1 00:00:01,650 --> 00:00:06,090 It's time once again for Joe Sixpack and the soccer moms. Hey 2 00:00:06,090 --> 00:00:10,470 everybody, it's no agenda coming to you from the west coast or 3 00:00:10,470 --> 00:00:15,360 the west side of Gitmo nation. And hi in Horni in the curry 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,690 condo, overlooking the San Francisco Bay and the financial 5 00:00:18,690 --> 00:00:20,460 district, my name is Adam curry. 6 00:00:21,210 --> 00:00:23,490 And I'm John C. Dvorak here in Northern Silicon Valley 7 00:00:23,490 --> 00:00:26,730 overlooking the bay from the other side, the cheap side, the 8 00:00:26,730 --> 00:00:31,140 cheap seats, as it were, hey, I can see hey, how 9 00:00:31,140 --> 00:00:34,920 you doing there, John, love to see ya waving back at you. So 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,510 let me just start off if I may, by saying she had me from Hello, 11 00:00:39,540 --> 00:00:39,810 may I? 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,650 Wait, wait before you say anything when we're talking? 13 00:00:43,650 --> 00:00:46,170 We're doing a special show here. Because we just watched the 14 00:00:46,170 --> 00:00:49,380 debates. And we're doing a Thursday night version of no 15 00:00:49,380 --> 00:00:50,160 agenda. It's 16 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:53,940 the vice presidential debate of 2008. Right. And I 17 00:00:53,940 --> 00:00:57,810 have to tell you, that I think Joe Biden kicked her ass. 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,490 You're kidding me? 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:06,180 Yes, I am actually my goodness. I was thinking of different 20 00:01:06,180 --> 00:01:09,150 things to say to get your reaction. You know, I 21 00:01:11,370 --> 00:01:16,530 I'm almost at a loss for words, John, this debate. So validates 22 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:22,170 my entire theory that this whole thing is a charade equal to the 23 00:01:22,470 --> 00:01:27,960 biggest reality show in the universe. And numbers. And this 24 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:34,170 and this woman is Palin mania is what I predicted Palin mania. 25 00:01:34,830 --> 00:01:38,460 And may I say we are all going to die when she is vice 26 00:01:38,460 --> 00:01:43,320 president. But halen mania. This was fantastic. What a great 27 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:44,130 show. 28 00:01:44,250 --> 00:01:48,450 Well, okay, so let's let's start analysing this thing. When 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,850 I got it. I took I took a shitload of notes. I just 30 00:01:50,850 --> 00:01:51,720 couldn't stop. 31 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:59,310 Well, let me start with some note. Well, okay, but let's get 32 00:01:59,310 --> 00:02:02,490 a little overview because I got my notes are probably different 33 00:02:02,490 --> 00:02:04,080 than yours. what channel you're watching it on. 34 00:02:04,259 --> 00:02:08,039 As last time I watched it on CNBC, I watched nothing of the 35 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:11,729 run up. I only watched from the very beginning. 36 00:02:12,060 --> 00:02:15,750 Okay. Same here and but I watched a lot of the after 37 00:02:15,750 --> 00:02:18,060 shows, and you did too, even though you didn't want to admit 38 00:02:18,060 --> 00:02:18,510 it. I 39 00:02:18,539 --> 00:02:21,779 honestly, I just switched around because I wanted to see Rachel 40 00:02:21,779 --> 00:02:25,739 whatever her name is on MSNBC, Rachael Ray, known how Rachael 41 00:02:25,739 --> 00:02:28,829 Ray, you know, Sarah can cook you know, the one we were 42 00:02:28,829 --> 00:02:31,769 talking about earlier today? That one Yeah. Okay, that one 43 00:02:31,859 --> 00:02:35,639 did that one. So I just had to because she was so smug 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,679 yesterday playing video of Sarah Palin playing a flute. And I 45 00:02:40,679 --> 00:02:45,239 just had to see what she picked out as, as the as the bad points 46 00:02:45,239 --> 00:02:45,479 of 47 00:02:45,509 --> 00:02:50,459 we ran that flute video on the dvorak.org/blog site that people 48 00:02:50,459 --> 00:02:55,229 say all the comments were the same. I wish he was playing my 49 00:02:55,229 --> 00:02:55,649 flute. 50 00:02:56,580 --> 00:03:00,870 That's Hey, John. That's our audience. Unbelievable. 51 00:03:02,490 --> 00:03:03,930 shamed of this is my 52 00:03:03,930 --> 00:03:07,770 point, John, this is my exact point. This is what the audience 53 00:03:07,770 --> 00:03:12,240 wants. I'm telling you what Sarah Palin did this evening. It 54 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,030 was unprecedented. You won't hear this on mainstream media. 55 00:03:15,030 --> 00:03:18,630 No one's gonna admit this, maybe Fox, but it was unprecedented. 56 00:03:19,050 --> 00:03:22,440 The acting performance, of course, politics being show 57 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,890 business for Ugly people, the mould has been broken. Because 58 00:03:25,890 --> 00:03:29,820 Sarah Palin is beautiful. She's stunning. She delivered all the 59 00:03:29,820 --> 00:03:33,570 lines. She knew what to say. She lost it a little bit there when 60 00:03:33,570 --> 00:03:36,300 Joe choked up, but she claimed 61 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,330 to show choking up thing and by the way, at the beginning of the 62 00:03:39,330 --> 00:03:42,750 show, and I'm watching it on HD and a big on by man, I'm using 63 00:03:42,750 --> 00:03:46,860 the projector so there's a 10 foot screen. She was visibly 64 00:03:46,860 --> 00:03:50,820 shaking. Yeah, for the first five or 10 minutes. Yeah. And 65 00:03:50,820 --> 00:03:54,330 I've worked with people on TV and it was a tight, she was 66 00:03:54,330 --> 00:03:57,480 generally speaking, you can't see it. And most people wouldn't 67 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,480 have noticed it. But when you're sitting and generally, unless 68 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,370 you're sitting there with the person, you won't see it because 69 00:04:02,370 --> 00:04:04,620 I've seen people shaking like a leaf, but it doesn't show up on 70 00:04:04,620 --> 00:04:09,900 TV. But with HD with a 10 foot screen. You see it? 71 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,510 Well, you know, that wasn't visible, but I totally believe 72 00:04:12,510 --> 00:04:14,430 it. She was wound up tight. 73 00:04:14,790 --> 00:04:18,810 Yeah, she was she relaxed about 1520 minutes into it, by the 74 00:04:18,810 --> 00:04:21,390 way. And the thing and before we get into our little discussion 75 00:04:21,390 --> 00:04:23,700 here, I want to mention this, that the woman that was the 76 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:26,550 moderator Yeah. When I controversial, my 77 00:04:26,580 --> 00:04:30,000 moderator I understand, right? Yes, because she has a book 78 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,010 coming out called Obama world or Obama nation or the Obamas 79 00:04:35,010 --> 00:04:38,130 something or other I presume it's a pro Obama book. It's 80 00:04:38,130 --> 00:04:42,750 she's a total Obama nut. She had to back off and she and she did 81 00:04:42,750 --> 00:04:45,360 a really good job until about 12 minutes. 82 00:04:45,390 --> 00:04:48,120 We have Wait a minute. I know I have the note here somewhere. 83 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,480 She she had a couple of zingers that were so anti Palin which 84 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,380 one was the heartbeat away? That was that was later than 12 85 00:04:55,380 --> 00:04:56,190 minutes. That's all 86 00:04:56,190 --> 00:04:58,530 I know that when I'm not saying 12 And that was 12 minutes after 87 00:04:58,530 --> 00:05:02,640 the hour. Right? Okay, it was at a totally total 88 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,780 sharp jump. And there was another one. There was another 89 00:05:07,620 --> 00:05:11,340 meme that she threw out there. Which one was it? I'm looking 90 00:05:11,340 --> 00:05:12,210 for it. Well, you have 91 00:05:12,210 --> 00:05:15,690 it in your notes. But yeah, but let's start a heartbeat away. 92 00:05:16,110 --> 00:05:17,970 Let's just deconstruct it. What was that? 93 00:05:18,180 --> 00:05:20,820 That you mean? The the one heartbeat away? Yeah, that's 94 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:21,180 what that 95 00:05:21,180 --> 00:05:24,120 was a 12 minutes after seven. Yeah. And it took that I thought 96 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,180 it was that I thought that was the real one that she threw in 97 00:05:27,420 --> 00:05:30,480 the wood Palin, I would hope she was a little more aggressive 98 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,490 than she is. And she should have said, you know, that's a funny 99 00:05:32,490 --> 00:05:35,070 question. You should ask that. Because I, you know, this would 100 00:05:35,070 --> 00:05:38,160 be really cool if you like, if she was like a coach type. I've 101 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,320 been looking over every president, vice president, 102 00:05:40,740 --> 00:05:45,690 presidential debates since 1930. And no one's ever asked that 103 00:05:45,690 --> 00:05:49,410 question before. Is this like some sort of an insult or I 104 00:05:49,410 --> 00:05:51,630 mean, you'll just like, throw it back? I mean, I'm sure would 105 00:05:51,630 --> 00:05:52,950 have gone over with a lot of people. 106 00:05:53,010 --> 00:05:56,190 Well, I tell you that in that case, I actually believe that 107 00:05:56,220 --> 00:06:00,300 when she was training, they didn't think about the audacity 108 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:03,120 of the moderator actually asking that question. Because 109 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,090 otherwise, she would have had a super one liner because man, she 110 00:06:06,090 --> 00:06:08,280 had him she had frickin zingers. 111 00:06:08,610 --> 00:06:13,260 But she, there was a one liner waiting to happen with that one 112 00:06:13,260 --> 00:06:17,490 heartbeat away question, especially the fact when Gwen 113 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,980 Eifel has a book on Obama, a pro Obama book coming out in the 114 00:06:22,980 --> 00:06:26,790 months ahead. And she has she's a, this is a total conflict of 115 00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:30,270 interest situation, that they only kind of glossed over on 116 00:06:30,270 --> 00:06:32,850 these different channels. But no, but but as far as I'm 117 00:06:32,850 --> 00:06:36,960 concerned, hey, if I'm producing this type of material, this this 118 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,290 kind of show for a national audience. She's off the show. 119 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:45,480 Yes, you you. Exactly. And you know what? You're talking about 120 00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:48,300 this show. This is the way it's supposed to be built up, man. 121 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:51,450 This thing was scripted. Are you crazy? This was fantastic. From 122 00:06:51,450 --> 00:06:54,270 beginning to end, everything was put together. And even the 123 00:06:54,270 --> 00:06:57,210 sympathy laugh for Biden, when he when he cracked the ultimate 124 00:06:57,210 --> 00:06:59,910 bridge to nowhere. I joke that was the other shark jump? 125 00:07:00,689 --> 00:07:03,209 Well, there's a couple Okay, well, going on with your list of 126 00:07:03,419 --> 00:07:04,259 I know, it's too long. 127 00:07:04,290 --> 00:07:06,330 It's too long. It's just way too long. 128 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,240 But my is not too long, because I only was only one. I'm, like, 129 00:07:09,270 --> 00:07:13,620 irked that I jumped in, let's go over what happened on CNN and 130 00:07:13,620 --> 00:07:16,710 what you didn't watch. And I did, but you again had the 131 00:07:16,710 --> 00:07:20,820 little graph thing that they changed it. And what bugged me 132 00:07:20,820 --> 00:07:25,260 is when I first saw the change, I went, what is this bullshit? 133 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:26,880 What was the change? 134 00:07:27,420 --> 00:07:31,380 They changed it from Democrats, Republicans and independents to 135 00:07:31,380 --> 00:07:34,890 men and women in Ohio. 136 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:41,100 What? And that was it that was oh, man, they punted. They 137 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:43,650 totally punted. They knew they know what they knew the time 138 00:07:43,650 --> 00:07:46,920 bomb was coming. They got word of it. Well, you know why? 139 00:07:46,950 --> 00:07:50,880 Because Joey Danko, Biden's middle class friend clued him 140 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:51,480 into it. 141 00:07:52,140 --> 00:07:55,470 Well, you know what, then I hate to say, You know what, because 142 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,590 really, we asked, you know what, and I actually wrote it. I hate 143 00:07:58,590 --> 00:08:02,430 that. But by the way, I wrote a column in of all places, human 144 00:08:02,430 --> 00:08:05,940 events about saying, you know, what, versus guess what was just 145 00:08:05,940 --> 00:08:09,450 things 12 year old say, and Biden, and I was criticising the 146 00:08:09,450 --> 00:08:12,180 Democrats are saying, You know what, you know what? And then. 147 00:08:12,930 --> 00:08:16,170 And then I said, it's worse than Oh, it's not as bad as when 148 00:08:16,170 --> 00:08:18,840 you're 10. And a kid every time they talk to you to say, Guess 149 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,990 what? Guess what? Guess what? My daughter does that all the time? 150 00:08:22,020 --> 00:08:26,190 Yeah. We've talked about this before. Yeah, she stopped doing 151 00:08:26,190 --> 00:08:32,280 it now. You know. But Biden kept saying, guess what, like a 12 152 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:32,640 year old 153 00:08:32,670 --> 00:08:36,630 in his closing remarks even start off by saying, Look, I was 154 00:08:36,630 --> 00:08:38,580 like, whoa, whoa, 155 00:08:39,570 --> 00:08:41,280 get back to this thing with the 156 00:08:41,309 --> 00:08:42,449 so that's 157 00:08:44,069 --> 00:08:48,569 stop. I like this better, because it really be the feeling 158 00:08:48,569 --> 00:08:50,879 for the independence. But it shows you the difference between 159 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:54,269 men and women. How was that? I don't want to be critical here. 160 00:08:54,269 --> 00:08:58,289 But the women totally loved her. Right? They No, no, it wasn't 161 00:08:58,289 --> 00:09:01,589 the women loving her. It was the point that women went up and the 162 00:09:01,589 --> 00:09:04,889 men went down. I think they should take the vote away from 163 00:09:04,889 --> 00:09:05,249 women. 164 00:09:05,729 --> 00:09:11,009 Oh, my God. Okay, John. Now, listen, listen, my friend, my 165 00:09:11,009 --> 00:09:13,469 wife would probably agree with but it's just women in Ohio. 166 00:09:13,499 --> 00:09:14,879 It's just women in Ohio. 167 00:09:15,629 --> 00:09:16,589 Well, that cannot be 168 00:09:16,590 --> 00:09:20,220 representative of women. And it's not representative of those 169 00:09:20,250 --> 00:09:21,900 East Coast politicians. 