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And Bear is close to Adam curry,
John C. Dvorak.

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June 30 2013 It's time for your
gizmo nation media assassination

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episode five to six. This is no
agenda, officially declaring the

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C word to mean cracker here in
the Travis Tato in Austin, Texas

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in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry,

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and from Northern Silicon Valley
where it's sunny, beautiful, and

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I've decided that Martha Stewart
can't cook. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Hill.

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She's not too good at stock tips
either. I,

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that brings up the point of my
theme for today's show.

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Oh, what's that? Don't look.

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I noticed I'd have themes. Oh,

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I have problems. You have
themes. I

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got problems, but my theme is
liars. Oh, that's

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a good one. Isn't that our
theme? Every show? Yeah. Isn't

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that just like the other ongoing
theme of this program? I miss

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Mickey is out. She went back to
Amsterdam for her special

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projects she left yesterday.

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So get your pancakes.

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No, I didn't get my pancakes.
Exactly. And then I get to do

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everything myself. Grumpy.

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The whole show? Well, it's low
carbs. No carbs.

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No carbs. No, like, I'm going to
be great husband. And yesterday

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we have a we have water
restrictions in Texas pretty

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much permanent. So I'm like,
Okay, it's gonna be at night and

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me. What? does that even mean?
water restrictions.

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water usage restriction. But if
you're dehydrated, no, no, you

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can drink you can drink all you
can drink but it's watering your

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lawn. That's a problem. You have
a lawn? Yeah, we're on the

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corner. So we have quite a bit
of grass.

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Oh, and why don't you just to
recycled rainwater?

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Yeah, well, this is Texas. John.
What rainwater? Okay,

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go on with the story. Yeah.

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So So yesterday, I'm the great
husband. Because he is starting

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to turn brown. It's like it's
not looking good. Except for

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Greg into Texas. The grass is
frying except for what we had

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these big oak trees and
underneath the oak trees is

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fantastic. is beautiful green.
And so I'm, you know, it's dark

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out and I'm running around with
the sprinklers. Although they

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they they can actually, you
know, they look at your water

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usage bill. And and they will
come and bust you if they think

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you're using too much is not
even with the smart, the smart

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grid water meters.

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So what are they are going to do
to you?

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How they find you?

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Do they work you over?

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Yeah, with ugly stick. Now they
find you for that? Anyway, but

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you know, we're in a in a family
house. And so just the two of us

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like wow, this took a lot of
showers at this particular week,

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to three hours of moving the
sprinklers all around in the

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dark. And I swear to God, I sit
down and I string out the wire

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on the back porch for the new
little bit of hamming because we

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had a huge magnetic storm. So 40
meters was cranked up. And and

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boom, thunder, lightning, it's
rains after three hours of doing

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all this crap and it rained all
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Well, that's just the way it
works is to try the rain stick.

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No, but I'm thinking we should
we should do a rain stick for

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everybody in Phoenix and in
Southern California. How's it

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there with you? Is it is it
crazy hot is it? You think it

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from the reporting in Europe?
You'd think that Armageddon is

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upon us if they've taken this
opportunity for a little bit of

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what use what we used to call, I
think a heatwave. And it's like

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they're cooking eggs on the
street. They're all going to die

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Death Valley is is it Armageddon
agenda 21 Oh, this is global

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warming hits over. Yeah. It's
really it's really sad what how

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this is being portrayed. And you
almost would think that the

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president after announcing his
his climate change goals on the

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hottest day was wiping down his
forehead who he's so hot. He's

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so hot that they cranked up harp
or something just to just to

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prove the point, you know, just
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the President yesterday but did
his little show was little

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podcast, the presidential
podcast, which is that on

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iTunes, they if it's not talked
to the guys, I can find if I

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have some poll, I probably get
the present iTunes. And he

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essentially he repeats his
entire message that he did in

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his 4045 minutes speech there,
Georgetown University. He added

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a couple of things that I wanted
to highlight and of course, he

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does not disappoint by giving us
a hearty Hi, everybody. Hi,

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everybody.

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A few days ago I unveiled a new
national plan to confront the

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growing threat of a changing
climate. Decades of carefully

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reviewed science tells us our
planet is changing in ways that

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will have profound impacts on
the world. We leave our children

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that is a little new. What he
just said there decades of

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carefully reviewed science
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harsh. It's bull crap.

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Yeah. But to say that this is
this is so blatant. And this is

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an you have to admit, this is
the other Obama now, this is

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this is number two, that it's
like they've tag team that the

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first guy was tired and that
he's invigorated. He looks

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great. He looks tighter for some
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Yeah, he got a couple of shots
in him. Yeah.

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Already, we know that. The 12
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history. And we won't come in
the last 15. That's right. And

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the last year was the warmest in
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which doesn't mean it was the
warmest in the world. And okay,

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this global warming taking place
only in America.

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And while we know no single
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by climate change,

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this is this is so good. This is
the this is the hedge. He keeps

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putting that in there. So we
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they've had to go from all
weather is not climate, weather

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is not climate to weather and
climate are interlinked and bad

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weather is re related to
climate. Now they've got this,

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this is the latest. They have
been experimenting so much with

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the various domains to see which
ones will catch. Yeah,

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yeah, they've been doing that
with the language, very good

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science.

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We also know that in a world
that's getting warmer than it

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used to be, all weather events
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I love this. This is really good
language. He didn't say this

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either. In a world that is
getting warmer than it used to

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be. What does that mean? It used
to be last year 1000 years ago,

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10,000 years ago. What does it
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More extreme droughts, floods,
wildfires, and hurricanes.

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So we haven't had any
hurricanes. Why did you Why do

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you say hurricanes are not
tornadoes? I

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probably should have said
tornadoes. That was a mistake.

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no, John, God, man, you and I
know better than this did

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nothing is by mistake with these
people.

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This guy has been making a lot
of mistakes recently, I think

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when did it when did he give the
speeches after South Africa?

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No, this before he left? This is
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taped, pre taped.

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Those who already feel the
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don't have time to deny it.

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That's that we don't have time
to deny it. Yeah, there to Wow.

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That's a Jim.

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This is what he said this last
time. You don't remember my

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point it I don't remember.

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I'm saying we don't have time to
deny it. I know. He said that.

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By the way, the Flat Earth
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documentation that they're all
in on global warming. Yeah, of

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course. Yeah. It's kind of
ironic. It's beautiful.

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It's a beautiful thing. Uh huh.
Yeah. So yeah, no, it's we don't

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have time because what are they
what are they doing those?

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Apparently it's firefighters who
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busy

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dealing with it. The
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wildfire seasons,

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she This is a mystery to the
prompter. Did you hear what

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happened here? How he's just
reading and he's not even

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thinking anymore about what he
said he doesn't think now. So

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he's saying those who people
don't even have time to deny

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global warming because they're
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then he goes in and the
inflection is the firefighters.

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Like the firefighters are
denying it. Let's listen to it

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Oh, it's very poorly done.

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Probably worse. Firefighters.

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Oh, let me back it up a little
bit more. No, it's It's he's,

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it's just No, it's It's he. He's
not paying attention to the

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script. He's just reading by
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change. We also know that in a
world that's getting warmer than

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it used to be. All weather
events are affected by it. More

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extreme droughts, floods,
wildfires, and hurricanes. Those

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who already feel the effects of
a changing climate don't have

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time to deny it. They're busy
dealing with it. The

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firefighters who brave longer
wildfire seasons, the farmers

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who see crops wilted one year
and washed away the next

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these are the deniers apparently
dumb.

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It was poorly done. Yeah,

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families worried about water
that's drying up. The costs of

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these events can be measured in
lost lives and livelihoods, lost

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homes and businesses and
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in emergency services and
disaster relief. And Americans

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across the country are already
paying the price of inaction in

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higher food costs, insurance
premiums and the tap for

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rebuilding now

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and that's all I have. I didn't
record all four minutes of got

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five minutes. But that last bit
that he just said, where you're

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already paying the tab that is
directly from that, from the

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University that does the client
climate change communication.

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That is their line. That is
exactly their line is that we

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remember we read the documents
and it's like here's here's the

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here's what the new mission is
to say you're already paying for

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it. So you might as well pony up
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that'll lead to already paid for
payments or is it more already

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being taxed whatever it may get
taxed more? What difference does

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it make? You're already taxed?

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Yeah. So a lot of the logic with
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into something so we kind of got
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to do it. I got a note from our
insider. We have an industry The

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insider who really confirmed for
us that all of these wind farms

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and solar panel farms are really
concealing gas fired electrical

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plants. And he had somebody,
he's a lawyer, he has some

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contracts. He says, you know, oh
my God, all these contracts that

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I'm doing for these solar and
wind farms, they all have gas

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pipelines leading up to them.
And if you take that back even a

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little bit more, this is a huge
setup that we've seen. And the

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setup was for natural gas. And a
lot of these plants, mainly

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built by General Electric, I
might add big buddies there, the

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Obama administration. And of
course, NBC and all the other

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television channels, who have
been propagating this, they got

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huge subsidies from the
government, for building solar

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and wind farms. As a scam is now
obvious. We're just building,

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we're getting ready for natural
gas, that will be a part of the

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Climate Change plan. We're gonna
push everyone towards natural

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gas, get in now on the ground
floor. And I'll ask you in a

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minute, I'll ask you to give us
some ideas of what we can invest

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And by the way, we should
mention that they are literally

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bulldozing the coal plants,
yeah, pushing them down. They

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don't want to have them there to
restart them. They're gonna just

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they're just tearing it down,

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got another email from our
insider. And this brought up

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something that we talked about
three years ago, which I it's

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really cool how these things
come around, and what we already

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identified back in the day. So
the insider will just call the

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gas scam Insider. So another
energy related contract

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yesterday, Adam at first assumed
it was another solar contract,

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but instead it was for a fuel
cell technology that turns

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natural gas into electricity
using a quote, electromechanical

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reaction rather than combustion.
Having never heard of this

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before I looked up the company.
Do you remember what company

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this is? John?

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No, I don't I know the
technology. But I don't remember

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the company Bloom Energy. Oh,
yeah. Bloom, right. I do

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remember.

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And Bloom Energy was the
company. They had a huge hype on

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60 minutes. This was in fact, I
went back I pulled the clip

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because it was a member that we
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watching this at the window. Oh,
everyone's gonna watch this

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tonight. It's going to be
unveiled. It's the big massive,

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it's the fuel cell. It's the
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this has been funded by Kleiner
Perkins. Right, John Doerr. And

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so I wanted to just replay the
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yeah, the 60 minutes hype.

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That was unbelievable hype. And
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insiders communicate to us

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in the world of energy. The Holy
Grail is a power source that's

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inexpensive.

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Remember, this is three years
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this was being set up

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and clean with no emissions.
Well, over 100 startups in

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Silicon Valley are working on
it. One of them is Bloom Energy

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this was

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this was also before all of the
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the money was going into all
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their invention, a little power
plant in a box. They want to put

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literally in your backyard. Oh,
generate your own electricity

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with the box, and it'll be
wireless. The idea is to one day

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replace the big power plants and
transmission line grid. The way

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the laptop moved in on the
desktop, and cell phones

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supplanted landlines. It has a
lot of smart people believing

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and buzzing, even though the
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secretive until this past
February, when KR Sridhar

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invited us to be the first news
organization to take a look at

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the innards of the Bloom Box
that he'd been toiling on for

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nearly a decade.

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Now you remember this right
there was like oh, yeah, they

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had a little thing in his hand.
No one here. got that done. I

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pulled that clip too. I had to I
had to. It's also it makes it

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extra funny because he's Indian.
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it just hit crop.

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Or we've run a database here and
my hand is ready.

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This morning. What could this
power this could power a US

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home? United States House entire
house 24/7 365 something that

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small, maybe make it into
blocks. This is a European home?

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The to put together as a US home
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energy.

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you're absolutely absolutely
country four to six homes in our

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country.

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We need to need energy we just
need energy like up

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is awfully dazzling.

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It is real. It works.

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Yeah, only where is it? He says
he knows it works because he

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originally invented a similar
device for now. So he really is

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a rocket scientist.

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And I remember he looked into
this bullcrap.

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Right? And so where is his cube
on Mars with the rover, this

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invention

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working on Mars would have
allowed the NASA administrator

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to pick up a form and say, Mr.
President, we know how to

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produce oxygen on Mars. So yeah,
that worked out, huh. Guys have

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a goal. This was going to
produce oxygen so people could

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actually live on Mars.

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely. Absolutely.

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For NASA isolation and this will
you know, that guys, I mean, you

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have to calculate the cubic feet
of, of the atmosphere, or what

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would be an atmosphere and Mars
is just like ridiculous. To

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produce it from

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what, by the way,

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I want people to have a vacuum.

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We are not racist. We just love
making fun of silly accents and

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funny walks.

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Grab that Mars mission,
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in this case, racist or not
racist? This guy's a fake as

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a phony, but we're attacking the
entire peoples of India.

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Well, if they donate more, I
don't think

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I had an idea. He reversed his
Mars machine. So instead of

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this is I love this how this is
60 minutes, he reversed his Mars

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machine and came up with the
answer for all future energy

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making oxygen he pumped oxygen
in. He invented a new kind of

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fuel cell. Okay, so

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yeah, 20 seconds.

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Yeah, we I think we all get
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the idea was, it was not a fuel
cell. It is a well known

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technology, of creating energy
from natural gas, and you can do

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it but it's, it's it's one of
these things that it has to run

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for more than an hour, you know,
it can't just like crap out and,

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and you know, and he was making
it from sand on beaches and all

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this bull crap. So let's go back
to our email insiders email. And

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he said, he said he had not
heard of this company actually

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sent him this link and said, Oh,
man, it's too funny. I said,

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there's went back to the
contract. And notice that it

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requires confidentiality about
the actual performance of the

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device. So here's this fabulous
fuel cell that's going to save

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the world, but they want to keep
the performance of this natural

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gas slipper confidential.

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Well, you know what that means,
of course,

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sucks. It totally

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sucks. Yeah. It was it. Here's
the look at it from a marketing

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perspective, if this thing
kicked, total butt, and it had

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unbelievable performance, which
it doesn't, you wouldn't want to

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keep that a secret because it
did. That's your marketing tool.

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Yep. But you do want to keep it
a secret if it's a piece of

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crap, because keeping it a
secret is your marketing tool.

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But here's the here's where it
all ties together. So the

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President comes out, says
natural gas is the transitional

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fuel of the future as we get to
fuel that farmers will have to

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grow, which I guess would be
sugar cane and whatever it's

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going to be. And all of a
sudden, these contracts start

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popping up for this Bloom Energy
bull crap. It's cash in time.

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That's what's coming. Now.
There's $7 billion that

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depressed that's only what he
talked about, and what he

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announced, and all these guys
are jumping on it with these

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confidentiality contracts. So
it's going to be incredibly

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inefficient, expensive, and it's
going to be a bonanza. And

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finally, Kleiner Perkins will
get their money back because it

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was money out that's a couple a
couple 100 But they gotta get it

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out. They gotta get it back

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because the last piece of
article written about Bloom

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Energy in terms of a press
release was in June 4 just

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recently in 2013. Verizon to buy
bought Bloom Energy fuel cells,

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whoa, and why would this this is
like a minor story. But who else

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would run it but Giga ohm, which
is which is an Indian mafia?

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Yes, of course.

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It's time to do personal
marketing heat.

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So why are these companies
buying the Bloom Energy machine?

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Because they get a 35% tax
credit that's why Google got

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them

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okay, it's so there you go. This
is so this government scam is

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gonna roll out energy as an IPO
ie off big war somebody's gonna

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buy it, but I think it'd be an
IPO. Nobody in their right mind.

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Right. It has to be an IPO
because there's 400 million

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invested in this thing.

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Yes. And that's been IPO for a
billion more. Ladies and

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gentlemen, more than a billion
more than more than a billion.

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So this ladies and gentlemen
even though I do not give stock

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tips, sounds like a future short
to just live with it's gonna be

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dynamite.

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Buy the stock when it comes out
and just wait for it to go up

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Hiccup and then lose it hiccups

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then short the short the hell
out of it. Yeah, exactly.

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So we're gonna go okay, I think
you're right. I think you're

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dead on I think this is this is
a lead into an IPO that'll make

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Kleiner get cleaner out of the
woods, make the government look

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good. And make Obama look good.
And then he'll be out of office

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by the time this thing. Finally
craters

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the cool thing Well,

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maybe not even the coolest guy
you'd ever know the cool thing

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about all of this fail
immediately.

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The cool thing about all of this
is that the taxpayer gets

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screwed on both ends of the
stick and we get screwed when

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these guys build these phony
baloney fronts with you know,

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for for basically gas fired
turbans with a wind farm in

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front as a facade and look at
the wind farm don't look don't

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look at the turbine, don't look
at the turbine to look at the

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turbine. And and they're getting
huge tax breaks there we get

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screwed. And and then when the
consumer when the customer the

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big, you know, we're all in, of
course, Google hasn't Verizon

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has it. When they buy it. They
there's another tax break.

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Right, which again, take comes
out of our pocket. We got

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screwed twice,

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and then Verizon still send you
a bill.

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Yeah, they should be sending us
money.

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You want to hear John Doerr at
the time? Oh,

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yeah, like might as well be
created. Yeah.

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In October 2001, he managed to
get a meeting with John Doerr

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from the big Silicon Valley
venture capital firm Kleiner

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Perkins. How much do you think I
need to come up with the next

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big thing?

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Oh, that's my job to find
entrepreneurs.

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Not it's my job No, your job is
to make money for your limited

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partners which are not doing a
great job of I might know they

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have a really failed it's been a
continuum of failures ever since

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they went green. It Oh, yeah. It
was a huge blunder. Yeah. Oh,

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well, this is green green green
because he's you know, he's

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buddies with doors buddies with
Al Gore and doors over there

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selling his time all the time.
snake oil is carbon exchange.

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Yes, that okay. So, listen,
listen to it gets better.

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Remember, this is 2010. And oh,
that's my job. We're gonna

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change the world. We're gonna
change that's my job. We're

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gonna change the world. We are
the world

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and then help them

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help them by taking away all
their stock. Giving them

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nothing.

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John Doerr has certainly changed
our world. He's the one who

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discovered and funded Netscape.

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Whoa, crap. We discovered
Netscape. What does that even

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what does that mean? This is 60
minutes. Mind you on the Tiffany

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network? He didn't. They're
clueless. Discover Netscape,

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Amazon.

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He didn't discover Amazon.

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And Google. They got there late
comers to Google. Yeah, they had

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to buy a billion dollars worth
of stock to get into Google.

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They weren't they didn't
discover nothing. When he

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listened to KR the idea seemed
just as transformative,

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efficient, inexpensive, clean
energy out of a box out of but

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Google 25 million

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this I don't know where that
came from. And you can see his

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expression is like, Oh my God,
would you come over that number?

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We did a back room overnight
deal for a billion before the

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IPO? What are you talking about?
25 million. Okay, I'm just gonna

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shut up about it and make me
look good.

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This man said how much money

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at the time he said over $100
million. didn't smoke

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start coming out of your years
and no, no, that was okay. That

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was okay. So nothing he said.
Scared you?

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Oh, I wasn't at all sure it
could be done. But there

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was a selling point. Clean
Energy was an emerging market

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worth gazillions,

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gazillions? I just heard zillion
zillion.

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gazillion. Write that down.

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This is 60 minutes. John, CBS,
CBS. The Tiffany network

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apparently now has invented the
monetary unit of a gazillion the

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fawning of this. They are so
complicit in this bullcrap.

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I like to say that the new
energy technologies could be the

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largest economic opportunity of
the 21st century.

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Yeah. And that's what you told
all your investors and gee,

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How'd that work out?

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Was this your very first clean
energy investment? Yeah, this

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was the very first Yes. And I
forgot that.

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It would be funnier. You know,
it'd

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be better if you start off on
the wrong wrong foot and it just

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gets worse.

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Wouldn't it be funny if John
Doerr was Indian?

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John Doerr, I you know, I think
the funny thing is John Doerr

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has dealt the guy they used to
have there was they finally got

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there was a big battle royale
between him and door or the

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Indian guy.

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Who was the Indian guys. Oh, you
mean? That wasn't rom Sriram was

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it? No, no, no,

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no, this the real big shot the
big Indian guy, the guy who's,

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who's the biggest blowhard of
the mall.

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I don't know who this is. And he
was at Kleiner.

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He was one of the main guys
declaring he was about to take

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over the place and him and Dora
got into this huge battle royale

455
00:25:04,890 --> 00:25:08,790
of egos and he lost and when I
had to go off and he was one of

456
00:25:08,790 --> 00:25:13,770
the founders of sun, he got
kicked out booted out Vishnu

457
00:25:13,770 --> 00:25:14,850
Vishnu owner,

458
00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:18,330
Vishnu, Vishnu Boy, that guy's

459
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:20,160
just known as the Jewish guy

460
00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:21,510
of you know,

461
00:25:21,540 --> 00:25:24,510
coastal coastal Coast knows

462
00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:29,940
to call them Vinod when he got
into him and and Vinod is really

463
00:25:29,940 --> 00:25:32,400
really up there in terms of
like, he's got the right

464
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,790
degrees. He's got the right
attitude is very patronizing.

465
00:25:35,790 --> 00:25:36,090
He's,

466
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,750
he looks like he looks like a
like he should be on Star Trek,

467
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:40,770
almost like he has.

468
00:25:40,770 --> 00:25:44,010
Yeah, he looks like an actor and
he and him and Dora. Were always

469
00:25:44,010 --> 00:25:49,860
battling it out. And I won. Of
course, the company isn't big.

470
00:25:49,860 --> 00:25:54,270
But Vinod was probably the
highest end of these kinds of

471
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,040
blowhards. He was talking he
wouldn't talk about anything but

472
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,330
himself. Just amazing guy. He
could be on the show. He hasn't

473
00:26:03,330 --> 00:26:06,720
exactly he hasn't done anything
since leaving Kleiner Perkins

474
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,590
that I can tell

475
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:13,140
when we see career career career
2006 His wife co founded the K

476
00:26:13,140 --> 00:26:18,210
CK 12 Foundation aims to develop
open source textbooks. The

477
00:26:18,210 --> 00:26:19,710
Philanthropist how boring,

478
00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:24,300
open source proponent? What is
that?

479
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:28,500
They're also donors to the
Wikimedia Foundation. Oh, okay.

480
00:26:28,860 --> 00:26:32,910
So, if you see something nasty
about you, on your wiki, it's

481
00:26:32,910 --> 00:26:35,340
him. He's doing it.

482
00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:39,000
He's actually he's got an
amazing his ego is so big that

483
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,920
he wouldn't even consider
stooping to you know, anything.

484
00:26:44,010 --> 00:26:46,920
I mean, he would, he's the guy
with the with the big giant, you

485
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,680
know, he's the type of guy in
India has got the big giant

486
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,650
house a bunch of servants. And
they just think they're

487
00:26:52,650 --> 00:26:53,610
fantastic people

488
00:26:53,879 --> 00:26:59,429
really abundant and a whole
bunch of servants. Okay, in 2010

489
00:26:59,429 --> 00:27:03,689
Oh, so he's so he has Khosla
ventures, Tony Blair's on board

490
00:27:03,689 --> 00:27:07,349
now. So he's got here you take
al hor, I'll take Tony Blair.

491
00:27:08,579 --> 00:27:14,069
That's how to invest in clean
tech. And he also raised $250

492
00:27:14,069 --> 00:27:18,809
million for costless seed, which
will invest in higher risk

493
00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:21,809
opportunities. Damn, I thought
it'd be seeds That'd be funny.

494
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,430
See, he was selling sauceless
seeds let's let's see.

495
00:27:28,650 --> 00:27:31,380
So there's a scam for you just
want to make sure you understood

496
00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:31,920
it and

497
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,150
and note that we spotted this
three was three years ago. Yeah.

498
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,900
When it first showed up, well,
you can sniff sniff it out. It

499
00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:43,560
was just didn't make any this
things don't. In science, in

500
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,440
particular things may have
there's this thing about making

501
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,340
sense. And also breakthrough
technologies and batteries and

502
00:27:50,340 --> 00:27:54,180
fuel cells. There is none. I
mean, it's all fine tuning what

503
00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:56,100
was invented in the 1800s. Yeah,

504
00:27:56,820 --> 00:28:00,120
it's been around since the
1800s. Would you please explain

505
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:03,690
that this so called fuel cell
technology has indeed been

506
00:28:03,690 --> 00:28:06,600
around since the late 1800s.

507
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,530
Throughout the 1800s, but late
1800s. And the one for example

508
00:28:10,530 --> 00:28:13,650
of ones that that's the
technology is used in hydrogen

509
00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:17,130
cars. Oh, and by the way,
whatever happened to hydrogen

510
00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:22,830
cars and the hydrogen economy?
Where did that go? Well, how

511
00:28:22,830 --> 00:28:26,190
about anyway, so the fuel cells
that were going to be in these

512
00:28:26,190 --> 00:28:28,920
hydrogen cars and I driven most
of the hydrogen cars when they

513
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,340
were the prototypes that were
around? And they're horrible?

514
00:28:32,550 --> 00:28:35,130
And it's not like they're it's
kind of cool to have a car

515
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:38,250
running on hydrogen, but they
make it they work out they all

516
00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:41,550
work in the same technologies a
weird fuel cell and they run

517
00:28:41,550 --> 00:28:46,320
rough, right? No, no, they run
fine. Is the stream. Oh, and

518
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,960
it's apparently you can't do
anything about this. They have a

519
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,290
high pitch squeal that would I
think it would be banned it

520
00:28:52,290 --> 00:28:54,630
would for the if there was a
city full of these cars, there'd

521
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:59,940
be people blood coming out of
their ears. Okay, and and

522
00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:03,690
they're there, they still can't
get enough hydrogen one of these

523
00:29:03,690 --> 00:29:07,410
tanks to go to you because you
want to go three to 400 miles on

524
00:29:07,410 --> 00:29:11,490
a on a charge or a fuel cell or
a tank of gas or something like

525
00:29:11,490 --> 00:29:15,210
that. And they had to finally
get these things to get too

526
00:29:15,210 --> 00:29:19,590
close to 300 miles. They had to
use a tank technology that

527
00:29:19,770 --> 00:29:25,710
resulted in the in the hydrogen
gas at 10,000 pounds per square

528
00:29:25,740 --> 00:29:30,750
inch in the tank. No which means
that a rupture would blow the

529
00:29:30,750 --> 00:29:33,210
car to smithereens. Yeah,
nearby.

530
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:39,180
I'd be so exciting witness. I 35
and I was talking about the it

531
00:29:39,180 --> 00:29:44,640
has an actual word. What's the
word? The word the word barn

532
00:29:44,670 --> 00:29:48,030
burning cars gas Oh Jean, I
think is what they used to call

533
00:29:48,030 --> 00:29:54,360
gas gas. Oh Jean. In the in the
World War Two. There were tons

534
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,290
of cars and if you if you just
Google it just Google wood

535
00:29:58,290 --> 00:30:01,710
burning car. Yeah, they're all
lorry Oh my god. And there's

536
00:30:01,770 --> 00:30:05,640
some of them are really
beautiful. And there's just tons

537
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,470
of cars had these big burners on
the back burner and one driving

538
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:15,060
around. I listen to this has to
make a comeback. Well, it's

539
00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:21,480
getting there i I'm so a lot of
people sent me tons of links to

540
00:30:21,630 --> 00:30:25,020
10 kilowatt wood burning
generators, which I really

541
00:30:25,020 --> 00:30:27,720
appreciate that there's people
making these but you know, maybe

542
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,500
next time I have a spare $35,000
laying around, I'll get one of

543
00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:34,680
those. I really would like just
a homebrew deal in the pickup

544
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,990
truck. And there's tons of guys
who have done it.

545
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,790
You're in the right part of the
country. Those Texas like the

546
00:30:41,790 --> 00:30:42,240
weld,

547
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:44,460
they like to weld and we What
are you eating?

548
00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:46,860
I'm just eating a lozenge.

549
00:30:48,090 --> 00:30:51,750
Is your throat hurt? You need a
lozenge for your throat.

550
00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:58,050
Mild cough. Anyway, the one

551
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,710
anyway, I would like to wrap
this up by telling the peoples

552
00:31:01,710 --> 00:31:05,400
of Europe that we are not
burning up alive. Yeah, it's

553
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,200
warm. And I don't know. And I
don't know what this bullcrap is

554
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,080
that they're selling people in
Phoenix, they have grounded

555
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,130
flights in Phoenix, saying that
because of the heat, the

556
00:31:17,130 --> 00:31:22,500
aircraft cannot take off
properly. I happen to know a few

557
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:23,820
things about aircraft.

