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What we're doing it for you,
Obama, Adam curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Thursday, April 7 2016. The
time once again for your good no

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nation media assassination. This
is episode 814. This is no

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agenda, deconstructing
propaganda. He already had to

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Panama and broadcasting live
from the Capitol the drone Star

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state here in FEMA Region six
Austin Tejas in the morning,

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everybody. I'm Adam curry

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and from Northern Silicon
Valley, where I've returned from

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a trip where it was 26 degrees,
hitting California when it was

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86 degrees. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Raglan buzzkill, the mom,

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thank you for the AccuWeather
report. Jet as fast as 26 Yes.

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20. Cold.

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And did you have that? 86

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Did you have that wind? That
cold biting wind flowing through

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one day?

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Yes. That is not good. Oh, no.
Were you approached GISTIC 2016

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There's not a lot of wind. It's
fine. You can wander around. But

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when they get that biting when

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was the sun out though? Was it
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It was 26 with the with the
mixed sun? No, that's no good.

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Hey, welcome back. And but there
was such a walk on the sunny

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side of the street and you could
pretend you

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know better. Welcome back. Happy
birthday.

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Happy birthday to you. Yes.
Birthday all ships and sea

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boots. Oh, I'm sorry.

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I sent you a text. Did you get
it once and you happy birthday?

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Did you say happy birthday.

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I said Happy Birthday you man of
advanced ages. Because what I

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said something like this. So how
did the meetup go? I saw

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pictures.

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I mean, we can discuss the
meetup now or we can discuss it

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after the first donation segment
because there's donations

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involved in there not in the
segment to talk about and the

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way you did. That's the way to
do that. Very separate a

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separate segment about meetup
and how it went. All right.

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Anything else you'd like to say
about New York and before we get

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into some other things cold.

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It was grungy as usual. I bought
a brand new windbreaker blazer

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kinda not a blazer, but a
windbreaker thing that I

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obviously needed. And I noticed
that when I got back, it's it

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was just we had to wear it all
the time. Yeah.

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You just did it. You didn't have
a warm winter coat and gloves.

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You just had a windbreak I

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had no I had gloves. I had quiet
everything. I'm worried about

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you there seven layers, but I
still need a windbreaker

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me me taking care of you, man.
No,

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windbreakers. So here's the
point I'm trying to make your

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You're distracting me is that as
I got when I got it home to stay

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it well, you could see that it
was in a grimy city. It started

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to pick up the patina of city
grime. Thank you to the

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dry cloth. Oh, that's this guy.
Yeah, I know. Everything gets on

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you in New York. Nasty. I still
have shitting my lungs from

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living in New York. patina. I
think patina is. Yeah. Did you

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receive a gift from one of our
producers? I don't know who sent

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it. But did we mentioned CEU
credits on the show at some

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point.

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I never saw I got no CEU
credits.

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I got 35 tins of success.

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17 of those are mine.

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And then the old fashioned ones
the 10 Don't just boxes, heavy

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ones in here and 35 tins of CEU
credits. I don't know. I don't

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Yeah, it's not something you
just like

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and it's just ended. No note.
No, no, no,

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nothing. No card. I don't
understand. Unless I was high

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and I ordered them myself.
That's possible. But

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oh man. Did I go for another
man? Cigarettes?

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Well, I stayed off for a
Socrative

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I could go for some credit right
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It's a crisis. Right? I can't
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it's a lozenge for your throat
but if you have a cough, cough

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or throat ache,

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or they predate Mentos,

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that's not Mentos. Well, I
stayed up pretty late last night

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to wait for the final tally. We
were hoping would come in at 33.

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If you don't I'm talking about
here's a quick background over

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what happened yesterday in Gitmo
nation, lowlands Dutch

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government may have to
reconsider ratifying a treaty or

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close to European Union ties
with Ukraine after voters

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rejected a partnership deal in a
non binding referendum on

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official results indicates 64%
voted no, the turnout appears to

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have only just passed the
required 30% to validate the

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result of ratification

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cannot proceed as was expected
before. So we have to take a

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step by step approach. We have
now to talk within the cabinet

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with the parliament, with our
European partners, also with the

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Ukraine to see what the
consequences of this decision

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might be.

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I'll just stop it right here.
The Netherlands had a

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referendum. Yes about the
Ukraine Association Agreement

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with the European Union.

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I think before you continue, you
should play my Deutsche availa

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version of the same wrap up
because of course Dortch

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Deutsche Bank is German. Yeah.
And they came to kind of have a

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different attitude about

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this. Can I kind of give you the
background or first or was this

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in your opinion?

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I always I'm satisfied. I think
the backgrounds in here. Okay.

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Have you Were those the European
Union facing a somewhat

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unexpected test tonight, votes
are being counted in the

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Netherlands after a referendum
on a deal that deepens ties

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between the EU and Ukraine.
Euroskeptic groups forced the

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vote after the agreement was
approved by the Dutch

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parliament. Now it's already
been ratified by all other EU

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states, though no vote would not
be binding, it would be an

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embarrassment for the
Netherlands and it would

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underscore growing EU
scepticism. Right now, exit

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polls say 64% of voters have
rejected the deal. But there

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needs to have been a 30% turnout
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As it stands. It's on a knife
edge as they say whether that

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figure has been reached, let's
go down to our correspondent,

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Barbara Veysel. She is in
Brussels. She's monitoring

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everything that's going on next
door in the Netherlands. Good

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evening to you, Barbara. So do
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about whether or not this
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Now we don't know yet. And I
need a crystal ball here to

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figure that out. Because the
pulses have just sort of inched

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up a bit. And I've gone beyond
the 30% special but there still

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is a rather large margin of
error so wide inexplicable.

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Of course, it turned out to be
32 point something percent

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should have

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been 33. Well, it's

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the kind of I don't know if it's
official official yet. But if it

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the reason I wanted to play this
clip, because I'm gonna ask you

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a question, okay.

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Let's play the rest, let's play
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by the Dutch are not able to
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But that's just the way it is.
And so we don't know whether

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it's valid. But the message
behind it is quite clear, as you

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already pointed out in majority
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vote who those who did go to the
poll stations is say no to the

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Ukraine agreement. And that is
rather a clear message for the

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government for Brussels and also
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referendum, I've already started
to open the champagne bottles,

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they say this is good enough for
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we wanted to reach, you can show
the EU that they are not wanted

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by many Dutch voters

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now writing your question.

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Let me throw an additional
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all right. During that report,
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embarrassment. Yes. For the for
the Dutch. Why? A

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number of reasons. One, they're
the last man out 28 countries

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have already ratified this
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European Union have to ratify
it. Moreover, we are right in

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the middle of the six month
Presidency of the Council or the

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prisons the the council EU
Council. By the Netherlands all

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the meetings are there. I mean,
they're running the show, they

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get their six month window. So
this is rather embarrassing.

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Hey, can't you keep your slaves
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Okay, that would explain it.
Yeah, that was kind of baffled

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by that.

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And but of course the
Netherlands is unique. The whole

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point of this referendum. It
really Putin was kind of the the

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hockey puck in the middle
because oh, we can't let we

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can't leave Ukraine go because
then they'll lean towards Putin

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and then you know, Russia will
be on our doorstep. It'd be a

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big problem. Yeah. Basic, all of
the propaganda that we discussed

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in the, in the, the memoranda
that we had uncovered, or that

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we'd received that were hacked
from Ukraine. All of that came

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true. They had the kids singing
in Dutch, the virtuoso violinist

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playing all the while they did
all of that, and it just didn't

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work. So it was about 61 or 62%.
Against the Association

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Agreement. But the they did have
enough people show up for the

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vote. And here's the background.
This is not binding it is just

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an advice from the people. So
the cabinet or the parliament

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does not have to adhere to it.
They can just go ahead as

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planned, which I'm pretty sure
they will. Hello, we saw this

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last time with the with the
Lisbon Treaty in 2007 2008. And

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the Netherlands and France voted
no and then we you know we did

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we did a do over thank you guys
didn't understand the question.

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Let's vote again.

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What's funny To another chance.

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What's interesting about this is
this really irks. The

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Netherlands has a law and a
referendum law, and you can call

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a referendum. But you have to
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signatures in order to call the
referendum. I think it's

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400,000, they had more than the
required amount in that lies

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this 30% thing, which of course,
no one ever expected that to

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work, which is why you put it in
just to placate people that if

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you get enough signatures, you
can have a referendum. But this

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was unexpected that the that
enough citizens would say, hey,

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we don't like this. Now. This is
a referenda are not super common

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in the Netherlands, but they're
going to be they're already

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talking about a referendum about
T tip. So all of these all of

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these deals.

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Well, here's here's the
mechanism that you once this

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once it's established. And
here's when you developed one of

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these systems, the referendum
system being a great example,

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you tried to set up a huge
barrier to entry, which is

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400,000 signatures. Hell yeah.
Especially in a small country,

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especially for guys who started
as bloggers. But once it you

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established the mechanism to get
the 400,000. Now, it's like a

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printing press. Yeah, now you
can keep it going. You can get

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400,000 at the drop of a hat
because it's the same 400,000

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back to him, you can go back to
him, that's

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gonna hit you Well, again, and
again and again and again. And

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all of a sudden, now that thing
is clicking like crazy. So the

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Dutch

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politicians, most of the parties
were for the Association

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Agreement, except for the
socialists and the fame, the

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fame bail on whoever the guys
were who got this referendum

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together. What was it gonna say?

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Your will? Sorry? Yeah.

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You weren't listening. I wasn't
listening to myself, either. As

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the words were coming up, oh,
you're really talking

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about politicians. I got it. I
got I got went to the gym.

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I got it. The politicians who
were for the association

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agreement are now out on trail
today, saying, you know,

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referendum is really bad for
democracy. This is not how our

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democracy should work.

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Shouldn't be listening to the
people. So ever.

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No, that's why they were chosen
representatives. And that's why

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they're all They're allowed.
What is this? I'm supposed to be

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in charge of this. What are you
doing you sue? Now, the crazy

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thing. I read the agreement. I
know, I'm like I'm nuts. This

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thing is not easy to find in its
totality. There's pieces missing

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from publications, you have to
really hunt around this. That's

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a bad sign. It's a very bad
sign, because the main piece

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that was missing is the trade
part. Now I've gotten older

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versions, and I have the
protocols. But really, this is

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about two things. And the
interesting part about this is

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that personally, I believe
there's no vote, although it is

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showing the European Union that
the citizens of the Netherlands

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are unhappy, and I'm sure
they're unhappy by a number of

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things, including migration. And
the banks are now completely

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under control of the financial
union. There's people are mad

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about that. I need B 12. is what
I need today.

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That really need v 12. How the
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was I going usual? My

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fuzzy Well, I was up late last
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this stuff. Okay, so I read the
agreement. And the sad part is

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this agreement actually was it's
pretty good for Europe, of this,

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aside from a number of glaring
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that even makes it funnier. It
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mean, it's you know, Ukraine and
World War Two was the

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breadbasket. You know, this is
they have unbelievable produce,

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they really have two things

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produce, they still can be a
breadbasket along with Georgia

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produce, and pipelines. That's
the two things that are the

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main, the two Ps, the main
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of course, it's a trade
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look at it, which means there
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energy imports, as a lot about
energy and pipelines, it's all

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over the place. And so it's kind
of sad, that, you know, there's

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pretty much a great deal for
Europe on the table. And I'm

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pretty sure Germany is not
friendly in this either. They

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probably don't want to, you
know, they don't want too much

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of

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a ship. Because if you listen to
what you guys want a second to

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part two of this clip, because
these are the Dorji well, and

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people seem to be kind of pro
for this agreement.

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Yeah. I mean, they may be saying
that, but no, that's why I'm

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saying they're the Germans are
for the agreement. That's

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exactly what I'm saying. Yeah,
they are for the agreement.

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Because yeah, they want they
want to they want cheap access

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to the to the gas. Yeah,

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I mean, they may be saying that,
but can they really say that

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Barbara? I mean, we still can't
even say whether or not enough

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people voted. To make the
referendum valid, that certainly

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can't be a success for any
calls, right?

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In a way, yes, it of course,
legally and politically in one

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sense that you're completely
right. Of course, if it's if it

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falls below the threshold, it's
not valid. And everybody can

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say, Oh, this attempt to fell
flat on its face. On the other

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hand, we have to recognise and
many Dutch politicians already

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pointed that out in their first
reactions, we have to recognise

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that a rather large margin of
Dutch voters actually do want to

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show their discontent to the
European Union, be it to

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particularly to the Ukraine
agreement, or more general to

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the functioning of Europe, in a
general sense. So that message

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seems to be quite clear. And it
is very unwelcome in Brussels,

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I'll say. So if you really look
at the at the protocols of the

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agreement, again, it's produce
and pipelines is really my

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takeaway from it. You see very
clearly why it was so important

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that we that we control Ukraine,
and when I say we, I mean the

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United States. I mean, we have
the finance minister in there

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who became Ukrainian overnight,
just to be the finance minister.

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She's American. The the amount
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went into Ukraine from mainly
Chevron, through Victoria

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Nuland, you'll recall, she had
that that little meeting, oh, if

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would tell 10 billion and they
got shale oil contracts. This is

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it really has a lot of resources
that we have already. We've

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staked our claim to. And now we
just want to have it free

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flowing into Europe. So Chevron,
I'll just say that's us, in this

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case, United States and Gitmo
nation so we can have the free

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flow of our oil now that we have
the rights to which we captured

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in through whatever backroom
deals in Ukraine to pass that

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on. Here's the here's the gist
of some of the anomalies that I

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found. Ukraine apparently it has
a pretty big market of fake

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products. And when I say fake
products, I really mean produce

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in this case, two glaring
examples which they will by this

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agreement be able to continue
one is shipping champagne from

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Ukraine into the EU, which of
course is a protected name.

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Is it champagne Is it is it will
say in or Eastern European

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sparkling wine named champagne?
Yes, sir. Or is it grey market?

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Champagne fade?

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No, it is sparkling wine from
Ukraine with the word champagne

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on it, and they will be allowed
to use this.

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No. Yeah, that's in there. They
didn't know but the French don't

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want they don't know. Well,
actually,

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I'll make a crazier for you. Oh,
okay. There's

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there's more complex to use it.

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Okay, I'll give you another
example. Feta cheese. You may

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not fit it. Fetta is protected
in the EU, for the Greek, but

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not even all the Greek. Dairy
Farmers only certain dairy

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farmers are allowed to say make

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any sense feta cheese. If it's
not feta cheese? Well, let me

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say a couple things about feta
cheese.

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Yes, please. You know, I came to
work this morning thinking I

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need to know more about feta.

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Feta cheese is made by a number
of countries. It's a certain

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kind of sour sheep's milk
cheese. And sometimes it's

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blended with goat and sometimes
it's goat and depends. They and

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I've seen it used I don't I
don't know what this is about

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because feta cheese has been
used by the French it's called

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French feta cheese for a long
time. And everybody in the world

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who's a connoisseur of or anyone
who really likes feta cheese

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knows. And everybody knows Yes,
cheapest feta cheese. The

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cheapest feta cheese comes from
Bulgaria. The best betta cheese

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comes from Bulgaria. fine if you
want good feta cheese, you get a

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full Garyun feta cheese right.
But and that's always been

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called fettuccine. That's not

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No no no, it's nothing the
Greeks Oh no, no. In the

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European Union. The name feta
cheese is a protected name may

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only be used just like champagne
may only be used by the approved

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dairy farmers and marketers. In
Greece No. in the European

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Union, it is a protected name.
Oh, okay. Oh,

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okay. So that's a French fed in
the Bulgarian fed ice by the

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Bulgarian mostly is protected.
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they're paying a lot if they say
feta cheese, then they have a

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licence and some money to use.
Correct and it may be Greek feta

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cheese, for all I know. No.

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But Greek feta cheese is good,
but it doesn't compare to the

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Bulgarian

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right? But I'm just saying this
is what's in the agreement and

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they'll be able to keep selling
their Ukrainian feta cheese for

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10 years.

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And by the way, I'll be getting
notes. I can see it already.

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tonnes and you have no idea.

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I'm just reading the doc
chemists, I enjoy the cheese

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break. So yeah, so these are
little things so you can really

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see that it's a trade agreement,
but the

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champagne thing is not going to
go over. This is just another

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irritant to the French. Did you
hear this story over the I guess

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it was just a couple of days ago
yesterday. The French are now

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stopping these tankers. 70,000
gallon tankers coming into

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France from Spain. I know I
loaded cheap wine. And the

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French wine grocery was it goes
through Ryan Grainger that gets

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sorted. They surrounded tanker,
they pull out the truck driver

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and drain the 70,000 gallons
into the sewer.

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I did see a picture of that.
Yes. That was fantastic. That

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was fantastic. Yeah. Can't wait.
We're going there in a couple of

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weeks. Can't wait, can't wait.
But it was interesting that the

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grease gets so screwed in the
deal. You know? Like what else

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can we do to what do you guys
want? And we want to screw

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Greece somewhere off fine.
They're like ugly pimple on

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their ass anyway, who cares? Who
cares? So yeah, so just in my

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evaluation of the deal here will
be great for Europe. This is

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fantastic. Why would they not do
it? And the reason is because

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like a good deal no one read the

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agreement, grainy and Fetta and
Ukrainian champagne and yeah,

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cheap fruits and vegetable oil
and

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gas and gas that doesn't come
from Russia. Yes, gas that

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doesn't come from Russia. Come
on, how gonna

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get Chevron doing a deal.
Chevron's making some money for

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us American shareholders. Yeah,
that's a win win win win.

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But of course what this really
is about even Nigel Farage came

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to the Netherlands and spoke
about himself. He didn't really

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talk. He said, This is just the
appetiser, the Brexit will be

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the main core. So it's kind of I
think it kind of made the Dutch

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people go what what this is
important to us. What are you

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doing? This but I was listening
to Dutch radio, and they had

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these they were doing so they
were doing five second spots.

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Before and after each at the top
and at the bottom of each

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commercial block. Vote yes. For
the for the Ukraine ascension

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association agreement to live to
tomb then commercials

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commercials commercials vote
yes. I mean, it was like that

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vote yes. For the European for
the Ukrainian association

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agreement. Really? Unbelievable.
Huh. And along with that, as far

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as I'm concerned, perfect
timing. Perfect timing. I gotta

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tell you, when my sister who
lives in Amstel Fane, she works

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retail and give a shit. When she
says, Hey, how about those

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Panama Papers? Then? You know,
some propaganda is working?

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Well, I'll say this much for the
proper for the Panama Papers,

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which I should have teased in
the newsletter. This is a very,

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I think this is going to be the
most interesting one topic that

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we'll have on our show. If it
develops, I agree, probably for

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the next six months, because
there's a million documents as

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to what to buy, how many
terabytes of data, all this

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stuff. And we have all sorts of
questions that need to be

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answered before,

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before we trust before we
transition in just the timing of

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it. And we'll believe this
topic, the timing of it was very

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interesting in the three days
ramping up to this referendum.

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The newspapers in the
Netherlands and anything that

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around it, certainly like the
guardian. We're all focused on

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one thing, Panama Papers, Putin
evil Panama Papers, Putin evil

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and the timing of that. Maybe
I'm giving the Netherlands too

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much credit. But the timing of
it seemed a little obvious from

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from a Dutch perspective that
this came out all look how

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horrible rushes you better sign
that agreement. That's no good.

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And then along with that comes
unrefuted proof of how

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incredibly powerful These papers
are. Because Oh, we had an

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Iceland guy resign over it. Oh,
now everyone's on notice. And

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when I went to these Panama
Papers, that I was like, you

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open up the web page, and
immediately it's like, oh, well,

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this is this is a complete
propaganda scam piece. Who, who

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who goes about analysing data
leaks with infographics saying

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we're just like WikiLeaks only
10 times bigger look at the big

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red blocks.

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Yeah, there's a bunch of
weirdness about these papers.

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Definitely.

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I have a I have a backgrounder
from BBC panorama, which I like

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because it's BBC. They're
clearly all on board. They the

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whole piece is dramatise with me
as their as they they say

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they've accessed the actual
Dock. Kimmins themselves, which

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of course we haven't seen, and
we'll get into that they

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haven't, by the way, they say
they have, they say they have

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and they're showing pictures on
monitors

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what they made, you know, it's
like, you know, an IU because

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you actually the access to that,
that referendum as like

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everybody else. Having like, at
your note, if you you can say,

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Hey, Adam, I access the 11
million documents. Yes, good

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word, because so I saw a
document. Yeah, that's it.

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That's what it means. 11 million
documents I'm, there's a bunch

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of stuff that's going to happen
out of these things. Let's,

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let's listen to him. And it's
been, by the

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way kept for a year already in
the BBC. All these guys are kept

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for over a year for a year.
Well, it's to 2014. But what I'm

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saying is that it wasn't it.
They weren't like the the

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gatekeepers, like with the
Snowden stuff with a guard, you

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know, you're not there to get
stuff cleared with the CIA, make

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sure they weren't printing
anything that wasn't going to be

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there wasn't going to work.
Yeah. And White House and White

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House and a White House. And so
that worked out so poorly that

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these guys circumvented the
whole system. And now of course,

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we don't really know where they
are.

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Well, so this this shows you the
takeaway from BBC, which, of

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course, is propaganda. You see
monitors everywhere, with

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Putin's picture on it, Assad's
picture on it, neither of them

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are our, as far as we know,
mentioned these documents at

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all, but that's what they're
focusing on a very, very

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overdramatized explanation of
the Panama Papers.

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Panama's carnival attracts
visitors from around the world.

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But away from the lights this
place is a thriving tax haven.

447
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:45,870
Investors come to Panama for
secrecy.

448
00:26:47,010 --> 00:26:51,660
You can go to Panama and you can
get a foundation or a trust or a

449
00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:55,620
company and you can use those
complicated slightly strange

450
00:26:55,620 --> 00:26:57,450
structures to hide

451
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,830
to hide Listen John, to hide to
hide

452
00:27:02,550 --> 00:27:06,900
ated slightly strange structures
to hide and disguise your to

453
00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:10,800
hide in the sky ownership and
control of assets. And now we

454
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,600
can see how an enormously can
files from this company most SEC

455
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,850
Fonseka shows the reality of
offshore from outside low sec

456
00:27:20,850 --> 00:27:24,060
funds sacre looks like a
perfectly respectable company.

457
00:27:24,780 --> 00:27:27,390
But this is a business that's
helped people from around the

458
00:27:27,390 --> 00:27:31,350
world. break the law break the
law documents were leaked to the

459
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:34,890
German newspapers, Deutsche
Zeitung and shared with the

460
00:27:34,890 --> 00:27:38,130
International Consortium of
Investigative Journalists

461
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:44,160
Panorama has been analysing the
documents, we found links to 72

462
00:27:44,190 --> 00:27:46,320
currents or four miles of state,

463
00:27:46,379 --> 00:27:49,349
they say they have access to
documents I guess,

464
00:27:49,410 --> 00:27:53,190
like the Icelandic Prime
Minister.

465
00:27:53,790 --> 00:27:57,180
If you can't read that dirt
30,000 page bill within a few

466
00:27:57,300 --> 00:27:59,880
months, are you going to go
through the 11 million

467
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:00,660
documents? Well, my

468
00:28:00,660 --> 00:28:03,900
heads of state like the
Icelandic Prime Minister

469
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:08,280
Sigmundur Gunnlaugsson, who had
a secret stake in an offshore

470
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,000
company, the company held his
wife's interests in Iceland's

471
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,740
banks worth millions of dollars.
Nobody knew that when her

472
00:28:16,740 --> 00:28:19,830
husband was dealing with the
Icelandic banks after their

473
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:23,730
collapse, including the British
demands for compensation, which

474
00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:24,720
he turned down.

475
00:28:24,899 --> 00:28:29,159
Now that was really important.
Also for the Netherlands,

476
00:28:29,189 --> 00:28:32,909
because it was if you'll recall,
it was the Dutch and the British

477
00:28:32,999 --> 00:28:36,269
who would use the Icelandic
Savings Bank for these huge

478
00:28:36,299 --> 00:28:40,919
interest payments, which are you
know, two did double digits, and

479
00:28:40,919 --> 00:28:43,679
then they went bust. And then we
if you recall, John, we talked

480
00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:48,329
about a lot on the show. We had
years years of both the UK and

481
00:28:48,329 --> 00:28:51,629
the Netherlands saying pay us
back our money, pay us back our

482
00:28:51,629 --> 00:28:55,409
money. You're crooks. And so
then as the number one example,

483
00:28:55,499 --> 00:28:59,549
comes the guy who actually
possibly stole some money or

484
00:28:59,549 --> 00:29:01,919
whatever he did, his wife had
some like, it doesn't matter.

485
00:29:01,949 --> 00:29:04,949
The implication is the guy who
fucked the UK in the

486
00:29:04,949 --> 00:29:07,739
Netherlands. He resigned over
these Panama Papers. This is

487
00:29:07,739 --> 00:29:08,189
good stuff

488
00:29:08,190 --> 00:29:12,000
collapse, including the British
demands for compensation, which

489
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,160
he turned down because of the
leak. We do now. He walked out

490
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:21,330
when questioned by an Icelandic
reporter, Mr. Gunnlaugsson is

491
00:29:21,330 --> 00:29:24,960
today facing calls for his
resignation. He says he has not

492
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,650
broken any rules and his wife
didn't benefit financially from

493
00:29:28,650 --> 00:29:32,280
his decisions. Most act Fon
sacre say the services they

494
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,340
provide are commonly used
worldwide, and they are

495
00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:38,880
responsible members of the
global financial and business

496
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,260
community. But some of the deals
in the files are extraordinary.

497
00:29:43,290 --> 00:29:46,680
We believe we have found a
billion dollar laundering

498
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,330
operation in Russia. cellist
Sergey roll Dugan, a close

499
00:29:51,330 --> 00:29:54,990
friend of President Putin was
officially the owner of our

500
00:29:54,990 --> 00:29:55,350
listen

501
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:57,870
to how they produce this piece.
John, listen to this bit of the

502
00:29:57,870 --> 00:30:00,570
weather. It's gonna wind it up
here. Listen to the music Music

503
00:30:00,570 --> 00:30:03,330
Yeah, because it's the composer
who's part of the money

504
00:30:03,330 --> 00:30:04,890
laundering scheme here the music

505
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,970
laundering operation in Russia.
This man cellist Sergei Raul

506
00:30:08,970 --> 00:30:12,870
Dugan, a close friend of
President Putin was officially

507
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:16,770
the owner of two secretive
companies which benefited from

508
00:30:16,770 --> 00:30:21,630
suspicious deals. For example,
an offshore company borrows $6

509
00:30:21,660 --> 00:30:26,010
million million three months
later, the loan is written off

510
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:31,560
for just $1. Why would anyone
want to give all this cash to

511
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,280
cellist

512
00:30:32,430 --> 00:30:36,450
there's nothing that I would
wait for anything other than say

513
00:30:36,450 --> 00:30:39,180
stop. We need to investigate
very closely what's going on

514
00:30:39,180 --> 00:30:41,910
here to you. Does it look like
money laundering?

515
00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:44,610
Yes, it does look like money
laundering to me for sure.

516
00:30:46,350 --> 00:30:50,730
Mr. Raul Dugan hasn't answered
our questions. Most fun seekers

517
00:30:50,730 --> 00:30:54,090
say they have a strong
compliance record through the

518
00:30:54,090 --> 00:30:58,800
leak the world can now see more
clearly how the wealthy can hide

519
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,730
their secrets

520
00:31:00,510 --> 00:31:06,720
and our track which had built
the edifice beautiful production

521
00:31:09,210 --> 00:31:13,260
play a couple of other takes on
this or actually lets you want

522
00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:16,290
to take a quick get get our
producers out of the way there

523
00:31:16,290 --> 00:31:18,870
we go into these things a little
more in a little more depth

524
00:31:20,730 --> 00:31:22,110
wow this early but

525
00:31:22,110 --> 00:31:24,720
I know I'm I'm saying that
because it's gonna dry.

526
00:31:25,410 --> 00:31:29,460
I'm always in the mood to say in
the morning to you John C when

527
00:31:29,460 --> 00:31:36,930
the C stands for cash to vorak
be 12

528
00:31:37,710 --> 00:31:41,370
Yeah, no kidding. In the morning
to you Mr. Adam curry also in

529
00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:43,260
the morning shifts as he boots
on the ground feet in the air

530
00:31:43,260 --> 00:31:45,510
subs in the water and all the
names and nights out there. Oh,

531
00:31:45,510 --> 00:31:45,630
in

532
00:31:45,630 --> 00:31:47,880
the morning, everybody in the
chat room and no agenda

533
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,090
stream.com Good to have you all
here. Many people from New York

534
00:31:51,090 --> 00:31:54,150
I see checking in as well. Thank
you to our artists who always

535
00:31:54,150 --> 00:31:58,020
bring us artwork, just at the
end of every single show. No

536
00:31:58,020 --> 00:32:01,230
dinar generator.com and we
choose one for we're probably

537
00:32:01,230 --> 00:32:04,290
the only podcast that does that
as far as I know. We want to

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00:32:04,290 --> 00:32:09,420
thank sort of slough for the
artwork for episode 813 The

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Clinton con dine it was a nice
aunt. Artwork Hello, my name is

540
00:32:14,490 --> 00:32:19,020
Bill we will magnifying glass
there for bad stuff to happen to

541
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:23,040
him. Yeah, it's good. I liked it
was a beautiful piece of work.

