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Podcasting 2.0 for May 2nd, 2025, Episode

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219, BudCast.

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Hello, everybody.

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Hello, boardroom.

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Hello, America.

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Hello to the world.

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Welcome to the only board meeting that talks

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about podcasting, because we are podcasting 2.0,

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and coincidentally, the only boardroom that isn't at

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war with Russia.

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I'm Adam Currie, here in the heart of

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the Texas Hill Country, and in Alabama, the

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man I'd rather be vibe coding with than

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Claude or Grok.

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Say hello to my friend on the other

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end, the one, the only, Mr. Dave Jones.

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So as you were introing, I had tooted

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earlier about the show being live, and I

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included, as I always do, this time correctly,

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the episodes.fm link.

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Yeah, although episodes.fm didn't still tell you

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it was undefined?

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Yes, that's what I was about to say.

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It didn't do anything, and then finally the

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open graph tag popped up right at the

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end of your intro, and it just came

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up and it said, undefined.

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I know, I know, I know.

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It sat there for like a minute, and

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then it said undefined.

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This bug has been there for a long

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time.

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Nathan, what are you doing?

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It's undefined.

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Nathan is undefined.

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And I've learned a lot of undefined.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to TWIV.

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This Week in Vibe Coding?

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That's right, This Week in Vibe Coding.

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Did you see my code?

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Did you look at my code?

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What do you think of my code?

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I did not open your Python file because

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I was on the way out the door,

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but I should open it right now.

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Let's look at this thing.

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Yeah, so in the ongoing, and this is

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all podcasting related by the way, and I'll

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tell you what I'm doing.

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Can I just tell you that you sending

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me a Python file is kind of weird?

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Startling in and of itself.

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I'm like, wait, there's an attachment?

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The project I've been working on for, I

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think, four weeks now, which you and I

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together, Vibe Coding, could have done in four

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hours.

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Started out with me using all different kinds

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of AI, trying to get liquid soap to

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work.

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I'll cut right to the chase.

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After trying everything, and I mean everything, even

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Cursor, but Cursor's like, I need an IDE.

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My eyes rolled up in my head like,

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no, no, I don't want that.

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What is Cursor?

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It's another AI that integrates with your IDE,

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and I understand what it does, but I

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want nothing to do with an IDE.

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I just want to copy-paste stuff into

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it, into Nano, okay?

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And then I can go and find log

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files, and I can feed it back to

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you.

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So anyway, long story short, after trying liquid

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soap, after trying ICES, after trying MPD, Music

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Playlist Daemon, and I'm trying to turn an

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MP3 feed of files, so it's a Godcaster

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feed, so it has files from different podcasts

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in there, different hosts, et cetera, turning that

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into an IceCast stream.

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You think it would be easy.

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Ultimately, because I kept saying, liquid soap, I've

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spent at least 20 hours trying to get

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liquid soap to work properly, forget about it.

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That's when, you know, whichever AI I was

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using at the time finally told me I

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needed to recompile my kernel.

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I'm like, okay, you're stupid.

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So what actually finally worked, with some reasonable

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success, using FFmpeg as the streamer to IceCast,

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was doing this in Grok, in SuperGrok.

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SuperGrok, which is grok.com, but for some

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reason it calls itself SuperGrok.

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Is that the one that doesn't have any,

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like, filters, it cusses at you all the

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time?

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I cussed at it.

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It didn't cuss back at me, so I

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don't know about that, but quite impressive at

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creating a Python script.

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I think I've probably worked on this for

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the past four days, and it's really incredible.

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It has zero intelligence.

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Can it parse syntax, and does it understand,

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um, you know, code, and how code should

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probably work?

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Is it intelligent?

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Absolutely not.

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I'm sitting there going, hey, this is obviously

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what's going wrong.

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Maybe you should look at this.

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Oh, you're right.

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Snap.

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Yeah, okay.

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All right.

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Snap.

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Oh, that gets your goat faster than you.

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You hate that.

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You hate the oh, snap.

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Oh, snap.

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This Python script, now, I'm not a Python

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guy.

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I don't, I'm never going to claim to

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know much about Python.

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I can just sort of hammer my way

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through it if I need to fix something,

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but I've never seen Alex Gates cry, but

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I believe this might be the main, the

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ingredient that would make that happen.

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Tell me why.

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Tell me why.

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What is it about the script that, now,

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I've told it to comment things, even include

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whatever you need in your Python environment, all

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the required includes, so I made it document

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stuff all over the place.

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What would make Alex Gates cry?

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Well, I mean, first of all, it's just

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all run together.

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I mean, like trying, you would have to

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go, there's a cursory attempt at some sort

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of documentation in this code.

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Like there's essentially one comment at the top

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of each function that tells you what the

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function is supposed to do, and there's no

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other comments anywhere in the function.

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really have to go through this thing line

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by line for 45 minutes and say, oh,

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okay, what is this doing?

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What is this doing?

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And then, I mean, it's very hard to

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follow.

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The logging is all just straight logging.

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There's no like, yeah, this is rough.

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Well, there you go.

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As long as it works.

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It's going to take over the world, people.

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It's going to rule the world.

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It's so smart.

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No, this is what I thought.

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But there's no Chinese that I can see.

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No, there's no, I look for that as

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well.

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Indeed.

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No Chinese characters, but it does work.

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The hardest part.

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What do you think the hardest part of

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this whole exercise was?

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Now, give me more.

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You're like coding wise?

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No, no, no, no.

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What took the most time to figure out

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and reiterate over and over again to get

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it right?

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What failed the most?

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Come on.

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DNS.

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Close, close second.

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Parsing through, no, parsing through all the permutations

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and variations of URLs to MP3 files.

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And I mean, people have got multiple redirects

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and wrong MIME types.

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And then the file is, you know, you

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can't get the size because there's no size

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in the RSS feed.

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The file itself is, you know, you've got

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images encoded in it and all kinds of

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stuff.

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And that that makes it complicated.

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Then you've got a question mark after the

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dot MP3.

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And that is a whole nother tracking thing.

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And so by the time I took my

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intelligence told Grok, like, you can ignore that.

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That's tracking stuff.

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Wait.

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So you're wait, wait, wait, wait.

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So you're ignoring the URL parameters that come

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after the the the main part of the

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URL?

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Not on the first.

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Well, the first access obviously brings the whole

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thing in, but then it has to parse

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it out to give a proper URL that

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FFMPEG or any other streaming software will understand

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because that all breaks it.

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No streaming software that I could find can

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actually handle redirects and parameters.

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If you're not giving it a straight up

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file URL to an MP3 file without hoops,

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it's all going to break.

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OK, so you're you're saying that you're saying

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that you have to follow the URL redirect

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chain to its final destination, get that final

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URL, then give that to FFMPEG.

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Gotcha.

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Yeah, I got you.

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So that was the hardest part.

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And of all of the different RSS feeds,

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all of them.

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And believe me, I've tried a lot.

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You're getting a tour.

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I got a full one.

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By the way, my heart goes out to

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podcast app developers, man.

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I can only imagine what they have to

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go through.

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Straight up.

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And so what is the there's only one

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host, only one host that constantly blocks my

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script, no matter how I spoof it, no

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matter what refer I give it, no matter

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what identifier I give it, even passing off

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a cookie to it.

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Buzzsprout is the one that will not let

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me create a script to download their MP3

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file because I think those guys are the

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only ones who really try to just stop

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download bullcrap.

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What are you getting back?

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403?

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403.

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So what is the user agent you're using

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to send?

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Tried everything.

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Tried Mozilla, Safari, tried spoofing, because I could

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literally do it in my browser on the

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Brave browser, same machine, same connection, no problem.

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The minute I fire up the script, no

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matter what I was passing off to it,

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and Grok and I did a lot of

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work on this, it would continuously give me

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a 403.

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It's like it identified me and for some

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reason, I know you're no good.

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What is the source IP?

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I mean, not the IP itself, but where

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is this coming from, this traffic?

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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You're right.

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In this case, Linode.

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It's coming from Linode.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Linode.

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And it comes from Linode block.

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Does it work if you come from somewhere

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else to Busbro?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So you're probably running up against an ASN

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block.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Linode, just because it's Linode, that would make

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sense.

284
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Right.

285
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So certain ASNs- ASN stands for what?

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Autonomous system number.

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That's the owner of an IP block.

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Oh yeah.

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Oh, I knew that somehow.

290
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Yeah.

291
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Yeah.

292
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So if you have an ASN that belongs

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to Linode, DigitalOcean, parts of Amazon, Azure, you

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run the risk of getting blocked by some

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of this stuff because the only way you

296
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can do it- Yeah.

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They figure that's going to be some download

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script.

299
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Right.

300
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Right.

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Right.

302
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That's not a real end user.

303
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Yeah.

304
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Yeah.

305
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My point being, Busbro is the only one

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doing it.

307
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Nobody else.

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Nobody else.

309
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Luckily, we know somebody over there.

310
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Oh, no.

311
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I just put it in.

312
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You'll see somewhere in that spaghetti of code,

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you'll see, oh, it's from Busbro.

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Expect to go to 403, just skip ahead.

315
00:11:43,820 --> 00:11:45,400
Well, I'm looking at it right now.

316
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This is headers, user agent, refer Busbro.

317
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There's a bunch of stuff in here from

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Busbro.

319
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Yeah.

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Clean your, yeah.

321
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Yeah.

322
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You got a lot of Busbro avoidance code

323
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in here.

324
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Except for the one thing I can't help,

325
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this actual location of the machine.

326
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It's been fascinating.

327
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However, I will say it works.

328
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I got it to work this morning.

329
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I'm like, holy mackerel.

330
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Now, there's still some buggies in there, but

331
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in general, it works.

332
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It's real.

333
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And so, I got like three streams running

334
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and it's fun to listen to.

335
00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:29,000
It's like, oh, I'm listening to radio all

336
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of a sudden.

337
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I will say that you need to not

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impersonate a browser user agent.

339
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It can seem like the right thing to

340
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do, but ultimately you will run into problems.

341
00:12:45,980 --> 00:12:46,240
Right.

342
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So, what should I impersonate?

343
00:12:47,980 --> 00:12:49,400
Because obviously I'm a machine.

344
00:12:49,980 --> 00:12:51,860
Well, no, you don't need to impersonate anybody.

345
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You just need to give your app a

346
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name and just eat it.

347
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Because if you, like podcast index though, we

348
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do this.

349
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If you're coming from an ASN that belongs

350
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to Amazon or Linode or somebody like, if

351
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you're coming from a hyperscaler ASN and you

352
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claim to be a web browser user agent,

353
00:13:16,740 --> 00:13:17,440
instant block.

354
00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,960
Because I know you're not, nobody's running Mozilla

355
00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:21,420
browser.

356
00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:25,440
Am I masking as Mozilla right now in

357
00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:25,900
that script?

358
00:13:26,700 --> 00:13:26,880
Yeah.

359
00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,180
Your user agent is Chrome.

360
00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:29,500
Well, your user agent is Chrome.

361
00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:30,280
Okay.

362
00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:30,800
All right.

363
00:13:30,860 --> 00:13:33,920
I'll tell it to, I'll change that.

364
00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,060
You shouldn't have any problems, I wouldn't think.

365
00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,760
I mean, you're not getting blocked by, Buzzsprout's

366
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not blocking you because your user agent is

367
00:13:40,380 --> 00:13:40,620
something else.

368
00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:42,320
No, they're blocking because of me.

369
00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:43,260
Just Adam.

370
00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,620
It's like, Adam, no, no, that guy's, he's

371
00:13:45,620 --> 00:13:46,340
up to no good.

372
00:13:46,340 --> 00:13:49,380
It's like, this joker again, kill it.

373
00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:49,820
Yeah.

374
00:13:50,100 --> 00:13:52,900
Now the thing I'd like to do, I

375
00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:54,420
mean, I have so many ideas now that

376
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it's kind of working.

377
00:13:56,180 --> 00:13:58,540
I'd love to be able to somehow hand

378
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off a count.

379
00:13:59,340 --> 00:14:01,400
So if I've got another person listening to

380
00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,520
a stream and it's, hello Dreb Scott, thank

381
00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:05,660
you.

382
00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,920
If I've got another person listening to a

383
00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,380
stream and it's a podcast hosted on Buzzsprout,

384
00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:12,440
I'd love to hand off a, hey, I

385
00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:13,020
got a listener.

386
00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,360
You know, which would, I guess, mean another

387
00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,480
download or whatever, you know, just to just,

388
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or give them a count somehow.

389
00:14:22,060 --> 00:14:22,460
Okay.

390
00:14:22,860 --> 00:14:23,120
Yeah.

391
00:14:23,140 --> 00:14:24,800
Because what you're doing, I'd actually like to

392
00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,500
hand it down the whole stream now, you

393
00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:28,320
know, all the redirects and everything I'd like

394
00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,440
them, I'd like, I want everyone to know

395
00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,020
that there's another person listening and not just

396
00:14:33,020 --> 00:14:34,240
one continuous stream.

397
00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,820
I think that would be fair to do.

398
00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,440
I think you can, I think you can

399
00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,860
follow the redirect chain with some, what you

400
00:14:45,860 --> 00:14:47,520
could do is follow the redirect chain with

401
00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,600
something like curl.

402
00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,730
And then this is a good, this is

403
00:14:54,730 --> 00:14:58,930
actually a good question because I don't know

404
00:14:58,930 --> 00:15:03,250
if a head request would follow a redirect.

405
00:15:03,510 --> 00:15:05,990
No, you'd need the, okay.

406
00:15:06,070 --> 00:15:08,690
You, what you could do is like follow

407
00:15:08,690 --> 00:15:11,370
the redirect chain with, with something like curl

408
00:15:11,370 --> 00:15:16,430
just to get all the intermediate, intermediate hops.

409
00:15:16,670 --> 00:15:16,770
Right.

410
00:15:16,770 --> 00:15:19,410
Give everybody, give everybody a ping.

411
00:15:19,890 --> 00:15:20,930
A heads up.

412
00:15:20,950 --> 00:15:21,130
Yeah.

413
00:15:21,210 --> 00:15:22,130
Give them a heads up.

414
00:15:22,330 --> 00:15:22,570
And then.

415
00:15:22,610 --> 00:15:22,710
Yeah.

416
00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:23,510
I'll put that in eventually.

417
00:15:23,670 --> 00:15:25,210
And then just go straight to the source.

418
00:15:25,370 --> 00:15:25,630
Right.

419
00:15:25,870 --> 00:15:29,150
Well, I give that, I do all that

420
00:15:29,150 --> 00:15:31,630
once, but then once somehow I want to

421
00:15:31,630 --> 00:15:33,870
see if ice cast can then say, oh,

422
00:15:33,890 --> 00:15:34,810
we got another listener.

423
00:15:35,290 --> 00:15:37,890
You're listening to this particular file, follow the

424
00:15:37,890 --> 00:15:39,570
chain, give them a, give them a hit.

425
00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:41,590
You know what I mean?

426
00:15:42,250 --> 00:15:42,690
Yeah.

427
00:15:42,730 --> 00:15:43,870
I think, you know who I think would

428
00:15:43,870 --> 00:15:47,150
be like the master of knowing the proper

429
00:15:47,150 --> 00:15:48,990
way to do this would be John Spurlock.

430
00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:51,410
You're telling me that Grok can't figure this

431
00:15:51,410 --> 00:15:51,630
out.

432
00:15:51,730 --> 00:15:52,970
Grok is the master of all.

433
00:15:53,030 --> 00:15:55,010
It's the best AI ever according to Elon.

434
00:15:55,950 --> 00:15:56,590
Good luck.

435
00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:59,110
The thing I'm most afraid of is if

436
00:15:59,110 --> 00:16:02,510
I actually had to pay for this man,

437
00:16:02,610 --> 00:16:05,250
the amount of computes, the amount of compute

438
00:16:05,250 --> 00:16:07,770
I must've sucked up in resources has got

439
00:16:07,770 --> 00:16:08,930
to be out of control.

440
00:16:08,990 --> 00:16:14,390
And then sometimes Grok just says, oh, I'm

441
00:16:14,390 --> 00:16:14,630
sorry.

442
00:16:14,650 --> 00:16:15,670
I lost the connection.

443
00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:18,990
Regenerate like, like refrag or whatever.

444
00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:21,090
Well, you can click that regenerate button all

445
00:16:21,090 --> 00:16:22,870
you want, but your session's over.

446
00:16:23,490 --> 00:16:25,310
It is almost impossible.

447
00:16:25,310 --> 00:16:25,970
Much.

448
00:16:26,670 --> 00:16:28,770
I got no credits.

449
00:16:29,190 --> 00:16:29,890
I got no credits.

450
00:16:30,270 --> 00:16:32,070
So then you got to start a new

451
00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:34,790
session and say, here's what we were doing.

452
00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:35,330
Get it?

453
00:16:35,410 --> 00:16:37,330
Cause they can't connect to the old session.

454
00:16:37,730 --> 00:16:39,390
This stuff sucks so bad.

455
00:16:40,250 --> 00:16:41,590
It sucks so bad.

456
00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:43,430
And I know that if you and I

457
00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:45,470
had sat down, I'm telling you three, four

458
00:16:45,470 --> 00:16:47,130
hours, we would have banged this out.

459
00:16:47,190 --> 00:16:48,090
It would be working.

460
00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:50,210
This code would have been a 10th of

461
00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:51,150
what this is.

462
00:16:51,810 --> 00:16:52,890
You know, that's.

463
00:16:52,890 --> 00:16:54,510
It would have been in PHP, not Python

464
00:16:54,510 --> 00:16:54,850
though.

465
00:16:55,310 --> 00:16:57,570
I could just say, Hey, this is great.

466
00:16:57,650 --> 00:16:58,450
Do it in PHP.

467
00:16:59,550 --> 00:17:01,230
No, you can tell, you can tell Grok

468
00:17:01,230 --> 00:17:03,130
to convert this script to PHP.

469
00:17:03,390 --> 00:17:03,530
Yeah.

470
00:17:03,569 --> 00:17:03,770
Oh yeah.

471
00:17:03,950 --> 00:17:04,550
I'll try.

472
00:17:06,310 --> 00:17:07,630
That would be fun to watch.

473
00:17:07,990 --> 00:17:08,890
No, no.

474
00:17:08,910 --> 00:17:10,310
I think I'll make it work in Python

475
00:17:10,310 --> 00:17:12,310
now because it suggested Python.

476
00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:13,630
I didn't, I said, what should we do

477
00:17:13,630 --> 00:17:14,349
this in Python?

478
00:17:14,690 --> 00:17:15,010
Okay.

479
00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:16,109
Yeah.

480
00:17:16,410 --> 00:17:18,869
Python's not, it's that's, that's a good choice.

481
00:17:18,990 --> 00:17:19,130
Yeah.

482
00:17:19,589 --> 00:17:19,790
Yeah.

483
00:17:19,790 --> 00:17:20,329
It's a good choice.

484
00:17:20,790 --> 00:17:21,230
Hmm.

485
00:17:22,410 --> 00:17:24,530
I'm look, I'm, I'm impressed.

486
00:17:24,950 --> 00:17:25,710
I'm impressed.

487
00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:31,710
I'm impressed as much by, uh, your persistence.

488
00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:32,750
Yeah.

489
00:17:33,150 --> 00:17:36,030
You know, like what, what is the, you

490
00:17:36,030 --> 00:17:37,550
know, the scripture was at Matthew or it's

491
00:17:37,550 --> 00:17:40,470
like, uh, you know, your name, you know,

492
00:17:40,490 --> 00:17:42,610
your neighbor gets up and goes and bangs

493
00:17:42,610 --> 00:17:43,490
on your door.

494
00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:45,550
I was saying, give me some bread.

495
00:17:45,790 --> 00:17:47,670
And it's like, uh, are they going to

496
00:17:47,670 --> 00:17:49,310
get up because they're your friend and help

497
00:17:49,310 --> 00:17:49,450
you?

498
00:17:49,610 --> 00:17:51,090
No, but they will get up and help

499
00:17:51,090 --> 00:17:52,210
you because of your persistence.

500
00:17:52,530 --> 00:17:52,730
Yeah.

501
00:17:53,670 --> 00:17:55,570
You just keep banging on that door.

502
00:17:55,810 --> 00:17:56,470
Just keep banging.

503
00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:58,690
And eventually they're going to get up and

504
00:17:58,690 --> 00:17:59,290
give you some dinner.

505
00:17:59,570 --> 00:17:59,750
Yeah.

506
00:18:00,350 --> 00:18:00,750
Yeah.

507
00:18:01,210 --> 00:18:04,810
Well, no mere mortal could do this.

508
00:18:04,970 --> 00:18:06,230
I have a, you know, I have 25

509
00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:11,430
years of idiot experience of doing this stuff.

510
00:18:11,490 --> 00:18:12,910
I mean, I can, I can get myself

511
00:18:12,910 --> 00:18:14,630
around a shell, you know, it was like,

512
00:18:14,690 --> 00:18:17,490
I, I know conceptually what it's doing, but

513
00:18:17,490 --> 00:18:19,310
if I'm just some schmo showing up and

514
00:18:19,310 --> 00:18:21,090
saying, Hey, write this for me.

515
00:18:21,130 --> 00:18:24,270
No, not, you already know what the pitfalls

516
00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:27,630
are going to be in pretty much each

517
00:18:27,630 --> 00:18:28,810
step of this process.

