1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,640 No, it's not an Oh, it's an Oh, 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,070 Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 3 00:00:05,310 --> 00:00:09,360 Sunday, January 29 2017. This is your award winning nation media 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,610 assassination episode eight, nine or nine. 5 00:00:11,820 --> 00:00:15,240 This is no agenda sliding between 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,810 parallel universes with ease and broadcasting live in the darkest 7 00:00:18,810 --> 00:00:21,690 corners of the United right here in downtown Austin Tejas in the 8 00:00:21,690 --> 00:00:23,640 morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 9 00:00:24,300 --> 00:00:27,150 and from Northern Silicon Valley where I've got my duck call. 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,530 John C. Dvorak. Levin Buzzkill. 11 00:00:34,410 --> 00:00:35,490 Karaoke, 12 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:36,660 that was exciting. 13 00:00:36,660 --> 00:00:44,010 That was yes, riveting, really. Bon giorno. Hey, I'm speaking to 14 00:00:44,010 --> 00:00:48,150 tele Bon giorno. Yay, speaking Italian. My Italian nephew was 15 00:00:48,150 --> 00:00:52,920 in town visiting me. Matteo. You guys gone on beaten some thugs? 16 00:00:53,010 --> 00:00:56,190 Let's see what we've done. We did the typical go to a music 17 00:00:56,190 --> 00:01:00,300 store and buy a guitar. Buy an election you know, play Stairway 18 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:04,680 to Heaven a lot. And then buy a guitar. That's an Austin staple. 19 00:01:05,220 --> 00:01:06,630 You can play Stairway to Heaven. 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,720 He's a very good guitarist, actual electric corded. 21 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:11,550 I favorite song? Yeah. 22 00:01:13,980 --> 00:01:15,930 That's your favorite song? I don't think so. It's 23 00:01:15,930 --> 00:01:20,040 the song. If everyone ever goes floating around with me, we go 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,770 to a bar. There's a piano bar. There's a guy playing guitar. I 25 00:01:22,770 --> 00:01:26,490 always give them five bucks. If they play Stairway to Heaven. It 26 00:01:26,490 --> 00:01:28,320 always brings the house down. 27 00:01:28,350 --> 00:01:32,010 It's true though. And you often sing along with with Stairway to 28 00:01:32,010 --> 00:01:33,510 Heaven. Hello, 29 00:01:33,570 --> 00:01:41,070 hello. Hello. Stairway to Heaven. On the students. 30 00:01:43,710 --> 00:01:48,090 And yesterday we went to the shooting range and yeah, so he's 31 00:01:48,090 --> 00:01:50,160 getting a full on taste of Texas. 32 00:01:50,370 --> 00:01:54,120 The pinched off a few rounds pinched off quite a few we 33 00:01:54,150 --> 00:01:58,860 tossed some brass is what we did. But you know, this kid is 34 00:01:58,860 --> 00:02:02,640 smart. He's 19. And you said maybe I would get lucky and I 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,590 would get a run down to millennial rundown on what's 36 00:02:04,590 --> 00:02:07,170 happening in Italy. Hello, I did. 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,270 I'm all ears. Yeah. 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:16,110 Well, it's not good. The his generation pretty much sees 39 00:02:16,110 --> 00:02:19,920 everybody older than them as people who only care about one 40 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:24,720 thing and one thing only for all of Italy. pillory, now football, 41 00:02:24,870 --> 00:02:28,920 soccer for US Soccer. They do not give a crap about anything 42 00:02:28,950 --> 00:02:31,860 as long as they're soccer on TV. Everything's good. 43 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,310 The kids are the adults, the adults, the adults are the kid. 44 00:02:35,340 --> 00:02:37,410 That makes sense. That's what they've been trying. That's what 45 00:02:37,410 --> 00:02:39,870 the whole new world order has been trying to promote soccer in 46 00:02:39,870 --> 00:02:43,800 the United States for right. Yeah. Same way. Well, 47 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,900 that's a good point. I even thought about the soccer angle 48 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:49,650 to it. Oh, so I said, Well, yeah. How about the economy? 49 00:02:49,650 --> 00:02:51,840 What's going on? What do you guys think he's not? Well, we're 50 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,840 screwed to What do you mean? Well, he, the kids know very 51 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,250 well, that the only money that comes into Italy is from the 52 00:02:59,250 --> 00:03:03,000 European Central Bank. And the main reason they get a lot of 53 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,990 money is because of their main business model in Italy, which 54 00:03:06,990 --> 00:03:12,060 is migrants. Everybody wants migrants because that's the only 55 00:03:12,060 --> 00:03:15,690 way we get money from the EU. And that money flows right into 56 00:03:15,690 --> 00:03:18,840 the economy, then we've discussed this, where and you 57 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,010 know, if you want to be if you got a house, or if you want to 58 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:28,620 set up a living quarters, etc, for migrants, you get 45 Euros 59 00:03:28,620 --> 00:03:32,310 per day per migrant, to do that. And you know, from that you give 60 00:03:32,310 --> 00:03:35,400 a couple shekels to the migrants. And the rest is a 61 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:41,700 business model. But that is not the thing that that I found most 62 00:03:41,700 --> 00:03:43,650 either like a very good economy 63 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,820 does or doesn't, doesn't Why 64 00:03:47,820 --> 00:03:49,710 would I sell a good economy a stock course 65 00:03:49,710 --> 00:03:52,230 not. So I said, Well, what's going on with the economy? We 66 00:03:52,230 --> 00:03:55,860 said, well, you mean we obviously have olive oil? We 67 00:03:55,860 --> 00:03:59,850 have wine although we said wow level Yeah. Wait, wait. He said 68 00:04:00,060 --> 00:04:02,580 this is a 19 year old kid who really knows what's happening in 69 00:04:02,580 --> 00:04:05,580 his country. I was very impressed. He said but wine 70 00:04:05,610 --> 00:04:08,250 we're going down the tubes because California now has the 71 00:04:08,250 --> 00:04:13,170 exact right conditions that rival Kiante a you would know 72 00:04:13,170 --> 00:04:15,870 better than I John but he says that's that seems to be 73 00:04:15,870 --> 00:04:19,590 problematic that they can't compete anymore with California 74 00:04:19,590 --> 00:04:26,310 wines. Ah, is that uh are you disagreeing? vehemently 75 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:29,010 disagree? Okay. Well, I'm, I'm just saying what he says. But 76 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:37,140 here's the number one problem. He says. The Chinese Oh, yeah. 77 00:04:37,140 --> 00:04:40,800 He says this Chinese Yeah, yeah. That says the Chinese are buying 78 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:48,180 up the following. Football clubs. Milan, Inter. They're 79 00:04:48,180 --> 00:04:52,590 buying up the olive oil companies. And they're buying up 80 00:04:52,620 --> 00:04:57,090 almost every single fashion brand, Dolce Gabbana all of them 81 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:04,770 being bought up by the Chinese I mean, does that mean the Chinese 82 00:05:04,770 --> 00:05:07,170 kind of view it leads to more to Africa? 83 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:12,150 Apparently, yeah. We'll build some roads too. 84 00:05:13,559 --> 00:05:16,679 Yeah. And all the kids see? And they're like, Yeah, well, okay, 85 00:05:16,709 --> 00:05:19,109 so they all want to leave, now want to get out, 86 00:05:19,859 --> 00:05:22,709 but they're gonna go. They're Italians are in Italy. 87 00:05:22,740 --> 00:05:26,700 Well, he's lucky, he has dual citizenship. Now, Willow did a 88 00:05:26,700 --> 00:05:30,840 really good job. But she spent, I think, better portion of a 89 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:34,050 year, getting all the forms and everything because she's 90 00:05:34,050 --> 00:05:37,650 American, but they were both born in Italy. And she got went 91 00:05:37,650 --> 00:05:39,960 through all the trouble and she got them dual citizenship. They 92 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,090 even had the, you know, do the little ceremony and wave the 93 00:05:42,090 --> 00:05:47,070 flag. And yes, I'm now citizen. So they have lots of they have 94 00:05:47,070 --> 00:05:49,710 rights to come in here if they want to. 95 00:05:53,490 --> 00:05:55,410 Which brings us to the topic at hand. 96 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:02,130 Okay. Yeah. And I was gonna say something. Actually, before we 97 00:06:02,130 --> 00:06:05,640 start, you know, we've been talking a lot about parallel 98 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,600 universes. And again, there's just tons and tons of examples 99 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,340 of people using these words in their speech. In fact, let me 100 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:18,690 just start with Christiana on poor, who just rolls it out. As 101 00:06:18,690 --> 00:06:19,710 usual. I look 102 00:06:19,770 --> 00:06:23,400 seriously. Steve Bannon is playing the role that he set out 103 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,100 for himself. There is obviously some kind of strategy here, 104 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:28,590 although it's hard for me to comprehend it. Because, you 105 00:06:28,590 --> 00:06:31,530 know, I operate in the truth and the fact based Universe, 106 00:06:32,310 --> 00:06:36,120 she operates in the truth and fact base universe, then it's 107 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,580 getting interesting how this is in the lexicon now. But there, 108 00:06:41,730 --> 00:06:44,310 there is a parallel universe. And I have proof and it's 109 00:06:44,370 --> 00:06:47,190 frightening to me. And it should be frightening to you, as well, 110 00:06:47,190 --> 00:06:51,360 John, you know how in a lot of these parallel universe parallel 111 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,070 worlds multiverse theories, there is another Adam curry 112 00:06:56,220 --> 00:07:01,260 doing a show, maybe it's a it's a completely different type of 113 00:07:01,260 --> 00:07:04,410 show a different angle, but there could be multiple, and we 114 00:07:04,410 --> 00:07:10,500 have captured and a different version of either you or me. In 115 00:07:10,500 --> 00:07:11,520 a different universe. 116 00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:18,630 It's just not it's just a daily code source. No. Which would be 117 00:07:18,630 --> 00:07:22,860 the alternate version of your show. No, no, this is agenda. 118 00:07:22,860 --> 00:07:23,430 No, 119 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:29,040 this is from the twit network. Padre SJ 120 00:07:29,070 --> 00:07:32,400 another hour, listen to the best podcast in the universe. That's 121 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,890 according to nine out of 10 virtual machines that you've 122 00:07:34,890 --> 00:07:37,320 used up another hour. Listen to the best podcast in the 123 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,260 universe. That's according to nine out of 10 GIS filters seem 124 00:07:40,260 --> 00:07:42,120 to the best podcast in the universe. 125 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,270 Apparently, this alternative universe has been going on for a 126 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:46,800 while and he is us. 127 00:07:50,820 --> 00:07:52,170 Well, he needs to lose some weight. 128 00:07:54,930 --> 00:07:57,780 Okay. I thought it was a little frightening. 129 00:07:59,220 --> 00:08:01,860 I saw the little Twitter thing going back and forth between you 130 00:08:01,860 --> 00:08:02,220 two. 131 00:08:02,550 --> 00:08:04,950 No, I wasn't I wasn't tweeting him. Someone else was tweeting. 132 00:08:04,980 --> 00:08:05,940 I had nothing to do with it. 133 00:08:06,780 --> 00:08:09,090 I thought you tweeted him or sent him something saying yeah, 134 00:08:09,090 --> 00:08:11,130 it's okay. You can use our moniker. 135 00:08:11,610 --> 00:08:15,240 No, I didn't. There's no such thing and no he's not because it 136 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,180 was your alter ego. Yeah, it's not okay for him to do that. 137 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,180 What happens without shalt not steal Hmm. 138 00:08:25,170 --> 00:08:29,190 So he's been using best podcast in the universe? Yes. And since 139 00:08:29,190 --> 00:08:29,760 when? 140 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,930 That not before us, and He also claims that we stole it from 141 00:08:33,930 --> 00:08:37,020 him. It's not even possible. 142 00:08:37,980 --> 00:08:41,580 It is in the multiverse. John, anything is possible. 143 00:08:43,470 --> 00:08:46,470 So I got into a little Twitter thing with going back and forth 144 00:08:46,470 --> 00:08:54,060 with I found I found a number of good examples of this. With Jay 145 00:08:54,060 --> 00:08:54,690 Rosen, 146 00:08:55,170 --> 00:08:57,270 you are going back and forth with Jay Rosen. 147 00:08:57,690 --> 00:09:00,270 Jay Rosen. So gay guy call him out at something he's over 148 00:09:00,270 --> 00:09:01,380 tweeting something. 149 00:09:02,580 --> 00:09:05,400 Are you the Twitter police? Hey, hey, Rosen. You're over 150 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:05,940 tweeting. 151 00:09:06,450 --> 00:09:11,430 Tell us what he said. He says, you have this he says you have 152 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:14,790 the soul of a cop. Oh, 153 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:16,650 that's fighting words. And I'm 154 00:09:16,650 --> 00:09:20,880 thinking in the two universes I guess on his universe, which he 155 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,520 was on that other side. He's over on the globalist side. 156 00:09:23,790 --> 00:09:25,230 That's where I've divided it up 157 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,600 Yeah, so that no no but no nations no borders universe 158 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:33,330 no nation has no borders. Yeah, that's a good borders no nations 159 00:09:33,330 --> 00:09:36,240 is the way that is no borders no nations. Okay. Yeah, yeah. And 160 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,880 so he that would be an insult but on the other side, it would 161 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:39,840 be a compliment 162 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:43,920 yes, if Yeah, of course if that's yeah, for the for 163 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,160 you could say that. You have the soul of a cop and I could see it 164 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,980 being interpreted as In fact, I think as I was going to tweet 165 00:09:49,980 --> 00:09:55,470 back, thanks for the insults slash compliment straddling the 166 00:09:55,470 --> 00:09:58,890 two universes which which what we tried to do on this show, 167 00:09:59,070 --> 00:10:04,740 well, what was that? had in mind. I will read a note. Okay, 168 00:10:04,770 --> 00:10:06,870 but one of the guys who quit the show? 169 00:10:07,260 --> 00:10:10,830 Oh, yes, we've had a number of these once again. Yeah. 170 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,890 And it's always one thing or another a lot of it is pent up 171 00:10:13,890 --> 00:10:17,280 hostility toward the show because we we refuse to budge on 172 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:23,010 a number of points global warming being one of them mainly 173 00:10:23,010 --> 00:10:25,860 and I will just reiterate global warming the whole concept 174 00:10:25,860 --> 00:10:31,050 everything is based on a computer model. And I'm on the 175 00:10:31,050 --> 00:10:34,620 ocean and there's no sea rising. I've got mud floods right here, 176 00:10:34,620 --> 00:10:37,650 I can visually see. It hasn't changed for 100 years. So 177 00:10:37,650 --> 00:10:40,980 where's the rising tides? I like to think they heard that excuse 178 00:10:40,980 --> 00:10:43,560 recently. Oh, it turns out there's no rising tides in the 179 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:47,460 Pacific because Australia is acting like a giant sponge. 180 00:10:47,550 --> 00:10:48,390 Remember that story? 181 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,450 You know, there was also an article that came out a Dutch 182 00:10:51,450 --> 00:10:55,860 scientific article that says global warming can also actually 183 00:10:55,860 --> 00:11:01,620 produce lowering of sea level. Isn't this great? It's like you 184 00:11:01,620 --> 00:11:04,140 damned if you do damned if you don't, if whatever it is, we're 185 00:11:04,140 --> 00:11:07,680 all gonna die. And that's another you know, that's the new 186 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:12,180 scientific. Just just what you do, hey, it's not going my way. 187 00:11:13,110 --> 00:11:15,840 It's part of the globalist agenda because it's even got the 188 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:21,270 word global in it. People are like we, you know, we are 189 00:11:21,270 --> 00:11:25,530 fighting against a machine. Yes, we're single hand the single how 190 00:11:25,530 --> 00:11:28,230 to two of us. Two of us are fighting against the giant 191 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:30,960 machine. And we have a lot of listeners, there's no doubt 192 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,400 about that. But they also get mostly subjected to the machine. 193 00:11:35,550 --> 00:11:37,680 And the machine is better than we are because there's many 194 00:11:37,830 --> 00:11:38,280 bigger 195 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:45,300 and the machine is nipping at our heels. I looked at the 196 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:48,120 spreadsheet today. And of course, you know, the the common 197 00:11:48,180 --> 00:11:51,060 common we get it will if you stop being the trim protection 198 00:11:51,060 --> 00:11:54,690 podcast, maybe your donations will go up. I just, I'm gonna 199 00:11:54,690 --> 00:11:59,820 speak on my behalf. We have been doing the same thing. With the 200 00:11:59,820 --> 00:12:03,600 same attitude. Of course, the show has changed. And if it's 201 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,020 not sustainable, first of all, I'm not getting any checks from 202 00:12:07,020 --> 00:12:10,680 anybody, except for you. And if that's going to dry up we have 203 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:13,350 to go find something else to do. I'm not going to compromise 204 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,100 is with great sadness and a feeling of real district Scott 205 00:12:17,130 --> 00:12:20,280 am the great sadness and a feeling of real loss that I 206 00:12:20,310 --> 00:12:23,190 unsubscribe from your email list. This is after I sent out 207 00:12:23,190 --> 00:12:26,100 one of the best emails ever according to most people. Yeah. 208 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:26,310 Which 209 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:29,400 of course brought in very low donate. Oh, no, never the good. 210 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,650 The good stuff. Never friends letters, 211 00:12:31,740 --> 00:12:32,580 no response. 212 00:12:32,730 --> 00:12:36,030 The ones that get big donations is subject line. Hey, 213 00:12:36,630 --> 00:12:39,060 hey, hey. Okay. 214 00:12:39,420 --> 00:12:42,960 When we give actual content, actual content, nah, not so 215 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:43,710 much. And so 216 00:12:43,710 --> 00:12:46,350 then he then he goes, because you see these guys, they were 217 00:12:46,350 --> 00:12:50,280 just a subtle, repressed anger or something because it goes 218 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:50,640 like this. 219 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,720 It's not even subtle. John, it every line starts with, I'm 220 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,330 quitting. I'm out on leave 221 00:12:57,630 --> 00:13:01,260 out. Let me read it. In truth. This is a good one. In truth. 222 00:13:01,290 --> 00:13:05,520 I've never opened that many of your emails, although I did 223 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,230 enjoy the ones I read or read. So I have also cancelled my 224 00:13:10,230 --> 00:13:13,350 subscription to the show. I will miss you, John. I have been a 225 00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:16,590 fan since I heard you on twit I can still remember the show and 226 00:13:16,590 --> 00:13:20,490 you guys came up with the name. I think I was using podcast 227 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,570 pickle at the time. I stopped listening to all those shows, I 228 00:13:24,570 --> 00:13:27,930 subscribe to all about Android twig because I didn't like how 229 00:13:27,930 --> 00:13:31,140 you were treated near the end. And I thought that not only were 230 00:13:31,140 --> 00:13:34,620 you treated with disrespect, but that Leo condoned it. I think 231 00:13:34,620 --> 00:13:37,260 Leo and some of the other younger people owe you a great 232 00:13:37,260 --> 00:13:41,580 deal for helping to pave the way for them enough of that. Why am 233 00:13:41,580 --> 00:13:45,420 I quitting the show? There are several reasons. Reason number 234 00:13:45,420 --> 00:13:50,220 one, reliable warming. I don't really care whether you believe 235 00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:53,100 in global warming or not. The truth is that we're making an 236 00:13:53,100 --> 00:13:57,630 unbelievable mess of this little ball we live on, we may stop or 237 00:13:57,630 --> 00:14:03,330 most of us will die. Either way, the results will be the same to 238 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:10,080 guns. I'm Canadian, I've used guns. I've used them to target 239 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,590 shoot and kill things. Both of these things I did with long 240 00:14:13,590 --> 00:14:17,400 guns. I don't see the need for handguns other than for law 241 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,790 enforcement, et cetera. The proliferation of small 242 00:14:20,790 --> 00:14:24,870 concealable guns just these two more dead people. If you want to 243 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:28,050 protect yourself, your home, nothing works better than a 12 244 00:14:28,050 --> 00:14:29,280 gauge shotgun pretty much 245 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:35,760 what I've always said. Haven't we said this forever. A shotgun 246 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,840 is the best the shell goes. Joe Biden says that you point in the 247 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,460 general direction is always going to be 248 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:45,240 but but his complaint is here, because he ends it in 249 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,180 the press. This is repressed there's something going on with 250 00:14:48,210 --> 00:14:49,500 his personal life. 251 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:55,200 Three, this is the one Trump enough Trump already tell that 252 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,710 to the mainstream media. I stayed with us through the 253 00:14:58,710 --> 00:15:04,170 election. I wish you had At the same time limit, we do the non 254 00:15:04,170 --> 00:15:07,200 US segments of the show are so few and far between that, 255 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,320 frankly, I lost interest. And we wanted more Canadian news. Yeah, 256 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,850 I know it's important even for Canada, but enough already. My 257 00:15:14,850 --> 00:15:18,420 biggest concern is that I think you've become an echo chamber 258 00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:23,040 have to Oh, yeah. Maybe just maybe not all the people that 259 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,800 have left in the last six months, because you were Hillary 260 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,540 supporters. Were Hillary because they were Hillary supporters. 261 00:15:31,050 --> 00:15:34,440 Maybe the show just wasn't meeting their needs anymore. I 262 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,320 know, I've been an infrequent financial support. And all the 263 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,560 months that we're on that boils it down, in all the months that 264 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,500 the focus has been your election. I felt it wasn't 265 00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:46,620 necessary. I took the time to write this because I hope it's 266 00:15:46,620 --> 00:15:50,550 helpful. I wish you Adam and your families all the best value 267 00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:53,610 joy, health and happiness if you ever had in Victoria BC meetup, 268 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,920 I'd be very grateful for the chance to meet you. 269 00:15:55,950 --> 00:15:59,640 You're banned. You're banned. You're banned. Now he 270 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,530 took himself off the mailing list. How am I supposed to get a 271 00:16:01,530 --> 00:16:04,200 hold of him? Right. Thanks for all the years of listening. I 272 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:10,500 will check in in the future. S. Scott M and Sydney. BC. So you 273 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:14,340 know, I was disappointing. Yeah. I mean, you know, if you don't 274 00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:16,170 want to this is just you, I don't know you have to send 275 00:16:16,170 --> 00:16:19,110 these notes are actually kind of subversion. Now 276 00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:21,630 those notes are and I don't want to talk about it. Actually, I'm 277 00:16:21,630 --> 00:16:24,810 kind of done. But those those notes are meant to engage you. 278 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,420 If they're actually I believe that actually trying to get you 279 00:16:27,420 --> 00:16:30,960 to say, Yeah, you're right. We should do you know, talk about 280 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,980 long guns and Canada and no, Trump, that, you know, hey, and 281 00:16:34,980 --> 00:16:37,530 I think I reply to him, Hey, man, you should do a podcast. 282 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:38,340 It's easy. 283 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,250 That's, that's always a good, cheap. 284 00:16:45,510 --> 00:16:48,330 Moving back into, there's something else going on with 285 00:16:48,330 --> 00:16:53,850 this parallel universe. We are in a fractal, a repetition. Of 286 00:16:53,850 --> 00:16:59,580 course, fractals are repetitive. We can almost predict everything 287 00:16:59,580 --> 00:17:03,570 that is going to happen, because it started with Oh, yes, we're 288 00:17:03,570 --> 00:17:08,280 living in the times of 1984. Now, you'll recall that we were 289 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,490 discussing this book, maybe eight years ago, of course, it's 290 00:17:11,490 --> 00:17:15,480 not like a new book. And we were comparing it to what was 291 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:20,370 happening at the time. And now we have people. So I think that, 292 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:25,260 you know, obviously, we have quite a list of books that are 293 00:17:25,260 --> 00:17:30,210 poor parallels to the time we felt, certainly in the past 10 294 00:17:30,210 --> 00:17:33,870 years. I don't know if that's changed. But when you hear what 295 00:17:33,870 --> 00:17:36,750 is going on in in the meat in the corporate media, 296 00:17:36,930 --> 00:17:39,870 well listen to this right now. Number one, it's been number one 297 00:17:39,870 --> 00:17:41,040 for a few days. This is a 298 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,190 1984 being the number one book on Amazon, which I think is also 299 00:17:44,190 --> 00:17:45,870 demonstrably not true, but it doesn't 300 00:17:45,870 --> 00:17:48,540 matter right now to number one. It's been number one for a few 301 00:17:48,540 --> 00:17:51,600 days now. And it's actually sold out on Amazon. So the publisher 302 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,770 Penguin, more copies of the book. And the reason why people 303 00:17:55,770 --> 00:17:58,950 are associating alternative facts with 1984 is because in 304 00:17:58,950 --> 00:18:01,320 that book all about Big Brother and surveillance, there's this 305 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,400 idea of Newspeak war is actually peace, that famine is actually 306 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,090 faced the idea that words and language are manipulated by this 307 00:18:09,090 --> 00:18:12,270 all powerful ruler, so obviously lots of differences between them 308 00:18:12,270 --> 00:18:15,360 the fake book, and now that fictional book is resonating 309 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:18,390 with lots of people. It's not the only one. Today on Amazon 310 00:18:18,450 --> 00:18:20,670 Sinclair Lewis says it can't happen here 311 00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:25,530 now. Okay, so let's just predict garden of the beast will be the 312 00:18:25,530 --> 00:18:28,050 next one that will be selling like hotcakes. I mean, these are 313 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:34,140 all the books on the no agenda, no agenda book club. And POPPY 314 00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:39,330 HARLOW, who is listening to this, she is not have to say, an 315 00:18:39,330 --> 00:18:39,840 idiot 316 00:18:39,930 --> 00:18:42,780 about a fascist takeover of the United States is actually number 317 00:18:42,780 --> 00:18:46,230 four. Maybe it'll creep up to number three and join 1984 on 318 00:18:46,230 --> 00:18:49,110 the list. A few other books with similar themes are all on the 319 00:18:49,110 --> 00:18:51,960 Amazon bestsellers list. This is clearly at least in part a 320 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,110 reaction to Trump's presidency. I would assume mostly liberal 321 00:18:55,110 --> 00:18:57,900 readers buying these books wanting to read these fictional 322 00:18:57,900 --> 00:19:02,040 stories about what can happen in a place like France. Better. 323 00:19:02,250 --> 00:19:02,700 What's that? 324 00:19:02,730 --> 00:19:06,030 Do we know if any iron Rand What an idiot 325 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,820 is good? It's clearly has 326 00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:11,460 never read Atlas Shrugged. You'd never say that. 327 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,690 I'm looking at the Amazon site right now. There are plenty of 328 00:19:15,690 --> 00:19:20,100 copies of it. 1984 available. It's not sold out, 329 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:23,700 of course. But do you see what's happening is like all these 330 00:19:23,700 --> 00:19:25,680 things that we discussed when there was a different 331 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,190 administration are coming back almost in sequential order. 332 00:19:29,700 --> 00:19:32,250 Yeah, is where I'd pretty much the same order. It's true. 333 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:38,040 It's It's baffling. That's why I say garden garden of the beast. 334 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,600 What are the books that we have 335 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,730 by the way the night they really can't happen? Here's about a 336 00:19:41,730 --> 00:19:44,700 socialist government taking over not fascist. I 337 00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:46,530 know that's what so why do 338 00:19:46,530 --> 00:19:49,080 you switch? Why do you want to switch that? They're talking 339 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,920 about alternative facts. Fact Check false. 340 00:19:53,370 --> 00:19:57,690 Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's getting it's getting kind of 341 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,650 kind of kooky and then this has to be just my favorite thing 342 00:20:01,860 --> 00:20:06,090 that was done. I mean, everybody is, you know, of course, we have 343 00:20:06,090 --> 00:20:09,960 all this worry about Donald Trump. And we might as well 344 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,390 throw some scientists in there. They got the big March for 345 00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:15,750 Science coming up, I believe, and everyone's gonna participate 346 00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:20,610 with Neil deGrasse. And, and Bill Nye up front, it'll be the 347 00:20:20,610 --> 00:20:23,970 leaders of this movement, I'm sure. And, of course, we had 348 00:20:23,970 --> 00:20:24,450 this happen, 349 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,300 the board concludes in no uncertain terms that words 350 00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:31,080 matter in ensuring the safety and security of our planet. Can 351 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,220 you guess what this is? 352 00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:37,740 This is some bull crap about global warming and 97% of all 353 00:20:37,740 --> 00:20:39,720 scientists in the world. This is 354 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,150 the Greek This is the doomsday clock. 