558
00:31:24,930 --> 00:31:28,230
Yeah, what is the problem with
I've heard this before that the

559
00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:31,650
it's sometimes difficult to take
off enough. If it's too hot,

560
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,490
yes, well, the air density
definitely changes and you have

561
00:31:35,490 --> 00:31:40,980
less lift. So this can be
obfuscated in a number of ways

562
00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:45,840
longer runway is a good one. But
I think Phoenix is plenty long

563
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:51,000
for what they're doing. I'm
pretty sure that you can solve a

564
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,870
lot of this with your weight and
balance. So there might be some

565
00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:57,960
some flights that might be a
challenge. But you really the

566
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,870
difference. It's the difference
between 100 degrees and 110

567
00:32:00,870 --> 00:32:03,480
degrees is not the difference
between taking off or not taking

568
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,630
off. I think something else is
going on here. And this is what

569
00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:09,510
we learned when we were on our
last Hot Pockets tour. And we

570
00:32:09,510 --> 00:32:13,980
went up to Wichita, and we
stayed with our buddy there the

571
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:20,580
sand. Was it to dune buggy golf
carts.com Oh, yeah. Yeah, dune

572
00:32:20,580 --> 00:32:23,880
buggy guy. And he told me that
whatever happened to him now

573
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,520
he's still selling dune buggies.
He sold a couple to some memory

574
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,200
sold some to like some a ribs.

575
00:32:29,070 --> 00:32:29,970
Yeah, vaguely.

576
00:32:30,810 --> 00:32:35,100
And he told me that the big
problem with the planes that

577
00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:39,870
they're building now, the
composite the composite planes

578
00:32:39,870 --> 00:32:43,860
that fly the plastic planes is
they start to melt around 130

579
00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:49,620
degrees on the tarmac. I'm
thinking something else is going

580
00:32:49,620 --> 00:32:52,440
on. I'm thinking that the planes
that can take off are the ones

581
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,960
with sheet metal and rivets and
the ones that have a problem

582
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,270
they have to move into the
hangar because they become

583
00:32:57,300 --> 00:33:02,700
unsafe. And it's 140 degrees in
Phoenix, is it not?

584
00:33:03,179 --> 00:33:05,969
I don't know. But I know that
ground temperature gets way up

585
00:33:05,969 --> 00:33:08,669
there. Yeah, it's horrible that
place and you think they put

586
00:33:08,699 --> 00:33:12,329
coverings over their parking
lots and things that No, you go

587
00:33:12,329 --> 00:33:15,029
to some strip mall in Phoenix,
you park your car outside, five

588
00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:17,789
minutes later, you can't get
back in the car. You have to

589
00:33:17,849 --> 00:33:20,729
open easy you leave the windows
open and you have to stick kind

590
00:33:20,729 --> 00:33:23,489
of reach it without burning
yourself. Start the engine and

591
00:33:23,489 --> 00:33:26,309
turn on the air conditioner
while you stand outside until

592
00:33:26,309 --> 00:33:28,649
the car cools off enough because
you can't even touch the

593
00:33:28,649 --> 00:33:31,679
steering wheel. And you'll get
third degree burns if you sit

594
00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:35,879
down. Horrible. Well, yeah.

595
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:43,110
There you go. That's what it is.
Hey, let me say in the morning

596
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:44,580
to you John C. Dvorak to you

597
00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:47,670
Adam curry in the morning to all
ships at sea boots on the ground

598
00:33:47,670 --> 00:33:50,730
feet in the water subs in the
air and all the dames knights

599
00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:51,180
out there.

600
00:33:51,210 --> 00:33:54,840
Yes, indeedy, how y'all doing?
And two are in the morning to

601
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,320
our human resources in the chat
room? No, didn't stream.com No

602
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,080
agenda, chat. dotnet already
bickering and fighting amongst

603
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:01,980
each other. Great.

604
00:34:03,810 --> 00:34:05,670
I love it. You get new

605
00:34:05,670 --> 00:34:07,980
people in the chatroom, like
daddy who don't know what he's

606
00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:14,280
talking about? Adam is he rated
helicopter pilot? He knows what

607
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,470
he's talking of. It's funny.

608
00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:20,939
Yeah, it's always that way. I've
I've always noticed that when

609
00:34:20,939 --> 00:34:26,159
you come into a vor somebody
runs into you in a media market.

610
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,549
So you're presenting your
information. And a lot of people

611
00:34:29,549 --> 00:34:31,499
have the backstory of what you
know what you don't know what

612
00:34:31,499 --> 00:34:34,979
your opinions are, where your
prejudices lie, your bigotry is

613
00:34:34,979 --> 00:34:38,009
and all the rest and they it's
all factored in. And you get

614
00:34:38,009 --> 00:34:42,359
some newbie who comes in and
they're usually blowhards, and

615
00:34:42,359 --> 00:34:45,119
they think they started trying
to lord it over a group of

616
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:47,489
people that are insiders,
essentially. And then they

617
00:34:47,489 --> 00:34:51,119
usually get shouted down and
shut up. Yeah. slaved for a

618
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,999
while. Exactly. Then they
finally get a clue and then

619
00:34:53,999 --> 00:34:56,729
they're allowed to discuss
things. Yeah. So I'm reading.

620
00:34:57,179 --> 00:35:01,559
I'm looking at I got a bottle of
And this is just an example of

621
00:35:02,099 --> 00:35:07,409
how this kind of works in more
serious venues. So I'm checking

622
00:35:07,409 --> 00:35:10,769
out I'm gonna auction off some
of my wine collection. And

623
00:35:11,550 --> 00:35:15,210
but I also have oh, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, hold stop,

624
00:35:15,210 --> 00:35:18,450
hold the front door. But you're
going to auction off some of

625
00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:21,150
your wine collection and you
can't just pass by that common

626
00:35:21,150 --> 00:35:26,850
just just lightly. Yeah. What?
Whoa. Hello. I'd like to be in

627
00:35:26,850 --> 00:35:30,420
how can I get in on this? You
don't own any of it? No, but I

628
00:35:30,420 --> 00:35:33,480
have I'm going to help you. How
can we get in? Oh, can we do I

629
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:33,630
mean,

630
00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:36,360
you just give it to auction
house or one of these places is

631
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:37,470
this you have a collection

632
00:35:37,470 --> 00:35:39,660
that's that you can give to an
auction house is the kind of

633
00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:42,000
collection you have. Like
Christie's.

634
00:35:42,690 --> 00:35:48,000
Yeah, Christie's and so stuff.
So it's hard times. Hmm. Well,

635
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,270
yeah, that's exactly right. I
gotta sell the wine. That's

636
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:53,670
hard. You have to turn over your
wine anyway, because somebody is

637
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:55,260
just that you never gonna drink
it. It's hard.

638
00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:58,860
So keen to hear this. This is
your collection. This is you're

639
00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:02,160
an archivist. You can't eat
this. You can't archive

640
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,200
wine forever. Okay. So anyway,
so I'm noticing I have a bottle

641
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,580
which I was actually received
under interesting circumstances

642
00:36:11,610 --> 00:36:18,540
of of Hennessy's, Richard. And I
didn't realize I always knew it

643
00:36:18,540 --> 00:36:21,270
was on par with the I didn't
realize what it's worth, because

644
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:25,500
the Chinese had been screwing up
the cognac market. Yes. So I'm

645
00:36:25,710 --> 00:36:28,380
reading about this boat with
this thing's worth and I'm

646
00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:31,290
reading about the the Hennessy
operation. And then the master

647
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:34,890
taster, and the people and how
they do a tastings, because they

648
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,660
can think about Cognac is a has
to taste the same, the panacea

649
00:36:39,660 --> 00:36:43,410
so from 1950 has to taste the
same as the Hennessy XO from

650
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,740
2020. It's got to all taste the
same, but then you have these

651
00:36:46,740 --> 00:36:49,650
master tasters who can blend in
so you have this consistent

652
00:36:49,650 --> 00:36:52,500
product. So when you buy a
bottle of it, you know, you're

653
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,300
gonna get the same thing. You're
always gonna go. So yeah,

654
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:56,610
that's what you're paying for.
It's not what you're paying for.

655
00:36:56,610 --> 00:36:57,480
Exactly, yeah.

656
00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:01,080
And they so but they are always
bringing people in. And this is

657
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,950
like a main taster. That guy was
who's I think insured for $5

658
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:07,290
million dollars in two or three
these other guys.

659
00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:10,380
He has a bit of tongue in the
business.

660
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:16,050
It's a nose most. And so as they
bring these guys in, I just was

661
00:37:16,050 --> 00:37:18,270
reading about this. And the guy
says, when you're one of the

662
00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:20,640
newbies, you're brought in for
the first time, you're brought

663
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:26,010
into the tasting click and then
you cannot speak for 10 years.

664
00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:29,550
Really? That's your
nondisclosure. You

665
00:37:29,580 --> 00:37:31,200
know, you can't speak at the
meeting.

666
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,160
Really? Yeah,

667
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:41,100
for 10 years. Wow, you shut up
and listen and watch the experts

668
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:45,540
do their thing. Wow. Well, then
you can say something in 10

669
00:37:45,540 --> 00:37:47,490
years. That's the way the chat
room should be.

670
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,820
A long way to go, but I like it.
A 10 year old can write this

671
00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:56,790
down. We have a 10 year
moratorium. I would like to

672
00:37:56,790 --> 00:38:01,680
point out one other thing. This
is a ladies and gentlemen, you

673
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:08,970
have just witnessed a black swan
event. JCD selling his wine

674
00:38:08,970 --> 00:38:11,490
collection is an economic
indicator

675
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,280
or selling you the entire
collection. There are wines in

676
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,950
the collection. And I'll just
tell you what to do. I'm not

677
00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:20,400
saying the word world's going to
burn but this cannot afford to

678
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,410
drink these wines. That's the
problem. John,

679
00:38:22,439 --> 00:38:26,189
this is an economic indicator of
epic proportions. It might be

680
00:38:26,579 --> 00:38:28,799
this is this is the tipping
point

681
00:38:29,490 --> 00:38:30,960
for my collection. I hope

682
00:38:31,020 --> 00:38:34,170
when is the when is the auction
taking are you doing this on

683
00:38:34,170 --> 00:38:34,680
eBay?

684
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:37,680
No, no, no, no, there's these
auction houses that specialize

685
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,620
in wine. There's there's a huge
infrastructure for selling your

686
00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:47,280
wine if you have the right wine
to sell right now. You know why?

687
00:38:47,580 --> 00:38:50,490
The right wine to sell for
example would be my I have a

688
00:38:50,490 --> 00:38:55,740
bottle just a single Magnum a
double? Two bottles of Latour.

689
00:38:55,770 --> 00:38:57,960
9091 has a bottle can

690
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,350
I guess the price of the Latour.
1990 without without googling or

691
00:39:01,350 --> 00:39:05,460
anything because I've had a
tour. And I would say that's

692
00:39:05,460 --> 00:39:13,380
going to be about it would for I
would say $2,000

693
00:39:13,980 --> 00:39:18,150
Yeah, probably something like
that. Might be more because

694
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:22,080
Latour 90 is considered one of
the greatest tours ever and you

695
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,710
only have one I have a bottle
and I wish I'm keeping and they

696
00:39:25,710 --> 00:39:28,440
have a Magnum is the Magnum I'm
selling.

697
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,290
Can we can I come over one day
and we'll just like go crazy.

698
00:39:31,290 --> 00:39:33,690
run around naked and drink the
other one? No, just like

699
00:39:33,690 --> 00:39:34,650
straight out of the bottle.

700
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:37,740
Nice stop. It's not going to
happen. Okay, well,

701
00:39:38,070 --> 00:39:39,150
I just I can dream.

702
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:42,660
You could drink a bottle of
something. I'm sure one of

703
00:39:42,660 --> 00:39:45,450
these. Oh, here it is. Here's
the 9090 Latour Bordeaux Magnum

704
00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:49,170
from cult wine. You still there?
Yeah.

705
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,600
No, I'm on the floor still.

706
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:57,960
Available for $2,500. That's
close. Close. Yeah, you work

707
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,550
that was actually good. Yes. I
can't afford to drink a $2,500

708
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:05,520
Well, no, duh. I just can't. No,
of

709
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,180
course not.

710
00:40:06,210 --> 00:40:09,480
Of course not. But I saw first
of all, somebody else can. So

711
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:10,110
there you have it,

712
00:40:10,140 --> 00:40:13,800
right? No, I'm sad. I'm sad for
you because I wish we could hang

713
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,860
around and drink $2,500 bottles
of wine that wouldn't be in

714
00:40:16,860 --> 00:40:20,820
afford it, that would be a nice
life. And, you know, the hookers

715
00:40:20,820 --> 00:40:24,870
are getting cheaper. And better
and better looking. This is

716
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:29,940
divorce law. So that's not going
to happen. However, we do have

717
00:40:29,940 --> 00:40:34,650
people to thank who keep us on a
fine diet of mac and cheese, as

718
00:40:34,650 --> 00:40:37,560
we continue to get by bringing
you the best podcast in the

719
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,730
universe. Value for value is our
motto. And we're going to thank

720
00:40:41,730 --> 00:40:45,570
the executive producer. We have
producers today and Associate

721
00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:50,670
Executive producers for show
number 526.

722
00:40:50,910 --> 00:40:53,370
And they by the way, get a
double producer ship that is

723
00:40:53,370 --> 00:40:56,700
correct. People will all be
producers on the July 4 Show

724
00:40:56,700 --> 00:41:00,360
which will be coming up this
next Thursday, when we're

725
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,170
actually working probably the
only people that show business

726
00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:08,580
work on July the fourth. We're
in show business except from the

727
00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:13,170
guys except for the guys who are
on these microphones. And now

728
00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:15,390
the fireworks demonstration.

729
00:41:15,660 --> 00:41:19,320
Dude, we are a two donation
segments away from being that

730
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:19,830
guy.

731
00:41:22,170 --> 00:41:22,890
Beautiful.

732
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,190
And now from the seventh school
district. And by the way,

733
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:33,990
tonight's fireworks are
coordinated with 95.5 FM.

734
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,430
We've got that going on here.
Yeah, of course. David Foley,

735
00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:42,900
the black Baron of Silicon
Valley came in with $603.13 last

736
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,320
Katz California nice in the
morning. Keep up the great work.

737
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,420
You can only be found here on
the best podcast in the

738
00:41:48,420 --> 00:41:51,060
universe. Please send some of
that good na karma my way from

739
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:54,270
David Foley, the black Baron of
Silicon Valley. Here it comes a

740
00:41:54,270 --> 00:41:56,100
heat pull of karma for you my
friend.

741
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,990
You've got karma.

742
00:41:59,940 --> 00:42:05,070
J Schmidt. in Utrecht, Utrecht,
Utrecht,

743
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:09,150
Utrecht, Utrecht. This is so
nice to have our Dutch producers

744
00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:11,970
but I didn't get a note. Did you
get a note from HJ? I didn't see

745
00:42:11,970 --> 00:42:14,580
one. I didn't see one either. I
were 567

746
00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:21,810
also do a good old dame Francine
Hardaway came in to help us out.

747
00:42:21,810 --> 00:42:27,090
She's in Half Moon Bay,
California. 33369. Baroness

748
00:42:27,090 --> 00:42:28,140
Foxtel. Oh,

749
00:42:28,350 --> 00:42:32,670
whoa. But did she just hammer
out a magic number and this was

750
00:42:32,670 --> 00:42:34,980
enough. Yeah. nasty girl.

751
00:42:35,820 --> 00:42:39,450
But Baron Vaughn stealth mode
here when you burn that

752
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,000
Baroness Baron. Baron. Yes,
sorry.

753
00:42:42,930 --> 00:42:46,830
How about some cooling karma for
Phoenix where it's 120 degrees.

754
00:42:47,010 --> 00:42:47,400
Yeah,

755
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:50,580
here we go. We're gonna give you
some karma and some rain stick.

756
00:42:52,650 --> 00:42:54,360
You've got karma.

757
00:42:56,250 --> 00:43:01,290
There you're gonna lion bemrose
in Everett, Washington. 33333

758
00:43:01,290 --> 00:43:04,320
You know, I think that he may
eat this came in through the

759
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,340
time payment system of one of
the banks. So he may actually be

760
00:43:08,370 --> 00:43:11,670
donating 33333 routinely

761
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:15,180
we're really wow that is
fantastic. So

762
00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:18,150
we have to look into Brian and
find out what's going on. Robert

763
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:20,640
Hegedus in in spring Texas.

764
00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:27,390
Well, you sent me a clip call me
so god damn it. He's $300 a

765
00:43:27,390 --> 00:43:32,100
night you have to call him sir.
Sir. Sir Hegedus and we got his

766
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:32,490
note

767
00:43:33,930 --> 00:43:37,800
I didn't see his note that says
emailed note. Oh, I thought the

768
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,580
email Yeah, they did have no we
had to clip on it. I got to say

769
00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:44,400
no, you did it said here's a
clip I want you to play Okay.

770
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:50,820
All right. Nicola, what you
played? Yeah. Nicholas raus.

771
00:43:50,820 --> 00:43:55,140
Inherent Sir Robert Hegedus from
now on. Yeah, well, hopefully we

772
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,070
get the part of the database
fixed. Nicholas wrought $250

773
00:43:59,070 --> 00:44:01,770
inherent Illinois. I think it's
time for one of those Multi

774
00:44:01,770 --> 00:44:03,780
Language ITM sequences

775
00:44:11,820 --> 00:44:12,450
There you go.

776
00:44:12,990 --> 00:44:16,350
So not a mystery video. I was
out of New Orleans California,

777
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:19,110
California. That's funny. We
should we need a new orleans

778
00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:21,690
California Louisiana. The way
it's going. It could have

779
00:44:21,810 --> 00:44:26,490
salutations had been a pre donor
since somewhere around show 350

780
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:31,050
series. But it finally self
actualized to full fledged

781
00:44:31,050 --> 00:44:34,950
donor. All right to you at 11pm
from LaGuardia airport after a

782
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:38,520
long day of getting kicked
around by US Airways culminating

783
00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:42,030
in my flight being canceled and
being told to eat mac and

784
00:44:42,030 --> 00:44:46,290
cheese. Now I'm stuck here
though. Luckily I found a flight

785
00:44:46,290 --> 00:44:49,590
home in the morning. In the
morning on a different carrier.

786
00:44:49,590 --> 00:44:53,730
Oh before I forget, please pass.
Toss a D bag shout out to the

787
00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:59,280
LaGuardia US Airways staff that
treated us all so poorly in

788
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,190
shots at karma. For me and my
similarly situated co

789
00:45:02,190 --> 00:45:06,030
passengers, we'll do that in a
minute. Okay, now in a general

790
00:45:06,030 --> 00:45:08,400
sense I'm donating today because
you guys work hard to produce

791
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,680
something that I like listening
to the show is funny, sarcastic,

792
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,200
satirical, weighty, well
produced and includes something

793
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,770
that very few news programs do
today. Lots of primary source

794
00:45:16,770 --> 00:45:20,670
material. I can't imagine how
much C span you both listened to

795
00:45:20,670 --> 00:45:22,920
regardless of the opinions you
hold your surely must have a

796
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,010
better grasp of current events
and policy than most anyone else

797
00:45:26,010 --> 00:45:29,280
outside of the Capitol. And very
importantly, your show makes

798
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,270
keeping up with current events
downright entertaining. Yeah,

799
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:35,640
there you go. That no mission
accomplished.

800
00:45:37,620 --> 00:45:40,140
Recent recently I was late for a
flight and if I opted out of a

801
00:45:40,140 --> 00:45:42,930
plane, he talks down he's got
some anecdotes about TSA and I

802
00:45:42,930 --> 00:45:44,910
think that's about I think we've
covered all we need to

803
00:45:45,029 --> 00:45:48,749
I do want to mention that Miss
Mickey once again, went through

804
00:45:48,779 --> 00:45:51,659
airport security here at
Bergstrom airport in Austin said

805
00:45:51,959 --> 00:45:55,469
sorry, I can't lift my arms
straight through magnetometer.

806
00:45:55,499 --> 00:45:59,909
No frisking No touching. Good to
go. system still works.

807
00:46:00,270 --> 00:46:03,630
Yeah, well, I'm sure will work
until we abuse it to death.

808
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:10,680
Robert Tennant if 244 47 in New
Zealand, longtime listener Deuce

809
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,040
club member 1111 club for two
years this brings me to check to

810
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,130
make sure you're still loving
love and this brings me to 80%

811
00:46:17,130 --> 00:46:23,070
of a knighthood. Not bad for a
cheap kiwi. Yeah, long lived the

812
00:46:23,070 --> 00:46:25,350
best podcast in the universe.
Apparently

813
00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:28,860
1000 people a day are leaving
New Zealand for Australia.

814
00:46:30,420 --> 00:46:34,620
Why? Jobs? Because they got rid
of Gilliard.

815
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,890
Well, yeah, well, there's that
but there's there's no work.

816
00:46:37,890 --> 00:46:42,510
There's no all the oil and the
gas stuff is all in Australia

817
00:46:42,510 --> 00:46:45,690
and people just the 1000 people
a day. That's what my my Kiwi

818
00:46:45,690 --> 00:46:46,560
girl here told me.

819
00:46:47,970 --> 00:46:54,630
Kevin McComb in Port orchard,
Washington 23456. I know I told

820
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:59,160
you I was sending this check in
the mail but life interrupted me

821
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,040
and find out my dad has cancer.
So I need an urgent font cancer.

822
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,890
On top of that I had my physical
the doctor found a lump in my

823
00:47:04,890 --> 00:47:08,130
thyroid. He couldn't find it
digitally. Although it sure felt

824
00:47:08,130 --> 00:47:10,800
like and I got John's email,
plead for help and fell Pay Pal

825
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,550
was the best method this time.
Adam since you can't make the

826
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:17,880
show tonight in Austin. I'm
sending you a link to the video

827
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,480
of her. Rachael Yamagata has
recently set in Salt Lake City.

828
00:47:21,779 --> 00:47:25,289
Let me tell you, so he invited
me to go to the show by this

829
00:47:25,289 --> 00:47:30,479
girl who was performing in
Austin tonight. And his here's

830
00:47:30,479 --> 00:47:34,139
his email, his email was you
know, it's not a school night

831
00:47:34,139 --> 00:47:36,749
because he'd be done with a
show. You don't have you know,

832
00:47:36,749 --> 00:47:39,299
some professor Obama bought
dinner lined up because you

833
00:47:39,299 --> 00:47:42,509
don't do those on Sunday nights.
No, it's perfect. It's right

834
00:47:42,509 --> 00:47:45,329
nearby. You're gonna love her.
There's gonna be tons of

835
00:47:45,329 --> 00:47:48,479
lesbians in the audience. I'm
like, Oh, you're hitting all my

836
00:47:48,479 --> 00:47:54,539
buttons. But guess what? I can't
go home. Because why? Because

837
00:47:54,749 --> 00:47:58,199
why? Because Miss Molly wood is
coming to visit for a three day

838
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:04,199
car. Well, she's got her son,
with Kim. And this Hey, Eli,

839
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:09,029
he's five. Eli, these women who
you'll learn to love. They like

840
00:48:09,029 --> 00:48:13,949
to kiss other women. Isn't that
cool? Yeah, I got a short

841
00:48:13,949 --> 00:48:17,579
picture of Mollywood enjoying
this? So I'm here alone with

842
00:48:17,579 --> 00:48:18,119
Molly.

843
00:48:18,750 --> 00:48:20,640
Oh, that sounds pretty risky.

844
00:48:22,170 --> 00:48:23,970
I hope I get in some kind of
trouble.

845
00:48:25,050 --> 00:48:29,310
Joe Biden marks to 644 in San
Jose, California, retroactive

846
00:48:29,310 --> 00:48:30,840
donation of 333 per month.

847
00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:34,170
I'm sorry. Sorry, I gotta do his
F cancer thing. Oh, yes.

848
00:48:34,170 --> 00:48:45,270
And also karma. Karma. That's
for Kevin. Retroactive donation

849
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:48,270
of 333 per month for every month
no agenda show has been on the

850
00:48:48,270 --> 00:48:51,990
air 68 months. I'd appreciate
some indie game development

851
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:56,790
karma for my new company. Play
pero and my first game space

852
00:48:56,820 --> 00:49:00,420
repair Inc for the ISO iOS
Android.

853
00:49:00,450 --> 00:49:03,300
Oh, I'll try that. That sounds
kind of fun space repairing.

854
00:49:03,330 --> 00:49:08,190
You've got karma. Good luck with
that. We encourage entrepreneurs

855
00:49:09,570 --> 00:49:15,180
Karen Edwards in Thunder Bay
Ontario to 22 with losing my

856
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:18,540
school bus driver job for the
summer becoming a producer for

857
00:49:18,540 --> 00:49:21,780
the show. Makes sense. Right? I
was hit in the mouth last summer

858
00:49:21,780 --> 00:49:25,740
by your listener. Richard
Garrett thunderbay. Last summer

859
00:49:25,740 --> 00:49:29,040
over the pipeline so he could
get credit for this donation I

860
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,800
enjoy and appreciate your show
and make sure my kids listen

861
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,210
each time so they don't become
mindless robots to the media as

862
00:49:36,210 --> 00:49:36,990
they grow up.

863
00:49:37,860 --> 00:49:41,190
This is great. That warms my
heart. Thank you Karen. Let me

864
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:44,430
give a little bit of job karma.
deserved that bus driver

865
00:49:44,460 --> 00:49:45,870
you've got karma.

866
00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:51,270
No gets out on Easter Friday.
That works out

867
00:49:51,570 --> 00:49:56,010
in Foothill Ranch California to
1212 No comment in there. We got

868
00:49:56,010 --> 00:50:00,000
a long notes making up for it is
Roy Pingel in New York to a

869
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,180
lovin Hey guys are better than
you guys are better than

870
00:50:03,180 --> 00:50:05,670
Mythbusters. Love your
deconstructions. But what do you

871
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:08,760
think sometimes it seems to me
that the US public can pretty

872
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:11,310
easily deal with the abstract
knowledge that is government has

873
00:50:11,310 --> 00:50:14,730
the ability to spy on everyone.
This knowledge remains a

874
00:50:14,730 --> 00:50:18,000
suspicion, a rumor and idea. The
public does not have to do

875
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,780
anything about it except maybe
use the knowledge in Cafe small

876
00:50:21,780 --> 00:50:25,770
talk or small group discussions
around conspiracy theories. And

877
00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:29,580
he goes on, I'm not seeing where
he's headed with us keep going,

878
00:50:29,580 --> 00:50:31,890
maybe something will happen. On
the other hand, when the

879
00:50:31,890 --> 00:50:34,350
knowledge becomes concrete with
documentary proof that your

880
00:50:34,350 --> 00:50:37,410
governments consistently Oh, I
see. What he's referring to is

881
00:50:37,410 --> 00:50:41,700
the is that we've known that
this has been going on but

882
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:44,880
because Snowden came around and
actually had a slideshow because

883
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,670
worried because the public at
large are idiots unless they see

884
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:50,610
a PowerPoint picture don't
believe anything we need picture

885
00:50:50,610 --> 00:50:51,240
pretty pictures

886
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:56,580
with with colors. Make me read.

887
00:50:56,700 --> 00:50:59,580
Now you really have to do
something that about concrete

888
00:50:59,580 --> 00:51:02,670
knowledge. Now you have to act
very few in the US public want

889
00:51:02,670 --> 00:51:05,100
to be in that situation. Very
few want to have the concrete

890
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:07,860
proven knowledge that the
government is criminal, and that

891
00:51:07,860 --> 00:51:10,980
the governing authorities are
criminals, and even fewer want

892
00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:14,430
to have to act on that knowledge
to have to do something, they

893
00:51:14,430 --> 00:51:19,230
will not be appreciated, if they
will not be appreciative of the

894
00:51:19,230 --> 00:51:22,080
person who has duly and properly
provided them with the concrete

895
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,360
knowledge to have to do
something. In other words, what

896
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,370
he's saying is Snowden is a pain
in the butt because he's made

897
00:51:26,370 --> 00:51:29,580
everyone actually aware so they
should be hung up and so should

898
00:51:29,580 --> 00:51:32,070
Greenwald. And I read it
differently. That's what I'm

899
00:51:32,070 --> 00:51:32,700
reading. The way

900
00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:35,340
I read it is you and I are the
ones who are going to be hung

901
00:51:35,340 --> 00:51:35,670
up.

