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Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. It
is Sunday June 14. Happy

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birthday to super agent Keith
Hey, it's time once again for

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your gizmo nation audio
publication. This is no agenda

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coming to you from the crappiest
bandwidth in the Bay Area.

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Located in Gitmo nation West.
I'm Adam curry.

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And from get bow nation Pacific
Northwest, and powered by

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oatmeal, I might add on Jhansi
before I was killed.

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I am powered by oatmeal as well.

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So how do you prepare your
oatmeal?

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There was very little in the
Casa at the moment. So here's I

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prepared it with water because
then that's all I had.

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And methodology isn't unusual.
It's not bad. It's

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not bad. And I since I had no
sugar, no brown sugar, no maple

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syrup. I had some blueberries so
I infested it with blueberries

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and actually was okay it kind of
tasted like blueberries with

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sawdust.

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Do you normally make it with
milk and make more of a mush?

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Yeah, I

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do like to make more of a mush
and I I like a little bit of

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brown sugar or it kind of
depends on the mood. I might try

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maple syrup or but only if it's
really good maple syrup.

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So I had my oatmeal. Whoo I also
have I did I did the boiling

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water method. I sometimes make
it with milk too. But it makes a

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different product when you Oh
totally. Yeah, totally. But I

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had birch syrup.

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Mm hmm. So that's it's a

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wild from Alaska.

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But it's how different does it
taste for maple syrup?

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Don't take anything the same.
What is it?

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Can you try and describe it?

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Well if anyone's ever had birch
beer obvious you can taste that

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did Thomas Kemper mix it up here
in the Pacific Northwest and

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they have birch beer which has
it's a little generally milder

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and less a concentrated than
maple syrup. It doesn't have the

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maple syrup has a unique I mean
an absolutely amazing flavour

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profile that is just all
encompassing is one of the

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greatest sugars yes ever

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and of course if it's from
Vermont that is really the best

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well you know I find I found
good Canadian and stuff and

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elsewhere but Vermont does have
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a good a good blend.

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They go out of the way to make
good maple syrup or whatever.

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Anyway the point is, is that the
birch syrup is nothing like it

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in terms of its flavour profile.
But it's an it's a nice change

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of pace. It's like you know bite
if you have like that. No

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Polly's sugar that stuff that
comes from the the the the dead

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plant that makes tequila that

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go that like cactus thing. Is
that it? Yeah, it's

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kind of a cactus thing. I can't
think of the name of it for some

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reason. Agave. Ah, yes. So they
make the most of the tequila

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companies take they make you
know, sugar from the from the

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agave plant that makes the
tequila and they sometimes

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bottle the sugar straight and
you can buy that now because

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it's supposed to have all these
health benefits. And that's

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actually quite quite tasty too.
But it doesn't is a the mildest

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of the three. Anyway, you know
the your food I'm sorry. It's in

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the morning caught we need a
cough button with Leo's got one

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on his rig. Yeah, I know

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Leo's cool I was gonna say the
stuff the loft that I hope to

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move into on Monday is in the
same building that houses the

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company that is the first
company to legally distribute

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absent in the US.

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Oh. So this absent that they're
distributing most of it's not

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very good.

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I don't know I'm I'm not a
drinker, as you know, so I don't

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I think I've tasted it once or
twice, but I'm not really like

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woowoo can't wait.

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So we have a stream live for IRC
users, but you can go to a

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directly with no agenda.
chat.com Yeah, I'm

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just trying to I'm just trying
to log into IRC dot zero

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node.net And I try to hit the no
agenda channel and it says if

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you're at a conference and other
people are having trouble

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connecting please mention it to
staff. That's wonderful. What's

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going on?

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Well, I mean, if you go straight
to the website that there's a

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there's a live web client that
runs and it's just it looks like

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it works fine. In fact, I'm
gonna send a message Hello.

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Yeah, so you clearly didn't see
my Hello because I guess I'm

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loving it does doesn't matter I
can't do the web client now

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because right you'll kill this.
Your everything. Yeah. And the

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worst part if I if I can just
send you this link John because

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it will not open for me every
other you know, I have to open

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all of my My webpages before the
show on this crappy bandwidth

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but the story looks so
fascinating if you could hold on

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a second. You could just open
that because the title of the

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story which I'm just dying to
hear about, and of course

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totally fits under the category
of and now back to real man

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Sue's over 55 hour erection and
I'm thinking this is a phone

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ringing

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it was okay you're getting phone
calls. Hey, that was calling me

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on the phone. Reminded me I can
unhook my phone. So let's see we

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got man stews over 55 hour
erection. Former prison inmate

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Tao Would ya doula is suing a
nurse in the United States

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claiming that he suffered an
erection that lasted 55 hours as

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a side effect of medication he
had been given yet do law 43

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said he had to wait more than
two days before being taken from

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the New York prison to a
hospital to hospital to

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hospitals in strict British
story, as we would say to the

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hospital for treatment reported
in New York Post on Monday.

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According to media reports.
Yeah. doula said that his daily

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dosage of antipsychotic
medication was incorrect must

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have been an experience for him
was increased by 25% by the

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nurse Judith Lovelace. Oh, yeah.

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Like Linda Linda. Linda sister,
now we're talking.

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And as a side effect, he had
persistently had a persistent

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and painful erection. Just left
him in irreparably injured.

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So, okay, well, I was thinking,
you know, this would be some

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kind of Cialis or Viagra story,
because they always have that

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tagline. At the end of the
commercials. If you experienced

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an erection for more than four
hours, contact your doctor

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immediately.

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And as the joke goes, if I get
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hours, I'm calling everybody or

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that's not a problem you need to
call your doctor for that's a

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scheduling problem.

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And there's a bunch of gags over
that line. Which reminds me I

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gotta get some more clips of
these. There's a new drug

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reminds me we gotta get some
more funny material. Is that

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what you were gonna say?

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More Funny material? We're
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Speaking of short, a great. And
of course, all of these links

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are faithfully put into the show
notes that no agenda.me veoh.com

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I'm sure you saw the all the
conferences where you had sir

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cosy and Obama sitting together
in end and discussing things

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together. I guess it was
Normandy that we talked about it

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last week. But there's this
picture. And it's at one who

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it's from Times Online. And I'm
going to Skype this to you

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because if you haven't seen it,
it's just hilarious. Of course,

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we always harp on and you know,
both of us being over six feet

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tall. We're allowed to harp on
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You'll see profile picture at
the podium of President Obama

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standing with his what does he
do like, guys? Like six? Three?

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I think so. Six, two, and then
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know, for fortnight ending on
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ah, somebody shut that picture.
Just the point of just to

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ridicule

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him. Yeah. And rightfully so.

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Did you never have that you look
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has got like these barriers. So
you can't see it. So you can't

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see it. Yeah, so somebody went
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they even use it. They even use
the N word in the article. I

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love that. The N word of course,
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And then they got a cartoon of
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What's the cartoon? Oh, no,
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a picture at the bottom of him
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And, you know, with his lovely
wife, she must be 511 No,

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she looks almost violent. She's
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she wears flats. She doesn't
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looks about she's six one dude.

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I don't think so because he's
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standing in

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the background, but look at
Sarco and look at the lovely,

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lovely Carla Bruni.

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Yeah, she's like a foot taller
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inches taller than Sarkozy

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and her knees are bent.

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She's hot and she's on her
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Yeah, it was. I pick up a copy
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weekend yesterday. And he's
actually I was looking for a

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story about the New York Stock
Exchange. I don't know if you

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follow that. But on Friday the
thing glitched at the opening

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which I found highly suspect you
know, there was I flipped on

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CNBC and they're all like, wow,
you can tell that they're all

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excited something horrible is
amiss. Something's going on. And

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you know these things with
computer glitches, particularly

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when it comes to trading
systems. I've just always got to

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put My little question marks
around it. And you know, there

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was you didn't follow that
obviously. No, no I, I, whenever

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that slips through it. Whenever
that happens I'm like, Okay, I'm

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sure just a just a computer
glitch, nothing to see here. But

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sorry, I forgot to hit the coff
button. In the second part of

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the w one section, they have a
whole article about actually

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titled divided we stand and sub
subhead, what would California

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look like broken in three or a
republic of New England, with

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the federal government reaching
for evermore power redrawing the

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map is enticing, says Paul
strobe Starobin. And it's about

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something that, you know, I've
certainly been following. We've

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discussed from time to time that
there are many, many states

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within the union that have
movements of people who are

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thinking about breaking off from
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Yeah, well, or we're doing other
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California from about, I don't
know what area it gets, maybe

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north of Redding, to most of
southern Oregon wants to become

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the state of Jefferson.

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They have to have a name for it.
But they have a name for it. The

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state of

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Jefferson. Yeah. And in fact,
when you drive up there, when

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you drive through that area,
you'll see signage all over the

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place and real into the state of
Jefferson and work and it's a

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big picture of Jefferson, the
profile of Thomas Jefferson.

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Really? Yeah, Jefferson, and
they said, but they tend to be

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they tend to be slightly right
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You think? You know, yes,
economically, logic suggests a

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natural multilingual combination
between greater San Diego and

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Mexico's northern Baia, and to
the Pacific North between

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Seattle and Vancouver, in a mega
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Oh, Cascadia that's a good one.
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So I don't know it seems like
something really is happening

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they want us in the Wall Street
Journal. You go okay, I'm pay

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attention to this.

