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Why is anyone wasting their time
under any circumstances? Adam

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curry, John C. Dvorak.

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Sunday, February 23 2014. Time
for your Gitmo nation media

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assassination episode five,
nine.

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This is no agenda.

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Nothing called super foods from
FEMA Region six here at the

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traverse high tide out in
Austin, Texas capital, the Lone

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Star State in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry and

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from

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Northern Silicon Valley where
they're looking for all the real

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El Chapo. I'm John C. Dvorak is
correct, Vaughn

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a skill.

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So funny. I so agree with what
our producer sent us.

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Ya know, as soon as he sent it.

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And we got we got an email from
our producer living down there

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in Mexico. Was that the deal?

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We can't tell what he is. But he
was apparently living in Mexico

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is something for some reason,
rather. And

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he says that it says the guy in
the video is an imposter. Not

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the real guy or? Well, good on
you for calling that though.

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John. Yeah, we had the three
amigos meeting last week, or a

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couple days ago. And you know, I
was looking at the TT TPP and

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TTIP. And of course, this is
also about the Super the NAFTA

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superhighway going straight up
to Canada Navia. But you said

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Oh, no, no, no. There's also a
little meeting with the Sinaloa

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Cartel

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must have been? Well, you Well,
we're on at you if you just

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died, or there's very few news
reports. All we see is what the

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AAP sent out. And they captured
this guy supposedly is over in

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some buddy's house. No guards
and a burger. just grabbed him.

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And it would seem to me it's
pot. There's a number of

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backup backup. This is one of
the richest people in the world.

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This guy. Yeah. Thank you. So So
yeah, the idea that, you know,

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hey, we happen to pop by for
this little meeting and we

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figure we come and bust you
right now. And it wasn't it was

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American law enforcement as
well. Correct.

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Yeah, DEA? Well, let's do a
little background for people

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want to know what what happened
at the head of the Sinaloa

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Cartel supposedly arrested. And
we've already known from

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depositions in Chicago, and
we've discussed this and others

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have discussed it long since we
discussed it years ago, where

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there was a some guy got
arrested who shouldn't have been

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and so he's there deposing and
trying to get do discovery on

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the on the on the US defence,
not holders group. Attorney

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General justice. Yeah. For the
Justice Department for a deal to

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show that there was a deal done
between the Sinaloa cartel and

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the US government. That's what
Fast and Furious was all about.

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It was descending guns to the
Sinaloa Cartel period, it wasn't

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about anything else,

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so that they could ruin all the
other gangs takeover and in

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return, they received free
passage, certainly to Chicago,

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but other areas of the United
States to distribute their wares

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did I just lose? You? Know,
that's what happened in our

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little pre show as well. Let's
hold on one second.

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So that wasn't good.

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What is this? This is Windows
eight rebooting on you know,

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seven.

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That's right. It's gonna give me
a blue screen of death out of

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the blue. Every time it does
that. I take something off the

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USB. and then I have to reboot
it reboots fast but, but there's

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something. I'm looking at the

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Okay, let's Hello. Hello. This
is the window tech support. Have

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you tried unplugging device
waiting? 30 seconds and then

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turning on again?

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Yeah, that's exactly what I've
been doing. Let's

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have you installed new drivers.

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Come on. App dated looking at
this, you know, you help

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describe this problem. You know,
those mini dump and then there's

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just a big DMP file. That means
nothing,

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you know, you installed
something. No, yeah, you're

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saying it's exactly the same as
it was on Thursday?

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Yes, exactly. I don't I don't
use this machine for it.

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Alright, can we continue? I
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was I was saying they were the
ideas they would take over all

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the. Okay. Yeah, so we just cut
in and you wonder how you wanted

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me to go? No,

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I've been recording the whole
time. I've been singing songs.

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If you had to clap your hands.

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Let's get back to Guzman. And if
it is rebooted, I'm going to go

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to another machine. Alright,
good. So so he the idea was that

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the Sinaloa cartel would take is
like from some plot, somebody

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sent us a science fiction plot.
Apparently this has been done in

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the movies, where the idea was
that the Sinaloa guys take over

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the whole place and then kill
all the other gangs off and then

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we would just be doing business
with one group and it would make

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life easier for everybody all
around. And, and so this doesn't

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this does not fit into the
schema? No,

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it makes no sense. And by the
way, if this truly if they truly

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have the number one guy, why
don't you think our president

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would be doing a press
conference and jumping up and

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down and gone? All children are
safe now.

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Yeah, excellent point. That's

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what I'd be doing. So

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you had there's nothing they
didn't even play it on NBC. And

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this

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is a guy that people know his
name. He's a celebrity in a way.

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Yeah. El Chapo. Yeah. El Chapo
Guzman. Everybody knows this

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guy. But not but yet, there's no
one thumping their chest. I find

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that hard to believe.

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Yeah, that's the lack of chest
thumping. is ridiculous. And

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it's so it's either says, a
couple of, I don't know, we can

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make some some suggestions. But
it seems as if he's either going

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to, they needed to get a hold of
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This was one way he wasn't
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So they now they're chatting
about some and he's going to

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either escape with some
spectacular escape, or Yeah,

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that was gonna shoot him. And it
won't be him of course, no. And

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he's going to be moved to
Switzerland. And he maybe wants

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out. I mean, he's possibly
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I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm

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tired. Just a lot of work. Hmm.
So this is fishy.

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Well, it's kind of interesting
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the banks essentially being
given carte blanche to launder

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drug money. So all of that is
kind of set up I would believe

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that the Sinhala was our kind of
ruling the all the gangs.

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I don't think it looks like
looks like it.

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And if this really happened,
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Wouldn't you think that another
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into position or someone would
move up there would be some

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there's usually a new guy who
then presents himself, right, as

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the guy began the copy to to to
copy whatever. Now, now, but

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we'll have to see, but I'm also
very sceptical of this being the

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real deal.

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Alright, let's I guess we solved
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All right. Onward. Yes. Well,
I'm a little under the weather

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today. I don't like to complain,
but I do have to tell you that

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I'm weak. As Miss Mickey had two
art openings one Thursday night

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is wearing yourself out. No,
it's the almighty dollar. Yeah,

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no, it's uh oh man just people
when you when you do an art

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opening and everyone's talking
in your face and like this and

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this bit here facing Oh, right
God man and tall people that so

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so we had to open one was
organised by her collectors,

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which is awesome. Because by

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the way, do you ever have any of
these guys that come up to you

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and they get like, something
died in their stomach?

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Gah there's actually a dead bird
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mean? Yeah. Well, so we had the
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turning away from him to know

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well, being six four is good in
this case. But last night, we

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had the collectors which was you
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really really fantastic. You
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Dan Dan rather's wife, you know,
kind of like these kinds of

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people who were around Austin,
who are collectors. And then

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last night we had so there's
also been advertising and you

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know, there's people know about
this show. So there were a lot

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of people were invited, but also
people who just saw it. Go and

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check it out. And I don't know
what it is, but I am like a

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crazy magnet as ye and you
probably would have figured that

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and you know the kind of crazy
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John, you know, the really wacky
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Actually, no, oh, please.

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I mean, I go to these things. I
do the same thing you just

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described, which is I'm walking
having to be in the area and

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there's an art opening. And I go
in before it opens I'm saying

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oh, what's going on eyes? Oh.
Oh, is what's in so you should

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come out. Yeah, okay. Yeah, you
get to like go, you get some

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free cheese and some lousy sharp

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plastic cup. Exactly. And then
everyone spits in your face. So

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anyway, so that I woke up this
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open. I got pinkeye whooping
cough measles. I don't know what

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I have is bad, bad bad. But I
have to say that I've been

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following everything that's
going on some a lot of

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mainstream follow which which
we've had to do. But, but the

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one thing I wanted as the
Olympics are closing today I I

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watched a little bit because I
kind of lost the fever but I was

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watching the women's you never
had the fever I had the fever in

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the beginning big time one day I
got it I got real fever for

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these the the team pursuit
speedskating Wow. That's that's

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fun to watch men,

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especially when they stumble.

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Well, yeah. When their skates
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absolutely. That's

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a good one. Yeah.

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But I saw late late late I saw
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You know, I don't give I don't
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sports. I watch the Super Bowl,
I might catch. You know, the

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World Series, the final game.
And and I watched a little bit

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of the Olympics and figure
skating. So But Bob Costas never

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really paid attention to him.
And of course, he wasn't on

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because he had double pinkeye I
think somebody went to an art

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opening. Yeah, he was he's got
to stay away from the art

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openings. And George, by the
way. We Friday night, Molly was

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in town, Molly wood, and we went
out for dinner. And we made

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almost made well, we made the
mistake. We got lucky. But we

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had oysters the night before and
important to thing or a travel,

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which was very dangerous. Just a
rule. And Mickey actually said,

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Oh, we didn't adhere to John's
rule. Never have oysters before

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an important day or travel. We
were okay. Anyway. So I see Bob

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Costas. And I had no idea. This
guy is a robot. The stuff he and

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the unbelievable. I'm trying to
think how it can explain.

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They get a little background,
Costas, who has been working in

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sports forever. And he's a
little sports sports jocks and

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therefore is a real wannabe.
He's got one of the smoothest

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deliveries in the world never
flubs he's,

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but what he's saying is the
writing. And he's and stupid.

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But the writing is always
stupid. But you can listen to

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him forever. And not here
anymore. They just couldn't read

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his own prompter because he was
blinded by this dumb. Right,

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exactly. That's why he couldn't
do the show because he couldn't

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see him off and they put

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Matt Lauer and a couple other
guys in it who were just

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realised when you watch these
other guys try to talk about

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this banality. This sort of
sports they can't get away with

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just as stupid as crap there is
they can't get away with even

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though I'm close, no to
mesmerising you the way Costas

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does. So as I'm watching,

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as I'm watching the coverage,
and he has Michaela Schifrin on,

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and this is an 18 year old girl.
She's like Taylor Swift, except

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you don't really want to have
sex with her. And she can't sing

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and she's really mentally 14.
But she's a fantastic skier.

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And, and, and I realise all that
he's showing is her parents

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freaking out in the stands. And
then they had a camera in her

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house back home and wherever she
lives. So they had given the

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family, a widescreen TV with a
camera in it. So they could

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record the family and relatives
cheering as she won. And that's

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really all they're showing. And
he is he is you know, when when

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you win the gold medal, and
you're, you've been trained by

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the International Olympic
Committee to talk the right way

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about the sponsors and you have
media training, she must have

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taken off or played hooky for
all of that, and Costas couldn't

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understand it. He's trying to
have a so called interview. And

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he's asking all these questions
and she's just coming back with

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completely she's, I think she
there was answers scripted, but

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she didn't realise she was
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certain point. Costas gets so
angry, he has the cue cards in

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his hand, like the little cards,
the index cards, he throws them

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in the air, and then said, Oh,
you go ahead and you you read

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the toss to the commercial. And
I recorded this.

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I've never seen Costas lose it.
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we're picking it up here as EB
and he's already had four

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minutes of her and he's had
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the game. She's not reading the
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appear on the prompter, or she's
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was, but he could not handle it.

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That so I didn't know they had
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were watching and they got a new
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watch the Olympics, but I didn't
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The Olympics look good in high
def. They do.

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And you looked especially good
out there today grabbing that

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gold medal. I mean, it was not
unexpected because you were

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highly touted coming in but it's
one thing to have a chance to be

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among the favourites and the
love thing to do but he's

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looking

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for the human interest story
here. He's really He's waiting

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for her to say yeah, you know, I
really I worked hard kill before

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I've been skiing forever
sacrifices, you know, my just

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you have the some some sibling
who has a horrible disease? I

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don't know, maybe not. So he's
he's digging, he's waiting for

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her to pick up on something and
say something nice.

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Is there a sense of relief
satisfaction? What's it like

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a lot of relief? For sure.
Especially after that Bob will

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the second run but I mean, for
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I'm just really tired, right? Is
a night race. So we start the

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day just later, but I'm

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not now she's going to make a
fundamental mistake which Costas

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digs in deeper and hates himself
for it, where they talk about

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what time they're recording this
and when it's being broadcast,

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because you never do that. You
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is not live and this is not
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It's, I don't know, one o'clock
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It's about 2am Sochi time. It's,

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like 36 hours past my bedtime.

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Is she doing She's ruining my
interview?

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But 2am Sochi time as we tape
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it's just after 1am on the east
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York and LA and we're confusing
everyone.

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Oh, yeah. Good luck figuring
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no, I'm really this is right
now. I'm gonna clenching my butt

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cheeks and like, Oh, this is so
bad. This is like the worst

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interview ever excited.

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And I mean, that's, I can't I
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but uh,

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alright, so Costas is now he's
just he's going to throw a Hail

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Mary. And it's it basically it
falls drops after two feet. Are

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you too tired to party?

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Yes.

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By the way, when he said party,
she went into like an MK Ultra

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trance. You know, party. Yes.
I'm too tired to party. Is the

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party talking with you as a
party talking with you as the

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party? This is where he loses
it. John, when she says the

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cause of talking with you as a
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oil boy, you got to have some
data not to look forward to.

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They're really good night's rest
than a party tomorrow.

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I mean, you are the best thing I
could look forward to.

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Thank you so much. You're
welcome one.

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I don't need those. Just you
throw it to commercial. It says

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it right there. Go ahead.

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What are the Why would he do
this? The only reason I can

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think he's making her throat to
commercials because she was not

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reading the prompter the whole
time or something like this? Ah,

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it was it was really weird.

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It is weird. And then

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and then she actually, it could
also be that they want to hire

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her to do commentary or
something. Well, yeah, no, this

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is a date that they wouldn't
hire her. She's too young. Oh,

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yeah. Have a work permit.

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Susanna Guthrie is smart. I'm
sorry.

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Suzanne like this? Well,

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she's pretty close, but she's
really close. Anyway, I just

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thought that was weird. He was
throwing the cue cards and

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getting all pissed off. And
yeah, Billie Jean King had a

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little thing to say. I don't
know if of course the Dutch won

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the most medals in the 18th ever
competition thing, even one team

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since the Ice Age.

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As everyone's talking about
that, well, it's because they're

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ice skaters are just don't
worry. Yes, guys, but

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that's what we do. And Putin
came over to I think her name

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was Woolshed Wooster. I forget
her name. Who was they tried to

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actually make her stand up for
gay rights. I think she's

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bisexual or lesbian. I know
she's openly something. And

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Putin came over to the Holland
house, which is where we party.

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We're well known for our parties
as Dutch. And and he hugs her.

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And this is big news over there
in the Olympic village

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of Vladimir Putin's visit to the
Holland house. I don't know if

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you saw this earlier. The guy
who's one of the Dutch speed

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skaters want to go metal Irene
boost and he went and saw her

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and she's openly gay at the
Holland house and gave her a big

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hug. I think I

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saw a little bit of that just
real quick. I thought that was

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great. Did he know what she's
gay? I think he didn't know she

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was gay. Good for him. He knows
deep down how

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sad is this?

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This is pathetic so sad. You
know that he's human being in

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their human being that's great.
That's good for you. Baby yeah

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girlfriend. That's so pathetic
this

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Yeah, and something about the
Holland house early in our

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coverage of this bullcrap. Yeah
that everyone's weeks and weeks

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ago. Yeah,

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that Heineken was supplying it
and everywhere it was like oh

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Heineken should not supply the
beer for the All right was the

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Heineken and the beer. The
funniest thing that I have here

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from the from the Olympics is
morning, Joe, as of course

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Ukraine, kind of sort of look
the play was on we saw something

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happen we're not sure exactly
was real or not. and Mika

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Brzezinski, whose father is

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basically the architect of all
of this realisation. He has a

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couple of interesting books you
might want to check out.

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She works for MSNBC. And she was
very adamant about all these

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horrible people making money off
of this tragedy, have three

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flashpoints across the globe
right now, Ukraine, in very

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vivid terms, Syria, where the
bloodshed goes on just horrific

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levels, crimes against humanity
being committed. And then, of

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course, Iran, who looks like
they're going to walk away from

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the table and move towards
nuclear weapons. What's the

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common denominator in all three
of those world crises? Vladimir

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Putin, what's the United States
response? What's the President

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going to say? What's the
Secretary of State going to say?

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Once the United States
government going to say, what

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are we going to do? Tell
aggressively? Are we going to

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work against Vladimir Putin?
That's the question.

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Well, I think you add to that
question, what about all the

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people making a lot of money at
the Olympics,

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the people performing, they're
the people competing, they're

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the people sponsoring there.
What are they going to do? Why

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are they there?

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Is this okay?

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I'm just curious.

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How about NBC? You did?

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Who is that guy?

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That's Joe Scarborough.

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And this is on MSNBC. Right?
Yeah.

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But But yes, so she's, uh, first
of all, he's doing exactly what

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he should do is covering up the
fact that the United States and

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other actors are making all the
rubble. So he's doing his job,

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but then she's so ditzy. She's
basically saying, Oh, we

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shouldn't be making any money,
including my own company.

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I thought she was being there.
It sounded to me as though she's

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being sympathetic.

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Since you put this dumb,

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no, no, it sounded like she was
saying, what about all we can't

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be mean to Putin? Because what
about all these people that have

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jobs? Because if you'll No,

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no, no, she's saying it's crazy.
It's it's detestable that all

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these people are making money
off of Putin. Putin is enabling

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it. That's what she say. Oh,

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would you I'm not hearing it
that way. Okay, that's the way I

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heard it. Well played again. I
would be interested in listening

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with your perspective.

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Okay. Well, I'll take his part
out because his part is off.

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I got his we know what he's
doing.

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But all the people making a lot
of money at the Olympics, the

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people performing there, the
people competing, they're the

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people sponsoring there. What
are they going to do? Why are

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they there? Is this okay? I'm
just curious, if kind of

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strange, isn't it? Yes. It's

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very strange. Wait a minute.
He's an evil dictator. And we're

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making layers

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in a hole? Yeah. There was a guy
on the PBS NewsHour that wrote a

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book called Russia. And it
describes the people of Russia

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and the problem with Russia. And
he discusses a little bit about

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this, including some interesting
factoids. A Russian book guy

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too. I would like to go over
this guy's little commentary,

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because in part two of it, he
brings up a couple of

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interesting points that I don't
think anybody really reflects on

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to any extreme, and it leads me
to discuss the curry divorce and

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divorce consulting.
Possibilities. Do

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you want me to play one or two?

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Well, let's play one. So we get
a little background on this

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thing. And in my many travels
across Russia, it seems to me

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that Russian behaviour is
understandable. And there are

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patterns behind it.

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Well, so let's, let's look at
that through the guise of the

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Olympics, right, because we're
seeing the Olympics from the

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opening ceremonies to the state
the whole stage and how does

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this Russia that you see
manifest itself?

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Well, I think the Olympics are a
very traditional Russian event.

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I mean, this is a country that
has built a St. Petersburg to be

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the European city on a swamp,
professed it wanted to spread

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communism around the world. The
Olympics, in a way are another

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grandiose project to try to
catch up to the west. But I

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think what really characterises
these games to me is that they

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show how much Russia actually
lags because if you look at

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what's going on in Russia,
Moscow may be full of luxury

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cars and fancy restaurants
thanks to the riches from

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Russia's vast energy wealth. But
you don't have to go to Siberia,

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you can just drive 50 miles
outside of Moscow and see the

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countryside that's literally
dying. I visited many villages

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where there were two, sometimes
even one elderly person living

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in what used to be villages on
muddy tracks and the poverty

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alcoholism. Um, disease in many
ways Russia is heading toward

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crisis.

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Has he ever been to Albuquerque?
I don't want to say too much.

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But yeah. You don't have to
drive too far here either to get

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somewhere that alcoholism and
dirt road stuff.

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Yeah. Well, he goes on He does
have a couple of and he has an

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interesting thesis, which I
think is interesting for for the

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one reason that it? Well, we
have to play this clip, which is

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a little long, but I have to say
it brings to mind a couple of

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interesting points that I think
I'd like to at least discuss for

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a minute with you two of

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the things that you write about
a lot and that and then again, I

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think we see in the Olympics
from your writing and others

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power and, and corruption. Tell
us tell us what you what you

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see. And again, how do they
manifest themselves in the

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Olympics?

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Well, we we've heard a lot about
corruption in this the Sochi

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Olympic Games, the most
expensive games ever more than

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$50 billion $7 billion are
reported to have gone to

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companies connected to one man,
this man happens to have been

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Putin's childhood friend and
former Judo partner. But I think

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what happens at the top reflects
what's going on in the rest of

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the country. A former central
banker said that in 2012 $50

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billion were spent illegally
outside of Russia. But it's more

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than that. I think that we have
this idea that

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I need to ask you can I you
might have been interrupted here

447
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for a moment. No, go ahead. This
the whole corruption thing,

448
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:35,340
which I've now heard this 50
Sometimes it's 51. I've heard

449
00:26:35,340 --> 00:26:41,160
people say $52 billion
corruption from who we who gives

450
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,430
a crap, you know, it's not like
we all pitch in and sent money

451
00:26:44,430 --> 00:26:47,250
to the Olympics, and he's
ripping us off. I mean, it's

452
00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:49,140
it's a huge building. Oh, no, I
agree

453
00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:51,690
with that. And that's where it's
it was leading. Yeah. Okay, by

454
00:26:51,690 --> 00:26:54,450
the way. Yeah. Okay, so the
Russians have blimey Scott's 50

455
00:26:54,450 --> 00:26:57,120
billion and a bunch of it went
to his buddy. So all the rest of

456
00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:00,060
it's really none of our business
the way they do do things. But

457
00:27:00,060 --> 00:27:03,210
when you finalise this, that,
that's when the point will be

458
00:27:03,210 --> 00:27:04,290
made. Okay? Putin has

459
00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:08,610
ruled according to a social
contract. According to which, as

460
00:27:08,610 --> 00:27:12,210
long as living standards keep
rising, the Kremlin is more or

461
00:27:12,210 --> 00:27:15,720
less free to be as authoritarian
as it likes. I don't think

462
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,370
that's quite true. I think the
glue binding Putin's regime to

463
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,640
the Russian people is
corruption, because bribery

464
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,990
involves everybody.

465
00:27:25,050 --> 00:27:27,630
Well, that's what I was gonna
ask him. Why is it accepted and

466
00:27:27,630 --> 00:27:31,440
explain that? Why would
corruption be the glue? If if

467
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,700
there is, and I recently spoke
to Masha Gessen about her her

468
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:39,210
new book about Pussy Riot and we
see the riot some of the members

469
00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:43,800
showing up in Sochi, and we've
had some reports of being

470
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,860
attacked for it. The general
population seems at least from

471
00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:52,650
the outside to accept the
system.

472
00:27:52,980 --> 00:27:56,910
Sure, because they're part of
the system. I was saying about

473
00:27:56,910 --> 00:28:00,780
how Russia has Russians have
practical motives for acting the

474
00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:05,310
way they do. I think that this
glue binding the system

475
00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:09,330
together, as I said, is bribery.
Everybody has to pay a bribe. If

476
00:28:09,330 --> 00:28:13,170
you drive a car, you will
certainly have to pay a bribe.

477
00:28:13,380 --> 00:28:15,870
When you're stopped by a traffic
policeman, which happens almost

478
00:28:15,870 --> 00:28:20,790
every day. If you're the owner
of a corner store, for example,

479
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,870
you have to pay the fire safety
inspector, the health inspector,

480
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:28,080
the building code inspector,
everybody pays bribes. And I

481
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,170
think bribery not only coerces
people because it enables the

482
00:28:31,170 --> 00:28:35,460
authorities to prosecute almost
everybody, it also co ops

483
00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:39,060
people. Because if you if you're
paying a bribe, you get

484
00:28:39,060 --> 00:28:42,090
something out of it. If you're
the corner store owner, and

485
00:28:42,090 --> 00:28:45,270
you're paying the police to
ensure that no harm comes to

486
00:28:45,270 --> 00:28:47,220
your business, you feel that
you've got something over the

487
00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:49,710
competition a couple blocks
away, man has he had

488
00:28:49,710 --> 00:28:55,650
these guys ever been to Italy?
And this or? Yes. Okay, so

489
00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:58,710
here's here's, here's the way
I'm looking at this because the

490
00:28:58,710 --> 00:29:02,370
Jaycees friend who was living in
the in Ukraine for a long time,

491
00:29:02,790 --> 00:29:07,140
he would talked about this, and
you would commonly be bing, bing

492
00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:10,050
cops constantly. And it was
like, Whatever happened, you

493
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:12,480
just paid them off. And it was
they would make things run

494
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,330
smoothly, things did run
smoothly. I think it's a public

495
00:29:15,330 --> 00:29:20,190
relations problem. I think the
way bribery is done in some of

496
00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:21,990
these Eastern European
countries, which is just

497
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:24,690
endemic, and part of the system,
which is what's always

498
00:29:24,690 --> 00:29:27,510
overlooked. It's literally part
of the system the way it works,

499
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:30,600
these guys don't get paid enough
this has to happen. I just think

500
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,970
it needs to be renamed. And this
is why they should people should

501
00:29:32,970 --> 00:29:36,330
hire us once in a while to open
tipping.

502
00:29:38,190 --> 00:29:44,790
And we have an app for that on
iOS as Android apps for that.

503
00:29:46,650 --> 00:29:48,780
Yes. What is the problem

504
00:29:48,810 --> 00:29:52,710
await? When you go to a
restaurant? Why do you leave a

505
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:53,040
tip

506
00:29:53,070 --> 00:29:58,020
for bribery? I'm bribing you.
Hold on. Very good. We bribe

507
00:29:58,020 --> 00:30:02,550
people all the time for the
better at our table for the day

508
00:30:02,550 --> 00:30:08,340
get in the front lines
everywhere Of course we do of

509
00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:12,000
course we do a tip What are
doughnuts for cops? What is that

510
00:30:12,030 --> 00:30:14,970
that's not bribery oh that's
bribery

511
00:30:15,870 --> 00:30:19,440
that's rare so called you know
the cops that don't take Fritos

512
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,780
are called thin ah

513
00:30:23,730 --> 00:30:26,790
okay well and this was I want to
get PBS on I

514
00:30:27,030 --> 00:30:29,970
was on the NewsHour yeah and
these guys got this book might

515
00:30:29,970 --> 00:30:32,910
be worth reading is a very
interesting character and he was

516
00:30:32,910 --> 00:30:36,060
trying to let us the American
public doesn't know crap about

517
00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:39,720
Russia no no and we have all
these these preconceived notions

518
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,840
I mean I have the stereotypes I
get a big kick out of him you

519
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,230
know hookers from the Ukraine
and all the rest of that there's

520
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:50,130
that by the way like the
premature ageing phenomenon that

521
00:30:50,130 --> 00:30:56,790
you run into there well yeah
open tipping if they would just

522
00:30:56,790 --> 00:31:02,640
get a pump in Russia got a clue
i like it he'll you know get to

523
00:31:02,670 --> 00:31:05,940
WP peace boys out there and they
can fix the whole thing up

524
00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:10,470
i like it i think i think it's a
good hey there we're talking

525
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:13,500
about Pussy Riot is the music
video out yet cuz I looked at

526
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:18,180
that that footage again. This is
the music video. The whole this

527
00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:20,640
is the whole thing was a music
video shoot.

528
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,390
Oh, right. It had to be that
because those guys those phoney

529
00:31:24,390 --> 00:31:27,960
baloney Cossacks know this. And
they were actors and they were

530
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,010
hitting the girls on the ass.
Yeah, whatever that that piece

531
00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:36,060
of rope was which was real cops
that use a baton and be beaten

532
00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:36,480
the crap

533
00:31:37,050 --> 00:31:41,820
would be over in two seconds of
now. Now this this was the music

534
00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:46,020
video. And it's funny to me that
AP and everyone all was all in

535
00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:51,000
on it. And then they rough up
one guy with the camera. No, of

536
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,340
course that's part of it is that
we're gonna this is the guy

537
00:31:53,340 --> 00:31:57,120
you're supposed to hit. Who's
this? Free Press. And then one

538
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,570
of these so called Cosmic guys.
He was actually filming himself,

539
00:32:00,570 --> 00:32:05,190
you know? So you'll see his
footage in there is I mean, come

540
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:10,380
on people. And by the way, let's
Ukraine for a moment, just for a

541
00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:13,590
moment here. So I'm watching
everything unfold. And this is

542
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:18,600
very interesting, because
whenever you can have bring back

543
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,200
an actor who, you know who has
distinct features. It's always

544
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,970
great for ratings. So this is
why we bring back Yulia

545
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,790
Tymoshenko with that crazy

546
00:32:30,270 --> 00:32:34,770
size. Besides being an
attractive female. She wears a

547
00:32:34,770 --> 00:32:39,510
crown when anybody noticed that
she's wearing a crown. Yeah,

548
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:43,950
well, she's insane. But she's
insane. I mean, I don't think

549
00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:47,550
anyone knows what where she's
from. She was she was at one

550
00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:50,850
point maybe she still is the
richest woman in Ukraine. You

551
00:32:50,850 --> 00:32:54,420
know, she's the gas princess.
And she and she was thrown in

552
00:32:54,420 --> 00:32:58,020
jail and convicted because, you
know, she took out contracts on

553
00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:01,830
people and had them killed. Now,
there's a reason why all this

554
00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:07,560
happened. She is completely pro
EU. And she's always been pro EU

555
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,230
and so that didn't work out for
her and they threw her in the

556
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:13,530
brake and now all of a sudden, I
mean, here, here's what here's

557
00:33:13,530 --> 00:33:22,050
what I saw happening. There's, I
didn't see police with brutal

558
00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:24,810
act, and not none of any video
that I've seen. I didn't see

559
00:33:24,810 --> 00:33:28,170
police killing protesters. I saw
protesters beating the crap out

560
00:33:28,170 --> 00:33:32,610
of police, or so called
protesters. And there's this one

561
00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:37,590
guy who is in every single
picture all footage, I'm sure

562
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:40,620
you've seen the guy's got one of
those goofy helmets on and he's

563
00:33:40,620 --> 00:33:45,030
got like a it's like a drape
like a curtain as a cape. Have

564
00:33:45,030 --> 00:33:45,780
you seen this guy?