170 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:28,620 Now looking at the way the graph when Palin early on was the only 171 00:09:28,620 --> 00:09:32,910 one. And this didn't even happen in the previous debate. She 172 00:09:32,910 --> 00:09:38,490 pinned the needle with both men and women, which means the 100% 173 00:09:38,490 --> 00:09:42,750 margin was pinned. Yeah, you know, Biden pinned the needle 174 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:47,040 two or three times with men or women one of the two but never 175 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,150 with both. And it was when she went on and on about personal 176 00:09:51,150 --> 00:09:55,200 responsibility. We should know what you know, our parents told 177 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,870 us to be good people and we should do this and that it was 178 00:09:57,870 --> 00:10:01,140 just that just buried it was unbuilt. lino Fantastic. 179 00:10:01,140 --> 00:10:05,160 Well, first of all, a couple of general general comments, it was 180 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,440 a really read set, which of course, you know that you know, 181 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,280 all this stuff, you know, this, this show is all. You know, they 182 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,770 say they agree to stuff but basically the producer comes in 183 00:10:13,770 --> 00:10:15,600 says, Okay, here's what you're going to wear, here's what 184 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,850 you're going to wear. And then maybe a little bit of debate 185 00:10:17,850 --> 00:10:20,190 back and forth. And yeah, so she couldn't wear a red powered 186 00:10:20,190 --> 00:10:23,460 dress, but I thought she was she was dressed very well. It was 187 00:10:23,910 --> 00:10:28,560 just, she looked spectacular. And, and when she opened first 188 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:30,690 of all to Hello, can I call you Joe? By the way, she didn't call 189 00:10:30,690 --> 00:10:33,690 him Joe, once during the entire debate. So and wait 190 00:10:33,690 --> 00:10:38,340 a minute, wait a minute. Her mic was open. And Biden's wasn't 191 00:10:38,340 --> 00:10:39,210 what was that all 192 00:10:39,210 --> 00:10:42,840 the way on us? Not on CNBC. I could hear him. You heard 193 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,370 him. I heard him very. I heard him on her. Like, that's but 194 00:10:47,370 --> 00:10:51,690 what did he say? He said, Well, yeah, you can. Like she was 195 00:10:51,690 --> 00:10:54,540 saying, Can I Can I call you jokes are like really loud. Then 196 00:10:54,540 --> 00:10:57,270 you heard him say? Hello, comments through her mic. 197 00:10:57,300 --> 00:11:00,330 Can I call you, Joe? And actually Biden, you could hear 198 00:11:00,330 --> 00:11:04,770 him audibly. Inhaling a couple of times during the debate, 199 00:11:04,770 --> 00:11:09,180 like, afterward finish, because 90 seconds you can go. I was 200 00:11:09,180 --> 00:11:11,670 like, Whoa, man, the guy is like, either, you know, he's 201 00:11:11,670 --> 00:11:14,130 like, really trying to keep himself in check. There. It was. 202 00:11:14,460 --> 00:11:15,660 It was a rough time. 203 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:21,030 Biden was fantastic. I'm sure. No, really, I thought he was 204 00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:23,790 fantastic. He didn't go after her. He didn't do anything 205 00:11:23,790 --> 00:11:24,690 really stupid. And 206 00:11:24,690 --> 00:11:28,890 this and honestly, this is it was just it was just a strategy 207 00:11:28,890 --> 00:11:32,100 mistake, because I don't think he expected this. He did not 208 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:36,300 expect her to perform this. Well. I mean, well, yeah. He 209 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:39,180 just didn't. And it took him back because he had already 210 00:11:39,180 --> 00:11:43,110 decided I'm not going to attack Palin and I don't you know, and 211 00:11:43,110 --> 00:11:45,990 of course, of course, he has a much better understanding of 212 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:48,510 what's going on here. He still worked for all the same people, 213 00:11:48,510 --> 00:11:51,930 and we're all gonna die in the end anyway. But that's beside 214 00:11:51,930 --> 00:11:55,410 the point. He was not prepared for that. And so he had he 215 00:11:55,410 --> 00:12:00,480 didn't have anything in his in his arsenal to deal with with 216 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,570 her actually coming out and killing. I mean, absolutely. 217 00:12:03,810 --> 00:12:08,640 Killing No, come on. I mean, but listen, she was so good. She and 218 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,040 she built it up and she got confidence. And then all of a 219 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,450 sudden, she boom, she starts attacking Obama. And, and when 220 00:12:15,450 --> 00:12:18,120 she got a question that she didn't want to answer, John, he 221 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,540 was like, Major League Football Major League Baseball, she ran 222 00:12:21,570 --> 00:12:25,110 note. She ran out the clock. It was like deep ball. She ran up 223 00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:28,110 the clock. I'm like, two or three times I was so Fanta and 224 00:12:28,110 --> 00:12:30,600 Biden couldn't do it. He's like, I'm running out of time. 225 00:12:32,580 --> 00:12:35,550 Sorry, Julie. Actually, I did laminate. I don't think you're 226 00:12:35,550 --> 00:12:38,910 right on one thing, Biden twice during the debates that I 227 00:12:38,910 --> 00:12:42,120 recall, said, Well, I see I'm not I'm gonna be out of time in 228 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,760 a second hour. The red lights blinking was a thing. He said 229 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:48,870 another time, which was an excuse to let him ramble on I 230 00:12:48,870 --> 00:12:52,530 would like to do a stopwatch on the two of them in that debate. 231 00:12:52,530 --> 00:12:55,890 And I'll bet you Biden snuck in more time using that trick. 232 00:12:56,550 --> 00:13:00,240 Yes, he did. He definitely used it a couple times. And the 233 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,870 moderator was not very tight on on time at all. And I just want 234 00:13:03,870 --> 00:13:06,930 to remind our listeners that you know, I'm a total 235 00:13:06,930 --> 00:13:09,720 constitutionalist, I wouldn't vote for either one of these, 236 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:15,360 these actors who are cast this evening before you. This is 237 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:20,010 truly the largest reality show in the world. And I am extremely 238 00:13:20,010 --> 00:13:24,420 delighted because now that I have been proven that this is 239 00:13:24,660 --> 00:13:28,410 one big show, now I can start predicting exactly what you're 240 00:13:28,410 --> 00:13:30,540 going to see along the line, it's really going to be 241 00:13:30,540 --> 00:13:33,450 extremely easy for me. And you know, if this was Steven 242 00:13:33,450 --> 00:13:37,320 Spielberg or Steven bochco, or whoever actually is behind the 243 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:43,050 production of this of this show, a totally This is outrageously 244 00:13:43,260 --> 00:13:48,540 entertaining. I, you know, I if anything, is been my job to try 245 00:13:48,540 --> 00:13:52,470 and understand what people want to watch and this was, this was 246 00:13:52,470 --> 00:13:52,920 enough 247 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,660 of that. Let's talk more about this thing. So so it's like 248 00:13:57,660 --> 00:13:57,990 drill, 249 00:13:58,020 --> 00:14:00,030 baby drill. Oh, my God. 250 00:14:01,110 --> 00:14:06,780 Orgasm. Orgasm drill, drill, drill, drill, baby, drill, baby 251 00:14:06,780 --> 00:14:07,860 drill, you idiot. 252 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,820 But I mean, think of the connotations of is drill drill 253 00:14:11,820 --> 00:14:15,270 drill and now it's drill baby drill or drill Me Baby Drill me 254 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,630 and then he's saying bushes, bushes, bushes. I'm just hearing 255 00:14:18,630 --> 00:14:21,540 Beavis and Butthead going he said the bushes 256 00:14:23,190 --> 00:14:25,560 was drill Gillis It was fabulous. 257 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,710 Well that was funny You're right. Now let's go back to the 258 00:14:28,710 --> 00:14:31,410 thing that you mentioned about him getting caught off guard now 259 00:14:31,410 --> 00:14:34,650 this I have on my notes but this is at the end of the notes and 260 00:14:34,650 --> 00:14:38,490 this is part of the post mortem that was done on Fox I watched 261 00:14:38,490 --> 00:14:42,900 the post mortem on C and N and the funny thing is the one woman 262 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:45,900 on there that really annoys me to no end is this Hilary Rosen 263 00:14:46,050 --> 00:14:50,160 on CNN. You know her she was the art she was able to RIA 264 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,100 Oh yeah, she's Yes, of course we do. Yeah, 265 00:14:53,219 --> 00:14:59,879 she's a she's a creep to the nth. And she hates Palin and it 266 00:14:59,879 --> 00:15:03,149 will Send her analysis is useless. This woman shouldn't 267 00:15:03,149 --> 00:15:07,709 even be on television. Anyway. I mean, even Paul Begala, who is a 268 00:15:07,709 --> 00:15:10,979 Clinton guy, and a total Democrat apologist, at least had 269 00:15:10,979 --> 00:15:13,949 a couple of good things to say Hillary wouldn't do it. And it 270 00:15:13,949 --> 00:15:17,459 magala said, for example, that he thought she sucked, but but 271 00:15:17,459 --> 00:15:20,249 she was building up for sale for the 2012 campaign, which I 272 00:15:20,249 --> 00:15:22,319 thought was interesting. They did make that observation, 273 00:15:22,319 --> 00:15:25,229 meaning that Obama can't make it through to elections. Anyway, 274 00:15:25,349 --> 00:15:28,949 the guy on Fox was Frank Luntz, who is the guy. 275 00:15:29,550 --> 00:15:32,070 Biden mentioned him a couple of times, right? No, no. And he 276 00:15:32,070 --> 00:15:33,480 said, lugar, no, I'm sorry. 277 00:15:33,570 --> 00:15:37,140 No, Frank lunch is a polar pollster who works for the 278 00:15:37,140 --> 00:15:39,780 Republicans. And he does all the year where they strap you to, 279 00:15:40,020 --> 00:15:42,420 you know, lie detectors and all this other stuff. Now, that's 280 00:15:42,420 --> 00:15:51,630 hot, and he should be sorry. And he found that the the whole 281 00:15:51,630 --> 00:15:55,020 group of nine, the people that were undecided, everybody, 282 00:15:55,020 --> 00:15:58,140 thought Palin, one, everybody. And he claimed, by the way, at 283 00:15:58,140 --> 00:16:00,810 the end that the polls are going to reflect this, and it's put 284 00:16:00,810 --> 00:16:04,620 McCain back into the race, which makes me think, can you imagine 285 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:08,250 Sarah Palin actually saves the election? 286 00:16:08,339 --> 00:16:12,479 Yes, no, no, I 100%. Can I got to think through what the next 287 00:16:12,479 --> 00:16:17,669 day on Tuesday we have the next Obama or bush? I mean, Biden 288 00:16:17,669 --> 00:16:20,729 couldn't pronounce Obama's name 15 times out the entire debate. 289 00:16:20,729 --> 00:16:22,409 He kept tripping over his name. 290 00:16:22,530 --> 00:16:25,380 That was weird. Well, let's go back. Let's go back. I want to 291 00:16:25,380 --> 00:16:28,080 this is the part I want to talk about. And this is really 292 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,710 interesting. When this came up, I was going, Yeah, that's 293 00:16:31,710 --> 00:16:36,390 interesting. And it what it was, is that he's that that one woman 294 00:16:36,390 --> 00:16:40,860 came out and said that one of the reasons Palin one for her 295 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,580 was that Palin wasn't expected to do this good based on her 296 00:16:44,580 --> 00:16:49,890 performance with Katie Couric. Yeah. And a woman made, which 297 00:16:49,890 --> 00:16:53,430 makes me think that Katie Couric has actually helped the 298 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:54,930 election. Ironically, 299 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,740 John, how many times do I have to say that in the script, page 300 00:16:58,740 --> 00:16:59,490 15. 301 00:16:59,550 --> 00:17:03,330 Now let me finish this with what she does woman said, she hinted 302 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,560 that the reason she was so shocked by the change that fact 303 00:17:07,620 --> 00:17:10,800 Palin was good here, and she sucked with cart Couric. And 304 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,180 this is extremely important for people out there, eavesdropping 305 00:17:15,180 --> 00:17:19,860 on this conversation. She hinted that with the Couric interview, 306 00:17:20,700 --> 00:17:26,430 it was edited to make Palin look bad. Oh, absolutely. is an 307 00:17:26,460 --> 00:17:32,100 attack on the media. Yes, that is, I think in the public domain 308 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:36,150 right now. It's a meme. Everybody thinks the media is 309 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:39,870 corrupt to such an extreme that they're trying to throw this 310 00:17:39,900 --> 00:17:42,390 election, I think the public is just 311 00:17:42,450 --> 00:17:45,180 not going to put up yep. And they're catching? Absolutely. 312 00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:48,990 They're totally catching on. And what we don't really think too 313 00:17:48,990 --> 00:17:53,130 much about is that television has been, as you know, the main 314 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,870 communicator in terms of public perception of almost nearly 315 00:17:57,900 --> 00:18:03,810 mine. 1946, we're talking about 60 plus year, this 316 00:18:03,810 --> 00:18:08,820 is a, this is a learnable, practicable, demonstrable 317 00:18:08,820 --> 00:18:13,110 science that you can programme people's minds to buy things. We 318 00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:16,260 choose our presidents the same way we buy our washing powder, 319 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,280 and people 320 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,300 are clued in. I don't think they're complete robots out 321 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:25,140 there, they see that this is going on, they can spot a scam, 322 00:18:25,260 --> 00:18:28,860 they can spot a crappy product, they spot all this stuff. That's 323 00:18:28,860 --> 00:18:32,220 why they you know, cost per 1000 is so you know what it is? In 324 00:18:32,220 --> 00:18:35,280 terms of advertising, because unless you do your job 325 00:18:36,030 --> 00:18:39,270 perfectly, and you're not doing it if you look like you're on 326 00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:43,650 one. Like for example, Katie Couric is supposed to be an 327 00:18:43,650 --> 00:18:47,070 objective journalist. In that old school, where you're even 328 00:18:47,070 --> 00:18:50,400 handed you don't find somebody's weak point and then grind down 329 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,400 and grind down to the prisons and basically, 330 00:18:53,399 --> 00:18:57,059 specifically, what newspapers do you read specifically, what do 331 00:18:57,059 --> 00:19:00,479 you mean when a father rapes her his daughters specifically? 