Yeah, well hit hit a jacket jacket. juga Adam curry, John C.
Dvorak. November 28 2013 Time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination, Episode Five suasana. This is no agenda. And
today I am thankful for your courage from the Travis high
tide out in Austin, Texas in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry.
And oops. I'm northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Hill.
What did you lose your script?
Oh, I was just looking at the Twitter because I tweeted right
after you tweeted that we're on the air. Yeah. Then I noticed
that there's a post by me that I'd ever posted. Really? Yeah,
it's it's funny. You mentioned this because yesterday, and that
Miss Mickey is gone. So I'm all alone here. And I'm you know,
I'm just what I do is, I basically bring everything into
the studio. I don't need anything else. I don't need a
house. They got the I got the arrow bed. I mean, I'm living in
the studio. And you know, I check Facebook to see if she's
posted any pictures from from the gig that she's doing in Los
Angeles. And all of a sudden I get a bloop. I get an instant
message from this girl. Remember the girl that was at the
reunion? I told you the reunion the radio reunion in Amsterdam?
No. Yeah. She didn't tell me any radio reunion about the girl.
Yes, we did.
I told you I had a reunion. And one of the girls who was there
was our assistant back in the 80s. But she's now this huge
television personality.
How big is she?
Right? Well, she's very famous. Let's put it that Oh, I
misunderstood.
And because of course, I've been working out doing this this spin
class for a couple months. Oh, I
look at changing the story. No, no,
no, no, no, no, this this was this was the entire reason to
say yes. Because I knew all these people would need to go to
the reunion. Okay, because I knew all these people would be
you know, overweight and wrinkled. Like, this is great.
I'm gonna walk and go, Hey,
you're gonna be looking good. That's right. Let's
look at my girlish figure. So she she was there. And she
she's, she's She's seriously a huge celebrity now. Like,
really? I told you this like Oprah level almost. Okay. And
for Holland, which doesn't say not much. Deal. So no, it was
great. Catching up with the she literally could not keep her
hands off of me. Understandable.
So Mickey, I guess is flying to LA. So she can't hear any of
this.
Mickey's the one that said, it's okay. As long as you don't put
more than the tip in it's okay.
Welcome to the show, ladies and gentlemen. Not heard no agenda.
You're confused. But the point is, so I get this instant
message from her saying something which is actually
relevant to the conversation we had at this reunion. And I'm
like, yeah, and then. And all of a sudden, she's like, trying to
cybersex me. Like, Oh, hold on a second. Cypher seriously, you
know, like, hey, oh, by the way. I'm not kidding. And I'm like,
wow, this is weird. And so I'm like, real cagey. I'm like,
what, what are you talking about? Cage? And she's like, You
know what? I'm good at, you know what I'm good at? I'm like, What
do you mean, why don't you tell me what you're good at? And it
was like some back and forth and like, Okay, this is weird. So I
email her.
This is I am so what are you doing this?
It? I think it pops up as a message. I'm sorry. Yeah, I
think it's like a
face count of first segues. Are these pop up message? No.
And I'm like, I'm like, this isn't? Whatever you're planning.
I'm certainly not going to do it on Facebook. Yeah, so email, I
say is this you?
Maybe she's got one of those shows to just don't humiliate
people. Well,
you know, I think something like that was going on because I
email she says, I don't even have a Facebook account. I'm
like, Well, you may want to check this because it sure looks
like your Facebook account. And your cyber sexing
me so Oh, somebody was trying to set you up? Yes, exactly.
And I was not having it, which I'm very happy about because you
know how easy it is to be like, yeah, baby, what are you
wearing? I mean, you know, lift and carry what do you know, you
know how easy it would be to trick me really into doing that.
I'd be like, Yeah, cool. dodged the bullet, and I'm thankful for
it. There you go. A long way to go. But hey, everybody. It is of
course Thanksgiving Day. Also happy Hanukkah, which I think
happens once every 10,000 years that Hanukkah falls on
Thanksgiving. So I'm not quite sure how that works and what
it means but it means something. I had a lot of people email me
over and I want to mention this before I forget about What's
your turkey recipe? Could you how you're gonna have a special
Turkey recipe that I sent one out really? Yeah, like more than
five
interesting and these were no agenda listeners or yeah yeah,
yeah fans in general
Well no, no agenda listeners or you know a lot of my fans are no
agenda listeners and they're the ones who seem to be focusing on
the cooking right well there's so many I just want to say
there's so many what I recommend to people is go on Google and
type in turkey roast turkey because as you know, I mean you
could there's other ways of cooking it but roast turkey and
then take the read five recipes and then just synthesise one
essentially it's you just have the season this bird make sure
you have to clean out as is guts so that was some lemon juice or
something and then either put stuffing in are not a lot of
people. Oh, you don't put the stuffing and you're gonna get
you're gonna die.
Hey, that sounds like my guy who's always weird at me.
Oh, don't put the stuffing in the bird. You'll die. Just like
bull crap. Yeah. Yeah, if you don't know what you're doing,
you might but you probably just started you just get sick of
salmonella. anyway and then just do it. It's just generally 20
minutes
it's not that hard. It's it's not that hard. And by the way,
seasoning I just say dead easy. I just say salt. You know just
go with salt
and salt to the skin and it works. And you got it. I'm gonna
do something interesting though. And I will write it up if it's
any good Jaycees. fiance is off of all wheat grain products.
This is good actually. Probably.
And I was gonna put a stuffing in it she was gonna do that I
can't eat wheat. I can't have gluten and gluten and so I said
well, you're just not going to be a stem. I gotta give you any
of it you know I said now well you know maybe I should be
creative you're I'm going to make a a diced apple dressing.
With dried cranberries dates.
Seasonal so much like Kay throw some quinoa and kale in there.
No, no, that's a grain Keane was Oh right. Oh, that's not this
output and kale in the dressing is
verboten.
So it's going to be a it's going to be an apple dressing and I'm
going to see how it comes out. It should be kind of like a like
a like applesauce a turkey flavoured applesauce that hot
it'd be out if it's any good I'll write it up if it sucks you
know just
write it up if it sucks we'll write it up to know but if you
put some kale in there you could call it a super stuffing
kale Oh maybe I should I do have so I did buy some black kale
some dinos kale to play with and I realised that was a real scam
is because everyone's now there's you know I get a lot of
emails. Look at this another public relations thing for kale.
Yeah, it's a buck 69 For a small bunch of kale, which amounts to
it seems to me about a quarter pound I'm gonna weigh it later.
Cabbage which is the same brassica family is about 69
cents a pound. So this is a this is a mine it's a scam. It's a
money grab. It's a total scam. One of our rip off
one of our producers sent a a camera shot of the newspaper in
Kampala Uganda. And I'm not sure which newspaper it is but it's
under health and beauty is this half page article with with a
little basket of kale on the side and and two people like
sitting in a table and it's and says you can make juice out of
kale and in the end the dude has a green glass of goop and the
girl has a like a red glass of goop. I guess she doesn't have
the kale with the headline make kale your new friend with
benefits
I somebody sent me this to friend with benefits.
The kale stuff. Yeah. Okay, so we probably got the same name. I
put it in the show notes just because it's so unbelievable.
You have to see it.
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Alright, super. Before we get into the
meat of the show, should we at least talk about the
Thanksgiving scam the fact that this
well yes no, this is a tradition here on the no agenda show every
year on this fake holiday. A John explains exactly why it's
fake. How it's fake what it's about and this this year. I'm
going to add a little something but first, ladies and gentlemen,
your annual no agenda tradition. John explains why Thanksgiving
he's Bogota live.
Okay, first of all, they originally there was a couple of
events that took place with the Pilgrims in the Indians that
were never called Thanksgiving and the only happened they were
only documented twice and they weren't even consecutive times.
And I think they were in July or something like that. But somehow
this woman And then then they were going to try to make this
kind of a regular holiday until Jefferson came around. Thomas
Jefferson said this, this is stupid. We're not going to do a
holiday. And so they bailed out on it. And there hasn't been
there was never another Thanksgiving until this woman
Sarah Hale came around in 1863. And she believed that there
should be some sort of she was like a religious person and an
activist. She was an activist, community organiser, writer. And
she just had some magazine so she revitalised the the whole
idea and created she that's when it was created. Until then, all
the Thanksgivings were that there were a few that was maybe
five or six from about 1770 to the 1800s. And they were
generally commemorative events to honour the dead from various
wars. And this seemed like a good time to do it again after
the Civil War. And so they they put Thanksgiving back into play.
So
it is indeed recognised as a day another yet another day to think
about our warriors
is yes, in fact, in fact, if you look at you know, they say,
well, it's only in the United States. That's not true. Canada
has a Thanksgiving. And if you look up the wiki entry on
Thanksgiving in Canada, you will find that it was also used as a
way to honour the dead. Ah, it had nothing to do with pilgrims
or having fun with the Indians or any of that stuff
at all. This is such a disappointment. Because that's
fun with Indians.
We have there was some some there's a couple of funny
stories about how they when they did have their, their harvest
festival with the Indians one year, then within the next five
years, their dad killed all those same Indians. Just a
little aside. Anyway, one documented Thanksgiving was for
a one shot celebration that was held in 1676. It was a generic
term for an ad libbed holiday. There was also during the
Roosevelt administration, they tried to move the Thursday up a
week because Thanksgiving by then by the 30s, had become
exactly what it is today commercial date, that marks
right marks the beginning of the Christmas shopping holiday. And
Roosevelt tried to move it up a week, because it was a
depression.
What I understand is that 16 states at the time refused to
move it. So we actually had two Thanksgivings in the United
States.
Well, it'd be good got so much so many people objected to it,
because so many people have been bought into the bowl crap about
Thanksgiving. Yeah, that these idiots and some of these states
says, Oh, it's a sin. You know, we're honouring the Pilgrims in
the Indians. And, seriously, and so they, so they wouldn't change
it because it would be changing God's will or something. It was
unbelievable. And so And Roosevelt got a lot of pressure.
So he moved it back. And now we just start shopping earlier. Now
I think the real mark of a beginning of the Christmas
holiday season is when all the decorations go up.
Oh, which has already happened.
I think Thanksgiving just as it makes it official, but does
Christmas shopping has begun to have already begun. It began
early in November, I have a bogus holiday. And by the way,
it was one person said during the late 1800s That it was
needed, because we needed more holidays we didn't have at the
time. We didn't have Armistice Day and all these things that
happened after World War One and after World War Two. So we were
actually short holidays, we didn't have enough holidays. So
they figured, okay, we'll put this in play and we're going to
take a day off. And it was actually two days it became two
days off. And it's the only holiday interestingly enough
besides Christmas, that has a New Year's obviously, that all
the other holidays have been standardised to happen on a
Monday or Friday based on a law that was passed in 1971. What
law was that? It was the standardisation of of
Oh really, there's a law when holidays can be celebrated in
1971. So it was the Nixon administration. They were sick
and they were sick of the work. The corporate America was sick
of these guys. You know, all of a sudden you have a Tuesday
would be a holiday or Thursday would be a holiday then people
will take long weekends. He was killing once we
couldn't display the slaves weren't doing their job. They
were taking extra days.
We're just taking too much time off. And so we had to
we can't have that in the call for option to it. Yes,
I did. That's why all the holidays are Mondays and
Fridays.
I did not clip this but I just I'm just seeing now that the
President released his podcast early and I just glanced at the
transcript I think we should play the first 30 seconds of his
Thanksgiving address to see if he has it all correct. Well,
maybe for
dinner is he going to chuck let the turkey go
please don't take me to there. That's that's like the stupidest
thing and it's so dumb. Let's Heelas tip this up, pile
everybody. Hi everybody, on behalf of all the Obamas on
behalf of all the Obamas me the other Obama Sodre bow, newest
member of our family, sonny, I want to wish you a happy and
healthy Thanksgiving. Okay. We'll be spending today just
like many of you down with family and friends to eat some
good food. Thanks if you have a chef, all right stories, modulo
football, and most importantly, count our blessings. And as
Americans, we have so much to be thankful for your combs. We give
thanks for the men and women who set sail for this land nearly
four centuries ago, risking everything for the chance that a
better life. And the people who are already here, our Native
American brothers and sisters for their generosity during that
first Thanksgiving. I see he's propagating the same bullcrap.
Yeah, it's total bullcrap that their generosity. Hey, thanks,
Redskins. Oops. Man. Oh, man. Oh, man. All right. Well, this
it is of course, still a commercial holiday. So you might
as well keep the dream alive. I mean, why not? It's no different
than Santa Claus is fine by me.
It was a little different than Santa Claus.
Just that they're teaching it is kind of.
So today, let me read this last paragraph. This is was a blog
entry. You read the various links as late as the holiday
never existed in this form until Lincoln that said there were a
few federal proclamations declaring thanksgiving for
celebratory purposes. And that was the first was in 17 sevens,
the seven then randomly in 1795 7098 1799 and 1815. Most of
these were war related.
I'm looking at the official proclamation which is real which
goes into the Federal Register, which is the real deal
proclaimed by our president. Paragraph two, our annual
celebration has roots in centuries old colonial customs.
When we gather around the table, we follow the example of the
pilgrims and Wampanoag dogs, who shared the fruits of a
successful harvest nearly 400 years ago, when we offer our
thanks we mirror those who set aside a day of prayer. And when
we join with friends and neighbours to alleviate
suffering and make our communities whole, we honour the
spirit of President Abraham Lincoln, who called on his
fellow citizens to quote fervently implore the
interposition of the almighty hand to heal the wounds of the
nation, and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with
the divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony,
tranquillity and union. Now, get me some turkey you Indian shit.
No, I didn't say that. I'm sorry.
So I've got a turkey here. That is a heritage bird that weighs
seven pounds, which
is light. That seems light. Yeah, it's
gonna be great. When you get a good heritage Turkey The weird
thing is I can see why these birds were popular, probably
from about 18 cents not no when they first became part of the
deal, but 1880 I guess, are true about 1950 Because the one of
these old heritage birds actually tastes more like
pheasant than Turkey doesn't have that stench. That real
cheap Turkey stench you get from a butter now you know what I'm
talking about? I know
exactly when you walk when you walk into the house you like
you're just gagging
Yeah, it's a stench and this is the kind of this is the same
with farmed salmon. It's has a stinky you can in a bunch of
white milk comes out.
Oh, when you go when you're cooking that white goo Ah, stop.
You cannot eat salmon anymore. You can't there's and there is
almost no fresh salmon to be found in get
up in Washington state from the Indians. Well, sure.
Sure. But you know what I'm saying is salmon has just
basically been ruined by the farming.
