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The modern Hitler is going to be
a guy like Tony Blair. I mean,

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that's just obviously it. Adam
curry, John C. Dvorak.

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It's October 10 2009. Time for
your Gitmo nation media

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assassination episode 138. This
is no agenda proud to be a

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citizen of the people who are
bombing the moon and coming to

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you from the minimum security
containment cell and get my

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nation West San Francisco,
California where it's Fleet

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Week. I'm Adam curry.

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And from an area where the days
are getting shorter, northern

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Silicon Valley the sun's moving
toward the Golden Gate Bridge.

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I'm John C. Dvorak. Raglan
Buzzkill. Yeah, it's

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Saturday evening over here and
get my nation West. But you

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know, it's somewhere.

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You know, I've been looking at
some people that had been

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advising people to listen to our
show. And one of them said,

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Well, you know, I had to talk
him into getting past the corn

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ball.

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The opening. Yeah, I've heard
that too. But it's, we're gonna

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change the opening.

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No. It'd be crazy. The opening
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half the time.

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Exactly. Right. Now, there's a
couple other gyms in there,

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which we play from time to time.

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I don't know what they want. I
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podcasts. In fact, I sent our
cohort dead vvO Andrew Gromit

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off on a kind of homework
exercise actually mission. Just

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listen to a bunch of the skeptic
style podcast, which is the kind

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of podcast we do, generally
speaking. And I listened to a

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bunch of them and most of them I
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the information was fair, but
the presentation was so

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amateurish. Yeah, and
unprofessional that you know, I,

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I just can't understand why
anybody would want people to go

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there go that way.

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Which by the way, has nothing to
do with with the jingles

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jingles, jingles do not
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professional.

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Yes, that's exactly.

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Yeah. So, a couple things. First
of all, I have a new setup,

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which I just want to mention,
which I will take a picture and

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publish this I have a new
microphone stand, which I'm

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quite proud of.

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Let me try to guess what it
might be consistent. ever

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guessed it, you'll never go
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favorite standard was always a
toilet paper roll, or a paper

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towel, roll that piece of
cardboard crap that's usually

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found in the middle of it. Or
maybe the roll itself with that

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microphone hanging loosely from
the clip that you clipped it on

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there. So I'm sure it is just
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So first, I should say that, you
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with this setup, and
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the Mac, there's no hardware
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controllers, one that controls
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live processing mode, and the
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faders. And the other one is the
jingle box, which is a whole

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bunch of buttons, so I can fire
that stuff off. And I use this

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microphone, which not only is it
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transmitter receiver, not only
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you can take it with you
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sounds good. I don't know if
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reason it is but it just it
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microphone I've ever used on
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Well, I mean, I've only heard
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used another microphone.

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In London in London, I used a
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like $4,000 microphones and
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doesn't. So anyway, the mic
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change the work table around and
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in front of the laptop. So I
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towel holder down in front of
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still like that because of the
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RadioShack and I got an
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monitors I have I've the laptop
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secondary widescreen monitor
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top of that I taped an alligator
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telescopic antenna which is
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the alligator clip and I can
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antenna right down to my mouth
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Sounds like one of those old
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it's the roach clip mic stand.
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That's where we used to get our
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got questions? We got roach
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So the thing Well, I don't know
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pretty normalized with that mic.
I mean, it doesn't sound like I

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mean, everyone likes my PR 40
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than they like this mic
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it too. But I listened to myself
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know what I sound like. I Don't
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that's not. I mean, it's it
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sound. It's not as it's not mean
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voice, which is, it's not bad
job, a little bit of character.

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I prefer sounding like myself as
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you know, everybody sounded
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Yeah, really? Everybody is
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doing? Yeah.

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You sent it to me.

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Yeah, I did. I said that to you.
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listening to. If there's a
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DJs. I can't remember the exact
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probably dig it up in the Bay
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of Dr. Don rose. Stuff that he
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Bay Area, when in the heyday of
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were he used that donkey sound
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Yeah. heyday when it was kind of
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All right. We have some
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take care of right off the bat.
John. There's been a little by

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the way, by the way, before you
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shows executive producer is
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Did we have to mention something
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when

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we do the rundown of who gave us
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But right now, just Mickey
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Kennedy, who donated the most
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episode. 138 have no agenda, and
we really appreciate it. And the

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whole plug comes at the end of
the show. Right? Yeah, he's our

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executive producer, Executive
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Should look good on the resume
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Yeah, it does actually look
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produced no agenda with Adam
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vouch for him. Yeah. will write
you a letter of recommendation.

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Hell, you just send us the
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weren't you just write it
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I mean, essentially, that's what
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anyway, nothing. Yeah,

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they just put up money. Yeah,
that's how it works. Okay. So

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there's been a little bit of
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actually read the book, Atlas
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hottest selling book at the
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hottest selling books 300,000
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book that's 52 years old. I
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the Bible. And some people
actually were saying, hey, you

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know what, I really want to
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I'll only do that if John reads
Atlas Shrugged. And, John, you

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have proclaimed that you read
the book? Yes, I have been

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enflames. But I'm not quite sure
when I mean, this is over 1000

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pages. And it's really small
prints are really more like 1500

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to maybe 1800 and regular book
print. When did you have time to

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do this?

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I make time I don't sleep.

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To put the issue to bed for once
and for all. I am going to do a

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pop quiz. And it will consist of
three questions. If you get two

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of the three questions, right. I
will never again think that you

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have not read

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this book. Okay. And then after
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you some questions. That's fine.
Yeah, that's fine.

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Okay, well, you'll see that my
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questions that you can answer.
If you read the book. Are you

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ready, John? Sure. Go okay. What
item of jewelry. did Hank

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Rearden give to Dagny? Taggart?
Oops, wrong one, of course. Did

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he give her Do I hear you
actually turning pages of the

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book?

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No, I don't have the book here
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look it up. It's 1000 pages
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It sounded like you were okay.
So again, what item of jewelry

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did Hank Rearden give to Dagny?
Taggart?

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You know, that's a good
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remember but I think it was a
ring. Down one,

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what do you mean, you thought it
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the entire book, John.

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He gave it to her more than
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this this piece of jewelry is
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book.

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It was something made from that
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Okay, it was a bracelet. Right.
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metal, yes. And

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you would have gotten extra
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originally gave it to his wife
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want it. Not bad. Not bad. Okay,
question number two. I'll give

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you half a point for that. All
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was Daphne's first job when she
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Oh, she got a job. Do you
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Yeah, this was yeah, this was,
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It's like essential.

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When are you talking about Gulf
Gulf Gulf the place in the

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middle of nowhere

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when she crosses her plane

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and she's talking to you, you're
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was the house made for? Yes,
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Yes. Correct. Correct. That is
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I'll give you a job was getting
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No, her actual job. She had to
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yeah, that's right. Yeah. This
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they're giving all this they all
these lectures about you should

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not serve other people and all
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Tell me something honest. Is is
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Nobody's giving me anything.
Okay. You became his housemaid?

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Yeah. For some unknown reason.
Yes,

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correct. Correct. Correct.
Correct. Okay, here's the third

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and final question. I'd say
you're, you're batting about 80.

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Right now. So that's, that's not
bad. What was the evil sound

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wave machine first tested on?

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Well, it was called Project X.
Correct. And it was tested on

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the public, I believe, wasn't
it? That would be

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incorrect. What point no. Well,
let me help you out here when

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it's where they had the military
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the important people and
politicians show up. What did

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they test it on?

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I thought it was they thought
they tested it on the public.

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No, no.

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Man, did you like did you read
the Cliff Notes?

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No. Cliff Notes. Oh, that was a
good idea.

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They tested it on a farm with
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Alright, the goats.

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Okay, well, you got another half
point. That's too. You got

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two points. Yes. You got two
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I'll say that you probably did
read the book.

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Well, why don't you give me
another question. Just as a

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bonus, no, no,

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you asked me some questions.
Yeah, I'm

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gonna ask you some questions.
That's where I got my sheets

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here. Hold on. Where's HR in
most of these stories involving

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the factories? Why it's HR,
there's all this crazy stuff

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going on. Factors in these
companies when there's no human

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resources, people in HR? Where's
HR?

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They didn't have HR departments
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written. Yeah,

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right. Okay. Let me give you
that actually. This one okay.

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You know, at the very end of
this crazy book when they're

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torturing John Galt. Yes.
Taggart cracks and realizes that

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he's been wrong all these years.
Right. Why did that happen?

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gulf broadcast came. That's what
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point. Ready for this? Yeah.
What was the route of the comet?

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Was that the east to west? You
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that San Francisco train station
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bunch of punks. Yeah. And so
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They went through the desert,
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train crapped out in Arizona in
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train going from San Francisco
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Dude, it was written by a
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What did Wyatt do?

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Why it on a second. Why it

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believes is the main character.
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I forget. What was he did he
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No, no, no, I don't remember.
Dad's Danziger. Right? Why it

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made shale oil? Oh, right. Your
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right? Yeah, right. Yeah. Right.
Or that? Yeah, I think I do.

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Okay, here's the question. How
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when he's dealing with shale
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there are no wells involved?

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John, look, I could also ask you
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questions that are, you know,
the flying in this book is way

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off the hook as well. But that's
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And let's, let's move on, come
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you want to start asking
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read the book.

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I'm very proud of you.

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What's Mr. Thompson's first name
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Mr. Thompson. Tell me who
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He was the delay You have the
country he was the president Mr.

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Trump, I don't remember. I don't
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his name, but I have to assume
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I just had to play that that was
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produced that I keep getting him
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guess he's going to pay for the
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that. So anything for the money,
John, anything for the money?

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That's one of our producers who
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with. All right. I think the
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although not actually talk about
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the Obama Nobel Peace Prize. Oh,
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did you hear I thought they were
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you'll agree with me, John, that
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massive distraction. Something
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thoughts about it, where they
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something. So like, Hmm, what
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him a peace prize. That'll keep
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while over here. Nothing to see.
Look at that.

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Well, let me say this. It
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talking about nothing, but

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not just white. Right. But but
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on this every single newspaper.
And you know, and politicians

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are talking about it. So
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Yeah, no, I have to agree with
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took place in the last week that
are you know, we've noticed this

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before, and we've tried to
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the left wing, nothing to see
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every time we do this show. But
the most recent things that have

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been kind of like distractions.
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Peace Prize. And by the way,
he's giving the money to

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charity, which I don't think Al
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started he started his cap and
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with him. He invested in cap
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fund eight.

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And the other thing that was
semi distracting was this

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pounding the moon with a
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I'd love to to at the same time,
because there's nothing like the

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president of a country who bombs
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Nobel Peace Prize, you know, it
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kind of weird about that. Yeah,
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what, I watched the video. And
I'll put a link to that to the

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NASA video. You can probably
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the net. Anyhow, but I was
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okay. It was like, yeah, they
switched to infrared. Okay, it

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looks blue. I don't see any heat
mapping going on. What the hell

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happened there? Nothing. Guy
didn't even know if they

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actually shot anything.

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At all been bull,

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and totally. And the price of
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million. That doesn't seem like
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Well, it's just, uh, you know,
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have to worry about protecting
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a, essentially a shell.

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What kind of explosives did they
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I don't know. I didn't you know,
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much. I thought the whole thing
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from the fact that somehow you
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a probe to the moon and
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and then claims that they found
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if they did or not, but it just
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they found water. We never found
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around. Yeah, yeah. grew up
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pounding the moon with a
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It just makes no sense. And in
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really does help my theory that
you know, that I where I

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question if we've been on the
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you not I mean, how can you miss
the obvious? Hey, what's

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your wandering around in the
moon? And then there's water 30

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feet under your feet? I mean,
what are you gonna be doing

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digging a hole? Well, then how

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did this how did this satellite
How did the Indians see it?

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Well, I think they must have
they don't have no I don't know

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that was like a few months ago,
and I don't remember how or how

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they came up with this notion.
They apparently found in some

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area, and I guess someplace we
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area with the mistletoe to
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the Indians found stuff I don't
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waste of time. The one thing is
oh, well just so one day we can

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go to the moon if there's water
there, then we know we can live

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there and all this other
nonsense and it's like we're not

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going to the moon. We're not
putting a colony on the moon

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anytime soon.

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So apparently it was a two ton
kinetic weapon that was supposed

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to create a five mile wide
crater. Now I'm sorry, but what

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they don't have zoom lenses now.
If you saw nothing you saw

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outside now

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what what was it in? Was it a
nuke?

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A kinetic weapon? I'm not quite
sure. What does that mean? I

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don't know. I'm just reading
from the from the from the

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mainstream media publication? I
don't know they

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did they go well, wait a minute,
hold on a second stop, stop the

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presses. Let's

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google kinetic.

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They use the word kinetic weapon
or what it was a kinetic weapon.

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And they don't explain it when
for the last 40 years when I was

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writing columns and all these
newspapers, and you said the

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word hard disk, they their
editors would come back and say,

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Can you explain what a hard disk
is? Because nobody knows what

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they mean what that means.
That's all But meanwhile, they

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just throw kinetic weapon out
there. Whatever it is. Are you

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kidding me?

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Sorry. I'm sorry.

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You could play in the pet peeve
thing at work.