902
00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:40,650
Well, minor players in this in
this Greenwald thing. Yeah,

903
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,120
peons I tell you. Yeah, peons
and all we do is just we're just

904
00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:49,140
I don't know what we do. Brian
Newman $210 in Cincinnati, Ohio

905
00:51:49,260 --> 00:51:52,440
without common finally Wesley
young tuner dollars in Warren

906
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:57,930
Pennsylvania want to thank them
and all the other donors we've

907
00:51:57,930 --> 00:52:00,570
mentioned later that came in to
help us on the Sunday show to

908
00:52:00,570 --> 00:52:03,240
beat to Thursday shows his very
poor by the way

909
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:05,820
Yeah, but this is great because
everyone who came in today gets

910
00:52:05,820 --> 00:52:10,860
it gets the double producer ship
and it I think with this trick

911
00:52:10,860 --> 00:52:14,070
that you blatantly played on
everyone you this trinket you

912
00:52:14,070 --> 00:52:15,720
strung you hung out Friday

913
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:17,850
just to produce your ship and
are worth their weight in gold

914
00:52:17,850 --> 00:52:19,560
little bit of metadata mirror
magic.

915
00:52:19,590 --> 00:52:21,840
Yeah, well, it's good because we
have a huge

916
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,440
list on Sunday. The fourth yeah,
by the way, everyone who donated

917
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,850
on Thursday will be understand

918
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,940
seamless, seamless, thank you so
much. Yeah, we

919
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:33,420
want to remind you to go to
deloitte.org/slash and a Joan of

920
00:52:33,420 --> 00:52:36,420
arc.com/na no agenda show no
agenda nation.com There's a

921
00:52:36,450 --> 00:52:39,720
Donate button. And we do have a
show coming up on the Fourth of

922
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:43,830
July where the two of us the
only two in show business. We'll

923
00:52:43,830 --> 00:52:46,560
be working on the Fourth of July
which proves

924
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,780
we are actually in show
business. This is the part I

925
00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:52,650
liked the most about what you're
saying here. Yes, please go to

926
00:52:52,950 --> 00:53:01,440
boy show.org/and And I want you
to close your eyes. No, no John,

927
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,620
please. No don't notice don't
just I'm doing some programming

928
00:53:04,620 --> 00:53:09,930
here. Okay, go I want to close
your eyes. Okay, now I'm going

929
00:53:09,930 --> 00:53:14,430
to ask you to open your eyes.
And I want you to look at the

930
00:53:14,430 --> 00:53:18,210
first thing that you see I want
you to read so if you're in the

931
00:53:18,210 --> 00:53:22,170
car, it may be a stop sign. It
may be a traffic light and maybe

932
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,530
a car in front of you just
whatever it is. Okay, ready? 123

933
00:53:25,530 --> 00:53:26,160
and open

934
00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:38,670
Okay, now hopefully every single
time you see the STOP sign

935
00:53:38,670 --> 00:53:39,810
you'll think of that song.

936
00:53:40,589 --> 00:53:42,479
Why would you want somebody to
think of that song?

937
00:53:42,750 --> 00:53:44,760
I want them to think about it a
lot. Do you? Did you hear the

938
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:45,210
song?

939
00:53:45,419 --> 00:53:47,669
No, it's all breaking up. So
breaky.

940
00:53:57,030 --> 00:54:03,000
33339 l Ciriaco. What was the
what's the what's the zip code?

941
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,350
94530339

942
00:54:07,950 --> 00:54:09,210
l Ciriaco.

943
00:54:10,650 --> 00:54:14,160
Well, that reminds me I've
caught again the other day with

944
00:54:15,420 --> 00:54:19,050
DD Dinah, give me Oh, deeming it
into the house.

945
00:54:20,370 --> 00:54:24,690
Thank you very much Ryan
Santangelo for, for bringing us

946
00:54:24,690 --> 00:54:27,060
that and thank you all very
much. And of course you can

947
00:54:27,090 --> 00:54:30,900
always go out and help us by
well propagating our formula.

948
00:54:31,740 --> 00:54:36,450
Our formula is this we go out
for hit people in the mouth

949
00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:58,080
yay, yay. Yay wow that's a good
group. Good group. Yeah, very,

950
00:54:58,110 --> 00:55:00,360
very good group. Thank you those
of course we're also Official

951
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,290
credits which means they are
good in the in the world of show

952
00:55:04,290 --> 00:55:06,900
business. You can use it
anywhere you can flash it cards

953
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:08,760
excuse me, executive producer.

954
00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:11,070
I have a question ask Adam.

955
00:55:11,490 --> 00:55:14,310
Okay, do I need to play the
jingle or do you trust me?

956
00:55:15,150 --> 00:55:18,600
The jingle we don't need Well
Are you sure? It does she have a

957
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:19,170
new one?

958
00:55:19,650 --> 00:55:24,870
No, no no I have the short ones
as Adam Yeah.

959
00:55:25,110 --> 00:55:28,290
Okay. blade this is a clip we've
had before and we're gonna play

960
00:55:28,290 --> 00:55:31,350
it again oh play play the
clapper says No way.

961
00:55:32,010 --> 00:55:35,400
Okay, you know, clapper I think
is with a C but I'll let you

962
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,210
slide today.

963
00:55:37,980 --> 00:55:41,370
So what I wanted to see is if
you could give me a yes or no

964
00:55:41,370 --> 00:55:46,680
answer to the question. Does the
NSA collect any type of data at

965
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:52,500
all on millions or hundreds of
millions of Americans? No sir.

966
00:55:53,790 --> 00:55:54,510
It does not

967
00:55:54,540 --> 00:55:57,270
no data not wittingly.

968
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:03,630
There are cases where they could
inadvertently perhaps collect

969
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:07,200
but not not wittingly baby I
didn't it didn't happen

970
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,600
wittingly just kind of slipped
up a little bit. I'm sorry.

971
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,430
So the question for you is why
isn't this guy brought in front

972
00:56:14,430 --> 00:56:16,380
of Congress on charges of
perjury

973
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:18,660
Well, that would make no sense.

974
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,710
He perjured himself he lied that
was a lie is a blatant lies. He

975
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:23,490
admitted it later.

976
00:56:23,490 --> 00:56:24,420
Yeah. Well, I mean,

977
00:56:24,450 --> 00:56:27,690
do you expect me to I'm just
wondering why because a day from

978
00:56:27,690 --> 00:56:33,090
true Martha Stewart in jail.
Yeah. For less for less than

979
00:56:33,090 --> 00:56:36,090
this. What is it right in front
of Congress, a bold faced lie

980
00:56:36,540 --> 00:56:39,420
there but clearly

981
00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:43,170
use their contempt of Congress.
I'm asking you tell me what you

982
00:56:43,170 --> 00:56:46,950
explain it to me. I just trying
to understand from my by my

983
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:48,630
constitutional expert here, you

984
00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:51,450
Oh, Rob. Well, thank you very
much for recognizing my years of

985
00:56:51,450 --> 00:56:56,100
study. This is of course,
because, you know, birds of a

986
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:59,790
feather flock together. They're
all criminals and crooks, and

987
00:56:59,790 --> 00:57:02,070
they're not going to make any
stink, all they need to do is

988
00:57:02,070 --> 00:57:06,210
just, you know, kill a
celebrity. Or, you know, brings,

989
00:57:06,510 --> 00:57:11,550
Hey, call up the globe, and tell
them that, that Michael Jackson,

990
00:57:11,550 --> 00:57:15,390
like, had sex with 25 kids that
are keep them busy for a while.

991
00:57:16,260 --> 00:57:18,870
Because they're all criminal.
That's why this is what's going

992
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:22,170
on. Constitutionally, of course,
they should be thrown out. We

993
00:57:22,170 --> 00:57:26,310
should have pitchforks and
shotguns and we should be on the

994
00:57:26,310 --> 00:57:29,100
Mall in Washington, DC. We
shouldn't be calling for their

995
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:33,270
heads to be chopped off. But
again, you know, the the the

996
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:37,830
nature of show business is just
too appealing. We are distracted

997
00:57:37,830 --> 00:57:42,180
by way too many things. The New
York Times. Did you read the

998
00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:47,640
opinion piece by any by any
chance that came out? Yesterday?

999
00:57:48,090 --> 00:57:52,920
I was blown away by the New York
Times saying it is criminal. The

1000
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,360
Obama administration has
overstepped their constitutional

1001
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:58,590
boundaries.

1002
00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:59,970
Yeah, of course I read this.

1003
00:58:00,150 --> 00:58:02,880
And but then they said but the
American public just goes and

1004
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,090
live. The New York Times wrote
the American public goes mad.

1005
00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:09,990
Mad Men were to use the word
they use in the article The New

1006
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:16,620
York Times. Yeah. So there's
your answer, man. United States

1007
00:58:16,620 --> 00:58:17,820
of America.

1008
00:58:18,810 --> 00:58:22,350
No, but it's very important to
have Lindsay Lohan find justice.

1009
00:58:22,380 --> 00:58:23,460
Yeah.

1010
00:58:24,030 --> 00:58:29,700
Course. I liked that. United
States a man Rica. That's where

1011
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:35,820
we are. When I did you see by
any chance, John, the interview

1012
00:58:36,180 --> 00:58:43,050
with Charlie Rose, and am I
five? No. Okay, well, am I

1013
00:58:43,410 --> 00:58:50,130
jealous? Am I five is of course,
the guardian. The Brits. Now

1014
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,790
here's, here's it hit me when I
saw this. And you've really got

1015
00:58:53,790 --> 00:58:58,350
to get on the Charlie rose tip.
Because people think that this

1016
00:58:58,350 --> 00:59:01,860
is they're talking to an elite
audience to go on the show like,

1017
00:59:02,010 --> 00:59:06,870
and Charlie Rose thinks that
he's asking all the right hard,

1018
00:59:07,140 --> 00:59:08,100
elite questions.

1019
00:59:08,490 --> 00:59:11,070
And we've tracked him before and
we find him asking a lot of

1020
00:59:11,070 --> 00:59:12,180
leading questions.

1021
00:59:12,180 --> 00:59:15,750
He's totally he's a handler, he
is a handler. But what's

1022
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:20,970
interesting is that people say
things that never you know, it's

1023
00:59:21,150 --> 00:59:24,870
it's like an insider's club.
Because no one has, it's you.

1024
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:28,200
It's hard to wear Charlie Rose
is almost as hard to watch a C

1025
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,950
span. He is in the level of
paint drying when it comes to

1026
00:59:31,950 --> 00:59:37,800
the show. So now he has the two
editors on from The Guardian.

1027
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:42,000
And the first thing that strikes
me is Oh, my God, you know, this

1028
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,180
whole thing, the Snowden thing,
which of course we know. There's

1029
00:59:45,180 --> 00:59:51,480
messaging, there's fractions
warring internally. This is this

1030
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:56,070
is the Mi five has been setting
us up for this. And I'll play

1031
00:59:56,220 --> 01:00:00,420
just a little bit of these two
Brits and just do It makes you

1032
01:00:00,420 --> 01:00:04,350
sick to your stomach that What
did he go away with? The Brits

1033
01:00:04,350 --> 01:00:07,020
already? Is getting out of our
country.

1034
01:00:07,020 --> 01:00:10,800
I need to premise better because
you'd said there's no mi five

1035
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,090
person here though, technically,
technically, maybe not. We have

1036
01:00:15,090 --> 01:00:18,270
two British editors from The
Guardian. They Well, I

1037
01:00:18,270 --> 01:00:22,530
would say one is mi five and the
other is the editor who the

1038
01:00:22,530 --> 01:00:26,820
handler who worked with with
Glenn, who then work with

1039
01:00:26,820 --> 01:00:30,360
Snowden, but the big reveal is
coming after this love setup,

1040
01:00:30,690 --> 01:00:33,660
future remains unclear.
Meanwhile, the revelations

1041
01:00:33,690 --> 01:00:36,570
continue. Today, The Guardian
reported that the National

1042
01:00:36,570 --> 01:00:38,280
Treasury agency had been
collected again, this

1043
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,490
is the guardian. So Charlie Rose
doesn't even go to the

1044
01:00:41,490 --> 01:00:45,000
Washington Post. He goes to the
guardian in

1045
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:49,080
America's bulk email data for a
decade. Joining me now the

1046
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,110
editors under whose watch the
leaks became public. Janine

1047
01:00:52,110 --> 01:00:55,350
Gibson is the US editor of The
Guardian. Alan Rusbridger is the

1048
01:00:55,350 --> 01:00:58,710
paper's Editor in Chief, I am
pleased to have them here at

1049
01:00:58,710 --> 01:01:01,980
this table. Welcome. So my
question here, and I have no

1050
01:01:01,980 --> 01:01:06,120
more questions. What does the
Guardian know? Oh,

1051
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:08,760
maybe you'll tell me?

1052
01:01:09,750 --> 01:01:12,780
Well, we we have we have more
material,

1053
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,050
listen to this guy. Listen to
what he's saying very closely to

1054
01:01:16,050 --> 01:01:17,430
the words we have more material,

1055
01:01:17,460 --> 01:01:20,400
and we're doing what a news
organization should do, which is

1056
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:26,340
to sift through it. And I think
the reason that Snowden gave it

1057
01:01:26,340 --> 01:01:30,090
to a news organization is he
felt that this whole area of

1058
01:01:30,090 --> 01:01:34,110
oversight, this debate about the
boundaries between security and

1059
01:01:34,110 --> 01:01:39,150
privacy is not he thinks safe in
the hands of the people who

1060
01:01:39,150 --> 01:01:40,590
should be doing okay, stop

1061
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:47,160
right there. You're telling me
that Snowden felt that the

1062
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:52,470
debate which was not going on
that the debate about privacy

1063
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:56,310
and security was not in the
right hands? Ah, that is a

1064
01:01:56,310 --> 01:02:00,630
psychological operation. This
guy is playing right there. That

1065
01:02:00,630 --> 01:02:06,030
is bullcrap. The debate came
after these documents came out.

1066
01:02:06,450 --> 01:02:10,470
That's not why Snowden said, oh,
oh, I don't know if the balance

1067
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:13,800
is right. If that's the right in
the right hands. This is coming

1068
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,640
from the guardian. John, am I am
I imagining things here?

1069
01:02:17,940 --> 01:02:19,890
I keep playing that this is
interesting.

1070
01:02:19,950 --> 01:02:25,260
So the the, the judicial Well, I
think that's the debate we have

1071
01:02:25,260 --> 01:02:25,650
to have.

1072
01:02:26,430 --> 01:02:29,220
What is this? Oh, who does he
wouldn't mean debate we have to

1073
01:02:29,220 --> 01:02:31,740
have who are we chemo saw they
get the eff out?

1074
01:02:32,460 --> 01:02:34,890
And I offended debate that was
suggested by the President,

1075
01:02:34,890 --> 01:02:37,740
although I'm not sure. But I
think we know a lot more

1076
01:02:37,740 --> 01:02:42,000
than we did a month ago. And he
thinks that Congress has been

1077
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,770
misled, and that the courts that
are doing this are secret and

1078
01:02:46,770 --> 01:02:50,460
are effectively rubber stamp
courts. That's his opinion. And

1079
01:02:50,460 --> 01:02:53,040
so are you saying here's a news
organization, I will give it to

1080
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,150
you I want you to act
responsibly and put things into

1081
01:02:57,150 --> 01:02:59,640
the public domain that you think
should really

1082
01:02:59,940 --> 01:03:04,890
really he went to the witch he
did not we know that he did not

1083
01:03:04,890 --> 01:03:09,720
go to the Guardian. He was
approached by the filmmaker Leni

1084
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:14,580
Riefenstahl and whatever her
name is, and she then went to

1085
01:03:14,580 --> 01:03:16,590
the Guardian and to the post so
this guy he

1086
01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:20,340
I think he went to the post
earlier and they just sat on it

1087
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,520
right and correct correct. And
it wasn't until Greenwald

1088
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,580
started doing stuff that the
post brought their stuff out but

1089
01:03:26,580 --> 01:03:30,060
it came via the main maker
whatever the case was, they were

1090
01:03:30,060 --> 01:03:30,840
getting nowhere

1091
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:34,590
so this guy but this guy is
lying. And he's saying he wanted

1092
01:03:34,590 --> 01:03:37,920
to be in the safe hands was

1093
01:03:38,250 --> 01:03:39,960
to be none of it. Okay, here's

1094
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,200
what I understand that you call
him up because

1095
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,610
so now he's talking to the the
woman who is besides she's moist

1096
01:03:47,610 --> 01:03:52,530
she's beside herself with how
awesome she is and she's Glenn

1097
01:03:52,530 --> 01:03:53,730
Greenwald's editor

1098
01:03:54,390 --> 01:03:57,420
and said have a little story I
need to talk about I'm gonna

1099
01:03:57,420 --> 01:03:59,070
actually I texted him you texted

1100
01:04:05,250 --> 01:04:13,440
I'm sure muttered. He said
telephone. So John, did you

1101
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,440
catch that little ditty she
threw out there very good

1102
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:17,550
hilarious

1103
01:04:18,930 --> 01:04:22,140
said we have a little story that
we might want have a chat about.

1104
01:04:23,940 --> 01:04:28,680
I got a story on chat about
getting toxic students over

1105
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:29,190
combat.

1106
01:04:30,180 --> 01:04:36,240
At that point I understood from
Glenn that he had significant

1107
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,050
amount Glenn Greenwald right yes
that he had a significant amount

1108
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:40,380
of

1109
01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:42,180
no getting Campbell What were
you

1110
01:04:46,140 --> 01:04:48,900
that was an unnecessary
interruption to make yourself

1111
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:52,260
look knowledgeable on the topic.
The interviewers do this a lot.

1112
01:04:52,890 --> 01:04:57,300
It's like throw out a non
sequitur completely irrelevant

1113
01:04:57,300 --> 01:05:00,840
to the everyone knows that the
Glenn Greenwald book Greenwald I

1114
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,400
do my homework. Yeah, place

1115
01:05:02,610 --> 01:05:04,680
extremely secret material.

1116
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,560
It's like Bono. Oh, you mean
have you to? Yeah, thank you.

1117
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:12,810
And the broad the very broad
brush of of what it was. And of

1118
01:05:12,810 --> 01:05:15,120
course, what we didn't know at
that point was whether it was

1119
01:05:15,930 --> 01:05:19,320
verified whether we could verify
the source. And we were

1120
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,160
communicating by phone, which is
the story. If nothing else

1121
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,590
shows, that's not a great way to
be communicating. One of the

1122
01:05:25,590 --> 01:05:28,260
great challenges of this story
has been, how you can

1123
01:05:28,260 --> 01:05:31,830
communicate with reporters in
many time zones, when you can't

1124
01:05:31,830 --> 01:05:32,910
really communicate by phone.

1125
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:35,970
That's not what the story was
about. I'm sorry, that was the

1126
01:05:35,970 --> 01:05:39,450
previous story of the AP
reporters being spied on. So

1127
01:05:39,450 --> 01:05:40,890
this is not your story. But
okay,

1128
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:45,360
so he got on the plane, and came
to New York, and we had a look

1129
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,160
through sort of sample,

1130
01:05:47,730 --> 01:05:52,170
a sample or sample was his
showing like swatches of

1131
01:05:52,170 --> 01:05:52,890
clothing,

1132
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:57,030
which turned out to be the 41
page prison presentation, looked

1133
01:05:57,030 --> 01:05:59,790
at that and thought, well,
that's quite a big story, if it

1134
01:05:59,790 --> 01:06:02,070
turns out to be true. Oh,
interesting.

1135
01:06:02,070 --> 01:06:05,220
If it turns out to be true,
which, of course, has not really

1136
01:06:05,220 --> 01:06:08,040
been verified, and they really
did no business verifying it. So

1137
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,460
she goes on a little bit with
that. But here's where it blew

1138
01:06:11,460 --> 01:06:15,540
me away. And I don't understand
why this is not front page, New

1139
01:06:15,540 --> 01:06:18,570
York Times? Well, of course, I
do. But that would be an ask

1140
01:06:18,570 --> 01:06:26,580
John will be silly. When Julian
Assange J went to wikiHow. With

1141
01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:29,730
WikiLeaks, when Bradley Manning
went to Julian Assange, J and

1142
01:06:29,730 --> 01:06:34,860
WikiLeaks, what did WikiLeaks do
with the material? Did they a

1143
01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:39,720
publish everything in a fine
database format? So the entire

1144
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:45,240
world could download it and take
a look at it? No, or? Or did

1145
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:50,580
they be handed over to a number
of select mainstream media

1146
01:06:50,580 --> 01:06:55,230
publications, who then dissected
it and talk to various agencies

1147
01:06:55,230 --> 01:07:00,600
about what they could actually
publish or not? Yes. Okay. How

1148
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,450
did it work with the Guardian,
John?

1149
01:07:05,250 --> 01:07:07,890
Well, it looks to me like to be
the same process.

1150
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,740
You believe national security of
the United States had been

1151
01:07:10,770 --> 01:07:11,400
damaged?

1152
01:07:12,420 --> 01:07:13,230
I do not.

1153
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,770
But the question was, Do you
believe the by by publishing

1154
01:07:16,770 --> 01:07:20,790
this the security of the United
States, the national security of

1155
01:07:20,790 --> 01:07:23,640
the United States has been
damaged? Her answer, as you just

1156
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,860
heard was, I do not

1157
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,920
believe national security of the
United States had been damaged?

1158
01:07:29,940 --> 01:07:33,780
I do not. And we have consulted
with the authorities about

1159
01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:35,790
everything that we have
published, and we've invited

1160
01:07:35,790 --> 01:07:39,360
them with the NSA with the White
House. DNI.

1161
01:07:39,930 --> 01:07:42,660
Is this damaging to national
security? And should we is there

1162
01:07:42,660 --> 01:07:44,760
any real reason we should not
publish this?

1163
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,180
We've invited specific national
security concerns about we've

1164
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,540
let them know what we're going
to publish. And you know, to the

1165
01:07:51,630 --> 01:07:55,320
specifics of which slide of
which presentation or which

1166
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,830
document On which date? And
would you tell me how that

1167
01:07:58,830 --> 01:07:59,640
happens, women?

1168
01:08:00,090 --> 01:08:04,350
So they call the White House
called DNI called the NSA said,

1169
01:08:04,620 --> 01:08:07,770
here's what we take a look at
this. We want to publish these

1170
01:08:07,770 --> 01:08:11,790
slides on this date, at this
time in this publication, do you

1171
01:08:11,790 --> 01:08:12,660
have a problem? Because

1172
01:08:12,660 --> 01:08:15,180
it's interesting to me, it's
come up before with other news

1173
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,810
organizations in the United
States, do you go to NSA

1174
01:08:18,810 --> 01:08:21,120
authorities, whether it's
General Alexander or someone

1175
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:26,580
else, and say, This is what
we're prepared to publish? is,

1176
01:08:26,610 --> 01:08:28,440
what's the next part of the
question?

1177
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:32,069
Well, in this situation, you're
not really asking a question,

1178
01:08:32,099 --> 01:08:34,019
because you have the
information. I'm going to

1179
01:08:34,019 --> 01:08:36,479
publish this What's your
response? You're saying this is

1180
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,679
what we have? Do you have a
specific national security

1181
01:08:40,679 --> 01:08:43,919
concern that you would like to
alert us to? And well, yes, that

1182
01:08:43,919 --> 01:08:47,969
is a question or we are inviting
you to raise. And then we don't

1183
01:08:47,999 --> 01:08:51,329
guarantee that we will agree
with their interpretation, which

1184
01:08:51,329 --> 01:08:53,159
but what we're saying is we
would you know, we'd like to

1185
01:08:53,159 --> 01:08:56,939
hear that. And you heard it.
Actually

1186
01:08:57,750 --> 01:08:58,650
pretty concerned and

1187
01:08:58,950 --> 01:09:00,990
specific national security
concerns about anything.

1188
01:09:01,620 --> 01:09:05,910
Extending security specific
concerns. I think it's fair.

1189
01:09:06,900 --> 01:09:07,560
Huh?

1190
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,900
Oh, hold on a second. There's a
couple of brings up a couple

1191
01:09:09,900 --> 01:09:10,260
interesting.

1192
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,339
Yeah. How about the the people
are going to die? That that

1193
01:09:15,810 --> 01:09:19,110
is the worst disaster ever. And
here should arrest Glenn

1194
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:20,250
Greenwald here

1195
01:09:20,250 --> 01:09:23,790
is the the publication saying Do
you have a national security

1196
01:09:23,790 --> 01:09:28,980
issue? And they said they didn't
even answer. So you tell me

1197
01:09:28,980 --> 01:09:29,790
what's going on?

1198
01:09:30,060 --> 01:09:33,150
That sounds like a number of
possibilities. One, all the

1199
01:09:33,150 --> 01:09:35,820
information is bullcrap. They're
doing a lot more and this is

1200
01:09:35,820 --> 01:09:38,640
just a smokescreen and make it
look like they're not could be

1201
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,730
testing the waters. We could
have this phony slide show maybe

1202
01:09:41,730 --> 01:09:45,030
only has the five slides. And
they're testing the waters to

1203
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:47,910
see how the public reacts to
this. And if the public is good

1204
01:09:47,910 --> 01:09:51,930
with it, fine. Throw the switch.
We just put everybody in a

1205
01:09:51,930 --> 01:09:55,470
database and was fine everybody
24/7 Who cares but there was a

1206
01:09:55,470 --> 01:09:55,680
bit

1207
01:09:55,710 --> 01:09:59,070
it's funny you say that John
because on my favorite show,

1208
01:09:59,340 --> 01:10:03,690
Aaron Brown MIT had our favorite
guy was Clark Nolan with the

1209
01:10:03,690 --> 01:10:07,920
West Clark seventh. And it's
like you taking the words right

1210
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:08,940
out of his mouth, everything

1211
01:10:08,940 --> 01:10:10,650
he was gonna release it was a
problem was done at the

1212
01:10:10,650 --> 01:10:12,540
beginning. But then he said I'm
worried about things he may

1213
01:10:12,540 --> 01:10:14,130
still have. So which is it?
Well, I

1214
01:10:14,130 --> 01:10:17,910
think I think the the fact is
that the way it came out back at

1215
01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:22,380
the time of the summit meeting
with the Chinese president, it

1216
01:10:22,380 --> 01:10:26,490
was hurtful. But on the other
hand, there may be some more

1217
01:10:26,490 --> 01:10:31,140
stuff behind it. But the truth
is, people know what's in there.

1218
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:35,550
And the American people are
solidly behind the PRISM

1219
01:10:35,550 --> 01:10:40,920
program, and all exporters. You
want protection? Yes, most

1220
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,310
people say, Look, if, if that's
what it takes, I'm happy. So

1221
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,710
I think the questions on very
solid ground here,

1222
01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:51,330
let it work out. Edward Snowden
is going to disappear from the

1223
01:10:51,330 --> 01:10:52,170
pages of history.

1224
01:10:52,410 --> 01:10:55,680
I love that little pause. He's
going to disappear from the

1225
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:56,610
pages of history.

1226
01:10:58,410 --> 01:11:02,220
So now you can put the New York
Times into context. They are not

1227
01:11:02,220 --> 01:11:06,120
on your side. They are part of
the aisle, everyone's fine with

1228
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:10,260
the program. That's what's going
on here. It is to marginalize

1229
01:11:10,260 --> 01:11:14,940
anyone's any dissenting voice,
saying that excuse me, you're

1230
01:11:14,940 --> 01:11:18,120
clearly not with the majority.
You're not with the cool kids.

1231
01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:23,040
Keyword. Everyone's fine with
this. Everyone's fine. Clearly

1232
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:24,570
America is behind prison.

1233
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:28,200
That's what he just said. And
that goes,

1234
01:11:28,650 --> 01:11:30,960
yes. said yes. Yeah. Hold
agreement.

1235
01:11:32,190 --> 01:11:35,610
Because you know, she's she
works. She's a council foreign

1236
01:11:35,610 --> 01:11:38,730
relations member. Yeah. Oh,
yeah. And of course, the

1237
01:11:38,730 --> 01:11:41,490
President has to downplay it
just a little bit now that that

1238
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,410
I think that was the funniest
line I heard all week.

1239
01:11:43,530 --> 01:11:48,840
I'm not going to be scrambling
jets to get a 29 year old

1240
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:50,550
Packer.

1241
01:11:50,580 --> 01:11:56,100
I love that I'm keeping that
because this is in the same to

1242
01:11:56,100 --> 01:12:01,290
me in the same line as this one.
Because it hasn't it hasn't

1243
01:12:01,290 --> 01:12:02,850
happened yet, but it will

1244
01:12:03,690 --> 01:12:07,920
imagine boarding a train in the
center of a city. No racing to

1245
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,490
an airport. And across the
terminal. No delays. No sitting

1246
01:12:11,490 --> 01:12:15,060
on the tarmac. No lost luggage.
No taking off your shoes or

1247
01:12:15,060 --> 01:12:15,690
shoes.

1248
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:23,160
Yeah, okay. We're lining them
up. They'll be more like that.

