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podcasting 2.0 for November
2022, episode 111 pod Mali.

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Well, hello, everybody, welcome
once again to the weekly board

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meeting of podcasting to point
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going on. It's here that we find
out what's going on. It's why

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happening in podcast index.org,
the namespace, lots of

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development going on with
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everything happening that's
being discussed at podcast index

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dot social. I'm Adam curry here
in the heart of the Texas Hill

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Country and in Alabama. Ladies,
he's the dream of the Macedon

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scene. Say hello to my friend on
the other end, Mr. Dave Jones.

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I'm just gonna go ahead and take
a victory lap on this Mastodon

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thing.

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Yeah, oh, it's sticking it
sticking? You know what? You

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know who? Stan a sticky, huh.
You know, you're gonna rub it my

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fix?

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Okay. Yeah.

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You know, it's been fascinating
to watch. It's journalists who

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are sticking? Yeah, they're
setting up their own instances.

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And they're doing all kinds of
you know, and they're trying to

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figure it out. And, and you
listen, you listen to

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journalists speaking on
different podcasts. And there's,

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there's definitely a lot who are
saying, well, it's really

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unusable. You have no algorithm,
you can trick the algorithm to

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get everybody to see my stuff.
So it's useless. It's useless,

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I'll tell you. But then you see
the end. This is very much like

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my one of my favorite news
podcast is called the news

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agents thing. We've talked about
it and never heard it. Oh, it's

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a bunch of British journalists
who are well known journalists

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who have interviewed the the big
of the big ones of the earth.

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And they kind of discuss the
news. With some, maybe they have

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a little snippet of an interview
or some reporting from one of

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their people on the scene or
whatever. But it's basically

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just a conference call. And they
talk about what's happening from

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their perspective. So it's kind
of the stuff that you would

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never hear about, it's happening
in the newsroom. And it's

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because it's British politics.
It's fun, because, you know, I

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have a lot to learn this
American politics with British

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news, I should say. And so
that's kind of the vibe that I'm

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getting from these journalists
groups who are setting up their

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own instances to learn from the
journos jet journo dot host, I

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think is one and now it's the
typical schmucks who are driving

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it, you know, all props to Jeff
Jarvis. Jeff Jarvis. Yes, he's

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me. He's, he's he is, if you
said show me a schmuck is Jeff.

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Jeff Jarvis. I don't know why I
don't know the man personally.

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They have been on the show with
him on a panel with him once.

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What is the what is the
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schmuck? Like, what does that
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real like a real defined
definition that goes back in

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time?

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Let's see schmuck definition.
Here we go. A foolish or

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contemptible person is the first
definition that pops up.

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Like it's Hebrew in origin, like
it's Oh, yeah. Oh,

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no. yudishe? I would say, yes,
it is. Yes, it is. 100% Do not

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be the poor schmuck who runs out
of gas and is stranded when a

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natural disaster is about to
hit. Wow, that's a pretty clear

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definition right there. Or be
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's

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not what you want to be. And
don't, don't be the poor schmuck

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who runs his own Mastodon
server, with only like 10 gigs

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of disk space.

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Well, everyone's going to learn
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we've been running on Mastodon
hosts since day one. And, you

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know, we I upgraded to bigger
services and searchable because,

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you know, of course, you got to
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some disk space. But we've got a
nice little community, what do

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we have maybe 1000 people on?
How many people do we have on

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the instant

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more than that? Oh, really? It's
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like, we lose like 1200 I think,

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okay. You get much bigger, like,
no agenda is capped at 10,000.

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And it's real work for Matt, you
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keeping that thing running,
making sure there's no, you

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know, the vulnerabilities
because of course, there are

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vulnerabilities always.

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Yeah, it's a full time job
shoved into a part time job.

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Pretty much. Yeah. Into a hobby,

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more or less. Yeah. But yeah,
and the fun thing is to watch

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people like Dave Weiner go, does
all this were like, oh, yeah,

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has been around for 10 years.

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Yes. Welcome to Yeah, welcome to
2012. I can't find that there's

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a page on here somewhere that
shows what how many users you

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can, and I

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can Yeah, I'm looking forward to
I see What is this?

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I tried slash about that active

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use about 301 active users
today. Today.

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Oh, that's active just today
just like, posted or something.

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I don't know. I think it was
like 1200. But let me how much

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do we pay for this? What's the
what's the cost right now? I

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think podcast index dot social.

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I think it's 20 bucks. 29 bucks.

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Is that it? Much?

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I think so. I mean, I'd have I'd
have to check my bill.

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The bill and it's like, 150.
Well, here

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pricing. Let's take a look at
what they got. Now, man, where

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we have the Yeah, we have the
star level because you have moon

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planet and star. Now, we started
with the nine month $9 per month

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planet. Although I think then it
was five euros. Inflation

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people? Yeah, the $19 a month
star, which gives you medium

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Federation capacity, whatever
that means. Processing. Oh,

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eight processing threads. Okay.
10 gigabytes of database, 100

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gigabytes of media storage. And
100 active users. Oops. 100. Oh,

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no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I'm
sorry. No, no, no, no, we're

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here. Here we are. We're in the
galaxy. I'm sorry. No,

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constellation galaxy. That's the
highest. That's at nine a month.

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So we're at 90 a month.

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We're at 90 bucks a month shoot.
That's on my my credit card.

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Yes. I have a sneaking suspicion
that you have not been paying

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attention to this. This is based
on prior experience with how

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Adam looks. Which is basically
you don't until it gets

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shockingly high. And then you're
like, Oh, crap.

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That's right. Well, that's
usually the AWS Bill was like,

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wow, it's like $1,000. Dave,
what can we do about this?

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Yeah, it's like, it's like, oh,
it's been it's been five or 600

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for a few months. And now it's
just getting ridiculous. I'm

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like, Whoa, 500 is already
ridiculous, brother.

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This is why I'm not a
billionaire.

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That was my entire reason for
bringing that bringing this make

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you go and check your credit
card stuff. But you know, there

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really needs to be some sort of
light. There needs to be an in

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between. There needs to be
something that is is what's that

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thing you showed me last week
was pinafore that needs to be

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something that's that's just
that's just the interface. Yeah,

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yeah, there needs to be
something between pinafore and

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Mastodon and like that, where
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something very simplistic like a
radio to or a freedom controller

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type thing. And you just be just
you just put in a, an activity

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pub, your module to it,

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you make it look like Macedon on
the on the front end like the

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pinafore,

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something like that. Yeah. Yeah.
Because then you don't you don't

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worry about like,

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cross and it's called cross app
comments. I'm awaiting for two

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years.

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Comments across app comments
done right. Could turn every

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podcast app into a mastodon, or
TC MainActivity pub client app?

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Absolutely. I've been I've been
waiting for it. I mean, I'm

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growing cobwebs here

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yeah, that's that makes me Well,
that brings up a little item

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that I have on my legal pad
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Oh, yeah. Which is yellow legal
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Oh, yes. Yellow. Can you get
only one talk? Can

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you get? Can you get the
notepads? Because I cannot get

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them? They can't get them in
yellow anymore. You know, the

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ones that I mean? It's like the
it's not the legal pad, but it's

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kind of looks like a tablet.
Yeah. Can you get those in

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yellow for me? Yeah, can you
take some some of the office?

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They're positive anymore. Do you
want to read stapler? Can you

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give me a red

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slave copier paper?

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Just now I can't get any. You
can't even get an Amazon. It's

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not.

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This one is like from the 70s.
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that's the kind of like that's
exactly the kind of like, you

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got that little margin on the
left hand side. You can write

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some doodle shit in there. And
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your liable red double line that
goes down the left hand

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beautiful thing, analog baby.

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You know, this whole Mastodon
thing makes me think and we

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discussed this briefly last
week. This idea that the people

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are now podcasters are now in
the mastodon soup, the activity

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pubs soup, without knowing that
they're in it.

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I will Wish we had cross app
comments ready? We would be

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blowing people's minds right
now. Sorry.

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Well, that's what I'm that's
that's what I'm trying to say

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is. So if you had if you're a
host, this, this is for podcast

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hosts. If your hosting company,
you could imagine immediate win

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with cross app comments by doing
a connection, an OAuth

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connection. Yeah, you're so
right into your UI, say, Oh, do

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you have a mastodon account?
Because Mastodon is popular

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enough now?

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Yeah. Looked at looked at
journos here. Yes, the girl

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there journos?

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There's one right there. If you
if you had if you had this

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interface like oh, do you have
Mastodon connect your Mastodon

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to your podcast hosting account?
Yeah. And then whenever you put

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in makeup, whenever you make a
post, it will automatically

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cross post over to Mastodon to
your account. Yeah. And suck the

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URL back in as

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a post. That's Wait, that's
another one that another journal

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got what? Got him?

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This is this. Some people may
not know that.

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But that just makes perfect, by
the way and who have you already

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threatened that they have to do
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This was the initial thrust.
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you heard our AK right people.
That's when we do have

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journalists gunfire. We have
gunfire at our disposal. If you

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go to like bullying people in
podcasting, yeah, this is highly

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effective. Wonders.

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Based on this track record this
essentially.

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Anybody are secrets?

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Yeah. Right. It's it's more it's
more like it's a combination of

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spoiling and badgering. Yes.

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Like that is a bit of the New
International lifestyle. Have

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you ever heard Dvorak excoriate
the donors? Yes.

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Which is funny, by the way, love
it. It's just like, it's like

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cats. The more you the more you
you know, abused them, the more

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they love you, this journalist
or the media, abusing them where

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they love you.

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Maybe one day we'll get rich off
of this idea, then Dave,

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nothing's worked so far. very
doubtful.

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This is the most this is on par
for all of our projects. When it

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comes to find out.

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We have only person that gets
rich by abusing journalists is

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Donald Trump. I think that's the
fan Elon Musk is giving.

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Right? Alright, so I'm sorry to
interrupt you. But yes, now's

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the time. You're absolutely it's
not is it? This relatively easy

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to do, right?

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Well, I mean, we did and freedom
with trailers has got to be

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easy. It can't be that hard.

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Yeah, that's right. Controlling
you just it's the Oh off you

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just post and boom, they're
done. And that spits back the

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URL? Yeah, of course. It spits
back the URL.

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Yep. Yep. And there's an OAuth
handshake that song and dance

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that can happen and you drop it
right just bounce it around and

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you're done. Yeah. This this is
an instant win to me yeah. What

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I would expect the will say cat
will cast upon did a different

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and went a different route they
baked activity portfolio into

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their into their into their
system but if you're like us,

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you know who you know who will
who will probably do this. Of

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course, other than Steven B
which is probably already dying

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by the time but Dobie das over
RSS blue this is this is right

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up his ride right he loads dive
into loads of stuff. Yep. So

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that puts somebody do that

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just I mean, what is so cool is
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man that that that is what's so
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think it's lost on the
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The tech journos is lost on them
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really beautiful. I am so
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this to happen but the part of
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their mind had a go I'm gonna
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whatever it was they came to
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drop off many did of course
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been listening to him like
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hit. But most people are like
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Usenet vibe.

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I don't think that is going to
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completely different. That's the
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I think it's additive. Yeah, you
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What you realize when you're on
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versus the Fed versus when
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realize that your signal to
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conversations there. Whereas, so
you but you don't necessarily

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abandon Twitter, you, you have
to go back to Twitter to get

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certain types of like news. But
then you're relieved to get to

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then close the tab in your
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But Mastodon is you get to the
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you're done. There's nothing
left to do. You can you can try

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and click the other tab or
certain point you've seen it all

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and the algos not going to spit
anything new back at you. So the

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30 and and also like there's a
there's a visualization of the

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fediverse. And you can someone
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on no agenda social, maybe it
was Matt. And you can see that

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we are definitely with no agenda
social is definitely somewhat

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separated from the larger Fetty
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blocklists. But we but are only
the universe is kind of like

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this, this ulcerous growth
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of the grow. That's malignant,
clearly, that's hanging off the

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main glob. And if you zoom in,
there's a lot going on in that

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glob. I mean, there's a lot of
stuff. When was that? I think it

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must have been? I'm pretty sure
it was. It wasn't mad at Aaron

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or I should say. Anyways, it's
yeah, you're right. I am just

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really, really surprised at how
this is picked up. And yeah,

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man, we totally need to take
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What if what would be great to
see happen, and I think this can

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happen is that you would have
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that would that would do a
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connector to an existing account
and then other hosts that would

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just go in full bore make their
make a commenting system and

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then federate that out with
activity pub. Right. There's a

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lot of hosting companies that
are Ruby based, that are Ruby on

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Rails based it's I don't know
why they're, that's, I don't

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know why that's the thing. But

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that was that was very modern
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of blogging, Twitter,
podcasting, I think what's kind

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of invoke, in fact, I remember
was the thing with VCs, you, you

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build rubies or Ruby on Rails?
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it probably probably came
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demographic, the early podcast
demographic was, you know, that

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MAC MAC oriented, and I think
there's a lot of Ruby on Rails

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connections with Mac, right?
based companies because I think

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it came out of panic and it has,
like, bus browser, Ruby on Rails

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based and Tom told me the
history of at one time, it just

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seemed very much tied to like a
whole Mac culture and, but but

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as but you know, mass like
Mastodon is a Ruby on Rails app.

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And it just seems like there's a
lot of it seems like there's a

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lot of overlap cross pollination
between activity pub, the world

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of activity pub in the world of
podcasting. And like, I see them

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as a natural as a net sort of a
natural marriage. It's just, it

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just feels right to me. And so
you could have some, some

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companies that this a or some
hosting companies that say, Oh,

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well, you know, look at all
these we get all this activity

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pub, Ruby gyms and all this code
this gets here, let's just let's

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just run with it and go straight
off. You know, that'd be great.

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I'm, of course, rejecting my own
desires here.

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I love it. Hey, go to Fetty
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Oh, then he verse does space.
Maybe we need a dot space for

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the stats

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like that. By the way, I liked
that little JSON thing that you

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spit out there. The stats thing?
Yes. Cool. So if you so you see

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the you see the cloud space
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And then

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is it all by itself? Nobody will
federate with it.

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You'll get to zoom in one click
and you'll see real up in the

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top way the top of the cloud
there's there's the little no

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agenda social is

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on an island but oh, it's
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and if you zoom in, I mean, it's
connected to a lot of stuff. But

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it's definitely is not connected
to everything. I don't know but

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only see podcasts. It's
incredible to watch this podcast

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is not worrying about social
justice something my fediverse

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Does space is something went
wrong.

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One of those helpful errors all
right is anyway. Hey, yeah, it's

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something really wonderful
happened

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that detail

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CSB. Comic Strip blogger has
been now most a lot of people

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here, met him through this
project and have learned to

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understand him. He's been around
me for since man, early days

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daily source code I don't even
remember. I mean, so we're

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talking probably more than we're
talking more than 1516 years

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long time. 17 years, maybe even
longer. And it's always been

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very adversarial. I can't help
but and he just has a we have

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met him once before. In person
in London. Yep. So we met once.

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And otherwise he's just been you
know, just kind of this always

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saying what I perceive to be
rude things, you know, calling

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me out on stuff that he thinks
is wrong. Tell me I'm full of

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shit, you know. But then. So he
really drove the adoption of the

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no agenda album artists. We do a
new piece of album art every

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single show and no agenda art
generator.com people compete to

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be chosen. And of course that'll
all of their work eventually

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might appear in the chapter
image art so it's a fantastic

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ecosystem. And we give them
credit we talked about it we

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talked about the choice on the
show and Commissioner blogger

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really drove the idea of getting
these artists into getting a get

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Alby wallet and putting their
get Alby address, you know their

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their get Alby or whatever
username I'd get allday.com into

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their profile. And so I started
actually, the last three or four

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that we've chosen already had
one, so they've gotten to 10%

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Split have no agendas, booths
and streams, and comics or

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Blogger, he was one of the last
four. And so he posted on

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podcast index dot socialist, and
it was really, really nice to

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hear this from him. And it meant
a lot to me, he says how the AC

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thumbs up emoji. Oh, now that
I'm in the value for value split

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for the latest episode, I
finally and deeply understand

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why you are so passionate about
Satoshi streaming per minute and

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other part of the for V apart
from boosts and booster grams.

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It gives the impression of
intimate connection with the

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listeners. It informs that
people actually listen to the

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podcasts and not merely
downloaded but maybe never

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listened like I do with some
podcast. It's truly astonishing.