332 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:05,160 It's the public spots that a mile away and this woman 333 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,190 reflected that in this entire audience at lunch had, which was 334 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:12,150 a focus group, essentially real time focus group was like, they 335 00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:14,310 weren't they except there's a couple you know, obviously, 336 00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:17,100 there's I can't have 100% But there's a couple Yeah, I don't 337 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:22,530 know. I didn't like her. But because, you know, a county that 338 00:19:22,530 --> 00:19:25,080 Lancashire miser, my third girlfriend who dumped me. 339 00:19:26,250 --> 00:19:28,530 Can I just counter that for a second? I have to disagree. 340 00:19:28,530 --> 00:19:34,380 Respectfully, John. That, yes, people are on to it, but with 341 00:19:34,380 --> 00:19:38,520 this particular debate, and you know, obviously, Palin McCain 342 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,060 stance on her and boy, she was it was so brilliant to say, I'm 343 00:19:42,060 --> 00:19:45,570 going to talk straight to you and I want to say it, and for 344 00:19:45,570 --> 00:19:48,450 all intents and purposes, she actually said something, but it 345 00:19:48,450 --> 00:19:52,920 sounded really, it sounded really straight. Okay, this was 346 00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:57,390 game changing, rule changing. And 347 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,110 now I know I look, I know what you're saying, what you're 348 00:20:01,110 --> 00:20:01,950 saying is that 349 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,900 I'm saying that America, your 350 00:20:05,460 --> 00:20:08,520 what you're saying is, is going to be worse than ever? Yes, 351 00:20:08,550 --> 00:20:11,100 of course, I'm saying that we're all gonna die. But the point is, 352 00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:14,520 you're saying that the public is onto it. And I have to disagree. 353 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,580 And it's not because the when they think about it, yes, of 354 00:20:17,580 --> 00:20:21,480 course they can they can. They understand that quite quickly. 355 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,560 That's the awakening that I think is taking place. But this 356 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,870 was of a format that is so recognisable. This is, this is 357 00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:35,040 what American Idol did to the gong show. Okay, it took it to a 358 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,700 whole nother level and people are getting sucked into it. They 359 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:42,030 are getting sucked in really, really deep and FoxNews will 360 00:20:42,030 --> 00:20:45,570 propagate that. And you know, she's a hero. And there you go, 361 00:20:45,570 --> 00:20:49,290 Joe, you know, I mean, might say it ain't so Joe. I mean, my God, 362 00:20:49,290 --> 00:20:53,130 this was this was just absolutely brilliant. A time 363 00:20:53,130 --> 00:20:57,570 bomb, an absolute timebomb. And I agree, I think it puts McCain 364 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,190 ahead of Obama and I bet you that the Obama trolls are going 365 00:21:02,190 --> 00:21:04,230 to be pissed off? 366 00:21:05,549 --> 00:21:08,099 No, I think it's going to be I think they are going to be a 367 00:21:08,099 --> 00:21:10,229 little intimidated, because they're going to be in denial 368 00:21:10,229 --> 00:21:13,349 like this Hillary Rosen woman who gave you know, they had 369 00:21:13,349 --> 00:21:16,019 these points, things going on with these different people. And 370 00:21:16,019 --> 00:21:19,589 she wouldn't give Palin credit for one positive thing. And if 371 00:21:19,589 --> 00:21:22,559 she did, she gave him four negative votes. I mean, it was 372 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:27,419 unbelievable. There is a certain denial out there. I mean, they 373 00:21:27,419 --> 00:21:31,769 this Palin thing is like, got these guys really spooked. And 374 00:21:31,769 --> 00:21:35,009 they're freaked about it. And it's like, they hate her. And 375 00:21:35,009 --> 00:21:37,289 what she did and there were Democrats are always the love 376 00:21:37,289 --> 00:21:41,219 love people. And they hate hate. I mean, you know, I don't get 377 00:21:41,219 --> 00:21:41,399 it. 378 00:21:42,450 --> 00:21:45,000 Just looking through through my notes that that that actually 379 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,470 they did cover quite a large array of topics. Boy, the Israel 380 00:21:49,470 --> 00:21:52,950 stuff was hot and heavy man, that was, that was pretty 381 00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:56,340 amazing. What I just waited for one of them to say, one of my 382 00:21:56,340 --> 00:21:59,250 best friends is Jewish. I mean, that's all that's all that was 383 00:21:59,250 --> 00:22:03,870 missing away from it. They really got so close. And, and 384 00:22:03,870 --> 00:22:08,280 then Palin. I mean, this, this is so skillfully done her 385 00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:12,240 hammering I'm adeno jot for Yeah, and she's propagating 386 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,540 lies. I mean, he did not say the rotting corpse of Israel, you 387 00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:19,620 know, maybe he it's all an interpretation and translation. 388 00:22:19,620 --> 00:22:21,540 It's all stupid. Well, let's 389 00:22:21,539 --> 00:22:25,109 go back to the main themes, the underlying themes that they were 390 00:22:25,109 --> 00:22:29,249 obviously trying to do. And I thought were Palin did well, at 391 00:22:29,249 --> 00:22:35,219 least on a kind of a subtext, is Biden, better than Obama? And I 392 00:22:35,219 --> 00:22:37,979 actually liked Biden in this debate. I think he was he's a 393 00:22:37,979 --> 00:22:40,979 very personable guy, and he was, you know, he's magnanimous in a 394 00:22:40,979 --> 00:22:44,009 lot of different ways. It's a big smile, totally a political 395 00:22:44,069 --> 00:22:47,009 animal. And, you know, I was hoping to do and he went on with 396 00:22:47,009 --> 00:22:50,639 when I, you know, Scranton, Scranton, Pennsylvania, he'd say 397 00:22:50,699 --> 00:22:54,539 that she'd say, Joe, using the word Joe, Joe, Joe, when was the 398 00:22:54,539 --> 00:22:57,569 last time you you actually lived in Scranton, 399 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,750 you know, but he also used 40 years ago, there were some 400 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:03,270 script changes I would have made. So I wouldn't have had him 401 00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:05,490 same addresses because no one knows what the fuck them 402 00:23:05,490 --> 00:23:09,000 addresses Exactly. What the hell is that all about? I mean, he 403 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,030 was really and you had a certain point, you could tell about half 404 00:23:12,030 --> 00:23:14,610 an hour into that they both kind of like ran out of material, and 405 00:23:14,610 --> 00:23:16,680 they had to kind of pick it up. And then 406 00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:20,219 now he lost a crowd and a couple of these crazy things like that. 407 00:23:21,269 --> 00:23:25,139 Now, let's go back, Biden better than Obama, as I was saying, 408 00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:32,489 linked McCain with Bush, because he harped on it much more. So 409 00:23:32,489 --> 00:23:37,199 then, then then Obama was able to do the Obama can lost the 410 00:23:37,199 --> 00:23:40,109 track on that he was criticised for it by the by the people, 411 00:23:40,139 --> 00:23:45,869 deconstructing is his performance. Now she, they 412 00:23:45,869 --> 00:23:48,269 obviously expect to something like this, because she had this 413 00:23:48,269 --> 00:23:53,009 one interesting approach, which I thought was, was genius, which 414 00:23:53,009 --> 00:23:55,679 was that she called him on that. She says, you know, you guys are 415 00:23:55,679 --> 00:23:58,679 big talkers about the future and change. But you keep pointing to 416 00:23:58,679 --> 00:23:59,459 the past. 417 00:23:59,490 --> 00:24:01,800 Yeah. And there's always a finger pointing to the past. Oh, 418 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,730 yes. Beautiful. 419 00:24:02,790 --> 00:24:05,970 I thought that was like, I was just like, whoa, somebody wrote 420 00:24:05,970 --> 00:24:06,600 that one. 421 00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:09,089 And I think that that was set there. They said, Look, if he 422 00:24:09,089 --> 00:24:11,939 starts talking about Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush and all this other 423 00:24:11,939 --> 00:24:15,269 stuff, by the way, what's 1932? What happened in 1932, that he 424 00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:16,049 referenced that 425 00:24:16,379 --> 00:24:18,179 Roosevelt was elected, okay. 426 00:24:20,010 --> 00:24:23,130 Like, anybody knows that, yeah, that's why I'm asking him like, 427 00:24:23,310 --> 00:24:26,940 what happened in 1932, you know, and he, he threw out some things 428 00:24:26,940 --> 00:24:29,250 that he thought he tried to get around the Bush Doctrine. She 429 00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:33,570 didn't pick up on that. I really, really enjoyed when she 430 00:24:33,570 --> 00:24:35,730 said, yeah, it was it was of course, he's positioning them as 431 00:24:35,730 --> 00:24:38,010 Mavericks. And I think that's what's the big theme is going to 432 00:24:38,010 --> 00:24:39,480 be for McCain on Tuesday. 433 00:24:41,130 --> 00:24:44,370 Oh, wait, wait, wait. Every time she brought that Maverick thing, 434 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,090 the numbers plunged that Maverick thing really done 435 00:24:48,090 --> 00:24:49,590 that's over Okay, up on it. 436 00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:51,360 Alright, so they'll know that so they're going to choose 437 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:55,260 something else I liked. She really positioned herself well 438 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:58,920 by talking about the West Scylla Main Street. So she really 439 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,260 pulled that towards herself. Now that what that was good, that 440 00:25:01,260 --> 00:25:02,100 was really good. It 441 00:25:02,099 --> 00:25:05,159 didn't do much for numbers. Let me go over quickly, they've just 442 00:25:05,459 --> 00:25:10,289 only made a few notes on the numbers going up and down. With 443 00:25:10,289 --> 00:25:13,799 Palin, mainly, Biden had a really interesting thing with 444 00:25:13,829 --> 00:25:17,039 when he talked about drill drill drill is numbers actually went 445 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:17,489 down. 446 00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:20,519 And when she said drill, baby drill, did that go up for the 447 00:25:20,729 --> 00:25:21,659 little bit, but the funny 448 00:25:21,660 --> 00:25:24,360 thing was when Biden talked about we can't drill, drill 449 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:27,120 drill and went down. But we should do some drilling. It went 450 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:30,540 up like big time, really. But yeah, it was energy 451 00:25:30,540 --> 00:25:31,110 independence. 452 00:25:31,109 --> 00:25:33,389 That must have really worked. People must have found love that 453 00:25:33,389 --> 00:25:33,749 well, 454 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:37,110 it worked a little bit. And let me give you an example. Jogging 455 00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:40,890 by the bipartisan partisanship thing didn't work. In fact, it 456 00:25:40,890 --> 00:25:48,060 went down Maverick dog corruption, and greed, big, big, 457 00:25:48,179 --> 00:25:52,529 like, spiking, like through the roof, like oh, yeah, so she, she 458 00:25:52,529 --> 00:25:54,659 was the only one who actually started about the financial 459 00:25:54,659 --> 00:25:57,209 crisis. And she also wound up with it, which I thought was 460 00:25:57,209 --> 00:25:59,159 good, because we kind of got away from that. And it was 461 00:25:59,159 --> 00:25:59,489 finished, 462 00:25:59,490 --> 00:26:03,690 by the way, beat his bad. Hands down by now has been hands down 463 00:26:03,690 --> 00:26:07,140 at the end. Grant is down, hands down. And like going out to a 464 00:26:07,140 --> 00:26:09,990 good meal. The desserts would most people remember. 465 00:26:11,099 --> 00:26:15,119 Yeah, you mean that? You mean the way she has her? Her newborn 466 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,869 kid on her shoulder to 11 at night? And just to be on camera? 467 00:26:18,899 --> 00:26:21,569 I mean, that's pretty much oh, by the way, the lame lame. Oh, 468 00:26:21,569 --> 00:26:24,239 your joke was lame, because no one got it. Oh, man. I thought I 469 00:26:24,239 --> 00:26:25,589 thought it was peeing my pants. 