Yeah, no, it's it's stinks. They white it's gotten white milk and
it has it has a flavour that is enough to make me sick.
I'm getting sick. By the way. I have I have a home for
Thanksgiving today.
I have a going.
I'm going to my friends. John Christian, Fritz, and they have
promised me a Thanksgiving with cowboys and trainees.
Cowboys in trend is just That's Texas.
In fact, the trainee is a very famous professor here at UT.
A trainee at school.
Yes. No, completely. Yes. Yes, she is. And what
she is, so she is a Is she a transsexual or a transvestite
transsexual? I believe okay.
I don't know if she will find out. I mean, she's like a
molecular biologist. So that's kind of interesting. And then
one of the guys dad is Cowboy. He's like a total Fox news
junkie. So it's gonna be funny. Yeah, it's
gonna be fun for that'd be great. Fox News is run by the
Democrats.
Yeah. Oh yeah, no. Oh god. I don't know if I have the energy
after the show to get into it
was tonight. Yeah, you want to sit back and relax and watch
watch this guide Yak. We also have listeners that rush
limbaugh to
Oh, yes. Yeah. Well, it'll it'll be interesting. By the
way Rush Limbaugh on a couple days ago had a big thing on
Thanksgiving. Well, he has a book out he's promoting. Yeah,
he's got a book out he's promoting this got a little bit
to do it. But his Thanksgiving story. I said all the truth
about Thanksgiving, he says, So I'm reading this thing. Oh,
well, I guess Russia has finally read some of my material or or
the other people that debunk Thanksgiving. No, no, Russia
says the whole thing is misunderstood. When the pilgrims
and the Indians got together. It turned out there were the
pilgrims are trying to make a kind of a commune which doesn't
work. And the whole thing when they finally figured out free
enterprise, and they started just doing their own thing in a
free enterprise free market way. That's what the celebration was
all about. It was the celebration of the free market
emergence. Wow. It's like what are you insane? Yeah,
of course he is. It's not healthy to listen to people like
this too much. You can sample and you should be sampling. But
my goodness, when people get sucked into listening to crap
like that, and I know. So of course I it's very hard not to
gloat and it's it the timing could not be really could not be
better. As on Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Looking for the
jingle here on Sunday, we have another one of our annual or of
our monthly very famous,
it's another instalment of with the
now I had said that it looked like it was all dead. That you
know they're on to me. They're they're not talking to me like
they used to. But I had quite a Twitter, and even Facebook
Exchange with two of the main players, including the
professor. When I somewhat glowingly that posted the link
to the fact that the FDA is shutting down 23 and me. And
first of all, like props to the no agenda show for calling this
stuff out for the parlour trick that it is, but I was
flabbergasted my new word of the week when the professor and his
wife, Marianne, posted, saying, Oh, my God, Adam, are you
actually on the government side on this one? I was like, wow,
that's your response. That's your response. Did you read what
the government said? Did you read that? They're basically
calling 23 me out as regulation, dodging shocks, there's
charlatans, charlatans, and so on. But it's funny because I
stayed on it. I was I'm like, Okay. And I really went very
deep on what is this genetic testing? And what and what are
they really doing? And where is it coming from? And I'd like to,
I'd like to share a little bit of my research because when you
look into it, it there's a lot more than than I expected to
find. And it's even worse than it appeared. The first glance
here, by the way, is the core of the issue
website, of course, is that, gee, it's great to be able to
get information about my own health for a pretty reasonable
price point, without having to go to a doctor pay a tonne of
money, and have a bunch of regulators standing in the way.
That is, of course, the argument that 23 and 23 and me other
companies like to make, and it's a powerful one. The problem is
that our understanding of genetics, especially in the
public, is very low, and that these tests come not only with
limited accuracy, but also without the benefit of genetic
counselling. So I imagine that that you send your DNA away, you
receive news back from 23andme. This is the kind of information
that they do provide that your negative for the BRCA one and
BRCA two those mutations that lead somebody be more
susceptible to getting certain forms of breast cancer? Well,
when armed with that information, the individual
might decide to avoid getting mammograms, well, that decision
could be fatal. So not having those particular mutations that
braca one and braca two in this case, lowers your genetic risk
from about 12.5% to 12.4% of getting breast cancer and so
it's clearly a mistake to avoid mammograms but the information
you receive back from a company like 23andme doesn't tell you
any of this. So the here's the things And again, this is this
was very surprising to me that a professor who know who knows
better, but this was pretty much what all the robots were saying.
And I
interrupt you Sure. Don't do bots have as part of their
litany that government regulation is good and we
wouldn't have had this depression if there was more
government regulation and government regulation is good.
It's great. It's helpful it's useful we need more of it not
less of it.
This is exactly what was so weird is that they were calling
me out for being on the government side like you know,
it's crazy that you would be on the government on the government
side with this. But here but here is the the also completely
false. So here's, here's the posting download your 23andme
data ASAP if you haven't, the FDA doesn't trust you with your
own genome, which is not at all what the by the way, that's a
kind of a repost from Discover Magazine, this is this is their,
this is the take on it. That 23andme And this is literally
that's kind of a douchey way of putting it Don't you think it
gets worse?
Worse than this by saying 23andme or democratising health
care? I'm like what? They're democratising healthcare. So the
thinking is that because you can download, you can get your
genome and you can download it and analyse it. Or in this case,
it's analysed for you that that somehow is a democratisation of
healthcare thing. It's improper use of the word democracy. But
when you when you look into what this analysis is, now that the
human genome was decoded in 2003, I think, and really what
has come out of it, from all sides, there's been no real
players, it's been really sad this, nothing has really
emerged. But what we do have is a big database called the the SN
pedia, sn P E, D I A. and And interestingly enough, it's an
open source database of these markers, that helps you
understand what certain genes in your genome mean. And when you
look through it, yeah, it's it's a pretty small set. There's some
really funny ones in there, like Rs 9332964, which is the s&p for
micro penis, which I love I gladly posted. And I said, Hey,
Professor Russ, do you have this gene? Code, you could only say
Well played. But there's actually a desktop application
called Promethease. And you can download that, and it takes
about four hours on a modern powered computer. And it will do
exactly what 23andme is doing is it'll, it'll take your, your
genome and any of these SNPs it can identify it will and it'll
show these to you. And you can take it for what it is. You
know, it's like, you know, so I guess if you have the RS 9332964
gene, and you're gonna have kids, while your kid might have
a micro penis, I guess that's the conclusion. But really these
risks for numbers is the is the problem with communication of
issues in general that the public has now bought into and
this we've been tracking this and identifying the 90% are in
90%. Of of, of scientists agree 9797 9899. By the way, this is
proven to work. We've known this since the 50s. When advertising
said nine out of 10 dentists agree that is better than 10 out
of 10 dentists, this is advertising, this is marketing,
it's well known, well researched, well study that if
you give that 10% That one dentist Well, he's obviously a
shit. Clearly this is good, because you know, it's science
because there's one guy who's kind of on the fence are against
it. And this works and this is why it's below is
no there's a crackpot out there. Yeah. So the danger
of course, is and, and this is all about the marketing. If
you're looking at 23 and me's website, they are literally
talking about recommendations of things you should talk to your
doctor about regarding certain brand name pharmaceuticals, not
even the the generics or other or other other brands or even
the the medical, the medical name, the clinical name, the
pharmaceutical name, only the brand names, and people do not
understand how to assess risk. So it's, it's the same with
terrorism. Now, people think that we have to go through all
these hoops at the airport because the risk of of a
terrorist attack is so high when of course, your risk of actually
dying in a terrorist attack is is extremely minut.
But the way that she's more likely to get struck by
lightning.
Now, when I look distinctly Yeah, twice. So when I look at
the at what 23 and me is a is offering. And they don't even
they don't do their own tests, they handed out to CLI a approve
laboratory. And it's the same as the $5,000, the $4,000 test. So
I don't think that they're even doing that they're outsourcing
it. And obviously, they're using their 100 million dollars in
venture capital to, I guess this subsidise that. But they're
making all these recommendations. And that, of
course, is the problem. And that is also the danger. And I've
spoken to many doctors who say, Oh, I can all these people with
this 23andme bullcrap showing up like, and he said that people
are going to get sick, just from thinking about the stuff that
they might have, that they have a 56% or 53% chance of, of
getting. So it's, it's it is indeed a poorly marketed, but of
course,
if you really want to poorly marketed or all
rights illegally marketed? Yeah, the main thing is, if you want
to be the player, then be the player. You know, you got your
Google money you got you got your ID, because Google is also
an investor, as is Sergey Brin personally, you could do it
right, do it like all the other guys,
of course, this runs it x, y, but do it right,
go, go pay off everybody the way you're supposed to do the big
test pay for it really go in because otherwise someone else
is going to come and eat your lunch, which is happening now.
And someone forwarded the email to me from and what GCC key who
is the CEO, dear 23andme. Customers, I want to reach out
to you about the FDA letter that was sent to 23 and me last
Friday, it is absolutely critical that our customers get
quality and get high quality genetic data they can trust. We
have worked extensively with our lab partner to make sure that
the results we return are accurate. We stand behind the
data, that when we were we stand behind the data that we returned
to customers, but we recognise that the FDA needs to be
convinced convinced of the quality of our data as well,
which is a lie, because this is not what the letter says I read
the letter, and the FDA is not questioning. They're testing.
They're questioning what they are marketing. And this is where
it gets this is where you get into philosophical discussion,
which I find the only interesting part is can a test a
basically a test tube of saliva that is sent off in the mail,
can that be classified as a medical device? Because that is
the law that the FDA is pointing to? And I think that's that's a
conversation worth having?
Yeah, the device arguments a little weak, it seems to me. I
think if they went after them for diagnosis without having an
MD kind of thing, or go or this sort of blanket, I mean, they go
after websites to tell you to take two aspirin. They go after
individuals who are natural via you know, the natural,
you can't do it. Yeah, of course, there's no sign take our
vitamin
Beach, well, boom, knock, knock knock, hey, you're gonna tell
people to do that?
Yeah. So here's an animal a one paragraph of an analysis that I
got from someone who's in the field, about the risks to while
23andme can tell you you have risk based on genetic
information, they can't tell you absolute risk in any meaningful
way. Because the vast majority of diseases people are
interested in don't have a very strong genetic component. Even
when heritability scores are high, the link genes are very
weak associations. So these guys are selling a product to
diagnose health and make health decisions, which has not been
approved by the FDA, the product is questionable and wouldn't
actually pass muster as a diagnostic test. Even though
they aren't even all that rigid about those kinds of tests. The
FDA, this is a no brainer, they should have been shut down a
long time ago. As for if the data you can get for this price
is any good. We won't even get to that step. If you even if you
assume the data is perfect. They can't do what they're claiming
to do. And if they could, they would need FDA approval to do
so. So I think the data may be reasonable. I've seen a lot of
people who have compared it to other expensive tests. And and
it seems like the database
outsourcing it just and doing it getting a Bulk Rate. Yeah. I'm
sure that you know if it's done by one of these major firms that
normally charges 5000 bucks, the reason they were charging 5000
bucks because there wasn't a huge demand for this sort of
thing. There was a demand for identification DNA, which is a
different thing.
Right. And it's interesting the other other companies that were
doing this Navigenics was one company they were acquired last
year by Life Technologies. So So that's off the market. These
really are the only guys left and I did put in the show notes
A article from 2009 from the New York Times where it specifically
talks about how genes show limited value in predicting
diseases, so the hereditary stuff, it's interesting, you
know, I'm part Neanderthal or whatever, you know, that's sure,
let's see if you're if you're if you care. But really, in
predicting diseases, it's still a pipe dream. And while I'm
excited for people who want to know and think this is great
democratisation of health care, and you'll have some
personalised medicine in the future, you know, it's a little
early to lay this on to the public. Because the public is
dumb.
Yeah, yeah. This unfortunate situation. Seems to be true.
Yeah. So it will be very interesting on Sunday cuz I was
just gloating. I'm just like, he's stupid recreational data.
Recreational data, that's recreational, big data.
That's it says it on the 23andme has a disclaimer.
It says, Oh, this is just a game. Yeah, like a disclaimer.
Horowitz. And I have when we pick stocks, exactly.
We may or may not hold these stocks. But we're really just
crapping around here. Yeah, let me let me see where there I have
their, their disclaimer here on the website somewhere, just a
game.
That's exactly know that for some reason, I don't know why.
But yeah, the old disclaimer, well, you know, they come out of
Silicon Valley thinking. So everything's got a disclaimer,
you know, and then if you hurt yourself using the product, then
you're you're not, you know, the company is not liable. We say so
right here. And you're, there's a EULA.
Yeah, I think what, what really irks me about the the reason why
I'm irked about this company, is because they have that Silicon
Valley. We're a disruptive mentality. That's what bugs me
about it. And it doesn't matter who it is. But you know what I
mean, you know, that like, oh, yeah, we're disruptive. I know
what you mean, I live here. Get out of the way. We are
disruptive technology. It's arrogant. It's just arrogant.
It's like actually, someone wrote a good article about this.
In PC Magazine, let me see if I have the article here. And
compared 23 Emmys arrogance to the Goldie Blox. You may have
seen this commercial on television, it's girls, and you
know, they're there. It's basically a commercial for kind
of tools for girls. And the whole idea is, girls also want
to be engineers. And you know, we don't just want to have
Barbies, etc. But this company GoldieBlox they use the Beastie
Boys, song, girls. They did a parent quote, unquote, parody.
But of course, it can't really fall under the rules of under
the parody ruling of the word. I'm looking for it to
be humorous.
But now, what's the what can I think of that? Well, I don't
know what you're driving when it's parody or news. You can
copy something and it's fair use fair use. Thank you. Very Oh,
that's
what you're looking for.
Yes, fair use, but it can't be fair use because they're using
it to promote it's an ad. They're using No, that's
that's a violation. I mean, even first of all, it has to be you
can't do that ads are really they're really rigid about that.
You can't use somebody's likeness. You can't even look
like look alikes are usually up to be sued. There's a lot of if
you're going to make money if you're doing something to make
money off of somebody else's copyrighted work or image or
anything, you will get sued. Let's
check this out. So this is a Silicon Valley company. And Adam
YALC Yao Xiao crowd the Beastie Boys when he died, he put in his
will, that the Beastie Boys music that he was involved in
may never be used for advertising. And so the Beastie
Boys actually sent this company a note and said, Hey, man, you
know, it's really funny and cool, but we really don't want
you to do that. In fact, our dead partner also specifically
request you don't do that. And this company, turned around and
sued the Beastie Boys first. So this is the arrogance of Silicon
Valley,
Silicon Valley, douchebags come to the fore what's the name of
this group? Golden go ox
old D blocks, Gol D iy. BL o x GoldieBlox. The article is
written by Sascha Segan
PCs lashes are the guy who does all the phones and stuff.