518
00:18:28,810 --> 00:18:30,650
If you just go in naively and are

519
00:18:30,650 --> 00:18:32,310
like, Oh, I'm just going to have this

520
00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:34,830
thing down, you know, download or go to

521
00:18:34,830 --> 00:18:36,190
a URL and start streaming.

522
00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:38,050
It's like, no, no, please.

523
00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:39,790
That's not how this works.

524
00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:41,230
No, no, exactly.

525
00:18:41,290 --> 00:18:43,790
But so again, it has, it, it knows

526
00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:45,370
what the next word should be.

527
00:18:45,370 --> 00:18:47,170
It understands syntax.

528
00:18:47,310 --> 00:18:49,170
I mean, the syntax of the language of,

529
00:18:49,170 --> 00:18:52,710
of Python is well-known and it's obviously

530
00:18:52,710 --> 00:18:55,550
been trained on all kinds of, you know,

531
00:18:55,570 --> 00:18:58,570
uh, overstack, uh, was it overstack?

532
00:18:58,910 --> 00:19:02,610
No, what's the way everyone searches for answers

533
00:19:02,610 --> 00:19:04,110
on, uh, on their code.

534
00:19:04,470 --> 00:19:07,370
Is that, uh, why am I saying overstack?

535
00:19:07,390 --> 00:19:08,090
Stack overflow.

536
00:19:08,290 --> 00:19:08,510
Yeah.

537
00:19:08,550 --> 00:19:09,130
Stack overflow.

538
00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:09,630
Yeah.

539
00:19:09,630 --> 00:19:12,750
Obviously it's been trained on all this stuff.

540
00:19:13,490 --> 00:19:13,590
Yeah.

541
00:19:13,650 --> 00:19:13,850
Yeah.

542
00:19:13,970 --> 00:19:18,210
So, so it understands, I'm telling you there

543
00:19:18,210 --> 00:19:20,970
is 0.0 intelligence.

544
00:19:21,250 --> 00:19:24,150
The term intelligence is just get out of

545
00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:24,350
here.

546
00:19:24,510 --> 00:19:26,470
No, there's no intelligence.

547
00:19:26,730 --> 00:19:30,170
It's, I mean, it basically wrote code for

548
00:19:30,170 --> 00:19:32,430
me, the way it would write a marketing

549
00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:34,950
document with someone who doesn't, knows nothing about

550
00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:35,410
marketing.

551
00:19:35,410 --> 00:19:38,150
You get a, you get all this flowery

552
00:19:38,150 --> 00:19:41,030
wording and all this mumbo jumbo, and it's

553
00:19:41,030 --> 00:19:42,150
all way too long.

554
00:19:42,430 --> 00:19:44,470
You know, the same, if you're doing a

555
00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:47,650
resume, you know, a professional will just do

556
00:19:47,650 --> 00:19:50,830
a much better job in much shorter amount

557
00:19:50,830 --> 00:19:51,330
of time.

558
00:19:51,890 --> 00:19:54,550
So what I do a lot is I

559
00:19:54,550 --> 00:19:56,010
search for things.

560
00:19:56,070 --> 00:20:00,150
I just Google search for things that I

561
00:20:00,150 --> 00:20:03,670
kind of already know what the answer is,

562
00:20:03,730 --> 00:20:06,190
but I can't remember the exact syntax.

563
00:20:06,450 --> 00:20:09,230
So a lot, most of pro most of

564
00:20:09,230 --> 00:20:11,910
programming is just interacting with what's called the

565
00:20:11,910 --> 00:20:13,610
standard library for that language.

566
00:20:14,110 --> 00:20:16,210
And so like, you know, it's all your

567
00:20:16,210 --> 00:20:19,710
normal, like, uh, find a string in another

568
00:20:19,710 --> 00:20:23,210
string, uh, print, you know, print to the

569
00:20:23,210 --> 00:20:27,130
print to this, to the console, uh, multiply.

570
00:20:27,390 --> 00:20:28,990
And I mean, it's just, it's like, you

571
00:20:28,990 --> 00:20:31,070
know, it's just a bunch of standard things.

572
00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:33,970
And 90% of your code is going

573
00:20:33,970 --> 00:20:36,670
to be using the standard library, no matter

574
00:20:36,670 --> 00:20:37,710
what language you're in.

575
00:20:38,790 --> 00:20:41,030
And, and so eventually over time, when you

576
00:20:41,030 --> 00:20:43,710
just code in that language enough, you begin

577
00:20:43,710 --> 00:20:48,270
to remember just the standard library stuff, you

578
00:20:48,270 --> 00:20:50,310
know, most of them, but there are, but

579
00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:52,450
standard libraries are large, you know, they got

580
00:20:52,450 --> 00:20:54,170
hundreds of functions in them.

581
00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:55,870
So you can't remember all of it.

582
00:20:56,130 --> 00:20:58,150
And like one that gets me every time

583
00:20:58,150 --> 00:21:01,330
is, um, and especially in PHP is, uh,

584
00:21:01,970 --> 00:21:05,730
uh, P reg replace NP reg match so

585
00:21:05,730 --> 00:21:08,690
that, you know, these are standard library functions

586
00:21:08,690 --> 00:21:12,070
to search a string for a substring using

587
00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:13,210
a regular expression.

588
00:21:13,710 --> 00:21:16,010
And I just can't ever remember what the

589
00:21:16,010 --> 00:21:19,690
syntax is because for it's not like a

590
00:21:19,690 --> 00:21:21,690
lot of PHP functions, because I think it's

591
00:21:21,690 --> 00:21:23,870
like the second function or third, uh, excuse

592
00:21:23,870 --> 00:21:26,630
me, second argument or third argument, you pass

593
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:29,210
in a variable in that variable is going

594
00:21:29,210 --> 00:21:31,370
to receive an argument on output.

595
00:21:31,850 --> 00:21:34,810
And so that's, that's sort of a, that's

596
00:21:34,810 --> 00:21:36,490
a way that C does things.

597
00:21:36,890 --> 00:21:39,130
And you don't really see that in other

598
00:21:39,130 --> 00:21:42,830
languages, but because PHP has C under the

599
00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:44,950
hood a lot, you, you get some of

600
00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:45,650
this functionality.

601
00:21:45,910 --> 00:21:47,710
So I always have to, I'll do like,

602
00:21:47,850 --> 00:21:50,250
uh, I'll just Google search for PHP P

603
00:21:50,250 --> 00:21:50,930
reg replace.

604
00:21:51,490 --> 00:21:51,590
Sure.

605
00:21:52,010 --> 00:21:54,890
And, and I don't, and used to, it

606
00:21:54,890 --> 00:21:56,510
would always just kind of take you to,

607
00:21:56,510 --> 00:22:00,870
uh, the, the PHP website with their documentation.

608
00:22:01,450 --> 00:22:05,410
Now it gives you, uh, an AI hit

609
00:22:06,130 --> 00:22:07,890
using Gemini or something like that.

610
00:22:07,950 --> 00:22:10,310
Or Bing, Bing gives you an AI hit

611
00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:11,450
like every time.

612
00:22:12,550 --> 00:22:15,870
Um, so what I like, so now that's

613
00:22:15,870 --> 00:22:17,410
happening a lot and most of the time

614
00:22:17,410 --> 00:22:18,030
it's fine.

615
00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:19,830
You know, it's just kind of, cause I'm

616
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:21,570
just searching for simple stuff, but I searched

617
00:22:21,570 --> 00:22:24,990
for something the other day and, uh, Bing

618
00:22:24,990 --> 00:22:29,250
came back with, with an answer and it

619
00:22:29,250 --> 00:22:31,170
was a, it was claiming to be just

620
00:22:31,170 --> 00:22:32,330
the standard library.

621
00:22:32,430 --> 00:22:33,870
This is the way you use this function.

622
00:22:34,150 --> 00:22:35,610
And it was completely wrong.

623
00:22:35,790 --> 00:22:36,010
Yeah.

624
00:22:36,790 --> 00:22:37,190
Hallucination.

625
00:22:37,630 --> 00:22:38,010
Yeah.

626
00:22:38,030 --> 00:22:40,410
It was like the, the, the, the parameters

627
00:22:40,410 --> 00:22:42,770
for the function call were just wrong.

628
00:22:42,990 --> 00:22:44,830
And I was like, it called me off

629
00:22:44,830 --> 00:22:46,550
guard cause I was like, what, wait, is

630
00:22:46,550 --> 00:22:46,970
that right?

631
00:22:47,010 --> 00:22:47,730
That doesn't look right.

632
00:22:47,870 --> 00:22:48,570
And here's the thing.

633
00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:51,030
That type of a search that comes back

634
00:22:51,030 --> 00:22:55,470
with an quote unquote AI query result is

635
00:22:55,470 --> 00:22:58,650
seven times more expensive for the search engine

636
00:22:58,650 --> 00:22:59,210
to do.

637
00:22:59,710 --> 00:23:00,190
Yeah.

638
00:23:00,190 --> 00:23:02,970
Then just an Apache get request to php

639
00:23:02,970 --> 00:23:03,530
.net.

640
00:23:03,710 --> 00:23:03,830
Yeah.

641
00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:06,730
I mean, it's, it's, this is the problem

642
00:23:06,730 --> 00:23:11,410
is it's all so expensive where, you know,

643
00:23:11,470 --> 00:23:16,590
it's like, it, it took, you know, it

644
00:23:16,590 --> 00:23:19,590
takes a gigawatt of power to power this

645
00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:20,350
data center.

646
00:23:20,670 --> 00:23:22,550
My brain runs on 20 Watts.

647
00:23:23,730 --> 00:23:25,830
You know, it's like my brain can do

648
00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:26,330
so much.

649
00:23:26,410 --> 00:23:28,550
It's so much more efficient if I've trained

650
00:23:28,550 --> 00:23:30,530
my brain in the right manner to speak

651
00:23:30,530 --> 00:23:31,810
this particular language.

652
00:23:31,810 --> 00:23:34,370
I just don't see the business case for

653
00:23:34,370 --> 00:23:36,990
it other than a lot of bad code

654
00:23:36,990 --> 00:23:38,030
getting put out there.

655
00:23:38,510 --> 00:23:42,910
Well, I mean, I use, um, um, probably

656
00:23:42,910 --> 00:23:44,150
like a lot of people, I use different

657
00:23:44,150 --> 00:23:46,610
browsers for different, um, yeah.

658
00:23:46,610 --> 00:23:49,790
One for porn, one for, yeah, that's, yeah,

659
00:23:49,790 --> 00:23:51,010
that's the one that's all screen.

660
00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:51,710
Yeah.

661
00:23:51,790 --> 00:23:52,170
Yeah.

662
00:23:52,510 --> 00:23:56,270
Um, I use like, uh, I have, for

663
00:23:56,270 --> 00:23:58,590
some reason I've fallen into using edge for

664
00:23:58,590 --> 00:24:01,990
all my Godcaster stuff because really, well, yeah,

665
00:24:02,050 --> 00:24:03,510
because I don't know why it's like we

666
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:05,790
all used to use IE in the web

667
00:24:05,790 --> 00:24:06,670
development world.

668
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:07,270
All right.

669
00:24:07,290 --> 00:24:09,150
We got to check it on internet Explorer.

670
00:24:10,770 --> 00:24:12,390
Oh, we got to have a whole nother

671
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:16,290
version for IE 5.3. Oh man.

672
00:24:16,350 --> 00:24:17,010
It was the worst.

673
00:24:17,270 --> 00:24:19,410
It's like brave's my main browser for everything.

674
00:24:19,470 --> 00:24:21,510
So I keep, it's almost like having different

675
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:22,150
workspaces.

676
00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:24,150
My edge is my Godcaster workspace.

677
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:24,730
Yeah.

678
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:30,310
And, uh, so I still haven't changed the

679
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:33,930
default search engine in edge away from being

680
00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:37,730
to a Google and, uh, which I need

681
00:24:37,730 --> 00:24:38,810
to be using Coggy anyway.

682
00:24:38,930 --> 00:24:41,010
I need to use if you do Coggy

683
00:24:41,010 --> 00:24:43,570
slash assistant, they give you, I pay my

684
00:24:43,570 --> 00:24:45,090
10 bucks a month, whatever it is.

685
00:24:45,370 --> 00:24:48,610
They give you, I think 10 different models

686
00:24:48,610 --> 00:24:50,690
to use for your $10.

687
00:24:51,010 --> 00:24:51,250
Yeah.

688
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:52,230
Yeah.

689
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:53,570
Let me see what they give you.

690
00:24:53,630 --> 00:24:56,190
I think, uh, Alex turned me onto this.

691
00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:58,350
Uh, how much is it for real?

692
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:59,970
Is it like 10 bucks a month?

693
00:24:59,970 --> 00:25:01,490
I think nine, nine something.

694
00:25:02,050 --> 00:25:04,050
So yeah, I've heard nothing but good stuff.

695
00:25:04,150 --> 00:25:04,470
Yeah.

696
00:25:04,490 --> 00:25:08,150
So you get a chat SDPD four Oh

697
00:25:08,150 --> 00:25:11,410
mini four, one mini four, one nano Mistral,

698
00:25:11,570 --> 00:25:14,790
pick stroll Mistral, small three, one Gemini two

699
00:25:14,790 --> 00:25:15,450
Oh flash.

700
00:25:15,610 --> 00:25:19,870
And 2.5 preview Lama three, three, four,

701
00:25:19,870 --> 00:25:22,790
and four scouts of four Maverick Nova light

702
00:25:22,790 --> 00:25:25,490
and deep sea chat V3.

703
00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:28,490
And then if you upgrade, I've not done

704
00:25:28,490 --> 00:25:28,690
that.

705
00:25:28,730 --> 00:25:31,590
You can get Claude three dot seven Gemini

706
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:35,030
2.5 pro preview and grok three.

707
00:25:35,230 --> 00:25:37,750
I get grok three for free, 10 bucks

708
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:39,950
a month for unlimited searches and standard AI.

709
00:25:40,370 --> 00:25:40,470
Okay.

710
00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:41,070
Yeah.

711
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:41,830
Yeah.

712
00:25:41,870 --> 00:25:42,370
That's not bad.

713
00:25:42,510 --> 00:25:42,710
Yeah.

714
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:44,390
I think I'll go ahead and go ahead.

715
00:25:44,450 --> 00:25:46,710
And Coggy is just, and Coggy, if you

716
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:49,270
put in a search query and whatever you're

717
00:25:49,270 --> 00:25:51,050
searching for and you add a question Mark

718
00:25:51,050 --> 00:25:52,770
at the end, it'll give you the AI

719
00:25:52,770 --> 00:25:53,770
hits at the top.

720
00:25:54,350 --> 00:25:56,310
That's a little tip, a little pro tip

721
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:56,790
for you.

722
00:25:56,850 --> 00:25:57,430
A little pro tip.

723
00:25:57,570 --> 00:25:57,750
Okay.

724
00:25:57,750 --> 00:26:00,430
And I think it'll do that just no

725
00:26:00,430 --> 00:26:01,930
matter what, I mean, I don't know.

726
00:26:02,030 --> 00:26:03,530
What am I paying for this stuff?

727
00:26:03,570 --> 00:26:04,570
I think I'm only paying.

728
00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:07,190
How's the search results in Coggy?

729
00:26:07,270 --> 00:26:08,370
I mean, is it comparable to Google?

730
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:10,110
Yeah, it's good enough.

731
00:26:10,530 --> 00:26:13,650
Sometimes for the, now, if I'm really looking

732
00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:17,690
for something obscure, I go over to my,

733
00:26:17,710 --> 00:26:23,170
my start nine and I use, hold on.

734
00:26:23,210 --> 00:26:23,890
What is it called?

735
00:26:27,450 --> 00:26:27,830
Yancey?

736
00:26:28,030 --> 00:26:28,210
Is it?

737
00:26:28,350 --> 00:26:29,030
No, no, no.

738
00:26:29,030 --> 00:26:29,770
It's the other one.

739
00:26:29,890 --> 00:26:30,850
You're on the right track.

740
00:26:30,970 --> 00:26:33,210
No, I use where is it?

741
00:26:33,270 --> 00:26:35,930
Embassy search XNG.

742
00:26:36,770 --> 00:26:38,210
Ooh, I don't even know what this is.

743
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:41,210
So it's a meta search and it's completely

744
00:26:42,490 --> 00:26:42,870
customizable.

745
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:44,730
So it searches, let me see what I'm

746
00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:45,730
set to right now.

747
00:26:47,030 --> 00:26:51,450
So it searches, you can determine different search

748
00:26:51,450 --> 00:26:55,590
engines for different types of queries, dict zone,

749
00:26:56,430 --> 00:27:02,370
Libra translate, lingva, mozi, my memory translated, bing,

750
00:27:02,510 --> 00:27:05,730
brave, duck, duck, go Google, mojik, priest.

751
00:27:05,850 --> 00:27:07,450
I mean, you can set a whole bunch.

752
00:27:08,450 --> 00:27:10,150
It's a meta search.

753
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:11,810
Blending all the results.

754
00:27:12,190 --> 00:27:12,290
Yeah.

755
00:27:12,890 --> 00:27:13,550
I got you.

756
00:27:13,550 --> 00:27:16,610
But if I'm for details on somebody or,

757
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:19,030
you know, some obscure thing from a long

758
00:27:19,030 --> 00:27:22,730
time ago, always, always search XNG.

759
00:27:23,030 --> 00:27:25,270
The problem is I can only access it

760
00:27:25,270 --> 00:27:28,310
over Tor on my, on my start nine.

761
00:27:28,450 --> 00:27:30,010
So it doesn't integrate very well with my

762
00:27:30,010 --> 00:27:30,410
workflow.

763
00:27:30,410 --> 00:27:35,090
So I wind up, you know, copying, pasting,

764
00:27:35,210 --> 00:27:39,470
copying from the Tor browser into a regular

765
00:27:39,470 --> 00:27:39,950
browser.

766
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:41,590
Is it Tor only?

767
00:27:42,430 --> 00:27:43,990
Can you only get to it through Tor?

768
00:27:44,390 --> 00:27:44,710
Yeah.

769
00:27:44,990 --> 00:27:46,810
I mean, you can, you can get to

770
00:27:46,810 --> 00:27:47,030
it.

771
00:27:47,150 --> 00:27:48,390
There's a way to get to it through

772
00:27:48,390 --> 00:27:51,530
dot local, but that fails a lot for

773
00:27:51,530 --> 00:27:53,670
some reason, depending on, you know, Oh, well,

774
00:27:53,670 --> 00:27:54,790
you got your VPN running.

775
00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:55,650
You got this running.

776
00:27:55,710 --> 00:27:56,310
You got that.

777
00:27:56,330 --> 00:27:58,250
And it's like, and it's just, it's too

778
00:27:58,250 --> 00:27:58,770
disruptive.

779
00:27:58,910 --> 00:28:00,390
If I just, you know, you don't want

780
00:28:00,390 --> 00:28:01,370
to get used to something.

781
00:28:01,370 --> 00:28:02,470
And then all of a sudden you're on

782
00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:04,330
the road and like, Oh, Oh, I can't

783
00:28:04,330 --> 00:28:04,890
do it now.

784
00:28:05,150 --> 00:28:08,610
You know, Cotton Jensen, I self host certain,

785
00:28:08,670 --> 00:28:09,690
certain gig.

786
00:28:10,350 --> 00:28:10,710
What?

787
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:12,270
Yeah.

788
00:28:12,990 --> 00:28:13,210
Yeah.

789
00:28:14,850 --> 00:28:17,330
Sear XNG, Sear XNG.

790
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:18,350
That's it.

791
00:28:18,410 --> 00:28:18,550
Okay.

792
00:28:18,550 --> 00:28:19,770
So you can self host it.

793
00:28:19,850 --> 00:28:20,130
Yeah.

794
00:28:20,150 --> 00:28:21,910
I'm self hosting it on my start nine.

795
00:28:21,910 --> 00:28:22,810
Oh, on your start nine.

796
00:28:22,930 --> 00:28:23,130
Yeah.

797
00:28:23,290 --> 00:28:24,050
I got you.

798
00:28:24,150 --> 00:28:24,630
I got you.

799
00:28:24,770 --> 00:28:26,250
But it's just getting to my start nine.

800
00:28:26,430 --> 00:28:27,970
It's Tor or it's complicated.

801
00:28:28,890 --> 00:28:29,770
I got you.

802
00:28:29,950 --> 00:28:30,750
I'm following that.

803
00:28:31,150 --> 00:28:33,470
You got to insert, you know, you got

804
00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:35,990
to add a certain to your browser manually.

805
00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:37,670
Yeah.

806
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:41,090
I'm, I'm already dreading adding SSL to my

807
00:28:41,090 --> 00:28:42,290
ice cast to server.

808
00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:44,110
I can't wait for that process.

809
00:28:44,510 --> 00:28:46,510
That's going to wait until they drop the,

810
00:28:46,510 --> 00:28:50,170
uh, the SSL renewal period to 47 days,

811
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:51,950
which is that coming announced.

812
00:28:52,050 --> 00:28:52,390
Yes.

813
00:28:52,570 --> 00:28:52,930
Yes.

814
00:28:53,210 --> 00:28:53,430
You can.

