But dad do I have to own dad do I have to? Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak, Sunday June 8 2014. Tampere Gitmo nation media
assassination episode six to four. This is no agenda falling
CQ to actual sips and chips and see from FEMA Region six in the
capital the drone Star State in the morning everybody I'm Adam
curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where there is no ship at sea
around these parts. I'm John C. Dvorak. Levin Buzzkill.
Yeah Actually there are ships around your your parts at sea.
This is a warship weekend no yes warship weekend boy.
Hold on a second. Let me look out the window.
It's there a couple there. I know there are ice. I'm
looking at the bay. There's nothing out here.
This is the weekend when amateur radio professionals which is of
course a contradiction in terms totally call CQ. And, of course,
you're illegal
to be a professional.
If you're an amateur. Yeah, yeah. So all of the warships
have tuned their radios to the amateur radio frequencies and,
and everyone's trying to get in contact with them. I try I spoke
to the USS or like the Orlik. Yes. Or like, or like I didn't
know what existed but I spoke with it. What kind of a ship is
it? It's a well you can Google it. It's pretty big one. Big big
old big. I think it's orlik.org Actually, yeah. Oh, R Leck. It's
a it's like a naval. It's a museum obviously a destroyer.
World War Two era destroyer. Wow. It's
a clunker.
These are all crimes. Yeah. I drove trying to get the
submarine. It was
during class destroyer. destroyer? She's I can't even
say anything to them. We're still waking up. So it was a
gearing class destroyer in service with the United States
Navy from 1945 to 1982. And in 1982 She was sold to Turkey. Oh,
I didn't know that Turkish ship you're gonna do? Yeah, I think
there may be some Versiv I didn't know that. So this
clunker from 1982 You know taken out of commission 82. And it's a
funky looking thing. It is. Is is Turkish is a Turkish navy.
But it doesn't fly under Turkish flag.
Well, it was sold to Turkey maybe maybe not.
Do they know they own it? Do they know that? It's old didn't
know that. It's a clunker. Hey, air Dhawan love that new ship
transferred because it was it was transferred to transfer.
Yes, it just changed the name to the south east Texas war
memorial and Heritage Foundation at Orange Texas Aygo where she
was birth as the museum ship. Yeah, so then it has been moved
to Lake Charles, or it's gonna be moved to Lake Charles,
Louisiana.
I think it was in Louisiana. I think it was unmetered. That's
where
they moved it. Yeah. And I think this Turkish connection, I mean,
I didn't know about that after her final decommissioning, the
Turkish Government transferred it to south. Maybe it's just a
spy ship. And
so there's hams on board of all of these ships, even like the,
the old Marconi steamship, and, you know, decommissioned
submarines. And if you if you do a Kyuzo with 15 of them, you get
a badge.
I got to get that two badges. You know, I
got to get two badges. I need to get to 13 T it's never gonna
happen. He's like, I'm prepping. If you set the rest of the day
after the show. It's impossible. Lauren. No, no, no, you see, you
have what are called pileups. Because so the guy will be there
like hey, this is the USS or like, and I think his call was
WW to L S T or something like that. And then you say, oh, QR
Zed, so he's listening and that's like 8 million guys all
at the same time with you know, big kilowatt amplifiers and none
of the big man Yeah, just you can't compete with that. No, I'm
gonna QR Pierre. I'm I like the low power stuff. Yeah. He loves
you. It's your fault divorce. You got me started on this.
I get too many people started on it. Yeah, well, we got a young
people that are finally getting involved. But yeah, you're
right. There's these guys out there that have really nothing
else to do and they just load up with this high five year.
Everybody.
What do they call them? They call them a big guns. That's
what they call them the big guns which basically means you had
you know $5,000 To drop on crap. Including a tower in your yard,
big antenna and Epson antennas, but I like just my little wire
you know?
It's gonna It's cool when that is so quaint
ya know, I talked to see when I was talking to Finland the other
day and France
that stinks. You can't get a badge because of these guys.
Well, it's, it kind of takes away the you know, it's kind of
the joy is like, Hey man, how you doing? What's that sub like?
But you got no time for that and be like, Alright, I gotta move
on. I got 15 other guys calling. Well, who cares? I want to talk
for a second.
That's Gosh, thanks for
contacting me anyway, so I could only do I'd like half an hour
yesterday that I spent on it and a little bit little bit late
last night and that's excess. I gotta have time for this. Is
there stuff going on on the world? I got stuff to look at.
Yeah, like my one of my favourite stories. Is they
Secret Service one software that detects social media sarcasm.
Yeah, this seemed like a bull crap story to me. It did, but it
did. But but I believe it's true. Well, I looked at the it
was an RFI and RFP. I think RFP. Yeah, it looked legit. i Okay.
Well, and I think that goes along with the story is that it
goes it goes along with a story I've been saving that you
actually responded to very negatively when someone
mentioned it to you on Twitter. Think maybe because you didn't
believe it. The headline is, cynics face far higher risk of
Alzheimer's. Oh yeah. Oh crap. There you go.
I don't remember reading that. I
don't remember saying bullcrap even just now. Your researchers
asked 1449 People with an average age of 71. Take note,
John to take two tests. Let's see if we can take you not 71
But maybe you can take the test home okay, and see if we have a
test. This is Dr. Simon Ridley from Alzheimer's Research UK
said there are likely to be many risk factors for dementia and
this study suggests that a person's outlook may also have a
role to play. However, only a small number of the volunteers
study develop dementia. Oh man see them?
already bad? Yeah, but
I mean, they might as well say 13 reasons why cynics face far
higher risk of Alzheimer's. That's what we need. Yeah. Why
do people love this so much? What do you what is it with
that? What is the human and the
completion factor?
You mean like doing three dots after a sentence?
No, no, no, there's a when you direct marketers know this
trick. They it's called a completion factor and is people
play into it. It's you sell miniature cars, let's say by
mail order. And just
to name something you're not collecting by any chance, right?
Not sure. Come on for an artwork and we're gonna anyway, so So
you collect these are rings or coins? Yeah, go ahead, try and
gloss over it. So you buy one. I've always wanted a replica of
a 47 Ford pickup truck. And so you buy it at such cheap that
given them away, there's like a buck 50 And of course, you can
subscribe and get more for five bucks apiece every month. So you
buy the one truck for the steel price of a buck 50 But it's a
mail order game anyway,
this is like the cancel anytime you want get this free gift.
Pretty much but this is a little different because we're talking
about the completion factor. So you get the one little cheap
truck for a buck 50 And you can you can cancel if you want to or
not.
But this is what I as a kid it was the kit like a model kit of
a model aeroplane or something. I
know that's one of the factors but that's not what I'm talking
about. Yes, you do that and they you can get them they can put
you on a subscription get more and more. That's what But the
kicker is is what they do what the completion factor element
is, is they send you the free or the cheap little truck and then
they send you a rack that holds 20 of them.
Ah, yeah. Got a you have your one truck in Iraq. Yeah. And it
does not
doesn't look you have the you have a sense of of a human sense
of obligation to fill up this. They do with coin collectors,
you get the you know, my daughter who had it had happened
to her. She started collecting the new fancier quarters with
all the little states on the back and she bought one of those
little binders at home from the franc, and it was nuts about
filling it up. She had to fill it up.
Okay, so how does that compare? How does that apply to the
listicles?
List? I think I think there's the same element of play you
have if there's 13 Things that you date, you will now have
access to that knowledge have you feel the obligation to read
through the list until it's done until you're at number 13 I
believe it's the same function Now the ones that always cracked
me up is that the dis 13, nine, you always have to have a
different kind of screen number, it's all sales. And so they have
all these different, you know, 13, this nine that have five
best and all the rest. The ones that always cracked me up is
when I think it was glamour, or Mademoiselle, or one of these,
some of these women's magazines came out with these 595 ways
to satisfy your man
613 new ideas to look better. What was it? I don't understand
what I never did get that mechanism. I don't know what
they were doing,
should we not to try to apply this to our newsletter?
We could I could do all with the six but I didn't do 600.
But let's just do 15 reasons. Donating will change your life,
your sex life.
That would probably be a big hit have a high open rate. I got
invited, listen to the show. They know that we expose these
things. So the so we had a huge open rate on one of the
newsletters recently. Because the research I've done this
before, it's it's kind of a cheap trick. But I do it because
the open rates are just you know, oh,
wait a minute. I know exactly which one had the high open
rate. Yeah, the one off subject line.
Hey, yes.
That's amazing. Because I saw that and, and I was like, oh
shit. John wants to say something like this. It's gonna
be bad or like, you know, hey, usually something like that
would come in from you and be like, Hey, don't ever do that
again. That's never or I've noticed this. Yeah, that wasn't
good. It was oh, it's the newsletter. Ah, you got me.
I got a couple of notice. Some guys say couldn't he says he saw
this. Hey. And he says, You know, I couldn't I just had
there's nothing I could do. And that turns out that's been
research. I mean, that came from research that that is the number
one it for people out there want to send out some newsletters or
do something like that the number but you can't do it. Of
course you can't of course I can do it. But I've done it twice. I
did it once about six months ago. But you can do it every so
often. And it does have a high rate of returning people open
the newsletter most of this doesn't sound like anything I'm
interested in.
But the only other time I receive an email with subject
line Hey, is usually followed by I am sexy girl from India. I
noticed you are in my neighbourhood. Let us hook up.
Surely you have seen this one? Yeah. Some some light. It's
always like you're in my neighbourhood
is when I see hey, as the subject line, I tend to pop it
open to yours. Of course.
Well, the big thing that happened this week, which is
astounding to me, because I try I actually sat down and track
this and looked at the response from not just people on the
tweeters, but also on our own audience, also, and you can
always follow me on Twitter, the media, but everyone was so happy
and gleeful to let us all know that the CIA had joined Twitter.
Oh, yeah. While the while the actual
news story that the CIA has now requested to the second US
Circuit Court of Appeals, that less information or more
redaction be put in place on the on their legal justification of
droning American citizens? No one is no one talked about that.
And I'm thinking these guys are brilliant. You know, get out
there with your stupid ass tweet. Oh, I'm gonna say
something funny to the CIA. Even WikiLeaks, we can't wait to
report on your undisclosed Fei Fei Fei. But the real news is
they're trying to cover up the fact that they are that they
want to redact their justification for droning
American citizens. Gorgeous. That's just beyond it's beyond
me. Yeah. And if you if you're out there and you tweeted or
retweeted something about the CIA shame on you. I agree. And
unfortunately, I saw a lot of our our producers fall fall for
the trap.
Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. I put it in the show. That
anyone using the whole door starts to communicate with the
CIA over Twitter. They're on a hit list. I don't know that it's
a honeypot.
It's a collection. No, it's not. It's like the kids. It's just as
stupid as the CIA gift shop. Anyone can walk in there you
take the tour. You buy it? Yeah, I got a whole bunch of the
challenge coins everything. It's just like the gift shop. It's If
nothing more, nothing else is stupid. And it's completely
meant to distract from the real news I can add when did the CIA
join? Because this news came out I think it was like last week
and the writer I know, I think it was earlier. No, no, no later
it was around the fifth or sixth. Wasn't it? Two days ago?
Three days ago,
maybe? Yeah, right. It was after the show. Let's take a look.
Twitter, slash CIA. Let's look at their first tweet, but
doesn't say when they first joined.
It would have their first retweets.
Yeah, June 6. Their first tweet, we can neither confirm nor deny
that this is our first tweet. June 6.
Oh, that is so funny. June
6, US government citing possible exceptionally grave harm to
national security told a federal appeals court who wants to give
the public less information about its legal justification
for using drones to kill Americans suspected of terrorism
overseas. The Central Intelligence Agency made the
requests and papers submitted late Thursday. Yeah, the same
day this tweet comes out. Hello. Are you people stupid? Ah, it's
it's amazing. But yet I'm not amazed. Of course.
Don't look over there. Yeah. Oh, boy. We haven't
played that one a while Hold on a second. Oh, look over here.
Nothing to see here. Look at that.
I thought that was dumbfounding. Ladies and gentlemen
dumbfounding. Yeah, a couple of proclamations that came in. Of
course, we had D Day. It you know, that was my grandfather
was landed at Normandy. And he actually fought in RNM. The
infamous bridge too far. And it was kind of weird. That to hear
the president, I don't know it didn't feel right. When he was
talking about when he had to he did this big emotional speech.
Do you see any of it?
Only a snippet?
It just felt weird. I can't exactly pinpoint what was off
about it.
It was the second Obama.
It was the other guy. So anyway, he has, uh, thankfully
proclaimed it to D Day National Remembrance Day. 2014. But also
we start a brand new week. See if you can see if you can guess
what it is John over. Let's do a little echo. I've been
practising on my echo. Over farmlands in town squares, atop
skyscrapers and capitol buildings. The American flag
soars that reminds us of our history 13 colonies and rose up
against an empire and celebrates a spirit of 50 Proud states that
form our union today.
Yes, the hint. That's that is the hint. Flag Day and yes,
n national flag week, like week, so you we can all fly the stars
and stripes. And the President directed around
the neighbourhood here. I'm looking out the window. And I'm
looking I don't see anything. No, no wonder what do you
expect? It's, you know, Berkeley area.
The President has also announced his delegation to attend the
Federative Republic of Brazil opening of the FIFA World Cup
ceremony. This is this is a good we got to get in on this. This
is cool, man. You get sent off as a as a member of the I'm sure
you get to take air force to or something like that, don't you
think?
I would think it takes some sort of a job maybe just to see 140
with a strap in chat with the lawn chairs. Dan Pfeiffer senior
adviser to the President will be leading the delegation. He needs
to go because he's been he's been annoying. Recently. He's
been saying stupid stuff on the Sunday shows. The Honourable
Liliana I yelled she is the ambassador to Brazil. Michelle
Akers, retire member retired member of the United States
women's national soccer team and Gabriella Reese.
Ah, I don't know who any of these people are every other
Reese volley beach volleyball world champion. Hello.
I don't know. Let me see
smokin is what she is. She smokes kind of hot. Oh, smokin
hot.
But Gabriella
Reese? Are II
smoking hot to see. Now there she is. She's very attractive.