470 00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:29,249 You thought you should check. Oh, the other word 471 00:26:29,460 --> 00:26:33,390 Biden used was, you know, Iran is run by Ahmadinejad is run by 472 00:26:33,390 --> 00:26:36,600 the theocracy. I'm like, oh, man, no one knows what that is. 473 00:26:39,630 --> 00:26:40,590 Inside base 474 00:26:40,859 --> 00:26:43,259 Yeah. And it's not an evil name. You know, you've got to say like 475 00:26:43,259 --> 00:26:46,589 the evil Ayatollah, you know, that's the kind of stuff not not 476 00:26:46,589 --> 00:26:49,739 the theocracy, that doesn't get them and by the way, a lot of 477 00:26:49,739 --> 00:26:52,139 what he said I gotta agree with even though I know that the 478 00:26:52,139 --> 00:26:55,049 people who really run everything are out to kill us on both 479 00:26:55,049 --> 00:27:00,539 sides. But seriously, but this as a show. This was I mean, God 480 00:27:00,539 --> 00:27:03,539 bless American television Gods bless it. 481 00:27:03,929 --> 00:27:07,319 You know, it was good, but it wasn't great. I like to see what 482 00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:08,549 the overnights are anywhere 483 00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:12,419 gonna be huge, huge. You know what, it was just so nice. And 484 00:27:12,419 --> 00:27:16,229 it was so because everyone look they started off okay, even 485 00:27:16,229 --> 00:27:18,809 David Letterman last night was saying are you all excited about 486 00:27:18,809 --> 00:27:21,629 the debate this thing is living man this thing is like it's like 487 00:27:21,629 --> 00:27:24,689 a hit record you know, it's just bubbling under and then even 488 00:27:24,689 --> 00:27:28,829 CNBC opens up with well literally Welcome to the main 489 00:27:28,829 --> 00:27:31,709 event. I'm not kidding you. And then we're gonna have pre and 490 00:27:31,709 --> 00:27:34,829 post game analysis these are direct quotes. I wrote them down 491 00:27:35,159 --> 00:27:38,099 you know, and then at the end, Aaron, I think yeah, not Aaron 492 00:27:38,099 --> 00:27:41,399 the the other girl on CNBC she says, Okay, let's get your 493 00:27:41,399 --> 00:27:46,739 popcorn, CNBC. And this is a business channel. This was 494 00:27:46,739 --> 00:27:50,039 highly anticipated. I'm predicting 40 million plus 495 00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:50,669 viewers 496 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,830 will add is the record that was set by Reagan and Carter. Was 497 00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:58,650 that the final the final event? They had more than 40 On the 498 00:27:58,650 --> 00:28:03,390 last one so I think it's more 6575 Maybe 80 It's going to be 499 00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:06,720 hard and a lot 140 Okay, so here's a couple of other things 500 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,330 that bomb this is the one that is really interesting that bomb 501 00:28:09,330 --> 00:28:13,950 that I think caught everyone off guard. She says hockey mom down 502 00:28:13,980 --> 00:28:15,120 into the tank. 503 00:28:16,170 --> 00:28:17,310 I didn't catch that one. 504 00:28:17,339 --> 00:28:22,499 I had to see the chart when she talked about interesting. So 505 00:28:22,499 --> 00:28:25,139 yeah, I thought that was weird. When she talked about parents 506 00:28:25,139 --> 00:28:28,229 and personal responsibility, parenting and personal 507 00:28:28,229 --> 00:28:32,459 responsibility and we needed it spiked everybody she just the 508 00:28:32,459 --> 00:28:36,149 only time and both of Bates at both people were spiked to the 509 00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:40,049 max How about education? She won because of that. How 510 00:28:40,049 --> 00:28:42,299 about education John? How did that do it? 511 00:28:42,299 --> 00:28:47,249 No education moved it up but nothing like that. This really I 512 00:28:47,249 --> 00:28:50,789 mean, it was like holy crap. If she had stayed on that for about 513 00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:55,019 five minutes it would have been she did they just by acclamation 514 00:28:55,019 --> 00:28:58,109 would have given her the job. The other one that the real 515 00:28:58,109 --> 00:29:01,709 loser, the loser that she kept harping on and even when Biden 516 00:29:01,709 --> 00:29:05,609 kind of got into it was a total disaster and makes you know, for 517 00:29:05,609 --> 00:29:10,829 a fact that the US a public does not like this war in Iraq, she 518 00:29:10,829 --> 00:29:13,499 talks starts talking about the troops and get you know this and 519 00:29:13,499 --> 00:29:16,049 that and work, right? People hate that when she brings up 520 00:29:16,049 --> 00:29:19,799 getting out or something like that it goes goes in the toilet 521 00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:23,279 when either one of them talking about extending this war for one 522 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:24,329 more minute. 523 00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:28,589 Yeah. Hell yeah. And same with Afghanistan, right? Because 524 00:29:28,589 --> 00:29:30,989 that's the big trick here. I mean, it's so obvious. It's 525 00:29:30,989 --> 00:29:33,839 like, we're gonna go get to nothing. Yeah, we're gonna end 526 00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:36,809 the war in Iraq, and we're gonna send all the troops to 527 00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:39,869 Afghanistan, we're just changing to another place. I mean, it's, 528 00:29:40,169 --> 00:29:43,409 it's just moving the same in military industrial complex to 529 00:29:43,409 --> 00:29:46,499 another country, which happens to have a fantastic natural 530 00:29:46,499 --> 00:29:50,669 resource of drugs, that they can also make money on shipping it 531 00:29:50,669 --> 00:29:54,869 through Wall Street. So now, I'm sorry, I get carried away. Can I 532 00:29:54,869 --> 00:29:58,109 just say though, another fantastic, beautiful moment. 533 00:29:58,349 --> 00:30:02,879 This was a Miss America moment. When Sarah Palin was that she 534 00:30:02,879 --> 00:30:06,089 was actually saving poor black kids and dark for hurt herself. 535 00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:09,749 I mean, it was just so moving. She completely nailed that one. 536 00:30:10,619 --> 00:30:14,279 Well, she was she did the right thing with the with her 537 00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:18,419 response. Now, here's the one where Biden, Biden loses when 538 00:30:18,419 --> 00:30:20,489 they talk about drill drill drill he get when he starts 539 00:30:20,489 --> 00:30:22,979 taking, you know, especially with the men, they just go into 540 00:30:22,979 --> 00:30:25,499 the tank. So they these guys have got a problem with that 541 00:30:25,649 --> 00:30:30,029 issue. And by the way, when anyone talks about nuclear power 542 00:30:30,869 --> 00:30:34,349 down, the women go into the toilet, and the men go way up. 543 00:30:34,349 --> 00:30:39,149 This is like hilarious on all these green and all these kinds 544 00:30:39,149 --> 00:30:42,749 of knee jerk themes are still the women are way into it. And 545 00:30:42,749 --> 00:30:44,879 the men are like, now this is bull. 546 00:30:44,910 --> 00:30:48,060 Well, green, and the whole thing is being marketed to women. Of 547 00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:48,600 course, 548 00:30:48,629 --> 00:30:53,339 apparently, yeah. Anyway, the big spike, one of the big spikes 549 00:30:53,339 --> 00:30:56,189 for Biden is when he starts talking about getting out of a 550 00:30:56,189 --> 00:30:57,479 rat. Yeah, of course, 551 00:30:57,510 --> 00:31:00,240 the American people want to get out of the all these countries, 552 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,490 of course, they're just being shafted. They don't understand 553 00:31:02,490 --> 00:31:05,970 that yet. But yeah, of course they do. I think that's good. 554 00:31:05,970 --> 00:31:08,640 So, but they can't, neither of them can really adjust their 555 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,410 strategies on that in the public eyes. 556 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,910 You know, the thing is, again, like the last one, they whenever 557 00:31:14,910 --> 00:31:17,790 they go on the attack, the numbers go down. And when 558 00:31:17,790 --> 00:31:22,320 they're all you know, with just the idealistic crap, bow, it is 559 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,230 a great country, and we hear that we need to improve our 560 00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:28,470 education because we're the leaders and this guy, boom, up 561 00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:31,290 and goes, so the public is looking for that kind of thing. 562 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:31,770 Well, we're, 563 00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:35,489 it's called nationalism, John. Yes, exactly. And we're very 564 00:31:35,489 --> 00:31:36,209 nationalistic 565 00:31:36,210 --> 00:31:38,940 and they want to play that game. You're going to do well. 566 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:46,620 Meanwhile, I think I have a note here that oh, here's a word 567 00:31:46,620 --> 00:31:50,520 Yeah, just a note I made I know breeds is fun follows anyone who 568 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,480 follows our various podcast knows that I take kind of 569 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,230 sketchy notes and I wonder what the heck you don't say this one 570 00:31:58,230 --> 00:32:01,560 says coughed a tear, she blew it. Okay, here's this is I 571 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,400 realised what it is. That's when Biden which I thought was a bit 572 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,030 much where he started to you know, cough the tear over you 573 00:32:09,030 --> 00:32:11,220 know, the possibility that was sons and that, you know, 574 00:32:11,220 --> 00:32:11,820 horrible day. 575 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,590 They got killed by by the way, Joe Biden had cries during 576 00:32:16,590 --> 00:32:19,950 speeches. He's known for doing this and I don't want to say 577 00:32:19,950 --> 00:32:23,160 that it wasn't sincere. But you know, he, like any good actor. 578 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,150 He uses his personal emotions and experiences to get across 579 00:32:27,150 --> 00:32:27,630 this point. It's 580 00:32:27,630 --> 00:32:30,300 probably I mean, to do it that well do it. Well, time is 581 00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:32,550 probably something there's a series of these are highly 582 00:32:32,550 --> 00:32:38,880 skilled actors. But yes, but she had the opportunity to be 583 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,410 motherly. I totally 584 00:32:40,410 --> 00:32:44,430 agree. She blew it big time. They're big she could have come 585 00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:47,070 back soon because she already had the you know, she deserves 586 00:32:47,070 --> 00:32:49,500 or her place and have her reward and heaven. 587 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,820 wife was a teacher or something like that, where he wasn't the 588 00:32:53,820 --> 00:32:54,330 first one 589 00:32:54,330 --> 00:32:57,750 I know but but in the rights he told me last night, she went 590 00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:59,850 over to energy assumption. Yeah, she could have 591 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,750 locked it up, right, right now, you know, something about you 592 00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:05,880 know, I have, you know, we've ever all these families, and you 593 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,920 end up everybody really appreciates what you've gone 594 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,650 through. And, you know, just some sort of, there are 595 00:33:10,649 --> 00:33:14,129 plenty of single parent dads out there and we support them. I 596 00:33:14,129 --> 00:33:18,299 mean, plus you totally, and that's the you know, what I 597 00:33:18,299 --> 00:33:20,339 didn't know this about Joe Biden, I think it surprised a 598 00:33:20,339 --> 00:33:23,429 lot of people because most Americans of course, are stupid 599 00:33:23,429 --> 00:33:27,839 slave sheep ignorance. And, but that was a very interesting, 600 00:33:28,169 --> 00:33:30,959 interesting piece of information. And it did 601 00:33:30,989 --> 00:33:36,119 instantaneously, instantaneously it humanise the guy, and that 602 00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:39,869 really, really worked and I and all the way up until the end, I 603 00:33:39,869 --> 00:33:43,139 think he he had the upper hand when once that happened, 604 00:33:44,250 --> 00:33:47,340 well, I'm not convinced of that because I think where he blew it 605 00:33:47,370 --> 00:33:50,430 right after that sometime. He did this twice. And I didn't 606 00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:54,240 write down the first episode of the second time he did it and I 607 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,230 think it got fair numbers, but I think it makes him look like a 608 00:33:58,260 --> 00:34:01,950 either a stand up comic or just a political when he went. He's 609 00:34:01,950 --> 00:34:05,640 not a maverick because he's not a maverick because he's not and 610 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,370 he didn't do it five or six they went on for 10 times and she 611 00:34:08,370 --> 00:34:11,220 didn't there's another opportunity for her to say Joe 612 00:34:11,220 --> 00:34:13,350 you know you're repeating yourself you're not a maverick. 613 00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:15,720 And he did it earlier to 614 00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:18,419 he would even he would even say that he would repeat things 615 00:34:18,419 --> 00:34:23,759 slowly so you idiots can understand what I am programming 616 00:34:23,759 --> 00:34:28,769 into your brain he would keep doing that he would keep doing 617 00:34:28,769 --> 00:34:31,469 and those Yeah, what was that thing I wrote it down and he was 618 00:34:31,469 --> 00:34:37,709 just it was shoot my cow I'll find it somewhere in my in my 619 00:34:37,709 --> 00:34:41,219 notes. But yeah, there was a lot of a lot of repetition because 620 00:34:41,219 --> 00:34:45,419 these guys know repetition works. They know it and it 621 00:34:45,419 --> 00:34:50,729 didn't work. Well no, not that this was Sarah Palin just took 622 00:34:50,729 --> 00:34:53,729 it to a whole different level and and the reason why I 623 00:34:53,729 --> 00:34:54,389 actually watched 624 00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:57,839 fashion with you at the prom was it was old fashioned. It looked 625 00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:01,079 old fashioned. It felt old fashioned. You know, it was this 626 00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:04,409 repetition thing it looks staged that last guy who the guy who 627 00:35:04,409 --> 00:35:07,619 does it the best right now is Chris Rock a comic. Yeah. 628 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,430 Let me tell you though, that so first of all, Sarah Palin is a 629 00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:15,300 political animal, I think. And what that means is again, it's 630 00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:19,410 just an actress and and she's fantastic at it. And I think 631 00:35:19,410 --> 00:35:24,840 it's a super duper asset for for McCain and I only wish that she 632 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,720 was working for us because you know, clearly she can take 633 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:31,110 direction and this is the kind of woman this is the kind of 634 00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:35,310 image that absolutely could save America if someone else was 635 00:35:35,310 --> 00:35:40,500 pulling her strings so you know, it's going to be a hard job for 636 00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:44,250 Obama and Biden to get across the message This is what I said 637 00:35:44,250 --> 00:35:48,090 to you before she's expert at hammering home the exact talking 638 00:35:48,090 --> 00:35:52,410 points to the tee in understandable pleasant man with 639 00:35:52,410 --> 00:35:53,790 a planet pleasant man resume 640 00:35:53,790 --> 00:35:57,870 language that plain language NBA CNBC guy was just made a big 641 00:35:57,870 --> 00:36:01,620 point of that and everyone from the Midwest including Van 642 00:36:01,620 --> 00:36:07,140 Susteren on Friday. She's on she's like, in love with her. 643 00:36:07,140 --> 00:36:07,500 You know, 644 00:36:08,130 --> 00:36:11,760 she's on Fox. Of course, she's in love with her. He's going on 645 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,340 and on about this is the Midwestern thing that we love so 646 00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:17,340 much as why, you know, the Johnny Carson's and the David 647 00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:18,930 Letterman's do so well on television. 