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Well, it is time for the
programme that comes from two

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different parts of the world.
They've got a lot, Dave. They're

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lacking a lot. Oh man is the
worst intro I've ever done. No

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jingles, no commercials, maybe
in a phone call here or there.

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But still, it's no agenda coming
to you from the United Kingdom

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in the curry manner. I'm Adam
curry.

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And I'm from the United States
of America and Northern

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California where it's going to
be another beautiful 70 deep 70

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degrees on February. And I'm
John C. Dvorak.

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And I can't pretend John I can't
pretend that we didn't just

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start the whole show over again
because something went wrong

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with the recording I just gotta
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you put a new rig together and
apparently the things that

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Junker

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well it's not but it's you know,
when you're on the cutting edge

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of technology and that's
essentially exactly where I live

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Yeah, of course you get cut all
the time because I'm living on

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the edge of what software can do
with the hardware available and

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it's so close and yet so far yes
so far away and getting better

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but the it's you said to sound
like I had a loose wire but it's

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not it's the software breaking
up and the CPU load is going up

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something is dragging down
system resource. I know what the

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hell is going on, but it's
upsetting to say the least.

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Yeah, I gotta Well, I suppose my
rig as it were is just it looks

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like a nest it looks like a
rat's nest.

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You mean with wires and shit?
Oh, there's

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wires everywhere. So stuff on
the floor. I can't I can't even

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vacuum in here because it will
suck the wires up and then

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disconnect something. It's just
a mess.

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I found part of the problem.

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I don't know what to do.

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Part of the problem is Firefox.
Sucking up resources that have

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you tried Firefox three? Yeah,
well, but I need a browser

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during the show don't I? Know I
don't think so. When we're

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talking about stuff I want to be
able to bring up Okay, careful

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that Firefox doesn't lock onto
one of those sites that starts

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you know, where it's I've had
situations where I've killed

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Firefox, and this machine still
grinding away. And then I go

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look at the Task Manager with
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and

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there's still so be running go
running. Yeah, I've had that

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happen

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doing what I love. I know man.

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They come out with with a new
version version three. I love

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that. Oh, that was straight from
the heart, John. Oh,

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it's you know, luckily, they
upgraded it to beta three, which

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is a little better. But this
still has this weird problem,

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which gives you an error message
I blogged this I believe it says

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divorce.org/blog It says we are
going from a encrypted page or

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secure whatever it is page to an
unencrypted page. Yeah. It gives

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you a big message

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and that okay? This warning,
Please be informed about this.

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And you say no,

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no, it doesn't give you the no
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want to affirm what they're
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interrupting your session.

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We can't get rid of it. God
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No, you kidding me?

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Anyway, so I don't know what
they're thinking.

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So we talked about Valentine's
Day briefly. Yeah, we started

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off here.

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This was the show part of the
show everyone missed it was

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actually quite good. Maybe the
best stuff we've ever done.

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But it's gone. Sorry, it's gone
forever. History

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you did ask about Valentine's
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I wasn't a big stick in the mud
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in this phoney baloney holiday
because I'm a cynic. Yes, but I

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I told you that I did take part
which I did by sending an SMS

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message to my wife because it
was the biggest is a world

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record breaking day for SMS
messages as predicted by the

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phone companies something like
2.5 billion messages were sent

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on Valentine's Day.

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I think that's a that's a sign
of the times and probably a good

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thing. Although effectively it's
reduced spending because now you

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know you get away with sending a
text message instead of the

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traditional flowers and
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as I did I took my wife to the
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Stars

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get Wha what is that

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dancing with this you know
Dancing with the Stars the TV

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show? Yeah so they in the UK
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Dancing with the format
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arena tour with a couple of the
celebrity couples and a couple

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of the the judges who are
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basically do the TV show in an
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entertaining

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it's actually entertaining and
and I just feel like a schmuck

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sitting there watching people
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no but I got into the show you
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dance it's it's fun if there
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between Patricia and I we would
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yeah you don't dancer.

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No, I am I like to dance. I'm a
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how's your pasta? Doble? John is
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when I was a kid that
differences I mean, I don't do a

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lot of dancing obviously. But
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required in grammar school to
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of these things that they don't
teach kids anymore. They don't

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teach kids, the kind of the
stuff that people miss out on

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this. When we were kids, we were
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chequebooks. We were taught
civics and ethic how to tie.

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We're taught how to type we were
taught penmanship, we were

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taught how to dance. And one of
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was, we learned everything from
square that would wonders like a

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whole year of square dancing,
square dancing, Tango Mambo,

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everything is free form
rock'n'roll dancing, which was,

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you know, some sort of a
horrible thing to them. So you'd

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learn all this stuff in school?
I don't know. They don't do that

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anymore.

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Now there's a lot of stuff. Oh,
man, there's a lot of stuff they

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don't do anymore in that regard.

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We used to have a gym class
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around, they still have gym
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have it every day. And a lot of
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The kids don't get enough of a
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music lessons. So we had music
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lessons where you had to play
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That was an option you could and
there's a lot of kids who did

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but nowadays is I have two music
departments don't even don't

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even have them anymore. Well, of
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the point of it is why they even
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no,

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it's the Department of Education
wants to keep us dumb, John, you

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know that. That's how that's
that's the main thrust here.

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So one of the things that people
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about, we actually will do this
when it's more natural, but

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we're talking about morning
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fact that you didn't realise
that Dennis Miller was a right

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wing talk show host so

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I made the comment, I think I
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definitely not left wing. But
wasn't he on Air America for a

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while.

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I don't think he ever was on Air
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that fear. I thought he did the
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that off into syndication. And

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well, that's really because I
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America because it was dreadful.
I mean, they didn't get it. I

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mean, and some of it was like
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listened to it. I mean, I
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different things. But Air
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there's one woman I think that's
that was a standout. And I can't

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remember her name. And she was
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everybody else was fawning all
over each other. They were

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politically correct. They were
gushing over each other. It was

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pathetic.

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Yeah, that doesn't work.

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So anyway, I wanted to talk
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mean, we don't I don't try to
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I was waiting, because you were
uploading daily source code.

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Yeah. And trying to fix this
piece of shit set up that sounds

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like crap and is gonna make us
unhappy with the actual show.

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It doesn't sound that bad.
Anyway, so I, when I was in New

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York the last time and I just I
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decided to do a little research
on this. So when I was in New

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York last week, or a couple of
weeks ago, I went to the place I

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always go when I'm in New York,
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specifically is which is the
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downtown. Oh, I

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love that place. You can get all
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really cheap.

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So true or not true or not.

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from Long Island the way you're
delivering, but it's true. Yeah,

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no, it's absolutely true. It's a
it's an amazing place. Anyway,

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so I so I'm going through there
and one of the things I always

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do they have a lot of
collectible ties, dirt cheap

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from big designers and I have a
tight collection even though I

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don't use them much nowadays,
because ties are not in but so I

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walk in by the to leave and then
there's a success and I could

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use some some more socks and I
was looking at the they have

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this bowl toe which is the you
know this big brand of socks all

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over the US

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that's the sock Goldco gotta
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And they had cashmere, a three
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like $4 for three for three pair
and it was marked down from like

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50 bucks or something. So I
said, Wow, I gotta buy these. So

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I bought a set. And of course
now I realise why they were

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marked down to $4 and irregulars
are messed up. Now it's like I

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fact I have them on now. This is
what brought to mind. They're

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really soft. And you can if you
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socks, you can literally find
the socks by feel alone. Except

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that when you put them on
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cashmere, it's it's like it
doesn't have any structure. And

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so the sod basically falls apart
on your foot. And it's like

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they're upside down within just
a couple of minutes. You know,

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they just don't they're not
snug. They can't stay there.

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It's just a it's a disaster. So,
but but in the process since I

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was waiting for you to finish
the source code, I look up

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obviously gold toasts. What is
the history of this company and

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is it appear Only a company that
was the great American Knitting

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Mills. And they started making
socks, like, you know, before

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the depression, and they still
make these gold toe socks in

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North Carolina. They're not a
Chinese product. And I realised

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is one of the last things we
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are socks, socks, we make we
make ammo and socks, everybody

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that's that's our claim to fame.

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Yes, we make bombs and we make
socks. And I couldn't find any

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evidence of the I have
outsourced the sock making. And

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they've exactly expanded
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well, the sock business, you
know, it's like, what was the

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line? Plastic son? That's the
future?

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Well, socks apparently are too.
But anyway, so the gold toe is a

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really an outstanding product, I
think because I mean, I realised

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that most of my socks, probably
90% of them are black and gold

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toe socks. And you know,
sometimes there's a mix and

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match problem because they do
have longer ones and shorter

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ones, and some that have
slightly different combination

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of fabrics. But do you?

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Do you do your own laundry? Do
you wash your own socks?

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Generally speaking, yes. Except
sometimes if the bunch of

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laundry gets backed up. There's
a couple of services that I just

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take, I just pile everything
into a truck and drop it off

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there. And then I get it all
sorted it because you know what

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happens with the socks? Of
course, if anybody knows,

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especially if you do your own
laundry, is that you end up with

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I have a box of about 150 single
socks that have no mate.

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Exactly. This is where I was
going. Because I whenever I come

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back from San Francisco, I
almost every single time I do

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the laundry, and because that
really scores big here at home.

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And man, those socks, it's like
you got to have like a spot

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where you can lay them all out.
You can look at him you can

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because I'm a little colorblind.
And it's hard, man. It's hard to

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find the matches, and then
always is like, wait a minute,

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I'm fucking missing one. One.
Yeah, but every laundry is like,

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well, well, I won't go into the
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that's the thing that's cool
about gold toes is that you just

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keep buying them. Costco has
them and just keep buying them

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and buy them and then pretty
soon, yeah, okay, so I'm missing

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a lot of socks, but I have a lot
of combinations of the same, you

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know, two gold toes that
happened to be black. And, you

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know, eventually I made but it's
still I'm still tempted,

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unfortunately, to like,
especially when it's century 21.

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I go by, like, there'll be like
the sock rack. And they'll be

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like a really cool looking pair
of socks that are made by you

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know, some designer, Donna
Karan. And so you grab the pair

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because one of these are cool.
And you wear them a couple of

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times, and you always lose one
of the two. And that's the end

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of it, you know, there's one
sock is just as loner. And then

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the worst part is, is that one
side gets into one batch of

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laundry and the other side gets
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the other out of sync, they're
out of sync, they're out of sync

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because one

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of them is soaked up some colour
from one of the batches and you

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hold the two of them up. They
don't even look the same

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anymore. It's like, you know,
this is a dilemma of modern

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life. Yeah,

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fuck I hate it.

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No, really, I wish I could just
have all the same socks and it

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would make any difference.

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Oh, you know that you can see
that? Just by gold toes. So

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anyway, I was thinking about
that. And I did that you can go

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to gold toes.com. Of course, if
you want to look at the history

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of this company look right. And
I also found that they had sued

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some they're one of the first
companies that had sued in 2000

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they sued gold dash toes.com and
some other derivative name

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through icon the internet naming
guys. And one one of the first

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cases of like, beating a
squatter out of the name because

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it wasn't theirs to have.

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What's the address? It's not
gold toes.com

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Try gold toe.com Then

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go toe.

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Can't believe I'm actually doing
this. Oh, there you go.

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enlighten your feet. Now 25%
off.