355 00:20:42,180 --> 00:20:45,300 They are not the same as Oh, yeah. But they matter a lot, 356 00:20:45,450 --> 00:20:48,990 especially when the risks of accident and miscalculation are 357 00:20:48,990 --> 00:20:53,040 so high. The first has been the Cavalier and reckless language 358 00:20:53,070 --> 00:20:56,340 used across the globe, especially in the United States 359 00:20:56,370 --> 00:20:59,910 during the presidential election and after around nuclear weapons 360 00:20:59,910 --> 00:21:03,600 and nuclear threats. And the second is a growing disregard of 361 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,040 scientific expertise, expertise that is needed when it comes to 362 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,280 responding to pressing global challenges, including climate 363 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,120 change. The board takes the unprecedented step, the first 364 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:19,440 time in its history, moving the clock hand, 30 seconds closer to 365 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,920 midnight, no day we moved, the clock never moved the other way 366 00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:26,910 to midnight. It is now two and a half minutes to midnight, 367 00:21:26,970 --> 00:21:29,520 two and a half minutes to midnight. 368 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,120 This is the same bull crap clock that there was going to kill us 369 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:36,270 all if they remember in the 70s during The Population Bomb. 370 00:21:36,270 --> 00:21:36,810 Well, no, 371 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,810 no, I don't. So I What was it the same clock? 372 00:21:40,260 --> 00:21:44,730 No, it was a clock very similar. It was a couple of minutes it 373 00:21:44,730 --> 00:21:49,620 was gonna it was gonna hit midnight at the year 2000. Well, 374 00:21:49,620 --> 00:21:50,340 that didn't happen. 375 00:21:50,370 --> 00:21:57,000 But it didn't because of y2k and it jumped back to 1970 should 376 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:57,870 have at 377 00:21:58,590 --> 00:22:00,750 the age of gate took us back to 1900. 378 00:22:00,780 --> 00:22:05,790 So the doomsday clock that is a if I if I understand correctly, 379 00:22:05,790 --> 00:22:10,680 is a project of the atomic scientist, I think because they 380 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,880 keep the atomic time 381 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:17,130 Yes, sir. Concern to scientists? I think it's concerns I look it 382 00:22:17,130 --> 00:22:18,870 up. Concerned Scientists should 383 00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:20,730 know we should look at that. Certainly. 384 00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:24,240 Concerned atomic scientist, 385 00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:29,280 let me see doomsday clock, I thought it was the guy the 386 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,360 atomic guys. 387 00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:34,500 Like could be a concern to try some concerned bigger but 388 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:36,240 they're concerned these people 389 00:22:36,270 --> 00:22:39,390 know, there's lots of concerns. Let's see, here we go, has been 390 00:22:39,390 --> 00:22:41,820 maintained by the members of the Bulletin of the Atomic 391 00:22:41,820 --> 00:22:46,230 Scientists science. Concerned atomic scientists, the Bulletin 392 00:22:46,290 --> 00:22:49,440 of the Atomic Scientists, science and Security Board, who 393 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,740 in turn are advised by the governing board and the board of 394 00:22:52,740 --> 00:22:59,100 sponsors, which includes 18 Nobel Laureates. This is 395 00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:01,830 science. This is serious, guys. Man, you can't question that. 396 00:23:01,949 --> 00:23:03,449 I have a question. Okay. 397 00:23:04,379 --> 00:23:06,059 I just said you can't question that. 398 00:23:06,179 --> 00:23:09,899 If there's two and a half minutes left. Yeah. What is the 399 00:23:09,929 --> 00:23:12,929 what is the overall what measurements are we dealing with 400 00:23:12,929 --> 00:23:14,459 two and a half minutes already happened? 401 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,620 Okay, yeah, it's clearly it's you under 402 00:23:19,620 --> 00:23:23,010 Select. What's the two and a half min? What in what universe 403 00:23:23,010 --> 00:23:26,970 is this tune as it is one minute? 100 years? One minute. 404 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,810 Is there not a saying it's two minutes to midnight? 405 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,570 That a song? I think its name has nothing to do with 406 00:23:36,570 --> 00:23:37,290 Cinderella. 407 00:23:38,190 --> 00:23:42,900 No, it has something to do with. I know there's an Iron Maiden 408 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:45,210 song, of course, but two minutes to midnight. I thought that that 409 00:23:45,210 --> 00:23:50,490 was oh, here it is. Let's see. No, that's also just so I 410 00:23:50,490 --> 00:23:57,240 thought pick it Iron Maiden, an Iron Maiden saw anyway, but it's 411 00:23:57,420 --> 00:24:03,540 just more of the same. Be afraid be very, very afraid. Afraid. 412 00:24:03,570 --> 00:24:07,770 Very afraid. Everything that's happening. So wrap yourself. 413 00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:12,360 Although I do have clips. I also spend and I'm very happy. I 414 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:16,170 spent a little bit of time going through the executive orders, 415 00:24:16,170 --> 00:24:19,230 the presidential memoranda, everything that has been 416 00:24:19,230 --> 00:24:24,090 released so far. Man I have I've discovered some interesting 417 00:24:24,090 --> 00:24:29,070 things. New things have come to light has come to light. Man, 418 00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:32,280 I'm telling you for reals. But maybe we should start off with 419 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:38,910 the most recent news which kind of just came out of nowhere. And 420 00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:44,280 it was very evident to me within maybe 16 minutes, you know where 421 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,030 these airport demonstrations came from. And we also have a 422 00:24:48,030 --> 00:24:52,560 producer do we from DC, who was boots on the ground and went to 423 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,960 Dulles Airport and recorded some of the protesters that were 424 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,880 there. Oh, Yes. And I was quite telling actually, this is this 425 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,780 is a point for you. I think you will like, Would you like to run 426 00:25:06,780 --> 00:25:08,490 through a couple of these? Actually, I'll start with the 427 00:25:08,490 --> 00:25:09,000 one that is, 428 00:25:09,270 --> 00:25:12,000 well, let's before we do that, let's get the background is from 429 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,330 the big news networks. Good idea. So we have a little bit of 430 00:25:15,330 --> 00:25:17,760 this, you know, kind of, you know, kind of get a feeling for 431 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,300 the whole thing. I get to clubs, when you start with Trump's ban 432 00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:22,680 on CBS. 433 00:25:23,910 --> 00:25:29,040 Okay, Trump's Wow, your your upper lower case was fun today. 434 00:25:29,070 --> 00:25:29,460 All right, 435 00:25:29,490 --> 00:25:31,530 against terrorism. He said. 436 00:25:32,580 --> 00:25:35,010 President Trump's ban was announced on international 437 00:25:35,010 --> 00:25:38,910 Holocaust Remembrance Day. Oh, mine were quick to remember. And 438 00:25:38,910 --> 00:25:41,970 Frank, the young writer who was killed in a concentration camp 439 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,650 after the US denied her family a visa to escape Nazi Germany. 440 00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:51,990 Yeah, and it's a side. It's a side note. But you know, there's 441 00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:56,460 a lot of anger about this Holocaust Remembrance 442 00:25:56,460 --> 00:26:00,810 proclamation because the Jews were not specifically mentioned. 443 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,150 And that, of course, is an outrage. 444 00:26:03,870 --> 00:26:06,420 Well, there's a couple of things that I got a kick out of it. The 445 00:26:06,420 --> 00:26:08,790 next clip, by the way, is the fiasco with Kennedy and it will 446 00:26:08,790 --> 00:26:12,060 be done with that. But I do have to mention something about the 447 00:26:12,570 --> 00:26:15,150 about this Anne Frank thing, which they've all thrown in as a 448 00:26:15,150 --> 00:26:18,360 meme. Yeah, there's two interesting things I saw. By the 449 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:21,780 way, all the neighbors are still using the gold doors every time 450 00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:29,580 they show, Putin talked about Anne Frank, and they said she 451 00:26:29,580 --> 00:26:33,690 would have been if they refuse your entry, she could have she 452 00:26:33,690 --> 00:26:37,020 would have lived and become a great writer right now. Today, 453 00:26:37,020 --> 00:26:41,970 she'd be 79, who was doing this, who was saying This is Democracy 454 00:26:41,970 --> 00:26:45,480 Now, she's going on, and she would have been a great writer, 455 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,690 and she would have been 79 If she was allowed in the United 456 00:26:48,690 --> 00:26:51,660 States. Now there's, again, we have the duopoly here the two 457 00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:55,560 ways of looking at this one, this is terrible. This woman 458 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,290 could have been a great writer. And we're obviously the by 459 00:26:58,290 --> 00:27:03,000 keeping these refugees out. We are where we're hurting her 460 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,820 losing a lot of good writers that were you were eating for 461 00:27:05,820 --> 00:27:09,810 the sitcom we got to bring him in. The other one was the way I 462 00:27:09,810 --> 00:27:12,840 looked at it says, Oh, that was the Roosevelt a Democrat 463 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,500 administration, if I'm not mistaken, that kept and Frank 464 00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:20,760 and killed her. Oh, you could take it from both sides. Oh, 465 00:27:20,790 --> 00:27:23,010 wait, oh, tell me about the Roosevelt administration. What 466 00:27:23,010 --> 00:27:24,180 did they do to and fro? 467 00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:26,610 I refuse your entry in the United States when they applied 468 00:27:26,610 --> 00:27:29,640 for a visa? I did not know this. They tried to sneak Yes. This 469 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,820 was sold then, frankly, was all about. Anne Frank didn't 470 00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:35,910 document that she tried to get in the United States and the 471 00:27:35,910 --> 00:27:39,000 United States government. Franklin Roosevelt's Democratic 472 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:44,280 Party, that no, we don't want any extra Jews over here. But 473 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,210 they don't really know what 474 00:27:45,210 --> 00:27:47,040 it was for you. Really? 475 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:52,530 Yeah. What a dick. Yeah, totally. Oh, man. So So and 476 00:27:52,530 --> 00:27:55,320 Frank became kind of a meme, but only the one side of the meme 477 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,170 shows up in the mute mainstream media. And that side is the side 478 00:27:58,170 --> 00:28:01,140 that oh, you know, she's, it was terrible that they did that. Now 479 00:28:01,140 --> 00:28:05,370 Trump's doing the same thing, rather than looking at it fully 480 00:28:05,370 --> 00:28:07,920 objectively, and saying it was Roosevelt and the Democrats are 481 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,830 just as guilty, if not more, so it's Anne Frank. 482 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,000 Well, the accusation is, you didn't mention the Jews 483 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,060 specifically. Therefore, you're an anti Semite. And then the 484 00:28:18,060 --> 00:28:21,150 response from what I understand from the Trump administration 485 00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:24,750 was, well, they didn't just kill Jews, they killed gypsies and 486 00:28:24,750 --> 00:28:28,110 gays. And so we want to be inclusive. We want to be 487 00:28:28,110 --> 00:28:34,530 inclusive in our death notice, God, I mean, come on this. You 488 00:28:34,530 --> 00:28:35,850 can expect this. 489 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,030 All right, here we go. This is the fiasco at Kennedy and CBS 490 00:28:39,030 --> 00:28:39,810 again all right 491 00:28:39,810 --> 00:28:41,640 fiasco at the Kennedys were 492 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,540 detained. New York Congressman Jerry Nadler says all had valid 493 00:28:45,540 --> 00:28:48,750 visas, and were aboard flights with the executive order was 494 00:28:48,750 --> 00:28:52,350 signed more now from Kenneth Craig at Kennedy airport. 495 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,460 And as you can see, opponents quickly organized here at JFK 496 00:28:56,460 --> 00:29:00,210 Airport in New York, protests erupted as federal authorities 497 00:29:00,210 --> 00:29:05,310 scrambled to figure out how to enforce the ban. Supporters at 498 00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:08,940 JFK cheered as one of the two men detained overnight was 499 00:29:08,940 --> 00:29:15,420 released. Rocking Hamid Collete Darwish has a Special Immigrant 500 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:17,820 Visa thanks to his work for the US government. 501 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,300 I support the US government from the other side of the wall. But 502 00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:28,140 when they came here, they said no, they didn't break the rules 503 00:29:28,170 --> 00:29:29,220 or do something wrong. 504 00:29:29,490 --> 00:29:32,850 On Friday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order 505 00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:36,870 that puts a full month hold on all refugees settling in the US, 506 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:41,160 a 90 day ban for visitors from seven Muslim majority nations 507 00:29:41,340 --> 00:29:44,730 and a block on all Syrian refugees indefinitely. 508 00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:48,300 We're gonna have a very, very strict ban and we're going to 509 00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:51,480 have extreme vetting which we should have had in this country 510 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,890 for many years. 511 00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:57,600 Now, this Darwish guy by the way is a big Trump he I think he 512 00:29:57,660 --> 00:30:01,620 works at the White House is like a Trump Guy, they left that part 513 00:30:01,620 --> 00:30:03,630 out where it says, you know, I know I like Donald Trump's great 514 00:30:03,630 --> 00:30:06,420 guy. And they just put the head of he's the only guy that got 515 00:30:06,420 --> 00:30:09,300 out to run for the deadline. 516 00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:12,840 Well, there's there's a number of things going on here that are 517 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,220 troubling one. This executive order, according to the Federal 518 00:30:17,220 --> 00:30:21,840 Register is dated tomorrow, January 30 2017. 519 00:30:23,130 --> 00:30:24,930 There is no none of this should have happened. 520 00:30:25,260 --> 00:30:29,760 I don't believe so. No, I and I'm still not convinced that 521 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,990 something actually happened at the airports. All we have is the 522 00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:36,870 instigators of these protests, the ACLU, which you'll hear in a 523 00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:41,970 moment, who could have had a very coordinated campaign before 524 00:30:41,970 --> 00:30:46,470 this executive order was published. CNN had a copy. 525 00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:51,000 That's the only copy I have every other the all orders about 526 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,350 immigration are all dated January 30, for tomorrow. And 527 00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:58,320 they're also dated that way in the document itself. So I'm not 528 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,860 quite sure exactly what happened. But the point was 529 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:07,170 being made people really it's messed up dude, people can 530 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,050 people with green cards are being stopped at the border. And 531 00:31:10,050 --> 00:31:12,420 I would like to mention something about that briefly. A 532 00:31:12,420 --> 00:31:17,460 green card is not some kind of full on license, you're not a 533 00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:20,910 citizen, you're not allowed to vote. It has permission to stay 534 00:31:20,910 --> 00:31:25,650 and work in the United States. And you are on probation for the 535 00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:28,740 duration of your green card. I know because I've had brought 536 00:31:28,740 --> 00:31:30,960 two people into the country illegally, and they're on mute 537 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,980 when you're on probation if you are arrested for certain crimes, 538 00:31:35,010 --> 00:31:39,360 deportations imminent, so yeah, you're not allowed to, you know, 539 00:31:39,390 --> 00:31:44,040 you can't mess up. It's not like you're a citizen, you can vote. 540 00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:47,340 You are welcome. You're welcome to work to stay and to pay 541 00:31:47,340 --> 00:31:53,670 taxes. That just has to be said up front. Now, when you come in 542 00:31:53,670 --> 00:31:56,970 with a green card, you can get questioned, it's, in fact, you 543 00:31:56,970 --> 00:31:59,310 probably do get questioned, just check and see how you're doing. 544 00:31:59,310 --> 00:32:01,080 I've seen this many, many times. 545 00:32:01,380 --> 00:32:03,030 I think that's what happened with Darwish. 546 00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:08,310 And conversely, I do want to remind everyone that I was 547 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:11,700 barred from traveling to the to the European Union, the Schengen 548 00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:16,530 zone with valid documentation, which they decided oh, it's not 549 00:32:16,530 --> 00:32:20,250 valid right now. So that's a new rules not valid. So this is not 550 00:32:20,250 --> 00:32:24,210 like some crazy thing. That never happens. But let's listen 551 00:32:24,210 --> 00:32:27,060 to some of the protesters. Now here's a note from our producer 552 00:32:27,060 --> 00:32:32,130 Dewey, from DC, to about 250 people at the Dulles Airport 553 00:32:32,130 --> 00:32:35,940 protest, mostly disorganized, but there was at least one small 554 00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:40,710 group there with a laptop, Facebook chatting, they looked 555 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:43,740 organized, and they were the ones starting a bunch of chance. 556 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,900 Now he has a couple of these clips. There were maybe one or 557 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:51,420 two news crews look kind of like no local news. There were a 558 00:32:51,420 --> 00:32:54,570 handful of lawyers there and casual suits and name tags that 559 00:32:54,570 --> 00:33:01,590 said attorney offering free immigration counsel. And here is 560 00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:06,270 here's some of the chance that we're being organized there by 561 00:33:06,270 --> 00:33:13,890 the people with the laptop. We tear it down, tear it down the 562 00:33:13,890 --> 00:33:21,330 wall. You go you build a wall we tear it down and then we have 563 00:33:21,330 --> 00:33:21,810 this one 564 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:39,120 that is let them in now. Right? But here's the one that kind of 565 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,110 gives it away 566 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:56,850 there is the ACLU chant. They're just I never knew there was one 567 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:03,360 there just blatant now who is organizing this by ACLU 568 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,880 obviously we have the two lawyers that have them as well. 569 00:34:06,750 --> 00:34:12,060 This is the same people who organize Occupy Wall Street and 570 00:34:12,060 --> 00:34:15,420 they're using the same stupid stupid crap 571 00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:37,050 doing the MIC CHECK John. Hello, hello five years ago, mike check 572 00:34:37,050 --> 00:34:39,300 mike check now why would they do that? 573 00:34:40,530 --> 00:34:43,080 Other than they're all the same people. 574 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:55,560 He Thank you. A couple more of these protests chance Welcome to 575 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,720 the USA. Not quite sure what the purpose of that one is. This one 576 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,190 of course is an oldie but goodie 577 00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:17,340 that's love Trump's hate, make America great. And again, back 578 00:35:17,340 --> 00:35:26,130 to the ACLU. Let them see that this has got to be the most 579 00:35:26,130 --> 00:35:29,940 unAmerican thing you can ever say. Let them see their lawyers. 580 00:35:29,970 --> 00:35:33,630 No, no. Who comes up with that? 581 00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:38,100 Let him see their lawyers let that's a gem and 582 00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,500 that beautiful, let them see their lawyers, he has the 583 00:35:40,500 --> 00:36:03,270 attorney name badge another one. I like the chance, if you have a 584 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:07,080 green card or permanent resident status, you cannot be deported. 585 00:36:07,410 --> 00:36:12,540 That's not law. Sorry, you can be deported, you can be deported 586 00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:17,250 is easily, easily you can be deported. And if you're in 587 00:36:17,250 --> 00:36:20,580 violation, rightfully so. But of course Muslims are welcome here. 588 00:36:35,070 --> 00:36:38,700 Now, before moving on to any other chance, this is the most 589 00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:42,330 troubling part that came out of this. And as I was scanning 590 00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:46,500 through all the channels immediately is, even though and 591 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:50,880 I think we talked about it one or two shows ago, where I was 592 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,110 already hearing people saying, well, you know, it's it's a 593 00:36:55,110 --> 00:36:57,270 seven country band, I don't think they even knew it was 594 00:36:57,270 --> 00:37:00,450 seven countries at the time. It's a country band. But you 595 00:37:00,450 --> 00:37:04,380 know, that's just a watered down version of a Muslim ban. No, 596 00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:09,000 it's not. But here is the representative Kerr, the Council 597 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,670 on Islamic American relations, and who, of course, are also a 598 00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:15,990 world of subversive 599 00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:18,450 and they're very closely associated with the Muslim 600 00:37:18,450 --> 00:37:19,530 Brotherhood. Well, 601 00:37:19,710 --> 00:37:24,330 they were a front, did they, they were convicted. I think 602 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,530 we're implicated as a front group for, for terrorism for 603 00:37:28,590 --> 00:37:31,200 terrorism financing. Okay, absolutely. They're now in the 604 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,130 lexicon. Here we go. 605 00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:34,500 Joining me now is that right below Executive Director for the 606 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:37,200 Council on American Islamic Relations. The San Francisco 607 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,140 chapter, joins us live from there. It's good to have you 608 00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:44,490 with us first. How do you see the message that Donald Trump is 609 00:37:44,490 --> 00:37:46,770 sending with the signing of this executive order? What do you 610 00:37:46,770 --> 00:37:47,880 think that message is? 611 00:37:48,060 --> 00:37:50,400 Thanks so much for having me. Amen. Honestly, the message 612 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,250 feels like national security theater. They're targeting a 613 00:37:53,250 --> 00:37:56,460 number of countries where we haven't seen terrorist attacks 614 00:37:56,460 --> 00:37:59,130 happening in the United States connected to those countries. 615 00:37:59,580 --> 00:38:02,580 And still he pushes forward this rhetoric of this makes America 616 00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:05,610 safer. In reality, what it is, is a Muslim ban. 617 00:38:06,210 --> 00:38:10,590 No, it is not a Muslim ban. And I'll tell you why. The country 618 00:38:10,620 --> 00:38:15,480 with the most Muslims in the world is Indonesia. There is no 619 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,860 ban on Indonesia. Sadly, there's also no ban on Saudi Arabia, 620 00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:25,920 which I find to be kind of dumb, that that would have that would 621 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,820 have really been a line in the sand. Say, You know what, screw 622 00:38:29,820 --> 00:38:33,660 you guys, too. And now, even though we're not really supposed 623 00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:37,320 to talk about it now that all the actual terrorists who came 624 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:43,860 and brought down the towers are still allowed to come. It's, 625 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,440 it's a brain freeze you get from it. Of course, this is nothing 626 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,410 new in 2011, the constitutional net could be where this 627 00:38:52,410 --> 00:38:55,410 border gets stained. Well, this is also not unprecedented, by 628 00:38:55,410 --> 00:38:59,430 the way. I mean, Barack Obama put a pause for six months on 629 00:38:59,460 --> 00:39:03,210 refugees coming from Iraq back in 2011. I don't remember 630 00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:07,380 protesters, and I don't remember lawsuits. So I think the bigger 631 00:39:07,380 --> 00:39:11,940 question, if this is a temporary pause, which is designed for us 632 00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:15,240 to improve and look at our vetting processes, and indeed 633 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,120 temporary, I don't necessarily think that's an outrageous idea. 634 00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:21,360 But the bigger question should be implementation. Did you get 635 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,560 it right from the start? 636 00:39:23,130 --> 00:39:26,100 Okay, so there's nothing new but of course, we're going to get a 637 00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:29,610 different a new noise about it, because it is not President 638 00:39:29,610 --> 00:39:32,730 Obama doing this. And I do want to point out that having read 639 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,930 the executive order, it is a completely legal order. So I'm 640 00:39:36,930 --> 00:39:44,880 not sure why. Why ACLU is claiming it is not as this order 641 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,640 builds on US Code 1187 the visa waiver program, specifically, 642 00:39:50,910 --> 00:39:56,970 section 12, A, which then by name mentions Iraq and Iran. 643 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,070 They can be have banned at any time or of course any other 644 00:40:02,070 --> 00:40:06,480 countries that the Secretary of the State or the president deem 645 00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:12,390 as necessary, so it's entirely legal as far as I can tell. Oh 646 00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:15,540 man, are we protecting Trump too much John, you got to stop me if 647 00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:26,250 I do that bastard Okay, well here's what well I wanted to 648 00:40:26,820 --> 00:40:30,360 rapidly you get a few here let me let me stop you there. When 649 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,770 you go I might protecting Trump too much This to me is a pause 650 00:40:34,770 --> 00:40:39,180 in your clip edge. And it allows me to interrupt and drop my own 651 00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:44,640 clip good because it was all the way I saw it. It was a cue. And 652 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,430 so your cue it just happened to last to miss cue. I was a 653 00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:50,310 miscue, your I will miss cue me. And you've been doing it 654 00:40:50,310 --> 00:40:52,980 consistently. And I'll tell you why. You're bickering, you're 655 00:40:52,980 --> 00:40:55,350 bickering? And no, we're not bickering? Well, I'll tell you 656 00:40:55,350 --> 00:40:58,080 what buddy's best cueing the other guy and that is you. 657 00:40:58,110 --> 00:41:03,870 I'll tell you why. Because you have stepped up asking me 658 00:41:03,870 --> 00:41:07,230 questions. You say, What can it not be like this? Can it not be 659 00:41:07,230 --> 00:41:10,320 like that. But when I do it to you, you take it as a cue to do 660 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,540 something else. So doesn't matter. But 661 00:41:12,540 --> 00:41:14,610 that's how what you did. You didn't ask me a question you 662 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,090 while you did. You did ask you a question. Specifically last 663 00:41:18,090 --> 00:41:19,980 time. Wait a minute, wait a minute, just to get into 664 00:41:19,980 --> 00:41:24,060 bickering mode. The last time you yelled at me for asking you 665 00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:25,950 a question that you needed to answer. But it wasn't a 666 00:41:25,950 --> 00:41:28,080 question. I just made a statement and I made it clear it 667 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,590 was a statement. Let's hear your clips. And that would be no I 668 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:34,230 don't have no because you will have some opposite of yours and 669 00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:37,350 a continuation mode which would you didn't let me know. And you 670 00:41:37,350 --> 00:41:39,780 finish your continuation mode because mine's a sidetrack. 671 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,830 Let's see your clips. 672 00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:48,450 I have one clip. Okay. This is the h1 B visa clip. Now. This 673 00:41:48,450 --> 00:41:53,190 came into the conversation with does all this crap in the 674 00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:56,670 Silicon Valley whining and whining, and this has been 675 00:41:58,050 --> 00:42:02,730 Silicon Valley has relied on h1 B visas for a long time to get 676 00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:09,870 cheap labor from India to replace American workers. So 677 00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:12,930 Trump is going to do something about that. There's a guy at UC 678 00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:14,910 Davis, we've talked about him before. I can't think of his 679 00:42:14,910 --> 00:42:19,080 name offhand. Very famous guy has debunked all the h1 B 680 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,080 arguments. It's always about the same thing. You bring in some 681 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,350 cheap guys from India, and you put them into places of 682 00:42:25,350 --> 00:42:28,920 Americans and they work cheaper and they're just as good. So 683 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:34,170 let's play the h1 B visa story on CBS twisted it's twisted 684 00:42:34,770 --> 00:42:38,280 Reena. Jonathan biglietti. Thank you. Well, the President's ban 685 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,220 on refugees is sending shockwaves through the US tech 686 00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:47,070 industry. Carter Evans has more on this. Oh, geez. I'm sorry. 687 00:42:47,490 --> 00:42:50,310 Are they hiring refugees? And so it's sending shockwaves? 688 00:42:51,210 --> 00:42:54,660 Yeah, of course waves through the US tech industry. Carter 689 00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:55,980 Evans has more on this. 690 00:42:58,530 --> 00:43:01,830 The President's aggressive immigration agenda has Silicon 691 00:43:01,830 --> 00:43:07,230 Valley preparing to take on Mr. Trump at issue h1 B visas, 692 00:43:07,410 --> 00:43:10,890 companies rely on them to recruit top talent from around 693 00:43:10,890 --> 00:43:14,640 the world. Jessica Levinson is a law professor at Loyola 694 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,330 University. 695 00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:18,390 The immigration policy and particularly this visa program 696 00:43:18,420 --> 00:43:21,630 is I think it's very much on the table. My guess is that it will 697 00:43:21,630 --> 00:43:23,880 be changed and it is very much up in the air. 698 00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:28,710 Currently, the US grants visas to 85,000 foreign workers a year 699 00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:32,220 through a lottery. But a draft of a proposed executive order 700 00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:36,030 published in the New York Times this week suggest change is 701 00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:39,360 coming. The administration wants to consider ways to make the 702 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,870 process for allocating h1 B visas more efficient. 