1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,010 And it's lame. It's just lame. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,970 Sterling. December 26 2013. Time for your getting donation media 3 00:00:08,970 --> 00:00:16,170 assassination episode 577. This is no agenda on the case when 4 00:00:16,170 --> 00:00:19,050 the mainstream isn't from funeral region six traverse high 5 00:00:19,050 --> 00:00:21,750 tide out Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam 6 00:00:21,750 --> 00:00:22,230 curry, 7 00:00:22,499 --> 00:00:25,649 and from Northern northern northern somewhat Northwestern 8 00:00:25,649 --> 00:00:27,389 Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:29,700 Buzzkill. 10 00:00:32,549 --> 00:00:35,069 Yeah, we've you know, I've gotten really spoiled listening 11 00:00:35,069 --> 00:00:38,729 to that lovely connection you have in San Francisco. 12 00:00:39,090 --> 00:00:40,350 Sonic dotnet. 13 00:00:40,919 --> 00:00:43,499 Yeah. This is not Sonic dotnet? 14 00:00:43,889 --> 00:00:47,489 No, this is fibre optic. Really good. 15 00:00:48,510 --> 00:00:51,120 This is this Google fibre. Is this what we can look forward 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:51,420 to? 17 00:00:51,780 --> 00:00:55,440 Is Verizon. Currently Verizon fibre. Oh, that's horrible. 18 00:00:56,190 --> 00:00:59,970 Yeah, well, I'm that's I mean, so is Comcast. 19 00:01:00,150 --> 00:01:02,280 You sure it's not this machine? This is your windows eight 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:02,760 machine. That's 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,390 a brand new machine. Did it sounds good when I talked to the 22 00:01:06,390 --> 00:01:07,830 Skype call testing service? 23 00:01:09,150 --> 00:01:12,120 Yeah, but you know, the Skype call Testing Service lady is 24 00:01:12,150 --> 00:01:15,060 it's probably in the Skype itself. It's probably not even 25 00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:18,720 some service anywhere. It's just a little routine that fires up 26 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,270 funny idea, but it's called someone. 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,410 I don't know what it does. Yeah. Skype used to be interesting 28 00:01:25,410 --> 00:01:28,320 where it was that kind of peer to peer thing. I think Microsoft 29 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:30,600 gotten got rid of that. It's probably gonna 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,630 tell you this much. This is a Windows eight machine and Skype 31 00:01:33,630 --> 00:01:37,620 on this thing is a joke. Really? Yeah, because you'd have the 32 00:01:37,620 --> 00:01:40,680 entire it's only got a 27 inch monitor, I got two of them in 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,760 front of me. And you load Skype, it takes up the whole monitor. 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,740 And so you have as a giant blue screen with a giant icon and you 35 00:01:49,740 --> 00:01:53,520 don't even put a image up. So it's a giant, useless icon. It 36 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,090 doesn't even say anything. And then it says Watchtower studio 37 00:01:57,090 --> 00:02:00,840 in the upper left hand corner. 90% of the real estate is just 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:01,620 blank. 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,900 You can't you can't minimise it or no, no. 40 00:02:07,110 --> 00:02:08,280 It's full screen apps. 41 00:02:08,310 --> 00:02:14,130 We went on. What was it? Was it to Tuesday. This is girls are 42 00:02:14,130 --> 00:02:18,570 here we went we went shopping and we went to a place here 43 00:02:18,570 --> 00:02:23,460 called the domain. Which Have you ever been to LA the grove? 44 00:02:25,020 --> 00:02:26,820 You mean, I don't know that I have. Okay. 45 00:02:27,150 --> 00:02:31,710 So it's it's really it's kind of a weird sick experience this 46 00:02:31,710 --> 00:02:35,520 place. Because it's essentially a whole bunch of shops set out 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,570 in a in kind of a Disney like setting in a way with little 48 00:02:39,570 --> 00:02:44,730 streets. And it's all cute and little, you know, little street 49 00:02:44,730 --> 00:02:49,500 lamps and everything is just in the rocks that play music. But 50 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:52,890 people actually there's more condos and houses here than 51 00:02:52,890 --> 00:02:55,980 shops. So people actually live in this compound, which is 52 00:02:55,980 --> 00:03:00,360 outside of town. And it's just condos and all of them are the 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,790 same as shops and restaurants. And so you pretty much don't 54 00:03:05,790 --> 00:03:09,630 have to do anything. You there's a school for kids. You live in 55 00:03:09,630 --> 00:03:11,880 this Stepford Wives type place and it's kind of 56 00:03:11,910 --> 00:03:13,980 creepy, but of course called The Grove. 57 00:03:14,489 --> 00:03:17,489 No, that's that's the the Los Angeles version. This is called 58 00:03:17,489 --> 00:03:18,209 the domain. 59 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:23,400 And it's in Boston. Yes. Right outside of the town. Well, 60 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,870 they've ever been a celebration. 61 00:03:25,079 --> 00:03:29,039 Well, it's not quite like Disney celebration, but it borders on 62 00:03:29,039 --> 00:03:32,609 that vibe for sure. Anyway, this is where they have an Apple 63 00:03:32,609 --> 00:03:35,549 Store and so they have other you know, h&m is there's all kinds 64 00:03:35,549 --> 00:03:38,069 of the stores that you can't really get inside Austin are 65 00:03:38,069 --> 00:03:41,399 there and they had a Windows Store which is now opened up 66 00:03:42,059 --> 00:03:45,839 Microsoft Store You mean he will I call it the Windows Store? And 67 00:03:45,839 --> 00:03:47,129 it is oh stop a 68 00:03:47,130 --> 00:03:50,310 second. Tell me what's the name of this place? Again? The domain 69 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,170 the domain Okay, go on now. 70 00:03:53,970 --> 00:03:58,320 And so it's maybe one street away from the Apple Store. And 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,110 it's it's completely the same idea. I don't know if you've 72 00:04:01,110 --> 00:04:02,520 probably seen the stores I haven't seen 73 00:04:02,550 --> 00:04:05,550 I actually wanted to one that took photos and reviewed it and 74 00:04:05,550 --> 00:04:06,630 the whole thing, right? 75 00:04:06,750 --> 00:04:09,960 And so it's exactly the same except that people aren't really 76 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,490 dressed in their in kind of like the all the the uniform hipster 77 00:04:14,490 --> 00:04:16,530 thing. So at the Apple store, they usually in blue. Now 78 00:04:16,530 --> 00:04:20,010 they're all in red for Christmas. So they they kind of 79 00:04:20,010 --> 00:04:23,550 have a hodgepodge. No, no set uniform. But the whole idea is 80 00:04:23,550 --> 00:04:27,930 the same with the kind of contemporary wood tables that 81 00:04:27,930 --> 00:04:31,290 everything is displayed on you move in and of course it's 15 82 00:04:31,290 --> 00:04:33,960 people Hey, how you guys doing? You need help? Hey, how you 83 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,110 doing? Hey, help. No, no, we're just looking. So we played a 84 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:39,840 ride not playing around with any of these Windows machines and 85 00:04:39,900 --> 00:04:43,950 these laptops with touchscreens, any of the tablets, nothing, not 86 00:04:43,950 --> 00:04:48,000 even Windows Phone and I have to say the responsiveness of these 87 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,400 devices just just playing with it's fast. And the phones and 88 00:04:54,780 --> 00:04:57,930 the tablets need this and it's all I guess that's all kind of 89 00:04:57,930 --> 00:05:00,810 the windows eight thing is fast. John's real you touch something 90 00:05:00,810 --> 00:05:05,190 booms like there. So yeah, it's it's very responsive feels very 91 00:05:05,190 --> 00:05:06,480 robust. I have to say, 92 00:05:07,410 --> 00:05:13,680 Okay. Do you have a full screen Skype app? Yeah. And you can 93 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:16,650 manage that it takes up the whole screen and it just has 94 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:20,430 just your name. It's unbelievably stupid. In fact, 95 00:05:20,430 --> 00:05:21,030 the 96 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,420 Now is this. Do you ever touch screen to go with this? Because 97 00:05:24,420 --> 00:05:26,460 I think that's the that's the cool thing is the touch would 98 00:05:26,460 --> 00:05:29,160 be cool. It's just a big, empty screen with nothing on it. What 99 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,390 we're gonna touch, 100 00:05:31,260 --> 00:05:33,540 touch my name, touch my monkey 101 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:39,990 to defining the urban Austin lifestyle for the next 100 102 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:44,610 years, see how creepy it is? And then get pictures of people. 103 00:05:44,670 --> 00:05:48,810 Yeah, thanks to incomparable cuisine, diverse local artists 104 00:05:48,810 --> 00:05:53,010 and eclectic shopping. Austin is known as one of the most unique 105 00:05:53,010 --> 00:05:57,360 destinations in the country. It's the domain is bringing the 106 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:03,000 best of Austin to a single urban location. It's phases one and 107 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,970 two of the domain are now open. 108 00:06:07,290 --> 00:06:14,100 It's so creepy. Phase one is open. Enjoy your time. Enjoy 109 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:18,630 your stay enjoy your life. Yeah, that's not really for us. 110 00:06:19,410 --> 00:06:23,430 Alright, so yeah, no, I get it. I saw the big the big screen 111 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:27,390 filling thing. I don't know. Why is it so stupid? And this? I 112 00:06:27,390 --> 00:06:29,070 don't know. What do you 113 00:06:29,070 --> 00:06:32,820 mean? Why is it so stupid you think is worth wild? Here's 114 00:06:32,820 --> 00:06:36,630 another thing you want to look, look at your contacts in Skype 115 00:06:36,630 --> 00:06:41,160 with this big full screen. So huge icons are like one inch by 116 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,140 one inch. And again, you only get a few of them on the 117 00:06:43,140 --> 00:06:47,310 screens. We had to constantly to get the two W's Okay, I got hit 118 00:06:47,310 --> 00:06:49,650 and hit it and hit it and hit it and hit it and hit it to 119 00:06:49,650 --> 00:06:53,490 hit so you can't have multiple windows open at the same time on 120 00:06:53,490 --> 00:06:54,960 one screen. Is that what you're saying? 121 00:06:55,890 --> 00:06:59,400 Well, apparently with 8.1 you can have a couple of these full 122 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,750 screen apps. Half the screen. It's still stupid. I want to be 123 00:07:03,750 --> 00:07:09,120 able to resize. Okay, I see the problem my wife seems she said 124 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,000 you know that I thought she was gonna hate Windows eight. So she 125 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,680 said, You know, it's not that bad. We asked 126 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,570 him. This is what I'm thinking. This is the this is the dumbing 127 00:07:18,570 --> 00:07:19,920 down of the populace. 128 00:07:20,010 --> 00:07:22,380 Well, there's definitely a dumbing down aspect. But she did 129 00:07:22,380 --> 00:07:25,590 it because you know, this is done by this woman who did the 130 00:07:25,590 --> 00:07:28,740 ribbon interface and she got promoted. She does a woman that 131 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:33,300 is behind this design, of course. And my wife says, Ah, 132 00:07:33,570 --> 00:07:36,900 she says that makes no that makes nothing but sense to me. 133 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:38,340 It's vagina logic. 134 00:07:39,450 --> 00:07:43,260 Okay, there's your show title right there. Let me just write 135 00:07:43,260 --> 00:07:47,220 that down. Yeah, I that makes sense to me. 136 00:07:48,300 --> 00:07:51,570 And I said, Yeah, I guess where I would I've 137 00:07:51,570 --> 00:07:56,850 gone back in time I have 123456 I have eight terminal windows 138 00:07:56,850 --> 00:08:01,290 open. All running something very specific and all very closely 139 00:08:01,290 --> 00:08:05,280 located and really handy and easy to give me information. It 140 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,360 just doesn't have pretty big boxes to to click on. 141 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,690 Big boxes are idiotic Yeah, this Windows eight really this is the 142 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,040 downfall of that company. The gentle logic or no vagina logic. 143 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:20,700 I don't care. 144 00:08:21,630 --> 00:08:26,280 They're all going to come down eventually. We had So how was 145 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,630 your Christmas was good? Yeah, I this is the one of the first 146 00:08:30,630 --> 00:08:33,840 years where we're doing the show after Christmas. Typically. I 147 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,420 think the past couple of years Christmas has fallen on show 148 00:08:36,420 --> 00:08:40,500 day, either a Sunday or a Thursday. And I found this much 149 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:46,410 harder. Why? Only because in then you can kind of be prepping 150 00:08:46,410 --> 00:08:49,500 you're doing everything and then on Christmas morning we do the 151 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:51,570 show and then we have the rest of the day off and this kind of 152 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:56,580 thing. You know, last week we had our you know, our family 153 00:08:56,580 --> 00:08:59,460 Christmas and we're hanging out and we're having fun we're 154 00:08:59,460 --> 00:09:03,510 eating we're drinking I'm like, Oh man, I gotta prep for the 155 00:09:03,510 --> 00:09:06,300 show. It was hard. 156 00:09:06,690 --> 00:09:09,450 It was I just did it in the morning. In the morning. Yeah, 157 00:09:09,479 --> 00:09:14,069 well I have I got a lot of stuff I got to do. So I took some time 158 00:09:14,069 --> 00:09:18,359 around 10 o'clock last night I started and already of course 159 00:09:18,359 --> 00:09:21,059 you know I have the entire system already filling up with 160 00:09:21,089 --> 00:09:24,029 with information and things that are happening and some 161 00:09:24,029 --> 00:09:28,139 interesting clips this something weird kind of happened with the 162 00:09:28,139 --> 00:09:31,769 Snowden messaging which is interesting to say the least but 163 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:36,689 could could turn into something bigger this Bart is it Bart 164 00:09:36,689 --> 00:09:41,549 Gellman Is that his name? Well, I think that name yeah, 165 00:09:41,610 --> 00:09:43,500 I've got I know Bart Gellman. Yeah. 166 00:09:43,830 --> 00:09:46,560 He did an interview for The Washington Post with Edward 167 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:47,220 Snowden. 168 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,900 All right, that thing Yeah. Yeah. And, and what I when 169 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:55,470 Snowden says yeah, kind of one already Mission accomplished, 170 00:09:55,620 --> 00:10:02,250 which is, is not good for Pierre and Laura and Glenn. This is 171 00:10:02,250 --> 00:10:05,550 gonna ruin their whole their whole their whole company their 172 00:10:05,550 --> 00:10:09,060 whole business. Snowden said no, it's over. It's done with we 173 00:10:09,060 --> 00:10:12,810 don't have to do anymore. But I think there's a rift some of 174 00:10:12,810 --> 00:10:15,000 that something Something changed something Yeah, 175 00:10:15,089 --> 00:10:19,199 they got 250 million and he got bought by kind of a bowl of beet 176 00:10:19,199 --> 00:10:19,589 soup. 177 00:10:20,850 --> 00:10:26,790 borscht? borscht a enjoy that borscht dude. Yeah, exactly. 178 00:10:27,660 --> 00:10:31,650 Everybody was out in full force Susan Rice. I hadn't seen her do 179 00:10:31,650 --> 00:10:38,550 an interview ever since her Benghazi round on the Sunday 180 00:10:38,550 --> 00:10:44,130 shows. And everyone's talking the same thing. So we had the 181 00:10:44,130 --> 00:10:47,910 question, for some reason, the mainstream media and we can 182 00:10:47,940 --> 00:10:50,970 probably figure out the agenda behind this have decided to 183 00:10:50,970 --> 00:10:55,800 focus on the Edward Snowden, Amnesty programme, which 184 00:10:56,220 --> 00:11:00,870 everyone's saying no, no, we can't have it. One of the junior 185 00:11:00,870 --> 00:11:03,960 guys at the CIA said, Well, yeah, I think that's something 186 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,290 we could talk about. And then his boss said, No, we can't have 187 00:11:07,290 --> 00:11:09,900 that. And then Susan Rice is all cagey. Would you 188 00:11:09,900 --> 00:11:14,400 Would the President consider granting him amnesty in exchange 189 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,480 for him never releasing any more documents. But mostly, we don't 190 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,210 think that Snowden deserves amnesty. We believe he should 191 00:11:21,210 --> 00:11:24,000 come back, he should be sent back. And he should have his day 192 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,390 in court. But if if what he's released so far, has been so 193 00:11:27,390 --> 00:11:31,500 damaging, and he has a million and a half more documents. How 194 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:35,250 important is it that he not released those? And what would 195 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:39,930 we offer him? Lesley? I, you know, I'm not gonna get into a 196 00:11:39,930 --> 00:11:44,340 negotiation with you on camera about something that on camera 197 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:51,420 position is that he ought to come back and face justice. Has 198 00:11:51,420 --> 00:11:56,910 he in either directly indirectly in any way proposed such an 199 00:11:56,910 --> 00:11:58,500 arrangement? Not that I'm aware. 200 00:11:59,069 --> 00:12:03,689 Now, this was an interesting interview with Susan Rice, who 201 00:12:03,689 --> 00:12:06,929 is now the she was the United Nation, the ambassador to the 202 00:12:06,929 --> 00:12:11,279 United Nations. Now she is the Director of National the 203 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:13,619 National Security Director, I think is that her official 204 00:12:13,619 --> 00:12:14,039 title? 205 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,550 Something like that as his title she shouldn't have she's 206 00:12:17,580 --> 00:12:21,780 she's even sitting in Henry Kissinger's old office, or at 207 00:12:21,780 --> 00:12:24,120 least that was the way it was, of course, other people been in 208 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,460 that office, but it's the way she portrayed it to want to make 209 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:29,040 sure everyone knew that she was in in handle. She did. Yeah, 210 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,490 that would be her. Yeah, a couple of things. I noticed one, 211 00:12:32,730 --> 00:12:35,760 in this interview, she does seem a lot more relaxed than she used 212 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:41,190 to be. And this was kind of a profile piece. Wow, you're in 213 00:12:41,190 --> 00:12:45,510 the mood shift from time to time, she would smile which hide 214 00:12:45,510 --> 00:12:49,380 you don't see Susan Rice smile a lot. She has a creepy smile. No, 215 00:12:49,380 --> 00:12:52,260 I thought she actually has quite an endearing smile. Well, it 216 00:12:52,260 --> 00:12:55,470 looks creepy on the Wikipedia. Well, when she was smiling in 217 00:12:55,470 --> 00:12:59,550 this interview. And it was it's in such contrast to the way she 218 00:12:59,580 --> 00:13:04,740 normally looks. You know, that really depends on you. And 219 00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:09,060 that's your actual voice. By the way. It's such contrast, she 220 00:13:09,060 --> 00:13:13,560 kind of looks a little almost cute, really. And of course, she 221 00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:17,220 had to tow the party line, which I think was just like the 222 00:13:17,220 --> 00:13:21,210 Benghazi. This was not an act of terrorism. This will come back 223 00:13:21,210 --> 00:13:22,260 to bite her as well. 224 00:13:22,290 --> 00:13:26,400 Officials in the intelligence community have actually been 225 00:13:26,430 --> 00:13:31,500 untruthful, both to the American public and hearings in Congress 226 00:13:31,860 --> 00:13:35,370 and to the FISA court, there have been cases where they have 227 00:13:35,850 --> 00:13:40,080 inadvertently made false representations and 228 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,920 inadvertently made false reputed risk misrepresentations about 229 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,930 taking the cookies from the cookie jar. I'm so sorry. How 230 00:13:53,220 --> 00:13:56,040 she gets away with it, by the way was saying this. Leslie, 231 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,190 she gets away with it amongst who are most of the person doing 232 00:13:59,190 --> 00:13:59,700 the interview, 233 00:14:00,030 --> 00:14:03,390 of course with Lesley Stahl who did this interview just says oh, 234 00:14:03,390 --> 00:14:06,780 you know, just inadvertently misrepresented that didn't mean 235 00:14:06,780 --> 00:14:07,980 to misrepresent anything, 236 00:14:08,340 --> 00:14:13,290 have actually been untruthful, both to the American public and 237 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,340 hearings in Congress and to the FISA court, there have been 238 00:14:17,340 --> 00:14:22,140 cases where they have inadvertently made false 239 00:14:22,140 --> 00:14:24,960 representations and they themselves have discovered it 240 00:14:25,260 --> 00:14:32,910 and corrected it. When you have so many phone records being held 241 00:14:34,110 --> 00:14:38,700 emails, heads of states phone conversations being listened 242 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:43,140 into has it been worth our allies being upset has it been 243 00:14:43,140 --> 00:14:45,390 worth all the tech companies being upset? 244 00:14:45,930 --> 00:14:51,000 This this this mean? The tech companies are upset I heard this 245 00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:53,700 on I didn't pull the clip should have pulled the clip from this. 246 00:14:54,060 --> 00:14:59,280 I was listening to to This Week in tech. And at a certain point 247 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,680 I'm not quite sure if it was Leo, Senator are one of the 248 00:15:01,710 --> 00:15:07,020 panellists that this is now all of a sudden, I mean, the tech 249 00:15:07,020 --> 00:15:10,440 companies are all upset about what they've been forced to do. 250 00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:13,860 And they're real. And they went to the President and complained 251 00:15:13,860 --> 00:15:18,000 and said you've got to stop it. How do these guys get a free 252 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,400 pass yet again? The tech 253 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,850 we saw the we saw them sitting around yucking it up with the 254 00:15:23,850 --> 00:15:27,360 presidency, and it was I didn't see anyone even remotely upset. 255 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:27,630 Oh, they're 256 00:15:27,630 --> 00:15:31,800 not. But this is now the become the meme. Because God forbid the 257 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,580 news media say anything negative about oh, I don't know, Apple or 258 00:15:35,580 --> 00:15:38,310 Microsoft or anyone who advertises big 259 00:15:38,310 --> 00:15:40,830 any of the advertisers. They're all advertisers. Yeah, yeah, 260 00:15:40,830 --> 00:15:41,790 it's and 261 00:15:41,790 --> 00:15:44,760 it's funny, because as I'm thinking about this, I'm 262 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:50,490 thinking, When is the last time we saw a story, a new story, any 263 00:15:50,490 --> 00:15:56,730 story positive or negative? About GoDaddy, calm Carbonite, 264 00:15:56,970 --> 00:16:02,610 audible Berkey, water filters, and any story, positive or 265 00:16:02,610 --> 00:16:06,690 negative. And Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, really, I 266 00:16:06,690 --> 00:16:11,970 mean, a serious story about them. Now. It's all just press 267 00:16:11,970 --> 00:16:18,660 releases. And when you watch any programme, or you're listening 268 00:16:18,660 --> 00:16:23,370 to a programme, or even if you read about it, you people go 269 00:16:23,370 --> 00:16:27,000 into these, you know, the native advertising, the advertorial, 270 00:16:27,510 --> 00:16:30,240 whatever the pitch is when you're drobo is another one of 271 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,810 these companies. And for a while there, even Ford, certainly in 272 00:16:33,810 --> 00:16:36,450 the podcast realm, everyone was doing something for Ford because 273 00:16:36,450 --> 00:16:40,200 they had the money, but you never see even after their, 274 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:43,920 their their 2013 budget was spent. There's never any 275 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,730 reporting on these companies. They GoDaddy is a huge 276 00:16:47,730 --> 00:16:51,480 multibillion dollar company that fucks its customers over all the 277 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,910 time. But it's never reported on. I don't think people realise 278 00:16:56,910 --> 00:17:00,390 how the how big advertising budgets what they really do for 279 00:17:00,390 --> 00:17:03,360 your, for your PR, it's really the way to go. 280 00:17:04,530 --> 00:17:07,410 You name it is you they were I was running a company. That's 281 00:17:07,410 --> 00:17:08,670 what I do. Right. But 282 00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:12,360 I guess I hadn't really stood still on thought about or 283 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:15,780 thought about that for a while. Now, there are so many companies 284 00:17:15,780 --> 00:17:19,380 that you just never hear an article about ever. And then I 285 00:17:19,380 --> 00:17:24,060 hear all of these pundits talking about? Well, there's no 286 00:17:24,060 --> 00:17:29,460 news this time of year. What? Oh, you mean no press releases. 287 00:17:29,460 --> 00:17:32,370 Yeah. The PR departments, they're all closed down. So 288 00:17:32,370 --> 00:17:34,800 there's no news, which is why you get all these 289 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,400 retrospectives. Everyone's doing their best of 2013. Because 290 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,760 there's no news. Right, John? There's no news. 291 00:17:41,850 --> 00:17:45,660 There's never heard of any news. In fact, when I opened up Bing 292 00:17:45,660 --> 00:17:51,600 today, yes. And all there was was just a joke. Not only was 293 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,970 there nothing, there was, here's typical story, actresses without 294 00:17:56,970 --> 00:17:57,720 their makeup. 295 00:17:59,430 --> 00:18:01,380 This is the top of the big news 296 00:18:01,650 --> 00:18:04,500 is the kind of Bing news and we go to Bing for a second. Let 297 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:08,010 me see what Google has is news because there's news but Google 298 00:18:08,010 --> 00:18:10,770 has their news is just the old one. Let me see what they have. 299 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,390 Let me see what their what their what their lead is. This is the 300 00:18:15,390 --> 00:18:18,300 worst Congress ever. Okay, that's the top of the Google 301 00:18:18,300 --> 00:18:22,020 News. UPS FedEx scrambled to deliver delayed Christmas 302 00:18:22,020 --> 00:18:26,400 packages. That's news. Wow. White House extends insurance 303 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:31,230 enrollment deadline for second time. It Miley Cyrus adore you 304 00:18:31,230 --> 00:18:37,980 video leaked. Oh, boy, the leaks. So anyway, so just once, 305 00:18:37,980 --> 00:18:41,700 you know, when when I'm a little disgusted, that this meme is now 306 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:45,240 cropped, in, that the tech companies are all upset? No, no, 307 00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:49,230 they're complicit. They have entire departments whose job it 308 00:18:49,230 --> 00:18:53,040 is, is to hand off information to the government, which has 309 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:58,110 been deemed legal under the did or not to breach the Fourth 310 00:18:58,110 --> 00:18:59,820 Amendment by the Supreme Court. 311 00:19:00,149 --> 00:19:05,099 Well, you know, I think I have an I have a theory on this. When 312 00:19:05,099 --> 00:19:08,249 this whole thing broke, the tech companies were putting too, 313 00:19:09,059 --> 00:19:11,549 between a rock and a hard place because they were mentioned in 314 00:19:11,549 --> 00:19:15,149 that prison slide. One after the other when they when they 315 00:19:15,149 --> 00:19:18,629 knuckled under and became government agents, right. The 316 00:19:18,629 --> 00:19:22,109 rest of the time has been spent covering this up in any way 317 00:19:22,109 --> 00:19:25,349 shape or form because that's was a huge embarrassment. Yes. So 318 00:19:25,349 --> 00:19:29,039 what do we do? Because now are we losing business overseas and 319 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:32,969 they are losing business overseas? hand over fist? Yeah, 320 00:19:32,999 --> 00:19:37,619 exactly. And they are trying to do anything they can. And 321 00:19:37,619 --> 00:19:40,169 they've they're the ones who started to me. Oh, we're upset 322 00:19:40,169 --> 00:19:42,239 by this. They're the ones who signed on 323 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,050 to it. Yeah, that's that's that's exactly the way to look 324 00:19:46,050 --> 00:19:46,200 at 325 00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:48,870 this is Google wash. Yeah. Now 326 00:19:48,899 --> 00:19:54,059 you're exactly right. And and I even was, I can't remember where 327 00:19:54,059 --> 00:19:56,219 I saw this or read it. It doesn't matter because the meme 328 00:19:56,219 --> 00:19:58,799 is out there. Is that the report? No. This was also on 329 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:01,739 This Week in tech that the report wording, that initial 330 00:20:01,739 --> 00:20:05,189 reporting of the prism slide was so poorly done, because it 331 00:20:05,189 --> 00:20:08,039 immediately implied that the tech companies were all in and 332 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:09,389 that is not true. 333 00:20:09,810 --> 00:20:13,680 Oh, I didn't I didn't hear this. Sorry. 334 00:20:17,699 --> 00:20:18,509 My fingers. 335 00:20:18,990 --> 00:20:22,140 That didn't mean to do that. It was the automatic response. 336 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:26,099 The machine is taking over. It knows it was right. But ya know, 337 00:20:26,099 --> 00:20:28,559 this this, I should pull some clips off of that show. It was 338 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:31,469 very it wasn't Leo, saying that it was one of the one of these 339 00:20:31,469 --> 00:20:35,639 quasi reporters who's on the panel. And it was just like, oh, 340 00:20:35,639 --> 00:20:38,729 well, the reporting was really poor, and there's really no bad 341 00:20:38,729 --> 00:20:41,219 and it was all debunked. Like what? 342 00:20:42,209 --> 00:20:44,849 It's all debunked. It was never debunked. Oh, not 343 00:20:45,180 --> 00:20:47,670 all of that happened is that these companies said, Well, 344 00:20:47,670 --> 00:20:52,950 that's not true. Yeah, anyways, here's something I didn't know 345 00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:56,070 about Susan Rice, or maybe I did, I just didn't pay attention 346 00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:59,370 to it. And I always thought she was a lesbian, quite honestly. 347 00:20:59,430 --> 00:21:01,230 Is that weird that I thought that or is 348 00:21:01,830 --> 00:21:02,820 that she's not? 349 00:21:03,660 --> 00:21:07,560 Oh, yeah. Her husband, Ian Cameron used to be an executive 350 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,320 producer at ABC News. Oh, yeah. 351 00:21:10,350 --> 00:21:15,900 Okay. That's right now i were i remember. Of course, he was. He 352 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:18,540 used to run this week with Chrystia, Christiane and poor 353 00:21:18,540 --> 00:21:20,850 and later with the George Stephanopoulos, the only kit he 354 00:21:20,850 --> 00:21:29,280 quit two years ago to run the family. What's his name? Let me 355 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,180 see. Well, listen to the rest of the thing. I'll look to Ian 356 00:21:33,180 --> 00:21:36,000 Cameron. Hey, how are you? Nice to see you. Nice to see you. 357 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,750 Thanks for coming out 358 00:21:36,899 --> 00:21:40,829 in the middle of everything her BlackBerry went off. And so did 359 00:21:40,829 --> 00:21:45,419 she to confer with Secretary of State Kerry calling from Abu 360 00:21:45,419 --> 00:21:47,909 Dhabi. Never not working. I mean, you always have your 361 00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:51,869 Blackberry, and you have to be accessible. Even if the phone 362 00:21:51,869 --> 00:21:54,119 doesn't ring, you better be checking your email from time to 363 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:59,699 time, and you actually have stopped working to take care of 364 00:21:59,699 --> 00:22:00,179 the kids. 365 00:22:00,540 --> 00:22:03,540 Oh, we were in a situation, you know, financially that one of us 366 00:22:03,540 --> 00:22:04,800 could step out of the working world. 367 00:22:05,699 --> 00:22:06,509 Loaded. 368 00:22:07,169 --> 00:22:09,359 Loaded rice 49. 