Yes. And the President also announced hid the designation of
the presidential delegation to Kyiv Ukraine to attend the
inauguration of His Excellency Pedro Poroshenko. President
Elect of Ukraine, Excellency and that of course was yesterday and
attending we're Dr. Joe see the ambassador mug John McCain, Ron
Johnson, Chris Murphy. Marcia Marcy Kaptur really got it.
That's pretty funny. The Honourable Marcia Marcy Kaptur
got nicknames now. Bear. And, and Newland, of course,
now that you mentioned McCain, yeah, I can segue out of this
good. We need it. So the VA was having a press conference about
the, you know, even though it's nobody cares anymore. And
because of it because it's been blown off the radar.
Well, of course at the VA press conference where they're talking
about it's not the doctors fault and they did there's not enough
of a workload that I think they did common complaint was the
doctors that work for the VA don't really do enough they see
a couple patients when they can see five kind of thing.
Meanwhile, some McCain's up there with the rest of these
guys Colburn in the rest. And he just starts mouthing off about
the Bergdahl deal and it becomes a kind of a heated debate.
So this decision to bring Sergeant Bergdahl home, and we
applaud that he is home is ill founded, it is a mistake. And it
is putting my the lives of American servicemen and women at
risk. And that to me is unacceptable to the American
people.
I tried to walk off, say what he's now trying to get off
because this is a VA thing is
he wants to leave and are they hold? Are they hold pushing him
back on the stage or not?
They're pushing it back. He jumps back in. Okay.
Taliban leader, al Qaeda members of al Qaeda to know, yeah.
They're listed as Taliban leaders they were associated
with in part of the tough Taliban. We I'm sure you are
aware that in 2001, the Taliban and al Qaeda were working
together, which is the reason why we went there. These
individuals were working with al Qaeda there. But there was some
people was just there on the beat for the United States. But
they were hoping for these people have dedicated their
lives to destroying us. These people have dedicated their very
existence.
Is that true by presidential proclamation?
Why do you think that when the judgement was made, that if they
released them, it would pose a great risk to the United States
of America? The Taliban? They are Taliban and al Qaeda. Don't
you understand that? Were you around? You're like you said
you're an old man. You might remember that in 2001 How Qaeda
found a haven with the Taliban. That's why we initially invaded
Afghanistan to somehow separate these people from al Qaeda is
just damn foolishness
I understand your your problem with the with giving up the five
Taliban Cabinet members. I still can't get my head around
applauding that Bergdahl is home and opposing the swap should you
still be in captivity under these circumstances?
I think that the deal should not have been made as I've said many
times, but I would make every effort and continue to make
every effort to bring him home. Thank you.
That's interesting. I also received a couple emails two of
which I'd like to share since of course we also you know we kind
of kicked off our coverage from our head mofo in charge the
sergeant with his assessment of the situation and there's
multiple angles to be to be looked at in this case, and this
would be the last time I think we should spend any any
attention on
what we I you know, I know what you're saying and I would feel
the same way except I don't think we're gonna get away from
it because these politicals are I mean, when they're
interrupting a VA hospital scandal press conference I think
we're gonna see more of this by the way if the these congressmen
in congress people decide to start taking questions that are
off topic that extreme although
that that is not a typical when you even the President when he's
you know in Brussels, you know, talking about NATO, they'll
they'll or talking about things, they'll ambush them with
questions and of course, it's not an ambush because these
things I think McCain might have been sounded like he went a
little off script here. But he here's a here's one from one of
our producers who grew up in Hailey, Idaho. This is a
hometown of Bo Diddley producers as an m&e Bo directly but
obviously became aware of him after his capture Haley is a
small town and Bob Bergdahl drove a UPS truck at my house
was on his route from what I understand the Bergdahl his
parents are on the hippy spectrum today, which I think is
treatable, and they homeschool their children another treatable
offence I wanted to direct you to a story written by Michael
Hastings in 2012. Now you've probably seen this
as well, we actually discussed the elements of this so the
person says along very good article, but is it possible for
me to summarise what I gleaned from the article was the bow was
a naive kid and tried to try it and failed to join the French
Foreign Legion. Anyway, the proofs are close by saying hope
you have time to read it. The new cycle in the last week has
been pretty disgusting as a kid who has been and a kid who has
been pow for five years have been reduced to a bunch of sound
bites for the left and right to argue about another reason I'm
happy to call myself an independent a Hailey Idaho has
received threats for wanting to celebrate Bose releasing the
taller bond, lens bomber and his drone him and subsequently
cancelled the scheduling celebrations were aware he's not
a hero and made many bad choices but he is the only son of one of
our neighbours and we are happy he did not end up being killed
in captivity. So that's one and then the other one and it's very
reasonable I might. This is why I feel we should read this is
important. Adam grateful for your and John's coverage of the
Bergdahl affair and the media backlash against the lies
propagated by the quote official channels. However, there are
lies and myths truths on both sides of the story. What
particularly irks me are the stories parading the loss of
soldiers lives during the search for Bergdahl, SSG, Bowen and PFC
Walker were not killed in the search for Bergdahl. We and this
person is saying I was in Comanche company during all of
this. We're providing security in the remote town of deila. For
the Afghan national elections, which were forced in their own
right, village elders were allowed to cast votes for an
entire village at once in a similar vein to the 3/5 rule of
the slave era. Anyway, so g Murphy also have C CEO, oh, that
would be Charlie Company. No, a Comanche company was killed by
an IED on a convoy route, security Overwatch point, again,
not on a mission in support of the Bergdahl search and rescue,
Lieutenant Andrews SSG Curtis and private Martinez Martinez, I
guess were in other companies within the battalion. So I don't
know the details of the missions that led to their death. Still,
it's sickening and lends credence to your thesis on the
Obama administration being set up to fail, that the
circumstances surrounding the deaths of at least three
soldiers are being distorted to fit an agenda. And also also
very valid,
outstanding. And this came through a lot of people that
never listened to the show before should know that we have
a network. Yes, that's quite extensive all over the world.
Yeah.
And so and, and this came through, I believe this to be
authentic. And again, you can always send me encrypted,
encrypted email people like doing that gives them some idea
of and it's through, it comes into my own mail server, so at
least have some idea that they're protected. I did pick up
a soundbite myself, however, from Oliver North, who of
course, he's been known to lie. In fact, it wasn't that his
whole problem.
He was a liar and a loose cannon. Yeah.
But he has a different take on this whole affair, which I
thought, listen, were the
the words prisoner of war, keep being bandied about by this
administration. Yep. Beau Bergdahl was not a prisoner of
war, the unit of the Geneva Conventions, the International
committed Committee of the Red Cross, our own laws define what
a prisoner of war is, Bobo doll was a hostage. I've got
certainly experience dealing with Americans who have been
held hostage. Every one of those kinds of events begins with some
kind of negotiation about a transaction. I understand how it
works. It is a terrible, terrible thing to have to sit
down either directly with the bad people who've got them, or
was intermediaries and decide on the price that's going to be
paid for an American citizen to get free and someone is paid an
enormous ransom, not just the five, which is bad. But worse
yet, someone paid a ransom, whether the Qatari has paid it
or some big oil shake, or somebody used our Petro dollars.
But there was a ransom paid in cash for each one of my guests
somewhere in the round numbers of five or $6 million to get
free. Wow, I know that the offer that was on the table before was
close to a million.
Well, that certainly puts a different perspective on
everything.
Yeah, it's not bad. I give them credit for that one. There's
something else was kind of fishy. Now this is a clip and
the clip is if you wanted to queue it up as missed clip. This
is a I was doing my clips this morning and I was just doing
some archiving and i i found this
some hoarding. Yeah.
A lot of these clips. So I found this at the beginning of it I
don't have the whole clip. I just have a piece of it. And I
as I played it, to cue up the clip I wanted to say by all
there's there was something into This clip that I had missed
twice, because it would have been in the last show. And this
is a, I just found this hole. He's explaining what was going
on preceding the Bergdahl affair. And I just thought you'd
play this clip and then we can just maybe try to dissect
it hundreds of people. And they actually have been training
every six months. They've been meeting and training for a week
for the last five years. That means they've rehearsed this
scenario, including stand ins for the sergeant and his family
at least 10 times now.
Do we know what his daily life will look like? Once he gets to
Texas, that's you can stop it standings. So for the last five
years, at least once every six months,
we've been rehearsing this exchange, they've been
rehearsing the
bringing back to this town, the celebration, oh, really
reintroducing to his parents, all that sort of thing. And who
was this reporting? Well, that was there was on CNN, it was one
of the one of the I can't remember his name, but he's,
he's one of the big voices that was reporting to Anderson
Cooper. And I was just listen to this. I said this so this thing
is like a wag the dog thing. And I again do reminded me of the
Woody Harrelson moment in Wag the Dog where this they bring in
his guys like why, wait a minute, this isn't what we
expected, which is kind of what happened. But they had been
working on this every six months to bring hundreds of people
together, do a fake reuniting with his parents a big part of
town celebration, I just found that to be extremely disturbing.
And it's interesting you say that, because the video,
whenever we go in and we save somebody, there's video. So if
you'll recall, was it Jessica? Or was her name again?
Jessica the captured right female army girl so I
recently was shown the entire video footage by one of the
people who recorded it. Again, this is from our art and it was
shown to me you know, in a air gapped situation, right no
connection to the internet. Right? It was shown to me on
someone else's laptop. And I'm not only that, but I saw the
full capture of Saddam Hussein video as well did a lot of
interesting stuff. But when the whole story behind what was her
name, Jessica, what's her last name?
No, I can't remember. I keep talking about
what really happened there is you know, people the the the
platoon or whatever was out in their trucks and they got
spooked by something. And they started the gun the engine they
ran over a bunch of people killed them then hit the light
post and that's how she wound up in jail in the in the hospital,
Bill Lynch Lynch. And so this video is the full video of them
landing with a helicopter, then it's all the you know, the night
vision stuff, and they just walk into the hospital. Everyone's
like, hey, you know, she's over here. You know, she's like,
okay, hey, how you doing it, everything's really cool and
calm people like, oh, you you come together. And they load her
up on the gurney and they walk her out. In fact, there's a
certain point in the video that that did make it into the news
footage, where one of the guy holding the gurney walking
backwards up the ramp into the helicopter. He fall he stumbles
and almost drops her and that apparently has been like one of
the most the funniest things in the amongst the brigade or
whatever you call it, like oh, do your says you douchebag you
almost dropped her and but the whole thing is that it was it
was not like some crazy like they were going under fired.
They landed right? Why?
The American public it was like they were just they rescued her.
Yeah. I in fact, there were some stories that came out much
later. Like the Toronto Star I'm looking at one here says the fog
of war. Beak says the real the real Saving Private Lynch story.
Iraqi medical staff tells a different story than US
military. We all became friends with her. We liked her so much,
Ken, that this this is the kind of thing that is just going on
constantly. We don't know what they were planning for this
Bergdahl character but they were rehearsing it, I guess for five
years. So
So there's so there's my where my question was going to come
from? How come we didn't see another one of the videos that
are made these videos are made whenever they do something like
this, they're videoing that Case in point, we have all this video
from previous rescues, right? Why was this video from the
other side? Why was it you know, why was it apparently Tali bond
video?
Do we know it? Yeah, well, that's what we're told.
Well, it could be anybody's video could be rehearsal footage
for all we know, it could be. Jeez, I know
the word of I mean, I think this whole thing you know, if they're
rehearsing the the meeting with the parents and the celebration
in the little town, I made it for six months every six months
with 100 people or more. You can't trust any of this coverage
at all. It's just it's embarrassing.
I know film directors that are jealous of that budget boy, we
can rehearse for five years every six months with 100
people. Here's a rehearse, with choppers. Wow. With choppers and
AKs and everything.
Yeah, well, it's very distressing. But that's why we
do this show. Yeah. Well,
I find that an interesting and interesting point there for
sure, but I don't think we'll ever really know that but it's
being politicised, that's for sure.
That yes, for sure. They all sighs they'll have their little
edge I mean, you get to watch in fact, if the one of the things I
hate I hate to tell you this, I'm gonna go into it because
it's segways I ended up watching watching Al Sharpton. Wait, just
make a million dollars or more to do this show.
No, no, no, no, no, no, you're not going to do that to me.
Now here we go. No,
no real conference.
Now he is all in on the Obama story about Bergdahl. And he
thinks the Republicans are a bunch of a holes for condemning
him because we can't leave anyone behind. You know, you
know, the same memes that we've talked about. But you've got to
just a couple of things. One this this woman from salon
magazine is on the at the table with him and she keeps any she
references him as Rev.
Ramp, as in cars. Yeah, Rev. Alright, Rev. Okay, nice.
Now, I have one today for Eclipse a sharp 10 but the one
we'll start with which is the one moaning and groaning about
the prisoner. I want you to listen to this clip Sharpton on
prisoner. And when he says it's a it's a you'll just play it.
Joan, I think it's important that despite all of that, that
he was still being held captive. I don't know what's right or
wrong. But he was a captain. And when they came and got him, he
cried and went home. I mean, they this is not a shutting dry.
All kinds of situations. right wingers raising as the President
said he was out we had to
go get shut and dry the saying shut and dry. Right. You know,
there should be a whole dictionary for this guy. Shut
and dry. What would the actual quote be? Cut and dry hot and
dry? Yes cut and dry wood shot
I don't know what the shot comes from. He's obviously combined is
called a mixed metaphor of course. skillets. Here is a
sharp tins a series of any babbles he just he can't even
put a sentence together. Because that doesn't mean I can pay that
kind of money. I'm not an MSNBC Sharpton series with Joan Walsh.
calls him rad Rev. Girl.
Absolutely. And you know, Wes is right. It's very moving. When
you think about what what was done to break to bring him back.
I mean, are we going to suddenly have a standard where
journalists and pundits and Bill Kristol get to decide whether
your character is such that we ought to go get you read if
you're if you're captured in the field of battle,
and the field of battle with our sacred duty? Rev.
Rev. As we call it from now on read, you know, I just as first
name I think, you know, it's probably makes more sense. Why
do you think named McNett when you have another child named him
anyone out there? Right can rev.
