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podcasting 2.0 For April
29 2020, to Episode 83. This

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week we're pushing paper. That's
right. Sometimes you get one of

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those admin weeks. Don't worry,
we'll bore you with that.

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Welcome to podcasting. 2.0 The
official board meeting of

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podcasting 2.0 we discuss
everything happening with the

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podcasting namespace podcast.
index.org And of course, there's

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a lot going on to podcast index
dot social. I'm Adam curry here

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in the heart of the Texas Hill
Country and in Alabama. He's a

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guy with a motorcycle for sale
on Ebay, my friend on the other

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end, ladies and gentlemen, Mr.
Dave Jones.

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It's a parks bike.

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Six fixer upper, mild fixer

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upper, the entire front end, the
front half. If you have a front

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half, I have a backcast Oh my

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goodness. Dave. How is Grant
doing? How's it easy? Okay.

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Yeah, he got he's doing good.
No. Pain, pain management

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completely under control. He's
good. He's only on Tylenol.

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Oh, that's very, very quick,
actually.

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Yeah, that the dogs were pretty,
pretty pleased about that.

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Because they like, you know, I
was terrified. Yeah, I watched

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you

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were thinking of opioids. Yeah.
As you watch dope sick. You like

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holy crap. Yeah. Very good.

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Yeah, you watch dope sick, and
then you go to the hospital. And

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everybody at the hospital gives
you the on a one to 10 Tell me

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what your pain is. And I'm like,

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right, so they have the little
chart with the smiley faces in

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there. Oh, man. Isn't that sick?

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It is. It is. I mean, like, once
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you so paranoid. Yeah.

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But you're a great dad. So he's
safe.

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Yeah, even in his worst pain. I
just gave him Tylenol. No, I

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didn't do

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and it took here. Come on, let's
be honest about that. Boy, yeah.

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You are listening, by the way to
two very tired men right now in

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case you're just tuning into
podcasting. 2.0 Episode 83. Is

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Well, I mean, you're tired man.
Because you've been you know,

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just been through a lot in the
past two weeks with your with

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your kids accident. And it was
the busiest time to time. We all

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know leave Dave alone is when
his kid gets an accident, which

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of course will never be
forgiven. No, ever, ever AM. And

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then I record. Sorry. So on your
permanent record, permanent

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record, yes. And I was often in
New York for my dad's internment

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and a family reunion. And now,
it's really really fun. But um,

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you know, a lot of energy just
being in New York by itself.

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ah, so tell me tell me about New
York. I mean, so it was. I've

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never been really? Yeah, I've
never been to New York been at

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the state at all. So do you.
When was the last time you had

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been to armant

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the last time I was in Armonk,
wow. A long time ago? Probably a

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good eight years ago. And Armand
is, you know, north of New York

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City. It's kind of Westchester,
Connecticut, right. You could

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probably you in fact, you drive
two minutes, you're in

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Connecticut. Okay. And that's
where the homestead is that my

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family has lived in since 1929.
And my uncle still lives there.

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His his wife passed away about
six, seven weeks ago. The middle

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Patton cemetery is where
everyone's buried. You know,

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it's it's a real thing in the
curry clan. Sorry, wing. Yeah.

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Yes, exactly. Exactly. And that
was great. Because my cousins

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came in and of course, my
sisters came in from Holland

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from Italy. Christina came in
from Holland. She actually came

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back with us to Texas. She's
here until Monday, just to Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Because she hadn't
been out here. And I haven't

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seen her for 10 months since her
birthday. So it's, yeah, it's

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the last time she was in the
States. Oh,

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it was, huh. I would say good
four years ago. And her

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boyfriend could not come for
this server. Well, I would say

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almost fiance, because, you
know, he got the first. The

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first vaccination starts to
develop myocarditis. He's like,

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No, I'm gonna do that. Oh, yeah,
he stopped right away. And of

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course,

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is when he falls into the
category of fucky

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fucky fucky. Very much. You're
not allowed in the country.

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That's that's the category he
fits into. Yeah. So anyway, so

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that, you know, it's just been
busy. And then coming back in,

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you know, we're, we're, we've
had some administrative changes.

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So for a whole bunch of reasons
that are boring. I'm opening

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like a bank account here in
Texas. moving some of the LLC

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stuff over here, and I have no
business doing this.

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You have as much Business
opening bank accounts and do an

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LLC stuff as I do writing Terms
of Service. Privacy Policy.

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Exactly. But it I love it
because I know why we're doing

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it. It's all good. But it's
actually I have someone lined up

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who wants to help us, Danny,
who's the no agenda producer.

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And, you know, I had a chat with
him. We had some email, we

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talked on the phone. And, you
know, he's, he's, I think he's,

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I gave him a podcast index on
social invite. And he's

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committed to definitely helping
us out, you know, through this

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transition, get everything set
up. But I've just like, you

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know, I would this was already
underway, and I thought it was

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already done. But now I need a
certificate from the state of

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Texas. And it's all this, all
this stuff. But anyway, I'm

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really excited about Danny
coming to help us win. I think

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that his nickname will be debit
card. Danny, was my was my. Now,

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you indeed, you know, since I
got back, it's like, oh, here's

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some terms of service and like
to do to have a lawyer look at

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it. You're like, not couldn't
look at it. That's he's a

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lawyer.

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He's the podcast logging

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lawyers. That sounds good to me.
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it said that, you know, I knew,
here's, here's the way this

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thinking goes. This was just me
cutting it off, like, go ahead

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and get into the meat of it
before it started. Right. So

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what I did was, I thought, Okay,
let's see, if we write a privacy

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policy, and then put it out
there. Cridland is immediately

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going to look at it and pick it
apart. So I'm gonna send it to

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him ahead of time. Yes. And
saving the Safe, safe one step.

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I'm all for perfect, perfect,
and he won't criticize his own

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work. So if he rewrote half of
it, I'm like, Hey, we're good

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right now, but I think it turned
out great. I appreciate what he

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did. Because he, he expanded, he
expanded it to cover some things

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that I had not thought of, and
then did, like, made it made it

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better for the EU ish, right.
And all that, I think, I think

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we're in good shape.

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Excellent, by the way. So I
spent a lot of time getting

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everything set up for this show.
So we're live, I did the

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pending, the pending tag in vice
versa, sovereign feeds is kick

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ass. The stuff that Steven B is
doing improving this interface

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is really I mean, he's just
doing iteration through

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iteration and making the
experience better smarter. And

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it's really good because I am
that guy. Cool. screw up

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everything. So I you know, I did
the pending tag for our for our

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live item tags show that we're
live. And so I know I got the

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time, right? I change the
episode numbers or change the

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date, and I publish it and then
of course, like, oh, it's still

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pending or no, it's still it's
ended. You didn't hit pending.

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Okay, hit pending, to go through
it again. Upload the feed. Okay,

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hit the pod ping. We're good.
Oh, it's the wrong date. It's

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like March 20. Okay. Set it for
today. Get it all set. I got the

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PM. So Okay, finally, it's all
good to go. We're good. But it's

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cool because now you can see how
an idiot can still mess up the

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best interface or the or you
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So I'm just really making sure
the Steven knows everything I do

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wrong because you have to stop.
I mean, I'm a danger to myself.

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It's so easy. It's so easy to
mess it up. It really is. And

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then I also added the boost bot
to the live value block. Have

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you followed the boost bot?

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I had no idea what the boost but
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didn't know what it was either.
Yeah, so I see this on the on

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the mastodon. You add the boost
bot to it with 1% split to your

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live item tag. Your lot your
live item. Value block. And in

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anything over 100 sets. It I
think it I think it shows up in

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a chat room. I don't know if it
shows up in our chat room. But

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it also shoots it out on
mastodon.

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Yes. It's all I can go do it
now.

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Yeah, it shouldn't be it should
be live. I mean as long I mean,

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I pause here so as you say d3
Live. Now do you see the boost

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bot in the value block? Can you
see it? What are you using cast

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thematic?

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No, Nanda now I'm using curator
Castro.

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So should be in there.

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If I click on 83 Live, oh, if I
hit play on this, I'm going to

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like feedback myself. That's not
gonna. Not gonna be good. Do it?

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Do it. I'm gonna do it. Do it.

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Do it. Do it.

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Boost one. Do I have 1000 SATs
in my career? I guess. Surely I

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do. Oh, I'm not logged in. I'm
going to do this. I'm going to

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do this at some point during the
show. Okay, so this So this is

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just boost the show and it comes
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Yeah, it goes live into a chat
room not sure where it's in the

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chat room made Minebea I don't
know what Chat Room button

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because there's new I'm just
like, I'd read through the

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documentation like Okay, I just
put this in and we'll see where

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it goes. Apparently it's also
boosting on Mastodon so if

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people are in the now people are
in the podcasting 2.0 Chat.

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Oh, I see it. I see it on bass.
Yeah, see it on the mastodon? Is

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that now is that coming from? No
agenda social.

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Let me see. Oh, wait, there you
go. Servo booster 2033 Looks

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like it has two links, podcasts
index.org. And that's the shores

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feed and it links links to the
Yeah. Well, that's interesting

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linking to the RSS feed and
that's from boost CLI. Okay,

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and it says and there's another
one through says metus boosted

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with 1000s SASL via curio caster
second this did it wow

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this is running with scissors to
the extreme this is running with

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garden shears right now. I love
it this is so cool.

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Very good wow okay, so I know

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I gotta Wow out of Dave
everybody wow,

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I knew that these things were
under development all these

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different connectors for
everything but I haven't seen

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them necessarily in real the
last time I saw one little

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running live was on the live
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Oh no, this is ongoing effort.
These people out of control.

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They are I'm glad I found it.
You know I saw Steven B's like

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oh a boost bodice cooling boost
bot What's this? What does this

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use but you speak of

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he say boost but you're gonna
get some you're gonna get some

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attention. Yeah, of course. It
was like

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the only boost bot I know is
boost boost. That's my boost

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bot. That's the only one

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I want to do it now. They're
gonna do it for me. Well, this

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is only the live item though,
right?

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Yeah, but if you hit it Yeah,
yeah. So it has to be curio

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caster. I think you're right.
Yeah, it's

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not gonna show up and no, it
won't show up.

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So where is everybody? Where's
everybody and getting in on the

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fun? Hello, Roy corduroy. Hello,
Roy. What are you doing Roy? Get

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on this live item stuff Roy he
was supposed to have a dedicated

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person who was getting

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who who does what does the most
so far is caught in a loop. I

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was trying to do this for so
what what other? What other app

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in your opinion is the most
poised or primed for alive

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support?

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Well, it would be very
disappointing if a fountain

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didn't hop on the ship right
away. I mean, these those guys

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are way ahead of stuff right
now. And Oscar's out of control

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they have the hero I got the
live with the beat being able to

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I guess easily add your
listeners blocks to the value

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add everyone gets a wallet. Like
oh my god, can we get to no

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agenda artists to get one of
these so I can just add them per

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episode. You know, thanks for
doing the art. Here's here's

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some stats for here's just
split.

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So I want to know how this
works. So that means anybody can

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just show show up and enable
their walk. Oh, okay. So as I

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see what happened. So as long as
you have a fountain account, you

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have a wallet.

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And the Yes, exact hatching
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be using the lightning address
theme, you know, where you can

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attach like an email address
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address? Oh, yeah,

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I don't know about I haven't I
haven't actually looked at it. I

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just saw the announcement and I
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I got a busy life. Dave. I have
things to do here. Well, let me

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just presumed it worked.

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I'm sure you're right. I want to
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know I'm gonna get to Kevin
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yeah. Kiss Oh, show not only is
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not hip to sovereign feed
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different features. And I'm even
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metadata stuff that no one ever
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that stuff is just stuck in time
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anyway, let me just give it a
quick review. So nice. And also,

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you know, what's also David
normal hypercare tree all of a

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sudden, David Norman. Do he has
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then boom, there's a new version
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Yeah, hyper Kitchen Studio 2.0.
Yeah, nice. It looks like an

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eight bit Marvel. Yeah, that
looks so do you said drag has

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been testing it? Yeah. What is
the what is the killer feature

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of hyper captured Studio 2.0?

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Dave, I have no idea drag is
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that drag is our expert. I have
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All I do is I don't have metal
in his business.

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No way. I but I don't have I
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your studio to set up the first
kind of fake chapter. But it's

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not 2.0. So I'm not in the club.
I have not been given access to

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2.0. I am extremely curious
about the what does he call it

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like magic chapters or auto
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of AI stuff. And I know dreadd
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as well. This isn't these are
incredible development. We need

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a PR team.

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Oh, I thought we already had
one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Daniel J.

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Lewis. I thought that was

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Daniel J. Lewis. Love that guy.
Alright, let me see.

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So here it is. Is most awesome
underneath stuff license? Some

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platform changes like flat. No.
Jas, manual deployments. Okay,

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so he's doing some some sort of
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says I've also added a player in
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autofill the time marker as Adam
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I'm glad I suggested that. I
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You don't remember what you
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time marker? Uh, huh. Says

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I really don't remember.

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Yeah, there's a player. I'm
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There's a player in the chapter
editor. Hmm.

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Right. I Yeah. Okay, both just
UI stuff. But if drab is working

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with it, dribs gonna get it
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And he said, I mentioned to him
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location functionality. So you
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he said, Yes. To this on his
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the first the first tool that
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take advantage of location
location. Yeah.

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Because we talked about that for
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like a, you know, maybe you're
doing a podcast about a

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particular like a war or
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pick a war, any war, there's
plenty. Or you want

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and, you know, you want to
pinpoint this episode, we're

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excuse me this, this part of the
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20. You were talking about
Armani. Armani. Yeah. Maha

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Marma. And then the next. You
know, few minutes you're talking

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about? New Jersey?

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Exactly. That's the way that's
really the way it should be

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used. That's fantastic. Again,
those maps out FM guys, they're

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circling around when we give no
love, because I don't understand

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any of it.

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Well, am I wrong? cred? Listen,
he was on their board or

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something. What?

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Yeah. Oh, man. Guys everywhere.

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Unless I'm nuts. I mean, I think
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shouldn't be conditioned. Bring
them into the fold

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here. Because the guy keeps
popping up saying, hey, here I

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am. Interesting. You think James
would do that? Let me see. Well,

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that's just so you know, what
really is there's too much going

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on, and can't keep up with it.
And you. You basically been

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spending the week catching up,
right? Yeah, right. We're

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excited to introduce those
tickets. We're excited to

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introduce to industry leaders as
our new advisors, James

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Kirtland, editor of the Daily
pod news and EVO Tara, co author

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of podcasting for dummies.

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They're both pals of the pod.
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they will tell us what to do
powers of the pod. Tell us what

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to advise advise someone on
something perfect.

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We're at your disposal.

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All right. I'm sorry. I
interrupted you. You catching up

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on everything.

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Did you interrupt me? Oh, yeah,
I guess you do. Well, yeah.

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Yeah, just catching up on
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100 Something emails to catch up
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I'm getting close. But I had a
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like, just me know, a my feeds
messed up, hey, this, right,

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good, hey, blah, blah, blah,
just a bunch of that kind of

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jazz. But then there was a few
things. I talked to a hosting

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company this week about
potentially doing some

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integration with us and do an
auto submit. It was interesting

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conversation because we were
talking about like terms of

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service that that's what got me
on the terms of service privacy

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policy. Okay, and for the record
If are all that stuff, Terms of

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Service privacy policy, and
everything is on GitHub. Now,

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there's a repo called legal UI.
So if you go to the

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github.com/pockets, index Dash
org, and go to legal, there's

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our Privacy Policy and Terms of
Service, I'm going to put it

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there and just link to the stuff
there. From our website, it's

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easier to edit. On so

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our terms of service may change
from time to time,

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it will, it may, and we will
alert you if

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we want to alert you, we don't
have to alert you.

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My goal is to never email
anybody ever for any reason.

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So a new podcast host that would
be auto submitting, when that

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just be a pod ping.

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We'll see. Okay, so that's what
I was gonna say thank you. Z, is

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we talked about it for a little
while, and they were, they were

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telling me well, you know, we
were looking at the terms and,

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you know, if we're, if you just
find our feeds and suck a man,

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you know, that's, that's fine.
That's one thing. But if we

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actively push to you, we need to
review your terms and make sure

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that everything's kosher with
legal and yeah, and, you know,

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it's like, Okay, it's good. I
mean, it's fine. Makes sense.

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we, we, we retain James
Cridland, so we're fine. No

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problem.

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Yes, that's right. on retainer,
and the so then a little bit

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through, I was like, Well, you
know, I mean, really, an easier

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thing to do is just send a pod
pain. If you do that every time,

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then we we get every feed, it's
just like an auto submit. And

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everybody else gets it, too.

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Yeah, everybody wins. Yeah. And
they say yes.

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They said, We're gonna push for
that. So. Uh huh.

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We have higher ups to convince.

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I think so more legal? I don't
know. I don't know how that

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stuff works. I was there's
always higher ups to convince

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unless you're us, and there's
only two of

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us, right? We are the highest,
the bucks, the buck stops here.

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Yeah. So I mean, in a regular
business that has meetings, I'm

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assuming there's higher ups. But
it's cool, though, because that

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worked out perfectly like
because we were thinking, you've

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been thinking the whole time.
Okay, well, this kills two birds

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with one stone. And then you
really don't have to worry about

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Terms of Service, right?

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You're just telling the world
hey, we're out here and

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everybody else can pick it up.
And that's exactly the same

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thing, as you know, as someone
else ingesting I agree.

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Yeah. I mean, like, you're just
throwing it out there. And then

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whoever, it's like, the, you
know, it's like, well, you know,

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I'm not giving this to you. But
I'm just gonna leave it right

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here on the coffee table. And if
you happen to find if

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you see it by any chance, just
pick it up, you know, yeah,

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ingest that. It's good.