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There's been a you know, that
area I have to I mean, there is

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a similarity between this
northern part of California and

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Southern Oregon. And then there
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between Portland and then that
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State in fact, maybe the whole
coast but when you get to

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Seattle, Bellingham Redmond,
Bellevue that Puget Sound area

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from Seattle up to Vancouver
that's there is a similarity in

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a lot of different ways a little
Vancouver and Seattle being so

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close to each other the present
some sort of Metropolitan issue

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I think but whatever.

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Now do you think that that this
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did a lot of these people in BC
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themselves you know, more part
of the United States than they

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do Canada?

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Do you think that this actually
could could happen I mean, I'm

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How about how about Texas, Texas
is always kind of been

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the big talkers. I realised that
Texas is a bunch of blowhard

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it's John at DeVore ak.org Send
your your ammo to him. I don't

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know man, I you know, I did.
There's a lot of people who are

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getting pretty pissed off and
it's it's a movement that's

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bubbling under but in fact, last
night I was cruising through I

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actually spent some time trying
to watch some television and I

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have Comcast basic cable at this
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on one of the I guess the high
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got to be some local access.
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architectural engineers for 911
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hour programme. It was amazing
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and that's there is some stuff
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there's a lot of dissent and a
lot of dissatisfaction.

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So we have my son came up with a
good phrase that we can use to

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generate income and sell T
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save America listen to no agenda
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it but first of all, why only
America we have tonnes of

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producers and listeners from
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around the globe who have an
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Yeah, the whole world needs to
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Well help save the world Dennis
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like an environmental movement?

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Yeah, like can we just do like
nuke the gay whales listen to no

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agenda that will entice me more
to listen. So you have the real

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news thing. Yeah. Well, no
second. Why? Yes, I do, John.

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And now back to real.

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Show. Did you know that Simon
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producers of Teletubbies?

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No, I did not know that. Did we
sure everyone knows who the

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Teletubbies are. I guess all
right. Yeah.

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No, they had to Teletubbies on
the United States. That became a

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big controversy when one of the
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because it was gay. It wasn't a
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Pinky Winky was gay.

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So one of them was, by the way,
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Big deal. Thank you. I did.

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So this good came up in a
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was having turns out that
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up to the tongue Teletubby show
which you can look at on YouTube

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called boo ba Have you ever seen
or heard of this?

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No. And I can't look at it. Now
for obvious bandwidth reasons.

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Boo. Bah. Can you spell it?

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B O. H? dash B H Okay. Boo. Bah,
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teletype. He's looking guys only
they look. They have like not to

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be crude or rude. You can cover
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anybody want to hear this? It
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that actually come out. Popped
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gusting over very well

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clearly not circumcised.

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Law or something. But anyway,
yeah, it's only news. Well, I

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want everyone to go check it
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What how does Simon Cowell turn
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I just started throw his name
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all know whether Simon Cowell
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But we know that the that some
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do that's all we know.

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Oh, okay. I got you. We never
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because of our our no agenda
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Sundays we never really got into
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elections are touched on it
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did very, very poorly Gordon
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Gitmo, Gitmo, nation east and
boy, I can't wait to get all of

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my Gitmo nation East
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continue with the the gizmo
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well. And this is of course so
what's his name? Neil Farraj? Is

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that his name? The guy whose I
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guy who's always standing up and
doing great speeches in European

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Parliament and getting giving
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about that. And now it seems
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a new Commons that's I guess
they're Hill vote could prove

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explosive and would be seized on
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made big gains in the recent
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really have to make a vote on
the Lisbon Treaty in the United

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Kingdom. Which, as you know, if
you listen to this show, they

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just kind of rammed through
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cool guy who who did sue the,
the the Labour government trying

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to stop the ratification of it.
But it's, it's a good article,

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and of course, that'll be in the
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they're using some legal
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that to a vote which Wow, that
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the a lot of the plans that
these guys have.

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Yeah, you think so, okay,
they'll find some other way to

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bypass it.

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We'll see you know, Ireland
still has you know, they're

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still trying to force the the
second vote for the Irish and

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this thing, this thing is so
messed up. We become we just

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become so desensitised and just
kind of except Except health is

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bullshit that they fall on us.
Unreal.

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So I see Jeff Smith has been
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some guy who get back to that.

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What was the CNN fail?

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No, CNN feel I can't, you know,
the CNN feels got something to

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do with the fact that their
coverage of the Iranian

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elections was crap. And

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I don't get the big deal. It
seemed I did see this past, you

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know, the the news channels like
oh, oh, it's clearly it's been a

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big Sham. And Ahmadinejad wins
by you know, a 50% margin. Like

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who cares? Who cares?

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Chai you're finally getting back
into becoming anti American.

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That's Yes, I'm fine American
who doesn't give a crap neither

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one of us will be able to do the
show solo.

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We got a practice from one of us
gets to to the head and the gun

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in the left hand, John, you
know, it's Sciacca

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way and but yeah, and then such.
Jeff Smith says, Have you seen

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the time travel guy story man
travels in time from 2036 to

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visit his mother?

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No. Have you seen the story?

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Well, it's actually turns out to
be I clicked on it. And it turns

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out to be a adventure of being a
kind of a lady link or something

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that happened on Coast to Coast
with George Noriega. That crazy

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rate, that's just something you
should be listening to, you

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should listen to it. Listen,

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I do listen to it from time to
time, but rarely ever live. You

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know, sometimes you have to pay
for it to get access to the

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podcast or whatever says, you
know, sometimes people upload

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some story to the drop, which I
find pretty, pretty good

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editorial process. So it's only
like four hours long, isn't it?

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It's was it is a daily you know,
talk show. It's one of the

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oldest oldest ones ever? Yeah,
they read a lot of three or

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something like,

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yeah, got a lot of good, Alien
UFO stories. And, yeah, you

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know, I like it. It's good show.
But anyway, so the guy time

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travels to visit his

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mom, and I gotta link to it. But
it's like this, it sends me to

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this John tight or times, under,
which is under John tight

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tor.com, which is one of the
sites that apparently scrolls

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down to China. And as always,
it's missing is the cat running

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back and forth, and back and
forth across the screen. I

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couldn't find it on here if I
wanted to. So nevermind,

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it just going back to, to either
one of us could do the show

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solo, can we just make a pact?
That should either one of us be

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killed by the government? That
you know, the other one just

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goes on the show? And then you
know, says, Well, you know, so

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in my case would be well, we're
very sorry to report that. You

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know, John has been suicided by
the government, and then just

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go. And now back to real. And
then just do some story about a

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guy got his penis caught in the
door and just continue the show.

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Yeah, well, that's pretty much
what we're doing now.

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Exactly. Just want to make sure
we agree on that.

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So I mentioned the commencement
at Evergreen State College.

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Oh, this is for your son. Yeah.
Which one? John? J, J, as I call

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it, J J, I call them J i column
J. J

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is toward to that. But anyway,
so this is actually one of the

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greatest entertainment values
that you could have in your

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lifetime. And I would recommend
next year people they find that

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whenever greens doing their
commencement, you have to go to

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it. Because then I'll have some
photos posted. And I think

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you should explain what
commencement is for

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commencements where

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you get your degree, your
bachelors of whatever it is, or

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your PhD or whatever, whatever.

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Whatever thing he did, you went,

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you got a degree. But is it
done? You know, it's just a bit

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commencement. It's very common
occurrence

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in America. In America, it's
very common. It's a ceremony

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that is completely uncommon
outside the borders,

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so they don't give diplomas to
people that go to Cambridge.

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Not like but the commence the
commencement outside of Gitmo

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nation West is different, you
know,

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yeah. Tell me I'd be interested.
I've never been to one. I don't

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think

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there's caps and gowns, yet
maybe Cambridge but you know,

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not in Germany. You know, not in
the Netherlands. In fact, it's

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really quite boring. You know,
you sit in like an owl. Ah, that

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would that is? Is that a correct
English word? And Hola. No, au

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LA.

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No, never.

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So, you know, like, a gathering
room. You know, it's not like

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the cool thing out on the grass
with the sun shining, and

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everyone's there, and they're
all dressed up and we throw our

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caps and our caps in the air is
none of that. I mean, that's.

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I think the Navy Academy does
that.

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With a tassel on the other side.
And you know, you've got your

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valedictorian speeches. No, I
don't think it's like that

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outside of the United States.
We're very, very culturally

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embedded in tradition here. So
anyway, all right. I'm sorry. I,

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you know, I'm

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finding it hard to believe. And
I'll tell you why. This is not

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something that we dream up. It
sounds like it came from England

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or France or someplace else,
because there's too much. It's

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too much costumes.

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I don't know, man. We're pretty
good. And when it comes to

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costumes and uniforms in this
country.

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So anyway, but the joke of it
is, is that evergreen because

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it's kind of a free spirit
school, a beast, everyone

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dressed it has a green cap and
gown. About 10% of the people

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dress up in their own outfits.
Okay, so there's a guy in a

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penguin costume. There's women
that are dolled up like they

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just you know when they've
dubbed one I'm Carmen Sandiego.

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wearing white sundress and a big
red hat. Girl in all just a just

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a brightest red tight fitting
dress imaginable

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and what was your son wearing?

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He was wearing a regular cap and
gown. They had up to him and his

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pal. They had a million ideas,
they're going to do this or

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we're going to just stand up and
go seek Heil two one. No way.

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They never got it. They couldn't
manage it. Percy's been awesome.

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They did have good just one guy.
This one character is one of the

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speakers who went his whole
speech was about Obama and how

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we It wasn't about we have to do
something for our country. We

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have to do this. No, we have to
do it for Obama. So we have to

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help Obama. So Obama is the
greatest thing that's ever

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happened and we must help help
him. He needs help. So go forth,

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go forth, and help Obama help
Obama.