815
00:28:54,290 --> 00:28:56,190
What a psyop this whole thing was.

816
00:28:56,210 --> 00:28:57,350
I don't need it for this.

817
00:28:58,570 --> 00:29:00,330
I need it for some stuff, but not

818
00:29:00,330 --> 00:29:00,830
for this.

819
00:29:01,330 --> 00:29:04,510
And I, and then Chrome and all these

820
00:29:04,510 --> 00:29:07,530
browsers go, Oh, look at this little bandit

821
00:29:07,530 --> 00:29:09,150
crawling through your window.

822
00:29:09,410 --> 00:29:11,390
Someone might be trying and stealing your stuff.

823
00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:14,270
Are you sure you want to proceed a

824
00:29:14,270 --> 00:29:14,950
bandit?

825
00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:15,450
Yeah.

826
00:29:15,690 --> 00:29:16,750
You've never seen that guy?

827
00:29:16,850 --> 00:29:18,490
A little bandit with the mask with the

828
00:29:18,490 --> 00:29:19,110
mask on.

829
00:29:19,210 --> 00:29:19,390
Yeah.

830
00:29:19,490 --> 00:29:20,810
Like, thanks Google.

831
00:29:21,330 --> 00:29:21,750
Thanks.

832
00:29:22,390 --> 00:29:22,610
Yeah.

833
00:29:23,450 --> 00:29:26,110
Psyoping everybody so that the, you know, you

834
00:29:26,110 --> 00:29:29,170
know what it irritates me about this there

835
00:29:29,170 --> 00:29:31,530
and I'm thinking there has to be a

836
00:29:31,530 --> 00:29:33,330
name for this dark pattern.

837
00:29:33,710 --> 00:29:36,870
I don't, well, it's not fair to call

838
00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:37,670
it a dark pattern.

839
00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:42,250
It's because I don't think it's necessarily, I

840
00:29:42,250 --> 00:29:45,810
don't think it's intentional, but there is an

841
00:29:45,810 --> 00:29:51,990
epidemic now of websites and even native apps

842
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:57,270
that slide new UI components under the thing

843
00:29:57,270 --> 00:29:58,450
you're about to tap on.

844
00:29:59,430 --> 00:30:01,550
So you go to tap on something or

845
00:30:01,550 --> 00:30:04,610
click something and right before you click or

846
00:30:04,610 --> 00:30:07,470
tap, Oh, it pops something up.

847
00:30:07,570 --> 00:30:07,750
Yeah.

848
00:30:08,050 --> 00:30:08,150
Yeah.

849
00:30:09,670 --> 00:30:12,790
It's a, it's a hijacked dark pattern.

850
00:30:13,790 --> 00:30:16,890
And it's like, um, so you, like you

851
00:30:16,890 --> 00:30:19,990
go to click on the website loads.

852
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:23,310
I blame, I blame react, you know, react

853
00:30:23,310 --> 00:30:27,130
based page hydrators, because I think that they,

854
00:30:27,550 --> 00:30:31,590
this, this, this idea of hydration where you

855
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:36,330
load the page in full and then more,

856
00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:39,070
and then the page itself like fills in

857
00:30:39,070 --> 00:30:40,670
its content after the fact.

858
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:43,530
I hate that because I think it, it

859
00:30:43,530 --> 00:30:45,570
makes it, there's like this weird delay that

860
00:30:45,570 --> 00:30:45,870
happens.

861
00:30:45,970 --> 00:30:48,710
You think the website is there in full,

862
00:30:48,910 --> 00:30:50,870
but then, and so you start to interact

863
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:52,690
with it, but right before you do something

864
00:30:52,690 --> 00:30:53,110
changes.

865
00:30:54,050 --> 00:30:55,990
There's also a, who does that?

866
00:30:56,290 --> 00:31:00,410
Um, what's the, uh, the website, uh, how

867
00:31:00,410 --> 00:31:02,030
they do financial information.

868
00:31:02,490 --> 00:31:05,050
They have all kinds of, ah, why can't

869
00:31:05,050 --> 00:31:06,050
I come up with it now?

870
00:31:06,130 --> 00:31:07,550
It's a very famous website.

871
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:10,810
It's got news, but then you, so you're

872
00:31:10,810 --> 00:31:11,530
reading the article.

873
00:31:11,610 --> 00:31:12,230
It'll come to me.

874
00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:14,110
I hope you're reading the article and like,

875
00:31:14,170 --> 00:31:14,710
Oh, this is cool.

876
00:31:14,730 --> 00:31:17,290
And then you scroll and then it pops

877
00:31:17,290 --> 00:31:17,590
up.

878
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:18,930
Don't you want to register?

879
00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:22,910
No, I don't want to register.

880
00:31:23,810 --> 00:31:25,590
I just want to get this article from

881
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:26,270
you for free.

882
00:31:26,270 --> 00:31:28,530
Don't you understand the economy of the web?

883
00:31:31,530 --> 00:31:34,110
We should talk about app, the Apple.

884
00:31:34,690 --> 00:31:34,910
This.

885
00:31:35,150 --> 00:31:35,430
Yeah.

886
00:31:35,610 --> 00:31:36,610
What, what a win.

887
00:31:36,690 --> 00:31:37,930
I'll, I'll read the headline.

888
00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:40,250
I have it here from nine to nine

889
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:41,110
to five Mac.

890
00:31:41,710 --> 00:31:45,210
Apple updates app store guidelines to allow links

891
00:31:45,210 --> 00:31:46,970
to external payments.

892
00:31:47,670 --> 00:31:51,570
The full changes 3.1.1 apps on

893
00:31:51,570 --> 00:31:54,010
the United States storefront are not prohibited from

894
00:31:54,010 --> 00:31:56,630
including buttons, external links, or other calls to

895
00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:59,950
action when allowing users to browse NFT collections

896
00:31:59,950 --> 00:32:00,830
owned by others.

897
00:32:01,050 --> 00:32:01,230
Nice.

898
00:32:02,430 --> 00:32:04,010
Uh, 3.1.1 a on the United

899
00:32:04,010 --> 00:32:06,470
States storefront, there's no prohibition on an app,

900
00:32:06,530 --> 00:32:08,830
including buttons, external links, or other calls to

901
00:32:08,830 --> 00:32:09,110
action.

902
00:32:09,250 --> 00:32:11,570
And no entitlement is required to do so.

903
00:32:12,130 --> 00:32:14,650
The prohibition on encouraging users to use a

904
00:32:14,650 --> 00:32:17,210
purchasing method other than in-app purchase does

905
00:32:17,210 --> 00:32:19,730
not apply on the United States storefront.

906
00:32:20,410 --> 00:32:21,830
This is good news.

907
00:32:22,590 --> 00:32:23,450
Very good.

908
00:32:23,450 --> 00:32:26,690
The, the, the donation known as the funding

909
00:32:26,690 --> 00:32:30,390
link is now approved as if it wasn't

910
00:32:30,390 --> 00:32:33,390
already boosting buttons, not a problem.

911
00:32:34,030 --> 00:32:37,710
So I think it's worth kind of going

912
00:32:37,710 --> 00:32:40,450
back and giving the context of this because

913
00:32:40,450 --> 00:32:41,510
I mean, a lot of people just don't

914
00:32:41,510 --> 00:32:43,370
keep up with this stuff.

915
00:32:43,450 --> 00:32:46,310
Isn't this from the game company lawsuit?

916
00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:47,690
Yes.

917
00:32:47,770 --> 00:32:51,070
So this goes all the way back to,

918
00:32:51,070 --> 00:32:55,450
uh, 2020, uh, is late 2020.

919
00:32:56,490 --> 00:32:59,710
Uh, Apple got sued by Epic games.

920
00:32:59,710 --> 00:33:00,170
Yeah.

921
00:33:00,370 --> 00:33:01,090
Epic games.

922
00:33:01,170 --> 00:33:01,610
That's right.

923
00:33:01,870 --> 00:33:02,070
Yeah.

924
00:33:02,130 --> 00:33:02,370
Yeah.

925
00:33:02,370 --> 00:33:05,510
And it was, it was clearly a, I

926
00:33:05,510 --> 00:33:06,310
mean, it was an intentional.

927
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:08,390
So what, what had happened is Epic had

928
00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:12,350
put in to Fortnite, the, the mobile version

929
00:33:12,350 --> 00:33:16,090
of Fortnite Epic had put in a link

930
00:33:16,090 --> 00:33:17,050
to poison pill.

931
00:33:17,270 --> 00:33:18,590
Oh, poison pill.

932
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:19,130
Hmm.

933
00:33:19,570 --> 00:33:19,770
Yeah.

934
00:33:19,790 --> 00:33:21,670
I mean, they, they intentionally poison pilled the

935
00:33:21,670 --> 00:33:24,510
game, uh, to have an in-app purchase

936
00:33:24,510 --> 00:33:25,030
system.

937
00:33:25,930 --> 00:33:28,670
And, uh, that was not Apple's in-app

938
00:33:28,670 --> 00:33:30,130
store purchase in-app purchase.

939
00:33:30,410 --> 00:33:33,450
And so of course, Apple blocked them, you

940
00:33:33,450 --> 00:33:36,410
know, block the game, the game and Fortnite

941
00:33:36,410 --> 00:33:36,970
sued them.

942
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:40,550
They just needed some premise, you know, to

943
00:33:40,550 --> 00:33:41,970
bring, to take them to court for anti

944
00:33:41,970 --> 00:33:42,870
-competitive behavior.

945
00:33:43,090 --> 00:33:43,190
Yeah.

946
00:33:43,630 --> 00:33:46,430
And so they, they sued them and Epic

947
00:33:46,430 --> 00:33:49,910
removed Fortnite from the app store, uh, withdrew

948
00:33:49,910 --> 00:33:51,670
from the app, from the iOS app store.

949
00:33:52,370 --> 00:33:57,050
And they sued them for, um, for anti

950
00:33:57,050 --> 00:34:00,890
-competitive behavior regarding the 30% app store

951
00:34:00,890 --> 00:34:01,530
commission.

952
00:34:01,850 --> 00:34:02,350
Yeah.

953
00:34:03,010 --> 00:34:05,090
And so this, this all tax, let's just

954
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:06,330
call it what it is tax.

955
00:34:06,570 --> 00:34:06,970
Yeah.

956
00:34:06,970 --> 00:34:07,650
The Apple tax.

957
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:07,969
Yeah.

958
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:11,370
And so, and to be, to be clear.

959
00:34:11,469 --> 00:34:13,650
So the, you know, for people who may

960
00:34:13,650 --> 00:34:19,090
not understand how this works, Apple in the

961
00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:23,210
iOS app store, which applies to, uh, iPhones,

962
00:34:23,389 --> 00:34:27,810
iPads, they make a distinction between digital goods

963
00:34:27,810 --> 00:34:28,850
and physical goods.

964
00:34:29,370 --> 00:34:31,370
So if you, that's why you can use

965
00:34:31,370 --> 00:34:33,850
the Amazon app and you can make, you

966
00:34:33,850 --> 00:34:35,949
know, purchase, you know, a book and have

967
00:34:35,949 --> 00:34:37,730
it sent to your house for cash.

968
00:34:37,830 --> 00:34:38,750
And there's just no problem.

969
00:34:38,850 --> 00:34:40,370
It's a seamless experience.

970
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:43,290
But if you try to buy digital goods,

971
00:34:43,989 --> 00:34:48,449
things like streaming music, streaming movies, um, you

972
00:34:48,449 --> 00:34:51,090
know, pot, let's say podcasts.

973
00:34:51,810 --> 00:34:54,690
If you try to buy anything digital, it,

974
00:34:55,210 --> 00:34:57,390
you, what they had was a pod, that

975
00:34:57,390 --> 00:35:00,550
app store policy that required you to use

976
00:35:00,550 --> 00:35:02,570
to a use in app purchase.

977
00:35:03,110 --> 00:35:06,010
You had to, you can't, you could not

978
00:35:06,010 --> 00:35:08,690
use your own payment system and you could

979
00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:12,270
not link out to an alternative payment system.

980
00:35:13,410 --> 00:35:18,570
Um, and you could also not promote the

981
00:35:18,570 --> 00:35:21,650
fact that you even had another alternative payment

982
00:35:21,650 --> 00:35:22,090
system.

983
00:35:22,290 --> 00:35:24,570
You could not even put wording, even if

984
00:35:24,570 --> 00:35:26,690
you didn't link to it, you couldn't even

985
00:35:26,690 --> 00:35:29,630
put wording in your app saying that it

986
00:35:29,630 --> 00:35:33,130
was available at some, as some other place

987
00:35:33,130 --> 00:35:33,990
to go get it.

988
00:35:34,350 --> 00:35:37,890
And this is at that time that Epic

989
00:35:37,890 --> 00:35:42,230
sued and you could not communicate with your

990
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:45,870
customers through even through like an email or

991
00:35:45,870 --> 00:35:48,490
something like that saying that there was any

992
00:35:48,490 --> 00:35:49,070
alternative.

993
00:35:49,710 --> 00:35:50,050
Bastards.

994
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:52,710
I mean, it was complete lockdown.

995
00:35:53,130 --> 00:35:53,250
Yeah.

996
00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:57,450
You know, just actual prohibitions against the way

997
00:35:57,450 --> 00:35:59,190
you communicate with your own customers.

998
00:35:59,310 --> 00:36:03,470
That's how, that's how thorough their blocking of

999
00:36:03,470 --> 00:36:04,030
this was.

1000
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:06,990
And as a result, you had to pay

1001
00:36:06,990 --> 00:36:11,770
the in-app service in-app purchase commission

1002
00:36:11,770 --> 00:36:13,170
of 30%.

1003
00:36:13,170 --> 00:36:15,830
So Apple gets 30% of everything that

1004
00:36:15,830 --> 00:36:16,890
you do through in-app purchase.

1005
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:19,150
So that's what Epic sued them about.

1006
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:23,310
Um, so that's like, uh, what, what is

1007
00:36:23,310 --> 00:36:25,270
the word I'm looking for when you were,

1008
00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:28,110
uh, back in the old days, you were

1009
00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:30,610
the, the owner of the castle and the

1010
00:36:30,610 --> 00:36:33,210
land, and then you made all your plebs

1011
00:36:33,210 --> 00:36:35,750
working the land where the feudalism.

1012
00:36:35,970 --> 00:36:36,450
Feudalism.

1013
00:36:37,230 --> 00:36:38,470
Digital feudalism.

1014
00:36:38,670 --> 00:36:39,010
That's it.

1015
00:36:39,050 --> 00:36:39,310
Yeah.

1016
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:39,890
Yeah.

1017
00:36:40,070 --> 00:36:40,290
Yeah.

1018
00:36:40,290 --> 00:36:42,470
We're just, we're all, uh, digital sharecroppers.

1019
00:36:44,250 --> 00:36:49,050
Um, so, you know, they, Epic did not

1020
00:36:49,050 --> 00:36:51,270
want to be a digital sharecropper, so they

1021
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:55,870
sued Apple, uh, and on paper, Apple lost

1022
00:36:55,870 --> 00:36:56,530
that case.

1023
00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:57,190
Right.

1024
00:36:57,330 --> 00:36:59,430
And then they went nana, nana, nana.

1025
00:37:00,050 --> 00:37:00,630
Yeah.

1026
00:37:00,630 --> 00:37:04,790
And the judge ruled that they had to

1027
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:09,930
allow apps to link out from their app

1028
00:37:09,930 --> 00:37:15,110
to an external payment platform, uh, somewhere else.

1029
00:37:15,230 --> 00:37:17,610
So their website was Stripe or something like

1030
00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:17,970
that.

1031
00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:22,390
But, but in reality, nothing actually changed because

1032
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:24,990
what Apple, what Apple did a handful of

1033
00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:28,930
things in their, in like the way they

1034
00:37:28,930 --> 00:37:30,850
complied, they did a handful of things that

1035
00:37:30,850 --> 00:37:32,750
made nobody actually want to do it.

1036
00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:33,170
Right.

1037
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:37,950
And the things they did was they, the

1038
00:37:37,950 --> 00:37:39,670
first thing they did was, uh, they made

1039
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:42,630
you, uh, if you were going to put

1040
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:45,270
a link to an external method of payment

1041
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:48,450
in your app, you, so let's, let's just

1042
00:37:48,450 --> 00:37:50,970
say you're, let's say you're Spotify and you

1043
00:37:50,970 --> 00:37:52,330
want to put a link in your app

1044
00:37:52,330 --> 00:37:55,710
on the profile screen saying, you know, Hey,

1045
00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:58,630
if you want to upgrade from premium to

1046
00:37:58,630 --> 00:38:02,210
family package, uh, click this link and go

1047
00:38:02,210 --> 00:38:03,970
to our website and upgrade your account.

1048
00:38:03,970 --> 00:38:04,270
Right.

1049
00:38:04,810 --> 00:38:06,610
If you wanted to do that, you had

1050
00:38:06,610 --> 00:38:09,670
to ask for an entitlement.

1051
00:38:10,290 --> 00:38:10,770
Yes.

1052
00:38:11,090 --> 00:38:13,070
I'm very familiar with the entitlements.

1053
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:14,470
You want to use mapping function.

1054
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:17,150
You got to get an entitlement, which means

1055
00:38:17,150 --> 00:38:18,610
they know exactly what you're doing.

1056
00:38:19,390 --> 00:38:21,010
So they created a new entitlement.

1057
00:38:22,750 --> 00:38:27,790
The name Dave entitlement, you are now entitled

1058
00:38:27,790 --> 00:38:29,890
to do that, but we can remove your

1059
00:38:29,890 --> 00:38:30,470
entitlement.

1060
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:32,230
You play whenever we wish.

1061
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:33,150
Yeah.

1062
00:38:33,250 --> 00:38:35,670
Baked into the word entitlement is the threat

1063
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:38,150
of removal of that entitlement at any moment.

1064
00:38:38,590 --> 00:38:38,950
That's right.

1065
00:38:40,030 --> 00:38:42,330
Um, so they, first you had to ask

1066
00:38:42,330 --> 00:38:46,530
for and hopefully receive an entitlement from Apple,

1067
00:38:46,930 --> 00:38:48,850
allowing you to put a link in there.

1068
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:52,850
Then next of all, they put in, when

1069
00:38:52,850 --> 00:38:56,350
you click the link, they put in a

1070
00:38:56,350 --> 00:38:59,070
interstitial like scare screen.

1071
00:39:00,650 --> 00:39:03,130
You're going to an external, Oh, here's, here's

1072
00:39:03,130 --> 00:39:04,970
a, here's a bandit with a mask.

1073
00:39:05,370 --> 00:39:06,750
You might be, you might be getting ripped

1074
00:39:06,750 --> 00:39:07,210
off.

1075
00:39:07,890 --> 00:39:09,810
I just linked to it in the boardroom.

1076
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:14,090
The scare screen is like this big, scary

1077
00:39:14,090 --> 00:39:15,650
thing that says you're about to leave the

1078
00:39:15,650 --> 00:39:17,250
app and go to an external website.

1079
00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:19,650
Apple's not responsible for the privacy or security

1080
00:39:19,650 --> 00:39:21,410
of purchases made on the web, blah, blah,

1081
00:39:21,450 --> 00:39:22,250
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1082
00:39:22,770 --> 00:39:25,250
It's like, it's a full screen notice.

1083
00:39:25,710 --> 00:39:25,970
Yeah.

1084
00:39:25,970 --> 00:39:28,250
It tries to scare people away from actually

1085
00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:28,850
doing it.

1086
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:34,390
Um, and then finally they, uh, they did

1087
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:37,690
not get rid of, they, they didn't forfeit

1088
00:39:37,690 --> 00:39:40,490
their, their 30% Apple tax commission.

1089
00:39:41,230 --> 00:39:44,510
What they did was they took the credit

1090
00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:46,710
card fee, which was like 3%.

1091
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:50,270
They cut that because now you're going to

1092
00:39:50,270 --> 00:39:52,010
be using your own credit card processing.

1093
00:39:52,070 --> 00:39:54,430
So that cut it down to 27%.

1094
00:39:54,430 --> 00:39:57,210
And instead they just charge you 27%

1095
00:39:57,210 --> 00:40:00,790
for all outside purchases and you have to

1096
00:40:00,790 --> 00:40:04,330
do your own ledger keeping and report it.

1097
00:40:04,510 --> 00:40:04,610
Yeah.

1098
00:40:04,610 --> 00:40:06,810
It's worse than a ASCAP BMI.

1099
00:40:07,610 --> 00:40:07,910
Yeah.

1100
00:40:08,310 --> 00:40:08,490
Yeah.

1101
00:40:08,810 --> 00:40:10,330
So you can, yeah, it's like, yeah, you

1102
00:40:10,330 --> 00:40:12,370
can, you can take payments if you want

1103
00:40:12,370 --> 00:40:14,530
to on your own website using Stripe, but

1104
00:40:14,530 --> 00:40:15,710
you're going to have to track every one

1105
00:40:15,710 --> 00:40:17,450
of those payments, add up 20% and

1106
00:40:17,450 --> 00:40:18,770
send us a check once a month.

1107
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:20,650
Like who in the world is going to,

1108
00:40:20,730 --> 00:40:21,510
nobody's going to do that.