1249
01:12:25,230 --> 01:12:28,470
And then his dad comes out
snowdon's Dad This to me. Yeah,

1250
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:28,710
this

1251
01:12:28,710 --> 01:12:32,220
this was interesting. I've got
your take on that. Okay,

1252
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:37,770
well, this is not his dad. Ah, I
don't know who this guy is. But

1253
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:45,840
your father. Okay. Your kids
screws up to say, J or do J sees

1254
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:50,070
and they screw up and big time.
This is this is a. And let's

1255
01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:52,590
just leave out of the equation
whether you're conflicted about

1256
01:12:52,590 --> 01:12:55,680
whether the kid did the right
thing or not. This is not how a

1257
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:55,980
father

1258
01:12:55,980 --> 01:12:59,250
talk and we update the story of
Edward Snowden as a family

1259
01:12:59,250 --> 01:13:02,160
member of the former
intelligence contractor to also

1260
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,430
note family member vended him on
national television this

1261
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:07,530
morning, Ray Suarez reports.

1262
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,010
But at this point, I don't feel
that he's committed treason. The

1263
01:13:11,010 --> 01:13:11,520
father

1264
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:16,590
of former CIA contractor Edward
Snowden told NBC News Today. His

1265
01:13:16,590 --> 01:13:18,120
son is not a traitor.

1266
01:13:18,180 --> 01:13:25,950
He has in fact, broken US law in
the sense that he has released

1267
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,960
classified information. And if
folks want to classify him as a

1268
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,080
traitor, in fact, he has
betrayed his government. But I

1269
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,810
don't believe that he betrayed
the people of the United States.

1270
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,460
This is unbelievable to me. This
is first of all, the guy is a

1271
01:13:41,460 --> 01:13:45,150
talker. He's He's spoken on
television or spoken before

1272
01:13:45,150 --> 01:13:48,660
microphone or before media. I
don't know too much about him. I

1273
01:13:48,660 --> 01:13:50,700
haven't put a lot of research in
but I saw this and like that's

1274
01:13:50,700 --> 01:13:53,280
not his dad. That's not his
father. I don't care what you're

1275
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,400
saying. That's not how parents
speak. That's not how they act

1276
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,860
around their children. Your
thoughts. John C. Dvorak, child

1277
01:13:58,860 --> 01:13:59,820
behavior specialist.

1278
01:13:59,850 --> 01:14:04,290
I'm 100%. with you on this. It
sounds like Well, he did break

1279
01:14:04,290 --> 01:14:08,100
US law. I mean, nobody would say
that, you know, if you're

1280
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,580
generally speaking, especially
in in some situations, he didn't

1281
01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:14,250
do anything wrong. You know, I
mean, there's a million ways of

1282
01:14:14,250 --> 01:14:16,800
doing this, but you don't come
out with a statement like he

1283
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,080
did. He broke US law. I

1284
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,650
know. I am programmed to talk
this way. But it

1285
01:14:22,650 --> 01:14:26,490
was like, Yeah, I think that
you'd be maybe an actor.

1286
01:14:26,970 --> 01:14:29,160
I'm thinking total aquilani.
Snowden

1287
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:33,120
also told Attorney General Eric
Holder he believes his son would

1288
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:37,230
voluntarily returned to the US
to face espionage charges. If

1289
01:14:37,230 --> 01:14:41,100
the Justice Department promises
not to hold him before trial, or

1290
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:45,510
subject him to a gag order.
Snowden himself remains out of

1291
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:47,940
sight. His passport has been
revoked

1292
01:14:47,940 --> 01:14:50,430
by this is another thing that's
bothering me about this story.

1293
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:55,920
This continuous messaging and
this is where I think we get

1294
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,190
into the the messages that are
being sent with all this his

1295
01:14:59,190 --> 01:15:03,480
passport. has been revoked. What
didn't blow up and burned in

1296
01:15:03,480 --> 01:15:09,150
midair. And when you when you go
when you go to like Russia, it's

1297
01:15:09,150 --> 01:15:12,900
like, don't give a crap me. What
does it mean, then? Well,

1298
01:15:12,900 --> 01:15:13,110
there's

1299
01:15:13,110 --> 01:15:16,740
a couple of things. I thought
about this too. And I thought it

1300
01:15:16,740 --> 01:15:20,580
was very strange. If I'm in
South America with an American

1301
01:15:20,580 --> 01:15:22,590
passport and going from country
to country, I just go from

1302
01:15:22,590 --> 01:15:24,690
country to country. You look at
the passport, they look at you

1303
01:15:24,690 --> 01:15:26,880
they stamp it, you're done. Yes,
they don't. They're not hooked

1304
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,920
to the US database. They're not
hooked to any data.

1305
01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:33,840
Even if they are What do they
care? Yeah, they don't care. The

1306
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,190
revocation this

1307
01:15:35,190 --> 01:15:39,570
passports no good revocation
means your money's no good with

1308
01:15:39,570 --> 01:15:42,270
us? No, I think it means like
the Pay Pal thing we have,

1309
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:45,480
I think, yeah. Well, I think
it's worse. When you don't well,

1310
01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:47,610
let me consult the book of
knowledge while you give your

1311
01:15:47,610 --> 01:15:49,290
opinion. I would say that

1312
01:15:49,290 --> 01:15:52,620
within the Pay Pal case, you
know, we get the people get,

1313
01:15:52,710 --> 01:15:56,370
apparently we're killing
people's passports to pay us.

1314
01:15:57,150 --> 01:16:00,030
Anyway, it was a minor point. I
can't really go on about it.

1315
01:16:01,020 --> 01:16:05,190
What does it mean when your
passport Okay, Rev. vocation, I

1316
01:16:05,190 --> 01:16:10,050
guess, wouldn't be the word.
What does passport revocation

1317
01:16:10,230 --> 01:16:11,550
actually mean?

1318
01:16:12,330 --> 01:16:15,180
I don't know. What does it mean?
I don't know why even do it. In

1319
01:16:15,180 --> 01:16:18,330
fact, if you're in court and you
are gun, if you're a flight

1320
01:16:18,330 --> 01:16:21,060
risk, they take your passport,
that's the only way you can keep

1321
01:16:21,180 --> 01:16:22,650
people from I have

1322
01:16:22,650 --> 01:16:33,300
it here 51.65 of uscis.gov.
Whatever they call it,

1323
01:16:33,690 --> 01:16:37,920
notification of denial or
revocation of passport, A, the

1324
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,440
department will notify in
writing any person whose

1325
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:44,160
application for issuance of a
passport has been denied or

1326
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:48,150
whose passport has been revoked.
The notification will be set

1327
01:16:48,150 --> 01:16:51,540
forth the specific reasons for
the denial or revocation and if

1328
01:16:51,540 --> 01:16:54,660
applicable, procedures for
review are available, an

1329
01:16:54,660 --> 01:16:56,640
application for a passport will
be denied or treated as

1330
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,430
abandoned if an applicant fails
to meet his or her burden of

1331
01:16:59,430 --> 01:17:04,200
proof. So it doesn't say
anything about what this means.

1332
01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:07,830
I think it means you can't come
back into the country. It has

1333
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:12,630
nothing to do with traveling
around the world. And revoking

1334
01:17:12,660 --> 01:17:17,460
it sounds like your his passport
flew out of his bag. You have no

1335
01:17:17,460 --> 01:17:21,810
passport. Now all of a sudden he
still has a passport. This is a

1336
01:17:21,810 --> 01:17:26,370
very weaknesses messaging. And
I'm not quite sure if it's

1337
01:17:26,370 --> 01:17:28,770
really intentional, but it feels
like it.

1338
01:17:29,820 --> 01:17:33,930
No, I am 100% with you on this.
It feels like it because I

1339
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:37,890
noticed this meme coming up over
and over. Oh, his passport was

1340
01:17:37,890 --> 01:17:41,160
revoked. Oh, how can the
Russians let him go? His

1341
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,300
passport was revoked. Obviously,
they have no concern for the

1342
01:17:45,300 --> 01:17:49,770
rule of law. By the way our
economic hitman has some stuff

1343
01:17:49,770 --> 01:17:53,250
coming in on the Syrian
situation. And apparently

1344
01:17:53,250 --> 01:17:59,730
according to his people, his
story his milieu the the Syria

1345
01:17:59,730 --> 01:18:02,940
has long stance I don't have all
the details but as long since

1346
01:18:02,940 --> 01:18:06,390
been a proxy war, not about
pipelines, but pipelines are

1347
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:08,190
part of it. But there's even
more to it than that but as a

1348
01:18:08,190 --> 01:18:12,090
proxy war with the United States
and Russia using Syria as the

1349
01:18:12,150 --> 01:18:15,030
you know, and the China's

1350
01:18:16,140 --> 01:18:17,400
drugs must be involved

1351
01:18:17,730 --> 01:18:20,160
I don't know but there's
something going on he was in the

1352
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:25,170
US Senate from the phone he's on
the move. Really he's always on

1353
01:18:25,170 --> 01:18:25,560
Wait a minute

1354
01:18:25,590 --> 01:18:29,460
wait a minute. You didn't answer
the call Did you did you went on

1355
01:18:29,460 --> 01:18:32,010
a call or do you turn on the
scrambler i How'd you get in

1356
01:18:32,010 --> 01:18:32,610
touch was

1357
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,340
a was a text message oversight.

1358
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:36,690
Oh no.

1359
01:18:37,140 --> 01:18:39,630
Yeah, I figured you know they've
been you know they just do this

1360
01:18:39,630 --> 01:18:40,440
anyway routine.

1361
01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:41,880
Did he use code? Like

1362
01:18:42,270 --> 01:18:45,000
no code? No code. Oh, god.

1363
01:18:45,150 --> 01:18:47,490
No, you're kidding me. Now

1364
01:18:47,490 --> 01:18:50,430
it's just fine. Because it's
only apparently that if you're

1365
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,310
using encryption, the latest
word is meant to be

1366
01:18:53,310 --> 01:18:55,980
same for me. Yeah.

1367
01:18:59,370 --> 01:19:03,060
If you use encryption or Tor
then you actually are targeted.

1368
01:19:03,450 --> 01:19:06,540
Yeah, because you must have
something to hide. That's right.

1369
01:19:07,050 --> 01:19:08,010
That's exactly

1370
01:19:08,010 --> 01:19:10,680
it. Oh, well had a jingle for
that too. Hold on a second.

1371
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:17,550
Where is Oh my goodness. Wow,
this I've so many so many cool

1372
01:19:17,550 --> 01:19:19,440
jingles to play for us to do
this one.

1373
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,200
Could you hear that over the
Skype?

1374
01:19:47,010 --> 01:19:49,110
It was it was hard to
understand.

1375
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:53,220
Someone told me where the hell
was Snowden because Oh, I knew

1376
01:19:53,820 --> 01:19:54,780
it was a little bit.

1377
01:19:55,740 --> 01:19:58,590
Am I Am I over modulating? No.

1378
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,080
It was it was coming through
There is a bell it's just like

1379
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:05,520
it was muffled Wow. Okay as a as
a production thing I don't think

1380
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:06,240
it's used well, it's

1381
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,030
not I mean, you know, this is
our producers you know they just

1382
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:12,060
throw stats like this

1383
01:20:20,700 --> 01:20:24,330
John Kerry mass the Snowden

1384
01:20:25,530 --> 01:20:27,840
is David Bowie sending in some
tracks for us

1385
01:20:28,530 --> 01:20:45,030
this time you pass the song so
the laws secrets now the drones

1386
01:20:45,030 --> 01:21:03,210
are here because you and you yo
yoing by rules

1387
01:21:03,690 --> 01:21:09,150
are well intended. Yes. So it
were just said the word so good.

1388
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,920
caught myself. That's a positive
sign. I kept saying amazing a

1389
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,460
couple of times, not to not
today. No, no, I'm at the dinner

1390
01:21:17,460 --> 01:21:21,030
table. Oh, I'm sad to the point
that we got the dinner table and

1391
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:22,650
it has no rules. So

1392
01:21:22,650 --> 01:21:25,350
it's gotten so Mickey and I are
catching each other on it now.

1393
01:21:25,620 --> 01:21:35,910
So so so so so far, Lottie dough
where were we? Then we're all

1394
01:21:35,910 --> 01:21:37,410
going to hell in a handbasket.

1395
01:21:37,469 --> 01:21:39,929
Carolina's Lindsey Graham was
among the Republican

1396
01:21:39,930 --> 01:21:41,220
supporters, you will be

1397
01:21:41,220 --> 01:21:44,730
paying taxes. You're gonna have
the pleasure of getting no the

1398
01:21:44,730 --> 01:21:47,640
IRS like the rest of us. Welcome
to America.

1399
01:21:48,509 --> 01:21:50,939
Just want to make sure we got
that in there. Well, no, I

1400
01:21:50,940 --> 01:21:55,170
think that that Anderson Cooper
has is kind of on the Snowden

1401
01:21:55,170 --> 01:21:57,600
side of the equation, because
I'm kind of keeping tabs on

1402
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,800
these guys. What do you mean?
What do you mean? Sorry?

1403
01:22:01,830 --> 01:22:03,420
What do you mean on the Snowden
side?

1404
01:22:03,450 --> 01:22:06,630
Well, he's on the Snowden grant
Glenn Greenwald side because he

1405
01:22:06,630 --> 01:22:08,130
was had Greenwald on this

1406
01:22:08,130 --> 01:22:12,660
was, Is he playing the gay card?
Is this like, Can this? Oh,

1407
01:22:12,990 --> 01:22:18,150
I didn't think of that. Could
be? Well, he definitely is

1408
01:22:18,150 --> 01:22:21,480
defendant. Greenwald. I have a
couple of clips that I will talk

1409
01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:25,080
about the real sleaze ball,
which is Peter King Lear,

1410
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:29,760
apparently, Greenwald of
threatening the country by by he

1411
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,270
says he was going to out all the
CIA agents around the world. How

1412
01:22:33,270 --> 01:22:38,250
about time, and I never said
that. But Peter King says he

1413
01:22:38,250 --> 01:22:41,490
should be jailed immediately.
And so this was kind of

1414
01:22:41,490 --> 01:22:42,600
upsetting to Greenwald.

1415
01:22:42,630 --> 01:22:45,690
This is King part one. Yeah,
play King part

1416
01:22:45,690 --> 01:22:47,520
one, you get a little feeling
for

1417
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,160
it. On Fox News. He went even
further when he was talking to

1418
01:22:50,340 --> 01:22:53,730
Megan Kelly. He said that Glenn
Greenwald, who writes for The

1419
01:22:53,730 --> 01:22:57,570
Guardian should be prosecuted
because he is also because he

1420
01:22:57,570 --> 01:23:01,080
threatened to reveal the
identities of CIA agents and

1421
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:05,370
other personnel operating around
the world. We've researched

1422
01:23:05,370 --> 01:23:08,040
this, we've found absolutely no
evidence that Glenn Greenwald

1423
01:23:08,130 --> 01:23:11,370
has ever said that. And in fact,
we're going to talk to Glenn

1424
01:23:11,370 --> 01:23:13,860
Greenwald right now from The
Guardian. Hey, girl, Glenn,

1425
01:23:13,860 --> 01:23:16,710
Congressman King is saying You
are threatening to disclose

1426
01:23:16,710 --> 01:23:19,860
names of CIA agents and officers
and other personnel around the

1427
01:23:19,860 --> 01:23:23,310
world and says that's a direct
attack on America. And that's a

1428
01:23:23,310 --> 01:23:25,710
reason why you should be
prosecuted. I haven't found any

1429
01:23:25,710 --> 01:23:28,440
quote where you have threatened
this. And the congressman's

1430
01:23:28,440 --> 01:23:31,080
office hasn't responded to our
request for proof you actually

1431
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,260
said this. So just for the
record, have you or are you

1432
01:23:34,260 --> 01:23:37,350
threatening to disclose the
names of CIA agents and officers

1433
01:23:37,350 --> 01:23:37,980
around the world?

1434
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,160
Yeah, the reason you haven't
found that Anderson is because

1435
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,970
it doesn't exist. I was really
staggered that a United States

1436
01:23:44,970 --> 01:23:47,940
Congressman, the chairman of the
House, Homeland Security

1437
01:23:47,940 --> 01:23:51,510
Committee, actually could go on
national television and make up

1438
01:23:51,540 --> 01:23:54,810
an accusation literally
fabricated out of whole cloth.

1439
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,100
Really, you were stunned by this
Glenn.

1440
01:24:00,180 --> 01:24:03,480
Done that. deep place a good
wash done

1441
01:24:03,480 --> 01:24:05,910
that this can happen. Really?
This? You were just

1442
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:06,900
flabbergasted.

1443
01:24:06,930 --> 01:24:11,580
I think he's doing it for a guy
who I tend to have been set up

1444
01:24:11,580 --> 01:24:14,460
for this whole thing. I think
he's been playing this as better

1445
01:24:14,460 --> 01:24:17,850
than I could. Yeah, I annulling
it. Well, I would have been

1446
01:24:18,630 --> 01:24:21,210
slapped flabbergast or what's
flustered, he's not

1447
01:24:21,690 --> 01:24:24,180
flustered. Yeah, I would have
been just so done by now. I'm

1448
01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:28,440
like, Okay, I've done the look.
Act One, two and three are over.

1449
01:24:28,650 --> 01:24:30,990
Yeah, no, he's saying it in.
There's like, this is his prison

1450
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,780
book, more than 15 minutes of
fame. Now, the one that really

1451
01:24:33,780 --> 01:24:37,080
got me, and it's was and I've
actually correspond with some

1452
01:24:37,530 --> 01:24:43,620
people, but Sorkin, Andrew Ross
Sorkin, who's on CNBC, another

1453
01:24:43,620 --> 01:24:46,920
journalist from the New York
Times, saying that Greenwald

1454
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:51,150
should be prosecuted or maybe
arrested, which is a funny thing

1455
01:24:51,150 --> 01:24:54,420
for a journalist to say about a
journalist I mean, to David

1456
01:24:54,420 --> 01:24:54,870
Gregory.

1457
01:24:54,990 --> 01:24:58,500
It's an outrage. It's an
outrage. It is an outrage for

1458
01:24:58,500 --> 01:25:01,890
total journalists. talk this
way, you're not a journalist, if

1459
01:25:01,890 --> 01:25:02,730
you say that,

1460
01:25:03,090 --> 01:25:06,750
and let me I want to play these
two clips because first he says

1461
01:25:06,750 --> 01:25:09,810
this Then the next day,
apparently he got a lot of flack

1462
01:25:09,810 --> 01:25:13,080
from everybody, and so he
apologizes. And the reason that

1463
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:18,210
I want to play the apology is
because there is no apology. I

1464
01:25:18,210 --> 01:25:20,580
think he's one of the great
things to deconstruct. It's got

1465
01:25:20,580 --> 01:25:24,270
performative, it's got all the
crap. And he never says, I'm

1466
01:25:24,270 --> 01:25:27,930
sorry, Glen, play the first
word, he actually calls for his

1467
01:25:27,930 --> 01:25:28,470
arrest.

1468
01:25:28,740 --> 01:25:30,810
Let's talk about some of the
headlines. The big one this

1469
01:25:30,810 --> 01:25:34,110
morning. There is heavy security
this morning in Moscow airport

1470
01:25:34,110 --> 01:25:37,980
today National Security Agency
leaker Edward Snowden. Yep, he's

1471
01:25:37,980 --> 01:25:41,880
there. There is speculation he
is planning to fly to Havana on

1472
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,210
route to Ecuador. The government
of Ecuador has confirmed it is

1473
01:25:45,210 --> 01:25:48,090
considering an asylum
application for Snowden. He

1474
01:25:48,090 --> 01:25:51,990
faces American espionage charges
now after he admitted to

1475
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:57,030
revealing classified documents
and I gotta say, this is we've I

1476
01:25:57,030 --> 01:26:00,420
feel like a we've screwed this
up to even let him get to Russia

1477
01:26:00,510 --> 01:26:04,470
be clearly the Chinese hate us
to even let him out of the

1478
01:26:04,470 --> 01:26:07,380
country. I mean, that says
something. Russia hated us. And

1479
01:26:07,380 --> 01:26:10,500
we knew that beforehand, but
that's sort of right. And now, I

1480
01:26:10,500 --> 01:26:12,510
don't know. And then my second
piece of this, I told you this

1481
01:26:12,510 --> 01:26:15,570
in the greenroom, I would arrest
him and now I almost arrest

1482
01:26:15,630 --> 01:26:18,870
Glenn Greenwald, who's the
journalist who seems to be out

1483
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:22,140
there on what he wants to help
them get to Ecuador or whatever

1484
01:26:22,140 --> 01:26:25,470
is I mean, it's almost like a
hole and, and then wickedly

1485
01:26:25,470 --> 01:26:26,910
diplomatic issue as well.

1486
01:26:26,940 --> 01:26:30,780
He's also just throwing stuff
out there. And WikiLeaks and

1487
01:26:30,780 --> 01:26:31,740
snow cones Well,

1488
01:26:31,740 --> 01:26:37,230
he's also on the on the, on the,
on the bubble here that show

1489
01:26:37,230 --> 01:26:40,470
that he does he was moved to
CNBC to take over Erin Burnett

1490
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:45,660
spot. And he that that ratings
have tanked. And there's lots of

1491
01:26:45,660 --> 01:26:48,240
stories about how they want to
get rid of him. So he's, I

1492
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,510
think, just grasping at straws
trying to be mr. personality by

1493
01:26:51,510 --> 01:26:55,050
seeing their wiki leaks. Yeah,
and then they have them and then

1494
01:26:55,050 --> 01:26:57,000
the panels they get out there
the other people that are there,

1495
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:03,180
there's one woman or like an old
black woman. So it's ridiculous.

1496
01:27:03,180 --> 01:27:06,900
So the next day he realizes he's
an idiot for saying this. And so

1497
01:27:06,900 --> 01:27:09,660
he does this apology and I want
you to listen to this every word

1498
01:27:09,660 --> 01:27:14,160
of this apology, because he's
apologizing. He's not apology.

1499
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,190
He says he regrets saying it.
But to

1500
01:27:17,190 --> 01:27:19,350
address something that I said
actually, about Snowden.

1501
01:27:19,650 --> 01:27:23,850
performative. Number one, let me
address something right off the

1502
01:27:23,850 --> 01:27:26,340
bat. I won't stop the clip
anymore. I just want to say that

1503
01:27:26,340 --> 01:27:27,330
I heard her right there.

1504
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:29,880
address something that I said
actually about Snowden

1505
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,580
yesterday, in relation to that
Snowden story. And Glenn

1506
01:27:32,580 --> 01:27:34,980
Greenwald, The Guardian
journalist who broke the Snowden

1507
01:27:34,980 --> 01:27:38,220
story, I put my foot in my
mouth, and I'm sorry about this

1508
01:27:38,250 --> 01:27:41,490
when I veered into hyperbole and
suggested that he almost be

1509
01:27:41,490 --> 01:27:43,890
arrested. That was the quote,
and I have to say it didn't come

1510
01:27:43,890 --> 01:27:47,340
out. Right. And I misspoke. I'm
sorry, I said it that way. And

1511
01:27:47,340 --> 01:27:50,010
I'm sorry, I said it. I didn't
realize actually, the way I said

1512
01:27:50,010 --> 01:27:52,860
it until later when I saw the
clip. Just a little context or

1513
01:27:52,860 --> 01:27:56,070
another was some media around
this. I was trying, as we did in

1514
01:27:56,070 --> 01:27:58,620
another segment to raise a
question not about the legality

1515
01:27:58,620 --> 01:28:01,440
of publishing, but leaked
information about the NSA, but

1516
01:28:01,650 --> 01:28:04,470
about the implications if a
journalist aided someone like

1517
01:28:04,470 --> 01:28:07,170
Snowden in trying to evade
authorities on the run, and what

1518
01:28:07,170 --> 01:28:09,870
that would all mean, and I
overstep with my language, let

1519
01:28:09,870 --> 01:28:12,150
me be clear, just a couple of
things here, I believe, of

1520
01:28:12,150 --> 01:28:14,100
course, in the First Amendment
in transparency, and of course,

1521
01:28:14,100 --> 01:28:16,770
investigative journalism, like
the reports about the NSA

1522
01:28:16,770 --> 01:28:19,440
programs, and I think there are
fair and important questions to

1523
01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:22,110
be asked about the government
and our privacy on this ongoing

1524
01:28:22,110 --> 01:28:24,300
story. But I also think they're
fair questions to be asked about

1525
01:28:24,300 --> 01:28:27,510
Snowden himself, and the role of
the media but all my comments

1526
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,080
about Greenwald, I regret it.
You know, we do live TV for

1527
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,600
three hours every single day.
And sometimes we make a mistake,

1528
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,960
say things. We don't mean and we
hope that when we do we

1529
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,170
acknowledge it and correct it.
And I wanted to do that here on

1530
01:28:40,170 --> 01:28:41,250
this program. Yeah.

1531
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,710
Okay. Well, regretting it is
something different than

1532
01:28:43,710 --> 01:28:46,650
apologizing. I agree. There's
something different there. And

1533
01:28:46,650 --> 01:28:49,890
what is that awful music? If
they if they stopped the music?

1534
01:28:49,890 --> 01:28:53,340
Maybe they get some ratings
feel? Is this just super

1535
01:28:53,340 --> 01:28:57,660
annoying? Super annoying. And
this guy is a dick.

1536
01:28:58,019 --> 01:29:03,479
She totally will dig in David
Gregory who got eviscerated

1537
01:29:03,509 --> 01:29:07,949
chip, chip, chip Gregory who got
eviscerated by apparently Frank

1538
01:29:07,949 --> 01:29:11,759
Rich, who wrote I think in New
York Magazine, and Frank Rich's

1539
01:29:11,759 --> 01:29:15,839
considered the columnist,
columnist, he is the top of the

1540
01:29:15,839 --> 01:29:16,319
heap.

1541
01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:18,960
Oh, no, no wonder I don't know
who he is.

1542
01:29:19,170 --> 01:29:22,320
Yes, of course. But if you were
a writer, you know who he is.

1543
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:26,490
And he just essentially said
that David Gregory is not a

1544
01:29:26,490 --> 01:29:32,370
journalist. And he's not he's a
clown douche. And when you play

1545
01:29:32,370 --> 01:29:35,160
that David Gregory click the
last show, which is the one

1546
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,580
where he's calling out.
Greenwald. Yeah, you didn't play

1547
01:29:38,580 --> 01:29:41,010
the second one, which was later
in the show, and he's with a

1548
01:29:41,010 --> 01:29:44,760
bunch of creeps that are all in
the same boat. Oh, you know,

1549
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,550
this is terrible. We know we
should trust our government more

1550
01:29:47,550 --> 01:29:50,790
but I want to play this clip
because this is his apology,

1551
01:29:50,790 --> 01:29:54,060
kind of and it's not an apology
in any way. He's essentially

1552
01:29:54,060 --> 01:29:57,060
gloating over the fact that he's
gotten attention.

1553
01:29:57,480 --> 01:30:00,510
You know, part of the tactics of
this and part of the Data is,

1554
01:30:00,510 --> 01:30:03,690
frankly around journalism. And
Glenn Greenwald referenced it.

1555
01:30:03,870 --> 01:30:06,270
When I asked him a question
about whether he should or will

1556
01:30:06,270 --> 01:30:08,850
face charges, which has been
raised. And, you know, I want to

1557
01:30:08,850 --> 01:30:12,060
acknowledge there is a debate on
Twitter that goes on online

1558
01:30:12,060 --> 01:30:13,830
about this, even as we're
speaking. And here's what

1559
01:30:14,250 --> 01:30:16,560
Greenwald has tweeted after his
appearance this morning, who

1560
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,470
needs the government to try to
criminalize journalism when you

1561
01:30:19,470 --> 01:30:22,560
have David Gregory to do it? And
I want to directly take that on

1562
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,230
because this is the problem, who
is somebody who claims that he's

1563
01:30:25,230 --> 01:30:28,980
a journalist who would object to
a journalist raising questions,

1564
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,310
which is not actually embracing
any particular point of view?

1565
01:30:32,820 --> 01:30:37,020
Did he? Did he just go meta? Did
he just go? Yes. You said that I

1566
01:30:37,020 --> 01:30:39,690
submit to you because he said
that I said that I didn't say

1567
01:30:39,690 --> 01:30:41,850
that I said it. Did he really
say something that I said or

1568
01:30:41,850 --> 01:30:42,180
not.

1569
01:30:42,510 --> 01:30:44,820
And that's part of the tactics
of the debate here, when in

1570
01:30:44,820 --> 01:30:47,340
fact, lawmakers have questioned
him. There's a question about

1571
01:30:47,340 --> 01:30:51,090
his role in this. The Guardians
role in all of this, it is

1572
01:30:51,090 --> 01:30:54,060
actually part of the debate,
rather than going after the

1573
01:30:54,060 --> 01:30:56,460
questioner he could take on the
issues. And he had an

1574
01:30:56,460 --> 01:30:59,400
opportunity to do that here on
Meet the Press. What is

1575
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,970
journalism, Mike Murphy, and
what is appropriate is actually

1576
01:31:02,970 --> 01:31:03,690
part of this debate.