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Now I'm reminded that I don't
want to jump into gonna take the

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conversation off in this
direction because of the

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underwear. But the I'm reminded
the first time I went to England

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was in 1973. And I met somebody
on the Dunkirk fairy actually

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who I was hanging out with this
girl. And she turned me on to

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the AI to the concept and then I
checked it out from other people

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that the place to get underwear
specifically. briefs was Marks

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and Spencer. Yeah. Which which
for some reason is called marks

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and sparks as a as a diminutive
and I don't have any idea where

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that comes from. But anyway,
that's what locals call it.

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that's what we call it here
marks and sparks is it just

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rhymes. That's why.

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Well, whatever the case it's a
huge chain and I don't think the

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quality is what it was back in
the 70s By the way, but anyway,

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they would have you could buy
this underwear briefs. and I

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were you know, briefs as opposed
to boxer shorts.

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I information that really didn't
need a made,

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they're made with Egyptian
cotton. And the stuff is

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unbelievable. Now over over the
years, they've expanded and you

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can find some of these briefs
that aren't made with Egyptian

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cotton, although the Israeli
stuff looks pretty good, but

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there's stuff I've seen now from
all over the place in some of

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the bands break that stuff, it's
the quality has gone way

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downhill. But back in the 70s,
when they were the peak of their

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quality time, they also had a T
shirts that they sold,

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specifically, and they don't do
this anymore. By the way, you

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can't find this any more than I
know, have. They had wool T

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shirts. Now I bought a couple of
them, I still have them, they

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they're still you wouldn't even
know they're this old. It's, it

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was an unbelievable product. I
think if the if they had kept

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making wool T shirts, the t
shirt business, there wouldn't

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be a t shirt business because
these things, I guess can go

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5060 years without wearing out.
It's It's an unbelievable

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product.

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Well, yeah, but you know, I hate
to do it to you. But that's all

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part of the consumption. Theory,
John, we've got to make products

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that break early. Hence, T
shirts made of right, but

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they they The point is, is that
they used to make a product that

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didn't break at all. And that
was no good t shirt. And the

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underwear for that matter, you
know, some of those that

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underwear from that. I mean, it
was just amazing. I mean, this

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stuff was just last like
forever. And now of course, you

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know, this stuff is made in
India, it's not as good

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when, when Ron and I had our
previous company, think new

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ideas. We were part of the a
bunch of agencies that launched

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the new Gillette Mach three
razor. And they had this huge

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briefing at Gillette
headquarters, and nearly all the

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agencies were there. And you
know, they went through the, you

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know, they showed that, you
know, the pack, the product pack

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and all this stuff, you know,
stuff that you really don't care

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about too much, because we just
wanted to build a cool website

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was in Flash anime animation.
But at one point, someone they

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talked about the blades because
they had this new diamond

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encrusted platinum, something or
other. And someone in the, in

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the basically this auditorium,
one of the people of the agency

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said, oh, so we can talk about
these blades and how much better

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they are and longer they last
and was like, boom, complete

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silence. And then now the Chief
Marketing Officer of Gillette

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says, We never, ever, ever talk
about how long our blades last.

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We have a nice little coloured
strip on top, which could be an

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indication for you as to when
you might want to get a new

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blade, but we never ever talk
about how long the blades last.

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And I know people who have used
the same blade for years, I've

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never gotten a replacement. And
it still kind of works.

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Well you know, there's there
used to be kind of in the in the

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folklore of the consumer world,
a belief and I think it's I

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think it may be true that when
they came out when they come out

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with a new razor, whether it's
shake or Gillette or whomever

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the razor that you get when the
new one comes out is so sharp,

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that you could use it probably
forever and it's the replacement

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blades that they start to dull
down like someone said they just

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turned down the knob and they
made they make them less and

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less sharp so they don't work as
long as to get people to go to

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the next new new razor. So I
generally only buy with you I

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usually buy complete
replacements so I buy the razor

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with a couple of blades brand
new, and I believe I could be

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wrong, but I believe that those
blades and that razor brand new

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are going to last longer than
buying replacement blades for

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any of the razors even though it
costs maybe three a couple of

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two or three bucks more to get
another razor so I end up

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throwing a lot of razors out

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to what kind of razor Do you
what brand What do you use?

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i Right now I'm using the
Gillette the one with the four

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things in that little trimmer
deal. It's a five bladed deal

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it's got Yeah, it's got you know
it's got a million blades

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and that's the one that vibrates
or do you get the non

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vibrating one just seemed kind
of creepy to me.

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I didn't get it works for me. I
really think there's a different

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vibrator. John, that's my job
and who's making the jokes

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around here. Ah, dammit.

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This is my take well up or
English version. Matthew Pugin

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calling from Slovenia. I'm
looking to BSE and no agenda and

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the last time you had no agenda
with John C. Dvorak. You made me

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really love. Actually he did. He
was commenting about Slovenia

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and how we eat shitload of
horses here. And actually it's

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true to certain extent, and
where we eat a lot of it and

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yes, we don't talk a lot about
it. Unless I'm purchase such as

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yours. Know that each city has
have sort of a fast food thing

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that you go after clubbing like
late Saturday night early Sunday

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morning like the bar or
something. While in Ljubljana,

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the capital of Slovenia, we have
a thing called Hot horse. And

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it's actually the thing where
all the clovers end up at 567

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AM. And you guessed from the
name what they're serving hot

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horse. Anyway 31

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I loved it hot horse. There's an
actual fast food joint called

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hot hot horse where they sell
horse meat

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in there and they said to me,
Hey, John, we're gonna go club

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and then afterwards we're gonna
get some hot whores. Oh,

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you misunderstood.

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Yeah, now you're talking baby.

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So I was a little surprised and
dismayed. So the other the other

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thing I want to mention about
Slovenia since we have the one

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listener, and I find that I find
this to be kind of interesting

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and actually Slovenia in lots of
parts of Croatian, most of that,

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that Adriatic area. What's
notable when you're driving

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around the area is the number of
chickens that are just out and

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about. I guess they don't quite
have the same kind of predators

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out there that we might have
here. But it's interesting to me

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that they have all these
chickens that we have chickens

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up in Washington, and we've
actually had chickens in the bay

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area you can have chickens
legally, and you chicken eggs

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that are made from chickens are
just roaming around the yard are

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astonishingly delicious, and
they taste like a real egg. And

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it's amazing chickens can crank
out this many A's but it seems

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to me that the Slovenians in
particular must eat a lot of

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eggs because those chickens they
all they're all around but then

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they obviously go home to roost
at night and then they lay eggs

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all over the place I would think
and but it's just I thought it

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was just cool to just see
nothing but everybody's chickens

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there's no fences around a lot
of their places at all and it

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just chickens everywhere you
drive along the road to be

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chickens everywhere it's it's
pretty funny.

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Well, I've never been to
Slovenia but we'd love it

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certainly sounds like a good
place to go for chickens in

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horse

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the horse yeah but the actually
where what they have there

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that's pretty astonishing is
pastries. I don't think there's

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a

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What were you doing in Slovenia?
John? What how were you there?

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Yeah, I went to I've actually
been through Slovenia a few

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times because I write for bug
magazine and Croatia for one

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thing and so that's on the other
side of Slovenia so you really

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can't get there on the train
without going through Slovenia.

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And but the first time I went
there was when PC Magazine had a

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licensee in Slovenia because the
guys in Croatia had lost a

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licence in PC Magazine sold at
this publishing company in

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Slovenia and I went there for
the party that they were rolling

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out and so I got to you know,
kind of party as it were in

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Slovenia with a hot host.
Meanwhile, of course because of

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that the bug magazine could hire
me because there was no

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licencing in Croatian so I ended
up getting kind of another gig

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there so meanwhile, I've made
pretty good friends and Croatia

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is another place that people
want to go to a vacation just a

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dream come true vacations by Wow
That country is unbelievable.

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I've heard that and actually
we're thinking of going to

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Turkey next time next time

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to Turkey Turkey is getting a
little rough it seems to me

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really although For you it might
not be so much there is a an

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Istanbul there's a four seasons

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as long as there's a four
seasons and marks and sparks

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nearby we're set not a problem.

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So you could go to the Four
Seasons and kind of enjoy it

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from that perspective.

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I don't know I don't I don't
know when either

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way you're gonna buy a couple
rugs we'll get ready.

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No, no, no, I won't buy why we
went to a rack same thing. I

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didn't buy any rugs. They got
plenty of them for sale.

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Yeah, no, they got tonnes of
them for sale. I bought two rugs

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when I was in Turkey. And what
was interesting to buy and by

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the way the rug salesmen follow
you over here that's how

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aggressive they are. They
literally they follow you they

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write I get called once a year
from one of the rug companies

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over the turkey that they did
come into the US they got an out

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they got to store house
somewhere in outside of Beverly

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Hills and they drive a truck
around to all their customers.

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And they pass you to buy more
rugs some unbelievable Bobby

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Reggie and need crazy. It's
pretty funny. But the weird

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thing is that they can fold
these rugs up into them and put

446
00:24:30,210 --> 00:24:33,150
them in this weird little
suitcases that you can carry on

447
00:24:33,150 --> 00:24:35,490
the plane because that's the way
you want to ship. Do you want to

448
00:24:35,490 --> 00:24:39,300
bring the rug back by hand?
Carry on? Oh, man,

449
00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:41,460
you know that you're just asking
for trouble with today's

450
00:24:41,490 --> 00:24:42,540
security measures.

451
00:24:44,670 --> 00:24:46,230
You check it check luggage.

452
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,390
Yeah. So you okay, I have a
problem. Okay, well,

453
00:24:51,419 --> 00:24:53,699
maybe I will. I mean, I can't

454
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:57,600
wait by the way. Monday is my
time again.

455
00:24:59,220 --> 00:25:01,050
Oh, yeah, right. You're going
The back. So you're gonna go

456
00:25:01,050 --> 00:25:03,210
through another process, but
you're coming into San Francisco

457
00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:03,660
again, right?

458
00:25:03,690 --> 00:25:05,940
Yeah. Which is always the easier
airport, but you know, I'm gonna

459
00:25:05,940 --> 00:25:09,060
get stopped, you're gonna get
the W or the M or whatever the

460
00:25:09,060 --> 00:25:09,600
hell it is.

461
00:25:09,630 --> 00:25:12,690
Yeah, well, why don't you not go
to San Francisco? Once you're

462
00:25:12,690 --> 00:25:15,360
flying to LA and then come up?
There? Thanks. So

463
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,920
we're going to a website,

464
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:19,830
I think a website describing the
different airport entry

465
00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:23,880
procedures. That's actually not
a bad idea. Yeah, and it would

466
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,700
tell people what to avoid. And
you know, it'd be nice if you

467
00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:29,400
could serve Tisha Slee take
pictures of people, but you

468
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,200
know, they throw you out if you
do that. But I was always told

469
00:25:35,130 --> 00:25:40,650
by rule, do not go to the woman
customs officer, or passport

470
00:25:40,650 --> 00:25:43,350
officer. Just don't do it never
go to the woman.

471
00:25:43,860 --> 00:25:46,950
There aren't that many in San
Francisco. I think it's mainly

472
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:50,010
guys, and maybe one or two
women. But I think it's all

473
00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:50,520
guys.

474
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,930
Yeah, I think San Francisco is
not at issue. But there's some

475
00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:57,450
places where there's quite a few
women. And then you the rule is

476
00:25:57,450 --> 00:26:02,490
do not go to the women. And the
reason is, because they they go

477
00:26:02,490 --> 00:26:03,690
by the book more than the men
do.

478
00:26:04,890 --> 00:26:07,620
That sounds pretty, pretty.
That's a pretty generous

479
00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:08,370
statement.

