What car comes with a carburetor anymore?
Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday June 16 2016. And time once again for your gizmo
nation media assassination episode 834 This
is no agenda, suffering from
his llama homophobia overload and broadcasting live from the
Capitol the drum scars here in Austin Tejas team or region six
in the morning everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where we've got overcast and no
overload but we do have a lot of information to display on
Johnston with Greg Levin buzzkill
always so awesome thinking on your feet
ever be hard to display anything on the radio though but no we're
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anything slow news week man
I gotta tell you I
have something finally happened I mean we were we cut you know
they happen again on a show day. Yeah, of course actually, the
night be shown. It was still show day and this happens a lot
on show day.
I have to say I really appreciated our value for value
value model in the past four days. It made it allowed me and
I'm looking at your clips it allowed both of us to I just sat
in front of the television switching between
CBS one a bowl craft report.
It just continued and an eye for four days. I have not seen Tina
for four days. It's been just glued to all the channels trying
to deconstruct what is going on of course the same time we have
lots of information coming in from people who live there.
People have opinions do hundreds of tons of stuff
did Did Did Did Did did you shower
not every day
and certainly not this morning.
Where to start?
Well we go we let's start with some somatic stuff we should
discuss it the most the two of us since you were all over
Facebook apparently the bag
a little bit it was more I was more consuming all the news that
full time news channels which of which I have to say I thought
MSNBC does a very good job of these live events. You know
something on the on the scene on the spot because they hadn't in
one piece. Yeah, it will they have but they have the full NBC
News resources out there
a lot more than CNN. Oh heck you should be. There was much
better. Much better. You did that. Because I was Why was my
monitoring was the internet's YouTube's Yeah. CBS ABC,
democracy now and Deutsche Vela. Those were my main sources of my
clip fantastic so we because they're all you know once guy
said this and as long as and it's why it's so poorly done it
when you really look at it, you sit there like you did and I did
for the most part. When you sit there and watch this stuff go by
you listen to what he says DVRs are great because you can listen
to one news show that which is parallel to the other one right?
You listen to that was it that's not what the other guy said.
Well, that goes on and on. And so what we ended up with a kind
of I think we'll probably have a composite story. Yes, that will
be close to the truth. It's just as far as I'm concerned, it
stinks to high heaven from all sorts of
apps to things and we'll get to this later on. Yes, there's a
lot of things that smell really bad with this. But on the other
hand, I am convinced not having been there but you know having
done this for a while now and looking at different events and
how things take place now the coverage unfold people really
died that really did happen so you know all the I
believe there's a lot of dead people and I My thesis is that
the cops shot most of cops I'm
sure shot a lot but that was also something new we saw a lot
more blood on people we saw bullet holes you know some we
never saw a need to Sandy Hook bullet holes. And just look at
how the response was how it was all laid out. It wasn't in your
typical drill like fashion. In fact, I would like to just get
us underway with this because a lot of people were sending me
emails and saying oh yeah, look at this video they're walking
the wrong way. This is all fake this crisis actors only now
there was a hoax but I'll get to that later. Just want to say
here's the this was this was kind of telling and bizarre at
the same time. This is the think the chief doctor who did a press
release there in Orlando today the press conference I should
say.
Today, the doctors tending to those patients describe how they
were overwhelmed in the immediate aftermath of the
massacre.
This is not a drill. This is not a joke. We have 22 Oh, wow. Plus
gunshot wounds.
You know, what's interesting about that is and he'll continue
a little bit. It's so like, hey, we do this all the time with
drills we know a drills are sure we got drills, we have drills,
this is not a drill. Very interesting. He said that plus
gunshot wounds coming. I'm sorry.
I agree. That was interesting that he'd say that. It's like,
Hey, everybody, most of these things are bullcrap. Listen,
here, this is not a drill, it's not bull crap, we're actually
doing something, it can be
confirmed that in this clip, actually, today, the doctor is
tending to those patients describe how they were
overwhelmed in the immediate aftermath of the massacre.
This is not a drill, this is not a joke, we have 22 plus gunshot
wounds coming in, I was walking out of the hospital. And, and
walking out I saw team members walking into work, crying. I
just I just couldn't express how it's hard to describe how you
feel. But I know how they feel.
And I can tell you, they do a lot of drills and a lot of
practices to try and be prepared for this sort of thing. But
after hearing those real life scenarios, you can understand
why that's never going to be the same as what they experienced
here. Everybody seems to be on the drills. But this was not one
of them. And I think that's true. Yeah, I think that's,
that's true. So we can get past that. I have everything that was
sent to you saw some of the I've copied you on some but I'm sure
you block those people after a while. He's like, stop with your
green screen. Stop, stop. Stop this. That does happen. Sure.
Not this time. This is something completely different was not
controlled. And there's a lot of angles to this.
Well not controlled is it's controlled in his nature. I
mean, it was in one area. There was a wasn't getting that it
wasn't getting out of any sort of control. It wasn't spilling
out into the streets. It was very controlled. It's all within
the club.
Oh my. Okay, I'll take that. I'll take that as it was, but it
was not orchestrated. I don't think it was orchestrated. But I
think that this this guy, yeah, there was a lot going
on. Like I I'll say that. I'll say that. I'll agree that's not
wasn't orchestrated in any normal sense. I think it was. I
think there was some orchestration after the fact.
Well, above their head was what they said it
had to be that was that was the most interesting thing. When
when this started, immediately was no guns, guns, guns,
homophobia, guns, guns, guns, homophobia, a little bit of
maybe terrorism kind of inspired. We're not quite sure.
In fact, maybe a good backgrounder would just be to
play to small bits from Comey.
Yeah, cuz i By the way, now, before you play call me, I don't
know if you're gonna play the haystack clip.
There's, yeah, I
have to you don't have the haystack clip.
Of course I have. Of course I have the haystack. Okay, the
haystack. I didn't want to start with that.
I want to preface Okay, I just want to preface any Comey clips.
Now because we had Muller, who was very similar. They have a
writer in the FBI. His offices absolutely dream up Diddy's for
these guys to say, Okay, I'm not totally convinced of it,
especially that when the haystack clip came up, there's
no way I don't know anyone, any bureaucrat or banker, like Comey
would come up with this line. It was professionally written. But
go ahead.
Well, you know what, then I'll do it in reverse order. I'll
start with the hate with the haystack clip. And then if we
want to, we can go back to other things. Because Absolutely, not
only was it written, there was some huge mistakes in it. There
were some very interesting things I didn't hear the first
three times I listened to it. And then well, let's let's we
will continue to look forward in this investigation and backward,
we will leave no stone unturned. And we will work all day and all
night to understand the path to that terrible night. We're also
going to look hard at our own work to see whether there is
something we should have done differently. So far, the honest
answer is I don't think so.
Okay, now that is one of the best performances I've ever
heard that he didn't say, did we do the best we could? And now he
he drew it out into this crazy so far, the honest truth is? I
don't think so. Wow, whether
there is something we should have done differently. So far,
the honest answer is I don't think so. I don't see anything
in reviewing our work that our agents should have done
differently, but we'll look at it in an open honest and open
and honest way and be transparent about it. Sure. Our
work is very challenging. We are looking for needles in a
nationwide haystack. But we're also called upon to figure out
which pieces of hay might someday become needles.
Now this was a good one. This was really good and that got
propagated, but there's some other things going on here.
That is hard work. If we can find a way to do that better. We
will do We will also do our best to be transparent about what we
find going forward, consistent with our need to do an
investigation in a good way. But we will tell you as much as we
possibly can. And let me close by saying something I've said
before, okay, we know that this killing is upsetting to all
Americans, we hope that our fellow Americans will not let
fear become disabling because that is what the savages want.
We hope that instead, you will channel this sense of anxiety
into something more positive, which is an awareness of your
surroundings, and the seeking of opportunities to help your
fellow Americans, as we saw with the tremendous lines of people
giving blood in Orlando. If you channel that anxiety into
awareness, you can live your life and allow those of us who
are paid to investigate and to stop terrorists to do that work,
while you live the full life that this great country offers
you. If you see something, tell us every single How could he
fuck it up?
How could he find out what this is? And then I realize what's
going on? Because he keeps saying, Hey, if you see
something got to tell somebody, which of course the slogan is,
if you see something, say something which has not worked,
because they don't have a jingle. But that is
it, which we put in play. I don't know for how many years
but but we're making
a mistake, too. He's talking to Muslims. He's saying, Hey, if
you see something within your Muslim community, then if you
see something, you have to say something, but that slogan by
itself and even our jiggles. It should be if you've got a new
jingle, we need to need to put it to the ISIS music otherwise
little bit they don't understand.
You, you may have a point. Yes,
this is bad marketing. It's like not knowing your audience. Or
what you're
saying. If you're going to make like a jig, you should do it
ethically, because we know this diversity thing isn't working
out in terms of the melting pot. So if you're going to do
something, for example, to the Indians, you would do it in
Bollywood. Yes. You got to do.
Exactly, exactly. That's how it should be. If it's, if it's for
Holland, when you see something you call somebody. Yeah. I mean,
that's how it would go. Now, I listened to the whole code. I'm
glad I'm using you. I listened to the whole Comey press
conference. And I took out a couple minutes here, which
there's some very interesting things he's saying here. And
this shows that there's a lot more going on with not just the
FBI, but also CIA.
Again, it's all let a good crisis go to waste was the theme
of these guys. No
doubt about it.
Again, it's early. We're working hard to understand the killer,
and his motives and his sources of inspiration.
Now he's gonna give us a bit of a timeline, but I have some
timeline issue or issues with his timeline.
All the timelines I've seen have been crap.
Yeah, are highly confident that this killer was radicalized, and
at least in some part through the internet, oh, so that's what
we've been doing. Now, let me tell you what I can about the
FBI is prior contact with the killer. We first became aware of
him in May of 2013. He was working as a contract security
guard at a local courthouse, and he made some statements that
were inflammatory and contradictory. That concerned
his co workers about terrorism. First, he claimed family
connections to al Qaeda. He also said that he was a member of
Hezbollah, which is a Shia terrorist organization that is a
bitter enemy of the so called Islamic State ISIL. He said he
hoped that law enforcement would raid his apartment and assault
his wife and child so that he could martyr himself. When this
was reported to us, the FBI is Miami office opened a
preliminary investigation. And over the next 10 months, we
attempted to determine whether he was possibly a terrorist.
Now listen to what they did. This is what I didn't really
hear the first time,
something we do in hundreds and hundreds of cases. All across
the country. Yes,
we know this, because we have reviewed not hundreds but we've
reviewed many of the complaints against the so called homegrown
or radicalized terrorists in America. The FBI spends months
with them sometimes years radicalizes them buys weapons,
explosive phony baloney stuff. What do I have that guy had did
my model airplanes, he was going to bomb the the Capitol
building. I mean, this is what the FBI does, and then listen.
Our investigation involves introducing confidential sources
to him.
That's exactly what they do confidential sources
You're gonna play something that just, I'm gonna give people a
foreboding here, little heads up. What you're suggesting is
that the FBI did what they always do because we've talked
about this over and over again forever and we've seen evidence
of it and there's documentation for it. They tried to radicalize
him. Absolutely.
This is what they do. And you know this it's it's interesting
because another one of the crisis actor memes this guy is
actually this Omar Mateen he shows up in the in a documentary
and he's uh, this is back when we had the Gulf oil crisis I
don't have I didn't pull the clip but that you can look at
the trailer some piece from the from the documentary in the show
notes. And he's a security guard and this undercover video and
they roll up the guys he's like an American. He's totally like
any sad actually, he was a bull crap job. No one's really, you
know, guy. All I'm doing here is making sure these guys can go in
and make work that have more money to clean up the beaches
from the BP oil spill. I mean, he seemed like a not an actor's
what he didn't seem like that's for
sure. recording conversations with Him, following Him,
reviewing transactional records from his communications, and
searching all government holdings for any possible
connections any possible derogatory information. We then
interviewed him twice. He admitted making the statements
that his co workers reported, but explain that he did it in
anger, because he thought his co workers were discriminating
against him and teasing him because he was Muslim. After 10
months of investigation, we closed the preliminary
investigation. Two months later, in July of 2014, the killer's
name surfaced again in an indirect way. Our Miami office
was investigating the Florida man who had blown himself up for
the Nusra Front in Syria. Again, the Mr. Front being an al Qaeda
group in conflict with ISIL. And we learned from the
investigation that the killer knew him casually from attending
the same mosque in that area of Florida.
Now, here's where I have a problem. This guy changed his
name Mateen. But first, he had his father's name Siddiqui at
the city that when the FBI was handling this suicide bomber,
looking at their at their their own documentation. They had an
insider, an informant whose name was Siddiqui, just not not
spelled exactly the way his father's name is spelled, but
in, in Afghanistan, they are interchangeable. So what's with
the I?
In fact, one time I had a lunch with a guy, a software
developer, who also worked for one of the agencies, and their
big program was the synonyms for anybody's name. They're just
like, yeah, in some cases doesn't. So we can't
even figure out how to spell Gadhafi and the guy's been dead
for seven years. Five years, or bin Laden? Exactly. Is
it Osama Osama bin Laden? Is it?
Honestly, we don't even know if it's ISIS ISIL is or dash? I
mean, these are these are huge issues. We have been a naming
these things.
Issues in the Middle East. No, true.
So there is a real possibility that this guy at that point was
working with the FBI, either, you know, reporting on him on
the on the on the bomber, but he was definitely involved with the
same mosque, which, of course, right after the bombing, it was
one of the mosques that the State Department decided to
protect, protect, so there could be no more, you know, so they
wouldn't be attacked. Is that a place of worship, but there's
some issues there as well.
But our investigation turned up no ties of any consequence
between the two of them
of any consequence. Yeah, but he wasn't informed he was probably
spying on him. In
the course of that investigation. One witness told
us, when asked Do you know anybody else who might be
radicalizing that he had once been concerned about the killer,
because the killer had mentioned a Locky videos. But the the
witness had concluded that he later got married and had a
child and got a job as a security guard. And so he was no
longer concerned about him. Our investigation, again, turned and
interviewed the killer to find out whether he had any
significant contacts with the suicide bomber for Al Nusrah
determined that he did not and then the inquiry continued
focusing on the suicide bomber with no further focus on the
Orlando killer. Right.
So without a doubt the F whether they did on purpose, whether
they're covering up without a doubt, they messed up. Now, I
can take this right now I can take this down the FBI versus
CIA route, which I think is very interesting or would you like to
go somewhere else because I'm kind of kind of ready to try
that.
Well, if you will Want to do that? I mean, my I, my material
is mostly about deconstructing the event and what actually
happened and who got killed by whom and the response to it.
Okay, why don't we Why don't we do that? Then I want to do that.
Okay, I, I liked the idea of doing the other thing. But let
me take a look at what we have here for, for background clips.
Now, let's start with Well, let's start analyzing this guy
with a note that was written that went around the internet
and see if I have this thing. This was this showed up on us
uncut, and which is a piece of crap. But this is I saw, I think
I saw this Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna read it because this apparently
got onto Facebook, and it got all over the place. And people
are, you know, I got sent to me a couple of times, and it's from
this guy, che band is Tuca. Supposedly, I don't know who
this guy is. And this whole thing looks like a complete, you
know, those internet things you get, like an email, oh, read
this. And then it's all in super big type. Yeah. And it goes all
the way down bitching and moaning about something rather
than pass it on to three people. It's a form. By the way, anyone
who sends me one of those, they get
blocked for Life for life ever.
