I went Oh, wow. He said, Oh, wow. Oh man, Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, August 28 2014. It's time for
your gizmo nation media assassination, Episode 647. This
is no agenda overflowing with pre monetary urges here and the
Wi Fi enabled canals house in the pipe in the heart of
Amsterdam in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and Silicon Valley. What's going on over there? For
scale? All right, because we have no idea what you said.
And Sex Action.
It's, that's why it's gonna it's gonna be one of those shows. For
some reason, whenever I talk or when I send something to you,
then you just, you're just not audible at all. Okay? But hey,
John, how you doing?
Wozniak? Once more wearables? I'm doing fine. How are you
doing?
I've been better. Do we have like a huge lag now all of a
sudden as well, just to add to all of the issues we've been
dealing with for the past? Do we or not? Yes. Okay. So let me
just while we're doing this, and for those of you who are just
tuning in, I am in Amsterdam, John is in in, in California in
northern Silicon Valley. And you'd think in 2014, it wouldn't
be that hard to just, you know, have a Skype call and, and have
a little chat. Uh, turns out is very difficult.
Intrigue, international intrigue.
So let's just see what the lag is. 543211. All right.
But how long is it?
Well, it's about a full second.
Why Wait, one second lag? They must have to step on your Yes.
sound reasonable. I'm gonna have to step on everything you do.
Yeah. Anyway, so for the past hour, we've been trying to set
everything up. And of course, we still want to deliver you the
best podcast in the universe. We always do try to do that. That's
right. And so the the Skype connection has just been
horrible. The router here for some reason, one machine can
talk to the other. And now I believe, John, you have your
Comcast router set up with a giant fan on it to cool it down
because this as a little extra bonus. Yes.
As a matter of fact, is Motorola surfboard, which is what I've
got here is if it's less than a year old, and it's crapped out,
it overheats, and then the bandwidth goes from 52.5.
And when did this start happening?
This actually, this was actually a thing that began maybe two or
three weeks ago and actually back maybe before that, because
Comcast was telling me, I was having trouble with the modem.
And over the last couple of days, it's gotten so bad that
the modem will only work for about five minutes before it
drops. After you reset it and cool it off. I put into freezer
yesterday. And that didn't help everyone thought I was nuts when
I pulled it out.
What's that? So the the only downside of the downer is that
for some reason, Sonic net now this is this is always
interesting to see how the internet works. And I believe we
had the same thing when we were in, in Tokyo. Sonic net does not
have great routing or peering or I would say it's not peering
it's probably routing. But that may be associated with some
peering Yeah,
I would blame this less on Sonic net and more on AT and T they
piggyback on the a TNT lines to give us our connectivity. And
at&t probably does not have the same international routing
agreements that Comcast has. So when he wants you to leave the
country because at&t would love to gouge you for long distance
phone calls. As opposed to Comcast they don't care
but is something that has to have their own peering
arrangements once they roll off of the 18 T network that they
don't just piggyback on everything AT and T has that
doesn't make any sense. They're probably just using the ATM to
domestic network.
I don't know maybe they don't have good agreements I'll talk
to him about it and ask him what the deal is because it's it is
it's mediocre I mean, I ended things work in fine I'm looking
at the numbers with the speed very speed tests and it's just
the same as it's always been no difference.
Interesting. Well, I you know, who knows, but we've always seen
a difference overseas between Sonic net and Comcast. But now
we have this very annoying this it's just the drop out what's
not even the lag is one thing but you talk and then it's like
you'll say a word. So the word will be house boat, and they'll
come through like this house boat, boat, just like like,
somewhere the internet knows I'd like to hold on to donate no to
the internet decides to hold on to that word and not just give
it to me.
I think because of the lag, we should say over
10 four good, buddy. Let's try that over.
Okay.
My goodness, anyway. And let me just hit record. I'm kidding.
I'm kidding. I've been recording. Yeah, I'd hope the
problem is is like,
be with it. It's possible. So your How was your trip over?
What was the like, working with TSA, you might as well discuss
this, and I won't have to interrupt. Good.
Well, let me see TSA was even better than the last time of
course, now that I'm a trusted traveler, a trusted citizen of
the system. And this time, I was flying on Delta to Atlanta from
Austin's Bergstrom airport. And the so again, you're going
through the the trusted traveler or TSA PreCheck line is, is
better, it is actually better than pre 911 travel. And I
looked John, I saw as I went through the metal detector, and
I left my again and left my belt on and the only thing I had to
put into my bag was my money clip and keys. Everything else
that could keep on which is always there always yelling, you
know, take that off and in the normal lines. And I And of
course, I didn't go off. I did it. You know what we had agreed
for me to do, right?
Yeah, you're going to check it out. See if the things turned
on. I touched the side, it did not go off. Okay, then it's not
turned on.
I turned around and waiting for my bags to come through. I see
three red lights on the right hand side indicating that it's
on, but no grid never went green. And that window at the
top is supposed to have numbers that show like not on that
display was not even on? I don't think it's on?
I think it's probably this is what they've done. Here's what
my theory is. They've decided that they've got broken
equipment. What are we going to do with this? We're going to
put it in the precheck line. That's a good idea. But they're
also friendly. They're nice to joking around.
Hey, Bill, Jim, what are we going to do with these friendly
guys? You guys are, you know what? You've been trained not to
be friendly. What's the deal? What's wrong with you guys?
Put those workers in the precheck line? Exactly. So
they're also the rejects? Obvious to reject? Yeah, they're
obvious reject. So they throw them into the precheck line.
Exactly. I'm in agreement with you there. But then so my bag
goes through. And of course now I have the bag. It's really
stuck. It's really stacked with my studio. I have the I think
I've got maybe more wires than normal. And the guy stops it and
he's doing the color change. You know, do you look at my bag?
What are you doing? What are you doing? John? Yeah, what are you
doing?
Always when you do that? They push that push button to make
some shit? Yeah,
let's not try to I try not to get fancy with the Skype
connection cuz I've no, it sounded like you were dying. I
had no idea I was gonna.
Yeah, well, you're not gonna be able to do much about it. If
that happens, no fancy sound effects. And today we're
changing the colors and you are going on orange
red. Yeah. And I'm looking at East and it's very obvious what
he's looking at. It's the microphone. And it's this is the
this is the Riyadh This is the rotor Procaster. And it has, you
know, it has some ridges on it. But yeah, doesn't have as a
unique sex toy like appearance. And he's looking at it. He's
looking at it. And I'm waiting. And again, these this is the
friendly crew. So I say that's my microphone. I'm talking
across the whole thing there right but he's on the other side
of the of the X ray machine. That's my microphone.
And what he should have said at the time was Hello, mom. And
people out there who get that we'll get that joke.
Yeah. We didn't know you would have expected don't talk to me
sir. Step away. But no, this is the friendly crew with the
broken equipment. And he says oh is what it is. Okay, have a nice
day. I'm telling this is better. Do you remember pre 911 When you
had like those overweight women who were standing around just
like ooh, they like they really did not care at all. At least
that was the way it was at Newark Airport, a bunch of
overweight on disinterested women and you just had an X
whether the heck something you know now they don't care. They
don't care. Not actually interested in protecting
anybody, and they're friendly about it. So I'd say it's a step
up, and it's better. And once again, prove that in America. As
long as you have money. You can be you can live like an
American. If you have $140 and time to go and do your pre check
interview, which is bogus, but it takes a day, then you can go
back to being an American and feeling free in your own
country. So it just takes money. That's all you if you have no
money, you might as well get out
this is where I'm hoping you're still in on the program with me.
Now. Let's take a look. Yeah, disconnected. It's going to be
one of those shows. When you go let's see what happens if we can
get him back. Oh, looks like I may have just maybe everything
disconnected now. I don't see the chat room working anymore.
Okay. Looks like looks like my entire connection died here. Oh,
that would make sense, wouldn't it? Okay.
You know, you're there. Yeah. I think that I think it's on my
end.
What's on your end?
The problem?
Yeah, I would think so. You're the only variable here.
Yeah. Okay. Good. Good point. Straight I know,
you always like to blame me for these things. But
oh, no, no, no, I'm not trying to blame you at all. I'm just
trying to trying to make it work. So did you hear the final
bit of that? Or the we
know? Now you said, you said something about them being nice.
And then you do what you were you finished off was where the
microphone? The guest says, oh, yeah, that makes sense. And then
and then that part then after that, I've kind of missed it.
Okay.
Well, I was saying that it's, it's actually it's kind of nice
that it proves that if you have money in America, you can be a
true American, you need $140 to go take this stupid, bogus live
interview, which is nothing. And you have to have a day to take
off. And then it's better than pre 911. Because you have the
same. It's exactly the same as it used to be except these
aren't the use of honestly, it was overweight women,
disinterested overweight women who have been at Newark Airport,
who would not give a crap just like I put your kids in here
redneck.
And now you're flying out at that you are flying out of
Atlanta. I'm giving you
my pre 911 experiences. Oh, okay. So pre 911 at Newark
Airport where I used to fly disinterested overweight women
who just be there. And now at least you have engaged happy
people who are who are totally faking it. They don't care. And
all you need to know, all you need is money. In my care, they
don't care. They do not not for a second care. But he
they cared enough to ask you about the microphone, they
thought was a dildo? No, oh, no.
But that's all I'm saying. They're nice. Unlike the
disinterested women, pre 911. These are dudes and women and
they're all the nice people and they're engaged and they're
happy and they're smiling. It must be I think it's I think
you're wrong. I think it's it's a it's a it's a perk, it's a
benefit. You know, if you if you've done something good then
you get to go to rechecks.
Okay, let's line up in order of being surely one of my things
Yeah, boss, but you're smiling too much.
What am I thinking? I'm so silly. Yeah,
give me a break.
Okay, so then I'm on the other side. And I bumped into Eric,
the constitutional lawyer who's on his way to Boise, Idaho for a
case. And, and you know, I'm a big fan of Eric and he's the guy
that one day is going to take me to the Supreme Court and I can
carry a suitcase.
Oh, hold on a second. You bumped into him by accident? Yes. Okay.
This is in Austin, not Atlanta. I'm still in Austin. Okay. Not
in Atlanta. I transferred in Atlanta. Okay. Okay. So we have
at the time each other and, and we're talking and then he said,
I'm worried. So what are you worried about? Well, you know,
ISIS coming in America and killing. No, and this is what I
realized that, Eric, I know he's listening. He listens to a show
when he can typically when he's flying actually I they're really
quite ever. So yeah, he's listened to one or two. So he
didn't have one ready to go. Of course. I said, Eric, I know you
don't listen to shop. I understand you're a busy guy.
You're a lawyer. You're out there fighting for the french
fry, manufacturer, whatever you're doing. We're against the
fact I don't know what you're doing. But you're not listening
to the show. Did you see this bogus video of the beheading?
No, I No, I don't have to see that. I'm not interested. And
that's when I realized, ah, this is so good. We are they all you
need is just, it's almost like the Benghazi thing. You just
need a video that actually, you could have stick figures. Okay,
you can have a whiteboard with stick figures, and say, This is
the beheading video, and then get rid of it and then have
Twitter say, Oh, we're even lively. Oh, we're not going to
show any more beheading videos. And then you just can't you just
you just keep referring to it. And then no one ever goes to
look and see. Taxi Eric here in another Eric and coincidentally,
in in Amsterdam, he's like, Ah, man, you know, because now Oh,
yes, here in Amsterdam. We have you ready for it? The polder G
Hadees. Oh, yeah, baby, the polder hater? Yes, you know, you
know, the polder is Yeah. Like a poltergeist though that's
Poulter, upholder. A polder is is a the Netherlands is 70%
reclaimed land when you reclaim the land. It's called a polder.
Okay. So now the ISIS fighters here who magically are somehow
leaving the country and going to join ISIS are called polder
Jihad ease and it gets better, because Foley's guard was one of
these polar Jihad ease. I bet you hadn't heard that news
hedger.
I thought he was a Brit.
No, no, that's the guy who cut his head off.
Which sawed it off? Let's get that straight.
Abu Obeida El, my grandma was the alias of the Dutch jihadi
who had who was running the jail that contained Jim Foley, and
other journalists. Now it's just localized John. It's just it's
just a local story. You won't read this anywhere but here. And
I think it would be reasonable to expect somewhere in some US
reporting for someone to say oh, yeah, we know another guy. Not
only do we have jihad, John from the UK, I have a we knew the
Dutch guy. So again, Eric's one of these guys. Did you see this
video? This Bogota, Vietnam. I don't want to look at that. I'm
whatever you think I'm a sicko.
So you're right. This is great form of propaganda. Let's play a
couple of clips here. I've got this a Department of Defense guy
who came on to some thing called the steamboat Institute. And
he's ex Bush guy who is not even important enough to be other
than a deputy assistant to formative offense, the Secretary
of Defense or something along those lines. And he comes on
with all this hairy, scary stuff. And I just want to play I
got some short clips are played DoD psycho one. So we know. So
you can catch up with what's going on
that there with this ISIS group that's involved in Iraq and
Syria, that there are more terrorists in any one place at
any one time than we've ever seen. And that includes pre 911
Afghanistan. And this is frightening stuff. Yeah. As you
know, they've taken a large swath of land. That includes, as
Frank mentioned, Iraq and Syria and established a Muslim state
Akali fit, led by a Khalif. And they've left if you're following
the news, even before this tragic death of this American
journalists, they left the trail of death, destruction and
depravity in their wake. These guys are so bad that al Qaeda
has disavowed them.
The audience should have said How bad are they? That would
have been? Okay. Oh, bad, are they? Now this carrier this?
This, by the way? This? This is the Ongoing mean, these guys
their show bad that even al Qaeda didn't want them? I mean,
it turns out who would have ever thought let's just let's put it
on our thinking caps. doobies. Who would have ever thought that
al Qaeda had a conscience? I had no idea. I had no idea that they
did somewhere al Qaeda woke up. And I think that should be a
point of discussion. I would like to know where at Al Qaeda
headquarters and of course, you know, al Qaeda, clearly they had
some meetings on power. It was a conference call, maybe a video
conference call. Maybe it was a Google Hangout. out, and they
all said, Yeah, Muhammad is document here. Mohammed Mohammed
Mohammed. Can you hear me on Skype? Muhammad? Muhammad? Yes,
Muhammad. He said Ahmed here. I mean, why did you ask me that
Muhammad? Who am I? Anyway? I'm
Achmed. I'm Muhammad. Ahmed. Yes, man.
The Skype is really sucking today. I don't want by.
And screw those guys are taking all our headlines. What are we
gonna do about it? We have
to say we can't be with him. Why am I German? I'm not I'm all of
a sudden German. Oh, kinda.
Well, most of the Germans are al Qaeda. I will still go on. Do
we'll go back to this discussion. But let's finish
with DoD psycho. Two.
This is the al Qaeda that flew planes into buildings in New
York City, and in Washington, DC.
Even those guys can believe these ISIS these these guys
just, I mean, I mean, it was one thing to fly jets into in the
World Trade Center, you know, and I mean, but these guys were
talking about
almost 13 years ago. That's how bad this group is. And it has
America in its crosshairs.
In its crosshairs
reported recently and sorry, I couldn't resist people have been
talking about for quite some time that ISIS has been has
training camps in Iraq with monkey bars, no Syria, probably
more Syria. Their headquarters are
women. They train in the pickup truck where they run and jump in
the pickup truck. And then they each pick a side and I've seen
in a training camp I've seen their capital is
in Raka is in Syria, northern Syria. And they have been
establishing training camps not only to teach the terrorists,
dark arts to those who will come and fight the Syrian army.