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It's an awesome feeling.

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That's a That's a beautiful
note,

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isn't it and from him. So that's
the feeling that I tried to

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explain to people is when you
see that, and honestly if you

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use the get Alby the Saturn
stats package, you can watch

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stuff coming in live. It's
something about it. I mean, we

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we have those, you know, one
sat, transaction splits that we

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get for the index. Sometimes
I'll just sit there. I'll open

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up zap zap wallet that does a
good job. And I'll just hit on

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the recent transactions. You
just watch it flow in. Now I'm

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walking. I'm watching like micro
pieces of a penny. But it's like

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someone listened for a minute
someone listen for it. Oh,

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that's probably a boost. Oh,
that one booster gram. So when

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listened from and it's just, I
can't believe it. You're

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watching people. Listen.

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That makes sense. So it's it's a
dopamine. It's dopamine hit?

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Yes. Oh, yeah. I mean, not in
the not in the bad way. Like in

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the it's a dopamine hit. I mean,
not we that that whole idea has

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been sort of poo pooed like, oh,
that's just a dopamine hit. I

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mean, like social medias. But,
you know, I mean, it's not like,

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it's a bad thing in and of
itself. It's not objectively

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bad, to head to feel a sense of
reward and excitement for a

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thing that's happening in your
life. I mean, dopamine hit is

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not all bad. And so like when
you when you produce something,

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stick it out on the world and
then and then the little

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dopamine hits coming are coming
back to you in this in the form

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of value.

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Yeah, this is a different kind
of dopamine hit. Yeah, yeah,

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it's not because it's making you
angry or making you anxious or

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pissed off or controversial. No,
it's love. It's love.

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It is. It's love coin.

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It's MDMA. It's podcast. Pod.
Um, write this down podcast

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Molly is what it is basically

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that's that sounds like somebody
from only fans podcasts.

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Don't do this. I'm thinking
title. I don't know about you.

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Like as Molly. I don't. That's
yeah, no, I think I think that's

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the waiting. I think that's a
good it's what it is does

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associate that's that's one of
those great uses where you see

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technology making your life
actually better and not just

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feeling the outrage machine

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just making you happy just when
you see it. Even people

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that write that write you even
people that are ugly to you in a

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booster gram still makes you
happy.

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I know. And you can and I love
giving you know James and Sam

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and all kinds and Todd love
giving them shit and sending the

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money for it. Hey, let me give
you some shit. Here's 25,000

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Satoshis talk smack at you.

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Yeah, no, it's it's a lovely
things. But that. Speaking of

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well lately, on CSB this this
note also firmly confirms my

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suspicion is CSP has a much
better or command of the English

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language than he likes to
pretend that he does.

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May have been correcting some of
his English on the fly.

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Oh, okay, I got you. All right.

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Now he's the real deal, man.
He's the he's the that's it. He

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is what he is. He's the real
deal. I just want I'm sorry.

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No, no, no, by all means.

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Well, I had a kind of a weird
thing happened that feels like a

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bug, but I'm not sure. But I
want to make mention of it for

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the Opie three community. Are
you down with Opie three

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community? I love following the
conversations. I've no interest

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whatsoever in the results
personally. But I do love. Well,

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that's not true. I love learning
about you know how this project

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is basically kind of forcing
people to take a look at the

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referral agents make sure that
everything is set properly. So

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we're getting better counts, I
think it may be shaking up some

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players in the industry who may
or may not want to implement

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this in their own software. Who
knows, you know, other

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interesting things that are
taking place. And here's

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something that happened. And I
don't know exactly where the

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problem is, but it may be
something that op three could

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should be aware of. And that is
the last no agenda show I

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published. Everything was fine.
And then I was alerted to the

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fact that I had not put the ID
three tags into the mp3 file,

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which I typically do. And mainly
the main thing being the image

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if you don't make the image and
there's a number of podcast

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players out there, which will
not show the image, even though

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it's in the channel, RSS
channel, feed all that stuff.

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It's just that just happens to
so of course, alright. Oh, okay,

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that's kind of dumb, too. I
wanted in there. So I go back, I

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bake it properly. Now I've
learned that the best way to do

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it is to delete and then upload
the new one. And that goes

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pretty quickly.

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And then that breaks the cache.

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That breaks the cache and it's
just never been a problem. And

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I've had to I've had to replace
files. It's never been a

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problem. Google podcasts shit
the bed?

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Oh, no. Well, at least that's
only 2% of the

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more than I thought more more
people than I thought it more

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than dog catcher, but not much.
But like say double dog catcher.

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00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:58,770
A double document your double
the dogs that maybe see Yeah,

441
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,770
maybe 1213 People immediately
ask what's wrong with you? Why

442
00:29:04,770 --> 00:29:07,920
are you using Google podcasts?
Yes, stop. Just stop it. Stop

443
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:15,990
it. Yeah. Why would you do like
being old fashioned? Yeah. But I

444
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:19,320
even had some some very kind
listeners, delete the app and

445
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,870
reinstall it. And still it
wouldn't work. Even though if

446
00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:26,490
you went to if you went to
Google podcasts on the web, it

447
00:29:26,490 --> 00:29:30,210
was there fine and played fine.
So there's something with the

448
00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:34,110
Google app. And I don't know. I
don't know if the Google

449
00:29:34,110 --> 00:29:38,730
podcasts app. Yes. I wonder if
they're, if they're caching

450
00:29:38,730 --> 00:29:40,770
something somewhere, because
that's kind of what it felt like

451
00:29:40,770 --> 00:29:43,140
to me. And I don't understand
and that could be in the app,

452
00:29:43,140 --> 00:29:46,200
but if it's at some, some head
end or something that could

453
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,800
affect the numbers people are
looking at.

454
00:29:50,850 --> 00:29:54,300
I can't imagine what that would
actually be. So when you

455
00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:59,730
replaced the enclosure, it had a
different file name, file name.

456
00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:05,430
Same for I can't imagine what
that could possibly be Google

457
00:30:06,330 --> 00:30:09,810
unless, and the only thing I can

458
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,930
write, but just I just thought
I'd throw it out there.

459
00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:17,610
Now now that you know these
things like things like this

460
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,750
oddities like this bother me
mentally, the only thing I could

461
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:25,860
imagine is that somehow they're
doing some sort of pass. They're

462
00:30:25,860 --> 00:30:32,310
doing pass through. And but
they're cashing in then they see

463
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:38,940
there's some sort of like, cash
patch mismatch. I don't know

464
00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:41,250
what this is. That's weird.
Yeah.

465
00:30:41,790 --> 00:30:48,090
Well, only Google or maybe now I
think was Google. Is there any

466
00:30:48,090 --> 00:30:53,520
is any other? Do they have any
device? For some? I think there

467
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,890
was some other reporting. It's
just like, oh, that's a Google.

468
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,930
They're probably using Google
system. I don't know. It was

469
00:30:57,930 --> 00:30:58,260
weird.

470
00:30:58,350 --> 00:31:05,040
Yeah. Well, that'd be one thing
on op three front. I was

471
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,280
listening to Todd and Rosli said
in the media show,

472
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,280
was that a new one? Is that the
one they did last week? It

473
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,780
looked like it had a new name,
title.

474
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:16,620
It was a new and it threw me off
to I think the title was like

475
00:31:16,650 --> 00:31:17,940
almost the same or something.

476
00:31:18,330 --> 00:31:22,170
Not listened to it because I
thought it was somehow something

477
00:31:22,170 --> 00:31:25,770
had messed up. I know, Mitch, I
did two sync problems with POD

478
00:31:25,770 --> 00:31:30,780
verse and thought, oh, maybe
whatever. Oh, man, go God. God

479
00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:34,350
said sad marketing, you know
better than this, which is

480
00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:38,130
You're better than this. Todd.
You scared me away from a brand

481
00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:41,700
new episode, and I was looking
at I listened to pivot instead.

482
00:31:43,950 --> 00:31:48,570
Okay, yes. Here's the problem.
Here's the problem. Last week

483
00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:52,620
show the title was podcast ad
rep companies in big trouble.

484
00:31:53,130 --> 00:31:56,910
The title of this week's show is
lazy podcast advertising. Rip.

485
00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:01,140
Okay, that's so that's what
threw me off. It had

486
00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:06,060
linguistic foo in there that was
so similar. Yeah. That it threw

487
00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:08,130
me off too, because I almost
deleted it, too. I thought it

488
00:32:08,130 --> 00:32:10,620
was a rehash. I thought it came
back from the dead.

489
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,330
Okay, so when was that he good?

490
00:32:12,989 --> 00:32:17,939
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's good. So
the one you know, number one

491
00:32:17,939 --> 00:32:21,509
here is his liquidity was
drained. So we you you opened a

492
00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:22,679
new channel to him, we got the

493
00:32:22,979 --> 00:32:27,419
open up, I think, a 2 million
Satoshi channel. And me and like

494
00:32:27,569 --> 00:32:30,299
10 minutes later, hey, I'm going
over to get lb

495
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:39,180
saw that? Great. Because I was
trying to boost him he was he

496
00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:42,000
was on the show. He was like,
man, we must not be having a

497
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,130
good show. Because nobody's
boosting this. And like, we

498
00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:48,540
can't, we can't boost you. We're
out of money. Sure. out of out

499
00:32:48,540 --> 00:32:52,560
of liquidity. Yeah. But anyway,
so no, it was a good show. But

500
00:32:52,590 --> 00:32:55,050
one thing that he talked about
on there talked about a lot of

501
00:32:55,050 --> 00:33:00,300
things that interested me. But
one thing is, you know, I've

502
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:05,460
been trying to say for the last
few weeks, that what I would

503
00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:10,590
really love is an open is that
is the podcast hosting companies

504
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:17,610
to make some, some sort of data
public, of trending shows, or,

505
00:33:18,210 --> 00:33:24,840
like, show lists public, so that
we don't have to depend on the

506
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:32,970
apps themselves to release
trending and whatever you call

507
00:33:32,970 --> 00:33:36,300
it, like trending data, or top
chart charts and things like

508
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:41,640
that, like I want, I would like
to have recommendations of shows

509
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,700
that are that are coming from
the hosting companies

510
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:49,230
themselves. Like, it doesn't
even have to be trending or top

511
00:33:49,290 --> 00:33:54,000
or quote unquote, top shows. It
could just be, here's a list of

512
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,080
shows that we we want the world
to listen to. It could be just

513
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,720
whatever criteria that the
hosting companies want. I just

514
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,190
want lists, I want lists of
shows that can be they can be

515
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:09,570
treated as recommendations, so
that we can build open,

516
00:34:10,350 --> 00:34:15,720
decentralized recommendation
points that are not based on

517
00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:22,770
Apple, Spotify, Google, these
big huge companies. I think the

518
00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:25,740
hosting companies have this
data. And I would like them to

519
00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:30,300
give it to the community in some
way so that we can the pie. The

520
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:33,270
podcast industry should build
the solutions not

521
00:34:33,390 --> 00:34:38,820
right breach, but companies but
so the key word here is what is

522
00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:43,680
trending. What I mean you just
want list, but what data and I

523
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,440
can already tell you that this
needs a steering group, it needs

524
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,180
a nonprofit it needs it through
your mind need a C four just for

525
00:34:51,180 --> 00:34:56,190
the lobbying and Congress to
understand what exactly the data

526
00:34:56,190 --> 00:34:59,970
is. How's it compiled? Those are
those guys jackin their own show

527
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,120
Oh, I can go on like this for
ever on this.

528
00:35:03,179 --> 00:35:08,609
I know I got a guy that can do a
990. For us. We get no, I don't

529
00:35:08,609 --> 00:35:15,989
even kit. Let me I want to be
really clear. I don't I

530
00:35:15,989 --> 00:35:22,769
personally do not care if it's a
chart for top shows or trending.

531
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:30,479
None of that bothers me. I just
want lists of shows. So, to me a

532
00:35:30,479 --> 00:35:37,019
list could coming from blueberry
would be something like, here is

533
00:35:37,649 --> 00:35:45,059
400 Great blueberry shows
period. That no no metrics? No,

534
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,249
no. Nothing like, here is the
400 top blueberry shows by

535
00:35:50,249 --> 00:35:55,379
download, like, I don't care
about that. It's just actually

536
00:35:55,379 --> 00:35:58,379
the more ambiguous the metrics,
the better, because you're just

537
00:35:58,379 --> 00:36:01,229
like, they can be a rotating
list where you say,

538
00:36:02,579 --> 00:36:05,609
but it reflects the the hosting
companies preference, whatever

539
00:36:05,609 --> 00:36:06,299
that is.

540
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,010
Yes, it reflects, it reflects
some sort of quality signal

541
00:36:11,010 --> 00:36:14,610
within the hosting company where
they say, the here's a batch of

542
00:36:14,610 --> 00:36:20,400
shows that we consider to be
really good quality shows that

543
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,350
are on our network. And that's
the only that's the only signal

544
00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:27,780
you get from them. You they
don't tell you what the metric

545
00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:30,870
is the the shows could have 12
listeners.

546
00:36:30,990 --> 00:36:35,400
Okay, I gotcha, that will get we
will circle back to that.

547
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:41,340
But okay. But here's what Todd
was talking about he he was

548
00:36:41,340 --> 00:36:45,090
saying that specifically, they
do not want to release their top

549
00:36:45,090 --> 00:36:50,250
shows, like a list of here's our
top shows by download. Because

550
00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:53,820
his words were immediately
everybody was start poaching his

551
00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:54,510
shows.

552
00:36:56,340 --> 00:37:01,290
But what to what end? Okay, I
just got to go back to first

553
00:37:01,290 --> 00:37:07,380
principles. What what is the
point to what to be able to say,

554
00:37:07,530 --> 00:37:10,830
here's a list of cool podcasts
to listen to, how can that be

555
00:37:10,830 --> 00:37:14,190
relevant to me, I hear about
cool podcasts from you on

556
00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:17,520
signal, or I read about
something or I pick something

557
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,290
up. That's this, it's mythical
to me, this this podcast

558
00:37:22,290 --> 00:37:24,870
discovery and you know, the best
and

559
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:30,149
this is not about it. This is
where this conversation goes

560
00:37:30,149 --> 00:37:34,349
always inside. It's, I don't
want to be more clear. It's not

561
00:37:34,379 --> 00:37:39,839
really about discovery. This is
more. So we imagine this

562
00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:42,329
scenario. And this is really
more of a programming thing.

563
00:37:43,439 --> 00:37:46,109
Imagine this, here's the
scenario that we hit during

564
00:37:46,109 --> 00:37:49,199
freedom controller build,
somebody installs a freedom

565
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:52,769
controller, they set up a new
account, and there's going to be

566
00:37:52,769 --> 00:37:57,149
a news River in there a river of
New Thought news items. Where

567
00:37:57,149 --> 00:38:00,629
are those feeds coming from,
there's got to be a default

568
00:38:00,629 --> 00:38:04,049
list, there's got to be
something to start with, like a

569
00:38:04,049 --> 00:38:09,329
seed, a seed OPML, where all
these feeds are going to come

570
00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:13,289
from? Well, you know, we had to
build that. And so we built in,

571
00:38:13,499 --> 00:38:16,739
there's a default list that you
start with of about 50 feeds.