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00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:28,470
We have a few people to thank is
Executive Associate Executive

543
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:31,710
Producers then a few more to
think when we discuss the event

544
00:32:31,710 --> 00:32:37,470
in New York. And so sir Xander
hawks Bergen, the Baron of the

545
00:32:37,470 --> 00:32:43,710
Alps and Zaandam Netherlands
23456 will be an Associate

546
00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:48,780
Executive producer for the show.
Oh, nice. And hi guys, no

547
00:32:48,780 --> 00:32:51,150
message just thankful for your
hard work Baron of the Alps.

548
00:32:51,690 --> 00:32:54,900
I'm gonna send him a little bit
of karma going you don't ask for

549
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:54,960
it.

550
00:32:54,990 --> 00:32:56,580
You've got karma.

551
00:32:57,660 --> 00:33:00,840
Anybody can use extra karma
always room for extra karma.

552
00:33:01,650 --> 00:33:06,930
Yes, that's that's been our
theory all along. J Q and

553
00:33:06,930 --> 00:33:10,620
Chicago. $200. I can't thank you
guys enough. Your coverage of

554
00:33:10,620 --> 00:33:13,710
the world events is unparalleled
with John's historical context

555
00:33:13,710 --> 00:33:15,750
and AMS unique European
perspective and the fact that

556
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:19,020
both of you dig deeper and find
sources for news that no lazy as

557
00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:22,380
mainstream journalists was
shills seem to care to do is

558
00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:25,530
refreshing and inspiring your
recent coverage of the

559
00:33:25,530 --> 00:33:27,480
campaign's is excellent and
we're always share the same

560
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,660
views as you but and you don't
always share the same views as

561
00:33:30,660 --> 00:33:32,610
each other and I think that's a
good thing. I'd recent

562
00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:35,520
conversation with family members
and friends. I've had to excuse

563
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,550
myself because I got too fired
up. Yes, it seems to me most

564
00:33:38,550 --> 00:33:41,340
people on boats are right and
after no longer interested in

565
00:33:41,340 --> 00:33:43,710
conversation and productive
dialogue. Most people just want

566
00:33:43,710 --> 00:33:46,320
to be around people that agree
with them, so they can shut

567
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,200
their ears and justify their own
unjustifiable positions and

568
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,160
shake their head at the rest of
the world. You're either money

569
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,210
grubbing homophobic, or racist
or condescending PC douchebag

570
00:33:58,050 --> 00:33:59,670
it's not that simple. He's not
for me.

571
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:01,410
That's our two party system
everybody.

572
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,100
And while they are distracting,
distracted arguing over the

573
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:08,010
imaginary divided our corporate
one party system, nothing really

574
00:34:08,010 --> 00:34:11,940
changes Bernie supporters kind
of get it here. Hillary retards

575
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:16,290
definitely do not horrible
thing. I tried to explain this

576
00:34:16,290 --> 00:34:19,080
to my Bernie loving cousin who
was the most receptive of the

577
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,720
family I tried to punch her in
the mouth and she was interested

578
00:34:22,530 --> 00:34:26,100
but she responded by saying she
was worried I was getting too

579
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:30,810
much in my media from and these
are her words. I shock jock

580
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:36,180
atmosphere shocked shocked
shocked just shocked Jack

581
00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:39,810
I'm so Shocking. Shocking,
shocked Jack Yeah, take a look

582
00:34:39,810 --> 00:34:40,710
at my shock Jack

583
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,160
shut it then send me a bunch of
links to Democracy Now.

584
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,129
Wow talking about that's it. Now
that's a shock jock show right

585
00:34:50,129 --> 00:34:50,669
there.

586
00:34:53,310 --> 00:34:57,390
I tried to explain that they
were complicit media. You must

587
00:34:57,390 --> 00:35:00,000
have someone deconstructing the
news does does not take advert

588
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,540
tightening dollars and for the
shock, Jock atmosphere, it's not

589
00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:07,620
worth trying to explain irony to
someone who just can't feel it.

590
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,350
Anyway, keep up the great work a
little calmer for the second

591
00:35:10,350 --> 00:35:12,630
human resource on the way. Yes,
of course. Thank

592
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:14,550
you so much, Jake, you
appreciate it. You've

593
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:15,060
got

594
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:19,380
karma. Nice, good notes. Yeah,
it was good. And you're right.

595
00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:21,540
You know, when you feel the
rage, you gotta back off his

596
00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:25,170
back off. They, your friends and
family don't want

597
00:35:25,170 --> 00:35:28,980
to argue with people that are so
uninformed. Now, it's a really,

598
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,950
it's very easy to do ego, you
just kind of like listen, and

599
00:35:31,950 --> 00:35:34,800
then you can use and use it
later with people who are

600
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:40,140
informed that you hear what she
said. And get your kicks.

601
00:35:40,260 --> 00:35:45,300
It's really best to just realise
they really believe what they're

602
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:48,510
seeing. It's their reality. It's
the programming that has been

603
00:35:48,510 --> 00:35:49,800
put into their

604
00:35:49,830 --> 00:35:54,750
processor. So we had an Uber
driver in Manhattan. How was

605
00:35:54,750 --> 00:35:58,950
that? I don't know if he's
Middle Eastern or what but he

606
00:35:58,950 --> 00:36:04,320
was so in on Hillary Oh, and
he's his logic was that

607
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,250
now which DeVore x were in the
car because this whoa, this poor

608
00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:08,670
guy?

609
00:36:09,390 --> 00:36:12,090
No, no, we were like this guy
was so off the deep end. No one

610
00:36:12,090 --> 00:36:15,690
wanted to Sandy. Not even as
he's driving us, you know? Yeah,

611
00:36:15,690 --> 00:36:20,880
you're right. Good point. Good
guy. But it was just outrageous.

612
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,440
He anyway, talk about that
later. Ron nouran in.

613
00:36:26,850 --> 00:36:30,450
floating, floating, falutin
float

614
00:36:30,450 --> 00:36:34,560
dilute and float. The lens
another another Dutch 200

615
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,550
listener sent show 725 So long
overdue for value for value

616
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:45,930
donation, please de douche me.
You got you've been de deuced I

617
00:36:45,930 --> 00:36:51,150
work for a Dutch just SAP. You
there? Yeah. What's your sort of

618
00:36:51,150 --> 00:36:54,780
funny I'm here. I'm here. I'm
here. I worked for a Dutch SAP

619
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:59,670
something consulting firm called
the inter Dobbs and your Dobbs

620
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:03,600
and was hit in the mouse by two
of my co workers. Obviously more

621
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,200
sap works. We've got them.
Xavier hacking and Ronald

622
00:37:08,070 --> 00:37:11,400
Kooning's and Bergen con.

623
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:15,420
Hold on a second. I'm Xavier
hacking and the Roanoke

624
00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:18,870
container birth. That means
like, dang, you gotta go nine a

625
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:22,050
birth or nine. Uber means rabbit
mountain.

626
00:37:22,919 --> 00:37:26,729
Please call out these two guys
are gonna call out Ronald as a

627
00:37:26,729 --> 00:37:30,389
douche bag, douche bag because
he's never donated.

628
00:37:30,419 --> 00:37:35,249
Oh, no, no. Since episode one.
Oh.

629
00:37:36,510 --> 00:37:39,600
These continued efforts to
debunking this media bull crap.

630
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:44,820
And I get it today. He's got of
one too many clips. Take it

631
00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:49,710
short. Adam can take four out of
seven. Too delicious to believe

632
00:37:49,710 --> 00:37:52,440
Don't eat me Hillary Clinton.
Can you see the juice Hillary

633
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,840
cackle beautiful yum. I give you
Bernie Sanders and please clap.

634
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:05,280
Holy crap. Hillary Clinton. Oh
my gosh. Can you see that Jews?

635
00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:13,230
Fall Bernie Sanders

636
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,030
you've got karma?

637
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,480
No, that was who did them all I
did was they were all short.

638
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,510
That was Yes, I did them all.
But you set a bad precedent and

639
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:28,440
now you have to live with

640
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,160
you are reading I'm like, Oh, I
can find these. I know I can do

641
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,480
this. I know I can do this. I
found them done. Nailed it.

642
00:38:37,050 --> 00:38:43,050
We have no note from who we got
here. This is a Ron. I'm sorry,

643
00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:48,720
Sean. Rig. Gallardo regolamento
in Saranac Lake, New Jersey

644
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:49,590
$200. In

645
00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:52,470
New York, New York. Saranac Lake
New York. New York. Yeah, New

646
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:53,220
York, New York, New York,

647
00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:56,160
New York. Sean regardless, let
me see if I can find him on

648
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,870
that. I'm gonna give him some
karma because

649
00:38:57,870 --> 00:38:59,670
that's probably something
everybody needs today.

650
00:38:59,940 --> 00:39:01,650
You've got karma

651
00:39:03,570 --> 00:39:05,790
or break a lot. How do you spell
to do

652
00:39:07,050 --> 00:39:09,330
our e g. a lado?

653
00:39:10,020 --> 00:39:13,140
Regalado Regalado donated

654
00:39:13,170 --> 00:39:19,050
a lot with IRS? And he's got no
special note though. Okay. He's

655
00:39:19,050 --> 00:39:24,120
donated since the August 2015.
He's donated consistently, once

656
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,480
or twice.

657
00:39:25,470 --> 00:39:28,680
But no note, but no. nocturna.
Anyway,

658
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,170
that's our group there for
Associate Executive producers.

659
00:39:31,170 --> 00:39:35,040
We do have a few more dimension
where you get into the bonus

660
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,180
segment on the event. Yes, in
Manhattan, which produced the

661
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,280
two executive producers and
maybe three actually, I'm not

662
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,550
sure we will go over that when
we get there. Before we well,

663
00:39:47,550 --> 00:39:47,970
let's get

664
00:39:48,090 --> 00:39:52,350
Robin before we move. Forward
move on. The little PR mentioned

665
00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:58,290
I received in the mail the other
day, a brand new no agenda novel

666
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,660
by Sir Scott McKenzie. Good. Now
you will recall sir Scott has

667
00:40:03,660 --> 00:40:07,980
done see one day and get more
nation give him a nation

668
00:40:07,980 --> 00:40:11,700
Christmas Carol. Then he's
written here the short stories

669
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:17,040
the foot on the shore, death by
auto pan foot. The 90 year old

670
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,380
assassin perp walk conscience
for sale. And he lives in

671
00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:25,860
Cheshire, UK and he has a job
and you know, and he likes doing

672
00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:29,610
stuff other than writing. It's
just a hobby for him. But he is

673
00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:32,850
now published his new book,
which I read in about an hour

674
00:40:32,850 --> 00:40:35,340
and a half. I loved it so much.
It's called the boy with

675
00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:37,890
involuntary social network
disorder.

676
00:40:39,090 --> 00:40:39,870
Great title.

677
00:40:40,110 --> 00:40:42,870
Well, it's our it's our Word. We
came up with the involuntary

678
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:45,930
social network disorder. Yeah.
And no agenda. No, by Scott

679
00:40:45,930 --> 00:40:50,130
McKenzie, I'll read the blurb on
the back. Pad. He's just a

680
00:40:50,130 --> 00:40:53,220
regular guy, he drinks beer,
watches football chases girls

681
00:40:53,220 --> 00:40:56,190
and post everything about
himself online. Then he meets

682
00:40:56,190 --> 00:40:59,550
Laura. But she's shocked. But
he's shocked to discover that

683
00:40:59,550 --> 00:41:02,640
she lives her life almost
entirely offline. She doesn't

684
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,090
use social networks and doesn't
even have a mobile phone. But

685
00:41:06,090 --> 00:41:08,550
despite Laura's differences from
every other girl, he's known

686
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:11,850
patty is drawn to her. And she
opens his eyes to the world

687
00:41:11,850 --> 00:41:14,850
around him. He discovers how
social networks can be used to

688
00:41:14,850 --> 00:41:17,190
manipulate the public and he
finds himself faced with

689
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:20,910
decisions that could lead him to
abandon everyone and everything

690
00:41:20,910 --> 00:41:24,090
he knows for the chance of love
and the real purpose in his

691
00:41:24,090 --> 00:41:24,630
life.

692
00:41:25,530 --> 00:41:26,850
Great blurb it's

693
00:41:27,420 --> 00:41:31,050
it's a page turner. It's really
good. It's a love story. isn't

694
00:41:31,050 --> 00:41:34,980
any of this, this it's a it's,
it's great. I have to say I'm so

695
00:41:34,980 --> 00:41:38,730
proud that this has come out of
our show. You know, like we have

696
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,430
our artwork and our jingles and
our songs and the books is

697
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:44,790
beautiful. That will be around
for a long time. It's peaceful,

698
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:51,210
it's physical. Right there. So
you can find that@amazon.com

699
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:54,900
Also available Kindle, the boy
with involuntary social network

700
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:57,570
disorder. I recommend getting
the printed book though I think

701
00:41:57,570 --> 00:42:01,410
that's much more fun to have.
Yeah, much more fun. So we

702
00:42:01,410 --> 00:42:02,430
congratulate sir Scott and I

703
00:42:02,430 --> 00:42:06,570
was back in met when I was
meeting with one of my pals in

704
00:42:06,570 --> 00:42:11,280
the publishing business also an
agent. Yeah. Kindles everyone

705
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,070
knows New York they're kind of
relieved and they want to talk

706
00:42:14,070 --> 00:42:18,090
about too much but but hardcover
and softcover, the books, the

707
00:42:18,090 --> 00:42:20,850
printed books are now taking
hold back with the public and

708
00:42:20,850 --> 00:42:24,120
they're picking up Oh, really?
Yeah. Is that is that is that

709
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,080
just looks flat?

710
00:42:25,530 --> 00:42:27,900
Yeah, that sounds a bit like
what the music business is

711
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:31,380
saying. Hey, vinyls coming back,
man. It's gonna be great.

712
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:33,690
Yeah, I'm not buying.

713
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:37,440
He does say that they're living
in something of a dream. I'm not

714
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:37,890
buying.

715
00:42:38,430 --> 00:42:41,130
Anyway, congratulations, sir.
Scott. We're very, I'm very

716
00:42:41,130 --> 00:42:43,410
proud. And John, you'll, you'll
get a kick out of this. And you

717
00:42:43,410 --> 00:42:46,380
know, there's all these little
no agenda bits that are woven

718
00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:51,810
throughout the whole, the whole
novel, I'll give an example. She

719
00:42:51,810 --> 00:42:55,590
looked up from her kale salad.
Stuff like that. Yeah, it's

720
00:42:55,590 --> 00:42:59,250
beautiful. There's some see
something, say something's in

721
00:42:59,250 --> 00:43:01,530
there. There's all kinds of
great stuff, you will totally

722
00:43:01,530 --> 00:43:05,040
enjoy that. So we're gonna give
karma to Scott for that. And to

723
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,930
our Associate Executive. I'm
sorry,

724
00:43:07,290 --> 00:43:09,330
meme laden, meme laden

725
00:43:09,330 --> 00:43:15,090
indeed. not burdened, but
ladened. Also, of course, karma

726
00:43:15,090 --> 00:43:17,730
for Associate Executive
producers, We highly appreciate

727
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,450
what you do. These are real
credits. And that's why we

728
00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:23,970
mentioned them at the beginning
of the programme. Here is your

729
00:43:23,970 --> 00:43:27,810
karma. You've got karma.
Remember, we have another show

730
00:43:27,810 --> 00:43:33,510
coming up on Sunday?
evora.org/even If you don't have

731
00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:36,300
the finances, or if you can't
right now, you can always be out

732
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:38,100
there Brock getting the formula
formula is

733
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:52,590
this. We go out for hit people
in the mouth shut up.

734
00:43:56,550 --> 00:44:00,930
Question for you. Quick
question. Indeed, if the Earth

735
00:44:00,930 --> 00:44:04,320
is not flat, why do we still
talk about the four corners of

736
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:04,800
the earth?

737
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:15,540
Well, that's all Bruce is in
different continents. The

738
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:17,100
question I have for today that

739
00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:20,970
we only question I have to worry
about it.

740
00:44:23,310 --> 00:44:25,170
Just got to throw that in once
in a while man gotta get the

741
00:44:25,170 --> 00:44:26,010
Kooks coming.

742
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:31,860
Yeah, the cuckoo cuckoo. Oh, all
right. So let's go back to the

743
00:44:31,860 --> 00:44:33,900
Okay, we're gonna talk about the
Panama Papers for a little bit.

744
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:36,870
What part would you like me to
take because you know that you

745
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:39,360
know, the stuff I've done. I've
done the form 990s and all that.

746
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,650
So if you're interested in that,
let me know.

747
00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:42,600
Okay, here's a couple of that.
Let's start with this. So we

748
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,570
have a little well, no, wait,
let's start with the let's start

749
00:44:45,570 --> 00:44:46,830
with the let's start

750
00:44:46,830 --> 00:44:51,930
with the name. Panama Papers is
a brilliant choice. Because it

751
00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:53,280
is a callback. It's obviously

752
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,680
fabulous. It's a client. Let me
say a couple of things. A dog

753
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,160
grabbed the top. This was as far
as I'm concerned. You can tell

754
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:04,200
me what you think. If this was
orchestrated by a major, major

755
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:05,490
intelligence agency,

756
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:07,230
yes, absolutely.

757
00:45:08,429 --> 00:45:11,009
Absolutely all this nonsense
about, oh, I'm gonna give you

758
00:45:11,009 --> 00:45:14,699
the papers, but I'm afraid for
my life. And all this bull crap.

759
00:45:14,699 --> 00:45:16,709
We don't know who you know,
there's like a big mystery who

760
00:45:16,709 --> 00:45:19,889
came up with this? You know,
this was an intelligence agency

761
00:45:20,129 --> 00:45:22,229
Gan, but it's too big to

762
00:45:22,890 --> 00:45:25,440
say. So we have boots on the
ground in Panama as a

763
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,660
backgrounder, one of our
producers is a lawyer, and has

764
00:45:30,660 --> 00:45:34,680
residents in Panama. And he
immediately said, Adam, I don't

765
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,460
know what's going on. But the
last year, the Panamanian

766
00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:42,570
government, and the financial
sector has worked so hard to

767
00:45:42,570 --> 00:45:48,870
satisfy all these levels of
security and transparency for

768
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:52,230
the United States government. He
said they had just done all

769
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:55,500
this. Okay, good. You guys are
all transparent. And then boom,

770
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:57,780
this happens. That coincidence

771
00:45:57,809 --> 00:46:01,799
is that's another one raises.
This is all very well schemed.

772
00:46:01,799 --> 00:46:05,819
Very well scheme. I'm not
absolutely sure, though. Whether

773
00:46:05,819 --> 00:46:13,229
it is CIA, NSA, or am I, six,
more than Russia? Well, that

774
00:46:13,229 --> 00:46:15,749
matter? Well, I'm FSB. So we,

775
00:46:15,930 --> 00:46:21,210
if you just if we just follow
the money for a moment, the we

776
00:46:21,210 --> 00:46:26,220
have some, you know, the
International, the ICI je is

777
00:46:26,340 --> 00:46:29,190
just a it's just a brand, it's
not an actual, you know, it's

778
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:33,270
not a company or anything. It
really is the public, the Centre

779
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:37,830
for Public Integrity. Then if
you go to the icj.org website,

780
00:46:37,830 --> 00:46:40,590
and you want to donate your
donation is going to the Centre

781
00:46:40,590 --> 00:46:45,420
for Public Integrity, which does
about $7 million a year, which

782
00:46:45,420 --> 00:46:49,110
is not a lot if you claim to be
funding 400 of the independent

783
00:46:49,110 --> 00:46:51,900
journalists for over a year
working on these papers. But

784
00:46:51,930 --> 00:46:56,520
okay, the main funders, we can
go through the whole list, but

785
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:59,040
you've probably already heard
Open Society Foundation, which

786
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,220
is Soros. It's the Ford
Foundation, Rothschild, Hume,

787
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:07,800
the Rothschild charity, the
let's see, the one that I liked

788
00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:11,550
the most, or the two that I
liked the most is us AI D. So

789
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:15,300
I'm thinking that's where our
spy group is coming from. And

790
00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:19,710
keep your eye on don't RAF grand
green route. Glenn Greenwald is

791
00:47:19,710 --> 00:47:23,040
not saying much about this, even
though Pierre Omidyar drive my

792
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:29,430
car, he is also financing this
operation. So it's, it's all of

793
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:33,030
the typical elites. So how can
you ever think this is something

794
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:37,260
that's real? Well, it's real.
Oh, it's real. But it nothing is

795
00:47:37,290 --> 00:47:42,060
the stuff that's being done here
is not necessarily illegal. In

796
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:42,660
fact,

797
00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:45,870
well, let's take a look at that.
Now. I would,

798
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:49,050
before before taking a look at
it. Let's listen to what the

799
00:47:49,050 --> 00:47:50,250
president had to say about

800
00:47:50,250 --> 00:47:53,400
it. I have that clip, too. But
you can play your version.

801
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:57,840
In the news over the last couple
of days, we've had another

802
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:02,430
reminder, in this big dump of
data coming out of Panama, that

803
00:48:02,430 --> 00:48:05,430
tax avoidance is a big global
problem.

804
00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:07,860
Uh huh. That would be the
message and the the President's

805
00:48:07,860 --> 00:48:09,960
clearly on board. It's not

806
00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:13,680
unique to other countries,
because frankly, there are folks

807
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,370
here in America who are taking
advantage of the same stuff. A

808
00:48:17,370 --> 00:48:20,370
lot of its legal. Uh huh. That's
exactly the problem.

809
00:48:20,580 --> 00:48:23,550
A lot of it's legal clip number
two from the President, there is

810
00:48:23,550 --> 00:48:23,790
no

811
00:48:23,790 --> 00:48:30,570
doubt that the problem of global
tax avoidance generally, is a

812
00:48:30,570 --> 00:48:34,170
huge problem. It's been brought
up in g7 meetings, it's been

813
00:48:34,170 --> 00:48:37,920
brought up in G 20. Meetings,
there has been some progress

814
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,520
made in coordinating between tax
authorities of different

815
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,290
countries, so that we can make
sure that we're catching some of

816
00:48:46,290 --> 00:48:50,460
the most egregious examples. But
as I said before, one of the big

817
00:48:50,460 --> 00:48:55,110
problems that we have, Michael
is that a lot of this stuff is

818
00:48:55,110 --> 00:48:55,560
legal.

819
00:48:55,710 --> 00:48:59,160
Yeah. But yeah, he keeps
emphasising that it's leaves

820
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,230
makes me wonder, well, how deep
he's in.

821
00:49:02,430 --> 00:49:06,030
Well, that is a good point. So
maybe he's not running the show.

822
00:49:06,210 --> 00:49:11,190
So one of our producers on
Twitter published this list of

823
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:14,940
how you why you use these
systems. This is a Ancilla Oh,

824
00:49:14,940 --> 00:49:18,690
and so I'm gonna tell you, and
so I, this LIS was dynamite. And

825
00:49:18,690 --> 00:49:23,490
so I decided to just read it
off. This is a this is a Why use

826
00:49:23,490 --> 00:49:29,220
a shell corporation infographic
Oh, and it goes sublimated who

827
00:49:29,220 --> 00:49:33,840
may do to illegal and I'm gonna
read them in order of the legit

828
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,960
ones, the ones that are legal
that Obama's talking about,

829
00:49:36,990 --> 00:49:40,380
okay. And I can say by looking
just at this list and the way

830
00:49:40,380 --> 00:49:43,410
I've always seen it, you don't
do this stuff because you want

831
00:49:43,410 --> 00:49:46,590
to be legit and legal. You're
not doing this just for tax

832
00:49:46,590 --> 00:49:49,680
avoidance. Usually, a lot of the
times you are that's not legal,

833
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,980
by the way. So he's not talking
about that. What is he talking

834
00:49:52,980 --> 00:49:55,170
about? That's illegal. Let's
look at the legal ones and work

835
00:49:55,170 --> 00:49:58,380
our way to the worst of the
worst, starting with to destroy

836
00:49:58,380 --> 00:50:03,450
at the top to protect trades.
Secrets. Your high profile cyber

837
00:50:03,450 --> 00:50:06,180
Corp wants to invest in a new
tech competitors might beat you

838
00:50:06,180 --> 00:50:08,370
to it unless a shell conceals
your investment.

839
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,890
Wow. Okay, good point. Good
point. Competitive Advantage.

840
00:50:10,890 --> 00:50:11,700
Yeah, that would work.

841
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:14,460
And you could do that without
having to go to a Panamanian

842
00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:15,120
company.

843
00:50:15,930 --> 00:50:18,810
You could do it anywhere except
Panama might have Morrison

844
00:50:18,810 --> 00:50:21,300
forest journals do that. But you
might as well do it in Panama

845
00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:23,220
because it's cheap. Well, one
thing

846
00:50:23,220 --> 00:50:26,310
that was brought out is that all
these big banks, your buddies at

847
00:50:26,310 --> 00:50:28,710
H S, HSBC, whatever

848
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:31,080
it HSBC see the money
launderers?

849
00:50:31,170 --> 00:50:35,310
The money launderers, USB,
Credit Suisse all these guys are

850
00:50:35,310 --> 00:50:38,190
involved with this company. So
when you went to them saying

851
00:50:38,190 --> 00:50:42,330
hey, you know, I gotta set up a
shell to protect my investment

852
00:50:42,330 --> 00:50:45,000
have been even noticing that I'm
putting all my money over here.

853
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,680
They would send they would do
the deal with Panama right? Oh,

854
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,200
anyway, right. Okay, that's
number one. That's probably the

855
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,700
most legitimate reason. Then the
next one is to keep your brands

856
00:50:56,700 --> 00:51:00,240
strong as a toy company wants to
buy a supplier that also makes

857
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:04,620
six A's buying through a shell
keeps concern mom's in the dark

858
00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:09,390
or they do the Chinese does like
Foxconn to then make sex aids.

859
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:12,660
It might be kind of like
everybody just does open

860
00:51:12,660 --> 00:51:15,540
businessman Fox concert that
doesn't count. Okay, now we're

861
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:17,820
getting now it's gonna get a
little more interesting to

862
00:51:17,820 --> 00:51:21,720
resist price gouging making a
blockbuster movie sequel book

863
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:24,960
locations through a shell Yeah,
so hotels don't charge you an

864
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,520
inflated Hollywood studio rate.
Okay, seems like a long way to

865
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:35,340
go I'm gonna set up a go all of
Joe's deputy shell just so I can

866
00:51:35,340 --> 00:51:39,480
get a better hotel price. No,
it's for it's for tax avoidance.

867
00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:41,490
And now we're starting to get
into grey areas to avoid

868
00:51:41,490 --> 00:51:45,330
kidnapping. Yes. provides to the
US government and foreign

869
00:51:45,330 --> 00:51:48,480
hotspot a shell come to keep
your officers identity secret

870
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:54,450
and off hidden lists. Via high
assets from a future ex divorce

871
00:51:54,450 --> 00:51:55,260
getting messy.

872
00:51:55,770 --> 00:51:59,940
Sam, Where was his Panama advice
before I got divorced them so

873
00:52:00,029 --> 00:52:03,179
divorce getting messy can't sue
for the island house if he

874
00:52:03,179 --> 00:52:08,849
doesn't know you bought it?
Okay, now here we go. go

875
00:52:08,849 --> 00:52:12,419
bankrupt and stay rich
bankruptcy courts are like ex

876
00:52:12,419 --> 00:52:15,299
spouses. They can't take what
they don't know exists, right?

877
00:52:15,329 --> 00:52:19,079
That's cheating the system.
You're cheating the courts?

878
00:52:19,079 --> 00:52:22,709
That's actually illegal. That
we're in now there's all illegal

879
00:52:22,829 --> 00:52:25,739
so there's only maybe a couple
of legitimate reasons Obama's

880
00:52:25,739 --> 00:52:29,489
foolish shit is what I'm trying
to say. Yeah. Okay, number here

881
00:52:29,489 --> 00:52:34,199
we go to evade taxes. It's
cheaper to pay Bermuda fees for

882
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:36,899
an anonymous account and to
declare your revenues and give

883
00:52:36,899 --> 00:52:40,349
the IRS a big cut ask for a
Fortune ask a fortune 500

884
00:52:40,349 --> 00:52:44,939
company right to bribe officials
and do business in Russia

885
00:52:44,939 --> 00:52:47,879
without lining some pockets
using an anonymous slush fund.

886
00:52:47,999 --> 00:52:52,229
Just don't get caught like
Hewlett Packard did. Okay. First

887
00:52:52,769 --> 00:52:56,069
to manipulate markets. Now this
one that's a that's a big one.

888
00:52:56,069 --> 00:52:59,099
That's a big one. But a bunch of
cheap stocks start a boiler room

889
00:52:59,099 --> 00:53:01,859
scam to bid up the price uses
shell to dump your shares at a

890
00:53:01,859 --> 00:53:05,729
huge profit cycling buyer. You
can this has been going on since

891
00:53:05,729 --> 00:53:09,689
the stock markets existed. I'm
sure there's a lot of companies

892
00:53:09,689 --> 00:53:12,809
and I would name a couple
there's I've watched him do it.