565
00:33:47,130 --> 00:33:51,810
Probably he's an old one. The
guy saw over and over again had

566
00:33:51,810 --> 00:33:54,390
a had a gay rights hat.

567
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,360
No, no, no, I didn't see that
guy. No, I'm talking with

568
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,750
frontline guy, frontline. He's
got like a tablecloth or a

569
00:34:00,750 --> 00:34:03,420
curtain or something. And you
see him and he's age at the

570
00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:07,350
Presidential home. He's on the
barricades. He's in he's in

571
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:12,900
every this guy is very
recognisable, you'll see him and

572
00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:17,910
when you really see what is
going on here on the stage where

573
00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:26,520
we had the so called protesters
at the airport doing similar

574
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:29,400
like a CITIZENS ARREST on
politicians who were trying to

575
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,490
escape as a no no, no, no,
you're coming back and you're

576
00:34:32,490 --> 00:34:37,410
voting on these laws. I mean,
come on. This is coercion. Is

577
00:34:37,410 --> 00:34:41,490
it? Yeah. And one of them is to
pop this this woman out of jail.

578
00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:45,090
And then she's up there like
yeah, oh, like she's like she's

579
00:34:45,090 --> 00:34:51,360
the chosen one. And this is this
is really really really obvious

580
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,490
what's happening here. This is
not okay.

581
00:34:56,969 --> 00:35:00,209
I want to exchange one corrupt
group with another well here is

582
00:35:00,509 --> 00:35:03,569
a an I want to joke of it is,
you know, they want to put near

583
00:35:03,569 --> 00:35:06,119
this a Russian pro Russian guy
than they want some pro

584
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:10,379
Ukrainian guy. The joke of it is
with this woman. And I only

585
00:35:10,379 --> 00:35:13,169
looked this up because I was
looking at her says she's 53

586
00:35:13,169 --> 00:35:16,079
women in the Ukraine, and you
can talk to people that live

587
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:19,469
there. And it's not necessarily
a bad stereotype, but they look

588
00:35:19,469 --> 00:35:22,949
like they're 70 When they hit 30
Yeah, it's just something and

589
00:35:22,949 --> 00:35:25,349
there's a long explanation for
genetically why this happens.

590
00:35:25,439 --> 00:35:29,429
She's 5354 55 She looks like
she's 20

591
00:35:29,550 --> 00:35:33,300
No, not anymore. John. She did
you look at her on? She doesn't

592
00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:36,810
look as old as she would not.
She doesn't look to me. Yeah,

593
00:35:36,810 --> 00:35:38,850
but she does not look 20 No.

594
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:42,270
Well, she compared to the women
in the Ukraine. I mean, no

595
00:35:42,270 --> 00:35:45,150
offence to the Ukrainians, but
they know what I'm talking. She

596
00:35:45,150 --> 00:35:48,090
doesn't have a moustache. Yeah,
that was that. So she's under

597
00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:52,080
Latvian and Latvia has got this
weird. You know, they have the

598
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,220
blonde parade. And it's a weird
place. But for women,

599
00:35:56,730 --> 00:35:59,490
just just the whole thing was
such an obvious setup. I got

600
00:35:59,490 --> 00:36:04,170
this, I watch them Al Jazeera
America. And they called in

601
00:36:04,170 --> 00:36:08,490
Skype to some local blogger who
either who knows what side of

602
00:36:08,490 --> 00:36:12,450
the spectrum she's on this
particular reporter, but she

603
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,670
just gave her an interesting
little rundown of a few things I

604
00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:16,170
think we should listen to
because it was not the

605
00:36:16,170 --> 00:36:17,430
mainstream messaging.

606
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,820
Now to the breaking news out of
Europe, a situation changing by

607
00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:23,730
the hour and about the time it
takes to ship a package from New

608
00:36:23,730 --> 00:36:26,940
York to California anti
government protesters in Ukraine

609
00:36:26,970 --> 00:36:27,720
have taken

610
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:30,180
I'm not sure I don't know which
clip this is Hold on a second.

611
00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:34,230
Let's listen to this anyways,
sounds kind of interesting about

612
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:35,490
the time it takes to ship a
package to

613
00:36:35,490 --> 00:36:38,910
your kyiv's Main Square, seize
control of the president's

614
00:36:38,940 --> 00:36:41,820
office and today begun the
formation of a new and very

615
00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:45,360
fragile government, one week of
unofficial war, and this

616
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,180
morning, opposition protesters
are commonly restoring a new

617
00:36:48,180 --> 00:36:51,900
kind of order. They began to
revolution three months ago, but

618
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:54,450
the real work happened in just
days.

619
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,170
I'm sorry. This is my clip of
listen to how neatly it's all

620
00:36:58,170 --> 00:37:00,300
packaged up for the idiots in
the West.

621
00:37:00,420 --> 00:37:03,810
Ukraine's president who has been
MIA appeared in a TV interview

622
00:37:03,810 --> 00:37:06,930
calling the revolution a coup
comparing it to the Nazi

623
00:37:06,930 --> 00:37:10,170
invasion of Germany. There have
been conflicting reports about

624
00:37:10,170 --> 00:37:13,050
whether or not he is resigning.
We know that President Viktor

625
00:37:13,050 --> 00:37:16,470
Yetta COVID his office and his
very elaborate compound have now

626
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:20,310
been seized. I want to bring in
NBCs Richard Engel who is live

627
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:20,970
on the phone I'm

628
00:37:20,970 --> 00:37:24,060
sorry, no, this is this is this
is the Richard angle. Remember,

629
00:37:24,060 --> 00:37:28,080
this is the guy who did the fake
report about being hacked in

630
00:37:29,010 --> 00:37:32,310
while he was in some cafe in
Moscow, but the whole report was

631
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:35,760
bullcrap was bull crap. Yeah. So
angles is compromised.

632
00:37:35,790 --> 00:37:39,540
So So here's here he is, he's
now he's he's not staying for

633
00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:43,110
the rest of the Olympics in
Sochi. Oh, no, no, no. I mean,

634
00:37:43,110 --> 00:37:47,280
he's he's on he's boots on the
ground now in case he ever in

635
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,540
Sochi? Well, that no, I think he
was only in Moscow. And so now

636
00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:54,810
he's boots on the ground here.
So this Richard Engel is clearly

637
00:37:54,810 --> 00:37:58,080
part of the pundit programme
there from the agency

638
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,020
from Kyiv. With the very latest,
Richard is it too early to say

639
00:38:01,020 --> 00:38:02,940
the President's regime has been
toppled?

640
00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:08,310
I think it's fair to say that a
revolution has taken place.

641
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,460
The revolution is taking place.
They are

642
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:17,430
70%. There. The capital is now
in the hands of the protesters.

643
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:21,000
The government buildings are in
the hands of the protesters. The

644
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,240
presidential offices are
occupied by demonstrators. The

645
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:27,660
police all of the Interior
Ministry forces have firmly come

646
00:38:27,660 --> 00:38:31,140
out in a statement saying they
are with the people. The army is

647
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:35,160
saying it will not get involved.
The President has had to flee

648
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,440
the capital city. Parliament has
taken over this has been a

649
00:38:40,620 --> 00:38:44,520
effectively a parliamentary coup
and the legislative block branch

650
00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:48,690
has ousted the executive branch.
And all day parliament has been

651
00:38:48,690 --> 00:38:52,800
being broadcasting their
processions on loudspeakers and

652
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,240
passing law after law. And to
answer your initial question,

653
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,690
the laws that they are passing,
which would normally require

654
00:39:00,690 --> 00:39:04,560
presidential approval are being
implemented. For example, they

655
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,720
passed a law to release Yulia to
chenko, who was a former prime

656
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:13,110
minister, main rival of the
president. She has been

657
00:39:13,110 --> 00:39:16,500
released. She is back in Kyiv.
And she's expected to address

658
00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:17,940
protesters any minute

659
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:22,230
so I can literally see Victoria
Nuland sitting there tonight get

660
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:25,770
those guys back from the airport
sit down all right, pass this

661
00:39:25,980 --> 00:39:29,370
pass this I mean would they just
wrote these laws in two minutes?

662
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:34,560
Come I found interesting was
they had a they some some I was

663
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,800
watching that one of the
networks they have B roll of the

664
00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:42,420
of the head guy what's his name
Yuschenko? Which clincher yets

665
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,120
are the other guy the the know
that guy was running the place

666
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:45,780
or trying to oust

667
00:39:45,810 --> 00:39:51,690
Victor. What we just call them
Victor v y Victor YVYV

668
00:39:51,690 --> 00:39:55,290
y so he's shown signing
something but then I saw this

669
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,330
and it was him. It was some B
roll somebody's done. Got with

670
00:40:00,330 --> 00:40:05,160
him filling out some the
Wednesday on his calendar. So I

671
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,560
thought that was so they don't
have any photos of this guy

672
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,470
seems to have disappeared. I
have. There was an interesting

673
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:16,080
thing on NPR PBS newshour where
they have we had one of the guys

674
00:40:16,110 --> 00:40:18,030
emerge from the Atlantic
Council.

675
00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:20,970
What is this? The think tank?

676
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,230
Yeah, it's kind of a real heavy
duty one too. It's one that we

677
00:40:25,230 --> 00:40:28,530
don't hear much from. It's the
Ukraine side note from the

678
00:40:28,530 --> 00:40:30,480
Atlantic Council guy, you might
want to play that for

679
00:40:30,569 --> 00:40:34,259
today in the My don use, they
use the chances to be Zeca

680
00:40:34,259 --> 00:40:38,669
hatch, which means con be gone.
X constancy served two terms in

681
00:40:38,669 --> 00:40:44,279
prison as a young man. And the
new chants are, you know, death

682
00:40:44,279 --> 00:40:48,419
to the prisoner. So they you
know, there is a call for a

683
00:40:48,419 --> 00:40:51,599
capital penalty, even though
Ukraine no longer has the death

684
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,719
penalty, but there is a rage out
there in the public. And I think

685
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,889
he is aware of that. It's been
said that some of his valuables

686
00:40:58,889 --> 00:41:01,709
are being removed from his
lavish residence north of gift,

687
00:41:01,889 --> 00:41:06,059
which has over 10 1000s square
100,000 Square Feet on these

688
00:41:06,209 --> 00:41:10,559
lavish ponds and lakes and in
which over $100 million has been

689
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:14,039
sunk valuables have been removed
from his offices and the

690
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:16,829
presidential administration. And
I don't even know if he's coming

691
00:41:16,829 --> 00:41:17,339
back.

692
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:20,700
I love how they do this. There's
no value missing. They're trying

693
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:25,470
to make it look like Saddam's
palace. Now. This guy, there was

694
00:41:25,470 --> 00:41:26,760
a democratic layer, the

695
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,580
this guy had a place. And if you
listen to the next report, which

696
00:41:29,580 --> 00:41:35,850
is the bald guy from France, Van
cat, who I think is plugged in

697
00:41:35,850 --> 00:41:38,820
enough to give us an interesting
thing. And give us some

698
00:41:38,820 --> 00:41:42,330
interesting insight. He has a
description of the guys, please

699
00:41:42,330 --> 00:41:45,540
I don't think that this is
bullshit about the deal.

700
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:49,560
They've been let down too many
times in the past, they feel

701
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,230
that there have been a lot of
false hopes, a lot of false

702
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:56,640
promises in the past. Times when
they felt perhaps they were on

703
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,220
the verge of perhaps the
President Viktor Yanukovych, who

704
00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:03,390
is the universal opposition's
perhaps biggest enemy, Public

705
00:42:03,390 --> 00:42:06,240
Enemy. Number one, the man that
they have wanted to resign to

706
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:09,630
step down immediately. That has
been their demand really, since

707
00:42:09,630 --> 00:42:14,130
day one of this three month
protests. And so there's a real

708
00:42:14,130 --> 00:42:17,430
sort of disconnect this morning
between on the one hand, the

709
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:21,000
political and the opposition
leaders calling this deal, a

710
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,060
triumph. And obviously many
respects, it does look very

711
00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:27,030
ambitious the early elections,
you're talking about the call

712
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:31,500
for constitutional change,
obviously the call for reforms

713
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:34,560
and a unity and national unity
government not to mention

714
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,230
amnesty for all of those who
have been a for all the

715
00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:38,760
protesters in those detained,

716
00:42:38,910 --> 00:42:42,360
I think and free chocolate for
everybody. I think that would

717
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,030
add nicely to the changes in
Ukraine.

718
00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:48,360
It's just not enough for many of
the people in this square. And

719
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,430
you don't have to talk about the
hardliners. Also the moderates.

720
00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:53,370
You have one group was actually
saying they will not lay down

721
00:42:53,370 --> 00:42:56,070
their arms. And they're calling
on Viktor Yanukovych to resign

722
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,890
by 10am. local time today,
that's just in a couple of

723
00:42:58,890 --> 00:42:59,430
hours.

724
00:42:59,490 --> 00:43:02,820
So talk in spite of these
concessions that are being made

725
00:43:02,820 --> 00:43:04,140
by President Yanukovych,

726
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:07,530
he's clearly under pressure here
to resign. How likely is that to

727
00:43:07,530 --> 00:43:09,240
happen? Not at all.

728
00:43:11,070 --> 00:43:13,680
I'll tell you what is under
pressure, but he's not in Kyiv.

729
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,580
This morning, according to two
most reports the left key of

730
00:43:17,580 --> 00:43:21,090
overnight, he is he hasn't fled
the Capitol, although there is

731
00:43:21,090 --> 00:43:23,760
some rumours on the internet
that that's what he's done. He's

732
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,030
in Harkey, which is a town in
the east of Ukraine, according

733
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:30,150
to the reports, a town where he
is seen as more of a bastion of

734
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:32,730
his support, although that
support, as we know, has been

735
00:43:32,730 --> 00:43:36,540
dwindling across the country,
not just in the West, which is

736
00:43:36,540 --> 00:43:39,450
much more with the opposition,
but also in his traditional

737
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,110
bastions in the east. Now, his
supporters basically saying that

738
00:43:43,110 --> 00:43:45,390
this is normal business as
usual. He's just touching,

739
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,510
touching base with his base and
his supporters. But there's a

740
00:43:48,510 --> 00:43:51,000
lot of speculation Why isn't he
on the Capitol the day after

741
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,910
these historic accords? He is a
weekend man, that is

742
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:57,330
indisputable. The question is,
what is he going to do next?

743
00:43:57,330 --> 00:43:59,760
What are his next moves? And how
quickly will he abide by the

744
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,130
terms of this agreement signed
yesterday?

745
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,040
Now I think it's great. It's
this is an at this point. It is

746
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,160
a complete media. It's just now
they're just rolling out the

747
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,920
media plan. It doesn't make any
difference what really happens

748
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,540
anymore. It's just whatever the
media decides is going to be it

749
00:44:15,540 --> 00:44:16,500
is going yeah, this

750
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:20,490
is what this was sent to the
beginning. Yeah. Well, I just

751
00:44:20,490 --> 00:44:23,880
knew I did get this whole thing
as a media. It was at the end of

752
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,320
the clip. Yeah. Oh, well, he
describes his 100,000 square

753
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,850
foot residence, which was not it
was not in that one. Now in

754
00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:35,700
Atlantic, the Atlantic, the
Atlantic Council, by the way,

755
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:39,900
which is, seems to be an anti
Soviet operation that's involved

756
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:42,390
with a bunch of these Eastern
European countries. There's a

757
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:44,940
couple of things I noticed I
wanted to point out. One is that

758
00:44:45,780 --> 00:44:49,020
if you're the way you spell
Kyiv, how do you spell key F?

759
00:44:49,530 --> 00:44:52,380
I believe it's k i EV.

760
00:44:52,859 --> 00:44:54,959
That's the way the Russians
would spell it.

761
00:44:54,990 --> 00:44:56,700
I'm a pinko commie.

762
00:44:57,509 --> 00:45:03,179
Now, if you're Ukrainian, you'd
spell it Ky, KY IV right? And

763
00:45:03,179 --> 00:45:06,929
the pronunciation is slightly
different to that's Kyiv Kyiv

764
00:45:06,929 --> 00:45:10,409
can can there's and then I don't
have the clip I'm going to try

765
00:45:10,409 --> 00:45:14,189
to get it because I couldn't I
couldn't I was just an issue I

766
00:45:14,189 --> 00:45:20,609
had some technical issue of I
had a Newland spoke to a group

767
00:45:20,609 --> 00:45:23,639
of oil executives and right
behind her by there was a huge

768
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:25,169
Chevron logo how

769
00:45:25,170 --> 00:45:28,560
convenient well we know Chevron
got the got a big contract to

770
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,360
drilling in Ukraine.

771
00:45:30,990 --> 00:45:33,720
And I don't know if she's doing
this on purpose or what but she

772
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:39,780
pronounces it Kyiv No, no, I
believe she I tell

773
00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:41,880
her that would have been clipper
the day what do you mean

774
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,050
technical issue?

775
00:45:43,379 --> 00:45:48,449
I said long story but I'll get
it. All right. But she says key

776
00:45:48,449 --> 00:45:50,459
but she says that a couple of
times. And I'm wondering she's

777
00:45:50,459 --> 00:45:52,799
talking about either she's
talking about something else.

778
00:45:52,889 --> 00:45:57,869
I'm good. Or she's got a quarter
codeword Oh, she's an idiot.

779
00:45:57,990 --> 00:46:02,040
No, I it's coded you know, she's
not an idiot. Nuland is no

780
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,360
moron. But she's also you know,
she's the one else who says

781
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:10,470
klatch, and yachts and she's got
all our little little shortcut.

782
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:11,700
And you know me shorthand

783
00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:15,450
names. Yeah, she just says, Kev,
Kev. So I got some of this keep

784
00:46:15,450 --> 00:46:16,710
it's kind of keep I got some

785
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:22,350
inside information. First of all
the reasons just backing up a

786
00:46:22,350 --> 00:46:31,230
little bit. The reason why you
could Shenko V. V. Why the

787
00:46:31,230 --> 00:46:36,000
president? The reason why he
backed out of the UK, UK, UK

788
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,330
Shimanami. Yeah, yeah, Ana
COVID. Anna COVID. The reason

789
00:46:39,330 --> 00:46:43,260
why the reason why he backed out
is in the agreement that the EU

790
00:46:43,260 --> 00:46:48,360
handed to them was a security
clause, which effectively made

791
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,430
them a a an acting member of
NATO. So that's what this really

792
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:56,160
is all about. And that's
understandable. Yeah, no, this

793
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,460
is the reason why he flipped
flowers. No, of course not. And

794
00:46:59,580 --> 00:47:02,730
it was just gonna put up with
that, oh, it's a security clause

795
00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:03,390
and like making

796
00:47:03,390 --> 00:47:07,050
Kentucky a part of the Warsaw
Pact. And of

797
00:47:07,050 --> 00:47:10,950
course, there's the Crimea,
where the Black Sea Fleet is now

798
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:14,070
you brought this up on on
Thursday that there's, you know,

799
00:47:14,070 --> 00:47:16,830
there's this port down in the
south. This is where the black

800
00:47:16,830 --> 00:47:20,130
fleet, the Russian Black Sea,
Black Sea Fleet is stationed are

801
00:47:20,130 --> 00:47:23,220
part of it. There's no way that
you can just say, Oh, yes, no

802
00:47:23,220 --> 00:47:26,550
worries, Ukraine now has a NATO
security agreement. That's not

803
00:47:26,550 --> 00:47:27,390
going to happen.

804
00:47:27,660 --> 00:47:30,630
You know, the, there's a funny
history behind that Republic of

805
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:35,250
Crimea. I just ran into,
apparently, it was it was put

806
00:47:35,250 --> 00:47:38,460
in. If it was me, it was always
Russia. It was always part of

807
00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:44,730
Russia, this little area. And
Khrushchev when he was the

808
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:50,550
premier, whatever he was the
head of Russia. He gave that

809
00:47:50,550 --> 00:47:55,980
chunk of land to the Ukrainians,
because it was no because he was

810
00:47:55,980 --> 00:48:01,080
a Ukrainian himself. And he
thought it would be a good thing

811
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,470
for him to Oh, interesting. I
thought that was so it's really

812
00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:05,430
always been Russia.

813
00:48:05,759 --> 00:48:09,269
Well, that. So there's, there's
a couple of things. And now my

814
00:48:09,269 --> 00:48:12,809
understanding is that, that
really, there was some kind of

815
00:48:12,809 --> 00:48:17,699
agreement somewhere. And I'm
thinking Germany, Germany, and

816
00:48:17,699 --> 00:48:21,539
Russia. And I have a very strong
feeling that there is something

817
00:48:21,539 --> 00:48:26,069
big going on between Moscow and
Berlin. And the idea was that

818
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:29,549
they were going to somehow they
had some agreement about

819
00:48:29,549 --> 00:48:32,789
Ukraine, and something went
wrong. And it started really,

820
00:48:34,439 --> 00:48:39,419
with the Russians killing all
the Polish government. Now, this

821
00:48:39,419 --> 00:48:41,129
happened in 2011. I

822
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,760
think we I don't know, we were
all over the I think it was

823
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,620
2011, and assassinations of the
leftover bodies. Just everyone

824
00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:49,740
was

825
00:48:49,740 --> 00:48:52,890
just gone. And this was supposed
to connect. And of course,

826
00:48:52,890 --> 00:48:57,480
Poland connects very nicely to
Ukraine. And all of that

827
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,290
connects through to Germany. And
there was and somehow I think

828
00:49:01,290 --> 00:49:04,230
Putin got shanghaied I'm not
sure it's somewhere up some

829
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:07,080
power chains. Not quite sure
what happened, but from what

830
00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:13,680
the, some of our insiders have
told me, the 2012 European

831
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:19,500
football championships were held
in Ukraine. And this is when all

832
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:25,710
of the actors came in. As
advisors for you know, how we

833
00:49:25,710 --> 00:49:30,540
should set up the media and
advisors for the buildings, etc.

834
00:49:31,230 --> 00:49:36,210
And I can actually point to Paul
Ron's Heimer, he's a German

835
00:49:37,710 --> 00:49:41,730
German journalist, and he's this
guy is on the ground with

836
00:49:41,730 --> 00:49:47,460
Klitschko. He's everywhere. You
can see you can kind of see that

837
00:49:47,460 --> 00:49:52,320
there's certain men members of
the press have are on the

838
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,400
inside. I mean, seriously, just
travelling with these guys.

839
00:49:57,150 --> 00:50:01,830
Well, the press has always been
known to hit too. to camouflage

840
00:50:01,830 --> 00:50:04,110
poorly I might add spies.

841
00:50:04,170 --> 00:50:10,170
So now let's look at something
we're seeing all these shots of

842
00:50:10,170 --> 00:50:14,280
Ukraine whose video is this? And
then we have cameras in

843
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,420
strategic locations. We've got
the stages we've got microphones

844
00:50:18,420 --> 00:50:21,480
amplification, Where's all this
coming from? From these people

845
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:27,720
with curtains and single shot
rifles, you know, come on. This

846
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:32,880
is a professional operation and
it's being shot very, very

847
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:33,780
professionally.

848
00:50:34,410 --> 00:50:38,010
Curiously, I think it was
Showtime or somebody they've

849
00:50:38,010 --> 00:50:39,750
been playing wag the dog a lot

850
00:50:40,770 --> 00:50:42,750
one of my favourite movies I
like it like just

851
00:50:42,750 --> 00:50:45,570
like you know I there's a bunch
of things about them you know

852
00:50:45,570 --> 00:50:48,720
which last time you saw that but
you know I got along a couple

853
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:52,710
years ago maybe yeah, they're
they're so deep that I watched

854
00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:55,200
them say I don't remember this
scene I don't remember the part

855
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,370
about the shoes

856
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,480
they someone had the wrong shoes
on and they changed them and

857
00:51:01,319 --> 00:51:03,599
remember the part about the
shoes either? No I don't have a

858
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:06,359
guide that was that was
supposedly behind the enemy

859
00:51:06,359 --> 00:51:09,869
lines it was who's the psycho
Woody Harrelson Yeah, are they

860
00:51:09,869 --> 00:51:14,339
called him shoe? And so they so
they came up with this idea of

861
00:51:14,399 --> 00:51:17,999
of tying shoes or US shoes
together and throwing them over

862
00:51:18,629 --> 00:51:21,989
telephone lines and everything
all over this country. So the

863
00:51:21,989 --> 00:51:25,049
whole country was having these
to celebrate shoe and ringing

864
00:51:25,049 --> 00:51:27,779
bell. Yes, I do remember that.
Yeah, of course. And it was like

865
00:51:28,049 --> 00:51:31,409
this movie. People have to go
watch this movie. Again. It is

866
00:51:31,409 --> 00:51:33,329
just phenomenal. It's when

867
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,450
Chroma Key was done on blue
screen before it became green

868
00:51:36,450 --> 00:51:39,270
screen. That's how old the movie
is. Yeah, it's

869
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:41,220
pretty old. Yeah. Well, anyway,
so

870
00:51:41,250 --> 00:51:44,730
you know, I'm just looking at
this from a television

871
00:51:44,820 --> 00:51:48,150
perspective. I'm seeing the
shots I'm seeing you could think

872
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,900
they've got the the camera shots
up above you know, this was not

873
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:56,940
a YouTube revolution. This was a
professional job. With a

874
00:51:56,940 --> 00:51:58,380
professional that somewhere
there's

875
00:51:58,380 --> 00:52:01,170
a restaurant guys with eyeballs
and know what they're doing. As

876
00:52:01,170 --> 00:52:02,010
a director. There's

877
00:52:02,010 --> 00:52:05,100
a producer, there's uplink. So
there's a lot going on. This is

878
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:09,480
not this is not some country on
the brink of civil war. And

879
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,440
really not like Venezuela for
instance, or which is yes, yes.

880
00:52:13,470 --> 00:52:17,130
No feeds from there. No zero
United see no live shot there.

881
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:22,020
Or Bosnia Herzegovina, which is
wow, this is in play big time

882
00:52:22,110 --> 00:52:28,590
again. Ah. So yeah, so this,
this is very obvious. I think

883
00:52:28,590 --> 00:52:32,040
that tears will come. The
thinking that I'm getting from

884
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:39,480
people is sending in messages is
day after the Olympics. So

885
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,450
that's today, I believe it
closes, Putin may just have to

886
00:52:42,450 --> 00:52:45,270
do something. Could we can't
have this we're not going to

887
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:48,300
split it into. We're not going
to have no we're not going to do

888
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:50,940
any of that. This is this is
this is a nonstarter. My

889
00:52:50,940 --> 00:52:54,870
question is and this does go
along the lines of the clip that

890
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:57,690
you had about you know, what,
what is Russia? Is it really

891
00:52:57,690 --> 00:53:00,360
just Moscow, St. Petersburg, and
the rest is a dirt road with a

892
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,220
bunch of vodka drunks? Does
Putin really have the firepower?

893
00:53:05,220 --> 00:53:08,520
Does he really have the balls?
Or is he a paper tiger, you

894
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,450
know, is all of this posturing
this look at me with my shirt

895
00:53:12,450 --> 00:53:15,390
off is that because he really
doesn't have the military might

896
00:53:15,390 --> 00:53:19,230
the muscle the money, whatever
it is to go against the EU and

897
00:53:19,230 --> 00:53:22,380
NATO to strike back to say Screw
you guys.

898
00:53:23,130 --> 00:53:27,600
Well, first of all, that Ukraine
or the Ukraine, as you know,

899
00:53:27,630 --> 00:53:33,000
it's not the it's Ukraine,
Ukraine. Ukraine is not part of

900
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,060
NATO. So he can also waltz in
there. Was NATO supposed to do

901
00:53:36,060 --> 00:53:37,890
this, though? Are they going to
just start taking it upon

902
00:53:37,890 --> 00:53:41,310
themselves to say well, I think
Somalia let's go get them

903
00:53:41,310 --> 00:53:47,010
although they have done that
with Libya. Thank you. I think

904
00:53:47,010 --> 00:53:51,990
it would take a lot of nerve for
the NATO folks to all of a

905
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:56,490
sudden think they own the own
the Ukrainian Republic.