So this guy, suppose he sent us around, he says a 29 year old
who carried out the mess. Or Linda left with 49 people dead
and 53, wounded, and shredded, shredded the myth that he was an
Afghan terrorist had no ties to ISIS. So and I want to go bust
that out too, because I have a couple of great clips on the
ISIS connection. So after a couple of days, this is the guys
writing that went all over the place. I'm going to read part of
it till I get bored. So after a couple of days of Reports and
Testimonies, we all know the following about the Orlando
shooter. And by the way, this guy this report, this is the
worst. He was a child of immigrants born and raised in
the United States. He pledged allegiance to Hezbollah, al
Qaeda and ISIS three organizations. This is from the
Comey report, that are de facto at war with each other showing
us he was ignorant about all three, let alone the politics in
the Middle East in general. He knew practically nothing about
Islam and according to his wife, father and community, he was not
religious in the slightest. This isn't true. He went to that
mosque and the Imam said he used to show up and he would sit
there and and leave. He never He didn't mix. Right. That's what
the Imam said yes. And it's what he verbally said, I don't have a
clip, but I just saw him say it. He's telling me the guy goes on
his struggle with his toxic masculinity, a new code word
that's come out. Toxic masculinity. This is a anti
male. Oh, good work. Oh, yeah. He had an alcohol problem and
beat up his wife for which he was never charged. His first
wife, maybe, you know, he was racist towards blacks. He told
the blacks that they could leave that and there's not only that,
that's what we've heard. That's, that's what we've heard. No, I
have two clips from guys who said that one guy actually did
leave. Now he could be a liar. And they could be part of a
staged event. But they were you're going in the wrong
direction in the analysis. I believe. He led through whatever
blacks you said anybody here black and it's happened in two
instances. And I have clips from one of the instances All right,
but so he was racist towards blacks, Latinos. By the way, as
you know, I have two people that died, were Puerto Rican and
other minorities in the shooting killed predominantly queer
people of color. Despite his own, it's he's in Florida,
you're going if you're going to be shooting randomly in places
you're going to that's what's going to happen. Despite his own
alleged alleged queer inclination. He was a homophobe.
In a country where still one in five LGBTQ people are victims of
hate crimes. And there are more than 100 Anti LGBTQ bills from
anti gay marriage to bathroom bills pending in dozens of
states. So this guy, this is his analysis, he idolized the NYPD
is one of the country's most well known and cherished
institutions that is an army bigger than ISIS is known to it.
I don't know about that is known to indiscriminately and
disproportionately spy on Muslims in which engages in
systematic violence Okay, on and on. He beat juveniles in
detention centers to over the head for a living as he worked
for and got his training from the private security for G four
s. Another interesting coincidence, G four s had
recently purchased the security forum firm that that was doing
the security for the club. g4 is a huge operations the biggest
security firm in the world.
Yeah, they did the they did the Olympics in London poorly.
Yes, they're very it's not Yeah, it's too big. They have over
160,000 I think people working for him and they're based in
London. Anyway, which is not only one of the foremost
stakeholders in the prison industrial complex, but also
invested in mass deportations as it runs. It runs immigration
detention centers and participates in the occupation
of Palestine. Training out They're mass killers in Israel
to target and imprison Palestinians. This is very
sketchy but the one thing I do know is that DJI for it as was
involved, but not in deportation in the United States. They were
running buses of a bunch of lot of these immigrants that were
that were kind of positioned along the border, they couldn't
get out of Texas and places like that, they would run them up and
drop them off in places like Nebraska, South Dakota, and
that's a G four s operation. So this is completely bullcrap.
Anyway, staged a mass shooting in a country that has seen 1000
mass shootings in the last 1200 days. Now we're getting back to
where we are now who see that this document that's floating
around Facebook is a piece of propaganda. This is the kind of
propaganda that you know, this is anti gun propaganda right
here. So basically, he was in this is all over the Facebook.
So basically, it goes on, he was ignorant, self inflicted racist,
sexist homophobe had a sick admiration for authority and was
obsessed with guns and violence, eventually acting upon all of
that. Just a horrible male is what he is. Sorry, folks, it
ends Sorry, folks, but your suppose it Islamic radical
terrorist from Afghanistan is an American as apple pie, made with
home grown apples and baked in an American made oven?
Who owns this uncut outfit? Because that is some that's some
good propaganda right there.
Yeah, it's a piece of pride, it's a piece of shit from the
get go. And I want to bring a one or two interesting facts
into this thing. Let's start with the ice. That thing has
always got my attention the most was this is ISIS connection. And
I want to either decide you can decide if I should just blow
that out of the water as fast as I can go ahead
because the things I focused on I knew you would do this is I
have the FBI ca part. And I have really this guy's background
regarding homosexuality, homophobia, etc, etc. So
everything else I can support you but I'd say go
Alright, let me go with let me if I see the problem is of
course I have so many clips. I have the ice in
the meantime, a little entre mon This is local to the Orlando
area on television project on security
and terrorism. Collected 1000s of pages of data. That's right.
Loan law. Yeah. Yeah, she said Wolf.
Wolf. The orange juice can again
now was sent to me I didn't capture that myself. Yeah, we
have. We have an intelligence network here. They're not all
you know, high fidelity. We do our best here.
Okay, let's go that let's start by running the long clip. This
is the first report with David Muir. ABC first report is a
little long, you can interrupt it as it goes along as I look
for the other stuff.
It is Latin Night at the pulse a gay nightclub in downtown
Orlando, packed with 320 people at this video of people dancing
taken just last night. And then a 2:02am bartenders announcing
last call.
I just need to say one thing about the 2020 2am bartenders
last call. Because this we didn't we kind of skipped over
that with Komiks thing. But the timeline. Has his wife dropping
him off at the club at midnight. Yeah. Then according to the Los
Angeles Times, they interviewed one of the one of the club goers
who got away because he said he was leaving the club around 1am
and saw Mateen coming his way now they had spoken to each
other they had chatted previously on Grindr, or
whatever app or website and they acknowledged he said I said hey,
he said Hey, so he was going into the club. Well, that guy
was coming by the end of the soaker. The guy who got away was
leaving the club at one and this guy was going in at one but he
had already been in in he was now coming out. So he was in I
think something happened he left at 1am and came back at 2am then
started shooting the place up. I have not seen anyone of course,
if there was an altercation if there was something that was
provoked or provocative, then that person or persons probably
dead. But something happens so murder, something happened.
Yeah. We don't know. It's a good theory.
I like it. And suddenly the gunfire
starts smelling the ammunition in the air. Like it smelled like
fire was your instinct to hit the ground. I just wanted to get
as close to the floor as I could and try to crawl to safety
as that gunfire
erupted. You could hear it from the outside of you
complaining about my orange cam but the sock you had over the
mic was just as bad
just was taken from the net oh my god barrel shooting back and
forth
our officer. Now is there anything in here that's that's
gonna
you can stop right there I want to since we mentioned the guns
the guns shooting really began in earnest and fire at 5am Yeah,
that's when the SWAT came in. The SWAT guys came in. And
apparently there were a number of people that said that they
were playing dead for up to three hours. One guy says I was
cowering in the bathroom for three hours. Yeah. Now they had
busted into the, into the place with the armored vehicle. And
although when they show it, there's four or five holes in
the side of the building. And they said they couldn't blow a
hole in the parameter, they end up in where this busted where
the hole is, seems higher than the bumper of the vehicle if
there's something fishy about the holes. And in fact, there's
something fishy about the end of the story, which I also have a
clip for. So let's start with but let's get this ice thing out
of the way once and for all. Let's have the three clips,
three short clips, starting with an is called release the tapes
stops. This is what triggered this whole thing. This is
released the tapes. One the intro, according to sources
familiar with the FBI investigation. Yet as more
information comes out about the night of the shooting, we're
left with even more questions. There are also now more
questions than answers tonight as to why the Orlando Police
Department is refusing to release a 911 call or
transcripts from the shooting. And we have an update on what
may have been a foiled plot to attack the LA gay pride parade
as well. Now the gay pride parade thing is a distraction
from the story itself. And
also, that was just a kid who was gay. He was going to the
parade he had he had some shit in his truck he shouldn't have
because he was in you know, he'd already violated some weapons
charge. But everything I've heard from, from West Hollywood
from intelligence sources there that that was indeed a
distraction. The kid was going to attend the parade.
Well, it was a pretty good distraction. But would this
distracting from in this case is the why aren't they releasing
the tapes? And from our experience over the years is
this is a crucial piece of information. Yes. And even when
tapes are releasing on here, they don't want out. So they're
in the process right now of editing thing. They're going to
make an phony tape. Who knows. But here's where I get. Here's
the interesting clue to this. There was a little girl that was
this cute little black woman who was in the bathroom at the time.
And she witnessed a whole bunch of stuff including the end of
the story. The guy getting killed. And this is part two of
this. This is the way it was presented to us on ABC.
And I can just see him shooting everyone.
20 year old patients Carter, a college student and aspiring
singer shot and clinging to life in that bathroom tonight
struggling the guilt of being alive. It's heavy patients
listening as Mateen calls 911 pledging allegiance to ISIS and
watching him struggle his gun jamming
he was like damn, I could Jan to so with my face under the stall
looking I could see him put down
and down. Why was that gun? Okay, so what did we learn in
this clip from ABC?
She heard him call 911 pledging allegiance to ISIS. Yeah. And
his gun was jammed.
Well that too. Are you think somebody jumped them at that
point but no. Okay, well curiously, Democracy Now
happened to have a longer clip a real clip of this woman. And she
now you tell me where she talks about the ISIS thing. This is
clip three
nation has begun to emerge about the shooting at the Pulse
nightclub as survivors of the attack tell their stories.
Patients Carter was shot in both legs but survived after being
trapped in a bathroom with the shooter Omar Mateen. She says
she heard my team call 911 to say he was carrying out the
massacre because he wanted the United States to stop bombing
his country. My son was born in the United States. His parents
are from Afghanistan. Carter gave her account on Tuesday.
And and after that, he even spoke to us directly in the
bathroom. He said Are there any black people in here? I was too
afraid to answer. But there was an African American male in this
stall with most of my body was majority my body was had
answered. And he said yes, there are about six or seven of us.
And the government responded back to him saying that, you
know, I don't have a problem with black people. This is about
my country. You guys suffered enough. And he just he made a
statement saying that it wasn't about black people. He this
isn't the reason why he was doing this. But through the
conversation with Now one, he said that the reason why he was
doing this is because he wanted America to stop bombing his
country. Mm hmm.
That's a little different. Yeah. Well, she had time to think
about it or time to be debriefed, perhaps.
No, they don't want her saying this. That's why it was on
Democracy Now. And it wasn't on the network is they never played
any of this clip on the network's the guy who overrode
what she said they didn't have her. You're right. You're right
is part of her poem. And he says she, she heard him call 911 and
pledges allegiance to ISIS.
It was also early
narrative they want they don't want her saying right
earlier. Yeah. Well, early on the narrative first, was it was
racial because it was Latin night, then it was homophobic.
Yeah, so there was a lot of things they did not want. They
did not want the homophobic mean meme in there. If he himself was
perhaps gay, we'll get to that later.
I thought, Well, I would say they'd wanted to homophobic
thing in there. But unfortunately, you couldn't get
the gape part of him out of this narrative. Okay, so they
switched it or did something and push this ice is this nonsense.
And the reason that they don't want the tapes release is
because what the little girl said about what he was buzzing
you know, bitching about they have to
edit out the they have to edit out the black people can go
part,
or whatever. He said, Well, I was about that. He said, she
says very specifically, when you call 911. She he says, this is a
this is about Afghanistan about bombing, right? And if that's
the case, it blows up everything. It blows up the gay
thing, it blows up the ISIS thing. It just some guy. Upset
guy. Now your theory, of course, is that he's pissed at somebody
to show up? Well,
you know, can I take a train ticket from here? We'll come
back to the background. Okay. This is what I saw by saw this
change very, very quickly. Of course, we had the president
come out and he said, Hey, this was an act of terror, but we
probably should get guns off the street. So the whole guns thing
was good to go. They're always ready for that doesn't but
they've got this stacks of paper. They've got press
release, everything is always ready for any kind of mass
shooting. But what they were not prepared for. Was for what
happened now. I am no fan of Don Lemon.
No fan. But
a couple things happened. And this was late on late last
night. And was it Yeah, or the night before? I'm sorry. And I'm
watching Don Lemon show. And he has the the ex wife who has done
I think two interviews one was with lemon. The other one
somebody I haven't seen this.
She's the other one. It was on either ABC or CBS. I think it
was ABC
right? Well, she's vanished. Now. She's gone. But here was
the problem. So you have Don Lemon, have and of course, he's
a minority. He's gay. He's you know, he's very opinionated. And
at this point, we're looking at Oh, man, this is this is ISIS.
This is terrorism, the hate gays and be going and killing us. Of
course, Don's very personally involved. And then he gets his
ex wife on the phone. He has been on the phone for 20.
Actually, not the phone. But the on camera, I have no idea where
that was done. She may be completely fake, for all I know.
But here's the things that she said I had to tighten this up.
Because there were lots of pauses. And I only got a couple
of minutes that were worthwhile. But I think it's the crux of how
the message went the wrong way
is looking into reports today that Omer may have reached out
to men who attended the Pulse nightclub on on the gay dating
site, or some gay dating sites. There's been a great deal of
discussion on CNN and other places about Omar's real
motivation and what that was, what do you think it was,
you know, a lot of the questions that I had, back when I was with
him, when we're together, and I was getting abused, not able to
understand why he was treating you this way, and why he was
behaving this way. They are somewhat being answered by
everything that's been uncovered, because she's
now finding out that he was gay so far,
because it to me personally, with everything that I went
through and everything that I saw and experienced daily, it
makes sense, because he did have a different side of him that he
could not open up to his father about the fact that he liked to
go to nightclubs, the fact that he loves to drink. These are not
things that were welcomed in his family structure.
Okay, so this is really important that she say, look,
the things that he was into was against the family structure.
His father was probably a very typical relationship in this
case. And I'll just say that in Afghanistan, there is a long
held cultural tradition of the dancing boys or Afghanistan, the
what do you call them the Bacha Bazi boys where they dress
910 11 year old boys up as girls and make him dance sexually for
a roomful of men. This this is really true you can look it up
this
is not a lot of pedophilia. Yes, it's part of the culture and
when you
if you went through that, but it wasn't in Afghanistan, but
doesn't mean his father wasn't still a part of that. In fact,
we know nothing about this guy other than photos with senators
congressmen at the State Department. His little YouTube
video was sponsored by Voice of America for for the Middle East.
I mean, there's a lot of things wrong with this guy and not a
single person who said, what do you actually do for a living?
Where do you get your money for this nice living room? We keep
seeing you. So anyway, Father, not going to have any of this
drinking, partying and anything else?
And especially any indication of homosexuality.
So do you think that he had gay tendencies?
By the way for a gay man to ask that in that manner is pretty
despicable? Okay, 10 What are you are you what are you not gay
lemon butter, you turn into a dick all of a
sudden, actually, I think this this interview sounds as though
it came after the other interview that I think it was
ABC who did and they just point blank asked her. What's your
husband? Do you think your husband was gay? Which is
similar to this? And she and then they did a voiceover saying
she took a long pause and I think yeah, probably listen to
do you think
that he had gay tendencies tendencies?
You know, I
What the hell was a tendency? bit lemon, just just want to
bookmark the hem saying that, I'd like to understand what a
gay tendency is. Where do I classify that on my Omni gender
status?
You know, I am not going to lie. I definitely questioned it in my
own head when I was with him. And wondered T is because he
would do a lot of things, little things, you know, but that would
definitely make any woman question if he was
this. This definitely came after the other interview where she
started to think about it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This show this
is the this CNN comes in late into the game, but it's about to
go off the rails, though. And she's good. Yeah. Because she's
obviously been mulling this over. Oh, yeah. Like,
you know, it was I can't really explain it because it was the
way that he would behave that you know, normal, straight men
wouldn't. And he was very, he loves to look at himself. He
loves to take pictures of himself. Wow, talk.
Talk about stereotyping. Yeah, to too many pictures. Too many
selfies, you must be have gay tendencies.
Some straight men do too. But to a certain extent,
did he when you said he liked to go out to clubs that did that
include gay clubs.
He had confessed to me that he had a past that involved a lot
of nightlife and dancing and drinking. And he did not as from
what I remember, use the words gay nightclub. But you know, I
don't know. What do
you mean? Are you are you hedging? There? You don't know.
Have you hedging something you're not saying he? No, he
never. I don't write
a terrible interviewer.
I cut all the stupid shit out even ever. I
remember him saying that I used to go to nightclubs. But he
definitely used to have a nightlife he definitely was very
much in that club scene. And using you know, drinking using
steroids and all this stuff, that
that's another that's another red flag going in nightclubs
using steroids. You know,
a lot of American nice young people go through so I didn't
make at that time.