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I was thinking about it. For X

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series, I mean, it's always gold
me from day one when I was

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writing for the newspaper. Well,
hard disk. What's a hard disk?

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What is a hard disk

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disk? Spinning around with data
on it.

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I love the the examiner. The
title on the title of their

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report. NASA Moon bombing
violates space law and may cause

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clonk conflict with lunar
extraterrestrials and UFOs

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civilizations. No shit. And they
complain about Iran. I mean,

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come on, get real. Well, we
well, apparently there is a

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United Nations Outer Space
Treaty. And here it is

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resolution adopted adopted by
the General Assembly treaty on

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Principles Governing the
Activities of States and the

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Exploration and Use of outer
space, including the moon and

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other celestial bodies. And
you're not allowed to bomb it.

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It's like it's like a no bombing

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of the moon.

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No bombing allowed. This was
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but we get bomber rack. Does
that make sense to you?

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No, of course not. I'm gonna put
this in the links. That's a

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pretty good one someone just
sent that to me. It really is a

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General Assembly resolutions,
the General Assembly had to

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consider the report of the
Committee on the Peaceful Uses

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of Outer Space, outer space
covering its work during 1966.

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In particular, the work
accomplished by the legal

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subcommittee, man, they got a
whole thing about space here.

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You know, can't be too far ahead
of the curve.

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This is from a while ago, this
is very the Exploration and Use

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of outer space, including the
moon and other celestial bodies

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shall be carried out for the
benefit and the interests of all

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countries, irrespective of their
degree of economic or scientific

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development and shall be the
province of all mankind. Hmm. I

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gotta read through this thing is
pretty big. This whole UN

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resolution. I like it. Well,
then we violated it.

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Yeah, we did. Apparently Obama
violate it. And then the next

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thing you know, he's got a Nobel
Peace Prize. Each prize. Yeah,

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makes no sense.

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There's a bunch of UFOs flying
around dudes going, Hey, man, I

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Obama Dude, that's so good.
blowing shit up.

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So that we got the results back
from this bombing yet?

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Well, they found nothing.
Although the results that I'm

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reading are well, it could it
could be very exciting. Once we

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get all the data. It's being
stored on a hard disk,

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apparently, and have to wait
until it's flown back. It's

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bull.

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Well, it seems like your might
you may be right here. These are

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two major distractions. And I
mean, the fact that I mean, but

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who's in on the on the game. I
mean, we did the distraction

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with the moon bombing ourselves,
but the, you know, the Nobel

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Peace Prize? Well, by the way
that people should know that

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this is

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exactly what I wanted you to
explain because people don't

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understand what you're about to
talk about.

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The Nobel Peace Prize, the Nobel
Prizes were set up by Alfred

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Nobel. And there's two sets of
them and one set is delivered

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with a Swedish in Sweden with
Swedish judge or judges that are

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chosen within very narrow
disciplines to give awards for

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scientific progress. But no bell
is set up a second group and

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they're in Norway. They're not
in Sweden. They're in Norway,

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Oslo. And they're picked by the
government the government of

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Norway that house or the
assembly or whatever they call

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it picks five people to choose
the winner of the Nobel Peace

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Prize and and then the criteria
is essentially someone who

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promotes peace. Some either by
you know, throwing away their

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weapons or by bombing the moon
talking a big game usually

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something like that whatever
they do somehow it caused I

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don't know how Al Gore got it
because I don't know what global

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warming and peace have to do
with each other but what he got

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when anyway, the point is is
that by promoting peace and and

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that's an award comes out in
Norway it's a separate

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ceremonies got nothing to do
with the Swedish thing there is

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one joint website that covers
both these things. But

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essentially, when you start
really breaking it down, you

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find they're separate. But
listening, all these talk radio

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00:25:32,490 --> 00:25:35,340
guys are going on and about the
bunch of jerk offs that the

449
00:25:35,340 --> 00:25:39,600
Swedes are giving you. A
warning, I'm thinking the Swedes

450
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,010
have got nothing to do with it.

451
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,400
So how did that brand gets so
split up? I mean, how does that

452
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,310
work? What went wrong? Because
clearly there's something there.

453
00:25:47,310 --> 00:25:51,420
Is there actually a peace prize
from the original Swedish Nobel

454
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:52,380
Foundation?

455
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:55,440
Not that I know of, but the
money comes from the same guy. I

456
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,980
mean, he set it up as a kind of
a combination thing. He just be

457
00:25:58,980 --> 00:26:02,820
just, you know, how Norway get
involved? When it was originally

458
00:26:02,820 --> 00:26:05,580
established? As far as I know,
it was Norway was the was

459
00:26:05,580 --> 00:26:09,270
designated as the country that
would would do the award. I

460
00:26:09,270 --> 00:26:11,190
think that they came together
later. I don't know. I don't

461
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:13,710
know what the exact history is
from the inception, which was

462
00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:16,770
around the turn of the century.
And Nobel Of course, Alfred

463
00:26:16,770 --> 00:26:19,170
Nobel is the guy who invented
dynamite for people who out

464
00:26:19,170 --> 00:26:23,910
there don't know. Now make
sense, was like concerned after

465
00:26:23,910 --> 00:26:26,730
World War Two, or I guess it was
conservative beginning I don't

466
00:26:26,730 --> 00:26:29,250
know when he invented dynamite.
But do you immediately saw the

467
00:26:29,250 --> 00:26:32,160
first thing people did whether
it was, hey, this is cool, we

468
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,990
can blow up somebody's building.
And so he felt guilty. I think,

469
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:39,720
you know that, you know, the
Dynamite was being used for

470
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,580
nefarious purposes instead of
mining. And so that's where I

471
00:26:44,580 --> 00:26:47,010
created a Nobel Peace Prize. But
it's got nothing to do with the

472
00:26:47,010 --> 00:26:47,430
other one. Let's

473
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:52,380
listen to the actual award. I
have an on video Nobel committee

474
00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:59,130
has decided that the Nobel Peace
Prize for 2009 is to be awarded

475
00:26:59,130 --> 00:27:04,440
to President Barack Obama for
his extra ordinary efforts to

476
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,800
strengthen international
diplomacy and cooperation

477
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,700
between peoples

478
00:27:08,730 --> 00:27:10,680
by bombing the moon.

479
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:14,070
You know, the funny thing is, is
that the research indicates that

480
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:18,090
this award was he was nominated
for this award. 12 days after he

481
00:27:18,090 --> 00:27:21,060
became president, he really
hasn't done anything except talk

482
00:27:21,060 --> 00:27:23,820
a big game. Right. So you know,
but he got the award. I mean, as

483
00:27:23,820 --> 00:27:26,910
far as I'm concerned, a million
bucks into Americans America's

484
00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:32,160
coffers. Although it'd be better
for us in euros. And I guess it

485
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,820
wasn't your I think it's 800,000
euros. Yeah, so it's something

486
00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:39,180
like anyway. So I mean, I don't
begrudge the guy for winning the

487
00:27:39,180 --> 00:27:41,280
award. What difference does it
make? I can't see getting all

488
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,300
worked up about it.

489
00:27:42,330 --> 00:27:44,610
Well, that's what that is. But
that's the entire point. It's

490
00:27:44,610 --> 00:27:48,690
like, who gives a crap? While on
Tuesday, there's going to be a

491
00:27:48,690 --> 00:27:52,290
secret vote about the health
care bill, which will not be

492
00:27:52,290 --> 00:27:55,590
published online for anyone to
comment on it. That's what's

493
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:58,110
going on here. John, there's
just no two ways about it.

494
00:27:59,370 --> 00:28:01,740
I just don't think the
Norwegians care about our health

495
00:28:01,740 --> 00:28:02,520
care bill.

496
00:28:02,910 --> 00:28:05,760
No, they don't. But they do care
about doing what we tell them to

497
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:06,330
do.

498
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,480
Well, you know, you could make
that assertion.

499
00:28:10,650 --> 00:28:14,580
It's a possibility, but hereby
made up. When he's

500
00:28:14,580 --> 00:28:17,160
pretty it is pretty weird.
Somebody pointed out, there was

501
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,040
one of these crazy radio guys
that went on with all the people

502
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,560
that didn't get the Nobel Prize.
And he went on with the fact

503
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,550
that Mahatma Gandhi for an
example, was nominated four

504
00:28:26,550 --> 00:28:27,930
times and never won.

505
00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:31,380
By the way, Norway is one of the
few countries that does not use

506
00:28:31,380 --> 00:28:33,600
the euro. So they're probably
he's probably getting it in

507
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,290
kronor.

508
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,880
Right. That's right. Norway is
not in the EU, Norway and and

509
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,250
Switzerland are the two
countries that's told everyone

510
00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:43,650
to stuff it. And for good
reason. Norway doesn't need to

511
00:28:43,650 --> 00:28:46,080
be involved there. They're just
they're essentially pumping

512
00:28:46,110 --> 00:28:50,310
dollar herbs pumping money out
of the North Sea by the ton. And

513
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:52,650
they are they're rich. It's a
very rich country in

514
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,760
Switzerland.

515
00:28:54,390 --> 00:28:58,680
The day who gives a crap, who
cares? Who cares? I just can't

516
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,420
care. About what about the Nobel
Peace Prize? This this is what

517
00:29:03,420 --> 00:29:06,450
boggles the mind. I pick up the
Financial Times the weekend

518
00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:10,290
edition, front page right there
kaboom. Well, actually, Mickey

519
00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:15,870
pointed out to me because I, I
laid this this assertion on her.

520
00:29:16,410 --> 00:29:19,560
And she said Oh, right. So you
know, they do this to get

521
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,390
everyone talking, and and to
distract the conversation about

522
00:29:24,390 --> 00:29:27,450
the real stuff. And right down
below the fold to the right of

523
00:29:27,450 --> 00:29:31,380
the the front page story, which
is the even the Financial Times

524
00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:33,960
is saying, oh, you know, did he
really deserve this award?

525
00:29:34,290 --> 00:29:38,040
There's a little story on the
front page, though, that says

526
00:29:38,580 --> 00:29:42,480
that France has arrested a
researcher at the European

527
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,710
Organization for Nuclear
Research that CERN at the Large

528
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:50,160
Hadron Collider due to links
with al Qaeda.

529
00:29:50,340 --> 00:29:51,780
Yeah, so that story,

530
00:29:51,989 --> 00:29:54,659
like, Yeah, that might be the
cover of right there.

531
00:29:55,530 --> 00:29:57,600
I don't think so. I think it's
covering up something else

532
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,670
that's probably not on their
front page at all or even

533
00:29:59,670 --> 00:30:00,330
mention And

534
00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:03,180
Well, there you go. Healthcare
not mentioned on the front page

535
00:30:03,180 --> 00:30:05,880
and Tuesday is this secret vote
John?

536
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,300
What secret vote? Oh, wait, how
did you find out about if it's a

537
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:09,900
secret?

538
00:30:10,110 --> 00:30:12,720
Well, I'm not sitting out the
vote, the fact that they're

539
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,570
doing it is not a secret. That's
why we have to have all this

540
00:30:15,570 --> 00:30:18,960
moon bombing and stuff. So we
don't talk about it. But the

541
00:30:18,990 --> 00:30:24,000
bill, which I don't even think
has a number yet. Here's what

542
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,220
Here's what one of our producers
sent to us. It was very

543
00:30:26,220 --> 00:30:29,880
interesting to me. Because this
is this is all being worked out

544
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,590
by the Finance Committee. Here
we go. The vote is a committee

545
00:30:34,590 --> 00:30:41,070
vote, not a vote of the Senate
are a final conference bill. So

546
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:46,380
it's going to be put into that
shell. Because then the Senate

547
00:30:46,380 --> 00:30:49,890
can't initiate spending bills,
and the house apparently isn't

548
00:30:49,890 --> 00:30:54,750
ready for it. It's it's kind of
a way around the constitutional

549
00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:59,010
requirements somehow. And by the
way, what is the what is the

550
00:30:59,010 --> 00:31:02,790
Senate Finance Committee doing?
With health care? I don't get

551
00:31:02,790 --> 00:31:03,090
it.

552
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:05,940
They have the Finance Committee,
which because it's gonna if it's

553
00:31:05,940 --> 00:31:08,580
going to involve taxpayer money,
or it's going to cost anything.

554
00:31:08,850 --> 00:31:12,090
The finance committees have to
give it the the Okay.

555
00:31:12,930 --> 00:31:15,270
Well, we know it's not going to
cost any money.

556
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:18,270
No, it's going to cost money,
but it might be it's going to

557
00:31:18,270 --> 00:31:20,730
have some impact, either
negative or positive. All all

558
00:31:20,730 --> 00:31:23,070
bills do. So the Finance
Committee, you know, how

559
00:31:23,070 --> 00:31:24,870
significant the only thing is
that finance committee doesn't

560
00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:27,180
deal with is when the when one
of these guys comes up and says,

561
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:36,540
I'd like to declare that January
is the month? Yes, some Yeah,

562
00:31:36,540 --> 00:31:38,190
right. Some bogus, you know,

563
00:31:38,190 --> 00:31:41,970
let's hear what our President
said in his weekly radio address

564
00:31:41,970 --> 00:31:42,900
on YouTube.