480
00:26:08,850 --> 00:26:11,580
I'm just telling you what I'm
told. I don't necessarily agree

481
00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:15,510
with it. Okay. You don't go to
the women. Your reliability is

482
00:26:15,870 --> 00:26:21,930
on the safe side. All right. So
I got my stuff out of the way

483
00:26:21,930 --> 00:26:24,420
got the chicken story, I needed
to get that out of the way. That

484
00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:25,110
was important.

485
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:27,810
I didn't get to do my top 40
thing again.

486
00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:31,620
You mean the voice? Yeah, that's
all right. I

487
00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:33,930
don't want to do the voice.
Because when you hear this show,

488
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,570
you're gonna hear how should
you're going to hear how shitty

489
00:26:36,570 --> 00:26:40,110
this sounds. And it's just, it's
pissing me off. I can't

490
00:26:40,110 --> 00:26:42,150
concentrate. I can't even
concentrate on doing the show.

491
00:26:42,420 --> 00:26:44,520
Because I'm hearing all this
crackling. And I don't know

492
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,830
where it's coming from. And I
don't understand it. And it's,

493
00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:52,080
why did you change your gear?
Because I'm tired of having to

494
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,770
have a second, like two laptops,
one to work on, which is the Mac

495
00:26:55,770 --> 00:26:58,770
and then the only thing that was
really reliable up until now was

496
00:26:58,770 --> 00:27:00,840
CASP. blaster, and I had to have
a secondary, you know, like

497
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,410
windows? Yeah, I know, I can run
parallels or bootcamp or all

498
00:27:04,410 --> 00:27:07,680
that crap. I just wanted it all
in one and I wanted you know, I

499
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,770
wanted something where the
processing is in the computer

500
00:27:10,770 --> 00:27:13,380
cast blaster doesn't have that.
You have to, you know, there's

501
00:27:13,380 --> 00:27:16,770
no, there's no digital
processing. For this very

502
00:27:16,770 --> 00:27:20,640
reason, of course, because it
always starts to mysteriously

503
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,100
Android. It could also be the
hard drive. You know, Mac hard

504
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:26,670
drives can get sick if you use
really big files a lot.

505
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:29,340
So you're telling me you're
doing this? This is the first

506
00:27:29,370 --> 00:27:31,350
time we've done no agenda on a
Mac?

507
00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:33,180
No, no, no, we did it last time.

508
00:27:34,110 --> 00:27:35,850
But no, what's changed? I don't

509
00:27:35,850 --> 00:27:40,950
know. It's that's a big, big
mystery. And it's, it's it's

510
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:41,820
stupefying.

511
00:27:42,330 --> 00:27:44,850
Have you had an upgrade? Because
Apple had a couple of upgrades,

512
00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:46,800
like notice last week? Oh,
that's

513
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,210
a good point. John. Fuck. There
was this it was this week? I

514
00:27:51,210 --> 00:28:01,590
think. So So Oh, dude. Well,
that's it, then. How do I roll

515
00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:05,430
back? How do I roll back and
update? I don't I don't think I

516
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:10,620
can. You could do it on Windows,
you can roll back. Yeah. If

517
00:28:10,620 --> 00:28:12,030
you're John C. Dvorak, you can

518
00:28:12,060 --> 00:28:14,460
No, no, anyone can just it's
designed in?

519
00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:20,760
Well, I guess, I guess I could
go to my Time Machine Backup and

520
00:28:20,790 --> 00:28:23,040
Restore. But that seems like
that's going to be out that

521
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,700
would be a whole week.

522
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:26,670
I wonder if that actually works
to that extreme where it

523
00:28:26,670 --> 00:28:31,590
actually takes and read and
takes the operating system and

524
00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:33,180
backs it up? I don't think so.
But what's

525
00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:36,990
crazy, John is I just did the
daily source code. And I

526
00:28:37,020 --> 00:28:39,780
everything was completely tuned
and tweaked and it was all

527
00:28:39,780 --> 00:28:43,620
perfect. And then we start doing
the show and it's all messed up.

528
00:28:43,710 --> 00:28:44,550
I don't get it.

529
00:28:45,870 --> 00:28:48,660
Maybe the daily source code
contaminated the machine.

530
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:52,890
Now I'm seeing if it's because I
added you I'm seeing if that's

531
00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:58,740
it, but now daily source code
contaminate the machine. Fuck

532
00:28:58,740 --> 00:28:59,130
you.

533
00:28:59,550 --> 00:29:00,540
That took you a while?

534
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,020
Yeah. Wow. That's how distracted
I am. This is really bugging

535
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,530
God.

536
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,290
Why don't we put a stopwatch on?
Yeah.

537
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,020
All right. So I'm gonna try and
do cranky geeks with you on

538
00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:11,670
Wednesday. Is that the deal for
this week?

539
00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:14,220
I would hope so. Yeah, that'd be
good. Because we're gonna have

540
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,060
Leo currently scheduled and you
should be on and that would

541
00:29:18,750 --> 00:29:21,870
kind of be a fun show. Yeah. And
I

542
00:29:22,350 --> 00:29:25,140
don't read the memo and don't
read the news.

543
00:29:25,169 --> 00:29:28,529
i Oh, what do you mean, I always
come prepared. I'll read the

544
00:29:28,529 --> 00:29:28,919
memo.

545
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,170
Well, you're the only one
because I don't so it's

546
00:29:31,170 --> 00:29:34,110
so Sebastian Sebastian is always
on the show, right?

547
00:29:34,590 --> 00:29:37,950
Yes, he's the He's the number
one go to guy. Okay. Cool. This

548
00:29:37,950 --> 00:29:40,830
shows a interesting structure
for people who watch it. I

549
00:29:40,830 --> 00:29:44,250
designed it specifically why I
didn't completely design it from

550
00:29:44,460 --> 00:29:47,820
scratch but I designed it to
have less people because I've

551
00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:50,730
always felt that uh, one of
these types of talk shows that

552
00:29:50,730 --> 00:29:54,510
have a host and for people to
for half an hour. One person

553
00:29:54,510 --> 00:29:58,020
never gets to say anything
right. And you know, and then

554
00:29:58,020 --> 00:30:01,920
and it's also causes a weird
day. namak because it's kind of

555
00:30:01,950 --> 00:30:05,490
unbalanced. And so you don't get
a free flow of information when

556
00:30:05,490 --> 00:30:09,810
you only have three people. You
get a year the banter can be a

557
00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:10,560
lot more

558
00:30:10,590 --> 00:30:13,200
aggressive. And you've got a
shell because Sebastian is

559
00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:14,910
essentially a shill. But the
great

560
00:30:14,910 --> 00:30:17,880
The great thing is I really only
have two people, because

561
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,110
Sebastian isn't really on the
show. He's the shill, sidekick,

562
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:25,230
and the go to guy and what it
amount which is that which is

563
00:30:25,230 --> 00:30:29,160
the Tweak on the on this model,
because and what makes it

564
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,030
interesting as a tweak is that
if you have two guests that are

565
00:30:33,030 --> 00:30:36,690
just duds, I've never actually
had to complete duds, but I've

566
00:30:36,690 --> 00:30:40,620
had two questionable guests,
Sebastian can literally and

567
00:30:40,620 --> 00:30:44,490
myself can carry the whole show.
And he can do it and he knows

568
00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:46,560
when to do it. And when you have
two people that are extremely

569
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,710
talkative, Sebastian knows to
back off and let these guys go

570
00:30:49,710 --> 00:30:52,740
after each other or whatever
they're doing. So they so they

571
00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:55,170
have that one, you know, so
essentially, it's a two man

572
00:30:55,170 --> 00:31:01,170
show. A presenter which would be
me, and then essentially a co

573
00:31:01,170 --> 00:31:05,760
host, who's who appears to be a
guest. He's not really a guest.

574
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,040
He's a co host, but he's
presented as a guest and so you

575
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,540
have this unusual model

576
00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:12,660
when you ruin it for me now the
show's not gonna be any more fun

577
00:31:12,660 --> 00:31:15,570
now that I know how it works. I
don't want to be on it now screw

578
00:31:15,570 --> 00:31:22,140
that Sebastian the show I'll say
Hey, John. Thanks. It's great to

579
00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:24,300
be on crack eats Leo. Good to
see you. Hey, Sebastian. The

580
00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:25,890
shill. Yeah. Hey, how you doing
man?

581
00:31:26,610 --> 00:31:29,580
Well, you know every show has
has an underlying model that

582
00:31:29,580 --> 00:31:31,950
makes it work. I mean, the show
that we're doing here no agenda.

583
00:31:31,950 --> 00:31:35,430
The model is there is no model.
But that's unusual. And that

584
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:38,550
only works with a couple of
blowhards like ourselves, who

585
00:31:38,550 --> 00:31:41,340
can like yakking away from about
stupid stuff? Well

586
00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:43,290
speak for yourself. You're the
one that's been yakking

587
00:31:43,290 --> 00:31:45,930
throughout the entire show. I
can't get a word in edgewise.

588
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:49,470
Yeah, well, I'm just because
you're sitting there obsessing

589
00:31:49,470 --> 00:31:51,270
with your crappy rig there that
you ruin.

590
00:31:51,390 --> 00:31:55,740
It's true. I ruined I just tried
to carry a carrier here. There

591
00:31:55,740 --> 00:31:58,890
was some there was some guy that
called in and said you could set

592
00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:03,060
this up on Windows. He did have
the setup, including the virtual

593
00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:06,990
video cables. Yeah, I'll send it
to you. I gotta dig it. Well, he

594
00:32:07,470 --> 00:32:07,980
went on. No, I

595
00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:10,590
didn't. So you too can have all
this aggravation. I just want

596
00:32:10,590 --> 00:32:11,880
you to someone to share it with.

597
00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:15,210
I'll be doing on Windows. It
won't be aggravating. What

598
00:32:15,210 --> 00:32:17,910
does it do it? Does Leo have a
whole studio he has a whole

599
00:32:17,910 --> 00:32:21,000
professional studio, right? He
just plugs in Skype into his

600
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,250
existing setup, I guess. Have
you ever seen it?

601
00:32:24,420 --> 00:32:28,320
I you know, I have to go up
there. Because he owes me lunch.

602
00:32:28,350 --> 00:32:31,470
He's been promising to take me
to this two star Michelin place

603
00:32:31,470 --> 00:32:35,310
up in Healdsburg. And I've been
wanting to go up there. And

604
00:32:35,310 --> 00:32:38,250
because this is apparently one
of the best restaurants in

605
00:32:38,250 --> 00:32:41,310
California, but it's a little
out of the way. And so I want to

606
00:32:41,310 --> 00:32:45,480
go up there and in the process,
I want to see the studio and

607
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,610
take some pictures of and see
what it is he is doing because I

608
00:32:47,610 --> 00:32:50,460
think he has a I think it's got
a Yeah, he's got a professional

609
00:32:50,460 --> 00:32:52,470
studio with a lot of gear.