572
00:38:17,459 --> 00:38:22,289
That's what I want, I want a
default place to start. Because

573
00:38:22,289 --> 00:38:24,989
every podcast app, no matter
what it looks like, is going to

574
00:38:24,989 --> 00:38:29,969
have some Bootstrap, that it has
to have, where when you go, when

575
00:38:29,969 --> 00:38:33,209
you open the apps, you don't
just get a blank screen, it

576
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:39,479
always comes back to share your
OPML always says this. And that,

577
00:38:39,689 --> 00:38:43,049
may I make a suggestion, that's
where you want to get your list

578
00:38:43,049 --> 00:38:47,939
from. You want to get your list
from individuals, and that can

579
00:38:47,939 --> 00:38:56,879
be aggregated to every single
thing that works. Okay. So I

580
00:38:56,879 --> 00:38:59,489
understand what you're saying
was, I'm not quite sure why but

581
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,819
here's what I here's what I see
a benefit of is that share my

582
00:39:02,819 --> 00:39:05,249
OPML I think is what is
basically it's your subscription

583
00:39:05,249 --> 00:39:09,449
list. And, and I find this to be
very valuable. And I would love

584
00:39:09,449 --> 00:39:11,699
and you know, this used to be a
thing, it's like you used to

585
00:39:11,699 --> 00:39:14,459
have a blog role and be on the
side of your page. And these are

586
00:39:14,459 --> 00:39:19,859
the things that I'm the blog's
that I'm subscribed to. But your

587
00:39:19,859 --> 00:39:22,829
actual feed subscription lists
which people typically use to

588
00:39:22,829 --> 00:39:27,089
export to go from one app to the
other, that's actually valuable

589
00:39:27,089 --> 00:39:31,139
information that can be shared
and aggregated. What you're

590
00:39:31,139 --> 00:39:35,999
proposing when it comes from,
for example, a hosting company

591
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,479
well, I can tell you right now,
and I'm I'm a pretty honest guy,

592
00:39:39,479 --> 00:39:43,319
but at a certain point, I think
some marketing might show up

593
00:39:43,319 --> 00:39:46,739
that would say, hey, we can even
get you noticed, you know,

594
00:39:46,739 --> 00:39:49,619
because yeah, put you up put you
on the list and put you in the

595
00:39:49,619 --> 00:39:53,129
rotation. So you know, that
creeps in I've worked at MTV, so

596
00:39:53,129 --> 00:39:56,069
I know exactly how this works.
It's not people aren't evil, but

597
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:59,549
it just kind of you know it
okay, but that's okay. No, it's

598
00:39:59,579 --> 00:40:03,179
I'm not saying is not okay. But
isn't it better to get it from

599
00:40:03,179 --> 00:40:07,619
the listeners themselves and I
can identify with this is part

600
00:40:07,619 --> 00:40:10,019
of what I like, although they
haven't figured it out yet.

601
00:40:10,049 --> 00:40:13,349
Fountain is getting close to
that. Except they're, they're

602
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:16,559
matching people up with clips
and stuff like that. But it's

603
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:21,059
really like, because you and I
listen, if I were to put our

604
00:40:21,059 --> 00:40:25,079
two, we should like we should do
this, I will export my OPML and

605
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:27,239
we'll put them next to each
other. And there's going to be

606
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:33,629
some interesting overlap. And
you know, and I can learn about

607
00:40:33,629 --> 00:40:36,689
some things that I'm I Adam
curry might want to listen to

608
00:40:36,689 --> 00:40:38,699
not some just default stuff.

609
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:41,910
Oh, oh, I just had I just

610
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,290
I would like, okay.

611
00:40:45,869 --> 00:40:51,839
We, if everything ultimately
ends up being, if all good ideas

612
00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:57,029
ultimately end up being share
your opinion. time every time.

613
00:40:57,419 --> 00:41:01,529
If that just let's just start
fighting it and embrace it. So

614
00:41:02,759 --> 00:41:08,219
let's let's do this. But why
don't I put in something into

615
00:41:08,219 --> 00:41:12,989
the into the API? That's an
anonymous OPML submission.

616
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:17,009
This non cast event obviously,
moving could be

617
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,920
yes. And then we'll, we'll have
it in den the apps like pod

618
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:31,170
verse, curio caster, they can
just they can submit with their,

619
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:37,290
you know, customer client class
approval with their listener

620
00:41:37,290 --> 00:41:39,690
listening list with their
listeners approval, an

621
00:41:39,690 --> 00:41:45,210
anonymized OPML list back to the
Index dairy and then we will

622
00:41:45,210 --> 00:41:49,710
index those anonymized lists and
just make the in convert those

623
00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:53,820
lists into a public list. That's
that can be used by anybody who

624
00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:57,390
wants to have a getting started.
Here's a podcast use your

625
00:41:57,390 --> 00:41:57,870
starters.

626
00:41:57,870 --> 00:42:01,590
And now you have a public way to
circumvent the most irritating

627
00:42:01,590 --> 00:42:07,680
thing in modern user generated
content. Add like and subscribe.

628
00:42:07,710 --> 00:42:11,070
Now subscribe will actually mean
something because that subscribe

629
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:16,110
will show up publicly and we can
really see who's subscribing to

630
00:42:16,110 --> 00:42:20,430
what. Or at least what's being
subscribed to. We don't need to

631
00:42:20,430 --> 00:42:23,010
Doc's. Anybody Hold on a second.
Dave coming at you right now.

632
00:42:23,010 --> 00:42:26,220
Brother. Look at your signals.
There it is. There's Adam curry

633
00:42:26,220 --> 00:42:27,360
subscription list.

634
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,770
You just signaled it to him.
Yeah. You did that while you

635
00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:32,370
were talking?

636
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,390
Oh, you have no idea what I'm
doing here while I'm talking.

637
00:42:41,579 --> 00:42:45,239
Yeah, this all the all the apps
if I understand, right, all the

638
00:42:45,269 --> 00:42:49,709
all the 2.0 apps will get your
OPML Yeah. Okay, I'm doing

639
00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:50,760
something else here for a
second.

640
00:42:54,329 --> 00:43:00,359
Share your bone. Okay, so if all
the if all the 2.0 apps, and I

641
00:43:00,359 --> 00:43:04,139
think they all do now support
OPML export, they have that code

642
00:43:04,139 --> 00:43:07,499
in I'm already now. So they,
they should be able to do

643
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:10,560
that I need to tell you a story
about default lists, just so I

644
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,370
get it off my chest, I have to
absolve myself of this detail.

645
00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:20,310
Radio userland was the
aggregator slash blog client

646
00:43:20,310 --> 00:43:22,860
that Dave Weiner wrote. That's
how I got interested in that's

647
00:43:22,860 --> 00:43:25,440
how eventually that
collaboration led to podcasting.

648
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,580
But even before that, before,
before we started working on

649
00:43:29,580 --> 00:43:33,930
that, probably couple of years
before I don't remember, I don't

650
00:43:33,930 --> 00:43:38,370
remember the timing exactly. I
saw this this aggregator like

651
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,910
this radio user land like, wow,
I want my blog to be in that

652
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:48,870
first list of, of 20. Of 20
blogs, and I gave him $10,000 to

653
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:52,350
put my name in there as a
default. No, I think he's told

654
00:43:52,350 --> 00:43:56,130
me that I was on I was on the
default feeds list in a lot of

655
00:43:56,130 --> 00:43:59,880
podcast app for a long, long
time because of that it paid

656
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:06,780
off. But I'm just saying that it
still feels bad. Many, many

657
00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:10,200
decades later. It's like taking

658
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,640
wooden silver like I can

659
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,800
at what you can

660
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:21,509
eat Okay, real. It's the real
OPML lists from this is what

661
00:44:21,509 --> 00:44:21,629
from

662
00:44:21,630 --> 00:44:24,510
the user this is what I like I
think this is a very exciting

663
00:44:24,510 --> 00:44:25,020
idea.

664
00:44:25,860 --> 00:44:30,420
Yeah, you in the listeners have,
you can have that side of

665
00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:33,540
things. And then you could also
have the host side of things

666
00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:35,190
where they have their lists that
they

667
00:44:35,850 --> 00:44:39,060
put into the way but yes, we can
put it all together. I mean, but

668
00:44:39,060 --> 00:44:42,180
I just think like this, you
gotta have I would drive it from

669
00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:46,380
the listeners have have anyone
can contribute. Why not? Why

670
00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:54,090
wouldn't I mean? Why wouldn't an
app itself so here's just your

671
00:44:54,090 --> 00:44:57,090
right we can have what is share
my OPML that's, that's the

672
00:44:57,090 --> 00:45:00,210
bottom line doesn't matter who
you are, what type of entity You

673
00:45:00,210 --> 00:45:03,840
are as long as we can all share
it and then we can aggregate it

674
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,710
and come up with some fun stats
or, Hey, we got we got a lot of

675
00:45:07,710 --> 00:45:13,710
people, we just need to have the
data. I'm sure people like, you

676
00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:19,230
know, there's some AI MSL KYC
AML people out there who will do

677
00:45:19,230 --> 00:45:21,660
something really cool with it
and come up with some, some cool

678
00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:24,210
charts and graphs and maybe
recommendation engines. I

679
00:45:24,209 --> 00:45:27,809
don't know. Yeah, that's this is
this one. But it's a machine

680
00:45:27,809 --> 00:45:30,539
readable. I thank you for saying
it. Let's not let's stop

681
00:45:30,539 --> 00:45:31,919
fighting the joke.

682
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:37,260
Just embrace embrace this world
embrace this brave new world of

683
00:45:37,260 --> 00:45:40,890
hope in this brave new world of
OPML. That's 25 years ago.

684
00:45:40,949 --> 00:45:42,959
Oh my goodness. That

685
00:45:43,590 --> 00:45:49,950
this, this old professor of mine
and took took a classroom called

686
00:45:49,950 --> 00:45:55,110
extraterrestrial life. It was in
in college, one of the funniest

687
00:45:55,230 --> 00:45:59,760
classes I've ever had. And he he
made the statement that all you

688
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,370
know, all the best scientists
eventually become

689
00:46:02,370 --> 00:46:05,670
astrophysicist. They eventually
turn their turn their focus to

690
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:10,230
space. And yeah, all the best
ideas are always eventually

691
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:13,320
become share your OPML so let's
just do it. Let's just go that

692
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:13,620
way.

693
00:46:13,649 --> 00:46:18,389
Well, and let's just be careful
here. We're doing cuz you're

694
00:46:18,389 --> 00:46:25,289
right. All things. Just the tip,
Dave, let's be careful. It's not

695
00:46:25,319 --> 00:46:29,429
not go all the way. This is
easy, does it? What was the

696
00:46:29,429 --> 00:46:34,799
beauty of Napster? Was it just
that you could search for

697
00:46:34,799 --> 00:46:38,279
something and download it? Or
was it? Hey, I'm downloading

698
00:46:38,279 --> 00:46:41,879
this thing. And let me see what
else this dude has on his drive.

699
00:46:42,779 --> 00:46:48,119
That exploration was part of the
beauty of it. You know what I'm

700
00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:48,689
saying?

701
00:46:49,590 --> 00:46:52,470
Yeah, because you can see the
whole collection and not just

702
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:53,490
the thing you want it.

703
00:46:53,550 --> 00:46:57,810
It's like I would love to have
access to now I'm gonna get

704
00:46:57,810 --> 00:47:01,620
fancy here because I would love
to have a true OPML file and

705
00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:06,900
have it foldable by whatever.
Like an outline. I think James

706
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:09,390
Cleveland's OPML will be pretty
interesting to look at.

707
00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:16,769
Your This is crazy. This is
crazy talk. You want actual

708
00:47:16,799 --> 00:47:18,209
valid OPML

709
00:47:20,190 --> 00:47:23,670
I know. I'm sorry. Instead of
just a subscription list you and

710
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:27,480
I have you haven't right valid
OPML but Okay, what else? Yeah,

711
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:30,840
exactly. Yes. That's the crazy
talk. I'm talking about

712
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:35,099
the only person the only person
younger than then 50 Besides us

713
00:47:35,099 --> 00:47:38,219
that cares about valid opium
mill is Christopher ICs.

714
00:47:38,249 --> 00:47:41,309
Right well he right now he's
like well, he can't believe his

715
00:47:41,309 --> 00:47:45,929
luck. He by the way he he is
share my OPML

716
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:48,629
this what is his name? That's
his middle name is share

717
00:47:48,629 --> 00:47:49,169
European.

718
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,919
I just does he have an API to
his stuff? Because he's got a

719
00:47:52,919 --> 00:47:54,869
lot of stuff going on and OPML

720
00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:58,470
I don't know he's runs like a
runs like a rack of like 20 year

721
00:47:58,470 --> 00:48:01,350
old servers in his garage
differ.

722
00:48:01,349 --> 00:48:03,779
This is up your alley, brother.
This is the stuff you know

723
00:48:03,779 --> 00:48:08,939
about. That, I guess they call
this a cool idea. I like it.

724
00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:14,880
So on the well, quick update on
pod ping dot cloud.

725
00:48:14,909 --> 00:48:19,619
Yes. This seems to I'll be
honest. It's given me a little

726
00:48:19,619 --> 00:48:25,259
bit of a reliability issue.
Feelings anxiety. No. Well, I

727
00:48:25,259 --> 00:48:27,149
had a misfire with no agenda.

728
00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:31,410
How did that Oh, I don't know.
So Mr. Id three tags. So head

729
00:48:31,410 --> 00:48:33,090
on. May have been you.

730
00:48:33,539 --> 00:48:39,179
Wow. Thanks. IT support. How you
help everyone at the firm day.

731
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:44,249
First thing you do is blame the
user? Of course. It's never my

732
00:48:44,249 --> 00:48:44,519
fault.

733
00:48:46,289 --> 00:48:48,239
Check the caps lock you Dumbo

734
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,050
Castle hook. Yeah, it's a
problem between the keyboard and

735
00:48:52,050 --> 00:48:57,210
the brain in the brain. But I
don't know I don't I don't think

736
00:48:57,420 --> 00:49:00,780
is there a reliability issue
with puffy? No cloud on it?

737
00:49:00,780 --> 00:49:02,040
Well, okay. Okay. To me.

738
00:49:02,429 --> 00:49:06,449
Todd hasn't successfully done a
live pod ping in his life. That

739
00:49:06,449 --> 00:49:12,029
mine mine failed yesterday.
What's going on? And all I see

740
00:49:12,029 --> 00:49:16,679
is Brian of London going Yeah,
look, I've got to 8000 things

741
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:20,819
going on and and Facebook. I
can't tell you why. How rich I'm

742
00:49:20,819 --> 00:49:23,489
going to be off of them. And
then Dave comes in and goes,

743
00:49:23,909 --> 00:49:28,709
well, this one broke and the AAA
dot two and the BB BB is running

744
00:49:28,709 --> 00:49:32,789
fine. But meanwhile, Todd has
Ivan. Here's what's happening.

745
00:49:33,659 --> 00:49:38,159
Todd is trying to reach me with
his live pod ping. And I'm not

746
00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:41,039
getting them so I'm missing the
show. And not only that, but he

747
00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:45,899
does a dumb title and then I
missed the show. You're breaking

748
00:49:45,899 --> 00:49:48,719
up our relationship with this
pod ping issues

749
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:52,050
he's trying to reach is a long
distance relationship and I'm

750
00:49:52,050 --> 00:49:53,310
interfering with this.

751
00:49:53,610 --> 00:49:57,120
It's like a channel it's like a
lightning channel being down

752
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,940
when the when the connection is
broken. You feel that

753
00:50:00,750 --> 00:50:10,380
I cannot. I cannot explain why
Todd cannot send a left HUD. No,

754
00:50:10,830 --> 00:50:15,090
I don't know what's wrong with
this, but I do. But, but I know

755
00:50:15,090 --> 00:50:17,820
what the solution. I don't know
what the problem is. But I do

756
00:50:17,820 --> 00:50:19,770
know what the solution is. Now,
for

757
00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:23,160
instance, oh, no, I'm sorry. We
did get a live ping for

758
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,740
podcasting two point. Okay, that
did work. Yeah, yeah. And what I

759
00:50:25,740 --> 00:50:28,380
see right here on my phone,
what's, what's the solution?

760
00:50:28,770 --> 00:50:35,100
The solution is the next version
of pod pain dot cloud, which we

761
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,880
are working to get, because once
once we get lot of reason code

762
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,050
support in piping dot cloud,
then then we don't have to rely

763
00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:47,280
on these alternate solutions.
People can just send what

764
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,970
they're used to. They can just
send there's their thing.

765
00:50:50,970 --> 00:50:53,610
They're paying to pop into a
cloud with a lot of reason code.

766
00:50:53,610 --> 00:50:57,540
And, you know, and all these
other hacky side solutions, have

767
00:50:57,570 --> 00:51:02,880
they could they go away? Right.
So I think that's really

768
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,390
ultimately the fix. And we're
getting we're getting there we

769
00:51:07,110 --> 00:51:11,190
we've got the back end and front
end talking to each other now.

770
00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:21,360
And thank you to thank you to
Alex for rescuing me from my via

771
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,040
from trying to take figure out
how to take this protocol buffer

772
00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:33,270
and send it over the socket. In
a way, it was driving me crazy.