703 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:45,480 How do you think New York Times got a hold of a draft? Is that 704 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,780 something that was leaked to them specifically on purpose? 705 00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:50,280 What do you think that was about? 706 00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:54,840 There's two possibilities. One they have somebody in the Trump 707 00:43:55,230 --> 00:43:58,470 administration is passing these things around. I have an idea 708 00:43:58,470 --> 00:44:01,530 who it is yeah. Okay. And or it could have been leaked on 709 00:44:01,530 --> 00:44:04,890 purpose as you would would for pushback they get in advance. 710 00:44:05,730 --> 00:44:08,010 No. trial balloon trial balloon, okay. 711 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,010 ministration wants to consider ways to make the process for 712 00:44:11,010 --> 00:44:14,640 allocating h1 B visas more efficient and ensure that 713 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,090 beneficiaries of the program are the best and the brightest, 714 00:44:18,270 --> 00:44:20,490 they will be enforced and enforce 715 00:44:21,690 --> 00:44:25,200 just how the administration would do that is what concerns 716 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,770 Mike Grandinetti, Chief Marketing Officer at reductio, a 717 00:44:28,770 --> 00:44:29,640 digital storage 718 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,080 startup or we're looking to recruit at least 10 engineers 10 719 00:44:34,110 --> 00:44:36,720 We can't afford to slow down we can continue to stay ahead of 720 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:38,340 the big guys. More than 721 00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:44,040 half of the startup cost. This is the best they could do. 10 722 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,400 Guys, he had some guy on a screen a Skype screen and he 723 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,670 runs some company no one's ever heard of and he's hiring 10 724 00:44:50,670 --> 00:44:57,690 people. Is it is Jason Calacanis an angel in that company. Sorry. 725 00:44:58,350 --> 00:45:02,580 Onward. Yes. I was dreading investing, 726 00:45:03,929 --> 00:45:07,079 digital storage startup, or we're looking to recruit at 727 00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:10,799 least 10 engineers. And we can't afford to slow down, we can 728 00:45:10,799 --> 00:45:12,629 continue to stay ahead of the big guys, the big 729 00:45:12,629 --> 00:45:16,169 guy. More than half the country startup companies worth more 730 00:45:16,169 --> 00:45:19,829 than a billion dollars were founded by immigrants. Tesla and 731 00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:23,939 SpaceX CEO. Elon Musk is from South jobs. And two of the 732 00:45:23,939 --> 00:45:27,989 world's largest tech companies. Microsoft and Google also have 733 00:45:27,989 --> 00:45:32,429 immigrants CEO and Steve Jobs. Google says it's concerned of 734 00:45:32,429 --> 00:45:35,009 feeling now prominent in Silicon Valley. 735 00:45:36,270 --> 00:45:40,500 That is called the CEO of Microsoft, an immigrant. And 736 00:45:40,530 --> 00:45:44,010 then what isn't a big Indian guy, but he is they make it 737 00:45:44,010 --> 00:45:48,390 sound as though the guy just came over on a rowboat. Well, 738 00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:51,030 he's now running Microsoft, because he's a genius. 739 00:45:51,060 --> 00:45:54,510 I'm the face bags. It's all a picture of Steve Jobs like Steve 740 00:45:54,510 --> 00:45:57,810 Jobs as an immigrant from his from Syria. It's not true, but 741 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,300 no, he's not. But he and he was like it. Okay. Steve Jobs is was 742 00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:06,720 abandoned by his Syrian father just kicked out of the Get out 743 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:10,140 of here. So that's the kind of people we're dealing with. Is 744 00:46:10,140 --> 00:46:12,540 that there? Is that the point you're trying to make? Not 745 00:46:12,540 --> 00:46:15,210 again, you had to two dimensions. Oh, totally, 746 00:46:15,300 --> 00:46:19,260 totally. But I can tell you though, in one dimension, you 747 00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:24,720 think h1 B visas a problem? No, no, no. The real problem is 748 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,970 coming up. One of the Sundays. 749 00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:30,390 The effects of the ban have even had Hollywood reports say a 750 00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:34,080 rainy director Asghar Farhadi, a nominee for Best Foreign 751 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,110 Language Film. We not be able to attend the Oscars. 752 00:46:37,140 --> 00:46:43,710 Oh, the humanity that Oscar show is going to be just one being oh 753 00:46:43,710 --> 00:46:46,710 my god, it's gonna be horrible. 754 00:46:47,070 --> 00:46:50,910 Oh, night we have. We have Miss Universe and I which are have a 755 00:46:50,910 --> 00:46:52,380 lot of message Oh, yeah. 756 00:46:52,380 --> 00:46:53,910 Are you are you going to be on the beat? 757 00:46:54,780 --> 00:46:58,080 Well, only if I'm, if it's a request, because I thought I 758 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,970 retired from this gang. I think 759 00:46:59,970 --> 00:47:02,790 I think this is an important time for you to to, to be 760 00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:08,940 brought back in. I do one more protest chant for us here. 761 00:47:18,420 --> 00:47:19,470 I like that. 762 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,450 Can it's funny, but this is again, this is shaming. This is 763 00:47:24,450 --> 00:47:28,260 the kind of thing that these people are supposed to not do. 764 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,670 It's insulting shaming, it's it's about appearances is taught 765 00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:35,580 as a giving somebody crap about their appearance. It's like the 766 00:47:35,610 --> 00:47:40,140 Cheeto face, the one that had to face Judd talked about this 767 00:47:40,140 --> 00:47:44,430 whole thing. It's like just it's an embarrassment to the to the 768 00:47:44,430 --> 00:47:47,310 left, and the causes that they say that they're so good. 769 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,630 They're so important. 770 00:47:48,660 --> 00:47:53,220 I would like to for just a moment talk about the executive 771 00:47:53,220 --> 00:47:58,080 order that discusses the wall. You know, of course, this is, 772 00:47:58,110 --> 00:48:01,530 you know, there's outrage abound about this wall. It's crazy. 773 00:48:01,530 --> 00:48:05,010 It's insane. So I read the executive order. And the 774 00:48:05,010 --> 00:48:09,060 executive order states very specifically, that this order is 775 00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:15,120 based on previous existing law. And that would be the I would 776 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:23,010 say, the mislabeled Secure Fence Act of 2006. And based upon that 777 00:48:23,010 --> 00:48:25,920 law, and the initial funding, which I think was underfunded, 778 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,880 it was about $1.2 billion, that the Congress and this was a 779 00:48:30,210 --> 00:48:34,770 signed by George W. Bush, went through, went through Congress 780 00:48:34,770 --> 00:48:37,350 was passed in the House representatives in the Senate, 781 00:48:37,350 --> 00:48:39,420 and the President signed off on it. And of course, it was 782 00:48:39,420 --> 00:48:44,520 largely ignored by the administration after that. But 783 00:48:44,550 --> 00:48:47,610 the executive order does nothing other than say, oh, you know, 784 00:48:47,610 --> 00:48:53,220 this order this, the Secure Fence Act has not been completed 785 00:48:53,250 --> 00:48:56,910 as it has to be. So we're going to do this and oh, yeah, we'll 786 00:48:56,910 --> 00:49:00,990 need more money. I do want to mention specifically, the Secure 787 00:49:00,990 --> 00:49:05,130 Fence Act was probably written with that title, to make it 788 00:49:05,130 --> 00:49:11,670 sound you know, softer, because the act itself does not speak of 789 00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:16,230 a fence or, you know, buying a with a friendship. I get like 790 00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:20,190 Tom Sawyer, Huck Finn visions of whitewash and painting the 791 00:49:20,190 --> 00:49:26,670 fence. Now, a physical barrier is the terminology, the Secure 792 00:49:26,670 --> 00:49:30,960 Fence Act of 2006. The goal is to help secure America's borders 793 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,960 to decrease illegal entry drug traffic and security threats by 794 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,560 building 700 miles of physical barriers along the Mexico United 795 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,010 States border. Additional Additionally, the law authorizes 796 00:49:41,010 --> 00:49:43,590 more vehicle barriers, checkpoints and lighting as well 797 00:49:43,590 --> 00:49:46,620 as authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to crease the 798 00:49:46,620 --> 00:49:49,350 use of advanced technology like cameras, satellites and unmanned 799 00:49:49,410 --> 00:49:52,320 aerial devices to reinforce infrastructure along the border. 800 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,410 That is what actually happened with the money. All of those 801 00:49:55,410 --> 00:50:00,960 douchebags with the L three and all those da CES for the 802 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,500 Chertoff Group. They took that money, and they said, Oh, yeah, 803 00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:09,090 we have drones and infrared cameras, which I am against as a 804 00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:12,390 border protection. You can have some of it in addition, but it's 805 00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:16,080 too easy to create windows. And that's that's how the drugs come 806 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,520 in. Yeah, the cameras will be pointed north by northeast at 807 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,120 1130. You know, you have about 15 minutes before they swing 808 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,910 around. Where did you get some physical people in? Things 809 00:50:26,910 --> 00:50:30,360 change. But again, from the Trump Protection Department, 810 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,460 he's using existing law. I see no issue. Philosophically, you 811 00:50:35,460 --> 00:50:39,360 can have an issue, but I see no issue. Certainly not. From a 812 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:46,860 legal standpoint, at all what? Yes, and but let's that don't 813 00:50:46,860 --> 00:50:49,530 take it from me. Because I don't know what I'm talking about. 814 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,660 Let's listen to people who apparently know much more than I 815 00:50:51,660 --> 00:50:54,900 do. And that would be the two ACLU lawyers who came out 816 00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:58,560 amongst the crowd, as heroes to proclaim they had done 817 00:50:58,590 --> 00:50:59,370 something. 818 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,410 We asked the judge to hold everything in place. We believe 819 00:51:04,410 --> 00:51:08,250 this executive order is clearly unlawful. But we said to the 820 00:51:08,250 --> 00:51:12,450 judges, we understand she may need time to figure that out to 821 00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:16,590 block the removal of everyone nationwide who's been caught up 822 00:51:16,770 --> 00:51:20,280 in this unlawful executive order. She agreed the government 823 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:27,390 may not send anybody back until she finally rules. Everyone now 824 00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:35,250 who came is safe. And that is absolutely critical. As Anthony 825 00:51:35,250 --> 00:51:39,270 said, the courts work the way they're supposed to work in our 826 00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:48,630 country, the President could not override the courts. Everybody 827 00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:51,540 has to be like tonight, we they don't have to be released from 828 00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:55,080 detention. We have asked for the names. She ought to give us the 829 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:55,380 names. 830 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,430 They don't. They don't have to be sent back. They are also not 831 00:51:59,430 --> 00:52:02,490 being whoever it is apparently not being released from 832 00:52:02,490 --> 00:52:06,330 detention. He said, Yes, that's correct. But that's still good. 833 00:52:06,990 --> 00:52:08,910 I said they're supposed to free these people. 834 00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:13,140 Now, this is a small victory. Obviously, this is a small a 835 00:52:13,140 --> 00:52:16,830 small victory. But again, as he says, they don't even know the 836 00:52:16,830 --> 00:52:19,950 names of these people. We don't know if anyone is actually 837 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,130 sitting there. We really don't know. It's just all of a sudden, 838 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,760 a day before this is signed officially into law, the way I 839 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,490 understand how the Federal Register works, based upon a 840 00:52:29,490 --> 00:52:33,900 draft. ACLU is out there with crowds chanting, chanting their 841 00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:38,310 ACLU safe space, Occupy Wall Street garbage damage. 842 00:52:39,090 --> 00:52:41,760 Yeah, there are there are probably a few people that do 843 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,380 have jobs. And they have to work on Monday. Some but let's 844 00:52:46,380 --> 00:52:49,140 continue weekend. I know most of them. Don't. Let's continue with 845 00:52:49,140 --> 00:52:53,100 this. So that's bigoted to say that. The weekends easier. 846 00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:56,940 The weekend is much easier. But yeah, to do that, so yeah, 847 00:52:56,940 --> 00:52:58,530 better than Monday. You're right. Tonight, 848 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,710 we don't have to be released from detention, we have asked 849 00:53:01,710 --> 00:53:04,350 for the names. She ordered the government to give us the names, 850 00:53:04,350 --> 00:53:06,870 which is critical because the government has not allowed them 851 00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:10,170 to see attorneys, we cannot find everyone there all over the 852 00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:14,220 country. Once we have the names, we will painstakingly go through 853 00:53:14,250 --> 00:53:17,430 each one on the list and go to the government and try and get 854 00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:20,370 them out of detention while the court process proceeds. But the 855 00:53:20,370 --> 00:53:24,300 critical point tonight is no one can be sent back to one of these 856 00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:25,950 countries, it was what's critical. 857 00:53:28,530 --> 00:53:30,360 People who've never had a passport cheering 858 00:53:31,830 --> 00:53:34,500 Pentacles on the judge understood the irreparable harm 859 00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:36,990 that would happen to individuals who will return back to their 860 00:53:36,990 --> 00:53:40,560 countries, individuals who have been granted visas. Some of them 861 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,070 are green card holders. They're lawfully here in this country. 862 00:53:44,070 --> 00:53:47,370 And just because his order was executed yesterday. They've been 863 00:53:47,370 --> 00:53:50,130 caught in this limbo. And so the judge wants to make sure that 864 00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:52,230 these individuals are not harmed. He 865 00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:55,020 says the order was executed yesterday, but I'm maybe I'm 866 00:53:55,020 --> 00:53:57,030 just wrong about how the Federal Register works. 867 00:53:57,150 --> 00:54:01,500 But if it's signed in supposed to go into effect at a certain 868 00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:04,320 date, maybe when they signed it that's executed, but it doesn't 869 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,610 mean it goes Oh, okay. 870 00:54:06,089 --> 00:54:08,939 They're lawfully here in this country. And just because his 871 00:54:08,939 --> 00:54:11,819 order was executed yesterday. They've been caught in this 872 00:54:11,819 --> 00:54:12,059 limbo. 873 00:54:12,089 --> 00:54:17,699 And by the way, for many years we've known and everybody who is 874 00:54:17,939 --> 00:54:23,489 in is concerned about your personal security, and your 875 00:54:23,489 --> 00:54:27,719 personal effects and your rights. We've been through this 876 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,869 several times when you arrive at the United States border, even 877 00:54:30,869 --> 00:54:34,469 if you are a United States citizen before you are let into 878 00:54:34,469 --> 00:54:39,509 the country, you have no rights. You have no rights. You have no 879 00:54:39,509 --> 00:54:43,649 rights to do anything. I don't like it by the way I've been 880 00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:47,129 blocked at the border so many times and they can search your 881 00:54:47,129 --> 00:54:49,799 stuff they can do anything they want. You have no right 882 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,800 once you step foot on the United States soil you should be you're 883 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,540 in the country as far as I'm concerned. 884 00:54:54,690 --> 00:54:57,600 Until you go through the gate officially you're not on US 885 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,760 soil. That's the same with an ember No, that's 886 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,950 what I don't like it either. I think it's I think it's 887 00:55:01,980 --> 00:55:03,090 unAmerican. But 888 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,420 that but that is just what's been happening and that you got 889 00:55:06,420 --> 00:55:08,880 to take that up with the Obama Administration Department of 890 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,560 Homeland Security who started doing that, and 891 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,980 granted visas. Some of them are green card holders. They're 892 00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:17,100 lawfully here in this country. And just because his order was 893 00:55:17,130 --> 00:55:20,820 extra lawfully here, but you're on probation tweeted yesterday, 894 00:55:21,090 --> 00:55:23,700 to have been caught in this limbo. And so the judge wants to 895 00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:27,000 make sure that these individuals are not harmed than they are 896 00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:30,150 they stay on American soil that the government is forced to walk 897 00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:33,540 through an argument of what whether or not they get to stay. 898 00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:36,720 And it's a remarkable moment because clearly, this is an 899 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:40,080 enormous setback for President Trump's executive order. 900 00:55:40,290 --> 00:55:44,670 Oh, that's the number one thing that's important, is not if what 901 00:55:44,670 --> 00:55:48,630 I expect him to say is, this is clearly a victory for people who 902 00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:52,350 are being persecuted unfairly. Instead, he says, this is 903 00:55:52,350 --> 00:55:56,370 clearly a victory against that orange do an enormous setback is 904 00:55:56,430 --> 00:55:58,050 Yeah, well, yes, that 905 00:55:58,380 --> 00:56:00,900 reaction there preoccupy that's what their target is, they don't 906 00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:03,510 care about these people. Thank you only care about Trump. 907 00:56:03,540 --> 00:56:06,510 It's correct. That's exactly it. That's why it's top of mind. 908 00:56:07,410 --> 00:56:10,230 And it's a remarkable moment, because clearly, this is an 909 00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:13,710 enormous setback for President Trump's executive order. We 910 00:56:13,710 --> 00:56:18,240 already have a federal judge issuing a stay a hold on the 911 00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:20,970 executive order for individuals who already are in American 912 00:56:20,970 --> 00:56:24,750 soil. It's the first day that we get to fight back and make sure 913 00:56:24,750 --> 00:56:27,480 we can be used the courts to ensure immigrants rights in this 914 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:27,900 country. 915 00:56:28,110 --> 00:56:31,710 Okay. immigrants rights, I don't think are being violated yet. 916 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,800 I'm not a lawyer here is Democratic Representative Adam 917 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:39,540 Smith. And he has humble he's all he also is trying to 918 00:56:39,540 --> 00:56:43,230 propagate this as being a Muslim ban only Muslim ban, which I'm 919 00:56:43,230 --> 00:56:46,410 sorry, it is not. But do you understand, Congressman, why a 920 00:56:46,410 --> 00:56:50,160 lot of Americans believe extreme vetting of refugees coming into 921 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,080 the United States will protect them. 922 00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:55,230 I think in large part, it's because people aren't aware of 923 00:56:55,230 --> 00:56:58,380 the vetting process that already exists. And again, they're not 924 00:56:58,380 --> 00:57:01,800 aware, aware, apparently, of the fact that we have not had 925 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,690 terrorist attacks from refugees. 926 00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:06,600 I think that may be a stretch 927 00:57:08,910 --> 00:57:11,160 while the other thing he says specifically 928 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,670 refugees. He's he 929 00:57:14,970 --> 00:57:17,850 we don't have that many refugees in the country yet. He omits 930 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,250 they've had him in Germany, they had a terrorist attacks from 931 00:57:20,250 --> 00:57:23,610 refugees in France, they've had terrorist attacks and refugees 932 00:57:23,610 --> 00:57:24,360 more or less. So 933 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,690 there have been 20 remedy for sure. i My understanding is 934 00:57:27,690 --> 00:57:32,250 there have been a I've seen two numbers 18 or 25,000. People who 935 00:57:32,250 --> 00:57:35,310 have under existing rules have been stopped who are deemed to 936 00:57:35,310 --> 00:57:39,660 be terrorists coming in to be up to no good. And but for him to 937 00:57:39,660 --> 00:57:46,320 say no, no refugees, but certainly the wife of Omar 938 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,320 Mateen, though not a refugee, she was certainly here as a 939 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,730 guest on a on a waiver. And by the way, this is an aside, 940 00:57:54,210 --> 00:57:59,700 Poland, Poland cannot get visas to the United States. Poland, 941 00:58:00,510 --> 00:58:03,540 the other not one of our strongest allies. Do we not have 942 00:58:03,570 --> 00:58:07,110 you know, 5000 troops now in Poland? Do we have tanks in 943 00:58:07,110 --> 00:58:10,740 Poland? Poland, not a part of the Visa Waiver Program, Poland, 944 00:58:10,830 --> 00:58:12,990 not allowed to just come into the United States? 945 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,450 Well, there's a bunch of conspiracy theories about why 946 00:58:18,450 --> 00:58:19,710 that is. Well, back 947 00:58:19,710 --> 00:58:21,810 to the Adam Smith, they're 948 00:58:21,810 --> 00:58:24,840 of the vetting process that already exists. And again, 949 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,630 they're not aware, aware, apparently, of the fact that we 950 00:58:27,630 --> 00:58:31,680 have not had terrorist attacks from refugees. You know, gosh, 951 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,320 you think of all the shootings that have gone on in the US, 952 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:39,120 most of them have been committed by US citizens. So we have a 953 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,530 strong vetting process in place already. So the outright ban 954 00:58:43,530 --> 00:58:47,850 again sends that anti Muslim message I don't think it's going 955 00:58:47,850 --> 00:58:49,380 to be helpful to US interests. 956 00:58:49,620 --> 00:58:54,300 It's not an anti Muslim bill it nowhere doesn't mention Muslim 957 00:58:54,330 --> 00:58:59,040 in the bill in the in the memorandum nor does it mention 958 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,160 that anywhere in in the bill that the memorandum is based on 959 00:59:09,060 --> 00:59:11,670 Well, now there's a number of pieces of Fallout I don't know 960 00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:14,430 if you have anything else, cuz I'm gonna go to sanctuary cities 961 00:59:14,430 --> 00:59:17,070 for a moment only have one clip if you have anything for that. 962 00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:20,670 I do have 963 00:59:21,509 --> 00:59:24,659 while you're looking. It's the sanctuary cities is all a part 964 00:59:24,659 --> 00:59:26,909 of the same executive order. Oh, I 965 00:59:26,910 --> 00:59:29,190 didn't know that's interesting. Yeah. Once you go on with that, 966 00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:33,030 and then good. Yeah, we got to Yeah, yeah. Okay. 967 00:59:33,060 --> 00:59:37,950 So the sanctuary cities, the way they work, I'm going to try and 968 00:59:37,950 --> 00:59:39,990 paraphrase as much as possible and honestly had 969 00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:42,390 a lot of clips about this. I think we know Yeah, well. 970 00:59:44,250 --> 00:59:49,260 People are very forgetful. Their sanctuary cities are cities that 971 00:59:49,260 --> 00:59:54,330 have decided they will not tell the federal immigration 972 00:59:54,330 --> 01:00:02,970 officials ice about any illegal As the law says, illegal alien, 973 01:00:02,970 --> 01:00:08,190 that's what the law states still about any infraction they have 974 01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:12,450 occurred, I believe unless it is, you know, murder. So they 975 01:00:12,450 --> 01:00:12,870 will be 976 01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:16,140 murderers at the point where they might even know in San 977 01:00:16,140 --> 01:00:19,800 Francisco. Not so sure. 978 01:00:20,190 --> 01:00:24,810 Well, New York is also interesting Mayor Bill de Blasio 979 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:30,900 was defending New York as a sanctuary city. And as the 980 01:00:31,050 --> 01:00:35,400 counter to this, the administration has said, Look, 981 01:00:35,430 --> 01:00:38,700 if you're not going to follow federal law, and I think this 982 01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:42,390 falls under nullification, if you're not going to follow that, 983 01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:43,770 if you're going to pick and choose, you're not going to 984 01:00:43,770 --> 01:00:46,500 choose these, that's fine. You can do the clearly the federal 985 01:00:46,500 --> 01:00:49,080 government cannot force the state what to do in this regard, 986 01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:51,990 but they can turn off funding. And so that's 987 01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:55,110 the old Gambit that the conservatives have always 988 01:00:55,110 --> 01:00:58,260 complained about with the education system. Yeah, which is 989 01:00:58,260 --> 01:01:01,350 that once you get in bed with the feds, once you get in bed 990 01:01:01,380 --> 01:01:06,120 with the Fed, you end up being at their mercy. And this is the 991 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,540 trap that it has to do with states rights versus the Fed. 992 01:01:09,570 --> 01:01:12,660 Yes. So and sandwich all these cities are all in bed, they get 993 01:01:12,660 --> 01:01:16,440 all this money for roads, and is a bunch of tax money stolen from 994 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,260 the public and then given back is what it amounts to. 995 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,880 So what do you think would be the cut off the type of crime 996 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:28,440 that would be a cut off for a vote for Bill de Blasio, 997 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:36,570 specifically, to tell the Feds about any illegal alien or not 998 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,510 what crime? What are the lowest crimes? 999 01:01:40,590 --> 01:01:44,070 I can think of a bunch of rape, I think should be reported, I 1000 01:01:44,070 --> 01:01:50,310 think armed robbery or burglary. Along those covers most of 1001 01:01:50,310 --> 01:01:54,480 these, you know, kind of middle sized felonies for sure. Not a 1002 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,140 parking ticket. 1003 01:01:55,170 --> 01:01:58,080 Well, let's see what the mayor of New York says 1004 01:01:58,110 --> 01:02:01,980 are new sanctuary city law that you approved in October 2014. 1005 01:02:01,980 --> 01:02:05,610 The city of New York shields from the feds undocumented 1006 01:02:05,610 --> 01:02:08,610 immigrants who commit What are deemed to be lesser offenses, 1007 01:02:08,610 --> 01:02:12,420 but they include drunk driving and grand larceny. Why shouldn't 1008 01:02:12,420 --> 01:02:16,470 the city of New York comply with federal law in this area? If 1009 01:02:16,470 --> 01:02:18,720 you're a drunk driver, and you're an undocumented 1010 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,720 immigrant? Why should there be a place for you in this country? 1011 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,010 Jake, there are 170 offenses in that law that are listed as 1012 01:02:26,010 --> 01:02:29,430 serious and violent crimes that lead to automatic cooperation 1013 01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:32,580 between the city of New York and our federal partners. So any 1014 01:02:32,580 --> 01:02:37,350 serious and violent crime, we're going to work with them. someone 1015 01:02:37,380 --> 01:02:40,680 commits a minor offense. For example, right now, if you 1016 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,350 didn't have clear definitions, like we have, let's say someone 1017 01:02:43,350 --> 01:02:46,230 has small amount of marijuana, let's say someone went through a 1018 01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:50,310 stop sign, they could be deported for that. And their 1019 01:02:50,310 --> 01:02:53,280 family could be torn apart. And you can have children left 1020 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,920 behind where the breadwinner in the family is sent back to a 1021 01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:00,720 home country. That is not good for anyone. So we differentiate 1022 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,390 anyone who has a violent anyone who's a serious threat to 1023 01:03:03,390 --> 01:03:07,050 society. We agree we'll work with the federal partners, and 1024 01:03:07,050 --> 01:03:11,220 they get deported. But we are not going to see. With half a 1025 01:03:11,220 --> 01:03:13,590 million undocumented people here. This would be true for 11 1026 01:03:13,590 --> 01:03:16,380 and 12 million undocumented folks in this country, the vast 1027 01:03:16,380 --> 01:03:18,750 majority of whom are law abiding. We're not gonna see 1028 01:03:18,750 --> 01:03:22,470 families torn apart over a very minor offense, but it's grand 1029 01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:25,830 larceny or drunk driving a very minor offense drunk driving that 1030 01:03:25,830 --> 01:03:29,610 does not lead to any other negative outcome. I could define 1031 01:03:29,610 --> 01:03:30,060 it as that 1032 01:03:30,330 --> 01:03:36,120 wow, I don't think I'm okay with that. Drunk driving as long as 1033 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,350 you don't kill anybody it's okay this is new 1034 01:03:43,050 --> 01:03:46,500 Yeah, that's a tough one. You should probably drop the dead 1035 01:03:46,500 --> 01:03:48,660 already Misha probably be pushed down a little bit more. 1036 01:03:48,690 --> 01:03:53,280 Yeah, I do. But it just shows you that thinking I didn't kill 1037 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,000 anybody. I just driving drunk I mean, hey, you know they finally 1038 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,390 got some alcohol in them. They're enjoying America. 