610
00:32:53,070 --> 00:32:56,610
We'll see. That's for some
reason. I've always wanted to

611
00:32:56,610 --> 00:33:00,120
just have it all contained in
one box. That's just you know, I

612
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,910
could build a whole studio here
but I don't I just want a little

613
00:33:02,910 --> 00:33:07,290
fucking box. I just want it to
work. We've got all this audio

614
00:33:07,290 --> 00:33:09,330
is the last thing that people
always think about and

615
00:33:09,330 --> 00:33:12,990
everything these days they don't
give a shit. A lot of audio is

616
00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:17,130
bad. And Apple's got some good
things going on inside with

617
00:33:17,130 --> 00:33:20,040
their virtual devices and
aggregate devices and all that

618
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,890
but still it's it's it's just
not it's not enough horsepower

619
00:33:22,890 --> 00:33:25,110
going towards it. I don't know
it should be able to tweak that

620
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:28,230
I just want it all to work in
one portable man under my arm

621
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:30,990
wherever I am want to have the
same setup, same sound,

622
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,580
everything configured. So I
don't have to be like Leo

623
00:33:36,990 --> 00:33:37,860
stuck at home.

624
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:44,250
Roger McGuane has something like
that because he's got one. I

625
00:33:44,250 --> 00:33:47,370
think he's using a laptop,
Toshiba or something? I'm not

626
00:33:47,370 --> 00:33:50,280
sure maybe he's moved to a Mac.
But he has a rig like that that

627
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:56,460
he and I think the X rocker
Billy, whatever is the bill. I

628
00:33:56,460 --> 00:34:00,600
don't feel like they have these
rigs. I know Rogers has got like

629
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,950
he's got got a Roger has this
laptop was it with a little

630
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:07,800
built in mixer and he takes a
microphone.

631
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,900
But I've made a study, I've made
a study of this, John, what all

632
00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:15,870
of these things right? You've
got these USB microphones and

633
00:34:15,870 --> 00:34:19,920
USB direct in boxes and
everything, all of them, you

634
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,300
have to monitor. So if you're
recording just analogue audio,

635
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:29,190
something coming out of your
mouth or an analogue instrument,

636
00:34:29,910 --> 00:34:33,420
it's the monitoring of it always
occurs before it goes into the

637
00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:36,390
software. So you're basically
hearing an unprocessed signal,

638
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,240
and then on the mix. And
sometimes even because there's

639
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:42,600
delay, these programmes have
special digital delays built in

640
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,940
so it'll sync up because you
were basically singing or

641
00:34:44,940 --> 00:34:47,670
playing your acoustic guitar
along with a track and it was

642
00:34:47,670 --> 00:34:51,090
recorded like three milliseconds
later than what you're actually

643
00:34:51,090 --> 00:34:54,000
hearing. So there's all these
tricks and it works great for

644
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,050
producing music, but when you
actually want to process what

645
00:34:58,050 --> 00:35:00,990
you're saying at this very
moment and Listen to the process

646
00:35:00,990 --> 00:35:05,400
signal without a delay, which
makes you talk funny. It almost

647
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,460
can't be done. I mean, I'm right
on the edge of making it happen

648
00:35:08,460 --> 00:35:11,370
and for some reason that worked
earlier today, and now it

649
00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:16,050
doesn't and it's like Milla,
millimetres of CPU usage make

650
00:35:16,050 --> 00:35:19,680
all the difference and I just
can't figure it out. So there is

651
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,340
no one set up for this. It's
just not set up. No one's ever

652
00:35:23,340 --> 00:35:26,670
really thought about what it
will really take to make all of

653
00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:33,060
it work. Okay, I know you're
sad. I know you're sad for me.

654
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,150
So you're I'm glad you got that
out of your chest.

655
00:35:36,270 --> 00:35:40,050
Hey, was there anything from the
from the Barcelona conference?

656
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,040
Conference was anything anything
good?

657
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,460
Well, there was one piece of
news that I report on tech five

658
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:53,610
dot pod show.com figure get some
plugs in there. Apparently,

659
00:35:53,850 --> 00:35:57,180
Motorola was such a big
disappointment that the European

660
00:35:57,180 --> 00:36:01,680
presses rag on them cease
endlessly really. They had

661
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,490
nothing this is not a good
situation Motorola for some

662
00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:07,980
unknown reasons just seem to
fallen off the you know, they

663
00:36:07,980 --> 00:36:13,920
had Xander came in there and
took credit for the razor. But

664
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,230
it looks like that was on the
books before he got there and

665
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:20,490
then he couldn't do anything
there your next son guy, and

666
00:36:20,490 --> 00:36:23,730
then they fired him and gave him
like 100 million bucks to go

667
00:36:23,730 --> 00:36:27,630
away which is good work if you
can get it. And they've now

668
00:36:27,630 --> 00:36:29,850
there just seemed to be a
rudderless ship.

669
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:34,560
Where did wasn't the history of
Motorola and once they car

670
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,720
radios, no walkie talkie Oh

671
00:36:36,750 --> 00:36:41,640
roll. I was rolling radio. They
put me I think they made the

672
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,930
first car radio. And it may it
may prove it. They may have even

673
00:36:45,930 --> 00:36:47,850
done a record player or
something like that. Before

674
00:36:47,850 --> 00:36:50,520
that. I know there were these
we're talking about in the 20s

675
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,720
and 30s. That's how they got
started as a radio moto moto

676
00:36:54,750 --> 00:37:02,250
moto. Rolla Well, Victrola, you
know Victrola Motorola get it

677
00:37:02,430 --> 00:37:05,430
right now, you know, I guess
it's kind of anyone's gamble as

678
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:08,160
to where it's gonna go and what
people want. I'm still carrying

679
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,280
around multiple devices. You
know, they had it with the razor

680
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,820
it was it was a fashion
statement. And it actually

681
00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:19,770
brought back the clamshell
handsets. Because those were

682
00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:24,150
really popular for a while in
like the mid 90s. And then you

683
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:26,850
know what, everyone's lid
started flipping off, and you're

684
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,090
the speaker would break and it
was all kinds of everyone's

685
00:37:30,090 --> 00:37:30,210
like,

686
00:37:31,740 --> 00:37:34,350
aren't they the ones they
pioneer to popularise it with

687
00:37:34,350 --> 00:37:35,580
the start tag, Star

688
00:37:35,580 --> 00:37:38,460
tack, that's the one Yep, the
little star tag with the pullout

689
00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:39,030
antenna.

690
00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:42,240
And everybody had everyone who
had one, when they first came

691
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,090
out, they always show them off
to everybody, it was a people

692
00:37:45,090 --> 00:37:49,380
would gather around you if you
had one of these things. And

693
00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:52,110
then they you know, they kind of
modified and shrunk and shrunk

694
00:37:52,110 --> 00:37:54,090
and then they made one I
remember this because I was

695
00:37:54,090 --> 00:37:59,640
doing the that show, I was
working for Tech TV at the time.

696
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,330
And one of the guy was a guest
on my silicon spin show. And he

697
00:38:03,330 --> 00:38:06,390
came in with the newest version
of the star tack which

698
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:07,200
microtasks.

699
00:38:08,010 --> 00:38:09,060
Yeah, it was like a

700
00:38:10,770 --> 00:38:15,000
little, it was like the size of
a, I don't even know like if it

701
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,910
is small, it was at the size of
a small cigarette about the size

702
00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:23,160
of a Zippo lighter, only not as
wide. And it was just a little

703
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,830
bitty thing. And he opened it
up. And he would you could dial

704
00:38:25,830 --> 00:38:27,720
on it and the whole thing and
then you button you hold it up,

705
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:31,410
you look like an idiot holding
this little video to your ear.

706
00:38:31,650 --> 00:38:34,740
It was smaller than the typical
Bluetooth thing that you stick

707
00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:38,820
in your area. Right. And that
was like somehow mark the end of

708
00:38:38,820 --> 00:38:41,580
an era because that was like
That was so stupid.

709
00:38:41,610 --> 00:38:44,400
Well, Nokia had one of their own
at the time, which was also it

710
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,110
was imagined like the, you know,
the classic Nokia, like the 5350

711
00:38:49,110 --> 00:38:52,830
or whatever it is, you know, the
very classic robust Nokia that

712
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:54,990
everyone had, you could you
could drive a truck over and

713
00:38:54,990 --> 00:38:57,750
nothing would happen. So they
shrunk that down to the same

714
00:38:57,750 --> 00:39:00,300
size as the Microtech. I think
it came a couple of years later

715
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:02,970
actually. And weighed nothing.
You could literally you could

716
00:39:02,970 --> 00:39:06,300
stick it into the into that
weird pocket that you have on

717
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:10,230
your on your on your pants, on
your trousers, that little

718
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:12,720
pocket on the right hand side
that holds quarters. Yeah, that

719
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:16,890
one, you could stick it in there
literally. And any right and it

720
00:39:16,890 --> 00:39:19,620
was, you know, for weight and
stuff. It was great because it

721
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,580
you know, it was almost actually
I remember I had that one, but I

722
00:39:23,580 --> 00:39:26,250
gave it up for the matrix phone
because that was the next one

723
00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:29,010
that you had to have. Remember
the one they had in the matrix

724
00:39:29,010 --> 00:39:32,550
with the with the mouthpiece
that slid down that popped down

725
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:35,160
at the press? Right? I remember
that. Yeah. So we all had to

726
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,060
have that one. And anyway, so it
was years later the razor came

727
00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:41,400
out which is just a throwback. I
don't know, man. It's designed,

728
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:44,160
you know, look at look at the
iPhone. I mean, good, bad,

729
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,030
indifferent. You can't deny that
the concept and the design and

730
00:39:48,090 --> 00:39:50,850
and a lot of what it's doing is
just radically different than

731
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,050
what everyone else has.

732
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:57,510
Yeah, but people are now moaning
about it. Really? Yeah, I mean,

733
00:39:57,510 --> 00:40:00,570
I just did the cranky geek show
this last week. And Stan had

734
00:40:00,570 --> 00:40:06,300
Larry maggot on who's a
commentator for CBS. And he was

735
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:10,410
a local radio guy or something.
And he all he did was complained

736
00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:13,140
bitterly about the thing. And he
mainly talked about, I guess,

737
00:40:13,140 --> 00:40:16,740
part of the town where he lives,
about to lousy the fact that you

738
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:19,980
couldn't get a signal, which we
talked about before on this

739
00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:25,350
show. And so I pulled out my
Nokia, the one I have that Pato

740
00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:29,910
loaned me, which has the exact
same service he has on the

741
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:34,080
iPhone, and we booted him. And
we looked and I had a bar and a

742
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,360
half, because we were in the
studio, so you can't get a

743
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,310
signal in there. I had a bar and
a half, he couldn't get a signal

744
00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:38,730
at all.

745
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,360
Now, that's, well, that's just
the exact same service minor

746
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,410
inconvenience. A lot of a lot of
the stuff is really good now,

747
00:40:46,410 --> 00:40:48,240
but a lot of the others, I mean,
they can fix that. They'll

748
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:51,060
figure that out. We know we know
that they missed out

749
00:40:51,060 --> 00:40:53,070
you get I don't you know, they
got that metal case, I don't

750
00:40:53,070 --> 00:40:53,700
think helps.