906
00:53:59,250 --> 00:54:01,920
Well, we shall see what the how
the script rolls out because

907
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,580
that is exactly what is what is
being said. Well, here's I got a

908
00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:09,060
little clip of I love when she
talks because she's the you

909
00:54:09,060 --> 00:54:12,660
know, the no chin monster. The
High Representative of the

910
00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:13,290
European the

911
00:54:13,290 --> 00:54:16,140
highest she's I didn't know that
she was doing I guess she's pro

912
00:54:16,140 --> 00:54:16,830
marijuana. I've

913
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,640
never understood why they call
her the High Representative. I

914
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,640
just, of course, Hillary Clinton
just called the High Priestess.

915
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:28,320
Yeah. Hillary Clinton just calls
her Kathy. But it's the Baroness

916
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,960
Ashton of the High
Representative the European

917
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,170
Union who I thought had left her
job but maybe that's just after

918
00:54:34,170 --> 00:54:39,570
these upcoming elections. And
she before we the script rolled

919
00:54:39,570 --> 00:54:41,790
out of here's all these laws
we've implemented all of a

920
00:54:41,790 --> 00:54:44,520
sudden she was coming out with
sanctions and just some

921
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,280
interesting to me interesting
talk.

922
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,970
It's absolutely clear that this
violence is completely

923
00:54:50,970 --> 00:54:53,160
unacceptable and should stop
immediately.

924
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:57,570
So he's making it sound like you
know, like, like there's evil

925
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,930
evil Ukrainian army is killing
people which I just didn't see

926
00:55:00,930 --> 00:55:01,140
it.

927
00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:05,820
And any further escalation
should be avoided. Those who are

928
00:55:05,820 --> 00:55:08,880
responsible for human rights
violations should be brought to

929
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,660
justice. Oh, I'm

930
00:55:09,660 --> 00:55:12,870
sorry, human rights violations
that's there, there we are,

931
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:14,550
should be brought to justice.

932
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:18,600
We call on all sides to engage
in an inclusive and meaningful

933
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,420
dialogue to de escalate the
situation and to find a

934
00:55:21,420 --> 00:55:24,780
political solution. We have, as
you know, in the visits been

935
00:55:24,810 --> 00:55:29,370
that I've made, talked about the
importance of this dialogue. But

936
00:55:29,370 --> 00:55:33,030
the primary sponsibility to get
this moving lies with the

937
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:37,650
President. We know the elements
for a lasting solution,

938
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,220
formation of a new and inclusive
government constitutional

939
00:55:41,220 --> 00:55:45,000
reform, and the creation of
conditions for democratic

940
00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:50,250
elections and we remain ready to
support Ukraine in this process

941
00:55:50,250 --> 00:55:55,140
of political dialogue, offer
political association, and

942
00:55:55,140 --> 00:55:59,190
economic integration remains on
the table economic integration,

943
00:55:59,670 --> 00:56:02,250
as well as our commitment to
enhance People to People

944
00:56:02,250 --> 00:56:03,660
contacts, people to

945
00:56:03,660 --> 00:56:06,570
people contact, what are they
Christian mingle.com What is

946
00:56:06,570 --> 00:56:09,390
this People to People contacts
is weird.

947
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:12,390
But in the light of the
deuterium situation, we decided

948
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:15,930
as matter of urgency, we need to
look at targeted sanctions.

949
00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:20,070
We've agreed to suspend export
licences for equipment for

950
00:56:20,070 --> 00:56:22,170
internal repression.

951
00:56:22,830 --> 00:56:28,710
Equipment, she means guns.
Exactly. That's exactly that's

952
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:29,250
exactly what

953
00:56:29,610 --> 00:56:33,000
he's possibly want to rub allies
the place. No, no, no, no, no, I

954
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,600
don't. Well, he's just about the
oil. You know, the history of

955
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,650
the well, yes. The history of
the Ukraine. This used to be

956
00:56:40,650 --> 00:56:44,370
called the breadbasket of
Europe. History of Ukraine,

957
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,550
Ukraine, did I say the I'm
sorry, yes, history of Ukraine.

958
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:51,630
He used to be the breadbasket of
Europe. The the land was

959
00:56:51,630 --> 00:56:57,120
fertile, it was perfect. And the
people of Ukraine, they've been

960
00:56:57,150 --> 00:57:01,140
they've been getting short end
of the stick for a while. There

961
00:57:01,140 --> 00:57:07,200
was the starvation of Ukraine,
and in the 30s 32, I think

962
00:57:09,630 --> 00:57:11,100
you pointed out, which was,

963
00:57:11,910 --> 00:57:14,970
of course, they were invaded,
but then Stalin starved them

964
00:57:14,970 --> 00:57:15,420
out.

965
00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:21,720
Somebody pointed out that
Ukraine has been owned or

966
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,890
dominated by some other country
since the 1400s. They've never

967
00:57:25,890 --> 00:57:27,030
been truly independent.

968
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:28,950
Some other country

969
00:57:30,090 --> 00:57:31,890
boy, I mean, yeah, besides
Russia, okay.

970
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,520
I gotcha. And a country
somewhere somehow Yeah.

971
00:57:35,850 --> 00:57:41,370
Yeah. Yeah. So they're not used
to being you know, their own

972
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,150
doing their own thing without so
they would probably, you know,

973
00:57:45,150 --> 00:57:49,230
if they lost Russia as their
patron they'd probably be very

974
00:57:49,230 --> 00:57:51,420
comfortable with another Patriot
which would be the you know, the

975
00:57:51,420 --> 00:57:53,100
boneheads from the EU

976
00:57:53,220 --> 00:57:57,570
Yeah, now the only problem is is
the the economy that's the issue

977
00:57:58,740 --> 00:58:02,100
that that's the real problem is
that they have to do something

978
00:58:02,130 --> 00:58:10,920
about their their debt and the
and their money. And I don't

979
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,550
know one thing I know for sure,
none of these people talk and

980
00:58:14,550 --> 00:58:18,900
give a crap about the citizens
of Ukraine. They do not care

981
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:24,030
about that. All they care about
is the oil contracts. Chevron

982
00:58:24,030 --> 00:58:28,590
and shell have the two big ones
maybe the fertile land if they

983
00:58:28,590 --> 00:58:36,780
can refer tie lines it but if if
we see a Yulia Timoshenko coming

984
00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:39,390
back into power that will be
that's just hilarious. It will

985
00:58:39,390 --> 00:58:45,180
just be too funny. The queen,
the Princess Leia, when you see

986
00:58:45,180 --> 00:58:47,670
this, I'm talking about no but
she's had that's been her

987
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:51,960
trademark because she's insane
John, it's like shared now she's

988
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,280
like, share with with the crazy
hair or it's her trademark

989
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,430
because that's this is what
megalomaniacs and celebrate he's

990
00:58:59,430 --> 00:59:05,430
do like Yahoo serious. Or how
about that AOL digital Prophet

991
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:08,820
guy? This is what people who
have no talent do. Oh, I'm

992
00:59:08,820 --> 00:59:11,040
sorry. I was the hair guy too.
Oh, well, there you go. So we

993
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:11,580
were I was you

994
00:59:11,580 --> 00:59:14,970
know this case in point I was I
was gonna come in with a

995
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,260
case in point it's what it is.
And then you know, she comes out

996
00:59:19,260 --> 00:59:22,380
of it. So she was in jail. But
oh, wait, I need to have my hair

997
00:59:22,380 --> 00:59:25,380
braided before I go speak to the
people of the revolution.

998
00:59:25,890 --> 00:59:28,140
onstage with my microphones good
to go.

999
00:59:28,529 --> 00:59:32,069
As you're here. I think that's a
wig. No. It's a crown it's a

1000
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:35,489
literal crown. It's not even
real it's just it's not even her

1001
00:59:35,489 --> 00:59:37,169
some some slave she had.

1002
00:59:37,950 --> 00:59:41,910
It's just Arab. It just took
Charlotte they just took some

1003
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:47,880
lady and threw the crown on not
even her yeah, no man. Oh man.

1004
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:50,790
No. All right. Well, so we just
have to wait and see how it

1005
00:59:50,790 --> 00:59:53,760
plays out but I am blood on the
moon is what I'm predicting. I'm

1006
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:58,770
thinking I'm thinking that this
cannot stand so somehow the the

1007
00:59:58,770 --> 01:00:01,440
narrative has to change. Just
everyone's kind of hedging like,

1008
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,350
well, we're kind of there, but
the President really hasn't

1009
01:00:04,380 --> 01:00:07,800
said, Okay, I'm stepping down
and then you know, they talking

1010
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,650
about elections in May and you
know, then he has to get out.

1011
01:00:10,650 --> 01:00:14,190
And but this is all this is this
is everything that's happening

1012
01:00:14,190 --> 01:00:19,230
here is really against human
rights of the people of Ukraine.

1013
01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:22,860
I mean, they had democratic
elections in 2010. Everybody

1014
01:00:22,860 --> 01:00:25,140
said, we had all the monitors
there. Everyone said, Yes, it

1015
01:00:25,140 --> 01:00:28,170
was clean as a whistle. It was
great. This guy's in and now it

1016
01:00:28,170 --> 01:00:31,560
changes. Now all sudden, that
wasn't a good one.

1017
01:00:32,370 --> 01:00:37,590
No, well, no. I think it's
possible that the Ukrainian

1018
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:44,280
people as a whole are just
naturally dissatisfied. Yes,

1019
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,660
well, could be I believe that's
the reason we have glitch and

1020
01:00:48,660 --> 01:00:53,610
his brother as code champion, co
world heavyweight champions.

1021
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:55,080
They're just irked.

1022
01:00:58,020 --> 01:01:04,230
They're just so pissed they win
by kicking your ass. So now we

1023
01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:06,030
have something similar in

1024
01:01:06,779 --> 01:01:10,229
Boston, by the way, just one
last side. Again, buzzkill

1025
01:01:10,229 --> 01:01:12,839
juniors, Powell who lived in the
Ukraine for a number of years,

1026
01:01:12,839 --> 01:01:14,969
you know, that you created for
the same cause? You went there

1027
01:01:14,999 --> 01:01:20,729
and Ukraine says that the the
Litany is is that the Georgians

1028
01:01:20,729 --> 01:01:24,209
are the brains of the Eastern
European countries and the

1029
01:01:24,209 --> 01:01:25,589
Ukrainians are the muscle

1030
01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:31,680
while the Georgians are now also
in play once again, go good

1031
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,140
amongst all of this but you're
not hearing me sometimes. I

1032
01:01:34,140 --> 01:01:36,810
don't know if you can turn up
your speaker or something but

1033
01:01:36,810 --> 01:01:39,600
sometimes I'm talking you're
just talking over me like you

1034
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:40,080
don't care.

1035
01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:42,390
They still give feedback.

1036
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,930
In Bosnia Herzegovina they are
now talking about the what they

1037
01:01:48,930 --> 01:01:49,650
call like the

1038
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,990
getting a lot of lost packets,
by the way is one of the reasons

1039
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,350
Oh really, oh, oh, this may be
too loud.

1040
01:01:55,620 --> 01:01:58,530
I want to know it sounds good.
I'm not hearing anything that

1041
01:01:58,530 --> 01:02:03,000
then they're bosnia-herzegovina
today now talk of the new era of

1042
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:08,880
discontent. And they're getting
Yeah, well, but there's, there's

1043
01:02:08,910 --> 01:02:17,280
there's a fantastic NGO, a non
governmental organisation that

1044
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:17,550
is to

1045
01:02:17,550 --> 01:02:24,480
come up with a new meaning for
NGO. Okay, I'm just saying just

1046
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:25,620
keep it in the back your head.

1047
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:30,000
So there they have the
initiative for better and humane

1048
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:36,750
inclusion who is working on the
ground there. And this is a very

1049
01:02:36,750 --> 01:02:42,840
interesting outfit, which of
course I looked up for, for our

1050
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:47,760
pleasure. Let me see if I have
it here. These guys they

1051
01:02:47,790 --> 01:02:53,970
basically take money from UNICEF
and all these other really big

1052
01:02:54,300 --> 01:02:57,690
United Nations type
organisations and they funnel it

1053
01:02:57,690 --> 01:03:01,050
through to all these other
little things or these little

1054
01:03:01,050 --> 01:03:04,050
projects that they have. And if
you just look at it and they're

1055
01:03:04,050 --> 01:03:11,610
to IB hi.ba Ba man is it's just
all this money comes in from

1056
01:03:11,790 --> 01:03:15,570
mainly UNICEF which is un money
which I guess

1057
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,490
we give me those letters again

1058
01:03:19,590 --> 01:03:27,630
India Bravo hotel India dot
Bravo Alpha be a Bosnia

1059
01:03:27,630 --> 01:03:33,300
something rather here social
reform in the NGO sector it's

1060
01:03:33,330 --> 01:03:38,280
it's this is really a very it's
fascinating just to see how all

1061
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,400
of this money flows and I was
kind of thinking about all these

1062
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:48,060
the NGOs it's it's so out of
control in America if we stopped

1063
01:03:48,060 --> 01:03:52,080
the tax exempt pneus of
nonprofits and if you donate to

1064
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,680
a nonprofit if you shouldn't if
you don't deduct it, we could

1065
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,950
solve the deficit forever for
just for once and for all

1066
01:03:59,010 --> 01:04:02,430
there's so much money not being
collected in taxes for this

1067
01:04:02,430 --> 01:04:09,360
bullcrap. Yeah, everywhere.
Yeah, everywhere. It really

1068
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:10,260
needs to stop.

1069
01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:14,970
This is worse than churches. And
I'm not condemning being tax

1070
01:04:14,970 --> 01:04:17,850
exempt but in terms of like the
amount of money that saved

1071
01:04:17,850 --> 01:04:21,720
because the church just don't
pay property tax or any sort of

1072
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,660
tax this is way beyond what your
people bitch about the churches

1073
01:04:24,660 --> 01:04:26,070
they don't nobody bitches about
this.

1074
01:04:26,670 --> 01:04:29,340
So here's here's a report that
came out you might have heard

1075
01:04:29,340 --> 01:04:31,800
about this and I actually I got
the report because I wanted to

1076
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,100
see what they're saying is is
Human Rights Watch the Human

1077
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:38,790
Rights Watch now we all know is
no agenda producers that this is

1078
01:04:38,910 --> 01:04:42,120
funded by mainly the State
Department and the what's the

1079
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:48,960
democracy, the democracy group.
And it's about the actually the

1080
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,070
title report is a wedding that
became a funeral US drone attack

1081
01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:57,930
on marriage procession in Yemen.
Yeah, this story now I'm I'm I

1082
01:04:57,930 --> 01:05:00,360
got a real problem with the
drones. I don't like don't like

1083
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,900
the whole idea. And you'd expect
Human Rights Watch should be the

1084
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:06,360
guys who are all over this. And
I'm going to make some changes.

1085
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,580
So here's the report that you
probably heard about an

1086
01:05:08,580 --> 01:05:12,000
investigation into a US drone
strike in Yemen. Human Rights

1087
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,000
Watch is reporting a December
strike may have killed up to a

1088
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,540
dozen people on their way to a
wedding in Yemen, among them,

1089
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,990
the bride that's based on
interviews with witnesses,

1090
01:05:22,140 --> 01:05:25,440
Yemeni officials and relatives
of the dead. US officials say

1091
01:05:25,470 --> 01:05:29,340
only members of al Qaeda were
killed in the December strike

1092
01:05:29,340 --> 01:05:32,820
and are refusing to make the
results of two investigations

1093
01:05:32,850 --> 01:05:35,790
public. All right. So first of
all, Don Lemon, I don't know

1094
01:05:35,790 --> 01:05:39,780
where he got his information.
But in the summary page, two of

1095
01:05:39,780 --> 01:05:43,860
this report, it says everyone in
the procession was a civilian,

1096
01:05:43,860 --> 01:05:47,130
including all of the dead and
injured and the bride received a

1097
01:05:47,130 --> 01:05:51,060
superficial face wound that the
bride did not die, Don Lemon,

1098
01:05:51,060 --> 01:05:53,250
not according to the reports,
I'm like, maybe he's reading

1099
01:05:53,250 --> 01:05:54,450
from a different report?

1100
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,570
I'm sure he is. No, I'm sure
he's not reading from the

1101
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,760
prompt. especially made for CNN.
Yeah,

1102
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:04,500
especially CNN report. So I want
to give you a couple of the it

1103
01:06:04,530 --> 01:06:07,680
within just reading, I didn't
have to read the report, which

1104
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:13,290
is only 36 pages, which is it's
not a lot because these NGOs

1105
01:06:13,290 --> 01:06:15,960
what they do is create big
reports with lots of

1106
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,380
information. That's what they're
supposed to do. But I didn't

1107
01:06:19,380 --> 01:06:22,080
have to go past the summary and
recommendations to understand

1108
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,380
what they're doing here. So
human rights rights watch found

1109
01:06:25,380 --> 01:06:28,140
that the convoy was indeed a
wedding procession that was

1110
01:06:28,140 --> 01:06:30,480
bringing the bride and family
members to the groom's hometown.

1111
01:06:31,170 --> 01:06:34,260
The procession may also have
included members of AQAP,

1112
01:06:34,290 --> 01:06:38,250
although it's not clear who they
were or what was their fate. So

1113
01:06:38,250 --> 01:06:40,710
this already is sounding a
little more dodgy like, well,

1114
01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:43,530
let's see, maybe there were some
guys there. This raises the

1115
01:06:43,530 --> 01:06:49,050
possibility the attack may have
violated the laws of war. I want

1116
01:06:49,050 --> 01:06:52,500
to read that, again, this is
Human Rights Watch. But they now

1117
01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:55,980
talk about the laws of war by
failing to discriminate between

1118
01:06:55,980 --> 01:06:59,940
combatants and civilians, or by
causing civilian loss

1119
01:06:59,940 --> 01:07:06,150
disproportionate to the expected
military advantage. Now, I would

1120
01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:11,040
think in basic human rights
watch, I don't want anyone to

1121
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:15,000
die. I don't want anyone to be
killed. But now this all of a

1122
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,560
sudden, there's a there's a
number, there's five zones, yes.

1123
01:07:19,590 --> 01:07:25,530
So you cannot cause civilian
loss, disproportionate to the

1124
01:07:25,530 --> 01:07:27,630
expected military advantage.

1125
01:07:28,110 --> 01:07:33,300
Okay, so what you're looking at
obviously, is a way forward

1126
01:07:33,330 --> 01:07:38,250
designed to make it look as if
somebody cares, and that if

1127
01:07:38,430 --> 01:07:41,700
drones get out of control and
killing people indiscriminately,

1128
01:07:41,790 --> 01:07:42,450
we're on it.

1129
01:07:42,630 --> 01:07:47,640
Ah, well, it's even worse than
that. So now, in this summary,

1130
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:52,620
the legality of the December 12
Attack hinges on both the

1131
01:07:52,650 --> 01:07:56,010
applicable body of international
law and the facts on the ground.

1132
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,240
So now I'm already understanding
this document is supposed to get

1133
01:08:00,270 --> 01:08:07,140
us prepared to have legalised
drone strikes that are all good

1134
01:08:07,140 --> 01:08:12,720
according to international law.
And it says here, the burden is

1135
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,350
on the attacker to take all
feasible precautions to ensure

1136
01:08:16,350 --> 01:08:19,920
that a target is a combatant
before conducting an attack and

1137
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:25,650
to minimise civilian harm. This
is a cover your ass document and

1138
01:08:25,650 --> 01:08:28,680
we see that in the
recommendations. Again, this is

1139
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,160
Human Rights Watch, who under
the guise of your killing,

1140
01:08:32,190 --> 01:08:35,460
wedding parties are now going to
recommend the following. Here's

1141
01:08:35,460 --> 01:08:38,400
what I would recommend if I were
if I were a human rights

1142
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,240
advocate. I would say he would
my recommendation would be don't

1143
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:48,810
kill people. It's not nice.
Instead, the Human Rights Watch

1144
01:08:48,810 --> 01:08:53,340
says to the governments of the
United States and Yemen ensure

1145
01:08:53,340 --> 01:08:56,550
that the United States is taking
all feasible precautions to

1146
01:08:56,550 --> 01:09:01,920
minimise harm to civilians in
targeted killings. use lethal

1147
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,600
force. I know.

1148
01:09:03,930 --> 01:09:07,260
Yeah, man. It's a comedy. This
is anyone with a sense of humour

1149
01:09:07,260 --> 01:09:09,210
sees with what's going on. This
is their

1150
01:09:09,210 --> 01:09:13,830
number one recommendation. Yeah.
Be careful when killing people

1151
01:09:13,860 --> 01:09:19,680
in a targeted manner. Usually.
It's I know it's laughable.

1152
01:09:19,980 --> 01:09:20,610
Usually

1153
01:09:20,609 --> 01:09:23,549
this should be read by some
comedian Gilbert Godfrey

1154
01:09:23,759 --> 01:09:24,929
agreeing to

1155
01:09:25,649 --> 01:09:30,329
use lethal force only when
absolutely necessary to protect

1156
01:09:30,329 --> 01:09:35,009
human life and I'm gonna say so
you can only kill someone when

1157
01:09:35,009 --> 01:09:39,629
you're going to save someone
else. It's like human lives

1158
01:09:39,629 --> 01:09:43,289
saved or created. And it should
all be in accordance with

1159
01:09:43,289 --> 01:09:47,939
international human rights law.
Now somewhere in international

1160
01:09:47,939 --> 01:09:51,359
human rights law it must state
that it's okay to be killed as

1161
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:54,539
long as you know you're you're a
bad guy I guess.

1162
01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:57,720
Yeah. Recognise can be killed
the recommendation

1163
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,100
number two. Again, my

1164
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:01,920
recommend I'm sorry, I just say
who determines who's the bad

1165
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,210
guys another sorry but go on.

1166
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:07,260
Recommendation two from Human
Rights Watch a human rights

1167
01:10:07,260 --> 01:10:10,590
organisation. Again, my second
recommendation would probably be

1168
01:10:11,340 --> 01:10:15,300
let's try to be friends. Let's
try this. Let's not send

1169
01:10:15,510 --> 01:10:19,020
pilotless aeroplanes to shoot
Hellfire missiles upon people

1170
01:10:19,020 --> 01:10:25,440
who may be getting married No no
no recommendation to implement a

1171
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:30,210
system of prompt and meaningful
compensation for civilian loss

1172
01:10:30,210 --> 01:10:34,230
of life injury and property
damage from unlawful attacks.

1173
01:10:34,710 --> 01:10:38,940
Wasn't Ford Motor Company
condemned profoundly because

1174
01:10:38,940 --> 01:10:42,600
they put $1 amount figure on the
Pintos when they were being

1175
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:45,690
blowed up when someone rear
ended was very good. Yeah,

1176
01:10:45,690 --> 01:10:48,690
that's right. They were
condemned for oh, you can't put

1177
01:10:48,690 --> 01:10:52,530
money on the value of a human
life and it was the same people.

1178
01:10:53,460 --> 01:10:55,680
Interestingly enough, of course,
this has been going on for a

1179
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,050
while as it states in this
recommendation, the United

1180
01:10:58,050 --> 01:11:01,560
States also should institute a
system of condolence or ex

1181
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:06,030
gratiae gratia payments, as it
has done in Iraq, Iraq and

1182
01:11:06,030 --> 01:11:12,270
Afghanistan. A system of
condolence Ah, here we go. Hey,

1183
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:18,060
we're really sorry. I'm telling
you,

1184
01:11:18,090 --> 01:11:23,010
this would be a recording. We're
really sorry for killing your

1185
01:11:23,010 --> 01:11:27,060
died. This is a recording. We're
really sorry for killing your

1186
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:29,070
bride. This is a recording.

1187
01:11:29,460 --> 01:11:32,310
Exactly. Or just be a robocall?

1188
01:11:40,020 --> 01:11:46,080
Hello, if your name is Ahmed,
hello, this is the US government

1189
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:51,240
calling if your name is
Abdullah, please say please

1190
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:57,510
press one. We're sorry to have
killed your bride. This is a

1191
01:11:57,510 --> 01:12:02,670
recording. So I just snapped it
all over myself. I'm sorry. I

1192
01:12:02,670 --> 01:12:07,650
was holding my nose and I was
not smart. Oh, sorry. Anyway,

1193
01:12:07,830 --> 01:12:10,710
then to finalise the second
recommendation is only to the US

1194
01:12:10,710 --> 01:12:13,170
government. And so the first one
was to the governments of the

1195
01:12:13,170 --> 01:12:15,690
United States and Yemen. Now
this is to the US government

1196
01:12:16,650 --> 01:12:19,890
explain the full legal basis on
which the United States carries

1197
01:12:19,890 --> 01:12:23,220
out targeted killings, including
the attack on December 12. And

1198
01:12:23,220 --> 01:12:26,730
publicly clarify all policy
guidelines for targeted killing.

1199
01:12:26,730 --> 01:12:31,410
So this is part of the setup
that we already identified,

1200
01:12:31,650 --> 01:12:35,430
which comes right into us being
able to kill an American

1201
01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:40,920
citizen. This is still in play.
Oh, yeah. And here and here it

1202
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:46,500
is. Let me let me just prove it.
Hold on. I got it here. Crap.

1203
01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:51,420
Well, here it is. Hold on, hold
on. This is so this this report.

1204
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,450
There's no coincidence about
this report. The timing of it.

1205
01:12:54,450 --> 01:12:56,790
These things, you know, they
don't just appear magically,

1206
01:12:56,790 --> 01:13:00,150
like someone sat down and wrote
36 pages No, with this

1207
01:13:00,150 --> 01:13:03,510
particular recommendation? No.
It comes amidst the all the

1208
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:05,730
bombs, the toothpaste and the
shoe bombs

1209
01:13:05,970 --> 01:13:10,170
in Yemen, have al Qaeda in
Yemen, a master bombmaker

1210
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,770
Ibrahim Al Asiri in their ranks,
who is still at large now this

1211
01:13:13,770 --> 01:13:17,130
is a guy who's responsible for
several of the attempts on us

1212
01:13:17,130 --> 01:13:22,920
aviation in the last few years.
He's ingenious at making bombs.

1213
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,790
He's constantly trying to come
up with new ways to get past

1214
01:13:26,970 --> 01:13:28,830
airport security.

1215
01:13:28,890 --> 01:13:31,980
While some of the administration
described the threat as

1216
01:13:32,010 --> 01:13:34,890
aspirational desire to attack is

1217
01:13:34,890 --> 01:13:36,390
that Sylvester the cat

1218
01:13:36,420 --> 01:13:40,890
that's Barbara Starr, from she's
CNNs. Pentagon correspondent,

1219
01:13:40,980 --> 01:13:45,330
this US official tells CNN that
TSA would not have taken the

1220
01:13:45,330 --> 01:13:49,110
steps to warn the airlines
unless the threat was real,

1221
01:13:49,140 --> 01:13:53,340
that this is where she she just
messed up. Because TSA has

1222
01:13:53,340 --> 01:13:57,150
nothing to do with this. That's
internal. This was department

1223
01:13:57,150 --> 01:13:59,250
supposedly Department of
Homeland Security, who was

1224
01:13:59,250 --> 01:14:03,690
telling security at other
airports, international

1225
01:14:03,690 --> 01:14:07,350
airports, they had to be
careful. This is not TSA. So now

1226
01:14:07,380 --> 01:14:09,750
already the story is coming
apart. But it's going to come

1227
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:11,040
into view very quickly.

1228
01:14:11,070 --> 01:14:15,300
The official telling CNN, this
threat may represent a renewed

1229
01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:18,870
effort by al Qaeda. This is not
just some flip comment on the

1230
01:14:18,870 --> 01:14:22,890
part of a bad guy. One big worry
al Qaeda may have developed.

1231
01:14:23,550 --> 01:14:29,310
Again, the video you're seeing
is a shoe. It's a boot hanging

1232
01:14:29,820 --> 01:14:34,800
that explodes. I kid you not
you're seeing a shoe explode on

1233
01:14:34,830 --> 01:14:36,300
screen. While she's doing this
report a

1234
01:14:36,540 --> 01:14:40,560
new type of hard to detect bomb
that can be hidden in shoes.

1235
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,190
screening technology couldn't
detect the explosives and the

1236
01:14:44,190 --> 01:14:49,260
bomb might have little or no
metal contact. US officials also

1237
01:14:49,260 --> 01:14:52,620
confirmed there are a small
number of American citizens in

1238
01:14:52,620 --> 01:14:56,490
Yemen, with al Qaeda with
American passports. They could

1239
01:14:56,490 --> 01:14:58,440
readily reenter the US

1240
01:14:59,700 --> 01:15:04,110
ah I'm coming in from Yemen. I'm
getting on the plane in Yemen.

1241
01:15:04,830 --> 01:15:07,080
I'm trustworthy with my American
passport.