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Did you videotape any of this?
That is so YouTube worthy.

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I wish I had that. Oh, the Obama
one I think it's I think they

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did tape it. So I think it's
it's gettable. Oh, that's there

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was some there was the main
here's where the interesting

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thing, the guy who heads the
school or one of the

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Chancellor's. And I was just
kind of stunned by this. He's he

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not just the guy who was the
keynote Commencement speaker,

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whatever you want to call them.
Who was this guy named? Wh yt,

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who bills himself as a corporate
poet. And he of course, he had

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no poetry to read except, you
know. None, actually. Right. And

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he, he was introduced as having
a degree from some weird school

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never heard of, Zhu ology, which
of course, is a mispronunciation

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of the word zoology. Yeah, and
there's not that many O's in the

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word to be pronounced zoology
and geology would be the study

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of zoos.

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So which I think you and I have
a degree in?

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Do we probably we are the zoo.
We are the zoo. ologists. So

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this is done by them. I'm
mumbling to myself as I'm

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walking because I have to take
that ticket. Just probably 500

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photos with zoo ology. I mean,
so then the guy comes out his

444
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white character? And he says,
Yes, I have a degree in marine

445
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,500
zoo ology.

446
00:27:19,530 --> 00:27:23,400
Oh, no. And I'm thinking you're
screwed up going. See, Kyle.

447
00:27:23,999 --> 00:27:29,159
What are you talking about? It's
like nobody that actually has

448
00:27:29,159 --> 00:27:30,119
the degree. Would you

449
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:34,290
ever say that? Yeah, of course.
Well, it's very interesting,

450
00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:38,040
because I was watched. I watched
the Jon Stewart show. Gosh, for

451
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,930
someone who doesn't watch
television, I watch a lot this

452
00:27:39,930 --> 00:27:44,550
week. I watched the Jon Stewart
show maybe Thursday, I'm gonna

453
00:27:44,550 --> 00:27:47,220
say and it was quite
disappointing. It was really not

454
00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:50,490
a good show. I can't put my
finger on it. Why? But more

455
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,890
interestingly, right after the
Jon Stewart show, of course,

456
00:27:52,890 --> 00:27:55,590
Stephen Colbert comes on. And I
didn't know this, but apparently

457
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:57,690
he is with the troops in Iraq.

458
00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:01,050
Yeah, he was doing reports from
there. And he had his

459
00:28:01,050 --> 00:28:03,360
head shaved. And I thought at
first it was like some kind of

460
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:06,090
chroma key joke and like, what
is going on with his hair like,

461
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:09,150
oh, shit, he actually said
shaved it. But he had the deputy

462
00:28:09,150 --> 00:28:12,120
prime minister of Iraq on the
show. And of course, the

463
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:16,680
audience is all fine. Young
servicemen and women. And guess

464
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:22,440
what this guy studied. He
studied probability. And he said

465
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,670
it zoo ology, and I'm gonna sit
there go like, No way, dude, you

466
00:28:26,670 --> 00:28:34,050
cannot sit there and say you're
a zoo ologists? Because of

467
00:28:34,050 --> 00:28:36,450
course, he's not or he's full of
it. Otherwise, he would have

468
00:28:36,450 --> 00:28:41,160
said zoologist. Well, maybe she
Yeah. And then, of course, the

469
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:45,300
the punch line that Colbert had
was, you know, well, how can you

470
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:49,740
be it was like, it was like a
marine zoologist, in fact, and,

471
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:53,760
and the guy who will how many?
How much? How much

472
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,330
practicability does that have in
in Iraq in the desert? And the

473
00:28:57,330 --> 00:28:59,580
guy said, Well, of course,
that's why I studied probability

474
00:28:59,580 --> 00:29:02,520
because I knew I'd really score
well, because the probability of

475
00:29:03,330 --> 00:29:08,340
applying my knowledge in Iraq is
zero. But I just found that

476
00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:11,730
interesting that he pulled out
the zoo ology, instead of

477
00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:12,330
zoology

478
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:18,030
ology. So I know, usually, but
University California, you would

479
00:29:18,030 --> 00:29:23,130
get berated publicly for saying
zoo ology, until you got it

480
00:29:23,130 --> 00:29:25,530
through your head that it's
pronounced zoology. So I'm

481
00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:28,770
looking at a photo here, by the
way, just change the topic back

482
00:29:28,770 --> 00:29:32,250
to commencement ceremonies at
the University of Heidelberg as

483
00:29:32,250 --> 00:29:35,070
a matter of fact, commencement
ceremony and curiously, they're

484
00:29:35,070 --> 00:29:38,520
all wearing caps and gowns and
big red sashes.

485
00:29:38,550 --> 00:29:42,030
Maybe I should not have dropped
out of my freshman year then I

486
00:29:42,030 --> 00:29:42,990
would have known better.

487
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:47,940
And there's more photos from
from Europe.

488
00:29:48,810 --> 00:29:51,360
But they call it graduation
there. I guess that's the big

489
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,570
difference not commencement, and
I don't think the the speeches

490
00:29:54,570 --> 00:29:57,540
are as entertaining. I certainly
have not heard of anyone doing a

491
00:29:57,540 --> 00:30:00,690
commencement speech in Germany
and going seek higher Oh, but I

492
00:30:00,690 --> 00:30:05,970
would. I'm sure they used to.
It's been a while John's been a

493
00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:06,540
while.

494
00:30:09,090 --> 00:30:12,210
They seem to have the same cap
and gown in these German

495
00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:14,280
universities I'm looking at but
they all had the thing that's

496
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,440
different instead of having,
like, for example, he's had all

497
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,470
this green stuff at that
evergreen. The woods they're

498
00:30:19,470 --> 00:30:22,950
called greenies. Is they they
have different coloured sashes

499
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:25,350
and the sashes are quite
colourful. There's I'm looking

500
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:28,410
at some blue ones here. I might
mention something else since

501
00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:31,350
I've just been off that topic
completely. There's a there were

502
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:34,500
a couple of furries. Are you
familiar with these people?

503
00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:37,410
In Second Life? I'm familiar
with the term furries they're

504
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:43,170
the people who have cat like fur
and pretty much only like to

505
00:30:43,170 --> 00:30:45,390
have virtual sex with other
furries.

506
00:30:46,170 --> 00:30:49,440
Yes, well, there's real furries
in the real world. And a couple

507
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,290
of them were dressed up as such
at the commencement one was

508
00:30:52,290 --> 00:30:56,100
dressed up as a panda bear. And
he received his degree and his

509
00:30:56,100 --> 00:31:00,450
girlfriend was dressed up as a
bunny. And she said I have some

510
00:31:00,450 --> 00:31:02,700
great I have actually a portrait
of the two of them because they

511
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:05,820
as they came out, I had moved
myself into position to get some

512
00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:09,630
good shots. And they set a post
so you know, I've been I've been

513
00:31:09,630 --> 00:31:12,780
trying to capture them the whole
time. A lot of people dressed in

514
00:31:12,780 --> 00:31:13,680
drag it is

515
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,160
this a just staying with furries
for a moment? Is this an actual

516
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,900
lifestyle? That people yes, she
was

517
00:31:19,380 --> 00:31:22,620
getting to? Yes, it's a
lifestyle. And the key to it is

518
00:31:22,620 --> 00:31:27,180
it's a sexual cult. When you
call it a cult, and the idea is

519
00:31:27,180 --> 00:31:29,760
is that you find your inner I
had that I didn't know about

520
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,700
this either. But I get the
lectures, you find your inner

521
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,270
animal, what it might be and
forgive your bunny for example,

522
00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:38,730
that means you like to screw a
lot. And

523
00:31:39,570 --> 00:31:44,340
you'd like to get eaten. Sorry,
no, no, no. rimshot Yeah,

524
00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:44,820
thanks.

525
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,100
We need the rim shots. So you
find your inner animal and then

526
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:53,430
you wet you then you dress like
them you become that animal and

527
00:31:53,670 --> 00:31:58,470
you only have sex as a furry so
these people apparently have sex

528
00:31:58,470 --> 00:32:00,090
all dressed up in these
costumes.

529
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,130
Like that seems so these
costumes have trapped doors and

530
00:32:05,130 --> 00:32:05,550
stuff

531
00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:08,460
I have no I have not I didn't go
that far too into it. There's

532
00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:11,640
obviously there's some way of
doing it. Whatever the case is

533
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,030
that

534
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,500
their clubs where you live
furries go and and hook up

535
00:32:16,529 --> 00:32:19,079
there are there are they have? I
don't know if they have

536
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:21,659
nightclubs or places. Yeah, I'm
sure there's something like

537
00:32:21,659 --> 00:32:24,659
that. Because apparently, I was
told that one of the schools

538
00:32:24,659 --> 00:32:28,049
they had there's a there's a
term that you can use. I can't

539
00:32:28,049 --> 00:32:30,299
remember the name of it. But it
had to do with one of the

540
00:32:30,299 --> 00:32:30,929
schools they

541
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,670
arranged it without the word.

542
00:32:34,290 --> 00:32:37,830
It was was it had to do with of
isolating the Furies within an

543
00:32:37,860 --> 00:32:41,670
institution and then and then
apparently some school put them

544
00:32:41,670 --> 00:32:44,040
all in some one group says yeah,
you guys can have your own club

545
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,960
and your own room and they find
out who all the furries really

546
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,060
were. Then they just kicked them
out of the school.

547
00:32:49,530 --> 00:32:50,910
Come to the Club kids.

548
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:53,910
It was almost like one of those
scams where they find the

549
00:32:53,910 --> 00:32:55,980
criminals and they can't get
them to show up for anything.

