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from the far reaching corners of
the police state we called Gitmo

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nation. It's time for your
weekly quest to ask not what you

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can do for your country but what
your government is doing to you.

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from Gitmo nation West in
southwest London in the curry

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terrace. I'm Adam curry,

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and the West version. I'm John
C. Dvorak here in Silicon Valley

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north. I think that's your new
catchphrase. You're gonna use

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that from now on. I've got

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to I've got the I like the Ask
not what your government is

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doing a NASA not what you can do
for your country, what your

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government is doing for you and
I have a new one, which is not

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not an original, but I love it.
Capitalism without bankruptcy is

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like religion without hell.

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No, that's a good one. No, it's
got to do with the show. But not

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that. That's why I didn't use
it. But it's a new catchphrase.

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That's for sure.

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Hey, John, how are ya?

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Good. It's been raining.

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No, really? Well, you deserve
some out there.

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I guess. Well, yeah. I suppose
it's probably true. We needed it

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actually, as if it was going to
be long. Hot January. I mean, it

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was like 75 for about 10 days in
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It's been cold here, dude. It's
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all over the map we had all of a
sudden we had a day when we had

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or like two days of 10 to 12
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back down. It's really chilly.
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New York has similar weather.
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watching the news on WPI XO
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isn't a channel 11 WpX Yeah, I
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We lived in New York. It's one
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an independent station? Or is it

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you know, no, how they stay
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Independent Television is a
ghost show going down the tubes

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here in the in the United
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and two and there's also three
but the main ones are one and

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two. And then we have Channel
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interesting business model. It's
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they have commercials. It's
crazy. And and they are losing

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100 million pounds a year.

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And so it's just stop the
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And so now there's kind of like
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have one other real full blown
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terrestrial broadcast or channel
five, or five, as they call it,

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which is owned by RTL. And so
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go let's Tim's

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that's it. I thought Thames
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production. I know. I don't
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What's ITN? Well,

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we have ITV. Okay, what's,

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what's sky?

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Well sky is is is dish, I'm
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broadcast. And so they've been
talking about merging the

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commercial channel five with the
half assed half commercial half

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state run channel four. But I
think what's going to happen is

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they're going to be assimilated
by the BBC, BBC Worldwide. It's

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crazy manage. Everyone's just
doing whatever they can.

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What's BBC Three?

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That's also that's a that's a
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what did they do, though?
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have the most interesting
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kind of the alternative channel
that's where you'll find things

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like the Mighty Boosh and real
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That's about it. They don't have
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schedule, they go off the air,
and they don't come on until six

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or seven in the evening.

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So I don't know if it's the six
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Yes. Yeah, they have no daytime
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And he has it, but it's great.
You know, we're getting all

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these new digital channels.
Yeah, I don't know what we're

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gonna fill them with. But
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American crap.

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Well, channel four is already
filled with, you know, that's

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the station that does the Big
Brother shows and I'm a

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Celebrity Get Me Out of Here and
all that. And they still lose

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100 million pounds here. How do
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I don't think the market is big
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channels. They're not the maybe
people don't listen, to watch

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the TV. You have to pay you have
to have a licence. You know, I

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think I guess some of our
listeners know this and all the

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British do. But you actually
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TV. It's like owning a gun.

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Sainsbury's supermarket and buy
a television or a radio, you

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immediately have to fill out all
of your details. And they have

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commercials running about this
too, which I'll tell you in a

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second, but you fill out all
your details. And you have to

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pay I believe it's 157 pounds a
year. It's less if you only have

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a radio and you don't have a
television and what they they

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run these commercials all the
time, which are really scary.

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Like, don't think you can get
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licence because it's in the data
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Seriously, it's in the database,
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cannot get away from it.

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You have to pay for every team.
Well, if you have two TVs, you

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have to pay twice as much. Now

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you only have to pay for for one
just if you have a TV and then

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you can have as many as you want
in, in the house, TV and radio.

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they still do this where they
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these giant kind of dish dishes
on the top that can aim at your

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house and tell if you have a
television. Yeah. Oh,

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yeah, they have they have those.
That's what they Well, I think

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they used to use those now it's
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get away from it.

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But how is it going to be in the
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know, if you got it, let's say I
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somehow that I had a licence up
in northern England and then I

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come down and I just cancelled
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moved well, I've had the benefit
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you have to go online and
transfer your licence to a new

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address. But already you know
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getting a mail at the new
address saying you have to have

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a licence you know we'll come
and check you know all this kind

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of semi threatening language so
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just will go by any house and
knock on the door and say do you

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have a television if you don't
if you don't have a licence for

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the sawed off

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yeah, dude you know that repo
guys even have the have the

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right now to break and enter
into your house and take away

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your any shit they do. They call
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basically the repo man. They're
allowed to break and enter and

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take away your shit. So I'm sure
that you can try the sawed off

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wall won't fly.

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Can you just have a TV? And
there's a look at but yeah, but

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it's not on? I don't use?

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you know, it's onerous. But at
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it's just a tax.

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Well, yeah, but it's a voluntary
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have a television. The thing
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a separate bill, which I like,
but what's lame is that people

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don't utilise and there's
there's no real recourse, you

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know, you should be able to say,
hey, you know what, it's not the

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value for money, fuck you, I'm
not going to pay it. Or, you

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know, or people should should
organise and say, Let's just

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stop paying the BBC. But they
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something out. John, it's hit
me. 12 years ago, we had a very

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similar situation in the
network. There was a similar

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situation the United Kingdom as
to the United States is going

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through right now we had this
fresh young guy come in, and he

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was gonna save everything and
New Labour and it's gonna be

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fantastic. And yeah, you know,
sure. He's gonna hang a couple

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cameras up, but it's all for our
protection and the place has

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become a complete police state.
And people have no way out of

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it. You can't protest legally,
there's all kinds of stuff. And

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and that's what well, you can
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United States in the next at
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It'll get started.

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Well, apparently Obama's already
like, snapped at the reporters

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who asked him a question when it
wasn't allowed to yell. Dude,

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I've been watching the live
coverage. C span is my new

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favourite channel used to be
CNBC. Now it's C span. And I saw

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the first press conference with
the new press. What is this

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press secretary, I guess, Robert
Gibbs, oh, man, the press are

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going to eat this guy a lot. I
hope they're going to eat this

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guy alive. Because you know, all
of this freedom, the first the

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first press conference, he
didn't have it under control. He

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really didn't. And you can see
him searching and trying because

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he has to be very careful,
right? He's got to he's all

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every word, he says has to be
chosen so carefully and he's

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letting people ask three follow
up questions. And you know that

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he just digs himself into a
hole. And this whole Freedom of

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Information Act, which is not a
an executive order, but it's a

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memorandum that that Obama put
into place. Like oh, yeah, we're

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gonna honour the Freedom of
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everyone's drilling down to what
does that mean? You know, can we

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really get answers and I if the
precedent is any good, which is

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questionable, which is
questionable, but you know, also

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they're refusing to to allow
pictures that haven't been taken

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by the White House staff
photographer, and there's

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background information and the
press is not allowed to release

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the names of the people who are
telling it we're giving the

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background information to
reporters it's already secrecy

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is started transparency my ass.

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Well, the thing is Obama's kind
of a newbie, lightweight it can

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almost an amateur he doesn't
know how to deal with

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depression, depressed except
during this During that period

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where they were all on his side,
yeah, exactly. And now it's

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like, oh, hi, I thought you guys
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Well, he did his first his
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president typically does a radio
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YouTube address. God, man, it's,
it's sad. So not only is he

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reading, which people are gonna
catch on to this, I hope one

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event and say, you know, the
guy's just reading but he's,

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they don't have a teleprompter
on these, at least not yet on

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this weekly thing. So he's
looking to the left of the

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camera. And you know, they're
even cutting it because he

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clearly fucked up and you know,
it's like, Oh, whoops,

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let's just do a little zoom cut
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This is addressed to the to the,
to the national address, and

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he's, he's not looking into the
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No, he's looking off to the
side, go to whitehouse.gov. You

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can see it, he's looking off to
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side. What's he looking at? He's
supposed to be looking at the

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public. Oh, he's looking at a
cue card. Well, obviously he's

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gonna have to learn how to read
off of a sheet of paper in front

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of him. How

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about saying some words that
actually come from his heart and

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he's sincere about it's just an
idea.

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Or a concept, you know, just
just a bulb? You know, just just

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a thought, you know, once you
sit there and just say what you

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actually think do Yeah,

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we're gonna get no to all you
guys are bashing Obama. Yes, I

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am. That's correct. Absolutely.
Hey, by the way, I,

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you know, question on my mind is
which Obama? Are we talking

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about? Are we talking about the
first president they swore in or

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the second Obama that they swore
and secretly, I was a different

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guy,

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you know, different guy. Oh, I
hadn't heard that one yet.

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That's good. John, is a
different guy.

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How do you figure he's a
different guy? Why would you

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have to swear him in a second
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when when I saw the inauguration
and I and the first first I

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think I sent you a text message,
I'm laughing my ass. I'm like,

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the one time the guy has to do
something without a prompter. He

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had to memorise eight lines. He
messed it up. And because he

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messed it up it because he
messed it up because he didn't

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know he couldn't repeat the
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then Justice Roberts, then then
he that he got that he totally

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fell apart. And, and I was like,
Oh, my God. And I was like, No,

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that's definitely gonna hound
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this, this is what's bugging a
lot of people is then he got

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sworn in again. There were no
video crews, only a staff

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photographer, and no Bible. I
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significance there. But he was
he did not have his hand on a

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Bible.

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Well, my guess is that they he
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thing. Yeah. They took the Bible
back after he did the thing,

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because it's a valuable document
that's owned by one of the

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museum's or some board. Yeah,
they couldn't get it out

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Congress. I don't know who has
the thing. But anyway, they

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obviously he's not taking it
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disappeared. So they had to go
do this again, because Robert

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was freaked out that it would
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he'd be embarrassed. So they
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have just brought into the
second Obama, and then sworn him

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in and he's actually going to be
the president second Obama.

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Wonder how many Obama doubles we
got in here?

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It's like a young king, young
Kim Young ill. It's like, a

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whole slew of them. The real
Obama was That's a good one,

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John.

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Thank you. I like that. But I
was looking at the first Obama

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being sworn in that Lincoln
Bible doesn't look like it was

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used very much. Did you notice
that? If you're a novice

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seriously, it looked like

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it was new. Yeah,

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it did. If you look at that, not
not the the binding, but the

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pages itself. look completely
fresh cotton certainly didn't

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look over 150 years old.

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Well, obviously what has
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there's a story to be told about
the Bible. Lincoln swore in on

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that Bible. And then they made
it immediately made a

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collectible. Put it aside. It
hasn't been found that has been

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used.

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Yeah. What is the significance
of the swearing in on the Bible?

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Is that Is that necessary? Has
there ever been a president who

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has not been sworn in on the
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I think they've all been sworn
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it's necessary doesn't make I
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no mention the constitution of
being sworn in on a Bible. They

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just had to make the oath.
Right. I was reminded of these

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people who that was in a couple
of I used to, when I used to

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work for the government. We used
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these juries together, and
there'd always be some, usually

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some foppish weirdo, that would
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jury that you said, Would you
like to be they said I'd rather

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be affirmed. And so there's one
guy we always knew is going to

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be troubled to. This was his
character. We were it was an air

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pollution case against some
somebody. And it was like this

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guy, one guy. He was a music
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singer and he when he came in,
he was a skinny guy. He was like

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one of the petite male as my
wife likes to describe him. came

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into the courtroom wearing these
kind of Bermuda shorts. And a

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suit and tie girl jacket and
tie. So you have to imagine

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jacket and tie, router shorts,
socks and regular shoes, and

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very thin. And he comes in. And
then when he was asked what he

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does, he goes, I'm a singer. So
we're going, Oh God, this guy's

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gonna be a problem. So anyway,
but so and so when it came to

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being sworn in this guy had
couldn't be sworn in, he had to

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be affirmed. Because you have to
be sworn in or affirmed. And he

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had to interrupt everything. So
this guy can guess you be the

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one guy being affirmed?

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Is it just me or was the oath
for the vice president twice as

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long as the oath for the
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I didn't see it at all. You
didn't watch the inauguration?

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I only watch the speech, which
was written by a 27 year old

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punk in a Starbucks.

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You know, I don't know whether
they I think they guys must have

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run out of material that speech
writer he had his his 27 year

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old guy, kid. Yeah. Who gave
Obama some of his best speeches.

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I think Obama wrote that thing.
I think

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there was a whole article he
said that he wrote it, but that

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Obama gave him kind of the
direction and, and then he I

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think he's lost it then. Yeah,
well, what I didn't what I took

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huge offence to was the line
that said basically, it's all

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our fault. It's everybody's
fault. I'm like, no, no, it's

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not our fault. The you know, the
state of the economy.

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Yeah, I agree. Like everybody's
fault. We don't use credit cards

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we've been very responsible. I
have a small

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to medium business you know, we
don't go to the government for

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handouts we we work

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on been abusing anything I wish
I would have. Well, you know, in

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hindsight, you know, we got
screwed

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you just wait until they start
reducing people's principal on

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their mortgages. That's when the
shit will hit the fan. I do want

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to I do want to I want you to
take a look at a link for a

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second here because this will
freak you out. on that. I'm

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going to Skype it to you this is
from CNN. Hold on where's my

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Where's Skype? Here we go.

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So the while you're doing that
so I guess the big news in

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England from our perspective is
a woman over there letting her

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three year old smoke

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Yeah, I've seen the story but
it's not dominating the news at

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all. But take a look at this
link. John this video and eight

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seconds into it I want you to
see the UFO that flies from

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right to the blog this is really
your blog it is that looks like

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an actual UFO. It looks like a
scratch

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on the camera lens.

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When I freeze frame this thing
man it's not a scratch it's a

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flying object that goes right in
front halfway down the What the

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What do you call the

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Washington

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Washington Monument sorry on the
on the camera side and it flies

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right by and I don't know man,
but that look at that it was

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some incredibly fast stealth
military aircraft. It was not a

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bird. I don't think it was not

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a bird but I think it was an
anomaly Well, I don't know I

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mean, how come nobody

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saw it? Well, they made this
video and where's the other

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videos of it? And it's only a
spot now like it has legs or

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anything

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it's like a fast flying disc. So
hold on we got our jingles John

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they finally came in

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jingles I'm not hearing any
jingles

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Hold on a play the other could

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be at this defining moment.
Change has come through America.

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A government of the people by
the people and for the people

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has not perish from the earth.
This is your mystery. We are and

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always will be yeah I've

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already heard this. Yeah, yeah,
they're floating around all over

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the place. Well, I have loved
this

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welcome to Obama FM everybody
I'm at the sea here in London

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town and we got JC D over there
in California yay Johnny Boy

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Bama town Yeah, I know they got
these guys we gotta back off.

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These you know these freelancers
that are doing this stuff. It's

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gonna be embarrassing
eventually.

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Well, I've been showing as many
of those crazy clips as possible

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on me vo daily of those of the
celebrity pledges.

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I pledge I pledge at 100 Like
these guys who like to see me

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feel even turn off their lights
those clowns. I mean, you're

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talking about multimillionaires,
like Ashton Kutcher and his

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wife. Yeah. You know, and
they're gonna they're gonna do

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this and that they're not going
to do anything. Well, no,

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they would pledge like to
conserve on use of plastic by

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drinking less water

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will less work play which by the
way he's got a con. I was we

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just went to the gourmet food
show that was in San Francisco,

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the Fancy Food Show. And I'm
sure that the people who this

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is, this year, there's a number
of themes that people can expect

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to see one thing the salt thing
has fallen off the face of the

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earth. That's not happening as
much as it was. They tried.

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They tried that right. It just
didn't really catch, did it? It

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had a peak, it had a peak,

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it's gone. There wasn't any salt
vendors. But there was like

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tonnes and tonnes and tonnes and
tonnes and tonnes and tonnes of

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chocolate. I mean, it's like
everybody who can heat a pot is

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making chocolate so it was that
was a little annoying cocoa.

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It's funny you say that because
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exploded. I was just reading
that today

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to find it. And you'll wonder
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Well, so that's the question. Is
it because everyone wants it?

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Because they're using it?

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Because all these chocolate
companies my wife, excuse it as

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well you know when you have
financial when you have a

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financial downturn, people need
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A lot of choco prices at

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24 year high above 2000 pounds
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There you go. That's pretty
easy. It was obvious to me that

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the rationale for that is this
show indicate as a trend I mean

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the show indicates trends I go
to there and look at trends and

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this trend was chocolate. So
everybody in Nvidia has all

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these different chocolate
companies and they're just you

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know, yeah sounds good. So image
how much chocolate Can you can

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you stomach there's tea
flavoured chocolate was there's

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one company to specialise in
flavour weird flavoured

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chocolates you know hot chilies
you know green tea, you know

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things in the chocolate and you
need to chocolate, you know, and

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tea was the other thing that was
hot, which has been a trend for

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a number of years but

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but laboured teas right not not
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fashioned

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flavoured tea sparkling tea
there's some company called

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White Star making a spark by the
way which is tasty but way too

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expensive. And there's just a
lot of different kinds of tea

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tea flavour distante flavour
that and a lot but anyway so

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there's a lot but didn't again
one of the biggest thing is

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flavoured waters in these
plastic bottles, which is one of

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the other big trends and there's
all kinds of you know, just one

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company after another with I
think like one of them called

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hint there's the name of the
water company and the end the

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thing is is regular water but
it's got some it's got like a

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drop of some weird flavour in it
and you have another once you

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get a hint of mint you know kind
of thing so anyway but but I'm

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watching that video that you
were talking about which was on

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the blog and we could probably
we set it yeah and and they go

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on and on about the you know not
using these plastic bottles and

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meanwhile there's one company
came out and the name of the

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water is called a help and it's
like it they donate almost all

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their profits to charities. And
so they're obviously you know,

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they're just like there's the
conflict for the for the for

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people out there's like we just
see somebody shorting out trying

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to decide where they can buy
this water since it's in a

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plastic bottle anyway show

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but that was it there was a
chocolate is the trend and salt

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and water chocolate tea, water
and salt well the other trends

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that I was pointed out to me by
the PR woman was the there's a

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downsizing of of like chocolate
bars they have these big giant

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bars and now they're going to
make smaller ones bars. Yeah.