751
00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:55,980
Well, that no, we went through
this John, there's a little

752
00:40:55,980 --> 00:41:00,030
plastic bit in the metal casing
where the antenna is supposed to

753
00:41:00,150 --> 00:41:03,630
be able to transmit receive
through the plastic bit, but

754
00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:05,670
it's just the design thing.
They'll figure that out. They

755
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:09,060
know they fix that. And once
that's working once they have

756
00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:14,310
the battery life up to a normal
person's work work day in Yeah,

757
00:41:14,310 --> 00:41:17,280
and then they get their 3g or wi
max or whatever they're going to

758
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,960
put into it. It'll be great.
Now,

759
00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:23,790
yeah, but then it'll be dated.
Now. Let's, which reminds me, I

760
00:41:23,790 --> 00:41:26,970
dated phones. If anyone gets a
chance, go to the register and

761
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,490
look up Andrew or Loski is
coverage of this phone

762
00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:36,060
conference, the world phone,
whatever that gets called Andrew

763
00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:41,580
or Loski. Andrew or Loski. He
does a very funny, I am going to

764
00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:44,460
give the story away. But it's
just worth reading from the

765
00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:49,200
structural perspective. He does
this product review of the Nokia

766
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,440
phone that is the absolute best
phone. You know, she says at the

767
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,080
conference and look at this
phone that Nokia has and he

768
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,030
shows a sight picture of it
shows and he talks about the

769
00:41:57,030 --> 00:42:01,410
battery life is battery life is
like a month. And it Talktime is

770
00:42:01,410 --> 00:42:03,990
like you know, a week and it's
got all these characteristics

771
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:06,450
and features and everything. And
then he reminds us that this was

772
00:42:06,450 --> 00:42:12,060
a 1995 phone that they don't
make anymore. He was actually

773
00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:13,710
quite it's quite a funny
article.

774
00:42:14,340 --> 00:42:19,920
So I was just googled him and
comic strip blogger. You know,

775
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:25,260
my my superfan or buddy, yeah,
he he has a page on on Andrew.

776
00:42:26,490 --> 00:42:29,940
Feel like this? Yeah, sure.
Andrew biography of

777
00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:33,210
Andrew or Loski. He is a citizen
of the UK, who now lives in San

778
00:42:33,210 --> 00:42:36,660
Francisco, USA, ancestors of
Andrew Loski were Polish

779
00:42:36,660 --> 00:42:39,690
citizens who stayed in the UK
after World War Two, because

780
00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:42,960
Poland was then occupied by the
Soviet Union. And some polls

781
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,720
didn't want to live under Soviet
occupation and stayed in the

782
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:53,370
West. Now that he says he works
for the register, the register

783
00:42:53,370 --> 00:42:56,610
is a dirty tabloid. And it shows
in many ways they are

784
00:42:56,610 --> 00:42:59,190
publishing, for example, without
permission emails that were

785
00:42:59,190 --> 00:43:02,220
intended as private. And also
they are publishing anonymous

786
00:43:02,220 --> 00:43:04,860
emails that contain offensive
content, even if information

787
00:43:04,860 --> 00:43:09,750
from these anonymous emails is
not confirmed as a lie. Okay. Go

788
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:10,710
see as be.

789
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,190
Yeah, it sounds like a pretty
accurate description. That

790
00:43:14,190 --> 00:43:16,830
sounds like Loski lives in
London. But that's another

791
00:43:16,830 --> 00:43:17,520
story. Well, I

792
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,590
this could be an old page could
be

793
00:43:23,340 --> 00:43:24,900
a comic strip blogger.

794
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:31,770
So what else we got on a list?
Um, we talked about the chickens

795
00:43:31,770 --> 00:43:33,330
and the marks and sparks.

796
00:43:33,390 --> 00:43:39,570
Yeah, we talked about. Sharon,
you when you hear this show,

797
00:43:39,570 --> 00:43:42,330
you're gonna understand why I'm
so distracted. You're just

798
00:43:42,330 --> 00:43:46,950
hearing yourself fine. You have
no idea what's going on. That

799
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:47,550
sucks.

800
00:43:47,850 --> 00:43:50,160
There was a thing in the news
that was interesting to date,

801
00:43:50,190 --> 00:43:53,940
but the Danish ISP that just
says screw you guys about Pirate

802
00:43:53,940 --> 00:43:55,950
Bay. We're not going to do
anything about it. I missed

803
00:43:55,950 --> 00:43:58,680
that. What was that? Is that in
the news over there at all?

804
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,200
No, that, you know, the news
hears about the three strikes

805
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,850
you're out rule. You heard about
that, right. You must have

806
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,570
there's no Tell me. Oh, there's
a green paper, which is kind of

807
00:44:09,570 --> 00:44:13,680
a a bill being written. So it's,
I think a trial balloon

808
00:44:13,710 --> 00:44:19,200
essentially, that the government
would would require UK ISPs to

809
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,680
monitor everyone's traffic. If
you it's a three strikes, you're

810
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,520
out. So if they're caught
downloading a file, illegally is

811
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,890
kind of the way they're
paraphrasing it the first time.

812
00:44:29,070 --> 00:44:31,320
Right, right. No, actually, I've
talked about this on tech five.

813
00:44:31,350 --> 00:44:33,030
Okay. I didn't know it's called
that though.

814
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:36,660
Well, of course, it's the you
know, in a country that knows

815
00:44:36,660 --> 00:44:39,030
nothing about baseball and
everything about cricket. Of

816
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:41,790
course they call it the three
strikes. You're out rule. Makes

817
00:44:41,790 --> 00:44:42,240
sense.

818
00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:46,260
So three strikes and you're out.

819
00:44:46,650 --> 00:44:48,990
They don't they don't notice
they don't play baseball over

820
00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:53,100
here. Dude. I have to explain to
people all the time, say

821
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,750
baseball. How does that work?
Okay. If you can explain cricket

822
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:59,220
to me, I can explain baseball.

823
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:01,830
Yeah, cricket Wow.

824
00:45:01,979 --> 00:45:04,259
Now forget it. You can't you
can't explain it.

825
00:45:05,310 --> 00:45:08,010
No, it's it does the game does I
think they make the rules up as

826
00:45:08,010 --> 00:45:08,520
they go along.

827
00:45:08,580 --> 00:45:11,970
Seems like it's like time.
That's it. We'll see. ultomiris

828
00:45:11,970 --> 00:45:12,540
has a couple of

829
00:45:12,540 --> 00:45:15,090
really good players and they
just let him hit all day. Yeah.

830
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:17,490
And I mean, there's like it was
baseball, they'd have very

831
00:45:17,490 --> 00:45:19,290
bonds, just doing all the
batting for three

832
00:45:19,290 --> 00:45:20,070
days in a row

833
00:45:21,330 --> 00:45:24,180
or a week depends on how many
hotdogs they can sell.

834
00:45:26,730 --> 00:45:29,610
Nothing else is going on here. I
mean, it's stuff I talk about on

835
00:45:29,610 --> 00:45:32,730
a daily source code. People hate
it when I cross post as it were,

836
00:45:32,910 --> 00:45:35,460
from one show to oh, you know, I
don't do that kind of thing that

837
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:38,040
you do all the time, man. You're
always talking about oh, I

838
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,620
mentioned that on tech five.
Surely you've heard of me, the

839
00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:46,950
the prognosticator of all things
tech, John C. Dvorak. You can

840
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:48,270
make a career out of this man.

841
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:50,430
You let it just plugging myself

842
00:45:50,460 --> 00:45:53,130
talking shit and plugging into
me kind of already on the way

843
00:45:53,130 --> 00:45:55,860
but I think I've validated that
concept by doing the show with

844
00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:56,130
you.

845
00:45:58,380 --> 00:46:02,310
spare time nobody writes it. I
mean, nobody reads it. There's a

846
00:46:02,310 --> 00:46:06,420
whole generation of people
coming up that listen to me. And

847
00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:09,360
they don't even know I'm a
writer. It's just an identity is

848
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,820
a good market and they're good
people. And they want to hear

849
00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:14,130
this stuff. So I figured I'm
gonna have to do you know dual

850
00:46:14,130 --> 00:46:16,290
purpose. I've never really uh,
you know, I was I took

851
00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:18,450
broadcasting in school. I mean,
it's not like I haven't been

852
00:46:18,450 --> 00:46:21,450
doing this for a long time so I
can do it. But I'm not really

853
00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:24,750
cut out for it. I'm, I'm a
writer. Basically. I'm not a

854
00:46:24,750 --> 00:46:29,940
good looking guy. I don't
present myself I'm grumpy. It

855
00:46:29,940 --> 00:46:32,700
just like not smiling all the
time. Like you need to do on

856
00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:34,620
television to really do the job
right?

857
00:46:34,650 --> 00:46:38,670
Or wait, here comes your you're
not good for like a morning zoo

858
00:46:38,670 --> 00:46:39,330
format.

859
00:46:40,530 --> 00:46:41,730
You like you would?

860
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,340
Hey, good morning, John C.
Dvorak. Here. We got the Palo

861
00:46:47,340 --> 00:46:55,080
Alto morning zoo, everybody.
Yeah, so I'm like,

862
00:46:55,380 --> 00:47:00,570
I could do that. I can do a kind
of a gag voice. But I can't

863
00:47:00,570 --> 00:47:03,180
sustain it. You could probably
go out for hours. Let's hear

864
00:47:03,180 --> 00:47:07,740
your gag voice. I just I'm not
going to do it. Because I'm just

865
00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:09,960
not. I mean, I can't I've not
just

866
00:47:10,830 --> 00:47:13,320
now come on Jarrah gag radio.

867
00:47:13,650 --> 00:47:14,490
Worked on it first.

868
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:20,040
Good morning, San Francisco city
by the bay. Hey, it's ACC here

869
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,970
on the T to E tip. We've got
Johnny C. Dvorak. He's standing

870
00:47:23,970 --> 00:47:26,310
by he's gonna give us a little
bit of his prognosticating.

871
00:47:26,310 --> 00:47:28,530
John, see, where's that voice of
yours? Come on? No.

872
00:47:31,050 --> 00:47:32,160
No, no.

873
00:47:32,220 --> 00:47:33,240
Okay. I tried.

874
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,430
I just you know, it's one of
those things. I can click into

875
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:38,880
it. It's like my Indian voice.
Oh, please. Put myself into it.

876
00:47:39,390 --> 00:47:42,840
Don't in another voice. Don't do
the Indian voice will get hate.

877
00:47:44,580 --> 00:47:47,400
You know, the Indian voice. I
get notes about it. Because?

878
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:54,690
Because people think, well, I
don't even don't even for some

879
00:47:54,690 --> 00:47:57,780
reason that I'm not doing a
voice mood. That's okay. If I

880
00:47:57,780 --> 00:48:00,300
was into doing the voice, I
would do it now like this. Now,

881
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:02,760
let me tell you something. Now I
have talked about this guy

882
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,630
before. Now he talks like this.
And I get a lot of complaints

883
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:09,060
about doing this first, because
it's somehow it's insulting to

884
00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:12,690
someone. But I'm not absolutely
sure who. And I've said this and

885
00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:17,790
I'll say it again. This is the
number one accent for speaking

886
00:48:17,790 --> 00:48:21,570
the English. There is no other
there are more people that talk

887
00:48:21,570 --> 00:48:24,450
like this than talk like anybody
else, including a southern guy.

888
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:26,700
And I've heard this other than
guys, and I can understand a

889
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:30,570
word they say. So I can do this.
I can also do a Bombay voice,

890
00:48:30,570 --> 00:48:34,560
which is a little different. And
I can tell I'm going to talk

891
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,850
like now there's a guy who talks
funny if he asked me but now I

892
00:48:38,850 --> 00:48:43,230
could get criticised for doing
that, that that Indian voice.

893
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,110
But I won't get criticised for
doing this. This kind of generic

894
00:48:46,110 --> 00:48:48,870
bullshit southern voices really
doesn't come from anywhere. So a

895
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:52,260
little bit of Texas, although
without the screeching. And it's

896
00:48:52,260 --> 00:48:56,250
a little bit of a little bit of
Georgia, maybe maybe the Alabama

897
00:48:56,250 --> 00:48:59,250
it's hard to say I've been
around him most of the South. So

898
00:48:59,250 --> 00:49:02,130
I can. But I won't get
criticised for this voice. And I

899
00:49:02,130 --> 00:49:05,790
won't get criticised from a
French guy, Brit, Russian or

900
00:49:05,790 --> 00:49:07,650
anybody else, but that that
Indian guy gets me in trouble.

