and every time they catch him doing something like that he
gets another star. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, June 13 2013. Time for your gizmo nation media
assassination episode five to
this is no agenda, reading your
emails. So the NSA doesn't have to from the Travis heights hide
out in Austin, Texas, the capital of the drone Star State
in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon Valley where I can't even find my
emails. I'm John C. Dvorak.
You know, I've really gotten into squirrel mail. I know
that's your email program of choice. Yeah. And have you? Do
you have the most recent version running on your server? I don't
know. It's cuz you can do a lot of cool things like what we can
do. Is that a lot of customization, I know that it
can that there's all these plugins
version is this. What's the number? Let me
see I have version, I think it is the most. Where do I find the
version?
I can't find it either on here.
Introduction. I know I can find I know I had the most recent one
because it's on my own server. So upgraded. Why that's weird.
It should just say it here. Hold on a
second. But doesn't say it here. So I kind
of under Help. No. Oh, I can't find it. I'll look on the server
after the show. But I'm only I'm pretty amazed. This thing is so
lightweight. And even though I really like keyboard commands,
personally. It's pretty it's pretty impressive what it does.
And then under help seeing it, it's numbers.
No, it's not under Help.
Oh, what's the number?
I don't know what the number is?
No, I'm saying I'm asking it. Oh, okay. Oh,
Miss Mickey just said, Yes. She's right. She just texted me
and said you haven't tweeted yet. Which means she's pissed
because no one is going on
here. Why is he or annoyed at all? Oh,
I see what happened. So all my all my Twitter has changed their
whole. Screw that. So I think today is Armageddon day where
everyone's Twitter client that isn't approved just stops
working?
Oh, yeah. I just use Twitter on the web. I don't. Yeah, no,
but I have I have a command line Twitter, which, which I always
like just just, you know, it's kind of running continuously.
And I can see yourself as it scrolls by it's a really it's a
really nice version, the TTY Twitter or whatever. It's called
home. We do it like no, I
don't use that. Oh, I did. I did open Twitter though. And I read
Dr. Kiki Stanford
said, Oh, my goodness. Did you see her with Al Gore? No, yeah.
Yes, he did a Google Hangout with Al Gore. And someone I
tweeted about it. And I like, Shut up already. It's science.
And I just she wasn't for global warming. Oh, yeah.
I tried to watch it, John. I couldn't even I couldn't sit
through it. It's like, Oh, wow. There we go. In my entire
career. You know, I've been following the climate for 20
years.
You have a gorgeous, nope. That's what Dr. Kiki said. What
about gore? Get the talk? Oh, yes.
No, yes, it was his thing. And he's like, it was him and Jeff
Skoll, the guy who did the inconvenient truth movie with
them. And then, you know, some lucky people who are allowed to
talk to the former vice president. And the whole thing
was just like, the there's a push right now there's a big
push.
I know I'm telling you, we talked about this foreign you
know, what my thesis is? Which is that they gotta get this done
before the numbers reverse. Yeah,
exactly. So here's, it's funny because I just clipped Robert
Redford. And he's he's really pushing Oh, I'm Robert Redford.
record setting heat and drought, rising sea levels and severe
weather events like Hurricane Sandy
you gotta look at this video. It's in the show notes of course
five to one that any show notes.com So first of all, it
was not Hurricane Sandy was not classified. It was a superstorm,
which was another fun, cool new name. But his video is just
filled with big Ocean Spray crashing over roadways. And it's
just the whole thing is just like you're going to the ocean
is eating you alive.
Climate change is happening fast,
fast. No, in fact, it's not happening fast. This is the
problem. We've got
to stop making the problem worse, and that means reducing
carbon pollution from its biggest source coal fired power
plants. Ah, there it is. It's harming our environment, and our
communities.
And this is interesting where he actually says what is going to
happen? Well, we've discussed on the
show Even so Congress has refused to take steps that would
protect us from climate change. The good news is that President
Obama has pledged to act, and he has the power to do it probably
won't
respond to the threat of climate change. That's very interesting.
When you see a night What is he the dictator?
Well, no, it's the EPA, the EPA can close down all coal fired
power plants, that is what is going to happen, knowing that
the failure to do so would betray our children and future
generations.
Through the Environmental Protection Agency, the president
can require dirty coal plants to cut carbon pollution
dirty,
replacing dirty fuels with clean power and energy efficiency is
going to create jobs, boost the economy, save us money. I
don't think that's going to happen. It's gonna save us
money. It's not gonna save us money.
But it will protect us, as he said from climate change. Now,
there's only one thing that will protect you from climate change.
Human That's right. Go to sleep.
stay asleep, stay
asleep. As long as you're napping. You are helping the
environment. That is that is the no agenda way. Just nap for
humanity, everybody.
So can I ask you a question? Yes,
of course.
What makes Bill Clinton the Father of the Year?
I saw that.
It was he sharing coke with his daughter. Was that the deal?
Father the year?
Yeah. Well, I saw your answer. You gave someone the answers
what that is all about. So I don't want to blow your punch
line. Unless you've got something else going on. What
did I say? You said, this is all just a setup to make his crummy
wife look bad. Yeah, I think that was your exact words is
true. Those those two hate each other. They do this is his way
of noodling her.
Yeah, it's definitely a way to make his crummy wife look bad
because she's obviously not the world's greatest mom.
This is exactly what you tweeted. I saw I think I saw it
somewhere. But yeah, it's like, and who get it. And it's funny.
I didn't even track this story. I'm like, whatever. Did you
read? Who gave him the award? And who does this and
they got to clip here. Oh, no, no, not a clip. I'm sorry. I
have the article. Bill Clinton was named father the year by the
National Father's Day committee. former leader was celebrated by
family and friends for his accomplished accomplishments as
a dad. Right. Well, they should have had more kids than by guest
Hillary it wasn't the motherly type Yeah, meanwhile, and then
installed her even more this was on was this isn't one of the new
services, New York Daily News to install Hillary even more, they
have a side related article ready. But Hillary? Hillary
Clinton joins Twitter. She says she's a hair icon. Yeah. So we
have that that's the the, you know, the comparison and
pantsuit aficionado? Yes. So it's a comparison of Bill the
good dad and Hillary the vain pain lady.
Well, you know, there's a scandal right now brewing around
her. Quite a serious one that I think is it will definitely
involves her you know, her. Her detail. Her security detail. As
CBS News reported, engaged in hiring prostitutes anywhere
while they're on the road and the problem according to the DSS
department of Secret Service's and they're the ones that have
oversight over the Secret Service said the problem was
endemic sounds like it he just did you see this this true
whistleblower? Did you see this woman on CBS? Now I missed this
one. Yeah, I think this got snowed under and and maybe a lot
of this noise we're seeing right now is to detract or distract
from this. So this woman she is a part of the Inspector
General's office. She's a member of the Inspector General's
office very frustrated that all these things they found in the
State Department under Hillary's command. Everything got buried.
