I'm sitting here in the back of the class, I'm going to make a
meme. Adam curry. John C. Dvorak
is Thursday, September 12 2013. Time for your Gitmo nation media
assassination episode 547.
This is no agenda.
Acting exceptional as expected here in the traverse high tide
out in the capital, the drone Star State Austin Tejas in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
and from Northern Silicon Valley where I can see everything. I'm
John C. Dvorak. Buzzkill.
That's right, everybody, it is Thursday morning. 1107 here in
Austin, Texas, and 907 and get my nation West. And I give it
about five minutes until we start to being able to speak to
each other.
Yes. Possible. It seems we didn't hackers pinging
us now we could have done two shows yesterday, in during our
test our test moments. Yeah, we should have done two shows. And
if things start to break up, we're just gonna like, stop and
we're just going to continue tonight.
It could happen. Yeah, it could happen. So, yes, so So John, um,
I do have the, I do have the Clip of the Day. And you start
right off with Wait a minute,
whatever you want to spew all over me from the get go?
Well, you were not going to give it to me. So I might as well.
We've been noticing the two Obamas have a different way of
using H's.
Yes, we have the one Obama who can't pronounce it. And the
other Obama who really exaggerate it.
Yes, I have an example of the other Obama. And he's the one
who gave the speech they will you walk down the aisle and, you
know, pet past the vending machines and up to the podium
was shot in such a manner so that you actually looked like he
was wearing a crown, which was the chandelier in the
background?
Yeah, well, that's what he does to crown he has planned. So see
if you can spot the H gaff in the Obama clip,
and our ally, Israel can defend itself with overwhelming force,
as well as the unshakable support of the United States of
America.
Well, I had the same clip. I'll give it to you. And I'll take a
little bit of the corner if you don't mind. What is expected?
What is the support?
I don't know what the support is. can expect support. It was
the Shabbat Shalom support. Let me listen to that. Again. It was
I was really funny when I heard that our
ally Israel can defend itself with overwhelming force, as well
as the unshakable support of the United States of America.
When he says the word unshakable he also exaggerates the the age
a little bit, right.
So because this is the the warmongering Obama, yeah, that's
which one we have here. Just so you can hear. here's the here's
the other robots while
I didn't set a red line, the world said a red line. The world
said a red line when governments representing 98% of the world's
population said the use of chemical weapons are abhorrent
and passed a treaty.
And you know, people are sending in and no, he meant to say
aberrant like, no. No, he didn't mean to say aberrant. He meant
to say abhorrent. Yeah, he meant to say of horrors, no doubt
about I had. I'm glad we played it right now, because I had
several people said you would have crap, but it's the same
guy, by the way.
Well, yeah, that one guy. I don't know why he keeps even
let's
grab these at Abrons. Now. Now, he pretty much want to say
abhorrent. And just yeah, by
the way, the word aberrant doesn't fit into the structure
of that sentence. No, it fits in
a description, but not in the structure of the sentence. I
agree. Yeah. Well, there's
a couple of things when it comes to the I mean, you want to you
want to talk about where we're at with the with all of this,
which was kind of an exciting turn of events, although, I
think I recall the discussion on the show saying, Don't worry,
no, World War Three, stay calm. Nothing's going to happen. Did
we not say exactly that?
Yeah, I think so. I think we've said we're obviously gonna make
a pool of bet on it. But I think we both agreed nothing was gonna
happen, right. There was a guy I want to my view of the thing now
with this crazy event that took place, and I want to reiterate
something I said, probably six months ago or longer, I when we
were very concerned about the intelligence community's
infiltration of the media. I had proposed because you had
completely you were on board with the ABC being part of the
Obama administration.
This by the way, the concern is not relinquished or has not gone
away. I mean, that is a fact. Yes, complete
what We were talking about it more we don't talk about it as
much. Fact so I was always seeing CBS the CIA broadcasting
system. As, as really the key to this more than ABC, even though
I think ABC was a good propaganda tool for the for the
White House and NBC of course for a while until until computer
town bottom was cable 10. Cable Tom got down because I
think it's computer world.
Computer World bought them Friday, and now there is GE is
kind of out of the picture. But I think he's still a board
member, whatever the case is always CBS. So when this this
little crazy episode came up, I reevaluated the whole carry
making the suggestion that we should go you know, which they
should give him a giveaway their chemical weapons, and then we'd
be good to go. There's two, there were two distinct
narratives that had contradicted each other at some point, and
they had to be it had to be resolved somehow, before CBS
sent Charlie Rose somehow it is Syria. And
I just want to say because I have clips from that, obviously,
because you saw almost nothing of that on the mainstream
because Assad was so good. Did you see the whole interview? No,
I
didn't. I didn't watch the whole No, no.
And of course you haven't seen any of it. But I Why didn't you
know if this guy is so horrible? Why didn't they give Charlie
Rose like a poisonous rose or poisonous? pinprick?
Yeah, or Yeah.
Hey, would you like this coffee? Bashar? Look, I'm sipping it
over here. I mean, come on. This is this is it was crazy to see
Charlie Rose sitting there with the horrible dictator who
slaughters his own people. I got a mindfuck. From that.
Well, I here's what I got out of it. CBS is so embedded that it's
unbelievable. First of all, they here's the here's one of the
reports. I have, let's say he played the the this is a little
bit of Charlie Rose and Scott Pelley introducing some woman,
it's correspondent who's in Syria, in Damascus. And I'm
thinking well just play this. And I'll tell you what I'm
thinking. It's not only theater, because it
will start to do anything to prevent the region provision
another crazy war. Yes.
That interview was Sunday, Assad at that moment, as you saw would
not confirm or deny the existence of chemical weapons.
But in the last 24 hours, Syria has confirmed that it has
chemical weapons, and it has pledged to put them under
international control. We got more detail on that today from
Damascus, with the Syrian Foreign Minister who made a
speech on television, or Elizabeth Palmer is in Damascus
tonight and she was there to listen to the speech. Liz, what
were some of the details Well, Mr. Mullen was pretty categoric.
Okay,
you need to stop, stop just, I just want to point out all we've
been hearing about is how hard it is to get in there to do any
reporting and there'll be can do this, nobody can do that. You
can't get into Damascus, they won't let the media and they
don't trust American media in particular. Now we have CBS. And
then we if we listen to this report, where we get where PBS
interviews rose about how they how they got in and the whole
thing. And if you listen to the subtext, all you hear is
intelligence agency of some sort, but you just listened to
way rose wrote say things while saying I'm sorry, what am I
playing here? This is the PBS interviews rose as news.
Oh, I'm sorry. I couldn't find it there. Okay.
gratulations Charlie, this was an interview. every news
organization was difficult was asked to arrange a
very difficult journey but is in the end what happened is that I
basically said to them look, for my program, we will do an
unedited interview for 53 minutes on our same thing I did
with a president united states
Well, I gotta stop right there. I found this very hard to
believe the the total running length of the the interview was
57 minutes and about 15 seconds. And there were so many
opportunities for this thing to be edited. I am skeptical,
skeptical that this is the the entire interview. And it's you
know, and they had multiple cameras. So I think it's very
easy for them to cut in and out of it. So I'm not buying that
this was 53 minutes, whatever.
Doesn't make any difference whether it did or not. They got
the interview. Yes. And that was acceptable. The update had some
experience in was they felt like an interview had been sort of
manipulated. And so without getting into that I said, I'll
give you an unedited interview with the President says we'll be
on the program. And they agreed to that and then we had the deal
to make to come to Damascus and do the interview. I only got
literally the day before I left. So it was not easy. Lots of
conversations took place. And if we went there, I took good Jeff
Fager, the chairman of CBS News and my friend and my executive
producer at 60 minutes with me, call CBS provide a lot of help.
For me.
There's Dennis Rodman there as well, can I think he easily
could have been on board for this little
the so they did a lot of meetings. And it was Who are
these guy? This guy? This guy who's the head of CBS News, who
I think is the guy to be looking at, right? What's his name? He
also the producer of 60 minutes is also his buddy who put him on
the 60 minute show, for whatever reason, right? And he's the guy
who also got him over to Syria. There's a lot of people in the
news media, I can assure you in broadcast you you would you
would agree with this, that are very annoyed by this. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Charlie Rose. And he's got all these, you know, these
interviews that have been dead or high profile. They're not
just soft ballers. We want you to send Larry King over.
Why didn't they send Diane Sawyer?
I totally Hey, well, she's on ABC. That's one reason.
There's other people that CBSE could have brought, but it's
obviously a CBS. This is a CBS script. Yeah. And the and I'm
now more than ever convinced that CBS is really the point man
for the intelligence community.
It makes sense because they are not squarely in the in the Oh,
camp. Like ABC. No, not at all. They they are the ones that
cracked open member Fast and Furious. It was a CBS report
that first really started to lay stuff down. Yeah. Interesting.
Okay. Yeah, that could totally be their mission.
So, anymore in that clip,
there's like four minutes left was too
much to do. I was gonna cut it. There's a point where there's a
natural cut, I just decided,
let me let me play a few choice clips. I have four here from
goodbye, love. I have four clips from the actual interview. And
if you look at the interview, that has been the pieces that
have been played on, I think primarily, CBS, I don't know if
they've released it to other well, PBS, of course, as well. I
know they've released to other networks, at this point is kind
of you know, how could you not let them play it? But I thought
Assad was really really good he. I mean, the guy seriously, if
either one of us drops dead bring him in.
You know, the funny thing about that, I just can't deal with
that list. And he's obviously he's taught English by a
Castilian Spaniard.
And the thing is, he's a dentist.
You should get that fixed. I didn't know.
Yeah. So and it was his birthday. Yesterday, although
the interview, of course was done.
No way. Wait, it was Assad's birthday yesterday? What date
was that he was going to
be? Oh, I don't know if 911. September 11. This is his
birthday. Yeah. Wow. All right. So the a couple of bits here
that I thought were really funny. And he's essentially just
just throwing everything back in Charlie Rose's face. And, and I
will say rose actually believes everything he's saying, which is
a little creepy, when you hear some of the questions, but this
is where Assad just got into Charlie Rose's face in a very
funny way
transparent. If he does, if he does, if he presents that
evidence, this is what you can discuss the evidence, but he
doesn't have he didn't present it because he doesn't have care.
He doesn't have no one in your organization. If they had it,
they would have presented it to you as media for the
day. They have presented to the Congress, nothing. Congress what
they have and the evidence they have from satellites,
intercepted messages and the like
nothing, isn't it? Nothing has been presented so far. They have
presented to Congress or your your reporter get to get the
evidence has been showing to the public.
I love this. Like, of course, we have not seen any of the secret
evidence that has been shown only to Congress because you
know, secretly, yes, yes. As citizens, you know, obviously,
why
is it such a big secret?
Well, Bashar was calling him out. He's like, there's no
evidence even presented. Hey, you're a reporter. Go get it and
show it to your people and roses like they're presented when
they're presenting it to the public representative. You don't
show your evidence and what you're doing and your your plans
to have people that within your own Council, they're showing it
to the people's representative. So you have to vote on an
authorization to strike and if they don't find the evidence
sufficient.
So that's the folder we have for the President and precedent of
Colin Powell 10 years ago when he
turned out now he's he's doing a very smart things. And look,
Colin Powell held up does that mean they had all the secret
evidence they had the satellite photos they showed it then why
not? This
showed the evidence. It was false, and it was forged. This
is first second. You want me to believe American evidence and
don't believe the indication that We have We live here, this
is our
locations are that what? Sorry, what your indications are that
was
that the rebel or the terrorist used the chemical weapons in
northern of Aleppo five months ago.
Alright, so then he goes into his kind of standard spiel. And
of course, Assad's problem, although here is a guy who is
speaking English, you know, it's it is absolutely understandable
the list and the projection is a huge issue. It doesn't come
across as very forceful. But the things that he says if you
listen through the list, this is another one where it's just you
know, in your face. Now, his stance is that these are
terrorists from outside the country who are fighting against
his regime. And we know that we know that at least the United
States has been helping them with non lethal aid. Although
today Reuters reports that we are not supplying them with
small arms.