1242
01:15:07,140 --> 01:15:10,680
Now, fundamentally US officials
are holding their cards very

1243
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,400
close to their vest. Yes, about
what is really going on here

1244
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,820
offering very little detail. But
it does come as there's growing

1245
01:15:17,820 --> 01:15:21,150
concern about Americans overseas
fighting without fighting in

1246
01:15:21,150 --> 01:15:24,990
places like Yemen, Somalia,
Pakistan and Syria.

1247
01:15:25,020 --> 01:15:30,360
So here, here are the pieces we
have the repeated threats of new

1248
01:15:30,540 --> 01:15:34,680
bombs from the master bomb
maker. It could include

1249
01:15:34,710 --> 01:15:40,200
Americans with American
passports who have these the

1250
01:15:40,230 --> 01:15:43,530
we'll be taking these into the
United States and blowing up

1251
01:15:43,530 --> 01:15:48,030
aeroplanes and of course Human
Rights Watch says it's okay to

1252
01:15:48,030 --> 01:15:49,950
drone people if they are

1253
01:15:49,950 --> 01:15:52,920
bad. Yeah, yeah, no idea.

1254
01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:55,950
So it's set up it's it's good to
go so we just need to wait for

1255
01:15:55,950 --> 01:15:57,630
this someone to go to die.

1256
01:15:58,410 --> 01:16:02,730
Well, it'll happen shortly.
Somebody's gonna get killed

1257
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,460
Human Rights Watch. Mine. Yeah,
you

1258
01:16:05,460 --> 01:16:07,320
have a real hard on for them.
Oh, I

1259
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,750
got a hard on for another. But
first, I want to thank you for

1260
01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:12,480
your courage. And I want to say
in the morning to you, John C.

1261
01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:13,260
Dvorak.

1262
01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:16,440
Well, I want to thank you for
your courage. I want to say in

1263
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:19,500
the morning to you also in the
morning all the ships at sea and

1264
01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:21,210
the boots on the ground, the
feet in the air, the subs in the

1265
01:16:21,210 --> 01:16:23,820
water all the games a night out
nights out there and, and the

1266
01:16:23,820 --> 01:16:27,240
very few I might add very few
producers and executive

1267
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,640
producers for this show. 594

1268
01:16:29,670 --> 01:16:32,580
Yes. And in the morning to all
Yes, in the morning to all of

1269
01:16:32,580 --> 01:16:36,810
our human resources in the chat
room. highly appreciated that

1270
01:16:36,810 --> 01:16:42,870
you are here as long along with
our artists. We thank ROTC we

1271
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:46,170
thank Joshua Pettigrew.

1272
01:16:46,590 --> 01:16:49,830
Yes. Did a very nice piece. And
meanwhile, by the way, I might

1273
01:16:49,860 --> 01:16:54,630
mention that we're noticing that
at least I'm noticing that Nick

1274
01:16:54,630 --> 01:17:00,300
the rat, is electioneering. Now
on Twitter, and elsewhere to get

1275
01:17:00,300 --> 01:17:03,360
us to pick his art more. I want
to I did a

1276
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:07,620
how's that working out for him?
I like

1277
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:14,010
to get a review of last year's
art. All last year's art and

1278
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:18,090
Martin JJ was the number one
provider of art for the show.

1279
01:17:18,090 --> 01:17:22,440
And Nick the rat was number two.
There was really nobody close to

1280
01:17:22,440 --> 01:17:25,020
those two. There was a few
others that came in a lot but

1281
01:17:25,020 --> 01:17:29,880
not like those guys. So I don't
know what Nick the rats, the

1282
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,540
nichter I had a nice piece that
had lots of double entendres and

1283
01:17:33,570 --> 01:17:36,300
meanings to it. It was a good
piece, and we were close to

1284
01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:39,540
choosing it but we chose this
one because we just liked the

1285
01:17:39,570 --> 01:17:43,620
the whimsical aspect to it was
quite a pretty piece of art.

1286
01:17:44,430 --> 01:17:46,620
They want to thank some
executive producers and

1287
01:17:46,620 --> 01:17:49,620
Associate Executive producers,
namely one executive producer,

1288
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,190
our friend Sir David Foley over
there in Los Gatos who came with

1289
01:17:53,190 --> 01:17:57,660
594 33. This is a Baron of
Silicon Valley. No, he's

1290
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,570
he's Archduke,

1291
01:18:01,410 --> 01:18:05,010
Archduke IgM. John and Adam,
please find my donation for club

1292
01:18:05,010 --> 01:18:09,660
594 Plus my 33 cents Illuminati
tax. Looking forward to some

1293
01:18:09,660 --> 01:18:14,700
analysis on the BTC crash of
Mount Gox. You know, funny thing

1294
01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:18,360
about that mount Gox it was
actually crashing while Horowitz

1295
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,660
and I were doing DH unplugged
and we're looking at at the

1296
01:18:21,660 --> 01:18:25,530
arbitrage opportunities for the
Bitcoin. Yeah. And we couldn't

1297
01:18:25,530 --> 01:18:28,410
figure out why. Why would you
why as we watched it went from

1298
01:18:28,410 --> 01:18:36,300
$400 to $260 during it one hour
that we did our show. And I

1299
01:18:36,330 --> 01:18:39,330
really not. I don't know if I
have any analysis on it yet.

1300
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:44,580
Well, hold on a second. It's 622
Now, so where did it go down to

1301
01:18:44,580 --> 01:18:45,330
200?

1302
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,570
Was that last June? That's
Tuesday. Oh really? I 200

1303
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,200
I don't pay attention to it
anymore. This is a scam. It's

1304
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,630
obvious Hello. This is a
complete scam. But I'm waiting

1305
01:18:55,410 --> 01:18:58,410
up to 10,000 I'm holding every
on hold on to my Bitcoins.

1306
01:18:58,440 --> 01:19:02,010
I would hold on to mine if I
were you. Uh, Sir Mark Wilson

1307
01:19:02,010 --> 01:19:07,020
$200 in Glasgow, UK. Hello,
gents. A couple of months ago I

1308
01:19:07,020 --> 01:19:09,810
asked for karma and it worked.
And now I'm a step closer to

1309
01:19:09,810 --> 01:19:12,600
being a fully qualified member
of the evil empires department

1310
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:16,290
of bean counters and financial
bullshitters aka chartered

1311
01:19:16,290 --> 01:19:21,480
accountant. Anyway, in
recognition of passing I got a

1312
01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:24,690
bonus from work. So here it is.
Here's the show's cut some more

1313
01:19:24,690 --> 01:19:28,080
karma would be great. Best
wishes Sir Mark Wilson, Glasgow,

1314
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:29,460
Scotland. Congratulations for

1315
01:19:29,460 --> 01:19:32,190
Mark and thank you very much. We
highly appreciate that value for

1316
01:19:32,190 --> 01:19:35,100
value. We'll take anything we
can get. This is great. You've

1317
01:19:35,100 --> 01:19:38,520
got karma who will be one of our
Associate Executive producers

1318
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,260
and one others as a shortlist
and

1319
01:19:40,260 --> 01:19:45,720
another one last one cog in the
wheel left. Peter Zhou ski in

1320
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:51,360
Kirkland, Washington. $200, A.
NAME LOCATION Kirkland note in

1321
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,850
the morning, John and Adam and
thank you for your courage. I

1322
01:19:53,850 --> 01:19:57,330
would like to thank my two
buddies Harry and Daulat for

1323
01:19:57,330 --> 01:20:00,150
their courage, they both hit me
in the mouth and they have been

1324
01:20:00,150 --> 01:20:04,170
managed to guilt one of them
into donating. I believe doll it

1325
01:20:04,170 --> 01:20:09,510
still deserves a gentle douche
bag call out. Bag prayerfully

1326
01:20:09,510 --> 01:20:14,130
followed by a Russian ITM Jing
if available.

1327
01:20:15,090 --> 01:20:21,030
That was and the Chinese one,
just in case. Okay. Hold on, I'm

1328
01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:24,450
gonna throw my lowcarb you've
got karma. Yeah, that's not so

1329
01:20:24,450 --> 01:20:27,120
great, everybody. I mean, it's
great. for.org/na

1330
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,790
people I we it was very
disappointing. But

1331
01:20:30,030 --> 01:20:33,450
well, you know why? It's very
obvious why John. Hello. I mean,

1332
01:20:33,450 --> 01:20:35,760
your your, your fault is clear.

1333
01:20:36,150 --> 01:20:39,510
I have actually switched from
kittens to puppies. Yes, you put

1334
01:20:39,510 --> 01:20:43,770
a puppy in the newsletter. My
newsletter doesn't normally have

1335
01:20:43,770 --> 01:20:47,910
dogs or cats. I think the
problem was there was a holiday

1336
01:20:47,910 --> 01:20:50,310
on Monday and every holiday week
we get some

1337
01:20:50,879 --> 01:20:53,459
crap. Well, why don't we start
taking holidays off then?

1338
01:20:54,630 --> 01:20:58,350
We didn't really work that day.
Anyway, we took it off. Okay.

1339
01:20:59,010 --> 01:21:02,880
By the way, but the um, the
amount of people who said they'd

1340
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:07,590
love a 12 hour no agenda? Yeah.
What are you? They're nuts. What

1341
01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:11,310
were you thinking? Why did you
even say this? People are all

1342
01:21:12,150 --> 01:21:14,850
hope is possible that still I
didn't say we're going to do it.

1343
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,370
It could happen. I said it would
be spur of the moment

1344
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:18,570
today could be the day.

1345
01:21:19,470 --> 01:21:20,070
No,

1346
01:21:20,190 --> 01:21:25,410
no. Not gonna happen. Now, I got
two little quick PR things to

1347
01:21:25,410 --> 01:21:32,700
mention. Okay, the I received my
my box of the new no agenda 33

1348
01:21:32,700 --> 01:21:37,170
tote bags, they are Wow, what an
improvement over the over the

1349
01:21:37,170 --> 01:21:40,320
beta version that we tested a
while back. Nice. These are

1350
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,080
nice. And Eric is got them up
for sale. They're on his

1351
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:47,340
website, no agenda, nation.com
and the store. So I wanted to

1352
01:21:47,340 --> 01:21:49,920
give a plug for that they are
really nice. They go for 1111.

1353
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:54,090
And a portion of that benefits
the show. And then I wanted to

1354
01:21:54,090 --> 01:21:59,100
thank Producer Ron Boyd, who has
completed the no agenda album

1355
01:21:59,100 --> 01:22:04,890
art book, it's available for
your iOS iBook. But he's also

1356
01:22:04,890 --> 01:22:07,560
made a PDF available of it. It's
really beautiful. He's

1357
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:13,410
categorise them by theme. So in
the PDF version, I've seen this,

1358
01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:16,470
you know, like all the Hillary
Clinton ones or the Barack Obama

1359
01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:20,340
ones, it's really well done. And
when you take a look at the art

1360
01:22:20,340 --> 01:22:23,040
that has been created over the
years by our artists, I mean it

1361
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:27,000
is just it is phenomenally
beautiful. So this is all data,

1362
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,420
I believe it's all free you can
and he spent a long time working

1363
01:22:30,420 --> 01:22:34,530
on it. And We highly appreciate
his work. I don't know. I think

1364
01:22:34,530 --> 01:22:37,710
it's free. Let me see the Apple
iTunes where he's got the no

1365
01:22:37,710 --> 01:22:46,200
agenda album word book. Yep,
free. That's cool. Exactly.

1366
01:22:47,070 --> 01:22:49,320
Alright, so we appreciate that.
Thank you very much to our

1367
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:50,550
executive producer and a

1368
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:54,060
lot of value for value, or value
for no value or whatever you

1369
01:22:54,060 --> 01:22:59,220
want to call it. On this show, I
think this show is the best

1370
01:22:59,250 --> 01:23:01,200
podcast in the universe period.

1371
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:07,410
I agree. As do our associate as
executive producers and again,

1372
01:23:07,440 --> 01:23:11,220
our executive producer David
Foley. Thank you very much. We

1373
01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:14,880
will also have a few more thank
yous but again, it's a very

1374
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:19,530
short list so this is that's
what it is. As you say it

1375
01:23:19,530 --> 01:23:22,050
holiday I think it's the puppies
aren't I think I think the value

1376
01:23:22,050 --> 01:23:24,210
is definitely there. So that
can't be the problem. Please go

1377
01:23:24,210 --> 01:23:25,800
to I'm sorry.

1378
01:23:26,250 --> 01:23:30,510
I was gonna say the puppy is now
on the puppies per se are now on

1379
01:23:30,510 --> 01:23:34,830
probation. For a.org/and

1380
01:23:35,460 --> 01:23:37,890
Everybody probation or not, you
need to get your ass out on the

1381
01:23:37,890 --> 01:23:39,480
street and propagate our
formula.

1382
01:23:39,570 --> 01:23:44,280
Our formula is this. We go out.
We hit people in the mouth

1383
01:23:57,060 --> 01:24:00,390
a couple of interesting stats
for you, John. Just a couple of

1384
01:24:00,390 --> 01:24:04,020
stats. Yeah, stats. We should
have a jingle interesting stats.

1385
01:24:05,250 --> 01:24:12,150
First of all another 35 A gay
protesters arrested in Boise

1386
01:24:12,150 --> 01:24:20,250
Idaho. Bringing the total now to
think 77 Funny how we didn't

1387
01:24:20,250 --> 01:24:26,910
hear about that anti gay news
anywhere? Oh, yes, stray dogs

1388
01:24:26,940 --> 01:24:32,790
seven and a half 1000 stray dogs
18,000 stray cats roaming the

1389
01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:33,990
streets of

1390
01:24:35,100 --> 01:24:37,080
Wait, let me guess Soshi

1391
01:24:40,020 --> 01:24:40,800
Detroit

1392
01:24:42,750 --> 01:24:44,130
Well, something must be done.

1393
01:24:44,460 --> 01:24:50,100
And this and this was kind of
the the the depressing thought I

1394
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:54,450
was reading up on on Detroit
about how the basically how

1395
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:59,460
banks ruined Detroit, which is a
lot of financial trickery went

1396
01:24:59,460 --> 01:25:03,840
on to Create this, this
bankruptcy. But what was

1397
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:08,160
interesting to read is that the
entire debt of Detroit that

1398
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:14,550
created the bankruptcy of a city
is still $1 billion less than

1399
01:25:14,550 --> 01:25:16,260
Facebook paid for WhatsApp.

1400
01:25:19,350 --> 01:25:21,780
Yeah, there's a funny irony to
all this.

1401
01:25:23,130 --> 01:25:28,080
Yeah, there is some ISO $18
billion debt for Detroit company

1402
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:32,580
goes bankrupt seven. Just think
of the dogs alone people. Just

1403
01:25:32,580 --> 01:25:37,890
seven and a half 1000 stray
dogs. And half a million people

1404
01:25:37,890 --> 01:25:43,200
left the city. And yet the
WhatsApp is worth 19 billion.

1405
01:25:44,580 --> 01:25:47,220
Yeah, just these things are just
a little crazy.

1406
01:25:48,150 --> 01:25:52,140
Yeah, yeah. It's It's, uh, it
makes it funny. It makes the

1407
01:25:52,140 --> 01:25:55,890
whole thing funny It does to me.
We had a note from one of our

1408
01:25:56,010 --> 01:25:59,460
producers who said he got into
the show, and he tried to get

1409
01:25:59,460 --> 01:26:02,730
his wife to listen, by hitting
her in the mouth. And oh, boy,

1410
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:08,040
he said that. She had to
describe the show to her. He's

1411
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,970
new one of our newer guys. And
he and she says always sounds so

1412
01:26:11,970 --> 01:26:15,420
depressing. And he had to
convince her it's really a

1413
01:26:15,420 --> 01:26:15,780
comedy,

1414
01:26:16,349 --> 01:26:17,969
or comedy podcast Exactly.

1415
01:26:18,269 --> 01:26:23,489
But it says, I think on the
surface, I don't think our sales

1416
01:26:23,489 --> 01:26:27,299
pitch. Again, we shouldn't hire
the Devorah creative work

1417
01:26:27,299 --> 01:26:31,199
consulting company to get the
sales pitch evened out a little

1418
01:26:31,199 --> 01:26:34,079
more, so it doesn't have so a
description of the show isn't

1419
01:26:34,079 --> 01:26:37,679
depressing. Oh, it has to
describe what you know, we just

1420
01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:40,799
let people do it on the
Wikipedia. People. I always say

1421
01:26:40,889 --> 01:26:43,229
tell people go look to no
agenda. Go look it up on

1422
01:26:43,229 --> 01:26:46,169
Wikipedia, read it there. You
can get some idea. And you can

1423
01:26:46,169 --> 01:26:50,099
kind of get the hint that it's
what's your we were an uplifting

1424
01:26:50,099 --> 01:26:51,689
show. We're not a depressing
show.

1425
01:26:52,590 --> 01:26:55,350
What? Why don't we just say
we're a comedy show?

1426
01:26:56,850 --> 01:26:59,760
Well, because there's we don't
really do jokes. And I think we

1427
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:04,260
can go actually an entire show
without getting a laugh. Yeah,

1428
01:27:04,260 --> 01:27:06,480
what's commonly I think,
actually,

1429
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:12,780
have you watched Jimmy Fallon on
The Tonight Show? Oh, yeah. I'm

1430
01:27:12,780 --> 01:27:18,360
on fire now baby. Yeah. Okay. So
southern Southern Poverty Law

1431
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,930
Centre. I'm on an NGO tear. I'm
so angry

1432
01:27:21,930 --> 01:27:25,800
about either one you got a hard
on for? Yeah. Well, I hadn't

1433
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,970
looked at their form 990 in a
while. Okay, how much money

1434
01:27:29,970 --> 01:27:30,990
these guys have.

1435
01:27:32,670 --> 01:27:34,110
So they catch depressing.

1436
01:27:34,140 --> 01:27:38,130
Well, wait until you hear so and
of course, the Potok guys that

1437
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,640
he holds. And then in this
group, all they do is incite

1438
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,840
racism, just incite racism and
lie in the you've just lies. And

1439
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,170
it's just the horrible man. But
these stories, and

1440
01:27:49,170 --> 01:27:53,160
you do that, because this is
like you want to get more money.

1441
01:27:54,420 --> 01:27:57,000
What do you incite? What gets
you the money?

1442
01:27:57,030 --> 01:28:01,650
Yes. Well, in fact, as you'll
hear, they were actually accused

1443
01:28:01,650 --> 01:28:05,340
of that, but we have to go back
to get into the because of

1444
01:28:05,340 --> 01:28:09,390
course, these guys don't appear
upon the scene until we have

1445
01:28:09,390 --> 01:28:14,190
some racial issue. Now I didn't
see them during the killed the

1446
01:28:14,190 --> 01:28:17,580
kids with the loud music in the
car trial, which I have no idea

1447
01:28:17,580 --> 01:28:20,340
what it was about. The last time
we saw them was you know, it's

1448
01:28:20,340 --> 01:28:23,910
always typically it's about hate
groups who want to kill the

1449
01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:27,450
president, because they don't
like a black man in the White

1450
01:28:27,450 --> 01:28:33,870
House. This is a I hear this a
lot. But it started with Ted

1451
01:28:33,870 --> 01:28:38,550
Nugent, who had a little rant
which Yeah, but it's important.

1452
01:28:39,180 --> 01:28:41,820
Because there's, I want to say
something if you play if you're

1453
01:28:41,820 --> 01:28:43,290
gonna you're gonna play the new
gen clip.

1454
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:45,390
I got to play the new gen clip
and then I want that but then I

1455
01:28:45,390 --> 01:28:50,430
need to play the response to it
and expose the incorrectness at

1456
01:28:50,430 --> 01:28:52,950
least. So I'll play that just so
everyone knows. Here's what he

1457
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:53,250
said.

1458
01:28:53,580 --> 01:28:56,010
Obviously failed to I'm sorry.

1459
01:28:57,480 --> 01:28:59,340
I didn't say Oh, I'm sorry. That
was new.

1460
01:29:00,030 --> 01:29:04,680
Wow, you sound like new Cat
Scratch Fever for me man coming

1461
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:05,400
overnight,

1462
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:10,170
pride in not shame enough
Americans to be ever vigilant

1463
01:29:10,170 --> 01:29:16,260
not to let a Chicago communist
raised communist educated

1464
01:29:16,500 --> 01:29:22,980
communist nurtured to subhuman
monkey. Like the acorn community

1465
01:29:23,010 --> 01:29:28,200
organiser, gangster Barack
Hussein Obama, to weasel his way

1466
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:32,460
into the top office of authority
the United States of America.

1467
01:29:32,730 --> 01:29:38,100
All right, so the key phrase
here that is going to be taken

1468
01:29:38,100 --> 01:29:44,640
out of all context ever is
subhuman mongrel mongrel by the

1469
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:50,910
way I think means dog and have
an unidentified breed. That is

1470
01:29:50,910 --> 01:29:55,350
the definition I found. Okay, so
here is broth on the CN ns i

1471
01:29:55,350 --> 01:29:57,450
This actually happened earlier
in the week but then it came

1472
01:29:57,450 --> 01:29:59,610
around to the Southern Poverty
Law Centre. So I brought this

1473
01:29:59,610 --> 01:30:03,810
back I did hadn't played this.
But here's broth lying.

1474
01:30:04,290 --> 01:30:07,830
The problem here is when you
call the President a sub human

1475
01:30:07,860 --> 01:30:14,310
mongrel, which has not only a
disparaging reference, but also

1476
01:30:14,490 --> 01:30:16,560
an historic racial references

1477
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,320
a professor, by the way, who is
now claiming this as a historic

1478
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:20,160
reference in some

1479
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:24,450
places. And then when you call a
feminine woman, women,

1480
01:30:24,690 --> 01:30:25,830
politicians,

1481
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,950
fat pigs, which I didn't hear
Nugent say eggs,

1482
01:30:29,310 --> 01:30:33,210
then Abbott has to make a
decision. And he had to say, Do

1483
01:30:33,210 --> 01:30:37,470
I keep Ted Nugent on the stage
with me or not? He has chosen to

1484
01:30:37,470 --> 01:30:38,010
do so

1485
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,380
by the way, this is we're
talking about Greg Abbott, who

1486
01:30:40,380 --> 01:30:43,410
was running for governor of the
state of Texas, primarily

1487
01:30:43,410 --> 01:30:47,370
against Wendy Davis, who has the
pink shoes and that's what

1488
01:30:47,370 --> 01:30:50,400
happened today. Now listen to
broth broth is going to take

1489
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,180
what this guy just said. And
he's going to expand on this

1490
01:30:54,180 --> 01:30:55,080
ratio calm.

1491
01:30:55,110 --> 01:30:59,340
I mean, do they know the history
of that phrase subhuman mongrel.

1492
01:30:59,370 --> 01:31:01,230
That's what the Nazis called
Jews.

1493
01:31:01,380 --> 01:31:05,460
Okay. I'm sorry, this is not
true. Brah leading up

1494
01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:09,180
and during World War Two to
justify the genocide of the

1495
01:31:09,180 --> 01:31:12,600
Jewish community. They called
the Jews owner mentors are

1496
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,630
subhuman long rows if you read
some of the literature,

1497
01:31:15,870 --> 01:31:20,280
so he's, he's he's just
embellishing winter. Manche

1498
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:26,340
indeed, is subhuman. But it
wasn't Unterman shrine hunt. It

1499
01:31:26,340 --> 01:31:31,050
was underbench. So to call
someone subhuman is one thing,

1500
01:31:31,050 --> 01:31:34,920
but to to now invoke Nazis,
Jews, because that's what Ted

1501
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:39,270
Nugent said. It doesn't even
make sense. And this has now

1502
01:31:39,270 --> 01:31:43,620
become like this huge media
frenzy. The machine is eating

1503
01:31:43,620 --> 01:31:47,760
this alive. But it is not true.
Intermarriage has nothing to do

1504
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:49,290
with mongrel whatsoever

1505
01:31:49,380 --> 01:31:52,740
that the Nazis put out. There's
a long history there of that

1506
01:31:52,740 --> 01:31:56,160
specific phrase that he used
involving the President of the

1507
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:57,090
United States. So

1508
01:31:57,090 --> 01:32:00,000
isn't there Godwin's Law isn't
there? And when you invoke Him,

1509
01:32:00,690 --> 01:32:04,530
you got to stop. I mean, you'd
have to stop that. But no, we

1510
01:32:04,530 --> 01:32:08,310
bring on and this is Erin
Burnett. And she had very

1511
01:32:08,310 --> 01:32:12,180
interesting Potok who is the
he's kind of the spokes Hall for

1512
01:32:12,180 --> 01:32:18,510
the Southern Poverty Law Centre.
With the I guess, an editor from

1513
01:32:18,510 --> 01:32:23,340
the National Review, his name is
I think he had he has like a

1514
01:32:23,340 --> 01:32:27,720
Muslim name. And it was very
interesting to hear this

1515
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:31,230
conversation a little longer
clip. But he but almost

1516
01:32:31,230 --> 01:32:34,800
immediately, you can you can
hear where the Southern Poverty

1517
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,020
Law Centre and how much money
they're making, it is just

1518
01:32:37,020 --> 01:32:40,020
disgusting. When you think when
you really hear what the guy's

1519
01:32:40,020 --> 01:32:43,200
talking about, and the racial
hatred he is inciting?

1520
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:47,250
Well, I think the best data
shows that in fact, anti black

1521
01:32:47,250 --> 01:32:50,940
racism has risen over the last
four or five

1522
01:32:50,970 --> 01:32:55,050
years, what is anti black racism
to mean that you're a racist

1523
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,170
against and people who are anti
black? I mean, this doesn't even

1524
01:32:58,170 --> 01:32:59,760
make sense what he's saying
there. So

1525
01:32:59,790 --> 01:33:03,660
there's polling that shows that
both implicit and explicit anti

1526
01:33:03,660 --> 01:33:07,500
black attitudes among American
whites have gone up quite

1527
01:33:07,500 --> 01:33:11,730
significantly between 22,008 and
2012.

1528
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:15,480
Notice these using this time as
the President's first election

1529
01:33:15,480 --> 01:33:17,190
2008 2012

1530
01:33:17,580 --> 01:33:21,000
to the point, now, more than
half of white Americans have

1531
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,400
these anti black attitudes. Wow.

1532
01:33:24,150 --> 01:33:28,740
So more than half of white
Americans hate black people.

1533
01:33:28,950 --> 01:33:33,030
That's what he just said. This
is an outrage.

1534
01:33:33,030 --> 01:33:35,610
Half of white Americans have the
real evidence. Alright,

1535
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,110
Ron, half of white Americans

1536
01:33:37,110 --> 01:33:39,450
real evidence? Yeah, no. Real
No,

1537
01:33:39,450 --> 01:33:42,450
he has no polling polling data.
Now we have the guy who's gonna

1538
01:33:42,450 --> 01:33:43,710
put him in his place
interesting.

1539
01:33:43,890 --> 01:33:44,940
Anti black attitudes.

1540
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,520
I think that's extremely
misleading. When you're looking

1541
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:49,920
at things like implicit
associations, when you're

1542
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,830
looking things like so called
microaggressions. Some people

1543
01:33:52,830 --> 01:33:56,250
have identify things that we're
characterising as anti black

1544
01:33:56,250 --> 01:33:59,340
attitudes. The trouble is that
if you use the same standards in

1545
01:33:59,340 --> 01:34:02,130
the past, you would see there's
actually been a sharp decline.

1546
01:34:02,250 --> 01:34:05,310
You'll see, for example, that
one out of 12 marriages, let me

1547
01:34:05,310 --> 01:34:06,990
just say, racial marriages.
Yeah,

1548
01:34:07,020 --> 01:34:10,650
you're talking about if you
count things as racism, then

1549
01:34:10,650 --> 01:34:13,410
that you count now and did an
apples to apples comparison and

1550
01:34:13,890 --> 01:34:16,680
you need an apples to apples
comparison. And the thing is

1551
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,810
that people are getting very
creative and what they're

1552
01:34:18,810 --> 01:34:21,630
characterising is racism, when
you look at hard statistics,

1553
01:34:21,630 --> 01:34:24,120
like interracial marriages,
interracial friendships, when

1554
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,670
you look at the level of racial
segregation, you've seen

1555
01:34:26,670 --> 01:34:30,240
enormous progress over time. And
I think that we should celebrate

1556
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:30,390
it.

1557
01:34:30,450 --> 01:34:33,240
And I believe this guy is
telling the truth, when you look

1558
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:34,200
for times,

1559
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:39,420
if you think about it, normally,
when you have a president, no

1560
01:34:39,420 --> 01:34:43,500
matter Black, White could be a
Chinese guy. The President does

1561
01:34:43,500 --> 01:34:46,530
and this is taught in all the
political science classes

1562
01:34:46,530 --> 01:34:50,280
because it's a fact. Well, it's
a truth not a fact. The

1563
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:54,420
President really sets the
standard for him. He's a

1564
01:34:54,420 --> 01:34:57,330
standard setter. It's like the
queen who appoints you know,

1565
01:34:57,330 --> 01:35:01,680
some tea company to be your tea
company. And so blacks are more

1566
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,740
accepted probably now than ever
before, because we have a black

1567
01:35:04,740 --> 01:35:08,130
president not in spite of having
a black president. And that, by

1568
01:35:08,130 --> 01:35:11,670
the way, is I believe this sort
of thing when when you had Bill

1569
01:35:11,670 --> 01:35:15,510
Clinton in office, and he was
getting sucked off by Monica

1570
01:35:15,510 --> 01:35:20,250
Lewinsky is why there is now a
teen epidemic of oral sex.