369 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,050 Now listen to her background. I don't know if I've ever looked 370 00:22:13,050 --> 00:22:14,940 this up. I certainly didn't remember it. And it's 371 00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:20,550 interesting how she goes off on, on why she is where she is 372 00:22:20,550 --> 00:22:24,720 today. upset that people think it might be affirmative action 373 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,170 grew up 374 00:22:25,170 --> 00:22:29,460 in the nation's capitol on embassy row, DC girl thrown 375 00:22:29,460 --> 00:22:32,940 through born and raised. Her father was a governor of the 376 00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:36,420 Federal Reserve Board, her mother, a leading figure in 377 00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:40,230 education policy. And Rice herself had a distinguished 378 00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:45,150 academic career, Stanford and Rhodes Scholar. There were those 379 00:22:45,150 --> 00:22:49,200 who wanted to suggest as I was growing up that any success I 380 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,070 might have had was because of affirmative action. And that 381 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,810 didn't sit well with me. And so that must have hurt. Well, I 382 00:22:57,810 --> 00:23:00,810 resented it. I don't know if it hurt, because I didn't think it 383 00:23:00,810 --> 00:23:01,350 was true. 384 00:23:01,890 --> 00:23:05,580 This is interesting. Why would she be so firmly against 385 00:23:05,580 --> 00:23:09,810 affirmative action? And for some reason, isn't the whole point of 386 00:23:09,810 --> 00:23:13,260 affirmative action is that you can be successful? And she's 387 00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:16,200 saying, Oh, I was really I didn't I hated the fact that 388 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,900 resented that people thought I was got to where I was because 389 00:23:18,900 --> 00:23:21,060 of affirmative action. Why is she Why would she be against 390 00:23:21,060 --> 00:23:25,410 that? I thought that they were all in on affirmative action. 391 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:28,530 You've actually brought something up. It's kind of 392 00:23:28,530 --> 00:23:30,570 interesting and interesting interpretation. I don't know. I 393 00:23:30,570 --> 00:23:33,360 have no idea she shouldn't have Why did she bring it up at all? 394 00:23:33,630 --> 00:23:36,180 She's the one who dropped it in there. It wasn't asked to by 395 00:23:36,210 --> 00:23:37,680 Leslie. Well, the 396 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,680 whole thing is, you know, the interview is clearly tightly 397 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,620 scripted, and everything is slotted in as a lot of editing 398 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:46,170 going on. But then of course, you know, we learned that other 399 00:23:46,170 --> 00:23:48,720 way her husband looks like the goofball of the Deccan. 400 00:23:49,649 --> 00:23:55,439 And then we learned that, you know, she is the daughter of a 401 00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:58,769 Fed guy. Well, yeah. Yeah, 402 00:23:58,830 --> 00:24:01,650 I don't need no affirmative action. I've got my own corrupt 403 00:24:01,650 --> 00:24:04,050 way of getting to the top. Exactly. 404 00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:06,480 Like, wow, what are you 405 00:24:06,990 --> 00:24:11,640 wouldn't deed I wouldn't stoop so low to take advantage of that 406 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,980 when I have my family to take advantage. 407 00:24:14,340 --> 00:24:17,430 I am thinking she that was thrown in to distract from the 408 00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:20,310 fact that that's where she comes from. And a Rhodes Scholar. 409 00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:23,580 Well, you know what, that's all about the Rhodes Scholar. 410 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:28,080 Yeah, well, that's one of those. That's no good. Agency. 411 00:24:28,860 --> 00:24:33,060 Let's see. So there were a couple other little mini things 412 00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:36,390 that everyone was out on the talk show Mike Morel, the guy 413 00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:39,180 who'd never done an interview ever as he's leaving the CIA 414 00:24:39,180 --> 00:24:44,220 after 33 years. Now he's everywhere. And he needs some 415 00:24:44,220 --> 00:24:47,700 help from the curry Devorah Consulting Group. But I can give 416 00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:51,180 him the tip right now Mike, before you do the interview a 417 00:24:51,180 --> 00:24:54,360 either don't smoke weed so you get this cotton mouth or drink 418 00:24:54,360 --> 00:25:00,090 some water. Listen, you'll just hear you know how someone was 419 00:25:00,090 --> 00:25:05,340 all that just gooey white dream sticky mouth? Yeah, 420 00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:09,540 a lot of that's, you know, I one time I was I was in New York 421 00:25:09,540 --> 00:25:13,860 with a agent, book agent friend of mine, and we ran out he knows 422 00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:16,740 everybody in town and so he walks into walk, we walked past 423 00:25:16,740 --> 00:25:20,670 some guy who starts yakking about something or other and he 424 00:25:20,670 --> 00:25:24,030 had, and he was talking to him, and he every time he opened his 425 00:25:24,030 --> 00:25:28,830 mouth, there was no strings. It was horrible. It was like every 426 00:25:28,830 --> 00:25:33,810 time you open his mouth, there was like 40 strings. And so I 427 00:25:33,810 --> 00:25:40,260 commented on this and they and he says to me, heroin. What are 428 00:25:40,260 --> 00:25:41,400 you sad guys? 429 00:25:41,910 --> 00:25:44,280 Heroin. Oh, there you go. My 430 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,130 the agent says heroin he says that's for common. You see that 431 00:25:47,130 --> 00:25:49,440 all the time with a lot of heroin users. Okay, well, maybe 432 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,040 Michael. This seems unlikely with a CIA guy but who knows? 433 00:25:53,070 --> 00:25:53,910 Maybe Morales 434 00:25:53,910 --> 00:25:57,870 right in the white horse, the white pony, the big age. 435 00:25:58,740 --> 00:26:02,460 You should never have gobs of goo between your lips when 436 00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:04,560 you're talking as though it's like it's just it's pretty 437 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,200 disgusting. Well have a watch Have a listen thank the 438 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,600 president should give him some sort of amnesty 439 00:26:09,630 --> 00:26:15,120 and you know I do not and I feel strongly about me that he 440 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:20,370 violated the trust put in him by the United States government. He 441 00:26:20,370 --> 00:26:22,890 has committed a crime and my views all that racket. 442 00:26:23,730 --> 00:26:27,990 That's his that's his strings it's a string mouth Oh 443 00:26:29,370 --> 00:26:33,780 whistleblower doesn't run a whistle holes crass non 444 00:26:33,810 --> 00:26:35,160 disclosure information stop. 445 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,430 Did you notice the other thing that happened? It was the 446 00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:42,120 Snowden says hey, I went through channels I already tried doing 447 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:42,570 stuff 448 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,380 and not only that, not only that, but all of these so called 449 00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:52,290 Great avenues the President has put in place are only now only I 450 00:26:52,290 --> 00:26:55,710 think this month coming into the right into low there's 451 00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:58,770 no he did I believe snowed when he says he tried to you know, 452 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,370 point these things out to the to the channels and they said I get 453 00:27:02,370 --> 00:27:05,610 to get out of here contractor. I don't know why you treated 454 00:27:05,610 --> 00:27:07,020 contractors treated like crap. 455 00:27:07,050 --> 00:27:09,930 I don't know what to believe. But I find this interesting 456 00:27:09,930 --> 00:27:14,160 thing for morale to say with his 40, white gooey strings 457 00:27:14,250 --> 00:27:18,090 on a whistleblower does not disclose information that has 458 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:22,290 nothing to do with what he says his causes, which is the privacy 459 00:27:22,290 --> 00:27:26,730 and civil liberties of Americans. You know, if I could 460 00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:28,200 talk to Mr. Snowden myself, 461 00:27:28,590 --> 00:27:32,820 why and I wonder why can't he be I'm sure my morale can pick up a 462 00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:36,480 phone somewhere and say get me Snowden. I'm sure that he can 463 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,730 get Snowden on the phone. Sure. 464 00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:40,200 I'm sure Snowden will take 465 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:46,860 the call. Yes. What say is Edward? Edward, Edward. You say 466 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,550 you're a patriot? You say yourself 467 00:27:50,550 --> 00:27:52,470 in? Yeah, that's exactly right. 468 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:55,860 protect the privacy and civil liberties of Americans. You say 469 00:27:55,860 --> 00:28:00,540 that you wanted Americans to have a debate about this and to 470 00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:04,440 make up their mind about what to do about this? Well, if you 471 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,050 really believe that, if you really believe that Americans 472 00:28:07,050 --> 00:28:10,140 should be the judge of this programme, then you should also 473 00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:13,260 believe that the Americans should be the judge of your 474 00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:16,950 behaviour in this regard. So if you are the Patriot that you say 475 00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:19,170 you are, you should come home and be judged. 476 00:28:20,370 --> 00:28:24,150 I say oh, crap, kangaroo court. Is he kidding me? 477 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:25,290 Yeah, no, he's 478 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,630 judging me. I think he's fine. Let him go. Yeah. 479 00:28:28,380 --> 00:28:31,560 I would say hey, you know, Mike, do you want you grab a couple 480 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,000 ounces a scope? And I'll consider it disgusting, man. 481 00:28:38,580 --> 00:28:40,830 It seemed that I read the transcript. 482 00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:48,660 Then we had Mike Rogers. That so I'm sorry. So Morel was on Face 483 00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:54,510 The Nation. Mike Rogers went on the Stephanopoulos show. And 484 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,320 this, of course is ABC and we know you know, the Ian Cameron. 485 00:28:58,350 --> 00:29:02,550 We did so many ABC connections between this particular White 486 00:29:02,550 --> 00:29:06,060 House but the press corps in general and the administration 487 00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:10,170 that in administrations past the Clintons, etc. The bushes 488 00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:16,860 everywhere, it's one big, incestuous pool of goo. Here's 489 00:29:17,010 --> 00:29:20,160 Rogers. spouting his Christmas cheer, 490 00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:23,040 he went to the press. Then he went to the bastion of internet 491 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:28,650 freedom China, and then Russia to lay claim. Claims that by the 492 00:29:28,650 --> 00:29:31,890 way, this individual report dominated by law professors just 493 00:29:31,890 --> 00:29:32,340 said 494 00:29:32,370 --> 00:29:37,080 my love dominated by law professors. This is the report 495 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,190 that was written by Mike Morel who was the deputy CIA director 496 00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:45,150 Richard Clark, who I don't think is a law professor. There's one 497 00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:49,440 law professor in this bunch. But now that now the this this 498 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,640 report that was written by the total insider shields, which no 499 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,480 one ever mentioned, by name in the mainstream, has now become 500 00:29:58,380 --> 00:30:03,270 dominated by the Lawyers by constitutional lawyers no less. 501 00:30:03,690 --> 00:30:05,640 I'm sorry, Mr. Rods. Yeah, 502 00:30:05,670 --> 00:30:09,420 this guy is a horrible person. But how does he get reelected 503 00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:10,140 over and over? 504 00:30:10,170 --> 00:30:12,810 He's not the only one claiming this, you'll you'll hear come 505 00:30:12,810 --> 00:30:13,260 back. 506 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:16,890 There was no scandal, no surveillance on in under the 215 507 00:30:16,890 --> 00:30:19,320 programme all of the things that he's been saying I think been 508 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,700 repudiated by this report. 509 00:30:20,730 --> 00:30:22,920 And by the way, Rodgers is telling the truth in this 510 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,580 regard. Most of the headlines you're reading our report says 511 00:30:26,580 --> 00:30:29,940 rein it in, Mr. Obama, that's not true. We read the report for 512 00:30:29,940 --> 00:30:32,790 you here on the show, it could still find it in the show notes 513 00:30:32,790 --> 00:30:37,380 Two episodes ago. It's nothing of the kind. Nothing at all. All 514 00:30:37,380 --> 00:30:40,140 it says is, hey, why don't we make some other people rich and 515 00:30:40,170 --> 00:30:42,840 and all that data will have to be stored privately by a third 516 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,380 company. 517 00:30:43,470 --> 00:30:45,570 That'll save us some money. Finally, 518 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,390 all of that I think we need to take into consideration Finally, 519 00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:48,600 you've 520 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,330 warned that the terror threat may be increasing again, I'll 521 00:30:51,330 --> 00:30:54,900 cut on the road again. And we know that they have targeted the 522 00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:57,390 Christmas season before Do you have any more reason to be 523 00:30:57,390 --> 00:30:58,470 especially concerned 524 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:03,390 about but now let me ask you a question. Why is it that 525 00:31:03,390 --> 00:31:09,300 whenever there's a holiday, we get this George Stephanopoulos 526 00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:14,670 in a democratic operative, the Clinton operative, saying, We 527 00:31:14,670 --> 00:31:19,080 know they target Christmas and holiday seasons? What is that? 528 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,300 Is that true? Or is that just made up? 529 00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:28,530 Well is true in some parts of the Middle East. But in this 530 00:31:28,530 --> 00:31:32,160 country, there will there's no evidence of it. I mean, unless 531 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,370 you want to count that phoney baloney crocodile brown 532 00:31:35,370 --> 00:31:39,060 guy was it now three years ago, four years ago. So we're I don't 533 00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:43,530 know, I just the framing of this by Stephanopoulos was very on 534 00:31:43,530 --> 00:31:44,430 journalistic. And 535 00:31:44,850 --> 00:31:47,190 on the rise again, on the rise again. 536 00:31:47,459 --> 00:31:52,649 I thought it was decimated. They were decimated. Was it on the 537 00:31:52,649 --> 00:31:54,899 rise on the rise again targeted 538 00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:57,780 the Christmas season before Do you have any more reason to be 539 00:31:57,780 --> 00:32:00,960 especially concerned? Right now is the threat level going up 540 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,790 around this holiday threat level season? 541 00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:06,840 Well, I think any national holiday like that we would 542 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,390 experience here like Christmas is something that we are 543 00:32:09,390 --> 00:32:10,020 concerned about. 544 00:32:10,170 --> 00:32:14,790 Why why Mike Rogers? Why you're not you're terrorising the 545 00:32:14,790 --> 00:32:18,510 American people is what you were doing you, sir, are a terrorist 546 00:32:18,510 --> 00:32:21,900 in the purest definition of the word. You're terrorising people 547 00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:26,520 with absolutely nothing to back it up. There's no evidence that 548 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:32,670 we Oh, Teddy. Well, oh, it's a national holiday. And by the 549 00:32:32,670 --> 00:32:34,470 way, what does this Festivus bullcrap. 550 00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:39,300 Well, I think it's funny that has been cropping up as a what 551 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:43,410 is it? As a common meme? What is Festivus? Well, the festive is 552 00:32:43,410 --> 00:32:47,490 just a little bit like Kwanzaa. It was created on the Jerry 553 00:32:47,490 --> 00:32:48,540 Seinfeld show. 554 00:32:48,570 --> 00:32:52,650 Oh, yes. Okay. I remember what it is now. Okay. Ah, so when 555 00:32:52,650 --> 00:32:54,990 someone says that I'm supposed to laugh, it's supposed to be. 556 00:32:56,790 --> 00:33:00,420 Oh, okay. All right. Did it on the flight up here. I was taking 557 00:33:00,420 --> 00:33:04,050 the southwest. And he said to happy we didn't want to thank I 558 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,140 wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy Kwanzaa and a happy 559 00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:08,310 Festivus. Yeah, I 560 00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:11,460 think I see any other threat stream that I wouldn't say is 561 00:33:11,460 --> 00:33:14,520 out of the norm. But again, and the reason we say that is 562 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,130 because there are more affiliates, more al Qaeda 563 00:33:17,130 --> 00:33:17,610 affiliates. 564 00:33:17,940 --> 00:33:21,120 The Get a pen John, we got to write down the org chart there 565 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,990 more affiliates 566 00:33:22,020 --> 00:33:25,020 around the world, Al Qaida in the Maghreb, the Arabian 567 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:32,100 Peninsula, Al Shabaab blaming some of Qaeda affiliate out. All 568 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:35,220 of these groups want to have and have the aspiration to commit 569 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:37,710 acts of violence against Westerners and and Why 570 00:33:38,250 --> 00:33:41,820 could you explain that Mike Rogers, why? Why do they want, 571 00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:45,900 they just they wake up and they just hate us. We think they need 572 00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:47,250 to get back to explaining why the 573 00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:51,810 United States, that's why this threat has grown. And we have 574 00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:55,830 more chances to miss something. And we have just less 575 00:33:55,830 --> 00:34:00,300 opportunity not to pay attention to every single clue we can find 576 00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:03,030 to make sure that we protect the citizens of the United States. 577 00:34:03,030 --> 00:34:06,030 And by the way, we can do that in a way that protects privacy 578 00:34:06,030 --> 00:34:08,820 and civil liberties. But you have to be arguing about the 579 00:34:08,820 --> 00:34:12,240 same sets of data points. And I would hope that this report 580 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:16,110 stops this inflammatory language of surveillance and scandal and 581 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,920 devastating not that this report, I think concluded was 582 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,380 true. And some of the shortcomings of this report real 583 00:34:22,380 --> 00:34:25,560 quick, George, they didn't gorge to the FBI when it came to 584 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,730 Section 215. And 585 00:34:26,850 --> 00:34:31,320 this is another thing about the report. And I've heard Rogers 586 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,890 about this several times. He's pissed off, that the panel did 587 00:34:34,890 --> 00:34:38,430 not communicate with the FBI because the FBI, of course is 588 00:34:38,430 --> 00:34:42,840 always you know, they they take whatever information comes from 589 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,730 the NSA and they go and arrest terrorists. But the FBI is not 590 00:34:47,730 --> 00:34:51,750 interested in giving the NSA any credit because let's face it, 591 00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:54,900 these guys sit around and honeypot guys for months. They 592 00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:58,140 don't want to give the NSA credit for that. And this is and 593 00:34:58,140 --> 00:35:02,040 you can hear Rogers is all teed off about it, who didn't talk to 594 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,650 the FBI or the FBI, they wouldn't solve a single case 595 00:35:04,650 --> 00:35:07,200 without the NSA spying on everybody, which is just not 596 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,590 true. And the FBI doesn't want any involvement in doesn't want 597 00:35:10,590 --> 00:35:13,650 any of that NSA goop on them, because they got their own ways 598 00:35:13,650 --> 00:35:16,530 of duping the people for any length 599 00:35:16,890 --> 00:35:19,740 about the value of certain programmes that they recommended 600 00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:23,010 against. And by the way, including to 15. They never had 601 00:35:23,010 --> 00:35:25,560 a sit down long conversation with the Federal Bureau of 602 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,800 Investigation. Who does these investigations. That's an 603 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,160 unfortunate shortcoming in this report. And will be I think, 604 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,680 talking about that in the days ahead. Yeah, some good things in 605 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,370 this report. 606 00:35:35,850 --> 00:35:39,000 This is these messages, little telegraph moment there from Mike 607 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,270 Rogers. Yeah, we're gonna have to drill we're gonna drag the 608 00:35:42,270 --> 00:35:47,670 FBI in here to show some proof, some proof that, that it works, 609 00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:47,880 things 610 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,190 that are concerning in this report recommendations are 611 00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:53,160 things that the government should do that they are already 612 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,260 doing and things that the government shouldn't do that 613 00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:58,650 they're not doing. And so I think this is not the holy grail 614 00:35:58,650 --> 00:36:01,410 of reports, but I do think it crossed a very important 615 00:36:01,410 --> 00:36:05,430 milestone and saying, hey, no scandal. No, no law breaking now 616 00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:08,610 let's just have an honest debate about where we think we ought to 617 00:36:08,610 --> 00:36:11,820 go in trying to stop terrorists from blowing up American 618 00:36:11,820 --> 00:36:13,080 citizens here in the United States. 619 00:36:13,860 --> 00:36:17,610 You're gonna get blowed up American citizen. This guy is a 620 00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:20,340 terrorist. John Does he is terrorising people. 621 00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:24,540 Yeah, no, he should be arrested for as a terrorist. 622 00:36:25,230 --> 00:36:28,110 So this, this is quite the 623 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,730 quite what was a lot who got blowed up in the last five, six 624 00:36:32,730 --> 00:36:34,110 years. I blew it up last year, the 625 00:36:34,110 --> 00:36:38,790 Boston bombers. They blow people up guys. You saw the guy with 626 00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:40,290 his leg blowed off. Just some 627 00:36:40,290 --> 00:36:43,560 guys just gonna happen. It just happened before 911 and these 628 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,320 sorts of things. There was always a pipe bomb once a year 629 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,760 at Berkeley in front of a bang, YOU 630 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,350 HERETIC. You didn't know. But so here's what's happening. It's 631 00:36:52,380 --> 00:36:56,580 the word is out. That the NSA, certainly this metadata 632 00:36:56,580 --> 00:37:01,290 programme has not really resulted in anything. And now 633 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,250 they're scrambling, because lay he is on the warpath and 634 00:37:05,250 --> 00:37:09,270 everyone's saying, hey, you know, maybe maybe one case where 635 00:37:09,420 --> 00:37:13,080 something the NSA discovered resulted in us nabbing a guy who 636 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,750 was sending money to someone in Yemen, which of course 637 00:37:15,780 --> 00:37:19,230 immediately is equated to financing terrorism against 638 00:37:19,230 --> 00:37:20,640 Americans who will get blowed up. 639 00:37:20,940 --> 00:37:24,750 And that could all be bullcrap. Did you see the President's 640 00:37:24,780 --> 00:37:27,240 press conference? last press conference 641 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:28,140 this year? Yeah, of course. 642 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,320 I have to I have a couple of clips I want to get to. And the 643 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,860 one clip I was going to clip it was too long. It was a guy 644 00:37:34,860 --> 00:37:41,430 actually asking Obama about 215. And then about the reports. He 645 00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:44,940 says the Obama The report says that there was nothing that came 646 00:37:44,940 --> 00:37:47,640 of any of this. What do you what do you do? How is what's your 647 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,910 reaction to that? And Obama goes well, let me answer that second 648 00:37:50,910 --> 00:37:54,180 part later. Let me tell you this and he talked for 10 minutes. 649 00:37:54,210 --> 00:37:56,940 Yeah, and then he never did he skipped a second he never said 650 00:37:56,940 --> 00:38:00,030 anything. He goes Do you saw that? Yes. So here's the thing 651 00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:02,640 that got me look at this clip here. And this one I thought was 652 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,610 weird. This is the last press conference pre opener. 653 00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:09,180 I'm sorry, hold on a second. I had the wrong one pre opener. 654 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:09,750 Okay. 655 00:38:12,270 --> 00:38:17,100 Good afternoon everybody. I know you are all eager to skip town 656 00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:21,390 and spend some time with your family's not surprisingly I am 657 00:38:21,390 --> 00:38:24,000 too okay. 658 00:38:24,270 --> 00:38:26,970 skip town Yeah, like your what kind of 659 00:38:27,330 --> 00:38:31,440 street our gut is this? This is this is way criminals criminals 660 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,730 talk that way. Yeah. We skip town. We're gonna skip town. 661 00:38:37,350 --> 00:38:39,630 This is criminal lingo. It's his hood lingo. 662 00:38:40,620 --> 00:38:43,230 It's like this is the President United States is going to skip 663 00:38:43,230 --> 00:38:48,120 town and I know I want to skip town. Well, I thought that I was 664 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:48,810 just taken aback. 665 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,920 But this is another part of this is another meme. Washington is 666 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,640 evil and we all know it. Washington is really a horrible 667 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,000 place and we all know it we're really doing the best we can but 668 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,220 we can't wait to get out of here no i i caught the criminal angle 669 00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:13,080 but I'm these people are this kind of works for me. These 670 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,710 people work for me and for you and for every American in here. 671 00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:19,680 And this is the way they they talk about this and can't wait 672 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,620 to skip town blow this popsicle joint make like a banana and 673 00:39:22,620 --> 00:39:26,910 split this place blows. Well then why don't you not come back 674 00:39:26,910 --> 00:39:28,980 and we'll get someone who's really interested in doing some 675 00:39:28,980 --> 00:39:29,520 work. 676 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,750 Yeah, no. So I reacted very negatively leaving that comment 677 00:39:36,780 --> 00:39:39,600 here. Yeah. And here's the opener. This is the you know, 678 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,040 he's Danny begins and it's like, Dennis tries to be funny and he 679 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,940 gets it. Then the woman he first picks on she nails him with a 680 00:39:47,940 --> 00:39:49,980 good question. It irks him. Yeah. 681 00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:55,590 So before so merry Christmas. We're all into all a good night. 682 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,560 I will take ah 683 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,430 yes from the night before Christmas book, some questions. 684 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:04,800 Jay prepare to lays. 685 00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:09,150 Does that mean he's Santa Claus? The way he says that, or does he 686 00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:13,530 think he's Santa Claus? Before I get to all before I get to all a 687 00:40:13,530 --> 00:40:16,650 farewell unto all a good night, which is what Santa Fe says at 688 00:40:16,650 --> 00:40:17,640 the end of the night before 689 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,820 Christmas. That's I didn't think of that. But it's good. I think 690 00:40:20,820 --> 00:40:22,080 he probably thinks he's Christmas. 691 00:40:22,110 --> 00:40:25,800 So before we should Merry Christmas to all and to all a 692 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:26,610 good night. Yeah. And 693 00:40:26,610 --> 00:40:29,700 because I'm Santa Claus, I will take some questions. 694 00:40:31,020 --> 00:40:33,990 Jay prepared a list of who's naughty and nice. So we'll see. 695 00:40:36,090 --> 00:40:38,850 Yeah, that's right. We set up we set it all right, reaffirms the 696 00:40:38,850 --> 00:40:42,390 Santa Claus meme. Yeah. I'm Santa Claus. And I'm going to 697 00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:45,810 give a couple of you the opportunity to ask me a scripted 698 00:40:45,810 --> 00:40:48,420 question. If you were nice. 699 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,380 We'll say who made it really must be nice. 700 00:40:52,980 --> 00:40:55,740 That's not at all like a propagandist thing that's going 701 00:40:55,740 --> 00:40:58,320 on there is and you can joke about it all you want. But it's 702 00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,910 really not that funny, Julie Pace. 703 00:41:01,530 --> 00:41:04,800 Because, despite all of the data points that you cited in your 704 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,770 opening statement, when you look back at this year, very little 705 00:41:07,770 --> 00:41:10,380 of the domestic agenda that you outlined in their inaugural 706 00:41:10,380 --> 00:41:13,020 address in your state of the union has been achieved. Health 707 00:41:13,020 --> 00:41:16,290 care rollout obviously had huge problems. And your ratings from 708 00:41:16,290 --> 00:41:19,830 the public are near historic lows for you. When you take us 709 00:41:19,830 --> 00:41:22,680 all together. Has this been the worst year of your presidency? 710 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:27,330 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Why don't they do something 711 00:41:27,330 --> 00:41:31,530 about these cameras? There's no reason you can barely hear the 712 00:41:31,530 --> 00:41:34,860 question. This is a broadcast. And all you hear how many 713 00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:37,500 pictures are these guys have to take? I have a theory 714 00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:43,320 on this. This is, first of all, you never see you never hear the 715 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,530 question asked when you're watching the news. The news will 716 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,380 because it's it's totally irrelevant for the framing of 717 00:41:49,380 --> 00:41:53,100 the messaging. So even on PBS NewsHour, they'll say the 718 00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:55,710 President today responded to questions about this being 719 00:41:55,710 --> 00:41:58,410 possibly the worst year of his presidency, and then they go to 720 00:41:58,410 --> 00:42:02,370 his answer. They never have the question. And I think the reason 721 00:42:02,370 --> 00:42:06,030 is that they have that they don't or either they don't mind 722 00:42:06,030 --> 00:42:09,300 it, or they'd certainly don't do away with the loud camera clicks 723 00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:12,480 is they don't want you to hear the question. When you hear the 724 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,390 questions, you will hear the context in which the answer 725 00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:18,900 comes. And it's always subtle, but it is different. I think 726 00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:20,400 it's meant so you both so 727 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,100 it's definitely doable with that one question where the President 728 00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:26,190 ever answered which he does a lot, by the way, you know, they 729 00:42:26,190 --> 00:42:29,070 asked him a poignant question, and he doesn't answer. He just 730 00:42:29,070 --> 00:42:30,810 lectures them about some Yeah. 731 00:42:31,260 --> 00:42:34,080 But think about it. It's that makes so much sense. We it's 732 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,550 unusable audio, they they rarely have the shot of the journalist 733 00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:41,160 on time. If they'd have it at all, 734 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,710 and where are they picking up does sound from they don't they 735 00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:45,210 don't have these guys might not 736 00:42:45,210 --> 00:42:49,560 know there's a there's a person who sits up front to the left, 737 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:54,720 if you're looking from the from the podium down and has a little 738 00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:59,160 directional microphone and pointed at the person. 