565
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:46,950
The historic movement to bring
real meaningful health insurance

566
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:47,280
listen

567
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,770
very carefully to the woods,
John, listen to what he's saying

568
00:31:49,770 --> 00:31:51,210
for him to the American people

569
00:31:51,390 --> 00:31:54,570
gathered momentum this week, as
we approach the final days of

570
00:31:54,570 --> 00:31:57,840
this debate. Having worked on
this issue, for the better part

571
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,390
of a year, the Senate Finance
Committee is finishing

572
00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:03,150
deliberations on their version
of a health. So

573
00:32:03,450 --> 00:32:05,340
their version, right insurance
we're way,

574
00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:09,720
way, way better part of the
year. He said better part of a

575
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,810
year. That's what he said. Yeah,
was it? Well, I guess he's

576
00:32:12,810 --> 00:32:14,340
talking about the nine months.

577
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,580
That's a better part of the
year. Let's listen, let's listen

578
00:32:17,580 --> 00:32:17,970
to more

579
00:32:18,150 --> 00:32:20,940
on this issue. For the better
part of a year, the Senate

580
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:22,380
Finance Committee is finished,
because

581
00:32:22,380 --> 00:32:25,200
the worst part is still ahead.
That's what that really means.

582
00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:28,800
deliberations on their version
of a health insurance reform

583
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,830
bill that will soon be merged
with other reform bills produced

584
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:33,120
by other congressional
committees.

585
00:32:33,150 --> 00:32:37,680
There you go. So it's going to
be merge. Yeah, that's what they

586
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,130
always do. But he didn't say
into a health care bill. That's

587
00:32:41,130 --> 00:32:45,150
the tarp bill that's going to be
merged into play. We play that.

588
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:48,210
Listen very carefully. You gotta
listen to the words, man.

589
00:32:48,210 --> 00:32:48,960
They're so important as

590
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,320
of this debate. Having worked on
this issue for the better part

591
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,900
of a year, the Senate Finance
Committee is finishing

592
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:58,110
deliberations on their version
of a health insurance reform

593
00:32:58,110 --> 00:33:01,140
bill that will soon be merged
with other reform bills produced

594
00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:03,840
by other congressional does say
reform bills, I'm sorry,

595
00:33:03,870 --> 00:33:07,830
committees. After evaluating the
finance committee's bill, the

596
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:10,500
Congressional Budget Office, an
office that provides

597
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:14,310
independent, nonpartisan
analysis concluded that the

598
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:17,490
legislation would make coverage
affordable for millions of

599
00:33:17,490 --> 00:33:20,280
Americans who don't have it
today. It will bring greater

600
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,790
security to Americans who have
coverage with new insurance

601
00:33:23,790 --> 00:33:27,030
protections. And by attacking
waste and fraud within the

602
00:33:27,030 --> 00:33:30,810
system, it will slow the growth
in health care costs without

603
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,640
adding a dime to our deficits.

604
00:33:32,670 --> 00:33:35,970
You know what that sounds a lot
like, John. It sounds like

605
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:44,460
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's
vote for jobs. I'm wondering

606
00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:48,780
whether this is even true. He
said that the budget office

607
00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:54,270
which looks at these things, he
claims that they said that it

608
00:33:54,270 --> 00:33:55,980
will make healthcare affordable?

609
00:33:56,009 --> 00:33:58,229
No, I don't think they said
that. I think they said that

610
00:33:58,229 --> 00:34:01,829
over a year said they said oh
yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I couldn't

611
00:34:01,829 --> 00:34:04,529
find no evidence of that what
the CBO has

612
00:34:04,590 --> 00:34:05,850
just a lie, then.

613
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:09,240
Don't call him a liar. You
racist.

614
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,560
Let's listen fraud within the
system. It will slow the growth

615
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,310
in healthcare costs without
adding a dime to our deficits.

616
00:34:17,850 --> 00:34:20,730
This is another milestone on
what's been a long hard road

617
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,060
towards health insurance reform.
In recent months, we've heard

618
00:34:24,090 --> 00:34:26,850
every side of every argument
from both sides of the aisle

619
00:34:26,909 --> 00:34:30,809
notice it's now health insurance
reform and not healthcare

620
00:34:30,809 --> 00:34:34,889
reform. It's in the nuance that
I find the interesting things

621
00:34:34,949 --> 00:34:35,729
and rightly so.

622
00:34:36,690 --> 00:34:39,780
Health insurance reform is a
complex and critical issue that

623
00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:41,670
deserves a vigorous national
debate.

624
00:34:41,730 --> 00:34:43,470
I'm sorry, he's literally
changing it.

625
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:46,919
Yeah, no. Health insurance
reform is not what we were

626
00:34:46,919 --> 00:34:48,119
supposed to be talking about.

627
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:52,559
It's health care reform, which
is basically getting the farm

628
00:34:53,460 --> 00:34:55,770
farm in health care reform
doesn't make that doesn't

629
00:34:55,770 --> 00:34:58,020
there's no equal sign between
those two phrases.

630
00:34:58,050 --> 00:35:02,160
Nope. No, no. But it's on the
prompter. So let's listen to it

631
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,520
again.

632
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:06,120
And we've had one, the approach
that is emerging includes the

633
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,990
best ideas from Republicans and
Democrats and people across the

634
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:14,130
political spectrum. In fact,
what's remarkable is not that

635
00:35:14,130 --> 00:35:16,890
we've had a spirited debate
about health insurance reform,

636
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,760
but the unprecedented consensus
that has come together behind

637
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,210
it. This consensus encompasses
everyone from doctors and

638
00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:24,720
nurses.

639
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,490
Did you see I forgot to mention
this on Thursday show, and I do

640
00:35:29,490 --> 00:35:31,290
have the link, although I didn't
put it in the show notes. I put

641
00:35:31,290 --> 00:35:34,920
it in for this week. They had a
rose garden conference with

642
00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:38,880
like, 50 doctors, you know, one
from each state. And, you know,

643
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,430
when you get invited to the
White House, I've had one invite

644
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:44,880
couldn't go unfortunately, you
know, you dress up, right? You

645
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,850
look nice. And you're like,
Yeah, I'm dude, I'm gonna go sit

646
00:35:47,850 --> 00:35:50,850
in the Rose Garden and the
President is going to speak and

647
00:35:50,850 --> 00:35:53,640
so all these doctors were
sitting there and they it must

648
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,370
have been Axelrod are someone
who said, hey, you know, you

649
00:35:56,370 --> 00:35:59,040
guys don't look like doctors.
And they literally handed out

650
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,280
white lab coats and they all had
to wear like, like white lab

651
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,110
coats for the for the photo op.

652
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,810
Yeah. And there's something
fishy about these doctors all

653
00:36:06,810 --> 00:36:10,500
part of sub one cliques, one
organization, that is a very

654
00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:13,980
left wing leaning group. I mean,
this whole thing was a photo it

655
00:36:13,980 --> 00:36:16,560
was it was a bunch of stages. I
mean, it was ridiculous. By the

656
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,350
way, somebody just reported to
me that they say the stream is

657
00:36:19,350 --> 00:36:20,760
down. Oh, really?

658
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:25,289
No, it seems to be working here.
Okay, well, let me just double

659
00:36:25,289 --> 00:36:31,259
check. What's worse worth a
quick check? No, no, that's

660
00:36:31,259 --> 00:36:35,219
connected. That must be a local
thing. Okay. It's probably at&t

661
00:36:35,399 --> 00:36:40,469
fucking with us. A little bit
more of the President. It's kind

662
00:36:40,469 --> 00:36:41,699
of interesting, isn't it? When
you

663
00:36:42,540 --> 00:36:45,810
find some other changes that he
says that all of a sudden we've

664
00:36:45,810 --> 00:36:48,510
changed from healthcare to
health insurance,

665
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:50,400
health insurance reform, it's
something

666
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,970
new hospitals and drug
manufacturers. And earlier this

667
00:36:53,970 --> 00:36:57,360
week, Governor Arnold
Schwarzenegger of California and

668
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,330
New York City Mayor Michael
Bloomberg came out in support of

669
00:37:00,330 --> 00:37:01,200
reform. Yeah, this

670
00:37:01,230 --> 00:37:04,980
this was a big win. This was and
of course, they said the

671
00:37:04,980 --> 00:37:07,770
Schwarzenegger was pretty easy
peasy. Hey, schwarzsee. Baby.

672
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,550
You already got like 30 billion
in stimulus coming. Do you want

673
00:37:11,550 --> 00:37:15,120
to go down as the governor that
was there when the state failed?

674
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:18,360
Or do you want some more help? I
mean, that was an easy one. That

675
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,400
was a shoo in. And Bloomberg,

676
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:22,439
New York. I mean, they could
probably do the same thing and

677
00:37:22,439 --> 00:37:25,169
get your will California we have
our three systems in place

678
00:37:25,169 --> 00:37:30,059
already. But the seams Yeah, you
could. Yeah, yeah. New York's

679
00:37:30,059 --> 00:37:33,539
gonna be a bankrupt state. You
with me or against me?

680
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,460
If you're Oh, how

681
00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:38,610
hard is it decision? Is it oh,
he's on our side. Yeah.

682
00:37:39,150 --> 00:37:43,860
It's like Ring ring. Hello. Hey,
it's rom here. I got an offer

683
00:37:43,860 --> 00:37:46,560
you can't refuse. That was

684
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,470
easy. joining two former
Republican Senate Majority

685
00:37:49,470 --> 00:37:54,090
Leader's Bob Dole. And Dr. Bill
Frist, himself, a cardiac

686
00:37:54,090 --> 00:37:57,420
surgeon, Dr. Louis Sullivan,
Secretary of Health and Human

687
00:37:57,420 --> 00:38:01,410
Services under President George
HW Bush supports reform.

688
00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:04,830
I like I like her the nuance
there. Look, even Bush's guys

689
00:38:04,830 --> 00:38:07,170
like it even pushes guys,

690
00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:11,520
as does Republican Tommy
Thompson, a former Wisconsin

691
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,400
governor and Secretary of Health
and Human Services under

692
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,110
President George W. Bush. See
Bush's guys love it. These

693
00:38:19,110 --> 00:38:22,200
distinguished leaders understand
that health insurance reform

694
00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:24,870
isn't a Democratic issue or
should ensure it's

695
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:28,320
again Yeah, because it's they've
changed the job. It's a bait and

696
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,260
switch right there. A bada boom,
it's a shell game,

697
00:38:31,889 --> 00:38:34,799
help bait and switch and
nobody's picked? I haven't heard

698
00:38:34,799 --> 00:38:37,529
this speech. But nobody's picked
up on this in the media. You're

699
00:38:37,529 --> 00:38:37,979
telling me?

700
00:38:39,060 --> 00:38:43,050
Yep. Because more important is
to talk about the Nobel Peace

701
00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:46,530
Prize. Oh, yeah. And that's the
switch baby. That's the switch.

702
00:38:46,650 --> 00:38:49,410
While we weren't looking, they
switched it from health care

703
00:38:49,410 --> 00:38:53,610
reform to health insurance
reform. That's the switch

704
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,120
covered up by a moon bombing and
a Nobel Peace Prize

705
00:38:57,149 --> 00:39:01,379
American issue that demands a
solution. Still, there's some in

706
00:39:01,379 --> 00:39:04,109
Washington today who seemed
determined to play the same old

707
00:39:04,109 --> 00:39:07,409
partisan politics, you know, the
racist, working to score

708
00:39:07,409 --> 00:39:10,349
political points, even if it
means burdening this country

709
00:39:10,499 --> 00:39:14,099
with an unsustainable status
quo. The status quo of rising

710
00:39:14,099 --> 00:39:16,109
healthcare costs that are
crushing our families, our

711
00:39:16,109 --> 00:39:19,499
businesses and our government, a
status quo of diminishing

712
00:39:19,499 --> 00:39:22,409
coverage that's denying millions
of hardworking Americans

713
00:39:22,439 --> 00:39:26,039
insurance they need Yeah, a
status quo that gives big

714
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:29,459
insurance companies the power to
make arbitrary decisions about

715
00:39:29,459 --> 00:39:31,709
your health care. See, it's all
about insurance as the status

716
00:39:31,709 --> 00:39:35,429
quo I reject. And that's the
status quo. The American people

717
00:39:35,459 --> 00:39:39,269
reject the distinguished former
congressional leaders who urged

718
00:39:39,269 --> 00:39:41,159
us to act on health insurance
almost

719
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,060
over insurance reform and again,
you saying it again, dork moment

720
00:39:45,060 --> 00:39:45,150
at

721
00:39:45,150 --> 00:39:49,410
hand, and reminded us that this
moment will not soon come again.

722
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,310
They call on members of both
parties to seize this

723
00:39:53,310 --> 00:39:56,490
opportunity to finally confront
a problem that has plagued us

724
00:39:56,490 --> 00:40:00,240
for far too long. That is what
we are called to do at This

725
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:02,910
moment, that is the spirit of
national purpose.

726
00:40:02,940 --> 00:40:06,150
This is bogus. I mean, all we
have to do is have a Insurance

727
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:06,630
Commissioner.