Yeah, everybody I know they go to a club and then they use a
bunch of steroid. They're very common and
then take selfies. I
thought it was gay clubs,
which by the way blemish should be saying he should at least
it's somewhere say, you know, this is not we're not trying to
stereotype gays but holy crap, is he letting it go is a
disgrace to the LGBT community. His father,
according to you, or someone may have maybe it's your current
husband said that his father would make comments about his
sexuality around you. What did he say?
He? I remember one occasion when we were in the living room, and
I wasn't really listening too much. I know him and his father
were talking but I definitely heard his father say and call
him a Cooney, which in Farsi Minh means gay.
Oh, no, we learned something new Cooney, so he's being abused by
his father verbally and probably in other words,
and I didn't really pay attention to it at that time,
because I don't know maybe he was joking. But Omar laughed
about it.
Did his father or the family did they exhibit any homophobic
behavior in your estimation?
Now this is where lemon screws it up. because he's now no
longer thinking of the company in mind, though the narrative or
whatever that was on the memo. Now he's like, Hey, wait a
minute, this guy hates me he hates gays do they say
things that were homophobic?
Well, they didn't have to because you know, everything in
their family structure is about perfection in the Islam
religion, homosexuality is not that tolerated. And especially
when somebody's a political figure as prominent as father
was, it is especially
Notice how she says as father was, this is more evidence of a
very classical Islamic family structure, not his funnel as
father as father. That's how she has to say, as far this is, this
is this is disturbing to listen to as
prominent as father was, it is especially it really looked down
upon and disgraced and put shame the entire family and just
knowing that one Oh, no family is homosexual.
Now, this is Wait a minute, wait a minute, now we have an
American Muslim. In the end, we have his ex wife saying that,
you know, this is what I this is Muslim culture. This is this is
what it is, particularly in this family have been. It's looked
down upon and it's not okay. You can't talk about it.
I need to jump to a clip then. Oh,
can I get 40 seconds left on this one?
I just got good stuff go. It's always good.
So it's definitely not welcome. And it, you know, they
definitely expressed her intolerance and disagreed with
it. With that way of life.
We talk we've been speaking a lot on this show about
homophobia and in the Muslim community, what are your
thoughts on that?
You know, I will not lie and say that there's a there's no
intolerance, because there is doubles down and there's very
low tolerance to homosexuality when they Islam religion. And I
think that with this happening, it's time to reflect and to
change some things.
Okay, now, your clip is important, but I just need to
flow through these couple of things. Because this is what
happened in real time, of course, edited down. So after
this interview, then lemon go straight to two other guys do O
box on the left hand side, we have an imam from Florida, I'm
not sure which mosque is from. And we have a professor, Muslim
professor who's gay, who left who was born Afghanistan, left
Afghanistan, and then lemon. So now we have the starting, wait a
minute. So we have this view. It's not just this guy was
homophobic, but it appears that there's some homophobia going on
in Islam and not just overseas, but in families here in the
United States with people who were born here. So now he talked
to the Imam, a guy in America. He's in a mom's been he preaches
in a mosque. And here's his little bit,
Iman, you first explain what it's like to be openly gay and
openly gay Muslim? Well,
I can't give you the definitive thing for everybody. But being a
Muslim, and identifying with being a religious Muslim, than
being gay is supposed to be antithetical to the faith. And
so what happens quite often is that when one is in a
congregation situation, you could feel very sequestered. If
you're if your sexuality is not identified, you sort of mail in
and you never really express yourself fully. However, if you
are identifiable, in terms of maybe more feminine, nice, by
the way, how the E mom defines gay is a feminine, crazy fiable
in terms of maybe more feminine look in your local things this
nature, then there are other forms of sequestering and
shaming that may take place as well. Okay, so do we have the
thank you Imam, we're not going to talk to you too long. Let's
go over to the gay professor. Let's talk to him about some
Yes, so
actually, I was born in Afghanistan 1979. But I returned
after 32 years in exile in 2012, to be a professor of political
science at the American University of Afghanistan. And
what happened was, I started, you know, facing persecution,
people started spreading rumors, passing petitions telling the
government that I'm gay, and that basically, I'm mobilizing a
gay movement and that I should be, you know, I should be I
should be forced out of the country or if I continue to stay
that I should be criminalized, even though I'm a US citizen,
they wanted to try me as an African national, and I could
have possibly, you know, been received a life sentence or
death penalty, even considering the fact that Afghanistan is
under US occupation and has to abide by international norms,
but it's still the Constitution is derived by by Divine Law and
the country. The country is under Sharia law. Ah 99% of the
population favorite Sharia law. According to 2013 Pew Research
study, that was the same year that I came out in August 2013.
So when I came out, you can just imagine, this is the most
hostile, homophobic country on the planet, because under Sharia
law, it means gays must be killed. There is no room for
discussion. In the United States, we had this discussion
through interfaith dialogue, LGBT Americans were able to
mobilize and win the hearts and minds of people through you
know, teaching them that this is the teaching them but the
science of games that were like this, we cannot change the
science of games, but it gets better. We have gay context of a
secular constitution and international human rights
conventions. And we're in Afghanistan, across the Muslim
world that does not exist. How can you have an interfaith
dialogue when this the dominant state religion beheads you,
hangs you or throws you off of buildings? So let me ask you
this.
Because it's not like that gay people don't exist in
Afghanistan.
LeMans so trying to accomplish he's freaking out right now.
There's someone talking him in his ear because now he's gone on
for 45 minutes with the ex wife with the E mom now this guy and
now the message is not only is Islam against home of
homosexuality, but there's large homophobia in the United States
with American born Muslim, this cannot be the message this is
you can hear his brain frying.
And there are there actually that we read about sort of
secret gay rituals that people don't talk about.
Now. Listen to this lemon law.
He is a secret gay ritual. Well,
this guy's about to blow his head off with it,
even though so so it's sort of hypocritical what happens they
sort of kill people who may be openly gay, but then there's
this sort of secret gay society.
Now I think lemon there is alluding to the Batu Bazi
pedophilia with little boys in Afghanistan. Well, you thought
that one can look this up. It's very, very Bac Ha ba Zi no
thought he knows what nobody wants to talk about it
that you thought that was bad. Wait until this. This professor
actually gives women peace of mind society.
Absolutely. Which there's a chaotic underground happening in
Afghanistan. Where Because? Because it's on the
back it up. Yeah, I want to say because I just this guy
obviously doesn't do a lot of media. He doesn't know what he
was put on the show to do. Nope. It was a big mistake. So they
brought this guy on, they probably you know, because they
I know work with these. These burgers out works. They call you
up. The producer calls you up and then they do pre briefing.
It's not quite as bad as they do on those big good talk shows.
Hello, hello, gay professor here.
Yeah, yeah. We have a couple of questions for you. You're gonna
be on Don Lemon. Right. You've already answered
that. Yes. Oh, Don. Yes. I love Don. It's great. Okay, you're
gonna be okay. You're gonna be in studio. You're going to be
Richard remote.
Oh, fantastic. Fabulous. I have a lot to say.
You have okay. What are you going to? Lemon? You know that
Don lemons gay? Well, of course, I've seen him on Grindr. And
you're going to kind of talk about gays in Afghanistan. And I
guess in the within the Muslim community is that? Am I correct
with this?
Well, I'd like to talk about my own persecution as as I was
persecuted, when I came back to the to Afghanistan as a
professor, how
can you kind of maybe minimize the persecution part and just
kind of give us a background on this general CI we need
something. It's a little. We don't want to get into a big
debate on Oh, of course, I'll
just whatever Don tells me to do. I'll just go along with him.
That's fine. Okay, you've done media before? Well, campus
newspaper?
I think it'd be good to go. Okay. Yeah. Good. No problem.
You have a good time. Enjoy yourself. Okay.
Right. Now. So that's the briefing. Lemon got some
very good. It wasn't a good briefing.
This is bad briefing.
I agree. There's a chaotic underground happening in
Afghanistan. Where Because? Because it's unacceptable. And
this, the government hasn't come out and said, because this
current government, you know, is has stopped murdering case at
the state level. very publicly under the Taliban. Yes, those
were happening as
that now that's that he's supposed to say all that. But
here's where it goes wrong. executions, like
we see in Iran and Saudi Arabia against LGBTQ Saudi Arabia, not
happy the minute I do have contact with 1000s of LGBT
Afghans. We gotta get, we gotta do something. And they tell me
that they'll GBT community there as being imprisoned, raped, find
incarcerated left to languish, and the national director of
security comes out. Yes kills people that anybody who tries to
promote gun rights we got this is what motivated Omar Mateen
was not able to come out. No sexuality with this face. Say
that.
Matt and thank you. Thank you. I have to go you know, have you
back on him on your you've been on before. Thank you so much. I
appreciate it.
So the minute he starts with something interesting.
Yeah, do Yeah. Yeah. So what's the got interesting, they had to
cut him off. And then he goes in and assaults the professor by
saying he wants the Imam back on because he's been on before
the mom. Exactly. And do you know what happened? Next jump,
they cut the commercial. And the very next thing on CNN, they
were the first ones with it. Yes. Alligator, alligator.
Alligator grande
coddler.
Now this was a hoax there is no evidence that happened but we
had all the news crews story Bronwyn Run Run to the alligator
now we have not seen now why you and I have no clips I just want
to just talk about this for one second. Because that was meant
as a distraction. If you're looking for a hoax that was a
hoax
do we have now let's let's get back to the topic I just want to
finish it as you move on these guys I got my clip okay all
right right he's got you keep putting off my clip because my
clip Yeah. Which was on Democracy Now resets the
narrative to what is supposed to be
the Can I just did it just 30 seconds. We don't want to have
to talk about the alligator ever again. Crocodile alligator
whatever the hell
uh, well, no, I will do the alligator and right after the
clip because the alligators the alligator, by the way, if this
was really happened does need to be sued within and where
was their crisis team? Where's their representative? Where's
their statement? Okay, fine. Which clip we plan?
Okay, this is the riot in New York. What happened after the
event in Orlando was there was a riot, which actually was a
protest of street protests in New York and sympathy for their
Orlando gays. And it was a gay Yes, yes. And so they started
marching down the street illegally ended up with the
Mounted Police, the horse guys came over there and rousted him
and knocked him to the ground and arrested three or four of
them. And this woman does social justice warrior woman who you're
going to hear from is the one who is going to represent them.
She's a lawyer, lawyer I would never hire and she was by the
way very, she didn't know what she'd never been in a studio
before. Obviously, the first time she's done media, and she
kept looking left and looking right. So her eyeballs are going
back and forth and back and forth very weirdly. But this
this is the this resets things because this Well, I think what
you've pointed out is that they went off the rails, that's what
we don't want to hear what we want to hear is this.
We see an over policing, surveillance, intrusion and
punishment disproportionately directed at queer and gender non
conforming people and of course within that in particular, black
and brown, queer and gender non conforming people which is of
course complicated in this instance as well by the fact
that there is this rising Islamophobic discourse
surrounding the events in Orlando and I think it bears
noting that there is a not insignificant overlap between
queers and Muslims so although they're being set up in this
instance as being somehow in conflict
nice one good catch
you being set up as in conflict, which is the clips you played
exactly, but you got horrible person but that
wasn't a setup that was a mistake and Don Lemon screwed up
and it took the other channels at least 20 minutes to get this
night shot above nothing. We have no witnesses on camera we
have no Disney representative on camera. We have I mean you could
at least get one other guests who says oh my god it was
splashing and screaming and we saw we have three kids no two
kids I don't know what four year old was in a playpen the two
year old is waiting off no one else saw this Disney issues a
three line statement we're sorry It's horrible when we get but
but anything else? No, this is that was your hoax right there.
I agree. And it's only happened to
think of I didn't even think of it as some of the daunting to
discuss but if you want to discuss it as a hoax, and you I
think you're right because you're right Disney would have
brought out your heavy hitters because You're gonna get sued
for having a gator on one of their properties like that and
have an alligator in the pool and
and end because I heard that lots of experts on you know,
like Jack Hanna and said, Well this just happened very
alligators I'm like people they don't grab people they they
issue them. And this is so rare 23 instances of human beings
being attacked by alligators in the past 45 years. Very rare,
but okay, it happened on Disney in a manmade Blake. We see we
see no, you know, typically even if it's a plane that went down
on apparently MSO eight of 804 We'll hear about that soon. You
always see the boat with the somber diver, you know with the
remains or whatever, you know, the kind of a fuzzy long
distance shot none of that Oh, and by the way, the child was
completely intact. The body okay. Okay. Not flattened, not
pieces bitten off nothing. No, just flat. It's completely good.
This was bull crap. And disney abc. You know, I think if we
were to look at a conspiratorially speaking then a
call went out from the Clinton saying we got to stop this we
got to bring us back to guns. So we need to just we need a big
distraction. And really it works because everyone at that point
was so tired so emotional about what had happened in Orlando,
that we just moved over to the to the alligator a story and
hope because not everyone can feel that and then the sheriff
announces the mother the Father's name the kid's name
since when do we do that?
Well, you know, that's not the only screwy thing and let's go
back to the shooting. Yeah, there's been a couple of weird
anomalies I've never seen before. And one of them is this
and you've seen it I didn't I know after about the 10th time I
saw it I said I've never seen this for why am I saying it now?
Which was the listing of the dead with their photos? Yes. Now
this is the fact this is the way it began on the ABC I think
there's ABC ABC names that play this clip is ABC names and faces
and the outages another anomaly and here is a very short clip as
well.
Finally tonight here the names and now so many of the faces of
the loved ones stolen from their families in Orlando
I have to say everybody pulled out the sad music big CNN even
brought brought backs James Earl Jones for this one. You're
watching the
world you know all the news. Oh, you got it. Yeah, like
no, that was me. That was me doing James Earl Jones
it's I've never seen this before they've been shootings or has
been massacres. There's been a few people shot a lot of people
shot there's been different things going on. Two things one,
they never do this. A and B when they do it for soldiers it's
always silence There's no music corny music that they're playing
in the background is a moment of silence This is a moment of crap
elevator music just
just saying there's a there's always a box do we used to have
it in the in the Netherlands if a if a member of royal family
dies or whatever there's a box and it's filled with the music
you pull out for something really really heavy. They pulled
out the heavy music box you know the the collider everybody was
doing it. Oh boy with flags waving and sad people in a
distance it was so overdramatize there was no it was actually
quite good.
I have to say, well, Daniel was this anomaly which was brought
and never done the thing I've I've never seen the news hour do
a correction on the air with this much kind of fanfare. I've
just never seen it. This is the I got
it. I got it. Last night we aired a story about the AR 15
rifle the weapon used in several recent mass shootings, Orlando
law enforcement officials that initially said that this was the
same gun type used in the nightclub massacre. But later
they clarified that the Orlando shooter was using a Sig Sauer
MCX. That is a rifle with several similarities to the AR
15 style. The SIG Sauer was originally designed for use by
US Special Operations military forces, the news our regrets the
confusion,
let me jump in with a clip from my beats just to talk about some
of the incredible confusion that has crept back into the lexicon
about assault rifles. And what that means because I saw this on
the on the on the House floor when the Democrats started up a
filibuster I saw it everywhere but where these where these
incorrect messages get propagated the most is of
course, on the view
queue John's grown
now are they still exist still on the six hour because there's
a little little piece of information that's necessary to
really show why they made such a big fuss about this
Sure, do you give me the Do you have another clip for that and
I'll play it. No, I
just have the message. Okay, go ahead. The SIG Sauer and the
only reason that would make a big stink about the six hours
six hours is because the Trump's made a big stink when they did
the New Hampshire primary of having the kids go up there
meeting with Sig Sauer sour, Eric and Trump Jr. Are there
with a guy the CEO of the Sig Sauer company and Mother Joe,
beautiful reps are associated. That's the only reason they've
the correction should have been. We've made a mistake. It was not
the air for there was a six out and then gone on. They went on
and on and on.
Well, this all of this was taken towards bashing trump the view
is was no exception. I just want to say
to Americans, you actually have a choice in this election. You
actually do you have power. There's
like 133 plus mass shootings in America since the beginning of
the year, and only several states have stricter laws on the
assault rifles. But please, please, maybe it's my age. How
come adults don't get it? They do they know they don't get
money.