1571
01:35:21,030 --> 01:35:25,230
You're probably right. I don't
doubt that for a second. are

1572
01:35:25,230 --> 01:35:26,970
certainly more aggressive. I'm
told.

1573
01:35:27,450 --> 01:35:33,570
Yes. Yeah. This is bogus. Well,
but black president has made

1574
01:35:33,630 --> 01:35:36,030
race. I mean, yeah, there's
still the guy hates his

1575
01:35:36,030 --> 01:35:40,020
neighbour. Well, but especially
the other way around. Thank

1576
01:35:40,020 --> 01:35:42,960
crap. And all these guys, Bill
Maher's and the rest of them.

1577
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,610
Yeah. Black man. Yeah.

1578
01:35:44,940 --> 01:35:48,090
Whereas more than half of the
united states voted for the

1579
01:35:48,090 --> 01:35:51,780
black man. So you can't tell me
that? Yeah. Doesn't Want You

1580
01:35:51,900 --> 01:35:56,040
because they didn't vote for the
black man. They hate him. That's

1581
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,230
your polling data. Mark, what
what do you what's your

1582
01:35:58,230 --> 01:36:01,650
response? Mark, Mark to that?
Well, I

1583
01:36:01,650 --> 01:36:05,250
think if you're talking about a
50 year span or 100 year span,

1584
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:06,720
obviously that is correct.

1585
01:36:06,750 --> 01:36:10,560
Oh, okay. Well, thank you for
fessing up.

1586
01:36:10,830 --> 01:36:15,150
It is false, though, that it's
only some kind of weird implicit

1587
01:36:15,330 --> 01:36:18,240
test that shows the rise in the
wealth of the last five years or

1588
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:19,920
so in anti black racism.

1589
01:36:20,340 --> 01:36:24,690
What is I don't I failed to
understand the term anti black

1590
01:36:24,690 --> 01:36:25,440
racism.

1591
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,520
It's, well, often I have

1592
01:36:30,510 --> 01:36:34,470
to just be black racism, racism
against black black

1593
01:36:34,470 --> 01:36:37,740
racism, but maybe sounds as
though blacks are being racist.

1594
01:36:37,860 --> 01:36:41,820
I believe this to be a term that
they've they're promoting.

1595
01:36:41,850 --> 01:36:42,870
They're pushing it. I agree.

1596
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:47,460
That very much includes explicit
anti black racism. And we've

1597
01:36:47,460 --> 01:36:51,990
also seen an enormous growth
over the last 15 years or so, in

1598
01:36:51,990 --> 01:36:53,250
the number of hate groups.

1599
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,890
Now we know about his we've
discussed his hate groups where

1600
01:36:55,890 --> 01:37:00,030
he'll take three guys in a
newsletter and call him a hate

1601
01:37:00,030 --> 01:37:01,710
group like the kk k,

1602
01:37:01,740 --> 01:37:06,690
primarily white supremacist
supremacist 602,002, more than

1603
01:37:06,690 --> 01:37:10,020
1000 today. So there are a
number of things out there that

1604
01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:12,990
suggest this going on. And
frankly, I think a piece of it

1605
01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:17,100
is one second, I want to throw
something in there just as a

1606
01:37:17,130 --> 01:37:21,690
subtle point. This numbers
increase has a lot to do with

1607
01:37:21,750 --> 01:37:24,900
with something in the same time
period called the internet.

1608
01:37:24,930 --> 01:37:29,520
Yeah. After all, we know there
could have been 330 1000 of them

1609
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,910
before pre internet, but we
never heard of the exact little

1610
01:37:32,910 --> 01:37:36,570
guys in the corner church, some
sort of crackpot guy, we don't

1611
01:37:36,570 --> 01:37:39,030
know. But now that there's an
internet you get, you get real

1612
01:37:39,030 --> 01:37:40,470
numbers because people can do it
cheaply.

1613
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,650
Everyone can put up a website,
you get something going exactly

1614
01:37:43,650 --> 01:37:47,520
what's going on. And frankly, I
think a piece of it is the

1615
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:52,350
permission giving that people
like Ted Nugent in effect get

1616
01:37:52,350 --> 01:37:56,190
when Ted Nugent describes the
black president as a subhuman

1617
01:37:56,190 --> 01:38:00,810
mongrel. He is using language
that comes right out of the Nazi

1618
01:38:00,810 --> 01:38:03,600
party. No,

1619
01:38:03,870 --> 01:38:09,150
it is not, that is an outrage.
That is an outrage. But this is

1620
01:38:09,150 --> 01:38:10,500
not true. What he's saying

1621
01:38:10,530 --> 01:38:13,530
I think they actually dropped
the ball on this idea he got I

1622
01:38:13,530 --> 01:38:18,240
don't know where they came up
with going with this anti

1623
01:38:18,510 --> 01:38:22,440
semitic approach, I believe, I
don't know this to be true.

1624
01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:26,940
Personally, but I believe if you
did your research did some

1625
01:38:26,940 --> 01:38:33,690
research you would find in in
anti abolitionist literature,

1626
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:37,440
you might find something similar
to this and you could use that

1627
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:39,990
and then you could apply any
race card that you're trying to

1628
01:38:39,990 --> 01:38:40,230
you could

1629
01:38:40,230 --> 01:38:43,200
do doing you could do a slave
thing but instead of doing a

1630
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:46,740
slave thing to do in a much more
effective I mean, seriously, can

1631
01:38:46,740 --> 01:38:49,560
you just separate the Jew thing
from the slave thing? I mean,

1632
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:52,650
get your messaging right. We
need to consult these guys right

1633
01:38:52,650 --> 01:38:53,670
out of the clam.

1634
01:38:53,970 --> 01:38:58,020
So I think it's right out of the
clan has an effect and when the

1635
01:38:58,020 --> 01:38:58,500
clan

1636
01:38:58,500 --> 01:39:01,800
never said the words it's in the
clan. This is not in the clans

1637
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:05,400
documents nature politician in
Texas clan, who was Democrats,

1638
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:06,000
by the way

1639
01:39:06,030 --> 01:39:09,780
refuses to condemn this in any
way. You know, I think it in

1640
01:39:09,780 --> 01:39:13,170
affects how certain people out
there it's alright to have these

1641
01:39:13,170 --> 01:39:13,800
cones. That's

1642
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:17,430
right. That's right, Texas.
We're a bunch of anti black

1643
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:19,320
racists. We hate him.

1644
01:39:19,349 --> 01:39:21,569
That's true. Right on that it
tells certain people

1645
01:39:21,690 --> 01:39:24,690
now listen to this guy. Now. Now
comes the eye open. Are you

1646
01:39:24,690 --> 01:39:27,450
ready for the number? Stand back

1647
01:39:27,480 --> 01:39:29,850
that it's okay. I mean, people
who already think this people

1648
01:39:29,850 --> 01:39:33,030
who think you know, No normal
person would but certain people

1649
01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:35,460
will quite the opposite. I think
what we see is a world in which

1650
01:39:35,460 --> 01:39:38,460
anti racists have a lot of
voice. They have a lot of

1651
01:39:38,460 --> 01:39:41,100
influence. So whenever someone
says something like that that's

1652
01:39:41,100 --> 01:39:44,100
so appalling. What happens is
that they get an enormous amount

1653
01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:47,430
of pushback. And I think that
that's a very good thing. But

1654
01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:49,710
another thing is that we have
organisations like the Southern

1655
01:39:49,710 --> 01:39:52,950
Poverty Law Centre, that really
have grown enormously in recent

1656
01:39:52,950 --> 01:39:57,420
years. For example, in 1995, the
SPLC had net assets of about 52

1657
01:39:57,420 --> 01:40:00,690
million in 2011. They had net
assets over to one 100 and 50

1658
01:40:00,690 --> 01:40:03,060
million. And this is not a
period of time during which

1659
01:40:03,060 --> 01:40:06,450
racism increased by a factor of
five. Rather, they've been able

1660
01:40:06,450 --> 01:40:09,930
to grow by drawing on incidents
of this kind, and then weaving

1661
01:40:09,930 --> 01:40:14,790
them into a story about racism
growing racism is real. It needs

1662
01:40:14,790 --> 01:40:18,240
to be combated. But we also need
to be wary of people who profit

1663
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,120
from the perception that yes,
ism is something that it's not,

1664
01:40:21,180 --> 01:40:23,040
which is to say a growing
phenomenon.

1665
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:27,540
I was I'm first of all, yeah,
I've write a won't have that guy

1666
01:40:27,540 --> 01:40:31,140
back. Oh, no, he's done. Yes,
that guy. He's from the National

1667
01:40:31,140 --> 01:40:35,820
Review. I think salon National
Review writer. Good. Yeah. So

1668
01:40:35,850 --> 01:40:38,640
indeed, I'm looking at the 990
for the Southern Poverty Law

1669
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,730
Centre, their income for this
year total revenue. $40 million

1670
01:40:42,150 --> 01:40:46,140
donors unknown, of course,
because of the the nature of the

1671
01:40:46,140 --> 01:40:48,690
nonprofit, you don't have to
tell where the money came from.

1672
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:52,890
That's always nice. Their total
net value net assets

1673
01:40:52,920 --> 01:41:01,410
$256,554,758. That's a quarter
of a billion dollars for these

1674
01:41:01,410 --> 01:41:06,870
budget, these frickin jabroni
salaries alone. $19 million.

1675
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,820
This isn't that use this. That
guy was that was on the show.

1676
01:41:11,820 --> 01:41:14,100
There's probably bringing down a
million a year. Well,

1677
01:41:14,820 --> 01:41:18,300
no. Well, not directly. So
Richard Cohen, who's the

1678
01:41:18,300 --> 01:41:22,380
president CEO, him at the
southern of the Southern Poverty

1679
01:41:22,380 --> 01:41:25,410
Law Centre, $300,000 salary?

1680
01:41:26,910 --> 01:41:27,750
expense account? I

1681
01:41:27,750 --> 01:41:31,590
bet Oh, yeah. No expense. Well,
they have. Well, so here's the

1682
01:41:31,590 --> 01:41:38,640
chief trial counsel, Morris
Dees. He's a 306,000. They have,

1683
01:41:38,940 --> 01:41:45,720
I'll tell you this is they have
$220 million in investments and

1684
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:50,820
other securities, of which only
$8 million is publicly traded.

1685
01:41:52,350 --> 01:41:55,680
They have 15 million in taxes
and venture capital company.

1686
01:41:55,770 --> 01:41:58,830
Yeah, this is exactly what is
but we don't know because we

1687
01:41:58,830 --> 01:42:02,400
don't really know where the
money's coming from. You say

1688
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,860
we're not allowed to see that.
But and I think the the

1689
01:42:04,860 --> 01:42:09,060
nonprofit NGO regulations really
have to change, this is not

1690
01:42:09,060 --> 01:42:09,720
okay.

1691
01:42:11,730 --> 01:42:14,340
That should be what our NGO
focuses on.

1692
01:42:14,669 --> 01:42:18,989
You know what, no one will give
us money to ruin everybody else.

1693
01:42:20,999 --> 01:42:22,859
That won't work. The whole idea
is

1694
01:42:22,860 --> 01:42:25,290
this, that you're right on that,
you know what you're saying you

1695
01:42:25,290 --> 01:42:27,990
as a cynic. Yeah. But I'm not
totally convinced that you're

1696
01:42:28,050 --> 01:42:30,720
that. I think there's a lot of
people that that would

1697
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:34,500
let let's look at what they
saved, what they spent the money

1698
01:42:34,500 --> 01:42:38,970
on. And this is the real here's
the real scam, here's the real

1699
01:42:38,970 --> 01:42:42,600
where the real money goes to
they spend a lot of money on

1700
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:48,540
raising money, or they call it
canvassing or telemarketing. So

1701
01:42:48,570 --> 01:42:56,700
they spend $1.6 million on a
grassroot have sent it to

1702
01:42:56,700 --> 01:43:02,340
grassroots campaigns Inc, in
Boston, but they only brought in

1703
01:43:02,340 --> 01:43:08,190
731,000. So that was a loss of
almost $900,000 as a but then

1704
01:43:08,190 --> 01:43:09,390
the talent so they tell me,

1705
01:43:09,870 --> 01:43:12,600
wait, wait, you're telling me to
give me this numbers again. They

1706
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:15,390
sent so much money over to this
grassroots operation

1707
01:43:15,420 --> 01:43:19,230
for canvassing brought back
less? Yes. The gross receipts

1708
01:43:19,230 --> 01:43:24,780
from that activity was 731. So
they lost almost $900,000 on

1709
01:43:24,780 --> 01:43:28,620
that now you have telemarketing.
Also Boston, Massachusetts. So

1710
01:43:28,620 --> 01:43:32,760
there's a couple of them.
telephoned Inc. They spent

1711
01:43:32,790 --> 01:43:39,720
$384,000 brought in 632. So net
profit there of 248. Just by

1712
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:40,470
calling people.

1713
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:44,910
Yeah, yeah, that's you get those
calls. Yeah. Hi, I'm Rachel with

1714
01:43:44,910 --> 01:43:45,780
account services,

1715
01:43:45,810 --> 01:43:49,920
but it's roughly it's roughly
half everywhere. Every place you

1716
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:53,100
look telemarketing, they take
half of the money they bring in.

1717
01:43:54,690 --> 01:43:56,880
Oh, they gotta get paid to do
what they do. Yeah, but that's

1718
01:43:57,810 --> 01:44:00,540
easing blood from a turnip, but
that's pretty good.

1719
01:44:01,860 --> 01:44:06,870
Oh, and here's a little thing.
Periodically, the spouse of the

1720
01:44:06,870 --> 01:44:10,290
chief trial counsel accom,
accompanies him on trips when

1721
01:44:10,290 --> 01:44:14,550
her presence supports the
business purpose. This occurs

1722
01:44:14,550 --> 01:44:19,380
free infrequently and at the
minimis minimis cost to the

1723
01:44:19,380 --> 01:44:26,070
centre, minimalist now it says
minimis m i n i m. I S. O it

1724
01:44:26,070 --> 01:44:31,260
says at de minimis no de minimis
de minimis cost of the centre

1725
01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:35,310
dues for membership and a social
business luncheon club is paid

1726
01:44:35,310 --> 01:44:38,850
for by the organisation on
behalf of the CEO. They also

1727
01:44:38,850 --> 01:44:42,390
have the health club membership
for every employee. Now this is

1728
01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:47,070
good. This is good fighting
racism $300,000

1729
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:49,710
some exclusive all white clubs

1730
01:44:51,540 --> 01:44:57,450
and golf club. No Jews are white
or black. He's here. Oh, no Yes

1731
01:44:57,450 --> 01:45:01,950
or No. All right, so let's have
a Potok. respond to this, I

1732
01:45:01,950 --> 01:45:07,890
thought very eloquent, factual,
retorts, saying you are

1733
01:45:07,890 --> 01:45:13,980
profiting off of your primarily
racist inciting comments.

1734
01:45:14,070 --> 01:45:15,870
Mark, let me give you a chance
to respond to that since

1735
01:45:15,870 --> 01:45:16,800
obviously, that's

1736
01:45:16,830 --> 01:45:19,170
you since I'm a Council on
Foreign Relations and you know,

1737
01:45:19,170 --> 01:45:21,480
we're buddies and we drink all
the time. You know, we obviously

1738
01:45:21,480 --> 01:45:23,550
that that's, that's That's
messed up.

1739
01:45:23,940 --> 01:45:24,810
He's talking about?

1740
01:45:25,170 --> 01:45:28,200
Well, it's simply an ad hominem
attack on the part of

1741
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:32,640
counterpart here. You know, the
reality is, is that people out

1742
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:35,790
there are worried about what is
happening in this country. I

1743
01:45:35,790 --> 01:45:39,000
think it is undeniable that
we've seen a remarkable amount

1744
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:42,840
of polarisation over the last
five or six years. And that is

1745
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:46,590
very likely the reason that
people send us money. You know,

1746
01:45:46,590 --> 01:45:47,100
the idea that

1747
01:45:47,100 --> 01:45:52,050
you extort money that I'm not
buying this people $40 million.

1748
01:45:52,590 --> 01:45:53,730
Who's sending that

1749
01:45:53,730 --> 01:45:56,550
yeah, that the day that I'm
citing has somehow been produced

1750
01:45:56,550 --> 01:46:01,200
in order for the SPLC to get
wealthy is just you know, kind

1751
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,780
of a gutter attack. That doesn't
really mean much. Yeah, it's

1752
01:46:03,780 --> 01:46:06,330
exactly what is going on is
what's happening.

1753
01:46:06,930 --> 01:46:11,880
I want to take a go a little
just a quick aside here. I

1754
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:16,200
watched this. This clip I had
must have been seen. I don't

1755
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:18,390
know who she works for now. But
you've seen this woman Her name

1756
01:46:18,390 --> 01:46:23,730
is Dana Bash. She's proceeded to
want the big eyeballs and a

1757
01:46:23,730 --> 01:46:25,740
little mouth and she looks like
she looks like

1758
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:28,800
she's CNN she she did some
political correspondent.

1759
01:46:29,490 --> 01:46:32,460
Yeah, she's and she's got these
huge eyeballs. She looks like

1760
01:46:32,490 --> 01:46:33,270
she's a grey.

1761
01:46:36,150 --> 01:46:39,150
She's not a great but our and
keep going. You don't know that

1762
01:46:39,150 --> 01:46:41,640
you do. How do you know that?
She's too tall to be a grey.

1763
01:46:42,900 --> 01:46:45,120
Wouldn't make you think she's
tall. Let me look her up into

1764
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:46,620
Wikipedia. I don't think she
writes it. I

1765
01:46:46,620 --> 01:46:52,650
think she could. I believe she
is a tall. I believe she's a

1766
01:46:52,650 --> 01:46:54,660
tall blonde. I do not believe
she's a grey.

1767
01:46:55,169 --> 01:47:00,989
I'm sorry, I do not see a height
listed. No. As usual, okay with

1768
01:47:01,649 --> 01:47:04,979
that in advance. She's got Ted
Cruz sitting in the chair who

1769
01:47:04,979 --> 01:47:07,469
was suckered apparently, even
though I'm not a big fan of Ted

1770
01:47:07,469 --> 01:47:10,649
Cruz. And I do want to mention
that just as another aside, is

1771
01:47:10,649 --> 01:47:13,469
that I was I was go I went to
the city. So I listen to Michael

1772
01:47:13,469 --> 01:47:17,579
Savage, which is one of the
radio talk show guys. And he

1773
01:47:17,609 --> 01:47:21,719
went on he he went ballistic,
which is his best time to listen

1774
01:47:21,719 --> 01:47:25,229
to radio. And he goes ballistic,
about somebody approaching him

1775
01:47:25,229 --> 01:47:30,569
about native advertising. And he
he says the deal and he told the

1776
01:47:30,569 --> 01:47:33,029
deal. He says he was on a
confidential, they couldn't say

1777
01:47:33,029 --> 01:47:35,309
what the company was, even
though he kind of hinted it was

1778
01:47:35,309 --> 01:47:40,679
the Tea Party Express. They came
to him and they apparently have

1779
01:47:40,679 --> 01:47:44,849
gone to all the right wing talk
show guys. And the deal was you

1780
01:47:44,849 --> 01:47:51,119
have just 234 spots in it in a
three hour period. Plus, you

1781
01:47:51,119 --> 01:47:55,289
have to bring on a
representative to talk about the

1782
01:47:55,289 --> 01:48:00,329
Tea Party, the Tea Party and to
promote the pack and push people

1783
01:48:00,329 --> 01:48:03,539
toward the pack. And you have to
bring one on every hour and a

1784
01:48:03,539 --> 01:48:06,749
half. And it was a third and at
one point you have to

1785
01:48:06,749 --> 01:48:09,749
editorialise as part of the
native advertising about how

1786
01:48:09,749 --> 01:48:11,009
great this is. So

1787
01:48:11,610 --> 01:48:16,050
just just for people who are new
to the show, native advertising

1788
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:21,240
is this new thing and it's new
to the interwebs where

1789
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:25,230
advertisers control the the
story,

1790
01:48:25,710 --> 01:48:28,890
editorial content, editorial
content, they trick you into

1791
01:48:28,890 --> 01:48:34,140
thinking somebody is writing a
story about them. Legitimately I

1792
01:48:34,140 --> 01:48:36,090
can tell legitimate story but
they're actually here's an

1793
01:48:36,090 --> 01:48:36,780
example many

1794
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:41,640
here's an example. Here's an
example. Okay, I would say John

1795
01:48:42,570 --> 01:48:46,800
Hey, John. Hey Adam. Have you
received the new chocolate

1796
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:48,270
healthy surprise box?

1797
01:48:48,510 --> 01:48:53,520
Holy crap that is fantastic. It
really is by the way Adam How

1798
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:57,360
can you you know we're getting
those things are fantastic. how

1799
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:58,740
can listeners get a

1800
01:48:58,770 --> 01:49:02,730
well if you go to healthy
surprise.com Y'all can get

1801
01:49:02,730 --> 01:49:04,410
yourself one of these boxes too.

1802
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,950
Yeah, yeah. Now the only and it
would be like we were actually

1803
01:49:07,980 --> 01:49:10,800
plugging these guys now. The
only problem the last healthy

1804
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:14,040
surprise box that we got there
was some weird chocolate in

1805
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:21,570
there that is actually good. No,
I love the little round ones. If

1806
01:49:21,570 --> 01:49:24,030
you have one of those things
little they're horrible. I don't

1807
01:49:24,030 --> 01:49:26,580
know what the little round a
little round chocolate thing is.

1808
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,390
It's got grit in it. It's got
like like just the sugar is

1809
01:49:30,390 --> 01:49:33,810
never asked us for sandwich the
whole thing out.

1810
01:49:34,170 --> 01:49:38,430
Okay, well, we like our
chocolate box. But anyway, fan,

1811
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,640
so So if we got a big check paid
us to do that. That would be

1812
01:49:41,670 --> 01:49:43,380
that would be that would be
native advertising.

1813
01:49:43,410 --> 01:49:47,730
Exactly. So so savage went off
the deep end on this and bitched

1814
01:49:47,730 --> 01:49:51,150
and moaned and he and he kept
talking about Ted Cruz

1815
01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:54,570
apparently is just got some new
Ted Cruz and meanwhile so he

1816
01:49:54,570 --> 01:49:58,050
goes to commercial break and I
switch to Hannity. And

1817
01:49:59,880 --> 01:50:01,350
I Hannity was doing the whole

1818
01:50:01,620 --> 01:50:04,650
they had a substitute in there
but she was talking to a Tea

1819
01:50:04,650 --> 01:50:08,550
Party Express and the whole
thing I listened to it after

1820
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:11,340
listening to savage go off the
deep dive said this is it this

1821
01:50:11,340 --> 01:50:14,490
is a Hannity's obviously being
bought off by these guys. Yeah,

1822
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,770
so this right now I want to tell
people out there when you're

1823
01:50:16,770 --> 01:50:20,400
listening to any of this crap on
the radio, you got a good chance

1824
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:24,600
of being duped. Yeah, it's
advertising bull crap. Yeah. So

1825
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:28,470
meanwhile, Dana Bash has got
this a great shaggy dog story.

1826
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:32,760
She's got Ted Cruz on the on the
chair and he got suckered into

1827
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:35,580
coming in for some reason. And
so she plays him to Ted Nugent

1828
01:50:35,580 --> 01:50:40,650
thing. And then she goes after
him. Would you allow Ted Nugent

1829
01:50:40,650 --> 01:50:45,360
on the stage saying such a
thing? Would you apologise? And

1830
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:48,870
she just goes ballistic about
this Ted Nugent thing and he's

1831
01:50:48,870 --> 01:50:53,340
gone. i He was ambushed. He goes
I be you know, he's gonna break

1832
01:50:53,340 --> 01:50:56,250
it together, right to say
whatever he wants with you, you

1833
01:50:56,250 --> 01:51:00,090
know, condemn what he says,
Well, I don't I don't agree with

1834
01:51:00,090 --> 01:51:03,090
what he says. I never said any
of that. And it was very funny.

1835
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:05,790
But did you set him up by saying
this is what Hitler called the

1836
01:51:05,790 --> 01:51:10,260
Jews? She put Did you set him up
like that your way? Oh, wow.

1837
01:51:10,260 --> 01:51:10,920
Perfect.

1838
01:51:11,610 --> 01:51:16,680
I like it. Anyway, so be on the
lookout for this bold crowd,

1839
01:51:16,710 --> 01:51:17,190
man.

1840
01:51:17,639 --> 01:51:24,629
i Wow. Just uh, I woke up this
morning about the go to fail.

1841
01:51:26,009 --> 01:51:27,509
You'd heard of the go to fail.

1842
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:32,880
That you talking about the Apple
go to failure to vote and

1843
01:51:33,030 --> 01:51:35,520
Twitter or something. This is
apple.

1844
01:51:36,210 --> 01:51:40,740
And they rise apple. Yeah. So
they released a an emergency

1845
01:51:40,740 --> 01:51:47,310
patch for iOS, but they also
have to release it for 10.9.

1846
01:51:47,310 --> 01:51:53,760
Whatever the Mavericks thing, it
essentially I'm going to be I'm

1847
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,280
going to give you some words,
but here's how I understand it.

1848
01:51:56,580 --> 01:52:00,690
It actually is a vulnerability
for their version of SSL for the

1849
01:52:00,690 --> 01:52:06,120
for secure communication over
the internet. And when you see

1850
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:11,130
this bug, and if you understand
anything about code, and the

1851
01:52:11,130 --> 01:52:17,070
fact that it was introduced into
the iOS code, about four weeks

1852
01:52:17,070 --> 01:52:21,870
before the prison document
claims that Apple was on board,

1853
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:27,210
you gotta think this is no
coincidence. And it is literally

1854
01:52:27,210 --> 01:52:32,580
a bug in the code. And if you
look at the code, it's using a

1855
01:52:32,580 --> 01:52:35,760
go to statement. Now we know
this from our basic days will

1856
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:42,600
be, you know, 10, print Hello,
world. 20, go to 10. So the

1857
01:52:42,660 --> 01:52:46,020
practice of using go to
statements in modern code, it's

1858
01:52:46,020 --> 01:52:49,530
probably been frowned upon for
about 25 years, at least Yeah,

1859
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:53,220
because it's not a very good
idea, because it can come back

1860
01:52:53,220 --> 01:52:55,680
to bite you in the ass when
something changes somewhere

1861
01:52:56,790 --> 01:52:59,400
here, but meanwhile, you don't
remember that was there and then

1862
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,580
you change something where it
was going to ruin you can't

1863
01:53:02,580 --> 01:53:03,210
figure out why.

1864
01:53:03,210 --> 01:53:09,390
So this is a essentially a
security handshake. failover and

1865
01:53:09,420 --> 01:53:14,520
somehow erroneously. So there's
a statement that says if if the

1866
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:18,480
SSL cert if the if the Secure
Socket Layer state is this, then

1867
01:53:18,480 --> 01:53:22,170
go to fail, which is and then
fail as a separate command,

1868
01:53:22,170 --> 01:53:26,070
which should then essentially
fail the handshake. But then

1869
01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:29,700
underneath it was an erroneous
line that just said go to fail

1870
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:34,080
without an if statement. So when
you're when you're logging in,

1871
01:53:34,290 --> 01:53:36,840
with just when you're when
you're submitting your, your

1872
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:39,810
password to website, very
interesting, it would

1873
01:53:39,810 --> 01:53:44,460
essentially render if you if
you. So anyone who has an iPhone

1874
01:53:44,460 --> 01:53:47,760
or anything like that, and you
know you can, and I'm still on

1875
01:53:47,790 --> 01:53:51,750
six, which is where this was
introduced, you go to go to

1876
01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:55,440
failed.com. And you'll see that
it's compromised. And then

1877
01:53:55,440 --> 01:53:58,590
there's no does my SSL work.com.
There's all these other places.

1878
01:53:58,950 --> 01:54:02,370
And this is an all of a sudden,
this has now come to light. But

1879
01:54:02,370 --> 01:54:04,650
you look at the timing because
you people are looking at the

1880
01:54:04,650 --> 01:54:08,310
code. This was introduced three
to four weeks before the prism

1881
01:54:08,310 --> 01:54:11,850
slide says that Apple joined
onboard the programme and was

1882
01:54:11,850 --> 01:54:15,690
open for the NSA, you know, had
basically had a backdoor.

1883
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,900
Now essentially, it turned off
the security of Yes,

1884
01:54:18,900 --> 01:54:23,910
yes. Yes. Well, it's not
entirely but you can use a it

1885
01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:27,390
does not validate a certain type
of certificate so you could

1886
01:54:27,390 --> 01:54:28,620
spoof it very easily.