1577
01:31:03,810 --> 01:31:06,720
Absolutely. And the great irony
to me is this so called

1578
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:11,370
whistleblower, can only go to
almost rogue nations to hide

1579
01:31:11,550 --> 01:31:13,800
because anywhere there's rule of
law, he'd get extradited. He's a

1580
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:17,130
felon. He's a fugitive. It's a
bad sign for Hong Kong that has

1581
01:31:17,130 --> 01:31:20,430
built an image of having its own
independence from the PRC, with

1582
01:31:20,430 --> 01:31:23,340
its own system, a law that's up
in smoke today. And that's going

1583
01:31:23,340 --> 01:31:25,350
to have repercussions on our
relationship, I think with the

1584
01:31:25,350 --> 01:31:28,380
Chinese so we'll see what
happens he's may wind up on the

1585
01:31:28,380 --> 01:31:31,470
run in Caracas, but it's clear
he's a phone and a fugitive and

1586
01:31:31,650 --> 01:31:35,100
you will not have a good life.
Okay, here's here's what do you

1587
01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:36,060
mean, sounds like

1588
01:31:36,990 --> 01:31:39,480
Mike Murphy is a Republican
stooge should be ashamed of

1589
01:31:39,480 --> 01:31:43,650
himself. This man is not a
felon. How do you become a felon

1590
01:31:43,830 --> 01:31:45,210
by being convicted?

1591
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:49,710
Yeah, he's had his day in court.
So how's he a felon? Yeah, a

1592
01:31:49,710 --> 01:31:52,950
felon and a fugitive. This guy
should be ashamed of himself.

1593
01:31:52,980 --> 01:31:56,670
This is the kind of guy that
sits there on on on the Meet the

1594
01:31:56,670 --> 01:31:59,700
Press show saying this sort of
thing. And, and Gregory says

1595
01:31:59,700 --> 01:32:03,720
nothing about it, you know, so
called whistleblowers, a felon

1596
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,840
and a fugitive. And he goes on
and on and nothing, nobody stops

1597
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,840
him. And the other guys all
round the whole table are a

1598
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,470
bunch of dogs. The whole group
was a huge group of douchebags,

1599
01:32:13,470 --> 01:32:16,110
and there's all they were there
just thinking they were making

1600
01:32:16,110 --> 01:32:20,460
points with I don't know who,
but by the way, just to mention

1601
01:32:20,460 --> 01:32:24,060
one thing. I was part of the
show, because one of the things

1602
01:32:24,060 --> 01:32:29,190
I do is under beauty contest
guy, and I dismiss that is what

1603
01:32:29,190 --> 01:32:34,680
you do. It's what I do. And
there was I saw I caught this

1604
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:36,810
and I really didn't report on
because it was all in Spanish.

1605
01:32:37,050 --> 01:32:42,660
But I saw the Miss Venezuela.
Yeah, the MS. Venezuela the

1606
01:32:42,660 --> 01:32:45,870
competition. I don't know what
it was on the Dish Network, but

1607
01:32:45,870 --> 01:32:51,390
it was if a if the Snowden has a
clue, he'd go to Venezuela. I

1608
01:32:51,390 --> 01:32:56,340
would say that this was this was
the book. There were like 50 of

1609
01:32:56,340 --> 01:32:57,240
the most it was

1610
01:32:57,540 --> 01:33:02,310
Stunning. Stunning. Stunning.
Yeah, but let me check. Miss

1611
01:33:02,340 --> 01:33:06,600
Venezuela. Did you record it?

1612
01:33:07,350 --> 01:33:10,860
Now? This is just like months
and months ago. Images from

1613
01:33:10,860 --> 01:33:17,580
Miss Venezuela. I add this and
they're all built dogs. Oh my

1614
01:33:17,580 --> 01:33:24,510
goodness. Ah. Oh, wow. I know
what I want for my 50th

1615
01:33:24,510 --> 01:33:25,110
birthday.

1616
01:33:27,900 --> 01:33:31,260
Miss Venezuela? Give me

1617
01:33:32,490 --> 01:33:36,330
Give me the one who got the
poodle prize. I don't care. Like

1618
01:33:36,330 --> 01:33:39,840
that. What do you call it when
you last? They have a word for

1619
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:44,670
that. That's Dutch poodle prize.
It's the give me the door prize.

1620
01:33:44,850 --> 01:33:48,600
Anything? Wow, that's pretty
amazing. Now Mickey's gonna come

1621
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:53,160
home like I've heard that I
heard is that a problem?

1622
01:33:54,060 --> 01:33:57,870
Oh, honey. Anyway, so these guys
are just really Hi.

1623
01:33:57,870 --> 01:34:02,040
Can I make an observation about
this? Yeah, go ahead. Okay, so

1624
01:34:02,430 --> 01:34:10,050
Oh, god I did a really long one
that was bad the American public

1625
01:34:10,110 --> 01:34:13,440
and the European public Europe
is now we have Europe saying

1626
01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:18,630
hey, ah Dutch built is saying
hey, the American spied on the

1627
01:34:18,630 --> 01:34:23,850
on on EU parliament members, the
Dutch and the Germans and the

1628
01:34:23,850 --> 01:34:27,120
and all these countries are
handing over information this

1629
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,660
one big spy network every every
every government everything the

1630
01:34:30,660 --> 01:34:34,890
whole thing is everyone's spying
on everybody. And the population

1631
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:40,410
in general is mad. They're they
don't care that embarrass close

1632
01:34:40,410 --> 01:34:43,890
to bad. They don't care. They
don't care.

1633
01:34:44,490 --> 01:34:46,200
That you gotta you said the
beginning of the show,

1634
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:51,720
man. I'm mad. It's close to bad.
They really really don't care.

1635
01:34:52,110 --> 01:34:56,070
Okay. And, and, you know, I see
things in the chat room. People

1636
01:34:56,070 --> 01:34:58,890
say hey, you know, Snowden is
waking people up. I'm sorry.

1637
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,710
No, he's not what didn't know
anybody? No, it's not

1638
01:35:01,710 --> 01:35:06,090
it's not true, it is not true.
And what's happening is the

1639
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:12,150
corporate owned media. And the
little pieces don't make up, you

1640
01:35:12,150 --> 01:35:15,930
know that much individually. But
together, it's kind of the wall

1641
01:35:15,930 --> 01:35:18,570
of information that and I'll
talk about a little bit later on

1642
01:35:18,570 --> 01:35:22,380
to talk about some local stuff
here in Austin. And, and people

1643
01:35:22,380 --> 01:35:26,760
don't really know, the Analyze
stuff, the way we do it. And

1644
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,940
they just take these bits and
pieces, and all these media

1645
01:35:30,090 --> 01:35:33,120
outlets to just copy each other
and it's copying of copying. And

1646
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,340
before you know it, you've got
Kanye, right. And it can't be

1647
01:35:35,340 --> 01:35:38,220
undone. You know, it just can't
be undone. And that's the way it

1648
01:35:38,220 --> 01:35:40,680
is. And it's fact and it's the
truth, and that's what it is.

1649
01:35:41,070 --> 01:35:44,790
And people do not care in
general, the thing that it's

1650
01:35:44,790 --> 01:35:48,690
uncovering for me personally,
and I have a little clip here

1651
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:55,320
about the the generals and
admirals, as something that I

1652
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:58,920
didn't really realize what this
chip Gregory thing and all these

1653
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:05,070
guys, it is showing you the
elite structure, the elite,

1654
01:36:05,460 --> 01:36:12,450
political, military, media
industrial complex, really, it's

1655
01:36:12,510 --> 01:36:15,270
legal to put the lawyers in
there somewhere as well. But the

1656
01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:18,930
politicians are kind of lawyers
these days. And they have

1657
01:36:18,930 --> 01:36:23,940
nothing but one big frickin
party one big group, and it's

1658
01:36:23,940 --> 01:36:27,870
all who's above who and who's
got the bigger jet and who's got

1659
01:36:27,870 --> 01:36:32,160
the more cars and the entourage.
And you can see this, I was

1660
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:36,180
always under the impression till
I saw this, this report that

1661
01:36:36,570 --> 01:36:39,960
when when we when I grew up, I'd
be like, Hey, man, he's a five

1662
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:43,530
star general. I thought a five
star general meant you know,

1663
01:36:43,530 --> 01:36:46,650
someone you get you get medals
for stuff, but then you know,

1664
01:36:46,650 --> 01:36:50,460
you've like, you know, like
you've beaten enemies with your

1665
01:36:50,460 --> 01:36:53,790
bare hands. You know, you've
like, jumped out of airplanes

1666
01:36:53,790 --> 01:36:57,900
without parachutes. You've led
your men into battle. I thought

1667
01:36:57,900 --> 01:37:01,620
that was like an award. That
turns out it's a job

1668
01:37:01,620 --> 01:37:02,430
description.

1669
01:37:03,150 --> 01:37:07,350
This is generals roll a line of
luxurious mansions in a corner

1670
01:37:07,350 --> 01:37:11,010
of Washington. Were some of the
military's top brass call home.

1671
01:37:12,450 --> 01:37:16,230
Today's Navy has nearly as many
admirals as it does ships.

1672
01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:20,160
There's been an explosion of
perks and officers to enjoy

1673
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:20,400
them.

1674
01:37:20,610 --> 01:37:23,550
What's it going to look like? If
somebody sees you staying in the

1675
01:37:23,550 --> 01:37:27,930
Ritz Carlton, you know for four
days and doing one hours worth

1676
01:37:27,930 --> 01:37:28,530
of work.

1677
01:37:28,650 --> 01:37:31,980
The Pentagon is still struggling
to reduce the number of stars

1678
01:37:32,010 --> 01:37:36,420
nearly 1000 generals and
admirals, even as DOD civilians

1679
01:37:36,420 --> 01:37:40,530
prepare for furloughs.
Meanwhile, the number of

1680
01:37:40,530 --> 01:37:44,430
enlisted soldiers and Marines is
been slashed since the year

1681
01:37:44,430 --> 01:37:48,240
2000. The ranks of generals have
been swelling, especially at the

1682
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:52,800
top, the number of three and
four stars rose by 20%. The more

1683
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:57,930
stars the more they earn up to
$180,000. And they're surrounded

1684
01:37:57,930 --> 01:38:00,600
by an entourage of speech
writers, schedulers and

1685
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:06,240
security, even a personal chef,
and in some cases, their own $60

1686
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:11,370
million jet. I get the four star
running NATO needs a Gulfstream

1687
01:38:11,370 --> 01:38:14,250
because he's got to have a plane
to get around Europe but but

1688
01:38:14,250 --> 01:38:15,450
he's not the only one.

1689
01:38:15,780 --> 01:38:19,320
There is also Gulfstream
attached to assign to, if you

1690
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,870
will, the Secretary of the Army
Chief of Staff of the arm of the

1691
01:38:21,870 --> 01:38:23,790
undersecretary of the army and
the Vice Chief of Staff for the

1692
01:38:23,790 --> 01:38:24,180
army.

1693
01:38:24,420 --> 01:38:27,750
Former Pentagon budget official
Raymond Dubois says the Pentagon

1694
01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:31,950
needs to stop creating expensive
four star slots for every new

1695
01:38:31,950 --> 01:38:32,580
command.

1696
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:37,260
Did you know any of this? Yeah,
I knew all this. I mean, really,

1697
01:38:37,260 --> 01:38:39,060
when it's in your face like
that.

1698
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:43,050
Now, probably nothing I think
about but yeah, and then gotta

1699
01:38:43,050 --> 01:38:43,620
control and

1700
01:38:43,620 --> 01:38:47,160
then take into account that
you've got Nancy Pelosi flying

1701
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:50,340
on her own jet. You've got
watermelon head flying on his

1702
01:38:50,340 --> 01:38:56,250
jet. The Obamas fly to jets.
Everyone's got a 747 Everyone's

1703
01:38:56,250 --> 01:38:59,610
got a jet everyone's got an
entourage everyone's got

1704
01:39:00,599 --> 01:39:02,699
$1,000 a year plus personal

1705
01:39:03,900 --> 01:39:06,990
pocket money pocket money pocket
money,

1706
01:39:07,019 --> 01:39:10,049
right? Because they get all
these perks, perks or at least a

1707
01:39:10,049 --> 01:39:12,239
million dollars a year for each
one of these guys. And

1708
01:39:12,839 --> 01:39:17,849
they and that's all one big
douchebag elite circle. And this

1709
01:39:18,839 --> 01:39:22,409
is I'm thinking it's about time
we blow up Washington DC. I'm

1710
01:39:22,409 --> 01:39:26,489
sorry. We'll have we'll have
some poor door coming. I'm

1711
01:39:26,489 --> 01:39:30,299
sorry. We'll have some we'll
have some poor people who die in

1712
01:39:30,299 --> 01:39:40,289
the process but really and and
so now so it's gotten so bad and

1713
01:39:40,289 --> 01:39:42,959
I have to think a lot of this is
coming from the White House

1714
01:39:42,959 --> 01:39:46,079
directly and not from from the
new President Obama the new

1715
01:39:46,079 --> 01:39:50,519
invigorated guy. It's Valerie
Jarrett is the Chicago mobsters

1716
01:39:50,519 --> 01:39:55,049
whatever connection it is they
first this like oh, you really

1717
01:39:55,079 --> 01:40:00,299
watch what we do now and they
got and they got betray us. And

1718
01:40:00,299 --> 01:40:03,359
they screw that guy. They
scream, you know, I'm not and he

1719
01:40:03,359 --> 01:40:07,349
was a douche bag here. 18
motorcycle motorcade, you know,

1720
01:40:07,349 --> 01:40:10,139
he was part of the big thing was
like, Oh, you're not gonna play

1721
01:40:10,139 --> 01:40:12,749
by our rules. You're not gonna
protect our ass and Benghazi,

1722
01:40:12,839 --> 01:40:16,529
watch what we do with you. Okay,
boom, you're out that and just

1723
01:40:16,529 --> 01:40:20,249
to show everyone just to show
everyone that you know what you

1724
01:40:20,249 --> 01:40:23,249
want to think you can get out?
You think you can just drop out

1725
01:40:23,249 --> 01:40:24,839
and then you're out? I don't
think so.

1726
01:40:24,900 --> 01:40:27,840
There is more tonight and a
story we broke here last night.

1727
01:40:27,990 --> 01:40:31,320
It's about retired Marine Corps
General James Cartwright, who

1728
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:34,530
was this country's second
ranking military official, and

1729
01:40:34,530 --> 01:40:37,110
how he's being investigated in
connection with leaking

1730
01:40:37,110 --> 01:40:40,860
information about a secret US
cyber attack against Iran.

1731
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:44,190
Now this report, John, I want to
play the rest of it. I don't

1732
01:40:44,190 --> 01:40:47,640
know what you thought. I
thought, wow, they are messaging

1733
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:52,650
something really big here. This
is a message because it was the

1734
01:40:52,650 --> 01:40:57,150
White House themselves who
leaked this. But the message is,

1735
01:40:57,450 --> 01:41:05,460
we can screw anybody did you get
that?

1736
01:41:07,170 --> 01:41:09,240
No, I didn't. I thought you're
gonna play another clip. No,

1737
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:12,270
no, no, I My question is did you
get that? Did you get that

1738
01:41:12,270 --> 01:41:15,120
message from what they're doing
with Cartwright with hos?

1739
01:41:16,890 --> 01:41:20,190
No, I can't say that. I did. But
I think I think you might be

1740
01:41:20,190 --> 01:41:21,540
right. Why don't you just yeah,

1741
01:41:21,990 --> 01:41:24,060
I'll play the rest of the clip
and then you play the thing. And

1742
01:41:24,060 --> 01:41:27,990
let me now remember the story
broke. NBC is taking credit for

1743
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:31,410
it. NBC is of course the White
House and electric General

1744
01:41:31,410 --> 01:41:33,960
Electric blah, blah, blah. And
we know the insiders insiders.

1745
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:37,080
NBC News National investigative
correspondent Michael isikoff

1746
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:38,880
continues is reporting tonight.

1747
01:41:40,050 --> 01:41:43,530
General Cartwright retired from
the Marine Corps in August 2011

1748
01:41:43,530 --> 01:41:48,690
After nearly 40 years of
service, and Cartwright

1749
01:41:48,690 --> 01:41:52,410
continued to serve appointed to
the Defense Policy Board and

1750
01:41:52,410 --> 01:41:55,650
elite Pentagon advisory panel
with top secret security

1751
01:41:55,650 --> 01:41:59,460
clearance. But last January,
Cartwright resigned out of the

1752
01:41:59,460 --> 01:42:03,360
blue a board member tells NBC
News citing health reasons and

1753
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:07,500
the press of business. Legal
Sources tell NBC News if the FBI

1754
01:42:07,500 --> 01:42:10,560
was already investigating
Cartwright suspecting him of

1755
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:14,490
leaking highly classified
secrets about a covert US cyber

1756
01:42:14,490 --> 01:42:19,020
attack using a computer virus
called Stuxnet on Iran's nuclear

1757
01:42:19,020 --> 01:42:22,260
program. A car rights spokesman
said his resignation was

1758
01:42:22,260 --> 01:42:25,530
unrelated. Late today
Cartwright's lawyer Gregory

1759
01:42:25,530 --> 01:42:28,860
Craig's said in a statement,
General Jim Cartwright is an

1760
01:42:28,860 --> 01:42:32,100
American hero served his country
with distinction for four

1761
01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:35,310
decades, any suggestion that he
could have betrayed the country

1762
01:42:35,310 --> 01:42:39,000
he loves is preposterous.
Attorney General Eric Holder

1763
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:44,700
wasn't talking on the
investigation in general. Car

1764
01:42:44,700 --> 01:42:48,210
Ryan was known as a politically
savvy general, with backchannel

1765
01:42:48,210 --> 01:42:51,390
contacts at the White House,
where he worked closely with top

1766
01:42:51,390 --> 01:42:55,380
aides, even helping select the
targets for drone strikes. But

1767
01:42:55,380 --> 01:42:58,500
his real Mark was in developing
the country's future military

1768
01:42:58,500 --> 01:43:00,300
needs in cyberspace.

1769
01:43:01,500 --> 01:43:04,590
I'm telling you, this is a
message that nothing's going to

1770
01:43:04,590 --> 01:43:06,270
happen to the guy but this is a
message

1771
01:43:06,660 --> 01:43:08,970
that would have been probably
the message. I think you're

1772
01:43:08,970 --> 01:43:13,140
right about what he did
something they had. And I bet

1773
01:43:13,140 --> 01:43:16,680
that there was an even I bet
that they actually get him to

1774
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:19,020
resign, because instead of
making a stink, which you could

1775
01:43:19,020 --> 01:43:23,640
do, they pulled out the old
blackmail thing. And they

1776
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,400
probably find He's like one of
those guys who probably screwing

1777
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,190
around with one of his
secretaries. And the NSA just

1778
01:43:29,190 --> 01:43:32,490
pulled his file, pull all those
old phone calls, put that brand

1779
01:43:32,490 --> 01:43:35,520
and program to show the
connections that there it is,

1780
01:43:35,550 --> 01:43:38,760
and then they went over to her
and threatened ERISA. Look. Did

1781
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:46,530
you screw card, right? Yeah.
Okay, good. And then you shut up

1782
01:43:46,530 --> 01:43:49,230
now. And then they went and they
told him to? I mean, this is,

1783
01:43:49,470 --> 01:43:52,350
this is what this is all about.
Yes, this pulpit and in fact,

1784
01:43:52,350 --> 01:43:56,280
there was a good article in one
of the, the online magazines

1785
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,820
about one of these old stuff 71
year old colonel, as in the

1786
01:43:59,820 --> 01:44:03,690
Stasi, the German police. And he
said two things that were

1787
01:44:03,690 --> 01:44:07,110
interesting one, he says, if we
had this kind of capability,

1788
01:44:07,230 --> 01:44:10,740
could we do some serious damage?
It would be great. We went to

1789
01:44:10,740 --> 01:44:15,090
war. And then he says, Then he
says, though this is, you know,

1790
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:18,960
East Germany and the communists,
he then he says, There is no way

1791
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:22,500
that you collect all this
information and not use it. He

1792
01:44:22,500 --> 01:44:26,130
says you always use course
course. And if people don't

1793
01:44:26,130 --> 01:44:29,100
realize that this collection of
all their everything they do

1794
01:44:29,310 --> 01:44:31,890
isn't going to be used against
them if they want to get you I

1795
01:44:31,890 --> 01:44:34,380
mean, you obviously yeah, most
of you. People listen to the

1796
01:44:34,380 --> 01:44:37,530
show and just nothing's going to
happen because they don't care

1797
01:44:37,530 --> 01:44:40,500
about you. But if for some
reason somebody and it could be

1798
01:44:40,500 --> 01:44:43,650
a bureaucrat you crossed or
somebody you look cross eyed at,

1799
01:44:43,890 --> 01:44:46,470
they want to go after you
they'll find a way and they can

1800
01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:49,830
just take stuff out of context
and put a dossier together, but

1801
01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:51,780
I've kept somebody following you
around.

1802
01:44:52,020 --> 01:44:55,350
I've had this happen. This
happened to me. In the

1803
01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:58,440
Netherlands. We've been through
this several times. And they

1804
01:44:58,530 --> 01:45:01,830
humiliated me and call To me a
cheat and a tax cheat and a

1805
01:45:01,830 --> 01:45:06,030
liar, and you're screwing my
partners and, and, you know, I

1806
01:45:06,030 --> 01:45:09,630
went through a year of bull
crap. And then finally, you

1807
01:45:09,630 --> 01:45:11,880
know, when I when the judge
ruled that I was right, you

1808
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:14,820
know, like they had to they had
to publicly issue an apology.

1809
01:45:15,480 --> 01:45:21,030
That was never printed, of
course. No fun. Before we go

1810
01:45:21,030 --> 01:45:22,110
into our next topic,

1811
01:45:22,139 --> 01:45:24,869
I will before we Yeah, I also
like one more Greenwald thing I

1812
01:45:24,869 --> 01:45:29,519
want to do. Sure. So Greenwald
went before, before I do, let me

1813
01:45:29,519 --> 01:45:32,729
preface it with this. And by the
way, look for the cadence tell

1814
01:45:32,729 --> 01:45:35,489
me that when you hear this
woman, this is the meeting

1815
01:45:35,489 --> 01:45:39,299
called socialism. 2013. Then
tell me when you hear this woman

1816
01:45:39,299 --> 01:45:42,779
introducing the session, the
session in front of the audience

1817
01:45:42,779 --> 01:45:48,839
of 2013 Tell me that you don't
hear a cadence, a specific

1818
01:45:48,839 --> 01:45:52,019
cadence that you've heard
elsewhere. And I'll just tip it

1819
01:45:52,019 --> 01:45:56,429
off by saying microphone, mic
check. I'm sorry, but Mic check,

1820
01:45:56,429 --> 01:46:00,929
check. This is the way the woman
opens. She's up at a mic. This

1821
01:46:00,929 --> 01:46:04,049
is the audience is sitting
there. And she instead of saying

1822
01:46:04,049 --> 01:46:07,079
hello, everybody, I'm so and so
and I've ever listened to this.

1823
01:46:08,910 --> 01:46:11,310
My name is Sherry. Whoa, you're

1824
01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:21,180
this is the socialism 2013
conference, a weekend of

1825
01:46:21,180 --> 01:46:25,110
revolutionary politics, debate
and entertainment.

1826
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:30,840
I can't wait to hear what the
entertainments gonna

1827
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:35,490
be like. So she's yelling? Like
Mic check. Mic check. My name is

1828
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:36,960
Sherry. Well,

1829
01:46:37,770 --> 01:46:40,260
I think someone actually said
that when she when she yelled, I

1830
01:46:40,260 --> 01:46:46,740
think someone said my name. Oh,
whoops. Let me play the opening.

1831
01:46:46,740 --> 01:46:48,510
And I think someone actually
started to say it.

1832
01:46:49,410 --> 01:46:52,140
Good evening. My name is Sherry.
Whoa.

1833
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:54,360
I can hear you. Oh, good.

1834
01:46:55,110 --> 01:47:00,270
I think you're right. Oh,
whoops. One too many Greenwood.

1835
01:47:00,450 --> 01:47:05,880
Greenwald was on. And I have to
say he was on it's through Skype

1836
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:09,030
at this meeting. And he was
trying to be humorous, but he

1837
01:47:09,030 --> 01:47:11,940
did say something that I thought
was actually quite interesting.

1838
01:47:11,940 --> 01:47:15,150
And this is this is it? It's
it's Cooper Canyon greenwall.

1839
01:47:15,210 --> 01:47:19,350
No, no, no, this is army I'm
sorry. Army blocks. Greenwald

1840
01:47:19,350 --> 01:47:20,040
got it got

1841
01:47:20,430 --> 01:47:23,490
a lot of journalists and editors
on the like, have debates about

1842
01:47:23,490 --> 01:47:26,430
what the most prestigious
journalism award is? Is it a

1843
01:47:26,430 --> 01:47:30,210
Polk award, or a Peabody or a
Pulitzer. And those are

1844
01:47:30,210 --> 01:47:32,790
definitely all prestigious
awards. But I actually think the

1845
01:47:32,790 --> 01:47:36,600
one that we got yesterday is a
significant level above them

1846
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:39,540
all. And I'm very humbled and
honored to have received this

1847
01:47:39,540 --> 01:47:44,100
award. The US Army announced
yesterday that it was blocking

1848
01:47:44,100 --> 01:47:48,510
access at all army facilities
across the world to the garden.

1849
01:47:52,950 --> 01:47:57,660
Wow, we get blocked by Google
all the time. Our award is

1850
01:47:57,660 --> 01:47:58,650
bigger than that.

1851
01:47:59,940 --> 01:48:05,070
Is Well, the point is is that we
have the army arm of the

1852
01:48:05,070 --> 01:48:08,130
government while we moan and
groan about China.

1853
01:48:09,150 --> 01:48:13,380
Yeah, I mean, the reasoning and
I've seen people who sent me

1854
01:48:13,380 --> 01:48:17,370
many people have sent me the
notices they've received because

1855
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:21,540
it's all part of the same shirt
rod because some of the

1856
01:48:21,540 --> 01:48:24,570
documents that are published in
these articles are considered to

1857
01:48:24,570 --> 01:48:29,070
be top secret they have no
clearance to view them. So yeah,

1858
01:48:29,070 --> 01:48:32,520
we're totally China Russia. This
is what our immigration lawyer

1859
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:36,450
told you we are in we are living
see i Ohio Ohio.

1860
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:41,730
We are at and when we play those
clips from that caucus that was

1861
01:48:41,730 --> 01:48:44,730
discussing with the with the
congressional aides, all these

1862
01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:49,080
interesting issues like the 50
bogus things that ever happened

1863
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:54,030
to prevent terror that one of
the guys I didn't I don't know

1864
01:48:54,030 --> 01:48:57,990
if I clipped it or not. But one
of the guys said said I know you

1865
01:48:57,990 --> 01:49:02,370
can't read the Guardian because
apparently the congressional

1866
01:49:02,370 --> 01:49:07,110
staff can't read. They can't
read they're apparently sparked.

1867
01:49:07,740 --> 01:49:16,170
Really? That's what he implied.
Clark sorry, Clark implied that

1868
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,720
no no one of these guys that
we're giving the member that

1869
01:49:18,750 --> 01:49:22,080
that all these guys that were in
front of the congressional aide,

1870
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:22,290
right?

1871
01:49:23,580 --> 01:49:27,570
The party where everyone's it's,
it's stacked with all these

1872
01:49:27,570 --> 01:49:27,990
people.

1873
01:49:28,290 --> 01:49:31,530
Right? And so one of the guys
implied that I know you can't

1874
01:49:31,530 --> 01:49:34,920
read the Guardian because of
that. And he just casually said

1875
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,170
it I guess everyone who watched
it knows that because you don't

1876
01:49:37,170 --> 01:49:37,920
have an iPhone

1877
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:40,110
Killer so you don't have an
iPhone. You can't read the

1878
01:49:40,110 --> 01:49:40,650
guardian.

1879
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:43,110
They just find the whole

1880
01:49:43,110 --> 01:49:49,980
Glenn Greenwald's new name was
Clark. Clark Greenwald. Yeah,

1881
01:49:50,010 --> 01:49:51,900
this is a pop cultural
reference. I don't know if you

1882
01:49:51,900 --> 01:50:00,180
get it. I don't Clark Griswold.
National Lampoon's holiday He

1883
01:50:01,230 --> 01:50:06,810
has a pretty old old reference.
Yeah, Griswold I remember him.

1884
01:50:06,810 --> 01:50:08,760
Yeah. Chevy Chase playing the
bonehead dad.

1885
01:50:09,089 --> 01:50:12,659
Yeah. Okay, well, I guess we'll
just buzz myself off for that.