It's about a lot of different things. You know, it's about an
amendment in the Constitution that people miss read.
This is my favorite part. This was the face bag conversation.
By the way. The face bag was just filled with guns, guns,
guns, guns, guns, take away guns, guns, bad. Stupid
Republicans from guns, guns, guns, guns,
the Constitution doesn't say you can carry hundreds of guns.
It doesn't specify that Ruby. That's true.
It says you can you can protect your home. It says you can
protect yourself. It doesn't say get 55 guns. You know, and, and
people say well, we need to have our guns because we can you
know, go shoot you can hunt anything with an assault rifle,
you can do it. There's nothing left and
it's gone. Now there is there is the typical thinking that this
type of weapon which is single shot not full automatic, that
when you say assault rifle, then you will be saying it's no good
for hunting because you pull the trigger and you shred the animal
that's no good for hunting. So this is just a pure
misinformation. She doesn't know what she's talking about. But of
course, when you do that, listen to the audience. You can do
it. There's nothing left I'm all you people on Twitter that like
to come after folks back? Because you can't explain this.
You can't explain this away. He couldn't explain it in Sandy
Hook. I can't explain it here. There's no reason for anybody to
have a machine gun, basically
a machine gun basically no, not even close. To do
that. I'm sorry. to yourself, I don't care what
you think. Keep your stuff to yourself. I don't care what you
think. So that's the disinformation, the
misinformation that is being that was being thrown out and is
everywhere. And then a lot of work was done, I think in after
Sandy Hook to explain to people what these types of weapons do.
And, you know, there's always the question, I'd have a simple
answer. Like, why do you need to have a rifle that looks like a
military weapon? Because that's really what it is. It's a rifle
that looks like a military weapon? And my answer is, for
the same reason we have cars that look like they belong on a
race track. You might as well stop because you might as well
get rid of those two. Because you know, it only makes you want
to go fast. And people go fast and create death and
destruction.
So there's something style thing. There's something called
what is style because there's something called fashion. And
there's something called modernity, what's meant there
and those rifles are modern looking. Yes. And they're not
old muskets with a big old wooden thing hanging their big
piece of crap kind of gun with a big barrel. These are modern
weapons and you buy them for whatever reason you might buy.
Derrick, the shields got one of those an AR 15. I got an AR 15.
And he uses it because there's coyotes that come out that will
kill his kids. I use
it for cans. You can use it for any sort of
target shooting gun.
It's great. It's a great target shooter. Now, it's just crazy.
Actually, I played the second clip just to get bigotry. Yeah,
just to get out of the way. I'll play the second one because now
of course we have to take it to Donald Trump on the view
obviously
have any ties right now between the shooter and ISIS at all? Oh,
they think you know, except for one phone call, which everybody
reminds me he said he was connections ISIS, but that
doesn't make him tie dice. I agree. So
he made the trying to move it away
and a whole lot of fun. Yes. And he was aligned with a whole lot
of folks. Listen, nobody's gonna know what the answer is. Okay.
The thing about Trump though is that he's the recruiter in
chief. He is. He is basically working with ISIS to kill us.
Together.
He's He's the recruiter in chief. He's working these he's
working with ISIS to kill us. He says, who kill us to kill us
working together?
Yes. Remember what I'm Why do you say this? Because every time
you go after the Muslims, and you talk about how they
shouldn't come into the country, and how they're all a bunch of
whatever's you are saying to ISIS, make another video to show
people who are sympathetic to your cause. And don't think they
haven't made many videos showing Donald Trump he is
no they haven't we actually went through that. There was no there
was no video first. That was. That's a scandalous, that was a
Clinton lie. And we and she was called out on it. Yeah. And
double down
dangerous menace to the country. And I believe can be I wake up
in the morning, I'm so stressed out, because people are actually
continuing to say have more guns. Since 2005. Half of all
mass killings have occurred in this country.
It's our country. Man. I'm so sick of hearing people say when
you say this country, it's like you're from outer space, and you
landed just to do your show. But then you're going to take off
again. Yeah, you're sensitive to that. But I'm really angry about
this. You know, Ben Trump does it too. He says our country's
from time to time. But it's dumb. It's rude. It's arrogant
and makes you sound elitist and makes you sound like you don't
belong to this country when this country is our country. That
just that would be if you want to talk about love and peace.
Let's just talk about that
in 2005 is when we're,
and I want to say that. So this is another big mean is Oh, when
they abolished the assault weapon ban, then the numbers
went up on mass shootings. Yeah. But they also just like other
scales change the definition of a mass shooting. That's two or
more people in this area. We had 12 People die in Chicago over
the weekend. Well, then
they also they mean, two or more people that were actually shot
not killed necessarily.
Correct. Doesn't mean you don't have to ask shooting the
masculine. Yes, exactly. So this is a false statistic
or assault rifle. ban was lifted during the Bush administration
W. That is when half of all mass killings started in 2005, since
the ban was lifted. So ipso facto, ipso facto,
what is that? No, no, what does ipso facto mean? Well, it means
thus,
but look it up. I don't think it even exists as a really I don't
think it's real. I'm just gonna say it all the time. But
cartoons are some
Listen to me. Dvorak ipso facto
in 2005, since the ban was lifted, so ipso facto, there is
a connection to the grounds that I think it's very cheesy
what Latin instruct
lifted, so ipso facto, there is a connection to the guns.
And they also say that I think it's very interesting. It's
interesting to me that it's very telling that the first thing he
they know about the shooter, is that you know, that he's, he's,
he's, he's Muslim, right? Instead of exactly, you know,
and it's that thing where it's very telling to see the
assumptions that are made. Hey, is hey, we all know it, get out
of my
mind. Okay, just to wrap up this segment, I want to make some
conclusions.
Then we could say it's not
wrapped by the no, this just to get just this thing is dipshits.
Now, not the dipshits I want to come back to what I'm seeing and
then we can move forward. What I'm seeing is, here's a guy for
whatever reason, he is gay. They had questions about his
sexuality. Perhaps he was abused. Abuse is certainly
sexual abuse could mess someone up big time, about their
sexuality, who they are just, it's horrible as that may have
happened, but just taking the timeline back into account and
that so many gay guys, were saying, oh, yeah, I saw him on
Grindr. I saw him in the club, you know, a couple years on
there. I saw him there. But none of them. None of them says yeah,
I boned him. Now, I'm sure that they wouldn't want to say that
at this moment. But when I remember when for Saatchi was
killed in Florida, and they were looking for the guy. And they
found him in Libya was hiding in in a boat trailer or something
or some boathouse for the whole time. And then I was because I
was talking to Brian, the gay Crusader because I need to
bounce some ideas off of him, so to speak. And the he said, well,
back when that happened, he said everyone's walking around town.
Yeah, I dated him. I had sex with him. And none of that was
true, but let's just presume right now that all these guys,
gay guys that had been in contact with him, but no one
wanted to have sex with them. In fact, time after time I hear
well, he was creepy. He looked creepy. He actually sounded
creepy. but it is possible looking at the timeline, that
there was a rage building up, he was completely conflicted with
his father, which is also a big deal. And there was an
altercation because there's reports of people saying, Hey,
don't talk to him come outside. And we think he's, he's weird.
So he might have been rejected by the gay community as he was
desperately trying to come out and fit in.
There. I have a one one report was from one of the guys there's
a Brian Ross did a large piece, which I have a clip of it, you
know, but you don't need to play it describing his gay
proclivities. And one guy says, Hey, he's been at a bunch of
these clubs, and I've seen him for the last number of years.
That's my point. Yeah. But it's, it's possible that he went in at
midnight, and something happened and he was rejected, I think we
should stay open to the possibility that they're in the
gay community, I'll just say, gay, specifically, gay men, that
there is some Islamophobia going on, and did not help this guy
come out. If this happens to you, if you're in a western
society, and you have feelings, or whatever it is, and you can
come out to your family, it starts to build aggression. And
then you're being shunned by the community you want to be a part
of, because that community may be afraid of you. There's some
travitt some tragedy right there that the gay community commute,
I hate the fucking community word, LGBT LGBTQ IAP everybody
needs to think about that, too. It's very possible that that was
a lot of what went on with this guy. Well, and if you add to it,
that he was probably
not to like someone.
Of course, of course, but you can't have it both ways.
You can say Islam hates gay and therefore when there's a gay guy
trying to be a part of the community that he's issued, or
that he's rejected or whatever it is. I thought it was kind of
good word
is a good word. But I am the one that uses a shoe. Sorry, I think
we should take a quickie. There take a quick break. Oh, discuss
the the thing I want to discuss for you
before you do what you came to do. Well, in that case, I'd say
thank you very much for your courage and in the morning to
you John. See what the C stands for. closeted ha
and in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry before gypsy boots on
the ground feet in the air in the water all the names and IDS
out there.
And in the morning to our chat room had been a little off this
morning. We have people in there saying we're full of shed was a
false flag. Do you liars were Jews No, so disappointing. So
disappointing. It
doesn't mean that wasn't a false flag but it wasn't a false flag
in advance correct.
Then I want to thank just taking advantage
of the situation this guy did this is there's no there's not
enough now that we don't have enough anyway. I want
to say in the morning to our artists nick the rat in
particular who was back he brought us the artwork for
episode eight, three man buns and Mohawks beautiful with
Hamilton with a gay rainbow shout out to this guy and it was
a nice, nice stylized piece. Thank you, Nick. Thank you to
everybody who submits artwork at no agenda are generated that
artwork
had so many messages that we couldn't even figure all of them
out
who said it's good to go. Bring it on me.
Give it to him. Yeah. Anything that has to do with the Hamilton
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First of all,
before you get into your FBI CIA thing, which I want to do next,
I do want to play another anomaly discovery which is how
did this guy die? And I have three clips I have the
discussion of the holes in the wall, which apparently They
rammed into the bathroom wall where those people were busting
a bunch of pipes which wasn't necessarily reported as no signs
of water damage, but okay, and and there's there was actually
two reports of how they shot him. We should probably listen
to them both in order this is the end of event one.
Okay, got it.
But the police explosives didn't break through. So they ran the
wall with an armored car. The 15 ran out. The SWAT team was
preparing to enter the same breach to assault the gunman.
But before they had a chance, but teen left his hostages and
came out of the breach shoot there are bullet holes all over
the wall where the police cut Mateen down
now I was looking
where's the blood splatter? Wouldn't it be some blood
splatter if you know and outside like that?
So head mofo in charge. I was looking at some of his analysis
and most military guys look at the bullet holes and said that
that looks like it was a spray from automatic fire presumably
from the SWAT team there was not a boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
They think it was.
Well, I've got a great clip. Okay, but let's but before we
even get
to that I agree where there was no blood splatter. I didn't see
it either.
Yeah, where's the blood splatter should have been a lot of it
seems to me, especially with all those bullets. Yeah,
we need to talk to the props master about that. Well,
the reason there may have not been blood splatter is because
of the second clip to this where he was really shot drunkle
his gun jamming.
He was like, damn, I could chant so with my face under the stall
looking I could see him put down his machine guns.
And then the SWAT team breaks in the water pipes break.
They shot him dead. There was water starting to rise. I was
getting really scared. Because I was thinking like, if I don't
get like they don't get to me soon or something that might
drown sitting here in this water that was begging for God to take
the soul out of my body because I didn't want to feel any more
pain. I didn't want to get any more shot
or raw emotion tonight. Overwhelming.
So now I just say one thing from experience. I've had Glocks jam
on me. But the Sig Sauer that's got a very special mechanism
Yeah, well not whether it's jammed or not and you probably
didn't have the gun they came in and shot him inside anything.
Yes don't mail trap now. But
this is a tape that was done by a guy who lives across the
street these other people use this tape because he sent it
into one of the news bureaus and it used the suite and all that
all the
guns fire and everything yeah,
this is the guy this is the the Davis Ward clip. And this is
I've only cut the piece out that's important. He is decided
to record what's going on across the street because this the SWAT
team had come in it's like five in the morning this three hours
later. And I don't know what was going on in the meantime, but
there wasn't any shootings or anything like that the claim was
a hostage situation. And this to me is a guilt is a classic cop.
You know, we were just going to who I can't imagine that they
didn't kill a bunch of people. In fact, let me before we play
that I have this this is the clip from the doctors after the
initial number of people were sent to the hospital. Play this
first I'm sorry this the trauma center simulation clip thing on
kill. The death toll would have been much higher if not for
this. The busiest fully equipped Trauma Center in all of Florida
is two blocks from here. Just three months ago, Orlando
Regional Medical Center practice and active shooter mass casualty
drill. Today we spoke to six surgeons who save lives. Michael
Cheatham, Chadwick Smith, William have run, Mark Levy,
Joseph E Rahim and Matt Looby. They saw 44 Gunshot patients at
once.
They brought the first patient in and then they brought another
patient in and then they brought another patient in. And they
said that there were possibly 20 More gunshot wound patients
coming in. And at that point, I called my backup. It was very
chaotic
there. Huh? Okay, it goes on there. So so this thing 20 The
word 20 comes out. There's the word 10. Somebody said. But
after 5am When this goes to 50 it goes to 50 and 50 injured.
Now listen to this clip from this date from this guy across
the street. And you will hear hell break loose for just enough
time to do who knows how many bullets were fired? That was the
kill one guy.
Yeah. Now, do you think that was sweetened or anything? That's
just no way. It was just you could see that. He had the thing
it was it was posted. Yeah, I don't think it was sweetened at
all. That was the barrage.
Yeah. And then do you know what time this was a
bike that was at five. Okay. Yeah. So when the swatch finally
came in, and there were still people in there. So if they did
that in the bathroom, people died. Well, no, they did it
outside in the I don't know where they did it. There's a lot
of holes outside. I don't know, there was four holes on the side
of the place. Maybe just start peppering the place? I have no
idea what because they're not reporting it. They're not
discussing it. They just somebody Oh, that guy came
barreling out shooting suppose it
so you know, yeah, no, I'm pretty sure that you know,
because of the they won't release the tapes, and I'm
pretty sure a lot of casualties casualties took place because of
the SWAT team. We just went off. Yeah, are hard to say.
They will not discuss that after the fact you can be sure of it.
Yeah.
Now they want
they want well
there's one other we'll get into that in a moment. Now I want to
go to the FBI. FBI vs. CIA thing. So we had to
keep can I? I just saw it a clip here. I would like to get out of
the way before you do that because this about the FBI.
Okay, because I'm going to add this is like a kind of an ask
Adam. Uh huh. This is the CBS report of the FBI. This isn't
another this is a short clip of Comey with this unbelievably
strange comment at the end of this report. This is number one
put Texas,
the FBI had run two investigations of a son that was
accused of failing to connect the dots before that shooting.
In the Mattoon investigation. The FBI is promising a review to
determine if something should have been done differently.
Our work is very challenging. We are looking for needles in a
nationwide haystack. But we're also called upon to figure out
which pieces of hay might someday become needles.
Federal law enforcement sources say they have few opportunities
to spot and stop lone wolf Scott. And even when they get
the intelligence they feel they need to build a case. Often the
First Amendment limits what they can do. What
the First Amendment, the First Amendment limits what they can
do. That's why
they need to build a case. Often the First Amendment limits what
they can do.
Oh, hold on, let me spin it back a little more. What the heck is
going on here?
Bret Baier
stop lone wolf Scott. And even when they get the intelligence
they feel they need to build a case. Often the First Amendment
limits what they can do.
What do you not mean? The fourth amendment?
It might I don't know. But let's This is Scott Pelley. This is
CBS national news is a big stock Big Show. I have clipped to
where where Scott Pelley responds to this. How do you
think what do you think he would say? If you're like assuming
it's the fourth amendment? I wouldn't say I would say the
first amendment the freedom is freedom of speech. I mean, what
does it have to do with any Well, I
would say unless you meant the Fourth Amendment. Is there some
freedom of speech issue that they are violating by by going
after someone investigating them. Yeah, that would be my
question. Okay, here we go. It's
often the first amendment limits what they can do.
Jeff, the gays in the Washington newsroom, Jeff, thank you. Well,
Orlando became part of the presidential campaign today.
Of course, he wasn't listening. That's why it doesn't care. It
wasn't listening. It was not listening.