1109
00:40:21,610 --> 00:40:24,150
So I would love for podcast apps, if

1110
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:30,470
funding tag equals one surface, the funding tag,

1111
00:40:30,530 --> 00:40:31,490
nice and big.

1112
00:40:31,590 --> 00:40:33,670
And I'll tell you what's really exciting because

1113
00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:36,290
we're seeing this with the Godcaster app that's

1114
00:40:36,290 --> 00:40:37,210
being built right now.

1115
00:40:37,950 --> 00:40:40,410
Uh, there's an option in the funding tag

1116
00:40:40,410 --> 00:40:43,610
to put in text what you want the

1117
00:40:43,610 --> 00:40:45,690
funding tag to say.

1118
00:40:45,690 --> 00:40:48,910
And so if I look at the app,

1119
00:40:49,390 --> 00:40:53,510
you know, some say give, some say support

1120
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:54,190
the show.

1121
00:40:54,430 --> 00:40:55,750
Some say donate now.

1122
00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:57,790
Now I understand there's issues with how much

1123
00:40:57,790 --> 00:40:59,890
text people put in and how that fits

1124
00:40:59,890 --> 00:41:02,010
into a button, but when you figure that

1125
00:41:02,010 --> 00:41:03,430
stuff out, it's sexy.

1126
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:06,850
It's really, I mean, that's, it's different, man,

1127
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:08,430
because it's like, you, you want to have

1128
00:41:08,430 --> 00:41:10,210
a, you know, you want to have a,

1129
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:12,610
you know, depending on what your show is,

1130
00:41:12,690 --> 00:41:14,490
what that page is, where you go to,

1131
00:41:15,050 --> 00:41:17,490
I mean, I might want to say, uh,

1132
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:18,590
support us with PayPal.

1133
00:41:18,650 --> 00:41:19,670
And then you hit that.

1134
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:21,930
It goes right into the PayPal pay payment,

1135
00:41:22,050 --> 00:41:25,570
uh, page, you know, straight in with a

1136
00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:25,850
code.

1137
00:41:25,850 --> 00:41:27,250
So I know it came from the app.

1138
00:41:27,290 --> 00:41:28,590
I mean, there's lots of cool stuff you

1139
00:41:28,590 --> 00:41:29,350
can do with that.

1140
00:41:29,870 --> 00:41:32,090
And this will drive innovation.

1141
00:41:33,050 --> 00:41:35,470
This will drive adoption of this tag.

1142
00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:40,550
So, you know, we, we have, particularly for

1143
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:41,470
Patreon people.

1144
00:41:42,130 --> 00:41:44,450
Well, see this fixes the, yeah, I mean,

1145
00:41:44,450 --> 00:41:46,630
this fixes the Patreon, Patreon's problem.

1146
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:47,070
Yep.

1147
00:41:48,050 --> 00:41:50,050
You know, they, they had this, they had

1148
00:41:50,050 --> 00:41:54,590
the, this issue of, uh, getting pulled into

1149
00:41:55,690 --> 00:41:57,970
this, this digital goods commission problem.

1150
00:41:58,770 --> 00:42:00,470
And this fixes it because they can go,

1151
00:42:00,470 --> 00:42:02,910
they can link out to their own, to

1152
00:42:02,910 --> 00:42:06,530
their own, um, payment platform.

1153
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:10,170
I mean, the, the judge's ruling on this

1154
00:42:10,170 --> 00:42:12,970
was about the most scathing thing I've ever

1155
00:42:12,970 --> 00:42:13,110
written.

1156
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:15,270
80 pages of you guys suck.

1157
00:42:16,190 --> 00:42:16,370
Yeah.

1158
00:42:16,370 --> 00:42:19,750
I mean, Apple was in, she said Apple

1159
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:21,830
was in willful violation of the court order

1160
00:42:21,830 --> 00:42:23,070
and lied about it.

1161
00:42:23,070 --> 00:42:25,030
And it's being referred to the U S

1162
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:26,910
district attorney for criminal process.

1163
00:42:27,790 --> 00:42:29,690
AG Barbie coming down on you.

1164
00:42:31,230 --> 00:42:32,670
Barbie's dropping the ball.

1165
00:42:32,890 --> 00:42:36,270
I mean, what, what is, you know, so

1166
00:42:36,270 --> 00:42:37,810
what does it mean?

1167
00:42:37,890 --> 00:42:42,090
So they, the judge ruled yesterday that basically

1168
00:42:42,090 --> 00:42:46,970
all this, what Apple did after that initial

1169
00:42:46,970 --> 00:42:49,970
ruling was willful violation of what her order

1170
00:42:49,970 --> 00:42:50,370
was.

1171
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:56,770
So as of today, uh, Apple changed their

1172
00:42:56,770 --> 00:42:59,870
guide, their app store guidelines, uh, to make

1173
00:42:59,870 --> 00:43:02,150
the language clear that you can put a

1174
00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:05,070
link into your, into your app to an

1175
00:43:05,070 --> 00:43:09,630
external purchase flow or, or funding option, uh,

1176
00:43:09,630 --> 00:43:12,030
without needing any sort of entitlements and without

1177
00:43:12,030 --> 00:43:14,210
any scare screens and without paying any sort

1178
00:43:14,210 --> 00:43:15,290
of commission to Apple.

1179
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:17,430
They didn't actually say without scare screens.

1180
00:43:17,550 --> 00:43:19,630
I don't think they said that specifically, to

1181
00:43:19,630 --> 00:43:20,910
be honest about it.

1182
00:43:20,910 --> 00:43:22,530
It said, well, let's see.

1183
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:26,010
It says, um, doesn't say without scare screens.

1184
00:43:26,010 --> 00:43:28,870
She referred to that in her ruling.

1185
00:43:29,010 --> 00:43:29,570
Oh, she did.

1186
00:43:30,050 --> 00:43:30,590
She did.

1187
00:43:30,690 --> 00:43:34,190
She's, uh, she specifically said that, uh, that

1188
00:43:34,190 --> 00:43:37,190
was part of their willful violation is thing

1189
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:43,550
is, uh, scaring using language to scare impose

1190
00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:46,210
new barriers and new requirements to increase friction,

1191
00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:49,430
increasing breakage rates with full page scare screens.

1192
00:43:49,630 --> 00:43:51,050
So that's what they did.

1193
00:43:52,070 --> 00:43:54,330
Uh, let me see what else here.

1194
00:43:56,290 --> 00:43:59,070
So this was the link entitlement because you

1195
00:43:59,070 --> 00:43:59,850
had the scarce.

1196
00:43:59,930 --> 00:44:01,270
Oh, she has a whole section here.

1197
00:44:02,170 --> 00:44:02,270
Yeah.

1198
00:44:02,370 --> 00:44:03,210
Apple deployed.

1199
00:44:03,330 --> 00:44:03,670
Oh yeah.

1200
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:05,510
And even with yours, did you get that

1201
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:07,870
straight from the, from the ruling that picture?

1202
00:44:07,970 --> 00:44:08,930
That's the same picture.

1203
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:09,250
Okay.

1204
00:44:09,290 --> 00:44:10,750
So we're on the, we're literally on the

1205
00:44:10,750 --> 00:44:11,450
same page.

1206
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:12,470
Wow.

1207
00:44:13,330 --> 00:44:14,770
Um, let's see.

1208
00:44:15,330 --> 00:44:19,230
Um, and so yeah, the, so the changes

1209
00:44:19,230 --> 00:44:21,830
they made, uh, you read some of it

1210
00:44:21,830 --> 00:44:24,890
earlier, the external link account, you know, all

1211
00:44:24,890 --> 00:44:27,990
that stuff's not required and it's plain language.

1212
00:44:28,110 --> 00:44:30,810
The prohibition on, uh, this is from the

1213
00:44:30,810 --> 00:44:33,210
Apple's terms of service, the prohibition on encouraging

1214
00:44:33,210 --> 00:44:36,210
users to use a purchasing method other than

1215
00:44:36,210 --> 00:44:38,150
in that purchase does not apply.

1216
00:44:39,490 --> 00:44:43,250
So you are, there is no barrier to

1217
00:44:43,250 --> 00:44:47,250
you putting a, a funding tag or any

1218
00:44:47,250 --> 00:44:50,570
sort of like top up your wallet type

1219
00:44:50,570 --> 00:44:53,970
tag, uh, type of button or link or

1220
00:44:53,970 --> 00:44:56,710
anything like that in your app.

1221
00:44:57,090 --> 00:44:59,010
If I, if I was Apple at this

1222
00:44:59,010 --> 00:45:00,230
moment, you know what I do?

1223
00:45:00,910 --> 00:45:02,650
I'd front run this thing.

1224
00:45:02,670 --> 00:45:05,250
I'd be putting digital wallets, uh, in the

1225
00:45:05,250 --> 00:45:06,170
SDKs.

1226
00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:08,950
I'd be getting, you know, stable coin, lightning,

1227
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:10,690
Monero, everything.

1228
00:45:10,690 --> 00:45:13,650
I'd be front running that and become the

1229
00:45:13,650 --> 00:45:16,850
master of the universe at owning that concept,

1230
00:45:16,930 --> 00:45:19,810
not owning the money or owning anything, but

1231
00:45:19,810 --> 00:45:21,910
being the, you know, being the, you know,

1232
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:26,970
have a sanctioned, uh, do Hickey in the,

1233
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:29,490
in the SDKs, you know, whatever it's called,

1234
00:45:29,530 --> 00:45:32,090
uh, I would be front running that.

1235
00:45:33,450 --> 00:45:35,190
You mean, you mean competing?

1236
00:45:35,390 --> 00:45:36,310
No, I, yeah.

1237
00:45:36,490 --> 00:45:39,150
Competing against the, against any other wallets.

1238
00:45:39,150 --> 00:45:39,570
Sure.

1239
00:45:40,450 --> 00:45:40,570
Yeah.

1240
00:45:40,910 --> 00:45:41,110
Yeah.

1241
00:45:41,170 --> 00:45:41,570
Compete.

1242
00:45:41,770 --> 00:45:43,590
I mean, and that's all anybody ever wanted

1243
00:45:43,590 --> 00:45:47,790
was, was just, you know, competition and like

1244
00:45:47,790 --> 00:45:53,090
the, every company immediately, I mean, as of

1245
00:45:53,090 --> 00:45:57,810
starting like today, apps are already changing and

1246
00:45:57,810 --> 00:46:00,130
putting this stuff into their Spotify already.

1247
00:46:00,270 --> 00:46:02,310
They already submitted an update and it was

1248
00:46:02,310 --> 00:46:02,750
approved.

1249
00:46:02,890 --> 00:46:05,530
So now you can change your music and

1250
00:46:05,530 --> 00:46:06,530
you can buy your music.

1251
00:46:07,110 --> 00:46:07,610
Yes.

1252
00:46:08,770 --> 00:46:08,950
Wow.

1253
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:12,530
Did that send their stock price skyrocketing?

1254
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:13,050
Let me check.

1255
00:46:13,050 --> 00:46:14,390
You know, it may have, that's a good

1256
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:14,770
question.

1257
00:46:15,150 --> 00:46:17,410
Spotify stock price.

1258
00:46:17,530 --> 00:46:18,530
Let me check it out.

1259
00:46:19,170 --> 00:46:20,250
I'd be buying that.

1260
00:46:20,350 --> 00:46:30,870
Oh, they tanked with 11.72%. Not

1261
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:33,950
sure what happened there, but yeah.

1262
00:46:33,950 --> 00:46:34,170
Yeah.

1263
00:46:36,090 --> 00:46:37,430
What happened there?

1264
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:38,290
That's a good question.

1265
00:46:39,050 --> 00:46:40,790
Spotify, they, they updated their app today.

1266
00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:45,670
Proton updated their app and they're sending out

1267
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:48,450
emails to users saying, you know, basically pre

1268
00:46:48,450 --> 00:46:52,170
please go and uns and resubscribe to your

1269
00:46:52,170 --> 00:46:55,430
account using our platform instead of Apple.

1270
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:55,850
Yep.

1271
00:46:55,870 --> 00:46:56,110
Yep.

1272
00:46:56,110 --> 00:46:56,350
Yep.

1273
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:56,590
Yep.

1274
00:46:56,590 --> 00:46:57,310
Oh, that's great.

1275
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:59,690
But the markets, the markets are up today,

1276
00:46:59,790 --> 00:47:01,330
300 points on the NASDAQ.

1277
00:47:01,430 --> 00:47:06,490
So it's interesting that well, they suck first

1278
00:47:06,490 --> 00:47:08,290
and foremost, let's be honest.

1279
00:47:09,390 --> 00:47:11,850
Um, and, and this will float, this will

1280
00:47:11,850 --> 00:47:14,190
flow to Google as well because Google is

1281
00:47:14,190 --> 00:47:16,890
embroiled in their embroiled in their own antitrust

1282
00:47:16,890 --> 00:47:19,830
stuff and they're not going to go near

1283
00:47:19,830 --> 00:47:21,870
anything that looks like this.

1284
00:47:22,410 --> 00:47:25,350
You know, they're going to, they're not this,

1285
00:47:25,570 --> 00:47:29,710
this will have a chilling effect on, on

1286
00:47:29,710 --> 00:47:33,350
the big, uh, on, on Apple and Google

1287
00:47:33,350 --> 00:47:33,770
both.

1288
00:47:34,030 --> 00:47:34,130
Sure.

1289
00:47:34,510 --> 00:47:38,090
I think this is, this is probably the

1290
00:47:38,090 --> 00:47:41,970
best outcome we could have possibly hoped for

1291
00:47:41,970 --> 00:47:43,470
big time for clarity.

1292
00:47:43,690 --> 00:47:44,210
Yeah.

1293
00:47:44,430 --> 00:47:45,070
No, I love it.

1294
00:47:45,130 --> 00:47:46,110
I love it.

1295
00:47:46,170 --> 00:47:46,930
What is it not?

1296
00:47:46,990 --> 00:47:47,610
But what, okay.

1297
00:47:47,610 --> 00:47:48,630
What does it not mean?

1298
00:47:48,750 --> 00:47:49,970
It does not.

1299
00:47:50,510 --> 00:47:53,570
It's only about linking out to an external

1300
00:47:53,570 --> 00:47:54,570
payment platform.

1301
00:47:54,730 --> 00:47:54,990
Yep.

1302
00:47:55,630 --> 00:47:57,690
You, it still doesn't mean that you can

1303
00:47:57,690 --> 00:48:02,030
put your own in-app purchase mechanism inside

1304
00:48:02,030 --> 00:48:02,650
your app.

1305
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:04,150
No, you have to link it out.

1306
00:48:04,970 --> 00:48:05,210
Yeah.

1307
00:48:05,710 --> 00:48:10,070
So, um, so like if you, if you

1308
00:48:10,070 --> 00:48:12,470
continue, if you continue using an, uh, you

1309
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:16,030
know, like, uh, in-app purchase, you're still

1310
00:48:16,030 --> 00:48:18,370
going to be paying apples 30% or

1311
00:48:18,370 --> 00:48:20,070
15% if you're a small business.

1312
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:20,310
Yeah.

1313
00:48:20,810 --> 00:48:22,970
And it doesn't seem like, I mean, the

1314
00:48:22,970 --> 00:48:24,750
court's not requiring them to change that at

1315
00:48:24,750 --> 00:48:25,070
all.

1316
00:48:25,730 --> 00:48:28,310
So, so baking stripe or some other payment

1317
00:48:28,310 --> 00:48:31,410
API directly into your app is not okay,

1318
00:48:31,410 --> 00:48:35,650
but this, you know, fully clears the way

1319
00:48:35,650 --> 00:48:38,510
for adding a link in your podcast app

1320
00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:39,690
to the funding tag.

1321
00:48:40,430 --> 00:48:43,450
Um, it also clears the way for apps

1322
00:48:43,450 --> 00:48:46,210
like true fans to put a link in

1323
00:48:46,210 --> 00:48:48,870
their app where a listener can bounce out

1324
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:51,390
to their website and top up their wallet

1325
00:48:51,390 --> 00:48:53,910
and then come back into the app and

1326
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:54,710
use that money.

1327
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:55,030
Yep.

1328
00:48:55,170 --> 00:48:55,390
Yep.

1329
00:48:55,490 --> 00:48:55,730
Yep.

1330
00:48:55,790 --> 00:48:56,010
Yep.

1331
00:48:56,190 --> 00:48:58,130
That, that way true fans doesn't have to

1332
00:48:58,130 --> 00:49:00,630
eat that 30% of in-app purchase,

1333
00:49:01,030 --> 00:49:02,950
which I'm sure Sam wasn't eating anyway.

1334
00:49:02,990 --> 00:49:04,370
I'm sure you figured out a way around

1335
00:49:04,370 --> 00:49:04,710
that.

1336
00:49:05,470 --> 00:49:06,170
Yeah, maybe.

1337
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:06,890
I don't know.

1338
00:49:07,110 --> 00:49:08,870
I mean, he's still, he's still trying to

1339
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:10,950
launch, you know, so who knows how much

1340
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:12,930
he's price and flexibility he has.

1341
00:49:13,090 --> 00:49:13,330
Yeah.

1342
00:49:14,190 --> 00:49:16,350
Um, but anyway, this is, I mean, it's,

1343
00:49:16,410 --> 00:49:18,550
it's excellent news.

1344
00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:22,790
And because so many companies are flooding in

1345
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:26,350
to make this change right now, that tells

1346
00:49:26,350 --> 00:49:28,210
me that you're, you're not putting this genie

1347
00:49:28,210 --> 00:49:28,930
back in the bottle.

1348
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:30,710
No, no.

1349
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:33,330
This is, it's just going to, this is

1350
00:49:33,330 --> 00:49:35,030
just kind of the final word on this.

1351
00:49:35,310 --> 00:49:37,330
Now, Apple said that they're going to appeal,

1352
00:49:37,550 --> 00:49:39,570
but I don't even know really what they

1353
00:49:39,570 --> 00:49:43,050
would be appealing because this is not a

1354
00:49:43,050 --> 00:49:43,590
new ruling.

1355
00:49:43,770 --> 00:49:45,730
This is just, this is from the old

1356
00:49:45,730 --> 00:49:46,130
ruling.

1357
00:49:46,690 --> 00:49:47,170
Yeah.

1358
00:49:47,690 --> 00:49:51,910
This is an enforcement measure on them, not

1359
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:54,730
following the injunction from the previous ruling.

1360
00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:56,150
So I don't even know what they're appealing

1361
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:56,710
really.

1362
00:49:58,070 --> 00:50:01,030
Uh, evidently they filed some sort of, I

1363
00:50:01,030 --> 00:50:03,270
don't know, but I just don't see that

1364
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:04,870
this is going to fail.

1365
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:06,810
I think this is just the way things

1366
00:50:06,810 --> 00:50:07,370
are going to be.

1367
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:08,470
And Apple's just going to have to get

1368
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:08,970
over it.

1369
00:50:09,070 --> 00:50:09,370
Yeah.

1370
00:50:09,650 --> 00:50:11,330
Um, and that's just great.

1371
00:50:11,350 --> 00:50:13,690
It's great for podcast apps and for podcasters

1372
00:50:13,690 --> 00:50:18,230
because now, you know, podcast apps can really

1373
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:24,450
help direct funding to podcasters in a way

1374
00:50:24,450 --> 00:50:27,150
that's, that's straightforward and easy.

1375
00:50:27,170 --> 00:50:29,550
Just stick a freaking link in your, in

1376
00:50:29,550 --> 00:50:33,950
your RSS feed and you're done, you know,

1377
00:50:33,950 --> 00:50:35,150
I'm going to make a bet with you.

1378
00:50:35,410 --> 00:50:37,010
One whole dollar.

1379
00:50:38,070 --> 00:50:38,230
Okay.

1380
00:50:38,490 --> 00:50:38,590
Ready?

1381
00:50:38,590 --> 00:50:38,930
You ready?

1382
00:50:39,570 --> 00:50:39,950
Got it.

1383
00:50:39,970 --> 00:50:40,730
Give me, give me, go.

1384
00:50:41,050 --> 00:50:43,010
Marco will not put the funding tag in

1385
00:50:43,010 --> 00:50:43,650
overcast.

1386
00:50:43,850 --> 00:50:46,370
No matter what I bet you a dollar.

1387
00:50:46,850 --> 00:50:47,750
Take that bet, brother.

1388
00:50:47,890 --> 00:50:48,910
Take that bet from me.

1389
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:49,610
Come on.

1390
00:50:49,610 --> 00:50:51,130
I'll give you 10 to one, 10 to

1391
00:50:51,130 --> 00:50:51,770
one odds.

1392
00:50:52,310 --> 00:50:53,710
No, I'm not taking it.

1393
00:50:54,970 --> 00:50:57,890
Purely for ideological reasons that he thinks we

1394
00:50:57,890 --> 00:50:58,330
suck.

1395
00:50:59,170 --> 00:50:59,970
Probably so.

1396
00:51:00,130 --> 00:51:00,230
Yep.

1397
00:51:00,510 --> 00:51:00,890
Yep.

1398
00:51:01,190 --> 00:51:01,590
Yep.

1399
00:51:01,790 --> 00:51:03,730
I I'm not taking that bet because I

1400
00:51:03,730 --> 00:51:04,530
will lose my dollar.

1401
00:51:07,870 --> 00:51:09,990
I love that pocket cash just went ahead

1402
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:10,570
and did it.