893
00:53:13,619 --> 00:53:16,199
Although you can't prove
anything, but I remember when

894
00:53:16,919 --> 00:53:19,829
Jack Traumeel was running I
forget which company of the one

895
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:25,229
of the many. The Commodore
Commodore would bring out. They

896
00:53:25,229 --> 00:53:27,299
do that which is great. Their
stock was like three bucks.

897
00:53:28,170 --> 00:53:31,470
Before the 64, the Commodore 64
This

898
00:53:31,470 --> 00:53:35,730
is during the era after the 60s
Okay, the 128 the 120 and some

899
00:53:35,730 --> 00:53:38,730
of these other things they would
now I remember watching this one

900
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,650
is great. I said Holy mackerel.
Commodore came out and said

901
00:53:43,650 --> 00:53:46,890
they're gonna bring out a PC
kind of a clone and they showed

902
00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:51,060
it PC and they showed pictures
and images and all this stuff.

903
00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:54,900
The stock skyrocketed to like
nice. Well over 15

904
00:53:55,290 --> 00:54:01,380
from three Let me guess big sell
off. They went way up. Yeah, and

905
00:54:01,380 --> 00:54:01,830
then people

906
00:54:01,830 --> 00:54:02,550
sold off.

907
00:54:03,209 --> 00:54:07,949
No, okay. No, it was going it
was headed up okay. And then

908
00:54:07,949 --> 00:54:11,099
Commodore GA you have to be if
you're gonna manipulate the

909
00:54:11,099 --> 00:54:13,349
market, you have to have
control. You just don't you

910
00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:16,619
know, it's pumping dumps are
like risky. This way. It's like

911
00:54:16,619 --> 00:54:19,289
you pump and you do as a pump
and dump. But it goes like, but

912
00:54:19,289 --> 00:54:22,829
it's legal. It's totally legal
to do what they did is not legal

913
00:54:22,829 --> 00:54:25,169
to trade on this information so
that you can trade it through a

914
00:54:25,169 --> 00:54:28,919
shell company if you had one.
Gotcha. And so you announced the

915
00:54:28,919 --> 00:54:31,559
new products of these fac and
that's probably still a camp

916
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:31,649
that

917
00:54:31,710 --> 00:54:36,060
begins to stop you there. Can we
then also presume that members

918
00:54:36,060 --> 00:54:40,140
of Congress who are completely
immune from investing based on

919
00:54:40,140 --> 00:54:42,780
insider information because
they're making the insider

920
00:54:42,780 --> 00:54:45,840
information? Can I presume that
there may be some congressmen

921
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,780
and women and senators who would
have this construction set up

922
00:54:48,780 --> 00:54:49,560
for themselves?

923
00:54:49,890 --> 00:54:53,730
They don't need to. They don't
need to know because they're

924
00:54:54,030 --> 00:54:54,900
immune from

925
00:54:55,170 --> 00:55:00,720
right but they don't like prying
eyes. Oh, okay.

926
00:55:01,590 --> 00:55:03,540
I don't think so. That's why
there's not that many Americans

927
00:55:03,540 --> 00:55:05,520
involved. I don't think we're
gonna see two, ma'am. Maybe

928
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,710
a few hours we're running the
show. That's why there's no

929
00:55:07,710 --> 00:55:10,410
Americans and that would who do
we bring up? We brought up.

930
00:55:11,370 --> 00:55:11,790
David.

931
00:55:13,139 --> 00:55:18,029
Let me Yeah, that would be a
possibility. Well, I'm gonna say

932
00:55:18,029 --> 00:55:20,489
right now what I think you're
gonna find in these papers,

933
00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:26,039
you're gonna find the Bernie
Madoff money. Oh, really? Yeah.

934
00:55:26,429 --> 00:55:30,359
Ah, and I think Bernie Madoff,
money's got something to do with

935
00:55:30,359 --> 00:55:33,929
this. Hi, somebody in one of
these agencies got burned by

936
00:55:33,929 --> 00:55:37,409
Bernie. And this was a part of a
scheme to find the money because

937
00:55:37,409 --> 00:55:40,739
they know that Bernie was
squirrelled of money away. They

938
00:55:40,739 --> 00:55:42,119
can't find a nickel of it.

939
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:44,190
And then what are they gonna do?
They're gonna go confiscate it?

940
00:55:44,310 --> 00:55:47,280
Yeah. It's gotta be a lot of
dough.

941
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,300
It's probably 20 30 million, no,
billion, billion, billion

942
00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:55,170
billion. Yeah. All right, let me
get back to the scheme. So you

943
00:55:55,170 --> 00:55:58,560
make this announcement. And then
a stock goes from three to 12.

944
00:55:58,890 --> 00:56:02,340
And then I say to two weeks,
then you can take the only two

945
00:56:02,340 --> 00:56:04,140
weeks later, you pull it said,
we're not going to do that

946
00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:09,420
product. stock falls back to
three. Buying Opportunity. It's

947
00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:14,430
like, well, to do it again, this
just goes up. You say no, I'm

948
00:56:14,430 --> 00:56:17,340
not gonna do it, it goes down.
Now, I looked into this when it

949
00:56:17,340 --> 00:56:20,700
happened. And I and I found out
that you can do it's legal in

950
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:25,080
the United States to do what's
called dry testing. And dry test

951
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,070
thing is to announce a product
to see if there's any interest,

952
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,970
right. And if the interest isn't
what you want it to be whatever

953
00:56:32,970 --> 00:56:36,180
that is, you can just pull the
product and it's not like it's

954
00:56:36,210 --> 00:56:38,760
not like you've done anything
you'll leave in politics. It's

955
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,540
called the trial balloon. This
is a trial balloon. And so the

956
00:56:42,540 --> 00:56:45,810
product is announced.
Coincidentally, the stock goes

957
00:56:45,810 --> 00:56:48,810
flying and then the product is
unannounced and the stock goes

958
00:56:48,810 --> 00:56:51,720
right back down. You could get
be on the long side just before

959
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:54,450
the announcement to a shell
company and then be on the short

960
00:56:54,450 --> 00:56:58,590
side when you pull the product.
And it's a very simple mechanism

961
00:56:58,590 --> 00:57:01,470
and you can make so much money
doing that and isn't one of

962
00:57:01,470 --> 00:57:04,530
these illegal mechanisms which
is not helping them stock market

963
00:57:04,530 --> 00:57:08,820
anywhere in the world. Anyway,
that's why you can do it. All

964
00:57:08,820 --> 00:57:12,720
right, onward. to bribe
officials to manipulate marks

965
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:16,350
then we get to cover fraud. You
run an oil rich country and make

966
00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:20,820
millions selling crude off the
books by your bling through a

967
00:57:20,820 --> 00:57:23,160
shell company. This means no
one's gonna

968
00:57:23,820 --> 00:57:27,660
he's right he's gonna show up on
the list of course show up. Now

969
00:57:27,660 --> 00:57:27,780
we're

970
00:57:27,780 --> 00:57:31,950
getting even worse to deal drugs
or arms. Also, these

971
00:57:31,950 --> 00:57:35,670
paramilitary rebels supposed to
pay you for the stolen RPGs and

972
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:41,460
the AK 40 sevens and then the
last one to finance terror my

973
00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:44,220
face so most of the things on
this the reason you want these

974
00:57:44,220 --> 00:57:49,710
shell companies is illegal. And
then you know of course these 11

975
00:57:49,710 --> 00:57:54,300
million documents not only talk
about the shell company but it

976
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,930
apparently goes deeper and gives
you some insight into the scams

977
00:57:57,930 --> 00:58:01,860
going on and play this clip.
This is Pfeiffer you say the

978
00:58:01,860 --> 00:58:04,980
Iceland game this is the guys
who got busted Yeah, this is an

979
00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:05,850
independent meaning

980
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,460
papers you're so right when I
think about it who gives a crap

981
00:58:08,460 --> 00:58:11,370
about Iceland football. That's
what we really care about.

982
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:13,230
Squirrel you have my attention
but a

983
00:58:13,230 --> 00:58:18,000
topic FIFA World Soccer official
has resigned in the fallout from

984
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:23,010
the Panama Papers leaks. Juan
Pedro Damiani was an ethics

985
00:58:23,010 --> 00:58:26,970
committee member. He was named
in the leaks and he is now under

986
00:58:26,970 --> 00:58:30,690
investigation. And the man at
the top of FIFA. Gianni

987
00:58:30,690 --> 00:58:34,320
Infantino, this gentleman right
here. He's also with the firing

988
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,530
line. Tonight Swiss police
raided the headquarters of

989
00:58:37,530 --> 00:58:41,610
European football's governing
body UEFA on Wednesday, they

990
00:58:41,610 --> 00:58:45,630
were looking for a document that
infant Dino signed during his

991
00:58:45,630 --> 00:58:49,740
time there. It was a TV rights
deal with a company whose owners

992
00:58:49,740 --> 00:58:52,650
have since been accused of
fraud. Now he has raised of

993
00:58:52,650 --> 00:58:57,000
course a lot of questions can
soccer's governing bodies FIFA

994
00:58:57,030 --> 00:58:59,730
UEFA really clean up their act?

995
00:59:00,930 --> 00:59:05,430
Yeah, you're right. You're
right. So it's just probably

996
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:08,730
everybody is in this database
one way or the other.

997
00:59:09,690 --> 00:59:13,830
Everybody who's trying to scam
their way through this. This

998
00:59:13,830 --> 00:59:17,790
wasn't like a tax thing. The
FIFA YouWave or whatever it is.

999
00:59:18,270 --> 00:59:21,690
Deal. It was a just, it was just
embezzlement and for all

1000
00:59:21,690 --> 00:59:24,870
practical purposes, and there's
gonna be a lot of that. That's

1001
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:27,540
what these these shells are good
for. They're good for all kinds

1002
00:59:27,540 --> 00:59:30,990
of fancy footwork if you're
you're, and by the way, which

1003
00:59:31,020 --> 00:59:33,690
was kind of shocking to me. We
have these people are supposed

1004
00:59:33,690 --> 00:59:38,430
to be our leaders. The guy who
runs famous was we are he's a

1005
00:59:38,430 --> 00:59:42,090
leader. He's he's doing this
service for the soccer loving

1006
00:59:42,090 --> 00:59:44,910
public. And these other people
are supposed to be our leaders

1007
00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:48,780
and this bulk of Cameron's
involved Yeah, these people

1008
00:59:48,780 --> 00:59:52,050
aren't our leader. The
leadership of the world is

1009
00:59:52,050 --> 00:59:55,860
involved in this is all involved
in this and they're all corrupt.

1010
00:59:56,790 --> 01:00:00,660
This is not really a pleasant
thing to witness This is gonna

1011
01:00:00,660 --> 01:00:02,970
get worse as they go through
these. I don't know how many

1012
01:00:02,970 --> 01:00:06,930
shell companies there were there
was 1000s. And every one of them

1013
01:00:06,930 --> 01:00:10,740
was a scam of some sort. And the
tax avoidance thing I think is

1014
01:00:10,740 --> 01:00:16,260
really got not much to do with
it all the legal uses, I doubt

1015
01:00:16,260 --> 01:00:19,710
there's very many that, that
were done for the purposes of

1016
01:00:19,710 --> 01:00:22,800
like avoiding, you know, a
divorce settlement or something

1017
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,950
along those simplistic lines,
I'm sure there's a couple. But

1018
01:00:25,950 --> 01:00:28,620
for the most part, people whose
names crop up are going to be

1019
01:00:28,620 --> 01:00:31,920
criminal, and the ones they've
already brought up, are already

1020
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,180
in jail for some other financial
crime, right, which means that's

1021
01:00:36,180 --> 01:00:38,880
just the tip of the real
iceberg, which is gotta be a

1022
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,200
whopper now exactly where, you
know, Soros in these guys and

1023
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,910
this journalists operation, they
may have been also kind of set

1024
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:51,960
up by having their being
associated with what's going to

1025
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,580
happen, but unless

1026
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:58,260
I'll have to say right off the
bat, this came from Germany, B

1027
01:00:58,260 --> 01:01:02,760
and D. Are heralded in the
intelligence community as top

1028
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:07,530
notch. That's their
intelligence. Agency B and D is

1029
01:01:07,530 --> 01:01:11,010
very, very, very good. So I
gotta keep eyes on them.

1030
01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:15,570
Well, they may have been behind
it, possibly. Because they mean

1031
01:01:15,570 --> 01:01:19,620
this stuff went to Germany it
didn't go to any other outlet to

1032
01:01:19,620 --> 01:01:23,370
do them a favour of course it
could be all misdirection this

1033
01:01:23,370 --> 01:01:25,050
has got so much intrigue

1034
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,550
and how and how is this not
theft of a commercial companies?

1035
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,130
This property How is

1036
01:01:32,130 --> 01:01:35,100
this not have you seen the CEO
of this? Yeah,

1037
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,700
the guys Yeah, the guy is like
shitting himself. We've been

1038
01:01:38,700 --> 01:01:40,710
robbed. Yeah, no one cares we

1039
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,680
are owning crazy We've been
robbed him or stuff that this is

1040
01:01:46,740 --> 01:01:48,840
a horrible hack. No one's
talking about.

1041
01:01:49,620 --> 01:01:54,180
I know. It's insane. There's not
a word about cyber anywhere in

1042
01:01:54,180 --> 01:01:59,310
real in relation to this to this
story, that or not at all how it

1043
01:01:59,310 --> 01:02:01,950
was done just Oh, some deep
source. The Germans got it. They

1044
01:02:01,950 --> 01:02:05,820
gave it to the German media, who
are pretty darn good at

1045
01:02:05,820 --> 01:02:09,990
propaganda. Did you know that in
German, did you know that in

1046
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:14,730
Germany it is an offence a
findable and jailable

1047
01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:18,930
imprisonable offence if you
insult a world leader or a head

1048
01:02:18,930 --> 01:02:23,610
of state publicly. I didn't know
this, but it is it is no this

1049
01:02:23,610 --> 01:02:26,820
Yes, the guy who insulted
there's a comedian, and it's a

1050
01:02:26,820 --> 01:02:30,780
poem about Erawan. And he's
being investigated to be thrown

1051
01:02:30,780 --> 01:02:33,480
in jail and they pulled the
whole thing or money. Yes. And

1052
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:34,710
dogs, dogs Ronja.

1053
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:37,920
Because I thought it was a
league. I know it's illegal in

1054
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,480
Turkey even though it's yes,

1055
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,580
yeah. No, it's it is.

1056
01:02:44,430 --> 01:02:47,010
Go ahead. So you remember those
puppets they did in England with

1057
01:02:47,010 --> 01:02:47,130
a

1058
01:02:47,399 --> 01:02:50,339
spitting image. Exactly. beating
me and that's coming back. By

1059
01:02:50,339 --> 01:02:53,399
the way. That's coming back. I
predicted now spitting images

1060
01:02:53,399 --> 01:02:57,389
coming back. It's the cycle.
It's time. It's time for that

1061
01:02:57,389 --> 01:02:59,069
television. So entertainment
cycle,

1062
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,010
you know that the images are
great. And the puppets are

1063
01:03:02,010 --> 01:03:04,560
fantastic. I think the writing
needs improvement. That's really

1064
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:05,040
the weakest.

1065
01:03:05,549 --> 01:03:10,439
Possibly. I'm looking for the
looking for the art. Oh, here I

1066
01:03:10,439 --> 01:03:17,219
have it. Yeah. It's your German
television. Paul satire. See the

1067
01:03:17,219 --> 01:03:21,269
Wall Street Journal scandal?
Yeah, well, it's German law. I

1068
01:03:21,269 --> 01:03:23,999
didn't realise this. But you're
not allowed to publicly insult

1069
01:03:23,999 --> 01:03:28,979
another head of state. Wow.
Yeah.

1070
01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:31,110
Well, Trump would be doomed over
there.

1071
01:03:32,460 --> 01:03:36,750
Sure what you should? Yeah.

1072
01:03:37,110 --> 01:03:39,600
That's crazy. Yes.

1073
01:03:39,630 --> 01:03:42,120
Anyway, so let's let's look at
the way our media looked at this

1074
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,810
thing. Here's PBS on the Panama
Papers. You think PBS newshour

1075
01:03:45,810 --> 01:03:47,850
would have probably in depth
coverage with a lot of

1076
01:03:47,850 --> 01:03:49,410
explanation about what's going
on.

1077
01:03:50,130 --> 01:03:52,980
They could have just purchased
the BBC panorama package and

1078
01:03:52,980 --> 01:03:53,340
done a

1079
01:03:54,300 --> 01:03:56,520
panorama package and they could
have put a whiteboard up and

1080
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,950
maybe drew a few arrows but
yeah,

1081
01:04:00,030 --> 01:04:04,980
or one of those sketches go. You
know, let's fast the animated

1082
01:04:04,980 --> 01:04:05,580
sketches.

1083
01:04:06,930 --> 01:04:08,550
The ones that are on the test.

1084
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,970
Yeah, yeah. Okay, here we go.

1085
01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:15,570
More world leaders found
themselves on the defensive

1086
01:04:15,570 --> 01:04:19,680
today over offshore investments.
They were detailed this week and

1087
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:24,360
a massive leak of documents, the
so called Panama Papers. British

1088
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,690
Prime Minister David Cameron
said today that his family will

1089
01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:32,790
not benefit from offshore funds
or trust in the future. And in

1090
01:04:32,790 --> 01:04:37,590
Tokyo, Ukraine's President Petro
Poroshenko, so that his offshore

1091
01:04:37,590 --> 01:04:41,550
holdings were a blind trust that
He created once he took office.

1092
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:47,040
The purpose of that was a
transparent separation business

1093
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:52,860
of the Ukrainian president from
any political influence. This is

1094
01:04:52,860 --> 01:04:56,880
absolutely normal procedure. And
I think this is the main

1095
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:02,610
difference from the blaming all
the political figures in these

1096
01:05:02,610 --> 01:05:03,360
panellists.

1097
01:05:04,230 --> 01:05:08,130
Also, today, the documents leak
led police in Switzerland to

1098
01:05:08,130 --> 01:05:11,280
raid the headquarters of
European soccer's governing

1099
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,330
body. They're focused on a TV
contract that could be linked to

1100
01:05:15,330 --> 01:05:16,620
a bribery scandal.

1101
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,230
Allow me to summarise up to this
point because I like the

1102
01:05:19,230 --> 01:05:23,190
deconstruction to doing so we
have to figure out which

1103
01:05:23,220 --> 01:05:28,020
intelligence agency or agencies
or units about let me just

1104
01:05:28,020 --> 01:05:33,330
summarise our behind this.
Because I agree with you, this

1105
01:05:33,330 --> 01:05:36,600
everyone is corrupt, they're all
corrupt, the president included

1106
01:05:36,780 --> 01:05:39,000
and that's why he's Hey, you
know, it's not illegal. It's not

1107
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,790
illegal stuff I was maybe doing
was not illegal. So someone is

1108
01:05:41,790 --> 01:05:46,110
using this as the ultimate
blackmailing tool. The twist you

1109
01:05:46,110 --> 01:05:49,380
threw onto that, which I like a
lot is the Bernie Madoff money.

1110
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,940
Which I'm sure brings in a whole
nother episode. It certainly

1111
01:05:53,940 --> 01:05:57,900
brings in celebrate ease, and
other people that that are great

1112
01:05:57,900 --> 01:06:01,650
for media attention for any
topic. But really, this is this

1113
01:06:01,650 --> 01:06:07,080
is foreign policy by blackmail.
It doesn't even have to be then

1114
01:06:07,140 --> 01:06:09,660
they might not even have
documents for all I know, we

1115
01:06:09,660 --> 01:06:10,260
don't know.

1116
01:06:11,430 --> 01:06:14,730
Anything, don't you back you
could be right. But I think

1117
01:06:14,730 --> 01:06:17,400
there's something. Here's a
couple of things about that,

1118
01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:22,710
that I was really disturbed by
the PBS report. They use the

1119
01:06:22,980 --> 01:06:26,910
term offshore investment as
though you're buying some stock

1120
01:06:26,910 --> 01:06:28,980
and in the Brazilian oil

1121
01:06:28,980 --> 01:06:31,410
company, I know you're investing
in your own shell company.

1122
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,800
This is not an offshore
investment. Let's start with

1123
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:40,260
that it's not an investment at
all right. And then then she

1124
01:06:40,260 --> 01:06:45,690
says so called Panama Papers.
And you use this this is a

1125
01:06:45,690 --> 01:06:46,410
propaganda

1126
01:06:46,410 --> 01:06:48,990
Ah, very good point. Google only
used

1127
01:06:48,990 --> 01:06:53,940
the term so called to kind of
marginalise what you're going to

1128
01:06:53,940 --> 01:06:57,630
say next. Oh, this call you have
some Oh, I see. And what do you

1129
01:06:57,630 --> 01:07:01,050
drink it? Oh, you're drinking
Some so called wise a

1130
01:07:01,050 --> 01:07:04,470
pre? It's a pre disparaging
comment.

1131
01:07:04,650 --> 01:07:07,650
Yeah. Oh, you haven't Some so
called Champagne. And that's

1132
01:07:07,650 --> 01:07:12,750
exactly what you say to me
often. They do as well. That's

1133
01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:14,970
called Champagne you're drinking
correct

1134
01:07:14,970 --> 01:07:20,820
so called so called caviar. It's
not so called it is the Pat der

1135
01:07:20,820 --> 01:07:24,450
the Panama Papers. That's what
they're called. They're not so

1136
01:07:24,450 --> 01:07:37,950
called where's my hearing?
Words? Okay, there's no mention

1137
01:07:37,950 --> 01:07:41,130
again, your your, if anyone out
there wants to listen to any of

1138
01:07:41,130 --> 01:07:44,100
these reports, you're going to
still hear nothing about the

1139
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:48,750
potential called podcaster who
called podcasters for any made

1140
01:07:48,750 --> 01:07:52,500
off not mentioned of course and,
and she said that that piece was

1141
01:07:52,500 --> 01:07:54,150
so soft pedal.

1142
01:07:54,180 --> 01:07:56,250
I want to listen to it again.
Now that you've done that for

1143
01:07:56,250 --> 01:07:57,060
us. Okay, let's

1144
01:07:57,330 --> 01:08:01,170
listen to how soft peddled it is
and it's just like, wow, this is

1145
01:08:01,170 --> 01:08:02,580
happening but who gives a shit.

1146
01:08:03,450 --> 01:08:06,360
More world leaders found
themselves on the defensive

1147
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,470
today over offshore investments.
They were detailed this week and

1148
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:15,150
a massive leak of documents, the
so called Panama Papers. British

1149
01:08:15,150 --> 01:08:18,480
Prime Minister David Cameron
said today that his family will

1150
01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:23,730
not benefit from offshore funds
or trust in the future. So

1151
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,130
he's all over it. This is
problematic in the

1152
01:08:26,130 --> 01:08:29,370
future. I'm gonna benefit from
it. It's no big deal. Not

1153
01:08:29,970 --> 01:08:31,110
in the future. We won't do that.

1154
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:35,430
And in Tokyo, Ukraine, the
President Petro Poroshenko said

1155
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:39,090
that his offshore holdings were
a blind trust that He created

1156
01:08:39,090 --> 01:08:39,930
once he took off

1157
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:45,630
holding. Yeah, that's probably
also a heads up because every

1158
01:08:45,630 --> 01:08:49,260
single politician who has an
elected seat, you know, they go

1159
01:08:49,260 --> 01:08:51,690
through this Oh, put it in a
blind trust. We may see

1160
01:08:51,690 --> 01:08:55,770
trust is not one of these days,
you know, exactly exactly

1161
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,250
blind trust that Goldman Sachs
does it for you or the Vantage

1162
01:08:59,250 --> 01:09:00,510
fund or whatever it's called.

1163
01:09:01,950 --> 01:09:06,690
The only purpose of that was a
transparent separation business

1164
01:09:07,290 --> 01:09:11,250
of the Ukrainian president from
any political influence. Yes.

1165
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:16,140
This is absolutely normal
procedure. And I think this is

1166
01:09:16,140 --> 01:09:19,980
the main difference. Nothing to
see here procedure, nothing to

1167
01:09:19,980 --> 01:09:24,360
see here we go over here.
Nothing to see. Look at that

1168
01:09:24,510 --> 01:09:28,230
thing. This is the main
difference from the blaming all

1169
01:09:28,230 --> 01:09:31,980
the political figures in this
panorama lesson.

1170
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,780
Also today the documents leaked
led police in Switzerland to

1171
01:09:36,780 --> 01:09:39,960
raid the headquarters of
European soccer's governing

1172
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,010
body. They're focused on a TV
contract that could be linked to

1173
01:09:44,010 --> 01:09:46,980
a bribery scandal it could be
could be

1174
01:09:49,260 --> 01:09:52,920
Yeah, so now I'm very sorry this
what triggered me I think this

1175
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,450
some this is bigger than

1176
01:09:54,810 --> 01:09:57,600
this was this. This was just the
kickoff. This was the kickoff

1177
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,490
media blitz. Then

1178
01:09:59,490 --> 01:10:03,030
we it was soft pedal. There's
nothing going on. Don't worry

1179
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:05,520
about this the American public's
getting, by the way from all to

1180
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,880
me from all media, as if if you
know what's really, you know,

1181
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,700
you have some sense of this, you
immediately have to say to

1182
01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:15,510
yourself, whoa, but the US is
not the way to report. But

1183
01:10:15,510 --> 01:10:15,870
what's

1184
01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:19,590
but what's interesting, is
because because I was so focused

1185
01:10:19,590 --> 01:10:26,760
on European press for the Dutch
referendum, they're all in Oh,

1186
01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:30,510
totally. They're all a holes,
everybody. No one noticed that

1187
01:10:30,510 --> 01:10:35,310
neither American, prominent
politicians or celebrities were

1188
01:10:35,310 --> 01:10:38,700
mentioned, nor were there any
Dutch mentioned that. Yeah,

1189
01:10:38,700 --> 01:10:42,270
they're forthcoming. Yeah, be
forthcoming. They have like, oh,

1190
01:10:42,270 --> 01:10:45,570
there's 24 People in the
database is all forthcoming. So

1191
01:10:45,570 --> 01:10:48,480
the data but they're all They're
all in there all. Oh, we believe

1192
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:50,700
that anything that comes out of
that database in Europe, I'm

1193
01:10:50,700 --> 01:10:53,940
just going to assert will be
believed

1194
01:10:54,810 --> 01:10:58,500
100% I don't know how much is
actually going to come out. But

1195
01:10:58,500 --> 01:11:01,080
let's go on to Democracy Now.
Which takes this a little

1196
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:07,230
differently. They kind of on it
and but they're not. They're not

1197
01:11:08,490 --> 01:11:11,040
they don't they're still more
concerned about gay rights.

1198
01:11:11,310 --> 01:11:14,520
Yeah, I got some stuff on that
first to Democracy Now. The

1199
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,460
Panama Papers and Obama data.
There's also the Obama quotes in

1200
01:11:17,460 --> 01:11:20,280
here too, but you had a better
version with the longer Obama

1201
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,500
hemming and hawing about how
it's actually legal, it's

1202
01:11:22,500 --> 01:11:25,980
legalised in a country which is
this is all legal what's going

1203
01:11:25,980 --> 01:11:28,650
on and and we just need to fix
the loopholes.

1204
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,030
You can take that to the bank.

1205
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,400
His sound bites are gonna be
pretty ugly man. When when

1206
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:40,350
someone his blind trust comes to
floats to the top I'm gonna

1207
01:11:40,350 --> 01:11:41,340
study I'm most disposed to

1208
01:11:41,370 --> 01:11:44,370
Iceland's Prime Minister has
resigned becoming the first

1209
01:11:44,370 --> 01:11:47,700
major casualty of the Panama
Papers revelations.

1210
01:11:47,730 --> 01:11:53,610
I love the word casualty. It's a
good one. The I'm sayin? Yeah,

1211
01:11:53,610 --> 01:11:57,720
I totally agree with leaked
documents from the Panama based

1212
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:57,990
law

1213
01:11:57,990 --> 01:12:01,470
fire truck was hit by a truck

1214
01:12:01,590 --> 01:12:05,610
guilty of the Panama Papers
revelations. leaked documents

1215
01:12:05,610 --> 01:12:09,540
from the Panama based law firm
Mossack Fonseca revealed that

1216
01:12:09,540 --> 01:12:13,140
the Prime Minister Sigmundur
David Gunnlaugsson, owned an

1217
01:12:13,170 --> 01:12:16,650
offshore company with his wife,
which he failed to declare when

1218
01:12:16,650 --> 01:12:19,860
he entered parliament. He's
accused of concealing millions

1219
01:12:19,860 --> 01:12:23,880
of dollars worth of family
assets. But Luxans resignation

1220
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,180
follow the largest public
demonstrations in Iceland's

1221
01:12:27,180 --> 01:12:30,600
history. We'll go to Reykjavik
for more on Iceland later in the

1222
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,260
broadcast. Meanwhile, President
Obama spoken out about the

1223
01:12:34,260 --> 01:12:37,380
Panama Papers while urging
Congress to close tax loopholes

1224
01:12:37,380 --> 01:12:40,530
known as inversions, in which US
corporations agreed to be bought

1225
01:12:40,530 --> 01:12:44,340
by foreign companies simply to
avoid paying US taxes. The

1226
01:12:44,340 --> 01:12:47,880
Treasury Department has unveiled
new regulations to try to limit

1227
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,810
this process. On Tuesday, Obama
said that many in the United

1228
01:12:51,810 --> 01:12:55,050
States were taking advantage of
legal loopholes to avoid US

1229
01:12:55,050 --> 01:12:55,800
taxes.