648 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,690 This is the big secret this is this is something that I've 649 00:36:21,690 --> 00:36:26,130 known for almost all my life, Country and Western music is 650 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,270 laughed about a ska followed by the elitist media on the west 651 00:36:30,270 --> 00:36:35,010 and the east. Okay, now it is they, they actually can't stop 652 00:36:35,010 --> 00:36:38,430 it anymore, because now you have the Country Music Awards, but 653 00:36:38,430 --> 00:36:45,990 the sales of not just actual CDs, but of concerts is so 654 00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:50,610 incredibly large because it is actually what is alive in 655 00:36:50,610 --> 00:36:54,000 America today. That's what people really like to listen to. 656 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:54,660 Dan have 657 00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:58,350 a huge concerts. And if you take that and one more step and start 658 00:36:58,350 --> 00:36:59,610 looking at NASCAR. 659 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,260 Oh, thank you very much. It was the largest League. It is the 660 00:37:04,260 --> 00:37:08,250 largest spectator sport in the United States of America. It is 661 00:37:08,340 --> 00:37:12,420 huge. And then the West Coast and East Coast elitist media. 662 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:15,960 Whenever they recognise it, they get it and they see this is the 663 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,230 secret to reality television. This they don't even understand 664 00:37:19,230 --> 00:37:22,230 it yet. They're so frickin elitist. When people see 665 00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:27,420 themselves standing in line, like slave sheep's. They love 666 00:37:27,420 --> 00:37:30,120 it. Hey, look, I'm on TV, and I'm going to the stupid 667 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,510 audition. And I made it on. This is what Jerry Springer is about. 668 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,120 This is what it's all about John, and that's why these shows 669 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,650 are huge in the numbers. And and obviously it's it's not it's not 670 00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:43,470 to not be the future of this great country. But that is the 671 00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:46,290 reality. That is really what's going on and that is what you're 672 00:37:46,290 --> 00:37:47,220 seeing this evening. 673 00:37:47,759 --> 00:37:53,999 Okay, now I got the one the one domain the entire night. The one 674 00:37:54,299 --> 00:37:57,269 and crypto were no real gaffes, except for the votes of the way 675 00:37:57,269 --> 00:38:01,679 which is one kind of a gaffe. Besides, I think Mike Palin kept 676 00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:04,019 calling that some general MCO Yeah, 677 00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:05,760 but no, but no one knew that they all had to get their 678 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,300 analysts 679 00:38:07,710 --> 00:38:10,650 that were I mean, they did. 680 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,580 Why didn't Biden correct her? Because you know, if he didn't 681 00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:15,420 know it, either, Biden's 682 00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:18,360 was better. Oh, what was that right and had a gap that I think 683 00:38:19,830 --> 00:38:22,950 he's got a goal in mind. He's talks about that. You know, 684 00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:27,240 there. He calls it the Bosnians, the Bosniaks. 685 00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:32,639 Oh, I didn't hear that. That's fantastic. This is the that he 686 00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:35,039 was so heavily involved in he doesn't even know what they're 687 00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:38,969 called. Because of the bus. Wozniak's. Oh fantastic. 688 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,500 I didn't even say arias. I just Oh my gosh, that is so funny, 689 00:38:43,650 --> 00:38:45,660 the Bosniaks but he 690 00:38:47,310 --> 00:38:49,830 probably thinks Bharat really is from Kazakhstan. 691 00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:53,250 So So here's the one that I thought when he brought it into 692 00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:55,500 the I don't have the exact quote but he brought it in out of the 693 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:58,920 blue I guess as a reference all the Democrats that still 694 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:04,290 remember this it this is another one of these callbacks like 1932 695 00:39:04,290 --> 00:39:09,390 that nobody gives a crap about keep brings up Judge Bork. Oh, 696 00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:10,440 man. I mean, 697 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,930 did you hear that? He said Bork 698 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,800 Judge Bork Well, we could have been had Joe who knows 699 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,720 what the nobody likes me. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. This is 700 00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:26,070 this is SMS society, man. You know, he, he also he was 701 00:39:26,070 --> 00:39:29,400 underprepared. John, he really was not ready for this. He 702 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,690 really thought this was a shoo in. 703 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,479 I'm telling you know, you might be right. I thought he did a 704 00:39:33,479 --> 00:39:34,139 great job. 705 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,260 Well, I think he told the truth and I think he spoke from his 706 00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:40,860 heart but and I think he played his role expertly. You know, 707 00:39:40,860 --> 00:39:44,910 this, he didn't attack her. Which just made it so easy for 708 00:39:44,910 --> 00:39:46,500 her and you know, this is 709 00:39:46,620 --> 00:39:49,500 what this is what all the experts predicted by the way. 710 00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:50,070 Well, 711 00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,680 I predicted it to not that I want to call myself an expert, 712 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,730 but I told you yours as 713 00:39:53,730 --> 00:39:55,980 much of an expert as any of these other Boneheads. Thank 714 00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:57,720 you. I appreciate that, my friend. Yes, very 715 00:39:57,720 --> 00:39:58,500 good. Very good. 716 00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:01,920 No Pay Palin did have a little gaffe, which I'm sure will 717 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,090 become a Freudian soundbite on YouTube. She had a couple of 718 00:40:06,090 --> 00:40:06,570 them, by the way, 719 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,180 well, there was more than one of the prompts that she had. Do you 720 00:40:09,180 --> 00:40:14,850 want me to say just one? Occasionally, she roamed into 721 00:40:14,850 --> 00:40:18,870 that, you know, Miss teenage South Carolina thing where her 722 00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:22,110 sentence structure started to break down. And she kept trying 723 00:40:22,110 --> 00:40:25,920 to recover. And it was like, well, you try to wrap this up 724 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,090 before you embarrass yourself. Generally, Biden didn't do that, 725 00:40:30,090 --> 00:40:33,900 too. But she would do it in a real weird way that you go. I 726 00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:36,270 can see somebody bringing this one on YouTube. 727 00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:41,160 Generally. She I thought her vocabulary was interesting. She 728 00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:44,070 she definitely tried to start her sentences differently each 729 00:40:44,070 --> 00:40:46,530 time. You know, I pay attention, that kind of stuff. And there 730 00:40:46,530 --> 00:40:50,790 was no look and guess what and any of that stuff, although when 731 00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:54,330 the I think this was the heartbeat away. So the gas that 732 00:40:54,330 --> 00:41:00,510 she made there was instead of saying, John McCain to lead, she 733 00:41:00,510 --> 00:41:05,130 said, No, it was John McCain to leave. I didn't hear that. Yeah, 734 00:41:05,130 --> 00:41:07,890 that was one of the one of the moderators, she cracked a couple 735 00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:10,680 jokes. And I was typing on the keyboard, so I couldn't hear it 736 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,300 to kind of need the in there. What to 737 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,780 just do any jokes. They were laughing 738 00:41:15,780 --> 00:41:18,600 It was she'd like crack the little a little side joke. Just 739 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,750 before she laid into the floor. She said the jokes were laying 740 00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:24,090 low. But the moderator said something. She said something 741 00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:26,010 funny, but and the audience laughed. 742 00:41:26,370 --> 00:41:29,400 Oh, did I do all I remember is the lame o thing. And then Biden 743 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,500 kind of had it come back, you know, think I'm funny or 744 00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:34,050 something like that. That was his rice. No, but that was a 745 00:41:34,050 --> 00:41:36,450 human moment. But I don't think it did much for the debate. 746 00:41:37,170 --> 00:41:39,600 Did you look at the spikes? Was there anything there? Yeah, 747 00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:43,350 it was it went up a little bit. Yeah. But it wasn't it wasn't a 748 00:41:43,350 --> 00:41:46,050 spike. I mean, the spikes are always with the same all kinds 749 00:41:46,050 --> 00:41:49,440 of, you know, grand issues, you know, in education to a lesser 750 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,050 extent, but personal responsibility was the big one. 751 00:41:52,110 --> 00:41:56,220 Yeah. And dreaming corruption. Green corruption work with 752 00:41:56,220 --> 00:42:00,660 McCain too. But the problem is, you know, the problem Palin had 753 00:42:00,660 --> 00:42:05,880 she revisited it too often, she revisited two topics over and 754 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,740 over again, out of the blue, I thought it was a little 755 00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:11,460 strained, about, you know, energy independence, and then 756 00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:13,560 greed and corruption, she'd bring it in once you want to get 757 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,500 her numbers back up, you know, so here, so here's how to how, 758 00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:18,180 by the way, she couldn't, you know, here's the thing that 759 00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:22,140 somebody's one of these boneheads has got to do. I'm 760 00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:26,610 sick of hearing this meme. The United States uses 21% of the 761 00:42:26,610 --> 00:42:30,570 world's energy. And we only have 3% of the world's resources that 762 00:42:30,570 --> 00:42:35,460 3% of the world's resources plus our coal is like 1000 times more 763 00:42:35,580 --> 00:42:39,390 than anybody else has. And when it comes down to it that 3% of 764 00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:43,980 the world's total, yeah, if you tapped it and just used it, it 765 00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:48,810 would last for decades. I mean, the whole thing is bad math. And 766 00:42:48,810 --> 00:42:52,110 the fact that the Republicans have bought into this stupid 767 00:42:52,110 --> 00:42:55,920 argument, oh, well, we use 21% or 25, or whatever it is, it is 768 00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:58,740 the world's energy, but we only have 3% of the world's 769 00:42:58,740 --> 00:43:06,240 resources. Those 3% is more than we're using. Yeah. Nobody jumps 770 00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:09,000 on that and says, Dude, this is just great. I mean, this is 771 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,000 there's got to, I have to think of an analogy, which I'll think 772 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,820 of, you know, it's like, you use like most of the tomatoes in the 773 00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:17,250 world, but you know, you this kind of thing. I mean, there's 774 00:43:17,250 --> 00:43:21,750 some there's some better way to some way of summarising that 775 00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:25,080 bogus number, you're taking two different things. 776 00:43:26,009 --> 00:43:29,609 So McCain and Palin can lock this up. And this is the twist 777 00:43:29,609 --> 00:43:33,989 that I would I would give it considering I only have, what, 778 00:43:33,989 --> 00:43:38,759 30 more days or whatever. I would have set it up so that 779 00:43:38,759 --> 00:43:42,629 McCain can now say, I guess shit, he can, I guess because he 780 00:43:42,629 --> 00:43:45,029 already voted What a dick, I would have done differently. If 781 00:43:45,029 --> 00:43:48,269 he if McCain or Palin were to come out and say no to this 782 00:43:48,269 --> 00:43:52,499 bill, in some way, right for the financial stability Act or the 783 00:43:52,499 --> 00:43:56,099 Emergency Economic stability act. If there was some way that 784 00:43:56,099 --> 00:43:58,619 they could talk that down, they could lock it up. Because that I 785 00:43:58,619 --> 00:44:01,169 think is the number one thing on American's minds right now is 786 00:44:01,169 --> 00:44:04,589 this and what is that going to do to the markets? And we know 787 00:44:04,589 --> 00:44:07,829 Obama can't do it because he's, he's backed so heavily by Wall 788 00:44:07,829 --> 00:44:08,339 Street. 789 00:44:09,870 --> 00:44:11,790 Really, he's been mum on the topic. 