Just Rev. Just Rev. Rev. Just Rev.
Oh, yeah. We got we watched a NASCAR.
Yeah. So it almost it seems like looking at a broader overview.
Maybe all of this was just meant to create this patriotic
conversation. You know what I mean? Maybe because that's what
it comes down to the our sacred duty, all about our patriotic
Tammela sacred
duty and all these sorts of things about no man left behind
and all the rest of all these why these veterans are dying in
the waiting lines. Yeah, it's just it's the irony of using
this to obfuscate the other problem is just too funny. And
we
got a guy in Mexico in jail. We've got a guy still in Cuba, I
think, right? Isn't our sacred duty sacred duty to get that guy
to Mexico? Am I not isn't Guantanamo Bay. Isn't that like,
in Cuba? Yes, it is. So why don't we just walk across the
street?
You can't you can't get it's kind of the accounts
and how silly is that? This whole idea that Cuba is evil and
you know, we you get special special paperwork, if you ever
even want to consider going there and they're suppressing
their people, but yet we have a base on Cuba.
Well, that's actually our territory that was leased and
it's is this
Oh, let me get As from the Cubans, but it
was long before it was an old deal. It's like Hong Kong being
not part of China until 1997. In you know, and then they gave it
away,
essentially. Yeah, but still, these walls go get the guy. That
is that our sacred duty.
That's our sacred duty. I don't know why they don't do something
about it.
Mr. Saar sacred oath. Give me more Sharpton.
Okay, now Sharpton, which is we're on Sharpton. Sharpton
decides to go after the school and actually play this new new
clip and get that out of the way.
And we won't end the war and leave you over there. I mean,
we're winding down. Oh, are we saying the Bergdahl and his
family All right, we're winding it down. Everything's over and
you're on your own. You're on your own. Yeah, we're just gonna
leave you there. But it didn't take long for some of the right
to start comparing this to Benghazi to connect the dots on
their conspiracy. Things to criticise former Republican
Governor John Sununu weighed in and then Congressman Buck McKeon
Ghazi Benghazi Benghazi
I get here here's one more sharpening clip you got to play
this was on the other came. I could play these all day long.
Okay, sharp and dealing with facts
have different facts. President Bush released more detainees
from get low than President Obama. But it's just a fact. 532
detainees were released from Guantanamo under President Bush
87 had been released under President Obama. The right wing
is acting like there's no precedent for this. President
Kenton. I mean, let's just deal with the facts and the numbers
as they are depressing
it's a precedent for that I got me a precedent man this guy is
just unbelievable.
He's what he doesn't say is that you know Bush led out over 500
and Obama set out 85 But Obama is the one who promised to close
the place down Yeah, and but he's you know, he's this guy is
the worst I think broadcaster I've ever seen in my life.
The only thing that's irksome to us is that he's making so much
money doing it. Well. On the other hand, on the other hand, I
will say one zero sum game so it's not coming out of our
pocket what
a thankless place to be
Oh, he also here's another kind of silly one. This is a short
clip because Sharpton start both start with a B listen to this
one. Okay.
I mean, Benghazi for his birthday, they don't start with
I think that's I think that's what it is. I'm mad is I didn't
figure it out.
Who is who is that the woman from salon? Yeah, that's what he
needs. And if I were running MSNBC, first of all, they'd have
right kick. Yeah, yes. He needs someone like a morning show.
Female sidekick. And she needs to be super super cracker white.
Yeah. Correction woman. Yes. She actually was doing a good mood.
Just listen to it again. It sounded like a morning zoo show
right there.
I mean, Benghazi. For his birthday. They don't start with
I think that's I think that's what it is.
Bang on the drum all day long to do with revenue. No contract.
That should be what she does have apparently a job as a
political analyst. A little all she says on this shows. Yeah,
yeah. Rev. Yeah.
That's sesame street level. You know, when someone says to you,
they both start with the letter B. Yeah.
Yeah, no, I think we should make her a regular on the show. She's
always smiling and she's always nodding in agreement with it.
Whatever he says she does. She must feel a little like an
idiot. Because this guy is saying things like press it but
she doesn't care because she's on TV. You see, when you move
from the salon, this is the big deal. People love this. And she
does it for free. Believe me. That's all starts with A be the
answer. I'm going to be on TV should be tweeting it. Yeah, I'm
gonna be on the ram show today. Hey, MSNBC. Altena you can
watch.
Now there was one other segment that had nothing to do with
Benghazi or Bergdahl or anything else. It starts with a B, but
there's a school lunch they had a school lunch expert Come on,
and this is he did this bid to defend Michelle Obama because
what she wants to do with school lunches is being rejected by the
evil Republicans. And so they show a school lunch today I have
to kind of explain to you what, what they did. After they if you
play this clip, which is a little longer they show us the
traditional so supposedly traditional school lunch when I
was a kid and we had school lunches. This is not what they
fed us but this is like apparently they feed some people
how
much wasn't milk What was your your milk money? How much was
that when you went to school nickel breed now how can that
be? I had four it was four cents for me. It was a nickel. Weird.
It was four and I know I'm younger than you. Yeah, it was
four cents. And because my mom would put them in a plastic bag
for pennies, and it would be the little triangle of milk that you
had little triangle pattern.
Oh, we had these little small cartons.
Ah, how cute was that? You put in a little baggie for me my
milk money. All right, I'm sorry. I'm falling up on it. I'm
gonna try not to
oh, let's go here to the table for me because I want to show
some table in front of us. We have an example of these school
lunches and what was used and what they used to look like and
how the programme is trying to improve them. Let's look at
grade one. This is what a typical lunch menu used to look
like. A slice of pizza, can pineapples, some french fries,
ketchup and a cup of chocolate milk. This adds up to 750
calories. 26 grammes of fat over 1200 milligrammes of sodium,
that's a lot of salt and 42 grammes of sugar. And I thought
I'll show what Karen would want the kids eating this job.
I mean, I have a couple of kids. So I have three children. And
wait, who's the Who's Who's, who's this?
This is some expert.
I don't feel he's an expert because he has a couple of kids.
Yeah, that's the joke at all. You have a much healthier plate
here.
Now let's look at here we are. This is what we would get with
the first ladies this is after the implementation slice of
whole wheat pizza. Some baked sweet potato fries. Great.
Tomatoes. With low fat ranch dip applesauce some low
ma'am is young but super day for us at the school lunch was
sloppy joe day.
That was the day at that time. Yes. slob. Sonya we had Pete we
had spaghetti
lasagna spaghetti Boschetti which also starts with a B now
well, there's more to this clip. So we just continue
to play the rest of the but I want to explain what you were
actually seeing the Fed note when you want to do that now or
we're playing it? Well actually, we could do it now. Let's do we
have the two plates. Now the President's Michels plate
consists of the same same pizza only made with whole wheat
dough. Okay, maybe that's still pizza. Yeah. But instead of
having french fries and ketchup, which is what the other plate
had, and the ketchup was there as for the French fries
obviously for kids that dipped a prize in the ketchup although
Sharpton can contends it was there as a vegetable because you
remember
that? Yes. Yeah, tomato ketchup as a vegetable. Yeah.
So that that's replaced with deep fat fried sweet potatoes,
which is a product I'm telling you 90% of the kids in America
outside of the South will not eat really French fried sweet
potatoes French fried yams are very unacceptable but they're
super tasty. They're there they don't have the right texture
they're not French fries. I'm telling you nobody wants to eat
you said it You nailed it on the head right there. And I've never
had my daughter started with this I don't think I ever had
this as a kid. But texture is such a that's there's something
with the the programming that has gone into our kids heads
probably through advertising. Texture is very it's more
important than taste than anything else. texture size
dimensions. And you're right when you look at a french fry it
it's like apples you know you go to the tomatoes you go to the
market here we get our heirloom tomatoes you know they look like
they got the plague you know there's no kids will eat those.
And that night and it's really weird texture though. I don't
like the texture. What does that mean?
They just don't like the way it feels in their mouth. mouthfeel
would be a kind of Mr. Mays way of putting it in anyway. So they
have these nobodies you need these fries? And then they have
instead of the canned pineapples, which is all where
all that sugar comes from in the other meal. Yeah, you know, Joe,
how about fresh pineapple? There's a million things to do.
Yeah, how
about pineapple? Just pineapple just putting pineapple cut it
up.
They can't it's too much work. And the other one is got apple
sauce. Now I don't know about you but eating eating fried yams
and a pizza on crap bread with apple sauce is not a combination
that has any appeal in anybody's universe but okay, but the
president but Michelle said it was better and then they have in
they have a
way stop stop sometime. It's all coming back to me. Did you ever
have to know our King Day?
No, but I've had we had tuna at tuna Allah
king what Is this gooey mixture of tuna with
goop and peas? Actually, it's two innovation male and peas.
Yeah,
but what would you say? beychevelle?
It's a beychevelle Essentially it's flour and it's gooey is
Gulin
Yeah. And it would be on a piece of toast right and that will we
would call it SOS shit on shit on a shame right
which traditionally is chip beef. Yeah, but
that when we younger generation we had no chip beef right? And I
think that was the one time we had to Nala King days when when
we had the food fight probably on Friday someone checked one of
those and I was just all over
me continue my analysis. So there's also of course you sub
II says that ketchup is is is a vegetable is a vegetable. And so
you have on this other plate the Obama plate, a small bowl of
cherry tomatoes and a ranch dressing that these kids I
suppose are supposed to grab the tomato and dip it with with
their pinky finger in their in their ranch.
When I'm getting my ranch dressing.
me Give me a break.
This adds up to just under 500 calories, 14 grammes of fat 1000
milligrammes of sodium 31 grammes of sugar, this still
keeps in France, right, but it's significantly healthier than
when the kids were eating previously. Right, our first
table exactly what do you say to Republicans that have gone
against this? Well, it's really it's nothing about what's on
this plate at all. This is about
taste. Stop, you should play it. But he she derails Sharpton here
by saying it's not about the food anyway, it's about the
deal. The guys doing the food, you can play the rest of it. Or
let me finish this one little tidbit of analysis that he's
bitching about, first of all, where's the vegetables? God,
that's the cattle Obama supposed to be a big time. You know,
we're gonna modernise all she's done is substitute crap for
crap. There is nothing except for the tomatoes, which kids
won't eat, and you can be sure those tomatoes are tasteless,
because that's the only way you can do that sort of thing. Can
I interrupt you for a moment? It's funny, you just said
something very telling you said Michelle Obama was supposed to
be are doing X, Y and Z, correct? Yes. As if she is
actually really doing something.
Well, representing a mind. Ah,
this I picked up from CNN a couple of weeks ago, I've been
saving it. Because I didn't quite know where to fit it in.
This is Carol who of course is my favourite on CNN,
Carol. Nothing is more important than the health and well being
of our children nothing. And our hopes for their future should
drive every single decision that we make.
That was Mrs. Obama back in 2010 when she signed the Healthy
Hunger Free Kids Act and to law.
Oh, really? She signs into law at a great clip. She signs bills
into law these days. Holy crap. Yeah, but that, but it's fun.
It's easy, though. You see how that works? Yeah.
Isn't that crazy? I think it was. Maybe it was subliminal. I
mean, that was in the prompter. She's not making this up.
No, somebody in the prompter. Yeah, somebody wrote it up. And
she read it because she's a prompter reader. And that's what
she signed it in. Excuse me, honey, I'm signing this one.
Over a fat ass over.
Oh, whoa, that was unnecessary.
Well, I mean, he's saying that to Obama, which is he doesn't
have as soon as it's done. I thought that was wife would say
to her husband.
I'm glad I got to play that because I've been saving that
for weeks now. Well, anyway,
so we have the tomatoes and the end of little hoity toity dip.
And you know, which kids aren't going to deal with. They won't
even use that dip. B and they won't eat those tomatoes because
those tomatoes are going to taste like crap. And there's no
real vegetables. Where's the broccoli? Where's the salad?
Where's the asparagus? Where's carrots even? Where's any of
this? It's pizza. And then hey,
how about kale? Just throw some kale in there for good measure.
Who cares?
The other thing was that he mentioned all 1200 grammes of
salt milligrammes of salt he says in the first meal, that's
way too much salt says they'll skinny shocked because he's lost
all this weight. The other one has 1000 It's the differences
like it's, it's it's infinitesimal grammes. 200
milligrammes yeah anyway, it was to me and watching this was was
a farce.
There you go with your French again. Here I go. What would
that John, let me thank you for your courage and I'd like to
wish you a very healthy and hearty in the Morning John C.
Dvorak.
Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry also in the morning
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We have a new phenomenon that just happened on this show
number 624. Okay. Don Tommaso did Toronto, which was he was to
be called is a is the first or first in a hopefully a series of
Insta barons. Whoa. Yeah. A Baron, of course has a 3x night.
Yeah. So he came up with the $3,141.59 out of Toronto.
How does that how does he arrive at that number?
Well, here we go. Bless me, he uses note, bless me Giovanni and
Adamo for I've been a douchebag I was going to write you a long
note about how in a recent business trip, Google Maps
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right. I must be a fascinating guy because for an hour so if
you weren't a Canadian, this probably wouldn't have happened
because you could have gotten into the souvenir shop for an
hour or so they asked me lots of questions often repeated to see
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was lunchtime. So I pulled into a nearby restaurant where I was
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That's toward that's $28 and mac and cheese or $1, a lobster
meat.
I had a salad instead. There was suddenly sirens and a trove of
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there was a situation nearby and we all had to stay put for 30
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shelter in place. All clear citizens you may you may believe
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say something enough, I said obviously these were all signs
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sending money from Canada Navia is a problematic I am resorting
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Keep up the fantastic work you do. And all you douchebags out
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Yeah, no. Oh, oh. That's the challenge laid down. Yeah.
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show numbers for the last year has gotten himself to the point
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I'm all in on the concept of value for value having gotten my
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Wow, that's pretty damn cool.
That was very cool. Meanwhile, Chris Yves out of Tokyo, Japan
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John and Adam, I have been a longtime pre donor height. The
closed amount is a small expression of gratitude for the
many hours of insight and entertainment that you had to
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And some karma. Okay,
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person he played that for knew what the hell the guy was
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I don't know what he's saying. Mostly anyway. Anyway,
Christians with a gun but that couldn't say exactly. Okay.