1887
01:54:29,220 --> 01:54:32,670
Yeah, yeah, essentially is what
it meant, what it was set meant

1888
01:54:32,670 --> 01:54:33,060
to do,

1889
01:54:33,450 --> 01:54:36,930
and so on. So now they've now
for me, this is a big pain in

1890
01:54:36,930 --> 01:54:41,580
the ass because I I have not
upgraded to iOS seven. I really

1891
01:54:41,580 --> 01:54:44,970
didn't want to do that. But now
I can't use a device that is

1892
01:54:44,970 --> 01:54:50,490
just broadcasting passwords.
I've used my banking software on

1893
01:54:50,490 --> 01:54:56,790
this on this iPod Touch. So
basically, anyone who was

1894
01:54:56,790 --> 01:54:59,670
snooping my packets which could
be Wi Fi which is the only way

1895
01:54:59,670 --> 01:55:05,130
that thing Connect. No would
have my information. Yeah. This

1896
01:55:05,130 --> 01:55:13,260
is unacceptable from Apple on
acceptable. And I, I I think

1897
01:55:13,260 --> 01:55:18,990
that there was either a rogue
agent who put this in the in

1898
01:55:18,990 --> 01:55:20,820
fact, that's the only thing I
can think of people are saying,

1899
01:55:20,820 --> 01:55:24,960
Oh yeah, you didn't have
debugging turned on and bull

1900
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:32,370
crap. Bull crap. This is such
this is such a dumb bug. This is

1901
01:55:32,370 --> 01:55:36,660
such a rookie mistake the fact
that they would allow developers

1902
01:55:36,660 --> 01:55:44,250
to use go to statements in your
SSL TLS code. Really? Very,

1903
01:55:44,250 --> 01:55:48,480
very, very sketchy. It's very
handy. Yeah, well, but Apple

1904
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:51,000
will get a pass of course. Oh,
well, they fix it at least.

1905
01:55:52,830 --> 01:55:55,410
Yeah, well, it's like the Human
Rights Watch it essentially that

1906
01:55:55,410 --> 01:55:58,650
they went over all the details
of the killing of the wedding

1907
01:55:58,740 --> 01:56:01,320
group. Yeah. And so it's fine.
Everybody's happy because this

1908
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:01,770
looks like

1909
01:56:01,770 --> 01:56:03,630
It looks tasty. It's legal
there. We're

1910
01:56:03,630 --> 01:56:05,070
on top of it. Good to go.

1911
01:56:06,990 --> 01:56:10,530
Very, very, very disturbing.
Very, very disturbing. I would

1912
01:56:10,530 --> 01:56:10,860
say.

1913
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:15,780
i Oh, but oh, we have a quick
break here. I think we let's

1914
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:19,050
I've got a direct connection
here. Let's check in with Tom

1915
01:56:19,050 --> 01:56:23,910
Hartman. Tom Hartman. Are you
trying to hurt me? Check in with

1916
01:56:23,910 --> 01:56:26,430
Tom Hartman come on every 68
with highs of

1917
01:56:28,350 --> 01:56:31,590
Farmington, Minnesota sitting at
40 counts per minute with spikes

1918
01:56:31,590 --> 01:56:35,430
to 62. And Rapid City South
Dakota is hovering at 39 with

1919
01:56:35,430 --> 01:56:39,120
highs of 55 counts per minute
red casts alert level is 100

1920
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:42,150
counts per minute. However, they
remind us that there is no such

1921
01:56:42,150 --> 01:56:44,730
thing as a safe level of
radiation.

1922
01:56:46,020 --> 01:56:50,040
Gamma you went You took so long
to get to the Tom Hardy and live

1923
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:51,930
that we missed the San Francisco
readings.

1924
01:56:54,330 --> 01:56:56,280
What are you talking about? San
Francisco gotta

1925
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:58,320
be high readings because of
Fukushima.

1926
01:56:58,350 --> 01:57:00,600
Oh, I'm sorry. Am I okay?

1927
01:57:02,250 --> 01:57:08,340
Next time we'll we'll keep an
eye on this. Oh, by the way, I

1928
01:57:08,340 --> 01:57:11,880
am of the opinion that Hartman
actually thinks he's setting a

1929
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:12,660
trend here.

1930
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:16,710
Oh, by reading the bullcrap,
radiation numbers,

1931
01:57:17,670 --> 01:57:18,960
radiation levels?

1932
01:57:19,530 --> 01:57:22,530
Yeah, I might actually start
doing something dumb like that.

1933
01:57:22,530 --> 01:57:26,610
It's just funny enough. It's
just funny. I have a question

1934
01:57:26,610 --> 01:57:32,790
for you. And this actually came
up. So let me let me let me step

1935
01:57:32,790 --> 01:57:37,650
back a couple things happen in
the agenda 21, client climate

1936
01:57:37,650 --> 01:57:42,780
science, global warming stuff.
And it started kind of with an

1937
01:57:42,780 --> 01:57:48,750
email. Someone who asked us
about our stance on global

1938
01:57:48,750 --> 01:57:51,780
warming, and he was new to the
show. And you wrote a very

1939
01:57:51,780 --> 01:57:56,550
eloquent email. Which I put in
the show notes, kind of

1940
01:57:56,550 --> 01:58:00,630
explaining why, you know, we're
not buying this. Yeah, we're not

1941
01:58:00,630 --> 01:58:05,160
on board. We're not on board
with it. And then at the same

1942
01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:09,720
time, we discover the great you
see, what's the name of the

1943
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:14,580
great climate climate to was a
great global one. That why the

1944
01:58:14,580 --> 01:58:17,250
great global warming swindle now
the great global warming

1945
01:58:17,250 --> 01:58:21,510
Swindle. That's it. Yeah.
Excellent film is it's a great

1946
01:58:21,510 --> 01:58:25,740
film and what it shows is how
co2 and this of course is bad,

1947
01:58:25,740 --> 01:58:29,550
everyone's debunked everything,
but how co2 follows heat not

1948
01:58:29,550 --> 01:58:31,350
heat following you know, co2.

1949
01:58:31,980 --> 01:58:34,230
logically makes sense. If you
think about it does

1950
01:58:35,130 --> 01:58:40,710
and then Bill Nighy was on C
span you

1951
01:58:41,610 --> 01:58:45,780
a rare moment, I was going to
almost borderline getting a clip

1952
01:58:45,780 --> 01:58:46,170
of that.

1953
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:49,710
Well, well, well, I got one and
there's Oh, I

1954
01:58:49,710 --> 01:58:50,430
didn't know you?

1955
01:58:51,090 --> 01:58:54,450
Well, there's a reason for it.
Okay, well, let me do this.

1956
01:58:54,450 --> 01:58:57,420
First, let me play you a little
clip from the great global

1957
01:58:57,420 --> 01:59:00,330
warming Swindle. And this by the
way, we should mention this is

1958
01:59:00,330 --> 01:59:06,600
an old man it's from 2007 It's
it's for what is it? Seven years

1959
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:10,740
old? Seven years old. And by the
dump, I think BBC wasn't always

1960
01:59:10,740 --> 01:59:11,700
a channel for

1961
01:59:11,730 --> 01:59:14,550
this was independent and it was
and they have lots of it's a

1962
01:59:14,580 --> 01:59:16,590
really very entertaining

1963
01:59:16,620 --> 01:59:21,030
it did air it did air in the in
the UK. Okay, so what do any

1964
01:59:21,030 --> 01:59:23,580
good did it know what what's
interesting about it? Well,

1965
01:59:23,580 --> 01:59:26,940
there's, they go into the
science very deeply. But there's

1966
01:59:26,940 --> 01:59:33,000
also a number of IPCC members,
the Intergovernmental Panel on

1967
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:37,440
Climate Change, who were a part
of who actually authored parts

1968
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:41,370
of one of the first reports. And
here's that little segment that

1969
01:59:41,370 --> 01:59:44,040
I pulled out of the movie, which
and there's a link in the show

1970
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,350
notes to where you can actually
see the whole thing. But this

1971
01:59:46,350 --> 01:59:48,570
was it's fun to listen to this.

1972
01:59:48,809 --> 01:59:51,569
I've often heard it said that
there's a consensus of 1000s of

1973
01:59:51,569 --> 01:59:54,689
scientists on the global warming
issue and the humans are causing

1974
01:59:54,689 --> 01:59:58,439
a catastrophic change to the
climate system. Well, I am one

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01:59:58,439 --> 02:00:01,169
scientist and there are many
that's simply think that is not

1976
02:00:01,169 --> 02:00:01,469
true.

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02:00:01,830 --> 02:00:05,250
manmade global warming is no
ordinary scientific theory.

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02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:07,140
This morning, the
Intergovernmental Panel on

1979
02:00:07,140 --> 02:00:09,660
Climate Change made up it is
presented in the media

1980
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:13,080
as having the stamp of authority
of an impressive international

1981
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:17,400
organisation from the IPCC, the
United Nations Intergovernmental

1982
02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:22,470
Panel on Climate Change, or
IPCC, the IPCC, like

1983
02:00:22,530 --> 02:00:27,090
any UN body is political, the
final conclusions are

1984
02:00:27,090 --> 02:00:28,290
politically driven

1985
02:00:28,350 --> 02:00:35,580
this claim that the IPCC is the
world's top 1500 or 2500.

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02:00:35,850 --> 02:00:39,270
Scientists, you look at the
bibliographies of the people.

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02:00:39,270 --> 02:00:42,270
And it's simply not true, there
are quite a number of non

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02:00:42,270 --> 02:00:43,080
scientists

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02:00:43,110 --> 02:00:46,830
and to build the number up to
2500. They have to start taking

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02:00:46,830 --> 02:00:50,700
reviewers and government people
and so on anyone who ever came

1991
02:00:50,700 --> 02:00:56,100
close to them. And none of them
are asked to agree. Many of them

1992
02:00:56,100 --> 02:00:56,970
disagree

1993
02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:00,570
those people who are
specialists, but don't agree

1994
02:01:00,570 --> 02:01:04,320
with the polemic, and resign and
there have been a number that I

1995
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:08,730
know of, they are simply put on
the author list and become part

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02:01:08,730 --> 02:01:11,370
of this 2500 of the world's top
scientists,

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02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:15,270
people have decided you have to
convince other people that since

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02:01:15,270 --> 02:01:19,800
no scientist disagrees, you
shouldn't disagree, either. But

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02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:22,800
that whenever you hear that in
science, that's pure propaganda,

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02:01:22,830 --> 02:01:23,160
guys,

2001
02:01:23,190 --> 02:01:26,100
so definitely worth watching. I
like that, because there were

2002
02:01:26,100 --> 02:01:27,990
actual IPCC guys.

2003
02:01:28,530 --> 02:01:30,750
And there was a lot of heavy
hitters on there, but they're

2004
02:01:30,750 --> 02:01:33,360
all you know, at the University
of Winnipeg and places where

2005
02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:37,020
they didn't get hounded to
death. Yeah, to shut up. Well,

2006
02:01:37,050 --> 02:01:39,450
and so a couple of things point
out that there's a big

2007
02:01:39,450 --> 02:01:41,910
moneymaker. Well, I was thinking

2008
02:01:41,910 --> 02:01:46,710
about this is seven years ago,
that this climate change

2009
02:01:46,710 --> 02:01:52,710
business it really truly is,
along with stuff that kills

2010
02:01:52,710 --> 02:01:57,030
people, like you know, bombs and
planes and ships and weapons. It

2011
02:01:57,030 --> 02:02:00,150
truly is an it is part of it's a
huge part of the economy. Now,

2012
02:02:00,570 --> 02:02:04,590
it is the the I think the elites
are basing a lot of the economy

2013
02:02:04,590 --> 02:02:11,520
on this premise. You know, we
this is why we make solar panels

2014
02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:16,500
and, and windmills and then
green and battery cars, all of

2015
02:02:16,500 --> 02:02:20,910
this comes from this, you know,
this, this basic premise of

2016
02:02:20,940 --> 02:02:24,510
manmade global warming. But
there's a little other piece to

2017
02:02:24,510 --> 02:02:28,800
it, which I was, I have a
question for you. When you

2018
02:02:28,860 --> 02:02:32,190
texted me You said Oh, my God,
look at C span to the by the

2019
02:02:32,190 --> 02:02:34,080
way, this is how exciting our
lives are.

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02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:39,600
Hey, man, turn on C span to now
we don't do it as much as we

2021
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:39,960
used to.

2022
02:02:40,650 --> 02:02:42,930
But when I get it from your
like, because I would have just

2023
02:02:42,930 --> 02:02:45,450
taken a shower, I'd to go to
make a show, you know, like C

2024
02:02:45,450 --> 02:02:48,210
span to Damn, I gotta turn on
the C span. Something's

2025
02:02:48,210 --> 02:02:52,440
happening right now. And it's
Bill Nye the Science Guy, the

2026
02:02:52,470 --> 02:03:04,110
comedian clown. Fighting for two
hours, this one on a religious

2027
02:03:04,110 --> 02:03:07,620
guy. I don't even know who it
was. And the and the argument

2028
02:03:07,620 --> 02:03:11,430
was, and there onstage
creationism versus science.

2029
02:03:12,330 --> 02:03:15,330
Essentially, it's science. And
so here's a little bit of just

2030
02:03:15,540 --> 02:03:17,190
how Bill Nye is talking.

2031
02:03:17,610 --> 02:03:22,530
Now, I just want to remind us
all there are billions of people

2032
02:03:22,530 --> 02:03:27,630
in the world who are deeply
religious, who get enriched, who

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02:03:27,630 --> 02:03:30,180
have a wonderful sense of
community from their religion,

2034
02:03:30,630 --> 02:03:34,500
they worship together, they eat
together, they live in their

2035
02:03:34,500 --> 02:03:37,770
communities and enjoys other
company, billions of people. But

2036
02:03:37,770 --> 02:03:42,450
the same people do not embrace
the extraordinary view that the

2037
02:03:42,450 --> 02:03:48,030
earth is somehow only 6000 years
old. That is unique. And here's

2038
02:03:48,030 --> 02:03:52,530
my concern. What keeps the
United States ahead, what makes

2039
02:03:52,530 --> 02:03:57,900
the United States a world leader
is our technology, our new ideas

2040
02:03:57,900 --> 02:04:02,970
or innovations. If we continue
to eschew science, as to the

2041
02:04:02,970 --> 02:04:07,230
process and try to divide
science into observational

2042
02:04:07,230 --> 02:04:11,010
science and historic science, we
are not going to move forward.

2043
02:04:11,010 --> 02:04:13,050
We will not embrace natural
laws, we will not make

2044
02:04:13,050 --> 02:04:18,600
discoveries, we will not invent
and innovate and stay ahead. So

2045
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:22,740
if you ask me if Ken Ham's
creation model is viable, I say

2046
02:04:22,740 --> 02:04:25,650
no, it is absolutely not viable.
All right,

2047
02:04:25,650 --> 02:04:30,810
so now I'm watching this. With
that in mind, I'm watching this

2048
02:04:30,810 --> 02:04:31,800
documentary

2049
02:04:32,100 --> 02:04:35,730
in it. Can I just throw in
something during this whole

2050
02:04:35,730 --> 02:04:38,310
thing? I didn't watch the whole
thing couldn't take it. My

2051
02:04:38,340 --> 02:04:43,860
mouth, my jaw was it was wide
open the whole time. Why is

2052
02:04:43,860 --> 02:04:49,860
anyone wasting their time? Under
any circumstances? arguing about

2053
02:04:49,860 --> 02:04:52,530
whether the earth is 6000 years
old or not? There are too many

2054
02:04:52,530 --> 02:04:57,030
things like I could be cleaning
my office. I mean, it's just a

2055
02:04:57,030 --> 02:04:59,340
ludicrous argument. And what
difference does it make? I mean,

2056
02:04:59,340 --> 02:05:02,820
it's like No, the Earth is like
obviously not 6000 years old,

2057
02:05:02,820 --> 02:05:05,130
but I'm gonna debate some guy
who thinks it is for some

2058
02:05:05,130 --> 02:05:07,710
religious reason because he
believes it is. Yeah, I think I

2059
02:05:07,710 --> 02:05:10,830
think that nothing, just nothing
to discuss is what he thinks. So

2060
02:05:10,830 --> 02:05:11,550
what do you have it? There's

2061
02:05:11,550 --> 02:05:15,570
something interesting here.
Okay. As I'm watching this

2062
02:05:15,570 --> 02:05:18,630
documentary and they're you
know, and they're talking about

2063
02:05:18,660 --> 02:05:22,380
millions of years and 1000s of
years and hundreds of 1000s of

2064
02:05:22,380 --> 02:05:26,820
years and you know, evolution
and did a whole class you cannot

2065
02:05:26,820 --> 02:05:33,570
believe in manmade global
warming without believing in. In

2066
02:05:33,570 --> 02:05:42,630
evolution. It is impossible
bullshit. Why is it then that

2067
02:05:42,630 --> 02:05:45,960
the same people who are all Why
does our president on one hand

2068
02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:51,660
say climate change is real? But
then at the end, he says, God

2069
02:05:51,660 --> 02:05:57,870
bless America. Which one is it?
Do you believe that God is going

2070
02:05:57,870 --> 02:06:01,200
to bless them with the Clip of
the Day Thank you, this bird

2071
02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:05,700
this really bothered me and all
gore. So here's Gore he was he

2072
02:06:05,700 --> 02:06:09,300
just did a speech in Kansas
City. And he says among the

2073
02:06:09,300 --> 02:06:12,450
countries or states turning to
renewable energy strategies, the

2074
02:06:12,450 --> 02:06:16,530
Vatican is increasing use of
solar technology. Vatican city

2075
02:06:16,530 --> 02:06:20,280
wants to be the first co2
neutral sovereign city state in

2076
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:23,760
the world they have two
advantages it is very small and

2077
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:27,750
they have God on their side I
mean you cannot have everything

2078
02:06:27,750 --> 02:06:33,480
you want you can't say God is
real if you if you believe in

2079
02:06:34,290 --> 02:06:40,890
the global warming the theory of
yeah the global warming period

2080
02:06:40,890 --> 02:06:46,620
in evolution so this is to make
up your mind people so this is

2081
02:06:46,620 --> 02:06:49,800
the same thing and we've said
this before. If you believe in

2082
02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:53,250
peak oil and global warming, you
got nothing to worry about.

2083
02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:55,710
Problem will solve itself
eventually.

2084
02:06:55,830 --> 02:06:59,160
Yeah, well, that that meme
apparently went around just

2085
02:06:59,160 --> 02:07:02,310
enough not because we started it
I think it's it's other people

2086
02:07:02,310 --> 02:07:04,980
that have come up with the same
conclusion. That Peak Oil thing

2087
02:07:04,980 --> 02:07:07,200
is dead. I don't hear it now. At
all.

2088
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:10,290
No, no, it's no it's over.
Because of the dichotomy people

2089
02:07:10,290 --> 02:07:11,640
couldn't handle the question,

2090
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:15,810
or the real thing that I think
is still the most viable way you

2091
02:07:15,810 --> 02:07:18,120
know, if you believe this, even
though these people are

2092
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:20,520
insincere, because they in the
cap and trade, which is what

2093
02:07:20,520 --> 02:07:22,950
needs to be discussed, right?
They're obviously insincere,

2094
02:07:22,950 --> 02:07:26,100
they wouldn't be in the cap and
trade they'd been to cap. And if

2095
02:07:26,100 --> 02:07:28,470
they really believe this to be
true, then they would go with

2096
02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:33,450
modern nuclear power, which is
not what was built in the 70s or

2097
02:07:33,450 --> 02:07:38,370
the 50s or the 60s. This is like
50 years later. This is breeder

2098
02:07:38,370 --> 02:07:41,820
reactors, this is beyond that
thorium reactors that ones that

2099
02:07:41,820 --> 02:07:44,760
are enclosed, they never give
off waste, there's a million of

2100
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:47,100
there's wood things you can put
in your backyard. They're

2101
02:07:47,100 --> 02:07:50,970
running every new ship being
built by the US Navy, they're

2102
02:07:50,970 --> 02:07:55,230
all our aircraft carriers are
using nukes all our bases are

2103
02:07:55,230 --> 02:07:59,460
pretty much powered by these
small little ones. Why are we

2104
02:07:59,460 --> 02:08:02,190
not saying let's just go there
and there's going to be no more

2105
02:08:02,190 --> 02:08:04,290
co2 Excess co2, it's not going
to happen.

2106
02:08:04,740 --> 02:08:10,170
And because of Fukushima,
Chernobyl, Three Mile Island

2107
02:08:10,710 --> 02:08:16,380
China Syndrome we're all gonna
die nuclear bombs Nagasaki,

2108
02:08:16,380 --> 02:08:23,730
Hiroshima. That's why Anyway,
anyway, so I just you know, I'm

2109
02:08:23,730 --> 02:08:25,710
sorry I sent you that that now
that's

2110
02:08:25,710 --> 02:08:30,180
okay. No, no but but I'm I just
feel that this needs to be

2111
02:08:30,180 --> 02:08:34,110
pointed out that if you are
going to say I'm all in manmade

2112
02:08:34,110 --> 02:08:37,770
global warming millions of years
of data, then please do not

2113
02:08:37,770 --> 02:08:43,440
invoke God on me that just how
can you how can you say that?

2114
02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:49,110
Because if God truly blesses
America, then He will protect

2115
02:08:49,110 --> 02:08:49,920
us fix things

2116
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:57,240
or are you maybe you're not on
board so so this whole debate of

2117
02:08:57,270 --> 02:09:01,380
you know 6000 years and creation
and last night I was really

2118
02:09:01,380 --> 02:09:05,160
confused I got into bed I said
to me, Kay said you know, do you

2119
02:09:05,160 --> 02:09:08,190
think that maybe they could it
be that maybe there's a third

2120
02:09:08,190 --> 02:09:12,510
option or a combo to maybe it's
not just creationism? Maybe it's

2121
02:09:12,510 --> 02:09:15,930
not just evolution, maybe
there's a third option, which

2122
02:09:15,930 --> 02:09:19,440
would be the greys obviously, or
maybe there's, you know, like,

2123
02:09:19,470 --> 02:09:24,300
there was millions of years of
mash, you know, we became you

2124
02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:27,810
know, we started to evolve and,
and then you know, there was an

2125
02:09:27,810 --> 02:09:30,240
event where we accelerated and
you know, they're like some

2126
02:09:30,240 --> 02:09:33,060
magic potion poof. And here we
were,

2127
02:09:34,440 --> 02:09:38,940
what genetics do have a cascade
effect which is interesting you

2128
02:09:38,970 --> 02:09:42,390
it's best observed with dogs and
actually some other animals that

2129
02:09:42,390 --> 02:09:46,560
breed in have a genetic change
when we were breeding dogs you

2130
02:09:46,590 --> 02:09:50,370
would like it wouldn't just
change the their their

2131
02:09:50,580 --> 02:09:53,580
personalities or habits or the
fact that they can hunt all of a

2132
02:09:53,580 --> 02:09:56,640
sudden they look like completely
different beasts. Yeah, and then

2133
02:09:56,640 --> 02:10:00,000
we have this since dog breeding
is so you know, popular they

2134
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,570
We've been inventing new breeds
all the time. It's astonishing

2135
02:10:03,570 --> 02:10:06,360
what happens when the when a
cascade effect takes place and

2136
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:09,300
the dog all of a sudden, has,
you know, a completely different

2137
02:10:09,510 --> 02:10:14,310
pattern of the of coloration and
different hair and eyeballs with

2138
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:19,110
different colour. It's, it's
genetic, the cascade effect of

2139
02:10:19,260 --> 02:10:25,230
gene selection is not fully
understood. I'm not using

2140
02:10:25,230 --> 02:10:26,010
puppies anymore.

2141
02:10:28,500 --> 02:10:32,910
I am. I know I have to say I
see. Maybe it's probably my age,

2142
02:10:32,910 --> 02:10:36,090
but I see such an increase in
dog ownership. And I look at

2143
02:10:36,090 --> 02:10:40,800
these people. I'm like, Why do
you want a dog? I mean, why?

2144
02:10:40,980 --> 02:10:45,720
It's you. You can't let the dog
run around. Loose. You got to

2145
02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:48,930
pick up his crap. What is the
pleasure of this?

2146
02:10:49,350 --> 02:10:52,680
I don't know. I mean, I've had
dogs. I like dogs. I like dogs,

2147
02:10:52,680 --> 02:10:55,380
too. I don't go out of my way to
own one. Even though I own a

2148
02:10:55,380 --> 02:10:59,370
bunch of them because Mimi owns
a bunch of them. Yeah. Cats are

2149
02:10:59,370 --> 02:11:01,350
very interesting. Even more
interesting because they have a

2150
02:11:01,350 --> 02:11:05,070
parasite that if you ever catch
this disease, you love cats.

2151
02:11:05,850 --> 02:11:08,670
I also don't like the cat. I
don't like having to empty the

2152
02:11:08,670 --> 02:11:10,020
cats poo box.

2153
02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:14,190
Oh, the poop post is the worst.
I'm sick and tired of that

2154
02:11:14,190 --> 02:11:15,210
parasite, by the way.

2155
02:11:15,270 --> 02:11:18,720
Yeah. Yeah, that's why pregnant
women can't have cat. But it's

2156
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:21,810
just no no, no, no, it's maybe
I've had all kinds of pets but

2157
02:11:21,810 --> 02:11:24,990
every pet known to man, but I
don't see how dogs are

2158
02:11:25,380 --> 02:11:28,860
in today's attic giant? Like a
tiger or

2159
02:11:29,070 --> 02:11:32,700
today? No. Yeah, I've had that
to today's society. I see. And I

2160
02:11:32,700 --> 02:11:37,710
see people just observe. I see
people with dogs at the market

2161
02:11:37,710 --> 02:11:40,050
here and it's a big thing and it
might get your dog on the leash

2162
02:11:40,050 --> 02:11:42,930
and and that you know half the
dogs like being pulled along

2163
02:11:42,930 --> 02:11:46,350
like what what I smell some?
Like smell some good over there.

2164
02:11:46,680 --> 02:11:50,130
Next janked away. Oh, yeah,
someone's like, Oh, this is my

2165
02:11:50,130 --> 02:11:55,920
dog said said said said goodbye.
Said. Why are you yelling at the

2166
02:11:55,920 --> 02:12:00,420
dog? You want chicken you want
chicken sent said said? What are

2167
02:12:00,420 --> 02:12:04,230
you proving to me? You've
trained this dog and was getting

2168
02:12:04,230 --> 02:12:09,090
some chicken to sit? Wow, I'm
impressed. It's sad. I find it

2169
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:14,460
really sad. Sorry, well, I owe a
tangent.

2170
02:12:14,790 --> 02:12:18,090
I'm gonna show my school by
donating to no agenda. Imagine

2171
02:12:18,090 --> 02:12:20,790
all the people who could do
that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.

2172
02:12:28,740 --> 02:12:33,570
We do a very few people to thank
for the show 594 including

2173
02:12:33,570 --> 02:12:37,920
Andrew Walton who came in with
$223.33 from New Hope Minnesota.

2174
02:12:38,610 --> 02:12:43,020
And he says I don't want to wait
another 196 months for my $5

2175
02:12:43,020 --> 02:12:45,600
monthly subscription earn me a
knighthood. So I saw you move it

2176
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:45,990
along.

2177
02:12:47,550 --> 02:12:50,070
And what is it while you're
still producing content? In

2178
02:12:50,070 --> 02:12:51,360
other words, do you know
something

2179
02:12:51,390 --> 02:12:54,660
before the native advertising
comes in that makes us rich men?

2180
02:12:55,410 --> 02:12:59,310
Yes. beyond our wildest dreams.
Great value

2181
02:12:59,310 --> 02:13:02,010
great value. If I could get a
jobs calm he'd be we'll give it

2182
02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:04,140
all the comments. At the end,
you'll get that it'll be your

2183
02:13:04,140 --> 02:13:08,520
job karma. I did get a note from
Frank mon twill. From Haley

2184
02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:14,340
corners, Wisconsin. He donated
$112.34 it because he has a

2185
02:13:14,340 --> 02:13:17,610
couple of get the douchebag
button ready. He sent a note in

2186
02:13:17,610 --> 02:13:20,340
with a couple of verses first
donation. So he needs a D

2187
02:13:20,340 --> 02:13:22,710
douching. And we'll do D
douching. And karma at the end

2188
02:13:22,710 --> 02:13:26,280
of the show. But we do these in
real time. And once a douchebag

2189
02:13:26,280 --> 02:13:30,360
call out to his nephew, Michael
Johnson who punched me in the

2190
02:13:30,360 --> 02:13:37,200
mouth last summer and so give
him a douchebag. And it's Blaine

2191
02:13:37,200 --> 02:13:40,950
sang Tsar who I punched in the
mouth shortly thereafter, yet

2192
02:13:40,950 --> 02:13:47,910
both have never donated. And he
has a request for a nice name,

2193
02:13:47,910 --> 02:13:49,710
which I'm not going to give away
because it's somebody might

2194
02:13:49,710 --> 02:13:50,280
steal it.