1230
01:12:56,250 --> 01:13:00,510
We've had another reminder, in
this big dump of data coming out

1231
01:13:00,510 --> 01:13:06,570
of Panama, that tax avoidance is
a big global problem. It's not

1232
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,320
unique to other countries,
because frankly, there are folks

1233
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,980
here in America who are taking
advantage of the same stuff. A

1234
01:13:13,980 --> 01:13:18,540
lot of it's legal. But that's
exactly the problem. It's not

1235
01:13:18,540 --> 01:13:20,850
that they're breaking the laws
is that the laws are so poorly

1236
01:13:20,850 --> 01:13:24,300
designed that they allow people
if they've got enough lawyers

1237
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:28,140
and enough accountants to wiggle
out of responsibilities that

1238
01:13:28,380 --> 01:13:31,170
ordinary citizens are having to
abide by.

1239
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:36,330
It's thin, but it sounded to me
like, oh, you know, the Obama

1240
01:13:36,330 --> 01:13:39,990
administration was all over this
tax thing curve coincidentally,

1241
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:43,530
and have just kind of set up
some kind of things that we're

1242
01:13:43,530 --> 01:13:46,230
not going to go in depth on, but
they're all over this inversion

1243
01:13:46,230 --> 01:13:46,620
thing.

1244
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,220
Well, of course, this has
nothing to do with inversion

1245
01:13:50,220 --> 01:13:51,150
whatsoever.

1246
01:13:51,180 --> 01:13:53,310
No, but if you want me to
continue with the clip,

1247
01:13:53,340 --> 01:13:53,910
everybody wanted

1248
01:13:53,940 --> 01:13:56,430
he liked to put the two
together. So because inversion

1249
01:13:56,430 --> 01:13:58,920
is a big deal, and there's
happens to be this giant

1250
01:13:58,950 --> 01:14:04,590
inversion play out there right
now with Pfizer and Allergan

1251
01:14:05,340 --> 01:14:08,880
Irish drug company advisors
trying to sell a sell them and

1252
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,610
Brian Kim an Irish company and
we're not putting it we're not

1253
01:14:11,610 --> 01:14:13,650
going for not not happening

1254
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,950
right. But that's that's the
kind of binding that into these

1255
01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:17,370
Panama

1256
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,420
because it's easier to deal with
and now we can play these

1257
01:14:21,420 --> 01:14:22,380
documents again.

1258
01:14:22,530 --> 01:14:26,850
Also on Tuesday, pharmaceutical
giant Pfizer reportedly decided

1259
01:14:26,850 --> 01:14:30,930
to abandon plans to merge with
the Ireland based drug maker

1260
01:14:30,930 --> 01:14:34,440
Allergan following the unveiling
of the Treasury Department's new

1261
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:39,600
rules. The deal would have
allowed Pfizer to avoid billions

1262
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,570
and US taxes and would have been
one of the largest corporate

1263
01:14:42,570 --> 01:14:47,040
inversions in US history. This
comes as the Panama Papers have

1264
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,850
revealed at least 200 US
citizens who use the Panama

1265
01:14:50,850 --> 01:14:54,690
based law firm Mossack Fonseca,
the world's fourth largest

1266
01:14:54,690 --> 01:14:57,990
offshore law firm. The list
includes Robert miracle of

1267
01:14:57,990 --> 01:15:01,170
Bellevue Washington, who's
serving at 13 year sentence from

1268
01:15:01,170 --> 01:15:04,350
multimillion dollar Ponzi scheme
based on investments in

1269
01:15:04,350 --> 01:15:07,680
Indonesian oil fields, and
Benjamin way head of the private

1270
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,920
equity firm New York global
group, where he was indicted

1271
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,830
last year on securities fraud.
Since the beginning of the

1272
01:15:13,830 --> 01:15:17,610
publication of the Panama Papers
on Sunday, many have questioned

1273
01:15:17,610 --> 01:15:21,270
my more US citizens and
companies have not been named in

1274
01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:25,620
the articles analysing more than
11 and a half million secret

1275
01:15:25,620 --> 01:15:28,890
file some question go to
democracy now.org To see our

1276
01:15:28,890 --> 01:15:32,280
full discussion about the Panama
Papers yesterday.

1277
01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:34,920
Why did you go there you find
out anything you learn about

1278
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,150
in Europe refugees continue to
stage protest to demand

1279
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,780
you can stop Yeah, okay. I don't
know why it was continued. But

1280
01:15:42,780 --> 01:15:45,900
the couple things did first day
they named two guys who are in

1281
01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:49,770
jail already. Yeah. But that's
kind of a safe bet. Not to worry

1282
01:15:49,770 --> 01:15:55,290
about demeaning anybody. There's
others that have to be named I'm

1283
01:15:55,290 --> 01:15:57,540
not sure what what their I think
is going to be you're going to

1284
01:15:57,540 --> 01:16:01,470
find P I don't want to say or
predict any particular name is

1285
01:16:01,470 --> 01:16:05,490
separate the Bernie Madoff I can
name I can think of a number of

1286
01:16:05,490 --> 01:16:07,680
athletes who probably got
involved in his athletes,

1287
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,080
professional athletes make
millions and millions and are

1288
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,050
worth some close to a billion
dollars in some instances are

1289
01:16:13,050 --> 01:16:15,000
suckers for this stuff. Yeah.

1290
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:21,300
How about this to expand? What
if the made off money, which

1291
01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:24,690
you've all been led to believe
was a Ponzi scheme, which was a

1292
01:16:24,690 --> 01:16:31,650
pretty, pretty easy excuse. What
if that was actually laundered

1293
01:16:31,650 --> 01:16:36,210
for the drugs possible? And
everybody knew it like this is

1294
01:16:36,210 --> 01:16:39,300
this is we're making money hand
over foot here. So they had a

1295
01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:42,120
double double. This is real
conspiratorial, but they had a

1296
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:46,170
double double booking system. So
they made it look like they were

1297
01:16:46,170 --> 01:16:48,690
doing a Ponzi scheme. But really
everyone was benefit on

1298
01:16:48,690 --> 01:16:52,590
G scheme as a front for money
laundering, right? So pretty

1299
01:16:52,590 --> 01:16:54,330
extreme, but it's a funny idea.

1300
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:58,230
Why not? And everybody was I can
see Kevin Bacon going drug

1301
01:16:58,230 --> 01:17:02,520
money, um, consumer money, do
it?

1302
01:17:03,210 --> 01:17:06,990
Well, in Panama, you know, where
Noriega was once running the

1303
01:17:06,990 --> 01:17:11,400
places of visit the Tories hub,
even though they play it up as a

1304
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:12,120
financial,

1305
01:17:12,150 --> 01:17:15,330
I'm afraid to call I'm afraid to
call uncle Don about this one.

1306
01:17:15,330 --> 01:17:18,420
This is not a good idea. I
shouldn't be talking to him

1307
01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:20,070
about anything Panama or

1308
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,370
or Nicaragua related?

1309
01:17:24,030 --> 01:17:29,310
Probably not. We have to go on
our own on just one thing. So I

1310
01:17:29,310 --> 01:17:31,650
expect more and more stuff to
come on. Now. Deutsche Avella

1311
01:17:32,010 --> 01:17:35,880
had a nice little exposition on
this and I and they're German.

1312
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,870
So I think you know, it still
doesn't do the job of the list

1313
01:17:40,020 --> 01:17:45,060
that Ensler had on her tweet,
right. But, but it's at least

1314
01:17:45,060 --> 01:17:47,850
getting closer but we're not
seeing anything like what you're

1315
01:17:47,850 --> 01:17:52,320
going to hear on on DW in the
United States. I don't know how

1316
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,450
long they're going to be able to
put this off. But this reminds

1317
01:17:54,450 --> 01:17:59,100
me of how they remember during
the early days of of Occupy,

1318
01:18:00,060 --> 01:18:02,730
that we were like the only two
people talking

1319
01:18:02,730 --> 01:18:06,600
about it. Talking about it.
Yeah, there was 0000. Yeah.

1320
01:18:07,260 --> 01:18:09,480
So let's hear this rap. That's

1321
01:18:09,480 --> 01:18:12,240
correct. Here in Germany, the
German Justice Minister Heiko

1322
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,810
Maas says the cover up must end
he announced plans for a

1323
01:18:15,810 --> 01:18:18,960
national registry that would
force shell companies to reveal

1324
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,840
the identity of its owners.
That's a response to the Panama

1325
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,330
Papers, which as you know,
leaked decade's worth of

1326
01:18:24,330 --> 01:18:28,110
documents from Masaka Fonseca
detailing how clients hide their

1327
01:18:28,110 --> 01:18:30,450
cash. Let's take a look at that.
Now. The law firm is

1328
01:18:30,450 --> 01:18:34,890
headquartered in Panama. But not
all of its 200,000 shell

1329
01:18:34,890 --> 01:18:38,400
companies are actually based
they're less than 50,000 are.

1330
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:42,570
Most are in fact located in the
British Virgin Islands, which is

1331
01:18:42,690 --> 01:18:47,190
a UK territory, though not
subject to EU law. Another

1332
01:18:47,190 --> 01:18:50,760
favourite tax haven for the firm
are the islands off the coast of

1333
01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:53,970
East Africa, known as the
Seychelles, also a very nice

1334
01:18:53,970 --> 01:18:56,760
place to go on holidays if
you're a millionaire. Know

1335
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,150
Mossack Fonseca has opened
accounts all over the world in

1336
01:19:00,150 --> 01:19:03,750
the United States, Europe and
Asia. And it's done it with the

1337
01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:05,520
help of hundreds of banks.

1338
01:19:07,170 --> 01:19:10,590
More than 500 banks from around
the world set up offshore

1339
01:19:10,590 --> 01:19:13,440
companies for their clients
through the Masek Fonseca law

1340
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:16,830
firm in Panama. The banks
include big names like British

1341
01:19:16,830 --> 01:19:21,570
financial giant HSBC, Swiss
banks, Cuddy, Suisse and UBS,

1342
01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:26,340
along with French lender Societe
Generale. At least 28 German

1343
01:19:26,340 --> 01:19:29,790
banks allegedly took part in the
dealings, including Germany's

1344
01:19:29,820 --> 01:19:33,270
largest lender, Deutsche Bank,
customers holding offshore

1345
01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:36,930
accounts in Panama can now
expect to hear from authorities.

1346
01:19:40,260 --> 01:19:43,380
Well, we need to investigate the
individual cases where they've

1347
01:19:43,380 --> 01:19:46,710
got people holding their money
offshore. You know, some of it

1348
01:19:46,710 --> 01:19:50,640
will be technically legal. I'm
sure some of it won't be. But we

1349
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,820
need accountability. You know,
if you are a rich, powerful

1350
01:19:53,820 --> 01:19:56,940
individual, and you're not
paying your taxes by having your

1351
01:19:56,940 --> 01:20:00,450
money offshore, that is
fundamentally unfair. undermines

1352
01:20:00,450 --> 01:20:03,150
our democracy but also means
that we don't have the money

1353
01:20:03,150 --> 01:20:04,650
that's needed for public
services.

1354
01:20:05,250 --> 01:20:08,310
Some of the banks involved have
already stressed that setting up

1355
01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:11,820
offshore companies is not
illegal. And business activities

1356
01:20:11,850 --> 01:20:15,240
are strictly regulated. And the
role banks play in helping their

1357
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:19,650
customers hide money comes as
little surprise. In late 2015.

1358
01:20:19,650 --> 01:20:24,000
Germany's comments bank agreed
to pay 17 million euros in fines

1359
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:29,610
because of GBS business dealings
in Panama and Luxembourg. Yeah,

1360
01:20:30,390 --> 01:20:33,690
that's just that. And of course,
they did say that was somewhat

1361
01:20:33,690 --> 01:20:37,020
downplayed, too. Yeah. Oh, you
know, it's legal to do this.

1362
01:20:37,050 --> 01:20:40,650
How about this? The made off
kids were running the drug

1363
01:20:40,650 --> 01:20:44,520
laundering. They snookered the
old dude, if the thinking he was

1364
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,370
just running a simple Ponzi
scheme, we know that you know,

1365
01:20:47,370 --> 01:20:50,700
the both sides. This you're hung
up on this, though sons are

1366
01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:54,480
dead. Yeah, I like it. But so
Andrew made off died in 2014.

1367
01:20:54,480 --> 01:20:57,570
The last you know, he was still
under investigation at that

1368
01:20:57,570 --> 01:21:02,160
time. But those guys, those kids
didn't go to jail. I don't know.

1369
01:21:02,190 --> 01:21:04,980
I'm just I'm just throwing out
throwing pebbles on the

1370
01:21:04,980 --> 01:21:08,370
screen a lot more to throw out
as more it depends on how this

1371
01:21:08,370 --> 01:21:12,150
is going to be handled. Now we
have Soros who may well be one

1372
01:21:12,150 --> 01:21:15,360
of the guys, although I don't
get the sense that he needs to

1373
01:21:16,050 --> 01:21:20,280
pull schemes like this. Well,
how are we this amateur hour to

1374
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,470
do this stuff? To me?

1375
01:21:22,620 --> 01:21:26,250
Well, someone came in and said,
We'll do fancy infographics. And

1376
01:21:26,250 --> 01:21:28,830
that'll give us credibility. And
we'll will launch it with a

1377
01:21:28,830 --> 01:21:33,240
couple of pollutants and we'll
launch it with somebody got to

1378
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,150
slow down. We gotta we gotta
launch it's long.

1379
01:21:36,750 --> 01:21:38,940
Already scammed money. But I

1380
01:21:38,940 --> 01:21:41,730
mean, really, they're worried
about $1 billion, please. And

1381
01:21:41,730 --> 01:21:44,250
Putin is going, mitt, You
insulted me. He's what he's

1382
01:21:44,250 --> 01:21:47,220
doing. 1 billion, that's
nothing. It's nothing.

1383
01:21:50,370 --> 01:21:53,730
This is anyway, this is the
story that I think we unless

1384
01:21:53,730 --> 01:21:56,970
they depends on where those
documents are, if they're held

1385
01:21:56,970 --> 01:21:59,250
by more than one if they don't
have backup somewhere or

1386
01:21:59,250 --> 01:22:03,780
something. I'm you know, the
documents could all disappear.

1387
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,440
If they're ever Word documents.
Well, let's say there are no I'm

1388
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:10,830
just I'm assuming there are.
They're not taking you I can do

1389
01:22:10,830 --> 01:22:14,190
to the other thing, too. But I'm
not going No. But then I believe

1390
01:22:14,190 --> 01:22:16,830
there is a terabyte of material,
right? So

1391
01:22:16,830 --> 01:22:18,990
we should have the leaks of the
leaks pretty soon.

1392
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,250
There should be some leaks of
leaks. And it could because

1393
01:22:23,250 --> 01:22:26,280
these journalists who are being
paid by these journalists aren't

1394
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,230
gonna care how much money
they're not making anything.

1395
01:22:28,500 --> 01:22:36,000
Still. 400 400 is quite a bit.
What 400 They say in their own

1396
01:22:36,030 --> 01:22:39,030
by their own admission? 400
journalists are being had been

1397
01:22:39,030 --> 01:22:40,770
paid for a year to work on this.

1398
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,670
Yeah. Those 400 journalists and
they can't keep their mouth

1399
01:22:44,670 --> 01:22:48,870
shut. And then if they suspect
that something hinky is going

1400
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:51,780
on, if their investigative
journalists word this all night

1401
01:22:51,780 --> 01:22:54,690
is more or less likely, they
they're they're talented enough

1402
01:22:54,690 --> 01:22:59,370
to be there. They will get and
by the way, anything of any

1403
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:03,030
chance of you running into one
of these 400 towns and make a

1404
01:23:03,420 --> 01:23:07,230
full copy. It's only like what
how many thumb drives? Is it?

1405
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,300
You can get a terabyte thumb
drive now?

1406
01:23:09,809 --> 01:23:11,129
Yeah, yeah.

1407
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:12,330
So he's Reese thumb drives.

1408
01:23:12,330 --> 01:23:13,440
Yeah, that's easy.

1409
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:19,230
Yeah, but anyway, so USB three
is pretty fast. You could

1410
01:23:19,230 --> 01:23:20,130
download it just

1411
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,370
just to help help for a second.
Whoo. Because I'm of course

1412
01:23:23,370 --> 01:23:26,070
interested, I am going to focus
in the next few days. I'm

1413
01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:30,780
focusing on the made off
connection. Love that. But also,

1414
01:23:31,980 --> 01:23:37,620
you know what Intelligence
Organisation organisations when

1415
01:23:37,620 --> 01:23:39,810
we think are a part of this?

1416
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,380
I mean, who are they after the I
mean, this is maybe one of those

1417
01:23:43,380 --> 01:23:47,130
deals of course, I'd pick this
idea up from watching too many

1418
01:23:48,180 --> 01:23:53,160
really old lawn orders type of
dramas, yes. Which is that

1419
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:58,680
sometimes, and I get the sense
this goes on every so often, you

1420
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,410
want to kill someone is you're
an intelligence agency, you

1421
01:24:01,410 --> 01:24:05,040
targeted somebody. And you don't
want to make it obvious that you

1422
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,370
killed them. So you kill a whole
bunch of people. And they just

1423
01:24:08,370 --> 01:24:11,820
happen to be in the group,
right? And then no one figures

1424
01:24:11,820 --> 01:24:14,310
out that would there was just a
targeted killing of this one

1425
01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:18,990
guy. So as it might be good that
might be going on because let's

1426
01:24:18,990 --> 01:24:20,970
face it, the people that are
involved in these kinds of

1427
01:24:20,970 --> 01:24:25,440
sketchy shell companies in the
Seychelles and British Virgin

1428
01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:30,120
Islands. They're douchebags.
Yeah. So what if they get

1429
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,820
burned? I mean, there's been a
bunch I've been seeing tweets,

1430
01:24:33,150 --> 01:24:36,270
oh my god, they're meant naming
names without doing any other

1431
01:24:36,270 --> 01:24:40,140
naming. They're just merging the
reputation of these various

1432
01:24:40,140 --> 01:24:44,370
people who are doing business
with a Panamanian law firms who

1433
01:24:44,370 --> 01:24:49,170
specialise in setting up sketchy
operations. Yeah. Okay, so they

1434
01:24:49,170 --> 01:24:51,480
got mentioned that they're part
of the big sweep.

1435
01:24:51,780 --> 01:24:55,830
Well, the this would be
extremely handy for democracy.

1436
01:24:56,340 --> 01:24:59,460
You know, it's like, oh, look,
hey, pay public. Look at the

1437
01:24:59,460 --> 01:25:02,580
horrible All the stealing that
your leader has done, but isn't

1438
01:25:02,580 --> 01:25:05,160
it time to revolt? I mean,
that's what we're gonna see.

1439
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,890
That's USA ID that's that's
their involvement if they're

1440
01:25:07,890 --> 01:25:10,050
involved, but they are certainly
contributing to this.

1441
01:25:12,269 --> 01:25:16,379
USA ID these media believe is
one of our agencies. Which one I

1442
01:25:16,379 --> 01:25:19,079
don't know, this is not
overthrowing a government. But

1443
01:25:19,079 --> 01:25:22,799
this is a new data. And for me,
this really seems like NSA. But

1444
01:25:23,159 --> 01:25:28,619
then again, I don't know. I wish
we could hopefully, I think

1445
01:25:28,619 --> 01:25:32,879
within the next 30 days, we
should be able to kind of figure

1446
01:25:32,909 --> 01:25:32,969
out,

1447
01:25:33,390 --> 01:25:37,620
Hey, let's go back for a second.
What if your Russia idea is

1448
01:25:37,620 --> 01:25:42,180
correct? You know, throw, throw
a couple, throw a couple of

1449
01:25:42,180 --> 01:25:45,990
people out there toss a few to
the wolves that I can't eat SB

1450
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:48,120
being behind that. Yeah. Hey,
look at this cellist okay,

1451
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,640
there's your Putin connection
onward. Now, let's look at

1452
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,340
stuff. You know, you really hit
me with the Obama thing where

1453
01:25:53,340 --> 01:25:55,680
he's saying, Oh, it's not
illegal. It's not illegal. Adult

1454
01:25:55,740 --> 01:25:59,100
doth protest too much we think
of? Yeah,

1455
01:25:59,250 --> 01:25:59,820
totally.

1456
01:26:01,500 --> 01:26:05,460
FSB and it would be really
tricky. And we have, everybody

1457
01:26:05,460 --> 01:26:09,030
already knows about Putin being
loaded. And it's like, Well,

1458
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:11,430
okay, raise Putin is out. Well,
that's how he did it. Why don't

1459
01:26:11,430 --> 01:26:13,050
what do you do with all that
money? Oh, there it is. And

1460
01:26:13,050 --> 01:26:14,850
there's a cellist that made a
bunch of money. You know, he's

1461
01:26:14,850 --> 01:26:20,940
one of our best cellists. He
deserves $6 million. Could be

1462
01:26:21,660 --> 01:26:24,600
and yeah, that would be a good
Nothing to see here. Kind of a

1463
01:26:24,660 --> 01:26:29,430
way to go. Just if Putin tested
you know, get it's not going to

1464
01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:31,500
hurt his reputation. I don't
think in the country, the

1465
01:26:31,530 --> 01:26:34,830
Russians have that kind of
attitude. But so they might be

1466
01:26:34,830 --> 01:26:38,400
after Obama or they might be who
knows who or Hillary although I

1467
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:39,510
think that Hillary's

1468
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,830
Obama came out so quickly with
his response to this. Yeah, it

1469
01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:47,070
was very, very much quicker than
anything of you. It took weeks

1470
01:26:47,070 --> 01:26:51,180
before he said anything about
what's what's her name? Carol

1471
01:26:51,180 --> 01:26:58,560
Manning. Chelsea Manning Yeah,
Carol. Carol and Carol Manning.

1472
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:04,110
Chanting I will keep our eye on
I will probably learn something

1473
01:27:04,110 --> 01:27:04,680
pretty soon.

1474
01:27:05,700 --> 01:27:10,680
Well, whatever. I think this is
a fantastic moment in just have

1475
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:11,430
some fun with

1476
01:27:11,460 --> 01:27:13,530
propaganda history. This is a
big one.

1477
01:27:13,890 --> 01:27:15,900
It's gonna be a lot of digging
to be able to play this all

1478
01:27:15,900 --> 01:27:17,580
kinds of different ways. And
we're going to be able to

1479
01:27:17,580 --> 01:27:22,920
deconstruct it and keep keep our
listeners and producers happy.

1480
01:27:22,980 --> 01:27:26,370
Yes. Now I'm going to transition
out of this was some other

1481
01:27:26,370 --> 01:27:29,010
shenanigans that were going on
regarding banking. That was

1482
01:27:29,010 --> 01:27:33,030
very, very confusing. And our
man Matt Lee, who has now twice

1483
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:35,370
tweeted me, he'll take me up on
the offer for free beer in

1484
01:27:35,370 --> 01:27:42,240
Austin when he gets here. I'll
buy him 10 I bet he's a drinker.

1485
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:42,840
What do you think?

1486
01:27:43,710 --> 01:27:46,500
Well, the problem is not
normally the old journalist

1487
01:27:46,500 --> 01:27:50,100
thing as you try to get people
kind of like saw enough sauce.

1488
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,270
But because you're such a
lightweight, oh, yeah, you'll

1489
01:27:54,270 --> 01:27:56,670
get us sauce. And you can tell
him all kinds of stuff.

1490
01:27:56,670 --> 01:27:59,250
But I'll bring Tino along. So
keep an eye on me.

1491
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,160
If you the elbow to the man. She
cannot. She cannot drink

1492
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:02,670
anybody. I'm

1493
01:28:02,670 --> 01:28:04,770
sure. That's good. I have a
feeling

1494
01:28:05,250 --> 01:28:06,990
well, just insulted her.

1495
01:28:08,670 --> 01:28:12,510
I was trying to retract it like,
nice dress from Chicago, man.

1496
01:28:12,510 --> 01:28:15,600
Come on from Chicago. These
girls don't mess around. Yeah.

1497
01:28:16,350 --> 01:28:17,760
She's a great wing man. Yeah,
good.

1498
01:28:19,590 --> 01:28:20,640
He keep digging, keep

1499
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:26,130
digging. Yeah. She knows what I
mean. Thanks, John. All right,

1500
01:28:26,130 --> 01:28:31,770
Matt Lee. So there's a some
something that Rubio brought up

1501
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:38,460
in the Senate, about Iran and
the sanctions on them using the

1502
01:28:38,460 --> 01:28:43,800
United States financial system.
And it was very, you know, I'm

1503
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,960
not quite sure exactly what
Rubio said, but it does come up

1504
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,840
in this clip and Matt Lee is
questioning not to Kirby with

1505
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,170
the other douchebag who's
actually better, but it's it's

1506
01:28:52,170 --> 01:28:54,450
also funnier when He's flustered
because he's

1507
01:28:54,990 --> 01:28:56,280
sort of he's gotta go he's just

1508
01:28:57,870 --> 01:29:02,580
brought this up. And well, this
it may be somehow related. Maybe

1509
01:29:02,580 --> 01:29:07,890
the all the noise about the
Panama Papers you know, kept the

1510
01:29:07,890 --> 01:29:10,290
attention away from this the
question

1511
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:14,850
that was raised to Ambassador
Shannon yesterday and the

1512
01:29:14,850 --> 01:29:18,660
Foreign Relations Committee that
was most that that more directly

1513
01:29:18,660 --> 01:29:21,750
addressed what it is that we
understand the administration is

1514
01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:26,250
considering was raised by
Senator Rubio and that is the

1515
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:33,090
allowing non Iranian and non US
banks to do trades and dollars

1516
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:39,660
for deals that involve Iran as
long as the dollars don't end up

1517
01:29:39,660 --> 01:29:39,930
and

1518
01:29:40,799 --> 01:29:44,039
my understanding is that is not
what's under consideration.

1519
01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:46,770
What is under consideration I'm

1520
01:29:46,770 --> 01:29:51,810
not gonna say except to say that
No, no, ma'am. Just to clarify,

1521
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:52,860
I mean, I mean, okay,

1522
01:29:52,860 --> 01:29:55,740
let me because the fact that is
what we understand as being I

1523
01:29:55,740 --> 01:29:56,430
understand

1524
01:29:56,460 --> 01:30:03,210
that you Okay, so at issue here,
you is with the lifting of the

1525
01:30:03,210 --> 01:30:06,420
sanctions in the Iran deal,
which the President has said

1526
01:30:06,420 --> 01:30:09,000
they're not really keeping to
the spirit of the agreement,

1527
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:12,570
although they are to the letter,
we have to allow them to do

1528
01:30:12,570 --> 01:30:18,150
certain things, to not directly
access our financial system,

1529
01:30:18,210 --> 01:30:20,670
because that is a sanction that
is in place because you know,

1530
01:30:20,670 --> 01:30:24,750
all the other stuff that Iran
might do. But apparently, we are

1531
01:30:24,750 --> 01:30:30,690
helping them figure out ways to
shuffle money around. I don't

1532
01:30:30,690 --> 01:30:33,330
know if that goes through Panama
or not, but just it was

1533
01:30:33,330 --> 01:30:36,180
coincidentally that they're
working on this at the same time

1534
01:30:36,180 --> 01:30:36,840
leave, that's what's

1535
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:41,460
being considered? Well, what I
would say is that we continue to

1536
01:30:41,790 --> 01:30:48,720
advise banks and other
governments on ways that they

1537
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:54,900
can conduct business with Iran
in a way that does not violate

1538
01:30:54,900 --> 01:30:59,910
existing US sanctions. And there
are ways to do that, but it does

1539
01:30:59,910 --> 01:31:07,170
not involve banks converting
money to dollars, or otherwise

1540
01:31:07,170 --> 01:31:10,860
inherent it actually inherently
does so but it does because

1541
01:31:10,860 --> 01:31:15,000
because, as you know, the
international commerce finance

1542
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:18,900
is structured in such a way that
huge amounts of transactions

1543
01:31:18,900 --> 01:31:21,930
from currency a to currency see
go through currency B, which is

1544
01:31:21,930 --> 01:31:25,350
the but anyway, so you're saying
right now that you guys are out

1545
01:31:25,350 --> 01:31:31,560
there, you guys are out there
coaching? Advise advising, but

1546
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:37,350
that's that's coaching banks and
businesses, how to do do away?

1547
01:31:37,470 --> 01:31:39,720
Well, you're you say you're
advising them how to close

1548
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:44,040
deals, and that you can avoid
the US sanctions,

1549
01:31:44,070 --> 01:31:46,920
they think that would work
through Panama would be one way

1550
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:47,580
to do it.

1551
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:50,520
I don't think that's necessary.

1552
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,850
I don't think so either. But
they're really sketchy about

1553
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:58,950
explaining how pretty much the
US State Department and or the

1554
01:31:58,950 --> 01:32:02,160
administration is saying, Hey,
if you want to do business and

1555
01:32:02,190 --> 01:32:04,830
not break the sanctions, here's
this little quick place, you can

1556
01:32:04,830 --> 01:32:08,640
exchange everything and, and
mums the word.