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And and kids

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How about peanut butter that
must have been really popular at

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the show

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there's never been a there's
never really been salmonella in

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a Can everybody you're but the
other thing was they have these

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kids like Water for Kids T for
kids. They're trying to

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introduce T to kids and but
they're just gonna be

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decaffeinated they say well no,
I don't think it makes any

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difference. So they're trying to
make kit get kids children in

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hooked onto Yeah,

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well you know, in the UK they're
just they're a little easier

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just teach your kid to smoke
sounds like a bogus story by the

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way. That's not that's just it's
just a bogus not I'm not really

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not really buying it.

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We liked the story we blogged
it.

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Well of course. Big story which
only got as far as I can tell

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only got press on CNBC Who broke
it about John Thain is attain or

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thing. The Merrill Lynch CEO
just got kicked out. You know, I

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don't never heard his name
pronounced.

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I think those were saying tain
So, only a few days after

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Merrill Lynch received their
first billions in bailout money,

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he redecorated his office. All
right, for $1.2 million

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including a $32,000 toilet

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00:25:15,509 --> 00:25:19,499
yeah but the killer these guys
thinking well the kicker is that

447
00:25:20,369 --> 00:25:23,189
the what are these guys brought
down the economy these guys are

448
00:25:23,219 --> 00:25:24,449
idiots course.

449
00:25:24,510 --> 00:25:27,690
And but that was with our money
which is kind of upsetting but

450
00:25:27,690 --> 00:25:32,790
the kicker of the story is that
the designer, the interior

451
00:25:32,790 --> 00:25:37,980
decorator, who did this is the
same guy who just redecorated

452
00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:46,260
for the Obamas in the White
House. Huh? Who is this guy? Oh,

453
00:25:46,260 --> 00:25:52,110
let me look up his name. By the
way. Let me see, Papa bah.

454
00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:58,260
I wonder what the why. What?
Nothing. Go ahead said now.

455
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,990
Now you've got me intrigued.

456
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,620
I'm just wondering what the what
what calls are going to make in

457
00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:07,110
the White House to to
personalise it for Michelle's

458
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:07,740
taste.

459
00:26:07,770 --> 00:26:11,280
Michael S. Smith, known amongst
society's higher echelon for his

460
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,280
makeover of Bel Air estates in
Malibu beach houses and the

461
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,130
client list that includes Dustin
Hoffman and Rupert Murdoch was

462
00:26:17,130 --> 00:26:20,460
chosen just last week to
redesign the Obama's private

463
00:26:20,460 --> 00:26:23,640
quarters at the White House. The
Obamas got a deal 100 grand

464
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:32,070
versus the 800 Grand paid by Mr.
Taine. Van did well, is it gonna

465
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:33,780
be 15,000? Oh, why?

466
00:26:33,810 --> 00:26:37,140
Why are they paying 100 grand of
the taxpayers money here. I just

467
00:26:37,140 --> 00:26:39,480
want to just first gets an
office and we're trying to cut

468
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,020
back on this sort of thing.
Can't they just make do and you

469
00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:44,490
know, maybe spend the money
later.

470
00:26:44,790 --> 00:26:47,550
It's part of the perks that you
know, they they're comparing

471
00:26:47,550 --> 00:26:52,290
Obama to FDR, but you know, FDR,
when he was inaugurated, he had

472
00:26:52,290 --> 00:26:56,940
a plate of cold chicken you
know, to be for solidarity and

473
00:26:56,940 --> 00:26:59,880
the Obamas I think they had a
really nice you know, five

474
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,950
course meal at the at Blair
House. You know, it's but of

475
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:06,330
course that was the other Obama

476
00:27:07,260 --> 00:27:09,150
Yeah, you don't know which Obama
is anymore.

477
00:27:11,730 --> 00:27:16,590
And doubles and Asha schleps
here around the world, certainly

478
00:27:16,590 --> 00:27:20,160
in Europe can be happy to know
that McDonald's is expanding

479
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,080
with 240 new restaurants 12,000
new jobs. They're totally in the

480
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,620
Lift

481
00:27:26,910 --> 00:27:29,550
Yeah, well, they would be in
during these kinds of economic

482
00:27:29,550 --> 00:27:33,630
times when people need to eat
one buck hamburgers Yeah. For

483
00:27:33,630 --> 00:27:43,980
dinner it's sad Yeah, FDR was
pretty good at staying on the

484
00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:48,450
course. Was he truly what are we
talking about? I was watching

485
00:27:48,450 --> 00:27:50,160
listen to some the other day and
they're talking about why I

486
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,360
think this would be just before
he got inaugurated or ninth

487
00:27:54,360 --> 00:28:01,050
grade before he got sworn in the
above Obama deserving already

488
00:28:01,290 --> 00:28:04,410
without spending one minute in
office already should be on

489
00:28:04,410 --> 00:28:05,310
Mount Rushmore.

490
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,200
Does that mean we have to retool
someone and we just make a new

491
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,190
head? How does that

492
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,070
retaining Roosevelt cool him
right? Cuz he's got the big fat

493
00:28:17,070 --> 00:28:19,290
head and he could be pounded
down to Obama.

494
00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:24,960
Uncle Fester just twittered. The
Lincoln Bible was procured new,

495
00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:29,730
I guess from new and says for
Abe's inauguration his family by

496
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,180
dipo was unavailable. It was
archived and not used again

497
00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:36,330
until the 20th of January 2009.
So that's our answer you

498
00:28:36,330 --> 00:28:40,380
go Yeah, you're right we got
people out there helping highly

499
00:28:40,650 --> 00:28:45,390
resource the public so resource
certainly. Especially when we

500
00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:46,470
have no material

501
00:28:46,890 --> 00:28:48,390
well, I got plenty of material.

502
00:28:48,690 --> 00:28:51,900
I'm okay. Well, what was

503
00:28:53,670 --> 00:28:56,520
That's it was done. It was great
talking to you, John. 28 minutes

504
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,810
shorter show we've ever done.

505
00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:01,740
Well, it seems like there's so
much but you know, everything

506
00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:02,850
would come down to

507
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:06,810
well, we just can't sit here
bitching about Obama. Exactly.

508
00:29:06,810 --> 00:29:10,170
That's that's the problem. I
will say this one thing she gets

509
00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:12,150
an office the next thing you
know, two missiles go into

510
00:29:12,150 --> 00:29:13,320
Pakistan. Yeah. And

511
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,160
kill 13 people. Yeah, no, that's
well, but but the whole thing is

512
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,330
complacency on the on the part
of the press. I mean, right now,

513
00:29:21,330 --> 00:29:24,480
if you go on the street and you
say to the American public, what

514
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,750
is Obama Donald so he closed
Gitmo? We're no longer torturing

515
00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:32,640
you know, please please I urge
you go read the please go read

516
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,840
it because that's not true. You
know, he's he's put out a task

517
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,950
force which is in all business.
I hate task force because

518
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:43,980
nothing ever comes to them. It's
like a steering committee. Let's

519
00:29:43,980 --> 00:29:46,380
all grab the steering wheel and
drive off the road.

520
00:29:47,130 --> 00:29:49,470
Well, this reminds me of when
Ronald Reagan first ran for

521
00:29:49,470 --> 00:29:51,690
president. This was during our
president for Governor of the

522
00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:55,920
State of California. I'll never
forget this. He was us a big

523
00:29:56,010 --> 00:29:58,710
Sabre rattler in in the same
time he had a lot you know, he

524
00:29:58,710 --> 00:30:02,220
was used to be a union Oregon.
nizer and a hard, you know,

525
00:30:02,250 --> 00:30:05,250
Franklin Roosevelt Democrat. So
you know, you can never quite

526
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,460
eliminate some of these aspects
of people's personalities if

527
00:30:08,460 --> 00:30:12,030
you've been on both sides of the
political spectrum. And so I

528
00:30:12,030 --> 00:30:15,270
always thought a lot of stuff
was bluster. And so I remember I

529
00:30:15,540 --> 00:30:18,870
distinctly remember him coming
in to California and then in

530
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:21,690
threatening all his students
were rioting all over the place.

531
00:30:21,690 --> 00:30:25,860
And he's, I'm going to put a Blu
Ray, remember this blue ribbon

532
00:30:25,860 --> 00:30:30,570
committee, headed by John
mckown, who I guess is some CIA

533
00:30:30,570 --> 00:30:33,660
guy at the time. And he kept
talking about this blue ribbon

534
00:30:33,660 --> 00:30:37,290
committee headed by John McCone
to investigate this, you know,

535
00:30:37,290 --> 00:30:41,280
student unrest. He got elected
and that was the end of it. I

536
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:41,760
was never

537
00:30:41,970 --> 00:30:44,490
there was no blue ribbon
committee. Right. John McMullen.

538
00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:44,580
I

539
00:30:44,580 --> 00:30:45,900
don't think ever showed up.

540
00:30:49,770 --> 00:30:55,200
I would like to revisit flight
1549, which I am, oh, yeah,

541
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,730
caught up last week. And because
I showed that

542
00:30:59,730 --> 00:31:02,610
remember to like the first part
of the week before they pulled

543
00:31:02,610 --> 00:31:06,870
up the the engine, they showed a
piece of metal with a hole in it

544
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:08,700
on one of the news shows

545
00:31:08,790 --> 00:31:13,230
and said, Look, there's a
feather stuck on it. That's the

546
00:31:13,230 --> 00:31:17,880
report that we found a feather
bird strike totally clear. But

547
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,970
I'm sure you know that this
exact aircraft had engine

548
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,840
problems in flight two days
before this. Right. Everybody

549
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:31,890
reported that? Okay. And I have
to just say again, why is there

550
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:35,310
no audio available of the so
called distress call this whole

551
00:31:35,310 --> 00:31:38,280
conversation you had which is
just it's not there? It doesn't

552
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:42,300
it does not exist? There is no
recording of him of the of the

553
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:47,100
pilot saying we had a double
bird strike. We're in trouble.

554
00:31:47,130 --> 00:31:50,790
There's none of it. It's just
not there. So I'm not saying

555
00:31:50,790 --> 00:31:55,380
it's a government conspiracy,
but it's just it stinks. It

556
00:31:55,380 --> 00:31:59,640
absolutely stinks. And, of
course, the Sullenberger the

557
00:31:59,730 --> 00:32:03,390
captain was at the inauguration,
the press asked him question he

558
00:32:03,390 --> 00:32:05,610
said, No, I can't say anything.
I'm not allowed to say anything.

559
00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:06,690
And I won't say anything.

560
00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:11,700
Well, he's going to be
interviewed on 60 minutes on

561
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:12,810
Sunday. Oh, okay. So

562
00:32:12,810 --> 00:32:16,380
here comes the spin. There you
go. So they set him up they've

563
00:32:16,380 --> 00:32:19,320
put they've put the chip in me
knows what to say. Now. I just

564
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,330
I'm just not buying this bird
strike. You know?

565
00:32:21,930 --> 00:32:24,960
What do you think it is? I mean,
it's F two just to intimidate

566
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,310
those bankers that are on board.

567
00:32:26,340 --> 00:32:27,960
Well, that's uh, that

568
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:31,410
would be a very deep conspiracy
but there's a number of reasons

569
00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:36,570
why people would not want to
have the thought that someone

570
00:32:36,570 --> 00:32:39,900
else was responsible for a plane
crashing anywhere near New York

571
00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:43,650
you know that I'm sure that if
that if that was the story that

572
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,650
that could have blown up the
markets it could have done a

573
00:32:46,650 --> 00:32:51,180
whole bunch of things. So I can
see where they'd want to spin

574
00:32:51,180 --> 00:32:54,930
that yeah, of course. Please
particularly with with bankers

575
00:32:54,930 --> 00:32:55,470
on board

576
00:32:58,260 --> 00:33:01,260
whatever I don't know they don't
come out in the yo yo probably

577
00:33:01,260 --> 00:33:05,850
in about 50 years when they
released the files another one

578
00:33:05,850 --> 00:33:08,310
you know still there's still
that TWA Flight you know that

579
00:33:08,790 --> 00:33:10,260
that was hit by a missile

580
00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:14,670
I mean, that's an I'm the
conspiracy theorists job.

581
00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:17,100
Well, you know that that's
actually more of an interesting

582
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:20,100
story not because there was a
missile that hit it it's because

583
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:23,100
of the number of people that
have come forward that were that

584
00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:26,190
that volunteered to testify to
the FBI or whoever was

585
00:33:26,190 --> 00:33:31,050
investigating the the accident
to say what they'd seen and they

586
00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:33,360
would never call back nobody
cared about they had to hold

587
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,640
their minds were made up from
the get go and that was the end

588
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,280
it was a tank that heated up and
blew up I mean, never happened

589
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,130
before they ever happened since
but you know, it was obviously

590
00:33:41,130 --> 00:33:42,480
it was a problem with the plane.

591
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:46,440
Right? You mean kind of like
buildings collapsing and

592
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,890
freefall from jet fuel that
never happened before

593
00:33:49,950 --> 00:33:54,840
into a perfect mess? Well,
whatever that one I'm not you

594
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,400
know, who knows I mean, that one
they just head shaker but

595
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,490
whatever the case, whatever the
case is, there's the we just

596
00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:05,400
don't get good information and
nobody does any follow ups. And

597
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,860
you know, as soon as somebody
comes up with you know,

598
00:34:07,860 --> 00:34:10,740
something, I mean, they've they
tried to find someone to

599
00:34:10,740 --> 00:34:15,270
ridicule, like, during that that
was that fi thing. 700 Whatever

600
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:19,170
that TWA Flight was 700 Now what
was that remember? Yeah, I think

601
00:34:19,170 --> 00:34:23,670
so. Yeah. And and I remember the
what's his name did Pierre

602
00:34:23,670 --> 00:34:28,080
Salinger Pierre Salinger
apparently came out you know,

603
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,400
they don't nobody needs this. So
they piercing was 800 by the

604
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,690
way, I'll fight 800 Right. Okay,
whatever. So Pierre Salinger

605
00:34:36,690 --> 00:34:38,940
comes on, he says, you know, it
was struck by a missile and

606
00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:40,920
there was pictures and there's
this and there's that of course,

607
00:34:41,010 --> 00:34:46,830
he got it all from some
crackpots website. And so they,

608
00:34:47,130 --> 00:34:49,800
you know, he comes forward and
they get he gets a bunch it gets

609
00:34:49,830 --> 00:34:52,350
a head of steam with people
getting interested in it, and

610
00:34:52,350 --> 00:34:58,050
then they, they just go after
him and with such a vengeance.

611
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,890
He was like they humiliate Hit
him to death. He's an idiot for

612
00:35:01,890 --> 00:35:05,160
reading, you know, these kinds
of websites and they didn't have

613
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:11,340
the facts. And I never seen a
guy hounded to oblivion as much

614
00:35:11,340 --> 00:35:14,070
as they did because he was the
highest profile guy came on set

615
00:35:14,070 --> 00:35:14,430
and

616
00:35:14,430 --> 00:35:16,710
who is he? Because I've never
heard his name before he was the

617
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:18,300
press secretary for John

618
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:22,170
Kennedy. Ah, okay. Okay. He's a
pretty famous guy. He was

619
00:35:22,170 --> 00:35:25,350
actually very interesting press
secretary while he was there,

620
00:35:25,830 --> 00:35:30,840
and Pierre Salinger. And so he
they just slammed the door on

621
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,000
him. And it was pretty
interesting to watch how they

622
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:38,820
can do that. Whoever they are.
Yeah.

623
00:35:40,890 --> 00:35:47,220
Well, the the real problem, of
course, is that there's the only

624
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,820
real investigative journalism
that was done, I guess, is

625
00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:54,510
really newspapers and the
newspapers are in so much

626
00:35:54,510 --> 00:35:58,500
trouble. Now they're now being
bought up by rich dudes

627
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:02,790
everywhere was the guy who just
put $200 million into the New

628
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:03,720
York Times.

629
00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:06,330
Yeah, who was that?

630
00:36:07,020 --> 00:36:10,020
I can find it there's also the
Evening Standard the the last

631
00:36:10,020 --> 00:36:13,140
for pay where they saw for $1
one no pound,

632
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,090
pound, oh, I should have

633
00:36:15,090 --> 00:36:16,380
done it for a Euro really

634
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,860
would have been more symbolic.

635
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:22,530
See, there was an article about
that today.

636
00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:26,280
So some Russian guy, right. Ex
KGB

637
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,290
actually, and he says he wants
to use it to expose Moscow,

638
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:34,050
which is a sure way to get
killed.

639
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,740
Yeah, that is a sure way to get
killed here. I got

640
00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:43,230
it here. Alexander Lebedev, the
nominal sum of one pound the

641
00:36:43,230 --> 00:36:46,860
Russian oligarch and former KGB
lieutenant colonel said he would

642
00:36:47,070 --> 00:36:50,430
pump 10s of millions of pounds
into the London Daily, which has

643
00:36:50,430 --> 00:36:53,430
struggled with falling
circulation and competition from

644
00:36:53,430 --> 00:37:01,290
free sheets. Mr. Lebedev also co
owns and Russian thing. I'm

645
00:37:01,290 --> 00:37:05,160
looking for the New York Times I
don't know where it is. But is

646
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:07,830
that yeah, it's like all the
isn't isn't. So what how does

647
00:37:07,830 --> 00:37:10,920
that work? I mean, rich dudes
just buy this up to promote

648
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,770
their own agenda, or do they
actually care? I mean, there's

649
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,310
there's this

650
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:16,680
isn't that the way newspapers
always have been? Or at least

651
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,020
has since the turn of the
century? I think.