But there was a good article and it says the same thing with
23andme. And basically, these people are arrogant, and they're
not alone. Willie, Willie Brown who's your mayor? Was your mayor
Willie Brown, the old the old San Francisco Mayor.
Willie Brown.
Let me see if I can find I can't hear you. Right. Well, this is
loading.
You can't hear me. Well, while it's loading.
I met you. I just hear you breaking up. But that's okay.
Now what who you're looking for?
Was it to I think it was Willie Brown. What did he do? He wrote
an article about I'm looking for it right now wrote an article
about San Francisco saying, you know, you tech companies and
particularly, yeah, Willie Brown says techies have started a
class war in San Francisco.
Yeah, I can buy into this.
Let me let me he I guess he has a column in the in the
newspaper.
I don't know that. He does. But okay. It's called Willie's
world. Yeah, and, and he says there's a war brewing in the
streets of San Francisco and a lot of people could get caught
up in it if the tech world doesn't start changing its self
centred culture. Every day in every way from rising rents to
rising prices at restaurants to its private buses, the tech
world is becoming an object of scorn. It is only a matter of
time before the techies youthful lustre fades and they're seen as
just another extension of Wall Street. The Hell yeah, Willie.
Right on. He goes on to say you know, you hit the tech world
needs to nip this thorny plant in the bud. They need to come
off their high cloud efforts to save Africa or wherever they
take adventure vacations and start making things better for
folks right here. They need to start helping in Hunters Point
and in Chinatown, most of our most of all, they need to start
hiring locals. Yes. Very good.
Well, they had a one of the things that what they've done
and Twitter's one of the and Facebook are both offenders
here. But there's other companies that are in the city
that just almost as bad, but they're right downtown, they
were given a sweet deal to to put a their operations right in
the middle of like Market Street where it's just a slum. I mean,
our main street in San Francisco Market Street is a slum. Yeah,
it is. So they put their operations there, but they
essentially put guards and they shuffle over to the you know,
they use a lot of Uber cars and they essentially do not spend
any time on the streets, these people and they go straight into
the office at work. It's a completely you know, kind of a
it's a cocooned environment. And they didn't go out mix or deal
with the homeless or anything. And then they've jetted because
they all seem to be renters, nobody seems except a very few
have a clue about the benefits of property ownership with their
kind of money they have. So they so they've got all these so the
cities over built with extremely expensive apartments. I mean, if
you go past one of these real estate companies, and you look
at these, the prices on these apartments, we're talking about
an apartment that are actually they I guess they're kind of
condo like apartments, maybe they're condos, but whatever
they are, they're millions of dollars. If you looked at the
real estate prices in San Francisco,
I'm waiting for you to get the hell out of there. You got to
pack up before this thing goes by mail going up. So it's like
your own personal Bitcoin. You got to get out John, you got to
cash in now. Your house, which, honestly was I mean, it's it's
eight and all that, but it's probably a $2 million
house now. Not quite well.
You gotta set a line in the sand and get out. I need a backup
plan. My rich friend John, get out. You probably own that
thing. You are old enough. You've lived there long enough?
No, actually, we always take money out of this place. But we
never take so much out because as a writer, they won't give you
the deal. You don't get any take a lot out. They don't get any
deal. They always assume Yeah, you know, you're a bum.
You are a bum.
So they don't give you they won't give you enough to you
know, you can do some some maintenance. But it's not like
so yeah, most of the places paid for and then I have my mother's
old place. Oh, right. And then which is going to be worse. So
eventually, you could you could put 20 Python programmers in
there.
Mimi wants to build these mini houses for people.
Oh, and why don't you just call it Mimi's agenda 20 one.com I'll
be great. 23 and me 23andme services are for research,
informational and educational use only we do not provide
medical advice, which of course is the rub because they are.
This means two things. First, many of the genetic discoveries
that we report have not been clinically validated. And the
technology we use, which is the same technology used by the
research community to date has not been widely used for
clinical testing second, in order to expand and accelerate
the understanding of practical application of genetic knowledge
and healthcare. We invite all genotype users to participate in
the 23. And we research participation. And this is
really what is about this is why 23andme bugs me because they are
the Twitter of health, they essentially are making you pay
for them to build their database to go and sell to really big
firms or, or themselves sell out to be a big firm, because they
have a million different genetic profiles, that is their game,
they don't care about you. And they'll give you anything any
shiny thing that you think is awesome. Like your the chance of
you having micro penis or your kid, if you have micro penis,
you probably know by now you don't need the test. Net, but
some people need
so we're not gonna,
we're not gonna do that we're not going to do that. So I'm
very happy that this has happened. And I want and I'm
very curious to see what the next step will be. I personally
am very interested in using the open source stuff that I think
is kind of cool this
Prometheus results to then throw it into the other system. Yeah,
and
it's and they're accessing the same SM SMP data. So you can
analyse anything, make your own, you know, it's fine, you charted
graphic, do whatever you want. But, you know, but these guys
are charlatans. I tell you charlatans, anyway, but I
thought it was quite funny. Particularly with the dinner
coming up. That should make for an interesting little,
little pin or no height table taken, personally.
And food is always good. Yeah, I guess that helps. And I've
really liked these people. It's not that hard to like people who
just differ in in opinion. You just got to stay away from
certain topics. Well,
as you see, you're live in Berkeley. No, because you're
surrounded, it would be different. You are surrounded.
Well, you're all Hummers, which makes you more annoyed.
You know, Austin is its its own little Berkeley in Texas.
There's no doubt about that. Instead, it's very much
a Deborah Sterling, who is a runner of Goldy bucks doesn't
really she doesn't have much of a background. She is just
essentially just graduated from Stanford 2005. Worked at a
couple of companies for a couple of years. And then she came up
with this idea. It's very actually difficult to find much
on her. She looks like Kiki Stanford, or Stanford.
She's one of those.
She has Yeah, she almost has the exact same look.
And I'm all for what I like her product. I like the idea of
selling spray
probably but this idea of of exploiting, you know, of going
off the reservation and pulling a stunt like this and then suing
the Beastie Boys is really it's abhorrent?
Yes. Yeah. Well, that but that is the arrogance of Silicon
Valley. And we see it everywhere. And it's the basis
of this whole Snowden thing. Everything points right back to
Silicon Valley. With Google's arrogance that you know, they
provide you with all the best things in life and you don't
need to pay for it and and they're they're selling your
data out the backdoor and meanwhile, feigning some great
insult at the front door. You know, the NSA documents have
been being capitalised upon by Glenn Greenwald with a Silicon
Valley Insider. They're selling it in bits and dribs and drabs
the whole thing the whole place is discussed disgust disgust me.
It disgusts me. However, it's Thanksgiving and all I want to
say John is thank you for your courage and in the morning,
yeah, in the morning, do you Adam curry and also want to say
in the morning all the boots on the ground feet in the air subs
in the water and all the Dames and all the nights out there?
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These are the people who keep the show running by doing
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Well, we had a good turnout today. Thank you for this
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getting rarer as an episode number so yeah, these
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executive producer as well as hopefully the 69 club I feel
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One. I'm showing support for what I do care for. That's very
cool. And my ex was actually in Edmonton. He's not in Alberta.
He's in the classy little town of Edmonton.
Is the Xbox One that expensive?
No, okay. Till he doesn't, but he wants to next bucks want to
know.
No way. So
here we go. The Baron is Silicon Valley, Sir David Foley from
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He he is a Duke. He's not a baron. I've had email.
He puts somebody puts bear You're right. He's the Duke.
Yeah, he's a Duke.
And somebody somebody puts keeps putting Baron in the
spreadsheet, which is factually incorrect.
Is $569 Oh my goodness. ITM John and Adam this for providing the
best podcast in the universe on Turkey Day. And I
just want to say I am disgusted by all of Silicon Valley except.
Whoa, what did you just do? John? What what are you doing?
And didn't do anything?
Well, you walked away and your your something like brought your
volume up and I heard you I heard the guy coughing on the
street. Wow. Anyway, I was saying that I loathe all of
Silicon Valley except for Sir David Foley are our Duke What
are you looking at peerage?
No, it's not the point. I have a note here and I gotta go find
it. Okay, this is a note from Brian s Hall and arbour Michigan
who has his accounting and brought in came in with the
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they held this is small notes, so I'll pick it up for the mid
thing.
Why it's just unbelievable. I haven't it wasn't an email or
No, no, no, it's a written notice came in as a check. Okay,
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You should ask your relatives for that meeting
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Oh, okay. Write that down. Are we bringing them up on stage or
do we just I'm not gonna bring those I think I think for this
we should call them to the champagne room. Because we have
some waiting,
sir. Bert, you lost your wallet.
Exactly. In the champagne room, in between the couch. Okay,
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He's just he's got it going on. Yeah, he's
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coworker uttering these words to no one in particular,
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In spite of the scatological undertone, which I confirm via
Urban Dictionary, we have found this cryptic utterance
deliriously funny, I suspect elf. They weren't for large
corporations, which shall remain anonymous building MRI coils. So
go figure. Yeah,
those guys read the poop.
In lieu of requesting a clip may I suggest that along with the
mutton meat and other goodies, I could easily go for some
librarians and Jager bombs.
Okay, we'll add that to the list.
That's it's always good to say Yeah, got
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It's like just handed over to your fret your buddy your
family's kids and watch the fun. And by
the way, what we like to do in the Dvorak family, you have like
Eric's got his kids. So what you want to get the kids is like a
drum set. One of those mechanical machine guns a
vuvuzela says he's got different kids. You want the both of the
kids to have the machine guns. You're pulling in your shoot. It
makes nothing but the worst sounding. drum sets also good.
The kids probably won't be able to get enough volume on.
It's funny. You really do that.
That's again, it gives you you actually do that.
Yeah, I bet you do. You're you're in a hole like that. You
are good to Eric's Kids,
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So we're gonna do the Make It Rain during the regular segment,
right? We'll do Yeah, okay. You are you writing these names?
names down? Janine, you got Janine, you gotta call her to
the main stage.
She got it early because I already got a script but okay.
Writers on this thing you got a team. Your team? You're writing
team.
He says I want to suggestions for cooking a Thanksgiving meal
I can make Well my wife is away. turkey sandwiches.
Turkey loaf is already cooked one 800 Domino's my friend.
Good wine selection. You know, Turkey is great because it goes
with everything. So you can have champagne, which I would
recommend which is
what I got from my friends upon your recommendation.
Yes. You got some poll, Roget. Yeah. champagnes a winner.
Beaujolais is a winner. pinos a winner actually vollum Cabernet
is probably the weakest one I think good Chardonnay would also
where I really
liked your suggestion of the champagne though because that's
like yeah, I can see how that really goes well with Oh yeah.
with Turkey. Although I think people would like most people
think oh, what we're not celebrating anything.
No the champagne. People are irked about this meme by the way
the celebration thing it's only champagne should not be seen as
a celebrate me you can if you want for some celebration but
for what Champagne is a dinner wine. Is a very specific dinner
wine you can have it anytime you want. And it goes with pretty
much everything you know any goes great
with Janine in the champagne room.
They would but that Champagne is yours the junk by the way. They
don't have good champagne
and has joined depends on who you know.
Sir Brian Ferguson and Foothill Ranch California also to 2222
He's on the Sunday show. I made a simple comment. I am a night
not a new night is wanted to be called Sir Brian. We reunited.
Reunited me it felt kind of weird. I have a ring already. So
Thursday show I'm a double night after this contribution. Baronet
just figured out how close I wasn't. It was so close to two
times make it rain. What the heck. So my two names are my two
ex wife Shirley and Donna.
Write them down. Perfect. Perfect. Well, that's a good
that's a an that. Thank you. I was if people want to know what
I'm thankful for, besides my the two beautiful women in my life,
my daughter, my wife. I am very thankful that there are people
out there who give a crap about what we say and actually listen
to us and are interested in helping us.
Yes, I appreciate that to an extreme. I want to thank
everybody who became a producer or executive producer for the
show and I want to remind you to go to divorce.org/in A to help
us out for the show coming up on Sunday which is essentially the
the end of the holiday weekend where we'll be driving back and
we were here we are working again.
That's right. That's right. All right, because it's what we do.
Miss Mickey is out in LA she's you know she did her shoot on
Wednesday. She's not coming back until Saturday. Hmm. How does
that work?
You got this texter the sex texter chicken border so
I want to thank clearly a no agenda producer for putting in a
great Easter egg slash PR moment although, you know, it's been
completely misinterpreted by the mainstream media, obviously, but
people in the know are clear that the person who does This
particular computer programming is a listener of the best
podcast in the universe to Georgia
now where DeKalb County officials are scratching their
heads over a jewel form, the online form lists slave as an
occupation. But central jurors who filled out the new forms
said they selected s for sales. But what they got was the
occupation slave.
Yeah, I was gonna clip that too. It's very funny. You know,
that's
gotta be that's got to be a no agenda producer.
I hope so.
Yeah. But the funny thing is, they
just slipped it in. So at some point, just, but it was just, it
was a totally easter egg a bomb. He's like one of the things you
kind of do. Nobody can catch you there. They're gonna look into
it.
But here's the crazy thing is I saw at least four reports.
Mainstream media reports and they're and they're showing or
asking people on the street, but only black people. How do you
feel about that? It's like, but slave, you know, Slack.
I saw they had a one cup of white people in one of the
stations. And they laughed about it thought it was hilarious.
Yeah, because I mean, everyone's him. This is not the term slave.
And this is this is I guess what I take exception to this for
some reason. Whenever you hear the word slave, we were only
allowed to think that is the black man working for the white
man on the plantation. Whereas we had slaves in Egypt. We still
got slaves everywhere in the world slaves you got slaves were
slaves were slaves to the man. That's it's a generalised term.
And I we have to take that back a little bit. I feel we can't
let that just be one type of a visual for people. That's maybe
just me. No agenda. People know what it's all about vorak.org/n
A and why don't you go out and find some of your fellow slaves
and propagate our formula?
Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth
shut up. There we go. There we go. Ah, because Mickey was out
of town. I had a lot of time to look into stuff. A lot.
Yeah, she's not running around the town. Yeah, that's okay.
Yeah, well, what did you find out?
Well, I looked into a number of things you want to talk about
Iran.
I always I love talking about Iran.
