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From behind the invisible bars
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called Gitmo nation. This is
your weekly tune up. We call it

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no agenda coming to you from a
sunny southern England in Gitmo

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nation east. I'm Adam curry.

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And in get mon nation West, also
known as Northern Silicon

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Valley, a place doesn't exist.
It doesn't exist. But I tell

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people to tell the cab driver to
take you there.

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John, let me start this week
show off with some excellent

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news.

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You ready? Okay.

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We have now reached over 100,000
listeners per episode. Oh, we

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have in fact, two weeks ago we
did 100 It's progressive,

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obviously. So you know, people
are behind and catch up. Two

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weeks ago we did 135,000. And
we're already over 101,000 For

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last week.

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Well, I think we did. All we
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to double. And we need to get to
a quarter of a million this

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Yeah, that's our next milestone.
But you know what, we didn't

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even do anything. We just
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Now we did one week. Remember,
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tell. Yeah, but

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that's different. You know, you
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getting celebrity guests on, you
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All kinds of fabulous plans.

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Just goes we're too lazy.

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That would be it too busy or
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can really tell though the
audience is up because I'm

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getting more hate mail than
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Oh, hate mail. That's a good
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What is with the hate

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a lot of hate? Interestingly
enough about my comments on

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vaccination. Oh, right. I mean,
like a lot of people in the

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Ages say I don't even remember
you had talked on this show? Or

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was it daily source code?

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No. Well, it's been back and
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briefly last week. In fact, one
of those emails you were copied

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on? And I can't remember what it
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it was me saying something to
the effect of don't let the

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government stick needles in your
children. Oh, yeah. So anyway,

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but it's just, you know, after
doing this for well, doing

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podcasts for four years, been in
radio since I was 15. You know,

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when the audience grows, you can
just feel it. So welcome,

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everybody.

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Come on out. We'll be correct
now will suck. Yeah,

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exactly. Come in to Uncle Ernie,
his holiday camp where we fiddle

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about.

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So I understand. It was really
still it was like lousy weather

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back. There was where people
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are being closed. Yeah,

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unbelievably, today has been
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in the Midlands, and in the
north, where that always

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happens, just because of the
geography, flooding. But the

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weather has just been extremely
bad. Until of course they

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flipped on the Large Hadron
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enough. So that gives us some
good, but now the worst thing

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actually is the wheat crop. And
they're not no one's really

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talking about that here. But you
can say to grow wheat. Yeah. For

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for bread and stuff. In England.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, what do

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you think they make those crop
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would be it could be some

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so so the problem is that the
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third of the of the normal crop
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of wheat are now triple what
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they're gearing up to import
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interestingly enough, who had a
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Better than normal, but it's
rough man. Because I mean, yeah,

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it's, you think just bread but I
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stuff. So it is going to impact
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Yeah, well, the funny thing is
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That well. Look at gasoline
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down gasoline going up. It makes
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My gasoline is going down around
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talking about. The oil prices
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right now it seems just
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it's got to be like 95 or
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going to slide all the way down
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Eye that'd be nice if it gets
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that direction.

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They're doing all these things
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they're freaked. Well,

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I was talking to my, my buddy,
my Halliburton friend who works

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for a UK company which does all
infrastructure for oil drilling

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projects. He knows a lot about
this stuff. And that he says

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that today to get oil out of the
ground, the actual

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infrastructure and people It's
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$45 per barrel just to get it
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that if you if you're trying to
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as an example. And that's
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equipment isn't there, the
people aren't there, they cannot

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recruit and recruit enough
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the work. I mean, it's a it's
unbelievable the supply and

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demand of the workforce and the
materials has just boosted that

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price the ground floor base
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I wonder what they pay somebody
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Oh, it's huge money. Oh, dude, I
know, a cab driver. Now a taxi

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Eric, who you will meet when you
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be driving you around. And he
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drilling platforms and the North
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think was two weeks on one week
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great money. He said he had to
stop because it was just it was

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freaking him out how dangerous
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like, like this

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crowd. It was great money. I
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here? At least

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double what he's making on the
cab. So you know, for manual

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labour, I think great work.

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Now we need to get some
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I'll ask him. I'll ask him. But

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I know the guys who have a
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going to Iraq and they live in
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contractors. Huge

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money, I'll

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bet huge money hundreds of 1000s
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I've actually heard that there
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like $35,000 spot bonuses to
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Iraq. Well, that's the surge.

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Maybe it's just a surge of money
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and money surge. That's right.
Speaking of of oil and and

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surge, the big news this weekend
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is the bankruptcy of X L.
Travel.

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XL XL. What

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XL? I think it's travel or
aviation. And let me see. I

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think it's a package tour
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And why would that be big news?
Because 89 We get Lehmann

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Brothers going

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down. Oh, wait, let's listen to
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a second. Lien. XL is 89,000
Britons who are now in vacation

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destinations who can't get back.
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problem?

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That's a good number. 89

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years 50,000 passengers stranded
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operators 10,000 who booked with
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a combo deal. Where you can get
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Are these like? Oh shit, I'm
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connection got weird. It's okay.
I got you. The Are these like

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charter flights? Is that the
reason? Because normally when I

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booked through if I booked
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me some tickets, I have a ticket
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it's kind of an interesting
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they typically book vacations
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just book a flight because
they're they're so big. They had

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200,000 advanced bookings those
people their money's gone. The

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guy the chairman Philip what he
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literally crying. Although I
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the hell is the regulator over
here doing if these guys were in

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such dire straits, you'd think
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their maintenance and some other
stuff. They knew

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about it. So what was the the
the rationale for the folding

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Oh, well, so they had they've
converted a line of credit from

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Barclays into a loan and then
Barclays said Okay, that's it,

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no more money and all of their
suppliers, ie landing fees,

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airports, etc. And of course,
fuel required immediate Pash

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cash payments. And so it just,
you know, it's just that magical

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moment. Barclays just Yeah.
Yeah. Thanks to Barclays, I

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would say well, you know, but
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currently the thing that's
gotten so expensive for these

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for any airline certainly in
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what's really killing everybody.
And sorry, the co2 tax

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his words his words headed here
to this some bogus tax Yeah,

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hey, let's see. Let me see here.
Let's look at us can we tax

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these guys for you know, I liked
a co2 idea because it's kind of

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so nebulous, you know, you can't
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So let's just tax them for for
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being taxed for the gas when
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account for this. No, no, no,
let's just make another tax out

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of the blue and we'll call it
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complain about it because all
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I'm sure you blogged this
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who it was. It was some official
and he came out and said, You

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need to eat less meat to save on
carbon emissions. Did you? Did

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you read that story? And yeah,
it's like an amazing it's like,

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you know, because this is what's
gonna happen next. First,

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they're going to absolutely
they're going to say, look,

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okay, you've got for 400 head of
cattle. They all take a dump

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about six times.

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I'm telling you, this is a bunch
of vegetarian, vegan, vegan,

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whatever you want to call them
people behind all this.

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It's the greenies ma'am, them
greenies. So the next thing of

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course, as they've, as they've
now successfully taxed, one of

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the four elements of life being
sunlight, water, oxygen, and

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carbon dioxide, is you're going
to be taxed on how much you

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speak.

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It could be we're toast the only
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yeah. particularly well, we get
double tax because what comes

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out of our mouth is bullshit,
which is also of course harmful

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to the environment. Methane.
It's a it's a lethal methane and

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meeting from their offices. Hmm.
All right. You ready for Lehman

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Brothers? Is that bottom there
yet? John, you sure you think

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you think there's a bottom here?

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Yeah, we're bouncing around and
I can feel it.

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Dude, it's Lehman. Is Washington
Mutual? It's Merrill Lynch. And

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this morning I know if you've
read the papers yet. The so

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first the Congressional Budget.
What does it office nothing or

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oversight. Nuttall guy or
whatever it Nussle whatever his

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name is, he said, Oh, I think
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

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should be on the books of the US
government. And boy that got

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turned around. Someone held a
gun to his head that I don't

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think you'd really want to say
that dude. So now he's he's

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pulled back. It's funny. This
guy is a total, total reptilian.

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He's an insider. He used to work
at the Treasury. His wife is

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connected, looking for his name.
But it's that's pretty big to

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hear it is what's his name, Jim
Nussle, Director of the White

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House Office of Management and
Budget.

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Yeah, this guy should be told
not to talk to anybody ever.

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So the What's that? Well, that's
kind of his job. Oh, but the way

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I understand it is doesn't mean
he has to do it. That's true.

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The way I understand it, is that
the the Treasury is now of

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course, they're doing another
weekend deal. And Paulson has

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said, no way. We're not going to
bail him out. Lehman has the

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same debt window, you know, the
discount window facility. So you

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guys, you other bankers, let's
go figure it out. We split it up

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into pieces, and no one wants to
do it. Which means to me that

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this just either there's no
value left in the company, or

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it's too damn difficult to
actually figure out what the

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value is.

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So it was weird. That guy there
sucks. Some guy came up with a

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book on this. And on laming
going, or Lehman, whatever you

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want to call him going under,
about I was about five or three,

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four or five months ago, and he
was he was on CNBC being grilled

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by that morning crew. They were
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pretty, he says, here's the
questions that need to be

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answered. He was talking about
some things that were on the

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books that had no explanation.
And it's just a night I've

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talked to the company directly,
they've never answered these

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questions and bobble and these
guys were just kind of like

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grilling him as though you know,
this can't possibly be true. And

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I was kind of kind of stunned by
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stunned. But there's there's
there's still this this wishful

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thinking in the in the community
out there that people who who

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cover this topic for the public,
you know, on CNBC or wherever

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they are the and this includes
the thing about the oil

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manipulation that we've
documented to death and the fact

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that it was you know, this
illegal essentially speculation

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done

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a cover that's that's not the
real that's not what's really

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happening John is being
manipulated but the whole trader

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thing that's just a front I'm
convinced of it now. But anyway,

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the grass

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Yeah. And boy, you digressed
into the into the sea. What are

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you talking about?

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This is being minute this is not
being this is

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not, don't tell me that you
think it's space aliens?

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Only if you make my big if you
give me my theme tune? No, this

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is the IMF and the World Bank.
They're manipulating it. They

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know it. They know exactly what
they're doing. And they're doing

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it too and they're successful at
it because they're bankrupting

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the Middle East. They've look at
what's happened with Russia. A

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big part of it, of course is
because of the Georgia con

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flicked you know people are
going belly up their oil

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companies freaking out I thought
that I think there's this

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completely orchestrated and at
the same time what what is

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everyone calling for? What are
the Republicans calling for

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drill baby drill

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well orchestrated to what end
it's a financial orchestration

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fought to what end? to bankrupt
the Middle East. You said yeah

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to bankrupt the Middle East to
bankrupt Russia. to bankrupt to

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get rid of the I think the whole
financial I think the plan was,

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honestly now that I look at it.
The plan was probably to destroy

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the whole system to start off
with the whole system, the whole

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financial system and oil is tied
right into that it's money.

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But to what end?

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To what end to read well to kill
people.

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I mean, to what end, I mean,
there's got to be a

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tickle to guess the goal is to
kill people to reduce the

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Y or to reduce the population.
This is where you're going with

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this.

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That's that's certainly a
direction I'm starting to look.

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Yeah. Yeah, for sure. All right.
Well, I'm not quite I'm not

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quite ready to expand on it, but

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I will mull it over.

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It's all part of the same thing.
It's the same thing with the

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vaccinations.

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So how comes the letters? That's
why I mentioned it. So So what

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have you been drinking recently?

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No, man, nothing at all. I've
been smoked. I have no I haven't

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been smoking either.

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I'm Oh, maybe that's the problem
that I'm completely

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clear headed. Completely.

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So you're not drinking tea?
You're not? Actually today

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I have. I decided to change now.
I'm drinking coffee for the

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show.

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Oh, God.

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It's, well,

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if you're not a coffee
personality,

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you want to laugh? Of course.
Okay. So I've actually I decided

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to try out some of the freeze
dried coffee that I bought,

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which I've styled which I've
stocked up on with a number of

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other essential life saving
ingredients for when the food

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crisis hits Britain. So I can
make all kinds of stuff here at

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home and I figured I'd try some
see how it tastes and it's not

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bad

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you're drinking instant coffee.

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Freeze Dried yep

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that's all freeze dried
nowadays. I think farmers

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aperitive coffees left

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Oh, dude, here's the big news
from over here. Did you hear

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about the tunnel fire

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Yeah, I heard about that did get
in fact we blogged it that was

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pretty severe Yeah, I guess it
closed down that don't hold the

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one side of the tunnel that
track the transport side

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yeah for for this now going on
three days I mean, this thing

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burned for like nine hours 1000
degrees centigrade. And what's

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interesting to me John is not
one single newspaper and I just

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went to the newspaper stand to
pick up my my financial times

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weekly are weakened not one
single newspaper even hinted of

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terrorism even though there were
explosions that was fires all

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kinds of shit going on how come
no one talks about that how what

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is up with that

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you know there was some mention
of it in the in our side of the

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well not only it wasn't like
played up much I mean they mean

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Bush didn't come out or anything
I mean it was just kind of in

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passing and they decided it
wasn't what what was the final

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determination what causes fire

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they still have not been able to
explain that but they did there

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was there were all kinds of
chemicals toxic really toxic

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shit I could probably find
actually looked it up I forgot

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the name of it. phenol that's
what it was. phenol phenol?

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Yeah. phenol nasty stuff that's
in a very nasty stuff. There was

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a tanker full of phenol and then
that went out Oh,

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yeah, stuff that they shouldn't
allow that in the channel will

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take phenol on the on the on the
continent they don't need this

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ship wasn't coming from that.
Where was it coming from?

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Well, I guess it was coming from
the UK, but it's very easy to

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make I understand. Yeah. phenols

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is it's like a bike planter.
It's a common, commonly used

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chemical in the industrial and
chemical production of all kinds

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of things, plastics, drugs, and
everything else. Yeah,

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they also used to work with
injecting people in a world war

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two and kill them. According to
ways

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to work with this stuff in Union
oil is very interesting. One of

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the things about it is you it's
like a lot of these other

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chemicals, you anyone who's been
a professional chemist for any

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period of time realise that they
all do this. Especially when

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you're working with some of
these these toxic materials you

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use. You're sniffing yourself
constantly, because this stuff

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splashes you get like little
micro micro droplets on

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yourself. Yeah. And, and you'll
you'll, you'll sniff your your

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hand you'll just be sniffing
away all over your hand just to

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see if you can spot At a micro
droplet of phenol, if it lands

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on you because our

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cement and burn into your flesh.

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Well, it does a little bit I
mean, just the little, it does,

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but you can smell it, it has
this very distinctive odour,

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it's actually quasi pleasant.
And then you just wash it off or

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you put some, you know, some
something to counteract it just

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to change its structure. But
you'd get the you know, you do

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that. But phenol is the problem
with phenols. It turns into

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apparently, when it gives
absorbed through the skin. This

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is from years ago, I can't
remember the details, but as

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absorbed into the skin is the
problem if you get it on you.

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And it is slightly corrosive,
but it gets on your gets into

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your system. And then it turns
it goes through the liver and

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kidneys and turns into benzene,
which is very, really a bad

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thing to have in inside you. And
it's carcinogenic. So

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I'm told I'm reliably informed.
So I don't know. But yeah, I'm

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looking at the most recent
article, see if they have any

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news on on what caused it. But
some of the eyewitness accounts

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were that there were multiple
explosions. Here today it says

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temperatures reached as high as
1000 degrees Celsius, according

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to the French interior minister.
But

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that's interesting, because I
don't see what you get

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exploiting that, you know,
unless you're getting some kind

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of weird reactions. I mean, what
kind of chemicals are they

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carrying in these tankers?
Because phenol is not explosive?

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You know, per se.

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I'll have to I'll have to look
that was in yesterday's paper. I

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think so apparently they they
said it was going to resume this

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morning. I haven't heard a news
report that actually did resume

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yet. But I saw all the all the
lorries as we call them all

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lined up, and I'm like, Whoa,
man that could disrupt the

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supplies?

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Well, you know, it seems to me
that that if it was terrorism,

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they would have made a big deal
about it.

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Or maybe it was actually, you
know, like a real honest mistake

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and something went wrong. And it
wasn't one of those planned

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false flag operations that they
usually dish out. And they

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didn't have time to get to the
press office for this one.

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You know, that did most of your
stuff was pretty wacky. But that

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one that's out there, right? I
mean, that was that's within the

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range of well, you know, it's
possible.

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Well, let's talk for a second
about the liquid bombers on

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aeroplanes. Then another huge
new story this week in the

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United Kingdom. I hope that
trickled over to this one.

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You're kidding me? Oh, my
goodness, more liquid bombers.

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No, this must be shaken. Bottles
of we're gonna love this. So

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they convicted out of the seven
guys, the ringleader, they had

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to let go. He didn't you know,
they couldn't convict him of

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anything. They can, they could
only convict three of these

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guys. And from the documents is
now apparent that they had not

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built a single bomb. Most of
them did not have passports,

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they certainly had not booked
any tickets. And the jury said

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we cannot convict them of even
plotting to blow up aeroplanes

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by carrying liquids and onto the
aircraft and mixing them on

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board. So they were convicted of
conspiring, murderous action.

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And these guys, these guys
themselves say, well, we just

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want to make a little bang
somewhere in London to get

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attention for some kind of
documentary they were making or

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something, which is why you
know, they had this high quality

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jihadist videos. Of course, I
can't understand what they're

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saying. But I'm told that
they're jihadist videos. So they

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know that these guys were making
it like a movie or a documentary

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and they were clearly twisted.
But they were not, according to

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the jury not contemplating
blowing up aeroplanes with

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liquid bombs. So Virgin Atlantic
is the first one love these

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guys, the first ones who come
out and say, okay, great, that's

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fantastic. Now that that's all
settled, can we please stop the

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ridiculous fucking bullshit of
no more than 100 millilitres of

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liquid being carried on to the
plane and you know what the

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response was from the government
or from the court? We got to

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retry these guys. Literally,
they're gonna retry them. I

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mean, double jeopardy has
already gone here. It's like,

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okay, you were convicted, you're
guilty, but none of that. Well,

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we got to go back again. I'm
sorry. And fully before these

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guys were let let go free, not
convicted. They could

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probably trump up some new
charges. I mean, the great thing

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about today's legal system is
that if you to double jeopardy

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thing has always been a craw or
a crisis a stone in the craw I

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can't remember the phrase it's
always gotten the thorn in the

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side it's a thorn in the side
there we go of these prosecutors

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and so that you make the law so
complicated that if you can't

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you okay you're you're out on
law you know, sections this is

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this but there's section this
lesson is we're going to refile

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with a different you know,
charge, you know, like the one

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you said they got convicted of
planning murderous acts or

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talking badly about the bride
and

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exhaling Do to you dirty
bastards. So I

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mean, there's essentially
there's there's an limitless

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number of laws that you can be
prosecuted under if somebody's

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out to get you. And you know, or
to make a point now that there

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must be some other reason to
keep these liquids off of

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planes. I can think of one, I've
travelled with people who

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overpack and bring entire
bottles of shampoo that are like

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this huge bottle of some shampoo
you get on sale at Costco that's

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got a pump at the top, and they
pack it with theirs suitcase and

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luggage and they go to, you
know, the Europe for three days,

448
00:25:36,210 --> 00:25:39,480
with this big giant bottle of
shampoo or whatever it is. I

449
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,780
mean, there's, I think anything
to encourage people to travel

450
00:25:42,780 --> 00:25:46,800
lightly charging for extra bags.
I'm all for it. charging for

451
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,920
extra bag, keep the liquids off
the planes, it's mostly to keep

452
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,270
people from overpacking.