652
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:22,680
I need to get me a column in a
newspaper here in the UK. I bet

653
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,220
you I could get one too. Um, but
you can get really easy. And

654
00:37:26,220 --> 00:37:31,110
just yeah, just crazy. Just do
my crazy shit, right? Yeah,

655
00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:31,410
that'll be

656
00:37:31,410 --> 00:37:34,410
good. But way off the deep end
like they do it. The reason they

657
00:37:34,410 --> 00:37:37,230
throw you off the station in
Holland. No, remember,

658
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,890
if you ever read Adam curry
death by suicide by cop suicide.

659
00:37:40,890 --> 00:37:47,700
It's not true. It's not true. I
found a copy of the wave.

660
00:37:48,270 --> 00:37:51,510
Hey, by the way before you go
there, let's stick with this for

661
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:53,880
a second. Sure. Because we were
talking about pure Salinger and

662
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,190
all the Kennedy boys that were
wiped out. Oh, you want to talk

663
00:37:56,190 --> 00:37:58,500
about Carolyn? I think it's
interesting. During the right

664
00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:01,590
during the inauguration, Ted
Kennedy has had a heart attack

665
00:38:01,590 --> 00:38:04,530
like you went into convulsions.
So they give him the you know,

666
00:38:04,530 --> 00:38:07,260
they gave him okay, Ted, this is
your special glass of wine.

667
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:13,290
Seven toast. That's horrible.
It's just it seems like they're

668
00:38:13,290 --> 00:38:16,230
trying to you know, they're I
mean, the Kennedys have been,

669
00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:20,040
you know, essentially two things
happen. One, Ted Kennedy has his

670
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,470
heart attack. And the other one
is Carolyn Kennedy was going to

671
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:25,380
who was a kind of a dingbat
anyway, but she seems, you know,

672
00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:27,480
well, meaning I've met her she's

673
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,750
not a dingbat. I met her. She's
quite nice, actually. She looks

674
00:38:30,750 --> 00:38:33,660
like she's nice. She has a
really pleasant quality about

675
00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:38,100
it's hard to describe. And she
up bales out on this thing for

676
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:40,710
some unknown reason. I won't say
why and nobody can figure it

677
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:46,590
out. It's not about Ted. I think
the Kennedys are, you know, I

678
00:38:46,590 --> 00:38:49,920
hate to know, I don't want to
sound like you kind of know, God

679
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,280
forbid,

680
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,490
that would ruin the show. It
would, but

681
00:38:53,490 --> 00:38:57,000
go ahead. But I remember once
when I was a student at the

682
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,250
University of California and
they and the Pacific Film

683
00:38:59,250 --> 00:39:01,620
Archives, it just opened up and
they were showing the weirdest

684
00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:05,640
movies. And there's just one
movie I couldn't actually sit

685
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,800
through the whole thing because
it was like it was such an eye

686
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,340
roller but now I'm now I regret
not having seen the whole thing

687
00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:15,750
or finding access to it to this
day. And it was a crazy crazy

688
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:18,300
movie about how all the
different presidents of the

689
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:22,530
United States represented heads
of various criminal

690
00:39:22,530 --> 00:39:27,690
organisations, specifically mob
organisations, and the Kennedys

691
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:30,990
in particular, were part of the
wasn't I don't know if it's

692
00:39:30,990 --> 00:39:34,470
Genova AC or Costello I don't
know which family it was but

693
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:38,700
they named the fan and said who
were on the outs because they

694
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:41,580
because it stemmed up from my
they went back to the history of

695
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:45,030
how you know, the family was a
bunch of rum runners. I mean,

696
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:45,870
they were they were in

697
00:39:46,530 --> 00:39:50,070
that's what Joe Kennedy made his
money right from fried noodle or

698
00:39:50,070 --> 00:39:52,380
running bootleg like booze.
Yeah.

699
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:56,520
And he was big. So he had to
have he had to be connected. And

700
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,300
so then so the apparently the so
the Kennedys had to be You know,

701
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:03,780
taken out of the picture
completely because they

702
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:06,690
remember the name of this film,
I wish.

703
00:40:08,490 --> 00:40:12,060
Because I'm sure you know this
kind of shit is. Of course I

704
00:40:12,060 --> 00:40:16,230
would. Carlos, Carlos Slim is
the guy who invested in the

705
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:17,640
times. Thank you fandom.

706
00:40:19,170 --> 00:40:25,350
So anyway, so the so I've always
in the back of my mind ever

707
00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:27,570
since the Kennedy started
getting you know, pushed aside,

708
00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:32,940
women let me connect those dots
were second. So essentially, the

709
00:40:32,940 --> 00:40:36,060
Kennedys had had to have to be
eliminated and they've done

710
00:40:36,060 --> 00:40:39,930
quite a reasonable job so far
looking at the family history.

711
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,610
And Carolyn Kennedy is ready
ready to ascend to the Senate,

712
00:40:44,610 --> 00:40:48,330
Steve seat, and they say, oh,
yeah, watch this. Here, Ted have

713
00:40:48,330 --> 00:40:52,410
a glass of wine. That's the way
I'd connect those dots. You just

714
00:40:52,410 --> 00:40:55,740
gave me baby. And then she's
like, Shit, I don't want to

715
00:40:55,740 --> 00:40:59,550
suicide by cop. I'm not gonna do
this. But who is this woman that

716
00:40:59,550 --> 00:41:01,860
they that and now has been
brought in.

717
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,690
She's interesting because she's
like, kind of a a Democrat or a

718
00:41:06,690 --> 00:41:10,410
Republican and Democrat
clothing. She's pretty much

719
00:41:10,410 --> 00:41:14,880
politically a, an old fashioned
Republican that has that is only

720
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:21,300
interested in conservative
monetary policies. She's an NRA

721
00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:25,380
member, you know, big time gun
user, which pisses off almost

722
00:41:25,410 --> 00:41:29,040
all the Democrats. I don't know
why they're so adamant about

723
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,200
this. And but she's, you know,
for gay marriage. She's kind of

724
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,390
like, you know, there are a lot
of Republicans that don't give a

725
00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:40,380
crap about gay marriage one way
or the other. And those are I

726
00:41:40,410 --> 00:41:43,200
still consider the more
mainstream old fashioned

727
00:41:43,230 --> 00:41:46,410
Republicans that wouldn't let
what happened during the Bush

728
00:41:46,410 --> 00:41:49,260
administration actually happened
you know, they don't think that

729
00:41:49,260 --> 00:41:54,240
the earth was made 6000 years
ago and that kind of thing like

730
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:57,660
these conservatives you know,
all believe or something, or too

731
00:41:57,660 --> 00:42:01,740
many of them believe that and
that's what she is and so she's

732
00:42:01,740 --> 00:42:06,060
kind of a little bit of a off
the wall and that you know, that

733
00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:09,480
guy I don't know why, why she
was chosen. She did use a lot of

734
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:15,000
Republicans or Democrats in the
state that are to the nth about

735
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:15,240
this.

736
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,850
No, no kid No kidding. Because
she's a Republican. That's the

737
00:42:17,850 --> 00:42:19,410
first thing that's interesting
about it.

738
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,810
Well, there was two things one,
she's a witch she's a Democrat

739
00:42:21,810 --> 00:42:25,350
and but she's a Republican in
her philosophies. And the worst

740
00:42:25,350 --> 00:42:30,540
part is she she won as a
Democrat in a highly Republican

741
00:42:30,570 --> 00:42:34,680
area in the middle of nowhere
new upstate New York. And and

742
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,660
that means they're not going to
be able to get another person in

743
00:42:36,660 --> 00:42:40,410
a short Republican will probably
end up with that seat. Because

744
00:42:40,410 --> 00:42:43,050
the Democrat, there's no
Democrat That has to hurt types

745
00:42:43,050 --> 00:42:44,490
of politics to win up there.

746
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,920
Well, so let's trace it back.
One more step back to the

747
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,610
Kennedys.

748
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:51,540
Wait, wait one more thing. What
about Andrew Cuomo that he was

749
00:42:51,540 --> 00:42:52,890
get that he was a shoo in?

750
00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:58,890
who also was related to the
Kennedys? Cuomo by marriage?

751
00:42:58,890 --> 00:43:01,740
Yeah, he wasn't he married to
someone from the Kennedy clan.

752
00:43:01,740 --> 00:43:07,530
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, me.
And of course, John John, Jr.

753
00:43:07,530 --> 00:43:14,040
was killed by biplane sabotage.
Right. No, seriously, John, that

754
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,600
was not a spatial disorientation
issue. The conditions were just

755
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,100
not not there for that. It's
just I I'm just not buying that

756
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:28,350
one. As an aviator, I'm not
buying it. Hold on Andrew Cuomo.

757
00:43:28,350 --> 00:43:31,980
I'm pretty sure he was married
to someone in the Kennedy clan.

758
00:43:33,690 --> 00:43:43,170
New. Carry can Kennedy Cuomo.
Really? Yes. But I think he's

759
00:43:43,170 --> 00:43:44,220
divorced, wasn't he?

760
00:43:44,610 --> 00:43:47,790
Kerry Kennedy, once you're in,
you're in. Alright.

761
00:43:48,149 --> 00:43:50,309
So this sounds like maybe
there's a lot more to it.

762
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:53,579
Particularly because Caroline
just won't say anything. That's,

763
00:43:54,449 --> 00:43:57,509
you know. That's kind of weird.

764
00:43:58,710 --> 00:44:01,470
Yeah, I just think the thing,
it's just an interesting thing

765
00:44:01,470 --> 00:44:04,560
to think about. You know, Ted's
gonna be out of the picture

766
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,390
shortly. Yeah. So all you got
now is Robert Kennedy, Jr. and a

767
00:44:09,390 --> 00:44:11,220
few of the other kids who are
lying low.

768
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:14,970
How about the kid? The raper,
the ex rapist or the

769
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,380
Yeah, I don't think he was part
of the real family. Me just a

770
00:44:19,380 --> 00:44:20,520
relative. So I'm sorry.

771
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:23,250
What was that was some didn't
someone get killed with a golf

772
00:44:23,250 --> 00:44:25,980
club? What was that a member
that? We don't remember that

773
00:44:25,980 --> 00:44:30,270
one? Yeah. That was maybe 10
years ago. There was something

774
00:44:30,270 --> 00:44:34,830
with someone got their head
beaten in. I thought that I

775
00:44:34,830 --> 00:44:36,480
thought that was a Kennedy kid
who was

776
00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:40,680
done. No, no, there was a lot of
Kennedy kids, that's for sure.

777
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,550
But how many of you were part of
the inner circle, as you know,

778
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:48,210
remains to be seen. But I think
that explains one of the reasons

779
00:44:48,210 --> 00:44:53,520
that Ted Kennedy is he had
become from the you know, he was

780
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,310
like the third brother who was
kind of or the fourth actually

781
00:44:56,310 --> 00:44:59,070
because the first brother was
killed off a meat you know

782
00:44:59,070 --> 00:45:03,150
during the war. And that which
was Joe Kennedy senior, he was

783
00:45:03,150 --> 00:45:05,940
the one who's supposed to be the
shoo in to be the politician.

784
00:45:06,570 --> 00:45:09,150
And so then John, and then you
so you have these four brothers,

785
00:45:09,630 --> 00:45:16,080
with only 10. Left. And Ted
became a, something of an

786
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,120
outrageous left wing, almost an
anti government style of

787
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:27,180
Democrat with, you know,
promoting old line socialist

788
00:45:27,180 --> 00:45:30,390
concepts. mean, he's basically a
socialist.

789
00:45:32,220 --> 00:45:35,670
Well, that's pretty much the
administration. We just voted

790
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:36,870
into office, isn't it?

791
00:45:37,290 --> 00:45:43,980
Where he was the from the
Kennedy? Kennedy did get when

792
00:45:43,980 --> 00:45:47,880
Kennedy took sides, he took
Obama side. Right?

793
00:45:49,710 --> 00:45:52,680
Instead of instead of Hillary
side,

794
00:45:53,070 --> 00:45:56,190
right, which, you know, which is
another thing because, you know,

795
00:45:56,190 --> 00:46:02,280
there's all this, you know, the
kind of mean spiritedness of the

796
00:46:02,310 --> 00:46:04,500
Clintons. And but and by the
way, that was a pretty good

797
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:07,320
move, they got Hillary out of
the picture by making her

798
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,490
secretary of state. And, you
know, there's one couple of guys

799
00:46:11,490 --> 00:46:13,890
are gonna argue about it. And I
think somebody went actually,

800
00:46:13,890 --> 00:46:17,100
look, Hillary's more dangerous
as a senator and she's ever

801
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:19,980
going to be a secretary of
state, get her out of there, put

802
00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:23,250
in somebody else, you know, this
Republican Woman who was a

803
00:46:23,250 --> 00:46:26,730
Democrat, and now she's not
going to be able to run for that

804
00:46:26,730 --> 00:46:30,960
office again. No, she's because
it's idiotic, and she's gonna

805
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,240
have a good retirement because
you get a good one if you're a

806
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:37,950
Secretary of State, and she can
go off float around the world

807
00:46:37,950 --> 00:46:40,410
had be a big shot, and that's
the end of her.

808
00:46:42,810 --> 00:46:47,850
So she's out of the picture.
Another memorandum from our new

809
00:46:47,850 --> 00:46:51,120
president, remember, I think
memorandum Does that have any

810
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,860
legal standing a memoranda? I

811
00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:56,040
don't know, maybe a lawyer can
and or did had to be a

812
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,900
constitutional lawyer? Probably
not.

813
00:46:58,380 --> 00:47:00,840
Because he's got a lot of
memorandums that he's passing

814
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,500
out and the press is of course,
reporting that as Oh, yeah. It's

815
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:09,960
all fixed. Basically turning
back a bush memorandum not

816
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:14,610
Bush, me. Yeah, this is the what
Yeah, I read the laundry list of

817
00:47:14,610 --> 00:47:19,080
these things. But most of those
were like, put in play by you

818
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,500
know, something was put in play
by Carter. Reagan reversed it.

819
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:28,290
Clinton reverse that. Bush
reverses back. And now he will

820
00:47:28,290 --> 00:47:31,860
Obama's got, basically we're
looking at Carter administration

821
00:47:31,890 --> 00:47:32,490
policy.

822
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,920
No kidding. Brzezinski? No
kidding. I can remember no

823
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,250
agenda, I think is like 16 or
17. And you're like, What? Are

824
00:47:41,250 --> 00:47:43,140
you talking about Brzezinski
Shut up.

825
00:47:44,430 --> 00:47:46,500
I ever said that. Oh, don't

826
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:51,810
make me go into the archives.
Don't make me go into the reason

827
00:47:51,810 --> 00:47:54,270
why I'm bringing it up is
because do you not find it

828
00:47:54,300 --> 00:47:59,700
strange? Because Because now the
anti abortion versus pro choice

829
00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:03,450
or pro life? I'd forget what the
politically correct term is. Now

830
00:48:03,450 --> 00:48:07,650
that's heating up again. Is it
Is there something weird about

831
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,070
people anti abortion is people
who are against abortion,

832
00:48:11,220 --> 00:48:13,230
throwing eggs at clinics?

833
00:48:14,610 --> 00:48:18,870
That doesn't sit right with me?
Maybe they're not fertilised,

834
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:22,020
but still, it's a weird thing to
do you know what I'm saying?

835
00:48:22,379 --> 00:48:24,809
They should be throwing shoes.
So

836
00:48:25,410 --> 00:48:27,090
I like the shoe thing. Well, you
know,

837
00:48:27,090 --> 00:48:33,120
that, that, that issue crops up
and it just, it just detracts

838
00:48:33,450 --> 00:48:37,950
from anything, you know, that
affects people's day to day

839
00:48:37,950 --> 00:48:40,560
lives. I mean, it doesn't make
any difference to me one way or

840
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,610
the other. But the fact that the
economy's in the tank does mean

841
00:48:44,610 --> 00:48:46,800
something to me daily. Yeah.

842
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:50,940
Yeah. But that's not what that's
not what people in, in the

843
00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:56,250
hypnotised States of America are
talking about. You know, you go

844
00:48:56,250 --> 00:48:58,380
on telling you go on the street
and you say what is the bomb?

845
00:48:58,380 --> 00:49:01,290
He's closed Gitmo, we're no
longer torturing. I'm just like

846
00:49:01,290 --> 00:49:03,990
that is that is exactly what the
press is reporting, but it's

847
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:09,600
just not factually true. And
it's sad. So please, tell a

848
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,080
friend to listen to this show.
Because we'll give you at least

849
00:49:13,650 --> 00:49:15,330
some fact.

850
00:49:17,370 --> 00:49:21,420
Some, some pieces of Yeah, lots
of opinion. In fact.

851
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:25,920
Thoughtful opinion though.
That's the difference.

852
00:49:25,950 --> 00:49:30,690
I posted a Google Video of the
wave on curry.com you familiar

853
00:49:30,690 --> 00:49:31,620
with this? The wave?