1886
01:50:12,690 --> 01:50:14,880
I think so. Yeah. Before we

1887
01:50:14,910 --> 01:50:19,200
go to thanking some of our
supporters for the program, I

1888
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:23,850
have finally found the actual
language from stret

1889
01:50:24,210 --> 01:50:28,350
travel.state.gov, who are in
charge of your Passport,

1890
01:50:28,950 --> 01:50:31,830
passport, restrictive action and
future passport information.

1891
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:35,250
denial or revocation of a
passport does not prevent the

1892
01:50:35,250 --> 01:50:40,380
use of an outstanding valid
passport. Passport revocation

1893
01:50:40,380 --> 01:50:42,630
may be effected when the person
obtained the passport

1894
01:50:42,630 --> 01:50:46,290
fraudulently. When the passport
was issued an error on the

1895
01:50:46,290 --> 01:50:48,690
passport certificate of
naturalization. naturalization

1896
01:50:48,690 --> 01:50:51,600
was cancelled by a federal court
or when the person would not be

1897
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:55,260
entitled to a new passport. The
physical revocation of a

1898
01:50:55,260 --> 01:50:59,850
passport is often difficult and
an apparently valid passport can

1899
01:50:59,850 --> 01:51:03,030
be used for travel until
officially taken by an arresting

1900
01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:07,650
officer or by a court. In other
words, it's meaningless. Wait a

1901
01:51:07,650 --> 01:51:12,630
minute, wait, it gets better.
revocations are coordinated with

1902
01:51:12,630 --> 01:51:15,750
the Department of Justice and
the requesting agency. A

1903
01:51:15,750 --> 01:51:19,980
passport will not be revoked
when the whereabouts of the

1904
01:51:19,980 --> 01:51:23,760
bearer is unknown. Ah, hello.

1905
01:51:28,530 --> 01:51:30,990
Wow, now that's the price of
admission.

1906
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:35,340
Right? Yeah, I'll read that to
you. Again, this is from the

1907
01:51:35,340 --> 01:51:39,030
State Department. revocations
are coordinated with the

1908
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:43,740
Department of Justice and the
requesting agency. So that would

1909
01:51:43,740 --> 01:51:50,640
in this case be DOJ, NSA, I
presume or DOD, a passport will

1910
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:54,000
not be revoked when the
whereabouts of the bearer is

1911
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:58,950
unknown. When there is a
passport hit on an individual

1912
01:51:58,950 --> 01:52:02,730
within the United States based
on the request, the interested

1913
01:52:02,730 --> 01:52:05,520
law enforcement agency will be
informed with the person's

1914
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:10,020
address so that an arrest can be
made. So the way they're playing

1915
01:52:10,020 --> 01:52:12,870
this, first of all, it can't be
done according to their own

1916
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:14,730
rules. So they break their own
rules. It's all

1917
01:52:14,730 --> 01:52:16,860
these guys that are
pontificating about where he's

1918
01:52:16,860 --> 01:52:19,800
lost his passport now he can't
go anywhere. No, it means

1919
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:24,150
nothing because that literally
saying that, that a revoke

1920
01:52:24,150 --> 01:52:27,060
passport means nothing. It'll
you can use it as a valid

1921
01:52:27,060 --> 01:52:27,840
passport.

1922
01:52:30,030 --> 01:52:33,840
And he could get out of China
the way he did. Yes. And the

1923
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:37,170
only the only point wasn't that
PRC sneaking them out.

1924
01:52:37,559 --> 01:52:40,859
The only point of the revocation
is when you enter the United

1925
01:52:40,859 --> 01:52:44,639
States when you re enter you'll
be arrested. That's an they call

1926
01:52:44,639 --> 01:52:47,279
it a hit literally in this
document. When there's a

1927
01:52:47,279 --> 01:52:53,009
passport hit in quotes. Aha,
that's Hillary's old gang who

1928
01:52:53,009 --> 01:52:58,289
wrote this I'm sure so bullshit.

1929
01:52:59,370 --> 01:53:02,520
Lay the bullshit. Yeah.
Bullshit.

1930
01:53:03,150 --> 01:53:06,450
I'm gonna show my son moved by
donations and no agenda. Imagine

1931
01:53:06,450 --> 01:53:09,180
all the people who could do
that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

1932
01:53:16,290 --> 01:53:19,590
does it take to look this stuff
up? Did it while we were

1933
01:53:19,590 --> 01:53:21,750
talking? Yeah, I know you were
doing something because you

1934
01:53:21,750 --> 01:53:24,330
weren't paying much attention to
me but you're digging away on a

1935
01:53:24,330 --> 01:53:28,350
podcast on the fly on a while
we're doing the show and these

1936
01:53:28,350 --> 01:53:33,150
guys with all their staffs on a
podcast no less Hello, podcasts

1937
01:53:33,150 --> 01:53:35,730
and podcasts all their staffs.
They can't even look something

1938
01:53:35,730 --> 01:53:41,730
up and question there on there's
David Dick Gregory. And he could

1939
01:53:41,730 --> 01:53:44,460
say, well, how do they revoke
his passport when it's clear?

1940
01:53:44,460 --> 01:53:46,890
You can't really do that. Nobody
asks

1941
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:50,880
no because they're reading the
memo because it comes directly

1942
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:52,920
from the Ministry of Truth we
shouldn't

1943
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:57,630
prove this is this horrible what
you were situation where in this

1944
01:53:57,870 --> 01:54:02,730
in all your years, John and all
your 59 years? Have you ever

1945
01:54:02,730 --> 01:54:05,730
felt this bad about the
situation at hand?

1946
01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:08,940
There's nothing like it's
nothing to compare it to? Well,

1947
01:54:08,970 --> 01:54:10,830
that could be good, good the way
you say it could be a good

1948
01:54:10,830 --> 01:54:11,220
thing.

1949
01:54:13,290 --> 01:54:19,050
So we have some people to thank
for the show. To five to $650

1950
01:54:19,050 --> 01:54:23,910
came in from it says Pay Pal is
apparently sending us money. And

1951
01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:27,000
we'd like to call out Google
Wallet as a douchebag. Oh yeah.

1952
01:54:30,210 --> 01:54:35,220
villi errs Strauss in Cape Town.
South Africa. Beautiful place by

1953
01:54:35,220 --> 01:54:40,080
the way. $119.74 City says in
Diogo and Adam and John.

1954
01:54:41,190 --> 01:54:42,960
What? What does he say?

1955
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:44,430
In deogarh and

1956
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:50,850
in Auckland, okay. Okay, so this
is Oh, that's South African

1957
01:54:50,850 --> 01:54:54,420
South African. Yeah. A free
concert in Auckland. In

1958
01:54:54,420 --> 01:54:55,950
Auckland. Yeah.

1959
01:54:57,540 --> 01:55:00,360
He says that he agrees with
that. He says you The recent

1960
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,970
episodes have been fantastic. I
decided to no longer continue to

1961
01:55:02,970 --> 01:55:06,330
be a Boehner with other people.
Please listen to this. I agree

1962
01:55:06,330 --> 01:55:08,940
with Adam that Nelson Mandela
has been dead for a while now.

1963
01:55:08,940 --> 01:55:10,860
We're going to talk about that
right after the break, by the

1964
01:55:10,860 --> 01:55:13,830
way, because I think he I'm now
wondering whether it was alive

1965
01:55:13,830 --> 01:55:18,210
or dead. But whatever the case
was, Obama was snubbed. Oh,

1966
01:55:18,210 --> 01:55:18,960
yeah. Oh, yeah.

1967
01:55:18,990 --> 01:55:19,920
Well, yes. Well

1968
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:22,020
being played. It's no one's
talking about it.

1969
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:26,100
You mean people actually hitting
pictures of him with their

1970
01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:30,420
shoes? Did you see this? No,
I've got the video. It's in the

1971
01:55:30,420 --> 01:55:34,410
shownotes the video and people
carrying signs of him and he and

1972
01:55:34,410 --> 01:55:39,360
it's Obama. And the sign says, I
have changed and it's Obama with

1973
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:45,330
a Hitler mustache. Nice. And I'm
like, they listened to our show.

1974
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:47,820
Hi, everybody. It's pretty
beautiful.

1975
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:53,910
To be orchestrate Hyrule South
Africa. The ruling ANC can

1976
01:55:53,910 --> 01:55:57,120
benefit from him being in
critical condition and from him

1977
01:55:57,120 --> 01:56:00,570
being dead. If all the slaves
keep praying for Mandela to get

1978
01:56:00,570 --> 01:56:03,630
better, they'll forget about the
President's $200 million rent

1979
01:56:04,500 --> 01:56:07,470
$20 million private home built
with taxpayer money and the fact

1980
01:56:07,470 --> 01:56:11,760
that the police go 34 Not 33 but
close. striking miners last year

1981
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:16,500
among other scandals please call
my call Jacob Zuma out as a

1982
01:56:16,500 --> 01:56:22,440
douchebag. And we have the
birthday call out on realistic

1983
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:26,730
okay, we do onward anonymous 100
bucks from Randwick New South

1984
01:56:26,730 --> 01:56:31,170
Wales Australia. You get some
karma for him at the end.

1985
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:37,530
Richard Ballard in 7272 from
Auburn Vermont Andrew laments or

1986
01:56:37,830 --> 01:56:40,890
limb mess city limits city I
think you

1987
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:44,130
skipped over sir Borislav Marin
off

1988
01:56:44,820 --> 01:56:49,410
sir Borislav Marin. Oh sorry.
Aliso Viejo add add he's the one

1989
01:56:49,410 --> 01:56:52,050
who needs some post surgery
since he's a several give it to

1990
01:56:52,050 --> 01:56:55,890
him now. Post surgery recovery
comma to a sensor site Cindy on

1991
01:56:55,890 --> 01:56:56,430
Marinov.

1992
01:56:56,910 --> 01:57:00,690
You've got a good karma. I'm
looking out for the service and

1993
01:57:00,690 --> 01:57:01,350
the dames

1994
01:57:01,650 --> 01:57:07,230
that's at somebody's got to
Andrew. Mess sunny in Colorado

1995
01:57:07,230 --> 01:57:08,310
Springs. Oh,

1996
01:57:08,940 --> 01:57:14,040
oh. Oh, sorry. I'm too busy
looking at the Dames and I

1997
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:15,720
thought it would be over
honestly.

1998
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:18,630
6969

1999
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:23,670
So we have a few of these
Michael Miller and Tiburon 6969.

2000
01:57:23,670 --> 01:57:29,940
Chris Witten in millboro
Virginia 6969. And it looks like

2001
01:57:29,940 --> 01:57:33,240
he's got a knighthood coming.
Charles Walters in Schaumburg,

2002
01:57:33,270 --> 01:57:35,070
Illinois 6969.

2003
01:57:35,670 --> 01:57:38,310
Can I stop you for one second
since he's got a knighthood

2004
01:57:38,310 --> 01:57:43,110
coming today? I think we should
plug his wedding videography

2005
01:57:43,110 --> 01:57:47,640
business. We didn't
productions.com WH Id

2006
01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:52,980
Don productions all one word.com
There you go. And did we close

2007
01:57:52,980 --> 01:57:53,490
the segment?

2008
01:57:54,420 --> 01:57:56,070
barely had time to rewind the
tape

2009
01:57:56,370 --> 01:57:59,370
6969 Did

2010
01:58:00,090 --> 01:58:01,080
the rewind button

2011
01:58:01,110 --> 01:58:03,450
one of these were off. These are
all cassettes and have to stick

2012
01:58:03,450 --> 01:58:05,310
the pencil in and manually
rewind.

2013
01:58:06,690 --> 01:58:13,560
Roth Lee roll Fleeman in violins
back Switzerland or Suisse pile

2014
01:58:14,250 --> 01:58:18,810
6666 Every contribution of this
show is commendable once you

2015
01:58:18,810 --> 01:58:21,390
remind the coal producers out
there's a lot of infrastructure

2016
01:58:21,390 --> 01:58:24,480
in the background for which must
cost a lot. No agenda producers.

2017
01:58:25,230 --> 01:58:28,080
Mr. Oil and his friends are
maintaining this back office for

2018
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:33,900
free. Eric Volkl in Berlin
Deutschland 52

2019
01:58:33,930 --> 01:58:34,800
Cocoa I think

2020
01:58:37,710 --> 01:58:45,120
who? Henry Gerlach Baron in
Placer County 5150 Brian Keefer

2021
01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:52,500
in Durham North Carolina 5150
Mike med Aloni in Chicago at ash

2022
01:58:52,500 --> 01:58:56,580
Sheikh L mu Sani in Muscat,
Oman.

2023
01:58:56,610 --> 01:58:59,940
Hey, this isn't right. Yeah, now
we're branching out.

2024
01:59:01,410 --> 01:59:04,590
It's becoming your first Arab
night Arabian Night.

2025
01:59:04,740 --> 01:59:08,670
So he's saying feel Saba, which
I believe is in the morning in

2026
01:59:08,670 --> 01:59:09,300
Arabic.

2027
01:59:09,420 --> 01:59:15,030
Fie us above el saba. Yeah, he's
just like an Arabic in the

2028
01:59:15,030 --> 01:59:21,600
morning. Please call out Joelle.
Miss Smith sued or miss Sud as a

2029
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:22,350
douchebag.

2030
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:24,930
B also ba

2031
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:29,640
actually that came was Paul.
That was Paul Webb. Yeah. Okay,

2032
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:33,990
sorry. Well, Paul Webb have
called out Joelle as a douchebag

2033
01:59:33,990 --> 01:59:38,970
and he's in Twickenham Middlesex
that's all we got. The $50

2034
01:59:38,970 --> 01:59:39,630
donation I just

2035
01:59:39,630 --> 01:59:43,740
gotta keep saying it's a great
word. Great phrase. He also

2036
01:59:44,100 --> 01:59:46,350
walked by me knocking on the
door pretty soon.

2037
01:59:47,430 --> 01:59:50,310
You can make jokes about it, but
you better hope they don't

2038
01:59:50,310 --> 01:59:51,570
because you know, yeah,

2039
01:59:51,570 --> 01:59:55,410
I know. I'm screwed. We're each
other's ticket, baby. So anyway,

2040
01:59:55,620 --> 01:59:57,780
so I want to thank them and all
the people that came with lesser

2041
01:59:57,780 --> 02:00:01,860
amounts and commentary. We do
read all The notes and tell us

2042
02:00:01,860 --> 02:00:04,890
what you think, you know, we
discussed a lot of these people

2043
02:00:04,890 --> 02:00:07,590
had to do a recommend changes,
you know, like get off the air,

2044
02:00:07,590 --> 02:00:12,600
stuff like that, again, who
ignored those give up. And so

2045
02:00:12,990 --> 02:00:15,270
that's my favorite. Those
things.

2046
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:20,010
Stop before you kill again. Just
give up.

2047
02:00:21,030 --> 02:00:24,390
We want to thank everyone
divorce.org/na. We do have July

2048
02:00:24,390 --> 02:00:27,330
the fourth, we're the only two
guys I know of working on July

2049
02:00:27,330 --> 02:00:30,870
the fourth, in short for your
benefit. So you can keep up with

2050
02:00:30,870 --> 02:00:34,050
what's going on or also
disgusted by what's going on. I

2051
02:00:34,050 --> 02:00:36,930
think also it would be it's,
it's going to be kind of good

2052
02:00:36,930 --> 02:00:40,380
because it's a Thursday. So we
have a long weekend. Here's

2053
02:00:40,380 --> 02:00:42,900
what's going to happen. No one
will be listening to the show on

2054
02:00:42,900 --> 02:00:45,450
Thursday. We know that it's like
it will be a couple of well, the

2055
02:00:45,450 --> 02:00:49,560
Euro the Euro landers will show
up of course, they will be

2056
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:52,170
because there's no change for
them. It's just another Thursday

2057
02:00:53,070 --> 02:00:55,740
to all other countries except
for the United States of Gitmo

2058
02:00:55,740 --> 02:00:59,640
nation, which obviously is still
one of our biggest markets

2059
02:00:59,670 --> 02:01:02,100
waylay me. You're telling me
there's no July the fourth in

2060
02:01:02,100 --> 02:01:08,430
Holland? Right. After July the
third, then

2061
02:01:08,460 --> 02:01:13,320
yeah. Okay. So what will happen
is you're going to be hanging

2062
02:01:13,320 --> 02:01:15,600
out with your friends and
relatives. And Friday is going

2063
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:18,300
to be the big day because you
know, after you're drunk and you

2064
02:01:18,300 --> 02:01:20,550
know, the hot dogs and
everything, and then you just

2065
02:01:20,550 --> 02:01:22,860
stay overnight, and then you're
going to need something to talk

2066
02:01:22,860 --> 02:01:25,350
about. And what's going to come
up is this is going to be this

2067
02:01:25,350 --> 02:01:28,800
whole weekend, regardless of
where you are. It's going to be

2068
02:01:29,100 --> 02:01:32,340
Oh, how about that NSA spying on
you?

2069
02:01:34,020 --> 02:01:34,980
Man,

2070
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:39,450
man, man, another one over
there. Another Bruce.

2071
02:01:41,370 --> 02:01:44,610
And that's when you get to
strike. I had to call AT and T

2072
02:01:44,610 --> 02:01:49,500
today. Because Miss Mickey even
though I had the international

2073
02:01:49,500 --> 02:01:51,870
services set up, maybe it's
because it was a new phone or

2074
02:01:51,870 --> 02:01:54,990
something. It wasn't working.
Yes. It's always happening. It's

2075
02:01:54,990 --> 02:01:58,800
annoying. So I call and the
guy's like, hey, what can I do

2076
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:01,890
for you today? Like, oh, it's
gonna take into this morning

2077
02:02:01,890 --> 02:02:05,100
too. It's like this is going to
take 20 minutes of my life more

2078
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:07,320
and you know, because the he has
to go through the whole script

2079
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:10,530
Do you want how many? How much
data do you want?

2080
02:02:11,250 --> 02:02:14,370
You definitely turn off the data
when you're overseas. But she

2081
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:17,340
she's working she needs to have
some access, so she didn't get

2082
02:02:17,370 --> 02:02:21,210
tell her to get a little card
over there. Oh, John, you can't

2083
02:02:21,210 --> 02:02:23,310
put that into an AT and T phone.

2084
02:02:23,879 --> 02:02:25,859
It won't work and have an
unlocked phone.

2085
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:29,610
Okay, I'm not I'm not going to
play this game with you. Okay,

2086
02:02:29,610 --> 02:02:29,790
go

2087
02:02:29,790 --> 02:02:30,570
on. No,

2088
02:02:31,110 --> 02:02:35,250
he's not a technical she's not I
am hurt to her SIS admin. Okay,

2089
02:02:35,250 --> 02:02:38,010
so she's gonna get a bill this
you're gonna get the shit just

2090
02:02:38,010 --> 02:02:42,360
has to work. And let me tell you
this Apple stuff. It doesn't

2091
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:46,500
just work. It doesn't just work
and then when it when you try to

2092
02:02:46,500 --> 02:02:50,880
get it to work, and just for
simple use of people just want

2093
02:02:50,880 --> 02:02:53,970
to use the device. It cost you
an arm and a leg do all this

2094
02:02:53,970 --> 02:02:56,460
jailbreak. I'm not going to do
that to my wife's iPhone.

2095
02:02:57,450 --> 02:03:01,950
Anyway, the point is, so he then
in this whole thing, because,

2096
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:04,590
well, you know, the data waves
turned off because she was there

2097
02:03:04,590 --> 02:03:07,470
last month was turned on. I'm
gonna make I put a note on your

2098
02:03:07,470 --> 02:03:10,830
account. So you won't get $1,000
bill if it was if you went over

2099
02:03:10,830 --> 02:03:13,890
and like he was going back and
forth this whole rigmarole. And

2100
02:03:13,890 --> 02:03:18,570
I said, well, the NSA has
recorded this call, so I know

2101
02:03:18,570 --> 02:03:27,330
that I can always sue you for
lying to me. Anyone that's

2102
02:03:27,330 --> 02:03:29,610
funny. And that's pretty much
what your relatives will be

2103
02:03:29,610 --> 02:03:33,210
doing this weekend. Oh, well,
they're spying on me. Oh, well,

2104
02:03:33,210 --> 02:03:33,780
whatever.

2105
02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:42,990
Thank you all so much. We really
appreciate here's a big karma

2106
02:03:42,990 --> 02:03:46,800
for everybody who donated is
very very, you've got karma.

2107
02:03:46,830 --> 02:03:50,430
Very, very nice. And there's not
a single show that goes by that.

2108
02:03:50,430 --> 02:03:54,510
I don't think to myself. Holy
crap. Am I a lucky bastard?

2109
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:58,410
Yeah, yeah, live. We're live in
the mac and cheese life. But I'm

2110
02:03:58,410 --> 02:04:01,740
a lucky bastard. I get to do
this. I get to do what I want to

2111
02:04:01,740 --> 02:04:03,720
do. And it's appreciated.

2112
02:04:03,900 --> 02:04:06,390
Yeah. And it's gonna be more
appreciate because I just put it

2113
02:04:06,390 --> 02:04:10,380
in the Red Book. What did you
put in the Red Book? That you

2114
02:04:10,380 --> 02:04:14,610
will be getting a bill for over
$1,000 at&t?

2115
02:04:15,390 --> 02:04:18,900
No, yeah, but then they promised
me that they would take care of

2116
02:04:18,900 --> 02:04:22,410
me. Oh. He promised me

2117
02:04:22,530 --> 02:04:25,020
a promise and the NSA can look
this up. It's gonna cost you

2118
02:04:25,020 --> 02:04:29,910
$5,000 for.org/and

2119
02:04:29,970 --> 02:04:30,480
A.

2120
02:04:37,860 --> 02:04:40,500
And Villiers Strauss
congratulations, his brother

2121
02:04:40,500 --> 02:04:44,430
Stein's new human resource, who
apparently will be born

2122
02:04:44,430 --> 02:04:48,660
tomorrow. Talking about your red
book predictions. Happy birthday

2123
02:04:48,660 --> 02:04:51,930
from your friends here at the
best podcast in the universe.

2124
02:04:56,250 --> 02:05:02,130
All right. Something went wrong
here. I just want to make sure

2125
02:05:02,130 --> 02:05:05,700
we make good on this Erica
Langer a little Swasey enough

2126
02:05:05,700 --> 02:05:09,240
birthday donation for June 20.
Hey John Adam new Boehner here I

2127
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:15,240
want to wish Sean Z from Sean
Francisco, a very happy 29th

2128
02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:18,180
Birthday usually try to talk him
out of donating since we're

2129
02:05:18,180 --> 02:05:22,410
saving for an upcoming wedding.
But who needs dry salmon once

2130
02:05:22,410 --> 02:05:26,760
you've been hitting the mouth?
Yes, I'll take that. A karma for

2131
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:29,280
Shawn if you would please.
Thanks and keep up the great

2132
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:32,880
work from Erika and somehow we
missed it or whatever went

2133
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:36,690
wrong. I apologize profusely and
certainly when it comes to women

2134
02:05:36,690 --> 02:05:40,170
donating on behalf of their
dudes, that's always worth a

2135
02:05:40,170 --> 02:05:48,030
little karma. Shout out. You've
got karma. Nice today, of course

2136
02:05:48,030 --> 02:05:52,200
part of our double producer
ships for us working on July 4,

2137
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:56,760
we have to knighthoods so I will
get my sword out here if you can

2138
02:05:56,760 --> 02:06:06,450
grab yours, John, here. Alright,
Robert Hegedus and Chris wind

2139
02:06:06,450 --> 02:06:10,470
stepped forward, gentlemen. It
is time for you to receive your

2140
02:06:10,470 --> 02:06:15,060
endowments. No, we do not have
motorcades and jets for you. But

2141
02:06:15,060 --> 02:06:17,310
we do have an official
knighthood right here my

2142
02:06:17,310 --> 02:06:20,850
pronouns the SIR RJ Knight of
the Aggie and Sir Chris Witten,

2143
02:06:20,850 --> 02:06:23,250
both nights in the Norwegian
roundtable for you gentlemen.

2144
02:06:24,390 --> 02:06:26,850
Boys in short, and they hot
pants and booze longhaired heavy

2145
02:06:26,850 --> 02:06:29,730
metal guys and Scotch wenches a
bit Rubenesque limited Rosae

2146
02:06:29,970 --> 02:06:32,490
gracious and Saki vodka in the
middle of bong hits and bourbon,

2147
02:06:32,490 --> 02:06:38,040
sparkling cider and escorts and
mutton and Mead. For your

2148
02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:40,950
contributions to the best
podcast in the universe, We

2149
02:06:40,950 --> 02:06:45,600
highly appreciate the support
onward to the baronet's and

2150
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:51,900
subsequently Baron status as you
move up in the world of Sherwood

2151
02:06:51,900 --> 02:06:56,850
Forest I need to I need to talk
about something here or did you

2152
02:06:56,850 --> 02:06:58,170
want to did you have something
you wanted

2153
02:06:58,170 --> 02:07:00,990
a little thing here just to get
your go just to get you in a bad

2154
02:07:00,990 --> 02:07:01,440
mood just

2155
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:02,040
to piss me off?

2156
02:07:02,070 --> 02:07:05,940
Good this'll work so did you see
Bill Maher this now Bill Maher

2157
02:07:05,940 --> 02:07:06,150
you know

2158
02:07:06,150 --> 02:07:08,970
I don't watch him I don't watch
I don't watch television I'm

2159
02:07:08,970 --> 02:07:09,750
done you're gonna

2160
02:07:09,750 --> 02:07:13,290
like this she's so play it
there's actually two of them

2161
02:07:13,290 --> 02:07:16,080
right this one is a little smile
when they had a climate change

2162
02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:20,610
guy on and it was kind of weird
to listen to this clip where

2163
02:07:20,640 --> 02:07:24,090
where the guy word Maher asked
the guy or is it too late? Is it

2164
02:07:24,090 --> 02:07:26,340
too late? We're all gonna die
and the guy says no, it's not

2165
02:07:26,340 --> 02:07:30,030
too late and more in the
background goes Oh good. It's

2166
02:07:30,030 --> 02:07:31,530
just like cheese. What is wrong?

2167
02:07:31,620 --> 02:07:33,630
Is that the one I gotta play?
We'll play that

2168
02:07:33,630 --> 02:07:36,450
one for just best a teaser for
the one that you're gonna get a

2169
02:07:36,450 --> 02:07:38,370
kick out of probably can achieve
that if

2170
02:07:38,370 --> 02:07:40,650
he actually implements the
everything he laid out and

2171
02:07:40,650 --> 02:07:44,580
he said he said the time I love
this quote he said that the time

2172
02:07:44,580 --> 02:07:47,640
for waiting for the Flat Earth
Society to adjourn is over.

2173
02:07:49,590 --> 02:07:54,450
That's the kind of red meat I
like to eat up but you know, is

2174
02:07:54,450 --> 02:07:59,610
it too late? I mean, the time he
was talking about No, not too

2175
02:07:59,610 --> 02:07:59,790
late.

2176
02:07:59,820 --> 02:08:02,880
It is not too late. Great. We
absolutely have within our power

2177
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:06,780
to limit rate change to
tolerable level. It's like

2178
02:08:06,780 --> 02:08:10,260
it's always like Will they still
have chocolate shakes at the at

2179
02:08:10,260 --> 02:08:12,030
the Burger King? Yes. Oh great.

2180
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:18,630
Okay, so now this is the one
this is going to make you Mar

2181
02:08:18,660 --> 02:08:21,930
Mar MA MA Yes. What? Mar

2182
02:08:27,870 --> 02:08:30,810
alright, I bring this up because
besides the heroic Wendy Davis

2183
02:08:30,810 --> 02:08:33,480
there were two stories in the
news last week dealing with

2184
02:08:33,480 --> 02:08:37,110
teenage sex and just to be safe
the evatik initiative denial

2185
02:08:41,850 --> 02:08:47,520
you'll get one story was about
Plan B. That's the morning after

2186
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:51,210
pill that's the the FDA says is
safer than Motrin, and which any

2187
02:08:51,210 --> 02:08:54,120
American can now buy over the
counter just like milk and ammo.

2188
02:08:57,900 --> 02:09:02,460
And because it's a birth control
pill, it will prevent abortions.

2189
02:09:02,700 --> 02:09:06,270
Now the other story was about
the vaccine for HPV, which is

2190
02:09:06,270 --> 02:09:09,900
the STD that leads to cervical
cancer and how that vaccine

2191
02:09:09,900 --> 02:09:13,890
since its introduction in 2006,
has reduced teenage infections

2192
02:09:13,890 --> 02:09:21,180
by 56%. All good news, right?
Wrong. No overrun family values

2193
02:09:21,180 --> 02:09:27,300
world. Things like Plan B and
the HPV vaccine are bad because

2194
02:09:27,300 --> 02:09:30,840
they remove God's natural
intended punishments for slot to

2195
02:09:30,840 --> 02:09:31,080
put.