The terrorist dark arts are you writing this down, John, because
it's very dark arts rocky
to Iraqi government, but also to train foreign fighters to return
to their native lands to undertake acts of terror at some
point. And then just recently, I think about a week ago
now well, who is the audience for this?
dorks a bunch of looks like Freddie. Oh, women. This is a
steamboat is two fretting old women, a bunch of retired guys,
VFW and maybe some military
they did? I don't know. Did they pay an entrance fee like a cover
like I overcharged
that they paid pay to listen to these idiots to get a Janice
Gatch writing the public.
And unnamed the US intelligence official, I believe this article
is in Washington Post least when I saw there may have been some
others well said that they believe ISIS is trying to
establish cells in Europe. they undertake terrorist attacks and
potentially the United States. So if you hear what the US
government is saying publicly about this, you can imagine
there's probably a lot of other stuff they're not talking about
because of sensitive intelligence sources and
methods.
Can I just slip into
intelligence sources and methods?
Don't Ask Don't ask about that. Senator Barrasso. He's a
Republican. I'm not sure where he's from must be from the
south. Maybe not Bourassa. Do you know where he's from?
Doesn't matter I give him up. He has statistics about the
Europeans you see that we have to you have to understand and
it's working over here. Every the headlines of papers I got on
the airplane John, I've got the telegraph The Telegraph and I
got the forks chromed that's kind of two ends of the
newspaper spectrum one is like really populous and full of
crap. And the other one is really intense. And full of
crap.
JOHN BARRASSO Republican from Wyoming, Wyoming. There you go.
And it's it's filled with them. They we have the hate Imams
here, the hate Imams. This hate Imam. It preaches hate. And then
he preaches hate and creates the polar Jihad ease and the polar
Geheimnis hate the Jews and the hate Imams hate the Jews. And
the Jews are all afraid this is quite unique to the Netherlands,
of course, because we have this history. And it's very easy to
rile people up and say we've got no the Jews and then
Bancroft and what Hanban Bancroft, isn't she the one that
was hiding in the thing, right? And they can have cultural
reference. Yes. So we have we have to he has percentages of
people who support ISIS. And of course, ISIS is doing pro ISIS
demonstrations here in the Netherlands. And they have to be
able to do that because it's their freedom of speech. You see
that we can't stop them. Well, we can have a conversation with
them, but we can't stop them because of their freedom of
speech. This place
and I think, yes,
and Frank, that is not bankrupt.
Site. Yes,
I did. It's very good. So everyone is very uptight. And
you can see the people walking here. They are zombified. wide
and they are so afraid of everything that they are just
pretending like nothing is wrong. Could you know and I can,
and I can see it, I can feel it. I feel it on everything. And
people just, you know, they just the papers are filled with it so
you have just I feel so bad for these people I really do. Um, so
he
should feel bad for free should feel bad for the American
military before you finish your thing. I do want to just throw
in the DoD psycho clip three, which is a shorty, which I think
summarizes everything that we can continue.
Okay, I was I don't have a three I have a psycho kicker. Yeah.
That doesn't doesn't say three.
You're right.
ISIS has said I mean, has said they plan to raise alkaitis flag
over the White House. I think we have to take them at their word
for the mistake not
ye of little faith. Raise it over. All right. All right. Let
me play a couple of ISIS scary clips here. From the EU
perspective, new
approval. ISIS has plans to commit terrorism and the plans
are global.
The global This is Greta, this is Fox is your Fox News Agency.
Ladies and gentlemen. ISIS has the plans are
global, the United States, the United Kingdom and France. And
that's just for starters.
Where's the Netherlands? Hello, we want Russia
1000 foreign fighters from at least 50 countries all 50 John,
count them 50 countries fighting for that very barbaric terrorist
group, very barbaric in Syria. The majority of them are for
ISIS. And the scariest part of
all scary is now listen to her. Listen to her cadence. She's
like she's talking to Romper Room. And this, the scariest
part of all is part of roll back a little bit more. This is so
good
screw in Syria. The majority of them are for ISIS and the
scariest part of all, did you hear that?
Yes, I did and frightened now
scary is the scariest part of all
terrorist groups in Syria. The majority of them are for ISIS.
And the scariest part of all, is right here in America, at least
140 of those jihadists are Americans. That means they have
American passports, the State Department releasing disturbing
new numbers just one day after news and an American was killed
while fighting for ISIS in Syria.
Oh, man, let me go. Let me go to morasso for a second. You gotta
hear this guy with his percentages.
What do you find 16% of a population to support ISIS
16% 16% of the French support ISIS, not 15, not 17 16%. It's
very disturbing, very distressing. I've seen the poll
results. You know, they say that some of these people it's tends
to be younger, and those who are immigrants from Muslim countries
who are living in France, that's a huge concern. And it shows me
that the threat to the United States is even greater,
especially when you see it was a British citizen.
Hold on a second. The logic, just what I'm going to actually
be discussing mostly on this show today, besides the
dropouts, the logic, the logical inconsistencies ended and the
leaps of faith are outrageous. Why would it be greater in a
million years than it would be in France, where you have a huge
dis kind of displaced Muslim immigrant population? Tell me
I'm asking you, oh, I wouldn't be greater in the United States.
It
makes no sense whatsoever. He is making it up on the spot. And
the best part, these numbers come from the Oh, so respected
pew polling agency. Everybody is all in on this. And I'm going to
say upfront, yes, someone may die somewhere from something.
But you people are being terrorized by your leaders, your
elected officials, your unelected officials, and it is
disgusting to see what is happening here. And people who
are not on top who do not pay attention, who do not do one
little bit of you don't have to do research. If someone says
hey, they beheaded this guy, there's a video, go look at the
video. You cannot leave this up to chance anymore. You are being
duped and terrorized duped
by immigrants from Muslim countries who are living in
France is a huge concern. And it shows me that the threat to the
United States is even greater, especially when you say it was a
British citizen who beheaded James Foley, that savage act and
you know that was called a message to America when they
sent the video
now, I'm not even going to I'm not going to dignify that entire
paragraph with anything. It was this is
Senator Barrasso UK looking at the numbers Germany has 2% 2%
only 2% but UK 7% Gaza 13%. It shows that this group ISIS which
we know is blood thirsty, they blood their
hands Hey, Achmed got some blood. I'm thirsty. I'm here.
I've got some fresh blood. We drink the blood. I need some
blood for a moment. Oh, ha, yes, we had ISIS, we are blood
thirsty are well
armed. They are dangerous people with deadly weapons. And I
believe they're coming from America. That's what they have
said. So they have folks from other countries supporting them,
some of our NATO allies, people you wouldn't think would be
friendly to them, which shows that the threat to the United
States is even greater. Okay,
I need to stop this for a second.
It shows us the threat is even I cannot believe this a
host, Senator
oming. Vote this idiot out.
Boris Johnson, Mayor of London, wrote an op ed, it's pretty much
all you have to do as mayor of London, you just eat, you drink
some ale. And you write, and you write a column from time to
time. And his solution, which and I think the people of London
will go for this. And it's going to be very funny when they wake
up one day, and they're not allowed to travel or they go
into a certain country, and you get arrested. And I have to read
some of this column. And then and then we need to talk about
the picture. So he says, let's assume he is indeed who he
sounds like another deluded British born jihadi. I'm afraid
I have listened on the telegraph website to the voice of the man
who claims to be the killer of James Foley. And there seems
little doubt that he grew up in this country, he was probably
born in our wonderful national health system. You know, the
school in our broadly excellent education system, he and his
family are very likely spent their lives like the rest of us,
cushioned by our welfare state. And he goes on and on and on.
But then he says, oh, and then even he talks about the 72
virgins. We are going to have to make up our minds very quickly
about this caliphate, and this deadly caliphate business, I
say, how we will respond to the interruption of a new and
hellish country on the map, and how we will deal with these
Brits who have gone off and fighting this name. These ISIL
wackos now control an area the size of Great Britain,
considerable oil reserves, a population of about 6 million,
some industry and some military capability said to be second in
the region only to Israel. I tell you why. So here's the Oh,
yeah, this is this is the life
of airplanes do they have?
You asked the question, I don't have to actually answer them
because otherwise it would slow down too much. He has some he
has some some ideas here as to what to do. Well, you need to be
far more effective in preventing British and other foreigners
from getting out there. And he says in parentheses, I'm
interested to see how many Belgians are there. Whatever
that non sequitur is, and the Turks need to shut that border.
We need to make it crystal clear that you will be arrested if you
go out to Syria or Iraq without good reason. I'm gonna reread
that for you without the silly accent. The Mayor of London says
we need to make it crystal clear that you will be arrested if you
go out to Syria or Iraq without good reason. For a crime. Yes,
sir. At present, the police are finding it very difficult to
stop people from simply flying out via Germany, crossing the
border doing the Gosling jihadi tourism. They're doing the
Gosling jihadi tourism,
why don't they put a stop to these tourist operations that
are setting up these tours coming back? The police era
tourism includes a boat ride.
A good pick up a ride with someone a boat
and get it right there pick up
include meal ready to eat.
This is one shot from
Uzi does anyone read this and not say to themselves? Is he
insane? The police, the police can and do interview the return
is but it's hard to press charges without evidence. Yes,
this is what we have in a state of law and order. Mr. Boris
Johnson. The law needs a swift and minor change. I will repeat
that the law needs a swift and minor change. So there is a
rebuttable presumption that all those visiting war areas without
notifying the authorities have done so for a terrorist purpose.
Write that down rebuttable presumption. This is pre crime.
And you laugh at it now because it's only for Syria and Iraq.
But they'll add some wine of that Germany has ADD Germany to
it. You go to Germany without a rebuttable presumption or with a
rebuttable presumption. You go to Germany without notifying the
authorities that you're going there. Then you were there as a
terrorist. Now John, go to this web page. I want you to take a
look at the picture that he has posted. This is the mayor of
London. It is ITM dot I am ready Yeah,
I was just getting up this Brosseau asshole.
Sorry. Yeah I'm sorry about this you're out Yeah, ITM dot I am
slash
right. T m dot i am slash,
w two one w y. Okay. And then you got the bid you got the
page.
No, I'm waiting for more letters. And that's
it. That's it hit Return
Okay,
now this is
all in place. This is
from the ISIL promotional video. Now I want you to take note,
take a look at this. Look at they're wearing. I'm not talking
white. I'm talking so white these gym shoes they're wearing
Yes, they were in brand new Nikes
in the desert. And by the way, they're all wet. No one is
wearing combat boots. Not a single I've been to the desert
on a Horse With No Name. I've been to Iraq, and I had boots.
And this is the same set. They're putting that Mars rover
on, man. This is bullcrap. Now look at look at these machine
guns I have in the air with a tripod sticking out. This is not
how any anyone who's been schooled at all in any type of
warfare carries their machine gun. These are actors. This is
bull crap. This is complete bull crap.
Well, you saw the thing I put in the newsletter. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
train everybody. Yeah, it
was exactly Hey, if you didn't
get the newsletter you missed out on these photos, which are
taken from RT a video that RT had, where they had a bunch of
these jokers standing on the corner with their flags and
banners. And then then they would just all be rolled and
then they all got down on their hands and knees to pray to
Allah. But the joke of it was because this is apparently done
by someone who doesn't even know anything. I mean, even I spotted
this. They're praying in every which direction. They're not all
pointing toward Mecca, which is the way you pray to Allah, you
always point in the same direction. There's iPhone apps
to show you which direction to pray. Drop down and pray any Oh,
which way
is also that thing called what is the sun? It's a pretty good
indication to
us that the iPhone app is what they use. Anyway.
But just look at this. This is and where are the where the 10s
of 1000s this is 15 Guys, an
Mg 3678 and 10 is
brand spanking new. They're wearing the you know, this is
central casting people you can laugh at me you can call me in a
hole you can shun me you can never listen to this program. I
am telling you this is fake. This picture posted by the
telegraph with the column of the Mayor of London is fake. And
these and these look at these trucks, these Toyota trucks that
got behind not not No muss, no dice. No mud, no dust. If you
cannot walk for 10 minutes in Iraq in this desert where they
are
without any that's dusty. Does anybody but me see product
placement going on here with this Toyota bullcrap count? No,
of course, in the videos that Dr. T was showing that truck was
backed up so the logo was clearly visible. Well, yeah.
Yeah, of course, not take like a Toyota in the desert.
That's part of our journey tourism package. This is, and we
actually we got a pretty good email about the beheading video.
Hold on a second. I want to read that. A couple of issues. Yes.
This is from I toast a morning Adam. John was listen to episode
646. Notice an error as you quoted at approximately two
hours and 16 minutes and 19 seconds. Thanks for the
approximation. They're not all wearing balaclavas as a
correction. You were likely intending to say balaclava.
Yeah, yes. I was making a joke, but it's okay. For those who
have been deployed, are you back?
13 minutes.
Was it really right on the money? Well, this
is a little 14 closer to 14. Okay. But it's I'm telling you
there's this is a just something they're doing. Yeah, they're
just basically cutting off the connection. It's okay, fine. You
have an email. Yes. Right. Okay.
This is about episode 646. Notice an error as you quoted
approximately 260 19 They're not all wearing balaclavas. And yes,
it was a joke, of course balaclava. flies and bees,
balaclavas for those who have been deployed to the Middle
East. They will also recognize this as a shim OG a shim OG or a
Coffea, which is a versatile and culturally significant
headdress. There are specific ways is a ship show mug can be
worn Most often it is tied as the following clip will show and
is a clip in the video you don't have to look at. If you go to
the show notes, you can check it out. Interestingly enough, that
Jihadi John the British guy with the balaclava on appears to have
tied it in the British shs fashion and not in the ISIS not
very good catch. Very good catch,
catch. So now Can I point something Can I mention one
other thing just while you've got this picture of the Boris
Johnson's group Yep. You've been in the this area of the world
2004
When it was a war Yes, I've been there Yes.
And we're right in the middle of summer which would be very hot
in that area. And by very hot I mean 140 Let's take a look at
these guys wearing all black let's
take a look at the current Tim per
day eyes are gonna wear all black and these conditions with
a with a big furry thing over their head. This is bull crap
this video is from Iraq's Nineveh province. So let me see
what the current temperature is current temperature in a
province let's see in the low John it's only 42 degrees
centigrade well that's 108
Yes underneath and they're wearing all black. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah make sense? This is wearing all black with a black mask this
is
completely bogus and and you are being you're just being ripped
off your beat everyone's being ripped out. Let's listen to more
of this burrows Barrasso guy. I keep saying bro so bras Oh, he's
just it's what this is a United States senator what not to be
flip. But I mean, I didn't mean I'll kind of threw ISIS out this
spring because they were too violent. I mean, do you know how
bad you have to be they evolved I just think you're too violent
and too awful
not know why don't you look into that and let me know and tell me
when the how this meeting went? Did they who made this up? Where
is the press release from al Qaeda saying these guys are so
bad? Oh no, we can't have that. Look at them. They want to wear
black in 108 degree weather with with beautifully pristine white
Nikes we can't have that these guys are bad and they
control a huge area almost for lots of money. Lots and lots of
oil can that they have weapons as well they have a manpower
they've got Toyota's they've got Yodas just pristine white Nikes
all of those things that control an area larger than the state of
Indiana and want to continue to grow and I think it's incumbent
now on the president of the investment
that's such a great reference is anyone except people in Indiana
know how big that is?