854
00:49:32,430 --> 00:49:35,760
Yeah. I don't know am I Yeah, it

855
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,840
was a book based upon a true
experiment that a

856
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,360
wave the wave Yeah, that a
hotshot as I call it? colour

857
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,380
scheme, a colour scheme on the
cover of the one of the books

858
00:49:49,380 --> 00:49:53,190
that is exactly the same as
Obama's that art artsy pickles

859
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:53,460
blue

860
00:49:53,460 --> 00:49:58,350
red with grey stuff out. And a
lot of people really responded

861
00:49:58,350 --> 00:50:00,330
very interestingly to that
because they know You can get

862
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,890
like an ABC after school movie.
It's horribly acted. It's really

863
00:50:04,890 --> 00:50:09,960
it's a piece of shit. But it is
the story. And I remember my mom

864
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,270
telling me this story I don't I
must have been seven I was

865
00:50:12,270 --> 00:50:14,670
in the Bay Area when that
happened. And remember that the

866
00:50:14,670 --> 00:50:17,070
reports in the news about it
Cubberley High was where it

867
00:50:17,070 --> 00:50:17,940
actually took place.

868
00:50:17,970 --> 00:50:20,910
Well, played back, let tell
people what it is because not

869
00:50:20,910 --> 00:50:21,660
everyone has failed. What

870
00:50:21,660 --> 00:50:24,930
it was is what some guy wanted
to wanted to teach the class

871
00:50:24,930 --> 00:50:29,820
about the about bigotry, and how
dictatorships can evolve and how

872
00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:33,540
things net will come naturally,
if encouraged, can naturally

873
00:50:33,540 --> 00:50:37,710
turn into sort of a fascist
environment. And so he set up a

874
00:50:37,710 --> 00:50:40,320
classroom experiment where
people had to, you know, there's

875
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,050
one group that was some one way
and another group would have to

876
00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:45,270
be there. That's actually
incorrect,

877
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,930
that that's what I thought the
story was, but it's not they

878
00:50:48,930 --> 00:50:53,100
were studying the Holocaust. And
the kids were like, Well, how

879
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:55,830
could you know, all these
millions of Germans not know

880
00:50:55,830 --> 00:51:00,060
that they were killing millions
of Jews? And you know, they just

881
00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:02,760
they just didn't believe it.
They didn't understand it. And

882
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,480
He then started very, very
simple. It wasn't two groups,

883
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,730
but he said, Okay, let's, let's
put this into practice. Why

884
00:51:11,730 --> 00:51:16,380
don't we do it start
understanding that by with

885
00:51:16,380 --> 00:51:22,050
commute, what he said was
community dedication, I have as

886
00:51:22,050 --> 00:51:24,750
a community dedication,
something else you know, that's

887
00:51:24,750 --> 00:51:27,120
how you get things done in the
head, a little salute, we kind

888
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,030
of like pound your chest and
hold your fist up. And everyone

889
00:51:30,030 --> 00:51:33,390
really got into it. And then it
just it just caught fire almost

890
00:51:33,390 --> 00:51:35,880
immediately. And the the
quietest kid in the class, of

891
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,850
course, wanted to be bodyguard
and essentially like an SS

892
00:51:38,850 --> 00:51:43,530
agent. And, and the wave it
spread, and they were doing

893
00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:46,950
meetings. And then at the
crescendo of this whole story is

894
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:50,010
he holds a meeting and he says,
All right, kids, as you know,

895
00:51:50,010 --> 00:51:53,340
there are groups all over the
country now who are a part of

896
00:51:53,340 --> 00:51:58,200
the wave and they all want a new
way of, of, of community and

897
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:03,750
being together with hope and
change. And, and then he shows

898
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:06,150
this big you said, Okay, here's
your leader, and then he flips

899
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:09,000
up a video of Hitler. And of
course, all the kids then

900
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,210
realise that, you know, they've
been sucked into fascism. And

901
00:52:12,210 --> 00:52:12,690
what I

902
00:52:12,690 --> 00:52:14,580
you know, I think that's a
dramatised version of what

903
00:52:14,580 --> 00:52:17,790
actually went on. But it was
something like that, possibly

904
00:52:17,790 --> 00:52:20,490
but but if people let you know,
that's probably something worth

905
00:52:20,490 --> 00:52:23,280
reading the guy by the way that
teachers still around he says,

906
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,810
he refuses to talk about it real
is it big? Yeah. He's just

907
00:52:27,810 --> 00:52:29,790
refuses to talk about it. He
just doesn't want to talk about

908
00:52:29,790 --> 00:52:32,460
it because I guess there was
some it was just frightening the

909
00:52:32,460 --> 00:52:35,970
way it unfolded. But you know,
if you want to read the a good

910
00:52:35,970 --> 00:52:38,820
piece of fiction that's about
this phenomenon, and I think

911
00:52:38,820 --> 00:52:43,680
it's, it's very believable is
Sinclair Lewis's classic. It

912
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:44,790
can't happen here.

913
00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:48,390
Yes. Someone's been you sent me
a copy. I think it's been it's

914
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:51,510
being distributed. People are
emailing this out on the net.

915
00:52:51,930 --> 00:52:54,330
Well, what's interesting about
Sinclair Lewis was he was a, you

916
00:52:54,330 --> 00:52:57,690
know, a Nobel Prize winning
Pulitzer Prize winning, you

917
00:52:57,690 --> 00:53:02,040
know, one of our greatest
writers, and adored by the by

918
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,930
the left to literati, and he did
this book it can happen here,

919
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:13,530
which was about, you know,
essentially a, how the left wing

920
00:53:13,530 --> 00:53:16,470
could take over in a fascist
way. And of course, then he was

921
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:19,380
on the outs ever since then same
thing happened to John Dos

922
00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:22,620
Passos, who would wrote some,
you know, essentially

923
00:53:22,650 --> 00:53:27,810
conservative perspective book
once. So anyway, the but a real

924
00:53:27,810 --> 00:53:30,510
life story if you want to read
which is a little harder to come

925
00:53:30,510 --> 00:53:34,920
by. It's called life and death
in Shanghai, which talks about

926
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,910
the Communist takeover of the
city and how people were just

927
00:53:38,910 --> 00:53:42,300
like you described, you know,
the weak little wimp that had no

928
00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:45,990
power somehow becomes the boss
right? And it turns into a

929
00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:50,520
despotic little jerk off and
it's a very interesting story.

930
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,880
So it actually it's much more
frightening than the way this

931
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,440
woman wrote this book killer but
it was banned in China. Life and

932
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,730
death in Shanghai extremely
popular in Hong Kong, just

933
00:54:02,730 --> 00:54:07,470
before the turnover made like in
the mid 90s Because everyone was

934
00:54:07,470 --> 00:54:09,690
reading this all freak you know,
there were freaked out in Hong

935
00:54:09,690 --> 00:54:12,660
Kong when they figured it out
the Chinese I mean, I was there

936
00:54:13,050 --> 00:54:15,210
a couple of times before the
turnover and everyone's just

937
00:54:15,210 --> 00:54:18,900
freak so was that 2000 The
turnover? Yeah, well no, it's at

938
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:19,950
9797 I'm

939
00:54:19,950 --> 00:54:21,600
sorry Jesus that long ago Yeah,

940
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:24,570
yeah, and everybody was gonna
rock Roman Ross Oh, there's

941
00:54:24,570 --> 00:54:27,720
we've noticed there's a lot more
people speaking Mandarin you

942
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:31,350
know, this is not this is their
as their spies everywhere. And

943
00:54:31,380 --> 00:54:31,620
it was a

944
00:54:31,620 --> 00:54:35,700
really it was a really easy use
handover not much change that I

945
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,600
know it's a joke of it. Yeah. Is
that

946
00:54:39,630 --> 00:54:42,690
is the it can't happen here. Is
that public domain Do you think?

947
00:54:43,350 --> 00:54:45,660
No, it can't be it was written
about 1933.

948
00:54:46,890 --> 00:54:50,040
Because I was considering
turning that into an audio book.

949
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,950
I've been wanting to record an
audio book for a long time and

950
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:55,020
I've been considering that would
be one to do.

951
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,320
You could probably get rights to
it for next to nothing.

952
00:54:58,860 --> 00:55:00,960
Why don't want to make money on
it. Just want to do it, you

953
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,850
know, just just just do it.
Yeah. Yeah.

954
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,370
You know how long it takes to
read a book out loud? Yes,

955
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,840
long time. I think it takes a
long time to do it properly.

956
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:13,139
Yeah. And you probably have to
redo a couple of things once in

957
00:55:13,139 --> 00:55:16,079
a while, and is to be edited a
little bit. I think it should

958
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:17,129
have sound effects.

959
00:55:17,429 --> 00:55:22,709
Well, you know, I've done Oh,
dude, have you seen? Go to me

960
00:55:22,709 --> 00:55:25,289
veoh.com And turn up your sound,
I want you to see this.

961
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:31,320
My browser is now working into
that shit. Sorry.

962
00:55:31,620 --> 00:55:33,210
I can if I reboot

963
00:55:33,210 --> 00:55:36,840
them, if I reboot the router, I
can do it. But I don't do that.

964
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:36,990
Do

965
00:55:36,990 --> 00:55:40,290
it later. Do it later. I think I
think because I put a good

966
00:55:40,290 --> 00:55:42,750
comedic effect in there for a
reason. I don't want to give it

967
00:55:42,750 --> 00:55:45,090
away. But if you look at it
right now, you might get a

968
00:55:45,090 --> 00:55:49,410
chuckle to one of my best pieces
of work. I did a couple of audio

969
00:55:49,410 --> 00:55:52,590
books. You know which ones I
did? Which I have never released

970
00:55:52,590 --> 00:55:58,620
because I wasn't happy with
them. But Tom Swift Tom Swift

971
00:55:58,650 --> 00:56:02,430
you don't know the Tom Swift
series? You did all of them. No,

972
00:56:02,430 --> 00:56:07,080
no, no, no, no, no, I did I
think is hydro flying machine I

973
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,440
did with the PRI when I was a
kid I read to I read all of them

974
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,210
as a kid. And I didn't know that
they were from like, 1850 these

975
00:56:15,210 --> 00:56:18,150
things are incredibly old. And
it's all the stuff that we now

976
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:21,510
have. And the reason why I've
never released them is because I

977
00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:24,030
couldn't quite get it. And you
know, they had this black guy

978
00:56:24,690 --> 00:56:31,380
who I would have to say served
Tom Swift and his dad who of

979
00:56:31,380 --> 00:56:34,320
course was also a famous
inventor in the in the books.

980
00:56:34,620 --> 00:56:37,950
And he and when you read these
original texts, it's like, yes,

981
00:56:37,950 --> 00:56:41,070
Massa, I could be doing that
right away, Massa. And I'm like,

982
00:56:41,070 --> 00:56:44,100
How can you read that without
reading like that? And I'm like,

983
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:45,810
Yeah, they really struggling.

984
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,110
Yeah, well, it's Mark Twain. All
His books were written in

985
00:56:49,110 --> 00:56:52,470
dialect and it was very popular
to write in dialect. And it

986
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:56,280
didn't that just wasn't just
black people in dialect. People,

987
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,780
everybody was written dials,
like everyone

988
00:56:57,780 --> 00:57:00,180
always talks. Everyone always
talks about Tom Sawyer, but my

989
00:57:00,180 --> 00:57:04,380
favourite book was Huckleberry
Finn was much more compelling

990
00:57:04,380 --> 00:57:10,020
adventure that he went on. And,
and that was major because he

991
00:57:10,020 --> 00:57:14,370
was with the Uncle Tom was an
Uncle Tom, who was with him on

992
00:57:14,370 --> 00:57:18,000
the raft. Could be Yeah, but you
know, so I've always struggled

993
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,630
like, I, I have a feeling that
if you don't read it the way it

994
00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:26,490
was written in dialect, then it
misses a lot. And if you do, you

995
00:57:26,490 --> 00:57:29,220
know, I, honestly people call
him

996
00:57:29,700 --> 00:57:33,090
window. Yeah, exactly. Because
there's too many people don't

997
00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:38,760
understand that it was written
that way. I mean, there are

998
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,340
people I would swear, right? I
mean, you could if you did a

999
00:57:41,370 --> 00:57:44,760
survey and use then you did you
say I'm going to quote Mark

1000
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,760
Twain doing this reading from
this character? And you didn't

1001
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,640
you talk like that? Nobody would
believe that it was actually

1002
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,540
written that way. In today's
world, because we don't have we

1003
00:57:54,540 --> 00:57:56,730
can't do that. It's not
politically correct. to even

1004
00:57:56,730 --> 00:57:57,420
think about it.

1005
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,120
Apparently, it can't happen here
is in public domain and

1006
00:58:03,150 --> 00:58:07,170
unavailable on Project
Gutenberg. Oh, really? Yeah.

1007
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,190
Although I although I'm not sure
that's true. Because a lot of

1008
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:13,860
books that are on Gutenberg are
still to come into public

1009
00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:17,640
domain, you have to be real
careful. Because they, they're

1010
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,040
up there, but they have specific
disclaimers. But

1011
00:58:20,070 --> 00:58:23,220
well, I there's there's one
clearing house that does art.

1012
00:58:23,730 --> 00:58:26,070
Like I don't have their name
offhand. But there's the big

1013
00:58:26,070 --> 00:58:29,580
ones, there's, there's the
copyright clearing house, you

1014
00:58:29,580 --> 00:58:32,160
could probably contact them, and
they would help you in this

1015
00:58:32,190 --> 00:58:33,990
regard. I'll get there.

1016
00:58:34,110 --> 00:58:36,360
I'm really considering that,
because that's the kind of

1017
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,760
project but um, another thing
I'm worried about, and this is

1018
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:39,600
what I write to a

1019
00:58:39,630 --> 00:58:43,290
great, it's a great book and
thing by Sinclair Lewis fan. So

1020
00:58:44,220 --> 00:58:47,640
is if you do this over a number
of weeks, and I ran into this

1021
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,060
with the Tom Swift experiment,
you get so many differences in

1022
00:58:51,060 --> 00:58:54,540
your intonation, and it's really
hard. It's, it's tough, it's

1023
00:58:54,540 --> 00:58:59,010
really hard to do to read an
audio book. And if you, if you

1024
00:58:59,010 --> 00:59:01,020
want to get induction, it's even
harder.

1025
00:59:01,380 --> 00:59:05,640
I think you have to read it in
one seat sitting. There's my

1026
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,800
guess I don't know somebody's
gonna who probably does this for

1027
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,370
a living, maybe listens in. But
I would think you could get away

1028
00:59:11,370 --> 00:59:14,100
with it. If you did it in one
sitting and then you did the

1029
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:15,810
production stuff afterwards,

1030
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,880
or the alternative. And this has
been done by many people, is to

1031
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,620
do it as a podcast and then do a
chapter at a time. Yeah, I could

1032
00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:28,170
do that. Well, I you know, but
I've never gotten into that. I

1033
00:59:28,170 --> 00:59:31,200
just want to listen to the whole
thing and stop it in my own near

1034
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,130
my own tempo.

1035
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:36,420
But I'll tell you, I think it'd
be a good. I'm sorry. It'd be a

1036
00:59:36,420 --> 00:59:37,170
good book to do.

1037
00:59:37,530 --> 00:59:40,740
Some of the audio books that
I've that I've purchased are so

1038
00:59:40,740 --> 00:59:44,430
poorly read. Just shit.

1039
00:59:46,530 --> 00:59:51,630
There's not that many people
that do it. Well. Would you do

1040
00:59:51,630 --> 00:59:55,920
one? It's not easy to do. Could
I do one? Well, would you? Can

1041
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,500
you imagine somebody having to
listen to my screechy voice for

1042
00:59:58,500 --> 01:00:00,960
more than an hour you have a
very Nice voice, John. I

1043
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,860
disagree. No, I don't know if I
could let me read something from

1044
01:00:04,860 --> 01:00:05,670
the news here and

1045
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:11,519
do it with the do it with the
Uncle Tom dialogue.

1046
01:00:12,029 --> 01:00:14,549
I don't know what that how that
dialect works.

1047
01:00:14,939 --> 01:00:18,389
Yes, sure you lived in that era,
man. What are you talking about?

1048
01:00:19,109 --> 01:00:24,509
Well, I just those days are
over. So I could do it as an as

1049
01:00:24,719 --> 01:00:26,699
Deepak Chopra. Okay,

1050
01:00:26,969 --> 01:00:28,259
that'll work. Oh, I

1051
01:00:28,260 --> 01:00:28,950
could talk like

1052
01:00:29,819 --> 01:00:31,709
Ross horrible, you know, good at
it. Thanks

1053
01:00:31,710 --> 01:00:33,150
so good at it.

1054
01:00:34,350 --> 01:00:36,810
Here's what I can't do the
voice. Not since the

1055
01:00:36,810 --> 01:00:40,530
inauguration of President John
F. Kennedy half a century ago.

1056
01:00:41,130 --> 01:00:44,040
As a new administration coming
into office with such a

1057
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:48,480
reservoir of expectations. It is
unprecedented that all the

1058
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,440
principal actors on the world
stage are vowing their desire to

1059
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,470
undertake the transformation
imposed on supposed to be this

1060
01:00:55,470 --> 01:01:00,420
is my Kissinger. Oh, it's
terrible. Terrible. Here's

1061
01:01:00,420 --> 01:01:01,650
the line, then I

1062
01:01:01,650 --> 01:01:05,460
actually can do a perfect
Kissinger. Yeah, if I take I

1063
01:01:05,460 --> 01:01:08,100
have this. There's this one.
There's a there's a cough syrup

1064
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:14,520
called Ventolin. Seriously, it's
a cough syrup called Ventolin.

1065
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:19,020
And I don't know what I have an
allergic reaction. And my voice

1066
01:01:19,170 --> 01:01:21,840
begins to Henry Kissinger. And
there's nothing I can do. All

1067
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:22,050
right,

1068
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,450
read read that read this middle
paragraph.

