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podcasting 2.0 for March 4 2020,
to Episode 76 pining for pod pig

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and a whole lot more of course,
if only we could be live. I'd

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love to do it live. Hello
everybody welcome to the

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official board meeting for
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all the brilliance that flows
through podcasts index dot

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social. I'm Adam curry here in
the heart of the Texas Hill

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Country and in Alabama. My
confidants and podcasting

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debutante my friend on the other
end, please say hello to Mr.

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Dave Jones.

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What up world traveler podcast
are everywhere guy?

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Yeah. Hey, I'm everywhere. Yeah,
dude, I went. I went up to

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Beck's place. Glenn Beck's
studio complex in Irving near

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Dallas.

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Yeah, I know nothing about this
because I by by law, by fiat, I

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can not allowed to listen to any
other Adam curry property until

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after this show. Yes. Do not all
I got was it all I know was a

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text from you saying? I'm I'm in
Dallas. Yeah. Circling back. And

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I was like, okay, all right.
I'll wait. I'll wait. I want to

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hear about it when you get back.

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Dude, that's, that's what I was
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stayed with my buddy Vic. So it
was a lot of fun, because he's

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one of my friends from Jersey,
you know, we known each other

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for over 30 years. And so I
stayed at his house and, and he

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went with me, but this Can't he
has this like this complex. Have

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you ever been to Burbank, like,
you know, studios? You know?

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You've been to Universal
Studios. Yeah. Okay. So those

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really, really tall buildings.
He has to have those concrete.

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And yes, good grief is right.
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All kinds of, I mean, just what
really impressive stuff. You

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know, memorabilia movie, things
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And it's just wall to wall
technology, huge studios,

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multiple sets. It's like what
the hell, and I really didn't do

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my homework on him. But the
blaze, you know, they got close

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to a million subscribers and
paying subscribers like 100

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bucks a year. Ooh, let that
settle in for a sec. Yeah.

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100 you can do you can build a
lot of studio space with $100

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million.

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Well, and he has a similar here
use a similar building next

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door, which is I think the tax
strategy where he has a museum.

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And this is him to himself.
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not really open to the public
yet, but it's all you know, long

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rows of tables and
documentation. He has smart kids

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running around who know
everything who are curating and

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documenting. It's like, well,
here's a Christopher Reeve

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Superman suit. Here's a C three
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R two d two. Oh, and over here,
grab a hold of this. Yeah, this

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the handle to Abraham Lincoln's
door, his front door, so give

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that a good rub. And now here's
the Mary Todd Lincoln's dress

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that she wore when she buried a
boy here's the Old Testament in

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the original box it just oh,
here's we think is the first

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electric chair here is an
original Franz Gillick

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guillotine. Here's Roosevelt's
original wheelchair.

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I say the original Old Testament
in a bomb. Yeah, yes.

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I know. In the original box in a
wooden box in the original box.

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I know. It's huge volumes. Let's
do an unboxing of that shit

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right now. That's cool. really
personable guy. He's my age, you

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know. And we had a really nice
conversation hour and a half.

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Which of course was now he
invited me because, you know,

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my, my talking about ESG
environmental, social governance

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and how that relates to the
banking system. And I had kind

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of I have a wrap now on that,
you know, I got a thing that's

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kind of down only up to just a
little bit. He wrote this book,

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The Great reset, where he
explains these things as well.

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And that's the one thing I
always liked about Beck is when

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he was on Fox, that's the last
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know, he's Blackboard and he'd
show you how everything was

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connected. It always ended with
George Soros somehow, you know,

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always. So it was it was nice.
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I haven't heard Glenn. I haven't
heard of Glenn Beck show since

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he was on like, I don't know. Is
he still even on top radio?

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he still does a three hour show.
Yeah, the show is you know, it's

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like talk radio. You can't
listen to too many ads.

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This is probably like, I mean, I
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probably oh gosh, is probably
close to 20 years. It's been a

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time. Yeah, well, this this
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No, is this No Is it are you on
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a podcast? They

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put it on on Blaze TV yesterday.
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and then they put it out as I
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that's on YouTube and And then
podcast on Saturday. Yeah,

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so it's video here on video yes.
Yes not your favorite

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not my favorite but nice that
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to hang in microphones that he
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you've seen it anyway Now we
talked about podcasting 2.0 Yeah

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of course did you oh yeah no, no
I plugged everything I plugged

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mo facts I plugged no agenda
plugged the vortex specifically

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because you know, it gets all
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mention him

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an index card or something like
in your pocket where you're

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like, like crossing them off or
put a check mark, you gotta get

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this this

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dude, I have it in my head and I
plugged food intelligence. You

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know, Texas Slim's beef
initiative. Oh, yeah, no, I plug

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all my boys. Yeah, of course. Of
course. That's that's what I do.

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This is why I'm here.

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Yeah, that's blogger blogger for
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I'm I'm a bit of a plugger so
yeah, it was it was quite

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enjoyable. I'm sure I'll be
invited back on for something

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else or whatever. We'll see.
Quite the operation up there. I

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don't think people realize just
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that museum about though I don't
understand why there's like, it

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just seems like a general
museum. I would have figured you

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said Museum. I'm thinking okay.
Museum to himself, you know, or

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something like that. Like right
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it's he calls it a museum. It's
it's not a museum yet. It's

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they're starting to lay it all
out and stuff. And I'm not quite

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sure what I'm pretty sure of
it's a tax strategy.

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tax strategy.

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Yeah. If you look, if you have
$100 million dollars, non

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profit, okay, whatever. However
it works, and it's fun. Yeah,

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this is like people with lots of
money do like collect cars.

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There's all in you put that in a
museum. There's all kinds of

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reasons to do this. Gotcha. It
doesn't matter, but I'm sure

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he'll open some of that up to
the public at some point. It's a

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hobby lobby guy with the Museum
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But imagine, imagine a Costco.
Yeah, yeah. Okay. That's, that's

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the size of the building. Mm
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It's a Costco that sells. This
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cufflinks.

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It's like, get a compass. You
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things compass. Not a
directional compass.

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Yeah, like a draw like scribe.
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he's telling the story about,
you know, how he, he had it in

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his pocket one day, and he was
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when he was a little nervous
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you tell him the story says this
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And he hands it to me snap, take
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over that spot. He said, you
feel that so he has like it's

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worn down? He says, Yeah, I have
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was rubbing that very spot. That
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said, Can I sit in the electric
chair? He says, no, no, you

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can't do that. Damn. That would
have been cool. Yeah, so we'll

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see. We'll see. I have no idea
the reach of next programming. I

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don't know if we'll get people
showing up. I hope so.

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That's, that's kind of an
interesting idea that you don't

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know the reach. I was listening
to listening to buzz Castile on

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the way home from lunch. And
they were talking about tick

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tock in house some of their
videos again, you know, 1000

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views other ones again, 50,000
views. And I was just thinking

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the whole time. How do you ever
know that? That's real? Oh, you

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don't? Of course not. You have
no idea. It could be completely

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bogus. Like yeah, it's
completely fake and made up

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numbers. Yeah. Yeah, that's just
a sad thought.

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Of course not. You have no idea.

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That's a huge revelation of just
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viewers. Numbers are fake.

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Yeah, well, what's interesting
is when it comes when I when it

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comes to reach like you on
Rogan, a lot of people show up

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from Rogan and a lot of people
have heard about me through my

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Rogan appearances. Megyn Kelly,
zero Nothing, not a single

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thing. And a lot of people watch
it. I know a lot of a lot of

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people watch that and listen to
her. Um, Tom woods, lots of

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people show up lots of
podcasting. 2.0 Hey, what is

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this? What are you guys doing?
You know, he's kind of the

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libertarian guy.

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So there's an audience quality
gets reflected with the kid with

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like the crossover.

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Would you say that? Just say
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So there's like, there's this,
there's the actual you can just

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measure roll number say, Okay,
well, if you imagine this world

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where you can measure every
single person that that had this

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all it is, okay, well, there's
this. There's really truly this

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many people, but then there's
there's the SEC, that doesn't

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necessarily translate into
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they're really interested in
following through. Oh, no,

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no, that's totally dependent
upon the audience. What what

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type of audience and I can I can
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audience may not be that
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Yeah, no, I mean, if they're, if
they're more interested, they

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probably might be more
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than than you. Yes. That's

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why I got by Thanks for Thanks
for rubbing up my face.

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That's not a, that's not a knock
on you, that's I got bumped for

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it. That was my first
appearance. But I'm just doing

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this a lot. There's a lot of
incoming requests, I'm trying to

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pick and choose as much, you
know, smartly as possible. I

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love doing the Bitcoin podcasts
because, you know, they already

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kind of get it.

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You know, you can, so should we
save up? Like have a long term

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goal to save up? Three bitcoins
so that we can become Venezuela

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citizen?

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Oh, yes, of course. We're gonna
go buddy. Yeah, podcast. Yeah.

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moved the whole LLC. Yeah, sure.
No, I'm all in but you know, we

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have to have six if we're both
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Yeah, cuz come well, companies
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thinking we make they

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made the company person make
personnel Salvadorian. Okay, I'm

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all for that.

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Yeah. And then we'll just have,
you know, what, have housing

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down there that we visit.

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And the way to help us reach
this lofty goal is by getting a

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new podcast app, but new podcast
apps.com. Boost us we need to

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boost boost us to El Salvador

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in some time around when we're
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you know, I was looking as a you
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in the morning is podcasts index
dot social. In fact, that's, you

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know, how your browser
prioritizes what you look at me,

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I It's always number one. You'd
see what's going on. Interesting

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stuff happening. You seem to be
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stuff.

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Yeah, it's I'm in cleanup mode,
sort of. I'm trying I'm testing

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out and it's not so far this has
been a complete is not working.

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What's not working? No cleanup
your cleanup? Project?

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No, this this, this, this thing
I'm about to tell you is not

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worked out. Okay. What I've been
trying to say I've gotten

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multiple priorities. So I've got
the namespace. The index is what

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you might call ancillary
software, like, like hello pad.

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And then you and then the just
the podcast. So I'm trying to

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figure in well, I just really
probably one more is. So social

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contract. What I'm trying to do
is separate and have like one

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week dedicated to namespace This
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witching just sucks me dry.
Right? If I have to do like five

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different things in one day that
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unity. You need headspace for
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lightning shit, you're in
different headspace. Yeah, yeah,

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no, I totally get that. I have
that problem, too. With all the

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codes. I love the coding. I do.

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It's really annoying. I know
that about you? Yes. Especially

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between languages. Yeah. Oh, my
goodness, the switches so hard.

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And so trying to figure out if I
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each month to namespace another
the next week to API the next

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week to index in the next week
to you know, something like

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other software under

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Raja. How's that working out for
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Yeah, it's a disaster. It's
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I'm sorry to hear that. Thing is
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somehow.

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Yeah, I started the week like,
Okay, this is namespace week.

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And I haven't looked at the
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this is what I have with to do
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definitely the place where tasks
go to die. You know, and yeah,

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and just and they just hang
there, and they sit there and

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then what you do, like, I'll
start a new to do list,

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because once you put it on the
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accomplished accomplished

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something. Yes, exactly. This is
exactly the problem. Right.

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Okay. Well, how can I how can I
make that easier for you, Dave?

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I know it's nothing. I don't
think it's anything you can do.

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I just have to actually follow
through on my plans.

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Well, I mean, you you you have
read The Seven Habits of Highly

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Effective People.

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No, hell no, I've

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not read that. You've never
looked at GTD

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cheat? Get things done. Yeah.
No, because get

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thing get things done. I do I
follow the get things done

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method with the freedom
controller without lines.

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So what is it? What is it's
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it's just a method of having
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you're going to prioritize and
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And then you know, with the if
you if you combine that kind of

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with the seven habits of highly
effective people you get, so

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it's kind of a toolkit of a work
methodology. You can take little

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bits and pieces of it but
personally, getting things done

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and you can get, I mean, there's
all kinds of outliner based

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things that will do it but the
freedom controllers perfect For

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that,

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this is the thing. Well, the
thing that I'm most need to get

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in most, that's a dangerous
work. Yeah, the thing that is

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annoying me the most right now
is is the aggro is the

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aggregator. So the aggregator
split into two parts, you got a

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polar and a parser. And they run
pair, they run parallel. And

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there's there's eight of them
currently, they they are all

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pulling feeds and parsing them
in parallel, right? The the, the

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polar part of that is called
aggravate in it as a node. js

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script. Yeah. And it's a big
mess. It was written back at the

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time of node 12. And I've been
carrying it forward, we're now

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on like Node 17. Or send us like
five versions back. Yeah. And

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the since then, the main library
request library, HTTP Polar

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Library that it uses is just
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has been deprecated. It's no
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development. Yeah, the bug fixes
don't get get done. It's slowly

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breaking over time, it is slowly
getting more and more unable to

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handle modern quirks within
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so that, like it doesn't, I've
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1.3 issues where it just kill
you

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had one the other day, where did
you someone's couldn't

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authenticate with there was not
it, I saw something come into

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the email, application issues,

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we there was something with,
well, and I still haven't

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figured this out, it's something
buried deep in this library,

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where there's one seed out
there, that that just won't, it

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doesn't seem to SSL handshake
correctly. And I can't, I can't

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figure it out. And I've been
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days and stuff, I've, um, I've
started laying out a new

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aggregate a new puller. And so
I've got it framed like

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wireframe, and it's a rust app
and that kind of thing. So I

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feel like that's the direction I
want to go. And it's working

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well so far. But now what I need
to do is figure out a way, the

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conceptual work for this is
going to be to make it not touch

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the database. If, like, ever, if
all possible, what I really

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wanted to do is just pull the
list of feeds from the database

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in my database initially, and
then never touch it again. And

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and then let the parser
takeover, parse out everything

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and let it update the database.
Because currently, what's

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happening is the puller and the
parser are both touching the

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database a bunch. So if there's
a, if you're, if it goes out

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there to pull a feed, and it
ends up with a 301, redirect,

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then it then it stops, updates
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301, then tries to follow the
redirect, and then comes back.

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And if that if that worked, then
it updates the database with

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with a success, time code and
all this kind of stuff. There's

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all this stuff in order to keep
if if last modified since header

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headers and all this kind of
stuff in shape. So what I really

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want this new version to do is
essentially pull the feed or

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attempt to describe all the
things that happened in that

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attempt into the feed file that
has the content

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and the logic, the logic is in
there, even right now if the

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parser has to get anything,

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right and then the parser can
pick it up and either parse it

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or not, and update the database
accordingly with what it found

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in the

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file. You know, you need. You
need an intern. And you do you

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need an intern? You do need an
intern to help you with your

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busy schedule. I can I find an
intern for you.

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Sure. Yeah, absolutely. As Kim
cannot pay them nothing and

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awesome around and they can feel
like crap.

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As I said an intern this is
exactly this is college credit

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kid. What's your problem? This
is this is experience. This is

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in fact, in fact, you should be
paying us

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exposure, this exposure.

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Exposure, it's good for your
exposure. Mm hmm. Okay, that's

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what I'm right now pod ping is
kind of outside of this, but the

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more pod ping the less. We need
to rely on this type of system.

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Correct.

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Okay, yeah. If I could talk, if
I could tell this guy I know Dan

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Benjamin into supporting pod
thing, then my life would be

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even easier. hours a week. Let's
go

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find this guy. I saw him show up
in a press release today. Or

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yesterday, I think Yeah. And I'm
like, What is he doing? And why

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hasn't he requested our
permission to go and do this

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before he went off. Fincher,
welcome to the board. Meeting a

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board member we've had here
before. We always appreciate him

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coming by fellow Texan. Ladies
and gentlemen, say hello to Mr.

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Dan Benjamin.

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Hey, thanks, guys. Thanks. You
know, it's always honored to be

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here. I appreciate it.

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That's right. Hi guys. Like
Like, smash that like button

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subscribe. There you go.

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You're the Joan Rivers,
podcasting. 2.00

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I am wonderful. I'll take it. I
think I can go with that.

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Dan, man, Dan, Dan the man so it
was just coincidental that we

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had just scheduled for today or
did we pick you up for the most

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recent announcement?

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I mean, I think both I think
there's a little element of both

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in life there everything is a
mystery. So but I'm you know,

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I'm glad to be here. We
definitely have some cool stuff

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to talk about. And um, it was
just perfect timing. I think you

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guys had the the opening and,
and Dave hit me up and he's

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like, You gotta come on. I'm
like these course I'll be on

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course I'll be on so.