Iran is so we had this deal. This, all of a sudden, this this
big deal. And, and I think the people getting a raw deal in
general, about what this is really about. Because if you
listen to the news, then it's only about the bomb and you
know, making the bomb. And then we can let them have a bomb. And
it's all about the bomb. So let me play a couple of these
things. And there was some confusion, of course, because
there's actually no deal nothing is nothing has really happened.
Here is see which order should I play this and I think this is
Kerry with Candy Crowley talking about what this deal is not
so you, at this point, trust Hassan Rouhani, the new
president in Iran to be able to follow through,
are you convinced that he has the power to do so because you
know that the hardliners in Iran? Certainly are singing a
different tune than has been sung at the negotiating table?
Absolutely. Absolutely. We're well aware of that. And the
simple answer to you is, none of this is based on trust. It's not
a question of trust. Yeah,
that's what I'm like, Oh, really?
Is this guy by the way? This guy, that little tongue thing he
does? He's still happening. Yeah. Does that bother you? It
creeps me out.
I learned a long time ago from a CIA agent, that when you are
meeting with someone, and when they do that, when they stick
their tongue out like that, whatever they proceeded, that
motion was a lie. That is how I've been taught to interpret
the tongue. And if you look at his speech I play a little bit
of that as well. Here is explaining you see it's right
here. Iran has the has no right to enrich yet they can which he
I guess he's doing with Stephanopoulos every single time
that lie, there's something that you would even think is a lie.
The tongue comes out. It's not consistent. It's not like always
licking his lips or anything. It really is when right after he
tells a lie.
What is the US position does the US respect and recognise that
right of Iran? Yes or no?
No, there is no right to enrich. We do not recognise a right to
enrich. It is clear you In the, in the NPT, in the Non
Proliferation Treaty, it's very, very clear that there is no
right to and read, however, but under the terms of this
agreement, there will be a negotiation over whether or not
they could have a very limited, completely verifiable,
extraordinarily constrained programme, where they might have
some medical research or other things they could do. But there
is no inherent right to enrich. And everywhere in this
particular agreement, it states that they could only do that by
mutual agreement, and that nothing is agreed on until
everything is agreed on.
Okay. And so here, I'm like, alright, what is this really
about him started getting interested, then he does a
little video, which was published on video.state.gov,
which was meant for Congress, but it was published for the
public. And he's talking to the can the Congress, men, women and
Senators, as if they're morons, by the way, so Well, maybe
rightly so. And here is his explicit explanation of
enrichment. And as a couple of things, he said in here, that
maybe go down the rabbit hole
on enrichment, we are eliminating Iran's stockpile of
already enriched 20% enriched uranium,
by the way, the fact that he's saying Iran and not Iran tells
us there's no agenda producers and listeners, he's not really
in on the deal. Because we know right, people who are really in
with what's going on, who are really doing the business, they
say Iran, we are,
it's a code, it's code. They're a centrifuge programme, where it
is today,
hold on, listen to what listen to the words he's using here.
Uranium, we are holding their centrifuge programme, we are
holding their centrifuge programme where it is today. And
we are stopping them from using their most advanced centrifuges.
These are centrifuges that can separate uranium very quickly
and do the wrench Richmond very fast. So they're very risky. And
that's why we keep them away from that process. For now,
we keep them away from that process. For now,
on plutonium, we're putting on hold
the most we're putting on hold, we're putting on hold meaningful
parts of their reactor that's currently under construction, in
a place called Iraq, Iran. Now this is their most likely source
of plutonium. And that's why it's something we are absolutely
determined.
So he's talking like he's a supplier of parts, which, in
fact, is exactly what's happening. This is about So this
agreement, which we don't really have, truly the written
agreement, nothing has really been set in stone, there's been
all kinds of back and forth, the the news media, then their
typical political oscillation, are showing you this is about
stopping them from getting a nuclear weapon or creating a
bomb or killing everybody in the Middle East, which, of course,
is ludicrous. You know, that to be frightened into something
that they believe this bullcrap, I went, and I found the
sanctions as they stand against Iran, and held that against what
was published on whitehouse.gov as to what the our end of the
bargain is going to be. And here's, here's the way you have
to look at this. And this will be a conversation for you around
your Thanksgiving Day table. When everyone says, Boy, we're
so happy that President Barack Obama and John F. Kerry are
saving us from the evil Iranians. This is not what
that's about. This is about determining who gets to do
business with Iran and in Iran, because this isn't the sanctions
are 80 pages. And if you look at what they're saying in their so
called Deal Memo, John, this is only about who gets to buy
petroleum and petroleum products from Iran. It's it the sanctions
are not against Iran, the sanctions against other
countries. So to give an example, we have the companies
and countries that are allowed to buy from Iran that we have
somehow determined are allowed to buy from Iran exclude a whole
bunch of other countries is it's really quite funny when you see
who is and who and who isn't allowed to buy. So we have since
1998, by the way these sanctions been going on for a long time
because it is a regulation of a market. This is not has nothing
to do with terrorism or nuclear warfare since 1998. The
companies that are that have a waiver for sanctions are total
of France, Gazprom from Russia and PETRONAS from Malaysia.
exempted our stock oil from Norway Eni, from Italy Royal
Dutch Shell and Britain in the Netherlands. sanctioned however
Bella rousse Bella rosneath No you can't buy oil sanction
petrochemical commercial company international Bailiwick of
Jersey and Iran Royster group from the United Arab Emirates
tanker Pacific from Singapore, all the Monaco, Venezuela, all
these people, no, you can't buy the oil. This is and by the way,
is not oil that goes into your truck, or your car. These are
petrochemical products that are necessary for life as we know it
today. It's the light sweet crude that is really necessary
for products at correct John.
Well, sweet, crude, or heavy crude or any of them are goes
through a refinery and then they can be made into anything from
gasoline to kerosene to jet fuel to plastic.
Right. But we've already determined that a lot of this is
not necessarily about stuff that is going into your car. It is
the derivative petroleum products that Iran has in
abundance that we really need.
That that really, that would be most like crude tends to be end
up as diesel or gasoline. Hmm. I don't think it changes your
thesis. Okay.
There's a a change in some of the rules. Iran may not accept
gold for payment for their oil and petroleum products. This is
stipulated so no, that's
again. Yeah. But that's actually a good catch. Because, you know,
there's there's all of this going to your petro dollar
and we need to keep them on the dollar. Of course. Yeah. And,
and we the United States, we are regulating the money. Because we
have it all locked up. You see. So if if a company is going to
buy some oil or petroleum products from Iran, it runs
through us. It is a great for some reason, someone decided,
hey, we need to open that up a little bit. But the United
States, we I guess somehow through John Kerry are
determining who gets to buy this and who doesn't get to buy this.
And the sanction. This is kind of, I don't know if you saw,
like they were all congratulating and hugging each
other. And you had Carrie hugging that no neck, no chin
monster, the High Representative, Baroness Ashton.
They're all high five. And yeah, the qualifications
does she have to bear in that job?
Well, she's the reason why she was there. Of course, she's
these are all people who are part of the Security Council.
It's the P five plus one, which is the Big Five and oh, yeah,
we'll add the crowds in there, get my nation Deutschland is the
plus one or the EU three plus three, well, these code things.
But this is all about who gets the who gets the oil, who gets
it. The sanctions are not against Iran, the sanctions are
against the all the other countries and we're determining
who gets to have some of it. But we're being misled into
believing this is like some deal. And everybody on
television, all the talking heads are talking about bomb
this bomb, that it's bullshit. We know from Iranians that in
Iran, people are like, they're on the same page, the Americans
and the Iranians. It's a big show.
But have we did the VA deconstructed this enough? Or
have you to determine what is Israel's role in all this?
Because they seem to be the most bent out of shape about?
Well, I think they're bent out of shape, because they've got
the Leviathan field, which is gas and oil. And you know, and
they need to sell it, they need to start up the they need to
start sales. That's the only thing I can I can see, you know,
this is the discovery of the leviathan field really turned
Israel from a net importer to an exporter. And they need to get
going particularly to countries that they have relatively close
access to outside the Mediterranean, which, you know,
through Cyprus and Greece and or even Italy would be
over this a million times. But I just it just seems to be not
being convinced of the this being the sole purpose of their
their objections and their sabre rattling and when do we did have
you figured out why these countries have been kind of
circumscribed from the ability to trade with Iran? What What
the I'm sorry, one example of one country why we hate them?
Well, I'm sorry, it's funny you say that because I didn't say I
didn't mention any countries I mentioned companies. And these
companies are in particular countries issues ownership. You
know, we don't own anything, any of this Venezuela crap. So no,
not in denied. That's, that's it makes its total Oh, it's BP, its
shell. It's you know, it's the Seven Sisters or whatever
they're called. It's those guys. We get to those they get to
participate. Everybody else eff off. It's our we control it. The
United States runs Iran. That's, that is that's just what I'm
gonna have to state. We're running it. We own it, we
determine who gets what this deal is not about nuclear
weapons is deals about who gets to have some, and who was Barack
Obama doling it out to today? On March 20 2012, the Secretary of
State announced the first group of 11 countries that have
achieved an exemption for significantly reducing oil
purchases. So here are the countries that reduce Belgium
Czech Republic France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Japan, the
Netherlands, Poland, Spain, Britain, the exemptions for
these 11 countries were all renewed. Took me who's renewing
it we're the boss of this we say you can't take from Iran and
then people do it. Now we say oh, you can have a little more
it's it's like 4 billion in annual sales which is nothing
but you know, so maybe it's being misused to to change the
new cycle since it is a relatively small a small deal
but the funny thing is you think that it's a deal with Iran but
it's not that's why everyone's like hug and carry all Thank
you. Well, thank you I can have more oil now. Thank you so much.
I appreciate that's what it is. It's crazy. eight holes we rock.
We really really do. And when Hillary Clinton gets in and
she's pregnant Yeah,
I should say she'll she'll up the ante on all this stuff. Oh
yeah, well she she laid the ground she's actually want to be
be called the Queen Empress is gonna change your name you watch
it's gonna be like Ming the merciless
she well, she deserves it. As you know I'm I'm a big fan I
think we should it's important people understand that that we
have to make it worse before it gets better. So we got to get
her in. Anyway the the on hold thing. There's a lot of GE parts
that they need for for their reactors for the centrifuges and
GE you know, gets to sell some but not all so it's all it's all
controlled. We've been controlling parts for their
aircraft for their O's see we even control the the iAds parts
for their air buses which apparently they have a few we
control it all this document.
Maybe Netanyahu is just clueless Do you think that's possible
now now? No. It could be he's just just wants it maybe he just
wants a reality show
I'm not completely buying his position is whatever well we
had the well it could also be John let's look at it from a
different perspective and remember he held up the the
drawing of the wily coyote bomb at the United Nations with a
little fuse in it with the arrow so maybe he's just the layup man
maybe he's just setting it up for for us to hammer it in to
keep people
good be the setup guy right to the possibilities front man just
keep
everybody focused on the bomb the bomb the bomb meanwhile,
don't look at other exporters to Iran. Let's see I have the list
here. It's in the sanctions. Here are the companies who have
been allowed to export to Iran Mars company Kraft Foods,
Wrigley's McCormick and CO so they've got candy bars, chewing
gum, mac and cheese and some spices.
And they have plenty of spices in I think the McCormick deal is
to get McCormick in so they get spices out
well so now what's happened yes well now what's happening is you
seeing because the sanctions were lifted you're seeing
companies everywhere freaking out because they don't want to
get in because it's going to be a Libya like Bonanza without the
bomb dropping down towards about the war zone. Yeah, so here's
the Oh f AC had approved exports to Iran have condiments such as
ice cream sprinkles. Hey, hey, Muhammad Mustafa. You Persian.
How's your sprinkles? Enjoy the American sprinkles, hot sauces,
bodybuilding supplements all all being exported to Iran. You
wouldn't think it though the way you hear everyone talking like
they're the most of the crazy crazy you're gonna kill us blow
us up. So that was an eye opener for me that just like this, this
deal we're seeing it all upside down. Is the Deal is not about a
bomb. It's about who gets to profit from Iran. And I am
looking at the people who are jumping up and down looking at
Baroness Ashton. I'm thinking this might have been a little
bit of a fig leaf towards the EU for our tea tip negotiations.
Could be, but it's not repeat not about terrorism and some
some bomb stuffs about terrorism. I mean, the public.
You know, it's just like you think they let the American
people in on some of this, this action?
Can you imagine how great we would be if people actually
understood this? We'd be we'd be all filled with I think Congress
would get something done. People be like, hell yeah, you wouldn't
have to spend all the time bullcrapping the public in this
or scaring them? Yeah. You're gonna get killed? Yeah, exactly.
They wouldn't make that making it worse by bringing in this
common core and some of these other initiatives that just are
obviously intended to dumb down the public.
It's funny, you know, for today's show, I wanted to do
something upbeat. I know. It kind of wrecks our model. But
specifically regarding regarding common core, I wanted to bring
in a voice from the grave. Someone who I have always held
in high regard. And it's from an interview that from 1995, a two
years before he returned to Apple to make it legendary
again, a Steve Jobs talking about education. And I have
three quick little clips of taken on this is a pretty well
known interview, I think it was I'm sure you've seen this John,
This interview was like PC magazine or something 1995 They
were trying to codify people from the beginning of Silicon
Valley. Do you know this interview of jobs?
If I hear it, I might have heard it before.
And as it relates to common core, it's very interesting to
hear him specifically, say some things about education, and
really how the educators today and the Governors Association
and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, all these people who
were all in on Common Core, and the testing and the standards
and turn teachers into test takers and data analyzers are
wrong. Here's how here's what got Steve Jobs interested in
what he's doing today. And through education in fourth
grade, I encountered one of the other saints in my life, which
was I, they discovered they were going to put me in the sky, Rick
Tarantino and have the same fourth grade class. And the
principal said at the last minute, no, no bad idea,
separate them. So this teacher, Mrs. Hill said, I'll take one of
them. And she taught the advanced fourth grade class. And
thank God, I was the random one that got got put in her class.
And she watched me for about two weeks. And she then approached
me, she said, Steven, I'll tell you what I am. I'll make your
deal. I have this math workbook. And if you take it home, and
finish it on your own, without any help, and you bring it back
to me, if you get it 80%, right, I will give you $5. And one of
these really big sucker, she bought it, she held it out in
front of me all these giant things. And I looked at her
like, are you crazy lady? Nobody's ever done this before.
And of course, I did it. And she basically bribed me back into
learning, with with with candy and money and, and what was
really remarkable was that, you know, before very long, I had
such a respect for her that I sort of reignited my desire to
learn. And she was remarkable she she got me kits for making
cameras, you know, I ground my own lens and made a camera and
it was it was really quite wonderful.