550
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:57,090
Yeah, they give Yeah.

551
00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:01,170
Like Dateline NBC one of those
scams.

552
00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:04,680
Yeah, here's you. You just won
the lottery. Just meet us.

553
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,990
You're on your collect your
money.

554
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,020
Yeah. Where are white rose.

555
00:33:11,010 --> 00:33:14,070
So, anyway, the Furies so I
didn't know anything about the

556
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:16,380
furries until I because I just
thought these guys are just

557
00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:17,700
dressing up. I didn't know

558
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:19,800
they existed. For real. I
thought it was just a second

559
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,250
life kind of, you know, sexual
fantasy thing that for sure. But

560
00:33:23,250 --> 00:33:25,710
I didn't know that they actually
existed in real life. It makes

561
00:33:25,710 --> 00:33:29,970
sense, I guess. Yeah. You know,
when I when I first saw the

562
00:33:30,030 --> 00:33:34,770
loft, which has, gosh, the
ceilings must be could be like

563
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,690
18 feet, maybe even more or less
the ceiling height? Sounds about

564
00:33:39,690 --> 00:33:42,720
right. And it has, you know, 18
feet, pretty common. Yeah. And

565
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,170
it has, you know, exposed pipes
and stuff. What is the first

566
00:33:46,170 --> 00:33:49,320
thing when you're standing as a
guy, the first thing you think

567
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,660
and uh, guys, I want you to
listen and maybe some gals out

568
00:33:51,660 --> 00:33:55,170
there too. For the for that are
listening to the show. When you

569
00:33:55,170 --> 00:33:58,590
have this, you know, aloft by
the way, by itself, by

570
00:33:58,590 --> 00:34:01,500
definition has something sexual
to it. I'm not quite sure what

571
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:05,460
it is. But it's a sexy type of
thing. And I've never lived in a

572
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:09,000
loft and I've never even thought
I would enjoy the idea and I'm

573
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,450
kind of getting into it. And
when you have an 18 foot ceiling

574
00:34:12,870 --> 00:34:16,710
and you see these these pipes
that are exposed what is the

575
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:18,780
first thing as a guy you think
of

576
00:34:20,339 --> 00:34:23,219
by looking at tall ceiling and
the pipes exposed? Yeah,

577
00:34:23,249 --> 00:34:25,439
I mean, because you're thinking
what could I finish it who's

578
00:34:25,439 --> 00:34:29,939
gonna dust that? Well, that's
you now go into guy mode. What

579
00:34:29,939 --> 00:34:37,379
would you think of hanging from
those from those pipes? Booker's

580
00:34:37,499 --> 00:34:42,539
no a sec swing? Six. I've always
wondered who has one of those

581
00:34:42,539 --> 00:34:43,349
sex wings. I

582
00:34:43,350 --> 00:34:46,710
don't like blades. You can put
one in your loft and Exactly.

583
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,030
Now I know that it's for loft
people.

584
00:34:51,210 --> 00:34:53,460
It's probably going to break the
pipe.

585
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,490
I'm going to get one just to see
what it looks like.

586
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:00,840
But a sec swing. Yeah, I've
always One rabbit figure, you'll

587
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,610
probably get them on the net.
No, no, of

588
00:35:02,610 --> 00:35:04,800
course you can get them on the
net. They used to be in the back

589
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,380
of the magazines. No, of course
you can. I'm sorry.

590
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,510
I have the bandwidth to go look
up six swings, high quality sex

591
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:20,580
switch and get a sex swing at
healthy and active.com for $69

592
00:35:20,610 --> 00:35:20,910
Well,

593
00:35:20,940 --> 00:35:24,210
of course suasana dollars that
makes so much sense.

594
00:35:24,540 --> 00:35:30,450
Right 69 bucks I get it. Bada
bing bungee six wing

595
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:39,180
links dude send me the links all
union union that's an up and

596
00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:42,210
down this X Wing instead of a
back and forth sex wing. That's

597
00:35:42,210 --> 00:35:44,370
interesting. Huh?

598
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:49,740
Well, this would do I think they
went there's a guy here. This is

599
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,420
six wings highlighted on the
website. Ken's twisted

600
00:35:54,420 --> 00:36:03,240
mind.com.com. Divorce. Six.

601
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:06,150
I gotta go. I'm sorry. I started
this. I gotta get you out of it.

602
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:10,410
Quick. John, surely you are
familiar with Zyprexa?

603
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:13,500
No, I'm not familiar with
zoonotic?

604
00:36:13,530 --> 00:36:17,820
Oh, I've heard about that for a
long time. It's a it's an anti

605
00:36:17,820 --> 00:36:19,080
dementia drug.

606
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:25,050
an anti them an anti dimension
drug dementia. I think an anti

607
00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:30,090
dementia dementia, I should say
dementia. Okay, thank you. How

608
00:36:30,090 --> 00:36:34,710
you spell it. As I mentioned
advertised on television. It has

609
00:36:34,860 --> 00:36:37,230
so many side effects that it
shows you take the pill, you

610
00:36:37,230 --> 00:36:38,640
might as well shoot yourself.
Well,

611
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,120
you might as well because Eli
Lilly and CO urge doctors to

612
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:47,340
prescribe Zyprexa for elderly
patients with dementia. Even

613
00:36:47,340 --> 00:36:52,200
though the drugmaker at the time
had evidence, the medicine did

614
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,850
not work for such patients. I
just love it when these guys do

615
00:36:56,850 --> 00:36:57,570
this crap.

616
00:36:58,379 --> 00:36:59,399
It doesn't work.

617
00:37:00,780 --> 00:37:02,760
Anyway, take it anyway. Anyway.

618
00:37:03,629 --> 00:37:07,229
Fixed officials Zyprexa site
bipolar disorder and

619
00:37:07,229 --> 00:37:10,529
schizophrenia can be treated
with Zyprexa

620
00:37:11,580 --> 00:37:15,810
the word bipolar who made that
shit up that's not an actual

621
00:37:15,810 --> 00:37:18,300
medical condition. Is it? That's
just like a marketing term?

622
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:19,200
Please tell me.

623
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,550
No it's it's it's it's it's it
is it's manic depressive, used

624
00:37:23,550 --> 00:37:26,820
to be called manic depressive.
They changed the term to bipolar

625
00:37:26,820 --> 00:37:28,440
about 15 years. My point

626
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,620
as Case in point bipolar is I
mean, if

627
00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:34,140
you've ever known any bipolar
people, you know that it's a

628
00:37:34,140 --> 00:37:35,730
real it's a real illness,

629
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,240
manic depression. Is that a
chemical? I mean, I understand

630
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,330
manic depression is that a and
what is difference between

631
00:37:42,330 --> 00:37:45,600
depression and manic depression?
That means your mania as you

632
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,810
go, but you flip back and forth,
you're depressed. And then you

633
00:37:48,810 --> 00:37:51,900
go crazy high energy and you're
really you know, knock yourself

634
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:54,240
out and you're happier as a
clam. Then you go back to

635
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:58,200
depression, it's like a huge
mood swings that are you know,

636
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,860
everybody has mood swings. Sure.
But these are so massive that

637
00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:05,310
they go way off on one side and
then way down in the other just

638
00:38:05,310 --> 00:38:08,340
near suicidal and can happen
like every day.

639
00:38:08,490 --> 00:38:11,760
And does it really have to be
near suicidal for it to be

640
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,740
actual bipolarism?

641
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:15,030
I don't know.

642
00:38:15,870 --> 00:38:20,010
I like Bipolar. Bipolar is a
much better description of what

643
00:38:20,010 --> 00:38:22,650
it is. But it's still a
marketing term. I don't care

644
00:38:22,650 --> 00:38:23,370
what you say.

645
00:38:23,820 --> 00:38:28,860
Now you got a you run into these
people and it's like, wow, they

646
00:38:28,860 --> 00:38:31,920
flip just doesn't make any
sense.

647
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,370
Is it? Is it a chemical
imbalance? If it's a disease,

648
00:38:35,370 --> 00:38:37,230
then there's some explanation.

649
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:40,050
I think it's a chemical
imbalance. That's why I think

650
00:38:40,050 --> 00:38:42,510
that drugs usually help people
and a lot of people just take

651
00:38:42,510 --> 00:38:45,120
lithium. That seems to stop a
lot of it.

652
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:47,430
Because that's the same type of
stuff that's in batteries.

653
00:38:48,990 --> 00:38:52,470
It's the same element of the
periodic table if that's what

654
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:54,690
you're wondering, I wouldn't
think sucking on a battery is

655
00:38:54,690 --> 00:38:59,220
going to do you much good. Oh,
damn. But no, no, there's a lot

656
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:02,040
of areas of the country there's
a lot of natural lithium and

657
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,850
this like Florida fluoridation,
it the natural lithium in the

658
00:39:05,850 --> 00:39:09,240
water, they found that there's a
low rate of mental illness and

659
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:11,940
some of these places. And so
then they started working with

660
00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:14,670
lithium, it turns out that
lithium stabilises a lot of

661
00:39:14,670 --> 00:39:16,230
people that would otherwise be
crazy.