They were told to shut up to drop it go away. The interesting
thing is that
that includes that sexual harassment scandal. Yes. Oh,
when the lesbians were harassed. No, no,
no. That's Department of Homeland Security. Oh, okay. I
think and but yeah, the different department with
lesbians, but this woman looks like I'm just gonna am totally
generalizing totally. I have no proof other than she looks like
a dyke. I just I just got To be honest and say it, it almost
looks It sounds almost like jilted lover thing. I don't know
what's going on. But when I saw this report, which has gotten no
play, other than the one report CBS did and I'll tell you it
involves pedo bear in Brussels. Really, if adenosine was an
investigator for the State Department's internal watchdog
agency, the Inspector General,
we also uncovered several allegations of criminal
wrongdoing and cases, some of which never became cases.
In each case, DSS agents told the Inspector General's
investigators that higher ups told them to back off, we were
very
upset. We expect to see influence. But the degree to
which that influence existed, and how high up it went, was
very disturbing.
Perhaps the most striking instance where agents told the
IG they were told to stop investigating was the case of a
US ambassador in a sensitive diplomatic post suspected of
patronizing prostitutes in a public park. The State
Department Inspector General's memorandum refers to the 2011
investigation into the ambassador who routinely ditched
his protective security detail. Investigators suspected to
solicit sexual favors from prostitutes. Sources told me not
only is he having sex with prostitutes, but he's asking for
favors meaning he's not paying mean that's horrible CBl. I
think that's what he was just saying.
The ambassador was called to a meeting in Washington with
Patrick Kennedy Undersecretary of State for Management, but was
allowed to return to his post.
You have a lot of what we refer to as hostile intelligence
services in that city. I would be very surprised if some of
those entities were not aware of the activities. So yes, it
presents a serious risk.
Yeah. So this is Howard Hold
on a second. They didn't name the city. But what do you think
it is, I think is Moscow.
No, no, it's now known. It's come out. It's got since this.
It's Brussels.
Oh, it was all Brussels. Howard's a lot of hookers in
Brussels. Oh,
John Brussels is where everyone every this guy lives in the
palace in Brussels. And Howard Goodman is the ambassador. And
I'm familiar with him because he's been on some Belgian TV
shows. I tried to clip something but you really have to
understand the nuance of the Dutch language even though they
spoke English. It just wasn't worth it for the show. But when
he you know, he and Clooney is hanging out visiting his
pictures
hanging out. Yeah. So are these male prostitutes? Well,
the the rumors are that it's underage prostitutes, males or
females. That is not clear. That is not clear. But the guy and he
was a huge Hillary donor. That's how you become an ambassador.
You see, as you
as your bundlers, John Doerr, who kept he keeps donating to
the various me always donate to the wrong guy.
You gotta you gotta do it to the right guy.
But he wants to be the ambassador to France.
Oh, so he can ride his bike on the Tour de France. I whatever.
Yeah. So this is what the douchebags want. Sorry, on m a n
GUTMN. Goodman, Howard Goodman. And he was a bundler for Hillary
Clinton. So this is they've they've really hushed this up.
And what I hear this woman saying is, you know, this came
from all the way at the top. In other words, Hillary said shut
up. Yeah, shut up, make it go away. And and I don't know why
she had this. The whole thing has a Daiki connotation to it.
I suppose you can tell by looking at looking at his
pictures. Yeah, it definitely. It definitely looks like
he's creepy. Right. Creepy. Yeah. So there's a couple of
links in the show notes where you should you should definitely
take a look at that including the interview of Guttman and his
wife was in the guy even says weird stuff in that interview,
like, you know, yes, well, you know, we sleep on the first
floor the security details not there, but they wouldn't be
disturbing us anyway. We've been married for a long time. It's
like what kind of bull crap are you talking? It was really
weird. But anyway,
so that is has a bad look doesn't
know. This is what's going on. This is a true scandal and it
involves certainly involves Hillary. No one can use that. So
who knows why things get thrown up. All of a sudden this this
seems pretty big. CBS is like a six minute report on this. It
was pretty big.
And it hasn't gone anywhere. No. You didn't hear Fox would not
even hear of it. And I'm pretty I'm trying to stay keep my ear
To the round No,
no, no no nothing at all. Nothing at all is this nutty?
Nutty?
Interesting? Talking about screwed up politicians I got I
do have before we get into the meat of the show I do have a
drunk or not drunk.
Oh, hold on a second. Let's get a pat lane. Was this
Pat Leahy? Oh good. Oh Pat Leahy. You have to tell me what
do you think gives the drunk or not drunk does he's he's you
know chairing a committee. He goes okay
drunk
gracias Grassley and I will get the last word and we'll have a
roll call vote on final sooner comes the percent fight brothers
just needed to file a statement for the record with regard to
flake number three, the amendment to clarify something
on is that okay.
And that will be done. I also without while everybody's here
without objection, I'd ask that the sound legislative council to
be given permission to make the usual technical and conforming
changes to the bill as amended. No objection to that objection.
Senator Coons
okay. No, he's not drinking slathered is what he is,
he's completely beginning again,
he's completely obliterated now that that beginning is really
good. And hold on a second. Here we go.
Senator Cornyn and Senator Grassley.
Tired, he's just tired.
I've been watching the outgoing FBI Director Robert Mueller. is
on the Hill today being in one this will, you know, we have to
stop because what happens is, we get some kind of scandal. And
then within a day, everyone's like, it's like, it's like,
what? Did they send a memo out? And everyone changes their
calendar? Or did they already have all these hearings
scheduled? I mean, everything is immediately like, oh, come to
the hill, and everyone's up there. And they everyone's got
time. What are they doing? Are they just waiting for the next
scandal or something?
Well, they don't have to wait long. No, no, I
mean, but you know, it's just it's, it's like, wow, that's
all. It's part of the big show. And then it turns out that, as
we saw with the General Alexander, the, their fear of
the National Security Agency, the real show is happening today
in secret.
I also believe, you know, we had this debate several times,
Senator Durbin brought it up from 2001 on. And this is one
now where we need to bring out because of these leaks, the rest
of the story, show what we do what it protects the country
from and had the debate. does, it makes sense. And so that's
part in order to do that, I think what we have to give you
is the rest of that data. Tomorrow, we'll put that in a
classified session. But the intent would be to try to get as
much out public so that everybody has the information
where we can. And the reason that I hesitate a little bit
here is I don't want to make a mistake that causes the
statements that I have for our country to lose some form of
protection, and we get hit with a terrorist attack because I may
made that mistake or
Muslims right around the world. I mean, anything could happen,
but the whole but what is he doing there? at all if the real
information is going to be in it classified secret setting. This
insulting, especially after our watch two hours of that crap,
just to hear that there was another one today that we can't
we can't watch? If you have nothing to hide? Then why don't
why don't you just declassify everything. No one's got
anything to hide, right?
Yeah. Well, you know, he, what's his first name? Hamilton?
Alexander? It's Alexander. No, it's George Alexander. George.
Kyle. George. It shouldn't be George George Alexander's a cool
General General George Alexander.
Give me his name. Quick.
I don't know his name quick. It's why don't you consult the
book of knowledge? Alexandria, maybe Adolf Alexander. That
would not be snappy, but have a nice ring to it. Now we could
call him.
Gary here. Jeb is a chief.
Yes. What's his name? Keith, I told you it was Kyle.
Okay. Here's the reason one reason I'm looking this up is
because there's a real funny quote. Which I think this guy by
the way, was the guy responsible for the The original warrantless
wiretap idea?