1039 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,480 Yeah, you know, I have mixed feelings about all of this 1040 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,170 because they will take that same argument in some other venue and 1041 01:04:10,170 --> 01:04:15,270 then use it differently. Or liberal wishy washy, this kind 1042 01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:15,540 of 1043 01:04:15,630 --> 01:04:19,500 well, knowing the real the real worry, of course, is the dairy 1044 01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:27,240 industry. who apparently used a lot of illegal workers and the 1045 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,290 articles I'm reading today Well, you better get ready to pay more 1046 01:04:31,290 --> 01:04:35,760 for that ice cream. We're getting ready to pay more for 1047 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,400 that frozen yogurt you like so much? 1048 01:04:39,390 --> 01:04:42,390 Yeah, this is the kind of whole great you know, reminds me. Yes. 1049 01:04:43,110 --> 01:04:47,850 We I was when I was taking my tour of Holland with Yan ale 1050 01:04:47,850 --> 01:04:50,190 Minh, who took me up the whole country. I got to see everything 1051 01:04:50,190 --> 01:04:52,830 including that obscure Van Gogh Museum out in the middle of 1052 01:04:52,830 --> 01:04:57,990 nowhere where most of the paintings are. By the giant 1053 01:04:57,990 --> 01:05:02,790 chicken truck went by A giant truck with chicken, some sort of 1054 01:05:02,790 --> 01:05:06,840 Dutch chicken. And I said, Well, as soon as I see all these 1055 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,450 trucks and make a lot of chicken here, he says yes, he says the 1056 01:05:09,450 --> 01:05:14,490 Dutch have the most advanced automated chicken facilities in 1057 01:05:14,490 --> 01:05:23,580 the world because we've got no Mexicans. He said, He says we 1058 01:05:23,580 --> 01:05:25,800 had to automate because we couldn't get anyone to work in 1059 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,160 these chicken factories. And now we have this outrageously modern 1060 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,460 chicken facility that is just all robots like, Yeah, that's 1061 01:05:32,460 --> 01:05:32,880 great. Oh, 1062 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,940 yeah, it's all indoor, you don't see anything. Same with the 1063 01:05:35,940 --> 01:05:41,430 cows, the hay goes in the front, and chicken and chicken and cows 1064 01:05:41,430 --> 01:05:43,530 come out the back, you don't know what's going on in there. 1065 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:48,720 very secretive, very, very secretive. Then I have one more 1066 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,970 piece of research I want to share on them. Now, we should go 1067 01:05:50,970 --> 01:05:53,760 on. Thanks, some of our executive and associate 1068 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,150 producers, Associate Executive Producers regarding repeal and 1069 01:05:57,150 --> 01:06:03,900 replace a big lot of comments. Certainly, for people who are 1070 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:09,540 accusatory of the program, and say, Well, you know, there is no 1071 01:06:09,540 --> 01:06:12,990 replacement for the repeal, there is no Obamacare 1072 01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:17,730 replacement for the repeal. And I think that we already 1073 01:06:17,730 --> 01:06:22,290 discussed that Rand Paul, who is a doctor, who was a part of the 1074 01:06:22,290 --> 01:06:28,200 committee making the replace legislation released, at least 1075 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:33,300 his plan, which is Senate act two to two. And I found 1076 01:06:33,300 --> 01:06:37,890 something incredibly interesting in this proposed legislation. 1077 01:06:38,820 --> 01:06:43,080 But first, let me go run through some of the highlights. The what 1078 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:48,510 I'm what I'm seeing a lot of is making it easy. And for health 1079 01:06:48,510 --> 01:06:52,860 savings accounts, which I don't know if you remember, but I had 1080 01:06:52,860 --> 01:06:57,390 one of those through me view, I think it was like $2,000. And 1081 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:02,010 the way it worked, then is you get a credit card, which goes 1082 01:07:02,010 --> 01:07:04,020 through your company, because you can only do it through a 1083 01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:05,790 company couldn't do it privately, that's going to 1084 01:07:05,790 --> 01:07:10,470 change that. No. I'm telling you that's in the in the legislation 1085 01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:11,880 that's being proposed. Okay. 1086 01:07:11,910 --> 01:07:15,090 No, I'm just saying you could always do it privately until 1087 01:07:15,090 --> 01:07:16,890 Obamacare came along. Oh, I'm 1088 01:07:16,890 --> 01:07:20,460 sorry. Yes, and excellent point. And there's another and that's 1089 01:07:20,460 --> 01:07:23,610 where the gotcha is that I found. Thank you. So all that's 1090 01:07:23,610 --> 01:07:27,480 being turned back. Now we'll be up to two my problems were 1091 01:07:28,050 --> 01:07:32,310 everything, every single payment you made for anything, you had 1092 01:07:32,310 --> 01:07:35,640 to prove you had to send in receipts, you had to scan them, 1093 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:36,060 you had to 1094 01:07:36,090 --> 01:07:39,810 email your doctors have to do now for everything to show up. 1095 01:07:39,810 --> 01:07:39,990 Yeah, I 1096 01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:42,960 think the doctors do even more. And they were rejected, and they 1097 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,690 would reject things. And you know, really the only thing 1098 01:07:45,690 --> 01:07:49,800 you're getting from it, which is not to be discounted, is that 1099 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,010 money is tax free. So it's $2,000. It's, you know, right 1100 01:07:53,010 --> 01:07:54,870 off the top, there's no taxes being paid on. 1101 01:07:54,870 --> 01:07:59,340 So any like he writes on IRA is like an IRA. The proposal 1102 01:07:59,340 --> 01:08:04,500 is tax rate of up to $5,000 per HSA, but also removes the 1103 01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:08,970 maximum allowable annual contribution. So individuals may 1104 01:08:08,970 --> 01:08:12,180 make unlimited contributions to their health savings account, 1105 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:17,460 removes the s HSA plan type requirement to allow individuals 1106 01:08:17,460 --> 01:08:20,700 or types of insurance to establish and use the HSA. So it 1107 01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:23,550 won't will no longer be restricted the way it was, also 1108 01:08:23,550 --> 01:08:26,640 will allow for prescription and OTC drugs, which was not always 1109 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,450 allowed, you will also be allowed to use that tax free 1110 01:08:30,450 --> 01:08:35,880 money to pay for your insurance premium. This is huge. Oh, that 1111 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:40,920 has never been there. There also be bankruptcy, bankruptcy 1112 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:46,290 protection to the full extent of the law, which is not 100%. As 1113 01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:50,580 previously under Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act which I 1114 01:08:50,580 --> 01:08:52,710 read, by the way, this is why I'm doing this. I read that 1115 01:08:52,710 --> 01:08:58,410 whole thing. We knew what to expect, more or less under the 1116 01:08:58,410 --> 01:09:03,060 Affordable Care Act, or is it here I was talking and then I 1117 01:09:03,300 --> 01:09:07,380 Oh, yeah. If you go bankrupt, then that your HSA account could 1118 01:09:07,380 --> 01:09:12,990 be seized under the replacement as proposed. While some states 1119 01:09:12,990 --> 01:09:15,780 have passed laws that exempts HSA funds from being seized in 1120 01:09:15,780 --> 01:09:18,570 bankruptcy, there's no federal protection for HSA funds and 1121 01:09:18,570 --> 01:09:23,040 bankruptcy. But the government's going to try to to protect you, 1122 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,320 as much as part of the federal government have tried to protect 1123 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:29,010 you from that will also allow periodic fees paid to medical 1124 01:09:29,010 --> 01:09:33,450 practitioners for access to medical care, can be used for 1125 01:09:33,450 --> 01:09:37,560 prepaid physician fees, direct practice concierge medicine, 1126 01:09:37,620 --> 01:09:39,990 really anything. There was no really the restrictions have 1127 01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:45,630 just been lifted. You know, a couple of the things in 1128 01:09:46,170 --> 01:09:49,260 Obamacare the Affordable Care Act were touted as the big 1129 01:09:49,260 --> 01:09:52,890 marketing message. And this is the one that I didn't realize 1130 01:09:52,890 --> 01:09:57,360 and it kind of blew me away when I learned and that is, well I 1131 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,680 think the the three main In selling points of the Affordable 1132 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:06,120 Care Act where two 20 million people who don't have health 1133 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:10,620 care will now get health care, which is not health care, but at 1134 01:10:10,620 --> 01:10:19,860 least they have health care insurance. This this is now 1135 01:10:19,860 --> 01:10:24,390 going to change to be an expansion of Medicaid under the 1136 01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:28,080 proposed plan, which makes sense. So the states can then 1137 01:10:28,110 --> 01:10:33,450 deal with that as as they want. But the two other selling points 1138 01:10:33,450 --> 01:10:37,740 where your kids can stay on your plan until they're 26, which I 1139 01:10:37,740 --> 01:10:41,040 always thought was just additional money. I never 1140 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:45,000 thought that at all. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. 1141 01:10:45,540 --> 01:10:49,740 Thanks, Obama. Because you got kids who are out of the house at 1142 01:10:49,740 --> 01:10:54,030 21, they probably won't really have health insurance for the 1143 01:10:54,030 --> 01:10:57,900 first five or six years. Because the jobs they're getting the 1144 01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:00,900 places they work at, may not offer it. So I think it's it 1145 01:11:00,900 --> 01:11:04,110 behooves the insurance companies to at least have some money 1146 01:11:04,110 --> 01:11:06,330 because you know, being on your parents plan doesn't mean it's 1147 01:11:06,330 --> 01:11:10,350 free. You just on your parents plan, and you know, it could be 1148 01:11:10,350 --> 01:11:13,590 $500 A month extra. So to me, that was always like, yeah, 1149 01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:16,260 okay, great. So the insurance companies want to get that group 1150 01:11:16,260 --> 01:11:18,510 that's kind of hanging out there before we suck them into our 1151 01:11:18,510 --> 01:11:24,300 system. The third was preexisting conditions. Now, 1152 01:11:24,300 --> 01:11:29,400 this is still touted, certainly on the face bag as the most 1153 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,520 important piece of the Affordable Care Act legislation. 1154 01:11:32,850 --> 01:11:35,700 This is not a cue I'm asking you. Do you think that's true? 1155 01:11:35,700 --> 01:11:38,730 Is that it? Was that a big piece of it? Like a revolutionary act? 1156 01:11:39,540 --> 01:11:41,940 Yeah, it was the main thing they were that's I think, with all 1157 01:11:41,940 --> 01:11:46,050 the protests are always about? Well, because those are the sob 1158 01:11:46,050 --> 01:11:50,580 stories. That's how you sell the thing? Well, oh, you know, I had 1159 01:11:50,820 --> 01:11:53,880 breast cancer. I don't know yet. So let's say some condition. Ms. 1160 01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:57,300 I have MS. And I need all this help. And I need medication. And 1161 01:11:57,300 --> 01:12:00,240 then I got bounced from my, my insurance company. And so I 1162 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,120 didn't find another one. And the new one wouldn't pay for any of 1163 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,340 this, because it's a pre existing condition. Right. And 1164 01:12:05,340 --> 01:12:09,450 these stories were always used to there were good stories there 1165 01:12:09,450 --> 01:12:12,960 were accurate. And I think it's true. And so we're gonna have a 1166 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,410 big giant fund, because everyone's supposed to be all 1167 01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:19,680 gooey. And what's all been on this deal? It'd be there's more 1168 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,710 than enough leftover money, just look at the profits of the 1169 01:12:22,710 --> 01:12:25,440 insurance companies to pay for these poor people that have 1170 01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:27,780 these situations that we should we should help them very 1171 01:12:27,780 --> 01:12:28,920 socialistic, by the way. 1172 01:12:29,190 --> 01:12:33,510 Well, very similar to what you pointed out, that the Affordable 1173 01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:39,240 Care Act removed a lot of these great benefits of the health 1174 01:12:39,300 --> 01:12:42,930 savings account, which was clearly done to behoove the 1175 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,140 insurance companies to Yeah, let's not make that easy for 1176 01:12:46,140 --> 01:12:49,170 them. We don't want people paying their own way we want 1177 01:12:49,170 --> 01:12:54,660 them on the scam. Well, as a part of the replace, I did not 1178 01:12:54,660 --> 01:12:58,710 know this, when the Affordable Care Act came into existence, 1179 01:12:58,980 --> 01:13:06,600 the pre existing conditions protection replaced a 17 year 1180 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:11,640 law under HIPAA known as the HIPAA pre existing condition 1181 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:17,370 protection, which guaranteed those within a group market 1182 01:13:17,790 --> 01:13:21,300 could contain continuous health coverage regardless of pre 1183 01:13:21,300 --> 01:13:28,050 existing conditions. So I didn't know this. But you had pre 1184 01:13:28,050 --> 01:13:29,100 existing conditions 1185 01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:31,440 finition of a health market. 1186 01:13:31,890 --> 01:13:36,300 A group market means anything but private. So if you are part 1187 01:13:36,330 --> 01:13:42,120 of a group health insurance plan, through a company or AARP, 1188 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:48,360 or you could you could even be the ham radio club, any group 1189 01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:53,790 market coverage used to have and this was what Rand Paul is 1190 01:13:53,790 --> 01:13:58,020 proposing and as to to to restores HIPAA, preexisting 1191 01:13:58,020 --> 01:14:01,590 conditions protections, prior to Obamacare, HIPAA guaranteed 1192 01:14:01,590 --> 01:14:04,050 those within the group market could obtain continuous health 1193 01:14:04,050 --> 01:14:08,280 coverage regardless of pre existing conditions. It was 1194 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:09,330 always there. 1195 01:14:10,650 --> 01:14:13,080 It may be implementation issues here. 1196 01:14:14,190 --> 01:14:15,390 In what, what, in what manner? 1197 01:14:16,049 --> 01:14:19,649 It's like, well, yeah, but this is a disk group came in after 1198 01:14:19,649 --> 01:14:22,469 the HIPAA thing was passed. I mean, these guys are always 1199 01:14:22,469 --> 01:14:24,899 looking for the out. Oh, the insurance guy. Well, 1200 01:14:24,900 --> 01:14:28,080 no doubt, no doubt that we're looking for an out made another 1201 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,180 rhyme. But I'm a little pissed 1202 01:14:30,180 --> 01:14:32,370 off about that, Ryman today yeah, 1203 01:14:33,150 --> 01:14:38,310 that's that's pretty outrageous. We think they made it look like 1204 01:14:38,340 --> 01:14:43,770 ah, we've done something beyond the never heard of before. You 1205 01:14:43,770 --> 01:14:47,130 have cancer. You get health insurance. It was always like 1206 01:14:47,130 --> 01:14:47,520 that. 1207 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,690 Well, apparently it wasn't for everyone. I don't I don't know 1208 01:14:54,690 --> 01:14:58,050 that. Well, I don't know it either. But they didn't give it 1209 01:14:58,050 --> 01:14:59,370 to people. Let's put it that way. 1210 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,950 I don't know that. I mean, I don't know that either John. I'm 1211 01:15:01,950 --> 01:15:03,090 sorry. All I heard. 1212 01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:08,280 I hear a million people come out moaning and groaning Yeah. Yes. 1213 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,580 John on the news crying about how they get insurance come. 1214 01:15:11,850 --> 01:15:16,980 It's the same people, the same privilege people who are who 1215 01:15:17,790 --> 01:15:20,700 this is about privileged people thinking that everyone else is 1216 01:15:20,700 --> 01:15:24,930 getting screwed. And believing that and we have to 1217 01:15:24,930 --> 01:15:26,040 be on board with this. 1218 01:15:28,380 --> 01:15:31,320 We will find out a lot about HIPAA because we have a lot of 1219 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,310 people in the field who understand this. And what I 1220 01:15:35,310 --> 01:15:39,210 would like to know is what are the big differences between the 1221 01:15:39,210 --> 01:15:42,270 HIPAA pre existing conditions protection and the Affordable 1222 01:15:42,270 --> 01:15:47,520 Care Act? Existing pre existing conditions protection? That's 1223 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:48,270 what I'd like to know. 1224 01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:53,070 So to wrap it up, though, to skip that part. Is this a good? 1225 01:15:53,070 --> 01:15:54,900 Did you look to sorry, you thought it was a good idea? I 1226 01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:56,940 think Rand Paul's onto something. Maybe this would be 1227 01:15:56,940 --> 01:15:59,550 the good replacement to be better than Obamacare. Because 1228 01:15:59,670 --> 01:16:02,220 the fear according to do everything I've heard all these 1229 01:16:02,220 --> 01:16:08,430 people talking and yakking about it is that it will end up still 1230 01:16:08,430 --> 01:16:11,370 costing more somehow the insurance companies will still 1231 01:16:11,370 --> 01:16:15,600 scam the public. And they show they're reluctant to jump on 1232 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,060 board with anything because they have they have to study it to 1233 01:16:18,060 --> 01:16:18,450 death. 1234 01:16:18,990 --> 01:16:21,660 Okay, here's my conclusion. It's not It's I haven't marked up 1235 01:16:21,660 --> 01:16:25,590 actually in the show notes. 899 dot no agenda notes.com. A 1236 01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:29,490 couple of things that are done here, as I said, increasing from 1237 01:16:29,490 --> 01:16:34,440 state flexibility for Medicaid. That is the idea for poor people 1238 01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:37,980 which Medicaid is Medicaid is intended for poor people, they 1239 01:16:37,980 --> 01:16:41,310 will also be instituting flexibility to conduct to 1240 01:16:41,310 --> 01:16:48,660 conduct Medicaid waivers. It that is regarding poor people. 1241 01:16:48,660 --> 01:16:51,780 That's all I see. So is that really better? I don't know. And 1242 01:16:51,780 --> 01:16:55,740 depends on on how much you make available and what the states do 1243 01:16:55,770 --> 01:17:02,250 with that money. I do like the self insurance protections, you 1244 01:17:02,250 --> 01:17:08,880 will now be allowed to have a stop loss insurance as a as an 1245 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,970 employer, which is interesting. You couldn't have that 1246 01:17:11,970 --> 01:17:15,420 previously. And the way it doesn't even mean, okay. Okay. 1247 01:17:15,570 --> 01:17:18,810 So what you do is you have a small company, you have 10 1248 01:17:18,810 --> 01:17:21,780 people, I'm going to provide you with some health insurance, 1249 01:17:22,140 --> 01:17:27,510 it'll be you know, it's really on the business owner himself, 1250 01:17:27,570 --> 01:17:30,150 so that you can do that you can say, Alright, here's what we're 1251 01:17:30,150 --> 01:17:32,130 going to do for you for our health insurance plan. You don't 1252 01:17:32,190 --> 01:17:35,910 necessarily have to be insurance company. But you only do that, 1253 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,510 along with a stop loss insurance, which means if you 1254 01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:43,980 get hit by something like some multiple cancer person in your 1255 01:17:43,980 --> 01:17:47,730 company, and it's a huge bill, then you can have certain like 1256 01:17:47,730 --> 01:17:50,850 the almost like disaster insurance, I guess, that wasn't 1257 01:17:50,850 --> 01:17:54,390 allowed under the Affordable Care Act. So it's it's pushing 1258 01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:58,530 back, responsibility, accountability, back onto the 1259 01:17:58,530 --> 01:18:02,070 people. And the way they want to make it cheaper, of course, is 1260 01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:07,500 by removing all of the interstate commerce, between 1261 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,620 work for insurance companies, between states, they're 1262 01:18:10,650 --> 01:18:14,250 obviously trying to break up this monopoly, which I think is 1263 01:18:14,250 --> 01:18:17,490 what needs to be done. Now. Will this result immediately in lower 1264 01:18:17,490 --> 01:18:20,160 cost? And we'll shake out? No, I think that takes a while before 1265 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:24,600 you get there before a market understands about any of this 1266 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:25,500 game demand, 1267 01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:29,580 save any money if the thing is a collusive arrangement between 1268 01:18:29,580 --> 01:18:32,850 the insurance companies and the drug companies so they can rack 1269 01:18:32,850 --> 01:18:36,210 up the price of the drugs and the insurance companies then pay 1270 01:18:36,210 --> 01:18:39,510 them more money and then take a bigger debt. So they become a 1271 01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:42,360 bigger company because they have to charge bigger premiums to pay 1272 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,910 for these drug companies. And they still only well we only 1273 01:18:44,910 --> 01:18:49,170 make 2% profit. I mean, the the scam to me has always been that 1274 01:18:49,170 --> 01:18:51,450 collusion. Anything else? 1275 01:18:51,510 --> 01:18:55,440 Yeah. That I don't think is addressed. 1276 01:18:57,060 --> 01:18:59,370 That doesn't address anything as far as I'm concerned. 1277 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:01,980 How would you propose addressing that 1278 01:19:04,530 --> 01:19:06,330 Medicare, Medicare for everyone, 1279 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,300 Medicare and Medicaid, you 1280 01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:14,820 Medicaid is Medicaid is not has nothing to do with Medicare. 1281 01:19:14,820 --> 01:19:15,030 Right. 1282 01:19:15,030 --> 01:19:16,680 So what is Medicare 1283 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,840 for people? And it says it's something of a scam. If you 1284 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,960 really look into it, Medicaid is still they take your property 1285 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,200 and they try to make it pay anyway. Medicare is it's the 1286 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:33,900 American way, man. What's your problem? Medicare is the is 1287 01:19:33,930 --> 01:19:39,720 socialized medicine for people over 65. Okay, right. And 1288 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,690 everybody likes it and people will vote their representatives 1289 01:19:42,690 --> 01:19:46,110 out of office if they take it away. And it's in the bend the 1290 01:19:46,110 --> 01:19:49,350 Democrats liked to ridicule the right the right wingers because 1291 01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:52,590 all the old retirees who are Republicans always say you do 1292 01:19:52,590 --> 01:19:55,410 anything you want, but you don't touch my Social Security or my 1293 01:19:55,410 --> 01:20:00,000 Medicare. And those are two socialized systems and that 1294 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,650 Democrats like to point and laugh at. Those Republicans are 1295 01:20:04,650 --> 01:20:06,510 a bunch of hypocrites. They don't want this. They don't want 1296 01:20:06,510 --> 01:20:08,310 that. But to hear that, when they have it, they like it. 1297 01:20:09,450 --> 01:20:15,300 Well, we'll see what happens. I personally was surprised about 1298 01:20:15,300 --> 01:20:18,900 the HIPAA pre existing condition protection. Yeah, that's really 1299 01:20:18,900 --> 01:20:21,780 a clarification. Because that was really, you know, that was 1300 01:20:21,780 --> 01:20:24,630 such a huge selling point. You know, just like the HSA 1301 01:20:24,630 --> 01:20:28,650 accounts, just swapping things in and out. So we'll see what 1302 01:20:28,650 --> 01:20:31,170 else comes in, of course, there will be amendments and all kinds 1303 01:20:31,170 --> 01:20:33,420 of things will be happening. I'm happy though, there's one thing 1304 01:20:33,420 --> 01:20:35,070 I like about this administration, they're 1305 01:20:35,070 --> 01:20:37,620 publishing, they're publishing the publishing and getting stuff 1306 01:20:37,620 --> 01:20:42,930 out and I can read it is also maybe it's just my could be my 1307 01:20:42,930 --> 01:20:46,920 imagination, it feels like the language used is not quite as 1308 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:51,090 lawyer free, as it typically is, or that it was for the past 1309 01:20:51,090 --> 01:20:55,590 eight years. There's much more simple language, there's not. I 1310 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,440 mean, wow, I mean, some of these Obama executive orders, they'll 1311 01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:01,350 be references to 15 different pieces of legislation have to 1312 01:21:01,350 --> 01:21:04,320 find each individual paragraph. That seems to be a lot easier 1313 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:08,250 here. And there's also preamble which seems a little more 1314 01:21:08,250 --> 01:21:11,460 conversational. Good for me, because guess what, I'm not a 1315 01:21:11,460 --> 01:21:15,180 lawyer. I'm just the guy who reads in and Googles a lot, 1316 01:21:15,809 --> 01:21:19,139 according to well, let's play this last clip before we skip to 1317 01:21:19,139 --> 01:21:23,879 the end. Yep. This is Brooks on David Brooks and shields are on 1318 01:21:23,879 --> 01:21:26,939 the PBS. It's just become annoying. It's my number one 1319 01:21:26,939 --> 01:21:29,879 annoyance, because they're supposed to have these two guys 1320 01:21:29,879 --> 01:21:33,239 that are arguing about stuff that are supposed to be from 1321 01:21:33,239 --> 01:21:37,169 different perspectives. But both are from the exact same kind of 1322 01:21:37,169 --> 01:21:41,489 Democrat globalist New World Order agenda. Brooks is supposed 1323 01:21:41,489 --> 01:21:43,949 to be the Republican and shields want to be the Democrat, but 1324 01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:46,979 Brooks is a Trump hater and makes no sense. They should get 1325 01:21:46,979 --> 01:21:49,679 rid of him. He's makes funny money in the New York Times, he 1326 01:21:49,679 --> 01:21:52,649 doesn't need to be doing this gig. And he's, he's beside 1327 01:21:52,649 --> 01:21:56,579 himself doing this gig. And now, unlike these other guys who say 1328 01:21:56,579 --> 01:22:00,509 that Trump is lazy, Brooke says the guy's doing too much work. 1329 01:22:00,509 --> 01:22:04,769 And he's a maniac and he should be shot. smallness. I'm sorry. 1330 01:22:05,279 --> 01:22:06,929 No, I'm sorry, you baby. I was good. 1331 01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,840 Yeah, I thought you cued me. But clearly I did. Yeah. 1332 01:22:10,110 --> 01:22:13,800 the smallness of his preoccupation about the size of 1333 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,190 the crowd, which he keeps returning to in a, in a rather 1334 01:22:17,190 --> 01:22:18,060 bizarre fashion. 1335 01:22:18,090 --> 01:22:19,530 How do you see this first week? David 1336 01:22:19,530 --> 01:22:21,780 does we were here a week ago together And it feels like a 1337 01:22:21,780 --> 01:22:24,990 century. And I wonder over the course of his presidency, can he 1338 01:22:24,990 --> 01:22:29,430 keep up this pace of news and busyness and conflict without 1339 01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:32,880 just exhausting everybody? And I will say among business people 1340 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,150 I've spoken to among political finance and among Republicans on 1341 01:22:36,150 --> 01:22:39,960 the elites, just a great sense of being unnerved, unnerved at 1342 01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,570 the instability. Part of the he's done what he said as Mark 1343 01:22:42,570 --> 01:22:45,960 said he's undermined the post world international order pretty 1344 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:50,610 quickly. Turning down TPP was a bill that I think economists 1345 01:22:50,610 --> 01:22:52,380 they would have produced hundreds of millions and 1346 01:22:52,380 --> 01:22:56,430 billions of dollars earnings every year for bullshit, picking 1347 01:22:56,430 --> 01:23:00,150 a fight with their second biggest export market. very 1348 01:23:00,150 --> 01:23:03,750 unnerving. I don't see the but then I think the two of the 1349 01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:08,100 things I'd say is the general sense of chaos and incompetence 1350 01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:10,110 and how you do it. Okay, you want to pick a fight with 1351 01:23:10,110 --> 01:23:13,080 mixing? Do you have to do it by tweet? Do you have to put a poor 1352 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,570 word of proposals that would have Americans paying for the 1353 01:23:15,570 --> 01:23:17,820 wall and then sort of withdraw it and then sort of not withdraw 1354 01:23:17,820 --> 01:23:21,330 it? Do it in a way maximally designed to polarize Mexican 1355 01:23:21,330 --> 01:23:24,300 opinion against the United States? And then the final thing 1356 01:23:24,300 --> 01:23:27,900 is, I wonder I'm left wondering how much of this is real? Okay, 1357 01:23:27,900 --> 01:23:30,510 he signs a series of papers that Steve Bannon and others wrote 1358 01:23:30,510 --> 01:23:32,940 for him, but who's going to implement it doesn't make any 1359 01:23:32,940 --> 01:23:35,280 sense. We saw that with the Syrian ban in the discussion 1360 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,070 early in the program. How much is the government just gonna let 1361 01:23:38,070 --> 01:23:41,460 him sign papers? And and it just goes along their merry way? 1362 01:23:42,630 --> 01:23:48,720 Bullshit. Now, this guy's name is just horrible. And let me 1363 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,690 mention one thing, and we have to put back on the because 1364 01:23:51,690 --> 01:23:56,430 people seem to be ignoring this. Trump. Nobody wanted the TPP the 1365 01:23:56,430 --> 01:23:59,160 Democrats or the Republicans, it was so bad on the Democrat side 1366 01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,800 that Hillary had to change your mind and just say, I don't like 1367 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,650 it. Yeah. And she was all for it, she thought was one of the 1368 01:24:04,650 --> 01:24:08,400 best things ever, which he harped on to the TPP, the Trans 1369 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:13,470 Pacific Partnership. Outcome all of a sudden, guys like Brooks, 1370 01:24:13,470 --> 01:24:16,320 they Well, what a broad millions and billions of dollars. So 1371 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:20,280 American somehow, this is a secret agreement, we have to 1372 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,960 remember this. No one has seen this agreement. It hasn't been 1373 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:29,580 published while I'm writing, but you read some of it. But the 1374 01:24:29,700 --> 01:24:33,390 stuff about all the way the sovereignty of the country being 1375 01:24:33,390 --> 01:24:36,120 violated by corporate corporations and the rest of it 1376 01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:40,140 where corporations have a bigger role in the world than then 1377 01:24:40,230 --> 01:24:44,580 countries do. And all the rest of it. There's no economist 1378 01:24:44,580 --> 01:24:47,940 who's actually seeing the entire document to say that it's going 1379 01:24:47,940 --> 01:24:50,670 to bring money or nothing it could bring zip into the country 1380 01:24:50,670 --> 01:24:56,760 for all we know, right? It's crazy to do put down on his dude 1381 01:24:56,850 --> 01:25:00,960 to throw that at Trump as a bad thing. When it Everybody on both 1382 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,740 parties, both parties thought it was something you had to 1383 01:25:04,740 --> 01:25:08,490 discard. And he discarded it. And now it's bad. Yeah, 1384 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,250 according to Brooks, yeah, of course. How does that work? How 1385 01:25:11,250 --> 01:25:13,200 does that work when Hillary thought was bad too, 1386 01:25:13,230 --> 01:25:18,270 because those guys are the true Trump derangement syndrome 1387 01:25:18,270 --> 01:25:24,360 people. Well, you heard this one, huh? It's annoying guys. 1388 01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,840 Very annoying. Meanwhile, and then we'll get into our breaks 1389 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,780 and you brought up Mexico, former president of Mexico, 1390 01:25:30,780 --> 01:25:34,500 Vincent J. Fox, he did have something to say about Trump as 1391 01:25:34,500 --> 01:25:37,800 a former guy, because he hates Trump hates white people. 1392 01:25:39,150 --> 01:25:44,850 Please, please don't say that. Because that's some style. We're 1393 01:25:44,850 --> 01:25:51,180 not paying for that wall. Not now. Not ever. Let me say yes, 1394 01:25:51,180 --> 01:25:58,710 we are have been harmed. We don't like that. By why you see 1395 01:25:58,710 --> 01:26:00,930 all sitting on the presidential chair, 1396 01:26:01,230 --> 01:26:05,910 a white us CEO sitting on the presidential chair. Now you go. 1397 01:26:07,710 --> 01:26:10,560 Give me this to get cola for that obvious racism. 