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So Dan, is the founder and CEO
of fireside.fm. And Mark Cuban

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works for him. Whatever happened
to that Cubans thing, and no one

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gave a shit about that Dude,
that was just just went away.

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No, it didn't go away. It sees
they're still using it. They're

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still out there doing stuff with
it raising raising big money

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signing up. Really NFL? Yes,
it's not. It's not. It's not

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great. No.

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Is it close is a closed system.
I mean, are these NFL podcasts?

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I have no idea. I don't know
what they're doing over what

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happened to the name dispute.
How did that get settled? Still?

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It's not settled. Oh, man. It's
still happening. It's you know,

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I don't know. I don't know about
you. But like, the prospect of

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going after a, like a multi
billionaire. You know, isn't

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thrilling?

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Well, I did it. I did. I
countersued MTV over mtv.com.

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And it wasn't, it was very
scary. Yeah, the legal fees were

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insane. Yes, I'm talking. I'm
talking $200,000. Sure. And that

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was 1992. Yes, it's now that's
crazy. Yeah. How's how's the

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real fight? How's the og
fireside.fm? Doing?

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It's going really well, you
know, there. There's, there's

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features in the works. And it's
just it's slow. Because, you

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know, I'm doing I'm doing other
things as we're going to talk

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about and so it you know, I have
I have people helping me. And

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that's,

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do you have internal interns?

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Don't have interns that I can
boss around? And what was meant?

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Nothing? Yeah, pay? No, no, I
pay I pay a lot.

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So where are you on? I'm just
gonna drill you until we get to

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the meat and potatoes here.
Where are you on namespace

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integration? What are you doing
on that?

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I really good. I'm behind a
little bit. Now. I was in the

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lead for a while adopt anytime,
Dave would date or a dream of a

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feature? And I would have it
implemented before he could?

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Yes. But good old days before
you found venture capital.

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Yeah, and I'm not in that quite
of a fast Mo. But working on it.

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I want to be 100% compliant to
the namespace. And that's the

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goal. And I'm committing to that
guys publicly committing to it.

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Oh,

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okay. So carefully what more I
can do for you. Time code.

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Now you you've been a great a
great supporter, Dan, really

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appreciate I know

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what you're doing. And we're
freeing it, we're freeing it

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from our corporate overlords
over at Apple podcasts and

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Spotify, who I like both of
those companies for different

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reasons. And I have problems
about those companies for

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different reasons. But I think
that I think that overall,

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having something like this is,
this is exactly why I made

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fireside in the first place
because supporting independent

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podcasters supporting people
that are out there, just just

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trying to have fun with this in
this space and trying to do

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something that it's important
and meaningful. And not, you

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know, having a standard out
there having an index out there

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is so nice. It's so so, so cool.
And you guys have built the

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right kind of API, and it's it's
self aware. It's a living thing.

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And I love that about it. So
yeah, I'm all behind.

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Thank you. And what I realize
myself a day or two ago is, you

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know, just looking at how well
you can do with with booster

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grams, but also really the
independence and the reliability

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of podcasts and 2.0. That, you
know, as an industry, we kind of

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think of things like, well, you
know, you're not as big as

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Apple, you're not as big as
Spotify, you know, you don't

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register. But that's not really
the point. The point is, we have

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an uninterrupted flow. We have
features that people want, it

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could take five more years
before, you know, these apps

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really and this type of function
could take 10 years I don't know

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before the functionality is
generally accepted and expected.

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But we'll get there that it
doesn't have to be like this.

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Oh, well. You know, we'll never
be bigger than Apple who gives a

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shit, right? Anybody who wants
to feature anybody podcasts who

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tells their audience, Hey, you
want to support me this way? Or

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do you want to see chapters this
way, their audience will

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eventually go get an app. They
will. That's just how it works.

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That's how it's always worked. I
mean, the person the first,

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arguably the first app was an
AppleScript gear, download this

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figured out.

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Here's the thing I've been
thinking about. And I think I

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read and this was the week of
to, like, the two stupidest

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articles I've read in like
years. What one was this? This

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article about? The whole
internet's gonna become a

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podcast,

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wrote this, I need to

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I don't even know somebody in
Forbes. It was so stupid. And

440
00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:47,340
then but the other one was, this
other article said, the guy's

441
00:25:47,340 --> 00:25:51,090
basic premise was the apple
podcast app sucks, but I'm but

442
00:25:51,090 --> 00:25:55,350
I'm never gonna stop using it.
Oh, what was that about? It was

443
00:25:55,380 --> 00:26:00,090
essentially like this weird
diatribe about how it's hard to

444
00:26:00,090 --> 00:26:03,390
stop using something once you
have some inertia. And even

445
00:26:03,390 --> 00:26:05,760
though it's it's this horrible
thing that makes my life

446
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,030
miserable. I'm just never gonna
stop using Oh, did

447
00:26:09,030 --> 00:26:10,470
James Kirtland write this?

448
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:16,500
No, no, no. This was somebody
from? I can't I can't even

449
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:18,480
remember. I don't even remember.
I've got it. Actually, you know

450
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,420
what I've ever printed out. I
shouldn't have to remember

451
00:26:21,420 --> 00:26:26,160
things. I printed them. Yes. And
it's from Fast Company. That's

452
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,480
where it's wrong. Okay. So
anyway, the so here's, here's

453
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:36,780
what I was thinking. The problem
here with a lot of things,

454
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,470
there's there's always this
chicken and egg problem of new

455
00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:45,870
features. And he has some, he
knows some apps that wait for

456
00:26:45,870 --> 00:26:48,870
the for the hosts, and then some
hosts that wait for the apps and

457
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:57,750
his chicken and egg. What Why
can't we start a industry why a

458
00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:03,630
campaign that's that's the word
I'm looking for a PR campaign of

459
00:27:04,170 --> 00:27:06,390
get a decent podcast app.

460
00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:12,030
A modern I prefer modern, modern
day modern podcast app. I've

461
00:27:12,060 --> 00:27:15,660
been saying this for months and
months. And some people pick it

462
00:27:15,660 --> 00:27:19,410
up a little bit. Actually, Dream
James Cridland uses that very

463
00:27:19,410 --> 00:27:20,010
often.

464
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:23,640
It's the meaning people it was
the

465
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,460
podcast is the podcasters ship,
that's if you want to help

466
00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:31,350
podcasting 2.0 You need to
remind your listeners to get a

467
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:34,110
modern podcast app. And that's
why we have new podcast apps

468
00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:34,680
calm.

469
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:38,190
I feel like there needs to be
this PR component to it where

470
00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:43,980
people feel like they they're
getting like their their money

471
00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:47,700
missing out like like a FOMO if
they don't also say like this

472
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:50,670
whole thing of, you know, get
get to show wherever you get

473
00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:53,850
your podcast, that became a
thing because it other people

474
00:27:53,850 --> 00:27:57,840
were doing it. If we if we make
it popular to say, Get out, you

475
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,930
know, don't use don't use a
crappy podcast app get a better

476
00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:01,170
here's

477
00:28:01,170 --> 00:28:04,110
what I do. If you want to ensure
that the next time you listen to

478
00:28:04,110 --> 00:28:06,930
the no agenda show that you
actually get it on your podcast

479
00:28:06,930 --> 00:28:10,320
app, and it's updated within 60
seconds of me releasing it and

480
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,860
you want all these cool new
features, get a modern podcast

481
00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:19,650
app, a new podcast apps calm but
also the apps you know, apps

482
00:28:19,650 --> 00:28:22,980
need to be marketing themselves
you know, software that's and

483
00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:25,440
not everyone has that aspiration
by the way, not everybody

484
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,230
aspires to going out of
marketing their app, but the

485
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:30,750
ones that do see success

486
00:28:31,650 --> 00:28:35,760
Well, it's not just podcasting
2.0 apps to its I was the

487
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,410
broader indie independent
podcast app ecosystem so I mean,

488
00:28:40,410 --> 00:28:43,110
that's that's for us addict and

489
00:28:43,410 --> 00:28:45,990
then and for us it's hard when
people ask me all the time, what

490
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:47,940
do you recommend? I can't
recommend anything that's not

491
00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:51,540
fair. Yeah, go Tron. And I like
them all for different reasons.

492
00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:55,530
Honestly. I use five six apps
continuously.

493
00:28:56,250 --> 00:29:01,680
Same now but yeah, I feel I felt
like we can make a dent in this

494
00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:06,930
behemoth of apple pie. I go back
keep going back to this example

495
00:29:06,930 --> 00:29:11,790
of Google Chrome that never
ships on any computer all these

496
00:29:11,820 --> 00:29:15,060
this this dominant market share
that Google Chrome has grown

497
00:29:15,060 --> 00:29:15,390
because

498
00:29:15,390 --> 00:29:18,240
people point that's a huge
point.

499
00:29:19,230 --> 00:29:24,060
Dan, you're a marketing guy.
What do we do? Dance Dance more

500
00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:26,820
marketing guy they you know
believe me damn it when I say

501
00:29:26,820 --> 00:29:27,960
that I'm sincere. I'm

502
00:29:28,260 --> 00:29:32,850
not the reason I laugh because
I'm the only things that me and

503
00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:37,530
Dan have ever done together have
been dismal failures. How about

504
00:29:37,530 --> 00:29:40,110
that you add that user ID about
this?

505
00:29:40,140 --> 00:29:42,660
I mean, you know it's been
picked up by everyone it's

506
00:29:42,690 --> 00:29:46,950
supported across the industry
universally and you know, we're

507
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:50,520
getting our we should be getting
our Platinum our check for that.

508
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,020
Yeah, and the check to check
Yeah, where's that? Um, I don't

509
00:29:55,020 --> 00:29:58,140
know what you guys I don't know.
Because the thing is, you know,

510
00:29:58,170 --> 00:30:01,320
if you if you look at the stats,
and I'm I see stats all the time

511
00:30:01,350 --> 00:30:04,590
with the fireside stuff and I'm
seeing them in our spooler stuff

512
00:30:04,590 --> 00:30:09,270
to some degree. It's I mean, it
really is overwhelmingly still

513
00:30:09,270 --> 00:30:13,290
like everybody, stupid.
Everybody uses Apple podcasts

514
00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:16,860
like it's, it's there on your
phone. And it's that's the the

515
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,730
really at the end of the day, it
comes down to that. And the

516
00:30:20,730 --> 00:30:23,940
difference is that
discriminating people will say,

517
00:30:23,970 --> 00:30:26,160
Well, I'm going to try a
different app for this, or my

518
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,800
friend said to try this one, or
I'm already using a different

519
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,780
one. And they don't care what's
on their phone, when they take

520
00:30:30,780 --> 00:30:33,390
it out of the box, you know, and
you're to your point about

521
00:30:33,390 --> 00:30:37,560
Chrome. Yeah, people have to go
and download Chrome. And they

522
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,500
have to know to do that. And I'm
always a little bit surprised

523
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:45,150
when someone that I consider to
be kind of an Normie, or a new,

524
00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:48,480
you know, somebody who's just a
regular human being has chrome

525
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,240
on their Mac, for example, and
they're not using Safari that

526
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,710
always throws me a little bit,
you know,

527
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:56,280
but we have so again, it doesn't
matter to me that most people

528
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,580
listen on Apple. In fact, the
more apple breaks, the more

529
00:30:59,580 --> 00:31:02,850
people choose the modern podcast
app, I have it every single day.

530
00:31:03,210 --> 00:31:06,360
It's like, Oh, it didn't, you
didn't upload it to Apple, okay.

531
00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:11,730
Go get it, go get it over here.
Doesn't doesn't really matter to

532
00:31:11,730 --> 00:31:14,160
me. And it doesn't it overall,
doesn't matter. We have the

533
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,980
connective tissue, I believe.
And it just it's taking time,

534
00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:23,490
but it's taking off of the value
for value streaming payments.

535
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,520
That's what binds everybody
together. incentivize

536
00:31:26,550 --> 00:31:30,960
incentivizes the entire
ecosystem. And we're moving

537
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,530
towards that. It's just time.
It's just time. And this size

538
00:31:34,530 --> 00:31:37,380
doesn't matter. But Apple be the
number one, lots of people drive

539
00:31:37,410 --> 00:31:39,090
ugly ass shit cars, too.

540
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:45,990
Well, now the the Google Chrome
analogy, I think it kind of

541
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:50,100
bears out what it what it means
to be cool. Give me

542
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:52,800
a pretending like because Google
doesn't have a marketing budget

543
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,380
for that. How about the search
engines? I mean, there's all

544
00:31:55,380 --> 00:31:59,100
kinds of there was on both
sides. It's on both sides. It's

545
00:31:59,100 --> 00:31:59,460
you know,

546
00:31:59,790 --> 00:32:02,100
you want it but but the
marketing the marketing budget

547
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:05,520
for Chrome? See, I don't think
that's where they won. Because

548
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,790
Mike, Microsoft has marketing
budgets to it that at one time

549
00:32:08,790 --> 00:32:12,090
were much bigger than Google.
And what I'm saying is, I think

550
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:19,290
the chrome one, because it
became uncool. To use Internet

551
00:32:19,290 --> 00:32:23,910
Explorer, that's a very valid
point. It became like you were

552
00:32:23,940 --> 00:32:26,790
you were a loser. You're
considered to be like an old,

553
00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:30,240
like an old, you know, like an
old person. Like, it wasn't like

554
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,030
Facebook, Facebook or whatever.
Oh, you still use Facebook? I

555
00:32:33,030 --> 00:32:35,910
mean, that's like, I would never
use that. Yeah, right now,

556
00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:39,540
right. So somehow, somehow
there, there has to be this,

557
00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:43,830
this cool factor that, that that
happens and, you know, clear

558
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:46,860
clearly. I know everything I'm
talking about with marketing. So

559
00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:52,050
that we have we have 15 cool
factor features. You know, some

560
00:32:52,050 --> 00:32:56,730
nerdy Well, chapters is a real
thing. I mean, chapters is

561
00:32:56,730 --> 00:32:59,940
something being being discussed.
Let's talk about spooler right

562
00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:05,040
now. And by the way, James Oh,
bogs didn't contact me and asked

563
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,010
me to be a part of this
wonderful venture. I'm so

564
00:33:08,010 --> 00:33:11,460
disciplined. I'll take it up
with him. So disappointed. How

565
00:33:11,460 --> 00:33:14,130
did this come? What is spooler?
How this come together? Dan?

566
00:33:14,130 --> 00:33:16,770
What? Give us some details.

567
00:33:16,830 --> 00:33:23,220
Yes. So um, so I think it was
like the original idea was fully

568
00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:26,640
I think, fully formed before
they before they found me and

569
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,710
this was the, the founders or
Andy Bowers, James bhagsu

570
00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:36,960
mentioned and Henry Blodgett
who, who runs insider comm. And

571
00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:40,080
they had this concept, I think
they called it something like,

572
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,980
like, like always on audio news,
or something like that. But the

573
00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:48,210
idea behind it was really, the
idea that you could have, you

574
00:33:48,210 --> 00:33:52,890
know, podcasts are, are
primarily used for things later,

575
00:33:52,890 --> 00:33:55,470
right, like, oh, the big now,
whatever the Big Apple event,

576
00:33:55,470 --> 00:33:57,330
and then we're going to talk
about it later or whatever.