Anyway, onward pipe. And let's see, let me get the spreadsheet
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Thanks, guys. Sir. Todd,
have you ever? You know, you don't actually dig a well, I
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it's it's continuously pumping water in maybe this just builds
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I want to send out a big thank you to comic strip blogger. He
has. He's done something really cool. He created a JavaScript
thing on the job. And it's now in the show notes. In fact, you
can just go to 623 dot no agenda notes.com for a second, John,
just to check this out. You'll really like this is way cool.
623 dot no agenda. Notes.
Calm. Yeah. You got it? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, now you go to show
notes. The tab there at the top, you see show notes. Right. Now,
do you see it says on page search? Looking at the says no.
search at the top there. But how can you not see it? There's a
big bar. You talked about I thought it was on the list. And
it's at the top there. So just type in like anything you want.
Like Obama is one you could type in boom.
Oh, this is his thing.
Yeah. So this is going through this entire list of show notes.
And then these are all the stories that are nice. And then
you click on show an outline, then it shows you it's kind of
like the Kindle app, which highlights all the
Oh, nice all the internet. Cool. Right? Right. And it pops it
out. Yeah.
So we just very
handy for all you researchers out there who yes, have wisely
especially the students that listen to the show, who have
wisely used the show notes, which have been, I would say
aren't the easiest thing to use? Because we have a lot of them.
Yes. So you had to find stuff may not is non trivial. But now
it's trivial. Yeah.
So if you're looking for something we discussed in the
show, you just type it right in there in the under the show
notes tab and it will pop it up for you. So that's cool. So we
thank him for that. And of course as we thank all of our
executive producers and Associate Executive producers
for their courage and their support of the programme, of
course we'll have a knighting of our fresh Baron later on in the
programme and we'll thank the rest of the producers who came
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good wherever credit credits are accepted. And unlike the
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vora.org/n a man please if you feel so compelled, go out and
propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We go out. We
hit people in the mouth
yay. And, of course, this being the best podcast in universe, we
tried to expose the many ways in which the mainstream even our
national treasures seem to be compromised by their model of
advertising and make no mistake. When someone says the programme
is underwritten by Chucky Cheese, it's just another form
of advertising. The only thing they're not allowed to do is
provide a call to action. But they it's still advertising and
it's sold as advertising. And the wheels are coming off,
although you won't hear a lot about it. But it was very
interesting to see NPR national treasure number one, blowing the
whistle was a wish to show on PBS, our public broadcast
system, which as you may have noticed, also has commercials
every 15 minutes,
they actually interrupt show sometimes. Yeah, they do.
commercials in the beginning in the end, but now they're in the
middle.
And this is what we know is that when you have someone spending a
lot of money on on sponsorship, they just might have some
control. And of course, what you'll always hear from the
public broadcasters is no. That doesn't work that way. So let's
have a listen to this little story as collected on NPR, about
PBS. And our favourites big sponsors of the PBS Koch
brothers.
The issue of money came into play for you and this film, it
was to be backed by a group that makes documentaries very often
for public television. David Koch turned out to be affiliated
with some of those public television groups and your money
ended up being pulled what happened there?
Well, we know when we got greenlit by this public
television entity that David CO is a major donor to PBS PBS. And
he's also on the board of trustees, both of WGBH in
Boston, and of WNET in New York or flagship stations for the
public broadcast network. And so when they are funders that the
independent health Vision Service saw that we were we're
making this film, they supported it, they commissioned it, they
gave us $150,000 in funding and broadcast slot, by the
way. $250,000 for a documentary. Nice,
but then they pulled all that when when they saw that we
decided to name the film Citizen Coke, and we wouldn't change the
name. They also
you expect? story, by the way, this has been floating around
for a little bit. I hadn't heard being reprieved. Ebru praising
it because they're after the Koch brothers, of course. Let's
say let's say okay, Adam, you're I'm a big shot donor and
Charles Dvorak and
donor bestow upon you $150,000. So you can finish your
documentary. Yes.
Thank you very much for that Charles this lovely, I'm going
to call my documentary, JC de la douchebag. Done
what are they expect? This great? Isn't it was great. Well,
she brings it in a little. She doesn't actually say that. The
Koch the Koch brothers pulled it? Oh, no, it's just
coincidence.
The content related to the Cokes? And it was oh, it's the
Cokes? It was really deeply troubling, especially when we
connect the dots and we realised that they were trying to protect
essentially, they were trying to protect the high dollar donors,
no public television this group
I was editorial differences.
Well, that's just not true.
They didn't tell us that. What they told us is that, that the
title of the film would make it rendered onbroad castable. Given
the environment at what does that mean? There's a lot of
interest in the Koch brothers.
Well, what Jane Jane Mayer found out because she did some
investigating on for The New Yorker. Yes. And what she found
out was that the head of WNET in New York was expected was
anticipating a seven figure desktop Stopstopstop
back it up a little bit. But but at the beginning of this, I
noticed this, they went out of their way not to mention it.
Well, we can't really say which they made a big deal out of not
mentioning the specific station that it was going through. Yeah,
now they drop is WNET, yeah, bags
for the New Yorker. And what she found out was that the head of
WNET in New York was expected was anticipating a seven figure
don't dollar, seven figure donation from David Koch at that
time, that that, that we changed the title of our film, and that
the head of the station in New York called this independent
funding agency and threatened them and and threatened to pull
out of this documentary series Independent Lens if they
continue to blindside him. You know, he didn't want to anger
this, this this trustee and major donor. Yeah. Yeah.
I wouldn't either know that business and I'm getting seven
figures from the Koch brothers. And that's not on a on a forever
basis. That's every year, year after year, and you're going to
slam the guy. And I'm going to broadcast that I'm not
broadcasting it, but this is not an idiot. Think. Do these people
making these documentaries? Are they that dumb?
Well, I doubt that it was this was set up specifically to make
the Koch brothers look stupid as is often done by these these you
bronies. But it does just prove.
Well, wait, but before you go on that let me just quick thought I
believe amongst the community of public broadcasting, folks,
everybody knows the Koch brothers are huge donors to
Public Broadcasting. And if you're not if you're not aware
of this, I'm this is my kind of thought on this, if you're not
aware of that, what are you doing? And so far why I don't
trust your documentary, you're obviously a moron. So this
documentary is got to be slanted if you don't know these basic
facts, because you don't know what the hell's going on,
apparently. So
by the same token, we could presume and this is the only
point I'll make about it. That if the Monsanto Corporation
provides a grant every year, year in year out, while they're
waiting for the next grant, maybe they won't do a whole
piece on Monsanto.
That would be my guess,
or the Boeing corporation or Archer Daniel Midlands, or, or
the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, or the Warren
Buffett things,
right? Yeah, no, you're not gonna do anything, any of those
things. And that list is bigger and bigger. It's almost like an
extortion racket. You know, you're not this there, you know,
that we might be. We had nothing else to work on. Because all
these other guys are all in
here. I notice you're not on the list this this month.
Yeah, I think maybe a little might do a little work on that.
Yeah, sounds like an extortion racket. That's the problem with
with all these commercial operations.
Yep. Which is the beauty of our model. Now, of course, we're not
getting any seven figure donations. But no, we're getting
by. We're doing
we're getting by. And I think it's a
every single day I wake up, John, I don't know about you.
But I wake up and I'm like, I'm almost 50 I get to work from
home. I work a lot. But I get to do what the people asked me to
do. I'm very happy.
Yeah, you're not beholding
No. Oh, that's the, you know, what was it?
Really, you've been in commercial broadcasting. I mean,
I've been in and out of it. But I've always been a writer. But
at the same time, when you're a writer, you also have these
obligations, even though nobody talks about it. But you know,
write certain things that, you know, it's going to offend the
hell out of somebody ever. Ever. But when you're not beholding to
advertisers, and this is why people really have to understand
why it's important to
maybe maybe it's time to maybe it's time to talk about my
Michael Jackson story. We haven't done that in a while.
Yeah, I think there's a lot of new listeners that don't know
about this.
Okay. And by the way, you know, I'd like to report that said
that today. The now we know that thanks, of course, in no small
part to Justin Timberlake, who was also picking off the corpse.
That to Michael Jackson, who reportedly and I always said
this was bullcrap was a half billion dollars in debt before
he was killed. Make no mistake, he was killed. His doctor was
convicted of involuntary manslaughter so he was killed.
In fact, fact pattern, but I'm pretty sure that there were a
lot more people involved and he was worth more dead than alive
and lo and behold, looks like there's about a billion and a
half being made on his new work is a back catalogue. And there's
no annoying artists in the middle. Yeah, we got Justin
Timberlake to do it with a hologram. That's fantastic.
Justin will do anything. He's a good boy, Justin. So when I was
at Playboy, he knows how to play the game. I was sad kind of when
I saw this Justin Timberlake like Justin Timberlake, I don't
like him anymore. He's off the list. He's voted off the island.
So when I was at MTV, and we would While none of this was
rarely was anything live, we would take segments and on
Thursday we would take for the weekend that would be called a
48. So we take our segments which is essentially the lead
ins the intros and the outros the videos without the videos,
and that would be put together later by the tape jockeys up on
Long Island they'd literally start a pneumatic with my
segment and then start the second pneumatic with the video.
And this was the we had made a deal of this is how it went made
a deal we would give Michael Jackson the planet we would
receive the planetary premiere of I can't remember which video
it was. This became competitive because we had not purchased b e
t at the time and B E T. You know, they would they would you
know, whoever could dedicate more airtime you know, is this a
commercial deal commercial deals. And then we threw in like
a Video Music Award appearance, all this stuff. And so it was
Michael Jackson weekend for the planetary premiere of whatever
video. And so you work a full day from nine in the morning
till five at night and you're doing segments throughout the
day is a lot of coordination. There's changes a bit. Yeah,
like my life was really hard being a VJ. But it was no actual
work. And then Friday, we would typically only do a 24 which
should be for Mondays. Err. And Thursday evening, we all got a
call oh my god, we you have to come back early. We've got to do
three days worth the programming on Friday. So not just the 48
we've got to do the you know, the the Monday as well, we've
got to redo the whole weekend. Because contractually, we had
promised every single time we said Michael Jackson to follow
it by the King of Pop. And of course, that had not made it
down to the studio. So we had to go back and re tape every single
segment saying and now it's time for the planetary premiere of
Michael Jackson, the King of Pop with his new video. And that's
how it works. That's how he completely controlled
King of King of cute. So let's let's just get this out of the
way. What was with the hair that you had there? Did you where did
that idea come from?
My ex wife. It was okay. And it made me famous.
It was a toy. Yeah, the hair you see because you had the hair.
Luckily, you had the kind of hair that could do that with
that hair as
well. When you have enough Aqua net, which is what we had in the
day. You could probably anybody can make that hair. I just have
to grow it long enough. blow dried and tease it.
But did you go into makeup every day in the morning? Yeah, my
ex wife would do that every single morning before I left the
house. She would do my hair I was incapable of doing my hair
myself. Which made me it made me a slave to her and to the hair.
I'm not kidding. I was afraid to go anywhere without her because
how would I how I couldn't do my hair. This is no joke by the
way. It's funny that sad is what it is. It's sad. Sad, but
however if it looks distinctive, according to The Merv Gryphon,
theory of celebrities, people with big heads are successful on
television. And he would no look at the people he's hired and
look at people who are successful in television if they
got a big head and that usually goes with a small body. Then you
are going to be successful.
Al Sharpton. There you go. It's like a head on a dwarf.
So I have a normal size nice size head. But the hair made my
whole head aura look big and therefore successful.
Well, it was definitely a sight to like, whoa.
Thanks. You know what? I still have my hair.
Yeah, I know you do. I think you should be happy.
Yes, I every bald guys out there. Yeah. And those are the
ones that usually bitch about my hair. How are you doing?
My hair is still here thinning a little bit on the tiny hairs all
we know but my hair has always been. It's like I got baby fine
hair. It's
you should you should pray to the hair Gods every day and go
ha Thank you.
And apparently when you get to beef once you get to be 55
Letterman talked about this because he's he has really weird
hair. He says once you get to be 55 According to his hair expert,
that's the hair you're going to have. You're not going to rest
of your life. You don't lose it. Yeah, you're just just you know,
you get little maybe it gets a little cool, crappier looking
because you don't comb it anymore, but you don't care. But
it's about it. You're stuck. So you have it. So if you're bald,
do you get bald before then?
Where were we onward to Europe.
What you'd like you here's the problem. Luckily, there's two of
us. You began to segue with the Michael Jackson on CNN thing you
were going to talk about that then you got some I tracked and
I did I took your way off the rails with the hare story. You
are going to talk about how you because we're talking about
we're discussing corruption in the media you went on. Yeah. And
then I told this clip you got to play the clip and set it up.
No, I put no Oh, you mean the No, I'm not gonna play that
clip.
Yeah, that's that's what I thought the whole segment was
about you want me to play that clip? That they cut you off? No,
no, the snow the segment was corruption of the media where I
had to go back and, and re tape everything. You want me to play
the thing? Michael Jackson in that clip? No, that clip is
sucks because it's really long and we're stuck. Now that clip
is no good. Okay,
well, we get by popular demand. Anyone who donates $50 In the
next year,
but I'll have to cut it down. No, no, no, no. Onward to
Europe. Now as I was saying, okay. Okay, so we have a real
problem here. About who now as you know, we have our haiku
Herman currently the president there of the United States of
Europe. I'm paraphrasing his job. And we need a new one. And
this of course, the Europeans, the citizens don't get to vote
on the president. Oh, no. No, it's chosen by some secret
ballot, which they think is actually good. They think it's
the right way to do it is secretly strangely enough. Okay.