739 00:42:59,730 --> 00:43:01,890 And they pick up all these clicks in the meantime, of 740 00:43:01,890 --> 00:43:02,430 course. 741 00:43:02,850 --> 00:43:05,190 I mean, yeah. I mean, you could easily have everybody miked you 742 00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:08,100 could have all kinds of you know, you could have a boom mic 743 00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:10,560 being put into someone's face. They don't want that. They don't 744 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,170 want you to hear the question in context. Certainly not at the 745 00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:15,630 President's president's not going to answer the question. 746 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:20,670 Certainly not. I'm 747 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,790 not going to disagree with the theory. So the clicks are 748 00:43:23,790 --> 00:43:28,080 annoying. In the UK, by the way, you could put a rule and you can 749 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,960 bring in one of those loud shutter. Yeah, but the cameras, 750 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,200 these are digital days. We can shoot without the bang, bang, 751 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,010 bang, bang, bang. 752 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,630 I think I've answered your question. 753 00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:39,660 Yeah, I'm just bitching. Go on putting the rest of that and you 754 00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:42,360 hear him try to weasel out of this question. 755 00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:48,570 I gotta tell you generally that's not how I think about it. 756 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:54,450 I have now been in office five years. Right. 757 00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,090 Did you see Edward Snowden this alternative Christmas message? 758 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,760 No, I did not. 759 00:44:02,940 --> 00:44:06,000 Okay, in the UK. And this actually, I have a little bit of 760 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,500 a clip explaining what that is. They so we have the queen, she 761 00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,830 does a Christmas message. And then channels that's on the BBC 762 00:44:13,830 --> 00:44:17,670 then Channel Four. Always has an alternative Christmas message in 763 00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:21,480 the past they've had I'm Marge Simpson. You know, it's a kind 764 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:26,100 of a joke. But this year, it was different. It was kind of a 765 00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:30,540 joke. It was Edward Snowden delivering his Christmas message 766 00:44:30,540 --> 00:44:35,340 to the world via Channel Four via Praxis film so this is Laura 767 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:39,510 Poydras oh I have to say really needs to work on her miking 768 00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:42,810 skills because the audio is crap. I don't know what this 769 00:44:42,810 --> 00:44:46,470 shot is. This is like this is this is the worst possible setup 770 00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:49,530 so she may not have even done it but it's running through her 771 00:44:50,070 --> 00:44:53,610 company has the copyright on it. The copywriting the news once 772 00:44:53,610 --> 00:44:57,840 again here. And God knows how you know what the deal is that 773 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,750 they cut with Channel Four but here's the here's Edward Snowden 774 00:45:00,750 --> 00:45:04,020 his message which I found to be wholly disappointing. 775 00:45:04,380 --> 00:45:08,190 Hi, and Merry Christmas, I'm honoured to have a chance to 776 00:45:08,190 --> 00:45:10,170 speak with you and your family this year from a 777 00:45:10,170 --> 00:45:12,150 bucket. Pretty much he's in 778 00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:14,580 a hotel and they take the microphone and throw it in a 779 00:45:14,580 --> 00:45:16,890 bucket. And then okay, you can talk now 780 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,230 it's seriously now I think someone tried to do some 781 00:45:19,230 --> 00:45:22,020 processing to make it sound a little decent, but it's it's 782 00:45:22,020 --> 00:45:22,560 crap. 783 00:45:22,590 --> 00:45:26,340 Recently, we learned that our governments working in concert 784 00:45:26,430 --> 00:45:30,870 has created a system of worldwide mass surveillance 785 00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:32,580 watching everything we do. 786 00:45:32,850 --> 00:45:37,470 Now, just I want you to really concentrate job because I know 787 00:45:37,470 --> 00:45:40,650 you'll pick it up. This isn't this is written by someone. This 788 00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:42,480 is written by a speech writer. 789 00:45:42,690 --> 00:45:45,210 Yeah, I know this already sounds like it's written. In fact, it 790 00:45:45,210 --> 00:45:47,820 almost sounds like it was written by a presidential 791 00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:52,110 speechwriter when you really think about it. Recently, we 792 00:45:52,110 --> 00:45:55,890 learned now this is not Edward Snowden, the personable guy I'm 793 00:45:55,890 --> 00:45:58,320 gonna, I'm gonna start it over again. Not that, you know, like, 794 00:45:58,350 --> 00:46:00,870 Hey, here's what I'm doing. I had to blow the whistle. No, 795 00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:05,700 this is we and the world. And it's bothers me. 796 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,910 I'm honoured to have a chance to speak with you and your family 797 00:46:08,910 --> 00:46:13,080 this year. Recently, we learned that our government's working in 798 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,390 concert have created a system of worldwide mass surveillance 799 00:46:18,420 --> 00:46:23,760 watching everything we do. Great Britain's George Orwell warned 800 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,480 us of the danger of this kind of information. The types of 801 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,840 collection in the book microphones and video cameras, 802 00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:34,290 TVs that watch us are nothing compared to what we have 803 00:46:34,290 --> 00:46:38,160 available today. We have sensors in our pockets that track us 804 00:46:38,190 --> 00:46:42,840 everywhere we go. Think about what this means for the privacy 805 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:48,510 of the average person. A child born today will grow up with no 806 00:46:48,510 --> 00:46:53,130 conception of privacy at all. They'll never know what it means 807 00:46:53,130 --> 00:46:55,230 to have a private moment to themselves. 808 00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,090 Okay, this is a little oily going a little overboard. On 809 00:47:00,090 --> 00:47:00,750 recorded 810 00:47:00,780 --> 00:47:02,370 on analysed thought. 811 00:47:04,350 --> 00:47:09,930 Okay, so firstly brings in 1984 George Orwell I don't know if 812 00:47:09,930 --> 00:47:12,750 this was a smart. There's I'm sure there's a reason for it 813 00:47:12,750 --> 00:47:18,300 doesn't feel like the smart way to go. In explaining it makes 814 00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:22,590 him sound like a crackpot. Quite honestly. You don't I mean, it's 815 00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:25,230 like if I were going to write something that was serious, and 816 00:47:25,230 --> 00:47:27,690 I really want to say something to people, I wouldn't be 817 00:47:27,690 --> 00:47:31,260 bringing up the Orwell book. I just, I don't know. 818 00:47:32,340 --> 00:47:35,040 Maybe I don't know what to tell you. It's the thing was 819 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,120 definitely written. It's a little bit off topic, actually, 820 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,850 to be honest about it. Yeah. And, 821 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,180 well, there's another 40 seconds. And he's also now 822 00:47:45,180 --> 00:47:50,160 saying any child born, this born today will never have an 823 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,420 independent on unrecorded on audited thought. That's not 824 00:47:54,420 --> 00:47:59,280 true. Of course, that's in your head. But okay. And that's 825 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,870 a problem. Because privacy matters. Privacy is what allows 826 00:48:03,870 --> 00:48:08,940 us to determine who we are and who we want to be. The 827 00:48:08,940 --> 00:48:12,630 conversation occurring today will determine the amount of 828 00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:16,380 trust we can place both in the technology that surrounds us, 829 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,090 and the government that regulates it. Together, we can 830 00:48:21,090 --> 00:48:26,610 find a better balance and mass surveillance and remind the 831 00:48:26,610 --> 00:48:29,250 government that if it really wants to know how we feel, 832 00:48:29,730 --> 00:48:34,890 asking is always cheaper than spying. For everyone out there 833 00:48:34,890 --> 00:48:38,670 listening. Thank you. And Merry Christmas. 834 00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:46,890 Asking is always cheaper than spying? Is he advocating that 835 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,890 the government just pick you up, 836 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,070 grab everybody in a large room, beat him and ask him 837 00:48:53,070 --> 00:48:54,870 pick your downtown for questioning? 838 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,400 Maybe that's what he's advocate. That's what I heard. Town did. 839 00:48:59,940 --> 00:49:01,350 We're gonna ask you some questions. 840 00:49:02,580 --> 00:49:05,640 Yeah, and that we have a few questions for you got 841 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:11,400 some. Now here is a response from CNN. Then of course, we had 842 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,500 the B team on which is Carol, Carol, Carol, CNN, 843 00:49:16,530 --> 00:49:21,420 facebook.com/carol, CNN, who's, that's all I saw. I remember her 844 00:49:21,420 --> 00:49:25,020 name. And you want to this is actually for me. Here's your 845 00:49:25,020 --> 00:49:26,520 vagina logic right here. 846 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,450 So Carol, a very positive message from Edward Snowden 847 00:49:30,450 --> 00:49:33,390 about the world we're live in today. But I think that over the 848 00:49:33,390 --> 00:49:36,780 years, he's obviously been a very controversial figure. And 849 00:49:36,780 --> 00:49:41,370 so he has gone from kind of revealing this NSA surveillance 850 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,000 programme 851 00:49:42,690 --> 00:49:47,460 Stopstopstop did she say over the year or over the year? I 852 00:49:47,460 --> 00:49:47,820 first 853 00:49:47,820 --> 00:49:50,490 thought she said years but I think it's year is what she's 854 00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:51,420 saying. Well, listen again. 855 00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:55,410 So Carol, a very positive message from Edward Snowden 856 00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:58,380 about the world we're live in today. But I think that over the 857 00:49:58,380 --> 00:50:01,650 years, he's I think he's too His year, obviously been a very 858 00:50:01,650 --> 00:50:05,490 controversial figure. And so he has gone from kind of revealing 859 00:50:05,490 --> 00:50:09,330 this NSA surveillance programmes, I think to being 860 00:50:09,330 --> 00:50:12,360 more of a provocateur, and getting a dialogue going 861 00:50:12,450 --> 00:50:14,430 provocateur about the kind of 862 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,560 provocateur. He says the French word for a whole provocateur, 863 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,050 programmes that are going on right now, 864 00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:25,440 it just enters my mind, he probably tape he did tape that 865 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,140 in Russia, right? Because he can't leave and Russia is not 866 00:50:28,140 --> 00:50:32,130 exactly, you know, a place where freedom of speech flourishes. 867 00:50:32,130 --> 00:50:35,940 And if he said anything against Russia, Russia probably wouldn't 868 00:50:35,940 --> 00:50:40,020 let him release this message. And just he's just a complicated 869 00:50:40,020 --> 00:50:42,840 guy. And it's a complicated issue. And I don't know how to 870 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:43,590 feel about it. 871 00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:47,070 Because my brain is all scrambled, I can't think. 872 00:50:51,180 --> 00:50:54,180 Well, I think it's interesting. And there's a bit of hypocrisy 873 00:50:54,180 --> 00:50:57,090 going on, as you say, because in Russia, she didn't say that 874 00:50:57,090 --> 00:51:00,420 she didn't say any. Oh, I guess this is because Russia is 875 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:01,770 hypocritical. There's 876 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,160 there's a very little freedom of expression. And you've seen over 877 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,610 very little no freedom of expression. Really, President 878 00:51:08,610 --> 00:51:13,140 Putin cracking down even further opposition. And the gates of the 879 00:51:13,140 --> 00:51:17,370 conditions of Edward Snowden is a so called temporary asylum is 880 00:51:17,370 --> 00:51:20,940 that he wasn't going to do any more leaks against the United 881 00:51:20,940 --> 00:51:24,060 States. But you've seen, you know, he's passed a lot of 882 00:51:24,060 --> 00:51:28,440 information to journalists, gun crime, others. And so you've 883 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,960 seen these selective leaks over the years that officials say 884 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,330 they really have no idea how much 885 00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:34,440 over the years. 886 00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:38,280 Yeah, and she's saying selective leaks, and which is not 887 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,590 selective leaks is selective reporting information 888 00:51:40,590 --> 00:51:44,280 he really has. And it could be just the tip of the iceberg. So 889 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:49,050 in very select moments, it seems to inflict kind of maximum 890 00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:52,110 controversy. Yeah, who's doing that you 891 00:51:52,110 --> 00:51:52,680 did 892 00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:56,370 maximum damage to us prestige over the world, we could see in 893 00:51:56,370 --> 00:51:59,280 the coming weeks and months, even more programmes, we really 894 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,670 have no idea how much information he has, or what's 895 00:52:02,670 --> 00:52:05,340 going to be linked. But we have so called proxy, what's 896 00:52:05,340 --> 00:52:08,400 going to be linked to so called proxies and listen, what's going 897 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,100 to do the so called their proxies. I love this what's 898 00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:15,030 going to be linked linked by his so called proxies how 899 00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:18,540 much information he has or what's going to be linked by his 900 00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:19,410 so called proxy 901 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,350 interesting this so called proxy ledger, so called 902 00:52:22,350 --> 00:52:26,010 their proxies. Today interest Why is it so called What did it 903 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,640 because they're not proxies at all? They're agents of the US 904 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,280 government's buying mechanism. I mean, you guys what you 905 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,150 indicating 906 00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:38,370 you got me man, you got me this is I was intrigued by that. Now, 907 00:52:38,370 --> 00:52:42,630 I can tell you where all the data is going to go. That's 908 00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:49,770 pretty much clear now. There's a Chicago company know called 909 00:52:49,770 --> 00:52:58,080 clever safe. A clever safe is it's one of its main investors 910 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:04,260 you can already imagine. Thank you tell. Oh, yeah, dogs, of 911 00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:07,740 course, is the intelligence arms, the venture capital 912 00:53:07,740 --> 00:53:11,850 company, on the board of Cleversafe. We have former NSA, 913 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:18,810 former CIA. This is this is where it's all going to go. So 914 00:53:18,810 --> 00:53:21,930 everyone's already on the board, everything's all ramped up and 915 00:53:21,930 --> 00:53:24,450 ready to go. And you can just you can just wait for this to 916 00:53:24,450 --> 00:53:27,600 happen. Which, by the way, it's not that I don't think there's 917 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,230 anything above or below board with that. It's just what it is. 918 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,580 But again, it's a Chicago connection. It's a whole bunch 919 00:53:35,580 --> 00:53:37,920 of intelligence people. And that's where they're going to 920 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,930 store your infant and a lot of this clever, safe outfit. They 921 00:53:42,930 --> 00:53:46,590 already have a lot of public data running on their system. 922 00:53:46,590 --> 00:53:52,710 They're the ones that can do the the 10 exabyte storage if you've 923 00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:56,850 ever read about these guys, oh, yeah, they've got let me see 924 00:53:57,060 --> 00:53:59,220 anything. It's an interesting operation. Let me see what it 925 00:53:59,220 --> 00:54:01,050 says yeah, so here here's 926 00:54:01,890 --> 00:54:06,480 getting clever, clever safe. Now Cleversafe doesn't really do 927 00:54:06,510 --> 00:54:10,680 direct to consumer themselves, but they work with for instance, 928 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,480 they are the data storage for data utility data utility has 929 00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:19,740 all the way like data tilt it has all of semantics business 930 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,770 has, well there's weather bug and yeah, there's a lot of 931 00:54:25,770 --> 00:54:31,830 customer centric stuff. NET app. Let's see who else do they do 932 00:54:31,830 --> 00:54:35,850 business with? They do business with pen Zuora so they really 933 00:54:35,850 --> 00:54:40,890 are a a wholesale data storage company. And they sell off to 934 00:54:40,890 --> 00:54:45,480 let's see, okay, so California State University healthcare 935 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,010 Realty DreamWorks Animation Relativity Media. So they got a 936 00:54:50,010 --> 00:54:55,530 lot of data already knew and you have to ask is, you know, if 937 00:54:55,530 --> 00:54:59,580 you're going to centralise all of the meta data, and you're 938 00:54:59,580 --> 00:55:04,470 going to have But with a third party. Do you want it to be 939 00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:06,840 someone who has all this other data as well? 940 00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:12,300 I would say no, that's intelligence data. Yeah. Well, I 941 00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:14,190 don't like mixing these things up like that. 942 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,760 And also the way they the way their technology works, is they 943 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,980 split up the data and then ship it to data centres. In different 944 00:55:23,010 --> 00:55:25,410 physical locations. encrypted. 945 00:55:26,190 --> 00:55:31,950 Data is expanded virtualized, transformed, sliced, slice and 946 00:55:31,950 --> 00:55:36,060 dispersed using information dispersal algorithms. Yeah. 947 00:55:38,550 --> 00:55:42,570 slices are distributed to separate discs, storage nodes 948 00:55:42,570 --> 00:55:46,620 and geographic locations. Yeah. Yeah. What happens when one of 949 00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:47,730 the locations goes down? 950 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,160 Well, this is kind of my thought is, you know, the how well I 951 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,240 don't know. And then how much 952 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:54,810 redundancy is there? There can't be more than 100. I made use of 953 00:55:54,810 --> 00:55:58,680 triple redundancy. That would be okay. But I doubt it. I don't 954 00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,640 know. I don't know. 955 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,890 I'm just to say I'm just pointing it out. You'll be 956 00:56:01,890 --> 00:56:04,140 hearing about Cleversafe it seems like those will be the 957 00:56:04,140 --> 00:56:09,810 guys. Meanwhile, Greg green rod on Raph he is going to deliver 958 00:56:09,810 --> 00:56:14,430 the keynote at the computer chaos club in Germany. coming up 959 00:56:14,430 --> 00:56:19,890 in January. This is where the all the spies hang out now. This 960 00:56:19,890 --> 00:56:23,010 is what Apple bomb was a part of this is what Poydras is a part 961 00:56:23,010 --> 00:56:26,580 of this is what that little hottie from WikiLeaks. They're 962 00:56:26,580 --> 00:56:29,760 all over there in Berlin, all hanging out in Germany, all part 963 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:35,220 of the Kaos computing club. Glenn Greenwald also slated to 964 00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:37,680 keynote at South by Southwest. 965 00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:40,110 Oh, you can go over and get his autograph. 966 00:56:43,230 --> 00:56:49,500 Yeah, I could. I to wind it appears that Dennis Blair. 967 00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:53,130 Dennis Blair was the Director of National Intelligence for I 968 00:56:53,130 --> 00:56:57,210 believe, for the Obama administration prior to clapper. 969 00:56:58,110 --> 00:57:02,310 And of course, Blair, by definition, you really can't 970 00:57:02,310 --> 00:57:05,490 interview him. Because of his lifelong non disclosure 971 00:57:05,490 --> 00:57:09,000 agreement, which all of these guys have to why he's even being 972 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,750 questioned on the air is beyond me, because he can't sit if he 973 00:57:12,750 --> 00:57:16,680 says anything. If he even acknowledges classified 974 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,320 documents that have been leaked, he can go to jail. 975 00:57:19,470 --> 00:57:23,160 Yeah, let's go over this again. And we actually both looked over 976 00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:26,580 one of the typical spy documents which are out there that you 977 00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:28,860 have to sign if you want to do any business, even as a 978 00:57:28,860 --> 00:57:32,880 contractor. And it is a lifelong commitment. And you can be 979 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,610 arrested and thrown in the slammer if you violate his 980 00:57:35,610 --> 00:57:39,630 nondisclosure. And there is one way out they can the head of the 981 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,890 Vegas, the CIA, or one of these operations can sign a letter and 982 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,760 absolve you of your commitment. Yes, I don't know that that's 983 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:52,410 ever going to happen now. But it's in there. And so and so 984 00:57:52,410 --> 00:57:55,950 essentially, and we had we had to remind people, this simple 985 00:57:55,950 --> 00:58:00,750 thing, and you hear when you listen to C span a lot. If Glenn 986 00:58:00,750 --> 00:58:03,900 Greenwald reveal something that's classified, like the 987 00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:06,870 slide that shows Microsoft and all these guys in bed with the 988 00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:11,910 NSA, and it remains classified, even though it's in the public 989 00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:15,930 domain. Yep. So in other words, you know about it, I know about 990 00:58:15,930 --> 00:58:19,680 it. But the guy who signed that document still has to pretend 991 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,670 he's never seen it. 992 00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:24,030 And he's not even allowed to go to the website that portrays it. 993 00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:24,840 Right? 994 00:58:24,930 --> 00:58:28,080 He can't do any of that. So he can't ask smart, intelligent 995 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,280 questions, because as far as he's concerned by law, that is 996 00:58:32,310 --> 00:58:35,610 all not to be discussing. He's not even supposed to know about 997 00:58:35,610 --> 00:58:35,730 it. 998 00:58:35,850 --> 00:58:39,300 Well, in this case, Dennis Blair is not the journalist like John 999 00:58:39,300 --> 00:58:42,450 Miller, who by the way, is going to the New York Police 1000 00:58:42,450 --> 00:58:43,140 Department. 1001 00:58:44,250 --> 00:58:47,820 Right? Nice little no Miller's just essentially a revolving 1002 00:58:47,820 --> 00:58:52,290 signed off security cleared cop that shouldn't have ever done 1003 00:58:52,290 --> 00:58:53,340 that piece. So Blair 1004 00:58:53,340 --> 00:58:57,660 is on with Fareed Zakaria. Oh, god, yes. And so just bear in 1005 00:58:57,660 --> 00:59:00,600 mind that Dennis Blair cannot tell the truth. 1006 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:05,160 Let's, let's remind the public listeners that three of the 1007 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,360 producers that Fareed Zakaria is does not like the Constitution 1008 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,400 says we should have a constitutional convention and 1009 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:12,540 redo the whole thing. 1010 00:59:12,690 --> 00:59:17,040 Yes. And he always has private meetings with the President. one 1011 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,740 on ones just to discuss strategy. 1012 00:59:20,339 --> 00:59:23,639 I don't I don't see anything wrong with putting in additional 1013 00:59:23,729 --> 00:59:26,459 checks and balances on the FISA court along the lines that have 1014 00:59:26,459 --> 00:59:31,889 been suggested. But, you know, for the main thing that I looked 1015 00:59:31,889 --> 00:59:35,909 for in the programme was whether actual harm was done to an 1016 00:59:35,939 --> 00:59:40,949 innocent American by the by the programme, has anybody lost a 1017 00:59:40,949 --> 00:59:46,829 job been harassed by the FBI? Been? Yeah, from from doing 1018 00:59:46,829 --> 00:59:50,189 something as a result of the programme any innocent American? 1019 00:59:50,189 --> 00:59:51,149 And the answer is no, 1020 00:59:51,180 --> 00:59:56,340 isn't that Yes. No, no, no, no, it's unbelievable how violating 1021 00:59:56,340 --> 00:59:59,100 your constitutional rights is just seen as Oh, you weren't 1022 00:59:59,100 --> 01:00:01,710 hurt where you were? wasn't what was the problem? You weren't 1023 01:00:01,710 --> 01:00:02,130 hurt? 1024 01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:07,470 What about the people that were set up to do with various 1025 01:00:07,470 --> 01:00:10,620 entrapment schemes? They're hurt? Yeah, they have to go to 1026 01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:14,790 court or their lives are ruined. There's plenty of evidence that 1027 01:00:14,790 --> 01:00:17,040 did this has happened over and over and they're doubted 1028 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,870 claiming this has never happened. Well, 1029 01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:21,030 if you were worried Fareed Zakaria, I'm sure you would 1030 01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:22,980 intervene immediately and say this. 1031 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:25,890 Right. Yeah, I 1032 01:00:25,890 --> 01:00:30,060 would none of those have come to light. All the concern is about 1033 01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:36,690 the possibility of misuse of this information by the the 1034 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,480 National Security Agency in the intelligence committees. My 1035 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:44,730 experience is that information is not misused. And that, that 1036 01:00:44,730 --> 01:00:47,430 having it available to efficiently check to see whether 1037 01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:51,510 a foreigner who has been identified as a potential 1038 01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:55,890 terrorist has called an American phone number, is a useful check, 1039 01:00:56,100 --> 01:01:00,420 and in fact, has helped us toward some attacks. Oh, really. 1040 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,050 Senator Wyden says that it's pretty clear now that the phone 1041 01:01:04,050 --> 01:01:07,830 logging programme that the NSA uses this big data mining 1042 01:01:07,830 --> 01:01:11,700 programme did not in fact stop any terrorist attacks that the 1043 01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:15,210 the committees the advisory panels report a makes that 1044 01:01:15,210 --> 01:01:17,370 clear. Excuse me. 1045 01:01:19,290 --> 01:01:20,310 Alright, pay attention. 1046 01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:23,940 Because before you go on the other guy who what's this guy 1047 01:01:23,940 --> 01:01:28,110 this talking as Akari. Again, he you notice the way he talks? 1048 01:01:28,110 --> 01:01:33,210 It's, it's just stop and go borderline stutter? Only there's 1049 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,180 there's silence because he's, he's working in words. 1050 01:01:36,210 --> 01:01:38,850 Yeah, he's choosing his words very choosing his words very 1051 01:01:38,850 --> 01:01:41,460 carefully. For some reason. He also didn't want to say NSA, he 1052 01:01:41,460 --> 01:01:43,200 said National Security Agency, 1053 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,100 gonna say NSA, and then he decided, I'm not sure why 1054 01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:48,090 reason. Yeah. 1055 01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:51,090 Anyway, so here he is. Now. Now he's going to start the new 1056 01:01:51,090 --> 01:01:54,990 narrative. Because this we all now know that this metadata 1057 01:01:54,990 --> 01:01:58,020 programme resulted in no thwarting of terrorist attacks, 1058 01:01:58,020 --> 01:02:00,240 and he is now going to say it did 1059 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:01,320 your reaction. 1060 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,570 I think that's incorrect, I would say the Nagi bola Zazie. 1061 01:02:07,530 --> 01:02:12,840 Plan plans to set off a number of bombs in the New York City 1062 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:18,120 subways in 2009, on the pattern of the 2005 London attacks, and 1063 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:23,340 I know that the information gathered by NSA under this 1064 01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:27,780 programme was a key factor and tipping us off as to what Zazie 1065 01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:30,390 was up to. And he was subsequently stopped before he 1066 01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:34,410 could do it. So I just think that's incorrect intelligence. 