728
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:10,979
Politics problem. Yep. Now's the
time to come together as

729
00:40:10,979 --> 00:40:15,179
Americans. Now's the time to
meet our responsibilities to

730
00:40:15,179 --> 00:40:19,439
ourselves and to our children,
and secure a better, healthier

731
00:40:19,439 --> 00:40:24,209
future bringing the kids to that
future is within our grasp. Yes.

732
00:40:24,209 --> 00:40:25,409
So let's go finish the Donita.

733
00:40:25,410 --> 00:40:27,930
Yay. At the end of that one, I'm
going to send you that clip.

734
00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:29,220
Yay.

735
00:40:29,580 --> 00:40:37,110
Well, part so I do have some
details on what the Senate

736
00:40:37,110 --> 00:40:40,560
Finance Committee has been
working on. This is the Maximo

737
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:44,970
you know, I don't see why dude.
Let's face it. This is the story

738
00:40:44,970 --> 00:40:47,700
is this is that no, that what
else we have? I mean, this is

739
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:50,310
like, you've bummed me out with
this.

740
00:40:50,340 --> 00:40:52,710
Let me just tell you one thing
that will really bummed me out.

741
00:40:53,820 --> 00:40:58,410
There will be penalties. I've
been bumped out the buzzkill

742
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:05,430
Dude, that's huge. There will be
if you have a gun, if you own a

743
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:10,650
gun, then there will be
penalties on you. For what?

744
00:41:12,090 --> 00:41:18,840
Okay, wait. Let me tell you
before you lay into a dangerous

745
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:25,470
activities. Here, coverage
prescribed by the administration

746
00:41:25,470 --> 00:41:29,160
will to control costs exclude
coverage for what it regards as

747
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:37,830
excessively dangerous activities
such as hunting? What yes, if

748
00:41:37,830 --> 00:41:42,990
you keep a firearm in the
household for hunting, self

749
00:41:42,990 --> 00:41:50,100
defense or killing people that
will be regarded as excessively

750
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:58,290
dangerous activity and coverage
may be excluded. Or

751
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,879
more people get injured playing
basketball.

752
00:42:02,969 --> 00:42:06,449
More people get injured in the
bathroom. But if you have a gun

753
00:42:06,449 --> 00:42:11,999
in the home, no service for you.
Interesting, isn't it?

754
00:42:12,750 --> 00:42:15,840
Oh, that's a total scam. Where'd
you get that one? That's a good

755
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,690
one. I gave you a 10 That's your
debt your we need a little

756
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:20,190
jingle for your education.

757
00:42:20,850 --> 00:42:23,700
When I really when I really got
one. Well, let's just put it

758
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:27,780
this way. We don't pull any
punches. In fact, we do quite

759
00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:32,550
the opposite. Our formula is
this. We go out. We get people

760
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:36,210
in the mouth. Whenever I do

761
00:42:36,210 --> 00:42:38,880
something good. I get to play
that one. It's the drums that

762
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,660
make that work.

763
00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:43,109
It really is. It's crazy. It's
crazy.

764
00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:46,920
That is totally nuts. That's
amazing. Now that so I suppose

765
00:42:47,130 --> 00:42:51,330
that the you know while the
right wingers on their talk

766
00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:52,560
shows are going

767
00:42:52,590 --> 00:42:56,010
berserk over the Nobel Peace
Prize. Peace Prize.

768
00:42:56,010 --> 00:42:59,970
They kind of ignore this because
that's beautiful.

769
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:06,660
Yeah. Anyway right now it's time
to reveal something that I'm

770
00:43:06,660 --> 00:43:08,820
sure you're all over. John. I
haven't checked your blog

771
00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:13,680
devora.org/blog See if you've
posted this but missing a for

772
00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:18,180
beauty queen missing a poor
world has given up her crown

773
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:23,070
already. Yes, she's given up her
crown after it has emerged. She

774
00:43:23,070 --> 00:43:27,120
had stolen credit cards to go on
a shopping spree for lingerie.

775
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:34,050
Hmm, well, let me get this
straight. Here's not dropped

776
00:43:34,050 --> 00:43:37,710
dead knockout chick from
Singapore. Yeah. Who could

777
00:43:37,710 --> 00:43:42,150
probably have any guy she
wanted? Yeah. And she's got

778
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:44,850
stolen credit cards to buy
lingerie when when she could

779
00:43:44,850 --> 00:43:47,760
probably get all the lingerie
she ever wanted in the world if

780
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,780
she just put up a website. Yeah.
Organizing sense.

781
00:43:51,810 --> 00:43:55,470
Organizers of the CRM world
marketing pageant said she had

782
00:43:55,470 --> 00:43:59,280
resigned Tuesday of her own
accord. She will no longer

783
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,460
represent Singapore at the Miss
World Finals to be held in South

784
00:44:02,460 --> 00:44:05,580
Africa in December. It's a
travesty.

785
00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:10,530
What's in this pre did the last
one is this a new old story?

786
00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:16,770
Candidate on that story
September 30. She bought when

787
00:44:16,770 --> 00:44:22,080
they just did was in South
Africa when they can't keep

788
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:22,500
track of all

789
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,260
South Africa when

790
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:29,940
Well, I thought somebody Yeah,
maybe. Maybe that's what it

791
00:44:31,050 --> 00:44:34,500
sounds bogus. bogus. I call
bogus.

792
00:44:35,369 --> 00:44:39,479
Here's I'll tell you what's
really bogus. So of course, a

793
00:44:39,869 --> 00:44:44,789
horribly a 14 year old girl died
after receiving the Sarah Vic's

794
00:44:44,819 --> 00:44:53,549
HPV cervical cancer vaccination.
And within like 15 minutes she

795
00:44:53,579 --> 00:44:55,109
she went into coma and die.

796
00:44:55,140 --> 00:44:57,360
It's just the same story that
you just ran two weeks ago, the

797
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,190
girl in England. This is about
the

798
00:44:59,190 --> 00:45:01,620
girl in England and Of course
you know they had this they

799
00:45:01,620 --> 00:45:07,110
stopped vaccinations and like oh
no this this this can go on this

800
00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:10,290
is dangerous but you know that
can happen because look at all

801
00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:12,810
the expensive marketing
materials have already bought we

802
00:45:12,810 --> 00:45:15,450
have to continue with the with
the program because we can't

803
00:45:15,450 --> 00:45:19,830
just stop it a UK. So the
pathologist has confirmed today

804
00:45:19,830 --> 00:45:21,690
at the opening of the inquest
into the death of Natalie

805
00:45:21,690 --> 00:45:24,720
Morton. She died from a large
malignant tumor of unknown

806
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:29,880
origin in the heart and lungs.
unknown origin

807
00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:33,990
she had a big tumor in her heart
and lungs. Yeah,

808
00:45:34,050 --> 00:45:37,380
and that and that's why she died
after she received the vaccine.

809
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,990
So in other words, what you're
saying or what they're saying,

810
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:41,640
is that just a coincidence.

811
00:45:43,260 --> 00:45:47,490
Oh, crap. I'm not fast enough on
the accidents? I think not.

812
00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:51,690
Yeah, exactly. And so now of
course, the program has been

813
00:45:51,690 --> 00:45:55,950
reinstituted reinstated. Hey,
keep on rockin people

814
00:45:57,929 --> 00:46:00,659
so what other depressing news do
you have for us on this lovely

815
00:46:00,659 --> 00:46:01,529
Saturday night?

816
00:46:02,310 --> 00:46:06,930
Well, we it to down one to go or
one down one more to go actually

817
00:46:06,990 --> 00:46:13,500
Polish president Lech Kaczynski
signed the and ratified the

818
00:46:13,530 --> 00:46:18,990
Lisbon Treaty. So all we need
now is for the Czech guy to sign

819
00:46:18,990 --> 00:46:22,920
up and Tony Blair can become
president of Euro the world.

820
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,920
Well, the Czech guy is ready to
ready to, to to fold because he

821
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,640
just says there's only one thing
he wants. And apparently, you

822
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,860
know, it's been done before. I
think England and a few other

823
00:46:34,860 --> 00:46:37,110
people, there's these little
provisos they put into the

824
00:46:37,110 --> 00:46:41,040
constitution that's specific to
certain countries. And the one

825
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,240
for the Czech Republic is that
they can't be found liable based

826
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:50,910
on EU law for all the Germans
that they rousted, after World

827
00:46:50,910 --> 00:46:54,420
War Two from the country, which
they're fearful that would

828
00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:57,810
become sort of a kind of a
financial issue with them.

829
00:46:58,260 --> 00:47:01,200
Wow. Yeah. Well, this, this
island had a whole bunch of

830
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,010
things in there, which I think
included a lot of tax. Ireland,

831
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,470
of course, is the country that
so far has received the most

832
00:47:07,470 --> 00:47:11,730
money from the EU, and is a it's
a tax haven. It's a beautiful

833
00:47:11,730 --> 00:47:15,600
place for manufacturing. Apple
has a huge factory there.

834
00:47:16,619 --> 00:47:20,999
I think a lot, but there's a
couple of stories that reveal

835
00:47:20,999 --> 00:47:25,739
that. As good as Ireland was for
all this, many of the same

836
00:47:25,739 --> 00:47:29,549
companies picked up, you know,
pull up their tents and went to

837
00:47:29,549 --> 00:47:31,589
Poland, because it was even
cheaper there.

838
00:47:31,620 --> 00:47:35,880
Well, it was cheaper. But
there's too many. There's a lot

839
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,500
of Polish there. can just, I can
just hear comic strip blogger

840
00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:46,650
writing and hate. As we speak. I
couldn't resist this Polish

841
00:47:46,650 --> 00:47:46,950
people.

842
00:47:46,980 --> 00:47:50,100
Your shout out by Tim Curry, you
are American shut up about you.

843
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:51,210
You're no nothing.

844
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:57,600
Yeah, so it'll be interesting.
And, you know, we've kind of

845
00:47:57,630 --> 00:48:01,500
drifted away from the whole
debate, but of course two years

846
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:04,290
ago, and remember, it was the
Dutch and the French who

847
00:48:04,290 --> 00:48:07,980
originally said no. And then
well, that wasn't good enough.

848
00:48:07,980 --> 00:48:10,860
So we just won't let's just go
have them vote again, but not

849
00:48:10,860 --> 00:48:14,070
actually have the people in a
referendum. But let's just have

850
00:48:14,070 --> 00:48:17,850
the representatives vote. And
then of course, it was passed

851
00:48:17,850 --> 00:48:22,890
and ratified. Same in same in
France. And then the Irish said

852
00:48:22,890 --> 00:48:25,650
no. And then it was like, well,
let's just have a do over. And

853
00:48:25,650 --> 00:48:28,320
then you know, of course, a huge
money came out and everyone was

854
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,860
probably, you know, they got no
job. There's all kinds of crap

855
00:48:31,860 --> 00:48:35,880
going on. So no one's really
paying attention. And maybe they

856
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:41,790
used, you know, rigged voting
machines. But it's if you when

857
00:48:41,790 --> 00:48:45,570
you read the Lisbon Treaty,
which is essentially the

858
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:50,550
European Constitution pulled
apart in all kinds of legalese.

859
00:48:50,550 --> 00:48:54,150
And I did take the time to read
through this. It References

860
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:57,900
Footnotes, and these footnotes
are critically important because

861
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,900
they tell you what the actual
laws will be. And just one of

862
00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:04,410
them is about the death penalty.
So a big thing is no one in

863
00:49:04,410 --> 00:49:07,200
Europe wants a death penalty. So
according to the Lisbon Treaty,

864
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,740
there's no death penalty. And
last point to footnote which you

865
00:49:10,740 --> 00:49:16,050
have to go download from some
other website, unless there is a

866
00:49:16,050 --> 00:49:18,270
situation of unrest.

867
00:49:21,420 --> 00:49:24,480
What does that mean? Is it
defined no forced arrest? No

868
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:25,200
fire snap?

869
00:49:25,290 --> 00:49:27,780
That's the whole point. Of
course it isn't. That will be

870
00:49:27,780 --> 00:49:31,830
defined by Tony Blair up we have
unrest and then all of a sudden

871
00:49:31,860 --> 00:49:34,680
the death penalty is going to be
okay. It's all kinds of little

872
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,970
gotchas like this. If you have a
you can be incarcerated if

873
00:49:38,970 --> 00:49:42,780
you're an alcoholic or a drug
addict, or if you have a

874
00:49:42,810 --> 00:49:47,550
communicable disease. You know,
like, I don't know, swine flu.

875
00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:50,940
There's all these little things
in there. I mean, that's going

876
00:49:50,940 --> 00:49:55,050
to be the true Gitmo state where
the minute the check dude folds.

877
00:49:55,050 --> 00:49:57,060
It's all over and of course,
he's going to fold he has no

878
00:49:57,060 --> 00:50:01,350
choice in the matter. Oh, yeah,
no choice. And they'd like to do

879
00:50:01,350 --> 00:50:07,080
it by Well, I guess, you know,
the Tony Blair thing is supposed

880
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,260
to happen pretty soon if they
can, if they can get the Czech

881
00:50:10,260 --> 00:50:13,380
Republic to ratify then Tony
Blair could be in very quickly

882
00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:15,450
and it's going to come down
because the way the voting

883
00:50:15,450 --> 00:50:18,840
system works basically Germany
and France determine everything.