662
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,470
Well, anyway, regulators
required Eli Lilly and other

663
00:39:19,470 --> 00:39:23,310
anti psychotic drug makers in
2005. To warn that the products

664
00:39:23,310 --> 00:39:26,880
pose an increased risk to
elderly patients with dementia

665
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,590
create reason to prescribe it.
In this document, which you can

666
00:39:31,590 --> 00:39:34,620
find a course link in the show
notes shows the health dangers

667
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:37,590
and marketing a drug for an
unapproved use which is called

668
00:39:37,590 --> 00:39:43,950
the off label promotion. By
definition, off label means pay

669
00:39:43,950 --> 00:39:47,460
attention people, there is no
clear evidence that the benefits

670
00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:53,220
of a drug outweigh the risks.
And an off label promotion I

671
00:39:53,220 --> 00:39:54,630
guess is illegal.

672
00:39:55,350 --> 00:39:57,960
Yeah, that's where they go out
and they do the sales guys pull

673
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,520
that crap. Right. So I'm in fact
I'm looking at the Zyprexa site

674
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,170
here which is obviously owned by
the drug company, Eli Lilly.

675
00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:11,430
And what a fine what a fine name
does it sound kind of like happy

676
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:14,220
and purple, Eli Lilly, we make

677
00:40:14,250 --> 00:40:17,730
like there's a big box text here
it says elderly people with

678
00:40:17,730 --> 00:40:21,360
psychosis related to dementia, a
brain disorder that lessens the

679
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,230
ability to remember think and
reason are at increased risk of

680
00:40:25,230 --> 00:40:29,490
death when taking certain mental
illness or mental health

681
00:40:29,490 --> 00:40:33,360
medicines such as eye prexy
compared with a sugar pill.

682
00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:37,500
Zyprexa is not approved for
these patients. That's an Xbox

683
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:38,070
text.

684
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:44,880
Zyprexa does $4.7 billion in
sales, it was their best drug.

685
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,190
Anti psychotics, as a group in
the United States $14.6 billion

686
00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:54,270
industry. We got a lot of fucked
up people.

687
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,930
Yeah, well, they're probably
more fucked up from the drugs,

688
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,950
please. I've seen it happen. And
that's Ritalin, that shit they

689
00:41:01,950 --> 00:41:05,430
give to kids, which parents just
like pop pop that in the kid's

690
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:09,510
mouth was like, it's like m&ms.
And that stuff is so

691
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:15,810
destructive. It's so bad. Give
your kid some chamomile tea, and

692
00:41:15,810 --> 00:41:17,520
tie him down to the chair with a
belt.

693
00:41:20,460 --> 00:41:22,470
We've been following watch boo
BA

694
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:28,380
from their SEC swing. We've been
following Baxter International,

695
00:41:29,130 --> 00:41:33,450
which of course is a specialty
drug maker indirectly owned by

696
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,780
the US government. Now we've
discussed that on the show

697
00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:39,930
before. They're a part of a
larger company, which

698
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,950
exclusively has governmental
contracts. This is the company

699
00:41:44,190 --> 00:41:49,320
that accidentally bypassed
biohazard level three security

700
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,420
and somehow was able to mix up
regular old seasonal flu vaccine

701
00:41:54,420 --> 00:42:00,810
with the bird flu and
distributed it to their 18

702
00:42:00,810 --> 00:42:04,650
European countries. And
apparently it never got into the

703
00:42:04,830 --> 00:42:10,440
into the doctor's office, but
who the hell knows. They are, of

704
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,550
course, at this moment in time
in full production of the swine

705
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:18,510
flu vaccine. They say, Hey,
we're in full full scale

706
00:42:18,510 --> 00:42:22,050
production of a swine flu which
by the way in Europe is called

707
00:42:22,050 --> 00:42:25,050
the Mexican flu. I want to make
that very clear. They do not

708
00:42:25,050 --> 00:42:28,950
call it if you say swine flu in.
In Europe, people go Huh, what

709
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:31,530
are you talking about Mexican
flu. Oh, I understand what

710
00:42:31,530 --> 00:42:33,930
you're talking about. And it
will be commercially available

711
00:42:33,930 --> 00:42:38,370
in July. The company made his
announcement Friday, one day

712
00:42:38,370 --> 00:42:41,160
after the World Health
Organisation declared swine flu

713
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,610
a global pandemic. Oops, missed
that one. They raise it to level

714
00:42:44,610 --> 00:42:49,710
35 Or whatever it is now. Baxter
said its patented technology

715
00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:53,100
cuts in half the usual time it
takes to develop a vaccine to

716
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,830
about 13 weeks instead of 26.

717
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,950
And it's because they're
obviously just a sloppy job.

718
00:43:00,060 --> 00:43:05,730
One thing worth pointing out
that specialty drugmaker Baxter

719
00:43:05,730 --> 00:43:09,930
International. It's
headquartered in Illinois.

720
00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:14,700
Yeah, I think we'd you did that
before. I just

721
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:19,410
have to keep pointing it out.
The centre of the global mafia

722
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:25,320
that runs our country. Yeah,
UFOs exist. I believe in them.

723
00:43:26,430 --> 00:43:31,950
So, so I'm watching it with C
span or CNN or Charlie Rose or,

724
00:43:32,430 --> 00:43:34,770
or I don't know who is just one
of these shows where you're

725
00:43:34,770 --> 00:43:43,020
talking to people. All right. So
they had this woman on the head

726
00:43:43,020 --> 00:43:45,540
of the World Health
Organisation, Margaret Margaret

727
00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:50,280
Chan. Is she ever uniform on?
She's from China? And she seems

728
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,480
like a dimwit.

729
00:43:51,540 --> 00:43:53,820
Did you have a uniform on? No,
she

730
00:43:53,820 --> 00:43:56,250
would know she didn't. She was
just wearing, you know, a

731
00:43:56,730 --> 00:44:02,280
blazer. So he my underwear?
Sure. She just seemed, you know,

732
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,230
I don't know if anybody watched
the older versions of Mad TV,

733
00:44:07,230 --> 00:44:11,670
but she reminded me a little bit
of Miss swan. And I don't recall

734
00:44:11,790 --> 00:44:14,790
if anyone out there who knows,
you'll know exactly what I'm

735
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:17,850
talking about. But she just
seems like a dummy. I mean, I

736
00:44:17,850 --> 00:44:20,550
just thought, why is this woman
running things and she's going

737
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:23,760
on with all these excuses. And,
you know, maybe it's maybe she's

738
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,550
a genius, but she doesn't speak
very good English, which sounds

739
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:30,000
like She sounds like she speaks
good English. There's just not

740
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,040
right. But I was not pressed.

741
00:44:32,910 --> 00:44:36,510
Okay. And was there any any new
information or was this harsh?

742
00:44:36,510 --> 00:44:38,700
He's just going on and on about
how people don't understand what

743
00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:40,050
a pandemic is,

744
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,660
oh, yeah, this this is their
whole kind of backpedalling

745
00:44:42,660 --> 00:44:43,260
theme

746
00:44:43,290 --> 00:44:46,260
the new meme is no pandemic is
in every country in the world

747
00:44:46,260 --> 00:44:48,870
that does this it's a pandemic
so this all panic and run around

748
00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:51,360
in a circle with the arms waving
in the air screaming

749
00:44:51,390 --> 00:44:54,240
right well, that will the mean
is you know, you probably won't

750
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:58,860
die from the pandemic but
because it because the virus

751
00:44:58,860 --> 00:45:01,800
propagates so quick quickly or
as unpredictable, they have some

752
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,760
really weird set of metrics that
determines what a pandemic is an

753
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,380
ergo, for the first time in 45
years, they have actually raised

754
00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:13,890
the threat level to what is it
six or seven? And yeah, and we

755
00:45:13,890 --> 00:45:16,500
and we have a pandemic, it's
like, you know,

756
00:45:16,530 --> 00:45:19,740
well, she did hinted one thing
in this interview that I did I

757
00:45:20,010 --> 00:45:22,260
tried to get a clip of it. I
don't know why I didn't, but

758
00:45:22,290 --> 00:45:26,010
maybe I shot it out. But it was
a commencement

759
00:45:26,010 --> 00:45:27,060
doing see, Kyle's

760
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:34,650
See, Kyle, we must help Obama.
She will she made mention that

761
00:45:34,650 --> 00:45:37,800
there was a fear. Okay, I just
said this subtly, but it was

762
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,450
like, she's worried the worry is
the following. Yeah. Okay. This

763
00:45:42,450 --> 00:45:44,760
thing is not a big deal.
Nobody's really dropping like

764
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,100
flies. We don't really know what
happened in Mexico that killed

765
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:49,260
us, you know, 15 in the one
place, it could have been

766
00:45:49,260 --> 00:45:52,080
something else. She says the
problem is, and I think there

767
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,020
may be some somebody but it was,
of course, whoever was

768
00:45:55,020 --> 00:45:58,920
interviewing her didn't do any
follow up. She says, because

769
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,280
it's a talk show. She says
they're right, why should they

770
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:07,710
be talking? So she says that we
don't want to have the promise h

771
00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:12,090
one, end five or h five and one
that the bird flu. And this

772
00:46:12,090 --> 00:46:14,760
thing h one and one are both
floating around at the same

773
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,490
time? And what we don't want is
these two to bump into each

774
00:46:17,490 --> 00:46:20,280
other. Yeah. And create, you
know, something that we really

775
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,830
have a problem with? Well,

776
00:46:23,220 --> 00:46:25,860
just you don't have to worry
about that. Because Baxter does

777
00:46:25,860 --> 00:46:30,960
it for you. Isn't that what
they're hired to do? Don't worry

778
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,140
about it back. She was doing it
already Baxter's on the case,

779
00:46:34,140 --> 00:46:39,300
why worry? It's already taken
care of? Well, you know, and can

780
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:41,670
you imagine if you could have
meetings would you have if

781
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:44,910
you're a corporate guy, you're
in the board and say, Look, our

782
00:46:44,940 --> 00:46:47,910
vaccine sales are up this year.
But what can we do?