1067 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:40,440 And this is an F, this was an FBI sting. And so let's go back 1068 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,870 to think about what Rogers was saying about how pissed off he 1069 01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:45,300 was that there was no that didn't talk to the FBI in the 1070 01:02:45,300 --> 01:02:48,120 report. This is what they're now doing, there's going to be an 1071 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,310 amendment to this report is something's going to happen 1072 01:02:50,310 --> 01:02:55,470 because they need to prove that this that this NSA metadata 1073 01:02:55,470 --> 01:02:59,250 programme does result in saving the American people from being 1074 01:02:59,250 --> 01:03:01,830 blowed up. And so they are recruiting. So it's going to be 1075 01:03:01,830 --> 01:03:06,510 this certainly this specific instance, and where he gets away 1076 01:03:06,510 --> 01:03:12,000 saying, modelled on the London seven seven bombings, really one 1077 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,170 guy versus like seven guys, and they happen to be a drill with 1078 01:03:16,170 --> 01:03:20,640 the exact same pinpoint locations. Really. That's what 1079 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,750 you're going to pin this on Dennis Blair. To you watch this, 1080 01:03:24,750 --> 01:03:26,910 you watch this, this, this come to the forefront, 1081 01:03:26,910 --> 01:03:31,410 a lot of different indicators put together when done well to 1082 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,340 find what's going on. And this programme has contributed to 1083 01:03:35,340 --> 01:03:38,040 that. And I believe it's constitutional. So I believe it 1084 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,240 should continue. Now, I'm not 1085 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,270 sure if he says it in this next clip. But the whole idea of the 1086 01:03:42,270 --> 01:03:44,730 recommendations of the report, which of course the no agenda 1087 01:03:44,730 --> 01:03:47,280 show is one of the few actually read the report and told you 1088 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:54,540 what's really in it. Is there is a provision, if so the idea is 1089 01:03:54,540 --> 01:03:57,420 all that all the metadata will be stored by a third party, 1090 01:03:57,420 --> 01:04:00,510 private third party, because that's really what they're 1091 01:04:00,510 --> 01:04:03,060 pushing for, not for everyone keeping it themselves. So that 1092 01:04:03,060 --> 01:04:06,480 would be clever, safe. And then you would they would have to get 1093 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,980 a warrant in order to do anything with this metadata and 1094 01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:14,970 unless oops, unless, of course there's imminent harm to the 1095 01:04:14,970 --> 01:04:18,750 American people being blowed up, then the Attorney General can 1096 01:04:18,750 --> 01:04:22,560 sign off on it and they can get the warrant later. The attorney 1097 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,140 general of course, being Eric Holder by himself can say you 1098 01:04:25,140 --> 01:04:26,910 can just say yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead, go 1099 01:04:26,910 --> 01:04:30,300 ahead. And they can do it almost like high frequency high 1100 01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:33,750 frequency trading. And then they can go back and get the warrant 1101 01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:37,260 later. It's just it's it's just solidifying the entire spine 1102 01:04:37,260 --> 01:04:41,310 programme, making it easier and giving some Chicago Boys some 1103 01:04:41,310 --> 01:04:42,810 nice coin at the same time. 1104 01:04:42,930 --> 01:04:45,990 I do believe and I tried when I was director of national 1105 01:04:45,990 --> 01:04:52,980 intelligence to talk more openly about this, this programme. I 1106 01:04:52,980 --> 01:04:57,120 think we can do that without without talking about specific 1107 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,970 details which which are what have to be kept secret and I 1108 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,420 think that this administration has done a bad job of explaining 1109 01:05:03,420 --> 01:05:05,970 it. And had we done it from an early stage from the time that I 1110 01:05:05,970 --> 01:05:10,590 was DNI on, then why these revelations would have been less 1111 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,610 shocking shouldn't have fired me bow. I think a couple of things 1112 01:05:14,610 --> 01:05:18,990 are worth mentioning though. The scale of these programmes is 1113 01:05:18,990 --> 01:05:23,310 large because the scale of communications is large and and 1114 01:05:23,310 --> 01:05:26,400 there are billions of phone calls, emails, tweets and other 1115 01:05:26,670 --> 01:05:28,260 transit communication being made. 1116 01:05:28,290 --> 01:05:29,400 Look out for them tweets, 1117 01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:33,060 the tweets can be dangerous all over the world. So in order to 1118 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,230 try to find ones that are being made by those hostile to the 1119 01:05:37,260 --> 01:05:40,620 United States, it will require big programmes, large computers, 1120 01:05:40,650 --> 01:05:44,910 lots of lots of data. So is it a question of scale? Not a 1121 01:05:44,910 --> 01:05:47,340 question of principle? It's just 1122 01:05:47,340 --> 01:05:52,290 a question of scale, not print, screw principles. You and your 1123 01:05:52,290 --> 01:05:55,830 tweets can go twat off. It's not about principles. It's about 1124 01:05:55,830 --> 01:06:02,070 scale, baby, get those Chicago Boys in here clever save. Oh, 1125 01:06:02,190 --> 01:06:08,790 yeah, so that was that was my pre Christmas round up of 1126 01:06:09,570 --> 01:06:10,620 douchebags. 1127 01:06:11,460 --> 01:06:15,510 Well, I kind of stayed domestic in my little job of research and 1128 01:06:15,510 --> 01:06:19,050 came up with a very turned up and very interesting couple of 1129 01:06:19,050 --> 01:06:19,470 things. 1130 01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:22,620 But before we do that, if you don't mind since we're going to 1131 01:06:22,620 --> 01:06:28,260 switch gears. I would like to of course, in one of our last shows 1132 01:06:28,260 --> 01:06:31,890 of 2013. Sincerely John like to thank 1133 01:06:32,190 --> 01:06:34,860 him isn't this this? Isn't this actually our last show? 1134 01:06:36,750 --> 01:06:38,550 We have a show on Sunday. No. 1135 01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:44,610 Oh, right. Saturday, Sunday. Late I Sunday will be our last 1136 01:06:44,610 --> 01:06:44,910 show 1137 01:06:44,910 --> 01:06:49,650 Sunday October of 2013. But regardless of I just want to 1138 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,550 thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John. 1139 01:06:53,550 --> 01:06:53,640 Good 1140 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,940 morning to you and thank you for your courage Mr. Adam curry, as 1141 01:06:57,300 --> 01:06:59,400 also I'd like to say in the morning to all the boots on the 1142 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,770 ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the names and 1143 01:07:01,770 --> 01:07:03,990 all the nights as a matter of fact out there. 1144 01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:06,330 Yes. And in the morning everyone in the chat room showed up no 1145 01:07:06,330 --> 01:07:09,090 agenda stream.com no agenda chat.net thank you especially 1146 01:07:09,090 --> 01:07:11,610 people over there in Europe who do celebrate the second day of 1147 01:07:11,610 --> 01:07:15,780 Christmas as if it's an actual holiday or boxing days you might 1148 01:07:15,780 --> 01:07:19,500 have and get my nation East boxing day thank you also to our 1149 01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:22,440 artists air exemple have provided us with the art for 1150 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,920 episode 576 highly appreciate it was a good one with Little Mac 1151 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,980 and Cheese Christmas ball. Everybody. Everybody liked that 1152 01:07:28,980 --> 01:07:33,780 little Christmas ornament that worked out very well. And no 1153 01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:36,330 agenda art generator.com is where we will be looking for the 1154 01:07:36,330 --> 01:07:39,450 art for this episode, which with a little luck should show up. 1155 01:07:39,540 --> 01:07:41,610 When you play the show on 1156 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,570 we're not going to run any of the art that has a vagina or 1157 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,870 just you know, that already is always some guy that does some 1158 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,920 art. Did that already start to come through? No, it hasn't. But 1159 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,270 I can see it I can see okay. 1160 01:07:56,100 --> 01:08:00,420 Well, we might save it as evergreen. 1161 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:07,890 Yeah, sure. Evergreen, yeah. Like the idea of green a vagina 1162 01:08:07,890 --> 01:08:12,630 being the same sentence. We do a few people thank for producing 1163 01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:15,930 the show. Everyone has produced the show but we do have 1164 01:08:15,930 --> 01:08:18,450 executive producers and Associate Executive producers. 1165 01:08:19,140 --> 01:08:24,060 For 577 we have three four executive producers and it all 1166 01:08:24,060 --> 01:08:26,850 came in with the exact same amount of money which is always 1167 01:08:26,850 --> 01:08:29,940 weird but part of the random number theory and a couple of 1168 01:08:29,940 --> 01:08:34,770 associates and we'll start with James Dobler from Wylie Texas 1169 01:08:34,770 --> 01:08:38,970 for $333.33 Hi John and Adam first time donor here figured to 1170 01:08:38,970 --> 01:08:43,290 be a good time to toss some of my Christmas bonus your way Oh 1171 01:08:43,290 --> 01:08:45,990 wow. Thank you for your courage and another year of 1172 01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:49,530 deconstruction. He needs a D douching and a dose of karma 1173 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:58,830 absolutely you've been de deuced got karma is like a first first 1174 01:08:58,830 --> 01:09:02,550 time guide coming in is executive producer nice your 1175 01:09:02,550 --> 01:09:05,100 buddy down the street it was actually looking at you with 1176 01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:07,680 binoculars as we speak sir Jean and Juliet 1177 01:09:07,740 --> 01:09:14,070 ah the the Baron de Marriott the VI counter I keep forgetting his 1178 01:09:14,190 --> 01:09:15,030 his titles 1179 01:09:15,660 --> 01:09:18,600 yes yes some titles he's in Austin I'm gonna go like I said 1180 01:09:19,050 --> 01:09:22,860 as we speak Happy Holidays go buy some ammo Atlas Shrugged 1181 01:09:26,790 --> 01:09:32,130 by Iran we're going we're going shooting on Friday with oh yes 1182 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,780 with the girls and Sir Jean is 1183 01:09:34,890 --> 01:09:37,290 the accidental shooting when I knew was going to end somehow 1184 01:09:37,290 --> 01:09:37,410 But 1185 01:09:37,410 --> 01:09:40,350 now Now I see what he's doing. He's like yeah, I'll go shooting 1186 01:09:40,350 --> 01:09:46,800 with accidental shooting. Thanks. No, no, he even wants me 1187 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,500 to buy the ammo and most expensive 1188 01:09:50,010 --> 01:09:53,970 Oh, especially on some of those big guns. Yeah, it's a good I'd 1189 01:09:53,970 --> 01:09:58,260 love to go shooting if somebody buys the ammo. The I'm by he 1190 01:09:58,260 --> 01:10:01,200 can't be won't buy his own damage. So you're the 333 You're 1191 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:06,180 gonna have to spend 200 of it. Buying ama eight girls were some 1192 01:10:06,180 --> 01:10:08,640 of those bullets are $1 apiece I know. 1193 01:10:09,450 --> 01:10:13,950 Oh, at least today girls we're gonna go shooting we all get to 1194 01:10:13,950 --> 01:10:18,960 shoot once surging Baron de Marriott sheriff of Texas there 1195 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:19,290 we go. 1196 01:10:19,620 --> 01:10:23,100 Sheriff attack sir Hank meanwhile from Kew Gardens New 1197 01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:28,830 York also 333 33 He's topping up his monthly $33.33 monthly 1198 01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:32,280 donation which a lot of people have by the way they do to reach 1199 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,820 Baron net hood. Yep. And credited as such. 1200 01:10:36,270 --> 01:10:39,450 Happy holidays. Thank you for your courage karma, please. 1201 01:10:39,480 --> 01:10:47,820 Absolutely. You've got karma. There Oh, John whitened Jackson, 1202 01:10:47,850 --> 01:10:52,350 Tennessee 333 33 I have decided to make a final end of the year 1203 01:10:52,350 --> 01:10:55,800 non tax deductible donation which is what it is correct? 1204 01:10:55,830 --> 01:11:01,590 Yeah, we're not a phoney baloney operation. We pay our taxes best 1205 01:11:01,590 --> 01:11:05,820 podcast in the universe inspired by a numerological 1225 13 1206 01:11:05,820 --> 01:11:08,580 donation by the Grand Duke on 1222. I was going to donate 1207 01:11:08,580 --> 01:11:14,910 inkind using the European date system of of 2512 13 But then I 1208 01:11:14,910 --> 01:11:19,350 thought now I don't want to copy the Grand Duke. So is that a 1209 01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:25,350 given $2,500.03 Very. So you have to settle for the small 1210 01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:27,960 donation I want to wish karma to both of you and your families. 1211 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,500 I'd like to wish a no conflict for 2014 Thank you for your 1212 01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:34,770 courage in the morning. Sir Barry so he needs a thank you 1213 01:11:34,770 --> 01:11:39,510 for your courage no conflict and in the morning Baron Dr. Sharkey 1214 01:11:39,810 --> 01:11:43,170 attack of the Great Smoky Mountains now we 1215 01:11:43,170 --> 01:11:48,660 don't have a thank you for your courage. We just have a no 1216 01:11:48,660 --> 01:11:51,360 conflict in the morning and I'll give him some karma fresh just 1217 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:57,960 for good measure. There's no real conflict you've got karma 1218 01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:58,290 we go. 1219 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,080 Where do we get thank you for your courage if we don't have a 1220 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:04,500 clip? 1221 01:12:05,670 --> 01:12:08,940 I think we just were talking about how everyone says that and 1222 01:12:08,940 --> 01:12:11,700 then we just started picking it up. I was like, thank you now. 1223 01:12:11,940 --> 01:12:14,040 Everyone's thank you for your service. And we're just gonna 1224 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,170 say thank you for your courage and there's no clip it's just 1225 01:12:16,170 --> 01:12:19,470 one of those things that cropped up on the show. I don't know. 1226 01:12:21,210 --> 01:12:26,250 Sir Michael Miller $201 vite count of MYRIN then he has a 1227 01:12:26,250 --> 01:12:29,910 donation note because he gave us also gives $111.11 so he can 1228 01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:32,550 call out one of his friends to the stage. 1229 01:12:32,580 --> 01:12:34,680 Are we doing that today? Are we doing to make it rain in a 1230 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,280 segment? 1231 01:12:35,490 --> 01:12:38,580 i Yes, I do have there's enough room to do what I've got for 1232 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,970 Okay, I got a couple from last week. I'm just teasing this 1233 01:12:41,970 --> 01:12:47,220 Tracy and Inga may also Lily said to nice was actually a 1234 01:12:47,250 --> 01:12:50,490 animais poster. And then Sabine 1235 01:12:51,180 --> 01:12:52,980 oh yes of course. Okay. 1236 01:12:54,150 --> 01:13:00,360 They're all going to come up and strip. We wish finally Nicholas 1237 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,890 Prince seep in Raleigh, North Carolina beautiful town $200 In 1238 01:13:04,890 --> 01:13:08,430 the morning yells dedication to the shoulder no matter what 1239 01:13:08,430 --> 01:13:12,720 deserves some Christmas slash New Year's donations. Your 1240 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,240 dedication to this show no matter what oh, that means no 1241 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,270 matter what. In other words we working on there should be a 1242 01:13:18,270 --> 01:13:22,260 holiday. If possible. I'd like some William Hague protect their 1243 01:13:22,260 --> 01:13:26,070 freedoms karma. Yep. Oh, there you got it. That's great. Yeah, 1244 01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:27,090 play that. Okay. 1245 01:13:29,370 --> 01:13:33,510 intelligence work takes place within a strong legal framework. 1246 01:13:34,140 --> 01:13:38,700 We operate under the rule of law and are accountable for it. In 1247 01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:41,880 southern countries secret intelligence is used to control 1248 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:46,140 the people in ours. It only exists to protect their 1249 01:13:46,140 --> 01:13:51,390 freedoms, protect their freedom, protect their freedom use that 1250 01:13:51,570 --> 01:13:52,200 karma. 1251 01:13:54,780 --> 01:13:57,720 If there was a clip of the year that would be it. 1252 01:13:57,929 --> 01:14:01,889 Someone you know someone I love that clip. Someone's and by the 1253 01:14:01,889 --> 01:14:04,709 way, this is actually this is William Hague, the Secretary of 1254 01:14:04,739 --> 01:14:08,399 the foreign state secretary Minister of Foreign Minister 1255 01:14:08,399 --> 01:14:13,349 Gitmo East spawn. I just thought I spun him down like 8% and 1256 01:14:13,349 --> 01:14:16,349 added the add a little bit of echo there just to show you how 1257 01:14:16,349 --> 01:14:20,609 easy it is to make him really creepy. I think you had to do 1258 01:14:20,609 --> 01:14:24,719 that much. Someone suggested that we do like a clip of the 1259 01:14:24,719 --> 01:14:28,289 year a donation note of the year and all this stuff for the year 1260 01:14:28,289 --> 01:14:31,169 right there. Right. But I said we don't have time to do this. 1261 01:14:31,169 --> 01:14:35,369 This is This is why when there's no news because there's no press 1262 01:14:35,369 --> 01:14:40,139 releases coming out because all the the the PR firms are closed 1263 01:14:40,139 --> 01:14:42,869 for the holidays. That's why you get all these retrospectives. 1264 01:14:43,529 --> 01:14:46,139 But now on the best podcast in the universe, there's always 1265 01:14:46,169 --> 01:14:50,069 there's always something going on that we can report on. Yes. 1266 01:14:50,849 --> 01:14:55,559 So these are very real credits. They are executive producers and 1267 01:14:55,559 --> 01:14:58,769 Associate Executive producers. That's why you get mentioned at 1268 01:14:58,769 --> 01:15:01,739 a in a separate spot at the top After the show, well, kind of 1269 01:15:01,739 --> 01:15:03,959 the top of the show, but still isn't in a separate spot. The 1270 01:15:03,959 --> 01:15:07,919 notes are always read in full. And We highly appreciate the 1271 01:15:08,249 --> 01:15:11,759 support that we receive. And of course, these credits are usable 1272 01:15:11,759 --> 01:15:15,059 and valid anywhere that credit credits are, are taken, and are 1273 01:15:15,059 --> 01:15:17,879 accepted. And we hear that putting them on your LinkedIn 1274 01:15:17,879 --> 01:15:25,739 account works very, very well. And as this kind of it's kind of 1275 01:15:26,279 --> 01:15:31,769 bittersweet news. Professor Ross, the official brain 1276 01:15:32,219 --> 01:15:36,839 professor of the no agenda show, he has accepted a job and tenure 1277 01:15:36,839 --> 01:15:37,859 at Stanford. 1278 01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:42,210 He did, he took the Stanford job 1279 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,960 he did, yeah. And he said, he said, I got a great deal. And I 1280 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,740 didn't need a stupid agent, which was obviously a poke in 1281 01:15:49,740 --> 01:15:54,390 our eye. Because I'm gonna go straight for it. But he said 1282 01:15:54,390 --> 01:15:56,520 he would have gotten a better deal with an agent, but that's 1283 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:56,760 okay. 1284 01:15:56,969 --> 01:16:00,749 But he says he will continue to list official brain professor of 1285 01:16:00,749 --> 01:16:06,209 the no agenda show on his LinkedIn profile. So he's got 1286 01:16:06,210 --> 01:16:07,830 that on that really. So he says. 1287 01:16:10,350 --> 01:16:12,240 He said, he actually there's something I got to talk about 1288 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,900 later on that he sent me which is kind of mind boggling. So we 1289 01:16:15,900 --> 01:16:18,930 will have a thank you segment coming up, we think everyone 1290 01:16:18,930 --> 01:16:22,680 over $50 or more as as to protect the identity of those 1291 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,220 who do not wish to be known. And of course, our weekly and 1292 01:16:26,220 --> 01:16:28,650 monthly donors. Thank you again, to our executive producer, 1293 01:16:28,650 --> 01:16:33,960 Associate Executive producers. That is very nice. Very nice as 1294 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:39,480 a little Christmas gift to have some 30 threes in there. Do you 1295 01:16:39,480 --> 01:16:41,430 want to tell people where they can find out more about you? No, 1296 01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:41,520 I 1297 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,790 think if they go to no agenda show.com no agenda nation.com 1298 01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:47,670 There's a button you can push but also the main site 1299 01:16:47,670 --> 01:16:53,220 dvorak.org/na N alternatively channelled of org.com/n A and 1300 01:16:53,220 --> 01:16:56,880 you can help us for the next show, which is 578. And if 1301 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,010 that's not an important number, I don't know what is 1302 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:04,320 vorak.org/and. And of course, we always appreciate you going out 1303 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,020 there spreading the word by propagating our formula our 1304 01:17:07,020 --> 01:17:11,490 formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth 1305 01:17:27,900 --> 01:17:31,110 yeah, professors so we had a little get together a little 1306 01:17:31,140 --> 01:17:35,970 meet the kids type party on a Thursday kid. No, Sunday. I'm 1307 01:17:35,970 --> 01:17:39,600 sorry. What's today? Today is Thursday. Yeah, Sunday after the 1308 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,170 show. Okay. And it's just you know, the friends who were in 1309 01:17:43,170 --> 01:17:46,620 town came by to the professor came by and and he said, Oh, we 1310 01:17:46,620 --> 01:17:55,470 got news. Now. Okay, thanks. He also gave me a document which I 1311 01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:58,230 he was, he just was, well, first of all, everyone was drunk. So 1312 01:17:58,230 --> 01:18:02,370 I'm like, What are you talking about? He says that there's an 1313 01:18:02,370 --> 01:18:04,320 this document from a couple of years ago put it in the show 1314 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:09,000 notes 577 dot na shownotes.com and it shows how the scientific 1315 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:14,400 community is in agreement that forensics are not really 1316 01:18:14,820 --> 01:18:18,840 admissible in court when it comes to fingerprints. junks, 1317 01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:23,340 it's junk science says it's complete junk science. Your I 1318 01:18:23,340 --> 01:18:24,240 didn't know this. 1319 01:18:24,629 --> 01:18:30,149 Oh, yeah. In fact, JC buzzkill Jr. There's about a year ago and 1320 01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:33,869 he's working on a course he's not a coder, but he likes to 1321 01:18:33,869 --> 01:18:38,429 write and we've been working on detective story, style write 1322 01:18:38,789 --> 01:18:42,569 stories. Yeah, man. So he read so he got all these different 1323 01:18:42,569 --> 01:18:44,609 books about all kinds of foliage, you know, how the 1324 01:18:44,609 --> 01:18:47,279 police stuff supposed to be done? How you're not supposed to 1325 01:18:47,309 --> 01:18:49,739 touch anything at the crime scene, and all the rest of it. 1326 01:18:49,859 --> 01:18:53,399 And he ran into the documents that said this is bullcrap. None 1327 01:18:53,399 --> 01:18:56,849 of this stuff is it's just a it's just a dog and pony show 1328 01:18:56,849 --> 01:18:59,879 just the impressed the jury, which is why no one's ever 1329 01:18:59,879 --> 01:19:01,289 called out on it, which is why you 1330 01:19:01,290 --> 01:19:06,030 rarely see an actual scientist testifying in court. I'll just 1331 01:19:06,030 --> 01:19:08,250 read a couple of it. The whole thing is marked up it's about 1332 01:19:08,250 --> 01:19:11,490 five pages written by Michael J. Sachs and Jonathan J cooler. 1333 01:19:12,150 --> 01:19:14,910 Converging legal and scientific forces are pushing the 1334 01:19:14,910 --> 01:19:17,460 traditional Forensic Identification sciences towards 1335 01:19:17,460 --> 01:19:21,000 fundamental change. The assumption of discernible 1336 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,090 uniqueness that resides at the core of these fields is weakened 1337 01:19:24,090 --> 01:19:27,180 by evidence of error in proficiency testing and an 1338 01:19:27,180 --> 01:19:31,800 actual cases. And of course, this is pushing towards DNA 1339 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,170 typing, which is modelled as scientifically defensible 1340 01:19:34,170 --> 01:19:38,670 approach. And as questioning and driving older forensic sciences 1341 01:19:38,730 --> 01:19:43,560 sciences out. Courts almost never excluded testimony. Cross 1342 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,650 Examination rarely questions the foundations of the asserted 1343 01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,580 expertise or the basis of the analyst certainty today, the 1344 01:19:50,580 --> 01:19:53,520 ones complacent corner of the law and science interface has 1345 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:57,690 begun to unravel. The news carries reports of erroneous 1346 01:19:57,690 --> 01:20:02,190 forensic identifications of hair bullets, handwriting footprints 1347 01:20:02,190 --> 01:20:06,450 bite marks even venerated fingerprints. Scientists have 1348 01:20:06,450 --> 01:20:09,810 started to question the core assumptions of Forensic 1349 01:20:09,810 --> 01:20:16,530 Sciences. And this is from this is from 2005. Yeah. Legal and 1350 01:20:16,530 --> 01:20:19,650 scientific forces are converging to drive an emerging scepticism 1351 01:20:19,650 --> 01:20:21,510 about the claims of the traditional forensic 1352 01:20:21,510 --> 01:20:25,170 individualisation sciences. As a result, the sciences are moving 1353 01:20:25,170 --> 01:20:27,870 towards a new scientific paradigm. And of course, this is 1354 01:20:27,870 --> 01:20:33,960 all moving towards DNA, which I I've always understood DNA to 1355 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,050 have its its issues as well. 1356 01:20:37,650 --> 01:20:41,670 Well, especially if somebody is a Chimaera, which means that 1357 01:20:41,670 --> 01:20:47,370 when they're in the womb before birth, one of the little eggs or 1358 01:20:47,370 --> 01:20:50,160 it's would becomes when it becomes some blood viable, eats 1359 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:54,630 the other one. So you have two sets of two, two sets of DNA, 1360 01:20:54,630 --> 01:20:57,180 that same family resemblance, but you can take the DNA from 1361 01:20:57,180 --> 01:21:01,020 somebody and they won't match, right, some DNA that was used 1362 01:21:01,020 --> 01:21:03,600 for the gap that in other words, an individual, I think this 1363 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:07,260 accounts for a lot of the people who say they've got a woman 1364 01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:11,160 inside them. I think it's literal, I think, I don't see I 1365 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,610 can, I've seen you've seen people that look like they 1366 01:21:14,610 --> 01:21:17,460 should be female, and they're not, you know, and there's, you 1367 01:21:17,460 --> 01:21:17,550 know, 1368 01:21:17,550 --> 01:21:20,430 this is this is this is interesting. The girls were we 1369 01:21:20,430 --> 01:21:26,760 were talking about, oh, it's officially now LGBTQ Qi. So the 1370 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:31,650 acronym down, and I would say LGBTQ Qi, because there will be 1371 01:21:31,650 --> 01:21:35,460 lesbian, gay, bisexual, bi curious, questioning, queer and 1372 01:21:35,460 --> 01:21:39,120 intersex. And I learned two important things in my 1373 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,770 conversations with the experts who are residing here. One, it 1374 01:21:43,770 --> 01:21:47,820 often happens that a transgendered person, so let's 1375 01:21:47,820 --> 01:21:54,630 say we have a gay guy wants to become a woman. And he and he 1376 01:21:54,810 --> 01:21:59,130 becomes a woman. And then is becomes a lesbian. 1377 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,510 Yeah, that does happen. But apparently, 1378 01:22:03,510 --> 01:22:09,240 it happens a lot. Lot. Like it's very common. Which is 1379 01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:13,920 interesting. You know, does that mean that homosexuality in some 1380 01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:18,720 way is mirroring yourself? Or I don't have an answer. Obviously, 1381 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:18,900 it's 1382 01:22:18,900 --> 01:22:20,190 too confusing for me. 1383 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:24,300 Smokes coming out of John's ears at the moment, I don't 1384 01:22:24,300 --> 01:22:28,620 understand it. And the other thing I learned is that gays and 1385 01:22:28,620 --> 01:22:34,860 lesbians are huge bullies against each other. So if 1386 01:22:34,860 --> 01:22:38,370 lesbians go into a gay bar, there'll be more bullying 1387 01:22:38,370 --> 01:22:42,690 against these lesbians in the gay bar than anywhere else. Yet, 1388 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,420 that wouldn't surprise me surprise me either. But it's 1389 01:22:45,420 --> 01:22:49,950 just interesting to note that there's probably more gay hatred 1390 01:22:49,950 --> 01:22:52,920 going on in the gay bar in America than there is in Russia, 1391 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,760 which by the way, holy crap, John, we went to a Christmas 1392 01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,990 drink. Oh, here we go. Yep. Yeah. And this was at the at the 1393 01:23:00,990 --> 01:23:05,730 robots house who could never have a Republican at the dinner 1394 01:23:05,730 --> 01:23:10,110 table. Not that John and I are, but I'm just framing it for you. 1395 01:23:10,830 --> 01:23:15,720 And, and all of a sudden, we were talking about Russia. And I 1396 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,810 was like, Well, you know, the boy, they really hate the gays. 1397 01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:23,880 And I was tired. And so you know, I can't I want well, let 1398 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:29,580 me just say that's not true. Oh, my God, when the host of the 1399 01:23:29,580 --> 01:23:33,720 party is walking away from you, in disgust, that's when you know 1400 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,740 that it's a problem. Because it you know, it's it's, you know, 1401 01:23:37,770 --> 01:23:40,320 there's a white paper and I'm gonna get this to you. And it's 1402 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:46,740 really there's there's more anti gay shenanigans going on in the 1403 01:23:46,740 --> 01:23:49,800 US than in all of Russia. In Russia. You don't have to, you 1404 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,050 know, there was no don't ask, don't tell you could be gay in 1405 01:23:52,050 --> 01:23:55,230 the military is no problem you can adopt without going through 1406 01:23:55,230 --> 01:23:59,640 some rigorous training or door questioning to see oh, if you're 1407 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,310 gay, can you adopt? There's none of that in Russia, none of it. 1408 01:24:02,940 --> 01:24:05,640 But you've been duped by the media and I say the man and it's 1409 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,990 mainly to soak the American media of $30,000 for every 1410 01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:13,590 violation. And by the way, it's only of minors under 13, to 1411 01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:19,770 Prague to propagandise, and an untraditional or non traditional 1412 01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:24,120 lifestyles. This is not like you know, you can't say you're gay 1413 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,390 you can't it's not it's not true that they don't want to believe 1414 01:24:27,390 --> 01:24:29,730 that people don't fucking want to believe it. And then it's 1415 01:24:29,730 --> 01:24:33,330 like well, but that puts me Ryan stuck for two years two years 1416 01:24:33,330 --> 01:24:38,040 put the riot like Don't you see what's going on? Don't you 1417 01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:42,210 understand the propaganda of all of this on both sides? Russia is 1418 01:24:42,210 --> 01:24:49,710 horrible. It no it these are smart smart people love 1419 01:24:49,710 --> 01:24:54,000 Apparently not. Well, it's a it's a Mind Control thing. 1420 01:24:54,030 --> 01:24:58,380 Although I did hear luckily at this dinner, multiple people say 1421 01:24:58,740 --> 01:25:02,880 yeah, I'm really tired of MSNBC and specifically Rachel Maddow 1422 01:25:03,750 --> 01:25:08,700 so good yeah I was very encouraged by that and then of 1423 01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:10,860 course he said well you know Fox is run by Democrats you can 1424 01:25:10,860 --> 01:25:13,680 watch that and then they just like the eyes roll hey go ahead 1425 01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:18,150 and then they keel over and I really I really did not do a 1426 01:25:18,150 --> 01:25:19,140 good job of 1427 01:25:19,620 --> 01:25:20,760 I got a word tired you 1428 01:25:23,430 --> 01:25:25,740 know I wasn't I was on my D game 1429 01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,360 Well that's no good. It was really bad just shut up 1430 01:25:30,630 --> 01:25:32,970 that's what I should have done I should just just smile and go 1431 01:25:32,970 --> 01:25:33,270 yeah 1432 01:25:34,020 --> 01:25:35,850 whatever you think idiot 1433 01:25:37,530 --> 01:25:40,230 now I got to start emailing articles is the same guy who 1434 01:25:40,230 --> 01:25:44,100 said when the towers came down I knew we had the the NSA is doing 1435 01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:47,460 important work. And now you know you're gonna see he's gonna go 1436 01:25:47,460 --> 01:25:53,250 oh, look at this we through the 1995 the 2001 for the whatever 1437 01:25:53,250 --> 01:26:00,690 the haka Maka lucky, modelled on the blue London bombing to 1438 01:26:00,690 --> 01:26:01,890 losing proposition. 