884
00:50:19,860 --> 00:50:24,030
So it'll be in there. It'll be
Angela Merkel, who will have to

885
00:50:24,030 --> 00:50:29,730
push the button and she's gonna
say yes. That's obvious. Tony

886
00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:30,450
Blair

887
00:50:32,070 --> 00:50:36,480
Yeah, that's pretty weird. You
know, who wouldn't? I mean, the

888
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,540
modern Hitler's gonna be a guy
like Tony Blair. I mean, that's

889
00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:40,440
just obviously it.

890
00:50:40,530 --> 00:50:44,760
Goddamn. Let me just let me just
mark that that was beautiful

891
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:49,140
John. The modern Hitler is going
to be someone like Tony Blair

892
00:50:49,140 --> 00:50:52,890
kind of being on love that great
statement. John C. Dvorak, New

893
00:50:52,890 --> 00:50:59,550
York Times. Since we get so much
flak for not covering Europe,

894
00:50:59,550 --> 00:51:02,520
there does seem to be a lot of
Gitmo nation East News coming

895
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:09,240
our way. Namely cruce our friend
the anti competition, or

896
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,790
competition Commissioner, I
guess we should say of the

897
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:16,140
camp anti competition. anti
American.

898
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,060
Yeah, she's going after Google
and IBM now.

899
00:51:22,739 --> 00:51:25,439
Well, everybody's going after
IBM. But the thing about the IBM

900
00:51:25,439 --> 00:51:28,769
Yeah, it started here. And so
she can't let us actually do

901
00:51:28,769 --> 00:51:31,979
anything that would but the IBM
thing seems to be like another

902
00:51:31,979 --> 00:51:35,429
one of these don't look here
deals is this it's a total scam.

903
00:51:35,429 --> 00:51:37,649
What are they going after?
Right? They're going after IBM

904
00:51:37,649 --> 00:51:41,729
for abusing its its market
position to sell mainframes. So

905
00:51:41,729 --> 00:51:46,529
mainframes against who who else
sells mainframes? Yeah, nobody

906
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:49,649
any see I mean, I don't even
know makes him any more. I think

907
00:51:49,649 --> 00:51:52,289
you're right. It's like
ridiculous. And then of course,

908
00:51:52,289 --> 00:51:55,139
Google, you know, is going to be
the target just a never ending

909
00:51:55,139 --> 00:51:58,199
target because of because the
fact that nobody can make a

910
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:01,649
search engine is good. And I
don't know the whole thing is

911
00:52:01,769 --> 00:52:02,399
crazy.

912
00:52:02,429 --> 00:52:04,799
Well, she's gonna start finding
them big money. That's how you

913
00:52:04,799 --> 00:52:08,399
siphon off money. Get it into
the and what happens to that

914
00:52:08,399 --> 00:52:11,159
money when you get a billion
dollars from Microsoft? Where

915
00:52:11,159 --> 00:52:12,719
does it go? Who didn't goes

916
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:15,870
into the miter and coffers for
their pedophile thing?

917
00:52:16,739 --> 00:52:21,689
John, oh, my god, I'm so proud
of you. You're doing so well,

918
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,469
because I saw that stories and
we're gonna bring this one out.

919
00:52:26,879 --> 00:52:30,119
Basic Theory that the entire
Europe is a bunch of pedophiles.

920
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:30,479
Yeah,

921
00:52:30,510 --> 00:52:32,970
yeah. The top of the
politicians. Yeah, that is

922
00:52:32,970 --> 00:52:35,760
pretty much it. What was the mid
Ron story? Do you have it there

923
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,200
by any chance? Yeah. Hello,

924
00:52:41,489 --> 00:52:44,009
John. Sorry. Somebody rang the
phone.

925
00:52:45,869 --> 00:52:48,389
Do you have the meter on story?
Do you have a something

926
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:51,120
I don't have. It was
Mitterrand's, one of his cousins

927
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,670
or I forgot who it was. He's
like one of the ministers in

928
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:55,920
France. Mitterrand's a big
family. It's like one of the

929
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,920
most powerful families in
Europe. And I guess he was

930
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,570
busted for some somewhat low he
went to on a one of those sex

931
00:53:03,570 --> 00:53:12,810
tours to the Philippines. And he
says no new. He didn't go on a

932
00:53:12,810 --> 00:53:16,920
sex tour. It was all it was all
young adults. You know, there's

933
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,370
all legal and so I don't know
what the details are, but it

934
00:53:20,370 --> 00:53:24,060
seems pretty sketchy. Yeah, no,
but he was right. He was I read

935
00:53:24,060 --> 00:53:28,050
it up there you go. There's the
upper crust of Europe. You know,

936
00:53:28,140 --> 00:53:32,550
it's true man. That's and you
know, the Fortis bank this the

937
00:53:32,580 --> 00:53:36,360
lipids, brothers, they're all
fucking pedophiles. And there's

938
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,220
so much evidence. There's
there's so much evidence they've

939
00:53:41,250 --> 00:53:44,520
video of these guys in parks
with picking out boys, you know,

940
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,750
and, and like they're, you know,
they're assigned drivers suicide

941
00:53:48,750 --> 00:53:52,200
themselves, you know, it's
crazy, man. It's just crazy.

942
00:53:52,530 --> 00:53:56,130
Yeah, this isn't covered much by
the New York Times. Fact I'm

943
00:53:56,130 --> 00:54:01,140
actually stunned that this thing
was even mentioned anywhere. And

944
00:54:01,140 --> 00:54:04,200
of course, he's you know,
denying everything. Of course. I

945
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,260
was in it when I was in cognac
some time and about 20 years

946
00:54:07,260 --> 00:54:13,020
ago. I was roaming around the
cellars of Hennessey's there

947
00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:16,260
parody. Sellersville is 100 year
old barrels filled with cold

948
00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:19,290
cognac. And on every one of the
barrels. There's the name of the

949
00:54:19,290 --> 00:54:23,220
grower that distilled it or had
it and there was Mitterrand, I

950
00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:26,670
guess Demeter and family has a
huge holding in the cognac area

951
00:54:26,670 --> 00:54:31,020
where they where they grow the
Guney Blanc and distill it into

952
00:54:31,020 --> 00:54:37,320
a cognac used by the best cognac
blenders. Okay, sorry, just to

953
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:37,830
mention, so

954
00:54:37,830 --> 00:54:41,790
bully on them. They can't be all
bad. All right, just like Kim

955
00:54:41,790 --> 00:54:44,430
Jong Il has a nice Cabernet
selection. I mean,

956
00:54:44,460 --> 00:54:48,600
yes, I know. And I would just
love to sit down and sample some

957
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:55,050
the Latour and discuss it with
him. Let's see, but somebody who

958
00:54:55,050 --> 00:54:59,460
could probably make that happen,
has done nothing in that regard.

959
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,600
Seeing him in November. Don't
worry, I'm working on it seeing

960
00:55:03,630 --> 00:55:05,460
I'm seeing uncle Don in
November.

961
00:55:05,820 --> 00:55:07,860
Yeah. And I can see how this
meeting is going to and you're

962
00:55:07,860 --> 00:55:12,930
gonna walk away he's gonna slap
yourself in the lap. I forgot to

963
00:55:12,930 --> 00:55:13,650
mention this that

964
00:55:13,650 --> 00:55:16,170
John, I'm not going to forget
I'm going to get the am

965
00:55:16,170 --> 00:55:20,040
absolutely going to say listen,
Uncle Don, I know you're real

966
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,950
busy. We're like keeping the
Koreans from bombing us and

967
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:26,070
shit. But could you think you
could hook up my friend for a

968
00:55:26,070 --> 00:55:27,360
little Cabernet tasting?

969
00:55:27,389 --> 00:55:31,289
Yeah, yeah, right. marginalize
the idea trivialize and make fun

970
00:55:31,289 --> 00:55:31,559
of me.

971
00:55:31,590 --> 00:55:34,950
He might actually say, You know
what? That's interesting. Bill's

972
00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:41,910
going over to get some more note
eating journalists. Who knows?

973
00:55:42,659 --> 00:55:45,449
No, no teaching shortlist

974
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,470
radar man from the Netherlands
wrote in and said, Hey, I've

975
00:55:49,470 --> 00:55:51,960
heard you guys mentioning about
the Dutch wanting their bicycles

976
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,420
back from the Germans who took
them in World War Two. I just

977
00:55:54,420 --> 00:55:57,120
want you to know I know where
they took them. Well, he knows

978
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,020
what the bikes are.

979
00:55:58,530 --> 00:56:00,990
Dip. Likes are still there. He

980
00:56:00,990 --> 00:56:03,780
says look, back in the early
70s. While in the Air Force, I

981
00:56:03,780 --> 00:56:06,240
was a member of a radar
installation team that went to

982
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:09,780
Tempelhof Air Force Base in
Berlin to set up a new ATC radar

983
00:56:09,780 --> 00:56:12,360
system. If you've been to
Berlin, you know, Tempelhof is

984
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,510
huge, which is true it is it's
amazing one mile long from end

985
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:17,490
to end. absolutely the most
fascinating building I've ever

986
00:56:17,490 --> 00:56:20,700
been in. I think that just close
that actually. Which makes sense

987
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:23,850
when I read this story. So to
run new cables for the radar, we

988
00:56:23,850 --> 00:56:26,820
drilled through a wall with a
big concrete drill we punched

989
00:56:26,820 --> 00:56:28,950
through but the guys on the
other side said they couldn't

990
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:31,980
see the drill bit coming out.
After some investigation. We

991
00:56:31,980 --> 00:56:36,120
found out the prints were wrong.
There was a huge room completely

992
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,590
walled off that was filled with
hundreds of bikes with those big

993
00:56:40,590 --> 00:56:41,670
baskets.

994
00:56:44,070 --> 00:56:45,510
That's a Dutch bike. Yeah.

995
00:56:45,870 --> 00:56:48,720
The guess is that in World War
Two Tempelhof was under

996
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:52,020
construction repairs while I was
being bombed the wrong room got

997
00:56:52,020 --> 00:56:55,380
sealed up by mistake. And last
10 years later, he says he went

998
00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:57,840
back to Tempelhof several times
discovered the bikes had been

999
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,560
liberated, and refurbished by
the base for use by Air Force

1000
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,430
personnel. Everyone from base
admin troops to base plumbers

1001
00:57:05,430 --> 00:57:08,760
and electricians use them to get
around. So if anyone wants to

1002
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,930
know where the where your bike
is, it's in Berlin. Hmm.

1003
00:57:12,989 --> 00:57:14,459
Well, that's it put it to good
use. Yeah,

1004
00:57:14,460 --> 00:57:15,660
that's good information.

1005
00:57:15,959 --> 00:57:19,859
Yeah. I mean, one of the many
untold stories we have here for

1006
00:57:19,859 --> 00:57:21,599
you on no agenda. And

1007
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,830
you know, what we, we work hard
at collecting them. We work hard

1008
00:57:25,830 --> 00:57:28,230
to disseminate this, this is
actually something you could put

1009
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:31,080
on the History Channel. That
story about those bikes. If we

1010
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,780
had some pictures or video, you
could do a half hour show on

1011
00:57:33,780 --> 00:57:34,590
that easy,

1012
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,310
yo, da, and it'd be just as
fascinating as anything else on

1013
00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:42,180
the Hidden History Channel. It
HD. So I'm looking at the

1014
00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:45,630
History Channel website, because
they have a phony baloney thing

1015
00:57:45,630 --> 00:57:49,410
about Thanksgiving because one
of my one of my one of our

1016
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:55,020
producers mentioned that, that
we should at least say that this

1017
00:57:55,020 --> 00:57:59,760
weekend is Thanksgiving weekend
in Canada. And of course, the

1018
00:57:59,790 --> 00:58:04,170
coincidence is that their
Thanksgiving falls exactly on

1019
00:58:04,170 --> 00:58:08,940
the Monday that we have Columbus
Day. So I guess the banks don't

1020
00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:10,830
have to you know, so there's no
problem with somebody.

1021
00:58:11,580 --> 00:58:15,600
I think, you know, many people
think that this is going to be

1022
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,030
the big bank weekend where shit
goes wrong. You know, this

1023
00:58:18,030 --> 00:58:22,440
Columbus Day weekend, though.
Really? Yeah. Yeah. Because

1024
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:29,130
that's what I was waiting to
posit. Todo no crap. Just made a

1025
00:58:29,130 --> 00:58:32,850
deposit. No, this is this is the
theory because that's kind of

1026
00:58:32,850 --> 00:58:36,150
how it went in. In the Great
Depression is they had a bank

1027
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:39,060
holiday weekend and boom, you
know, of course, they didn't

1028
00:58:39,060 --> 00:58:42,600
have ATMs then But then all the
banks just never reopened on

1029
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,710
that Tuesday. Oh, Shaw. I'm just
saying

1030
00:58:47,340 --> 00:58:51,840
this there's no evidence that
anything's going on. Oh, yeah.

1031
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:54,480
And you'll be right and we can
talk about it on Thursday.

