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kills shameless shameless
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Adam curry. John C. Dvorak

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may 13 2010 time here Gitmo
nation media assassination

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Episode One Niner Niner. This is
no agenda screw me. When did you

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do chainsaw? Let's do it

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again. All right. Ready? Yeah,
hit it.

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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.

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May 13 2010 Time for your gizmo
nation media assassination,

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episode one Niner Niner. This is
no agenda, partying like it's

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episode 199. And coming to you
from the hilltop Watchtower

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crackpot command centre and get
my nation West in the People's

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Republic of Southern California.
Yay. In the morning, I'm Adam

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curry

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where the sun is always shining,

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except when it's not. I'm John
C. Dvorak and buzzkill in the

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morning, in the morning to you
and to everyone listening into

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those at sea. Can you say that?
You used to be a common that for

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ships

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to people from all lands and
ships at sea. This is the is the

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BBC News to to do to do to
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by news this news over the last
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Well, I wonder if you if you
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bit of

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why would I mind that? I think
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So two episodes ago, I made a
bold prediction on this

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programme. Regarding the next
oil rig disaster. Do you recall

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my bold prediction John?

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No, but I'm guessing it would
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remember it personally.

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Well, no, it was the Caribbean.
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the Caribbean. Okay. And if you
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you would see that this
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which is now sunken into the
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Tobago and Trinidad Tobago. Now
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How did I know it? How did I
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This is you know, Chavez is now
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You know, I don't think that's
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think okay, I think it's
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been lured into the game because
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Okay. Oh, I'll take that.

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And the reason that he wants to
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essentially what Chavez gets to
do here, he says, Look, we had

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problems with our platform, too.
But nobody was killed. And note

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and zinc didn't catch on fire,
and we got to cut it off the

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flow. So nothing's leaking.
We're better than you are.

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Well, everyone gets a bene when
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mean, he's not just going to do
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So he gets to tell his people
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on a day, or what's it a weekly
TV show? You know, the Hugo

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It's kind of like no agenda only
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He probably has the right I'm
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than we do. But, but not as
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they wouldn't be watching it.

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Or they wouldn't be telling me
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strike, which of course was
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this up by myself, obviously.

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So anyway, the we just we should
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nice to get somebody to give us
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intro to the show where they,
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Chavez show in the morning. I
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Anyway, so this is part of the
album, gas company. So I haven't

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even had time to research them.
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Caribbean, because the whole
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spike the prices of oil and gas.
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that. I have a I have a really
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Somehow, some of this propaganda
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Well, let's before we get into
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Okay, we have more than one
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We have two we have two
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that we have over Random Number
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people that pretty much donated
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parts of the world this exact
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so we have Matthew Greene Smith
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Australia. He also says thanks
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read Matthew green Smith you
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green SMITH Yeah. And get this
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people put stuff in spreadsheets
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like spreadsheet was did kind of
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personal computer,

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I don't mind it revolutionising
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constantly send memos written on
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do I know that's got one the
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it was like, here's the list of
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that was all on a spreadsheet,
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that's a gripe to me. Because on
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In the morning, John and Adam,
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think your show comes the
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that will replace the Nothing to
see here that has taken over the

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the news we used to have my
donation is to support the

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continuation of that process.
Hope to see you and get mowed

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down under soon. Oh, and we have
a D word call out to Simon

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Alicia, who needs to recognise
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She for some reason, my
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So of course Matthew. Come in
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this the first of his three
instalments for no is nice.

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But it's $333.33 which is a good
number for us. And it's a lucky

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number for everybody and our
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Miller, who is now sir Adam
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he will be by the end of the
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for he's got a small window of
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just plain old Adam Miller at
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Perry Ville Missoura as well, so
gave us $333.33 into these are

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both within like, like 10
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this

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was get a kick out of that. This
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guys. Even though we don't have
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We do have a PR associate for
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first, let me mention a couple
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at the top of the show. We have
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there. It's not a cool domain
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it No agenda.status.net Of
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the show notes of no agenda
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have a master list someplace
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all of them are in the show
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Do we have the guy who did the I
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no. We have no agenda
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really list all of

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the okay, because we got the guy
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my floor mat actually said to I
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You think I'm you. I want my
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Francisco next week.

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I'll give you your floor mat.
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I'll have to bring an extra big
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it's not that I mean it's not a
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floor mat it's like you know
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as you'll see it it's perfect
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morning is quite nice and
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It's perfect for the kitchen
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does it come in multiple
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No it's black with the no agenda
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one of the many have no agenda
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Yeah. Hey, would you mind
Twitter tweeting twittering have

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you done already did Oh good.
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initiative actually installed
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Mosley. Adam and John I just got
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browser toolbar. Now normally I
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them I find them to be malware
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which I'm just gonna have to
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and so far everything's still
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easy embedded no agenda stream
player easy access to the no

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agenda chat room compilation of
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which is nice it's done in like
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so you can find all these sites
Twitter reader, which is full

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which follows no agenda, Adam
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and no agenda RSS feed embedded
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across Gitmo nation one click
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search bar customised no agenda
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its way, and a direct link to
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unimportant. So I think that's
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cool. Yeah, no agenda toolbar
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Don't you think that deserves an
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Well, you know, we only have one
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haven't even gotten there yet.
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commendation. I mentioned with
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way. Then I got to I can't
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people nominated you to be PR
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For your work on this week in
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people thought you did an
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you when Callie said in the
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was already funny. Yeah, it was
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that out. Yeah. When she said in
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again, now I'm now as I tell
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I'm going to send you this
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sending it to you because I
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effect of the surprise. You
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listen to the show is Pat Wilson
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email with him back and forth.
You remember this? Yeah,

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I'm waiting for the photo.

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Do you know I haven't sent it
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Weezer? Actually, John?

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No, I don't I don't listen to
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What do you listen to then?
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and bands don't perform that
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orchestras. Oh, okay. I don't
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I do have something handy. Hold
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of wheat. You'll say oh, yeah,
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I guess and the photo. I'm gonna
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photo. Here's one of their many
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Okay, well, there I am familiar

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with the Bear Bear. They're
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their big head. Right. Okay,
they have a big sound. Yeah,

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it's a good sound. I like the
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that. They are performing on the
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last night and he sent me a
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Donald Trump and I just want you
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wearing. Waiting for except John
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you go look at what they will be
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will freak out when they because
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watch on Monday but I wanted to
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PR associate for no agenda
episode one nine or nine or I'm

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waiting for your reaction. It's
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so we tell the audience what
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have Trump in the picture while
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the show notes. Because again, a
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watch the guys from Weezer. Yes,
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guitarist and the Trump and lead
singer in a bunny outfits with a

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crown or something. I don't know
what they're dressed in the

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morning sash. I mean, it
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no. Come on that there are
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That's right. Weezer the
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love it. All right. So we want
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looking like what he's totally
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you what is this? Why am I here?
I hear craziest picture because

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it makes Trump sort of just
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All right, we want to thank
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Miller for being our associate
our executive producers for

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episode 199. You know the drill
by now you can put it on your

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resume, you can put it in your
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able to get some IMDb credit,
but definitely it is known in

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Hollywood circles to be a crime
added that means something value

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for value. So please let us know
and let everyone know what the

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formula is. Our formula is this
we go out for yet people in the

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mouth

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Okay, Weezer's sick long sleeve
chat rooms going nuts, they want

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to see it, but

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you want to send it to him.
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can't send it to the chat

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or I can put it on a link
somewhere in the eye net. Don't

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get

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don't get her on the show. Wait
until the show notes come out.

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Let's get right to a topic of
interest. I don't want to talk

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about anything but this right
now. Okay. You spent like I

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don't know. What were you
complaining about how much money

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it takes to send stuff over and
apparently you got my shit right

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box crap and it cost 80 bucks.
No,

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hold on a second. No, Mickey.
Mickey Mickey had her stuff

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coming from Amsterdam. She had
to pay 1800 my shit comes in

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from London. I paid 85

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Right so somebody's scamming
somebody. Yeah,

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and my boxes weren't opened I
know that because my LMG 99

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Japanese Light Machine Gun
arrived fine my double barrel

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shotgun arrived fine. My ammo
for the shotgun arrived fine. So

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they didn't sway me you're
smuggling arms? Yes, absolutely.

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I'm proud of it.

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And nobody cares. This is why

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I have a Japanese machine gun in
my boxes and it's marked

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labelled guitar just like the
oldest trick in the book as soon

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as she puts cello Yeah. And I
paid 85 bucks and they didn't

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open a single box but oh yes
custom scan it for you for your

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convenience sir

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well I'm sure they scan is a way
to this let's go over this. So

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give some background of the
people out there you had moved

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your stuff from London and
Mickey who you're now living

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with moved her stuff from
Holland and there seems to be a

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discrepancy in the way both
systems were handled in other

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words the London stuff came in

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both both systems were handled
the same way the rule State

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Department of Homeland Security
is by law outsourcing the

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unloading and preparation for
scanning of all goods shipped

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into the United States. Okay, so
they have a hole and these are

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published prices these prices
republished in 2005 it cost more

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for garments apparently cost
nothing for boxes containing

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weapons machine

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guns shooting

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guns. And yes, you wind up
paying 8500 bucks. That's a was

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it at 1800 and I paid 85 bucks
and minus 85

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bucks. Why was her so expensive
with the book? Was her box 1000

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times bigger? No,

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no she her box she had for four
times as much stuff. So in

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calculations scenario about you
know, should be a little harder

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but

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at the wild is calculation let's
say it was 1000 because she had

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a lot of clothes but you know
how hard is it to check clothes?

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I mean, what do you make put
1000s of kilos of heroin and

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clothes. Hey, honey, your bra
seem pretty puffy. So yeah. How

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can how can you how come you
only want to talk about this?

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Are you on some kind of thing or

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no I thought that you were
complaining bitterly about what

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a scam this was going to be and
you knew you're gonna get ripped

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off by the time you're stuck
gaming you're worried sick?

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Well this shows you how big the
scam actually is. I think I

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think coming in at such a low
number shows that this man

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knows charging this I mean it's
it is it has something to do

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with that thing coming from
Amsterdam versus London. No,

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because and where does the bill
come from? Is it American

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companies?

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Yes. We mentioned that last time
there's no there's only one

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company in Los Angeles.

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That's what I'm getting at is
why was your so cheap? I don't

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know.

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You asked the shipping company
like look we can't really

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explain it to you. This is the
bill they give us and that's we

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have to live by that

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it must be one of those things
where they're just ripping off

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the women you know like the car
repair places. A lady or

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Fraggles broken it looks like
you're gonna need a new one a

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new belt.

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It could be but it's it's the
truth. And I just find it funny

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that I'm that I that I have a
Japanese machine gun in there.

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And and I have ammo

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The ammo is particularly
disturbing. I don't

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have ammo for the machine gun.
I'm still looking for a

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magazine. And I think it's the
7.7 millimetre ammo. I'm sure

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someone out there can help me

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sure it's like five bucks a
bullet. So anyway. No, I

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understood that the thing came
in with a summary just it looked

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like it was just a mess. It
wasn't very well organised in

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the box.

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No, that was a different
problem. It was. It was packed

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in London at my ex wife's house.
And I think that here's here's

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how they did it. Hey, that's a
shit throw that in that box.

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Seriously, it's not the way it
works. This stuff arrived pretty

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mashed. It's not, it's not. But
the machine gun is safe.

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Probably the most rugged thing
you got. What about your audio

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gear? Yes, all

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of its here. And this weekend,
I'll be setting it up. I have

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some plug conversions to do.
Because, you know, they're all

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they all have the UK those crazy
UK plugs which are bigger than

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my head. Yeah, that's crazy. You
click caves like UK plugs have

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three big prongs. And there's
already a fuse and a switch plug

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and a switch. Yes.

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You know what, I don't want
people getting killed. I

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travelled to 20 which you know,
a lot of people don't realise

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and you have to be careful with
around 220 It's unlike 110 With

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110 you get a jolt knocked on
your butt with 220 just drops

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Yeah, you're dead.

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I've always wondered why. Why we
have 110. And

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for safety reasons. We the
United States early on decided

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that it was better to have one
king because it was safer,

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really. And it would kill less
people. And because we have

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liability issues in the United
States. We're a legal country

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that shoes does a lot of
lawsuits. The Europeans don't

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give a crap. So they basically
said you know they get kills

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himself. He's an idiot. So
that's why they just summarise

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does an idiot is an idiot. So,
to destroy the Arcana nanny

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state and their kind of nanny
state,

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hey, do you have a pet peeve
today because I got some for

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you.

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I probably do. But you know
these things kind of come up a

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pot. Take the gig. They sneak up
on me. All right, if

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it happens, I'll be on the
ready. Okay, I got a lot of

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stuff to talk about, but maybe I
should let you go first.

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of all, thanks. I don't have the
whole I can get it real quick.

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Like Rajiv, Guru Baba and big
Brahma in the morning. That's a

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good one.

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Yeah, that's good. And that's
from The Simpsons. They're on

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board with the programme.

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People send me the craziest
stuff.

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Well, good. Keep sending him
stuff. Keep them busy. So let's

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talk about what we can talk.
Well, let's hear it. Let's run a

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humorous clip. Betty White it
says Betty wife on Saturday

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night. This is what was the big
talk of everything last

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Saturday.

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Yeah. Wait a minute. Why don't
we I think I think this

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qualifies.

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And the reason is the reason
everybody has all worked up,

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wrestled young woman, you get
that fish out of my parlour?

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What is gotten into you? She's a
lesbian.

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All right. Which brings us to

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Yes, this is very this is a very
interesting story. And it has it

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has people talk and really I
haven't I have the links,

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including the one you sent
listed under the Ministry of

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Truth. Well, here's

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what's interesting to me. Now
we're gonna we're talking about

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the Supreme Court nominee, who
was the elephant in the room.

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When she was first pun intended.
When she was first nominated.

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Nobody seemed to want to discuss
the fact that she in fact, when

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we mentioned her on this last
show, I had a number of Skype

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messages say just that all the
word was just lesbian. What can

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I just say one thing that we
mentioned her on the two shows

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ago, and I said, Hey, the White
House has just announced that

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they don't think there's any
problem with her being a shill

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for Goldman Sachs, that that to
me is a little more important as

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to as to whether she's gay or
not.

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I agree. But what I found
interesting is that they didn't

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want to talk about her being gay
even though now they say oh,

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that's all we talked about.
Which is bogus because I have I

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watched show I hate doing this,
but I watch show after show

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after show I watched right after
a nomination right after they

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started getting into it. First,
I watched Overman then I watched

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Matthews and then I watched
who's the guys there's a couple

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more of these on the other on
the Fox I watched O'Reilly I put

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these on the DVR so I could run
through All of them oh right no

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rush I didn't see back but you
know I didn't miss anything I

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really but but then I said well
they're all ignoring the

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elephant in the room and I can
talk about the fact that she's

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she appears to be gay we don't
know if she is or not but she

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just carries herself like a gay
woman and one of the shows

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showed pictures of when she was
a college kid she was actually a

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cute little Jewish girl that was
actually very pretty in a you

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know in a cute little Jewish go
away, but I can see her having

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boyfriends but she is probably
she I get the sense that she's

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asexual more than anything

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before before you continue
political reported two days ago

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that all of her friends now of
course they go they're not going

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by name, which I love this great
reporting, are all sending

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messages saying Hey, she's not
gay. She dated guys in college,

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right? And even Eliot Spitzer.
Eliot Spitzer, that's the guy

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who has $5,000 Night hookers.
Yeah, he's my hero. So he's the

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guy that would know, he says, I
did not go out with her, but

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other guys did.

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Yeah. Well, Spitzer is actually
an interesting character. But

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anyway, so I get the sense that
she's probably not not gay, but

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she's not asexual, she's you
know, workaholic. And she's kind

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of given up you know, because it
doesn't look like a person who's

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like, preoccupied with their
looks, let's put it that way.

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But meanwhile, but there's still
the issue exists and there's

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good reasons for it. And I think
Andrew Sullivan discussed this

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the best he went on about you
know, and who is openly gay and

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he says, you know, this we you
know, do Obama wants everybody

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to be open and honest and do all
this kind of thing and then now

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it nobody wants to talk about
this gay thing. And he says it's

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important from a from a lot of
different perspectives I mean,

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look what they did to Clarence
Thomas, when they you know, the

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code can thing was

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up care who can verify me that
that that horrible woman that

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hill? Yeah, Anita Hill. So
anyway,

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long Dong, silver,

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long Dong silver, you remember
all?

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That was awesome.

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So I figure of all people, the
person that would most likely to

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bring this up and I was waiting
for my hero to come to the

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rescue. Rachel Maddow, oh, boy,
she says nothing. And instead we

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hear this. This ridiculous.
Let's see, where is it? I got it

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on the clips. I must know it's
not enough.

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Of the elephant in the room.
Yeah, that's

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okay. We'll just play a little
Rachel. By the way, Rachel comes

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to her defence without ever
without ever saying why she's

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coming to her defence. And she
put in let me set up one little

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thing. One of the Republicans
starts off this little clip by

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saying, Well, the problem with
this woman is she's got no

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judicial experience. And she's
got no litigate litigation

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experience, which is true,
right? She has she's, she's

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basically a bureaucrat, and
Rachel comes out and she twisted

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by saying, well now the
Republicans are saying she's had

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no judicial experience. And
here's other people that have

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never had judicial and she goes
on um, but she's, she's very

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specious with her argument.
She's like cheats. She doesn't

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say anything about the no
litigious experience either.

453
00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:18,690
Rachel is she is as a host. And
the way they talked about back

454
00:28:18,690 --> 00:28:23,040
in and Limbaugh lying a lot.
This woman is really probably

455
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,070
the worst of the group because
she just leaves stuff out in her

456
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:26,820
arguments.

457
00:28:27,630 --> 00:28:30,270
It strikes me that if a nominee
does not have judicial

458
00:28:30,270 --> 00:28:33,420
experience, they shouldn't have
substantial litigation

459
00:28:33,420 --> 00:28:36,690
experience. Ms. Kagan has
neither

460
00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:39,840
Senate Republicans pouncing
today and the fact that Elena

461
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,530
Kagan has never served as a
judge. The last time someone who

462
00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:47,190
wasn't a judge was nominated to
be a Supreme Court justice was

463
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:50,130
in 2005 when President Bush
nominated White House Council

464
00:28:50,130 --> 00:28:53,490
Harriet Miers to fill the seat
of Justice Sandra Day O'Connor

465
00:28:53,490 --> 00:28:58,710
that nomination lasted all of 25
days. Whereupon Mr. Bush was

466
00:28:58,710 --> 00:29:02,280
forced to withdraw his pick for
lack of political support. The

467
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,700
relevant comparison between
Harriet Miers and Elena Kagan is

468
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:08,550
not actually about judicial
policy questions about whether

469
00:29:08,550 --> 00:29:12,330
Elena Kagan is qualified for the
Supreme Court. Harriet Miers had

470
00:29:12,330 --> 00:29:15,030
essentially been George Bush's
lawyer, and she'd been White

471
00:29:15,030 --> 00:29:18,180
House Counsel for a hot minute
and that's it. Elena Kagan, on

472
00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:20,400
the other hand, is the current
Solicitor General of the United

473
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,010
States. That's the person who
argues the government's cases in

474
00:29:23,010 --> 00:29:25,890
front of the support. She is the
former dean of Harvard Law

475
00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:29,340
School. She is a former clerk to
the Supreme Court. She has a

476
00:29:29,340 --> 00:29:32,910
nationwide coast to coast
Sterling legal reputation she

477
00:29:32,910 --> 00:29:36,000
has been a longtime mainstay of
Supreme Court speculation.

478
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,270
Okay, you can I just tell you
that I find it very important

479
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:47,490
that my supreme because they're
mine, as well, my Supreme Court

480
00:29:47,490 --> 00:29:51,570
justices must have courtroom
experience, litigation

481
00:29:51,570 --> 00:29:54,750
experience and lesbian
experience. I think that's

482
00:29:55,410 --> 00:29:58,830
really having a lot of problems
with all those guys. Now, let's

483
00:29:59,010 --> 00:30:01,410
let me get go. break down a
couple of things. She says in

484
00:30:01,410 --> 00:30:03,930
her first she brings up the
Harriet Miers argument, which is

485
00:30:03,930 --> 00:30:09,330
a completely off topic. Wait,
wait. very embarrassing. He was

486
00:30:09,330 --> 00:30:12,780
didn't pick her because she was
his lawyer for a hot minute. By

487
00:30:12,780 --> 00:30:13,200
the way.

488
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,860
Obama Obama is Obama's personal
lawyers now defending all kinds

489
00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:20,700
of stuff inside the

490
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:22,830
administration when I'm not
talking about that. It's the

491
00:30:22,830 --> 00:30:25,650
fact that she says a hot minute
meaning that she just showed up

492
00:30:25,770 --> 00:30:28,560
and who But meanwhile, Kagan is
only meant Solicitor General

493
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,860
sensitive does less than two
years and to the Imbaba. Same

494
00:30:31,860 --> 00:30:36,210
thing, but that's besides but
she but she completely ignores

495
00:30:36,210 --> 00:30:38,580
the fact that the reason Harriet
Miers was dropped is because the

496
00:30:38,580 --> 00:30:42,120
Conservatives got bent out of
shape about not about

497
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,150
qualifications or anything in
between, but it was about out

498
00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:48,600
and out cronyism, which, of
course, she could have made a

499
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,500
point about cronyism, because,
you know, Matt out, you know,

500
00:30:52,530 --> 00:30:55,410
there's always looking to just
still score points against

501
00:30:55,410 --> 00:30:56,280
George Bush.

502
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:59,490
Yeah. Like, there's no cronyism
in the administration.

503
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,010
He completely ignores and keeps
going. And now she's just

504
00:31:02,010 --> 00:31:05,790
pounding the drum for this woman
who I believe she thinks is a

505
00:31:05,790 --> 00:31:08,640
lesbian, and she probably thinks
it's a good idea to get her in

506
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:08,880
there.