783
00:46:47,940 --> 00:46:50,610
We keep waiting to double that
we know

784
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:53,400
how to exactly do we sell?

785
00:46:53,790 --> 00:46:56,970
No, no. Here's how do we move
the needle on our stock people

786
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,690
that that's that's how it goes?
Come on people. I'm the CEO of

787
00:47:00,690 --> 00:47:03,390
Baxter International. How do we
move the needle on our stock?

788
00:47:03,390 --> 00:47:05,970
Come on, everyone's got options.
We got to get this thing moving

789
00:47:06,090 --> 00:47:08,850
there. But your options are
about to vest. So what can we do

790
00:47:08,850 --> 00:47:15,060
here? Mm hmm. I don't think they
actually have those meetings.

791
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:21,660
But it's in the DNA of the
company. For sure, yeah. No,

792
00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:24,840
there's a lot of that DNA
related decision making, which I

793
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,180
agree. I mean, sometimes they
might have a meeting like that.

794
00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:28,950
But it seems unlikely because
they need someone to write a

795
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:31,980
memo down, you'd be in jail. But
generally speaking, it's like

796
00:47:31,980 --> 00:47:35,820
when people say, Well, you know,
you're, you work for a news

797
00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:39,030
organisation that's owned by
NBC, which is owned by General

798
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:43,440
Electric. How can we not do any
stories about the Detroit

799
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,380
failure of a jet engine as made
by General Electric and you run

800
00:47:46,380 --> 00:47:52,050
it on the news? Well, we haven't
really found such a thing it has

801
00:47:52,050 --> 00:47:54,570
anyone ever told you not to do
us negative story in General

802
00:47:54,570 --> 00:47:59,070
Electric? No, no, absolutely
not. No one has ever ever, ever

803
00:47:59,070 --> 00:48:01,920
said to do not to do a negative
story in General Electric, which

804
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,220
I believe would be the truth.
No, but nobody in their right

805
00:48:05,220 --> 00:48:06,120
mind would do it. Oh,

806
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:10,290
and that brings me to an email
from Chris Clark. Just following

807
00:48:10,290 --> 00:48:13,020
up on last on the last no
agenda, where we're talking

808
00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:15,750
about Taylor Swift. And what
were the connections for Taylor

809
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:18,900
Swift, the fine Country and
Western artists who noodles

810
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:26,220
around and as Ergo a musical.
Wow. So here's the here's the

811
00:48:26,220 --> 00:48:28,980
connection. I'll just read his
email. It's from Orlando. And of

812
00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:31,500
course, we could have figured
this one out Taylor Swift's

813
00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:35,430
quote, music. I like that nice
little editorial there. Chris is

814
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:39,240
being distributed by Universal
Music Group, which is owned by

815
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:44,640
Vivendi. Vivendi, sold some or
all of Universal Studios to NBC

816
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,360
a few years ago. And of course,
NBC aired the interview of the

817
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:54,570
genius. Taylor Swift. Bingo.
Yeah, that's how it works.

818
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,770
That's how it works.

819
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,670
Yeah, it's one big scam. And but

820
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:02,130
but they don't even know they're
doing it, which is just the

821
00:49:02,130 --> 00:49:06,420
crazy thing. You know, I when I
was at MTV man and Viacom. It

822
00:49:06,420 --> 00:49:10,230
was so obvious how this stuff
worked. You know, and people

823
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:14,610
just be like, Yeah, this artists
is really cool. Oh, yeah.

824
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,510
Awesome. And, you know, and
they'll be talking to their

825
00:49:18,510 --> 00:49:22,890
buddies over the other channels,
it flows. It's you become part

826
00:49:22,890 --> 00:49:25,830
of an organism, a
compartmentalised organism, and

827
00:49:25,830 --> 00:49:31,080
that just happens. And it's not
even necessarily big evil. You

828
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:31,290
know, I

829
00:49:31,290 --> 00:49:33,630
wonder how many people really
notice this because I know my

830
00:49:33,630 --> 00:49:36,240
kids do. What, for example, your

831
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:39,120
kids seek Highland commencement.
I mean, clearly, they're not the

832
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:39,780
norm.

833
00:49:40,410 --> 00:49:44,130
The point is, is that might when
we're watching CBS, it's kind of

834
00:49:44,130 --> 00:49:46,260
funny because you sitting around
with me if everybody's watching

835
00:49:46,260 --> 00:49:50,250
this 60 minutes, which is rare,
because most people don't like

836
00:49:50,250 --> 00:49:54,210
to show us at me. And there'll
be there'll be a news story,

837
00:49:54,210 --> 00:49:56,820
hard news or hard news, right?
Then there'll be some fluff

838
00:49:56,820 --> 00:50:01,680
piece about some singer or an
actor. Der or and the kids will

839
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,270
always go to Viacom movie 10
bucks, it's Viacom go look it up

840
00:50:06,270 --> 00:50:09,420
on the net. Of course, that's
like it, but it's like, why is

841
00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:13,740
60 minutes? You know, once the
age, just baffling 60 minutes,

842
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:17,880
which does, you know, huge world
events, talks to world leaders,

843
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,680
and then all sudden, they come
up with a with a big fluff

844
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,310
piece. Yeah, well, and they make
those pieces months in advance,

845
00:50:23,310 --> 00:50:26,190
sometimes John, it's just on the
shelf. Don't forget, in the

846
00:50:26,310 --> 00:50:30,090
traditional broadcast medium,
you have to make, let me think

847
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:35,700
60 minutes, you know, so without
commercials, of course, 46. But

848
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:39,000
you have to make 46 minutes of
programming every single week,

849
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,130
and you need some pad, as they
call it,

850
00:50:41,130 --> 00:50:42,180
it's down to 40 as

851
00:50:43,290 --> 00:50:47,370
you could be right. You couldn't
be right, the way I'm seeing the

852
00:50:47,370 --> 00:50:48,450
television these days.

853
00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:50,820
I think it's 40 minutes an hour
now.

854
00:50:50,850 --> 00:50:54,690
So we need padding, you know,
and that pad comes in the form

855
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:57,690
of a two minute piece, a four
minute piece or a six minute

856
00:50:57,690 --> 00:51:00,360
piece that can be chopped down
to a three minute piece, you

857
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,290
know, and then of course, the
credits are really the final

858
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:08,940
major. I love the way you
pronounce that. And the

859
00:51:08,970 --> 00:51:11,970
depending on how much time is
left, they will speed up the

860
00:51:11,970 --> 00:51:16,050
credits or slow them down to hit
their 60 minutes. Exactly.

861
00:51:16,050 --> 00:51:18,510
Including all the commercials.
That's how it works because you

862
00:51:18,510 --> 00:51:23,160
gotta hit the commercial pod,
right on the dot. People don't

863
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,410
realise this you don't know when
sometimes you see a show and the

864
00:51:25,410 --> 00:51:31,500
credits go by Oh, it's so fast
that on your, on your on your

865
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:35,130
LCD screen. It's actually
completely unreadable. They do

866
00:51:35,130 --> 00:51:38,400
that because they're trying to
cram in all the credits into the

867
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,320
exact amount of time they have
left.

868
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:43,409
Yeah, no, they credit roll is
used as a kind of a buffer a

869
00:51:43,409 --> 00:51:46,349
bumper, yeah, buffer a bumper
buffer to buffer that you got

870
00:51:46,349 --> 00:51:48,779
you didn't when you see a slow
credit roll, which is the one

871
00:51:48,779 --> 00:51:51,269
always cracks me up and they
start showing credits for people

872
00:51:51,269 --> 00:51:55,169
they never show the extra names
they put on and I like to thank

873
00:51:55,169 --> 00:51:59,969
my mother and you go oh my god,
somebody screwed up. Yes. When

874
00:51:59,969 --> 00:52:03,179
you have a credit roll then you
know that that the show ended

875
00:52:03,179 --> 00:52:05,699
too soon somebody hit or miss
timing or something. So who

876
00:52:05,699 --> 00:52:08,609
knows? Yeah. And the Simpsons do
it kind of on both ends of the

877
00:52:08,609 --> 00:52:12,119
show that at the beginning of
their show, they have variations

878
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:15,539
of the of their opening cartoon
words where Homer is driving

879
00:52:15,539 --> 00:52:20,369
home from work after leaving the
the nuke plant. And it's

880
00:52:20,369 --> 00:52:22,859
sometimes they'll compress that
no leaves sections of it out.

881
00:52:22,859 --> 00:52:26,309
And they use that to buffer the
show today, because I did yeah.

882
00:52:26,669 --> 00:52:28,919
You have a real short version.
That's almost like he just

883
00:52:28,919 --> 00:52:31,019
pretty much gets out of work.
And at home.

884
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:36,390
I will say it is so impressive
when you see how the big

885
00:52:37,830 --> 00:52:42,870
broadcast personalities i When
the MSNBC launched and they were

886
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:46,920
over in New Jersey. This was
with my previous company. Oh

887
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,490
actually was before think it was
onramp. And Microsoft, who of

888
00:52:50,490 --> 00:52:57,450
course, were one of the partners
with NBC. They they needed a

889
00:52:57,450 --> 00:53:03,660
chat to to go along with some of
their programming, and I can't

890
00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:06,300
remember exactly how but
actually, it was Denise What was

891
00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:10,470
her name? Who was a Microsoft
woman? I'm sure you know her

892
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,040
Caruso, I want to say, does that
make sense? And he's Caruso.

893
00:53:14,220 --> 00:53:15,900
She was a journalist. No.