Real education there. And, and I like it because as you know, I
am a big fan of bribing kids with hookers and blow it works.
Now that this interviewer goes into this next bit and says, you
know, well, you're You're famous for putting computers in the K
12. Computers, of course, are going to solve education, which
is where we are at right now, today. Tomorrow is not 20 to 20
years later. And interesting. That is Bill Gates, the arch
nemesis of apple and of Steve Jobs to a certain extent, who is
now doing this, basically saying that big data and computers
that's going to fix education, Steve Jobs, not so on board.
The unions are the worst thing that ever happened education.
Because it's not a meritocracy. It turns into a bureaucracy
which Here's exactly what's happened. And teachers can't
teach and administrators run the place and nobody can be fired.
It's terrible. Well, some people say that the this new technology
may be a networking world, if you will, maybe a way to bypass
that are you opt in? I absolutely don't believe that.
And as you pointed out, I've probably helped put more
computers in more schools than anybody else in the world. And
up until this point in time, and I'm absolutely convinced that
that is by no means the most important thing. The most
important thing is another person, another person that
incites your curiosity that guides your curiosity, that
feeds your curiosity. And machines cannot do that in the
same way people can't
this No wonder they hated each other. He's so on the opposite
side of this. And that, by the way, if you look at all the
money that's going around in Common Core was enough to kill
them just for that attitude. And I'm thinking more and more that
there was no reason to help them out. Let's put it that way.
final bit in our happy, upbeat little Steve Jobs clip with on
his his ideas about how schools should be run, right now.
If you ask who are the customers of education, the customers of
education are the society at large employers that hire
people, right, things like that. But ultimately, I think the
customers are the parents, not even the students. But the
parents. The problem that we have in this country is that the
customers went away. A customer stopped paying attention to
their schools for the most part, and gave their kids to the Well
what happened was is that mothers started working, and
they didn't have time to spend at PTA meetings and watching
their kids school. Schools became much more
institutionalised. And parents spent less and less and less
time involved in their kids education. And what happens when
a customer goes away, and a monopoly gets control, which is
what's happened in our country, is that the service level almost
always goes down. I remember seeing a bumper sticker when the
telephone company was all 180 and T the Bell System. I
remember seeing a bumper sticker with the bell logo on it. And it
said we don't care. We don't have to know and that's what a
monopoly is. Yeah,
there you go. Yeah, I'm not buying any of it. Not buying and
grinding his own lenses in fourth grade or any of that crap
Don't be me a little romantic John, what is this
it customers the women started working and it's gone to hell
yes, the self esteem movement some of this other stuff that
those same women were promoting? I think he's I think the guy is
an uneducated character. Who is just like gates is he's you
know, he's never Gates has never gone through college and doesn't
know what the process is or what what do you get out of it? Or
what you don't get out of it? Or what was the bogusness is oh, I
can dream he has now but he's a big expert. So I feel the same
way about jobs. I'm not buying any of it. It was it was a good
series a little quick. Currently you seem to get
high. I'm a big fan. I've always been a fan. Little comments.
Let's go. Just do three quick headlines on Common Core then
then use you okay,
yes, finish the common core thing because I want to go to
France where we have no customers ourselves.
Hold on. Massachusetts, has voted to delay implementation of
Common Core. Good Anya, New York School Principals have written a
letter which I've put the letter in the way stop,
stop. Massachusetts, happens to have one of the best state run
educational organisations. And they know this is bullcrap. In
fact, if we modelled everything after what Massachusetts is
doing, we'd be much better off than doing this crazy thing that
you know, the Bill Gates Foundation has dreamed up. Well,
that's the heavy hitters on the board of education in
Massachusetts are saying this, we got to stop this or slow it
down or whatever, and they do not want to implement so there's
hope there New York School Principals have written a letter
of concern about Common Core testing. Not it's, I put it in
the shownotes you can read it yourself, but actually there
it's not just concerned that kind of like, Yo, dude, we gotta
we can't do this crap. And there was an interesting article about
code.org which is the educational outfit backed by
Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey and other douchebags apparently,
they when you sign up for code.org, the I think it was
Valleywag if I can find this here, who discovered that they
take all of your kids data and use it for other purposes. So
you know this education thing. Ever since it's been in To
analyse then we have a Department of Education at the
federal level. It's a big bonanza. It's a big big
moneymaker. And while you still can, the no agenda show
recommends you homeschool.
Yeah, we should try to outline most states.
No, of course, we can't have that. Is it John? Is it John
Taylor? What's his name? John Taylor. I want to say Gotti. Let
me see if that's the guy's name of John Taylor. I think it's
John Taylor Gotti geo TTY Gatto, John Taylor Gatto. It's very
interesting guy, you can Google around and look at some videos,
but he's, for most of his life, he's been writing about the
history of how schools came to be and if you follow his logic,
they've truly are designed to be slave training institutions. If
you look at where the his history of, of where shul, and
that of course it comes from Germanic Schuler, where that
comes from, and, um, that kind of like a lot of his theories, I
think it has been set up that way, you yourself know that. The
education system is set up to create dumb slaves. You have
firsthand Yeah,
in fact, I've always said that the worst writers, if they tried
to get away from the newspaper business, which is dead by the
way, journalism school is designed to create a essentially
drones Xerox machines that could go in and follow a certain style
of writing, which was voiceless, neutral. And they could work at
any newspaper, because they were all the same type of person.
They were cogs in the wheel. And if many of them they always
think that Well, I can go off and do it. I'll do some on my
own. They never can because it's been drummed out, their ability
to do distinctive singular Works has been drummed out of almost
all of them. There's a few that thing manage.
And if you look at the common core stuff, it seems like your
people are being kids are being set up to become when when
someone sent in an interesting note, under the slave training.
Kids are being trained to hear antelope Central High School
train students to handle a call calls emergency calls, like
they're at a call centre. Like their nine. Yeah. Now this is
the training. This is the training kids are getting. And
they actually do it in the classroom. Raymarine 911. What's
your emergency?
Emergency? Yeah, we're training our kids.
Okay, try to show Hey, Billy, let's try this other script.
Okay. You want fries with that? You want anything to drink?
We we have a special on chicken chicken wings.
We have a special on that small pie. And meanwhile, didn't
President
Barack Obama promised a whole bunch of like, educational
stuff? Did that not happen is or is this common core? Is that
what it is? No, no
common core is what it is.
producer Andy sent me a clip from C span which was funny in
two regards. What are the Obama administration's second term
priority is going to look like and education policy? Are they
going to continue to push in the direction they pushed early on
with Race to the Top? Or, or are we going to see more of of what
seemed to take hold during the campaign, which was promised
100,000 more teachers and smaller class sizes? I'd like to
get the panellists starting with Rick maybe to lay out on which
which Barack Obama will we see the second term on Asia. They
know it. They know there's more than one. Which Barack Obama I
don't know the
one who got together it's in the closet. The guy
the guy got inaugurated in the gay one Oh, nice. I think by the
way that Hollywood did something wrong or they haven't been on
their game that like a whole bunch of messages went out to
Hollywood. Just this past week. Let's see we had did like this
whole story about animals that were hurt and killed the making
of movies. And you see these stories? No, I
didn't I missed this. Yeah,
let me see. I have a couple of them. What do you have a Life of
Pi Tiger damn near drowned. Dog punched repeatedly in popular
Disney movie. Spielberg protected by cover up of the War
Horse death. Like all this all this like Hollywood, you suck.
You're horrible. You did. Of course the President was out
going out to Hollywood. I have a feeling and there was a message.
And it's like, hey, you know you really you guys really got to
get on the stick here. And then of course we had this story.
Elkin indicated other big Hollywood players were also
involved, saying quote, when I came to Hollywood, I detach
myself completely from my physical activities to dedicate
myself to what I really wanted filmmaking. This is about Aaron
mill sham the Hollywood producer who all of a sudden in a in an
Israeli television interview, comes out and says I was a spy.
I was a spy I was a Mossad spy. And and I'm thinking he did this
to preempt whatever was coming. That would be a good idea. And,
and this is not news, by the way. And every everybody is
known this guy was an arms dealer, you know, since 2000.
There were are fun articles about this is nothing new
whatsoever. But all of a sudden, I guess he didn't want to be
shamed, or I think something was going on, but sometimes it gets
mixed up. The 68 Year Old Milton owns new Regency films and has
produced more than 120 movies working closely with directors
such as Martin Scorsese and Oliver Stone. He forged an
especially close relationship with actor Robert De Niro, who
was also featured in the Israeli television programme.
I did ask him once we spoke about something and he told me
that he was in his rally and that he's and that he of course
would do these things for his country. Or you want to come to
Hollywood act like a big shot without actually doing anything.
In a story that seems reminiscent to last year's Oscar
winning true to life film Argo that depicted the CIA Hollywood
collaboration to rescue us diplomat stuck in Iran. It's a
safe bet Hollywood execs will be fighting to bring this story to
the big screen to Yeah, Mo Of course there's always that angle
and let's chuckle about this you moronic news models. Now we
reached out to Milton today for comment, Jim but we were told he
is travelling in Europe and unavailable you you know I have
been covering all things Hollywood for a while Jim and
not much surprises me that goes on there these days. But this
this is a web store. He says it's too bad. He's
unavailable when he is available on the situation room and tell
his story to Wolf Blitzer.
He's unavailable it's too bad. He's unavailable. What do you
have to lick his ass because you'd like the king of
Hollywood? George Jones is a spy. That's right. They're all
spies and in service,
which brings me to Chuck Barris who How nice. Chuck Barris of
course who did the gong show. There was a movie about him and
I think Looney was in it. And but it was produced by a pretty
show is produced by Clooney, or is directed Confessions of a
Dangerous Mind. We're bearish comes out and says he was an
assassin for the CIA for all the years that he was doing that
show. Oh, never seen this movie. No, this sounds Oh, you're
missing one of the most entertaining films you will ever
see.
Oh my goodness.
You wrote a book about this. That he was a hitman. And then
he went on and this guy was you know, everyone who knew him from
his show days. And then the movie was done again. And
Clooney does all these movies that are either, you know their
message movies, as far as I can tell, he does all of the
American where he plays an assassin, Syriana, where he's
talking about the drones killing princes all the rest of the sea
the cast of this movie Confessions of a see Dick Clark
played himself. Sam Rockwell played Chuck Barris Michelle
Sweeney Drew Barrymore, I do not see Clooney on this one. He
directed it. Oh, really? Yes. No, it says stars George George
Clooney. Okay, all right.
Cool. He's in on this. So, okay, so you have to watch this movie
and I recommend it to everybody because it's extremely
entertaining. And it's like it's either the just a guy who's
deluded or a guy who actually was a hitman and I don't know
why what why even confessed any of this but you know it's like
the Confessions of an economic hitman as it were, right another
situation where a guy had to tell all who backed off on all
that, by the way you would do if you had a gun pointed to your
head?
No, no, I'd be like, shoot me dammit. I have principles.
He backed off big time. Oh, yeah, he I think it wasn't that
I think they let the book slide. That'd be conventionally the you
know the book came out and that was fine. But then he started to
do volume too right and then he was on the road doing speeches
well then then all of a sudden he stopped everything that's
because he was getting carried away
it's the same with the with the Tim wiener who wrote the legacy
of ashes CIA book which was you know, is almost almost like a
Bible. It got me started in, in media assassination and
understanding you know, what, what the CIA really is about?
And then as FBI book came out, it was like all in it's like no,
like it was sleeping with the with the dead body of Hoover. It
was it's disgusting. It's just lane. totally lame. And I think
he got called to like I'm not going to do one of those books
about the bureau.
Yeah, we saw the other book. We didn't like it.
No, I read it and was horrible. Really?
No, I'm talking to that would be this. The FBI guys calling them
up? Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah, me parking tickets. Do you want a
month? You like, do you like the IRA? It looks like you're
speeding again, according to the satellite that we have looking
at you now.
The IRS, it'd be very nice. Yeah.
There's a lot of ways you can stop. They let them do one
product. And then that's it. I think you can control it. At
that point. You know, the only guy that I think is slightly
still, I think got more to tell us as the guy who did the bush
book, which is another book everyone out there.
Secret while he has a website.
He's got a great website. Yeah, he's
got some good stuff on there. I like what he's doing. What's the
name of the website again? What was his name?
Oh, you can get it by typing in family
secrets and may even point right to that website. Was he again?
Family of secrets.com? Russ Baker? Yeah. Yeah. Who is it
legitimate? High quality high end journalist. He's not like a
slouch. Who what?
why.com that's the that's his website. Who what? why.com
Yeah. Family of secrets.com
this is the guy you know, follow this guy. Not Glenn Greenwald.
This is the guy who's who's really doing some good stuff, of
course, doesn't have the documents that were stolen from
Snowden. But you know, Uncle Don has written a book called I
think it's called shards or something. Shards shards of my
mind or Yeah, like, like fragments, shards not shard?
Like, although that will probably get published quicker.
If I sharted in the CIA,
he can't get it published. And I have I have not been allowed to
read it.
Why? That's probably why I can't get it published. Nobody is
allowed to read it. Ya
know, the thing is, the agency these taking exception, I think,
or they're blocking it or whatever.
Well, obviously, that's what's going on. Because anyone would
love to publish a book like that from
him. I mean, he's, he's famous.
Well, he could just, you know, do a giblet wow,
I got to go to New York. I gotta go talk to go
there. Say hey, we can do a giblet for you know, agenda
press. He'll
probably be like, Adam, this is like for my kids retirement. I'm
not gonna do like no agenda. giblet press with frickin
bitcoins Get out of my way.
Right now they're gonna get nothing. Yeah, that's true.
I need to visit him. And regardless, we gotta go. We have
to go. He's 84. Now it's getting up there. Gotta go.
Yeah, he's getting there. That books, somebody should at least
have a copy of it somewhere buried. Yeah. Well, you know, I
wonder what's in there that the agencies worked about.
He told me some stuff, which I can't repeat. Because, you know,
that would kind of circumvent the whole idea of the trust
relationship. But I don't know. I mean, I agree. I would like to
have at least a copy of it. So I could, you know, and that's all
I want. Like, do just give me a copy for safekeeping. And give
me the raw, unedited, whatever.
It's not a bad idea. You should do that. I'm going to I have got
go giant report that Adam Curry's house was detonated by a
bomb. Apparently racist. Oh,
no, no, no, no, no. Unfortunate gas leak,
or gas leak. Boom,
boom, levelled the whole neighbourhood. The MythBusters
couldn't do it. But for some reason that happens with
increasing regularity.