Yeah. Oh, yeah, he's he's been doing it forever.
And and he and every time they catch him doing something like
that he gets another star. Yeah, I swear to god yeah, really all
people should go to the Wikipedia page of Keith be
Alexander and look at his metals. And there's too one
thing comes up into in the conversation is why does he own?
He's wearing all these, you know these braids and ribbons. And
he's got the Royal Norwegian Order of Merit grand officer
award.
And is he wearing it? Yeah,
these are the ones he's wearing?
Does it smell a fish? Did you Did you see the why does
he have this award?
Because he's well, I don't know. Did you see the clip that our
producer made for us of C span of the Colin show? Do you have
time to check that out?
No, I didn't. Ah, so this,
if you look at the clip, yeah, of course, I got a clip of the
cloverleaf where
you go on I want to. It's like, I gotta
what's about him? It's about okay, well, let
me just some statements to the public. In July 9 2012, he says,
We do not hold data on US citizens. In this one here in
March 2012. Those who want to read a story about that we have
millions of hundreds of millions of doses on people is absolutely
false. From my perspective, this is absolute nonsense these guys
ever get. Or if they're talking in front of Congress, and they
say stuff like this, how come? None of these guys get busted
for doing for lying? And clapper would be one of them? Well,
here's climbing both, which is what?
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He did not lie. client or did not lie. No,
no, let's, let's get let's be very children, of parents who
are listening to this show. If you have a child with you right
now, under 10. This is a very important lesson about the
truth, and about lying from people who are in positions to
be leaders of the of the country at large and of the community
and are an example for your children. So please, kids,
listen, if you if someone says you were lying, and you know
that you may be kind of warrant something. Here's how you say,
I have great respect for Senator Wyden. I thought, though, in
retrospect, I was asking when are you gonna start stop beating
your wife kind of question which is meaning not answerable
unnecessarily by a simple yes or no. So I responded in what I
thought was the most truthful, or least untruthful manner, but
there you go, the least untruthful manner.
It's funny, you got that clip?
It's not funny. It's disgusting, is what it is. Why don't they
throw the book at these people? I mean, they put Martha Stewart
of all people in jail.
Well, why aren't people outraged? Why aren't they in
front of, you know, tracking this guy and waving banners in
his face. Why? Because this is not really the message. This is
not what the slaves are told to do. This is not what is on
television. This is not what's being televised. And the people
who are listening to this podcast, they got jobs. I got
other things to do. This is what students are supposed to do.
As students are lame.
Lame. On The Wall Street when I was a kid, oh, yeah, please. Go
ahead.
I was a kid we wouldn't put up with this.
No, no, you can state on the on this expanse. And I love it
because they do have they do have a pretty good clipping
system that you can use and you can title it whatever you want,
which is pretty funny. When someone then sends you the link
and says she'll NSA she'll calls up. And this is indeed an NSA.
She'll called up on that morning call in show the Washington
journal I think,
call me the guy calls in Yeah, well, public in line the public
ended. This is
the Democrat line. And this woman who claims later in, in
her little spiel here that she has, above top secret clearance.
I want you to hear this is how people in your government, not
just feel about Kyle Alexander, but worship him as she licks his
boots.
Numbers are watched. Numbers are, you know, there's millions
and millions and millions. If you see one tag as linked to a
number overseas that has been linked to terrorist activity,
then they look at it closely after they go to the FISA court.
At some point, people are going to have to trust that their
government is full of incredibly responsible, brilliant and
trustworthy people like General Alexander which is why he is the
director of the NSA and has been for almost I think Eight years
now, people are going to have to accept that there are super
smart people that do understand the technology that respects
civil liberties and will not be getting into their personal
information.
Okay, so first thing is they have to No, no, it gets better.
So she's she's very condescending, like there are
people who do understand the technology. Oh, I'm sorry. Let
me just go back to my loser corner here because I don't
understand the technology. All right. And why don't you tell me
about your governor? So she is. So this is the hubris and the
insanity. And of course, they're incredibly smart people working
in government and very loyal and patriotic people. All of them,
listen to this show. And we'll have plenty of that later on.
But this woman, it is sickening to hear what she's about to say.
get done and have time to read your chit chat with your
brothers and sisters is crazy.
Oh, the government has no time to listen to your chit chat with
your brothers and sisters crazy. We don't care about you, you
stupid slave. fighting terrorists. He's not what she
just said.
The FBI would say that's it. That's the summary that you
could justify.
It doesn't stop there.
But Mary, on the other side, do you see? Do you see how some
people would find this creepy and unsettling?
No, if they're not, I firmly believe and I'm a Democrat,
through and through. But I firmly believe having grown up
in this world, and I'm still in this world. And I'm still
exposed to the inside of what's going on which most people
aren't the the idea that the government would take the time
to dig into personal stuff. Unless there was truly an a very
strong indicator that that communication was trapped back
to already identified problem.
She can't even work her way out of her own bullcrap. At
this point.
Well, a couple of things I want to say right here. We've had
Benny who was one of the whistleblowers talking about
this, and it's been talked about before, it's considered a
violation of gross violation to discuss anything if you're an
agency, especially very above top secret with the media. This
is she's either doing this because she was told to do it
and given a script and given the okay, or she should be fired
tomorrow.
Oh, she's doing it because she was told to do it. There's no
There's no doubt about that. And fear can't do what she's doing.
And so she goes on for like eight minutes. But here is
something very interesting. And we're going to see, I think one
of our producers actually emailed us this, I don't know if
you are copied on it. So you watch this is going to change
the way the military industrial complex works. And now we
instead of contractors, because of course, it's a contract is a
big problem to contractor. Now you see the contractor, we have
to deal with this issue, which means we're going to be
employing people full time. This is a so a con, it'll be like
deputize zation of they're going to come up with some crazy thing
that trust me on this benefits. The industrial complex.
Some of our viewers, some of our Twitter followers have asked the
question in a incredulous way, which
is how what does that mean? incredulous way? What does it
mean? Just watch. Okay. General Alexander not know that Edward
Snowden had access to all of this.
Oh my Lord. I would Snowden is a tiny, tiny, tiny little actor in
general Alexander's world.
Oh, excuse me.
Oh, my God. That's for a tiny tiny little he's less than
y'all. You people working there as contractors are a second you
got the clearances and all but you're a loser.
You are like you are less you are tiny. And no, you are less
than the poop that comes out of the ants. But that's how small
and sorry for laughing about you. You little tiny,
insignificant pee on you. But that's how we feel about you
here at the top.
I think that is I don't know, I'm sorry. I'm laughing but
but that's what we do all the
time a spokesperson just blowing it proper for being incompetent.
I wish
he would get his clearance is attached to the contract that he
was on.
Now you hear this very interest. So the clearance was attached to
the contract that he was on and they're going to have to deal
with this which means more money for somebody which
would call for certain types of people with certain skills, and
they would be hired with those skills. And in his case, based
on On clearances that had been given to him in previous
position. So, you know, there's probably that's something that
really needs to be looked at.
This is just as she's, this is stupid that what she's doing.
Yeah, she could have gotten out of that question. She's
obviously gotten full of herself, she would have gotten
out of the question by saying, Well, yeah, because the question
was, how did he not know? Well, the reason he didn't know is
because there's 500,000 of these people who have these sorts of
clearances. And there's no way he knows them all. He doesn't
know.