1403
00:51:11,530 --> 00:51:12,510
Oh, that's huge.

1404
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:12,750
Yeah.

1405
00:51:12,750 --> 00:51:13,790
They've got big market share.

1406
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:15,510
They've got, you know, what I would love

1407
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:15,970
to see.

1408
00:51:16,090 --> 00:51:18,310
I would love to see Ted and Apple

1409
00:51:18,310 --> 00:51:18,730
do it.

1410
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:19,270
Yes.

1411
00:51:19,950 --> 00:51:20,550
Thank you.

1412
00:51:20,590 --> 00:51:21,610
That would be hilarious.

1413
00:51:21,890 --> 00:51:22,730
It'd be awesome.

1414
00:51:22,970 --> 00:51:24,830
It would be awesome if they did that.

1415
00:51:24,830 --> 00:51:26,950
Ted, please do this so I can put

1416
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:29,010
that on the apps on the podcast.

1417
00:51:30,090 --> 00:51:31,930
Does Ted have that kind of juice?

1418
00:51:32,170 --> 00:51:33,590
Oh, he's full of juice.

1419
00:51:37,110 --> 00:51:38,530
He's got so much juice.

1420
00:51:39,350 --> 00:51:40,590
Please do that Ted.

1421
00:51:40,670 --> 00:51:42,650
So that I can put on podcast apps

1422
00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:45,530
.com that Apple podcast supports the funding tag.

1423
00:51:45,810 --> 00:51:47,470
I want that so much.

1424
00:51:50,510 --> 00:51:51,930
Oh, goodness gracious.

1425
00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:53,190
Anyway, good, good.

1426
00:51:53,330 --> 00:51:55,530
This, this is a, this is a banner

1427
00:51:55,530 --> 00:51:55,970
day.

1428
00:51:56,270 --> 00:51:56,970
A red letter day.

1429
00:51:56,990 --> 00:51:58,130
It is a red letter day.

1430
00:51:58,190 --> 00:51:59,810
I'm super excited about it.

1431
00:52:00,230 --> 00:52:01,830
What is the origin of that term?

1432
00:52:01,890 --> 00:52:02,630
Red letter day?

1433
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:03,450
What does that even mean?

1434
00:52:03,550 --> 00:52:06,350
Oh, let's let's ask a seer in X

1435
00:52:06,350 --> 00:52:06,830
and G.

1436
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:11,170
Red letter day origin.

1437
00:52:12,170 --> 00:52:13,250
Okay, here we go.

1438
00:52:13,950 --> 00:52:15,050
Red letter day.

1439
00:52:15,610 --> 00:52:17,650
The phrase red letter day originated from the

1440
00:52:17,650 --> 00:52:20,050
practice of marking important dates, such as church

1441
00:52:20,050 --> 00:52:22,450
festivals and holy days in red on the

1442
00:52:22,450 --> 00:52:23,090
calendars.

1443
00:52:23,890 --> 00:52:24,730
There you go.

1444
00:52:25,110 --> 00:52:25,730
There it is.

1445
00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:28,430
Cool.

1446
00:52:29,530 --> 00:52:30,970
Well, that's all I had, Dave.

1447
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:34,750
Oh, I'm trying to find this.

1448
00:52:36,490 --> 00:52:38,230
I'm trying to find this video.

1449
00:52:41,050 --> 00:52:42,310
Bitcoin's up nicely too.

1450
00:52:42,570 --> 00:52:44,870
97, 5, 6, 7.

1451
00:52:45,390 --> 00:52:45,570
Oh, yeah.

1452
00:52:45,650 --> 00:52:46,190
I've noticed that.

1453
00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:47,490
I don't know what that's about either.

1454
00:52:48,010 --> 00:52:49,930
No, it's the devaluation of the dollar.

1455
00:52:51,050 --> 00:52:51,670
Let's see.

1456
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:52,570
What's the dollar at?

1457
00:52:52,650 --> 00:52:55,050
The dollar has been, it's down like 8

1458
00:52:55,050 --> 00:52:55,930
% this year.

1459
00:52:56,510 --> 00:52:56,870
Let me see.

1460
00:52:56,970 --> 00:52:59,810
I'm posting a link to a video I

1461
00:52:59,810 --> 00:53:01,730
watched the other day in the boardroom.

1462
00:53:02,750 --> 00:53:05,570
It's, it's a guy that, this is random,

1463
00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:12,990
but it's a guy who is a language

1464
00:53:12,990 --> 00:53:14,850
expert and he gives the history of the

1465
00:53:14,850 --> 00:53:15,610
English language.

1466
00:53:17,470 --> 00:53:20,130
And I mean, a lot, I'm sure a

1467
00:53:20,130 --> 00:53:21,550
lot of people kind of know that, you

1468
00:53:21,550 --> 00:53:24,390
know, English came from the Germanic Anglo-Saxons,

1469
00:53:24,910 --> 00:53:28,470
sort of a mishmash of, of mostly that

1470
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:29,550
and other sources.

1471
00:53:30,090 --> 00:53:32,890
But he tracks this, he tracks the origin,

1472
00:53:33,850 --> 00:53:35,730
he tracks the English language all the way

1473
00:53:35,730 --> 00:53:40,750
back to like Sanskrit and Hittite in these,

1474
00:53:40,850 --> 00:53:45,650
these in a, an unknown, an ancestor language

1475
00:53:45,650 --> 00:53:47,150
called Indo-European.

1476
00:53:47,590 --> 00:53:49,290
It is fascinating.

1477
00:53:50,410 --> 00:53:54,350
And he taught, he talks about how you

1478
00:53:54,350 --> 00:53:56,630
can, if you went back and listened to

1479
00:53:56,630 --> 00:54:01,210
someone speak Hittite, you could, you could understand

1480
00:54:01,210 --> 00:54:05,670
entire sentences that sound just like English.

1481
00:54:06,730 --> 00:54:07,610
It's crazy.

1482
00:54:09,650 --> 00:54:09,750
Yeah.

1483
00:54:10,590 --> 00:54:12,530
I just posted that and it's, it's a

1484
00:54:12,530 --> 00:54:13,230
fascinating video.

1485
00:54:13,290 --> 00:54:14,510
He just reminded me of it when you

1486
00:54:14,510 --> 00:54:15,390
were talking about red letter.

1487
00:54:15,870 --> 00:54:18,910
You know, I did a deconstruction yesterday on

1488
00:54:18,910 --> 00:54:20,610
no agenda, which I will not repeat is

1489
00:54:20,610 --> 00:54:23,550
too long about stable coin.

1490
00:54:24,530 --> 00:54:27,330
Do you know that stable coin Tether specifically

1491
00:54:27,330 --> 00:54:30,070
has 400 million users?

1492
00:54:31,210 --> 00:54:33,810
What are these users doing with it?

1493
00:54:33,890 --> 00:54:34,590
I don't understand.

1494
00:54:35,090 --> 00:54:39,450
It is emerging countries, countries that have crap

1495
00:54:39,450 --> 00:54:44,070
currency, Turkey, South America, they are using it

1496
00:54:44,070 --> 00:54:47,570
between each other, just using dollar denominations to

1497
00:54:47,570 --> 00:54:48,290
pay each other.

1498
00:54:51,150 --> 00:54:54,330
Because their own money sucks so bad.

1499
00:54:55,950 --> 00:54:57,650
And they're just, and it's, you know, and

1500
00:54:57,650 --> 00:55:00,610
the, the stable coin is backed by us

1501
00:55:00,610 --> 00:55:01,090
treasury.

1502
00:55:01,350 --> 00:55:03,050
So it's literally stable.

1503
00:55:04,730 --> 00:55:08,270
And I, 400 million users, and this is

1504
00:55:08,270 --> 00:55:09,890
like, you know, to buy groceries.

1505
00:55:11,450 --> 00:55:15,810
I'm telling you, and no KYC.

1506
00:55:16,930 --> 00:55:17,550
Really?

1507
00:55:17,830 --> 00:55:18,270
Yes.

1508
00:55:18,850 --> 00:55:22,150
Well, so part of the stable coin bill

1509
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:25,350
that's coming, that is moving through Congress right

1510
00:55:25,350 --> 00:55:28,070
now, there's no KYC.

1511
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:29,870
There's no, there's another one.

1512
00:55:30,050 --> 00:55:32,910
There's C I Y or something.

1513
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:36,210
There's some other extra KYC that you have

1514
00:55:36,210 --> 00:55:37,830
to do with the bank account.

1515
00:55:39,210 --> 00:55:43,070
Those are quite now, mind you, it may

1516
00:55:43,070 --> 00:55:46,450
be that that is not necessarily available in

1517
00:55:46,450 --> 00:55:48,110
the United States that way.

1518
00:55:48,730 --> 00:55:51,090
Because they're trying to separate the Euro dollar

1519
00:55:51,090 --> 00:55:52,190
from the dollar dollar.

1520
00:55:52,670 --> 00:55:54,830
So Euro dollar being all the dollars that

1521
00:55:54,830 --> 00:55:57,270
aren't in America, like they're like, Hey, do

1522
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:58,010
whatever you want.

1523
00:55:58,210 --> 00:56:00,670
You know, just go for it, whatever you

1524
00:56:00,670 --> 00:56:01,150
want to do.

1525
00:56:02,450 --> 00:56:05,250
Of course it's completely trackable, obviously.

1526
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:09,490
But I am going to predict that that

1527
00:56:09,490 --> 00:56:11,770
is, you know, stable coin already works on

1528
00:56:11,770 --> 00:56:12,510
the lightning network.

1529
00:56:12,650 --> 00:56:14,210
I know people are rolling their eyes.

1530
00:56:14,330 --> 00:56:18,230
I know Stripe integrate it.

1531
00:56:18,310 --> 00:56:20,190
They use it now support for stable coin.

1532
00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:20,490
Yep.

1533
00:56:20,810 --> 00:56:22,270
Like in, you can do use it for

1534
00:56:22,270 --> 00:56:22,710
purchases.

1535
00:56:23,150 --> 00:56:23,450
Yes.

1536
00:56:24,510 --> 00:56:24,970
Yes.

1537
00:56:25,070 --> 00:56:28,230
It's, I mean, it's going to be the

1538
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:28,610
future.

1539
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:36,230
You know, there's a good, there's a guy

1540
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:39,050
that I watch on YouTube sometimes who explains

1541
00:56:39,050 --> 00:56:40,130
a lot of stuff really well.

1542
00:56:40,210 --> 00:56:40,890
You know, you're a dollar.

1543
00:56:41,150 --> 00:56:42,490
You sent me links to him.

1544
00:56:42,570 --> 00:56:42,690
Yeah.

1545
00:56:43,470 --> 00:56:45,990
Now, now sometimes he can be kind of

1546
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:47,050
insufferable at times.

1547
00:56:47,050 --> 00:56:48,710
You got to get, you got to get

1548
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:50,910
past a lot of the, Oh my God,

1549
00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:51,630
we're all going to die.

1550
00:56:51,850 --> 00:56:53,390
Like his face just to get to get

1551
00:56:53,390 --> 00:56:54,210
past his face.

1552
00:56:55,810 --> 00:56:57,790
I don't mean, I'm not intending to be

1553
00:56:57,790 --> 00:57:00,050
mean, but he's like, okay, it looks like

1554
00:57:00,050 --> 00:57:01,310
a weasel weasel.

1555
00:57:01,350 --> 00:57:02,470
He's got a little weasel face.

1556
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:08,110
Oh, every video is, Oh my God, we're

1557
00:57:08,110 --> 00:57:08,690
all going to die.

1558
00:57:09,050 --> 00:57:11,850
But if you get past that to some

1559
00:57:11,850 --> 00:57:16,230
of the like underlying economic mechanics, he's phenomenal.

1560
00:57:16,570 --> 00:57:17,270
It's phenomenal.

1561
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:21,190
And he debated Lynn Alden a couple of

1562
00:57:21,190 --> 00:57:22,550
times about some things.

1563
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:25,330
But you know, one of the things that

1564
00:57:25,330 --> 00:57:26,930
he, one of his main, can I ask

1565
00:57:26,930 --> 00:57:28,310
you a question before you move on?

1566
00:57:28,530 --> 00:57:29,190
Yeah, sure.

1567
00:57:29,250 --> 00:57:30,170
About Lynn Alden.

1568
00:57:30,490 --> 00:57:31,850
Maybe it's just me.

1569
00:57:32,670 --> 00:57:35,730
Is Lynn Alden trans?

1570
00:57:36,690 --> 00:57:37,050
Yes.

1571
00:57:37,250 --> 00:57:37,570
Okay.

1572
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:38,470
All right.

1573
00:57:38,670 --> 00:57:38,810
Yeah.

1574
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:39,610
I always wondered.

1575
00:57:40,310 --> 00:57:40,750
Yeah.

1576
00:57:41,010 --> 00:57:42,990
Uh, there was a whole thread about it

1577
00:57:42,990 --> 00:57:44,150
on Twitter.

1578
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:44,650
Yeah.

1579
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:44,870
Yeah.

1580
00:57:45,630 --> 00:57:49,790
Um, yeah, no, that one's like, I know,

1581
00:57:52,850 --> 00:57:54,690
but it never bothered me, you know, like,

1582
00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:56,890
but it's just this lingering question.

1583
00:57:57,250 --> 00:57:58,850
I was, I should ask someone about that.

1584
00:57:58,910 --> 00:58:00,470
And finally I got the chance to ask.

1585
00:58:00,550 --> 00:58:00,930
Thank you.

1586
00:58:01,050 --> 00:58:01,330
All right.

1587
00:58:01,450 --> 00:58:05,470
So, um, so one of the things, one

1588
00:58:05,470 --> 00:58:08,070
of his main sort of like pillars is,

1589
00:58:08,070 --> 00:58:13,690
um, of, of the Euro dollar system is

1590
00:58:13,690 --> 00:58:19,570
that when you, uh, that other countries, see,

1591
00:58:19,570 --> 00:58:21,110
seeing as how the U S dollar is

1592
00:58:21,110 --> 00:58:23,810
the reserve currency of the, as the world's

1593
00:58:23,810 --> 00:58:27,170
reserve currency, other countries are constantly having a

1594
00:58:27,170 --> 00:58:29,010
problem of running out of dollars.

1595
00:58:29,490 --> 00:58:29,730
Exactly.

1596
00:58:29,790 --> 00:58:31,890
This is exactly what I talked about yesterday.

1597
00:58:32,430 --> 00:58:34,230
So they need, they need dollars.

1598
00:58:35,330 --> 00:58:37,930
And, um, and so there's a whole dollar

1599
00:58:37,930 --> 00:58:41,810
market, which was always set by LIBOR, the

1600
00:58:41,810 --> 00:58:45,410
London interbank offered rate LIBOR died.

1601
00:58:45,830 --> 00:58:46,950
It failed.

1602
00:58:47,110 --> 00:58:47,370
Yes.

1603
00:58:47,550 --> 00:58:50,250
And now it's SOFR, S O F R.

1604
00:58:50,350 --> 00:58:52,430
And that's controlled by the New York fed.

1605
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:56,030
And the whole idea of the stable coin

1606
00:58:56,030 --> 00:58:59,390
bill is we're going to keep the dollars

1607
00:58:59,390 --> 00:59:02,890
dominance by flooding the world with stable coin

1608
00:59:02,890 --> 00:59:05,710
tether specifically, but I think you'll have there'll

1609
00:59:05,710 --> 00:59:08,010
be all kinds of stable coins, you know,

1610
00:59:08,050 --> 00:59:12,590
JP Morgan coin, whatever, and then weakening the

1611
00:59:12,590 --> 00:59:15,370
U S dollar itself that we use internally.

1612
00:59:15,570 --> 00:59:18,090
So that our exports become cheaper.

1613
00:59:19,650 --> 00:59:22,330
And see, and by flooding, what you really

1614
00:59:22,330 --> 00:59:25,970
mean is just having an open market for

1615
00:59:25,970 --> 00:59:29,590
dollars that is not controlled by the fed.

1616
00:59:29,730 --> 00:59:30,090
Yes.

1617
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:30,870
Well, it's not.

1618
00:59:32,170 --> 00:59:32,790
It's not.

1619
00:59:33,010 --> 00:59:34,310
Well, it will be controlled.

1620
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:36,090
Now it will be controlled by the fed,

1621
00:59:36,170 --> 00:59:38,450
but the fed can let it do whatever

1622
00:59:38,450 --> 00:59:39,010
it wants.

1623
00:59:39,110 --> 00:59:41,590
It'll control our dollar the way it wants,

1624
00:59:42,490 --> 00:59:44,110
but the fed may think they can control

1625
00:59:44,110 --> 00:59:45,870
this, but I can tell you already they

1626
00:59:45,870 --> 00:59:46,270
can't.

1627
00:59:46,270 --> 00:59:48,790
This is where it goes beyond my knowledge.

1628
00:59:48,930 --> 00:59:49,610
I have no idea.

1629
00:59:50,350 --> 00:59:54,550
Well, I mean, so global banks trade U

1630
00:59:54,550 --> 00:59:58,110
S treasuries, that's their main source of currency

1631
00:59:58,750 --> 00:59:59,770
bank to bank.

1632
00:59:59,770 --> 01:00:02,550
If you're a, if you're HSBC and you're

1633
01:00:02,550 --> 01:00:04,670
trying to do a deal with a bank

1634
01:00:04,670 --> 01:00:09,750
in Singapore, you're doing those deals based on

1635
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:10,730
U S treasury bonds.

1636
01:00:10,850 --> 01:00:11,190
Yes.

1637
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:11,830
Yes.

1638
01:00:11,930 --> 01:00:14,330
And so if there isn't, there isn't.

1639
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:17,690
So, and, and if you're a JP Morgan

1640
01:00:17,690 --> 01:00:20,330
and you have a subsidy, if you have

1641
01:00:20,330 --> 01:00:24,410
a subsidiary of yourself in Germany, you can

1642
01:00:24,410 --> 01:00:26,950
create U S dollars at will.

1643
01:00:27,270 --> 01:00:28,330
There's no governor on that.

1644
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:29,870
You can do it as much as you

1645
01:00:29,870 --> 01:00:30,110
want.

1646
01:00:30,190 --> 01:00:30,550
That's right.

1647
01:00:30,590 --> 01:00:32,970
And so all those, what they call money,

1648
01:00:32,970 --> 01:00:40,770
money lenders, creators, makers, there's certain, there's certain

1649
01:00:40,770 --> 01:00:44,810
primary dealers, whatever primary dealers, primary dealers, those

1650
01:00:44,810 --> 01:00:47,930
primary dealer banks can just create as many

1651
01:00:47,930 --> 01:00:49,030
U S dollars as they want.

1652
01:00:49,230 --> 01:00:50,630
And that's when they're backing them with U

1653
01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:51,250
S treasuries.

1654
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:56,350
And that's what Tether, their backer is Cantor

1655
01:00:56,350 --> 01:00:57,030
Fitzgerald.

1656
01:00:57,630 --> 01:00:59,190
They're the primary dealer.

1657
01:00:59,330 --> 01:01:01,490
So they can create all these stable coins.

1658
01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:05,830
Cantor Fitzgerald, Howard Lutnick, who is currently our

1659
01:01:05,830 --> 01:01:07,110
secretary of commerce.

1660
01:01:07,110 --> 01:01:07,930
Hello.

1661
01:01:09,310 --> 01:01:13,350
Now no agenda millennial is saying in the,

1662
01:01:13,350 --> 01:01:18,490
in the boardroom that it was planned LIBOR

1663
01:01:18,490 --> 01:01:19,470
to SOFR.

1664
01:01:19,710 --> 01:01:23,950
Yes, it was planned and LIBOR ended technically

1665
01:01:23,950 --> 01:01:25,270
was supposed to end 2021.

1666
01:01:25,890 --> 01:01:28,310
But you know, when the last contract ended,

1667
01:01:28,550 --> 01:01:31,730
the very last contract that, that finished off

1668
01:01:31,730 --> 01:01:36,470
LIBOR ended on March 31st, 2025, which gives

1669
01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:38,910
a whole new meaning to this.

1670
01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:42,690
My fellow Americans, this is liberation day.

1671
01:01:43,250 --> 01:01:45,050
So we, we were all told it was

1672
01:01:45,050 --> 01:01:47,030
about tariffs, but I think it had more

1673
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:48,610
to do with SOFR than anything.

1674
01:01:50,030 --> 01:01:50,990
Oh, you may be right.

1675
01:01:51,050 --> 01:01:54,310
Well, the, you know, Paul, is it Paul

1676
01:01:54,310 --> 01:01:58,790
Volcker, one of the fed guys called, um,

1677
01:01:59,210 --> 01:02:03,650
called the U the Euro dollar, uh, like

1678
01:02:03,650 --> 01:02:05,130
poison or something system.

1679
01:02:05,290 --> 01:02:06,810
Now they called it the, it was the

1680
01:02:06,810 --> 01:02:08,670
hole in the side, in the hole of

1681
01:02:08,670 --> 01:02:09,950
the boat of the U S economy.

1682
01:02:10,190 --> 01:02:10,670
Sure.

1683
01:02:11,070 --> 01:02:13,410
Especially because China has all those dollars.

1684
01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:14,470
Yeah.