577
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,570
Because it's difficult to get
that kind of immediacy and

578
00:34:00,570 --> 00:34:04,170
urgency around a podcast. Now,
when you record because your

579
00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:07,140
background is in broadcasting,
you've got a really, really

580
00:34:07,140 --> 00:34:09,690
great workflow that lets you
record something. And

581
00:34:09,690 --> 00:34:13,110
essentially, like, it's live to
tape, you can you can publish

582
00:34:13,110 --> 00:34:17,580
the thing almost immediately.
But, you know, even even

583
00:34:17,580 --> 00:34:21,480
something like that. It's, it's
a different technology, a

584
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,720
different technique than the way
that news companies are really

585
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:29,160
organized and set up to run. And
so the idea was, maybe we could

586
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,930
use the kind of content
insertion, I won't call it ad

587
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:37,620
insertion, because that limits
the concept of what it is. But

588
00:34:37,770 --> 00:34:41,610
that that same technology that's
used for dynamic ad insertion in

589
00:34:41,610 --> 00:34:44,700
a lot of podcasts, couldn't we
use something like that to

590
00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:48,960
create content that's based on
stories, news stories that are

591
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,440
breaking and that are updating?
So what you have is you have

592
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,120
this concept of a new story or a
new segment. And and so the

593
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,540
example you might use is like
Biden is going to In the nuclear

594
00:35:00,540 --> 00:35:03,420
summit, Biden is attending the
nuclear summit, Biden attended

595
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:05,400
the nuclear summit. And I had
this to say about it. Well,

596
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,760
technically, that's one story,
right? That's a lifecycle of a

597
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:15,360
single, a single story. And
maybe there's a way to take that

598
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,070
story. And automatically as the
story gets updated, essentially,

599
00:35:20,460 --> 00:35:25,200
publish that. But have it be
part of a bigger set of news

600
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,840
stories that in other words,
isn't is an episode of a

601
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,350
podcast. But then as these
individual stories get updated,

602
00:35:31,470 --> 00:35:34,620
the episode can be republished,
some of the content is brand

603
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:37,500
new, some of it is being
updated. And so you get this

604
00:35:37,530 --> 00:35:40,170
almost like a river of news.
That was kind of the original

605
00:35:40,410 --> 00:35:44,640
concept. And so the, you know,
using those tools to do that,

606
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,910
that means that you can have
different reporters or different

607
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:50,580
voice talent or different
content creators in different

608
00:35:50,580 --> 00:35:53,460
places. They're all saying, Oh,
here's a news story, they can

609
00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:58,080
record that thing and publish
it. And then it gets updated

610
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:03,270
within this larger episode, this
larger podcast, and that's kind

611
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:07,320
of the, you know, the the
genesis of this idea and just

612
00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:12,780
does a new episode each time or
you, you, you pick up the same

613
00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:14,700
episode, each time is different.

614
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:18,630
Yeah, you're getting essentially
because of the way that that

615
00:36:18,690 --> 00:36:21,930
gives you IDs work behind the
scenes in order for podcast

616
00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:26,040
clients to actually get that
update. Right? It needs to be a

617
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,220
new episode, otherwise, the
people would only ever hear

618
00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:32,640
those updates, if they, so maybe
you ask him what kind of spec

619
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,060
for this. But, you know, because
right now, the thing that

620
00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:39,840
triggers a podcast client to
download something is that

621
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,890
different grid, that's what it
says to them, I've got something

622
00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:46,200
new to download, it's not
published date, it's not

623
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,440
anything yet. It's not the
title. It's that grid. So in

624
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,500
order to push new content out,
we've got to update that well.

625
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,780
So that's where kind of the
genesis of this embeddable

626
00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:59,370
player that is really useful for
a news organization is, and that

627
00:36:59,370 --> 00:37:02,790
is we use a completely different
mechanism to update these

628
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:06,090
players. But the idea is that
you go to the website, in this

629
00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:08,640
case, it would be insider, but
could be any, any news website,

630
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,760
any website, you would go to
that. And there's going to be a

631
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,190
player that's going to be
automatically updating itself,

632
00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:16,890
whenever there's new content and
showing you what's new. So

633
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:20,190
alright, so hold on, he calls
let me understand something. So

634
00:37:20,220 --> 00:37:24,300
yeah, part of the strategy is
you have a specialized player,

635
00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:27,870
which is necessary for the way
it works. And how do we make

636
00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:30,930
this work on podcasting? 2.0?
Can we make that work? What can

637
00:37:30,930 --> 00:37:34,470
we do? Is that a pod ping thing?
How do we accomplish this?

638
00:37:34,739 --> 00:37:37,709
Yeah, I mean, I think it could
very well be because, you know,

639
00:37:37,769 --> 00:37:41,999
again, the RSS feeds with the
right kind of tags in them.

640
00:37:42,179 --> 00:37:45,239
Maybe there's a way, I don't
know. But it would be really

641
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,239
great. If there was some other
trigger that could say read

642
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,379
download this episode. And Mark,
it is new. I don't know I

643
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:54,989
haven't given that a ton of
thought, but but

644
00:37:54,989 --> 00:37:57,419
we get we've gotten, we've
gotten you know, we've refreshed

645
00:37:57,419 --> 00:38:00,869
refresh the metadata now on
every on every poll. So if

646
00:38:00,869 --> 00:38:04,829
something has changed within the
feed, like, so, we're looking at

647
00:38:04,829 --> 00:38:09,539
the item details themselves. And
if one of those item details has

648
00:38:09,539 --> 00:38:14,939
changed, it will trigger sort of
a refresh in the database. So it

649
00:38:14,939 --> 00:38:18,929
sounds to me, like, what's
happening is there's a lot of

650
00:38:18,929 --> 00:38:20,849
and this is why I wanted to have
you on because I wanted to get

651
00:38:20,849 --> 00:38:25,559
through this whole topic. The it
sounds to me like what is be

652
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:30,299
critical for this is pod paying
support. Yeah. Because Because

653
00:38:30,299 --> 00:38:34,019
when, you know, every time the
feed or something in the feed

654
00:38:34,019 --> 00:38:37,859
changes, or the audio enclosure
changes, or something, there

655
00:38:37,859 --> 00:38:41,939
needs to be if it can happen, so
if it can happen really quickly,

656
00:38:42,479 --> 00:38:47,099
like within hours, rather than
you know, then is we really need

657
00:38:47,099 --> 00:38:49,979
to be getting, like some kind of
trigger that says, okay,

658
00:38:49,979 --> 00:38:51,419
something changed, something
changed something.

659
00:38:51,450 --> 00:38:55,290
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
And you know, with RSS feeds,

660
00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:58,260
you know, there's some, you need
something like, like popping,

661
00:38:58,260 --> 00:39:00,600
you need something like that.
And that's absolutely something

662
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,440
that they want to

663
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:04,920
do. Damn. So let me just
understand the business here. Is

664
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,060
this intended for news
organizations to use spooler? Or

665
00:39:09,060 --> 00:39:13,170
is the you see this as a
consumer product? What exactly

666
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,020
is the product? Yeah,

667
00:39:16,110 --> 00:39:19,410
so yes, the answer to your
question is yes to both things

668
00:39:19,410 --> 00:39:23,640
right now for sure. 100% This is
something that news

669
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,810
organizations would do when
we've had like crazy interest,

670
00:39:28,050 --> 00:39:31,410
but they they love this because
what this means is typically

671
00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:34,350
especially news organizations
that have like a radio arm

672
00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:39,360
already, they can get rid of
people. Well, probably, but what

673
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,670
they what they're doing is
they're generating sometimes

674
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:44,490
hundreds of news stories, and
they're essentially they're

675
00:39:44,490 --> 00:39:47,220
sending those to their
affiliates. And their affiliates

676
00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:49,470
are like taking the ones they
want but when they're editing

677
00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:51,720
them down into a radio show or
whatever they're doing it's

678
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,690
there's like it's editing like
it's legit like they're Embroid

679
00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:57,660
God Pro Tools or whatever. And
they're they're editing stuff

680
00:39:57,660 --> 00:40:00,780
together. And with this
solution, it's all programmatics

681
00:40:00,780 --> 00:40:03,390
when you're listening to
something that spelers created,

682
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:06,900
we're doing everything behind
the scenes. We're taking those

683
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:09,390
different news stories, what we
call segments, and we're

684
00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:11,850
organizing them. And you can you
can just by dragging and

685
00:40:11,850 --> 00:40:14,010
dropping, you can pick them, you
can pick the order.

686
00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:17,460
They get a CMS that they put,
yes,

687
00:40:17,490 --> 00:40:21,030
yes. And then there's this river
within the CMS of oh, here's all

688
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:23,430
the stories I can choose from, I
can put them in the order that I

689
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:25,980
want. I can put little sound
effects in there. I can put in

690
00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:29,820
themes. I can have looping music
beds, I can do intros, outros, I

691
00:40:29,820 --> 00:40:33,750
can do ad insertion, obviously.
And when I hit that publish

692
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:38,220
button, it's going to take all
of that build an mp3, it's going

693
00:40:38,220 --> 00:40:41,640
to, you know, completely sweeten
the audio with the Dolby stuff.

694
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,670
And then it's going to publish
it both to the player and to the

695
00:40:44,670 --> 00:40:48,510
RSS feed. And so the player has
a different feed that it uses.

696
00:40:48,510 --> 00:40:52,050
It's not RSS, it's JSON, that
just a custom JSON that we use

697
00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:55,980
to power the player. And then
the RSS feed, it gets updated.

698
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:59,340
And of course, we're doing
chapters and everything else

699
00:40:59,340 --> 00:41:02,010
that you would normally do do an
mp3 file and delivering it down.

700
00:41:02,010 --> 00:41:02,310
Yeah.

701
00:41:02,819 --> 00:41:06,119
How about podcasts in 2.0
chapters? Can we get some

702
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:07,649
namespace for this?

703
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,170
That is very high on the list,
the next thing that we're

704
00:41:10,170 --> 00:41:10,740
working on,

705
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,420
the pod thing has got to be
critical in here. Yeah,

706
00:41:15,419 --> 00:41:19,829
we can we can, because what it
does, excuse me that the way I

707
00:41:19,829 --> 00:41:22,529
see it is it would help you with
your consumer part of the

708
00:41:22,529 --> 00:41:25,169
business, which is it seems
undeveloped as of yet.

709
00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:28,590
Yes. By His name secret or just
secret secret?

710
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:34,349
Oh, I'm sorry. I need to say,
Wow, I'm under NDA. Oh, I wish I

711
00:41:34,349 --> 00:41:41,129
could tell you all the secret.
I'd love you, Todd. The, you

712
00:41:41,129 --> 00:41:44,159
know, we can immediately you
know, depending on support, but

713
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:47,999
I don't see why not. It you
know, we can make a lot of this

714
00:41:47,999 --> 00:41:51,179
into the new apps. And you would
have a consumer play right

715
00:41:51,179 --> 00:41:54,839
there. I would love that. Yeah,
we and by the way, Dave, they're

716
00:41:54,839 --> 00:41:58,589
looking for a senior software
engineer, you would like to be

717
00:41:58,619 --> 00:42:00,869
early applicant, I can click
here apply. And

718
00:42:01,590 --> 00:42:04,260
they can't they can't afford me.
I don't think

719
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:07,500
so. You're right. So how did you
get involved in this, Dan? I

720
00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:10,080
mean, yeah, because you're the
chief technology officer. Of

721
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,630
course, we all we all know,
James, I guess you knew him a

722
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:13,680
bit better than me.

723
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:18,119
James, it's all because of
James. So um, James, James left

724
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:21,329
Apple. And I think he was, you
know, just figuring out what he

725
00:42:21,329 --> 00:42:24,929
wanted to do next. And after,
after he reached out to me, I

726
00:42:24,929 --> 00:42:27,749
was just kind of I had seen the
tweet that he made when he was

727
00:42:27,749 --> 00:42:30,509
leaving apple. And I said, Hey,
man, I said, whatever you're

728
00:42:30,509 --> 00:42:34,079
doing next, like I want I want
to be part of it. Because I

729
00:42:34,109 --> 00:42:37,259
always enjoyed working with him
at Apple. He was so helpful to

730
00:42:37,259 --> 00:42:38,909
me and to five by five and

731
00:42:39,450 --> 00:42:43,470
fireside was very gracious. Oh,
nice. Oh, absolutely.

732
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:47,130
I mean, and he's one of these
guys that he's just like, when

733
00:42:47,130 --> 00:42:49,980
you meet him in the first five
minutes, like he was so nice.

734
00:42:50,010 --> 00:42:52,680
And like, he's always that nice.
Like, he's just one of these

735
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,490
genuinely kind, nice people
who's enthusiastic about the

736
00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:59,730
stuff you guys are doing and
stuff I've been doing. And so a

737
00:42:59,730 --> 00:43:02,340
little while later, he's like,
Were you serious? When you said

738
00:43:02,340 --> 00:43:04,950
you might want to work on some
with me? I'm like, Yeah, I would

739
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:07,650
love to work on something with
you. And, and so that's when he

740
00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:11,340
introduced me to Andy. And they,
you know, Andy shared what sort

741
00:43:11,340 --> 00:43:16,890
of his vision was and he's been
in, he's like, og podcaster. You

742
00:43:16,890 --> 00:43:20,550
know, he's done so much. And in
in the podcasting space, and

743
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:24,780
really cares about the news is
passionate about the news. And,

744
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:27,240
you know, they, they had this
idea, and they told me what the

745
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:30,150
idea was, and they're like, you
know, do you want to help us

746
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:33,090
build? And I'm like, obviously,
yes, this is amazing. This is

747
00:43:33,090 --> 00:43:36,720
really cool. Because it really
takes it takes podcasting in a

748
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:39,810
direction that I feel like it
always should have been going in

749
00:43:39,810 --> 00:43:42,300
but it but because the
technology maybe wasn't there or

750
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:45,960
whatever. But that is the
immediacy of news, the urgency

751
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,990
of news and, and what's really
cool that I think, Adam, you

752
00:43:48,990 --> 00:43:52,740
would like that behind the
scenes. You know, we talked a

753
00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:57,300
lot about this concept of
defining truth at a specific

754
00:43:57,300 --> 00:44:03,510
moment in time. And what we have
built into this system is that

755
00:44:03,570 --> 00:44:08,190
the news as it's being reported,
essentially, in fact, should be

756
00:44:08,220 --> 00:44:12,120
almost immutable. So you have
almost almost this concept of a

757
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,950
blockchain Nish SNESs in a way
in that it what what it lets you

758
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:19,560
do is when when you're updating
a news story, the previous

759
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,770
version of that news story is
preserved. So you have these

760
00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:25,710
different versions in any update
creates automatically.

761
00:44:26,099 --> 00:44:29,909
No, no, no, no news organization
wants to have that they want to

762
00:44:29,909 --> 00:44:32,039
be able to delete delete the
shit that they know

763
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:34,379
and get rid of. We don't want
that. That's the

764
00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:36,750
but the thing is 1984

765
00:44:37,050 --> 00:44:39,870
I can't have I know but isn't.
Wouldn't that be great if you

766
00:44:39,870 --> 00:44:43,320
could hold people accountable to
the stuff that they said? They

767
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:43,440
were

768
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:50,190
there, Dan? I want your venture
to be successful man. Listen to

769
00:44:50,190 --> 00:44:54,720
your uncle Adam. Now on this
one. We I'd love to support you.

770
00:44:54,750 --> 00:45:00,420
It sounds and I like James. I
secretly I had the feeling He

771
00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:03,090
felt that podcasting was in good
hands and he could leave and let

772
00:45:03,090 --> 00:45:07,110
Apple go fuck it up. Which,
yeah, and that's I've always

773
00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:10,440
felt like okay, the Curry's is
crazy guy, but I think we're

774
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,810
safe there with podcasting in
general. And it's nice to see

775
00:45:15,810 --> 00:45:19,200
when Axel Springer who invested
in the venture, they're serious

776
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,070
people that you know, that's not
that's not a venture capital

777
00:45:23,070 --> 00:45:26,550
play. That's that's a real
that's a real organization

778
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:30,450
broadcast organization that
understands this news, etc. Now,

779
00:45:30,450 --> 00:45:33,390
I will say like Russian to the
Germans do always want their

780
00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:35,310
money back. So beware.

781
00:45:38,909 --> 00:45:42,989
I'm looking at the podcast feed
forum in my right and in

782
00:45:42,989 --> 00:45:46,199
understanding that there's only
one feed right now.

783
00:45:46,349 --> 00:45:49,829
Correct. There is there is a
refresh. Mm hmm. That is the

784
00:45:49,859 --> 00:45:54,299
that is the big show that has
come out of of the Insider. And

785
00:45:54,299 --> 00:45:57,329
that was our they're the first
folks that we're working with.

786
00:45:57,329 --> 00:46:01,949
But there the plan, of course,
would be to have every, you

787
00:46:01,949 --> 00:46:04,799
know, every news organization in
the world should want to do

788
00:46:04,799 --> 00:46:07,709
this. So they should all come
in, come to us and say we want

789
00:46:07,709 --> 00:46:11,189
that. And you know, and then we
can we can come out.

790
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:14,849
Okay, so then I'm looking at the
feed right now. And what I'm

791
00:46:14,849 --> 00:46:18,749
seeing is there's so when let's
just take this one, for

792
00:46:18,749 --> 00:46:22,709
instance, march 4, Final
Edition, must sets blah, blah,

793
00:46:22,709 --> 00:46:27,569
blah, the title, this item, if
if this gets updated with new

794
00:46:27,569 --> 00:46:32,249
audio, is what in this item is
going to change the GU ID or

795
00:46:32,249 --> 00:46:35,189
just the or decal enclosure? Or
is there anything visible that

796
00:46:35,189 --> 00:46:35,729
changes?