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Excellent. So, yeah. Anyway,
that's, that's, that was a good

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conversation. And that's, I'm
going to get another couple of

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people to talk to you this next
week as well on similar things.

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So there's a lot of, it's funny,
it's funny how this thing goes

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through phases where you have
like, a lot of DEV work. And

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then for a little while, you
have a bunch of admin stuff. And

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then for a little while, you
have a bunch of like, talking to

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people and then it goes back to
the desk. It goes through these

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like cycles. Sure, sure. I think
I think you dev a lot and you

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code a lot and all that kind of
stuff. pleat. If I ever say dev

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as a verb began, please yeah,
but

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I think I was Devon the other
day, you know, thinking of you.

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Like, Oh, I love definitely
think of Dave

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That's one step away from
calling a calling your position

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that you're recruiting for a
ninja.

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Right big superstar. Superstar.

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Super. Customer Support. Sherpa.

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Oh, goodness. Well, I do like
customer support. No Customer

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Success representative. Doesn't
bus that bus? I love that.

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Customer Success consultant.
How're you doing? It is very

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good.

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Yeah, so what we get there? I
mean, there's a bunch of yes

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budget, that kind of stuff going
on bunch of just just talking in

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typing,

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which is good. And we you know,
there's a dizzy conversation

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which, you know, we started a
few episodes ago, which kind of

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of course Daniel J. Lewis
brought it back in typical

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fashion. Hey, are we calling
this thing podcast standard?

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Now? What is that all about? And
this sparked off a great

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conversation which I gladly
remove myself from just

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watching. Of course, just
watching this like, Okay,

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where's this going? And it's
kind of interesting, because I I

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really thought that kind of
separating the podcast namespace

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and giving it its own name is
what was desired.

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But not only not know now,

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podcasting 2.0 seems to be a
very important brand to

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everybody. Or maybe maybe I'm,
maybe I'm not reading it right.

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But it's been really interesting
to see this and, and to a

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certain degree, I'm also looking
at this, like, hey, was there

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like 10 years of this, that
people just talking about this

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stuff? Because, you know,
meanwhile, there's an actual

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namespace and everything's ready
to go, how do we get it out to

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people? You know, what is the
priority? Isn't it to get as

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many posts as possible to at
least adopt one feature? Because

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once they include the namespace,
then, you know, then it's,

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you've already gotten over such
a big hump. Now,

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you know, this goes back to the
old to sort of my old adage,

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when people start arguing about
thing about things. It's time to

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stop talking and just go build
something. Yeah. And I think it

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is, I was looking earlier, I was
actually grabbing a copy. And

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daughter is doing a report for
school on Ukraine. And I was

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grabbing a copy of calls out the
causality episode on Chernobyl

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for her. Uh huh. And I'm looking
at, I'm looking at looking at

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John 2g site. And he has up
there this big badge on his

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website, this says, podcast into
one a certified Oh, nice, and

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it's beautiful. And I thought,
you know, maybe we're, maybe we

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don't worry, maybe we don't
rebrand things, maybe, maybe,

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maybe it's good enough as it is.
I mean, like, it's, it's a

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pretty little badge, and it
makes sense. And I don't know,

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um, you know, it'd be, there's
buildings.

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So just viewing it from an and I
just want to state my position.

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I am happy to have withdrawn
from the branding, marketing,

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what points to where
conversation. Because first of

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all, I'm way too invested in how
we started to, and I read, I

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recognize this for me,
podcasting. 2.0, as we started,

437
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was the independent index, which
you cannot get kicked off of

438
00:27:37,620 --> 00:27:42,000
what you know, with an open API
for any app developer to create

439
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,330
whatever experience they want,
and display whatever they want,

440
00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:48,990
if they don't want to show a
podcast Fine with me, and the

441
00:27:48,990 --> 00:27:53,010
value for value streaming
payments. That to me was

442
00:27:53,010 --> 00:27:58,890
podcasting. 2.0 now recognizing
the polarizing statements we had

443
00:27:58,890 --> 00:28:03,090
in the beginning of freedom of
speech, etc, etc, understanding

444
00:28:03,090 --> 00:28:06,270
that completely, we even soften
that, and we, we've changed some

445
00:28:06,270 --> 00:28:09,300
of our messaging, but we
realized that podcast index.org

446
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:12,660
is not should not really be a
destination, per se, other than

447
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,800
what is it and so, you know, and
Daniel J. Lewis has put together

448
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:22,740
some very good beginning have
some some ways to, to split

449
00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:27,240
stuff out. But maybe all of that
is wrong, maybe it is all

450
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,980
podcasting. 2.0 and podcasting,
2.0 the namespace with all the

451
00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:36,360
features is podcasting. 2.0. For
me, podcasting. 2.0 is, hey, you

452
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:41,610
can you can't get canceled and
your money can't get canceled.

453
00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:46,170
And arguably, that's brought
over 6000 people to the

454
00:28:46,170 --> 00:28:48,780
namespace because once you have
that you have the namespace,

455
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,320
technically. And you know, you
understand that you need a

456
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,710
different app. And these apps
have chapters, and they have all

457
00:28:55,710 --> 00:28:59,460
the features. So you know, but
that's maybe just one on ramp.

458
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,940
And maybe it's not wrong to have
podcasts in 2.0 in all different

459
00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:03,600
places.

460
00:29:05,250 --> 00:29:08,310
It's it's hard for me to have
opinions on these things,

461
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:14,910
because I have a sort of a fiery
intense hatred of discussions

462
00:29:14,910 --> 00:29:18,330
about what to name things. Uh
huh. It drives me nuts. How

463
00:29:18,330 --> 00:29:19,530
did you come up with Grant?

464
00:29:21,660 --> 00:29:25,530
I have a friend named named
Chris is the first thing I would

465
00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:32,610
have searched for. Like what?
You know, I can't I just can't

466
00:29:33,150 --> 00:29:37,260
talk about those things for long
periods of time. I'm like, Okay,

467
00:29:37,290 --> 00:29:40,170
that's good. Let's go with that.
So I don't know, I'm just not

468
00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:40,620
the best guy

469
00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:44,370
to throw up. And ultimately, the
push and pull has to come from

470
00:29:44,370 --> 00:29:47,730
the hosting companies and from
the apps. That's where it has to

471
00:29:47,730 --> 00:29:52,320
come from, you know, and, of
course, you know, they have

472
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,100
they've taken a different path.
But fountain is doing a great

473
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:59,640
job at promoting the features
they have. And I'm seeing more

474
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,490
and more seeing companies
promoting features very well.

475
00:30:02,670 --> 00:30:07,380
But I'm also seeing sovereign
feeds promoting, you know,

476
00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:10,770
podcasting 2.0 in their own way.
So maybe it doesn't have to be a

477
00:30:10,770 --> 00:30:15,180
centralized, you know, thing
that is exactly this. You know,

478
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:20,460
I don't know it, it feels like
it's all kind of pushing along

479
00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:24,930
in some odd way. But once people
will go to look to host

480
00:30:24,930 --> 00:30:27,390
something, or if they have an
existing podcast host and host

481
00:30:27,390 --> 00:30:29,490
says, Oh, look at all these
features we have. And these are

482
00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:35,550
the apps you know, I think the
podcasting is a slow grower,

483
00:30:35,550 --> 00:30:39,000
this stuff takes years and years
and years. That's the

484
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,870
experience.

485
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:42,510
I don't know that you have and
I'm happy to let everybody else

486
00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:42,930
figure this.

487
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,490
Exactly. That's what I'm saying
is like, It's fine with me, I'm

488
00:30:47,490 --> 00:30:50,610
going to my value for value
manifesto, which is not done by

489
00:30:50,610 --> 00:30:54,480
a longshot, but I'm working on
it. And and that's how I'm

490
00:30:54,510 --> 00:30:57,780
that's where I'm gonna push
people to get into podcasting.

491
00:30:57,780 --> 00:31:01,170
2.0 apps is through that. But
it's it doesn't mean it's

492
00:31:01,170 --> 00:31:05,880
mutually exclusive from hyper
capture, promoting podcasting.

493
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,180
2.0 was, you know, with location
and chapters, location and all

494
00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:09,930
the other stuff.

495
00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:13,830
I think the biggest the biggest
thing I've heard about

496
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:17,520
podcasting 2.0 as a brand, it's
I'm just trusting, you know,

497
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:20,040
Daniel J. Lewis is the brand.
He's the brand manager.

498
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,200
Oh, wow. You just want to make
him a VP.

499
00:31:25,710 --> 00:31:27,840
VP. Okay, these done. VP,

500
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:31,230
SVP, SVP, SVP? Oh, that's

501
00:31:31,230 --> 00:31:33,870
right. You get some calls from a
SVP because you don't want to

502
00:31:33,870 --> 00:31:34,320
pay him more

503
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,280
correct. no increase in salary,
your senior vice president now.

504
00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:41,760
That's right. And you get you
get you get three weeks vacation

505
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,950
a year so to easily it. So as
brand manager, he's always said,

506
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:49,530
Well, you know, podcasts and
tempo is too difficult for

507
00:31:49,530 --> 00:31:53,100
search to search for like, yeah,
yeah, the SEO juice is all

508
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:57,810
screwed up, of course. And that
makes it makes sense to me.

509
00:31:58,050 --> 00:31:58,620
Totally.

510
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,360
Though, it's all messed up. But
somehow it's still working and

511
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,320
people are flocking towards it.
So for me, it's like, when I go

512
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,930
on shows is typically to talk
about the value for value

513
00:32:09,930 --> 00:32:15,720
aspect. And it's bringing people
to to the new to podcasting. 2.0

514
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,320
is bringing people to the new
apps is bringing people to the

515
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,530
hosting companies. So that's my
way of doing it. I don't think

516
00:32:22,530 --> 00:32:25,830
there's I don't think there has
to be one way or the other. I

517
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:28,290
don't think so either. Now, I
feel really good about it. And

518
00:32:28,290 --> 00:32:30,990
yes, key back around.

519
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:35,550
Modern is very postmodern to
say, podcasting to pornos,

520
00:32:35,550 --> 00:32:41,790
whatever it means to you know,
maybe the Gen Z maybe they liked

521
00:32:41,790 --> 00:32:42,360
that kind of talk.

522
00:32:43,980 --> 00:32:49,170
I know it's gonna come down to
podcasters using it asking their

523
00:32:49,170 --> 00:32:52,080
audience to use it. That's just
just what it takes. In

524
00:32:52,080 --> 00:33:00,960
podcasting. It's a grower not a
shower I have to give C dubs

525
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,290
credit for that see, this is the
beauty of doing a live a live

526
00:33:04,290 --> 00:33:07,320
podcast you get you get these
one liners from people in the

527
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,450
chat who like who are much
smarter than we are.

528
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:21,540
So I agree with takes me off my
game. Sorry. I agree with with

529
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,790
Dvorak though, like if we're
both looking at the same chat

530
00:33:26,790 --> 00:33:30,150
room, it's it's uh, you know, we
step we step on each other's

531
00:33:30,150 --> 00:33:33,510
curves needed. We needed Dave
chat room and Adam. Correct.

532
00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:38,820
Correct. So we need we need to
split split this bad boy.

533
00:33:38,940 --> 00:33:43,020
Well, yes, yes, that's true. I
mean, for me, chat room is

534
00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:45,690
something in my peripheral
vision that I'm reading without

535
00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,840
ever looking at it. You know,
it's like, somehow because I

536
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,830
just the way I have it set up,
like, oh, okay, I see that. I'll

537
00:33:52,830 --> 00:33:55,680
catch stuff on the corner of my
eye even noticed my brain is

538
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,880
processing it after years and
years and years of doing it. But

539
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,600
most for most people, it
distracts distraction.

540
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,260
You got a chip, you just got a
chip right in your head goes

541
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,010
straight, isn't it?

542
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,590
Well, it's all I do. Dave, I
don't have any other talents.

543
00:34:11,220 --> 00:34:15,570
Give me that. Give me that.
That's the talent I have. So I'm

544
00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:19,800
super happy though. stuff is
really working well. Yeah,

545
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,950
always. Yeah. But I feel a
little bit out of the out of the

546
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:27,810
promotional loop. But man, I
did. What Bitcoin did was the

547
00:34:28,170 --> 00:34:28,770
Peter

548
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,670
had not had. That's been the
weirdest part. Okay. Sorry to

549
00:34:35,670 --> 00:34:38,250
interrupt. That's been the
weirdest part of the last two

550
00:34:38,250 --> 00:34:42,390
weeks for me. I'm a heavy
podcast listener. I listened to

551
00:34:42,390 --> 00:34:50,220
probably Gosh, 10 to 12 podcasts
a week. I mean, I listen to a

552
00:34:50,220 --> 00:34:54,960
lot. And the last two weeks.
I've been so hands on with my

553
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,550
son and everything that I've
really not. I've not listened to

554
00:34:59,550 --> 00:35:05,160
maybe to three episodes of an I
feel like I feel like I've just

555
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,500
completely out of it. Like I
haven't listened to that show

556
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:11,880
that you were on, ever listened
to any of my typical standard

557
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,330
fare of merit mere mortals. And
I'm so out of the loop.

558
00:35:15,359 --> 00:35:17,969
Yeah, I'm also a bit out of the
loop because I was traveling.

559
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:24,329
Did use pod friend to download
shows for the plane ride? That

560
00:35:24,329 --> 00:35:28,109
was cool. That we didn't know. I
didn't know he had that. Yeah,

561
00:35:28,319 --> 00:35:31,919
I'm sorry, not pod friend pod
verse. My mistake. Okay, pod

562
00:35:31,919 --> 00:35:36,749
verse. Yeah, use pod verse. And
that was very enjoyable. So I

563
00:35:36,749 --> 00:35:39,419
did catch, you know, some of
some of the podcasts I listen

564
00:35:39,419 --> 00:35:44,789
to. But I was just today trying
to catch up on pod land.

565
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:46,950
Yep, same, same,

566
00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:50,370
didn't didn't get through the
whole thing. I'm always

567
00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:52,560
listening to see if he mentioned
something that I can get

568
00:35:52,590 --> 00:35:53,490
irritated by.

569
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,510
I mean, that's like when you
scan the chapters and see what

570
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:57,660
oh,

571
00:35:57,660 --> 00:36:02,370
no, no, I'm not like that. I'm
not I do not scan ahead in the

572
00:36:02,370 --> 00:36:07,290
chapters. I won't do it. I like
No, I like now they don't really

573
00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:10,560
do image changes. But I like
seeing image changes when I

574
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,670
don't want them to be spoiled.
No, I don't know i But that's me

575
00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:17,460
as a creator, you know, I don't
want people to listen to 1.2 or

576
00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:20,700
1.5. I want you listen to way I
created it. And I just want you

577
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:22,050
to enjoy the experience.

578
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:29,310
And Alex sent me a note and said
he doesn't think that you can

579
00:36:29,310 --> 00:36:36,060
copyright X and XML. So we were
talking last week about bringing

580
00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:43,740
in the iTunes tags. And he
doesn't think that you can. He

581
00:36:43,740 --> 00:36:45,960
doesn't think they're
copyrightable. So like we should

582
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:49,410
be okay, because he's basing
this on clear.

583
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:54,270
The conversation of iTunes block
versus podcast block.

584
00:36:54,810 --> 00:36:58,590
Yeah, we, uh, yeah. Or just all
the tags in general, really, you

585
00:36:58,590 --> 00:37:03,000
know, if we're gonna bring them
all in. So he's basing this on

586
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:11,070
again, Alex, clearly a lawyer.
So he's basing this on that

587
00:37:11,070 --> 00:37:12,990
Oracle Java lawsuit?

588
00:37:13,529 --> 00:37:17,039
Oh, right. You remember that?
Yeah, of course. Of course. Who

589
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:17,669
doesn't?

590
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,690
Yeah, where it was like, I think
they sued Google because Google

591
00:37:21,690 --> 00:37:26,010
had created Kotlin programming
language that makes it almost

592
00:37:26,010 --> 00:37:34,050
exactly the Java API. And so
then, of course, Oracle lost

593
00:37:34,050 --> 00:37:39,630
that lawsuit. They lost it and a
saying, Well, you know, this, if

594
00:37:39,630 --> 00:37:42,300
they if if you can't even
copyright a programming language

595
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:45,660
API, then you surely can't
copyright. Like an XML

596
00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:49,560
namespace. Right? Because then
you're I mean, you're talking

597
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,770
about you're getting even, like
two levels of abstraction even

598
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:57,210
higher than that. You know,
there again, I don't know. I

599
00:37:57,210 --> 00:38:00,720
mean, we're not lawyers, but
that seems okay to me.

600
00:38:01,410 --> 00:38:05,610
Well, the thing is, the law
doesn't actually matter to

601
00:38:05,610 --> 00:38:08,040
Apple. If they don't like it,
they can sue you anyway, and

602
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,420
make your life difficult. Just
what it is. Right? So there's

603
00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:12,930
that

604
00:38:13,770 --> 00:38:14,790
they wouldn't sue us.

605
00:38:15,090 --> 00:38:19,890
Well, what's there to sue? Go
ahead. Hey, could you please

606
00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:22,620
help us open the bank account so
you can sue us over it?

607
00:38:23,130 --> 00:38:26,850
Oh, that's genius.

608
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,120
Hope I help us open this and
then you can take all our money,

609
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,080
please. By the way, speaking of
big tech, everything has kind of

610
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,620
cooled down now that things are
changing in the world. As we

611
00:38:37,620 --> 00:38:43,050
move towards the great reset.
You know, we have earnings, not

612
00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:46,020
turning out so good supply
chains are hurting companies.

613
00:38:46,020 --> 00:38:50,670
We're seeing stock prices down
revenues down. We're seeing

614
00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:53,910
Facebook going silent on
podcasting. We're seeing YouTube

615
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:59,580
going silent on podcasting.
Hello. So predictable all of it.

616
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,120
There's no money for these for
these companies in podcasting.