Well if you notice Boris Johnson says the size of Great Britain
so that everyone uses local reference
so he's from this guy's from Wyoming
well, they're gonna get to the size of Wyoming eventually right
an area larger than the state of Indiana and want to continue to
bless this Can we just take a look at the size of the state of
Indiana
like can we oh maybe it's a way of disparaging Indiana to
possibly Indiana
and Great Britain. Can we overlay those to just see can we
compare map fight that's what I want you go to map fight
Alright, map fight.
I think map fight fight goes off and it gives you the sizes Yeah,
yeah, I never did this.
Yeah, so we can do Great Britain. Let me see if I can for
UK maybe it'll just have UK. I think it's only countries. Ah,
that's bummer. No, no, it is. Oh, no, you can do it. Okay, so
United Kingdom Where's its map? fight.appspot.com this will be
worth it. I think
not in map fight that apps spot. Yes. Well, I don't know why.
This wouldn't be worth it.
Okay, so Indiana. Can I find Indiana Yes, I have Indiana. And
now I need to
they won't have ISIL in there.
No, we need Great Britain.
Great Britain was Great Britain.
They don't have Great Britain. I see it got the cast. Here we go.
Here we go. And we're comparing this is going to be very good.
This is going to be interesting. Oh please not even close.
Oh, these guys are making it up. Indiana has is
a third of Great Britain.
Yeah, but yeah, he said here Indiana
is 0.39 times as big as the United Kingdom. Well, I'm sorry
about that.
I believe by the way and I believe the Indiana I believe
the Indiana and Indiana analogy is closer because Great Britain
is a lot of land. That is actually pretty big. Let's I
mean it's not monsters. Let's move on Texas.
Let's move on. First of all,
I gotta check Texas check rollin I
think it's incumbent now on the As in in the United States as
Commander in Chief, to show leadership to come forward and
express to the American people articulate the threat that we as
Americans face and what he's going to do in a comprehensive
way to deal with this direct threat we face. Okay, so what is
your on Senate Foreign Relations Committee? I know that Senator
keys on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he's not
just some schmuck
and said that this should be debated on Capitol Hill. He's a
Democrat. So has the has the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee had any sort of contact with the president or
even begin discussing this at all? I mean, is he just speaking
with his military leadership? I think the President is speaking
with his military leadership has not come to Congress at all. I
don't think you'll let Congress off the hook. Congress wouldn't
be able to and have to stand up because this is the way that you
interface with, with voters at home, but the President need it.
I'm
tired of him. So he's just a complete a hole. Let's just
listen to another senator. Okay. Why not? Let's which one? How
about Senator Bob Corker. Oh Corker, where's he from? Doesn't
matter. We
know that you've been pushing for a coordinated us effort to
go after ISIS in both Iraq and Syria. In fact, you've talked
about arming Syrian opposition forces for more than a year. And
just yesterday, you called ISIS a demonic group of people that
needs to be dealt with dealt with you don't think US troops
will be sent in so this by
the way for the rest of the world, Tennessee, Tennessee, for
the rest of the world, Americans don't even know this. This is
how you sell death and destruction to the American
people.
This is another Republican I might Yes. Oh, yeah. This is how
we do it.
We we go on television and we tell people first we sit we do
some bull crap thing happens. That people die every single day
in the all kinds of horrible and Saudi Arabia has decapitated
that beheaded. I'm sorry, 20 people in the past month alone
doesn't matter. And then we said, we use this, we hype it
up, we make it crazy. We make up all these statistics make things
up. And then we say we've got to go and we got to go take care of
business with a steely, cold hard look. We gotta go kill some
people. Are they brown? Do they live in the sand?
Let me start here. What should Congress's role be? And what do
you want Congress's role to be in this decision by
the President? Well, guys, we should certainly authorize this.
I know the President has been sending overthrew the War Powers
Act. Notifications, very interesting.
So he is saying we should certainly authorize this. But
there's a little little gotcha here. These guys, Senate and
Congress, they want the power, they want to power because we
need to hook up our buddies we need this is money. Cash Money,
we gotta we gotta, we gotta get the whole military industrial
complex rolling, it doesn't get any better. We're now going to
create funds for the military industrial complex, which is
just a word, but it's Lockheed. It's Raytheon. It's the people
who make the weaponry. And we're going to give this to other
brown people who are gonna go kill other brown people. This is
this is perfect. Not a single white or black American soldier
has to die. And we still make all the money. And we look like
heroes, because we stopped the horrible guys who are kind of
kicked out. If you don't see the scam before your eyes. This is
not clear
relative to specific excursions. It's been interesting to watch.
And what that does Chuck is it gives him 60 days of activity
without coming back to Congress. But this is going to have to be
something far more coordinated is going to obviously need to
take place in Iraq and in Syria.
Oh, in Iraq and Syria. It's not just in Syria, we got to get to
Iraq and Syria to places obviously, Chuck or to be
effective.
They have not yet shared with us what their plans are. I've
checked in several times over the last several days and
unusually. I haven't heard back one of the things they could try
to do check is to use the 2001
A your math Well, author authorized use of military force
to Afghanistan, it's a 60 word authorization,
that how good and how great is America with 60 words, we can
come and kill you. 60 words very
broad. I hope that is not what they will do a whole word they
will instead do is come to Congress and ask for a new
authorization or a new ad that has evolved over time. We ask if
ISIL even comes under the mat and the mandate that they were
given and
the lawyers and now coming out. They're all lawyers, hey, we
don't think you need a new man that you need to get need to
come to us on they
wouldn't answer the question. So again, look for the American
people say, look, Congress should weigh in Congress should
be a part of this Congress should own whatever doing
military so
exasol You need a Congress should own this we should be own
Morning this money that's going out there. Let's bring in our
old friend aihole. extraordinaire, Lindsey Graham
and Senator Graham, I am trying to kind of zoom kind of hone in
on what is the immediate threat to the homeland? Because there
are a number of people saying, Oh, certainly not an immediate
threat has to be dealt with. It's a threat to the rehab, but
it's not an immediate threat.
Candy Crowley Do you like life? Are you not medically and
mentally, altogether with this question to us?
Well, I would argue that the intel that we've been provided
in Congress is that there are hundreds of American citizens
holding us passports, their European citizens going into the
fight that can penetrate America by having European us passports.
Just let's just review for a second first, he is now he is
going against the what the Pentagon says and he is saying
we in Congress have better intelligence than the Pentagon.
Okay.
A lot of Jihadist flocked to the area.
They flocked because, you know, jihad is fluc. They've expressed
the will
to the homeland as part of their agendas to drive us out of the
mid 80s.
That's that they have expressed the will to hit the homeland.
Did they have the capability hit the home line? Home
line home run home? What something like that? I don't
care. Ability
land? I would say yes. Yeah. It's about time now to assume
the worst about these guys.
It's about John, it's about time you assume the worst about these
guys. I tell you, it's the worst. Hello. Do declare. I
think it's time for us to assume the worst about these jihad is
they have their tourism. They're over there. They've got all the
capabilities. I think they will be hitting the homeland anytime
soon. Would you disagree with me? Miss Crowley, would you like
to take that? What do you think that you be the one to have that
on your conscience rather than
under estimating them? They're not the JV team anymore. They're
the most prominent terrorist organization in the world.
I repeat, do you want this on your day? Hold
on a second. Yeah, he's that he said, You know what he's
referring to doing a basketball reference or a football
reference. And he's saying they're not the JV team Junior
Varsity,
that's what the President said. That's why he's bringing that
up.
Did he say Jay D.
Oak, not. Let me listen one more time at the JV team. And I think
he is saying the JD team is not okay. Can't be. They can't be.
It's muddy. All right, let's listen
about these guys rather than under estimating them. They're
not the JV team anymore. Sounds
like gee, I don't know I'm on the fence. The benefits
are they're the most prominent terrorist organization in the
world, but they're not the only one. They're in competition with
the other jihadist groups. And the gold medal will be awarded
to the group
item. Wait a minute, wait a minute. It is the jehadi
Olympics all of a sudden, almost like I got it. The door just
opened a gold medal.
Yeah, that day, you can't get out of the
whoops, 13 minutes.
To get in there. We're going to crap out in a minute. Golden J.
Hill. Jihad is gold metal. All right. So he can't get away from
these. You got to start playing these boneheads you got to play
I got the Mike Rogers clip. I have Mike Rogers. He's got a
little meal. And let me finish
this and we finished this thing. It's still going on. He has
another 20 seconds and then the big payoff
is coming. Okay, I'm listening.
I'm telling you, you need to listen to my friend, Lindsey
Graham, that all
will be awarded to the group that can hit America. They're
fighting for status with al Qaeda, al Qaeda in their Arabian
pronounced Peninsula. All of these guys are bidding for
future recruits, and status and the gold medal goes to the one
that can hit us here at home to those who underestimate this
threat and you do so at America's peril.
That's right. You do if you underestimate them, you do so at
America's peril. You fools. Which rod Do you have the I have
a Rogers clip tuba will play yours. Oh, yeah, we have the
same one. Let me see yours is 39 seconds. Perfect. Here comes
identifed Sunday
on NBC. The British ambassador to the US Peter Westmacott Hello
said investigators are close to identifying the Kurdish accented
militants in the video Lily also acknowledged that some five one
Britons join the Islamic State you do have Chair of the House
Intelligence Committee, Republican Mike Rogers,
Westerners in the group to pose a mortal threat. And
one of the problems is it's gone unabated for nearly two years
and that draws people from, from Britain to across Europe, even
the United States to go and join the fight. They are one plane
ticket away from us shores, and that's why we're so concerned
about it.
Okay, take it away.
All right. All right. Yes, this is, this is terrorism. Okay,
what these people are doing now? Of course, we are pretty sure I
have I have, I think I have the kind of a clip for you that
you're going to love. And we are pretty convinced that this is a
bogus operation. It is. Whoever came up with this. It's pretty
good. You have all raised all of it in the I'm sorry, your it is
great. If all these things can't believe we're complimenting
people on this.
Well, we have to give credit where credit is
this, this, our children? Maybe our children's children will
learn that this was great. This was a huge scam. Great. And it's
so well executed. This is like the Kristallnacht, you know, all
this stuff is these all these great scams. And we have these
actors, and this is clearly run. It's a CIA saps, there's a
there's all kinds of intelligence running around. And
then the PR almost writes itself. You just have some kooky
video, which could have been made years ago. And then you
show it and then you just everyone just says, oh, it's
horrible. And half of the people on television haven't even seen
this video. They're all just repeating themselves. It's one
big echo chamber cluster F and then we have NPR NPR national
treasure here in the United States. This is the highbrow
intelligencia a elite radio network. And imagine someone
calling in to a and this is from NPR is on point I'll just play
it Mohammed is calling Hi Muhammad you're on the air. Hey,
Hey Tom. How you doing? I'm okay.
This is like a proxy war. Why do you think Saudi Arabia Qatar all
those United State government before they because they created
Okay, let's just let me set that it's a little hard to
understand. You have to get into his cadence. Muhammad is calling
into NPR Muhammad. And he's saying this is a proxy war This
is bullcrap. This is created the Qatari is the Saudis the CIA
This is bullcrap. He is now rolling. This is Muhammad. And
he's rolling out a clear and no agenda. Analysis. Are you still
there? John?
Y'all Yeah, we got another 1112 minutes Okay, good.
Damn cancer. From where I sit quarter right there three blocks
from my house.
Wait a minute. The ice is headquarters is three blocks
from Bahamas house
in Syria in Raqqa. Syria. Your house is three blocks from ISIS
headquarters. So what does what have you learned? What?
What have you learned? Did you got did you bring him some
cookies? What did you like? I'm going to say by the way, well,
you tell me what your analysis of this call and I'm going to
shut up and play right there three
blocks from my house
in Syria in Raqqa. Syria. Your house is three blocks from ISIS
headquarters. So what does what have you learned? What can we
Yes Oh, yes. Okay. Yes.
That is right there. We need to exactly we need to do something
because it's an absolutely loaded. So for this whole time,
the support access to CIA, Saudi Arabia, Israel, they're all
behind ISIS. Now you hear what's
happening here. Someone somewhere is either freaking out
or maybe something else is happening but he just implicated
Saudi Arabia Qatar, the Israelis America ever there they've
created ISIS This is he's saying this is bogus to
create a proxy war to get you in to symbolize your act. And then
now it's come back and bite them in the butt it's like oh my god.
What do you do? That's what they did. They created a monster
so what about now Muhammad What do you recommend?
This is your American policy now what do you recommend Muhammad
recommends we
need to take them out we need to attack them in every area I
tried all the locations where they are James Foley I told him
what he was the whole area should have been taken out but
the US government refused to do anything and convenient because
coming back to the surface like oh my god behind something all
the equipment and machinery that I should get for the Turkish
border border they can and they can millions of dollars from
Saudi Arabia
I believe this guy is speaking the Absolute Truth everything is
being shuttled right down from from Turkey Yeah, that's the
supply getting million
dollars headquarters are we know that we already know is it
quarter whatever. three doors
down from Muhammad Are you kidding me back daddy hanging
out there,
roll into place and take all the bosses but now this is in Omaha
I appreciate your call Muhammad whose home house three blocks he
says from ISIS headquarters in rocket in Syria. We're
back announcer that was pretty good. Hey, man. Thanks for
calling man. Hey, Hey Muhammad
Muhammad in in Omaha I appreciate your call Muhammad
whose home house three blocks he says from ISIS headquarters in
rocket in Syria where Al Baghdadi and others were. Let me
go to Dubai again and Ali Canary. What about this idea
that the CIA and Saudis and others supported ISIS against
Iran against Syria? They created this monster. Does that sound
credible to you? And can we now turn that around? Respectfully,
I think Muhammad is in Washington for many Hollywood
movies. Yeah, it's not quite that simple. There you go.
Legally speaking and operationally speaking.
You go just as crazy I'm surprised it didn't say
conspiracy theorists. That's Miss they missed out on that
one. So this is what you do you just throw it on NPR and Oh,
some coke, honey. Honey, I was driving home and I can't believe
that there was some cookies cover like a Muhammad it was
calling from Omaha but he had it's like oh, like um, the three
doors down from Baghdad a it's like you believe this cooking us
there beheading people, and they have these these cooks are
calling and must be Republicans. Must be Republicans. I do want
to remind everybody that Ben Rhodes, who is the White House's
think he's the deputy Security National Security Adviser. I
want to replay that these are the guys that know Right. Ben
Rhodes and he's moving up. He's um, he's the big man on campus.
Ben Rhodes is he's moving up. People are talking about him.
He's moving up to a spot in somewhere. They analyze his
video which we had no agenda did, and which interestingly
enough, pretty much all UK based news organizations are now
saying, Well, this video was fake. But they, they they cut
his head off after the video. This is the this is the
brilliant analysis after it was so obvious that even the British
intelligence or the SAF guys, or or the Blair Witch Project,
people whoever made this video, this bogus video where you don't
see blood, you don't see anything being cut off. It's so
obvious. It's fake that now that just saying well, yeah, that was
a propaganda video, but they did actually cut his head off later
as that and no questioning. Okay,
imagine the meeting for this one.
Now, this is the last time we let British intelligence take
care of this crap. That's what we're doing.
It's like Who did you subcontract to? Yeah, for this
video, you idiots. We went we didn't meet we had a budget.
Yeah. Where did the budget go? After an actual beheading? You
had one guy standing there and one of our local actors? Yeah.
Against a green screen with a Sharpie.
Exactly. So here's Ben rows of the American intelligence. Okay,
this is the guy who reports directly to the president. He is
a conduit between the intelligence community and the
White House about the validity of this video.