Better than a few I tried 2 million. So what do you do so
when you're and then you
just drop it? You don't go on explaining it like this is
idiotic. So
when this happens, what what are you trained to do? Or what is
someone who is trained telling her to do at this moment? Go
back to the talking points, just dump out of whatever you decide
she's, you're right. She's off the rails. Dump out of it, go
back to the talking points, never going to completely.
We call it the insider threat, you're never going to be
completely able to.
So let's just let's just note that name, we call it the
insider threat, just stick that in the back of your mind. I
think that'll be coming up somewhere later, when we figure
out how we're going to stop back
it off just a second. You can. You can tell that either
someone's telling you or Yeah, someone says she's distracted.
She's not rattling off crap anymore. Exactly. Well, yeah,
no,
it's Fleur de su fleurs right there.
We can't the insiders.
Go back a little bit more. I heard it too. Yeah, that really
needs to be looked at. But you're never going to
completely. There it is. insider threat. We call it the Insider.
Back to the talking points easily
able to screw it up. No, it's
totally like someone's writing something down. She's like I'm a
family.
In terms of likely, if they think that this process is
bothersome.
Back to the talking points. Now she's done gibberish, dumping
a hard thing to sort of clear someone about but that is
probably something that's going to be be looked at more closely.
We encourage independent mindedness and concern for civil
liberties in this country. And that's a really healthy thing.
The talking points here, come on. But there's a balance. And
the President said that last week there is a balance between
security and civil liberties.
No, no, I'm sorry. There's no balance at all between civil
liberties and security, or, or is there, John, because we have
to admit, Words matter. And we listened on the show very
closely to what people said. And as I was listening to a general,
Carl Alexander, I heard him say something that I had to listen,
I had to go back and listen to it three times to make sure I
heard what he was saying he trained
and ready forces. I think that is one of the most important
things that Congress expects of me of Cyber Command and NSA to
within the department to create trained and ready forces that
are trained to a higher standard, both on the defense
and on the offense, those capabilities that our nation
needs that are trained to that standard that know how to
operate lawfully to protect American civil liberties and
privacy.
Really, we need to protect our civil liberties from privacy is
that is that what he just said?
Play it again. So sounds like what you said
American civil liberties and privacy
from privacy he's saying from privacy I'm quite sure of it
lawfully to protect American civil liberties and privacy
does he think and privacy are from privacy?
I think he doesn't know I think he wanted to say and but from
Kim came home so it came a friend planned
to protect American civil liberties and privacy Yeah,
I'm sorry I think he's what the heart is full of the mouth
overflows blurted out eventually Yeah.
You can't you can't help it
but you have to tell yeah people I'm doing this you're a
psychopath but I'm gonna I'm gonna vary plotting character. I
want to mention something about him that's mentioned in the
Wikipedia pages find this a little peculiar. Get to his his
education.
Now let the American University Let me guess Georgia No, no, it
says that that off the wall it's not that bad but at West Point
is where he got a lot of his stuff. Where's the one here?
Well, that's interesting. I missed him moved it to a
different section. Let me see if I can find it again.
Now, just go on. Should I do a little tidbit is now
disappeared. Alright, well
I'm gonna get ready because I think with this next clip, you
just might have to award me and I declined
to set up. This isn't T ball
yet is this is our our vice president known as Joseph o
Biden in 2006. So this is then Senator Oh Biden, under the
George W. Bush Bush regime? Because let's be honest, they
would you need to call these things regimes like we do other
nations. And here's what he discussed when it came to the
exact same people, the same players, general Constance,
Alexander, with the illegal wiretapping, and you just gotta
love Joe.
I don't have to listen to your phone calls and know what you're
doing. If I know every single phone call you made, I'm able to
determine every single person you talk to, I can get a pattern
about your life that is very, very intrusive. And the real
question here is, what do they do with this information that
they collect? That does not have anything to do with Okay, and
we're gonna trust the President and the Vice President knighted
states that they're doing the right thing? Don't count me in
on that.
Do I get it? Do I get it or not? Isn't that not worthy? No.
Here it is. Let me play this. I want you to just tell me what's
wrong with this picture when I read this little paragraph about
his education. Okay. Alexander worked on signals intelligence
at a number of secret National Security Agency bases in the
United States in German and nobody had been all over the
place. He earned master's degrees in electronic warfare
physics, national security strategy and business
administration from Boston University in 1978. breading
India in 1978 Are you telling me you could get a master's degree
in electronic warfare? 1978 electronic
warfare shirt when they had extension 1978 had extension
cords. Electronic electrical warfare, but isn't electronic
warfare isn't that wiretapping and bugs and, and actual wires
running out of lamps and stuff?
Well, it implies you know cyber crimes.
I don't think so. I don't I don't think I
don't believe this existed. I think this is a hoax.
Did you What did you want enough? Did you watch this? This
this C span thing with with this blue ribbon panel led by the
biggest moron I've ever seen. Her name is Senator Mikulski tem
Nichols she is a moron.
And she's dumber than Feinstein. I don't think so. Oh, I sound
just like Feinstein. By the way.
I got a couple of clips. And so this is the opening of this
call, which not a lot of people saw and this is why we watch the
span. And just listen to what she's reading because she has no
idea what she's talking about. Zero idea. The woman should be
voted out of office and certainly should not be leading
any committee that has anything to do with anything important.
She's a moron.
I am opening a hearing on cybersecurity. Let me do it.
Well, a cybersecurity we're going to examine the efforts to
protect the American people from cyber threats to put
a little like Feinstein Yeah. Plus 20 in the gravel. Yeah, she
does
air domains.mil.gov and.com
We got to protect the domains John, the domains
of.mil.gov and.com.edu.org pound sand bitches.
We need to make sure that hey.tv Screw you the American people,
uh, know what our programs are, know what we're spending our
money for. And also to make sure
and the grammar of these people what we're spending our money
for. What do you 12 No,
we make why use of taxpayer dollars so that there are no
tech no boondoggles
tech. No boondoggles. Yay. This is the kind of person I want to
run in my country. We hope
to make sure we know how to help the private sector and to
protect.com by real information, real time information.
I can just let this pass. We must protect.com Okay, is that
like, what are you the DNS, guardian of the DNS?
You killed it how many of these people have you grilled them and
ask them what DNS even even what the acronym stood for?
She has no idea, but we must protect.com It's written on her
paper and she can't even get through this thing. Whoever
wrote it is a moron to
a share. Hearing about threats and helping the private sector
develop the secure technologies we need.
Okay, so this she got through that one helping the private
sector develop the secure technologies we need. Oh, good
one, can she get through another 50 seconds
we need to prevent hackers, nation states and criminals from
stealing our cyber our identities.
Hackers and nation states and criminals are stealing our
identities, cyber
espionage, cyber sabotage cyber sexing against our online
commerce, where our critical infrastructure tracking
disrupted tracker hackers
track and disrupt the tracker hacker smacker dope. I'm
confused and
prosecute them when possible. I have
two goals for this hearing. One is to get through this frickin
opening.