1439 01:26:02,490 --> 01:26:05,310 Well, anybody who's comes out of the blue and the first thing you 1440 01:26:05,310 --> 01:26:08,730 learn from them as they won't have dinner with a Republican is 1441 01:26:08,730 --> 01:26:13,350 an obvious bigot. And bigots have a mind that doesn't work 1442 01:26:13,350 --> 01:26:17,040 right, no matter how smart they are. And there's plenty of smart 1443 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:21,060 bigots as it were. But their mind is twisted it to begin 1444 01:26:21,060 --> 01:26:24,210 with, it's like a damaged brain. And so they certain things, 1445 01:26:24,210 --> 01:26:27,120 they're just you don't unscramble part of it. It just 1446 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,160 kind of freaks them out. They get a little weird. I mean, 1447 01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,220 that's one of the things that's great about no agenda listeners, 1448 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:37,140 is they get open. Some I'm sure they did kind of crack potty. If 1449 01:26:37,140 --> 01:26:41,490 you listen to them, then we get the email, but for the most 1450 01:26:41,490 --> 01:26:46,620 part, they will listen to reason. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, 1451 01:26:46,620 --> 01:26:49,200 they're sceptical. It didn't sound like he's sceptical. He's 1452 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,270 just a lock stays a Nazi. 1453 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:59,610 Yeah, there we go. That's all done. End of show. You call them 1454 01:26:59,610 --> 01:27:06,180 a Nazi. Nazi muzzled, quit while we're ahead. I, here's, I went 1455 01:27:06,180 --> 01:27:07,950 down a little, you want to do something because I got a little 1456 01:27:07,950 --> 01:27:08,490 rabbit hole. 1457 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:13,470 This is a little lengthy, but I'm gonna do it. So I'm, I'm 1458 01:27:13,470 --> 01:27:16,170 gonna give you the how I got into this. This is the first 1459 01:27:16,170 --> 01:27:19,830 thing is going to involve four clips. That got me into what I'm 1460 01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:24,900 going to reveal which is showing again, the media accompanies and 1461 01:27:24,900 --> 01:27:29,280 many famous websites that we compete with, completely 1462 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,580 dropping the ball on his butt. So we got an email from a guy 1463 01:27:32,580 --> 01:27:36,360 says, oh, you should look into the free freedom club of 1464 01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:39,750 Berkeley. Because they do lie detectors as a bunch of spoons. 1465 01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,570 You were able to read that email. I looked at that email. I 1466 01:27:42,570 --> 01:27:43,830 went what? 1467 01:27:44,910 --> 01:27:48,630 I decided I'm in Berkeley, so I decided to type in freedom club. 1468 01:27:48,750 --> 01:27:51,480 There's nothing on the internet about this at all. But I did run 1469 01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:53,550 into the freedom club of the United States. 1470 01:27:53,820 --> 01:27:57,960 And he because he referenced Ted Kaczynski Yeah, the union bomber 1471 01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:02,370 and he's but email was weird. John was like, don't propagate 1472 01:28:02,370 --> 01:28:05,310 Kaczynski freedom club Berkeley. But 1473 01:28:05,340 --> 01:28:08,550 yeah, it was weird. But I did a little at least I looked into it 1474 01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:10,980 but then I stumbled onto something completely different. 1475 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,690 So it triggered that because you're gonna wonder Well, what I 1476 01:28:15,690 --> 01:28:20,250 got I got okay. So free. The free club of the United States 1477 01:28:20,250 --> 01:28:23,340 of America is it appears to me to be a pyramid scheme of some 1478 01:28:23,340 --> 01:28:26,310 sort. But they have all these interesting come ons and he's 1479 01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:29,820 come on, it's fascinated me. And I've got four four different 1480 01:28:29,820 --> 01:28:33,210 things here. First of all, here's the main come on to which 1481 01:28:33,210 --> 01:28:35,310 is the FC USA. 1482 01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,320 yourself from debt with his limited time special offer? Do 1483 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,810 you know that every credit card you've ever had is worth 1484 01:28:42,810 --> 01:28:47,640 $150,000 cash, and you never have to pay it back. And every 1485 01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:52,500 auto loan or student loan is also worth $150,000 cash, and 1486 01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:57,900 you never pay it back. And every mortgage is worth $375,000 cash 1487 01:28:57,930 --> 01:29:01,710 cash for your debt paid off or not think what you can do with 1488 01:29:01,710 --> 01:29:05,250 financial freedom by downhaul by getting back to the Ambassador 1489 01:29:05,250 --> 01:29:08,220 that sent this to you, this will change your life 1490 01:29:08,340 --> 01:29:14,280 forever. Wow, that sounds like a bargain. If I got a credit card 1491 01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,980 is worth $150,000 This is good. 1492 01:29:16,980 --> 01:29:21,660 But yeah, no, you should cash it in. So apparently they got this 1493 01:29:21,660 --> 01:29:24,330 this it's really a pyramid scheme if you look at it, but 1494 01:29:24,330 --> 01:29:26,310 it's got they got all these pitches, and I've heard these 1495 01:29:26,310 --> 01:29:28,920 pitches before and they're all nonsense, but they're 1496 01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,250 interesting. And it's the perfect for our show and a lot 1497 01:29:32,250 --> 01:29:34,140 of our listeners I'm sure there's many of our listeners 1498 01:29:34,140 --> 01:29:37,860 who are actually at some point or another bought into some of 1499 01:29:37,860 --> 01:29:41,610 this No offence listeners and producers but but this one here 1500 01:29:41,610 --> 01:29:44,940 or you've heard this before, this is the straw man clip 1501 01:29:48,930 --> 01:29:50,640 it must say something else. 1502 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,620 Yeah. What's the straw man? 1503 01:29:53,070 --> 01:29:54,870 I don't have a straw man clip. 1504 01:29:55,170 --> 01:29:57,300 Is it in the second part of this stuff I sent. 1505 01:29:57,480 --> 01:30:01,260 I got all your stuff. Hold on a second. I'm sorry. Does this 1506 01:30:01,260 --> 01:30:09,000 work? clips to? Hold on a sec? No, I don't have any have 1507 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,830 anything with an S I go from p to 1508 01:30:10,830 --> 01:30:13,620 q? Well, that's not good. This is an important. 1509 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,760 It's not in the second bunch of clips. Well, I'm 1510 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:19,680 gonna have to send it to you again. Yeah. Because 1511 01:30:19,710 --> 01:30:22,650 yeah, let me let me check part one. Maybe I missed it here as 1512 01:30:22,650 --> 01:30:23,280 possible. 1513 01:30:26,460 --> 01:30:28,110 I believe it would be important to 1514 01:30:28,860 --> 01:30:34,080 know, you did not attach it my friend will attach it now. Can 1515 01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:38,190 you send it out real quick? I can. Okay. Yeah, I'm looking at 1516 01:30:38,190 --> 01:30:40,350 it. Let's let's name something else. I've GM. No, 1517 01:30:40,350 --> 01:30:42,870 no, no, it's named straw man is sitting here. Do you? Do you 1518 01:30:42,870 --> 01:30:45,420 have the clip I'm able to send you to do you have where money 1519 01:30:45,420 --> 01:30:49,050 comes from? I have that one. And you have quantum energetic I do? 1520 01:30:50,430 --> 01:30:51,510 Well, that's weird. 1521 01:30:53,490 --> 01:30:55,560 Can we play them out of order while you're sending that? And 1522 01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:56,310 we know actually, 1523 01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:58,290 I want to do a minority because it's actually kind of important 1524 01:30:58,290 --> 01:31:02,220 you send it yet? I will. I can't talk and chew gum at the same 1525 01:31:02,220 --> 01:31:02,970 time here. 1526 01:31:03,780 --> 01:31:10,500 It's so it's so incredibly hard. By the way, I'm back on Firefox, 1527 01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:15,630 I decided I've had enough. I was using Chrome for a while because 1528 01:31:16,350 --> 01:31:21,210 now it's just Firefox which just can't handle flash. For some 1529 01:31:21,210 --> 01:31:25,440 reason, and and then Chrome became a nightmare. Just really 1530 01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,400 spinning wheels of death and it slowed everything down. And at 1531 01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:33,210 least Firefox doesn't seem to be grabbing on the Mac. All the 1532 01:31:33,210 --> 01:31:38,250 resources seems to be doing somewhat better. But man Oh, 1533 01:31:38,250 --> 01:31:41,670 man. It said we need a new browser. 1534 01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,530 You know, I was thinking about that. Maybe we could do a yes. 1535 01:31:46,650 --> 01:31:50,340 What a startup thing. And a browser that's there is a couple 1536 01:31:50,340 --> 01:31:52,740 of browsers out there, but they're always based on Firefox. 1537 01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:56,010 Mozilla. Yeah. Pretty much older. WebKit Mozilla would 1538 01:31:56,010 --> 01:31:57,030 probably Mozilla. 1539 01:31:57,300 --> 01:32:01,200 Yeah. Okay, so I sent you to the strawberry strong. 1540 01:32:01,230 --> 01:32:02,970 So what were you thinking we were going to do you when you 1541 01:32:02,970 --> 01:32:05,130 say a startup? You mean a Kickstarter? I just have to try. 1542 01:32:05,130 --> 01:32:07,800 That's what everybody Yeah, you were going to do a Kickstarter, 1543 01:32:07,830 --> 01:32:08,430 right. 1544 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,080 What do you think it would cost? 1545 01:32:11,010 --> 01:32:13,260 What to do? What to build a browser? Yeah, 1546 01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,920 it's expensive to do. People say it's not expensive. You get to 1547 01:32:17,220 --> 01:32:21,570 that one one quarter was using and then you have the one that's 1548 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:21,930 in 1549 01:32:22,770 --> 01:32:25,290 France. What's so great, what's going to be different about it? 1550 01:32:25,380 --> 01:32:28,920 Well, they would they make it better. We have a guy knows what 1551 01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:29,400 he's doing. 1552 01:32:29,430 --> 01:32:31,710 I got straw man ready. So he roll it. Okay, so 1553 01:32:31,710 --> 01:32:34,290 let's play straw man. And now tell me you haven't heard this 1554 01:32:34,290 --> 01:32:38,940 pitch. It's a common like bullshit pitch that a lot of 1555 01:32:38,940 --> 01:32:41,430 people promote. Here we go. 1556 01:32:41,700 --> 01:32:46,830 Nor legally, your sweat equity is collateral for the US 1557 01:32:46,830 --> 01:32:52,350 corporation to Federal Reserve Banks. USA is a private foreign 1558 01:32:52,350 --> 01:32:56,640 corporation, incorporated in England in 1871. I know I've 1559 01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:00,510 heard this IRS is a private corporation contracted as a bill 1560 01:33:00,510 --> 01:33:04,680 collector to repay the interest on the national debt residing in 1561 01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:09,630 Puerto Rico. They are not a government agency. Corporations 1562 01:33:09,630 --> 01:33:14,250 can only do business with other corporations. Upon their birth, 1563 01:33:14,580 --> 01:33:19,350 all individuals are given a twin known as your straw man, which 1564 01:33:19,350 --> 01:33:22,530 is a corporation owned and controlled by the government 1565 01:33:22,530 --> 01:33:27,420 beginning in 1933. Your Corporation straw man name is 1566 01:33:27,420 --> 01:33:32,250 Your name in all capital letters, such as John H. Doe, or 1567 01:33:32,310 --> 01:33:37,770 Mary a doe. Black's Law states, a capitalised name refers to a 1568 01:33:37,770 --> 01:33:38,520 corporation. 1569 01:33:40,710 --> 01:33:44,250 Yeah, before you go on, because you said some of our producers 1570 01:33:44,250 --> 01:33:47,940 probably had been a part of this. I've looked at this many, 1571 01:33:47,940 --> 01:33:52,770 many times. I've seen many seminars, lots of speeches, lots 1572 01:33:52,770 --> 01:33:56,850 of documentation. And it's common law. I think the it's 1573 01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,420 like Common Law of the Sea or Admiralty, I forget exactly what 1574 01:34:00,420 --> 01:34:04,530 the term is. And it totally makes sense to me. I don't think 1575 01:34:04,530 --> 01:34:08,040 that people forget that we also have a police force that will 1576 01:34:08,070 --> 01:34:11,610 arrest you and throw you in jail if you try to go around this 1577 01:34:11,610 --> 01:34:15,060 system. But there's always a claim that there are people who 1578 01:34:15,480 --> 01:34:19,860 know how to do this, and are living outside of their legal 1579 01:34:19,860 --> 01:34:24,090 twin entity. And you end up the way you answer questions and 1580 01:34:24,090 --> 01:34:26,700 it's things that you do or do not acknowledge I've you know, 1581 01:34:26,730 --> 01:34:29,850 yeah, so I've seen the seminars, I've always thought, wow, that'd 1582 01:34:29,850 --> 01:34:33,450 be cool to do. But I would probably wind up in jail. 1583 01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,960 Yes, as anyone else would, by the way, because this is all 1584 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:38,250 nonsense, but let's go on 1585 01:34:38,250 --> 01:34:40,920 you think it's not true that none of this is true, but that 1586 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:41,760 we were bankrupt in 1587 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:46,440 1933. Maybe and you got it and you when you're born you're born 1588 01:34:46,440 --> 01:34:50,790 as a corporation. Yeah, I don't think so. You don't think so? 1589 01:34:51,540 --> 01:34:54,870 No, I don't think so. Find me your corporate record. That was 1590 01:34:54,870 --> 01:34:58,680 all Adam curry. All caps. That was all caps thing come from 1591 01:34:58,710 --> 01:35:04,260 Yeah, no, I Okay, no no no no don't don't even think it's any 1592 01:35:04,260 --> 01:35:07,020 of this is realistic. Okay, where money comes from is 1593 01:35:07,020 --> 01:35:10,170 another one that we as we move along with this is a pitch 1594 01:35:10,170 --> 01:35:13,260 you've heard this too. Yeah and this I just think did I like 1595 01:35:13,260 --> 01:35:16,080 these because they got a little music in the background I got 1596 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,750 some nice graphics are very professionally done. And the guy 1597 01:35:18,750 --> 01:35:19,830 who's got a nice voice 1598 01:35:20,310 --> 01:35:23,460 didn't have didn't What was it wasn't wedlock Wesley Snipes the 1599 01:35:23,460 --> 01:35:25,410 freedom club guy didn't know 1600 01:35:25,470 --> 01:35:28,020 or maybe his love what you mean the guy in jail 1601 01:35:29,670 --> 01:35:33,750 where money comes from fractional banking creates money 1602 01:35:33,750 --> 01:35:38,220 from your birth account using your note signature. Banks are 1603 01:35:38,220 --> 01:35:43,140 loaning you your own money. Your signature gives them implied 1604 01:35:43,140 --> 01:35:47,070 authority to take the money from your birth account. They then 1605 01:35:47,070 --> 01:35:51,720 pretend it was their money they loaned you you pay principal and 1606 01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:56,280 interest to the bank for money they did not loan you that is 1607 01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,190 conversion and therein lies the fraud. 1608 01:36:00,150 --> 01:36:03,870 Yeah, I've heard this too. And this is where the $9.2 million 1609 01:36:04,230 --> 01:36:08,010 of value comes from. That each of us is assigned and what I 1610 01:36:08,010 --> 01:36:10,980 have always understood that listen to me, I'm telling you 1611 01:36:11,010 --> 01:36:14,910 I'm telling you my deep my deepest heartfelt secrets I have 1612 01:36:14,910 --> 01:36:19,950 always understood that the there is a part of America's value is 1613 01:36:19,950 --> 01:36:24,660 the number of human resources at birth times 9.2 million that's 1614 01:36:24,660 --> 01:36:29,310 adjusted for inflation of course and that is what we bank upon 1615 01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:34,560 and that and that is the true value of the United States and 1616 01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:41,280 that indeed the the banking system banks on that on the 1617 01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:45,690 legal entity that we are outside of the personal entity that you 1618 01:36:45,690 --> 01:36:51,480 are that this it's though that the United States is it is 1619 01:36:51,480 --> 01:36:54,480 registered as a legal entity that way is you know the so our 1620 01:36:54,480 --> 01:36:58,800 cities and particularly fractions of cities the City of 1621 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,330 London you know this all this stuff 1622 01:37:00,330 --> 01:37:03,540 with this whole cities are incorporated this business and 1623 01:37:03,540 --> 01:37:06,330 if it was the United States where where's the incorporation 1624 01:37:06,330 --> 01:37:06,870 papers? 1625 01:37:07,620 --> 01:37:10,410 This it well, you catch me a little off guard, but I had sent 1626 01:37:10,410 --> 01:37:10,650 me a 1627 01:37:10,650 --> 01:37:13,830 guy sent me a copy like to read the included the articles of 1628 01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:17,760 incorporation. All right, onward, you can do that later. 1629 01:37:19,110 --> 01:37:22,020 Yeah, meanwhile, of course, you go on with this stuff. And you 1630 01:37:22,020 --> 01:37:25,560 end up with finally, you know, besides the scheme that they 1631 01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:30,210 have you forgiven $5,000, you get a check for $550,000. Look 1632 01:37:30,210 --> 01:37:30,420 at 1633 01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:33,300 Well, this sounds like a great idea. Yeah. 1634 01:37:35,490 --> 01:37:39,030 But they also do this, which is like why is this in here and 1635 01:37:39,030 --> 01:37:43,680 this is the quantum energetics, which is also on this site. 1636 01:37:44,429 --> 01:37:48,329 With being free emotionally were tied to our past in some way. 1637 01:37:48,839 --> 01:37:51,899 Even today's emotional distresses can be traced back to 1638 01:37:51,899 --> 01:37:55,679 triggers from our past. The good news is that there are ways to 1639 01:37:55,679 --> 01:37:59,519 release these negative and help you let go of the past. Our 1640 01:37:59,519 --> 01:38:03,149 quantum energetics is a unique programme designed to clear away 1641 01:38:03,149 --> 01:38:07,169 emotional damage. It is the work of Reverend Tom our founder 1642 01:38:07,229 --> 01:38:10,559 putting together in his own way, the work of many people in a 1643 01:38:10,559 --> 01:38:14,969 simple and very effective programme. As he says, it takes 1644 01:38:14,969 --> 01:38:18,449 a lifetime to get over your childhood. Come get clear with 1645 01:38:18,449 --> 01:38:21,449 us. The Quantum energetics programme is a programme we 1646 01:38:21,449 --> 01:38:24,719 offer that is a powerful and very effective way to deal with 1647 01:38:24,719 --> 01:38:28,049 those past life negative experiences that bind us to our 1648 01:38:28,049 --> 01:38:31,589 current emotional distress. It can be relieved from the comfort 1649 01:38:31,589 --> 01:38:35,669 of your own home, the release of emotional distress is freeing 1650 01:38:35,699 --> 01:38:36,929 and life altering. 1651 01:38:38,070 --> 01:38:40,170 I don't know where that came from. That's a part of the 1652 01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:42,000 that's the same outfit. 1653 01:38:42,179 --> 01:38:48,539 Yeah. Yeah. All right. So I did the thing that got my attention 1654 01:38:48,539 --> 01:38:52,169 was his bankruptcy in 1933, where they supposedly some 1655 01:38:52,169 --> 01:38:58,589 bankruptcy took place. And so I ended up with a with a, I read 1656 01:38:58,589 --> 01:39:01,499 this article about the bankruptcy. And so I did one of 1657 01:39:01,499 --> 01:39:04,139 my classic, you know, let me take the weirdest sentence I 1658 01:39:04,139 --> 01:39:06,539 could find, and then 1659 01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,520 roll that to see where it came from. 1660 01:39:09,090 --> 01:39:11,370 I couldn't find out where it came from. But it's interesting 1661 01:39:11,370 --> 01:39:16,530 to see where it ended up. And essentially, what they've done 1662 01:39:16,530 --> 01:39:19,440 is let me just read your part of this. They're all they all say 1663 01:39:19,440 --> 01:39:23,430 the same thing. It starts with these pieces. This is an article 1664 01:39:23,430 --> 01:39:26,280 that has been pieced together to convince you of some sort of 1665 01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:30,300 bankruptcy, bankruptcy that took place in 1933. And it starts 1666 01:39:30,300 --> 01:39:34,890 with a supposedly a quote from the Congressional Record from 1667 01:39:34,890 --> 01:39:39,660 James traficant, Jr. In Ohio, addressing the house and he 1668 01:39:39,660 --> 01:39:42,810 says, now we're gonna have to read this, Mr. Speaker. We are 1669 01:39:42,810 --> 01:39:47,520 now here in chapter 11. Members of the Congress, our official 1670 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,970 trustees, presiding over the greatest reorganisation of any 1671 01:39:50,970 --> 01:39:55,020 bankrupt entity in the world history, the US government, we 1672 01:39:55,020 --> 01:39:58,110 are setting forth the hopefully a blueprint for our future. 1673 01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:02,580 There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead 1674 01:40:02,580 --> 01:40:06,540 to our demise. Oh, then in the same article that that's got a 1675 01:40:06,540 --> 01:40:08,790 quote mark at the beginning, there's no quote mark at the end 1676 01:40:08,790 --> 01:40:11,970 of the after the word demise. So that makes you think it's a 1677 01:40:11,970 --> 01:40:15,990 continuation. It is an established fact that the United 1678 01:40:15,990 --> 01:40:19,920 States federal government has been dissolved by the Emergency 1679 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:25,920 Banking Act of March 9 1933 48. Stack one public law 89 Dash 719 1680 01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,830 declared by the president wrote by President Roosevelt being 1681 01:40:29,850 --> 01:40:33,270 bankrupt and insolvent it goes on and on and on. So as usual, 1682 01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:37,320 if you look at the Congressional Record, and actually look at it, 1683 01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:40,560 you find the traffic content thing. It's they're debating a 1684 01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:45,420 bill H, I think it's H 1303. And he says this Mr. Speaker here, 1685 01:40:45,420 --> 01:40:48,810 and now in chapter 11, he goes on and on and on. This was 1686 01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:52,650 facetious, because it's after the word demise. He doesn't go 1687 01:40:52,650 --> 01:40:56,310 on with He doesn't say, it's an established fact, blah, blah, 1688 01:40:56,310 --> 01:41:01,290 blah. He says, I am going to support the rule. I am not sure 1689 01:41:01,290 --> 01:41:05,640 if it will support this budget. I want to hear an awful lot more 1690 01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:08,700 not being a member of this committee. And if I'm not 1691 01:41:08,700 --> 01:41:11,880 getting to vote for things I do not and it goes on. He never the 1692 01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:16,050 rest of it is all bullcrap. What are you talking about? So 1693 01:41:16,050 --> 01:41:18,360 everything that isn't that's been floating around this, this 1694 01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,870 little document has been floating around saying it goes 1695 01:41:21,870 --> 01:41:24,090 on about who dropped the gold standard. We're in bankruptcy. 1696 01:41:24,090 --> 01:41:27,000 It all happened in 1933. This has got nothing to do with what 1697 01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,670 he was doing. And they then they cite that it was a good question 1698 01:41:29,670 --> 01:41:35,160 all records bullcrap. It's just a lie. So I googled the little 1699 01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:38,850 phrase, I ended up Googling, let me find it here like Google 1700 01:41:38,850 --> 01:41:45,840 search. The AI it within this document, it says this new form 1701 01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:49,680 of government is known as a democracy, which is the argument 1702 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:53,160 that we're not a republic anymore. We're a democracy. And 1703 01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,350 it goes on us as his new form of government is known as a 1704 01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:58,620 democracy being an established socialist slash communist order. 1705 01:41:58,740 --> 01:42:02,310 Under a new governor for America. There's a government 1706 01:42:02,310 --> 01:42:05,610 running in place. So that and this is all just part of this, 1707 01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:09,600 this script, or this one document. So I googled it, this 1708 01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,510 new form of governments known as a democracy to see who ran this 1709 01:42:12,510 --> 01:42:16,740 thing. And they ran it full cloth with the same missing 1710 01:42:16,740 --> 01:42:20,160 quote, as though traffic count. They brought our traffic Conte 1711 01:42:20,340 --> 01:42:23,400 brought this up in Congress when he didn't, he was just joking 1712 01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:25,920 around actually, like, say, you know, it's like saying, Hey, 1713 01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,160 Adam, well, how are you doing this weekend? I'm bankrupt, man. 1714 01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:33,150 I got nothing. And then all of a sudden that random curry is 1715 01:42:33,150 --> 01:42:33,960 bankrupt. Alright, 1716 01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:37,890 so Okay, so let me just follow this. But you're really relating 1717 01:42:37,890 --> 01:42:41,640 this to the Federal Reserve 1930 1913 1718 01:42:42,059 --> 01:42:47,219 No, no, it the whole thing is about this one phrase. The US 1719 01:42:47,219 --> 01:42:51,839 went bankrupt. We actually filed and went bankrupt in 1933. That 1720 01:42:51,839 --> 01:42:56,429 is the assertion that and they win people a bitch about the 98 1721 01:42:56,429 --> 01:42:59,459 they're the Federal Reserve Act they they usually drop that in 1722 01:42:59,459 --> 01:43:02,039 afterwards they were already bankrupt and all and we got a 1723 01:43:02,249 --> 01:43:04,739 new form of government nobody's talking about and we have a 1724 01:43:04,739 --> 01:43:08,369 governor that runs things and we don't know who he is as a shadow 1725 01:43:08,369 --> 01:43:11,879 government running everything. Right. It's not that it this is 1726 01:43:11,879 --> 01:43:14,669 like oh, well this is another piece of crap. It's when you 1727 01:43:14,699 --> 01:43:21,569 google this it's who printed this article. In exactly full 1728 01:43:21,569 --> 01:43:22,139 cloth. 1729 01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:26,310 That is shocking. What does that what does it mean full cloth? 1730 01:43:26,580 --> 01:43:30,570 Everything is exactly the same article Yeah, there is no 1731 01:43:30,570 --> 01:43:33,210 editing they all they edited it was the headlines the editing, 1732 01:43:33,210 --> 01:43:37,380 there's no editing of this thing. And we go from we go from 1733 01:43:37,380 --> 01:43:40,650 the Republic of the United states.com When you go to before 1734 01:43:40,650 --> 01:43:46,290 it's news.com. We go for awaken video.org We go to this true 1735 01:43:46,290 --> 01:43:50,640 democracy. Henry Henry Makau rent ran this thing the daily 1736 01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,810 Paul ran it. Republican of Arizona ran it full cloth. 1737 01:43:55,590 --> 01:44:00,540 Slavery is the news. Granite full cloth. Liberty beacon ran 1738 01:44:00,540 --> 01:44:04,020 it. I mean, these are all pushing this bullcrap. And then 1739 01:44:04,020 --> 01:44:06,690 you get into some interesting ones. It shows up in Facebook 1740 01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,270 all over the place. The gathering spot Bakersfield 1741 01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:14,100 talks, freedom for all seasons.com And then you get 1742 01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:19,590 farm guardian. Sovereign america.com Jesus saviour.com It 1743 01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:21,900 goes on and on. And then we get to it. Here's the ones I wanted 1744 01:44:21,900 --> 01:44:25,530 to get to which again, page three rumour mill news, soda 1745 01:44:25,530 --> 01:44:29,880 head, Joe bird freedom club, then it shows up in watchtower. 1746 01:44:30,780 --> 01:44:34,620 It shows up in rents, which people always say oh rents 1747 01:44:34,620 --> 01:44:38,250 rents, and then it shows up and guess who your buddy down the 1748 01:44:38,250 --> 01:44:40,170 street? Ran it full cloth 1749 01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:42,690 Infowars. Yes. 1750 01:44:43,890 --> 01:44:45,750 It goes on and on the chemical centre. 1751 01:44:45,780 --> 01:44:51,000 And so it is based upon a throwaway line. That was a joke 1752 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:54,330 and it's a lie and it would never happen that way. Yeah, 1753 01:44:54,450 --> 01:44:56,010 yeah. Well, and you're surprised 1754 01:44:56,580 --> 01:44:59,160 know what that what I was surprised by was it's such a 1755 01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:02,970 piece of crap. little article, and it talks about that we have 1756 01:45:02,970 --> 01:45:05,850 a governor now and it's a socialist country. And we've 1757 01:45:05,850 --> 01:45:09,480 changed. We had papers everywhere. What surprises me is 1758 01:45:09,480 --> 01:45:10,860 not the data that we see. 1759 01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,740 Is that no one does the the research to take a look at 1760 01:45:13,740 --> 01:45:16,350 what's really going on. No, I know. And it runs 1761 01:45:16,350 --> 01:45:19,770 in grants and it runs in full World Wars. 1762 01:45:19,890 --> 01:45:20,220 Well, I've 1763 01:45:20,220 --> 01:45:24,180 been trying I've been trying to do I know I've been tracking. 1764 01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,830 I've been tracking something recently, which is blacklisted 1765 01:45:28,830 --> 01:45:32,700 news, Zero Hedge wrens, Breitbart, Infowars, all of 1766 01:45:32,700 --> 01:45:37,830 this, about this lawsuit. And when you really look into it, 1767 01:45:37,830 --> 01:45:41,520 it's it's quite different. But here's the headline, US sailors 1768 01:45:41,550 --> 01:45:46,680 dying of cancer, they were at Fukushima suing the United 1769 01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:50,700 States Navy. And then when you look into it, it's a husband and 1770 01:45:50,700 --> 01:45:55,380 wife, who tried this a year and a half ago, judge threw it out 1771 01:45:55,380 --> 01:45:58,620 of court, they've now tried to amend something they don't, 1772 01:45:58,740 --> 01:46:02,640 they're not actually dying yet. You know, it's like it keeps 1773 01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,770 getting worse and worse and worse and worse. And then they 1774 01:46:04,770 --> 01:46:08,460 actually come out and they're suing for $100 million. And then 1775 01:46:08,460 --> 01:46:10,770 they and then the statement is, well, some people will think 1776 01:46:10,770 --> 01:46:13,350 we're doing this just for the money. Oh, no, no, I didn't 1777 01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:16,710 think that at all. But the way the headline morphs and you 1778 01:46:16,710 --> 01:46:22,020 know, my I mean, I've I hold back on, on all of these 1779 01:46:22,020 --> 01:46:26,250 Fukushima stories, because I I'd rather wait five years and go, 1780 01:46:26,250 --> 01:46:28,710 Oh, are we all dead yet? Because, you know, it makes no 1781 01:46:28,710 --> 01:46:32,160 sense for me to say it's not true. You're being lied to, 1782 01:46:32,250 --> 01:46:35,580 you're being manipulated, you're specifically being manipulated 1783 01:46:35,580 --> 01:46:38,670 by the gas industry, specifically, 1784 01:46:40,110 --> 01:46:42,660 T. Boone Pickens has got more brands than we do, 1785 01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:47,610 and everything and the whole solar and wind and it's all 1786 01:46:47,610 --> 01:46:52,500 about gas. But you but you know, of course, he's the same people 1787 01:46:52,500 --> 01:46:58,260 selling iodine drops, etc, right? And then and then this 1788 01:46:58,260 --> 01:47:01,380 map that's been going around, look, here's the the toxic cloud 1789 01:47:01,380 --> 01:47:04,770 had reached California within four days when that map was 1790 01:47:04,770 --> 01:47:09,030 actually from NOAA. And that map is of a current from the 1791 01:47:09,030 --> 01:47:13,680 aftermath of the tsunami, not at all about nuclear cloud or 1792 01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:15,150 anything. And 1793 01:47:15,540 --> 01:47:19,500 I was extremely annoyed by this besides the humorous clips from 1794 01:47:19,500 --> 01:47:23,880 the freedom club, when this this 1933 thing came up and I said 1795 01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:25,950 well, I'm gonna look into it the way you would do normally and 1796 01:47:25,950 --> 01:47:31,080 then why saw it linked to every crackpot and your alternative 1797 01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,900 news sites but John, that's because they're not doing as 1798 01:47:33,900 --> 01:47:36,570 hell that no, you can't get good news anywhere 1799 01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:38,670 because they're not doing the work. They're not doing the 1800 01:47:38,670 --> 01:47:41,970 simple work and how long did it take you? 40 minutes? 1801 01:47:42,210 --> 01:47:45,300 It took me it didn't take long now, but But no, 1802 01:47:45,750 --> 01:47:47,310 I get it. I told Okay, 1803 01:47:47,310 --> 01:47:49,620 brings me brings me on budget. If I'm gonna bitch about the 1804 01:47:49,620 --> 01:47:52,410 media, I might as well go to the mainstream media for a second. 1805 01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:56,790 And I got an ask Adam here. Now take yourself and make yourself 1806 01:47:56,790 --> 01:48:00,960 like a journalist that you're like, Well, I have to get into 1807 01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:06,030 character. Don't rock rock. Okay, I'm ready. Okay, now I 1808 01:48:06,030 --> 01:48:09,090 want to play a clip from the Today Show. And as a journalist, 1809 01:48:09,090 --> 01:48:11,760 you're going to ask who, what, when, where and why. So I'm 1810 01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:16,170 going to ask you questions about what you learned from this clip. 1811 01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:21,060 And you're going to tell me based on what's in this clip. 1812 01:48:22,380 --> 01:48:25,800 What this clip is all about. Essentially, it just run the ads 1813 01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:27,360 again, this is today's show clip 1814 01:48:27,390 --> 01:48:29,880 wanted to know more about as Google technologists Daniel 1815 01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:30,270 Sieberg? 