We had a clip of almost a month ago of somebody kind of
accidentally admitting that we're supplying lethal aid,
right, which we named the show lethal a
lethal aid exactly less than a month ago, I think, maybe three
weeks ago. So here's here's Assad, on why this war is
lasting so long, and for their terrorism, and for their
killing, and beheading, and so on.
Why is this war lasted two and a half years,
because of the external interference, because there's no
external agenda, supported by or let's say, led by the United
States, the West, the petro dollar countries, mainly Saudi
Arabia, and before was copper, and Turkey. That's why it lasted
two years and a half. So the
guy is basically saying, hey, you know, the reason why it's
taking so long as you keep financing these eight holes,
that's why we were trying to beat them down, but you keep
financing them. And then of course, rows, and this is this
was really interesting, where he cannot get it past his mind that
this army of Assad is run by him. You know, they are the
loyalists, they'll do anything they like and not see storm on
fewer troopers that just going to go kid we are killing. And
Assad calls him out on it again, but
a human also plan on which is not the case for you have a
powerful army. The army made all the people cannot be made of
robots. It's made official, surely
you're suggesting that
the army is not made of robots, Charlie, they're made of people.
Yeah, I can't force them to do everything that people at the
end of the day they're not robots army
is not at your will and the will of your family.
How can you What do you mean by the widow, the family? The will
of your family? If
the brother is in the military, the military has been at every
observer of Syria, believe that this is a country controlled by
your family and controlled by the Allah whites who are your
allies? That's the control.
If that situation is correct, what you were mentioning, we
wouldn't have with the 1040 years and a half, we would have
disintegration of the army. This integration of the whole
institution in the states would have disintegration of Syria. Is
that the case?
And I think he's making a valid point here. You know, there's
even just look on the social medias, as they'd say, in
Washington, about our own armed forces and their armed forces,
you know, saying publicly, like, we're not going to do this, we
are going to revolt against going into Syria or doing even
doing X, Y or Z. I mean, at a certain point, you can only push
your own people so far. I think it's a valid point that he's
making, but it's very hard for people who have been
indoctrinated. And Charlie Rose is certainly one of them to even
consider the fact that maybe, you know, the army wouldn't want
to do that. Well.
This is exactly why Rose was picked.
Yes. Because he's he is well thought he is
the robot and he he reflects. I think it's a top down
reflection. I think it starts at Obama. But Carrie and I have a
clip here, the regime clip, Kerry has a doesn't quite get it
himself. And so when he tries to even express what I think roses
is expressing in the question, you end up with this crazy, I
think the John Kerry flub of the day, which is which is him
responding to a question with this crazy answer,
under any circumstances, the Assad regime is the Assad regime
and the regime issues orders and we have high level for regime
that have been caught giving these instructions and engaging
in these preparations with results going directly to
President Assad. And we're aware of that. So we have no issue
about the question here of responsibility. There is not the
Assad regime as the Assad regime. Wow.
It's just Do you hear those little fluffy made? Yeah. So we
have no question of responsibility. There is not but
what he meant was, of course, there's no question what he
meant. When he says there isn't. What he meant was there is no
question. Yeah, but but the way it was put together, that
structure was there is no responsibility because
the human body and mind don't want to be untruthful. He can't
help himself. I just have one more clip of this Rose
interview, and and then I'll, I'll be done with it. But again,
this is not something unless you watch the PBS interview, which I
think I saw 330 700 views online. I don't know what their
TV ratings are, but it's not high. Then it was not propagated
this because it was it was a pretty good rebuttal. You don't
want
we're in our sixth look. We're in a situation. A situation
where we have to be lockstep. Ozobots. Yeah. Oh, talking about
that sort of thing. And we can't be distracted by some guy who
might be sympathetic.
Exactly. Alright, here's the here's the the war of words,
between the term opposition and terrorism, and Bashar Al Assad
knows quite a bit about what's going on in the US and the UK
and France yet allow
the idea that there is opposition to your government
from within Syria, that is not possible for you to imagine,
to imagine that we have opposition? Yes, we have it and
you can go and meet with them. We have some of them within the
government. We have some of them outside the government. They are
opposition. We have it.
But those are the people have been fighting against you.
Opposition is different from terrorism. Opposition is a
political movement. Opposition doesn't mean to take armament
and kill people and destroy everything. Do you call the
people in Los Angeles in the 90s? Do you call them rebels? Or
opposition? What would the British called the rebels less
than two years ago in London? Do they did they call them
opposition or rebels? Why should we call them opposition? They
are rebels. They are not able to defend their hotels they are
behaving is opposition opposing country or government by
behaving by barbecuing head by eating the hearts of your victim
did that opposition? What do you call the people who attacked the
2011 to September? Opposition, even though they're not
American? I know that that's all they have, I think national
nationality? I think one of them has the American nationality.
Is that true that one of the the hijackers have the American
nationality that missed something.
There was that one guy who wasn't on any of the planes that
lived in Minnesota or something where they dragged him into
court and down the slammer?
Nobody but what he's saying is so right. He's saying, hey, you
know, if you're going to drone some some American in the
desert, and you call them a terrorist, you don't call him
the opposition, even though he hasn't even done anything. I
mean, come on. This is this is actual sensical talk.
Yes. As opposed to care to carry in rose.
Did you read Vladimir Putin's op ed in the New York Times today?
No, I'll bring it up. Oh, okay. I have it here. There's a couple
of key so he responds to the entire New York
Times, by the way, is somehow like, Nigeria's No, another
little tidbit? We're pretty convinced that the New York
Times has always been very closely associated with the CIA.
Yes. And they've been running some some kind of anti
administration material, including that front page shot
of the Syrian rebels execution shot execution shot of these
shooting these helpless soldiers. Yeah. I think
something's up here.
So here is it's called a plea for caution from Russia, and it
says by Vladimir V. Putin. Oh, by the way, if I could trade I
think I would like him to I mean, he's a douche doesn't you
know, he might be good as an American president. Maybe we
could do a celebrity present president swap or something.
Just take him for a while.
Well, it's I'm not I'm not buying into this one.
I liked the whole you know, the sub
PCs have a president was actually you know, a good
American.
Well placed now this is why we can have Putin what difference
does it make? So he, it's a it's kind of what you would expect.
Just a couple of choice pieces from this. Op Ed is written by
Hill and Knowlton are one of the boys yes, no matter how targeted
the strikes are, how sophisticated the weapons
civilian casualties are inevitable, including the
elderly and the children from whom the strikes are meant to
protect us. Uh, you know, so he hits on all the all the points,
but then he says, I studied. He actually says he's, you know,
his, his his working with President Obama is in you know,
it's getting better we're we're cooperating, but that he
listened very closely to the President's speech. And I heard
this piece too. And I also want to like, Huh, you know, I've
heard of our special relationship and, and different
types of terms that we use to describe America. But the
President said, this.
Franklin Roosevelt once said, our national determination to
keep free of Foreign Wars, and foreign entanglements cannot
prevent us from feeling deep concern when ideals and
principles that we have cherished are challenged. Our
ideals, and principals, as well as our national security are at
stake in Syria, along with our leadership of a world where we
seek to ensure that the worst weapons will never be used.
America is not the world's policemen. Terrible things
happen across the globe. And it is beyond our means to write
every wrong. But when, with modest effort and risk, we can
stop children from being gassed to death, and thereby make our
own children safer over the long run. I believe we should act.
That's what makes America different. That's what makes us
exceptional. With humility, but with resolve, let us never lose
sight of that essential truth. Thank you, God bless you. And
God bless the United States of America.
And here's what President Putin says. He says my working in
personal relationship with President Obama is marked by
growing trust. And I appreciate this. I carefully studied his
address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather
disagree with the case he made on American exceptionalism,
stating that the United States policy is quote, what makes
America different. It's what makes us exceptional, unquote.
It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see
themselves as exceptional wherever the motivation. There
are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those
with long democratic traditions and those still find their way
to democracy. Their policies differ too. We are all
different. But when we ask for the Lord's blessings, we must
not forget that God created us all equal. I mean, this is good.
This is good stuff. And I agree.
I think it's good stuff or whatever. Let us point out a
couple of things here.
But first of all, I also feel when you say we are exceptional.
Let's I think the President positioned us above the rest of
the world with that. And that's extremely arrogant.
Well, this is absolutely nothing new. So I don't think that's
important one way or the other.
What do you mean, and I think it's nothing new.
We talk about American exceptionalism. All the
presidents do and they do it commonly. And they've been doing
it in all of history since Monroe. Well, they're all
assholes, then. Well, Monroe is actually is an asshole. There's
some in between that are probably okay. But there's a
couple of things here that are weird is one is that he's
talking about democratic traditions. And then he's, I
guess he's bringing Russia a communist state into that run by
a dictator him into that into that fold? Of course he is. That
was a pretty well, this to me. It doesn't he does not have any
of Putin's voice that I can
tell. No, but it's it's the this is written by
somebody out in New York.
Yeah, it's the Mirage. That is Putin. But that's good. I mean,
we know the only thing that guy can do is fish and hunt.
That's absolutely sure was the point of this. It is.
Well, I think it's just more of the same tactics we've been
seeing. The Fu Fu isn't the fact that the New York Times is
publishing it? I think is remarkable. As an op ed.
I think the double lining here that's the funny line. My
working in personal relationship with President Obama is marked
by growing trust. I appreciate this.
That's where he puts himself 10 feet above Obama by saying that
I have nothing but respect for this. The psychological way of
warfare that is going on it is very good.
Yeah, it could have been better.
Well, if they had they'd call the curry Devorah Consulting
Group, perhaps? Yeah, I
think we could have beefed it up a little more attention much
better in that case. That's pretty bland. Of course a PR
lady who did this. It's bland if you could get Curry's attention
and and do you have a on the web? On the web version of this?
I don't have the printed New York Times It says there's a
graphic of a hand
that yeah, the red hand. Okay, it's
black and white on mine is the red hand
black and white on the web too.
But whose red hand is it?
So some art this is a spot art that somebody put their you
know, the red hand behind carry, I have no idea might not be a
redhead. It could be a black cat, which is which is what it
is. I don't think it's significant. I think it's just
so spot art.
They're just like, hey, let's just break this op ed up and put
a hand in there. That's
like to put a little piece of art there. Yeah. But I think
it's funny as they have enlarged this image next to it. Like who
cares? Oh, now it's bigger.
It's a big hand.
Oh, wait a minute. You missed it. The hands got a missile. I
see it. You're right, a missile streaking across that I see it
now. Interesting. And all these things. These things are subtle.
But in this type of psychological warfare, I think
they matter.
What's the point of the missile? There's probably these these
fingers in the shadows on the fingers, probably somebody's
head to the one on the far right looks like Brezhnev. And then
the one in the long finger. The middle finger looks like, like a
guy's eyeball. And there's a mouth underneath there. And he's
staring at you. And I we
should we should we should analyze this. Someone else
should analyze this for us. We're no good at this. But I
think you may be the one on
the far left. It looks like a knight or a knave facing looking
to the left to the left. Yeah, it's got a little hat on. Don't
you think? Like he's got armor on and he's standing on a ball.
He does look like a chess piece. Look at now, if you look at the
the middle finger, doesn't it look a bit like it's half of
Obama's profile?
So half of his face? I think with an eyeball looking at you
couldn't? I don't see the Obama in there? Well,
I'm looking at the small version.
Oh, maybe if you know the at the very top of you just go that top
digital. It looks like it could be an Obama head. Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, yeah, just as artists is now.
Wow. Okay. And the funny thing, of course, is, you know, this
whole back and forth between and now. Now, if it isn't obvious to
everybody, you know, now you can see that this is America,
against Russia. And we of course have known that this has been
the Syria has been a proxy for this issue ongoing throughout
the duration of of what has been happening in Syria. So now it's
kind of out in the open, although I doubt anyone really
recognizes it. I may people may be so tired of it. They don't
care anymore. But it's kind of funny that this is exactly what
the President chided candidate Romney over during the the elect
the elections during the debates, Governor
Romney, I'm glad that you recognize that al Qaeda is the
threat because a few months ago, when you were asked what's the
biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said Russia,
that al Qaeda, you said Russia, in the 1980s are now calling to
ask for their foreign policy back.
Remember that quip?
Yep, there you go. Yeah. Now here we have it. So Romney was
ahead of the game.