2196
02:09:39,150 --> 02:09:42,810
A be saddled with a baby you
don't want or be stricken with a

2197
02:09:42,810 --> 02:09:46,140
horrible disease. You don't
think that's how these people

2198
02:09:46,140 --> 02:09:49,200
think then tell me why
conservatives always couched

2199
02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:54,090
their objections to the HPV
vaccine in parental rights, but

2200
02:09:54,090 --> 02:09:57,720
never complain about other state
mandated vaccines their kids

2201
02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:01,380
have to get why not throw a shit
fit About the measles vaccine,

2202
02:10:01,710 --> 02:10:05,220
or mumps, rubella, whooping
cough chickenpox, because you

2203
02:10:05,220 --> 02:10:08,100
don't get those diseases from
screwing or yodeling and the

2204
02:10:08,100 --> 02:10:08,520
Kenyan

2205
02:10:13,500 --> 02:10:15,810
laugh track by the way, total
laugh track

2206
02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:31,710
they do not want a vaccine for
HPV because that's the good kind

2207
02:10:31,710 --> 02:10:34,800
of cancer that makes Huskies
think twice about going all the

2208
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:41,100
way and it's terrible. Ron Paul,
a fucking doctor said this

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02:10:41,100 --> 02:10:44,550
vaccine which prevents 1000s of
cases of a fatal disease was

2210
02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:48,480
quote, not good medicine. And
Michelle Bachman said it caused

2211
02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:53,610
mental retardation per source,
the New England Journal of a

2212
02:10:53,610 --> 02:11:01,140
lady who stopped me on the
street and told me yes,

2213
02:11:01,620 --> 02:11:05,910
Republicans actually think this
vaccine encourages girls to have

2214
02:11:05,910 --> 02:11:09,360
sex because now there are no
consequences. Just the way when

2215
02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:12,960
I got my first tetanus shot, I
couldn't wait to jab rusty nails

2216
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:16,860
into my brain. It was a freebie.

2217
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:21,180
I knew you'd love it.

2218
02:11:22,110 --> 02:11:26,970
He is the first on the train.
He's got a first class ticket.

2219
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:30,810
Yeah, I can't even get into how
ask

2220
02:11:32,820 --> 02:11:36,210
Hey, John, five years. You knew
you I

2221
02:11:36,210 --> 02:11:41,340
love the way the guy does. He
takes it's just like so for it's

2222
02:11:41,340 --> 02:11:45,540
like he's on Mars or Neptune
with his analysis. This is why

2223
02:11:45,540 --> 02:11:46,980
his analysis then

2224
02:11:47,010 --> 02:11:50,760
But then the laugh track or not
the result is the same. The

2225
02:11:50,760 --> 02:11:55,980
audience is like, oh, and then
the hatred for people who have a

2226
02:11:55,980 --> 02:11:59,880
different opinion. And the
science is in and you're a moron

2227
02:11:59,880 --> 02:12:03,660
and Okay, so this this leads me
into what he's he started off

2228
02:12:03,660 --> 02:12:06,690
with the heroic Wendy Davis.

2229
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:09,780
Yes, I knew that you could make
a new segue. Yeah, so thank you.

2230
02:12:09,780 --> 02:12:12,720
It's almost like we planned
this, which of course we didn't.

2231
02:12:13,110 --> 02:12:13,860
Because now

2232
02:12:13,860 --> 02:12:16,170
I don't have to. I'm still
universe plans.

2233
02:12:17,190 --> 02:12:20,400
I'm still picking my jaw up from
the floor. After that clip I

2234
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:23,580
need I'm going to recompose
myself by playing a little

2235
02:12:23,580 --> 02:12:28,740
medley of your mainstream media
and the heroic Wendy Davis.

2236
02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:31,680
Senator, state senator in Tejas

2237
02:12:31,710 --> 02:12:34,800
was alive and unfolding
political drama A woman who

2238
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:37,860
chose to make a stand in front
of her fellow lawmakers and a

2239
02:12:37,860 --> 02:12:41,340
viewing audience that grew based
on word of mouth and social

2240
02:12:41,340 --> 02:12:45,060
media. It went on until the
early hours of this morning and

2241
02:12:45,060 --> 02:12:48,570
the Texas State Senate and by
the time it was over, a lot of

2242
02:12:48,570 --> 02:12:52,470
people knew the name Wendy
Davis. report tonight from NBC

2243
02:12:52,470 --> 02:12:53,370
is Chris Jansen.

2244
02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:59,520
The raucous cheers from the
Texas State House Capitol long

2245
02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:03,510
dramatic session that had
started almost 13 hours earlier.

2246
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:09,480
Democrats were fighting to build
they said would close 37 of the

2247
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:13,110
state's 42 abortion clinics
Republican said it would make

2248
02:13:13,110 --> 02:13:18,390
them safer and expected a win.
Then came Senator Wendy Davis.

2249
02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:21,360
I'm rising on the floor today,

2250
02:13:21,600 --> 02:13:24,870
in an elegant white suit and
comfy pink sneakers. The

2251
02:13:24,870 --> 02:13:30,660
marathon began. Hundreds in the
gallery and lined up outside

2252
02:13:30,810 --> 02:13:35,850
erupted hoping to stall the vote
Brahmi out attempts to pass the

2253
02:13:35,850 --> 02:13:40,050
bill. By then nearly 200,000
viewers have logged into a live

2254
02:13:40,050 --> 02:13:44,010
stream of the event. Amid the
chaos the bill didn't get signed

2255
02:13:44,010 --> 02:13:47,820
in time, an unexpected victory
for a woman who had defied

2256
02:13:47,820 --> 02:13:52,230
expectations before a single
mother of two who graduated with

2257
02:13:52,230 --> 02:13:56,100
honors from Harvard Law School.
And today, a rising political

2258
02:13:56,100 --> 02:13:56,610
star.

2259
02:13:57,060 --> 02:13:59,940
Now what I want to talk about
today, because I follow this,

2260
02:13:59,940 --> 02:14:03,300
and this, of course happened
over a week ago, and I've done a

2261
02:14:03,300 --> 02:14:08,400
lot of thinking about this a lot
of talking to people and I was

2262
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:12,420
trying to figure out why it
bothered me so much. And it

2263
02:14:12,420 --> 02:14:17,730
starts off with I love protests.
I love it when people get

2264
02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:22,200
raucous. And there you see the
video. There were hundreds of

2265
02:14:22,200 --> 02:14:27,510
people inside the Capitol here
at the Capitol building. And you

2266
02:14:27,510 --> 02:14:31,830
know, yelling and screaming, and
I love this. But I have to say

2267
02:14:31,860 --> 02:14:35,040
You are nothing more than a
bunch of icon changers and

2268
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:39,540
you're pathetic. And I'll tell
you why. When you hear all the

2269
02:14:39,540 --> 02:14:42,420
news reports about this
particular bill, Senate Bill

2270
02:14:42,420 --> 02:14:45,810
five, and I have to ask you,
John, what is your impression

2271
02:14:45,810 --> 02:14:48,630
that this bill is about? I know
you haven't read it? I have of

2272
02:14:48,630 --> 02:14:52,110
course. Yeah. What is your
impression of the bill and the

2273
02:14:52,110 --> 02:14:53,640
controversy surrounding it?

2274
02:14:53,670 --> 02:14:56,550
Well, you know, this is funny
because I didn't think much

2275
02:14:56,550 --> 02:14:59,130
about this whole thing or the
bill. It's just seems like a

2276
02:14:59,130 --> 02:15:02,160
Texas bill. It was about Texas
in this Wendy Davis has gotten a

2277
02:15:02,160 --> 02:15:04,470
little attention for herself. I
thought she was just a publicity

2278
02:15:04,470 --> 02:15:08,130
seeker. And I didn't look into
my if it just just from what I

2279
02:15:08,130 --> 02:15:11,400
got from the mainstream media,
although again, I said I didn't

2280
02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:15,330
even bother with it. Was that
close some abortion clinics? And

2281
02:15:16,350 --> 02:15:19,500
it was they hate women in Texas
or something that's about all

2282
02:15:19,500 --> 02:15:20,400
like that's that's

2283
02:15:20,430 --> 02:15:24,930
it right. So the protests, and
it was interesting that the that

2284
02:15:24,930 --> 02:15:30,390
all of the news reports only
bring up the closure of, of

2285
02:15:30,420 --> 02:15:31,980
clinics. And the reason why.

2286
02:15:32,010 --> 02:15:34,380
And by the way, there's by the
way, no, there are that many

2287
02:15:34,380 --> 02:15:35,550
clinics there, but okay,

2288
02:15:35,580 --> 02:15:39,270
well, and it's also this is a
meme that has been propagated,

2289
02:15:39,270 --> 02:15:42,690
there is no to my knowledge,
actual calculation of how many

2290
02:15:42,690 --> 02:15:45,990
clinics would close someone
said, Oh, if you implement these

2291
02:15:45,990 --> 02:15:51,330
rules, and the rules are certain
standards for the for the

2292
02:15:51,330 --> 02:15:54,450
clinics, and they end
predominant, they have to be

2293
02:15:54,450 --> 02:15:59,130
within 30 miles of a hospital.
And therefore a number of them

2294
02:15:59,130 --> 02:16:02,130
would have to close unless of
course they I don't know, like

2295
02:16:02,130 --> 02:16:06,060
improve their situation. So but
that's not what these people

2296
02:16:06,060 --> 02:16:09,060
were protesting. That's what's
interesting about this, because

2297
02:16:09,060 --> 02:16:11,910
I'm so convinced that and this
is a lot of battleground Texas

2298
02:16:11,910 --> 02:16:13,350
Women, you know, the ones like
that,

2299
02:16:13,740 --> 02:16:16,770
right, which I signed up for
their newsletter, and I started

2300
02:16:16,770 --> 02:16:19,530
getting it. And then the next
thing you know, I even signed up

2301
02:16:19,530 --> 02:16:22,740
because it's horrible. Right?
Spammers, right? So a

2302
02:16:22,740 --> 02:16:25,950
lot of battleground Texas Women
were there. They were all saying

2303
02:16:26,310 --> 02:16:33,150
men, particularly Republican men
stay out of my womb. And so they

2304
02:16:33,150 --> 02:16:37,260
weren't they there's like, you
want to control our bodies

2305
02:16:37,260 --> 02:16:40,770
control when we want to have an
abortion, and you want to make

2306
02:16:40,770 --> 02:16:44,640
it impossible for us to have an
abortion. And I'm looking at

2307
02:16:44,640 --> 02:16:47,880
okay, I have to read this bill,
what is in this because all I'm

2308
02:16:47,880 --> 02:16:50,910
hearing from women around me who
have not read the bill, who only

2309
02:16:50,910 --> 02:16:53,820
get their information from
mainstream media, data funded

2310
02:16:53,820 --> 02:16:56,250
Republicans, they want to tell
me what happened, bam, you're

2311
02:16:56,250 --> 02:17:00,300
not. Okay, you're angry, I get
it. You don't like men telling

2312
02:17:00,300 --> 02:17:05,820
you what to do. So the bill, it
specifies very clearly. And

2313
02:17:05,820 --> 02:17:08,610
that's part two of the bill. By
the way, it's almost a minor

2314
02:17:08,610 --> 02:17:13,620
part about what that a clinic
has to adhere to certain

2315
02:17:13,620 --> 02:17:17,310
standards, which I think is kind
of fair. But you know, there's

2316
02:17:17,310 --> 02:17:22,590
all of this pontification that
because of the proximity, it'll

2317
02:17:22,590 --> 02:17:25,380
have to be you know, they're
gonna have to close so many. But

2318
02:17:25,380 --> 02:17:32,490
look, you can drive anywhere in
Texas in a day. You know, if so,

2319
02:17:32,490 --> 02:17:35,880
if you if you get an A boy, I
mean, we we truly in the stone

2320
02:17:35,880 --> 02:17:40,350
age's in Texas, that the
distance you have to draw and

2321
02:17:40,350 --> 02:17:44,430
people in Texas drive for days
to get anywhere, that if you

2322
02:17:44,430 --> 02:17:46,860
really feel you need an
abortion, I mean, it's okay.

2323
02:17:47,190 --> 02:17:51,180
It's for some reason, this is a
problem. I'll give you that. The

2324
02:17:51,180 --> 02:17:56,400
main part of the bill was about
the and this goes, this goes to

2325
02:17:56,400 --> 02:18:00,120
the core, the core of the
argument in America, Roe versus

2326
02:18:00,120 --> 02:18:08,160
Wade, etc. is when is human life
a life? At what point is a life

2327
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:12,270
a human being? And does that
human being or life have rights,

2328
02:18:12,630 --> 02:18:19,530
and I was astounded to find that
what was being proposed was a 20

2329
02:18:19,560 --> 02:18:27,720
week cut off. That's five
months. I was Wow. So what and

2330
02:18:27,720 --> 02:18:30,420
this is Texas, I'm like this is
this is supposed to be the most

2331
02:18:30,480 --> 02:18:33,480
hick, redneck crazy ass
Republican state in the

2332
02:18:33,480 --> 02:18:37,920
universe. And they're actually
saying, Well, if you want to

2333
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:41,340
have an abortion, after five
months of being pregnant, you've

2334
02:18:41,340 --> 02:18:45,090
had five months. And typically
you don't announce a pregnancy

2335
02:18:45,090 --> 02:18:47,700
until three months, but then
five, I remember when when when

2336
02:18:47,700 --> 02:18:50,580
my ex wife was pregnant, five
months, this, we were talking to

2337
02:18:50,580 --> 02:18:54,030
this did this thing like it was
a kid, five months is a big

2338
02:18:54,030 --> 02:18:57,690
deal. I personally feel that
then, you know, there's

2339
02:18:57,690 --> 02:19:00,090
something that has rights, but
that's it's kind of irrelevant

2340
02:19:00,180 --> 02:19:05,640
five months. And they're not
saying it's forbidden. Not

2341
02:19:05,640 --> 02:19:09,930
saying that at all. They're
saying, you know, then we have

2342
02:19:09,930 --> 02:19:11,910
to have some questions. You
know, there has to be some

2343
02:19:11,910 --> 02:19:14,250
really good reasons. If you've
been pregnant for five months,

2344
02:19:14,250 --> 02:19:19,050
about five months to do this.
Now women are get insane when

2345
02:19:19,050 --> 02:19:22,890
you lease these women, when you
when you put any type of

2346
02:19:22,890 --> 02:19:25,500
restriction on it. And I
personally, you know, I've

2347
02:19:25,590 --> 02:19:28,080
changed my views throughout the
years. I'm thinking, Well, you

2348
02:19:28,080 --> 02:19:31,320
know, if you really look at pure
human rights, you know, the

2349
02:19:31,320 --> 02:19:33,330
Human Rights start when you pop
out of the womb, when does it

2350
02:19:33,330 --> 02:19:35,700
start earlier? But that's my
personal conviction doesn't

2351
02:19:35,700 --> 02:19:40,890
matter. The problem I have is
that here are these icon

2352
02:19:40,890 --> 02:19:44,010
changers who go there, and
they're supporting their

2353
02:19:44,010 --> 02:19:47,520
mythical hero, Wendy Davis, and
hurdle shoes. You go look at the

2354
02:19:47,520 --> 02:19:51,180
Amazon review for the shoes like
1000 comments and one's more

2355
02:19:51,180 --> 02:19:57,150
hilarious than the next. And I'm
like, where is the protest for

2356
02:19:57,150 --> 02:20:02,730
all the real outrage in this
country? And why are you not why

2357
02:20:02,730 --> 02:20:06,030
do I not see you come out for
that you come on for this you

2358
02:20:06,030 --> 02:20:09,060
spend 10 hours of your day,
hooting and hollering about

2359
02:20:09,060 --> 02:20:15,240
something that you really is is
very manageable I believe. And

2360
02:20:15,240 --> 02:20:18,960
you go home and you change your
icon and you tweet tear Sarah

2361
02:20:18,960 --> 02:20:23,010
Palin and she's an idiot. But do
you ever complain about the

2362
02:20:23,010 --> 02:20:25,770
other things that happen with
your body and your reproductive

2363
02:20:25,770 --> 02:20:28,710
rights? Do you ever protest
about the fluoride and other

2364
02:20:28,710 --> 02:20:31,590
crap they're putting in your
water which directly affects

2365
02:20:31,710 --> 02:20:35,880
your your child or can even give
you spontaneous abortions?

2366
02:20:36,120 --> 02:20:40,020
Genetically Modified shifting
your food? Can trails you being

2367
02:20:40,020 --> 02:20:44,520
sprayed like bugs? And then what
if you do decide to have a

2368
02:20:44,520 --> 02:20:48,870
child? Do do you go out there
and protest for the actual

2369
02:20:48,870 --> 02:20:52,200
vaccinations and a host like
Bill Maher who are telling you,

2370
02:20:52,290 --> 02:20:55,110
you did stick your children with
all kinds of crap that they

2371
02:20:55,140 --> 02:20:58,740
absolutely do not need? Do you
ever look at what really could

2372
02:20:58,740 --> 02:21:01,500
be beneficial would not be
beneficial. Or then you send

2373
02:21:01,500 --> 02:21:04,440
your kid to school and you give
them psychotropic drugs like

2374
02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:08,070
Adderall and all this other crap
as it could be in the slave

2375
02:21:08,070 --> 02:21:11,580
training institutions we call
schools and then to add insult

2376
02:21:11,580 --> 02:21:15,450
to injury because you're so a
pathetic about the economy and

2377
02:21:15,450 --> 02:21:18,450
the society that you're part of
and your mental attitude towards

2378
02:21:18,450 --> 02:21:22,620
everything else except some icon
changing event. You allow your

2379
02:21:22,620 --> 02:21:25,590
kids to take a job and the only
place that still offers a jobs,

2380
02:21:25,590 --> 02:21:29,010
which is the military, so they
can get their shit blown off or

2381
02:21:29,010 --> 02:21:31,920
fighting some other futurists
kids in the fucking sand.

2382
02:21:32,040 --> 02:21:38,520
Where's all the writing and
campaigning for that? See?

2383
02:21:42,600 --> 02:21:45,720
So this is the one you've been
sitting on this little rant?

2384
02:21:45,750 --> 02:21:47,520
Yeah. Yeah.

2385
02:21:48,690 --> 02:21:49,530
makes me mad.

2386
02:21:50,790 --> 02:21:53,400
Yeah, like it was you didn't
seem to you seem to be into it.

2387
02:21:55,440 --> 02:21:57,120
Ah, I feel much better now.

2388
02:21:58,590 --> 02:22:00,060
This is why I love doing this
show.

2389
02:22:00,870 --> 02:22:03,630
You get it out of your system, I
hope? Oh, yeah. No, it's

2390
02:22:03,630 --> 02:22:07,320
out of my system. I just get a
little annoyed by I talked to

2391
02:22:07,320 --> 02:22:09,780
the chicken lady at the market.
She's pretty funny. She loves

2392
02:22:09,780 --> 02:22:15,300
our show, by the way. And, and,
and she and she's very, very no

2393
02:22:15,300 --> 02:22:20,250
agenda. And she said, Oh, it's
so I'm so excited. I'm so sad

2394
02:22:20,400 --> 02:22:24,660
that Carrie and Carrie that Mitt
Romney didn't win. I'm like, Are

2395
02:22:24,660 --> 02:22:28,500
you kidding me? So you want that
eight holes present should but

2396
02:22:28,500 --> 02:22:32,490
then at least we'd have real
protests. I'm like, Yes, that's

2397
02:22:32,490 --> 02:22:33,480
true. Wow, what

2398
02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:36,750
a great line. I said I gotta use
that line. You're so you're so

2399
02:22:36,750 --> 02:22:40,170
right. We would have had real
protests, people getting really

2400
02:22:40,170 --> 02:22:45,390
angry. I says no, because no,
you can't offend Obama in which

2401
02:22:45,390 --> 02:22:47,640
is true. And I think we should
probably move on to this now

2402
02:22:47,640 --> 02:22:52,590
that Obama, have we seen this on
American television. Of course

2403
02:22:52,590 --> 02:22:54,000
it is on our T

2404
02:22:54,180 --> 02:22:58,770
US president who's on his first
visit to Africa since 2009, has

2405
02:22:58,770 --> 02:23:02,640
pledged $7 billion to help build
up the shaky electric power

2406
02:23:02,640 --> 02:23:06,720
grids of sub Saharan countries.
The move is being seen as an

2407
02:23:06,720 --> 02:23:10,380
effort by Washington to step in
and rival China as a key

2408
02:23:10,380 --> 02:23:13,800
investor on the continent but
Barack Obama has been met by

2409
02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:18,480
protesters angry at unfulfilled
pledges he made last time around

2410
02:23:18,720 --> 02:23:21,780
Washington has slashed aid to
Africa in recent years while

2411
02:23:21,780 --> 02:23:25,080
stepping up controversial
military activity in the region.

2412
02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:28,410
As anti American protests
spiraled out of control in

2413
02:23:28,410 --> 02:23:32,310
Johannesburg stung grenades and
warning shots were fired by riot

2414
02:23:32,310 --> 02:23:36,030
police. Hundreds have also been
demonstrating in Pretoria and

2415
02:23:36,030 --> 02:23:40,200
Cape Town, South African
politician Solly my Pilar says

2416
02:23:40,230 --> 02:23:43,620
America's pursuit of his
economic interest comes at a

2417
02:23:43,620 --> 02:23:45,570
heavy price for the continent.

2418
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:48,210
And this is what is amazing.

2419
02:23:48,870 --> 02:23:51,750
The Russians are bad. Yes. And
what

2420
02:23:51,750 --> 02:23:56,370
but what amazes me is that we so
now so this is what Obama is

2421
02:23:56,370 --> 02:23:59,970
doing in Africa. He's gone over
there. So no, I'm unveiled. So

2422
02:23:59,970 --> 02:24:03,990
hello, hello, poor Africans.
Hello, black people. This is

2423
02:24:04,020 --> 02:24:07,380
totally what he's doing. Hello
black people of Africa. You poor

2424
02:24:07,380 --> 02:24:11,010
saps. I'm bringing you
electricity. We have this thing

2425
02:24:11,010 --> 02:24:15,060
we developed called electricity.
So you and Ethiopia, Ghana and

2426
02:24:15,060 --> 02:24:17,940
Kenya. We're going to put you on
this electricity stuff. It'll be

2427
02:24:17,940 --> 02:24:25,560
great. And I'm going to use the
O P. I see. Yes. Have you heard

2428
02:24:25,560 --> 02:24:27,840
of the O P. I see John.

2429
02:24:29,880 --> 02:24:34,950
I want to hear about short. The
Overseas Private Investment

2430
02:24:34,950 --> 02:24:39,900
Corporation yes.gov bongos was
an American operation. Well,

2431
02:24:39,900 --> 02:24:42,690
it's a government operation.
Yeah, government operation is O

2432
02:24:42,690 --> 02:24:43,770
P IC.

2433
02:24:43,980 --> 02:24:49,380
Let's go straight to the Board
of Directors of the OPI See,

2434
02:24:49,740 --> 02:24:54,180
this is the economic hitmen are
out of business. The government

2435
02:24:54,180 --> 02:24:59,220
has become the economic hitman
on the board. Littlefield who's

2436
02:24:59,220 --> 02:25:05,490
the chair Rajiv Shah is the US
AI D which is basically State

2437
02:25:05,490 --> 02:25:11,250
Department CIA. Ambassador,
Miriam Shapiro, United States

2438
02:25:11,250 --> 02:25:14,550
Trade Representative. Mr. Okay,
but look on the right hand side,

2439
02:25:15,210 --> 02:25:19,470
Kennedy, Director Kennedy
enterprises, and we have CEO

2440
02:25:19,500 --> 02:25:19,950
Gail

2441
02:25:20,369 --> 02:25:23,759
foods. And then we have li
visors. All

2442
02:25:24,059 --> 02:25:28,769
right Stonebridge Madeline
Albright. Those are the economic

2443
02:25:28,769 --> 02:25:29,399
hitman

2444
02:25:30,149 --> 02:25:35,759
Demers Bleasdale Tory family
office The hell's that? Look

2445
02:25:35,759 --> 02:25:36,419
into that one

2446
02:25:37,080 --> 02:25:38,190
$7 billion.

2447
02:25:38,670 --> 02:25:41,730
They had an AFS me. So, to me,
guys

2448
02:25:41,760 --> 02:25:47,970
$7 billion is going to be given
to American corporations to go

2449
02:25:47,970 --> 02:25:51,900
over there and do exactly what
the Chinese had been doing for

2450
02:25:51,900 --> 02:25:52,590
years.

2451
02:25:52,800 --> 02:25:55,290
But the Chinese have been doing
this for over a decade.

2452
02:25:55,320 --> 02:26:01,290
Yes. And so we come in with our
drones in Djibouti and Djibouti

2453
02:26:01,290 --> 02:26:01,740
are the people

2454
02:26:01,740 --> 02:26:03,840
who are there protesting. Yeah,

2455
02:26:03,900 --> 02:26:07,410
they're like, dudes, we have the
Chinese were happy. They built

2456
02:26:07,410 --> 02:26:07,920
the roads.

2457
02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:09,990
They built the infrastructure.
They're built the dams, a lot of

2458
02:26:09,990 --> 02:26:11,940
them they don't finish so they
can scan the peep. And now

2459
02:26:11,940 --> 02:26:12,090
you're

2460
02:26:12,090 --> 02:26:14,550
coming in and showing me fire
and telling me it's something

2461
02:26:14,580 --> 02:26:15,210
beautiful.

2462
02:26:16,290 --> 02:26:18,540
We have something called we'll

2463
02:26:20,370 --> 02:26:24,330
insult. And there's and there's
some professional organizations

2464
02:26:24,330 --> 02:26:27,240
protesting because you can see
the signs. The signs are

2465
02:26:27,240 --> 02:26:31,080
professionally made with really
good American slogans. But the

2466
02:26:31,080 --> 02:26:36,300
one with Obama with a Hitler
mustache is hilarious. And what

2467
02:26:36,300 --> 02:26:40,170
do they call them? Top? Top
assassin in the world. That was

2468
02:26:40,170 --> 02:26:41,970
a good one. We

2469
02:26:41,970 --> 02:26:44,340
Well, Russia. This is the
Russians. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We

2470
02:26:44,340 --> 02:26:47,400
welcome that. And we're gonna
start we're going to be on this

2471
02:26:47,400 --> 02:26:50,580
proxy war. I think more on this
show now that as we become more

2472
02:26:50,580 --> 02:26:54,390
aware of some of the details,
and when, when this situation

2473
02:26:54,390 --> 02:26:57,540
occurred in South Africa and
ended up that fact that Obama

2474
02:26:57,540 --> 02:27:01,770
went all the way down there was
snubbed by Mandela, we'll see

2475
02:27:01,770 --> 02:27:05,340
him Yeah. And of course, we'll
start to see memes about well,

2476
02:27:05,370 --> 02:27:09,450
Mandela apparently was not happy
about the drones about

2477
02:27:09,450 --> 02:27:12,750
assassinating people even
Mondale is dead. Yeah, there's

2478
02:27:12,750 --> 02:27:15,570
gonna be all this kind of
messaging going on. The Russians

2479
02:27:15,600 --> 02:27:19,770
are behind it all because they
have given up on trying to be

2480
02:27:19,770 --> 02:27:20,520
our friends.

2481
02:27:22,260 --> 02:27:26,130
And the only good Russian is a
dead Russian John, what do you

2482
02:27:26,130 --> 02:27:27,540
say? Yeah, sounds

2483
02:27:27,540 --> 02:27:31,290
right. This is exactly what
we're gonna start seeing. It'll

2484
02:27:31,290 --> 02:27:34,350
be interesting the way they
sneak it into the general

2485
02:27:34,380 --> 02:27:38,490
public. Eric kind Yeah, that the
Russians are our enemies.

2486
02:27:38,550 --> 02:27:42,150
Yes. Yeah. It's so and so

2487
02:27:42,539 --> 02:27:44,909
starting to fool around but
they're just because they can't

2488
02:27:44,909 --> 02:27:47,099
take it anymore. And what's the
scariest thing was the end of

2489
02:27:47,099 --> 02:27:49,019
the line for them? That was
their last port?