Now we know John Claude Juncker is is was a front runner,
Juncker Juncker was a front runner. It doesn't look like he
is the Well, the problem that propped up is the UK doesn't
want him they do not want this banker, this Federalist guy
telling them what to do and being in charge of anything if
he if that position holds any power. And then Christine
Lagarde cropped up as a likely candidate. This was probably
her. Well, yes, a lawyer really more than banker but she is
currently the head of the IMF, and she did something that was
unexpected Managing
Director of the International Monetary Fund. Christine Lagarde
has ruled herself out as a potential candidate for the job
of European Commission president. She wants to finish
her term in charge of the IMF
to candidate and the reason I'm not a candidate is that I have a
job and which I intend to complete a job as my young son
would have said Mum, when you start something you've got to
finish the job. John Claude
Juncker is considered the front runner, but Britain's David
Cameron has made it clear he opposes him. The leaders of
Sweden, Hungary and Italy have also voiced doubts. Some
analysts even expected Juncker to pull out of the race after
support from Germany's Angela Merkel cools Hello. Thank you.
European leaders have given themselves until late June to
reach a deal on the top position.
Okay. Now. Of course, Christine has no time for this because she
is busy raping Greece annually. The they just put the Athens
Riviera into the privatisation agency. This is what they did
with the East Berlin when when that whole thing came down when
the wall came down. So you have this Greek privatisation agency,
which the IMF and the European Central Bank and the European
Commission the Troika, as is known have forced Greece to do
things like this like taking assets, including the Attica
coastline which goes from it's like from from the east to the
west. It's like the whole coastline has been transferred
to the Hellenic Republic Asset Development Fund. Hey, that was
great. All right. Now here's what here's what you can buy a
176 acres of land which lies between the sports complex adios
Cosmas which is opposite of the old Athens airport 20 acres of
land in Gliffy Glyfada 383 acres of land in the southern part
they have soon is it soon I think
what is the You Can Do you have prices or you just have no
they haven't set the prices? Yeah, I think it goes by it's
like a I think it's a bidding process. There's also a ski
resort, the pronounces mountains.
Usually if you're gonna dump a bunch of property like not just
a little but a lot L at once the end doing over bids, you can get
some deals,
essentially it's the beach if you've ever been to the
Gateway site, the California coast
is just amazing. It completely raping them. And of course this
is this even isn't even discussed in Europe anymore.
People are so we get reports are our friends in in the
Netherlands for people are not happy.
What is really going to do about it?
And the thing, the health insurance in the Netherlands,
you know, they had the they basically in the Netherlands,
they went from a complete what single payer system to,
essentially a version of Obamacare. And now they've made
changes once again, starting in 2016. health insurers will no
longer have to pay towards the cost of treatment in hospitals
and providers, which they don't have a contract with them. So
now you say HMO model, yeah, HMO model. So that's great. But I do
want to just raise the worst. I did just want to of course not.
It's horrible. And then the Netherlands had a great system.
No, actually single payer works if it's if it's tightly
controlled, but the people that don't like it are the drug
companies. Well, and the insurance companies. Well, the
insurance companies aren't cut out of the deal. That's the
Yeah, they hate it, too.
So anyway, we need to choose a president of Europe. And I'm
thinking I have some ideas for this.
Oh, this is where you're good. I am you now nailed the Pope. Out
of the blue. This is a show long time he actually nailed the pope
by name chosen by name. Blue months before
you do know I'm a time traveller.
Yeah, you're from the future. So future tell us Yeah. And you
just couch it in these entertaining ways? Yes.
That's right. I just bumble around just to throw you off
track. Now, historically speaking, we know that the
President of Europe has to be a moron. Case in point.
Okay, exactly. Right. That's true. I agree with that.
And I think they did very well with haiku. Herman just the guy
who can just be silly, you know, hasn't has
yet to look silly here. All that's missing is a red clown
nose and a bite. Yeah, just do the bow tie that spin the way to
do it.
Now. So Christine Lagarde is there's no way she is right for
that job because she's sharp, sharp as a tack that woman too
smart, too is way way overqualified for the job of
moron head of state. But I think it needs to be a woman. This and
remember, I'm from the future. So I think you're right, I
think no, but I think that you're on the right track with
your thought process. And I'm going to
tell you who my number one candidate is. Okay. Hello,
Thorning Schmidt.
Hallett now she's been we've talked about her before
Prime Minister of Denmark the selfie girl.
Selfie. Well, now it's now ha ha.
I have a number two candidate but she's my number one.
I think she even though she's older. She's very she's an
attractive woman. I don't think he's dumb.
Because you know, she's done. Yeah, she could be done because
you know, she was walking up to was Sarah Jessica Parker like,
Hey, I run in this country. Can I do a selfie with you? She's
dumb.
Okay, she's dumb. She qualifies there.
We could put a spin on bowtie.
That's what I'm thinking. Well,
then there's dolly grip bow. Skite. The president of
Lithuania.
Well, that's interesting. Well, she
she but she looks a little too Stern. And I think she might
have her shit together. So I'm a little worried about her. I
think Hala is perfect because she's a known figure. She's,
she's cute. I mean, that's I think that's a plus. She's not.
She's not horribly horrible look, and she speaks to her
languages. I don't know if she speaks French, which would be
kind of a prerequisite. But she would be a perfect puppet.
Remember? I'm from the future now. John. What'd you think of
Dahlia?
I can't find her. How do you spell her last name?
Oh, golf Romeo, Yankee Bravo Alpha uniform, Sierra kilo,
alpha India Tango echo.
I got got GRYBAUSKIA
i te bow. Skite girbau skate.
Now there she is. Yeah, yeah. Do you think I'm okay. I would be
in on this one. Do you think she just has that? I don't think she
looks Stern. She has a stern look. But most of the time she
just looks kind of like a little bit of Down syndrome. With nice
hair cut. Just a little bit. I'm not I'm not saying anything.
Yeah, yeah. You think her? Well, I don't wouldn't like to see her
a lot. I think
Hello. It would be great. Hello. Elisa track. Yeah. But she would
she would do funny things. It would be great for the show. I
think she may be I think she will be especially
if she's in the selfies.
Yeah. Oh man, can you imagine it'd be so great for
the show? Dale? Yeah, here's the problem. He's okay. I
think you're right. Her husband is a super banker. I think he
says, Oh, that's perfect. Yeah, it
was a nightmare in 2009. This is the dahlias. She was vice
president of Foreign Affairs Minister of Finance it also
European Commissioner for financial progress.
Oh, wait, no, she's way too smart. We can't have her
for in 2004. She also is referred to as the iron lady
goes Steel Magnolia.
We can't have that. We need to we've already
got a miracle. Yeah, another one of those. Sorry,
let's let me take a look at Hello Thorning Schmidt and
thinker. I think her husband is a super banker. Let me say amen.
Hello, Thorning Schmidt, Wikipedia. No, she's only
marginally QB now, in a MILFy kind of way. Let's see. Danish
politician. Baba. Where's her husband? Where's her husband?
He's social democrat. That's good. You know when she got
sick? That's the right you got the right thing going on there.
Oh, fluent English and French. Hello. fluent French. And
English. That'll do it. That will do it. Personal life
married to Stephen Kinnock. Oh, daughter in law to Neil Kinnock.
She's former leader of the Labour Party. Hello. She's
perfect. She's royalty Oh, yeah. Now she's good. She's perfect.
I'm telling you.
All right. Well, I mean, would she take the job? That's another
thing. Oh, in a heartbeat. Ha. Are you kidding me to another
word she's all in on the EU experiment Talia
and her husband doesn't they don't even live together which
is I'm not condemning it, but it just serve as
a member of the European Parliament from Denmark from 99
to 2014. She's part of the the system group, but she knows the
system Danish Parliament. 2005 She'd like to replace as leader
of social democrats blah, blah, blah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay,
well, that's what we're we're pushing her now.
I think you know what, she's uniquely qualified to run the
EU? Yes. All she needs is the spinning bow tie.
The spinning bow tie would be there.
Ah, just remember, I'm from the future.
That's really okay. We'll go with this call. Although, you
know, we never heard of this other cared. The guy running it
now. This haiku. Herman I mean, it's possible some obscure
person we've never heard of who get this position happening in
the past.
But hold on this. This whole structure is new. I mean, wasn't
he the first guy wouldn't this would be the second maybe I
mean, who was before him see
the structure? I can't do that because they have councils and
this and that council have that and it doesn't matter. It's you
know, insulin.
It's just the Alright, we'll see.
Sir, European news for the day. Well, not
entirely. Oh, well, there's one thing I know that you don't you
you don't you're not on my side of the fence on this. This is
the SDR fence.
No, yeah, you're in the SDR.
Yeah, well, the I keep I look, someone's got to follow this
stuff. And there is the theory out there that there's a global
cabal working on removing the petro dollar and replacing it
with the SDR. And actually it was Christine Lagarde who said
just the other day, I don't have a sound clip of it. She said,
Well, you know, the way things are going, the headquarters of
the IMF might have to be in Beijing, which is kind of a slap
for her to say that, but okay. And that is obviously because
the IMF at the brick, the bricks are getting antsy with the IMF
2010 reforms not being ratified by the United States. And so
they're pushing to do their own system, whatever. But following
the money, and this is from Reuters. As you know, the
quantitative easing is being tapered in the United States,
which of course, will affect the market and our economy. And I
guess inflation rates are something we'll have to see. But
what's been happening to treasuries is very interesting.
It turns out there's this outfit in Belgium called Euro clear.
And Euro clear is, it's a clearing house, but it is buying
up. Let's see US Treasuries. They just bought up another 40
point 2 billion over the past five months. Belgium because
it's in Belgium, Belgium's net ownership of the United States
treasuries has increased to $201.1 billion and this is a
country that only has a GDP of 450. So the question is who is
euro clear? And who's behind them? Well, we don't know their
clearing house. So it's probably, you know, the US that
is behind it buying our own debt. But this is debt that is
being sold off by Russia by the Chinese by the Japanese and
being purchased by Belgium of all places.
But Euro clear is a Belgian based operation. Yes.
Okay. But they are just a, in fact, they used to be, if you go
back to the 90s Euro clear was a JP Morgan, bank, or outfit
that was founded by JP Morgan in 1968. There you go. So it's not
new.
Right. But they've been buying up a lot of US Treasuries.
Let's keep that the interest rate way down. It's been
working, you know, people always moan and groan about all this,
you know, printing money, quote, unquote, when it's, you know,
kind of it's printing virtual money, says most of this is not
like cash being printed. And it is really, I think it's one of
the it's one of the great tricks,
no disagreement there
that has cropped up the kept us from a Great Depression.
Right, but it can't go on to cave in on it. It seems like it
can't go on forever.
It won't. But it'll be very similar to what happened in
1857. And what happened in 1857, the first official true American
depression.
And how bad was that? Well, it
only lasted a couple of years. I mean, the Great Depression,
which was during the Roosevelt administration would because it
was a lot of it was mishandled lasted a probably up close to a
decade, most people believe or, you know, kind of a decade since
the initial crash of 29. The big depression that happened in
1857, which is the which triggered a number of things,
the main thing I believe it triggered was books about it.
Were a bunch of books. This happened in the 70s, there was
all kinds of books that came out, oh, we're gonna all die.
And there's mostly naysaying books trying to analyse what
happened in 1857, when the economy collapsed, it was so
bad, it was considered the first the worst depression we've ever
had. And I think it lasted about two, three years max to about
18. At 1868, things changed because we had the war. But it
was it generated all these books. And there, most of these
books are still around, they've been scanned, some of them are
still available, and you can read through them. And they have
all this analysis of why this happened. And my favourite
analysis because I've read a lot of these books. My favourite
analysis because they had a laundry list of well, how why
did this happen? Was too much gold. Really? Yeah. And that is
the equivalent to me, at least of the of the way we're printing
money is this equivalent of gold, because it back then there
was a gold rush from 918 49 on and pay there was like something
like $3 trillion or $15 trillion of today's money pumped into the
economy. But people walking down the street and find essentially
finding money is equivalent and putting it into circulation,
which is the same to me as printing money. And it was too
much of it where there was just too much gold in the system and
it just collapsed economy. That's one of the Theses you
know what you should do?
Don't want to hear it. Man, I'm not listening.
You should write a book about the subject.
All right. Alright, enough of that. Lots of links in the show
notes under the heading SDR if you're inclined, I don't have I
mean, I'm just pointing this stuff out. I don't really have
any. Any proof of anything. Now we'll see. I
mean, the proofs in the pudding as it were, you know, it did
happen.
Last night, Friday night. was a Friday. I think so. Yeah. Miss
Mickey and I sat down to watch some oranges, the New Black.
Yeah. Before you go on, Mimi, coincidentally, decided to start
watching. Orange is the New Black and I'm going to tell you
this in advance. So you don't dig yourself into a horrible
pit. I said to her while you're going to watch that, that I've
tried to watch it sucks. And she said no. She says men won't like
it because it's a total chick series. And she mentioned that
there's a lot of these chick oriented shows like girls is one
of them. She claims written by women, produced by women
starring Women for Women. Uh huh. Okay, that's the I just
want to put that out. Put that out there. Well, did you enjoy
it?
Well, as you know, John, I am not just a man Can
somebody give me an appletini now I saw the first series
enjoyed very much, particularly for the realistic portrayal of
hot lesbian sex by cute chicks. This, if you have not tuned in
or on episode four of season one, that's, that's some that's
some better than Tumblr. And I know me some Tumblr. Now we saw
two episodes, but for the first time, interestingly enough, and
we have Comcast, no, we have Time Warner here. I'm sorry.
Same thing. Not yet. There will be well no,
not when it comes to the peering arrangements. We had. Very
interesting how this worked very interesting. I believe it to be
a total farce bullcrap propaganda move on Netflix as
part, we would start it up at 25%. And I, we use a Roku at 25%
it would hang loading it would hang and then it would dump out
to a screen saying we cannot show you this particular piece
of content right now. Please try again later, or play something
else. And then I'd select something else it would play
just fine.
Ah, which of course it is. Bowl crap.
Thank you very much. And
total behind the equal bits. It should be Netflix.