CIA Deputy Director Mike Morel said Jim fully dead quote, this
is ISIS its first terrorist attack against the United
States. Do you agree with that assessment of that attack
against the United States?
Well, absolutely. When you see somebody killed in such a
horrific way that represents a terrorist attack that represents
a terrorist attack against our country and against an American
citizen. And I think all of us have the fully family in our
thoughts and prayers. The fact of the matter is that we've
actually seen mattering ISIL seek to advance to close to our
facilities, certainly for our own comfort. And so the
President's decision to take military action a number of
weeks ago, was that a direct concern that if they were able
to get into Erbil, that they could pose a threat to our
personnel and our consulate there. So we have seen them
posing a threat to our interests in the region, to our personnel
and facilities in the region. And clearly, the brutal
execution of Jim Foley presented an affront and attack not just
on him, but he's an American. And we see that as an attack on
our country, one of one of our owners killed like that.
The so hidden, of course, he's not going to be ashamed of
himself, but he should be for just lying, just blatantly
lying. The he's saying that this video is clearly a brutal
attack. It's a terrorist attack against America. He is
validating this, this high school not even junior high
school level, media, media social sciences project. It is
it's insulting to media professionals. You look at
what's being done like I watched the Video Music Awards, and I
saw the Beyonce 15 minutes of Beyonce which was some of the
best performance of Ever seen the combination of singing
talent dancing talent, video town? Get those guys get anybody
but whoever did this, and for the the White House to stand
there and to and to justify this is true. We thought it was funny
with it with a stupid Benghazi video with the Muslim that I
mean, that wasn't even a movie. There was a movie. We watched
that we played some of the the soundtrack.
Yeah, no, it was ridiculous. I
have, like flabbergasting. So I was watching
the news hour. And it was I don't know if it's the same show
that had Rogers on it. But but this was a guy, Peter Mansoor,
who is a professor now at Ohio State University. And he came on
the NewsHour and gave us the same litany of bowl crap, which
makes you wonder that Ohio State, which is always
considered a third rate, academic school, proven by
listen to this phony, he was Steve apparently worked for
Petraeus. And his highest achievement was Lieutenant
Colonel. And even though he's in the army for 20 or 30 years, and
then they followed up by a professor from Harvard, which is
again a school that is good. So the Harvard guy just the guy at
Harvard guy debunks all this and I think, I guarantee this
Harvard guys never going to be on again. So let's start with
who you want to start with Peter. Mansoor,
Army, Colonel Peter Mansoor, he was executive officer to General
David Petraeus in Iraq, during the surge in 2007, and eight,
he's now an associate professor of military history at The Ohio
State University, and Stephen Walters, Professor of
International Relations at Harvard University. He's written
extensively about security policy issues. Peter Mansur, let
me start with you. How do you define the threat and how urgent
is the need to act?
Well, ISIS is a group that's well funded, well armed, and has
1000s of fighters under its ranks. And more joining it every
day, is a threat to the region region, it can destabilize the
Middle East, from which we get most of our well in terms of the
global economy. And it can inject terrorism into Europe in
the United States, given that it has hundreds of fighters in its
ranks who hold Western passports. So this is a group
that is either
he forgot the going for the gold in the jihadi Olympics. He had
every single point. Right, except for that one.
Well, that's I think so. But I think it was ad libbed. I don't
think that's on the talking points checklist. Okay. Well,
all right. Good work. Give that man his paycheck. Yet, Wilson,
did you give us your W nine. Okay, perfect. You're good to
go. Thank you. Thank you. Now the professor from Harvard,
Steven Walter, how do you respond to that? How do you
define the threat? First? I think
there's no question isis is a bunch of very bad guys. But it's
primarily a threat to the people in the areas they control and
not a direct threat to the United States. It's a
predominantly Sunni group, which will not be able to expand into
non Sunni areas. And the potential terrorist threat
there, I think has been greatly exaggerated. There are lots of
groups around the world who would like to be able to go
after the United States, most of them fail. And in fact, the way
to deal with it is primarily with intelligence and
counterterrorism here at home.
I have what that's not good. I need to say here that we're
we're called in Holland, we called me to Noca. We're, we're
and fucking away here at these at these little, little details.
It matters not about Foley or this is it matters not. This is
about a big game. And the big game is to verbalize and all we
need now is the approval. We're not quite something has to
happen to tip to tip the scales. For some reason, maybe President
Obama is a good guy in this case, maybe he's he's actually
trying to slow everything. I know, doubtful. He's trying to
slow everything down. But Congress clearly wants the they
the purse strings belong with them. They would I think we
should we should do a real it'll be funny if they did a real
declaration of war against the Islamic State because let's face
it, they have a state you know, it's not just a crazy jihadi
thing anymore. Al Qaeda, you know, just the, an ideology. No,
it's a real state. So they know theoretically, they could do
something. What? Declare war against the Islamic Islamic
State, the cloeren declare
an actual war. And I think I'm put that in the red book for you
Islamic State, it's a state. It says dates the Islamic State
how hard it would be to wipe them out overnight. I don't
think it would be that difficult. 51st
I want to close this segment with something unless you are if
you have something else you want to talk about well,
I just want to drop one last thing in, which is we had the,
the DoD psycho, that it's what I call him. And he did and we had
it we couldn't get through this whole steamboat Institute
without bringing in some Iranian threat as part of Scarem
tactics. That will be an I thought that this was the this
was the real eye roller, as far as I'm concerned, which is the
DoD psycho in Iranian hit it this
of this of this material, it also has time to to perfect
delivery vehicles. In fact, US government publicly has not
moved off the fact that they said a few years ago that Iran
will have an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of
reaching United States by 2015. That's next year, they already
can put a satellite into space, working on this for a while. And
in fact, they can add
some more than and our buddy there can do Elon Musk probably
been helping the North Koreans do that as well, because they
followed Iran. And that capability. And all of you are
probably too young to remember. Because you've probably read an
E books or something like that Sputnik 1957. And went up when
the Soviets put that little satellite into space. I mean, we
were really, really unhappy about that it was a public
relations disaster for the West for the United States that the
Soviets had bested us. Oh, scientifically, and technically,
but in the bowels of the Pentagon, the dr. strange loves
there. Were really concerned, because they knew that if you
can put a satellite in the space of a significant payload, or
significant payload into space into orbit, you can put a
warhead anywhere on the Earth's surface.
Right? And then what did we do? We made a video of phony baloney
movie about landing on the moon.
Besides that, I'm sorry, why you'd go into that direction.
But my commentary about this is I'm going to ask you this
question. Okay. All right. Let's say Iran has an ICBM that can
strike us from a distance. Yes. And they send a nuke. They shoot
a new golf. And now Oh, the ICBM comes in and blows up by I don't
know, whatever it hits, probably. middle of nowhere,
Virginia. What would that what would that accomplish? Do you
think? Would we be scared to say, Oh, my God, whatever you
guys want, we would blow the entire country to smithereens.
We have 1000s and 1000s of missiles and bombs. Why would
you send a single lone missile flown over here, we'd probably
be able to blow it out of the sky anyway. Why would you do
that? What sense does it make?
Well, you're asking me these say I just wonder what sense it
makes? Well, you're asking me these questions. Like I'm some
kind of moron citizen who doesn't know that this is
ridiculous. So I can't answer it. Because it makes no sense.
It makes as much sense as Vladimir Putin deciding to blow
an airplane full of Dutch people and aids researchers out of the
sky. What sense does that make none of it makes sense. You are
being terrorized people terrorized. Terror terrorize.
We are here hashtag America near our hashtag target soon. Hashtag
Yeah, Claire.
That's actually the clip of the month. Well, I
had you told me you said you gotta I saw that. And I listened
to you. And that's exactly what
I'm here hashtag America near our hashtag target soon.
This shows you the idiocy of what's going on around us. That
particular clip to me, does hashtag America.
Now, there's something that we missed, but our producers caught
on the previous program. And this is this is really this is
just so incredibly good. Now, one of the things we did in the
in the previous episode, is we looked at this global Global
Post that the incredibly great just patriotic journalist Jim
Foley worked for. And it turns out, this is a total bull crap
outfit. And it is a an outgrowth of a foundation, which is
actually it's not a foundation. I went back and I found the they
had their website, according to what I could find from
archive.org Really didn't change until around the 13th of July,
I'm sorry, July ninth 2014. And before that, they had one page
up. So if you go to archive.org, and you go to the Ground Truth
project, foundation, Here is the mission statement on the
homepage. And I'm gonna give you the the URL for it today. So
you can stay close to the 1314 minute mark. All right, just
mentioned
the ground truth project.org. If you take a look at that today,
you'll see that don't get lost in that, John, because I want to
take you there. But let's just take a look at before July
9 2014. Here's what they said on their homepage. It was just the
homepage with nothing else and a contact us here. So this really
only started a couple months ago. Ground Truth is a
Foundation supported initiative. That doesn't mean they're a
nonprofit. They are a Foundation supported initiative, dedicated
to training the next generation of foreign correspondents in the
digital age. It is focused on the issues of social justice,
including human rights freedom of expression, emerging
democracies, the environment, religious affairs and global
health, led by Global Post co founder and editor at large
Charles M. Senate, Sen, and Ott, so it's the same people who run
Global Post ground truth seeks to foster dialogue and
engagement about these issues with the aim of finding
solutions, as well as exposing injustice. Ground Truth also
seeks to build the capacity for freedom of expression in
developing countries around the world by helping to train a new
generation of correspondents who can work together across
different media platforms and cultural backgrounds. Ground
Truth is currently developing fellowships, workshops and
seminars, led by Gary Knight, co founder of these v one one the
seventh photo agency and director of Tufts University's
program for narrative and documentary practice is some
that's a figurehead bullcrap guy. This spirit of country to
country people to people partnership is the core of
ground truth. In other words, this is what they had up there
as they were fundraising for the Foundation supported initiative.
Now go to the ground truth project.org. John? Yeah, my I'm
on the site now. Okay. And go to about us. Okay, all right. And
here, you see,
which, which one are team education partners or media
partners?
If you just click on About Us itself, not don't go down to the
drop down just about us. And hear you say ground truth is a
registered nonprofit headquartered in Boston,
Massachusetts. They're so new, they have not ever filed a form
990. So we have no information I can't the IRS does not confirm
nor deny. And now on this about us go to funders. We did this
last time, I believe funders, which isn't the About Us dropped
down. Yeah, okay. Then here we have this. This is where the
money comes from the Galloway Family Foundation, the Ford
Foundation, the bake Family Trust, the the loose. Henry Luce
Foundation, Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting, and then the
Kaiser Family Foundation. But now, under about us go to media
partners, this is very interesting. What is out,
I want to mention something here while you're doing it, because
I've been looking at this. And it because at the bottom of the
of the homepage, the big family trust is the one that's held up
as the highest. And I don't see any, if you go to the internet
to find anything out about the big family trust, it just links
back to this truth project. There's nothing about these
people. I have not
done it. I have not delved into the branch of looking at all of
them. I'm just presuming that's where the money comes from. You
go to media partners. Now this is this is how this operation
works. So Ground Truth project led by these guys and I'll talk
about these two guys in a moment. But who also co founded
Global Post, they take this money from these foundations,
and then they prop they make stories, and they post it on
Global Post which is right at the top. p r i so they make
radio packages for Public Radio International WGBH, which is a
it is WGBH it creates so much NPR the
number one producer for Public Broadcasting,
there is the V one one photo agency, PBS Frontline PBS News
Hour, they create video packages for public television riot news.
This is a as it says here, the first breaking news site to
connect every story with a related action. Founded in two
that you gotta you gotta Click on this founded in 2000.
I don't understand what what this event
name is 13 minutes. Well, if you go to riot news, which is our y
O T,
I'm looking at it now.org guitar is building a brand spanking new
city for the 2022 World Cup. But go to about looks looks like a
Qatari operation.
Can you go to a boot and then look at the team a bar team.
This to end this they're like joke photos. The all i hipsters.
So here's Brynn mooser, the co founder and he's Oh of course he
is the country director for Artists for Peace and Justice.
Bryn helped build APA PJs secondary school in Port au
Prince, Haiti, and they all help Haiti so much assholes. David
Dharug, one of Esquire magazine's 2012 Americans of the
year. He spent the last decade as a first responder and
Frontline contributor for Reuters, BBC CNN covering some
of the world's largest natural disasters and wars. As Vice
President of Operation Blessing International, he has traveled
over 100 countries. I go down Mollie Swenson. She's the CEO.
Oh, she's lived in Cambridge, Buenos Aires, New York,
Washington, DC before moving to Los Angeles and graduating from
Harvard. She worked in the fashion industry. And Zack
Zachary, who was the head of web design, he's hanging out in his
yacht and they have Alexander go there with the editor in chief
like a selfie photo and then this
web designer had it hanging out on his yacht. And look
at look at the people down below. They're like a glasses on
it's these are joke photos. John, these are not this is not
a serious news organization. Joke photos. Joke photos. Okay,
fine. So here's the way I think it goes. And unless just talk
for a moment about these two guys that we had the Global Post
co founder and then we talked about last time this is Charles
M sonnet. s e n n o TT founder and executive director of the
Ground Truth project. He served as the Boston Globe's Middle
East Bureau Chief based in Jerusalem from 97 to 2001. Now
the writer Peter Thiel. Curtis, nay isn't his name Nando or
something his he had? He had no idea
where you get his I don't see his thing. Where do you find
this?
Oh, no, this is my this is. I'm reading now from my notes from
the show notes. This is not on this website. I'm telling you
about the ground ground. The Ground Truth project
Foundation's co founder, Charles M. sonnet one of the guys behind
all of this bullcrap. So we had Jim, Jim Foley, had his head not
cut off in a not gruesome video with no blood. And he worked for
Global Post. Then we have a guy released a journalist, but he's
not really a journalist. He is Peter Theo Curtis that his that
is his real name, but he has a stage name. This guy, this
writer who was released, and who did he work for? Oh, gee, he
worked for the ground truth foundation. How annoying is
that? That he gets released and this Peter Curtis? It sounds
like they took him out of rehab. Like the guy is he looks like
he's a homeless guy. They picked up and said read this. First of
all,
I want to thank you all for coming out here on this
beautiful Wednesday morning.
As great Come on. Hey, this beautiful Wednesday morning. I
was captured by Oh nasro Jia hotties for two years. And
thanks for coming on. It was beautiful morning, everybody.
How you doing? Good to see you.
In the days following my release on Sunday, I have learned bit by
bit that there have been literally hundreds of people,
brave, determined and big hearted people all over the
world, working for my release. They've been working for two
years on this. I had no idea when I was in prison. I had no
idea that so much effort was being expended on my behalf.
Notice that he's not saying they were gonna kill me. They're
gonna cut my head off. I was worried it was harrowing was so
scary. We knew that my good buddy Jim had just been killed.
He jumped in the front of the line. He said that's the kind of
guy he was. Go ahead kill me. They were working on ransom. I
thought I thought it would never see my family again. No.
And now having found out I am just overwhelmed with emotion.