797
00:46:35,969 --> 00:46:40,169
They would probably also change
the title. Because they you

798
00:46:40,169 --> 00:46:42,599
know, there's technically you
wouldn't have to change the

799
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:45,479
title, but they typically are so
with each update the way that

800
00:46:45,479 --> 00:46:48,059
they're doing it is I think
they're releasing, you know, a

801
00:46:48,059 --> 00:46:51,389
handful throughout the day. And
I think that, you know, you

802
00:46:51,389 --> 00:46:54,959
know, Will Will it become
hourly? I think it could. But

803
00:46:54,989 --> 00:46:59,519
you know, it's definitely
multiple, multiple per day. And

804
00:46:59,789 --> 00:47:02,699
they typically will change the
title. So depending on how you

805
00:47:02,699 --> 00:47:04,949
wanted to do it, you might have
a morning edition afternoon or

806
00:47:04,949 --> 00:47:07,649
an evening, what they call the
final addition, for the day

807
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,070
two, this will be so sexy with
chapters with links and

808
00:47:11,070 --> 00:47:16,140
transcripts. Oh sexy that your
your customers will love that.

809
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:17,820
I would hope so. Yeah.

810
00:47:17,820 --> 00:47:20,430
So do you have customers yet?
You have you have customers in

811
00:47:20,430 --> 00:47:21,690
the door? Oh,

812
00:47:21,930 --> 00:47:26,220
you know, I can't NDA about it.
I can't talk about but yes. I

813
00:47:26,220 --> 00:47:29,310
mean, yes. There's a lot of
there's tremendous, tremendous

814
00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:31,410
and shocking, shocking interest.

815
00:47:31,710 --> 00:47:35,730
Okay, calm calm down. You're
doing it. You're overshadowing

816
00:47:35,730 --> 00:47:39,540
me, you're overdoing it now.
Damn. It, yes.

817
00:47:39,659 --> 00:47:47,879
Now. Okay. Now, so the URL of
the enclosure does not change.

818
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,160
It does when a new episode is
updated. So that needs a new new

819
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,870
file name in the case so that it
would would change to if they if

820
00:47:57,870 --> 00:48:01,470
they wanted it to. And there's,
you know, it's unfortunate that

821
00:48:01,470 --> 00:48:04,410
that's the only real mechanism
that we have. That's the only

822
00:48:04,410 --> 00:48:04,710
way that

823
00:48:05,250 --> 00:48:09,600
pod ping brother. That's why pod
pig is perfect for this. So if

824
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,150
and all your publishers need to
hit pod ping, and then you're

825
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:12,630
done.

826
00:48:12,989 --> 00:48:16,019
So if we have if we have pod
bacon going and we don't update

827
00:48:16,019 --> 00:48:19,289
the grid, I don't know maybe the
file name updates, will that

828
00:48:19,289 --> 00:48:23,849
cause an redownload to happen in
NUS compliant nines?

829
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:28,349
No? Well, it will, it will tell
comply, it will tell anybody

830
00:48:28,349 --> 00:48:32,639
watching the piping, Blockchain
activity, it will tell them that

831
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:35,459
something in the feed changed.
And they need to go figure out

832
00:48:35,459 --> 00:48:39,059
what it is right. So let's get
going. We'll get going. Yeah,

833
00:48:39,059 --> 00:48:43,769
the way we would do it is going
to be that if if the title

834
00:48:43,769 --> 00:48:47,069
changes, or the feed route URL
changes, or the pub date

835
00:48:47,069 --> 00:48:51,029
changes, anything other than
description, because description

836
00:48:51,389 --> 00:48:54,299
can be dynamic, and it doesn't
mean that anything substantive

837
00:48:54,299 --> 00:48:59,399
changed. So if any of those
other fields, title gwit,

838
00:48:59,429 --> 00:49:02,519
obviously enclosure and pub
date, any of that jazz, if any

839
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:06,959
of that image, URL, any of that
changes, we'll get we'll get the

840
00:49:06,959 --> 00:49:07,589
new copy.

841
00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:12,000
Correct, but can't but can't pod
ping signal. Hey, update to XYZ,

842
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,080
here's what you got to do.

843
00:49:13,710 --> 00:49:16,620
Well, here's here's what, here's
what I want to ask you about

844
00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:22,920
that specific thing. Dan, is
that, like, is there a live

845
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,400
component is going to be part of
spooler?

846
00:49:27,179 --> 00:49:30,059
I mean, I, I think I would like
to build that that's not

847
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:32,729
something we're talking about a
lot. But I would I would love to

848
00:49:32,729 --> 00:49:33,029
okay,

849
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,040
because that that's, it makes
that seems to be the logical

850
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,580
next thing you think of is like
if you're, if it's sort of like

851
00:49:41,580 --> 00:49:45,960
this rapid news update thing,
then you would think that there

852
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,350
might be a sort of live
component where it's like, okay,

853
00:49:49,350 --> 00:49:52,110
I can go live now. And yeah,
here's the thing. Here's a

854
00:49:52,110 --> 00:49:55,380
broadcast and that will be
you'll, when you finish it, it

855
00:49:55,380 --> 00:49:56,760
gets stitched into the audio.

856
00:49:56,789 --> 00:49:59,639
Yeah. Can I use that on our show
yet? Dave? Is it almost ready?

857
00:49:59,999 --> 00:50:00,809
Yeah, yeah. Wait,

858
00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:01,650
I'm waiting on you.

859
00:50:01,710 --> 00:50:04,740
What do you mean? You're waiting
on me? You told me. Don't Don't

860
00:50:04,740 --> 00:50:08,580
do that to me. Seriously? Yeah.
What am I supposed to

861
00:50:08,579 --> 00:50:11,909
do? I think we're good to go. I
don't know what to do. Yeah, but

862
00:50:12,209 --> 00:50:15,509
we get it. We get a cuddle and
talk about Okay.

863
00:50:15,570 --> 00:50:18,000
All right. Well, you haven't
been very cuddly lately, dear.

864
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,260
It's been a little annoying. I'm

865
00:50:19,290 --> 00:50:21,060
not the been the one. That's
okay.

866
00:50:21,089 --> 00:50:24,929
Well, listen, I my job so I can
feed this family. Okay.

867
00:50:30,690 --> 00:50:34,470
There's a lot of love in the
room. That's very exciting. Dan,

868
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:37,890
I look forward to us integrating
with that. That'll be very cool.

869
00:50:38,010 --> 00:50:41,790
Have you gotten into value for
value at all? And not related to

870
00:50:41,790 --> 00:50:47,040
spooler? But just podcasts and
into boosting and streaming?

871
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:50,249
going, Man, I think that's where
everything is going. I think.

872
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:52,829
Could you could you could you
rephrase that and say, I'm

873
00:50:52,829 --> 00:50:57,119
shocked at the interest. It's
just outrageous. It's

874
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,689
insane. What kind of interest
there is right now and value for

875
00:51:00,689 --> 00:51:02,459
value? I'm seeing it everywhere

876
00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:03,990
I go. I love you, man.

877
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:07,589
Yeah, have you a future way of
the future?

878
00:51:07,590 --> 00:51:09,360
Have you used it yourself at
all?

879
00:51:10,289 --> 00:51:15,179
Not in as effective as a way as
you do. But I have one show now

880
00:51:15,179 --> 00:51:17,819
that's completely listener
supported and I would I would

881
00:51:17,819 --> 00:51:21,269
prefer to only do listener
support on a personal level.

882
00:51:21,569 --> 00:51:25,859
Only doing listener supported
only only doing things where we

883
00:51:25,859 --> 00:51:28,649
have direct engagement and
involvement with the audience.

884
00:51:28,649 --> 00:51:31,289
It's so much better even if it
means I make less or even if it

885
00:51:31,289 --> 00:51:34,709
means I make very little I think
it's worth it because it'd be

886
00:51:34,709 --> 00:51:34,829
you

887
00:51:34,829 --> 00:51:38,369
don't that's the thing. Well,
the really doesn't matter. And

888
00:51:38,429 --> 00:51:41,219
with the booster grams, people
going nuts. It's really

889
00:51:41,219 --> 00:51:44,639
interesting. It's we
transitioned, except for our

890
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:47,909
monthly pay pals. And you know,
we have two larger, larger

891
00:51:47,909 --> 00:51:53,939
donors, Mark, overcast and
Buzzsprout. I think the

892
00:51:53,939 --> 00:51:57,479
transition to streaming SATs and
boosting has been pretty good

893
00:51:57,479 --> 00:52:01,349
actually. We probably it's a
little lower overall, but but

894
00:52:01,349 --> 00:52:05,729
people there's more people doing
it. And in hell kind of froze

895
00:52:05,729 --> 00:52:09,479
over. I actually opened a
channel to Todd Cochran node

896
00:52:09,479 --> 00:52:14,489
today. Really? I didn't expect
that to happen. Yeah, he built

897
00:52:14,489 --> 00:52:17,279
himself. did he build his own
node? Yeah, he's

898
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,630
got a Raspberry Pi with an M
with an umbrella. Yeah. That's

899
00:52:21,630 --> 00:52:24,870
pretty cool. Why don't you? Why
don't you have an umbrella? And

900
00:52:25,110 --> 00:52:27,480
I mean, Raspberry Pi on a
lightning node and stuff. Dan,

901
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,870
me You're, you're such a geek,
you would love that. Yeah. You

902
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,670
totally love playing with that
stuff. I would love to get it

903
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:37,590
with all your spare time with
all your spare time.

904
00:52:37,619 --> 00:52:40,169
Yeah, that's that's the only
problem. That's a problem.

905
00:52:41,429 --> 00:52:52,199
Yeah, I am. So go ahead. No, she
is so from this new this from

906
00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:57,959
from this new product? What?
What has jumped out at you? And

907
00:52:57,959 --> 00:53:03,359
this is the other big question I
want to ask of, of what? I don't

908
00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:08,789
want to phrase this. What have
you seen that would make it what

909
00:53:08,789 --> 00:53:15,659
tags? Or what new things in the
feed? Can we build that would

910
00:53:15,659 --> 00:53:20,969
help you to more to more realize
this vision that spooler wants

911
00:53:20,969 --> 00:53:21,449
to do?

912
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,719
That's a great question.
Because, you know, like I

913
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,449
mentioned earlier to power the
player, the player has little,

914
00:53:27,539 --> 00:53:32,549
you know, it's essentially like
a mini podcast app in a way in

915
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:36,899
that, you know, we can pull
data, we can do things right now

916
00:53:36,899 --> 00:53:41,369
delivered mainly over RSS. And I
think, really, there isn't that

917
00:53:41,369 --> 00:53:45,869
much that that is in that that's
in there that we want at this

918
00:53:45,869 --> 00:53:51,329
point. But But what I can see
down the road, when when I think

919
00:53:51,329 --> 00:53:54,029
about this, I think about
personalization, like how cool

920
00:53:54,029 --> 00:53:58,679
would it be, if I could say I
want this kind of news this way?

921
00:53:58,949 --> 00:54:03,209
You know, how do we how do we
add that layer to it. And I

922
00:54:03,209 --> 00:54:05,669
don't know if that's something
that you guys can, you know, can

923
00:54:05,669 --> 00:54:07,829
build in and can help with? Or
if it's just something that I

924
00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:11,609
think about a lot because, as
you you know, like, if you look

925
00:54:11,609 --> 00:54:14,039
at what happened with the cable
companies, how they basically

926
00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:16,319
said, this is the cable plan,
like you can have this and you

927
00:54:16,319 --> 00:54:19,829
can add HBO and that's like it
to what we have now, which is

928
00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:22,229
well I like the Disney plus
stuff. So I'm going to get

929
00:54:22,229 --> 00:54:24,779
Disney plus or I like what HBO
is offering. And now we're

930
00:54:24,809 --> 00:54:27,419
having to pick and choose from
all these different companies.

931
00:54:27,839 --> 00:54:31,439
It's it's almost like like that
in a way from the podcasting

932
00:54:31,439 --> 00:54:33,929
standpoint. If you could say I
just want this content, or I

933
00:54:33,929 --> 00:54:36,179
want this content from here and
this content from here and this

934
00:54:36,179 --> 00:54:39,239
content from here and imagine it
all coming together and in one

935
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,869
place. That's kind of what we
want except right now we're

936
00:54:42,869 --> 00:54:46,079
having to get it from all these
these different sources. I don't

937
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,899
know really, if it's talking but
I'm thinking about better

938
00:54:48,899 --> 00:54:52,079
attribution if there's a better
way than just the author tags

939
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,379
but credit for writing credits,
you know, I'm saying something

940
00:54:55,379 --> 00:54:59,279
that allows if, if you have an
episode of a show that might

941
00:54:59,279 --> 00:55:02,159
pull content from lots of
different places, I feel like

942
00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:05,729
attribution is going to be more
and more and more important over

943
00:55:05,729 --> 00:55:07,889
time. So along those lines

944
00:55:08,010 --> 00:55:10,710
tool that brings up a couple of
things in my mind, we've got,

945
00:55:10,770 --> 00:55:14,490
we've got a few different
proposals. And these, we hit a

946
00:55:14,490 --> 00:55:16,770
lot of easy stuff in the
beginning of the namespace. So a

947
00:55:16,770 --> 00:55:19,980
lot of and I say, easy in
quotes, what I really mean by

948
00:55:19,980 --> 00:55:23,850
easy is that they were sort of
obvious. I mean, you had things

949
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,240
low hanging fruit, low hanging
fruit, yeah, chapters, and you

950
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:33,660
had things like pride, like a
license tag meeting things like

951
00:55:33,660 --> 00:55:37,350
this, this like, Okay, well,
fine. But then, as we go

952
00:55:37,350 --> 00:55:39,870
forward, hitting the harder
things, the things that take

953
00:55:39,870 --> 00:55:43,140
longer to build, and they need
schema, and they need protocol.

954
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,080
And so like things like the
cross app comments and all that

955
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,940
jazz, here, one thing, there's a
few of these types of things

956
00:55:50,940 --> 00:55:55,710
that have been banned, you know,
thrown around. One is podcast

957
00:55:55,710 --> 00:55:58,770
related. And I think Alex gates
brought that up, and sort of

958
00:55:58,770 --> 00:56:03,480
this would be a tag, a related
tag, which was, okay, this, this

959
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,870
episode of this podcast is
related to this other episode of

960
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:12,510
potentially this other podcast.
And basically a way to reference

961
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:17,430
other material in other podcasts
within a certain feed item.

962
00:56:18,540 --> 00:56:20,970
There's, there's that idea. And

963
00:56:20,970 --> 00:56:23,430
that would be that was kind of
designed more for the mythical

964
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:24,360
discovery.

965
00:56:26,190 --> 00:56:29,310
I think it's more than that.
Because like in this was defined

966
00:56:29,310 --> 00:56:35,850
in the context of being able, so
if you have a live item, if

967
00:56:35,850 --> 00:56:39,660
somebody goes live, and you have
a live item in the feed that

968
00:56:39,660 --> 00:56:43,950
live item ins, well, then you
may also want to then publish

969
00:56:43,980 --> 00:56:46,590
another item, that's exactly the
same thing. So here would be the

970
00:56:46,590 --> 00:56:51,120
flow, it would be, you go live,
they listen to your app, and

971
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:55,230
it's live. And then that live
stream ends, will then then the

972
00:56:55,260 --> 00:56:58,950
podcaster, goes back edits, the
edits the audio down into a

973
00:56:58,950 --> 00:57:04,020
published state, publishes it as
an item. And now you could

974
00:57:04,020 --> 00:57:07,380
potentially, if the podcaster
wanted this, you could have both

975
00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:11,160
in the feed, you can have the
live unedited raw version in the

976
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,060
published version. So this is
sort of like a studio track and

977
00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:19,380
a live track. And they can both
be in the feed. And in that

978
00:57:19,380 --> 00:57:22,020
point, you would want to say
you'd want to be able to connect

979
00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:26,550
them somehow to let the app and
the user know, these, these are

980
00:57:26,550 --> 00:57:29,820
two versions of what is
essentially the same thing.