Yeah. Not that I want Romney as President, I still would choose
Putin over Romney.
So just that I use the word so I would like to play it because
back to my thesis that CBS is is the is the player here. And is
this news director guy who's buddies with Charlie Rose. I, I
noticed I have two packages I could play I'm just want to play
the one, which is this is the seat that CBS besides dominating
the conversation with by sending rows over there and didn't have
all these people over there somehow. They also sent a
package out to the affiliates. And it was it was a CBS package
you could tell it was well, Deus and they got and as long I don't
I didn't clip the whole thing by clipped a bunch of it. And it it
to me really is this is the this would be this package the sent
out to all the neural networks, network affiliates, this would
be the Litany this would be the because this is what you're
going to send out this the public generally is going to end
up with then. So this is the overall thesis that you're going
to get from the not necessarily the administration but whoever
this CBS people represent. But this is the CBS gas package
Boyd military action with a single off the cuff remark. Is
there anything at this point that his government could do or
offer that would stop an attack?
Sure, he can turn over every single bit of this chemical
weapons to the international community in the next week.
Turn it over, and then to everyone's surprise, serious
said okay, it will. After that President Obama told CBS Evening
News Anchor Scott Pelley
it is a potentially positive development. I don't think that
we would have gotten to the point where they even put
something out there publicly had it not been. And if it doesn't
continue to be a credible military threat from the United
States,
Syrian President Bashar Assad told CBS This Morning co host,
Charlie Rose, that if the US attacks, there could be
retaliation could expect
everything, not necessarily through the government and you
have different policies, you have different factions.
President Obama says he doesn't take that as a credible threat,
because Syria simply doesn't have the capacity to carry out a
significant attack.
Some of his allies like Iran and Hezbollah, do have the capacity
to engage in asymmetrical strikes against us. Our
intelligence, I think, is very clear that they would not try to
escalate the war with us.
President Obama will address the nation tomorrow evening at six
to lay out his case from
Okay, a couple things. One, of course, it almost seems like a
script when you know that Kerry was already scheduled to go to
Geneva for the to, you know, to work on the document. We knew
that before the the Putin Assad announcement. So it almost feels
like he was like, Okay, this is it. Here's the cue for the next
move. Guys. You know what he could do?
Yeah, no, this obvious that was a planet question. Also, Rose
was leaving the next day? Or actually, Rose was there on
Sunday? He had to have he had to have that question in hand. Yes.
So so they had the book, they had to blow it out. We know the
Russians came up with the idea. And here's the here's the thing
that became interesting. This is the PBS this is part of the PBS
package, which they did themselves. They didn't get it
from CBS. And you got this. You there's two clips here I want to
play. One is played this well wishes. And you never heard this
from anywhere else. PBS Part Three a mess.
But hours later, a surprising clarification. A senior official
traveling with Kerry said the Secretary's remarks had been
rhetorical and not intended as a serious proposal.
You never heard that right. Oh,
no, I didn't know that. This is from the gaggle they do on the
plane.
So that was interesting. And then the more interesting thing
was, and we still don't know whose side she's on. But somehow
Hillary jumps into the conversation,
former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke at a White
House event, you're all she endorsed military action against
Syria, and said,
if the regime immediately surrendered its stockpiles to
international control, as was suggested by Secretary Kerry,
and the Russians, that would be an important step. But this
cannot be another excuse for delay for obstruction. And
Russia has to support the international community's
efforts sincerely or be held to account.
Now the way she does this, she says that Carrie suggested and
then she has a long pause, and she's got a mean, look on her
face. Yeah, seriously. She says, and the Russians, yeah. Because
I think she was annoyed. Because I don't think she's part of the
script. Or that narrative. She was on the margin. Yeah, she's
on the margin. And she's been left out and she knew the
Russians came up with this idea, because you we suggest you
actually noticed it. That was it kind of stemmed from the
meetings in the G 20. And so Carrie had to blow it out so he
could get make sure Charlie Rose, who's on is part of the
narrative that you get, it could ask that question when it gets
over there. And meanwhile, the Russians gets kind of pushed
aside as the as the ideal as the guys who came up with this idea.
And so she makes a point of it, of bringing it up, because look
on her face was like, just doing everything but shaking her head.
Now, I think that there's some brilliance in here, as I believe
it will be the Russians who will most likely take whatever out
and take them to whatever safe place or drop in the ocean or
whatever, whatever we're going to agree to but if you look
back, and I'm always interested in the maritime aspect, you
know, I've been following all the ships and the we we've had
Russian subs in the Mediterranean for weeks now. And
on September 6, we have a report here a Russian warship, the
Nikolai Phil Chen cough has showed up at the port their
TARDIS with a quote unquote special cargo and I'm thinking
it was kind of hard for these guys to unload their special
cargo which I'm only going to presume as these s 400 missile
launchers are some some fantastic gear that that Russia
is installing and you know that assault To solve the Syria, but
now they have perfect cover, you know, we can oh, we're gonna
unload this and then we got to make some space for the chemical
weapons and what's the oh we just moved this stuff over into
the warehouse, I think is perfect I mean in the the
fallacy of all of this is for waiting for months what years
human hearing you know about all 100,000 people by the way the
calculation of the 100,000 people is is sketchy at best you
know, and the red line is the chemical weapons and now it's
like now now apparently the guy isn't killing anyone anymore
that's just ended and no one is even asking anything about this
isn't all it's all it's okay in the chemical weapons, it'll be
over and then we'll just it'll all just kind of fizzle out. And
we'll take a couple of weeks and even the calculation of the dead
from this so called sarin gas attack is funny. Here's
professor at Tufts University, who did what I did several
months ago when I looked into numbers 92,000 People now it's
120. You know, it's hundreds of 1000s just people just throwing
numbers around like it's like it's co2 in the atmosphere.
Here's the Tufts University professor tells us how the 1400
number was reached, Americans
acknowledge that they're not only relying on hospital sources
and morgue reports, but also even more than some of the
others on activist testimony on social media and on unidentified
intelligence sources we aren't privy to, as well as there's
more discussion of a reliance on mathematical models. And in part
so far as we can tell some of the numbers that are coming out
are based on numbers of rockets fired wind patterns, dispersal.
Are you kidding me?
That 429 426 of them are children. And this is based on
mathematical models using rockets fired and wind patterns,
patterns
and other sets of expectations. The French, as I understand it,
are relying on casualty counts, and there are only counting
people where they can identify a first and last name. That said
they have also intimated that there are mathematical models
with this as soon as people become climate change with
mathematical models, do you suggest
that casualty numbers might be as high as about 1500? More or
less consistent with the US claim? The British had been
rather tight lipped. But so far as I can tell, the British are
essentially our tiny little that they're only using numbers of
people that they can actually identify as
casualties. So when we just get this right, we're using social
media. We're using bloggers, Syrian Danny, I guess is one of
our sources, confidential, high security things that we can't
know. And then seriously, seriously, we're using number of
rockets fired and wind pattern to determine to come up with his
number. And the in the media in general, except for a few
reports. Just just take it and just say, oh, yeah, it's
14 129 1426 children. We've seen no women. The President in his
speech, again, talked about the rows and rows and rows. That's
the picture from Iraq. Mr. President, that's not the
picture from from Syria. So so all of this, this whole thing is
one big coordinated psyops. And the more you just keep repeating
it repeat who was it was a Goebbels that said that the more
you repeat the lie, the more becomes
known fact you can just keep repeating the lie.
Do you mean something like this? That's not That's the truth.
That's the truth. But it's true. Well,
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And you know obviously they're like, they check my my sperm
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Terry Morgan in far Hills, New Jersey $233 Well wish I made a
donation for some travel karma before we left for Croatia. Oh,
my husband got food poisoning was all it was probably on the
plane. Yeah, because all the effects don't eat fruit on the
plane Porsche ran out here.
There's no hitting the night before they had to fly out fly
home. So it was it was incredible. It was in Croatia.
If you have you ever been sick and you had to go fly?
I have rules about this.
I do. You do not eat or dive.
There's certain things I will not do the night before a flight
especially coming back. One of them is I won't have sushi or
any fish whatsoever. Or I make the
board bisque. I firmly believe you should never have bisque.
bisque. Yeah, bisque. Well, I make a rule not to have bisque
in general. Yeah, lobster bisque is always Yeah, no, I wouldn't
have any of those. No don't no seafood. What is this? What is
in the bisque? bisque is essentially just a soup. I think
I'm generally I think is a cream soup as of meat based
food poisoning soup. Kobe. I always got to be careful. I had
the lobster biscuit was so sick.
We had a situation here's a good story. Oh boy. So we're in one
tent. We made a mistake. I made this mistake of having sushi at
a very high end sushi place where they were trying to make
you sick. You know?
They try to make the thing it's funny. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jelly fish
roll, please. Okay, so I got kind of sick on a the night
before I had to take a flight to Dallas. And I was like nausea.
So I bought some of these crazy little creosote pills that they
sell for the Japanese good for your stomach get just kills.
Just just stomach goes. Okay, a guy kills everything in the
stomach. It's great stuff, but you can't use them too often.
But I had him on the plane. I forgot. I gotta take two more of
these pills. And so I Oh, the thing is when you open the jar
of pills to play now smells like it's on fire. Really? Yeah, it's
stinks. And so the open the jar, people who know about these
little black pills know what I'm talking about. And so I pulled
the thing out and I take the two pills. And then all of a sudden,
there's a bunch of stewardesses scrambling all over the place.
Now.
We're on fire. We gotta check the window.
On another fire. We're coming back. And Eric apparently was a
little younger, and he got sick as a dog and he's puking all
over the place on this flight back. And it was weird. Mimi was
really irked about this.
That's when that's when the child becomes your wife's child.
Yeah, I was. Honey, your son is puking everywhere.
So he's puking into this bag. And why is that? He's in the
middle of nobody's gonna change.
Dude, Here, take my aisle seat.
They wouldn't do it. So he's got to keep getting up as people as
puke is dripping all over the place. And he's getting his
barfing into a bag. He's barfing. I think he had a cup
filled a couple bags. And so and he puts the bags down on the
floor. No, it's kind of a rough landing. And so the bags as we
got up, the bags were missing. Were leaving the flight. So we
just snuck off the plane. Oh, that's disgusting, John. It was
a good story.
Hey, by the way, regarding the sushi, I met in Marfa. We were
in Marfa, Texas. right past few days I met the guy who directed
and produced the documentary sushi the global catch, which
it's apparently is really good is award winning. And it's about
the whole DVD from him. I'm all set out. I just haven't had time
to watch because we only got back yesterday. This guy's very
interesting Mark Hall. So I'll let you know about that. That
may that may be a tip for no agenda to watch list.
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bumped into a couple of interesting things as I've been
desperately searching to find anything else that's going on
and you know what was being shoved down our throats? It was
kind of interesting listening to man radio was so lost in this
country. It is impossible just traveling from if you're driving
for more than an hour at a distance you're losing these
stations you can't listen to anything
yeah there's been a new ruling the FCC especially if you're
driving at night the FCC is required them to turn down the
power Oh really? Yeah. So they there's a big division about
this to turn on the power because of the big the big flame
thrower stations with the 50,000 watts right at once the
ionosphere comes into play at night. They drown out the local
right but you're talking about the AM's Yeah, right years. Oh
FM M
I'm not just talking Oh yeah, you've
got no distance, you can
barely hear anything. I mean, no wonder no wonder streaming radio
is going to win over everything. Now, in fact, even though it was
piss poor driving all the way out to Marfa, which is about six
now, six and a half hour drive from from Austin, through and
through to West Texas, but it was just noticeable that you
cannot listen. I mean, you try to listen to NPR and then you
know, you lose the station. And then it comes back again. And
then it's only country essentially, would I like to be
some good country, but it's just it's impossible to get any other
type of information. And then when you do get the station,
it's the same thing over and over and over again, and
inconspicuous dumb. Do some hunting around because I'm, you
know, I'm thinking there's so many things that just drop off
the radar that we don't hear anything about anymore. And, and
of course, I'm still very interested in how the Snowden
thing is unpacking. Now we know that jet again, new documents
have come to light magically, that the NSA is sharing. I love
the sharing mean,
by the way, this story had gotten zero play in the
mainstream,
about the sharing with Israel.