I'm also overwhelmed by one of the things and that is a total
strangers have been coming up to me and saying, Hey, we're just
glad you're home. Welcome home. Glad you're back. Glad you're
safe. Great to see you. So I suddenly remember how good the
American people are, and what kindness they have in their
hearts. And to all those people I say, a huge thank you, from my
heart, from the bottom of my heart
right from my heart. I mean, the bottom of my heart I read
misread it. They booked a pull this guy out of somewhere. He's
not a journalist. He was an he was a kind of like a method
actor of writers writing books by pretending he was a jihadist,
believe it or not. And he just happens to be working closely
with the global truth Foundation, very annoying. And
according to this article, he gave a huge thank you but did
not want to answer questions. No, of course, no, he had he had
saying he needed to bond with his mother and family. I will
respond, but I can't do it. Now. He hasn't
had the briefing. I know we're cynical people, but I can't look
at it any other
way. So we are very cynical people for a reason. Well,
and I'm going to get to this reason so and then we have this
back to this Charles M sin, not one of the co founders. And by
the way, this Peter Theo Curtis, he was not being held captive by
ISIS. He was being held captive in northern Syria. And somehow
he was transported through all of Syria, through multiple
warring factions and handed over at the southern Golan Heights
border to Israel. Fascinating how that works. Anyway, Cena was
also the the Boston Globe's euro euro bureau chief based in
London from 2001 to 2005. Here's some interesting coincidences.
And he left Jerusalem in 2001 2001, we get 911 He leaves
London on 2005 London bus bombings 2005, head of the
European branch, he follows events around the Madrid
bombings in 2004. Global Post announces the launch of
GroundTruth Project in Boston 2013 to get Boston bombings.
He's a very lucky guy, wherever he leaves terror follows.
It's just that's a very interesting coincidence.
It's just one of those things. It's a coincidence. Do you think
it's a coincidence?
No, I was queuing the sound effect. But I think
that that's the thing I can't do so easily because of the whole
crap here. Anyway, yes, I get it. Now. Ground Truth project, I
believe, is part of the propaganda machine that really
has created ISIS. Of course ISIS does exist, though, we need to
have information and packages being created. And it's I think
it's these guys. And they got a bunch of stringers. And it's
funny, we have lots of video and pictures of Jim Foley, being a
journalist. I haven't seen a lot of his award winning work. If
you go to try to go ahead try and find video report done by
Jim Foley. Isn't that a lot of reporting? We have pictures of
him looking like a reporter. holding a camera with a flak
jacket. Have you found any of
his work, John and I never found anything. Exactly.
And then and this is what people alerted us to Michael Hayden,
principal partner at the Chertoff Group, talking about
what needs to happen with ISIS and how we're running this show
in this interview, and if you listen carefully, he gives it
all away.
I think the point now is we need to flood the zone, using our
technical means of imagery, communications intercepts, even
human penetrations is dangerous is that might be and, and
relying cooperating with our friends in the region, the
Jordanians, the Turks, and the Kurds to get ground truth that
enables us to conduct targeted operations with the kind of
exquisite intelligence that that really requires.
Now, I've thought about this many ways. If he had said ground
troops, the sentence would have made no sense. He means ground
truth. He means we need to get ground truth, to create more
packages and propaganda in order for us to go bomb the region.
Yep, that's what he said. And I'm just specific exactly what
he said.
I'm just and suddenly 26 seconds, I'm gonna play it, roll
it back. And he's very clear
ground truth. And we're looking at the ground truth.org
operation. And it seems that there's a lot of
interconnections here that are coincidences. Well,
the guy whose head was not cut off worked in from ground truth
through the Global post-operation And the guy who
was released who can't talk about anything because he needs
to bond with his mother and is just happy to be here on this
Wednesday, everybody. He also worked for global Truth project.
I think the point now is we need to flood the zone. Using our
technical means of imagery, communications intercepts, even
human penetrations is dangerous is that might be and, and
relying cooperating with our friends in the region, the
Jordanians, the Turks, and the Kurds. To get ground truth that
enables us to conduct targeted operations with the kind of
exquisite intelligence that that really requires. We are here
hashtag America near our hashtag target
soon.
Is it starting to dawn on you people? Keep an eye on this
project this
What did what was this Newman reference?
I'm sorry, the Newman reference.
Yeah, this is this this Hayden. There's more dislike.
There's stuff that I did I miss something. What did he say?
Yeah, I made some Newman thing that Oh, no, no, I
think it is huge. It's actually funny. But he say he says human
penetration.
Said Newman.
I think the point now is we need to flood the zone.
us first of all, we need to flood the zone.
Yeah, as a football reference is ridiculous.
But they're flooding the zone. They're flooding the zone with
PR about the worst ever al Qaeda kicked them out. There's 1000s
Hundreds of Americans are all in Europe returning. So that is
flooding, and flooding, flooding
our technical means of imagery, communications intercepts, even
human penetrations, human penetrations.
I think he's saying he's your
it sounds like Newman,
let's roll it back a little bit could be
imagery, communications intercepts, even human
penetrations as dangerous as that might be and
he's gotta mean human. You're right. But it's I don't know why
I keep hearing new men but
even human penetration just on vile. Does human penetrations
which is dangerous? Yeah.
And relying cooperating with our friends in the region, the
Jordanians, the Turks, and the Kurds to get ground truth that
enables us to conduct targeted operations with the kind of
exquisite intelligence that that really requires, okay, I
can't take it anymore. This guy's getting on my nerves. The
guy's just horrible.
Well, John, before we hit our next 13 minute mark, maybe now
it'd be the time for me to thank you for your courage and say in
the morning to you John C. Dvorak.
Oh, in the morning to you, Adam. Something in the middle Clark
hurry. Clark, John MC curry. And also in the mind all the boots
on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the
Dames and nights out there.
And in the morning to our artists Thank you very much as
always for all your fabulous work fabulous. Daniel McDonald
did the artwork for Episode Six for six we really appreciate
that. It was a it was a good piece. And there was
a very competitive again very competitive very competitive.
There's
a lot of art again, which we like although it's hard to
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No agenda selfie awards. I want to ask you a question before I
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Executive producers and has to give you a
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compatriots, and I won't feel bad at all. Sorry. By the way,
moral self licensing.com would be a great site to repost these
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It's interesting you say that, John, why don't you go to JC de
dot moral self licensing.com? Okay, he says
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Have you seen the new bucket challenge with a dump? No dirt
on themselves now? Yeah,
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moral self license?
I think it's fantastic. Except that the whatever JAVA script or
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want to want to see maybe if I shrink the web's page, but with
a ctrl minus there's no JavaScript. Whatever I do, it's
there's like two certificates and my license is in the middle
of all of filigree.
That's interesting. I don't there's no JavaScript. It's a
Spanish used static HTML page.
Well, it's not set up to it doesn't work on my Windows seven
browser. Oh, there you go. Doesn't work. Do you like the
idea? I liked it a lot. I would like to see a better font. Okay.
I would prefer a much better font. I see. No, I said it.
Yeah. Like, we will set it up and we'll make it happen. I
registered the zoom. Game. I set it up. I do this and Moto,
but it doesn't, it doesn't render properly does.
You know what your machine Mac sucks. Does. Your machine sucks.
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It will render on anybody's machine but yours. And it's got
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two survival sent you a screen capture of it. Maybe it works on
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I'm on Firefox and
see, see what happens.
Yeah, that's why I was rushing to get back to the reads. I was
dealing with. Okay, we got 15 minutes now. Okay.
All right, good. Anyway, I think it should be a node new donation
level of $100. And you get a ticket with better fonts and
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you get to do something horrible in the future.
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years, Chris Herzog to 3499 and Elwood, Illinois. The shows in
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huge street since the Hobby Lobby analysis, which was
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friends right away it can get them off now you guys are right
on and first out of the gate on the Foley beheading hoax now
it's everywhere. The sad thing is that he's made his point and
no one will care anymore. I don't care if those guys didn't
behead him quote unquote. They're still terrorist assholes
bombed them finally, we're going to be able to split the Iraq up
like it was supposed to be years ago. Can I get a quick three
quick clips? A karma for yourselves and everyone
listening a reverend Manning whoop bum and a bingo Boom shaka
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Okay, so once we weren't he just wants a regular karma, right?
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clip. No, okay. Bingo Boom shakalaka I got it all for you.
It's a little tougher today because of the way everything's
rolling. So I'm sorry I'm really trying to do my best here for
everybody
though boom
you've got karma. You have to imagine the way I'm doing that.
I'm like hitting Command Tab I'm using the mouse I'm hitting the
MIDI. Good luck ruler.
You haven't had the guy asked for the 10 clips.
This was bad enough.
Okay, here we go. This is Kevin Macomb and Gig Harbor Washington
and I have a note okay. And by the way, I believe yes, there's
a make good involved in this note. The newsletter work the
damn puppy got me I felt directed to send a check with
your request for direct contributions that and I keep
that and I keep reading in the news that I'm supposed to donate
cash and donate money so he actually has some that was very
funny. This cash gets me closer tonight who had the last time I
donated I requested a birthday call it to my wife. But Adam
called her a man. Oh, wow. Not
Oh, I'm sorry. What did I do?
You call Adela man? I
don't know. I called Adele a man.
Apparently. Name some other name. I'm sorry. She's been
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Can I get a just send cash clip karma? Yeah, is that it? That's
Kevin Macomb in Gig Harbor, Washington.
That's really going to help Okay, yeah, I'm happy to do
that.
We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets
or water. Just send your cash.
You've got karma. Wow. It seems like so long ago, doesn't it?
When we had the three presidents sitting there with that bull
crap for Haiti can get people to steal it. They have cholera and
dying and then but there's nice hotels and we have a nice
hickory. It's funny. Yeah.
Bash car dandona in Birmingham, West Midlands, UK. $200.
I know these. No, no, no, no, you've you've skipped over the
BJ Consulting Group.
Oh, I'm sorry. I did a skip over. You're right PJ Consulting
Group in Osaka, Japan. $21. This is why there's two of us that do
this show. Hi from Bill and JV from the BJ Consulting Group in
Osaka. First of all, you want to thank Dame Astrid of Tokyo for
the octopus balls shout out. Yeah, actually, when we were not
eating octopus balls. We made the vortex award winning chili
made it a while ago for a barbecue and it was a huge hit.
The best one we've ever cooked some photos attached in a
separate email for John and Adam. We closely followed the
recipe that John posted on his website we located a great
shoulder cut meat and we're able to find most of the beans here
in Japan. A little improvisation also needed as grandma's brand
chili powder is no longer made. Now she's made by a new
operation. Well tell everybody who wouldn't did so they can get
I have it. I don't know we don't sell spice anymore. All I know
is we had this it was okay. Bitch to find it. However, it
was the homegrown jalapenos we added that really made up for
it. We hereby challenge Dame Astrid to cook the vortex Chile
and Tokyo henceforth the Vortech Chile challenge. We also request
karma for her JV needs a new human resource karma and Bill
needs some general Neck Beard karma along with the bingo Boom
shakalaka plus don't laugh
Oh he wants it done was rough okay all right. Well hold on a
second I'll get the bingo
we're waiting patiently There's no hurry I can play little harp
no gray
Yeah, no it's just it's not like it's really easy. What's going
on?
I know it but you did a great job the last time I'm sure
you'll nail it again.
So did you request karma new human resource karma? I'm not
quite sure I don't have any I could do an LG why to add to
that that might help. Just to make it a little more complete.
Okay, here we go. I've got I got you this right here. I've got
everything. I'll go on. Here we go. 12345 bump it up. Why you're
laughing? Shut up. Didn't go.
Got karma? I have to say. That's one of my favorites.
I think that's one of the classic classics.
It is it is right up there with with many of them. Yes, indeed.
Now, Bahasa Kardan. Dona in Birmingham, UK $200. And he says
a Sumita Banerjee Sumita Banerjee. Can you hear me way MS
is a bit.
I'm supposed to read this.
Oh, okay. Yep. Okay. Yes. Right. This is the one that that now I
want to say something here. What Adams going to read here is very
different than anything we've ever done on this show. And it
might invite a lot of copycats this may actually indicate a new
thing that can happen on the no agenda show. My concern with it
is that I was told that I can't read this because I'm because I
I don't know why but they because they wouldn't be able to
do it. Right. So all I
got is is it says in my notes here from the back office, which
is you know, Eric's line eight Hello, line eight is for Adam to
read. Not you DeVore AK says in all caps. Yes, I saw that. Okay,
all right. PERB do read aloud and get the records request.
Okay. Give it a shot here. Sumita been jury Banerjee and he
didn't give any phonetics or anything. Sunita Banerjee. So
Mita Banerjee, Sumida Banerjee, can you hear me you can do that
part? With your with your Can you hear me? This is a message
from buscar. Dara. Dona? Please listen carefully. My dearest
Sumita. And I hope that's how we pronounce your name. Or it'd be
rather silly when you play this later for the children. If all
goes to plan, it's late Friday, the 27th of August 2014. That
would be the camp will be the 29th of August. I've just driven
from Birmingham to London and back again. So we could have
another lovely weekend in my home. Right now we're sitting on
the bed and you're probably wondering what's going on?
There's something important I have to ask you. And doing it
this way brings together two things I love. The first of
those is no agenda. Not just Adam and John but the whole
extended Noah gently agenda family of producers and
listeners. That's a lot of people. Right now people from
every corner of the planet are listening to these words. And
that's really important because I want the whole world to know
how much how much I love you. Right now I'm reaching under the
bed to grab a little black box. And now I'm holding it in front
of you inside the box. It's something that sparkles. You
once said I had a sparkle in my eyes and I told you the Sparkle
is you in front of all these witnesses from Birmingham to
Beijing from Boston to Bombay some Mita Banerjee Will you do
me the honor of becoming my wife Wow. Please can you guys share a
double shot of no agenda karma for joyous wedding and a long
and happy life together? I'm pretty sure she's going to say
yes. Yes, of course. Karma well.
Well, that's different. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I
guess. Yeah, I think so. That's a pretty cool thing to do.
I want to know if she said yes is what I want to know. Well,
we'll find out shortly.
Well ventually I think it'd be funny if
we if we get a donation that says, funny stuff, ya know. And
it gives you an invalidation from somebody that says no.
Crazy, crazy not going to do that.
I don't want to remind people, we do have a show on Sunday
coming up anyway to go to divorce.org/na. And if you want
to do proposals on the show you, Adam will read them. And even
though he did kind of chuckle there at some point,
I think it was I think it was no, it was the harmonica you
kidding me? I'm trying to be really serious. It's like, well,
if I thought about the harmonica earlier, we didn't use a
different key.
Well, but it was It came from the high ideal. It came from the
heart. Like that. I thought that was nice. It was nice.
Anyway, so we'll do that. And since we've done it, you don't
have to do it now. Now, because one person wanted to do it for
everybody. It'll never stop and want to remind people that we do
have a show on Sunday. And we we did have some good donations
today. But we are, it's usually goes up and down and up and
down. So direct.org/and a, we'd appreciate any help we can get
for the Sunday show, which will also be done here on the
transatlantic cable. Yeah. And
hopefully we'll have I'll get the jingle machine fixed and
everything and I apologize, I really thought you'll have the
new although it's only I think it's on my end it's got to be
the 13 minute thing it's got to be 30 minutes
is definitely on your end but I still think that if I had the
good high speed modem working right, it might make a
difference the way it's done in the past with peering at least
from Mike the quality of my sound.
Are you sure are you on the Comcast now or you know, you're
sounding good by the way, it's just I'm not Comcast
Oh, well, this it's not been half bad.