1557
01:32:09,900 --> 01:32:14,190
I mean, it's possible but I at
this point, no, I don't think

1558
01:32:14,190 --> 01:32:18,480
anything is gonna go through
Panama for a while. I don't

1559
01:32:18,480 --> 01:32:22,170
know. It's interesting, though.
I like to use in coaching is

1560
01:32:22,170 --> 01:32:24,330
exactly what we're doing. Yeah,
coaching for sure. You want to

1561
01:32:24,540 --> 01:32:28,050
you want to be advised. And
coaching is a synonym there. But

1562
01:32:28,470 --> 01:32:32,100
it has a different implication.
Do I hear the kid you can do it

1563
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,830
now? No, no, no, no, you're not
doing it. Right.

1564
01:32:37,620 --> 01:32:39,270
You want to hear the rest? Or?
Yeah, no,

1565
01:32:39,269 --> 01:32:41,549
I'm always interested in what
Matt's got to say.

1566
01:32:43,290 --> 01:32:46,050
What I would say in response,
that really the role, what I

1567
01:32:46,050 --> 01:32:51,630
would say in response is that as
Iran complies with the JCPOA,

1568
01:32:51,900 --> 01:32:55,920
and receives a certain amount of
sanctions relief, it is

1569
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,410
incumbent on us and Secretary
spoke about this the other day

1570
01:32:58,410 --> 01:33:02,040
is incumbent on us to live up to
our end of this deal, which is

1571
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:08,070
to and part of that is, you
know, is to advise these banks

1572
01:33:08,070 --> 01:33:09,720
and governments on ways that
they can

1573
01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:11,370
avoid us

1574
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,000
precisely that they can Well, I
mean, that they can work.

1575
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:20,490
I don't around

1576
01:33:20,610 --> 01:33:23,850
I don't necessarily use the idea
of coaching. I think it's it's

1577
01:33:23,850 --> 01:33:28,140
simply it's our obligation as
part of the JCPOA to advise them

1578
01:33:28,890 --> 01:33:31,980
that they don't I mean, these
banks don't want to violate your

1579
01:33:31,980 --> 01:33:33,630
existing US sanctions, right.

1580
01:33:33,900 --> 01:33:36,540
So you're telling them, Hey,
here's what they are, but they

1581
01:33:36,540 --> 01:33:40,500
are, but they are basically
telling foreign banks and

1582
01:33:40,500 --> 01:33:43,680
foreign companies how they can
use loopholes and us not

1583
01:33:43,710 --> 01:33:49,530
now. Not inaccurate, inaccurate,
but well, okay, well, what

1584
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:50,430
would they what is it?

1585
01:33:52,770 --> 01:33:54,420
They don't want to talk about
it. That's for sure.

1586
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:58,350
loophole. It's not a loophole.
Yeah, it is.

1587
01:33:58,410 --> 01:33:59,400
It's a loophole.

1588
01:33:59,490 --> 01:34:02,010
That's very funny. And guy's
good.

1589
01:34:03,330 --> 01:34:12,030
He gets no respect, I tell you,
as LGBTQ q ia P stuff. If you're

1590
01:34:12,030 --> 01:34:12,870
interested in that,

1591
01:34:13,620 --> 01:34:16,890
we can do that. Or I can discuss
the it's maybe good time to talk

1592
01:34:16,890 --> 01:34:22,560
about the party and, or
Manhattan and then go to that,

1593
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,680
or you can go to that and we can
do that after that way. Or why

1594
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:29,040
don't why don't we just do this
as a little ahead of the game

1595
01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:30,900
right now. It's good. I
definitely have

1596
01:34:30,900 --> 01:34:33,960
one clip of the Mississippi
thing. Okay, let

1597
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:35,520
me hear your clip, Mississippi.

1598
01:34:35,790 --> 01:34:38,490
Did you see my SSI SSI PP I

1599
01:34:38,490 --> 01:34:41,370
had so much fun checking my
spelling on that the past couple

1600
01:34:41,370 --> 01:34:44,010
of days very little ditty that
we learned with your

1601
01:34:44,010 --> 01:34:45,810
environment. My SSI SSI ppi,

1602
01:34:46,260 --> 01:34:50,130
Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant
has signed a sweeping anti LGBT

1603
01:34:50,130 --> 01:34:53,070
law, which will allow
organisations and businesses to

1604
01:34:53,070 --> 01:34:56,880
deny people an array of services
based on religious objections.

1605
01:34:57,060 --> 01:35:00,210
Opponents say the new law set to
take effect in July. It will

1606
01:35:00,210 --> 01:35:04,590
legalise discrimination against
LGBT people. American Civil

1607
01:35:04,590 --> 01:35:07,800
Liberties Union of Mississippi
head Jennifer Riley, Colin said

1608
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,040
quote, this is a sad day for the
state of Mississippi. And for

1609
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,460
the 1000s of Mississippians who
can now be turned away from

1610
01:35:14,460 --> 01:35:17,880
businesses refuse marriage
licences or denied housing

1611
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,960
essential services and needed
care based on who they are. And

1612
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:26,400
quote, on Tuesday, Chad Gryphon
of the Human Rights Campaign

1613
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:30,270
compared Mississippi's law to
the anti LGBT law have recently

1614
01:35:30,270 --> 01:35:31,830
passed in North Carolina,

1615
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:36,540
Mississippi needs only to look
as far as North Carolina to see

1616
01:35:36,540 --> 01:35:41,010
how damaging discrimination can
be to a state's reputation and

1617
01:35:41,010 --> 01:35:42,030
to a state's economy.

1618
01:35:42,150 --> 01:35:44,610
Madison. All right. Yeah, that's

1619
01:35:44,610 --> 01:35:46,860
pretty similar to what I got
from the other networks. I do

1620
01:35:46,860 --> 01:35:50,040
have a couple examples just so
you can hear the words that are

1621
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:54,330
being used. Because what we do,
there is one other piece of

1622
01:35:54,330 --> 01:35:59,370
land. What we do based on on
your support of the show is we

1623
01:35:59,370 --> 01:36:03,570
go and we read the documents and
we do some homework which and we

1624
01:36:03,570 --> 01:36:05,730
certainly tell you exactly
what's in it and not over

1625
01:36:05,730 --> 01:36:09,240
embellish the way it's being
done here. So that was always

1626
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:12,210
that was a democracy now. Yes.
Okay, here's ABC

1627
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,730
next here this evening to a
flashpoint the Tennessee

1628
01:36:14,730 --> 01:36:18,450
legislature weighing a vote on a
new law to protect the right of

1629
01:36:18,450 --> 01:36:21,630
counsellors to turn away
patients if treating them would

1630
01:36:21,630 --> 01:36:24,780
violate their religious beliefs.
It's the latest in a wave of

1631
01:36:24,780 --> 01:36:27,150
similar laws across this
country, including a move in

1632
01:36:27,150 --> 01:36:27,780
Mississippi

1633
01:36:27,870 --> 01:36:31,020
tonight the culture war over
same sex marriage has come to

1634
01:36:31,020 --> 01:36:34,560
Mississippi. Protesters here are
taking their outrage to Governor

1635
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:38,310
Phil Brian's door. This week. He
signed in a new law allowing

1636
01:36:38,310 --> 01:36:41,430
public and private businesses to
refuse service on religious

1637
01:36:41,430 --> 01:36:45,210
grounds to gay or transgender
people. And not just cakes,

1638
01:36:45,210 --> 01:36:48,150
flowers and wedding venues. But
adoptions certain medical

1639
01:36:48,150 --> 01:36:51,090
services and counselling critics
call it state sanctioned

1640
01:36:51,090 --> 01:36:51,750
bigotry.

1641
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:57,720
Okay, that's ABC. So clearly
LGBTQ Q is a p at the forefront

1642
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:02,460
and state sanctioned bigotry We
go now to watch this ABC again.

1643
01:37:02,670 --> 01:37:05,490
I'm sorry, we go to NBC New
State

1644
01:37:05,490 --> 01:37:08,760
new controversy, Mississippi now
embroiled in a debate over

1645
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:10,500
religious freedom and gay
rights.

1646
01:37:12,930 --> 01:37:16,140
With the stroke of his pen, the
governor of Mississippi setting

1647
01:37:16,140 --> 01:37:19,620
in motion a giant controversy
that's reverberating across the

1648
01:37:19,620 --> 01:37:23,160
country this morning. Opponents
say the new law legalises

1649
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:26,460
discrimination former instinct
singer in Mississippi native

1650
01:37:26,460 --> 01:37:30,090
lands, bass posted a sign that
reads entering Mississippi,

1651
01:37:30,270 --> 01:37:32,970
please turn your clocks back 200
years.

1652
01:37:34,290 --> 01:37:36,210
Okay, so I guess that's equating
yoke I

1653
01:37:36,210 --> 01:37:37,620
like to use Yes, I

1654
01:37:37,620 --> 01:37:39,990
think he's equating it to
slavery. And there's a lot of

1655
01:37:39,990 --> 01:37:42,390
that going on CBS their version
here

1656
01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:44,670
it's governor has banned non
essential state travel to

1657
01:37:44,670 --> 01:37:47,550
Mississippi because of that
state's so called religious

1658
01:37:47,550 --> 01:37:50,790
freedom bill and the Online
Payment Service Pay Pal is

1659
01:37:50,790 --> 01:37:53,430
cancelling plans to open a new
facility in North Carolina.

1660
01:37:53,580 --> 01:37:56,520
Citing the state's new
Transgender Law, critics say the

1661
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,070
measure discriminates against
members of the gay lesbian and

1662
01:37:59,070 --> 01:38:00,330
transgender community.

1663
01:38:01,500 --> 01:38:03,990
So there's all kinds of
universal it was seen as the

1664
01:38:03,990 --> 01:38:08,910
anti gay Bill etc, etc. I just
wanted to give you the actual

1665
01:38:08,910 --> 01:38:12,330
background on this Mississippi
bill, which is house number

1666
01:38:12,330 --> 01:38:16,710
1523. The name of it is
protecting freedom of conscience

1667
01:38:16,710 --> 01:38:22,290
from government Discrimination
Act, and it is written very

1668
01:38:22,290 --> 01:38:30,300
narrowly. And it only pertains
to the following situations in

1669
01:38:32,310 --> 01:38:39,780
so the act of Salah maizing a
marriage or services for a

1670
01:38:39,780 --> 01:38:43,500
solemn annihilation or a
marriage accommodations

1671
01:38:43,500 --> 01:38:46,740
facilities goods have privileges
for a purpose related to the

1672
01:38:46,770 --> 01:38:50,580
solemnization formation
celebration or recognition of

1673
01:38:50,580 --> 01:38:54,120
any marriage based upon or in a
manner consistent with a

1674
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:58,230
sincerely held religious belief
or moral conviction described in

1675
01:38:58,230 --> 01:39:04,620
section two. And this pertains
also to employment related

1676
01:39:04,620 --> 01:39:07,980
decisions in this sector. So
this is about the marriage

1677
01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:15,180
sector, I'd say the wedding
sector the same concerning any

1678
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,870
is an anti gay marriage.
Targeted bill.

1679
01:39:19,530 --> 01:39:23,970
Yes, but I'm just pointing a
couple things out. Okay. Go. It

1680
01:39:23,970 --> 01:39:29,520
is only is only for marriage and
not anti gay and I'll get to

1681
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:37,140
that. Now it is based upon two
inherent religious beliefs. One

1682
01:39:37,140 --> 01:39:41,490
is that marriage is between a
man and a woman and two is that

1683
01:39:41,820 --> 01:39:48,210
sex only takes place after a
marriage of a man and a woman.

1684
01:39:49,980 --> 01:39:52,980
And so what and I don't think
this is necessary this is

1685
01:39:52,980 --> 01:39:55,920
complete overkill, but it's so
stupid they've done this because

1686
01:39:56,130 --> 01:39:59,970
Hello, Sharia law. Boy, we're
going to benefit from this crap.

1687
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,520
I'm telling first thing I
thought first thing you said,

1688
01:40:02,550 --> 01:40:05,220
maybe that's the first thing you
said. Absolutely. The

1689
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:07,740
first thing I said about North
Carolina, but when this

1690
01:40:07,740 --> 01:40:11,010
happened, they said they said it
to myself again. Yeah, I

1691
01:40:11,010 --> 01:40:15,210
thought, Sharia law, redlining,
real estate, there's all kinds

1692
01:40:15,210 --> 01:40:18,150
of possibilities here that are
just completely out of control.

1693
01:40:18,180 --> 01:40:22,440
That said, I cannot see how one
lawsuit won't get this. And I

1694
01:40:22,440 --> 01:40:25,140
don't see the Supreme Court back
in this in a million years. But

1695
01:40:25,140 --> 01:40:25,530
that's

1696
01:40:25,740 --> 01:40:28,620
well beyond the from a
constitutional point. As you

1697
01:40:28,620 --> 01:40:32,670
know, I'm a constitutional
lawyer. It's really interesting,

1698
01:40:32,670 --> 01:40:36,210
because we have the Civil Rights
Act, the Civil Rights Act was

1699
01:40:36,210 --> 01:40:41,970
not about gender was about race.
And as far as I understand it,

1700
01:40:41,970 --> 01:40:45,750
you need to correct me, the
Civil Rights Act was more about

1701
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:49,650
government facilities,
government agencies, anything

1702
01:40:49,650 --> 01:40:53,610
that has to do with federal or
state governments. I'm not

1703
01:40:53,610 --> 01:40:58,470
entirely sure. I think you can
still refuse service to anybody,

1704
01:40:58,470 --> 01:41:03,510
for whatever reason, what what
this law is supposed to do is

1705
01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:06,240
supposed to protect people who
say, Hey, I rejected your

1706
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,750
business for whatever, whatever
my reasons are, you can't force

1707
01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:12,270
me to do it based upon a
conflict of my religious

1708
01:41:12,570 --> 01:41:16,050
feelings, which I think any
Supreme Court would say, No, you

1709
01:41:16,050 --> 01:41:19,440
can't do that. So this law is
unnecessary. But what it does is

1710
01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:23,220
actually gives a lot of people
who are very, very staunch

1711
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:27,150
Republicans full of right wing
rhetoric and Christianity,

1712
01:41:27,390 --> 01:41:30,180
they've totally shot themselves
in the foot with this because

1713
01:41:30,180 --> 01:41:32,850
the first thing care is going to
do you watch, hey, now we

1714
01:41:32,850 --> 01:41:36,030
believe differently. It can be a
man and a woman and a woman and

1715
01:41:36,030 --> 01:41:38,220
a woman and a woman and a woman
and a woman and a woman, a woman

1716
01:41:38,220 --> 01:41:40,590
with a little boy on the side,
maybe that's what they'll say.

1717
01:41:41,850 --> 01:41:46,260
Now, this is insane to for this
to be done, but it's really

1718
01:41:46,260 --> 01:41:50,340
being it's not getting the
scrutiny it deserves, because of

1719
01:41:50,670 --> 01:41:55,470
the very loud gay gay voice and
gay agenda on this. Whereas you

1720
01:41:55,470 --> 01:41:58,590
know, really, what do you care?
What do you care if someone

1721
01:41:58,590 --> 01:42:02,940
doesn't want to bake a cake for
you? Who cares? Now that you

1722
01:42:02,970 --> 01:42:07,110
won't won't get hired or fired?
I mean, yeah. And I think it's

1723
01:42:07,110 --> 01:42:10,410
something for the Supreme Court
more than anything, it's or, I

1724
01:42:10,410 --> 01:42:13,050
don't know, they just leave it
at the states if you want that

1725
01:42:13,050 --> 01:42:15,450
to be but you're really stupid
Mississippi be really going to

1726
01:42:15,450 --> 01:42:17,820
bring in all kinds of problems
with other religions, because

1727
01:42:17,820 --> 01:42:21,660
you're not the only one. CNN,
which is funny,

1728
01:42:21,750 --> 01:42:24,570
but it seems as though they were
writing these things just based

1729
01:42:24,570 --> 01:42:27,390
on fundamental Christian
fundamentalists as though

1730
01:42:27,390 --> 01:42:31,710
there's no Jewish fundamental,
yeah, or Hindu Muslim funding or

1731
01:42:31,710 --> 01:42:35,970
see how these crazy beliefs
Yeah, or seek, seek

1732
01:42:35,970 --> 01:42:37,800
fundamentalist all of this
stuff?

1733
01:42:38,700 --> 01:42:39,570
Oh, yes.

1734
01:42:40,170 --> 01:42:42,150
This was funny, Ashley
Benningfield, who's kind of

1735
01:42:42,450 --> 01:42:45,120
ditzy? Well, they're all ditzy,
although she's a lawyer, but she

1736
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,610
comes across as ditzy and cute.
And she's CNN, there was

1737
01:42:47,610 --> 01:42:50,490
one other piece of language and
I'm gonna have to paraphrase it

1738
01:42:50,490 --> 01:42:53,970
but it's odd. It's a law in
Mississippi protects from

1739
01:42:53,970 --> 01:42:56,190
discrimination claims from
anyone who believes that

1740
01:42:56,430 --> 01:42:59,490
marriage is between one man and
one woman. So the cake baker

1741
01:42:59,490 --> 01:43:02,280
doesn't want to bake a cake for
a same sex marriage, they get

1742
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,740
the protection from a
discrimination lawsuit. And then

1743
01:43:04,740 --> 01:43:07,770
there's this and that sexual
relations are reserved solely

1744
01:43:07,770 --> 01:43:12,720
for marriage. So, um, I wasn't
aware of that until I just

1745
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:16,140
happen to notice it today. Does
that mean that cake baker could

1746
01:43:16,140 --> 01:43:21,030
refuse a couple that just lives
together? To bake a cake for

1747
01:43:21,030 --> 01:43:24,870
someone who just lives together?
Absolutely. Absolutely. That's

1748
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:27,810
bigger headlines because that
affects

1749
01:43:28,140 --> 01:43:31,410
Ashley's word, Ashley's words,
she's not gonna get a cake.

1750
01:43:31,770 --> 01:43:33,030
Because she's a sloth

1751
01:43:33,060 --> 01:43:35,070
millions and millions of

1752
01:43:36,210 --> 01:43:39,330
dollars sort of beyond the whole
you can't have sex cake.

1753
01:43:39,870 --> 01:43:44,970
The Mississippi law is the other
laws look tiny, just because

1754
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,030
it's this tubing, of course of
the kind of the provisions

1755
01:43:48,030 --> 01:43:51,810
you're talking about. And also
the number of people and

1756
01:43:51,810 --> 01:43:54,720
institutions that are allowed to
discriminate under the

1757
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:58,200
Mississippi law. It's every
business in the state. It's

1758
01:43:58,230 --> 01:44:03,120
every church, it's every it's
the government itself. So the

1759
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:07,710
breadth of this law is really
extraordinary far greater than

1760
01:44:07,710 --> 01:44:10,500
the North Carolina law or even
the Indiana law that was

1761
01:44:10,500 --> 01:44:14,640
overturned so you know I think
you're right to point out what

1762
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,670
it what an extreme version of
the law is, but you know, this

1763
01:44:17,670 --> 01:44:19,140
is what the legislators want

1764
01:44:19,890 --> 01:44:26,280
Well, that's true but what a
what a mistake, but what just

1765
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:30,840
wanted Gross, gross, gross
mistake, final clip on this and

1766
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,390
here's someone who I thought was
speaking some sense although

1767
01:44:33,420 --> 01:44:36,000
take it with a grain of salt
that guy works for the Heritage

1768
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:41,010
Foundation. So he's probably
buying part of this law but he

1769
01:44:41,010 --> 01:44:43,080
was on with Don Lemon, which is
a double whammy because you've

1770
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:48,780
got a black guy who happens to
be gay. And you can so he his

1771
01:44:48,780 --> 01:44:51,420
agenda is kind of all that he
does get set straight a little

1772
01:44:51,420 --> 01:44:51,990
bit on this.

1773
01:44:52,440 --> 01:44:56,760
It sounds like the same argument
for Loving versus Virginia which

1774
01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:00,570
was decided years ago between
you know, people to different

1775
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:02,970
races. What's the difference
here?

1776
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:06,870
Well, I disagree. I think race
is entirely different. I was at

1777
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:08,910
the Civil Rights Division for
the Department of Justice for

1778
01:45:08,910 --> 01:45:12,390
seven years, I enforced our anti
discrimination laws. This is a

1779
01:45:12,390 --> 01:45:15,120
passion of mine. And this is
entirely different. This is

1780
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,910
entirely about religious
freedom. It is tailored very

1781
01:45:17,910 --> 01:45:20,490
specifically to the wedding
context. And it

1782
01:45:21,330 --> 01:45:24,390
was also used in Loving versus
Virginia as well that they said

1783
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:27,840
that it was Biden says it was
against two people of different

1784
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:28,620
races marry,

1785
01:45:29,190 --> 01:45:31,650
yes, and race is different. And
this has nothing to do with

1786
01:45:31,650 --> 01:45:34,110
race. And in fact, the word
sexual orientation appeared

1787
01:45:34,110 --> 01:45:37,500
nowhere in this bill. It allows
people to dissent in a very

1788
01:45:37,500 --> 01:45:40,590
small context, small businesses
in the wedding service context,

1789
01:45:40,620 --> 01:45:43,110
religious institutions,
religious educational

1790
01:45:43,110 --> 01:45:46,350
facilities, adoption facilities,
it's very focused, very

1791
01:45:46,350 --> 01:45:49,350
tailored, very balanced, there
should be room for people of

1792
01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:52,680
faith, to express their beliefs
and not be punished by the

1793
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:53,070
government.

1794
01:45:53,130 --> 01:45:55,560
Under the law, religious
organisations will be able to

1795
01:45:55,560 --> 01:46:00,840
deny LGBT people marriage,
adoption, and foster care. So

1796
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:04,260
this is important because he is
reading this as if he's reading

1797
01:46:04,260 --> 01:46:07,200
the law. And that's how he's
stating it. But he doesn't even

1798
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:09,600
know what it really says it's
minor. But it's important

1799
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,370
because this is how this works.
And this is why we get

1800
01:46:11,370 --> 01:46:13,620
distracted from what's really
going on at people

1801
01:46:13,650 --> 01:46:19,140
marriage, adoption, and foster
care services, fire or refuse to

1802
01:46:19,140 --> 01:46:23,880
employ them and declined to rent
or sell them property. It sounds

1803
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:26,880
like the same thing they did
with black folks. How is this

1804
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,760
not discrimination? Well, first,
that's

1805
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:33,960
not what the bill says. The bill
doesn't allow sexual orientation

1806
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:34,200
doesn't

1807
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:36,420
mention that. But that's what it
does not allow it may not

1808
01:46:36,420 --> 01:46:38,610
specifically say that, but it
would allow

1809
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,790
but the words matter. The words
matter. That's what the law

1810
01:46:41,790 --> 01:46:44,880
means. It's based on the words
and the words say it's focused

1811
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,520
on the issue of marriage. But I
think you're being disingenuous

1812
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:47,730
here

1813
01:46:47,730 --> 01:46:52,530
because this law, listen to me,
under the law, religious

1814
01:46:52,530 --> 01:46:57,540
organisations will be able to
deny LGBT people marriage, is

1815
01:46:57,540 --> 01:46:58,080
that wrong?

1816
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:02,370
No, okay. The clerk's are
actually required to provide

1817
01:47:02,370 --> 01:47:04,410
marriage licences if we're
talking about marriage that's

1818
01:47:04,410 --> 01:47:05,250
already handled.

1819
01:47:05,340 --> 01:47:08,310
Yeah. So that's what I'm hearing
everywhere is, oh, I'm gonna be

1820
01:47:08,310 --> 01:47:11,520
able to get married. No, you'll
be able to get married. But

1821
01:47:11,970 --> 01:47:15,450
this, the makers of this law,
the writers, the pastors of this

1822
01:47:15,450 --> 01:47:19,620
law, are arrogant. And then and
it really is extremely bigoted

1823
01:47:19,620 --> 01:47:21,660
because you're saying our
religious freedom we're

1824
01:47:21,660 --> 01:47:26,010
codifying that something very
specific about marriage. Very,

1825
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:30,180
very, very specific. And, you
know, you don't have the right

1826
01:47:30,180 --> 01:47:31,860
to do that. It's, it's arrogant.
It's

1827
01:47:31,860 --> 01:47:34,860
very subtle mixing of church and
state here too, which is, which

1828
01:47:34,860 --> 01:47:36,930
is another reason this thing to
get thrown out. Yeah, for

1829
01:47:36,930 --> 01:47:41,010
example, if you're a cake maker,
I mean, to be in business in one

1830
01:47:41,010 --> 01:47:44,040
of these communities, you have
to get a business licence.

1831
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:48,240
Right? I don't know any place
that you can go to just open up

1832
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:50,550
a business without getting a
business licence. You gotta get

1833
01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:53,160
a business licence, you gotta
file fictitious business names

1834
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:56,580
or stuff that you have to do. I
mean, I suppose that some Polk

1835
01:47:56,580 --> 01:47:58,620
County just you know, you can
just have people come into your

1836
01:47:58,620 --> 01:48:01,020
house and you can make him a
cake and they give me five bucks

1837
01:48:01,020 --> 01:48:04,080
cash. But generally speaking,
when you do a business licence

1838
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:07,710
you get you have to agree to
certain terms that and Ben

1839
01:48:07,710 --> 01:48:11,700
policies that are kind of part
of the community and is that

1840
01:48:11,700 --> 01:48:13,770
you're supposed to serve people
I mean, if you're gonna start a

1841
01:48:13,770 --> 01:48:16,830
business that's going to open up
a restaurant, you can't make it

1842
01:48:16,830 --> 01:48:18,780
somebody a private club. That's
a different kind of business.

1843
01:48:18,780 --> 01:48:21,600
You can do that. But then
there's a rigmarole you gotta go

1844
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:24,960
through. This is a crazy I think
you're right, this is just

1845
01:48:25,230 --> 01:48:29,220
arrogant. Arrogant. This is the
most arrogant stupid thing I've

1846
01:48:29,220 --> 01:48:30,540
seen for a very long time

1847
01:48:30,570 --> 01:48:34,020
and just wait until care comes
that is the yeah count on

1848
01:48:34,020 --> 01:48:36,660
America American Islamic
Relations. You wait until they

1849
01:48:36,660 --> 01:48:39,630
come brotherhood. They haven't
they haven't weighed in yet, but

1850
01:48:39,630 --> 01:48:43,560
they will. They will. Do you
think this is a great idea?

1851
01:48:43,650 --> 01:48:46,350
Well, they probably want their
own law. Yeah, of

1852
01:48:46,350 --> 01:48:47,700
course they do. Yeah.

1853
01:48:48,180 --> 01:48:48,570
Now that

1854
01:48:49,500 --> 01:48:54,510
everybody's got some issue we'll
go move to Mississippi. I'm

1855
01:48:54,510 --> 01:48:57,690
telling you can be can be I've
ever been in Dearborn, head to

1856
01:48:57,690 --> 01:49:02,820
Mississippi. At a restaurant you
have to serve anybody but fellow

1857
01:49:02,820 --> 01:49:03,750
fellow travellers if

1858
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:06,720
that was really my contribution
is you know, stop with the gay

1859
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:09,210
stuff already. Look at what's
really going on. Look at how

1860
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:12,960
arrogant and dangerous this is
from a religious perspective.

1861
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:18,090
Look at that view. I am the
first to defend church and Jesus

1862
01:49:18,090 --> 01:49:21,720
and God anybody wants to you
know believe in whatever they

1863
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:25,200
want to believe in. But it's not
the only religion and that's

1864
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:28,860
what this screens the screams
that's Oh, this is the this is

1865
01:49:28,890 --> 01:49:33,210
this is what it is. No, no, no,
no. No, no, no, it shouldn't. It

1866
01:49:33,210 --> 01:49:35,700
doesn't belong in a law
anywhere, anywhere. That's so

1867
01:49:35,700 --> 01:49:40,920
obvious. Mississippi, what are
you doing? And gay and gay

1868
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:45,000
patrol, stop it. Or please use
your platform to bring up this

1869
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:48,450
other issue. That would be
smart. Hey,

1870
01:49:48,809 --> 01:49:49,919
that's not gonna happen.

1871
01:49:51,090 --> 01:49:53,880
You know, the gays listened to
us to John.

1872
01:49:57,090 --> 01:50:03,750
He had a few examples. Have you
been there? Okay. Yeah. Let's

1873
01:50:03,750 --> 01:50:05,100
talk about the meetup. Yeah,

1874
01:50:05,370 --> 01:50:08,880
New York. Sorry, New York City,

1875
01:50:09,119 --> 01:50:10,889
New York City. So we go to New
York City, we're gonna have a

1876
01:50:10,889 --> 01:50:13,889
big meetup and I had to, here's
what, I don't want to get into

1877
01:50:13,889 --> 01:50:18,449
the thing about MailChimp, but
so we had a meetup in New York

1878
01:50:18,449 --> 01:50:21,359
City. I'm kind of glad and so I
couldn't send a direct message

1879
01:50:21,359 --> 01:50:24,119
to New Yorkers. It had to go out
to everybody I got it. So

1880
01:50:24,209 --> 01:50:27,899
because I couldn't get this the
selection to work the selector.