Yeah, apparently, Israel's got all of our data. Yeah.
And soon they will have your fingerprint from the iPhone
five. Yeah, I'm gonna be buying that. Does anyone else? I mean,
does anyone else see the fallacy in that in the what necessity is
there? To put a fingerprint scanner on your iPhone? What is
the actual necessity? Even from a coolness factor? It's dumb.
Does it make any sense? either? No.
Doesn't make any sense whatsoever other than to store
it to have it I guess. And we know, we know that, you know,
only six or eight months after Steve Jobs died. That's when
Apple signed on board with prison. Right? I'm in the market
for an iPhone three. I think those were the good ones. I
think those are the ones that are still safe. Anyway, so you
know, this, this story comes out. And again, if you haven't
heard it, apparently, according to a memorandum and all we have
is a document it doesn't really give me much more than that. Is
that the NSA takes the raw data, doesn't cleanse it. But
regardless, I mean, I don't care who they're spying on. They're
spying on people and then giving it to other countries including
Israel.
And I find that they actually like a mailing list company.
I find this to be outrageous. Seriously, just outrageous that
this is taking place. And then I find I'm always looking at at
the players and Laura Poitras is, of course very interesting
person in all of this. She is the one that apparently had the
first contact and MacArthur Foundation winner. Now she's she
takes money from at least she half of her documentary and she
and she came to Edward Snowden as part of a documentary she's
already making. She that is partially funded by her
MacArthur Foundation grant and from the Bertha foundation we
also know the story behind that pure anti Israel organization.
So there's this players, there's big big players and all of this
and there's lots of money going around. And and then I stumble
upon, the guy had kind of forgotten about Jacob Appelbaum.
He's back in the picture again. Now do we remember Jacob
Appelbaum?
The name or Isabel and I think we've discussed him before
Jacob Appelbaum is the guy who all of a sudden popped onto the
scene as the spokesperson for Julian Assange back and all that
guy. He is the Navy guy who co created co founded the Tor
network, now known to be compromised.
Right, right. Yeah, I know who this is. Yeah, Applebaum. He
gives good speeches.
Well, if you were to hold a whistleblower award ceremony,
where would you have this ceremony?
Well, I think the funniest place to have it would be somewhere in
the Virginia area.
Yeah, no, it's in Berlin. Of course, why not in Berlin? And,
of course, who wins and award Edward Snowden but who accepts
the award on his behalf? Well, bomb Gee, there he is, again,
ladies and gentlemen. And I think we should listen to a
little bit of his his speech. I have a couple clips here. I've
broken it up a little bit just so we can. We can dissect it,
but I'm very suspicious of Apple bombs role in all of this. It
sounds to me, in fact, a bit like he's running. A little bit
of interference, maybe even for whichever agency he represents.
I'm not sure which one it is. But no, let's just listen to you
tonight.
It's, it's quite an honor, actually. And it's really a
privilege and especially to have someone like Laura, in the
audience here with us and to have Glenn also, to send a
video. I would speak with you in German, but this seems like a
place where I should be able to express myself naturally. And
it's Emily
and she question, why wouldn't Laura Poitras accept the award?
Why does Applebaum have to come into this? What sense does this
make?
What sense does it make that he has to express it in his own
language? is freedom of speech a
little difficult for me so I apologize if English is not easy
for you? I'll try to not speak too quickly.
By the way, Germans have no problem understanding your
English dude. When I spoke
with
no you know, who would stop for a second this has to be
reconsidered this this this commentary when he says he has
to speak in English, there's some code coming out that he
can't do in German.
Like a nuance. Yeah,
there's a nuance or something he has to say for somebody's
benefit. That has to be said in English because it won't make
any sense in German. Let's listen
to it against you tonight.
It's it's quite an honor, actually. And it's really a
privilege and especially to have someone like Laura in the
audience here with us and to have Glenn also, to send a video
I would speak with you in German, but this seems like a
place where I should be able to express myself naturally and
it's a little difficult for me so I apologize if English is not
Oh, no, I know what it is because what he's saying is not
intended for the German audience is intended for the American
audience.
Yes. Like to sign as you see in these protests are written in
English. Let's ask him that to go back to the other concept,
though. I didn't really show Greenwald and Laura are both out
in the audience. Laura's
in the audience Greenwald sent in a video. Okay. You know, I
recorded a little little video.
Okay, I'll just let it slide. But it just seemed you're right
is stupid.
I mean, for Laura Poitras, not to be she's the one that had the
contact she has. She's the one that's been the center of all of
this. Why is she getting up on? Why is she getting up on stage
and accepting this? Yes, she should.
Easy for you. I'll try to not speak too quickly. When I spoke
with Edward Snowden this evening, she wanted me to convey
a message to you, which I will read. But he also wanted me to
not talk too much about geopolitics. And not to talk too
much about all of the things that everyone else has already
said this evening. And instead, he wanted me to talk about
individuals to talk about people. He wanted me to talk
about hope for change.
Really, really. He wanted me to talk about hope for change. Was
this guy Barack Obama three now? Strange. I'm sorry. Are you
doing another show somewhere in another room? But are you okay?
I did. What is the new rig I set up over here? Right? Yeah, so I
knocked over the microphone. Stand up just now getting put
back where it belongs.
And it landed on the cat's tail, the captain jumped up, hit the
lampshade, the lampshade tipped over. And that disrupted your
entire poise on your chaise lounge. Anyway,
finished this clip off.
And this reminded me of something that one of the
greatest American whistleblowers to ever live is famous for
saying that is Daniel Ellsberg. He said, courage is contagious.
And I see amongst people here in the audience, a number, a number
of people who embody that Laura, being the clear, winner of that
so far.
A little sickening. And I think why why would she not a
whistleblower? She hasn't blown any whistles?
And if she had, why is she getting the award? Like you
said, initially, there's even a name other names. Now stay
tuned.
It is important to talk about what each of us have as a
personal agency. That is to say, each and every one of us has the
ability to what do you just
say there? Oh, my second watch said something about his
personal agency.
His personal agency was I didn't know that. Were they doing
franchising? Let's have another listen to that. Would you like
to have your own personal intelligence agency? My friend,
well,
can I have challenge coins to go with that agency then you got to
do
and I see amongst people here in the audience, a number a number
of people who embody that Laura, being the clear winner of that
so far. And I think that it is important to talk about what
each of us have as our personal agency. You're right.
This is a weird thing to say. What each of each of us has our
own personal agency. That is to say Add each and
every handlers, well, he's gonna let it slip out. And there's
something wrong with this.
He's explaining it here.
Every one of us has the ability to stand against corruption, to
stand against war crimes, to stand against things that we
know are obvious lies that are done in our name. For each and
every one of us when we choose it, in each of the actions we do
every single day, it's a very straightforward and simple
thing. And so it is, I think, important to think of this not
as an issue of internet freedom.
Whoa, internet freedom, Ooh, careful, careful, careful when
you say these things, because that means you're on the wrong
side of the fence, dude, but
as a question of our own personal liberties, and we must
have a consciousness raising about our own role in this. So
when we, when we talk about spying on the internet, we
should not pretend we are exempt from this, because in fact, it
is a question of spying on our very lives in every aspect of
our lives, so as to be able to literally, in some cases, try to
read our minds.
Alright, now I'm going to play this out of order. Because the
actual note he has from Snowden, I think, is written by the same
PR lady who wrote the New York Times op ed for Putin. So let's
just skip ahead, and we can come back to that. An apple bomb is
talking about why he's in Berlin.
I think, though, that what he meant is something that many of
us have felt, which is why Laura lives in Berlin, which is why I
now live in Berlin. Oh,
hold on a second. Oh, they live in Berlin. Why do you live in
Berlin?
Germany has because you're so courageous history with these
types of issues. That is not forgotten. But it is, in fact,
carried forth and remembered today. This is something which
is so important, because it is not that at all crap, or Laura's
journalism, or my standing here is against the United States.
Wait a
minute, wait, let's let's roll that back for a second. Let's
you say here,
that Edward Snowden or Laura's journalism, or my standing here
is against the United States, it is actually the case that we are
American citizens asking for your solidarity and your help,
because there are certain corrupt individuals in our
government who have taken it. And they have done things in our
name, that are simply wrong
planet. So he's now saying, the middle Clap, clap, clap. He's
saying that they live in Germany, because they can't live
in America because they are corrupt individuals who have
done wrong. By rogue, let's listen to the second part of
this explanation to
the individuals that are here, each and every one of us. What I
hope is that it will be possible for each of you to recognize
that there are people in the United States who need to learn
from the history that each of you has learned that many of you
have lived. And that right now is so sorely lacking in the
debate and in the discussion. We must not let history especially
German history of the 20th and the early 21st century be
forgotten.
Okay, hold on, he is going to a never again moment, I might
point out, he is Jewish. So he's he's doing polling a Debbie
Wasserman Schultz in a way where she literally said never again,
regarding Syria, now he's doing and never again. And he's
claiming that people in the audience will remember this.
That people in the How old are these people in the audience.
This is something that was learned through very hard, very
hard times. And it is something that the rest of humanity is not
exempt from. And so it is my hope that if each and every
single one of you were to adopt an American, or simply to reach
out as individuals, this is something that can create
change, when it is a German that speaks to the world and says
these things, they scare me the same way that the Stasi says
that song scares me. When I see these things, and they remind me
of secret police action. When I see political crackdowns, when I
see journalists being treated as terrorists, it reminds me of
darker times. And to show what those darker times are to talk
about the relationship and to talk about the progression past
that that kind of personal connection is something that
allows people to move past their fear, which is controlling them
now. And so, what I want to leave you with is the same thing
that Edward Snowden has left with me, I think, and with all
of us, hopefully, which is that courage is contagious. And it is
up to all of us now to follow on with what he has started. Thank
you.
I don't understand this. This and if you want, I can play the
note from Snowden. But maybe it's better.
I'm gonna have to hear the note from Snowden. You're gonna have
to play it because now this is getting weird. It's
annoying, isn't it? I mean, so for this kind of courage.
It's a little condescending it's a little patronizing. It's a
little much
and for someone who has said he's living in Germany in
Berlin, and of course there's nothing wrong with Germany. No
Angela Merkel is great. If nothing at all nothing with the
European Central Bank or the Troika, or screwing Southern
Europe out these these people are fantastic. They're honest.
Berlin is great. And but your your the courage is so
contagious. You have to live there because of the corrupt
individuals in America. I take it as an insult. Come over, come
back home man. And
he's, he's obviously he's there for a different reason. There's
something up with him. And he knows he's got either a target
on his back or that somebody's gonna beat him up, or I don't
know. But this is this is bullcrap. In fact, I think you'd
be surprised you haven't played the bullshit. little jingle
bullshit. I have it just. It's just, it's bullshit. That's all
I'm thinking when listening to this.
Let's listen to the to the letter that Snowden sent. And
for some reason, Glenn Greenwald could make a video Laura Poitras
could be there. Jacob Appelbaum who has no job as far as I can
tell. I look at his book of knowledge entry, he has no job.
So
you know, somebody's got he's got to he's not. Unless he's
begging on the street. He's can't afford living in Berlin.
Yeah, so he's doing something. It's funny that the Wikipedia
page makes more an issue of him being bisexual than what job he
has. Wikipedia is a very strange book of knowledge. I'll tell you
why. But anyway, that of course, if I go to Berlin, I have a
chance of seducing him and getting all kinds of information
out of him. Yeah,
but when I spoke with him this evening, his first question was
not about how things would go, but he asked me if I had slept.
She asked me how I was feeling. And I told him that I was fine.
And he said, Are you sure? What? This is a person who really
cares about other people? This is a well he has been attacked.
That's what that was.
Yes, he asked me how I'm doing have I slept he really cares
about other people. He's wondering if you're like at a
gun to somebody's got a gun to your head? Probably.
No, but this is because I don't believe this is a note from
Edward Snowden. I
obvious it's probably well anyway, we would get finished
I'm sorry, interrupt
and relentlessly smeared by the propaganda machines. He is a
person who has thrown himself onto the gears of that very
machine. And he has done it for each and every one of us. And I
can't actually believe that it is true, in some sense, because
it just seems so incredibly powerful. So passionate, and so
beautiful.