773
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:36,240
I'm like, I know, this is it, I
know, this is the thing that I

774
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:39,930
got to sin, and it just would
not work. And so he looked at

775
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:44,070
any in, he was like, oh, you
can't send this in pieces, it's

776
00:51:44,070 --> 00:51:46,440
got to be, it's got to be all
you got to send the whole buffer

777
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,100
at once. Like, oh, for me, I was
beating my head against the

778
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:53,430
wall. And then he also found
that I was not wrapping it in

779
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:56,100
the correct type. So anyway, he
was able to spot some put fresh

780
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:58,350
eyes on his spot what I was
doing wrong. So we got that

781
00:51:58,350 --> 00:52:02,790
working. Now it's crashing, on
the on the back end on on the

782
00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:07,380
hive writer. So the ultimate. So
we're trying to do this in a way

783
00:52:07,380 --> 00:52:09,900
that's modular as well, because
ultimately, we want to have more

784
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:13,290
than just the hive writer, we
want to be able to have other

785
00:52:13,290 --> 00:52:17,250
back end writers where this
where you send a pod pain to

786
00:52:17,250 --> 00:52:19,950
piping dot cloud, it gets
written to hive, it gets written

787
00:52:19,950 --> 00:52:24,450
to IPFS, Pub Sub, whatever, you
know, all it can blast out into

788
00:52:24,450 --> 00:52:28,950
a whole bunch of different
backends as appropriate, okay.

789
00:52:29,730 --> 00:52:32,640
And so that's we're sort of
trying to solve all these things

790
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:38,130
at once. With by by designing
the correct architecture up

791
00:52:38,130 --> 00:52:41,370
front. And correct architecture.
Is this one too many socket?

792
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,540
Yes. You're doing this in your
spare time as Alex as is Brian.

793
00:52:46,110 --> 00:52:48,510
Yeah, yeah. And I love you guys
for this.

794
00:52:48,810 --> 00:52:51,810
Getting close. It's getting
close to the holidays is made

795
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:59,490
things hard. That's what she
said. It's so

796
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,610
I'm sorry, I'm real punchy. We
started an hour later, Dave. I

797
00:53:02,610 --> 00:53:04,260
mean, it's your fault.
Basically. It's

798
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:07,080
too I blame retro you had way
too much.

799
00:53:08,489 --> 00:53:11,879
This problem is it's not me.
It's the dirty the dirty chat

800
00:53:11,879 --> 00:53:13,499
room. Oh,

801
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:14,250
they get you fired. I

802
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:19,470
read your quote in the chat room
and you'll understand. Okay.

803
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:31,259
Yes, yes. Yes, of course. Of
course. As you guys.

804
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,830
They baited me Good job, boys.
You got

805
00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:39,510
this. See this is this is what I
do. I do double entendre Yes.

806
00:53:39,540 --> 00:53:40,590
Without realizing it

807
00:53:40,619 --> 00:53:43,559
does actually trigger me through
the chat room. You're so

808
00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:44,189
brilliant.

809
00:53:44,550 --> 00:53:52,560
So my my my most famous example
of accidental double entendre is

810
00:53:52,860 --> 00:53:57,180
me and my wife went to Logan's
Roadhouse. I don't know if y'all

811
00:53:57,180 --> 00:54:00,780
have those in Texas or not. I
don't think so. It's like a

812
00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:02,400
chain steakhouse place.

813
00:54:03,809 --> 00:54:07,499
We get have a beef snob. I don't
go to chains. Yes, yes.

814
00:54:09,389 --> 00:54:12,449
But we went there for out on a
date night or something like

815
00:54:12,449 --> 00:54:17,939
that. And we have, we had a
couple of steaks and then and

816
00:54:17,939 --> 00:54:21,629
I'm so full. I can't I mean, I
can't eat anything else. But

817
00:54:21,629 --> 00:54:25,949
this waiter who's like, I don't
know. 19 years old. He comes

818
00:54:25,949 --> 00:54:30,299
over to the it comes back to the
table. He's like, Hey, can I can

819
00:54:30,299 --> 00:54:35,939
I get you awesome dessert? Well,
my dad, for my dad has always he

820
00:54:35,939 --> 00:54:39,029
has all these these sayings.
Like he's just famous for these

821
00:54:39,029 --> 00:54:45,149
sayings. And one of these, one
of his classic sayings is when

822
00:54:45,149 --> 00:54:47,879
he's really full and somebody
asks him if you want dessert.

823
00:54:49,409 --> 00:54:54,119
He's like, I'd have to rub it on
the outside. Because no room.

824
00:54:56,099 --> 00:55:01,679
So, so this 19 year old God it
says do wasn't desert. And I

825
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:06,029
said, and I flubbed it. I flub
the joke. And I said, you'd have

826
00:55:06,029 --> 00:55:14,669
to rub it on me. And so the look
on his face when I said you have

827
00:55:14,669 --> 00:55:20,249
to rub it on me, man. He went,
why does this sheet thought, oh

828
00:55:20,249 --> 00:55:22,469
my God, these are some sort of
this is some sort of creepy

829
00:55:22,469 --> 00:55:26,279
swinger couple or something. He
just he just turned around

830
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,280
and walked away. Yeah, that's
the only appropriate response.

831
00:55:30,210 --> 00:55:34,590
Then Then, when he brought me
the check, like, he was like, an

832
00:55:34,590 --> 00:55:37,440
effing ninja when he brought
this check. I mean, I don't know

833
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,470
how the check even appeared on
our table. It was like he was I

834
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:43,020
mean, it's like he didn't even
want to get close to us. That's

835
00:55:43,020 --> 00:55:48,000
too funny, man. I forgot what I
was even talking about.

836
00:55:48,030 --> 00:55:54,090
I don't know. I'm looking at
these, these stats. And I

837
00:55:54,090 --> 00:55:59,460
thought this was a great little
colab. And I heard I heard Todd

838
00:55:59,460 --> 00:56:02,850
and Rob talking about add, the
stats are not useful. We need

839
00:56:02,850 --> 00:56:06,480
them three 710 14 3060 days and
need them right away,

840
00:56:07,110 --> 00:56:08,880
though. Yeah. Todd was not happy
with my stats.

841
00:56:08,909 --> 00:56:15,569
No, he was very demanding. But
now I have a question because I

842
00:56:15,569 --> 00:56:19,139
don't quite understand it. So
I'm looking at the JSON. I got

843
00:56:19,139 --> 00:56:22,229
the feed count total episode.
And now it has two categories

844
00:56:22,229 --> 00:56:26,699
has feeds with new episodes.
Three days and new episodes.

845
00:56:26,699 --> 00:56:28,529
Three days. What is the
difference?

846
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,730
Oh, where you're looking? You're
looking at the thing I posted?

847
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:32,970
Yeah,

848
00:56:32,970 --> 00:56:36,600
the JSON? Daily counts dot JSON.

849
00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:42,120
Yeah, which is, which is
immediately not not the right

850
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,140
way to immediately a bad file
name. Because it's not a daily

851
00:56:46,140 --> 00:56:48,420
it's an hourly, so I've already
screwed that up.

852
00:56:48,570 --> 00:56:50,850
Well done. Thanks.

853
00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:54,270
I'm trying to find the link so I
can even see

854
00:56:54,809 --> 00:57:00,539
that podcast.
index.org/daily_watch Why are

855
00:57:00,539 --> 00:57:01,409
you laughing at me?

856
00:57:01,949 --> 00:57:04,739
I'm just laughing because you're
having to tell me what I did.

857
00:57:07,530 --> 00:57:09,540
It's okay. Slash

858
00:57:09,539 --> 00:57:11,729
pockets and dinners daily
underscore

859
00:57:12,510 --> 00:57:13,980
count dot JSON.

860
00:57:16,139 --> 00:57:19,799
So stupid. I don't even know my
own files. Oh, yeah. Okay, sci

861
00:57:19,799 --> 00:57:23,339
fi, total count episode count
total. 100 16 million. That's a

862
00:57:23,339 --> 00:57:28,709
lot. Feeds with new episodes.
Okay, so feeds that have posted

863
00:57:28,709 --> 00:57:30,509
a new episode within three days.

864
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:33,870
But what is new episodes, three
days? That's how

865
00:57:33,870 --> 00:57:36,600
many new episodes have been
posted in the last three days

866
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,040
total across the board.

867
00:57:38,099 --> 00:57:44,099
Oh, okay. So oh, so in the last
three days, it's pretty much

868
00:57:44,129 --> 00:57:47,849
double the amount of episodes as
there are feeds with new

869
00:57:47,849 --> 00:57:50,819
episodes, I saw that so many
feeds would have more than one

870
00:57:50,819 --> 00:57:55,529
episode. In the past three days.
Okay, that's, well, that's very

871
00:57:55,529 --> 00:57:56,159
interesting.

872
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:02,790
New episodes. So over the last
90 days, there's been 5,685,338

873
00:58:02,790 --> 00:58:03,510
New episodes,

874
00:58:03,540 --> 00:58:07,380
right? A little bit over. So I
like seven days, because that's,

875
00:58:07,410 --> 00:58:11,670
that seems to be the biggest.
That's a big number here. Just

876
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:17,220
makes sense. Because 10 days, it
drops off. So it feels like

877
00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:21,750
there's probably too, I'm just
gonna pick a number in between

878
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:26,400
this probably 250,000 podcasts
that update on a weekly basis

879
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,170
that we're aware of. Does that
make sense?

880
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:33,630
Well, it should be right there.
What's that number was? It was

881
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,830
11,000. So yeah, 77. Yeah.
That's your count right there

882
00:58:37,830 --> 00:58:40,380
for a seven day period. That's
how many shows have posted at

883
00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:43,530
least one new episode. And
someone's

884
00:58:43,529 --> 00:58:45,929
making a lot of money for that
billion dollars that's flowing

885
00:58:45,929 --> 00:58:49,949
around this business. Right?
It's gotta be one guy in there.

886
00:58:49,949 --> 00:58:51,989
One guy in there is making $900
million.

887
00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:57,600
That's a billion dollars divided
by 211,000. That's a lot of

888
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,860
money. Which one is it?

889
00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:01,320
Yeah. Who are you guy?

890
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:08,729
Okay, so that's these numbers,
man. It's so so doable to get in

891
00:59:08,729 --> 00:59:10,349
there and get something done in
there?

892
00:59:11,909 --> 00:59:18,599
I think so. I mean, three OSI
338 to 5,685,338 episodes,

893
00:59:18,899 --> 00:59:28,499
divided by 487,236 shows to over
nine over 90 days. That's

894
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:35,669
averaging. Excuse me, that's 11
New episodes per feed over a 90

895
00:59:35,669 --> 00:59:36,419
day period.

896
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:42,929
So yeah, so a little more than
ones like 1.7 1.4 A week or

897
00:59:42,929 --> 00:59:43,499
something.

898
00:59:44,579 --> 00:59:47,879
Yeah, feels like I don't know
what I what it feels like I find

899
00:59:49,409 --> 00:59:50,519
I'm bored. Now. You

900
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,910
know what it seems like it seems
like 18 years later, and this is

901
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:56,310
the amount of podcasts that are
really active and we still

902
00:59:56,310 --> 00:59:59,490
haven't figured out how to do
advertising. Get a

903
00:59:59,490 --> 01:00:05,100
clue Got feeds with value
blocks. 10,495 Yeah, this

904
01:00:05,099 --> 01:00:09,269
is my favorite. This is my
favorite. My favorite number,

905
01:00:09,630 --> 01:00:13,440
and then feeds with transcripts
22,058.

906
01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:15,510
Of which most of it Buzzsprout,
I believe.

907
01:00:17,219 --> 01:00:19,829
Yeah, I would pass a yes or
half,

908
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:23,309
I think. Yeah, that's pretty
good. That's pretty good. I like

909
01:00:23,309 --> 01:00:23,639
that.

910
01:00:23,969 --> 01:00:26,039
Look at the episode numbers,
episodes or transcripts?

911
01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:32,429
534,202. That's all me this
year, at least a third of them?

912
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:35,729
A lot. But I think these

913
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,820
are great numbers. I love that.
No, I loved it. Don't change the

914
01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:42,450
name to hourly or lose it. These
are good numbers. I really never

915
01:00:42,450 --> 01:00:44,940
find it in this updates. Let me
guess every hour?

916
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:48,660
Yes. That's why it's called
Daily, because it updates every

917
01:00:48,660 --> 01:00:56,550
hour. Okay, I'm gonna change
that name. But if we can just

918
01:00:56,580 --> 01:01:02,160
add more stuff. So, you know,
once you go down this rabbit

919
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,060
hole, you can just stat all the
things so you know, like feeds

920
01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:12,720
with fees with chapters. feeds
that are music, medium feeds and

921
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:13,230
podcast

922
01:01:13,470 --> 01:01:15,810
follow up right there. How are
we doing with Slurpee?

923
01:01:17,969 --> 01:01:24,449
We did a big import last week is
not called a slurp it did us a

924
01:01:24,449 --> 01:01:26,339
spit as a slurping spit.

925
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,320
Sure it wasn't a song, it was
just a specific

926
01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:35,669
topic. The I'm gonna have to
limit your 100% of retro time

927
01:01:35,669 --> 01:01:37,919
before the show. This is the
reason

928
01:01:37,919 --> 01:01:40,739
why I say that makes you to
spice and when I had my company

929
01:01:40,739 --> 01:01:45,749
think new ideas. It was a big
company 700 people and so we had

930
01:01:45,749 --> 01:01:48,959
put we put these processes
together to run. But you're

931
01:01:48,959 --> 01:01:51,989
basically building websites, you
know, but for big companies,

932
01:01:51,989 --> 01:01:56,999
Budweiser, Reebok, you know,
stuff like this. And we would

933
01:01:57,029 --> 01:02:00,299
and we it's kind of up to us, we
could create whatever we wanted,

934
01:02:00,479 --> 01:02:03,779
within reason with the client
sign off and back end stuff. So

935
01:02:03,779 --> 01:02:06,599
we had the system, which we
literally called the process.

936
01:02:06,929 --> 01:02:12,569
And at the time staging and
production, so you'd have client

937
01:02:12,569 --> 01:02:15,839
services, who would be you know,
on the staging server with the

938
01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:18,659
client, the client checking it
all making sure it's okay, good

939
01:02:18,929 --> 01:02:22,469
or good. It can go to can go to
production, and they literally

940
01:02:22,469 --> 01:02:26,819
had a suck order. That's what
they have stuck it over to send

941
01:02:26,819 --> 01:02:29,189
it live. So that's where that
comes from.

942
01:02:30,750 --> 01:02:32,190
So you'd have to put in a circle
with a

943
01:02:32,250 --> 01:02:37,020
quarter. Yes, exactly. You want
to know who devised the system?

944
01:02:38,099 --> 01:02:41,039
Oh, yeah, that would have been
100%. You people love

945
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:41,939
using it, though.

946
01:02:44,130 --> 01:02:49,440
See? So I had this. I had this.
Yeah, we're the meat, the music

947
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,320
thing is going it's continuing
to go as just takes forever.

948
01:02:52,980 --> 01:02:54,900
Because yeah, don't analyze all
this stuff. And I don't want to

949
01:02:54,900 --> 01:02:58,560
pay $900 a month for a GPU
instance on Linode.

950
01:02:59,219 --> 01:03:05,609
No, no, no, but we have a man.
Okay. So do we. Yeah, that would

951
01:03:05,609 --> 01:03:08,489
be the one I'd love to see.
Next. We'll have the harmony

952
01:03:08,489 --> 01:03:09,689
news. Yeah.

953
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:13,980
Did we talk about that last week
about the different search

954
01:03:13,980 --> 01:03:18,780
endpoints that there are now so
I don't think maybe, that people

955
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:22,380
can use now if you're for app
developers that want to index

956
01:03:22,410 --> 01:03:25,470
they want to be able to search
music. There's a search, there's

957
01:03:25,470 --> 01:03:29,370
more, you can search only music
podcast. Now if you want to only

958
01:03:29,370 --> 01:03:33,270
find, you know, music, music
stuff, you want to search within

959
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:36,360
music stuff, and it'll just
return only podcasts that have

960
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:37,890
been tagged with a music medium.

961
01:03:38,730 --> 01:03:41,910
That's that's pretty powerful. I
like that. Yes,

962
01:03:41,909 --> 01:03:43,439
it needs me to use it. Well,

963
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:49,830
well, okay. It's, it's chicken
in the egg, it's always going to

964
01:03:49,830 --> 01:03:53,490
be that if we put on our
homepage or on our stats page.