Well, it so this is Netflix throwing this up. Yeah. And now
I don't have Verizon as you as I said, we have Time Warner. But
Verizon was getting a different message. And I just want you
probably saw this just wanted to play this for a second. This is
from Bloomberg. Not just for the story, but also for an
interesting new phrase Cable Internet
Service Provider first load streaming or buffering demanding
evidence substantiating Netflix's assertions within five
days. And Verizon says there's no basis to solely blame it for
its playback issues. But there's a range of factors and Netflix
relies on quote, a panoply of content distribution, and other
middleman networks to reach his customers trying to lower its
cost as much as possible. The cost quality trade off is one
Netflix has chosen. Netflix responding, quote, this is about
consumers not getting what they paid for from their broadband
provider. We're trying to provide more transparency, just
like we did with the ISP speed index. And Verizon is trying to
shut down that discussion.
Now we don't need to have the the entire conversation again
about packet inequality. But I did want to point out I liked
the word, monopoly, monopoly panoply, panoply. Okay, have you
do you know what this word means? You know, I, I used to
panoply it means an impressive amount of which is I thought was
kind of cool. That can a splendid or striking array of
panoply of colourful flag panoply? It's a good word.
Yeah, a panoply of paparazzi. Nobody knows what it means. But
well, but good sounding words. It sounds very good. And it has
a nice definition that I wanted
to point out one angle of this conversation that is not brought
up enough, if at all. Are you on twit today? No. Oh, good. Then I
can go out for a walk with Mickey. Okay. So part of the
problem? I think we have discussed it briefly, but it's
not brought up enough is streaming. Why does this have to
be streaming? In fact, podcasting? The idea, I had the
Dave Weiner incorporated into the enclosure of RSS was
download, make available, download and play. Yes, download
in the background. So you don't even know it and then play this,
this could and caching and there's a million ways this
could be fixed. But because of the licencing. That is why it
has to be streamed, you see, it can't be stored on on an on an
ISPs, internal servers, it all has to be streamed. And this is,
if anything, I would say Netflix is in violation of good network
etiquette by constantly forcing end users to start up a new
stream. And that is purely because of their licencing
model. There is no reason technically that it has to work
this way. And just imagine if you said hey, you know what?
It's coming out. The Orange is the New Black. Just download the
whole series to my box, the minute it comes out or even do
that in the background. Maybe I can't play it until Friday night
at midnight, whatever it is. That would solve everything. But
that's not how the Hollywood model works. And this is a very
and not an often discussed
issue. No, it's never discussed. I just wanted to throw
that out there. But then I agree with you too. And
here's your let me ask you this to go in further says Netflix
produced a couple of these. They have
the licence to themselves, they can do anything they want
anything they want. Yep. So
they could do a download and play like, Okay, you get a
Netflix subscription, you can, you know, download and play. In
other words, just download the whole oranges, a new black and
play it at your leisure. Because it's not as though they're
running commercials in it or anything else. You might as well
have a copy.
A good point, and I believe that they would have the right well,
I don't know their entire ownership structure of House of
Cards, oranges, the New Black, or or any of those series. But
anyway. It's a real problem that is not discussed. And it's just,
it's sad. The whole thing is just sad. It's sad. That's what
I'm like, I'll watch I'll pay to watch Orange is the New Black on
my cable box. I just want to see it. I don't need it streaming
from Netflix. It's it's good. I like it, I want to see it. But
if they're gonna do this bullcrap, and start cutting, cut
it off at 25%. Well, everything else works fine. You're full of
shit Netflix.
No, it has to be full of crap. Because they can stream anything
they want any way they want to, they would give you think they
give their own content higher priority, it wouldn't be a big
deal to do that. It wouldn't be a problem. They could do
whatever they want. But they've decided to choke off. Yeah, the
one thing that was probably pretty popular along with the
House of Cards, when it first comes out, it's very, very
popular to make a point so they can get the message across that
they don't want to
be. And by the way, it's only going to get worse. Now. I'm
very saddened by this that Mozilla made that's why they had
to get rid of the gay hater. Mozilla is now incorporating DRM
streaming media crap into their browser. You know anything about
this? No, I don't know anything about Yeah, it's it's part of
some, I'm sure some great standard HTML streaming DRM
crap. And so they're going to jump onto the DRM bandwagon. So
you can then stream Netflix to your browser, the streaming
thing is dumb. It's dumb. You know, it's just dumb. I've never
understood this streaming. I mean, I understand for sports
events. There's a whole bunch of reasons for it. And I'm on the
fence in a way because, you know, we stream our show live.
And I do like having the live audience although they're on a
delay. That's a little too long. So doesn't even make sense when
they say something.
Some five minutes later. Yeah, that's not right.
Adam doesn't read the chat room. No, it's on three topics down
the road. So, of course, as a as a programme maker, I appreciate
that. But you know, the evening news is not you know, you don't
need to have Brian Williams sitting there live, you know, he
could pre tape everything. Almost all the segments are pre
taped. It's not like Kid there's, you know, it's just not
like local news. Yeah. You know, someone on the spot. And it's
all even that. Yeah, I'm here where the accident occurred five
hours ago on the bridge with flashing lights. You being
fooled into thinking it's important. But then particularly
for this content, it does not have to be strained. It just
makes no sense. Technically makes no sense. In fact, quite
the opposite. That would solve a lot of problems. A lot.
Well, it's but it's counter. It's counter trend to not stream
because everything. We're moving it as things move to the cloud.
And we get all this stuff off of our desks and all we have is a
terminal not me brava and you move it all up to the cloud,
everything has to be streamed because everything works off the
cloud. Yeah. Because well, I mean, either I've got a
terabytes of storage here where it costs next to nothing. Why
would I want to move it someplace where it's going to be
a bandwidth issue? I mean, even if I had everything on the
cloud, I mean, what's my connection to the cloud compared
to my Gigabit Ethernet? In the home with gigabit Ethernet or
USB three, connectivity? It's ridiculous that I would choose
the sluggish cloud. I mean, what's the point of that? What
Why, why is it somebody trying to trick me into using the
sluggish cloud?
I don't know man. It's it's a trick though. That's for sure.
The sluggish cloud?
Yeah, sluggish. For those of
you who will be watching twit I guarantee you this will be a
topic of the so called Internet troll. That is a poll poised to
perhaps receive up to just shy of a 1% of all iPhone and iPad
sales. Who is this? This is actually a very, very
interesting company. Let me see where is this? I have it here.
The name this has been a big a big lawsuit that's been going on
Vernet X VIRNET X. iPhones, iPads and Macs infringe on their
actually their VPN patents. And it's an interesting case for
Well, for two reasons, from a legal standpoint, interesting
because Apple kind of overstepped their boundary and
their bounds in trying to get rid of this, and this company is
very, this Vernet X their lawyers, I guess, are pretty
smart. And they figured out a way to show at least one
district judge that Apple was behind this other company trying
to initiate an IPR, which is a patent review in the patent
process. And then an apple basically got busted on it. But
what's interesting about this, and the reason why I bring it up
this Vernet X owns the patents from a company that you might
have heard of called Science Applications International
Corporation S A. I see a familiar with this outfit.
I know SAIC Yes, so I see,
staffed and manage historically by spooks, right total spook
operation CIA. And I'm thinking that there will be a miraculous
settlement between Apple and Vernet X, formerly known as
SAIC. And we'll never really find out the terms but I'm
thinking this is where Apple gets compromised with backdoors.
Where it root with the compromise really takes place,
because 1% of Apple's revenue of their hardware, whatever it is,
they're selling. That's a lot of money. And I think Tim Cook will
buckle
it up. Oh, yeah, I get it.
Dr. Dre do the negotiations.
That whole thing with Dr. Dre reminds me so much of the House
of Lies by with the Don Cheadle series, which I think people
should watch. It's quite quite entertaining. It's a consulting
firm. Yeah, it's a really a good series. It's nice pacing is
nice.
While we're on predictions, just want you to know Twitter.
publicly listed company, of course is a big trouble because
I don't know they don't know how to make money. Something like
that. Their stock price on close Friday. $33.33 Yeah. I think
there's some some information there you might want to take
advantage of.
Yeah, but is it the short or long and it's gotta be? I'm
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list. adam@curry.com. Wow. Haiti, there's a lot going on
with the elections in case you hadn't noticed. We now have in
Egypt, of course, we have CeCe now, being the being elected the
head honcho, he is perfect for the job. IMF, Christine Lagarde
has already personally told him Hey, welcome. We'll hook you up
with whatever you need. And never and the investment
community is very happy with CeCe being in there. And in
Egypt. We have of course, Assad, who has been reelected. Who else
do we have we have some shenanigans going on in
Venezuela? And we have problems in Haiti. Now. Of course, Haiti,
as we know was,
ah, yeah, it is so weird. That there would be problems in
Haiti,
you'd expect it after all the billions of dollars that went
into rebuilding the place.
Yeah. And also that people that put that punched in 10 on their
phone or whatever, and yeah,
yeah. And the whole the whole show that George Clooney the the
telethon that tell us every country had a telethon. Billions
of dollars. I think it was eight or $10 billion that all run
through. Let's see the President Bush's nonprofit and the Clinton
Global Initiative and
we just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets
or water. Just send your cash and of course
then we had the the first guy who wanted to become president.
He was his head got too big for him. What was his name? Again,
the guy who was like on the jet hanging out and have they got
him out of the way before they got sweet Mickey Martelly in
Yeah, the other guy, the other, the other
performed the other musician.
But, you know, ultimately, the population of Haiti. I think
they are the todate the only country that has gotten out of
slavery, they were enslaved to France. And they said, You know
what, France once you stick it will pay back the money which of
course, they never really did. Tell you, you got to be careful
these Haitians, they can get riled up.
Haitians have taken to the streets of Porto prance calling
for the resignation of President Michel Martelly and fresh
elections. Amid growing political anger in the Caribbean
nation. An estimated 5000 people marched through the centre of
the Capitol to protest against what they claim is a lack of
action by authorities to alleviate hunger and tackle a
cholera epidemic which
the United Nations brought upon them, despite starting
and we should also mention the United Nations refuses even
though it's a known fact they brought it in to take
responsibility. Of course,
you know, peacefully. The protest quickly escalated, with
riot police firing tear gas to disperse the crowd to test his
burn ties and block streets. anti government protests in
Haiti have become increasingly common in recent months, as
discontent grows over perceived government corruption perceived
lack of change in the impoverished country since a
catastrophic earthquake in 2010. President Marta Lee who is
midway through his six year term, has accused his opponents
of fomenting instability, discouraging foreign investment
and blocking legislation that would help the country
slavery revolting. This is crazy. Shoot shooting. Do you
guys Adam poor people hundreds of 1000s still without homes.
money stolen by assholes. Oh, but love that Clinton Hotel.
Here here. Hey, we got that nice little they're making basket
weaving baskets there and right near the Clinton hotel. This is
definitely one of my pet peeves. I don't need to play the jingle
but ba makes when was the jingle? Adam Curry's pet peeve.
Oh, yeah, yeah. No, it wasn't enough. You didn't weren't? No,
I don't think it was your no but
this has been going on for years. up enough. They've been
going on for years this
well, it's got a little series of clips here. That would be
interesting. Okay. So um, watching Charlie Rose interview
are doing like, what do they call debriefing? Tell the client
this sexuality, it's in your DNA. And so I got a couple of
clips of my Charlie Rose and Carney and the percent this is a
kind of an interesting clip. This is the percentage No. In
other words, how smart is the White House? Staff in the press
corps? An edge, would you say reporters covering the White
House every day? whose business it is to understand and discover
what's going on? What percentage of what's actually going on? Do
you think they know? Or 10?
I think the good ones? No. 15% 20%. And because they're
good, reasonably and carefully extrapolate a little beyond that
15% 15.
This is Jay Carney, an outgoing spokes hole of the White House,
saying that in general, on average, the White House press
corps have a clue about 15 or 20% of what's really going on.
Yeah. But he said and where's he going to get his next job?
I think I don't know. Maybe he's gonna work for the intercept or
whatever. I don't have no idea. They published a new story. The
Intercept. Ah, great. Yeah. Graham Greene bowed down. Right.
So it goes on. And then this was the most interesting one because
this actually refers to our show. And this is the revealing
carry comment about coverage.
I mean, if you look at the way news media cover Washington and
politics, they and especially the networks and TV but but
everyone, more and more, they folk like everything is focused
on the White House. They used to have reporters covering the
agencies and they and, and and subcommittees on Capitol Hill,
it's all for now. It's just sort of this is the locus of power,
the Locus of Power,
it's a locus. So in other words, what we do when we watch C span
is way beyond what the media does nowadays, because we've
known this but I've never heard anyone say it. They just cover
the White House, whatever the White House so we go and listen
to these obscure committee hearings and the rest of it. So
I ran into the one is the one I was teasing on the last show.
It's an environmental committee. That was for people. It was a
subcommittee of the big committee that is run by boxer
which is essentially the global warming Yes,
I saw the I saw the boxer once she man she's a dick. Yes, she's
a toxic when she runs that committee is like you got 10
seconds left.
A horrible person. Yeah. Well, the subcommittee which was
consisted of the senator from Rhode Island, Skye Markey, the
guy for I think he's from Massachusetts, and then Weicker
and sessions, and they're the two Republicans, they brought on
two experts. One of them was talked to talked and talked
about wildfires, he was the wildfire expert, and the other
one was a general generalist, and he was on his moves more
climate science guy, the wildfire guy went on. And every
time they asked him anything, he says, No, that's not there's not
global warming. We've known this before we've heard these
testimonies. The guy says, the main problem that you've had is
that people are moving into these areas. And so when a fire
breaks out, that they're all the resources that have to protect
these holes,
and more and more stuff is destroyed because they're there.
Right? There's Yeah,
and they they by by protecting the homes is less resources to
stop actually stopped to fire. So that's one of the reasons so
many of these fires, meanwhile, because they're not listening,
the two Democrats aren't listening to any of this. And
then we had the Rhode Island senator who decides and this is
the Rhode Island Senator clip decides upon himself to go off
the deep end with with personal anecdotes, you know, to verify,
you know, the kind of thing they've always criticised
everybody else for about how the fishing has changed this ruining
in the world because of global warming play this.
I appreciate that planting trees helps reduce carbon but it
hardly offsets the coal plant next door that's playing out 10s
of 1000s of tonnes of carbon dioxide. The 50 Worst carbon
plants in the country put out more carbon than Korea. I'm
surprised Yeah. That's that's a story.