We need to do we need to guys on
E is Ani you know, he asked me first he said, Have you slept
it's so beautiful.
And so with that in mind, I'd like to read what he had to say.
And I think that this is it's beautiful. The first time that I
read it, I cried.
Oh, play the ball crap
I gotta roll that back. That's very funny thing on the top.
This is it's beautiful. The first time that I read it, I
cried mostly because he is of such high moral character.
high moral character is great. Are you gonna play the harmonica
throughout the whole thing? I should but then play a song then
and don't just like give me the tune.
It really rings true to me. I can't play.
He says it is a great honor to be recognized for the public
good created by this act of whistleblowing. However, the
greater reward and recognition belongs to the individuals and
organizations in countless countries around the world who
shattered boundaries of language and geography, to stand together
in defense of the public right to know and the value of our
privacy. It is not I but the public who is affected this
powerful change to abrogation of basic constitutional rights by
secret agencies. It is not I but newspapers around the world who
have reason to hold our governments to the issues. Fish
bullshit.
Hold on a second. It's not I but the newspapers.
Wow. He's saying
the newspapers are the guardians of reality aggregation
of basic constitutional rights by secret agencies. It is not I
but newspapers around the world who have reason to hold our
governments to the issues when powerful officials sought to
distract from these very issues. But this
this is so so not true. This is not true.
I have no idea what he's talking about. Ah,
well that's because you're playing like, Coke bottles with
water in them. What are you doing? I'm over
here by the old the old sound effect device. You're gonna grab
this one.
But are you listening?
Yeah, I'm listening. It's bull crap. It's just as like, I'm
surprised you're not playing the bull crap that
played continuously we got to listen to a little
rumor and insult and it is not I but certain brave
representatives and governments around the world who are
proposing new protections, limits and safeguards to prevent
medial shield law.
That's where that's coming from. Oh, yeah,
this is written this is.
I told no. Bullshit. This is written by the same lady who
wrote the Putin op ed.
Yeah, there's a there's a big script that's playing out in
front of us. We don't know what the point is.
Well, stay
tuned, we may catch something in the next two minutes future
assault on our public rights and private lives. My gratitude
belongs to all of those who have reached out to their friends and
family to explain why suspicionless surveillance
matters. It belongs to the man in a mask on the street on a hot
day and a woman with a sign and an umbrella in the rain.
John le Carre was busy writing a novel.
I think he's talking about anonymous with the mask on and
Mary Poppins apparently with the lady with the umbrella
suspicionless surveillance matters. It belongs to the man
in a mask on the street on a hot day and the woman with a sign
and an umbrella in the rain. It belongs to the young people in
college with a civil liberties sticker on their laptop and the
kid in the back of a class in high school making memes all of
these people
making memes making me
What is he talking about? Hey, man, I'm sitting here in the
back of the class. I'm going to make a meme. One what's
one 126? What do you remember when we heard Snowden talk on
that video? He didn't sound that prolific like he does now.
No, no, this is written by somebody else. But I think
whoever the somebody else's is an idiot to say that a kid in
the back of the classroom room is making memes today even know
what a meme is.
In a mask on the street on a hot day and the woman with a sign
and an umbrella in the rain. It belongs to the young people in
college with the Sotheby's sticker on their laptop and the
kid in the back of a class in high school making memes. All of
these people accept that change begins with a single voice and
spoke one message to the world. Governments must be accountable
to us for the decisions that they make decisions regarding
the kind of world we will live in. What kinds of rights and
freedoms individuals will enjoy are the domain of the public,
not the government in the dark. Yet the happiness of this
occasion is for me tempered by an awareness of the road
traveled to bring us here today. In contemporary America, the
combination of weak legal protections for whistleblowers,
bad laws that provide no public interest, defense, and a
doctrine of immunity for officials who have strayed
beyond the boundaries of law has perverted the system of
incentives that regulate secrecy and government. This results in
a situation that associates an unreasonably high price with
maintaining the necessary foundation of liberal democracy.
Our informed citizenry, speaking truth to power has caused
whistleblowers their freedom, family, or country. This
situation befits Neither America nor the world, and does not
require sophistication to understand the policies equating
necessary acts of warning with threats to national security,
inevitably lead to ignorance and insecurity. This society that
falls into the deterrent trap known in cultural wisdom, as
shooting the messenger will quickly find that not only is it
without messengers, but it no longer enjoys messages at all.
It is right to question the wisdom of such policies and the
unintended incentives that result from them. If the penalty
providing secret information to a foreign government in bad
faith is less than the penalty for providing that information
to the public in good faith. Are we not incentivizing spies
rather than whistleblowers?
Okay, so he's making some sense there. Yeah, yes.
What does it mean for the public when we apply laws targeting
terrorism against those engaged in acts of journalism? Can we
enjoy openness in our society if we prioritize and I got it?
Yes. What is it? Greenwald wrote wrote this? Yes, of course. Of
course. Of course.
It sounds like I'm doing the same. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. I totally agree. But why?
Well, Greenwald likes to write so that
I know but doesn't does that not then compromise his position as
the journalist who is reporting on this if he is writing
Now I could be a journalist one minute as speech writer the next
it wouldn't bother me at all.
Okay, well, I, to me, it feels like that. So isn't there some
ethical thing about that you can't do?
No, no, not your to be at here's the ethics, the ethical problem
the way I would see it on on the most liberal way of looking at
it would be if you wrote an article saying what a great
speech.
Hold on a second, let me see what Glenn Greenwald has written
about. Hold on a second. Let's do this now. Glenn Greenwald,
that'll be a whistle blower award. I want a whistleblower
award by the way. Let's see. Oh, we have his video as well. It's
a long one, though. I don't want to Snowden wins whistleblower
award. Well, hold on. Let's see. Let's see if he talks. I'll find
it. I'll find it and I'll bet you I'll bet you that that Glenn
Greenwald wrote something about with this chilling speech, some
bullcrap word like that. You watch because the guy has no
shame. I know you're a fan.
I'd be interesting. I bet she's going to be soft. It's going to
be soft petals is a very unique and interesting speech. But
isn't that isn't that? Okay? Well, I'll find out if you wrote
anything about it. But isn't that by definition? Just weird.
If you're reporting on the guy, he's the story. And then you're
writing speeches on behalf of him. That's weird.
I can't prove it. No, no, you put us so obvious. So blowers.
What does it mean for the public when we apply laws targeting
terrorism against those engaged in acts of terror almost over?
Can we enjoy openness in our society if we prioritize
intimidation and revenge over fact finding and investigation
back? Where do we draw the line between national security and
public interest? And how can we have confidence in the balance
when the only advocates allowed at the table of review come from
the halls of government itself? Questions such as these can only
be answered through the kind of vigorous public discussion we
are enjoying today. We must never forget the lessons of
history regarding the dangers of surveillance gone too far, nor
our human power to amend such systems to the public benefit.
The road we travel has been difficult, but it leads us to
better times. Together, we can guarantee both the safety and
the rights of the generations that follow. Okay. It's almost
over bait from the highest official to the smallest
citizen. I say thank you, Edward J. Snowden.
Edward J. Snowden. Edward J. Snowden.
Edward J. Snowden. Yeah, there you go. I thought it was s.
Oh, really? No, that's interesting.
Well, I could I mean, Spy was J, but I just thought it was s.
Why did we think was s let me see Edward. Now it's J. Edward
Joseph Snowden. It makes sense. Well, we'll have another shot.
See, September 19. Can you make it over to the lodge at the
Regency center?
Where's this in San
Francisco? Oh, no. What's happening? Well, at six o'clock,
the 2013 Eff pioneer awards. Oh, the Glenn Greenwald and Laura
Poitras will receive an award as pioneers. I can get into that.
And Aaron Schwartz will receive an award posthumously.
Well, it's gonna be a good cry for everyone.
And James love Who's james love.
Love is related to Reggie Love.
He's one of the leading champions in the international
battle for access to knowledge. He is the director of the
knowledge ecology International. Hmm.
I get James Lovell, UK.
Hey, you know, what? Would you call me back? It's, we're now
what are we? About an hour and 25 minutes into it? And now I'm
getting a little packet loss from you. Not too bad today.
I've been getting a packet losses, but it hasn't been well,
I can see they're in there.
Okay. All right. Goodbye. I love you. Love you so much. All
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got one thing for you this really this this happened this
morning. Miss Mickey made me pancakes on Thursday, which is
nice. It doesn't happen. It usually only happens on the on
the Sunday shows. And so she should I turn on NPR. I'm like,
yeah, we'll see what's going on. We'll listen to it. Because, you
know, nevermind, I just turn on NPR. And I hear this report. And
I know a lot about this particular instance, and what
has gone on here. And I'll give you the background. There is a
law that was put on the books quite a while ago, that any song
before 1978, I believe. And now we're like 35 years. If an
artist had written the song, or whoever wrote the song, if you
had sold the rights to that song with the publishing, you could
get it back after 35 years. So it was not an indefinite sale.
And you have some inherent rights. And this is part of the
copyright law of the land, which of course you don't hear a lot
about because oh my god, let's not give any of these artists
any any crazy ideas to go getting their material back
which they have the right to legally by legal copyright law
in America. So this happens and you may have heard the story and
one of the village people gets the rights to his song back.
This is how NPR reports on this very important. legal issue,
which is a big deal, not just to this guy but to all artists and
to copyright in general. And here's how your national
treasure handles the story on their business program. Village
People singer Victor Willis has finally won a share of the
income from his most famous song download
the New York Times reports the Willis you know him as the
police officer has emerged from six years of legal wrestling
with a new copyright in hand. The Victor gives him substantial
control over why MCA and 32 other village people tune he
said he's considering a move that would ban village people
songs from being performed by his former bandmates. Yes, the
cowboy, the construction worker, the Indian and all the rest are
still around and touring but without Mr. Willis. So today's
last word in business is singing with me. Here it comes here
comes by. Hey, and that's the business news on Morning Edition
from NPR News. I'm Steve Inskeep and I'm Rene Montana.
Okay, these people are such a holes. This is a really
important story. And this guy can be now making three four,
maybe $500,000 a year in commercial publishing isn't it's
actually it is a business story. And all they can do is say, Oh,
he's gonna forbid the other vintage people from performing
the song. Oh, let's sing along. Fuck you NPR. I was really
pissed about this. This is dumb. This is done. That's not
reporting. Shock, shocker. Shocker. But you know, it's
always this is the big secret of journalism. Whenever they report
on something you actually know about. It's always wrong. shakur
shot well I'll throw you the shocker.
Well, I was listening to Fox
I'm so sorry. So sorry to hear that. Yes.
And there was an Anthony Weiner was on Oh,
wait a minute. Are you grabbing my clips of the day here? Are
you trying to usurp me Dvorak? What do you got? Play it? Well,
I'm I'm looking for your clip.
No, no, it's your clip.
While you're actually you're actually going to get my clip?
Yeah, yeah, I didn't figure I had to make the clip because you
had it.
Alright. It wasn't Fox. It was MSNBC.
Oh, I'm stablish those facts. What news? Are you breaking
here?
What I'm trying to get at Anthony is what drives you.
Okay. You asked me that question. And you're pursuing me
that question Anthony. I mean it from a psychiatric level. I
don't care what your psychiatric questions you hear doing being
you are being driven
by some kind of demons. And when asked me a question, or do you
have me on a harangue with a split screen is can't be good TV
for anybody. All right, you know, whatever. We got about 20
seconds.
I'd like you to stay if you will. It will continue this
online and you can rank online nobody watches the show. What do
you think? So you want to say whatever you
want. Alright, so I'm just going to stop it here because the
maniacal laugh was kind of the best part. But I want to say
something very important. When Amy Winehouse died, everybody
was oh man was sad and there was, you know, outpouring of
sorrow. But all I saw and I'm generalizing all I saw certainly
from the media was laughter and pointing and look at the train
wreck and it's hilarious and oh my god, look at that nut job.
Winehouse, the druggie the drunk, and we're doing it again,
and I find it weirdly perverted that I'm defending Anthony
Wiener, but someone needs to help the man. His wife has
deserted him right she would when this interview was done
just before the democratic mayoral candidate was chosen,
his wife was with the Clintons at their private fundraiser.