507
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,110
Yeah. No, I think that something
else is going on, John. Oh, look

508
00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:17,640
over here. Nothing to see. Look
at that. The things that I see

509
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,630
one is that she worked for
Goldman Sachs receive money from

510
00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:24,690
them, which I never mentioned.
No, of course not. This is why

511
00:31:24,690 --> 00:31:28,020
if nothing to see here, I'm
talking about lesbianism. The

512
00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:35,370
other one. And this is currently
I believe in court. Monsanto was

513
00:31:35,370 --> 00:31:39,090
trying to overturn a 2007
California decision that imposed

514
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,300
a nationwide injunction on
planting the company's

515
00:31:42,330 --> 00:31:47,010
genetically modified alfalfa. In
March Kagan's office that

516
00:31:47,010 --> 00:31:51,120
Solicitor General interceded on
Monsanto's behalf.

517
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:53,339
Oh, you got me on that one? Good
one.

518
00:31:53,370 --> 00:31:54,840
No, of course, of course, you

519
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,380
know, I you know, the way to
wish for anybody who wants to,

520
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,230
like do what we do on the show
deconstruct these news stories.

521
00:32:01,740 --> 00:32:04,560
It's, you know, the one of the
tricks you can use as you put

522
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,000
in, I didn't do this, I should
have Kagan, Monsanto, Hagen,

523
00:32:09,030 --> 00:32:12,780
goldsack, wherever it is, you
know, wherever you want. Just

524
00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:16,620
start with those. Monsanto,
Goldman Sachs just put Goldman

525
00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:18,360
Sachs in vanilla and put the
person's name.

526
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,040
I do that all the time else. I
also add United Nations and

527
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,640
Council on Foreign Relations.
Those, those are the four and

528
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,360
you've, there's your show prep.
There you go. You're done. It's,

529
00:32:31,020 --> 00:32:38,100
I'm trying to do this without
cheating. Cheating. It's totally

530
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:41,880
cheating. It's not cheating. But
you know, the funny thing is, is

531
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,820
that this stuff goes on. And it
never comes up in the

532
00:32:44,820 --> 00:32:47,340
conversation. In fact, the
Kurt's article I sent you, which

533
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:50,670
is linked in the show notes,
otherwise post, it's just goes

534
00:32:50,670 --> 00:32:53,280
on about, you know, quoting and
all the different people, they

535
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,240
made up their huge smokescreen,
about this lesbian thing, which

536
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,880
seems to be off topic when it
comes down to what's really

537
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,450
important, which is She's a
shill for Monsanto and Goldman

538
00:33:03,450 --> 00:33:09,030
Sachs. Yeah. I won't even be I
would challenge anyone to find

539
00:33:09,030 --> 00:33:13,320
me a clip from C span when they
start grilling her dad even

540
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,760
comes up on the conversation.
You know, it's

541
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,460
funny you say that about C span?
Because well, first of all, I

542
00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:20,880
hate it when the pro programming
executives put all the primetime

543
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,820
shows on at the same time. So of
course, you know, you and I both

544
00:33:23,820 --> 00:33:27,150
know that everything happens in
Washington is one big show it

545
00:33:27,150 --> 00:33:30,690
show business for Ugly people.
And so I didn't know what we

546
00:33:30,690 --> 00:33:33,900
have C span one, two, and three.
I don't know whether to watch

547
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:38,010
the financial hearings about the
flash crash about all the oil

548
00:33:38,010 --> 00:33:42,690
executives that are blaming each
other. Or, or Kagan. I mean, I'm

549
00:33:42,690 --> 00:33:46,140
confused. I, there's I don't I
can't do that enough. Not enough

550
00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:49,350
Adam to watch everything. And I
didn't record the clip. And I'm

551
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:53,490
sorry, I didn't see span is now
editorialising. And it's

552
00:33:53,490 --> 00:33:56,880
starting to piss me off. So
first of all, why do I need to

553
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:03,000
have C span to all day with, you
know, with BP, BP, Halliburton,

554
00:34:03,330 --> 00:34:06,630
and Transocean executives,
because all you see is a bunch

555
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:09,420
of politicians who are all
experts, and they're all talking

556
00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:13,290
about the blowout prevention and
the deadman switch was shut up.

557
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:16,680
You don't do an investigation.
Don't take up my time with that.

558
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,950
But then you get the you know,
the woman who comes on sometimes

559
00:34:19,950 --> 00:34:22,110
the guy but it's been a woman
for the past couple of weeks,

560
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:26,610
and says now we'll go to the
Senate to hearing about the oil,

561
00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:30,990
the oil crisis in the Gulf. This
programme lasts about three

562
00:34:30,990 --> 00:34:31,590
hours.

563
00:34:31,860 --> 00:34:35,730
Right? So they know they always
give you the estimated time

564
00:34:35,730 --> 00:34:39,960
but now she's editorialising.
And it went something like this.

565
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,550
We now switch over to the Senate
hearings about the Gulf. The oil

566
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:48,660
spill in the Gulf where where
oil executives are pointing the

567
00:34:48,660 --> 00:34:51,480
finger at each other. This
programme lasts about three

568
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:56,130
hours. Yeah. And I didn't record
it. It's one of those I can't

569
00:34:56,130 --> 00:34:59,190
get it on the C span archives
which are outstanding but you

570
00:34:59,190 --> 00:35:00,480
can't get it because That's the
Edit

571
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:03,540
interstitial announcement.

572
00:35:03,570 --> 00:35:06,330
So why is she telling me that
they were pointing the fingers

573
00:35:06,330 --> 00:35:09,990
at each other? You know? Oops,
we got a problem here,

574
00:35:09,989 --> 00:35:14,279
John. Yes, you're on your side.
Yeah. You have a loose

575
00:35:14,279 --> 00:35:19,529
connection. Maybe your battery's
dead. To check the two. That

576
00:35:19,529 --> 00:35:27,569
sounds like a dead dead battery
on your mic belts. Oh, boy. was

577
00:35:27,569 --> 00:35:29,849
some just start to every plug
everything in your head.

578
00:35:30,270 --> 00:35:39,360
That's super simple. It's not
that fail. Just kernel panic.

579
00:35:40,410 --> 00:35:44,040
everything crashed hard. And of
course, when that happens, then

580
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:49,650
the configurations get blown
out. And I can't. were we just

581
00:35:49,650 --> 00:35:51,690
talking about my new studio,
John?

582
00:35:53,130 --> 00:35:56,400
No, actually, we're talking
about Goldman Sachs, Kagan and

583
00:35:56,430 --> 00:35:59,310
Monsanto. We did talk about it
earlier.

584
00:36:00,570 --> 00:36:08,160
Anyway, I'm, I'm happy. Yeah.
Hold on a second. We'll just

585
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,830
check that that's all recording.

586
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,560
You're hearing all that right
now? Yeah. Sounds good.

587
00:36:16,619 --> 00:36:20,579
Okay. We'll check this in the
morning.

588
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:34,919
So are we just broke? So once
you explained what happened, and

589
00:36:34,919 --> 00:36:39,659
then I can do an I told you so
and then we can get back to the

590
00:36:40,019 --> 00:36:40,889
show.

591
00:36:43,110 --> 00:36:48,180
Okay, what happened was, we were
talking. And then all of a

592
00:36:48,180 --> 00:36:52,350
sudden, I got a kernel panic. I
could hear here. That's when you

593
00:36:52,530 --> 00:36:56,730
that's the Mac equivalent of
blue screen of death. And

594
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,410
everything started to freeze. I
couldn't unfreeze it. I tried to

595
00:37:01,410 --> 00:37:06,690
dump out of the Ableton Live so
that I could save because it's a

596
00:37:06,690 --> 00:37:09,840
it should be saving directly to
hard disk. But whatever happened

597
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,100
in this instance, it it didn't
leave anything. And

598
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,710
so I had to reboot. We did a
half a show. 40 minutes of the

599
00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:21,900
show. And we did 30 minutes. We
were 39 It was 40. Really? Yeah,

600
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,170
you sure? Yeah. Cuz I made a
note of the time so I can we can

601
00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:27,000
calculate when we're going to do
some other things.

602
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:32,820
Okay, so we have 20 left for
this half. Okay. So anyway, the

603
00:37:32,820 --> 00:37:37,680
good news is, I think nerdy dude
recorded the stream. Note his

604
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:44,580
moniker, nerdy dude, our hero.
Yes. And so that's already being

605
00:37:44,610 --> 00:37:48,420
uploaded to a server. So I can
stitch it all together for the

606
00:37:48,450 --> 00:37:50,040
podcast, which most of the
people,

607
00:37:50,190 --> 00:37:53,640
although you stream it 32k, or
some sort of, no, no,

608
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,660
no, no, no, we're streaming at
64. We've upped everything. And

609
00:37:57,660 --> 00:38:00,750
we and and in case you hadn't
noticed the quality of the show

610
00:38:00,750 --> 00:38:03,840
is now at 96. These days, I've
got no complaints.

611
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,060
Yeah, well, it's a better
sounding show at 96. Obviously,

612
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,430
yeah. So okay, well, then we
would do have the first half of

613
00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:13,830
the show, so we don't have to
worry about that. Good. And

614
00:38:14,340 --> 00:38:17,100
although we knew this was, you
know, we knew we know that a

615
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:20,670
number of people recall backup
to show for us in the cloud.

616
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:23,730
Yes. Our version of the cloud,
which are individuals sitting in

617
00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:26,970
their rooms, here in there
around the country.

618
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,430
Hopefully, they're joining the
show, and hopefully they're at

619
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:29,970
work.

620
00:38:30,869 --> 00:38:34,649
Yeah, I know, your theory should
be at work recording. Yeah.

621
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:40,170
You should be doing that. Okay.
All right. So all right. We are

622
00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:43,050
so we I guess we were talking
about Kagan and we kind of

623
00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:44,820
wrapped up that topic on Kagan.

624
00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:47,850
I think so. Yeah. I think you
mentioned the fact that, you

625
00:38:47,850 --> 00:38:54,480
know, we're on at least we, we
mentioned the fact that, you

626
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,410
know, if people just you know,
Google people's names with the

627
00:38:58,410 --> 00:39:02,250
words, either Monsanto or
Goldman Sachs, you find out that

628
00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:03,270
they're all connected

629
00:39:04,380 --> 00:39:06,900
to what it was. We were talking
about that and then all sudden,

630
00:39:06,900 --> 00:39:09,960
boom, they shoot a magic bullet
through the line and they nuke

631
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:10,680
my system.

632
00:39:11,580 --> 00:39:16,680
Yeah, that's what they did. So
but the point is, is that, you

633
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,740
know, this is another example he
had now we have, essentially the

634
00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:23,940
East Coast elitist, it's almost
I don't think there's anybody

635
00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:27,450
not in the ivory Ivy League that
is on the court, so nobody

636
00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:31,380
represents the public. And to
make matters worse, they're all

637
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:37,050
stooges for Monsanto. This will
come up in the conversation, and

638
00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:40,770
when there's a court case, and
they judges all, you know, find

639
00:39:40,770 --> 00:39:41,670
for the

640
00:39:42,210 --> 00:39:46,170
big corporation. So why don't we
do something a little, little

641
00:39:46,170 --> 00:39:50,250
light just to get back into the
swing of light? Yeah, something

642
00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:54,870
light. I have some clips from a
television show, which are

643
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:57,780
propagating an agenda, an old
one and a new one.

644
00:39:58,170 --> 00:39:59,640
I'm listening. Okay,

645
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:01,889
so you're familiar with the
programme supernatural?

646
00:40:02,939 --> 00:40:07,079
I don't know. I may have watched
it once. I think it's a it's a

647
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:11,339
crappy show. So yeah, I guess I
do. I'm familiar somewhat.

648
00:40:11,429 --> 00:40:15,239
Okay. So first of all, they they
like to propagate some memes so

649
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,629
let's make sure we get them in
there. Can we commit our act of

650
00:40:18,659 --> 00:40:23,309
domestic terrorism already?
Let's go. And so what is that

651
00:40:23,309 --> 00:40:25,919
act of domestic terrorism? Well,
we're gonna throw a couple of

652
00:40:25,919 --> 00:40:28,979
memes at you and listen very
closely because this is

653
00:40:28,979 --> 00:40:31,439
something you're going to be
hearing a lot more about

654
00:40:31,439 --> 00:40:31,739
something

655
00:40:31,740 --> 00:40:32,400
you need to say.

656
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:43,260
nevus pharmaceuticals rushing
delivery of its new swine flu

657
00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:47,670
vaccine to quote stem the tide
of the unprecedented outbreak.

658
00:40:49,410 --> 00:40:53,220
Shipments Lee Wednesday, Navy's
pharmaceuticals get it?

659
00:40:58,050 --> 00:41:01,770
You too are lucky Have you
looked at your demon lover

660
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,330
Brady? The VP of distribution
devious.

661
00:41:07,739 --> 00:41:12,419
Ah, yes, that sound of the
abacus cracking. You're caught

662
00:41:12,419 --> 00:41:16,499
up. So pestilence was spreading
swine flu. Evernote just for

663
00:41:16,499 --> 00:41:19,559
giggles that was step one. Step
two is the vaccine and you think

664
00:41:19,590 --> 00:41:23,250
I know. I'll stake my
reputation. That vaccine is

665
00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:30,510
chock full of great a farm fresh
Crotone virus simultaneous

666
00:41:30,510 --> 00:41:36,000
countrywide distribution. You
don't get to be horsemen for

667
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:42,300
nothing. So you've always been
stuck up on everything.

668
00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:47,880
This time next Thursday. We'll
be living in zombie land. Okay,

669
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,850
so you didn't see the show? So
the premise

670
00:41:50,909 --> 00:41:55,379
before you say anything more?
You watch this crap?

671
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:01,770
No, someone sent it to me. Okay.
The premise is swine flu

672
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,680
vaccine. But this vaccine turns
everyone into zombies. And just

673
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,640
look around at the slate of
television shows and movies that

674
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,340
are coming out. It's all
zombies. John.

675
00:42:14,910 --> 00:42:17,460
The zombie craze is over. No,
no, no, no,

676
00:42:17,460 --> 00:42:20,580
no, it's getting it's gonna get
a lot worse. Look at all the

677
00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:27,300
upfronts we're gonna see a lot
of zombie stuff. And I always

678
00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:29,850
feel with some of this
mainstream media stuff that kind

679
00:42:29,850 --> 00:42:34,950
of like, giving us little
message like, Hey, you're gonna

680
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:40,620
be turned into zombies. You
watch. It's a new meme zombies.

681
00:42:40,650 --> 00:42:43,140
It's much better. It's gonna be
much bigger than it was.

682
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:49,920
Yeah, okay, I'm not buying it.
Okay, that's the reason why is

683
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,810
because the zombie thing has
come and gone.

684
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:56,189
Well, I may be a little bit more
in the media than you.

685
00:42:57,180 --> 00:42:58,410
Do, you might be wrong.

686
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,820
Speaking of being wrong. We
talked about the flash crash.

687
00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:08,730
past couple of shows and a lot
of people have been doing

688
00:43:08,730 --> 00:43:11,850
research sending in stuff, some
anonymous including this next

689
00:43:11,850 --> 00:43:18,510
message. We talked about the
Russian programmer who would be

690
00:43:18,510 --> 00:43:24,090
related to Sergej Eleni cough,
that's the the guy who took the

691
00:43:24,090 --> 00:43:28,680
code and got arrested at Newark
Airport. And and went to

692
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,830
Chicago. This of course, is my
theory entirely, but based upon

693
00:43:31,830 --> 00:43:36,210
conversations with insiders, and
I took that code into the

694
00:43:36,210 --> 00:43:40,410
computer room compiled it, ran
it for a couple seconds seconds

695
00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:44,310
brought down the entire market,
down 2000 points and was just a

696
00:43:44,310 --> 00:43:48,660
little beta test. And you said
well, you know, it's like this

697
00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:50,970
doing this you got to compile
the code. I just want to give

698
00:43:50,970 --> 00:43:55,980
you a little bit of extra info.
The language that these guys

699
00:43:55,980 --> 00:43:59,130
programme this stuff in is Earl
Lang. Are you familiar with

700
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:04,860
Erling? No? Okay. erlang.org and
I'm reading verbatim from an

701
00:44:04,860 --> 00:44:08,220
email from an anonymous donor of
information. Erling has many

702
00:44:08,220 --> 00:44:10,890
properties that make it an
excellent choice for building

703
00:44:10,890 --> 00:44:14,400
highly concurrent servers, one
of which is the ability to

704
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,620
recompile and reload code while
it is operating. Under certain

705
00:44:19,620 --> 00:44:24,030
circumstances, the Erlang VM
will even execute both old and

706
00:44:24,030 --> 00:44:29,580
new code revisions of a code
base simultaneously. So very

707
00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:32,130
plausible, the new code was
loaded even while trades were

708
00:44:32,130 --> 00:44:38,280
being processed. I couldn't
believe that, so I'm really

709
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,450
sticking with this. So that's

710
00:44:39,449 --> 00:44:42,509
running with a run a virtual
machine. So you can probably

711
00:44:43,619 --> 00:44:46,469
maybe be very powerful. I'll
look into the Erlang language.

712
00:44:46,499 --> 00:44:46,709
Yeah,

713
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:49,590
I had never heard of it before.
But erling.org has a

714
00:44:49,590 --> 00:44:52,500
lot of these really weird little
languages that are specialty

715
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:56,340
languages use for one thing or
another. I'm not I'm wasn't

716
00:44:56,340 --> 00:44:59,580
arguing with the fact that I
think something was was I

717
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,000
totally In on the concept that
somebody ran some beta code,

718
00:45:03,150 --> 00:45:06,900
just to see what would happen,
and then and then rocketed away

719
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:09,810
saying, oops. And I don't know
if they meant to crash the

720
00:45:09,810 --> 00:45:13,080
market. I'm sure they I think it
may have been just was a test

721
00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:16,650
and what would happen and what's
gonna happen? Yeah. Let's run

722
00:45:16,650 --> 00:45:21,930
this virus see what it does? I
will say that the SEC is

723
00:45:21,930 --> 00:45:26,580
extremely disappointing in, you
know, so the first of all,

724
00:45:26,580 --> 00:45:28,260
what's her name the SEC chief,

725
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,230
the one that used to be with the
other agency that she moved over

726
00:45:31,230 --> 00:45:34,380
to the SEC, they're the one that
ignored Matt Madoff and they

727
00:45:34,410 --> 00:45:36,750
played with that one,

728
00:45:37,050 --> 00:45:41,730
Mary Shapiro that one. So she
calls all of the exchange chiefs

729
00:45:41,730 --> 00:45:45,120
to Washington and you know, so
without actually she a computer

730
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,970
expert? Oh, yes. Well, they're
all experts in everything blow

731
00:45:47,970 --> 00:45:52,110
out preventers, the computer
code or Lang, she looks like

732
00:45:52,110 --> 00:45:56,250
she's an Erlang. Hacker. So of
course not. So instead of

733
00:45:56,250 --> 00:45:59,580
actually getting to the bottom
of this, which they can't,

734
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,440
because there's like 250
different exchanges they have to

735
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,390
look at and they're like, Well,
you know, it's gonna take

736
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:07,350
forever.

737
00:46:08,190 --> 00:46:10,560
The fact of the matter is they
need some GI some real hackers.

738
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:14,010
And it's gonna take six months
to figure this out. waiting six

739
00:46:14,010 --> 00:46:17,040
months, you couldn't even do it.
Maybe it may take years but

740
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,490
whatever to play my stock market
crash clip, which is what we're

741
00:46:20,490 --> 00:46:24,810
hearing now this is what what is
what it's deteriorated into,

742
00:46:24,810 --> 00:46:28,110
which is a bunch of lame
excuses. And we don't know this.

743
00:46:28,110 --> 00:46:30,480
We don't know that and maybe it
was this maybe is that I think

744
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,520
we're concluding this and we're
concluding that.

745
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,880
Now. Sec Chairman Mary Shapiro
and CFTC boss, Gary Gensler are

746
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,240
answering from lawmakers on the
capital markets subcommittee

747
00:46:42,330 --> 00:46:47,130
about that 1000 Point market
flashed last week, basically

748
00:46:47,130 --> 00:46:50,400
both of them saying that their
collective staffs are working

749
00:46:50,460 --> 00:46:53,790
around the clock along with
participants from the key

750
00:46:53,790 --> 00:46:58,140
exchanges to find out what
actually caused that 1000 point

751
00:46:58,140 --> 00:46:59,400
drop last week.

752
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:04,200
We will get to the bottom of
this, I think we will be able to

753
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,890
determine what the initial
triggers were. That's going to

754
00:47:07,890 --> 00:47:13,980
take time there's 66 million
trades on May 6, covering 19 and

755
00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:15,720
a half billion shares of stock.

756
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:20,610
Now, collectively, Shapiro and
Gensler are telling lawmakers so

757
00:47:20,610 --> 00:47:24,300
far, they have ruled out the so
called notion of a fat finger

758
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:27,630
trade. They say they've had no
evidence of prior securities

759
00:47:27,630 --> 00:47:30,600
trading out of the
extraordinary, shall we say no

760
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,980
evidence of a terrorist type
cybersecurity attempt at

761
00:47:34,980 --> 00:47:39,000
hacking, if you will, and CFTC
chair Gary Gensler in particular

762
00:47:39,090 --> 00:47:43,110
is honing in on the notion that
it really was a confluence of

763
00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:43,830
events.

764
00:47:45,929 --> 00:47:49,889
Our own review of trading data
shows that some were starting

765
00:47:49,889 --> 00:47:55,049
around 240, some of the most
actively traded participants in

766
00:47:55,049 --> 00:47:57,689
the futures markets, some of
these high frequency traders

767
00:47:57,749 --> 00:48:01,829
started to limit their
participation around 242 to 43,

768
00:48:01,829 --> 00:48:02,459
and so forth.