1398 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:15,420 Because the people who are talking to him are all on board 1399 01:26:15,420 --> 01:26:19,500 with white guilt, white privilege, white gold dudes. 1400 01:26:20,490 --> 01:26:24,450 They're all on board with it. We are the white men are more hated 1401 01:26:24,450 --> 01:26:25,290 than Donald Trump. 1402 01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,700 Well, according to some people, white women are getting in that 1403 01:26:29,700 --> 01:26:32,430 same they're getting in that same position. last clip that I 1404 01:26:32,430 --> 01:26:40,590 have. All right. This is joy read at the DNC when they they 1405 01:26:40,590 --> 01:26:43,620 have this meeting of all these people, you can have other 1406 01:26:43,620 --> 01:26:46,140 clips, I'm sure there's not the one you have. They have all 1407 01:26:46,140 --> 01:26:48,180 these people. They all want to be the head of the DNC and then 1408 01:26:48,180 --> 01:26:53,880 mostly, it's called dem in color meeting gets they won. Oh, no, 1409 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:58,920 they do not want YT. And they want the Democrat Party is 1410 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:05,070 actually going to kind of become a minority, just only Latinos 1411 01:27:05,070 --> 01:27:07,320 and blacks. And Chinese white 1412 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:11,460 Democrats are going to be in our camp pretty soon. Yes. With 1413 01:27:11,460 --> 01:27:13,740 white old white guys. Yeah. Oh, 1414 01:27:14,370 --> 01:27:16,560 okay. Well, let's play this. And you'll hear a good example. This 1415 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:16,680 is 1416 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:21,180 actually beautiful. So there is a blowback of epic proportions 1417 01:27:21,270 --> 01:27:23,820 from the very same people who brought you who brought you 1418 01:27:23,820 --> 01:27:26,880 white privilege. These people are now being ousted because of 1419 01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:31,050 their white privilege. This fantastic. Marika 1420 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,840 Dixon Maher lines on statistics, I'm gonna come back to even more 1421 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,680 statistics because I do love a number. And the reality is that 1422 01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,350 that sounds really good and you all sound very ecumenical. And I 1423 01:27:40,350 --> 01:27:42,240 think that's important, but ecumenical. 1424 01:27:42,510 --> 01:27:43,980 What does this word mean? Document. 1425 01:27:44,339 --> 01:27:48,359 They're all they're all. It's a it's a kind of it's a, it's a 1426 01:27:48,359 --> 01:27:51,719 term that refers to a bunch of people with different opinions, 1427 01:27:51,719 --> 01:27:54,719 slightly different opinions, but it all kind of in in a larger 1428 01:27:54,719 --> 01:27:55,379 agreement. 1429 01:27:56,460 --> 01:27:59,010 Okay, sounds really good. And you all sound very ecumenical. 1430 01:27:59,010 --> 01:28:01,290 And I think that's important. But we also know that racially 1431 01:28:01,290 --> 01:28:04,560 polarized voting is the reality in the United States. And that 1432 01:28:04,590 --> 01:28:08,700 it's just a fact. Right? And that Democrats have invested 1433 01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:12,390 heavily in trying to win over. And the Clinton campaign 1434 01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:15,810 invested heavily in trying to win over, particularly white 1435 01:28:15,810 --> 01:28:19,020 college educated women, they invested their resources there. 1436 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:24,450 And my question, which all of you very skillfully evaded, was 1437 01:28:24,450 --> 01:28:32,280 whether they made a mistake in not devoting more resources. A 1438 01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,740 man was very direct, and Jamie, who were very direct, so I'll 1439 01:28:34,740 --> 01:28:37,020 come to those who didn't answer directly. I think Jammu and 1440 01:28:37,020 --> 01:28:40,380 Jamie said, yeah, they made a mistake. Right. But I'm gonna 1441 01:28:40,380 --> 01:28:44,310 come back, Sally to you again, because the question is, whether 1442 01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:50,160 or not the DNC D Triple C, D, SCC and the Clinton campaign 1443 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:54,240 were in error in devoting so many television commercials to 1444 01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,630 our kids are watching not enough television commercials to 1445 01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,620 African American radio, as Keith Ellison said, so many resources 1446 01:29:01,620 --> 01:29:05,010 to trying to win over, you know, white voters in Arizona and 1447 01:29:05,010 --> 01:29:08,790 poach additional Republican voters based on Donald Trump's 1448 01:29:08,940 --> 01:29:13,650 you know, poor standing among Americans and not enough in GOTV 1449 01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,080 in Cleveland, whether or not that was an error. 1450 01:29:16,710 --> 01:29:19,440 I definitely think that the way that those resources were 1451 01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:22,080 targeted, didn't work. We didn't win the election at the end of 1452 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:22,500 the day. 1453 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:24,570 Oh, thank goodness, we have an end of 1454 01:29:24,570 --> 01:29:27,660 the day. She's the one who says they gotta tell ya to shut up. 1455 01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:36,180 That woman is never in all these conversations, and I'm done. Do 1456 01:29:36,180 --> 01:29:39,990 they ever say you know, maybe we had a flawed candidate? 1457 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,680 No, of course not. Why would we say that? It's everyone's fault 1458 01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,520 except the candidate our party is our opinion. We couldn't have 1459 01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,680 done it wrong. Is because of hate. 1460 01:29:50,130 --> 01:29:53,610 Now it's the white college educated women who voted mostly 1461 01:29:53,610 --> 01:29:57,360 for Trump. Yeah, that are like why we will just ditch them 1462 01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,900 because they're no good. It was just we should get more black 1463 01:30:00,900 --> 01:30:04,320 votes out. That's unbelievable. 1464 01:30:04,380 --> 01:30:08,910 No, it's completely believable. Sadly, it's just yeah, well we 1465 01:30:08,910 --> 01:30:12,930 welcome all the white women then you two are now shunned. Hey 1466 01:30:12,930 --> 01:30:17,400 Whitey, over to Whitey Ville? Why do you get shut up? I think 1467 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,030 White should not be allowed to vote. Let's do that. Let's give 1468 01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:25,410 us 40 years of no votes We'll even it out it'd be fair. And 1469 01:30:25,410 --> 01:30:28,230 with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the 1470 01:30:28,230 --> 01:30:33,450 morning to you John soon as he stands for chicken truck Devorah 1471 01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,280 in the morning, you Mr. Adam curry in the morning on a ship 1472 01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:40,710 at sea boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the 1473 01:30:40,710 --> 01:30:42,390 water all the dames knights Hey, and 1474 01:30:42,390 --> 01:30:45,510 in the morning to all of our artists who are happy to 1475 01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:48,150 contribute to the program as part of their value for value. 1476 01:30:48,150 --> 01:30:53,220 It's a no it's the no agenda Art Generator generator.com for 1477 01:30:53,220 --> 01:30:56,160 Episode Eight, nine or eight chain of Lies We had a nice 1478 01:30:56,160 --> 01:31:00,450 piece of art that came to us from comic strip blogger who 1479 01:31:00,450 --> 01:31:05,880 brought us the that was the the crazy tangerine. 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Now 1490 01:31:34,529 --> 01:31:38,039 let's thanks some people John, your rabid what like crazy over 1491 01:31:38,039 --> 01:31:43,469 the top Trump supporters they are yeah there's many of them in 1492 01:31:43,469 --> 01:31:44,369 the chat room Sure. 1493 01:31:45,030 --> 01:31:47,250 Sure. As you know, I don't go to the chat now but 1494 01:31:47,250 --> 01:31:50,100 as you know I'm there because sometimes they're helpful as a 1495 01:31:50,100 --> 01:31:53,010 producer and they give me corrections information and 1496 01:31:53,010 --> 01:31:54,060 stuff that we need to know 1497 01:31:55,710 --> 01:32:05,640 that you theory okay. Oh here we go. Hi, John. And Adam. This is 1498 01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:10,410 from Brad read Walker and spring Texas. He's the one and only 1499 01:32:10,770 --> 01:32:13,380 segment producer for the show. 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However I do like to globalist versus this really 1559 01:36:14,550 --> 01:36:18,030 Howard's not the right word should be and and I do like to 1560 01:36:18,030 --> 01:36:21,720 globalist versus the nationalist hypothesis. Thank you 1561 01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:25,050 for correcting our donors grammar 1562 01:36:26,010 --> 01:36:32,280 sorry it's really nice of you. Why not? Now is this in the same 1563 01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,890 note because they can't tell from my spreadsheet 1564 01:36:34,919 --> 01:36:38,399 I what I what I have is book report must read Thomas souls 1565 01:36:38,429 --> 01:36:43,109 intellectuals in society 2009 It explains it all. So we should 1566 01:36:43,109 --> 01:36:44,789 put that in the book club. I have not read that have you 1567 01:36:45,599 --> 01:36:48,809 know, I haven't been I've always been a fan of soul even though 1568 01:36:48,809 --> 01:36:56,339 he's a jerk. He when I was writing op ed for the San 1569 01:36:56,339 --> 01:36:58,889 Francisco Examiner, he was also in the coming in through the 1570 01:36:58,889 --> 01:37:01,829 syndicate. And he never take a call or you wouldn't talk to 1571 01:37:01,829 --> 01:37:05,459 anybody. It's just a very standoffish guy what to do, but 1572 01:37:05,459 --> 01:37:10,859 this stuff is this material is fantastic. He's black, and 1573 01:37:10,889 --> 01:37:15,629 everyone will talk bring him up as any sort of a character to 1574 01:37:15,629 --> 01:37:19,259 talk to you. I think part of the reason is he may be a irascible 1575 01:37:19,859 --> 01:37:22,079 and not interested in doing so you never see him on a talk 1576 01:37:22,079 --> 01:37:22,349 show. 1577 01:37:22,530 --> 01:37:25,710 Okay, well, Ray, you never see us on a talk show either. 1578 01:37:26,580 --> 01:37:29,250 Yeah, we used to you're on the ground. Guys talk show all the 1579 01:37:29,250 --> 01:37:33,060 time. When talk show The Infowars 1580 01:37:33,090 --> 01:37:41,940 Infowars the view now. Okay, you know what I mean? I found the ad 1581 01:37:41,970 --> 01:37:44,940 agency might help. I heard I found a murder someone sent me a 1582 01:37:44,940 --> 01:37:49,410 version of the Michael Jackson MSNBC MSNBC clip. Finally got 1583 01:37:49,410 --> 01:37:51,000 that I put in the show. It's the one 1584 01:37:51,090 --> 01:37:55,200 you somehow that's valuable that you somehow lost in your 1585 01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:55,860 archives. 1586 01:37:55,890 --> 01:38:00,690 Yeah, it's worse because this is it's the clip but it's the clip 1587 01:38:00,690 --> 01:38:03,510 where we're also talking over it but it's cut down if you want to 1588 01:38:03,510 --> 01:38:06,390 hear it's 50 seconds if you want to hear it. I always like to 1589 01:38:06,390 --> 01:38:10,320 clip this is when Michael Jackson passed away. MSNBC calm 1590 01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:14,010 it's a long clip where they talk about MTV and all this bullcrap. 1591 01:38:14,130 --> 01:38:15,990 There seems to be an insatiable appetite 1592 01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:16,440 for this. 1593 01:38:17,370 --> 01:38:20,730 Yes, absolutely. And I'm amazed that you're showing the footage 1594 01:38:20,730 --> 01:38:23,070 and everyone seems to be showing the footage of these rehearsals 1595 01:38:23,070 --> 01:38:26,820 just two days before. Here's a guy who clearly was in great 1596 01:38:26,820 --> 01:38:32,850 physical shape. He had 3040 concerts coming up in the auteur 1597 01:38:32,850 --> 01:38:36,630 Arena in London. That's a huge production, you have to be 1598 01:38:36,630 --> 01:38:39,660 preparing yourself a year in advance, at least physically. 1599 01:38:39,930 --> 01:38:42,870 You can't put on a show like that without an enormous 1600 01:38:42,870 --> 01:38:46,410 insurance coverage, which includes a tremendous amount of 1601 01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:50,250 physical testing so I'm amazed at what happened that I know 1602 01:38:50,250 --> 01:38:54,630 that there's breaking news about some form of medical medicinal 1603 01:38:54,630 --> 01:38:57,720 drugs that were found in his home quite by family means that 1604 01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:02,340 no one is looking at a murder angle on this. We shall see that 1605 01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:11,010 pregnant pause boom and I was out Yeah. Start the clip music 1606 01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,670 dude. All right, we shall see Duman and never heard from him 1607 01:39:14,670 --> 01:39:18,990 again never know. Invited by I don't think it'd be much of a 1608 01:39:18,990 --> 01:39:24,360 pundit ever. I do want to thank Fred and Lynn for we in the 1609 01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,510 game. Um, no, of course not playing the game. I might have 1610 01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:30,030 to though you never know. He's donated it was our last that was 1611 01:39:30,030 --> 01:39:36,870 our last donation for the associates. So Lynn and Fred 1612 01:39:36,870 --> 01:39:39,750 they send me I don't know if you got anything from them. They 1613 01:39:39,750 --> 01:39:43,170 sent me a beautiful I have to make take a picture of this. A 1614 01:39:43,170 --> 01:39:48,990 Dutch Delft blue. It's kind of like a little plate. And it has 1615 01:39:49,020 --> 01:39:51,510 been has the bed is made in Delft. It's made in the 1616 01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:55,470 Netherlands hand painted with a little Delft blue designs in the 1617 01:39:55,470 --> 01:39:58,230 middle of windmill and it says coins of the Netherlands and it 1618 01:39:58,230 --> 01:40:02,850 has all The Old Dutch guilder the Gilder denomination the two 1619 01:40:02,850 --> 01:40:07,080 and a half Gilder the 50 cent the five cent 10 cent 25 cent 1620 01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:13,350 the Gilder. It's a nice little piece I guess you didn't get a 1621 01:40:13,380 --> 01:40:17,310 no, no, I didn't based on your response you didn't get anything 1622 01:40:18,480 --> 01:40:21,900 I didn't get I don't have the name of the of the producer who 1623 01:40:21,900 --> 01:40:24,450 sent this because it's downstairs, but he sent me a 1624 01:40:24,450 --> 01:40:27,240 bunch of podcasting buttons. You get the podcast? Oh, I didn't 1625 01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:31,890 get it. Podcasting button is a big giant button. asked me about 1626 01:40:31,890 --> 01:40:36,870 my big ones. I'll tweet it out. You probably guessed common, 1627 01:40:37,500 --> 01:40:39,690 instead says unless you send them all to me expecting me to 1628 01:40:39,690 --> 01:40:47,220 send half to you. It says hello, I'm a podcaster ask me about my 1629 01:40:47,220 --> 01:40:48,060 podcast. 1630 01:40:49,410 --> 01:40:56,190 I need I need. I need them. That's fantastic. All right, if 1631 01:40:56,190 --> 01:40:58,740 I thank you so much. Thank you to our executive producers, our 1632 01:40:58,740 --> 01:41:02,220 Associate Executive Producers shortlist today. Also, it'll be 1633 01:41:02,220 --> 01:41:05,550 a short list for 50 and above, which we'll be doing later on. 1634 01:41:05,700 --> 01:41:08,370 But this is part of the system the way it's supposed to work 1635 01:41:08,370 --> 01:41:12,180 value for value. If you find value, then you return the value 1636 01:41:12,180 --> 01:41:16,200 is any way you can. And we again thank our executive and 1637 01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:18,480 Associate Executive Producers remember another show coming up 1638 01:41:18,480 --> 01:41:19,200 on Thursdays 1639 01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:22,980 at VO red.org/and. A maybe you 1640 01:41:22,980 --> 01:41:24,720 could take some of the information you learned on 1641 01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:27,090 today's show and go out and propagate the formula with it. 1642 01:41:27,180 --> 01:41:42,720 Our formula is this. We go out, we get people in the mouth shut 1643 01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:43,440 us. 1644 01:41:52,590 --> 01:41:54,630 Right, remember to take your meds 1645 01:41:55,860 --> 01:42:01,230 I was I was watching a C span. And they had one of those little 1646 01:42:01,230 --> 01:42:04,500 meetings that I love when they have them this one of these kind 1647 01:42:04,500 --> 01:42:07,260 of Think Tank organizations and they have these experts up 1648 01:42:07,260 --> 01:42:10,920 there. And they just use a bunch of professionals in there asking 1649 01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,710 him questions back and forth. Anyway, I just thought this was 1650 01:42:13,710 --> 01:42:16,410 interesting because it just confirmed everything we said on 1651 01:42:16,410 --> 01:42:20,700 the show. And something that the mainstream media refused to even 1652 01:42:20,700 --> 01:42:25,410 discuss, which is the icy report the intelligence community 1653 01:42:25,410 --> 01:42:28,920 report on the Russian hacking with the one disclaimer in there 1654 01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:35,880 the NSA saying they had moderate confidence. This is a guy who's 1655 01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:38,100 as Lcia guy who used to be the head 1656 01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:40,320 of Russia. Okay, it's Robert David Steele. 1657 01:42:41,610 --> 01:42:44,130 It is George Bibi. Great. 1658 01:42:44,339 --> 01:42:46,469 I have another old CIA guy. Perfect. 1659 01:42:46,500 --> 01:42:50,280 Okay, well, let's listen to George BB. Who is a very erudite 1660 01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:52,800 guy, and he's knows the ropes and how things should be done. 1661 01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:56,040 And he uses the word I guess we've net we didn't use when we 1662 01:42:56,040 --> 01:43:00,180 did the exact same analysis, which is red flag. And this is 1663 01:43:00,180 --> 01:43:01,590 George on the ISC report. 1664 01:43:05,190 --> 01:43:09,180 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the presentations. My 1665 01:43:09,180 --> 01:43:13,470 question is for George BV. And it pushes a little further on 1666 01:43:13,470 --> 01:43:14,160 the area that 1667 01:43:15,059 --> 01:43:17,459 Karen what? I'm sorry, John, what does the setting of this 1668 01:43:17,459 --> 01:43:18,539 this is a speech? 1669 01:43:19,410 --> 01:43:22,140 No, no, no, this is one of those closed meeting closed. 1670 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:25,230 Oh, so this is something that wasn't supposed to get out? Is 1671 01:43:25,230 --> 01:43:25,440 this? 1672 01:43:25,769 --> 01:43:28,349 No, no, it was supposed to get out. But it's one of those who 1673 01:43:28,349 --> 01:43:29,519 sees it. I got you. 1674 01:43:30,450 --> 01:43:34,290 Karen de Yong brought up but also takes us back to Graham 1675 01:43:34,290 --> 01:43:37,800 Allison's Excellent question, which is still on the floor, and 1676 01:43:38,580 --> 01:43:42,630 questions about the dossier and all of that. But I wanted to ask 1677 01:43:42,630 --> 01:43:46,890 you to give us your judgment as an intelligence professional. 1678 01:43:47,700 --> 01:43:50,610 How the statement by the intelligence community is with 1679 01:43:50,610 --> 01:43:54,390 all of the caveats you put in, but also all of the warnings you 1680 01:43:54,390 --> 01:43:57,330 put in all the criticism he put in? How could this have 1681 01:43:57,330 --> 01:43:57,840 happened? 1682 01:44:04,410 --> 01:44:07,200 Well, I really don't know the answer to that. I think the 1683 01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:10,200 simplest explanation is that they have some very conclusive 1684 01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,410 classified evidence, which is driven their their judgments. 1685 01:44:13,710 --> 01:44:18,360 That's the easiest thing to do. I'm a little skeptical that 1686 01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:22,950 that's the case. Why is that? A couple of things. One in the 1687 01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:26,940 intelligence community report itself. There's an interesting 1688 01:44:26,940 --> 01:44:31,770 caveat. The NSA had only moderate content in one of the 1689 01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:36,900 reports significant judgments. That's a red flag. And then the 1690 01:44:36,900 --> 01:44:40,830 thing, the National Security Agency, yes, the National 1691 01:44:40,830 --> 01:44:44,970 Security Agency. That suggests to me that the kind of evidence 1692 01:44:44,970 --> 01:44:47,940 that they've gotten in the classified world is not all that 1693 01:44:47,940 --> 01:44:53,700 conclusive. So that's number one. The second thing is given 1694 01:44:53,970 --> 01:44:57,300 the political atmosphere that we're experiencing now in 1695 01:44:57,300 --> 01:45:00,000 Washington, which I think Paul has is very accurately to 1696 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,690 described, and the degree to which we're able to keep these 1697 01:45:03,690 --> 01:45:08,790 sorts of things secret genuinely in that atmosphere. I'm 1698 01:45:08,790 --> 01:45:11,910 suspicious that if we really had that kind of evidence in the 1699 01:45:11,910 --> 01:45:15,600 classified world that we would know that either directly or 1700 01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:19,260 indirectly in the public domain, so I suspect that we really 1701 01:45:19,260 --> 01:45:21,750 don't have that kind of conclusive evidence in the 1702 01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:25,500 classified world. So now, how do we end up with a report that we 1703 01:45:25,500 --> 01:45:30,180 wound up with a lot of potential explanations, as mentioned 1704 01:45:30,180 --> 01:45:33,450 earlier, that cognitive bias tendencies that we all share, 1705 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:40,260 that that might explain a lot of all of this, the pressures that 1706 01:45:40,260 --> 01:45:45,510 can occur bureaucratically, and organizationally, time deadlines 1707 01:45:45,510 --> 01:45:50,010 that are underway, the separation of sets of expertise 1708 01:45:50,010 --> 01:45:53,880 within the community, all of that may have had a role to play 1709 01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,790 in all of this, but I'm speculating. Wait, wait, 1710 01:45:56,820 --> 01:46:00,090 there's political stuff going on in the intelligence community? 1711 01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:02,700 Oh, don't say, I would 1712 01:46:02,700 --> 01:46:05,490 have never guessed that's impossible. Now, if you want to 1713 01:46:05,490 --> 01:46:08,610 go to yours, you want to play he also has some some thoughts on 1714 01:46:08,610 --> 01:46:09,540 the dossier. 1715 01:46:09,570 --> 01:46:13,530 Not so let's hear the day you mean the dossier of the bed 1716 01:46:13,530 --> 01:46:14,550 wedding dossier, 1717 01:46:14,580 --> 01:46:15,810 the bed wedding guy. Yeah. 1718 01:46:16,830 --> 01:46:18,060 Back to Graham's question. 1719 01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:26,550 Yes. The dossier. There for Senator. Apparently not. On the 1720 01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:29,610 dossier. I think there are a couple of questions here. One is 1721 01:46:29,610 --> 01:46:34,410 how do you actually that something like this hard thing 1722 01:46:34,410 --> 01:46:38,970 to do? CIA would typically approach this by looking at the 1723 01:46:38,970 --> 01:46:42,600 sourcing and sub sourcing very critically, it's impossible to 1724 01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:48,210 do really, in this case, the next case would be looking for 1725 01:46:48,210 --> 01:46:51,090 facts that are reporting this that you can verify, you know, 1726 01:46:51,090 --> 01:46:54,540 was so and so in a particular place at a certain time that's 1727 01:46:54,540 --> 01:46:57,720 verifiable, it only gets you so far, though, and really 1728 01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:02,040 investigating the veracity of the claims. And in this alleged 1729 01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:06,630 report, which I have not actually seen, by the way, there 1730 01:47:06,630 --> 01:47:10,650 is a couple of things that make me skeptical about the 1731 01:47:10,650 --> 01:47:18,750 information that's in it, though. One, the the target, the 1732 01:47:18,750 --> 01:47:23,220 source of some of these claims is supposedly the Russian 1733 01:47:23,220 --> 01:47:27,630 presidential administration. That is a very hard intelligence 1734 01:47:27,630 --> 01:47:31,980 target. intelligence organizations around the world 1735 01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:35,430 devote themselves to trying to penetrate that target, very, 1736 01:47:35,430 --> 01:47:39,660 very hard to do. So we're led to believe that a private 1737 01:47:39,660 --> 01:47:44,670 individual running a security firm hired to dig up dirt is 1738 01:47:44,670 --> 01:47:47,880 able to penetrate that hard target using his own sources may 1739 01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:54,780 be so I'm skeptical. Second thing to note here, Moscow for 1740 01:47:54,780 --> 01:48:00,750 anybody that's been there is good at nothing. Beyond 1741 01:48:00,750 --> 01:48:04,590 generating lots and lots of rumors, and a lot of these 1742 01:48:04,590 --> 01:48:09,180 rumors are generated precisely because the people in these 1743 01:48:09,180 --> 01:48:13,320 closed circles of decision making are not very transparent 1744 01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:15,570 about what's going on. And in the absence of heart 1745 01:48:15,570 --> 01:48:18,450 information, people tend to gossip a lot about what's going 1746 01:48:18,450 --> 01:48:23,430 on, really easy to tap into that gossip network. Now, now, the 1747 01:48:23,430 --> 01:48:27,720 question is, gee, am I getting, you know, rumor? Or am I getting 1748 01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:31,920 solid information here? You know, we have no basis for 1749 01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:37,110 judging but I suspect the most likely explanation here is 1750 01:48:37,110 --> 01:48:41,280 somebody that tapped into the very active Moscow rumor mill 1751 01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,340 and circulated what what's out there on. 1752 01:48:47,550 --> 01:48:51,480 Hmm, there you have it. Well, Theresa May weighed in the other 1753 01:48:51,480 --> 01:48:56,340 day about the dossier and specifically about Chris steel, 1754 01:48:56,340 --> 01:49:00,060 the four was mi five, mi six mi six guy mi six mi six guys, you 1755 01:49:00,060 --> 01:49:03,480 know, it's a long standing position that we don't comment 1756 01:49:03,480 --> 01:49:06,000 on such matters, but I think what from everything that you 1757 01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,400 will have seen, it is absolutely clear that the individual who 1758 01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:11,400 produced this dossier has not worked for the UK government for 1759 01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:11,970 years. 1760 01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:16,770 Oh, okay. So back off back off. We got nothing to do with that. 1761 01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:24,270 I had a I found a another former CIA agent. This would be Kate 1762 01:49:24,270 --> 01:49:27,930 former Case Officer Robert David Steele. He was an RT I have to 1763 01:49:27,930 --> 01:49:31,740 say that because of course it's our tea. And you know, you play 1764 01:49:31,740 --> 01:49:33,600 clips from our tea. You know what you are? 1765 01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:40,920 His he the other guy's name is steel. Are they related? 1766 01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:45,810 Oh, I don't believe so. Interesting. But I've seen this 1767 01:49:45,810 --> 01:49:49,800 guy around before. But I think he does show up on RT a number 1768 01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:53,970 of times, but he had a different take on Trump's election 1769 01:49:53,970 --> 01:49:57,360 different take on the so called hacking. What really happened 1770 01:49:57,360 --> 01:49:58,770 and he summed it up neatly here. 1771 01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:03,540 So Trump has As a chance to reset everything he talked about 1772 01:50:03,540 --> 01:50:06,600 how the system is rigged. It's not just campaign finance 1773 01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:10,500 reform. It's paper ballots. One of the reasons Trump won by 1774 01:50:10,500 --> 01:50:14,130 accident was because Hillary Clinton started talking about 1775 01:50:14,130 --> 01:50:18,060 the Russians too soon. And it led to the closure of the 1776 01:50:18,060 --> 01:50:21,390 electronic vote tampering that she used against Bernie Sanders. 1777 01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:24,660 Hillary Clinton, it's on record. Stanford University has studied 1778 01:50:24,660 --> 01:50:28,110 this and documented it Hillary Clinton stole 13 primaries from 1779 01:50:28,110 --> 01:50:32,610 Bernie Sanders. Using electronic ballot tampering. The Russians 1780 01:50:32,610 --> 01:50:34,920 did not hack the election, Hillary Clinton hacked the 1781 01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:38,730 election and lost because that door was closed at the very end. 1782 01:50:39,510 --> 01:50:42,270 That sounds very reasonable to me. Wow, 1783 01:50:42,330 --> 01:50:49,950 that sounds Clip of the Day. Thank you. Now, this brings us 1784 01:50:49,950 --> 01:50:53,700 back I actually kind of buy into that a little bit a little bit. 1785 01:50:55,020 --> 01:50:58,410 Because of the of the New York ballots, especially the ones 1786 01:50:58,770 --> 01:51:02,820 where they're, all of a sudden, no, dole was Brooklyn. I think 1787 01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:06,090 the whole number of pre precincts got no votes coming in 1788 01:51:06,090 --> 01:51:09,690 at all, and then we're all gonna go to Bernie. And no, no, you 1789 01:51:09,690 --> 01:51:13,860 get nothing zip. Bernie made a little fuss. But he didn't make 1790 01:51:13,860 --> 01:51:17,880 a big fuss, you know, and some news guys picked it up and 1791 01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:19,980 talked about a little bit made a little fuss, but it didn't make 1792 01:51:19,980 --> 01:51:24,690 a big fuss and it would just went on. I think that's a very 1793 01:51:24,690 --> 01:51:31,740 funny and ironic conclusion that this. Yeah, highest of all sorts 1794 01:51:31,740 --> 01:51:32,310 of humor. 1795 01:51:32,370 --> 01:51:37,650 And even if, even if it wasn't meant to be funny, it fits 1796 01:51:37,650 --> 01:51:41,040 perfectly. Yeah, she blew it. She started yapping about the 1797 01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:43,230 Russians too early. Then they had to they couldn't do their 1798 01:51:43,230 --> 01:51:46,080 own voter fraud, which of course, is gotta be rampant. 1799 01:51:46,650 --> 01:51:48,990 It's gotta be we're America. It's what we do. 1800 01:51:49,019 --> 01:51:51,779 Well, especially with those electronic machines. Yeah, well, 1801 01:51:51,779 --> 01:51:51,959 we've 1802 01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:58,560 complained about that a lot. All right, here he is. Oh, yes. 1803 01:51:59,220 --> 01:52:01,560 Another interesting point he made. Check it out. 1804 01:52:01,590 --> 01:52:07,320 Trump is a wildcard. Trump is a businessman. Trump already 1805 01:52:07,350 --> 01:52:10,650 understands that, for example, we're paying too much for Boeing 1806 01:52:10,770 --> 01:52:14,310 and Lockheed and Northrop Grumman. He's coming at this 1807 01:52:14,310 --> 01:52:18,300 with a fresh perspective. He did not expect to win. He has 1808 01:52:18,300 --> 01:52:21,270 replaced the political elites with business and military 1809 01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:24,450 elites. We've had a counter coup in the United States, we have 1810 01:52:24,450 --> 01:52:28,500 successfully defeated the coup that was being led by Wall 1811 01:52:28,500 --> 01:52:32,280 Street and Hillary Clinton on China and John Brennan. So it's 1812 01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:37,230 up to Trump. My personal feeling is that if Trump does not pass 1813 01:52:37,230 --> 01:52:41,580 an Electoral Reform Act in the next 90 days, he will not finish 1814 01:52:41,580 --> 01:52:44,850 his term. He will leave the why is that what does the Electoral 1815 01:52:44,850 --> 01:52:46,230 Reform Act do? And 1816 01:52:46,230 --> 01:52:48,570 why is it so important to his his presidency? 1817 01:52:48,750 --> 01:52:51,450 The Electoral Reform Act does a number of things. But one of the 1818 01:52:51,450 --> 01:52:55,380 most important is that it frees the members from the bribery and 1819 01:52:55,380 --> 01:53:00,270 the blackmail. That is pervasive in US politics. Wayne Madsen is 1820 01:53:00,270 --> 01:53:02,850 one of my favorite investigative journalists. And he published 1821 01:53:02,850 --> 01:53:07,440 recently a piece on how John McCain and Lindsey Graham had 1822 01:53:07,440 --> 01:53:11,670 been blackmailed by CIA. And that is why they've been so anti 1823 01:53:11,670 --> 01:53:15,270 Russia. Now, because of Wayne's piece. And because of some other 1824 01:53:15,270 --> 01:53:17,880 things that I and a few others have done. Trump has gone back 1825 01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:21,270 to McCain, McCain is now being if you will counter black males. 