She's the guy is deserted. It's sad. Jon Stewart. Here's what I
do. John Stewart should make it a personal mission of his to go
and save his former roommate. The man needs saving this will
end very, very poorly and everyone will be Hodor that
happen. The pressure that is on this man right now. Forget what
he did.
maniacal laugh is kind of the giveaway. It's a it's it's but
let's play a little part again, because it's actually that this
is not a normal laugh that this is a maniacal laugh. This is
like something to me,
you are being driven by some kind of demons. And you want to
ask me a question, or you have me on a harangue with a split
screen is can't be good TV for anybody.
It is great to
know here's Yeah, yeah, that's, that's the laugh of a man at the
end of his rope.
is totally, that's a bad laugh. Yeah, that is.
So I just want to say, you know that everyone's laughing at the
guy. And it's a it's all a big joke. But it's going to end
very, very poorly for him. And it will be on everyone who I
mean, I can't help him. But there are certainly people who
can. And they should read and they should and it's time.
Sometimes you need to take someone and take them out. You
know, it's happens in show business all the time when when
someone is you know, too naughty, then you know, they
have managers and and lawyers and record companies and they
take them away, put them into funny farm for a while. I'm
sorry. It's called a spa. You go for relaxation. The guy
desperately needs this. That's all that's all I'm gonna say
about it. But we can't just as a society, I can't stand by and
say oh, it's a funny train wreck without pointing out the
obvious. And yeah, and it is good TV, though. I'll be I have
to it is good. TV is wrong on that. Yeah. This can't be good,
too. Yes, it is. But he never did this, right. He's right.
Laura's or Donald did nothing, too. He's just kept yakking?
Yeah. You need help my friend. You need help.
Yeah, big time. Help. Me. Yeah. Well, he does need help.
So there was a September 11 celebration, which we mentioned
the newsletter, which was the September 11. was the day of the
coup in Chile.
Yes. That was 40th anniversary. Yes. 7973. Do you know that John
F. Kerry visited Kissinger on September 11. Well, was
Kissinger I
didn't know that. But
was Kissinger not intimately involved in
Oh, yeah. Kissinger and Nixon in the CIA right through right.
Blend age and put in this creepy guy Pinochet?
Yeah, so what did they do? They went and had a drink.
I don't know. They're just the probably high fives or whatever
they back then. So there was a lot of stuff on the on the
Democracy Now show was quite interesting. A lot of details on
how, you know, we had an American reporter that was was
was murdered and it became the movie missing with Jack Lemmon.
Oh, yeah, that movie, the missing 1988 movie from Jack
Lemmon was about the situation and it was creepy. And we did
nothing to help anybody. And if you want to see a real digital,
the creepiest part of American government was in the 70s. But
you should watch that movie and you'll get a sense of it. But
here's a kind of I wish I had a lot of clips. I could have
pulled from this but I decided to you know that, you know this,
just a bunch of people with deep Spanish accent you couldn't
understand. But they told how he was, you know, kidnapped and
murdered and tortured again, there was also a musician famous
musician was involved. He's murdered he was like a famous
guy so they broke his hand so he couldn't play anymore. Then they
killed first they broke his hands and they shot him
I don't know and I need to brush up on my
granddad went on and it was all kind of you know, we because
because Nixon was it was all in I think it was too embarrassed
Nixon too. But here's an interesting prelude to a coup,
which was the way this what his how things were changing on the
spot and how they could tell there's a military coup in play.
Describe what happened on September 11 1973. Where were
you? Where was Victor? Yeah, well, we were both at home with
our two daughters. They were somehow a coup in the air. We
had been fearing that there will might be a medic military coup.
On that morning. Together, Victor and I listened to a
youngers last speech. And hurdle the radios the who supported
savonnerie and falling off the air see one by one and being
replaced by military marches. Victor was due to go to the
Technical University his place of work where I ended was due to
speak to announce the purpose it at 11 o'clock.
Do you imagine where that's just happening? We're just this radio
stations just dropping off the air and I guess they're playing
military craft or something. Wow.
So So anyway, this woman was Victor Jaras wife that was she
was on Democracy Now that gave her lots of time, who was the
kid jar and just to help jars is very famous folk singer that was
a guest, a supporter of a yen Dana's socialist, and so they
decided to kill him and make an example out of it. Okay. So they
identified here's the interesting, the interesting
part of the story, which isn't very well explored, because
democracy now is still Obama bots. And so they won't really
say the obvious. This woman is in the country because she's
part of a civil suit against the guy living in Florida, who
apparently was the guy who masterminded a lot of the
assassinations, and was brought over the United States a few
years after they ousted Pinochet, and they set up shop
in Orlando or someplace. He's been living here for 20 years.
Wow. And so they wanted and then the Chilean government has put
out an extradition order to bring the guy to justice in
Chile and we are ignoring it.
You mean pot kettle calling yellow wave, we have a jingle
for that. Hello, kettle, this is the pot calling. Okay. No
Snowden for you.
So they are going away to do anything that needed. So they're
trying they're running the civil suit, because the civil suit
will give more evidence that this is the guy to the US
government. So they will, they will extradite the guy but the
US government's not budging on this. And apparently he brought
over a bunch of these guys, after the Pinochet murderous
butcheries administration was ousted. And it was all cool.
Come on, guys, get over here. We'll we'll save you because
they were all been, you know, hung. But that's that's our
government at work instead of you know, we're going after
Snowden. But we want to extradite the real criminals
that are in our country.
And I find it interesting that it happens on on September 11.
What an interesting date in history. If you really look at
it. It's crazy. A lot of stuff has happened really has.
So there's a couple other things going on, especially in the
Latin community. But just an interesting thing going on in
Mexico. We got a lot of economic hitman action going on there
that we're not paying much attention to
1000s of people rallied in Mexico City on Sunday against
the Mexican government's plans to overhaul the country's energy
sector. The Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto is pushing an
effort to open the state controlled oil company to
investment from foreign multinationals. Addressing the
crowd former Mexico City Mayor and presidential candidate
Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador accused Pena Nieto of backing
privatization.
Well, that's the new guy who's in and stuff changes when you
get the new guy in.
You got the right guy in and now we're getting some action so our
big boys can get get all the money. And then finally, the
last thing, which is the NSA related story, there's two piece
pieces to this clip. And this is I didn't know this either. But
again, it involves oil this time Brazil, and this is spying on
Brazil.
The NSA apparently tapped into Petrobras is Internal
Communications Network. The news of more NSA spying in Brazil
comes one week after it emerged. The US has spied on the phone
calls and emails of Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff and
Mexican President Enrique Pena, and yet to the revelations have
sparked a diplomatic uproar and threatened to plan trip by
herself to the US next month. At the G 20. Summit in Russia, who
Seph said she raised her concerns directly with President
Obama and added her visit to the US will depend on how Obama
responds. Brazil has rejected the US government's attempt to
explain the spying so far Brazilian Communications
Minister Paulo Bernardo said quote, All of the explanations
that have been given to us from the beginning have proven to be
false.
And apparently the zillion government sent a delegation to
Moscow to interview Edward J. Snowden about this espionage
went Oh, I didn't know that they should just go they did not have
to leave the country they can just go to Glenn Greenwald
writes all the lives there and he writes the answer, so why
not?
Yeah, well anyway, there's a part two of this, which I
thought was funny, just kind of humorous because this is the
last thing you could ever expect.
In an interview with the Hindu newspaper, former Brazilian
President Luiz Inacio, Lula DE SILVA criticized the NSA spy
program and said President Obama should quote personally
apologize to the world. Agree. Yeah,
I know it's easy for him to do. Yeah, I was. I found some
interesting articles first of all, Kaiser Alexander. He showed
up at Burning Man. What Yeah, he was up at Burning Man. There's
there's reports of him at Burning Man. I think the guy's I
think he's on E.
Well, he would be at Burning Man.
And so I'm reading all these people keep sending me
interesting articles. Apparently, he has, or had a in
his office he had a replica of and this may be this may be CIA?
PR bullcrap. Because of course, I don't know for sure. But
apparently he had a, like the the Star Trek, like the bridge,
replicated. And then with a big chair with a captain's chair.
And he had the big screen in the middle of cage. Yeah, but he was
bringing congressmen and senators over I think this is in
Florida. So they could come in, you know, and and think about
how that's exactly what these nincompoop senators think is
what it is right? They think that oh, yes, no, this is all
cyber stuff. And this is exactly how we need to this is how it
goes. And we have to be very, very, very, very careful of
what's happening. And, and of course, you know, if you listen
to Stuart Baker, former Department of Homeland Security
Secretary, depending on how things go with Syria, it's going
to cause direct cyber attacks.
This, we absolutely need to prepare here. By taking on
Syria, we are also taking on Hezbollah and Iran, backers of
that regime and if they choose to try to make the the United
States regret the sanctions it imposes they have very
substantial capabilities, has beleid has its own cruise
missiles. And so I didn't know
that by the way, Hezbollah has its own cruise missiles,
two pieces of crap. A terrorist organization with that kind of
capability certainly can develop and use cyber attacks or can
send people to the United States to carry out attacks. So we
would have to go on a pretty substantial alert basis, they
would be biting off a lot. They're already on alert against
Israel and fighting in Syria themselves. So they may decide
that it's not prudent to attack now wait for it. It's not a
strategy for us. We need to be worried about defensive
capabilities. And for the first time, we faced the risk that we
will have a cyber attack aimed at getting us to quit engaging
in military action. Iran is widely blamed for a series of
attacks on our financial institutions that have been
visibly punch pulling exercises in which the the attackers Oh,
now,
this didn't happen. It just didn't happen. There is no
evidence of this. We've had media reports that sounded a bit
like it but it was a drill. We had the cyber drills for the
FBI. We did them Yeah, but it was a drill and there's I
haven't heard anything about this the attack will
last and what day it will happen. And obviously they could
do more and cause more damage. And again arann having blamed us
for Stuxnet.
Hello, we admitted Stuxnet is this not at this point it's just
known
for the day to is going to be less constrained about using
that kind of weapon against the United States on behalf of an
ally like Syria so we will have to up our game both physically
and virtually virtually up your game up your game that's a dead
little phrase keeps cropping up your game yeah
up your game got up our game.
I'm gonna come on come on. Oh
my Lord. This is Abdullah. I'm calling to internet series Sinai
internet cafe. Are you there? Yeah. Do you guys have PHP do I
have root access if I come into the internet cafe because I got
to drop some stuff here on the US.
You bet. Game baby. This bullcrap Yeah. And Well, that's
the former Secretary DeVos, former director
of this is all part of the scheme just to soak the public.
Yeah. Of Money. of money. Yeah, I know $4 billion for this cyber
army they're supposed to be putting together
but I thought the total was like, 18 that they're looking
for? Well, we
gotta get in on.
Yeah, I can't even build a podcast device. Almost. We're
almost there. We're almost there. A little agenda 21 stuff
for a moment, John. Of course. The news is now here. It's
predicted to be an above average hurricane season this year due
to a warmer Atlantic. With nearly three months to go. CSU
is murky now ranking season.
You know, I'll play it again.
It was predicted to be an above average hurricane season this
year due to a warmer Atlantic with nearly three months to go
CSU researchers are now revising their hurricane estimates
because there have been no major storms.
Oh my goodness. So it's very interesting what's taking place
now. The the messengers are out in full force on this on the
pause button on the global warming which now all scientists
agree that the warming has paused. But But of course
everyone is freaking out explaining and by the way, I am
living inside the book. What was it? What was Oh, come on, but
the bookie made me read the the dead writer. Come on. I'm
drawing a blank here.
The dead writer.
Yeah, the dead guy who wrote the book? Yes. Michael Creighton,
what's the name of the book?
Yeah, the hell is the name of the book Tritons book on global
warming.
Crisis in cycling encyclopedia on global warming? No, it was,
oh my god, Brian,
just hit the shove a favor and go to the book of knowledge. And
I'm not gonna do that. Yeah, I'll do it.