1816 01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:35,940 The story that we were just talking about in the break up 1817 01:48:35,940 --> 01:48:38,460 Justine Sacco, a lot of people may not know the name if they 1818 01:48:38,460 --> 01:48:40,170 weren't, you know, immersed in Twitter, a 1819 01:48:40,710 --> 01:48:43,470 little offensive tweet would certainly come up a little bit. 1820 01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,560 Back to her it was heard around the world eventually. And the 1821 01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:50,040 idea is that she sent out this offensive tweet that had to do 1822 01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,710 with AIDS and Africa, she got on a flight from London to South 1823 01:48:52,710 --> 01:48:56,070 Africa. By the time she landed, the internet had exploded with 1824 01:48:56,070 --> 01:49:00,360 reaction to this. And everybody was of course very upset. She 1825 01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:03,300 was fired as a result and just this kind of, you know, 1826 01:49:03,300 --> 01:49:06,000 mentality of everybody reacting to it online was very, she was a 1827 01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,880 PR person for major company, which is why I do so much she 1828 01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:12,030 tends to apologise for it, we should say she's got a 1829 01:49:12,030 --> 01:49:14,760 statement, I'll read it. Your Words cannot express how sorry I 1830 01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:17,790 am how necessary it is for me to apologise to the people of South 1831 01:49:17,790 --> 01:49:20,610 Africa. Well, I have offended due to needless and careless 1832 01:49:20,610 --> 01:49:24,510 tweet. I'm very sorry for the pain I caused. The only good 1833 01:49:24,510 --> 01:49:27,060 that came out of this were some sites that redirected people to 1834 01:49:27,060 --> 01:49:30,330 donate money to AIDS charities, so at least that's a small 1835 01:49:30,330 --> 01:49:33,900 positive but obviously a lot of negative reaction. Yeah. It's 1836 01:49:33,900 --> 01:49:34,440 horrible. 1837 01:49:38,970 --> 01:49:42,150 So my question would be, what company? 1838 01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:49,440 That would be question number one. They didn't say why. They 1839 01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:52,590 didn't say what you know what company it is, right. Mary, 1840 01:49:52,590 --> 01:49:53,250 what's his name? 1841 01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:56,760 Oh, I see Barry Diller's coronary jewellers operation. 1842 01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:59,910 Well, that's a, that's a, that's a that's a roll up. So as a 1843 01:49:59,910 --> 01:50:01,710 whole A bunch of companies in IAC. 1844 01:50:02,190 --> 01:50:04,470 Yeah, well, she was one of the May PR people, I think for the 1845 01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:08,730 holding company, whatever the case. Why didn't they say who 1846 01:50:08,730 --> 01:50:10,440 didn't? That's the question I had. What was the name of the 1847 01:50:10,440 --> 01:50:12,870 company? What did you learn from that clip? You learned these 1848 01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:15,960 guys? Like they laugh Yuk it up at the hole. And is it an 1849 01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,360 offensive tweet? What was the tweet? 1850 01:50:18,540 --> 01:50:20,760 No, we don't need to know what the tweet is. That will be 1851 01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:21,420 wrong. 1852 01:50:22,290 --> 01:50:24,990 We would ditch offensive one person says it's offensive. The 1853 01:50:24,990 --> 01:50:26,520 other one says it's really offensive. 1854 01:50:26,550 --> 01:50:27,990 It's really offensive. 1855 01:50:30,270 --> 01:50:33,330 What was it? What kind of reporting is this? 1856 01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:38,940 Yeah. Well, it was that's pretty bad reporting. Now. I've looked 1857 01:50:38,940 --> 01:50:42,420 at it now. It's funny because someone did at the party at our 1858 01:50:42,420 --> 01:50:47,010 party. Someone you know, I was laying down my smack about. 1859 01:50:48,180 --> 01:50:53,100 About Duck Dynasty and, and target about that being the 1860 01:50:53,100 --> 01:50:57,450 cover up. And then And then someone who was listening? Who 1861 01:50:57,450 --> 01:51:02,700 had no idea what you're talking about, when? Obviously. Wow, did 1862 01:51:02,700 --> 01:51:06,720 you hear about that tweet from the PR lady. And I, 1863 01:51:07,050 --> 01:51:12,630 by the way, this PR lady had 100 followers. Yeah, who cares what 1864 01:51:12,630 --> 01:51:14,490 she tweets but okay, go on. 1865 01:51:15,090 --> 01:51:18,600 And I was like, No, and that's where I first heard about it. 1866 01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,570 And I guess if she said, I'm going to Africa, hope I don't 1867 01:51:21,570 --> 01:51:23,700 get AIDS because I'm white or something like that. 1868 01:51:23,700 --> 01:51:26,730 No, no, she says, I'm going to Africa. Hope I don't get AIDS. 1869 01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:32,040 Just kidding. I'm white. Right? Yeah. So this is uh, this was 1870 01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:36,300 very, very, very offensive, so offensive, extremely offensive, 1871 01:51:36,420 --> 01:51:39,660 extremely offensive, to the point where they couldn't even 1872 01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,840 say what it was that she said, and I looked at I said, this is 1873 01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:47,430 just dumb. It's stupid. It's just stupid. So what 1874 01:51:47,460 --> 01:51:51,270 interesting why, why did we know what the story was behind that? 1875 01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:53,610 Of course, that's the whole point is to 1876 01:51:53,610 --> 01:51:56,940 somebody picked it up and retweeted it isn't this offence 1877 01:51:56,940 --> 01:51:59,910 some, you know, Newton, it got there, I guess I think was 1878 01:51:59,910 --> 01:52:04,230 somebody trying to get this woman and they, they're in the 1879 01:52:04,230 --> 01:52:08,070 PR business, right? So they got it out there. Boom, she's fired. 1880 01:52:08,070 --> 01:52:11,250 She goes, Robson, the she's a centre of attention when she 1881 01:52:11,250 --> 01:52:14,610 lands in South Africa. She has 100 followers. Who cares what 1882 01:52:14,610 --> 01:52:16,800 she says it's like these guys, ankle biters. 1883 01:52:17,129 --> 01:52:20,579 I think the way I the way I when I read this, and I do recall 1884 01:52:20,579 --> 01:52:24,869 reading it, I kind of took it like, kind of her way of saying 1885 01:52:26,249 --> 01:52:30,689 apartheid is alive and well. And no one cares about black people 1886 01:52:30,689 --> 01:52:35,399 in South Africa and the AIDS problem. And it seemed like a 1887 01:52:35,399 --> 01:52:38,939 kind of like a tongue in cheek not a great joke. But I kind of 1888 01:52:38,939 --> 01:52:41,699 got it like, Okay, you're going to South Africa. Hope you don't 1889 01:52:41,699 --> 01:52:43,679 get AIDS. But just kidding. You don't because you're white. It's 1890 01:52:43,679 --> 01:52:45,809 like, yeah, there's a huge problem with AIDS amongst the 1891 01:52:45,809 --> 01:52:49,379 black population in South Africa. It's not a great way of 1892 01:52:49,379 --> 01:52:52,259 trying to bring attention to it. But that's how I read it. And I 1893 01:52:52,259 --> 01:52:55,559 think that was the intent probably was I don't know but 1894 01:52:55,559 --> 01:52:58,529 this is this the Machine Man the machine likes to be fed at the 1895 01:52:58,529 --> 01:53:01,949 end of the year just wants to put more crap into that. Will 1896 01:53:01,949 --> 01:53:03,539 you know the machine learned 1897 01:53:03,780 --> 01:53:06,600 about the machine as you can pick it up? We have this thesis 1898 01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,000 on the show that people always tell the truth at some point. 1899 01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:13,710 Yeah. They can't not people can't live forever. So I found 1900 01:53:13,950 --> 01:53:18,630 Matt Lauer curiously telling the truth during a stupid segment 1901 01:53:18,930 --> 01:53:22,110 that I watched him with this is this is the dumbest thing and I 1902 01:53:22,110 --> 01:53:24,270 don't even know how it became a segment how it became 1903 01:53:24,300 --> 01:53:27,120 before you before you do that. Can I just say something about 1904 01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:32,310 the age thing and Africa? Yeah. You know, Mickey's she's sag so 1905 01:53:32,310 --> 01:53:34,950 we've now we're getting all the movies for the SAG Awards. She 1906 01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:38,160 has to vote on it. And we and we got the Matthew McConaughey 1907 01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:44,970 movie The Dallas Buyers Club, which was almost outstanding, 1908 01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:50,490 because it it completely legitimises my theory that the 1909 01:53:50,490 --> 01:53:54,630 AC T was killing people. And you know, and it was the FDA. And 1910 01:53:54,630 --> 01:53:57,870 the whole thing is up until the very end of the movie, the last 1911 01:53:57,870 --> 01:54:01,710 line to stop the lawsuits. They put a one line in there that 1912 01:54:01,710 --> 01:54:06,480 says, later the AZT and very low doses and it was given to 1913 01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:10,710 patients and save millions worldwide and of movie. The 1914 01:54:10,710 --> 01:54:13,740 whole thing was about how people were living for years without 1915 01:54:13,740 --> 01:54:17,880 AZT with just the HIV virus not having full blown AIDS because 1916 01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:22,410 they weren't taking this, this the unapproved cancer drug and 1917 01:54:22,410 --> 01:54:25,620 rejected cancer drug. And at the very end of the movie, they 1918 01:54:25,620 --> 01:54:29,010 ruined the whole thing by by little throwaway line, like, oh, 1919 01:54:29,010 --> 01:54:32,850 but in very low doses. Yeah. Which will be nothing. It saved 1920 01:54:32,850 --> 01:54:36,480 millions of people. So they don't get sued. Anyway. 1921 01:54:37,110 --> 01:54:38,370 Well, that was what you have to 1922 01:54:38,370 --> 01:54:41,820 do. Yeah. That was just the way it works in the movie. Okay. 1923 01:54:41,850 --> 01:54:42,660 Yeah. So anyway, so 1924 01:54:42,660 --> 01:54:45,450 we're going back to that so the media sucks. And so we want to 1925 01:54:45,450 --> 01:54:49,020 now do tell the truth once in a while and they bring it out that 1926 01:54:49,020 --> 01:54:53,280 they suck. So there's this piece floating around about and it was 1927 01:54:53,370 --> 01:54:57,030 just a lousy piece it was and I saw it on the internet. I saw it 1928 01:54:57,030 --> 01:54:59,520 here and they did it on the Today Show. Because apparently 1929 01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:03,060 today's show Oh nowadays is essentially just running crap 1930 01:55:03,060 --> 01:55:08,040 off it's the news the news so this is that airbrushing story 1931 01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:12,270 that became a rage oh look the airbrush this girl and they made 1932 01:55:12,270 --> 01:55:14,430 her legs longer and they did all this stuff 1933 01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:18,660 another story I know nothing about Photoshop okay I don't 1934 01:55:18,660 --> 01:55:20,250 know anything of the day just play it 1935 01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:24,660 no I'm gonna get the setup set it up yeah so the if you went to 1936 01:55:24,660 --> 01:55:27,210 any of these website news websites they have all this 1937 01:55:27,210 --> 01:55:30,630 stuff at the bottom now which is all paid for advertising that's 1938 01:55:30,630 --> 01:55:34,020 done in the form of news stories and a little Photoshop quick 1939 01:55:34,020 --> 01:55:39,870 photo Photoshop thing remarkable Photoshop YouTube video and it's 1940 01:55:39,870 --> 01:55:43,290 a it's just a piece of shit is useless. But they picked it up 1941 01:55:43,290 --> 01:55:45,390 on the Today Show and he decided to go with it. 1942 01:55:45,420 --> 01:55:48,750 What is not understanding? Is it showing how women are. 1943 01:55:49,500 --> 01:55:52,440 It's a it's a girl's picture and then they Photoshopped her and 1944 01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:55,680 they didn't make a blonde or they make her legs longer. Good 1945 01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:56,430 and high speeds. 1946 01:55:56,460 --> 01:55:57,210 Right? Got it. 1947 01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:02,280 Got it and it's lame. It's just lame. It's part so why are they 1948 01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:06,120 running? Yeah. Why are they running this as news on the 1949 01:56:06,180 --> 01:56:09,150 today's show in the yucking it up. But what's interesting is 1950 01:56:09,150 --> 01:56:11,910 that they give a little insight they give us a little bit of 1951 01:56:11,910 --> 01:56:15,090 truth of the end that you'll catch, I'm sure and I just did 1952 01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:16,350 ah, this is a great clip 1953 01:56:16,530 --> 01:56:20,190 trending from YouTube photoshopped to perfection take 1954 01:56:20,190 --> 01:56:23,310 a look at this. It's no secret that the glamorous images we see 1955 01:56:23,310 --> 01:56:26,520 in magazines are heavily airbrushed right now a dramatic 1956 01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,430 new video is illustrating just how much work goes into that 1957 01:56:29,430 --> 01:56:33,270 process. This time lapse video shows a makeup free model 1958 01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:37,200 becoming a blonde bombshell photo editors in large her eyes 1959 01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:40,560 and shrink her nose. They tightened her tummy they stretch 1960 01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:44,640 her neck and legs and finally they lightened her skin giving 1961 01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:48,570 it that certain glow the final result looks like a completely 1962 01:56:48,750 --> 01:56:52,050 different won't even need the model no I mean it's like weird 1963 01:56:52,050 --> 01:56:54,150 science you could just make up the girl let's 1964 01:56:54,150 --> 01:56:57,690 be clear she started as a blind bombshell so she needed all 1965 01:56:57,690 --> 01:56:58,770 those improvement is 1966 01:56:58,770 --> 01:57:02,550 this amazing. You cannot believe anything you see in print or on 1967 01:57:02,550 --> 01:57:03,330 television. I 1968 01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:05,370 think a little airbrushing a little bit here and there. But 1969 01:57:05,370 --> 01:57:05,970 that's extensive. 1970 01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:10,770 A little here and there is okay. But that's crazy. 1971 01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:16,050 The line is you cannot believe anything anything you see. 1972 01:57:16,500 --> 01:57:18,600 That's the line. And then he says oh and tell the truth. 1973 01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:26,280 He says television, right buddy kind of pulled back a little 1974 01:57:26,370 --> 01:57:26,790 well this 1975 01:57:26,790 --> 01:57:29,670 is there is something going on. It's an advertising opportunity. 1976 01:57:29,670 --> 01:57:37,080 It's really big. And it revolves around. This is maybe partially 1977 01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:42,210 part of it. But this is about fat talking. And this is a meme. 1978 01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:45,750 This is vagina logic Janez and said Mimi brought it up, I feel 1979 01:57:45,750 --> 01:57:48,510 more confident and comfortable using this phrase over and over 1980 01:57:48,510 --> 01:57:53,910 again. It is vagina advertising logic. And I want you to tell me 1981 01:57:53,940 --> 01:57:59,850 now what you're going to this is a video and it is an ad. Id the 1982 01:57:59,850 --> 01:58:03,270 product is not mentioned in the ad. But you're going to tell me 1983 01:58:03,270 --> 01:58:08,610 what it is. And in this there's a clothing store. And these 1984 01:58:08,610 --> 01:58:11,400 women it's fake and these women are all actors, but yes looks 1985 01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:14,670 reality. So you're gonna believe it. And they come in and 1986 01:58:14,670 --> 01:58:19,470 everything on the clothing on the on the articles, has a 1987 01:58:19,500 --> 01:58:27,240 little tag that says, Boy, I will look fat in this or I'm I'm 1988 01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:31,110 too bloated to wear this. It's and then they have all of a 1989 01:58:31,110 --> 01:58:34,020 sudden they're all in this store and they have a conversation 1990 01:58:34,020 --> 01:58:38,070 about it. You tell me? What is the advertising motive behind 1991 01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:40,920 this new fat talking bullying mean? 1992 01:58:41,310 --> 01:58:45,810 93% of women that talk. We believe it's a barrier to 1993 01:58:45,810 --> 01:58:49,710 managing their weight. It happens everywhere. Especially 1994 01:58:49,710 --> 01:58:53,550 when shopping for clothes. Just show how damaging words convey. 1995 01:58:54,030 --> 01:58:58,380 We created a store filled with actual fat talk. Hi, good 1996 01:58:58,380 --> 01:59:07,350 morning. Welcome. This is cute. Very cute. I have a muffin top. 1997 01:59:07,740 --> 01:59:13,560 Cellulite is in my DNA. Hashtag cow. I mean, that's awful. Like 1998 01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:14,370 starting to sweat. 1999 01:59:15,300 --> 01:59:16,650 This design. 2000 01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:20,250 I mean, these are all things that I've said. This is like 2001 01:59:20,490 --> 01:59:23,070 looking at the inside of my head because it makes me feel 2002 01:59:23,070 --> 01:59:26,700 nauseous. I feel sad. I didn't realise how bad it was. That's 2003 01:59:26,700 --> 01:59:27,870 like you're fooling yourself. 2004 01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:30,030 You bully yourself 2005 01:59:30,060 --> 01:59:36,810 instantly you're waking up over filler. 2006 01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:44,940 It's kind of bewildering to me to think that someone could do 2007 01:59:44,940 --> 01:59:47,460 this and say this and feel this way about themselves most 2008 01:59:47,460 --> 01:59:48,150 definitely 2009 01:59:48,270 --> 01:59:54,780 eye opening. It's damaging. I can't talk about myself that 2010 01:59:54,780 --> 01:59:57,930 way. I teach young girls to dance and I don't want to fat 2011 01:59:57,930 --> 01:59:59,970 talk because I'm going to be a role model to them. 2012 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,650 promoting more positive thoughts within myself as well as with my 2013 02:00:04,650 --> 02:00:07,560 friends no more fit. I don't want to hear any more from 2014 02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:11,640 anyone we need to shut it down 2015 02:00:15,179 --> 02:00:18,209 we're all doing this and we're all in this together we need to 2016 02:00:18,209 --> 02:00:21,449 be each other's support reversing the fat talk making it 2017 02:00:21,449 --> 02:00:21,959 positive 2018 02:00:23,700 --> 02:00:28,020 reversing the fat talk shut it down Don't be fat talking now 2019 02:00:28,050 --> 02:00:31,530 first I will say this is a real issue and women are programmed 2020 02:00:31,530 --> 02:00:35,670 to do this did look at just look at television turn on television 2021 02:00:35,670 --> 02:00:40,350 you'll see nothing but this so it's very sad because it is of 2022 02:00:40,350 --> 02:00:44,040 course true that this fat talking is all a part of a 2023 02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:47,910 female popular culture and it's programmed right into the box 2024 02:00:48,090 --> 02:00:54,930 but this is a commercial us and stop what fight fat talk.org is 2025 02:00:54,930 --> 02:00:59,010 brought to you by Kellogg's Special K because you know you 2026 02:00:59,010 --> 02:01:07,380 might as well diet is disgusting. Kellogg's Special K 2027 02:01:08,310 --> 02:01:13,110 is trying to help you stop fat talking by not being fat. And we 2028 02:01:13,110 --> 02:01:17,070 can't use the word fat and the BBC has entire the hour long 2029 02:01:17,070 --> 02:01:21,570 programmes about fat talking. Yeah, 2030 02:01:21,870 --> 02:01:26,010 it's it's almost Clip of the Day. It wasn't Yeah, it's 2031 02:01:26,010 --> 02:01:28,770 video of the day if you saw the video you'd be like wow is 2032 02:01:28,770 --> 02:01:30,600 really good but it's it's not 2033 02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:34,710 get anything off of fight fat talk.org 2034 02:01:35,580 --> 02:01:42,540 fight. Oh, come on. Fight fat talk. Maybe it's fight fat. 2035 02:01:42,540 --> 02:01:48,750 talk.com Let me see. I'm seeing it right here. Shut down. Fat 2036 02:01:48,750 --> 02:01:52,170 talk. Shutdown fight for here. 2037 02:01:52,260 --> 02:01:56,400 You can find it under special k.com English fight fat talk. 2038 02:01:57,360 --> 02:02:02,010 Here it is Sheesh. From joking about cankles to deconstruct 2039 02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:05,820 destructive self deprecation. Fat talk has become part of 2040 02:02:05,820 --> 02:02:09,450 ordinary conversation spoken without a second thoughts. Yeah. 2041 02:02:10,260 --> 02:02:14,010 Yeah, absolutely true. But come on you you guys are jumping on 2042 02:02:14,010 --> 02:02:17,970 this bandwagon to sell your your cardboard sugared flakes. 2043 02:02:19,170 --> 02:02:23,970 Please. products. And there's their cereal bars and their 2044 02:02:23,970 --> 02:02:26,310 treats in there cracking chips and everything. 2045 02:02:26,340 --> 02:02:28,710 Yeah, you get some coupons on this site. Oh, yeah. 2046 02:02:30,180 --> 02:02:32,640 Yeah. Why don't we take a little break here for a second just 2047 02:02:33,060 --> 02:02:36,420 to show my mood by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the 2048 02:02:36,510 --> 02:02:38,850 people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. 2049 02:02:46,620 --> 02:02:47,220 Some people 2050 02:02:47,550 --> 02:02:49,920 like me, a Rubenesque. Woman, 2051 02:02:50,610 --> 02:02:54,720 I would say this. This is a PR driven initiative. This fat 2052 02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:58,050 talk. Yes. This is not advertising agency. Or it's one 2053 02:02:58,050 --> 02:03:01,380 of those agencies that is both Well, it's but it's this is a 2054 02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:05,970 gimmick that is on a higher order of the higher order 2055 02:03:05,970 --> 02:03:07,290 gimmick that's all I can say. Yeah, 2056 02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:10,200 but it is ultimately advertising. And it 2057 02:03:10,230 --> 02:03:13,650 got people to get I'm sure people are saying talking about 2058 02:03:13,650 --> 02:03:16,440 it. Yeah, it'll be on today's show shortly. Oh, yeah. Oh, 2059 02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:22,500 yeah. Fat talk. It's more anti First Amendment stuff is he 2060 02:03:22,500 --> 02:03:24,570 asked me cankles does cankles 2061 02:03:26,010 --> 02:03:28,110 cankles ain't fatness? It's just cankles 2062 02:03:28,590 --> 02:03:32,880 Yeah, it's not fat. It's just as cankles because you get tangles 2063 02:03:33,870 --> 02:03:37,980 so let's think if up with Sir Funko Josh McDonald 150 bucks in 2064 02:03:38,250 --> 02:03:41,820 Brunswick Victoria, Australia. Hi. Merry Christmas, lads. If 2065 02:03:41,820 --> 02:03:44,880 possible. I'd like to hear why you rapping I look. Why are you 2066 02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:51,540 rapping? Why are you rapping? Why are you laughing? Shut up. 2067 02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:59,160 Don't laugh. Shut up. Shut up while you're wrapping around in 2068 02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:03,090 across the water there from our Australian friend is Robert 2069 02:04:03,090 --> 02:04:09,510 Tennant. $144.44 in Waikato, New Zealand, he's listened to for 2070 02:04:09,510 --> 02:04:19,230 70 555 75 575 and he's dropped his money to get the 999 dot 990 2071 02:04:19,620 --> 02:04:23,670 And then we we kick in the extra penny, so he'll be nothing 2072 02:04:23,670 --> 02:04:24,630 today. Nice. 2073 02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:30,960 Now what's gonna happen? Norman Pearson $125 from Macon, 2074 02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:34,380 Georgia, I've been I went to Macon once it's a really 2075 02:04:34,380 --> 02:04:40,680 interesting old town is depressed. And they had a was 2076 02:04:40,710 --> 02:04:43,110 there in this was a funny time a year where there's a lot of 2077 02:04:43,110 --> 02:04:47,820 bugs. Yeah. And I went to a gas station to get gas and they had 2078 02:04:47,820 --> 02:04:51,000 those electric bug killers. They had one on every corner all over 2079 02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:54,660 the third like hundreds of them, not not hundreds of maybe 20 And 2080 02:04:54,690 --> 02:04:58,920 there was a pile of bug dead bugs. That was at least a foot 2081 02:04:58,920 --> 02:05:02,340 high to two feet. Hi, underneath each one of these things when 2082 02:05:02,340 --> 02:05:07,620 the bugs get zapped and they pile up, it's pretty gross. What 2083 02:05:07,620 --> 02:05:12,990 was I? Gee, thanks for that visual. Sorry. Stephen Schultz 2084 02:05:12,990 --> 02:05:13,320 on. 2085 02:05:14,100 --> 02:05:18,000 Hold on a second. Norman has something to say. No. 2086 02:05:19,170 --> 02:05:20,820 Donate, eat kale then 2087 02:05:20,820 --> 02:05:21,990 donate campaign. 2088 02:05:22,740 --> 02:05:25,050 It's mostly eat kale and throw up. 2089 02:05:25,500 --> 02:05:28,830 You know what Mickey gave me as one of my Christmas presents? 2090 02:05:28,980 --> 02:05:33,090 Yeah, kale. Well, almost, you know what a Yale shirt looks 2091 02:05:33,090 --> 02:05:34,950 like T shirt from Yale University 2092 02:05:34,980 --> 02:05:41,400 as kale. Yeah, I have seen that shirt. I shall wear it with 2093 02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:48,180 pride. You should. Stephen Schultz again and since I used 2094 02:05:48,180 --> 02:05:52,860 in South Korea, he says God bless you, you foul mouth. 2095 02:05:52,890 --> 02:05:56,190 malcontents. There you go. I think that's what we are. Yeah. 2096 02:05:56,640 --> 02:06:01,770 Michael Miller and Tiburon $111.11. We have a call out for 2097 02:06:01,830 --> 02:06:05,700 Inga May. We'll have it in a minute. My McHale Garber and 2098 02:06:05,700 --> 02:06:10,740 Issaquah Washington. Jays 811 Dodge 2099 02:06:10,740 --> 02:06:13,260 lemon sister no call Do you want to do this now these calls do 2100 02:06:13,260 --> 02:06:14,310 you want to do the caller? 2101 02:06:14,340 --> 02:06:16,080 I can do the call out now if you want yeah. 2102 02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:17,910 Do you have any do you have everything set up? Do you 2103 02:06:17,910 --> 02:06:20,760 have the I got to I got to Yeah, I got everything I get 2104 02:06:22,830 --> 02:06:24,600 Hold on. Let's do the echo. 2105 02:06:25,500 --> 02:06:28,470 Okay, okay, ladies and gentlemen. All right, here we 2106 02:06:28,470 --> 02:06:33,120 go. All right, gentlemen. Welcome to the in the morning 2107 02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:35,370 club where you can witness beauty on parade all day and 2108 02:06:35,370 --> 02:06:38,760 night No touching please. Let's start things off by bringing to 2109 02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:43,320 the main stage Tracy. This gorgeous gal likes to knit fly 2110 02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:48,120 kites and mountain climb Get a load of her peaks. It's Tracy 2111 02:06:49,380 --> 02:06:51,690 around stay stage to put your hands together bring up a this 2112 02:06:51,690 --> 02:06:55,920 lovely lady has is the 2011 winner for the pole dancing 2113 02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:59,310 nationals held yearly in Pensacola. She is into 2114 02:06:59,310 --> 02:07:03,720 bookbinding and fishing let her lure you into a private dance 2115 02:07:06,420 --> 02:07:09,570 next gen this page comes everyone's fantasy girl Lily set 2116 02:07:09,570 --> 02:07:12,510 to the enemy poster girl those eyes 2117 02:07:12,510 --> 02:07:17,250 or if you give it up for Lily looking over here come 2118 02:07:17,250 --> 02:07:19,920 up to stage three maker welcome but those hands together and 2119 02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:23,280 give it up for Sabine this princess recently won an amateur 2120 02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:26,430 night competition at the club run de veau as you can see 2121 02:07:26,430 --> 02:07:30,510 there's no way she's an amateur cheer on with hard earned 2122 02:07:30,510 --> 02:07:37,860 gratitude boys. It's Sabine. Is that it? Yeah, that's it for 2123 02:07:38,190 --> 02:07:44,250 good. Good work. Good work. It might modulation back to normal. 2124 02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:48,570 You were pretty pretty. Pretty hot. 2125 02:07:48,570 --> 02:07:49,860 They're good. 2126 02:07:50,010 --> 02:07:53,100 Yeah, I'm it's my exit strategy. I'm gonna work one of these 2127 02:07:53,100 --> 02:07:53,490 places. 2128 02:07:53,490 --> 02:07:56,070 Scripts. I liked the script. The writing was good this time. Very 2129 02:07:56,070 --> 02:08:00,000 nice. All right. I like her. Lou. Are you in? 2130 02:08:00,540 --> 02:08:01,530 Yeah, that's a good line. 2131 02:08:01,860 --> 02:08:03,000 That's good line is good. 2132 02:08:03,420 --> 02:08:04,260 Yeah, DJ, 2133 02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:06,870 what do you take? You take your work seriously? I appreciate 2134 02:08:06,870 --> 02:08:07,920 that. I do. 2135 02:08:10,410 --> 02:08:13,710 We just did Michael have McHale actually Garber in Issaquah. 2136 02:08:13,710 --> 02:08:18,330 Washington on an $11.11 started growing on him he says Jays 2137 02:08:18,330 --> 02:08:22,830 Zookal $100 Los Angeles California. Mark link it could 2138 02:08:22,830 --> 02:08:28,290 be SoCal. Mark Lincoln mountains view Minnesota nuts. underdogs 2139 02:08:28,290 --> 02:08:32,550 Vanessa Earhart and no more Belgium. She said as a first 2140 02:08:32,550 --> 02:08:36,030 donation. Well, it says Drepper southern edge of von Pells 2141 02:08:36,030 --> 02:08:36,960 markers Belgium 2142 02:08:37,590 --> 02:08:39,330 but Vanessa is Trevor 2143 02:08:40,590 --> 02:08:48,480 Vanessa. Best regards Trenton rescue Trevor. Trevor 2144 02:08:48,510 --> 02:08:49,770 Vanessa is Trevor. 2145 02:08:50,160 --> 02:08:53,670 I guess he is she is. I don't know. That's good. Paul darling 2146 02:08:53,670 --> 02:08:58,380 Westfield, Massachusetts. $100 Sure. Stephen Vander haev two 2147 02:08:58,410 --> 02:09:01,740 donations from their house 9999 each? 2148 02:09:02,190 --> 02:09:10,050 Well in that case, I think he deserves a 999 Nice two nine or 2149 02:09:10,050 --> 02:09:11,880 Niners nine or nine or 900 2150 02:09:11,880 --> 02:09:16,920 dinars coupe fees feast for 2075 2151 02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:21,120 But that's an actual that's an actual Pay Pal name. Poop feast. 2152 02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:23,520 Apparently poop feast for 20 2153 02:09:23,970 --> 02:09:30,150 Yeah. He says we ride together we die tonight. We checked his 2154 02:09:30,630 --> 02:09:31,170 poop 2155 02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:39,840 420 Is this this is a poop feast for 20. Huh. 2156 02:09:40,860 --> 02:09:45,390 Peter Goodall 75 bucks from Crestwood. Missoura longtime 2157 02:09:45,390 --> 02:09:50,040 Boehner he says Chris fair friend, way front away, I guess 2158 02:09:50,070 --> 02:09:54,390 Fox Point, Wisconsin 75. And here we go with a little short 2159 02:09:54,390 --> 02:10:00,120 segment. Yeah, that's gonna be pretty short today. 6969 did all 2160 02:10:01,050 --> 02:10:06,120 the donors that gave us 6969 which is Eric McCarl, the car 2161 02:10:06,120 --> 02:10:11,070 wits mcaro Cara, Cara wits maybe? David Gallo and John 2162 02:10:11,070 --> 02:10:14,880 Porter that's the end of that 60 bucks from James P man in 2163 02:10:14,910 --> 02:10:22,710 Louisiana. Carl Dietrich could be district but I think is 2164 02:10:22,710 --> 02:10:27,180 Dietrich Dietrich. Carl Dietrich in Lakeland, Florida 5770 2165 02:10:27,480 --> 02:10:33,600 Richard Bauer Sachs, really, Cedar Rapids Iowa, Paul Hargett 2166 02:10:34,020 --> 02:10:40,740 in Hays, Kansas Hayes Nicholas ought in Berlin Deutschland 2167 02:10:41,250 --> 02:10:45,360 Scott Olsen 5533 San Diego California with Nicholas gaming 2168 02:10:45,360 --> 02:10:53,190 with 5555 all fives assorted Paul Douglas Kuhlman in Shevlin, 2169 02:10:53,190 --> 02:11:00,660 Minnesota 5510. Eric huncle, in Berlin 52 Deutschland Eric's 2170 02:11:00,660 --> 02:11:06,150 harjot in Cardiff, nice that you want to do one Baron Jeffrey 2171 02:11:06,150 --> 02:11:10,830 Gerlach in Lincoln California and he's in Lincoln California. 2172 02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:14,520 is appointed now with these are the last ones are 50 bucks each 2173 02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:22,170 for Marcus kasma Wreck shows up a lot and can I Alaska? Shad 2174 02:11:22,170 --> 02:11:25,500 rich and Seattle, Washington Gary Wiley and scrim Washington 2175 02:11:25,500 --> 02:11:29,670 which is just down the road from me as a matter of fact, sir Todd 2176 02:11:29,700 --> 02:11:34,140 Brink in New Berlin, Wisconsin Pierre Colvin in Ballymena at 2177 02:11:34,200 --> 02:11:40,290 the UK somewhere. James Bond check in Plains, Pennsylvania, 2178 02:11:40,500 --> 02:11:42,930 Christopher Anderson in Valencia, California. 