1826 01:53:21,660 --> 01:53:24,690 And so he's softening and he's saying, well, now I'm leaning 1827 01:53:24,690 --> 01:53:27,960 toward Rex Tillerson, which is exactly what he better do if he 1828 01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:31,980 wants to finish his term out. I think Trump has the capacity to 1829 01:53:31,980 --> 01:53:35,520 free the members from their dependency on foreign money, 1830 01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:38,580 particularly Saudi Arabian and Israeli and Wall Street money. 1831 01:53:38,850 --> 01:53:44,040 Beyond that, he has to show the Sandinistas center needs the 1832 01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:47,670 Libertarians and the independence that they have a 1833 01:53:47,670 --> 01:53:49,320 president who really means it. 1834 01:53:49,889 --> 01:53:51,659 I like the term Sandinistas. I 1835 01:53:51,660 --> 01:53:52,860 hadn't heard that word is. 1836 01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:59,160 It's so I looked at the voter Reform Act of 2016. I could not 1837 01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:05,250 parse from it what he is saying about well, I don't know if it's 1838 01:54:05,250 --> 01:54:08,460 in this next clip, but the general idea is that it was 1839 01:54:08,460 --> 01:54:12,750 really only 47% percent of the eligible voting public who voted 1840 01:54:12,750 --> 01:54:19,320 at all. And of that, you know, I guess 24% went to Hillary, you 1841 01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:23,430 know, it was it was all very small margins. And somehow with 1842 01:54:23,430 --> 01:54:26,880 this act, and again, I read it and I, I just couldn't parse it 1843 01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:31,140 to his words, how that would then free everyone will 1844 01:54:31,140 --> 01:54:34,650 basically break up the two party system, quote, unquote, two 1845 01:54:34,650 --> 01:54:37,740 party system. I'm not sure how that would work. Someone out 1846 01:54:37,740 --> 01:54:39,510 there far smarter than us can maybe help us. 1847 01:54:40,110 --> 01:54:42,270 I don't see how I can do it. 1848 01:54:42,300 --> 01:54:45,570 I didn't see it. But I did like what he said that because that 1849 01:54:45,630 --> 01:54:49,320 is a call back to John Kerry, that if he doesn't get that 1850 01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,500 done, he'll be gone before his term is up. I don't know. But 1851 01:54:52,500 --> 01:54:54,090 there's something brewing in that area. 1852 01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:58,680 Well, that's also played Are you reading the same topic? Gay in 1853 01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:00,450 on the threats to Trump You're getting a 1854 01:55:02,190 --> 01:55:05,940 hold on one guy is coming. We gotta we gotta we gotta we gotta 1855 01:55:05,940 --> 01:55:13,500 roll ahead that guy. Right everybody we love her here on 1856 01:55:13,500 --> 01:55:16,200 the show. Let's hear what she has to say. I have thought 1857 01:55:16,530 --> 01:55:21,450 an awful lot about blowing up the White House, but I know 1858 01:55:22,860 --> 01:55:24,600 that this won't change anything 1859 01:55:25,170 --> 01:55:29,370 right or smashed windows and set things on fire. But with some 1860 01:55:29,370 --> 01:55:33,240 the anger took a more morbid turn. Death wishes for Trump 1861 01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:37,410 started pouring in. Social media director of a new side publicly 1862 01:55:37,410 --> 01:55:41,130 expressed his hope for the President to die soon as school 1863 01:55:41,130 --> 01:55:43,980 teacher was filmed in her classroom mockingly shooting 1864 01:55:43,980 --> 01:55:47,130 President Donald Trump as a live feed was projected of his 1865 01:55:47,130 --> 01:55:50,340 inauguration ceremony. The Secret Service is probing a 1866 01:55:50,340 --> 01:55:53,250 woman in Kentucky who tweeted a call for someone to assassinate 1867 01:55:53,250 --> 01:55:56,520 the president, some may consider a Deathwish to the president the 1868 01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:58,620 form of protest, others don't. 1869 01:55:59,130 --> 01:56:02,400 It's being owned by people boldface names in the in the 1870 01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:05,880 news and celebrities who normally would not ever say 1871 01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:11,190 something like this. So it's, I think, clearly a reflection on 1872 01:56:11,190 --> 01:56:15,090 the highly polarized state of the United States at this point. 1873 01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:16,020 Regardless of 1874 01:56:16,020 --> 01:56:19,320 one's position on Trump's policies. There's something very 1875 01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:22,410 wrong about people publicizing their desire for the President 1876 01:56:22,410 --> 01:56:25,860 to die, especially considering the US has a history of leaders 1877 01:56:25,860 --> 01:56:28,830 assassinations. In Washington, I'm going to shut down. 1878 01:56:30,180 --> 01:56:33,600 My memory is not the best in the world. But I do recall after 1879 01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:38,940 President Obama was inaugurated police were saying that they 1880 01:56:38,940 --> 01:56:41,580 would rough you up if you said anything negative about the 1881 01:56:41,580 --> 01:56:44,700 president. They were planning 1882 01:56:44,700 --> 01:56:49,470 Reagan got elected he was shot within probably the first six 1883 01:56:49,470 --> 01:56:49,740 months. 1884 01:56:50,850 --> 01:56:54,960 You know, those Dutch douchebags on the face bag? The ones who 1885 01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:59,250 are here on Oh, one visas and tourist visas and you know, they 1886 01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:02,370 have their little club and of course, by osmosis I get sucked 1887 01:57:02,370 --> 01:57:04,830 into their face back feet. And I don't say anything about it, 1888 01:57:04,830 --> 01:57:07,830 because I want to read it during the inauguration, you know what 1889 01:57:07,830 --> 01:57:13,590 they were posting? Hey, where's that sniper? God, and they're 1890 01:57:13,590 --> 01:57:17,790 here as visitors, you know, the on visa decks. 1891 01:57:19,500 --> 01:57:22,590 You're gonna be bumped now you're done. I'm done. With that 1892 01:57:22,590 --> 01:57:24,900 today. Listen to the show. And please. 1893 01:57:26,790 --> 01:57:31,020 final clip from this former CIA Case Officer Robert David 1894 01:57:31,020 --> 01:57:36,120 Steele. He's going to deconstruct the three hacks that 1895 01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:38,850 are really in play here in this entire scenario. 1896 01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:42,450 DNC was never properly investigated. They wouldn't 1897 01:57:42,450 --> 01:57:47,010 allow the FBI to get to their computers. And in fact, the FBI 1898 01:57:47,010 --> 01:57:49,980 was simply given secondhand information from CrowdStrike and 1899 01:57:49,980 --> 01:57:54,000 others who are anti Russian technocrats techniques that are 1900 01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:55,860 in the pockets of Hillary Clinton and the 1901 01:57:55,860 --> 01:58:00,090 neoconservatives. So it was never proven. And in fact, 1902 01:58:00,090 --> 01:58:02,670 Donald Trump to his credit called Julian Assange and said, 1903 01:58:02,670 --> 01:58:05,640 Tell me to my face tell me directly, and Julian Assange 1904 01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:09,000 repeated to Donald Trump. The Russians did not give us this 1905 01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:13,380 stuff. Now. Podesta, the FBI and the CIA are asking us to believe 1906 01:58:13,380 --> 01:58:17,460 that a Romanian taxi driver using antiquated equipment who 1907 01:58:17,460 --> 01:58:20,190 has had some modest success against celebrities, perhaps 1908 01:58:20,190 --> 01:58:24,300 he's after you next is being run by Russian national 1909 01:58:24,300 --> 01:58:27,420 intelligence. That's absolutely absurd. In fact, the man was in 1910 01:58:27,420 --> 01:58:32,790 jail here in in Virginia, and he was found to be completely what 1911 01:58:32,790 --> 01:58:35,610 he said he was and he was returned to Romania to serve his 1912 01:58:35,610 --> 01:58:39,360 prison sentence there. He is not a Russian state agents. This is 1913 01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:42,600 Lucifer. Yes, go suffer. And by the way, people get confused 1914 01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:44,820 Lucifer, 2.0 and Lucifer the same person. 1915 01:58:44,849 --> 01:58:46,559 No, I didn't think that was true. 1916 01:58:47,910 --> 01:58:50,490 I always thought it was true. But you always said it wasn't 1917 01:58:50,519 --> 01:58:52,619 I thought it wasn't but he's saying are you actually said 1918 01:58:52,619 --> 01:58:54,989 there's some confusion about it. So he says it is the same person 1919 01:58:54,989 --> 01:58:55,079 who 1920 01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:58,050 suffer and by the way, people get confused. Gusa for 2.0 and 1921 01:58:58,050 --> 01:59:00,900 Gousto. For the same person. Okay, if you if you look that 1922 01:59:00,900 --> 01:59:06,600 up, it's not completely clear. Okay, so the third big leak was 1923 01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:12,930 the Anthony Weiner laptop that had allegedly 650,000 emails 1924 01:59:13,230 --> 01:59:16,530 from home Aventine. She was introduced to Hillary Clinton as 1925 01:59:16,530 --> 01:59:21,300 a very, very young girl. Hillary Clinton fell in love with her 1926 01:59:21,510 --> 01:59:25,650 and has been with Hillary Clinton ever since. Those emails 1927 01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:29,310 although the FBI sequestered that computer very quickly, they 1928 01:59:29,310 --> 01:59:32,430 were enough to make the New York Police Department very angry, 1929 01:59:32,910 --> 01:59:36,360 because they had explicit proof of Hillary Clinton sending 1930 01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:39,720 classified information back to IP addresses in Saudi Arabia and 1931 01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:44,400 Qatar. They had explicit proof of Hillary Clinton with pay to 1932 01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:48,450 play I mean, Hillary Clinton sold Syria and Yemen to Saudi 1933 01:59:48,450 --> 01:59:52,710 Arabia. And John Brennan has been her executive agent for 1934 01:59:52,710 --> 01:59:56,550 essentially doing regime change in Syria and further 1935 01:59:56,550 --> 02:00:00,000 destabilizing Yemen. I mean, really, Brandon should be in an 1936 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,850 International Court under indictment for being a war 1937 02:00:02,850 --> 02:00:03,300 criminal. 1938 02:00:03,900 --> 02:00:07,110 Yeah, we kind of forget about the the Wiener stuff that's kind 1939 02:00:07,110 --> 02:00:09,090 of drifted off the radar, didn't it? Yeah, it's 1940 02:00:09,090 --> 02:00:12,510 because it was sequestered as he says, yeah. You know, they like 1941 02:00:12,510 --> 02:00:15,240 to keep this stuff in abeyance. You know if we need it. We use 1942 02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:16,650 it when we need it. You know, 1943 02:00:17,010 --> 02:00:19,530 how people always talk a little bit differently when they're on 1944 02:00:19,530 --> 02:00:23,040 a podcast. Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone, we played a 1945 02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:25,140 couple clips. And he was what was that was Canadian 1946 02:00:25,140 --> 02:00:27,660 television. I think Canadia CBC, 1947 02:00:27,870 --> 02:00:29,880 and you know, when you're overseas, you could also say 1948 02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:30,600 what you want to know. 1949 02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:34,230 Yeah, but it but it wasn't quite as it's just a different it's 1950 02:00:34,230 --> 02:00:37,410 almost a different tune what he's saying now, he was kind of 1951 02:00:37,410 --> 02:00:40,860 cagey like, well, you know, we don't exactly have all the 1952 02:00:40,860 --> 02:00:46,500 information but and, actually, this wasn't a podcast worse than 1953 02:00:46,500 --> 02:00:52,350 a podcast. He shows up on Sirius XM worse than a podcast is worse 1954 02:00:52,350 --> 02:00:53,790 than a podcast Sirius 1955 02:00:53,790 --> 02:00:55,860 XM worse than a podcast. That's 1956 02:00:55,860 --> 02:00:57,150 your bumper sticker. Right there. 1957 02:00:57,180 --> 02:00:59,220 I've been very skeptical about this publicly. 1958 02:01:00,540 --> 02:01:04,230 No, not that skeptical. Mr. aiibi said from 1959 02:01:04,230 --> 02:01:07,170 the beginning that I don't believe that I don't think we 1960 02:01:07,170 --> 02:01:10,020 should just openly believe the assessments of people in the 1961 02:01:10,020 --> 02:01:15,900 intelligence community and and when willing to believe the the 1962 02:01:15,900 --> 02:01:20,970 idea that they they were behind the hack of the DNC, you know, 1963 02:01:20,970 --> 02:01:23,520 there's there's some evidence for that. I've talked to people 1964 02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:27,210 who are cyber experts, but even they really are only making a 1965 02:01:27,210 --> 02:01:30,330 circumstantial case about the probable origin of where that's 1966 02:01:30,330 --> 02:01:33,300 coming from. Trump himself has said that he believed that that 1967 02:01:33,300 --> 02:01:37,380 was Russia. But the rest of it, you know, this idea that there 1968 02:01:37,380 --> 02:01:40,830 was a Manchurian Candidate story and that they had a collusive 1969 02:01:40,830 --> 02:01:45,210 agreement. Like, you know, I think that's that stuff was off 1970 02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:49,230 for me totally out to lunch. And, you know, that dossier that 1971 02:01:49,260 --> 02:01:53,940 that came out, having lived in Russia, like since when is the 1972 02:01:53,940 --> 02:01:56,400 Kremlin like a high school cafeteria, where you can 1973 02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:58,620 overhear what everybody's saying, I mean, they were in a 1974 02:01:58,620 --> 02:02:00,900 much tighter ship than that if they if they actually had 1975 02:02:00,900 --> 02:02:04,770 something like that, they would keep it a lot, a lot closer to 1976 02:02:04,770 --> 02:02:05,250 their best 1977 02:02:05,550 --> 02:02:08,550 wish you would write like that, that would be so honest of him. 1978 02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:13,890 One short stick with these a liberal is of the right, but he 1979 02:02:13,890 --> 02:02:17,550 was a little a little, you know, you can't do anything that even 1980 02:02:17,580 --> 02:02:20,580 remotely says anything positive, that would mean that could be 1981 02:02:20,580 --> 02:02:24,840 interpreted by the other side of the divide of the polarized 1982 02:02:25,530 --> 02:02:30,450 globalist versus nationalist agendas. II can't do it, he 1983 02:02:30,450 --> 02:02:31,770 loses audience. Well, he's 1984 02:02:31,770 --> 02:02:32,610 trying they talk to 1985 02:02:32,610 --> 02:02:35,100 the actual people investigated the hacks, you know, I don't 1986 02:02:35,100 --> 02:02:38,460 know, but I mean, they add up the signatures, they do things 1987 02:02:38,490 --> 02:02:43,410 they do seem to be not unlike actual physical evidence, and 1988 02:02:43,410 --> 02:02:45,870 that they have a DNA they have, they have an imprint, and they 1989 02:02:45,870 --> 02:02:50,010 know that where their, their, their internet protocols are, 1990 02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:53,370 and then they see the signatures that are similar. And certainly 1991 02:02:53,430 --> 02:02:57,600 sure, but it's a little bit like the standard approved 1992 02:02:57,870 --> 02:03:00,780 protocols not the same as Internet Protocol address. 1993 02:03:00,780 --> 02:03:01,080 That's 1994 02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:03,300 why I wanted you to hear this clip. I thought that was so 1995 02:03:03,300 --> 02:03:05,640 funny. I love the eyelids. Sure, 1996 02:03:05,700 --> 02:03:09,630 but it's a little bit late. It was back for love. It is great. 1997 02:03:09,900 --> 02:03:12,690 All right, and then they see the signatures that are similar and 1998 02:03:12,690 --> 02:03:13,500 certainly 1999 02:03:13,530 --> 02:03:17,850 sure, but it's a little bit like like that the standard of proof 2000 02:03:17,910 --> 02:03:19,980 for for that did I miss it? I must have 2001 02:03:19,980 --> 02:03:21,630 missed it. Yeah, it's back further 2002 02:03:22,950 --> 02:03:27,720 add up the signatures they do seems they do seem to be not 2003 02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:31,170 unlike actual physical evidence and that they have a DNA they 2004 02:03:31,170 --> 02:03:33,780 have a they have an imprint and they know that people were 2005 02:03:33,780 --> 02:03:37,290 there, their their internet protocols are and then they see 2006 02:03:37,290 --> 02:03:37,770 the city 2007 02:03:37,860 --> 02:03:42,300 where their internet protocols are. Have you have you hugged 2008 02:03:42,300 --> 02:03:43,650 your Internet Protocol today? 2009 02:03:44,519 --> 02:03:47,429 He doesn't know what he's talking about with a signature. 2010 02:03:47,429 --> 02:03:47,519 And 2011 02:03:47,730 --> 02:03:50,910 I'd love that ensures that are similar. And certainly 2012 02:03:50,970 --> 02:03:54,780 sure, but it's a little bit like, like that the standard of 2013 02:03:54,780 --> 02:03:59,610 proof for that is that you have a series of indications that 2014 02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:02,880 lead to a conclusion. And you have you still have to make a 2015 02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:05,460 qualitative assessment at the end of all those things, then 2016 02:04:05,700 --> 02:04:11,580 it's it's it's just not as strong as a whistleblower saying 2017 02:04:11,730 --> 02:04:14,970 I was in on it. I did this, you know what I'm saying? Like, 2018 02:04:14,970 --> 02:04:17,160 like, there are different levels of proof. 2019 02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:19,950 No, okay. There's I guess, just like there's different levels of 2020 02:04:19,950 --> 02:04:20,730 facts. 2021 02:04:23,130 --> 02:04:25,710 Yeah, yeah, that's exactly it. 2022 02:04:29,220 --> 02:04:32,850 The the I know, you saw this, the loyalty test meme is 2023 02:04:32,850 --> 02:04:34,110 spreading as predicted. 2024 02:04:35,550 --> 02:04:38,040 The is you talked about this on the last show? 2025 02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:41,550 Yes. And you said that you didn't see that happening? No, I 2026 02:04:41,550 --> 02:04:43,860 still haven't seen it happening. Okay, here's the BBC. 2027 02:04:43,890 --> 02:04:47,940 I think it's actually more sinister than just just a lie to 2028 02:04:47,940 --> 02:04:50,490 the public. And I think what's happening is that it's 2029 02:04:50,490 --> 02:04:54,540 interesting that Trump sent Sean out to say that I think some 2030 02:04:54,570 --> 02:04:58,170 sometimes children do this. He's testing their loyalty, because 2031 02:04:58,590 --> 02:05:01,470 the crowd was obviously my smaller than it then it wants 2032 02:05:01,500 --> 02:05:06,780 that. So by sending Shawn out he's testing his loyalty. He is 2033 02:05:06,780 --> 02:05:09,870 and that's how you hold the power. Then if you make somebody 2034 02:05:09,870 --> 02:05:11,670 lie, then you hold power over them. 2035 02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:17,610 What? That's the meme. like children. She did add that 2036 02:05:17,610 --> 02:05:21,030 that's a new bid. I like it. I like it. You're me. So if you if 2037 02:05:21,030 --> 02:05:23,910 you force people to go out and live for you, you have control 2038 02:05:23,910 --> 02:05:24,480 over them. 2039 02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:31,830 Yeah, that's all it takes. I think has anyone ever heard this 2040 02:05:31,830 --> 02:05:36,330 Shawn guy? That guy's a maniac. He is he's pretty. He's pretty 2041 02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:41,760 high energy. I like it, though. Makes I get the kit. I get the 2042 02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:44,430 biggest kick out of the Nikki Haley situation. 2043 02:05:44,460 --> 02:05:47,340 Yeah, no. So she's going she is going to be the ambassador to 2044 02:05:47,340 --> 02:05:48,420 the United Nations. 2045 02:05:48,630 --> 02:05:51,360 Yes. And she I don't think she was a Trump supporter at first, 2046 02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:54,960 but she sounds sure sounds like the right mentality for it. But 2047 02:05:54,960 --> 02:05:57,030 no, none of that mainstream media because everybody likes 2048 02:05:57,030 --> 02:06:00,060 her. And she's also a woman. She can't say anything too bad. Oh, 2049 02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:04,800 by me, you can but you can't overdo it. Because she's a 2050 02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:08,670 woman. Yes. And so she comes out with this crazy comment. I 2051 02:06:08,670 --> 02:06:11,250 thought it was hilarious. You go, 2052 02:06:11,670 --> 02:06:15,420 the President's ambassador to the UN put every nation on 2053 02:06:15,420 --> 02:06:19,950 notice today, Nikki Haley said the US wants value for its un 2054 02:06:19,950 --> 02:06:25,050 commitments. And she chose these words as her first greeting in 2055 02:06:25,050 --> 02:06:27,150 her new post. And the 2056 02:06:27,150 --> 02:06:30,120 way that will show value is to show our strength, show our 2057 02:06:30,120 --> 02:06:35,040 voice, have the backs of our allies, and make sure that our 2058 02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:38,190 allies have our back as well. For those that don't have our 2059 02:06:38,190 --> 02:06:42,060 back. We're taking names, we will make points to respond to 2060 02:06:42,060 --> 02:06:42,930 that accordingly. 2061 02:06:43,170 --> 02:06:44,430 Ambassador Nikki Haley, 2062 02:06:45,210 --> 02:06:48,630 whoa. She's taking names and kicking ass is what's going 2063 02:06:48,630 --> 02:06:49,170 down. 2064 02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:52,110 Yeah, I thought that was fantastic. So apparently, 2065 02:06:52,710 --> 02:06:56,820 the idea what I understand is, the US will cut back its funding 2066 02:06:56,820 --> 02:07:00,240 of the United Nations. But I've heard 40% Well, here's the 2067 02:07:00,240 --> 02:07:05,040 defunding clip. Oh, hold on a second. Funding? Yes. I've been 2068 02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:06,810 wanting to hear this address. 2069 02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:10,560 The UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon pretty much said that Saudi 2070 02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:14,460 Arabia had pressured him to to remove them from a healer. 2071 02:07:16,110 --> 02:07:21,480 I'm sorry, it says defunding the UN. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. There's 2072 02:07:21,510 --> 02:07:23,100 to your right. My mistake. 2073 02:07:23,130 --> 02:07:25,860 Donald Trump's administration is reportedly drawing up an 2074 02:07:25,860 --> 02:07:29,490 executive order to significantly reduce America's funding for the 2075 02:07:29,490 --> 02:07:32,970 United Nations and also other international organizations. The 2076 02:07:32,970 --> 02:07:36,540 White House is said to be seeking an overall 40% cut in 2077 02:07:36,540 --> 02:07:40,110 funding. Trump's previously been extremely critical of the UN. 2078 02:07:41,220 --> 02:07:45,060 The UN has such tremendous potential, not living up to its 2079 02:07:45,060 --> 02:07:48,120 potential there is such tremendous potential, but it is 2080 02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:51,570 not living up when you see the United Nation solving problems. 2081 02:07:51,570 --> 02:07:55,410 They don't they cause problems. So if it lives up to the 2082 02:07:55,410 --> 02:07:58,080 potential, it's a great thing. And if it doesn't, it's a waste 2083 02:07:58,080 --> 02:07:58,200 of 2084 02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:02,610 time and money. Now, Trump, this is an example of Trump and his 2085 02:08:02,610 --> 02:08:07,230 tripling of saying Say something United Nations has tremendous 2086 02:08:07,230 --> 02:08:11,190 potential, the United Nations has tremendous potential. Yes, 2087 02:08:11,190 --> 02:08:15,450 tremendous third time, and it's like he does this on Sunday 2088 02:08:15,450 --> 02:08:17,670 trying to make a point or brainwash us. I'm not upset 2089 02:08:17,670 --> 02:08:20,700 whenever you say something three times. That's when people 2090 02:08:20,700 --> 02:08:26,790 remember it, such as Optima tax relief. They do that that's an 2091 02:08:26,790 --> 02:08:28,860 example all the time they want to need 2092 02:08:28,860 --> 02:08:32,790 100 Cars for Kids, or escorts for canines. 2093 02:08:32,849 --> 02:08:37,499 The commercial goes like this, did you know that you can pay 2094 02:08:37,499 --> 02:08:40,289 off your credit card, don't pay the full amount optic Optima tax 2095 02:08:40,289 --> 02:08:42,959 relief. That's right Optima tax relief, you can get that at 2096 02:08:42,989 --> 02:08:46,439 Optima tax relief, boom, Optima tax relief, and they do a jingle 2097 02:08:46,439 --> 02:08:50,309 which is genius right after that. That's why it works. 2098 02:08:51,750 --> 02:08:53,670 Well, he does just some elearning into some 2099 02:08:54,180 --> 02:08:57,360 jingle after that. He should do a jingle. She has a little 2100 02:08:57,360 --> 02:08:57,750 jingle 2101 02:08:57,750 --> 02:09:03,390 machine. There's a little pocket you can play. But I think this 2102 02:09:03,390 --> 02:09:05,850 is a and I think he makes a good point. They cause more trouble 2103 02:09:05,850 --> 02:09:10,200 than they, you know, that like the douchebag thing that 2104 02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:13,080 happened in Haiti? Well, there's also it wouldn't take credit for 2105 02:09:13,110 --> 02:09:15,810 there's also some thinking now that this is a concerted effort 2106 02:09:15,810 --> 02:09:21,060 to bankrupt Germany, who currently are at about 1% of 2107 02:09:21,060 --> 02:09:24,840 their GDP and to move it up to 2% GDP, which is the requirement 2108 02:09:24,840 --> 02:09:29,880 for the United for NATO United Nations. That could be a serious 2109 02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:34,410 financial issue. But that's just that's just another way of 2110 02:09:34,410 --> 02:09:38,340 looking at it. Yeah, it's interesting. I want to say 2111 02:09:38,340 --> 02:09:41,820 something about the First Amendment Defense Act, which is 2112 02:09:41,820 --> 02:09:45,330 now in play again. And I bring this up. Well, of course, I've 2113 02:09:45,330 --> 02:09:47,460 been looking at all the legislation stuff that's 2114 02:09:47,460 --> 02:09:53,130 floating around that have people freaking out. And the LGBT ally 2115 02:09:53,130 --> 02:09:59,370 should say really, the LGBTQ IAP community is freaking out about 2116 02:09:59,370 --> 02:10:02,310 the first event In the Defense Act and headlines, such as 2117 02:10:02,310 --> 02:10:08,130 sweeping bill will institutionalize discrimination 2118 02:10:08,130 --> 02:10:14,400 against LGBT. And I wanted to discuss briefly and I think I'm 2119 02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:18,510 gonna need your help, what discrimination laws there are 2120 02:10:18,510 --> 02:10:22,530 currently in United States and how it fits in with this or not. 2121 02:10:24,390 --> 02:10:27,180 And the first was really a question I have for you the 2122 02:10:27,690 --> 02:10:30,780 Civil Rights Act. I think I remember you telling me that 2123 02:10:30,780 --> 02:10:34,410 that was never signed or ratified. No, the equal rights 2124 02:10:34,410 --> 02:10:39,060 and equal rights rights amendment. Okay. What is 2125 02:10:39,060 --> 02:10:41,880 different from the Equal Rights Amendment versus the Civil 2126 02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:43,710 Rights Act is that what is the 2127 02:10:43,830 --> 02:10:47,550 boom do Civil Rights Act was about blacks and the equal 2128 02:10:47,550 --> 02:10:49,980 rights of man is about women. Okay. 2129 02:10:52,590 --> 02:10:57,060 What is okay, let's go to the civil Civil Rights Act and which 2130 02:10:57,060 --> 02:11:03,120 was signed? That's good. What exactly did that outlaw? Or 2131 02:11:03,120 --> 02:11:06,630 forbid, because I, what I found is different than I thought it 2132 02:11:06,630 --> 02:11:09,690 was. And I'll just tell you think segregation 2133 02:11:09,690 --> 02:11:14,340 was one of the issues the that it was targeted. I think 2134 02:11:14,340 --> 02:11:16,710 segregation was targeted specifically. And I think it was 2135 02:11:16,710 --> 02:11:18,270 about the schools, mostly, 2136 02:11:18,630 --> 02:11:21,750 the school is actually there was no legislation for schools. As 2137 02:11:21,750 --> 02:11:26,100 I've read the ad, the bill, there was a recommendation and 2138 02:11:26,100 --> 02:11:30,990 requirement requests, but there was no legal basis to 2139 02:11:31,470 --> 02:11:34,200 desegregate schools, although, of course, that did happen, 2140 02:11:34,200 --> 02:11:38,910 luckily. But it was mainly about businesses involved in 2141 02:11:38,910 --> 02:11:43,320 interstate commerce. And I'm not quite sure how that's a part of 2142 02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:48,120 it. But that means hotels, restaurants, public places where 2143 02:11:48,120 --> 02:11:52,020 people go, and I liken this a lot to the schools would be 2144 02:11:52,020 --> 02:11:54,420 included public schools could be included, yes, not private or 2145 02:11:54,420 --> 02:11:59,190 public. That also, it's very, very analogous to the American 2146 02:11:59,190 --> 02:12:04,980 with Disabilities Act, where now you know that a hospital or a 2147 02:12:04,980 --> 02:12:09,840 restaurant has to adhere to the ADEA because they serve 2148 02:12:09,870 --> 02:12:15,270 everybody. And you may not discriminate anyone from staying 2149 02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:19,320 in a hotel, or eating at a restaurant or I think movie 2150 02:12:19,320 --> 02:12:23,340 theaters, you know, places where the public goes, this does not 2151 02:12:23,970 --> 02:12:27,240 adhere towards private businesses that are not part of 2152 02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:31,740 interstate commerce. So let's just take an example. An ice 2153 02:12:31,740 --> 02:12:35,100 cream parlor, let's take a better example. A wedding cake 2154 02:12:35,100 --> 02:12:39,840 shop, absolutely has the right is not a vile, it's not nice, 2155 02:12:39,870 --> 02:12:44,010 but it's not a violation of the Civil Rights Act to say, No, I 2156 02:12:44,010 --> 02:12:47,040 don't want to serve you. You can also say no shoes, no shirt, no 2157 02:12:47,040 --> 02:12:50,010 service, we reserve the right to not serve anybody. This is 2158 02:12:50,010 --> 02:12:53,130 almost an every every establishment, they have this 2159 02:12:53,130 --> 02:12:58,890 sign. And the First Amendment Defense Act somehow has been 2160 02:12:58,890 --> 02:13:03,300 misconstrued into this. Now you can discriminate against gays. 2161 02:13:04,350 --> 02:13:08,220 Whereas you are absolutely allowed to refuse service to 2162 02:13:08,220 --> 02:13:12,450 anybody if you do not fall under the guise of interstate commerce 2163 02:13:12,450 --> 02:13:16,680 public place where where public people come to do in public 2164 02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:20,850 people come to do things. First Amendment Defense Act, does what 2165 02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:21,570 it really doesn't like 2166 02:13:21,570 --> 02:13:23,490 people also known as the public the 2167 02:13:23,490 --> 02:13:27,420 public. Yes, I'll just read this briefly. That First Amendment 2168 02:13:27,420 --> 02:13:29,910 Defense Act prohibits the federal government from taking 2169 02:13:29,910 --> 02:13:33,120 discriminatory action against a person on the basis that such 2170 02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:36,600 person believes or acts in accordance with a religious 2171 02:13:36,600 --> 02:13:41,670 belief or moral conviction that one marriage is or should be 2172 02:13:41,670 --> 02:13:46,410 recognized as the union of one man and one woman or two sexual 2173 02:13:46,410 --> 02:13:50,610 relations are properly reserved to such a marriage. And it 2174 02:13:50,610 --> 02:13:53,610 defines discriminatory action as any federal government action to 2175 02:13:53,610 --> 02:13:55,590 discriminate against a person with such beliefs or 2176 02:13:55,590 --> 02:13:58,830 convictions, such as altering the federal tax treatment, 2177 02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:02,460 disallowing a deduction of any charitable contribution, 2178 02:14:02,790 --> 02:14:05,550 withhold, reduce, exclude, terminate, otherwise deny any 2179 02:14:05,550 --> 02:14:09,210 federal grant, withhold reduced exclude terminate otherwise deny 2180 02:14:09,210 --> 02:14:11,940 any benefit under federal benefit program. So what is 2181 02:14:11,940 --> 02:14:16,710 being said here is, if you if it doesn't fit under this has to be 2182 02:14:16,740 --> 02:14:19,560 if it does not fit under the Civil Rights Act, you have the 2183 02:14:19,560 --> 02:14:22,920 right to do that, and the government may not penalize you 2184 02:14:22,920 --> 02:14:27,240 for it. Now people may not like this, that they can be 2185 02:14:27,240 --> 02:14:29,790 discriminated against but anybody can be black people, 2186 02:14:29,790 --> 02:14:33,180 brown people, yellow people, old white people, and it's coming 2187 02:14:33,540 --> 02:14:36,360 will be asked to leave establishments because we're not 2188 02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:39,150 going to serve you and that is okay. And you have that right to 2189 02:14:39,150 --> 02:14:43,260 do that. There is no such thing in the United States where you 2190 02:14:43,260 --> 02:14:47,880 cannot discriminate in a private business. And people are 2191 02:14:47,880 --> 02:14:53,130 freaking out about it and being told something untrue. That no 2192 02:14:53,160 --> 02:14:55,290 you can just discriminate against gays we know it No, you 2193 02:14:55,290 --> 02:14:58,260 can not be kicked out of a restaurant you can not be kicked 2194 02:14:58,260 --> 02:15:02,100 out of a hotel, anything It is where the public goes. You can 2195 02:15:02,130 --> 02:15:05,760 already under existing law. But now the only thing that's been 2196 02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:08,550 stipulated here, which is really a jerk off thing, as far as I'm 2197 02:15:08,550 --> 02:15:12,690 concerned, Oh, okay. You know, so then the IRS can't penalize 2198 02:15:12,690 --> 02:15:12,990 you. 2199 02:15:13,980 --> 02:15:18,720 Well, I think this came about from the IRS debacle. Of course 2200 02:15:18,720 --> 02:15:21,420 it did, of course. And that's all it really is. 2201 02:15:21,450 --> 02:15:26,490 It's separate. It's Yes. But it's being you, you'll see it's 2202 02:15:26,490 --> 02:15:31,770 being shouted around as gays are going to die in America. 