Before we get to the money, part of the show, let's talk about
France. Now France has got a big deal going on here as you can
tell by my clips, and but do introduce it to people because
it hasn't been played up at all here in the United States. Look,
go to the hookers overview part one so we'll see what's going on
in France.
French daily VPLS. You'll slapped it on its front page
this Wednesday. Prostitution, the world's oldest debate. The
French Parliament this week discussing a bill that would
shift the burden from the sex worker to the clients are 1500
Euro fines for soliciting the services of the same bill would
overturn legislation passed in 2003 that punished prostitutes
for curb calling. That's because of European guidelines. They
consider prostitutes to be the victims.
Before you do anything, I'm a little upset you didn't prepare
me for this because you know we have a jingle for this Oh
I forgot about Okay. So here's what the EU thinks this is the
why the EU now this is a woman who kind of represents the EU, I
think she's French. And they're talking about what the way they
see things. And by the way, this is implemented by the
socialists, who used to be always considered pro hooker as
opposed to the right wing, which is always considered to be oh,
you know, we just as it's a sin.
Now, why is this bill being brought before the French
Parliament at this particular time, one of the co sponsors,
socialist Katelyn Patel explains. To me that
prostitution, prostitution
in France has changed enormously. immeasurably. Most
people working as prostitutes have been trafficked here by
mafia organisations in its modern slavery of people who
come from Africa, Eastern Europe and China. So people who come
here to try to live to survive, you can reasonably say that
prostitutes should not be seen as criminals, but as victims,
and that the client is the one buying sex is the one fueling
prostitution. All right, I
got to stop right here. I got to take some exception of what's
going on here. This is this, by the way, is not just happening
in France, this conversation has been started up in the
Netherlands as well. Now the Netherlands, anyone who is the
40 or over, will will know that if you say Amsterdam or Holland,
people go weed and hookers. And the Netherlands was proud,
proud, I tell you of its extremely liberal stance on
recreational drugs, specifically in the smoking of a plant and of
their prostitution sector, which was out in the open and not
behind closed doors. In fact, in windows were the prostitutes
that pay taxes where they have have free yet mandatory health
care and checkups. And this was always seen as a great
liberation or a proof of how liberal and open minded and by
the way, not just female hookers is all kinds of hookers. And now
I'm just not buying the the statement that all hookers are
traffic sex slaves, I just don't buy it. I know lots of
prostitutes, who like what they're doing temporarily. And
just as it's anyone's choice to have a baby or not to do
whatever you want you this is your choice, too. I know it's
not popular, because it's always Oh trafficking, sex slavery. I
know. I'm not so convinced that this is taking place everywhere
in the EU.
Well on van cat they had a debate with a feminist they had
a guy who wrote some manifesto saying that this is bull crap.
They had a woman who was represented hookers on the horn
in London. Unfortunately, her sound was crappy. Then they had
a professor who I have a clip of who from Sweden because Sweden
apparently is is made it illegal. And they made a big
fuss about it and they showed a map. And what's interesting is
that there's just distinct separation. Sweden, Norway,
prostitution is really bad Great Britain, it's on the map. Bad
bad. And then France is trying to do this and then Iceland but
on the other hand, there's Germany. And then you end up
with the listen to these numbers on this clip hookers on welfare.
Okay, there are those countries like Germany, where since 2002.
Forbidden and punished. And we can also call up a graph of
countries there you see, Sweden, Norway, the Scandinavian
countries, Iceland has also come through with it with a similar
bill. And then there are those countries like Germany, where
since 2002, the sex trade has been completely liberalised now,
that in Germany particular has been sparking a backlash. It was
reportedly even included in coalition talks that have been
going on between the Sedu and the SDP, The Economist newspaper
called The in a recent article, a giant Teutonic brothel,
writing that the best guess is that Germany has about 400,000
prostitutes, catering to 1 million men a day mocking the
spirit of the law. Exactly 44 of them, including four men have
registered for welfare benefits.
So it's a great thriving sector.
In France, where they're complaining about it is 20,000
was the estimate 20 to 40,000 prostitutes in the country,
Germany He's got 400,000 with a million customers a day. There's
got to be like a lot of income flying around here for these
women,
but they don't it's not just women. Let's just say it's not
just women. There's 20% Men male prostitutes, too.
Yeah 20% They estimate at least these guys, the guy that one guy
was saying, Well, you know, most of these these figures and
numbers are bogus and studies have never really been done
right. They're always done by some pressure group that wants
something. But here's another little interesting one that just
really got my attention. Play this Booker's huge Bravo being
built. Really did some work
here, just over the border in the French region of law in the
local press has honed in on plans for a 6000 metre square
metre, five storey brothel called Paradise Island and
sample can the locals also say liberalisation, despite the fact
that there's been all these measures taken to bring it above
board and to have it sanction has drawn more prostitutes to
the streets? tab
five, the five story brothel coming please, that's got to be
something that
my friend has been there. My friend, my British gangster
friend, and he says it's outrageous. He said, it's like,
it's like a mega club. You've got food, you know, as you got
just, you know, like nightclub. It's an amazing place, he says.
And he says, it's really affordable.
Ya know, the prices they gave the women in Germany,
supposedly, it's just yeah, it's a lot less than it is in Las
Vegas, I'd say. So let's play one more clip. This is the
hookers in New Zealand, which is this is the woman from England
who came on and said, you know that these people are full of
crap. And these girls do what they want to do. You know, they
have in some instances, they have really no other choice but
to do this, because they sit because the one feminist as
well. They're only doing it for the money. And then the guy
comes on says, I think most people except Bill Gates, do
everything for the money. And what's your point been mentioned
tonight is what they've done in New Zealand where they
decriminalised prostitution 10 years ago. And first of all, and
then importantly, it has made it safer for women to work because
women, if women are attacked, they can come forward to the to
the authorities and report without any fear of arrest,
whether women are in Germany, if people decided to stay on the
stream doors, we think that governments really should look
at what's happened in New Zealand, where it has shown that
it has made it safer, and safety has to be the priority.
So anyway, so this is reasonable voices, and I'm not going to
play all these clips, but I do want to, I definitely have to
play the Swedish professor.
Yeah, before we get I just want to say that. I think this is the
media always likes this story, which is why it gets played out
so big, because they're prostitutes, but they don't get
to have sex. They get the people who are doing television news
are more abuse than any prostitutes. I know.
I would like to add to this discussion here. The first Mr.
Mihail day he said that prostitution is just like any
other job for people have their free. If you compare
prostitution to say working at a fast food restaurant, people
working at fast food restaurants pay don't have post traumatic
stress disorder or other mental disorders that are just as high
as a treatment seeking combat veterans are victims of state
torture. That's the level of abuse that women in prostitution
face worldwide. There are numerous studies showing that
whether they are prostituted indoors, in strip clubs, even in
pornography on the streets, that the majority has suffered from
mental disorders and a number of physical violence, exercise by
clients. None of these conditions occurring other
regular low, low wage jobs really, really.
So this guy claims at all according to the Swedes and this
they've been pushing this they've all the hookers have
post traumatic stress disorder. They're they're the same. They
have the same mental foundations as a torture victim. And all the
rest of it, which it Yeah, sure, I'm sure you could find some
that are that fall into this category. But it doesn't sound
that way in New Zealand, where you can actually go to the
police and get some some some somebody to get arrested if
something weird happens. Well, I think that this was a very
interesting kind of debate that I thought was if I just kind of
if I
look at the countries that now we've we've covered Scandinavia,
the Netherlands, France, all countries with huge Muslim
immigrant populations. i
Oh, that's very good catch because that's my I thoughts to
this is looks to me to assuage the Muslims or to keep the
Muslims from because they are traitors than white slavery to
keep them from doing their business I don't know what it is
but it there was no coincidence they said Iceland
pretty general statement there John Rawls six trade slave slave
traders
damn damn yeah that is a generalisation then it only
applies to a very small group of Muslims but they do have a even
I think as a whole I think the Muslims would like to do a
foundational changes in the moral code of some of these
countries so well that's we know that I think that's a
generalisation that holds up for the majority of Muslims yes
that's just like their diversity Yeah, I will also give it to the
to Muslims who listened to the show
except now we got a lot of Muslims listen to the show. It's
September 27 2000. They're boarding in enough that's the
Reykjavik City Council approved a building permit for the
construction of the first mosque in Iceland starting there too.
So that's you know that that coincides nicely we know that
Sweden has huge huge months Muslim angry Muslim population
France so you know this is not these things cannot be
overlooked these things are not just coincidences, but the Great
Britain and Great Britain totally they
have a great brands on their map their map showed Sweden which is
largely Muslim in the south of Norway which I don't know what
the connection is there because we don't have a lot of somebody
in Norway to listen to the show to tell us tell us yeah someone
in the Netherlands was not on this map with it with the
highlight
Yeah, but I when I was there, I saw a couple of stories I kind
of ignored it a little bit but now it Phil fits in so
regardless of what is going on all of these stories all these
countries all individually are all part oh
I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda Imagine
all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun
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On your fist. Nice Thanks, guys. Say the warm printers heated up
all of a sudden the war on printers. Yep, the war on
printers. This was this is being covered up of course as the war
against 3d printed guns. Oh,
the war on 3d printers? Yes, yes.
And I actually was keeping this particular clip of
Representative Steve Israel who brought this up again, but I but
I can actually now bring this back to what's really going on.
It's important.
Well, you know, Chris, you're right, the clock is ticking. And
every day that goes by makes the situation much more dangerous
for the American people.
So what are we talking about here what he is talking about?
And what is the cover for this ultimately war on 3d printers,
these printers will be outlawed. And or there will be such
restrictions put on them that they will be almost impossible
to acquire without all kinds of licencing. And proof is the
undetectable gun law. I think that's what it's called, which
is set to expire. And of course it'll get renewed it's very
simple to do that. There's not a not a lot of problems with
people saying hey, you shouldn't have a gun that is undetectable
even though these guns that are undetectable pretty much blow up
in your face. So here's Dear Steve Israel running cover
in 1988, we passed the undetectable Firearms Act
because we did not think that it would be a good idea to allow
bad people to smuggle firearms through metal detectors on our
planes and in high security environments. That was done in
the Reagan administration. It was renewed in the Bush
administration, it was renewed in the Clinton administration
renewed again in the Bush administration. When we renewed
those that law, the prospect of a 3d printed plastic gun was
science fiction. It is a reality and we are only two weeks away
from the expiration of that loss.
Okay, so that's the cover. So what is the news that comes out
yesterday, Delphi
is about to become the first city to ban the printing of 3d
guns. It might seem crazy, but working guns can be made using a
3d printer. So the city's in the process of passing a law to
prevent guns and parts of a gun from being made by anyone other
than licenced gun makers. I think that's a safe thing to do
here. You never want you don't want the wrong person getting
the formula Oh yeah, the code formula,
the code Shut up, you press the tube, okay. So Philadelphia puts
this law down which is 130584. And it literally says, use a
three dimensional printer to manufacture firearms should be
forbidden firearm any device designed made or adapted to
expel a projectile through a barrel by using the energy
generated by an explosive or burning substance or any device
readily convertible to that use. So it will be a restriction on
use no person cell shall use a three dimensional printer to
create any firearm or any piece or part thereof, unless such
person possesses a licence to manufacture a firearm. So this
is, you know, how are you going to enforce that. But more
importantly, why why Philadelphia. And this is proof
of my original theory. I remember Cody Wilson, who now
has pretty much gone away from the 3d printed gun scene and is
now selling a Bitcoin wallet. That's his new thing, because
he's a horror for whoever he pays him to do stuff. His he
only needed to bring this up to the forefront. So we could all
be afraid of 3d printed guns to restrict these printers. Why in
Philadelphia, because it is in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, one
of the three locations of for the Department of Energy and
Department of Defense's additive manufacturing centres. You
remember the President talked about 3d printers and how
exciting they will be in his State of the Union, we we played
all those clips for you when we first came up with the idea that
this is about restricting 3d printers. And so it's a lot of
money involved. There's multiple universities in Pennsylvania,
Pennsylvania is a major hub. In fact, I have an article here,
Pennsylvania to play a major role in 3d printing explosion.
So we need to limit the slaves access to this technology. And
if you look at what's happening now GE, in the next five years,
they will be producing aviation parts with this technology with
additive additive manufacturing. And I have a couple of links in
the show notes. So p and if you look at rapid 2014. Well, rapid
2013 was the main additive manufacturing conference, which
was just held in, in Pittsburgh. The next one is in 2014, will be
held in Detroit. So I fully expect Detroit to be next on the
list with all kinds of banning of 3d printed guns. But put, we
have this in the book, mark my words, there's going to be
licences and restrictions, and maybe a test for you to have a
3d printer. And this is because the big business doesn't want
you to have this technology. And it's it's and it's all under the
guise of Oh, you're going to print something scary. So what
will it be next? What will the next scary thing be that you can
print that there's going to be some restriction on?
A hand grenade?
No, it'll be something it'll be it'll be, you know, it's coming.
The so of course, these printers you can buy now most of them are
kind of for entertainment purposes, I think, Oh, they're
junk.
Yeah.
But it is it is eventually going to be something really cool, but
you're just not going to be allowed to have it. Unless
people start getting in. I think that this is a bad law. Everyone
thinks Oh, of course. But if you can, if you can get one law push
through that restricts using something for a certain purpose,
which you don't need because there's all kinds of laws about
manufacturing things and and how many and for what you said, you
don't need an extra law to forbid the the printing of gun
parts. We're gonna have the Stasi knocking on my door to
come and check and see if I don't have a lower receiver I
printed.
Yeah, no, it's something I think. I don't know if you've
hit this one. But there's something screwy about this.
I'm telling you, John, it's to outlaw this technology.
No, I'm not buying into this at all.
Okay, well, it'll take some time but you This is my been my
theory. And now all of a sudden Philadelphia one of the three
major hubs of 3d printing. Coincidence is rather large.
I guess. I was stung by a piece of news today. ABC News wins
awards.
at ABC World News with Diane Sawyer honoured winner of the
prestigious Edward R. Murrow Award for Best Newscast, ABC
News, honoured with five Murrow awards. See no wonder more
Americans choose ABC News. Wasn't that the World News
Tonight that did the dog and the puppy story? Yeah, yeah. I think
no, I
could do that I could record World News Tonight with Diane
Sawyer every night and there's no world news in any of the
stories. And as always heard Neil breathlessly talking about
something on Twitter. How does she win anything? Or there's
broadcast? It's one five or six. Obviously there are the Edward
R. Murrow award is a piece of crap. who distributes this
award. I know I know, Edward R. Murrow was out of CBS write some
group but yeah, but CBS isn't given an ABC or what is the
Is this the the protection of journalism awards? No, no, and
our T DNA? What is this our T dna.org. Here's Edward R. Murrow
award. Of course, for this, we just have to there's several
good news casts not the person she doesn't get the award. But
their show does. You know the outstanding achievements in
electronic journalism since 1971, who's the Radio Television
digital news Association, they dropped digital and only
recently.