1685
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:17,330
And you, you can, you think of, of

1686
01:02:17,330 --> 01:02:20,490
the U S economy as this boat and

1687
01:02:20,490 --> 01:02:22,930
the fed is increasing and decreasing the money

1688
01:02:22,930 --> 01:02:26,490
supply, but then you ignore this giant hole

1689
01:02:26,490 --> 01:02:28,650
in the hole, which the Euro dollars just

1690
01:02:28,650 --> 01:02:30,250
flow in and out of at will.

1691
01:02:30,510 --> 01:02:32,870
So you can have trillions of dollars of,

1692
01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:37,090
of trade, you know, of treasuries and now

1693
01:02:37,090 --> 01:02:39,150
stable coins just coming in and out of

1694
01:02:39,150 --> 01:02:39,950
that system.

1695
01:02:40,190 --> 01:02:42,770
And it's not as completely unaccounted for.

1696
01:02:43,050 --> 01:02:44,570
Now the fed can't control it.

1697
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:45,550
They can't stop it.

1698
01:02:45,630 --> 01:02:47,110
They can't regulate it.

1699
01:02:47,170 --> 01:02:49,230
It's completely beyond their control.

1700
01:02:49,530 --> 01:02:51,190
But if it's a stable coin, they can

1701
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:52,030
monitor it.

1702
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,540
If, if it's a stable coin and they're

1703
01:02:57,540 --> 01:03:01,560
buying, if, if somebody is buying a stable,

1704
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,500
if tether is buying a stable coin to

1705
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:06,320
increase supply because they have a customer and

1706
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,800
they're doing so by selling a treasury, I

1707
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,100
don't know how you track that.

1708
01:03:13,700 --> 01:03:16,400
Well, uh, I do know one other thing

1709
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,500
that, um, these stable coins will also also

1710
01:03:20,500 --> 01:03:25,100
be backed by Bitcoin and Cantor Fitzgerald, again,

1711
01:03:25,220 --> 01:03:27,420
huge holder of Bitcoin.

1712
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:36,100
Um, Cantor Fitzgerald were basically wiped out because

1713
01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:37,880
they were in one of the twin towers

1714
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:38,700
on nine 11.

1715
01:03:39,700 --> 01:03:42,340
Interestingly, Howard didn't go to work that day.

1716
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,380
Um, that is interesting.

1717
01:03:46,380 --> 01:03:46,780
Yeah.

1718
01:03:47,380 --> 01:03:50,640
So, uh, and he holds hundreds of millions

1719
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,540
of dollars in Bitcoin personally.

1720
01:03:54,260 --> 01:03:58,960
So I guess what I'm saying is if

1721
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,740
we want the value for value economy to

1722
01:04:01,740 --> 01:04:06,000
work, it's worth observing stable coin.

1723
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,780
If we're going to be jihadist and maximalist

1724
01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:11,040
about it, that's fine.

1725
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,860
But I'm just saying it's worth the, the

1726
01:04:13,860 --> 01:04:15,460
infrastructure doesn't have to change.

1727
01:04:15,460 --> 01:04:17,740
In fact, the infrastructure becomes easier, but the

1728
01:04:17,740 --> 01:04:21,340
lightning network, that was the whole tap root,

1729
01:04:21,540 --> 01:04:24,740
uh, whatever the, whatever that extra widget was

1730
01:04:24,740 --> 01:04:25,520
that was added.

1731
01:04:26,060 --> 01:04:26,500
Yeah.

1732
01:04:26,500 --> 01:04:27,820
Does that even, does that work?

1733
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,080
Yeah, it works.

1734
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:29,520
It does.

1735
01:04:29,620 --> 01:04:30,060
It works.

1736
01:04:30,140 --> 01:04:30,260
Yeah.

1737
01:04:30,340 --> 01:04:32,260
You can, you can transfer stable coin over

1738
01:04:32,260 --> 01:04:32,600
lightning.

1739
01:04:33,860 --> 01:04:37,140
Um, it's going to become very easy to

1740
01:04:37,140 --> 01:04:43,600
use stable coin in programmatic ways that will

1741
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,660
be understandable due to hundreds of millions, if

1742
01:04:47,660 --> 01:04:50,300
not billions of dollars of marketing to help

1743
01:04:50,300 --> 01:04:51,480
people understand it.

1744
01:04:52,420 --> 01:04:55,940
So I'm just saying it's a new frontier,

1745
01:04:56,060 --> 01:04:56,240
man.

1746
01:04:56,340 --> 01:04:59,640
I'm just saying, I don't think anybody knows

1747
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:03,540
what, uh, you know, who knows if you

1748
01:05:03,540 --> 01:05:07,400
were to take this strike kid, Jack Mallers,

1749
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,220
he knows, he knows what's going on.

1750
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,560
So, you know, he's, he's using stable coin,

1751
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,920
but he's also has this 21, forget the

1752
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:18,620
name of the company.

1753
01:05:18,620 --> 01:05:22,120
He's a company that, uh, will give people

1754
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,200
shares and it'll be Bitcoin.

1755
01:05:24,340 --> 01:05:27,060
The, the, the measurement mainly will be how

1756
01:05:27,060 --> 01:05:28,340
much Bitcoin per share.

1757
01:05:29,060 --> 01:05:31,660
So he knows, he knows that there, what's

1758
01:05:31,660 --> 01:05:32,880
going on behind the scenes.

1759
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,040
His parents are in there.

1760
01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:34,920
They're the commodities.

1761
01:05:35,860 --> 01:05:37,740
I think they pretty much are the, the

1762
01:05:37,740 --> 01:05:42,140
Chicago, uh, uh, commodities exchange where they were.

1763
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,160
He knows what's going on.

1764
01:05:44,220 --> 01:05:45,480
I would follow whatever he's doing.

1765
01:05:45,540 --> 01:05:46,160
I would follow.

1766
01:05:46,820 --> 01:05:49,500
Strike has been using stable coins since the

1767
01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:49,800
beginning.

1768
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,340
As far as I, as far as I

1769
01:05:51,340 --> 01:05:51,640
understand.

1770
01:05:51,660 --> 01:05:52,380
For their transfers.

1771
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:52,980
Absolutely.

1772
01:05:53,780 --> 01:05:54,040
Yeah.

1773
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:54,640
Yeah.

1774
01:05:55,460 --> 01:05:58,600
So it really is the perfect solution for,

1775
01:05:58,820 --> 01:06:01,760
for its use case in that, you know,

1776
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,840
when you're talking about, you know, dollar availability,

1777
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:06,260
but I'm just going to say it straight

1778
01:06:06,260 --> 01:06:06,620
up.

1779
01:06:06,940 --> 01:06:10,920
The opportunity for value for value might be

1780
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:11,980
in stable coin.

1781
01:06:12,220 --> 01:06:14,620
Please keep your mind open to it.

1782
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:16,900
That's what I'm saying.

1783
01:06:17,380 --> 01:06:18,600
If we're all going to say, no, it

1784
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,100
has to be Bitcoin and nothing else.

1785
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:20,440
Okay.

1786
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,280
Then we'll, then we'll remain that.

1787
01:06:23,380 --> 01:06:26,060
But for me, it's always been about the

1788
01:06:26,060 --> 01:06:28,060
value being able to be returned.

1789
01:06:28,180 --> 01:06:30,980
Simply for me, it was never, it has

1790
01:06:30,980 --> 01:06:33,760
to be completely, you know, anonymous and it

1791
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,680
has to be Monero and all this stuff.

1792
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,220
I'm just not like that.

1793
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,840
I just, I, you know, I take PayPal

1794
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:39,800
as my main income.

1795
01:06:39,940 --> 01:06:41,680
My number one income is PayPal.

1796
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,860
Um, yeah, Eric PP, we do have a

1797
01:06:46,860 --> 01:06:49,380
new podcast location tag and it is cool.

1798
01:06:53,550 --> 01:06:56,510
The, uh, where's Eric PP been?

1799
01:06:56,730 --> 01:06:58,070
Where have you been, man?

1800
01:06:58,510 --> 01:07:00,370
Everybody knows about the location tag.

1801
01:07:00,410 --> 01:07:01,730
We talked about it on the last board

1802
01:07:01,730 --> 01:07:02,110
meeting.

1803
01:07:02,210 --> 01:07:02,750
Where you been?

1804
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:04,590
The, uh, yes.

1805
01:07:04,690 --> 01:07:06,610
So that is formal now.

1806
01:07:06,610 --> 01:07:11,330
I formalized those changes, uh, I think Monday

1807
01:07:11,330 --> 01:07:12,030
or Tuesday.

1808
01:07:12,770 --> 01:07:13,790
I can't remember.

1809
01:07:13,790 --> 01:07:17,470
So I formalized those, uh, and, uh, James,

1810
01:07:17,730 --> 01:07:20,350
uh, I did, I did some changes in

1811
01:07:20,350 --> 01:07:23,570
the James, uh, clean things up and, uh,

1812
01:07:23,570 --> 01:07:25,470
we pushed it into the namespace.

1813
01:07:25,650 --> 01:07:27,290
So that is good to go.

1814
01:07:28,990 --> 01:07:33,270
And, um, I started, uh, working on putting,

1815
01:07:33,490 --> 01:07:35,730
now that, now that we have, uh, in

1816
01:07:35,730 --> 01:07:37,750
Godcaster, now that we have lat, latitude, longitude

1817
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:41,030
started, um, I started a, uh, a new

1818
01:07:41,030 --> 01:07:44,310
branch to put that in the, that stuff

1819
01:07:44,310 --> 01:07:46,610
into Godcaster players.

1820
01:07:46,890 --> 01:07:47,070
Yeah.

1821
01:07:47,130 --> 01:07:48,530
We're, we're using it heavily.

1822
01:07:48,890 --> 01:07:50,130
Did you see the, did you see the

1823
01:07:50,130 --> 01:07:50,430
map?

1824
01:07:51,610 --> 01:07:52,010
Yes.

1825
01:07:52,170 --> 01:07:52,450
Yes.

1826
01:07:52,570 --> 01:07:52,730
I did.

1827
01:07:54,310 --> 01:07:55,430
It's really nice.

1828
01:07:56,050 --> 01:07:56,930
It's really nice.

1829
01:07:57,010 --> 01:07:59,470
And it's, it's this tag, this tag lets

1830
01:07:59,470 --> 01:08:00,730
you do that kind of stuff.

1831
01:08:00,730 --> 01:08:01,350
It's amazing.

1832
01:08:01,450 --> 01:08:03,510
We built all this stuff and then all

1833
01:08:03,510 --> 01:08:04,930
of a sudden we got an opportunity to

1834
01:08:04,930 --> 01:08:05,350
use it.

1835
01:08:05,390 --> 01:08:06,310
We've never had that.

1836
01:08:06,370 --> 01:08:09,730
It's like, Oh, yes, it is like, Hey,

1837
01:08:09,870 --> 01:08:11,410
if only we had a, Oh, wait a

1838
01:08:11,410 --> 01:08:11,510
minute.

1839
01:08:11,530 --> 01:08:12,770
We built that solution.

1840
01:08:13,290 --> 01:08:13,490
Yeah.

1841
01:08:13,990 --> 01:08:16,069
It has been really fun to be able

1842
01:08:16,069 --> 01:08:18,810
to actually use this stuff other than just

1843
01:08:18,810 --> 01:08:21,930
like blindly sticking it into a parser.

1844
01:08:22,189 --> 01:08:22,590
Yes.

1845
01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:23,270
Yes.

1846
01:08:24,069 --> 01:08:25,890
I'll, I'll, I'll, I'm going to send a

1847
01:08:25,890 --> 01:08:26,550
picture.

1848
01:08:27,450 --> 01:08:29,130
I'm going to give this picture to the,

1849
01:08:29,170 --> 01:08:30,470
uh, to the boardroom.

1850
01:08:30,529 --> 01:08:31,050
They'll love it.

1851
01:08:31,170 --> 01:08:31,750
Hold on a second.

1852
01:08:31,750 --> 01:08:32,370
Where am I?

1853
01:08:33,109 --> 01:08:33,850
Oh, is this the map?

1854
01:08:34,229 --> 01:08:34,430
Yeah.

1855
01:08:34,529 --> 01:08:34,710
Yeah.

1856
01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:36,790
Hey, we can share screenshots.

1857
01:08:37,490 --> 01:08:38,569
Let me see.

1858
01:08:38,750 --> 01:08:39,029
Hold on.

1859
01:08:39,130 --> 01:08:42,649
This, this, this takes a lot to do

1860
01:08:42,649 --> 01:08:43,790
a screenshot these days.

1861
01:08:43,950 --> 01:08:44,210
Hold on.

1862
01:08:45,770 --> 01:08:46,810
I'll show the sec.

1863
01:08:46,850 --> 01:08:47,930
I got two screenshots.

1864
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:50,090
I'll show, I'll share both of them.

1865
01:08:50,170 --> 01:08:50,790
Here we go.

1866
01:08:51,670 --> 01:08:52,590
Uh, boom.

1867
01:08:53,689 --> 01:08:57,149
There's one and boom.

1868
01:08:57,630 --> 01:08:58,250
There's two.

1869
01:08:59,410 --> 01:08:59,910
Okay.

1870
01:09:00,370 --> 01:09:01,210
There you go.

1871
01:09:02,189 --> 01:09:05,270
So now it's back to everybody's favorite, uh,

1872
01:09:06,109 --> 01:09:08,550
aspect to everybody's favorite tag, the images tag.

1873
01:09:10,529 --> 01:09:11,529
Are we on that?

1874
01:09:11,609 --> 01:09:12,130
What happened?

1875
01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:13,330
How do we get back to that?

1876
01:09:13,450 --> 01:09:15,590
Does that, uh, problem the images?

1877
01:09:15,750 --> 01:09:17,670
Well, we, I put it off until after

1878
01:09:17,670 --> 01:09:20,850
we finalized the, uh, the, the location tag

1879
01:09:20,850 --> 01:09:21,270
changes.

1880
01:09:21,310 --> 01:09:22,770
So now we're back to that.

1881
01:09:24,069 --> 01:09:28,290
And, uh, you know, I'm just, I'm going

1882
01:09:28,290 --> 01:09:30,149
to, my plan for this is to work

1883
01:09:30,149 --> 01:09:33,670
with Nathan, uh, middle name undefined.

1884
01:09:34,970 --> 01:09:37,710
I'm going to work with, uh, Nathan undefined.

1885
01:09:37,930 --> 01:09:38,250
Yeah.

1886
01:09:38,670 --> 01:09:40,790
I'm going to work with undefined Nathan to

1887
01:09:40,790 --> 01:09:45,910
get, um, to get some, some stuff that

1888
01:09:45,910 --> 01:09:49,510
we can link to, to show what can

1889
01:09:49,510 --> 01:09:52,290
be possible with the, with the images tag.

1890
01:09:53,310 --> 01:09:55,130
So that's going to be, that's going to

1891
01:09:55,130 --> 01:09:57,070
be where we go and where we go

1892
01:09:57,070 --> 01:09:57,790
forward on that.

1893
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:58,970
So I'm, I don't, I don't want to

1894
01:09:58,970 --> 01:10:00,450
talk about it today too much, but I

1895
01:10:00,450 --> 01:10:03,250
just, that's, that's where we're headed next in

1896
01:10:03,250 --> 01:10:05,190
back, back into the mouth of the beast.

1897
01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:07,840
Okay.

1898
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:09,560
What does that mean?

1899
01:10:10,340 --> 01:10:12,620
Um, the, the images tag is the, it,

1900
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,680
oh, that's the mouth of the beast.

1901
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:16,400
Yeah.

1902
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:18,440
The B the images tag is the beast.

1903
01:10:19,020 --> 01:10:20,440
Oh goodness gracious.

1904
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,800
Uh, but I, in the meantime though, I

1905
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:28,140
have, I've started working on, um, uh, started

1906
01:10:28,140 --> 01:10:31,880
back working on the new parser, uh, the

1907
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,620
new, uh, yes.

1908
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:34,460
Yeah.

1909
01:10:34,460 --> 01:10:36,420
The new, the new, uh, parsing age party

1910
01:10:36,420 --> 01:10:37,760
time part.

1911
01:10:37,860 --> 01:10:38,020
Yeah.

1912
01:10:38,020 --> 01:10:39,180
The new version of party time.

1913
01:10:39,860 --> 01:10:41,920
Um, we can talk about that next week.

1914
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,880
I am, I do want to, I do

1915
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,520
want to run through though.

1916
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,640
Um, I've been promising, uh, Archie that I

1917
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,540
would just kind of lay out how our

1918
01:10:52,540 --> 01:10:54,080
backend is, is put together.

1919
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,480
Cause he's been asking about that.

1920
01:10:55,940 --> 01:10:57,560
I think, I mean, I think I've talked

1921
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,280
about this before, but maybe not.

1922
01:10:59,900 --> 01:11:01,760
I know, I know we've talked about all

1923
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,040
kinds of stuff, but, um, let me just

1924
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,780
make sure that, uh, that I give that

1925
01:11:08,780 --> 01:11:10,540
some time since I promised I would.

1926
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,680
Uh, so I mean, our infrastructure for the

1927
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,260
index is pretty simple.

1928
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,660
I'm trying to get, trying to get logged

1929
01:11:19,660 --> 01:11:20,180
in here.

1930
01:11:20,540 --> 01:11:21,020
Hang on a second.

1931
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,540
We, um, we just have a single, a

1932
01:11:25,540 --> 01:11:31,340
single main database, uh, running my SQL, you

1933
01:11:31,340 --> 01:11:33,020
know, trying to get my two factor code.

1934
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,460
I, I, I don't know on Leno.

1935
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:37,720
Do you always have to wait for the

1936
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,580
code through email when they log you out?

1937
01:11:40,900 --> 01:11:41,820
No, I have it.

1938
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,720
I have it in my, uh, code app

1939
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,160
one-time password app.

1940
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:47,180
Oh, okay.

1941
01:11:47,180 --> 01:11:49,040
I should probably use that because they can

1942
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,940
take five minutes to send that email.

1943
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:51,800
I always get worried.

1944
01:11:51,860 --> 01:11:52,840
I'm looking at spam.

1945
01:11:53,780 --> 01:11:54,400
It does.

1946
01:11:54,440 --> 01:11:56,580
Yeah, it does take sitting around like, come

1947
01:11:56,580 --> 01:11:57,440
on, come on.

1948
01:11:57,460 --> 01:11:59,320
I got a project to do.

1949
01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:01,820
Grok is waiting.

1950
01:12:03,140 --> 01:12:04,340
Grok is very patient.

1951
01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:05,160
I'll give it that.

1952
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,900
You can come back a day later and

1953
01:12:06,900 --> 01:12:08,720
says, hi, yeah, we're continuing.

1954
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:09,460
It's all good.

1955
01:12:10,580 --> 01:12:11,580
Um, okay.

1956
01:12:11,580 --> 01:12:14,240
So we got, we have one, one main

1957
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,520
MySQL database.

1958
01:12:16,020 --> 01:12:18,160
Uh, it's a 32 gigs of Ram.

1959
01:12:19,220 --> 01:12:20,100
Uh, I don't know.

1960
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,120
That's some bunch of bunch of desk.

1961
01:12:22,180 --> 01:12:23,820
I don't know how much disk it is,

1962
01:12:23,820 --> 01:12:26,700
like 640 gigs or something like that.

1963
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:27,100
Whoa.

1964
01:12:28,140 --> 01:12:29,200
Um, yeah, it's big.

1965
01:12:29,260 --> 01:12:30,940
It's, I mean, the database is big though.

1966
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,900
Uh, so we've got, uh, we've got that

1967
01:12:33,900 --> 01:12:36,380
it's running MySQL eight, uh, the front.

1968
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,920
So the front end is two, uh, two

1969
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:47,300
servers, uh, each running, uh, NGINX reverse proxying

1970
01:12:47,300 --> 01:12:55,420
into, uh, PHP FPM that then, um, you

1971
01:12:55,420 --> 01:12:58,100
know, sit in front of the database and

1972
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:01,980
those are load balanced using a cloud flare.

1973
01:13:02,340 --> 01:13:05,280
So we have, um, so it's, it's just

1974
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,820
round robin load balancing on that cloud flare,

1975
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:08,240
man.

1976
01:13:08,380 --> 01:13:11,280
What a genius operation that is really when

1977
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:12,100
you think about it.

1978
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,200
Oh, it's, it's so slick.

1979
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:15,800
It's a game and money saver.

1980
01:13:15,860 --> 01:13:16,700
It really is.

1981
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,820
You know, one of the best things about

1982
01:13:18,820 --> 01:13:21,760
cloud flare is you don't, it, you get

1983
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,080
to piggyback on their SSL certificates and you

1984
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,540
don't have to do, you don't have to

1985
01:13:25,540 --> 01:13:26,520
do all that junk.

1986
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:27,800
Oh, interesting.

1987
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:28,400
Interesting.

1988
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,660
You just proxy it and, and you get

1989
01:13:31,660 --> 01:13:36,200
to piggyback as an SN on their certificate.

1990
01:13:36,300 --> 01:13:37,320
Certificate is great.

1991
01:13:37,900 --> 01:13:38,000
Nice.

1992
01:13:38,660 --> 01:13:43,060
Um, so then, so that's, that's basically the

1993
01:13:43,060 --> 01:13:47,940
whole of the API, uh, direct API is

1994
01:13:47,940 --> 01:13:49,960
just the database and two front end servers.