All right, now you're on your own. Okay. So
you have asserted and this is not just from you. This is in
fact, that comes from the Carl Bernstein how close the ties are
between the CIA and the media. And we're pretty sure that Trump
has not been like you brought up several times Trump's got to
figure out how to deal with the CIA because they are working
against him. And if he's not all on board, then then he's going
to have some problems. Yes, and I would say that when it comes
to CIA, that is the Obama Clinton, the N, and probably
bush. That's there, guys. But certainly, CIA is much more for
Clintons than FBI. In fact, FBI probably very annoying towards
the Clintons, because they know a lot of stuff. Because that's
what FBI does. It's a culture.
It traditionally beginning with J. Edgar Hoover, who was the you
know, pretty much the first guy there. Yeah. They have been a
they've worked. Blackmail.
Correct. Isn't that correct?
Different, like mailers? Correct. So here we have Comey
coming out and saying, hey, you know, if we screw up I might
have I don't know, but we look backward. We look forward will
be open will be transparent, honestly, to tell you I don't
think we messed up the I don't know how I'm Yeah, I don't know.
Anybody who listens just to eat without the background we have,
which is a lot more than what is being told, would say now you
either you turn this guy and tried to use him, you tried to
radicalize them, or you just you had him working for I don't
know, whatever it is, you screwed up, you screwed up, you
screwed up, you screwed up, and no one is saying FBI screwed up,
certainly not in the media. Now Trump was on Hannity was
actually quite an interesting interview. And he was very
comfortable. And I think he lit a lot more than he should have.
And here is the
first clip, the FBI knew this guy claimed at work, that he was
connected to al Qaeda and Hezbollah reports he cheered
after 911. And they looked into it for 10 months. He got he got
free. How do we fix that? Well, they had a bad day. I'm a big
fan of the FBI and things can happen. And I guess they didn't
have anything concrete on him.
Really. Really, they had a bad day. I don't know they're just
had a bad day. I'm a big fan of the FBI. Hey,
but he's all in with the FBI in the den. We do know we've talked
about this before on the show Comey as a banker, and and a
Republican,
right. Stay with me. Now that of course was not going to be no
one's going to take that lying down. If you're if you're part
of the CIA. Michael Hayden got rolled out. former director of
CIA.
Yeah, yeah, he's a he's a monkey on a string.
Listen to the words. He's saying. Listen to what he's
saying in these multiple clips. Here. He has in the morning, Joe
Show
gone. Your FBI agent earlier mentioned this. Look, we've had
three examples. Now folks on the radar, Major Nidal Hassan,
tambling, Sanaya. And now, Omar Mateen, who are on the radar,
who were looked at, and then dismissed. Look, this is this is
not my criticizing the FBI.
No, no, hey, look, this is not my criticizing the FBI. Wow,
okay. Okay. Yes, that's exactly what you're doing. That's why
you're saying, hey, and then put that in your head. This is not
me correcting the FBI and
dismissed. Look, this is this is not my criticizing the FBI or
the agent to look into this. But you know what, Joe, it's quite
possible that when they looked into these individuals, they
weren't in the place that they finally ended up in. So this is
just very hard. Look, you talked owner with David Agni. He said,
Look,
he says it all the time. That's what he wants you to listen to
his lie.
I could sense a sense of resignation in David's voice
that we're getting pretty close to the limits as to what the
state can do without changing our nature as a society.
Well, and there's one kind of very sort of nebulous area where
all of this possibly could be tracked in some way. Or maybe
you tell us it's online. I mean, his Facebook page was taken
down, but I wonder if there's a trail on line, if there
was access to here's mica basically saying, Hey, you
should track us better the search engines
used, etc. Where do we go from there? Where do we stand now?
Well, American industry in terms of Facebook and Twitter and so
on have actually been pretty good at taking down sites that
are obviously a clear and present danger. But make a where
do you draw the line between an independent thought and
something that state has the right to forbid?
Alright, so there he is, with I'm not trying to call out the
Hitler this guy. Here is a Hayden once again,
does law enforcement have the tools it needs? Do the taxpayers
give enough money? Are there enough men and women on the
ground?
So right now the bureau is under resourced to handle that number
of cases you and I just discussed? He's talking about
FBI 1000s to 10s of 1000s. And then what do you do after you've
let someone go, you can say no, he is not a danger. At this
time. If you had more resources, you might be able to check in
every now and again. So number one, the bureau probably needs
more resources, if we want them to do this. And that's a
separate question. Uh huh. Beyond that, the bureau probably
needs more tools. If we want them to do this, they need more
authorities to use the whole rack of things they're allowed
to do in a criminal case. And a case that I described before to
Jake is not a criminal case. It's an American about whom they
have suspicions. So how far do you want the bureau to go in
terms of invading that individual's privacy? Do you
want me to go into the Facebook account? Do you want them to go
into the emails and so on? I mean, these are very serious
questions. Let me give you a real world example of mistakes
you can go into they're already gone into the Facebook accounts.
Yeah, but he is what he's doing is saying you really want the
FBI to have this power. Really? The FBI needs his power. Is that
what you want? Do you want?
Okay, I'm just saying he's also lying in it. Oh, of
course, he is, of course, but he's here to say, FBI. No,
don't forget, don't forget his last job was not CIA members NSA
was NSA that the real spooks
the real guys who hate FBI Yes, nine
Umar Farooq, Abdullah Matana are the the Pharaoh no underwear
bomber, the plain old plenaries also
making them look good by saying well, you know, the FBI, this is
a third time the FBI has done that third time they let someone
go after investigating of Detroit,
Jake, up to Christmas Eve, there was a national outcry that the
National Counterterrorism Center had far too many people on the
no fly list. By Christmas night, the National complaint was that
there weren't enough people on the no fly list. And so when
this dies down, you're gonna have somebody else in here in
this chair, complaining about what the Federal Bureau of
Investigation is doing.
So, this there is something going on and it could be as
simple as Trump, FBI, Clinton, CIA, listen to the final clip.
This is former CIA chief James Woolsley, Woolsey. And there's
couple things in here we have to discuss.
It's not the Bureau's job to try to, in a way stop crime. It's
their their investigative agency, their job is to find the
criminal once a crime has been committed. And if they can stop
a crime from occurring, yes, they will. But they they are not
principally organized to look toward the future and stopping
someone from doing something even before he has committed a
crime or take an action. It is being constantly
held back by political correctness, that we are so
sensitive to everybody, especially Muslims, that we can
go gung ho and say, Hey, knock it off. To be blunt.
We're held back by our own political correctness. You agree
with that? Oh, yes, absolutely. about it.
Well, we've got to change that. We have got to realize we are at
war, we've got to go into action the way we did in World War Two,
we've got to get the best of America on dealing with
something like the dark web, and figure out how to get out in
front of the way Sabian and some of these consoles.
What was that what I couldn't hear was it Sapiens, I tried to
play it a couple more times if you couldn't get
it because I tried to find out. This was something he was
pushing. If he's on the board, I could not find something called
sapient. Listen again.
How to get out in front of the way sapien and some of these
sapiens sapiens sapiens Satan Satan sapien could be the chat
room could help with that because I looked and I could not
find any any terror Consulting Corporation or anything was the
but he's not saying that without reasons. Because he's Oh, do it
like those guys. Okay, so the way
Cheyenne and some of these consulting companies do and
advising about about business and purchases of goods and so
forth advertising, we've got to get at least that good advert.
I know what I know. Yes, woman I know. Isn't that crazy? Listen
again, good
play that again, you get any stores advertised I know this
was the NPR
was exactly what it sounds like a
business and purchases of goods and so forth advertising. We've
got to
Why is what kind of advertising do we have to do? What do you
think? What do you think that means? I mean just listened.
Well, here's the
maybe this into our show and he's picked up does advertising
mean?
Okay, moving on to money?
How are NPRs corporate underwriting revenues holding up
in the recession? And what about foundation grants?
Two different stories. Underwriting is underwriting is
is down it's down for everybody. I mean, this is this is this is
the area that is most down for us is in is in sponsorship,
underwriting advertising, call it whatever you want a purchases
of goods and so forth advertising
is odd. extremely odd. I don't know why he throws that in
there. But it's
fun, we've got to get at least that good. In terms of dealing
with those who may be on the verge of committing crimes and
crimes of the sort that we saw in Orlando. We've got to put
pull America together in a public private partnership to
take on the Islamist the Muslim part of Islam. So a terrorist
movement well that's not all Muslims. Of course, it's not all
Muslims, but it is some
Okay, so I think there's something there is something to
the thought that the FBI CIA warring factions that there's
this ties into the election. The interesting to see Trump within
so you said he needs to get in good graces with the FBI. He
could have not done anything more opposite by saying stayed
with the CIA Yeah, with the CIA I'm sorry. And he sit down with
FBI good guys like him they had a bad day. Okay, now I want to
do you want to jump in or something cuz I got one more try
I think
keep going but I mean via Well, it was easy because Comey is a
Republican is it makes a lot of sense to get easily be on this
side of this battle. But this battle between these agencies,
we have to always remember it's mostly for the money
Oh, yeah, it's for stuff to buy cool ship stuff so they can get
more stuff out and they see these other guys as competitors.
Yes, the NSA sees the CIA's competition the CIA sees it all
everybody has competition. And the CIA is the one that controls
the media the best I mean, they have as according which
is perhaps why he mentioned advertising.
Oh, that's interesting. We referring to native advertising,
or what the advertising Yeah.
Sy be a it's interest. I think its guests. Why ba n Sabian.
Let's just take a look. With Sabian the ultimate sex toys
now. That's not it. Thanks. chatroom. Very funny.
Suckers.
I think that's, I think that's Wow, it's that thing. Okay. Ah,
you got me. Good one. Rick rolled Nice. Okay, then the
mainstream media did something mind blowing to me mind blowing.
This is CBS
ISIS propaganda videos like this one. Show men accused of having
sex with other men executed in typically barbaric fashion. And
it's not just under ISIS that gay and lesbian people face the
death penalty, same sex sexual relations are illegal in more
than 70 countries. But only in seven predominantly Muslim
states. Can you be sentenced to death for it? Both the Koran and
the Bible condemn homosexuality, according to some
interpretations, but as the West has become more tolerant when it
comes to sexuality, it sparked a culture clash with many
conservative Muslims.
Now there was a lot and it was I'm not quite sure why it played
out there. Blue White played out that way. But there was a lot of
the mainstream media who were either either interviewing
people or were just making statements that you know, hey,
you know, homophobia, it's really crazy Christians. You
know, that's really that's the crazy Christians that are that
are like that. Yeah, it's a really got to take a look at
that. In fact, Carl Bernstein one, I'll play him later. But
then, before that Trump interview, and I never watch
Hannity, he did something very interesting, which is cherry
pick, but he's making an interesting point. He put
together a montage of the President talking about two
religions. And do you remember the President when he when
President Obama first came in office, he went on what the The
Republicans called the apology tour. And he went to
it began in the Middle East. Yeah, it'd
be said, Hey, we're sorry. You know, we suck, we're going to do
better Love is the answer is, et cetera, et cetera. So handy pull
administration, this was a good job because it caught my
attention. And he has a well, it just has a mix of how he speaks
about different religions.
The United States is not and will never be at war with Islam.
And I'm also proud to carry with me the goodwill of the American
people, and a greeting of peace for Muslim communities in my
country. Salam aleikum. Islam is not part of the problem. in
combating violent extremism, it is an important part of
promoting peace. Our enemies respect no religious freedom.
How kindness causes not Islam, to gross distortion of Islam,
the future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of
Islam. ISIL is not Islamic. No religion condones the killing of
innocents. And the vast majority of ISIS victims have been
Muslim, we have reaffirmed again and again, that the United
States is not and never will be at war with Islam. Islam teaches
peace. Remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition,
people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ, slavery,
and Jim Crow, all too often was justified in the name of Christ.
On Easter, I do reflect on the fact that as a Christian, I am
supposed to love and I have to say that sometimes when I've
listened to less than loving expressions by Christians
concern.
So you are one of the few people I know, who has openly said you
question Obama's religion and you view I've said many times, I
think he could actually be Muslim. So based
on all the time, and I would refer people to the Daniel Pipes
material. Very, he's at the Hoover Institute, and he's got a
very long essay on his Daniel pipes.org. And right, I believe
is what it is, right? It's not.com because the car folks
stole that. But anyway, you can find it his discussion of this
and it's very convincing and as we both noticed that during
certain time Ramadan certain no watch no jewelry, Oh, watch it
and wear the jewelry. And he takes all the so he he follows
these things. And I've always thought he's when they had the
big stink about Jeremiah, right. And he went to that church. We
don't talk about that anymore. No, we don't talk about it
anymore. But he never I don't believe he ever went he went
once in a while. Sure. This does show up for the locals. But he
never heard that guy go on and on and on about all this
negative stuff. And then he wears his what churches he go to
what President has picked some local church, and Episcopalian
Church are the big Catholic Church and one of these churches
in in the Washington DC area they go to every Sunday just
just for show. He won't do it for show.
So you're ready for this. So what if, what if there was
indeed a Plan A long time ago, a plan a long, long time ago? That
was hey, we've got these problems with the Saudis. The
Saudis are irritating. They're bad. But we're stuck with them
right now, because they still have a stranglehold on on our
oil. We got oil relationships, Big Oil relationships, they
they've been manipulating the price. So why don't we try and
bring in a guy because this is I think typical. Uber left
thinking is, the world is in trouble. We and we have we do
not understand how to deal with Saudi Arabia, Turkey at the
time, Egypt, because we have the Sunnis and the Shias. And but I
think mainly the Saudis. How about we bring in a guy who's
Muslim who understands how this works, and maybe he can bring
the world together? Because that is the thinking because if you
listen to what everybody is saying, After this, it's all
love will overcome we need to do it with love. Yeah, I'm all for
love and rainbow and you know, rainbows and unicorns, but, you
know, there's a point when you have to consider that maybe
that's not the way to go. But that is definitely the way that
this President and his entire administration has steered it we
need to be open and love and you know, we'll go ahead our love
will stop your bullets.
Well, I think it's interesting that clip that of course,
Hannity so he's very slanted he's
I said it was cherry picked I of course, it was totally
cherry pick, but it was very interesting because it was
cherry picked in such a way I mean, it's like Muslims good
Christians bad was really the underlying minutes. Think about
this for a moment. And by the way, I'm gonna go back to my
Can I just gonna just add one? Little help your hope? Go ahead.
It's
I don't care if he's a Muslim. That's what I want to just point
out? Of
course not. But what is the hang with me on the theory? What if
Trump knew this? Then he decided to play the longest game of his
career starting four years ago, by calling Obama out as not
being a natural born United States citizen. The I don't
think he was crazy doing that, I believe now in hindsight, but if
we take into account that, you know, this is the thinking, I
believe that this was a long game that he was going to start
this up and it will come back, I'm sure it will come back. But
this was him getting under the President's skin early on,
because he knew that he was going to go after him full
force. And I think he has some information true or not, he has
information that we don't know about. And this in an odd way in
this interview is doing came around to something else I think
is going on. Well,
and before you continue, I just want to throw in a little
variable in here. The as I said earlier, the FBI was with Trump,
they'd be the ones that would have all the dirt on Obama
because that's what they do. Yes. And it had the
dirt on Trump being a pain with Trump and and then have it on
Trump too. So you know, I'm sure he knows that he knows that. But
Trump
seems you know that Trump seems pretty dull, to be honest about
it. I don't think he's got a lot of dirt. But anyway, go on.
Well, we're gonna listen to a few other things that for the
mob connection, right, well,
everyone's afraid of uncovering that. Okay, so here is Trump.
And so I'm taking that into that into into account with at the
time Egypt, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia being the bad actors we
want to change. Have a listen to this bit of the interview
between Hannity and Trump,
Mohamed Morsi, the former Muslim Muslim Brotherhood had had
referred to the Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs,
Obama and Hillary Clinton gave him F sixteens tanks, and a
billion US dollars. So if they're really concerned about
weaponry in the hands of radicals, why would they give
him all of that equipment? Because I think that Obama
treats others far better than he treats Israel. He treats Israel
so badly. I have many Jewish friends and they raise money for
him and they raise money for the Democrats. They say, what are
you people doing? Why would you do this? That Iran deal was the
end of it? That is the worst thing, perhaps we'll go down to
the worst thing Hillary was a part of that to negotiation
started that she was a part of it. She started I mean, it was
her and then John Kerry took it over.