1032
00:58:54,509 --> 00:58:56,519
Oh, there's nothing going on.
Yeah, that's right. There's

1033
00:58:56,519 --> 00:59:00,029
nothing going on whatsoever.
Nothing to see here.

1034
00:59:00,270 --> 00:59:04,470
The markets going up. So here's
an interesting story that did

1035
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:07,920
came up missing sidekick dated
somebody put put this on

1036
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,810
Twitter. So I thought I'd
mentioned it and I'm probably

1037
00:59:09,810 --> 00:59:12,270
not going to be doing twit this
week. And because Leo is in

1038
00:59:12,570 --> 00:59:14,520
Dubai buying gold. Well,

1039
00:59:14,550 --> 00:59:17,520
no, no, we know what he's really
doing in Dubai. We know all

1040
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,310
about Dubai. Don't worry, John.
We know what's happening in the

1041
00:59:20,310 --> 00:59:21,480
underground of Dubai.

1042
00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:28,259
Okay, so somebody sent us
sensing the cloud computing just

1043
00:59:28,259 --> 00:59:31,919
shows you the dangers of cloud
computing it looks like the T

1044
00:59:31,919 --> 00:59:35,009
Mobile system running if you
have one of those sidekick

1045
00:59:35,009 --> 00:59:38,009
danger things that keep the
keeps all the data on some

1046
00:59:38,009 --> 00:59:40,859
server someplace and they said
the servers went down lost all

1047
00:59:40,859 --> 00:59:44,129
your names and addresses all
your data which is you know this

1048
00:59:44,159 --> 00:59:47,549
does kind of thing does happen
but they've said that they may

1049
00:59:47,549 --> 00:59:52,469
never get their data back. I
love that this is a Microsoft

1050
00:59:52,469 --> 00:59:55,919
subsidiary danger by the way so
server error me just read this

1051
00:59:55,919 --> 00:59:59,129
it says that because of a server
error it danger a Microsoft

1052
00:59:59,129 --> 01:00:02,789
subsidiary They bought them. The
fact that users might not get

1053
01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:06,299
their data back at all. Do these
people know what backing up is?

1054
01:00:06,329 --> 01:00:11,549
Yeah, no, I think the thumb
drive was full. Right? They ran

1055
01:00:11,549 --> 01:00:16,469
out of thumb drives. It's
unbelievable.

1056
01:00:16,589 --> 01:00:20,759
So that means that so I guess
they have a cloud servers that

1057
01:00:20,759 --> 01:00:23,579
tracks all of your contacts.
It's not stored locally on your

1058
01:00:23,609 --> 01:00:25,469
on your phone or on your device.

1059
01:00:26,129 --> 01:00:29,609
That's what it sounds like. I
mean, I don't use the this

1060
01:00:29,609 --> 01:00:30,299
system. But

1061
01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:32,880
apparently, where's the tech
press on that?

1062
01:00:33,449 --> 01:00:36,059
It's all over the place to take
presses jumping all over it. So

1063
01:00:36,059 --> 01:00:38,729
it's not like it's being
covered, believe me.

1064
01:00:39,209 --> 01:00:43,349
You want to hear Chris Rock
about Roman Polanski? Yeah, go

1065
01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:45,929
for it. Because this was on the
Jay Leno Show, which I think as

1066
01:00:45,929 --> 01:00:50,519
lost 70% of his initial
audience. Oh, yeah. For sure.

1067
01:00:50,519 --> 01:00:53,399
That's a failure. Right. I mean,
can we just consider this to be

1068
01:00:53,759 --> 01:00:56,579
dead? Yeah, you know, the night
this is kind of funny. The night

1069
01:00:56,579 --> 01:01:00,149
that Leno came out, after you
know, he first he made the

1070
01:01:00,149 --> 01:01:05,399
admission about his affair, or
in the blackmail, that it was

1071
01:01:05,399 --> 01:01:08,219
either that night or that for
the following Monday. His

1072
01:01:08,219 --> 01:01:12,089
ratings on the Late Night Show
which starts at 1130 We're a

1073
01:01:12,089 --> 01:01:17,069
higher than London, any show on
NBC the entire day,

1074
01:01:17,549 --> 01:01:21,419
to their trouble. I mean, that
what's going to happen that they

1075
01:01:21,419 --> 01:01:24,809
can't afford? Where are the
affiliates and all this? Aren't

1076
01:01:24,809 --> 01:01:25,949
the affiliates affiliates?

1077
01:01:26,790 --> 01:01:29,190
Teamed up? They're gonna they're
already starting to decide to

1078
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:31,080
bump Lin on run old reruns.

1079
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:35,459
Oh my gosh. Oh, wow. Well, then
I was gonna retire a rich man.

1080
01:01:35,669 --> 01:01:37,919
Now here we retire rich man. And
NBC is going to show what a

1081
01:01:37,919 --> 01:01:40,379
bunch of dummies they are. Like
somebody was right. I think it

1082
01:01:40,379 --> 01:01:42,179
was in variety, or one of the
magazines somebody said, The

1083
01:01:42,179 --> 01:01:45,419
problem that they have right now
is that they never even

1084
01:01:45,419 --> 01:01:48,509
considered the fact that this
this stupid experiment was gonna

1085
01:01:48,509 --> 01:01:51,059
fail. And so there's no plan B.

1086
01:01:52,050 --> 01:01:55,410
Let's listen to Chris Rock about
Roman Polanski pretty funny. And

1087
01:01:55,410 --> 01:01:59,310
of course, it all fits right in
perfectly with your theory that

1088
01:01:59,550 --> 01:02:01,380
he has a new movie coming out.
They're looking for

1089
01:02:01,380 --> 01:02:04,950
distribution, and this is great
promotion. Although Chris Rock

1090
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:07,620
clearly has something to say
about that. Hold on a second.

1091
01:02:07,620 --> 01:02:14,940
This coming from Hulu Kulu. Of
course I won't play Hulu, Hulu

1092
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:15,810
inside.

1093
01:02:19,110 --> 01:02:20,400
Yeah, I'm playing from Hulu.

1094
01:02:20,429 --> 01:02:23,849
Yeah, of course. We're live
baby. We don't

1095
01:02:25,980 --> 01:02:30,720
know man. Lansky thing got me
man. Yeah, what the hell? What

1096
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:35,430
is your I don't people under
Roman Polanski because he made

1097
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:40,350
some good movies. I don't get is
my thing make good movies? 30

1098
01:02:40,410 --> 01:02:45,870
years ago? Even Johnnie Cochran
don't have the nerve to go. Will

1099
01:02:45,870 --> 01:02:52,590
Did you see Audrey play against
New England? As far as

1100
01:03:00,719 --> 01:03:05,549
I know I've seen some hot 16
year olds that look at 17 and

1101
01:03:05,549 --> 01:03:11,819
look at 13 is 13. But nobody
gets away with having sex with a

1102
01:03:11,819 --> 01:03:15,539
13 year old only person that
could have sex with a 13 year

1103
01:03:15,539 --> 01:03:21,329
old is that pilot Scully. He can
do it. Know that the land and

1104
01:03:21,329 --> 01:03:26,339
the plane and the water but
don't let that happen again.

1105
01:03:28,949 --> 01:03:33,839
Yeah, I mean, come on. Rape.
It's ripe. Grapes. Number two.

1106
01:03:34,139 --> 01:03:39,209
Okay, it's murder. Right then.
Right. Right. Like, like the

1107
01:03:39,209 --> 01:03:43,379
United States, we want to
capture Osama bin Laden and

1108
01:03:43,379 --> 01:03:44,309
murder him.

1109
01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:54,690
Otherwise pretty funny. Yeah,
he's actually quite funny.

1110
01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:58,049
If you're in the US, you could
watch that from the from the

1111
01:03:58,049 --> 01:04:00,689
link in the show notes at no
gender show.com.

1112
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,810
If you're out of the US find a
proxy and

1113
01:04:03,810 --> 01:04:07,230
proxy server. Exactly. That's
the way to go. The one other

1114
01:04:07,230 --> 01:04:09,420
thing I just wanted. I just
wanted to give you props because

1115
01:04:09,420 --> 01:04:12,240
now I'm seeing it everywhere.
And I know it was mentioned a

1116
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,300
long time ago will this be our
Vietnam but you are so right,

1117
01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:19,080
John, this the war in
Afghanistan, which again, this

1118
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,750
may also be part of what the
moon bombing and the peace prize

1119
01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:26,010
is all about to cover up new new
troops or I still don't quite

1120
01:04:26,010 --> 01:04:29,160
understand how 21,000 extra
troops are deployed without

1121
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,300
Congress actually approve
approving it, you know, the

1122
01:04:33,330 --> 01:04:37,440
although we did just, you know,
pass a bill for another almost

1123
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:44,070
700 $700 billion for the wars in
Iraq and Afghanistan. But now

1124
01:04:44,070 --> 01:04:48,840
I'm seeing cartoons I'm seeing
stories pop up about this being

1125
01:04:49,770 --> 01:04:51,570
the Vietnam of our era.

1126
01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:54,120
And it's it's so obvious.

1127
01:04:55,380 --> 01:05:01,740
What was the conversation? What
I mean? Okay, let's see, there's

1128
01:05:01,739 --> 01:05:02,969
one of our fractals.

1129
01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:09,659
Oh, boy, yes, indeed. But the
part of the fractal that's

1130
01:05:09,659 --> 01:05:13,679
missing is the anti war
movement. You know, even Code

1131
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:17,909
Pink Code Pink, are now
endorsing Barack Obama's

1132
01:05:18,479 --> 01:05:20,009
Afghanistan policy.

1133
01:05:20,219 --> 01:05:24,329
The anti war movement during the
Vietnam War was the same way at

1134
01:05:24,329 --> 01:05:26,729
the beginning. It would, there
was no anti war movement until

1135
01:05:26,729 --> 01:05:27,659
late in the game.

1136
01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:33,000
Oh, really. But then, was it
primarily students or who was

1137
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:33,660
the main leader

1138
01:05:33,659 --> 01:05:35,729
were students that were gonna
get drafted, and they didn't

1139
01:05:35,729 --> 01:05:39,929
like the idea. And so they, you
know, maybe they had, for

1140
01:05:39,929 --> 01:05:43,709
example, you know, the men, the
big colleges and universities,

1141
01:05:43,709 --> 01:05:46,649
they had these teachings, which
are these, you know, these

1142
01:05:46,649 --> 01:05:49,619
radicals telling people why this
Vietnam War is a piece of crap.

1143
01:05:49,919 --> 01:05:56,789
And in fact, they went it was,
and they got all the students

1144
01:05:56,789 --> 01:06:00,209
all worked up. And so they could
get their willpower to a point

1145
01:06:00,209 --> 01:06:03,089
where they start protesting, and
then all hell broke loose. Well,

1146
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,490
that makes a lot of sense,
because, of course, we do not

1147
01:06:05,490 --> 01:06:10,830
have a draft. And in fact, what
the game has been changed, where

1148
01:06:10,860 --> 01:06:15,030
somehow we've made it possible
for all of these mercenaries to

1149
01:06:15,030 --> 01:06:20,730
go in, like Blackwater, or z as
it's known now. So that's the

1150
01:06:20,730 --> 01:06:24,150
big change is we just we just
rent an army, we don't actually

1151
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:25,770
send our kids over anymore.

1152
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:31,110
Well, that's I mean, originally
they you know, in Vietnam was

1153
01:06:31,110 --> 01:06:33,600
mostly these professionals. They
weren't the rent the army

1154
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:38,280
because we actually wasn't
really a great idea. But there

1155
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,970
was mostly you know, Special
Forces rangers and all these you

1156
01:06:41,970 --> 01:06:45,600
know, hot shots before they just
start throwing bodies at it. And

1157
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:50,640
I think I think what's going to
happen is I think at some point

1158
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:55,140
because the anti war people that
are within that are in Congress,

1159
01:06:55,140 --> 01:06:58,200
they know that the one thing
they can do to get draw

1160
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,110
attention to the fact that this
war we should stop this crap is

1161
01:07:01,110 --> 01:07:04,500
the day we'll be the ones that
tried to institute a draft. And

1162
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:06,450
I think a draft is going to be
instituted because we were at

1163
01:07:06,450 --> 01:07:08,400
some point we just can't afford
to run these wars. It's too

1164
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:08,910
expensive.

1165
01:07:08,940 --> 01:07:13,290
Yeah, well, no, because we've
we've let the printing of money

1166
01:07:13,290 --> 01:07:14,130
keep on going.

1167
01:07:15,449 --> 01:07:18,629
At some point we're gonna have
to either do a draft or stop

1168
01:07:18,629 --> 01:07:19,229
this crap.

1169
01:07:19,530 --> 01:07:22,080
Interesting, though, that you
say that that some of these laws

1170
01:07:22,110 --> 01:07:24,540
the anti war movement will
actually start to institute the

1171
01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:27,000
draft that you write that's that
that is that you get someone's

1172
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:31,560
attention pretty quick. Hey,
boy. Grab a hold of this m 16.