Alright, so what has come out and it came out in the Daily
Mail. Although, you know, not the epitome of journalism, not
the pinnacle. This Daily Mail article does show the facts that
the Arctic cap has is 60% bigger than it was last year. And of
course, this is where everybody is freaking out like this is how
abrogate were fear and fear. Thank you very much. Yeah,
stupid. I can't believe we forgot that. Anyway, our friend
Faraj Farraj, took this actually printed out the NASA photographs
of the ice cap and took it to to shut up. Burroughs game. They're
in the Euro Parliament, which is always good for a laugh. You
keep telling us the climate change is an absolute top
priority. And you've been greeted with almost hysteria in
this place over the last 10 years. Well, those of us that
have been skeptical about this have been mocked, derided,
called deniers. We've argued from the start, that the science
wasn't settled. And we've argued very strongly that the measures
we're taking to combat what may or may not be a problem, are
damaging our citizens. And we've been proved to be right 10s of
millions forced into fuel poverty,
manufacturing industry being driven away, because of course,
our competitors in China and in America are going for cheap
fossil alternatives. And of course, wind turbines, blighting
the landscapes and seascapes of Europe and still today, you go
on about green growth. Well, the consensus is breaking behind
you, you know, Commissioner to Johnny, at the other day said
that actually, we face a systematic industrial massacre,
it is time to stop this stupidity. And to help you.
There's the NASA photograph, last August of the ice cap, the
northern ice caps, and there is the NASA photograph this year of
the ice caps, it has increased by 60%. In one year, leading
American scientists are now saying, we are going into a
period of between 15 and 30 years of global cooling, we may
have made one of the biggest stupid as collective mistakes in
history by getting so worried about global warming. You can
reverse this in the next seven or eight months, you can bring
down people's taxes if you don't, they'll vote on it in the
European elections of next year. There you go.
And what I don't understand is that everyone is fighting this
when you know, the whole idea is climate change. If if I were all
of the people slapping down the deniers I would say yeah, I
would take a whole different tactic and not try and defend
the warming as Oh, it's normal. This is how it works with
different people are showing graphs of you know of the of the
warming, but it's just you know, over time statistics, you know,
all kinds of weird things that are pulling out why don't you
just say yeah, change can be negative too. Why don't they get
over it? already and just call the climate change negative and
say, Okay, it's cooling, whatever, it doesn't make any
difference. Why can't they do that? John? Why can't they just
go with the flow? That's what I would advise them? Well, the
problem is no, you can't do that. That's wrong. Oh, the
global coolest, which we're, which is 70. We are learning, we
are a part of the coolers. Yeah, we're a couple coolers. And we
think it's just an attempt to kill people
to what has happened buying bathing suits, when they really
don't know
you get them, you get it, if you can get an ice age started, you
can't stop it. And it's possible to get one started. And maybe we
may have done that. Hold
on. So how do you how do you start an ice age?
By cutting down on you know, cutting down on your co2 and
doing everything you can to do the opposite of you know,
this is new. I like this. Now, we
talked about this before, there's no I don't think we've
actually put Yes, yes, we have. Well, I
can assure you. Well, I didn't get it at the time, then. Now I
get it.
Yeah, it was part of that we would destroy we're talking
about population control, right. So in order to best way to do
that is to create a cooling water cooler, go go cooling and
freeze everybody. I kill them all. And oh, yeah, no,
no, that's why I moved to Texas. Yeah. Now I remember though, we
did talk about it. Yes, you're right
shake when it finally settles out. Yeah, that'd be great. Over
here, it's gonna be okay. So you don't want to reverse things and
put the coolest back in there that the thing is you can't,
you'll be observed and people can can make adjustments
properly. Instead of doing what they're doing now, which is
freaking out and start slowing down everything they can to get
the hopefully get the we knew this before in the 70s. They I
had all the documentation showing how we were headed to a
global cooling period, you just had to go back and read those
articles. And half the people that were involved with the
cooling are now involved with the warming and the other half
are still that there's a number of people. There's a number of
people that were involved in the cooling in the 70s are still
arguing for cooling. Yeah, well
that's like the the doctor that we had on a couple of weeks ago
with with all of his he was testifying in the in the house.
Yeah, I got a letter from one of our producers about that. Oh,
what they didn't? Yeah, he's a known whack job. You guys need
to read more material you don't read well enough. You're short
shooting the old global warming is gonna kill us all.
Yeah, it is. The response to global warming is gonna kill us
all. Absolutely.
Oh, anyway. Well, I sent him a note back saying you know, I'm
sorry. You feel that way. Just keep Donate. Donate more maybe.
Already. Science. Oh, I got a funny thing here where it was
it. Let me see if I can find it. Well, while
you're looking for that, here's a little clip you can play. So
the news our thanks to Bill and Melinda Gates. Of course. He has
the new news hour, half hour, the half hour the news hour,
half hours. That's done so Monday, they had the they
revamped the regular news hour to Oh, okay, and now it's like
Huntley and Brinkley has a full hour the News Hour. Yes, it
regular news hour that isn't outright good seriously. They
have this a Huntley and Brinkley set up real modern from the 50s.
And it's Glenn I full of Gwen Eiffel. And from now on is Glen,
Glen. Glen are at the they're there with each other and their
yak and knew each other and just like it's like a little report,
it's more exciting. And they've changed the set. So there's a
couple monitors behind him, because that's more modern,
do they 3d stuff going on?
And there's still no whooshing sounds in today's report,
none of that stuff yet. Yeah. It's it's forthcoming, though.
So here's the rap. This is the first this is the first rap and
then I have to describe what happened as they pulled the
camera
numbers on making sense. All that and more is on our website,
news. our.pbs.org. And that's the news. Our for tonight on
Tuesday, President Obama addresses the nation to try to
build public support for military action against Syria.
I'm Judy Woodruff. And I
went IFO we'll see you online and again here tomorrow evening.
He made it through the night we did on behalf of all of us at
the PBS news hour. Thank you and good night.
So when someone says that it means it was a nightmare to get
this thing produced has been gaslighted by now that means it
was a night
and then they do a commercial for the railways but then at the
very end as a pulling counter back the two of them do a fist
bump. No.
No, yes. No, though. Really? Yeah. Oh, that is so wrong in so
many ways. A fist bump.
Yeah. Guzman I feel sheep grant Glen Ross when she holds her
fist active for Judy who's looking at it. She's like
curious it's kind of you know, they're pulling camera back so I
don't know if she's winking and blinking but then she she gives
Do the fist bump. And then iPhone just goes crazy thinking
that's fantastic. No, yeah. I'm gonna just say, Oh bot fit fist
bump? Wow, let me just see I just said, Oh my god, this is
don't draw that.
Well, John from now on at the end of the of the best podcast
in the university you and I will do a fist bump. Yeah, bump. I
think we should I think we can totally
bumped the mic like this?
Well, no, we'll just do we'll just do a real one. So while
you're watching mainstream crap, I received a little clip from
our friends over there at the twit network. And I just thought
that was a was too funny. I have to play it. And I'm playing it
on Thursday. Because you know, it's Sunday. And when you're
going up there, I don't want to mess around with you. But this
is Leo. After you know, all the revelations about all the spying
from the NSA. And just Yeah, essentially, here is and Leo
isn't known Obama, but he hears his dismay and disappointment
and how he explains that in 15 seconds, which I just I'm very
proud to have this only cynics knew what was going on.
In some ways, this is what really pains me the most is that
the most cynical conspiracy minded people in this country
have been proven right. And that bothers me because I wanted to
believe in the government
fist bump, Leo,
I think I hope that we don't make it habit at this sort of
thing. Really ridiculing these, these Obama bots. What do you
mean, I feel sorry, I know I have dinner with them.
I have dinner point.
You do you do? I don't know if I could handle.
Let him tell you something. You know, these are my they're my
friends. We went to Marfa. Marfa, Texas, which if it wasn't
raining can actually be quite cool because they've got the
Davis observatory there. There's all kinds of you know, I want to
do some ham radio tests. But it was really it was raining. We
were there with Laurie Frick. She has an exhibit, which is a
big deal in October. So she's setting up for that. But guess
what, at the next dinner at the next obat dinner she is bringing
in you're gonna love this. Oh, she's bringing in a raise
bringing in a ringer a president of Hill and Knowlton.
Wow, aha, you might like to do almost like feel like playing
this clip, which I keep putting on here just in case we need a
real long clip, which is the lies that were used in
propagated by Hill and Knowlton at a committee meeting.
Congressional committee meeting was actually held at a Hill and
Knowlton office I found out sense that that got the Kuwait
war going and I'm was going to use it as a segue when we talk
about how there's the bully pulpit and the president can
achieve a lot and that's what George HW Bush did. No, George
HW Bush and everybody else use this this shill who came out and
claimed to see a bunch of crap she never saw. She was the
ambassador's daughter. And she went before Congress and lied.
This is about the kids in the incubators.
Yeah. And this is not under oath, of course, because they're
not idiots.
Well, I think we should play this because this is a good
setup to the dinner now. It'll be a couple of weeks yet, and I
warned Laura. Really? Uh, you really? You do know who I am.
You've listened to the show, haven't you? You've listened to
what I say about you my list. Oh, yeah. Oh, shall I tell you
something? You know, Mark, you met Mark. Right. You know what
he does? Yeah. You know he does for a living.
He's a I understand. He's a taxidermist.
Yeah, exactly. So he said to me, I did not short Raytheon. Oh,
you know, the guys listening?
Well, he might be listening. I don't think his wife is to
very much. Our final witness is also using an assumed name. And
again, we ask our friends in the media to respect the need to,
for her to protect her family.
Wow, this is all ready. I'd forgotten how good this is.
And this is you got to remember, every single thing is a lie. The
Rockies did not go into that hospital to throw babies on the
ground. In fact of testimony. They were the information that
came out later was 1000 Iraqis actually did go to that hospital
to help you finally call on
Nyira to testify. And he's in his Lieberman, who's doing this
setup.
No, no, no, this was some other guys. Sounds like Lieberman.
All right.
Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, my name is Neha. I
just came out of Kuwait.
My mother and I were in Kuwait on August 2 for a peaceful
summer holiday. My older sister had a Maybe on July 29, and we
wanted to spend some time in Kuwait with her. I only pray
that none of my 10th grade classmates had a summer vacation
like I did. And there were some time that could be an adult that
could grow up quickly when I saw happened to the children have
quit, and to my country has changed my life forever. As to
the life of all Kuwaitis, young and old, your children no more.
My sister, my five year old nephew, traveled across the
desert to save safety. There is no milk available for vaping
quit. They barely escaped when their car was stuck in the
Desert, desert sand and help came from Saudi Arabia. I stayed
behind and wanted to do something for my country. The
second week after an invasion, I volunteered I volunteered at the
ALA dine hospital with 12 other women that wanted to help as
well. I was the youngest volunteer. Other women were from
20 to 30 years old. While I was there I saw the Iraqi soldiers
come into the hospital with guns they took the babies out of
incubators incubators and left the children to die on the cold
floor
I think I think the ripping the heart out of a soldier and
eating it is an upgrade from this
I'm telling I do have to remember it as you're listening
to this this is a pack of lies
yeah she was the daughter of the ambassador right? Yeah diplomat
Yeah.
And she was apparently I guess she was taking acting lessons to
oh whatever the case
your award winning on audio video I don't I don't recall how
good
I do it. It was good. Yeah,
it didn't she she did the job. That's very this is do we need
to play more?
Yeah, play a little bit more. Right on cue.
I cannot help but think of my nephew who's born premature
might have died that day as well. After
I get to do it once in a while. I like the double sniff the
Double. Double sniff is the eye actually I think that's a tell a
double sniff when you think maybe
my my friends and I distributed flyers condemning their invasion
until we were warned we might be killed if they're actually
sauce, their size. We have destroyed everything in Kuwait.
This district the supermarkets of food, pharmacies and
medicine, the factories and medical supplies, supplies,
ransack their houses and tortured neighbors and friends.
I saw and talked to a friend of mine after his torture and
released by the Rockies. You know
if we're doing the show back then we would have said Who says
ransacked? No one uses that word we would have called bull crap
on this.
Well, yeah, that's it. She's reading every word of this from
a script. Yeah. She's not saying anything. She's not talking.
She's reading right was the sniffing in between. It probably
says sniff
sniff sniff
he's 22. But it looked as though he could have been an old man.
Iraqis done his head into a swimming pool until he almost
drowned. They pulled out his fingernails and then played
electric shock sensitive private parts of his body. I don't
remember that.