Good, yeah.
devora.org/and A besides that, we all seem to go out and do
something very important to continuously be propagating our
formula,
our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth
theories freedom, subjugation and liberation. Contradiction is
those are the facts of this world. And you will refer to
them.
sounds worse, someone sent me something that I wanted to play
for you. Let me see if I can find this. Where it was it? Yes,
here we go. It's this is from Charlie Kaufman. Are you
familiar with Charlie Kaufman, the name rings a bell. He is a
screenwriter. And he is one of his famous screenplays is Being
John Malkovich. Okay. And in 2011 at the British Academy of
Film and Television Arts is what it is BAFTA is best after a 2011
BAFTA as he did a speech not during the television show, but
you know, the bathroom they have like all kinds of seminars and
things you can attend. Sure. And this is a speech, which I felt
so nicely encapsulated the what no agenda is about it, we could
have written this for him. And I wanted to play it because a lot
of people, I think need something. And that's why you'll
have these clips separate in the show notes at 647 dot na
shownotes. com. People need something to play for their
friends to say this is really what this show is about. This is
really why you need to listen to this program. And why it is not
just a necessity it is it is going to make you keep you
healthy, make you healthier. And it is it is not. It is not
needed more now than ever at any time in modern history.
Here's a quote that I found a recent quote that I found. We do
not talk, we bludgeon one another with facts and theories
gleaned from cursory readings of newspapers, magazines, and
digests. That was actually written in 1945 by Henry Miller.
And I mean, I think it's timely. And I think what it says is that
the world has been on the present course it's on for a
long time. People all over the world spend countless hours of
their lives every week being fed entertainment in the forms of
movies, TV shows, newspapers, YouTube videos, the internet.
And it's ludicrous to believe that this stuff doesn't alter
our brains. And it's also equally ludicrous to believe
that at the very least, this mass distraction and
manipulation is not convenient for the people who are in
charge. People are starving. They may not know it because
they're being fed mass produced garbage. The packaging is
colorful It's loud. But it's being produced in the same
factories that make pop tarts and iPads, by people sitting
around thinking, what can we do to get people to buy more of
these, and they're very good at their jobs. But that's what it
is you're getting, because that's what they're making.
They're selling you something. And the world is built on this.
Now, politics and government are built on this corporations are
built on this. Interpersonal relationships are built on this.
And we're starving all of us. And we're killing each other.
And we're hating each other. And we're calling each other liars
and evil, because it's all become marketing. And we want to
win, because we're lonely and empty and scared. And we're led
to believe winning will change all that. But there is no
winning.
I like that. That was really nice. And then he brings, he
brings it home with this, this will be your favorites this
short little bit. And though and our culture
is marketing, this is what we do. And what is marketing,
trying to get people to do what you want them to. It's what
drives our consumer culture. It's what drives our politics
that which is what drives our art, music, movies, books, fine
arts, it's part of every research grant proposal. I don't
want to participate. I don't want to tell you how to sell a
screenplay or tell you how to write a hit or tell you how to
fit into the existing system. I want to tell you that I have a
hope that there's another way to be in this world. And that I
believe with courage and vulnerability and honesty, that
the stuff we put into the world can serve a better purpose. The
way movies work now, and I'm talking about mainstream
industry. The only goal is to get you to buy a product. The
only goal the only goal, the only goal, the only goal. And
this intention creates the movies that we sit through.
Not gonna go to movies that we don't like it. No, I like it.
What he's saying is absolutely true. But it's like one of these
deniers he's a denial denialists I think this is the way it is
folks.
Well, no, he says he has hope he has hope but he doesn't realize
that we are that hope we are that glimmering light in the
horizons as you go.
To get the agenda show is as close as you get to having
actually become reality. It just becomes hope while you're
driving on your commute and get through the day I believe it's
not changed anything with the blues Jennifer you're gay
there's one thing you must remember no agenda in Lauren in
for a healthy balanced news diet and try no agenda show.com
local color for your John Little bit of stuff what's going on
here and in my nation lowlands we've been hanging out?
Well, I'm going to change to make it do something else before
you do that. Okay? Because he was talking about things being
about sales, selling, selling, selling marketing, we have to
recognize when we spot a native average, it's not really native
advertising, maybe it is, I don't know, I have a I have a
clip that we had. This is about not buying something. And I
believe in the olden days. And I think this is still true and as
a person kind of in the media used to be where the where the
advertisers didn't push around the publications. The
publications would push around the advertisers and that was the
idea either advertisers or die right? We're gonna write bad
things about you. It was it was it was all corrupt. I mean, on
both sides, but the kind of corruption at least was on the
one side as opposed to
have you witnessed this personally, where this were the
a lot of stories where this where this used to happen
anecdotally, I more recently, it's not happened. It used to
happen a little bit with Ziff Davis when Bill Ziff was alive,
but then it went the other way and the advertisers push the
push the publishers around now, but there is an instance that
showed up on television that you tell me if this isn't telling me
this isn't a hit piece is a very short little piece. It's It's
the key thing. It's a very short little piece and it is the most
outrageous hit piece I've ever heard and
Venetia. Three people were killed in a crash along 680 CHP
says that they were in a Kia that collided with another car
at the lake Hermann offering that Kia then slammed head on
into a canal. Two people in the front seat one in the back died,
even though the airbags went off and they were all wearing
seatbelts. Were they hamsters?
Now what tell me that that is not the most outrageous thing
you've ever heard as a news report they'd never named the
name of the other car. It's just Kia Kia Kia di
is nothing hamster car.
Kia hamster car.
It's not the car where the hamsters get out. It is like the
Korean parts Yeah. I think that's really cool car I've seen
a hamster added with key is we've talked about it. We talked
about a hamster.
Let me see me Kia. Thanks so hamster. I think it's the key is
the hamster car. Let me say Kia hamster checking yes the soul
the Kia Soul the hamster car the
Kia Soul which I you know my Mimi wanted to go I liked the
soul it's so cute yeah and I so I rented one once and she had
any ideas that she had of getting a Kia Soul or done this
is that thing was
yeah this is yeah this is what we discussed
it up bolts okay well anyway that's what were the key guys
are better to get their act together or else
yeah they better start more bring those hamsters get some
more advertising going
people some advertising going boys you're gonna be slammed
you're not doing very well.
Guest mobiel will be the next moniker.
Wow. Well since we've we've talked about a member of your
family. May I bring up something from another member of your
family if you don't mind? Just okay. This is about buzzkill Jr.
Who's whose wife, Jessica? Yes. She just changed her profile
picture on Facebook. looks very good. Yeah, okay, so she's cute.
But that's not what this is about. This is about his
experience where the President was in town and everyone's cell
phone in the office, the battery drain very, very quickly. And we
have to do this from our producers. That this is the use
of the stingray machine where they it spoofs as a cell phone
tower, and then your phone connects to it. If you have one
John I don't really have phones and I don't carry phone.
Certainly have a smartphone and I just had a drawer and they
suck everything out. They suck out your address book and all
your text and and call information I think anything
they can get a controversial
surveillance system used by the police department to track
people's cell phone activity will continue as is. It is
called Stingray this small device trick cell phones into
connecting to it thinking it is a cell phone tower. The Tacoma
News Tribune reports stingray has been in used by the Tacoma
Police Department since 2008. It can track calls, text messages
and other cell phone information from people up to half a mile
away. Cairo seven ask the mayor to weigh in on the what critics
are calling an invasion of privacy.
People who commit crime use technology to do what they're
going to do. People who want to put our kids in danger use
technology. So it makes sense to have law enforcement to have
access to the same types of tools to counter the type of
technology that people who want to harm us are using
Hold on a second. I don't have that kind of technology to
commit ology and this is the mayor. Good make sense? Just
shut up. Why do you question this citizen? This bothers you,
citizen that we are snooping on your phone? What is your
problem? You know what this is about? Don't you know they used
to have law enforcement to have access to the same types of
tools to counter the type of technology that people want to
harm so using?
Well, the ACLU told the tribune that while the police department
sold the idea to the city as technology that could
potentially find someone wanting to set off a bomb. Its main
purpose has been to get drug dealers five o'clock anchor
Monique Levin will explain exactly how the stingray works
and whether this type of surveillance is allowed under
the patriotic act.
I love that. I love that because I thought it was so funny that
someone calls it the patriotic act. Of course, it's the Patriot
Act,
the patriotic Act,
the patriotic act very good. And this is about the point in the
in the six months cycle, where I remind everybody and I've you
know, for your convenience, I've put a copy in the show notes of
a document which has which was written by a Harvard, I think he
the guy went to Harvard when he was 16. And he graduated summa
cum laude, in record time he was teaching at Harvard, and he was
very, very worried about technology. Eventually enslaving
people enslaving us. Oh, no, yes. And under here in the
Netherlands. There's a crisis of bicycles. There's so many
bicycles now in the Netherlands, it maybe it's just because I
haven't been here in a while that I see it now. But people
are riding on their bikes and the Dutch are very good at
riding bikes. They're so good. There's rarely an accident and
don't wear helmets and knee pads. And you know, they got a
kid in the front and kid on the back that cared. They got the
groceries on the handlebars, and while they're biking, they're
holding up their smartphone in front of their face, Googling or
texting. It is unbelievable.
Selfies. Well biking, not necessarily
selfies, but they're just in there interacting with their
cell phone what their smartphone while their bicycle. Like, and
they have headphones in connected to the smartphone. And
this is not. This is not a rare occurrence. You see this
everywhere in the city. So I recommend you go read this
document. The document is called industrial society and its
future. And it's in the NA tech sub folder. They're written by a
guy named to Theodore some call them Ted Kaczynski. And you may
also known as the Unabomber. So you may want to read this
manifesto, because what is happening today, the piece
you've just heard the enslavement through these these
devices is precisely what he warned for. I'm not endorsing
it. That was a good one.
Thank you. Thank you. I got you with the Harvard stuff, didn't
I?
Yeah, you were leading me astray. You were using kind of
misdirection. trickery, trickery, trickery. trickery.
He was he was a he taught at Harvard. He went in when he was
15 graduated geysers, a super genius mark.
Okay, we got well, I got a new TV show coming up.
Just after Okay, yeah. Okay, great. What's new TV show? Hey,
we're gonna help you get out of this crap hole but we're going
to promote a new TV show.
Tell me what idiot would watch this. This is utopia. The new TV
show coming up on five.
Oh, this is I've seen this here. It's already on television here.
This is a John de Mol program done by his production company.
Tulpa and he's the guy who created Big Brother
15 utopians confident that they can live together. Now backwards
here, but I'm a peppy prepper. I'm
a pastor and steward of society from scratch.
I can shoot anything from whitetail deer to bears some
animal activism. I teach them how to compost their own poo. We
say good luck. I'm polyamorous would not be comfortable with
such relationships, especially in close quarters. My exhibition
is yes, I'll pull down my pants right now. This would be great.
topia begins two weeks from tonight on Fox.
Yeah, he also he also created
show the compost their own poop. Yeah. Yeah,
the idea is you it's big brother in a world where you have to
prepper it's Big Brother meat meats. preppers I presume? Yeah.
I saw someone that Dutch. I felt like five minutes of one of the
last episode. It was horrible. It's fake. It's fake. It's so
fake.
Yes. Yes. And these things are scripted nonsense and
credibly say well okay, it's since you bring that up. There's
a new band. Now they have kind of an old sound a new band and
they've they've they're doing the doing big concert there.
They're coming over from they're doing a big tour. big big big
tour for these guys all the way from
Lebanon Libya, Somalia.
Wesley Clark sevens coming to you. Your thing? Sounds nice.
Yeah. Well, he had he had all the countries where it
is. Well, you're over there. Now. You're over there. Now want
you to play the Scottish referendum clip and tell me
what's going on?
Yes, I do have a little bit of info on this. Thank you for
asking.
The final televised debate between the yes and the no camps
in his Scottish independence campaign has turned heated. The
destiny of the country's future will be decided in mid
September. It is Marina Kosovo was watching how the leaders
fared
was very loud in a very fiery debate in which both men gave it
the role but it appears the victory is in Alex Salmond's
hands in favor of independence. According to a snap poll, some
71% of voters thought he came out on top which is a dramatic
turnaround for Scotland's First Minister. Let's not forget that
last time he was challenged over issues such as the future of the
Scotland's economy and the future of the pound and this
time he came prepared to give his currency options offering
three Plan B's in fact something which he kept repeating but
saying that sticking to the pound would be best, they cannot
stop us using the phone the most important revelation. Now the
head of the Better Together campaign Alistair Darling head
back saying that that would leave Scotland at the mercy of a
foreign country telling it how to spend its money just like
Eurozone countries which have to get their budget signed off in
Brussels,
using somebody else's currency but you don't have a central
bank. So our financial services can't exist in Scotland.
other topics the two clashed on world oil revenues the future of
nuclear weapons as well as health care. The hour and a half
debate ended up being a little bit of a slanging match, as the
pair repeatedly shouted over each other to be heard, there
was very clear that the Scottish National Party leader was
adopting a more emotional but more confident approach. Some
said that the fact that he was shouting over his opponents
could put off some voters. But as we can see, with the results
of the snap election, it seemed to have worked in his favor.
Yeah, September 18. Is the referendum think it's the 18th
when Scotland decides if it will break away from the United
Kingdom? And this, this would be a problem for many reasons. I
don't think it's going to happen. I think it is going to
happen, really, unless there's rigged. This is why I don't
think is going to happen.
Well, you may have a point. But I think it's going to happen.
And I think it's going to be well, the
let's take the typical EU pathway, which is they'll vote
to become independent, and then they'll have a do over. That's
how Ireland went with the with the list below. prediction.
Right? They can have a do over just like, well, two out of
three. Something like that. Maybe the
point that was made in the debates was that did you
currently watch him? Did
you watch the debate? I saw a little bit. But did you see the
debate saw
a little bit too. But the point that I know what the point was
that they made
that it's about oil and the National Health Service? That's
kind of what I got to know the
kicker was, which they didn't get before is that they don't
have to create a central bank. And they can keep using the
pound as as as their currency without. And then of course, the
counter argument was, well, you won't have a central bank, you
won't have financial services, right? Well, you don't have one
now, essentially. So what difference does it make? I think
that I never thought about it. But it's almost like an ideal
for the libertarian mentality is there's no central bank. So what
you have an agreed upon currency that you use for transactions,
and that would be the British pound or you could even switch
to the euro if you wanted to. If they wanted to know they might,
while the central bankers. They had their annual Jackson Hole
meeting in Wyoming. And I was reading some of the some of the
transcripts and some of the reports as I do. And Mario
Draghi and Janet Yellen, and I think a lot of people analyze
the reports agreed. They kind of sounded the same, like I'm
saying like, a lot, you need to catch me on that. The kind of
saying the same thing, you know, similar
stuff. You were How are you using the word wrong?
I'm just saying like, you're just saying, like, for no good
reason. Yeah. And that's not good. Okay. I'm catching myself
though. So on the road to healing. They were saying
similar things about their economies, and of course,
Draghi, about Europe and Yellen about the US. But I don't know I
don't know if I have this clip. Maybe that was a clip from it
was kind of funny, or maybe it was an article let me just
check. It was something to the effect of that the the
unemployment in the United States is flexible, ie it
changes as the economy changes, but that the hurt is maybe this
is it No, but that the unemployment in Europe is
structural. Wow, that's nice. And that it just it's just going
to get worse and worse. There's nothing is T in America we have
immigration. We're trying to fix that and we have younger people
coming in and stuffs gonna happen. Europe is dying. It's
dying. It's just going to be part of the Khalif it's going to
be part of the Islamic State eventually the caliphate not the
Khalif I'm sorry hillbilly Ron by the police that will be part
of the caliphate it's everyone's dying off and I'm making enough
kids and and economically
Yeah, it's already apparently one foot in the grave.
But it's deflation. This is this is very scary. This is very bad.
Deflation stuff. Isn't that isn't that good?
Well, I don't know what they're going to do about it. I the dole
solution is simple. Yeah, let the Germany attack France
usually works.