2203 02:15:35,280 --> 02:15:37,920 Well, that's kind of, to me, it's an eye roller. 2204 02:15:39,810 --> 02:15:43,980 I'm out. I'm in the trenches, John. I'm seeing it. 2205 02:15:46,290 --> 02:15:52,770 Or let's go to the women's march that took place the women's life 2206 02:15:52,770 --> 02:15:53,430 March. 2207 02:15:53,820 --> 02:15:56,070 And this was the this was the pro life, 2208 02:15:56,490 --> 02:16:02,190 the pro life when it took place. This is the play the intro clip. 2209 02:16:02,190 --> 02:16:05,040 This is women's life March, because there's a little piece 2210 02:16:05,040 --> 02:16:08,640 of information here that I didn't realize this and I'm 2211 02:16:08,640 --> 02:16:12,750 sorry, did you read that you did the right thing. I never knew 2212 02:16:12,750 --> 02:16:13,200 this. 2213 02:16:14,070 --> 02:16:17,550 This was the 44th march for life. But it helped special 2214 02:16:17,550 --> 02:16:21,420 significance for 10s of 1000s of anti abortion activists with the 2215 02:16:21,420 --> 02:16:26,310 coming of a Republican president in Congress. For the this year, 2216 02:16:26,310 --> 02:16:30,270 it's even more different. We're making history, many arrived in 2217 02:16:30,270 --> 02:16:33,810 groups from churches and schools. After long bus rides. 2218 02:16:34,710 --> 02:16:37,920 President Trump began their day with a tweet saying to all of 2219 02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:43,380 you marching, you have my full support. And at a rally before 2220 02:16:43,380 --> 02:16:46,590 the March, a sitting Vice President addressed the annual 2221 02:16:46,590 --> 02:16:49,890 gathering for the first time because of all of you 2222 02:16:51,420 --> 02:16:55,350 guys got her voice of a politician. Now they were they 2223 02:16:55,350 --> 02:16:57,600 had a bunch of women bitching about the fact that they weren't 2224 02:16:57,600 --> 02:17:00,960 even allowed to show up at the Women's March because they were 2225 02:17:00,960 --> 02:17:05,280 pro life. pro life women aren't women. And so that was an 2226 02:17:05,280 --> 02:17:07,860 interesting complaint. But the only reason this got any 2227 02:17:07,860 --> 02:17:11,880 coverage at all is because of the Trump meeting with David 2228 02:17:11,880 --> 02:17:15,930 Muir, which was this interview that was done on ABC first and 2229 02:17:15,930 --> 02:17:18,150 here's what's interesting about that, and then Trump bitched 2230 02:17:18,150 --> 02:17:20,040 about this, and that's why I was caught off guard with this. It 2231 02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:24,060 is the 44th Yeah, of these marches. I'm 44. I'd never heard 2232 02:17:24,060 --> 02:17:26,910 of it. But now they put it up because Trump actually made a 2233 02:17:26,910 --> 02:17:30,150 fuss with David Muir because they never cover it. They don't 2234 02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:32,490 know. And so they all the networks covered it, because I 2235 02:17:32,490 --> 02:17:35,430 think because Trump complained and which I think is interesting 2236 02:17:35,430 --> 02:17:38,970 in itself. But the thing about that David Murer interview, 2237 02:17:38,970 --> 02:17:41,490 which was on ABC, and there's nothing to clip from it, as far 2238 02:17:41,490 --> 02:17:45,360 as you may have something interesting was that this is 2239 02:17:45,690 --> 02:17:48,990 these things are usually all exclusive. Oh, we got a 2240 02:17:48,990 --> 02:17:51,300 copyrighted story on the front of the New York Times. Usually, 2241 02:17:51,840 --> 02:17:54,600 when you see a news, here's a little tip. You don't see it as 2242 02:17:54,600 --> 02:17:57,180 much as you used to. But when you used to see a front page 2243 02:17:57,180 --> 02:18:00,420 story about some breaking news thing, and it says copyrighted 2244 02:18:01,380 --> 02:18:05,850 on the head and say, Is it copyrighted? In the story or 2245 02:18:05,850 --> 02:18:08,310 somewhere? Is it copyrighted by you do who the writer is that 2246 02:18:08,310 --> 02:18:10,620 they put it in different ways, but it says Copyright? That's 2247 02:18:10,620 --> 02:18:13,200 the message to the other newspapers that you can steal 2248 02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:16,380 this? Right, right, right. Right. Right. The David Muir 2249 02:18:16,380 --> 02:18:24,870 interview, which ran on ABC, was simultaneously seen on CBS, PBS, 2250 02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:28,380 and probably NBC even though it wasn't monitoring NBC at the 2251 02:18:28,380 --> 02:18:33,360 same time, it was running on ABC. As if it was a viewer, we 2252 02:18:33,360 --> 02:18:36,120 got the interview. Now let's pass it around, which is to me 2253 02:18:36,300 --> 02:18:41,190 very, you know, it's almost, I would say, illegal, it's like, 2254 02:18:41,220 --> 02:18:44,700 you know, they're colluding. They don't even care that they 2255 02:18:44,700 --> 02:18:48,450 have the exclusive The idea is to do some trap questions. And 2256 02:18:48,450 --> 02:18:50,850 there we go, and you send out copies to everybody, and they 2257 02:18:50,850 --> 02:18:54,930 all run it. I just thought that was I personally found it very, 2258 02:18:54,930 --> 02:18:55,050 do 2259 02:18:55,050 --> 02:18:57,960 you think that was some kind of deal, like under a pool deal or 2260 02:18:57,960 --> 02:18:58,890 something? I 2261 02:18:58,889 --> 02:19:02,339 think I think it was an unwritten agreement that we're 2262 02:19:02,339 --> 02:19:06,629 going to do this interview, because Trump kind of finds that 2263 02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:10,319 ABC, which is says in a leaner report to this kind of soft, 2264 02:19:10,529 --> 02:19:15,029 soft is of the network's for him. And, and so he will do a b 2265 02:19:15,029 --> 02:19:18,239 So David mirrors kind of a soft interviewer is not a hard ass 2266 02:19:18,239 --> 02:19:21,419 and he seems pleasant. So he does that, but they set him up. 2267 02:19:21,659 --> 02:19:23,999 And then next thing you know, is on all the networks, I found 2268 02:19:23,999 --> 02:19:27,239 that to be very disconcerting. It means that the networks are 2269 02:19:27,239 --> 02:19:27,359 in 2270 02:19:27,690 --> 02:19:31,710 collusion. Yeah, colluding. Sure. I know. I'm sorry. 2271 02:19:32,190 --> 02:19:34,980 Not just go on. There was a thing. There was a woman that 2272 02:19:34,980 --> 02:19:40,230 came up on PBS about and she came out of this pro life march, 2273 02:19:40,230 --> 02:19:42,180 which I never heard of in my life, even though that it's 2274 02:19:42,180 --> 02:19:46,110 happened 44 times. And they tried to trap her too, but she 2275 02:19:46,140 --> 02:19:50,490 goes right into, I guess she understood that this could 2276 02:19:50,490 --> 02:19:54,690 happen and she had it figured out because it was like, it was 2277 02:19:54,690 --> 02:19:57,750 trying to be a trap question and then she kind of disarmed it in 2278 02:19:57,750 --> 02:20:00,750 such a way that it became very awkward for the Interviewer is 2279 02:20:00,750 --> 02:20:05,880 very interesting. This is Marjorie Dennings Felder was one 2280 02:20:05,880 --> 02:20:08,790 of the leaders, one of the one of the I think one of the 2281 02:20:08,790 --> 02:20:10,470 leaders of this March is interest 2282 02:20:10,470 --> 02:20:13,860 all for overturning it in a day, I think it's more likely that 2283 02:20:13,860 --> 02:20:18,090 we'll see modest proposals that are enacted into the law, and 2284 02:20:18,090 --> 02:20:20,580 then slowly the will of the people will be enacted into the 2285 02:20:20,580 --> 02:20:21,450 law as well. 2286 02:20:22,110 --> 02:20:24,660 You know, you know, many people are still parsing the recent 2287 02:20:24,660 --> 02:20:27,240 election and the outcome. And I have to ask you, even 2288 02:20:27,240 --> 02:20:33,060 personally, I saw a letter from January 2016, in which a number 2289 02:20:33,060 --> 02:20:37,500 of anti abortion leaders wrote a letter saying anybody but Donald 2290 02:20:37,500 --> 02:20:40,950 Trump, and there was a quote in there that said, As women we are 2291 02:20:40,950 --> 02:20:44,220 disgusted by Mr. Trump's treatment of individuals, women 2292 02:20:44,220 --> 02:20:45,090 in particular, 2293 02:20:45,150 --> 02:20:48,270 yeah. Was the letter that was the author. I know, that's 2294 02:20:48,270 --> 02:20:48,870 why I'm asking you. 2295 02:20:48,900 --> 02:20:53,100 I know I'm saying Good question. Yes, I was the author of that 2296 02:20:53,100 --> 02:20:55,860 letter. He was our last choice because of the reasons that were 2297 02:20:55,860 --> 02:20:58,710 stated in that letter. He was our last choice. And then until 2298 02:20:58,740 --> 02:21:02,550 he was our first choice, and why was he our first choice? He was 2299 02:21:02,550 --> 02:21:05,850 because we were comparing to people with fatal character 2300 02:21:05,850 --> 02:21:08,940 flaws in our opinion. At that point, we thought that we 2301 02:21:08,940 --> 02:21:12,030 weren't sure before that, who we could trust. But there was no 2302 02:21:12,030 --> 02:21:15,240 question that when we compare Hillary Clinton, her treatment 2303 02:21:15,240 --> 02:21:17,940 of the women that went through her husband's life, and hit and 2304 02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:21,150 and Trump and how, and the concerns that we had about the 2305 02:21:21,150 --> 02:21:24,720 outrageous things that he said, we were voting on policy in the 2306 02:21:24,720 --> 02:21:28,680 end, and policy must rule the day, when you have a choice like 2307 02:21:28,680 --> 02:21:33,030 that. And for us, he was far greater, committed pro life and 2308 02:21:33,030 --> 02:21:36,690 is turning out to be the far better choice because he is 2309 02:21:36,690 --> 02:21:39,420 following through on the commitments and become the 2310 02:21:39,420 --> 02:21:41,100 person that we hope that he would be. 2311 02:21:41,190 --> 02:21:43,320 Excuse me, I just want to ask you one more question briefly, 2312 02:21:43,320 --> 02:21:46,110 if you could, just thinking again, about the causes and the 2313 02:21:46,110 --> 02:21:49,440 factors behind the election. How much do you think abortion put 2314 02:21:49,440 --> 02:21:52,110 was a factor in the end in Donald Trump's victory, 2315 02:21:52,170 --> 02:21:57,660 it was the biggest factor in any election. Any in any election 2316 02:21:57,690 --> 02:22:00,540 that abortion was a major factor. He believes that we know 2317 02:22:00,540 --> 02:22:03,240 that we saw the numbers of voters that we brought to the 2318 02:22:03,240 --> 02:22:06,540 polls in battleground states. It was a number one Googled item 2319 02:22:06,720 --> 02:22:09,930 the day before the election, people was on their minds. And 2320 02:22:09,930 --> 02:22:12,930 we brought and we brought those votes to the battleground states 2321 02:22:12,930 --> 02:22:16,650 for a win and and and he knows that in sodas Mike Pence, 2322 02:22:17,040 --> 02:22:19,650 Marjorie Dannenfelser. Take credit. 2323 02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:21,210 This is Tim teapot, 2324 02:22:21,210 --> 02:22:24,870 this whole thing. It's bullcrap. But yeah, that was nonsense. But 2325 02:22:24,900 --> 02:22:27,600 the thing that was interesting to me was that she he tried to 2326 02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:34,140 do a setup. Yeah. And he says, I saw this make this point. I saw 2327 02:22:34,170 --> 02:22:34,830 a letter. 2328 02:22:35,280 --> 02:22:37,230 Yeah, he knew damn well, she wrote it. 2329 02:22:38,550 --> 02:22:43,800 He should have said you wrote a letter and then go into that. 2330 02:22:43,830 --> 02:22:47,190 That means she's not trying to trap her. Well, he says I saw a 2331 02:22:47,190 --> 02:22:49,740 letter and then starts quoting from it. He's trying to get her 2332 02:22:49,740 --> 02:22:52,710 to say well that's terrible that are on your you wrote it right. 2333 02:22:52,740 --> 02:22:55,470 Sort of a thing. I found it disreputable 2334 02:22:55,470 --> 02:23:00,210 presuming that Yeah, well, it's what is it? PBS? Yeah, that's 2335 02:23:00,210 --> 02:23:05,130 PBS. Yeah, go figure. I'm finally finally I got some 2336 02:23:05,130 --> 02:23:08,520 information. And I love when we get it from our producers, 2337 02:23:08,520 --> 02:23:12,330 firsthand out of DC. Got some information about the 2338 02:23:12,390 --> 02:23:13,770 inauguration crowd. 2339 02:23:15,210 --> 02:23:16,230 God, ya know, 2340 02:23:16,230 --> 02:23:19,830 you'll like it. It's good. Hey, Adam, first things first. This 2341 02:23:19,830 --> 02:23:22,590 is a first hand report. I'm leaving on a few details. And I 2342 02:23:22,590 --> 02:23:25,290 cannot share what agency I worked for. Please, and I 2343 02:23:25,290 --> 02:23:28,440 mentioned my name for us on the show. And I verified this 2344 02:23:28,440 --> 02:23:32,670 person. So I know what agency he works for. Onto the story. There 2345 02:23:32,670 --> 02:23:35,370 was a meeting two days ago that involve White House staff, 2346 02:23:35,370 --> 02:23:38,970 including Kellyanne Conway, senior Secret Service officials, 2347 02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:41,880 senior security personnel from the Smithsonian Institute, 2348 02:23:42,030 --> 02:23:45,090 senior security personnel from National Park Service plus a few 2349 02:23:45,090 --> 02:23:48,330 others. The purpose of this meeting was to determine why the 2350 02:23:48,330 --> 02:23:51,720 inauguration crowd was so small and to explain it to the White 2351 02:23:51,720 --> 02:23:55,860 House. I think you would say Trump, the answer is very 2352 02:23:55,860 --> 02:23:59,040 simple. In previous years, the security checkpoints and 2353 02:23:59,040 --> 02:24:02,220 magnetometers were not on the mall. They were only on the 2354 02:24:02,220 --> 02:24:05,730 parade route. large portions of the mall remain basically open 2355 02:24:05,730 --> 02:24:09,090 which allowed the crowds to move about more freely. The inaugural 2356 02:24:09,090 --> 02:24:11,820 planning committee this year insisted on making this change. 2357 02:24:11,850 --> 02:24:15,210 And it is the general consensus that this change combined with a 2358 02:24:15,210 --> 02:24:18,120 total lack of confidence in DC metro rail to keep up with 2359 02:24:18,120 --> 02:24:21,300 demand. They have had a terrible rash of safety and maintenance 2360 02:24:21,300 --> 02:24:24,480 issues over the last 18 months. Plus the forecast for rain was 2361 02:24:24,480 --> 02:24:27,840 enough to keep people away. Apparently, that was not enough 2362 02:24:27,840 --> 02:24:30,450 for the White House though, because now all agencies with 2363 02:24:30,450 --> 02:24:33,690 cameras on the mall are being asked to provide a variety of 2364 02:24:33,690 --> 02:24:37,950 data over a 12 hour period. I would estimate that a combined 2365 02:24:37,950 --> 02:24:41,550 3000 man hours will be dedicated to this fiasco when it's all 2366 02:24:41,550 --> 02:24:45,600 over with with an average hourly rate of $45. That's $135 in 2367 02:24:45,600 --> 02:24:49,020 taxpayer dollars pissed away on essentially nothing. And I then 2368 02:24:49,050 --> 02:24:54,240 went back and asked him specifically do you think as do 2369 02:24:54,240 --> 02:24:57,750 the audit numbers there? Was it a huge big Lee crowd he says 2370 02:24:57,750 --> 02:25:00,810 now, the interpretation of the photos base same crowd density 2371 02:25:00,810 --> 02:25:02,970 has been accepted by everyone except the president, it 2372 02:25:02,970 --> 02:25:06,900 appears. I believe that is why all agencies were asked to 2373 02:25:06,900 --> 02:25:09,750 review video from areas that may have not been shown from the 2374 02:25:09,750 --> 02:25:13,440 monument long shots. The whole thing is stupid. Hopefully, he 2375 02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:15,420 lets it die after this, because I do not see the numbers 2376 02:25:15,420 --> 02:25:18,690 changing. So I'm taking this I'll take this as fact, from our 2377 02:25:18,690 --> 02:25:22,500 producer. First, it's really the first report that I think is 2378 02:25:22,920 --> 02:25:26,910 credible. Because he's looking at that he's looking at the 2379 02:25:26,910 --> 02:25:29,700 information. Yeah. 2380 02:25:30,960 --> 02:25:34,560 I'm sure it's it sounds right. Yeah, I think the whole thing is 2381 02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:37,140 something of a tempest in a teapot. I don't know why. 2382 02:25:37,500 --> 02:25:44,400 Trump's what the point is. Maybe just to name this. 2383 02:25:44,430 --> 02:25:50,460 I have no idea. Well, that is, that's the question. Why? So I'm 2384 02:25:50,460 --> 02:25:54,690 starting to go to the camp of man. Are you fucking moron? Stop 2385 02:25:54,690 --> 02:26:00,060 it. Do you just want to prove the media wrong? You need to 2386 02:26:00,060 --> 02:26:04,140 choose a different topic. You're not going to win this one. And I 2387 02:26:04,140 --> 02:26:06,450 understand how you looked out and you saw that it look really 2388 02:26:06,450 --> 02:26:11,460 full. I get it. And I'm just happy we have people who can do 2389 02:26:11,460 --> 02:26:17,670 these things. Yeah, well. The underwhelmed nature of your 2390 02:26:17,670 --> 02:26:19,470 response is always heartening. 2391 02:26:20,340 --> 02:26:23,520 Well, it's just okay. I mean, I this way I thought before the 2392 02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:24,360 report was given, 2393 02:26:24,480 --> 02:26:29,280 but I was not so sure. Now I'm sure so I Oh, I mean, I'm coming 2394 02:26:29,280 --> 02:26:30,450 over to your side now. 2395 02:26:32,340 --> 02:26:36,300 I think the bigger stories and he had some insight into why 2396 02:26:36,300 --> 02:26:41,160 Trump is so preoccupied with this specific one thing, and why 2397 02:26:41,160 --> 02:26:43,140 he has to say it. I mean, he has 2398 02:26:43,950 --> 02:26:48,150 it can be only one thing. It has to be ego. 2399 02:26:52,830 --> 02:26:56,250 You know what, it doesn't necessarily have to be ego. It 2400 02:26:56,250 --> 02:26:59,250 could be his. He's fooling himself. 2401 02:27:01,260 --> 02:27:04,980 Yeah, well, that's yeah, of course. That can be a Mandela 2402 02:27:04,980 --> 02:27:08,130 effect. If this is this has Mandela Effect written all over 2403 02:27:08,130 --> 02:27:13,710 it? Oh, God. All right. Finally, a quick, short, whole, the whole 2404 02:27:13,740 --> 02:27:16,500 show that we do has Mandela Effect written over? 2405 02:27:16,710 --> 02:27:19,920 A quick a quick few shorties here. Before we get to get into 2406 02:27:19,920 --> 02:27:22,920 our donation segment, longtime producer, I work as a producer, 2407 02:27:22,920 --> 02:27:26,220 Production Manager for an event space in midtown Manhattan, that 2408 02:27:26,220 --> 02:27:29,040 specializes in high end corporate fundraisers, Galarza 2409 02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:32,520 and investor meetings. While we were freeing up some space on 2410 02:27:32,520 --> 02:27:35,910 one of our audio recorders, I found the recording for an event 2411 02:27:35,910 --> 02:27:40,080 for the NRDC, that is the National Resources Defense 2412 02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:43,710 Council. This event featured Hollywood comedians, right the 2413 02:27:43,710 --> 02:27:46,290 day after the election. Nevertheless, there was not a 2414 02:27:46,290 --> 02:27:48,360 lot of comedy during the event, but I was able to go through the 2415 02:27:48,360 --> 02:27:52,710 two hour event and find the best ISOs if you do use them, please. 2416 02:27:52,770 --> 02:27:57,330 I'd like to remain anonymous. I got a couple of ISOs here from 2417 02:27:57,330 --> 02:27:58,350 that private event. 2418 02:28:01,530 --> 02:28:03,510 I'm all ears. George Lopez. 2419 02:28:03,540 --> 02:28:05,910 Everybody knows Donald Trump doesn't doesn't like immigrants, 2420 02:28:05,910 --> 02:28:07,320 but then stop marrying them. 2421 02:28:09,930 --> 02:28:12,480 Actually, that jokes old he does he did that joke before. 2422 02:28:12,510 --> 02:28:17,730 Who is Hasan? Minaj Minaj. Do we know Hasan? Minaj? Yeah. No, I 2423 02:28:17,730 --> 02:28:19,440 don't need you. Apparently comedian. 2424 02:28:19,470 --> 02:28:21,360 Here's what blows my mind. We're here in New York, right? We're 2425 02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:23,430 in the little liberal bubble. Like we don't understand who's 2426 02:28:23,430 --> 02:28:25,500 actually voting for Trump. We don't know what's going on in 2427 02:28:25,500 --> 02:28:27,030 Montana and we shouldn't but 2428 02:28:30,270 --> 02:28:34,740 Seth Meyers? Good. Seth Meyers two jokes from him. 2429 02:28:34,770 --> 02:28:37,530 And I shook his crib until he woke up and I said we got to get 2430 02:28:37,530 --> 02:28:38,220 out of here. 2431 02:28:39,360 --> 02:28:41,220 I don't know if he's talking about Trump or his own kid. 2432 02:28:41,910 --> 02:28:43,440 Another one from Seth Meyers. 2433 02:28:43,500 --> 02:28:46,260 So I tried to find a positive and I said when you wake up 2434 02:28:46,260 --> 02:28:50,010 tomorrow, this nation will for the first time have a president 2435 02:28:50,010 --> 02:28:54,150 who was a steak sales. Yeah, 2436 02:28:54,180 --> 02:28:55,380 not cutting her. No, I'm 2437 02:28:55,380 --> 02:28:58,260 telling you that you guys are funnier. John Ayers has this 2438 02:28:58,260 --> 02:29:01,410 stuff mostly written forms? I don't know stuff there. Well, 2439 02:29:01,410 --> 02:29:01,710 John 2440 02:29:01,710 --> 02:29:03,150 Oliver has the final one so 2441 02:29:03,150 --> 02:29:05,130 you can do it you can fight 2442 02:29:05,130 --> 02:29:05,970 facts 2443 02:29:07,410 --> 02:29:11,100 that's actually more on Andrews show so I think we should keep 2444 02:29:11,100 --> 02:29:13,980 that well that's that's how sad they were. They could not come 2445 02:29:13,980 --> 02:29:16,050 up with a single funny line apparently. 2446 02:29:16,500 --> 02:29:20,610 I think I think the stop marrying immigrants is a good 2447 02:29:20,610 --> 02:29:21,750 one. That low pass. 2448 02:29:22,260 --> 02:29:24,630 Everybody knows Donald Trump doesn't doesn't like immigrants, 2449 02:29:24,630 --> 02:29:26,010 but then stop marrying them. 2450 02:29:26,730 --> 02:29:30,180 I'm going to show my school by donate to no agenda. Imagine all 2451 02:29:30,180 --> 02:29:32,700 the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. 2452 02:29:40,530 --> 02:29:47,130 We do have a few people to thank for show 899 A few 899 899 2453 02:29:47,340 --> 02:29:50,760 Starting with Donald Barofsky and Spokane Valley, Washington 2454 02:29:50,760 --> 02:29:56,880 12345. He has a he was the unfortunate I think he's good. I 2455 02:29:56,880 --> 02:29:58,710 could be wrong but I think he got kicked out of the 2456 02:29:58,710 --> 02:29:59,400 Federation. 2457 02:29:59,610 --> 02:30:04,110 Oh no. Isn't he's not writing on his stationery. Oh, well, we 2458 02:30:04,110 --> 02:30:06,390 need to get the skinny on that. 2459 02:30:06,929 --> 02:30:09,509 I don't know, whatever the case is he's now writing apparently 2460 02:30:09,509 --> 02:30:11,819 he's quit to Federation of Planets and now he's working for 2461 02:30:11,819 --> 02:30:13,229 HP. Oh, 2462 02:30:13,560 --> 02:30:15,390 that's a different Federation altogether. 2463 02:30:16,169 --> 02:30:19,709 No, he's I read a note that HP started as an electronic test 2464 02:30:19,709 --> 02:30:22,859 and measurement company had split off this business in 1998, 2465 02:30:23,009 --> 02:30:26,879 which became Agilent Technologies. Okay, John and 2466 02:30:26,879 --> 02:30:29,039 Adam, thanks for the continuing excellent analysis of the 2467 02:30:29,039 --> 02:30:31,529 reaction to the Donald Trump presidency. It's interesting to 2468 02:30:31,529 --> 02:30:34,829 note how alert the mainstream media has now become after eight 2469 02:30:34,829 --> 02:30:37,979 years of slumber during Obama's stay in the White House and 2470 02:30:37,979 --> 02:30:42,119 Okay, contrast is to no agenda, which has been and continues to 2471 02:30:42,119 --> 02:30:45,659 be on the ball with regards to the news of the day chairs. 2472 02:30:46,829 --> 02:30:51,449 Okay, all right. Thank you. We are on the ball Tom. Thomas. 2473 02:30:51,959 --> 02:30:55,139 schenone I guess it is Chinotto what you know, it's 2474 02:30:55,140 --> 02:30:56,820 general what I would say schenone 2475 02:30:57,840 --> 02:31:01,500 can be shifted spelt with an S It's gotta run on here. It's s 2476 02:31:01,500 --> 02:31:05,100 ch unknown. SJ unknown. Thanks for the great analysis and 2477 02:31:05,100 --> 02:31:07,470 unique media deconstructions refreshing to get a regular 2478 02:31:07,470 --> 02:31:13,050 reminder that I am fact I am not in fact, insane. Something I've 2479 02:31:13,050 --> 02:31:15,810 noticed that hasn't gotten any airtime at the right wing press. 2480 02:31:15,930 --> 02:31:19,920 Why hasn't anyone gone after the person at NBC who leaked the who 2481 02:31:19,920 --> 02:31:23,520 leaked the grab them by the pussy audio? No one is saying 2482 02:31:23,520 --> 02:31:27,120 that NBC meddled in the election by releasing it. Well, that's a 2483 02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:31,050 good no one's good point. And no one is calling for the FBI to 2484 02:31:31,050 --> 02:31:35,850 investigate. But is what the person at NBC and what the 2485 02:31:35,850 --> 02:31:39,030 Russians did substantially different both leaked 2486 02:31:39,030 --> 02:31:41,340 inflammatory but authentic information about our 2487 02:31:41,340 --> 02:31:44,400 presidential candidates. I'm gonna give meddled and hack the 2488 02:31:44,400 --> 02:31:45,120 election giving 2489 02:31:45,120 --> 02:31:46,920 him a point for that. Thank you. All right, 2490 02:31:46,950 --> 02:31:49,680 I am too. Could there be any other motives for doing this 2491 02:31:49,680 --> 02:31:52,470 other than the left covering for itself? Where am I wrong? And 2492 02:31:52,470 --> 02:31:55,320 these two instances are actually different? I'm interested to 2493 02:31:55,320 --> 02:31:56,670 hear your takes on it. No, I 2494 02:31:56,670 --> 02:31:59,970 think it's exactly the same you nailed it. Yeah, dynamite. 2495 02:32:01,140 --> 02:32:02,190 We should have actually 2496 02:32:03,119 --> 02:32:06,419 myself pissed at myself for for dropping. We dropped the ball. 2497 02:32:06,419 --> 02:32:07,889 Yeah, thank you for alerting us. 2498 02:32:10,170 --> 02:32:15,090 Okay, onward to me, by the way, he came in at $120.17 from 2499 02:32:15,090 --> 02:32:23,640 Chicago, anonymous. 113 33. Kevin Kelly $101.01 and Michael 2500 02:32:24,390 --> 02:32:31,680 ince, 9741 Ralph Massaro in Kirkland, Washington. The brand 2501 02:32:31,680 --> 02:32:36,480 of Costco serves Z p and he came a 90 Sir Z. These are the $90 2502 02:32:36,480 --> 02:32:41,460 donors celebrating our 9900 shows. Three of them. Sir, zip 2503 02:32:41,580 --> 02:32:46,410 have Lusitania CP, Sir Don. Parts Unknown Melissa Hodges. 2504 02:32:50,130 --> 02:32:56,550 Oops. Melissa just came into the 808. Patrick COBOL COBOL to you, 2505 02:32:56,580 --> 02:33:04,560 Patrick. Yes. 808 Brian Rosa. In Milton, New York. 808. And 2506 02:33:04,560 --> 02:33:05,040 that's it. 2507 02:33:05,070 --> 02:33:08,880 And we have oh, this isn't? Kyle, take it back. 2508 02:33:09,179 --> 02:33:12,359 I think he's got this wrong, too. Because I believe Kyle 2509 02:33:12,659 --> 02:33:19,169 blank came in at 808 Ah, with buddies pop money. We have a 2510 02:33:19,169 --> 02:33:24,479 search for it. I've had to make a decision. Oh, no, it's not an 2511 02:33:24,479 --> 02:33:30,749 O. It's an O. So the pot of money comes in and it shows up 2512 02:33:30,749 --> 02:33:34,079 on the bank statement. So I'm going to do the pop money things 2513 02:33:34,079 --> 02:33:40,349 once a month at the last show of the month. Okay. And so I'll go 2514 02:33:40,349 --> 02:33:42,959 back in that way. Or maybe in during the middle of I'm going 2515 02:33:42,959 --> 02:33:45,269 to do a once a month, whatever it may be, but I'm not going to 2516 02:33:45,269 --> 02:33:47,459 do it when it comes in necessarily. Because it's I had 2517 02:33:47,459 --> 02:33:51,299 to be looking all the time. No. Which is a pain in the ass. Like 2518 02:33:51,299 --> 02:33:52,409 what was your idea? 2519 02:33:52,560 --> 02:33:54,720 She was set everybody up? Yeah, I 2520 02:33:54,720 --> 02:33:56,880 did. It's fine. I don't care about that. As long as people 2521 02:33:56,880 --> 02:34:01,140 don't want the they don't need immediate satisfaction. Okay. 2522 02:34:01,320 --> 02:34:04,920 All right. That's right. I just warning them got it. So Kyle 2523 02:34:04,920 --> 02:34:09,120 blanket 808 in San Diego, Sir Kevin deals Baron of the mecca 2524 02:34:09,120 --> 02:34:12,750 of Mecklenburg County, Charlotte, North Carolina 6432. 2525 02:34:13,140 --> 02:34:18,420 James Cashion, the second 5640 sevens. Got a birthday got it. 2526 02:34:19,140 --> 02:34:24,510 Bob of wrath was at RAF mal wrath, rail, rough mill. Double 2527 02:34:24,510 --> 02:34:29,220 nickels on the dime. Dig Christopher trop in Sturgis, 2528 02:34:29,220 --> 02:34:34,320 Michigan 54. And that's 900 nickels and 900 pennies. Yes, 2529 02:34:34,320 --> 02:34:39,540 that's 45 Plus, like 59. It's actually an interesting idea. 2530 02:34:39,630 --> 02:34:42,870 And it ended with five plus four equals nine. Yeah, I'll put that 2531 02:34:42,870 --> 02:34:46,560 in the next newsletters and I like it. It's a good one. Eric 2532 02:34:46,590 --> 02:34:52,320 Mahoney in Hamilton, Ontario 5387 Eric Holcomb and Berlin 2533 02:34:52,320 --> 02:34:56,820 Deutschland 52. David and the rest of these are $50 donors 2534 02:34:56,820 --> 02:34:59,160 name and location David Middlebrook Parts Unknown 2535 02:34:59,160 --> 02:35:04,500 Benjamin gar luck, Garlock in Savoy, Illinois 50 Peter Sir 2536 02:35:04,500 --> 02:35:09,150 Peter toe Chase and Parts Unknown. Ross Turpin and Troy 2537 02:35:09,180 --> 02:35:16,260 Kansas. Bender all in Multan New York. Baron Sir Mark Tanner in 2538 02:35:16,260 --> 02:35:19,860 Whittier, California. And last but not least, Eric van marter. 2539 02:35:21,150 --> 02:35:24,600 Pop money. And that's it. That's all we got. Yeah, so we got 2540 02:35:24,600 --> 02:35:24,990 today. 2541 02:35:25,020 --> 02:35:27,780 Yeah. Well, hopefully everyone is holding out for the big 900 2542 02:35:27,780 --> 02:35:31,530 Show, which will be on Thursday. And so wish that is our wish. 2543 02:35:31,560 --> 02:35:37,260 Yes, indeed. And you can remember us for that, at 2544 02:35:37,260 --> 02:35:40,200 devora.org/na Thank you all so much everyone who came in above 2545 02:35:40,200 --> 02:35:44,700 $50. Typically, for reasons of anonymity, anonymity, anonymity 2546 02:35:44,700 --> 02:35:48,930 and Menominee. anonymity. People also on the subscriptions, have 2547 02:35:48,930 --> 02:35:51,060 a check at devora.org/na 2548 02:35:51,120 --> 02:35:55,710 vo red.org/n A n we didn't get a lot of requests, 2549 02:35:55,710 --> 02:35:57,000 but just in case here's some job. 2550 02:35:57,210 --> 02:36:02,220 Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 2551 02:36:04,230 --> 02:36:05,880 You've got karma. 2552 02:36:15,060 --> 02:36:18,600 quickie list James cucina second turns 34 Today we say happy 2553 02:36:18,600 --> 02:36:21,330 birthday to him and Anna bar loss and the little say happy 2554 02:36:21,330 --> 02:36:24,390 birthday to her husband and their dad. Ignacio Happy 2555 02:36:24,390 --> 02:36:27,300 birthday, everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. 2556 02:36:28,680 --> 02:36:32,970 One knighting today John has to bout to have a great title 2557 02:36:32,970 --> 02:36:35,760 change jingle which just came in? We don't have a title 2558 02:36:35,760 --> 02:36:38,040 change. Do you want to want to hear it? So we can 2559 02:36:38,070 --> 02:36:40,140 no no, no, I think you should save and surprised me when 2560 02:36:40,140 --> 02:36:43,260 there's actually a title change. Oh, but but then people might be 2561 02:36:43,410 --> 02:36:45,240 you want to play it? Okay. Well, 2562 02:36:45,270 --> 02:36:47,610 I'm asking you a question. People might be motivated, 2563 02:36:47,910 --> 02:36:50,010 because then they could have this jingle played for them. 2564 02:36:50,910 --> 02:36:51,210 Now, 2565 02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:53,430 it'd be more motivated by the mystery. 2566 02:36:53,460 --> 02:36:59,670 Okay, mystery it is. Instead of that, give me your blade comes 2567 02:37:00,420 --> 02:37:07,320 beautiful. Brad Walker. Come on up. Well, Brad, thanks to you. 2568 02:37:08,580 --> 02:37:11,340 We're barely keeping our heads above water. But you sir, have 2569 02:37:11,340 --> 02:37:15,690 contributed to the only best podcast in the universe in this 2570 02:37:15,690 --> 02:37:18,840 universe. 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And he'll get 2581 02:37:53,490 --> 02:37:58,620 that off to you post haste, as we say, Hmm, 2582 02:37:58,890 --> 02:38:03,630 CBS has decided to do a kind of I think this is gonna last not 2583 02:38:03,630 --> 02:38:06,810 very long, but it could go on for a while. A fact check 2584 02:38:06,810 --> 02:38:07,320 section. 2585 02:38:07,440 --> 02:38:10,710 Oh, fact? Yes. Actually. It's actually called the fact check 2586 02:38:10,710 --> 02:38:11,220 section. 2587 02:38:11,370 --> 02:38:14,610 No, but that's what it is. They're rolling out a Trump 2588 02:38:14,610 --> 02:38:16,800 statement. And they're saying what really is they did they 2589 02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:20,190 only had two on this particular one. But let me give. 2590 02:38:21,000 --> 02:38:23,070 It's a soft launch of the segment then. 2591 02:38:24,060 --> 02:38:30,360 Example of something like that, you know, dozens and dozens of 2592 02:38:30,360 --> 02:38:37,260 protesters have crowded my hallway. And then you say no, it 2593 02:38:37,260 --> 02:38:42,210 was 19 people and call me a liar. Because it's not dozens. 