981
00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:33,630
Right. So that's really, that's
the related idea that you would

982
00:57:33,630 --> 00:57:39,300
say, Okay, this is related to
this other item in this way. So

983
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:43,110
I could see something there, if
we flesh that out. And that

984
00:57:43,110 --> 00:57:47,670
becomes as it gets more feet to
it, that those sort of

985
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:54,300
connectors between items, might
be a way to go and do that. Then

986
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:59,280
there's this other notion that
that Tom and Kevin came up with

987
00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:02,700
of channels. And these words,
they're sort of like thinking

988
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:06,540
along the lines of part of the
new Apple podcast, ecosystem

989
00:58:06,540 --> 00:58:10,830
channel concept. But but really
not so much. Just that channel

990
00:58:10,830 --> 00:58:13,710
concept within Apple is tied
really to subscriptions a lot.

991
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,120
So those are more like networks.
The these are the channels would

992
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,530
be more like groupings of
related shows. For any reason,

993
00:58:22,530 --> 00:58:27,270
not just because somebody's got
a network. And a wonder, I mean,

994
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:32,670
that's one of the some things
like that may address some, do

995
00:58:32,670 --> 00:58:34,080
you think that would address
some of what you're thinking

996
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:34,350
about?

997
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,900
I do? Yeah, I think that's a
really neat way to do it. And I

998
00:58:36,930 --> 00:58:39,780
absolutely love the idea of the
live stuff. And I could actually

999
00:58:39,780 --> 00:58:43,620
see, oh, you know, just like
y'all doing broadcast

1000
00:58:43,620 --> 00:58:46,140
journalism, where you have
someone introducing something

1001
00:58:46,140 --> 00:58:48,450
live, and then you've got the
package that's already been

1002
00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:50,940
made, you know, I could see
something like that working too.

1003
00:58:50,970 --> 00:58:53,610
I think it's there's a lot of
potential, a lot of potential,

1004
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:59,070
I was thinking about namespace
tags. And in the context of the

1005
00:58:59,070 --> 00:59:02,490
last board meeting, where we
were talking about claim codes,

1006
00:59:03,210 --> 00:59:06,750
and it kind of dawned on me,
that everything that's that you

1007
00:59:06,750 --> 00:59:10,740
need to claim code for, should
almost by default, be a

1008
00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:15,180
namespace tag. of almost all
these companies are adding some

1009
00:59:15,180 --> 00:59:20,370
value, but only within their
own, sometimes fully, sometimes

1010
00:59:20,370 --> 00:59:24,900
semi walled garden. There's no
benefit to all the podcast apps.

1011
00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:28,560
But you know, when it comes to
comments, ratings, all these

1012
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,720
different things, that's all
it's all versions of the same

1013
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,960
thing. It should all what do you
think Dave? mentum it's it seems

1014
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,450
to me like you should never have
to go claim something for a

1015
00:59:36,450 --> 00:59:40,800
service you should be able to
put you know, that information

1016
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,900
should be able to be handled in
a decentralized way and and the

1017
00:59:45,900 --> 00:59:48,570
namespace tags does that in most
cases, I think

1018
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:51,299
yeah, I mean,

1019
00:59:52,140 --> 00:59:55,440
I'm not I'm not I'm not saying
you know, remove, remove other

1020
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,380
companies, etc. But a lot of
these things that that these

1021
00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:01,650
companies offer, as I get
Because I get spammed because my

1022
01:00:01,650 --> 01:00:05,280
email addresses in the feed. I'm
like, Well, yeah, you know, we

1023
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:05,640
can do?

1024
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:09,539
Well, the thing that pops up
first, I mean that we, you have

1025
01:00:09,539 --> 01:00:14,009
to do sort of a claim process
with podcast and washer. And

1026
01:00:14,009 --> 01:00:16,079
that that is well that

1027
01:00:16,110 --> 01:00:19,140
I'm separate. I'm sorry, I don't
mean to bring up the

1028
01:00:19,140 --> 01:00:21,570
authentication part because I'm
in agreement with you there. I

1029
01:00:21,570 --> 01:00:22,320
have no problem.

1030
01:00:22,769 --> 01:00:25,739
Okay, so you're separating,
you're separating ownership from

1031
01:00:25,739 --> 01:00:27,749
authentication somehow, or I'm
or

1032
01:00:27,780 --> 01:00:31,230
what I'm saying is most of the
places where you are asked to

1033
01:00:31,230 --> 01:00:35,910
authenticate are features that
should be in the namespace.

1034
01:00:35,969 --> 01:00:38,459
Oh, okay. I understand. Because
so what you're saying like in

1035
01:00:38,459 --> 01:00:41,459
our ours is, would be a good
example of that. So we were, you

1036
01:00:41,459 --> 01:00:45,509
know, you're claiming, claiming
your feed on podcast or wallet,

1037
01:00:45,509 --> 01:00:48,299
and then you and then we hold
the value tags, since you can't

1038
01:00:48,299 --> 01:00:51,809
put in your feed yourself. But
really, you should be putting in

1039
01:00:51,809 --> 01:00:53,969
in your feed yourself. Yes.
Okay.

1040
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:59,400
Exactly. Exactly. But, yeah, so
Well, precisely. And as we, I

1041
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,690
think those types of shim
companies, who also again, can

1042
01:01:03,690 --> 01:01:07,260
be incentivized through the
value for value streaming,

1043
01:01:07,530 --> 01:01:13,770
distribution. You know, that
that's the way forward in even

1044
01:01:13,770 --> 01:01:17,040
if the if these companies go off
and do their own thing, I think

1045
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,560
we should always be looking at
what are the features people are

1046
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,950
strapping onto their feed? And
can we put it in a namespace

1047
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:23,340
tag?

1048
01:01:25,110 --> 01:01:30,240
Yeah, next is what watching
what? Watching what the industry

1049
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,490
for lack of a better term,
watching what people are seeing

1050
01:01:33,390 --> 01:01:36,600
what they need? And then okay,
how can we do this in a way

1051
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,580
where people don't have to have
some Yeah,

1052
01:01:38,609 --> 01:01:41,729
it helps all those companies
with those great ideas to get

1053
01:01:41,729 --> 01:01:44,309
into all the apps with whatever
they're offering.

1054
01:01:45,690 --> 01:01:49,500
Yeah, that makes sense. It does.
Yeah. It makes a lot of sense.

1055
01:01:50,250 --> 01:01:54,330
Because you can see that you
made it if if enough people need

1056
01:01:54,330 --> 01:01:58,200
it, then just make it where it
can be canonical within the

1057
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:58,590
fetus.

1058
01:01:58,620 --> 01:02:02,790
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's a V
there. Have you seen this

1059
01:02:02,820 --> 01:02:04,290
impervious browser?

1060
01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:07,379
Not even heard of it? No.

1061
01:02:08,130 --> 01:02:10,470
So someone sent me this. It's
the Impaler

1062
01:02:10,469 --> 01:02:13,019
pro the impervious.ai. Right.
Yeah,

1063
01:02:13,049 --> 01:02:15,839
that's the same P Yeah, I have
seen that thing. So the

1064
01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:19,559
impervious browser will be
launched publicly, April 7

1065
01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:22,949
During the Bitcoin 2220 22
conference in Miami.

1066
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,840
Oh, no. Okay, let me let me try
to describe to you what this is.

1067
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,010
And you'll tell me if I'm, if
I'm even close. All right. This

1068
01:02:32,010 --> 01:02:37,440
is just from the name. This is
something that is going to try

1069
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:43,590
to be like Tor. Oh, and it's
going to go pump all of your

1070
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,510
browser requests through the
Lightning Network. No. Okay. I

1071
01:02:48,510 --> 01:02:50,040
don't think so. Take all that
back.

1072
01:02:51,029 --> 01:02:53,549
Okay, I'm reading from their
press release. And it's quite

1073
01:02:53,549 --> 01:02:57,419
detailed actually what they have
features zoom without zoom

1074
01:02:57,419 --> 01:03:00,449
Google Docs without Google
medium without medium WhatsApp,

1075
01:03:00,449 --> 01:03:03,389
without WhatsApp payments
without banks identity without

1076
01:03:03,389 --> 01:03:06,659
the state all without
centralized intermediaries built

1077
01:03:06,659 --> 01:03:13,409
into the impervious browser. So
they have secure peer to peer

1078
01:03:13,409 --> 01:03:18,299
messaging. They have peer to
peer web RTC data channels for

1079
01:03:18,299 --> 01:03:22,739
audio and video calls, then they
have the decentralized local

1080
01:03:22,739 --> 01:03:25,799
storage is interesting. And
files can be encrypted and

1081
01:03:25,799 --> 01:03:28,319
stored locally, both the browser
designated encrypted system

1082
01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:31,679
database can be published to an
anonymous publicly accessible

1083
01:03:31,739 --> 01:03:36,209
decentralized data store IPFS
IPFS managed automatically fully

1084
01:03:36,209 --> 01:03:40,049
integrated into the underlying
impervious Damon, files

1085
01:03:40,049 --> 01:03:43,799
published IP Fs can be
universally accessed via IP NS

1086
01:03:44,069 --> 01:03:46,709
and persistent link, you know,
they have they've they've

1087
01:03:47,279 --> 01:03:52,979
connected all of the you know,
the API payments for API for

1088
01:03:52,979 --> 01:03:59,399
IPFS, hosting, etc. I mean, this
thing is, it's really it's quite

1089
01:03:59,999 --> 01:04:04,169
amazing. It's so the whole idea
is everything is decentralized.

1090
01:04:04,709 --> 01:04:09,539
And we've thrown in. They have
API's to the Lightning Network.

1091
01:04:09,659 --> 01:04:13,049
So there's no mention how that
works. I'm sure there's

1092
01:04:13,319 --> 01:04:17,249
somewhere someone's doing
wallets stuff somewhere. But it

1093
01:04:17,249 --> 01:04:20,519
seems like they're really like
it might be a leap forward in

1094
01:04:20,519 --> 01:04:22,079
decentralized everything.

1095
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:27,000
Just looking through this could
be interesting.

1096
01:04:28,019 --> 01:04:31,169
You know, especially if it's
based on, you know, chromium or

1097
01:04:31,169 --> 01:04:34,169
whatever, you know, if it's a
modern browser, but I bet it is.

1098
01:04:34,769 --> 01:04:37,709
Just I just looked at this and
like, well, that's kind of I

1099
01:04:37,709 --> 01:04:40,199
mean, that's kind of all the
things we need.

1100
01:04:41,010 --> 01:04:44,250
Built in IPFS pinning services
allow for persistence, all

1101
01:04:44,250 --> 01:04:48,990
availability, even when a user's
IPFS node is offline. Man, I

1102
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:52,109
appreciate ya way and verified
lightning invoices send and

1103
01:04:52,109 --> 01:04:56,099
receive lightning keys and
payments. Create pay to play

1104
01:04:56,099 --> 01:04:58,619
links, prompting peers to
fulfill a key exchange or

1105
01:04:58,619 --> 01:05:02,129
lightning invoice invoice. To
view premium content, Port

1106
01:05:02,129 --> 01:05:05,489
existing audiences to bolster
subscription content revenue

1107
01:05:05,489 --> 01:05:08,429
resiliency well that's a
marketing jargon jargon right

1108
01:05:08,429 --> 01:05:12,359
there. offer goods and services
via linked associate links

1109
01:05:12,359 --> 01:05:15,359
associated with well that's like
airline URL. I mean, so they do

1110
01:05:15,359 --> 01:05:21,809
have a lot of interest here
store. What was the since? I

1111
01:05:21,809 --> 01:05:25,589
don't know, I want I'm kind of
I'm semi excited about this.

1112
01:05:26,699 --> 01:05:31,559
Yeah, well, I want to see the
slides released in April and not

1113
01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:35,639
heard about this decentralized
identifiers. Di D coms that

1114
01:05:35,639 --> 01:05:38,579
there's there's been a few
things in here that I've never

1115
01:05:38,999 --> 01:05:43,859
done. I've never seen these
words before. Such as, like di D

1116
01:05:43,859 --> 01:05:45,659
calm. What is the D O. That's

1117
01:05:45,689 --> 01:05:50,159
just decentralized identifiers.
So your you can identify

1118
01:05:50,159 --> 01:05:57,569
yourself with your key. For
longest like you're really you

1119
01:05:57,569 --> 01:06:00,239
really hemming and hawing on
this one Dave doesn't sound like

1120
01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:05,039
you're really like, don't
impress me much. Okay. No,

1121
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:05,339
that's

1122
01:06:05,339 --> 01:06:07,649
I'm not saying no, it's not that
it's not impressive. I did I

1123
01:06:07,649 --> 01:06:10,109
need. I'm caught off guard about
this, because I don't.

1124
01:06:10,650 --> 01:06:16,680
I saw was I saw, I saw, Wow, the
goal is to allow I guess, to

1125
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:22,290
allow everyone to publish,
blogs, the podcasts, etc.

1126
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,070
Without hosting companies. And
with revenue streams built in? I

1127
01:06:26,070 --> 01:06:26,550
guess.

1128
01:06:32,429 --> 01:06:36,359
I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical.
This This sounds like because

1129
01:06:36,359 --> 01:06:41,219
impervious.ai is the ones that.
Now I'm not trying to say this

1130
01:06:41,219 --> 01:06:43,169
is all they do. But I know
they've done multiple

1131
01:06:43,169 --> 01:06:46,139
experiments with pushing things
through the Lightning Network.

1132
01:06:46,379 --> 01:06:48,569
Like they're the ones that did
that thing where they delivered

1133
01:06:48,569 --> 01:06:53,579
on a podcast, or mp3, through
light through lightning channel.

1134
01:06:53,609 --> 01:06:53,819
Oh, I

1135
01:06:53,820 --> 01:06:56,100
didn't know that it happened.
That's a horrible thing to think

1136
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:59,010
of. That's awful. It's awful.
And I kind of look what kind of

1137
01:06:59,010 --> 01:07:02,460
channel liquidity do you need
for 100 megabyte file?

1138
01:07:02,909 --> 01:07:06,959
I don't know. But it sounds like
a horrible thing to do is um, my

1139
01:07:06,959 --> 01:07:08,789
first thought is, oh, that's
what

1140
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,120
not doesn't seem. It doesn't
seem to be that. Well, we'll

1141
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,030
see. I mean, I'm okay. I just
love all of these, you know,

1142
01:07:15,030 --> 01:07:19,500
self hosting homes, things that
are popping up and we're going

1143
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,710
with the best will rise to the
top, no doubt.

1144
01:07:23,309 --> 01:07:27,239
Do you do any of that? Dan, do
you do anything like ownCloud?

1145
01:07:27,239 --> 01:07:28,379
Or any of that jazz?

1146
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,330
No, no, I'm not really doing
that.

1147
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,630
Oh, man. I love your cloud. I
love my next cloud.

1148
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,800
It's not something you've ever
gotten into is the is the whole

1149
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,480
self sort of self hosting

1150
01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:42,270
thing. Oh, no. I mean, that's
exactly what I used to do. For

1151
01:07:42,270 --> 01:07:45,960
years, I used to run an internet
hosting company out of my spare

1152
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,930
bedroom in my apartment. I mean,
no matter like you personally

1153
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,680
No, but I'm saying like I always
used to do the personal stuff

1154
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,760
and have control and do the self
hosting and all of that and I

1155
01:07:56,790 --> 01:08:00,270
just kind of got you got get you
got captured you get you You

1156
01:08:00,270 --> 01:08:03,150
gave it to the man and gave it
to the man I guess I mean, like,

1157
01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:06,810
would running. I mean, I have a
Synology I could share stuff off

1158
01:08:06,810 --> 01:08:11,280
of I guess. You want me to do
you want me to do next cloud? Is

1159
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:12,240
that what you're trying to? No,

1160
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,640
no, I'm just what I'm just
wondering how committed you are

1161
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,150
like if you're on the but you
know, we're on that tip. When

1162
01:08:18,150 --> 01:08:21,090
we get when you get an Umbral
and you look at that app store,

1163
01:08:21,150 --> 01:08:24,240
there's just things in there
that are just groovy little

1164
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,780
toys, you know, like the next
cloud that sets up the instance

1165
01:08:27,780 --> 01:08:33,060
for you. You know, this is I
don't know this, it's piehole.

1166
01:08:33,090 --> 01:08:37,050
And you can run it from any
device. They've got the VPN, the

1167
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,620
tail scale, there's, it's it's
kind of getting there. I'm

1168
01:08:40,620 --> 01:08:42,330
feeling this. I'm feeling this.