Can we do it via Austria? Oh. I'm laughing. I think that
warrants an explanation. Why is that a solution to deflect
missionary spiral that Europe is in? Why would it
work? Because we'd have to web super weaponized both countries,
which means you got to spend a lot of money like we're doing on
useless things that we just blow up. So it's in other words, you
met you create manufacturing jobs immediately. So everybody
gets full employment because they're at war. And then they
make sacrifices. So they get a job, but they can't do anything
with the money because they have to make sacrifices for it
because they're in a war. And then they blow up to stuff that
they make. So there's no real wealth being created because
you're in a war, and that solves economic issues.
Excellent. Well, there's, there's an added problem. And
by the way, the immediate one I added, which is that the worst
situations usually create so much tension that you end up
with a lot of babies. Ah, which would be good, which would be
good. So the whole thing is a win win win
right now, with the Ukrainian crisis. Oh, also that here, it's
all in Putin. Putin did it. Putin is the eighth hole. Putin
is responsible for anything. Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin,
Putin. Except, yes.
Doesn't that really say to you that we are extremely good at
this
at this show?
No, no, you Well, yeah. I mean, goes without saying
the US Oh, yes. Oh, yes. I
did. propaganda machines are just Oh, dynamite. Oh,
yeah. Oh, no, the four. Fantastic. Absolutely. And they,
and from our perspective, doing this show, and I think most of
our listeners would agree. From our perspective, they suck at
this.
And think about how much better it could be. That's the that's
the that's the kicker, right there. There was. I'm looking
forward to hear there was a an official letter sent from a
Dutch professor to President Putin, Putin. And I'm looking
for it now. Let me see, I didn't have enough time entirely to put
everything together properly today. So that's why I'm
struggling just a little bit. Well, while while I'm while I'm
scrolling around looking for that. What Russia has now done
is they've turned around and they have started banning
products from Europe, most notably farming products. And,
and and in Finland. They have some they're not calling it
Putin's butter, as you know. So you can no longer export butter
into Russia and people are, then they're just stocking up on
because butter is like no two cents. That's it like again,
butter is so cheap cheese. All these products and things are in
here in the Netherlands. They can't send their products
anymore, of course flowers and we laugh about it. But this is a
catastrophe of epic proportions. I've got the letter, prominent
Dutch professor to Russian President Vladimir Putin. The
letter was written by Professor case Hama link signed by dozens
of Dutch intellectuals and professors. And this is just an
AP report. I thought it looked pretty official. So I didn't
want to just write it off as Bogota did Mr. President Putin,
please accept our apologies on behalf of a great many people
here in the Netherlands for our government and our media. The
facts concerning mh 17 are twisted to defame you and your
country. We are powerless onlookers as we witness how the
Western nations led by the United States accused Russia of
crimes they commit themselves more than anybody else. We
reject the double standards that are used for Russia in the West
and the West. In our societies, sufficient evidence is required
for conviction. The way your and your nation are convicted for
crimes without evidence is ruthless and despicable. It's
pretty interesting coming from the elites of the Netherlands.
You have saved us from the conflict in Syria, and that
could have escalated into a world war true. He came up with
the whole idea of the chemical weapons that was Putin's idea.
The mass killing of innocent Syrian civilians through gassing
by al Qaeda terrorists trained and armed by the US and paid for
by Saudi Arabia was blamed on Assad. In doing so the West
hoped public opinion would turn against Assad paving the way for
an attack on Syria. Now know when I when I read this far, I'm
like, this doesn't so I'm like,
back. I don't want to you know, I'm not catching it. Yeah,
I am. And it's bad. This doesn't sound like an open one
I'm trying to reconstruct.
I'm sorry. No. Yeah. It doesn't sound like a letter to you
either, does it? No. Yeah, exactly.
It sounds like a public relations written piece.
It is a real professor. So I'm not quite yet in sound right
now. It doesn't I agree doesn't sound right. So we'll have to
keep our eye on what's what's going on with that. But the, the
economic disaster, I'm sorry,
we know that Putin doesn't have the wherewithal or or, or he can
hire the right skill sets. Or maybe he has already hired WPP.
I mean, that's what they should do. The Russians should hire one
of the big boys to tell their story side of the story, instead
of themselves. Well, they
would want a halo Knowlton because they're kind of the
crisis guys. Yeah,
that organization, you know, I think they're the WPP, too.
They're all in their blanket organizations. I don't know how
they divided up anymore. It's the conflict of interest. It's a
scam ish. These giant firms,
we seriously you and I would be so much better at doing this.
Can we see through everything so well. And we know how, and you
know, in ours in our system, you might not even have to kill
people. I think you and I can come up with things that are so
good. And that works that are so effective, but you don't have to
kill innocent people, maybe one or two once in a while.
Oh, yeah. But that's just collateral damage.
Just you know. Yeah. Here's just a quick little call back to the
Ferguson affair.
I do have a Ferguson. Let's play it answer what you got. You
gotta pull on. No, no, I have the MacArthur stuff. I want to
talk about Dr. Fergus.
I'll hit Ferguson real quick with just a short clip. Ferguson
as we as we deconstructed I'd say John deconstructed is about
and remember that this is there is so much crime, so many people
who are being killed black black boys, white boys, you name it.
This one in conjunction with the red we got our we got Jackson.
We got we got Eric Holder, we got everybody on and we got the
president stopping his golf game to do a little speech about it.
Is it cynically enough is only to get people to vote Democrat
here is Chris Matthews, from the Democrat party sponsored MSNBC.
And he's laying it out. But while the streets of Ferguson
may have quieted anger over brands death lingers among a
community that believes itself the victim of injustice, and
then might have political implications this coming
November. It's just 10 weeks from now, according to a Pew
Research poll last week, publicly accepted the Brown case
varies widely by party ID, this is what this is an angle you and
I hadn't caught yet. So the way they're doing this is they're
bringing in pew and if you ask anyone and Pew has done a great
job at positioning themselves by doing a lot of tech based stuff,
yeah, better than we did a very, very good job doing polls about
things that are very obvious and, and getting real
credibility with a younger crowd. You know, how many people
would like the iPhone or like the app? So when you just look
right, the Pew Pew Research here is pulling. Yeah. But it's it's
stuff that you think Yeah, well, that makes sense. That sounds
right. So they build up their credibility that way. And now
here's their numbers on on the Ferguson issue. And this is very
funny, like reaction to the Brown case varies widely by
party ID 68% of Democrats plead the case raises important issues
about race compared to this 22% of Republicans who say that so
here's the results are in. Republicans don't think it was
about race only 22% Those crazy asked gun toting nut job, black
people hate and racist Republicans versus the ever
loving Democrats have 68% That's almost seven. I love this race.
Considering that big disparity could anger over the Brown case
motivate more African American voters to turn up this November?
Joining me right now is Democratic Congressman Elijah
Cummings of Maryland and democratic pollster Margie
hammer I didn't You don't need to hear them just know that
there they are. They he sets it up. He brings him in. Let's talk
about it. The debate is framed it's perfect. Well, it's well
executed I hadn't thought about doing the Pew thing take the to
say that Republicans don't think it was about race is beautiful.
Ya know, the whole thing is well done. Republicans are just flat
footed. Here in California we've had the motion you were trying
to like take guns away from people even though they've
always been in denial. Oh, no, we're not going to take your
guns away. But you know, the main thing was to get people to
get their guns taken away if they had some re right if you
have the guns taken away so we can come into your house and
crack guns. You may have been a nut ball or something if you're
on medication. Here's the guns taken away story is with this
where we stand in California.
The State Senate approved legislation today that would
take guns away from people who are found to be out risk of
hurting themselves or others. The legislation would allow law
enforcement and family members to petition the courts for a
temporary restraining order that would bar possession of a
firearm if the gun owner poses a threat. The bill is now headed
back to the assembly for a vote on amendments. It comes in the
wake of the deadly rampage near UC Santa Barbara back in May.
Oh, perfect. Yeah, this was the crazy kid who was under care by
the Hollywood crazy doctor with the podcast. Right That guy?
Yes, well, Texas things different about that
school district in Texas is putting everyone on notice that
some staff members are now carrying guns. The Argyle
Independent School District voted in favor of school
marshals back in January, gun toting teachers and staff must
have a handgun license, undergo firearms training, and pass a
psychological evaluation.
Where do you want to live? Where do you want your kids to go to
school? Well, I'm telling you, I want them in Texas.
We a lot safer, that's for sure.
That will be one of the reasons that maybe they learn something
about guns, some gun safety, some respect. And I've had a
big, sorry,
I'm gonna say the big gun store that's been going on. It's a guy
teaching a nine year old how to shoot a semi automatic or an
automatic weapon. She shoots it. I mean, I don't know why you
would do this. I think a nine year old should learn how to
shoot a gun but not an automatic weapon that has a kick to it. So
she said, Okay, let's take this off. And now you get you have an
automatic machine gun. Okay. All right. Do I just What do I do
now? Do I just pull the trigger? Yeah, just pull the trigger on
that baby. And then she pulls the trigger knocks around or as
shoots the guy. Okay, so
this, this is, I'm not buying what you just said. You just
said you'd completely gave the mainstream description of what
happened. There is video there is video of this. Of the girl
and the guy. Of course, we don't actually see anything happen.
She shoots a single shot. He puts it it's an Uzi, short,
short Uzi. He puts it in single shot mode, she fires the recall
on EWZ is not bad at all. John, it's very minor.
And now I've shot it who she they're not better, very minor.
She shoots this little recoil. She handles it perfectly. And
then the video cuts away. And we're supposed to believe maybe
it happened. I don't know. Maybe something else happened. Maybe
Maybe they're blaming who knows what happened? Why can't I see
the video?
Okay, if you can't see the video, then you're right, I made
a mistake. And it was one of the things about our show, I want to
point out that when one of us gets sidetracked by some
mainstream bullcrap, the other one usually catches it very
rarely do we both make the mistake?
Rarely, as so what is being suggested in this video is then
she pulls the trigger and because of the recoil, she the
gun, the weapon, I should say, starts firing goes up over her
head and either into the back of her head and shoots the guy down
who is apparently now standing behind her. And we I don't I
have sorry to say if you're gonna make this into a big gun
story, not you. But if that's what mainstream media does,
please release the video. I want to see I want to see what
happened. And you just you just gave us an excellent description
of something that we're not allowed to see. I don't
understand why I just don't understand. All right, because
you did that. Because you did that. I'm going to do this to
you. We will I should say not talk about kale on this radio
program just on on a stand on principle on my part. This is
marketplace. You can hear from the voice on our national
treasure NPR and talking about superfoods John, which you
called Wow, two years ago you called the superfood mean. But
for some reason, for some reason he our host here of marketplace
refuses to talk about kale.
And he has a subsidiary letters because they said this liberal
community loves kale.
I know that we are not supposed to speak of kale on the show.
We'll call it the K word or I think the K word John, the K
word. So lovely
Hayward. So in 2012, about 2500 Farms harvested the key word,
which is up from fewer than 1000 in 2007.
Since you have broached the topic, far and away the key word
is the thing that we believe it beats by miles and miles and
miles brussel sprouts kohlrabi, spinach, chard and arugula.
Exactly. I mean those also grill
No, no, no. So I have a clip of a guy that I don't have with us,
unfortunately Because I didn't expect you to drop a kale clip
on me. But there was a food conference recently that was
shown to the speakers on C span and they ran out the numbers and
the number of people eating kale is really low. It's not a high
number. It's not beating all these other vegetables is
bullcrap. So
that's a lie. Yes. spinach, chard and arugula.
Spinach. No way.
No way. He says arugula. Exactly. Exactly. This is NPR.
These are the same people. This is marketplace. The same people
who tell you I got a clip. And that's a peep. Yeah. Do you have
it? No, I
do have it. But I don't. I'd have to get up. I don't know
where it is.
Was it lined up in in a previous show is my question. Yeah, it
was. Do you know what you would have titled it by any chance?
Well, you know me, it's kale. Kale. Look up, kale. It's you.
There's a kale clip.
Okay, I have. Do you know how long ago it would have been?
It would have been a couple of months back.
Wow, that may be a little too long. Let me see. Kale FLOTUS,
Kill Kill. Ted Kale was on Ted. Ted kale is Ted kale.
I don't know. Let's play
the TED kale clip. That sounds kind of cool with greens
because they are rich in B vitamins, vitamins A, C, K, and
minerals. And those are two types of kale. Kale has the most
nutrition per calorie of any plant. The B vitamins will
protect your brain cells and your mitochondria. Vitamins A
and C support your immune cells. Vitamin K keeps your blood
vessels and bones healthy. And minerals are cofactors for
hundreds of different enzymes in your bodies. So have more kale,
parsley.
I remember with the kale. I remember that as it was this so
have more kale, have more. Have more kale, have more kale, have
more kale have more kale.
From fewer than 1000 in 2007 Since you have broached the
topic, far and away the K word is the thing that people eat. It
beats by miles and miles and miles, miles and miles and
miles. John, this is
all crap. This is a lie.
We are now measuring financial gain in miles on marketplace on
NPR. I just want to point that out. Not dollars. Not in pounds
volume. Tons. No miles, buddy scale. miles of kale. How many
miles of kale Have you eaten? Josh?
What's your last time you had kale? What did you have kale
last? You probably eaten a lot more kale than I do because you
have a kale eating wife. When's the last time you had kale?
I'm going to have to say four months ago,
four months ago and you have not had a vegetable since I take it
why this whole show is you asking me questions of which
it's insulting. Of course if I had vegetables I'm sorry.
Veggies Yeah, green greens. I try to I try not to cringe
me how you got my yeah my blood boiling and making a nice steak
with it with a stupid story about a little girl shooting a
guy but now
it Mickey does this to me. She knows it irks me so doesn't say
veggies because she she knows to not she's that's an easy one.
She says greens and she does or just to piss me off.
But she likes them Cori
it's worse at the market. What do we need now? Let's get some
greens ah. Because you know, we're in public and I can't you
know, beat or like I usually do.
Delete the Beats by miles and miles and miles. Brussel
sprouts, Robbie spinach, chard and arugula.
Exactly, exactly. I mean, those also grew at a very fast pace.
If we're talking just you know, vegetable sales.
These people I can't believe they're on the radio.
You know, they all grew from between 10 and 15%. She's making
it up as she has no idea she's totally making and making it out
annually. But kale sorry, the key word is is skyrocketing
ahead of them
skyrocketing ahead of them sky rockets in flight. Why anybody?
I will tell you just
only is one way to go ahead. Let me just say this. Yeah, the only
way you can make kale I looked at all the recipes I'm gonna was
gonna publish. I was like, here's my idea for a book. Tell
me there's not a good idea. It's made me one I can get funded.
Ready? Yeah. The world's greatest kale recipes. It's
it'll be 100 pages this exists. No, no, I'm gonna do better one
word, the 4x greatest kale recipes. It'll be a book with
200 blank pages
this is the finally, finally and you know what? Even this book
you can't get published. You're so lazy. You're such a
procrastinator. Even this one a book with no words, you will not
be able to finish
I sing Christmas gift written all over it, I
stake my reputation on it. You will not get this done. No way.