769
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:06,810
Yeah, they don't know. They
don't know. But the limit of

770
00:48:06,810 --> 00:48:09,810
participation is where it's
headed. Now. First of all, the

771
00:48:09,810 --> 00:48:15,690
guy says the confluence, which
means it was a coincidence. The

772
00:48:16,740 --> 00:48:19,740
the Dennett follows up with this
idea. And this is the one I

773
00:48:19,740 --> 00:48:23,130
think that's that's, that's
getting the most traction, which

774
00:48:23,130 --> 00:48:26,940
is, well, you know, these guys,
the high frequency trader guys

775
00:48:26,970 --> 00:48:29,460
decided to turn off their
programme for some unknown

776
00:48:29,460 --> 00:48:29,970
reason

777
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,310
and compiling code

778
00:48:33,780 --> 00:48:37,590
and not participate. And
essentially, because the high

779
00:48:37,590 --> 00:48:40,740
frequency trading is so dumb is
so dominant. Apparently

780
00:48:40,740 --> 00:48:45,570
everybody does. It's not just
Goldman, that it's propping up

781
00:48:45,570 --> 00:48:48,270
the market. So once they pull
it, yeah, that's

782
00:48:48,270 --> 00:48:50,190
it. That's actually not a bad
theory.

783
00:48:50,369 --> 00:48:52,769
Ya know, it's propping up the
markets is buying and selling

784
00:48:52,769 --> 00:48:55,379
and making things look real
active, and then they just shut

785
00:48:55,379 --> 00:48:58,169
the thing down for a minute. And
the market just collapses

786
00:48:58,169 --> 00:49:01,409
because there's no support it
what is really saying is that

787
00:49:01,409 --> 00:49:06,389
the market is I would be really
afraid if I was an investor with

788
00:49:06,419 --> 00:49:08,639
with this one thought that
they're starting to propagate,

789
00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:11,579
which is that if it wasn't for
the high frequency trading, this

790
00:49:11,579 --> 00:49:13,499
market would be down at 6000.

791
00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:16,589
Well, so let me ask you a
question. Because I find the

792
00:49:16,589 --> 00:49:21,929
timing of this very interesting.
This happened just before. Just

793
00:49:22,019 --> 00:49:26,399
days before the announcement of
the now what is it almost a

794
00:49:26,399 --> 00:49:30,869
trillion dollar, quote, bailout
of the European Union to the

795
00:49:30,869 --> 00:49:35,999
Eurozone, which many financial
experts are now saying is

796
00:49:35,999 --> 00:49:40,049
probably 1/10 of what will
actually be needed? Now, the way

797
00:49:40,049 --> 00:49:43,259
I see this, I think it's Yeah,
well, I'm thinking 1/10 Two,

798
00:49:43,289 --> 00:49:47,369
yeah. Oh, while we agree, so the
way I the way I'm seeing this is

799
00:49:47,369 --> 00:49:51,029
people don't really understand
what is going on with this

800
00:49:51,029 --> 00:49:53,489
bailout. I mean, it's not like
we're giving money to

801
00:49:53,489 --> 00:49:55,979
governments and like, Oh, thank
you. We needed that money. They

802
00:49:55,979 --> 00:50:00,479
have to pay off these loans. And
if I'm not incur racked these

803
00:50:00,479 --> 00:50:05,909
loans are from huge banks like
Citibank and Goldman Sachs and

804
00:50:05,909 --> 00:50:08,549
those derivatives trades, and
it's, you know, all kinds of

805
00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:11,969
complex stuff. But it's really
going back to bankers, people

806
00:50:11,969 --> 00:50:14,939
who lent these countries the
money, is that a correct

807
00:50:14,939 --> 00:50:15,539
assumption?

808
00:50:17,279 --> 00:50:19,739
Well, you're gonna have to shed
again,

809
00:50:19,859 --> 00:50:25,529
okay? So I see that, you know,
Citibank comes out and says,

810
00:50:25,649 --> 00:50:29,249
Well, we do have an exposure to
Greece, it was, you know, to

811
00:50:29,279 --> 00:50:34,739
$1.7 billion, or something like
that. So the exposure is, Greece

812
00:50:34,769 --> 00:50:38,699
borrowed money. And they have to
pay that back, because these

813
00:50:38,699 --> 00:50:41,519
bonds are now maturing, and it's
time to pay back the loan.

814
00:50:41,759 --> 00:50:45,929
Right? So but these loans are
going to banks. So this money

815
00:50:45,929 --> 00:50:48,809
that Greece is receiving is
going to banks, it's kind of

816
00:50:48,809 --> 00:50:53,549
like I think, Horowitz said it,
right. It's kind of like we had

817
00:50:53,549 --> 00:50:56,639
a credit card, it's full, it
gets caught up, and now we get a

818
00:50:56,639 --> 00:50:59,609
new credit card. But you know,
we still have all this debt

819
00:50:59,609 --> 00:51:02,069
hanging out there. And it's a
never ending story, but it is

820
00:51:02,099 --> 00:51:05,339
ultimately to the holder of the
credit card, which I believe are

821
00:51:05,339 --> 00:51:09,029
pretty much banks, the money is
coming from somewhere. Yeah. So

822
00:51:09,179 --> 00:51:11,549
it's banks that are lending this
money. There may be you know,

823
00:51:11,549 --> 00:51:15,779
there's some sovereign funds. So
like the Chinese, you know, but

824
00:51:15,779 --> 00:51:20,429
that's still a bank. It's
basically banks. So is it

825
00:51:20,579 --> 00:51:25,019
thinkable or within the realm of
possibility that the banks are

826
00:51:25,019 --> 00:51:27,929
like, hey, you know, you guys
better get this better? Get your

827
00:51:27,929 --> 00:51:31,259
crap together? You better like,
show us the money? And if not,

828
00:51:31,259 --> 00:51:34,469
we're going to crash everything.
Watch this. Flip the switch for

829
00:51:34,469 --> 00:51:35,369
two seconds?

830
00:51:37,710 --> 00:51:41,670
No, well, I mean, from my
perspective, it's no because it

831
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:43,530
was screwed there, the bank
should be more screwed than

832
00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:44,070
anyone.

833
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:48,330
You will? Or will they really,
because they'll just get a bail.

834
00:51:48,330 --> 00:51:49,290
I mean, if you think it was just

835
00:51:49,290 --> 00:51:51,960
like a, you know, salvo said,
just scare them, and then really

836
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,690
never do something like that.
But if they crash the whole

837
00:51:54,690 --> 00:51:58,140
system, the banks or their
demise, or, you know, just close

838
00:51:58,140 --> 00:52:01,410
up shop, they'll never get any
money from anybody. I mean, no,

839
00:52:01,410 --> 00:52:04,830
I don't think so. I just doesn't
make sense to me. I think that

840
00:52:04,830 --> 00:52:08,010
this stock market thing was
either an accident, or was or a

841
00:52:08,010 --> 00:52:10,350
beta test, or something, or it
could have been a number, but

842
00:52:10,350 --> 00:52:15,420
it's something that corrected
itself rather quickly. And it

843
00:52:15,420 --> 00:52:17,880
looked like a switched kind of a
thing. I mean, it did have an on

844
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:24,840
and off switch quality to it.
And I don't know I think is more

845
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,930
nefarious than just a bunch of
bankers. You're either more

846
00:52:27,930 --> 00:52:31,980
nefarious or more frightening or
just accidental, I don't know. I

847
00:52:31,980 --> 00:52:35,400
just find the whole thing
disturbing. And it's not. I

848
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,490
don't think it's being really
looked at, from the perspective

849
00:52:38,490 --> 00:52:41,730
of there's a lot of implications
that are just not being

850
00:52:41,730 --> 00:52:44,730
discussed well, as well. So I
just found, yeah,

851
00:52:45,570 --> 00:52:47,580
it was two days before most of
these things happen, like, right

852
00:52:47,580 --> 00:52:50,130
on, you know, like, you know, it
was more interesting, your

853
00:52:50,130 --> 00:52:53,700
argument that Goldman, you know,
got this, you know, indicted and

854
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:55,470
fined, and then it happened that
it makes

855
00:52:55,469 --> 00:52:59,159
no, that was not my argument at
all. I don't think that that was

856
00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:02,249
my argument. No, no, no, they
just want, they just want to

857
00:53:02,249 --> 00:53:05,609
make money at the end of the
day. Yeah. And they all want to

858
00:53:05,609 --> 00:53:07,409
make money. But this whole, you
know, the whole

859
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,930
make a lot of money on the short
side, by the way. No kidding.

860
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,820
And it goes that fast.

861
00:53:12,060 --> 00:53:15,960
But if we look at the United
States of Europe, with this,

862
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:20,310
with this bailout, I think
we're, I really feel that we're

863
00:53:20,310 --> 00:53:21,660
headed towards a war.

864
00:53:22,949 --> 00:53:25,499
Well, isn't that the theory of
our show since the beginning?

865
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:26,009
Yeah.

866
00:53:26,820 --> 00:53:29,370
Really? It really seems like
it's crazy. You know, I was

867
00:53:29,370 --> 00:53:33,000
reading some some Gitmo nation,
lowlands articles actually,

868
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,990
somewhat, and I had to read it's
an English book and I had to

869
00:53:36,990 --> 00:53:41,730
read it on a Dutch website. It
is. This is a who wrote

870
00:53:41,730 --> 00:53:47,130
freefall, written by Nobel Prize
winner Joseph Stiglitz. And this

871
00:53:47,130 --> 00:53:51,600
is about Iceland. So this is
kind of what started things off

872
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,050
in Europe. Iceland, of course,
was the first country to really

873
00:53:55,050 --> 00:53:58,200
be taken down. Through no fault
of the people.

874
00:53:58,499 --> 00:54:00,959
No agenda bookstore. Make note?
Yes.

875
00:54:01,530 --> 00:54:05,580
So here is an interesting
passage from the book. Iceland's

876
00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:08,970
banks had like banks elsewhere
taken on high leverage and high

877
00:54:08,970 --> 00:54:13,020
risks, when financial markets
realise the risk and started

878
00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:17,130
pulling money out these banks
and especially Landsbanki. Now,

879
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:23,280
this is yet the you had the ice
saver accounts, which British

880
00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:26,580
citizens and Dutch citizens
invested in through the

881
00:54:26,610 --> 00:54:32,130
internet. Right. They made these
banks lured money from

882
00:54:32,130 --> 00:54:35,310
depositors in the UK and the
Netherlands by offering them ice

883
00:54:35,310 --> 00:54:38,790
saver accounts with high returns
the depositors foolishly thought

884
00:54:38,790 --> 00:54:41,700
there was a free lunch, they
could get higher returns without

885
00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:44,760
risk, perhaps also foolishly
thought their own governments

886
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,740
were doing their regulatory job,
because it turns out, and this

887
00:54:49,740 --> 00:54:54,780
is 2008. So the finance
ministers, I guess it would be

888
00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:57,450
the exchequer in the United
Kingdom and the Minister of

889
00:54:57,450 --> 00:55:02,400
Finance in the Netherlands which
I guess would be Valtor boss,

890
00:55:03,540 --> 00:55:06,630
they they should have known or
they should have done some what

891
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:10,440
do you call it due diligence
before allowing this cross

892
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,710
border trade and this and this
investment through the internet.

893
00:55:14,130 --> 00:55:16,260
Essentially what these banks
were doing was saying, hey, you

894
00:55:16,260 --> 00:55:18,420
know what we're in, we're in
trouble here. We're gonna need

895
00:55:18,420 --> 00:55:21,450
some money. What do we do? Oh,
yeah, let's get those saps from

896
00:55:21,450 --> 00:55:24,150
over there, we'll have them
invest, and we'll take their

897
00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:29,610
money. They literally took their
money. And the finance ministers

898
00:55:29,610 --> 00:55:34,950
should have at least known this.
And this was 2008 way before

899
00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:40,470
there was any sign of a problem
in the in the public eye. And,

900
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:44,910
you know, it just seems like
it's all all done with with

901
00:55:44,910 --> 00:55:50,940
intent. And then of course, UK
in the Netherlands pay their

902
00:55:51,090 --> 00:55:54,480
their citizens they say, Okay,
well, Allah will front the bill.

903
00:55:54,750 --> 00:56:02,610
And then they go in and they
screw Iceland. I don't know. You

904
00:56:02,610 --> 00:56:06,300
got me on this route worse, you
probably don't care anyway. But

905
00:56:06,420 --> 00:56:08,820
there's an element to that.
Well, this this, of course has

906
00:56:08,820 --> 00:56:12,480
nothing to do with finances is
all about control. And the Euro

907
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,830
is a government project about
world government and not not

908
00:56:16,830 --> 00:56:21,180
about money. Although, of
course, money controls at all

909
00:56:21,180 --> 00:56:25,080
Brussels Dateline. Yesterday,
Europe announced radical plans

910
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,560
Wednesday to prevent member
states budgets from the next

911
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,250
year, drawing decidedly mixed
reactions from Euro giants

912
00:56:32,250 --> 00:56:37,560
Germany and France. So the idea
here is we have to, we have to

913
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,830
look at your accounting. We've
got to see what your budgets

914
00:56:40,830 --> 00:56:42,930
are. And we're going to
determine from Brussels from

915
00:56:42,930 --> 00:56:46,050
Starfleet Command, we're going
to determine what you can do.

916
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,680
Yeah. Okay, this is this is
control. This is totally

917
00:56:52,949 --> 00:56:54,959
a whole things. I agree with
that everything is about

918
00:56:54,959 --> 00:56:59,429
control. The thing that still
gets me and I don't know how

919
00:56:59,429 --> 00:57:02,519
long this can continue, is that
it when you start looking at the

920
00:57:02,519 --> 00:57:07,139
nexus of power, in the EU, it
always crops up as Germany and

921
00:57:07,139 --> 00:57:08,699
France was

922
00:57:09,810 --> 00:57:12,090
the biggest they're the biggest,
bipedal

923
00:57:12,270 --> 00:57:15,720
Vegas, and they seem to be both
dominant. They're both a type A

924
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:19,590
personality countries in this
regard. When is it? How long is

925
00:57:19,590 --> 00:57:23,640
that partnership going to last?
Well, it's never lasted it

926
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,970
throughout history has never
lasted if the basic personality

927
00:57:26,970 --> 00:57:32,100
types of those two countries is
extremely incompatible. So I

928
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:33,330
mean, would you disagree with
that?

929
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,810
No, I totally agree. And of
course, the French and the Brits

930
00:57:36,810 --> 00:57:39,420
are always ragging on each other
all the time.

931
00:57:39,570 --> 00:57:42,330
There had to have it. Did they
have a love hate relationship,

932
00:57:42,330 --> 00:57:44,490
like a couple of brothers love
hate?

933
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,820
They love the French wine and
cheese and hate everything else?

934
00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:49,770
I mean, that's not a real love
hate relationship?

935
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,220
Well, it's true. But yeah, but
they, you know, I think it's

936
00:57:53,220 --> 00:57:57,870
less of a genuine personality
conflict. I mean, I don't think

937
00:57:57,870 --> 00:58:00,510
that I think the personality
conflict between England and

938
00:58:00,510 --> 00:58:04,590
France never see me. It's
interesting. But it's not to the

939
00:58:04,590 --> 00:58:08,760
extreme of, of core
personalities, insofar as the

940
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,860
differences are concerned
between the French and the

941
00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:14,730
Germans. I think there's a core
difference between their the way

942
00:58:14,730 --> 00:58:17,520
they were raised the way they
think, the way they operate

943
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,090
everything about them to French,
in the end that English is kind

944
00:58:21,090 --> 00:58:24,120
of laughable, because they've
you know, it's just different is

945
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,480
that it's not I don't see it as
a how many, you know, their wars

946
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,790
between those two countries
ended, you know, hundreds and

947
00:58:29,790 --> 00:58:31,770
hundreds of years ago, the
French and the Germans had been

948
00:58:31,770 --> 00:58:35,670
battling for less 200. And they
still are as far as I can tell.

949
00:58:36,810 --> 00:58:39,660
I mean, what was something wrong
with that analysis? You think?

950
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:43,559
No, I think that's a good point.
I just wonder if it's gonna be

951
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:47,309
by proxy. It just seems so now
we know France is actually

952
00:58:47,309 --> 00:58:48,509
attacking Britain.

953
00:58:49,830 --> 00:58:52,740
For the British now, the
Cameron. Okay. Here's an

954
00:58:52,740 --> 00:58:55,350
interesting thing. I think of a
clip of this

955
00:58:57,389 --> 00:58:59,459
Cameron's problem. Yeah,

956
00:58:59,460 --> 00:59:03,210
why don't we play that and then
we can go into the fact is, you

957
00:59:03,210 --> 00:59:05,550
know, this is something
Americans don't fully

958
00:59:05,550 --> 00:59:08,250
understand, because we've been
taught in school. And I can

959
00:59:08,250 --> 00:59:11,460
assure you, we've been taught in
school, that England is a

960
00:59:11,460 --> 00:59:16,740
constitutional monarchy, and the
monarchy itself is a figurehead

961
00:59:16,740 --> 00:59:20,190
position that has no meaning.
That's what Americans generally

962
00:59:20,190 --> 00:59:20,670
think.

963
00:59:21,210 --> 00:59:23,340
That's not what I think. I know.

964
00:59:24,869 --> 00:59:25,829
If you play this clip,

965
00:59:26,580 --> 00:59:29,070
all right. I'm just saying if
her name is on the dotted line,

966
00:59:29,070 --> 00:59:31,530
she may be a figurehead but her
name is on the dotted line

967
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,440
over to Simon Hamza. It's
certainly been a big day for the

968
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,650
British government. We want to
get a look at sort of the wrap

969
00:59:37,650 --> 00:59:39,750
up of everything that's been
happening there and talk a

970
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:41,730
little bit more about how it's
gonna affect the currency

971
00:59:41,730 --> 00:59:45,060
market. Simon, if you would just
recap the day's events

972
00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:48,210
what effectively 13 years of
Labour Party rule Trish in the

973
00:59:48,210 --> 00:59:51,870
United Kingdom have come to an
end under Tony Blair, and more.

974
00:59:51,870 --> 00:59:54,960
Lastly, of course, the man who
was his finance minister, Gordon

975
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,220
Brown. We had an election last
Thursday after five days finally

976
00:59:59,220 --> 01:00:02,490
today. Gordon Brown resigned as
Prime Minister because that

977
01:00:02,490 --> 01:00:05,670
election of the three parties
gave none of them a majority.

978
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,310
And he couldn't do a deal with a
third party in order to gain

979
01:00:08,310 --> 01:00:11,550
office. There you see him
walking out of Downing Street to

980
01:00:11,550 --> 01:00:15,540
go and ask the Queen, if he
could move on in life. She then

981
01:00:15,540 --> 01:00:18,900
asked David Cameron, who is the
head of the Conservative Party,

982
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,090
if you are kindly former
government, he is now therefore

983
01:00:21,090 --> 01:00:24,870
the prime minister. And indeed
We believe or it's apparent that

984
01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:28,140
he is going to rule in a
coalition with the third party,

985
01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:32,040
the Liberal Democrats the scale
of Cameron's task, and this is

986
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,130
what the markets are focused on.
Trish is absolutely enormous.

987
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,770
Outside Downing Street, as you
see him there. He spoke about

988
01:00:37,770 --> 01:00:41,310
confronting problems facing up
to challenges. And front and

989
01:00:41,310 --> 01:00:45,540
centre of those challenges are
the British deficit this year

990
01:00:45,540 --> 01:00:51,660
expected to be $250 billion,
that's 12.8% of GDP, far more

991
01:00:51,660 --> 01:00:54,120
severe than you have here in the
United States. And the

992
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:58,320
expectation that demand from the
Treasury is to the cause cuts or

993
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:04,170
tax rises equal to 5% of GDP,
$105 billion, we have an

994
01:01:04,170 --> 01:01:07,800
emergency budget, which he will
go ahead with within 50 days.

995
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,140
That is the promise. The
question for the markets is

996
01:01:10,140 --> 01:01:12,990
exactly how we'll steer that
will be we know he'd like $9

997
01:01:12,990 --> 01:01:16,950
billion of spending cuts, the
Liberal Democrats are working in

998
01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:19,110
the right.

999
01:01:20,010 --> 01:01:25,260
It ended there. Yeah, sorry. It
because he goes on forever. But

1000
01:01:25,290 --> 01:01:29,640
what the point he ends up making
is that the Tories may be

1001
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:33,000
forever screwed because of what
they have to do. But at the

1002
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,070
beginning of that clip was the
interesting part, which is the

1003
01:01:35,070 --> 01:01:38,130
queen, you know, Gordon Brown
went there begging that he could

1004
01:01:38,130 --> 01:01:42,120
leave and she said yes. And then
she then she, she, as we said,

1005
01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:45,120
weeks and weeks and weeks ago on
the show that you know, Cameron

1006
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,310
was obviously on the fast track
to become the next prime

1007
01:01:47,310 --> 01:01:50,640
minister. It's time for him to
take the baton. And and but but

1008
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,840
the fact that the Queen had to
get into the news cycle, and

1009
01:01:54,870 --> 01:01:57,930
tell him, you know that here's
what here's what's what, you're

1010
01:01:57,930 --> 01:02:00,000
going to be the prime minister,
and then you're going to work

1011
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,710
with these other guys, and
you're going to have to fix this

1012
01:02:01,710 --> 01:02:06,750
problem. Really kind of takes
away the idea that the Queen's a

1013
01:02:06,750 --> 01:02:07,470
figurehead?