901
00:49:07,770 --> 00:49:10,410
Oh, you were very close to
George Bush there when you did

902
00:49:10,410 --> 00:49:12,600
your southern thing that was
pretty good. You should try

903
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,520
that. Just trying to get a
George Bush together.

904
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,220
Well, you know, there's a Texas
accent that I've always loved. I

905
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,790
got Chuck Schumer's cheat. And
protections are structured from

906
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:27,000
executive tops. They talk to the
chief and that kind of saying

907
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,080
that you're getting closer.

908
00:49:30,750 --> 00:49:33,510
It's too bad. My wife is
downloading Fashion TV off of

909
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:34,470
YouTube again.

910
00:49:35,010 --> 00:49:38,730
While we're doing that I have I
have actually talked to him when

911
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,340
I picked up on the guys talking
through their teeth when I met

912
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,900
John Roach, who was the CEO of
RadioShack for years on end.

913
00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:49,680
Yeah. And I went to his office,
beautiful place. He had a huge

914
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,190
office with a gentleman that
seems once had been 50 feet

915
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:57,720
high. And he talked to history.
And and I started realising that

916
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:01,650
text since exact He lives in
Texas and I will be replaced by

917
00:50:01,650 --> 00:50:07,410
Josh. And I'm not sure why. They
suddenly seemed like mumbling if

918
00:50:07,410 --> 00:50:07,920
he asked me

919
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,239
You're pretty good now you got
some you got some. You got some

920
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,799
chops there with the accent that
was all right. Yeah, can you do

921
00:50:17,009 --> 00:50:17,879
New Yorker?

922
00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:21,330
You know I can, but I'm not so
good at it that I feel

923
00:50:21,330 --> 00:50:24,300
comfortable doing it until I get
it down. It's one of those

924
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:27,180
things I can get a certain
accent you can do like the DJ.

925
00:50:27,420 --> 00:50:28,350
Well, you can go in,

926
00:50:28,590 --> 00:50:32,010
excuse me. It took years of
practice to get that voice.

927
00:50:32,010 --> 00:50:34,500
Okay. I mean, it's not it's not
just like a thing you can just

928
00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:36,840
lock into. I mean, that's real
talent at work. Okay.

929
00:50:38,670 --> 00:50:44,340
So, but anyway, I've done the
Indian accent with some Indians,

930
00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:46,140
and they, you know, they look at
me funny.

931
00:50:47,340 --> 00:50:49,500
If you did it with some Indians,
you're kidding me?

932
00:50:49,530 --> 00:50:54,090
Oh, yeah. No, I have done it
that way. They say to me, let me

933
00:50:54,090 --> 00:50:56,100
hit this action. So no.

934
00:50:59,250 --> 00:51:01,680
And let me guess. And let me
guess it was like crickets after

935
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:02,790
you were done. Right? They were
like,

936
00:51:03,570 --> 00:51:06,360
no, actually, one of the guys
gave me a comment. He said, You

937
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,170
know, he told me where the exit
was kind of from. And I should

938
00:51:10,170 --> 00:51:12,600
say, and I should reference it.
When he says, you know, that

939
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:16,590
sounds a little and he told me
something, Eric. And I think if

940
00:51:16,590 --> 00:51:18,960
I changed it, maybe it'd be less
offensive. I said it was a

941
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,740
Pakistani accent. Oh, yeah. Oh,
that'll fly. If you come over

942
00:51:22,740 --> 00:51:25,170
here and do that. That will
result in the breakthrough.

943
00:51:25,290 --> 00:51:29,130
Right? Get get into any taxi cab
please. And just and just say,

944
00:51:29,130 --> 00:51:30,780
Oh, here's my Pakistani accent

945
00:51:32,850 --> 00:51:36,330
that went out. So anyway, but I
do make the remark that that is

946
00:51:36,330 --> 00:51:40,710
probably the number one and I
listened. Watch Indian TV. And I

947
00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:43,560
would have to say they'll talk
like that. And I think that is

948
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,250
the top accent if we're doing a
numbers game. I think more

949
00:51:47,250 --> 00:51:51,210
people speak English with that
rhythm than they do with any

950
00:51:51,210 --> 00:51:54,990
other. Yeah, so I don't see how
it could be offensive.

951
00:51:56,250 --> 00:51:58,200
Well, because we're all
politically correct. And we're

952
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,940
all stupid that way. That's why

953
00:51:59,970 --> 00:52:02,250
I think it's going to be the way
we're all going to be talking.

954
00:52:02,250 --> 00:52:03,240
That's my theory. I'm

955
00:52:04,740 --> 00:52:07,830
just getting into it for the
inevitable. We'll have to we'll

956
00:52:07,830 --> 00:52:07,980
have

957
00:52:08,669 --> 00:52:11,279
we're all speaking in the net
with an Indian accent. Why not?

958
00:52:11,729 --> 00:52:14,129
It's actually kind of got a nice
ring to it and makes you sound

959
00:52:14,669 --> 00:52:16,229
very safe. Okay,

960
00:52:16,290 --> 00:52:19,950
but here's my gauge for it.
Okay, so if you're making love

961
00:52:19,950 --> 00:52:24,510
right? How could that accent
just doesn't fly you know? It

962
00:52:24,510 --> 00:52:28,080
just doesn't sound right. It's
not it's like oh yes baby will

963
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,020
give it to me right Dad? or Yes,
but or please put your finger on

964
00:52:31,020 --> 00:52:34,050
that offers really quickly. I
like it very much. I mean, you

965
00:52:34,050 --> 00:52:36,000
know, it just doesn't quite fit.

966
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,240
I don't know. Maybe they will. I
mean, look at the music that

967
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:43,800
they listen to it. That
screeching

968
00:52:44,550 --> 00:52:51,480
dude Desi I love Desi anything.
I can't get enough of it. Are

969
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,710
you kidding me? I love that.

970
00:52:53,460 --> 00:52:54,450
No, you don't? Yeah, I

971
00:52:54,450 --> 00:52:59,070
do. I do. demography the modern?
Yeah, absolutely. The modern day

972
00:52:59,070 --> 00:53:04,740
Desi. That's D S i It's it's I
mean, it's got a great groove.

973
00:53:04,740 --> 00:53:09,660
It's got they're in a really
funky harmonies and you know,

974
00:53:09,660 --> 00:53:13,020
stuff that just isn't even in
our musical vocabulary.

975
00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:16,410
Literally. No, I dig it in and
the all the kids are dancing to

976
00:53:16,410 --> 00:53:16,980
a John.

977
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:22,170
Please. So by the way, I should
mention this when I do that

978
00:53:22,170 --> 00:53:26,010
Indian accent, my daughter's
around. She thinks I'm an idiot.

979
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,270
And she says it doesn't sound
anything at all, like an Indian.

980
00:53:30,450 --> 00:53:33,660
Now I should get my daughter up
here. She's she's in home yet.

981
00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:37,080
She's she's, she has school
vacations. She's working. But

982
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,440
she's really good. Next time we
do a show on a weekend and I'm

983
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,600
home. So that could be like in
2010. I'll ask her to come up

984
00:53:45,810 --> 00:53:50,760
and do a couple of rocks and she
does. She actually speaks Dutch

985
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,760
and Flemish with a complete
accent she speaks American

986
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,700
English English English but she
could do all sub accents

987
00:53:56,730 --> 00:53:58,440
Australian she's really good at

988
00:53:59,370 --> 00:54:01,650
like the difference between the
Australian and the British

989
00:54:01,650 --> 00:54:03,000
accent and Australian

990
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,820
and there's Australian and New
Zealand which is yet again

991
00:54:05,820 --> 00:54:07,350
subtle, subtle, be interested

992
00:54:07,350 --> 00:54:10,170
in listening to her try to
define those two because that's

993
00:54:10,170 --> 00:54:12,390
that's an another fascinating
difference because every once in

994
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:15,060
a while you run into some guy
you know, somewhere especially

995
00:54:15,060 --> 00:54:17,070
around here that San Francisco
Bay Area where all these

996
00:54:17,070 --> 00:54:20,580
travellers are and you hear a
guy and you go oh that's that's

997
00:54:20,580 --> 00:54:23,340
an Australian and you know and
you say you are from Australia

998
00:54:23,340 --> 00:54:23,490
right

999
00:54:23,490 --> 00:54:24,960
and you can pick them off more

1000
00:54:26,190 --> 00:54:28,440
well if he's from New Zealand,
he's not too pleased. But

1001
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,260
exactly that's my point. And
generally speaking, you don't

1002
00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:33,900
run into too many New Zealanders
because they really, I don't

1003
00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:35,310
think many of them get off the
islands.

1004
00:54:36,030 --> 00:54:40,320
You Can I fly with a with a kiwi
guy who runs our Office here is

1005
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,730
a kiwi Maitland. Now there's
lots of them. They're infesting

1006
00:54:44,730 --> 00:54:45,330
the world.

1007
00:54:45,749 --> 00:54:48,839
Maybe they don't admit it when
they're over here, but possible,

1008
00:54:48,899 --> 00:54:49,169
or they

1009
00:54:49,170 --> 00:54:52,980
just say Yeah, well, I'm from
Australia mate. Just easier

1010
00:54:52,980 --> 00:54:55,290
because if you're not from what
you know when someone says hey,

1011
00:54:55,290 --> 00:55:00,660
you Hey, hey, you are you from
Australia and If the guy says

1012
00:55:00,690 --> 00:55:04,200
no, I'm from New Zealand is
like, Oh, well I like Australia

1013
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,770
because that's where that that
that that crocodile guy was

1014
00:55:07,770 --> 00:55:11,160
from. And you got that other
that that Dundee fella

1015
00:55:12,780 --> 00:55:17,790
and New Zealand as your American
accent. Yeah. So I think there

1016
00:55:17,790 --> 00:55:20,190
may be some truth to the fact
that most people in the United

1017
00:55:20,190 --> 00:55:23,430
States don't even know where New
Zealand is. And these guys are

1018
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:24,360
sort of explaining it.

1019
00:55:24,809 --> 00:55:27,599
But they also have no national
heroes. You know, Australia.

1020
00:55:27,869 --> 00:55:33,449
We've got Mel Gibson. We've got
your Olivia Newton John. We've

1021
00:55:33,479 --> 00:55:38,519
got Come on, help me out here.
Nicole Kidman. We've gotten

1022
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,850
out dandy. We got to crocodile.
Oh, actually, there's a whole

1023
00:55:41,850 --> 00:55:45,420
bunch. There's a whole bunch of
models. Dude, I mean, there's

1024
00:55:45,420 --> 00:55:49,350
beautiful people when I was
married to Stuart for a while.

1025
00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:54,510
What's your name? Rachel. Rachel
Hunter,

1026
00:55:54,569 --> 00:55:58,229
Rachel Hunter, chico. Rachel.
She's still married to Rod.

1027
00:55:59,549 --> 00:56:01,679
There's more though. Well,
Richard, what's his name?

1028
00:56:01,859 --> 00:56:04,439
Murdoch is from Australia. Of
course. He's an American now.

1029
00:56:04,530 --> 00:56:07,170
Right and Carrie Parker who
people know less of who's

1030
00:56:07,170 --> 00:56:08,400
probably more powerful.