617
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,730
There's no money they thought
they could get in on the

618
00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:10,470
clubhouse vibe. clubhouse died.
For all intents and purposes,

619
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:14,340
I'm sure I'm sure it's being
used. But it's not it's not a

620
00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:14,850
thing.

621
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,240
I've got a little bit of
speaking to YouTube. A little

622
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:26,280
bit of some stuff on that so
ever. Spotify brought out their

623
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,950
video stuff this week. Their
proprietary video

624
00:39:28,980 --> 00:39:33,510
has just the you couldn't you
can upload video to Spotify and

625
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:36,600
you can see it only if you have
a Spotify account. Yeah.

626
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,470
Which to me is it's not a policy
useless thing in the whole world

627
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:43,410
does it produce a feed is does
it have an actual feed even even

628
00:39:43,410 --> 00:39:44,730
if it's internal to Spotify?

629
00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:50,670
The way I understand it is that
if it it does have a fee. And if

630
00:39:50,670 --> 00:39:55,680
you listen to it through the
feed, then you don't see the

631
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:01,650
video. Somehow it's only audio
Uh, I could be completely wrong

632
00:40:01,650 --> 00:40:04,890
about that, but I thought that's
the way it is. You only see the

633
00:40:04,890 --> 00:40:09,810
video. Holy crap. Is that you?
Oh, yeah, I got a blue like one

634
00:40:09,810 --> 00:40:10,410
of those Amber

635
00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:12,030
Alert. Oh, we'll read it.

636
00:40:12,990 --> 00:40:15,600
Blue alert. It's a blue. What's
our blue alert?

637
00:40:15,630 --> 00:40:16,530
What's the blue alert?

638
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,690
Oh cop cop Shopska blue alert
Lauderdale County white female

639
00:40:21,690 --> 00:40:25,320
corrections officer Vicki white
missing in line of duty suspect

640
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,110
as a white male inmate Casey
white Casey White is 38 year old

641
00:40:28,110 --> 00:40:30,810
white male six foot six weighing
252 pounds well.

642
00:40:32,910 --> 00:40:36,570
Easy to track. He's moving slow.

643
00:40:38,250 --> 00:40:41,430
with it. He's wearing a hat.
Okay,

644
00:40:41,610 --> 00:40:44,790
you clearly clearly don't have
graphene, we turn that off on

645
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:47,340
our on our open source operating
systems. Dave?

646
00:40:47,970 --> 00:40:51,330
Have you been in like an airport
or a coffee shop or something

647
00:40:51,330 --> 00:40:52,500
when everybody's goes off?

648
00:40:52,530 --> 00:40:57,390
Hilarious. It's hilarious. It's
all different. Yes. Very

649
00:40:57,390 --> 00:41:00,990
disturbing. It gives you it's
like a disaster movie vibe that

650
00:41:00,990 --> 00:41:03,270
I don't enjoy at all at all.

651
00:41:03,390 --> 00:41:07,890
Set total Scott. Okay, so we're
talking about we're talking

652
00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:11,280
about Spotify? Yes. Because
video. Yeah, I don't know. But I

653
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,260
mean, this sort of fits into
this whole I mean, clearly they

654
00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:19,650
want to be you too. They want to
take try to make a weird YouTube

655
00:41:19,650 --> 00:41:25,110
push. Yeah, but and as I was,
I've been going back and

656
00:41:25,110 --> 00:41:29,100
listening to a found I found an
old sand like an old storage

657
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,880
area network box. This is from
like, I don't know, 12 years

658
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,780
ago, and it booted up it worked.
Yeah, man, it worked fine. It

659
00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:39,810
was an old Western Digital share
space

660
00:41:39,810 --> 00:41:43,050
make sure you you you look for
any Bitcoin related stuff.

661
00:41:43,050 --> 00:41:45,660
That's always where you find
like some bitcoin. Those things

662
00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:48,990
like a wallet. Yeah, an old
wallet. Exactly. Wow, what's

663
00:41:48,990 --> 00:41:50,400
this? Oh, you

664
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,480
know what? I'm telling you to do
that dad on them telling you

665
00:41:55,470 --> 00:42:00,270
that's a good call actually, I'm
gonna read the new so I was

666
00:42:00,270 --> 00:42:02,880
looking through this thing in
his guest so much old stuff on

667
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,390
it that I had. But there is a
folder in there called lectures.

668
00:42:07,170 --> 00:42:13,830
And I looked through it it's a
bunch of old like, lectures from

669
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,950
the Mises Institute and old
like, religious stuff, like old

670
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:22,590
pastors and sermons and all this
kind of stuff. They used to

671
00:42:22,590 --> 00:42:27,930
listen to all this stuff in
there and I'm find this thing

672
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:34,530
from this like maybe early 90s,
maybe 93. From a guy named James

673
00:42:34,530 --> 00:42:39,690
Boyce. James boys, of course.
Now there's two James boys

674
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:44,010
maybe I don't know James voice.
There's there's like a James

675
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:51,390
Boyce and a James P. Boyce. And
this guy was a preacher. And he

676
00:42:51,390 --> 00:42:54,540
was probably most famous for
doing this old radio show called

677
00:42:54,540 --> 00:43:02,610
the Bible. Gosh, what was it
called, like the Bible study

678
00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:05,580
hour. That's what it was. Bible
study hour. And it was

679
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,070
originally as this guy named
Donald grade Barnhouse. But then

680
00:43:08,070 --> 00:43:13,770
James boys took it up. And
interesting guy, he died. He

681
00:43:13,770 --> 00:43:19,050
died about 10 or 12 years ago of
pancreatic cancer. He had to

682
00:43:19,050 --> 00:43:21,600
show this radio show for a long
time in he's really good

683
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:27,330
speaker. What I had this old
lecture of him talking about the

684
00:43:27,330 --> 00:43:30,600
book, amusing ourselves to death
by Neil post,

685
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:33,690
of course, is fantastic book.
And there's even an updated

686
00:43:33,690 --> 00:43:37,950
version of that, which I think
postman son contributed to. A

687
00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:40,770
really Yeah, it's an updated
version. Yes, a great book

688
00:43:41,370 --> 00:43:44,820
was I started listening to it
while I was doing some work. And

689
00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:48,810
it really reminded me of the
difference. It seemed

690
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:51,630
appropriate for this whole
debate around video and audio,

691
00:43:51,690 --> 00:43:57,930
like video versus audio almost.
In sort of what what's going on

692
00:43:57,930 --> 00:44:00,600
if he's sort of step back from
the podcasting angle,

693
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,070
necessarily, and just think
about it on video versus audio

694
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:13,470
on its own. And he's talking
about he's uses this term as a

695
00:44:13,470 --> 00:44:18,150
ref reference to a speech that
Ted Koppel gave at Duke

696
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:25,020
University, about television.
And he says that he uses this

697
00:44:25,020 --> 00:44:27,720
term that we've been van attire
used

698
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:31,320
as an Vanna White, is in Vanna

699
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,570
White. So if you, you can play
that clip. Yeah. And you

700
00:44:36,570 --> 00:44:42,420
said in the first line, America
has been the sanitized and then

701
00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:44,730
he knew nobody knew what that
meant, because he was coining

702
00:44:44,730 --> 00:44:48,330
the word. So the next line of
the address said that's vanities

703
00:44:48,330 --> 00:44:52,020
as in Vanna White. She is very
popular That program's been on a

704
00:44:52,020 --> 00:44:55,590
long time it makes a lot of
money. And as you know, her her

705
00:44:55,590 --> 00:44:59,760
job. It's not what you would
call demanding Vanna White

706
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,870
stuff. ends on one side of the
game board and the contestants

707
00:45:03,870 --> 00:45:06,660
are calling out letters and the
blocks up, they're represented.

708
00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:10,290
And as they call it out, she
walks across and touches. The

709
00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:13,560
letter was then lights up, if
that's the right letter, and

710
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,020
when she gets over to this side
of the game board, she turns

711
00:45:16,020 --> 00:45:22,470
around like that. And she claps
her hands that's well, called

712
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:26,490
attention to how popular she is.
And then he asked his question,

713
00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:30,810
he said, How can she be so
popular when we don't know

714
00:45:30,810 --> 00:45:33,930
anything about her? And the
reason we don't know anything

715
00:45:33,930 --> 00:45:37,320
about her is that she never says
a word. She doesn't say anything

716
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,620
about herself. And so Ted Koppel
asked the question, Is she a

717
00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:44,970
feminist? Every male chauvinist
dream. And then he answered his

718
00:45:44,970 --> 00:45:47,910
own question. He says, She's
whatever you want her to be

719
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,530
sister, lover, daughter forever.
Those are his own words. If

720
00:45:52,530 --> 00:45:56,400
you're a young girl, and you're
moving into adolescence, and

721
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,560
you're a little bit uncertain
about yourself, I think some of

722
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,140
the model of what you could be,
you know, when you grow up, if

723
00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:04,020
you're unhappy in a marriage,
you might think mistress like

724
00:46:04,020 --> 00:46:06,540
that, or whatever it might be.
And so what can come up with is

725
00:46:06,540 --> 00:46:10,200
saying is that television is
like that. When television

726
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,260
functions as television, it
doesn't function the way we

727
00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:16,320
think it does. We think of the
screen up there pouring out all

728
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,100
this information at us. So we're
better informed, more thoughtful

729
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:22,920
than any people on the play face
of the planet I've ever been. He

730
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,890
said, It doesn't work that way.
What television does is put up

731
00:46:25,890 --> 00:46:30,660
pictures into which we project
our aspirations. And the better

732
00:46:30,660 --> 00:46:33,330
television does that the better
it is more successful. It is.

733
00:46:34,620 --> 00:46:36,180
Wow, that's good.

734
00:46:37,050 --> 00:46:41,130
Yeah, that that was pretty
interesting, pretty interesting

735
00:46:41,130 --> 00:46:44,490
idea that you don't you're not,
he goes on a little bit further,

736
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:49,500
later and talks about just the,
the nature of images versus that

737
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:54,120
he's talking really about the
written word. But this, this got

738
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,710
me thinking about podcasting.
Because, you know, if you think

739
00:46:58,710 --> 00:47:03,750
about the nature of images, like
he said, as you, you're just

740
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:07,710
being shown things in order to
keep you watching, engaging,

741
00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:10,800
engaged, yeah. Was it like that
the you know, the alpha wave, or

742
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,730
whatever of your brain is just
like, it's so hard when there's

743
00:47:14,730 --> 00:47:19,710
video playing in a room to look
away from the video. It's almost

744
00:47:19,710 --> 00:47:24,600
impossible. Sometimes. He's
talking about spoken word,

745
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:28,830
excuse me, not spoken word, but
written word is interact with

746
00:47:28,830 --> 00:47:33,810
your brain in a completely
different way. Yes, and no, go

747
00:47:33,810 --> 00:47:34,110
ahead.

748
00:47:34,170 --> 00:47:36,330
I'm listening. I have something
to say later.

749
00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:45,270
And so podcasting really touches
as close to the written word as

750
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:51,120
possible. It's, to me, it's very
much like almost like oral

751
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,710
tradition. Where you're engaging
with we know there's this

752
00:47:55,710 --> 00:47:58,620
personalization thing that
happens with the spoken word,

753
00:47:58,620 --> 00:48:03,060
and it's in particular
podcasting. Podcasting, fits in

754
00:48:03,060 --> 00:48:09,060
at a societal level, podcasting
fits in what we used to know as

755
00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:15,240
oral tradition. Because yes,
there's radio. And yes, radio a

756
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:18,690
spoken word a lot of times, but
but you can't interact with you

757
00:48:18,690 --> 00:48:22,320
can't stop the radio in this
sort of like, think about what

758
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,990
you just heard and give back.
And that kind of thing. He talks

759
00:48:24,990 --> 00:48:27,660
about that in images versus
Words, Part One.

760
00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:34,140
And what postman is saying is
this. Television does not

761
00:48:34,140 --> 00:48:37,650
communicate by words that
communicates by images. And so

762
00:48:37,650 --> 00:48:40,740
he contrasts the age of
television, with the age of

763
00:48:40,740 --> 00:48:43,800
typography, which has to do with
putting things in tight the

764
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:48,930
words. Now he says words,
operate rationally. In other

765
00:48:48,930 --> 00:48:51,990
words, they encourage thought,
you read a newspaper, you read a

766
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:55,860
book, read an article, there's a
certain distance between you and

767
00:48:55,860 --> 00:49:01,410
the printed page, you have time
to think about it. It encourages

768
00:49:01,410 --> 00:49:04,620
reaction disagree, you think
about why you disagree. If you

769
00:49:04,740 --> 00:49:08,490
agree, you think about why you
agree. It produces a sequence of

770
00:49:08,490 --> 00:49:11,340
thought, conclusions, and so
forth. Television doesn't do

771
00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:15,990
that. What television does, is
throw up a sequence of images,

772
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:19,650
one after the other, in order to
keep you watching that channel.

773
00:49:19,650 --> 00:49:22,980
So you don't switch to another
channel. And so they can sell

774
00:49:22,980 --> 00:49:27,240
commercials. That's the way it
works. And so he says, what

775
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:30,180
essentially happens on
television is entertainment.

776
00:49:30,810 --> 00:49:33,870
That doesn't mean the television
can't, to certain degree, do

777
00:49:33,870 --> 00:49:36,480
other things. And it doesn't
apply, I think, in the same way

778
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,690
to videos, training videos, and
so forth. That's a different

779
00:49:39,690 --> 00:49:44,070
thing. But television as it
functions in society, the sort

780
00:49:44,070 --> 00:49:46,890
of thing people watch is
essentially entertainment. Now,

781
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,920
you say to that, well, so why
what's wrong with entertainment?

782
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,250
The answer, of course, is
nothing. You might as well watch

783
00:49:53,250 --> 00:49:55,680
a movie on television and go to
a theater to see it. It's

784
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,070
cheaper anyway. But what is
wrong with television is that it

785
00:49:59,070 --> 00:50:02,940
pretends to be More than
entertainment. And to the extent

786
00:50:02,940 --> 00:50:06,240
that it puts something serious
on television, it tends to

787
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:10,320
trivialize it and turn it into
entertainment. So postman then

788
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,950
begins to work through different
categories. He talks about news

789
00:50:13,950 --> 00:50:19,290
on television, you know that the
average new segment on network

790
00:50:19,290 --> 00:50:21,540
television, this is stuff out in
New York, you know where you're

791
00:50:21,540 --> 00:50:24,600
supposed to get it and a little
greater depth. And then locally,

792
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:30,480
the average segment on network
television is 45 seconds. What,

793
00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:34,290
how much can you learn in 45
seconds. Furthermore, it's not

794
00:50:34,290 --> 00:50:37,260
just the duration, that's a
problem, it's switching so

795
00:50:37,260 --> 00:50:40,200
quickly to something else, that
you don't get time actually

796
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,110
think about what you have
actually heard, even though it's

797
00:50:43,110 --> 00:50:43,530
short.

798
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:47,730
Alright, this is where typically
I mentioned this once every

799
00:50:47,730 --> 00:50:52,740
year, or once every two years on
no agenda. Put it in the show

800
00:50:52,740 --> 00:50:57,840
notes. It's called the Zen TV
experiment, in the Zen TV

801
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,730
experiment is designed to show
you what is happening to you,

802
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,420
and what you are doing when
you're watching television. And

803
00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:09,600
it is, and you should really do
it this thing, but there's weird

804
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,860
things in there, like, watch the
TV for 20 minutes with the sound

805
00:51:13,860 --> 00:51:17,340
off. And then it's watched the
TV for 20 minutes with only the

806
00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:20,670
sound and no video. And then
it's watched the TV for 20

807
00:51:20,670 --> 00:51:23,970
minutes with no sound and no
video, you know, and then then

808
00:51:23,970 --> 00:51:27,150
it goes into all the techniques
they call it's classified as

809
00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:31,350
technical events, all the things
that that your brain just is

810
00:51:31,350 --> 00:51:34,410
okay with like we're inside,
boom, we're outside. So you

811
00:51:34,410 --> 00:51:37,200
filled in the hole going down
the steps, you know, opening the

812
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,390
doors, all that stuff. And it's
a really try do it at least

813
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:44,550
once. It's good to review it.
You don't have to do all the

814
00:51:44,550 --> 00:51:47,880
exercises. But you get the point
real quick. And you had Holy

815
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,420
crap.

816
00:51:49,050 --> 00:51:50,970
There's a lot is an online
thing.

817
00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:54,780
Yeah, had been pointing to this
for 15 years.

818
00:51:55,259 --> 00:51:56,729
I've never heard you talk about
this.

819
00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:02,940
You don't love my shows? Man. I
don't I don't have the Cintiq.

820
00:52:02,970 --> 00:52:08,010
It's adam.nz, the Zen TV
experiment. How many of you know

821
00:52:08,010 --> 00:52:12,120
how to watch television? It's in
the it's in the show notes for

822
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:19,140
today's episode. I forget who
this guy is. The whole site, he

823
00:52:19,140 --> 00:52:22,410
explains the whole site. So it's
good. Now I want to say

824
00:52:22,410 --> 00:52:25,680
something else before you get to
part two. Yes, sir. I worked

825
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:31,560
with Vanna White in the MTV
days. And a couple of things.

826
00:52:31,950 --> 00:52:38,370
Very smart. Very kind, very
cute, obviously. Although, you

827
00:52:38,370 --> 00:52:44,250
know, I don't want to say and it
doesn't matter. Her manager kind

828
00:52:44,250 --> 00:52:48,780
of a sleazeball. Her agent. He
represented like Playboy Bunnies

829
00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:53,880
and stuff. No. Vanna White
significantly older than I am.