1014
01:02:07,860 --> 01:02:12,210
Well, you know what, it's a good
backstop, because in case the

1015
01:02:12,210 --> 01:02:15,300
elites don't get what they want,
then she can always just step in

1016
01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:17,190
and say here's how we're going
to do it. A couple other

1017
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:20,190
interesting things I noticed
about this coalition, which is

1018
01:02:20,190 --> 01:02:28,770
the first one in 30 years, if
55% of the coalition government

1019
01:02:28,770 --> 01:02:33,660
does not agree on an issue, then
they disband. Oh, I didn't know

1020
01:02:33,660 --> 01:02:37,230
that. Yeah. Well, I mean, and of
course, you know, I love it, how

1021
01:02:37,230 --> 01:02:39,630
I get emails from people saying
you don't understand our

1022
01:02:39,630 --> 01:02:42,420
government works. Well. Maybe
it's just interesting to listen

1023
01:02:42,420 --> 01:02:45,390
to how American looks in a great
honey. Maybe it's just

1024
01:02:45,390 --> 01:02:48,030
interesting to learn how
Americans think about it, but I

1025
01:02:48,030 --> 01:02:51,630
did live there and I do think
that I have some knowledge of

1026
01:02:51,630 --> 01:02:57,600
what's going on. So this is how
a cabinet falls. So 55% Doesn't

1027
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:03,150
seem like a lot. You know, it
seems like you know, things

1028
01:03:03,150 --> 01:03:07,530
could be kind of worked out,
particularly when you note that

1029
01:03:07,530 --> 01:03:12,420
in this new cabinet. Listen to
the bankers who are now members

1030
01:03:12,420 --> 01:03:16,320
of parliament, Mark Garn. Yay,
emerging market specialist Joe

1031
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,230
Johnson, brother of London Mayor
Boris Johnson, who worked at

1032
01:03:19,230 --> 01:03:23,700
Deutsche Bank, Jacob Riis, MOG,
formerly of Rothschild and Lord

1033
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:27,780
George management, investment
management expertise boosted by

1034
01:03:27,780 --> 01:03:30,630
the arrival of Richard Graham,
former head of international

1035
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:34,380
business of bearings, asset
management, also founder of the

1036
01:03:34,380 --> 01:03:39,270
British Chamber of Commerce in
Shanghai. And then we have

1037
01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:47,220
Matthew Hancock who was George
Osborne's Chief of Staff and

1038
01:03:47,220 --> 01:03:53,520
brains behind the conservatory
economic policies. He was co

1039
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,630
author of The Oculus report on
red tape and regulate regulation

1040
01:03:57,630 --> 01:04:01,650
commissioned by the Tories, Mark
reckless economist for bearings

1041
01:04:01,650 --> 01:04:06,090
and Warburg Bank. There's a lot
of bankers in there. So who

1042
01:04:06,090 --> 01:04:06,570
interesting,

1043
01:04:06,780 --> 01:04:10,740
don't you think it's interesting
how the bankers are taking over

1044
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,500
the world of politics when it
used to be the lawyers?

1045
01:04:13,710 --> 01:04:16,620
Well, it's a much easier way to
control people through their

1046
01:04:16,620 --> 01:04:20,550
money. The law stuff is
complicated takes a lot of time

1047
01:04:20,550 --> 01:04:23,640
to write, you know, here's just
like, Shut up slave. I'm gonna

1048
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,420
take your money. It's like,
okay, what do you want me to do?

1049
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:33,150
One other interesting little
ditty in the coalition document

1050
01:04:33,150 --> 01:04:36,960
which I read, which of course is
interesting, because they these

1051
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,420
two parties, the Liberal
Democrats and conservatives have

1052
01:04:39,420 --> 01:04:42,990
very different views on a number
of issues on most things. Yeah.

1053
01:04:43,110 --> 01:04:46,740
One of the big ones seems to be
a change in the way voting will

1054
01:04:46,740 --> 01:04:50,430
happen, which will include a
referendum. That's actually one

1055
01:04:50,430 --> 01:04:56,280
of the longest pieces of the
document. There's some banking

1056
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:01,800
reform, immigration political
reform The funniest one, though,

1057
01:05:02,550 --> 01:05:11,460
is out of nowhere. We're gonna
implement high speed rail. It's

1058
01:05:11,460 --> 01:05:16,830
right there in the coalition
agreement. Really? Yeah. Email.

1059
01:05:17,220 --> 01:05:22,020
Let's listen to this. Listen to
this. I love this. The

1060
01:05:22,020 --> 01:05:25,320
establishment of a high speed
rail network. So it's not just

1061
01:05:25,350 --> 01:05:28,110
we're going to talk about we're
going to do it the cancellation

1062
01:05:28,110 --> 01:05:31,500
of the third runway at Heathrow
planes, good planes, bad trains.

1063
01:05:31,500 --> 01:05:35,430
Good. Wow, the refusal of
additional runways at Gatwick

1064
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:39,870
and Stansted and the replacement
of the air passenger duty with a

1065
01:05:39,870 --> 01:05:43,590
per flight duty. So

1066
01:05:45,150 --> 01:05:46,740
no, wait, get good. Just go over
that. Again. We're

1067
01:05:46,740 --> 01:05:47,340
grounded

1068
01:05:47,490 --> 01:05:49,830
the establishment of a high
speed rail network. No, no, no,

1069
01:05:49,830 --> 01:05:51,090
no, no, that last part, by the
way.

1070
01:05:51,449 --> 01:05:55,589
Oh, the replacement of the air
passenger duty the tax with a

1071
01:05:55,589 --> 01:06:02,009
per flight tax. So now it's mean
oh, that means it's, it's easier

1072
01:06:02,009 --> 01:06:05,669
for guys to keep planes on the
ground, because there's extra

1073
01:06:05,669 --> 01:06:11,519
taxes if it actually flies. And
I believe that the airlines have

1074
01:06:11,519 --> 01:06:15,989
to charge that if they don't
already. It's a tricky one.

1075
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,370
Well, there's definitely a
movement to Yeah, I think this

1076
01:06:20,370 --> 01:06:22,620
is the you've nice find, by the
way.

1077
01:06:22,679 --> 01:06:25,799
Thank you. Well, reading you
know, it's not that hard. The

1078
01:06:25,799 --> 01:06:30,449
BBC was gonna read him who, by
the way, mandating a national

1079
01:06:30,449 --> 01:06:34,169
recharging network for electric
and plug in hybrid vehicles

1080
01:06:34,169 --> 01:06:39,989
mandating mind you a mandate for
power outlets on the highway.

1081
01:06:41,639 --> 01:06:44,879
You know how long it takes to
recharge a battery operated car?

1082
01:06:45,839 --> 01:06:48,089
What are you gonna do park it
there for 12 hours and take it I

1083
01:06:48,089 --> 01:06:51,239
mean, maybe one of these things
where you just sleep all night.

1084
01:06:51,839 --> 01:06:53,459
I still tell

1085
01:06:53,489 --> 01:06:58,979
I still think it takes longer to
to prep this show than it does

1086
01:06:58,979 --> 01:07:02,789
to charge your car. Just one
funny little bit. Remember that?

1087
01:07:03,330 --> 01:07:07,950
You know how long it takes to
charge an iPad. I'm not that

1088
01:07:07,950 --> 01:07:11,370
long, actually. Five minutes.
Yeah. Well, it was a little more

1089
01:07:11,370 --> 01:07:14,070
than five. No, no five minutes
because I went to the store the

1090
01:07:14,070 --> 01:07:16,530
other day and I gave him the
American Express card took five

1091
01:07:16,530 --> 01:07:17,010
minutes.

1092
01:07:19,770 --> 01:07:21,480
Bada Boom, wait, I have a

1093
01:07:24,090 --> 01:07:25,650
tech grouch joke by that. I

1094
01:07:25,650 --> 01:07:28,500
like that. So remember, the
crazy lady who was yelling?

1095
01:07:29,310 --> 01:07:32,700
Blew the joke. just mentioning
it, you know?

1096
01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:39,869
It was a joke to say. I'm a
horrible story, man. Kay Kay

1097
01:07:39,869 --> 01:07:43,439
Burley Is that crazy woman who
was yelling the Sky News woman

1098
01:07:43,439 --> 01:07:49,019
who was yelling at all that
horrible person. Yeah. So she's

1099
01:07:49,019 --> 01:07:52,949
really funny. She's gonna get
sued. So apparently she doesn't

1100
01:07:52,949 --> 01:07:56,459
do just political stuff. But she
also was covering Naomi

1101
01:07:56,459 --> 01:07:59,819
Campbell. And so there's a whole
bunch of photographers and

1102
01:07:59,819 --> 01:08:02,609
everybody out there trying to
get a shot of Naomi Campbell and

1103
01:08:02,609 --> 01:08:07,739
some photographer bumps his lens
into her cheek. And by the way,

1104
01:08:07,739 --> 01:08:12,119
she's an elitist now she's
she's, she's at Royal Ascot with

1105
01:08:12,119 --> 01:08:16,139
her big with a big hat on and
everything. Oh, lovely. So she

1106
01:08:16,139 --> 01:08:19,739
gets pissed off she grabs the
photographer by the throat and

1107
01:08:19,739 --> 01:08:30,299
chokes her and and then later
she says she says I didn't put

1108
01:08:30,299 --> 01:08:34,199
my hands on anyone. I was
provoked. Well, I might have put

1109
01:08:34,199 --> 01:08:38,489
my hands on so I put my I put my
hands up you know I didn't choke

1110
01:08:38,489 --> 01:08:42,269
anybody and then there's great
pictures of her literally with

1111
01:08:42,299 --> 01:08:46,589
with a hand around this poor
photographers throat choking her

1112
01:08:47,009 --> 01:08:50,549
is a picture of her neck it's
completely scarred with the with

1113
01:08:50,549 --> 01:08:53,579
this choke marks this woman is a
horrible horrible elitist

1114
01:08:53,579 --> 01:08:54,209
person.

1115
01:08:54,690 --> 01:08:57,900
She is terrible and then if she
shows a naive not to notice that

1116
01:08:57,900 --> 01:08:58,560
every you're in

1117
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,090
everyone's taking her picture.

1118
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,060
Everyone's taking pictures. What
an idiot.

1119
01:09:03,209 --> 01:09:05,099
It's funny. It's in the office.
Yes.

1120
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:05,700
Fired.

1121
01:09:05,759 --> 01:09:10,409
Yeah shownotes it No, we're not
gonna get fired. She's, she's

1122
01:09:10,409 --> 01:09:12,659
perfect. He's perfect. So

1123
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,020
let's get back to this other
point. Which is the I don't I

1124
01:09:16,020 --> 01:09:23,130
haven't heard a more obvious
rails good aeroplanes bad yeah,

1125
01:09:23,370 --> 01:09:25,650
then that one because they want
you to know we're not going to

1126
01:09:25,650 --> 01:09:29,400
put the extra runways up. No,
we're not going to do that. But

1127
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,340
yes, we're going to do high
speed rail which and I don't

1128
01:09:32,340 --> 01:09:36,150
know I mean it Britain is. I
mean, what do they need high

1129
01:09:36,150 --> 01:09:38,850
speed rail for their? Where are
you? Where are you going to go?

1130
01:09:40,889 --> 01:09:43,919
The trains are already such a
success. And they're so

1131
01:09:43,919 --> 01:09:47,159
affordable. They take the
toilet. They took the toilets

1132
01:09:47,159 --> 01:09:55,829
out to make room. So I say long
on adult diapers. Now now, it's

1133
01:09:55,829 --> 01:09:56,459
crazy.

1134
01:09:56,940 --> 01:09:59,790
So okay, we got an email from
somebody in Australia.

1135
01:10:00,450 --> 01:10:03,720
discussing there, they get all
of it out of the blue that this

1136
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,270
guy sent us a note saying that,
well, I thought you guys are

1137
01:10:06,270 --> 01:10:10,050
full of crap. And I don't know
what this high speed rail thing

1138
01:10:10,050 --> 01:10:13,230
is in his den. He says all of a
sudden apparently fast with no

1139
01:10:13,230 --> 01:10:16,800
discussion was like a billion
dollars for high speed rail in

1140
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,520
Australia, which he says, is
extremely ludicrous because

1141
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,340
there's a huge distance between
all the towns and if you wanted

1142
01:10:23,340 --> 01:10:26,370
to go to Perth, on a high speed
rail, no matter how fast it

1143
01:10:26,370 --> 01:10:28,080
went, it was still taking days.

1144
01:10:28,740 --> 01:10:34,170
Well, I've taken that to trans
Australia line is 24 hours from

1145
01:10:34,380 --> 01:10:39,390
like Melbourne to Perth. And
that doesn't go very fast. So it

1146
01:10:39,390 --> 01:10:41,760
would go faster than that. I
think

1147
01:10:41,999 --> 01:10:44,849
it How far is Melbourne to
Perth?

1148
01:10:44,879 --> 01:10:46,919
It's about 24 hours by train.

1149
01:10:47,220 --> 01:10:50,160
Yeah, but how I turned into my
thank you, thank you very much.

1150
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:50,280
I

1151
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,340
don't know it's a famous real
well, is that was the Indian

1152
01:10:53,340 --> 01:10:54,180
Pacific. Yeah, no,

1153
01:10:54,180 --> 01:10:57,180
I've heard it. So it's one you
want to take. But anyway, it

1154
01:10:57,180 --> 01:11:00,450
seems to me that I don't know,
this whole high speed rail thing

1155
01:11:00,450 --> 01:11:01,740
is getting on my nerves. Well,
there's

1156
01:11:01,740 --> 01:11:04,230
two other things, actually three
other things.

1157
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,280
Somebody also did some
calculations on whatever the

1158
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:11,400
differences that make the high
speed rail line unless it is an

1159
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,630
express line is you it has to
stop all the time. So the

1160
01:11:15,630 --> 01:11:18,060
momentum, you know, it goes out
to you know, the tuner miles an

1161
01:11:18,060 --> 01:11:21,750
hour or 300. Let's hope and it
has to slow to nothing and stop

1162
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:24,300
dead. I mean that you know, so
your average speed is going to

1163
01:11:24,300 --> 01:11:27,090
be next to nothing. Somebody
talked to me about that.

1164
01:11:27,090 --> 01:11:30,090
Apparently some Japanese
technology. No one's implemented

1165
01:11:30,090 --> 01:11:30,480
this yet.

1166
01:11:31,140 --> 01:11:35,400
I have it in the show notes. The
the animation of it, of the top

1167
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:35,670
car

1168
01:11:35,670 --> 01:11:36,780
being dropped off. Yeah,

1169
01:11:36,810 --> 01:11:39,960
it's like they just like unhook
it like, Hey, I'm on hook and

1170
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,450
get out. And so it does slow
down a little bit, but doesn't

1171
01:11:42,450 --> 01:11:46,770
stop and then it basically roars
past the station, the car to

1172
01:11:46,770 --> 01:11:49,800
everyone has to move into the
drop off car like Chevy buddies

1173
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:50,850
like a mailbag.

1174
01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:55,410
With a hook. It's just like,
look, I'm on the hook. And then

1175
01:11:55,410 --> 01:11:58,590
it'll pick up the people who are
waiting in the car that you know

1176
01:11:58,620 --> 01:12:01,950
that that is at that station.
And so it never really stops.

1177
01:12:01,950 --> 01:12:04,350
But I mean, this is not
implemented yet. I mean,

1178
01:12:04,379 --> 01:12:08,489
this is never going to be but
because it's too crazy, but I

1179
01:12:08,489 --> 01:12:11,309
think it'd be funny to have a
system like that. Because you

1180
01:12:11,309 --> 01:12:14,279
can imagine, you know, like,
you're on your train trip to

1181
01:12:14,279 --> 01:12:16,589
your marriage. And you say, Hey,
honey, I gotta go to the

1182
01:12:16,589 --> 01:12:19,619
bathroom, I'd be right back. And
you just sneak up to the

1183
01:12:20,190 --> 01:12:22,890
top of the car to the drop off
car. And

1184
01:12:23,490 --> 01:12:27,090
boom, the train is on its way
and you're like, back behind the

1185
01:12:27,210 --> 01:12:27,990
line.

1186
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,260
So two things I wanted to
mention. There's something we

1187
01:12:31,260 --> 01:12:34,800
have to be on the lookout for
showing up everywhere in I'll

1188
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:41,730
just say real news sites are
anti plane stories. And I have

1189
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:46,290
two of them one from Gitmo
nation lowlands and one from the

1190
01:12:46,290 --> 01:12:50,490
National Journal which is set us

1191
01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:53,370
I should you us are

1192
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,600
Yeah, I agree with you and I
think it's us. Okay. And so

1193
01:12:57,630 --> 01:13:01,440
they'll have a story. No, I'm
sorry. This is UK they'll have a

1194
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:06,660
story is the three hour tarmac
delay rule good for travellers.

1195
01:13:06,660 --> 01:13:10,170
And it's Lisa Caruso writes in
the National Journal blah blah

1196
01:13:10,170 --> 01:13:14,100
blah harsh penalties for US
airlines blah blah blah blah

1197
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:17,430
blah blah. And then it's the
whole page is filled with

1198
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:24,570
banners for Northern Norfolk
Southern transportation. Yeah,

1199
01:13:24,570 --> 01:13:29,250
for the railway and then there's
one from the Netherlands on news

1200
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:35,820
out.com. And by the way, these
are not rotating banners these

1201
01:13:35,850 --> 01:13:39,240
these are set banners that do
not rotate. I've been I captured

1202
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:43,740
him first in PDF and a refreshed
refresh the next day. So top

1203
01:13:43,740 --> 01:13:49,590
story the ash cloud I'm
translating on the fly the ash

1204
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:55,590
cloud from the Iceland volcano
is still disrupting air traffic

1205
01:13:55,590 --> 01:14:00,270
in the north north of Europe.
here here's the latest news and

1206
01:14:00,270 --> 01:14:03,780
the most recent predictions for
closures and right underneath

1207
01:14:03,780 --> 01:14:10,560
it. High speed the fast and
always trustworthy alternative

1208
01:14:11,070 --> 01:14:15,390
travel by train in the middle of
the page right underneath the

1209
01:14:15,390 --> 01:14:16,080
story

1210
01:14:16,410 --> 01:14:19,770
might date well but why would
they be promoting it in them on

1211
01:14:19,770 --> 01:14:22,200
the continent because they've
got already have it?

1212
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,540
No, no, no, the Netherlands that
oh, the high speed train story

1213
01:14:27,540 --> 01:14:31,230
in The Netherlands is a two
decade old story. They started

1214
01:14:31,230 --> 01:14:35,250
this of course all of this
started a long time ago. They

1215
01:14:35,610 --> 01:14:41,910
they flattened villages houses
everything for this. This gutter

1216
01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:46,050
which is going to have this high
speed train and the gutter has

1217
01:14:46,050 --> 01:14:50,460
been there for a decade, but the
train is still not running. Now

1218
01:14:50,460 --> 01:14:53,070
this has been a multibillion
dollar fiasco

1219
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:55,980
timorous does it make in
Holland. Did you have high speed

1220
01:14:55,980 --> 01:14:59,130
rail or not? Well, you get on a
slow train you're out of the

1221
01:14:59,130 --> 01:15:01,200
country and about 14 minutes?

1222
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:06,150
Well, I've been thinking about
it. And the only thing I could

1223
01:15:06,150 --> 01:15:12,000
come up with is with air travel.
You don't control anything

1224
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,460
except the takeoff and the
landing. Yeah, me sure there's

1225
01:15:14,460 --> 01:15:18,090
control over where you fly, etc.
But you can't tag someone for

1226
01:15:18,090 --> 01:15:21,960
going over land. You can't, you
know, there's no infrastructure

1227
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:26,580
in the sky. It's just a money
grab. If we can move the people

1228
01:15:26,580 --> 01:15:29,520
on the earth, then we can make a
lot more money off of it. That's

1229
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:30,810
the only thing I can see.

1230
01:15:31,649 --> 01:15:35,459
No, no, I still think it's about
freight. I mean, Norfolk

1231
01:15:35,459 --> 01:15:37,679
Southern, or whatever you're
talking about that other plant

1232
01:15:37,679 --> 01:15:40,859
that other operation that's not
coming is ever going to carry

1233
01:15:40,859 --> 01:15:43,589
passengers. That's a pure
freight company,

1234
01:15:43,949 --> 01:15:47,399
isn't it? Yeah. I'm not familiar
with them.

1235
01:15:48,269 --> 01:15:51,239
It's a freight company. I mean,
Burlington, northerns, a freight

1236
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:54,179
company, the only people doing
passenger traffic in the US

1237
01:15:54,179 --> 01:15:58,319
because everybody else had this
is a loser is Amtrak. And they

1238
01:15:58,319 --> 01:16:00,719
contract with a few of the other
was a few of the rails for

1239
01:16:00,719 --> 01:16:05,219
their, for their right of ways.
But you know what, Norfolk

1240
01:16:05,219 --> 01:16:07,979
Southern is never going to go
into the passenger business in a

1241
01:16:07,979 --> 01:16:08,999
million years.

1242
01:16:09,989 --> 01:16:14,699
I'm clicking on the banner. And
then this is funny. The future

1243
01:16:14,699 --> 01:16:18,599
needs us.com Oh, that's great.
That's great. You see a road

1244
01:16:18,599 --> 01:16:23,279
with cars. And it's old smokey
and then dusty. And then it goes

1245
01:16:23,279 --> 01:16:27,659
to the smokey Old Guard go to
the future needs us.com And then

1246
01:16:27,659 --> 01:16:32,129
it goes to a freight train. So
first, you see cars with two

1247
01:16:32,129 --> 01:16:39,359
trucks. And then freight train.
Amazing. The future needs us it

1248
01:16:39,359 --> 01:16:41,879
needs green jobs a competitive
economy clean,

1249
01:16:42,480 --> 01:16:46,290
clean air. You know what I think
anyone out there who has friends

1250
01:16:46,290 --> 01:16:50,580
in the teamsters union should
teamsters should be on this

1251
01:16:50,580 --> 01:16:54,480
because this isn't a direct
attack on the infrastructure of

1252
01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:57,540
trucking in this country, which
is extreme was not assessed

1253
01:16:57,540 --> 01:17:00,900
country, every country job in
every country, but we are very

1254
01:17:00,900 --> 01:17:08,070
truck oriented. Yeah. More so
than Europe. Yes. So I would say

1255
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:11,790
to something, something's up. We
know something's up. It's just

1256
01:17:11,790 --> 01:17:12,270
you know?