2490
02:27:49,050 --> 02:27:52,620
And have you heard about the the
internet cables all around

2491
02:27:52,620 --> 02:27:56,580
Africa being cut? Uh, yeah, I
have heard about like, every

2492
02:27:56,580 --> 02:28:01,260
three weeks it's called again.
Yeah, so who's doing this? I

2493
02:28:01,260 --> 02:28:03,900
don't know. If you

2494
02:28:03,900 --> 02:28:05,700
look armies you got three
players. You got the United

2495
02:28:05,700 --> 02:28:09,810
States, two Chinese who are
playing coy even though they're

2496
02:28:09,810 --> 02:28:12,330
the ones getting that got the
biggest screw job from us in

2497
02:28:12,330 --> 02:28:15,420
Africa and the Russians who just
can't take it anymore right

2498
02:28:15,450 --> 02:28:15,750
Alright, so

2499
02:28:15,750 --> 02:28:20,310
let's play this game go to
maps.google.com I did this the

2500
02:28:20,310 --> 02:28:24,690
other day and it just made me
crazy maps.google.com And let's

2501
02:28:24,690 --> 02:28:28,320
just type in just for shits and
giggles we'll just type in

2502
02:28:28,530 --> 02:28:32,940
Israel because that'll give you
kind of a center point All

2503
02:28:32,940 --> 02:28:37,260
right, you got to zoom out all
right. Excuse me zoom out from

2504
02:28:37,260 --> 02:28:39,030
Israel you're doing it Yeah, I'm

2505
02:28:39,240 --> 02:28:40,530
looking at Israel now. Okay,

2506
02:28:40,830 --> 02:28:43,560
zoom out so you so you know
that's kind of your center point

2507
02:28:43,560 --> 02:28:49,260
and then you see okay, we
started the top left Tunisia got

2508
02:28:49,260 --> 02:28:55,200
it. Then we go Libya. Got it.
Then we go Egypt got it. Then we

2509
02:28:55,200 --> 02:28:59,730
go Israel. Got it. Let me go
Jordan. Got it. Let me go Libya.

2510
02:29:00,090 --> 02:29:04,530
Lebanon, just about got it.
There we go. Iraq. Got it.

2511
02:29:04,530 --> 02:29:08,370
Syria. Got it. Turkey. Got it.
Do you see what's happening? Do

2512
02:29:08,370 --> 02:29:13,320
you see this entire ring all
around the northern part of

2513
02:29:13,320 --> 02:29:17,790
Africa and and the and the
western part of the Middle East.

2514
02:29:18,180 --> 02:29:22,260
It's a total ring, a total
buffer zone, which is locking

2515
02:29:22,260 --> 02:29:26,310
out Russia and anything they
want to bring from the right

2516
02:29:26,310 --> 02:29:33,210
hand side. Now the crazy thing,
if you type in 33 North 33 east

2517
02:29:34,050 --> 02:29:37,260
on the map, it puts you right
smack in the middle of the

2518
02:29:37,260 --> 02:29:38,790
leviathan gasfield.

2519
02:29:44,190 --> 02:29:47,430
puts me on 33 North 33rd Street
San Jose,

2520
02:29:48,450 --> 02:29:52,770
you got to do three three and
yes, that's where the Leviathan

2521
02:29:52,770 --> 02:29:53,040
guy

2522
02:29:55,500 --> 02:29:57,630
he that's the Mecca right there.

2523
02:29:58,590 --> 02:29:59,970
You gotta find out who this guy
is.

2524
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,650
That man, I need to shake his
hand. Exactly. There's your

2525
02:30:04,650 --> 02:30:09,210
proxy. And this is global
geopolitics on a global scale

2526
02:30:09,420 --> 02:30:17,520
that most people cannot imagine.
Because they're and you should

2527
02:30:17,520 --> 02:30:21,690
anyone who's listening to this
program, Count yourself like a

2528
02:30:21,690 --> 02:30:27,270
lucky bastard. Because you have
some understanding of what's

2529
02:30:27,270 --> 02:30:31,980
going on in the world, despite
every effort being made to

2530
02:30:31,980 --> 02:30:35,670
deprogram you and put in new
information of important things

2531
02:30:35,670 --> 02:30:37,590
like, well,

2532
02:30:38,940 --> 02:30:44,490
Lindsay Lohan. Exactly. No, I
think it's a very positive thing

2533
02:30:44,490 --> 02:30:47,670
for people to do. So it's kind
of relaxing to know what's going

2534
02:30:47,670 --> 02:30:52,080
on. Even if they don't have all
the Alicia No, you're not being

2535
02:30:52,080 --> 02:30:54,780
suckered into believing all this
weird crap that they keep

2536
02:30:54,780 --> 02:30:57,480
throwing out there. But So
anyway, this front page of The

2537
02:30:57,480 --> 02:31:00,090
Sunday Times when by the way,
I'm killing my New York Times

2538
02:31:00,090 --> 02:31:03,810
subscription, so maybe take a
Sunday only and I do use some of

2539
02:31:03,810 --> 02:31:06,780
the online resources. But it's
ridiculous. You pile up

2540
02:31:06,780 --> 02:31:09,060
newspapers, they pile up, pile
up, you don't get the read half

2541
02:31:09,060 --> 02:31:11,850
of this stuff. And this stuff is
dumb. There's not too many

2542
02:31:11,850 --> 02:31:16,710
features is a bunch of dumped
orders, right? So it's gone.

2543
02:31:16,740 --> 02:31:17,400
It's dumb.

2544
02:31:17,400 --> 02:31:20,490
You're right. Oh, can you put
something in the book for me?

2545
02:31:21,150 --> 02:31:31,200
Yeah, July 12. Okay, July 12,
July 12, riots in Ireland. Big,

2546
02:31:31,200 --> 02:31:37,470
big, big riots. To me, Northern
Ireland. I'll tell you why. Of

2547
02:31:37,470 --> 02:31:38,100
course, by the way, I

2548
02:31:38,100 --> 02:31:41,730
want to mention that this coming
week is the IS is FBI six weeks

2549
02:31:41,760 --> 02:31:43,680
cycle time. Oh, perfect.

2550
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:46,380
Well, that's Fourth of July. We
predicted something big on

2551
02:31:46,380 --> 02:31:47,520
Fourth of July, right? Yeah,

2552
02:31:47,550 --> 02:31:49,860
yeah, we've been predicting it
for I don't know, months. That's

2553
02:31:49,860 --> 02:31:51,390
why we'll be live on the air.

2554
02:31:52,260 --> 02:31:56,850
We will stop until the FBI
strikes. So the Irish if you

2555
02:31:56,850 --> 02:32:00,840
have not heard the tapes of
Anglo bank, Fitzgerald and Bo,

2556
02:32:00,840 --> 02:32:04,620
these two douchebags who were
sitting there laughing about

2557
02:32:04,650 --> 02:32:09,090
going to the Irish regulator,
and saying, oh, we need 7

2558
02:32:09,090 --> 02:32:12,540
billion euros to plug our hole
and you're we're never paying

2559
02:32:12,540 --> 02:32:16,230
you back ever. were put in there
laughing about it. When these

2560
02:32:16,230 --> 02:32:20,760
tapes came out, and and there's
a hashtag boy, yeah, the icon

2561
02:32:20,760 --> 02:32:24,270
changers at work, has a hashtag
Anglo bank and jailed the

2562
02:32:24,270 --> 02:32:30,570
bankers. But on July 12, and we
have several Irish producers out

2563
02:32:30,570 --> 02:32:34,890
there. Because I said, they sent
me these links and I put the I'm

2564
02:32:34,890 --> 02:32:37,140
not gonna play it for you. It's
kind of hard to hear. You can

2565
02:32:37,140 --> 02:32:39,360
listen to it on your own just in
the show notes five to six on

2566
02:32:39,360 --> 02:32:43,440
nhl.com you can listen to the
douchebags laughing about how

2567
02:32:43,440 --> 02:32:45,390
they're going to screw the
public. And it turned out to be

2568
02:32:45,390 --> 02:32:48,330
more like 30 billion the seven
was just kind of a down payment.

2569
02:32:49,230 --> 02:32:52,680
And I said to these producers,
well, this Yeah, yeah. Wow.

2570
02:32:52,680 --> 02:32:56,760
Where's all the writing? Where
are you? Where are your? Where's

2571
02:32:56,760 --> 02:33:02,220
everyone running around and, and
causing a ruckus to there's not

2572
02:33:02,250 --> 02:33:06,450
nothing gonna happen? And they
point to July 12. And if you

2573
02:33:06,450 --> 02:33:11,880
look at the bank of the book of
knowledge, July 12, in Ireland

2574
02:33:11,910 --> 02:33:16,710
is already a huge ruckus day.
Are you familiar with this?

2575
02:33:17,700 --> 02:33:22,020
Okay, so July 12, you're gonna
It's just called the 1212. In

2576
02:33:22,020 --> 02:33:26,160
the Orange Order. I'll read from
the book of knowledge. A yearly

2577
02:33:26,160 --> 02:33:29,460
Protestant celebration held on
12th of July, originally in

2578
02:33:29,460 --> 02:33:33,150
Ireland during the 18th century,
celebrates the Glorious

2579
02:33:33,150 --> 02:33:35,640
Revolution and victory of
Protestant King William of

2580
02:33:35,640 --> 02:33:40,740
Orange, the Dutch douche over a
Catholic King James a second. So

2581
02:33:40,740 --> 02:33:43,950
what happens is everyone parades
around in their colors up there

2582
02:33:43,950 --> 02:33:45,750
in Northern Ireland, and they
always there's always some

2583
02:33:45,750 --> 02:33:50,850
kerfuffle and some fighting
prediction. July 12, will be a

2584
02:33:50,850 --> 02:33:54,720
massive, massive protest in
Northern Ireland. And with a

2585
02:33:54,720 --> 02:33:57,690
little bit of luck, it'll all
just be about killing bankers.

2586
02:33:59,280 --> 02:34:02,070
I'm just hope I'm just hopeful.
I'm in jail. I'm sorry that I

2587
02:34:02,070 --> 02:34:07,530
say kill. I'm sorry. I'm in
jail, the bankers and it could

2588
02:34:07,530 --> 02:34:11,190
just be a massive hashtag.
Because that's pretty much par

2589
02:34:11,190 --> 02:34:14,190
for the typical citizen of the
universe these days.

2590
02:34:15,030 --> 02:34:15,930
Yeah, man.

2591
02:34:17,040 --> 02:34:27,750
Man, hashtag man. Ah, okay. I
think you must have something I

2592
02:34:27,750 --> 02:34:31,680
know I got a couple of fillers.
Let's not bother with the

2593
02:34:31,680 --> 02:34:32,640
filler. Once you're

2594
02:34:33,030 --> 02:34:36,390
good Phil. I want you to listen
to this. This is Stossel just to

2595
02:34:36,390 --> 02:34:38,700
get an award for being a
libertarian to actually gets

2596
02:34:38,700 --> 02:34:44,820
airtime which is quite a feat.
It is quite a feat. So he is did

2597
02:34:44,820 --> 02:34:47,760
a couple of things that caught
us. I'll just play one of them.

2598
02:34:48,480 --> 02:34:54,300
I play the I'm gonna we're gonna
play the prostitution clip. And

2599
02:34:54,300 --> 02:34:57,510
we're going and I want to he's
got a bunch of girls from the

2600
02:34:57,540 --> 02:34:59,340
one of the bunny ranches in
Nevada.

2601
02:34:59,370 --> 02:35:02,160
Why did they Was that that's so
lame.

2602
02:35:02,610 --> 02:35:05,910
And it was if they're cute, it's
why Oh, come on, it's totally

2603
02:35:05,910 --> 02:35:06,630
lame.

2604
02:35:06,690 --> 02:35:10,860
And then he's got some woman
who's arguing with them. And

2605
02:35:10,860 --> 02:35:12,930
then of course, they follow the
whole thing. And apparently

2606
02:35:12,930 --> 02:35:15,810
Harry Reid, I didn't know this
is trying to abolish

2607
02:35:15,810 --> 02:35:19,950
prostitution in the state.
Taking risks.

2608
02:35:20,849 --> 02:35:22,979
Totally fine, just ruin the
state.

2609
02:35:23,160 --> 02:35:28,080
But just listen to this punt
this this, this sanctimonious

2610
02:35:28,080 --> 02:35:34,320
woman, q&a out these prostitutes
for being you know, having a job

2611
02:35:34,320 --> 02:35:34,770
essentially,

2612
02:35:35,310 --> 02:35:37,770
like it is your own choice. If

2613
02:35:37,770 --> 02:35:40,950
you want to do it, do it. And if
you don't like it, then leave.

2614
02:35:41,040 --> 02:35:43,800
I'm happy that you're happy.
That's terrific. The fact that

2615
02:35:43,800 --> 02:35:47,130
you are having a good time, it's
not an excuse to ignore the

2616
02:35:47,130 --> 02:35:51,600
harm. Tell me why it's so bad
for me, darling, it isn't about

2617
02:35:51,600 --> 02:35:55,650
you, and the USA, USA, we get
our results. I have been nothing

2618
02:35:55,650 --> 02:35:59,340
but happy. I believe that the
majority of prostituted women

2619
02:35:59,340 --> 02:36:04,020
suffer harm that is so serious,
I would compromise your freedom

2620
02:36:04,050 --> 02:36:06,840
to protect the majority of
women. Absolutely. So you

2621
02:36:06,840 --> 02:36:09,540
want to basically tell everybody
in the world what they can and

2622
02:36:09,540 --> 02:36:11,880
can't do with their own bodies.
And everybody would

2623
02:36:11,880 --> 02:36:14,100
like to live, I would like to
live in a world where people

2624
02:36:14,100 --> 02:36:15,600
didn't hurt each other. You
should be

2625
02:36:15,600 --> 02:36:19,350
ashamed of yourself. The Senate
majority leader agrees the time

2626
02:36:19,350 --> 02:36:21,300
has come to outlaw prostitution.

2627
02:36:21,480 --> 02:36:24,960
That is, that is a great point
that I should have put in my

2628
02:36:24,960 --> 02:36:30,360
rant. There. Everyone's so like,
oh, you know, I'm the boss of my

2629
02:36:30,360 --> 02:36:33,030
own body, but then you get this
like, but we have to outlaw

2630
02:36:33,030 --> 02:36:35,940
prostitution. And by the way,
you know,

2631
02:36:36,539 --> 02:36:40,019
it's the same woman that woman
that you're bitching about in

2632
02:36:40,019 --> 02:36:42,599
your brand is the same woman
who's sitting there telling

2633
02:36:42,599 --> 02:36:45,179
these girls that they can't do
that and she'd be glad to take

2634
02:36:45,179 --> 02:36:48,659
their freedoms away to save them
right? Yes, the same woman.

2635
02:36:48,689 --> 02:36:51,839
Yeah. And I can switch and I'm
always

2636
02:36:51,870 --> 02:36:56,490
amazed that women say You know,
I want to have an abortion and

2637
02:36:56,490 --> 02:36:59,880
you know what the right to kill
my fetus whatever. But then

2638
02:36:59,880 --> 02:37:02,940
they're all outraged that Texas
has killed 500 people on death

2639
02:37:02,940 --> 02:37:08,340
row. Yeah, it's like which way
do you want to have it? I just

2640
02:37:08,340 --> 02:37:08,790
thought well,

2641
02:37:08,790 --> 02:37:11,460
that's one of the short circuit
models that I always like to use

2642
02:37:12,090 --> 02:37:15,210
either you know if you if you're
for the death penalty, you

2643
02:37:15,210 --> 02:37:18,660
should be for abortion. Yeah,
and if you're against the death

2644
02:37:18,690 --> 02:37:20,610
penalty, you should be against
abortion, but that's not the way

2645
02:37:20,610 --> 02:37:23,670
it works. No, it's just the
opposite. It's a short circuit.

2646
02:37:23,700 --> 02:37:26,040
I'm for reality shows of all of
it.

2647
02:37:27,450 --> 02:37:30,030
We both are in that camp. That's
the only way we're gonna make

2648
02:37:30,030 --> 02:37:30,630
any money.

2649
02:37:30,630 --> 02:37:34,530
I want to have death row. I want
electrocution reality show. I

2650
02:37:34,530 --> 02:37:37,560
wish I could have a reality show
about abortions. That'd be

2651
02:37:37,560 --> 02:37:44,370
fantastic. Daddy is five months
pregnant. She wants to remove

2652
02:37:44,370 --> 02:37:46,560
that baby bump. Hey, Oh.

2653
02:37:49,440 --> 02:37:54,390
Well, we have we have 16 Was it?
I was 16 and pregnant. I love

2654
02:37:54,390 --> 02:37:57,720
this MTV show where the kids are
always like, Oh, I was pooping

2655
02:37:57,720 --> 02:37:59,850
on the toilet and the kid
slipped out and went through the

2656
02:37:59,850 --> 02:38:05,820
drain pipes. Those shows are
outrageous. Yeah, you could have

2657
02:38:05,820 --> 02:38:09,420
that. But then my ideas is
crazy. Yeah.

2658
02:38:11,400 --> 02:38:12,510
All right. Well, I think that

2659
02:38:12,660 --> 02:38:15,780
oh, no, well, no, no, no, you
can't just end me on that. No,

2660
02:38:15,780 --> 02:38:20,670
no, no. downer. No, no, no, no,
no, we'll end on a new sickness.

2661
02:38:21,510 --> 02:38:26,400
Oh, a new type of dementia has
been reported. A new type

2662
02:38:26,400 --> 02:38:30,750
of dementia and a new type of a
new type of dementia how and you

2663
02:38:30,750 --> 02:38:33,840
and I are prime candidates, my
friend.

2664
02:38:34,890 --> 02:38:38,040
Doctors of the balance brain
center in Seoul Korea have

2665
02:38:38,040 --> 02:38:41,160
noticed a deterioration in our
cognitive abilities that is

2666
02:38:41,160 --> 02:38:44,460
usually only found in people who
have suffered head injury or

2667
02:38:44,490 --> 02:38:47,610
psychiatric illness. And the
worst part about this dementia

2668
02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:51,030
is it is self inflicted.
According to the researchers, it

2669
02:38:51,030 --> 02:38:55,140
is overuse of smartphones,
tablets and game devices that's

2670
02:38:55,140 --> 02:38:58,170
hampering the balanced
development of the brain. So a

2671
02:38:58,170 --> 02:39:00,900
person who spends more than
seven hours a day on devices

2672
02:39:01,110 --> 02:39:03,930
shows a significant lack of
development in the right side of

2673
02:39:03,930 --> 02:39:06,390
their brain that is the side of
your brain responsible for

2674
02:39:06,390 --> 02:39:08,340
concentration and memory. This
by

2675
02:39:08,340 --> 02:39:13,020
the way, according to my brain,
Professor Powell, the right

2676
02:39:13,020 --> 02:39:16,620
brain left brain stuff has been
debunked years ago, and it's

2677
02:39:16,620 --> 02:39:21,510
total bull crap. He says there's
no truth no empirical evidence

2678
02:39:21,660 --> 02:39:25,410
that one side of your brain does
more than the ODIs specific task

2679
02:39:25,410 --> 02:39:29,190
versus the other. Did you know
that? Nope. It's a said no

2680
02:39:29,190 --> 02:39:30,960
empirical evidence whatsoever
has been

2681
02:39:32,250 --> 02:39:34,950
shocked that I don't know that
because obviously the mainstream

2682
02:39:34,950 --> 02:39:38,490
media doesn't like to discuss
recent developments in science

2683
02:39:39,300 --> 02:39:40,260
and science.

2684
02:39:40,560 --> 02:39:43,590
And of course, if you're Erin
Burnett, you have to take this

2685
02:39:43,590 --> 02:39:48,120
story of the digital dementia
diagnosis and make a dumb joke

2686
02:39:48,270 --> 02:39:51,270
that can lead to emotional
problems. And yes, the early

2687
02:39:51,270 --> 02:39:55,530
onset of dementia. Dementia is
horrific to witness and horrible

2688
02:39:55,530 --> 02:39:58,710
to imagine in your own life
impossible to imagine. This is

2689
02:39:58,710 --> 02:40:01,410
not something to take lightly.
And while we're not saying you

2690
02:40:01,410 --> 02:40:03,870
should stop using your device
all together, there is a reason

2691
02:40:03,870 --> 02:40:06,780
why for months we have warned
about the slippery slope that is

2692
02:40:06,780 --> 02:40:10,350
technology. And yes, probably we
sound like a broken record but

2693
02:40:10,350 --> 02:40:13,320
you know what we like records
and probably a lot of you don't

2694
02:40:13,320 --> 02:40:17,490
know what a record is. But we do
and we're proud of it. We look

2695
02:40:17,490 --> 02:40:20,100
outside our devices for some
mental stimulation and that is

2696
02:40:20,100 --> 02:40:25,020
why we here are not worried
about digital dementia. AC 360

2697
02:40:25,020 --> 02:40:25,620
starts right now.

2698
02:40:25,679 --> 02:40:27,539
Oh, wow.

2699
02:40:27,569 --> 02:40:30,749
She thinks that people who are
watching her show are young for

2700
02:40:30,749 --> 02:40:36,239
some reason. This memo memo to
Ms. Burnet. Your average age is

2701
02:40:36,239 --> 02:40:40,139
65 girl that peed these people
know what a record is.

2702
02:40:41,220 --> 02:40:44,160
Do show how dumb is that?

2703
02:40:44,460 --> 02:40:47,340
Who writes this stuff for her
and she doesn't have any ability

2704
02:40:47,340 --> 02:40:49,440
to say that's stupid. Jeff
Zucker,

2705
02:40:49,440 --> 02:40:54,480
I'm sure. Ah, he did I hear is
Makayla gone already at CNN?

2706
02:40:55,710 --> 02:40:59,520
Mickey mckaela Yeah, no, she
didn't even start yet. As far as

2707
02:40:59,520 --> 02:41:00,210
I can tell.

2708
02:41:00,960 --> 02:41:06,060
From on the show has been on the
air. I have a feeling that she

2709
02:41:06,060 --> 02:41:10,560
she that she's gone already
something. I think I saw a

2710
02:41:10,560 --> 02:41:11,850
message somewhere.

2711
02:41:13,350 --> 02:41:14,940
Nice said okay. Hold on

2712
02:41:14,970 --> 02:41:18,510
CNN. What is it first shout.
What is it first?

2713
02:41:18,540 --> 02:41:20,310
No. She's from Saskatoon.

2714
02:41:20,550 --> 02:41:24,720
Really? Yeah, that's where all
the money is. No, no,

2715
02:41:24,720 --> 02:41:28,170
that's Alberta. Oh, oh,
Saskatoon is to Paris,

2716
02:41:28,740 --> 02:41:31,590
Alberta. You know what's
happening in Alberta. Did you

2717
02:41:31,590 --> 02:41:34,920
hear about this? But the floods?
Yeah, but not about the floods.

2718
02:41:34,920 --> 02:41:38,250
You hear what the Mounties did?
No, they beat someone up. No.

2719
02:41:39,330 --> 02:41:43,320
They're already impatient. Now
anger is building about what has

2720
02:41:43,320 --> 02:41:45,690
happened while they've been out
of their homes,

2721
02:41:46,020 --> 02:41:48,990
supposed to be here to protect
us to keep looters away and

2722
02:41:48,990 --> 02:41:49,950
they're the ones doing the
looting.

2723
02:41:52,770 --> 02:41:56,190
It came to a head yesterday as
word spread among high river

2724
02:41:56,190 --> 02:42:01,140
residents. The RCMP had seized
hundreds of guns from evacuated

2725
02:42:01,140 --> 02:42:06,060
homes. The RCMP is on video of
the days following the flood

2726
02:42:06,060 --> 02:42:08,160
shows they did go into houses

2727
02:42:08,340 --> 02:42:11,460
looking for anybody who's in
distress who needs assistance,

2728
02:42:11,550 --> 02:42:15,720
but the force says it only took
guns that pose a safety risk

2729
02:42:16,050 --> 02:42:18,630
in those situations when they're
out in plain view, and they were

2730
02:42:18,630 --> 02:42:22,950
not properly secured and stored.
Those firearms were taken by the

2731
02:42:22,950 --> 02:42:25,050
RCMP members and safely secured

2732
02:42:25,140 --> 02:42:28,170
the prime minister's office
jumped into the controversy with

2733
02:42:28,170 --> 02:42:33,120
a statement chastising the RCMP.
We expect they will be returned

2734
02:42:33,120 --> 02:42:35,970
to their owners as soon as
possible. The statement reads

2735
02:42:36,210 --> 02:42:39,450
the RCMP should focus on more
important tasks

2736
02:42:39,480 --> 02:42:44,250
human resources and Canadia are
outraged by this. So they came

2737
02:42:44,250 --> 02:42:51,510
into the video oh crapping
stupid website shit. Hey, I'm

2738
02:42:51,510 --> 02:42:55,380
sorry. Oh, well, I'm sorry. I
got like pre rolls popping up. I

2739
02:42:55,380 --> 02:42:58,530
can't stop this music from
playing. Angry.

2740
02:42:59,010 --> 02:43:02,400
Yeah, but you will lose your
concentration. Yeah, search. I'm

2741
02:43:02,400 --> 02:43:06,930
looking here June 27 2013.
There's Mikayla looks different

2742
02:43:06,930 --> 02:43:08,760
for some reason. I don't know
what she did.

2743
02:43:08,820 --> 02:43:12,990
CNN New Day rating sluggish
Morning Show ribbed on Twitter.

2744
02:43:12,990 --> 02:43:17,700
As Jeff Zucker nears six month
mark out there. Toast. Sorry,

2745
02:43:17,700 --> 02:43:19,260
Mikayla. Hope you got a good
deal.

2746
02:43:20,100 --> 02:43:22,680
Yeah, probably a paid for player
would pay for whatever it's

2747
02:43:22,680 --> 02:43:23,070
called.

2748
02:43:23,160 --> 02:43:27,870
Yeah. sluggish. sluggish. Mean.
They must have zero ratings.

2749
02:43:29,100 --> 02:43:32,400
It was slick. What is sluggish
on CNN.

2750
02:43:32,820 --> 02:43:34,860
I mean, you didn't even know
that if the show had started

2751
02:43:34,860 --> 02:43:36,450
yet. This is how bad it is.

2752
02:43:38,220 --> 02:43:39,210
sluggish and

2753
02:43:39,210 --> 02:43:40,410
you're in show business.

2754
02:43:40,560 --> 02:43:41,670
I'm in showbiz.

2755
02:43:45,000 --> 02:43:51,390
So anyway, sorry about that.
People have Canadia and it's

2756
02:43:51,390 --> 02:43:54,300
like, yes, you can get your gun
back. If you can show you our

2757
02:43:54,300 --> 02:43:57,660
legal owner of the gun. Yeah. In
your house that is now

2758
02:43:57,660 --> 02:44:03,240
completely washed out. You're
gonna go find your receipt. They

2759
02:44:03,240 --> 02:44:05,160
took their guns. That's pretty
scary.

2760
02:44:05,400 --> 02:44:08,130
Yeah, well, that's gonna happen
here. Probably. Yeah, of course.

2761
02:44:08,160 --> 02:44:10,620
They just can't figure out how
to do it here. They've tried

2762
02:44:10,620 --> 02:44:14,100
this. They try that. No, they're
gonna do it. They haven't

2763
02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:16,770
figured it out yet. They
haven't. They've been working on

2764
02:44:16,770 --> 02:44:16,890
it.

2765
02:44:16,920 --> 02:44:20,130
I guaranteed a certain point.
The American says we'll just go,

2766
02:44:20,760 --> 02:44:23,190
man. Exactly.

2767
02:44:29,490 --> 02:44:32,760
All good. All right, everybody.
Have yourselves a fantastic

2768
02:44:32,760 --> 02:44:35,850
weekend the rest of the weekend
and enjoy your week leading up

2769
02:44:35,850 --> 02:44:45,990
to the celebration and America's
of our independence. I shall I

2770
02:44:45,990 --> 02:44:56,520
won't even I'm going to be nice.
St. And remember, Google Reader

2771
02:44:56,520 --> 02:45:01,350
shuts down tomorrow. You will
eat a At least you want to do is

2772
02:45:01,350 --> 02:45:04,140
you want to get your
subscription list in OPML

2773
02:45:04,140 --> 02:45:09,870
format, and export that do that
now. And maybe we'll be able to

2774
02:45:09,870 --> 02:45:12,450
help you with the freedom
controller when time comes, but

2775
02:45:13,410 --> 02:45:15,870
I think it's important that you
at least have your list of

2776
02:45:15,870 --> 02:45:23,520
feeds. Are you doing twits? I
have to check it. All right.

2777
02:45:24,270 --> 02:45:27,840
Once you go check coming to you
from the Travis heights hideout

2778
02:45:27,840 --> 02:45:33,600
here, where the C word now
stands for Krieger. I'm cracking

2779
02:45:33,600 --> 02:45:36,810
number one. In the morning. I'm
Adam curry.

2780
02:45:36,990 --> 02:45:39,690
And from Northern Silicon
Valley. We're on cracker number

2781
02:45:39,690 --> 02:45:43,800
two, or three can't tell. I'm
John C. Dvorak.

2782
02:45:43,830 --> 02:45:47,070
We'll be back on Thursday, July
fourth right here on No

2783
02:45:47,190 --> 02:45:55,950
agenda.org/n A