1995
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,100
The two front end server is everything's Ubuntu,

1996
01:13:52,540 --> 01:13:57,520
uh, Ubuntu 20, Ubuntu 20 LTS, I think.

1997
01:13:58,340 --> 01:14:01,640
LTS 20.4. Is that it?

1998
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:01,900
Okay.

1999
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:02,300
Yes.

2000
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,660
I happen to have been doing some Linode

2001
01:14:04,660 --> 01:14:05,400
work lately.

2002
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:06,460
Okay.

2003
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:11,180
Uh, it's 20, it's 20 LTS.

2004
01:14:11,500 --> 01:14:15,920
And then, and then we have a, uh,

2005
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,660
then our main website is just, you know,

2006
01:14:17,660 --> 01:14:19,200
running off on a, on a thing.

2007
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,300
It's on its own on a small Linode.

2008
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,400
Uh, the, uh, no, nothing is running.

2009
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,960
None of that's the database and the front

2010
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:29,560
end servers.

2011
01:14:29,700 --> 01:14:32,020
None of that's running like Docker or anything.

2012
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:33,960
Those are, they're just running on bare metal,

2013
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,560
uh, the processes.

2014
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:40,560
Then we have 10 aggregators, uh, each running,

2015
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,620
um, on two, uh, excuse me, one, well,

2016
01:14:44,620 --> 01:14:46,020
about half of them are on one gig

2017
01:14:46,020 --> 01:14:49,180
Nanodes, the smallest, uh, Linode.

2018
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:53,240
And then, uh, three C six, uh, yeah,

2019
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:54,460
six of them are on that four of

2020
01:14:54,460 --> 01:14:57,640
them are owns two gig Linodes because they

2021
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:58,680
have more volume on them.

2022
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,820
And so each one of the aggregators is

2023
01:15:00,820 --> 01:15:05,360
just, is running party time and it, uh,

2024
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:07,780
runs, you know, runs it, it does the

2025
01:15:07,780 --> 01:15:10,320
puller, uh, runs the puller to pull the

2026
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:10,820
feeds.

2027
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,780
It processes them with party time and then

2028
01:15:13,780 --> 01:15:16,340
it directly talks to the database and does

2029
01:15:16,340 --> 01:15:20,340
SQL, uh, inject SQL execution on the database.

2030
01:15:21,180 --> 01:15:24,260
Uh, there's no pipeline of, of SQL.

2031
01:15:24,420 --> 01:15:27,920
It's just, everybody's talking to everybody's talking to

2032
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:28,720
the database at once.

2033
01:15:29,660 --> 01:15:33,260
Um, then we have our search indexers.

2034
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,220
We have three of those.

2035
01:15:36,850 --> 01:15:40,880
We've got the main indexer just pulls the

2036
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:46,560
database every 15 to 20 minutes and, um,

2037
01:15:46,740 --> 01:15:50,880
searches for, it's running, uh, Manta, uh, Sphinx

2038
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:51,560
Manticore.

2039
01:15:52,220 --> 01:15:57,000
And it's a very lightweight, very fast, uh,

2040
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,920
search, uh, language index on Dick can sit

2041
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,080
on top of my SQL.

2042
01:16:02,460 --> 01:16:05,960
So we have, um, you have three, uh,

2043
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:07,420
instances of that.

2044
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:11,180
Uh, the main one pulls every 15 to

2045
01:16:11,180 --> 01:16:14,060
20 minutes and look and just indexes the

2046
01:16:14,060 --> 01:16:16,800
title of the fee of the podcast and

2047
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:21,120
the author and, uh, the, the author field.

2048
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,720
And then, um, we have another one that

2049
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:29,240
is, uh, the person tag search, um, not

2050
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,340
the tag, but there's a person search.

2051
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:36,020
Um, and then another Sphinx Manticore instance, which

2052
01:16:36,020 --> 01:16:37,960
runs and does autocomplete.

2053
01:16:38,420 --> 01:16:41,660
So in the API documentation, there's that's a

2054
01:16:41,660 --> 01:16:44,060
sexy, you didn't know we had, I did

2055
01:16:44,060 --> 01:16:44,800
not know that.

2056
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:45,860
No, that's cool.

2057
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:46,280
Wow.

2058
01:16:46,300 --> 01:16:46,640
Nice.

2059
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,380
We did that a long time ago for,

2060
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,380
uh, for Martin, may he rest in peace

2061
01:16:50,380 --> 01:16:53,960
of a pod friend, our Danish friend.

2062
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:54,720
Yes.

2063
01:16:55,420 --> 01:16:58,980
Um, he's going to come back one day.

2064
01:16:59,020 --> 01:17:00,580
He's going to have a whole new interface.

2065
01:17:01,900 --> 01:17:04,580
We get angry when we, uh, when we

2066
01:17:04,580 --> 01:17:05,920
encroached upon Greenland.

2067
01:17:06,060 --> 01:17:06,540
Yeah.

2068
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,360
He's like, Hey man, that's our stuff.

2069
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:10,160
Yeah.

2070
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,860
Then we got, um, I'm sorry, we got

2071
01:17:13,860 --> 01:17:14,780
four search indexes.

2072
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,400
There's also the value for value podcasts.

2073
01:17:17,660 --> 01:17:18,300
Those have their own.

2074
01:17:18,380 --> 01:17:19,680
Ah, yes, of course.

2075
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:20,580
Of course.

2076
01:17:21,420 --> 01:17:24,840
And then, uh, there's the, then there's three

2077
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,280
like utility servers.

2078
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:27,540
You might want to call it.

2079
01:17:27,620 --> 01:17:30,580
There's a, an email server that's just running

2080
01:17:30,580 --> 01:17:32,760
on a tiny, you know, one gig nano

2081
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:33,940
at five bucks a month.

2082
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,360
And all it does is act as a

2083
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,060
bastion host for email to go out.

2084
01:17:40,300 --> 01:17:44,060
So any, any email traffic all goes through,

2085
01:17:44,580 --> 01:17:46,880
all goes through that host thing gets redirected

2086
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:51,060
to, um, Mailgun and then Mailgun does the

2087
01:17:51,060 --> 01:17:53,140
delivery of the, of the, of the email.

2088
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,120
Uh, then there's a utility server, which is

2089
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,340
a four gig load and it's it that

2090
01:17:59,340 --> 01:18:02,880
handles all of the backups, like nightly backups,

2091
01:18:03,020 --> 01:18:03,780
weekly backups.

2092
01:18:04,540 --> 01:18:08,740
Um, it, what it monitors pod ping, um,

2093
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,800
and flags the database for, you know, when

2094
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,320
things need to be pulled.

2095
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,360
Um, and does a whole bunch of just

2096
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,740
any, anything and everything that did this just

2097
01:18:19,740 --> 01:18:22,300
sort of like utility work that happens on

2098
01:18:22,300 --> 01:18:23,760
the, on, on the index.

2099
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,840
It's all running through that one, that server

2100
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,700
runs all those cron jobs and does all

2101
01:18:28,700 --> 01:18:29,180
that stuff.

2102
01:18:29,460 --> 01:18:34,240
Uh, pruning, uh, slow polling for specific things

2103
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:34,900
that are needed.

2104
01:18:35,460 --> 01:18:37,980
Uh, the weekly database dump, all that stuff

2105
01:18:37,980 --> 01:18:39,400
happens on that one server.

2106
01:18:39,660 --> 01:18:39,900
Nice.

2107
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:46,300
There's a webhook gateway server that handles, um,

2108
01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:51,700
stuff that handles things coming from, um, CurioCaster

2109
01:18:51,700 --> 01:18:55,160
or not CurioCaster, but, um, Sovereign Feeds.

2110
01:18:55,420 --> 01:18:56,220
Sovereign Feeds.

2111
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:56,440
Yes.

2112
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:57,220
Thank you.

2113
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,300
That handles webhooks coming from Sovereign Feeds.

2114
01:18:59,460 --> 01:19:01,900
Can I just say once again, thank you

2115
01:19:01,900 --> 01:19:04,160
so much Stephen B for Sovereign Feeds.

2116
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:05,160
It is my life.

2117
01:19:05,900 --> 01:19:07,940
It truly is my life.

2118
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,220
Thank you for, he added the location tags.

2119
01:19:10,940 --> 01:19:14,980
That is, that is such a wonderful, wonderful,

2120
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:15,820
wonderful tool.

2121
01:19:16,340 --> 01:19:17,120
Thank you so much.

2122
01:19:17,180 --> 01:19:18,300
In fact, I'm going to send him some

2123
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:19,860
Satoshis right now.

2124
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:21,600
I forget to do that from time to

2125
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:21,860
time.

2126
01:19:22,020 --> 01:19:23,360
He's in my splits, but he needs, he

2127
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:24,020
needs a boost.

2128
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:25,020
He's a bonus boost.

2129
01:19:26,580 --> 01:19:30,680
The, uh, the webhook gateway also, uh, unlocks

2130
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:38,080
our, um, the podcast index lightning node from

2131
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:38,760
Voltage.

2132
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,780
So it auto unlocks that.

2133
01:19:42,340 --> 01:19:45,800
Um, it basically does any webhook traffic that's

2134
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:46,220
necessary.

2135
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,640
Uh, and then we have, uh, and that's,

2136
01:19:50,700 --> 01:19:52,000
that's running on just the five bucks a

2137
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,120
month, uh, Nanode.

2138
01:19:53,180 --> 01:19:56,660
And then we have a, uh, a, a,

2139
01:19:56,780 --> 01:20:01,080
we have a server dedicated to lightning node

2140
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:07,080
maintenance and all the stuff that goes around

2141
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,980
lightning so that it interacts with our lightning

2142
01:20:10,980 --> 01:20:15,540
node and is constantly pulling once a minute

2143
01:20:15,540 --> 01:20:17,780
it's pulling the node and pulling in transactions.

2144
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,220
And that's what's responsible for generating like the

2145
01:20:21,220 --> 01:20:21,740
charts.

2146
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:27,360
And that's how I pull, um, weekly, uh,

2147
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:28,220
booster grams.

2148
01:20:28,980 --> 01:20:31,640
And it just keeps a running total of

2149
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:32,640
all the transactions.

2150
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,920
And it's, it's constantly sucking them into a

2151
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:35,680
MySQL database.

2152
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,020
So to make it easy to search at

2153
01:20:38,020 --> 01:20:39,120
the end, at the end of the year

2154
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:40,860
for taxes, we had to dump all those

2155
01:20:40,860 --> 01:20:42,180
things out, all this kind of stuff.

2156
01:20:42,900 --> 01:20:45,640
Um, so that's, that's on a server by

2157
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:45,960
itself.

2158
01:20:46,060 --> 01:20:48,040
And then we have 1, 2, 3, 4,

2159
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:52,120
5 pod ping hosts, uh, one in Australia,

2160
01:20:52,380 --> 01:20:55,040
one in Europe and three in the U

2161
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,440
S by region.

2162
01:20:56,540 --> 01:20:59,140
So there's one, I hope everybody who's in

2163
01:20:59,140 --> 01:21:02,000
the board meeting and listening is proud of

2164
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,340
what you all have accomplished.

2165
01:21:03,480 --> 01:21:05,440
I mean, Dave, you've done this work.

2166
01:21:05,500 --> 01:21:05,960
Thank you.

2167
01:21:05,980 --> 01:21:06,460
Of course.

2168
01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:09,840
But man, I mean, with all the, just

2169
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,320
the whole community and the, the funding from

2170
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,340
the community has just been phenomenal.

2171
01:21:14,580 --> 01:21:15,980
Look at, look at what we've created.

2172
01:21:16,580 --> 01:21:18,500
Don't break your arm, patting yourself on the

2173
01:21:18,500 --> 01:21:20,200
back, but Holy mackerel.

2174
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:21,780
It's awesome.

2175
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:22,240
It is.

2176
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,020
I just got to stop and say, it's

2177
01:21:24,020 --> 01:21:24,460
awesome.

2178
01:21:24,780 --> 01:21:26,640
What a, what a group, what a group.

2179
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,100
And we're all pretty too, except for that,

2180
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,200
and good looking, that undefined guy though.

2181
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:33,300
I'm not too sure about him.

2182
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:34,060
Yeah.

2183
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:35,280
Holding judgment with that.

2184
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,760
Um, and then there's activity pub bridge that's

2185
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,000
running on a two gig linode.

2186
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,040
Um, people probably may forget that even exists,

2187
01:21:44,620 --> 01:21:47,360
but the activity pro bridge is there.

2188
01:21:47,380 --> 01:21:50,640
And then, um, we got one other nanode

2189
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:55,200
that's just, uh, used for various things.

2190
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,120
I use it for testing new, you know,

2191
01:21:57,140 --> 01:21:58,300
new stuff where I don't have any other

2192
01:21:58,300 --> 01:21:59,000
place to put it.

2193
01:21:59,220 --> 01:22:01,180
So all now he has one, two, three,

2194
01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:07,940
four, five, five, there's 10, 20, say 24,

2195
01:22:08,140 --> 01:22:11,140
25, 26, 30 servers.

2196
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,700
We have a lot.

2197
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,840
So let's, uh, let's thank some people who

2198
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,100
help keep those servers running.

2199
01:22:17,140 --> 01:22:17,800
Shall we, Dave?

2200
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:19,140
Yes, let's do it.

2201
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,280
Because, uh, you're going back to the office

2202
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:21,460
today.

2203
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:22,880
It feels like you're at home today.

2204
01:22:22,900 --> 01:22:23,580
I don't know why.

2205
01:22:23,580 --> 01:22:26,600
Uh, I am, I'm at home currently, but

2206
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:27,620
I am going back to the office.

2207
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:28,260
Oh, okay.

2208
01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:30,020
It felt like you were at home this

2209
01:22:30,020 --> 01:22:30,300
morning.

2210
01:22:32,460 --> 01:22:35,740
No, it's, uh, it's post tax season.

2211
01:22:35,860 --> 01:22:37,480
Very slow at the office right now.

2212
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,680
Dave's like on the ball, like, Oh, well

2213
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,140
he's not, he answered another message.

2214
01:22:43,780 --> 01:22:45,580
He answered in less than an hour.

2215
01:22:45,780 --> 01:22:47,880
Well, Hey, I'll take a day.

2216
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:48,600
So it's all right.

2217
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:49,160
I get it.

2218
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:50,180
Thank you.

2219
01:22:50,340 --> 01:22:52,500
See loss on Linux two, three, four, five.

2220
01:22:52,580 --> 01:22:54,780
He says, I think with podcasts have to

2221
01:22:54,780 --> 01:22:55,540
have RSS.

2222
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,340
We have enough elitism already.

2223
01:22:57,480 --> 01:22:59,660
We don't need everything needs to be pure

2224
01:22:59,660 --> 01:23:00,900
Bitcoin elitism.

2225
01:23:01,060 --> 01:23:02,340
No, I'm I'm with you, brother.

2226
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:03,400
I'm with you.

2227
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:05,420
Uh, let's see.

2228
01:23:05,460 --> 01:23:08,500
Martin Linda's Coke, AKA Lyceum coming in from

2229
01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:11,140
a true fans, 420 sets.

2230
01:23:11,140 --> 01:23:13,320
Thanks for your economics in one lesson about

2231
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,040
stable coins, funding tag, et cetera.

2232
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,300
I'm happy to be a super fan of

2233
01:23:16,300 --> 01:23:18,580
your podcast on true fans game on and

2234
01:23:18,580 --> 01:23:19,520
go podcasting.

2235
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,380
I'll top up my wallet next week.

2236
01:23:22,540 --> 01:23:23,180
Lovely.

2237
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:25,840
Stephen B one Oh one.

2238
01:23:25,980 --> 01:23:27,760
And he says it's coming.

2239
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:29,080
It's coming.

2240
01:23:29,980 --> 01:23:31,320
What's coming?

2241
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:32,340
It's coming.

2242
01:23:32,460 --> 01:23:33,400
You don't know that it's coming.

2243
01:23:34,100 --> 01:23:36,500
Oh, it's coming.

2244
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:41,660
May 10th, 10th, 10th, the satellite spotlight.

2245
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,720
See the future of everything.

2246
01:23:45,060 --> 01:23:48,760
Everything podcasting 2.0 has been working on

2247
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,620
for the last few years, few years, May

2248
01:23:51,620 --> 01:23:55,800
10th, 2025, the satellite spotlight.

2249
01:23:57,480 --> 01:23:59,720
I did a promo right there.

2250
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,780
35 nitro burning funny cars.

2251
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,620
Triple seven from Sam, Sam over there to

2252
01:24:09,620 --> 01:24:10,220
true fans.

2253
01:24:10,300 --> 01:24:11,100
I'm so happy.

2254
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,300
Apple are being forced to change their feudal

2255
01:24:13,300 --> 01:24:13,720
tax.

2256
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:15,780
The EU will follow and then we can

2257
01:24:15,780 --> 01:24:17,440
submit our true fans native app.

2258
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,020
I assume Google will be forced to do

2259
01:24:19,020 --> 01:24:20,240
the same for the play store.

2260
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:23,180
Spotify's updated app is already available.

2261
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,560
Patreon are updating their new app next.

2262
01:24:25,660 --> 01:24:26,980
Yes, this is a sea change.

2263
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:28,700
I think as we call it a sea

2264
01:24:28,700 --> 01:24:30,180
change, sea change.

2265
01:24:30,980 --> 01:24:32,860
Yeah, I don't know if, I don't know

2266
01:24:32,860 --> 01:24:36,080
what Google's current policies are.

2267
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:37,840
I really not familiar with it.

2268
01:24:37,860 --> 01:24:39,580
I think they have a similar thing, but

2269
01:24:39,580 --> 01:24:41,600
I just don't think they're as aggressive as

2270
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:42,220
Apple is.

2271
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,720
But I think even, even if they were,

2272
01:24:45,420 --> 01:24:49,840
it's clear that this is a chilling of

2273
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:50,440
all that.

2274
01:24:50,580 --> 01:24:53,340
I mean, I, I really think that, that,

2275
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,700
that Google would not have a whole lot

2276
01:24:56,700 --> 01:24:59,100
of desire to do strict enforcement of any

2277
01:24:59,100 --> 01:24:59,880
of that kind of thing.

2278
01:24:59,940 --> 01:25:02,420
I, I think you're, I think the feeling

2279
01:25:02,420 --> 01:25:04,140
that you have, Sam is totally correct.

2280
01:25:04,140 --> 01:25:05,640
Yes, I agree too.

2281
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,520
Uh, four sevens from Dreb Scott.

2282
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,200
He says, uh, coming in from podverse, thanks

2283
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:13,960
everyone for their patience with delays.

2284
01:25:14,060 --> 01:25:15,660
Am I posting of chapters lately?

2285
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,340
Hey brother, you know me.

2286
01:25:18,380 --> 01:25:19,780
I'm like, I'm amazed you do it at

2287
01:25:19,780 --> 01:25:20,060
all.

2288
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:21,060
I appreciate it.

2289
01:25:21,420 --> 01:25:23,740
I've recently started exercising to try to lose

2290
01:25:23,740 --> 01:25:25,100
about 50 pounds.

2291
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,120
I started gaining when my now eight year

2292
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,280
old was I hear you got to drop

2293
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:31,020
the baby weight.

2294
01:25:32,580 --> 01:25:35,120
The exercise is making me more tired than

2295
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:36,980
usual and using up my extra energy that

2296
01:25:36,980 --> 01:25:38,580
I use for chapters doing my best to

2297
01:25:38,580 --> 01:25:38,900
keep up.

2298
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,100
Thanks again for your patience.

2299
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:41,880
Hashtag go podcasting brother.

2300
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,140
It is all okay.

2301
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,740
I appreciate what you do, man.

2302
01:25:46,820 --> 01:25:47,500
I really do.

2303
01:25:47,660 --> 01:25:50,240
Uh, he does chapters for no agenda podcasting

2304
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:51,700
2.0 curry in the keeper.

2305
01:25:52,260 --> 01:25:53,780
I know he does it for at least

2306
01:25:53,780 --> 01:25:54,680
three more shows.

2307
01:25:54,780 --> 01:25:56,180
He just does a ton of work.

2308
01:25:56,180 --> 01:25:58,760
The Bruce Wayne of podcasting 2.0. Thank

2309
01:25:58,760 --> 01:25:59,120
you brother.

2310
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:01,440
And uh, there's the delimiter.

2311
01:26:01,660 --> 01:26:02,560
So you're up Dave.

2312
01:26:03,500 --> 01:26:10,980
Oh, we had one counting one, uh, PayPal,

2313
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:12,700
PayPal, PayPal, one off PayPal.

2314
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:13,020
Yeah.

2315
01:26:13,020 --> 01:26:14,540
It's very slow these days.

2316
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:15,040
Very slow.

2317
01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:15,860
It's tax season.

2318
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,100
It's not summer.

2319
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:19,120
It's not summer.

2320
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,300
It kind of is.

2321
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:21,060
It's not here.

2322
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:22,740
It's not summer.

2323
01:26:22,980 --> 01:26:23,240
Yeah.

2324
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:23,520
Summer.

2325
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:24,880
Not people already getting out of school.

2326
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,460
Jason Tiamin, $10.