965
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,910
This many feeds, you know, that
music enabled or whatever the

966
01:03:59,910 --> 01:04:03,360
terminology is, and published
that people will start like, oh,

967
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,360
that's just I can go to the
value for Value tab and I can

968
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,870
get the value for value podcast.
You do it for music.

969
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,020
And that'll get me really
interest rate or On Demand.

970
01:04:13,260 --> 01:04:13,710
Right? Yeah.

971
01:04:13,710 --> 01:04:16,410
And then Okay, so we'll just
have the traffic for now because

972
01:04:16,410 --> 01:04:18,900
the only other thing the only
other app that does music that

973
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:22,830
I'm aware of is curio caster, so
we'll just we'll just keep that

974
01:04:22,860 --> 01:04:23,910
we'll get that started.

975
01:04:24,990 --> 01:04:27,690
Yeah, I thought about putting a
little proof of concept a little

976
01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:32,700
demo app up that would just do
Oh, that's even better than just

977
01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:35,940
a one single page Yeah, you
know, little nothing at that

978
01:04:35,970 --> 01:04:38,400
that nobody's ever going to want
to use as their Yeah, just as

979
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:39,150
your daily show a

980
01:04:39,150 --> 01:04:43,770
different layout. And by the
way, grand dukes or David Foley

981
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:52,620
is remaking the no agenda Roku
app, which guess they upgraded

982
01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:57,330
to the version 2.0 of the
sparkle schnitzel, whatever,

983
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:02,550
whatever code you have to use
for the if it's not schnitzel

984
01:05:02,550 --> 01:05:06,150
sparkle 2.0 Then they took that
off. So, you know, some some

985
01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:10,410
great developer put this
together years ago. So we got

986
01:05:10,410 --> 01:05:12,870
taken down and we can't find the
guy he hasn't, you know, we

987
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:15,060
don't know where he is. So
David's gonna make a new one.

988
01:05:15,210 --> 01:05:19,140
And he knows how he has all the
2.0 she Parkinsonism sparkle

989
01:05:19,140 --> 01:05:24,270
stuff. And but he's I know he's
listening. He's also then going

990
01:05:24,270 --> 01:05:26,610
to put a music thing in it's
going to be interesting because

991
01:05:26,610 --> 01:05:30,150
the Rogan i It has audience, I
got people saying, what

992
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:35,730
happened? I always listened to
the Roku. It's weird, but yeah,

993
01:05:36,150 --> 01:05:36,480
they're

994
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:41,460
doing a great music podcast, the
Roku app would be really cool.

995
01:05:42,210 --> 01:05:46,440
Oh, yeah. It's like screaming
for this integration.

996
01:05:47,010 --> 01:05:49,740
Oh, I would I would use I would
actually use that a lot. Because

997
01:05:49,740 --> 01:05:53,310
we we do that a lot here in the
house. We take you know, we'll

998
01:05:53,310 --> 01:05:57,090
use the Spotify app or Pandora
or something like that. Just

999
01:05:57,090 --> 01:05:59,340
have music playing in the
background. Yeah. Oh, I would

1000
01:05:59,340 --> 01:06:00,150
totally do that.

1001
01:06:00,210 --> 01:06:05,730
Well, you can also do it. All we
want is one for value for value,

1002
01:06:05,730 --> 01:06:08,010
though. And David's got to put
that in

1003
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,640
a note you mean I want to I want
to

1004
01:06:11,639 --> 01:06:15,269
see confetti spewing on my TV
screen from a Roku app. That's

1005
01:06:15,269 --> 01:06:16,199
what I want to see.

1006
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:19,319
Oh, you boost straight from the
remote. I haven't able mocha.

1007
01:06:19,770 --> 01:06:22,590
Yeah, maybe you can do that. I
don't know might work.

1008
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,650
And then eventually we'll get
them to put a boost button on

1009
01:06:25,650 --> 01:06:29,520
the remote. No, you don't want
to sit on that.

1010
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,960
You're talking now you're
talking I like that idea.

1011
01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:37,199
Ya know what you mean Ice Cube
soup about proof of concept

1012
01:06:37,199 --> 01:06:42,119
apps. But but if I'm making if I
make it crappy enough, nobody

1013
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:45,869
will want to want to do so. I
can solve that

1014
01:06:45,869 --> 01:06:48,539
problem. Wow, that's exciting.
Can you also be also gonna put

1015
01:06:48,539 --> 01:06:51,929
it in this in the stats
somewhere put the music feed.

1016
01:06:51,959 --> 01:06:54,959
Okay, let's do that. Let's drive
we got to drive demand. And once

1017
01:06:54,959 --> 01:06:57,509
you here's what happens.
Everyone's sitting around

1018
01:06:57,509 --> 01:07:01,589
waiting for us to do a tape.
Just how it works. Which means

1019
01:07:01,589 --> 01:07:03,989
we just got to do it. Which
means no which means you got to

1020
01:07:03,989 --> 01:07:06,359
do it. This is the problem.
There's only one of you

1021
01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:14,639
know, that's how I started then
Alice rescues me and then and

1022
01:07:14,639 --> 01:07:16,739
then we and then we have a
product this is pretty this is

1023
01:07:16,739 --> 01:07:17,879
how this goes every time

1024
01:07:19,050 --> 01:07:21,510
well there's a lot of smart
people out there who I'm sure

1025
01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:25,740
would love to help with some
time and talent. True. So we

1026
01:07:25,740 --> 01:07:29,100
thank a few people who have been
boosting us live it's been the

1027
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:31,440
numbers are big today.
Something's going on something

1028
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,070
in the air.

1029
01:07:32,670 --> 01:07:34,560
Oh yeah, sure. Yeah, that'd be
great.

1030
01:07:34,590 --> 01:07:38,700
I'm not quite sure why but
people are just oh wait yeah,

1031
01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:43,200
Bitcoin of course was Bitcoin.
They're boosting. Boosting the

1032
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:48,540
dip is what they're doing chat F
p back a p bebchuk. There you

1033
01:07:48,540 --> 01:07:52,950
go. problem exists between chair
and keyboard. That's that's what

1034
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:59,340
we're looking for. That's 20,000
SATs. Thank you Chad. 11,111

1035
01:07:59,340 --> 01:08:03,030
from na millennial. I wish I
really wish someone would

1036
01:08:03,030 --> 01:08:06,210
automate the pod ping process
with a simple scripting language

1037
01:08:06,210 --> 01:08:07,050
like Python.

1038
01:08:07,980 --> 01:08:12,990
It has been there's an example
in the repo. You don't even need

1039
01:08:12,990 --> 01:08:14,400
Python. You can do it with

1040
01:08:14,789 --> 01:08:18,479
the command line or the shell
script shell script. Yeah. So

1041
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:27,989
take that booster lujah booster.
This is 111,111 Satoshis from

1042
01:08:27,989 --> 01:08:34,289
source D lit sticks Archie.
Thank you very much 1212 from

1043
01:08:34,289 --> 01:08:39,689
tone wrecker. There's another
source D with the same 111,111

1044
01:08:39,689 --> 01:08:44,399
Satoshis I think at this point
I'd call out 20 is Blaze only

1045
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:53,819
Impala more sticks and says go
podcast go podcast now we have

1046
01:08:53,849 --> 01:09:01,529
100,000 SATs from Sam Sethi
stars star of many podcasts

1047
01:09:03,149 --> 01:09:06,689
including Sam talks tech that is
what it's called

1048
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,710
yeah in star of many buckets
including ones that never

1049
01:09:10,710 --> 01:09:11,700
published an episode

1050
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,330
like the off the mic one which
was off the mic had never even

1051
01:09:15,330 --> 01:09:15,930
published

1052
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,380
it was aborted before it was
even born Sam says I would

1053
01:09:19,380 --> 01:09:19,710
prefer

1054
01:09:19,710 --> 01:09:23,160
activity pub was defined as a
listener to listener messaging

1055
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,510
protocol get slash post and
booster Graham's were defined as

1056
01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:30,960
a comment from listener to
creator Oh, that's an

1057
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,440
interesting point. But agree
adding Mastodon addresses to

1058
01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:39,000
hosts should be a no brainer
also add rel equals me to

1059
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:44,160
profile for verification. Or
inside of podcasts. txt or

1060
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:49,200
podcast person tags. Yes, I
think Sam was seeing how things

1061
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,040
are fitting together. Yeah. Is
he you know everyone's talking

1062
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,720
about his secret project.

1063
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,920
He's supposed to my
understanding is they supposed

1064
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,280
to unveil say That secret
project at Podcast Movement

1065
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:06,780
evolutions like when I don't
know when that is but it's I

1066
01:10:06,780 --> 01:10:07,740
think oh will

1067
01:10:07,740 --> 01:10:12,090
it be with like like a party and
a DJ and drinks no

1068
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,800
booth babes I don't know

1069
01:10:14,700 --> 01:10:16,980
that we call that entertainment
it's

1070
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,340
that's where the billion dollars
in podcasting is going right

1071
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,880
Brando sellers 25,000 simple old
boost what we love that sorry

1072
01:10:26,910 --> 01:10:32,280
boost boost boost Brian of
London 1948 I hate to say but we

1073
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,310
could do everything we do on
Mastodon on the hive community.

1074
01:10:35,310 --> 01:10:46,950
Yeah Is there really? Yes if you
get Dave Winer to set up a blog

1075
01:10:46,980 --> 01:10:48,360
on hive I will do it

1076
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,050
too. Right it will challenge

1077
01:10:54,450 --> 01:11:02,130
Okay, what else do we have here
we have the striper boost 70 777

1078
01:11:02,130 --> 01:11:08,010
from Pfeiffer booster bust, and
a test boost from me. Oh, here's

1079
01:11:09,210 --> 01:11:18,090
Dobby das from RSS. blue.com.
Yeah. 21,100 21,001 Thank you

1080
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,480
prime. Prime boost. There you
go. Thank you very much. Very

1081
01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:34,440
cool. Todd Cochran. Whoa,
180,420 20 blades on I am Paula.

1082
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,380
So it's like code man.

1083
01:11:37,860 --> 01:11:44,340
This theory is proven. is proven
fully. I mean, you You abused

1084
01:11:44,340 --> 01:11:47,430
how you talk shit about Todd and
he sends us 180,000 sets. I

1085
01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:48,990
mean, it's just this like, it's
not it's

1086
01:11:49,499 --> 01:11:56,579
not just 180 120 130,000 for 20
Get it, though, just change to

1087
01:11:56,579 --> 01:11:58,949
get Alby because my node
continues to have routing

1088
01:11:58,949 --> 01:12:02,519
issues. But as Adam recommend,
as Brad Adam recommended, I'm

1089
01:12:02,519 --> 01:12:04,799
going to try that for a while
Dave. Looking forward to the new

1090
01:12:04,799 --> 01:12:07,739
pod ping enhancement. Thank you
for providing the stats output

1091
01:12:07,739 --> 01:12:10,589
we're looking for this is going
to prove to be very valuable.

1092
01:12:10,589 --> 01:12:14,369
Hence the nice Satoshi boost
today. See this is that thank

1093
01:12:14,369 --> 01:12:18,029
you. That's value for value.
Beautiful. Thank you very much.

1094
01:12:18,329 --> 01:12:22,979
Glad glad to do it, Todd and
anybody else that needs I mean,

1095
01:12:23,159 --> 01:12:27,359
if you need stuff from the API,
just ask. I will always do my

1096
01:12:27,359 --> 01:12:28,259
best to get it to you.

1097
01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:31,950
I think that's what we have.
From the Live booster grams. I

1098
01:12:31,950 --> 01:12:34,590
think blueberry shows up on your
sheet. So you want to thank

1099
01:12:34,650 --> 01:12:37,590
these people in our value for
value proposition which keeps

1100
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:41,730
the entire shebang running,
including $90 a month for

1101
01:12:41,730 --> 01:12:46,380
apparently. On house.

1102
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,640
We've got let's see. We got to
pay pals.

1103
01:12:52,020 --> 01:12:54,630
Fiat Fu and fun coupons are
always appreciated.

1104
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,700
One is from our buddy, Franco
Celerio from Casta Matic. Hey,

1105
01:12:59,700 --> 01:13:07,710
Franco decent 6969 Nice. He's he
says thank you, Adam, Dave, and

1106
01:13:07,710 --> 01:13:11,010
all the podcasting. 2.0 gang.
Thank you, Franco,

1107
01:13:11,100 --> 01:13:19,590
Franco, Franco, man, let me give
you some noise for that. 6969 He

1108
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:21,150
didn't say it, but I know you
wanted to hear it.

1109
01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:27,720
Oh, yeah, he wanted to $25 from
Lowell. I'm going to try to say

1110
01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:34,590
his name. Lowell. brillant, b r
i l l a n t e. Thank you. And

1111
01:13:34,590 --> 01:13:36,480
there's no note but thank you lo
really

1112
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:37,650
very much appreciate it.

1113
01:13:40,290 --> 01:13:45,720
We've got we've got lots of
booster grams, but this is going

1114
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:50,490
to be a challenge because I am
but it solved itself. It fixed

1115
01:13:50,490 --> 01:13:52,350
itself. My email wouldn't open.
But now it's

1116
01:13:52,620 --> 01:13:55,080
oh, you know what, you know
what's gonna come next? We

1117
01:13:55,080 --> 01:14:00,930
moved. just moments away from
that. From that happening, we're

1118
01:14:00,930 --> 01:14:01,650
ready for you.

1119
01:14:01,950 --> 01:14:04,710
rebooted right before the show.
So it's fine. It's not going to

1120
01:14:04,710 --> 01:14:06,510
do any isn't there's going to be
zero problems.

1121
01:14:06,540 --> 01:14:08,790
I love the stability of your
Linux.

1122
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:15,450
Yes. Chaos. 99 90,000. SAS to
fountain Thank you. He says

1123
01:14:15,450 --> 01:14:19,050
boosting the NCAA discussion.
We'll see now there you go. I

1124
01:14:19,050 --> 01:14:23,040
know it was boring. But we got a
nice boost for it was my

1125
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,110
discussion of the NCAA of
college football. I

1126
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:27,060
didn't think that was boring.
Did I say it was boring?

1127
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:30,360
No. I said it was boring because
I was boring. By the time I get

1128
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:31,290
to the that's pretty

1129
01:14:31,290 --> 01:14:33,930
boring. If you're boring
yourself. That is an issue.

1130
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:40,500
Yeah. Thank you chaos 99
appreciate that. Donkey gave us

1131
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:43,560
100 SATs and this is below the
limit. But he says I was

1132
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,710
wondering if I could also put my
fountain wallet address in the

1133
01:14:46,710 --> 01:14:49,650
Art Generator. Yeah. What do I
need an ABI wallet which I don't

1134
01:14:49,650 --> 01:14:50,940
have. Yes, you can put that in
the wallet.

1135
01:14:50,940 --> 01:14:56,130
Yeah. If it's your username at
fountain was@fountain.fm Then

1136
01:14:56,130 --> 01:14:56,610
that's fine.

1137
01:14:57,150 --> 01:15:01,650
I think so and you do this also.
Answer CSBs question because he

1138
01:15:01,650 --> 01:15:05,310
was asking about whether or not
you could whether or not there

1139
01:15:05,310 --> 01:15:08,730
was a you could also use other
wallets besides lbu using the

1140
01:15:08,730 --> 01:15:10,980
landing address format in
Fountain is one of

1141
01:15:10,980 --> 01:15:13,020
those well, as long as it has
it, yeah.

1142
01:15:14,460 --> 01:15:16,530
As long as a wallet exists,
well,

1143
01:15:16,530 --> 01:15:20,490
as long as it has the known URL,
thingamabob setup.

1144
01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:22,470
I think it does. Yeah, no, it

1145
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:25,200
has your Yeah, it has to Yeah.
Because that's how I look up.

1146
01:15:25,350 --> 01:15:26,760
You know, the custom key.

1147
01:15:27,780 --> 01:15:32,160
Yeah. Gene Everett 3333. And he
says, boost

1148
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:35,820
give me this one.