790 00:44:12,449 --> 00:44:15,689 Yeah, he's been sitting on observing from the sidelines or 791 00:44:15,689 --> 00:44:19,529 whatever. Right, whatever he says. And I, you know, McCain 792 00:44:19,529 --> 00:44:21,479 just voted against him. That would have been the moment 793 00:44:21,479 --> 00:44:25,019 really, but maybe the timing wasn't right. Well, you know, 794 00:44:25,019 --> 00:44:27,929 it's, he's, I don't think you can go back on it in any way. 795 00:44:28,019 --> 00:44:32,669 You know, he can't say Oh, I you know, I want to mulligan is, 796 00:44:33,870 --> 00:44:38,730 you know, that that whole topic is a problem. So, I don't know. 797 00:44:38,970 --> 00:44:41,970 I think they're gonna have to win without that. But the it's 798 00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:44,340 gonna be interesting to see what happens. I mean, there are 799 00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:46,920 people you know, I had one of my bloggers, you know, most of my 800 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,240 bloggers may hate McCain. And one of them said, is McCain 801 00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:55,320 trying to blow the election? It was a I guess it's one of the 802 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,220 read that actually interesting is not an unusual by the way. It 803 00:44:59,220 --> 00:45:01,800 is funny because he's the Most left wing of the group. That 804 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,500 way, he's not really one of the bloggers. He's the sysop. Who 805 00:45:04,530 --> 00:45:08,250 lead blog. And when he because he can't, he's his feels like 806 00:45:08,250 --> 00:45:11,220 jumping in. Okay, but he gets good numbers usually didn't on 807 00:45:11,220 --> 00:45:15,600 this one. So I can now you know, give him crap, right? He was 808 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,570 it's an interesting point because if you look at some of 809 00:45:18,570 --> 00:45:21,570 the extreme right wing talks, guys are the most conservative 810 00:45:21,570 --> 00:45:23,700 like Michael Savage. For example, one of the more 811 00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:26,130 entertaining guys among the biggest talk show hosts in the 812 00:45:26,130 --> 00:45:29,430 United States on radio. He said, he's been saying this from day 813 00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:33,420 one, that the thing is rigged for McCain to lose, he wants to 814 00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:36,780 lose it. Because you know, they want to get the Democrats in an 815 00:45:36,780 --> 00:45:41,550 eye. If you listen to me and my, you know, 1480 year cycle thing. 816 00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:44,640 The idea is, if you get the Democrats in during this point 817 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,750 of the cycle, everything they will never get in office again, 818 00:45:48,750 --> 00:45:51,510 in their entire history that the party will be dead. 819 00:45:51,540 --> 00:45:55,800 Well, you know, that's interesting, you say that, and I 820 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,310 don't believe the world is too dynamic. And this is why they're 821 00:45:59,310 --> 00:46:03,210 all running scared, by the way to really plan something that 822 00:46:03,210 --> 00:46:06,570 far ahead anymore. So I believe that Daniels, of course, the 823 00:46:06,570 --> 00:46:09,240 true owners of the Earth, control both candidates. So I 824 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:12,210 think that they basically basically hedge their bets. And 825 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:14,250 you know, and it's a player, you can do worse 826 00:46:14,250 --> 00:46:15,660 than dropping that theme. 827 00:46:16,259 --> 00:46:22,799 Why I truly believe members of the gore. Oh, come on, you know, 828 00:46:22,799 --> 00:46:25,259 what I'm talking about. These guys are all bought and paid for 829 00:46:25,259 --> 00:46:28,559 Come on. That's obvious. I'm pleased. This is why I say Sarah 830 00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:31,019 Palin, we need to create a movement have 831 00:46:31,020 --> 00:46:34,440 a sense of the cycle, and they would want to get you know, one 832 00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:36,930 person or other somebody in it for a particular 833 00:46:36,930 --> 00:46:39,720 tank. And anyway, if they don't have that's already happening 834 00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:43,320 that, you know, people are so stupid that you heard about the 835 00:46:43,530 --> 00:46:47,340 White House saying, oh, we can't handle the email forms anymore 836 00:46:47,340 --> 00:46:50,070 and more on our servers. So you can't automatically email your 837 00:46:50,070 --> 00:46:55,560 representative because the PHP script is bogging down. Yeah, 838 00:46:55,590 --> 00:47:00,480 what so? Of course, it's a crock of shit. That's horrible. It's 839 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:04,950 so that stuff is going on, man. So anyway, besides that, what we 840 00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:08,550 need to do is we need to kidnap Sarah Palin and we need to 841 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:14,220 reprogram her so that we can you know take over these evil people 842 00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:17,520 that are behind all of this that's that's an that's a stupid 843 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,280 theme. That's an actual that is what we should do with the 844 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,430 playbook. I'm telling you, these guys are brilliant. Did you hear 845 00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:26,550 the axis of evil? She had an axis of evil in there. I loved 846 00:47:26,550 --> 00:47:31,080 it. Well, it was Almudena job, Kim Jong Il and the Castro 847 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:31,680 brothers. 848 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,020 Stowers. Like it sounds like their band. No, it sounded like 849 00:47:37,050 --> 00:47:39,600 evil gangsters. The Castro brothers brothers. 850 00:47:40,590 --> 00:47:42,630 Brothers with Joey knuckles. 851 00:47:47,070 --> 00:47:50,520 Mickey, Mickey blue, Nicki blue eyes Mickey blue, the Castro 852 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,880 brothers. Yeah, no, I love that. 853 00:47:58,290 --> 00:47:59,820 That was a good one. But anyway, 854 00:47:59,850 --> 00:48:03,330 obviously, you know, what cannot represent the United States of 855 00:48:03,330 --> 00:48:07,080 America is this whole notion of, hey, look, no one's gonna have 856 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,840 nuclear shit only weekend. And that's the balance because we 857 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,560 fucking ruled the world. This was so evil. That was the stuff 858 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,600 that was coming out of her mouth. How did that do on the 859 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:16,080 scale? 860 00:48:16,380 --> 00:48:19,020 It didn't do anything one way or the other? Because then he 861 00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:21,570 always sends the women down. And the men are kind of like, well, 862 00:48:21,570 --> 00:48:26,130 maybe we should you know. She did what she never said. I mean, 863 00:48:26,310 --> 00:48:29,070 that was actually a pretty neutral little exchange. It 864 00:48:29,070 --> 00:48:30,570 didn't amount to a hill of beans was 865 00:48:30,990 --> 00:48:34,050 a huge issue. People don't care about us killing other people. I 866 00:48:34,050 --> 00:48:34,710 guess we don't. 867 00:48:35,790 --> 00:48:39,390 Generally speaking, I think it's pretty, it's pretty removed, 868 00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:42,900 which I think the rest of the world doesn't quite get. But 869 00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:47,460 that's just the way it is. I mean, you know, we're, we're, 870 00:48:48,060 --> 00:48:51,960 we're close but not quite the Roman Empire. We have a certain 871 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,310 kind of Cavalier in this about us that you know, these other 872 00:48:56,340 --> 00:48:59,610 moaners and groaners which is why that article which I have to 873 00:48:59,670 --> 00:49:02,130 post them either when I sent you from the telegraph, but all 874 00:49:02,130 --> 00:49:05,070 these Europeans and you've talked about it, oh, yeah, these 875 00:49:05,070 --> 00:49:08,460 Europeans it's, it's America's problem, this whole economic 876 00:49:08,460 --> 00:49:10,410 thing and now they're all screw I actually, 877 00:49:11,130 --> 00:49:14,280 there's actually a new thread that I'm following because 878 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,150 people are now reading the new bill which is 541 pages you 879 00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:20,340 know, this thing has grown just I've actually sent you a couple 880 00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:24,270 of links. But apparently, they've set it up so that they 881 00:49:24,270 --> 00:49:28,920 can actually just pay foreigners it's just it's just a Chinese 882 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,320 we're just gonna pay off the Chinese and then Okay, now let's 883 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,640 get back get back to business. 884 00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:37,290 Like we don't give them enough money. Yeah, but ya know, this 885 00:49:37,290 --> 00:49:41,340 whole thing is a total scam, but the market demands it when I did 886 00:49:41,340 --> 00:49:42,630 a piece with Horowitz 887 00:49:42,780 --> 00:49:45,450 they're telling us we're all gonna die if you don't do it, 888 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,060 they're saying that we're all gonna die. They're saying it. I 889 00:49:48,060 --> 00:49:49,710 know financial terrorism. 890 00:49:50,610 --> 00:49:54,690 But the market said we're very clearly Look, you guys do this 891 00:49:54,690 --> 00:49:57,450 deal, or we're just gonna tank and that and you're gonna be 892 00:49:57,450 --> 00:50:00,870 screwed. So okay, we'll do the deal. You know, like you said 893 00:50:00,870 --> 00:50:02,880 the other day when I was talking to you said, Well, you know, I 894 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,690 say, you know, even though it seems like a lot of money, and 895 00:50:06,690 --> 00:50:10,920 it does say the least, you know, 700 billion in an economy like 896 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,760 ours, it's a lot of money. It's about $2,500. For every lead, 897 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,160 it's not about the money. It's not about the money. 898 00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:20,699 It's about the power and the control and a fourth branch of 899 00:50:20,699 --> 00:50:21,719 government, but we're 900 00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:24,570 not going to get that, you know, from these candidates. I mean, 901 00:50:24,570 --> 00:50:26,430 nothing's going to change and it's just a cycle 902 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,730 baked into his job. This whole thing about carbon credits is 903 00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:30,750 baked into this bill. 904 00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:34,080 Oh, that did this really bugged me. Oh, it is baked in to the 905 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,550 bill, man is all kinds of carbon baked in, but I'll use it. I'm 906 00:50:38,550 --> 00:50:39,120 sorry. What should 907 00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:43,619 I say included constant when I say included or included would 908 00:50:43,619 --> 00:50:48,689 be good, included and somewhat obscured? Because it's on page 909 00:50:48,689 --> 00:50:50,189 3000, or whatever. 910 00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:55,590 The fact that the two of them Palin and Biden went in, you 911 00:50:55,590 --> 00:50:57,690 know, the Palin was a little better. She was better on two 912 00:50:57,690 --> 00:51:01,710 things. One on that on the, you know, by the way, what are the 913 00:51:01,710 --> 00:51:05,250 gays gonna do listening to fight and saying, Did you notice this? 914 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:05,700 Yeah, they 915 00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:08,100 both said no way. No gay marriage. 916 00:51:08,580 --> 00:51:11,880 A lot of Democrats were, that's I was shocked. 917 00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:14,310 I was absolutely I was like, wait a minute, that doesn't make 918 00:51:14,310 --> 00:51:15,090 any sense. 919 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,930 And he said that that data that Obama agreed with him so 920 00:51:18,929 --> 00:51:22,079 now so there you go, there's your government art to our gay 921 00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,389 listeners, there's your government, they hate you. They 922 00:51:24,389 --> 00:51:27,719 hate you. Both of them you still gonna vote for one or the other 923 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,329 end was Palin was more magnanimous, of course. 924 00:51:31,290 --> 00:51:35,070 And you know what she has, first of all, this is America, John. 925 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,960 And now now I'm actually sounding like an asshole 926 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,510 Republican. But the way she handled that as 927 00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:40,650 opposed to a what? 928 00:51:41,820 --> 00:51:46,770 Just a kook fucking Kook Oh koupit. I am. But the way she 929 00:51:46,770 --> 00:51:49,410 handled that I was extremely impressed. He said, Look, it's 930 00:51:49,410 --> 00:51:52,020 not my style. It's not my choice, blah, blah, blah. She 931 00:51:52,020 --> 00:51:54,630 went through all that. And then she said, But you know what? I 932 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:57,000 stand by it. Marriage should be man and woman. So that's, you 933 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,830 know, that's that's something that's debatable. And we'll 934 00:51:58,830 --> 00:52:02,220 debate about it forever. And, you know, that's okay. It seemed 935 00:52:02,220 --> 00:52:06,210 to me, although she did skate around that answer, that she 936 00:52:06,210 --> 00:52:08,370 agreed with just about everything and all legal rights, 937 00:52:08,370 --> 00:52:10,590 et cetera, et cetera. But she was hiding something there. I'm 938 00:52:10,590 --> 00:52:11,580 not quite sure what it was 939 00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:14,790 the way she was handling and I thought was pretty, you know, 940 00:52:14,940 --> 00:52:18,060 typical. She's a Christian and she's, you know, Pentecostal. 