1069
01:01:26,010 --> 01:01:28,530
The extraordinary impact of the
president elect on the

1070
01:01:28,530 --> 01:01:33,210
imagination of humanity. What?
Yeah, that one? in shaping the

1071
01:01:33,210 --> 01:01:37,200
New World Order. That is the
opportunity, not a policy. What

1072
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:37,680
is this?

1073
01:01:37,709 --> 01:01:41,009
This is Kissinger, man. He just
said this. He's calling for New

1074
01:01:41,009 --> 01:01:41,789
World Order.

1075
01:01:42,629 --> 01:01:45,089
He just said this now. Yeah,
this is from

1076
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:49,170
January 12. The extraordinary

1077
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:54,270
impact of the president elect on
the imagination of humanity is

1078
01:01:54,270 --> 01:01:58,110
an important element in shaping
a new world order. But it

1079
01:01:58,110 --> 01:02:04,230
defines an opportunity, not a
policy. You go What is that

1080
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:05,220
supposed to mean?

1081
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:09,060
Oh, one world government. This
is Gordon.

1082
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,790
Brown is one of those One World
Government guys. You know,

1083
01:02:11,790 --> 01:02:16,410
Obama's, I think in that crowd,
but you think you know what I

1084
01:02:16,470 --> 01:02:17,790
wonder? Maybe

1085
01:02:18,570 --> 01:02:23,640
Brzezinski is and he's there.
He's a part of it, please. This

1086
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:28,320
is Gordon Brown is literally
having wet dreams. He is

1087
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,490
ejaculating over the fact that
Obama is now president can't

1088
01:02:32,490 --> 01:02:35,790
wait for Obama to come to the
United Kingdom for the G 20.

1089
01:02:35,790 --> 01:02:39,180
Summit, which is coming up in a
few weeks. Everything he's every

1090
01:02:39,180 --> 01:02:41,400
speech every time he's on
television. Well, President

1091
01:02:41,430 --> 01:02:44,880
Barack and then never say
brackets, Barack Obama. Hey, you

1092
01:02:44,910 --> 01:02:46,830
England. It's Barak.

1093
01:02:47,070 --> 01:02:49,920
Not Barry. Colin Barraca. Barack
Obama,

1094
01:02:50,220 --> 01:02:57,840
Barack Obama. It's Barack.
Barack Obama. Barack Obama is

1095
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,900
coming Yes, Barack Obama because
we can't do this alone. All we

1096
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:03,510
have to have bit bad banks
together, we have to have all

1097
01:03:03,510 --> 01:03:07,140
the creating a bad bank here a
bad bank in the US will have one

1098
01:03:07,140 --> 01:03:13,800
big badass bank, and it's going
to control everything. And

1099
01:03:14,010 --> 01:03:16,830
surely, surely, surely you see
that? John?

1100
01:03:18,300 --> 01:03:22,020
Yeah, you know, these these
schemes, you know, have little

1101
01:03:22,020 --> 01:03:24,570
chance of success. That's the
way I see it.

1102
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,210
Now, of course, it has little
chance of success, but what it's

1103
01:03:27,210 --> 01:03:31,710
going to succeed succeed at is
bankrupting the countries that,

1104
01:03:32,340 --> 01:03:36,180
you know, so the UK has what
they've set up and this is very

1105
01:03:36,180 --> 01:03:43,080
controversial, or should I say,
controversial? The United

1106
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,760
Kingdom will underwrite the
banks as so kind of like AIG as

1107
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,730
an insurance company. So the
banks will have to pay these

1108
01:03:50,730 --> 01:03:56,970
huge premiums to guarantee their
business. And if they go

1109
01:03:56,970 --> 01:04:01,740
bankrupt, then the Bank of
England essentially will cover

1110
01:04:01,740 --> 01:04:04,410
the loss. Well, you know, just
have one or two of these banks

1111
01:04:04,410 --> 01:04:07,200
go belly up and there's no more
money they're already talking

1112
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,350
about David Cameron, the leader
of the Conservatives is already

1113
01:04:10,350 --> 01:04:12,240
saying oh, we're gonna have to
go to the IMF we're gonna have

1114
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:16,890
to get bailed out by the IMF.
It's this place has gone down

1115
01:04:16,890 --> 01:04:22,530
the tubes of usable if you've
followed the pound or the euro

1116
01:04:22,530 --> 01:04:24,660
for that matter, versus the
Dollar

1117
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,640
Yeah. News

1118
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,750
Well, good news for me good news
for you not good news for the

1119
01:04:30,750 --> 01:04:31,590
United Kingdom.

1120
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:36,750
Yeah, well, you know they had
their day so I got you I

1121
01:04:36,750 --> 01:04:40,110
recorded for you the marijuana
Inc. Special that was done by

1122
01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:42,990
Trish Regan at CNBC.

1123
01:04:43,019 --> 01:04:45,479
Thank you. I requested that have
you did you watch it or do you

1124
01:04:45,479 --> 01:04:47,339
only record watch part of it?
It's you

1125
01:04:47,340 --> 01:04:49,890
know, it's mostly judge Trish
who used to work for

1126
01:04:49,890 --> 01:04:55,650
MarketWatch. I've met her and
I've been on a couple of shows

1127
01:04:55,650 --> 01:04:58,410
with her too, and it's always
good to see you again. Like

1128
01:04:58,410 --> 01:05:02,730
we've seen each other averages
in New York. work, but she was I

1129
01:05:02,730 --> 01:05:06,570
gotta send her an email. She was
like kind of it she did this

1130
01:05:06,570 --> 01:05:09,630
thing and she's like sitting
standing in a field of about a

1131
01:05:09,630 --> 01:05:14,280
million dollars with 20 foot
high marijuana plants with all

1132
01:05:14,820 --> 01:05:15,660
you mean heaven.

1133
01:05:17,250 --> 01:05:21,060
And she is giddy. Then I'm
thinking, you know, I think this

1134
01:05:21,060 --> 01:05:23,400
girl smoked once in a while. I
mean, that's what the the

1135
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,930
impression you have to you
should introduce

1136
01:05:24,930 --> 01:05:26,850
me to her. She sounds like my
kind of people.

1137
01:05:28,050 --> 01:05:33,660
She's pretty hot looking. So,
voila. So I only watched part of

1138
01:05:33,660 --> 01:05:36,240
it. And it's just a bunch of
she's roaming around the, you

1139
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,700
know, they did they do have a
lot of numbers, you know, the

1140
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:41,580
kind of billions of dollars that
it produces for places like

1141
01:05:41,580 --> 01:05:46,170
Mendocino County that would
otherwise be just broke. And

1142
01:05:46,170 --> 01:05:48,240
there was an argument for
legalisation. I thought it was

1143
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:52,950
pretty valid. And, you know,
just, you'll like it. I didn't

1144
01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:55,050
couldn't watch the whole thing.
It's bored me stiff.

1145
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,540
You know, there's a in Surrey
where we used to live in

1146
01:05:57,540 --> 01:06:02,280
Guilford, there's a Research
Park. Nokia has a big facility

1147
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,090
there, even a helipad, in fact.
And there's a whole bunch of

1148
01:06:06,090 --> 01:06:10,470
nondescript buildings, and the
movers who move who have moved

1149
01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:13,650
us every single time in the UK
and had our stuff in storage. I

1150
01:06:13,650 --> 01:06:17,280
know these guys, you know,
pretty small outfit. And so, you

1151
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,620
know, I'm talking to them, they
said, you know, because they,

1152
01:06:19,650 --> 01:06:22,350
you know, they were up in my
office when they were cleaning

1153
01:06:22,350 --> 01:06:25,890
out the old house. And, of
course, you know, how can you

1154
01:06:25,890 --> 01:06:31,500
avoid hearing my hearing my, my
work when you're in my office

1155
01:06:31,500 --> 01:06:38,370
for two days, and you turn your
fan back on? No. And I said, you

1156
01:06:38,370 --> 01:06:39,960
know, that's kind of
interesting. This stuff I hear

1157
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,810
you're talking about, because we
were at one of these research

1158
01:06:42,810 --> 01:06:45,630
facilities over at Surry
Research Park and the guy had a

1159
01:06:45,630 --> 01:06:49,110
whole room full of screens. And
there were all these red dots.

1160
01:06:49,110 --> 01:06:50,850
And he's saying, you know, so
what are these red dots, and the

1161
01:06:50,850 --> 01:06:53,370
guy apparently was quite
friendly. So oh, these are all

1162
01:06:53,370 --> 01:06:57,660
of the this is where all the
troops are in Afghanistan. We're

1163
01:06:57,660 --> 01:07:00,060
monitoring these live
satellites. And, you know, we

1164
01:07:00,060 --> 01:07:02,610
pass it on to the Ministry of
Defence, he was clearly saying

1165
01:07:02,610 --> 01:07:05,670
stuff he shouldn't have. And
then the guy says, you know,

1166
01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:08,010
what's interesting is all these
red dots, they're all around the

1167
01:07:08,010 --> 01:07:16,500
poppy fields. People have no
idea. I've asked my knows what,

1168
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,110
yeah, I've asked my daily source
code audience to go out on the

1169
01:07:19,110 --> 01:07:22,710
street and record people and ask
them two questions. One, what

1170
01:07:22,710 --> 01:07:25,380
kind of government do we have in
the United States? And the

1171
01:07:25,380 --> 01:07:28,230
second question is, what are we
doing in Afghanistan? And I

1172
01:07:28,230 --> 01:07:30,480
can't wait to hear the answers
when they come back.

1173
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,780
Now, they'll just be a bunch of
dumb answers.

1174
01:07:34,140 --> 01:07:36,120
Well, I think the answer to the
first question will be

1175
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,510
democracy. That's pretty much
what what everyone has been led

1176
01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:42,810
to believe. Which is wrong.

1177
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,320
Yes, a representative Republic.

1178
01:07:46,439 --> 01:07:51,509
Thank you. And started by the
French. Was it a French guys

1179
01:07:51,509 --> 01:07:52,949
idea? A republic?

1180
01:07:56,670 --> 01:07:59,820
I don't I think didn't grill a
seed that the Greeks and the

1181
01:07:59,820 --> 01:08:02,310
Romans one of them had some. The
Romans

1182
01:08:02,310 --> 01:08:04,500
had a similar structure. Yeah,
that's true. Yeah.

1183
01:08:05,070 --> 01:08:10,170
And the Senate and the whole
thing. So the Afghanistan thing

1184
01:08:10,170 --> 01:08:12,450
still fascinates me that it
means that two missiles come

1185
01:08:12,450 --> 01:08:17,790
flying in to blow up a camp and
a house and P N. And well, you

1186
01:08:17,790 --> 01:08:20,280
know, those people in there
usually. And

1187
01:08:22,260 --> 01:08:23,910
well, what happens I saw
nobody's

1188
01:08:23,910 --> 01:08:26,310
watching. Right then this was
under Obama's watch Obama's

1189
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,180
watch. He was very he was
threatening. If you remember

1190
01:08:30,210 --> 01:08:35,760
that he's going to blow up said
I'm sorry. It's Pakistan. Right.

1191
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:36,660
We're all

1192
01:08:36,899 --> 01:08:39,299
Pakistan. You're right. You're
well, the border. The Afghan

1193
01:08:39,299 --> 01:08:41,039
Pakistan border. Yes. Right.

1194
01:08:41,070 --> 01:08:45,570
There's Pakistan. misspoke. And
but he was threatening them from

1195
01:08:45,570 --> 01:08:48,900
the get go. Yeah. And then it
kind of went under the, you

1196
01:08:48,900 --> 01:08:53,220
know, went under the radar, but
he seems to be you don't seem to

1197
01:08:53,220 --> 01:08:55,410
be a pro Pakistan type of guy.

1198
01:08:56,189 --> 01:08:59,849
No, because the US has a deal
with India. India hates

1199
01:08:59,849 --> 01:09:02,999
Pakistan. They've had this whole
thing in this whole argument for

1200
01:09:03,029 --> 01:09:08,429
four decades about Kashmir. And
as far as I understand, India

1201
01:09:08,429 --> 01:09:11,549
wants to get rid of Pakistan if
this they've always hated each

1202
01:09:11,549 --> 01:09:11,939
other.

1203
01:09:15,059 --> 01:09:17,399
I don't know. I think the whole
thing Well, I don't know if they

1204
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:20,279
want to get rid of Pakistan. I
think they just want to get

1205
01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:21,719
Pakistan out of their hair.

1206
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,610
To missile attacks from
suspected us drones have killed

1207
01:09:26,610 --> 01:09:29,700
14 People in northwestern
Pakistan official say at least

1208
01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:32,700
one missile hit a house in a
village near the town of Nirali.

1209
01:09:32,700 --> 01:09:37,470
In North. Why resist Stan? A
stay, of course, a stronghold of

1210
01:09:37,470 --> 01:09:42,630
al Qaeda and Taliban militants,
of course. So I did see a

1211
01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:46,980
documentary they was channelled
was it maybe it was Channel

1212
01:09:46,980 --> 01:09:49,950
Four, interestingly enough, and
that is because because they

1213
01:09:49,950 --> 01:09:53,190
can't you know, it's just like
in Gaza, you know, you can't

1214
01:09:53,190 --> 01:09:56,790
just the press is not allowed to
go anywhere anymore. And of

1215
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:59,730
course they don't do it. But
these guys had given their

1216
01:09:59,730 --> 01:10:02,880
African Any cameraman, you know,
all the gear and he said, Yeah,

1217
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,900
Okay sit in the hospital. And he
shot for a week in the hospital.

1218
01:10:07,260 --> 01:10:09,600
And he interviewed all these
people. And essentially what's

1219
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:14,370
happening is militants,
combatants, whatever, come into

1220
01:10:14,370 --> 01:10:17,820
a village, they hide in the
village, they love some shit at

1221
01:10:17,820 --> 01:10:20,340
the US troops, then they run
away, then the troops come in

1222
01:10:20,340 --> 01:10:23,100
and then kill everybody in the
village. It's like Vietnam all

1223
01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:27,840
over again. It's like it
seriously, you know, towards

1224
01:10:28,140 --> 01:10:31,320
the experts, most of the experts
that are familiar with the

1225
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,840
region, say that we should just
get out?

1226
01:10:35,010 --> 01:10:37,530
Well, of course, we should just
get out, find out what

1227
01:10:37,530 --> 01:10:40,080
just went white. And these are
academics. We're not talking

1228
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,780
about, you know, just a bunch of
policy walks that are here. And

1229
01:10:42,780 --> 01:10:47,580
there. You people who are
genuinely concerned with the

1230
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:50,370
area, say we should get on I've
never wondered, I've always

1231
01:10:50,370 --> 01:10:53,100
wondered about this idea for you
know, and I think it would have

1232
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:58,830
worked in Iraq to kind of George
W. George W. Bush, or George W.

1233
01:10:58,860 --> 01:11:05,040
Bush, the older one, kind of
maybe had 41, as we say, in 41,

1234
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,230
he had kind of maybe had a
little bit of the right idea

1235
01:11:07,230 --> 01:11:12,390
when he invaded Iraq and then
left. I thought it was because

1236
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:14,760
of his deal with the Saudis.
That was all about Kuwait. You

1237
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,730
know, that was, that was a
visibility. That was a big

1238
01:11:17,820 --> 01:11:20,520
deal he had these great quotes
about and how you can use, you

1239
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,960
know, getting involved would be
bad and bad. And anyway, it's

1240
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:31,770
really, really bad. So when they
started shock and awe, you know,

1241
01:11:31,770 --> 01:11:34,380
that one or two days of just
blowing the place to

1242
01:11:34,380 --> 01:11:37,470
smithereens, I thought it would
be like, you know, something,

1243
01:11:37,470 --> 01:11:41,370
you know, you get into a beef
with the United States. We just

1244
01:11:41,370 --> 01:11:43,590
shock and awe them for a couple
of days and then

1245
01:11:43,650 --> 01:11:48,240
split. Well, you know, my stance
on as I totally disagree, we

1246
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,250
should get that. You don't like
the idea of just throwing

1247
01:11:50,250 --> 01:11:52,230
missiles at does anybody

1248
01:11:52,230 --> 01:11:55,710
know at anybody? I'm against
children, but it's,

1249
01:11:55,740 --> 01:11:58,950
it seems to me to be a more
interesting way of approaching

1250
01:11:58,950 --> 01:12:03,450
this than going in and just
dragging these things out

1251
01:12:03,450 --> 01:12:04,110
forever.

1252
01:12:05,250 --> 01:12:09,540
Well, of course, but Lockhart
Karzai, who was a Unocal guy was

1253
01:12:09,540 --> 01:12:13,800
an oil guy who pretends like
he's some hotshot by wearing you

1254
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:18,750
know, these this cape and this
fucking hat made of, you know,

1255
01:12:18,750 --> 01:12:23,520
foetus. Calves foetus. His
brother is a known drugs are

1256
01:12:23,550 --> 01:12:29,790
known. It can't be anything but
a huge scam. There's no other

1257
01:12:29,790 --> 01:12:32,400
reason to be there. Now, from
Huffington Post. This is one of

1258
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,560
these people you're talking
about. I don't know if she if

1259
01:12:34,830 --> 01:12:41,160
Malu innocent, great name. Mulu.
Innocent, posted yesterday,

1260
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,730
during his campaign for
presidency, Barack Obama pledged

1261
01:12:44,730 --> 01:12:47,190
to deploy more troops to
Afghanistan and to take the

1262
01:12:47,190 --> 01:12:50,430
fight into Pakistan. I guess he
did. During the second

1263
01:12:50,430 --> 01:12:53,250
presidential debate. He said if
we have Osama bin Laden in our

1264
01:12:53,250 --> 01:12:55,680
sights, and the Pakistani
government is unable or

1265
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,430
unwilling to take them out, then
I think we should have to act

1266
01:12:59,460 --> 01:13:02,160
and we will take them out. We
will kill bin Laden, we will

1267
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,890
crush al Qaeda that is our
biggest national security

1268
01:13:04,890 --> 01:13:08,220
priority. And as he goes on to
say, no one should be surprised

1269
01:13:08,220 --> 01:13:09,750
that missile strikes had been
launched under the new

1270
01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:12,870
president's watch President
Obama was unequivocal in his

1271
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:15,300
commitment to go after Al Qaeda
hiding in the hills between

1272
01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:17,550
Afghanistan and Pakistan. And
then of course, he says, Is

1273
01:13:17,550 --> 01:13:22,860
there a better approach? Oh,
yeah. But he's also said, and

1274
01:13:22,860 --> 01:13:24,810
I've read this somewhere, it's
like, well, you know, the guy is

1275
01:13:24,810 --> 01:13:28,050
holed up, you know, he clearly
has no control anymore. So we

1276
01:13:28,050 --> 01:13:29,430
don't have to go after him now.