1149
01:15:37,980 --> 01:15:44,220
Sorry. That's no good behind
you. Yes. Up in 1984. Sin is

1150
01:15:44,220 --> 01:15:47,880
3000 SATs and he says, to
clarify on my boost about

1151
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,910
financial ramifications, the
tags discussion gave me an idea

1152
01:15:51,180 --> 01:15:53,130
to avoid those financial
ramifications through

1153
01:15:53,130 --> 01:15:56,760
automation. Human error is
currently costing the company

1154
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,080
Fiat fun coupons in this idea
would reduce those errors. Also,

1155
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,440
the idea has maybe a 10% chance
of being implemented but there's

1156
01:16:04,440 --> 01:16:08,340
an r&d position opening up soon
so I'm trying to get on

1157
01:16:08,340 --> 01:16:12,630
management's radar ahead of the
competition. booths, very small

1158
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:18,540
card. Mere Mortals podcast or
buddy Karen big real estate's

1159
01:16:18,540 --> 01:16:22,470
11 111 through fountain and he
says Good riddance to all the

1160
01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:32,820
good jokes. Yeah, dabba doo
bows, the Bozak send us 1500

1161
01:16:32,820 --> 01:16:37,440
says through fountain No, no,
thank you. Oh, here, we gotta

1162
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:43,080
gotta read this one. It's 777 s
below the limit. He says Venom's

1163
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:46,230
black metal album was one of my
favorites back in junior high.

1164
01:16:46,260 --> 01:16:53,070
Thanks for the nostalgic moment.
Great. Franco Celerio also sent

1165
01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:59,880
us 6969 SATs. Whoa, whoa. And
what else would he use besides

1166
01:17:00,090 --> 01:17:04,230
CAC asthmatic goes to grams, the
latest two booster grants by

1167
01:17:04,230 --> 01:17:07,290
Franco Celerio. The ones without
a message were not set by me.

1168
01:17:07,620 --> 01:17:10,560
Either a rogue AI has taken
control of cast ematic and began

1169
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,740
sending SATs on his own will,
during my debug sessions, or

1170
01:17:13,740 --> 01:17:16,380
somebody is impersonating me and
sending his own money in my

1171
01:17:16,380 --> 01:17:17,850
name. No complaints.

1172
01:17:17,879 --> 01:17:19,769
V. O S. T.

1173
01:17:25,980 --> 01:17:27,360
Bag. Yeah, I'm trying

1174
01:17:27,959 --> 01:17:33,869
Karen Karen's back with another
111 111 He says unjustified

1175
01:17:33,869 --> 01:17:35,969
confidence is actually way
better than justified

1176
01:17:35,969 --> 01:17:39,509
insecurity, you'll live a better
life like that. Even if you get

1177
01:17:39,509 --> 01:17:44,129
yourself into a bit more
trouble. I have, I can't argue

1178
01:17:44,129 --> 01:17:50,099
with that at all. On that, when
it comes to justified belief,

1179
01:17:50,639 --> 01:17:55,079
there's a very good book by
Alvin Plantinga, called warrant

1180
01:17:55,079 --> 01:17:59,129
and proper function. I would
highly suggest it if anybody can

1181
01:17:59,129 --> 01:18:03,809
get there. And what's it about?
It's about why is the

1182
01:18:03,809 --> 01:18:06,869
philosophical foundations for
being confident in a belief

1183
01:18:07,769 --> 01:18:14,489
irrespective of how you get to
irrespective of of the quality

1184
01:18:14,489 --> 01:18:21,059
of the proof. So you can believe
how can we know say how can we

1185
01:18:21,059 --> 01:18:26,159
have confidence that the things
we believe are true in the in

1186
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:32,009
the capital T sense, even if
they are things that don't have

1187
01:18:32,009 --> 01:18:34,259
that sort of empirical truth
about them?

1188
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,770
Sounds like a page turner.

1189
01:18:40,230 --> 01:18:43,620
Yeah, if you're into
epistemology, it will definitely

1190
01:18:43,620 --> 01:18:50,910
be Karen again, he's triple
dipping to 22 to 22 through

1191
01:18:50,910 --> 01:18:54,750
curio caster, and he says, I
watched the FTX debacle on many

1192
01:18:54,750 --> 01:18:58,050
different crypto podcasts and
videos and came away with a new

1193
01:18:58,050 --> 01:19:03,480
takeaway. Many of them had been
sponsored by FTX. backpedaling

1194
01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:06,840
embarrassment. Yeah. So the
advertisement model isn't just

1195
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,710
since aureus, but also can the
cast unpleasant reflections of

1196
01:19:10,710 --> 01:19:14,640
association. And then midway
through, they would start

1197
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,480
talking about their sponsor
crypto.com or Nexo or another

1198
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:20,340
custodial exchange. Yeah.

1199
01:19:22,260 --> 01:19:25,950
I learned something just as as
data continues to come in, which

1200
01:19:25,950 --> 01:19:29,100
I thought was interesting, which
may help us understand a little

1201
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:33,600
bit about the the reason why it
could get out of hand like this.

1202
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,120
And all these so called
sophisticated people had not

1203
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,960
really seen that there was no
regulatory oversight. Turns out,

1204
01:19:40,050 --> 01:19:44,580
they spent about $2 billion on
acquiring companies or pieces of

1205
01:19:44,580 --> 01:19:48,810
companies that already had
regulatory approval. They even

1206
01:19:48,810 --> 01:19:52,830
had a heading forwards called
regulatory acquisitions. So they

1207
01:19:52,830 --> 01:19:55,650
were starting to pick up bits
and pieces of regulatory

1208
01:19:55,650 --> 01:20:00,210
approval by buying into or of
wholly acquiring company needs

1209
01:20:00,210 --> 01:20:04,080
that had some form or some
version of it and I can totally

1210
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:09,150
see Sequoia Capital going hey,
you know we spend this money but

1211
01:20:09,150 --> 01:20:11,850
these guys are rolling up the
it's gonna take forever to get

1212
01:20:11,850 --> 01:20:15,210
regulation but with these guys
are rolling it up into one ball

1213
01:20:15,210 --> 01:20:18,900
there'll be the do whatever they
want something like that. So

1214
01:20:18,930 --> 01:20:22,140
if you're buying your way into
the system rather than building

1215
01:20:22,140 --> 01:20:22,320
it,

1216
01:20:22,379 --> 01:20:25,769
but basically the reason why no
one caught it is because it's

1217
01:20:25,769 --> 01:20:29,249
the same way Wall Street. This
is the same way everywhere. It's

1218
01:20:29,249 --> 01:20:30,059
all corrupt.

1219
01:20:30,630 --> 01:20:37,290
Did you did you read? The
initial is the guy that's the

1220
01:20:37,290 --> 01:20:40,110
inner this the caretaker CEO
right now that's doing all the

1221
01:20:40,110 --> 01:20:40,620
auditing?

1222
01:20:40,650 --> 01:20:44,730
Yeah, I know. He's the guy that
that stepped in for Enron.

1223
01:20:44,790 --> 01:20:47,550
Ron. Yeah. That to me,

1224
01:20:47,850 --> 01:20:54,300
says cover up. That guy that guy
was pulled in within seconds.

1225
01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:58,290
Oh, I wouldn't say though he
blasted it from top to bottom.

1226
01:20:58,860 --> 01:21:03,270
Makes me feel even more certain
he's covering up something. He's

1227
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:05,430
gonna put the blame where the
blame has to go.

1228
01:21:06,030 --> 01:21:09,180
Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. A
lot of people did

1229
01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:13,530
not go to jail in the Enron
thing. Some people die in jail.

1230
01:21:13,620 --> 01:21:16,650
He's there to clean it. He's the
fees the cleanup guy.

1231
01:21:17,310 --> 01:21:18,420
He's the hatchet man.

1232
01:21:18,450 --> 01:21:21,120
No, he's clean. Oh, no, no, he's
the cleanup. Yeah, he's cleaning

1233
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,290
up the bodies. Yeah, he's
rolling stuff up in carpets.

1234
01:21:25,860 --> 01:21:27,990
He's chopping chopping limbs.

1235
01:21:28,110 --> 01:21:33,690
What he says when he points the
thing, his his humongous finger

1236
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:37,830
Aha. Is point gets pointed in
the directions that it needs to

1237
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:40,830
be pointed at. In order for the
parade. It doesn't get pointed

1238
01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:43,830
that to not have to endure any
real talent have any

1239
01:21:43,830 --> 01:21:47,280
connection to the Democratic
Party. We can't have any elite

1240
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,720
connections. We will throw
celebrities under the bus. So

1241
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,950
you know Tom Brady, you know, on
and on and on. That's the

1242
01:21:55,950 --> 01:21:58,170
distraction. That's what all the
news reports are.

1243
01:21:58,650 --> 01:22:02,550
Oh, yeah. And it's. And then on
the other side, you have Mitch

1244
01:22:02,580 --> 01:22:05,550
like Mitch McConnell taking
donations from for his

1245
01:22:05,550 --> 01:22:09,030
leadership campaign. It's all
all over the place.

1246
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:12,600
But it's so beautiful because
this this entire sham which was

1247
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:17,490
basically run by PR and people
buying into the PR is now being

1248
01:22:17,490 --> 01:22:21,330
cleaned and covered up by the PR
of Oh, geez. Did you hear what

1249
01:22:21,330 --> 01:22:24,630
the guys sorry to make you sound
dumb? Did you hear what the guy

1250
01:22:24,630 --> 01:22:27,840
said? He was from Enron. It was
all a mess. You didn't say it

1251
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,140
like that. But that's the trick.
That's the trick is that yeah,

1252
01:22:31,140 --> 01:22:31,500
you did.

1253
01:22:31,710 --> 01:22:33,090
That's the way I sounded to
myself.

1254
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:34,800
That's the trick.

1255
01:22:36,180 --> 01:22:39,660
That he got me It sucked me in.
Yeah,

1256
01:22:39,900 --> 01:22:42,540
it's just practice. That's the
only reason and you know what

1257
01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:45,480
I'm doing a little bit of a dive
on the guy. See what's going on.

1258
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:48,900
Thank you, Karen

1259
01:22:49,740 --> 01:22:53,370
Kyron. Thanks for getting us on.
That. was all about

1260
01:22:54,420 --> 01:22:59,850
12345. From SLC through fountain
it says Argyle Park. Christian,

1261
01:22:59,970 --> 01:23:06,750
Christian NISC industrial metal
techno. Okay. All right, Argyle

1262
01:23:06,750 --> 01:23:10,170
Park. Arg Wiley. Haven't heard
of him, but I'll give him a

1263
01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:16,590
check. SLC again. 12345 Blue
wallet got me my first K and C

1264
01:23:16,590 --> 01:23:21,420
box. Oh, nice. Man burgers for
the fam. The keeper needs time

1265
01:23:21,420 --> 01:23:23,520
to get used to grass fed beef
casting.

1266
01:23:25,890 --> 01:23:27,270
You finish your ground beef.

1267
01:23:27,959 --> 01:23:32,639
I've got one package left I've
been doing. I've been eating a

1268
01:23:32,639 --> 01:23:35,669
hamburger at nine o'clock in the
morning every morning for less.

1269
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:36,990
How you feel?

1270
01:23:38,130 --> 01:23:40,770
I'm feeling good. I think
different windows made a big

1271
01:23:40,770 --> 01:23:41,280
difference. Do

1272
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,480
you think you think it has made
a difference? For your next

1273
01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:48,600
order if I just try something
different? Okay, if I can

1274
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,750
recommend holy cow beef, holy
cow. They're in Lubbock, Texas.

1275
01:23:52,140 --> 01:23:56,010
And they said you can buy the
primal ground beef from them.

1276
01:23:56,670 --> 01:24:01,020
And that is ground beef, but it
includes heart liver, the ground

1277
01:24:01,020 --> 01:24:04,650
up all the good stuff in there,
as well with organ meats. Yes.

1278
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,170
And we tried some the other day.
We were both like, Oh, do you

1279
01:24:07,170 --> 01:24:10,740
have to hold our nose? Nuts.
It's just beautiful. You don't

1280
01:24:10,740 --> 01:24:16,260
take this? No. I mean, don't eat
it raw. But but there's no

1281
01:24:16,260 --> 01:24:20,670
there's no real weird taste or
smell or anything like that. And

1282
01:24:20,730 --> 01:24:22,830
okay, both are really good after
eating it.

1283
01:24:23,490 --> 01:24:26,340
Yeah, yeah, I'll definitely do
that. Alright, thanks. Cool.

1284
01:24:26,340 --> 01:24:26,700
That's that's

1285
01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:29,580
for that's for the next one. And
it's a different flavor profile.

1286
01:24:29,580 --> 01:24:32,520
You know, they have different
cows. It'll be fun to try it.

1287
01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:37,320
It's a little more it's probably
a little more irony is a little

1288
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:38,700
bit more of a livery type

1289
01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:42,870
flavor to Tina. I know Tina made
made taco meat with it. And it

1290
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:46,920
was just like great taco meat.
Oh, sweet. It was spicy because

1291
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,820
she spiced it but you know, it
was like, huh, tastes like spicy

1292
01:24:50,820 --> 01:24:55,680
shit liver. No, I didn't have
that. But not at all.

1293
01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:02,070
Anonymous 22 to 22 Thank you
anonymous no note 250 SATs from

1294
01:25:02,250 --> 01:25:04,920
Linda's gone it says we

1295
01:25:10,290 --> 01:25:13,770
David 1000 SATs first boost
beginning

1296
01:25:14,910 --> 01:25:16,050
welcome booster

1297
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,920
3333 from Captain egg head no
note from pod first thank you

1298
01:25:21,150 --> 01:25:27,750
6969 sets from Hey citizen pod
first app. He says the molested

1299
01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:33,030
podcast indicates on the doll
where the insertion Stop. Stop

1300
01:25:33,060 --> 01:25:34,050
really?

1301
01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:43,350
See blind apes in this Hunter
SAS. Oh, that's um I'm getting

1302
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:45,720
all out of whack here because
I'm reading I'm reading

1303
01:25:45,930 --> 01:25:50,100
I'll say What are you reading?
What are you doing?

1304
01:25:50,970 --> 01:25:54,270
I got out I got my email out of
order. Oh there it is. Okay, I'm

1305
01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:58,260
back. 10,000 SATs from Sir dug
in he just says boost

1306
01:25:59,340 --> 01:26:01,020
boost boost

1307
01:26:01,140 --> 01:26:06,150
floydian slips in his 5000 SATs
through curio caster and

1308
01:26:06,150 --> 01:26:13,950
flooding slip says hugs and
kisses. Oh let's see. Comic

1309
01:26:13,950 --> 01:26:17,040
Strip blogger. Oh, you know
what? Comic Strip blogger? The

1310
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,850
Illuminati. He's Yeah, but he
messed me up because he changed

1311
01:26:20,850 --> 01:26:21,570
his boost amount.

1312
01:26:22,260 --> 01:26:23,940
That's why he's boosting the dip
for us.

1313
01:26:24,090 --> 01:26:26,550
He's boosting the dip. Yes, I'm
gonna come back to comic strip

1314
01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:32,370
blog. Okay. Brown of London and
have the EO 59,913 SAS and I

1315
01:26:32,370 --> 01:26:37,800
says it every Rose has its Thorn
just like every night has his

1316
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,410
Dawn Oh, that's who was as

1317
01:26:41,070 --> 01:26:45,180
warrant Well, no, no point no
it's poison poison poison every

1318
01:26:45,180 --> 01:26:52,830
rose every Rose has a storm song
every cow of all things the

1319
01:26:52,830 --> 01:26:59,580
same. Oh song. I love I love it
when that delay kicks in and

1320
01:26:59,580 --> 01:27:03,270
we're singing if you if someone
asked us to sing that way you

1321
01:27:03,270 --> 01:27:03,930
couldn't do it.

1322
01:27:05,730 --> 01:27:07,530
The Jerry's kid podcast No,
because you're

1323
01:27:07,530 --> 01:27:10,620
exactly right behind me where it
still works a synth Copic

1324
01:27:11,220 --> 01:27:15,540
Oh, beautiful. It says the
beauty of clean feed. It is

1325
01:27:15,540 --> 01:27:21,990
blueberry 33 333 Yay. From the
boost CLI. He says On last

1326
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:28,740
week's mystery index listing
podcast ID 5793896. Recently, I

1327
01:27:28,740 --> 01:27:32,130
discovered that you can view the
RSS feeds for Mastodon profiles.