941 00:52:18,060 --> 00:52:20,640 She has all these, you know, all this baggage, and she was 942 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,460 dealing with it as a person and she but you didn't feel that was 943 00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:26,910 gonna get in the way over legislation, everything. But he 944 00:52:26,910 --> 00:52:29,760 turned it over to Biden. The biggest 945 00:52:29,790 --> 00:52:34,050 Yeah, it was unbelievable. And I think that's really going to 946 00:52:34,050 --> 00:52:34,470 hurt him. 947 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,960 Oh, I think it's going to hurt the campaign because all these 948 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,250 gays are like, lined up lockstep with Obama and Biden. And now 949 00:52:41,250 --> 00:52:44,280 they're hearing this. Yeah, this will be because I'm sure there's 950 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,670 a lot. There's a lot of there's probably as many gay people that 951 00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:49,980 are Republicans as there are Democrats because it's got 952 00:52:49,980 --> 00:52:54,420 nothing to do with anything. We're all gay. They're all 953 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,570 walking over toward the Democrat side, because it seemed as 954 00:52:57,570 --> 00:52:59,790 though they were more amenable, but now it's like, well, what 955 00:52:59,790 --> 00:53:05,850 difference does it make it? Let me just vote my party. Ah, that 956 00:53:05,850 --> 00:53:06,600 was a botch. 957 00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:11,520 That was a huge botch. But it also it came. It came from a 958 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,190 very direct very, that was one of the times he was extremely 959 00:53:14,190 --> 00:53:16,500 direct and just said, No, I'm against gay marriage. Not gonna 960 00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:20,490 happen. Yeah, so that was that, you know, at least you know what 961 00:53:20,490 --> 00:53:21,210 you got with him? 962 00:53:22,530 --> 00:53:24,810 Well, he was, you know, I thought, generally speaking, he 963 00:53:24,810 --> 00:53:28,020 was he wasn't as direct or she wasn't, he wasn't as plain 964 00:53:28,020 --> 00:53:32,100 talking as Sarah Palin. But he was he was just about as direct 965 00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:34,230 without being completely obnoxious. 966 00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:38,070 But he was bumbling look, again, I'm looking at it from I'm not 967 00:53:38,070 --> 00:53:42,030 kidding. I'm looking at it from a NASCAR perspective. And he 968 00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:45,300 sometimes he would go off and he would mention names who you 969 00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:48,900 know, all these words, fancy words. And I'm not mocking 970 00:53:50,190 --> 00:53:53,550 Middle America or anything like that. I love you. You've you've 971 00:53:53,580 --> 00:53:57,210 you've given me a reason to have a career with shitty hair and 972 00:53:57,210 --> 00:54:01,230 leather jackets. And I appreciate but you know, that's 973 00:54:01,230 --> 00:54:04,440 what everyone says, oh, big hair dickhead. But you know what? I'm 974 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,580 just I'm basically I'm basically just the standard kind of guy 975 00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:10,980 and I get a little kooky like we all do. We all like to smoke 976 00:54:10,980 --> 00:54:14,040 some weed and hang out and play our country western music, and 977 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,660 we will play the game. 978 00:54:17,429 --> 00:54:20,849 You'd actually be comfortable at a NASCAR race. 979 00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:25,200 I've been to them. No, absolutely. And I've been to 980 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,990 IndyCar and Oh, yeah. I love it. 981 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,970 But today, I think you have sent you're on to something a little 982 00:54:32,970 --> 00:54:35,400 bit. The problem we're gonna run into here is what happened with 983 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,160 Carrie. Carrie was looking actually pretty good. He was 984 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,030 still ponderous. He couldn't stop talking and droned on and 985 00:54:42,030 --> 00:54:45,810 on. Obama is going to is approaching this kind of 986 00:54:45,810 --> 00:54:49,770 ponderous, boring guy. And you know, as look gonna look to the 987 00:54:49,770 --> 00:54:53,190 same old thing to Democrats that can't stop talking and there's 988 00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:57,090 just a lot of, you know, and they're not dropping down to the 989 00:54:57,090 --> 00:55:00,510 level where they're actually speaking to people. It's just, 990 00:55:00,510 --> 00:55:04,440 you know, kind of talking to an audience. And I don't know, I 991 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,680 mean, I thought I still think I've thought from the beginning 992 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,580 that Obama's act, and I have to I'm not gonna say he's not a 993 00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:14,040 good speaker, he can't hold an audience or he can't draw a 994 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,410 crowd. And I think they should have been selling tickets to 995 00:55:16,590 --> 00:55:21,600 stadiums across the country from get from the get go. You know, 996 00:55:21,630 --> 00:55:25,560 people would pay 100 bucks and fill a stadium to listen to this 997 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,770 guy, because they put on a great show. They got the stage, 998 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,760 it was awesome. It was a it was a class a rock show, let me ask 999 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,820 you something. Because someone, I listened to an interview 1000 00:55:35,820 --> 00:55:38,520 today, and I'll send you a link. I was actually listening to him 1001 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,460 right up until the debate. And it was some guys of course, he's 1002 00:55:41,460 --> 00:55:44,610 written a book or whatever. But he was talking about Obama as a. 1003 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,240 And of course, I want this on my resume, a community organiser, 1004 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,230 and he was explaining what a community organiser was. And 1005 00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:55,800 essentially, it's someone who goes around in a community and 1006 00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:02,130 convinces people kind of turns their own opinion in their own 1007 00:56:02,130 --> 00:56:05,400 words into something that is beneficial to him, or whoever 1008 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,480 he's organising for kind of like, like an internet chat 1009 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,860 room. Moderator, if you will, but But you know, whenever the 1010 00:56:13,890 --> 00:56:16,680 owner of the bulletin board comes along and says, you know, 1011 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,480 it says, I gotta say some of that it's like, oh, well, you 1012 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,170 know, the owner of the system is here, I gotta let them talk. And 1013 00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:26,280 that his skill, and I, and this is what we're seeing his skill 1014 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,780 is playing upon very deep emotions within his audience, 1015 00:56:30,780 --> 00:56:33,780 within people who are listening to them, and getting them to see 1016 00:56:33,780 --> 00:56:38,160 his way to truly change actually, is that a fair 1017 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:38,910 assessment? 1018 00:56:39,449 --> 00:56:42,509 I think in some ways it is, it might be a little superficial, 1019 00:56:42,509 --> 00:56:44,789 but the fact of the matter is that community organisers guy 1020 00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:49,139 goes around with an agenda. And they go from place to place to 1021 00:56:49,139 --> 00:56:51,929 place to get people to agree with this agenda, whatever it 1022 00:56:51,929 --> 00:56:55,409 is, and he's and it takes a lot of work. This is like one of 1023 00:56:55,409 --> 00:56:57,869 those things I always thought, you know, there's, you run into 1024 00:56:57,869 --> 00:57:00,689 this a lot. Everyone in the United States has seen this 1025 00:57:00,689 --> 00:57:05,159 happen. You, you run into, for example, somebody knock on the 1026 00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:08,609 door, you know, you go to the door, and there's some data out 1027 00:57:08,609 --> 00:57:12,689 here, man, there's a little black kid selling subscriptions 1028 00:57:12,689 --> 00:57:15,689 to magazines, or candy or something, or else and they come 1029 00:57:15,689 --> 00:57:20,069 in they go, every once in a while one of these kids is so 1030 00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:25,949 driven, to sell you something that you'd go, wow, I would love 1031 00:57:25,949 --> 00:57:30,689 to have this kid working for me, selling you know, advertising in 1032 00:57:30,689 --> 00:57:34,289 a magazine or selling something because this guy's just just 1033 00:57:34,289 --> 00:57:37,499 relentless and he's gone and on and on. And I just sales guy. 1034 00:57:38,009 --> 00:57:40,949 And he's just never he's relentless getting to you have 1035 00:57:40,949 --> 00:57:43,529 to give him money to get out of there are some because you can't 1036 00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:46,139 you know, you we know people that do this. 1037 00:57:46,139 --> 00:57:49,289 We have that in the United Kingdom as well, by the way, and 1038 00:57:49,350 --> 00:57:53,550 okay. And this type of person is what a community organiser 1039 00:57:53,550 --> 00:57:57,090 basically as he goes around, and he says, you know, he's, unless 1040 00:57:57,090 --> 00:58:00,630 he's the leader of a bunch of these kids, it's that kind of 1041 00:58:00,630 --> 00:58:03,600 thing. And they're just floating around some area to get some 1042 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,950 change made or to get a law passed or to kick somebody out 1043 00:58:07,950 --> 00:58:11,010 of office or whatever it is, in the case of the acorn, which was 1044 00:58:11,010 --> 00:58:13,950 one of the things he worked for, is still around and they seem to 1045 00:58:13,950 --> 00:58:15,720 be involved with getting people 1046 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,230 mad. Just ask you something, just so I understand you, it's 1047 00:58:19,620 --> 00:58:23,490 me ask you specifically. I'm doing my Katie Couric. I asked 1048 00:58:23,490 --> 00:58:26,550 you specifically, is it only little black kids 1049 00:58:26,550 --> 00:58:30,000 that do this? No. There's all kinds of white kids or you said 1050 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,300 it you said it's always a little black young, black kids who come 1051 00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:36,540 up with the newspaper thing or the magazine thing in mind, make 1052 00:58:36,540 --> 00:58:39,690 sure you're not a racist bigot cocksucker. I mean, there's I've 1053 00:58:39,690 --> 00:58:46,260 never I haven't seen a white kid. Come up to my house. In 20 1054 00:58:46,260 --> 00:58:49,560 years selling magazines is always black kids. And I was 1055 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,480 using the black kids because they're the best example. And 1056 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,210 I'm actually more impressed with them. Because they have two 1057 00:58:54,210 --> 00:58:57,300 black kid in a white neighbourhood. A black kid come 1058 00:58:57,300 --> 00:59:00,510 into a white neighbourhood selling magazine subscriptions 1059 00:59:00,510 --> 00:59:03,060 with a phoney baloney identification, the rest of it 1060 00:59:03,060 --> 00:59:08,580 takes a lot of nerve. It takes a salesmanship, it takes an ease. 1061 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,970 It takes a lot of there's, there's so many elements. That's 1062 00:59:11,970 --> 00:59:15,600 what impresses me. I'm going wow, this this kid is 1063 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,810 unbelievable. He's coming into an all white neighbourhood is 1064 00:59:18,810 --> 00:59:22,200 selling some crappy magazines that I don't want and he's 1065 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,590 relentless was succeeding guilt trips on me and everything else 1066 00:59:25,590 --> 00:59:29,970 to get a sale. I'm just impressed believe me. That's why 1067 00:59:29,970 --> 00:59:31,560 I'm you know, I don't see why kids doing this. 1068 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,080 I'm just saying that, you know, I'm just saying that to protect 1069 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,260 you, John, because I know how stupid people are who listened 1070 00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:38,430 to the show sometimes, 1071 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,450 ya know, I can understand why I don't want to. But there's not a 1072 00:59:42,450 --> 00:59:46,110 racist thing. It is a cultural thing. And it's, it's impressive 1073 00:59:46,110 --> 00:59:51,090 to me that these kids are so talented. That it's just like 1074 00:59:51,090 --> 00:59:55,920 wow, and Obama had to be in that league had to be Give me a 1075 00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:00,870 break. This guy was in a league by himself. Yeah, as a community 1076 01:00:00,870 --> 01:00:04,380 organiser, I'm sure Yeah. And he's obviously a dumbest guy. 1077 01:00:04,380 --> 01:00:05,370 And can I just 1078 01:00:05,369 --> 01:00:08,309 take that back? I came out wrong. The people who listen to 1079 01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:11,279 the show aren't stupid. Sometimes we just don't hear 1080 01:00:11,279 --> 01:00:12,779 things the way there are 1081 01:00:12,780 --> 01:00:15,000 some people that listen to show that are stupid and heinous. 1082 01:00:16,109 --> 01:00:17,909 That's just sitting there going. 1083 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,860 Yeah, they're gonna hate you for defending me all. We had to 1084 01:00:22,860 --> 01:00:24,900 Varenka we could have had him as a racist pig. 1085 01:00:25,469 --> 01:00:28,979 Yeah, but John's because you suck. You know, you're one of my 1086 01:00:28,979 --> 01:00:29,969 true friends. 