2594 02:38:43,020 --> 02:38:46,830 Or dozens and dozens. Yeah. Which flies, whereas more than a 2595 02:38:46,830 --> 02:38:50,730 dozen vendors or yes, it could be could be. So I'm a liar now 2596 02:38:50,760 --> 02:38:53,520 because you're a shoot well, yes. huge lie. And you've proven 2597 02:38:53,520 --> 02:38:57,150 it. Yeah, he's proven. Bam, nailed it. So you have to be 2598 02:38:57,150 --> 02:38:59,520 very specific when you say anything. So when Trump says 2599 02:38:59,520 --> 02:39:03,990 millions of millions, they can prove it's not true. And so this 2600 02:39:03,990 --> 02:39:09,030 is a big deal. Okay. Now, here's CBS cherry picking 2601 02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:10,950 facts. Okay. 2602 02:39:11,010 --> 02:39:14,700 In the news conference that we wondered about. Mr. Trump said 2603 02:39:14,700 --> 02:39:18,930 that the United States is losing quote millions and millions of 2604 02:39:18,930 --> 02:39:23,340 jobs to Mexico. Our research department found this most 2605 02:39:23,340 --> 02:39:29,970 recent survey ending in 2010 estimated that at most 682,000 2606 02:39:29,970 --> 02:39:33,570 jobs have been lost since the North American Free Trade 2607 02:39:33,570 --> 02:39:39,120 Agreement began in 1994. Mr. Trump also said the US loses in 2608 02:39:39,120 --> 02:39:44,130 trade to every single country. But for the record, the US has a 2609 02:39:44,130 --> 02:39:49,500 trade surplus with most countries 130 to a deficit with 2610 02:39:49,530 --> 02:39:51,540 102 Fact Check false. 2611 02:39:53,220 --> 02:39:58,080 Okay, yeah, there was I it was one little good day that the 2612 02:39:58,080 --> 02:40:01,290 trade deficit thing I mean, we'd have Look at the you can see 2613 02:40:01,290 --> 02:40:03,900 it's not we don't have one with the big traders. We don't have 2614 02:40:03,900 --> 02:40:07,080 one with Mexico. We don't have one with China. Or you know, we 2615 02:40:07,080 --> 02:40:10,440 don't we have a deficit. But that's beside the point. There's 2616 02:40:10,440 --> 02:40:14,550 130 Little bitty countries as Samoa I'm sure we have that we 2617 02:40:14,550 --> 02:40:17,550 can make 10 bucks a year. But that's beside the point. There 2618 02:40:17,550 --> 02:40:21,000 was a little gotchu in there. Yet I don't know if you caught 2619 02:40:21,000 --> 02:40:24,600 it or not. But it was like them kind of fudging, to say the 2620 02:40:24,600 --> 02:40:29,790 least. And by the way, 682,000 If Trump had said 1000s and 2621 02:40:29,790 --> 02:40:33,270 1000s, or 10s of 1000s, or hundreds of 1000s. He had been 2622 02:40:33,270 --> 02:40:36,210 Okay in this segment, but he said millions instead which is 2623 02:40:36,210 --> 02:40:40,350 wrong. Well, it's right there's there's still a gotcha in here 2624 02:40:40,350 --> 02:40:43,080 that indicates this myth did CBS can be full of 2625 02:40:43,080 --> 02:40:45,810 crap. He should have said millions and millions of jobs 2626 02:40:45,810 --> 02:40:48,270 saved or created. And then it would have been okay. 2627 02:40:49,080 --> 02:40:55,440 Lost or lost or destroyed. Lost or lost or never created. That's 2628 02:40:55,440 --> 02:40:58,800 it last or never created last don't ever Yeah, exactly. Now, 2629 02:40:59,250 --> 02:41:01,290 did you notice the little, little? 2630 02:41:02,010 --> 02:41:04,170 Probably Didn't Know You didn't? 2631 02:41:05,100 --> 02:41:09,690 He says the numbers about but since the creation of NAFTA 2632 02:41:09,750 --> 02:41:17,190 2010. Oh, yeah, that's bullcrap. And he slipped it in smoothly. 2633 02:41:17,220 --> 02:41:19,140 Oh, damn it, I missed it. 2634 02:41:20,610 --> 02:41:23,550 It's just like, what? That's 2010. Those aren't real numbers. 2635 02:41:23,700 --> 02:41:26,550 The numbers are not that number anymore. So why don't you give 2636 02:41:26,550 --> 02:41:30,450 us the real numbers actually do some work. Anyway, I find that 2637 02:41:30,600 --> 02:41:33,120 segment is going to be a fiasco. 2638 02:41:33,150 --> 02:41:41,460 Well, this falls under the fake news segment on our show. And 2639 02:41:42,120 --> 02:41:47,040 one of our producers sent me a recording of that bastion of new 2640 02:41:47,040 --> 02:41:53,580 media, Ira Glass, Ira glasses. Now what he does this American 2641 02:41:53,580 --> 02:41:54,390 life, he has a 2642 02:41:54,420 --> 02:42:00,240 little he was a big shot at bit, NPR for years, doing all sorts 2643 02:42:00,240 --> 02:42:03,030 of things. And I think he went off and started to make money as 2644 02:42:03,030 --> 02:42:04,980 a podcast because they weren't gonna pay him enough for 2645 02:42:04,980 --> 02:42:05,460 something like, 2646 02:42:05,820 --> 02:42:09,180 Well, it's funny you bring that up. This is a speech he did at 2647 02:42:09,180 --> 02:42:16,080 the NPR, future of like an NPR future evening or something. And 2648 02:42:16,080 --> 02:42:21,360 so he, you know, people at NPR, certainly, but people like the 2649 02:42:21,360 --> 02:42:24,930 artists here in in Austin, you know, they hire glasses, you 2650 02:42:24,930 --> 02:42:30,600 know, is on the city's the male equivalency of Rachel Maddow. In 2651 02:42:30,600 --> 02:42:32,880 fact, that may be the same person, I'm not quite sure. 2652 02:42:33,570 --> 02:42:37,230 We've just never seen him in a photo together. And he was there 2653 02:42:37,230 --> 02:42:41,250 too. And this is mainly NPR people to talk about fake news, 2654 02:42:41,400 --> 02:42:45,720 facts based reporting, etc, etc. I thought it was fun. To have a 2655 02:42:45,720 --> 02:42:46,260 couple clips. 2656 02:42:46,289 --> 02:42:49,079 One way to measure the limited power of fact, based reporting 2657 02:42:49,079 --> 02:42:51,749 came to September when Donald Trump held a press conference 2658 02:42:51,749 --> 02:42:54,869 declaring it number one, he had personally concluded that Barack 2659 02:42:54,869 --> 02:42:59,099 Obama was born in this country. And number two, the rumor that 2660 02:42:59,099 --> 02:43:01,919 he was not born in this country was started by Hillary Clinton. 2661 02:43:02,250 --> 02:43:06,870 Now, let's just stop there for a moment. If I recall correctly, 2662 02:43:07,050 --> 02:43:11,130 it was not that Hillary Clinton had started the rumor, but that 2663 02:43:11,130 --> 02:43:14,220 it had started within the Hillary Clinton campaign. 2664 02:43:14,610 --> 02:43:16,050 Correct. And that 2665 02:43:16,050 --> 02:43:19,260 is correct. And that that we have to assume she approved of 2666 02:43:19,260 --> 02:43:19,410 it. 2667 02:43:20,190 --> 02:43:24,300 That's the assumption. But you can even leave that out. Right 2668 02:43:24,300 --> 02:43:29,310 off the bat. The question that is about to be asked is not did 2669 02:43:29,340 --> 02:43:32,130 it start in the Hillary Clinton campaign, but did Hillary 2670 02:43:32,130 --> 02:43:38,220 Clinton start it? So it's kind of a false narrative to start 2671 02:43:38,220 --> 02:43:43,320 with, but this he's going to use this to explain the fake news, 2672 02:43:43,320 --> 02:43:43,770 etc, that 2673 02:43:43,770 --> 02:43:46,620 he was not born in this country was started by Hillary Clinton. 2674 02:43:46,980 --> 02:43:50,760 That second claim everybody remember was refuted, almost in 2675 02:43:50,760 --> 02:43:55,470 real time. On my television forcefully and thirdly, by the 2676 02:43:55,500 --> 02:43:57,300 excellent and exemplary Jake Tapper 2677 02:43:57,300 --> 02:44:01,650 on, hold on a second. Just so you know, and just blow the guy 2678 02:44:01,650 --> 02:44:06,960 was done in almost in real time, by the excellent and exemplary. 2679 02:44:06,960 --> 02:44:11,100 My colleague, my friend, my confidant, the man I look up to 2680 02:44:11,100 --> 02:44:13,710 so much, Jake Tapper of CNN, 2681 02:44:14,430 --> 02:44:15,750 Paul leaves 2682 02:44:15,810 --> 02:44:19,650 an exemplary Jake Tapper on CNN and by a number of others, and 2683 02:44:19,650 --> 02:44:23,010 then the entire machine of the American mainstream media kicked 2684 02:44:23,010 --> 02:44:25,800 into gear immediately and for a few days, I liked 2685 02:44:25,800 --> 02:44:29,040 it. He admits it's a machine at least that's kind of cool. It's 2686 02:44:29,040 --> 02:44:30,720 a machine that kicked in Yes, 2687 02:44:30,900 --> 02:44:34,200 of the American mainstream media kicked into gear immediately and 2688 02:44:34,200 --> 02:44:38,010 for a few days, refuting the lie about Hillary Clinton starting 2689 02:44:38,010 --> 02:44:40,830 the Birther Controversy. And then a couple days after that, I 2690 02:44:40,830 --> 02:44:44,310 went looking for polling numbers on this issue. So the only poll 2691 02:44:44,310 --> 02:44:46,560 that I could find that hit this specific topic in the right 2692 02:44:46,560 --> 02:44:49,890 timeframe was a Monmouth poll of likely voters in Florida. It 2693 02:44:49,890 --> 02:44:53,610 showed that after Trump's press conference couple days after 1/3 2694 02:44:54,270 --> 02:44:57,240 now believe that Hillary Clinton started the Birther Controversy, 2695 02:44:58,260 --> 02:45:02,550 which is really depressing. Sometimes this year, I don't 2696 02:45:02,550 --> 02:45:06,090 know how you all are feeling. But sometimes it feels like as a 2697 02:45:06,090 --> 02:45:09,210 working journalist, I'm on a team that is losing yardage. 2698 02:45:09,990 --> 02:45:13,260 Week by week, I want to reach those people like I want to 2699 02:45:13,260 --> 02:45:16,050 reach that third. Like, I want to reach them, those people who 2700 02:45:16,050 --> 02:45:20,010 are not interested in factual information, or in fact, they 2701 02:45:20,010 --> 02:45:23,760 actively doubt the factual information presented by those 2702 02:45:23,760 --> 02:45:26,820 of us who are in the mainstream media. And it's a puzzle. 2703 02:45:26,909 --> 02:45:29,189 It's interesting how he's calling himself mainstream 2704 02:45:29,189 --> 02:45:34,439 media. Although maybe he's not it's very easy to try to walk a 2705 02:45:34,439 --> 02:45:37,799 very fine line here. I think because he's maybe not on NPR, 2706 02:45:37,799 --> 02:45:40,019 or, indeed, I don't know what it is. 2707 02:45:40,439 --> 02:45:44,309 I think it's referring to himself. Yeah, I think so. Is it 2708 02:45:44,309 --> 02:45:44,729 mainstream, 2709 02:45:45,630 --> 02:45:49,260 presented by those of us who are in the mainstream media? And 2710 02:45:49,260 --> 02:45:51,540 it's a puzzle, honestly, I've been thinking about for months, 2711 02:45:51,540 --> 02:45:54,780 like how do we present fact based reporting to people who do 2712 02:45:54,780 --> 02:45:58,320 not trust any of us in this room? Like, what do we need to 2713 02:45:58,320 --> 02:46:03,030 invent to do that? I will say because I am a fact based 2714 02:46:03,030 --> 02:46:03,510 person. 2715 02:46:04,770 --> 02:46:08,790 John, are you a fact based person? I think so. Are you 2716 02:46:08,790 --> 02:46:10,380 sure? Because it sounds like Yeah, 2717 02:46:10,380 --> 02:46:13,620 I had a bunch of facts came out. 2718 02:46:14,189 --> 02:46:20,309 To do that. I will say because I am a fact based person. The 2719 02:46:20,309 --> 02:46:23,999 answer to that is possibly that there's nothing we can do. 2720 02:46:24,300 --> 02:46:27,840 So this is big pause. Like there's nothing we can do. It's, 2721 02:46:28,050 --> 02:46:28,950 it's unbelievable. 2722 02:46:29,190 --> 02:46:31,350 It was a lie to begin with you phony, 2723 02:46:31,410 --> 02:46:35,310 it's unclear. It's unbelievable for him to first of all, he 2724 02:46:35,310 --> 02:46:38,970 doesn't even know the story or he's either lying on purpose or 2725 02:46:39,240 --> 02:46:42,480 the question is should not be what did Hillary Clinton started 2726 02:46:42,480 --> 02:46:46,170 doing to start in her campaign? So that's, you know, that is a 2727 02:46:46,500 --> 02:46:49,950 that's a fact check falls right off the top. But then it's like, 2728 02:46:50,010 --> 02:46:55,410 I don't know 30% of people who were polled we could trust those 2729 02:46:55,500 --> 02:46:59,010 believed it. I want to reach them. I want to convert them. 2730 02:46:59,040 --> 02:47:01,260 This is your conversion therapy right here, ladies and 2731 02:47:01,260 --> 02:47:05,310 gentlemen. And he's He's like, he's depressed now. And then he 2732 02:47:05,310 --> 02:47:05,850 says, 2733 02:47:06,810 --> 02:47:11,310 but I'll also say that just seems like quitter talk quitter 2734 02:47:11,310 --> 02:47:15,900 talk and, and, and among the American values that I believe 2735 02:47:15,900 --> 02:47:19,200 that journalists carry every day in their jobs in exemplary ways 2736 02:47:19,200 --> 02:47:21,870 is that we are not quitters. We make the extra phone call we do 2737 02:47:21,870 --> 02:47:28,710 the extra interview. Oh, we do not shut up ever. And I feel 2738 02:47:28,710 --> 02:47:30,360 like we need to run at this problem. 2739 02:47:30,390 --> 02:47:33,150 He's losing. He's losing the thread in his speech here when 2740 02:47:33,150 --> 02:47:36,630 you go like I don't know. I don't know. But but it's clear 2741 02:47:36,630 --> 02:47:39,540 journalists are not lazy John, they're happy to do the extra 2742 02:47:39,540 --> 02:47:43,500 interview. They're happy to do the extra mile. Anything you 2743 02:47:43,500 --> 02:47:48,090 need. Okay. Now one of our favorite topics, 2744 02:47:48,570 --> 02:47:51,540 has been countering the non factual statements coming out of 2745 02:47:51,540 --> 02:47:55,710 the White House has been totally wonderful to watch. 2746 02:48:01,980 --> 02:48:05,730 You rock I wrote so many moments in the Spicer press conferences 2747 02:48:05,730 --> 02:48:10,500 just made me feel so proud to be a journalist to proud to be on 2748 02:48:10,500 --> 02:48:14,130 the team like just proud of my colleagues, who are asking 2749 02:48:14,130 --> 02:48:17,130 questions like can we just hear like how many people are 2750 02:48:17,130 --> 02:48:19,260 unemployed right now in this country? Like what's the 2751 02:48:19,260 --> 02:48:22,650 baseline Mara Liasson asked that recently at a press conference, 2752 02:48:22,650 --> 02:48:24,720 like if you're saying you're going to add to them, just what 2753 02:48:24,720 --> 02:48:26,790 is the unemployment rate right now? 2754 02:48:27,390 --> 02:48:30,930 Now, this is interesting, because clearly very concerned 2755 02:48:30,930 --> 02:48:33,420 about this. Yeah. Well, the Trump administration is messing 2756 02:48:33,420 --> 02:48:36,870 it up. They're morons, they need to immediately explain how the 2757 02:48:36,870 --> 02:48:41,280 numbers are calculated, when the calculation changed, why the use 2758 02:48:41,280 --> 02:48:44,250 six numbers are have been eliminated from the calculation. 2759 02:48:44,400 --> 02:48:46,950 Why aren't they doing this? This is baffling to me. 2760 02:48:50,850 --> 02:48:55,530 You know, the guy who would have been the best president was Ross 2761 02:48:55,530 --> 02:48:59,940 Perot, Ross Perot and go on his little TV things that allowed 2762 02:48:59,940 --> 02:49:02,820 he's in he have a little chart in his hand, and a little 2763 02:49:02,850 --> 02:49:07,260 pointer hand drawn, what's going on? And he showed these numbers 2764 02:49:07,260 --> 02:49:09,360 and the point is, this is the end he said then does the 2765 02:49:09,360 --> 02:49:13,410 sucking sound and you know, of NAFTA, he hated that. And he had 2766 02:49:13,410 --> 02:49:16,140 these little charts and each show people always made a lot of 2767 02:49:16,140 --> 02:49:20,100 sense just to watch him explain the chart. Glenn Beck used to do 2768 02:49:20,100 --> 02:49:24,000 that on on Fox all the time. You have a chart all the he overdid 2769 02:49:24,000 --> 02:49:27,060 it. He had too many. Well, his charts always ended with Soros. 2770 02:49:27,060 --> 02:49:29,730 It got a little Yeah, he stopped doing that for some reason, but 2771 02:49:30,120 --> 02:49:34,320 His thing was a little too much. But perot was great at this. And 2772 02:49:34,320 --> 02:49:37,620 I've always wondered why these candidates don't do that more 2773 02:49:37,620 --> 02:49:40,800 often. They try to do it in the House and the Senate because 2774 02:49:40,800 --> 02:49:43,350 they have a guy there make signs that puts a sign up and 2775 02:49:43,350 --> 02:49:47,040 sometimes they show a graph. But it seems to me that that's the 2776 02:49:47,040 --> 02:49:49,320 way to go because you just can't talk to people that can't hear 2777 02:49:49,320 --> 02:49:53,910 you. But they always remember what a graph told them. Right? 2778 02:49:54,270 --> 02:49:59,670 Well, so apparently, they're going to do this. At least 2779 02:49:59,670 --> 02:50:02,310 that's what I I understand from what Ira Glass is saying here, 2780 02:50:02,370 --> 02:50:04,680 but they should I mean, you're right, someone needs to come out 2781 02:50:04,680 --> 02:50:07,290 there with a pointer, explain how it works. Explain how the 2782 02:50:07,290 --> 02:50:10,740 numbers are calculated. And you need to show exactly when that 2783 02:50:10,740 --> 02:50:13,380 change, which, from what I understand from what you said is 2784 02:50:13,410 --> 02:50:18,120 kind of when Obama came into office, and then the numbers 2785 02:50:18,120 --> 02:50:19,080 just when screwy. 2786 02:50:19,950 --> 02:50:23,160 Yeah, and when were they, but they look rosy. 2787 02:50:23,190 --> 02:50:26,460 But the thing that's so troubling to me is now, in this 2788 02:50:26,460 --> 02:50:30,660 one speech, the bastion of news of NPR Ira Glass, not only does 2789 02:50:30,660 --> 02:50:35,820 he have his facts wrong on the on the birther meme started in 2790 02:50:35,820 --> 02:50:41,580 the Hillary Clinton campaign during that fierce battle. But 2791 02:50:41,580 --> 02:50:45,540 he also doesn't understand or has not bothered to investigate 2792 02:50:46,110 --> 02:50:50,100 how the numbers work. And what the actual unemployment is 2793 02:50:50,100 --> 02:50:52,980 calculated on and what is not calculated on his people. Was it 2794 02:50:52,980 --> 02:50:55,110 three months now is after three months yeah, you don't have a 2795 02:50:55,110 --> 02:50:57,960 job if you are presumed to be a bum and you've given up 2796 02:50:58,619 --> 02:51:01,139 I think any well first of all, you can take yourself off of the 2797 02:51:01,139 --> 02:51:05,729 you don't look okay, for work, you gave up. Boom, you're now 2798 02:51:05,759 --> 02:51:09,389 doesn't count. So you're not unemployed. You're just I don't 2799 02:51:09,389 --> 02:51:11,399 know what you are. But you're zombie. 2800 02:51:11,460 --> 02:51:14,700 What is the what do you think the number is the actual 2801 02:51:14,700 --> 02:51:15,240 unemployment? 2802 02:51:15,930 --> 02:51:18,330 The number according to John Williams, a statistician out of 2803 02:51:18,330 --> 02:51:22,140 San Francisco just recently interviewed by Andrew Horowitz 2804 02:51:23,880 --> 02:51:29,040 the numbers around 23 to 24%. And we've been stable for the 2805 02:51:29,040 --> 02:51:31,410 last five or six years at that number two Horowitz 2806 02:51:31,410 --> 02:51:35,130 asked him about the heat. This guy's always this shadow stats 2807 02:51:35,130 --> 02:51:38,820 guy is always accused of massaging the numbers or doing 2808 02:51:38,820 --> 02:51:39,960 some trickery. Well, we 2809 02:51:39,960 --> 02:51:44,610 talked he talked about this, his answer. His answer was, I think 2810 02:51:44,610 --> 02:51:48,090 he's kind of massages the numbers. But he does it in a way 2811 02:51:48,090 --> 02:51:51,930 he claims that reflects the reality of the situation. He 2812 02:51:51,930 --> 02:51:54,570 says, he says you because you can't get some of these numbers 2813 02:51:54,570 --> 02:51:56,940 anymore. So you have to kind of you have to figure them out. And 2814 02:51:56,940 --> 02:51:59,640 but he does it. He claims he doesn't do reverse engineering. 2815 02:51:59,880 --> 02:52:03,060 He says his numbers reflect the actual situation when you go 2816 02:52:03,060 --> 02:52:05,340 look at the homeless. When you look at people begging for 2817 02:52:05,340 --> 02:52:08,610 money. When you look at these deals and can't match when you 2818 02:52:08,610 --> 02:52:11,580 look at people that can't get jobs in bitch and moan about it. 2819 02:52:11,880 --> 02:52:15,930 He says his numbers are on the mind. This is the numbers 23 23% 2820 02:52:16,380 --> 02:52:18,870 final clip from Ira Glass. Hold on to your keyboard. John, I 2821 02:52:18,870 --> 02:52:21,540 know you're sitting down but hold on to it. He is going to 2822 02:52:21,540 --> 02:52:24,360 tell us about the future of journalism. He sees a very rosy 2823 02:52:24,360 --> 02:52:29,550 future for journalism, extremely rosy. In fact, he says it's a 2824 02:52:29,550 --> 02:52:32,790 boon time for journalists, did you realize it's a boon time, 2825 02:52:33,030 --> 02:52:34,350 Boon time I tell you? 2826 02:52:35,640 --> 02:52:37,080 What you want to write for nothing? 2827 02:52:37,619 --> 02:52:41,399 Well, you're close. You're close to this conclusion. But yes, 2828 02:52:41,399 --> 02:52:45,479 there is a future of journalism and you will be surprised I'm 2829 02:52:45,480 --> 02:52:49,830 in the unusual position to be a part of journalism. That's going 2830 02:52:49,830 --> 02:52:53,160 through a crazy boom time where audience and revenues are 2831 02:52:53,160 --> 02:52:56,370 climbing up very, very quickly. And that's that's podcasting. 2832 02:52:57,120 --> 02:53:00,360 People around the world are consuming long form serious 2833 02:53:00,360 --> 02:53:02,610 journalism in podcast form, John, 2834 02:53:02,640 --> 02:53:05,340 the future of journalism is pod cast. 2835 02:53:07,620 --> 02:53:10,980 You know, this guy wants to be you. You see this with guys who 2836 02:53:10,980 --> 02:53:13,920 are taking a look around and say, you know, I'm gonna starve 2837 02:53:13,920 --> 02:53:17,160 to death if I stay in this business at this where I am now, 2838 02:53:17,520 --> 02:53:22,110 because the money has dried up. So they all think they can go 2839 02:53:22,110 --> 02:53:26,190 into podcasting and by saying that what he just said, by 2840 02:53:26,190 --> 02:53:30,090 saying that he hopes to God it's true. Oh, and he didn't stop 2841 02:53:30,090 --> 02:53:30,540 there. 2842 02:53:30,810 --> 02:53:33,660 13 million people downloaded every episode of cereal season 2843 02:53:33,660 --> 02:53:34,470 one it 2844 02:53:34,470 --> 02:53:38,910 is impossible to calculate downloads without having control 2845 02:53:38,910 --> 02:53:44,880 over the player. You This is just a guesstimate at best. 2846 02:53:45,120 --> 02:53:48,090 4 million people I think more downloaded every episode of NPRs 2847 02:53:48,090 --> 02:53:50,940 invisibility a 2.5 million download every episode of this. 2848 02:53:51,120 --> 02:53:53,460 Did you say NPRs? Embassy Leah? What was that? What was that 2849 02:53:53,460 --> 02:53:58,950 show? Footage? Show NPR is in Basilia 2850 02:53:58,980 --> 02:54:01,740 more downloaded every episode of NPR is invisibility Oh 2851 02:54:01,740 --> 02:54:04,530 invisible. Download every episode of This American Life. 2852 02:54:04,830 --> 02:54:07,830 And one of our producers that we chase I think these podcasts go 2853 02:54:07,830 --> 02:54:10,050 places that are really interesting one of our buddies 2854 02:54:10,050 --> 02:54:13,020 not listen to this. Listen to what he said just listen to the 2855 02:54:13,020 --> 02:54:13,590 words 2856 02:54:13,740 --> 02:54:14,730 at these podcasts. 2857 02:54:14,760 --> 02:54:17,880 These podcasts go places you never expect. They they travel 2858 02:54:17,880 --> 02:54:20,370 they get on planes trains, automobiles, they go places you 2859 02:54:20,370 --> 02:54:21,690 don't expect the interesting one 2860 02:54:21,690 --> 02:54:24,030 of repetition so a Chase was at the inaugural but one of the 2861 02:54:24,030 --> 02:54:27,660 inaugural bowls last week that the one for people who create 2862 02:54:27,690 --> 02:54:31,230 memes and troll on behalf of Donald Trump on social media. 2863 02:54:32,070 --> 02:54:36,510 This was the deplorable and she was very interested to learn how 2864 02:54:36,540 --> 02:54:39,150 many many fans we had their 2865 02:54:39,630 --> 02:54:45,810 see fans. Now you just showed your colors their fans teasing 2866 02:54:45,810 --> 02:54:48,630 me What's important is fans to the fans because they want to be 2867 02:54:48,630 --> 02:54:54,360 popular. Yeah, that's it John future podcast versus future of 2868 02:54:54,360 --> 02:54:58,830 journalism and we are leading the charge. We are We are the 2869 02:54:58,830 --> 02:54:59,970 future J nobodies 2870 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:03,660 following your lead, less than 10 minutes to go. 2871 02:55:04,860 --> 02:55:09,000 That's your 10 Minute Warning. I'm pushing my global warming 2872 02:55:09,000 --> 02:55:12,150 stuff to Thursday. It's that good. 2873 02:55:13,500 --> 02:55:16,890 All right, I have got a couple of things I can push, but I'm 2874 02:55:16,890 --> 02:55:20,310 going to want to get this out of the way. This is the report on 2875 02:55:20,310 --> 02:55:23,490 what's going on in California with Monsanto. And there's a 2876 02:55:23,490 --> 02:55:26,220 little kind of another one of these gotchas in there. I want 2877 02:55:26,220 --> 02:55:28,410 to talk to you about it. After the reports over 2878 02:55:28,470 --> 02:55:32,610 the weed killer roundup can be labeled with a cancer warning at 2879 02:55:32,610 --> 02:55:36,720 least in California. A judge made that ruling today against 2880 02:55:36,720 --> 02:55:42,240 the agriculture giant Monsanto. Here's Omar via francha. Now 2881 02:55:42,240 --> 02:55:43,080 round Roundup, 2882 02:55:43,110 --> 02:55:46,860 is one of the most popular weed killers on the market, used by 2883 02:55:46,860 --> 02:55:50,310 everyday gardeners and farmers because of its effectiveness, 2884 02:55:50,340 --> 02:55:53,700 Roundup, David and this is with the Texas a&m Agrilife 2885 02:55:53,700 --> 02:55:54,360 Extension. 2886 02:55:54,390 --> 02:55:57,990 It's cost effective and it is very effective as far as 2887 02:55:57,990 --> 02:55:59,910 controlling weeds. Roundup is 2888 02:55:59,910 --> 02:56:03,930 a commercially sold weed killer manufactured by Monsanto. The 2889 02:56:03,930 --> 02:56:07,590 herbicides main ingredient is glyphosate, a chemical that is 2890 02:56:07,590 --> 02:56:10,500 efficient at destroying various types of weeds, 2891 02:56:10,560 --> 02:56:13,320 they can spray the weeds and then plant right into where 2892 02:56:13,320 --> 02:56:15,270 they've sprayed. But the country's 2893 02:56:15,270 --> 02:56:18,570 largest agricultural state is considering the new warning 2894 02:56:18,570 --> 02:56:21,750 label on Roundup. California officials want to list 2895 02:56:21,780 --> 02:56:25,740 glyphosate as a chemical known to possibly cause cancer, based 2896 02:56:25,740 --> 02:56:29,610 on a 2015 decision by the World Health Organization, saying it 2897 02:56:29,610 --> 02:56:33,480 is probably carcinogenic to humans. Citing limited evidence. 2898 02:56:33,600 --> 02:56:37,440 Monsanto is suing California rejecting that their product 2899 02:56:37,440 --> 02:56:41,640 poses a health risk calling the proposal flawed and baseless and 2900 02:56:41,640 --> 02:56:44,910 that it violates the Constitution. Killing weeds is 2901 02:56:44,910 --> 02:56:49,980 big business. Last year, Monsanto reported $3.5 billion 2902 02:56:50,520 --> 02:56:55,200 in global sales of crop control products, which include Roundup, 2903 02:56:55,470 --> 02:56:58,560 and there's more at stake for Monsanto didn't just the weed 2904 02:56:58,560 --> 02:57:02,310 killer. Many of the company's genetically modified crops are 2905 02:57:02,310 --> 02:57:05,700 designed with an immunity to glyphosate that's becoming one 2906 02:57:05,700 --> 02:57:09,180 of the more widely used materials and on the planet. 2907 02:57:14,490 --> 02:57:18,090 Now, I'm not saying CBS especially the network is 2908 02:57:18,120 --> 02:57:24,030 unprofessional. Yeah, you are. But they have the others these 2909 02:57:24,030 --> 02:57:27,240 things NBC has a book that you can buy the occasion it shows up 2910 02:57:27,240 --> 02:57:30,480 on the market, it's called the NBC pronunciate to pronounce the 2911 02:57:30,480 --> 02:57:33,570 T or gives a T or something. And it has all the pronunciations of 2912 02:57:33,570 --> 02:57:35,910 all the words in the world and it just tells you how to 2913 02:57:35,910 --> 02:57:39,930 pronounce them. So you have a an your news organization at the 2914 02:57:39,930 --> 02:57:43,350 high level and local who cares but at the highest level they 2915 02:57:43,350 --> 02:57:45,870 pronounce all the words are the same. So you don't have one guy 2916 02:57:45,870 --> 02:57:49,800 saying Monsanto and the other guy saying Monsanto Monsanto 2917 02:57:49,830 --> 02:57:54,390 Monsanto know, Monsanto, Monsanto, Monsanto. I mean, come 2918 02:57:54,390 --> 02:57:58,350 on. Is this guy like work for the company? Does he know about 2919 02:57:58,350 --> 02:58:02,490 this unit Bucha pronounced the Monsanto one way way to be nuts 2920 02:58:02,490 --> 02:58:03,960 every time he said Monsanto 2921 02:58:03,990 --> 02:58:08,880 is our jingle or jingles wrong. It's wrong. Monsanto is wrong. 2922 02:58:08,910 --> 02:58:14,280 We gotta get a new jingle. Mon song Hall. Is a private funding 2923 02:58:14,340 --> 02:58:18,270 quite annoying, can imagine is also a pro Monsanto thing 2924 02:58:18,270 --> 02:58:20,730 because they were talking about Well, here's a report it was 2925 02:58:20,940 --> 02:58:23,460 dubious. They just say that. 2926 02:58:25,320 --> 02:58:27,990 It was good out of here. I want to play one funny clip from from 2927 02:58:27,990 --> 02:58:31,560 our new president. I don't think he meant it, but I thought it 2928 02:58:31,560 --> 02:58:32,520 was funny. We're gonna 2929 02:58:33,570 --> 02:58:36,870 look at what I've done recently. Ford's moving back in General 2930 02:58:36,870 --> 02:58:39,960 Motors is going to be spending massive amounts of money and 2931 02:58:39,960 --> 02:58:44,220 Fiat Chrysler, the head was a highly respected man, Sergio 2932 02:58:44,580 --> 02:58:47,370 flew all the way from Italy to have to go to the meeting two 2933 02:58:47,370 --> 02:58:49,770 days ago. They're going to spend a lot of money in the United 2934 02:58:49,770 --> 02:58:55,710 States Foxconn. 7 billion Foxconn Alibaba Alibaba, who's a 2935 02:58:55,710 --> 02:58:58,140 great guy by the way. Companies 2936 02:59:01,020 --> 02:59:06,420 Alibaba, Alibaba guy, he's great. Alibaba is a great way 2937 02:59:06,870 --> 02:59:11,610 to start the jingling. Zuckerberg douchebag he didn't 2938 02:59:11,610 --> 02:59:13,260 hear this one. No, I'm sure I didn't. 2939 02:59:13,290 --> 02:59:17,820 Hundreds of people in Hawaii say they'll protest against Facebook 2940 02:59:17,820 --> 02:59:22,050 CEO Mark Zuckerberg this weekend over his filing of lawsuits to 2941 02:59:22,050 --> 02:59:24,660 force hundreds of residents including Native families off 2942 02:59:24,660 --> 02:59:27,570 their land in order to make his Hawaiian beachfront property as 2943 02:59:27,570 --> 02:59:31,410 private as possible. Native Hawaiian Professor kibosh wrote 2944 02:59:31,410 --> 02:59:34,950 to the University of Hawaii said quote this is the face of Neo 2945 02:59:34,950 --> 02:59:39,330 colonialism unquote. Zuckerberg now says he's reconsidering the 2946 02:59:39,330 --> 02:59:40,170 lawsuits 2947 02:59:43,140 --> 02:59:50,280 Hold on a second. That's what we need now. All right. Is our game 2948 02:59:50,280 --> 02:59:51,870 I need to watch this. I'm happening today. 2949 02:59:52,199 --> 02:59:55,889 Well, today is the Pro Bowl which is an exhibition game that 2950 02:59:55,949 --> 02:59:59,969 takes place a week before the Super Bowl nowadays. And it is 2951 02:59:59,999 --> 03:00:03,119 So it's a it's weird because they have different rules and 2952 03:00:03,119 --> 03:00:06,059 nobody wants to hurt each other. And then there's the Miss 2953 03:00:06,059 --> 03:00:08,249 Universe thing which will take care of 2954 03:00:09,150 --> 03:00:11,790 looking forward to that. Always nice. 2955 03:00:11,820 --> 03:00:12,690 Always nice. 2956 03:00:13,470 --> 03:00:16,230 Alright everybody please remember us at devora.org/and a 2957 03:00:16,230 --> 03:00:20,820 particularly for a big episode 900 900 2958 03:00:22,140 --> 03:00:26,880 of the best podcast in this universe. Hey, is the Miss 2959 03:00:26,880 --> 03:00:29,070 Universe this universe or different universe? 2960 03:00:29,790 --> 03:00:31,410 It's this the best universe? 2961 03:00:31,530 --> 03:00:33,960 I think this universe will be in the alternate universe, don't 2962 03:00:33,960 --> 03:00:34,290 you think? 2963 03:00:35,280 --> 03:00:38,010 Well, oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely. Definitely. 2964 03:00:38,040 --> 03:00:38,760 Definitely. Definitely. 2965 03:00:39,180 --> 03:00:41,400 Coming to you from the crackpot condo here in the skyscraper 2966 03:00:41,400 --> 03:00:44,370 downtown Austin Tejas, we're in FEMA Region six in case you're 2967 03:00:44,370 --> 03:00:48,300 looking for it on a governmental map. until Thursday morning 2968 03:00:48,300 --> 03:00:49,860 everybody, my name is Adam curry. 2969 03:00:50,400 --> 03:00:53,460 I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where there's no maps of John C. 2970 03:00:53,460 --> 03:00:54,090 Dvorak. We will 2971 03:00:54,090 --> 03:01:00,060 return on Thursday right here on no agenda. Until then, adios 2972 03:01:00,060 --> 03:01:56,850 mofos I'm angry grades grades we cannot 2973 03:01:59,130 --> 03:02:18,690 we must love one another or die we must love one another died an 2974 03:02:18,690 --> 03:02:22,320 awful lot about blowing up the White House. 2975 03:02:23,550 --> 03:02:25,530 Alibaba, who's a great guy, but 2976 03:02:34,650 --> 03:02:37,470 you can't do it. You can fight facts, 2977 03:02:37,619 --> 03:02:38,819 I'm angry 2978 03:02:43,980 --> 03:02:44,880 cannot continue to hide 2979 03:02:46,680 --> 03:02:49,530 the happiness and joy of seeing an American walking through 2980 03:02:49,530 --> 03:02:54,630 their streets. But they express the question they said. Why is 2981 03:02:54,630 --> 03:02:57,900 it that the United States its allies and other countries are 2982 03:02:57,900 --> 03:03:00,240 providing support providing arms 2983 03:03:00,930 --> 03:03:04,320 to terrorists? I'm a white woman. I don't get it. I am 2984 03:03:04,320 --> 03:03:08,880 pleased and honored to scream. Listen to me. You don't get it 2985 03:03:09,300 --> 03:03:13,680 been torturing and killing the Syrian people, children, men, 2986 03:03:13,770 --> 03:03:15,990 women, people of all ages. 2987 03:03:16,110 --> 03:03:20,790 I am so excited that we're here. White woman I don't get it. I am 2988 03:03:20,820 --> 03:03:24,210 pleased and honored to be here today to have the conversation. 2989 03:03:24,330 --> 03:03:25,200 I am stage 2990 03:03:25,230 --> 03:03:30,240 on 911 not Syria. I didn't answer for them. But recently 2991 03:03:30,240 --> 03:03:32,610 the United States government denies providing any stuff 2992 03:03:32,640 --> 03:03:33,420 because that's 2993 03:03:33,420 --> 03:03:38,130 my job. My job and I am listening because that's my job. 2994 03:03:38,790 --> 03:04:05,040 Because that's my job my job my job my job my job you're about 2995 03:04:05,040 --> 03:04:10,050 the children oh my god 2996 03:04:14,820 --> 03:04:15,840 know people want to 2997 03:04:23,370 --> 03:04:38,010 hear hear? audios mofo? fora.org/in A