First, I'm going to make sure that we protect the American
people from cyber threats by working together across the
government to protect as I said the domains of.mil.gov and.com
I'm telling
you I feel extremely angry as an owner of several dot orgs and
get edu is not the.edu domain important to this woman.
Apparently not.
Well, you know, all these people are crazy. I have a clip here.
Let me swing find it.
I just finish her up because it's a 20. Yeah, finishing up
and I got just a follow up just to show you the kind of I got
more. I mean, I have more from this woman. She's just nuts.
I'm wanting to examine how agencies will use cyber security
funding in the budget. The administration is requesting
over $13 billion for fiscal 2014 in this very stringent
environment. We are concerned about techno boondock their
government is is often very good at spending money, but we need
to make sure we spend the money well.
Now what does she mean by techno boondoggle? What is she trying
to say that it's a bonanza everybody jump on the gravy
train websites
that say hello. I mean maybe something like that's a techno
boom I have here while you're while you're playing this
explanatory nonsense. One of our producers sent me a clip from
Mary Landrieu during one of these hearings and it's it's the
clip is idiot commentary on Coke bottle and listen to this.
I want to share this and then ask a question. When I asked him
to sort of describe the scope of cybersecurity and the challenge
before it's this, it will send it to somebody who's described
it like this. They said the Department of Defense is.mil
It's the coke bottle cap. If you think about a coke bottle, it's
just the cap
of the it's just the tip. So you should have said bottle.
The Federal civilian government which is.gov is like the coke
bottle itself. And the companies and citizens which is.com is the
entire room the bottle is in. So while all the questions are
being peppered right now to the top of this coke bottle, Madam
Chair, the room that we're in, is the battleground that we're
fighting it
Yeah, no. So what this is about, Is this me, they're insane. So I
have two things. It's a one two punch for you here. So first, I
have this this moronic woman who really needs to be voted. She'd
just go home. You need to stop, go take all your winnings and go
home. Senator Mikulski, please. She is going to say she's going
to tell us right here and right now, this is the entire reason
for this. Who know no one gives a crap about if you're being
monitored. Your rights are being violated. This is what this is
about
rare, but he has a committee had so much talent coming together
from both those of us from appropriations, as well as the
authorizers
and I love it when you just say that you're also talented.
You're so talented, really, to all of you out there. You're
talented, just talented.
I hope our country has a sense of urgency. We are already under
attack. This is the new enduring war. There you
go. End of story. That's what this is about is the new,
enduring war, the war that goes on forever. We are
in a cyber war. Every day. Every time someone steals our identity
steals our state secrets or our trade secrets. We are at war, we
now see the growing nexus between cyber criminals and
nation states, hacking their networks, planning disruptions
of our business operations. Director Muller of the FBI said
that cybercrime will eventually surpass terrorism as our number
one threat to America. Well, there
you go done. It was the war on drugs. It was the war on
terrorism. Now it's the war on cybercrime. And this
corroborates completely with the new report from Deloitte and
Touche, or as we often call them, toilet and do whoosh. And
the report John has titled The Global defense outlook 2013. And
here's what I love so much the subtitle, balancing security and
prosperity. Because that's what it is for the military
industrial complex. And this is and of course, this report is in
the show notes, five to one dot any show notes.com. I would like
to read a few passages from this, because this is what this
is about. This is shifting. And we've we've been on this tape,
we've been looking at this happening before our very eyes,
they tried to scare all the senators, like oh, you're all
gonna die, cyber, cyber, cyber now we somehow we've gone from,
you're listening in on us, well, we've thwarted all these these
attacks. And by the way, were you I'm sorry, I had no idea
were so talented, we've been protecting you. And while you
found this out, we've been protecting you from all this
evil. And it's really an all comes down to this. This report
examines current policies, practices and trends affecting
the defense ministries of 50 nations, whose total publicly
acknowledged spending on national defense accounts for
more than 90% and percent of global defense outlays in total
$1.7 trillion per year, of which the majority of that is the
United States. And so they're trying to balance the problems
of the military industrial complex, they have nice little
icons, this whole report is beautiful. So the strategic
realities have three difficult policy trade offs. First,
policymakers are grappling with a new balance between military
spending, and rising domestic demands for social services and
austerity. Oh, boy, what are we going to do the slaves want like
to eat and have health care? We can't have that. We need to
build more stuff that go kill people. So what are we going to
do? Well, oh, we also have denuclearization, oh crap. And
declining emphasis on general purpose forces, Oh, crap. But we
have two icons with arrows going straight up. One is a little
good dude with a parachute. The rise of special operation
forces. This is your future, special operation forces JSOC
JSOC. And to cyber as a military operational domain. That's
really what this is about is transitioning everything to
special operations, and to cyber. And here's the cool
thing. Oh, by the way, if you if you look, in America, for every
every person we have in the military, the the citizens of
America spend $404,000. For every single person, we have an
act of service, where the desk job or not, just kind of shows
you where we're at, and that's 10 times as much as other
countries.
But in 2009 Number is
incredibly high number, and 2013 and 2017. The 2013 and 2017
period will be characterized by declining defense budgets in the
higher income states. That's us, while the lower income countries
continue to grow defense spending and become more active
in weapons, r&d and trade. So what this means is the defense
industries need to go to poor nations who are want to spend
money on weaponry. This is what is going on. And of course, the
best ones are in Africa.
Yeah, we have to sell them stuff.
We are in this is general Tom Lawson, Chief of defense staff
Canada. We are in a period of tighter funds it's going to
require us to look hard for new ways of doing things What is he
the sales guy he's he's the the bomber of the of selling crap
and Canadia. A significant investments in defense
capabilities, particularly as China seeks to solidify its
position as a regional hegemonic recent increases in China's
spending are driven by structural and organizational
reform of the People's Liberation Army. There is a race
going on John, and this is a just a small part of it. But we
need to prepare the citizenry of America to be ready here from
2000 2000 2006 2012 the number of top 50 countries with Special
Operations Forces increased by 40%. The United States appears
to be the heaviest investor in cyber capabilities. Yeah, of
course, because we're we had the biggest bull crap about it. US
defense policy now acknowledges that cyberspace is an
operational domain keywords and organizes units to exploit the
full military potential of this new domain. The US established
Cyber Command 2009 with a mission that includes full
spectrum military cyberspace operations. The proposed 2014 US
Department of Defense budget cites cybersecurity as a key
policy priority area of investment. So this is what it's
all about this is what it's all about.
I can we can get a consulting gig and and we can wear
uniforms. And we can get little stars and stuff. Yeah, we get
those little badges for Norway and whatever he did for Norway.
We got a I should read you this email we got a fantastic email
from some teenagers.
Oh put in the segment. Yeah okay let me do the segment now. No
Actually let's
people are asking me not to do it because you know the jingle
is the one that was gonna read his jokes agenda show Mr. Curry
says bith vendor moot beef, my friends and I are all fans of
the show. And in an effort to win over today's youth, the five
of us 16 year olds have created a consulting group of our own
here where we brainstorm solutions to problems.
Essentially, we all get really stoned and come up with goals
and mindless thoughts for example, yes, like
the government. You want to play the Pat Leahy clip again.