830
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:57,540
And I just remember like, wow,
because I was maybe 30 Something

831
00:52:57,540 --> 00:53:01,920
she was 50 like wow. Because
yeah, pretty Yes. No, we were in

832
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,760
a situation we we connected very
well. You know, like we were

833
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,940
working together on the show.
And she said something very

834
00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:13,020
important she said you know Do
you know why the way everything

835
00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:16,020
works so well on this is we're
talking about Wheel of Fortune,

836
00:53:16,020 --> 00:53:19,830
the Wheel of Fortune syndicated
in you know, 5000 countries, as

837
00:53:19,830 --> 00:53:23,580
everyone knows that everyone has
their own local Vanna White to

838
00:53:23,580 --> 00:53:25,680
know why it works so well. It's
not as well this is Merv

839
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,100
Griffin. He's famous television
producer who created those King

840
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,830
world's entertainment created
the Wheel of Fortune many other

841
00:53:31,830 --> 00:53:35,130
shows like that, including the
Tonight Show was also Merv

842
00:53:35,130 --> 00:53:39,510
Griffin. As she said the secret
that Merv Griffin always applies

843
00:53:39,540 --> 00:53:42,870
people on television are very
successful if they have a big

844
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:45,030
head physically a big head

845
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,270
she has a very big head she's

846
00:53:48,270 --> 00:53:52,980
very tiny. Patsy Jack has a big
head Jay Leno The Tonight Show

847
00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:59,460
big head and that is a big So
exactly what voice is talking

848
00:53:59,460 --> 00:54:05,460
about here? Is this it's so well
known that the visual aspects do

849
00:54:05,460 --> 00:54:08,520
certain things to keep you
engaged. That Merv Griffin

850
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,370
apparently figured out big heads
keep people engaged

851
00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:14,250
Yeah, that

852
00:54:15,150 --> 00:54:18,990
that zero content value but it
works.

853
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,090
What was interesting to me about
this and hearing you talk about

854
00:54:24,090 --> 00:54:30,510
it even even just submits it.
Yes. How much how much YouTube

855
00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:36,330
has taken all of these aspects
and like random not even you not

856
00:54:36,330 --> 00:54:41,550
just YouTube? Tick tock Morson
yes take as turned it up to 11

857
00:54:41,580 --> 00:54:48,030
Yes. Make because you've got
you've got the rapid smash cuts

858
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,990
the the big head thing because
they're always right up in the

859
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:53,640
camera so they're Hey, yes.
Manga

860
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,720
you nailed it. That's exactly
right. Do that and even the even

861
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:00,660
the poster images that promote
the video will Show that you

862
00:55:00,660 --> 00:55:01,020
bet.

863
00:55:02,610 --> 00:55:06,390
And I mean that this, this is
how this is how you become

864
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:10,950
successful in video in the world
of video, which is completely

865
00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:15,180
regular your average audio
podcaster is not prepared for

866
00:55:15,180 --> 00:55:16,890
this in any way whatsoever.

867
00:55:16,890 --> 00:55:20,520
No way. No way. No way. No way.
No, this is this is we're just

868
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,830
now really discovering how all
this stuff works.

869
00:55:23,460 --> 00:55:28,410
And he, I'd say probably bring
home in part two here.

870
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:38,280
When Nixon lost to Kennedy, back
in, in 60. He the wisdom of of

871
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,580
the campaign managers was that
it was because of the televised

872
00:55:41,580 --> 00:55:46,440
debate. And if you can recall
what was said back there, Nixon

873
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,070
came off hard in a cool medium,
and Kennedy came off cool and

874
00:55:50,070 --> 00:55:54,030
the cool medium. So he did
better. They did a survey of

875
00:55:54,030 --> 00:55:57,660
people after that televised
debate. And they learned a lot.

876
00:55:57,690 --> 00:56:01,980
They learned that when they
asked people who had listened to

877
00:56:01,980 --> 00:56:08,070
the debate on radio, by large
percentages, like 60 70%, people

878
00:56:08,070 --> 00:56:11,640
thought that Nixon had won the
debate. And when they surveyed

879
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,450
people who had watched it on
television, by almost the exact

880
00:56:15,450 --> 00:56:18,780
numbers, but the inverse thought
that Kennedy had won the debate,

881
00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:22,020
because he is telling you
something, it's the image that's

882
00:56:22,020 --> 00:56:25,410
communicating, not actually the
content of what's being said.

883
00:56:26,220 --> 00:56:31,980
Exactly. Yeah. And do is that,
you know, is that what, that's

884
00:56:31,980 --> 00:56:35,640
not what most podcasters are
trying to do? That's not what

885
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,740
they're trying to accomplish?
Me. You know, there's, there's

886
00:56:37,740 --> 00:56:40,770
some but I mean, there's most
podcasters are trying to

887
00:56:40,770 --> 00:56:45,330
communicate content in
personalized connection with an

888
00:56:45,330 --> 00:56:48,840
audience most, most podcasters
I'm a traditional podcasters are

889
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:55,620
not burn, they're not going for
just the quick, you low hanging

890
00:56:55,620 --> 00:57:03,150
money fruit approach. And that,
I'd say, I mean, for me, I'll

891
00:57:03,150 --> 00:57:07,920
tell personally, for me, I mean,
for me, this, this show, is an

892
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:13,560
outlet for the things that I
think about during the week. And

893
00:57:13,950 --> 00:57:20,400
that's not something that I'm
going to be able to communicate

894
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,280
in for second, smash cuts.

895
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:30,900
Here's my, my take on this video
podcast, YouTube's you know, we

896
00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:34,080
have people with headphones, and
microphones and talk and stuff.

897
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:38,820
I think it's a, it's just my
feeling, I have no data to back

898
00:57:38,820 --> 00:57:43,590
it up. I don't know, my feeling
is what works well is that it's

899
00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:47,610
highly clickable. So you can so
someone can either link to a

900
00:57:47,610 --> 00:57:51,510
time code or typically like a
Rogen, stuff gets clipped, you

901
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:53,880
know, there's, here's eight
minutes, here's 10 minutes, and

902
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,710
a lot of people watch that. And
that's really relevant. It's

903
00:57:58,710 --> 00:58:01,200
kind of an you know, for eight
minutes watching the videos

904
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,410
like, oh, that's exciting, you
know, I'm looking at the studio,

905
00:58:04,410 --> 00:58:07,710
and, you know, there's a lot of
things that are influencing what

906
00:58:07,710 --> 00:58:10,770
I'm seeing, and it's like memes,
you know, it's the same thing, a

907
00:58:10,770 --> 00:58:14,700
meme can be very, very powerful.
I agree completely with you, to

908
00:58:14,700 --> 00:58:18,870
me, and I've, I've always been a
radio guy, I want to build a

909
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:22,380
vision in your head. So that you
are thinking about where's my

910
00:58:22,380 --> 00:58:25,200
studio when you know, what am I
wearing? What is it dark? Is it

911
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,620
am I wearing green visor? You
know, these kinds of things.

912
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:36,960
And, and, and the I've found
success in building a community

913
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:43,140
of people around every single
show that I do. And that's very

914
00:58:43,140 --> 00:58:49,080
different from having clips
that, you know, suck people in

915
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,510
and they, they're done and
they're gone. And you got a

916
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:55,140
couple of couple of hits for
your video for YouTube views and

917
00:58:55,140 --> 00:58:59,850
your YouTube money. It's just a
different isn't, you know, it's

918
00:58:59,850 --> 00:59:01,200
what people want to do. I know.

919
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,820
Doesn't it ultimately all become
tick tock. I mean, isn't that

920
00:59:05,820 --> 00:59:09,570
where everything? I mean, I
think tick tock? That to me. The

921
00:59:09,570 --> 00:59:14,820
crazy thing about tick tock is
that they they took all of the

922
00:59:14,820 --> 00:59:20,820
obvious things about YouTube and
about social media money making,

923
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,750
and a quick hit and a viral
illness. And they just jumped to

924
00:59:24,750 --> 00:59:25,620
the finish line.

925
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,280
They went through. Yeah,

926
00:59:29,460 --> 00:59:33,030
they're like, you know, screw
it. Let's just jump to the end

927
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:33,810
of this thing. Well,

928
00:59:33,810 --> 00:59:36,390
yeah, they did a couple of very
smart things yet so they they

929
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:39,420
completely programmed it for the
dopamine hit for the laugh for

930
00:59:39,420 --> 00:59:42,630
the joke for the Oh, that's
great. You know, all that stuff.

931
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:50,880
The quick share the quick like
the et cetera. Et Yes, you're

932
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,510
right. They jumped straight to
the finish line. The genius was

933
00:59:54,780 --> 00:59:58,230
licensing the music so everybody
can use the music and do their

934
00:59:58,230 --> 01:00:02,370
dances. No They're different,
whatever the vibe is, you know,

935
01:00:02,370 --> 01:00:06,660
there's the dead the dead animal
who Music There's the

936
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,960
oh my god, the American Kennel
Club.

937
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:12,930
Oh my god, you hear the dead.
It's either the dead dog or the

938
01:00:12,930 --> 01:00:17,070
dead child like, swipe. We're
all Tina and I will sit down.

939
01:00:17,580 --> 01:00:20,670
We'll do one hour a week, maybe.
But she doesn't do tick tock.

940
01:00:20,670 --> 01:00:25,020
She has Instagram reels, which
is mainly repurpose tick tock

941
01:00:25,020 --> 01:00:29,790
content. And it's totally
enjoyable for an hour. We're

942
01:00:29,790 --> 01:00:31,620
sitting there, we're laughing
our asses off and then we're

943
01:00:31,620 --> 01:00:34,380
like, don't we just also we're
like, I'm disgusted with myself.

944
01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:38,250
Me too. But it's all it's, it's
all of the it's all the music is

945
01:00:38,250 --> 01:00:41,010
really genius, too, but it's a
different product. You know,

946
01:00:41,010 --> 01:00:42,390
it's crack. It's a little crack.

947
01:00:43,020 --> 01:00:47,250
Yeah, yeah. And we all know what
crack does. Yeah.

948
01:00:47,580 --> 01:00:48,450
Makes you feel good.

949
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,580
Until it doesn't.

950
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,340
Yeah, exactly. So that's exactly
what it is.

951
01:00:54,750 --> 01:00:56,700
Anyway, just thought just
thoughts on the whole video

952
01:00:56,700 --> 01:00:57,870
thing I don't. That's very

953
01:00:57,870 --> 01:01:01,500
that's I like that. It's a very
deep that we just learned. You

954
01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:05,400
know, this curry in the keeper
podcast. We live in

955
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,800
Fredericksburg. There's 10,000
people that live here. Gillespie

956
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,700
county is bigger. But now we're
under the auspices of Austin and

957
01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:15,330
San Antonio. So we're just
talking about our guy who you

958
01:01:15,330 --> 01:01:18,900
know, helps us with a garden and
you know, Mike, the ex cop who's

959
01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:22,890
building a railing for us you
know, we got Greg the Greg the

960
01:01:22,890 --> 01:01:25,680
welder and we're just talking
about these people. Oh my god

961
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,740
and stuff comes back like the
whole town is listening. Hey,

962
01:01:28,740 --> 01:01:31,500
man, I heard you talk you said
this about that guy. And it's

963
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:31,800
like,

964
01:01:31,950 --> 01:01:34,620
what? On the show? Yeah,

965
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,920
no, no, it's Korean. The keeper
Tina and I just carrying the

966
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,740
keeper here. We're just talking
about shit going on in our life.

967
01:01:40,770 --> 01:01:43,470
You know? And it's like, Well,
someone heard you're talking

968
01:01:43,470 --> 01:01:48,840
about the bubble bus and she's
got the pink limos and it's like

969
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,640
small town but it's really cool
to see what influence a podcast

970
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,200
can have and it's just audio.

971
01:01:55,650 --> 01:01:59,400
Soon carrying the keeper is like
banging mags at local access

972
01:01:59,400 --> 01:01:59,820
radio.

973
01:02:00,150 --> 01:02:03,810
It's like Wayne's World. And
only with with with Ricky and

974
01:02:03,810 --> 01:02:08,550
Lucy. And Tina's like, I see
your celebrity babies. Now as

975
01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:15,090
you watch this hilarious, so you
know that kind of stuff is I

976
01:02:15,090 --> 01:02:18,750
live for that Dave? I live what
we're doing right? I'm happy as

977
01:02:18,750 --> 01:02:23,460
a pig and shit. I love that shit
is working. I love we got more

978
01:02:23,460 --> 01:02:29,280
people coming in and using the
devalue block. I mean, I love

979
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,960
this live stuff. It's crazy. You
know, we're like, okay, stuff is

980
01:02:33,990 --> 01:02:37,440
in it right now. I'm seeing the
boost bot is now posting in the

981
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,100
chat room that just magically
happened, though. I saw I just

982
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:45,510
saw it. Yeah, this this is so
much fun. And you know, I got

983
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:48,450
people chomping at the bit. I
got Moe waiting in the wings.

984
01:02:48,450 --> 01:02:51,330
He's like, I'm ready to go. I'm
ready to go. Can we start

985
01:02:51,930 --> 01:02:56,940
parallel streaming to
podcasting. 2.0. And then he

986
01:02:56,940 --> 01:03:00,510
wants to drop YouTube. Nice.
Yeah, he's never he's never

987
01:03:00,510 --> 01:03:03,600
monetized on YouTubes. And then
we would do an auto podcast to

988
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,890
No, no, he refuses. He refuses?
No. Why? Why? Because he doesn't

989
01:03:07,890 --> 01:03:10,590
he doesn't want to get caught up
in relying on it.

990
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:13,590
Gotcha. Okay, well, that's
perfect. Yeah, and thanks a lot.

991
01:03:13,590 --> 01:03:15,810
And he also was very clear every
time hey, we're just here

992
01:03:15,810 --> 01:03:18,210
temporarily get ready because
we're gonna move over to

993
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,840
podcasting. 2.0 when we have the
comments set up and right now

994
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,420
with this live, this is good.
You know, we got the chat room,

995
01:03:24,420 --> 01:03:28,530
we got the equivalent of the
super chats we got the the boost

996
01:03:28,530 --> 01:03:33,240
bot is spewing messages
everywhere. This is exciting.

997
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,910
Okay, well, let me throw
something at you then. Because

998
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:38,250
I've had this. I had this
thought a couple of weeks ago,

999
01:03:38,250 --> 01:03:45,690
and I had it written down here.
What there's this, you know, the

1000
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,890
all the rage now is the greater
the like social audio green

1001
01:03:49,890 --> 01:03:56,700
room, all this kind of stuff.
And I'm listening to Linux

1002
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:57,420
unplugged.

1003
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,310
They talk about me on the show
now. Oh, do they? Yeah. Because

1004
01:04:02,310 --> 01:04:06,570
I boosted Graham them and said,
Hey, how do you guys check all

1005
01:04:06,570 --> 01:04:08,850
those distros without ruining
all of your show?

1006
01:04:08,850 --> 01:04:11,040
Yeah, yeah. Man, I've

1007
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,490
like those guys are there I'm
part of their community.

1008
01:04:15,030 --> 01:04:18,450
Well, one thing they do is every
now and then, so they have this

1009
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,200
constant. They have this live
they have the live thing. Yeah.

1010
01:04:22,890 --> 01:04:26,700
And every now and then they'll
throw out. They have some sort

1011
01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:33,240
of connection back to the room
where they can say something and

1012
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,790
just like, let somebody else
talk back. Hmm, that sounds

1013
01:04:38,910 --> 01:04:39,720
pretty cool.

1014
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,070
And what are they using? Do we
know?

1015
01:04:41,490 --> 01:04:45,060
I have no idea. I want to find
out but I wonder if that that

1016
01:04:45,060 --> 01:04:49,500
could be part of a different
spec where like, like an open

1017
01:04:49,710 --> 01:04:52,980
net. See, I'm not interested in
the whole Twitter spaces,

1018
01:04:53,310 --> 01:04:56,250
clubhouse, all that kind of
stuff where it's like this big

1019
01:04:56,310 --> 01:04:59,310
where it's essentially just like
a, like a log of dumb Zoom

1020
01:04:59,310 --> 01:05:07,920
meeting. But the ability to say,
you know, hey, C Dubs. What can

1021
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,160
you tell me what you like to ask
a question and then they can

1022
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,540
like talk back for a second and
like, you're like asking them to

1023
01:05:16,020 --> 01:05:20,730
participate for a moment I mean,
you're not you're not turning

1024
01:05:20,730 --> 01:05:24,120
over your show to some to like
20 random strangers but you

1025
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,420
know, you click a button and
then they can they can talk.

1026
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,220
I mean, that sounds kind of what
could

1027
01:05:29,220 --> 01:05:30,270
possibly go wrong.

1028
01:05:30,629 --> 01:05:33,779
Nothing and I think this is
perfectly legitimate.

1029
01:05:34,980 --> 01:05:36,960
Anyway, well that's that's
definitely there's something

1030
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,890
more on the production side more
than I don't know if that's a if

1031
01:05:40,890 --> 01:05:45,180
that's if a namespace thing. I
think it could be I'm open to

1032
01:05:45,180 --> 01:05:45,390
it.

1033
01:05:45,899 --> 01:05:49,589
By the way, that's the thing now
you know, the clubhouse thing is

1034
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,000
my so to talk about this real
quick. So I had another horrible

1035
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,150
crash with the Windows machine
was on the road with no agenda.

1036
01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:59,370
You should have got a new
machine.

1037
01:05:59,430 --> 01:06:06,660
I did get a new machine. Which
one? Same one the Surface Pro

1038
01:06:06,660 --> 01:06:08,400
six. Yeah, surface six Pro.

1039
01:06:08,850 --> 01:06:10,890
Okay, now I'm going to tell you
should get a different machine

1040
01:06:10,890 --> 01:06:11,100
now

1041
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:15,240
this probably I really like it
you know, the fold up everything

1042
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,020
is perfect for on the road. So
but it was just it happens, but

1043
01:06:19,020 --> 01:06:21,330
it was a bad one was blue
screen. You're the new blue

1044
01:06:21,330 --> 01:06:24,600
screen with an extremely
insulting frowny face emoji.