1277
01:13:30,930 --> 01:13:33,390
No, that's the When did he say
that?

1278
01:13:33,780 --> 01:13:34,860
Not long ago,

1279
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,740
I could find is this you know,
this is what the Bush did this?

1280
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,770
Oh, you know, wanted dead or
alive. You know, bah, blah,

1281
01:13:40,770 --> 01:13:44,790
blah. Sky's like the, you know,
the tallest man in this in the

1282
01:13:44,820 --> 01:13:48,030
region, you know, and he's
floating around doing videos.

1283
01:13:48,330 --> 01:13:50,670
And so they're gonna go after
him dead or alive. And then what

1284
01:13:50,700 --> 01:13:54,570
eight years go by and they did
they ever get close to them? And

1285
01:13:54,570 --> 01:13:57,270
they don't you know, I don't
know. I find the whole thing

1286
01:13:57,300 --> 01:13:58,470
disturbing from Times

1287
01:13:58,470 --> 01:14:04,050
Online January 15. Of course,
it's the time so Barraco but I

1288
01:14:04,050 --> 01:14:07,050
guess I can't stop saying it.
Now. Barack Obama suggested last

1289
01:14:07,050 --> 01:14:09,600
night that removing Osama bin
Laden from the battlefield was

1290
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,540
no longer essential, and that
America's security goals could

1291
01:14:12,540 --> 01:14:16,050
be achieved merely by keeping al
Qaeda on the run. Here's the

1292
01:14:16,050 --> 01:14:19,680
quote. My preference obviously
would be to capture or kill him,

1293
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,410
he said, but if we have so
tightened the noose that he's in

1294
01:14:22,410 --> 01:14:26,190
a cave somewhere and can't even
communicate with his operatives,

1295
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,250
then we will meet our goal of
protecting America. So we're

1296
01:14:29,250 --> 01:14:33,480
done. I guess we can leave now.
He's in a cave. It's all set.

1297
01:14:34,110 --> 01:14:36,270
If they've tightened the noose
and he's in a cave, they at

1298
01:14:36,270 --> 01:14:38,670
least know where he is. Why
don't they go get him? This

1299
01:14:38,670 --> 01:14:42,180
makes no sense. The logic of
this is, is ridiculous. But

1300
01:14:42,180 --> 01:14:48,090
this is this is the state of our
fucking press corps dude. As

1301
01:14:48,090 --> 01:14:51,150
recently as October 7, in a
presidential debate, Mr. Obama

1302
01:14:51,150 --> 01:14:54,270
said we will kill bin Laden, we
will crush al Qaeda that has to

1303
01:14:54,270 --> 01:14:57,360
be our biggest national security
priority. Yesterday, the

1304
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,880
President Elect adopted far less
aggressive language saying he's

1305
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:02,340
now number one priority was to
protect America from further

1306
01:15:02,340 --> 01:15:05,310
attack. Well look at the CNN
video and look out for them

1307
01:15:05,310 --> 01:15:09,150
fucking flying saucers barrack?
Because that's the shit I'd be

1308
01:15:09,150 --> 01:15:09,960
worried about.

1309
01:15:13,799 --> 01:15:16,589
So in other words, you should
yeah, we're gonna get tough in

1310
01:15:16,589 --> 01:15:19,349
the NASS not that important.
Yeah. I think the whole thing is

1311
01:15:19,349 --> 01:15:19,949
a scam?

1312
01:15:21,690 --> 01:15:24,240
Well, from what I understand it
was actually Robert Gates, the

1313
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:30,330
Defence Secretary who was
staying on who actually came up

1314
01:15:30,330 --> 01:15:32,490
with al Qaeda, even with the
name.

1315
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:35,910
Well, there's that that special
that was done by that great

1316
01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:40,320
documentary terian that the BBC
uses every so often it does. You

1317
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,710
know, these? Oh, yes. I know.
You mean, to fear document I

1318
01:15:43,710 --> 01:15:48,270
friend of mine knows the guy. He
I can think of his name. knows

1319
01:15:48,270 --> 01:15:51,330
the guy. So if I go to London,
we can go out and have dinner

1320
01:15:51,330 --> 01:15:51,780
with him.

1321
01:15:51,839 --> 01:15:55,799
Really? Oh, I'd love to. But we
have to know his name that would

1322
01:15:55,799 --> 01:16:00,269
help. Like, hey, nice to meet
you. Or, hey, if

1323
01:16:01,530 --> 01:16:04,380
I get my browser up, I could
find his name. But anyway, he's,

1324
01:16:05,340 --> 01:16:09,060
yeah, it's I think it's I think
it's all Loski at the register,

1325
01:16:09,060 --> 01:16:10,200
who's pals with him?

1326
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,780
It's like an S.

1327
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:16,559
African might come here. Anyway,
he's wanted us to voice the

1328
01:16:16,559 --> 01:16:18,719
voice for those documentaries,
too. And he's, I think he's got

1329
01:16:18,719 --> 01:16:21,479
three or four sets of them. And
they're, they're fantastic.

1330
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,899
Yeah. And we'll log it or talk
about it next week. And let me

1331
01:16:24,899 --> 01:16:27,329
make a note. And so people can
watch

1332
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,450
it coming up. Now is the time to
co come over, by the way,

1333
01:16:30,450 --> 01:16:34,530
because, you know, the Germans
are coming to the United Kingdom

1334
01:16:34,530 --> 01:16:36,090
to buy BMWs.

1335
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:39,810
Wow, thanks for that. Screw it.
Yeah.

1336
01:16:40,140 --> 01:16:44,070
Because of the pound has just
collapsed. And you get the VA

1337
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:47,520
the value added tax, you get
that back? You can you can claim

1338
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,820
that back when you take it back
to the to the continent. Now, of

1339
01:16:50,820 --> 01:16:53,640
course, you have a left hand
drive, but who cares?

1340
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,210
Well, they could sell the right
hand drive ones in England.

1341
01:16:57,630 --> 01:17:00,060
Yeah. But that by that, I think
then you kind of lose your

1342
01:17:00,060 --> 01:17:02,550
benefit, because they are
significantly more expensive.

1343
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,110
And they don't they don't really
sell them here. And in fact,

1344
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:09,750
they may have the right the
right hand dryers may be

1345
01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:12,510
manufactured elsewhere. I don't
think there will in fact,

1346
01:17:12,510 --> 01:17:16,140
they're not manufacturing
anything anymore. All the car

1347
01:17:16,140 --> 01:17:17,910
companies have just closed just
saying,

1348
01:17:18,330 --> 01:17:21,090
No, you're not gonna, you know,
I see people floating around the

1349
01:17:21,090 --> 01:17:23,850
United States with one of these
right hand drive cars, you know,

1350
01:17:23,850 --> 01:17:27,060
from England, like old Rolls
Royce to get them cheap. That

1351
01:17:27,060 --> 01:17:29,370
thing is the wisdom most
dangerous thing in the world to

1352
01:17:29,370 --> 01:17:32,070
drive around, you can pass
people on the open road because

1353
01:17:32,070 --> 01:17:35,520
you can't see that they actually
stick your whole car out.

1354
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,990
That's not true. Because when we
moved here, I still had my Audi

1355
01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:43,770
eight with a right hand drive.
And honestly, I'm very happy

1356
01:17:43,770 --> 01:17:46,590
that the first year that we
lived here, we had that because

1357
01:17:46,620 --> 01:17:50,970
I only had to get used to one
thing which was driving on the

1358
01:17:50,970 --> 01:17:55,830
correct side of the road,
apparently. Because once you get

1359
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:58,650
into the car, and particularly a
manual because my daughter has a

1360
01:17:58,650 --> 01:18:01,830
manual stick shift, and it's and
it's left hand drive, and you

1361
01:18:01,830 --> 01:18:04,680
have to shift with your left
hand that takes a little getting

1362
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:05,340
used to

1363
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,610
I don't know You know, I've
driven over there a lot and I've

1364
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,070
had the shifters has never
bothered me. Well then

1365
01:18:11,460 --> 01:18:15,420
concentrate. You just have to
concentrate. Yeah, pretty soon

1366
01:18:15,420 --> 01:18:18,480
it's second nature. I think it's
kind of sporty. You're on the

1367
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:21,480
wrong side of the car with a
with a left hand shifter you

1368
01:18:21,480 --> 01:18:24,780
think you're in like the Grand
Prix of some place? Just feel

1369
01:18:24,780 --> 01:18:26,100
sporty? I don't know why

1370
01:18:26,130 --> 01:18:28,140
technically, it's the correct
side of the road.

1371
01:18:28,530 --> 01:18:32,160
Yeah, okay. You know why? Tell
me

1372
01:18:32,670 --> 01:18:39,030
because it dates back to the
days of the horse. If you were

1373
01:18:40,980 --> 01:18:44,400
Sundering along the road, you
would want to be on the left

1374
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,310
hand side because if an
adversary came from the opposite

1375
01:18:47,310 --> 01:18:49,620
direction, you want to be able
to draw your sword with your

1376
01:18:49,620 --> 01:18:50,280
right hand.

1377
01:18:51,060 --> 01:18:53,760
Oh, I thought it was so when you
were going on the horse but past

1378
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,040
one of your buddies you can give
them a high five which

1379
01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:58,710
I think is actually easier for
the drive thru

1380
01:19:02,970 --> 01:19:07,980
so whatever I know they have
that people drive on this side

1381
01:19:07,980 --> 01:19:11,970
of the road in Hong Kong and
Korea, not in China

1382
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,720
but with but with the boy the
right hand drive car. So they

1383
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:21,420
have the right cars open in
Jamaica and in in Africa. They

1384
01:19:21,420 --> 01:19:23,940
drive on the left hand side but
they have right hand drive cars,

1385
01:19:23,970 --> 01:19:24,630
most of the

1386
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:27,870
apps they have been there they
have the wheel and they're on

1387
01:19:27,870 --> 01:19:30,570
the right proper side. And they
also in Japan again because a

1388
01:19:30,570 --> 01:19:32,730
lot of the cars come from Japan
where they drive on the wrong

1389
01:19:32,730 --> 01:19:36,090
side of the road too. And all
the Japanese cars are coming out

1390
01:19:36,090 --> 01:19:38,520
of Japan are ones that are
floating around you know Hong

1391
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,220
Kong and places like that. So
they're just not like a big deal

1392
01:19:41,220 --> 01:19:44,430
to get a car with it with the
with the steering wheel on that

1393
01:19:44,430 --> 01:19:50,820
side of the of the car. So and
there's Sweden used to have be

1394
01:19:50,820 --> 01:19:53,700
the I think they switched over.
And it was quite it was a

1395
01:19:53,700 --> 01:19:56,580
problem. You know, the story
goes in Sweden they had to make

1396
01:19:56,580 --> 01:20:01,080
the transition slowly so they
for some For when they switched

1397
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:05,010
over from the right to the left
day, they did the trucks do it

1398
01:20:05,010 --> 01:20:07,860
the first week and then the cars
started the next week after

1399
01:20:07,860 --> 01:20:14,550
that. Last night Jonathan Ross
returned like a joke. You don't

1400
01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:15,390
get to know

1401
01:20:15,449 --> 01:20:16,259
I didn't get it.

1402
01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:20,400
Okay, ladies and gentlemen,
that's not my preview. Right now

1403
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:21,360
you have my proof.

1404
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:25,380
You know what I was just wasn't
listening to you. Ah, ha, I'll

1405
01:20:25,380 --> 01:20:31,170
cop to you. You lie, but at
least I'll admit it. Lie.

1406
01:20:32,250 --> 01:20:34,680
You never know, when you're not
listening to me. You just play

1407
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,200
it off. Like it's just you don't
care, but you just weren't

1408
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,680
listening. Say it again. So I
can listen to it. Please,

1409
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:41,730
please. They had to

1410
01:20:41,730 --> 01:20:44,250
transition from the right hand
to the left hand side of the

1411
01:20:44,250 --> 01:20:48,090
road. So they they wanted to do
it in an orderly fashion. So for

1412
01:20:48,090 --> 01:20:50,250
the first week that trucks
switched over, and then the

1413
01:20:50,250 --> 01:20:50,790
second week,

1414
01:20:51,570 --> 01:20:58,290
very funny. Bada bing, Robin
Williams. Stephen Fry was on

1415
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,860
Jonathan Ross last night, who
reappeared after a 12 week

1416
01:21:02,220 --> 01:21:10,050
forced absence for being naughty
on the radio. You know, that guy

1417
01:21:10,050 --> 01:21:10,620
is Yeah,

1418
01:21:10,650 --> 01:21:14,040
right. That was a big scandal.
The guys make it $4 million a

1419
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,850
year or something like that. The
BBC off the taxpayers back.

1420
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,190
Well, at the time he was I think
he was making more I think it

1421
01:21:20,190 --> 01:21:22,590
was more like 6 million pounds.
But of course now that's

1422
01:21:22,590 --> 01:21:28,170
probably $4 million. So anyway,
his guests Tom Cruise was on was

1423
01:21:28,170 --> 01:21:32,670
interesting. But Stephen Fry,
who does, and I like him even

1424
01:21:32,670 --> 01:21:35,460
more than I already liked him
for a number of reasons to this,

1425
01:21:35,490 --> 01:21:38,310
you know, this was a highly
anticipated showed. A lot of

1426
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:42,690
people watched, I'm sure. And he
does documentaries. But he's

1427
01:21:42,690 --> 01:21:47,190
done some very famous ones about
America. And it was so nice to

1428
01:21:47,190 --> 01:21:51,450
finally hear an Englishman say
something nice about America.

1429
01:21:51,900 --> 01:21:55,560
And it was it was really great.
He was like, in America. And

1430
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:57,660
this was the this was the point
that he hammered home, which I

1431
01:21:57,660 --> 01:21:59,610
really liked. He said in
America, they have a saying,

1432
01:21:59,610 --> 01:22:03,210
which is only in America, when
someone comes up with some crazy

1433
01:22:03,210 --> 01:22:06,660
invention or some fantastic
idea, or something that's just

1434
01:22:06,660 --> 01:22:09,360
while you know, whoever would
have thought of that than

1435
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,720
American say, yep, like Don
King, of course, only in

1436
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,660
America, he says, but in
Britain, whenever something's

1437
01:22:15,660 --> 01:22:18,360
fucked up, when you have to
stand in line when the weather

1438
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:22,410
is shit. People always say only
in Britain. Like that is indeed

1439
01:22:22,410 --> 01:22:26,070
the essence. And he said one
more thing, which was great. He

1440
01:22:26,070 --> 01:22:29,220
promoted Twitter on the show,
which was really it came out all

1441
01:22:29,220 --> 01:22:32,190
wrong, because of course, when
you try to explain Twitter to

1442
01:22:32,190 --> 01:22:35,850
someone, no one gets it. And he
is on Twitter, and he has been

1443
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:40,320
tweeting his his travels. But
that was kind of cool to see. To

1444
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,530
see that big, big plug for for
Twitter. That was pretty

1445
01:22:43,530 --> 01:22:44,010
awesome.

1446
01:22:45,630 --> 01:22:47,670
Yeah, did for him, you should
watch

1447
01:22:47,850 --> 01:22:50,040
this document and deal with some
of his documentaries that are

1448
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,560
really, really quite good,
particularly about the US.

1449
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:57,900
There's another one called, uh
huh. It was on the other night

1450
01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:04,020
called America unchained. And
this guy, his idea was was to

1451
01:23:04,020 --> 01:23:08,970
drive from the west coast to the
east coast without eating or

1452
01:23:08,970 --> 01:23:14,160
getting gas at a chain outfit.
And it was a very challenging

1453
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:15,420
journey. Let me tell you,

1454
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,930
what is on the main drags.
That's true. Well, if you get

1455
01:23:18,930 --> 01:23:21,120
off of those, you know, that
I've driven across the country.

1456
01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:24,270
And if you get off the
interstates, and you go on the

1457
01:23:24,270 --> 01:23:28,350
old US Highway System, which is
still intact, mostly, which is

1458
01:23:28,350 --> 01:23:31,590
what he did, absolutely, yeah,
there's plenty of places to eat.

1459
01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:33,690
And there's tonnes of places
that are not necessarily

1460
01:23:33,690 --> 01:23:35,880
changed. Now it is a little bit
more difficult with the gasoline

1461
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:36,570
exhaust. Yeah,

1462
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,210
the gasoline was the hardest
part finding diners and stuff

1463
01:23:39,210 --> 01:23:40,890
like that was relatively easy.