Hold on. For example, we came up with the Jewish community is
being ignored and banana chips are really good. We came up with
Yahweh chips, kosher banana chips with Adderall on top to
help them focus. These meaningless incoherent ideas are
then taken to the next step. As we sober out and figure out a
way to propagate them to the youth. We devised that we
devised that we would host a Hebrew origins week over
Twitter, and simultaneously promote healthy eating within
the next week, we would merge the two. I've made our staff
aware that if we are successful, this would look great on our
resumes. We have around 20 followers and the shill
anonymous accounts that the staff has created have around 30
altogether mostly marketing folks who unfortunately believe
the scam is legit, and clearly haven't visited our website we
are testing as an experiment in how stupid the team public is.
We're trying to see if it's possible that five stone 16 year
olds can get away with elitist bullcrap using the same
techniques as the elites. In a way. We're like a Model United
Nations except we're actually working in the real world and
aren't trying to do the community any favors. A current
idea in the working now is how to combine getting Ariana Grande
to suicide herself with getting Kim Kardashian deported. We were
thinking we were thinking about going the same route as the
government did with Muslims get the slaves afraid of the
gypsies. Any help from the Korean War i consulting group
would be much appreciated. Please check out our website if
you're curious. Door consulting.wix.com And I looked
at it and these kids are onto something good John. They're on
to a really really good good trip here. And they have a
hashtag how h o w Hebrew origins week to promote the healthy
Hebrew banana chips.
Glad to spend time on that. Yep.
Well, you asked for it. Apparently no agenda show does
get better. It gets better.
Let's thank a few producer for doing today's show. 521 Right on
starting with Lee Canyon and $521 a member the 521 Nice
Joisey nice. He says that we're knocking it out of the park. The
last three or four shows have been more and more impressed
with the quality the analysis but the recent segment by Adam
about Adobe was amazing. Amazing. The content of
deconstruction the nature of the presentation made such an
impression on me that I was compelled to donate well as one
uh Yeah. Adam kept his composure without losing his passion did
not sound like a raving lunatic, which given the subject matter
is commendable. All I could do is think about more than a
decade of computer use of hearing everyone limit flash and
Acrobat being bloated, always needing an update crashing or
acting up. All the while shrugging it off with a lame
joke or Hello containers. These products become steadily more
ubiquitous. Yeah, got a sick feeling in my stomach. Wait
until we hit some buttons for the people throw some karma.
Yeah.
And wait until after this. After we thank our producers, I'm
going to go down that hole for you one more time. Also, while
we hand out the button for Lee there and we really appreciate
the jersey coming Jersey strong Jersey coming through for us.
This karma also goes out to certain 19 inch rack who is in
the hospital with the some kind of breathing issue. So but he's
he's in the hospital, and he still brought his laptop to
monitor the server's
Good for him. Can you believe that? Guy is an American got
karma he's Dutch. He withdraws you American but he's a knight I
know he's a knight. That's what our knights do. That's how much
they care about us.
Daniel McInnes in Parts Unknown to 3343 I can't find a note from
him anywhere. Oh, wait, wait. He also gave 240 Okay 233 For three
keys come in this for some reasons twice on here. I don't
know why. Oh, so he's only the heat. Do we have to we get to
him. Okay, that's it. That's it more when George and Erin I'm
donating whilst on a matar on modalert Indian generic
Modafinil. So it's read any of this note, please do so in a
suitable pro visual voice. Whatever that is, I think it's
the first listen to your new life hack podcasts circuit show
300 inspired me to create one of my own you can go check it
out@polsymtas.com He's in Australia guess New South Wales.
Now. He's this is a long note. But he does have a thesis that
about the number 33 and Nigma
Oh, hold on a second. Let's just
imagine for those of you new to the program we have been
tracking the use of the number 33 for years and for decades,
and have always wondered what is the code what does it mean this
is a theory.
And the whole thing is anyway, he's got a number I'll read this
just a little lengthy but I'll read it anyway because we are
baffled by this phenomenon. He says that the first phase was
the 3d starting with a pathetic Iran's and 500 BCE and further
popularized as the holy trinity of Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Next phase was the 13th starting with the arrest of the Knights
Templar on October Friday, the 13th 13th oh seven, which I
think is big Friday the 13th a bad name. It was described as
unlucky to stop those outside of the lumbar Prados. from using it
the 13th was replaced by 23 with the signing of the Federal
Reserve Act on December 23 1913, and popularized the phrase 23
SkiDoo, the 33 phrase convention with the dropping of the first
atom bomb authorized by Truman, the 33rd president, the USA is
33 minutes away from annihilation, you can find out
from 33 Dash minutes.com. That was JFK era by preventing a new
nuclear war during the Cuban Missile Crisis pushed the world
back to phase 23 until 1984, the 33rd governor of California
Ronald Reagan, and his 33 degree Mason friends pushed us into 33.
He set up his their theory, which he doesn't believe he says
is that there you have a de code varying from 23
or no from 13 to 33, which 43 is coming,
and he says the 43 phase commenced on September 11 2001.
With George Bush, the 43rd president completed a reading
from the Book of the Dead, aka the Rome MiCon, aka the pet
goat. Although the 33 is still around, and even the 23 is the
43 you need to worry about any star in this movie should be
considered suspect.
Wow. Okay, so we actually we've been duped.
We don't even know what any of this is all just numbers. 40 We
need to be looking for 43 not 30. Okay, well,
I'm gonna look at in fact, he gave us $233.43 Making him
suspect. Yes.
Okay, so All right. Well, I like that. So all right, so now we've
all got it programmed in our brains. We're now looking for 43
as the number that will be the new magic number 33 is
apparently passe. Well,
you know, it's just another explanation for this. The turret
the 1323 3343 continuum may be like a gauge of bullcrap or
whatever. So when these numbers come up, you can take it you
know, you have to you have to reevaluate the, the context in
which the number is dropped.
I'm just writing it down a gauge of bullcrap. Okay, yeah, gauge
double digit bullcrap.
So anyway, we this are only our only two producers for this
show. 521 I want to thank both of them, but remind people we do
have a show coming up on Sunday. We like to get some some people
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To vorak.org/and We'd like you to help us propagate the
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And while they're probably getting into farming, I want to
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doing it consistently, which is dropped the No agenda.com. No
agenda show.com URL into comments and various blogs and
outlets. And if you can't do it, because they won't let you put
in a URL, tell people to Google the words, no. Agenda.
Yeah, that's about all you need. We have a lot of probably
better. We have a lot of people who work in the alphabet
agencies listening to the show. And I don't think anyone has
really, technically violated the law. But after I said, Hey, how
come? How can we don't get people sending us cool
PowerPoints? I started get some interesting emails. Yeah, I'll
bet you did. Yeah. And let me say right
off the bat, send them to Adam. That's what he wants to say.
But I'd like to I'd like to say that, since we now know that as
a high college dropout, at the NSA, you can get a $200,000
consulting gig.