453
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,710
Oh, okay. All right. I see it a
little bit differently. Just a

454
00:25:58,710 --> 00:26:03,150
little bit. No, I'm, you know,
and it's weird. Because you

455
00:26:03,150 --> 00:26:05,820
think to yourself, well, oh, you
know, great, they can actually,

456
00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:09,690
you know, so it wasn't a threat.
The scientists are on record now

457
00:26:09,690 --> 00:26:13,350
in in, you know, mainstream
newspapers saying, look, it's

458
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:17,190
just really not that easy to go
mix up something powerful enough

459
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:21,990
on an aeroplane with multiple
elements. And then you think to

460
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:24,150
yourself, well, great now, so
they can just remove all that

461
00:26:24,150 --> 00:26:27,420
those stupid restrictions, and
in the back, but in the back of

462
00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:30,570
your mind, you've got something
going like, Well, shit, you

463
00:26:30,570 --> 00:26:34,680
know, maybe we've even I've been
conditioned at this point.

464
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,170
Yeah, well, yeah. Well,
everybody has them. And that's

465
00:26:37,170 --> 00:26:39,360
the idea. We're just a bunch of
robots. But you know, the funny

466
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:42,510
thing that joke of this is, is
you can make a pretty damn good

467
00:26:42,510 --> 00:26:46,140
explosive with three ounces of I
can name a couple of chemicals

468
00:26:46,590 --> 00:26:49,860
that are liquid that would blow
the back of the plane off. I

469
00:26:49,860 --> 00:26:52,200
mean, it's just so the whole
thing is bull.

470
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:55,710
Yeah, I mean, of course, it's
all Bull. I still love Heathrow

471
00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:59,400
Airport, where you where you go
through X ray. And then you go

472
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,150
through an passport exit, where
they would basically some

473
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:06,600
monkeys sitting there just
comparing the name on your

474
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,730
passport to the name on your
ticket, but they look all

475
00:27:08,730 --> 00:27:10,290
official and scary and show

476
00:27:10,290 --> 00:27:13,230
now they're holding it up to
you, which cracks me yeah, let

477
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:15,990
me hold that up to the light for
a second here. Let me just

478
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:19,230
compare Oh, yes, well, could you
please take off your glasses.

479
00:27:19,530 --> 00:27:22,200
Now whatever they've got,
they've also got this, at least

480
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,510
in the States, or they got this
little now that all of a sudden

481
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:27,450
they only have this little blue
light of some sort and they scan

482
00:27:27,450 --> 00:27:30,180
it over your driver's licence
looking for the code on your I

483
00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:31,380
don't know what the hell they're
doing.

484
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,860
And then you're supposed to walk
straight into this into a

485
00:27:34,860 --> 00:27:38,100
fishnet like trap where there's
another x ray machine but that's

486
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:42,510
only for shoes and I've made it
a sport and I get away with it

487
00:27:42,510 --> 00:27:45,060
every single time you know, so
there's someone there who's

488
00:27:45,060 --> 00:27:49,530
supposed to corral these eight
lines of passport exit stands

489
00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:54,060
into the shoe X ray line. Now
right off to the right hand side

490
00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:00,150
is a urologist Jones we can you
know exchange money and so

491
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,330
either I'll walk straight that
way and then pretend that I'm

492
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,900
looking at the exchange rate and
then just walk through or if

493
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:09,600
they're looking at me I'll
fumble around with my bag or you

494
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,120
know with my with my passport or
whatever, and I'll just wait

495
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,400
until they're not looking and
then I just walk right past is

496
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,670
total horseshit. told no

497
00:28:17,670 --> 00:28:19,890
no we we don't have I don't know
who would know what is this

498
00:28:19,890 --> 00:28:23,070
again? You have a separate thing
at the end because we our shoes

499
00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:24,180
are taken off i No,

500
00:28:24,209 --> 00:28:27,689
no, no, no, no, no, they decided
this is very British of course

501
00:28:27,689 --> 00:28:31,079
because nowhere this is at
Heathrow. Yes, the taking off a

502
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:35,729
terminal one or two. Okay, the
taking off of the shoes is of

503
00:28:35,729 --> 00:28:38,939
course a big pain in the ass
because there's really no place

504
00:28:38,939 --> 00:28:41,609
there's no infrastructure in
Heathrow, which is a shambles.

505
00:28:41,609 --> 00:28:46,259
Anyway, to put your shoes back
on. So what they do is you go

506
00:28:46,259 --> 00:28:49,259
through the regular x ray.
Interestingly enough, you don't

507
00:28:49,259 --> 00:28:51,869
have to take your laptop out of
your bag at Heathrow just to

508
00:28:51,869 --> 00:28:56,099
show you the inconsistency. And
then they have a separate X ray

509
00:28:56,099 --> 00:28:58,799
where you take off your shoes,
put your shoes through the X

510
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:01,799
ray, and then they have little
seats there so you can sit down

511
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:04,859
and put your shoes back on. So
it's they're trying to do it to

512
00:29:04,859 --> 00:29:06,389
make it more comfortable for
you.

513
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,860
By the way, that's the guy that
we should go find and beat up

514
00:29:10,860 --> 00:29:12,210
which is that shoe bomber.

515
00:29:12,750 --> 00:29:15,720
Really well we should stop with
one shit too. That's just

516
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,070
outrageous stupid.

517
00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:20,100
I know but the fact is a guy
who's triggered it I think we

518
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:22,500
should when these guys trigger
these things and I would include

519
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:25,770
those those liquid bomber guys.
I think they should be put in

520
00:29:25,770 --> 00:29:31,260
stocks place there should be
like an area that should be a

521
00:29:31,260 --> 00:29:33,360
resistance there. You know,
there's public shame anyway.

522
00:29:33,690 --> 00:29:36,450
Yeah, shouldn't be it's an area
where you can't get right up to

523
00:29:36,450 --> 00:29:38,940
him and punch him. But you can
throw things at him.

524
00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:43,800
public shaming I'm all for it.
I've also always said that I'm

525
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,090
all for Papa executions being
aired on primetime in the United

526
00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:48,240
States

527
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,720
and me both but I think I mean,
I I've thought about this and I

528
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,090
think a lot of people have but
everyone Oh, it's too sick.

529
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,410
Yeah, yeah, right.

530
00:29:57,210 --> 00:29:59,970
Point. Do you think it will
might be some bit of a detour?

531
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,050
Aren't you think it might work?
You know, we show everything

532
00:30:04,050 --> 00:30:07,170
else we show all the trials, we
showed, you know, well, we don't

533
00:30:07,170 --> 00:30:09,870
even show dead military
personnel anymore. But we show

534
00:30:09,870 --> 00:30:14,640
all the gore and horror, but we
actually put, you know, a, some

535
00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:19,410
some, some law into effect where
to put it to show it on

536
00:30:19,410 --> 00:30:22,140
television. In fact, I'd be more
than happy to produce that show.

537
00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:25,710
It's a great reality show. It's
called on death row. And in the

538
00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:30,120
end, you know, how it ends. Each
episode ends the same way.

539
00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:32,760
You know, the thing is that
that's the interesting thing

540
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,330
here is that the people had
there's a pro and con when it

541
00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:40,080
comes to like the death penalty.
And everybody who's against it

542
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,330
says, you know, it's determined
it's not a deterrent, it's not a

543
00:30:42,330 --> 00:30:45,480
deterrent. And the fact of the
matter is, is not a deterrent,

544
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,220
because nobody sees it. Yeah. I
mean, it's just a theoretical

545
00:30:50,220 --> 00:30:52,140
thing. You know, it's like,
well, you can just a death

546
00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:54,810
penalty. Okay. The guy was
executed. Remember how few

547
00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:56,280
protesters up front and

548
00:30:56,459 --> 00:30:59,189
remember how shocked we all were
at the I was thinking about this

549
00:30:59,189 --> 00:31:01,799
just the other day about the
Saddam Hussein hanging video?

550
00:31:02,429 --> 00:31:05,459
Yeah, but you know what? There's
a lot as a lot of young kids who

551
00:31:05,459 --> 00:31:07,979
are going shit, man, I ain't
going to become Saddam Hussein.

552
00:31:08,309 --> 00:31:12,599
That fucking blows. I think I
think and by the way, I'm

553
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:16,889
against corporal punishment.
Just so I call corporate.

554
00:31:17,850 --> 00:31:21,630
Corporate. Corporate. What kind
of punishment are you again?

555
00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:21,900
Subtle

556
00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:22,680
punishment.

557
00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:24,000
Oh, there we go.

558
00:31:24,150 --> 00:31:29,970
We're corporal punishments.
Okay. I'm totally against taking

559
00:31:30,030 --> 00:31:32,820
a life for any reason
whatsoever. But since we're

560
00:31:32,820 --> 00:31:35,760
doing this stupidity, maybe we'd
get a different idea if we

561
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,830
actually showed what that
entails when you see people who

562
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:41,010
are flopping around when one
injection isn't enough. You

563
00:31:41,010 --> 00:31:43,830
know, show that go ahead, show
it show what it really means to

564
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:47,220
kill a human being. The electric
chair would be the one to go

565
00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:49,230
exactly show that with their
eyes popping out.

566
00:31:49,890 --> 00:31:52,470
I think the guillotine might be
interesting to hell in a

567
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:53,220
handbasket.

568
00:31:53,370 --> 00:31:56,310
There you go. That's the name of
the show. To hell in a

569
00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:59,940
handbasket. A new reality show
this season on Fox?

570
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:03,930
It would be hot people would.
Although you'll be I don't know.

571
00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:07,200
You know, it'd be interesting to
see, just as an expensive

572
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,950
sociological experiment. I
wonder what kind of ratings it

573
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:13,830
would get what would the family
sit around and watch and make

574
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:14,820
the kids watch

575
00:32:14,850 --> 00:32:20,100
it would be through the roof
through the roof. And it just

576
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:24,570
amazes me that I got hooked into
watching a whole bunch of videos

577
00:32:24,570 --> 00:32:28,890
from tmz.com. Yesterday,
Patricia is recording another

578
00:32:28,890 --> 00:32:31,770
show in Holland. So you know,
there's no one to talk to. And

579
00:32:31,860 --> 00:32:34,350
my daughter is she's 18 She
doesn't get shit about me.

580
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,950
And oh, poor Adams Home Alone

581
00:32:38,010 --> 00:32:45,570
is right. Just mean my gold. And
so I bought my Krugerrands so

582
00:32:45,570 --> 00:32:48,210
I'm, I'm sitting around and I'm
watching these videos and have

583
00:32:48,210 --> 00:32:51,900
you ever watched this TMZ stuff?
It's It's really amazing.

584
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:57,420
Because here people who are so
brash and so mean, and and you

585
00:32:57,420 --> 00:33:00,360
know these paparazzi, they as
paparazzi is a big word, it's

586
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,750
just, you know, idiots with a
with a video camera. And they'll

587
00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:06,510
they'll stick this camera in a
celebrity's face and ask all

588
00:33:06,510 --> 00:33:09,840
these horrible questions. You
know, just just egging them on

589
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,620
to either, you know, grab the
camera or, or say something that

590
00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:16,170
or that, of course will be, you
know, headline news. And that's

591
00:33:16,170 --> 00:33:18,060
what these guys want, because
then they get to sell their

592
00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:21,360
video all over the world or
their photos or whatever. And

593
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,480
there's, there's so many of
these people attacking these

594
00:33:24,510 --> 00:33:28,260
celebrities and D liberties but
not and about one of them has

595
00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:32,610
the fucking courage to do it to
like a politician, you know, and

596
00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:35,670
really hound a politician and
ask them the really tough

597
00:33:35,670 --> 00:33:40,380
questions when it's just
outrageous to see that we've got

598
00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:42,780
the people with the equipment,
we've got the people who do the

599
00:33:42,780 --> 00:33:47,160
research, okay, it's research on
Lindsay Lohan. But they're doing

600
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,220
the research. Why can't we get
them to do that about real

601
00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:52,350
things that matter? Real News.

602
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:56,220
I think the politicians who had
to be a backlash, I think they

603
00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:59,160
did pass legislation to screw
these guys, they'd be out of

604
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,480
business. They don't want that.

605
00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:05,790
Well, that legislation will be
interesting to see. At least it

606
00:34:05,790 --> 00:34:06,630
would be honest.

607
00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:10,620
I don't know. It's something so
I'm never expecting to see what

608
00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:13,020
you're describing, which would
be good. I mean, that's the what

609
00:34:13,020 --> 00:34:15,360
should be happening. I mean, I
mean, Reese Of course, you know,

610
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,930
the thing going on here is still
the never ending hounding of

611
00:34:18,930 --> 00:34:19,290
Sarah

612
00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:21,750
Palin. Yeah, and I've been
following that it's the same

613
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:24,600
over here. They don't call the
news media just copy and paste

614
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,160
whatever's coming over the wire.

615
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,310
And so but what's weird is uh,
you listen to the two sides like

616
00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:35,430
you listen to Rush Limbaugh his
interpretation of what's going

617
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:40,050
on and then you listen, listen
to Bill Maher is interpretation.

618
00:34:40,050 --> 00:34:43,230
So you have the street and you
have the right wing and the left

619
00:34:43,230 --> 00:34:46,410
wing both, you know, talking
about, you know, it's almost

620
00:34:46,410 --> 00:34:48,630
like the guys describing the
elephant you know, I mean, it's

621
00:34:48,630 --> 00:34:51,810
unbelievable. Everybody sees
things totally differently. And

622
00:34:51,810 --> 00:34:56,370
the fact is, though, I think
they're overdoing the bashing

623
00:34:56,370 --> 00:34:59,010
because it's unwarranted and
it's like actually making the

624
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:04,140
Democrats But looks like oh
dreamily mean spirited mean evil

625
00:35:04,140 --> 00:35:07,590
people and they don't seem to
get that and when they end when

626
00:35:07,590 --> 00:35:09,690
it's pointed out to him they say
well maybe that's the way it has

627
00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:11,910
to be we should be we should go
more on the offensive we should

628
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:15,030
be more like the report more
like the Karl Rove Ian's you

629
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:19,290
know and being, you know, be
attack dogs and go out and be

630
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,290
negative go negative go negative
and they're gonna do that I

631
00:35:22,290 --> 00:35:26,040
think just this campaign is
going to go extremely negative

632
00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:28,770
and it's going to be hilarious.
I think it's just going to be a

633
00:35:28,770 --> 00:35:30,810
laugh riot. It's going to be
fantastic.

634
00:35:30,990 --> 00:35:33,510
Well, it is the greatest show on
earth. And that's all that it

635
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:36,690
is. These people who are up for
election won't actually run

636
00:35:36,690 --> 00:35:39,990
anything that just actors. The
best one the best president we

637
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:44,670
had was an actor. And that's
what people miss. You know this.

638
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:48,960
It's all about the show. And
it's or it's orcas. It's no

639
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,400
different than managing Amy
Winehouse. It's like no, no

640
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,920
press. No, we have a press stop.
We're not gonna You can't talk

641
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,740
to Amy. And then you know, it's
like then we'll Okay, let's go

642
00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:01,620
on. Good Morning America,
Charles Gibson. He's in our

643
00:36:01,620 --> 00:36:04,470
pocket. We got him. And he'll
ask really easy questions and

644
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:09,450
we'll ask the tough questions in
a rehearsed way. It's a show

645
00:36:09,450 --> 00:36:13,560
business. I keep saying it's
show business. Politics is show

646
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,770
business for Ugly people. In
this case, you know they're even

647
00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:19,050
learning that because Sarah
Palin is not ugly.

648
00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:23,550
No, she's she's I think she's
fine looking. My wife doesn't

649
00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:28,710
think much of her. Anyway, so So
the Sarah Palin thing is

650
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:31,680
continuing. So all we have to do
somebody wrote in and said and

651
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,900
by the way I wanted somebody
mentioned to me that we should

652
00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:37,020
mentioned that lipstick on the
pig thing which everybody which

653
00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:40,470
is another phoney baloney deal
going on where, you know, Obama

654
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:43,740
said it's like lipstick on a pig
which is which to most of the

655
00:36:43,740 --> 00:36:46,560
Republicans was a call back to
the convention because Sarah

656
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,940
Palin had this joke that
lipstick. Meanwhile, oh, it's

657
00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:53,100
just an accent. People say
lipstick on a pig all the time.

658
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:55,410
And John McCain said it five
years ago and here's that you

659
00:36:55,410 --> 00:36:56,730
know, blah, blah, blah. It was

660
00:36:56,730 --> 00:36:59,430
really clear. It was very clear
what what Obama

661
00:36:59,820 --> 00:37:02,700
made clear that nobody talks
about this is why I thought it

662
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:05,460
was totally clear. He goes from
the lipstick on the pig

663
00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:10,110
reference, which was just an
insult to talking about fish.

664
00:37:10,380 --> 00:37:14,160
And how fish stinks. You put to
fish just like says like stinky

665
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,570
fish. Female reference that's
used by the lower classes are

666
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:23,370
commonly vagina. It's extremely
insulting, and nobody pay and it

667
00:37:23,370 --> 00:37:26,760
was the follow up to lipstick on
a pig. No doubt in my mind.

668
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,220
Rails was intended to indicate

669
00:37:29,340 --> 00:37:31,680
Well, when I heard lipstick on a
pig, I was shocked. I was

670
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,170
literally shocked because I knew
immediately because I had seen

671
00:37:34,170 --> 00:37:36,360
that bit where Sarah Palin says,
you know, the only difference

672
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:42,420
between what you say pit boy and
a hockey mom is lipstick. So it

673
00:37:42,420 --> 00:37:45,750
was really clear. And I was just
like, Wow, man, you calling a

674
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:48,840
woman a pig. That's it. That's a
big deal. And then I thought

675
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,910
back to our conversation from
last week where you said the

676
00:37:50,910 --> 00:37:54,540
Democratic Party in general is
ageist and sexist. And like,

677
00:37:54,570 --> 00:37:57,690
there it is. Fucking ages and
sexist.

678
00:37:58,530 --> 00:38:01,080
Yeah, totally ages and sexes.
But anyway, the follow up stuff

679
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,320
about the fish, all the fish
references to me was even more

680
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,280
insulting. But nobody wanted to
touch that one. Because for one

681
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,560
thing, it became obvious. And
the second thing was it was

682
00:38:10,590 --> 00:38:14,010
extremely insulting to even
bring it up in the conversation.

683
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,490
But I thought the whole thing
was very referential and

684
00:38:18,510 --> 00:38:19,800
referential. Do you have the
exact

685
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,560
quote that he used? Was it Obama
who said that?

686
00:38:23,010 --> 00:38:26,160
Yeah, Obama, he goes, he goes on
and on about lipstick on a pig.