1257
01:17:13,710 --> 01:17:19,200
Well, of course, the big news
and as Rahm Emanuel said, Never

1258
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:24,510
let a good crisis go to waste is
John Kerry introduced the new

1259
01:17:24,540 --> 01:17:26,850
version of the cap and trade
bill yesterday.

1260
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:31,290
Oh, another version of the cap
and trade scam? Yes. And you see

1261
01:17:31,290 --> 01:17:34,290
the by the way, juicy, the fact
that now science magazine

1262
01:17:34,410 --> 01:17:37,350
finally revealed the fact that
this on the blog, by the way did

1263
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:40,890
work.org/blog That that polar
bear picture was totally

1264
01:17:40,890 --> 01:17:41,550
photoshopped.

1265
01:17:42,210 --> 01:17:45,630
scam? Yeah, it's in the it's in
the show notes. Nobody, of

1266
01:17:45,630 --> 01:17:48,780
course will mention this. You
know, Carrie or anybody else's

1267
01:17:48,780 --> 01:17:53,010
they tried to plough through
this cap and trade scam. out and

1268
01:17:53,010 --> 01:17:57,060
out scam, you know, and all
Diplo pro global warmists are

1269
01:17:57,060 --> 01:17:59,580
all going oh, well, you know,
you can't take a chance. You

1270
01:17:59,580 --> 01:18:01,980
know, we're just trying to you
know, yeah, okay, we used a bad

1271
01:18:01,980 --> 01:18:06,630
photo. But you know, it was sure
was a good ideas right? In not

1272
01:18:06,630 --> 01:18:12,270
only that, but they also used
another picture of a house

1273
01:18:12,300 --> 01:18:17,130
underwater as saying this was
because of global warming.

1274
01:18:17,130 --> 01:18:19,650
Flooding was happening
everywhere. And they got that

1275
01:18:19,650 --> 01:18:24,900
off of stock photo.com or
istockphoto.com. And it's it

1276
01:18:24,900 --> 01:18:29,070
says literally right there. It
says this is a Photoshop

1277
01:18:29,190 --> 01:18:33,630
computer generated. Yeah. So a
couple of the things and then we

1278
01:18:33,630 --> 01:18:37,650
should get into our thinking
some of our our borders today.

1279
01:18:37,650 --> 01:18:42,420
Yeah. So first of all, this
bill, which I looked, it's 890

1280
01:18:42,420 --> 01:18:45,300
pages. I looked through it
yesterday has cap and trade

1281
01:18:45,300 --> 01:18:49,230
right in there. Of course it's
very complicated language. But

1282
01:18:49,230 --> 01:18:52,170
wow, what a rollout we have this
thing happening in the Gulf.

1283
01:18:52,290 --> 01:18:55,950
Everyone's going crazy, because
you know, we're all gonna die.

1284
01:18:56,550 --> 01:19:01,860
And and then cap and trade gets
rolled out and it's now called

1285
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,060
Hold on a second. It's called
they haven't it's called the

1286
01:19:06,060 --> 01:19:12,750
climate change bill in the
public. Vernacular just s 1733.

1287
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,980
It is a bill to create clean
energy jobs. Of course, it's all

1288
01:19:19,980 --> 01:19:20,820
about job. Oh,

1289
01:19:20,820 --> 01:19:23,310
yeah. It's always about jobs.
Yes. It's always been the

1290
01:19:23,310 --> 01:19:24,720
children. Yes, it's about

1291
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:31,800
jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, reduce
global warming, pollution and

1292
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:36,150
transition to a clean energy
economy, short title, the clean

1293
01:19:36,150 --> 01:19:42,870
energy jobs and American Power
Act. And he had Dow Corning he

1294
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:45,510
had everybody they're all the
guys who are gonna get a whole

1295
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:49,740
bunch of money. And by the way,
it's free. John Kerry said

1296
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,160
yesterday, this is free is going
to cost us nothing. It's all

1297
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:57,660
free. I need to get that clip.
It's free. It's just free. Don't

1298
01:19:57,660 --> 01:19:59,160
worry about it. It's free.

1299
01:19:59,730 --> 01:20:03,060
It's guides turned out to be one
of the great sleaze balls.

1300
01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:07,410
Total ass wipe, ever. So
everyone's on board with this

1301
01:20:07,410 --> 01:20:12,660
programme and I want to play a
clip from Geraldo. And so of

1302
01:20:12,660 --> 01:20:17,220
course this is all on the heels
of of the disaster the

1303
01:20:17,250 --> 01:20:20,670
monumental, massive disaster
we've never seen anything like

1304
01:20:20,670 --> 01:20:25,770
it in the history of all mankind
in the Gulf. Interesting to note

1305
01:20:25,950 --> 01:20:29,400
that you don't see any aerial
photographs. No one's got a

1306
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:34,110
helicopter showing this huge oil
spill because I guess the oil is

1307
01:20:34,110 --> 01:20:35,820
under the water. Well, there's

1308
01:20:35,820 --> 01:20:37,260
some pictures on the National

1309
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,460
Cup. Yeah, but why is it if it
was really that horrible? Why

1310
01:20:41,460 --> 01:20:45,300
don't I see you I hear about the
turtles, but I don't see birds

1311
01:20:45,300 --> 01:20:46,380
with oil. Well, I had

1312
01:20:46,380 --> 01:20:49,320
the one clip I we didn't play it
was with you last week or the

1313
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,440
week before I didn't move it
forward, where this woman is all

1314
01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:54,150
and they found a dead bird.

1315
01:20:55,050 --> 01:20:58,680
Well, I'm, and I don't want to
downplay it. And of course, you

1316
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:03,420
know, this is not fun, but it's
just like, health care. You

1317
01:21:03,420 --> 01:21:05,880
know, it's like we're all the
people are jumping up and down

1318
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,850
on the news saying, Yeah, I've
got health care. You don't see

1319
01:21:08,850 --> 01:21:11,610
him because it's not happening
because it's not true. Because

1320
01:21:11,610 --> 01:21:15,600
if it was, I'm sure they would
want to report on it. So Geraldo

1321
01:21:15,630 --> 01:21:21,300
has a guy go out and talk to a
fisherman. And by the way, the

1322
01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:25,680
water is blue. It's beautiful.
The other guy's got a salty guy.

1323
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,550
He's got wind in his hair, and
he's being interviewed by one of

1324
01:21:29,550 --> 01:21:30,660
her all those dudes

1325
01:21:30,780 --> 01:21:34,140
that we all love. Even
Greenpeace recognises America's

1326
01:21:34,140 --> 01:21:38,220
need to be energy independent,
and Steiner scoffs at conspiracy

1327
01:21:38,220 --> 01:21:41,250
theories that the Obama
administration was slow to

1328
01:21:41,250 --> 01:21:45,840
respond because it's secretly
wanted to undermine offshore oil

1329
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:46,590
industry.

1330
01:21:46,620 --> 01:21:49,770
By the way, that's a little
message to us to play the clip.

1331
01:21:51,570 --> 01:21:55,200
Hey, hey, no agenda, guys,
that's we're talking about you.

1332
01:21:55,260 --> 01:21:55,920
I think that's

1333
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,060
kind of ludicrous.

1334
01:21:57,090 --> 01:22:01,080
No, has placed a ban on fishing
in most of the Gulf costing

1335
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,710
billions was the band and
overreaction, though? Isn't it

1336
01:22:04,710 --> 01:22:08,730
possible that this water this
big body of water, we'll just

1337
01:22:08,730 --> 01:22:12,390
churn and wash this stuff out?

1338
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,780
Let's hope so. I mean, this is
an open ocean environment,

1339
01:22:15,780 --> 01:22:18,960
there's going to be some wave
wave activity and such. It's a

1340
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,080
very different ecosystem than
Alaska and elsewhere.

1341
01:22:22,110 --> 01:22:25,140
But that I find very
interesting, because of course,

1342
01:22:25,140 --> 01:22:30,570
I'm not a biologist, or a water
ologists. But it is a different

1343
01:22:30,570 --> 01:22:34,410
ecosystem, he says, and the
waves can make a difference. And

1344
01:22:34,770 --> 01:22:37,470
I mean, do you hear that? John,
you agree there's something that

1345
01:22:37,470 --> 01:22:39,630
it is different from Alaska?
That's what he just said this

1346
01:22:39,630 --> 01:22:41,280
guy's night? Yeah. Okay, good

1347
01:22:41,310 --> 01:22:45,540
God, while it's doing that, it's
exposing all the water column

1348
01:22:45,540 --> 01:22:49,710
organisms to toxicity that
otherwise weren't. So there's

1349
01:22:49,710 --> 01:22:52,830
no, there's no win out of this.
It's a lose lose situation. And

1350
01:22:52,830 --> 01:22:53,640
you see

1351
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,370
what's happening in the oil
industry and offshore drilling,

1352
01:22:57,210 --> 01:23:00,840
comparable or some kind of
parallel to like the movie

1353
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:01,530
Avatar?

1354
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,510
Oh, wait, it gets better. John,
you thought it stopped there.

1355
01:23:07,140 --> 01:23:10,980
You know, these environments
were terrestrial primates. And

1356
01:23:10,980 --> 01:23:15,750
so we get what goes on on land.
But humans haven't spent a lot

1357
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:19,170
of time on the ocean. Most
people haven't. So it's a little

1358
01:23:19,170 --> 01:23:22,950
bit of foreign environment for
people. But these are precious,

1359
01:23:22,980 --> 01:23:26,610
productive environments. The
oceans sustain much of the life

1360
01:23:26,610 --> 01:23:30,900
on Earth. So yeah, this is, this
is a treasure, treasure, a

1361
01:23:30,900 --> 01:23:32,550
national treasure that we
shouldn't put.

1362
01:23:32,820 --> 01:23:36,960
I love the national treasure.
But treasure there's more.

1363
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:42,060
There's more at risk. This this
is fantastic. This this is now

1364
01:23:42,090 --> 01:23:44,550
your brain is about to fart.
This is our

1365
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:48,720
avatar. That certainly could be
although the fights Gorny and

1366
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,930
director James Cameron are
waiting to protect the rights of

1367
01:23:51,930 --> 01:23:56,040
the indigenous people of the
Amazon from a huge hydroelectric

1368
01:23:56,040 --> 01:24:00,300
plant is a world away from the
situation in the Gulf oil spill.

1369
01:24:00,570 --> 01:24:04,200
The principle is the same
protecting the planet from those

1370
01:24:04,230 --> 01:24:07,320
interested in only quick profits
tell me

1371
01:24:07,860 --> 01:24:11,460
since when people oil companies
don't make quick profits, it

1372
01:24:11,460 --> 01:24:14,790
takes billions and I don't want
to sound like an oil company

1373
01:24:14,790 --> 01:24:16,650
shill. But that's just bullshit.

1374
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,070
That's total bullshit. And to
build one of these hydroelectric

1375
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:23,970
plants, it takes decades of deep
to plan it and all the rest of

1376
01:24:23,970 --> 01:24:27,120
it. It's not it's anything but a
quick profit. It's a profit. But

1377
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,190
it's not quick and it's not
easy.

1378
01:24:29,460 --> 01:24:30,660
It gets better. How is

1379
01:24:30,660 --> 01:24:34,560
your life affected? Knowing the
change that avatar has had?

1380
01:24:34,620 --> 01:24:37,890
I mean, so now we're on the
avatar world making people more

1381
01:24:37,890 --> 01:24:39,960
environmental but who is he
talking to?

1382
01:24:40,440 --> 01:24:43,740
conscious when you went to visit
these people in their natural

1383
01:24:43,740 --> 01:24:44,310
environment?

1384
01:24:44,580 --> 01:24:48,660
You know, what I feel that
avatar did was was show the

1385
01:24:48,660 --> 01:24:53,130
world how concerned people are
about our planet that we are

1386
01:24:53,130 --> 01:24:55,080
aware of the damage we're doing
to our planet.

1387
01:24:56,640 --> 01:25:00,480
Sigourney Weaver. Unbelievable.
Yeah, it showed People the

1388
01:25:00,480 --> 01:25:04,680
damage we're doing to our planet
No and showed blue people in 3d

1389
01:25:04,710 --> 01:25:09,750
is time. More than time for us
to stop now, and all help each

1390
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:13,800
other find energy efficient ways
of producing.

1391
01:25:15,210 --> 01:25:16,680
What kills shameless

1392
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,270
Shameless, Shameless.

1393
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:22,050
Oh, wait, I can roll it out.
Hold on, John. Here it comes. I

1394
01:25:22,050 --> 01:25:25,170
can finally do it. I've been
waiting all day. Big, big,

1395
01:25:25,290 --> 01:25:31,650
big, big, big, big, big, big,
big, big, big, big, big, big,

1396
01:25:32,250 --> 01:25:36,270
big, big. It's all about things
that are bringing hungry feed

1397
01:25:36,270 --> 01:25:40,380
doesn't drink. He doesn't show
he reaches in and whips it out.

1398
01:25:40,470 --> 01:25:45,570
He doesn't believe and when he
started to see his rights, big

1399
01:25:45,570 --> 01:25:59,460
big fish. Big Big Fish Two big
garbage pants thing big, big

1400
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,250
and I think that I think that
that's your first and last

1401
01:26:02,250 --> 01:26:11,490
playing of betting. Not short
Diddy. Oh my god. It's so

1402
01:26:12,900 --> 01:26:16,860
it's your Big Beef. Yeah. All
right. But yeah, it's it's

1403
01:26:16,860 --> 01:26:18,930
completely outrageous.

1404
01:26:20,220 --> 01:26:23,670
That is ridiculous. And then
what are what is your overall

1405
01:26:23,670 --> 01:26:25,080
and this is on Fox?

1406
01:26:25,110 --> 01:26:28,050
Oh, yeah. But listen to what
Geraldo says is come back after

1407
01:26:28,050 --> 01:26:31,350
this. This bit with Tip of the
day, by the way.

1408
01:26:31,379 --> 01:26:34,949
Yeah. Sigourney Weaver. Craig,
it seems to me that this may be

1409
01:26:35,069 --> 01:26:38,789
a pivotal moment to re energise
a real environmental movement,

1410
01:26:38,969 --> 01:26:43,439
not the you know, politicians
and others who are claiming

1411
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,229
making preposterous claims not
backed by science, but having

1412
01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:49,469
kids and people get involved the
way they did in previous

1413
01:26:49,469 --> 01:26:52,739
disasters, Three Mile Island,
for instance, or Chernobyl.

1414
01:26:56,340 --> 01:27:00,180
Kids are getting involved in
church. They don't have any

1415
01:27:00,180 --> 01:27:02,310
hair. Let me tell you, that's
one aspect.

1416
01:27:03,300 --> 01:27:07,110
Three Mile if kids need to get
involved, no politicians can't

1417
01:27:07,110 --> 01:27:10,080
change anything. Kids from
Toronto who were involved in

1418
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:15,630
Chernobyl. Chernobyl, listen
against Betsy,

1419
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,080
the Deepwater Horizon disaster
as the Three Mile Island event,

1420
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,980
the Exxon Valdez a way to change
the industry. You know, the

1421
01:27:22,980 --> 01:27:26,790
tanker industry was changed, the
nuclear industry has changed. So

1422
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:29,850
this is gonna be a catalyst. And
environmentalists want to see

1423
01:27:29,850 --> 01:27:34,050
more of a move to cleaner energy
as a result. So it just goes on

1424
01:27:34,050 --> 01:27:34,140
and

1425
01:27:34,140 --> 01:27:36,450
on and on, which is
unbelievable.

1426
01:27:36,990 --> 01:27:39,660
And it gets because the die is
run Morocco.

1427
01:27:40,020 --> 01:27:43,020
I mean, I thought Fox was at
least had some, you know,

1428
01:27:43,050 --> 01:27:48,990
semblance of like, middle of the
road to right wing attitude

1429
01:27:48,990 --> 01:27:53,880
about things. This is just out
and out. Crap. But what's

1430
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:57,870
Geraldo doing there? I mean, why
don't you just go to CNBC? Well,

1431
01:27:57,870 --> 01:27:58,200
because

1432
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,090
Fox is run by the Denver Ms.

1433
01:28:00,390 --> 01:28:04,200
I'm sorry, CNBC is run by the
Democrats we owe it is obvious.

1434
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,200
It's run by the Democrats to
have this report, which was

1435
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,800
nothing less than pathetic. And
I'm glad I didn't see it because

1436
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,710
my blood would have been
boiling. By the time I had

1437
01:28:13,740 --> 01:28:14,550
dubbed it.

1438
01:28:15,780 --> 01:28:20,340
So the thing that the thing that
gets me and of course, a lot of

1439
01:28:20,340 --> 01:28:24,480
C span is that, you know, all
the politicians are doing the

1440
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:27,660
same thing. We need clean
energy. Hey, I don't think

1441
01:28:27,690 --> 01:28:31,500
anyone is against windmills. I
don't think anyone you know, I

1442
01:28:31,500 --> 01:28:35,340
don't think anyone is against
solar, but it doesn't work well

1443
01:28:35,340 --> 01:28:37,890
enough. We know you can't just
like

1444
01:28:38,940 --> 01:28:40,470
steal a money loser. Yeah,

1445
01:28:40,500 --> 01:28:45,000
it doesn't work nuclear.
Alright, I'm all for that. What

1446
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,000
what is the administration give
us a couple of bullshit promises

1447
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,280
for maybe eight nuclear plants
made and

1448
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,220
the problem that we have with
new nukes in this country and

1449
01:28:53,820 --> 01:28:57,240
er, well, no, there's also the
fact that you know, people well

1450
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:01,470
France to France, France, France
has a standardised power plant.

1451
01:29:01,650 --> 01:29:04,800
Everyone is the same if you hire
somebody that runs the power

1452
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:08,370
plant and you know, outside as
she known at some other place in

1453
01:29:08,370 --> 01:29:12,150
France, they the controls are
the centre in the United States

1454
01:29:12,150 --> 01:29:15,240
of America, all the nuclear
power plants that we've done,

1455
01:29:15,480 --> 01:29:19,680
are all custom made. They're all
different. They're extremely

1456
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,040
expensive. They're they're crap
by comparison, because they're

1457
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,770
all we got to use the latest
technology so they keep changing

1458
01:29:25,770 --> 01:29:29,580
things. And General Electric, of
course, is the big big winner in

1459
01:29:29,580 --> 01:29:32,850
that regard. They're one of the
many companies but gee, that's

1460
01:29:32,850 --> 01:29:35,490
why you always you never hear
anything really negative about

1461
01:29:35,490 --> 01:29:40,800
these things in on MSNBC. It's
just a it's a corrupt, horrible

1462
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:45,240
situation. You know, the, I
don't know, I just find this

1463
01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:48,660
distressing that they keep
propagandising People at the at

1464
01:29:48,660 --> 01:29:53,070
the level of a movie called
Avatar. Yeah. I mean, do they

1465
01:29:53,070 --> 01:29:57,360
really think the public is that
stupid? I'm sure. Yes. Yes.

1466
01:29:58,050 --> 01:30:01,860
John. Yes, yes. Do hobbyists

1467
01:30:10,710 --> 01:30:15,660
or wind let's credit some of our
non slave listeners. Yes, that's

1468
01:30:15,660 --> 01:30:19,950
about to think for themselves
for helping us out on this last

1469
01:30:19,950 --> 01:30:23,220
show. And by the way, we do have
show number 200 Coming up on

1470
01:30:23,220 --> 01:30:27,330
Sunday. And now's the time I
don't want to pre promote it.

1471
01:30:27,330 --> 01:30:30,090
But now's the time if you want
to be one of the executive or

1472
01:30:30,090 --> 01:30:34,020
Associate Executive producers
for show number 200. And God

1473
01:30:34,020 --> 01:30:36,330
knows if we'll get to 500, which
would be the next big

1474
01:30:36,330 --> 01:30:37,020
breakthrough.

1475
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:41,490
We're not going to do 250 or 333
or something like that.

1476
01:30:41,580 --> 01:30:43,980
Oh, we definitely would do 333
Now you mentioned it. Yeah.

1477
01:30:43,980 --> 01:30:47,730
Thank you. I thought so. Oh,
yeah. 333 Absolutely.

1478
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,630
That's the next milestone in our
career.

1479
01:30:52,410 --> 01:30:54,300
250 might happen to that it'd be
nice.

1480
01:30:54,900 --> 01:31:03,210
If we get hungry. We'll do 250
If I get a huge, like, tax bill

1481
01:31:03,210 --> 01:31:04,680
or some shit like that

1482
01:31:06,090 --> 01:31:08,370
can happen any minute after
you're brought in the Japanese

1483
01:31:08,370 --> 01:31:08,940
machine?

1484
01:31:08,970 --> 01:31:13,260
That's how they do it. We're
like a 2007 you still owe us

1485
01:31:13,260 --> 01:31:17,250
money from when they were rich.
You bastard. Come here. Nice

1486
01:31:17,250 --> 01:31:19,230
wait. report of

1487
01:31:19,230 --> 01:31:22,350
a Japanese machine. Gunby Yeah,
why did you get the report all

1488
01:31:22,350 --> 01:31:25,440
these guys are bragging about it
on the done the sum podcast.