2195
02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:52,200
Yeah, it's like that's like
domain names.

2196
02:13:52,590 --> 02:13:55,980
Yeah, you got to be careful and
be very careful him Sam Minar in

2197
02:13:56,760 --> 02:14:02,070
Victoria, Australia. $111.11.
And she wants to make it rain

2198
02:14:02,070 --> 02:14:06,030
for Jenny. Hey, put her on the
list. When is the club

2199
02:14:06,030 --> 02:14:06,990
open? Man you got

2200
02:14:07,350 --> 02:14:09,390
it probably next Thursday. It
looks like they're the painters

2201
02:14:09,390 --> 02:14:13,950
are in today and it should be
dry and ready for work because I

2202
02:14:13,980 --> 02:14:17,880
was expected to dry it out by
tomorrow afternoon. How's the

2203
02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:20,670
poll? And they're working on
Sunday for God's sake.

2204
02:14:20,880 --> 02:14:21,780
How's the poll?

2205
02:14:22,050 --> 02:14:26,670
The polls are all greased and
ready. All right. Christopher

2206
02:14:26,670 --> 02:14:30,570
wolf in Mooresville, Indiana,
Hunter $11 lemma says no note

2207
02:14:30,930 --> 02:14:34,800
was to bring anyone to the
stage. Alex Sorlie in Bergen,

2208
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:40,680
Norway. He wants wish to call
douchebag on the payroll office

2209
02:14:40,680 --> 02:14:44,490
who be late in my donation with
a temporary

2210
02:14:44,490 --> 02:14:51,960
problem. Let me do a bad Chad.
Bad Chad from bad Chad from

2211
02:14:52,350 --> 02:14:55,380
Colorado here's 100 bucks value
for value as informally agreed

2212
02:14:55,380 --> 02:14:58,950
upon a gentleman's deal without
need for contracts or lawyers or

2213
02:14:58,950 --> 02:15:02,370
contrivance. Thank you for your
courage that is somewhat

2214
02:15:02,370 --> 02:15:06,030
facetious statement based on
some bullcrap elites what they

2215
02:15:06,030 --> 02:15:09,630
say to each other in public but
I think I mean it earnestly. The

2216
02:15:09,630 --> 02:15:12,090
commitment you and John have
made to this ideal is courageous

2217
02:15:12,090 --> 02:15:14,730
I sincerely hope the two of you
realise that your efforts are

2218
02:15:14,730 --> 02:15:17,520
appreciated and valued. If you
could please hit me with some

2219
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:20,430
with that job karma we discuss
this now Chad stayed at our at

2220
02:15:20,430 --> 02:15:23,940
our house when he was getting
his. He's going for lieutenant

2221
02:15:24,540 --> 02:15:28,020
and he had to take the test here
in Austin or to get training. So

2222
02:15:28,020 --> 02:15:32,100
Monday and Tuesday has Incident
Command scenario, interview and

2223
02:15:32,100 --> 02:15:35,310
oral defence of his
prioritisation of a list of

2224
02:15:35,310 --> 02:15:39,300
predetermined objectives. If I'm
successful, I will progress to

2225
02:15:39,300 --> 02:15:41,820
the Chiefs interview the
following week. There's another

2226
02:15:41,820 --> 02:15:44,910
candidate in the process that I
have hit in the mouth to him if

2227
02:15:44,910 --> 02:15:48,330
he's listening. I can only say
this. You should have donated

2228
02:15:48,330 --> 02:15:48,990
douchebag

2229
02:15:52,320 --> 02:15:53,250
shaggy dogs

2230
02:15:53,700 --> 02:15:57,210
I love it. Well, this is bad
Chad who wrote the the mountain

2231
02:15:57,210 --> 02:16:01,350
bike toilet roll story. He's
good, right? He's a good writer.

2232
02:16:01,410 --> 02:16:03,720
Sounds like he should stop
saving people's lives and just

2233
02:16:03,720 --> 02:16:05,190
write what I tell

2234
02:16:05,610 --> 02:16:10,650
you both Patrick manga and
Tacoma Washington $100. He says

2235
02:16:10,650 --> 02:16:13,050
some of his course tax dollars
got returned.

2236
02:16:13,230 --> 02:16:15,480
Oh nice.

2237
02:16:16,080 --> 02:16:24,180
Good old dame Joanie daughter
Frey in Morgantown. She's been

2238
02:16:24,180 --> 02:16:26,940
lazy and hasn't made it to the
bank to make arrangements for

2239
02:16:26,940 --> 02:16:29,430
replacing my monthly pay pal
donation since you guys

2240
02:16:29,430 --> 02:16:31,320
apparently kicked me off right?

2241
02:16:32,219 --> 02:16:33,989
On purpose. We hate you.

2242
02:16:34,980 --> 02:16:37,680
So here's what I owe to ensure
my reservation for the

2243
02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:42,210
mothership. All right. And so
she needs a good karma will she

2244
02:16:42,210 --> 02:16:44,040
she's a Damien give her a karma.
She wants

2245
02:16:44,160 --> 02:16:51,690
my mother in law karma shot.
You've got karma. What is? What

2246
02:16:51,690 --> 02:16:54,360
is a mother in law karma shot?
Maybe oh, maybe we should have

2247
02:16:54,360 --> 02:16:58,410
combined it with this. Hillary
Clinton, so that'll be the

2248
02:16:58,410 --> 02:17:00,420
mother in law karma shot from
now on.

2249
02:17:01,350 --> 02:17:08,760
We have a couple of Z's and only
a couple of 69. A couple. We

2250
02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:11,940
have two birthdays listed and
highlighted but I only see one

2251
02:17:11,940 --> 02:17:16,620
on the birthday list. Am I
wrong? I got to I got to James

2252
02:17:16,620 --> 02:17:19,890
Durant in San Diego, California.
69 and Raymond Breslin in

2253
02:17:19,890 --> 02:17:22,350
Arlington, Washington 6969

2254
02:17:22,379 --> 02:17:25,379
That's it. That's it. That's it
did all right.

2255
02:17:25,410 --> 02:17:33,210
Jeffrey Zimmerman Cranberry
Township Township, township. $60

2256
02:17:33,210 --> 02:17:39,270
and Pennsylvania nuts. Steve
Sims Petersburg, Virginia. 5678

2257
02:17:39,330 --> 02:17:41,850
double neck goes on the diamond
East Brunswick, New Jersey but

2258
02:17:41,850 --> 02:17:49,950
from Kevin Nunez eras Schatz in
been mi na Israel been Yamina

2259
02:17:50,040 --> 02:17:51,060
when you mean any me being

2260
02:17:51,840 --> 02:17:55,050
like bent like Benjamin Ville I
guess Binyamin I need

2261
02:17:55,169 --> 02:18:02,759
reports from now and we do would
be useful to us. nonnamous in

2262
02:18:02,759 --> 02:18:08,159
somewhere Kansas, and we have a
he wants to give himself a

2263
02:18:08,159 --> 02:18:10,259
douchebag we don't do that. You
can

2264
02:18:10,260 --> 02:18:12,000
only call someone else out as
douchebag

2265
02:18:12,900 --> 02:18:19,620
may see. You that are magic
stalo with you fella with stole

2266
02:18:19,620 --> 02:18:20,550
off the Loski

2267
02:18:20,580 --> 02:18:24,270
Stella Loski in Calgary Macy's
to Loski Yeah,

2268
02:18:24,359 --> 02:18:27,719
it's not Macy though something
else made she made she made she

2269
02:18:27,719 --> 02:18:30,989
made she made he's made she's to
Loski T Bell and Burghfield,

2270
02:18:30,989 --> 02:18:35,309
Berkshire, UK and finally
somebody UK this week. Jason

2271
02:18:35,309 --> 02:18:38,699
Daniels in Dallas, Texas. And
but these are all $50 By the

2272
02:18:38,699 --> 02:18:45,269
way, Peter Cohen, Ballymena and
trim which is not in the in the

2273
02:18:45,269 --> 02:18:49,919
UK. Where's that? I don't know.
I don't either. Sure. Eric VT in

2274
02:18:49,919 --> 02:18:52,799
Dublin, California right up the
road from me. Kyle Bauer, Parts

2275
02:18:52,799 --> 02:18:56,879
Unknown, Baroness Tanya Wayman,
in New York City and she sent us

2276
02:18:56,879 --> 02:19:03,809
a note with a smiley face on it.
Bog and she just says she

2277
02:19:03,809 --> 02:19:07,289
doesn't like Pay Pal either
bought it in LA Chen DRO in

2278
02:19:07,289 --> 02:19:12,599
Irvine, Texas. And finally
Benjamin C. Smith, another

2279
02:19:12,599 --> 02:19:16,199
Oaklander down the road from me
50 bucks and that concludes that

2280
02:19:16,199 --> 02:19:21,419
people who donated helped us out
with for five minutes. Show 594

2281
02:19:21,689 --> 02:19:24,659
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02:19:24,659 --> 02:19:29,369
divert that org slash and a and
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2283
02:19:29,369 --> 02:19:32,609
put in the newsletter and click
on one of them in this bringing

2284
02:19:32,609 --> 02:19:33,449
the number up a little bit.

2285
02:19:33,539 --> 02:19:36,449
Thank you all very much for
supporting the show every

2286
02:19:36,779 --> 02:19:41,039
donation about $50 is mentioned
and credited. Of course we also

2287
02:19:41,039 --> 02:19:43,649
thank our executive producer and
Associate Executive producers

2288
02:19:43,649 --> 02:19:46,469
for the programme today they get
the credit on the homepage. And

2289
02:19:46,469 --> 02:19:50,909
thank you all for your monthlies
your. We got some twos and fours

2290
02:19:50,909 --> 02:19:55,529
and fives 1111 30 threes 12
twelves all kinds of donations

2291
02:19:55,529 --> 02:19:58,619
and it's really it's beautiful.
We could use some more on

2292
02:19:58,619 --> 02:20:04,349
Thursday. But I'm sure we'll
have more value for value coming

2293
02:20:04,379 --> 02:20:09,659
your way. And as John said,
devora.org/and a

2294
02:20:17,670 --> 02:20:22,110
Dr. James Durant are drawn to 36
today and Jeffrey Zimmerman

2295
02:20:22,110 --> 02:20:25,800
congratulates his wife Jennifer
Zimmerman. She celebrates today

2296
02:20:25,800 --> 02:20:28,020
Happy Birthday familia buddies.
You had the best podcast in the

2297
02:20:28,020 --> 02:20:32,760
universe. That's it. Of course.
No nice things. No title

2298
02:20:32,760 --> 02:20:35,670
changes. That's usually what
happens when we have a down day,

2299
02:20:35,760 --> 02:20:40,890
but it does happen. New Meme
alert. New Meme alert.

2300
02:20:41,460 --> 02:20:42,600
We need a jingle for

2301
02:20:42,600 --> 02:20:47,130
that new meme. Do we not have
something? Not that I know?

2302
02:20:47,130 --> 02:20:51,540
Actually, we don't have a new
meme. Let me see. No, really,

2303
02:20:51,540 --> 02:20:52,470
you think meme

2304
02:20:52,470 --> 02:20:54,300
of the day? FB

2305
02:20:56,100 --> 02:20:57,840
meme of the day. Okay,

2306
02:20:57,900 --> 02:21:00,000
nice. No, that's no good. Don't
use it.

2307
02:21:00,780 --> 02:21:04,110
So they're training a new guy
over there at the White House to

2308
02:21:04,110 --> 02:21:07,830
be the spokes hold. His name is
Josh Earnest. And when you get

2309
02:21:07,830 --> 02:21:11,700
the new guy at this music
companies quitting? Well, you

2310
02:21:11,700 --> 02:21:14,430
got to think that carnies
ramping up yeah, of course, he's

2311
02:21:14,460 --> 02:21:17,910
eventually he's gonna have to
quit. He's tired. You know, he

2312
02:21:17,910 --> 02:21:19,710
may have a different gig.
There's lots of you know,

2313
02:21:19,740 --> 02:21:24,150
sometimes these guys die. You
know, these spokes holes and not

2314
02:21:24,150 --> 02:21:28,440
it's not a great job. It can go
very wrong. But I think he's got

2315
02:21:28,440 --> 02:21:32,100
a fantastic opportunity. He's,
he's he has put in the hours, I

2316
02:21:32,100 --> 02:21:34,050
would give him a glowing
recommendation if I were

2317
02:21:34,050 --> 02:21:38,400
president. To the bringing in
the new guy, Josh, Josh Earnest.

2318
02:21:38,400 --> 02:21:42,660
And, and when you have the new
guy, you know, you always want

2319
02:21:42,660 --> 02:21:46,470
to try the new stuff out with
the new guy. Because if it

2320
02:21:46,470 --> 02:21:51,630
doesn't fly, then you say, it's
the new guy. Yeah, that's kind

2321
02:21:51,630 --> 02:21:54,000
of how it works in corporate
America. And I think that's the

2322
02:21:54,000 --> 02:21:54,300
state

2323
02:21:54,570 --> 02:21:57,180
would do the same thing when
they had a hearth. Yes. Yeah.

2324
02:21:57,180 --> 02:22:00,720
The one hand in this other
what's her name? The one that

2325
02:22:00,750 --> 02:22:01,770
does most of the work?

2326
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:07,440
Well, there's Marie is the is
the the Bandcamp. Girl and then

2327
02:22:07,440 --> 02:22:09,210
there's the red one with no
soul.

2328
02:22:10,410 --> 02:22:11,790
Yeah, that one? Yeah. I can't

2329
02:22:11,850 --> 02:22:13,500
remember her name now. But it'll
come to me.

2330
02:22:14,130 --> 02:22:16,770
But anyway, she said her and her
heart were like going at it.

2331
02:22:17,130 --> 02:22:20,370
Who's gonna get the job? And the
soul? This one got it?

2332
02:22:21,660 --> 02:22:24,840
She pops up from time to time
though. The Bandcamp. Anyway,

2333
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:30,840
so. So new meme. And I've been
tracking this and you laugh at

2334
02:22:30,840 --> 02:22:33,870
me? Because Oh, it's so funny.
You think I'm, I'm supporting

2335
02:22:33,870 --> 02:22:39,000
Tom Perkins, which I'm not. I do
not support. Parker. I do not

2336
02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:43,710
support Tom Perkins, which is
which? I do not support him. But

2337
02:22:43,710 --> 02:22:47,280
I find his observation
interesting that there is a

2338
02:22:47,400 --> 02:22:49,740
definite war on rich people.

2339
02:22:50,070 --> 02:22:53,130
Yeah, those poor, helpless, rich
people, there must be just like

2340
02:22:53,130 --> 02:22:57,090
the Jews in Germany. They are so
helpless. They can't do anything

2341
02:22:57,090 --> 02:22:58,560
about their plight.

2342
02:22:58,740 --> 02:23:02,160
So tell me what this is code
for. He said it four times in a

2343
02:23:02,160 --> 02:23:06,000
span of five minutes. I clipped
out each of the four times,

2344
02:23:06,060 --> 02:23:12,330
unfortunately, Republicans
refused to even consider the

2345
02:23:12,330 --> 02:23:15,420
possibility of raising some
revenue by closing some

2346
02:23:15,420 --> 02:23:17,820
loopholes that benefit only the
wealthy and the well connected

2347
02:23:17,850 --> 02:23:20,520
the president in a sign of his
willingness to compromise

2348
02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:24,540
included those entitlement
changes into the formal offer.

2349
02:23:24,900 --> 02:23:28,620
Now, did you hear it? No. Okay.
Well,

2350
02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:32,160
you said it four times. I heard
two things first before

2351
02:23:32,429 --> 02:23:35,459
that's No, I this is the first
time he said it. You didn't hear

2352
02:23:36,659 --> 02:23:39,479
from slips there? Well, here
comes the second time he says

2353
02:23:39,479 --> 02:23:39,659
it.

2354
02:23:39,720 --> 02:23:41,250
Okay. Okay. Then I'll get his
and middle

2355
02:23:41,250 --> 02:23:43,860
class families to make
sacrifices in pursuit of

2356
02:23:43,860 --> 02:23:47,730
reducing the deficit and not ask
the wealthy well connected to

2357
02:23:47,730 --> 02:23:50,640
make some sacrifices to that
it's just not fair. Are you

2358
02:23:50,640 --> 02:23:51,720
hearing that good policy,

2359
02:23:51,750 --> 02:23:53,190
wealthy, well connected one,

2360
02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:57,840
whereas if no, it's the wealthy,
and the well connected?

2361
02:23:57,930 --> 02:24:00,540
I think in the second clip, he
says wealthy well connected?

2362
02:24:01,320 --> 02:24:01,650
Well, let's

2363
02:24:01,650 --> 02:24:02,700
listen to the third time,

2364
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:06,240
and why they think that it's
good policymaking to ask senior

2365
02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:09,090
citizens and veterans and middle
class families to make

2366
02:24:09,090 --> 02:24:12,240
sacrifices, but say that
corporations and wealthy

2367
02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:14,940
individuals and well connected
individuals shouldn't have to

2368
02:24:14,940 --> 02:24:17,490
bear that responsibility and
making those sacrifices. What do

2369
02:24:17,490 --> 02:24:20,220
you think makes sense? So what
exactly it's not good policy?

2370
02:24:20,250 --> 02:24:24,270
You think he thinks that? Do you
think he thinks he's, he's

2371
02:24:24,600 --> 02:24:27,690
mixing it up a little bit? When
he says wealthy and well

2372
02:24:27,690 --> 02:24:30,690
connected, then wealthy, well
connected, wealthy, and you know

2373
02:24:30,690 --> 02:24:33,840
what I mean, you're talking
about well connected devices,

2374
02:24:33,840 --> 02:24:36,450
like obviously, was put in front
of him.

2375
02:24:36,780 --> 02:24:39,270
Let's listen to this for me.
Let's listen to the fourth one,

2376
02:24:39,270 --> 02:24:40,080
then we'll discuss.

2377
02:24:40,770 --> 02:24:43,890
If we're going to ask seniors
and others to make sacrifices by

2378
02:24:43,890 --> 02:24:46,320
changing entitlement programmes.
Then we're also going to ask

2379
02:24:46,320 --> 02:24:49,080
corporations and well connected
individuals to give up some of

2380
02:24:49,080 --> 02:24:49,860
their tax loopholes

2381
02:24:49,860 --> 02:24:53,190
so well connected, and so it's
the wealthy, the well connected,

2382
02:24:53,190 --> 02:24:58,230
well connected individuals the
well connected, what exactly is

2383
02:24:58,230 --> 02:25:01,320
when are you well connected
because Clearly you need to hate

2384
02:25:01,320 --> 02:25:06,690
those people. But what is what
is well connected? I would argue

2385
02:25:06,960 --> 02:25:10,350
they have so much money that we
have to like soak them. Well

2386
02:25:10,350 --> 02:25:12,000
connected doesn't mean you're
rich. Oh,

2387
02:25:12,029 --> 02:25:15,329
that's my point. There's the
wealthy and a separate group.

2388
02:25:15,329 --> 02:25:19,949
Now new is the well connected to
who are they going after with

2389
02:25:19,949 --> 02:25:23,819
well connected? Arguably, he's
well connected. He's in the

2390
02:25:23,819 --> 02:25:26,579
White House. Now he's totally
well connect to what does this

2391
02:25:26,579 --> 02:25:28,979
mean? What is where are they
going with this well connected

2392
02:25:28,979 --> 02:25:30,989
meme you watch. It's coming? No,

2393
02:25:31,499 --> 02:25:34,709
no watch. It's obviously already
in play. But who

2394
02:25:34,710 --> 02:25:37,200
are they? Who is that can be
anybody

2395
02:25:39,150 --> 02:25:42,120
know it could be anybody that
the joke of it doesn't mean that

2396
02:25:42,120 --> 02:25:43,050
they have any money,

2397
02:25:43,110 --> 02:25:48,450
I think. If you are if you're
less than three degrees

2398
02:25:48,480 --> 02:25:51,630
separated from Kevin Bacon, then
you're welcome. Which I am. By

2399
02:25:51,630 --> 02:25:53,880
the way, I'm only two degrees
I'm well connected.

2400
02:25:56,700 --> 02:25:58,800
If I go meet the guy, would I be
at one degree?

2401
02:25:59,130 --> 02:26:01,500
You'd be a first degree Yeah,
you'd be well connected.

2402
02:26:03,930 --> 02:26:10,530
I felt calm. Connected to find
well connected well connected to

2403
02:26:10,530 --> 02:26:14,160
free diksha highly influential,
important relatives and friends.

2404
02:26:14,730 --> 02:26:18,240
Well connected, unconventional
approach to building genuine,

2405
02:26:19,080 --> 02:26:21,960
something well connected
adjective.

2406
02:26:22,740 --> 02:26:24,930
You know how you also can get it
you know how you could be well

2407
02:26:24,930 --> 02:26:31,350
connected? Through a group like
I don't know, church, synagogue.

2408
02:26:31,560 --> 02:26:34,980
Now I know that when you if your
score is not well connected, or

2409
02:26:34,980 --> 02:26:37,470
I mean, they could be but I
don't think that defines them

2410
02:26:37,470 --> 02:26:37,770
depends

2411
02:26:37,770 --> 02:26:40,860
on which church but anyway, I'm
noticing this as a meme. And I

2412
02:26:40,860 --> 02:26:41,910
find it disturbing.

2413
02:26:42,689 --> 02:26:46,799
well connected is not something
you want to hear being brought

2414
02:26:46,799 --> 02:26:53,159
up in as a target. Because it's
fixed. Stay at home. Yeah.

2415
02:26:53,489 --> 02:26:56,009
Otherwise, you're going to be
seen as well connected.

2416
02:26:56,250 --> 02:26:59,280
Yeah. I find it troubling as

2417
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:01,710
well. Can a someone who is well
connected has important or

2418
02:27:01,710 --> 02:27:05,130
influential relatives or
friends. This is like a threat

2419
02:27:05,130 --> 02:27:05,910
to somebody.

2420
02:27:06,360 --> 02:27:09,270
Well, yeah, it's got to be a
threat to some group. I just

2421
02:27:09,270 --> 02:27:11,700
don't know. Are they talking
Republicans? Are they well

2422
02:27:11,700 --> 02:27:18,720
connected? Or is it is it if
you're in an NGO or a Super PAC?

2423
02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:27,060
Or did you actually look up the
wealthy and well connected?

2424
02:27:27,060 --> 02:27:29,430
Let's just see. Let's see if
it's what the Google comes

2425
02:27:29,430 --> 02:27:34,470
backwards. Oh, I hear it. Oh,
interesting. Here's a couple of

2426
02:27:34,500 --> 02:27:39,450
people already picking up on
this. Why not just that now it's

2427
02:27:39,450 --> 02:27:42,180
the well connected okay, why
does anyone have an answer?

2428
02:27:43,440 --> 02:27:46,110
This is from CNS News. I don't
know what that is. That's

2429
02:27:46,110 --> 02:27:49,020
probably some cyber cast news
service at some little guy.

2430
02:27:49,050 --> 02:27:49,470
Yeah. Well,

2431
02:27:49,470 --> 02:27:52,620
that's a that's a Republican
side. It looks like but what is

2432
02:27:52,620 --> 02:27:55,020
it what is wealthy and well
connected? I don't. I'm

2433
02:27:55,200 --> 02:27:58,200
New York City's wealthy and well
connected. Wait, I hate it when

2434
02:27:58,200 --> 02:28:00,540
they're the ones. What does it
say?

2435
02:28:00,600 --> 02:28:03,600
Well, I'm well connected. I'm
super well connected, but I'm

2436
02:28:03,600 --> 02:28:04,380
not wealthy.

2437
02:28:05,340 --> 02:28:12,150
No, no, not at all. New York
City's wealthy and well

2438
02:28:12,150 --> 02:28:14,580
connected this would be you and
this would be this is right to

2439
02:28:14,580 --> 02:28:18,510
set the headline nails you
connected hate it when they're

2440
02:28:18,510 --> 02:28:24,240
the ones feeling the class war.
Oh, Tom Perkins, please save me.

2441
02:28:26,040 --> 02:28:29,070
I'm right. You watch. We are
going to be throwing well

2442
02:28:29,070 --> 02:28:30,960
connected people to the lions.

2443
02:28:33,270 --> 02:28:38,070
You get a double hit with Tom
Perkins occupied for

2444
02:28:38,070 --> 02:28:46,050
accountability. All right. Well,
you've spotted something. That's

2445
02:28:46,050 --> 02:28:48,900
all. It says something we need
to keep an eye on and we'll see

2446
02:28:48,900 --> 02:28:49,620
where it goes.

2447
02:28:49,890 --> 02:28:53,340
All right, then I might as well
just play these because this is

2448
02:28:53,340 --> 02:28:56,640
our First Lady of the United
States of America. She is now

2449
02:28:56,670 --> 02:29:01,650
the spokes hole for all things
you'd expect to need. And she

2450
02:29:01,650 --> 02:29:05,760
goes on the Jimmy Kimmel Tonight
Show and and he or she is

2451
02:29:06,090 --> 02:29:10,890
promoting the Affordable Care
Act. And how else would you do

2452
02:29:10,890 --> 02:29:15,870
it but to condescend the you
need to do that you need to

2453
02:29:15,870 --> 02:29:17,550
condescend people in to join

2454
02:29:18,090 --> 02:29:20,280
to talk to you I want to talk to
you about the Affordable Care

2455
02:29:20,280 --> 02:29:22,200
Act and it's March. Is

2456
02:29:22,200 --> 02:29:24,900
there a deadline or end of
March? Absolutely, yes. And

2457
02:29:24,900 --> 02:29:28,140
why? Because a lot of young
people watch our show. Would you

2458
02:29:28,140 --> 02:29:30,570
like to tell me why would they
because people don't have money

2459
02:29:30,570 --> 02:29:30,990
to spend?

2460
02:29:31,170 --> 02:29:33,990
Well, thanks to the Affordable
Care Act, young people can stay

2461
02:29:33,990 --> 02:29:37,380
on their parent's insurance
until they're 26. But once they

2462
02:29:37,380 --> 02:29:40,680
hit 26 They're on their own and
a lot of young people think

2463
02:29:40,680 --> 02:29:44,040
they're invincible. But the
truth is, young people are

2464
02:29:44,040 --> 02:29:44,880
knuckleheads.

2465
02:29:45,120 --> 02:29:50,490
Dare you go that's perfect. The
people you actually need in your

2466
02:29:50,490 --> 02:29:54,600
system to make up for the old
people. You need to be

2467
02:29:54,600 --> 02:29:57,540
condescending and also you need
to kind of like skirt around

2468
02:29:57,540 --> 02:30:00,450
what you know because you know,
why are they not go Heads, you

2469
02:30:00,450 --> 02:30:01,170
know, why do you need

2470
02:30:01,170 --> 02:30:03,480
anything? That's it? They're
making a huge mistake here.

2471
02:30:03,480 --> 02:30:03,660
Yeah.

2472
02:30:03,690 --> 02:30:08,010
Well, listen, they know you have
to listen to the Fit last 15

2473
02:30:08,010 --> 02:30:10,800
seconds why they're knuckleheads
and then you can get into the

2474
02:30:10,800 --> 02:30:11,460
mistake. You know?

2475
02:30:12,360 --> 02:30:15,330
They're the ones who are cooking
for the first time and slice

2476
02:30:15,330 --> 02:30:19,080
their finger open. They're
dancing on the barstool. They're

2477
02:30:19,350 --> 02:30:21,300
young people. Yeah,

2478
02:30:21,300 --> 02:30:26,460
it's not like, you know, AIDS,
cancer, you know, anything like

2479
02:30:26,460 --> 02:30:28,830
that? No, no, it's just slice
your finger. That's why you

2480
02:30:28,830 --> 02:30:29,250
need.

2481
02:30:30,510 --> 02:30:33,600
The way to do it is to get the
media on board with the you

2482
02:30:33,600 --> 02:30:36,300
know, the same way they do with
the last flu season where all of

2483
02:30:36,300 --> 02:30:39,090
a sudden they're giving us a
death count on a daily basis,

2484
02:30:39,090 --> 02:30:42,240
which they could have done any
year with the same numbers. I

2485
02:30:42,240 --> 02:30:45,570
just get the media on board with
the hospital and find the kid

2486
02:30:45,570 --> 02:30:50,220
who fell off the barstool, cut
his finger off, or has cancer or

2487
02:30:50,220 --> 02:30:54,240
whatever, and go in there and
say what, I'm going broke man, I

2488
02:30:54,240 --> 02:30:57,060
didn't think this would happen
to me. I didn't think this would

2489
02:30:57,060 --> 02:30:59,760
happen to me. And then you get
in how in the public. And in

2490
02:30:59,760 --> 02:31:02,730
fact, if you want to, why does
the government do what they can

2491
02:31:02,730 --> 02:31:06,450
do best? Send some goons that
beat the crap find out who

2492
02:31:06,450 --> 02:31:10,890
doesn't have insurance and beat
the crap out of the hospitalised

2493
02:31:10,890 --> 02:31:14,820
him and put him on the air?
Yeah, no, it wouldn't happen to

2494
02:31:14,820 --> 02:31:19,830
me, man. I wish I'd go join the
health insurance programme. I

2495
02:31:19,830 --> 02:31:21,000
wouldn't be broke.