2327
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:28,800
Thank you, Jason.

2328
01:26:28,900 --> 01:26:29,660
Thank you very much.

2329
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:30,080
Thank you.

2330
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:30,660
Appreciate it.

2331
01:26:31,220 --> 01:26:32,760
We did have some booster grams though.

2332
01:26:32,820 --> 01:26:34,960
We've got plenty of plenty of booster grams.

2333
01:26:36,620 --> 01:26:39,500
We've got, um, boost the grams of plenty.

2334
01:26:40,300 --> 01:26:43,720
Uh, we've got Sam 42, 19.

2335
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:45,100
Welcome back.

2336
01:26:45,260 --> 01:26:45,820
Welcome back.

2337
01:26:45,860 --> 01:26:46,100
Gents.

2338
01:26:46,220 --> 01:26:48,000
Friday night restored red wine in hand and

2339
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:48,520
geek chat.

2340
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:48,920
Yeah.

2341
01:26:48,940 --> 01:26:49,960
I think we read that one on the

2342
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:50,900
last show actually.

2343
01:26:51,220 --> 01:26:52,340
Oh, did I?

2344
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:52,940
Yeah.

2345
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,080
You might've doubled up, doubled up, doubled down.

2346
01:26:55,820 --> 01:26:58,360
April 25th.

2347
01:26:59,020 --> 01:27:01,160
Did I pull the wrong start?

2348
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:01,760
Let me see.

2349
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:06,700
Our last show, our last show was April

2350
01:27:06,700 --> 01:27:07,960
25th.

2351
01:27:07,980 --> 01:27:08,240
Yes.

2352
01:27:09,540 --> 01:27:12,100
So everything from the 25th you can ignore.

2353
01:27:12,940 --> 01:27:14,460
You may have, that may have come in

2354
01:27:14,460 --> 01:27:16,220
from the, I may have had my, uh,

2355
01:27:16,220 --> 01:27:17,240
Tom stamp wrong.

2356
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:19,340
Uh, let's see.

2357
01:27:20,780 --> 01:27:21,180
1701.

2358
01:27:23,420 --> 01:27:24,580
Yeah, we've got a butt.

2359
01:27:25,060 --> 01:27:27,660
Ooh, a bunch of these.

2360
01:27:27,940 --> 01:27:30,960
Captain sweatpants says my boost didn't make it,

2361
01:27:31,020 --> 01:27:33,020
but shows it went through on my node.

2362
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:33,320
Okay.

2363
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:34,140
I'll read your boost.

2364
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,520
I listened to a podcast last weekend that

2365
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:37,520
said podcasting too.

2366
01:27:37,580 --> 01:27:38,020
Oh, wait a minute.

2367
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:38,920
I did see that one.

2368
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,340
How come I, did I miss that one?

2369
01:27:40,420 --> 01:27:41,240
Hold on a second, brother.

2370
01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:42,600
No, we're discombobulated.

2371
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:43,440
This is falling apart.

2372
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:44,780
Yeah, it is falling apart.

2373
01:27:45,460 --> 01:27:48,740
Um, I'm sure I saw that one somewhere.

2374
01:27:48,900 --> 01:27:49,240
Hold on.

2375
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:49,780
Hold on.

2376
01:27:50,260 --> 01:27:52,300
I thought I saw that boost come through.

2377
01:27:53,620 --> 01:27:54,980
I know I saw it.

2378
01:27:55,300 --> 01:27:57,060
Well, anyway, I'll read it from your, uh,

2379
01:27:57,060 --> 01:28:00,340
from, from the board, the boardroom, uh, listened

2380
01:28:00,340 --> 01:28:02,420
to a podcast last weekend that said podcasting

2381
01:28:02,420 --> 01:28:04,260
2.0 is just too geeky for the

2382
01:28:04,260 --> 01:28:05,460
average podcast listener.

2383
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,080
Well, duh, it's supposed to be we have

2384
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,420
fun with all the sexy namespace and coding

2385
01:28:11,420 --> 01:28:12,360
talk each week.

2386
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,060
Jeez.

2387
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:14,720
Go podcasting.

2388
01:28:16,180 --> 01:28:18,080
Michael, what happened to that?

2389
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,500
I know I saw that boost come in.

2390
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:21,900
I did it disappear.

2391
01:28:22,020 --> 01:28:23,040
Oh, there it is.

2392
01:28:23,700 --> 01:28:23,840
Yeah.

2393
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,480
13, 13, hiding in plain sight.

2394
01:28:25,580 --> 01:28:26,700
You had hiding in plain sight.

2395
01:28:27,020 --> 01:28:28,220
1321 Randy black.

2396
01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:28,700
Thank you.

2397
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:29,240
Gotcha.

2398
01:28:30,440 --> 01:28:34,040
Uh, Lyceum one, one, one, one central Richards

2399
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,460
through true fans, Dave, an episode of episode

2400
01:28:37,460 --> 01:28:38,620
171, a butt cast.

2401
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:40,660
Uh, I think we read that one too.

2402
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:40,900
What?

2403
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,600
But I heard you said, but cast, I

2404
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,680
heard you say, but cast, what are you

2405
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:48,220
listening to?

2406
01:28:48,420 --> 01:28:54,940
Title, but cast, um, oh yeah, we read

2407
01:28:54,940 --> 01:28:55,320
that one too.

2408
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,760
I, this, my time, you're all over the

2409
01:28:58,760 --> 01:28:59,420
map, man.

2410
01:28:59,980 --> 01:29:01,060
They're mixed up.

2411
01:29:01,140 --> 01:29:01,340
Okay.

2412
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:02,480
This is not, thank you.

2413
01:29:02,500 --> 01:29:03,820
Mike Dell 1701.

2414
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:04,480
Hi guys.

2415
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:04,980
Long time.

2416
01:29:05,020 --> 01:29:05,500
No talk.

2417
01:29:05,540 --> 01:29:05,740
Yes.

2418
01:29:05,740 --> 01:29:06,320
We see you.

2419
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,540
We see a Cole McCormick Godcaster video coming

2420
01:29:09,540 --> 01:29:10,060
Sunday.

2421
01:29:10,460 --> 01:29:11,940
Oh, thank you.

2422
01:29:11,940 --> 01:29:12,280
Cole.

2423
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:13,700
We've, we hired Cole.

2424
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:14,560
Oh, nice.

2425
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:14,740
Yeah.

2426
01:29:14,740 --> 01:29:16,940
We hired Cole to do some Godcaster videos.

2427
01:29:17,460 --> 01:29:17,940
Okay.

2428
01:29:17,980 --> 01:29:20,900
Look, I think I've found, I think I've

2429
01:29:20,900 --> 01:29:21,880
found my figured it out.

2430
01:29:22,460 --> 01:29:22,940
Yeah.

2431
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,800
The timestamp was wrong.

2432
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:27,780
Uh, Hey citizen.

2433
01:29:28,500 --> 01:29:29,200
Hey citizen.

2434
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:30,580
69 69.

2435
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,420
The pod verse says, thanks again for the

2436
01:29:33,420 --> 01:29:34,080
index fellas.

2437
01:29:34,220 --> 01:29:36,320
Last episode gave me a strange impression that

2438
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:37,860
we're going our separate ways.

2439
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,580
Monetizing V for V using well established platforms

2440
01:29:40,580 --> 01:29:42,480
like Patreon for easier onboarding.

2441
01:29:42,580 --> 01:29:44,220
Am I reading too much into this love

2442
01:29:44,220 --> 01:29:44,660
and lit?

2443
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:50,420
I don't know what read that again.

2444
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:51,540
Read that again.

2445
01:29:51,740 --> 01:29:52,300
Read that again.

2446
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,940
He says last episode gave me a strange

2447
01:29:54,940 --> 01:29:55,760
impression with it.

2448
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,340
We're going our separate ways.

2449
01:29:57,540 --> 01:30:01,120
Monetizing V for V using well established platforms

2450
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,360
like Patreon for easier onboarding.

2451
01:30:04,180 --> 01:30:04,620
No.

2452
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,300
Well, yeah, you're reading too much into it.

2453
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:08,280
You are.

2454
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:08,700
Yeah.

2455
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,080
As usual.

2456
01:30:11,420 --> 01:30:13,300
You know, it's, listen, you're in a Curry

2457
01:30:13,300 --> 01:30:14,420
world experiment.

2458
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:15,900
I'm always 10 years early.

2459
01:30:15,900 --> 01:30:17,800
We've got five more years to go before

2460
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,700
V for V V for V really works.

2461
01:30:19,820 --> 01:30:21,860
And at that point, Jack Mollers is going

2462
01:30:21,860 --> 01:30:23,080
to make all the money and we'll still

2463
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,060
be sitting here doing this silly podcast with

2464
01:30:25,060 --> 01:30:25,840
y'all.

2465
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,140
Prediction point trillionaire.

2466
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,340
This is a prediction guaranteed.

2467
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,420
That's my lot in life.

2468
01:30:33,540 --> 01:30:34,840
I get to have a lot of fun,

2469
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:35,600
but no money.

2470
01:30:36,660 --> 01:30:39,420
No, I mean, I don't see, I mean,

2471
01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:40,620
I don't see anything changing.

2472
01:30:40,660 --> 01:30:43,180
I mean, we, I think in order to,

2473
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,320
you have to, you have to hit every,

2474
01:30:46,220 --> 01:30:50,160
um, if you're a, if you're a podcaster,

2475
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,320
you have to allow people to give to

2476
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:56,380
you in whatever way that they feel.

2477
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:57,120
Yes.

2478
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:02,380
Do you know that, um, Dvorak go, we

2479
01:31:02,380 --> 01:31:03,640
have a, a bank.

2480
01:31:03,700 --> 01:31:04,520
I think I might've told you this.

2481
01:31:04,540 --> 01:31:07,980
We have a bank in, in, uh, California

2482
01:31:07,980 --> 01:31:10,560
near him in Albany, I think.

2483
01:31:11,060 --> 01:31:13,180
And it's called mechanics bank, which is clearly

2484
01:31:13,180 --> 01:31:14,180
a gangster bank.

2485
01:31:14,580 --> 01:31:17,580
And, uh, and he cannot change banks because

2486
01:31:17,580 --> 01:31:19,660
the only bank that will accept him coming

2487
01:31:19,660 --> 01:31:22,560
in every two weeks with like a stack

2488
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,900
of 50 checks for like three to all

2489
01:31:25,900 --> 01:31:29,920
different $3 and 33 cents, $5, you know,

2490
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:31,020
it's just, and it's great.

2491
01:31:31,140 --> 01:31:33,500
Now they do charges, but only 15 cents

2492
01:31:33,500 --> 01:31:35,520
flat fee for each check they process.

2493
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:41,020
So we'll take anything except Bitcoin, stupid Dvorak.

2494
01:31:42,860 --> 01:31:45,620
It's, I mean, you gotta, you know, you

2495
01:31:45,620 --> 01:31:47,400
have to allow checks, PayPal.

2496
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:52,060
You just can't, you can't be jihadist to

2497
01:31:52,060 --> 01:31:53,600
get about it, you know?

2498
01:31:54,300 --> 01:31:56,460
No, I mean, it's crazy.

2499
01:31:56,980 --> 01:31:58,200
If you say someone says, Oh, I want

2500
01:31:58,200 --> 01:31:59,640
to, I want to, this is why I'm

2501
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:00,780
so frustrated with Bitcoin.

2502
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:02,120
The other day was so happy.

2503
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,400
Oh, we can now take Bitcoin.

2504
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,180
I'm like, what do you mean through Stripe?

2505
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,460
I go, look, no, they can take stable

2506
01:32:09,460 --> 01:32:09,980
coin.

2507
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:13,400
No Bitcoin.

2508
01:32:13,940 --> 01:32:16,200
I said, but you know, Trump takes it

2509
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:17,500
for his, his sneakers.

2510
01:32:18,420 --> 01:32:19,800
Bobby, the op takes it.

2511
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:21,180
Robert Kennedy jr.

2512
01:32:21,260 --> 01:32:23,100
Takes it for, took it for his campaign.

2513
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:25,320
We'll get there.

2514
01:32:25,380 --> 01:32:26,000
We'll get there.

2515
01:32:26,540 --> 01:32:27,260
He's just mad.

2516
01:32:27,340 --> 01:32:27,940
He's just mad.

2517
01:32:28,020 --> 01:32:28,500
He's mad.

2518
01:32:29,460 --> 01:32:30,160
Nothing's changed.

2519
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:31,620
No, nothing's changed.

2520
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:33,360
But yes, the bottom line is you got

2521
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,840
to give every people the opportunity to donate

2522
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:37,080
however they want to.

2523
01:32:38,140 --> 01:32:41,280
And it should be stable coin, Bitcoin, lightning,

2524
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,360
meme coin, Trump coin.

2525
01:32:43,460 --> 01:32:44,040
I don't care.

2526
01:32:44,860 --> 01:32:45,000
Yeah.

2527
01:32:45,140 --> 01:32:48,020
Anything, anything that you can pay your bills

2528
01:32:48,020 --> 01:32:48,400
with.

2529
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:49,540
Yes.

2530
01:32:49,740 --> 01:32:50,140
Correct.

2531
01:32:51,100 --> 01:32:52,000
See loss on Linux.

2532
01:32:52,380 --> 01:32:55,580
That's where Richard's one, one, one, one, through

2533
01:32:55,580 --> 01:32:56,140
fountain.

2534
01:32:56,260 --> 01:32:58,140
He says this vibe coding talk cements what

2535
01:32:58,140 --> 01:32:59,380
I boosted in previous shows.

2536
01:32:59,380 --> 01:33:01,580
You need to know how to code and

2537
01:33:01,580 --> 01:33:03,340
the more detailed your instructions are, the better

2538
01:33:03,340 --> 01:33:03,860
it will do.

2539
01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:06,500
Probably also depends on how much memory the

2540
01:33:06,500 --> 01:33:08,760
app and context window, the LLM has.

2541
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:10,280
Yeah.

2542
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,240
Knowing how to code in order to use

2543
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,540
one of these things is pretty handy.

2544
01:33:15,540 --> 01:33:15,640
Yes.

2545
01:33:15,660 --> 01:33:15,880
Handy.

2546
01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:16,680
Very handy.

2547
01:33:17,060 --> 01:33:23,080
Um, aqualith media, 10 33 through fountain says,

2548
01:33:23,100 --> 01:33:25,400
uh, the live stream on my podcast part,

2549
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,020
just lit my mind on fire soon.

2550
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:28,860
Go podcast.

2551
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:30,900
He has go podcasting.

2552
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:31,820
Go, go, go.

2553
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:32,580
Yes.

2554
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,380
Bruce, the ugly duck, ugly quacking duck to,

2555
01:33:36,500 --> 01:33:40,000
to, to, to do podcast guru love funding

2556
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,300
tag using butts, bus sprout, butt sprout, using

2557
01:33:43,300 --> 01:33:47,360
bus sprout, hosting, but sprout, um, a push

2558
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:48,500
of the funding button.

2559
01:33:49,060 --> 01:33:51,020
And it takes you to my, uh, push

2560
01:33:51,020 --> 01:33:52,200
the funding button and it takes you to

2561
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,920
my support page on my website with different

2562
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:55,720
ways to support.

2563
01:33:55,900 --> 01:33:57,320
Thanks for the episode 73 years.

2564
01:33:57,720 --> 01:33:58,380
Yes.

2565
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:04,640
The, the bus sprout way of doing, uh,

2566
01:34:04,740 --> 01:34:09,700
the funding tag is, uh, I think it's

2567
01:34:09,700 --> 01:34:11,480
the way to do it.

2568
01:34:11,660 --> 01:34:14,840
You tap the funding link and you land

2569
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,380
on a page and you just can donate

2570
01:34:17,380 --> 01:34:19,080
like five different ways.

2571
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:19,580
Yeah.

2572
01:34:20,340 --> 01:34:22,200
It's just so easy.

2573
01:34:22,340 --> 01:34:25,200
I wish other hosts would build a similar

2574
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:25,640
backend.

2575
01:34:26,940 --> 01:34:28,360
It's the way to go.

2576
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:28,880
Yes.

2577
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:30,640
Uh, comic strip blogger.

2578
01:34:30,700 --> 01:34:31,640
Oh, let me make sure.

2579
01:34:31,980 --> 01:34:32,800
Is that the delimiter?

2580
01:34:32,900 --> 01:34:34,220
We hit the delimiter delimiter.

2581
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:35,340
That is the delimiter.

2582
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:36,200
Let me make sure.

2583
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:36,420
Yep.

2584
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:36,700
Yep.

2585
01:34:36,700 --> 01:34:37,080
We're good.

2586
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,980
Comedy strip blogger, 15 four 65.

2587
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:40,600
Yeah.

2588
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:41,080
Fountain.

2589
01:34:42,660 --> 01:34:45,600
Howdy Bitcoiners, Adam and Dave, please tell your

2590
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,880
audience to visit my blog at www dot

2591
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,200
C S B dot L O L for

2592
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,660
my mostly hand-drawn cartoons about artificial intelligence,

2593
01:34:55,100 --> 01:34:57,540
about podcasting 2.0 and dogs.

2594
01:34:57,940 --> 01:35:00,120
These are copyright free cartoons.

2595
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,420
So anybody can repost or use anywhere.

2596
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,420
Also follow me on X at C dot

2597
01:35:05,420 --> 01:35:08,760
S dot B just the three letters C

2598
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:14,280
S B C S B C S B

2599
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,740
little house ad from comic strip blogger.

2600
01:35:21,480 --> 01:35:25,760
We got some, uh, monthlies.

2601
01:35:26,060 --> 01:35:26,520
All right.

2602
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:30,620
Uh, Chris Bernardik, $5, Michael Kimmerer, $5 and

2603
01:35:30,620 --> 01:35:31,420
33 cents.

2604
01:35:31,420 --> 01:35:33,180
Dreb Scott, $15.

2605
01:35:33,620 --> 01:35:34,020
Thank you.

2606
01:35:34,420 --> 01:35:35,480
Now lighter.

2607
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:40,840
Dreb Scott, the 50 pounds lighter, uh, Cameron

2608
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:41,940
Rose, $25.

2609
01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:45,000
Chad Pharaoh, $20 and 22 cents.

2610
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,000
Kevin Bay is $5.

2611
01:35:47,180 --> 01:35:47,700
Thank you, Chad.

2612
01:35:48,140 --> 01:35:49,980
By the way, uh, Kevin Bay, $5.

2613
01:35:50,260 --> 01:35:52,480
Jason, uh, see, uh, Martin Lindeskog, $1.

2614
01:35:52,740 --> 01:35:54,120
Mark Graham, $1.

2615
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,600
And, uh, Brendan over a pod page, $25.

2616
01:35:57,100 --> 01:35:59,080
Ah, love you guys all so much.

2617
01:35:59,080 --> 01:35:59,700
And gals.

2618
01:35:59,820 --> 01:36:01,220
I'm sure some gals are hiding in there.

2619
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:02,240
Thank you for supporting.

2620
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,880
Thank you for supporting podcasting 2.0. Um,

2621
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:09,980
really you're supporting the entire infrastructure and for

2622
01:36:09,980 --> 01:36:10,800
a long time.

2623
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,180
So we'll be good for that.

2624
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:13,800
When that, when the next five years hits,

2625
01:36:13,820 --> 01:36:16,820
when everything becomes successful, it'll still be running.

2626
01:36:16,940 --> 01:36:18,460
We'll see who donates then.

2627
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:22,400
It won't be Jack Muller's.

2628
01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:24,300
No, it won't be.

2629
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:24,940
It won't be.

2630
01:36:25,340 --> 01:36:26,020
That's okay.

2631
01:36:26,140 --> 01:36:27,800
We all have our role to play on

2632
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:28,760
this grand stage.

2633
01:36:29,020 --> 01:36:31,020
And with that, I want to thank you,

2634
01:36:31,300 --> 01:36:33,580
brother, Dave, uh, what you're doing this weekend.

2635
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:33,940
Yeah.

2636
01:36:33,940 --> 01:36:36,820
Hanging out, having a good time this weekend.

2637
01:36:36,820 --> 01:36:40,640
We'll probably do some rock climbing and, and,

2638
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:42,620
uh, housework.

2639
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,680
Well, you should go grab the brand new,

2640
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,000
uh, beta of the Godcaster app on Android.

2641
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:49,180
Your mind will be blown.

2642
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:50,400
Yes.

2643
01:36:50,440 --> 01:36:51,840
I've got my Android phone here.

2644
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,840
I may after, after work, prepare for your

2645
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:55,740
head to explode.

2646
01:36:57,440 --> 01:36:58,760
I'll get, I'll get napkins.

2647
01:36:59,180 --> 01:36:59,520
All right.

2648
01:37:00,020 --> 01:37:00,420
Boardroom.

2649
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:01,660
Thank you very much for being here.

2650
01:37:01,740 --> 01:37:03,080
We look forward to seeing y'all again

2651
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,700
next week as we return once again, with

2652
01:37:05,700 --> 01:37:24,100
podcasting 2.0. You

2653
01:37:24,100 --> 01:37:28,480
have been listening to podcasting 2.0. Visit

2654
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:31,640
podcastindex.org for more information.

2655
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,460
Go podcasting.

2656
01:37:34,440 --> 01:37:35,600
Oh, he's full of juice.