1489
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:30,990
So Adam, Adam Burke Pyle, who I
believe is the creator of the

1490
01:31:30,990 --> 01:31:37,470
pocket no agenda app. Donated
$150. So I'm going to presume

1491
01:31:37,470 --> 01:31:40,860
that's from sales of the pocket
no agenda app, which I have to

1492
01:31:40,860 --> 01:31:43,650
say is one of my favourites. I
really do like it. It's a

1493
01:31:43,650 --> 01:31:50,610
winner. Yeah. John Schneider
from Chicago. The run of

1494
01:31:50,610 --> 01:31:57,480
numbers, the straight
1234 $523.45. Then we have

1495
01:31:57,510 --> 01:32:03,180
Daniel Tara Steny. From
Woodbury, Connecticut. Adam,

1496
01:32:03,180 --> 01:32:06,900
please dedicate a song to my
wife on this Friday is DSC.

1497
01:32:06,900 --> 01:32:11,640
Okay, I'll do that on Friday.
Sorry about that. But he's

1498
01:32:11,850 --> 01:32:12,960
really fan by the way.

1499
01:32:12,990 --> 01:32:16,350
Well, he's clearly supporting
the whole concept of, of the

1500
01:32:16,350 --> 01:32:25,680
show. With his $110.20. Then we
have anonymous from Montreal, or

1501
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,340
Montreal, Quebec, Canada, Adam,
stop promoting Doctors Without

1502
01:32:29,340 --> 01:32:33,690
Borders. Look into one of their
founders. Dr. Bernard Kushner,

1503
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:38,160
French Foreign Secretary great
show, huh? Well, I don't think

1504
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,230
I've been overly promoting them
have no,

1505
01:32:40,230 --> 01:32:42,600
he only actually only mentioned
them a couple of times during

1506
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:46,560
the early days of Haiti. But we
will look into this. We will

1507
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:50,700
find the perfect the perfect
charity for the Haitian relief

1508
01:32:50,700 --> 01:32:52,830
and I'm getting the opinion or
they're coming to the

1509
01:32:52,830 --> 01:32:56,010
conclusion. We got a good note
from some what one of our

1510
01:32:56,310 --> 01:32:59,100
producers actually did some
research on that. And I wouldn't

1511
01:32:59,100 --> 01:33:01,680
mind talking about it on the
International Red Cross. Yeah,

1512
01:33:01,890 --> 01:33:04,650
no, no. on Haiti and the
internet, the International Red

1513
01:33:04,650 --> 01:33:06,090
Cross, I'm not there yet. But
Haiti,

1514
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,750
okay, with International Red
Cross is just another note. It's

1515
01:33:09,780 --> 01:33:10,860
got nothing to do with any

1516
01:33:11,100 --> 01:33:14,760
profit profitable organisation.
I calculate and they're very,

1517
01:33:14,790 --> 01:33:15,330
very human

1518
01:33:15,330 --> 01:33:17,820
rights operation has got nothing
to do with medicine. And they

1519
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,710
and they're set up shopping in
Haiti.

1520
01:33:19,770 --> 01:33:24,390
I looked at their balance sheet.
They have $600 million in the

1521
01:33:24,390 --> 01:33:29,670
bank. Wow. Yeah. Huh. That will
some of its in derivatives by

1522
01:33:29,670 --> 01:33:33,510
the way. About 10%. Yeah, why
not? Yeah, good. Christopher

1523
01:33:33,510 --> 01:33:36,600
does Scott Oh, double nickels on
the dime from Las Vegas, Nevada.

1524
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:39,300
Hey, got a better job. Two weeks
ago, I told myself I was able to

1525
01:33:39,300 --> 01:33:41,400
find a better job this year, I
would start a plan to become a

1526
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,730
knight. Four days later, I got a
call from an old boss basically

1527
01:33:44,730 --> 01:33:48,090
offered me my dream job and a
change to move back to where my

1528
01:33:48,090 --> 01:33:51,510
family lives. I'm driving across
the country from North Las Vegas

1529
01:33:51,510 --> 01:33:58,680
to PA my friend Steve from
Detroit is a he's been listening

1530
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,820
from day one but not
contributing. And Harry Meyer

1531
01:34:03,180 --> 01:34:09,780
from Stevenson Ranch California.
Also 5151 And then we have the

1532
01:34:09,780 --> 01:34:15,870
click lab limited from Auckland,
New Zealand. John, that's,

1533
01:34:16,260 --> 01:34:18,240
that's wrong. That's for Dvorak
uncensored.

1534
01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:21,600
Oh, that shouldn't be on that
list. Okay, take that off.

1535
01:34:22,230 --> 01:34:27,960
And Lisa Lang has started on her
layaway programme. She's

1536
01:34:28,590 --> 01:34:31,680
Fitzroy, north of Victoria in
Australia. We gotta go.

1537
01:34:31,710 --> 01:34:35,850
We have we also have three more
that came in on our Deuce club

1538
01:34:36,150 --> 01:34:39,900
listings, which we'll be
discussing on this special show,

1539
01:34:40,260 --> 01:34:42,840
which I should mention big
digital like laggers and the

1540
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:48,660
double nickel and dime programme
Matthew McDonald, Peter bhiva or

1541
01:34:48,660 --> 01:34:54,150
Beva and Jeff rochem, or I'm
sorry, Rosslyn or Rockland

1542
01:34:54,150 --> 01:34:56,790
Rocklin. Probably Roc H li n.

1543
01:34:57,749 --> 01:35:01,019
That is the sound John of me
unsheath If you wouldn't mind

1544
01:35:01,049 --> 01:35:09,779
grabbing yours yes very well. We
want to ask Adam Miller to come

1545
01:35:09,779 --> 01:35:12,689
over here he's actually if he
was listening to the stream live

1546
01:35:12,689 --> 01:35:16,109
it's been an extra long wait for
him to be just a regular dude

1547
01:35:16,109 --> 01:35:20,489
named Adam Miller. Because we
had that kernel panic and

1548
01:35:20,489 --> 01:35:25,619
everything crashed. Adam Miller
kneel before us please. Very

1549
01:35:25,619 --> 01:35:33,179
good as we now dubbed the name
de ser Adam Miller night of the

1550
01:35:33,179 --> 01:35:38,459
no agenda roundtable. John, we
need the extra long ones for

1551
01:35:38,459 --> 01:35:38,849
this

1552
01:35:38,940 --> 01:35:42,090
for this bit. Your gums? Yeah.
Okay.

1553
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:46,980
We are going to do a slew of
night Noir's. These are the

1554
01:35:46,980 --> 01:35:51,150
Black Knights who have
contributed over a time. And

1555
01:35:52,980 --> 01:35:55,980
somehow we just didn't get to
him because we couldn't count.

1556
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,880
You know the rules if you
support the show with up to

1557
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:04,740
$1,000 over time all donations
count. Then you can become a

1558
01:36:04,740 --> 01:36:06,960
knight of the no agenda
roundtable. John, why don't you

1559
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,780
just give us all the names and
in one go and then I'll give

1560
01:36:09,780 --> 01:36:12,480
them one big clunk with a sword
and do them all at once.

1561
01:36:12,660 --> 01:36:16,590
Yeah, thanks. Thanks for doing
that. Since I just said my

1562
01:36:16,590 --> 01:36:17,910
screen. I got the wrong Aaron

1563
01:36:17,970 --> 01:36:24,420
Jones, Philip Evans, Roland
Ruth, Kelly Spartanburg.

1564
01:36:24,690 --> 01:36:29,640
I got the last two, Margaret
George and Todd Simmons real

1565
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:30,180
before

1566
01:36:30,180 --> 01:36:37,440
the round table, you have the
honour bestowed upon thee, of no

1567
01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:44,370
night Noir. Please enjoy your
future ring and join the Knights

1568
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:45,840
of the no agenda roundtable.

1569
01:36:51,570 --> 01:36:53,640
Like to Sir Rolland of wooddale.

1570
01:36:54,630 --> 01:36:58,980
And by the way, you knights can
create their own uniform. They

1571
01:36:58,980 --> 01:37:02,520
can put as many crazy things on
their uniform as they want, like

1572
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:08,610
generals. Yep, they're like us
generals. They can. Well, of

1573
01:37:08,610 --> 01:37:11,190
course, we all communicate with
each other, they get special

1574
01:37:11,190 --> 01:37:15,090
benefits. We do stuff for our
nights. Or whenever you you

1575
01:37:15,090 --> 01:37:18,210
know, winter, spring, summer
fall, all you got to do is call

1576
01:37:19,590 --> 01:37:23,820
and we'll come run for our
nights. And of course, so as

1577
01:37:23,820 --> 01:37:26,820
always want to thank everyone
who is on the monthly

1578
01:37:26,820 --> 01:37:31,410
programmes, $5 a month, the
lucky $30 People who are saving

1579
01:37:31,410 --> 01:37:34,980
up to become knights, it's
highly appreciated. And all we

1580
01:37:34,980 --> 01:37:37,320
want is value for value. If you
think we're putting some into

1581
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,960
this and you see some value,
then you give us whatever value

1582
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:40,890
you think it is.

1583
01:37:42,450 --> 01:37:44,790
Yeah, and if you think about
what your time is worth the fact

1584
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:49,710
that we don't have commercials
to the tune of probably saving

1585
01:37:49,710 --> 01:37:52,080
you for our if you listen to the
show all the time and a lot of

1586
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:56,310
people do. Saving you probably
four or five, maybe six hours a

1587
01:37:56,310 --> 01:38:00,510
month of your personal time.
What is your time worth? We

1588
01:38:00,510 --> 01:38:03,840
would appreciate our monthly
basis. You know, it's a cheap,

1589
01:38:04,140 --> 01:38:07,200
it's a cheap investment to be
honest about it to help us out.

1590
01:38:07,919 --> 01:38:10,709
It's cheaper than one of Eliot
Spitzer is hookers.

1591
01:38:12,810 --> 01:38:16,740
Yeah, well, he was going for
Yeah, the big money hookers. I

1592
01:38:16,740 --> 01:38:19,650
think us with the two $3,000
girls, and I don't

1593
01:38:19,650 --> 01:38:22,170
think they were even worth it.
Really? When I looked at him.

1594
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:28,620
Hey, the Voyager two John, which
I recall, this was probably

1595
01:38:28,650 --> 01:38:31,770
crap. I don't know. 10 No, not
even 10 years old. When did this

1596
01:38:31,770 --> 01:38:39,180
thing launch Voyager Voyager to
launch than it is 1977. And

1597
01:38:39,180 --> 01:38:40,680
danger. Sorry,

1598
01:38:41,790 --> 01:38:45,960
leisure, that's the one that
becomes becomes a Borg robot and

1599
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:47,790
comes back and tries to kill us
all?

1600
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:55,950
Well, it's starting as Voyager
two, all of a sudden started to

1601
01:38:55,950 --> 01:39:03,000
transmit data that NASA could
not decode. So now, of course,

1602
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:05,430
you know the Voyager This is the
one that we put a whole bunch we

1603
01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:09,600
put like Chuck Berry Johnny be
good. And we put music in there.

1604
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:13,320
We put like symbols and, you
know, some poppy seeds and some

1605
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:16,290
other stuff. And you know, they
if you guys discover us out

1606
01:39:16,290 --> 01:39:18,900
there, and this is what we're
all about. Here's who we are.

1607
01:39:19,260 --> 01:39:22,770
And this thing sends back
signals, takes about 13 hours

1608
01:39:22,770 --> 01:39:27,420
for the signals to reach it
either way. And of course, NASA

1609
01:39:27,420 --> 01:39:31,140
has been in contact with it
continuously. It's now at the

1610
01:39:31,140 --> 01:39:36,510
very edge of our solar system.
And on April 22, the data

1611
01:39:36,510 --> 01:39:42,060
packets returning from Voyager
two cannot be decoded. They've

1612
01:39:42,060 --> 01:39:48,660
changed. So I'm thinking
someone's on board, send the

1613
01:39:48,660 --> 01:39:49,530
messages back.

1614
01:39:50,820 --> 01:39:51,870
Some kid

1615
01:39:53,100 --> 01:39:56,760
some space some space kid is on
there, like hey, let me send

1616
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,640
some stuff back. He's probably
sending his version of Johnny be

1617
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:05,910
good bye. act. So they've the
NASA is somewhat puzzled over

1618
01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:16,050
this. So I think it's kind of
interesting that the data pack

1619
01:40:16,050 --> 01:40:19,680
has changed. And that doesn't
just happen. You know, why would

1620
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,410
the computer all of a sudden
just like start changing the

1621
01:40:22,410 --> 01:40:26,640
packets and what you saw, I wish
it was like open source. And we,

1622
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:28,860
you know, we could get these
packets and they should do like

1623
01:40:28,860 --> 01:40:34,230
a SETI at home type thing. And,
you know, they should let

1624
01:40:34,230 --> 01:40:37,350
everyone work on it and try and
decode what messages are coming

1625
01:40:37,350 --> 01:40:40,200
back. I mean, isn't don't we own
this data as citizens of the

1626
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:45,060
United States of Gitmo? I would
think it would be nice. I want

1627
01:40:45,060 --> 01:40:49,260
to give some props to one of our
producers, as you know, our

1628
01:40:49,260 --> 01:40:52,980
listeners are our producers. I'm
seeing more and more of this, of

1629
01:40:52,980 --> 01:40:54,840
people doing the research for
us. So

1630
01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:57,780
by the way, I think we forgot to
mention that when people if they

1631
01:40:57,780 --> 01:40:59,790
want to donate where to where
they can go.

1632
01:41:01,860 --> 01:41:03,690
It would be helpful, wouldn't
it? It would be helpful,

1633
01:41:03,690 --> 01:41:08,160
no agenda
show.com divorce.org/in. A, and

1634
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:12,090
challenge vorak.com/in. A that
might be useful. And especially

1635
01:41:12,090 --> 01:41:15,690
if you want to be one of the
producers of the 200th show, I

1636
01:41:15,690 --> 01:41:18,540
think I would encourage
participation. And by the way,

1637
01:41:18,540 --> 01:41:22,740
we still have the deuce club. It
finishes off at show 200 we're

1638
01:41:22,740 --> 01:41:27,390
still collecting $200 for the
200th show as a tribute. And

1639
01:41:27,390 --> 01:41:29,970
we're gonna have a celebration
episode, which is going to

1640
01:41:29,970 --> 01:41:33,300
deconstruct our own show. And
that's still that's still going

1641
01:41:33,300 --> 01:41:37,140
on. dvorak.org/deus and every I
send a mailing out, you know,

1642
01:41:37,140 --> 01:41:39,060
and people are you know, you're
sending it these too many

1643
01:41:39,060 --> 01:41:42,720
mailings. I send like two a
month. And,

1644
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:46,290
oh, too many mailings, right?
How many shows do you get a

1645
01:41:46,290 --> 01:41:50,700
month? We do too many shows John
was cut back was just cut.

1646
01:41:50,700 --> 01:41:54,360
So anyway, we're just normal
complainers. But anyway, the

1647
01:41:54,390 --> 01:41:58,620
point is, is that this is a
good, good moment to join the

1648
01:41:58,620 --> 01:42:00,810
deuce club. And of course, some
people have pointed out that our

1649
01:42:00,810 --> 01:42:03,900
logo for the deuce club looks
like two enormous breasts.

1650
01:42:04,620 --> 01:42:07,590
And you think that's a mistake,
of course, is not a

1651
01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:11,610
mistake. Exactly. I'm just
amazed that people think it's a

1652
01:42:11,610 --> 01:42:12,300
mistake.

1653
01:42:12,420 --> 01:42:15,900
By the way, the chat room has
already solved the Voyager two

1654
01:42:15,900 --> 01:42:21,390
issue. They say the Voyagers SSL
cert certificate from Network

1655
01:42:21,390 --> 01:42:26,340
Solutions expired. So that's
clearly what's going on there.

1656
01:42:26,730 --> 01:42:32,310
So our producer, Kevin flick,
did some work on Haiti, of

1657
01:42:32,310 --> 01:42:35,520
course, you know, the drill by
now this is a total take over

1658
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:38,820
the country, it's going to be a
great tourist destination, Bill

1659
01:42:38,820 --> 01:42:42,480
Clinton, who economically
screwed the country throughout

1660
01:42:42,480 --> 01:42:48,240
his entire visit in the White
House, is now the yuan, UN

1661
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:50,880
special envoy, and he's in
charge of the billions of

1662
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,820
dollars. But interestingly
enough, the people of Haiti are

1663
01:42:53,820 --> 01:42:57,780
drowning, and are dying. But of
course, we only need about

1664
01:42:57,780 --> 01:43:01,050
30,000 of them to man, the
hotels, that's probably what

1665
01:43:01,050 --> 01:43:04,950
they're thinking. So all these
links are in the show notes. I'm

1666
01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:10,530
not going to belabour it. But he
found an interesting path of

1667
01:43:10,530 --> 01:43:19,620
articles. The oil developers are
about to buy the Island of La, I

1668
01:43:19,620 --> 01:43:24,870
guess it's Jonov. And this is
about two miles from the

1669
01:43:24,900 --> 01:43:28,110
epicentre of the earthquake. And
these guys have been trying to

1670
01:43:28,110 --> 01:43:31,230
buy this for years. And now all
of a sudden, it looks like

1671
01:43:31,230 --> 01:43:35,490
they're going to buy it actually
buying the island. And so funny

1672
01:43:35,490 --> 01:43:39,630
when you see some of the
paperwork from global renewable

1673
01:43:39,630 --> 01:43:44,730
energy, there's q&a Like FAQs,
saying so what will happen to

1674
01:43:44,730 --> 01:43:47,580
the inhabitants? Will they no
longer be citizens of Haiti? No,

1675
01:43:47,580 --> 01:43:50,370
there'll be citizens? Well, what
will life be like? It'd be like

1676
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:53,610
life will be the same only
better. That's literally their

1677
01:43:53,610 --> 01:44:01,170
answer. Basically, well, they
call themselves a global

1678
01:44:01,170 --> 01:44:08,040
renewable energy, but they're an
oil outfit. And so in September

1679
01:44:08,100 --> 01:44:12,270
of 2009, this is just three
months before the earthquake,

1680
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:19,080
Bill Clinton spoke at the at the
annual Haitian unity Congress.

1681
01:44:19,740 --> 01:44:23,910
And, of course, the global
renewable energy guys, were

1682
01:44:23,910 --> 01:44:27,630
there. We got all kinds of
pictures with them. And it's so

1683
01:44:27,630 --> 01:44:30,570
obvious that what's going on
there? And it turns out,

1684
01:44:31,050 --> 01:44:33,750
according to global renewable
energies, yeah. Let me just get

1685
01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:37,920
the FAQs for you because it's
really funny. So how many people

1686
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:43,140
live on La Jonov? About 90,000.
Why develop? Well, it is

1687
01:44:43,140 --> 01:44:46,260
situated on the windward
passage, which is one of the

1688
01:44:46,260 --> 01:44:51,150
world's most highly trafficked
energy, sea lanes. This I did

1689
01:44:51,150 --> 01:44:57,180
not know. So it's a strategic
This is why it's strategically

1690
01:44:57,180 --> 01:45:01,740
so important, because it'll be
great. have a huge port there.

1691
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:05,640
It's sheltered in the Gulf of
luxury. And I've protected by

1692
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:07,980
the high mountain ranges. I
mean, it doesn't get much

1693
01:45:07,980 --> 01:45:11,310
better. This is the perfect
place the perfect place.

1694
01:45:11,490 --> 01:45:14,670
What do you think? What do you
mean? What do I think? I mean,

1695
01:45:14,670 --> 01:45:16,890
what's it perfect you by me you
think that they would put in,

1696
01:45:16,890 --> 01:45:19,500
for example, but it sounds to me
that if there's a bunch of you

1697
01:45:19,590 --> 01:45:22,680
saying tankers go by there,
yeah, it's the most so So what

1698
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,630
you'd want to do is, you know,
we're talking we talked about

1699
01:45:24,630 --> 01:45:27,900
this manipulation of the oil and
gas prices. So what you'd want

1700
01:45:27,900 --> 01:45:30,600
to do and this is what I would
look out for in the future, this

1701
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,000
will be my prediction. Okay, as
opposed to your zombie

1702
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:33,600
prediction.

1703
01:45:35,820 --> 01:45:38,700
You know what, I'm the one with
the machine gun when you just

1704
01:45:38,700 --> 01:45:40,560
come over here when you need
protection. Yeah,

1705
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,610
when's the last time you clean
that thing? So anyway, I'm

1706
01:45:44,610 --> 01:45:47,610
thinking if you get the
protected port and everything

1707
01:45:47,610 --> 01:45:50,790
that's it sounds to me like a
place you'd put a tank farm up.

1708
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:53,760
And these big changes that come
in and

1709
01:45:54,629 --> 01:45:58,529
I'm sorry, it's in the FAQs,
three mammoth tanks. You're

1710
01:45:58,529 --> 01:45:58,889
right.

1711
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:04,080
Ah, well, I'm already ahead of
myself. Yep. I'm looking at is

1712
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:05,040
only the beginning.

1713
01:46:05,790 --> 01:46:08,580
I'm looking at the FAQs right
now. Oh, it's gonna be an oil

1714
01:46:08,580 --> 01:46:09,420
refinery.

1715
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:14,430
The I didn't even need to read
the FAQ.

1716
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:19,800
Why locate an oil refinery on
luxury Nova zona? Well, the

1717
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:22,860
island needs to have a balance
of trade and be self sufficient.