1045
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:30,750
Fuck you, Microsoft. Yes. So
that's so patronizing. When your

1046
01:06:30,750 --> 01:06:34,110
ship just crashed and you give
me a frowny face something went

1047
01:06:34,110 --> 01:06:36,720
wrong. I understand is

1048
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,680
the worst. So much of that dang
loose. We're getting things

1049
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:41,940
ready. hanging loose.

1050
01:06:41,940 --> 01:06:49,050
Yeah. So I post that on Twitter
and no agenda social because,

1051
01:06:49,350 --> 01:06:52,170
you know, I'm down for 15
minutes during live broadcasts,

1052
01:06:52,170 --> 01:06:55,650
like oh, people will get it. Oh,
man. So I'm done with the show.

1053
01:06:55,650 --> 01:07:01,140
And there's all this like, she
uses Unix, Linux. And it just

1054
01:07:01,140 --> 01:07:05,670
went on and on and on. And I'm
like, no, because you can use

1055
01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:08,700
Linux is not compatible with
what I need. And this is the

1056
01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:12,180
only device that does it. That
even the new versions of it

1057
01:07:12,180 --> 01:07:17,130
don't do it right. And it's the
Motu Ultralite MK four. And it

1058
01:07:17,130 --> 01:07:21,240
just went back and like no, it's
always the same. Like no, but

1059
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,320
you could do this if you just
worked perfectly with Elsa.

1060
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,340
Here. Pure pipe pipe message
thing wire. Okay, pipe.

1061
01:07:31,350 --> 01:07:32,880
Because I know the pipe and
right

1062
01:07:32,910 --> 01:07:37,170
I'm been diving down this road.
Now someone eventually shows up.

1063
01:07:37,410 --> 01:07:40,470
I think it might have been Aaron
or from nogen associates. Hey,

1064
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,700
the AVB and I think they
replaced this unit I'd looked at

1065
01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:49,680
it it can do everything I needed
to do it will work over regular

1066
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,340
Wi Fi not with the real problem
is managing it through this

1067
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,690
custom service that runs on
Windows. And it had now as the

1068
01:07:57,690 --> 01:07:59,820
noise gate which is why I always
ignored it because didn't have

1069
01:07:59,820 --> 01:08:02,730
the noise gate. And I oh this is
great. I'm going to order one

1070
01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:05,340
maybe this is the solution and I
put out a bounty by the way. So

1071
01:08:05,370 --> 01:08:08,490
anyone who could make this
machine this box work on Linux

1072
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,760
$5,000 in Bitcoin, that I'm
still waiting for it.

1073
01:08:11,940 --> 01:08:15,510
I saw this tweet that's big.
Because I can't believe nobody's

1074
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:16,110
done it yet.

1075
01:08:16,170 --> 01:08:21,060
Well, I even registered domain
name. Mo to Linux. On what is

1076
01:08:21,060 --> 01:08:25,740
it? I forgot what it is now.
Linux mo to comment I got a.com

1077
01:08:25,740 --> 01:08:28,920
for which is points to that
thread. It's like hey, fine, go

1078
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:33,960
do it. So of course everyone has
everyone has zero solution. But

1079
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,320
I ordered this thing just before
we get on the plane to fly back

1080
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,890
from New York. And like okay
Sweetwater has a boom I ordered

1081
01:08:40,980 --> 01:08:44,250
the way Sweetwater walk works is
they have a representative and

1082
01:08:44,250 --> 01:08:47,370
they call you and they and they
your representative for that

1083
01:08:47,370 --> 01:08:50,760
purchase. And they try to upsell
you of course and it's nice

1084
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,060
though, so I land the guy says
Hey, Adam, yes, your

1085
01:08:54,060 --> 01:08:58,830
representative here to
Sweetwater Hey, the Motu AVB you

1086
01:08:58,830 --> 01:09:02,790
know, well, you know there's we
can get it for you. But it may

1087
01:09:02,790 --> 01:09:06,330
take a while because most of had
a big fire about a year and a

1088
01:09:06,330 --> 01:09:10,230
half ago and everything was
destroyed. And and they can't

1089
01:09:10,230 --> 01:09:13,110
get a chips for replacement.
Probably not until the end of

1090
01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:14,460
2023

1091
01:09:14,850 --> 01:09:18,480
Holy crap. How do you live? How
do you survive that as a

1092
01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:19,020
company?

1093
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,140
I don't know PPP loan. I don't
know.

1094
01:09:22,530 --> 01:09:26,340
I distinctly remember saying
that you should buy two more Mk.

1095
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:31,320
I know I know you were right
into looking for him and it's

1096
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:37,170
very hard to find. Yeah, it's
horrible. So anyway, I know we

1097
01:09:37,170 --> 01:09:39,510
got off on that tangent just
that was just a little side

1098
01:09:39,540 --> 01:09:40,110
story.

1099
01:09:42,029 --> 01:09:44,459
So but yeah, but we're still
waiting though. We're still

1100
01:09:44,459 --> 01:09:49,049
waiting for this phantom
personalized. Pod father

1101
01:09:49,049 --> 01:09:50,549
endorsed signature box right.

1102
01:09:50,610 --> 01:09:54,060
Good luck with that. And I got
Dave Jackson bless his soul.

1103
01:09:54,660 --> 01:09:58,290
Dave Jackson sends people to me
whenever he talks to somebody so

1104
01:09:58,290 --> 01:10:04,440
I get a note from What's the
Scarlet? You got the scarlet

1105
01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:07,560
what is it? No, I don't have the
score. I've got the EVO who made

1106
01:10:07,620 --> 01:10:09,750
who makes the Scarlet. What's
the name of that was the brand

1107
01:10:16,410 --> 01:10:19,830
Scarlet, the name of the
company, Scarlett, Scarlett?

1108
01:10:20,190 --> 01:10:23,700
Yes, Scarlett and something else
focus right Focus.

1109
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,380
Focus. Right. That's it. That's
right.

1110
01:10:25,650 --> 01:10:28,470
So I get a note from the
marketing guy. Hey, Adam, Dave

1111
01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:31,740
Jackson sent me your ways. He's
very interested in that you're

1112
01:10:31,740 --> 01:10:34,230
interested in new boxes and
like, oh, yeah, totally. You got

1113
01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:38,850
a bug? Yeah, we got a just for
podcasters is great. So do you

1114
01:10:38,850 --> 01:10:41,820
want to do you want once and you
know what? No, to send me the

1115
01:10:41,820 --> 01:10:44,730
specs. I'll be fine. Let me see
the specs in LA know if I want

1116
01:10:44,730 --> 01:10:49,380
one. I want to waste the guy's
time. So then I just like a get

1117
01:10:49,380 --> 01:10:50,310
an NDA.

1118
01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:54,690
Oh, no. I'm looking at we don't
want NDA, my

1119
01:10:54,690 --> 01:10:57,540
eyes glaze over when I forget
about him. Like I just like, Oh,

1120
01:10:57,540 --> 01:11:01,410
look at that later. And then he
says, hey, you know, any word on

1121
01:11:01,410 --> 01:11:05,610
the NDA? So I looking at it. He
says, By the way, here's the top

1122
01:11:05,610 --> 01:11:08,640
line specs, and he sends me the
top line specs and yep, there it

1123
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:16,200
is. Hey, we even have loopback
interfaces. I'm like, bro, I

1124
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,660
don't need to sign the NDA. You
don't need to send the box this

1125
01:11:18,660 --> 01:11:21,510
is this is built for gamers is
not built for podcasters that

1126
01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:24,090
have it when someone in your
company is serious about it.

1127
01:11:24,210 --> 01:11:27,390
Happy to help them. Oh, man,
thanks. I haven't even seen the

1128
01:11:27,390 --> 01:11:28,890
box myself yet. etc.

1129
01:11:29,700 --> 01:11:33,450
If you go up market enough, can
you get what you want? Like I

1130
01:11:33,450 --> 01:11:37,830
mean, if you can, can you go
high enough expensive enough to

1131
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:39,150
get this thing?

1132
01:11:39,690 --> 01:11:42,900
Not in the compact not in a
compact form. Now then before

1133
01:11:42,900 --> 01:11:45,600
you know it, you're in pro gear
and it's gonna be much bigger.

1134
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,630
And it's gonna need Ethernet
networking and stuff now.

1135
01:11:49,140 --> 01:11:50,970
You're hauling around a 19 inch
rack.

1136
01:11:51,630 --> 01:11:55,740
So the the Motu Ultralite MK
four does it and it's and this

1137
01:11:55,740 --> 01:11:58,650
thing was built for stage
monitor mixes. It was never

1138
01:11:58,650 --> 01:12:00,300
intended for what I'm using it
for.

1139
01:12:01,770 --> 01:12:05,490
Man. You need you need to order
five of these things off eBay.

1140
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,270
Yeah. All right. Well, I know
some people there's some people

1141
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:12,870
who ordered one or two this it I
got it. I got you, man. That's

1142
01:12:13,470 --> 01:12:15,720
back if you ever need it. You
just holla Yeah.

1143
01:12:17,610 --> 01:12:22,800
See? That's what I have on here.
Oh, yeah. That's sort of

1144
01:12:24,210 --> 01:12:29,700
tangential to this. Insomnia.
Radio Association in music.

1145
01:12:29,700 --> 01:12:34,440
Podcasting. Yeah. ringing a
bell. Yes. Yeah, that was your

1146
01:12:36,510 --> 01:12:38,010
buddy that showed up. It was
Yes, sir.

1147
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,790
Yeah, the old school.

1148
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:45,000
So what is this? I want to know
about what is the association of

1149
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,400
music podcasting? Because it
sounds like something we need.

1150
01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:50,970
Yeah, well, we need three of
those. Okay, we'll take three

1151
01:12:50,970 --> 01:12:55,440
association of music
Broadcasting's. So he pinged me

1152
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:59,940
said, Hey, I really want to do a
music podcast. And can I and,

1153
01:12:59,970 --> 01:13:05,250
you know, do I? Can I play music
now? And just stream sets to the

1154
01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:10,500
artists? I said, No. But you
know, if, if you have artists

1155
01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:14,790
who have songs that they are
making available to you that are

1156
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:19,470
not registered with an existing
public rights organizations?

1157
01:13:19,500 --> 01:13:21,420
Yeah, sure. You can do that.

1158
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,870
And Jason Evangelia. And, you
know,

1159
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:28,830
yes, of course. Yep. So, he,
he's just getting started. It

1160
01:13:28,830 --> 01:13:31,860
was really beautiful to see he
jumps in, I sent him an invite,

1161
01:13:31,860 --> 01:13:35,820
and he's like, holy crap. I have
no idea what's going on here.

1162
01:13:35,820 --> 01:13:38,940
I'm really confused. But I love
everybody helping out with tips

1163
01:13:38,940 --> 01:13:40,080
and knowledge and stuff to help

1164
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,230
catch up, catch up. Yes. Okay.
Jason, we're all confused. Oh,

1165
01:13:43,230 --> 01:13:43,530
yeah. No,

1166
01:13:43,740 --> 01:13:46,650
I even said, you know, our motto
was running, you know, running

1167
01:13:46,650 --> 01:13:49,710
with scissors. So don't worry,
and we all get cut.

1168
01:13:50,190 --> 01:13:52,500
That sounds like a great thing,
though. Association of music,

1169
01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:56,880
podcasting. I mean, I don't
know, is that some old group? Or

1170
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,340
is that still around? Or is that
a thing he's trying to do? Just

1171
01:13:59,370 --> 01:13:59,400
I

1172
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:00,480
don't know, just

1173
01:14:01,650 --> 01:14:05,760
because I mean, that the reason
I bring that up really is to get

1174
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,990
over to this thing, which is the
taxonomy stuff. So you know, the

1175
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:15,240
economy? Yes, yes. Just is
releasing an update, and we

1176
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:21,330
track that with the person tag.
And, but then it's been brought

1177
01:14:21,330 --> 01:14:27,930
up a few times, I think Steven B
brought it up that we need with

1178
01:14:27,930 --> 01:14:29,790
all these taxonomy things if
we're going to do music,

1179
01:14:29,790 --> 01:14:34,470
podcasting. And be prepared to
support all that. I mean, we

1180
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:39,360
need to have a taxonomy this
proper for putting into the

1181
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:43,980
person tag for that stuff, too.
Does that exist anywhere? It's

1182
01:14:43,980 --> 01:14:44,460
got to

1183
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,000
Well, I know I jumped in a
little bit on this conversation.

1184
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:54,720
The thing is that I'm not sure
if it really exists in that way.

1185
01:14:57,450 --> 01:15:02,310
Or if what exists is to limit
thing, because in the music

1186
01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:07,080
business, unlike radio or even
television to some degree,

1187
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:12,780
depending on the platform, film

1188
01:15:18,449 --> 01:15:21,419
you have all these different
credits that are well

1189
01:15:21,419 --> 01:15:25,469
established in the industry. You
know, even the even if you're

1190
01:15:25,469 --> 01:15:29,009
just a gofer just running around
for free interns, you know, it's

1191
01:15:29,009 --> 01:15:32,579
not about money, it's about
position having worked on the

1192
01:15:32,579 --> 01:15:37,439
products use me. In the music
business, every credit means

1193
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:44,399
money. Right? So the guy who was
changing the 24 track tapes back

1194
01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:50,279
in the day, also known as tape
monkey, that guy would would

1195
01:15:50,279 --> 01:15:53,039
probably get in the liner notes
as a thank you, but would never

1196
01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:55,679
get a credit because that meant
money. Because that whole

1197
01:15:55,679 --> 01:16:00,419
infrastructures around money.
And what I love about the value

1198
01:16:00,419 --> 01:16:04,649
block and the splits is that you
can say, hey, this guy just

1199
01:16:04,649 --> 01:16:07,919
brought us coffee and bagels
every morning to the studio. So

1200
01:16:07,919 --> 01:16:13,139
he's he gets a split. But but
you know, that's not necessarily

1201
01:16:13,139 --> 01:16:14,009
a taxonomy.

1202
01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:17,820
Okay, so let me let me see if I
understand what you're saying.

1203
01:16:17,850 --> 01:16:21,210
You're saying there probably,
there definitely is a taxonomy

1204
01:16:21,210 --> 01:16:23,970
somewhere, but it's not
necessarily compatible with what

1205
01:16:23,970 --> 01:16:25,530
correct we think it's

1206
01:16:25,530 --> 01:16:31,020
going to be very, very
shortlist. So every musician can

1207
01:16:31,020 --> 01:16:35,220
get. So there's a difference for
broadcast. There are certain

1208
01:16:35,220 --> 01:16:38,760
rights and certain people get
paid for streaming. So for

1209
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,850
instance, no one gets paid when
it's played on the radio. The

1210
01:16:41,850 --> 01:16:46,590
artists I'm sorry, artists don't
get paid. Their ASCAP BMI, the

1211
01:16:46,590 --> 01:16:50,250
songwriter and the composer they
get paid when it's played on the

1212
01:16:50,250 --> 01:16:52,860
radio through a blanket deal,
but not the artists, the artists

1213
01:16:52,860 --> 01:16:57,930
do get played paid on Spotify.
It's all different. It's it's,

1214
01:16:58,230 --> 01:17:03,990
it's hose is what it is. It's,
it's completely hosed. Where's

1215
01:17:03,990 --> 01:17:08,910
this? To me? The simplest is,
hey, I listen to the song. I'm

1216
01:17:08,910 --> 01:17:11,370
either listening to the song as
a standalone track part of an

1217
01:17:11,370 --> 01:17:14,700
album, or I'm listening to it as
part of a podcast. I know that

1218
01:17:14,700 --> 01:17:19,830
somehow a piece of my wallet
payments that I find valuable to

1219
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:23,610
me is going to the right people
don't have to think about it.

1220
01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:30,180
But will it work with a
taxonomy? I'm not sure. It has

1221
01:17:30,180 --> 01:17:31,920
to be open ended at some point.

1222
01:17:32,730 --> 01:17:38,010
Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. I
mean, it goes like when I put

1223
01:17:38,010 --> 01:17:42,720
in, you know, my son's band, was
the first one to have the value

1224
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:48,900
box. And I think I think I just
put in there like, you know,

1225
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:54,270
drummer guitar, right. Sing, you
know, singer. I just made stuff

1226
01:17:54,270 --> 01:18:00,120
up. But, you know, I don't I
don't know, I'm split between

1227
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,010
the tea because I'll now want to
sort of,

1228
01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:05,970
I guess use my question. The
taxonomy is not important for

1229
01:18:05,970 --> 01:18:09,510
the value blog value blog can be
whatever it is. Right. Right.

1230
01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:13,770
Right. What is the importance of
the taxonomy? What what is what

1231
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,860
by because, of course, I use it
for guests for hosts. I've never

1232
01:18:16,860 --> 01:18:22,170
gotten further than that. What
else? I mean, it's good for

1233
01:18:22,170 --> 01:18:23,640
Person Search, I guess. Right?

1234
01:18:25,050 --> 01:18:28,500
Yeah, right. So that would be
things like, yeah, people people

1235
01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:31,770
out there like pod chaser track
that stuff and they would pull

1236
01:18:31,770 --> 01:18:34,920
it in, you know, or it could go
straight into like IMDB and

1237
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:35,640
stuff like that. Or

1238
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:40,140
I'm getting spammed through pod
chaser. That's unfortunate. What

1239
01:18:40,140 --> 01:18:43,230
is your son's band name? What's
the what's the where do we find

1240
01:18:43,230 --> 01:18:45,300
I just want to put in the show
notes because we keep talking

1241
01:18:45,300 --> 01:18:46,860
about it, but never say
anything?

1242
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:52,830
Oh, it's Tor concept. T o RC O
N? Seven. But the Roman numeral

1243
01:18:52,830 --> 01:18:54,780
like VI. Torque concept.