1328
01:27:32,490 --> 01:27:35,250
There was only one logical
question to ask can I list a

1329
01:27:35,250 --> 01:27:39,090
mastodon feed in the index?
Setting out like a lead cast in

1330
01:27:39,090 --> 01:27:45,570
a turn to Tarantino film? About
what don't know what he's

1331
01:27:45,570 --> 01:27:50,280
saying. Setting out like a lead
cast in a Tarantino film about

1332
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:56,730
skits or NCIS Oh, I lost me
boobie. I was right there with

1333
01:27:56,730 --> 01:27:57,240
you brother.

1334
01:27:57,510 --> 01:28:03,600
He loves the end No, you know if
no if a mastodon feed magically

1335
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:04,950
has an enclosure you can

1336
01:28:07,230 --> 01:28:09,180
do they have enclosures I don't

1337
01:28:09,180 --> 01:28:13,530
believe so. Oh, interesting.

1338
01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:17,610
Interesting or do they just have
HTML? I bet they just let me

1339
01:28:17,610 --> 01:28:22,530
check right now podcast index
dot socialist grinding we're in

1340
01:28:22,530 --> 01:28:24,540
our galaxy level of service.

1341
01:28:25,770 --> 01:28:27,720
We are Galaxy level we are

1342
01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:31,170
we are the Galaxy levels I just
do wait I've got a follow up

1343
01:28:31,170 --> 01:28:34,740
note from him I've got to follow
Oh Second Part Part Two the

1344
01:28:34,740 --> 01:28:37,710
booster Graham the booster
Graham got cut off and he says

1345
01:28:38,850 --> 01:28:42,360
sitting out with a lead cast in
a Tarantino film about scissors

1346
01:28:42,540 --> 01:28:46,500
a pulled the BTS feed up in
hacked away combining info

1347
01:28:46,500 --> 01:28:49,590
format from both feeds this
homemade one looks like feta

1348
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:53,010
means monster not a joke. I was
eventually able to make the

1349
01:28:53,010 --> 01:28:57,090
index list public posts, index
list public posts from my

1350
01:28:57,090 --> 01:29:00,720
account. What I found is you can
toot mp3 on Macedon and have

1351
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,020
those appear in the index with
enough nudging does producing a

1352
01:29:04,020 --> 01:29:09,990
boost double toot. Oh, is that
is that true?

1353
01:29:10,620 --> 01:29:13,230
I don't know. But I'll tell you
that what I'm learning here is

1354
01:29:13,230 --> 01:29:20,850
that podcast index dot social
RSS feeds are version 2.0. And

1355
01:29:20,850 --> 01:29:27,570
they declare the Yahoo media RSS
namespace

1356
01:29:29,310 --> 01:29:31,380
they should be declaring the
podcasts namespace

1357
01:29:31,589 --> 01:29:33,779
well it's yes of course they
should.

1358
01:29:34,650 --> 01:29:38,250
Well I don't know exactly what
he's what black voodoo he is

1359
01:29:38,250 --> 01:29:46,740
doing. But he for sure as gotten
Toots to show up as episodes in

1360
01:29:46,740 --> 01:29:50,970
the index. What I don't
understand

1361
01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:56,370
Ah wait on that on that that
index ID

1362
01:29:56,940 --> 01:30:01,020
Yeah, just posted it in the in
the chat in the In the chat room

1363
01:30:01,590 --> 01:30:07,890
that's the that's 57938960 Look

1364
01:30:07,890 --> 01:30:08,400
at that

1365
01:30:10,349 --> 01:30:14,849
I don't understand what he's
doing here get spooky going

1366
01:30:14,849 --> 01:30:17,279
around these here parts

1367
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:27,300
so that's that's what plays me
bitch. Oh crap that's

1368
01:30:27,300 --> 01:30:31,650
interesting so he has two
episodes. The first two episodes

1369
01:30:31,650 --> 01:30:35,490
there's something spoken going
and then it goes to spooked out

1370
01:30:35,490 --> 01:30:36,420
social

1371
01:30:37,770 --> 01:30:40,680
look looks like he's embedded
something if I follow the

1372
01:30:40,860 --> 01:30:43,110
mastodon Linko spook does social

1373
01:30:45,090 --> 01:30:48,750
oh well he uploaded audio well
let me take a look at this RSS

1374
01:30:48,750 --> 01:30:53,850
feed is just crazy. When that'd
be nuts if you can tell this

1375
01:30:53,850 --> 01:30:56,730
page is not available. Okay, so
he's hacked something

1376
01:30:57,090 --> 01:30:58,650
nonstandard, I guess.

1377
01:30:58,860 --> 01:31:04,110
www dot feed up behind the
schemes.com/bb fi dot XML

1378
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,960
Yeah, that's not as Mastodon
feed.

1379
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,560
We're gonna have to we're gonna
have to figure something out

1380
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:11,130
here.

1381
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:17,460
I don't know also, yeah, I don't
I don't see these posts on his

1382
01:31:17,610 --> 01:31:19,020
Mastodon per se.

1383
01:31:20,010 --> 01:31:28,260
All right, Bouverie code or it
didn't happen. Let's see. See

1384
01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:35,310
Bouverie again. 80,000 Oh, eight
big boob donation he says the

1385
01:31:35,310 --> 01:31:38,820
podcast index boosted through
the podcast index website.

1386
01:31:38,850 --> 01:31:41,070
That's a massive boob donation.

1387
01:31:42,030 --> 01:31:47,070
80,000 Oh, that's I feel like
that's a big baller shot caller

1388
01:31:47,070 --> 01:31:52,590
20 is blades on I am Paula.
That's a double D boost. This

1389
01:31:52,590 --> 01:31:56,670
past Monday we played a game of
chess on air for BTS the next

1390
01:31:56,670 --> 01:32:00,210
day I took the video recording
of the match massage did and

1391
01:32:00,210 --> 01:32:02,400
produced a 45 minute GIF of the
game

1392
01:32:07,650 --> 01:32:11,910
man madman you are a total
madman. Slide that bad boy into

1393
01:32:11,910 --> 01:32:14,790
your chapters when the game
starts and boom, you get real

1394
01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:18,870
time ish playback of chess in a
nude podcast app. This goes out

1395
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:22,110
the window if you skip around or
listen at a faster rate.

1396
01:32:23,130 --> 01:32:26,520
There's another link here so
he's jacked this on pod verse oh

1397
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:32,730
man, can I love this this is
this is oh there it is. Okay, so

1398
01:32:32,730 --> 01:32:36,210
if I hit this was not able to
prepare Okay, so then I should

1399
01:32:36,210 --> 01:32:41,370
see this in the chapter and it
should be my only logical cause

1400
01:32:41,730 --> 01:32:45,000
to this shouldn't I see the
chapters here somewhere? A

1401
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,080
chapter here we go.

1402
01:32:47,310 --> 01:32:50,340
This is not just scissors this
is way beyond scissors this is

1403
01:32:50,340 --> 01:32:50,850
like hedge

1404
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,810
hedge hedge hedge cutters or
whatever you clip oh my goodness

1405
01:32:54,810 --> 01:32:58,440
yes I see it you got a big

1406
01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:04,560
is a 45 minutes that's got to be
like a 300 meg GIF.

1407
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:11,340
I don't know can I save image
yeah BTS chapter chess long was

1408
01:33:11,340 --> 01:33:14,190
take a look. I'll tell you how
big it is

1409
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,830
I hope people actually enjoy us
doing dumb stuff. Six mags not

1410
01:33:22,830 --> 01:33:29,400
too bad it must be Jeff Jeff
chest Jeff

1411
01:33:29,820 --> 01:33:32,520
is just about 120 it's

1412
01:33:32,879 --> 01:33:38,279
it's a standard size chest Wow,
that's a new one for me.

1413
01:33:39,270 --> 01:33:41,550
All right. You're a madman

1414
01:33:41,580 --> 01:33:44,550
one of the one of these days
people figure out the incredible

1415
01:33:44,550 --> 01:33:51,270
utility of of the chapter images
links all of it. Follow up for

1416
01:33:51,270 --> 01:33:54,450
your advertisers even if you
want people come on get it

1417
01:33:54,450 --> 01:33:55,710
together. We'll be the

1418
01:33:55,830 --> 01:34:00,660
one we're giving you the tools
to go fish, comic strip blogger

1419
01:34:00,660 --> 01:34:03,600
the delimiter 33,015. Sets Yeah.

1420
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:14,610
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1427
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1429
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thing. $25 in David Wood, fine.
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1439
01:35:28,530 --> 01:35:32,280
Thank you all so much for
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1440
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podcast projects, keeping the
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everything running, keeping
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1442
01:35:38,580 --> 01:35:42,180
that needs to happen. Time town
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1443
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1444
01:35:45,210 --> 01:35:49,320
find a link to the Pay Pal for
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1445
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:52,230
of course, we'd like you to get
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1446
01:35:52,620 --> 01:35:56,310
Thanks, James. I'm stealing that
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your heart's delight, especially
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1450
01:36:08,100 --> 01:36:14,100
you for supporting us very, very
much. Now I gotta keep you on

1451
01:36:14,100 --> 01:36:18,090
time. So if you want to start an
argument, then now's the time.

1452
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,760
Go I gotta I gotta get you back
to the office. Man. You're busy,

1453
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,790
busy. When does this end? We
miss you

1454
01:36:27,150 --> 01:36:30,480
know, I'm, I'm off the rest of
the day. Oh, the rest of the

1455
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:31,350
day. Oh,

1456
01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:32,370
okay. I thought you started.

1457
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,610
We started late. But we got. We
got? No, I

1458
01:36:35,610 --> 01:36:38,190
thought you had to go late. Or
you had to go back to the

1459
01:36:38,190 --> 01:36:38,760
office?

1460
01:36:39,090 --> 01:36:41,820
No, man, I'm good to go for
today. I'm not and I'm off next

1461
01:36:41,820 --> 01:36:45,180
week for the Thanksgiving. Which
Which brings up a point. Well,

1462
01:36:45,180 --> 01:36:47,070
we're both not be having a show
next week. Yeah, we

1463
01:36:47,070 --> 01:36:51,060
will not be having a show for
the Thanksgiving festivities.

1464
01:36:51,330 --> 01:36:55,110
Quite honestly, I don't know of
any corporation anywhere that

1465
01:36:55,110 --> 01:37:02,130
has a board meeting between
basically on Black Friday. Yeah,

1466
01:37:02,220 --> 01:37:05,880
so So yes, there'll be no board
big now. What's interesting is

1467
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:10,590
the week after that, I hope to
be able to conduct a board

1468
01:37:10,590 --> 01:37:10,920
meeting.

1469
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,300
I think we can and I think it's
going to be similar thing to

1470
01:37:15,300 --> 01:37:18,660
today. I've got to do a
presentation, a actually a

1471
01:37:18,660 --> 01:37:24,120
Bitcoin presentation for a bunch
of lawyers. So it's like a CPE

1472
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,540
thing for them. And so I'm gonna
do I'm gonna do that. And

1473
01:37:27,540 --> 01:37:31,170
that's, that's it like 11
o'clock. So I shouldn't be in

1474
01:37:31,170 --> 01:37:33,180
and then just going to take the
rest of the day off after that.

1475
01:37:33,180 --> 01:37:37,440
So I'll be should be able to hit
the show around two o'clock, I

1476
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:37,830
think

1477
01:37:37,890 --> 01:37:40,290
and that is Friday the 25th.

1478
01:37:42,990 --> 01:37:44,730
No, that's no idea. The second

1479
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:50,760
Okay, so the second so here's
the thing. I may not be capable

1480
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,640
of doing the show. Because
you're having your mouth surgery

1481
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:59,190
that way. On Tuesday. Yeah. So
we're thinking it should not be

1482
01:37:59,190 --> 01:38:02,280
a problem. But let's just know
that we might have to do it

1483
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:02,910
Saturday.

1484
01:38:03,570 --> 01:38:06,810
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll
just play it by ear as you feel

1485
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:07,950
you know, based on your health.

1486
01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:10,050
It's just if I can talk that's
all

1487
01:38:11,670 --> 01:38:12,840
you can be so goals.

1488
01:38:14,910 --> 01:38:22,320
Oh. I am so anxious about it.
Like are you nervous? Or never

1489
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,200
I've never been knocked out.
I've never had an issue. I'm

1490
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:27,330
more nervous about the
anesthesia than about the

1491
01:38:27,330 --> 01:38:30,750
procedure. And then I know what
the procedure is done then I

1492
01:38:30,750 --> 01:38:36,120
just know you know, it's a
process temporaries I have a

1493
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:40,140
bone marrow transplant because
of bone loss. So that has to

1494
01:38:40,140 --> 01:38:46,140
heal. So that takes two three
months, then the actual implants

1495
01:38:46,140 --> 01:38:50,400
come. So it's just a I feel
sorry

1496
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:50,970
for you brother.

1497
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:55,260
No, I appreciate it. But I
should have done this. Honestly

1498
01:38:55,260 --> 01:38:59,580
is eight nine years ago I should
have this is just hey, you know

1499
01:38:59,580 --> 01:39:03,210
some people got a weak heart. My
head's falling apart. We're

1500
01:39:03,210 --> 01:39:11,310
gonna everyone's got something
this is me. This is this is my

1501
01:39:11,310 --> 01:39:16,620
thing. This is my mechanical and
mouth mouth stuff. But it's

1502
01:39:16,620 --> 01:39:19,050
important that's what I have to
do it because it's so important

1503
01:39:19,050 --> 01:39:22,740
for your overall health. It is
really affects your health in

1504
01:39:22,740 --> 01:39:23,730
crazy ways.

1505
01:39:24,450 --> 01:39:28,230
Now you're you're thinking you
were told by the mother dental

1506
01:39:28,230 --> 01:39:30,660
surgeon that this is going to
help your sinuses too, right.

1507
01:39:30,660 --> 01:39:31,050
Yeah,

1508
01:39:31,290 --> 01:39:36,510
I've I've had we couldn't figure
out why I was so allergic after

1509
01:39:36,540 --> 01:39:39,450
never having that in my life and
then moving to Texas and it was

1510
01:39:39,450 --> 01:39:42,510
kind of coincidental. But yeah,
I've had this, this low level

1511
01:39:42,510 --> 01:39:46,350
kind of infection up near my
upper molars and they have been

1512
01:39:46,350 --> 01:39:48,540
just whenever I eat, which I
always thought oh, I'm going to

1513
01:39:48,540 --> 01:39:51,150
restaurant in Austin boy. Oh,
there it is. I've got the

1514
01:39:51,150 --> 01:39:52,350
allergy again. No,

1515
01:39:52,710 --> 01:39:56,790
I'm chewing. Oh, and that's
releasing the Yes. And that

1516
01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:57,180
sends it

1517
01:39:57,180 --> 01:40:00,210
off and then you know then the
sinuses start flowing. Then

1518
01:40:00,210 --> 01:40:00,660
you're done.

1519
01:40:01,230 --> 01:40:06,600
That's amazing. It's crazy how
that we always look for things

1520
01:40:06,630 --> 01:40:11,280
we look for. What are you gonna
cut like causation? For

1521
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:16,590
correlate? You know, we're like,
Oh, yeah. For years. Yeah, it

1522
01:40:16,590 --> 01:40:19,560
makes so much sense that this
was just one thing but it's not.

1523
01:40:20,370 --> 01:40:24,960
And all it took was like a five
minute CT scan, which I'd never

1524
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,120
done one of those but that's,
you know you put your head in

1525
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:31,080
there. Okay, and then yeah, just
go take a look. drill right down

1526
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:32,940
through your head. Oh, look,
there's the there's the

1527
01:40:32,940 --> 01:40:36,750
inflammation right on an East
Side view, rotate, enhance zoom,

1528
01:40:37,020 --> 01:40:37,770
arrest him.

1529
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:41,550
Kill us up the address.

1530
01:40:42,270 --> 01:40:44,460
Oh, wait, I see something in the
reflection on the bumper.

1531
01:40:47,250 --> 01:40:51,360
Let's see. But, you know, Alex
Bosworth?