1718
01:46:22,890 --> 01:46:25,950
Yeah. For the 90,000 people who
are there they need an oil

1719
01:46:25,950 --> 01:46:29,520
refinery. The oil refinery will
produce the diesel fuel for

1720
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:33,420
machinery and generators jet
fuel for the airport's bunker

1721
01:46:33,420 --> 01:46:37,620
see fuel for cruise ships,
petroleum coke for power plants,

1722
01:46:37,650 --> 01:46:42,210
asphalt for required paved area,
Steam, industrial city and water

1723
01:46:42,210 --> 01:46:45,210
for the industrial city. If it
were necessary to import the

1724
01:46:45,210 --> 01:46:48,090
aforementioned supplies, the
island of Loginov will be less

1725
01:46:48,090 --> 01:46:52,830
attractive to developers. Oh,
please give me a break. So who

1726
01:46:52,830 --> 01:46:53,490
the hell needs

1727
01:46:53,490 --> 01:46:58,170
a stinky refinery? Yeah. I mean,
if it was, if it was, you know,

1728
01:46:58,170 --> 01:47:00,600
American, you know, in the
United States, we've done a

1729
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,810
pretty good job of keeping the,
the oil refiners from just

1730
01:47:04,350 --> 01:47:07,170
basically stinking up the place.
Because if they're not, if you

1731
01:47:07,170 --> 01:47:09,420
don't have a lot of air
pollution control devices on

1732
01:47:09,420 --> 01:47:12,210
these refineries, because of the
nature of depending on the kind

1733
01:47:12,210 --> 01:47:15,390
of crude oil you have, but if
you generally speaking, there,

1734
01:47:15,420 --> 01:47:18,810
we don't really do a lot of
news, they talk about sweet and

1735
01:47:18,810 --> 01:47:22,410
sour. That's the typical two
type types of crude oil that are

1736
01:47:22,410 --> 01:47:25,170
available. And then there's kind
of hybrids that are pretty

1737
01:47:25,170 --> 01:47:27,840
amazing Bolivian oil, for
example, is notorious for almost

1738
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:29,850
being able to pump it out of the
ground and put it right into a

1739
01:47:29,850 --> 01:47:33,420
diesel engine without refining
it all. But anyway, generally

1740
01:47:33,420 --> 01:47:35,490
speaking, you have two kinds of
oil, sweet and sour. And the

1741
01:47:35,490 --> 01:47:38,220
sweet oil is what we usually
have here. sweet crude, you see

1742
01:47:38,220 --> 01:47:41,610
it traded as a commodity. And
sweet crude goes in it doesn't

1743
01:47:41,610 --> 01:47:44,640
have a lot of sulphur doesn't
stink up the place. sour crude,

1744
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:48,090
which has plenty of it around.
You got to take it to someplace

1745
01:47:48,090 --> 01:47:52,440
like Haiti, where you can refine
it and just stink the place up

1746
01:47:52,500 --> 01:47:55,110
without anybody worrying about
it or complaining because who's

1747
01:47:55,110 --> 01:47:55,890
gonna complain?

1748
01:47:56,250 --> 01:47:59,730
Nobody, a bunch of Haitians
there will drown it anyway. So

1749
01:47:59,730 --> 01:48:04,020
anyway, the kicker. The very
last question on the FAQ. And

1750
01:48:04,020 --> 01:48:07,800
this, this goes completely to my
theory of earthquake machines

1751
01:48:07,830 --> 01:48:11,670
ready? What happens if the
government of Haiti does not

1752
01:48:11,670 --> 01:48:15,300
approve the project soon? So
this was written a couple of

1753
01:48:15,300 --> 01:48:19,500
years ago, this FAQ? Well, the
project has been delayed for

1754
01:48:19,500 --> 01:48:23,070
nearly three years, the
developers are becoming

1755
01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:28,170
impatient. If the project is not
approved soon, then it will be

1756
01:48:28,170 --> 01:48:32,490
moved to the Dominican Republic.
So there you go.

1757
01:48:32,670 --> 01:48:35,880
Oh, interesting. The development
is reliable. By the way, if

1758
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:36,240
you're gonna

1759
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,310
patient Of course, it's a
threat.

1760
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,600
Yes, I don't read though,
because the Dominican Republic,

1761
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:45,510
which is it's not going to put
at I'm assuming they're going to

1762
01:48:45,510 --> 01:48:50,190
be doing crew sour crude
refining, because that's what

1763
01:48:50,190 --> 01:48:53,760
you would do. The Dominican
Republic wouldn't put up with

1764
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,670
it. So they wouldn't they
wouldn't allow a refinery like

1765
01:48:56,670 --> 01:48:57,630
that in their area.

1766
01:48:58,530 --> 01:49:03,330
So anyway, from this site, now,
I started to do some research. I

1767
01:49:03,330 --> 01:49:08,790
bumped across to oh, by the way,
one other thing, Monsanto, those

1768
01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:12,240
nice folks. Where's my jingle
for them? I haven't used that in

1769
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:16,920
such a long time here. Yeah, you
lost it. They're so nice.

1770
01:49:17,130 --> 01:49:20,760
They're helping out the
Haitians, they. They sent them

1771
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:25,770
475 tonnes of genetically
modified seeds. Thank you,

1772
01:49:25,770 --> 01:49:31,500
Monsanto. That sounds sweet of
you. That's so nice. So from

1773
01:49:31,500 --> 01:49:36,630
this site, I bump around and I'm
on some Haitian probation sites.

1774
01:49:37,020 --> 01:49:39,870
And I come across something
called the United States

1775
01:49:39,900 --> 01:49:44,250
Institute of Peace. Have you
ever heard of this?

1776
01:49:44,460 --> 01:49:47,880
I did. And I only heard of it
but they had him on C span once

1777
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:51,150
and I tried to get some clips
from speech the guy was giving

1778
01:49:51,150 --> 01:49:54,420
but it was so dull. I didn't get
anything.

1779
01:49:54,510 --> 01:49:58,470
Well, these guys and they have a
beautiful building, by the way.

1780
01:49:58,500 --> 01:50:02,040
Oh, they're loaded with money.
Oh, Oh, and by the way, there's

1781
01:50:02,070 --> 01:50:07,440
the Congress pays for him. So
it's us, we're basically paying

1782
01:50:07,440 --> 01:50:12,780
for it. It's just it's amazing
what they are the one, no, we

1783
01:50:12,780 --> 01:50:16,020
have to be everywhere and help
people to propagate peace. We

1784
01:50:16,020 --> 01:50:22,800
are obligated peace. We provide
a hold on. The United States of

1785
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:25,410
peace is an independent,
nonpartisan institution

1786
01:50:25,410 --> 01:50:27,780
established and funded by
Congress to increase the

1787
01:50:27,780 --> 01:50:31,080
nation's capacity to manage
international conflict without

1788
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:37,260
violence. So they're all over
Haiti. And then from that, I

1789
01:50:37,260 --> 01:50:44,430
jumped to the International
Crisis Group. Oh, my God. This

1790
01:50:44,430 --> 01:50:48,330
is an amazing thing, working to
prevent conflict worldwide

1791
01:50:48,330 --> 01:50:51,930
because they're aligned with the
United States Institute of

1792
01:50:51,930 --> 01:50:57,930
Peace. And then you look at the
Crisis Group, and their board of

1793
01:50:57,930 --> 01:51:01,860
trustees. Well, I should just
mention a couple of them.

1794
01:51:02,070 --> 01:51:05,040
Let me guess are all One World
Government guys? Oh, yeah.

1795
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:06,420
George Soros.

1796
01:51:06,660 --> 01:51:15,540
Ah, Kofi Annan. Zbigniew
Brzezinski. Your buddy, all the

1797
01:51:15,540 --> 01:51:19,890
dudes are in here. It's like,
it's just it's an amazing, it's

1798
01:51:20,220 --> 01:51:20,700
great.

1799
01:51:21,060 --> 01:51:22,440
It's a great drinking club.

1800
01:51:22,500 --> 01:51:26,970
It is a great drinking club.
It's just amazing. And so

1801
01:51:26,970 --> 01:51:29,940
they're they're all involved
with helping Haiti and keeping

1802
01:51:29,940 --> 01:51:34,230
the peace and let's, let's say
where the other developers are

1803
01:51:34,230 --> 01:51:38,610
becoming impatient.
Unbelievable. So anyway, I want

1804
01:51:38,610 --> 01:51:42,630
to thank Kevin flake for doing
that research and that all of

1805
01:51:42,630 --> 01:51:46,320
the those links are all in the
show notes. Pretty Pretty

1806
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:54,600
amazing. And we had a we had a
to to the head as well, which

1807
01:51:54,600 --> 01:52:02,400
was kind of interesting. Russian
scientist, who was at Fermilab

1808
01:52:02,430 --> 01:52:03,840
knew what Fermilab is

1809
01:52:06,540 --> 01:52:08,580
I Fermilab at

1810
01:52:08,580 --> 01:52:13,710
Fermilab is, I think it's the
it's a it's a collider.

1811
01:52:15,300 --> 01:52:16,290
Oh, maybe Yeah,

1812
01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:21,960
yeah, I think it's maybe this
second largest. Police. So what

1813
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:22,590
happened is

1814
01:52:22,590 --> 01:52:24,870
me been shot by someone from the
future.

1815
01:52:26,370 --> 01:52:32,130
Well, no, actually, it's a she.
And 24 year old visiting Russian

1816
01:52:32,130 --> 01:52:40,620
scientist Maria Bellroy Vaughn.
And she fell to her death in the

1817
01:52:40,620 --> 01:52:45,540
atrium. It's their favourite way
of doing it. The not quite sure

1818
01:52:45,540 --> 01:52:50,670
how it happened. But yeah, she
fell off the stairs into the

1819
01:52:50,670 --> 01:52:57,330
atrium of the Fermilab. And, of
course, she died 16 storey

1820
01:52:57,330 --> 01:53:00,840
buildings, several bridges, you
know, one of these beautiful,

1821
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:06,090
beautiful hadron collider type
things. And so of course, the

1822
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:09,180
all of the conspiracy nuts who
are crazier than I am, are out

1823
01:53:09,180 --> 01:53:13,500
there saying, Oh, she had
information about the the

1824
01:53:13,500 --> 01:53:18,570
weaponization of these
colliders. I'll put a link in

1825
01:53:18,570 --> 01:53:25,260
the shownotes about that. But
it's it's interesting that a 24

1826
01:53:25,260 --> 01:53:28,140
year old Russian scientist
stumbles and falls to her

1827
01:53:28,140 --> 01:53:33,810
untimely death in the atrium. It
happens all the time.

1828
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:37,080
Yeah, it does. They should did
any more safety features on

1829
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:38,970
these things. It's really,

1830
01:53:39,660 --> 01:53:45,000
and big props to a guy I've met
once I spoke with him for a

1831
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:49,650
couple of hours. His name is
Jung poate. And he is a real

1832
01:53:49,650 --> 01:53:52,980
estate developer from the
Netherlands. And he got into a

1833
01:53:52,980 --> 01:53:57,780
huge public fight a number of
years ago, because his idea is a

1834
01:53:57,780 --> 01:54:02,730
very rich guy. His idea was to
create something called chips

1835
01:54:02,730 --> 01:54:06,570
hole. So you have staple, which
is the airport, and they have

1836
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:08,940
all this real estate. I mean,
that airport is really a real

1837
01:54:08,940 --> 01:54:12,990
estate project. And he wanted to
put in office buildings. He

1838
01:54:12,990 --> 01:54:16,050
wanted Cisco to be there. He had
all the contracts he had,

1839
01:54:16,050 --> 01:54:19,440
everything was all set. He was
good to go. And then the

1840
01:54:19,440 --> 01:54:23,250
government just pushed him out.
It's well documented, you know

1841
01:54:23,250 --> 01:54:28,200
that he sued them. The judges
were kind of losing ground, the

1842
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:32,010
Ministry of Justice, switch the
judges on him. There was all

1843
01:54:32,010 --> 01:54:35,820
kinds of crazy shit going on. So
this guy is definitely a

1844
01:54:35,820 --> 01:54:41,070
radical. He's very, very smart.
He's probably about 60 or 70

1845
01:54:41,070 --> 01:54:45,060
years old now, so he doesn't
give a rat's ass. He took out a

1846
01:54:45,060 --> 01:54:51,090
full page ad in in one of the
Gitmo nation, lowlands

1847
01:54:51,090 --> 01:54:56,280
newspapers and basically said,
the Ministry of Justice is crap.

1848
01:54:56,460 --> 01:55:02,760
And why are you protecting the
paedophile? Yeah, yep. This is

1849
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:08,550
the the director general of
justice, who has admitted that

1850
01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:15,120
he's a paedophile but he's still
in, in his, in his position, so

1851
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:19,440
to speak. And, and he basically
is saying, You know what, I have

1852
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:22,590
a whole dossier here. If you
guys don't play by the rules,

1853
01:55:22,590 --> 01:55:25,260
neither will I am going to
release all the information.

1854
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:29,730
Oh, well, he's gonna be dead
shortly. Yeah, well, we'll see.

1855
01:55:29,850 --> 01:55:33,690
I do backups all over the place
ready to go to be dropped into

1856
01:55:33,690 --> 01:55:35,340
the public domain. That's what
you got to do.

1857
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,100
Well, the thing is, is all this
information is in the public

1858
01:55:38,100 --> 01:55:41,550
domain. Everybody knows it.
Except he might have some new

1859
01:55:41,550 --> 01:55:44,910
stuff. It doesn't matter. I
mean, the the media won't reply.

1860
01:55:45,330 --> 01:55:45,990
By the way, what

1861
01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:46,710
good is it done?

1862
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:49,920
The media doesn't report on it.
They don't care. And really

1863
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:50,400
don't.

1864
01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:54,300
So I got a couple more things
here before we finish.

1865
01:55:54,510 --> 01:55:57,420
Yes. Oh, well, I want one
moment. Just whistle for a

1866
01:55:57,420 --> 01:55:58,140
second John.

1867
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:03,120
Why am I breaking up?

1868
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:07,290
Um, Nikki has a very important
meeting. So I wanted to give her

1869
01:56:07,290 --> 01:56:12,540
some extra love bombing. Okay.

1870
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:19,200
We're back. We're back. We're
back. We're back.

1871
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:26,070
I'm like a human Theramin
whatever that is. Yeah, you

1872
01:56:26,070 --> 01:56:29,640
should look it up. Here's
something that bothers me if you

1873
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:33,030
notice that the way the media
has switched around the I want

1874
01:56:33,030 --> 01:56:39,930
you to play I got a clip here
from Keith older man who was

1875
01:56:39,930 --> 01:56:42,750
talking with jazz John Dean on
and he mentioned something

1876
01:56:42,750 --> 01:56:45,750
interesting I we can play the
whole clip or part of the clip,

1877
01:56:45,750 --> 01:56:48,270
but he probably should play the
whole thing. But it's about this

1878
01:56:48,270 --> 01:56:50,730
Miranda rights thing which
people keep talking about, and

1879
01:56:50,730 --> 01:56:54,450
holders come out and said, Well,
you know, we've got your whether

1880
01:56:54,450 --> 01:56:58,140
we should deal with, you know,
some criminal as a terrorist or

1881
01:56:58,140 --> 01:56:58,410
not?

1882
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:03,150
Well, so this this, let me help
you set this up. There is now

1883
01:57:03,150 --> 01:57:09,720
the what are they belligerent
come combatant terrorist

1884
01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:13,020
homegrown act or something
that's been proposed. So

1885
01:57:13,020 --> 01:57:15,810
basically, if you talk crap
about the government, you're

1886
01:57:15,810 --> 01:57:24,210
belligerent, not only will will
your Miranda Miranda rights, but

1887
01:57:24,210 --> 01:57:27,510
they're actually talking now
about the Secretary or Secretary

1888
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:31,830
of State, being able to take
away your citizenship, which of

1889
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:35,340
course is the end around the
Miranda rights? Because first

1890
01:57:35,340 --> 01:57:37,590
you take away your citizenship?
Oh, no, I don't know. I don't

1891
01:57:37,590 --> 01:57:38,790
have Miranda rights.

1892
01:57:38,850 --> 01:57:41,460
Well, the thing that's really
going on, it seems to me is

1893
01:57:41,460 --> 01:57:45,600
they're actually and if you just
listen to the news, and you hear

1894
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:49,770
the complaining about oh, you
know, John McCain, part of this

1895
01:57:49,770 --> 01:57:53,610
whole ridiculous situation? Oh,
they read him his Miranda

1896
01:57:53,610 --> 01:57:55,680
rights. They shouldn't have done
that it would have been better.

1897
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:58,350
Why are they reading him his
Miranda rights. And so we think

1898
01:57:58,350 --> 01:58:01,320
that the debate is about whether
you should read somebody's their

1899
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:04,830
Miranda rights. But when you
start looking into it, and John

1900
01:58:04,830 --> 01:58:07,710
Dean, I think points this out on
this little clip I've got here

1901
01:58:07,710 --> 01:58:12,390
from the Keith older man show
who is Dean, John Dean's a

1902
01:58:12,390 --> 01:58:16,260
former White House Counsel under
Nixon, and he's basically a

1903
01:58:16,260 --> 01:58:18,810
writer and I think he's
connected. So

1904
01:58:18,810 --> 01:58:20,700
either Are you being ageist?

1905
01:58:22,470 --> 01:58:27,840
What Keith older man? Yeah. It's
old sir. Right? No, I just think

1906
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:33,570
it's a funny pun. Yeah. Okay. So
I mean, I'm John older man.

1907
01:58:33,870 --> 01:58:37,500
Okay. So anyway, they, but we,
here's what I'm trying to get

1908
01:58:37,500 --> 01:58:39,750
at, which is they keep talking
about reading the room reading

1909
01:58:39,750 --> 01:58:42,600
the rights reading the rights.
No, they're talking about

1910
01:58:42,930 --> 01:58:46,260
eliminating these rights. In
other words, even if you read

1911
01:58:46,260 --> 01:58:49,740
them or not, you say I want a
lawyer. They say Screw you, you

1912
01:58:49,740 --> 01:58:53,820
got no right to a lawyer. That's
what's going on. They're trying

1913
01:58:53,820 --> 01:58:57,240
to pull and hold as part of
this, pull the entire Miranda

1914
01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:59,880
rights thing. Now, it's not
about reading the rights. It's

1915
01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:03,000
about having the rights. And
nobody's talking about it

1916
01:59:03,030 --> 01:59:06,240
looks like context with this new
threat. I think we have to give

1917
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:09,240
serious consideration to at
least modifying that public

1918
01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:11,280
safety exception. And that's one
of the things that I think we're

1919
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:13,350
going to be reaching out to
Congress to do to come up with a

1920
01:59:13,350 --> 01:59:16,500
proposal that is both
constitutional. But that is also

1921
01:59:16,500 --> 01:59:19,650
relevant to our time and the
threat that we now face.

1922
01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:22,500
No indication that a broader
exception to Miranda based on

1923
01:59:22,500 --> 01:59:24,990
international terrorism would
even satisfy those bending the

1924
01:59:24,990 --> 01:59:27,870
issue for political purposes,
who do not want terror suspects

1925
01:59:27,870 --> 01:59:30,660
at all put through our nation's
criminal justice system. Rudy

1926
01:59:30,660 --> 01:59:33,720
Giuliani, for instance,
supported holder's proposal, he

1927
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:37,740
said it would. It would still be
better to hold suspects like

1928
01:59:37,740 --> 01:59:41,280
Shahzad as military detainees.
Giuliani joins the likes of

1929
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,260
Senator Lindsey Graham and
Senator Joe Lieberman, who have

1930
01:59:43,260 --> 01:59:46,680
offered various ideas about how
to discard Miranda rights in the

1931
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:49,800
case of a terror suspect. Let's
bring in his promise former

1932
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:52,890
White House counsel now
columnist for five law.com John

1933
01:59:52,890 --> 01:59:55,530
Dean, also the author of blind
ambition, John, good evening.

1934
01:59:56,790 --> 01:59:59,430
Good evening. Are we clear yet
to any degree what holder's

1935
01:59:59,430 --> 02:00:00,960
proposing here Do you have any
idea?

1936
02:00:02,370 --> 02:00:05,310
Well, I actually caught the
clips and then thought that

1937
02:00:05,310 --> 02:00:07,500
isn't very clear. So I went back
and looked at the entire

1938
02:00:07,500 --> 02:00:10,950
transcript. And I wasn't clear
at first if he was really

1939
02:00:10,950 --> 02:00:14,220
responding just to leading
questions, and or if he'd

1940
02:00:14,220 --> 02:00:17,130
actually had some proposal that
he had in mind at the Justice

1941
02:00:17,130 --> 02:00:19,530
Department, it appears the
ladder, although I don't think

1942
02:00:19,530 --> 02:00:23,790
he was ready to announce it on
Sunday, but rather it was forced

1943
02:00:23,790 --> 02:00:25,050
out because of the question.

1944
02:00:25,740 --> 02:00:29,310
It would seem as if a public
safety exception to Miranda

1945
02:00:29,310 --> 02:00:32,460
wouldn't be enough of a
dilution. And we just saw its

1946
02:00:32,460 --> 02:00:37,020
effectiveness in practical real
time circumstances in New York

1947
02:00:37,140 --> 02:00:41,400
in the capture and arrest and
interrogation of Shahzad What

1948
02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:43,560
Why would anybody think that's
not sufficient?

1949
02:00:44,850 --> 02:00:47,850
Well, it's certainly good
political grandstanding. I do

1950
02:00:47,850 --> 02:00:50,640
the right has been hammering on
this on how tough they are on

1951
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:54,660
terrorism, how weak the
Democrats are, so they keep

1952
02:00:54,660 --> 02:00:57,510
pounding that drum. It looks
like Mr. Holder and the

1953
02:00:57,510 --> 02:00:59,610
administration is trying to
respond to that they're never

1954
02:00:59,610 --> 02:01:02,910
going to satisfy it. In fact, we
don't need legislation there's

1955
02:01:02,910 --> 02:01:05,460
no evidence that Miranda has
ever been a problem for law

1956
02:01:05,460 --> 02:01:08,340
enforcement. There's no evidence
that it's a problem now with

1957
02:01:08,370 --> 02:01:11,880
terrorism there's no evidence
they need anything more than the

1958
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:13,320
exception and they already have

1959
02:01:13,919 --> 02:01:17,279
in 2000 of the Supreme Court
addressed the Miranda case or a

1960
02:01:17,279 --> 02:01:18,299
case it was supposed to

1961
02:01:19,230 --> 02:01:20,880
yes pretty outrageous.