1244
01:18:54,930 --> 01:18:56,400
Two or seven?

1245
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,730
is like some sort of way your
images read images

1246
01:18:59,730 --> 01:19:05,460
are broken. Bruh mine. Here's
the tour con images. The album

1247
01:19:05,460 --> 01:19:06,780
art images are broken.

1248
01:19:09,180 --> 01:19:10,590
cobblers kids have no shoes.

1249
01:19:12,780 --> 01:19:14,520
At least the music still works.

1250
01:19:15,690 --> 01:19:20,610
Cool. Yeah. Yeah, it's working
for me the images working? Oh,

1251
01:19:20,670 --> 01:19:25,020
no, no, it's not. That's a bad.
I don't know. It's probably some

1252
01:19:25,020 --> 01:19:28,800
of the remix content or cons.
It's like a torch sounds like

1253
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:34,440
some kind of the tornado rating
system. It's like, oh, the EF

1254
01:19:34,440 --> 01:19:35,190
three or

1255
01:19:35,580 --> 01:19:37,260
like a DEF CON for tornadoes.

1256
01:19:37,290 --> 01:19:39,510
Got it? Yeah, yes. Tornado DEF
CON.

1257
01:19:40,260 --> 01:19:42,960
And now the main thing is who's
going to build an app for this?

1258
01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:46,350
See, okay, I've got that. I've
got that right here. I've got it

1259
01:19:46,350 --> 01:19:51,120
written down. I want to we need
a music podcasting app. Yeah.

1260
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:55,470
Otherwise is not the first
person. How long have I been

1261
01:19:55,470 --> 01:19:56,160
saying this?

1262
01:19:57,630 --> 01:19:59,040
Many moons

1263
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,870
hearse to create. And it's I
think it's so much simpler than

1264
01:20:03,900 --> 01:20:07,950
than a podcast app in my
opinion. If I had a second I

1265
01:20:07,980 --> 01:20:15,900
develop myself a dev that up on
the other sheet right? Here, let

1266
01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:21,810
me dev that for a second. The
first person to dev basket. Hey,

1267
01:20:21,810 --> 01:20:27,210
that's my jam right there, man,
Apple scripts. It'll be an

1268
01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:31,530
influx of epic proportions. So
I'm kind of, I mean, Steven B is

1269
01:20:31,530 --> 01:20:35,460
clearly sovereign feeds is going
to is going to is driving the

1270
01:20:35,460 --> 01:20:39,930
feed creation process, which is
just beautiful. It just needs a

1271
01:20:39,930 --> 01:20:43,140
little explainer. I think it's
so different from podcasting,

1272
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:48,240
you should be able to throw your
your 12 tracks on some server

1273
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,630
somewhere along with an RSS
feed, you don't necessarily need

1274
01:20:51,630 --> 01:20:54,750
a whole hosting infrastructure
for that. It's not like people

1275
01:20:54,750 --> 01:20:56,940
are going to be download. I
mean, yeah, if you get a hit,

1276
01:20:57,330 --> 01:21:00,990
and you got 10s of 1000s of
people downloading it, you got a

1277
01:21:00,990 --> 01:21:04,500
good problem, there's a quality
problem and you know, ping me

1278
01:21:04,500 --> 01:21:07,110
will help you out. But you
should be able to put this

1279
01:21:07,140 --> 01:21:11,610
almost on your Umbral, you know,
your your Dropbox, whatever. And

1280
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,550
we just need to experience and
it should be it needs to be

1281
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:16,050
called something else. I think

1282
01:21:17,820 --> 01:21:22,740
that I mean, yes, Steven B. Did
you see Steven B? Changed the

1283
01:21:22,740 --> 01:21:27,000
UI? Based on the stuff we were
talking about last week? In the

1284
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:29,970
TV changed the medium tag it
switches? Yes. And yes, I

1285
01:21:29,970 --> 01:21:32,880
think that's what I'm saying.
Like, is it sovereign? kickin

1286
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,920
ass man, it's kicking out is

1287
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,950
it? Well, yeah, you're I mean,
we need a puck. We need a

1288
01:21:37,950 --> 01:21:41,070
podcast music app. Let me
somebody somebody needs to step

1289
01:21:41,070 --> 01:21:42,330
step up. Dennis. Just

1290
01:21:42,330 --> 01:21:44,910
simple. It's like instead of
podcasts, it says artists and

1291
01:21:44,910 --> 01:21:47,310
then you got albums, and then
you got whatever I mean, you'll

1292
01:21:47,310 --> 01:21:48,090
figure it out.

1293
01:21:49,230 --> 01:21:50,910
See devs dev harder. So many.

1294
01:21:52,230 --> 01:21:58,050
Dev better. Learn to dev, come
on. With this combo. It's hard

1295
01:21:58,050 --> 01:22:01,230
for me to follow. I'm sorry.
Fall back. Yeah. So DC, we're

1296
01:22:01,230 --> 01:22:06,000
way off people. We've lost the
plot now. We're just trying to

1297
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,100
create the future of media pay
no attention.

1298
01:22:08,610 --> 01:22:11,190
Yeah, the medium tag is what
we're talking about the medium

1299
01:22:11,190 --> 01:22:17,250
tag, Bless you, bless you put in
your podcast feed what this

1300
01:22:17,250 --> 01:22:23,010
content is, it tells you like so
you can put in the medium. The

1301
01:22:23,010 --> 01:22:28,020
medium here is music. And that
means to the app, it signals to

1302
01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:33,090
the app that this is not a
podcast. Like just a spoken word

1303
01:22:33,090 --> 01:22:37,140
podcast, this is music so you
this app, you should expect to

1304
01:22:37,140 --> 01:22:39,810
be getting music. And so that
means you would be able to

1305
01:22:39,810 --> 01:22:46,830
expect a ban you know the album
art liner notes, people that

1306
01:22:46,890 --> 01:22:52,140
person tags with with Band Aid,
bandish names, like drummer and

1307
01:22:52,140 --> 01:22:55,290
guitarist and right right so
that that's that's the medium

1308
01:22:55,290 --> 01:22:58,290
test what we're talking about.
And so once you have the medium

1309
01:22:58,290 --> 01:23:02,970
tag, you can make different apps
that target those only shows

1310
01:23:02,970 --> 01:23:03,690
with that media.

1311
01:23:03,690 --> 01:23:06,570
Where's that again in in
sovereign feeds where I can't

1312
01:23:06,570 --> 01:23:08,310
find it now. Where do you talk?

1313
01:23:09,450 --> 01:23:12,180
I never I don't use sovereign
feeds as your jam

1314
01:23:17,190 --> 01:23:21,870
I just got I just got a row of
ducks law live ducks booths from

1315
01:23:21,870 --> 01:23:28,260
dreads, Dred Scott and actually
has duck emojis. Oh, nice. Let

1316
01:23:28,260 --> 01:23:32,280
me see. Does it show up in the
to the booth spot catch it

1317
01:23:33,510 --> 01:23:37,950
and seen it come through yet?
Oh, there it is.

1318
01:23:37,980 --> 01:23:41,460
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Did you know my
terminals and show the emojis?

1319
01:23:41,460 --> 01:23:43,020
You see the emojis? Yeah,

1320
01:23:43,050 --> 01:23:45,390
I'm using I'm using irsie

1321
01:23:46,830 --> 01:23:51,450
IRCC IRSs RSSI. Yeah, I'm using
the same thing but I guess my

1322
01:23:51,450 --> 01:23:53,100
terminal isn't isn't grokking it

1323
01:23:53,850 --> 01:23:58,020
my terminals killer. What
terminal using? Terminal.

1324
01:23:59,730 --> 01:24:03,780
Whatever, whatever it's called.
Thanks,

1325
01:24:03,780 --> 01:24:07,620
pal. All right, terminal. Bash.
And why don't we Why don't we

1326
01:24:07,620 --> 01:24:09,990
thank a few people Dave. And
then we can just a few more

1327
01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:12,570
things we can talk about when it
seems like we Yeah, seems like

1328
01:24:12,570 --> 01:24:15,120
since you saw I just run through
some of these live boosts while

1329
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,880
you're getting your stuff
together. They're just so I can

1330
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:23,250
read what was said in the last
hour. So we got tu tu tu tu tu

1331
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:28,680
from Dred Scott BUSA a row of
live ducks. 1000 SATs from C

1332
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:37,110
dubs it's alive he says 2445
from NV for N for v x. Get Lit

1333
01:24:37,140 --> 01:24:41,730
on a Friday Night Live pasta
podcasting for the wind 830 for

1334
01:24:41,730 --> 01:24:47,310
SAS from cotton gin with a clown
face and a global emoji 111 for

1335
01:24:47,310 --> 01:24:50,160
mere mortals testing the live
boosts again want to see my name

1336
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:56,040
and the boost bot? You all see
it? Yep. 222 from C dubs with

1337
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,200
the running where he got a whole
bunch of scissors and running

1338
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:02,940
emojis got it? Sure. A couple
more from see dubs there,

1339
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,780
including a 420 and other row of
live ducks from drifts Gribbs

1340
01:25:06,780 --> 01:25:11,340
Scott 10,000 from a Chris You
know T shirts are great but

1341
01:25:11,340 --> 01:25:13,950
what's the amount of SATs one
needs to boost to get a pair of

1342
01:25:13,950 --> 01:25:18,660
podcasting 2.0 branded scissors
to run around with no. I like

1343
01:25:18,660 --> 01:25:24,060
that this new premium we'll work
on it. Sir Spencer the 10,033

1344
01:25:24,060 --> 01:25:27,690
some bounty from Casey Bitcoin
block party had a fantastic time

1345
01:25:27,690 --> 01:25:30,780
with Abel Kirby telling everyone
about value for value streaming

1346
01:25:30,780 --> 01:25:33,630
and booster grams over the
Lightning Network also got to

1347
01:25:33,630 --> 01:25:36,510
have some great discussions
about the new about music on the

1348
01:25:36,510 --> 01:25:39,030
D four v protocol exciting
things on the horizon. Well here

1349
01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:44,730
we are talking about it. And
another 3000 tags from Chris You

1350
01:25:44,730 --> 01:25:47,310
know where's everybody? We're
all finding the boost bot to

1351
01:25:47,310 --> 01:25:51,360
follow a mastodon This is
awesome. Chad F with 1000 SATs

1352
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:56,490
with the boost. Kieran my first
live boost 1111 miss the first

1353
01:25:56,490 --> 01:25:58,740
couple of minutes but I'm loving
the late start. I'm going to be

1354
01:25:58,740 --> 01:26:01,380
egotistical and assume you
didn't you did it just for me.

1355
01:26:01,590 --> 01:26:07,950
Yes, we just start just for you.
Yes in another 5000 from a Chris

1356
01:26:07,950 --> 01:26:12,540
You know who's excited about?
The live show Mater's with live

1357
01:26:12,540 --> 01:26:16,410
is up with 1000 SATs 1776 The
Freedom Patriot boosts from

1358
01:26:16,410 --> 01:26:21,090
blueberry soundcheck false I see
this sweet sticky boost bought

1359
01:26:21,090 --> 01:26:25,440
action going down a Macedon for
podcasting 2.0 Hell yeah, boost.

1360
01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:33,810
We see also we have cotton gin
has been boosting a bunch hard

1361
01:26:33,810 --> 01:26:38,160
hat pre boost pre boost during
pre boost tree boosting. I think

1362
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,040
that yeah, that's it all the
other stuff is you have on your

1363
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,800
list. So Wow. Thanks, everybody.
Hey, wow. Thanks, everybody.

1364
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,850
It's cool. What's great about it
is we're having fun, but you're

1365
01:26:47,850 --> 01:26:51,180
also helping fund the project.
Thank you.

1366
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:54,900
This is this is decentralized
Super Chat.

1367
01:26:55,470 --> 01:26:56,190
It's amazing.

1368
01:26:56,190 --> 01:26:57,840
Can we cross that one off the
list? Yes,

1369
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,740
we can. Web three everybody
live, but don't tell anybody

1370
01:27:02,190 --> 01:27:05,040
when they won't believe you have
web three is happening over

1371
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,560
there. Everybody's good.
Everybody's getting a piece of

1372
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,850
the action web three. Mark and
Marc Andreessen is about to pop

1373
01:27:11,850 --> 01:27:12,810
up and take credit for

1374
01:27:14,910 --> 01:27:17,190
Mark underscore Andreessen in
the chat room.

1375
01:27:18,150 --> 01:27:20,730
Yeah. P P mark, whatever his
name is.

1376
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:25,770
P mark. We this was this was a
this was a

1377
01:27:25,799 --> 01:27:27,689
paper week. Oh, okay.

1378
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:30,960
Yeah, you ready? Yeah. I'm
ready. Sit down.

1379
01:27:31,170 --> 01:27:32,160
I'm sitting down.

1380
01:27:34,860 --> 01:27:36,990
$1,000 from rss.com

1381
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:43,680
Holy moly. big baller baller
boosts big bottom. Best Shot

1382
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:49,920
call all 20 blades on him, Paul.
Thank you. rss.com

1383
01:27:50,220 --> 01:27:52,860
Don't take your hand off the
boost button. I mean, off the

1384
01:27:52,860 --> 01:27:58,170
road. Okay. Message from rss.com
Dave Adam, and all the other

1385
01:27:58,170 --> 01:28:02,070
contributors to podcasting 2.0
project. Once again, we want to

1386
01:28:02,070 --> 01:28:04,890
thank you for all you do via the
index and the namespace. Keep up

1387
01:28:04,890 --> 01:28:08,520
the hard work your friends of
the show. rss.com Alberta band

1388
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,470
and Company. Go podcasting.

1389
01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:16,680
Yo, thank you. Thank you so
much. Yeah, it's always the

1390
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,130
hosting guys who have kept us
alive really, with the big

1391
01:28:20,130 --> 01:28:23,400
sustaining stuff yet tells you
something.

1392
01:28:24,270 --> 01:28:31,260
The Alberto is he sent me an
email. I'll be coming back to

1393
01:28:31,260 --> 01:28:33,180
you pretty quick. I got I got
some ideas on what you're

1394
01:28:33,180 --> 01:28:37,890
talking about. Yes, yeah.
They've they've been helping.

1395
01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:41,460
Just keep us alive and going
from day one. Almost. I mean,

1396
01:28:41,460 --> 01:28:45,270
just so early on. Now. I really
appreciate that, guys. Thank you

1397
01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:50,340
very much. And there's so many
people. I mean, I don't think

1398
01:28:50,340 --> 01:28:53,580
people understand like, on the
financial side of things,

1399
01:28:53,850 --> 01:28:57,210
especially early on, there's a
couple of times where rss.com

1400
01:28:57,210 --> 01:28:58,830
came in at the right no

1401
01:28:58,830 --> 01:29:01,740
rarely right time. Yeah. Really
needed.

1402
01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:08,880
Always love you guys. Buzzsprout
$500

1403
01:29:09,809 --> 01:29:15,869
Just hit him again. far as I'm
concerned, you have a 500 SATs.

1404
01:29:15,869 --> 01:29:19,259
You're a baller. We love it.
Thank you. Yeah, beautiful.

1405
01:29:19,589 --> 01:29:24,569
Thank you Buzzsprout they they
have supported us every month

1406
01:29:24,569 --> 01:29:28,859
now and it's awesome. And they
you know but if you've been

1407
01:29:28,859 --> 01:29:30,869
listening to us cast when
they're doing the I saw

1408
01:29:30,870 --> 01:29:34,410
a post that they were talking
about stuff and there was no

1409
01:29:34,410 --> 01:29:38,550
time codes. I'm listening and I
had to do I had to wash the dog.

1410
01:29:39,870 --> 01:29:45,180
Sorry, Kevin has given away sets
on on Twitter. Boost.

1411
01:29:45,390 --> 01:29:48,270
Nice. I love that is hilarious.

1412
01:29:48,300 --> 01:29:55,050
Cool. So we got a new Pay Pal
donor this week. Uh huh.

1413
01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:00,750
Fountain gave us $200 last year
and friends you Right. Thank

1414
01:30:00,750 --> 01:30:04,080
you. Yeah, yeah, I thanked him.
And he said, he said it was long

1415
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,030
overdue, and he really
appreciates everything that

1416
01:30:06,030 --> 01:30:08,970
we've done. We appreciate what
you guys are doing. Yes. Thank

1417
01:30:08,970 --> 01:30:12,780
you Oscar. And I think Nick, is
Nick his buddy this working with

1418
01:30:12,780 --> 01:30:12,870
him?

1419
01:30:12,900 --> 01:30:14,670
I believe so. Yeah. I think it's

1420
01:30:14,670 --> 01:30:21,690
Nick. Thank you guys. Appreciate
it. Oscar. Todd news. $50 Okay.

1421
01:30:22,500 --> 01:30:23,730
Thank you, James. Thank

1422
01:30:23,730 --> 01:30:24,930
you, James. Very much.

1423
01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:29,850
Yes. That I get you to, to
rewrite half of our privacy

1424
01:30:29,850 --> 01:30:30,510
policy in the

1425
01:30:30,959 --> 01:30:34,739
US Yes, this is exactly this is
the value for value system.

1426
01:30:35,069 --> 01:30:38,189
Yeah. It's not like you're not
working Dave Jones.

1427
01:30:38,669 --> 01:30:41,939
Well, that's how lawyers work.
You know, you pay him and then

1428
01:30:41,939 --> 01:30:46,889
they have other people who are
exactly Lauren balls and is

1429
01:30:47,099 --> 01:30:51,329
$25.20 their paper and he says,
to answer the question, Why

1430
01:30:51,329 --> 01:30:55,799
$24.20 I think that's his
recurring donation is to answer

1431
01:30:55,799 --> 01:31:01,079
the question why 2420 because
2520 does not add up enjoy the

1432
01:31:01,079 --> 01:31:06,749
day all right about missing I
don't understand I don't

1433
01:31:06,750 --> 01:31:11,400
know I don't know there's a 420
in there maybe. It may I guess

1434
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:12,660
that's where my brain goes.