1087 01:00:31,110 --> 01:00:32,400 How sad is that? 1088 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:38,100 It's bad. So, so anyway, but yeah, well, thanks for rescuing 1089 01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:40,350 me. Not you mentioned and you're probably right. I shouldn't have 1090 01:00:40,350 --> 01:00:43,320 you know, I could have said, you know, some ethnic kid I, but no, 1091 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,360 it's usually black kids. And it's the black kids who 1092 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,780 impressed me the most. And in fact, there was a I mean, I, 1093 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:55,860 I've always had a lot of black kids or young black people. But 1094 01:00:55,860 --> 01:01:00,780 let me finish this. I have run into so many of these guys. And 1095 01:01:00,780 --> 01:01:04,170 every time I do I mean, I've seen guys at this toll plaza 1096 01:01:04,170 --> 01:01:08,310 collecting tolls that are so adept. There's a couple of guys 1097 01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:10,440 that are you there's a bunch of checkers at one of the stores 1098 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,380 and there's like one black guy that is there when I see him. I 1099 01:01:13,380 --> 01:01:18,390 don't care if his line is 10 miles long, he will get me out 1100 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,770 faster than anybody else. And there was a Costco recently I 1101 01:01:22,770 --> 01:01:25,200 was and again, it was one of these guys you can see a mile 1102 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,810 away. They're just working their butts off. They're just fast and 1103 01:01:27,810 --> 01:01:28,470 they're enjoying 1104 01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:31,890 it should I tell you something? It's is these guys and gals, I 1105 01:01:31,890 --> 01:01:35,640 presume that when everything comes comes crashing down and 1106 01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:38,910 the money is useless for a while hyperinflation or whatever, 1107 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,100 they're the ones that are going to succeed because they have 1108 01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:45,960 true social skills, and true business acumen that goes way 1109 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,510 above and beyond all of this thievery that's been going on on 1110 01:01:48,510 --> 01:01:49,170 Wall Street. 1111 01:01:49,260 --> 01:01:52,260 Well, there may be that but I think they're just naturals and 1112 01:01:52,260 --> 01:01:54,870 they'll do example, the more recent I always do this, by the 1113 01:01:54,870 --> 01:01:58,560 way, I think people out there should do this. When you go into 1114 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,770 a line, I'm looking at a line a bunch of Costco lines and, and 1115 01:02:01,770 --> 01:02:04,050 I'm always kind of making a judgement. You know, there's I'm 1116 01:02:04,050 --> 01:02:06,090 not knocking that this is where I could get myself into trouble. 1117 01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:08,070 We're making some generalities here, but I'm not going to do 1118 01:02:08,070 --> 01:02:13,230 it. But I will spot the guy or the girl who are just kicking 1119 01:02:13,290 --> 01:02:15,750 ass they are moving the line and you're 1120 01:02:16,409 --> 01:02:20,309 you're always looking for the for the man that just recently. 1121 01:02:20,849 --> 01:02:25,799 He is about to lose. Yeah. Okay. Oh, wait, came back. Maybe. 1122 01:02:27,209 --> 01:02:27,779 Okay, yeah, 1123 01:02:27,810 --> 01:02:31,230 I got okay. So this guy is checking me out. You know, I'm 1124 01:02:31,230 --> 01:02:34,320 getting we're running up my belt while taking the card with his 1125 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,310 other hand with the other guy and starting his checking him 1126 01:02:38,310 --> 01:02:42,240 out while he's still finishing me. And I'm out of there. I pass 1127 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,000 up everybody this in all the other lines and I went out and 1128 01:02:45,060 --> 01:02:48,330 what I want to tell people to do when you run into this, tell the 1129 01:02:48,330 --> 01:02:52,740 guy. Well, I would wish to I'd say, look, you're the best 1130 01:02:52,740 --> 01:02:58,290 checker in the entire place today. You kick ass. I really 1131 01:02:58,290 --> 01:02:59,280 appreciate it. 1132 01:02:59,460 --> 01:03:01,650 And let me let me tell you, John, I've I've run several 1133 01:03:01,650 --> 01:03:06,840 businesses. The last one was 750 people in like, seven different 1134 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,290 countries. And you're always looking for these people. If you 1135 01:03:10,290 --> 01:03:13,500 look at me vo right now, we have such a I mean, the ethnic 1136 01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:17,490 backgrounds and race and creed and colour and sexuality and, 1137 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,020 and just everything is so diverse. In fact, we're so 1138 01:03:22,020 --> 01:03:24,390 diverse that we're like a petri dish, because everyone's always 1139 01:03:24,390 --> 01:03:26,610 coming in with some exotic fucking flu bug. And we're 1140 01:03:26,610 --> 01:03:29,910 always sick all the time. But these people, the people you 1141 01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:32,940 have, you want them to kick ass. You want them to go that extra 1142 01:03:32,940 --> 01:03:37,350 mile. By the way, that is a very American thing. I don't have to 1143 01:03:37,350 --> 01:03:41,070 ask anyone in our company, if we're doing something to stay 1144 01:03:41,070 --> 01:03:43,410 until six or seven, they're doing it because they want to do 1145 01:03:43,410 --> 01:03:45,570 it and they want to be there. And otherwise it usually doesn't 1146 01:03:45,570 --> 01:03:49,110 work out pretty quickly. In Europe. Are you kidding me? Five 1147 01:03:49,110 --> 01:03:51,720 minutes to five. Hey, I got my coat on. I'm going home now. 1148 01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:54,420 Yeah, we'll start again tomorrow. That is truly an 1149 01:03:54,420 --> 01:03:55,350 American trait. 1150 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,010 Right? Well, that. But I believe that's true, because they have a 1151 01:03:59,010 --> 01:04:02,580 different ethos. But the fact that what I'm what the point I'm 1152 01:04:02,580 --> 01:04:04,860 trying to make is that when you run into one of these people, 1153 01:04:04,860 --> 01:04:08,580 that is just astonishing worker that has gotten you out of the 1154 01:04:08,580 --> 01:04:12,840 store faster by five or minutes or more, you should say 1155 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,200 something to them. Because they really and I've always found 1156 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,530 this to be the case. If somebody gets a compliment out of the 1157 01:04:19,530 --> 01:04:24,210 blue from somebody for doing a really good job, they love it. 1158 01:04:24,390 --> 01:04:28,500 And it costs him better. Of course, with nobody very few 1159 01:04:28,500 --> 01:04:30,990 people do that. Oh, we've gotten to the culture of here's some 1160 01:04:30,990 --> 01:04:34,020 money, or here's a bullshit title. That's a good one. 1161 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,220 They're gonna make you will make you a VP which means new 1162 01:04:38,220 --> 01:04:41,550 business cards. Congratulations, by 1163 01:04:41,550 --> 01:04:43,650 the way, every time everyone knows gets promoted like that, I 1164 01:04:43,650 --> 01:04:46,050 would say was that in lieu of pay? 1165 01:04:47,070 --> 01:04:48,150 Get No money? 1166 01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:50,100 No, I gotta cut and pay as a matter of 1167 01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:52,950 fact, that's why you know, just when when you're in but even at 1168 01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:55,890 the gas station, man anywhere if someone does if someone's 1169 01:04:55,890 --> 01:04:57,660 serving you, thank them. 1170 01:04:59,159 --> 01:05:02,969 Well treated regularly, if they are beat a lot of these guys 1171 01:05:02,969 --> 01:05:05,879 out, I've been that I like to comment, or you can tell they're 1172 01:05:05,879 --> 01:05:09,569 competitive. And they are trying to get they're just doing, 1173 01:05:09,629 --> 01:05:12,509 they're competitive, they're doing it. Because they really 1174 01:05:12,509 --> 01:05:15,659 like to compete. They want to be the best checker. Because what 1175 01:05:15,659 --> 01:05:17,339 else is there to do? If you're What if you're working at a 1176 01:05:17,339 --> 01:05:20,159 Costco check line with a bunch of 25 other people doing it? 1177 01:05:20,399 --> 01:05:23,459 What else is there to have? You know, you're just checking. But 1178 01:05:23,519 --> 01:05:26,039 if you're like checking 10 times more people than anybody else, 1179 01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:28,829 that's kind of cool. Now, it doesn't really take any, you're 1180 01:05:28,829 --> 01:05:31,199 still there, you might as well just do it as best you can. Let 1181 01:05:31,199 --> 01:05:32,969 me ask you a question. These are the people that need a 1182 01:05:32,969 --> 01:05:34,199 compliment. So when, 1183 01:05:34,770 --> 01:05:37,920 when they when you when you? Okay, so here's here's a tough 1184 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,640 one, when you encounter someone who was clearly not doing a good 1185 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:48,030 job of service, do you? I mean, do you just get into major 1186 01:05:48,030 --> 01:05:49,830 negative mode? Or do you say, Hey, 1187 01:05:49,830 --> 01:05:51,960 are you okay? Or do you say, hey, maybe 1188 01:05:51,959 --> 01:05:53,999 if you did it this way, it would be a little bit more pleasurable 1189 01:05:53,999 --> 01:05:54,719 for now. No, no, 1190 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:59,640 no, you can't do that. I mean, I tried fact, today, I went to a 1191 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,950 little place where they sell vegetables called Monterey 1192 01:06:01,950 --> 01:06:05,520 foods. And there's one grumpy old Chinese woman there. There's 1193 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,980 older than anybody in the place, and she doesn't like to work. 1194 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,630 Got everybody's got two or three people in all the lines, and 1195 01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:15,780 she's got nobody there. So I went in there, and it's like, 1196 01:06:15,780 --> 01:06:19,320 she's yakking with somebody else, and Cantonese. And she, 1197 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,870 you know, doesn't know the price is I don't know what she's even 1198 01:06:21,870 --> 01:06:27,330 doing there. And she's flow and she sucks. And it's just 1199 01:06:27,330 --> 01:06:30,540 horrible. And you know, and what am I supposed to say to her? You 1200 01:06:30,540 --> 01:06:31,740 suck suck you? 1201 01:06:31,739 --> 01:06:32,759 Well, bit. 1202 01:06:33,060 --> 01:06:35,250 I mean, I couldn't do that. I mean, it's just like, I can't 1203 01:06:35,250 --> 01:06:38,040 just use don't go to her line, just to, you know, compliment 1204 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,150 people for doing a good job. But you can't really say you suck to 1205 01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:44,070 everybody who doesn't do a good job, because that's all you'd be 1206 01:06:44,070 --> 01:06:45,630 doing all the time. Because most people are. 1207 01:06:48,719 --> 01:06:51,599 A classic John C. Dvorak moment, ladies and gentlemen, do you 1208 01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:54,089 want to go out on a hike? Or do you want to talk about food? 1209 01:06:54,329 --> 01:06:56,129 Because that was just that was too good, man. 1210 01:06:56,430 --> 01:06:58,710 Well, we might as well quit because we got a bunch of foods 1211 01:06:58,740 --> 01:07:01,770 talk coming up. I was thinking about it. We got one restaurant 1212 01:07:01,770 --> 01:07:05,310 or two maybe reviews in the can too. And then we got we're gonna 1213 01:07:05,310 --> 01:07:09,930 try to do some stuff next week, maybe something tomorrow. And I 1214 01:07:09,930 --> 01:07:12,150 was thinking about why it was, you know, we can do a lot of 1215 01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:15,600 food talking. I was, I was considering why do people care 1216 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,080 about us? Reviewing a restaurant San Francisco, we have an 1217 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,480 international audience. There's people all over the and it's 1218 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,270 not, it's about the food, I think it's not about the food is 1219 01:07:24,270 --> 01:07:27,900 about the it's about the details of the you know, it's like the 1220 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,380 what, what makes it good, which people should be looking for or 1221 01:07:31,380 --> 01:07:33,060 what we complain about. I don't know what it is. 1222 01:07:33,570 --> 01:07:36,090 I think I think people inherently realise you are what 1223 01:07:36,090 --> 01:07:39,180 you eat, and people are event people are switching on to the 1224 01:07:39,180 --> 01:07:42,090 idea that we're eating crap, we're just putting shit into our 1225 01:07:42,090 --> 01:07:45,840 bodies. And I think there's a there's part of that, John, I 1226 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:46,890 think people do care. Just 1227 01:07:46,890 --> 01:07:49,440 part of that, in essence is also the one thing we do I think, 1228 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:50,430 together on 1229 01:07:51,150 --> 01:07:52,560 our own where I live on our own 1230 01:07:53,370 --> 01:07:56,250 once in a while nobody else does, is that I think we're 1231 01:07:56,250 --> 01:08:00,600 meta. I think we actually kind of bring ourselves into kind of 1232 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,650 an overview that is maybe different than what anybody else 1233 01:08:04,650 --> 01:08:07,410 does in this regard. And I think it's entertaining enough to 1234 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:08,790 tolerate it 1235 01:08:08,820 --> 01:08:13,260 the only thing that that I think will be a bummer for know most 1236 01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:17,280 most of our non you pretty much everyone who is listening to the 1237 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,700 show, I'm sure they they watched the debate the Europeans Of 1238 01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:24,360 course it was on the middle of the night. So I wonder and you 1239 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,020 let us know you know how, how it related? How that worked for you 1240 01:08:28,050 --> 01:08:30,570 because you probably only got to see some sound bites and those 1241 01:08:30,570 --> 01:08:33,240 of course have already been filtered. Because you know who's 1242 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,450 gonna sit through an hour and a half of of a debate that isn't 1243 01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:38,790 there isn't live anymore. You know, we're just gonna get all 1244 01:08:38,790 --> 01:08:41,640 the sound bites will be interesting to see what the the 1245 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,410 international audience thinks about this. 1246 01:08:47,580 --> 01:08:49,260 You're back. There we go. 1247 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,680 I don't know what you caught. I think I think I dropped off. 1248 01:08:52,710 --> 01:08:56,940 Well, anyway, John would say coming to you from Gitmo nation, 1249 01:08:57,060 --> 01:09:00,540 West. John C. Dvorak and my name is Adam curry. We'll talk to you 1250 01:09:00,540 --> 01:09:03,240 again real soon right here on no agenda.