687
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,160
And then he goes on and on about
it's like, it's like having dead

688
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:34,110
fish, stinky dead fish. And in a
newspaper, it just stinks. And

689
00:38:34,110 --> 00:38:37,470
he went on and on and on about
the fish. And it was right after

690
00:38:37,470 --> 00:38:40,140
I saw the whole thing. He was in
a library someplace to

691
00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:44,910
discussing this. And, you know,
it was all rehearsed. And I got

692
00:38:44,940 --> 00:38:48,300
huge laughs from this audience.
And I mean, she was he said,

693
00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:50,190
lipstick on a pig. They're all
you know, they're all

694
00:38:50,190 --> 00:38:55,950
snorkelling funny, and they had
all these kinds of nerdy little

695
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,060
dweebs and so it was obvious
what was going on and then now

696
00:39:00,090 --> 00:39:03,450
then I went into the denial
thing by the way, which I always

697
00:39:03,450 --> 00:39:07,230
get a kick out of this it's
reminds me of what used to be a

698
00:39:07,230 --> 00:39:11,070
professional wrestling where
somebody would come out they

699
00:39:11,070 --> 00:39:13,470
don't do this anymore. I'm
normally shocked by this but you

700
00:39:13,470 --> 00:39:16,380
know, the rest of you would go
beat the crap out of some guy

701
00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:19,110
and then he somehow turn around
and the guy beg him he'd beg No,

702
00:39:19,110 --> 00:39:21,810
no no no don't hurt me I'm I'm
don't hurt me to be on his knees

703
00:39:21,810 --> 00:39:24,120
begging and then as the guy so
okay, I won't hurt you the boom

704
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,020
he gives them one. You know
that? They don't do that

705
00:39:28,020 --> 00:39:30,690
anymore. There's none of the
begging there's no more begging

706
00:39:30,690 --> 00:39:33,420
but anyway, Obama goes into
this. Oh, no, it was just a

707
00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:36,420
mystery. Oh, you're kidding. Oh,
I didn't mean that you you're

708
00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:39,360
you're you're you're the one
who's got the dirty mind. Which

709
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,530
is another trick that comedians
use, which is you'd make a lewd

710
00:39:43,530 --> 00:39:47,460
reference and then you act so
shocked. Notices exactly

711
00:39:47,490 --> 00:39:50,790
it let's see, maybe this is
maybe this is the one I just

712
00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:54,960
want to see if I could find that
actually. That that quote. Let's

713
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,530
see what they

714
00:39:56,250 --> 00:39:59,640
say a few words about the latest
made up controversy

715
00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:03,450
on So that's not it. No, this is
his reaction to Yeah, no, you

716
00:40:03,450 --> 00:40:05,370
have to get the original. That's
what I'm looking at which is

717
00:40:05,370 --> 00:40:09,510
predates that. By the way, when
he goes into the made up

718
00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:13,740
controversy, but I'm getting
tired of this guy's cadence.

719
00:40:14,220 --> 00:40:15,660
Yeah. I mean, he was on

720
00:40:16,170 --> 00:40:19,800
Letterman. I saw clips from a
Letterman. Yeah. How was he? Was

721
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,340
he funny?

722
00:40:20,370 --> 00:40:24,420
Yeah. Yeah, he was outstanding.
He's a really smooth guy and I

723
00:40:24,540 --> 00:40:27,690
but he's still got that cadence.
When he's giving his speeches.

724
00:40:27,690 --> 00:40:30,690
He's actually more he's a he's
kind of, he's got a good

725
00:40:30,690 --> 00:40:34,620
personality. He's funny. He's
not he's not a joke maker. But

726
00:40:34,620 --> 00:40:38,670
he's got to seems to have a
sense of humour. And but the

727
00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:41,790
cadence this this hottie
cadence, which is actually

728
00:40:41,790 --> 00:40:46,290
sounds a lot like John Kerry, I
think is gonna wear it thin. You

729
00:40:46,290 --> 00:40:49,800
know, the more they put him on
the air because he just talks

730
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,520
like a guy who's you know,
talking down to you anyway,

731
00:40:53,550 --> 00:40:56,580
well, let's just list this for a
second. John McCain says he's

732
00:40:56,580 --> 00:41:02,070
about change to extra and so I
guess his whole angle is watch

733
00:41:02,070 --> 00:41:05,610
out George Bush, except for
economic policy, health care

734
00:41:05,610 --> 00:41:12,720
policy, tax policy, education
policy, foreign policy, and

735
00:41:12,750 --> 00:41:17,100
carros style politics. We're
really gonna shake things up in

736
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:24,510
Washington that's not change
that's that's just calling some

737
00:41:24,540 --> 00:41:29,490
the same thing. Something
different but you know, you can

738
00:41:30,090 --> 00:41:36,480
you can put lipstick on a pig a
pig

739
00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:42,210
bash it the fish thing is not
here. Now look forward later.

740
00:41:42,629 --> 00:41:45,659
Yeah, like follows up with the
fish. Yeah, sure. Which day

741
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,749
everybody cut that out. But did
that's what to me was declared.

742
00:41:48,749 --> 00:41:50,669
I mean, that was the
confirmation

743
00:41:51,450 --> 00:41:53,400
that also in Alaska reference, I
guess.

744
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:58,020
What the fish yeah. I don't
know. Now the fish is a

745
00:41:58,020 --> 00:42:03,210
reference to I mean, it's a
gives us a reference to vaginal

746
00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:07,500
secretions to be honest about
it. Yeah, exactly. And it's a

747
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,170
and it's something that you
wouldn't I mean, it does it

748
00:42:10,170 --> 00:42:14,550
first it gets too big for we got
too big a laugh with with the

749
00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:18,270
lipstick on a pig comment in
such a way that was obviously a

750
00:42:18,270 --> 00:42:22,770
callback to Sarah Palin. Right.
And her mentioned of lipstick,

751
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,680
and then when he started
pounding the fish stuff, and I'm

752
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,580
thinking this is ridiculous.
This is gonna get slaughtered

753
00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:32,730
for this and indeed the next
day, you know, are you dig

754
00:42:32,730 --> 00:42:35,910
actually that day? There was a
right wing guys are all over it.

755
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:39,720
And the left wingers are all
snickering they don't know No,

756
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:44,340
do you guys are just sick to
think that but the nobody again

757
00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:48,810
on either side brought up to all
this fish malarkey was fine. No,

758
00:42:48,810 --> 00:42:52,320
I think they're, these guys are
going in the wrong direction. In

759
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,650
fact, it's already been
discussed that, you know, the

760
00:42:55,650 --> 00:42:59,700
youth is would be the group that
puts these guys over, you know,

761
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:02,550
the young voters who never vote
because they think everything's

762
00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:08,220
a crock of crap for obvious
reasons. And and Obama came out

763
00:43:08,220 --> 00:43:12,600
as the you know, the non
politician politician, and so he

764
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,460
was going to be you know, above
it all. And he was going to do

765
00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:17,400
this above it all. And
meanwhile, this mean, spirited

766
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,330
Democratic base, you know, that
shows up on the Bill Maher show

767
00:43:21,330 --> 00:43:24,450
last night. He had Janine
garofolo on and she's about as

768
00:43:24,450 --> 00:43:24,990
crazy.

769
00:43:25,290 --> 00:43:27,600
She's a massive truther

770
00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:31,560
Oh, she had massive truth. Oh,
yeah. Big time. Yeah, big time.

771
00:43:31,590 --> 00:43:35,580
That never came out. But anyway,
she just hates the Republicans

772
00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:38,490
to an extreme, she said they
should all be arrested. I mean,

773
00:43:38,490 --> 00:43:41,430
even though she's supposedly
Just kidding. But anyway, so

774
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:45,810
they these guys are like so mean
spirited, that they're like

775
00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:48,630
making Obama do stuff that's
compleanno going in this

776
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:52,410
direction of being snide, and,
and, you know, not being above

777
00:43:52,410 --> 00:43:55,530
the fray, but being just part of
it. And it's gonna turn off the

778
00:43:55,530 --> 00:43:58,140
youth voters who are going to
say, you know, yeah, he can be I

779
00:43:58,140 --> 00:44:01,260
hope he wins, but I got other
things to do, I'm not gonna

780
00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:04,110
vote, and they're gonna lose the
election because of this kind of

781
00:44:04,110 --> 00:44:06,900
thing. If they don't get back on
their original track, which was

782
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:10,350
winning, they were winning big
with the original track. You

783
00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:13,140
know, just because they take a
few some people take a few shots

784
00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:16,260
at him like Giuliani at the
convention. He had some great

785
00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:18,900
leave the guy was doing a stand
up routine. It was the funniest

786
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,110
thing I've ever seen it guy was
great. He could have could have

787
00:44:22,110 --> 00:44:23,040
been a politician.

788
00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:26,910
You know where it is, John, what
what happened is it's it's the

789
00:44:26,910 --> 00:44:31,080
whole celebrity thing. You know,
Obama was built up. And it just

790
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,710
like, the good example was Amy
Winehouse. You know, you see

791
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:37,980
this great, great persona, you
hear this great voice, you know,

792
00:44:37,980 --> 00:44:39,900
the song everything's fit
together because it's an

793
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:42,690
illusion, right? You don't
actually know this, that she's

794
00:44:42,690 --> 00:44:46,920
human. And you never when you
when you this is the old school

795
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,300
Hollywood system, you know, you
you protect your stars, and you

796
00:44:51,330 --> 00:44:56,430
micromanage everything, and you
never ever let the human side

797
00:44:56,430 --> 00:44:59,970
come out unless it's completely
orchestrated. So this is not a

798
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,810
Mama's personal, his personal
opinion, it's not his words. I

799
00:45:03,810 --> 00:45:06,210
mean, all this shit is is
written for him and made up for

800
00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:09,810
him. But that's not how you
can't do that in the celebrity

801
00:45:09,810 --> 00:45:12,540
culture that we live in today
when you use that celebrity

802
00:45:12,540 --> 00:45:14,970
culture to actually build the
guy up, because that's what

803
00:45:14,970 --> 00:45:15,540
happened.

804
00:45:18,210 --> 00:45:21,480
Well, yeah, no, that is what
happened. I mean, he was built

805
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,670
up as a celebrity. And that's
one of the things that they

806
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:26,850
threw back in his face with
those early ads, which may or

807
00:45:26,850 --> 00:45:30,330
may not have been effective. I
think he did. Well, I don't know

808
00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:32,460
if they were effective or not,
but I know that they did have

809
00:45:32,490 --> 00:45:36,750
they, they were, they weren't
necessarily effective in terms

810
00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:39,960
of like, changing anybody's
mind. But I think they they

811
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:46,170
affected with an A, the, the
personal or the, the basic

812
00:45:46,170 --> 00:45:49,920
perceptions that the Democrats
had of themselves, they found

813
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,320
this very offensive, because
they were, you know, kind of

814
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,810
playing a celebrity game, and
then they were busted for it.

815
00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:57,030
And then the next thing, you
know, they're like, Well, you

816
00:45:57,030 --> 00:46:00,060
know, this is a cheap shot. And,
you know, and then they, you

817
00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:02,880
know, they, all of a sudden, the
Paris Hilton video comes out,

818
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,650
which was actually the best
thing that come out of it.

819
00:46:04,650 --> 00:46:07,800
Right. Yeah. And it did, the
whole thing is being twisted.

820
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,030
And I think it's like the
Republicans. The Republicans

821
00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:14,520
started out, there's no reason
the Republicans should win this

822
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,390
election. I mean, under any
circumstances, I mean, under any

823
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:21,360
normal circumstances, you have a
president that can't even show

824
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,480
up his own convention, a vice
president that doesn't even have

825
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,300
a videotape for their own
convention. I mean, he doesn't

826
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,170
he's not even be mentioned. He
was often. Yeah, you have an

827
00:46:31,170 --> 00:46:33,780
unpopular situation. But then
again, the problem that

828
00:46:33,780 --> 00:46:36,390
Democrats really have is that
they're they're crappy Congress

829
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:39,270
that was put in office, you
know, just two years ago was

830
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:42,270
promising all this stuff. They
didn't deliver it, absolutely

831
00:46:42,270 --> 00:46:46,050
nothing, which gave the
Republicans the possibility of

832
00:46:46,050 --> 00:46:49,470
getting in again, because the
Democrats are does do nothing as

833
00:46:49,470 --> 00:46:53,430
you can be. But meanwhile, they
create this kick this guy,

834
00:46:53,730 --> 00:46:57,870
Obama, from an earlier speech in
2004, when he gave that great

835
00:46:57,870 --> 00:47:02,610
speech, the speech and they
create this, you know, they and

836
00:47:02,610 --> 00:47:05,970
they get to think fine tuned and
find honed, and he's like, the

837
00:47:05,970 --> 00:47:09,720
guy can't lose, and everybody
just thinks he's a shoo in,

838
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,440
based on the earlier build up,
and then the Republicans just

839
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,590
take a poke a few, you know,
just take a needle a little bit

840
00:47:16,590 --> 00:47:18,210
and the whole thing falls apart.

841
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,250
Yep. They totally obliterated
the Sarah Palin pick. They just

842
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:29,400
obliterated Obama's huge
appearance is his concert.

843
00:47:30,690 --> 00:47:33,420
Yeah, no, they did a good job of
killing the concert with that.

844
00:47:33,630 --> 00:47:37,890
And then they, they also she
became the target for all this

845
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:45,120
out and out hatred of both women
and you know, her, and the fact

846
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,720
that she's only been a governor
for two years. And it's a small

847
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:49,470
state, you know,

848
00:47:50,459 --> 00:47:52,739
we're all pissed off because
they didn't get to vet her.

849
00:47:56,250 --> 00:47:58,590
Well, you have the press was
doing its job because I think it

850
00:47:58,590 --> 00:48:00,000
was either on this show or
another show. I'm gonna have

851
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,660
somebody find this reference. I
referenced her in May when they

852
00:48:03,660 --> 00:48:05,970
first when she first came up in
the conversation she was

853
00:48:05,970 --> 00:48:09,870
mentioned as one of the possible
choices. And they that's when

854
00:48:09,870 --> 00:48:12,540
the vetting began with the
Republican Party which was in

855
00:48:12,540 --> 00:48:15,570
May, which was a number of
months back but she was never

856
00:48:15,570 --> 00:48:19,200
put on any of the on any of the
lists at the press came out with

857
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,850
even though these weren't
official this by the

858
00:48:20,850 --> 00:48:23,070
Republicans, they were just
making it up as they go along.

859
00:48:23,070 --> 00:48:25,470
And then they got worked by the
fact that the whole thing came

860
00:48:25,470 --> 00:48:28,770
out apparently, to them came out
of left field when it actually

861
00:48:28,770 --> 00:48:29,700
didn't, I just

862
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:33,690
got to write this down September
13. John suggest the press might

863
00:48:33,690 --> 00:48:38,280
not have been doing their job.
Interesting. Interesting little,

864
00:48:38,550 --> 00:48:42,300
little note there. Hey, let's
let's riff on McCain for a

865
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:47,250
second because that video that
came out, blew me away with the

866
00:48:47,250 --> 00:48:50,010
Well, the one that everyone's
been talking about the one of

867
00:48:50,010 --> 00:48:52,290
him being released? Oh, yeah,
the

868
00:48:52,290 --> 00:48:55,440
Swedish video, we have it on the
blog. divorce.org/blog Have a

869
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,400
drink. Right.

870
00:48:56,910 --> 00:49:03,030
So here's McCain. And, you know,
only when I saw your blog post

871
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:05,520
that I realised that you know,
the story had been that he came

872
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,090
out on crutches and this was him
actually leaving not entering

873
00:49:09,090 --> 00:49:15,270
the states but leaving Vietnam,
right, but the thing that I saw

874
00:49:15,330 --> 00:49:19,290
that that took me immediately
was He saluted the guy with a

875
00:49:19,290 --> 00:49:23,640
high salute. And these days he
can't pull his arm up above his

876
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,420
shoulder level.

877
00:49:25,020 --> 00:49:28,230
He can't put it put his arm over
he can still salute though

878
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:32,010
because if you look where the
elbow is positioned, you don't

879
00:49:32,010 --> 00:49:34,980
necessarily have to have it
straight up to get us to make a

880
00:49:34,980 --> 00:49:35,790
salute work.

881
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,720
Anyway interesting videos just
in general man about his back

882
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:43,020
like not you mentioned that he
they I remember hearing a couple

883
00:49:43,020 --> 00:49:47,520
of comments. I mean, you don't
need to raise your arm up into

884
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,040
the air to salute you can salute
with your actually you could do

885
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,280
with a tuck. If you you know
wanted to look like Benny Hill.

886
00:49:53,340 --> 00:49:57,420
It looks high enough for me to
actually go compare anyhow, he's

887
00:49:57,420 --> 00:50:00,000
been He's much older now
obviously, and it's not really

888
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,540
that important because the guy
was really in a in a in a prison

889
00:50:03,540 --> 00:50:04,470
camp, you know, it's like,

890
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:06,990
right well, he's obviously when
you when you see him today he

891
00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:10,920
you can see that he can't his
arms have limited mobility and I

892
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,650
don't think he's faking that it
could have been a progressive

893
00:50:13,650 --> 00:50:16,290
thing that just deteriorated
over time. Because you know,

894
00:50:16,290 --> 00:50:20,010
there's so much ligament damage
or who knows what. But yeah, he

895
00:50:20,010 --> 00:50:23,490
did have a salute. He was
limping severely so I can see

896
00:50:23,490 --> 00:50:26,400
the crutches thing actually
happening. But the thing that

897
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,060
keeps coming up, because I know
you don't need to lift your own

898
00:50:30,060 --> 00:50:32,070
weapon you already make a
salute, you just need to be able

899
00:50:32,070 --> 00:50:35,850
to bend your elbow. And but they
keep referencing to the fact

900
00:50:35,850 --> 00:50:38,940
that poor John McCain can't
salute the flag. And I'm not

901
00:50:38,940 --> 00:50:39,960
sure that's true.

902
00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:44,700
No, no, no, I'm trying to right
now obviously, you can salute

903
00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:47,310
you can sell it without bringing
your arm all I know if it's an

904
00:50:47,310 --> 00:50:49,170
official salute. Well, you

905
00:50:49,170 --> 00:50:52,530
could do about Yeah, but the
other pieces of history and that

906
00:50:52,530 --> 00:50:55,530
obviously a perfect marine
salute with the 90 degrees and

907
00:50:55,530 --> 00:50:56,070
all the rest of

908
00:50:57,780 --> 00:51:00,960
the, what was interesting to me
is other information that I

909
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,280
didn't know about John McCain.
So for instance, his wife, when

910
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,200
he came back, he was already
married, I guess when he went

911
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,560
off to Vietnam, and he came back
and, and his wife had been in a

912
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,010
really horrible car accident she
had had like 13 or 14

913
00:51:14,010 --> 00:51:18,750
operations, and that it really
messed with her and well he left

914
00:51:18,750 --> 00:51:27,450
her and he left her for Cindy,
who subsequently was on all

915
00:51:27,450 --> 00:51:32,670
kinds of drugs, like was invited
in Percocet, Percocet, whatever,

916
00:51:32,670 --> 00:51:36,330
for three years. And she was
completely completely drugged.

917
00:51:36,330 --> 00:51:41,070
She was actually she had a she
had a bit of a foundation that

918
00:51:41,070 --> 00:51:44,010
would bring drugs to poor
nations, and she was actually

919
00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:45,930
getting the drugs from her own
foundation.

920
00:51:46,650 --> 00:51:49,830
Oh, that's interesting. I mean,
I you know, she looks, she has a

921
00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:53,370
certain look of like an exit. I
hate to say this, because I

922
00:51:53,370 --> 00:51:56,040
don't think she's totally an
unattractive woman by any means.

923
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,260
And she's standard. She looks
rich, and she has a lot of

924
00:51:58,260 --> 00:52:01,170
style. And she's very involved
in these foundations. But she

925
00:52:01,170 --> 00:52:04,440
has to kind of have a look of a
of a woman that may have gone

926
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,280
through something like that.