Okay, this helps me with the biggest problem that I've been
racking my brains about. Just hear me out on this theory. So
what if Hillary and Obama and whoever else the Clinton cronies
are they decided, Okay, we got to get this Saudi Arabia
problem, Egypt, problem. Turkey problem, why don't we go talk to
the other guys, that would be Iran? And of course, are with
Iran, come Syria? with Iran, Syria comes Russia, then why
don't we make a deal with these guys, so we can push these
fuckers out. And the idea was good. And that's why Clinton
went and met with Iran secretly. The problem is, with a row with
the Iran deal, and now in place, what we're seeing is Lebanon,
which is on the west Clark seven, Lebanon is now gearing up
to bomb Israel from the other border. And if if Israel found
out that Clinton had instigated that should never be president,
you can become president in United States without the Jewish
Israeli vote. And maybe that's why it was so secretive.
Like this, right?
Yeah, there's every there's not a peg missing there from your
little steps, status step ladder
that makes sense like Oh, my God that we can't and that would
warrant deleting transcripts, lying covering up the lies the
video deletion? Yeah, we cannot let the Israeli know the
Israelis know, although Gee, think they know by now
that he think nerve intelligence would have gotten into her
server for sure if anybody?
Well, there's that. If you don't mind
by Well, you know, this funny thing about this thesis is that
this really probably you can see it in Netanyahu. Yes. I sure
sees when he's with Obama, he just did oozes from him that he
hates this guy. He knows something.
Well, that's good. You bring that up because being a student
now of Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, and you must read
his blog blog.dilbert.com And every post he does, he says at
the end, I am voting for Hillary Clinton because As I am forced
to I'm not safe if I don't, which is my own safe for my own
safety, yeah, for his own safety. But we've learned that
Trump is using very brilliant hypnotics. He's using persuasion
techniques that Scott Adams is the deconstructed and we've
we've played it on the show. So when it comes to the president,
but anyone hating anybody, but now specifically President Obama
hating
Trump, he did a brilliant persuasion technique that was
actually a couple of them. This is the one that aired
continuously after his speech,
one of the folks on television said boy is Trump gotten under
his skin. But he was more angry. And a lot of people have said
this, the level of anger that's the kind of anger he should have
for the shooter, and these killers that shouldn't be here.
Now, every single time view this is Scott Adams concept every
time this is not his concept, it's well known persuasion
techniques. View. Every time you hear the president getting mad
at Donald Trump now anchored in your mind, which which creates a
bias or what is it consideration bias or something he calls it?
Every time you see an I actually took a picture because I have
the same couple of clips where we're Obama goes off on Trump,
crazy, this graphic, you might as well play that clip. That's
the Obama rant, which is it was the prelude it was almost like a
setup. It was the prelude. This is a radical Islam.
Oh, I'm sorry. Which one is it?
This is the radical Islam rant from Obama that that Trump was
reacting to in that class
for a while now, the main contribution of some of my
friends on the other side of the aisle have made in the fight
against ISIL. Is to criticize this administration and me for
not using the phrase radical Islam. That's the key. They tell
us. We can't beat ISIL unless we call them radical Islamist. What
exactly would using this label? accomplish? Calling a threat by
a different name. Does not make it go away.
Yeah, that's right. Because it's ISIS. ISIL is Diane Nash.
He goes on today. I don't know how the whole clip but
he gets mad. He blasts Trump, he gets mad. So no, every single
time. And this clip, this was not just unhandy every every new
station was playing this as a bumper out into commercial.
I had this clip the version I have of the clip, which is a
little longer you might want to play us I would I would this is
the this I'm going to tell you this, though, Trump retort to
Obama play this, but this was on Democracy Now.
And I watched President Obama today. And he was more angry at
me that he wasn't the shooter. And many people said that
there's the anchor.
One of the folks on television said boy is Trump gotten under
his skin. But he was more angry. And a lot of people have said
this. The level of anger. That's the kind of anger he should have
for the shooter. These killers. That shouldn't be
beautiful. Yeah. So that's an anchor, and that was on purpose.
And that was extremely well done. He did a second one. This
is for Clinton. It's an oldie a goodie. I think it still works.
Even for today's millennials.
She never until yesterday said radical Islam. And that's
because she was shamed into it. That's because she was shamed
into it by me. And that's because of the pressure I put on
her. But here's a woman that takes all of this money from
these countries. And then she says she loves women. And she's
totally with the gays. And the
notice he was using your language John, the gay the gays,
which the gays have taken issue where they just want to point
out, but he's a thug aid and
she's totally with the gays and the, you know, the whatever
group you might talk,
by the way, I just want to say there is a lot of strife between
the gays and the lesbians and the trans. This is not a
community LGBT is not a community. Gay guys are mean to
lesbians. I'm generalizing. But I have a an omni gender
daughter. I hear a lot. They are gay guys. If they're, they can
be really mean to lesbians. And lesbians and gay guys can be
mean to transsexual people. This is it's not cut and dry. Like
it's one big community
about the Gay Lesbian. Now let me just a show. How can she be
they want to kill because they throw more buildings, they
actually throw gays off buildings. And so taking money
and I'm calling for her to give back all of the money she's
taken from the Countries Okay,
here comes a wait, hey, Ah,
wait a minute. Oh, I'm sorry. This is the one I wanted. Well,
that was good too. Here we go. Oops, come on. But
they have no documentation. We don't know where they come from
really. This could be the all time great Trojan horse will
bring the Trojan horse out of retirement.
He's actually telling you what he's doing. We're bringing the
old Trojan horse out of retirement. Now, whenever you
hear about immigration, you're gonna think, holy crap, Trojan
horse. Do you watch you'll be using this a lot.
This could be the all time great Trojan horse. We're allowing
these people and Hillary Clinton wants many more to come in Obama
has got a certain number. She wants to increase it by 550%. Is
this insanity or what?
He's also came up with a new term for Hillary, of course,
he's crooked Hillary is a good one. I'd like this. This was
this is not necessarily meant as something to anchor you to. But
it was nice. Anyway, her secret
service agent said she's a disaster. She's a total
disaster. She doesn't have the temperament. She talks about my
temperament. My temperament is great. It's a tough temperament.
But that's what we need. Her temperament. She's wacky.
Wacky, I tell you. She doesn't wacky.
I like the wacky thing. Because if you start looking at her
photos, she looks wacky. She hasn't she has a lot of pictures
taken of her where she literally looks wacky, wacky. Now, I don't
know we'll do this during this past little segment and did last
night save over the last week. I would like to know what happened
to Elizabeth Warren. Yeah, well, we'll find that many clips
overnight. So she didn't get in on this. Now she has to lie low
is she's the bull dog. She's the one that goes after and tries to
bite. She's getting
told to shut up and back off for whatever it just wait. She's
controlled. Now. She is an asset. She isn't at one way or
the other. She's an asset. So we'll see where she pops up. And
then we'll know a lot more about her
that she bailed. Possibly. She may have been told she's not
going to be vice president. She may be get a job in the State
Department,
my nose. And Trump said something you would like John,
we're protecting Saudi Arabia, we're spending $4 trillion,
maybe $5 trillion total in the Middle East over the last 15
years could be more than that. We have to rebuild our country.
Our country's a mess. Our airports are no good. Our roads
are no good. They're falling apart. I was with somebody the
other day one of the biggest trucking companies. He said, Mr.
Trump, we can't even drive on the roads anymore. They're so
bad. They're ruining their trucks. You know, they're
hitting massive potholes. And they're joining it so
bad. He's speaking to you. Yeah, potholes is speaking to you.
That's just beautiful. I love to speak into me speaking to
everybody else who notices these potholes while we're building
roads in Afghanistan.
Okay, now switch. Rachel Maddow? Yes, I had the sit through her
as well and Rachel Maddow came up. I think we can move to this
because of the Guccifer hack of the OPPO file. This is the
document that Guccifer apparently the Russians stole,
and it has all the intelligence on Trump, which I read the whole
document, of course, I've marked it up. It's in the show notes.
The only thing I find a little egregious in it is that the
point number seven on the on the attack plan, the fact that I
have it here, I can read it to you verbatim. Point number seven
being the OPPO file, the seventh strategy prong is to focus on
Trump's personal life, including that Trump, including that
Trump's ex wife accused him of rape, which is true. So that's
about the worst thing that we saw there can do this all the
intelligence they had, it was pretty lame. So Rachel Maddow
comes out and she and a very long segment, cut it down to a
minute and a half. And she now ties in this opposition file
into Trump and Putin. And because of course, this is now
reported by this bull crap company that the DNC hired
because of this hack. Who right did it the way they wrote up
their their document is just funny. Yeah, but whoever was in
there, Lucifer, we'll just call him was in there for at least a
year. But Rachel, man, I was not going to turn this into. Well,
you'll you'll hear it as soon as she it's very edited. But you
get the idea.
So they wanted me to disavow what he said, Oh, yeah.
Timeline reminder. Trump. Putin was the first one to say, I
liked Donald Trump, but he's a he's a he's gonna be a strong
leader. Then Trump came back and said, I love the guy. How can I
not? It wasn't him saying I love the guy. No, I'm sorry. I said
the other way around. Trump started by saying I should talk
to the Russians. I don't mind talking to Putin. Seems like a
good leader. Seems like a good guy. Then Putin came back and
said, Hey, Trump's a great guy. So it was Trump who started by
complimenting. Say we're saying, Hey, I think we could just go
talk to Russia. What do you and I both like? And now it's being
turned around into this immediate disavow what he said,
How dare you call me a genius? How dare you call me? She had a
number of these, which I cut out.
She used Vladimir, never say a thing. Wouldn't it be nice if we
actually got along with Russia? Wouldn't that be good? I mean,
is that a bad thing?
I know what you call it when a person never forgets an insult,
right? Somebody never forgets a slight. You say that's a person
who holds a grudge, right? What do you call it when somebody can
never forget a compliment? A flattering thing about Donald
Trump in the press. Donald Trump decides that is enough to make
Russia a great ally of the United States. That makes Putin
a great leader, a strong leader, somebody who the United States
of America could work with he said this nice thing about
already on a first name basis. Vladimir Vladimir has said nice
things about Donald Trump. And Donald Trump in return has said
such nice things about Vladimir Putin that it's actually
becoming a political liability for him.
He said if you were grading Vladimir Putin as a leader, he
gives him an A. Now I will leave it to the psychiatrist to
explain his affection for tyrants.
In addition to this opposition research document, there are a
few other documents that were leaked online today, including
donor information and policy notes from both Hillary Clinton
and the DNC. But the Donald Trump opposition research packet
is the surprise here, as is the very unsettling prospect that we
are now living through the Russian government and Vladimir
Putin and playing their own role in our American presidential
election.
Eek, eek II,
II. II Russian hater she thinks we should go to war with Russia.
Is that what she is? LOL
LOL LOL, Donald. Donald. That this blood how you're doing?
novela. Donald Donald Donald. Did you see the lesbian on
MSNBC? Her head is fried when I tell it as mad as great, Donald,
you're good to go.
Chris Hayes.
Yeah, you know what I mean? So,
okay, yeah.
Oh, this is okay. Then I'm done as a week? Of
course. Yes, she's she's, I don't know if anyone watches her
much. But she's weak.
She's very weak. Now. This one was frightening to see. From
from any angle you look at it was frightening to see Bill
Clinton on Bloomberg. And being asked a question that has been
asked of Hillary Clinton. She answered it the same way. But
this guy was not letting up. This was, you know, they had
this big Clinton thing, Big White House thing. Everyone was
talking. And so this was behind the scenes, the Bloomberg
question is obvious, and then listened carefully.
This is him into a party or something in that White House?
No, this
was they had a big they had a big symposium. And everyone was
speaking Joe and the president. Everyone was talking except
Republicans, of course, was a White House slash Clinton Global
Initiative. I think just
looking forward to what I think you probably expected hope will
happen next November. What happens to your initiative,
Clinton Global Initiative, if your wife is President?
Well, I think right now, I just want to say what Hillary did
well, let's cross that bridge when we come to it. If she wins,
we'll have to think about it there clearly.
But he's he now he's avoiding the question by saying, well
become soon yeah, when it comes time, we'll cross that bridge.
Although, I mean, come on. Are you in November? I'm sure you
have some plans in place.
Politics is different from what I do. I mean, I, you know, I
just try to get partners together and make something good
happen. The government should do more of that the end of the
President has tried to involve more people from the private
sector and a lot of his decision making. Yeah, that's not gonna
fly, you have to be careful to avoid actual or potential
conflicts of
interest, the issue because of the people have raised that even
Donald Trump's raise that and things like that, and, and lots
of things get raised. But that gets dicey. Or, you know, we're
like this president,
and we're gonna think we'll think very clearly about it. And
we'll do the right thing. We'll try it and explain it to the
American people, but I'll have to wait. First, I don't believe
in counting your chickens before they hatch. And so let's see how
this election unfolds. But there will clearly be some changes in
what the Clinton Foundation does and how we do it. And we'll just
have to cross that bridge when it comes to
Okay, so this crossing that bridge when we come to it is
what Clinton Hillary has been saying that bill was so
downtrodden in this interview, that I believe he knows there's
only one way to fix the problem. If Hillary Clinton becomes
President Bill has to die. That's the only way the Clinton
Foundation can continue in his current manner. And I think he
knows it. Like, I'm not counting my chickens too quickly. But
we'll see what other option is there?
Well, he's got to be. We've discussed this before a lot. And
I we still have our kind of a running bet on when what's the
opportune moment? Yeah. And I've said close, it's got to be an
October surprise. It's got to be something that just shuts trump
up. And well, I
would also shut up the the problems with the we aren't
going to ask any more because everyone's going to be all you
know, this October is going to be quite interesting and see if
this if we can get through it. There was a vigil not so sure if
you're aware of what you're describing, is a good analysis.
I'm not so sure he's all in with this idea.
Oh, he's very sullen and downtrodden. I think he's like,
Oh, crap, I don't know what to do. You should watch the
interview, he does not look happy about these questions.
Now, there was a vigil at Mizzou University of Missouri, for
Orlando, there were lots of vigils in Austin in New York and
San Francisco. I mean, there was everyone we're going to stop
this with love and come together and I'm all for it. I'm all for
the love and Kumbaya. But what happened at University of
Missouri was, to me and out rage. So this is the stage,
there's a number of students on the stage. This is the vigil for
Orlando for the our LGBT brothers and sisters in the
community who were affected by this.
I was really nervous to get up here because there's a lot of
white people in the crowd. And that wasn't a joke. I wish this
many people came out to our racial demonstrations and our
Black Lives Matter movement. How are you? How are you? We're on
stage. I don't want to stand up here and be angry because this
isn't. This isn't for me. This isn't for you. It's it's for the
people that we lost. And the people we may lose tomorrow, and
the people we lost yesterday. But I thought I'd take the
moment to just like list out some facts that many of you
probably don't know. Because you're white. I'm tired of the
black and white dichotomy that happens every time we talk about
race or anything that goes on in our country.
At least you said at least she said our country but she's
hijacking this for racial issue. Yeah. It was a
time to consider the shades in between like mine. And I as much
as it is awesome that there's so many people here today, but like
who are you really here for? So, brother
as bad. Now people are going Hey, hold on. We're here for
everybody. Stop hijacking. Oh, no, no, hey, no, no, we're to
blame everybody. We are here to support. Sorry. I asked you to
please. Just please,
I love you so much right now for getting up here and being
absolutely your voice
doesn't matter. And right now it matters.
Only about black lives matter. It was really insulting. And
people were outraged at that at that rally. But not as outraged
as I was. If this was no and I'm gonna kick it back to you for a
while that this White House Clinton thing whatever the hell
it was. Oprah was hosting. And she had our first lady Michelle
Obama onstage and they were talking so you know the kind of
just having a little moment there on stage. This is
a United State of Women. There are a lot of cool men out here.
I love the present give it up for the brothers not a cool man
out here brothers for the men out here just
white guys need not apply said
brothers elements and men and yet we have to harken back. And
remember that Michelle and Oprah don't really get along.