That's funny. Oh, this whole thing gets better. That's the
reason he was
like this before or after eyeball gripe the well this
isn't this is a 91 because that George HW Bush
that already pulled the shock to the testes thing then. Yeah.
Wow.
Oh, this is really an old clip. I mean, yeah, this is if we were
around.
It's a no agenda, classic clip.
He was lucky to survive. If an American soldier was found dead
in a neighborhood, they burned to the ground all the houses in
the general vicinity, they would not let firefighters come until
until all the ash and rubble was left. The Rockies were making
fun of President Bush and verbally and physically abusing
my family and me on our way out of Kuwait. We only did so
because life in Kuwait became unbearable. that forced us to
hide Bernard, destroy everything identifying our country and our
government. I want to emphasize that quite as our mother and
their father repeated, repeated this on the roofs of our houses
and quaint until the records began shooting at us. And we
shall repeat it again. I'm glad I'm 15 old enough to remember
quite the first lesson destroyed and young enough to rebuild it.
Thank you.
My goodness, and everything was a lie. Every single bit of every
at every aspect of that testimony was a lie. Think about
this was actually done in the basement of Hill and Knowlton,
there was a subcommittee of a subcommittee that Tom Lantos had
about which is still floating around. And it was a the whole
thing was completely rigged. Hill and Knowlton to this day go
out of their way to deny most of this even though the evidence is
stacked against them and they refused to actually say we're
sorry, because they got slammed by the old pump to do the PR
community itself. Once Once the word got out who this woman was
in and she never even volunteer for anything according to the
hospital staff she showed up one day for a few minutes and left I
guess just handling
808 All the Girl Scout cookies
she it's a whole thing was a complete fabrication a complete
lie with the little additions Oh, they're just they're making
fun of of you know, the Iraqis are making fun of your President
and yet you know, this little needless littlest assertions so
I can't
I can't wait to bring this up at dinner. This will be a lot of
fun. Hey, hey, how about about the got any babies and
incubators on the floor?
Pelvis, you can really you might kill your dinner thing going
with this?
That's no,
according you gotta ask him read through here. The wiki page on
this is quite good. And then you have the clips. So you I would
listen to
John. John. Stop egging me on. Are you insane? I'm not gonna I
gotta be careful here.
Let's just read the wiki page and then just drop a bomb in
there. And it just I here's what I would ask. I'd say oh, good to
meet you. Oh, Hill and Knowlton. Yeah, yeah. You know, I remember
that thing to do with that girl that the ambassador's daughter
with a phony testimony that she did? That was great. She's ever
apologize for that. No,
no, I think I'm gonna it's gonna be different. So we'd like can
you pass the potatoes? I think they've been incubating in the
pot long enough. Oh, don't drop them on the floor. Nice baby
potatoes they dropped on the floor that we're incubating in
the pot. Oh yes, I feel they're gonna they're gonna tar and
feather me and run me out of town is what's gonna
happen out of them remember this including that guy?
Hey, that's a classic clip here on the no agenda show it'll be
in the show notes at 547 dot n a show notes.com We don't promote
that enough also no agenda news network.com is where you can
always see a running tally of stories people who who put an
RSS feed in there I use a lot most of that is where a lot of
the stories come from. And and the show notes are generated
generated from so make sure you check that hope I'm cutting out
for some reason here. I have a clip. That is kind of a PR thing
of a different nature. And this is the Sharpton cabal now we
know how Al Sharpton works. In fact, you you have alerted me to
this fact. How does this typically work with Sharpton?
How does he before he was on TV? How did he really make his
money?
This is a form of extortion you find some sucker company you go
oh you know you guys aren't doing things the way we'd like
to see him done. I think we're gonna have a big protest over
here and I've also noticed never really donated to our operation
examine exactly and Jesse Jackson perfected this
right don't haven't they done some stuff together as well. The
two of them
Yeah, I don't think they like each other that much because
they're in competition petition. Well,
Al Sharpton has a radio show. And doesn't everybody these days
apparently. And so he's going after a company now you said do
you use an interesting word you said what kind of companies
would they go after?
You said like idiots No, no, you said something better some
suckers
sucker company here. He's He's upping his game. RL and he's got
some some guy on I forgot. I forget what his name is. But
here's what they're going after now.
They are no blacks on 30% of the Fortune 500 companies board of
directors.
Okay, that's an opening shot but who's he has to do does he have
in his sights
Apple where we spend a lot of money off.
Listen to this. This is great. Apple is gonna go after Apple
because of course, you know, all black people have iPhones, which
is not true. By the way. I'd say the Android is bigger and better
in American community. No, I know. Statistically, I think I
have the numbers that the African American community is
more on Android than apple but okay, he's taking it and they're
just going after Apple. It's unbelievable. You have
new Apple coming out today. No blacks and board of Apple no
blacks and board of Apple.
We buy a ball is Apple stuff. No, you don't and can't get a
bite. By we can't get a bite. Now. Today
the iPhone comes out
that is now of course produced by Apple. And Apple is one of
those companies. I mean, we do a tremendous amount of business in
our community with Apple, yet we're not on their boards, and
there is no evidence to do a lot of advertising, or a lot of
contracting in our community. Is that correct? That's correct.
And I think, you know, it's one thing to have the measurement
being or the people who are on the board. But once a person is
on the board, then it's really measuring four different things.
And the key is, what is the percentage of money that they
spend in procurement that they're spending with minority
owned businesses or African American firms? The second is
what percentage of senior managers or direct reports are
people of color. The third is what percentage of money that
you spend, are you spending with or directed to African American
media. And of course, the last is the board of directors. The
part that is so shocking is that Apple, which is probably the
best known of the company, basically strikes out against
all four they have no African American directors of the
company, they do little to no spending. In African American
media, they do little to no spending with in procurement
with African American firms. And as you as I quote you all the
time, the corporate board that called the board but the
corporation and executive right looks like the Himalayas,
because there are you know, the wider it gets.
The higher you go, the wider it gets. And this is this is such
an extortion racket because I don't think it's true. I do not
think that that apple that iPhones are big in the African
American community, the first of all these things are too
expensive for any poor community. Because that's what
he's saying. That's that's literally what he's saying. This
whole thing is
just started off with you know, Apple didn't pony up when we
asked him for some cash.
That's essentially it. It's it's really a disgusting racket he's
got going on. They're using race using race to extort money or
whatever he wants to get out of it. Really, really been
going on this has been going on for since the 60s, when Jesse
Jackson got the formula down Apparently, he's been rebuked a
few times. There was a story about what he went into some big
company with his with his angle and, and the guy laid down I
just drew a folder in front of him. And I think this had that I
think inside the folder was a picture of Jesse's, you know,
his illegitimate son and his and his mistress, that he had a
recall. Yeah. And it's because he apparently opened up to the
portfolio. The pictures walked the door. That was the end of
it. There's no real contract.
Well, I just I found that to be interesting, because you had
taught me about the extortion racket. And there it is, on the
day of the iPhone, the new iPhones. There we have the
racket going into full swing and we'll see what happens. We'll
see if he can garner up some kind of I don't think so because
I don't think people care.
I agree. I think he should have nothing but trouble unless he
pickets that's what the that's where the final result always is
they bring out a picket line and they then they get the local
media to go the TIC tock to the picket the picket errs, and then
they they got some Whoa, you know, this is a terrible company
because they don't they hate blacks. Yeah. And then that goes
on the local news, isn't it causes you know, you know,
little somebody on the board, you know, it was a You guys
gotta get it. What are we going to do about this? Well, let's
get into NWA. Here's the deal. Here's my prediction of putting
the Red Book. Alright. John Thompson. John Thompson. John
Thompson likes IBM or high end a decade of he's been around a
lot. Black, and he will be put on the board.
Ah, okay. That makes sense.
This is Oh, by the way, this or anyone black this list is our
show is our high tech. Here's an opportunity right now you get
into high tech because this extortion games not going
anywhere, although I don't see the new guy coming up, but
there'll be another guy doing it. His database has been
updated. So I did get into the executive branch ranks and then
start getting on boards. Because once you get to a couple of
Board of Directors,
you're good to go. Yeah, you're good to go. For sure.
You don't have to show up at the meetings.
You can you can Skype in a great gig.
Yeah, great gig.
All right. I got a couple things I just wanted to mention, which
I'm working on more coming on Sunday. First of all this
misdirection about North Korea very interesting. Everyone is
now the or that I'm sorry, everyone. I say everyone. Your
news media is talking about the satellite images they have that
North Korea has started they're young beyond young beyond
nuclear reactor and we're all supposed to be freaking out and
oh, boy that they're gonna make the bomb. But the real news is
being not reported or under report at best at the case song
industrial complex, has now reopened with North and South
Korea cooperating. This is in the Demilitarized Zone, which is
a few clicks inside North Korea. And it was that was close when
when, you know, under heavy tension, but now they have
restarted investment for more than 100 South Korean firms. Now
in this industrial park, and this is getting no coverage. So,
and I was kind of surprised, I didn't know that they were
cooperating, here's north and I thought they hated each other
and they're gonna kill each other and blow and shoot rockets
and kill. They keep that narrative alive. And I think
this is again, part of Dennis Rodman's mission is he's, again,
please the curry Devorah Consulting Group, no, we don't
have facial piercings. That's our slogan. By the way, let me
write that down. During Devorah Consulting Group, no facial
piercings. But we can have them if you if you think it'll help
the message. And then I received an encrypted note from one of
our producers. And I can pretty much not tell you anything about
it other than it looks like Kenya and this end. And I'm kind
of sad because he sent this to me on Sunday, and I didn't do
anything with it, because I was trying to parse what he was
trying to tell me. Kenya is leaving, or it will no longer
recognize the ICC, the International Criminal Court.
And there's been a couple of colonels who have been killed in
the past couple of weeks in Kenya. And he said, Watch Kenya,
something is going on. I'm not quite sure what's happening. And
then all of a sudden this water discovery pops up. So I'm not
sure what it is. I'm digging in as deep as I can. But there's
something going on with this water that was discovered in
Kenya and the International Criminal Court and it sounds
like economic hitman something all over the map here. That is
that is something's up in Kenya. So we're looking at that and I
guess this is kind of a plea if you have any more info send it
off.
Yeah, we haven't got enough people in that area. It's in a
weak spot for us. Yeah.
This guy is good though. He definitely definitely has some
some good info.
Just for your information. I do have one last clip I want to
play Sure thing, which is the tapping smartphone. So we're all
aware of this situation. We knew it all along because but were
those cynics and skeptics that Leo was talking about
another new leak from Edward Snowden. The German magazine Der
Spiegel reports the NSA has developed the ability to tap
into all the major smartphone models including iPhones,
Androids and blackberries
array notice he doesn't mention windows
may be the most secure phone out there.
It's got a nice camera, that's for sure is that the
Nokia whatever it is it in us still windows? Yeah.
Right I think well first of all, I want to thank everyone for
sticking with us the then the end sending the good karma we
had a an almost completely uninterrupted broadcast John,
this is first in several weeks, a month, several weeks. And I
have one final recording here. Did you get this from our buddy
Michael Butler in
San Francisco? Yeah, this is the this is the giant voice system
which is out and out in the avenues in San Francisco.
There's one over by the old MVNO offices but it's not like this
one because this picture this thing this is the classic
it's a classic with the four horns, the four horns and and
there's a voice it makes the noise it has a voice it's it's a
complete and training system
and the kicker is that has two languages and as you'd expect in
California it would be to tell me I'm wrong english and spanish
but apparently not though. This case let's listen
I like the warble
by the way it's a good warble.
This is a test. This is a test of the outdoor warning system.
This is only a test you got a real world game go
so was that Chinese or Japanese?
That was Chinese and I'm Wondering why is a woman the
chair I think the Chinese think
the Chinese have always have women doing their Yeah, I
was thinking that just right now they always have women do the
warnings instead of men.
And how weird is that?
Yeah that's every Tuesday I think Butler said
and you know this is gonna start coming through your your your
smartphone, which we're now dubbing slave trackers because
that's what it is just a slave tracker who needs the mark of
the beast when
you have the iPhone? is the mark of the beast.
I can't wait for the iPhone 666 Yeah, that's what it is. pot of
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