927
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:08,970
Yeah, apparently it has left
some permanent damage,

928
00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:12,540
particularly memory damage. So
she she can't remember things

929
00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:15,150
for like two weeks ago, short
term memory is difficult. And

930
00:52:15,150 --> 00:52:20,310
he's by her own admission. So
while they're digging up all

931
00:52:20,310 --> 00:52:24,150
this shit on Sarah Palin, now,
there's a lot more shit. There's

932
00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:26,430
plenty for the Obama camp to do,
that's for sure.

933
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,830
Yeah, well, I'm sure they're
gonna go after. But they have

934
00:52:28,830 --> 00:52:31,440
to, you know, they have to have
meetings because stuff like that

935
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,020
is pretty hypersensitive.
Especially it's like, can we go

936
00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:37,470
after, here's a, you know, you
got to the guy's got us, he's

937
00:52:37,470 --> 00:52:41,520
immediately got protection, or
insurance based on this being

938
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,480
five years in a prisoner of war
camp. And then, you know, you go

939
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,720
after some woman who had had a
drug problem, even though she's,

940
00:52:49,230 --> 00:52:52,230
if you looked at her bio that
they ran at that convention,

941
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:55,380
it's like, Oh, my God, this
woman had any time. She, you

942
00:52:55,380 --> 00:52:58,830
know, she made her Palin look
like she was a lazy fat. So

943
00:52:58,830 --> 00:53:01,470
sitting around eating bonbons,
in terms of the amount of stuff

944
00:53:01,470 --> 00:53:03,960
that she had going on. I mean,
she was just like, she's got

945
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,520
this going on. And, you know, to
have 20 kids, and they adopted

946
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,480
a, you know, African child and
went, I mean, just the whole

947
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,990
family is enormous. So he has a
football team when he brought

948
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:19,800
them out. And so what are you
going to do? Um, and how do you

949
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,840
attack that without looking like
an idiot?

950
00:53:22,110 --> 00:53:25,920
Because the nutty thing is, John
is hope our listeners realise

951
00:53:25,950 --> 00:53:29,130
how much of a Banana Republic
The United States is when just

952
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,940
just this is the actual
conversation. This is what it's

953
00:53:32,940 --> 00:53:36,570
about, you know, while you know
about stinky fish and lipstick

954
00:53:36,570 --> 00:53:41,490
on pigs, and lack of experience
and all this stuff. Well, you

955
00:53:41,490 --> 00:53:44,820
know, we're basically about, you
know, we're in a Cold War with

956
00:53:44,820 --> 00:53:48,630
Russia. And we've gotten
stagflation and on the brink of

957
00:53:48,930 --> 00:53:52,500
disaster financially, and this
is the shit, we're even we're

958
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:54,240
talking about it. What's wrong
with us?

959
00:53:54,750 --> 00:53:58,350
Well, you know, what is wrong
with us? We shouldn't be talking

960
00:53:58,350 --> 00:54:00,480
about Lehman Brothers. So

961
00:54:00,810 --> 00:54:02,850
I can talk about Lehman
Brothers, I can tell you about

962
00:54:02,850 --> 00:54:06,570
we walked you know, Ron and I,
we are first company think new

963
00:54:06,570 --> 00:54:10,650
ideas. So we were we were we had
an option to take that public.

964
00:54:10,890 --> 00:54:15,870
And Lehman Brothers courted us
for man months, I think was four

965
00:54:15,870 --> 00:54:18,840
or five months. And yeah, that's
a really difficult process. And

966
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,560
it really drains on any company
to just to get that going. And

967
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,500
it was just it just, you know,
went around in circles. And then

968
00:54:25,710 --> 00:54:27,690
I can just remember the meeting.
We said, hey, you know what,

969
00:54:27,690 --> 00:54:29,940
screw you guys. We're not we're
we're leaving. And we've

970
00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:32,760
literally walked out. And they
came running down the street

971
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,590
after us. And we wound up going
with some like brown shoe firm.

972
00:54:38,430 --> 00:54:42,630
But a huge $12 million raise. It
was a little bit before the.com

973
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:48,750
Boom. But Lehman Brothers Yeah.
Hey, it's it's an interesting,

974
00:54:48,780 --> 00:54:51,960
interesting to work with a
company like that on something

975
00:54:52,170 --> 00:54:55,200
of that magnitude, even though
for them was really small,

976
00:54:55,230 --> 00:54:59,130
because it's essentially the
only thing they're doing from

977
00:54:59,130 --> 00:55:01,740
the minute you walk in the door.
or is there looking for reasons

978
00:55:01,740 --> 00:55:04,860
not to do it? Because it could,
you know, screw up their career.

979
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,010
There's no other they don't give
a shit about if you're going to

980
00:55:08,010 --> 00:55:10,560
be successful or not. They just
want to guide the IPO.

981
00:55:12,809 --> 00:55:14,279
Did you think they were
sleazeballs?

982
00:55:14,729 --> 00:55:18,449
No, no. And they were nice. You
know, they had every meeting,

983
00:55:18,449 --> 00:55:20,549
they had the bagels and the
fruit, you know, that was nice.

984
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:24,630
Well, they're toast now.

985
00:55:25,650 --> 00:55:28,800
They certainly are 150. This is
one of the big ones though. This

986
00:55:28,830 --> 00:55:31,500
these these are like one of the
these are serious players, these

987
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:31,950
guys.

988
00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:37,920
Yeah, yeah, it's a disaster. I
mean, the Bear Stearns thing was

989
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,620
like, you know, spit in the
bucket. I mean, they got out

990
00:55:40,620 --> 00:55:43,800
smelling like a rose somehow,
begin by doing it early, if

991
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,250
you're going to fail, fail
early, be first to fail. Because

992
00:55:47,250 --> 00:55:49,110
after a while, they start
saying, hey, wait a minute, this

993
00:55:49,110 --> 00:55:51,390
is we've seen too much of this,
you guys can just, you know,

994
00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:53,850
sink to the bottom for all we
care because people, you know,

995
00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:56,010
the government and everybody
else gets sick of it. And you

996
00:55:56,010 --> 00:55:59,250
know, you want to go out early,
not late well, and then come

997
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,250
come back to the last game in a
football season,

998
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,160
I come back to my original
statement, which is, you know,

999
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,830
knowing how Wall Street
operates, and many, many banks

1000
00:56:07,830 --> 00:56:11,460
for my clients and our previous
company. If there's a penny to

1001
00:56:11,460 --> 00:56:14,850
be made, if there's a there's a
basis point to be made, they'll

1002
00:56:14,850 --> 00:56:18,390
go after it, unless they don't
know that they can go after it.

1003
00:56:18,450 --> 00:56:21,150
And I think that's the problem
is because you know, what this,

1004
00:56:21,180 --> 00:56:25,020
you know, did you hear? Well,
this was also interesting that

1005
00:56:25,020 --> 00:56:28,440
because Fannie Mae and Freddie
Mac have gone into

1006
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,820
conservatorship, that actually,
according to the contracts, and

1007
00:56:32,820 --> 00:56:35,250
I'm talking about trillions of
dollars in derivatives

1008
00:56:35,250 --> 00:56:39,180
contracts, is a credit event and
all of those deals have to be

1009
00:56:39,180 --> 00:56:42,660
unwound. And Lehman Brothers is
an essential part of that, you

1010
00:56:42,660 --> 00:56:47,010
know, credit default swaps are a
derivative. So I think that it's

1011
00:56:47,010 --> 00:56:51,060
so big that no one understands
how to unwind all of these deals

1012
00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:52,950
that are poorly documented,

1013
00:56:52,980 --> 00:56:56,040
right? Now, these derivatives of
you know, there's derivatives

1014
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,890
that go both ways. And all these
years as Lehman Brothers fails,

1015
00:56:58,890 --> 00:57:01,770
there's other things making, you
know, going up in value. And

1016
00:57:01,770 --> 00:57:03,600
then there's insurance
derivatives,

1017
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,260
that are these companies. And if
you Sorry, go ahead.

1018
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,870
There was like some they had
this on the other day, there's

1019
00:57:09,870 --> 00:57:12,870
some guy who has made millions
and millions off of these

1020
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,420
company have had the Bear
Stearns failure because he had a

1021
00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:18,300
derivative of an insurance, I
was covering this that if this

1022
00:57:18,300 --> 00:57:20,430
happened, then you know, it
would go up. And if you had

1023
00:57:20,550 --> 00:57:22,830
shorted it, it would go out.
It's unbelievable. I'm thinking.

1024
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,810
I was gonna say that that's been
fixed now because everyone's on

1025
00:57:27,810 --> 00:57:33,450
to that and with Lehman
Brothers, when it was with

1026
00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:36,900
Lehman Brothers, right now it
costs to insure $10 million.

1027
00:57:37,710 --> 00:57:41,400
It's like 786 basis points. So
it's almost a million dollars

1028
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,210
now to insure $10 million. If
it's through Lehman, where's it

1029
00:57:45,210 --> 00:57:50,070
was like, 70,000 or some, like,
some fraction of what it was a

1030
00:57:50,070 --> 00:57:52,860
couple weeks ago? Yeah. went up
a little bit.

1031
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,610
Hello, yeah, sorry. Your your
disconnection this week is not

1032
00:58:02,610 --> 00:58:05,340
very good. I think your
daughter's downloading. So no,

1033
00:58:05,340 --> 00:58:08,280
no, she's not here. I saw um,
Bemer. I'm just me and my gold.

1034
00:58:09,540 --> 00:58:13,890
Someone posted something
interesting on on my drop. If

1035
00:58:13,890 --> 00:58:18,600
you go to Google Maps, I'll
sedia has been wiped off. No

1036
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,360
longer is that no, seriously, no
longer is the like the border

1037
00:58:21,390 --> 00:58:25,440
showing what part of Georgia is
of Cydia or sexual really, he

1038
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,000
has been taken off of Google
Maps.

1039
00:58:28,290 --> 00:58:31,140
Is it been made part of Georgia
or Russia, that part of Georgia?

1040
00:58:32,790 --> 00:58:36,210
As little politics going on
there? Oh, yeah. I think that's

1041
00:58:36,210 --> 00:58:39,090
the whole Russian thing is the
one it is the story that we're I

1042
00:58:39,090 --> 00:58:41,460
mean, I even if we tried to
piece it together, what's really

1043
00:58:41,460 --> 00:58:44,850
going on, I think is going to,
you know, some, the whole thing

1044
00:58:44,850 --> 00:58:45,660
is flaky.

1045
00:58:46,260 --> 00:58:49,710
Well, something's gotta give
somewhere, John. I mean, it's,

1046
00:58:50,010 --> 00:58:54,120
like, billions, 10s of billions
of dollars has flowed out from

1047
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,200
the, from the from Russia and
from the stock market. And now a

1048
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,200
lot of these oil companies and
gas companies are in trouble.

1049
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,410
Because they can't access
capital, either. There's just a

1050
00:59:04,410 --> 00:59:07,260
shortage of actual money, and
the only solution is to print

1051
00:59:07,260 --> 00:59:10,620
it. And which no one wants to

1052
00:59:10,620 --> 00:59:13,050
do that? Well, I don't know.
Maybe they're trying to for

1053
00:59:13,050 --> 00:59:15,780
here's another theory, if you're
gonna go, the whole thing is set

1054
00:59:15,780 --> 00:59:18,600
up by the international banking
community or whoever, which it

1055
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,380
is. Well, I'm not a complete
subscriber to that. But let's

1056
00:59:22,380 --> 00:59:25,380
just say that they're trying to
fix the problem that we have in

1057
00:59:25,380 --> 00:59:28,860
the United States, which is
unbelievable, you know, debt

1058
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:32,010
that we're suffering under, if
you look at the most, you know,

1059
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:35,220
countries in the world, there's
a CIA document on this showing

1060
00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:39,330
all the levels of debt that
various countries have were at,

1061
00:59:39,330 --> 00:59:43,230
and we're, we're not even
nobody's even close to our

1062
00:59:43,230 --> 00:59:47,850
number one with a bullet baby.
So we're like way out in front,

1063
00:59:47,850 --> 00:59:50,850
but the way you pay off debts,
of course, is with cheap money.

1064
00:59:50,850 --> 00:59:55,140
And so you want to go into a
hyperinflation economy and then

1065
00:59:55,140 --> 00:59:57,840
you can you can basically pay
off all your debts really cheap

1066
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,880
because you know, in
hyperinflation, everything all

1067
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,960
over sudden starts going up in
value, and, and which includes

1068
01:00:04,020 --> 01:00:08,580
your pay, and everything else.
And then so now we say you're,

1069
01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:12,150
you're working on the basis of
making $50,000 a year and you

1070
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:16,440
had a $50,000 debt, the debt
stays at $50,000. But now

1071
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,100
because of hyperinflation,
you're making $500,000 a year.

1072
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,310
Yeah. Right. So you can pay that
$50,000 debt off. Like there's

1073
01:00:23,310 --> 01:00:26,520
nothing, just one 10% of your
salary when it was once 100% of

1074
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,890
your salary. And you know, then,
of course, the next year is

1075
01:00:28,890 --> 01:00:30,570
you're making a million a year.
And that to me, I mean, this

1076
01:00:30,570 --> 01:00:34,410
happened in Brazil, I have some
of the Brazilian notes that I

1077
01:00:34,410 --> 01:00:38,910
have a 500,000 cruzeiro note,
which was worth like, would have

1078
01:00:38,910 --> 01:00:43,260
been worth like, the equivalent
of $500,000 into when I got hold

1079
01:00:43,260 --> 01:00:45,060
of it, it was worth it like a
buck.

1080
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:49,050
Well, so hold on a second. So
I'm totally with you on this,

1081
01:00:49,050 --> 01:00:54,300
because that is fascinating. So
how do they control that? How do

1082
01:00:54,300 --> 01:00:59,130
they under the presumption that
it is the bankers? Who are the

1083
01:00:59,130 --> 01:01:03,660
true owners of the universe, and
not not Lehman Brothers? But

1084
01:01:03,690 --> 01:01:08,310
guys above that? How do they how
do they control that from

1085
01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:11,340
happening? Do they just go
threaten the unions and make

1086
01:01:11,340 --> 01:01:14,340
sure that wages stay low? I
mean, how do you counteract

1087
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,250
a hyperinflation trying to go
into an inflationary mode, you

1088
01:01:17,250 --> 01:01:21,060
have to raise interest rates,
right? And you can, but you can

1089
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:24,960
only raise them so much before
the economy essentially stops

1090
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,320
dead. It's almost like you know,
stalling a plane, right? Which,

1091
01:01:29,130 --> 01:01:31,800
at this point, you can't, you
can't raise it, because then no

1092
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,290
one will be, then the housing
market will never recover.

1093
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,640
Right? So you're between a rock
and a hard place. They set it up

1094
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:43,080
almost as though that you know,
once the hyperinflation thing

1095
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,720
takes off, it's like what
happened in Germany in the 30s.

1096
01:01:46,170 --> 01:01:49,560
Once the thing which could
happen in our country in the our

1097
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,130
next decade, which would be the
downturn decade. And based on my

1098
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,600
cyclical stuff. Once it gets
once the spigots open on

1099
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,450
hyperinflation, it was very
difficult to control it, it just

1100
01:02:00,450 --> 01:02:03,720
goes completely crazy. And I
mean, it take it might take

1101
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,010
3456 10 years before you can get
it under control. But meanwhile,

1102
01:02:08,010 --> 01:02:11,940
during that era, you can pay off
all these old debts. And in a

1103
01:02:11,940 --> 01:02:15,990
hyperinflation environment, what
you want to be invested in is

1104
01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:20,250
real property. Because if you
have like a house, it's not

1105
01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:23,340
going to go down in value in a
hyperinflation environment, it's

1106
01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:25,440
going to go up, and it's going
to skyrocket as a matter of

1107
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,260
fact, so your, you know, half a
million dollar home was going to

1108
01:02:28,260 --> 01:02:31,170
be worth baby 50 million for
all, you know, then they have

1109
01:02:31,170 --> 01:02:36,330
to, you know, but essentially,
that would fix the problem. But

1110
01:02:36,330 --> 01:02:38,880
it would cause an interesting,
nobody knows exactly what the

1111
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,490
end result would be. I mean,
because Germany went through it,

1112
01:02:41,490 --> 01:02:45,660
and they don't have any, you
know, long term problems that I

1113
01:02:45,660 --> 01:02:48,990
can see in their economy.
Brazil's gone through it, I

1114
01:02:48,990 --> 01:02:53,700
think. Argentina went through
it, it's been done.

1115
01:02:54,090 --> 01:02:58,350
I think that I think the main
difference in in this cycle of

1116
01:02:59,070 --> 01:03:02,940
expansion contraction, which of
course is how these true owners

1117
01:03:02,940 --> 01:03:05,730
of the earth actually make their
money by taking our real

1118
01:03:05,730 --> 01:03:09,630
possessions when when they
contract everything is that now

1119
01:03:09,630 --> 01:03:12,510
that you know, there is nothing
left? No one has any savings.

1120
01:03:12,510 --> 01:03:16,140
There's no 401 K, there's no
home, we don't own our cars.

1121
01:03:16,260 --> 01:03:19,500
There's nothing left. There's
nothing left to create the next

1122
01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:22,620
bubble with? You know, they do.
That's the way I see it is that

1123
01:03:22,620 --> 01:03:25,080
you got bubble following on
bubble and it's a 10 year, you

1124
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,660
know, whatever that cycle is,
and this was the part of the

1125
01:03:27,660 --> 01:03:29,910
housing bubble, and then we got
the financial bubble, and now

1126
01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:35,580
it's over. There's nothing left
to take. No savings, no money,

1127
01:03:35,580 --> 01:03:36,420
there's just nothing.

1128
01:03:37,470 --> 01:03:42,060
There's there's actually, I'm
not convinced that your view of

1129
01:03:42,060 --> 01:03:45,030
the scorched earth is actually
accurate. I mean, I have

1130
01:03:45,330 --> 01:03:47,190
properties. And

1131
01:03:48,030 --> 01:03:52,020
John, John, you and I are in the
top one percentile of animals

1132
01:03:52,020 --> 01:03:54,930
going around my neighbourhood.
There's houses everywhere.

1133
01:03:54,959 --> 01:03:57,689
I mean, you live in an affluent
neighbourhood. What are you

1134
01:03:57,689 --> 01:03:59,369
talking about? Middle class,

1135
01:03:59,370 --> 01:04:01,710
the area of the Northern
California has nothing

1136
01:04:01,740 --> 01:04:03,300
particularly ritzy about it.

1137
01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:06,870
You know what I'm saying? No, I

1138
01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:09,270
know, I think you're wrong. I
think they're more the

1139
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:14,310
homeownership is extremely high
in this country. And yeah,

1140
01:04:14,310 --> 01:04:16,230
there's a lot of people that
were shaken out of their home

1141
01:04:16,230 --> 01:04:19,770
ownerships. And you think, if
you look at it, not that many

1142
01:04:19,770 --> 01:04:21,780
compared to how many people
actually own homes and these

1143
01:04:21,780 --> 01:04:24,810
homes will be extremely valuable
in a hyperinflation environment.

1144
01:04:24,930 --> 01:04:27,510
Yes, sure. They will be but the
people will never get to it and

1145
01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:29,580
they're walking away from it.
They've been paying off their

1146
01:04:29,580 --> 01:04:34,560
mortgage or their credit cards.
This it was unaffordable. It was

1147
01:04:34,590 --> 01:04:35,850
it was a gravy train.