1962
02:01:21,510 --> 02:01:25,350
Yeah, there's basically you know
want to be able to arrest you

1963
02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:29,400
give you you have no rights to
an attorney probably tried to

1964
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:31,860
you know, just throw you in a
slammer beat the crap audio or

1965
02:01:31,860 --> 02:01:32,370
whatever.

1966
02:01:32,789 --> 02:01:36,959
What happens is a van pulls up
they throw a hood over your head

1967
02:01:36,959 --> 02:01:38,789
and you're gone. never heard
from again.

1968
02:01:39,450 --> 02:01:41,940
Yeah. perfectly legal.

1969
02:01:42,749 --> 02:01:46,289
And I'm telling you that Hillary
Clinton she's doing something

1970
02:01:46,289 --> 02:01:48,599
with this take away your
citizenship. That's it. That's a

1971
02:01:48,599 --> 02:01:53,909
part of a John Yeah, just take
away. That's that's the easy way

1972
02:01:53,909 --> 02:01:56,969
around who needs legislation if
if Hillary Clinton and say,

1973
02:01:57,299 --> 02:02:01,799
you're no longer a citizen, what
a crazy world we live in. It

1974
02:02:01,799 --> 02:02:04,619
turns out President Obama has a
social security number from

1975
02:02:04,619 --> 02:02:08,369
Connecticut where he's never
worked. So we're still in

1976
02:02:08,369 --> 02:02:13,589
dispute whether he's an actual
natural born citizen and someone

1977
02:02:13,589 --> 02:02:17,069
like me and you who were born
here. We just got out you're not

1978
02:02:17,069 --> 02:02:19,679
a citizen anymore in the
slammer, you go rendition

1979
02:02:19,679 --> 02:02:20,099
flight.

1980
02:02:23,010 --> 02:02:27,120
That's where it's leading. So
now I have one last clip. I have

1981
02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:29,460
a bunch, but I think there's one
that's kind of interesting.

1982
02:02:29,670 --> 02:02:33,990
Talking about weird laws.
There's a new story that took

1983
02:02:33,990 --> 02:02:36,270
place in the Bay Area's code,
the clip is secretly

1984
02:02:36,270 --> 02:02:39,930
videotaping. And tell me if you
don't find this kind of weird.

1985
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:43,080
Fight Time now for looking at
stories making headlines around

1986
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:46,560
the Bay Area tonight. San Jose
man is accused of secretly

1987
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:49,800
videotaping women's body parts
while they were grocery

1988
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:53,430
shopping. And off duty sheriff's
deputy noticed it happening at

1989
02:02:53,430 --> 02:02:57,480
the Dunn Avenue Safeway in
Morgan Hill. The deputy ended up

1990
02:02:57,480 --> 02:03:01,470
in a struggle on the ground with
a suspect Juan Rodriguez. The

1991
02:03:01,470 --> 02:03:05,280
Safeway customer help the deputy
make the arrest. Rodriguez is

1992
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:09,060
accused of using a concealed
camera for sexual gratification

1993
02:03:09,330 --> 02:03:13,740
and battery of a law enforcement
officer. Lottery investigators

1994
02:03:13,740 --> 02:03:14,520
are cracking down.

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02:03:16,710 --> 02:03:19,620
Is that is that is that new

1996
02:03:19,950 --> 02:03:23,970
day? Apparently it is. I've
never heard of videotaping for

1997
02:03:24,030 --> 02:03:26,340
the purpose of sexual morality
only heard again,

1998
02:03:26,370 --> 02:03:29,850
Rodriguez. A Safeway customer
helped the deputy make the

1999
02:03:29,850 --> 02:03:33,750
arrest. Rodriguez is accused of
using a concealed camera for

2000
02:03:33,750 --> 02:03:35,250
sexual gratification

2001
02:03:35,490 --> 02:03:40,290
using a concealed camera for
sexual gratification. I love it.

2002
02:03:42,090 --> 02:03:45,870
That's how is this? This is you
can't do anything. What about

2003
02:03:45,870 --> 02:03:48,540
just looking at somebody for
sexual gratification,

2004
02:03:48,570 --> 02:03:52,920
that'll be illegal next. In
fact, I have an end clip for the

2005
02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:59,400
show, which I want to play as
we're winding it down. And this

2006
02:03:59,430 --> 02:04:03,840
is, of course, we've talked a
lot about how you can't show,

2007
02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:07,980
you know big breasted women in
Australia. There's

2008
02:04:08,700 --> 02:04:11,490
no small breasted. It's a pet of
sorry, small

2009
02:04:11,490 --> 02:04:16,650
breasted Exactly. There's all
kinds of weird stuff. And this

2010
02:04:16,650 --> 02:04:21,840
clip is about how women young
women are essentially

2011
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:25,770
manipulating themselves not
manipulating but what's the word

2012
02:04:25,770 --> 02:04:33,210
I'm looking for? I don't know
that getting laby ectomy Slavia

2013
02:04:33,210 --> 02:04:34,320
activities.

2014
02:04:35,970 --> 02:04:38,970
They are why they are mutilating
themselves mutilating the word

2015
02:04:38,970 --> 02:04:39,510
word Thank you

2016
02:04:39,540 --> 02:04:43,830
mutilating. Well, because they
think that that's what a

2017
02:04:43,830 --> 02:04:47,430
beautiful vagina is supposed to
look like. Because because

2018
02:04:47,430 --> 02:04:50,430
they've shown all these fake
vaginas that have been

2019
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:54,720
photoshopped, and, you know,
there's different ways of

2020
02:04:54,720 --> 02:04:58,410
shooting this. So I was like,
Oh, my vagina is ugly. I have to

2021
02:04:58,410 --> 02:05:03,510
get stuff chopped off. It's
crazy and it's a video of course

2022
02:05:03,510 --> 02:05:08,460
you'll be able to see that on no
agenda tv.com Caution not safe

2023
02:05:08,460 --> 02:05:12,210
for work at all you actually see
one of these operations taking

2024
02:05:12,210 --> 02:05:15,900
guys I'm not going to look at it
but when you hear the audio it's

2025
02:05:15,900 --> 02:05:19,110
it's interesting enough so you
don't have to actually to

2026
02:05:19,110 --> 02:05:24,600
actually look at it. But ah, so
we get all this goes back to

2027
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:31,530
your nudity is porn. It's all
it's just not so stuff.

2028
02:05:33,180 --> 02:05:35,550
It's not getting any better. All
right, then.

2029
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:42,930
Producers Zach. responded to the
Philadelphia Pennsylvania tax

2030
02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:46,050
amnesty ads. We just play that
again real quick because it's so

2031
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:50,190
we have now posted on the
divorce.org site and everyplace

2032
02:05:50,190 --> 02:05:51,570
else it's disgusting. My

2033
02:05:51,570 --> 02:05:55,830
name is Tom. You live just off
of Fifth Street. Nice car, Tom.

2034
02:05:55,860 --> 02:06:01,830
Nice house. What's not so nice
is you owe Pennsylvania $4,212

2035
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:07,110
in back taxes. Listen, Tom, we
can make this easy. Pay online

2036
02:06:07,110 --> 02:06:11,400
by June 18. Then we'll skip your
penalty and take half off your

2037
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:16,260
interest. Because Tom, we do
know who you are.

2038
02:06:18,570 --> 02:06:22,650
Find us before we find you. So
Zach made a call to the

2039
02:06:22,650 --> 02:06:25,050
Pennsylvania Department of
Revenue and got switched to

2040
02:06:25,050 --> 02:06:27,600
their public relations office.
The woman there said it was the

2041
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:32,400
Neiman group that devised the
intimidating ad campaign. The

2042
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:36,690
woman unnamed claimed that focus
groups were done. And these

2043
02:06:36,690 --> 02:06:41,760
focus groups approved of the
plan focus groups Yay. Oh, yeah.

2044
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:44,580
Focus groups are useless. Yeah,
she wouldn't tell them who were

2045
02:06:44,580 --> 02:06:47,310
in the groups or where they were
held. The ad campaign was part

2046
02:06:47,310 --> 02:06:50,190
of a budget deal Governor
Rendell, who is the guy who got

2047
02:06:50,190 --> 02:06:53,610
a kick out of office,
Pennsylvania. A part of a budget

2048
02:06:53,610 --> 02:06:57,120
deal Governor Rendell signed off
in October 2009. The entire

2049
02:06:57,120 --> 02:07:02,610
campaign including website and
TV ads cost $3 million. But she

2050
02:07:02,610 --> 02:07:08,310
said they were hoping to recoup
$190 million from the 3% of

2051
02:07:08,310 --> 02:07:12,360
taxpayers who don't pay their
state taxes. Niemann group

2052
02:07:12,360 --> 02:07:16,500
located in Harrisburg and Philly
I call them says Zach was told

2053
02:07:16,500 --> 02:07:21,360
to speak with Monica Witter. She
wasn't in so I emailed emailed

2054
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:25,170
her list of questions. Her email
is in the shownotes. She has she

2055
02:07:25,170 --> 02:07:28,980
hasn't responded yet. The claim
in the following stories that

2056
02:07:28,980 --> 02:07:32,700
the ads are working and then as
a story that they've already

2057
02:07:33,270 --> 02:07:36,690
collected $12 million. So I
guess the Shut up slave thing

2058
02:07:36,690 --> 02:07:37,380
works.

2059
02:07:38,370 --> 02:07:40,560
Yeah, maybe this group is ahead
of the game.

2060
02:07:42,330 --> 02:07:47,490
It's what's common ladies and
gentlemen. And then a quick

2061
02:07:47,490 --> 02:07:51,870
little note from Shawn. He heard
us on the cheating gene meme.

2062
02:07:53,340 --> 02:07:58,530
And he said, Hey, maybe we can
put this National Enquirer story

2063
02:07:58,530 --> 02:08:02,730
that's going around about Barack
Obama cheating. Maybe they're

2064
02:08:02,730 --> 02:08:06,450
preparing to hit us with the
news that he has the cheat gene.

2065
02:08:08,220 --> 02:08:14,580
And, and of course, vaccine
coming soon. Stop your man from

2066
02:08:14,580 --> 02:08:19,860
cheating. Pay your taxes. Make
your vagina look pretty. And do

2067
02:08:19,860 --> 02:08:22,620
the right thing. Yes, that's
what you shipped more money to

2068
02:08:22,620 --> 02:08:29,580
Haiti. shyster show up and take
advantage of people's good. It's

2069
02:08:29,580 --> 02:08:36,630
called a labia plasti. Right.
It's very interesting to listen

2070
02:08:36,630 --> 02:08:40,440
to because they're drawing some
of the right conclusions but

2071
02:08:40,980 --> 02:08:46,380
doctors who do this are a little
frightening. So anyway,

2072
02:08:46,919 --> 02:08:48,119
doctors are in it for the money

2073
02:08:48,210 --> 02:08:53,280
you thank. Thanks, everybody for
hanging in there. Throughout

2074
02:08:53,340 --> 02:08:56,580
this programme, it was difficult
if you're on the stream, we're

2075
02:08:56,580 --> 02:08:59,460
going to put a little I yeah, I
edited the two pieces together.

2076
02:08:59,490 --> 02:09:02,820
Of course, thanks to nerdy dude
for recording the first piece

2077
02:09:02,820 --> 02:09:06,840
off the stream. So I got some
splicing work to do. And I'll be

2078
02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:09,720
doing that here in the hilltop
Watchtower crackpot command

2079
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:13,500
centre and get my nation West in
the People's Republic of

2080
02:09:13,500 --> 02:09:15,930
Southern California. Yay. My
name is Adam curry.

2081
02:09:16,590 --> 02:09:20,100
And from Northern Silicon Valley
where the sun is shining except

2082
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:22,530
when it isn't. I'm John C.
Dvorak

2083
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:26,160
will talk to you again on Sunday
early morning service for

2084
02:09:26,160 --> 02:09:33,180
episode 200. Remember
devora.org/deus right here are

2085
02:09:33,180 --> 02:09:33,870
no agenda.

2086
02:09:47,790 --> 02:09:52,500
This video presentation has been
classified by the ABC as M. It

2087
02:09:52,500 --> 02:09:56,160
contains material that is not
recommended for persons under 15

2088
02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:56,730
years.

2089
02:09:58,110 --> 02:10:00,990
I need to warn you that this
next story can names, footage of

2090
02:10:00,990 --> 02:10:03,630
genitals and surgical operations
that some of you may find

2091
02:10:03,630 --> 02:10:07,470
confronting. There's one part of
the female body that most of us

2092
02:10:07,470 --> 02:10:09,990
have seen way more often in
pictures than we have in real

2093
02:10:09,990 --> 02:10:13,950
life, but has censorship skewed
our idea of what a normal vagina

2094
02:10:13,950 --> 02:10:16,980
looks like and could it be
contributing to a new trend in

2095
02:10:16,980 --> 02:10:18,060
cosmetic surgery

2096
02:10:26,190 --> 02:10:28,740
just getting rid of these
protruding bits here.

2097
02:10:30,270 --> 02:10:36,330
Let me place the term given to
the surgical improvement of

2098
02:10:37,140 --> 02:10:42,180
female labia which are the lips
of the female genitalia.

2099
02:10:44,280 --> 02:10:48,420
This will generally be healed to
a single crease, which is the

2100
02:10:48,420 --> 02:10:51,420
terminology I've heard used
before in the industry

2101
02:10:52,050 --> 02:10:55,920
that are either done with a
scalpel or with scissors that

2102
02:10:55,920 --> 02:10:59,970
you would take just the
pendulous part of the labia.

2103
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:03,510
So this be just made up into a
single crease where you just

2104
02:11:03,510 --> 02:11:05,550
can't really see any the inner
labia.

2105
02:11:06,540 --> 02:11:09,870
Each of these men have jobs
which require them to trim the

2106
02:11:09,870 --> 02:11:15,240
labia menorah that's the inner
lips of vaginas. One of them is

2107
02:11:15,240 --> 02:11:18,600
a graphic designer at a soft
porn mag who has asked that we

2108
02:11:18,600 --> 02:11:22,800
conceal his identity. We have
replaced his voice. The other is

2109
02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:23,880
a plastic surgeon

2110
02:11:23,910 --> 02:11:27,690
what you would see most of the
time in the media and in the

2111
02:11:27,720 --> 02:11:30,930
published literature is
something like this. Closed

2112
02:11:30,930 --> 02:11:32,580
labia majora,

2113
02:11:33,090 --> 02:11:35,820
could there be a connection
between the two roles

2114
02:11:40,590 --> 02:11:43,320
Labiaplasty is becoming
increasingly popular in

2115
02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:46,320
Australia growing at a much
faster rate than other cosmetic

2116
02:11:46,320 --> 02:11:50,070
surgeries. Experts say there are
a number of reasons for this

2117
02:11:50,070 --> 02:11:53,340
trend, but we think there's one
that's been overlooked. And

2118
02:11:53,340 --> 02:12:01,410
that's censorship. In Australia,
unrestricted soft porn mags.

2119
02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:05,340
That's M 15. Plus ones such as
penthouse picture and people are

2120
02:12:05,340 --> 02:12:09,060
allowed to show frontal nudity
but only discrete genital

2121
02:12:09,060 --> 02:12:14,190
detail. But what if your
genitals aren't as discreet as

2122
02:12:14,190 --> 02:12:16,920
the Classification Board would
like them to be?

2123
02:12:19,380 --> 02:12:22,140
The same as saying what does a
normal face look like? Or what

2124
02:12:22,140 --> 02:12:25,740
is a normal nose look like?
They're all look normal. They

2125
02:12:25,740 --> 02:12:30,180
all look like a vagina. But you
know you get different in the

2126
02:12:30,240 --> 02:12:33,990
filling of the labia majora,
different pigmentation,

2127
02:12:33,990 --> 02:12:38,610
different areas of the labia
menorah, which are a little bit

2128
02:12:38,610 --> 02:12:43,440
more pendulous. The clitoral
hood might be a little bit more

2129
02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:49,260
folded on itself. One can't
really say that there is a norm.

2130
02:12:50,580 --> 02:12:54,840
That's right, folks, not all
personalities look like this. So

2131
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:58,020
why then is this the only kind
ever shown in soft porn?

2132
02:13:00,390 --> 02:13:04,020
To the stuff that's the outside
of the lips of the vagina here.

2133
02:13:04,620 --> 02:13:07,710
That would be defined as very
detailed. And so to avoid

2134
02:13:07,710 --> 02:13:11,100
getting busted by the censorship
board, we just take all this

2135
02:13:11,100 --> 02:13:11,370
out.

2136
02:13:13,320 --> 02:13:17,220
We don't instruct clients how to
edit their magazines. It's their

2137
02:13:17,220 --> 02:13:20,250
commercial decision if they want
to particularly image in a

2138
02:13:20,400 --> 02:13:22,440
particular classification.
That's their commercial

2139
02:13:22,440 --> 02:13:22,920
decision.

2140
02:13:23,100 --> 02:13:26,850
So would the board not allow in
an unrestricted publication

2141
02:13:26,850 --> 02:13:29,790
image of a woman who had
protruding inner labia?

2142
02:13:30,660 --> 02:13:34,740
Not necessarily but saying that
to maybe depending upon the

2143
02:13:34,740 --> 02:13:35,340
pose?

2144
02:13:37,050 --> 02:13:41,340
The magazines say otherwise. We
spoke to Brad voxel former

2145
02:13:41,340 --> 02:13:44,070
editor of the picture magazine
for seven years and later

2146
02:13:44,070 --> 02:13:47,520
publisher of picture and people
magazines. He had this to say

2147
02:13:47,999 --> 02:13:51,569
the only acceptable vagina as
far as the Classification Board

2148
02:13:51,569 --> 02:13:55,259
is concerned is one that's neat
and tidy in their eyes. They

2149
02:13:55,259 --> 02:13:58,829
basically consider the labia
menorah to offensive for soft

2150
02:13:58,829 --> 02:13:59,309
porn.

2151
02:14:02,550 --> 02:14:05,730
Off the record, a number of
men's mag insiders including a

2152
02:14:05,730 --> 02:14:10,320
current editor confirmed this
claim. This is only 12 tested,

2153
02:14:10,350 --> 02:14:13,620
we took our own theories of
pussy portraits, different women

2154
02:14:13,650 --> 02:14:17,220
all photographed in exactly the
same way to the board. Well,

2155
02:14:17,220 --> 02:14:17,340
they

2156
02:14:17,340 --> 02:14:19,650
will possibly be allowed, I
think.

2157
02:14:19,860 --> 02:14:24,300
Okay, and how about this?
Possibly this one,

2158
02:14:24,659 --> 02:14:28,529
possibly the quarter? It's hard
to say again without

2159
02:14:28,530 --> 02:14:29,880
so Why do you hesitate a little
more?

2160
02:14:31,170 --> 02:14:34,560
Clearly, there's more general
detail in that pitch. But I know

2161
02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:36,120
what you're saying. I know he's
saying put it to

2162
02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:38,400
the magazines that that they're
doing this for commercial

2163
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:42,420
reasons and they vigorously deny
that they resent they say they

2164
02:14:42,420 --> 02:14:45,720
resent having to heal things to
a single crease and that they're

2165
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:48,780
certainly not doing it for the
taste to suit the tastes of

2166
02:14:48,780 --> 02:14:51,990
their readership. As far as
they're concerned, this is

2167
02:14:52,020 --> 02:14:56,310
absolutely a classification
issue. Well, that's their

2168
02:14:56,310 --> 02:14:56,730
opinion.

2169
02:15:01,860 --> 02:15:05,280
The Classification Board can
spin in any way they like. But

2170
02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:08,760
the effect of their decisions is
that all but one particular body

2171
02:15:08,760 --> 02:15:11,490
type is too rude to be shown in
soft porn.

2172
02:15:13,170 --> 02:15:17,940
Loving, most women don't really
examine other people's vaginas.

2173
02:15:17,940 --> 02:15:21,990
And so they don't really have an
idea except from literature. And

2174
02:15:21,990 --> 02:15:25,800
you don't see the normal range
because all people that are see

2175
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:30,630
fall into a normal range, but
they have issues with it looking

2176
02:15:30,630 --> 02:15:36,270
a little bit untidy or too bulky
or you know, to pendulous. So

2177
02:15:36,270 --> 02:15:41,610
that I think is a major reason
why people sort of seek out

2178
02:15:41,700 --> 02:15:46,260
improving the little bit. So I
suppose for want of a better

2179
02:15:46,260 --> 02:15:46,650
word.

2180
02:15:48,120 --> 02:15:51,150
What's happening here is far
more than just photoshopping out

2181
02:15:51,150 --> 02:15:54,870
blemishes. It's actually
removing a part of the human

2182
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:55,350
body.

2183
02:15:55,830 --> 02:15:58,110
While obviously would be better
if we didn't have to do it. I

2184
02:15:58,110 --> 02:16:01,590
mean, this is reality, and we're
messing with reality. This is

2185
02:16:01,590 --> 02:16:02,700
what people actually look like.

2186
02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:06,630
For every woman who thinks
surgery because she thinks she

2187
02:16:06,630 --> 02:16:09,540
looks abnormal. There are many
more who are embarrassed and

2188
02:16:09,540 --> 02:16:13,800
self conscious about having Livy
lady bits. If the classification

2189
02:16:13,800 --> 02:16:16,350
guidelines are preventing a
certain body type from being

2190
02:16:16,350 --> 02:16:24,420
shown, then maybe they should be
reviewed. You can see extended

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interviews with the
Classification Board with the

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magazine graphic designer and
with Dr. kemenah on our website.

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And yeah, we know that
technically, the external female

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genitalia is called the vulva
and that the vagina refers to

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the inside bit. We just wanted
to use common language so that

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we didn't confuse people. Plus,
we just like saying vagina,

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vagina. Oh my god over here.
Nothing to see. Look at that.