No wrong, high school dropout, high school dropout,
you can get a $200,000 consulting gig in Hawaii, I
would like to sign up, please, can I get this gig? This is
fantastic. Talk about your techno boondoggle. But here's a
really, I'm just gonna read a couple of quick notes that I
received from people about and sis admins are the other group
that are well represented. We always celebrate two world
sysadmin coming up in July again, and and we know that the
SIS admins really keep the world running. So I will omit names
and in some cases, I will omit the places of work, but it will
become apparent what we're talking about. Adam, I used to
manage the voicemail engineering operations team at a large cable
and internet provider. As part of that role, I was heavily
involved with the guys that actually ran the switch side of
things. There were a lot of voice switches replaced during
my stint. And during every replacement, we'd have folks
from the FBI and NSA on the call monitoring to ensure they could
tap in as soon as they were up. The network side of the house
was and is a bit immature with their monitoring. So the guys
from the FBI or NSA would often say, hey, we can hear the phone
calls. Again. Thanks, good work, and drop off the call before our
own switch team could verify the switches were active. We'd also
sometimes see Aaron signals and start snooping to see what was
going on. Only to find that governments were pulling voice
calls no warrant, as when there was a warrant, the legal team
would give us a heads up just wide open. I talked to the other
big telco, cable and internet company folks as well. They said
the exact same thing. So this is straight from the horse's mouth.
This is another I got this a short message. Just so you know,
the intelligence community considers text messages to be a
part of meta data. That's something that no one has asked
up there on the hill. Although smarties and I'm listening to
Sunday's no agenda can tell you unequivocally that government
agencies monitor and listen to phone calls. I manage operations
at a very, very, very large ISP and used to manage part of our
voice network, the FBI had open monitoring of our switches. It's
often pretty shocking that they can tell us that there's an
issue a resolution of an issue on a voice switch before our own
monitoring systems can send out a ping but the FBI is
troubleshooting. And then down under Add on my work for a telco
in Australia. I'd rather not be identified of course. But I say,
spying, telco spying as a part of any install, we do, we need
to provide taps for regulatory compliance, taps basically copy
any data, send it off to another router switch network. This is
probably not illegal in Australia. But this is exactly
what's happening everywhere. The government has full access, and
I am unclear on whether they need a warrant. The whole
regulatory group that looks after this stuff is rather
secretive Surprise, surprise. While I was working at the same
telco I worked on a project in the corporate space where we
were listening on our call center traffic, you know, your
call may be recorded. The duplicate voice stream was sent
to a server with software to analyze the call the software
was able to analyze a customer's voice detect whether they were
pissed off happy stressed. I'm guessing most of the time they
were pissed off. As I said it was a telco and I would not at
all be surprised if the NSA CIA whoever had more sophisticated
software that looks for keywords along with particular emotion
and raises a flag. And then there's one other thing about
some new stuff but yeah, so this is this is going on it is
rampant, it is completely rampant. Now, here's something
very interesting that I noticed. Just it stuck in the back of my
mind and then And one of our anonymous producers said, you
know, check out this guy. This is the keynote at the Chaos
Computer Club. And I think this is the 2012 keynote, and it's
done by a guy named Jacob Appelbaum. Are you familiar with
Jacob Appelbaum? No, never heard of him. So Jacob Appelbaum and
Chaos Computer Club is a German, kind of like hacker computer
club. He first appeared for a while, yeah, but he first
appeared on the scene in 2010. At the hope Conference, which is
hackers of people earth or something, and they were
supposed to be this was the height of WikiLeaks, they were
supposed to be a WikiLeaks, Keynote, every thought everyone
thought Assange was going to show up. And he shows up, and he
says, Hi, I am Jacob Appelbaum from WikiLeaks, also, the guy
who is helped create the Tor network, which we have heard
this guy speak. And so the Tor network is is created by the
government. That is the was it not? Which department created
the Tor network, John,
is that Apple bomb did
well, but I think it's DARPA. It was commissioned by DARPA. But
anyway, so he starts off this keynote, and something very
interesting happens. So the
Chaos Computer Club, to me is like family. And it is such an
honor to be able to speak to everyone here. And it is
ridiculous that they asked me to give the keynote, I hope that I
am not wasting 3000 collective hours of the smartest people on
the planet with what I have to say in the next 60 minutes.
I want to start by thanking everyone that is in the audience
for being here. And for some specific people. I want to call
out Laura Poitras, Who's this woman here next to the woman
with the camera because she produced and edited the videos
that we're going to see, I've been working with her quite a
lot. And she's a very inspirational, wonderful artist
who I love deeply. And I'd like to start by playing a video,
which is part of an art project we're working on that many
people are working on. And if we could play that first video, I
think it would be a good way to start this off. So then
he goes on and shows a video, highly stylized video of the
building of the NSA data center in Utah. You know, it's like,
what is it? What are they building what everyone knows the
NSA data center? It's kind of obvious what they're doing, but
so done by Laura Poitras. And if you look at the Snowden video,
that appeared, in fact, that appeared just moments after we
stopped the show on Sunday, you will see this is what bothered
me. I was like that's the you know, the way they had the guy
that shot him with a mirror in the background. So you saw the
back of his neck. Did you notice any of that John, was that
notice?
Well, that's what we're going to talk about a little bit about
this guy, because this is getting fishier as this year as
you go so
this will probably help a lead in there. At the end of that
video. There's credits. Credits are Glenn Greenwald, and Laura
portress. So all of a sudden, this guy comes out of the
woodwork in Hong Kong. And this artist Laura Poitras, who is
involved with Wikileaks has now done this highly stylized video.
And she's curiously a 2012 MacArthur Fellow,
curiously, this so we already know that WikiLeaks, we believe
is a CIA, spokes pipe. essentially getting anything out
there that is either someone who needs to be obliterated, because
they're not CIA, or anything that helps the CIA because the
CIA runs the show. And now we have the whole thing that really
bothered me about that video, all of a sudden, wow, click. We
have this known WikiLeaks compatriot. Now, who is, I
guess, speaks on behalf of Julian Assange created the Tor
network, which is a government project, everyone's Oh, you
gotta use it. The No, I'm not gonna use the Tor network. The
government created it, how can you think that's great? Please
don't email about how security is
there. As an aside, I've always been fascinated by the Tor
network myself, especially the nature of it. And I think that
you might be right about the whole thing being just a front
where they just can easily track you. Because you're in that it's
easier to track somebody in a network like that, if you if you
can get into it, than it is to attract a wide open web wide
open Internet because it's just a mess. Right? Yeah, just a
mess, is a message tons of information. Let's take the
people who think they're going to be cheaters and put them in
this network and then we'll just track them. Now. I think they
busted a few people along the way. And somebody started
questioning the Tor network, because there was a really
interesting and I read it. I think the New York Times wrote
about this. Apparently they they need an excuse. Well, how did
you find someone If they went into the Tor network, and this
article came out about their trick i They tricked they found
a way to beat the Tor network. The government did. Well, tre
was the way well, they figured that they could see everybody
entering the Tor network, and then it gets scrambled. And then
they could by timing, the input and then the output. And because
you could follow it, there's only a limited number of outputs
of the Tor network, there's not infinite, and you could time the
person going in. And then when they come out at that exact at
the same moment, as opposed to the other people going in and
microseconds later, you can identify that this guy wrote
this message. That was their excuse, right? I mean, it sounds
reasonable. But that sounds like a lot of work. If you don't even
need to do that. It just sounds like the excuse for digging
people up right out of the middle of and
he says here Tor was originally designed, implemented and
deployed as a third generation Onion Routing project of the US
Naval Research Laboratory. That's the origination of it.