1148
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,420
All number of people, dude,

1149
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,950
I so disagree. Every everyone
was on the property ladder. Hey,

1150
01:04:43,950 --> 01:04:48,060
yeah, and I just refinance. refi
refi. I mean, look, turn on the

1151
01:04:48,060 --> 01:04:50,370
television. They're still trying
to

1152
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,800
go no everybody reified, but
they didn't necessarily put

1153
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,010
themselves into the tool hold
doing it. Yes. A lot of people

1154
01:04:56,010 --> 01:04:59,220
did who just weren't a lot of
people is not a it's not the

1155
01:04:59,220 --> 01:05:01,530
majority of homeowners, that's
for sure.

1156
01:05:01,590 --> 01:05:02,580
How do you know?

1157
01:05:03,330 --> 01:05:08,010
I did numbers that don't make
any sense 30% of the total

1158
01:05:08,010 --> 01:05:10,530
holdup, we can do some research.
And in fact, I'll bet you

1159
01:05:10,530 --> 01:05:13,080
there's somebody out there that
has the exact numbers. If it was

1160
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,230
10% of the total total
homeowners, I'd be surprised it

1161
01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:19,500
was the number was that big?
It's just be exaggerated.

1162
01:05:21,210 --> 01:05:25,470
Well, then the financial
meltdown has very little to do

1163
01:05:25,470 --> 01:05:26,670
with the housing bubble, then.

1164
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,060
No, I think it has. I think it's
connected. But I think there's

1165
01:05:30,060 --> 01:05:32,700
other things wrong with the
financials. I mean, these guys

1166
01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:36,360
were they're doing crazy deals
every which way. I mean, they

1167
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,630
were speculating on the oil. I
mean, it was it Lehman Brothers,

1168
01:05:39,630 --> 01:05:43,710
or Morgan Stanley, one of the
two that has the biggest they're

1169
01:05:43,710 --> 01:05:47,070
set in heating oil. I think for
this winter, they they're the

1170
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:51,180
biggest holders of the, of all
the contracts at the dairy and

1171
01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:53,070
everything. These guys are gone
crazy.

1172
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,160
Okay, well, one thing's for
sure. It's overpriced. But

1173
01:06:00,420 --> 01:06:03,420
interesting to see if you also
knew instead of making 50 grand,

1174
01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:06,420
you're making half a million and
that you can pay off and that I

1175
01:06:06,420 --> 01:06:09,840
guess that only hurt the
financial institutions. To

1176
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,880
banks. Yeah. Unless they have
some small, small fine print.

1177
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:18,300
They can be they can also the
banks can be the banks aren't

1178
01:06:18,300 --> 01:06:19,470
going to be here, because
they're going to all be out of

1179
01:06:19,470 --> 01:06:24,180
business. The the banks can deal
with this, because if you really

1180
01:06:24,180 --> 01:06:27,690
think who's gonna get hurt, it's
not going to be our banks. It's

1181
01:06:27,690 --> 01:06:31,140
going to be China. China is the
one who holds most of the debt

1182
01:06:31,140 --> 01:06:33,630
hold all the debt. Yeah. You
know, they won't do anything

1183
01:06:33,630 --> 01:06:35,790
about changing the value of
their money, they won't do this,

1184
01:06:35,790 --> 01:06:37,830
they won't do that. They own all
the debt, they threatened us

1185
01:06:37,830 --> 01:06:39,810
every once in a while they've
done this a couple of times all

1186
01:06:39,810 --> 01:06:42,750
you know, we can start dumping
your, your, you know, your debt

1187
01:06:42,750 --> 01:06:45,360
on the market is going to be
your dollars gonna be worthless,

1188
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,320
they won't do that. Because they
themselves. Yeah, so they won't

1189
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,960
do that. But the fact that they
threatened it, it means it's a

1190
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,420
possibility. So you know, say,
Okay, well, let's just go into

1191
01:06:54,420 --> 01:06:57,810
hyperinflation take the whole
thing into the stratosphere, and

1192
01:06:57,810 --> 01:07:01,800
we'll pay you guys off, get our
money back. And you know, screw

1193
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,550
yeah, here, here have $1, you
know, here here, half $700

1194
01:07:05,550 --> 01:07:08,280
trillion, you know, which is
worth nothing.

1195
01:07:09,390 --> 01:07:13,380
Right? But can we actually keep
the people in line with the

1196
01:07:13,380 --> 01:07:15,960
hyperinflation because that's,
that's got to lag behind.

1197
01:07:17,220 --> 01:07:21,270
Not always lags behind. But
Brazilians did it the best. And

1198
01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:23,250
if you go to Brazil, and talk
about this year, and I was

1199
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,490
there, during part of that era,
where you couldn't cash your

1200
01:07:26,490 --> 01:07:30,150
dollars in, you had to cash in
it, like within 10 minutes, so

1201
01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:32,580
did your purchase, because it
was just like, because it was

1202
01:07:32,580 --> 01:07:33,570
changing. So

1203
01:07:33,570 --> 01:07:38,520
radically speeding away, leaving
a parking garage, you have to

1204
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,580
you have to go 100 miles an
hour, otherwise, your parking

1205
01:07:41,580 --> 01:07:43,620
ticket costs twice as much by
the time you get out.

1206
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,520
So that the banks there are the
ones who saved the day for the

1207
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,610
general public, which is when
you got your pay for that week,

1208
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,870
which would increase on a weekly
basis, because of the values go

1209
01:07:54,870 --> 01:07:56,760
right into the bank, and the
bank would have all the

1210
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,990
mechanisms in place to ratchet,
whatever was they were holding

1211
01:08:01,230 --> 01:08:04,020
with the inflation, right? So in
other words, the interest rates

1212
01:08:04,020 --> 01:08:07,050
were quite high. And so they
would you'd get your money in

1213
01:08:07,050 --> 01:08:09,060
there real quick, and then it
would ratchet while it was in

1214
01:08:09,060 --> 01:08:12,870
there. But it didn't, you know,
discouraged actually having

1215
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:13,650
cash.

1216
01:08:14,190 --> 01:08:16,620
So which countries did that?
Have? I want to look this up?

1217
01:08:17,130 --> 01:08:20,670
Brazil, had one of the more
interesting periods. And I think

1218
01:08:20,670 --> 01:08:24,270
that was in a look in the 70s
and 80s, I think something like

1219
01:08:24,270 --> 01:08:29,400
that. And then Argentina had a
bout of this. And I think many

1220
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,120
of the South American countries
had about you can go to

1221
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,020
Zimbabwe.

1222
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,300
I actually had Zimbabwe written
down on my on my list of things

1223
01:08:39,300 --> 01:08:42,090
to talk about with you today
because I wanted to understand

1224
01:08:42,810 --> 01:08:45,810
maybe you have an idea. How does
this work now they've got

1225
01:08:46,770 --> 01:08:52,200
something Gary swung swung Gary,
who was elected as the new

1226
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,640
leader of the country, but they
still leave Mugabe in there and

1227
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,310
he's like, he's like still the
president or something. How does

1228
01:08:59,310 --> 01:09:00,810
that work? That's it.

1229
01:09:01,109 --> 01:09:02,399
They can get rid of the guy

1230
01:09:03,930 --> 01:09:07,020
that's crazy. He then what kind
of power does he must have the

1231
01:09:07,020 --> 01:09:10,230
power of the people behind him?
This is what everyone calls now.

1232
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:14,819
He's got the secret police. He
has actually the Shah of Iran.

1233
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,240
Yeah, but what do you How come
on the CIA can go in there and

1234
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:22,350
kick his ass anytime they want.
Do you think they want to? Well,

1235
01:09:22,350 --> 01:09:25,620
Zimbabwe or Rhodesia is never at
the no one's ever been able to

1236
01:09:25,650 --> 01:09:27,900
control it. But yeah, I think
they do. Of course they want to

1237
01:09:27,900 --> 01:09:29,370
it's just been extremely
difficult. I

1238
01:09:29,820 --> 01:09:32,670
could tell me why do they care?
So it's a comedy acting

1239
01:09:32,670 --> 01:09:33,750
everyone's getting a kick out of
it.

1240
01:09:33,780 --> 01:09:35,280
Come on Zimbabwe has something

1241
01:09:36,930 --> 01:09:39,300
I think has already been pulled
out whatever it is, but I'll

1242
01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:41,970
tell you this. There's an
example of modern

1243
01:09:41,970 --> 01:09:45,030
hyperinflation. And I by the
way, somebody sent me a note I'm

1244
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:49,290
gonna thank him later. They get
a guy trying to get some mugabi

1245
01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:52,050
dollars which are the dot which
are the hyperemia that Sunday

1246
01:09:52,050 --> 01:09:54,570
now you buy stuff with a brick
you know they have you just the

1247
01:09:54,570 --> 01:09:56,970
money so worthless that they
brick it up and put a rubber

1248
01:09:56,970 --> 01:09:59,940
band around it and you know you
but you know you trade into wait

1249
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,990
I have the worthless money but
there's these bills I got that

1250
01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:07,230
have Mugabe's picture on him.
I'm trying to get some mugabi

1251
01:10:07,230 --> 01:10:07,650
money.

1252
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,690
You've only mentioned this five
times, you know,

1253
01:10:09,870 --> 01:10:12,240
I mentioned it the last time I'm
not going to mention it again. I

1254
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:13,920
mean, I'm gonna have to go
through other channels,

1255
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,090
obviously, to get this money.

1256
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,700
We have more listeners now. So
it may just happen your watch,

1257
01:10:17,730 --> 01:10:19,140
you'll start getting your books,
some guy said

1258
01:10:19,140 --> 01:10:22,800
he's got a million dollar move
got a million dollar Zimbabwe

1259
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,080
note, but it doesn't have
Mugabe's picture on it. He's

1260
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,050
gonna send it to me anyway. And
so I have this, I have a million

1261
01:10:28,050 --> 01:10:33,450
dollar note. And in dollars,
it's worth like, two cents or a

1262
01:10:33,450 --> 01:10:37,260
penny, and but to a collector
might be worth $1. So you know,

1263
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,060
whatever the case, there's a
that's an example of you know,

1264
01:10:42,060 --> 01:10:47,100
of a situation where you have
hyperinflation run amok. To make

1265
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:50,490
it say, you know, it, you know,
what are you doing, you're, you

1266
01:10:50,490 --> 01:10:53,070
see the thing, this is one of
the reasons, I believe that most

1267
01:10:53,070 --> 01:10:56,460
of our debt is kept in dollars,
and that every time somebody

1268
01:10:56,460 --> 01:10:59,010
wants to switch to the euro, we
get upset about it. I always

1269
01:10:59,010 --> 01:11:01,620
thought it would be fine if
people switch the Euros and then

1270
01:11:01,620 --> 01:11:03,990
we could reverse the trend of
the value of the dollar. And

1271
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:07,050
then we could kind of screw over
anyone who went to the euro.

1272
01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:10,770
Well, the Euro has to come down.
Now. That's what the European

1273
01:11:10,770 --> 01:11:15,210
Central Bank is realising. As it
says, got to come down in value.

1274
01:11:16,650 --> 01:11:20,340
It's too high. Yeah. I was
looking at it. And of course,

1275
01:11:20,340 --> 01:11:22,470
every time you mentioned, this
is always somebody writes it

1276
01:11:22,470 --> 01:11:25,110
right? You don't understand that
we international mechanisms,

1277
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,260
because I always like to mention
wine prices. And I came up with

1278
01:11:28,260 --> 01:11:30,960
another one yesterday. So I'm
looking at this one, it's a very

1279
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,750
small may doc wine I thought was
pretty tasty. I had it was like

1280
01:11:33,780 --> 01:11:40,350
$13.95, inexpensive Bordeaux,
that was being sold locally. And

1281
01:11:40,350 --> 01:11:42,750
so I decided to look up the
chateau, which I never heard of

1282
01:11:42,750 --> 01:11:44,880
before. And I look it up. And
there, they had it for sale in

1283
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,510
England. And one of the better
places that had that has good

1284
01:11:48,510 --> 01:11:54,390
prices. And it was it was 10
pounds, 90. So the rain in

1285
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:59,970
England was $22. And the wine
here is was $14. And I'm

1286
01:11:59,970 --> 01:12:02,700
thinking the wine is coming from
France, which is a you know, you

1287
01:12:02,700 --> 01:12:06,000
could throw the bottles from
Bordeaux and hit London. So it

1288
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,460
wasn't like a big shipping
problem. And to get the wine to

1289
01:12:08,460 --> 01:12:11,730
California, you got to ship
across the Atlantic Ocean, you'd

1290
01:12:11,730 --> 01:12:14,550
put it on a train across the
country, you got to run it

1291
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:17,490
around the Panama Canal. And
this is a long way that must be

1292
01:12:17,490 --> 01:12:19,830
five bucks and shipping to get
this bottle of wine over here

1293
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:24,750
yet it's still cheaper, by a
good 678 bucks. What's wrong

1294
01:12:24,750 --> 01:12:25,620
with this picture?

1295
01:12:27,390 --> 01:12:30,360
Well, they have to manipulate
the markets better.

1296
01:12:32,250 --> 01:12:36,690
And you know, just you see this
obvious discrepancies about why

1297
01:12:36,930 --> 01:12:42,180
is somebody in England paying 22
bucks for and this is in you

1298
01:12:42,180 --> 01:12:44,520
know, and this thing is
obviously sold as a new wine. So

1299
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,630
it's been sold in euros, which
is you know, skewed toward, away

1300
01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:52,710
from the US. Why am I getting
this stuff so much cheaper here.

1301
01:12:53,100 --> 01:12:56,100
It doesn't make any sense.
Unless the whole system is like

1302
01:12:56,100 --> 01:13:00,960
caulk guide. Me. And that's why
I mean, it's like this. I talked

1303
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,600
about the other week, where
these, you go to San Francisco

1304
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,720
places crawling with Germans and
French and Italians, and a lot

1305
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,600
of British and they're buying up
the place because it's like,

1306
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,970
they get all this stuff dirt
cheap. But you look at what

1307
01:13:11,970 --> 01:13:14,220
they're buying and half the
stuffs import imported from

1308
01:13:14,220 --> 01:13:17,310
Europe. I mean, it's like, why
are you buying stuff here when

1309
01:13:17,310 --> 01:13:20,880
you? You know, it's like when I
go to Tokyo, and you go to the

1310
01:13:20,910 --> 01:13:23,520
gins and you go to those stores
and you look in there they have

1311
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,690
all this European stuff in
there. It's so expensive. That

1312
01:13:27,690 --> 01:13:30,750
you go oh my god, why would I
even be buying this stuff? You

1313
01:13:30,750 --> 01:13:33,240
know, here's ridiculous then you
realise this because it's coming

1314
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,610
all the way from Europe, you
know, and it's showing up in a

1315
01:13:35,610 --> 01:13:40,080
Japanese store. Yeah, it's not
going to be cheaper. But it is

1316
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:40,680
here.

1317
01:13:42,510 --> 01:13:48,300
Let me switch gears here for a
second big news about Sotheby's

1318
01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:53,790
the auction house for the for
the first time ever a living

1319
01:13:53,790 --> 01:13:57,960
artist Damien Hirst. Have you
heard of this guy? No. This is

1320
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,340
the guy who does stuff he does
like animals and formaldehyde

1321
01:14:02,340 --> 01:14:12,000
and really weird art. Okay, so
he set up for an auction on I

1322
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:18,780
think it's Monday which is
estimated to sell 65 million

1323
01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:21,780
pounds worth this is uh, this
may be the guy who actually the

1324
01:14:21,780 --> 01:14:26,460
I wonder if he did the the the
fat Council collector or

1325
01:14:26,460 --> 01:14:30,810
whatever it was that we talked
about aeons ago. But anyway,

1326
01:14:30,810 --> 01:14:33,780
he's going directly through the
Auction House. I don't know much

1327
01:14:33,780 --> 01:14:36,120
about auctions, but I do know
that when people are worried

1328
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:40,320
about something he's not going
through an agent. And now you

1329
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,020
know, this is and of course this
stuff is all subjective anyway,

1330
01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:46,890
and it's, you know, what is art
worth other than the materials

1331
01:14:46,890 --> 01:14:50,280
that it was put together with?
Or as Andy Warhol would say what

1332
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:54,600
you can get away with and and so
there's people are thinking this

1333
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:59,820
is going to flop which would
just kill the wealth kill a lot

1334
01:14:59,820 --> 01:15:03,660
of Um, how the art world is
thinking now that, you know, the

1335
01:15:03,690 --> 01:15:07,260
they've all the grandmasters
have all been bought up and no

1336
01:15:07,260 --> 01:15:09,540
one's selling anymore, and
they're all hidden away or been

1337
01:15:09,540 --> 01:15:12,270
stolen or whatever. And now
people are going after living

1338
01:15:12,270 --> 01:15:15,390
artists. And so it's it's
interesting, it's something

1339
01:15:15,390 --> 01:15:17,250
that's never happened in their
history before.

1340
01:15:18,300 --> 01:15:22,170
You know, living artists stuff
isn't dirt cheap. Now, this

1341
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,790
guy's just saying I'm saying if,
if living artists stuff isn't

1342
01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:31,530
dirt cheap, there's not going to
move. I mean, the only appeal of

1343
01:15:31,530 --> 01:15:33,810
living artists, generally
speaking, is to have a nice

1344
01:15:33,810 --> 01:15:38,910
decorative piece of possibly
good art, inexpensively,

1345
01:15:38,970 --> 01:15:40,320
relatively speaking.

1346
01:15:41,940 --> 01:15:43,350
Well, I don't know,

1347
01:15:43,770 --> 01:15:46,140
who's gonna be paying, you know,
this kind of money unless you're

1348
01:15:46,140 --> 01:15:48,390
projecting into the future,
that's going to be worth more

1349
01:15:48,420 --> 01:15:50,640
because it's obviously when you
get into the millions of dollars

1350
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,240
as investment grade art. And I
don't, I'm not seeing it. But

1351
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,230
I read this differently. The
what I read is that you bypass

1352
01:15:58,230 --> 01:16:00,870
the dealer, the dealer is, of
course, the key guy, because

1353
01:16:00,870 --> 01:16:03,780
he's the one that inflates the
value in the market and is out

1354
01:16:03,780 --> 01:16:07,110
there doing the PR and the
bullshit. So now the artists is

1355
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:10,770
going direct, I don't know if 65
million pounds is dirt cheap.

1356
01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:14,700
That it is, it's not
inexpensive. But let's put it

1357
01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:16,920
this way if anyone had gone
through, and I think anyone who

1358
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,970
out there collects art from
living artists, you 90% of the

1359
01:16:20,970 --> 01:16:24,270
time that you find an artist you
like you go bypass the dealer

1360
01:16:24,270 --> 01:16:26,130
anyway, this is one of the
reasons that dealers have to

1361
01:16:26,130 --> 01:16:28,860
mark stuff up because they know
this goes on and the artists say

1362
01:16:28,860 --> 01:16:30,840
oh, you know, I've got an
exclusive with such and such a

1363
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,560
gallery. That's bull, you can
find an artist, you know that

1364
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,950
you really like you just track
them down. You go to their

1365
01:16:37,950 --> 01:16:41,130
studio, you fall all over
yourself. And the next thing you

1366
01:16:41,130 --> 01:16:44,160
know you're getting the stuff at
the artists price to the dealer

1367
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:50,760
or less. I mean, I've had people
give me stuff. And so that's not

1368
01:16:50,790 --> 01:16:53,340
that's bull. That sounds like
the whole thing is a publicity

1369
01:16:53,340 --> 01:16:55,380
stunt to Oh, we don't have to go
through the dealer and go

1370
01:16:55,380 --> 01:16:57,570
straight to the auction house.
If you really want this guy

1371
01:16:57,570 --> 01:17:00,510
stuff. Just go visit the guy.
He's not like hiding.