No, not at all, but they got along fabulously here.
Sounds like one of them contradicted the other because
one of them said brothers and I wouldn't say wait men. Yes.
Michelle said brothers. Oprah says men but then I love to
give it up for the brothers article. Get outta here for the
for the men out here. What can men do leaving here? Be better?
Now, I just want to say, a hill. Exactly. I thought for a moment,
I thought this is out of context. You know, it's out of
context, she gets a joke. It's funny because, of course if I if
you and I were on stage, he said, Hey, what do you want to
say to the women out there be better? You'd be tar and we were
laughing about it, we'd be tarred and feathered. I'd
be better at everything. Be be better fathers. Good.
So okay. I can understand, especially if she was talking to
the brothers be better fathers, but they're talking to all men.
Like, okay, that makes little sense in context. But no
Lord just being good fathers who love your daughters and are
providing a solid example of what it means to be a good man
in the world, showing them what it feels like.
That is that Michelle? Thomas Michelle? Yes, Michelle. Yeah,
if you're gonna be a good father, you don't you're not a
good father to your daughter. You're a good father to your
daughters and your sons. This is a vague reference to Obama
himself.
Oh, yeah. Like to be loved.
That not vague, specific, because
the greatest gift that the men in my life yes. gave to me. And
we've talked about this. Yes, yeah, fact that I've never
experienced abuse at the hands of any man in my life. And
that's sad to say that that's a rare reality. So men can be
better at that. Men can be better husbands, you know, which
is be a part of your family's life. Do the dishes, you know,
really babysit your children. You don't babysit your own
children, you know, be engaged. You know, don't just think going
to work and coming home makes you a man and being a father
being engaged, all that stuff is important. Be a better employer.
You know, when you are sitting at a seat of power at a table of
any kind, and you look around and you just see you use just
you and a bunch of men around the table on a golf course
making deals and you allow that to happen. And you're okay with
that be better be better be better be
better be better be better be better be better.
She insane. Yes, he better be better. I could go on, but I'm
not. You apparently you get the point, fellas. Right?
Yeah, we suck. We suck. We could stop golfing,
stop golfing and making deals on the golf course you suck the way
it's done in certain businesses.
Yeah, no, no, you suck. If you don't do that. I mean, I think
it was all about the president the way I
heard it. Right. Was that one last night on the golf course a
lot.
Not to be fair, to be fair, I believe this conference was
about women. But still, I mean, if you if you
if you just replace like she's bitching about about Obama?
Yeah.
But but to say this about men in that context is incredibly
sexist, and generalizes. And it's, it's messed up. It doesn't
make me feel good at all. I think I'm a very good man. I
think you're a good man. Could we do better good and sure, but
everybody can do better. But I'm here to then say wash the
dishes. So what if I said as a man I said, Hey, fix the
carburetor. You know, that would be stereotyping
operator, what car comes with a carburetor anymore? Check the
gallon.
I need to be a better man. Clearly, you know what I'm
saying? You get my point. That's not okay.
Your point. It was a sexist rant.
Joe Biden was at this thing. And he he was funny.
That's why one of the most important things we did in the
Violence Against Women Act was to articulate the basic moral
principle that every single woman has a fundamental right to
live her life free of violence. I remember when we did the act.
When we were debating, I said if a woman in this audience got up,
stripped down, Stark making and walked over to the United States
Capitol.
They'd shoot her right
to be arrested for indecent exposure. Watch, but no man,
even in that circumstance, has the right to touch her. No man
has a right to touch her. Period. This is period period.
This is the guy who comes behind women rubs their shoulders and
says What does he say? Nice
fabric. That's that's build that does that.
No, that's Joe. He just said to Joe is always rubbing women from
behind mounting says nice fabric. No, that was your joke.
Who was your punch line? I left a hole big enough to drive a
Mack truck.
It was Bill Clinton that says nice fabric. I've never said
that. That I could be right. I could be wrong. I could be
wrong. No, you're wrong. I'm okay. I'm wrong. And it is my
joke and but it's not really a joke, is what he does. He gets
some triggering mechanism for something like Mk.
But Joe is the one who's always touching women.
Yeah, no Joe does that. Well, so does the remember George Bush
when he went behind of all people? Germany's Chancellor and
when you started rubbing her shoulders and she took her hands
and threw a mole to him offer. I know beautiful so these people
are all insane. Yeah, I'd say. So we have a I have a pre clip
we can play. And why don't we Why don't we take a break? No,
no, no, we got a pre clip
pre clip, a pre clip. What is it? Does that need a clip wheel?
Or does just that just means
that no, it means a clip of a clip of a
tie while you're looking it up. Spin the wheel.
This is a clip that's should have the word donation in it.
Here it is people are donating more
people are donating more.
And people aren't only spending more on leisure activities. A
new report shows that Americans also donated more than $373
billion in 2018 with the majority of that money goes into
religious and educational organizations
that's us. What religious and educational that's us. Yeah,
but how come where's our check? That's what I'm wondering I want
to check back to you now you think all that's important no
way here's what you're gonna be talking about at the water
cooler.
World Health Organization now says there is no conclusive
evidence that drinking coffee causes cancer. That reverse is a
25 year old warning. Instead the WHO says the real issue is
temperature. If you routinely drink anything that's very hot,
about 150 degrees or more there's limited evidence it
could lead to cancer of the esophagus Hi. Rap. I love
it. Number of bullcrap reports they kept putting out this week
it was like
they needed anything they could distract people with they we got
to come on the show.
Before we get to the donations, let's go to eat whole grains and
never die.
Doctors at Harvard say eating more whole grain may help you
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But a beautiful world we live in here is the most underreported
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President Obama met with the Dalai Lama today despite China's
warnings that it would damage us Chinese ties. Beijing accuses
the spiritual leader of Tibet Buddha's of campaigning to split
the region from China. The White House released a photo of the
meeting but allowed no other coverage.
Wow,
this is against China was you know they really knuckled under
the China's demands. This is the beginning of the report. They
said you can't do this. You had this meeting. It's gonna hurt
our relations. So they kind of had a secret meeting. Yeah.
And that was exactly 18 seconds the democracy now spent on it,
which have been China Dalai Lama. Are you kidding me? This
is that's a pretty big story.
It's a huge story. But no, no.
No, but no, no, no. All right.
I'm going to show my son moved by Jonah to no agenda. Imagine
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Kingdom. The funny thing happened on the Thames. Yes,
Britain's EU referendum I love them campaign has taken a
bizarre twist after rivals from both the remain and leave camps
took their increasingly vocal war of words to the waves. In
what's already been branded the Battle of the Brexit in an app
supporters clashed on London's river Thames passing parliament,
one leave trawler reportedly drenched to remain vessel, two
fleets and set sail to complain about EU fishing policy.
60% of Britain's core is no enforcement hands and 60% of
British fishing fleets been scrubbed. So what we're here to
do today is to take the fishing industry story to the capitol
and say to the British people, we're the perfect example of
everything is wrong with the European Union. We need to get
out and we need to be free to charge our own destiny.
The stunt in London came as Britain's finance minister
George Osborne warned the UK faced near 38 billion euro black
hole if it leaves the EU.
Let's take the midrange of what's the impeccably
independent Institute for Fiscal Studies says there would be in
terms of a black hole in the public finance black hole, the
mid range. Not the worst case the mid range is a 30 billion
pound hole in the public finances. And this will be a
permanent and structural hole. And frankly, there are only
certain number of taxes you can put out that are going to raise
the sums required and there any certain number of big government
budgets you can cut and that's the that's the cold reality of
getting the
but the clock appears to be ticking if the remain campaign
is to turn things round. Several latest polls give leave a slight
edge heading into next week's vote.
So it's the Battle of the Brexit on the Thames and now Yeah, I
was gonna say I apologize it was another clip but I just didn't I
don't know what happened
I have a clip too but it's it was but I do have Faraj talking
okay because it was Faraj against Bob Geldof Do you have
that
yes I got both of me in this clip but I want to say some but
the clip you just play which is also reiterated in my clip which
is this this big hole what the British are telling us that the
the stay yeah it's like a
magic money machine the EU
apparently the they're the EU of the EU pays the bill. I mean it
sounds as if the UK is broke and there are welfare state being
supported by the EU. What's that what's going on? Is that because
that's what he said
it's even worse. I've seen the explanation videos like that you
put this we put this much money in it. Look how much money we
come we get back. It's like you put it in a dime $1 comes out.
It's amazing. The EU. That's fabulous.
Well, let's play my version of this. Who ran Of course this is
biased a little bit because it came off of Deutsche Deutsches
Britain's EU referendum campaign turned to a farce today as leave
and remain campaigners clashed on London's River Thames. It was
an eye catching stunt but there was more serious stuff being
slung around in Parliament, finance minister George Osborne
said that he would immediately raise taxes and cut spending if
UK voters take the country out of Europe, and was only eight
days until the vote the country appears to be sailing into some
unchartered waters
of the crusade known as Brexit sailed into its final week
British fishermen took their campaign to leave the EU to the
high seas. a flotilla of vessels teamed up the River Thames to
protest the use fishing quotas. campaigners say the local
industry has been left unable to chart its own course.
Common Fisheries mental editing based on a principle of equal
access to a common resource, that's the legal wording. And
what that means is the United Kingdom owns the biggest
resource therefore we have to share what is ours with
everybody else. And that's it.
Bass musician and philanthropist Bob Geldof part of a group of
remain supporters joined the war of words by attacking the UKIP
leader.
Second largest quota for fishing after Denmark sort of floored
Nigel
dry land Britain's finance minister up the ante with a dire
warning that he'd have to introduce an emergency budget
with tax hikes and spending cuts where
the rest is repeated. But what's interesting is that Geldof
thinks that Great Britain is fine because they're a second on
they're not even first on their own resource to fishing. They're
second to Denmark and then there's a bunch of other they
all have quotas you can only pull out so many fish and
whatever sort of for the for the meat, you're eating you
requirements. And it's like wait a minute, they're second to
Denmark when Denmark get to be number one to pull the fish out.
Smaller country. Yeah,
it's EU regulations man is beautiful. And by the way,
thanks that's great Bob Geldof is a gun for hire. And he's a
failure. How's Africa doing Bob? Then we end all the problems in
Africa. We are the world Do They Know It's Christmas time?
Please. Now that guy's a douche everyone knows everyone hates
him. The government still thinks oh yeah call in sir Bob Hill fix
it sir Bob. Fix it. Yes, sir. Bob's or Bob can fix it.
I want to play something. It's a little a little different. But
it's
still Brexit because I got two more things. Oh, no, I
you know, if you're on Brexit, I want you to finish. Yeah, I
got a question. Because I turned on Dvorak Horowitz unplugged
last night, you know, it's like, well, for like, quarter to two.
And I think I heard you say, um, John C. Dvorak. And I woke up
and it was morning. Did you guys talk about this? Yeah. I mean,
this has absolutely nothing to do with anything fundamental
macroeconomics central bank policy. This is entirely fear
about how close the EU referendum vote appears to have
gotten over the last few days from the polls and people just
not wanting to put on risk and looking for safety.
Does that mean that we think that we're going to bounce
higher in what just over 10 days not just under 10 days time off?
The question here is the German 10 year sovereign bond when
negative for the first time
we did talk about it?
Okay, good. Then I'll put so this is Elsa from CNBC Europe
and she's saying hey, well, will it bounce back after the vote,
and she's obviously fully considering that. It will be a
vote for stay instead of leave. The vote
goes through. Well, I think as long as that vote goes through,
and you still have a vote for remain I expect 10 to 20 basis
points higher within a matter of days on the buttons on the back
of that, but I think that the flip side and the risk, and this
is why you can't really position on to that is that if that were
to fail, and if the leave camp were to win, I'd see buttons
trading in a negative 20 to negative 40. Range.
Okay. So your analysis or you guys talked about? I
would agree with that. Yeah. I think they want to do they like
the idea of negative interest? Because it means you have to pay
the bank to hold your money. Would you please hold my money?
I'll pay you. Yeah. Which is kind of done with fees anyway,
to him to a little extent because you don't get any
interest in you pay fees. So you were actually with most checking
and banking accounts, savings accounts today. If there's fees
that are incorporated and and many business checking accounts
definitely have a fee. So be as high as 1020 30 bucks, you're
paying negative interest rates, because you're not getting any
interest? I can assure you, no, so you're paying, you're right
now we're in negative interest rates at some sort, but they
haven't been institutionalized. In the bond market, like they
are being done. And they wanted to try this in Greece. This is
like a banking experiment. Which brings me which I have one
more. One more. I have one more. One more, it's still in finance
and banking. Sec sent me this who watches CNBC a lot. This is
Bruce Richards from Marathon asset management. And He's the
Angry at this whole Brexit thing, because if you
pull their people in their countries, we believe that we
believe that they are also not in favor of EU, it doesn't mean
that you open it up to a referendum like Cameron's done.
We think that was very ill advised to let the people vote
at a moment in time where they should be members are not
members, after 50 years of work. And being a member of the EU,
this is something that should be decided by the legislative body,
the parliament by a powerful people shut up.
Yeah, that was a good one. I shouldn't be able to vote. Yeah,
you shouldn't be able to vote and doesn't matter on democratic
operation. Anyway, the EU it's it's done. You know, it's this
is just the bureaucracies taking over the world, in in, in
advance of one world government. That's the way I see it. And I
think that the propaganda machines that they have are
probably better than the other ones. And that's going to I
don't think this vote is going to make it and like you said, if
it does, we'll just do it again. And let's do it again to do all
do over now, they've already said they have a mechanism. If
it's too close to call, there'll be a do over if the margin of
error, stupid, there'll be a do over that I will give the no
agenda producers. My tip is we talked about finance, I don't
know anything about it. But I guarantee you Bitcoin will hit
1000 Just before the vote, which is when if I had something if I
was trading, I'd sell them was going to hit 1000. Right up,
it's already at 718 hours, I mean, some crazy amount, it's
been going up and you'd be good to sell then but maybe sell half
because if it is a leave, it's going to go through its old lows
or highs of 1200 something or other. It's what shows it's not
really good as a currency. But as an investment vehicle, this
thing is on fire.
Now, so he kind of fitting into this as we talked about the
banking and the bankers, I did like to screw us and do all the
rest of it. This guy Thomas Frank shows up on the news,
because he got a new book. He's got a good publicist and
publishers pushing this book. And he's a liberal fashion
liberal classic Democrat, and he wrote this book called listen
liberal, where he bitches about the current direction of the
Democrat Party, Hillary and the whole rest of it in a very, I
thought was a great way and something that we've always
said. We've talked about this, I think probably since the
beginning of the show, that where you want to go find your
rich people. You go find some Democrats, they're the ones who
Ponsor Democrats, the Hurst's are Democrats, everybody in
Silicon Valley, Warren Buffett, the Warren Buffett's a Democrat
Gates Foundation's a Democrat. You have John Doerr, big
democrat and a big Democrat supporter of Hillary and
whoever. So let's let's
just look at that list they got from people who donated a
million dollars to her that's a cool list. Yeah. Which Yeah,
their email if all the emails are on it. No, no, John. Oh,
this is a great.
Put it out. Send him a solicitation for the no agenda
show. It's a beautiful couldn't find it. Oh, I
haven't. I haven't. I haven't.
Okay. Thomas Frank. This is the Thomas Frank Listen, liberal.
Just people didn't do we have part two. But this part one,
the Democratic Party, the sort of leadership faction of the
Democratic Party isn't really at their core bothered by
inequality. They think that to a certain degree it reflects the
way things ought to be. This is because the Democratic Party
isn't the leadership of the Democratic Party is not who we
think they are. It's a different group of people serving a
different agenda than what we then their brand identity tells
us
that and you and you describe them as pretty much the opposite
of the working class the blue collar workers in this country.
That's yeah,
that's not who they're That's not who they're interested in
anymore. I mean, once upon a time, say that Franklin
Roosevelt, you know, Lyndon Johnson or something like that?