It's like the web these.
Check here for rules and entry requirements. And so then they
doubt you download this huge or not, you can just PDF which is
thinking I'm gonna see what this is. I'll betcha is one of the
things you have to pay.
Oh, yeah. Oh, no doubt. They all have to pay for everything they
all have to pay don't pay for ultimately, one way or the
other.
Now, there are some awards of legitimate awards. You don't pay
necessarily to get an Emmy. He had to be a member member of
the Academy. Sure. Expensive. It couldn't be a member.
Not look into this. Yeah.
Well, it's it's award season, you know, it's time it's time.
Every year, we got to start doing stuff like that.
Wait a minute website who's eligible to enter this category?
What do I need to enter? five examples of functioning cached
or active URL URLs that demonstrate the exceptional news
coverage and journalists the Dvorak uncensored, perfect.
About the show notes, we can send them
the show notes are stunning. We should do enter the shownotes
569 links to stuff nuts, not seeing that there's a fee here.
February 7 2014 to get it together, we can get it well let
me Oh, entry fees. Oh, how much website Oh, listen to this if
your radio station and your non member, or members Hi, but if
say your non member view radio has cost you $120 to enter. If
you're a TV, it costs you $200 to enter. So what do you think a
website should cost? $5 $245 It costs more than a television
station.
Oh, that's funny.
So the websites the most expensive they don't want
anybody that could possibly have a quality product entering this
competition. The Edward R. Murrow awards when you hear
about anyone winning them, it's another one of these things
where you got to pay to be eligible. And it's bull crap.
Anyway, and there you have it.
All right. I did some journalistic work. And I think I
came up with something that is a smoking gun. Like it was not
easy. By the way. There's a lot of work that went into this. And
here's the clip. We're just
learning that a judge has now ordered the release of 911 calls
from the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary. This just one day
after report revealed chilling new details, shooter and images
from that horrific day and larger concerns about mental
health in this country and whether it's in crisis, or Brian
Todd is working on this part of the story. Brian, what are you
finding out?
Well, Jim, experts have told me no doubt that mental health in
the US is in crisis. They say that crisis is manifesting
itself in rampage killings, other horrific incidents like
the Newtown shootings. A new report, which includes some
jarring photographs, addresses the mental health of shooter
Adam Lanza. The shot out windows of the entrance to Sandy Hook
Elementary School, the Bushmaster rifle used to kill 20
children and six adults. Newly released bone chilling images of
the crime scene in the Newtown shootings from Connecticut State
investigators black plastic bags taped over the windows of his
bedroom mirror the dark mind of shooter Adam Lanza. Just off his
computer room, there's a gun locker, a gun still perched
inside. The new report says Lanza did a spreadsheet on other
mass murders kept a newspaper clipping from an 1891 school
shooting.
Adam Lanza is sort Have a blackbox in which we see the
crash. But we don't really know what happened that led to the
crash.
The report says Lanza had significant mental health
issues, but the professionals who saw him did not see anything
that would have predicted his future behaviour. What may
happen is that if you cannot definitively say that that
patient is a danger to themselves, or others or
property, then you don't turn them over to the police. This is
a tale of two families and their struggles with mental health.
The lands now pay attention to this because this is where we
see the narrative morphing towards what it really is all
about, not about guns, but it's a war on crazy. And so they take
all of a sudden it's a story about two families completely
unrelated story, but it's all about health care, how you take
care of someone how you if they're crazy, what constitutes
is crazy and and be careful because you don't want to be
labelled as crazy family
whose efforts to get treatment for their son are unclear. And
the family of Virginia State Senator Cree deeds, their son
Austin was evaluated for mental illness, he was released from a
hospital a day before he repeatedly stabbed his father
and then killed himself released because according to the
Rockbridge, Area Community Services Board in Virginia,
there were no psychiatric beds available. CNN later learned at
least three hospitals in the state had beds.
Now this is a very disgusting way of reporting is really,
really not okay, what they're doing particularly in light of
all of this so called documentation that came out
regarding Adam Lanza, and in the sand, so called Sandy Hook
shooting. So there's two documents or two PDFs and I have
both of them in the show notes. And one is the final report,
which most people are referring to, and the other is the
compressed PDF, with all of the pictures the chilling pictures,
which consists of nothing. So first of all, you have to you
cannot open this compressed PDF unless you are using the Adobe
Reader project product. The Adobe Reader product is which I
did instal in order to open the archive is a piece of spying
crap, which I in the shownotes have also put to Section seven
have the terms of service which you have to agree to, to use the
product regarding connectivity and privacy, which you pretty
much don't have, because this thing talks back to home base
about what you're reading, how you're reading, it can pass
passwords, usernames, all kinds of all kinds of stuff. So it's
spyware. The pictures they have in this you the ones you've seen
on television is pretty much what it is. There's a picture of
a shot out a pane of glass at the front of the school, and
then they show examples of doorknobs they don't show the
actual doorknobs. It even says in the document, example of a
store a doorknob to a classroom, you know, classrooms aid, it's
not even the real picture. It's just an example. So there's
nothing there's not a single picture in there of anything
that shows that anything happened not even a picture of
blood, nothing, nothing nothing but what I found in the in the
notes of this final report, very interesting footnote 53
Regarding the Bushmaster, this is the read you what it says and
I'll read a footnote that's referred to and this is really
all I need to say and then you'll know what's going on
Bushmaster model XM one five dash e to a semi automatic
rifle, the Bushmaster rifle was found in classroom 10. The
Bushmaster was tested and found to be operable without
malfunction all of the 5.56 millimetre shell casings from
Sandy Hook Elementary School that were tested were found to
have been fired from this rifle. All of the bullets and fragments
recovered from SHGs and the OC me that were tested with the
exception of those mentioned immediately below are consistent
with having been fired from the Bushmaster rifle footnote 53
footnote 53 no positive identification could be made to
any of the bullet evidence submissions noted. To repeat
that, no positive identification could be made to any of the
bullet evidence submissions noted. In five point 56
millimetre calibre the physical condition of the bullet jacket
surfaces were severely damaged and corroded. They all lacked
individuals strike good marks of sufficient agreement for
identification purposes. The test fires also exhibited a lack
of individual strated marks on the bullet surface for
comparison purposes. This condition can be caused by
falling in the barrel, the rifle etc. So, just so you know, no
positive identification could be made to any of the bullet
evidence submission noted. That's funny, I didn't hear
anyone mentioned that. Other testing In the course of the
investigation, swabbing PSA test for DNA were taken from various
pieces of evidence in the case of the Sandy Hook Elementary
School and 36 Uganda, St. Yogananda Street. The purpose
was to determine if anyone else had actively been involved in
the planning or carrying shooting of the shootings. These
swabs were tested and compared to known samples. To have the ID
footnote, two of the items examined from outside the
building of Sandy hooks elementary school, one from the
shotgun in the shooters car. That's that we saw that in the
trunk, which was handled by the police officers, and a second
from 36 Yogananda street yield the DNA profiles consistent with
the DNA profiles of two of the victims killed inside Sandy Hook
Elementary School, one in each. It is strongly believed that
this resulted from an accidental transference as a result of the
unique circumstances of this case, there is no reason to
believe that either victim would ever have come in contact with
these items yet their DNA is on them. This stinks. We have DNA
evidence of victims on weapons found outside the school and we
have inconclusive ballistics on any of the bullets fired,
and they're all corroded for some reason.
This is so and there's tonnes of stuff in here that isn't
discussed. I mean, the things the items that I find
interesting that were found in atom lenses room are documents
about child abuse, how to live with child abuse this who knows
what man who knows what may have been going on at the school or
in this community and what this kid was really doing you know
there's a number was a Dunblane were the were the to have the
the Boomtown Rats song I don't like Mondays thing was Dunblane
where the now years later the story comes out that there was
child abuse going on at this school. And you know, the guy
went in he said he'd rather kill the children and put them out of
their misery than be abused by whatever pedo bear ring was, was
in this community. This is an angle that that I don't have
time for it. But it shouldn't it should be looked into. Well,
you know that you have to wonder why the school had that weird
locked down prison like quality? Because it had you know, a
locked door in the front. You couldn't just wander in like
normal schools, you can if you're a parent, you just go in
is that
is that to lock people out? Or to lock people in? You've always
got a question that,
well, there you go, it could be either way, probably both. And
then you tear the school down completely. Because where
they're gone is gone. What's it what was in there, were there.
If you're going to bring it go into the direction you're headed
here? Were there certain kinds of chains and things where they
hang the kids from your arms or with them? I mean, you could
have been a bunch of dungeons in there for all you know,
which is, you know, look at the Isle of Jersey, at the at the
hospice there. I mean, it's all this really happens people.
Yeah, it does happen. And then he had that odd situation where
the kids formed a ring in front of some guy's house and they
were just sitting there chanting or something and we don't even
know what that that was all about. And then there's the this
whole story I think, I think you hit the nail on the head. This
story stinks.
So another thing you can't do with the Compress report is you
can't do markups unless I guess you'd buy some other tool from
Adobe. So I made a couple snapshots everything by the way
is redacted. It's it's it's really useless as you would get
the word it's pretty used here this example classroom restroom
door lock exterior, but it's not the door lock. It's examples you
know, which is done at like Home Depot. Then the you know, where
is Ryan Lanza? Is he are he and Adam Lanza the same person?
There's, there's so many open questions, so many men, you
know, I think I've given a lot of markups in the in the
documents. But there's also, you know, the, as you pointed out
the tearing down of the school, and then there's the lawyer
Monty Frank. This is he's a lawyer for the Newtown victims
Association, I believe, none of these so called Foundations, I
can't find them. In GuideStar can't find their 5013 c status.
You know, it's all maybe they had never filed maybe, you know,
they'd be late for the 2012 filing by now, but okay, you
know, I just can't find it.
Yeah, I would be concerned about that. And I also understand
that, you know, there there are some efforts in the journalism
community to try to release the rest of the information in the
interest of public attention.
Yeah, because we're missing some vital points. We're missing the
police timeline. We're missing
that let you redact the timeline? Well, because
there's something to hide
to be brought to tell everything that happened. Do you see that
as being an effective tool? Is that something that the general
public really should know the full scope of the investigation?
Well, isn't this the most transparent administration in
history?
I don't think so. You know, there needs to be a balance
between first amendment rights, people's curiosity, and the
rights of the community isn't really all that important that
the details of what occurred at the school come out? Yeah. When
it's only going to serve to again, hinder the healing
process and the town caused people in the town to have to
block out media. You know, today, we had media trucks and
helicopters hovering in town, and that only serves as a
reminder of what occurred back in December.
Yeah, I think it's very important that we know exactly
what happened particularly if you listen to Dr. Drew. Now this
is not Dr. Drew on HLN. This is Dr. Drew on love lines, or I
think maybe the podcast I don't know, because he's dropping F
bombs and stuff. Dr. Drew is the spokes hole now for the war on
crazy. And he wants to I think he essentially wants HIPAA to be
amended or or struck down so that a doctor who feels that you
know, you may be a danger. For whatever reason, you know, that
you can just basically be committed by well by Dr. Drew
both that guy at Virginia Tech and the kid in Aurora, Colorado
and just about and the kid in Connecticut all had
psychiatrists worsening mental health, who couldn't fucking do
their job because their rights and privileges couldn't be
infringed upon. You understand? Yes,
you understand my views are oh, so this is interesting. Dr.
Drew's angry about people having rights. Alright, so
here's what happened. He was on a held hold psychotic, in a
hospital, released on a bunch of meds Prozac, one of them was
allowed to return to school was mandated to follow up, nobody
checked. So here's the deal. The school should be held
accountable, like hey, you have a chronic severe psychiatric
illness which impairs you and endangers your safety and the
communities in order to enrol this school we need weekly to be
able to see you're taking your meds or at least monthly sure
else you're not enrolled here just nothing cannot infringe on
those freedoms.
Nice so so we need the doctor Drew was saying that you know,
of course we have 20% of all the kids on drugs we have the school
has to check. The training facility will check to make sure
you took your meds which is exactly what they do in jail.
And he's complaining that people have rights that don't allow
this to happen. Well if you remember that's the fight I got
into a John fabro that gave me that panic attack back right. He
was talking to a guy like your brother he goes don't let
anybody tell you you should take meds I was like, whoa,
hold on. You're in danger. I can't allow you to say that we
got each other's face over and really Yeah, cuz it really got
me it's like you weren't you weren't endangering somebody's
life or the Who the fuck are you?
There it is. Dr. Drew wants to drug you make sure you're taking
the drugs and lock you up
well, there you go. There you have it.
This guy's a danger to society.
That guy's the guy should be locked up apparently. There's a
couple of interesting reports showed up on Democracy Now I
thought was interesting. Is of course this is like one of
those.
Watch that I can't watch it.
Right now. You can watch it but the clip I took I left in a
little bit of the music so you could listen to Amy back now.
She recommends. Where's Amy today?
So it'd be here. Here's what the thing is. This is like one of
these although some lawyers are crooked. Oh, milk goes bad if
you leave it out kind of stories. But it's still this is
corporate espionage part one.
pasca live I Spy This is Democracy.
Eyes. Bye. Great. She's really good at that. Just play that
again. That was good. I'm glad you did that. That's very nice.
Everybody is 100 with Amy Goodman asks
Kyle paska love I spy. This is Democracy Now. democracynow.org
The War and Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman, as we turned to
does that
well, too. This is Democracy democracy now.org The War and
Peace Report. Hey everybody, it's one.
I don't have it on the show. But I have a clip buffer a prattling
off the end at the end being really really late in it but
it's still having to announce some people's names. Yeah, she
is a world beater in terms of fast talker
she should do like a time and temperature check at this.
Everybody remarks not democracy dot democracy now.org War and
Peace Report 145 35 degrees here in Washington DC
now democracynow.org The War and Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman,
as we turned to a new report detailing how corporations are
increasingly spying on nonprofit groups that they regard as
potential threats. The reports called spooky business corporate
espionage against nonprofit organisations who was released
by the corporate watchdog group essential information. The
report found a diverse group of nonprofits have been targeted
with espionage including environmental anti war, public
interest, consumer safety, pesticide reform, gun control,
social justice, animal rights and arms control groups the
corporation's carrying out the spying include the US Chamber of
Commerce, Walmart, Monsanto, Bank of America, Dow Chemical,
Kraft, Coca Cola, Chevron, Burger King, McDonald's, Shell,
BP and others. According to that report, these corporations
employ former CIA, NSA and FBI agents to engage in private
surveillance work, which is often illegal in nature, but
rarely if ever prosecuted.