1372
01:17:00,540 --> 01:17:04,620
Speaking of bull the sale
centrepiece is the golden calf a

1373
01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:08,940
sculpture of a book in
formaldehyde with hooves and

1374
01:17:08,940 --> 01:17:13,170
horns cast in 18 karat solid
gold expected to sell before

1375
01:17:13,170 --> 01:17:17,610
between eight and 12 million
pounds. It's a bargain

1376
01:17:18,389 --> 01:17:19,859
if they're given it away

1377
01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:21,630
by two.

1378
01:17:23,730 --> 01:17:26,160
Anyway, I'm just saying the
whole thing sounds like a scam

1379
01:17:26,250 --> 01:17:31,050
and some tech news that you
might be interested in the

1380
01:17:31,740 --> 01:17:33,870
government the government
commission, way, way, way,

1381
01:17:33,900 --> 01:17:35,940
way before you go into the tech
news. I'm gonna just add one

1382
01:17:35,940 --> 01:17:39,330
more little thing that I think
by the way that most art you

1383
01:17:39,330 --> 01:17:42,270
know, the whole art scene is
something of a scam anyway, of

1384
01:17:42,270 --> 01:17:46,620
course it is bright, but it's so
I want so I like rugs. You know,

1385
01:17:46,620 --> 01:17:49,050
I like Turkish and Persian
Persian carpets, by the way are

1386
01:17:49,050 --> 01:17:50,310
dirt cheap now you can get them

1387
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,490
rather well socks like before,
before Iran. But

1388
01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:57,870
I've always been fascinated.
I've always been fascinated by

1389
01:17:57,870 --> 01:18:00,270
like these carpets is because
they're all handmade and I like

1390
01:18:00,270 --> 01:18:04,320
to different sizes. And if I
like to flat weeds too, but so I

1391
01:18:04,410 --> 01:18:06,270
know enough. And I read books
and I tried to figure out

1392
01:18:06,270 --> 01:18:08,490
because this worst is worse,
much worse than wine. And this

1393
01:18:08,490 --> 01:18:11,340
is like extremely complicated
business. So I finally found

1394
01:18:11,340 --> 01:18:17,910
some expert. And he only had one
word of advice. This guy knows

1395
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:20,490
everything in the world about
rugs and the Turkish rugs and

1396
01:18:20,490 --> 01:18:23,250
the Afghan rugs and the war rugs
and all the rest of them. And I

1397
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,190
and I said so he gave me the
sage piece of advice. He says

1398
01:18:26,190 --> 01:18:28,980
whatever you paid for a rug, you
paid too much.

1399
01:18:31,020 --> 01:18:34,170
That's like the advice I got
when I looked at buying my own

1400
01:18:34,170 --> 01:18:37,680
plane. And the advice was if it
floats, flies a foreigner case

1401
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:44,160
you should rent it. So the UK
commissioned a the government

1402
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:48,330
commissioned a report about the
internet because he of course,

1403
01:18:48,330 --> 01:18:50,460
just like America, you know,
said we have to be leading we

1404
01:18:50,460 --> 01:18:54,540
have to be the leaders, we need
more bandwidth. And so what

1405
01:18:54,540 --> 01:18:56,790
they're contemplating now, and I
didn't know that this was an

1406
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:59,550
issue, but now that I think
about it, it's obviously a

1407
01:18:59,550 --> 01:19:03,990
beautification issue. They're
now talking about allowing fibre

1408
01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:07,980
to run to run above ground in
order to to make it cheaper and

1409
01:19:07,980 --> 01:19:09,090
to roll it out faster.

1410
01:19:10,650 --> 01:19:11,640
That's not new.

1411
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:13,320
It is here.

1412
01:19:13,889 --> 01:19:16,649
We don't know because we have
fibre come into our place in

1413
01:19:16,649 --> 01:19:17,399
Port Angeles.

1414
01:19:18,150 --> 01:19:21,120
You have to understand in
America a telephone wires and

1415
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,090
all this stuff and electricity
is above ground in many

1416
01:19:24,090 --> 01:19:27,360
countries in the world, John
it's and it's below ground. And

1417
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,100
that's dumb because people think
it's ugly.

1418
01:19:29,910 --> 01:19:32,700
It is well you know, I think
it's charming to be honest about

1419
01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:32,850
it.

1420
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,810
I hate it because it really
reduces the amount of places I

1421
01:19:36,810 --> 01:19:38,760
can land my plane and an
emergency.

1422
01:19:39,179 --> 01:19:42,659
Well that I can understand. But
I'm looking at the I'm looking

1423
01:19:42,659 --> 01:19:45,749
at there's some neighbourhoods
around here that have you know,

1424
01:19:45,749 --> 01:19:48,239
they we do that too. We go
underground and always ends up

1425
01:19:48,239 --> 01:19:51,929
getting flooded by the rain and
it's shorts out it's a disaster,

1426
01:19:52,289 --> 01:19:54,719
but it would but to some of the
neighbourhoods that had the

1427
01:19:54,719 --> 01:19:57,179
telephone poles and they were
like loaded with all kinds of

1428
01:19:57,209 --> 01:20:00,329
you know, cable TV and and
people just wire any Hang on

1429
01:20:00,329 --> 01:20:04,259
there. Then they took the poles
down and put it all underground

1430
01:20:04,259 --> 01:20:08,129
and it looks kind of stir rile
it doesn't have any life to it.

1431
01:20:08,129 --> 01:20:10,559
I mean, it's just like, you
know, just looks kind of, it's

1432
01:20:10,559 --> 01:20:14,339
creepy to me. Oh, girl, I was
raised in an environment filled

1433
01:20:14,339 --> 01:20:18,089
with telephone poles, I have to
say, but it's something creepy

1434
01:20:18,089 --> 01:20:20,879
about the polis areas, there's
no, you don't feel the

1435
01:20:20,879 --> 01:20:23,999
connection between people. I
mean, you can visibly see the

1436
01:20:23,999 --> 01:20:26,789
connections. I mean, you see,
this guy's hooked up a pole, you

1437
01:20:26,789 --> 01:20:29,849
know, and I'm hooked to the
pole, and I got a cable TV thing

1438
01:20:29,849 --> 01:20:32,429
coming in. And, you know, and
it's easier for them to make

1439
01:20:32,429 --> 01:20:34,979
changes they want to bring you
want to bring an extra line and

1440
01:20:34,979 --> 01:20:35,699
you know, they just want to

1441
01:20:37,230 --> 01:20:40,230
throw it over the phone. That's
true. I've never thought of it

1442
01:20:40,230 --> 01:20:42,780
that way is as you can see the
connections between people.

1443
01:20:43,589 --> 01:20:46,289
As in Yeah, I think it's Yeah,
and I've always found it to be

1444
01:20:46,319 --> 01:20:48,959
somewhat comforting. And it's
kind of cool to find you go to

1445
01:20:48,959 --> 01:20:51,599
the old part of the, you know,
some old little town in the

1446
01:20:51,599 --> 01:20:54,659
middle of nowhere, and they have
all these old metal poles, and

1447
01:20:54,659 --> 01:20:58,289
they told me glass insulators
and is still you know, it's

1448
01:20:58,319 --> 01:21:02,999
sparking, working, you know, and
and go, Wow, it's just something

1449
01:21:02,999 --> 01:21:05,519
about it. I don't know, I think
it's charming in the fact that

1450
01:21:05,519 --> 01:21:08,609
people that want to rip these
poles down, I can see in in

1451
01:21:08,609 --> 01:21:11,069
areas where you can't afford the
wood, because these poles are,

1452
01:21:11,069 --> 01:21:14,849
you know, typically, you know,
pretty tall trees, but I don't

1453
01:21:14,849 --> 01:21:17,849
know, doesn't bother me. Let's
put it that way.

1454
01:21:18,210 --> 01:21:22,170
Right. Well, anyway, it's a big
deal over here, because people

1455
01:21:22,170 --> 01:21:26,490
don't like their wires running
around above ground. It's not.

1456
01:21:28,290 --> 01:21:30,990
Yeah, well, in a city, of
course. I mean, it's, you don't

1457
01:21:30,990 --> 01:21:33,390
want it because it doesn't make
any sense. And you got a big

1458
01:21:33,420 --> 01:21:35,670
skyscraper and a telephone pole.

1459
01:21:36,090 --> 01:21:39,540
that cities are never the
problem in that London's got 20

1460
01:21:39,540 --> 01:21:43,380
megabytes per second up and
down, and they've got the shit.

1461
01:21:43,380 --> 01:21:48,420
I'm still doing. One megabit
down. 300 kilobytes up from

1462
01:21:48,420 --> 01:21:52,560
where I am fastest I can get.
Yeah. And pretty late. And boy,

1463
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,420
it shows when we do these shows,
doesn't it?

1464
01:21:55,020 --> 01:21:59,640
Well, sometimes. But you know,
that's a pretty blame connection

1465
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:00,270
for today.

1466
01:22:00,390 --> 01:22:03,990
It's really lame. And it's just
because I'm too far away from

1467
01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:05,100
the exchange and it just

1468
01:22:05,580 --> 01:22:09,120
to get a good connection as a
backup. Yeah, you know, well,

1469
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:09,600
actually, I have

1470
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,050
one of those Vodafone dongles
that you plug into your laptop.

1471
01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:17,130
And although there is a limit,
so I can't use it all the time.

1472
01:22:17,130 --> 01:22:21,450
whenever I upload a show. I
always plug that in, because it

1473
01:22:21,450 --> 01:22:25,140
uploads at almost a megabit per
second. I have to the wireless

1474
01:22:25,140 --> 01:22:27,060
connection is better than the
wired connection.

1475
01:22:28,620 --> 01:22:34,170
Yeah, that's that there's no
reason for that. That's wrong. I

1476
01:22:34,170 --> 01:22:37,860
don't think you know, wireless
is great, but I'm not wired is,

1477
01:22:38,220 --> 01:22:45,060
is best. I'm down with that. So
what else? You got your notes?

1478
01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:49,380
And I didn't get an only note I
had was to do the Sarah Palin

1479
01:22:49,950 --> 01:22:52,950
lipstick thing because somebody
was interested on Twitter. They

1480
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:56,820
mentioned you got to talk about
it. What's your opinion? And I

1481
01:22:56,820 --> 01:22:58,890
also had a theory Oh, yeah, I
did have one thing I was gonna

1482
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,600
do, which was my I was gonna
send you this video. But it was

1483
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:09,660
a picture. It was Clinton
talking to Obama. He was going

1484
01:23:09,660 --> 01:23:13,170
to have lunch with him. And then
he was doing this thing. He came

1485
01:23:13,170 --> 01:23:15,840
out and says he's going to that
Obama is going to win, Haley,

1486
01:23:15,870 --> 01:23:18,870
he's going to win big is what he
said. Well, he said the word was

1487
01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:22,200
handily actually Oh, I thought
you said big. Okay. Anyway, so

1488
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,900
he would he they showed this
video. It's on the blog. And

1489
01:23:24,900 --> 01:23:27,480
Clinton is standing there with
his mouth open. He looks like

1490
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:32,610
he's gassed. And he goes, sorry,

1491
01:23:32,670 --> 01:23:34,530
he doesn't look well. No, he

1492
01:23:34,530 --> 01:23:36,690
doesn't look well. He looks like
he's drunk, actually. And he

1493
01:23:36,690 --> 01:23:40,380
sounds kind of slurry. And I
think and now this is like out

1494
01:23:40,380 --> 01:23:42,840
there. And I'm thinking I should
I even bring this up because

1495
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,440
it's obvious that Clinton, Bill
Clinton, once Obama, when he

1496
01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:50,760
he'll do anything for him to win
for obvious reasons. He doesn't

1497
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,790
want his wife running in 2012.
Because it's a big hassle. And

1498
01:23:53,790 --> 01:23:56,790
if she gets to be president,
he's life has ruined. Right.

1499
01:23:57,630 --> 01:23:58,170
Okay,

1500
01:23:58,200 --> 01:23:59,970
I hadn't thought of that. Yeah,
that makes sense,

1501
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:05,280
is why his life has ruined me.
Well, she wants to him to lose,

1502
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,790
because she knows she has a shot
in 2012. If he does, you know, I

1503
01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:11,160
mean, this is gonna be your last
shot. And she'd love to be

1504
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:12,930
president. Otherwise, she
wouldn't have put all this work

1505
01:24:12,930 --> 01:24:15,960
into it. So she wants him to
lose and he wants him to win.

1506
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,390
I'm wondering if she's either
poisoning him.

1507
01:24:18,420 --> 01:24:21,150
Yes, he's gonna kill him. There
you go there. Thank you, John. I

1508
01:24:21,150 --> 01:24:26,820
love that theory. Next on the
Clinton hit list is Bill.

1509
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,370
I mean, it just seems to me that
he doesn't look himself. And

1510
01:24:32,370 --> 01:24:35,430
he's kind of dinghy. And she's,
I'm sure he's not happy with

1511
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:38,490
this, him going and meeting with
Obama and then now going to

1512
01:24:38,490 --> 01:24:41,880
Florida to promote him and all
the rest of it. And you know, I

1513
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:45,000
don't know if she has access to
his food. But then again, it

1514
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,160
could be you know, anybody who
would want to get him out of the

1515
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,440
picture, but then again, it
could also be the Obama people

1516
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:53,550
because if Clinton for some
reason, and I'm not wishing this

1517
01:24:53,550 --> 01:24:56,820
on the guy because he's, you
know, not even old enough to be

1518
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:02,310
elderly. If something happened
to me He died, let's say from

1519
01:25:02,340 --> 01:25:05,880
natural causes you have a heart
attack as part of a heart attack

1520
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,790
or from the bad luck with
operation or who knows what drug

1521
01:25:08,820 --> 01:25:11,520
the drugs that he had to take. I
mean, there's a million plus, it

1522
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:16,950
would create a huge sympathy
vote for Obama and Oh, man. So I

1523
01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:19,680
mean, so you're on his camp
could be killing him for all we

1524
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:25,110
know it. I mean, it's just like,
there's too many. There's too

1525
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:27,240
many parties that did, it would
be a great mystery, by the way,

1526
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,850
too, right? Because there's all
these different parties that

1527
01:25:29,850 --> 01:25:33,930
would like to get rid of him for
all kinds of different reasons.

1528
01:25:33,930 --> 01:25:37,260
And then again, if it would
cause a symphony, a sympathy

1529
01:25:37,260 --> 01:25:41,580
vote for Obama, then would
Hillary really want him gone? Or

1530
01:25:41,580 --> 01:25:46,080
then forget that let's Don't
Kill Bill. Let's just make him

1531
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,140
kind of dinghy and like a
goofball. You know, because

1532
01:25:49,140 --> 01:25:51,300
he's, you know, who knows? So
he's just,

1533
01:25:52,770 --> 01:25:54,270
he can get through, you can get
through any kind of

1534
01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:56,250
embarrassment. Let me analyse
what you're saying, because

1535
01:25:56,250 --> 01:25:59,670
that's very interesting. First
of all, I think, the idea that

1536
01:25:59,670 --> 01:26:06,450
he would hate to be the first,
the first man is spot on,

1537
01:26:06,450 --> 01:26:09,630
because that effectively takes
away his main source of income

1538
01:26:09,630 --> 01:26:12,960
was just millions and millions
and millions of dollars on the

1539
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,020
speaking circuit. I guess. You
can't do that when you're

1540
01:26:16,050 --> 01:26:19,710
married to the President. So
that would probably suck because

1541
01:26:19,740 --> 01:26:24,510
and you and I, and you, and I
know this, the guy is notorious

1542
01:26:24,510 --> 01:26:27,780
cokehead. This is probably what
caused his heart trouble in the

1543
01:26:27,780 --> 01:26:30,450
first place. He may still be
snorting coke. Do you think you

1544
01:26:30,450 --> 01:26:30,960
look high?

1545
01:26:32,340 --> 01:26:34,560
He didn't look coked up. Let's
put it that way. I don't think

1546
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,050
so. But he just seemed like he
was like, didn't get enough

1547
01:26:37,050 --> 01:26:38,640
sleep or his Jesus shadow.

1548
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,600
When he's when he turned towards
Obama. And it was on profile.

1549
01:26:42,690 --> 01:26:46,170
He's a shadow of himself. He's
really, really thin. He's, like,

1550
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,350
almost a Steve Jobs like
transformation. You know. And

1551
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:53,940
Steve Jobs was seriously ill.
Clinton had a has a serious

1552
01:26:53,940 --> 01:26:59,460
heart issue. But he has not he's
not gained back any of his

1553
01:26:59,460 --> 01:27:02,820
posture. He was a bit he's a big
guy.

1554
01:27:03,330 --> 01:27:05,790
Yeah, yeah. And he used to work
out eating

1555
01:27:05,790 --> 01:27:10,080
away. So anyway, so that so that
makes that meant, well, he

1556
01:27:10,110 --> 01:27:12,660
wouldn't be hard if he's if he's
still a cokehead, it wouldn't be

1557
01:27:12,660 --> 01:27:16,050
hard to to keep him addicted.

1558
01:27:17,130 --> 01:27:20,040
Oh, man, maybe I'm not buying
that. I mean, at his age with

1559
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,890
the bad heart, I can't imagine
him not having enough willpower

1560
01:27:22,890 --> 01:27:25,800
to just say no to that. And I
always wondered about people

1561
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,620
that are using drugs in their
older years. It doesn't make a

1562
01:27:28,620 --> 01:27:34,470
lot of sense to me. But the heat
something's up is all I know. It

1563
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:38,460
just seems he seemed dinghy. He
looked like he was like, in some

1564
01:27:38,460 --> 01:27:41,880
other planet. And then he makes
these crazy assertions, which,

1565
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,580
you know, he's just thought
Hillary was gonna win too, as

1566
01:27:44,580 --> 01:27:48,090
somebody pointed out, but I just
think that this guy's in like,

1567
01:27:48,090 --> 01:27:50,670
in you know, he's part of
whatever we're going to see in

1568
01:27:50,670 --> 01:27:53,310
the next eight weeks or seven
weeks is going to be he's going

1569
01:27:53,310 --> 01:27:56,670
to be part of the action is
going to be. Again, like I said,

1570
01:27:56,670 --> 01:27:59,610
when we started the show, this
is going to be hilarious little

1571
01:27:59,610 --> 01:28:02,220
period to watch, you know, give
us some to talk about and I'll

1572
01:28:02,220 --> 01:28:05,220
tell you, my, my blog numbers
are way up because we do a lot

1573
01:28:05,220 --> 01:28:10,260
of political blog posts. Mostly
my bloggers are all a bunch of

1574
01:28:10,260 --> 01:28:13,890
Democrats generally. And we're
going to thank Bubba, by the way

1575
01:28:13,890 --> 01:28:14,610
for putting the notes

1576
01:28:15,060 --> 01:28:20,070
right onto bubba. Hey, so I look
this up here. So he said Obama

1577
01:28:20,070 --> 01:28:26,040
will will win handily. Yeah,
handily advised, said handily,

1578
01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:31,410
skillfully deck seriously
dexterously expertly,

1579
01:28:31,620 --> 01:28:36,030
conveniently, or easily, easily
is actually the third meaning

1580
01:28:36,030 --> 01:28:36,930
according to

1581
01:28:37,050 --> 01:28:41,130
Yeah, I think he meant easily.
And then last night on the Bill

1582
01:28:41,130 --> 01:28:44,850
Maher show you had your typical
two you had two Democrats,

1583
01:28:45,090 --> 01:28:48,630
Salman Rushdie, who I didn't
realise was almost a you know, a

1584
01:28:48,630 --> 01:28:52,500
socialist, and, and Janine
Garoppolo who was like, you

1585
01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:54,480
know, this, you know, woman,

1586
01:28:54,510 --> 01:28:58,770
by the way, by the way, I love
Janine garofolo. So lay off.