894
00:53:17,550 --> 00:53:20,040
It wasn't Denise something other
than she was in charge of at the

895
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,240
time, it was Microsoft comic
chat. Remember that? We have

896
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:25,500
this little avatars,

897
00:53:25,500 --> 00:53:27,840
right? It's another thing that
failed. Of course, they never

898
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,820
stick to these things is what
problems it couldn't

899
00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:33,330
scale. This was the problem. So
they couldn't scale it. And the

900
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,970
the team within Microsoft was
really worried. And they but

901
00:53:35,970 --> 00:53:38,850
they wanted some form of chat.
And we had a bunch of these

902
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:45,390
hacker boys like with names like
rat boy. And I forget, Alan

903
00:53:45,390 --> 00:53:48,150
Louie was one not that that's a
cool name. But I just remember

904
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:51,300
these guys. And they had
basically hacked together a

905
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:56,970
very, very, very basic, very
frickin simple CGI script into

906
00:53:56,970 --> 00:54:01,140
an IRC, you know, proven
technology, right? Go figure.

907
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:06,180
And so we had this really robust
chat based on IRC, which I to

908
00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:10,140
this day, obviously still can't
figure out. And so they hired us

909
00:54:10,170 --> 00:54:14,250
to implement this. And because
of that, we were we were invited

910
00:54:14,250 --> 00:54:17,760
to the opening. And you'll
recall, perhaps that the big

911
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,740
interview they had an opening
day was Tom Brokaw. Tom Brokaw,

912
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,750
Tom Brokaw tried to ruin
President Bill Clinton. And I

913
00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:32,820
sat in the control room, and I
was blown away by the

914
00:54:32,820 --> 00:54:36,750
professionalism of this guy. So
he's got his earpiece in and

915
00:54:36,750 --> 00:54:40,140
he's talking, he's having a
conversation and I believe he is

916
00:54:40,140 --> 00:54:44,250
listening to what the then
President was saying. And so

917
00:54:44,250 --> 00:54:47,880
they're having a dialogue and
the producer is continuously

918
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,510
talking into his ear and giving
him cues and then it's like,

919
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:54,570
okay, Tom, well, we have 30
seconds to commercial while

920
00:54:54,570 --> 00:54:59,790
Brokaw is talking. And, and he's
counting down the seconds and

921
00:54:59,790 --> 00:55:02,880
bro Cole fires off another
question, which he knows is only

922
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,270
going to get a quick yes or no
answer. And he pulls back away

923
00:55:06,270 --> 00:55:09,420
from the President and hits the
commercial break right on the

924
00:55:09,420 --> 00:55:13,590
nose. And I still get goosebumps
when I think about that that

925
00:55:13,590 --> 00:55:17,280
actual sequence it is unfreaking
real how good these guys are.

926
00:55:19,230 --> 00:55:22,350
You know, I do a lot every once
once I have one of these remote

927
00:55:22,350 --> 00:55:24,570
crews from one of the big
networks come by the house or

928
00:55:24,570 --> 00:55:28,830
something to shoot or some two
second thing a blurb. Yeah. And

929
00:55:28,830 --> 00:55:31,380
I'm always grilling him about
people they worked with. And at

930
00:55:31,380 --> 00:55:35,130
one time, I was working with the
ABC network crew and they just

931
00:55:35,130 --> 00:55:37,050
have a thing called Sunday
business and I got to do a

932
00:55:37,050 --> 00:55:40,350
report on it. And so I was
chatting with the guys and I

933
00:55:40,350 --> 00:55:43,620
know about this, these kinds of
guys who have the multitasking

934
00:55:43,620 --> 00:55:47,310
ability to listen to the IFBB in
their ear and and it makes it

935
00:55:47,310 --> 00:55:47,580
look

936
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:51,330
like I can do some of that but
not like Broca Well of course

937
00:55:51,330 --> 00:55:51,690
not. That's

938
00:55:51,690 --> 00:55:53,820
why Broncos making millions of
dollars but they always said

939
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:56,970
that the guy who was the
absolute best at the stuff and

940
00:55:57,390 --> 00:56:01,920
totally underrated was Forrest
Sawyer. Really? Yeah, they were

941
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,080
they the guy says that
apparently Forrest Sawyer is

942
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:09,060
legendary amongst various crews
for being so slick. He never

943
00:56:09,060 --> 00:56:13,080
flubs a line. He can pick up the
stuff off the IFBB His timing is

944
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:18,510
impeccable. He's just apparently
just astonishing. He, he went

945
00:56:18,510 --> 00:56:21,000
off, and I've always wondered
why he ever got into you know,

946
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,490
he never took over the Nightline
job or stuff like that. I think

947
00:56:23,490 --> 00:56:24,780
he I don't know what you know
why?

948
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:28,230
I know why. Because he's so he's
he's like a flying goalie. I

949
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:30,930
mean, you need a guy like that
within your team to be able to

950
00:56:30,930 --> 00:56:33,810
throw into any kind of
situation, particularly if he

951
00:56:33,810 --> 00:56:37,440
has that an if B is internal
feedback, I think is what what

952
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,300
it stands for. I mean, I when we
did Mardi Gras live at MTV,

953
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:45,900
that's when I kind of became the
force Sawyer of MTV. Dammit,

954
00:56:45,900 --> 00:56:50,760
there it is. I am the forced
Sawyer of MTV. Because I could

955
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,910
do that too, within the limits
of you know, the complexity of

956
00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:58,110
Mardi Gras on MTV, but I knew I
could take the direction and I

957
00:56:58,140 --> 00:57:01,380
and I could pretty much keep all
the shit together on a live

958
00:57:01,380 --> 00:57:04,050
remote, where you might actually
have to go over someone else and

959
00:57:04,050 --> 00:57:06,990
kind of anchor that so makes
total sense to me that Forrest

960
00:57:06,990 --> 00:57:10,350
Sawyer would would not have a
full time position but you know,

961
00:57:10,350 --> 00:57:13,470
would be kind of the guy you can
put into any throw into

962
00:57:13,470 --> 00:57:16,770
anything. Because he he probably
just loves doing it too.

963
00:57:17,070 --> 00:57:18,600
Well, I don't know how much
you'd love it because it seems

964
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,730
to me is that he quit the
network and he went off to some

965
00:57:20,730 --> 00:57:24,480
university to teach and give
seminars. Now. He does new media

966
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,940
stuff he's not it's just he's
out of his element completely.

967
00:57:26,940 --> 00:57:30,240
I'm actually following his
career so much, but I've ran

968
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,740
into him on some C span thing
where he was hosting a, you

969
00:57:34,740 --> 00:57:39,090
know, one of these panels of
dullards that sit at the table

970
00:57:39,090 --> 00:57:42,600
all in a row. And each one of
them says a five minute

971
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,110
presentation and they go back
and forth with a non non

972
00:57:46,110 --> 00:57:47,790
interesting conversation kind of
thing.

973
00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:50,880
Well, it's probably because he
had to do a Zyprexa story and he

974
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,010
got so disgusted by everything
he just quit

975
00:57:53,580 --> 00:57:56,130
not no I'd be worth check
checking out I know he's

976
00:57:56,130 --> 00:57:58,380
floating around somewhere but
anyway, he was like the guy they

977
00:57:58,380 --> 00:58:01,200
bring up his name I went okay,
so I started watching him after

978
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,200
that with that in mind and I
just see if he could you know if

979
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,200
there was ever going to be one
mistake it was just like not

980
00:58:07,230 --> 00:58:08,160
like a machine

981
00:58:08,580 --> 00:58:10,380
you said something very
interesting by the way the

982
00:58:10,380 --> 00:58:14,310
beginning of this little
dialogue about AI FBS and forest

983
00:58:14,310 --> 00:58:18,720
you use the term blurb which I
liked very much and I think we

984
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,280
should bring back my mom used to
say that all the time a blurb I

985
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:23,550
don't think

986
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,700
it's in massive use in the
magazine business.

987
00:58:27,210 --> 00:58:32,370
Yeah, exactly. Which which means
which means no one uses it

988
00:58:32,370 --> 00:58:35,070
because no one reads magazines
or books anymore. So

989
00:58:35,250 --> 00:58:38,130
the book every one of those
little quotes that says I think

990
00:58:38,130 --> 00:58:40,620
this book is the greatest thing
ever says so and so

991
00:58:40,620 --> 00:58:42,630
Entertainment Weekly that's a
blurb who could you

992
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:46,170
please look up the definition
online right now for me of blurb

993
00:58:46,170 --> 00:58:50,850
I wonder if it is defined as
such in Webster's blurb and by

994
00:58:50,850 --> 00:58:54,090
the way, this is probably a fine
time as we near the end of this

995
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,260
episode have no agenda to talk
about why you we need your help

996
00:58:58,890 --> 00:59:01,110
to continue this fine
programming.

997
00:59:02,010 --> 00:59:04,140
Yes. And we went and like

998
00:59:07,050 --> 00:59:08,430
blurb is not defined?

999
00:59:09,090 --> 00:59:13,770
Unless it was looking like let
me try it again. blurb Cersei

1000
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,350
we need your financial help so
that we can actually go look

1001
00:59:16,350 --> 00:59:17,640
things up for you. Yeah, we

1002
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,550
can look stuff up on the
internet. Yeah, the payoffs for

1003
00:59:20,550 --> 00:59:26,490
it. We no more it was actually a
1914 coinage by Gillette

1004
00:59:26,490 --> 00:59:32,400
Burgess. And it means a short
publicity notice as on a book

1005
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:33,030
jacket.