1169
01:08:42,510 --> 01:08:50,190
Yeah, I hear you. Say you say
seriously, go look at I have the

1170
01:08:50,190 --> 01:08:54,180
next cloud site open right here.
Your career gain control the

1171
01:08:54,180 --> 01:08:56,910
self hosted productivity
platform. It keeps you in

1172
01:08:56,910 --> 01:08:58,740
control by next cloud. Now.

1173
01:08:58,769 --> 01:09:01,859
What we need is we need Dan just
to be around us wherever we go.

1174
01:09:01,859 --> 01:09:04,199
Dave So you can just say
hallelujah, that's right on.

1175
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:04,739
Aha.

1176
01:09:05,369 --> 01:09:07,469
They call it a hype man. Yes,
exactly.

1177
01:09:07,469 --> 01:09:10,439
Yes, we are hype man. You can do
that. You're good at that. And

1178
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,839
then we'll do I'll do it for you
that free I'll do it for you. No

1179
01:09:12,839 --> 01:09:15,149
problem. Should we thank some
people Dave.

1180
01:09:15,750 --> 01:09:20,040
Oh, yeah, sure. You get time to
stick around while we'd love to

1181
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:21,570
do that. Oh, awesome.

1182
01:09:21,750 --> 01:09:26,970
So this is a value for value.
Project as we would say in

1183
01:09:26,970 --> 01:09:31,980
Canada. We talk to subgradient
road it's a great project pro J

1184
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:35,220
to project now I don't do a
jokes anymore after that truck.

1185
01:09:35,730 --> 01:09:40,650
That trucker thing I got respect
for him. Like I love it. I know

1186
01:09:40,650 --> 01:09:44,940
but I'm showing even I'm giving
them more love. Okay, but I will

1187
01:09:44,940 --> 01:09:49,950
I will mess with project to this
project. Podcasting. 2.0 is

1188
01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:53,850
completely value for value,
which means only if you think

1189
01:09:53,850 --> 01:09:56,970
you get any value out of it.
Then you need to put some back

1190
01:09:56,970 --> 01:09:59,910
in that can be with one of the
three T's time talent treasure

1191
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,730
We need treasure to keep the
machines spinning, keep

1192
01:10:02,730 --> 01:10:06,690
everything worrying, worrying.
We worry enough but to worrying

1193
01:10:06,690 --> 01:10:10,650
with an eye. And you can do that
by going to podcast index.org.

1194
01:10:10,650 --> 01:10:13,260
There's a link at the bottom Big
Red donate button, you can hit

1195
01:10:13,260 --> 01:10:17,670
that. And is the QR code for
Bitcoin on chain up there yet?

1196
01:10:18,150 --> 01:10:21,570
Yeah, on the site. Yeah, that's
on there that tally coin. Oh,

1197
01:10:21,570 --> 01:10:24,690
the tally coin. Yeah, perfect.
Or you can get a modern podcast

1198
01:10:24,690 --> 01:10:27,540
app, but new podcast apps calm
and boost to your heart's

1199
01:10:27,540 --> 01:10:31,260
content, send a message. We love
reading them as well. And it's

1200
01:10:31,260 --> 01:10:33,360
also just a great way to
continuously support the

1201
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,200
Podcast, the podcast app that
you're using, because we have

1202
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,940
the distributed digital royalty
system of the value block

1203
01:10:41,940 --> 01:10:45,270
splits. And you also help
podcasts index with that, and we

1204
01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:47,700
highly appreciate it. So we're
gonna thank some of these people

1205
01:10:47,700 --> 01:10:48,000
now.

1206
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,930
Yeah, well, this, this show is
pretty much owned by Dred Scott.

1207
01:10:51,930 --> 01:10:55,530
I'm going to tell you that up
front. Oh, all our big baller.

1208
01:10:55,860 --> 01:10:58,650
He's hiding from his wife in the
closet and sending out and just

1209
01:10:58,650 --> 01:10:59,730
giving all their money away.

1210
01:11:01,170 --> 01:11:05,100
He did a round man he did around
he did. He did a big ball around

1211
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:07,740
Moe facts, no agenda. And now
tell us

1212
01:11:08,460 --> 01:11:13,260
if he if if Dan had at a
lightning enabled podcast, he

1213
01:11:13,260 --> 01:11:15,600
would have been in there too,
but Dred Scott would have thrown

1214
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:21,810
stats at him. That's right.
That's right. Dred Scott $345.67

1215
01:11:21,810 --> 01:11:22,530
through PayPal

1216
01:11:22,620 --> 01:11:29,550
Bala shot 20 blades on the
Impala Whoa, Dread thank you

1217
01:11:29,550 --> 01:11:35,100
that I was talking about drab
again last night with Tina. She

1218
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:40,680
says cuz I said drip donated
$345.67 to no agenda. And and he

1219
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,950
did it for podcasting. 2.0 and
for mo faxes. What does this guy

1220
01:11:43,950 --> 01:11:48,060
do? I said what was she she
doesn't listen she listens to

1221
01:11:48,090 --> 01:11:51,300
almost everything I do this one
she doesn't listen to I said

1222
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:54,240
Don't you know that he's the
Bruce Wayne of podcasting 2.0

1223
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,120
He's an heir to a billion
dollars he has a Batcave the

1224
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:01,020
whole thing any any any in his
cave. He does chapters to help

1225
01:12:01,020 --> 01:12:04,800
people and then he's giving away
his fortune bit by bit. Satoshi

1226
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:11,820
by Satoshi. She says what
really? Yeah, are the

1227
01:12:11,850 --> 01:12:14,850
bill The Bill Gates, they give
all your stuff away? Yeah, yeah.

1228
01:12:14,850 --> 01:12:15,030
The

1229
01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:18,570
war the Warren Buffett. Warren
Buffett give all your money

1230
01:12:18,570 --> 01:12:21,720
away. Thank you so much. Dr.
This is so meaningful. Really

1231
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,250
appreciate you spin on tear man.
Then don't don't kill yourself

1232
01:12:26,250 --> 01:12:28,560
on anything. It's just a horse.
Like, Listen, I I get the

1233
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,740
chapters from mo facts under the
other from no agenda tomorrow.

1234
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,600
It's like dude, anytime

1235
01:12:33,630 --> 01:12:35,190
it's cool. It's cool. Yeah,

1236
01:12:35,219 --> 01:12:37,469
any time we we understand.

1237
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,640
Get a message from some time. My
my child's in the hospital for

1238
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:42,180
three minutes.

1239
01:12:42,810 --> 01:12:46,470
My house blew up my dog died.
But I got the chapters ready. I

1240
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:48,240
did it while in the ambulance.

1241
01:12:49,170 --> 01:12:54,240
Yes. drab says can I get a
birthday shout out as my

1242
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,720
birthday is today. March the
fourth? Yes. Yes. Well,

1243
01:12:57,750 --> 01:13:01,800
you know what? He needs what he
needs. He needs a biscuit for

1244
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,930
his birthday. That's what he
needs. They always

1245
01:13:03,930 --> 01:13:05,760
give me a biscuit on my
birthday.

1246
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,310
Happy birthday. Happy birthday
brother.

1247
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:12,510
March 4, the only day of the
year that gives a command a

1248
01:13:13,050 --> 01:13:15,570
march for exact Keep up the
great

1249
01:13:15,570 --> 01:13:17,640
work in Drib in J and K.

1250
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,940
Thank you drive. That's really
appreciated, man.

1251
01:13:22,980 --> 01:13:25,110
Let's see. And he gets the

1252
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:29,580
SATs too. He gets 5% split on on
all of my shows on the SATs. I

1253
01:13:29,580 --> 01:13:32,820
doubt I doubt he's receiving as
much as he's putting in

1254
01:13:35,310 --> 01:13:39,810
Oh, now this is an interesting
one. So we got this is $100 Pay

1255
01:13:39,810 --> 01:13:43,680
Pal through from cauldron
entertainment. Oh cold cold

1256
01:13:43,710 --> 01:13:48,570
cauldron. This is now this is to
you says it would see my booster

1257
01:13:48,570 --> 01:13:51,660
grams advertising my intimacy
and relationship coaching

1258
01:13:51,690 --> 01:13:55,590
aggravated Adam with his comment
that I am making the rounds.

1259
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,360
Where you aggravated aggravated
that's when comics for Blogger

1260
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,780
does oh this. I'm not aggravated
by that at all.

1261
01:14:04,290 --> 01:14:06,780
No, not making the rounds means
you're this is

1262
01:14:06,989 --> 01:14:11,309
this is the second this is the
sex therapy a couple. Yeah, no,

1263
01:14:11,339 --> 01:14:12,299
no, this is

1264
01:14:12,570 --> 01:14:14,250
okay man knows these guys.

1265
01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:16,110
Let me just

1266
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:18,750
let me just say tremendous
interest what

1267
01:14:18,750 --> 01:14:22,860
I'm it's it's Shocking. Shocking
how much interest there is for

1268
01:14:22,860 --> 01:14:26,220
this sector. What I like about
it is you're one of the first

1269
01:14:26,220 --> 01:14:30,420
people to grasp the full
potential of value for value.

1270
01:14:30,690 --> 01:14:33,390
You're sending us a cute
message. We're laughing about

1271
01:14:33,390 --> 01:14:36,630
it. People are hearing about the
service you provide. And you're

1272
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:40,710
supporting the show. We love it.
No, no, no, I'm not. No, I'm not

1273
01:14:40,710 --> 01:14:43,170
at all annoyed. I'm sorry that
you guys had impression.

1274
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:46,320
So here's a donation that
hopefully shows my appreciation

1275
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,980
for all involved in podcasting.
2.0 podcasting gave me purpose

1276
01:14:50,010 --> 01:14:53,430
after a job loss and saved my
life from suicide. As I

1277
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:56,520
explained on Dave Jackson's
School of podcasting episode,

1278
01:14:56,910 --> 01:15:00,300
podcasting gives a listener a
reason to live. Wow, thanks To

1279
01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:02,670
all involved for the hard work
Wow, that

1280
01:15:02,670 --> 01:15:04,380
is whatever what episode is
that?

1281
01:15:04,860 --> 01:15:09,480
It's called podcasting gives a
listener a reason to live.

1282
01:15:09,809 --> 01:15:12,569
Crikey. Well Nice.

1283
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,490
Yeah, I mean,

1284
01:15:14,489 --> 01:15:18,599
I like hearing that another life
saved or created Dave Jones.

1285
01:15:19,079 --> 01:15:19,799
It's also another

1286
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,040
money making tip where we can
just be really ambiguous about

1287
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,080
our thoughts about things and
people have to give us more

1288
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,760
money in order to explain the
problem.

1289
01:15:26,910 --> 01:15:29,490
I love how you do that you are
thinking man

1290
01:15:31,260 --> 01:15:36,450
thank you for that $100 cauldron
entertainment $50 from Amy

1291
01:15:36,450 --> 01:15:40,140
Harmon, and there's no note from
Amy but thank you Amy. Thank you

1292
01:15:40,140 --> 01:15:45,630
Amy. That's it. That's Pay Pal
so we got some boosts Mr.

1293
01:15:45,630 --> 01:15:45,930
Graham's

1294
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:54,390
yay. Hold on Yeah, ready to
boost everybody booster Graham's

1295
01:15:54,390 --> 01:15:56,610
bee bee bee hanging? What are we

1296
01:15:57,330 --> 01:16:02,460
Spencer 33,369 says through
fountain and he says thank you

1297
01:16:02,460 --> 01:16:04,740
for helping us make podcasting
history shout out to rare

1298
01:16:04,740 --> 01:16:08,100
encounter with April Kirby and
cold acid who also implemented

1299
01:16:08,100 --> 01:16:10,500
Live This Week go podcast. Yeah,
I

1300
01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:11,490
want to do live.

1301
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,040
Let's do it. Can we do it next
week?

1302
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:17,640
Yeah. Next week. I'll be jacked
and ready next Friday going

1303
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:18,300
live.

1304
01:16:18,750 --> 01:16:20,190
Alright, we'll do it. We'll do
it live.

1305
01:16:20,190 --> 01:16:22,260
All right. Well, I'm excited
now.

1306
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,150
Sir, Doug, give us 4400 sets and
he says I'm boosting while

1307
01:16:27,150 --> 01:16:34,260
driving. Yeah, we pull over
pullover. Hard hats in this row

1308
01:16:34,260 --> 01:16:38,430
of ducks. 20 to 22 and he says
now we know where the AMA cast

1309
01:16:38,430 --> 01:16:41,640
comes from. I think that was a
lot there's less

1310
01:16:44,370 --> 01:16:45,870
Rubber Ducks always appreciated.

1311
01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:52,680
Dan you do not harvest people's
email addresses from their RSS

1312
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,810
feeds and spam them to come to
fireside D.

1313
01:16:55,230 --> 01:16:59,190
No, but my competitors do that.
They definitely do that I've

1314
01:16:59,190 --> 01:17:04,410
heard yet. I get reports of it
all the time on Twitter and, and

1315
01:17:04,410 --> 01:17:09,420
people forward me stuff all the
time. You'd be absolutely

1316
01:17:09,420 --> 01:17:12,990
shocked and I I don't get that.
I feel like that's something

1317
01:17:12,990 --> 01:17:15,810
that you just shouldn't do. You
just shouldn't do that.

1318
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:17,430
We call it slimy.

1319
01:17:17,670 --> 01:17:21,090
Yeah, just like it's more than
one more than one company that

1320
01:17:21,090 --> 01:17:21,720
does that.

1321
01:17:22,410 --> 01:17:25,710
It's mainly one company. But
there are there is a second one

1322
01:17:25,710 --> 01:17:27,870
but it's mainly the one. They
not gonna

1323
01:17:27,900 --> 01:17:31,950
know because we all know this
has been a news story. This was

1324
01:17:31,980 --> 01:17:36,030
I got it on. What's the thing
called?

1325
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,510
I can't remember which company
it was. No, I

1326
01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:45,180
got it on spooler I heard it on
spooler had to go look it up

1327
01:17:45,180 --> 01:17:49,830
what the hell was sparklers
cooler.

1328
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,730
Harv has in this 12,222 sets.
And he says running with

1329
01:17:53,730 --> 01:18:00,720
scissors. Yeah, we love that is
what we do here. Martin from hot

1330
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,050
friend gave us 10,000 SATs and
he says history is being written

1331
01:18:04,050 --> 01:18:06,780
first pot friend cross app
comment just happened?

1332
01:18:06,810 --> 01:18:08,100
Oh, yeah.

1333
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:12,450
When did this happen? This was
right around the show. Last

1334
01:18:12,450 --> 01:18:17,910
week. Our show post was coming
up on our shows. Yeah, yes.

1335
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:18,180
That's right.

1336
01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:20,009
I'm excited. Another first.

1337
01:18:20,370 --> 01:18:25,530
Yep, that's it. He's integrating
mini pub. And I think Steven D

1338
01:18:25,530 --> 01:18:30,750
is integrating mini pub as well.
We've got I'm celebrating John's

1339
01:18:30,750 --> 01:18:33,000
for lunch next week. So we're
gonna talk all

1340
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,870
Spurlock this guy's another
mysterious dude or like him.

1341
01:18:38,250 --> 01:18:40,590
What's he been up to? What's he
going to come on? Talk about

1342
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,490
cross cross on the comments.
Yeah. Yeah. Know about cross app

1343
01:18:44,490 --> 01:18:45,690
comments, Dan.

1344
01:18:46,020 --> 01:18:49,890
I mean, I only don't look for a
level. No, no, no, no. Just say

1345
01:18:49,890 --> 01:18:50,130
no.

1346
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,900
So it's all the spec is all
using activity pub.

1347
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,140
Well, you guys talked about at
the end of the year last Oh,

1348
01:18:58,140 --> 01:18:58,500
right.

1349
01:18:58,530 --> 01:19:01,170
This is one of the first things
we talked about. And we were we

1350
01:19:01,170 --> 01:19:03,690
were not ready as a group yet to
tackle it. But we're, we're in

1351
01:19:03,690 --> 01:19:04,650
the air now. I think.

1352
01:19:05,250 --> 01:19:08,970
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it will
be in Phase Five of the

1353
01:19:08,970 --> 01:19:12,600
namespace, the Roodman, the
rudimentary tags will be in

1354
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:17,070
there and then there'll be a bit
it's fairly the landscape for

1355
01:19:17,070 --> 01:19:20,370
how to do this has gotten a lot
more clear over the last

1356
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,470
probably three to four weeks.