1587
01:28:59,730 --> 01:29:02,610
She's awesome. Have you seen
those digits? You could just see

1588
01:29:02,610 --> 01:29:05,700
her tattoos on her arms. Yeah,
she got tattoos. Lots of

1589
01:29:05,700 --> 01:29:07,020
tattoos. Now she's hot, man.
There's

1590
01:29:07,020 --> 01:29:09,450
something really hot about her.
I like her. I've never thought

1591
01:29:09,450 --> 01:29:11,730
her as hot in any way. But
that's okay with you. I

1592
01:29:11,730 --> 01:29:15,360
love all willing because they're
all Sun princesses. Okay.

1593
01:29:16,470 --> 01:29:21,000
Can I finish? Yes. So the two of
them. These two are sitting next

1594
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,730
year. They both agree. And by
the way, there's a guy from Wall

1595
01:29:23,730 --> 01:29:26,820
Street Journal, John Ford, I
think is his name, who actually

1596
01:29:26,820 --> 01:29:30,000
stood up to everybody very nice
them at the sentiment email. But

1597
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,740
anyway, the these two both
agreed to each other. That is

1598
01:29:34,740 --> 01:29:39,390
going to be a landslide for
Obama really matter what anybody

1599
01:29:39,390 --> 01:29:41,940
thinks. And that's they're not
the only ones who feel this way.

1600
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:43,890
And that's where I think the
Clinton thing came from.

1601
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,120
Interesting. And what's
interesting to me is that if you

1602
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,340
go to the other side of the
fence, and I'm like, try to

1603
01:29:50,370 --> 01:29:53,580
listen to both sides, for the
purposes of this show, have no

1604
01:29:53,580 --> 01:29:58,410
other reason to listen to Rush
Limbaugh, who has become a very

1605
01:29:58,410 --> 01:30:03,240
good deconstructionist. He
believes it'll be a landslide

1606
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,760
from you know, he's doesn't say
it'll be a landslide for McCain,

1607
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,060
but he says he wouldn't be
surprised. And I'm kind of more

1608
01:30:09,060 --> 01:30:10,470
in agreement with him. Well,

1609
01:30:10,499 --> 01:30:13,949
I think, except there's one.
There's one little catch, which

1610
01:30:13,949 --> 01:30:18,719
is, although it was I think it
was poorly executed. Ron Paul's

1611
01:30:18,719 --> 01:30:22,499
endorsement. Where do you
endorse what? What exactly

1612
01:30:22,499 --> 01:30:24,209
happened there? At first it
really

1613
01:30:24,210 --> 01:30:26,580
was where I never got to see the
end of it. I know that we're

1614
01:30:26,580 --> 01:30:28,560
gonna do some sort of a deal I
thought they were gonna run the

1615
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:34,650
guy was he gonna say this guy
web not web. But the, that other

1616
01:30:34,650 --> 01:30:37,920
the the Libertarian candidate?
Did he endorse him?

1617
01:30:38,459 --> 01:30:41,429
I'm looking it up. Because and
this is I was really pissed

1618
01:30:41,429 --> 01:30:43,829
because all of a sudden, I
started getting all the emails

1619
01:30:43,829 --> 01:30:46,709
from people saying, Hey, man,
hey, Ron, Paul, and Ron, your

1620
01:30:46,709 --> 01:30:49,619
big announcement, and they had
some heat go and everyone was

1621
01:30:49,619 --> 01:30:52,259
talking about it. Everyone was
blogging about it. And yeah, we

1622
01:30:52,259 --> 01:30:55,529
blogged it. Yeah. And then and
then it's like Brown, it just

1623
01:30:55,529 --> 01:30:58,529
kind of dies. And you know,
there's no no coverage, no,

1624
01:30:58,529 --> 01:31:03,389
nothing. And I'm looking now on
campaign for liberty.com. I

1625
01:31:03,389 --> 01:31:09,269
think that he endorsed the was
either the libertarian

1626
01:31:09,810 --> 01:31:11,670
would have to be the
libertarian, who else would be

1627
01:31:12,060 --> 01:31:15,900
the Constitution Party. Oh, I
guess there's another one. Yeah,

1628
01:31:15,900 --> 01:31:19,230
there's actually about three
fringe groups that are running

1629
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:19,680
this is

1630
01:31:19,710 --> 01:31:24,150
this is thing that our foreign
listeners probably don't realise

1631
01:31:24,390 --> 01:31:28,440
is that America is not just a to
effectively it is, of course, a

1632
01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:32,790
two party system. But it's not
that, you know, anyone can stand

1633
01:31:32,790 --> 01:31:36,030
up and run for president. And
you don't even have to be a

1634
01:31:36,030 --> 01:31:39,660
member of a party. And there are
plenty of people that put

1635
01:31:39,660 --> 01:31:41,730
themselves on the ticket. The
problem is, of course, they

1636
01:31:41,730 --> 01:31:44,460
don't get invited to the
debates. And so if you're not in

1637
01:31:44,460 --> 01:31:46,860
television, and you don't have
the budget for television, then

1638
01:31:46,860 --> 01:31:50,790
you don't become president, nor
do you become Maj. Selling

1639
01:31:50,820 --> 01:31:56,490
Palmolive. That's just the way
it works. Yeah, they don't even

1640
01:31:56,490 --> 01:31:58,800
have it on their on their
website. What the hell is

1641
01:31:59,099 --> 01:32:04,469
bars the guy that's running?
Right. And Chuck Baldwin, that's

1642
01:32:04,469 --> 01:32:07,769
libertarian guy. He knows Joe
Baldwin is the Constitution

1643
01:32:07,769 --> 01:32:09,599
Party and bars deliberately. So
I

1644
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,170
think Ron Paul endorsed both of
them. Is that the story?

1645
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,680
I didn't know I did. I never got
the follow up to this story. I

1646
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:20,160
just blogged the first part of
it, which was on the ninth and

1647
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,850
then I never heard anything else
and never bothered checking. You

1648
01:32:23,850 --> 01:32:26,670
know, I thought it would show up
in the VA on the radar never

1649
01:32:26,670 --> 01:32:27,090
did.

1650
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:30,120
That's frustrating.

1651
01:32:31,650 --> 01:32:34,980
Well, how did you do a Google
and Ryan bar and or Bob bar and

1652
01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:35,850
Ron Paul?

1653
01:32:36,179 --> 01:32:40,259
Yeah. So I have a divider. Not a
uniter that American chronicle

1654
01:32:40,259 --> 01:32:44,519
is the top hit Give me a break.
Singh wasn't covering. Oh, I

1655
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:48,060
see bought Oh, no. And the
chance of a bar as Ron Paul to

1656
01:32:48,060 --> 01:32:48,990
be his running mate.

1657
01:32:49,020 --> 01:32:52,200
Right. But didn't he decline?
Well, what Yeah, well, he

1658
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,720
said in advance, long time ago
that he wasn't going to do

1659
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,410
anything that would. He wasn't
gonna do anything if he couldn't

1660
01:32:58,410 --> 01:33:00,510
get the nomination as a
Republican. I mean, he made a

1661
01:33:00,510 --> 01:33:01,230
point of that.

1662
01:33:01,470 --> 01:33:04,770
Oh, what's this? Now I'm seeing
Bob Barr pulled out of a press

1663
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,560
conference, Paul's campaign for
Liberty held the National Press

1664
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,840
Club in DC, which included
independent presidential

1665
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,380
candidate Ralph Nader. Green
Party candidate Cynthia

1666
01:33:13,380 --> 01:33:16,320
McKinney. Oh, that's right. And
concept Constitution Party

1667
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:20,130
candidate, Chuck Baldwin. So I
guess what Ron Paul was was

1668
01:33:20,130 --> 01:33:22,620
doing was saying, Hey, here's
some alternatives that you can

1669
01:33:22,620 --> 01:33:25,590
also vote for Cynthia McKinney,
by the way very interesting.

1670
01:33:26,370 --> 01:33:31,680
Story, you know about her? No.
Oh my gosh. She there's a

1671
01:33:31,710 --> 01:33:35,160
there's an there's a whole
documentary movie about her.

1672
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,230
I'll send you a link. I can't
remember the name of it is right

1673
01:33:37,230 --> 01:33:42,570
now. But she is she's quite a
history of changing politics in

1674
01:33:42,570 --> 01:33:47,370
the United States. She's black
senator. Black female. So

1675
01:33:47,370 --> 01:33:50,400
I've seen her yeah, not you
mentioned it just because she's

1676
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:50,880
to handle

1677
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:56,280
a very sharp. Well, extremely,
and Ralph Nader. He's he I heard

1678
01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:00,600
him on the Alex Jones Show the
other day. He's now become a

1679
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:05,550
truther. How about them apples?

1680
01:34:06,180 --> 01:34:08,910
Well, the truth of the thing has
got you know, the problem is, is

1681
01:34:08,910 --> 01:34:12,090
that you here's the problem that
I don't know what I mean. I'm

1682
01:34:12,090 --> 01:34:14,280
almost thinking that the
government is encouraged

1683
01:34:14,310 --> 01:34:18,420
encouraging this, the truthers
because they refused to release

1684
01:34:18,420 --> 01:34:21,270
the videotape from the gas
station showing the plane

1685
01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:23,190
crashing into the Pentagon. Why?

1686
01:34:23,670 --> 01:34:27,600
Because, because it wasn't a
plane because it wasn't a plane

1687
01:34:27,660 --> 01:34:30,720
John, it was a missile,
dauntless whatever they listen

1688
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:34,170
to this, listen to me for all
this crap. Don't don't know

1689
01:34:34,170 --> 01:34:38,280
about the flight data recorder.
You don't know about that. All

1690
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,820
right, tell me about it. Okay,
the flight data recorder. This

1691
01:34:41,820 --> 01:34:46,020
is from pilots for
911 truth.ca.org and I'm a

1692
01:34:46,020 --> 01:34:48,300
member of that because I act
that's the one thing I actually

1693
01:34:48,300 --> 01:34:52,200
know something about us about
flying. And so the NTSB finally

1694
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:59,190
released the the black box data.
And first of all, it shows a

1695
01:34:59,190 --> 01:35:04,110
trajectory this This 757 made,
which is any professional pilot,

1696
01:35:04,110 --> 01:35:07,170
and many of them have said
impossible to do. You can't pull

1697
01:35:07,170 --> 01:35:10,950
that manoeuvre off with that
type of aircraft, which is a 330

1698
01:35:10,950 --> 01:35:15,270
degree turn. But also the
altimeter settings because you

1699
01:35:15,270 --> 01:35:17,880
know, we know the atmospheric
conditions for each day. That's

1700
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,880
history, right? It's written
down, and the way the alternate

1701
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:24,570
altimeter was set and the data
that the doctor data the NTSB

1702
01:35:24,570 --> 01:35:28,860
sent shows that the plane
actually overflew the Pentagon

1703
01:35:28,860 --> 01:35:33,780
by about 480 feet as it dropped
the motherfucking missile and

1704
01:35:33,780 --> 01:35:38,280
flew off, which I witnesses have
also said they saw happen, so

1705
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,620
there was no plane. That's why
they don't release that footage

1706
01:35:40,620 --> 01:35:44,760
because it was and by the way,
it happened to be on a piece of

1707
01:35:44,790 --> 01:35:48,390
a side of the Pentagon that was
under construction that had just

1708
01:35:48,390 --> 01:35:52,350
been fortified. It was the exact
opposite side of the building is

1709
01:35:52,350 --> 01:35:54,930
where any of the heavyweights
sat. And by the way, if you're

1710
01:35:54,930 --> 01:35:57,150
going to crash a plane and kill
someone in the Pentagon hit the

1711
01:35:57,150 --> 01:36:01,230
frickin roof. Why try and skim
along the ground, which is

1712
01:36:01,260 --> 01:36:05,340
virtually impossible to do skim
along the ground for a hundreds

1713
01:36:05,340 --> 01:36:08,700
of feet to hit right into the
side. I mean, no, this was a

1714
01:36:08,700 --> 01:36:11,580
missile that was sent by a that
was shot off by a plane that

1715
01:36:11,580 --> 01:36:15,630
overflew and left it's a
standard manoeuvre. And that's

1716
01:36:15,630 --> 01:36:19,170
from the data. This data by the
way, the black box rebooted

1717
01:36:19,170 --> 01:36:25,740
itself 20 times in in this 45
minute flight. That's at least

1718
01:36:25,740 --> 01:36:30,030
that's the data that NTSB sent
back to the pilots for

1719
01:36:30,030 --> 01:36:35,310
911 truth.org. That does not
either that doesn't happen. Or

1720
01:36:35,370 --> 01:36:38,010
it would the plane would never
take off. These black boxes are

1721
01:36:38,010 --> 01:36:40,440
checked before they leave this
regular routine checks,

1722
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:44,460
rebooting 20 times in a short
flight now it wasn't rebooted

1723
01:36:44,460 --> 01:36:49,590
was Dr. Data, doctored poorly.
Experts have corroborated this.

1724
01:36:50,730 --> 01:36:52,560
And that's why they're not going
to release the footage.

1725
01:36:53,250 --> 01:36:56,640
nevermind the fact that there's
not a single shred of passenger

1726
01:36:56,970 --> 01:37:00,720
or luggage. I love flight 93 By
the way, that's my favourite,

1727
01:37:01,170 --> 01:37:04,350
the plane that board itself into
the ground in Pennsylvania. And

1728
01:37:04,350 --> 01:37:07,500
they found nothing except a
passport and a bandana belonging

1729
01:37:07,500 --> 01:37:11,010
to the five foot hijacker who
hijacked this aeroplane with a

1730
01:37:11,010 --> 01:37:16,050
box cutter nothing is found
nothing but the bandana and the

1731
01:37:16,050 --> 01:37:16,740
passport.

1732
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,260
Just like Muhammad truther,
right.

1733
01:37:21,090 --> 01:37:23,550
Oh, no, I've never had that.
I've always been a truther.

1734
01:37:24,210 --> 01:37:27,810
So So here's the thing that the
the some of the other aspects

1735
01:37:27,810 --> 01:37:30,390
that are kind of interesting. I
mean, besides that the plane

1736
01:37:30,390 --> 01:37:37,170
crash in Pennsylvania. There's a
if the guy have seen it a

1737
01:37:37,170 --> 01:37:41,460
fighter plane, did a low pass
over the Pentagon and dropped a

1738
01:37:41,460 --> 01:37:44,820
missile or sent a little Stinger
into that or whatever they sent.

1739
01:37:44,820 --> 01:37:48,540
It was obviously some big site.
I don't know, boom, they blow it

1740
01:37:48,540 --> 01:37:52,770
up with a cruise missile.
Perhaps I don't know. Why didn't

1741
01:37:52,770 --> 01:37:54,360
you use a cruise missile instead
of this fighter is another

1742
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:59,220
question. But I would suspect
that the glider pilot if there

1743
01:37:59,220 --> 01:38:00,990
was a fighter pilot, and the
whole thing wasn't just a

1744
01:38:00,990 --> 01:38:03,660
missile from the beginning sent
from someplace else, which would

1745
01:38:03,660 --> 01:38:08,160
make more sense to me. The
fighter pilot I think life would

1746
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:08,940
be in jeopardy.

1747
01:38:12,750 --> 01:38:16,620
Well, yeah, who says the guy is
still alive? You don't know

1748
01:38:16,620 --> 01:38:19,800
that? I'm just saying more
important is what happened to

1749
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:21,180
the people on flight 93?

1750
01:38:21,930 --> 01:38:25,170
Well, you know that if you there
was 177, or whatever it

1751
01:38:25,170 --> 01:38:28,890
was, listen to this. I want you
to listen to this audio clip or

1752
01:38:28,890 --> 01:38:32,700
this video clip of Donald
Rumsfeld. You've probably heard

1753
01:38:32,700 --> 01:38:36,690
this one before. It's a Freudian
slip as he's getting a news.

1754
01:38:37,260 --> 01:38:43,350
If we imagine the kind of world
we would face if the people who

1755
01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:46,980
bombed the best home and most
are the people who did the

1756
01:38:46,980 --> 01:38:50,700
bombing in Spain, are the people
who attack the United States in

1757
01:38:50,700 --> 01:38:54,060
New York. Shut down the plane
over Pennsylvania.

1758
01:38:55,410 --> 01:38:59,190
Did you hear that? shot down the
plane in Pennsylvania that

1759
01:38:59,190 --> 01:39:01,890
Donald Rumsfeld Freudian slip,
come on.

1760
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:09,540
Yeah, no, that's good. Yeah. So
I think they'd find some of the

1761
01:39:09,540 --> 01:39:12,630
bodies or something but not no,
there was the other report that

1762
01:39:12,630 --> 01:39:15,720
the plane never never laid out.
That whole thing was rigged up

1763
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,450
and they landed someplace they
took all the people off and did

1764
01:39:18,450 --> 01:39:21,150
of course, they're probably in a
in Gitmo. I mean, who knows, I

1765
01:39:21,150 --> 01:39:21,900
actually followed

1766
01:39:21,900 --> 01:39:24,930
this whole 93 story about who
owned that land. There was a big

1767
01:39:24,930 --> 01:39:28,680
dispute about the memorial. And
I did follow that trail for a

1768
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,440
while I got bored with it. But
there's there's a lot of

1769
01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:34,560
weirdness going on with the
ownership of that of the land

1770
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:38,820
that were crashed and then next
to it, you know, there was the

1771
01:39:38,820 --> 01:39:41,250
people want to build a memorial
and there's all kinds of stuff

1772
01:39:41,250 --> 01:39:43,380
going on with that. That's
That's weird. I think we do.

1773
01:39:43,410 --> 01:39:48,120
It's that and world trend, the
World Trade Centre building

1774
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:53,130
number seven, those two really
looking into that investigating.

1775
01:39:53,340 --> 01:39:56,100
Those are the ones that really
what I said now, right, you

1776
01:39:56,100 --> 01:39:59,970
know, we certainly need a brand
new full investigation.

1777
01:40:01,079 --> 01:40:03,689
Hey, oh, well, whatever the
case, I think you might as well

1778
01:40:03,689 --> 01:40:06,659
take the whole thing back to TWA
Flight 800. That I think

1779
01:40:07,079 --> 01:40:08,669
you probably could probably

1780
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,830
because that's still a
suspicious because they're still

1781
01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:16,560
have their disguise reports and
nobody ever talked to me because

1782
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,720
they didn't do a very thorough
investigation of asking the

1783
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,360
eyewitnesses anything, they just
made their report that it was

1784
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,630
this tank blew up, and then they
still have I guess the model of

1785
01:40:24,630 --> 01:40:27,270
the thing someplace, they have
all the pieces, and some

1786
01:40:27,270 --> 01:40:31,020
warehouse and they I guess
they're still looking it over.