1532
01:40:52,020 --> 01:40:55,050
Yes. From balance of Satoshis.
Yes, the

1533
01:40:55,050 --> 01:40:59,940
balance of Satoshis. The guy
tool. If people don't know what

1534
01:40:59,940 --> 01:41:02,700
balance Satoshi is, it's a it's
a it's a, it's written in

1535
01:41:02,700 --> 01:41:06,600
JavaScript. But it's a command
line tool to let you pull all of

1536
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:10,620
your transactions. It does a lot
of stuff. I mean, it's like a

1537
01:41:10,620 --> 01:41:14,550
Swiss Army knife of lightning
Node Management. But one of the

1538
01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:16,890
things it does it has an
accounting function. So you can

1539
01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:22,110
run baz the name of this named
Toby OS boss space, accounting,

1540
01:41:22,650 --> 01:41:25,860
space, and then a bunch of
options Command Line switches to

1541
01:41:25,860 --> 01:41:30,780
pull down your lightning know
transactions for certain time

1542
01:41:30,780 --> 01:41:34,110
periods and things. Then you can
also say, okay, resolve it to

1543
01:41:34,110 --> 01:41:42,630
fiat, so it will produce this
nice CSV file of, let's just say

1544
01:41:42,630 --> 01:41:45,810
all the transactions for the
month of, of

1545
01:41:45,870 --> 01:41:48,780
of a dozen residue, if it
doesn't run out of memory after

1546
01:41:48,780 --> 01:41:53,190
three hours what exactly I did
running everywhere that I gave

1547
01:41:53,190 --> 01:41:56,910
up on balance of Soto's except
for doing report, I think I

1548
01:41:56,910 --> 01:42:00,900
think report just, I could get a
report out of it, but nothing,

1549
01:42:00,900 --> 01:42:02,730
nothing. I couldn't do anything
else.

1550
01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:06,900
Okay, well, through working with
him on that issue, because I was

1551
01:42:06,900 --> 01:42:13,860
trying to, I will, on a monthly
basis, what I do is download, I

1552
01:42:13,860 --> 01:42:19,530
use bars, or was using bars to
download all the transactions

1553
01:42:19,530 --> 01:42:23,280
out of our lightning node into a
CSV file for the month. So as

1554
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,890
soon as let's just say if it
gets if it's, as soon as the

1555
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:31,080
June is June 1 hits, I'll grab
all of Mays transactions into a

1556
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:36,390
CSV ends in and have because
that way you can have it resolve

1557
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:41,730
the Trent the SATs into Fiat, on
the fair market value of the day

1558
01:42:41,730 --> 01:42:42,930
that the transaction happened.

1559
01:42:43,260 --> 01:42:47,220
Yeah, that's so cool. And boss
does that right? It looks up

1560
01:42:47,250 --> 01:42:51,060
does a date that even the time
or just the day, close price.

1561
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,300
I think it's the closing price
of the day. It is through you

1562
01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:56,820
can go through one or the you
can go through coin desk or coin

1563
01:42:56,820 --> 01:43:00,660
Gecko to resolve those amounts.
Right. And it was working fine

1564
01:43:00,660 --> 01:43:04,410
until April. Then when I tried
to pull maize. This has been a

1565
01:43:04,410 --> 01:43:08,670
few months ago. It just crapped
the bed. I mean, like it. It

1566
01:43:08,670 --> 01:43:14,520
crashed, memory exhausted, done.
Okay, so I haven't been using it

1567
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,410
since. And I was like, Okay,
well, at the end by that

1568
01:43:16,410 --> 01:43:18,420
sometime by the end of the year,
we have to get this resolved,

1569
01:43:18,420 --> 01:43:22,920
because we'll need to pull our
accounting for taxes. So I just

1570
01:43:23,010 --> 01:43:25,290
started getting in there while I
was working. I couldn't get it

1571
01:43:25,290 --> 01:43:30,690
to work. Through working with
Alex Bosworth in the telegram

1572
01:43:30,690 --> 01:43:34,740
channel. We went back and forth.
And he he found the issue and

1573
01:43:34,740 --> 01:43:38,370
fixed it. Really what was it?
Yes, it was just a memory

1574
01:43:38,370 --> 01:43:42,030
management thing. He was
pulling. He said that it's got

1575
01:43:42,030 --> 01:43:45,330
to do with the way he was
pulling the transit the settled

1576
01:43:45,330 --> 01:43:49,440
invoices out. He was pulling
them all at once, all at once,

1577
01:43:49,740 --> 01:43:53,400
and then filtering, rather than
pulling just the filtered

1578
01:43:53,700 --> 01:43:56,610
invoices. That was That's my
layman's understanding of what

1579
01:43:56,610 --> 01:44:01,170
he was doing. But he pushed a
couple of changes. Finally, we

1580
01:44:01,170 --> 01:44:05,760
found the right combination of
things. And it's fixed this and

1581
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:09,150
then I ran it and took about
nine hours.

1582
01:44:09,870 --> 01:44:11,550
Well, for what for one month?

1583
01:44:11,850 --> 01:44:19,410
No for May through October. So I
ran month 56789 and 10. So it

1584
01:44:19,410 --> 01:44:25,830
took nine and a half hours. And
it produced. Let's see, two is

1585
01:44:25,830 --> 01:44:29,730
like something like two not
2,900,000 transactions.

1586
01:44:30,030 --> 01:44:35,820
Oh man, what's what version is?
is updating? Do you know?

1587
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,960
It's 13 point 5.1 is where the
fixes are.

1588
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:42,150
I'm on 11 How the hell did that
happen? That's

1589
01:44:42,150 --> 01:44:43,320
no yeah, you're way behind.

1590
01:44:45,210 --> 01:44:47,430
I must have to get a different
repo or something

1591
01:44:48,150 --> 01:44:52,380
I can't find had the stats, but
I can't find it. But I was

1592
01:44:52,380 --> 01:44:55,800
trying to find the exact count.
But there so it had I mean there

1593
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,460
were there was a lot of
transactions. So we're we're

1594
01:44:59,460 --> 01:45:03,660
well over Are 5 million
transactions now? In our l&d

1595
01:45:03,660 --> 01:45:05,310
data processing crazy.

1596
01:45:06,990 --> 01:45:12,780
What's even crazier is that no
one no one in any of the initial

1597
01:45:12,780 --> 01:45:16,500
development lightning labs
anywhere, no one has anyone

1598
01:45:16,500 --> 01:45:18,810
really considered that this will
be used for I don't know,

1599
01:45:18,810 --> 01:45:25,560
micropayments. Right. This is
what this is, what gets me is

1600
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:26,580
just insane.

1601
01:45:27,449 --> 01:45:30,929
But it works. That's the, that's
the even more insane part, this

1602
01:45:30,929 --> 01:45:34,169
is how it works. Somehow these
millions of transactions, it

1603
01:45:34,169 --> 01:45:35,639
just keeps on chugging. Well,
when

1604
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:40,380
you do not discount to the
community. You know, I was, I've

1605
01:45:40,380 --> 01:45:42,600
been reading a lot about
networks, particularly, you

1606
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,720
know, my interest in networks
has always been there. But, you

1607
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:49,860
know, kicking a G 20, Member off
of Swift, you know, what kind of

1608
01:45:49,860 --> 01:45:53,910
implications does that have, I'm
interested in, in networks. And

1609
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,420
ultimately, the network is just,
it's a network, but it's what's

1610
01:45:57,420 --> 01:46:03,840
connected to the network. And
our nodes are peering our

1611
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:08,880
routing with, you know, with the
players with the players. We got

1612
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:12,450
the players, they got the
swagger, you know, we have

1613
01:46:12,570 --> 01:46:16,920
breeze, we got our B, we got an
LM PE with a fountain, it's

1614
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:20,520
like, the the players are
connected, and we got the, the

1615
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:24,330
smaller individual nodes, and
there's all kinds of people like

1616
01:46:25,230 --> 01:46:28,590
Orson Welles or whatever, Steve
Jobs who comes in with 10

1617
01:46:28,590 --> 01:46:32,310
million sat channels, and it's
the community that makes it work

1618
01:46:32,340 --> 01:46:36,090
otherwise, and Trudeau Justin
Trudeau otherwise, it just

1619
01:46:36,090 --> 01:46:40,440
wouldn't work at all. So chapeau
Bye, everybody. Good job,

1620
01:46:40,440 --> 01:46:46,470
everybody. That's a wrap. Well
done for today. Else,

1621
01:46:46,740 --> 01:46:49,170
I had another I had one more
thing I want to throw at you

1622
01:46:49,170 --> 01:46:54,540
ensure I feel like we can do
some sort of lightning liquidity

1623
01:46:54,540 --> 01:46:55,170
checker.

1624
01:46:56,070 --> 01:46:58,950
Oh, yeah. You were paying me
about this.

1625
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:03,780
I don't necessarily want to go
too far down this hole. But I

1626
01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:08,340
feel like that could be a thing
that we have a thing that we

1627
01:47:08,370 --> 01:47:12,510
offer. Because in here, here's
the here's the way it looks to

1628
01:47:12,510 --> 01:47:16,350
me in my head, let me just let
me just hit you with this thing.

1629
01:47:18,300 --> 01:47:24,180
If, if we rule out the big
nodes, so anything, we just look

1630
01:47:24,180 --> 01:47:27,480
at, look at all the we look at
the node IDs is okay, we're,

1631
01:47:27,660 --> 01:47:31,230
we're not going to bother
checking anything that's on LM

1632
01:47:31,230 --> 01:47:36,000
pay for anything that's own lb,
or fountain or whatever. Like we

1633
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,690
just kind of toss those out.
What you're left with is going

1634
01:47:39,690 --> 01:47:46,410
to be mostly private nodes. So
people like Todd, who are

1635
01:47:46,410 --> 01:47:50,550
running their own roles and
things like that. If on a

1636
01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:55,800
periodic basis, I don't know,
once every few hours, six hours

1637
01:47:55,800 --> 01:48:01,140
or so we just do a test route to
them and see if a payment would

1638
01:48:01,140 --> 01:48:05,820
fail. We don't we don't even
have to send anything we just do

1639
01:48:05,820 --> 01:48:12,150
a test a route payment. And see
if it would if it would not

1640
01:48:12,150 --> 01:48:20,250
route. We display that status.
Some were to them or I don't

1641
01:48:20,250 --> 01:48:23,040
know, that's the part I don't
know about is how to make that

1642
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:27,240
public. But when we could make
that have that information

1643
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:30,750
available is basically trying to
give an early warning system to

1644
01:48:31,140 --> 01:48:33,300
hey, you're having a liquidity
issue.

1645
01:48:34,140 --> 01:48:38,730
It's a nice thing to do. I'm a
little worried that it's just

1646
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:45,660
fixing a an ephemeral problem.
This is all going to fix itself.

1647
01:48:46,980 --> 01:48:50,490
You know, Todd's problem fix
itself. She went to UK he went

1648
01:48:50,490 --> 01:48:51,060
to Aldi

1649
01:48:51,810 --> 01:48:54,180
Yeah, I guess I just don't want
to I don't want to force people

1650
01:48:54,180 --> 01:48:55,560
to get a custodial.

1651
01:48:56,010 --> 01:49:02,700
No, no, you see, but Okay, so
you but it's not our job. It's

1652
01:49:02,700 --> 01:49:05,940
the umbrellas of the world to do
a better job to start nines of

1653
01:49:05,940 --> 01:49:09,330
the world. This is their job.
This is their job. And this is

1654
01:49:09,330 --> 01:49:15,630
their job. It's also breeze and
it's also the with the guys. You

1655
01:49:15,630 --> 01:49:19,410
know, the lightning service
providers, those that they're

1656
01:49:19,440 --> 01:49:21,930
ramping up, they're going to
come in and start offering you

1657
01:49:21,930 --> 01:49:25,110
don't have to this is what I
love about the breeze wallet. I

1658
01:49:25,110 --> 01:49:30,060
have $500 in Satoshis in my
breeze wallet. And that's what I

1659
01:49:30,060 --> 01:49:33,780
used to pay for stuff and why do
I love it? I don't have to think

1660
01:49:33,780 --> 01:49:37,440
about the liquidity ever. It's
just there.

1661
01:49:40,830 --> 01:49:43,890
Yeah, yeah, I guess Yeah, I
guess you're right.

1662
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:48,030
Well, I just we have so much to
do and I know you just I know

1663
01:49:48,030 --> 01:49:53,130
you as much you hate as much as
I do. It goes like this. Post a

1664
01:49:53,130 --> 01:49:59,700
picture. Your shirts broken.
Yeah. And you look at it and

1665
01:49:59,700 --> 01:50:02,460
like well Well, you know that
you gotta go through the dance,

1666
01:50:02,460 --> 01:50:05,070
you know what app you're using
where you're boosting from, you

1667
01:50:05,070 --> 01:50:07,770
gotta look, where's your it's
just like, it's all good, I

1668
01:50:07,770 --> 01:50:11,100
think it's going to get solved.
I mean, everything points

1669
01:50:11,100 --> 01:50:18,750
towards liquidity being managed
in an in a, in a self sovereign

1670
01:50:18,750 --> 01:50:22,440
way, that you'll just be renting
liquidity, but it's still your

1671
01:50:22,440 --> 01:50:25,440
keys, you own the transaction
power, etc.

1672
01:50:26,130 --> 01:50:29,940
Yeah. And if your liquidity
provider bails or something, you

1673
01:50:29,940 --> 01:50:34,050
just go get another one. Yeah,
that makes sense. I guess

1674
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:37,830
this is building out so fast. I
mean, I wish I wish I had time

1675
01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:41,970
to learn to code. Because I had
this. Every day I wake up,

1676
01:50:41,970 --> 01:50:47,940
there's another, I was listening
to some podcast. And this is

1677
01:50:47,940 --> 01:50:50,340
actually may be the stuff that
reminded me of, I think, what

1678
01:50:50,340 --> 01:50:54,570
happened to Sphinx, maybe they
were getting into this. And as a

1679
01:50:54,570 --> 01:50:59,310
company that's now going to
electricity providers. So like,

1680
01:50:59,310 --> 01:51:02,970
go to the co op here. And their
pitch is would you like to get

1681
01:51:02,970 --> 01:51:07,590
your money faster? Yeah, and
they all go Yeah, because

1682
01:51:07,590 --> 01:51:12,030
they're dealing with, you know,
month long turnaround times,

1683
01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:15,720
risk of people not paying after
30 days and not being able to

1684
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:19,710
pay. And so they're doing in
essence value for value

1685
01:51:19,710 --> 01:51:24,810
streaming of Satoshis for for
megawatts, or for kilowatts, or

1686
01:51:24,810 --> 01:51:29,160
for watts. And well, and so
yeah, so you fill up your, you

1687
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:35,460
fill up your energy wallet. And
at the, you know, every single

1688
01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:39,300
watt, I guess, every watt that
you your whatever, I guess the

1689
01:51:39,300 --> 01:51:42,630
VA, that's gonna want to be
kilowatts, every kilowatt that

1690
01:51:42,630 --> 01:51:47,790
you use, you pay your eight 910
cents in SATs at the market

1691
01:51:47,790 --> 01:51:54,060
price at that moment, at the at
the moment, you use it as an

1692
01:51:54,060 --> 01:51:58,890
instant clip, and it cuts out
five steps in between. Because

1693
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,190
along the way, they've basically
seen that you can do splits,

1694
01:52:02,550 --> 01:52:05,220
because it's not just the
electricity provider, you know,

1695
01:52:05,220 --> 01:52:08,520
there's all these different
pieces down the line, including

1696
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:11,430
where your coop gets their
electricity from, so you can

1697
01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:15,450
split it all off right away and
strip out. I think they

1698
01:52:15,450 --> 01:52:20,850
calculated between 10 and 15%
money that's just lost that

1699
01:52:20,850 --> 01:52:24,270
ultimately, you're paying for as
a customer, because of the

1700
01:52:24,270 --> 01:52:29,280
inefficiencies of the system. So
I just wake up in the middle of

1701
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:33,930
the night with these ideas, and
my urges to call you and I think

1702
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,240
oh no, we already have a great
project going What am I doing?

1703
01:52:37,710 --> 01:52:40,020
I got a great idea. Let's do
energy.

1704
01:52:40,590 --> 01:52:44,250
All I want. My life will be
perfect. If you too. Dave Jones

1705
01:52:44,430 --> 01:52:48,360
could retire from corporate
life. Everything else is fine

1706
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:48,750
for me.

1707
01:52:49,710 --> 01:52:51,240
Yeah, work.

1708
01:52:52,380 --> 01:52:55,560
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Happy Thanksgiving to you my

1709
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,050
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1710
01:52:58,050 --> 01:53:03,300
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1711
01:53:03,300 --> 01:53:06,690
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