1357
01:19:23,130 --> 01:19:26,640
But but we're seeing it work,
man. It's so cool. In one app,

1358
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,510
you post a comment, boom, it's
in all the others. And you can

1359
01:19:30,510 --> 01:19:33,630
choose your platform so I use
the mastodon server, you can

1360
01:19:33,630 --> 01:19:36,180
reply there. I mean, the whole
thing is mine. You know what I'm

1361
01:19:36,180 --> 01:19:38,160
shocked at the interest in this
thing.

1362
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:42,420
Yes. Interest is shocked and
then shot mortals, mere mortals

1363
01:19:42,420 --> 01:19:46,590
podcast, Karen down, gave us a
road ducks 2222 He said,

1364
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,010
actually had a chat with a
premature duck.

1365
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:54,270
Sorry. Premature duck.

1366
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,530
Oh my god. Actually had a chat
with Brian on the latest mere

1367
01:19:58,530 --> 01:20:01,080
mortals conversations As he
mentioned about getting some

1368
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,650
flack from the Bitcoin
maximalists sad to hear as he's

1369
01:20:04,650 --> 01:20:07,800
doing great work with POD paying
He sure is. Yeah also talked

1370
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,920
about decentralization the
genesis of hive and his crypto

1371
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,290
class action lawsuit here in
Australia if anyone is

1372
01:20:13,290 --> 01:20:14,130
interested quackquack

1373
01:20:16,260 --> 01:20:21,450
Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian,
Brian, Brian, dude, don't pick

1374
01:20:21,450 --> 01:20:22,080
fights.

1375
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:27,060
Fights there's more of them than
there are views so just yeah,

1376
01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:30,660
yes. We understand what you're
saying, bro. We do.

1377
01:20:31,410 --> 01:20:35,430
Brian of London 19 148 SAS
because the devil he says the

1378
01:20:35,490 --> 01:20:39,240
Episode This episode is made for
me. Thank you much. I'm also

1379
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,730
seeing increased failed
transactions, especially to mine

1380
01:20:41,730 --> 01:20:44,550
and Phoenix. I'm working hard to
fix this. No breeze and the

1381
01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:46,860
split. Well, yeah,

1382
01:20:46,860 --> 01:20:49,080
I think we have reason the split
and what do you mean breezing

1383
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,560
the split ROI, like ROI? What is
what is he saying

1384
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,020
from last episode? Didn't we put
ROI split and you

1385
01:20:55,050 --> 01:20:59,160
know, he refused. He refused.
Yeah. I said, Give me your

1386
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,370
lightning node. He said No, put
give it towards podcasting. 2.0.

1387
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,760
I said, Yeah, but I want you to
see the joy of these Satoshis

1388
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,700
coming and he says, Dude, I see
that all day on the breeze node.

1389
01:21:09,150 --> 01:21:10,140
Okay, fair point.

1390
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,190
He said, he said I'm Israeli. I
don't need joy. I live on the

1391
01:21:14,220 --> 01:21:15,210
hour of the universe.

1392
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:17,100
Precisely.

1393
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:24,270
Okay, so up. Here we go. Is
this? Yeah, there's yet here. It

1394
01:21:24,270 --> 01:21:27,210
is anonymous, but it's not
really anonymous because it came

1395
01:21:27,210 --> 01:21:33,240
through breeze and it's Roy and
he sent us 123,456 sets.

1396
01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:38,670
Oh, let me see. Let me go ahead.

1397
01:21:38,970 --> 01:21:41,550
It's a breeze love for podcast
index from Roy.

1398
01:21:41,670 --> 01:21:47,130
Oh, man. Give me a little bit of
love back. Thank you, Roy. You

1399
01:21:47,130 --> 01:21:49,260
know, I shamed him into that.
That was pretty cool. That

1400
01:21:49,260 --> 01:21:52,680
works. Like hey, man. None of
the Bitcoin has ever donated.

1401
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,840
All they do is bitches bread
Brian of London.

1402
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,670
And he was like, okay, okay.

1403
01:21:58,500 --> 01:22:01,530
Thank you, Roy. Thank you. So he
bought a mic. We got to test it.

1404
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,520
Oh, cool. He's he's like, what
can you recommend? I said, Well,

1405
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:11,550
I would recommend the was it the
SM seven? The the the USB

1406
01:22:11,550 --> 01:22:14,880
version? What does that Dan? Is
that the M seven? Yeah, the M

1407
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,910
seven. Yeah, the M service or he
says that those are badass. And

1408
01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:20,640
he's like, You got anything
cheaper? So hey, man, you asked

1409
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,750
for the podcast on pod father
recommendation. He's like I got

1410
01:22:24,750 --> 01:22:28,110
a yeti blues. Okay, you're ready
for you to define?

1411
01:22:29,580 --> 01:22:31,860
What What mic Are you on right
now? Danny sound good.

1412
01:22:32,250 --> 01:22:37,530
I am on the Telefunken M which
guys? Is this the mid shoe? I

1413
01:22:37,530 --> 01:22:39,210
think? Yeah, it's um,

1414
01:22:39,420 --> 01:22:42,030
wait a minute. What? Telefunken
what?

1415
01:22:42,750 --> 01:22:48,570
Avallon tell you the wrong
thing. Telefunken M 82. Yeah,

1416
01:22:48,570 --> 01:22:51,840
that's that was right. It's, um,
it's really great. Mike, I've

1417
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,540
been on this thing for years.
And this came from a

1418
01:22:54,540 --> 01:22:58,110
recommendation one of my
listeners who went to went to

1419
01:22:58,110 --> 01:23:02,070
some audio show and Telefunken
was there and he contact he's

1420
01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:05,460
like a super like super nerd
audio engineer. He knows

1421
01:23:05,460 --> 01:23:08,880
everything. And he, he's like 10
your your voice would sound

1422
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,280
really good through this mic.
And I said really? And he's

1423
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,980
like, better than better than
the Shure SM seven way better

1424
01:23:13,980 --> 01:23:16,650
than the Heil PR 40 You got to
get this you got to get it and

1425
01:23:16,650 --> 01:23:19,620
I'm like, You know what, I'll
order it and if it's wrong, I'll

1426
01:23:19,620 --> 01:23:22,620
just you know, send it back and
it was great and I loved it and

1427
01:23:22,620 --> 01:23:24,810
I've been using it ever since I
think I'm going to try this one

1428
01:23:24,810 --> 01:23:28,500
out. Is a great mic. You would
sound amazing through this does

1429
01:23:28,500 --> 01:23:29,250
it come with

1430
01:23:29,250 --> 01:23:32,580
a boom attachment? Or do you
have to have a an extra bit

1431
01:23:32,580 --> 01:23:33,150
package

1432
01:23:33,150 --> 01:23:36,750
that I got came with the boom
and the boom attachment and

1433
01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:39,150
everything that you need and it
actually came with two it comes

1434
01:23:39,150 --> 01:23:41,700
with a shock mount and it also
comes with just the little

1435
01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:45,390
attachment and I think there's
different packages you can get

1436
01:23:45,390 --> 01:23:48,360
depending on what you want like
it's up to you

1437
01:23:48,450 --> 01:23:51,660
I've always liked Telefunken
microphones I have not owned one

1438
01:23:51,660 --> 01:23:53,640
myself have used them many times

1439
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,480
the build on it is amazing like
it's it looks good that's

1440
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,640
so you got to get the the
broadcast package with the cable

1441
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,850
or with comes with cable, shock
mount and boom arm.

1442
01:24:06,510 --> 01:24:10,110
You don't want us to just kick
drum mic. Yeah,

1443
01:24:10,110 --> 01:24:12,780
that's yeah, just I mean, most
of the mics that we use in

1444
01:24:12,780 --> 01:24:15,540
podcasting are kick drum mics,
right I mean, wouldn't you say

1445
01:24:15,540 --> 01:24:18,420
the rd 20 and the PR 40? Weren't
they kick drum

1446
01:24:18,450 --> 01:24:21,210
mics? Yes. I think they were
originally Yeah.

1447
01:24:22,230 --> 01:24:26,430
But you can get the M 782
microphone mount ma two t f one

1448
01:24:26,430 --> 01:24:30,150
one attachment if you're if you
don't like the shock mount I'm

1449
01:24:30,150 --> 01:24:32,040
just looking at their website
right now but it's

1450
01:24:32,070 --> 01:24:34,980
do you need to shock mount is it
real so I guess it's probably

1451
01:24:34,980 --> 01:24:35,640
sensitive

1452
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,330
is sensitive enough? I tried it
without it and it seemed to pick

1453
01:24:39,330 --> 01:24:39,540
up I

1454
01:24:39,540 --> 01:24:42,600
just like guy just like grabbing
my mic, you know, like a big

1455
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:43,560
phallic symbol.

1456
01:24:43,860 --> 01:24:44,670
Yeah, of course.

1457
01:24:44,700 --> 01:24:47,580
I mean, of course. Yeah, of
course. We know.

1458
01:24:49,410 --> 01:24:51,600
That doesn't have that fantasy
guess.

1459
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,240
Hmm. This is interesting.

1460
01:24:54,239 --> 01:24:56,669
I'm not buy this just just to
have it in here. Look at

1461
01:24:56,670 --> 01:25:00,720
it. Mike. So cool. And it's all
black, black. all the time.

1462
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:01,170
Yeah.

1463
01:25:01,470 --> 01:25:05,070
Okay. But I like the sound of
it. I agree with Dave You sound

1464
01:25:05,070 --> 01:25:08,490
really good is a real real good
son. No, it's the mic man. Don't

1465
01:25:08,490 --> 01:25:16,680
take credit. It sounds really
nice Come on, Dan. You should

1466
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,630
have been working with me when
you had the chance.

1467
01:25:18,780 --> 01:25:20,820
Oh my god, you can bring this up
every day.

1468
01:25:20,820 --> 01:25:24,450
Of course I do. I live I didn't.

1469
01:25:24,450 --> 01:25:28,140
I didn't see the vision and now
I regret I told you it's the one

1470
01:25:28,140 --> 01:25:29,430
thing I regret in my life.

1471
01:25:30,540 --> 01:25:33,270
I'm not even kidding. Let's
continue with our booster grams

1472
01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:33,480
day

1473
01:25:33,540 --> 01:25:39,030
John's BRT gave us 49,000 SATs
was so nice whopping Adams and

1474
01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:40,560
splicing pew pew.

1475
01:25:43,020 --> 01:25:45,630
Nice. Excellent.

1476
01:25:46,470 --> 01:25:50,310
Cast, peatland gave us 3300 sets
and he says I'm trying to get

1477
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:53,760
the podcast index channel in
balance for weeks now I did the

1478
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,420
rebalance swap loop all of them
fail. We'll try to we'll try

1479
01:25:57,420 --> 01:25:59,760
with ZERO FEES one of these days
thanks for the show.

1480
01:26:00,270 --> 01:26:04,980
Yeah, on that, you know, I am
experimenting with with fees for

1481
01:26:04,980 --> 01:26:08,790
our liquidity provision. And so
far, it seems like they're

1482
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:13,500
having a zero base fee. So so
for the micro payments seems to

1483
01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:16,980
be really good. And it has most
definitely, with a with a

1484
01:26:16,980 --> 01:26:23,460
significantly higher per amount
fee has stopped a lot of the

1485
01:26:23,730 --> 01:26:27,870
routing that was clear was just
blowing out our channels. So but

1486
01:26:27,870 --> 01:26:31,380
it does mean that if you have so
for instance, Todd, with your

1487
01:26:31,380 --> 01:26:36,150
node, you know, we're an
expensive place to be if you

1488
01:26:36,150 --> 01:26:39,600
want to get all your payments
through us. So the whole idea

1489
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:43,290
is, you know, open up more
channels, work with other people

1490
01:26:43,290 --> 01:26:45,990
expand and we need that the
network needs it. Everybody

1491
01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:49,170
needs it, and we need it so that
we can make good use of our

1492
01:26:49,170 --> 01:26:49,860
liquidity.

1493
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,400
Yeah, and if all else fails in
your rebalancing, just just drop

1494
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:54,990
the channel and open a new one.
I mean, like

1495
01:26:55,020 --> 01:26:57,660
those Yes, that's another way to
do it. It's expensive, but it's

1496
01:26:57,660 --> 01:26:59,070
definitely wait for the phase to
be

1497
01:26:59,069 --> 01:27:01,259
down. Yeah, wait for the min put
mempool to be a little bit empty

1498
01:27:01,259 --> 01:27:08,039
and try new. Primitive one, gave
us 6669 SATs through fountain

1499
01:27:08,039 --> 01:27:10,829
and he says I came across
submarine swaps recently without

1500
01:27:10,829 --> 01:27:13,769
foreknowledge which put me off a
bit, but I feel a lot better

1501
01:27:13,769 --> 01:27:15,719
about the whole thing and
learned a bunch about breeze

1502
01:27:15,719 --> 01:27:18,269
making me feel better for having
recommended it to some people.

1503
01:27:18,780 --> 01:27:22,830
I had a submarine swap
experience myself actually. Did

1504
01:27:22,830 --> 01:27:26,340
you with the breeze app, which
was kind of fun. That was not

1505
01:27:26,340 --> 01:27:32,280
fun. But how it ultimately
worked. I was sending I was

1506
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:37,290
sending money to my sister in
Italy to the breeze app on chain

1507
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,280
1100 bucks or something. We're
renting an Airbnb for my dad's

1508
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,720
Intermot and so I sent her I
sent it to her actually to her

1509
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,060
husband because he said like you
know, I'll just pay for it and

1510
01:27:48,060 --> 01:27:50,940
then this end as our sound Oh,
he wants to have some bitcoins

1511
01:27:50,940 --> 01:27:55,860
to send it to him. And I'd sent
a test to the to the bitcoin

1512
01:27:55,860 --> 01:27:57,990
address you know, like 10 bucks
just to make sure it got there.

1513
01:27:58,020 --> 01:28:02,220
Okay, everything's fine. And
then I sent the remaining money

1514
01:28:02,220 --> 01:28:06,990
to the same bitcoin address,
which typically you can do even

1515
01:28:06,990 --> 01:28:10,020
though and I didn't listen to my
sister because she said are you

1516
01:28:10,020 --> 01:28:12,870
supposed to do that use the same
one twice and like I shut up

1517
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:15,990
you're not a Bitcoin er, I know
what I'm doing. But it's but

1518
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:18,960
what the way breeze does it is
it's a submarine swap. So it

1519
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:24,180
comes into the breeze wallet in
enlightening and you can I think

1520
01:28:24,180 --> 01:28:26,880
probably just stopped double
spend or some other accounting

1521
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:32,040
issue you can't reuse that
invoice and so I sent this and

1522
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,130
what had the way they do it is
then after 244 blocks they'll

1523
01:28:35,130 --> 01:28:38,190
refund the money you can choose
where you want to refund it to

1524
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,450
which is on one hand cool though
you can't use the app for that

1525
01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:46,590
for that amount of time. But
while all this took place we had

1526
01:28:46,590 --> 01:28:50,190
the war kick up and then the the
mempool just went to like you

1527
01:28:50,190 --> 01:28:53,910
know oh crap when he sets for V
bite and this this thing was

1528
01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:57,210
just hung in there and I'm
talking to Royce do this is such

1529
01:28:57,210 --> 01:29:00,210
a shit experience. I can't
believe my sister my brother in

1530
01:29:00,210 --> 01:29:02,310
law did like Adams nuts with
this Bitcoin

1531
01:29:03,780 --> 01:29:06,780
but it's the worst possible demo

1532
01:29:07,139 --> 01:29:09,959
right but it worked out and then
they got on lightning and they

1533
01:29:09,959 --> 01:29:12,089
transferred it back and forth.
They were really delighted with

1534
01:29:12,089 --> 01:29:14,789
that but most importantly they
were delighted because have gone

1535
01:29:14,789 --> 01:29:18,749
up 10% Since I sent it to them
like we didn't mind waiting on

1536
01:29:18,749 --> 01:29:22,049
you you fool. And today right
away I made sure that that got

1537
01:29:22,049 --> 01:29:25,649
stricken right off. There you go
boom, you're done. No, no profit

1538
01:29:25,649 --> 01:29:26,519
for you today.