1435
01:31:13,980 --> 01:31:15,450
Thank you for this money. Yeah,
I

1436
01:31:15,450 --> 01:31:17,970
still don't understand which
Okay, keep it coming. Keep

1437
01:31:17,970 --> 01:31:19,560
explaining it. Yes.

1438
01:31:19,590 --> 01:31:26,490
Try many times in different
ways. $17.91 from Michael Newman

1439
01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:32,310
our buddy the manager of the
team's repo. Oh yes right yep.

1440
01:31:32,820 --> 01:31:35,430
all around good guy says hitting
the easy button this month

1441
01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:39,840
because my outbound liquidity is
shot Who here's a here's a Bill

1442
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:44,130
of Rights ratified in 1791 stack
of Fiat fun coupons in place

1443
01:31:44,130 --> 01:31:46,680
with my monthly SATs. This ship

1444
01:31:49,110 --> 01:31:52,110
will spend it as quickly as we
can before devalues before our

1445
01:31:52,110 --> 01:31:54,360
very eyes. Hey, did the
inflation numbers come out

1446
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:54,720
today?

1447
01:31:55,890 --> 01:31:59,190
Do I hope so. I hope you know
what it'll probably say is like,

1448
01:31:59,670 --> 01:32:02,700
oh, it's like 7% that's all
meantime in the real world is

1449
01:32:02,700 --> 01:32:04,020
like 40% Yeah, right.

1450
01:32:05,130 --> 01:32:06,360
I bought a month

1451
01:32:06,690 --> 01:32:12,510
battery for mum. My wife's car
today. car battery. Uh huh. Same

1452
01:32:12,510 --> 01:32:16,440
battery about three years ago.
Three years ago, this battery

1453
01:32:16,440 --> 01:32:22,410
cost $165 today $220.

1454
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,400
Brother I'm telling you we
filled up our propane tank.

1455
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:35,160
Before we didn't go on vacation.
It was 270 a gallon now 320

1456
01:32:37,290 --> 01:32:41,850
And this is not this is not 8%
inflation this is way more Yes

1457
01:32:41,850 --> 01:32:44,550
way. Well, there's difference
between headline inflation,

1458
01:32:44,970 --> 01:32:48,480
which is your food and gas which
is your headlines. And then core

1459
01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:51,720
inflation which is everything
else so stop complaining. Joe

1460
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,950
Biden's doing a great job. Trust
your central bankers they're

1461
01:32:55,950 --> 01:32:56,430
great.

1462
01:32:56,969 --> 01:32:57,749
It's the Putin price

1463
01:32:57,990 --> 01:33:02,190
it's a Putin price hike. How
insulting are these people like

1464
01:33:03,030 --> 01:33:08,580
Adam see heart no relation to
Adam see curry sent us $10 No no

1465
01:33:08,820 --> 01:33:10,080
could not find it all right.
Thank you.

1466
01:33:10,110 --> 01:33:10,830
Thank you very much.

1467
01:33:12,030 --> 01:33:13,830
That's Mr. Paper I

1468
01:33:13,830 --> 01:33:18,210
will take it Fiat fun coupons in
the in actually Ilan coin we

1469
01:33:18,210 --> 01:33:18,600
love it

1470
01:33:23,010 --> 01:33:24,900
inbox okay but

1471
01:33:26,220 --> 01:33:30,300
oh hold on Well, let's do this
properly because I'm still I'm

1472
01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:37,170
still obsessed with this boost
jingle I can't help myself. I

1473
01:33:37,170 --> 01:33:37,620
love it.

1474
01:33:38,730 --> 01:33:41,100
Ice Cube I want to put in brand
new car battery with a big

1475
01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:47,400
sticker was faced 2500 says from
Sir Shona, the Allegheny Valley

1476
01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:50,400
AK Sean McCune, he says go
crypto casting

1477
01:33:52,530 --> 01:33:53,700
okay trying to get my goat

1478
01:33:54,150 --> 01:33:58,650
se lewd and gave us a 1611 SAS
and he says I just want to give

1479
01:33:58,650 --> 01:34:02,670
you a pronunciation guide on the
name. It's the word lewd with a

1480
01:34:02,670 --> 01:34:06,600
C sound right before but mesh
together sound like it's a sound

1481
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:12,210
like a foreigner pronouncing the
name, Claude. Haha, clue. Clue.

1482
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:17,130
Okay, I see also a reason the
reason for the 1611 SAS is

1483
01:34:17,130 --> 01:34:19,890
because that's the year the King
James Bible was authorized go

1484
01:34:19,890 --> 01:34:28,170
podcasting go boost. Thank you
clay Thank you. clewd blueberry,

1485
01:34:28,260 --> 01:34:31,830
or we'd like to call him boost
Burris and a boob donation. 8008

1486
01:34:31,830 --> 01:34:35,430
sets through fountain he says
shout out to servo and the

1487
01:34:35,430 --> 01:34:38,850
amazing work he does. Gal the
bot that hangs out in the green

1488
01:34:38,850 --> 01:34:43,230
room on zero node. Hashtag green
room will do all sorts of

1489
01:34:43,230 --> 01:34:46,650
amazing things if you ask.
She'll even read boosts out. But

1490
01:34:46,650 --> 01:34:50,850
most importantly, she can now do
Celtic Tarot spreads for you,

1491
01:34:50,850 --> 01:34:53,550
which is some of the coolest
shit I've ever seen.

1492
01:34:53,580 --> 01:34:58,170
Okay, I don't understand any of
that, but it's fantastic. So do

1493
01:34:58,170 --> 01:35:01,770
I have to hit the hashtag Hey
girl What do I do? I want to

1494
01:35:01,770 --> 01:35:02,850
activate the shit.

1495
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:07,200
Hashtag green room in his Celtic
Tarot spreads.

1496
01:35:07,230 --> 01:35:08,220
So what do you do?

1497
01:35:08,940 --> 01:35:09,960
I don't know. Well,

1498
01:35:09,990 --> 01:35:10,800
do you know help?

1499
01:35:12,750 --> 01:35:13,920
I don't know show reboost

1500
01:35:13,950 --> 01:35:18,720
Oh, you got to join hashtag
green room on second let me try

1501
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:22,260
that joy that gets get you
terrorists bread green room

1502
01:35:22,260 --> 01:35:24,720
okay, I'm in there now what do I
do?

1503
01:35:26,460 --> 01:35:28,980
Exclamation point draw space
Celtic

1504
01:35:29,670 --> 01:35:38,370
draw Celtic? Yeah. See she's, oh
did it sent me back an image.

1505
01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:40,350
It's

1506
01:35:42,570 --> 01:35:43,380
like an image of

1507
01:35:43,500 --> 01:35:48,090
Taroko sent me a link link to an
image. Don't click on his virus.

1508
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,300
Oh no Oh, oh, he's gonna send me
back a whole bunch of tarot

1509
01:35:51,300 --> 01:35:55,500
cards. Okay. All right, nice,
but how does that bring money

1510
01:35:55,500 --> 01:36:00,840
into our node? Okay, all right,
um, back to the 2.0 chat room.

1511
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:01,470
Okay, sorry,

1512
01:36:01,500 --> 01:36:05,940
Rebecca and Jen. 5000 SATs. Ooh,
she says welcome back. Thank

1513
01:36:05,940 --> 01:36:08,100
you. She's talking about maybe
here maybe?

1514
01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:09,540
Yeah.

1515
01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:17,550
9813 37 leet sets and he says I
grew up watching anime with

1516
01:36:17,550 --> 01:36:20,580
subtitles so it just feels
comfortable to have on but not

1517
01:36:20,580 --> 01:36:28,770
all the time. Will take comic
strip blogger delimiter No, no,

1518
01:36:28,770 --> 01:36:30,390
no, no, that's that. They gotta

1519
01:36:30,450 --> 01:36:32,820
know he sent this he sent this
late today.

1520
01:36:33,660 --> 01:36:37,110
Okay, I've got him out of order
so I'm outside. Yeah,

1521
01:36:37,710 --> 01:36:42,780
it's just like to understand why
comics or Blogger is obsessed

1522
01:36:43,260 --> 01:36:47,160
with booster grabbing making
sure that he knows that we've

1523
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,680
boosted gramming That that we
have to confirm that the booster

1524
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,270
gram is received

1525
01:36:52,139 --> 01:36:56,099
your as your you just said the
words I'd like to know what

1526
01:36:56,099 --> 01:36:58,799
comic strip bloggers obsessed
with fill in the blank. Big

1527
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,770
mistake. Yes. Big mistake should
not have asked that.

1528
01:37:02,910 --> 01:37:07,110
CASP eland 3690 sets the
fountain A says I stopped the

1529
01:37:07,110 --> 01:37:11,520
33x X donations no more Abort
mission donations. I go for the

1530
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:15,480
3690 or the 963 Tesla number
donation level thanks for the

1531
01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:15,870
show.

1532
01:37:15,930 --> 01:37:19,740
Don't post yes nice thank you
cash Oh

1533
01:37:19,740 --> 01:37:23,580
Karen from the mere mortals
podcast he's in the chat room

1534
01:37:23,580 --> 01:37:28,080
right now he's sit at row ducks
2222 Yo thought brand and he

1535
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:35,940
says just listen to your chat on
what Bitcoin did Adam really

1536
01:37:35,940 --> 01:37:39,210
great explanation of podcasting
2.0 and V for V Thank you and

1537
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,960
your enthusiasm is infectious.
And it's going to be awesome to

1538
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:47,250
see Bitcoin 2.0 and V for V all
grow together. Don't tire

1539
01:37:47,250 --> 01:37:50,460
yourself out Dave. We can still
take along without the Potts age

1540
01:37:50,460 --> 01:37:52,920
for a while. Glad your son
learned his lesson. My dad

1541
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,490
always said that Motorbikes are
coffins on wheels. Yeah. Yes.

1542
01:37:56,820 --> 01:38:02,850
What Bitcoin did, that's Peter
McCormick, Peter McCormick. I

1543
01:38:02,850 --> 01:38:06,660
did that interview when he was
in Austin and had Airbnb and it

1544
01:38:06,660 --> 01:38:10,470
was really early in the morning.
But I appreciate Peter so much

1545
01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:14,220
because we disagree on a lot of
things philosophically

1546
01:38:14,220 --> 01:38:20,250
politically. But we wish He's
such a nice cordial man. And he

1547
01:38:20,250 --> 01:38:23,100
will let you speak and you know
he can deal say I don't agree

1548
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:26,400
with that. But it doesn't make a
big deal isn't argumentative

1549
01:38:27,180 --> 01:38:30,390
just really leave someone in
their own value I think is how

1550
01:38:30,390 --> 01:38:35,370
the Dutch say it and and so
appreciated. And yes, I got a

1551
01:38:35,370 --> 01:38:40,710
lot of of most of the recent
podcast interviews I've done is

1552
01:38:40,710 --> 01:38:44,910
really, it got a lot of people
talking about 2.0 and stuff.

1553
01:38:45,629 --> 01:38:49,409
The thing I remember and I've
never met him talk to him or

1554
01:38:49,409 --> 01:38:52,499
anything but the only thing I
remember about Peter McCormick

1555
01:38:52,499 --> 01:38:58,169
is when the whole El Salvador
Bitcoin right under thing

1556
01:38:58,169 --> 01:38:58,649
happened.

1557
01:38:59,610 --> 01:39:02,040
Like he's down went down there,
right? Yeah, he went down. Uh

1558
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:02,610
huh.

1559
01:39:02,970 --> 01:39:08,220
And met with boo Kaylee. And
he's here in like, a t shirt and

1560
01:39:08,220 --> 01:39:11,970
some shorts. Yeah. Shaken boo
Kelly, the president of the

1561
01:39:11,970 --> 01:39:14,550
country's hand. Yes, buddy. Oh,
Twitter's like could you don't

1562
01:39:14,580 --> 01:39:15,480
like like

1563
01:39:15,480 --> 01:39:20,280
put on some pants or something?
Gotta appreciate it, man.

1564
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:21,300
Bitcoin.

1565
01:39:22,230 --> 01:39:26,970
Let Andy Lehmann from Lima
creations a 1776 a little

1566
01:39:26,970 --> 01:39:31,020
liberty SATs Matic and he says a
lawful but awful hilarious.

1567
01:39:31,170 --> 01:39:33,900
All right. Yep, that was our
title.

1568
01:39:35,670 --> 01:39:40,050
Mary Oscar, also known as Oscar
marry 50,000 SATs through

1569
01:39:40,050 --> 01:39:42,750
fountain and he says boosting
for David grant hopefully a

1570
01:39:42,750 --> 01:39:48,420
smooth recovery will thank you.
Boost he sends a Pay Pal

1571
01:39:48,420 --> 01:39:49,530
handsome SATs in this Yeah,

1572
01:39:49,530 --> 01:39:50,730
we exotic control.

1573
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:55,830
He's a upstanding fellow. Karen
from mere mortals back again. He

1574
01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:58,230
gave us another row of ducks.
And he says I've been thinking

1575
01:39:58,230 --> 01:40:01,170
about two things lately. And
unintended consequences and

1576
01:40:01,170 --> 01:40:05,280
realize desires that are that
are only what you wanted in your

1577
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:11,100
head and not in reality. This is
deep stuff here. Hagar, if

1578
01:40:11,190 --> 01:40:12,990
Carmen's eaten the shrooms
again.

1579
01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:22,410
I don't know what gal the green
room but is handling handing out

1580
01:40:22,410 --> 01:40:26,490
but it's good. Good for you.
Yeah. I wonder if the people who

1581
01:40:26,490 --> 01:40:30,030
write these demanding podcasting
should articles have really

1582
01:40:30,030 --> 01:40:33,660
thought it through. If Valerie
sponsored her favorite app to

1583
01:40:33,660 --> 01:40:36,870
implement these recommendations,
she would probably hate the app

1584
01:40:37,020 --> 01:40:40,140
in the app itself would become a
worst product. Maybe a case

1585
01:40:40,140 --> 01:40:47,460
study before wholesale changes
to an industry. Yes, good. Roi,

1586
01:40:47,850 --> 01:40:52,740
slash on sale. 54,321 stats
54321.

1587
01:40:54,390 --> 01:40:59,310
Roi. Thank you, Ronnie.

1588
01:40:59,430 --> 01:41:01,830
He says, Hey, Dave, wishing your
son a speedy recovery. Well,

1589
01:41:01,830 --> 01:41:02,610
thank you, Roy.

1590
01:41:03,480 --> 01:41:07,320
I'm gonna catch up with Roy.
next couple of days. I should

1591
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:12,930
give Roy Roy is what I love
about Roy. He's always we have

1592
01:41:12,930 --> 01:41:15,780
signal chats. And I'm sure you
have the same show. Everyone has

1593
01:41:15,780 --> 01:41:20,490
the same with Roy. He's always
the guy who will send a hand

1594
01:41:20,490 --> 01:41:26,340
clap of a praying hands emoji
and hearts. Here. He's big on

1595
01:41:26,340 --> 01:41:29,400
sending hearts and I really
appreciate that. Not many men

1596
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:32,310
will do that. You know, not many
men will do that. And I really

1597
01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:33,450
liked that, that he does that.

1598
01:41:33,870 --> 01:41:36,420
It's changed me I started doing
I know.

1599
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:40,320
I know. It's funny you say that.
I'm like, I love this. The other

1600
01:41:40,410 --> 01:41:45,030
okay, I'm in New York. I'm in
I'm like, there's a lot of

1601
01:41:45,030 --> 01:41:47,460
activity. I'm going to
bookstores, my daughter and you

1602
01:41:47,460 --> 01:41:50,340
know, this is a bookstore where
they forced us to wear a mask.

1603
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:52,950
And I was I was a little
irritated and I'm just trying to

1604
01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:57,660
figure out I'm texting with
Tina, I'm texting with a couple

1605
01:41:57,660 --> 01:42:01,620
other people. I'm texting with
Dave for some stuff. And and so

1606
01:42:01,620 --> 01:42:05,370
I tell Tina, it's like I love
you. And then Dave is like, I

1607
01:42:05,370 --> 01:42:09,840
love you too. posted the wrong
chat.

1608
01:42:12,900 --> 01:42:16,080
My day. My ROI mode.

1609
01:42:16,380 --> 01:42:19,890
Exactly like oh, okay, I love
you too. It's all good.

1610
01:42:20,190 --> 01:42:27,540
Very bag, baby. Yeah. Sir Doug
4400. Sets, says message is just

1611
01:42:27,570 --> 01:42:31,380
a value for value. Thank you.
Thank you, Sir Don Kim. Oh, Chad

1612
01:42:31,380 --> 01:42:36,750
Farah. Yep. Love Chad 30 333
sets. And he says I really liked

1613
01:42:36,750 --> 01:42:39,960
these two plus hour episodes of
a two hour episode last week.

1614
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:40,140
Yeah,

1615
01:42:40,140 --> 01:42:46,500
we did. What was a warm? Post?
We do. Long. One on 143. Now

1616
01:42:47,070 --> 01:42:52,830
Oh, geez. Comic Strip blogger.
Let's see. Oh, this is from two

1617
01:42:52,830 --> 01:42:56,160
diff. That's from last the last
week. Okay, I'm gonna combine

1618
01:42:56,160 --> 01:43:03,120
these. All right. Martin for pot
friend. I miss you Martin. 7654.

1619
01:43:03,510 --> 01:43:07,350
Sets. He says how much pod to
the podcast are cast if a

1620
01:43:07,350 --> 01:43:08,670
podcaster could cast pod

1621
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,070
kill me. Danish. Yeah, typical.