What is it? Is it north and south or just north just south
or is it just Korea?
They put on more than Korea Korea. Korea is the size of what
is the size of Maine
pretty industrialised country, and we are seeing these effects
in New England. We are Senator Sessions was pleased to bring up
that there's actually additional rain falling in the Northeast
not only is there additional rainfall in the northeast, just
as the climate projections expect, but it is falling in
more powerful Oh, rain bursts. Oh, hold on.
You know, I thought the whole first of carbon pollution. I'm
surprised he didn't say carbon pollution but now it's rain
bursts, which are clearly clearly climate just as
the climate experts predicted justice and those more policy
rain bursts first, fuzzing, repeated, damaging flooding we
have had year after year of 100 year floods in Rhode Island.
We've had one that hit the 500 year level in Cranston, Rhode
Island. And it just keeps coming. Like Senator Merkley.
We're in Ocean State,
and okay, we I have to say something about this. God, I
wish my mom was alive. She would be peeing her pants right now.
My mom grew up in Rhode Island. And she told me all a lot about
the tidal waves and about the water coming all the way up the
basement coming into the kitchen. This is not new. Now
we're talking 60 years ago. This happened yesterday on ocean
stage. Yes. Yes. Yeah, this happens and Hello, there's an
ocean there. And no and no one was talking about climate change
back then. Oh, you know that this is not that this is no
coincidence. You know, that we had un wed
un wed?
Yes, un wed? What's un wed World Environment Day? Oh, yeah.
Right, you read and you and you know what the slogan is?
Get wed.
Here is the blogger, the vlogger. I'm sorry, who won the
United Nations competition for best video. With the slogan of
the UN red World Environment Day, you'll have to listen, but
it gets repeated for the entire video. Raise your voice. Raise
your voice, not the seat left, raise your voice is your voice.
I can't stand it raise your voice, not the sea level. This
is the meme you see. And what is happening is your loved one,
raise your voice not the sea level. And of course, you'd get
a little islands that you know that you get tectonic shifts in
the plates and you get erosion. And what what they're saying is
we're drowning, we're to drown in the sea level is we're
drowning, because the sea levels because the ice is melting,
we're drowning is bull shit.
I'm on the bay. And I can see the horse track and it has a
parking lot. And I've been at this parking lot in the parking
lot is about three feet above sea level, or Bay level, which
is sea level because it's you know, it's a part of the ocean.
And I have never even seen that thing flooded even once.
And you're an ocean state.
We're an ocean state. Anyway, so the guy goes on and on. And he's
this is the senators giving testimony essentially for for
Markley, who is just a complete asshole. And this goes on and
they they every time one of the two guys testifying say anything
they guys, well, you know, the way there's fishes have changed
and we've got different fish that we fish now because of
climate change he go on.
Does he have that actual voice?
Well, that's the voice that the Rhode Island guy only he talks
to the DOM, like it now. So anyway, this goes on and on. So
Weicker five, finally gets up and he is tired of this. And so
he this is his little, his little comment with one of the
guys trying to give testimony. This is Weicker on the
environment
very much, Senator Weiner, Senator wicker.
Wicker.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have to say this. I have not today or
have I ever been in a committee hearing insulted the integrity
of witnesses on the other side of an issue. And we have come
perilously close to that in this committee today. And it's been
suggested by my friend from Rhode Island that Dr. South and
Dr. Lee gates are part of, of a French and to me this, this is
the very kind of public intimidation and insulting
rhetoric that Professor Lee Gates has talked about it having
experience at the University of Delaware and I take exception to
now Dr. Lee gates, you are A signatory of the Oregon
petition, are you not? Yes, sir. And that Oregon petition says
there's no scientific, there's no convincing scientific
evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane or other
greenhouse gases, is causing or will in the foreseeable future
cause catastrophic heating the Earth's atmosphere and
disruption of the Earth's climate. I assume this is some
petition that you and some fringe scientists from Oregon
got together and signed, is that correct? No, I believe there's
30 some 1000 people signed up 30 some 1000 people, would you
describe these people? Many of
them are scientist PhDs and other disciplines, people who
are connected with climate change and doing research in
various areas
denier shear with it? Well, I just have to say, I appreciate
someone standing up and and, and challenging the conventional
wisdom. You know, Martin Luther did that. Martin Luther King did
that. And so I appreciate some people are willing to, to hold
up their hand and say, Wait a minute, I've got some data here,
that I would like to suggest, is a contrary position. Well, I
wouldn't put myself quite in that category. Well, but but it
is, it is an important issue. And I have to say, I admire you
for standing up and Dr. South also for standing up and saying
you have a right to be heard. And a right to be listened to
and a right not to be insulted by being called a part of a
lunatic fringe. Now you've concluded that you that droughts
in the United States are more frequent and more intense during
colder periods, is that correct?
That's what the the data's in indicate. We look at droughts
over the last 2000 years, they tend to become more intense and
more frequent, when the temperatures have become
colder, obviously a Republican
the sciences. So this guy and the other guy, they presented
all this data about all the stuff that you didn't, you know,
potentially the denialist is horrible, horrible lies. They so
they go on and on with this stuff. And then at the very end,
Marquis, Ed Markey, the moron from Massachusetts. Here's the
way he wraps it up.
Thank you very much to all of our witnesses. I appreciate you
bringing your expertise to bear. We have heard today that climate
change is having impacts on the ground right now. Check theory.
It's not about models, decades, multiple decades. Changes in the
ground right now are real and made visible.
Major building American even said major, like we say is
livelihoods. In farming in hunting and fishing, forestry.
No, these are real jobs and jobs, real impact impact
generation. And then the next. We've heard about bark beetle
infestations. Locusts. What about migration? So fish fish,
we've heard about the impact on the editor to find wildfires,
wildfire hacked, have magnified droughts of more acidic oceans
in the Pacific and their impact on oyster reproduction. Oh, no,
not the oysters, I just have to wonder about if baby oysters are
having troubles forming a shell, how many other shell fish
impacts are there that are going to be problematic for the food
chain. The Gaza children are oceans and and our fisheries. So
these things are real at this moment. They confront us with
evidence that must not be ignored. Certainly this is in
the context of debate at this moment without specific measures
that we might take to limit carbon dioxide, including that
from coal fired power plants. And the cost of ignoring climate
change will continue to increase. The costs are real.
Real costs are tangible. They will affect jobs. They affect
our rural resources. Yes.
Did this guy even listen? No, of course, watch this whole thing
they did. The testimony was exactly the opposite of his
conclusions. He's either a shill an idiot or god knows what. But
this is the kind of thing that gets your course he's
essentially grandstanding here. And you take a clip from that as
opposed to actually listening to the hearing. Oh, God, we're all
gonna die. Yeah, well, and I found this to be the most
disgusting thing. Hang on. And this is one of those obscure
things that was not on C span I actually dug this out of the
archives of the of the Senate is just astonished me.
Well, there's a lot of this going on, as you know, this is
the President's push to have the EPA encourage, sorry, regulate
power plants to lower their carbon pollution. By 30%. And by
the way, the year that that's supposed to happen is 2030. I'd
like to point out that that is the year I call it as an
important year, here is Alice Hill. Now she's the person that
does get recorded and quoted and used everywhere. She is the
Senior Adviser to the to Homeland Security. And she's
here talking about climate change.
Secretary Kerry has recently noted, climate change can
produce effects similar to those of weapons of mass destruction.
Yes, just so you know, that's, that's according to Carrie,
we know that climate change will affect and he should know,
probably every country on earth. It is, after all, global global
climate warming,
global climate warming. And there's a reason she's saying
that which I'll get to in a moment, okay, other nations
around the world. This is out of phase for some reason, we'll
just have to live with it are also
viewing this as a national security risk as a governance
piece that is part of the governance piece. The American
Security Project surveyed every country in the world and asked
if climate change was included in their national security
strategies. And 70% of Nations said that it was We know, for
example, that climate change will affect water security, food
security energy system. And as Susan has mentioned, the
stability of our critical infrastructure. It could, for
example, affect our military mission if our key military
bases were severely damaged by extreme weather, or if they're
just threatened by sea level rise, so that we have to be
thinking, Where are we going to move them?
We have to move the basis because of the severe sea level
rise now. She said climate global climate warning warming.
Yeah, there's a reason for this. As you know, the Yalies have for
a while now have this climate change communication project,
which is a part of the Yale School of Forestry and
Environmental Studies. And the report came out that they
studied this stuff. Remember, this is the climate change
communication. And I didn't clip it. But John Stewart did a thing
the other day, and he literally I'll use that word brings in the
shields from the climate change communication division from Yale
to talk about climate change, not not necessarily a
climatologist, or meteorologists, but someone from
the climate change Communications Group, which is
just astounding, to me, it's a PR firm, essentially, this
report is, is studied the impact of the words global warming
versus the word, climate change. preference, I have the report
here, as marked up in the show notes, six to four.no. agenda
notes calm. This report is based on findings from a biannual
series of nationally representative survey studies,
climate change in the American mind, conducted by the Yale
project on climate change. Nice. Yeah, this is a very interesting
little report. It's a it's about 33 pages always wonderful. And
I'll give you a little bit from the executive summary. This
report provides results from three studies that collectively
find that global warming and climate change are often not
synonymous. They mean different things to different people, and
activate different sets of beliefs, feelings and
behaviours, as well as different degrees of urgency about the
need to respond. So the reason it was changed to climate change
versus global warming is because essentially, the warming has
stalled or had been put on pause as a decade. Yeah. But
unfortunately, the models
by the way, the reason that that happened, is, well, there's a
lot of different explanations, but because the original models
the way they were designed to increase co2 would always result
in increased warming. Yes, it means it was a one to one thing
and then when it crapped out it stopped being a one to one in
reality not in computer models. Then they had they all panicked
everyone panic and said we were not getting the funding we you
know, I've always believed this is a desperation situation,
because there's a bunch of money involved.
Well, there's a real problem. And here it is from this story.
survey done by Yale an established institution. We
found that the term global warming is associated with
greater public understanding, emotional engagement and support
for personal and national action, then the term climate
change. How much does that suck? For example, the term global
warming is associated with greater certainty that the
phenomenon is happening especially amongst men
Generation X 31 to 48. And liberals, greater understanding
that human activities are the primary cause among independents
greater understanding that there is a scientific consensus about
the reality of the phenomenon among independents and liberals.
More intense worry about the issue, especially among men
Generation Y 18 to 30 Generation X Democrats, liberals and
moderates a greater sense of personal threat, especially
amongst women, the greatest generation 68 Plus African
Americans, Hispanics, Democrats, independents, republicans,
liberals and moderates. And higher issue priority ratings
for action by the President and Congress, especially amongst
women, Democrats, liberals and moderates, are finding strongly
suggest that the terms global warming and climate change are
used differently, I mean, different things in the minds of
many Americans, and they have all kinds of graphs, etc. But
bottom line, global warming, works, climate change, not so By
contrast, the use of the term climate change appears to
actually reduce issue engagement by Democrats, independents,
liberals and moderates, as well as a variety of subgroups within
the American society, including men, women, minorities,
different generations, and across political and partisan
lines. Oh, so I think they're going to try and move this to
global climate warming thing.
Global climate warming,
global warming has to be in there because people don't
respond. In fact, it detracts.
They gotta get the climate word out of there. They got to just
go back to global warming.
But if it doesn't warm if it's constantly cold, and the lakes
are frozen,
yes, this is a problem. They don't the lack of warming. Yes.
They're a rock and a hard place. Yes.
So I think they got to come up with something. And so they've
tried climate disruption, none of that works.
So well. climate warming is too many words. Well, yeah,
but but this this is very serious business.
Well, I liked it. I, by the way, give you 100 points for finding
that report. Because that actually shows the public
relations aspect of the whole thing and why it gets so
politicised. And it's actually scandalous, to be honest, in my
opinion, that report and what they're trying to do to the
American public in the world public, as a matter of fact, is
scandalous, let's just pure out, out and out manipulation. Well,
there's the mindset of the American public, there's a
bottom
Oh, yeah, well, there's a bottom line to this, I'll just read
this last paragraph. Because of course, they need to keep
themselves in business. It is important to note, however, that
connotative meanings are dynamic and change sometimes rapidly. It
is possible that with repeated use, climate change will come to
acquire similar connotative meanings as a global warming,
that the two will eventually become synonymous for most
people, or that climate change will supplant global warming as
the dominant term in public discourse. In the meantime,
however, the results of these studies strongly suggest that
the two terms continue to mean different things to many
Americans. So I think we will see a barrage of climate change
climate change, compensate climate, climb, climb, climb,
climb, climb, climb, like climate change.
Maybe your original observation where the term global climate
change, or no global climate warming, is the transitional
term to go back to global warming? Well, I better get warm
if they want to do better. They're banking on the falling
for one thing, you have to have a big disaster or something, you
know, yeah, that's what I'm a big disaster, or you need to
actually for the chart to change even though I don't think it's
going to, I think they'll really the way to come back on this is
to find those guys from the 70s who are still all in on global
cooling. Bring that thing about the fire there. But the brush
fires being a result of cooling, which which was ignored by this
idiot Marquis, who should be voted out of office for being
stupid. And then we'll start pumping that into the public
consciousness and see what happens. I think that would be
much funnier. Well, there's because apparently half the guys
that were in, in the 70s doing the global cooling thing. Half
of them switched over to global warming, the other half stuck
with stuck with their guns and there's now on the global
cooling side. Well, maybe
if I look at the US Postal Service is doing very
disappointing by the way You know we're big supporters of the
USPS they have come out with a a new stamp which is the sea
surface temperatures so maybe they'll make global sea warming
or sea surface temperature something like that because you
know that's all it's scary when you have a Do I think that
there's something is a combo between the sea warming and
raise your voice not the sea level you know there's gonna be
something like that
or maybe they're gonna focus on the sea Yeah that would
be a sea is always good to focus on it's always kind of scary you
don't know what else is going on in the CC is the sea man we
didn't know what to do with the sea. Is Michelle Obama running
for Senate? Why? That's what a lot of people are saying.