1881
01:50:28,859 --> 01:50:33,329
So okay, I said, I'm glad I did.
Because it stuck, made the

1882
01:50:33,329 --> 01:50:39,359
dinner start off with a huge
positive vibe. Oh, because I we

1883
01:50:39,359 --> 01:50:45,089
arrived at sparks a group of us
and a creator says, You Are you

1884
01:50:45,089 --> 01:50:49,109
John Dvorak, you gentlemen. And
he so he hands me this note? And

1885
01:50:49,109 --> 01:50:53,639
he says Happy Birthday, John.
Duke and Duchess of Japan.

1886
01:50:53,669 --> 01:50:54,929
Oh, wow.

1887
01:50:57,300 --> 01:51:01,680
So there's sparks guys think I'm
somehow involved with the Duke

1888
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:07,950
and Duchess of Japan. A very
expensive bottle of champagne at

1889
01:51:07,950 --> 01:51:08,580
the table. Oh,

1890
01:51:08,580 --> 01:51:12,330
fantastic. They like everyone
was sucking you off all night

1891
01:51:12,330 --> 01:51:12,870
long.

1892
01:51:13,230 --> 01:51:15,990
We pretty much had one waiter
dedicated to our table.

1893
01:51:16,020 --> 01:51:17,400
Oh my god, the Duke

1894
01:51:18,990 --> 01:51:21,690
the champagne label. I've never
seen the champagne before as

1895
01:51:21,690 --> 01:51:25,590
some sort of a of a Pinot Blanc
de Pino. It was absolutely

1896
01:51:25,590 --> 01:51:29,670
fantastic. And it didn't have it
wasn't on the wine list. I don't

1897
01:51:29,670 --> 01:51:32,910
know what, oh, goodness,
especial champagne. I don't know

1898
01:51:32,910 --> 01:51:34,620
what they paid for it. I
couldn't find out.

1899
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,350
This needs to happen. I mean,
whenever I whenever I go to

1900
01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:39,030
Popeyes, I want that to happen
to me to

1901
01:51:39,300 --> 01:51:43,050
thank him profusely. Yeah, so we
had this time. So we're going to

1902
01:51:43,050 --> 01:51:46,020
be done at eight to go to the
bar and the bend of sparks bars

1903
01:51:46,020 --> 01:51:50,220
is a good sized bar. We had
probably about 40 people show

1904
01:51:50,220 --> 01:51:54,330
up. I wonder what they thought
you were die wondering too,

1905
01:51:54,330 --> 01:51:56,550
because at the end, they were
just like bottling them and

1906
01:51:59,820 --> 01:52:02,190
say hello to the new conductions
of Tokyo. Hi. Hi.

1907
01:52:02,940 --> 01:52:06,600
I thought that the we're gonna
get kicked out because we build

1908
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:10,620
the borrower, the capacity for
4050 people you said, the above

1909
01:52:10,620 --> 01:52:12,420
40 friendless. tastic. Wow,

1910
01:52:12,420 --> 01:52:13,470
what a great meetup.

1911
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:15,930
So yeah, it was a great meetup.
But it was in a meeting. You

1912
01:52:15,930 --> 01:52:18,300
know, my feeling was that it was
actually it turned into pretty

1913
01:52:18,300 --> 01:52:21,840
much of a New York style
cocktail party. Yes, I could see

1914
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,930
that. And so it which was great,
because everyone's chatting with

1915
01:52:24,930 --> 01:52:27,090
each other. A lot of people were
shy and they wouldn't mix which

1916
01:52:27,090 --> 01:52:30,990
was kind of a shame. One person
in particular, which is a lot of

1917
01:52:30,990 --> 01:52:34,260
people would like to have talked
to people apparently have bought

1918
01:52:34,260 --> 01:52:38,130
tables around our table and they
were you know, ogling us. All

1919
01:52:38,130 --> 01:52:43,920
but I never noticed. He's He's
friends with the restaurant is

1920
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,740
the point. And so they're happy
to see us and so they weren't

1921
01:52:46,740 --> 01:52:48,870
gonna throw us out of the bar
because everyone was buying and

1922
01:52:48,900 --> 01:52:51,540
drinking and having a great
time. At what

1923
01:52:51,540 --> 01:52:55,020
point did y'all put Your Eyes
Wide Shut masks on and they dim

1924
01:52:55,020 --> 01:52:58,080
the lights? When did this
happen? I can just see it

1925
01:52:58,530 --> 01:53:03,720
and shut it. Took your clothes
off. So So I want to thank a few

1926
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,840
people who contributed at the
time I also want to mention Rob

1927
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:11,190
Adams was there. Oh sir. Atomic
Roddick's and Nick the rat was

1928
01:53:11,190 --> 01:53:11,640
there.

1929
01:53:11,670 --> 01:53:14,370
I didn't know I saw no
photographic evidence of Nick

1930
01:53:14,370 --> 01:53:15,240
the rat being there.

1931
01:53:15,420 --> 01:53:18,510
He was there. And everybody
wanted to meet Nick the rat.

1932
01:53:18,540 --> 01:53:19,740
Nick thought you were drunk.

1933
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:24,390
I don't know about that. But
after my third cognac, it was

1934
01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:29,730
getting there. And the next rat
was there at a friend's scene

1935
01:53:29,730 --> 01:53:33,660
and Oh, nice. Nice where

1936
01:53:33,660 --> 01:53:35,610
there was a lot of our regulars
there.

1937
01:53:35,790 --> 01:53:36,840
What are you learning?

1938
01:53:37,440 --> 01:53:41,400
Now one of them dropped off a
ball of high and very nice

1939
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:44,970
bourbon. Oh, nice. The problem
is there was no card in there

1940
01:53:44,970 --> 01:53:47,610
and I go thanks. Thanks. And of
course I couldn't remember

1941
01:53:47,610 --> 01:53:50,700
anything because I was hammered.
Hammered but that's not the

1942
01:53:50,700 --> 01:53:53,910
reason is because I just can't
remember anything. And so I

1943
01:53:53,910 --> 01:53:56,190
don't know if it was Tanya who
dropped off the bottle or for

1944
01:53:56,190 --> 01:54:00,630
his rod Adams it who knows? I
don't know if someone's gonna

1945
01:54:00,630 --> 01:54:03,450
have to send me a note so I can
thank him for the bottle of

1946
01:54:03,690 --> 01:54:07,170
bourbon. Meanwhile, there's a
few people that need to be

1947
01:54:07,710 --> 01:54:09,540
there we need to play our jingle
and we'll go straight into

1948
01:54:09,540 --> 01:54:11,280
everything or how do we do this
we want to do

1949
01:54:11,460 --> 01:54:13,590
well I was just gonna not do
that. We're just gonna do this

1950
01:54:13,590 --> 01:54:16,950
separate then we can play the
donation or these are higher.

1951
01:54:17,010 --> 01:54:21,750
Perfect, perfect. For example, a
Henry Biglan and yin yang you

1952
01:54:21,750 --> 01:54:25,830
were there Henry? are one of our
knights. Yeah, sir. Bigland

1953
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:29,490
333 33. So he'll be executive
producer for this show.

1954
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:30,420
Nice.

1955
01:54:31,650 --> 01:54:34,320
We have a lesser donation. It
was not that much lesser but

1956
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:37,740
it's lesser from JD who does
have infamous story and he has a

1957
01:54:37,740 --> 01:54:41,100
nice little card he dropped off.
It was fun to get the cards by

1958
01:54:41,100 --> 01:54:45,540
the way. Oh, JD I know JD is you
know J. Here are some birthday

1959
01:54:45,540 --> 01:54:48,300
kittens for your enjoyment along
with a long overdue donation

1960
01:54:48,300 --> 01:54:51,840
partner had lack of longhand, as
I haven't used it since 2005.

1961
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:55,470
The outstanding product known as
T the best podcast in universe

1962
01:54:55,470 --> 01:54:59,670
really helps keep me sane and
the hard work you and Adam do as

1963
01:54:59,670 --> 01:55:02,250
much ReShade Happy Birthday blah
blah blah hope New York Street

1964
01:55:02,250 --> 01:55:05,610
View well we need to find in New
York. I got a nice card from

1965
01:55:07,980 --> 01:55:12,150
Bill from Glen rock. And he I
believe

1966
01:55:12,210 --> 01:55:15,390
added a bunch of Glen rock New
Jersey I'm sure

1967
01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:20,580
yeah 100 bucks from him. And now
the car these are all mostly

1968
01:55:20,580 --> 01:55:21,900
cards, which is cool

1969
01:55:21,930 --> 01:55:24,750
any more gifts besides the
libations?

1970
01:55:25,410 --> 01:55:29,580
Yeah, I got a Starkweather I
believe that gave us this

1971
01:55:29,610 --> 01:55:34,110
evidence pack. Oh, it was like
an evidence pouch from some some

1972
01:55:34,110 --> 01:55:36,120
police department filled with
some of his photos there

1973
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:37,230
was still with blood on it.

1974
01:55:37,620 --> 01:55:38,910
It's actually kind of cool.

1975
01:55:40,380 --> 01:55:41,730
You can use it as a clutch.

1976
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:47,040
Yes, actually, that'd be good.
He sent a card in and with the

1977
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:53,430
note was noted says we not as
cute as a puppy but close to 90

1978
01:55:53,430 --> 01:56:02,970
where he's he's bid for Simon
read New York. 12345. Thank you

1979
01:56:02,970 --> 01:56:07,680
for that. As I dig down through
these notes and things this

1980
01:56:09,180 --> 01:56:09,930
Mappy

1981
01:56:11,490 --> 01:56:21,060
midlife crisis karma, please.
And he has a $100. So we'll give

1982
01:56:21,060 --> 01:56:24,900
him some karma at the end of the
lung donation segment. Now this

1983
01:56:24,900 --> 01:56:30,180
one, this is Ryan Merritt. And
who puts sanity in his for he's

1984
01:56:30,750 --> 01:56:35,400
sir, to Oh, sir. Something a
lot, sir. solves a lot, sir.

1985
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:41,310
solves a lot, sir. I don't know.
I can't remember. But Ryan Mara

1986
01:56:41,310 --> 01:56:48,300
be executive producer, because
he said give us $567.89 Wow,

1987
01:56:48,990 --> 01:56:53,340
that was a big deal. And I
really chatted with everybody

1988
01:56:53,340 --> 01:56:57,420
that was there was one of the
one transgender producer came

1989
01:56:57,420 --> 01:57:02,070
over and said she said at the
end,

1990
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:04,860
thank thank you for using her
proper pronoun.

1991
01:57:06,060 --> 01:57:15,540
She, she said that the show has
saved her. Oh. And we had a

1992
01:57:15,540 --> 01:57:18,210
number of people that came up
with this these, like how

1993
01:57:18,300 --> 01:57:21,570
important this show it actually
is to them. I'm

1994
01:57:21,570 --> 01:57:24,000
glad you witnessed this. Because
this is this is what I was

1995
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,520
telling you. When I said you
really need to get on the road,

1996
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:29,490
do some meetups, because it's so
beautiful to hear people saying

1997
01:57:29,490 --> 01:57:33,090
you know, I really it's odd, of
course, when someone says the

1998
01:57:33,090 --> 01:57:37,380
show saved me. But they mean it
because they got some bit of

1999
01:57:37,380 --> 01:57:40,020
there. It's the involuntary
social network disorder. It's

2000
01:57:40,020 --> 01:57:42,780
the propaganda people are very
happy when someone else says,

2001
01:57:42,780 --> 01:57:45,540
oh, maybe if you just look at it
this way, then you'll feel

2002
01:57:45,540 --> 01:57:48,360
better about yourself because
it's nagging you. Yeah. But what

2003
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:51,480
was what was her? Was her
specific? What did we save her

2004
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:51,960
from?

2005
01:57:52,410 --> 01:57:55,650
I never really got that out of
her. She just wanted to say

2006
01:57:55,650 --> 01:58:01,650
thanks. And she was very, very
serious about this. And she was

2007
01:58:01,650 --> 01:58:04,740
one of the people that was
sitting in one of the tables and

2008
01:58:04,740 --> 01:58:08,280
somebody commented that ah, you
know, I didn't think she was

2009
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:11,190
part of the group. She wasn't
mixing. Because these are like

2010
01:58:11,190 --> 01:58:14,040
mixers a little bit and you kind
of have to go I think a lot of

2011
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:18,090
people were uncomfortable. Not
many, but there are a lot of

2012
01:58:18,090 --> 01:58:20,670
people it's like, Who are these
strangers? And why am I here?

2013
01:58:21,690 --> 01:58:24,480
Kind of thing, even though this
most of the people came away

2014
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,030
from this because there were
enough people and it was lively,

2015
01:58:27,210 --> 01:58:30,720
very lively gathering. They got
to meet people they wanted to

2016
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:34,260
meet or they've heard about and
they I think again the no agenda

2017
01:58:34,530 --> 01:58:37,890
phenomenon of making no agenda
friends. Yes, it

2018
01:58:37,890 --> 01:58:40,200
had been these people will meet
each other again, that's very

2019
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:42,510
typical. It's very typical. It's
not and

2020
01:58:42,540 --> 01:58:45,870
you know, I got I got scolded
actually a few times for not

2021
01:58:45,870 --> 01:58:54,630
doing New York before and New
York, so you should do and yeah,

2022
01:58:54,630 --> 01:58:56,940
and I know you already know
Yeah, York go forever. In eight

2023
01:58:56,940 --> 01:58:58,500
years. You just come to New
York.

2024
01:58:58,559 --> 01:59:00,989
Oh man, but Nick the rat was not
nice to you.

2025
01:59:01,380 --> 01:59:06,210
No, no, Nick them. That's Nick's
voice. But that's Nick is like,

2026
01:59:06,660 --> 01:59:08,970
Nick is hammered. And I know
what he was doing.

2027
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:10,050
Nick is stone.

2028
01:59:10,650 --> 01:59:13,800
Dear John and Adam. My husband
Jerry introduced me to your

2029
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:15,510
podcast in 2014 Dude,

2030
01:59:15,540 --> 01:59:21,030
helicopter literally just buzzed
my window I'm not kidding was

2031
01:59:21,570 --> 01:59:26,010
probably about 30 feet away from
the building a Robinson 44.

2032
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:28,260
Did he give you a peace sign?

2033
01:59:29,220 --> 01:59:31,950
I was looking for the red dot
honestly.

2034
01:59:34,860 --> 01:59:41,100
Red easy from yet choppers hard.
Not really. Yeah, your podcast

2035
01:59:41,100 --> 01:59:44,220
in 2014. During the mission
Malaysian Airline fiasco and

2036
01:59:44,220 --> 01:59:47,550
have been listening religious
religiously since living in New

2037
01:59:47,550 --> 01:59:52,860
York City can be a chaotic and
messy. But your display

2038
01:59:52,860 --> 01:59:57,930
construction of the news has has
allowed for a much needed

2039
01:59:57,930 --> 02:00:02,790
respite during our launch Subway
rides she goes on. This is

2040
02:00:03,090 --> 02:00:06,720
Monica and Jerry out of some
party. I'm

2041
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:09,360
thinking about this saved thing.
You know, of course there's an

2042
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:13,320
analogy there with a church
which we're clearly not. But is

2043
02:00:13,410 --> 02:00:16,770
what does the church use as
their hook to get new people and

2044
02:00:17,100 --> 02:00:21,030
they say you'll be saved. Or you
know, they always have baby

2045
02:00:21,030 --> 02:00:24,900
Jesus which is pretty cool. They
got that they got a great great

2046
02:00:24,900 --> 02:00:26,430
dude fronting the whole
business.

2047
02:00:27,180 --> 02:00:33,690
Well, I'm reminded of I'm
reminded of we had a makeup

2048
02:00:33,690 --> 02:00:37,770
person at Tech TV a guy who was
if you ever said anything bad

2049
02:00:37,770 --> 02:00:41,820
about Oprah Winfrey just go off
on because according to him,

2050
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:47,310
Oprah has saved him now only
thing like and he was a big

2051
02:00:47,310 --> 02:00:49,830
desire was a wreck until OPRAH
You know straight Yeah,

2052
02:00:49,830 --> 02:00:52,260
that's like Richard Simmons had
believers like that.

2053
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:56,790
Now, I think what it is, is that
some people are looking for a

2054
02:00:56,790 --> 02:00:59,400
certain message that is
something that they actually

2055
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:02,670
their subconscious needs, or
they're they're have cognitive

2056
02:01:02,670 --> 02:01:05,160
dissonance or they have
something going on with them.

2057
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:09,660
That needs to be jarred loose,
jarred loose or righted just as

2058
02:01:09,660 --> 02:01:13,260
right the ship doesn't take that
much sometimes just boom. Now

2059
02:01:13,260 --> 02:01:14,580
there's a listen to the show.
They

2060
02:01:14,580 --> 02:01:17,760
are like a gyroscopic
readjustment

2061
02:01:18,660 --> 02:01:23,100
and I think that's that's what a
lot of the shows do if they're

2062
02:01:23,100 --> 02:01:25,500
not taking they're not taking
themselves too seriously and

2063
02:01:25,500 --> 02:01:28,230
they're actually trying to help
people. And so that could be an

2064
02:01:28,230 --> 02:01:35,640
element card here from Grace one
David and Jen can't read this of

2065
02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:38,880
course, I'll be sending an email
to remind you about sir Mad

2066
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:43,020
Hatter will be celebrating his
42nd birthday on April 8. You

2067
02:01:43,020 --> 02:01:47,280
got to put them on the list.
He's not on there. Sorry about

2068
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:50,160
my cursor, which is actually
quite good. It's been years

2069
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:54,330
since I've tried it and this is
she got the curve down but she

2070
02:01:54,330 --> 02:01:55,560
doesn't have her Mad

2071
02:01:55,560 --> 02:02:00,690
Hatter when? Eighth April 8. And
how old

2072
02:02:01,830 --> 02:02:08,700
Bubba 42nd Okay. This is like
dawn or something I can't read

2073
02:02:08,700 --> 02:02:13,980
her I can't read your thing. And
if you get on whatever cards a

2074
02:02:13,980 --> 02:02:19,440
bunch of cards Amy Luka Jamie
rose on Jamie's look at these

2075
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:22,110
cards. No, no,

2076
02:02:22,650 --> 02:02:25,680
it's not easy as a beer maker of
some sort. I know what this and

2077
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:26,730
this is not easy. I know. I

2078
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:29,610
know. It's not easy you did it.
You've done it a number of

2079
02:02:29,610 --> 02:02:34,200
times. And I hear we got another
was a go and there's another

2080
02:02:34,200 --> 02:02:41,880
executive producer Craig Luke on
333 33. And he quick note and

2081
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:45,120
donation for your continued work
to keep us all informed on what

2082
02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:47,700
is getting going on wrong with
the world. John, thanks for

2083
02:02:47,700 --> 02:02:51,870
inviting all the listeners to
sparks. I know my wife named

2084
02:02:51,870 --> 02:02:57,300
Jamie was maybe named Janie that
was the note that could be named

2085
02:02:57,300 --> 02:03:02,220
Janie. Jamie I was thrilled to
make the trip into the city.

2086
02:03:02,580 --> 02:03:02,910
Keep

2087
02:03:04,170 --> 02:03:05,220
going to Big Smoke.

2088
02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:10,290
I'm sorry. I always get a kid
killed me a trip to New York is

2089
02:03:10,830 --> 02:03:14,910
it's a lot of thing I guess. I
guess it could be a thrill this

2090
02:03:14,910 --> 02:03:17,130
bet yeah, this is Manhattan.
That was Jamie that was the know

2091
02:03:17,130 --> 02:03:19,530
from Jamie thank you for your
courage Baron Mad Hatter night

2092
02:03:19,530 --> 02:03:22,740
of the fifth column. That's for
that. Okay. Got that

2093
02:03:22,740 --> 02:03:23,490
straightened out.

2094
02:03:24,660 --> 02:03:26,670
Onward. In Summary In summary

2095
02:03:28,620 --> 02:03:33,150
couple more, a couple more.
More. Yeah. Dear Mr. Devore I

2096
02:03:33,150 --> 02:03:36,630
can Mr. Curry thank you for your
tireless efforts in closes

2097
02:03:36,630 --> 02:03:43,530
$333.01 thing for an executive
producer credit no sound effects

2098
02:03:43,530 --> 02:03:48,630
are jingles are necessary
alright. For all Odle staying

2099
02:03:49,050 --> 02:03:57,930
for four says no jingles for
four and what is this? Okay we

2100
02:03:57,930 --> 02:03:58,710
have I like

2101
02:03:58,710 --> 02:03:59,760
the name for

2102
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:06,300
we have a job karma from David
like Conte needed job karma bad

2103
02:04:06,300 --> 02:04:08,400
make sure to put that here at
the end of this whole thing or

2104
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:11,280
dead right the end of this
segment. David Alicante in

2105
02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:17,430
Eatontown, New Jersey. Gave us a
nice $50 And that was cool. Now

2106
02:04:17,430 --> 02:04:20,400
I have my I think my last card

2107
02:04:21,810 --> 02:04:22,710
for

2108
02:04:24,270 --> 02:04:27,540
no agenda show had an envelope
inside of an envelope and inside

2109
02:04:27,540 --> 02:04:33,210
the envelope is a check for
$333.33 from Daniel J. Franco,

2110
02:04:33,570 --> 02:04:39,000
in the Bronx. Ice came down from
the Bronx. And he says and he

2111
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:46,230
sent a nice cat card. The cat
picture. Dear John happy 26th

2112
02:04:46,230 --> 02:04:50,040
birthday. Got that right. You
woke up one morning and is right

2113
02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:53,160
there in your face. Enjoy your
day. Thank you for the he's got

2114
02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:56,430
this in kind of some it's like
French longhand that you'd have.

2115
02:04:56,430 --> 02:04:59,190
You know what I mean? The
invitation to attend the no

2116
02:04:59,190 --> 02:05:02,430
agenda meetup. Have and for
having it in New York City as

2117
02:05:02,430 --> 02:05:07,770
well as the appropriate
probabilities of being thrown

2118
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:14,550
out. As a sales pitch thrown out
is the possibility being thrown

2119
02:05:14,550 --> 02:05:18,480
out of an upscale New York City
restaurant. That was a big draw.

2120
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:22,680
Although they didn't throw us
out, they were very happy that

2121
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:26,070
we were there on Tuesday night,
we filled up the bar and, and

2122
02:05:26,070 --> 02:05:29,190
helped to keep the restaurant
going. And these are a few of

2123
02:05:29,190 --> 02:05:32,700
the people I want to thank all
of them as they came up, and we

2124
02:05:32,700 --> 02:05:34,890
chatted about all kinds of
things. And I want to thank

2125
02:05:34,890 --> 02:05:39,570
everyone who appeared at this
event and one of the fellows

2126
02:05:39,570 --> 02:05:42,420
bought me a bunch of cognac and
that was happy about that. I'm

2127
02:05:42,420 --> 02:05:44,040
sure you're worried I didn't
fall over.

2128
02:05:44,100 --> 02:05:47,700
No, at least not when everyone
was still there. We get back,

2129
02:05:47,700 --> 02:05:52,410
man, I gotta go back. I'm gonna
go back and say, Excuse me. I'm

2130
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:56,070
good friends with Mr. John C.
Dvorak, a, you know, good

2131
02:05:56,070 --> 02:05:59,760
friends with the Duke and
Duchess of Tokyo. I'd like some

2132
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:00,090
of the

2133
02:06:00,269 --> 02:06:03,179
Bucha group, maybe get the table
especially right in front of the

2134
02:06:03,179 --> 02:06:03,479
state.

2135
02:06:04,860 --> 02:06:09,600
Man, oh, I've been to wind this
up. I've, I've I've hacked my

2136
02:06:09,600 --> 02:06:16,200
Amazon Echo. So I've renamed her
book of knowledge. Cool. Yeah.

2137
02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:19,680
So we can say, book of
knowledge. How old is John C.

2138
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:20,400
Dvorak.

2139
02:06:21,510 --> 02:06:24,300
John C. Dvorak. Jack is 64 years
old.

2140
02:06:24,870 --> 02:06:28,320
I'm gonna show my school but
donate to no agenda. Imagine all

2141
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:30,900
the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.

2142
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:40,050
It's handy have done that.
Because if we ever need to

2143
02:06:40,050 --> 02:06:43,200
consult the book of knowledge,
now it's much easier. So for

2144
02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:46,470
instance, if I say book of
knowledge, spell Mississippi.

2145
02:06:47,490 --> 02:06:58,080
Mississippi is spelled M
ISSISSIPPI. That's kind of cool.

2146
02:06:58,080 --> 02:07:02,430
Right. That's very cool. Thank
you. Yeah, quite.

2147
02:07:03,180 --> 02:07:06,330
Well, now. I think you've just
led the way. Yeah, everyone's

2148
02:07:06,330 --> 02:07:09,480
gonna do with it. You can use it
for except the Wikipedia, but

2149
02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:12,750
we can use it for all kinds of
things. Yeah. You can say for

2150
02:07:12,750 --> 02:07:17,070
instance, book of knowledge. How
tall is Adam curry?

2151
02:07:18,390 --> 02:07:22,680
Adam PERIES height is six feet
and five inches. 196

2152
02:07:22,680 --> 02:07:23,550
centimetres.

2153
02:07:24,510 --> 02:07:28,920
Thor. There you go. Pretty cool.
So if we need it, we can use it.

2154
02:07:29,730 --> 02:07:32,010
So make sure we get a couple of
job cards in there. And some

2155
02:07:32,010 --> 02:07:33,990
just general comments for
everybody who showed up for that

2156
02:07:33,990 --> 02:07:36,690
event. And we'll do some more of
these. Got it. I've got one of

2157
02:07:36,690 --> 02:07:40,380
the producers says that he would
like to coordinate the New York

2158
02:07:40,380 --> 02:07:44,280
scene. Like we have in Detroit.
We have a couple of guys seen.

2159
02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:47,220
Yeah. So we can do these events
and maybe be a little more

2160
02:07:47,220 --> 02:07:50,880
organised than me just sending
out random notes. Right. But

2161
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:53,070
which is fine. It worked out I
think we got a lot of people and

2162
02:07:53,070 --> 02:07:53,640
we should have an

2163
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:55,770
app or something that when
people come to meetups and they

2164
02:07:55,770 --> 02:07:59,550
just type in their their email
address and their info so we

2165
02:07:59,550 --> 02:08:05,760
build a database that we can
mark it up sorry, we're not that

2166
02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:06,510
slick. Are we?

2167
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:11,280
If we have it was yeah, it was
definitely worth doing. Good.

2168
02:08:11,820 --> 02:08:19,200
Five T for our from Columbus,
Indiana. $100.01. And he or she

2169
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:23,550
I don't know, says I'm $4 donor.
Although regularly contribute I

2170
02:08:23,550 --> 02:08:26,070
feel as though the value I've
received greatly outweighs the

2171
02:08:26,070 --> 02:08:28,620
value of return. This is
especially apparent when you

2172
02:08:28,620 --> 02:08:31,170
deliver deconstruction like you
did last Sunday.

2173
02:08:32,220 --> 02:08:36,750
And that's probably the Rachel
Maddow Donald Trump. Hillary

2174
02:08:36,750 --> 02:08:37,350
Clinton

2175
02:08:39,030 --> 02:08:42,360
declared on Twitter you did one
that was just dynamite so that's

2176
02:08:42,360 --> 02:08:45,240
probably what she's done. I
think so teach he or she the

2177
02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:49,800
heat there's gotta be a he was a
five T for our Robert Diggle in

2178
02:08:49,800 --> 02:08:55,890
Brooklyn, New York. $100 Sure,
Herb lamb and Sugar Hill,

2179
02:08:55,890 --> 02:08:59,970
Georgia at 140. That's a
birthday call. Charles bro

2180
02:08:59,970 --> 02:09:07,710
Shetty in Inchon Korea at 140
John Davis, Brentwood, Tennessee

2181
02:09:07,710 --> 02:09:11,160
$1 $80.08 Jeffrey wolf in
Edmond, Oklahoma.

2182
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:12,900
It's the boob donation.

2183
02:09:14,430 --> 02:09:16,320
Your a oh eight.

2184
02:09:16,470 --> 02:09:21,210
Oh yeah, eight always the boom,
boom. Jeffrey Wolf and Edmond

2185
02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:27,570
Edmond, Oklahoma. 7777 was known
to love the show, but we'd like

2186
02:09:27,570 --> 02:09:34,680
to call out chap, the banker as
a douchebag. He listens but he

2187
02:09:34,680 --> 02:09:42,780
never donates banker, banker or
when of Rowley

2188
02:09:42,810 --> 02:09:46,980
troll UK, which means rolling,
Froelich means happy or gay,

2189
02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:50,640
but he's happy and gay. He's
gay.

2190
02:09:50,670 --> 02:09:51,510
I don't think he's gay.

2191
02:09:51,870 --> 02:09:59,040
He's aware he's probably not
gay. 7409 Amsterdam. Adam Peters

2192
02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:07,140
is New York City. 5959 Sir Ralph
Nelson Vikon Ralph Ellison,

2193
02:10:07,410 --> 02:10:07,980
Aachen

2194
02:10:08,010 --> 02:10:11,970
Deutsch slides land what does he
say here at the 585? Regards to

2195
02:10:11,970 --> 02:10:16,230
show a 12. I'm the VI count of
neutral Morse net and Germany,

2196
02:10:16,230 --> 02:10:18,570
but I find that the natural
border between Germany and

2197
02:10:18,570 --> 02:10:23,340
Austria is north of Bavaria. So
why didn't we do this already?