2179 02:11:45,060 --> 02:11:46,500 Nursey still Loski 2180 02:11:46,890 --> 02:11:53,520 Yeah, Macy. Macy's to Loski in Calgary. Joseph Mark chalets in 2181 02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:57,690 Dallas. That's nice. And that concludes our list of donors for 2182 02:11:57,690 --> 02:12:01,920 says show 577 remind people to go to dark.org/in A. 2183 02:12:02,370 --> 02:12:05,430 Yes. Thank you all very much. I did want to point out that Paul 2184 02:12:05,430 --> 02:12:09,000 darlings 50th birthday was on Christmas Eve and he was all 2185 02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:11,040 bummed out about that. So we're going to make sure he's on the 2186 02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:14,640 list for the birthdays along with Norman and we do have let's 2187 02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:19,740 see, we have one knighting we have sir Dr. Sharkey Vikon of 2188 02:12:19,740 --> 02:12:22,320 Tennessee Valley sir Hank becomes a Baronet Sir Michael 2189 02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:26,220 Miller becomes Vikon Marin County and Robert Tennant will 2190 02:12:26,220 --> 02:12:29,490 be knighted today. But a reminder we have one more show 2191 02:12:29,490 --> 02:12:32,190 before the end of the year. We'd like as much support as we can 2192 02:12:32,190 --> 02:12:34,500 get to round out the year a little bit ahead of the game if 2193 02:12:34,500 --> 02:12:36,990 possible, because it's always hard once we get into the New 2194 02:12:36,990 --> 02:12:38,100 Year everyone's broke 2195 02:12:39,900 --> 02:12:46,170 from festooning us yeah including us example.org/n A 2196 02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:55,650 and never know Norman Peterson celebrates today Happy Birthday 2197 02:12:55,650 --> 02:12:58,830 along with Paul who turned 50 On Christmas Eve and while we're 2198 02:12:58,830 --> 02:13:02,190 happy you're with us, Paul and only one year ahead of me but 2199 02:13:02,190 --> 02:13:05,130 don't be too bummed out about celebrating Christmas Eve Happy 2200 02:13:05,130 --> 02:13:11,010 Birthday. Money is your best podcast in the universe. And now 2201 02:13:11,010 --> 02:13:15,840 I'd like to whoops hold on can you get your your blades Yeah, I 2202 02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:18,930 brought it very good up there in the in the Seattle's in the 2203 02:13:18,930 --> 02:13:20,670 Washington's wherever Yeah, I 2204 02:13:20,670 --> 02:13:21,840 put it on the planning over they said 2205 02:13:24,180 --> 02:13:27,540 Robert Tannen stepped forward my friend thank you so much. We 2206 02:13:27,540 --> 02:13:30,360 threw in the extra penny as you have not contributed to the best 2207 02:13:30,360 --> 02:13:33,390 podcast the university amount of $1,000 or more. Well, that said 2208 02:13:33,390 --> 02:13:36,870 we kicked in the extra penny so I hereby pronounce the Sir 2209 02:13:36,870 --> 02:13:40,080 Robert Tennant night at the table for you my friend cannabis 2210 02:13:40,080 --> 02:13:42,930 and Cabernet, Heartland brands and Jager bombs opium and warm 2211 02:13:42,930 --> 02:13:45,630 orange juice hookers and blow three geishas in a bucket of 2212 02:13:45,630 --> 02:13:47,820 fried chicken red boys and Chardonnay hot pans and 2213 02:13:47,820 --> 02:13:51,270 Bhubaneswar their mosaic gotchas and Saki vodka in middle of 2214 02:13:51,270 --> 02:13:54,390 buckets and bourbon sparkling cider escorts or if you prefer 2215 02:13:54,480 --> 02:14:00,540 McMahon need and please go to no agenda nation.com/rings and get 2216 02:14:00,540 --> 02:14:03,630 yourself all signed up Eric the show will take care of you 2217 02:14:05,490 --> 02:14:11,640 alrighty i received a note from someone and I don't like to 2218 02:14:11,640 --> 02:14:12,630 dance on the dead 2219 02:14:14,190 --> 02:14:17,430 but that said but it was fine you know the once that 2220 02:14:17,430 --> 02:14:21,060 somebody's dead you can you can you can die but you can 2221 02:14:21,090 --> 02:14:25,560 you can live all them Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well this actually 2222 02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:29,160 led me into something else which is why I want to go through the 2223 02:14:31,500 --> 02:14:34,980 through the process that I that I went down so there was this 2224 02:14:35,340 --> 02:14:39,420 again on a lot of websites. And there was this video of Paul 2225 02:14:39,420 --> 02:14:43,080 Walker Paul Walker of the Fast and Furious who died along with 2226 02:14:43,080 --> 02:14:50,400 his friend and partner actually in in their classic car 2227 02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:56,670 collection venture in the in that fiery crash in Los Angeles. 2228 02:14:57,150 --> 02:15:02,580 And the video showed Paul Walker It was a very well cut video and 2229 02:15:02,580 --> 02:15:04,590 makes no sense to play the audio, but you'll find it in the 2230 02:15:04,590 --> 02:15:11,040 show notes. And it's about his reach out worldwide charity. And 2231 02:15:11,040 --> 02:15:14,400 in this in this video, John, it's Paul Walker and he's 2232 02:15:14,400 --> 02:15:17,340 helping people in Haiti. This is of course, what immediately got 2233 02:15:17,340 --> 02:15:19,800 my attention. I'm like, Well, that didn't work out too. Well, 2234 02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:22,350 if you're helping people in Haiti, what did you actually do? 2235 02:15:23,760 --> 02:15:27,600 And the caption at this of this video, which has been floating 2236 02:15:27,600 --> 02:15:31,260 around is, wow, you know, if only the news played this, you 2237 02:15:31,260 --> 02:15:34,380 know, this is what celebrities really can do. And this is how 2238 02:15:34,380 --> 02:15:38,220 fantastic they are. And so I wanted to know what they had 2239 02:15:38,220 --> 02:15:41,220 done in Haiti. And and this video, by the way, it was 2240 02:15:41,250 --> 02:15:46,770 produced by a high end reality television production unit who 2241 02:15:46,770 --> 02:15:53,520 produce the motorcycle Chop Shop reality show. And I think they 2242 02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:58,080 also do the what's the shrimping, the the crab, the 2243 02:15:58,110 --> 02:16:03,420 lobster boat, whatever, that dangerous catch. So these guys, 2244 02:16:03,450 --> 02:16:07,080 you know, you give them a budget of? Well, actually, the budget 2245 02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:10,530 is here listed in their form 990 $23,000. And they can make a 2246 02:16:10,530 --> 02:16:17,370 great video of you. And I and it was irksome A, because I just 2247 02:16:17,370 --> 02:16:19,650 like, oh, how am I really going to see if this guy was for real 2248 02:16:19,650 --> 02:16:22,410 with this charity or not? And, you know, yeah, I am. And then 2249 02:16:22,410 --> 02:16:29,040 of course, what I found out is now, even $15,000, or $23,000, 2250 02:16:29,310 --> 02:16:32,010 for anything, if it's going to help someone, I think is a good 2251 02:16:32,010 --> 02:16:37,320 thing. So I'm not trying to negate that. But all of this 2252 02:16:37,320 --> 02:16:41,910 stuff in this video is bull crap. So what what he and his, 2253 02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:44,670 the other guy wrote us, I think his name was what they wound up 2254 02:16:44,670 --> 02:16:50,070 doing is they put a share of this, they formed, they formed 2255 02:16:50,070 --> 02:16:54,450 this, this nonprofit, in 2000. Let me just see here, I think 2256 02:16:54,450 --> 02:17:01,800 2009 and put 20 grand into it. And then in 2010, when they got 2257 02:17:01,800 --> 02:17:05,670 all the publicity, there was like, Oh, 700, almost $700,000 2258 02:17:05,670 --> 02:17:09,480 was put in, but it wasn't cash, it was a share of their classic 2259 02:17:09,480 --> 02:17:13,590 car collection, which they trade on in which this guy who was a 2260 02:17:13,590 --> 02:17:19,410 money manager, who was the guy who was driving. He sold that as 2261 02:17:19,410 --> 02:17:23,790 a diversification of your investment portfolio. So this is 2262 02:17:23,790 --> 02:17:27,810 a great way to put you know, to stash some money tax free by 2263 02:17:27,810 --> 02:17:31,440 putting it into your charity. And if you look at this, they 2264 02:17:31,440 --> 02:17:35,880 received $7,000 in gifted rescue equipment, which they gave away. 2265 02:17:35,880 --> 02:17:38,370 And I think this is what they gave away, maybe to the people 2266 02:17:38,370 --> 02:17:41,730 in Haiti, and the year after that, there's no money going in. 2267 02:17:42,210 --> 02:17:47,850 Nothing at the ed ed best in four years time $15,000 was was 2268 02:17:48,030 --> 02:17:51,960 handed out, the majority of it was in travel expenses, probably 2269 02:17:51,960 --> 02:17:57,060 for Paul Walker and his buddies to go shoot this video. So it's 2270 02:17:57,060 --> 02:17:59,970 kind of this whole idea of a celebrity front is a little 2271 02:17:59,970 --> 02:18:05,850 disturbing, I'm sorry, there was $50,000 put in by I think the 2272 02:18:05,850 --> 02:18:11,820 water the Dahveed off cool water for the for the commercial that 2273 02:18:11,820 --> 02:18:14,610 he did for cool water, but then that subsequently went to 2274 02:18:14,610 --> 02:18:19,770 $12,000 of accounting. I mean this, I can do this accounting 2275 02:18:19,800 --> 02:18:23,760 on a on a spreadsheet for this operation. So here's how it 2276 02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:25,890 works. You get a bunch of lawyers and accountants they 2277 02:18:25,890 --> 02:18:29,010 say, oh, you know, what's a good idea? You need to start a 2278 02:18:29,010 --> 02:18:32,640 foundation and you can you can put your your car investment in 2279 02:18:32,640 --> 02:18:35,730 the foundation, so that's all tax free, and just keep that in 2280 02:18:35,730 --> 02:18:38,400 there. And then you know, well of course we're gonna charge you 2281 02:18:38,400 --> 02:18:42,240 $12,000 For you know, setting this all up and, and filing all 2282 02:18:42,240 --> 02:18:44,850 the paperwork, and then you do this one commercial with these 2283 02:18:44,850 --> 02:18:50,040 guys. And then you look great, and it's legit. To us, I'm 2284 02:18:50,040 --> 02:18:53,280 looking at that and I'm thinking okay, these things, there's so 2285 02:18:53,280 --> 02:18:57,000 much bull crap going on with this is just front, just 2286 02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:59,700 pretending and quite honestly a little despicable when you see 2287 02:18:59,700 --> 02:19:02,520 the video. It's you think the guy was single handedly saving 2288 02:19:02,520 --> 02:19:07,920 the world. And then I thought, hey, wait a minute. Where's 2289 02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:12,090 George Clooney and all of this? We've got the Sudan blowing up 2290 02:19:12,090 --> 02:19:18,870 what exactly is going on with with his nonprofits? So I start 2291 02:19:18,870 --> 02:19:19,890 to go look in but 2292 02:19:20,010 --> 02:19:24,060 for you do you have to play it? 2293 02:19:27,330 --> 02:19:30,090 No, of course. Well, I was I was planning on playing it but if 2294 02:19:30,090 --> 02:19:31,980 you want to hear now Sure. George Clooney 2295 02:19:35,070 --> 02:19:35,940 is a spy. 2296 02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:39,660 I was thinking of the call Clooney one. 2297 02:19:40,200 --> 02:19:43,860 Oh, well, we can do that one too. I mean, it's all good. I 2298 02:19:43,860 --> 02:19:52,980 love it. Man, you need distraction. Someone's getting 2299 02:19:52,980 --> 02:19:56,580 cornhole today. Okay, okay. 2300 02:19:56,970 --> 02:19:57,600 They got in 2301 02:19:57,600 --> 02:20:01,770 there. Okay, so this is very similar. I'm George Clooney, his 2302 02:20:01,770 --> 02:20:08,550 organisation is not on our watch Inc. And also, so it seems like 2303 02:20:08,550 --> 02:20:14,190 Not On Our Watch Inc. Put in a lot of money $6 million back in 2304 02:20:14,190 --> 02:20:19,740 2009 It's this is the six guys this is Brad Pitt, Matt Damon 2305 02:20:19,980 --> 02:20:24,900 Clunie Don Cheadle, so they throw they throw some real money 2306 02:20:24,900 --> 02:20:30,690 in here. And if you look at their website, after the initial 2307 02:20:30,720 --> 02:20:34,650 announcement, and and I didn't go back and look and coordinate, 2308 02:20:34,680 --> 02:20:38,310 you know, collaborate to see see what it was overlaid with. I'm 2309 02:20:38,310 --> 02:20:42,750 sure there was something that was beneficial. They really have 2310 02:20:42,750 --> 02:20:47,220 not done anything since 2010. So I love going to these websites 2311 02:20:47,220 --> 02:20:49,320 and looking at you know, the press list, so we'll go to Not 2312 02:20:49,320 --> 02:20:50,280 on our watch. 2313 02:20:51,900 --> 02:20:53,550 Jerry went in troubles in there, too. Yeah. 2314 02:20:53,610 --> 02:20:58,800 Oh, yeah. So Not on our watch project.org/press. The last 2315 02:20:58,800 --> 02:21:02,370 press they have listed bothered to list on their website was 2316 02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:07,770 April 20 2010. So that's a dead charity. There's nothing going 2317 02:21:07,770 --> 02:21:10,830 on. And if you look at their filings with the 990s, it's 2318 02:21:10,830 --> 02:21:13,410 defunct there is it's dead. There's nothing happening 2319 02:21:13,410 --> 02:21:19,110 anymore. It's pretty much closed. But then, you see that 2320 02:21:19,290 --> 02:21:25,230 one of the donors to the knot on our watch, Inc, is the Enough 2321 02:21:25,230 --> 02:21:29,970 Project. Now the Enough Project is actually what is funding the 2322 02:21:29,970 --> 02:21:33,060 satellite Sentinel project, which is what Clooney is 2323 02:21:33,060 --> 02:21:38,670 claiming as his eye in the sky project. But it literally says 2324 02:21:38,700 --> 02:21:43,680 on their website, the satellite Sentinel project or SSP is a 2325 02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:48,120 partnership between the Enough Project and Digital Globe. And 2326 02:21:48,120 --> 02:21:51,120 it conducts monitoring of the border between Sudan and South 2327 02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:55,410 Sudan. So this is this is not coming out of George Clunies. 2328 02:21:56,400 --> 02:22:01,050 Pocket This is coming out of the Enough Project. And you can only 2329 02:22:01,050 --> 02:22:05,280 guess who is in the Enough Project who Who do you think 2330 02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:06,150 runs that? 2331 02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:13,260 Well? I don't know. But I'm sure that when one name comes up, I 2332 02:22:13,260 --> 02:22:14,310 can associate the 2333 02:22:14,310 --> 02:22:16,770 president John John Pendergrass. 2334 02:22:17,070 --> 02:22:20,070 Yeah, Pendergrast to get the hit include his handler, I would, 2335 02:22:20,070 --> 02:22:21,180 right? Yes, that okay. 2336 02:22:21,210 --> 02:22:26,970 Now, but here's, here's what I said. The money comes from 2337 02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:30,450 Pendergrast. His charity goes into the Sentinel project, and 2338 02:22:30,450 --> 02:22:34,230 I'm tracing it back. Now. Where does the money come from for the 2339 02:22:34,230 --> 02:22:37,770 Enough Project? Again, I'm looking at all IRS forms and 2340 02:22:37,770 --> 02:22:41,400 filings the form 990s. Where do you think that comes from? who 2341 02:22:41,400 --> 02:22:46,230 also happens to be a paid Director at $175,000? What 2342 02:22:46,230 --> 02:22:51,210 nonprofit could that be from John with $33 million in takes 2343 02:22:51,480 --> 02:22:52,980 over the 2012. 2344 02:22:53,970 --> 02:22:55,980 Your job is not Clinton. Is it? 2345 02:22:56,640 --> 02:23:00,210 Centre foundation centre Centre for American Progress? 2346 02:23:00,539 --> 02:23:01,769 Oh, those guys, 2347 02:23:01,949 --> 02:23:05,069 right the Centre for American Progress founded by John 2348 02:23:05,069 --> 02:23:09,239 Podesta, who is now a special adviser to President Obama. They 2349 02:23:09,239 --> 02:23:13,319 are directly funding George Clunies satellite eye in the sky 2350 02:23:13,319 --> 02:23:17,099 project. Well, there you have it. I think this gives a very 2351 02:23:17,099 --> 02:23:18,989 different spin on everything and 2352 02:23:19,170 --> 02:23:22,620 Pendergrass give a different spin does. Well, I've 2353 02:23:22,620 --> 02:23:25,260 always wondered where this Pendergrast guy comes from. He 2354 02:23:25,290 --> 02:23:29,610 is a director at the Centre for American Progress, which Okay, 2355 02:23:29,640 --> 02:23:31,230 so did you know that? 2356 02:23:32,370 --> 02:23:34,170 I don't think I did? No. 2357 02:23:35,370 --> 02:23:39,780 No. And they gave, so if you look at and it's really. So if 2358 02:23:39,780 --> 02:23:42,600 you look at the Centre for American Progress, they spend 14 2359 02:23:42,600 --> 02:23:46,680 million on policy programmes, which is basically lobbying. 2360 02:23:47,880 --> 02:23:51,450 They spent 4 million on communications, whatever that 2361 02:23:51,450 --> 02:23:58,620 means. And then the next on the list. $3.5 million is for the 2362 02:23:58,620 --> 02:24:05,010 Enough Project. And the satellite itself cost 900,870 2363 02:24:05,010 --> 02:24:08,310 something $1,000 a year. And then Pendergrast takes another 2364 02:24:08,310 --> 02:24:12,960 $60,000 from the Enough Project as the as the sole director. 2365 02:24:13,830 --> 02:24:17,820 Everybody's taken money and it's all run through this. Well, the 2366 02:24:17,820 --> 02:24:21,480 Centre for American Progress. This is a an extremely left wing 2367 02:24:21,480 --> 02:24:24,210 outfit. I mean, what do you know about this? Because they keep 2368 02:24:24,210 --> 02:24:25,500 cropping up these guys. 2369 02:24:26,490 --> 02:24:30,780 Yeah, it's a big left wing operation as used to front for a 2370 02:24:30,780 --> 02:24:33,660 lot of these other things going on. It says it's fun looking at 2371 02:24:33,660 --> 02:24:38,910 his. Here it is. I'm looking at his wiki page, American human 2372 02:24:38,910 --> 02:24:41,130 rights activist, author and former director of African 2373 02:24:41,130 --> 02:24:45,030 Affairs for the National Security Council. Hello, yeah, 2374 02:24:45,060 --> 02:24:48,660 well, yeah, he's co founder of the Enough Project, a non profit 2375 02:24:48,660 --> 02:24:50,940 human rights organisation affiliated with the Centre for 2376 02:24:50,940 --> 02:24:53,970 American Progress. It's pretty it's right in the front. So it's 2377 02:24:53,970 --> 02:24:56,070 not like a like, we may have known 2378 02:24:56,070 --> 02:24:59,970 this. I didn't I didn't know this. I never saw the molecule 2379 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,580 Look at the wiki page before so yeah, but we've never seen the 2380 02:25:02,580 --> 02:25:05,880 money flows like this. It is. I thought George Clooney was 2381 02:25:05,880 --> 02:25:09,810 paying for this out of his own pocket. But it's not true. The 2382 02:25:09,810 --> 02:25:12,780 Centre for American Progress is paying this through the Enough 2383 02:25:12,780 --> 02:25:18,540 Project. And Pendergrast then puts it The 800 $900,000 for the 2384 02:25:18,540 --> 02:25:22,620 Sentinel project into the other Clunies other nonprofit he's not 2385 02:25:22,620 --> 02:25:26,430 spending a dime of his own money and he's very quiet right now. 2386 02:25:26,430 --> 02:25:29,670 And I bet he's pissed off because he's trying to launch 2387 02:25:29,670 --> 02:25:34,620 his his Monuments Men movie, he doesn't need any of this Sudan 2388 02:25:34,620 --> 02:25:39,690 crap sticking to him. That's why he's not talking. Your will 2389 02:25:39,690 --> 02:25:41,970 is definitely doesn't want the negative thing going on in 2390 02:25:41,970 --> 02:25:49,920 Sudan. Got a note from the economic hitman who is floating 2391 02:25:49,920 --> 02:25:54,180 around Africa, he says is about one minute away from the Dinka 2392 02:25:54,180 --> 02:25:58,410 is which are the dominant tribe in South Sudan. And the 2393 02:25:58,410 --> 02:26:00,930 President that Yeah, where's the cowboy hat is a Dinka. 2394 02:26:01,440 --> 02:26:06,270 And he has and he that guy has what does he have the 11 people 2395 02:26:06,270 --> 02:26:07,620 he's holding hostage? 2396 02:26:09,090 --> 02:26:13,620 I don't know who's holding him hostage. But he says there is a 2397 02:26:14,340 --> 02:26:19,260 there are two minutes away from Rwanda like genocide and 2398 02:26:19,260 --> 02:26:23,220 curiously the Lubos which are one of the two tribes it's which 2399 02:26:23,220 --> 02:26:28,800 is an over kind of a meta tribe, that we're partly it's kind of 2400 02:26:28,800 --> 02:26:32,010 the deacons aren't that far away from the Rwanda head choppers 2401 02:26:32,340 --> 02:26:33,180 and the 2402 02:26:33,720 --> 02:26:35,640 once you say spear Chuckers while you're at it, that's 2403 02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:36,150 better head 2404 02:26:36,150 --> 02:26:38,490 choppers they chop hands off with their with their Yeah, 2405 02:26:38,520 --> 02:26:43,680 machetes, yeah, Chuck spears. Sure. I'm pretty sure. And it 2406 02:26:43,680 --> 02:26:46,950 turns out one interesting thing about the Dinka is even though 2407 02:26:46,950 --> 02:26:49,500 the term makes him sound funny Dinkus. They're actually the 2408 02:26:49,500 --> 02:26:55,560 tallest tribe in Africa. The average height is 511, six foot. 2409 02:26:56,520 --> 02:26:59,550 We have a couple of at least one NBA player from this group. But 2410 02:26:59,550 --> 02:27:01,740 he says is going to he says unless something is done, 2411 02:27:01,740 --> 02:27:05,580 there's going to be a genocide, like it or not in South Sudan, 2412 02:27:05,610 --> 02:27:08,010 why that's a clue he doesn't have anything to do with it. I'm 2413 02:27:08,010 --> 02:27:08,460 seeing 2414 02:27:08,460 --> 02:27:14,220 a complete replay of Libya. Regardless of what's happening 2415 02:27:14,220 --> 02:27:18,630 on the ground, we're we're taking it through the UN 2416 02:27:18,630 --> 02:27:21,840 Security the United Nations Security Council process. First 2417 02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:26,400 here's here's a notification to Congress that the President said 2418 02:27:26,400 --> 02:27:28,620 President Obama notified Congress by letter today that he 2419 02:27:28,620 --> 02:27:32,850 sent 46 US troops yesterday to evacuate Americans from the town 2420 02:27:32,850 --> 02:27:36,900 of bore in South Sudan, a place that appears close to civil war. 2421 02:27:37,290 --> 02:27:40,470 Mr. Obama told Congress he may take further military action 2422 02:27:40,470 --> 02:27:43,890 under the War Powers Act to protect Americans in South 2423 02:27:43,890 --> 02:27:44,340 Sudan. 2424 02:27:44,370 --> 02:27:48,480 In fact, he's already done that and has sent in an additional 2425 02:27:48,510 --> 02:27:53,580 approximately 150 We had a presidential proclamation about 2426 02:27:53,580 --> 02:27:56,880 the African Growth and Opportunity Act. So we're 2427 02:27:56,880 --> 02:28:01,140 really, really cranking up the heat. And here is our brand new 2428 02:28:01,140 --> 02:28:04,110 ambassador to the United Nations. Samantha Powers wife of 2429 02:28:04,110 --> 02:28:10,080 Cass Sunstein, who was one of the co authors of the document 2430 02:28:10,080 --> 02:28:12,960 that apparently had nothing but constitutional lawyers looking 2431 02:28:12,960 --> 02:28:19,380 at it, except for of course, the CIA guy and the let's infiltrate 2432 02:28:19,380 --> 02:28:23,940 the conspiracy theory groups people guy. And she has a lot of 2433 02:28:23,970 --> 02:28:27,600 ohms and ahhs to say about the Central African Republic and 2434 02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:30,780 Sudan. But one thing's for sure, we're sending in more troops, 2435 02:28:30,780 --> 02:28:33,630 more troops, more peace keepers. 2436 02:28:33,930 --> 02:28:36,150 Finally, as you know, I just returned from the Central 2437 02:28:36,150 --> 02:28:39,030 African Republic, where I had the chance to witness just how 2438 02:28:39,030 --> 02:28:42,600 dire the situation is on the ground. And even as we discuss 2439 02:28:42,600 --> 02:28:46,530 the situation in South Sudan, and of course, discuss Syria, I 2440 02:28:46,530 --> 02:28:50,040 want to just say that the situation in car begs the 2441 02:28:50,040 --> 02:28:53,400 world's attention. terrible atrocities have occurred, 2442 02:28:53,430 --> 02:28:56,760 terrible atrocities are occurring. We met with one woman 2443 02:28:56,760 --> 02:29:01,080 whose husband had been stabbed in front of her his body then 2444 02:29:01,080 --> 02:29:04,980 doused in gasoline, and then set on fire in front of her very 2445 02:29:04,980 --> 02:29:05,490 eyes. 2446 02:29:05,880 --> 02:29:08,340 You know, what I'm All I'm missing is the incubators with 2447 02:29:08,340 --> 02:29:11,730 babies does, you know throw that one out? Suzanne, Samantha 2448 02:29:11,730 --> 02:29:14,310 Carter, what those who have survived violence of this nature 2449 02:29:14,310 --> 02:29:18,540 are crying out for his justice. And one of the worries that we 2450 02:29:18,540 --> 02:29:21,510 came away from the Central African Republic with was that 2451 02:29:21,510 --> 02:29:25,350 those who are not seeing justice be done, are increasingly 2452 02:29:25,350 --> 02:29:28,080 tempted to take matters into their own hands and that you're 2453 02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:31,620 seeing a cycle of retribution and violence that is very, very 2454 02:29:31,620 --> 02:29:35,790 alarming. But again, overwhelming consensus, 2455 02:29:35,790 --> 02:29:39,960 overwhelming desire to move quickly. You know, very 2456 02:29:39,960 --> 02:29:45,150 significant alarm on the part of council members by the accounts 2457 02:29:45,150 --> 02:29:50,490 by Edmond and and others. Possibility. 2458 02:29:52,080 --> 02:29:54,540 Now she's going to start Yes, she's going to start to lose it. 2459 02:29:54,810 --> 02:29:57,660 She's going into the Sudan talk. Now, of course, the United 2460 02:29:57,660 --> 02:29:58,680 Nations she's talking about 2461 02:29:58,680 --> 02:30:01,770 Central African Republic. And then Sudan in the same breath. 2462 02:30:01,770 --> 02:30:02,220 Yes. 2463 02:30:02,700 --> 02:30:05,010 Oh, yeah, she's completely confused. That's why she goes 2464 02:30:05,040 --> 02:30:10,770 up. The United Nations had to retract their story about this 2465 02:30:10,770 --> 02:30:14,580 mass grave apparently in South Sudan, and they're killing 2466 02:30:14,580 --> 02:30:18,810 children chopping their heads off. Now, it may be true. But 2467 02:30:18,810 --> 02:30:22,950 the the it's not coming out very well with good old Samantha 2468 02:30:22,980 --> 02:30:26,100 confrontations at UN bases where civilians are gathered. I mean, 2469 02:30:26,100 --> 02:30:30,480 the there is, this was not a politicised or ideological or 2470 02:30:30,480 --> 02:30:33,870 editorial meeting. This was a meeting where everybody was 2471 02:30:33,870 --> 02:30:36,360 scratching their heads to see how can we and rolling up their 2472 02:30:36,360 --> 02:30:39,570 sleeves to see how can we help as quickly as possible? That 2473 02:30:39,570 --> 02:30:40,140 pipeline 2474 02:30:40,140 --> 02:30:43,170 that goes from South Sudan all the way to the north into the 2475 02:30:43,170 --> 02:30:47,070 Red Sea? Any idea who owns that pipeline? 2476 02:30:49,080 --> 02:30:54,300 I don't know. Soros trainers. Oh, okay. That makes sense. 2477 02:30:54,300 --> 02:30:58,320 And we recognise that it's not even when the Security Council 2478 02:30:58,320 --> 02:31:02,250 has authorised this increase in troops in this intermission 2479 02:31:02,250 --> 02:31:04,530 cooperation, intermission cooperation, 2480 02:31:04,530 --> 02:31:07,950 five and a half 1000 troops of peace keepers, 2481 02:31:08,760 --> 02:31:15,300 the delivery on those sort of forced realignments will not be 2482 02:31:15,300 --> 02:31:18,690 immediate. And so that's again, another reason for the urgency, 2483 02:31:18,690 --> 02:31:21,240 but the gravity of the situation on the ground, the sense that 2484 02:31:21,240 --> 02:31:25,860 worse could come from, and the recognition that it's going to 2485 02:31:25,860 --> 02:31:30,600 take at least a few days to to actually move resources. Well, 2486 02:31:30,600 --> 02:31:33,630 there's no resolution yet. We're still negotiating it and we 2487 02:31:33,630 --> 02:31:34,530 actually got some 2488 02:31:34,950 --> 02:31:39,480 she's so out of her depth here. She does not know she does not 2489 02:31:39,480 --> 02:31:42,120 understand she does not know what's going on. She does not 2490 02:31:42,120 --> 02:31:43,590 belong in this job. 2491 02:31:43,890 --> 02:31:46,650 No, not at all. When you see her she looks like a scared little 2492 02:31:46,650 --> 02:31:47,040 girl. 2493 02:31:47,070 --> 02:31:50,370 He does not know what she's she does not know the real agenda 2494 02:31:50,370 --> 02:31:53,910 that's going on here. That's the thing that bothers me. She 2495 02:31:53,910 --> 02:31:55,410 doesn't know what's really happening, 2496 02:31:55,440 --> 02:31:57,660 not read in because she's doing and trust her. 2497 02:31:58,350 --> 02:32:02,040 Some I thought, very thoughtful comments from a number of 2498 02:32:02,340 --> 02:32:06,420 delegations, so we'll need to incorporate them. Again, 2499 02:32:06,420 --> 02:32:08,580 everyone's on the same page. So it's just about creating the 2500 02:32:08,580 --> 02:32:09,900 best product possible. 2501 02:32:09,930 --> 02:32:13,560 What is the best product? This is where she's, it's about 2502 02:32:13,560 --> 02:32:17,460 creating the best product what she talking about this? I don't 2503 02:32:17,460 --> 02:32:20,880 know, I think she's maybe she's trying to sell like Bitcoin or 2504 02:32:20,880 --> 02:32:24,330 something. I don't know. This the best product, I think that 2505 02:32:24,330 --> 02:32:27,840 what she means by best product is either the best product that 2506 02:32:27,840 --> 02:32:30,900 we can steal from there or best product to kill people with. So 2507 02:32:30,900 --> 02:32:33,300 it's just about creating the best product possible, 2508 02:32:33,690 --> 02:32:35,610 recognising that we're eager to move this ASAP, 2509 02:32:36,270 --> 02:32:38,970 with our best products, so we can recognise me to move this 2510 02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:39,510 ASAP. 2511 02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:44,220 One of the questions that is on the table is how quickly we 2512 02:32:44,220 --> 02:32:47,280 would wish the Secretary General to record report back to the 2513 02:32:47,280 --> 02:32:49,380 council. And I think one of the things that we're all in 2514 02:32:49,380 --> 02:32:53,160 agreement of is both in terms of the ground situation and whether 2515 02:32:53,160 --> 02:32:58,110 these redeployments themselves will provide this sufficient 2516 02:32:58,110 --> 02:33:00,720 reinforcements in order to perform civilian protection in 2517 02:33:00,720 --> 02:33:03,570 order to ensure that UN peacekeepers themselves are also 2518 02:33:03,570 --> 02:33:06,450 not isolated, and vulnerable in the way that some of them have 2519 02:33:06,450 --> 02:33:06,870 been. 2520 02:33:07,200 --> 02:33:11,100 What I hear when she's talking like this is someone who has no 2521 02:33:11,100 --> 02:33:15,330 idea what war is really like, no idea what dead people really 2522 02:33:15,330 --> 02:33:21,120 look like, can't really she's been isolated from reality. And 2523 02:33:21,120 --> 02:33:26,880 she talks about a troop deployments as a product. Woman 2524 02:33:26,880 --> 02:33:31,800 is insane, but not insane. She's She does not belong in this 2525 02:33:32,400 --> 02:33:38,820 position. Because she really doesn't understand it. And with 2526 02:33:38,820 --> 02:33:41,460 this black hat guy, that hat that was given to him by George 2527 02:33:41,460 --> 02:33:47,910 Bush, he is indeed, detaining 11. So he's not necessarily the 2528 02:33:47,910 --> 02:33:52,230 good guy, but I think it clears his name. I have a feeling that 2529 02:33:52,230 --> 02:33:55,710 he's got some of the goods and that's why we're on his side for 2530 02:33:55,710 --> 02:33:59,640 some reason. I'm not claiming to understand this at all myself. 2531 02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:08,310 But, you know, it's very obvious what what South Sudan has. And 2532 02:34:08,310 --> 02:34:11,640 that's all the oil that the North wants and goes all the way 2533 02:34:11,640 --> 02:34:17,820 up with the Chinese pipeline to the Red Sea. And either we want 2534 02:34:17,820 --> 02:34:23,250 to get the prices up by intervening and creating 2535 02:34:23,250 --> 02:34:26,310 crackers. I can only smell us all over that John, I'm smelling 2536 02:34:26,340 --> 02:34:27,060 us. 2537 02:34:30,330 --> 02:34:33,180 Well, you know what the end result will be what we're 2538 02:34:33,180 --> 02:34:35,610 looking for rubble. 2539 02:34:38,820 --> 02:34:43,290 As someone sent me a thing about Rubble, was that about your 2540 02:34:43,290 --> 02:34:51,090 rubble theory? Oh, I see. The FDR Drive in New York City, 2541 02:34:51,690 --> 02:34:55,500 apparently was built from World War Two rubble from London. 2542 02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:04,170 Why? Don't really have enough of our own rubble. Apparently not. 2543 02:35:04,200 --> 02:35:07,170 Well, they're shipping in rubble from London during World 2544 02:35:07,170 --> 02:35:09,870 War Two, the loop of Office savagely bombed the city of 2545 02:35:09,870 --> 02:35:14,760 Bristol in England a major port for American supply ships. After 2546 02:35:14,760 --> 02:35:17,430 the supplies were unloaded the American ships had no British 2547 02:35:17,430 --> 02:35:20,790 goods to replace them on the return trip and needed ballasts 2548 02:35:20,790 --> 02:35:25,110 for stability. So they loaded up rubble from Bristol's bombed out 2549 02:35:25,110 --> 02:35:28,560 buildings back in New York, the ships dumped the ballast from 2550 02:35:28,560 --> 02:35:32,100 23rd to 34th, who does landfill for what would become the East 2551 02:35:32,100 --> 02:35:34,350 River drive now the FDR Drive. 2552 02:35:36,690 --> 02:35:40,320 That's a fascinating anecdote. Well, it's interesting. Next 2553 02:35:40,320 --> 02:35:42,690 time you're on the FDR, you can talk at you and bring it up and 2554 02:35:42,690 --> 02:35:44,580 be just insufferable bore. 2555 02:35:46,170 --> 02:35:47,880 Learned that on the no agenda show. 2556 02:35:53,100 --> 02:35:53,970 Well, this isn't gonna 2557 02:35:53,970 --> 02:35:57,360 end well. No, it's not It can't end well. 2558 02:35:57,540 --> 02:36:00,390 No, because it wouldn't be in our best interest for the end. 2559 02:36:00,390 --> 02:36:00,720 Well, 2560 02:36:00,750 --> 02:36:04,740 no, no. unforced and oil is going down oil is down to what 2561 02:36:04,740 --> 02:36:09,120 are we at 889 bucks I think now, or is that that's not 2562 02:36:09,120 --> 02:36:10,680 necessarily good for the oil people. 2563 02:36:11,370 --> 02:36:14,790 Well, it shouldn't be should only be 40 bucks. Yeah, that'll 2564 02:36:14,790 --> 02:36:15,330 happen. 2565 02:36:16,290 --> 02:36:20,370 I got an email from my buddy, who's keeping an eye on Turkey. 2566 02:36:21,870 --> 02:36:26,130 And there was now what's happened here is the Gulen 2567 02:36:26,130 --> 02:36:31,650 Movement has parted ways with Eric Googliness. Schools have 2568 02:36:31,650 --> 02:36:34,800 parted ways with Erawan. And everyone there's all kinds of 2569 02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:35,790 people are getting arrested think 2570 02:36:36,150 --> 02:36:41,490 crude oils. 9955 Oh, really, I'm sorry. still high. Go on. 2571 02:36:42,060 --> 02:36:46,050 The Gulenist. I have kind of split off from air Dhawan. And 2572 02:36:46,050 --> 02:36:49,950 they used to be backers from what I can understand. And crap 2573 02:36:49,950 --> 02:36:55,710 is happening now the leader of the Golan Heights movement lives 2574 02:36:55,740 --> 02:37:00,810 in Pennsylvania and was brought in by the CIA in the State 2575 02:37:00,810 --> 02:37:06,330 Department and, and there's at least 100 of these Gulin schools 2576 02:37:06,330 --> 02:37:10,290 in America 600 worldwide. They're all over the place. And 2577 02:37:10,290 --> 02:37:16,080 the the fear is that there is teachings going on that are not 2578 02:37:16,080 --> 02:37:19,680 necessarily in line with our American culture and our values. 