1787
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:34,620
But to tell you, John, yeah, I'm
definitely a truther I've just,

1788
01:40:34,650 --> 01:40:37,890
I've just heard too many really
smart people look at this from

1789
01:40:37,890 --> 01:40:41,850
too many different angles. And,
and the thing is, you know, I'm

1790
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,630
I just turned 44. And I really
have come to the realisation

1791
01:40:45,630 --> 01:40:48,660
that and this of course, is is
the big things, the big

1792
01:40:48,690 --> 01:40:51,630
awakening, the big Oh, wow
moment is when everything that

1793
01:40:51,630 --> 01:40:55,320
you've been taught from from a
small child, that there actually

1794
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:59,790
is very true evil in the world.
And there are people who are

1795
01:40:59,790 --> 01:41:05,310
just evil and will do evil
things. So I you know, and that,

1796
01:41:05,340 --> 01:41:06,090
that.

1797
01:41:08,610 --> 01:41:10,590
So you'd put Rumsfeld in that
group.

1798
01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:15,840
Yeah, I think he'd be close to
the top of the list. Now, but

1799
01:41:16,170 --> 01:41:19,680
they, they're just evil, evil
people. And I've had a couple I

1800
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,590
remember when I first got into
business, you know, because I'd

1801
01:41:22,590 --> 01:41:25,800
been working in entertainment,
wishing you get like a check,

1802
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,380
but never really ran my own
company. We had our own company.

1803
01:41:28,380 --> 01:41:30,870
And, you know, there were people
who would come in who seemed

1804
01:41:30,870 --> 01:41:34,560
like the most credible and they
were credible, and they just

1805
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:38,520
fuck you. People will just fuck
you. I mean, for money for any

1806
01:41:38,550 --> 01:41:41,760
for money, they will do anything
they want anything. They will

1807
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:47,520
lie and cheat and fuck you. And
so this this evil is out there.

1808
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:51,420
Yeah, no, I would have to say
that. You could pretty much

1809
01:41:51,420 --> 01:41:56,010
query me on anything about in
regards to 911. And I could

1810
01:41:56,010 --> 01:41:58,170
probably answer it.

1811
01:42:01,950 --> 01:42:02,700
Okay, well,

1812
01:42:04,410 --> 01:42:07,230
like, Fuck no, I'm not going to
ask this guy anything.

1813
01:42:09,480 --> 01:42:11,490
I'm sure that there'll be some
questions coming in.

1814
01:42:12,510 --> 01:42:15,870
The latest thing that was in the
paper was I love this one.

1815
01:42:16,410 --> 01:42:19,500
Because, you know, of course,
the NIS t, which is, it's a

1816
01:42:19,500 --> 01:42:22,290
bush, it's part of the
administration is like some, you

1817
01:42:22,290 --> 01:42:26,610
know, it's an organisation that
he chooses, he puts together. So

1818
01:42:26,610 --> 01:42:30,480
they came out with their
building seven report, which of

1819
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:34,680
course, was laughable. But they
had to go a little bit further.

1820
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,200
And I think it was, it was
yesterday, there was saying that

1821
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:41,760
the reason why the steel melted
in the world in the first time

1822
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,580
in history, and they actually
say this is an unprecedented

1823
01:42:44,580 --> 01:42:46,980
event. This has never happened
before. It's amazing what

1824
01:42:46,980 --> 01:42:50,040
happened, John, you won't
believe it. The actual magnetic

1825
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:54,570
structure of the steel in these
buildings was somehow modified

1826
01:42:54,570 --> 01:42:57,450
probably due to age or something
else wrote and weather

1827
01:42:57,450 --> 01:43:02,070
conditions may vary. Again,
seriously, no, no, no, this is

1828
01:43:02,070 --> 01:43:04,110
coming from the government. No,
no, no, no, this come from the

1829
01:43:04,110 --> 01:43:07,620
government. Dude, listen to me.
This is not for me. This is the

1830
01:43:07,620 --> 01:43:11,160
ridiculous lengths they're going
to to cover this up by saying,

1831
01:43:12,210 --> 01:43:15,390
Well, normally of course jet
fuel doesn't burn hot enough to

1832
01:43:15,390 --> 01:43:18,570
melt steel. But these steel
beams something had happened

1833
01:43:18,570 --> 01:43:21,540
magnet This is the government
saying something happened to the

1834
01:43:21,540 --> 01:43:24,540
magnetically and they were
sufficiently weakened. So they

1835
01:43:24,540 --> 01:43:28,530
were able to start melting at
500 degrees. Is the government

1836
01:43:28,530 --> 01:43:29,490
now saying this?

1837
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:33,930
Now that's ridiculous. To new
Mercury alloy.

1838
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:37,920
It's ridiculous. It's frickin
stupid and it's insulting.

1839
01:43:41,250 --> 01:43:45,000
Well, I think that leaves us
hanging.

1840
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:48,270
Yeah. Anyway, your home your
homework, John, as you should

1841
01:43:48,270 --> 01:43:53,070
go. Look at Rosie O'Donnell's
weblog. You laugh. You laugh. I

1842
01:43:53,070 --> 01:43:55,890
know Rosie and I have known her
for a long time. Actually. I got

1843
01:43:55,890 --> 01:43:57,960
her her first gig on VH one,

1844
01:43:58,440 --> 01:44:00,960
give me the summation and I go
look at it.

1845
01:44:01,110 --> 01:44:06,090
She has a guy on whose name is
William Rodriguez. Wilmer gigas

1846
01:44:06,090 --> 01:44:09,510
was caretaker of I don't know
which Tower One of the two

1847
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:13,530
towers and his office was on
sublevel. One there were six

1848
01:44:13,530 --> 01:44:17,790
levels. So he was on the highest
level of the sub levels. And

1849
01:44:17,790 --> 01:44:21,660
before the plane hit the
building. There were multiple

1850
01:44:21,660 --> 01:44:23,550
explosions in the basement.

1851
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,490
Yeah, I know that this has been
documented by a bunch of people

1852
01:44:26,490 --> 01:44:28,200
that heard multiple explosions,
right?

1853
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,470
But it's not in the official
conspiracy theory known as the

1854
01:44:31,470 --> 01:44:35,760
911 report. That they they
interviewed him they didn't

1855
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:39,120
write anything. He gave him like
15 Other names to talk to one

1856
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:43,050
guy who was one level below him
who his job was to restock the

1857
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:46,530
vending machines. He all the
skin was burned off from the

1858
01:44:46,530 --> 01:44:49,350
explosion. He lived but he came
up actually, I don't know if he

1859
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:52,590
lived or not. But he came up
with a skin hanging off and

1860
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,730
there's tonnes and tonnes of
eyewitness accounts of this and

1861
01:44:56,730 --> 01:45:00,960
there's all this. It's all over
the place. It's On high double,

1862
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:06,600
you know, and that's okay. So
maybe that's my conspiracy, the

1863
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:09,810
alternative conspiracy theory,
but the 911 Commission Report,

1864
01:45:09,810 --> 01:45:11,910
which I have right here on my
bookcase doesn't mention

1865
01:45:11,940 --> 01:45:16,200
anything about that. Not not
even, you know the mention of

1866
01:45:16,230 --> 01:45:22,290
you know, some people thought
nothing I can I can hear you

1867
01:45:22,290 --> 01:45:24,750
sliding over to my side of the
fence. It's

1868
01:45:26,190 --> 01:45:29,730
what's interesting about this is
that if, let's assume that the

1869
01:45:29,730 --> 01:45:32,730
older truthers were right, and
this was a neuron, what's the

1870
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,310
wood they burnt down the
righteous dog, I think in

1871
01:45:35,310 --> 01:45:35,700
Germany,

1872
01:45:35,969 --> 01:45:38,669
he wants to call it Pearl
Harbour, the new Pearl Harbour.

1873
01:45:39,570 --> 01:45:42,390
So you get so he gets everybody
all jacked up on what, you know,

1874
01:45:42,390 --> 01:45:47,220
in one way or another. The thing
because it's such a ridiculous

1875
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:50,640
event, you know, to drop these
two buildings that are just in

1876
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,520
the middle of town, and they're
one of the biggest buildings in

1877
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:56,310
the world. And it took a lot of
effort and planning obviously,

1878
01:45:56,310 --> 01:46:01,560
to make this work if all if the
truthers are, right. It's, it's

1879
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:05,880
like, it's almost like saying,
Look, I wonder how outrageous we

1880
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:09,630
can get with the American public
to see how you know, before they

1881
01:46:09,630 --> 01:46:13,560
realise that they're just being
suckered left and right. It's

1882
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:17,070
just that you know, that
concept. It's somebody that a

1883
01:46:17,070 --> 01:46:21,390
group of people that say, you
know, whoever the foreign

1884
01:46:21,390 --> 01:46:24,450
relations crowd or whatever you
want to whatever they are the

1885
01:46:24,930 --> 01:46:25,740
Council of Foreign

1886
01:46:25,740 --> 01:46:29,130
Relations. Yes. You know, which
includes Obama, the Trilateral

1887
01:46:29,130 --> 01:46:30,120
Commission. Yes.

1888
01:46:30,150 --> 01:46:32,460
Yeah. All these crazy things I
remember read about this stuff

1889
01:46:32,460 --> 01:46:33,990
in the 60s. It's

1890
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:37,350
because that's what it started.
That's what was your duty, you

1891
01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:40,140
are on duty, John C. Dvorak, you
should have stopped that shit,

1892
01:46:40,140 --> 01:46:41,670
then you let it slide.

1893
01:46:43,590 --> 01:46:48,930
I was buffaloed. Anyway, so it's
just nice. Like, we gave me this

1894
01:46:48,930 --> 01:46:52,560
almost like a comedy act at this
level, if what you're saying is

1895
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,320
true, because it's almost like
saying, what that how dumb are

1896
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:58,560
these people? Let's, let's, you
know, do this. And let's do

1897
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,480
that. I mean, it's almost to the
point where you can almost

1898
01:47:00,540 --> 01:47:04,350
suspect Obama himself as part of
the whole grand scheme. Thank

1899
01:47:04,350 --> 01:47:08,130
you. Finally, it's like let's,
let's see if we can get a black

1900
01:47:08,130 --> 01:47:11,190
guy in. Oh, we can get a black
man elected president. I think

1901
01:47:11,190 --> 01:47:13,020
we can do that. Well, okay.
Well, let's change a little bit.

1902
01:47:13,020 --> 01:47:15,390
Let's make it black. It was a
ridiculous name.

1903
01:47:15,420 --> 01:47:19,110
Yes, exactly. And just to fuck
with everyone will make his

1904
01:47:19,110 --> 01:47:22,920
middle name Hussein. Just a mess
with everyone. John, you know

1905
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:27,120
what, I'm so happy to hear this.
You are finally seeing the light

1906
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:30,060
my brother you are waking up.
You're finally seeing what you

1907
01:47:30,060 --> 01:47:33,210
know what, you know why? They
absolutely thought and because

1908
01:47:33,210 --> 01:47:37,830
they had all the media in their
pocket. They have radio,

1909
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:41,880
newspapers, books, television,
primarily. They've you know,

1910
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,940
television is a hypnotic medium.
I've been in it long enough to

1911
01:47:44,940 --> 01:47:48,120
know how it works. You can
absolutely bullshit anything you

1912
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,580
want for any reason people will
buy it because it's on

1913
01:47:50,580 --> 01:47:53,670
television, they still think
it's true. But what they didn't

1914
01:47:53,670 --> 01:47:56,610
understand. And most of these
guys, you know, they might have

1915
01:47:56,610 --> 01:47:59,400
a Blackberry, which is simple
enough for them to understand

1916
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,310
what they do not understand the
internet, they do not they were

1917
01:48:02,310 --> 01:48:06,600
not a part of this taking place.
And this is what's happened. All

1918
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,630
of this collective knowledge.
Just look at Google, you type in

1919
01:48:09,780 --> 01:48:13,980
Rumsfeld plane shot down. And
within three seconds, I've got

1920
01:48:14,010 --> 01:48:17,070
you know, this video of him,
which is really not doctored

1921
01:48:17,070 --> 01:48:21,420
video of Rumsfeld talking about
the plane in Pennsylvania being

1922
01:48:21,420 --> 01:48:24,960
shot down this collective
information that we have at our

1923
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:28,620
fingertips, which is, of course
the next thing to go, you know,

1924
01:48:28,650 --> 01:48:31,590
they're now realising Oh, shit,
you know, more and more people

1925
01:48:31,590 --> 01:48:34,470
are jacking into this. And
they're starting to catch on.

1926
01:48:34,770 --> 01:48:37,410
And that's where they made the
mistake, because absolutely

1927
01:48:37,410 --> 01:48:41,340
zigzoo Brzezinski, who was
Obama's advisor on foreign

1928
01:48:41,700 --> 01:48:46,770
foreign affairs, read his book,
John read his book, his I'll

1929
01:48:46,770 --> 01:48:50,280
look at the title for a second.
It he outlines all of this

1930
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:56,280
stuff, all of it. And these guys
are huge on, on on on the

1931
01:48:56,280 --> 01:49:00,570
Georgia thing. Yes, it's
orchestrated. Absolutely. And I

1932
01:49:00,570 --> 01:49:02,880
totally believe they went out
and look for the Manchurian

1933
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:07,470
Candidate. Absolutely. Now they
play both sides of the fence

1934
01:49:07,470 --> 01:49:10,200
because they've also got McCain.
And it's the same people they

1935
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:11,400
don't give us You can't lose

1936
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,240
it by your theory. There's a no
lose situation, either one of

1937
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:17,400
these two guys gets in. Yes.
Yeah.

1938
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:21,480
Absolutely. If they win, no
matter what, and they're saying

1939
01:49:21,480 --> 01:49:24,810
the same things. You know, and
right now all this was so

1940
01:49:24,810 --> 01:49:27,660
beautiful, man, I talked about
this on a daily source code. So

1941
01:49:28,050 --> 01:49:32,760
huge and turn offs have been
spotted in Afghanistan. And

1942
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these are Ukrainian registered
and two nos, which of course, it

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means.

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Monster plans got like eight
engines and a million tires.

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Yeah. And that. So these are
coming from the Ukraine, the

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place that Vice President Dick
Cheney visited during the

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Republican National Convention
under the cover of all that

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hoopla. And they're unloading
tanks, John tanks. Now, let me

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ask you, because you are a man
of the world. What will you do

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with 10 tanks in Afghanistan. I
don't know nothing, because the

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Russians already proved that the
tanks are ineffective in that

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mountainous terrain. They're
unusable. However, the road to

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Iran is right there. And Iran is
completely perfect for tanks. So

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so this whole thing of all let's
move the troops out of Iraq,

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they gotta go to Afghanistan.
They're all going to

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Afghanistan, because that's the
ground force that's going to

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enter into Iran.

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Wow, that's a good one. I
haven't. I haven't heard that

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one. That's not bad. I like
that. So who says this? Is that

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your theory?

1961
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No, no, this is from, you know,
there's pictures. There's not

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mazes your theory about they're
moving to Afghanistan. I mean,

1963
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guys, I never thought of the two
step process where Obama wants

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to move all the troops to
Afghanistan. And so then you say

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so they both

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to Iran, they both do. They both
are? That's the whole that's

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this is how this is how

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they both do, but whose theory
is that we're moving stuff

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through Afghanistan, so we can
invade Iraq.

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I can't say I'm sure lots of
people have seen this because

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you open up Google Earth and you
look at the frickin geometry,

1972
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geography of it all. And you
say, Okay, I see where Georgia

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is. I see where Ukraine is. I
see where Afghanistan is. Oh,

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isn't that interesting? Now I
know the tanks don't work in the

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mountains. I know that. This is
well known.

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01:51:21,150 --> 01:51:23,640
All right. Okay. Okay. Now what?
So what's Brzezinski his book?

1977
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:24,840
I'll read it over the weekend.

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01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:32,460
You'll love this book. Hold on a
second. Presents ease book.

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Don't you just love this
collective? Here we go.

1980
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case book. Is Google. Do you
want to shut down this thing,

1981
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folks? Just shut down Google.

1982
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That's true. I'm really worried
about Google. I am very worried

1983
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about it. I'm worried about you
know who's in charge over there.

1984
01:51:53,790 --> 01:51:56,430
Let's be honest. Eric Schmidt
looks pretty scary.

1985
01:51:58,380 --> 01:52:00,780
Well, he was with Sun
Microsystems for a long time.

1986
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And there's a lot of connection
between Sun Microsystems and the

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agency.

1988
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:09,900
Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't
it? The grand chessboard is what

1989
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it's called America's primacy is
a premise here primacy. Famously

1990
01:52:16,350 --> 01:52:19,770
Mr. MC I think the best they can
get away with it.

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America's primacy and his geo
strategic imperatives read this

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01:52:23,820 --> 01:52:28,140
book. All right, read this book.
Everything that is happening now

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or is being proposed is
described in this book. Okay,

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how to get it and read it this
week. And this guy is in cahoots

1995
01:52:34,770 --> 01:52:37,920
with Soros that you know, so
this is where all this money is

1996
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coming from Obama's like a
billion dollar campaign at this

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point. is huge money huge. John,
I love it. Wow, love that sound.

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01:52:48,330 --> 01:52:51,030
I love that. I'm gonna let's
stop the show right here.

1999
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Because the sound of silence No,
no, it's not the sound of

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01:52:54,810 --> 01:52:57,510
silence. It's got me stumped
again ladies and gentlemen. It's

2001
01:52:57,510 --> 01:53:04,920
the sound of you actually going
hey, wait a minute. This crazy

2002
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:09,840
guy oh my goodness, there might
be something to all of this loss

2003
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more where that came from?

2004
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Yeah, remember no one's done a
lot of it next week. I'm

2005
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I'm open. And we didn't talk
about it. But I hope people are

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okay in Texas.

2007
01:53:20,190 --> 01:53:23,100
That storm is really a whopper
Yeah, that's massive. And of

2008
01:53:23,100 --> 01:53:28,140
course, it gets coverage but not
the same type of urgency. As

2009
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Gustaf got.

2010
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Now Gustaf got more because of
the new app nor New Orleans and

2011
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in fact, it was during a
convention that gave him an

2012
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:43,470
excuse to send Cheney to the
Ukraine, Ukraine. So the

2013
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interesting thing about this I
mean this thing is this storm

2014
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thing is like taking up the
whole Gulf of Mexico and it's

2015
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:51,120
kind of as it comes into it but
the thing that always gets me

2016
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about these storms is they you
go to CNN or any of these

2017
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stations and they got these guys
in the store and

2018
01:53:56,220 --> 01:53:59,160
Geraldo Rivera is Geraldo Rivera
is the funniest if you've seen

2019
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him like a piece of the pier
popped up and hit him in the leg

2020
01:54:04,740 --> 01:54:08,460
it was hilarious like yeah, this
is great. This is television

2021
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crazy Wow, this was one of my
I've never ended the show on

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such a high

2023
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Oh, good. I shouldn't get used
to it. I'm gonna go watch Cal

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hopefully beat Maryland.

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01:54:23,340 --> 01:54:27,030
All right, I'm gonna take my
daughter to walk on mama. Okay,

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are you familiar with Walker
Mama?

2027
01:54:29,370 --> 01:54:30,720
No, what is Walgett mama

2028
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it's like a fast food Chinese.
Vietnamese Thai place kinda

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don't have me here. It's a guy
that's an English outfit. They

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get like 50 of them or something
it's pretty big. All right one

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of these days you know we're
gonna have to actually do a show

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midweek because something
astronomic is gonna take place.

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Yeah, we do it so I can gloat to
see.

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Well, you haven't had many
opportunities. It's

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all right. It's coming to you
from Gitmo nation east. My name

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is Adam curry.

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And from getting mo nation West,
I'm John C. Dvorak.

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We will talk to you again next
week right here. No agenda