2198
02:10:24,030 --> 02:10:28,980
They wanted to change. No. Oh,
okay. Oh, I see. So the Barony

2199
02:10:28,980 --> 02:10:31,410
of Bavaria and Austria can be
assigned to any other word, the

2200
02:10:31,410 --> 02:10:34,860
individual member of folks in my
view, this even doesn't change

2201
02:10:34,860 --> 02:10:37,980
the definition of Germany to in
the realm of extremely relevant

2202
02:10:37,980 --> 02:10:41,400
stuff. In my humble opinion. The
iPhone turns yellowish in the

2203
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:43,650
dark. Probably not because this
makes the iPhone look better,

2204
02:10:43,650 --> 02:10:46,230
but because this makes girls
look better while they're

2205
02:10:46,230 --> 02:10:49,620
staring at their iPhones. That's
a good point.

2206
02:10:49,650 --> 02:10:50,520
That's an interest. That's

2207
02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:52,830
a good point. It's better
lighting. Yeah, that's a very

2208
02:10:52,830 --> 02:10:53,490
good point.

2209
02:10:53,940 --> 02:10:56,460
And then blue light doesn't make
it look good. It makes you look

2210
02:10:56,460 --> 02:10:57,210
ghoulish.

2211
02:10:57,240 --> 02:10:59,790
This is a good point. Thank you,
sir. Well, thank you for the

2212
02:10:59,790 --> 02:11:00,300
support.

2213
02:11:00,750 --> 02:11:05,340
There's a whole lot quite
possibly bullcrap Cinco de Kado

2214
02:11:05,370 --> 02:11:05,700
Yep.

2215
02:11:06,870 --> 02:11:11,730
Heather, right. Meyer in Green
Bay, Wisconsin. She says Happy

2216
02:11:11,730 --> 02:11:13,800
birthday to my wonderful husband
Rex. He hit me in the mouth a

2217
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:16,140
couple of years ago. I'm
donating for him as a birthday

2218
02:11:16,140 --> 02:11:19,110
gift. His birthday is on Friday.
Only

2219
02:11:19,170 --> 02:11:23,160
a donation and no agenda show
$50.68 And we're another

2220
02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:26,490
following people or $50 donors
we get run down really quickly

2221
02:11:26,490 --> 02:11:31,380
here. Edward Mazurek in Memphis,
Tennessee. 50 Alexander

2222
02:11:31,380 --> 02:11:38,520
Ciclovia, sir, if to you men,
Moscow, $50 Beaumont, Proudfoot

2223
02:11:39,030 --> 02:11:43,710
and holidays point New South
Wales. Matthew Jenna zoo ski in

2224
02:11:43,710 --> 02:11:47,460
Chicago. Once again he comes in
a lot. Adam bathe is probably

2225
02:11:47,460 --> 02:11:52,050
sir Matthew. Adam back in lost
wages Nevada Robert abrecan area

2226
02:11:52,050 --> 02:11:56,970
in Gilbert, Arizona. The Dustin
Smith in Salem, don't inhale

2227
02:11:56,970 --> 02:12:01,590
them. Oregon. Dustin Martin is
his name Dustin Martin. Stephen

2228
02:12:01,590 --> 02:12:06,630
Lind in Cape Town. South Africa.
That's one of my favourite

2229
02:12:06,630 --> 02:12:10,530
cities is Cape Town. Oh, nice.
is really a nice place. I don't

2230
02:12:10,530 --> 02:12:12,600
know what it's like I'm been
there for a while but it was

2231
02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:15,210
nice when I was nice. Steven
Linder, Joe Joe and wooddale

2232
02:12:15,210 --> 02:12:16,020
Illinois.

2233
02:12:16,590 --> 02:12:21,330
Jojo pointed something good out
here. He said that our stats on

2234
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:25,830
servicemen and women killed in
action that the civil war on the

2235
02:12:25,830 --> 02:12:28,680
PDF he looked at the PDF and he
said that was only the Union

2236
02:12:28,680 --> 02:12:32,310
forces didn't include the
Confederacy. So the the Civil

2237
02:12:32,310 --> 02:12:36,480
War did have a very very high
count much higher than we

2238
02:12:36,510 --> 02:12:37,170
reflected.

2239
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:41,010
Yeah, I heard that. Yeah. Okay.
But I think the numbers seem low

2240
02:12:41,010 --> 02:12:41,520
to me but

2241
02:12:41,940 --> 02:12:44,430
but the point is well made what
we were trying to get out of

2242
02:12:44,430 --> 02:12:44,760
that.

2243
02:12:44,940 --> 02:12:49,080
Yeah, that's the wall. Yeah,
exactly. Paul Webb in Twickenham

2244
02:12:49,950 --> 02:12:52,080
UK $50. Jeffrey might

2245
02:12:52,350 --> 02:12:56,100
be happy what's happening to
him? Oh, he says please see

2246
02:12:56,100 --> 02:12:58,500
attached currency. I scraped
overnight who was my last

2247
02:12:58,500 --> 02:13:01,140
donation last year but sent over
another 50 Today it promises

2248
02:13:01,140 --> 02:13:04,170
more to follow. So he'll be
knighted today. Perfect. Thanks

2249
02:13:04,170 --> 02:13:07,080
for the outstanding analysis of
the EU Turkey deal.

2250
02:13:08,490 --> 02:13:16,110
Jeffrey Montagnier in Phoenix,
Arizona and your Alma Gower, I

2251
02:13:16,110 --> 02:13:23,160
guess, in Waxahachie, Texas 50
Tim Abel in Bergfeld, Berkshire

2252
02:13:23,160 --> 02:13:29,370
UK, Jonathan Meyer in Mayor
Meyer in Xenia, Ohio and that

2253
02:13:29,370 --> 02:13:33,210
concludes our group of well
wishers and confidants for the

2254
02:13:33,210 --> 02:13:34,080
show just

2255
02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:36,480
a couple of birthdays here. We
normally don't talk about

2256
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:39,810
anything below $50 Mainly for
reasons of anonymity but Sir Sam

2257
02:13:39,810 --> 02:13:43,500
Liang came in with 4516
Christopher bead from

2258
02:13:43,500 --> 02:13:48,540
Indianapolis, Chris Hart,
Abbotsford, British Columbia,

2259
02:13:48,540 --> 02:13:52,230
John Adams Stratford,
Connecticut anonymous, Tainan

2260
02:13:52,230 --> 02:13:57,990
city in Taiwan. A three day
Johnny in Hicksville, New York,

2261
02:13:58,080 --> 02:14:07,830
Brian rockety merace. More
Accardi and Tacoma Kai Moria Rob

2262
02:14:07,830 --> 02:14:11,400
Warren Hi, Rob Warren and
Sunderland. Get my nation East

2263
02:14:11,400 --> 02:14:15,960
Erin Murphy and Rio Rancho New
Mexico. Robert Bruckner in

2264
02:14:15,960 --> 02:14:20,250
Gilbert Arizona. Doug Dodge in
Camarillo, California Brian

2265
02:14:20,250 --> 02:14:24,360
warden in Downes, Illinois, and
Wesley Clark not the Wesley card

2266
02:14:24,360 --> 02:14:27,300
but are Wesley Clark from
Stanley North Carolina. Thank

2267
02:14:27,300 --> 02:14:30,060
you all very much. Thanks for
making John's birthday great

2268
02:14:30,060 --> 02:14:32,520
everybody especially the meet up
in New York I'm a little jail

2269
02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:36,420
little jelly. You should be
little jelly just just a tad

2270
02:14:36,420 --> 02:14:38,340
because it sounds like it was
really a lot of fun.

2271
02:14:38,730 --> 02:14:42,660
It was actually a lot of fun and
when I get Jim says Jay was

2272
02:14:42,660 --> 02:14:46,020
there who now apparently
according to everybody needs a

2273
02:14:46,020 --> 02:14:50,100
nickname. Jay needs a nickname.
And now she's right Yeah, cuz

2274
02:14:50,100 --> 02:14:53,130
you got buzzkill Jr. You got
Eric shield. There's nothing for

2275
02:14:53,130 --> 02:14:56,370
J She seems a little miffed by
this. Somebody pointed it out.

2276
02:14:56,460 --> 02:14:58,170
Okay, how about the princess?

2277
02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:01,290
Oh, just to piss her off

2278
02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:05,040
the princess was there that
would piss her off I'm sure

2279
02:15:05,100 --> 02:15:07,230
that's why we're gonna use it.
No we can't now

2280
02:15:07,380 --> 02:15:10,980
she What I liked about having
the VI we had the old family

2281
02:15:10,980 --> 02:15:15,330
Mimi was there and buzzkill JR
and his wife. But for Jay To me

2282
02:15:15,330 --> 02:15:18,180
this was Alicia got to
experience on I think it was a

2283
02:15:18,180 --> 02:15:22,080
break pay Manhattan style
cocktail party, which is

2284
02:15:22,080 --> 02:15:24,450
slightly different than you get
here on the West Coast. Oh,

2285
02:15:24,450 --> 02:15:27,240
yeah. Oh, yeah. It's a little
more raucous. It's a little more

2286
02:15:27,270 --> 02:15:29,880
booze flowing and more talkative

2287
02:15:29,880 --> 02:15:30,810
and names dropping.

2288
02:15:31,170 --> 02:15:33,570
It's beautiful. You get into
these these if there's watch

2289
02:15:33,570 --> 02:15:36,120
Silicon Valley and watch some of
the parties that they show.

2290
02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:37,830
There's just a bunch of people
standing around. Nobody's

2291
02:15:37,830 --> 02:15:40,830
talking to each other. You're
too shy. I admit

2292
02:15:40,830 --> 02:15:44,940
I have. I have started to watch
the third season and I was not I

2293
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:49,500
didn't like it at all. But man,
this is so recognisable, so down

2294
02:15:49,500 --> 02:15:52,650
rounds of all this stuff.
Everything bridge like it's all

2295
02:15:52,650 --> 02:15:55,620
so recognisable, every single
bit of it is really funny, but

2296
02:15:55,620 --> 02:16:00,000
yeah, they rent out gank at the
stadium that was AT and T Park.

2297
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:01,350
Nobody in it.

2298
02:16:02,340 --> 02:16:05,430
Nobody in it, but you guys
standing around drinking tap

2299
02:16:05,430 --> 02:16:05,970
beer.

2300
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:10,170
So question though, just to wrap
up the New York visit. Do you

2301
02:16:10,170 --> 02:16:13,980
think that any member of your
family well, now maybe listen to

2302
02:16:13,980 --> 02:16:15,090
an episode of the show?

2303
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:19,410
I really seriously doubt it.
Jobs,

2304
02:16:19,559 --> 02:16:23,759
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote
for jobs.

2305
02:16:25,650 --> 02:16:28,230
are going buddy thank you so
much, especially people that

2306
02:16:28,230 --> 02:16:37,860
have $50 in our monthlies. We
appreciate it very low. On the

2307
02:16:37,860 --> 02:16:40,290
list today, we got Tom Schneider
who celebrated his birthday

2308
02:16:40,290 --> 02:16:42,900
yesterday. Heather right Myers
is Happy Birthday to our

2309
02:16:42,900 --> 02:16:45,990
wonderful husband Rex. He will
be celebrating tomorrow. also

2310
02:16:45,990 --> 02:16:49,320
celebrating tomorrow sir Mad
Hatter who been turning 42 years

2311
02:16:49,320 --> 02:16:55,980
old Happy Birthday smiley
buddies here the best podcast so

2312
02:16:55,980 --> 02:17:02,910
we do have 190 today. Paul Webb
so if he can get your long blade

2313
02:17:02,940 --> 02:17:05,280
that sounded like that. That was
my blade. Yeah, I got it right

2314
02:17:05,280 --> 02:17:09,600
here. That's your buddy. Come
on, man. Step on up you didn't

2315
02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:12,420
even know you would achieve
knighthood. It happens. We see

2316
02:17:12,420 --> 02:17:15,960
it all the time with people who
are on a $50 a month plans. And

2317
02:17:15,960 --> 02:17:20,310
it is also highly appreciated.
And I'm very very proud to

2318
02:17:20,310 --> 02:17:22,590
welcome you to the table of the
Knights in the Dames and I

2319
02:17:22,590 --> 02:17:27,030
hereby pronounce the K v Serpong
of Twickenham. And for you of

2320
02:17:27,030 --> 02:17:30,690
course we have hookers and blow
rent boys and Chardonnay cheap

2321
02:17:30,690 --> 02:17:33,360
wine and chilli dogs raspberry
pies and breakfast burritos,

2322
02:17:33,450 --> 02:17:36,210
progressive rock and Russian
Imperial Stout Saki and sushi

2323
02:17:36,210 --> 02:17:38,880
Root Beer pepperoni pizza,
puppies and Taylor's vintage

2324
02:17:38,880 --> 02:17:44,100
pork, malted barley and hops.
That's dominatrix porn stars

2325
02:17:44,100 --> 02:17:46,950
upon Maker's Mark and mushrooms
librarians and Jager bombs

2326
02:17:47,190 --> 02:17:50,460
Jerboas and ginger ale and of
course mountain Mead. Oh god

2327
02:17:52,710 --> 02:17:55,830
dammit. I was not meant

2328
02:17:55,830 --> 02:17:58,200
that I tried to make old is it
the creds

2329
02:17:58,530 --> 02:18:02,340
it's the trees now it's the
trees. So always trees. It's the

2330
02:18:02,340 --> 02:18:07,980
trees fallen then pollen is
right. Crew. Okay. I have a

2331
02:18:08,010 --> 02:18:13,350
couple of things. Oh, first of
all a little Correct. Cioni The

2332
02:18:13,350 --> 02:18:16,740
White House has come back as
they were under fire. You recall

2333
02:18:16,740 --> 02:18:19,080
that there was blatant
propaganda going on here to

2334
02:18:19,080 --> 02:18:22,020
which we were all shocked when
they had edited out the term

2335
02:18:22,050 --> 02:18:27,210
Islamist terrorists Islamist
terrorists from French president

2336
02:18:28,770 --> 02:18:31,560
I still think is one of the wow
well so they've they

2337
02:18:31,559 --> 02:18:33,809
have now come out and they made
a statement they made a

2338
02:18:33,809 --> 02:18:37,379
statement of a technical issue
with the audio during the

2339
02:18:37,379 --> 02:18:40,619
recording glitch.

2340
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:43,410
Somehow you could find that clip
but they could

2341
02:18:43,440 --> 02:18:45,990
that technical issue with the
audio during the recording of

2342
02:18:45,990 --> 02:18:48,750
present or lungs remark led to a
brief drop in the audio

2343
02:18:48,750 --> 02:18:51,810
recording of the English
interpretation. As soon as this

2344
02:18:51,810 --> 02:18:54,630
was brought to our attention we
posted an updated video online

2345
02:18:54,630 --> 02:18:57,060
here with the complete audio
which is consistent with the

2346
02:18:57,060 --> 02:19:01,650
written transcript we released
yesterday. Very good.

2347
02:19:01,920 --> 02:19:04,890
Well let me get to it. Let me
ask you again. How did you get

2348
02:19:04,890 --> 02:19:09,180
it? Does it was a glitch that
apparently was a major glitch.

2349
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:11,490
How did you get the clip? How
did you get the clip?

2350
02:19:11,820 --> 02:19:16,620
I played the glitch clip I did
have the you played the other

2351
02:19:16,620 --> 02:19:20,160
when you played both did I guess
I did. I don't remember? I don't

2352
02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:23,790
remember but I got it from
sources. I can't disclose my

2353
02:19:23,790 --> 02:19:27,600
sources. I protect our sources,
sources. It's our sources. But

2354
02:19:27,600 --> 02:19:31,980
anyway, cheap, cheap low as
excuse Oh, it was a computer

2355
02:19:31,980 --> 02:19:36,780
glitch? Why do people take this
crap seriously anymore? And

2356
02:19:37,140 --> 02:19:41,160
something else now that I've
been training ever since I've

2357
02:19:42,090 --> 02:19:45,870
ever since I've been in this
place I've really been training

2358
02:19:45,900 --> 02:19:49,980
myself to listen as much as I
can. It's very hard to do when

2359
02:19:49,980 --> 02:19:53,430
when you got arms flying
everywhere, but the depression

2360
02:19:53,430 --> 02:19:57,150
indicators now and I know you're
always on the lookout for this

2361
02:19:57,150 --> 02:20:00,660
and I want to throw one by you
and see if maybe There's some

2362
02:20:00,900 --> 02:20:06,480
depression indicators that that
are coming around. And I implore

2363
02:20:06,480 --> 02:20:10,770
everybody to try and find these
for the show. And this really

2364
02:20:10,770 --> 02:20:14,340
comes on the heels of Donald
Trump's prediction that we're

2365
02:20:14,340 --> 02:20:17,790
going to see a huge recession.
In.

2366
02:20:17,820 --> 02:20:20,520
I think it's interesting he did
that. Yeah, actually, I'll

2367
02:20:20,520 --> 02:20:23,730
play the I got a clip here on
second. That'd be kind of good.

2368
02:20:26,760 --> 02:20:32,130
Where was it? Ah, oh, yeah. Here
it is CNBC,

2369
02:20:32,340 --> 02:20:36,000
Donald Trump warns of an
economic downturn. In an

2370
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:38,250
interview with the Washington
Post. The billionaire

2371
02:20:38,250 --> 02:20:42,210
businessman and GOP front runner
predicts the US economy is on

2372
02:20:42,210 --> 02:20:46,470
the verge of a very massive
recession. But economists say

2373
02:20:46,470 --> 02:20:50,250
he's wrong. Some say while the
stock market may be overvalued.

2374
02:20:50,250 --> 02:20:54,450
That does not mean a recession
is coming. Trump has had a tough

2375
02:20:54,450 --> 02:20:57,870
week on the campaign trail after
struggling to articulate his

2376
02:20:57,870 --> 02:21:02,040
views on abortion, among other
missteps. The bottom line,

2377
02:21:02,310 --> 02:21:04,470
economists question Trump's
call.

2378
02:21:04,500 --> 02:21:06,960
Alright. Well, the one thing I
know with Trump is he tends to

2379
02:21:06,960 --> 02:21:10,230
say things in advance and they
tend and they tend to be right.

2380
02:21:11,940 --> 02:21:14,250
But I don't know if he's ever
done that with the economy. But

2381
02:21:14,280 --> 02:21:17,670
when I heard that my ears perked
up, because I'm going that's

2382
02:21:17,670 --> 02:21:21,450
what Johnny says. Do you have
any comments on that before I've

2383
02:21:21,450 --> 02:21:21,720
always

2384
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:24,480
had the sense that this this
deconstruction I've done of the

2385
02:21:24,480 --> 02:21:30,780
economic cycle, which results in
this eventual book is nothing

2386
02:21:30,780 --> 02:21:34,380
new. I think a lot of people
know about I think the whole fed

2387
02:21:34,380 --> 02:21:37,110
in it, I think Bernanke knew
about it for sure. And I think

2388
02:21:37,110 --> 02:21:38,910
it's very easy to make this
prediction.

2389
02:21:39,060 --> 02:21:42,660
All right. So I have what I
think is an indicator I may be

2390
02:21:42,660 --> 02:21:46,140
wrong, but it's a trend and I've
noticed it and I'm thinking this

2391
02:21:46,140 --> 02:21:51,030
is something this is a callback
in a somewhat modern or newer

2392
02:21:51,030 --> 02:21:56,100
version. You ready? Yeah. Adult
colouring books.

2393
02:21:57,600 --> 02:22:02,460
Okay, now that you mentioned
that but j the princess Yes. J

2394
02:22:02,460 --> 02:22:07,200
The princess that I work J The J
The Princess and Mimi. We're

2395
02:22:07,650 --> 02:22:10,140
doing these colouring books on
the flight back and the flight

2396
02:22:10,140 --> 02:22:13,020
over the fight over and the
flight back and they get these

2397
02:22:13,020 --> 02:22:16,020
shoots they get first of all
that is a great business for the

2398
02:22:16,050 --> 02:22:18,750
people that make these colouring
pens. Oh, they're

2399
02:22:18,750 --> 02:22:21,960
almost out they're sold out
everywhere. Yeah, you can't

2400
02:22:21,960 --> 02:22:25,050
find a colour of these pencils
with J has like this huge and

2401
02:22:25,050 --> 02:22:26,130
must be 40 pairs.

2402
02:22:26,130 --> 02:22:29,430
There's a global global pen and
pencil shortage.

2403
02:22:30,330 --> 02:22:34,950
Well, they use the pens the art
pens. And these colouring books

2404
02:22:34,950 --> 02:22:38,070
are very elaborate. I mean he
really gives us and it's a good

2405
02:22:38,070 --> 02:22:39,960
way to kill time according to
the two of

2406
02:22:39,960 --> 02:22:44,550
them and if you searched around,
which I did, that is extremely

2407
02:22:44,550 --> 02:22:47,820
good. Who for people who are
depressed they feel depressed.

2408
02:22:47,820 --> 02:22:50,310
This is the Oh to get an adult
colouring book and this is a

2409
02:22:50,310 --> 02:22:55,470
throwback to needlepoint and
samplers, which people used to

2410
02:22:55,470 --> 02:22:56,460
do back in the day.

2411
02:22:56,820 --> 02:22:59,700
Hang them on the wall haha yeah,
I thank you

2412
02:22:59,700 --> 02:23:05,220
very much. Thank you. They also
had colouring books again.

2413
02:23:05,880 --> 02:23:09,870
From me. I had not considered
this and I did was supposed to

2414
02:23:09,870 --> 02:23:12,840
be looking for you were exposed
to it no less. And I was exposed

2415
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:17,010
to it no less. And I didn't put
two and two together the dad on

2416
02:23:17,010 --> 02:23:19,530
Did you get any on you when you
were exposed? I hope you hope

2417
02:23:19,530 --> 02:23:21,090
you dosed against

2418
02:23:24,150 --> 02:23:27,420
Yeah, yeah. And I'm seeing it
nice. Yeah, I'm seeing it every

2419
02:23:27,420 --> 02:23:30,300
last clip of the day. Oh,
there's no no, that's too bad.

2420
02:23:30,660 --> 02:23:33,630
I'm good because I thought Pam
that looks really

2421
02:23:34,680 --> 02:23:39,420
adult colouring books and
needlepoint. Yeah. Damn. Yeah.

2422
02:23:39,630 --> 02:23:43,050
samplers. Remember those
samples? You have? My mom My mom

2423
02:23:43,050 --> 02:23:45,930
had a sampler on the wall. Well,
jays finished a couple of these

2424
02:23:45,930 --> 02:23:47,460
at the fringes. The princess.

2425
02:23:47,520 --> 02:23:52,320
They're beautiful. They're very
frameable. These adult colouring

2426
02:23:52,320 --> 02:23:56,490
books and no, it's not a slouch.
It's good art. That's why you

2427
02:23:56,490 --> 02:23:57,090
fell or it is

2428
02:23:57,090 --> 02:23:57,960
beautiful right now.

2429
02:23:57,960 --> 02:24:01,020
It's beautiful. It's a beautiful
day. My mom had a sampler on the

2430
02:24:01,020 --> 02:24:04,560
wall that she had two of them.
One when they were from my great

2431
02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:09,660
grandmother, I remember. What
was beautiful. No. The road is

2432
02:24:09,660 --> 02:24:13,320
never long to a friend's house.
That was one. And the other one

2433
02:24:13,320 --> 02:24:17,880
was I felt bad for myself.
Because I had no shoes until I

2434
02:24:17,880 --> 02:24:22,020
met a man who had no feet. No
feet. Yeah, exactly. You know,

2435
02:24:22,050 --> 02:24:25,680
then that's what I grew up with.
And life is not fair. Shut up

2436
02:24:25,680 --> 02:24:28,200
and do your chores. That was
another sample was on my wall.

2437
02:24:31,980 --> 02:24:36,540
I think you nailed it. I'm glad
you like it more to be said and

2438
02:24:36,540 --> 02:24:39,630
I experienced You're right. And
the two of them just grinding

2439
02:24:39,630 --> 02:24:44,190
away on these things. And
they're very Yeah, I'm sure.

2440
02:24:44,760 --> 02:24:47,880
But for depression, why not in
that interesting. Yeah, it's

2441
02:24:47,880 --> 02:24:51,060
very interesting. I was just
oblivious. Damn,

2442
02:24:51,150 --> 02:24:51,840
I hate that.

2443
02:24:52,350 --> 02:24:54,420
Hey, the president said
something very interesting,

2444
02:24:54,450 --> 02:24:56,940
which to me, I don't know why
this didn't get any more play

2445
02:24:56,940 --> 02:24:59,700
this nuclear summit he he did a
lot of talking about this

2446
02:24:59,700 --> 02:25:02,640
nuclear Osama bullets. I got
lots of clips from that, which

2447
02:25:02,640 --> 02:25:06,360
of course isn't just all
everyone was talking, just

2448
02:25:06,360 --> 02:25:09,750
talking diarrhoea of the mouth.
The President pretty much agreed

2449
02:25:10,380 --> 02:25:13,890
that we do drone strikes that
kill civilians. This has never

2450
02:25:13,890 --> 02:25:17,640
been admitted. Has it? Has
anyone

2451
02:25:17,639 --> 02:25:20,069
ever beaten around the bush
about it? I don't think he's

2452
02:25:20,069 --> 02:25:22,109
actually said that straight up.

2453
02:25:22,289 --> 02:25:28,379
I think there's been in the past
legitimate criticism that the,

2454
02:25:29,849 --> 02:25:34,619
the architecture and the legal
architecture around the use of

2455
02:25:34,649 --> 02:25:38,879
drone strikes, or other kinetic
strikes wasn't as precise as it

2456
02:25:38,879 --> 02:25:42,569
should have been. And there's no
doubt that civilians were

2457
02:25:42,569 --> 02:25:43,859
killed. That shouldn't have
been,

2458
02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:47,610
but I got it. I got it. He just
found out

2459
02:25:53,910 --> 02:25:58,260
he admitted it. Come on, man.
Found out. That's unbelievable.

2460
02:25:58,530 --> 02:25:59,400
It's like Oh, my God.

2461
02:26:00,900 --> 02:26:03,630
Oh, my God. We killed civilians.
I'm shocked. I

2462
02:26:03,630 --> 02:26:05,730
tell. Other things go well,

2463
02:26:05,730 --> 02:26:09,240
I'm shocked. I tell you, how can
I how can this be how can this

2464
02:26:09,240 --> 02:26:14,070
be? Doc? Oh, oh, Uma, Uber,
Aberdeen, Uber, amor de Houma,

2465
02:26:14,070 --> 02:26:18,630
Aberdeen, and I have to just
talk about whom Aberdeen married

2466
02:26:18,630 --> 02:26:23,280
to Anthony Weiner. And my theory
has always been that she is

2467
02:26:23,790 --> 02:26:27,510
Hillary Clinton's lover. That's
why she'd be Hillary plucked her

2468
02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:31,260
out of the intern pool, runs in
the family runs in the family.

2469
02:26:31,740 --> 02:26:32,340
And

2470
02:26:32,460 --> 02:26:35,850
you have a theory. I'm sorry.
That's not much of a theory. Oh,

2471
02:26:35,850 --> 02:26:38,550
but wait, I'm obviously true.
Okay,

2472
02:26:38,550 --> 02:26:42,480
there you go. And Anthony
Weiner, was just the beard. And

2473
02:26:42,480 --> 02:26:44,370
he was promised. Yeah. And he
was promised a

2474
02:26:44,789 --> 02:26:47,699
he was on a faster on his
private price. Everybody would

2475
02:26:47,729 --> 02:26:48,599
look. Yeah, well, he

2476
02:26:48,600 --> 02:26:51,510
was on a fast track, but he knew
that men are stupid. And you

2477
02:26:51,510 --> 02:26:53,610
know, the certain point all the
blood drained out of his head

2478
02:26:53,610 --> 02:26:54,510
and he started to maybe

2479
02:26:54,600 --> 02:26:59,310
uma would have done done him a
favour once. Wow, you're really

2480
02:26:59,310 --> 02:27:05,490
saying this man. Okay. Thanks,
Joe. Is that how it works? No, I

2481
02:27:05,490 --> 02:27:07,800
think uma may be a man hating
lesbian.

2482
02:27:08,550 --> 02:27:09,870
A man hater. Yeah, I

2483
02:27:09,870 --> 02:27:14,040
think so. It's possible. It's
possible. Anyway, she did a

2484
02:27:14,040 --> 02:27:17,940
podcast called call your
girlfriend the call your

2485
02:27:17,940 --> 02:27:21,720
girlfriend podcast, and the
premise of the podcast? Yeah,

2486
02:27:21,720 --> 02:27:24,240
it's called call your
girlfriend. And the premise of

2487
02:27:24,240 --> 02:27:28,710
the podcast is the kind of stuff
you call up until your

2488
02:27:28,710 --> 02:27:31,350
girlfriend. Oh, my God,
girlfriend, you won't believe

2489
02:27:31,350 --> 02:27:35,130
what happened. I think that's it
while you're looking into the

2490
02:27:35,130 --> 02:27:39,390
yellow light of your iPhone. So
she went on there. And she

2491
02:27:39,390 --> 02:27:43,470
talked about how the first time
she met Hillary Clinton. And

2492
02:27:43,500 --> 02:27:47,790
first of all, her her cadence
you'll hear is very Clinton ask.