1464
01:23:41,490 --> 01:23:44,970
Ya know, the gasoline? Yeah.
Because it's like, what's not a

1465
01:23:44,970 --> 01:23:48,090
chain? And how do you have a gas
station? That's not a chain? And

1466
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,520
you know, and if you go to
Costco as part of a chain, I

1467
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,980
mean, I don't know how you can
be honest about how you can make

1468
01:23:52,980 --> 01:23:53,760
it. He did it.

1469
01:23:54,330 --> 01:23:58,320
He, I'm sorry. He there was one
one time when he had to fill up

1470
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:02,520
at at a chain. Because he
literally ran out of gas. But

1471
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,490
yeah, he did it. He did. He went
all the way from In fact, he

1472
01:24:05,490 --> 01:24:08,490
drove I think 6000 miles because
he wanted to also go to every

1473
01:24:08,490 --> 01:24:12,540
end of every town named
independence in America. And

1474
01:24:12,540 --> 01:24:16,470
there's quite a few particularly
in the Midwest. So we drove a

1475
01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:19,800
lot more and a lot longer. But
it was beautiful to see you

1476
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:24,480
know, when you see what I
believe is real America. With

1477
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,560
mom and pop stores. It was just
a beautiful doll. I'll get your

1478
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,750
copy because I recorded it. I
think it can spin it off onto a

1479
01:24:30,750 --> 01:24:31,620
disk somehow.

1480
01:24:31,980 --> 01:24:35,880
Yeah, bring it over if you'd
like it. Yeah. In an office,

1481
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,070
you're gonna bring over you're
coming over to this. You come in

1482
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:39,480
and go to this site Monday.

1483
01:24:39,480 --> 01:24:40,890
Yeah. Where are we my bra?

1484
01:24:42,750 --> 01:24:45,540
Well, the trend right now and I
think we're going to explore

1485
01:24:45,540 --> 01:24:49,230
these things is these Peruvian
restaurants that are the trendy

1486
01:24:49,230 --> 01:24:55,020
San Francisco thing. It is about
four of them. Or five, and I

1487
01:24:55,020 --> 01:24:59,580
think it'd be worth checking out
I went to one or during Macworld

1488
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,830
I'm with Kelly Lewis and her
husband. Oh, how was that? It

1489
01:25:04,830 --> 01:25:06,420
was good. And

1490
01:25:06,750 --> 01:25:08,760
they're nice, aren't they? Yeah,
they're very,

1491
01:25:08,820 --> 01:25:10,080
very. I know.

1492
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,590
I'm looking for confirmation
basically. No, no, they're very,

1493
01:25:13,620 --> 01:25:18,840
they're very extremely pleasant
people. Yeah. And can you know

1494
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,610
and they're into what they're
doing and they're doing fine

1495
01:25:20,610 --> 01:25:22,530
job. But anyway, so we went to
this place of which is one of

1496
01:25:22,530 --> 01:25:26,370
the trendier of the Peruvian
places. And you know, it's a lot

1497
01:25:26,370 --> 01:25:29,190
of savich a Me with all kinds of
fish and ever had, you know,

1498
01:25:29,220 --> 01:25:31,680
ever thought of that they would
make it that way and it's called

1499
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,860
something else and they have a
lot of these dishes that are one

1500
01:25:34,860 --> 01:25:37,290
thing and called another I was
in Peru and I never noticed this

1501
01:25:37,290 --> 01:25:40,320
kind of food at all. It must be
resort food or some I don't know

1502
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,210
what, what the Genesis we're

1503
01:25:42,210 --> 01:25:44,730
not gonna go to the restaurant
you already went to will go to a

1504
01:25:44,730 --> 01:25:48,540
new one, I hope. Yeah, sure.
Okay, so but I don't just want

1505
01:25:48,540 --> 01:25:51,540
to do let's not just do, because
we certainly should have dinner

1506
01:25:51,540 --> 01:25:54,450
twice because I'm leaving. I
made a mistake in my email. I'm

1507
01:25:54,450 --> 01:25:58,350
leaving Saturday, not Sunday.
Yeah. Okay. So I can do Tuesday,

1508
01:25:58,350 --> 01:26:00,240
Wednesday, Thursday and Friday
night.

1509
01:26:00,689 --> 01:26:05,219
So the problem with you is like,
is on Tuesday. There's a

1510
01:26:05,220 --> 01:26:07,710
lot of there's a lot of problems
with new John, but feel free to

1511
01:26:07,710 --> 01:26:08,820
point one or two out.

1512
01:26:09,630 --> 01:26:14,220
You're you're kind of fagged
out. For the first two or three

1513
01:26:14,220 --> 01:26:17,190
days that you're here and you're
like, if we go to dinner at

1514
01:26:17,190 --> 01:26:20,400
five, it's too late. No, that's

1515
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,030
only the first day I'll be fine.
I'll be fine. I'm well rested.

1516
01:26:24,660 --> 01:26:29,220
I'm into it. I'm good. I can't
wait to hear that. Yeah, no, I

1517
01:26:29,220 --> 01:26:31,230
know. I'll be good. I can't wait
for you to come over here. I

1518
01:26:31,230 --> 01:26:34,500
want you to come over here man.
I'm a Londoner now I've got all

1519
01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:37,200
the I've got all the fresh
places all these small little

1520
01:26:37,470 --> 01:26:41,250
the butcher there's the fish
guy. There's the vegetable guy.

1521
01:26:41,250 --> 01:26:43,920
It's always independent stores
that have been around for 40

1522
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:48,420
years. You love this area by the
way. You know Samuel Pepys,

1523
01:26:48,450 --> 01:26:49,890
Pepe. Oh, yeah.

1524
01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:54,120
He lived he thought was peeps.
Well, it's pee pee wise. I

1525
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:58,260
thought it was Pepe. Whatever
has peeps, but he lived here in

1526
01:26:58,260 --> 01:27:01,320
your house that no not in this
house. I do know that a very

1527
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,720
famous person lived in this
house. I'm not going to mention

1528
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,700
it on the air because I don't
want people to know where I

1529
01:27:05,700 --> 01:27:10,290
live. I'll tell you off the air.
Very famous. In fact, some of

1530
01:27:10,290 --> 01:27:13,350
what he did he has done in this
house which is we've not you

1531
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:15,690
love this story. I'm sorry. Just
I'm not going to tell it on the

1532
01:27:15,690 --> 01:27:18,630
air. You will love the story
when I tell it to because he has

1533
01:27:18,630 --> 01:27:22,080
he's he has done his work in
this house. And no one fucking

1534
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:26,370
knew it. This is like a landmark
and it's not recommended Jagger.

1535
01:27:27,180 --> 01:27:30,570
No, but I will tell you that
right in front of our door in

1536
01:27:30,570 --> 01:27:38,400
1970. Maybe it was 69. The Who?
There a van was stolen with

1537
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:42,960
their equipment. And it showed
up right near the house here

1538
01:27:43,380 --> 01:27:47,490
with all the equipment gone.
Five 5000 pounds worth of gear.

1539
01:27:47,790 --> 01:27:49,950
So there's some rock and roll
history. But no, this guy is

1540
01:27:49,950 --> 01:27:55,590
from the 1800s and late 1800s.
But this is Jagger, yes. But a

1541
01:27:55,590 --> 01:28:01,620
boom but this entire area of
Clapham Battersea and to certain

1542
01:28:01,620 --> 01:28:08,220
extent Brixton in the 1960s when
the Black Death was in London,

1543
01:28:08,250 --> 01:28:12,090
everyone fled London if they
could, because eventually it's

1544
01:28:12,090 --> 01:28:16,380
at a certain point around 6263
They locked up London, you

1545
01:28:16,380 --> 01:28:19,530
couldn't get across the Thames
and everyone fled out here to be

1546
01:28:19,530 --> 01:28:23,250
saved from the Black Plague.
It's very interesting history. I

1547
01:28:23,250 --> 01:28:25,320
have to think I think you'll
enjoy it if you come over.

1548
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,310
Yeah, no, I get over there.
Sure. No, I will because

1549
01:28:29,310 --> 01:28:31,080
actually now there's no the
sound was

1550
01:28:31,260 --> 01:28:34,860
down just gone didn't call. Hey,
I got miles on Hello. I can give

1551
01:28:34,860 --> 01:28:36,750
you miles on my Virgin Atlantic.

1552
01:28:37,260 --> 01:28:41,160
The I take them you probably got
lots of miles by now.

1553
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:46,140
Yeah, in fact, to to help with
the credit crunch. I'm now

1554
01:28:46,170 --> 01:28:49,320
buying coach and upgrading with
miles.

1555
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:52,110
Let's same thing.

1556
01:28:53,070 --> 01:28:54,720
Well, what do you mean? It's the
same thing?

1557
01:28:55,230 --> 01:28:56,820
I missed you still in first
class,

1558
01:28:56,850 --> 01:29:00,840
right? Yeah. But what I'm saying
is I'm no longer paying for

1559
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:05,520
a you're actually buying first
class tickets for class. Miles.

1560
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:06,780
Yes, I've got

1561
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:11,340
well. Back in the day when
everyone had tonnes of money. It

1562
01:29:11,340 --> 01:29:13,800
was okay, you know, but now
we've all got to be careful.

1563
01:29:14,219 --> 01:29:17,789
Right. Except Obama redecorating
his place for 100 grand. Yeah.

1564
01:29:17,790 --> 01:29:20,730
And the 100 and $70 million
inauguration. Sure. Except for

1565
01:29:20,730 --> 01:29:22,080
except for those minor points.

1566
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:25,800
Was it 170 million to do that?

1567
01:29:26,070 --> 01:29:29,910
That's what I heard 150 to 170.
Someone even calculated the

1568
01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:33,810
carbon footprint which is like
bigger than a whole coal, coal

1569
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:34,740
installation.

1570
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:38,760
The carbon footprint are like

1571
01:29:39,300 --> 01:29:43,260
five and 525 million tonnes of
co2 Whatever.

1572
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,280
So I don't think we got to any
good topics today.

1573
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,760
What are you talking about?
Well, first of all, you came to

1574
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,900
the party with nothing. I think
I've been I've been driving the

1575
01:29:54,900 --> 01:29:59,070
ship. So yeah, what do you mean
no good topics.

1576
01:30:00,989 --> 01:30:03,659
I just get the feeling that
compared to last week's show

1577
01:30:03,659 --> 01:30:06,179
which I think we're we were
pounding the ball out of the

1578
01:30:06,179 --> 01:30:11,159
park. You know we got like this
kind of a boring show. I think

1579
01:30:11,159 --> 01:30:12,119
we should start it over

1580
01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:25,650
country Obama, everybody welcome
to the Obama station of the

1581
01:30:25,650 --> 01:30:28,950
nation. It's a sea to the sea
here in South Westland. The JCD

1582
01:30:28,950 --> 01:30:30,600
How're you doing, buddy? Hey,
buddy,

1583
01:30:30,749 --> 01:30:35,909
come on in. By the way, I've got
I've recorded a family guy for

1584
01:30:35,909 --> 01:30:41,459
you. Were the were Brian becomes
a DJ. Oh, awesome. Great. Have

1585
01:30:41,459 --> 01:30:43,949
you ever seen this one? Oh, I
haven't. Oh, that's great. Oh,

1586
01:30:43,949 --> 01:30:46,829
this is the funniest one because
they got these two boneheads

1587
01:30:46,829 --> 01:30:51,569
that are just a all they do is
play Jenga. Oh, awesome. You

1588
01:30:51,569 --> 01:30:54,659
would love this particular
episode because it's just it

1589
01:30:54,659 --> 01:30:58,079
shows the it has all this stuff
that you like you think is

1590
01:30:58,079 --> 01:30:58,469
funny.

1591
01:30:58,740 --> 01:31:02,490
Well, it's like, I saw Wayne's
World to the other day. Have you

1592
01:31:02,490 --> 01:31:04,110
ever did you probably have never
seen Wayne's World?

1593
01:31:04,110 --> 01:31:07,260
I never even knew it existed?
Oh, yeah. Oh, no, I that's not

1594
01:31:07,260 --> 01:31:08,520
what Kim Basinger, isn't it?

1595
01:31:09,150 --> 01:31:12,900
That was one I don't know if she
was in two because I only saw a

1596
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:15,420
little bit of it. But basically
Wayne and Garth go to promote

1597
01:31:15,420 --> 01:31:19,140
their concert? Maybe it was one?
I don't know. I don't know.

1598
01:31:19,170 --> 01:31:24,930
Maybe it was one. And they go to
a radio station. And the guy. So

1599
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,530
he's interviewing them. And it's
exactly the way it works. And so

1600
01:31:28,530 --> 01:31:31,230
they're talking and the guy is
is basically turning around.

1601
01:31:31,230 --> 01:31:33,300
He's fiddling with the carts.
You know, that's an old

1602
01:31:33,300 --> 01:31:36,600
fashioned jingle system,
basically a track cartridges.

1603
01:31:36,780 --> 01:31:40,320
And he's going Yeah, so they're
talking and it just makes these

1604
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:44,940
listen noises. Yeah. He'll just
rambling. Oh, yeah. And then all

1605
01:31:44,940 --> 01:31:47,370
of a sudden, it's like pure
gunshot Oh, yeah. That coming

1606
01:31:47,370 --> 01:31:54,330
closer. Yeah. Okay, god. It's so
spot it is so Exactly, exactly

1607
01:31:54,330 --> 01:31:57,390
what top 40 used to be. Because
of course, now we don't even

1608
01:31:57,390 --> 01:32:01,530
have that sad type of radio
anymore. Now that it's all clear

1609
01:32:01,530 --> 01:32:04,200
channel, all the radio
companies, all these big ones,

1610
01:32:04,230 --> 01:32:07,710
you can buy them now for 18
cents a share so bankrupt. It's

1611
01:32:07,710 --> 01:32:09,120
all it's all gonna go away. I

1612
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:12,060
think we Yeah, I know. I talked
to you before about the fact

1613
01:32:12,060 --> 01:32:14,010
that we should own a radio
station. But you thought it was

1614
01:32:14,010 --> 01:32:14,640
a bad idea?

1615
01:32:14,730 --> 01:32:19,350
Yeah. Because it's people just
don't tune in that way anymore.

1616
01:32:19,410 --> 01:32:22,170
That's why I think I think the
newspaper column I think, you

1617
01:32:22,170 --> 01:32:24,690
know, I think I want to do that
here in the UK, because that's

1618
01:32:24,690 --> 01:32:28,290
still kind of where people get
their info from. And I could

1619
01:32:28,290 --> 01:32:32,070
plug this show I could put I
didn't want the show in I was in

1620
01:32:32,070 --> 01:32:33,810
the Financial Times a couple of
weeks back

1621
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,860
in the morning. Play the show.
Yeah. Yeah. Daily source

1622
01:32:37,860 --> 01:32:41,850
code, no agenda. The guy didn't
really report. Nice guy is the

1623
01:32:41,850 --> 01:32:46,350
guy he does a weekly podcast The
Financial Times Mike is shows

1624
01:32:46,350 --> 01:32:49,770
like beer mat radio or
something. And he's kind of he's

1625
01:32:49,770 --> 01:32:52,470
not really a typical Financial
Times type guy, but he wrote it

1626
01:32:52,470 --> 01:32:56,640
wrote a nice column little
interview, you know, about what

1627
01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:00,660
I'm doing. But zero. I heard no
one say anything about it.

1628
01:33:01,020 --> 01:33:02,880
Nothing, not an email, nothing.

1629
01:33:03,450 --> 01:33:06,420
Yeah, I'm always that's actually
something that, you know, I

1630
01:33:06,420 --> 01:33:08,670
don't know if the public
understands completely, but if

1631
01:33:08,670 --> 01:33:11,490
you do a lot of this kind of
stuff, you know, whether it's

1632
01:33:11,490 --> 01:33:17,160
writing or TV or radio, you get,
you get, you'll get some

1633
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:23,460
feedback from the public at
large. Sometimes, and it's

1634
01:33:23,460 --> 01:33:26,820
always usually sometimes it's
surprising. And then other times

1635
01:33:26,820 --> 01:33:29,190
you do something you think is
gonna get a lot of attention and

1636
01:33:29,190 --> 01:33:31,950
you get nothing Correct. Nobody.
Oh, you were on that? I didn't

1637
01:33:31,950 --> 01:33:38,670
know. I think well, I was gonna
say like Leola ports. Twit is

1638
01:33:38,700 --> 01:33:41,430
like a good example of somebody
has a huge wide audience. In

1639
01:33:41,430 --> 01:33:45,390
fact, I use that platform
occasionally to solicit

1640
01:33:45,390 --> 01:33:50,040
clothing. And right I know it
sounds silly, but it's but what

1641
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:53,880
I'm talking about is football.
Like a football team wins a

1642
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:58,170
championship I put the word
recordings and I'll get I'll get

1643
01:33:58,170 --> 01:34:02,760
I'm gonna get like buddies. And,
and other things you do you get

1644
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:06,360
nothing in fact that when I was
doing when I was we were still

1645
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,090
do this, but not as much as I
used to. But at Market Watch.

1646
01:34:09,090 --> 01:34:11,460
When they were owned by CBS,
they used to have this show

1647
01:34:11,460 --> 01:34:14,520
called the money something or
other. And it was on and he had

1648
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:19,170
a huge audience huge. And I
would do the show once in a

1649
01:34:19,170 --> 01:34:21,930
while. And there was only one
person ever saw me do it. And it

1650
01:34:21,930 --> 01:34:27,660
was my pharmacist who was like
90, and it was outside on

1651
01:34:27,660 --> 01:34:31,800
Wednesday because they showed it
at weird hours. And so then they

1652
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:36,240
got sold to Dow Jones and I'd
started doing CNBC, which which

1653
01:34:36,270 --> 01:34:39,690
and by comparisons, it was like
talking to an audience of 5

1654
01:34:39,690 --> 01:34:45,900
million to an audience of
45,000. But the CNBC audience is

1655
01:34:45,900 --> 01:34:50,160
like, guys watching 24/7 They're
all in the you know, they're all

1656
01:34:50,490 --> 01:34:53,850
in the stock market thing.
They're all I got more feedback.