2579 02:37:21,150 --> 02:37:23,610 And it looks like in Louisiana, they're on to something 2580 02:37:23,699 --> 02:37:27,539 a man on his knees appears to be praying as the FBI raided a 2581 02:37:27,539 --> 02:37:31,709 school in Baton Rouge. The feds took off with a vanload of stuff 2582 02:37:31,709 --> 02:37:34,529 but won't say what they're after. Good evening. I'm Michael 2583 02:37:34,529 --> 02:37:37,409 Marsh. Tonight the latest scandal involving a crippled 2584 02:37:37,439 --> 02:37:40,469 charter system. You're looking at what the FBI spent the 2585 02:37:40,469 --> 02:37:43,109 evening doing it. Kenilworth charter school that's near the 2586 02:37:43,109 --> 02:37:45,599 intersection of Highland Road in Kenilworth and South Baton 2587 02:37:45,599 --> 02:37:49,829 Rouge. They were coming and going with boxes of stuff. The 2588 02:37:49,829 --> 02:37:53,159 school is run by Pelican Educational Foundation. The 2589 02:37:53,159 --> 02:37:56,399 organisation is tied to a family from Turkey that would be the 2590 02:37:56,399 --> 02:37:59,639 Gulin guy and it was a trip to Turkey that got a former member 2591 02:37:59,639 --> 02:38:02,369 of the Board of Elementary and Secondary Education in trouble 2592 02:38:02,489 --> 02:38:06,119 earlier this year. Bessie member Linda Johnson was fine for 2593 02:38:06,119 --> 02:38:09,329 breaking the laws and she didn't pay a dime for that trip. 2594 02:38:09,449 --> 02:38:12,659 So there's something going on there's there's movements afoot. 2595 02:38:13,259 --> 02:38:20,159 And this is a pure Gulin finance operation this school and 2596 02:38:20,159 --> 02:38:22,859 they're taking out administration and there's 2597 02:38:22,859 --> 02:38:23,639 something going on 2598 02:38:25,470 --> 02:38:27,540 I think we've said that in the last show there's something 2599 02:38:27,540 --> 02:38:28,080 going on right 2600 02:38:28,080 --> 02:38:30,570 but they just don't know what it is but this is new this is a new 2601 02:38:30,570 --> 02:38:31,590 piece of information 2602 02:38:31,620 --> 02:38:34,200 Yeah, no this will keep happening if we pay attention. 2603 02:38:34,200 --> 02:38:35,820 This is the first raid that I 2604 02:38:35,820 --> 02:38:40,320 think we've seen on the Gulin charter school. We may see more 2605 02:38:40,440 --> 02:38:44,850 and we have no details well the only details we have is what's 2606 02:38:44,850 --> 02:38:50,310 going on what we know we don't we have no details we really 2607 02:38:50,310 --> 02:38:51,660 don't know 2608 02:38:51,690 --> 02:38:56,700 but this sums up so we can figure it out this not just 2609 02:38:56,730 --> 02:38:59,040 they're gonna have just with Texas is the stronghold where 2610 02:38:59,040 --> 02:39:03,660 the most of these places are a lot of them Yeah. Call harmony 2611 02:39:03,660 --> 02:39:04,350 or something like that. 2612 02:39:05,460 --> 02:39:08,340 The Harmony schools Yeah, thanks. So yeah. 2613 02:39:10,260 --> 02:39:12,480 Well, I picked up a clip you know, the one of these 2614 02:39:12,480 --> 02:39:17,820 retrospectives Yes, I just changed the topic here. This is 2615 02:39:17,820 --> 02:39:23,370 the from the best to C span a couple years ago. This clip is 2616 02:39:23,370 --> 02:39:26,370 the best of C span Collins I thought it would be worth 2617 02:39:26,550 --> 02:39:29,670 sharing phone calls of one of three life our next called 2618 02:39:29,670 --> 02:39:31,080 Newark New Jersey Go ahead. 2619 02:39:31,680 --> 02:39:35,700 Yeah, hi, I got myself into really bad debt. I was paying 2620 02:39:35,700 --> 02:39:40,260 one credit quote off with another for over four years. It 2621 02:39:40,260 --> 02:39:43,230 just went on and on and you know, I mean, I'm like really 2622 02:39:43,470 --> 02:39:46,620 broke right now about to file bankruptcy and you know, I'm 2623 02:39:46,620 --> 02:39:51,360 trying to get a penile implant. I need to Lord my pick up a 2624 02:39:51,360 --> 02:39:55,230 chick these days. North Carolina is up next Good morning. 2625 02:39:56,760 --> 02:40:00,000 And why didn't it was like no agenda show. Something anything 2626 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:00,330 thing. 2627 02:40:00,660 --> 02:40:03,780 Yeah, we get weak this guy gets on but no agenda. People don't 2628 02:40:03,780 --> 02:40:12,900 care. Okay, that was dubious. No Tip of the Day. No, 2629 02:40:12,900 --> 02:40:19,020 you don't get credit for the day for that? No, I did get an email 2630 02:40:19,020 --> 02:40:24,960 from one of our producers. I was listening to the latest episode 2631 02:40:24,990 --> 02:40:27,960 and putting everything together. I'm a freelance technician for a 2632 02:40:27,960 --> 02:40:31,470 company that I'm not going to mention their company that finds 2633 02:40:31,470 --> 02:40:35,460 gigs for techs locally. Recently, I've been involved in 2634 02:40:35,460 --> 02:40:38,730 a post to replace all of the point of sale units at all 2635 02:40:38,730 --> 02:40:43,410 targets nationwide. For obvious reasons, target needed all this 2636 02:40:43,410 --> 02:40:47,010 done by the Christmas season. I'd forgotten all about it until 2637 02:40:47,010 --> 02:40:49,680 John started in about the different point of sale systems. 2638 02:40:49,830 --> 02:40:52,770 Since target specifically said the theft happened inside the 2639 02:40:52,770 --> 02:40:55,860 store, it stands to reason the new point of sale system had 2640 02:40:55,860 --> 02:40:58,830 skimmers installed, and that would implicate China, since all 2641 02:40:58,830 --> 02:41:02,640 of the units were manufactured and assembled there. That's the 2642 02:41:02,640 --> 02:41:03,750 news I didn't have 2643 02:41:04,950 --> 02:41:06,450 that wouldn't be reported anywhere 2644 02:41:06,480 --> 02:41:08,070 I didn't hear well. Of course, no one's 2645 02:41:08,070 --> 02:41:11,520 watching because his target was to talk about I think you're the 2646 02:41:11,520 --> 02:41:13,980 point you made in the last show, which is that this is a big 2647 02:41:13,980 --> 02:41:18,750 cover up story because Target is a huge advertiser, especially 2648 02:41:18,750 --> 02:41:19,620 during Christmas. 2649 02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:23,490 Someone took it a little bit further which intrigued me 2650 02:41:23,760 --> 02:41:25,500 Yeah, I saw this email 2651 02:41:26,580 --> 02:41:31,710 that that the if you look at so if you look at the target's 2652 02:41:31,710 --> 02:41:36,660 competitor Walmart Walmart that Hillary Clinton was on the board 2653 02:41:36,660 --> 02:41:40,080 of Walmart the Obamas always launch everything with Walmart 2654 02:41:40,080 --> 02:41:45,690 didn't wasn't it to the first lady who was caught they 2655 02:41:45,690 --> 02:41:49,860 paparazzi got her shopping at Walmart remember that? No, she 2656 02:41:49,860 --> 02:41:52,320 was in the in the checkout line she's like yes sometimes we like 2657 02:41:52,320 --> 02:41:54,900 to sneak away at night I'll you you remember that? Yeah, bull 2658 02:41:54,900 --> 02:41:59,190 crap right. And the Let's Move campaign. Oh, the Healthy Eating 2659 02:41:59,190 --> 02:42:03,480 it's all Walmart Walmart and then Beyonce comes out and 2660 02:42:03,720 --> 02:42:05,610 promotes WalMart where? 2661 02:42:05,640 --> 02:42:08,010 Well you know I have the funny thing about to be honest with 2662 02:42:08,010 --> 02:42:11,220 you. I do have a clip. When she went to the today on The Today 2663 02:42:11,220 --> 02:42:13,650 Show. They went on and on it with Beyonce. This is a 2664 02:42:13,650 --> 02:42:16,530 promotion for her album. It shouldn't have been run at all. 2665 02:42:16,770 --> 02:42:19,830 But they ran it because you know they made some there's money to 2666 02:42:19,830 --> 02:42:23,970 be made. But apparently Walmart never added up. Because they 2667 02:42:23,970 --> 02:42:27,330 never once mentioned again like today's show does they didn't 2668 02:42:27,330 --> 02:42:30,300 give us the fact that was a Walmart that this happened in 2669 02:42:30,660 --> 02:42:31,650 and sometimes 2670 02:42:31,650 --> 02:42:35,130 waiting into the last few days to do your holiday shopping does 2671 02:42:35,130 --> 02:42:39,090 pay off after all, because Grammy winning pop star Beyonce 2672 02:42:39,090 --> 02:42:42,480 stopped by a store in Tewksbury, Massachusetts to do some 2673 02:42:42,480 --> 02:42:45,270 shopping and to promote her new album and when she got out to 2674 02:42:45,270 --> 02:42:48,450 the checkout stand she had a surprise for everyone in the 2675 02:42:48,450 --> 02:42:53,610 store right now. The first $50 of your holiday gifts on 2676 02:43:00,780 --> 02:43:03,600 making friends and fans everywhere that's right Beyonce 2677 02:43:03,600 --> 02:43:08,070 picking up the first $50 of the tab for everyone there so and 2678 02:43:08,070 --> 02:43:10,530 picking up the baby is so cute. 2679 02:43:13,140 --> 02:43:15,360 So I thought that was another dubious report. 2680 02:43:15,869 --> 02:43:18,869 By the way chat room corrects me Michelle Obama was snapped at 2681 02:43:18,869 --> 02:43:23,249 Target not at Walmart so that target Walmart that blows the 2682 02:43:23,249 --> 02:43:28,229 seat well there is a target Walmart war for sure. But the 2683 02:43:28,259 --> 02:43:34,529 the Justice Department is investigating target to see if 2684 02:43:34,529 --> 02:43:39,299 they can nail them for negligence. I find this the lack 2685 02:43:39,299 --> 02:43:42,779 of reporting on this thing in general just really troublesome. 2686 02:43:43,170 --> 02:43:47,250 Yeah, yeah, no, I didn't hear that either. Wow. Yeah. 2687 02:43:47,280 --> 02:43:51,690 negligence. Yeah. Next what are they did what about the Bank of 2688 02:43:51,690 --> 02:43:54,270 America? What about all these other data breaches? I've never 2689 02:43:54,270 --> 02:43:56,610 heard anybody suggest negligence that's 2690 02:43:56,610 --> 02:43:59,700 why I think our producer was saying you know maybe that maybe 2691 02:43:59,700 --> 02:44:04,260 this is a Walmart target thing. Hey, why why does the just the 2692 02:44:04,290 --> 02:44:10,320 Justice Department investigates data breach there's already a 2693 02:44:10,320 --> 02:44:15,120 number of lawsuits which should go we should get in on that I 2694 02:44:15,120 --> 02:44:16,500 can get on a lawsuit 2695 02:44:17,130 --> 02:44:22,410 yeah I think was killed Jr. Got got hit he got hit so I you 2696 02:44:22,410 --> 02:44:26,010 know, I called the bank or mechanics bank and they asked 2697 02:44:26,010 --> 02:44:28,800 and he's and they apparently just so there was a memo going 2698 02:44:28,800 --> 02:44:30,660 around you There we go. Let's just look it up and see there's 2699 02:44:30,660 --> 02:44:35,550 a strange charges and I don't believe in, in bank by email by 2700 02:44:36,060 --> 02:44:40,830 computer. So she said Well, let me see. And she says, Ah, there 2701 02:44:40,830 --> 02:44:43,410 you didn't buy anything from you bought something with target the 2702 02:44:43,410 --> 02:44:45,600 other day, which I did, because it was everything was on sale. 2703 02:44:46,320 --> 02:44:50,130 And she says but you didn't buy anything from Target after 2704 02:44:50,130 --> 02:44:51,060 Thanksgiving. 2705 02:44:52,170 --> 02:44:55,230 there but it was up until December 15. No, I know, 2706 02:44:55,260 --> 02:44:58,620 but I didn't between Thanksgiving and December 15. 2707 02:44:58,620 --> 02:45:02,070 She knew these dates. Ha, she specifically looked to see if 2708 02:45:02,070 --> 02:45:06,810 there was any activity at target within the proscribed dates 2709 02:45:06,810 --> 02:45:09,840 which would have made I could have been my car it could have 2710 02:45:09,840 --> 02:45:13,650 been stolen. And so she said don't worry about it. So they 2711 02:45:13,650 --> 02:45:16,920 apparently did their customer service people are given the 2712 02:45:17,700 --> 02:45:22,140 information about data if you look for this, right. Well, that 2713 02:45:22,140 --> 02:45:26,460 that was at least they're doing their job. Well, 2714 02:45:26,490 --> 02:45:29,940 I think I'm going to go back to as much cash as possible I found 2715 02:45:29,940 --> 02:45:35,820 the entire experience very annoying. Nikki still doesn't 2716 02:45:35,820 --> 02:45:40,440 have a card back a new card, or sharing a card which has been 2717 02:45:40,440 --> 02:45:44,910 limited the whole thing is just Yeah, I don't know. I don't know 2718 02:45:44,910 --> 02:45:47,610 Where's where's my great cyber force? where's the where's the 2719 02:45:47,610 --> 02:45:48,090 cyber is 2720 02:45:48,090 --> 02:45:50,820 the NSA. There's got nailed this before it was the 2721 02:45:50,820 --> 02:45:55,200 storm troopers. Yeah, it should be saving are asked for all of 2722 02:45:55,200 --> 02:46:01,500 this. Now. None of that. I want a little clip. Let's are you I 2723 02:46:01,500 --> 02:46:01,710 got 2724 02:46:02,039 --> 02:46:03,989 a couple of things I can get rid of. Yeah, let's 2725 02:46:09,060 --> 02:46:15,780 do a little back. We're gonna back up to 1998 9098 and C span 2726 02:46:15,780 --> 02:46:18,720 clip, another retrospective one of the great little moments in 2727 02:46:18,720 --> 02:46:19,770 the history of Congress. 2728 02:46:19,800 --> 02:46:24,060 Pardon me. But today I rise because I am outraged by a New 2729 02:46:24,060 --> 02:46:26,970 York Times report that the Department of Defence has 2730 02:46:26,970 --> 02:46:32,790 requested between 50 and $100 million for Viagra, the new sex 2731 02:46:32,790 --> 02:46:36,570 drug designed for impotent men. Instead of offsetting this 2732 02:46:36,570 --> 02:46:41,160 request from its $265 billion budget. Secretary Cohen has 2733 02:46:41,160 --> 02:46:45,120 requested an increase in the 1999 military readiness bill 2734 02:46:45,600 --> 02:46:48,750 when the military brass was on Capitol Hill saying that a 2735 02:46:48,750 --> 02:46:51,840 reasonable belt tightening had resulted in an impotent 2736 02:46:51,840 --> 02:46:55,110 military. I guess I didn't fully understand the scope of the 2737 02:46:55,110 --> 02:47:00,270 problem. With $50 million worth of Viagra, the entire military 2738 02:47:00,270 --> 02:47:04,920 industrial complex will be last cut and ready to rock. Pretty 2739 02:47:04,920 --> 02:47:09,000 scary, huh? But you know, Mr. Speaker, they just don't get it. 2740 02:47:09,180 --> 02:47:13,680 With Monica gay, the Aberdeen Proving Ground sex scandal and 2741 02:47:13,680 --> 02:47:17,520 widespread sexual assaults throughout the military. Our 2742 02:47:17,520 --> 02:47:20,820 commander in chief and his Secretary of Defence, concocted 2743 02:47:20,820 --> 02:47:23,580 this idea that our military needs this extraordinary 2744 02:47:23,580 --> 02:47:28,590 expenditure. Let's have no more talk of malfunctioning missile 2745 02:47:28,590 --> 02:47:30,930 salvation, was that 2746 02:47:32,910 --> 02:47:35,310 he was a congresswoman from Georgia and I can't quite 2747 02:47:35,310 --> 02:47:38,400 remember her name. But she was a loudmouth. I don't think she's 2748 02:47:38,400 --> 02:47:41,580 in Congress anymore. I like that. Yeah, it was very funny. 2749 02:47:41,640 --> 02:47:43,920 She had a couple of one liners in there, especially at launch 2750 02:47:43,920 --> 02:47:44,220 Hawk 2751 02:47:44,220 --> 02:47:47,280 when ready to rock and roll. Nice. 2752 02:47:47,550 --> 02:47:49,830 That was there during this. We don't see these as much as we 2753 02:47:49,830 --> 02:47:52,350 used to we get more good clips from them, which is the one 2754 02:47:52,350 --> 02:47:56,730 minute sessions. We have one minute or so that way 2755 02:47:56,789 --> 02:48:03,839 was that Georgia Congress? She sounds familiar. Yeah. You've 2756 02:48:03,839 --> 02:48:06,119 heard her before, but as she out, 2757 02:48:06,660 --> 02:48:09,090 I think so. I haven't seen her for I don't remember seeing her 2758 02:48:09,090 --> 02:48:13,680 recently. This was a 98. So a while ago, that was 2759 02:48:13,680 --> 02:48:17,130 back in the good old Clinton days. Yeah, no wonder no wonder 2760 02:48:17,130 --> 02:48:20,670 it was on Viagra. Hey, Audrey's pulling the train gotta be 2761 02:48:20,670 --> 02:48:21,210 ready. 2762 02:48:23,610 --> 02:48:30,570 So I ran into a well, here's a quickie post. Is it going to 49 2763 02:48:30,570 --> 02:48:32,250 cents? No. 2764 02:48:33,180 --> 02:48:36,240 Next Christmas, it'll cost you a little more money to send that 2765 02:48:36,240 --> 02:48:40,350 letter to Santa Stan prices are going up by another three cents. 2766 02:48:40,590 --> 02:48:44,580 The total 49 cents a pop is new price goes into effect next year 2767 02:48:44,580 --> 02:48:47,610 in January later said it'll help the Postal Service recoup some 2768 02:48:47,610 --> 02:48:49,860 of its nearly $3 million in losses. 2769 02:48:50,550 --> 02:48:54,090 That's $3 million in losses is just like 3 billion or 2770 02:48:54,090 --> 02:48:57,540 something. 3 million somebody can just write a check. 2771 02:48:57,660 --> 02:48:59,490 They really don't know what they're talking about anymore, 2772 02:48:59,490 --> 02:49:04,050 do they? negotiations are ongoing in the third round of 2773 02:49:04,050 --> 02:49:06,360 the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, the T 2774 02:49:06,360 --> 02:49:09,150 tip that continues to desperately trying to get 2775 02:49:09,150 --> 02:49:14,190 something done before the election season in Euro land, 2776 02:49:14,730 --> 02:49:20,670 desperately trying to get that going. I'm not going to happen. 2777 02:49:21,180 --> 02:49:22,260 If you don't think it's gonna happen. 2778 02:49:23,550 --> 02:49:25,860 I don't think you're anything done by the election season. 2779 02:49:25,980 --> 02:49:26,430 Yeah, 2780 02:49:26,490 --> 02:49:31,170 they may not. It's very sad. Because I don't know any other 2781 02:49:31,170 --> 02:49:34,020 way out. We really have to we have to do something we have to 2782 02:49:34,020 --> 02:49:38,100 we have to get away out John. I mean, do we seriously have to 2783 02:49:38,100 --> 02:49:39,030 wait for Hillary? 2784 02:49:40,350 --> 02:49:43,020 Well, you know, I am still dubious about it. Hillary 2785 02:49:43,020 --> 02:49:48,240 getting in. Really? Yes. Really? Do you think she's not going? I 2786 02:49:48,240 --> 02:49:50,370 think it's because they're they're pushing it too soon. 2787 02:49:51,390 --> 02:49:53,520 Well, you think he's timing timing, timing. You know, 2788 02:49:53,520 --> 02:49:55,650 there's so many of these guys that get in real early they got 2789 02:49:55,650 --> 02:50:01,080 that. You know, this thing on the get the emails somebody who 2790 02:50:01,080 --> 02:50:03,990 I can't even remember the name of the programme already, you 2791 02:50:03,990 --> 02:50:10,200 know, make Hillary Oh, yes, she called her candidate we this is 2792 02:50:10,200 --> 02:50:10,770 how bad it's 2793 02:50:10,770 --> 02:50:14,310 become elect Hillary now or get her in Headstart. Hillary, 2794 02:50:14,340 --> 02:50:17,970 Hillary. Do we do Hillary in the backyard? 2795 02:50:18,330 --> 02:50:19,590 Cynthia McKinney. 2796 02:50:21,030 --> 02:50:22,980 Yeah, yeah. Her. What about her 2797 02:50:23,010 --> 02:50:25,380 that? That was who was talking about the Viagra? 2798 02:50:27,000 --> 02:50:29,280 Oh, right. That's exactly. Yeah. 2799 02:50:29,340 --> 02:50:34,410 Yeah. And she, she's, she's been like hiding out in her house. I 2800 02:50:34,410 --> 02:50:39,270 think people want to kill her. Why? Because she is all over the 2801 02:50:39,270 --> 02:50:42,300 scams that are going on. If you if you look at Cynthia McKinney, 2802 02:50:42,300 --> 02:50:50,850 she's very outspoken. Um, let me say she's also a truther. I 2803 02:50:50,850 --> 02:50:54,240 think if I if I'm not mistaken, let's see. 2804 02:50:55,860 --> 02:50:58,740 It wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, that's her. 2805 02:50:59,220 --> 02:51:02,700 Now she's had a she had a lot of a lot of interesting things to 2806 02:51:02,700 --> 02:51:09,120 say she, but she kind of got run out of DC the way I've always 2807 02:51:09,120 --> 02:51:14,700 seen it. criticise Al Gore criticised nine 911 2808 02:51:15,240 --> 02:51:19,230 Yeah, she criticised Clinton. She was not on his side there. 2809 02:51:19,350 --> 02:51:22,920 Katrina. Yeah, she's probably right on the money with just 2810 02:51:22,920 --> 02:51:25,650 about everything. Yeah. 2811 02:51:26,580 --> 02:51:29,160 Viagra thing. She's the only one who brought it up. Yeah. 100 2812 02:51:29,160 --> 02:51:30,330 million dollars. 2813 02:51:30,510 --> 02:51:33,810 Yeah, that's crazy. Okay. 2000 and the Green Party? That's 2814 02:51:33,810 --> 02:51:35,970 right. She was a candidate for the Green Party. I remember 2815 02:51:35,970 --> 02:51:41,220 that. Yeah. She was opposed to the military intervention 2816 02:51:41,220 --> 02:51:44,220 intervention in Libya. Yes. She's She's, she's more good 2817 02:51:44,220 --> 02:51:47,190 than not, I'll tell you that. That's why she's out. That's why 2818 02:51:47,190 --> 02:51:51,810 they got her out. too annoying, too much, too much truth here. 2819 02:51:52,710 --> 02:51:53,520 Stop that. 2820 02:51:56,550 --> 02:52:00,540 Stop, play the GM mess. And I'll be done with my little clips. 2821 02:52:00,720 --> 02:52:04,200 Okay. This is an information clip. City was 2822 02:52:04,200 --> 02:52:08,820 everywhere in the business. Just a few short years ago, General 2823 02:52:08,820 --> 02:52:12,690 Motors had more than 30 different vehicle architectures 2824 02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:18,900 supporting sales of about 9 million vehicles worldwide. And 2825 02:52:18,900 --> 02:52:20,400 then they're ridiculous. 2826 02:52:20,760 --> 02:52:22,710 Hold on a second. This is about General Motors. 2827 02:52:23,520 --> 02:52:27,150 Right? Yeah, this is the guy who's the CEO of General Motors 2828 02:52:27,150 --> 02:52:30,540 before he turns it over to this woman. Right. And he's just 2829 02:52:30,570 --> 02:52:33,630 telling us stuff out of school about how dumb the company is. 2830 02:52:33,870 --> 02:52:37,380 And some of this, he's like, Okay. What did you have? What 2831 02:52:37,380 --> 02:52:38,460 have you done for the company? Am 2832 02:52:38,460 --> 02:52:42,450 I mistaken? Or did I not see that they? I'm seeing all these 2833 02:52:42,450 --> 02:52:46,170 couple metres AIG? Yeah, and I saw an AIG commercial just 2834 02:52:46,170 --> 02:52:50,670 before the holidays. And like we repaid the American bailout 2835 02:52:50,670 --> 02:52:53,190 money with profit. And of course, the same was said for 2836 02:52:53,190 --> 02:52:56,760 GM. Although they didn't they just turn around and take a loan 2837 02:52:56,760 --> 02:52:58,350 from somebody else that was cheaper. 2838 02:52:59,430 --> 02:53:03,030 I don't know that it did did but it definitely taking out loans 2839 02:53:03,030 --> 02:53:05,550 commonly. So it's wouldn't be a surprise, the 2840 02:53:05,550 --> 02:53:10,080 company had almost 70 different advertising agencies around the 2841 02:53:10,080 --> 02:53:12,990 world, just to support the Chevrolet brand. 2842 02:53:13,200 --> 02:53:13,950 Wow. 2843 02:53:15,270 --> 02:53:20,250 It's green. But it also shows how we lost focus, and we lost 2844 02:53:20,340 --> 02:53:25,530 our advantage, economies of scale. And another move, GM 2845 02:53:25,530 --> 02:53:28,890 leaders outsourced nearly all of the company's information 2846 02:53:28,890 --> 02:53:35,310 technology, we effectively dismissed. Data Capture and 2847 02:53:35,310 --> 02:53:39,630 proprietary intellect, analytics, as a core competency. 2848 02:53:40,110 --> 02:53:44,940 Just as the internet was about to transform all modern business 2849 02:53:44,940 --> 02:53:49,680 models, timing is everything. We also ended up with 23 leased or 2850 02:53:49,680 --> 02:53:53,610 partially owned data centres, which is not only costly, but 2851 02:53:53,610 --> 02:54:00,990 risky. We are now in sourcing it. Growing it as a core 2852 02:54:00,990 --> 02:54:06,360 competency, those 23 data centres will be reduced to two, 2853 02:54:07,020 --> 02:54:10,320 which will increase our performance, our reliability and 2854 02:54:10,320 --> 02:54:11,130 our cost. 2855 02:54:11,160 --> 02:54:14,100 What were they doing with 23 data centres? 2856 02:54:14,520 --> 02:54:17,760 I don't know, the company has seemed out of control. What? 2857 02:54:19,020 --> 02:54:21,840 What are you doing with your dummy? Yeah, I understand what 2858 02:54:21,840 --> 02:54:24,810 some cloud computing but 23 I mean, how big are these data 2859 02:54:24,810 --> 02:54:25,410 centres? 2860 02:54:26,160 --> 02:54:28,560 Well, they got rid of them. So there was not been important to 2861 02:54:28,560 --> 02:54:32,550 know that much. Can you go to a I want you to comment on this. 2862 02:54:32,880 --> 02:54:37,590 Go to the link I sent you in your email. The whitehouse.gov 2863 02:54:37,950 --> 02:54:41,070 page is a deep page that I had to do it this way. And tell me 2864 02:54:41,070 --> 02:54:42,810 what you think of this photo of Obama. 2865 02:54:43,710 --> 02:54:49,680 Okay, is this from the K 2013 and review that's why it's 2866 02:54:49,860 --> 02:54:53,760 loading up here. White House is not a very fast site to load for 2867 02:54:53,760 --> 02:54:55,920 some reason. In 2000 2868 02:54:56,760 --> 02:54:58,290 Here's a picture of Obama right? 2869 02:54:59,370 --> 02:55:05,130 It hasn't load Yeah, I'm seeing in 2013, our economy grew, our 2870 02:55:05,130 --> 02:55:09,120 deficit shrunk or above that. Above that's I have an empty 2871 02:55:09,120 --> 02:55:13,740 page and it's loading slowly. I have now the White House banner, 2872 02:55:13,740 --> 02:55:16,320 I'm telling you this White House site doesn't load very well for 2873 02:55:16,320 --> 02:55:16,680 me. 2874 02:55:18,270 --> 02:55:25,200 So I wonder why that is? Flash. Flash, 2875 02:55:25,590 --> 02:55:29,700 I still don't have it. But let me let me finish this GM clip. 2876 02:55:29,700 --> 02:55:30,570 while that's loading. 2877 02:55:30,870 --> 02:55:31,380 Okay. 2878 02:55:32,580 --> 02:55:35,490 At one point in time, we could barely close our own books in a 2879 02:55:35,490 --> 02:55:40,200 timely matter. Because various units in the company were on 2880 02:55:40,200 --> 02:55:42,330 different general Ledger's and for those of you that are 2881 02:55:42,330 --> 02:55:48,570 financially trained, that's finance 101. The list goes on. 2882 02:55:49,380 --> 02:55:54,750 We all know what happened next. The company that top the fortune 2883 02:55:54,750 --> 02:56:01,290 500 when it first was listed in 1955, and stayed there for 35 2884 02:56:01,290 --> 02:56:07,170 years, fell into disgrace. Something even more sobering. GM 2885 02:56:07,170 --> 02:56:11,070 had lost sight of its customers and what they truly valued, 2886 02:56:12,540 --> 02:56:18,720 quality, compelling design and reliability. In my heart of 2887 02:56:18,720 --> 02:56:22,140 hearts, I knew Jim was fixable if the new leadership team 2888 02:56:22,260 --> 02:56:27,210 played team ball and systematically addressed the 2889 02:56:27,210 --> 02:56:31,800 company's shortcomings. So I made a promise to myself into 2890 02:56:31,800 --> 02:56:36,690 the board to deliver on three important initiatives in my 2891 02:56:36,690 --> 02:56:40,530 tenure. The first was the restoration of GMs. Good name. 2892 02:56:40,980 --> 02:56:45,750 Second, the transformation of the company's basic operations. 2893 02:56:46,170 --> 02:56:50,910 My third goal was to put quality and the customer back at the 2894 02:56:50,910 --> 02:56:52,860 centre of every decision we made Yeah, 2895 02:56:52,860 --> 02:56:55,080 okay, can kill this thing. I don't know why that was left on 2896 02:56:55,080 --> 02:56:56,310 there. But 2897 02:56:57,000 --> 02:57:00,900 I can't load this website. John. It's now I've got spinning beach 2898 02:57:00,900 --> 02:57:01,710 ball. 2899 02:57:02,340 --> 02:57:05,550 Oh, that's a shame because there's this picture of Obama on 2900 02:57:05,550 --> 02:57:09,840 the 2020 13 year and review that I don't know that it just, it's 2901 02:57:09,840 --> 02:57:13,440 horrible. It's the most ominous creepy picture ever. And then of 2902 02:57:13,440 --> 02:57:16,020 course, the rest of the site's got all kinds of cool stuff. I 2903 02:57:16,020 --> 02:57:17,460 will talk about on the next show. 2904 02:57:17,940 --> 02:57:24,720 I do this the whole browser is frozen now this is almost what 2905 02:57:24,990 --> 02:57:30,360 it looks like this page is like 12 months of flash. Do you have 2906 02:57:30,360 --> 02:57:36,330 is like a whole calendar seven. Okay. It's like a million embeds 2907 02:57:36,330 --> 02:57:38,250 on this page. What are these people thinking? 2908 02:57:38,880 --> 02:57:42,270 They're there yet there says is the Zakho the other guy. 2909 02:57:42,300 --> 02:57:45,870 I'm telling you it's nothing but YouTube in a skip 2910 02:57:45,870 --> 02:57:46,350 skip 2911 02:57:46,950 --> 02:57:48,270 logic all kinds of 2912 02:57:48,780 --> 02:57:51,480 speaking in binary. That's the problem. Oh, 2913 02:57:52,200 --> 02:57:54,840 my browsers completely frozen and my whole computer is now 2914 02:57:54,840 --> 02:58:00,840 frozen. Listen, sorry. That's not funny. I can't do it. 2915 02:58:02,220 --> 02:58:04,290 Nothing will move. Wow. 2916 02:58:05,340 --> 02:58:06,360 Well, I think we're done. 2917 02:58:06,390 --> 02:58:08,130 Yeah. Well, I can't play anything. 2918 02:58:09,150 --> 02:58:12,930 Well, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to crash. Here it is. Lighthouse 2919 02:58:13,170 --> 02:58:17,880 is finally loaded. The picture of him profile pinching his 2920 02:58:17,880 --> 02:58:20,700 chin. Yeah, urine review. 2921 02:58:20,730 --> 02:58:22,200 Is that a creepy picture? 2922 02:58:22,230 --> 02:58:23,520 It's propagandistic. 2923 02:58:24,690 --> 02:58:29,160 Yeah, say Hitler. And it was started with Nazis and Hitler. 2924 02:58:29,280 --> 02:58:29,850 Wow. 2925 02:58:31,740 --> 02:58:36,630 I don't know about that. But it definitely does not exude 2926 02:58:36,630 --> 02:58:40,500 confidence. It's kind of a you know, it's like, oh, I'm 2927 02:58:40,770 --> 02:58:43,020 thinking about all the American people. 2928 02:58:43,410 --> 02:58:46,080 If you want to see if you want to scroll down, get down to the 2929 02:58:46,080 --> 02:58:50,130 100th anniversary of Rosa Parks birth and you see Obama sitting 2930 02:58:50,130 --> 02:58:53,190 in the bus. No, really? 2931 02:58:56,760 --> 02:59:00,450 That's pretty funny. Oh, there's all kinds of crazy. 2932 02:59:01,080 --> 02:59:03,150 It's just a crazy crazy site. Yeah. 2933 02:59:03,300 --> 02:59:07,140 I have like this. There's him on I'm standing on a GoDaddy car. 2934 02:59:09,570 --> 02:59:10,800 was in the White 2935 02:59:10,800 --> 02:59:15,840 House Correspondents Association Dinner. Well, he is. This is a 2936 02:59:15,840 --> 02:59:17,550 megalomaniac site, man. 2937 02:59:18,480 --> 02:59:21,750 Bob's a GoDaddy car when you see him in the bus. This whole thing 2938 02:59:21,750 --> 02:59:23,430 is so sick. No agenda art. 2939 02:59:24,780 --> 02:59:28,860 It does with his hair with the bangs and everything. Wow. Wow. 2940 02:59:29,160 --> 02:59:32,730 That's a little. Okay. Officially creepy. Now, I'll 2941 02:59:32,730 --> 02:59:35,700 wind it up then with Eric prince, who has written a book 2942 02:59:35,910 --> 02:59:39,240 to tell you that Blackwater was not bad. Blackwater was just 2943 02:59:39,240 --> 02:59:42,900 doing what the American armed forces had contracted to do, 2944 02:59:42,900 --> 02:59:45,840 literally. And if you really look at what's going on 2945 02:59:45,840 --> 02:59:49,140 Washington DC is worse than anything he's ever seen in all 2946 02:59:49,140 --> 02:59:51,690 of his years at Blackwater killed civilians. 2947 02:59:52,650 --> 02:59:57,780 Look, if 41 of our men were killed doing the missions, and 2948 02:59:57,780 --> 03:00:00,330 we did more than 100,000 protected missions between Iraq 2949 03:00:00,330 --> 03:00:03,150 and Afghanistan, no one under our care was killed or injured. 2950 03:00:03,180 --> 03:00:07,320 Fortunately, unfortunately, dangerous things happen in war 2951 03:00:07,320 --> 03:00:10,890 zones. I mean, we're much maligned for Nyssa square. That 2952 03:00:10,890 --> 03:00:15,930 event started with a car bomb. And a lot of incoming rounds 2953 03:00:15,930 --> 03:00:18,900 were received as well. I just want to draw a parallel even to 2954 03:00:18,900 --> 03:00:22,080 October three right here in Washington DC. There was a 34 2955 03:00:22,080 --> 03:00:24,330 year old woman driving her car got into a bit of a traffic 2956 03:00:24,330 --> 03:00:26,970 altercation outside of a federal building. The Secret Service 2957 03:00:26,970 --> 03:00:29,700 opened fire on her she moved to another location. Again, they 2958 03:00:29,700 --> 03:00:32,310 fired on her as a third location. She was finally gunned 2959 03:00:32,310 --> 03:00:35,310 down and killed. When they went to her car. There was no 2960 03:00:35,310 --> 03:00:39,180 weapons, no explosive material, nothing, just a fortunately, 2961 03:00:39,360 --> 03:00:41,640 uninjured baby sleeping in the backseat. Although the woman was 2962 03:00:41,640 --> 03:00:45,990 killed, dangerous things happen. And that was in Washington DC. 2963 03:00:45,990 --> 03:00:48,540 There was no shots fired. There was no there was no car bombing. 2964 03:00:48,540 --> 03:00:51,900 There was no Warzone that day. And yet federal police officers 2965 03:00:51,900 --> 03:00:54,060 opened fired and killed an unarmed innocent woman. 2966 03:00:54,090 --> 03:00:57,960 Yeah, and we loved it. It was great. 2967 03:01:00,450 --> 03:01:02,460 The media loved it. Media loved 2968 03:01:02,460 --> 03:01:06,780 it. Fantastic rule crap. She's nuts. No follow up. No nothing. 2969 03:01:06,780 --> 03:01:10,590 And there's Eric Prince telling you right there that they fired 2970 03:01:10,590 --> 03:01:14,310 on an unarmed woman after a traffic altercation. Yeah. 2971 03:01:16,020 --> 03:01:21,630 For him advance himself at least he's you know, not trying to be 2972 03:01:21,630 --> 03:01:21,990 sad. 2973 03:01:22,170 --> 03:01:28,050 I gotta read his book. He's Yeah. He's very specific about 2974 03:01:28,050 --> 03:01:33,030 being pissed off about the bad rap. He and Blackwater got now 2975 03:01:33,030 --> 03:01:35,040 owned by Monsanto Corporation. 2976 03:01:37,260 --> 03:01:38,490 Is that right? Yeah. 2977 03:01:38,760 --> 03:01:43,710 Z was purchased by Monsanto. We got to keep those farmers in 2978 03:01:43,710 --> 03:01:49,500 line John. replanting your seeds without paying for sending the 2979 03:01:49,500 --> 03:01:56,010 helicopters? Yes, I'm filled with all kinds of groovy trivia 2980 03:01:56,010 --> 03:02:03,000 like this last show of 2013. We'll be on Sunday Sunday. 2981 03:02:03,720 --> 03:02:06,210 Looking forward to that. So we'll have a little bit of time 2982 03:02:06,210 --> 03:02:09,240 to work on some stuff during the week because there's always news 2983 03:02:09,870 --> 03:02:14,790 even though everyone else is on PR hiatus. Word work here in 2984 03:02:14,790 --> 03:02:18,270 FEMA Region six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, 2985 03:02:18,779 --> 03:02:23,609 on Santo Bice Blackwater. I'm up in the pacific northwest valley, 2986 03:02:23,609 --> 03:02:25,859 which is really not a valley what at all, it's kind of a 2987 03:02:25,859 --> 03:02:27,959 hill. I'm John C. Dvorak 2988 03:02:27,990 --> 03:02:33,240 and we'll talk to you again on Sunday right here. On no agenda. 2989 03:02:35,910 --> 03:02:37,680 The best podcast 2990 03:02:41,730 --> 03:02:45,420 vorak.org/n A