1539
01:29:28,050 --> 01:29:32,010
Dave Jackson says 2400 sets and
he says emptying my wallet for

1540
01:29:32,010 --> 01:29:35,430
February before filling it up
for March go bug Gaston yo yo

1541
01:29:37,740 --> 01:29:42,960
How you doing? Oh, another row.
What did you must have really

1542
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,720
shamed Roy because he sent us
another 123,000

1543
01:29:46,859 --> 01:29:48,119
Holy crap.

1544
01:29:50,010 --> 01:29:56,460
He says for my boy. He says from
Roy with love, also the name of

1545
01:29:56,460 --> 01:29:57,150
a famous movie

1546
01:30:00,359 --> 01:30:03,959
Sure, Roy. Yeah. Thanks, Roy.
Really appreciate it.

1547
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:10,860
22 To 22 Big humongous row of
dogs and he says, this is David

1548
01:30:10,860 --> 01:30:14,700
Leary says to have to do it have
a one of two

1549
01:30:15,630 --> 01:30:17,340
to see I wanted to give him a
little

1550
01:30:21,390 --> 01:30:28,020
Oh, I see he's he says what is
remove? Remove podcast ID

1551
01:30:28,050 --> 01:30:32,190
2062903 And keep podcast ID
9304 90 Okay, this is tech

1552
01:30:32,190 --> 01:30:32,550
support,

1553
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,820
tech support. We love tech
support this paid for. That's

1554
01:30:35,820 --> 01:30:38,400
right. We'll take care of that
right away, sir. No problem. We

1555
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:39,540
love you as a customer.

1556
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:41,820
Putting it to the side. I will
take care of that after the

1557
01:30:43,890 --> 01:30:52,830
drip, drip Scott. He's back.
What 345,678 says Holy crap

1558
01:30:52,830 --> 01:30:56,160
boost boost boost. Nice, man.
Thanks for

1559
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:57,150
cast Matic.

1560
01:30:57,270 --> 01:30:58,470
Oh my goodness.

1561
01:30:58,740 --> 01:31:01,650
He says great show last week, I
learned a lot but it was still a

1562
01:31:01,650 --> 01:31:04,650
bit over my head. And that's
okay, as I'm still new to this

1563
01:31:04,650 --> 01:31:07,140
crypto stuff. I'm still
struggling to understand how to

1564
01:31:07,140 --> 01:31:10,620
get more liquidity into my node.
Can you break it down some some

1565
01:31:10,620 --> 01:31:14,220
more for us slow people. I love
the show drip. Now. If you're

1566
01:31:14,220 --> 01:31:17,010
trying to figure out how to get
more liquidity into your note,

1567
01:31:17,130 --> 01:31:20,760
this is not how you do a drip.
This is sending liquidity out of

1568
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,150
your nose. Yeah, yes, exactly.
This is the wrong strategy.

1569
01:31:24,180 --> 01:31:28,470
You're going the wrong way. I
can look into that and help you

1570
01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:32,520
out drive let me I'll look into
your let me check your node.

1571
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:37,020
This is a Dan you see you're
seeing how this how this is

1572
01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:37,650
done. I mean this

1573
01:31:38,939 --> 01:31:41,399
this is a masterclass for me.
When you

1574
01:31:41,399 --> 01:31:45,239
learn you this would be perfect
for a Dan Benjamin show. Yeah,

1575
01:31:45,299 --> 01:31:51,989
the corner 1000 SATs from
anonymous and it just says I

1576
01:31:51,989 --> 01:31:52,709
love breeze

1577
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:56,220
go well we love you. Boost don't
we? Oh

1578
01:31:56,340 --> 01:32:02,190
yeah. Are no sin 33 33/3 times
lucky happy three three boost.

1579
01:32:02,340 --> 01:32:07,380
Yo are no has been sending some
pull requests for helipads. Oh

1580
01:32:07,380 --> 01:32:10,440
cool. Yeah. Yeah. He's been he's
been doing a lot of work on that

1581
01:32:10,470 --> 01:32:15,030
nice Fun Fact Friday with Lila
and Davidson. This 8050 as as it

1582
01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:18,150
says just ordered parts for our
Umbral if you want to learn

1583
01:32:18,150 --> 01:32:20,940
about artificial intelligence,
you're invited to listen to AI

1584
01:32:20,970 --> 01:32:21,480
cooking.

1585
01:32:21,510 --> 01:32:26,070
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
What is going on here? What is

1586
01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:33,240
happening here so we have we
have Fun Fact Friday, donating

1587
01:32:33,810 --> 01:32:36,120
now I know that they're putting
together parts for their Umbral

1588
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:39,510
cut so i'll post about that. And
then they're promoting comic

1589
01:32:39,510 --> 01:32:42,720
strip bloggers AI cooking this
is very interesting.

1590
01:32:44,910 --> 01:32:47,430
Um, I don't understand I'm
confused

1591
01:32:47,430 --> 01:32:50,880
like in my brain. I'm confused
but I like it. I like it.

1592
01:32:53,670 --> 01:32:57,240
See cash payments and is 33
cents he says okay, ZERO FEES

1593
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,910
did the trick. I like to follow
up

1594
01:33:01,590 --> 01:33:03,900
a little boost the droopy boost
we lose

1595
01:33:05,250 --> 01:33:09,120
1000 SATs from an anonymous user
and you just as boost recovered

1596
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:09,900
Podcast.

1597
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:10,860
I'm very nice. I

1598
01:33:12,689 --> 01:33:15,509
don't know what that means. But
we'll take that. Yeah, what's

1599
01:33:16,319 --> 01:33:20,069
Spencer send us another one. Oh,
this this is just a source like

1600
01:33:20,069 --> 01:33:25,079
a double. This is a 33 369 or
50. That's like a double from

1601
01:33:25,079 --> 01:33:25,679
his earlier was

1602
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:26,790
beautiful. Thank you.

1603
01:33:26,819 --> 01:33:31,709
Thank you very much. David Mitas
and a 3400 cent birthday boost

1604
01:33:31,709 --> 01:33:32,699
for Dred Scott.

1605
01:33:34,410 --> 01:33:39,000
We should probably hit him with
another biscuit for his

1606
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:39,420
birthday.

1607
01:33:39,450 --> 01:33:43,020
They always give me a biscuit on
my birthday. Okay, here's

1608
01:33:43,260 --> 01:33:52,890
1111 11,101 11,111 says and this
is the one of two so this is the

1609
01:33:52,890 --> 01:33:55,320
first half of the other one says
Please remove the fraudulent

1610
01:33:55,350 --> 01:33:56,820
anchor copy of my podcast.

1611
01:33:57,059 --> 01:34:05,069
There you go. Wow. It's tech
support in two parts. Yeah. Very

1612
01:34:05,069 --> 01:34:05,459
good.

1613
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:11,040
Monthly command line boost from
Mike Nolan. Or no Newman, Mike

1614
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:14,730
Newman. always mispronounce it.
Oh, he sent a humongous rush

1615
01:34:14,730 --> 01:34:19,650
boost 21 112 Three the command
line says monthly command line

1616
01:34:19,650 --> 01:34:22,590
boost Adam great interview on
Glenn Beck podcast totally on

1617
01:34:22,590 --> 01:34:24,180
message go podcasting.

1618
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:30,810
No thank you we don't have
marketing meetings we just had

1619
01:34:30,810 --> 01:34:34,170
people boost and say you did a
good job man is fine or like

1620
01:34:34,170 --> 01:34:36,480
dude, you should have hit that
more you know people it's this

1621
01:34:36,480 --> 01:34:38,280
is our this is our messaging
system now.

1622
01:34:39,510 --> 01:34:43,500
We get to lift we get to she's
does drink 5551 things out and

1623
01:34:43,500 --> 01:34:46,770
then he says reply to the last
episode. Dave is the number one

1624
01:34:46,770 --> 01:34:50,730
booster in SATs not an amount of
times boosted okay.

1625
01:34:50,789 --> 01:34:55,379
Oh well who's number one and
amount of times boosted? Oh no.

1626
01:34:56,009 --> 01:35:01,079
I feel like I feel like I'm a
I'm a heel Yeah, I'm not keeping

1627
01:35:01,079 --> 01:35:04,409
up my booster quota. My boat and
my boat. I

1628
01:35:04,410 --> 01:35:06,360
mean, Dan, maybe Dan's a secret
booster.

1629
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:08,370
It's me, isn't he?

1630
01:35:08,670 --> 01:35:16,530
Yeah, Dan's actually drips got
all of our chat. No. Oh, the

1631
01:35:16,530 --> 01:35:17,190
delimiter

1632
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,089
blogger there he is ladies and
gentlemen. What did he What did

1633
01:35:21,089 --> 01:35:21,839
he do for us?

1634
01:35:22,290 --> 01:35:24,270
20,033 sets

1635
01:35:24,300 --> 01:35:25,320
nice thank you.

1636
01:35:25,350 --> 01:35:28,650
He says howdy Dave and Adam
through pod friend this one time

1637
01:35:28,650 --> 01:35:31,920
different message announcement
from the country of Poland to

1638
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,730
look for Ukrainian refugees. You
will be admitted unconditionally

1639
01:35:35,730 --> 01:35:39,270
to Poland including pets. Just
go to Polish border crossings.

1640
01:35:39,450 --> 01:35:42,090
Unlike Hungary and Romania,
Poland uses very similar

1641
01:35:42,090 --> 01:35:45,390
language to to Ukrainian. Poland
will provide you with

1642
01:35:45,390 --> 01:35:49,230
accommodation, food, medical
assistance, etc. And you can

1643
01:35:49,230 --> 01:35:53,310
also work legally if you want.
For more info on in Ukrainian

1644
01:35:53,310 --> 01:35:56,880
and English, the website
uae.gov.pl. If you know

1645
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,920
Ukrainians anywhere, pass it on.

1646
01:35:59,490 --> 01:36:03,090
Wow. All right. Very nice. Very
nice comics for bloggers. Thank

1647
01:36:03,090 --> 01:36:09,240
you. Thanks for Thanks for
supporting the show. Everybody,

1648
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,610
please remember this thing
doesn't run itself.

1649
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,190
She gets a monthly. Oh, we

1650
01:36:14,190 --> 01:36:15,030
got the monthly. Sure.

1651
01:36:15,059 --> 01:36:20,849
Yeah, we get Jeff Miller at $20.
Michael Kimmer 533. Leslie

1652
01:36:20,849 --> 01:36:27,599
Martin $2 Dred Scott again at
$15 a month, Aaron Renaud at $5

1653
01:36:27,629 --> 01:36:33,899
Pedro gone calvus at $5. Chad
Farrow at 20 to $20.22. LORETTA

1654
01:36:33,899 --> 01:36:40,709
Vandenberg at $10. Scottish
Albert at $12. Mark Graham at

1655
01:36:40,709 --> 01:36:45,659
$1. Boris because y'all ski at
$1. Just maraca at $5. And David

1656
01:36:45,659 --> 01:36:47,429
metus. At $10.

1657
01:36:47,700 --> 01:36:50,400
Thank you all very much these
monthly really do make a

1658
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,400
difference. We appreciate that.
And I was actually looking

1659
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,850
should i Did you check the tally
coin by any chance?

1660
01:36:58,020 --> 01:36:59,400
So what about it? Well,

1661
01:36:59,399 --> 01:37:03,299
I was wondering if anyone had if
anyone had sent us any donations

1662
01:37:03,299 --> 01:37:03,929
through?

1663
01:37:04,500 --> 01:37:07,440
Oh, I don't know. The only one
that has access to it. Yeah,

1664
01:37:07,500 --> 01:37:13,500
no. Let me see. No, because it's
public. Public. Yeah, it looks

1665
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:16,140
like we have third. Let me see.
We do have something. Yeah,

1666
01:37:16,170 --> 01:37:23,010
something came in. We have two
payments, no message. And let's

1667
01:37:23,010 --> 01:37:29,160
see. One is 12,840 Satoshis. And
the other one is no name

1668
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:33,510
anonymous, testing out the new
widget. 24,896. Thank you very

1669
01:37:33,510 --> 01:37:38,550
much. Both of you. Yeah, that
works, man. It works. It works.

1670
01:37:38,940 --> 01:37:43,470
Cool. No, it works. Love it.
Thank you all for supporting the

1671
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:46,350
project. Thank you for
supporting the podcast. We

1672
01:37:46,350 --> 01:37:50,280
really appreciate it. And thank
you damn Benjamin for everything

1673
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,820
you've done in podcasting from
early days that you continue to

1674
01:37:53,820 --> 01:37:56,550
do. I mean, I understand this
little side gig. You know, pick

1675
01:37:56,550 --> 01:37:59,580
up some shares, you'll be rich.
Just remember us remember to

1676
01:37:59,580 --> 01:38:00,210
boost us.

1677
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,760
I mean, I wouldn't be here if it
wasn't for you, Adam.

1678
01:38:02,819 --> 01:38:10,859
Ah damn, we got to hang out man.
Are you still in Austin? Right?

1679
01:38:10,859 --> 01:38:13,679
You're still an awesome. Yeah,
we can we gotta have a burger or

1680
01:38:13,679 --> 01:38:14,519
something together. I'd

1681
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:17,070
like to love that. Anytime you
tell me when I'll be there. So

1682
01:38:17,070 --> 01:38:21,240
anything else we can do for you,
sir? enough data and so much.

1683
01:38:22,350 --> 01:38:25,800
I'm sending you pod pinkies.
Okay, thank you. Please do yeah,

1684
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:26,070
get

1685
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:27,360
that that would be great.

1686
01:38:27,390 --> 01:38:30,600
I mean, I just do that I will.
I'm publicly committing to doing

1687
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:31,620
it. It will be great. It's

1688
01:38:31,620 --> 01:38:32,400
so easy.

1689
01:38:32,910 --> 01:38:38,550
And to have that working and to
have your schoolers stuff change

1690
01:38:38,550 --> 01:38:42,030
and work the way you expect it
in the new podcast apps. That

1691
01:38:42,030 --> 01:38:44,010
would be that would be pretty
cool. I think it's interesting.

1692
01:38:44,370 --> 01:38:50,730
If you do. So here, if you put
in pod things where you're

1693
01:38:50,730 --> 01:38:55,050
sending a GET request to the pod
pink cloud system every time

1694
01:38:55,500 --> 01:38:59,730
they feed changes if you if you
do that, then what I what I can

1695
01:38:59,730 --> 01:39:03,240
do is I can set it up to where
we will push back out a website,

1696
01:39:03,690 --> 01:39:07,830
a web sub subscription, like a
web sub ping all yes. If you

1697
01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:09,840
want to do it that way. And then
you can kind of get double bang

1698
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,030
for your buck. We'll just do it.
Do it.

1699
01:39:12,029 --> 01:39:13,259
Let's do it. Let's make it
happen.

1700
01:39:14,069 --> 01:39:16,139
All right, cool. I'll send you
those cases happening.

1701
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:17,580
David. Everything cool with you,
man.

1702
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,450
Yeah, doing good. Yeah, doing
fine. We got he's gonna have a

1703
01:39:21,450 --> 01:39:24,660
debt. Try to have a dev meeting
tomorrow at 12 Central, I think

1704
01:39:24,660 --> 01:39:24,960
is over.

1705
01:39:24,990 --> 01:39:27,450
Oh, that's right. That's right.
Yeah. So I should be able to

1706
01:39:27,450 --> 01:39:29,130
dial in for that. We're gonna

1707
01:39:29,220 --> 01:39:33,630
get to try to discuss the
recommendations tag a little bit

1708
01:39:33,630 --> 01:39:36,780
because we need that things
complicated and we need some we

1709
01:39:36,780 --> 01:39:37,590
need to talk that out.

1710
01:39:37,650 --> 01:39:43,650
Excellent. Excellent. And if you
want to intern for Dave Jones,

1711
01:39:43,650 --> 01:39:44,070
if you want

1712
01:39:45,239 --> 01:39:47,759
to give us one, two, all right,

1713
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:51,630
send everything to Adam at
podcast index.org and I will

1714
01:39:51,630 --> 01:39:53,790
sort through everything and make
sure that you are the right

1715
01:39:53,790 --> 01:39:59,070
candidate for zero pay and
maximum exposure. Alright guys,

1716
01:39:59,070 --> 01:39:59,850
thanks so much.

1717
01:40:02,370 --> 01:40:03,150
Thanks again.

1718
01:40:03,210 --> 01:40:05,640
We'll see you next week
everybody right here podcasting

1719
01:40:05,670 --> 01:40:06,390
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1720
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