1031
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:10,350
Carrie Parker.

1032
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:13,740
Carrie Parker. Yeah, he's the
other here's the other Murdock.

1033
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,160
Oh, that's right. The two sons
have now started a venture

1034
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,140
together. I think yeah,

1035
00:56:19,140 --> 00:56:24,330
they're right. He's notorious
gambler. He comes to Vegas. And

1036
00:56:24,330 --> 00:56:27,060
there's lots of stories about
him going into Vegas and

1037
00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:31,170
Isn't he dead? I thought he died
I don't know maybe he did.

1038
00:56:31,170 --> 00:56:33,870
Let's look him up. He wouldn't
it wouldn't have been covered in

1039
00:56:33,870 --> 00:56:36,150
American news if he did so how
would I know

1040
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:45,210
let's look it up Carrie Parker
information about Carrie Parker

1041
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,240
is it with an eye or with a why?

1042
00:56:48,930 --> 00:56:52,710
It's it's I think he's a man so
it probably be with a Y who

1043
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:59,220
you don't know. UK glamour model
Carrie Parker. It's not with an

1044
00:56:59,220 --> 00:57:02,430
eye which is kind of the porn
spelling.

1045
00:57:03,150 --> 00:57:05,220
Yeah, there's always a
variation.

1046
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:14,250
rusty nails and Carrie Parker
now for the first time in a

1047
00:57:14,250 --> 00:57:16,650
world I can't find

1048
00:57:16,650 --> 00:57:20,430
anything John. Figures you're
not looking it's just me looking

1049
00:57:20,430 --> 00:57:21,930
here? Yeah, because

1050
00:57:21,930 --> 00:57:24,150
I don't want to kill the hell
what am I my your Google bitch.

1051
00:57:24,180 --> 00:57:28,470
Come on. You are the let's see.
Okay.

1052
00:57:28,980 --> 00:57:31,440
I can't find you brought it up.
You should find it

1053
00:57:31,470 --> 00:57:33,780
all right. All right. All right.
All right. All right.

1054
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,720
Here we go. Australia's 200

1055
00:57:37,260 --> 00:57:41,310
Here's my Google Search. This
should find it. Kerry Packer.

1056
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,810
Oh, both idiots. Kerry Packer
I'm sending Parker but I typed

1057
00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:50,220
in Carrie Parker Australia mogul
and got the top thing Carrie

1058
00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:56,580
Packard dead. Really? It works
very. I'm my wife is actually

1059
00:57:56,580 --> 00:58:00,450
better at this than me, but I'm
good. Anyway, Kerry Packer dead

1060
00:58:00,450 --> 00:58:05,880
Carrie Francis Bowlmor. Packer
68 richest man was chairman of

1061
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,180
media company, blah, blah, blah.
Let me actually click on it. And

1062
00:58:09,180 --> 00:58:10,710
so just reading his summary.

1063
00:58:11,490 --> 00:58:14,490
Hey, I just came up with a great
new format. Dude. This is a

1064
00:58:14,490 --> 00:58:17,220
great idea. You want to hear my
IG

1065
00:58:17,250 --> 00:58:20,970
died at 68? The world's or he
was Australia's richest man.

1066
00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:22,170
Yep. So

1067
00:58:22,380 --> 00:58:24,750
dude, this is a great format.

1068
00:58:25,590 --> 00:58:27,330
Think about 2005

1069
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:29,880
Yeah, no, there you go.

1070
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:36,930
The New York Times will report
it next week. So listen to this,

1071
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,370
it could be an audio show. It
would work. It could be video as

1072
00:58:41,370 --> 00:58:45,000
well, but it's a game show. And
the game show is you get these

1073
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,570
ridiculous questions. And you
have to answer them and you can

1074
00:58:48,570 --> 00:58:52,440
use any resource you want on the
internet. Google any other

1075
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,090
search that no one's doing it
because it's things like

1076
00:58:54,090 --> 00:58:58,470
cheating, right. Next show no
agenda. We'll get some

1077
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:01,980
participants on will or maybe
have a whole nother

1078
00:59:01,980 --> 00:59:05,040
show for that. People like no
agenda the way it is.

1079
00:59:05,580 --> 00:59:08,520
Yeah, but we have no agenda we
can do whatever we want. Can we

1080
00:59:08,580 --> 00:59:09,210
oh that's a good

1081
00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:12,570
point. Yeah, we can test it.
Well then let's get some dancing

1082
00:59:12,570 --> 00:59:13,770
girls heck with this other idea.

1083
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:18,390
And we're back to strippers.
Okay, lovely.

1084
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:23,580
So yeah, so Kerry Packer,
unknown to me three years later,

1085
00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:27,630
apparently is dead. Which is
kind of young you should send

1086
00:59:28,410 --> 00:59:32,760
a card we here in the United
States are very sorry to hear

1087
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,630
about the passing of carry just
found out

1088
00:59:37,140 --> 00:59:41,280
we just found out because we
don't really follow anything by

1089
00:59:41,310 --> 00:59:44,700
by the by the way. I'm trying to
get out of Nigeria and if you

1090
00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:45,930
could send me $100 million

1091
00:59:48,660 --> 00:59:51,870
so we know exactly what Britney
Spears is up to but do we know

1092
00:59:51,870 --> 00:59:58,170
that Gary Powell is dead? No,
no. It's so true. And here I am.

1093
00:59:58,170 --> 01:00:01,620
You know the media guy. No, and
I don't know, I, you know, I

1094
01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:04,710
probably didn't know. And it
just for some reason I just

1095
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:07,110
didn't. I just wasn't thinking
what your

1096
01:00:07,110 --> 01:00:08,430
point is. So Well, man, I'm

1097
01:00:08,430 --> 01:00:09,900
thinking his name is Parker for

1098
01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:14,130
coffee, it's even worse, that's
even worse. I posted the

1099
01:00:14,130 --> 01:00:17,880
Wikipedia definition of bread
and circuses earlier in the week

1100
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,840
on on my weblog, because that's
where that's what we're living

1101
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,900
in man. We are so in bread and
circuses, who gives a shit about

1102
01:00:24,900 --> 01:00:27,330
what's going on in the world, as
long as we know who's who's in

1103
01:00:27,330 --> 01:00:30,030
the top 24 and American Idol.
That's all. That's all that

1104
01:00:30,030 --> 01:00:30,810
matters.

1105
01:00:31,799 --> 01:00:34,379
Well, you know, my, one of my
favourite shows in the US, and

1106
01:00:34,379 --> 01:00:38,129
he, and I actually don't have
like, hours and hours and hours,

1107
01:00:38,129 --> 01:00:41,339
it's one of the few things that
kind of record and save in a

1108
01:00:41,399 --> 01:00:46,949
episodic manner, which is Jay
Leno's special that he does once

1109
01:00:46,949 --> 01:00:50,669
every couple of weeks, called
jaywalking, and you walk in, he

1110
01:00:50,669 --> 01:00:53,549
goes into the street, and he's
actually it was funny, or, you

1111
01:00:53,549 --> 01:00:55,769
know, a few years ago than it is
now because now he's trying to

1112
01:00:55,799 --> 01:00:58,499
fancy it up. But he would go
into the streets, and it would

1113
01:00:58,499 --> 01:01:00,749
just walk up to the first he
tries to find people that are

1114
01:01:00,749 --> 01:01:05,279
like, you know, professors at
USC, or teachers in high school,

1115
01:01:05,579 --> 01:01:08,939
or even some unit then he also
picks up some dingbat students,

1116
01:01:08,939 --> 01:01:15,689
and he goes up to his personal
say, so where is what country is

1117
01:01:15,689 --> 01:01:20,429
Mexico City in? And though no
answer, like I've seen this,

1118
01:01:20,429 --> 01:01:23,879
I've seen it. The answer will be
even more ludicrous than not

1119
01:01:23,879 --> 01:01:26,579
knowing where it is, though.
Answer. What country is Mexico

1120
01:01:26,579 --> 01:01:31,499
City, Indiana? I mean, I swear
to God, and it's like, this is

1121
01:01:31,499 --> 01:01:35,699
the end is one thing after
another. It just astonished

1122
01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:38,760
I've seen this, can you name a
country that starts with the

1123
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,100
letter U. And people are going

1124
01:01:44,730 --> 01:01:48,330
How about United States? Like
oh, yeah,

1125
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:53,100
that's a good one. But you know,
that's all edited. So you know,

1126
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:53,850
you don't know how many

1127
01:01:54,810 --> 01:01:57,780
the edited I know, it's some
it's phoney and then it's every

1128
01:01:57,780 --> 01:02:00,180
once in a while, you know, he's
asked a question you yourself as

1129
01:02:00,180 --> 01:02:03,690
you watch, it can't answer it.
But generally speaking, yeah,

1130
01:02:03,690 --> 01:02:06,660
it's edited to death. But the
fact that somebody would answer

1131
01:02:06,690 --> 01:02:11,580
Indiana as to what country is
Mexico City, and it's just I

1132
01:02:11,580 --> 01:02:14,250
don't care how edited it is.
It's just unbelievable, right?

1133
01:02:15,390 --> 01:02:19,500
So funny. Yes, we're a fine
bunch, aren't we?

1134
01:02:20,190 --> 01:02:22,620
He one of the things he likes to
do on that bit is he'll have

1135
01:02:22,620 --> 01:02:25,710
pictures of people who have a
famous person who have like to

1136
01:02:25,710 --> 01:02:27,840
put the President's picture up
there and it says, who's this

1137
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,300
and they won't identify him. And
then they'll put a picture of

1138
01:02:30,300 --> 01:02:33,480
Britney Spears or Paris Hilton
in there and then laminate, do

1139
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,140
that. Does that gag a lot. And
it's always the same. Nobody can

1140
01:02:37,140 --> 01:02:41,610
recognise anybody except that a
small number of overhyped

1141
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:42,540
celebrities.

1142
01:02:43,050 --> 01:02:47,070
Hey, man, I'm gonna work on our
game show. This is a good idea.

1143
01:02:47,310 --> 01:02:53,490
We could be the we could be like
the Regis and what's, what's the

1144
01:02:53,490 --> 01:02:54,390
what's the new Nash girl?

1145
01:02:54,420 --> 01:02:56,310
No, no, Kelly, Kelly.

1146
01:02:57,330 --> 01:03:00,690
We could be Regis and Kelly. And
we could do our own game show.

1147
01:03:02,430 --> 01:03:04,320
Well, my legs are better. So I
might as well.

1148
01:03:04,919 --> 01:03:14,159
That's true. Not that I would
know. So I think it was you

1149
01:03:14,159 --> 01:03:16,499
there's a date hasn't possibly
now there was something done

1150
01:03:16,499 --> 01:03:20,579
like this on a internet tonight,
which was a tech TV show. That

1151
01:03:20,579 --> 01:03:23,429
was probably the best show that
they produced at Tech TV ever

1152
01:03:23,429 --> 01:03:26,549
and was killed by Paul Allen
personally, because for some

1153
01:03:26,549 --> 01:03:28,829
reason, he didn't like somebody
on the show. Really, even though

1154
01:03:28,829 --> 01:03:33,299
it's yeah, it's weird story. But
anyway, they did something like

1155
01:03:33,299 --> 01:03:36,539
this, where they did a Google
showdown about trying to find as

1156
01:03:36,539 --> 01:03:40,319
many of something as they could,
but it wasn't quite what your

1157
01:03:40,319 --> 01:03:40,589
thing

1158
01:03:40,620 --> 01:03:42,300
I think it should just be
whoever has the answer the

1159
01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:45,330
quickest, you know, so you just
throw out a question something

1160
01:03:45,330 --> 01:03:47,700
really ridiculous. And then it

1161
01:03:47,700 --> 01:03:49,830
has to be done as it has to be
done. If you're gonna do it that

1162
01:03:49,830 --> 01:03:52,860
way, then it has to be done in a
you have to use the game show

1163
01:03:52,860 --> 01:03:56,100
format. So you would have three
people standing there as though

1164
01:03:56,100 --> 01:04:00,750
it was, you know, Jeopardy.
Yeah. And with laptops, yeah, or

1165
01:04:00,780 --> 01:04:03,960
whatever. And then the question
would go out, and then the three

1166
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,540
of them would grind away on it.
And these would have to

1167
01:04:06,540 --> 01:04:08,910
obviously be questions that they
just can't answer on the spot.