1622
01:43:14,670 --> 01:43:19,710
Oh, Macintosh. 1000 sets through
fountain he says. Thanks for the

1623
01:43:19,710 --> 01:43:22,440
kind words last week Dave? I'm
just trying to do my part to

1624
01:43:22,440 --> 01:43:25,230
help out the message last week
was completely messed up by

1625
01:43:25,230 --> 01:43:28,860
Apple. Apple iPhone autocorrect
was something along the lines of

1626
01:43:28,860 --> 01:43:31,980
Note to self aid to top off
wallet. That's why I could only

1627
01:43:31,980 --> 01:43:34,710
send 50 SATs. It was my last 50
says in the wall. Oh

1628
01:43:34,710 --> 01:43:35,280
no.

1629
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,280
You two are awesome. And have
been my number one podcast

1630
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,380
listen since episode one. Oh,
that's very,

1631
01:43:40,380 --> 01:43:41,250
very cool. Thank you.

1632
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:46,530
Thank you, Macintosh appreciate
and fill your wallet back.

1633
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:49,200
Tap that up.

1634
01:43:49,530 --> 01:43:54,780
Yeah. Chip 98 gave us 1337 says
and he says plus one for making

1635
01:43:54,780 --> 01:43:56,160
it easier for musicians.

1636
01:43:57,030 --> 01:44:00,270
Yeah, this is gonna be an influx
man. The musicians are

1637
01:44:00,299 --> 01:44:03,719
primed. And sovereign feeds is
where it's going to begin I

1638
01:44:03,719 --> 01:44:04,949
think. Oh, yeah.

1639
01:44:04,980 --> 01:44:07,380
Oh, yeah. That's the sovereign
feeds is driving it. You bet.

1640
01:44:08,850 --> 01:44:13,830
Okay, so chemistry blogger. Here
we go. delimiter Howdy, David.

1641
01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:17,430
Adam. See, here's your polish
pal, the CSP hobby cartoon

1642
01:44:17,430 --> 01:44:21,510
doodler, and I'm trying new app
fountain for iPhone. So

1643
01:44:21,780 --> 01:44:24,360
artificial intelligence is one
of the top three most impactful

1644
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,330
technologies invented by
mankind. And you are warmly

1645
01:44:27,330 --> 01:44:31,110
welcome to listen to our podcast
about AI called AI duck cooking.

1646
01:44:31,620 --> 01:44:36,090
Read by Gregory William Forsythe
Foreman from Kent. Just typing

1647
01:44:36,090 --> 01:44:40,920
your web browser any podcast
app, quote, AI dot cooking

1648
01:44:41,010 --> 01:44:42,240
unquote. Yeah.

1649
01:44:42,900 --> 01:44:45,930
All right. Well, I've decided
that we needed a jingle for

1650
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:53,160
comics or Blogger think that was
appropriate for him now.

1651
01:44:53,610 --> 01:44:59,100
That's very final. That's very
final sending is like, monthlies

1652
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,080
through Pay Pal we get James
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1653
01:45:04,440 --> 01:45:09,150
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1654
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1655
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old Drib Michael Kimmerer $5.33
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1656
01:45:23,130 --> 01:45:29,760
Martin $2 Jeff Miller $20 Aaron
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1657
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:30,720
$5.

1658
01:45:31,020 --> 01:45:35,100
Thank you all so much for
supporting the project and a

1659
01:45:35,100 --> 01:45:39,450
special shout out to Dred Scott
who always updates us when he's

1660
01:45:39,480 --> 01:45:44,640
he does so many chapter chapter
or so much chapter work for so

1661
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,880
many different podcasts. Then
he'll always update us like,

1662
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,660
Hey, man, like my kids puking.
I'm puking on my kid. And my

1663
01:45:51,660 --> 01:45:55,440
wife's puking on both of us. It
may be delayed a little bit

1664
01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:59,250
like, Oh, it's okay. It's okay.
Well, we'll work it out. But

1665
01:45:59,250 --> 01:46:03,720
also, especially with with the
booster grams, you know, it's

1666
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:07,320
going all the way down line.
Everybody gets their share. We

1667
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:11,130
have all the splits put in and
it's so you're really helping

1668
01:46:11,130 --> 01:46:13,350
the whole system including we
talked about sovereign themes.

1669
01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:15,720
You're helping sovereign feasts,
I'm a curio Kassar, we're

1670
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,180
actually helping carry Kassar if
you're listening in Fountain

1671
01:46:18,180 --> 01:46:20,580
you're helping you're helping
everybody with your booster

1672
01:46:20,580 --> 01:46:25,200
grams That was always the vision
and that's working and really

1673
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:30,120
appreciate that hard hat sent to
another row of ducks as did end

1674
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:35,250
for VX with a he said quote big
heads keep people engaged in

1675
01:46:35,250 --> 01:46:39,330
quote Adam curry podcasting to
point out some more ducks from

1676
01:46:39,330 --> 01:46:43,080
Carolyn we got boost burry with
podcast with scissors boost me

1677
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:47,400
bitch. Alright, so thank you all
so much for that. Also for our

1678
01:46:47,430 --> 01:46:52,020
Fiat fun coupon donations go to
podcast index.org That's where

1679
01:46:52,020 --> 01:46:54,840
you can see at the bottom a
donate button for PayPal.

1680
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,440
There's also you can send us if
you want to send us Bitcoin on

1681
01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:01,470
chain. But of course I'd like
you to get a podcast app from

1682
01:47:01,470 --> 01:47:04,620
new podcast apps.com Fill up
your wallet and get cranking and

1683
01:47:04,620 --> 01:47:07,560
boosting and not just us boost
everything boosts lots of shows.

1684
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:14,100
Your your boost uses your
dinner. Boosts Your dinner. Yes.

1685
01:47:14,460 --> 01:47:16,950
Because one thing's for sure
we're not getting any part of

1686
01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:19,710
that Spotify open source fund
money.

1687
01:47:21,060 --> 01:47:23,940
Oh yeah, I love Spotify fun.
What

1688
01:47:23,940 --> 01:47:26,580
a douche bags.

1689
01:47:26,940 --> 01:47:29,520
Remember the last one? Of course
you don't

1690
01:47:29,610 --> 01:47:33,270
know Dad's curriculum covered
that quite well. Now. These guys

1691
01:47:33,270 --> 01:47:36,990
are so full of shit. All of
them, all of them. Trust me,

1692
01:47:36,990 --> 01:47:41,700
it's all going away. You'll see.
Netflix can't even keep their

1693
01:47:41,700 --> 01:47:45,150
red. They're their members. This
is all falling apart in front of

1694
01:47:45,150 --> 01:47:46,110
our very eyes.

1695
01:47:46,590 --> 01:47:51,120
The next the Netflix thing is
just sad. I mean that that's

1696
01:47:51,210 --> 01:47:56,160
they have nothing to eat. You
have. But who was it that got

1697
01:47:56,160 --> 01:48:02,550
bought by discovery? CNN. Okay,
see? Let's see. And then and

1698
01:48:02,550 --> 01:48:05,940
then you got what an HBO part of
that deal to did that come out

1699
01:48:05,940 --> 01:48:07,200
of AT and T and

1700
01:48:07,350 --> 01:48:11,160
HBO was Warner. So yeah, that's
a part of Yeah. And then

1701
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:14,880
you had somebody bought MGM?

1702
01:48:15,599 --> 01:48:19,739
Oh, that was a while back. That
was Amazon Amazon, right Amazon

1703
01:48:19,739 --> 01:48:19,949
bought

1704
01:48:20,580 --> 01:48:24,720
in the deal just closed. You've
got all these companies that are

1705
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:29,820
consolidating their, their,
their catalogs and controlling

1706
01:48:29,820 --> 01:48:32,490
these, they're going to end up
with a few companies controlling

1707
01:48:32,490 --> 01:48:36,660
these huge catalogs of prior
films and stuff. And then you're

1708
01:48:36,660 --> 01:48:38,910
gonna have Netflix over there
with nothing.

1709
01:48:39,059 --> 01:48:42,749
Well, most are going to have
nothing. It's, it's it's going

1710
01:48:42,749 --> 01:48:45,959
to be it's going to it's not
going to end well. But also what

1711
01:48:45,959 --> 01:48:50,609
do you really have? What do you
really have and again, these

1712
01:48:50,609 --> 01:48:53,249
companies are not really thrown
off profit. I mean, Amazon is

1713
01:48:53,249 --> 01:48:58,019
short for their Amazon Studios a
loss leader for them. HBO is the

1714
01:48:58,019 --> 01:49:01,229
only one really doing it right
in my opinion. And I think I

1715
01:49:01,229 --> 01:49:03,479
think they've been longtime
Yeah, they've been doing a long

1716
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:06,209
time that they're making money,
everyone else is not making

1717
01:49:06,209 --> 01:49:06,569
money.

1718
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:12,300
I think the time is coming to an
end where you're going to be

1719
01:49:12,300 --> 01:49:15,090
able to in this is where it
relates to podcasting in my

1720
01:49:15,090 --> 01:49:17,850
mind, I think the time has come
to an end where you're going to

1721
01:49:17,850 --> 01:49:22,830
have like these podcasters that
where you have a have a good set

1722
01:49:22,830 --> 01:49:26,670
of IP and you just roll it over
there to Netflix or Amazon and

1723
01:49:26,670 --> 01:49:30,000
turn it into like a like a video
book film property. Yeah,

1724
01:49:30,030 --> 01:49:32,340
because I don't think the money
is going to be there to do that

1725
01:49:32,340 --> 01:49:32,940
stuff.

1726
01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:35,700
I mean, I was listening to pod
land and I didn't hear

1727
01:49:35,700 --> 01:49:39,540
everything but I heard yeah
wonder he is doing shows with

1728
01:49:39,540 --> 01:49:42,180
the production budget of
$100,000

1729
01:49:42,660 --> 01:49:45,540
You kidding me? That doesn't go
very far.

1730
01:49:45,630 --> 01:49:48,570
You know, it's like no, this is
not going to last this is not

1731
01:49:48,570 --> 01:49:49,260
gonna last

1732
01:49:49,469 --> 01:49:51,569
and then you have the union's
trying to take a piece of the

1733
01:49:51,780 --> 01:49:56,640
Oh, the union everyone's
unionizing. Yeah it's it's I

1734
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,370
just feel bad because phony
would you know, it's like, oh,

1735
01:49:59,370 --> 01:50:01,560
we're all like We're doing
productions and we're getting

1736
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:08,550
great distribution. No, you're
not. It's a, it's a mirage. The

1737
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:12,960
Rogen and a couple of these big
deals this mirage. That's not

1738
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:15,450
That's not where it's not where
it's going to wind up, the

1739
01:50:15,450 --> 01:50:18,030
budgets are going to stop,
they're going to clamp down,

1740
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:22,380
because the money is just not
there. I'm just going to keep

1741
01:50:22,380 --> 01:50:28,740
saying it. But show me the
profit. And now you know, cheap

1742
01:50:28,740 --> 01:50:31,950
money is over use of you get
money for free, borrow it for

1743
01:50:31,950 --> 01:50:35,010
free. If you're a corporation
that debts now it's costing

1744
01:50:35,010 --> 01:50:37,830
actual, you know, as interest
rates go up, it's costing money

1745
01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:41,220
again. Oh, okay. Well, maybe we
don't spend so much. Thank you.

1746
01:50:44,910 --> 01:50:49,230
Thank you, I think we got
enough. To wrap it up. Yeah, the

1747
01:50:49,230 --> 01:50:52,530
only thing I wanted to mention
is Umbral has something kind of

1748
01:50:52,530 --> 01:50:57,390
interesting, which is the Agora
project, which is an app when

1749
01:50:57,390 --> 01:51:02,310
you install it, you can you can
specify a directory and you can

1750
01:51:02,310 --> 01:51:07,260
put files in there. And people
have to pay to download the file

1751
01:51:07,260 --> 01:51:11,220
or you can also have a, like a
free test, and then you can get

1752
01:51:11,220 --> 01:51:14,700
an invoice later. It's kind of
interesting. It's not quite what

1753
01:51:14,700 --> 01:51:18,570
we need, but it's just, I
thought was kind of fun. You

1754
01:51:18,570 --> 01:51:20,760
know, Hey, you want this file?
You can download it if you pay

1755
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:21,810
me 500 SATs

1756
01:51:22,260 --> 01:51:24,510
was Zelicah LSAT thing, or

1757
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:30,780
I'm not quite sure how it works.
But it works. It does work. does

1758
01:51:30,780 --> 01:51:31,170
work?

1759
01:51:31,620 --> 01:51:34,890
I've got I've got a couple of
ideas on what I'm going to be

1760
01:51:34,890 --> 01:51:39,000
kind of working on this week.
And one of them I definitely

1761
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,360
want to discuss next week. But
it's a big topics, I think, I

1762
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:43,620
think are too long for me

1763
01:51:43,620 --> 01:51:47,010
want to just tease it so we can
people can start getting mad

1764
01:51:47,010 --> 01:51:47,430
about it.

1765
01:51:49,500 --> 01:51:57,180
Yeah. Yes, that sounds like a
fantastic. Opening the API. We

1766
01:51:57,180 --> 01:52:01,980
talked about this once before.
So this is we talked about this

1767
01:52:01,980 --> 01:52:06,360
probably over a year ago. Is do
we open the API to where it

1768
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:10,860
doesn't need authentication?
Authentication keys? Yes. And,

1769
01:52:11,340 --> 01:52:19,050
and part of that would be
creating also a version two of

1770
01:52:19,050 --> 01:52:23,910
the API that has this fully
restful. So what we have now is

1771
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:27,570
not really a RESTful API. It's,
it's sort of the Hi, Mina like

1772
01:52:27,570 --> 01:52:27,750
this.

1773
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:33,780
So Do do you typically like pain
in your life? Is this why you

1774
01:52:33,780 --> 01:52:37,440
figured this would be a good
project to embark on to open the

1775
01:52:37,440 --> 01:52:40,650
API and aversion to and restful?

1776
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,090
Yes, sounds really easy.

1777
01:52:42,510 --> 01:52:47,610
Yeah. Let me give that up for
you, baby. David. Oh, wow. Okay,

1778
01:52:47,610 --> 01:52:49,530
that is a big one. Well, that's
why I

1779
01:52:49,530 --> 01:52:51,660
want to talk about I want to
talk about don't talk about if

1780
01:52:51,660 --> 01:52:57,930
we want to do it. Everything in
I kind of think we should but I

1781
01:52:57,930 --> 01:53:02,730
want to talk it out. Let's talk
about let's talk let's talk but

1782
01:53:02,730 --> 01:53:03,840
before we do that, yeah.

1783
01:53:04,830 --> 01:53:08,640
Yeah, good idea. Oh, man. This
is this has been a very

1784
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:13,860
successful a boost. sesh boost.
A lot of booster grams. Come

1785
01:53:13,860 --> 01:53:14,190
okay, I

1786
01:53:14,190 --> 01:53:15,000
said, Dev.

1787
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:21,180
Dev, you can have a dev stash.
That's even funnier. Guys, they

1788
01:53:21,180 --> 01:53:24,660
just have a dev stash. It's like
a hackathon. Only cooler.

1789
01:53:25,260 --> 01:53:28,500
A hack. Everything's cooler than
a hackathon. Oh, my

1790
01:53:28,500 --> 01:53:33,540
brother. I know. We're both
tired. But we've covered a lot

1791
01:53:33,540 --> 01:53:34,140
of ground.

1792
01:53:34,980 --> 01:53:37,830
Well, the this shows get the
shows getting more interesting

1793
01:53:37,830 --> 01:53:39,480
when we're tired because they
make less sense.

1794
01:53:39,509 --> 01:53:42,509
Yeah. Do we have some guests
coming in the next few weeks? I

1795
01:53:42,509 --> 01:53:44,549
think it's time to bring in some
people again, don't you think?

1796
01:53:44,699 --> 01:53:47,579
By the way, I saw you like, Oh,
Dan J. Lewis, we need to have

1797
01:53:47,579 --> 01:53:50,009
you on again. Well, you know,
that means he's going to be

1798
01:53:50,039 --> 01:53:53,669
emailing me every week. This
week. Can I be on the show?

1799
01:53:57,810 --> 01:54:03,630
Yeah, we're gonna we need to get
like three days for for people

1800
01:54:03,630 --> 01:54:06,420
to have on the show in the next
next couple of months. Good.

1801
01:54:06,450 --> 01:54:09,540
Good, good, good. Yeah, I've got
I'm starting to line them up now

1802
01:54:09,570 --> 01:54:14,430
started today. But I want it
held off because I didn't know

1803
01:54:14,430 --> 01:54:17,160
what was happening with granting
everything right. But, but now

1804
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:22,110
that that's pretty much yes. I
think we can bring some people

1805
01:54:22,110 --> 01:54:24,420
back in and not have a risk of
having to cancel the last

1806
01:54:24,420 --> 01:54:24,690
second.

1807
01:54:25,019 --> 01:54:28,169
Well, it's I'm glad everything's
well with Grant. I'm glad to

1808
01:54:28,169 --> 01:54:32,399
have you past the hump in, in
the big financial world. And,

1809
01:54:32,819 --> 01:54:35,819
and back on the stick man. And I
mean, I'm in it myself, you

1810
01:54:35,819 --> 01:54:40,199
know, kick my daughter out on
Monday and I'm full time as she

1811
01:54:40,199 --> 01:54:42,809
is she's still there. Yeah,
she's staying here until Monday

1812
01:54:42,839 --> 01:54:44,999
till Monday. Yeah, but she's
great. She cooks she does all

1813
01:54:44,999 --> 01:54:45,929
kinds of cool stuff.

1814
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:47,730
Then I can have you all to
myself, baby.

1815
01:54:47,759 --> 01:54:52,199
Yes, yes. Yes, yes. All right.
You can have me every single

1816
01:54:52,199 --> 01:54:57,119
Friday, David Jones. Have a
great weekend. We'll see you

1817
01:54:57,119 --> 01:54:57,989
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