Oh, hold on a second. Hold on a second, Mr. Dvorak. I think
without a doubt clip,
not even close to being a good clip.
It's a great clip when he talks about it solidifies the theory
completely. That the NSA is just spying fall.
Yeah, they're right there on. Right, are Bedwell blackmail to
there was a heck some clip there was about blackmail. That was
What's this? What's this? Number two,
this is a long one. The number two is a guy this is the guy was
long because this this Hummer, who's more of an I mean, I'll
ring the bell a few times. But it's just like it's out of
control, is the guy who's partly responsible for doing the
report, I think is by lines on it. We weren't as long.
Or we go to California, where we're joined by their person or
the report's author, Gary Raskin. He's the director of the
Centre for corporate policy, a project of essential
information. Gary, welcome back to Democracy Now. Explain what
you found.
Thanks for having me on the show again, Amy. Yeah, we found a
tremendous diversity of corporate espionage being
conducted against a wide variety of civic groups across the
country in the UK, a case in Ecuador and in France as well.
So what we found was a tremendous variety of use of
different kinds of types of espionage tactics, from dumpster
diving, to hiring investigators to pose as journalists or
volunteers to electronic espionage information warfare,
Information Operations, hacking, electronic surveillance. And so
this appears to be a growing phenomenon, both here in the
United States and maybe in other parts of the world as well. But
our report is, is an effort to document something that it's
very hard to know very much about. We aggregated 30
different cases of corporate espionage, to try to talk about
them, but really each of the cases we have very fragmentary
information and so it's hard to say what how we have what we
have as a part of the iceberg whether it's the tip of the
iceberg or the tippy tip of the iceberg. We don't really know
sorry, let's go to 2000. We know that really,
Gary, You're boring
me peace files a federal lawsuit against Dow Chemical and SASL
North America for engaging in corporate espionage. The lawsuit
allege corporate spies stole 1000s of confidential documents
from Greenpeace including campaign plans, employee
records, phone records, donor and media less. Democracy Now
spoke to Charlie Cray, the senior researcher with
Greenpeace USA at the time he explained what happened.
TBI, the defunct private investigation firm hired
subcontractors including off duty police officers who went
through Greenpeace's trash to find useful documents on a
regular basis over two years. They did this almost twice a
week. On average. They also use subcontractors who had
colleagues who attempted to infiltrate Greenpeace as
volunteers they cased the Greenpeace office looking for we
don't know what but probably doing advanced scouting for
people who would then intrude upon the property. We found a
list of door codes we found a folder that said wiretap info,
which was empty. You know what's irritating again about this John
The Centre for corporate policy as to according to their
website, nonprofit, nonpartisan public interest. Org
monetisation nowhere to be found with their nonprofit
information. There's no Nam there's no for 990 information.
There's no nothing there's no entry. Yeah, that's annoying.
Well, you're sure that's not essential information.org And
there's just as you know, they would be under that. Well, then
essential information.org has been around way too long to not
have a 990
Oh, essential information. Well, then they're, they're being
sketchy at best. Well listen to more of this guy. And I'll look
this up. We know this company has subcontracted with a company
called Netsafe, which is a company that was made of former
NSA officials skilled and computer hacking and things like
that. So we really don't know the full extent of this. But
what we've seen is incredibly shocking. And our goal is to
bring this out into the light of day and to stop it if it's still
going on. Yeah, it
was Charlie Cray, senior researcher with Greenpeace, USA,
Gary Ruskin, if you could respond to that, and then go on
to talk about Walmart and up against the wall. The non
nonprofit organisation is good
enough, you can kill it. I'm getting tired of it.
Essentially, the way that apparently this is, you know, I
guess the NSA trains people in when they quit the NSA to go off
becomes country. This is all that's going on. It's
Moonlighting, it's like, like, hey, it's five o'clock. I'm
going home. What are you doing?
She's probably pretty cool moonlighting job. Yeah, come
back to the office and look stuff up. Yeah. But a lot of
police do.
Yeah, absolutely. It's, well, of course, we had the news come out
that the NSA apparently collected information on porn
site activity.
Oh, yeah. You go to a porn site. You're now in the yard. Now in
the box. Here's
what's interesting. The NSA is in this regard using what would
the term be using behavioural patterns to discredit them is no
different than what Glenn Greenwald does on a regular
basis to politicians that Republicans specifically he
attorney write a book even about how to face the Republican Party
is because the Republicans talk a big game, but they have gay
sex and man whores and all kinds of crazy shit. It's the same.
It's the same idea.
Yes, where there's an attraction. Right? But so for
him
to publish this as you know, like, Oh, look at it, you know,
it's like you do the same thing?
Yeah, no, that's the joke of it. The whole thing is a big farce.
And I'm getting really tired of the drips and drabs, you know,
the WikiLeaks is even getting in Greenwald's face a little bit
about how, if I see one more report that says Edward Snowden,
who released the documents in the wild to the world, I'm gonna
puke. And these are like big mainstream publications that
keep repeating this farce over and over again.
So the New York Times got a copy of this whole pile, just Sure.
Remember, when the Guardian was going to hit it, had the guys
come in and bust up the hard disks? Yep. They sent a copy of
The New York Times for safekeeping, which is what
dunkel Don should do, by the way, not to the New York Times.
And so, my friend Markoff was in New York when the thing was
still a secret. I think most people know it's there now. And
he was allowed to, apparently everybody would just like a line
of reporters that all wanted to look at this thing.
So the women this is the 50,000 or maybe 200,000. Yeah, really?
Yeah. Okay,
so he says one of the reasons this stuff may be leaking out
shortly, it's actually a huge document, a big giant database
with a really crappy search engine. Yeah. Which apparently
is the only thing you can use to access it because it's all this
you know, kind of like a
binary file or something that's like a big binary a bunch of
crap.
So it's just like all hash code shit. So yeah, he says It took
him about he was he got in he got his moment where he could
look something just do some fool around, look at the look at the
document. So then, of course, what did i What did you find
out? I must have had some cool stuff in there. He says it took
him six hours to find one thing that wasn't even interesting. He
says he could not find anything. The thing was, is a fiasco.
Interesting now do you think that this is what maybe that's
just what the times was given and that that there is
individual copies available on the in the Berlin cabal of mine
thinking, yeah, he didn't have a theory. But my thing would be
the following, which is that it's a you get the pile of crap
with a search engine. And then you are given a series of
specific codes to type in, which will take you to specific
documents that you can then ah,
well, that would make sense because there's so you'd have a
key. Yeah, there's no way that Glenn Greenwald would let the
New York Times have that or anybody, because that's how he's
going to become rich. That's how that's what his movie is going
to be based on his book. That's why the PIO Pierre Omidyar is
putting money into it because there's monetization.
Yeah, my thinking was a document that times had is the document
with the search engine but no code. So Reuters, which means
you get it back if the rest of them are destroyed, and you can
still find your stuff because you had the keys.
Reuters has this to say British, British and US intelligence
officials say they are worried about a quote doomsday cache of
highly classified heavily encrypted material they believe
former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden has
stored on a Data Cloud. The cache contains documents joined
by the NSA and other agencies includes names of US and allied
intelligence personnel. Seven current and former US officials
and other sources briefed on the matter said, Of course, no,
these days no have anyone no one talks publicly, there's it's
always sources, the data is protected with sophisticated
encryption and multiple passwords are needed to open it
say two of the sources who like the other spoke on condition of
anonymity, anonymity to discuss intelligence matters, the
passwords are in the possession of at least three different
people and are valid for only a brief time window each day. A
lot of information here for something that is, you know,
that no one can talk about?
Yeah, but it does give you some indication of the way it's, it's
established is it this is like, you have all this stuff, but
it's like, is this useless? I mean, it's a just generally
useless but you with your keys or codes I can get to the
specific places probably can make it useful. This is like,
you know, taking an encrypted hard disk and just taking the
data off as you can,
is useless. But you know, I don't like this I,
I really don't either. The whole thing is fishy. It's
well, it's not just fishy, it's wrong. There's information that
that is available, and as being kept. Because what I'm not smart
enough to read through a document, I beg to differ. I
think I am smart enough to dig to dig through something and
to know you can only look at slide 57 Yeah, you
know so Who died and made these guys God that they can only that
they're the only and why and by the way, why isn't the
government killing them? That's obvious. It's all one game.
They're all on the same team. If Glenn Greenwald really mean we
kill people for nothing. They we drunk people because they have a
signature of a terrorist. And we're not going to kill Glenn
Greenwald, who holds the secret to all of our national security,
please.
Yeah, no, it doesn't make any sense at all.
His book was great American hypocrites, by the way, toppling
the big myths of Republican politics, where he does the same
as what the NSA was doing purportedly was doing with the
terrorist. Yeah, yeah. So I would like to know if my porn is
being my porn habits are being tracked. Sure. And I'd like
that. Yeah. Okay. It's easy to say yes. But I don't want Glenn
Greenwald to appear on the door or anyone to be in charge of it.
And anyone who joins that organisation as a true
journalist should be ashamed of themselves. But you're all
whacking off in your circle jerk about how cool it is, and how
much money you're gonna make you sad money
from all mudhar sad and pathetic article and OMA jar which by the
way, which I read after the last show and put a link to it in the
last newsletters letter. Yeah, is great. Here's another one
because these guys Winston is by the way, they run that article
and Omidyar the next thing you know, that thing is shuttered.
You think that's
so but now they're a part of get this panto daily which is insane
because Pando daily to me is a big joke, but now they're
public, the same people published another article.
keeping secrets on a second, which is really quite damning.
Give you the title, it's the same guy from over to NSFW Corp.
Mark aims keeping secrets appear on me Dr. Glenn Greenwald and
the private privatisation of Snowdens leaks is a good
article. Definitely something and it kind of goes into you
know, how other whistleblowers have really let all the
documents out, you know, they really Daniel Ellsberg, you
know, the documents were available. And this is just not
the case. And everything that comes out is one page. It's
redacted. I mean come on. When will people see this for what it
is? Maybe never whatever will see it and whatever comes out
we'll continue to continue to bitch
and moan that apparently has to be an amaz show
bitch and moan everybody know but I like doing it I like I
like going through documents I mean no one on mainstream news
media will tell you that there's inconclusive evidence on the
Sandy Hook ballistics report completely inconclusive on all
ballistics.
Yeah, that's unbelievable that low so one another thing that
got my attention I want to get it out of the way is the Chinese
came out with it. You see or hear this story about the
Chinese extending their rights to defend their territory,
pastels. Stupid islands. Yeah, they
just they drew a line on Google Maps and said, yeah, don't cross
it. And then we flew across it.
Yeah, but we what cracks me up it really listen to this report.
I think this was on van cat. And this is we flew to be 50 twos. I
didn't even know we flow the fluids anymore. But we had a
couple of over the area we're supposed to check in. And I did
decided not to just to see what would happen. And there's a
little ironic twist of this.
This concerns to Beijing. The US Vice President will confront
Chinese leaders next week about their decision to expand the
country's air defence zone to include two disputed islands in
the East China Sea. The visit
to China creates an opportunity to convey our concerns directly
or to seek clarity regarding the Chinese intentions in making
this move. At this time,
the so called Senkaku Islands are controlled by Japan but are
also claimed by China and Taiwan. Under China's new rules,
aircraft have to provide a flight plan when passing through
the zone or face defensive measures. The US says it still
regards the area's international airspace, and as if to prove the
points. On Tuesday it flew to B 52 bombers into the zone without
alerting the Chinese and accuses Beijing of trying to provoke an
escalation and regional tensions. Okay, what's
your take cues is the Chinese of trying to provoke and we'd like
to be 50 two's over these islands.
To be fair, the flight was scheduled many many weeks ago.
So this is a pre scheduled flight. You don't think it would
have anything to do with the fact that we have the world's
largest aircraft carrier in the sea of China? I mean, come on,
we're being
done just saying who's provoking who
Yeah, we're we're being dicks. Apparently we got our aircraft
carrier they're helping the Filipinos. Oh, that fell off the
radar.
Yeah, well. And then finally, there's this thing going on to
you know, the Scots have do they're trying to separate
themselves by the way this is gonna fail.
But the thinking is, they have a referendum if they want to
separate from the United Kingdom. And if they do the
thinking, well, they want to be a separate country. Well,
company is right, because they have a lot of oil.
And they want it for themselves.
The Scottish Government's revealed its blueprint for
independence from the United Kingdom. Despite pledging to
forge its own prosperity the documents suggests keeping the
British pound and the Queen over a referendum to be held next
September.
Keeping the Queen you're gonna keep the Queen take that and the
British pound and take her to take her to Scotland. Canada.
They also kept the Queen
Yes, the Canadian still kept it. He goes over about once.
That's sounds like you. Oh Obama tone thing you've got September.
Symbolic stone marks the point where Scotland meets England,
but could it soon become the border between two separate
states. A new constitution would be written with the queen
captors, head of states also proposed a new Scottish defence
force of 15,000. The removal of Trident nuclear weapons
currently kept from the river Clyde and the new Scottish
Broadcasting Service in place of the BBC, causing the most
controversy currency. The document says Scotland would
keep the pound but London said this won't necessarily be
possible. UK Prime Minister David Cameron's firmly behind
the Better Together campaign against Scottish independence.
Its head MP Alistair Darling blasted the document as a work
of fiction.
It's a fantasy to say we can leave the UK but still keep all
the benefits of UK membership. Instead of a credible and costed
plan. We have a wish list of political promises.
According to latest polls, some 38% plan to vote yes, while 47
would vote no, but they still have 10 months to make up their
minds.
Well, it's not gonna I think you're right. It's gonna fail.
Yes. I'm gonna do that. You know, it can't just say
something Yeah, we're a little over time here.
Yeah, I think it's time to kill the show.
Let's kill some I gotta like shave and get dressed they're
gonna post produce everything.
Oh, you got a big dinner tonight that's I have to cook a big
dinner
it's actually starting now at two o'clock our time so I was
like thing is that sort of well I think they also there's a big
football game and they want to go to the game it's up against
something or other
oh yeah Dallas is playing Oakland or something like that.
Oh, it was playing Um, no,
no, no is up against whatever it is. We're for go UT.
There's a college game you're saying? Oh, I think so. Yeah.
That's weird on Thursday but it happens
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