1168
01:04:08,910 --> 01:04:09,210
Oh, so

1169
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,030
what you do is you have a set
amount of time and then you have

1170
01:04:12,030 --> 01:04:15,000
the everyone has their answer
written down, and then you

1171
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,380
reveal your answer one by one.
Is that okay?

1172
01:04:20,070 --> 01:04:22,050
No, I was thinking that there
would be a race but then I'm

1173
01:04:22,050 --> 01:04:24,000
thinking about it could be
boring as watching people type

1174
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,060
into a machine. There has to be
some way of eliminating the

1175
01:04:27,060 --> 01:04:29,370
boredom factor. For the viewer.
I

1176
01:04:29,370 --> 01:04:32,490
think it's gonna go pretty fast.
I mean, you know, it took you

1177
01:04:32,490 --> 01:04:34,710
What 15 seconds to find the
answer to that.

1178
01:04:35,940 --> 01:04:40,140
It didn't take long. Well, it's
looking at Oh, this is even

1179
01:04:40,140 --> 01:04:45,240
funnier. I'm looking at the
search. I put in. I typed in

1180
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:53,190
Carrie Pastore occur P A s r k e
R Australia mogul and then it

1181
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:56,130
came up with the do you mean
Carrie Parker, Australia mogul

1182
01:04:56,130 --> 01:04:59,430
and then even without having to
click on that it had the carry

1183
01:04:59,430 --> 01:05:04,170
part pack are dead at the top.
So sometimes screwing up

1184
01:05:04,170 --> 01:05:08,640
completely can actually be
beneficial. works better because

1185
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,220
Google's always looking at for
your screw ups and trying to

1186
01:05:11,220 --> 01:05:16,290
correct you. Interesting. Yeah,
no, I think it'd be fascinating.

1187
01:05:17,460 --> 01:05:21,240
Especially if it was combined
with a web site that explained

1188
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,550
how people were doing the search
to get the answer because

1189
01:05:23,580 --> 01:05:27,780
there's something about learning
how to do searches properly to

1190
01:05:27,780 --> 01:05:31,170
get results quick. Yeah, it's
kind of I think we have a big

1191
01:05:31,170 --> 01:05:32,130
draw in itself. And it's

1192
01:05:32,130 --> 01:05:35,610
a real skill. You know, it's a
it's a skill that's that we

1193
01:05:35,610 --> 01:05:37,740
should be teaching our kids so
we could it could be the

1194
01:05:37,740 --> 01:05:40,290
spelling bee of the of the of
the naughties.

1195
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,970
Yeah, no, I agree. I think the
kids in school should be

1196
01:05:44,970 --> 01:05:48,300
learning how to do elaborate
Google searches for obscure

1197
01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:49,410
information, Boolean

1198
01:05:49,410 --> 01:05:53,190
search, baby Boolean searches,
or no one Boolean search 101.

1199
01:05:55,230 --> 01:05:57,720
Yeah, how many kids don't know
what that means? They don't know

1200
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,430
what that if I said it, my
daughter doesn't know what that

1201
01:05:59,430 --> 01:06:01,950
means. She doesn't know about
typing a plus into into Google,

1202
01:06:02,190 --> 01:06:06,120
or a minus which minus is even
better than a plus often. So you

1203
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,960
can omit certain type of
keywords from the results.

1204
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,360
That's that's the great stuff
that you're filtering.

1205
01:06:14,340 --> 01:06:17,940
Yeah. There's a lot of little
tricks. There's books

1206
01:06:18,030 --> 01:06:21,180
that we take for granted man
that people know that. People

1207
01:06:21,180 --> 01:06:21,810
don't know.

1208
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,200
No, it's always amazing to me
that people don't you know, I

1209
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,880
every once in a while I get a
letter from a reader or once in

1210
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,200
a while, and John gets a letter,
and it goes like this. Dear

1211
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:34,710
John.

1212
01:06:36,060 --> 01:06:39,210
I'll have somebody say, you
know, do you know how that blog

1213
01:06:39,210 --> 01:06:42,360
asked me a question about
something about, you know,

1214
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,750
a letter through the US Mail?
No, I'm

1215
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:49,590
just send me an email, email. I
get questions all the time. Like

1216
01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:51,450
that. So I get it. Yeah. And
there's always some dumb

1217
01:06:51,450 --> 01:06:54,570
question. And what I always do
is I do a Google search that

1218
01:06:54,570 --> 01:06:57,150
they should have done for the
Exec. And I don't even do much

1219
01:06:57,150 --> 01:06:59,460
more than take what they wanted
to know and put it in the Google

1220
01:06:59,460 --> 01:07:04,920
box. Then I cut and paste the
Google URL that gave me the

1221
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,490
answer. And I give them the
Google URL. So when they click

1222
01:07:08,490 --> 01:07:11,370
on it to get their answer, they
see it's a Google page that I

1223
01:07:11,370 --> 01:07:14,160
had simply taken their stuff and
put it in the Google thing,

1224
01:07:14,340 --> 01:07:17,190
which is saying to them, you
can't do this.

1225
01:07:17,610 --> 01:07:21,270
So here's what I do. I just
don't reply.

1226
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,210
But I answer all my emails,

1227
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,060
or you answer all your emails
every single one.

1228
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,230
Well, I mean, there's some that
gets by email. You have

1229
01:07:31,230 --> 01:07:34,410
an empty inbox, or you have an
empty inbox guy, you empty it

1230
01:07:34,410 --> 01:07:34,650
out.

1231
01:07:35,220 --> 01:07:38,760
No, no, I if I'm too busy,
sometimes it'll pass over. And

1232
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,450
then if I it'll be some some
stuff, just be there forever.

1233
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,820
I'm always amazed when I do a
search on like, I'll look at you

1234
01:07:44,820 --> 01:07:47,760
sometimes. Adam Curtis, you were
because you'd sent me a note the

1235
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,160
other day, so I wanted to see
it. So I'll just do a search on

1236
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,010
the box, and I find it and it'll
be every message you ever sent

1237
01:07:53,010 --> 01:07:54,960
me. And then I'll see two or
three of them in there that I

1238
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,650
never looked at. You know,
because they're bored,

1239
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,460
or you sent you set them to
unread. Do you ever do that? Or

1240
01:08:02,460 --> 01:08:05,070
like, I'll set this to unread?
And that'll that will make me go

1241
01:08:05,070 --> 01:08:07,230
read it again. Which of course
never happens.

1242
01:08:07,740 --> 01:08:10,770
Yeah, no, I don't even I've
already given up on that idea.

1243
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,790
So but I'll see a couple now
click on it. Oh, that's what he

1244
01:08:14,790 --> 01:08:16,530
was talking about the other day.

1245
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,820
Thanks for reading. That's nice.

1246
01:08:21,899 --> 01:08:24,419
It's not that often just happens
if you don't send that much out.

1247
01:08:24,419 --> 01:08:25,889
So it doesn't happen to us so
much. Well, I've

1248
01:08:25,890 --> 01:08:28,290
learned a long time ago, the
less you send, the less you

1249
01:08:28,290 --> 01:08:28,920
receive.

1250
01:08:29,790 --> 01:08:34,080
Yeah, there's there is that all
right,

1251
01:08:34,110 --> 01:08:36,300
I'm done. I think so.

1252
01:08:37,020 --> 01:08:40,080
And my wife has been surfing
porn throughout the second half

1253
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:40,740
of the show.

1254
01:08:42,210 --> 01:08:45,030
So she's bored. She's very
bored.

1255
01:08:45,270 --> 01:08:48,780
She wants me all to herself for
the weekend. Before I leave her

1256
01:08:48,780 --> 01:08:50,790
she knows it's gonna be it's
gonna be a while.

1257
01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:54,989
I think you should change your
flight plans and come in through

1258
01:08:55,559 --> 01:08:56,579
Chicago. Yeah,

1259
01:08:56,610 --> 01:08:59,970
I don't think so. Coming through
Chicago.

1260
01:09:00,510 --> 01:09:03,960
It'd be cool. come in through
Vancouver. Hit Vancouver, BC and

1261
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,870
then come into Seattle from
Vancouver from Europe. That

1262
01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:07,680
would be interesting.

1263
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:13,470
Why? Just to see if you want to
trouble. Yeah, that's no. Want

1264
01:09:13,470 --> 01:09:17,430
to do that? Don't maybe you'll
get into a lot of trouble this

1265
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:17,760
time.

1266
01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:22,889
How about going to Mexico? Yeah,
there now you're talking in a

1267
01:09:22,889 --> 01:09:28,919
cab? In the truck to Juana in
the trunk? Well, no, that is

1268
01:09:28,919 --> 01:09:31,709
getting carried away. But I
think it'd be cool to fly from

1269
01:09:31,739 --> 01:09:36,089
from London to Mexico City. Or
know it or someplace in Baja. I

1270
01:09:36,089 --> 01:09:38,969
guess you get to Tijuana
somehow. Get to Tijuana take a

1271
01:09:38,969 --> 01:09:43,229
cab across the border to San
Diego and see what the

1272
01:09:43,229 --> 01:09:48,509
experience is. Okay, well, if
you don't want to do it, let

1273
01:09:48,509 --> 01:09:50,819
somebody somebody should do it.
It was also being harassed.

1274
01:09:50,999 --> 01:09:52,019
Okay, be interesting.

1275
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,390
I don't want to do it. I really
don't. I just want to get on

1276
01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:54,990
with life.

1277
01:09:56,220 --> 01:09:59,130
Would be a good story goes to
probably put a book around it.

1278
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,280
Do you ever get this The
application Pub Sub agent quit

1279
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:07,890
unexpectedly. Well, Pub Sub
agent, what do you think that

1280
01:10:07,890 --> 01:10:08,340
does?

1281
01:10:08,849 --> 01:10:11,699
I don't know. Probably we had to
rerecord the show. No.

1282
01:10:12,510 --> 01:10:14,280
Quick. Let's stop it while it's
still good.

1283
01:10:15,389 --> 01:10:17,459
All right, sign off. All right.
Well,

1284
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:21,059
apologies for the sound quality.
I'll work on that for next week.

1285
01:10:22,079 --> 01:10:25,889
Coming to you from a dark Friday
evening in the United Kingdom.

1286
01:10:25,919 --> 01:10:26,789
I'm Adam curry.

1287
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:30,600
And I'm out here in sunny
California. I'm John C. Dvorak.

1288
01:10:30,810 --> 01:10:31,230
And we'll

1289
01:10:31,230 --> 01:10:34,890
talk to you next time, probably
with a game show on no agenda.