I haven't heard this. Oh, really? Yeah, really?
Oh, no. I hear this all over the floor. She
where she gonna run for worship? Why is she going to run for
Senate what exact qualifications does she have except well I can
say the same Well, she's healer
while she signs bills. We know that but she's these rumours are
pretty strong. Let me see what I pick this up. But I'm like some
apparently there's a guy up in the Kerch in in Chicago is up in
2016. They're thinking she might have to replace her. I think she
could she could win. Did you Did you see her?
At my Angeles funeral?
Yeah. That was that, man. She could win in Illinois, which is
corrupt anyway. I mean, they just flip a switch and she wins.
Yeah. But does she really want that job? That's, you know,
yeah, I don't know. People were saying that. I don't know. It's
just a rumour.
She wants to run for president Good luck. I mean, that's the
Hillary only reason to Hillary ran for Senate then there are
fixed rigged you know, she never lived in New York. I don't live
now next thing you know, she's a senator. Right? Right. Right. So
she could run for president which crapped out on her and I
think this next round is going to crap on our I think she's
done
tomorrow night. We get the the big Diane Sawyer interview
with the book, the book tour interview. Well, it's
to be Yeah, it's but it's the it's the big no holds barred.
No, any question goes Ask me whatever you want.
So she was at by the way, I saw a piece of this interview and
Hillary looks dynamite. How old is she now? She's 68. So yeah,
Elizabeth Warren is 64 and she looks better. I mean,
not attractive. Well, she's not uniquely qualified to run the
Empire like Hillary.
I know. But she's uniquely qualified to win.
i Sorry, man. I'm, Hillary's No.
Sorry, I you know you every time you're all I can see is that you
guys you go on and on with your denialism. It's just gonna come
back and bite you in the ass. Okay. All right. Well,
you know, you got to be careful. You know, people who go against
Hillary seem to get shot in the face.
Well, unless somebody shoots Elizabeth Warren, which can
happen. She's getting beat
or he has no way to raise the money. John, forget about it.
The Clintons have all the money. She raised her. You're way off
on that one. Now, she does not have shown her chops at raising
money. Wall Street does not want her. There's no way that she
cannot raise a billion dollars. It's gonna take a billion
dollars to become president.
Here she is, here's what happens. That may or may not be
true. But it's the primaries where Hillary gets wiped out by
her Democrats like Elizabeth Warren, Democrats like her
message. Democrats are all in when it comes and they don't
like Hillary. Nobody likes Hillary the Democrats have given
an opportunity. The only thing Hillary's got going for she's a
woman. Well, we got to get a women in does definitely have to
be a Democrat. The first woman president has to be a Democrat.
We got to vote a Democrat woman in room. There's your
alternative. Oh, God, we don't have to vote in Hillary. Let's
vote for this woman.
Wow. You really think that huh? Yes. All right. Well, if if
Elizabeth Warren is the candidate for the Democrats,
that'll be a shoo in anybody with with with two legs don't
have to have legs. And the Republican Party will win.
No. There's no way the Republicans can beat her. Really
get used to it. Wow. Elizabeth Warren, our next president.
Oh, man. That's a that's a frightening thought.
Well, the thing is, she's just gonna knuckle under to everybody
else. This
is what I do. What I do is I bring in what's his name? The
the CIA guy. Petraeus
betrays me may actually run Yeah. And he wouldn't he would.
He would slaughter her, I'm sure. No. Hey, remember, I'm
from the future boy.
Yeah, well, fair enough. apparently didn't pay much
attention to politics when you're out there in the future.
Okay? I don't think Patris can beat anybody. He's got the chops
but he's to portray us he you know, he's got to you got to
remember him in that uniform with all that crap. You know he
looks like a General Lisa mo from Chile in the 60s He just
looks he's too arrogant and full of himself because that that was
the indicator to me and a little badge he probably still wear the
badge below Bakelite badge, Bakelite badge, so No, he hasn't
got no he doesn't have people don't he's not likeable.
Elizabeth Warren is really the you watch her? Oh, yeah, she's
like my I
have I can tell you how Hillary can win. If I were her
strategist, here's what I do. I would get in close to the to the
primary. I would come out and show my spouse my partner whom I
Aberdeen.
No, bam, baby, man.
She's loose. She's gay. And she's a woman.
Yeah, no, no, no winner. No, that's not a winner. That's a
total opposite because No, here's the problem with that.
The Democrats who would be all in on somebody being gay, that's
not a problem if they were gay, not if they've been hiding the
truth. She comes out each year. She's she's not trustworthy now.
Your strategy is wrong. She can't win. If Hillary actually
gets nominated. Me beats Elizabeth Warren in the
primaries. I'll be surprised now. It's not that she can't.
She has, you know, a lot of machine. But she and her choice
of people that's out there. How did she lose to Obama? I mean,
is is the example. She was a shoo in. It was all set up for
her and she just Obama walked all over her. And she had a
bunch of incompetence running her campaign, which is going to
be the same thing because they're all her buddies. It's
just I don't see it. I don't see how she can. And this ready for
Hillary campaign is already crapping out.
All I know is she's uniquely qualified. And I pray she is I
agree with the Lord my saviour every single night that she
becomes president because that will make our show that much
more interesting for at least four years. Elizabeth Warren, a
Kaiser Alexander went on the Christiane Amanpour show. And
again, something has changed with CNN, I don't even know if
Zucker is in charge anymore. Something has happened where
they get to know it is busts people's butts about stuff. And
so Keith Alexander used to run the NSA now known as the Kaiser,
and he's now been replaced by the admiral. Literally the
admiral there, I said it again. I should stop doing that.
And here he is that you're catching yourself because I
should I
YouTube? You do it too. We both do it. I say literally, yeah.
You have said it a couple times.
Well then honked the horn. Yeah.
And he goes on the the Christianna on propor show and
starts lying. Lying. It's almost like that, that like the global
warming climate change thing you just played. He's lying, because
we know that the President's Advisory Committee said, she
said you should stop this metadata crap, right? Isn't that
what they said? Remember, they put them down in the basement of
some C span for like, you can go over there. And we know that
every city except for I guess the something in New York Times
everything else had been no this this is crap. This has to
change. So here he is lying. Can
you tell me honestly, whether you get the reset that is needed
to regain the trust of the American people and the trust of
the world? Do you get it?
I'm not talking about taking the programmes off the table. I
think what we've done a terrible job in is explaining what those
programmes do. You know, that all the review groups that have
looked at what NSA has done, has found out that it's legal, it's
what they're authorised to know effective. No, you can see what
the Presidential review group has done. Yeah. Judge Polly
found no, in each case, everyone is substantiated, that this is
the right approach. No, we've got the overview of Go ahead, go
sorry, I understand what you're saying. But I need to ask you
and interrupt you there because, you know, you have told the
surveillance code that the call tracking programme was vital and
legal. But these two groups that you just now mentioned, the
review group, the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board
has concluded that the programme was unnecessary and should be
discontinued.
No thank you very much, Christiana. I'm poor I have
faith in you again. I had lost it a little bit. I thought she
was all in and Shilling and there she was. Now she's saying
oh, this is not true. But now this is where Kaiser Alexander I
don't know what he's doing. I don't know it's never
no one's no one has the the goal to do that to me.
Yeah. Well, he should get some advice on some media training.
Essentially. He just said it you know, we didn't do a good job in
the in the media. Yeah. That's true. And he's on the very weak,
the very weak that this something happened in this
regard, he uses this analogy as an answer. When you're trying
to solve a terrorist puzzle, we're gonna give our analysts
some tools. It's like solving the Jeopardy, or wheel of
fortune, you get a number on a set of letters that you can
guess, each of those letters or
tools. And here is how that works in America this week on
Wheel of Fortune. Sir, play wherever you go.
Here we come. Did you see that? Did you see that? We were
fortunate, right? Yeah, it was. So it was the most obvious one
ever. And the guy gets it wrong. She doesn't like that he
couldn't get it.
And this is what Kaiser Alexander uses as an example.
What a moron.
Now that poor guy is out to lunch, I don't think you paid
any attention to anything. Well, now
he sets us up. And this is, I think the the last thing we need
to talk about today, because this falls perfectly within the
cycle that we're expecting
you asked some great questions, but I think the no concern I
have when you start to ask these questions is we've got to have a
way of putting the facts out. So the American people know,
because I do think an attack is going to come and hit US or
Europe. And then people are going to swing this right
around.
Yeah. And this is the big cyber attack that everybody has been
predicting. It's on its way, and I'm thinking perfect for the for
the cycle for the six weeks.
I just don't know if that seems to be shut up.
I just don't know if the FBI can do that. You know what I mean?
Because it has to be an FBI thing. I just don't know if
they're, if they're having
meetings as we speak. Yeah. I think it's going to have to be
usually just I don't know, I mean, we don't know we've never
predicted accurately, except for these boneheads simple ones. The
site, we've never predicted the cycle is unpredictable, in my
opinion. And that's one of the beauties of it. But if I was
going to predict something, I would say that we have a cyber
attack, that takes down a big chunk of the grid in red states
have to be red states, because you don't want to you know, it
will go low. It could be just New York, I mean, the same old
thing is cascade takes down and then is blamed on the Iraq
Iranians who are then it deny it. And it turns out to be
Stuxnet or something like that. And we haven't put enough money.
I mean, we have all the other stuff. We're following
individuals, but we haven't put enough money in cyber
protection. And Richard Clark comes out and, you know, grab
some of the money and some of these other guys do the same
thing. And then we all kind of reset to what we how we feel
about the NSA, he they have to be blameless. You can't say,
well, the NSA should have stopped it has to be something
outside there. Well, that's,
that's why that's why it makes sense for it to happen in Europe
is he just said he said that could be here or in Europe. And
I think, why would why would he say just Europe? Why wouldn't he
say China or Japan or why Europe? Is not that much more
vulnerable?
Or Seoul, Korea, or Korea? Yeah. No, it could be China, Japan,
Indonesia, Australia, why Europe?
Because I think there's something planned. Isn't he with
some consultancy now? Isn't it some kind of cyber consultancy?
Right into a consultancy?
I thought it was already there. I thought it was already doing
some.
I didn't know that. Let's look him up in the Wikipedia. Yeah,
you know, you will
have to do the while you're doing that, I wanted to keep
their eye on the South Stream pipeline projects. This is a big
problem in the European Union. This is in fact the Keep your
eye on the Bulgarian government, or the South Stream is a
pipeline that would bring gas into Europe, from Russia, but
it's as the name implies, it goes through the south. So it
does not go through the typical route of Ukraine into Turkey. I
believe this actually goes straight into May going into
Greece or into Italy. Serbia also says it's going to but
continue then and the EU is beside itself. They're trying to
stop this in any way they can. So I'm thinking maybe a few
terrorist attacks Bulgaria and Serbia on deck for some
terrorist attacks. Because we cannot cannot allow Russia to
complete the South Stream pipeline project to bypass the
our gateway between the East and the West as Mr. Kerry would have
it
Keith Alexander Did you know that he was made a four star
general? Nine of extra militarily? Because he was ahead
of the Cyber Command?
No, I didn't. Oh, maybe I didn't know that because they made him
head of cyber command. And then he became a four star
before because you've looked at his medals and ribbons. He's
done nothing. Well, he has the Royal Norwegian Order of Merit.
The hills that sounds hot. He was a parachutist.
There's something to be said for that.
Yes to parachute is badges. One is the SR parachute his badge,
which is the army badge. And then he has the Parachutist
Badge, a German badge.
But does he have a consultancy?
No, he's as far as I can tell. He's still hanging out with his
wife. Okay.
Now the house. All right. Well, it'll be interesting to see what
what happens in the next couple of days as we will be keeping an
eye on everything for you. You really don't need to look at
anything else. I mean, or listening anything? Well, we'll
bring it to you if it's worthwhile, I think.
Yeah, no, you don't think you know? But look for some
of these words, changing. The climate change. Actually,
as a teaser stopped to stop the outro. I want to play something
I'm sorry. This is something I wanted. I just want to get this
out of the way this was for the last show. And I just want to
play it as a teaser for what is going to happen because they're
reconvening a Benghazi inquiry. And this is a guy discussing,
lying, or not giving testimony before a congressional committee
what happens to you or what should happen to you and is not
happening to people. And I think this is very important to listen
to this as a testimony before Congress, contempt citation
where it's supposed to go
now can be punished by a fine of up to $1,000 and up to a year in
jail. The minimum being by the way, a one month in jail. Now
under two USC 194, which is a statute that follows very
closely after this. If a witness refuses to answer questions, or
to appear as a witness, such as, for example, Lois Lerner, who
was recently held in contempt by the court, then what happens is
the House or the Senate, certify to the relevant United States
attorney that a witness has refused to answer or appear
before a committee. Now, in the case of Congress in the house,
the relevant US attorney is the US Attorney for the District of
Columbia, a man named Ronald Mack make it and under the
statute, his duty shall be to bring the matter before the
grand jury for its action. Now know that that statute doesn't
say that the US attorney may or may not bring that matter before
a federal grand jury. It says that he shall. In other words,
he has to do it. Unfortunately, the United States Attorney for
the District of Columbia has refused to follow the statute.
For example, when the Attorney General Eric Holder was held in
contempt of court under this statute, he had a legal
obligation to bring that contempt citation before a
federal grand jury. He refused to do that. We don't know yet
whether he's going to once again refuse to follow the law with
regard to the learner contempt citation. But if he does refuse
to do so, then it will not be a good sign for this committee.
Because if there are any witnesses that refuse to answer
questions are appear before and they refer this matter to the US
Attorney. It'll be up to him to enforce it before a grand jury.
And unfortunately, the lawlessness that has become
prevalent in this Department of Justice, shown by the refusal of
the US attorney to comply with this federal statute is a very
serious concern and one that, frankly, no matter what side of
the political aisle you're on, you should be worried about to
Hillary's say in her book, I'm not I'm done with Benghazi, I'm
not going to talk screw you owe. This is all about Hillary, she's
not going to testify and they're not going to do a damn thing
about it. Because the Justice Department is corrupt. I just
thought that was a very interesting clip.
I like it. I like it. All right. Will take it ooh, so off key
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