2496
02:31:21,570 --> 02:31:25,770
Now. Here it goes. Hi, I'm Adam
curry. I used to be a well

2497
02:31:25,770 --> 02:31:29,250
connected knucklehead until I
sliced my finger open cooking

2498
02:31:29,250 --> 02:31:33,600
for the first time. And what
will they be

2499
02:31:33,600 --> 02:31:36,870
cooking? Remember much but
probably like mac and cheese?

2500
02:31:36,870 --> 02:31:40,260
Yeah, that's one of my big
that's advanced mac and cheese

2501
02:31:40,260 --> 02:31:43,050
casserole. It's pretty simple.
It's more than two ingredients.

2502
02:31:43,890 --> 02:31:47,430
I'm in ramen noodle area. You
gotta love it when the First

2503
02:31:47,430 --> 02:31:50,220
Lady is out there promoting mac
and cheese and slicing your

2504
02:31:50,220 --> 02:31:51,060
fingers that

2505
02:31:51,210 --> 02:31:55,860
is that balancing is BS. eat
ramen noodles. Yeah. Oh, that's

2506
02:31:55,890 --> 02:31:57,240
that's great. And then just to

2507
02:31:57,240 --> 02:32:03,720
top it all off. There was a
segment where the EU segments so

2508
02:32:03,720 --> 02:32:07,020
I guess it's a Fallon Saturday
Live skit and the First Lady is

2509
02:32:07,020 --> 02:32:08,400
there and of course

2510
02:32:10,200 --> 02:32:14,550
chaps. Oh, yeah. You know,
instead of potato chips a

2511
02:32:14,550 --> 02:32:18,780
healthy alternative. Kale Chips.
There you go

2512
02:32:18,810 --> 02:32:22,320
promoting mac and cheese which
is a depression depression fill

2513
02:32:22,320 --> 02:32:25,800
in the poor man and lettuce.
Kale is the poor man's lettuce.

2514
02:32:25,800 --> 02:32:28,020
We'll get another depression
food that's been pushed into the

2515
02:32:28,020 --> 02:32:30,390
limelight because apparently
bugs won't even eat it.

2516
02:32:31,170 --> 02:32:34,710
And, hey, I got an email from
one of our producers John

2517
02:32:34,710 --> 02:32:39,330
Hamlin. And he said on Thursdays
no agenda show five nine or

2518
02:32:39,330 --> 02:32:41,940
three y'all read a note from a
reader who said she grew up

2519
02:32:41,940 --> 02:32:44,850
referring to kale is poor man's
cabbage. Oh, I thought it was

2520
02:32:45,060 --> 02:32:48,450
lettuce with cabbage, and
deconstructed the PR company and

2521
02:32:48,450 --> 02:32:51,540
rebranded it as a superfood to
jack the price up. I enjoyed

2522
02:32:51,540 --> 02:32:54,510
your previous deconstruction of
kale. And that story sounded all

2523
02:32:54,510 --> 02:32:57,270
too familiar. You see, my
maternal grandfather played

2524
02:32:57,270 --> 02:33:00,990
polo, and therefore hung around
with the kind of elites who can

2525
02:33:00,990 --> 02:33:04,650
afford to keep 20 Plus horses
employ three pro players and the

2526
02:33:04,650 --> 02:33:08,310
groom from South America travel
the seasons and oh yeah, not

2527
02:33:08,310 --> 02:33:11,520
work for a living. Grandpa lived
in West Palm Beach during the

2528
02:33:11,520 --> 02:33:14,100
winter polo season and would
sometimes fly my mother down to

2529
02:33:14,100 --> 02:33:18,510
visit him. He was during one of
these trips that mom met the

2530
02:33:18,510 --> 02:33:23,040
mushroom King. According to this
is a great note. According to

2531
02:33:23,040 --> 02:33:26,850
mom's reporting, the mushroom
King earned his nickname and his

2532
02:33:26,850 --> 02:33:30,450
riches by convincing people that
portabello mushroom was

2533
02:33:30,450 --> 02:33:34,680
something other than garbage.
Before he came along portobellos

2534
02:33:34,680 --> 02:33:38,070
were considered a trash mushroom
that grew like a weed on

2535
02:33:38,100 --> 02:33:42,780
alongside the quality fungi. At
the at that time, the good

2536
02:33:42,780 --> 02:33:46,440
shrooms were small, white and
delicate, while the portabella

2537
02:33:46,440 --> 02:33:50,400
was big, dark and floppy. As the
story goes, the mushroom King

2538
02:33:50,400 --> 02:33:53,700
managed to flip the script and
made a fortune in the process.

2539
02:33:54,960 --> 02:33:56,220
God that sounds

2540
02:33:56,310 --> 02:33:58,860
believable. Flipping a script
that's the way you make money in

2541
02:33:58,860 --> 02:33:59,490
this country.

2542
02:33:59,939 --> 02:34:06,389
What so what can we do to flip
the script? What what products

2543
02:34:06,389 --> 02:34:11,879
can we take? That is basically
garbage waste waste product.

2544
02:34:12,540 --> 02:34:15,750
While we're doing that kind of
with the news coverage? Garbage.

2545
02:34:15,780 --> 02:34:18,750
Well, that's true. That's true.
And we are flipping it into into

2546
02:34:20,070 --> 02:34:21,780
pristine analysis. Yeah, but

2547
02:34:21,780 --> 02:34:24,810
we're not getting rich in the
process on our job. We're not

2548
02:34:24,810 --> 02:34:26,310
getting rich in the process.

2549
02:34:27,060 --> 02:34:30,780
We're not getting rich, but it
is fun. And people it is also

2550
02:34:30,780 --> 02:34:33,000
enlightening for people to
realise this you know what a

2551
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:36,330
bunch of crap is out there.
That's fact I had this

2552
02:34:36,330 --> 02:34:39,150
interesting clip is not that
interesting. But this is the

2553
02:34:39,180 --> 02:34:42,180
Olympics and this is the way
they have to play this because

2554
02:34:42,180 --> 02:34:45,270
there's nothing really that
scandalous about these Olympics

2555
02:34:45,270 --> 02:34:49,290
except some some bad judging of
events, which is always going to

2556
02:34:49,290 --> 02:34:54,330
happen. But they had a look play
on the Nancy Kerrigan Tonya

2557
02:34:54,330 --> 02:34:56,190
Harding thing from I don't know
20 years

2558
02:34:56,190 --> 02:34:57,780
ago. Anybody remember this? Does

2559
02:34:57,780 --> 02:35:00,660
anybody know what are they if
you watch The Olympic Stadium

2560
02:35:00,660 --> 02:35:02,850
because they kept talking about
it. Do we need to like, you

2561
02:35:02,850 --> 02:35:05,580
know, history if you've if you,
if you forget your history,

2562
02:35:05,580 --> 02:35:09,570
you're going to have it
reminded, but you go forever

2563
02:35:09,570 --> 02:35:11,790
you're going to be have it
thrown in your face. There's a

2564
02:35:11,820 --> 02:35:14,670
bitter joke there. I'm sorry, I
blew it. Let me play this little

2565
02:35:14,670 --> 02:35:16,800
clip because it Jay brought up
an interesting point that

2566
02:35:17,160 --> 02:35:19,800
according to at least one of the
skaters who watched this

2567
02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:24,600
carnival that took place with
the media, the media frenzy, he

2568
02:35:24,600 --> 02:35:27,180
believed that was for him, it
was the death of the media,

2569
02:35:27,180 --> 02:35:30,060
which they said that was why why
bother with these people

2570
02:35:30,090 --> 02:35:34,050
tender a situation. You could
not miss this practice session.

2571
02:35:34,440 --> 02:35:38,610
Here they are together on the
eyes for the first time. There

2572
02:35:38,610 --> 02:35:42,390
are about three or 400 cameras,
that the practice it's a

2573
02:35:42,390 --> 02:35:47,970
practice. I wasn't afraid of
her. But I thought it would be a

2574
02:35:47,970 --> 02:35:49,110
zoom to put us

2575
02:35:49,110 --> 02:35:51,570
on the same ice. And that was
right.

2576
02:35:53,760 --> 02:35:58,290
Nancy Kerrigan wore that white
lacy dress that she was wearing,

2577
02:35:58,320 --> 02:36:02,640
the day she got attacked. Humour
is good, and it's fun. And I

2578
02:36:02,640 --> 02:36:08,130
thought, it's empowering. And
it's, Hey, I'm here,

2579
02:36:08,190 --> 02:36:09,780
I can do this. I'm back. I'm
ready.

2580
02:36:13,410 --> 02:36:18,600
I saw press jammed into this one
little area, I saw the

2581
02:36:18,600 --> 02:36:23,490
Washington Post, The People
Magazine, The New York Times the

2582
02:36:23,490 --> 02:36:27,030
National Enquirer, and you go
down the line, and they were all

2583
02:36:27,990 --> 02:36:32,790
equals. This may have changed
skating a little bit. But to me,

2584
02:36:32,790 --> 02:36:34,230
it changed the media forever.

2585
02:36:35,760 --> 02:36:39,270
All the clicking and flashing.
When I did my job that made me

2586
02:36:39,270 --> 02:36:41,250
fall and hurt myself.

2587
02:36:42,210 --> 02:36:45,030
Both of them on the ice, it's
inevitable that they're going to

2588
02:36:45,030 --> 02:36:48,540
pass each other. And when they
came like this, the click the

2589
02:36:48,540 --> 02:36:54,000
word of the cameras. I mean, it
sounded like a million

2590
02:36:54,000 --> 02:36:57,690
firecrackers going off. But that
was the money picture. This was

2591
02:36:57,690 --> 02:36:58,500
that big of a deal.

2592
02:37:00,210 --> 02:37:03,480
So what you're saying here is
It's so pathetic, they could not

2593
02:37:03,510 --> 02:37:07,050
jump drum up any controversy
that they had to bring this

2594
02:37:07,050 --> 02:37:07,530
back.

2595
02:37:07,770 --> 02:37:11,580
Yeah, but that but more
importantly to me was that

2596
02:37:11,610 --> 02:37:15,150
besides the noise that 300
cameras would make in the olden

2597
02:37:15,150 --> 02:37:18,570
days before digital, right, all
shooting at the same time,

2598
02:37:18,570 --> 02:37:21,180
because they're all a bunch of
robots taking the exact same

2599
02:37:21,180 --> 02:37:24,000
shots that normally I would
think a pool guy could do,

2600
02:37:24,000 --> 02:37:28,260
right? One guy? Yeah, do we need
300 photographers from every

2601
02:37:28,260 --> 02:37:31,020
media outlet, including the
National Enquirer and everybody

2602
02:37:31,020 --> 02:37:34,710
in between? I mean, it doesn't
make any sense and stupid. And

2603
02:37:34,710 --> 02:37:37,530
the guy who was saying that the
change for him to change media,

2604
02:37:37,530 --> 02:37:41,670
I think, which by the way,
predates, you know, the

2605
02:37:41,670 --> 02:37:45,840
realisation that this is all
crap really predates our show,

2606
02:37:45,870 --> 02:37:50,550
which started six, seven years
ago, by a decade at least or

2607
02:37:50,550 --> 02:37:55,560
more. It's just, it really means
it's just astonishing to me that

2608
02:37:56,250 --> 02:38:00,660
this hasn't been picked up to
any extreme like we do on our

2609
02:38:00,660 --> 02:38:04,470
show at all. I mean, I think the
last guys who used to pound the

2610
02:38:04,470 --> 02:38:08,940
media for being a bunch of
shills and jerks was if stone,

2611
02:38:09,180 --> 02:38:12,630
which was like doing a
newsletter in the 1960s. And he

2612
02:38:12,630 --> 02:38:16,350
died. Yeah. And even before
that, the cell does character

2613
02:38:16,350 --> 02:38:18,720
and it but those used to be in
the form of newsletters, but

2614
02:38:18,720 --> 02:38:22,290
there's no serious people to
seriously looking at what a

2615
02:38:22,290 --> 02:38:25,650
crock of crap that is being fed
on a 24 hour basis to the

2616
02:38:25,650 --> 02:38:27,210
public. There's nobody

2617
02:38:27,240 --> 02:38:30,120
except for us. I think we are
one of the few

2618
02:38:30,720 --> 02:38:33,120
I think somebody everyone's
gonna take a shot at it. But

2619
02:38:33,120 --> 02:38:36,270
there's, there's so poorly
equipped or poorly trained, or

2620
02:38:36,270 --> 02:38:38,460
they don't have enough
background, or they are they're

2621
02:38:38,460 --> 02:38:41,490
insincere, or they're still kind
of part of it. And they can't

2622
02:38:41,520 --> 02:38:43,470
really release themselves
completely. And

2623
02:38:43,529 --> 02:38:46,559
well, that's a no, no, no,
you've nailed it there. Because

2624
02:38:46,979 --> 02:38:50,549
they, most people, even when
they're critical are part of the

2625
02:38:50,549 --> 02:38:55,439
system. And somehow they they
you know, it's like, it's I

2626
02:38:55,439 --> 02:38:59,069
think it's mainly based around
ads, if you are selling seats,

2627
02:38:59,069 --> 02:39:01,469
yeah, if you're in any kind of
business where there is an

2628
02:39:01,469 --> 02:39:05,309
advertiser, then you can you can
go against the system, you just

2629
02:39:05,309 --> 02:39:08,969
can't even if your advertiser
receives an iodine or whatever,

2630
02:39:08,969 --> 02:39:14,459
you can't go against it. For
instance, I guarantee you this

2631
02:39:14,459 --> 02:39:17,339
will this it's already a bit of
a story, but I think this will

2632
02:39:18,359 --> 02:39:21,419
get some legs and I'm going to
debunk it for you right now.

2633
02:39:22,469 --> 02:39:28,619
Outer net.is Have you heard of
this? John? Outer net.is? Yeah,

2634
02:39:28,619 --> 02:39:28,769
no,

2635
02:39:28,770 --> 02:39:32,550
yeah, yeah, yeah, I looked into
this a little bit and I dropped

2636
02:39:32,550 --> 02:39:33,150
the ball, right.

2637
02:39:34,050 --> 02:39:39,570
So this is a Oh, another
nonprofit, which is funded by

2638
02:39:39,960 --> 02:39:43,320
some pretty big names here, the
media development investment

2639
02:39:43,320 --> 02:39:50,310
fund, MDI, f.org, who I might
add, give us nothing. But I will

2640
02:39:50,370 --> 02:39:54,240
give you a net a couple of names
here of the foundation for

2641
02:39:54,240 --> 02:39:58,140
democracy of media. The John D
And Catherine T. MacArthur

2642
02:39:58,140 --> 02:40:02,340
Foundation. Oh, the only EDR
network like the immediate our

2643
02:40:02,340 --> 02:40:06,930
network, peer drive my car, the
Open Society Foundation Soros,

2644
02:40:06,960 --> 02:40:11,520
Oxfam, Swedish International
Development Cooperation Agency,

2645
02:40:11,520 --> 02:40:16,200
they funded Tor, Swiss Agency
for Development. It's the it's

2646
02:40:16,200 --> 02:40:20,460
the Netherlands Ministry of
Foreign Affairs. It's the it is

2647
02:40:20,460 --> 02:40:25,230
the indifferent, they held
media, the usual suspects, but

2648
02:40:25,230 --> 02:40:29,940
they don't give us any money.
Now they are funding the

2649
02:40:29,940 --> 02:40:36,570
Outernet. And this is, this is
such a scam. So what they're

2650
02:40:36,600 --> 02:40:41,010
proclaiming to be able to do it
for the Outernet information for

2651
02:40:41,010 --> 02:40:44,730
the world from outer space,
unrestricted, globally

2652
02:40:44,730 --> 02:40:48,690
accessible broadcast data,
quality content from all over

2653
02:40:48,690 --> 02:40:55,950
the internet available to all of
humanity, for free. And then

2654
02:40:56,010 --> 02:40:58,680
there's subtext here, by
leveraging data casting

2655
02:40:58,680 --> 02:41:01,770
technology over a low cost
satellite constellation.

2656
02:41:02,490 --> 02:41:06,810
Outernet is able to bypass
censorship, ensure privacy, and

2657
02:41:06,810 --> 02:41:10,500
offer a universally accessible
information service at no cost

2658
02:41:10,500 --> 02:41:14,490
to global citizens. It's the
modern version of shortwave

2659
02:41:14,490 --> 02:41:21,270
radio or BitTorrent from space.
Okay, I have to say, bullshit,

2660
02:41:21,300 --> 02:41:28,140
this is so full of it, they are
claiming that they will be using

2661
02:41:28,140 --> 02:41:31,620
cube sats and I have this
whenever you get into BitTorrent

2662
02:41:31,650 --> 02:41:36,150
and shortwave radio, you're now
in my backyard. You aviation to

2663
02:41:36,690 --> 02:41:41,220
I have communicated with
satellites, cube satellites. And

2664
02:41:41,220 --> 02:41:44,670
it's absolutely possible. If you
have you, if you're really

2665
02:41:44,670 --> 02:41:48,030
lucky, you can even do it with
your little rubber duck antenna.

2666
02:41:48,030 --> 02:41:51,630
If you know exactly when the
satellite is overhead, you can

2667
02:41:51,630 --> 02:41:56,520
open up the repeater and you can
actually hear your message come

2668
02:41:56,520 --> 02:42:00,090
back from the satellite fun to
do put it you can do it with a

2669
02:42:00,090 --> 02:42:06,150
$50 China radio button, you
really need a directional

2670
02:42:06,150 --> 02:42:11,820
antenna Oh, and I'm sorry, it's
five watts. And the CubeSat is

2671
02:42:11,820 --> 02:42:15,810
not on all the time, it's only
waiting and it receives a signal

2672
02:42:15,810 --> 02:42:19,410
flips on the repeater broadcasts
it back. And these things go out

2673
02:42:19,410 --> 02:42:21,570
of business after a couple of
years because you know, the

2674
02:42:21,570 --> 02:42:25,350
batteries just doesn't recharge.
They're all silo. So they're

2675
02:42:25,350 --> 02:42:33,180
claiming that they and this by
the way is on 400 megahertz. Now

2676
02:42:33,210 --> 02:42:36,120
add, which is why you need five
watts, you really need more to

2677
02:42:36,120 --> 02:42:39,330
do it properly. Now they're
claiming that you will be able

2678
02:42:39,330 --> 02:42:43,980
to use your Wi Fi radio on your
smartphone, which will be any

2679
02:42:43,980 --> 02:42:49,590
smartphone you want. Which is
2.6 gigahertz 2.4 2.6 gigahertz.

2680
02:42:50,130 --> 02:42:54,450
And that you will be able to
receive the satellites just by

2681
02:42:54,450 --> 02:42:59,970
having your phone in your hand
outside. And this will not work

2682
02:42:59,970 --> 02:43:03,990
for a number of reasons. One is
you need a lot more gain on

2683
02:43:03,990 --> 02:43:06,810
these frequencies. Now Now
you're much higher in the

2684
02:43:06,810 --> 02:43:12,690
frequency band. Wi Fi is byte
its entire protocol is meant to

2685
02:43:12,690 --> 02:43:17,820
be short distances not not low
Earth orbiting satellite. And

2686
02:43:17,850 --> 02:43:20,910
and then these things are gonna
have to be broadcasting all the

2687
02:43:20,910 --> 02:43:25,950
time in order for you to pick up
the Wi Fi signal. This is bull

2688
02:43:25,950 --> 02:43:30,720
crap. It is not going to happen.
It is a lie. It does someone is

2689
02:43:30,720 --> 02:43:33,780
soaking these guys. This
emptyeyes Good.

2690
02:43:33,780 --> 02:43:35,670
We should be so lucky.

2691
02:43:37,800 --> 02:43:40,410
And they've got like pictures of
people holding up their

2692
02:43:40,410 --> 02:43:44,550
smartphones. Yeah, I saw that.
It's pathetic.

2693
02:43:44,939 --> 02:43:47,909
Well, this so shows how dumb the
public is. I mean, it doesn't

2694
02:43:47,909 --> 02:43:50,309
even make any sense. And then
the idea that it's going to go

2695
02:43:50,309 --> 02:43:53,039
anywhere. It's not and it's
sensor proof. Does anybody

2696
02:43:53,039 --> 02:43:56,789
remember the good old days when
the Communists were fighting us

2697
02:43:56,789 --> 02:43:59,549
in a Cold War? And we would have
Voice of America and they just

2698
02:43:59,549 --> 02:44:05,819
put up a bunch of scramblers?
Yeah. Yeah, you think one guy

2699
02:44:05,819 --> 02:44:09,239
with a couple 1000 Watt antenna
over here. And they would you

2700
02:44:09,239 --> 02:44:12,509
won't be able to pick the signal
up for 10 miles around this is

2701
02:44:12,509 --> 02:44:14,609
as censorship free.

2702
02:44:14,700 --> 02:44:17,730
No, this is as dumb as the
Google balloon project. Oh,

2703
02:44:17,730 --> 02:44:20,730
where's that? No one's gonna
hear about that.

2704
02:44:20,730 --> 02:44:24,240
And maybe this is just a hoax.
It's not a hoax. And this is a

2705
02:44:24,240 --> 02:44:24,900
hoax. No, the

2706
02:44:24,900 --> 02:44:28,800
guys are answering questions on
their on the on the I got into

2707
02:44:28,800 --> 02:44:33,810
this. I was like, Okay, what are
you doing? Isn't it I think what

2708
02:44:33,810 --> 02:44:38,400
they want to do is technically,
I think impossible. And besides

2709
02:44:38,400 --> 02:44:40,680
the fact that they're not
building an internet, they want

2710
02:44:40,680 --> 02:44:46,440
to do data casting like DVB or
digital radio. The way the

2711
02:44:46,440 --> 02:44:47,130
technology

2712
02:44:47,130 --> 02:44:50,880
presses the way they can send a
message to us all. The way that

2713
02:44:50,880 --> 02:44:51,450
technology

2714
02:44:51,450 --> 02:44:55,470
presses picking this up is wow,
this is so cool. This guy's got

2715
02:44:55,470 --> 02:44:58,080
the Outernet and your peer
drive. My car is frightening and

2716
02:44:58,080 --> 02:45:05,070
it's really smart. It's really
off Ah, free internet. By you

2717
02:45:05,070 --> 02:45:05,940
doing twit today, this

2718
02:45:05,940 --> 02:45:07,260
is a column for me. Thank you.

2719
02:45:07,289 --> 02:45:08,429
So are you doing twit today?

2720
02:45:08,879 --> 02:45:10,229
Yes, I am. As a matter of fact,

2721
02:45:10,829 --> 02:45:15,659
$4 says this, this one comes up
as a new story.

2722
02:45:17,609 --> 02:45:22,589
Well, it won't get very far
because I think even Leo knows

2723
02:45:22,589 --> 02:45:27,599
that that being a ham to nuts.
See, I've seen. So what am I?

2724
02:45:27,599 --> 02:45:31,319
What should I do? Should I just
clam up and see how South it

2725
02:45:31,319 --> 02:45:33,329
goes? And then jump in? No, no,
I

2726
02:45:33,330 --> 02:45:36,090
think you'd be quiet, who was on
the show was on the show with

2727
02:45:36,090 --> 02:45:36,270
you?

2728
02:45:37,470 --> 02:45:40,470
reported from USA Today and
somebody else, USA Today will be

2729
02:45:40,470 --> 02:45:43,440
all in perfect. So you just you
know, this guy's just the only

2730
02:45:43,440 --> 02:45:45,120
reason I like working with this
guy is because he's pretty

2731
02:45:45,120 --> 02:45:48,750
cynical. What's his name? I
can't remember. I feel bad about

2732
02:45:48,750 --> 02:45:52,200
that. I like him. I should know
his name. I just don't I don't

2733
02:45:52,200 --> 02:45:56,520
know his name. I just, it's
good. No, it's think I like to

2734
02:45:56,520 --> 02:45:57,510
go laser good guy,

2735
02:45:57,540 --> 02:46:00,660
you should say nothing. And then
when it comes up, you let

2736
02:46:00,660 --> 02:46:05,010
everyone talk about it. And you
say, that's going to be so cool.

2737
02:46:06,750 --> 02:46:10,110
That's what you got to say, Wow,
that's gonna be so cool.

2738
02:46:11,010 --> 02:46:15,240
We're gonna actually the Wi Fi
protocol you said it was this is

2739
02:46:15,240 --> 02:46:17,640
not only designed for short
distances. But if you've it

2740
02:46:17,640 --> 02:46:21,060
fully implement the protocol, if
it senses you've gone past a

2741
02:46:21,060 --> 02:46:25,380
certain distance, not retrieve
the data. Of course, you have to

2742
02:46:25,380 --> 02:46:28,440
actually disable that aspect of
it to get it to go more than a

2743
02:46:28,440 --> 02:46:28,920
mile.

2744
02:46:30,690 --> 02:46:32,130
So I have experience with these

2745
02:46:32,910 --> 02:46:35,340
1200 feet or something here go
on. Yeah. And that's how

2746
02:46:35,460 --> 02:46:38,190
I have experienced with the
SATs. And this is just it's off

2747
02:46:38,190 --> 02:46:41,490
the wall. It's really It's so
dumb. But maybe we can learn you

2748
02:46:41,490 --> 02:46:43,860
or maybe we can learn something
from this we create a satellite

2749
02:46:43,860 --> 02:46:46,380
or something we saved. I mean,
they're looking for hundreds of

2750
02:46:46,380 --> 02:46:49,470
1000s of dollars. Hundreds of
1000s of dollars are getting

2751
02:46:49,470 --> 02:46:53,850
from this outfit. You know?
Yeah.

2752
02:46:54,180 --> 02:46:56,670
Because there's a guys that with
hundreds of 1000s of dollars

2753
02:46:56,670 --> 02:46:58,080
burning a hole in their pocket.

2754
02:47:00,090 --> 02:47:03,090
How can we don't how come? Well,
we're clearly not well connected

2755
02:47:03,090 --> 02:47:04,080
our way that we

2756
02:47:04,080 --> 02:47:06,120
know it's a good thing. That
would be

2757
02:47:07,230 --> 02:47:10,530
that would be the final problem.
All right. Hey, I've promised

2758
02:47:10,530 --> 02:47:14,820
that I'd get us out on time. So
I'm doing that I'm getting

2759
02:47:14,820 --> 02:47:17,370
people saying hey, you guys are
taking on the shows

2760
02:47:17,370 --> 02:47:19,170
too long. Those too long.

2761
02:47:19,289 --> 02:47:24,329
shows too long. Okay, so of
course we will have an update on

2762
02:47:24,959 --> 02:47:30,419
Ukraine. If Well, it's very
possible that Russian troops

2763
02:47:30,419 --> 02:47:33,149
could storm Ukraine before
Thursday. We'll have to see.

2764
02:47:33,480 --> 02:47:34,380
I say no.

2765
02:47:35,039 --> 02:47:40,349
And Monday getting to have the
two teeth extracted so I'll be

2766
02:47:40,379 --> 02:47:45,269
cranky all week. What's Yeah.
Well, I'm this is my year. I'm

2767
02:47:45,269 --> 02:47:49,169
getting my all my teeth done
this year. My 15 front teeth

2768
02:47:49,169 --> 02:47:51,779
removed. No, no. Is it two
molars that I've got?

2769
02:47:52,320 --> 02:47:53,670
I just gonna get caps.

2770
02:47:54,630 --> 02:47:58,200
Crowns. Yeah. Well, I had to
save up the guy's been hound. He

2771
02:47:58,200 --> 02:48:00,450
said you teeth are gonna rot out
of your head. If you don't do

2772
02:48:00,450 --> 02:48:03,960
something. I gotta save my
money. So that's what I spend my

2773
02:48:03,960 --> 02:48:04,530
money on. I

2774
02:48:04,530 --> 02:48:06,780
must be ocean for Adam's teeth.

2775
02:48:06,810 --> 02:48:15,090
Yeah, right now I must be well
connected. And we'll meet each

2776
02:48:15,120 --> 02:48:18,180
other back here on Thursday.
Looking forward to that here in

2777
02:48:18,180 --> 02:48:21,180
FEMA Region six in the morning,
everybody. My name is Adam

2778
02:48:21,180 --> 02:48:21,600
curry.

2779
02:48:21,960 --> 02:48:25,230
And from Northern Silicon
Valley, where I where the

2780
02:48:25,230 --> 02:48:27,930
weather is, by the way is very
nice. We're in a drought and

2781
02:48:27,930 --> 02:48:30,300
we're going to cost this big
money. I'm John C. Dvorak.

2782
02:48:31,680 --> 02:48:32,550
On that note,

2783
02:48:32,580 --> 02:48:36,330
we'll see you on Thursday. Right
here on no agenda.

2784
02:48:39,840 --> 02:48:43,740
Simple red.org/n A