Not going to happen. It is a fantastic idea. It is a great
idea. And it should be leather bound. It should be very
expensive looking. Yeah, good. Don't Don't ruin it. Here's here
is here's what I think you may actually pull off. You might
maybe succeed in publishing an e book is nature, like a one page
ebook for 99. If you succeed in publishing this book, i i Will
you can put anything you want but I you even that you will not
you are so bad at this. But it's a great idea. I think it's a
fantastic idea. Yes. Yes, yes. Yes. Go for closing and in the
spirit of true confessions, K word chit chat room. And I will
do John, when you publish this, okay, here's we're gonna do if
you're still with me. I'm listening. If you succeed in
publishing the 200 best kale recipes, which is a book with a
cover and to hunt and just empty pages. I will do the audiobook
version. That's the closing
my hand in the spirit of true confessions. Keyword chips. You
put them in the oven for 50 below olive oil, salt. Boom,
delicious. Yum.
I'm being I'm being completely Well, that's good. Keep an open
mind. Right. But so long ago, Bloomberg Businessweek. Thank
you, Vanessa. Thank you from Bloomberg Businessweek no less.
Thanks for coming on the show with your lies.
So I looked at all the kale recipes there were and there was
the only way that seems to be worse. You could actually choke
down the dish is you parboil the kale for like an I don't know as
long as you can take the leathery quality out. Then you
fry it with bacon fat and bacon pieces. And maybe a little onion
and some salt and pepper and you fry it so it becomes you know,
like soy soaked with bacon fat. This is the super food with all
this great nutritional benefits. You're you have to eat bacon and
bacon fat with it to make it palatable. You could actually
eat that dish. It's possible, even though you'd be picking
away the bacon and being more bacon than you will be eating
kale. This is bull crap. This this vegetable stinks.
Welcome. Welcome to audio audible books in audio from
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Man, I just gotta write these down. So I might not edit
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That was actually we missed one that happened while you were
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So we still we still have the guy that phony baloney. Douglas
MacArthur. 33 years old.
Yeah. How annoying is this? You really want to go back to that
we still want to do more of this commentary. Now, but just
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No, he Oh, no, no, we have to talk about something. Oh, hold
on a second, my friend. Do we have tech news? John? Yeah, we
do have checked out quite a bit of good phones and landlines,
and the phone should be made out of Bakelite. That's what I
think it's tech news, everybody Jones C this C stands for
capslock. The Borak here with tech news.
Well, I have some clips actually, you want to call this
tech news. And this was I was watching McLaughlin report and
they're talking about driverless cars now,
this is my text news, my tech news from Yeah,
McLaughlin report because you know, in fact MCLA he says
something in here that you will crack up okay, but this reminds
me of that we measure Listen to the clip earlier in the show
where the guy says I don't know if you're any of you are are old
enough to remember and he talks about Yes, but and when you when
you turn the camera on to the audience, there was people with
Walker's I mean, it was the youngest person in there was
oh, so they all knew of course they all knew 70 There 70 was
the youngest.
So here we go. This is the this is the lead into the driverless
cars discussion by a bunch of farts that don't know anything
is a package.
We're just going to play the package shut your car down shut
a whole bunch of cars down because everything is not wired
up. Today's leading automakers are incorporating computer
control features. Wow, he sounds
bad man. He doesn't sound healthy anymore.
No, he's doesn't look good either. So do model cars. To
help drivers navigate maintain lanes, avoid collisions. balk at
backup, all these features are vulnerable to hacking.
Researchers at the University of California and the University of
Washington have used music CDs, to introduce viruses into car
computer systems taking over their controls. In one test
research teams using a laptop in an adjacent vehicle wirelessly
disabled the electronic braking system of a car traveling at 40
miles per hour. And that's just today's technology. The ultimate
in vehicle automation is Google's self driving car. Now
legal for road use in three states, California, Nevada and
Florida. Google employees have road tested the cars commuting
to work in Silicon Valley. Advocates say driverless cars,
that is vehicles directed by a smartphone app will cut down on
accidents, reduce traffic congestion, and allow people
with disabilities like blindness. So to speak. The FBI
Directorate of Intelligence warns that these benefits come
up with a downside, quote, autonomy will make mobility more
efficient. That's a warning will also open up greater
possibilities for duels use applications and ways for a car
to be more of a potential lethal weapon than it is today. For
instance, driverless cars could be used for stalking, or
surveillance or as getaway vehicles leaving criminals free
to shoot at pursues
this program needs to be taken off the television airwaves.
This is officially this he should have added the word
glitch in there just to top it off for good measure. That was
shit.
You think What about especially the driverless cars are apps
versus spy phone? Okay. Is that does nobody on the staff? Does
nobody sitting there does nobody producing this show? Does nobody
bought at Gaff?
No, no. No. The people who are producing this are dicks. The
people who are on the show are dicks. The information is dicks.
It's stupid. No wonder the littlest dumb show can look good
with tech news. At least I threw in a phone reference a couple
smartphone. Oh, tech news. So yes. Sounds proper to me. That
sounds right. It's an app. Oh, yes. So tell me, Elena. So tell
me he's a constitutional lawyer. Tell me she said something
stupid.
And that's our 13 minute mark right there. I shall write that
down. As for I shall write it in there. Perfect. Yeah. So I'll
have to reconnect. I guess. This was 13 minutes on the button. 13
minutes on the nose. Perfect. And John? No. Yes. This was this
was 13 minutes. That was a little shorter.
It was definitely less than 13. I'm
tiny, two minutes. 13 minutes. Okay. Well, I
think Turkey was the number I had originally I said 30
minutes. My question is,
does Eleanor say something stupid in one of your clips.
Eleanor was the only one who didn't say Oh, thinks, oh,
that's just how weird it is. I have two more little sub clips
here. Listen to these and you get the whole gist of the whole
deal. It's weird. You get the whole gist of the whole deal.
You said weird. What was what was my error? That's how weird
this was. Ah damn it.
I have conversations with people who now say, hey, at least I
didn't say weird. They're so afraid now to talk with me.
Good. I think it's bad. I we talked about this at the dinner
table wars that we have to get rid of. And when people say that
the dinner table and by the way, one of my pet peeve wars, which
I've ever I've ever heard you say on the show. I think I jump
all over you. You said it.
On Tom merits program. You're supposed to say well, what was
that? What are you talking about? What
did I say? What are you talking about? Oh, wow. I said, Oh, wow.
You said, Oh, wow. I don't remember that. I don't recall.
I I can clip it. It's at the 24 minute mark and what and
I said In what regard and within in what you said
something you said he said blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Let me
do my imitation Tom Merritt. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then you went, wow. And I went, Oh, wow. He said, Oh, wow.
Oh, man. So anyway, Oh, wow. It's like, I don't like anyone
saying that bitch about all the time when I'm going to cache
your says it. Let's get back to these clips. I'm sorry. But you
said it. I believe to be aware of that you must have it's
lurking the Oh, wow.
Move on old man.
Driverless cars discussion? One question who poses the greater
risk of hacking high tech cars? Mischievous teenage geeks? Or
cyber criminals?
Well, John, I would say if you're talking about how many
attacks would come it would probably be the geeks. But if
you talk about some malevolent attack, like disabling the
brakes on somebody's car, when it's going on the highway, and
doing it deliberately, I would say would be an enemy of some
kind or other domestic or foreign
or maybe if it's Michael Hastings in a journalist
situation.
But I do think look, every time you make one of these advances,
there are no doubt there are problems with it, but you
disable somebody's brakes, you do it mechanically. Or you do it
by cyber warfare. That is really bad to murder if those people
die I'm not sure it's I mean, I don't see what the really the
basic differences between if you're going to disabled persons
break,
I need to interrupt for one moment, the exact same package
and I know I can without even having seen it. I know the video
footage that they showed with the head the tricked out Prius
and the guys at the door is open. He's running alongside and
the steering wheel jerks and and then I ended in the horn starts
honking the lights start flashing. I've seen the footage
here in the Netherlands on a package. Similar package to
package and yes, and this package was created, I believe
because of DEF CON. And it's filler. It's summertime filler.
And that's a presentation at DEF CON about hacking cars. And then
all of a sudden this video is from a year ago. It's from Def
Con last year. And when it came out Yeah, exactly. It was
alright, so this was marginally interesting. Yes. No. All right.
No, all right.
Go to driverless cars discussion, too. And it will get
me done with this. And tech news will be over No,
no, no, we have more tech news.
We want objectivity. And more, can you speak to this? You know,
I
actually think it's quite dangerous, you know, because it
renders too many people in a position to create accidents
that really are not responsible in the sense that they're
driving the car. And that seems to me to give you a level of of
recklessness that I would be uncomfortable with. So one thing
I would do is if you're going to have that, you have to find some
way to protect the car from any kind of independent people, you
know, hacking away a whole new
area for lawyers here. And you know, if you're talking about
the 14 year old in Indonesia, there's so many ways you can
disrupt life in this country, the power grids and so forth.
And they're not doing that. So I choose to look at the positive
side of this. Most of the 60 to 70% of accidents are caused by
driver errors. gets rid of that you can also buy cars today that
park automatically I wouldn't mind having one of those
people don't realize how automated their cars already are
your steering your brakes, things that feel like you're
doing yourself. That's computers that work there. People don't
really beat up they don't realize it. I think people like
to feel that they're in control. So these Google's self driving
cars I think will be slow to catch on. It'll be more of a
younger generation thing. And I don't think it's going to be
she should be on twit she'd be perfect. And here's how Eleanor
from the McLaughlin group
that was actually Eleanor pass it off to the other woman and
she went on and on now. And she's the one who talked about
the the number of cars that have fly by wire steering, I think of
mount to the Prius. And I don't know anyone else who don't know
how many cars use that technology. But anyway, this
whole thing that was it, they don't know what the hell's going
on. And they just yak away. This is the worst this show is jumped
the shark. And you're right. If you look at McLaughlin, he can
barely keep his head up. He's like the old Pope that died. You
know, his head was bent. Sad, but it's like, if he's like, if
he's, I would say within the I wouldn't put it in the book,
because it's morbid. But I would say within the next 12 months,
he's not going to be doing the show anymore, for obvious
reasons. So
it's possible. No, we don't want to put bad karma on the guy. Oh,
I forgot everyone's karma. We'll do it. We'll do it before the
show is over. It's been a tough one.
Oh, garments exhausted came around. And you got all right.
Yeah. Well, it was because of the breakup.
I'll do what's right.
I have some tech. I have some tech news briefly as some tech
news.
Oh, and more tech news, tech news.
I was scanning through my C span clips, and this was the
announcement.
The group nextgov recently hosted a discussion on
cybersecurity and how agencies are responding to threats with
new technology. Among the speakers, is the deputy
assistant the Homeland Secretary for cybersecurity strategy and
emergency communications.
This is an hour and a half. This is an hour and a half hour and a
half. An hour and a half. We should have our show start off.
This is about 14 hours
without interruption every 13 minutes just like real TV.
I'm Yeah, right. So when I'm making any extra money on it, I
am already for this. I'm okay. This is an interesting outfit
next. Gov. And before we even start, let me check out this
group next. Gov. And okay,
I believe we've talked about these people. Well, once
again, it is the scam of all scams. We have completely missed
the boat on this one when I saw the moderator and host and one
of the voices of next gov and I have a new person to despise.
Okay, Alia stern Steen.
I want to thank our guests for coming in this morning. This is
one of the best new lineups we've had since Pheidon. Join
five years ago do you
are you familiar with Lisa Stern Steen? How do you spell her name
a liy. A H. Stern Stearns Dean stern Stein and she has this hat
on which is her trademark hat. And it's like a huge it's like a
it is similar to a garden pot upside down on her head made of
felt dry. It covers her ears drawers down over her eyebrows
just above her eyes with a little brim and she has little
pixie cutie hair thing underneath it. And it is a she
she's a dick. What?
She is also one of the people that show up apparently, because
I'm looking at pictures of her on MSNBC.
She's everywhere now I see her everywhere. And she's because
she's so cute.
So thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you all for coming in
this morning.
This is a woman who was heading up an outfit that steals money
from government people and scares them with bullcrap. And
like,
want to move briefly through the introduction so that we can let
each of them speak and then have time at the end. For questions
and answers and you think you
BMV minutes. Do we have a picture of her John Dickinson
She looks super annoying.
She does. So the topic we're addressing here is you have ever
increasing challenges securing government networks ever
increasing. Can you secure? Me me me? One side is agencies have
to prepare for the unprepared trouble. And that's these,
John, we have to agency have to prepare for the unprepared
trouble.
Can I ask you a question?
Is it going to be one of those is gonna make me mad?
They'll make you mad. Can I ask you a question? Yes. How do you
prepare for the unprepared? Well, it makes no sense. It
makes no logical sense. It makes no logical sense.
It's on C span to it's on C span not to but in C span.
Extensive prepare for the brief is unprepared. Well, you can't
prepare for it. Period. This is
a tech person.
ever evolving threats that are hitting the internet,
the ever evolving threats that are hitting the internet. You
surely have heard revolving Well, every 13 minutes, we have
one of these ever evolving threats that are hitting the
internet, smartphones, refrigerators, cars, any
smartphones, refrigerators, cars, it's all threats to
the unprepared trouble. And that's these ever evolving
threats that are hitting the internet, smartphones,
refrigerators, cars, anything connected to networks.
Just let me ask you something. Is there an unprepared bubble
event that you were not prepared for regarding your refrigerator
recently? Because,
yeah, yeah, the power went out and the grid went out for a
couple minutes.
And then on the other side you have ever shrinking IT budgets,
which we're going to take away from you. So agencies are
getting pretty creative in finding new ways to make sure
their computer systems are as secure as possible, in a cost
effective manner.
All right. I'm calling this woman out as a shield. Douchebag
phony hipster chick, who needs to stop this
hipster chick she is?
Let me introduce each of our guests. No, I'm not gonna do
that.
That's really voices enough to drive enough. To see the
visual, you have to see the visual of this chick is just Ah,
okay. It's your new favorite girl.
Yeah, that's my new favorite girl. I think we're done. I
think we should end this on a high note. The hipster chick
Adam hates? Or would you like to play us out with one thing that
will leave us to ponder life?
Okay, well, I can play a couple of things here that are kind of
amusing. But let's play this is a kicker. Another one is kickers
little short comment. Something that's that's terse and to the
point, and then gets us all right where you want to be this
is the carbon tax kicker with with thumb, Hartman,
Carbon Tax kicker thumb Hartman cannot be good. If we
want to save our planet and the human race from the greatest
threat we've ever faced a carbon tax is absolutely essential.
It's just as simple.
Only if you accept the science, it's just that it's that simple.
It's just that simple. There's no two ways about it.
You save the human race. That's right. This is the biggest
threat in the history of mankind. That's right. It
absolutely is.
Ebola is a close close second, though.
No, I think
I think Ebola has come like
a little bigger in the pack. But okay, well,
all right. Or this the Spanish flu? Or is that Spanish Fly? I
can't remember
the flu. That wasn't good, either.
Hey, John, thanks for hanging in there, man. It must have been
really tough on your end.
Actually, it was okay. Yeah. That means that for the lake.
Yeah. Well, it was it. Well, you've done very well. I could
not tell it all.
As I stepped all over. Yeah.
I'm used to sounding much more asleep.
Yeah, well, now it's early afternoon, for God's sake. No
kidding. Never tweeted. Oh,
we didn't do that either. Well, we'll try to do better on on
Sunday. We'll see. We'll get everything working. Uh, thank
you all very much for your courage. Thank you for staying
around. I got the karma coming up. As promised. We'll, we'll
try and get everything together. Everybody coming to you from the
wired canal house here in the pipe. And Amsterdam in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remained while
he's traveling the world. galavanting as it were, I'm John
C. Dvorak
will talk to you on Sunday right here on no agenda.
You've got karma. Let me take a selfie. I'm Joe Biden and thank
you for taking the time to listen.
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