1173
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:37,740
Boy, I mean, going over to Iraq
and Afghanistan. And in fact,

1174
01:07:37,740 --> 01:07:42,630
not just Hey, boy. Hey, girl,
you're going to hate it. hate it

1175
01:07:42,630 --> 01:07:45,090
so much. It's so stupid. What
are we what the fuck are we

1176
01:07:45,090 --> 01:07:45,810
doing there?

1177
01:07:47,070 --> 01:07:51,060
We are pretty well, you already
know you're the one that has to

1178
01:07:51,060 --> 01:07:53,880
worry. Yeah, we're there to
protect a poppy crop not

1179
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,630
just protect it. We reinstated
it grew it all again after the

1180
01:07:57,630 --> 01:08:00,450
Taliban decimated it. And now
we're shipping it back.

1181
01:08:01,770 --> 01:08:04,380
Yeah, you want to keep the
population docile and you got to

1182
01:08:04,380 --> 01:08:04,980
drug them.

1183
01:08:05,550 --> 01:08:07,740
John, I'm so proud of you yet
again.

1184
01:08:09,060 --> 01:08:10,500
I like that theory. It sounds
good.

1185
01:08:10,529 --> 01:08:14,159
It's what's happening then. For
those of you who still wonder

1186
01:08:14,189 --> 01:08:16,469
me nuts right drugs should be
legalized.

1187
01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:21,990
Yes MENA Arkansas Oh, I have a
good one on that. If you're in

1188
01:08:21,990 --> 01:08:27,930
California the word is now
officially out. Here it is Los

1189
01:08:27,930 --> 01:08:32,370
Angeles County District Attorney
prepares to crack down on pot

1190
01:08:32,370 --> 01:08:39,870
outlets wear and tear California
Los Angeles

1191
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:41,940
that's not gonna fly.

1192
01:08:42,570 --> 01:08:43,380
Well, let me

1193
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:48,210
simply pot is essentially as is
a de facto legal in California

1194
01:08:48,210 --> 01:08:50,460
already. And anyone who thinks
they're gonna get anywhere

1195
01:08:50,460 --> 01:08:53,130
cracking down is gonna they're
gonna find themselves run out of

1196
01:08:53,130 --> 01:08:53,850
town.

1197
01:08:54,990 --> 01:08:59,460
Well, the story is slow to load
and kind of like the potheads

1198
01:08:59,460 --> 01:09:00,780
were trying to read it. And here
we go.

1199
01:09:02,969 --> 01:09:08,129
Hey, man, story, man. I can't
find this. In Los Angeles. Turn

1200
01:09:08,129 --> 01:09:08,789
the pay.

1201
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,850
Los Angeles County District
Attorney Steve Cooley said

1202
01:09:11,850 --> 01:09:14,730
Thursday he will prosecute
medical marijuana dispensaries

1203
01:09:14,730 --> 01:09:17,880
for over the counter sales
targeting a practice that has

1204
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,130
become commonplace under an
initiative approved by

1205
01:09:20,130 --> 01:09:24,720
California voters more than a
decade ago. He says,

1206
01:09:25,110 --> 01:09:27,180
Now who is this guy? Well, hold
on a second. Let me get the

1207
01:09:27,180 --> 01:09:28,950
browser. What's this guy's name?
Steve

1208
01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:32,820
Cooley, the Los Angeles County
District Attorney he says the

1209
01:09:32,820 --> 01:09:37,770
vast, vast, vast majority, about
100% of dispensaries in Los

1210
01:09:37,770 --> 01:09:40,650
Angeles county and the city are
operating illegally. They are

1211
01:09:40,650 --> 01:09:46,200
dealing marijuana illegally,
according to our theory. What's

1212
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:50,010
our theory? He has a theory
that's that's his theory. The

1213
01:09:50,010 --> 01:09:54,930
time is right to deal with this
problem. Interesting.

1214
01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:59,670
He's a former LAPD. Yeah, so
he's got his you know he's got

1215
01:09:59,670 --> 01:10:06,540
his mind. Ain't got a mindset
that's dubious. He's just third

1216
01:10:06,540 --> 01:10:17,250
term. The guy 61 or 262. He
looks like a dick. Oh in his in

1217
01:10:17,250 --> 01:10:21,060
his office was success. It was
unsuccessful in the prosecution

1218
01:10:21,060 --> 01:10:25,980
of Robert Blake for the murder
of his wife. The death but they

1219
01:10:25,980 --> 01:10:29,580
go after doe after the potheads
and maybe he's a little more

1220
01:10:29,580 --> 01:10:30,540
lucky there.

1221
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:36,900
I think it's a natural response
to the rather flagrant marketing

1222
01:10:36,900 --> 01:10:40,770
practices of a bunch of the
dispensaries. The medical veneer

1223
01:10:40,770 --> 01:10:43,410
has been wearing thinner and
thinner, which of course is

1224
01:10:43,410 --> 01:10:43,890
true.

1225
01:10:44,430 --> 01:10:46,710
Yeah, it's true. Well, it's
bogus. But there's no reason for

1226
01:10:46,710 --> 01:10:48,360
this guy to pick it up.
According to the Los Angeles

1227
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,550
Times advocates for Bembe
reading this from Wikipedia,

1228
01:10:50,850 --> 01:10:54,120
advocates for battered women had
criticized Cooley's handling of

1229
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,990
Deborah peddlers case and others
like it in eight out of eight

1230
01:10:57,990 --> 01:11:01,890
cases he's he's opposed the use
of a California law that allows

1231
01:11:01,890 --> 01:11:05,370
battered women in prison to be
given a new hearing if evidence

1232
01:11:05,370 --> 01:11:08,190
of domestic violence violence
was omitted during the original

1233
01:11:08,190 --> 01:11:11,910
proceedings. Heaven forbid that
these battered women get a

1234
01:11:11,910 --> 01:11:18,390
second hearing Yeah, the guy's a
dick. I have cables in Toluca

1235
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:27,570
Lake. Why is it go down? I live
in competent Toluca Lake. I

1236
01:11:29,940 --> 01:11:31,770
mean, well, they have a picture
of him here in the in the

1237
01:11:31,770 --> 01:11:35,670
Wikipedia, standing in front of
the Republican club banner.

1238
01:11:36,510 --> 01:11:43,680
Another sleazeball. Hey, good
luck down there in LA. We have a

1239
01:11:43,710 --> 01:11:47,850
dipshit da up here too. So it
gets the state's filled with

1240
01:11:47,850 --> 01:11:48,090
them.

1241
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:56,040
So there's a lot of talk about
another stimulus package. Have

1242
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:01,140
you been hearing the whispering?
Yeah. And it looks like there is

1243
01:12:01,140 --> 01:12:01,440
one.

1244
01:12:01,830 --> 01:12:03,930
The first one? Uh huh. I

1245
01:12:03,930 --> 01:12:08,790
don't know. You mean, the $787
billion? Well, it didn't work.

1246
01:12:10,230 --> 01:12:17,700
Now, all we have is more people
out of jobs. And so here's,

1247
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,960
here's some stuff that's going
on already that this probably?

1248
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:26,130
Well, first of all, there's a
there is a lot being done. I

1249
01:12:26,130 --> 01:12:30,960
think this is part of the the
original stimulus. So now the

1250
01:12:30,990 --> 01:12:35,250
House has voted yet another 13
additional weeks of unemployment

1251
01:12:35,250 --> 01:12:38,820
benefits for laid off workers.
And that's only if you're in a

1252
01:12:38,820 --> 01:12:42,900
state where the jobless rate is
8.5% or above, which I think is

1253
01:12:42,900 --> 01:12:47,730
about all of them. Thursday,
Senate Democrats reached a deal

1254
01:12:47,730 --> 01:12:54,810
to extend extend the benefits
and additional 14 weeks. Both

1255
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:58,260
proposals are paid for by
extending a Federal Unemployment

1256
01:12:58,260 --> 01:13:03,270
Tax nice on the table extending
subsidies for laid off workers

1257
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:08,250
to help them with their Cobra,
that'll be $25 billion. So then

1258
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,830
they're getting ready to pass
all this but they don't know how

1259
01:13:10,830 --> 01:13:14,220
to pay for it. That's that's
essentially this is a AP

1260
01:13:14,220 --> 01:13:19,140
article. several bills would
issue extra large payments, more

1261
01:13:19,140 --> 01:13:22,080
than 50 million Social Security
recipients to make up for the

1262
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,860
lack of cost of living increase
next year. Another bill on the

1263
01:13:25,860 --> 01:13:30,660
table was set one time payments
at $250. Matching the the amount

1264
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,380
paid to Social Security
recipients and railroad retirees

1265
01:13:34,380 --> 01:13:40,590
as part of the stimulus package
the previous one. What else do

1266
01:13:40,590 --> 01:13:44,400
we have? Nancy Pelosi is
considering a proposal to allow

1267
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,610
money losing companies to use
their losses to get refunds of

1268
01:13:47,610 --> 01:13:53,220
taxes paid in the previous five
years. That'll be good. Here's

1269
01:13:53,220 --> 01:14:00,210
what I kind of like, proposed by
Arlen Specter, if you witness

1270
01:14:00,210 --> 01:14:04,650
this home inspector, I think it
was if you create a new job

1271
01:14:04,650 --> 01:14:11,280
within your company, you'll get
a $4,000 Check. Which is

1272
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,820
probably going to get tax credit
I think. Yeah, it's usually a

1273
01:14:14,820 --> 01:14:20,730
tax credit. Yeah. But which not
but still cool. So,

1274
01:14:21,270 --> 01:14:23,100
so let's hire some people.

1275
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:28,380
Yeah. Hey, there you go. Women,
it doesn't say how much you have

1276
01:14:28,380 --> 01:14:30,720
to actually pay them, does it?

1277
01:14:31,020 --> 01:14:33,900
I don't know. Look it up if you
don't have to pay him much. I

1278
01:14:33,900 --> 01:14:35,130
mean, this could be a bonanza.

1279
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:36,960
This is a good idea.

1280
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,470
And that doesn't say how long
you have to keep them. Can you

1281
01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:41,460
hire him for a week?

1282
01:14:41,490 --> 01:14:42,990
I don't know. I'm

1283
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:48,900
this is interesting. Oh, it's
paid out over two years ago.

1284
01:14:48,900 --> 01:14:53,430
It's a tax credit. paid out over
two years for each new employee.

1285
01:14:53,700 --> 01:14:55,800
Does employee have to stay there
for two years? Well, if they

1286
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,930
quit, I don't know John,

1287
01:14:57,990 --> 01:15:00,360
what if you have one employee
and keep it And he keeps

1288
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,220
quitting and you rehire him
every time.

1289
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,080
You can make a lot of money off
of that guy.

1290
01:15:04,140 --> 01:15:08,610
Okay. Let's keep our eye on this
one, shall we? I could be

1291
01:15:08,610 --> 01:15:11,880
interesting. Anyway, what this
is all amounting up to is

1292
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,360
clearly that a new stimulus is
being prepared. And I think it

1293
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:20,520
will happen. I really think it
will happen. Because we're bust

1294
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:27,120
we are bust is ridiculous. I
guess that's as good a time as

1295
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:32,190
any to complain about our
financial future for our show.

1296
01:15:33,330 --> 01:15:35,460
Yeah, how are we doing
financially?

1297
01:15:35,580 --> 01:15:37,440
I think we're doing okay, even
though we didn't get a lot in

1298
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:39,540
because it's Thursday, but we've
only been off the air for a

1299
01:15:39,540 --> 01:15:42,900
couple of hours. But I want to
mention that people that did

1300
01:15:42,900 --> 01:15:46,650
give us some contributions this
last couple of days. And I also

1301
01:15:46,650 --> 01:15:51,510
want to mention Matthew Stewart
in Guelph, Ontario, who gave us

1302
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:54,000
50 bucks and claims that we've
never mentioned him even though

1303
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:54,870
I think we did.

1304
01:15:55,140 --> 01:15:59,190
Okay. Well, Matthew, thank you
very much. Appreciate it. This

1305
01:15:59,190 --> 01:16:00,870
will be the second time he's
donated.

1306
01:16:00,989 --> 01:16:03,929
We've looked for it. We were
looking for as much money from

1307
01:16:03,929 --> 01:16:09,599
Canadians as possible. Yes.
Because the dollar is worth more

1308
01:16:09,599 --> 01:16:14,009
than ours now and they got it
easy up there. Anyway, we have

1309
01:16:14,039 --> 01:16:17,309
Mickey Kennedy at Kingsborough
Kingsville, Maryland, who's our

1310
01:16:17,309 --> 01:16:21,389
executive producer today, give
us $399. If we and he wants us

1311
01:16:21,389 --> 01:16:23,549
to plug e releases.com.

1312
01:16:23,850 --> 01:16:27,570
Celebrating 11 years of press
release distribution this month

1313
01:16:27,870 --> 01:16:32,700
$399. We'll get your news on the
wire and to journalists before

1314
01:16:32,700 --> 01:16:34,710
they hit the unemployment line.