Yes, absolutely. That's what the Democratic Party was about. They
were about the middle class of this country. Today, they are
about the professional, managerial, highly educated,
white collar, affluent, suburban class, that's who they identify
with. That's who they, you know, they've, they've, they've sort
of developed this enormous literature, talking about how
this class of people is the pinnacle of history. You know,
this is also the class that they're all themselves that they
themselves are drawn from, you know, they, they talked about
these people all the time. And they see that, you know, this
group of winners is, you know, the the ultimate the sort of
number one democratic constituency, they think that
that class of people deserves to be where they are that this is
this, that their status is something that they have earned.
It's a pretty harsh criticism. And you're basically saying that
the leadership of the Democratic Party, Silicon Valley, the
academics, you know, the folks on Wall Street who are Democrats
really don't care about the working class. Yes,
that's exactly. That's exactly right. It's the more shocking
thing is that the Democrats basically are a party that
identifies itself with Wall Street, and that identifies
itself with Silicon Valley. And that identifies itself with Big
Pharma, with these, these industries that they are forever
talking about, and saluting because they're so creative.
They're so innovative, you know, this is where the sort of these
knowledge based industries where the, you know, the kind of
professionals that Democrats see themselves as representing this
is where those kinds of people are founded. So they look at
Wall Street, and they don't see this kind of colossal villain,
or, you know, the way someone like Franklin Roosevelt would
have understood Wall Street instead, they see classmates
they see their peers.
Hmm.
Sounds like a good book. Yeah. Now. Now this is PLAY CLIP two
is very short. And it kind of finishes off, I thought it was
like a punch line at the end. So I let let this added this.
And you end the book, Thomas Frank on a pretty pessimistic
note, because you say until Democrat, the leaders, leaders
in the Democratic Party understand the role they've
played in bringing things to this place, things aren't going
to get better.
That's Yes, that's exactly right. I mean, because it's it's
clear that the Republican Party, it's clear from my point of
view, I should say, that the Republican Party with its
dedication to markets and anyone's philosophy of, of
entrepreneurs is not really interested in inequality. But
what's shocking is when you realize that the Democrats
themselves aren't really interested in it, either, that
the kind of liberalism that you see in the Democratic Party is a
liberalism of the rich
guy. Yeah. Yeah. Please clap.
I always like to hear people voicing our opinions.
It's always night. Well, I got some doozies for you then. First
of all, I want everyone to know that on Sunday, I will have a
full rundown of the National Defense Authorization Act, which
is 1666 pages long. Nice to see the 666 stare me from the title
bar the whole time. And just to let you know the some of the
stuff that's in here, a definition of directed energy
weapons systems. In this section, the term directed
energy weapons systems means military action involving the
use of directed energy to incapacitate damage or destroy
enemy equipment, facilities or personnel at ray guns beautiful.
Yay. But even more important when they define electronic
warfare, which we'll hear about in just a minute. The term
electronic warfare warfare means military action involving the
use of electromagnetic and directed energy to control the
electromagnetic spectrum or to attack the enemy and it includes
electromagnetic spectrum warfare, which encompasses
military communications and sensing operations that occur in
electromagnetic, operational domain. And then they go into
all and this is what I'll be talking about on Sunday. It's
pretty creepy. There's a lot of other cool stuff in this in this
document. Very briefly, on cyber
cyberspace is now officially a war zone. According to NATO.
This means cyber attacks against a member nation could trigger an
Article Five collective response by all 28 states involved. How
about that? So if you if you attack the US with a cyber
attack, it could trigger Article Five, which means we all turn
around and go and kick your cyber ass.
The declaration was made after a meeting of NATO Defence
Ministers in Brussels. Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg says
cyberspace is the new battlefield
or attack can trigger collective defense. Because we regard cyber
attacks as something that can cause a lot of damage and can
can be very dangerous. And as I said, you want to imagine The
conflict without cyber dimension.
NATO is already working on cyber defense experts from 50 member
countries work here at this center in Tallinn in Estonia.
It's estimated they deal with 147 million suspicious actions
each day.
Of course, yeah. Okay, port scanning. Nice. Little bit of F
F Russia. Now, speaking of people we like hearing when they
speak our language, this is former ambassador to Russia,
Ambassador Matlock, talking about Ukraine's problem and
notice what he's saying and how he gets cut off for saying it.
Stupid old coot Shut up.
I think one thing we tend to forget is that there is only one
country that can solve Ukraine's problems. And that is Ukraine.
The basic problem is that Ukraine is a deeply divided
society. I have when I was ambassador to the Soviet Union.
Whenever I went to Ukraine, I always gave my speeches in
Ukrainian language. I've been following things that happened
to Ukraine since I was a high school student, and did
reporters on the role during the war. I know this country. And I
also know that when they got independence, their borders were
to some degree artificial Crimea had only been added by Fiat
without consulting anybody in the 1950s. And so, Ukraine, I
went there to advise a group in the late 90s, on national
security from the other former colleagues, from our National
Security Council. We were telling them how we organize our
national security. The Ukrainians came back and said,
Look, you're talking about foreign policy. Let me show you
what our problem is. And they showed us sides of the last
election, very evenly divided almost entirely on the west on
one side, and on the other side, in the east and south. Now, and
this is in every election. Also, they had a constitution, which
was not a Federal Constitution. It was unitary, a president who
won maybe by just one percentage of the vote named every
governor. And you know, where the violence started. After the
my Dawn, it started in the west by then taking over the
governorships. The corrupt president that they got rid of
would never have been elected if Crimea had not been part of, of
Ukraine. There are a lot of issues here a very deep history.
And the basic problem is Ukraine. Yes. Russia has
intervene, just as we take a very close in, but it's in
countries to us. But we got over the time. We're gonna have to
solve it. Right. Our our involvement tends to have a
negative.
Yes, Ambassador, we're going to need to go to Mr. Tedesco like
to cut him off. He
hasn't negative
boom, cut his mic. Cut his mic. Shut up. Yeah. Nice.
Yeah, that's good. That's good. I like it.
There was one other thing that happened, as the FCC won an
important ruling regarding the net neutrality rules. There was
there's multiple lawsuits running and, you know, it looks
like the FCC took a win. And, you know, how long did we go on
about this net neutrality, how it was bad. And I'll just remind
you of one thing, the most important thing that we on this
program and within our intelligence network take issue
at is the term legal content and legal technologies. And legal,
the thing also legal, the data traffic. So you can talk about
packets back and forth and peering and data and bandwidth
limiting whatever the danger is in this these terms, which are
in the document and it's very specific, that ISPs cannot cut
off regulate or do anything with legal traffic or legal content.
So that's very problematic, but how does the New York Times
explain it? Well, they put together a little bullcrap video
for the morons communication
Commission's new net neutrality rules, reclassify high speed
internet as a public utility that goes to ensure an open and
equal internet for all content, otherwise known as net
neutrality. When you download content from the internet, it
arrives in packets of data. Think of the packets as literal
packages. Let's say you want to watch a Netflix movie, which is
10 packages big. First you order. But before Netflix ships,
those packages have to go through a sorting facility in
this analogy, that's an Internet service provider like Verizon or
Comcast. Now what net neutrality means is that all packages must
be delivered at the same rate and the new FCC rules are in
place to make sure that happens. broadband providers want to keep
control over the delivery rates. But the federal court rule that
as a utility, high speed internet should be equally
accessible to all Americans, this decision may lead to even
more rigorous regulations of providers like Comcast and
Verizon, and fuel their legal battle with the federal agency.
Now, while this may be celebrated as a big win in the
tech, horny circles, this is one of the worst things that could
happen to the Internet. In fact, it's the beginning of the end,
at least for the free and open web as we know it. And there are
other things. I mean, even Bitcoin may be regulated as
illegal traffic torrent, the illegal transfer, sure, any
blockchain type stuff, illegal traffic. So good luck. Good luck
with that. Yeah, it's
gonna be a while but they're going to do it. Yeah. I'll tell
you, the thing that's going to be one of the things that's
going on, especially with the cord cutters, and nobody likes,
is actually plays well into the Comcast hands. I don't see them
complaining that much now, is that you're not going to be able
to torrent stuff, you're not going to be able to download the
last season a person of interest because you didn't see it on the
TV. And but you can get it you can get it from a number of
sites, they have it and you want to watch it. So you can just
torrent it and you put it on a you know, put it on, watch it on
your television that way. No, that's done that's going to be
over because that is illegal. It's an illegal download. It's
illegal traffic. It's illegal traffic. And they're going to
eventually figure out that the tauren protocols are going to
have just have to be stopped because zooming stopped, does it
and it's not just a few sites with a few things. Pretty much
anything you want from the entertainment world, not
necessarily in advance, I suppose are some sites that have
it stuff in advance, you can go get in Nova, some Malaysian site
might have a some of these movies before they actually come
out. I'm
gonna tell you that even using a VPN will be considered illegal
traffic.
I think that's a possibility. Now VPN, you can argue and I
think they will. And it's gonna take years before this is
resolved. And
I'll tell and I'll tell you why how they'll argue it. The A lot
of this title to was argued on the comparison between telephone
numbers and IP addresses. is mind boggling. That is what
convinced the court that it's that it should be regulated like
telephony, because an IP address is unique. It's unique, just
like we of course,
have a phone number. It's a phone number.
And you know, ipv6 is just a longer phone number. You know,
it's just a really long phone number. So
yeah, this is insanity. But everyone's lapping it up lap,
lap lap, because they just don't want to we don't want to face
the truth. And I asked, I don't want to
pay I don't want to pay more for Netflix because it could cost.
I have two questions I asked commonly. One is, if
everything's supposed to be all net neutral and everything, how
come some ISPs and some ISPs have the the Netflix network
appliance that's sitting right there at their central office,
and they're feeding their customers, Netflix movies, quick
and easy. And other operations do not have the appliance. And
so you're not getting the same unit? This is not neutral, this
is on neutral. And the second is when do you have the example?
Because the one they like to use is Oh, yeah, because Comcast is
going to slow down everything so they can make you use their
stuff is when it when has this been done? I mean, if there was
examples of this, and you could point the finger Oh, they've
been screwing me with this and that and you know, there's been
shorting me my my bandwidth, because they don't want me doing
something which the government now can do by the way, they'll
be able to not give you something you want, which might
be any you know, a copy of personal interest episode. What
is it happened that you can point the finger at an example
is no examples of these things that are bitching about that
everyone's a sucker. They fell for it.
Yes, you're gonna get a lot of emails about people with
examples. So good luck with that. john@devora.org don't send
it to me please.
It's not going to do it. The examples won't be valid. It'd be
something they had like my example when I had my Comcast
issues. And it turned out gold track back to a squirrel. Love
that. Did they come out and find the squirrel that not through my
connection but they did eventually took a year? And I
suppose I could complain about that. But you know, they took
care of it and is done. I'm fine. No squirrel.
All right. Well, we're way over time you want to bring the
camera clip blitz but I'm not going to get just get these
things out of a couple of these. There's short,
let's not do a blitz. We'll do a blitz on Sunday, but just do one
or two just so we can get out nicely and make people feel good
about life.
You will have to be something feel good about.
It's been pretty depressing so far.
I don't think so. Okay.
Let's go with the background check a diet of data of
something. DIANNE FEINSTEIN,
California Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein has released
new statistics showing more than 90% of known or suspected
terrorists who have attempted to buy a gun since 2004. have
passed a background check and been cleared to do so. The
Government Accountability shows
before they continue, there's also a new meme I want to
dimension. Okay, the terrorist loophole. This is the new one
that terrorists used to be heard that this used to be the gun
show loophole, which is not a loophole because you cannot
purchase a gun at a gun show without online. It has to go
through a federal firearms dealer who's licensed. So it's
it's categorically not true. Now, can you buy something in a
parking lot? Yeah, you could buy something on the east of the 35
in Austin. Sure. But this they've changed it from the gun
hole loop the gun show loophole to the terrorist loophole Be on
the lookout for it.
Clear to do so. The data from the Government Accountability
Office shows between 2004 and 2015. nearly 2500 people on the
watch list apply to purchase weapons. nearly 2300 of them
were approved. Last.
There was good news prove again.
Just there was I was gonna say so. Okay, go ahead. Go
ahead. I'll come up with a let's just play this last clip, which
is good news is the Oakland violence is I'm glad we're
number three.
According to the most recent FBI statistics, Oakland has more
violent crime than any other US city except for Detroit. And
Memphis was in this Supercharged atmosphere that city officials
took an unprecedented step. They decided to have outsiders
analyze their officers behavior, knowing the results would not be
pretty ready.
I wanted to say that regarding the gays and guns and all this
stuff, Austin would actually be a perfect place to do this.
Since we have open carry laws. It would be great if if everyone
who has a long gun a rifle and aka Ben a ar 15 Whatever you
have long gun put on your rainbow shirt. Let's go down to
Fourth Street and dirty six and let's go stand in front of our
our gay clubs and let's go protect our gays. So it'd be
great. I think it'd be awkward.
Do you have any no gun zones in Austin?
Oh my gosh. Well, they had the big argument about the the
university ut it was a no gun zone. Now that's changed. Yeah.
There were a couple other minor things I wanted to say. Oh, yes.
Two things. First of all, a tip if all of this stuff is
bothering you, and you're not having you're having trouble
sleeping, here's a tip. I saw an interview with Moby Moby.
No. Yeah, I know Moby. Yeah, he's a
dick. He said Oh, bot deck and I have never liked him never. But
he did some really cool he released an album for free. Of
course, you've a Spotify or anything you're paying for it
anyway. But you could download free off iTunes and I think you
can download free from his website. And it's it's eight
hours of ambient sleeping tunes. The ambient sleeping noises that
he put together to help himself sleep and I've been using it for
the past week. I gotta tell you cuz I used to normally I'll have
Mozart very soft while I'm sleeping. But this is Oh my god
like a baby.
And let's probably get some messaging going on to you'll be
very interesting in the weeks to come and
pay attention to me really? Well, that's important. Pay
attention to me.
All right, I think we've wrapped I should mention that the
shooter in Orlando was also scoping out disney world as a
possible target, which really takes the gay element out of the
whole thing. Yeah, it'd be bold crap, too.
Well, I'm sure we'll know even more by Sunday, and hopefully
there'll be other things to discuss. And if anyone has any,
any eyewitnesses or anything from the alligator, toddler kid,
I'd love to see that. That'd be great. Oh, and of course, we
will probably be discussing football football euro 2016
Soccer if the Russians are getting screwed over and there's
international practices over the the Russians are gonna get
disqualified and kicked out F Russia. You guys suck. Saturday.
We have another. Now the Warriors Cavaliers. playoffs
have been tainted by the league and So now we have to watch a
couple more games one, they still haven't won nothing. They
should have won it, but they told you,
I told you, I told you. You didn't believe me.
I didn't believe because I didn't realize how corrupt the
NBA actually is. I should have realized when they when they
busted a couple of those referees for fixing games.
They're gonna make this thing go seven. Looks like
we'll be back on Sunday with more deconstruction for you.
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he mentioned the phrase
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shabby corn and Bushnell retardation of a three year old,
ignoring me I'm going to embarrass Trump at the moment is
in a way representing a shadow of our collective consciousness.
At the end of the day, they're backing, you know, they're
backing
Come on, at the end of the day,
at the end of the day job, if someone wants to get anyone they
can get at the end of the day, and at the end of the day, it's
more important that we have entertainment
at the end of the day, and so
at the end of the day, who's going to pay for the real loan,
it's going to be taxpayer money
at the end of the day. And at
the end of the day, that's going to be up to Valerie Jarrett. At
the end of the day, I mean, at the end of the day isn't that at
the end of the day,
at the end of the day, all this money is owed to bankers. At the
end of the day,
at the end of the day, I think it's good. At the end of the
day, and at the end of
the day, as Americans, what we always do is we always say the
end of the day. So at the end of the day, it's not actually the
health care, it's the end, the end of the day, and then the
day, at the end of the day, you can't deny I had to put less gas
did at the end of the day, to the end of the day. We're all
anti Semites at the end of the day, and at the end of the day
you get I think it's 4% at the end of the day, for us to run
together at the end of the day, you kind of forget right? At the
end of the day, the day job you and I are both in the audience
business at the end of the day,
and he ended the day. And so at the end of the day, she could
say Hey, I told her I told you so at the end of the day, the
day I will see at the end of the day Sarah wants that together
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