1006
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:38,370
Okay, so it's but it's key word
publicity. So it's a blurb is

1007
00:59:38,370 --> 00:59:40,770
not news. It's PR

1008
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,470
that by definition,

1009
00:59:43,709 --> 00:59:47,579
yes. Well, I like it. I think we
should bring blurb back into the

1010
00:59:47,849 --> 00:59:52,679
mainstream, which of course is
the internet. Let's use that.

1011
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:53,519
Alright,

1012
00:59:53,729 --> 00:59:58,349
well blurb it. Excellent. And by
the way, it can be used as a

1013
00:59:58,349 --> 01:00:02,909
noun or a transitive verb. Love
it. So you can blurb it.

1014
01:00:03,060 --> 01:00:05,220
And what's the transitive noun?
What is that?

1015
01:00:06,270 --> 01:00:12,510
It's an it's a type of is it's
what is the data transitive now

1016
01:00:12,510 --> 01:00:16,320
and is a transitive verb and a
noun a blurb is the is the thing

1017
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,820
and and it's just basically a
thing you can do. You'll give

1018
01:00:20,820 --> 01:00:24,030
her it's a free you can't you
know, it's like, it's like any

1019
01:00:24,030 --> 01:00:27,930
other. It's like most verbs.
It's almost all of our

1020
01:00:27,930 --> 01:00:28,530
transitive

1021
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,040
but it's okay. It's interesting
how you just said, we can blurb

1022
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,990
it at so close to blogging,
isn't it?

1023
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,090
Blog would be a transitive verb
in that sense, right?

1024
01:00:39,870 --> 01:00:42,630
All right, so could you please
blurb a little bit about our

1025
01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:43,290
armoury?

1026
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:48,870
Well, we can use some, we just
shows publicly supported, I want

1027
01:00:48,870 --> 01:00:51,600
to remind everybody that and
we're trying to keep it, so keep

1028
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,550
it that way. But so we don't sit
here and do five minute

1029
01:00:53,550 --> 01:00:57,090
commercials for various
products. You know,

1030
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:01,290
like Squarespace and GoDaddy,
and the same as

1031
01:01:01,650 --> 01:01:04,560
your everyplace else. And it's
like, which is nothing wrong

1032
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,840
with doing that, if you don't
mind. And some people actually

1033
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,880
send us notes saying, Well, you
know, you might as well do

1034
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,370
commercials, or we're sick of
you asking for money, we only

1035
01:01:11,370 --> 01:01:14,610
ask for money for about 30
seconds, as opposed to two or

1036
01:01:14,610 --> 01:01:17,100
three minute commercials where
we asking you to do this and

1037
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:19,050
that and the other thing, which
is pretty much the same thing.

1038
01:01:19,050 --> 01:01:20,490
And we're just telling you to
just give us some money

1039
01:01:20,490 --> 01:01:23,880
directly. So we can not worry
about you know, we might have

1040
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:24,750
some influences

1041
01:01:24,750 --> 01:01:28,140
and not you know, we'd so we can
be completely zero.

1042
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,810
I mean, at some point, okay,
maybe, you know, we won't be

1043
01:01:30,810 --> 01:01:33,750
able to we were going to prove
that we won't get enough public

1044
01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:39,030
support, we won't get enough
donations@dvorak.org slash in a

1045
01:01:39,390 --> 01:01:44,280
dis divorce.org/enter You can
sign up. And you know, but we

1046
01:01:44,490 --> 01:01:46,410
actually haven't done any
premiums or anything like that,

1047
01:01:46,410 --> 01:01:48,180
which some people complain
about, but I think we're going

1048
01:01:48,180 --> 01:01:51,270
to probably have to do that. In
other words, give away a book or

1049
01:01:51,390 --> 01:01:56,280
something when we get Hema
underwear. The Hema and by the

1050
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,640
way, the voert.org/na By the
way, the HEMA underwear thing I

1051
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,210
was thinking about the
embroidery, you know, I think it

1052
01:02:03,210 --> 01:02:06,840
might not be a good idea. Oh,
boy, you don't want a bunch of

1053
01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:11,280
knots and strings and threads
and rubbing against rubbing

1054
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,900
against your private parts.

1055
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,520
I was just trying to visualise
if I wanted that or not.

1056
01:02:18,090 --> 01:02:20,550
You know, you're gonna get it
you're gonna have a you know, so

1057
01:02:20,550 --> 01:02:21,210
it'd be boring.

1058
01:02:21,900 --> 01:02:24,930
Maybe on the waistband. I mean,
we've got it the waistband won't

1059
01:02:24,930 --> 01:02:25,950
hurt you, Willa. Yeah,

1060
01:02:25,950 --> 01:02:28,140
but the waistband and that
really good was really kind of

1061
01:02:28,140 --> 01:02:30,930
thin. It's not like a big fat
waistband like you know cheap

1062
01:02:30,930 --> 01:02:31,950
jockey shorts.

1063
01:02:32,670 --> 01:02:36,990
Okay, well, I'm, I have a
prototype coming. So we can we

1064
01:02:36,990 --> 01:02:40,320
can try the prototype. We can we
can try the prototype. I'll get

1065
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,530
the you get the black jockey
version and I get the you know

1066
01:02:43,530 --> 01:02:47,130
the cool kind of surfer dude
with pant pant legs. And we'll

1067
01:02:47,130 --> 01:02:50,340
try it we'll see if we if we
like it. I don't think it's

1068
01:02:50,340 --> 01:02:52,830
going to bother you at all the
embroidery I take your point.

1069
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,150
But you know, a premium is a
premium for them. And let's

1070
01:02:57,150 --> 01:03:02,910
learn from MTV. Okay. I mean,
Christ crepes. Craig Crikey. How

1071
01:03:02,910 --> 01:03:06,570
about just a blurb? We'll put a
blurb on the HEMA underwear

1072
01:03:06,810 --> 01:03:09,660
blurb. So I just crashed my

1073
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:15,030
Firefox did you guys update 3.5
million, which of course

1074
01:03:15,030 --> 01:03:17,640
automatically downloads and
kills everything you're doing.

1075
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,640
And you never can figure it out
until you get that dialogue box

1076
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,370
saying, Hey, we downloaded this
for you suck. Ah,

1077
01:03:24,510 --> 01:03:26,400
I have no idea I might have.

1078
01:03:26,430 --> 01:03:29,310
It's quite annoying. I hate it
when they do that. So it

1079
01:03:29,310 --> 01:03:29,880
crashed.

1080
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,600
And I just said and it said you
want me to send a message? No,

1081
01:03:33,630 --> 01:03:36,210
don't. Don't Don't click it.
What's the point

1082
01:03:36,330 --> 01:03:40,440
that we didn't have any good
donations since last Thursday?

1083
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:40,950
anything?

1084
01:03:41,580 --> 01:03:45,360
Nothing? Major. I end the ones
that did come in. I'll mention

1085
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:46,890
them on the next Thursday show.

1086
01:03:46,919 --> 01:03:52,919
Well, thanks, everybody. We
really appreciate it. All right,

1087
01:03:52,919 --> 01:03:56,999
John, what are we at? I've got
count 65 Take off the beginning

1088
01:03:56,999 --> 01:04:00,569
about 61 minutes. So we've been
trying to there's a couple more

1089
01:04:00,569 --> 01:04:03,899
things I want to mention. Oh,
I'm sorry. Should I stop the the

1090
01:04:03,989 --> 01:04:05,159
credit music?

1091
01:04:05,460 --> 01:04:08,130
Oh, no measurement and actual
image. Let me tease him then.

1092
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,950
Okay. I'm gonna talk about this
on PBS programming, including

1093
01:04:10,950 --> 01:04:14,820
kids biz or biz kids or
whatever. It's Oh, yes. Where

1094
01:04:14,820 --> 01:04:18,300
they show a Jewish guy in a
money safe counting money.

1095
01:04:20,130 --> 01:04:24,600
Offensive. I will discuss that's
extremely offensive, extremely

1096
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,710
offensive. And it's on PBS of
all things. Unbelievable. Oh,

1097
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:31,560
yeah. And also there. Now, if
you wash your car in Port

1098
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,800
Angeles on the street, you can
be fined $1,000, because the

1099
01:04:34,830 --> 01:04:37,830
federal government will not let
you wash your car anymore. If

1100
01:04:37,830 --> 01:04:39,210
it's going to go into the sewer.

1101
01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:43,740
And that is in the state of
Cascadia. Yes, but

1102
01:04:43,740 --> 01:04:45,900
this is and they always say no,
no, no, it's the government

1103
01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:48,480
edict. The government wants to
water rights. They want to make

1104
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:49,110
it clear that you can't

1105
01:04:49,140 --> 01:04:51,930
Well they own the water.
Remember, we they pass the bill.

1106
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,390
The government owns all the
water, it's their water. It's

1107
01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:58,020
not your water to expend whoever
you wish. It's their water.

1108
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,810
So we'll talk about done next
time.

1109
01:05:01,890 --> 01:05:06,450
And next time, we'll come very
soon. Until then, coming to you

1110
01:05:06,450 --> 01:05:10,170
from the crappiest bandwidth
corporate apartment in San

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01:05:10,170 --> 01:05:13,350
Francisco Gitmo nation West. My
name is Adam curry

1112
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,730
and sitting on fibre up here in
the Pacific Northwest. Gitmo

1113
01:05:17,730 --> 01:05:21,030
nation Pacific Northwest as it
were. I'm John C. Dvorak.

1114
01:05:21,150 --> 01:05:24,450
We'll talk again on Thursday
right here on no agenda.