2493
02:27:48,090 --> 02:27:49,860
She's completely infected.

2494
02:27:51,420 --> 02:27:54,480
Oh, yeah. That's yeah, you hear
this at all that all the staff,

2495
02:27:54,510 --> 02:27:58,110
all the women on the staff speak
around Hillary and a lot of them

2496
02:27:58,110 --> 02:28:02,400
in the Obama White House to have
this cadence. That's very, yeah.

2497
02:28:02,460 --> 02:28:05,760
Well, it's not even the same
sorority? No.

2498
02:28:06,900 --> 02:28:09,120
But I thought this was an
interesting bit to listen to.

2499
02:28:09,120 --> 02:28:11,550
And for you know, it's fun to
play other podcasts from time to

2500
02:28:11,550 --> 02:28:11,940
time. Can

2501
02:28:11,940 --> 02:28:15,030
you tell us about the first time
that you met Hillary Clinton?

2502
02:28:15,030 --> 02:28:17,940
Like, what is it like just
meeting this? I, you know, like,

2503
02:28:18,360 --> 02:28:19,470
iconic figure

2504
02:28:19,470 --> 02:28:22,680
like, Oh, my What do you think
John was like being this? Oh, it

2505
02:28:22,680 --> 02:28:25,320
was a real iconic cigar

2506
02:28:26,400 --> 02:28:31,110
meeting. I, you know, like an
iconic figure like in politics,

2507
02:28:31,140 --> 02:28:34,950
politics. President Clinton had
his reelection. A few of us in

2508
02:28:34,950 --> 02:28:37,920
turns went to Little Rock and
that was so that was in November

2509
02:28:37,920 --> 02:28:38,550
obviously,

2510
02:28:38,580 --> 02:28:42,630
doesn't sound like Chelsea if
you just Chelsea a little fat a

2511
02:28:42,630 --> 02:28:44,940
little faster than Chelsea
speaks. He speaks quite a bit

2512
02:28:44,940 --> 02:28:46,740
like Chelsea Yeah, it was a
little bit.

2513
02:28:47,490 --> 02:28:52,470
November, obviously. And I
remember being at the rally in

2514
02:28:52,470 --> 02:28:55,410
Little Rock, and it was election
night. And obviously, he was

2515
02:28:55,710 --> 02:28:59,460
reelected. And I remember being
on the rope line. And there are

2516
02:28:59,460 --> 02:29:02,970
1000s and 1000s of people and I
was you know, with a whole bunch

2517
02:29:02,970 --> 02:29:06,540
of my friends and, and, you
know, I had I had met her

2518
02:29:06,540 --> 02:29:09,990
before, like I said, in this
photo for 30 seconds. They come

2519
02:29:09,990 --> 02:29:14,010
out and the crowds electric. I
know. So you want to know these

2520
02:29:14,010 --> 02:29:16,920
things that happen in your life,
they just stick that she walked

2521
02:29:16,920 --> 02:29:22,770
by, and she shook my hand and
our eyes connected. And I just

2522
02:29:22,770 --> 02:29:25,920
remember having this moment
where I thought, wow, you know,

2523
02:29:25,920 --> 02:29:32,190
this is amazing. And I just, it
just inspired me and you know, I

2524
02:29:32,190 --> 02:29:35,220
still remember the look on her
face. And it's funny and she

2525
02:29:35,220 --> 02:29:38,070
would probably be so annoyed
that I say this, but I remember

2526
02:29:38,070 --> 02:29:41,550
thinking oh my gosh, she's so
beautiful. And she's so little

2527
02:29:43,230 --> 02:29:45,870
sort of because you know, people
have different on TV I just

2528
02:29:45,870 --> 02:29:49,830
thought wow. And I had such a
fan girl when I'm in and I was

2529
02:29:49,830 --> 02:29:50,340
just giving

2530
02:29:50,340 --> 02:29:52,170
her the middle finger on her
poem this

2531
02:29:54,570 --> 02:30:00,330
Wow, she's so I looked at her
eyes locks and Susan show Her

2532
02:30:00,360 --> 02:30:04,980
eyes locked and then all of a
sudden, Wow, she's so tiny and

2533
02:30:04,980 --> 02:30:12,360
beautiful. I had a fangirl
moment. Okay, fine.

2534
02:30:12,810 --> 02:30:15,720
Wow, borderline Clip of the Day,

2535
02:30:15,750 --> 02:30:28,380
I'll take that I'm sorry, wrong
one, I meant this one to the

2536
02:30:28,380 --> 02:30:31,440
gate to the gate to the clinic.
Hey, we

2537
02:30:31,440 --> 02:30:33,930
go to the climate gateway
remodel.

2538
02:30:35,610 --> 02:30:40,800
First one comes from a little
sesh little sesh with our White

2539
02:30:40,800 --> 02:30:44,820
House Science Advisor, you know
what that is John Podesta, one

2540
02:30:44,820 --> 02:30:48,090
of the very same people who
warned us for global cooling in

2541
02:30:48,090 --> 02:30:53,220
the 70s. Documents, articles
prove it. He's all in on global

2542
02:30:53,220 --> 02:30:55,830
warming and climate change. Now,
of course, and along for the

2543
02:30:55,830 --> 02:30:57,270
ride is Gina McCarthy.

2544
02:30:58,530 --> 02:31:01,710
Who did the work in there. Yeah,
McCarthy still working that

2545
02:31:01,710 --> 02:31:03,840
should have been fired after the
Flint, Michigan.

2546
02:31:03,870 --> 02:31:07,410
Yeah, I agree. But she's there,
she's there. She's the head of

2547
02:31:07,410 --> 02:31:11,580
the Environmental Protection
Agency. Talking about? Well,

2548
02:31:12,090 --> 02:31:14,880
really, it's really, it's really
bad John's it's really, really

2549
02:31:14,880 --> 02:31:15,450
bad. Last

2550
02:31:15,450 --> 02:31:19,140
one that I would mention that is
very striking, I think in this

2551
02:31:19,140 --> 02:31:25,020
report is heat related illness
and death. The report projects

2552
02:31:25,020 --> 02:31:29,130
that under middle of the road
emissions scenarios, we can see

2553
02:31:29,130 --> 02:31:33,750
from 1000s to 10s of 1000s of
additional heat related deaths

2554
02:31:33,840 --> 02:31:37,860
in the United States each
summer. And the numbers are

2555
02:31:37,860 --> 02:31:41,520
really very striking. And it
comes from the fact that modest

2556
02:31:41,520 --> 02:31:45,870
increases in average temperature
are associated with large

2557
02:31:45,870 --> 02:31:50,070
increases at the tails of the
distribution. And that means big

2558
02:31:50,070 --> 02:31:54,090
increases in extreme heat
events, extremely hot days. And

2559
02:31:54,090 --> 02:31:57,990
heat waves which mean five or
more extremely hot days in a

2560
02:31:57,990 --> 02:32:02,310
row. In some parts of the world.
When you look more broadly at

2561
02:32:02,310 --> 02:32:06,300
this question, you see the
likelihood that in the hottest

2562
02:32:06,330 --> 02:32:09,450
times of the year, it will be
simply physiologically

2563
02:32:09,450 --> 02:32:13,530
impossible to work outdoors.
That means agriculture, that

2564
02:32:13,530 --> 02:32:17,610
means construction, people who
try to work outdoors, will

2565
02:32:17,610 --> 02:32:21,540
basically be unable to control
their body temperature and will

2566
02:32:21,540 --> 02:32:26,820
die. That this is a really,
really big deal. And it's going

2567
02:32:26,820 --> 02:32:29,760
to be a big deal in the hottest
parts of the United States as

2568
02:32:29,760 --> 02:32:34,440
well as in the Middle East, in
South Asia. And, and other

2569
02:32:34,440 --> 02:32:34,980
places.

2570
02:32:36,540 --> 02:32:42,600
Yeah, nice. Because it's gonna
get just a little bit hotter.

2571
02:32:42,990 --> 02:32:47,070
Everyone's gonna die. Oh, you
work in construction, I cook you

2572
02:32:47,070 --> 02:32:49,710
work in construction, you're
gonna die, you're gonna die. But

2573
02:32:49,710 --> 02:32:53,010
that's not quite as nutty as
Bill Nye the Science Guy. Who

2574
02:32:53,010 --> 02:32:56,010
knows we're all gonna die if we
don't stop global warming. Where

2575
02:32:56,010 --> 02:33:01,470
was he was on. Oh, I can't
remember where this was from,

2576
02:33:01,470 --> 02:33:02,580
but it was worth listening to.

2577
02:33:02,610 --> 02:33:05,910
They're in denial. They're just
adamant. They don't see the

2578
02:33:05,910 --> 02:33:08,790
connection between carbon
dioxide and methane in the world

2579
02:33:08,790 --> 02:33:13,200
getting warmer. They ignore all
the data. So it's very troubling

2580
02:33:13,200 --> 02:33:17,040
you guys. It's really the
conservatives have gotten funded

2581
02:33:17,040 --> 02:33:19,710
by the fossil fuel industry. And
there's been this you know, the

2582
02:33:19,710 --> 02:33:22,920
P there's been concern that the
number of people in the voting

2583
02:33:22,920 --> 02:33:26,670
populace is not very high with
respect to climate change.

2584
02:33:26,670 --> 02:33:28,500
They're not heard. They haven't
heard of it. They don't remember

2585
02:33:28,500 --> 02:33:31,290
it. They've set it aside in
their minds. And that's because

2586
02:33:31,290 --> 02:33:35,010
of the success of these deniers
that have worked so hard, funded

2587
02:33:35,040 --> 02:33:41,010
almost entirely by the fossil
fuel industry. And while you're

2588
02:33:41,010 --> 02:33:46,830
out there, don't be surprised
after the conservatives, the

2589
02:33:46,830 --> 02:33:50,670
Republicans pick somebody yes,
this person goes well I've been

2590
02:33:50,670 --> 02:33:53,730
thinking about it and climate
changes are a big issue because

2591
02:33:53,730 --> 02:33:57,540
I don't think they can quite get
enough they I don't think the

2592
02:33:57,540 --> 02:34:01,980
party can quite get enough votes
without millennials. A climate

2593
02:34:01,980 --> 02:34:05,970
denial is almost entirely
generational you only now and

2594
02:34:05,970 --> 02:34:09,480
then you meet a young person.
Nobody Your age is a climate

2595
02:34:09,480 --> 02:34:15,240
denier very fast so it's all
people not true.

2596
02:34:15,300 --> 02:34:19,470
No of course it's not true as
white the guy's douche. And he's

2597
02:34:19,470 --> 02:34:19,890
saying that

2598
02:34:20,130 --> 02:34:23,730
conservatives is a lie which is
the Oh any climate denier is

2599
02:34:23,730 --> 02:34:26,100
funded by the fossil fuel
industry. Oh,

2600
02:34:26,130 --> 02:34:32,580
yes. All of them. But he says
conservatives are money. Wait,

2601
02:34:32,610 --> 02:34:35,370
wait until they need the
millennials I'm gonna switch

2602
02:34:35,370 --> 02:34:38,280
positions on climate change.
Yeah, okay. No red book for you

2603
02:34:38,310 --> 02:34:43,320
Nye The idiot. That's not how
it's gonna work. Doom cop.

2604
02:34:43,950 --> 02:34:46,620
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

2605
02:34:47,970 --> 02:34:49,050
Yeah, okay.

2606
02:34:51,150 --> 02:34:53,100
Once you guys don't clothed I
got a

2607
02:34:53,100 --> 02:34:57,330
couple of things are let's see
what we got. Um, I want to do

2608
02:34:58,170 --> 02:35:02,070
well, let's play the ISO Get
that out of the way. So you can

2609
02:35:02,070 --> 02:35:03,540
use it later in the show. I
hope.

2610
02:35:03,900 --> 02:35:05,370
Okay, the ISO

2611
02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:07,530
Be aware of your surroundings at
all times.

2612
02:35:08,580 --> 02:35:11,850
Good one. It's in now.

2613
02:35:13,320 --> 02:35:17,760
I got to hear the Hillary
rounding. Yeah, ah, okay, a

2614
02:35:17,910 --> 02:35:22,230
whole to get and they've got a
speech from Hillary talking to

2615
02:35:22,230 --> 02:35:26,130
the AFL CIO. And here she is I
had gay have her birth Hillary

2616
02:35:26,130 --> 02:35:30,660
on Bernie and then I ever also
as John Dickerson, who's TBS

2617
02:35:31,050 --> 02:35:34,380
sounds which one do you want?
Let's go with Hillary on Bernie.

2618
02:35:34,380 --> 02:35:37,530
This is all the memes wrapped up
into one is the way that she

2619
02:35:37,530 --> 02:35:39,660
does what she's going after with
Bernie does it I

2620
02:35:39,660 --> 02:35:44,940
am concerned that some of his
ideas just won't work because

2621
02:35:44,940 --> 02:35:49,350
the numbers don't add numbers.
Others won't even pass Congress

2622
02:35:49,350 --> 02:35:53,280
or they rely on Republican
governors suddenly having a

2623
02:35:53,280 --> 02:35:57,480
conversion experience and
becoming progressives. Well, in

2624
02:35:57,480 --> 02:36:01,620
a number of important areas, he
doesn't have a plan at all.

2625
02:36:04,170 --> 02:36:06,960
That's it all summarised. So
let's see how John would put it.

2626
02:36:07,770 --> 02:36:13,320
I am concerned that some of his
ideas just won't work because

2627
02:36:13,320 --> 02:36:18,090
the numbers don't add up. Others
won't even pass Congress or they

2628
02:36:18,090 --> 02:36:22,260
rely on Republican governors
suddenly having a conversion

2629
02:36:22,260 --> 02:36:26,400
experience and becoming
progressives. Well, in a number

2630
02:36:26,400 --> 02:36:29,280
of important areas, he doesn't
have a plan.

2631
02:36:30,180 --> 02:36:32,160
Okay, it's I think you've played
it out now.

2632
02:36:33,270 --> 02:36:35,820
No, yeah, yeah.

2633
02:36:36,390 --> 02:36:39,150
You gotta do more production
than more production, not just

2634
02:36:39,150 --> 02:36:40,650
slowing it down. You gotta do
more slow. I

2635
02:36:40,650 --> 02:36:44,880
keep it short. Short, even more,
until you mentioned this on the

2636
02:36:44,880 --> 02:36:49,020
Face the Nation show. I'm gonna
continue to do this. Okay.

2637
02:36:50,670 --> 02:36:51,870
Let me say, Oh, I have

2638
02:36:53,070 --> 02:36:56,490
I got a an interesting little
double clip. This both happen

2639
02:36:56,490 --> 02:37:01,080
one after the other on ABC News
to anti air travel. I don't know

2640
02:37:01,080 --> 02:37:03,240
what's going on. I always find
it suspicious when they do an

2641
02:37:03,240 --> 02:37:07,980
anti air travel story. And the
first one. Actually, both of

2642
02:37:07,980 --> 02:37:10,980
these are like so inane. Why are
they doing these as national

2643
02:37:10,980 --> 02:37:15,990
news? I don't know. This first
one is the Hawaii turnaround.

2644
02:37:16,860 --> 02:37:19,980
Next this evening to a passenger
jet suddenly turning around

2645
02:37:19,980 --> 02:37:23,220
during a flight from Hawaii to
San Francisco. Because of

2646
02:37:23,220 --> 02:37:27,150
concerns over fuel halfway
across the Pacific Ocean. Here's

2647
02:37:27,150 --> 02:37:28,110
ABCs David Kerley

2648
02:37:29,010 --> 02:37:33,030
this United triple seven forced
to return to Honolulu United

2649
02:37:33,030 --> 02:37:40,710
724. For the 264 passengers on
board, it was a four hour flight

2650
02:37:40,710 --> 02:37:43,470
that ended right where it
started. The flight took off or

2651
02:37:43,470 --> 02:37:47,220
San Francisco Sunday, but about
two hours out the pilots realise

2652
02:37:47,340 --> 02:37:50,940
they're in a condition called
overborne using more fuel than

2653
02:37:50,940 --> 02:37:54,540
expected, so they decide to turn
around. Blame the weatherman

2654
02:37:54,540 --> 02:38:06,270
they tell the passengers and
stronger headwinds,

2655
02:38:06,449 --> 02:38:08,939
we do know to a great extent
what those winds are going to be

2656
02:38:08,939 --> 02:38:11,999
but that is a long stretch of
water. And there's no weather

2657
02:38:11,999 --> 02:38:12,899
stations out there.

2658
02:38:13,560 --> 02:38:16,350
airlines don't like to top off
the tanks the extra weight

2659
02:38:16,350 --> 02:38:20,100
reduces efficiency, but there
are specific requirements of how

2660
02:38:20,100 --> 02:38:23,700
much reserve fuel has to be in
those tanks. When a jet lands a

2661
02:38:23,700 --> 02:38:28,080
turnaround like this, David is
very rare. Ah

2662
02:38:29,340 --> 02:38:35,820
Is this really national news? Is
it I'm asking you? Do you think

2663
02:38:35,820 --> 02:38:36,690
this is national news?

2664
02:38:36,720 --> 02:38:39,690
No, I don't think it's national
news. I'm trying first of all, I

2665
02:38:40,230 --> 02:38:45,060
as an airman I have never
encountered the term overborne

2666
02:38:46,890 --> 02:38:49,050
so it's a

2667
02:38:49,050 --> 02:38:53,400
very suspicious story that it
exists. The next one which ran

2668
02:38:53,400 --> 02:38:56,310
right afterwards is like a one
two punch against the airlines

2669
02:38:56,670 --> 02:38:59,610
with this story which was not
definitely not national news,

2670
02:38:59,610 --> 02:39:03,030
but it was a couple of things or
production aspects of the first

2671
02:39:03,030 --> 02:39:07,620
one they had the guys on the
country. They never even had

2672
02:39:07,620 --> 02:39:09,900
that he has you notice because
we play those all the time.

2673
02:39:10,020 --> 02:39:13,080
Generally speaking, they never
do that on national news. I

2674
02:39:13,080 --> 02:39:16,680
mean, if you remember that, when
they made the Ecuadorian plane

2675
02:39:16,680 --> 02:39:20,010
or whatever it was a Cuban
flight go down and land

2676
02:39:20,010 --> 02:39:22,710
somewhere. Yeah, that's now
here's the second one which is

2677
02:39:22,710 --> 02:39:27,180
another one with crazy videos.
Oh, hold on second.

2678
02:39:29,190 --> 02:39:31,260
Crazy video I don't see anything
with crazy

2679
02:39:31,290 --> 02:39:36,000
air travel another weird Oh,
yes, no, I'm just saying this

2680
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:36,840
crazy mind mistype

2681
02:39:36,840 --> 02:39:39,810
it and also this evening new
images of an American Airlines

2682
02:39:39,810 --> 02:39:42,870
pilot arrested for being under
the influence. These new

2683
02:39:42,870 --> 02:39:45,870
surveillance images obtained by
ABC news from the Detroit

2684
02:39:45,870 --> 02:39:49,020
Metropolitan airport, showing
him arriving at the airport then

2685
02:39:49,020 --> 02:39:52,980
going through security. Later we
see him under arrest just before

2686
02:39:52,980 --> 02:39:55,830
his flight was to take off being
escorted away in handcuffs.

2687
02:39:56,010 --> 02:40:00,900
Authorities say he failed to
breathalyser tests. To

2688
02:40:03,120 --> 02:40:06,570
show the guy walking into the
airport, fine, he's not spared.

2689
02:40:08,010 --> 02:40:12,090
Comic drunk walking in. And then
he's show show another video of

2690
02:40:12,090 --> 02:40:14,790
him walking in and they show a
video of him walking out with

2691
02:40:14,790 --> 02:40:18,090
handcuffs on. What is the point
of this story?

2692
02:40:18,120 --> 02:40:20,970
Well, there's a quote the
correlation between the two is

2693
02:40:20,970 --> 02:40:24,420
automated flight without pilots,
because clearly they are not

2694
02:40:24,420 --> 02:40:28,200
managing the aircraft properly
if they overborne so much that

2695
02:40:28,560 --> 02:40:32,880
they lost an hour of fuel, which
is critical for a whole bunch of

2696
02:40:32,880 --> 02:40:35,970
reasons. I'm gonna look into
that story. I want to understand

2697
02:40:35,970 --> 02:40:39,270
overburden, I mean, it implies
you burn too much. But how do

2698
02:40:39,270 --> 02:40:40,770
you do that? You know, more than

2699
02:40:40,770 --> 02:40:42,810
you expect. You're going into a
headwind or something. Next

2700
02:40:42,810 --> 02:40:48,210
thing you know, you're burning
and burning. Yeah. Okay, so I

2701
02:40:48,210 --> 02:40:51,960
just found both these stories to
be a little weird that they were

2702
02:40:51,960 --> 02:40:54,180
they were presented and the way
they appeared.

2703
02:40:54,720 --> 02:40:59,880
Well stay on it, John, stay on,
stain on the President, for as

2704
02:40:59,880 --> 02:41:03,210
much crap as I give him for
sure. He says something really

2705
02:41:03,210 --> 02:41:06,030
good the other day to a bunch of
millennials. Nonetheless, I've

2706
02:41:06,030 --> 02:41:06,270
heard

2707
02:41:06,270 --> 02:41:10,830
some college campuses where they
don't want to have a guest

2708
02:41:10,830 --> 02:41:17,160
speaker who, you know, is too
conservative. Or they don't want

2709
02:41:17,160 --> 02:41:23,310
to read a book, if it has
language that is offensive to

2710
02:41:23,310 --> 02:41:28,980
African Americans, or somehow
sends a demeaning signal towards

2711
02:41:28,980 --> 02:41:33,900
women. And, you know, I gotta
tell you, I don't agree with

2712
02:41:33,900 --> 02:41:40,620
that either. I don't agree that
you when you become students at

2713
02:41:40,620 --> 02:41:44,550
colleges have to be coddled and
protected from different points

2714
02:41:44,550 --> 02:41:49,680
of view. Anybody who comes to
speak to you, and you disagree

2715
02:41:49,680 --> 02:41:52,620
with, you should have an
argument with them. But you

2716
02:41:52,620 --> 02:41:57,480
shouldn't silence them by saying
you can't come because, you

2717
02:41:57,480 --> 02:42:01,440
know, my sense that I'm too
sensitive to hear what you have

2718
02:42:01,470 --> 02:42:05,940
to say. That's not That's not
the way we learn either.

2719
02:42:06,030 --> 02:42:10,620
Now, what I noticed about this
clip, was there was no laughing

2720
02:42:10,860 --> 02:42:15,510
No cheering, just silence. I
think they were flabbergasted.

2721
02:42:18,660 --> 02:42:23,880
What we were doing it for you,
Obama. You've been giving us

2722
02:42:23,880 --> 02:42:29,520
signals to do this for you. And
now you're scolding us. Anything

2723
02:42:29,520 --> 02:42:35,640
I can think of? And then
grumbling after the thing event

2724
02:42:35,640 --> 02:42:40,110
was over saying the under your
breath, asshole. Guy.

2725
02:42:40,590 --> 02:42:48,420
Exactly. All right. I'm calling
it man boots. It's time to go.

2726
02:42:48,660 --> 02:42:51,960
Okay, I'm good. Okay, because I
got a couple things I got a

2727
02:42:51,960 --> 02:42:54,630
little into show duties to roll
out want to make sure we get all

2728
02:42:54,630 --> 02:42:57,390
that. So thank you all very much
for your courage and your

2729
02:42:57,390 --> 02:43:02,280
passion love and light to Merle
Haggard. And that's all I do.

2730
02:43:02,280 --> 02:43:04,440
Now when someone dies. I just
say love and light. I don't even

2731
02:43:04,440 --> 02:43:05,520
say for who just said

2732
02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:09,810
that's a good thing. Love and
Light. And the next event for me

2733
02:43:09,810 --> 02:43:13,440
will be the train ride up to
Sacramento is train museum. Oh,

2734
02:43:13,440 --> 02:43:18,270
very nice. fun party on the
California Zephyr very nice.

2735
02:43:20,520 --> 02:43:23,010
And for me, I don't know. I
don't know what I'm doing.

2736
02:43:25,230 --> 02:43:29,670
It doing what you do. We always
try to do reading legislation.

2737
02:43:30,540 --> 02:43:33,300
I could be doing worse. Thank
you for your support. Remember

2738
02:43:33,300 --> 02:43:36,600
us a divorce.org/na for a show
coming up on Sunday. That will

2739
02:43:36,600 --> 02:43:40,500
be episode 815. Until then,
coming to you from FEMA Region

2740
02:43:40,500 --> 02:43:44,040
six in the skyscraper, the
crackpot condo in downtown

2741
02:43:44,040 --> 02:43:47,850
Austin Tejas, FEMA Region six in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam

2742
02:43:47,850 --> 02:43:48,210
curry,

2743
02:43:48,360 --> 02:43:50,610
every northern Silicon Valley
where the weather's a little

2744
02:43:50,610 --> 02:43:52,920
more to my liking. John C.
Dvorak will

2745
02:43:52,920 --> 02:43:59,760
return on Sunday with more media
deconstruction right here. Adios

2746
02:43:59,760 --> 02:44:00,720
momos

2747
02:44:25,560 --> 02:44:31,290
flying over Afghanistan oh,
maybe it was time to stand. I

2748
02:44:31,290 --> 02:44:37,500
promised myself to aim myself at
every woman child and man that

2749
02:44:37,500 --> 02:44:43,680
was on my list. I don't care if
I missed. I remote controlling.

2750
02:44:43,770 --> 02:44:49,560
I do what I'm told by someone.
Come you know Obama gave me a

2751
02:44:49,560 --> 02:44:55,230
push more than Bush and I cost
millions were supposed to target

2752
02:44:55,260 --> 02:45:00,360
terrorists, but not so much
civilians. I don't know. I want

2753
02:45:00,540 --> 02:45:11,250
to say some got in my way a
drone again naturally a drone

2754
02:45:11,250 --> 02:45:14,580
again naturally

2755
02:45:14,730 --> 02:45:25,860
be aware of your surroundings at
all times Amen

2756
02:45:36,960 --> 02:45:42,210
diversity is now in some parts
of Europe seen as a threat as a

2757
02:45:42,210 --> 02:45:48,630
threat so diversity comes with
challenges, but diversity is

2758
02:45:48,690 --> 02:45:56,400
humanity's Destiny there is not
going to be even in the remotest

2759
02:45:56,400 --> 02:46:02,760
places of this planet a nation
that will not see diversity in

2760
02:46:02,760 --> 02:46:09,960
its future that's where humanity
is heading those politicians

2761
02:46:09,960 --> 02:46:14,580
trying to sell their elections
in society that is exclusively

2762
02:46:14,730 --> 02:46:18,660
composed of people from one
culture are trying to portray a

2763
02:46:18,660 --> 02:46:22,500
future based on the past that
never existed therefore that

2764
02:46:22,500 --> 02:46:24,930
future will never be invested.

2765
02:46:42,240 --> 02:46:54,720
Ye Why die

2766
02:46:58,170 --> 02:47:03,480
will be diverse, like all other
will be diverse. The only

2767
02:47:03,480 --> 02:47:05,190
question is how do we deal

2768
02:47:05,490 --> 02:47:06,540
with that diversity

2769
02:47:08,100 --> 02:47:16,890
Destiny destiny, destiny Destiny
my answer to that is by ensuring

2770
02:47:16,890 --> 02:47:30,360
that we are not giving up our
values are few that will bring

2771
02:47:30,360 --> 02:47:42,510
us down as a society. Destiny
Destiny Destiny Destiny Destiny

2772
02:48:02,220 --> 02:48:26,040
Why don't get this right. truly
believe remain the European

2773
02:48:26,040 --> 02:48:47,400
builds remain a place of peace
and freedom very long will be

2774
02:48:47,400 --> 02:48:48,570
diverse test

2775
02:48:53,460 --> 02:49:06,780
me diverse. Destiny. Destiny.
Destiny Destiny destiny,

2776
02:49:07,170 --> 02:49:19,650
destiny, Europe will be diverse
best best. Best. Best. Best best

2777
02:49:24,090 --> 02:49:40,050
for this world that book protein
powder. Yes. The Cricket stuff

2778
02:49:40,380 --> 02:49:45,510
Ferriss into? Do you like that?
I like bugs wrong. Okay, so what

2779
02:49:45,510 --> 02:49:46,380
do we do with a spreadsheet?

2780
02:49:46,380 --> 02:49:48,960
I'm gonna send a note to Eric
and maybe he can fix it or not.

2781
02:49:51,900 --> 02:50:19,950
I call people non disabled.
Disabled guys Is that is my end

2782
02:50:26,430 --> 02:50:27,690
question is how can we do

2783
02:50:32,040 --> 02:50:41,130
that what do we do with the
spreadsheet

2784
02:50:45,870 --> 02:50:55,710
Amen first of all, adios
mopho.org/n A