1315
01:16:35,580 --> 01:16:37,950
So you know, there's a bunch of
these services that do this. I

1316
01:16:37,950 --> 01:16:40,410
mean, there's PR Newswire,
there's e releases, there's

1317
01:16:40,410 --> 01:16:44,070
market wire, I think Business
Wire, there's a bunch of these

1318
01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:46,560
and E releases is one of them,
and they're actually pretty good

1319
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,290
services. And at this point in
time, they're as good as the

1320
01:16:49,290 --> 01:16:52,620
newspapers. Yeah, no kidding.
Uh, press releases, you know,

1321
01:16:52,620 --> 01:16:54,840
I'd have to use newspapers or
just running press releases

1322
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,870
anyway. So let's just give up.
Yeah. So anyway, that's e

1323
01:16:57,870 --> 01:17:00,120
releases.com. And check it out.
One thing Mickey for being the

1324
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,780
executive producer of the show,
Robert seals, it gave us 50

1325
01:17:03,780 --> 01:17:06,960
bucks and he is from the the
interesting town of Cripple

1326
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,400
Creek, Colorado,

1327
01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:10,140
yay, Cripple Creek.

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That is so you know, wow.
Sterling Ellsworth gave us

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01:17:16,380 --> 01:17:21,810
$77.77 Last week, and he said
and I couldn't remember where

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01:17:21,810 --> 01:17:26,220
he's from. And he sent me a note
saying, I'm from Santa Barbara,

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01:17:26,220 --> 01:17:30,330
you idiot. Here's another $77.77

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01:17:30,660 --> 01:17:33,540
Thank you. Wait a minute.
Where's he from? Again? I can't

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01:17:33,540 --> 01:17:37,620
remember John. Danna Barbara.
No, don't tell me. He owes me

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01:17:37,620 --> 01:17:38,010
money.

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01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,140
Oprah's from really

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01:17:40,169 --> 01:17:42,659
is she's not. She's not a
Chicago native.

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01:17:42,959 --> 01:17:45,329
Well, she's got a big place in
LA and Santa Barbara. She made

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01:17:45,329 --> 01:17:51,779
sense. Put Santa Barbara on the
map. Right on. Yon Davies or Ian

1339
01:17:52,049 --> 01:18:00,809
Ian Davies in Porthcawl PR THC?
Aw l Bridgend UK give us 55. Can

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01:18:00,809 --> 01:18:01,739
you hear the sirens out there?

1341
01:18:02,340 --> 01:18:03,990
I've wondered if that was you or
me?

1342
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,420
No, it's sirens are coming to
get me. Let me

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01:18:06,450 --> 01:18:10,440
hurry up. Get on with people.
Before you mess it up. Yeah, J

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01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:10,980
Kramer

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01:18:11,010 --> 01:18:13,530
Eagan, Minnesota 52. I think I
mentioned him before. But that's

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01:18:13,530 --> 01:18:17,190
all we got. So we need people to
pick up the slack a little bit.

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01:18:17,190 --> 01:18:20,700
I'd like to get some more people
from the Netherlands and Holland

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01:18:20,700 --> 01:18:22,860
for sure. Because Adam is
providing much of their

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01:18:22,860 --> 01:18:25,530
entertainment over there. Yeah.
And do you know

1350
01:18:25,530 --> 01:18:29,280
how much money has been made on
my personal my personal life in

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01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:33,750
the past? Four or five months?
Millions? I tell you, yeah,

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01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:35,190
millions I'm providing great

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01:18:35,190 --> 01:18:40,350
entertainment you. And by the
way, we do have some jingles to

1354
01:18:40,350 --> 01:18:42,300
do for some people we've been
putting it off and we will get

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01:18:42,300 --> 01:18:45,660
to them. But I was not for the
people that wanted those jingles

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01:18:45,660 --> 01:18:49,440
send me another email please
saying with the with the no

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01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:52,650
agenda on the subject line and
the word jingle so I can look

1358
01:18:52,650 --> 01:18:58,020
them up. Also, the live we're
still working on the live stream

1359
01:18:58,020 --> 01:19:01,920
and we're and if you want to
help us on that put no agenda

1360
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,580
and live stream in the subject
line so I can look it up.

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01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,070
Because I you know, I get to
meet a lot of email and all you

1362
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:11,370
know, you need to find some way
of looking stuff up. And we also

1363
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,550
like to encourage more nights we
don't have you know, we only

1364
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:16,830
have four we need some more
nights. We have a bunch of

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01:19:16,830 --> 01:19:19,080
people in line for being a night
but that's going to take another

1366
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,170
few months. And so I want
everyone to go to no agenda,

1367
01:19:22,770 --> 01:19:29,010
show no agenda show.com or
dvorak.org/in A and donate. And

1368
01:19:29,010 --> 01:19:31,710
if you if nothing else, can you
subscribe for five bucks a month

1369
01:19:31,710 --> 01:19:34,560
because this is essentially
parking meter money is not going

1370
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,780
to really break the bank by any
means.

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01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:41,160
And we actually worked pretty
hard on this show. And you know,

1372
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,860
the amount of money we're making
for it is nowhere it's not even

1373
01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:52,140
near, you know, like small
market radio salary. And we'd

1374
01:19:52,140 --> 01:19:56,370
love to do more and I have said
repeatedly I would love to spend

1375
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:00,840
all day doing this and if we get
enough money in donations, I

1376
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,180
will quit my day job I'd be
happy to.

1377
01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:08,610
And and I think everyone else
would be happy too. So I want to

1378
01:20:08,610 --> 01:20:11,700
mention one more person who gave
us 50 bucks was Jordan Wyatt out

1379
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:17,040
of New Zealand and he runs a
podcast called the NS Zed, which

1380
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:21,630
is what you say for z in New
Zealand and Zed vegan. And he

1381
01:20:21,630 --> 01:20:24,480
tells me that he had an
interesting thing to say. He

1382
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:27,510
said, for one thing, I don't
know why a vegan listens to the

1383
01:20:27,510 --> 01:20:31,140
show, or is it vegan? I can
never remember. But anyway, I

1384
01:20:31,140 --> 01:20:32,190
don't understand. He likes

1385
01:20:32,340 --> 01:20:35,010
to be informed. John, there's
nothing wrong with that. No, but

1386
01:20:35,010 --> 01:20:38,790
he did come up with the gym. He
says that if there's if the

1387
01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:41,880
government makes an edict that
you have to take the swine flu

1388
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,350
shot because there's animal

1389
01:20:43,530 --> 01:20:46,140
products, you can't have it.
Yeah, you're a vegan, right?

1390
01:20:46,169 --> 01:20:48,809
You say you're a vegan. I can't
take this shot. It's against my

1391
01:20:48,809 --> 01:20:50,879
religion, blah, blah, blah, and
then you won't get the shot.

1392
01:20:50,879 --> 01:20:51,749
That's actually genius.

1393
01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:56,460
A very good and maybe he's a
carnivore, curious. Maybe, maybe

1394
01:20:56,460 --> 01:20:59,250
that's why he listens to the
show. I'm curious. That's a good

1395
01:20:59,250 --> 01:21:02,820
way, by the way in the chat
room. Jay won't darts at his

1396
01:21:02,850 --> 01:21:08,130
donation didn't get read. Who? J
Is there a J who donated?

1397
01:21:08,490 --> 01:21:11,520
Not in this last week that
didn't last couple of days? Not

1398
01:21:11,550 --> 01:21:12,090
didn't come?

1399
01:21:12,540 --> 01:21:14,190
He's from New Zealand.

1400
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,500
New Zealand. I just mentioned
this Jordan Wyatt. Oh, okay.

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01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,980
Yeah, you're right. You're
right. You're right. You're

1402
01:21:22,980 --> 01:21:25,620
right. He just responded. Yeah,
he could catch it. Okay. I'm

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01:21:25,620 --> 01:21:28,860
sorry. Finally, John, I just
like to give some props to I'm

1404
01:21:28,860 --> 01:21:32,160
not a big fan of the Electronic
Frontier Foundation. Because the

1405
01:21:32,430 --> 01:21:36,420
when I had my first dispute with
MTV, they basically said, no

1406
01:21:36,420 --> 01:21:39,750
servers for you, we don't give a
shit. And I think they should

1407
01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:44,430
have helped me at the time. But
they have been fighting pretty

1408
01:21:44,430 --> 01:21:52,020
hard about the FISA wiretaps,
and they finally got some real a

1409
01:21:52,020 --> 01:21:56,790
real answer about the
relationship between telcos in

1410
01:21:56,790 --> 01:22:01,290
particular at&t, who, of course,
were spying on on American

1411
01:22:01,290 --> 01:22:04,080
citizens, which is the one thing
that you pretty much could live

1412
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,090
in America and know that that
wouldn't happen. And that all

1413
01:22:06,090 --> 01:22:09,150
changed under George W. Bush has
been extended by our current

1414
01:22:09,150 --> 01:22:15,540
president who said he wouldn't.
So here's here's that little

1415
01:22:15,540 --> 01:22:21,390
ditty that came out of the
district court. Federal rules,

1416
01:22:21,420 --> 01:22:25,230
the Feds argued document showing
consultation over the

1417
01:22:25,230 --> 01:22:30,150
controversial telecom immunity
proposal were not subject to the

1418
01:22:30,150 --> 01:22:33,930
Freedom of Information Act since
they are protected as quote,

1419
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:38,190
intra agency records. And here's
the paragraph that's cool.

1420
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,860
communications between the
agencies and the

1421
01:22:40,860 --> 01:22:43,650
telecommunications companies
regarding the immunity

1422
01:22:43,650 --> 01:22:47,070
provisions of the proposed
legislation had been regarded as

1423
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:50,640
intra agency, because the
government and the companies

1424
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,950
have a common interest in the
defense of the pending

1425
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:55,770
litigation and communications
regarding the immunity

1426
01:22:55,770 --> 01:23:01,110
provisions concern, that common
interest in other words, AT and

1427
01:23:01,110 --> 01:23:03,540
T is considered to be an agency.

1428
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,300
Well, haven't you seen their
building over there in San

1429
01:23:06,300 --> 01:23:06,810
Francisco?

1430
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,320
Yeah, yes, of course I have. But
it's just nice to actually have

1431
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,990
it in black and white. They are
part of the they're a federal

1432
01:23:12,990 --> 01:23:18,540
agency. They are there the CIA?
Wow. Thank you. Pinky. Pinky

1433
01:23:18,540 --> 01:23:23,640
swear. They are the CIA right
there that says black and white.

1434
01:23:24,330 --> 01:23:26,790
Yeah, that's why they had that
you know that. That's why you

1435
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:29,790
know, the thing about the at&t
First they busted him up. And

1436
01:23:29,790 --> 01:23:32,190
then all these little bells
popped up. And then one Bell

1437
01:23:32,190 --> 01:23:34,440
started buying all the ads and
about all the Asian Pacific Bell

1438
01:23:34,440 --> 01:23:36,690
got bought by SBC. And the next
thing you know, they all bought

1439
01:23:36,690 --> 01:23:40,830
everybody else. And then they
changed the name. Back to AT and

1440
01:23:40,830 --> 01:23:44,460
T, because they had too much
thick because the CIA had

1441
01:23:44,460 --> 01:23:46,230
printed up so much letterhead.

1442
01:23:47,700 --> 01:23:51,300
They had all the business cards
in place. Everyone had those

1443
01:23:51,300 --> 01:23:56,760
cool passes and shields. All
right. Anyway, you still have

1444
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,550
plenty of time to get rid of
your guns if you want to be

1445
01:23:59,550 --> 01:24:03,990
considered for healthcare under
the newly minted changed health

1446
01:24:03,990 --> 01:24:07,770
care insurance reform bills that
will be passed right under your

1447
01:24:07,770 --> 01:24:12,000
very noses this Tuesday. While
you're talking about Moon

1448
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,730
blasts, MPs prizes,

1449
01:24:14,789 --> 01:24:18,629
and don't forget to go to no
agenda show.com and donate just

1450
01:24:18,629 --> 01:24:21,839
because it for no other reason.
That fact that Adam dug up that

1451
01:24:21,869 --> 01:24:25,709
gun thing, which is just the
sneakiest way for gun control

1452
01:24:25,709 --> 01:24:28,379
guys to get their foot in the
door that I've ever heard that

1453
01:24:28,379 --> 01:24:29,639
says just chicken.

1454
01:24:30,750 --> 01:24:33,540
And thanks for tuning in early.
Those of you who are on the

1455
01:24:33,540 --> 01:24:37,410
stream. We also always tried to
come to you early if there's

1456
01:24:37,410 --> 01:24:40,440
some travel restrictions, again,
happy to quit the day job but

1457
01:24:40,440 --> 01:24:43,590
right now I can't. So instead of
doing something later and

1458
01:24:43,590 --> 01:24:46,320
bugging out, we make sure that
everyone has a show to listen to

1459
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:50,970
when they expect that even if
wasn't completely live. And

1460
01:24:51,570 --> 01:24:54,150
we'll be talking to you again on
Thursday. Coming to you from

1461
01:24:54,150 --> 01:24:57,630
Gitmo nation West in San
Francisco, California. I'm Adam

1462
01:24:57,630 --> 01:24:58,110
curry

1463
01:24:58,650 --> 01:25:02,340
and from Silicon Valley Your
time John C. Dvorak. Thursday

1464
01:25:02,340 --> 01:25:05,550
will be the day we'll talk to
again right here on no agenda.