1657
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,190
Yeah, I got like, Oh, you were
on there. You were on there. I

1658
01:34:56,190 --> 01:34:59,430
get from guy after guy after
guy. And I'm thinking this is

1659
01:34:59,430 --> 01:35:02,820
the this is interesting because
sometimes the biggest, what you

1660
01:35:02,820 --> 01:35:05,250
think is a big effect is just
enough that

1661
01:35:05,250 --> 01:35:09,330
died. Yeah. Well, I've seen this
throughout my entire career, the

1662
01:35:09,330 --> 01:35:14,550
duds. But you know, when, in the
early days in the Netherlands

1663
01:35:14,550 --> 01:35:18,120
when we only had two television
stations state run, and I would

1664
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,940
do my show on if it was
Thursday, later was Sunday.

1665
01:35:20,940 --> 01:35:23,310
First, it was Sunday evening, I
think, you know, the, it was

1666
01:35:23,340 --> 01:35:27,240
literally it was 35% market
share, you know, like, huge

1667
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:32,760
audience, so just millions and
millions of people. And nine

1668
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,700
times out of 10, you know, you
think this is Oh, man, people

1669
01:35:35,700 --> 01:35:39,450
are gonna love this show and
nothing. The numbers were there,

1670
01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:42,150
people watched it, we just
nothing and then you do

1671
01:35:42,150 --> 01:35:45,690
something. And typically when
the numbers, the ratings will be

1672
01:35:45,690 --> 01:35:49,230
lower, and you get all kinds of
feedback. It's you can't pin

1673
01:35:49,230 --> 01:35:51,630
anything down on it, you have no
idea how it works.

1674
01:35:51,990 --> 01:35:55,830
I think it's the targeting. I
think if you got the right

1675
01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:58,830
person targeted to the right
audience, you'll get a lot of

1676
01:35:58,830 --> 01:36:02,070
feedback. And it doesn't have to
be a large audience just has to

1677
01:36:02,070 --> 01:36:04,320
be the right audience. It's
like, right, targeting, it's

1678
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:07,170
like this is you know, about
narrow casting. And I think the

1679
01:36:07,170 --> 01:36:09,960
I think you have a bigger
effect. That's just my guess.

1680
01:36:10,230 --> 01:36:13,110
But I mean, it seems to be the
case. I mean, it's like, like

1681
01:36:13,110 --> 01:36:16,380
with the twit thing. Leo's got,
you know, not I mean, there's

1682
01:36:16,380 --> 01:36:19,710
nobody that listened would
possibly listen to that show at

1683
01:36:19,710 --> 01:36:24,300
all, unless they were interested
in one thing only. It's not like

1684
01:36:24,330 --> 01:36:27,000
it's not like broadcasting in
any way. And I think too, with

1685
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,300
our show, it's a little bit like
that, except we're more of a of

1686
01:36:30,300 --> 01:36:35,760
a general interest podcast. So I
think I'll do I get a lot of

1687
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,220
feedback from this. I mean, we
have enough people now even

1688
01:36:38,220 --> 01:36:40,380
though people should help us get
a bigger audience. Yes, you

1689
01:36:40,380 --> 01:36:40,740
should.

1690
01:36:40,890 --> 01:36:44,190
And get me more followers on
Twitter, I think I need more.

1691
01:36:44,250 --> 01:36:47,250
I've got only got seven or seven
and a half 1000 or something. I

1692
01:36:47,250 --> 01:36:49,710
need more, because I am starting
to use it more and really does

1693
01:36:49,710 --> 01:36:50,190
work.

1694
01:36:50,430 --> 01:36:54,510
Well. That's the complaint about
you. What? You don't use it that

1695
01:36:54,510 --> 01:36:55,290
much. I

1696
01:36:55,290 --> 01:36:56,730
use it all the time. Now.

1697
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,690
I'm okay. Well, you're using it
more. I'm tweeting. So anyway,

1698
01:37:00,690 --> 01:37:03,960
the point is, is that I get
people coming up to me, I still

1699
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,870
find this peculiar since I've
been writing for PC Magazine for

1700
01:37:06,900 --> 01:37:10,500
25 years. And within at some
point, the audience was two or 3

1701
01:37:10,500 --> 01:37:14,880
million people. I still have
people that just discover me

1702
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:19,380
only from these podcasts. I love
that. I love you on twit and no

1703
01:37:19,380 --> 01:37:22,950
agenda. That's fantastic. And,
you know, they don't know me

1704
01:37:22,950 --> 01:37:26,340
from anything else. It's like
it's a complete, you know, like

1705
01:37:26,340 --> 01:37:26,850
I just show

1706
01:37:26,850 --> 01:37:29,640
you, you know, my theory about
that is that you have this

1707
01:37:29,670 --> 01:37:36,630
audience that essentially stems
from the Tech TV days, which was

1708
01:37:36,630 --> 01:37:40,020
a very rabid community.

1709
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:42,750
Yeah. Very small. But rabid?

1710
01:37:42,780 --> 01:37:46,710
Yeah. Well, I, you know, so
250,000 is, yeah, it's large for

1711
01:37:46,710 --> 01:37:50,250
us. But it I think that's
probably what the audience was,

1712
01:37:50,550 --> 01:37:57,720
if at Tech TV, it was smaller
than that. 50 50,000 Yeah. But

1713
01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:59,880
it's also it's about a topic
that a lot of people are in

1714
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:02,940
your, in general, this week in
tech is supposed to be about

1715
01:38:02,940 --> 01:38:08,100
tech. And you know, like, when
you so when you have a great

1716
01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:13,050
episode, by the way with Geordi
LaForge, we used to have the

1717
01:38:13,050 --> 01:38:13,830
same agent

1718
01:38:16,440 --> 01:38:17,430
seems like a nice guy,

1719
01:38:17,460 --> 01:38:23,310
very nice guy. And, and he does
a lot of stuff, man, you know,

1720
01:38:23,340 --> 01:38:26,040
not just the Star Trek stuff.
But he you know, the Reading

1721
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,970
Rainbow. He's been doing that
for a long time. You know, but

1722
01:38:29,970 --> 01:38:33,990
it's interesting for you look at
how many iPhones are out there

1723
01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:36,480
anyone with an iPhone who likes
iPhone apps is going to be

1724
01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:39,810
interested in twit because
eventually something will fly by

1725
01:38:39,810 --> 01:38:42,450
you know, it's that that makes
total sense. To me. I think the

1726
01:38:42,450 --> 01:38:45,870
audience is limited. And I think
the impact that you have on the

1727
01:38:45,870 --> 01:38:50,010
world in general is zero. You
know, it's chewing gum, but it's

1728
01:38:50,010 --> 01:38:51,690
great. You know, it's

1729
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:55,740
not like there's no no impact
whatsoever. In fact, the impact

1730
01:38:55,740 --> 01:39:00,270
you get from print media has
always been it's always been

1731
01:39:00,270 --> 01:39:05,490
more noticeable. I used to be I
used to be able to, to monitor

1732
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,160
it, and I'd never monetize it
for my own benefit. But in the

1733
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:12,540
heyday, I could write some just
two or three sentence thing,

1734
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:17,070
plugging a specific product and
inside track, and I would get a

1735
01:39:17,070 --> 01:39:20,940
hold of the vendor and I'd want
to track sales. The sales bumped

1736
01:39:20,940 --> 01:39:25,650
it yet. And the heyday half a
million Wow. Half a million

1737
01:39:25,650 --> 01:39:30,030
dollar sales bump instantly. is
actually quite interesting.

1738
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,240
Dave Weiner was harping on you
yesterday, which was kind of

1739
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:36,120
interesting. What did he say?
Well, I saw these he was because

1740
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:39,300
I follow him on Twitter and I
saw these Twitter's I guess some

1741
01:39:39,300 --> 01:39:41,790
journalist or someone said
something nasty about him, you

1742
01:39:41,790 --> 01:39:44,700
know, typical day and of course,
he won't write about who said

1743
01:39:44,700 --> 01:39:48,240
what he won't point to it. The
God knows what it was. But he

1744
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,130
was saying there are two types
of actually I should read the

1745
01:39:50,130 --> 01:39:57,810
blog post to be factual. There
are two types of journalists,

1746
01:39:58,290 --> 01:40:01,590
actors and non actors I'll read
it you probably looking at it

1747
01:40:01,590 --> 01:40:03,480
right now, but read it in
journalism. There's a big

1748
01:40:03,480 --> 01:40:06,930
difference between the actors
and the non actors. The actors

1749
01:40:06,930 --> 01:40:09,900
are trying to create an effect.
You're not hearing what they

1750
01:40:09,900 --> 01:40:12,870
really think you're hearing what
they want you to think. They're

1751
01:40:12,870 --> 01:40:15,720
thinking non actors try to play
it straight. They want to

1752
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,870
communicate their ideas
accurately and persuasively and

1753
01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:21,840
try and strive to find better
and better ways to do that. It

1754
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,680
is true in journalism and
equally true in blogging. To

1755
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,110
explain the idea to a journalist
friend, I thought of two people

1756
01:40:28,110 --> 01:40:31,590
who are who he would be likely
to know to extreme example,

1757
01:40:31,620 --> 01:40:36,480
extreme examples, Scott
Rosenberg and John Dvorak. So I

1758
01:40:36,480 --> 01:40:38,550
continue reading. Yeah, I

1759
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:41,220
did. I don't like I said, my
browser's not up so I can't read

1760
01:40:41,220 --> 01:40:42,030
this. Rosenberg

1761
01:40:42,060 --> 01:40:45,300
is the former managing editor of
Salon film critic at the SF

1762
01:40:45,300 --> 01:40:49,170
examiner Dvorak is a longtime
tech columnist. I read him 30

1763
01:40:49,170 --> 01:40:52,710
years ago and info world then PC
mag. Now he's a blogger and

1764
01:40:52,710 --> 01:40:55,260
podcaster, which is incorrect,
because you're still right.

1765
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:59,010
Rosenberg and Dwaraka. Very
different sorts of reporters in

1766
01:40:59,010 --> 01:41:02,610
person. Check it out, John, in
person. The Vortech is a

1767
01:41:02,610 --> 01:41:07,830
gentleman and really nice,
thoughtful guy on the web. And

1768
01:41:07,830 --> 01:41:12,000
in his podcast, I guess is this
one or maybe it's tech five,

1769
01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:15,810
he's an actor playing the role
of a cranky thoughtless clown.

1770
01:41:18,150 --> 01:41:23,070
In this video, thoughtful Dvorak
explains Dvorak the actor and

1771
01:41:23,070 --> 01:41:26,550
you know what video that is,
right? Yeah, I've crazy video

1772
01:41:26,550 --> 01:41:30,690
that about the Mac about Apple?
Yeah. And then he goes on to say

1773
01:41:30,690 --> 01:41:33,120
Rosenberg, on the other hand, if
you met him in person would be

1774
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:36,510
the same and say the same things
in his online persona. I

1775
01:41:36,510 --> 01:41:39,510
disagree with that, because
well, maybe I'm just seeing John

1776
01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:42,300
the actor, but you act the same
around me in person as you do on

1777
01:41:42,300 --> 01:41:42,930
the show.

1778
01:41:43,290 --> 01:41:46,770
Yeah. Now he's you what he's
doing. He's just he's basing

1779
01:41:46,770 --> 01:41:51,120
that entire theory on that one.
Macintosh, goading, the

1780
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:56,070
Macintosh community incident is
generally speaking the formula

1781
01:41:56,070 --> 01:41:56,280
for

1782
01:41:58,440 --> 01:42:00,060
the audience to shitty anyway,
sorry.

1783
01:42:00,450 --> 01:42:03,840
It's a very there was a we had a
cheap camera is this really

1784
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,090
should we shoot that? But
anyway, the

1785
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,490
reacted please, John. That's the
point.

1786
01:42:08,850 --> 01:42:12,000
Is that, you know, is that you
know, there's the element that

1787
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:15,810
the way he expresses it is that
you do some I hate when I do

1788
01:42:15,810 --> 01:42:18,690
cranky geeks and I'm getting
worked about something I'm not.

1789
01:42:19,860 --> 01:42:22,380
I'm not not irked. I mean,
there's a lot of things that

1790
01:42:22,380 --> 01:42:26,940
really work me. And you've heard
me go on these rants. And it's

1791
01:42:26,940 --> 01:42:31,800
not really an acting job as very
sincere about these rants. Now,

1792
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,110
when I'm kidding around about
that Macintosh thing. That's a

1793
01:42:34,110 --> 01:42:37,890
different story. But that's like
a lot of my body of work. It's

1794
01:42:37,890 --> 01:42:42,600
so minor that I can't, you know,
I don't whiners generalising in

1795
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,390
a funny way, but at least he
gave me a compliment for being a

1796
01:42:45,390 --> 01:42:46,110
gentleman.

1797
01:42:47,550 --> 01:42:49,980
Yeah. Well, you know, the stuff
you see you're

1798
01:42:49,980 --> 01:42:53,280
right. No, you're right. He's
doesn't know that's just Weiner

1799
01:42:53,310 --> 01:42:57,120
doing doing his thing. You can
I'm not, I'm not going to

1800
01:42:57,120 --> 01:43:05,250
paraphrase you. It's okay. All
right. Well, but yes. About what

1801
01:43:05,250 --> 01:43:06,330
paraphrased me about what

1802
01:43:06,330 --> 01:43:09,240
know what you said the other
day. That doesn't matter. It

1803
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:13,020
wasn't it was private
conversation. People hate it

1804
01:43:13,020 --> 01:43:13,410
when I do.

1805
01:43:14,460 --> 01:43:17,100
Yeah, they do. Um, you're gonna
get letters. But uh, oh, I

1806
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:20,490
hope it would be nice to get
one. You know, at MTV, I used to

1807
01:43:20,490 --> 01:43:24,300
actually get letters before
email. And they were sacks and

1808
01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:26,580
sacks of mail in my dressing
room.

1809
01:43:27,570 --> 01:43:30,930
They used to be a lot more mail.
I mean, during the like, just

1810
01:43:30,930 --> 01:43:34,470
before the email thing became
super popular, which I would

1811
01:43:34,590 --> 01:43:39,270
kind of pin down around the year
2000. I get lots of press

1812
01:43:39,270 --> 01:43:41,940
release, I'd be loaded with mail
and then it one day just

1813
01:43:41,940 --> 01:43:45,600
disappeared. I don't get a press
release in the mail now. No, I

1814
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:46,440
think I've seen one

1815
01:43:46,740 --> 01:43:50,490
progress. I think that's kind of
progress. I really miss the old

1816
01:43:50,490 --> 01:43:53,910
days when you go on MTV and say,
hey, send me a naked picture.

1817
01:43:53,910 --> 01:43:58,650
And lo and behold, they would
show up. The audio guy Rick

1818
01:43:58,650 --> 01:44:03,750
Kalman was a good friend of
mine. So you know, sometimes he

1819
01:44:03,750 --> 01:44:06,240
say hey, man, could you just do
audio and I can go take a shit

1820
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,310
because I had the only dress
room nearby with a with a

1821
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:11,760
toilet. And so I'd be doing
audio in the booth and then he'd

1822
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:16,080
go and open up my mail and
literally 1012 postal sacks full

1823
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,840
and it was just amazing to see
the stuff that people would send

1824
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:23,520
and I still had I kept some of
it. And cakes and brownies and

1825
01:44:24,510 --> 01:44:25,920
other things I would not eat.

1826
01:44:26,580 --> 01:44:29,160
Yeah, you don't want to eat
stuff. That's not a

1827
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:34,560
good idea. I didn't think it was
boring. John. I thought it was a

1828
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,240
really good show personally.
Okay,

1829
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,300
well, we'll have to we'll let
the duty to the readers decide.

1830
01:44:39,330 --> 01:44:41,700
But you might you might want to
prepare for next week.

1831
01:44:42,510 --> 01:44:46,260
We have no agenda. I got the one
note that I made. Where is it?

1832
01:44:46,530 --> 01:44:50,160
What is your one note that I can
find out who the guy that BBC

1833
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:55,380
documentarian is a guy with a
voice that he it's I'll get it I

1834
01:44:55,380 --> 01:44:55,800
get it.

1835
01:44:56,550 --> 01:45:01,260
But he is great. He's he's done.
Many good documentaries that I

1836
01:45:01,260 --> 01:45:08,220
would say. Even David Icke
quotes him a lot for the work he

1837
01:45:08,220 --> 01:45:08,730
does.

1838
01:45:10,500 --> 01:45:13,830
My favourite like your friend,
we should go have lunch with

1839
01:45:13,830 --> 01:45:14,850
him. I'm sure he'd

1840
01:45:14,850 --> 01:45:18,570
love to. Maybe we can get them
we can have

1841
01:45:18,630 --> 01:45:27,390
he asked him why he uses the the
pin name dick d.ic K E. I don't

1842
01:45:27,390 --> 01:45:34,680
know. All right. All right. All
right. So coming to you from the

1843
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:40,500
curry terrorists. Famous for its
escape route out of death ridden

1844
01:45:40,500 --> 01:45:43,440
London and Gitmo nation east.
I'm Adam curry.

1845
01:45:43,889 --> 01:45:47,069
John C. Dvorak here in Northern
Silicon Valley, also known as

1846
01:45:47,069 --> 01:45:50,729
get more on nation West, at
least for the moment until Obama

1847
01:45:50,729 --> 01:45:51,389
changes it.

1848
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:54,330
We'll talk again next week right
here on no agenda.