All right, and you don't and please do not email me saying
Bruce Schneier said it's safe. And you know, you don't know
what you're talking about. Because you're right. I don't
know what I'm talking about.
I haven't I have not. What we're doing is presenting what we've
discovered. Thank
you. Thank you. No, no arguments necessary. I have no idea what
I'm talking about. But at least I'm not saying we need to
protect.com but this Nora, Laura portress.
I was like, why the way if you're working if you're? I
don't know that she's anything other than just some artists.
But it seems to me that if I was an artist, and I was working for
one of the alphabet agencies, a good way to pay me would be
through a MacArthur Fellow grant.
$500,000. Yeah. 500 500 smackers. Yeah. And so this guy,
he acts free by the way, this guy pops out of the woodwork and
spring. Oh, yeah. This guy pops out of the woodwork in Hong
Kong. And then Glenn Greenwald says, Oh, let me think we need
to make this an art project. Yes. Hold on one second. Let me
call in Laura. She's done great work with that WikiLeaks people
know it stinks a little bit. Couple of
things that stink. Let's play the kind of, well, first of all,
let's play the there's a thing with Greenwillow I have Tapper.
Jake had him on the show. Yeah. And there's a little kind of
kicker at the end. And it talks about John Greenwald is now in
Hong Kong. But let's play the tapper clip.
We have never received a blanket request or court order from any
government agency asking for information or metadata in bulk
like the one Verizon reportedly received. And if we did, we
would find it aggressively. We hadn't even heard of prism. Now,
I know that there are statements in that comment that Zuckerberg
wrote that are one could one could parse for instance. Okay.
He didn't know it was called PRISM. But that doesn't mean he
didn't know that there wasn't a program. But is there anything
specifically in what he and the other tech companies have said,
that is not true, just downright false? Here's what our story
reported, that we have a top secret document from the NSA
that talks about the PRISM program. And what it described,
in its own words, is direct collection of data from the
servers of those companies. So we reported that we then went to
the tech companies before our story was published, we asked
them about it. They said that wasn't true. We reported that
the tech companies deny it and that there was a discrepancy
between what the NSA claims is going on between the companies
and the government and what the company has claimed that stop.
That's not true. He's saying it's not true, what he's saying.
There's a discrepancy between some PowerPoint and document of
which he has not released the entire document. And what the
tech companies say, very different. I'm not falling for
that was the nature of our story is they are denying that what
the NSA says they're doing. Maybe it's because the NSA is
doing it without their knowledge, maybe because their
semantic games going on. Maybe the truth is in between, since
then, the New York Times did more reporting and documented
the very extensive negotiations that exactly Mark Zuckerberg
denied, in which the NSA went to Silicon Valley executives and
asked for full direct access to their servers, they negotiated.
varying different companies gave varying forms of access, but
it's still quite ambiguous. I want the American people and
they should know that exactly what it is that the government
and the tech companies are collaborating on or negotiating
or talking about in terms of turning over access to all this
data that millions of people around the world use to
communicate with one another to the US government. This should
all be done in public, not in the dark. I don't think his
mission is is pristine. Is that what he that's what he wants, he
wants the American public to know that the internet companies
are spying or should we really like this whole thing, too. We
just cut to the chase that Glenn that's not what it's about. What
it's really about is that we have forgotten all our rights,
and that the government is just blanketly scooping everything
up. But that's not what he's saying. He's like, Oh, you
should be angry at the tech companies. Why is he What is he
short Google? And it's very hard. You know, it's a very
unpopular position to say that I'm not 100% Believing that
green Greenwald is pristine. And people get very angry.
Oh, yeah, no, people love this guy.
And here's Eric Schmidt, when he was still CEO of Google, people
are treating Google like their most trusted friend, should they
be? Well,
I think judgment matters. Eric Schmidt is Google CEO. If you
have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you
shouldn't be doing it in the first place. But if you really
need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines,
including Google do retain this information for some time. And
it's important, for example, that we are all subject to the
United States to the Patriot Act, it is possible that that
information could be made available to the authorities.
Oh, there you go. There's no secret there. Nope. We know that
the NSA has an entire division within Google, the court
approved that to be kept secret. So is there what they do? Just
don't tell us what they're doing. It's no secret. So what
is this really about? What is it really about? I did to me? I
don't know an Apple comes out with a new iOS
seven, there may be some interagency warfare,
it has to be that it must be it.
Maybe they want to get rid of of Keith or Kenny or whatever his
name is.
What's my understanding that guy's been in a little
long? You know, dude, what happens when you get the head of
an agency that you just, you end up grabbing a lot of blackmail
material? Let's be honest. Yeah. Well, this is what happened with
Herbert Hoover. This is why they changed the law about how long
you can stay in the FBI. Because essentially, you can start
building up a bunch of blackmail material. That's what this is.
That's what's snooping. Does the human go to say, oh, you know,
Senator, yeah, it's interesting. I wonder, Does your wife know
anything about this girls that you're having sex with? Yeah.
You know, I mean, that kind of thing. Well, oh, well, maybe
maybe if you voted this way, it wouldn't be a big deal. Have you
seen we wouldn't be able to tell her but you know, she might want
to find out if you vote the other way. I mean, this becomes
what happens and it's up to this the response. I think it's a
good thing if they're, if this is going on and they're
Rousteing. I'm getting rid of clapper and this guy, Hamilton.
Oh, you notice that the Assistant Director of the CIA
resigned after 33 years, and President Obama has appointed a
lawyer. One of his the White House Counsel, first time ever
this has happened. So now he has Brennan in and he has the keys.
The President is afraid of the CIA. He's like I'm putting as
many people in there. What are you? You're my friend, right?
Yeah, you're in here. Take this chair is a woman and the
admiral. And so she will now be the assistant director of the
CIA in case Brennan gets off then she's she pops up to the
top. So he's building his wall of defense against the CIA and I
think he's right to do it. I understand I the more I reflect
on our previous episode, the more I'm thinking dude is
frightened.
He is, well, probably has good reason I would assume over in
Gitmo nation East in the UK there's a big fractious about
this as their version of the NSA apparently has had the same
access to the tech company's data and that they're they roll
out to their own version of Keith His name is Major General
Jonathan shore he is the the general of cyber douche Enos and
and you thought we had a bad here in the United States. There
were you know, the guy's got to come in and do a little dog and
pony show on the hill. These guys just get the phone it in,
just thrown in their their their denial on Skype.
The problem is that people seem to regard cyberspace as some
sacrosanct area where normal laws don't apply. This isn't
true. criminal activity is still criminal activity, whether it
takes place in cyberspace or whether it takes place in the
normal public domains. And it needs policing and the the
intelligence agencies need to operate there, to find out
what's going on and to and to keep us all safe. And clearly
there's a balance there. But if all the normal checks and
balances apply, we really shouldn't worry about it. What
are the normal checks and balances? Well, I think you'd
better ask an expert on that. On the
we at least have like a constitution that spells it out.
He says, oh, you should check so who knows what's going on with
that? But this checks and balances this morning
explaining those parliamentary checks and balances the
ministerial clearances, but they're all They're all well
established,
and wait for it. If people don't know
about them. It's not that they don't exist. It's just because
quite rightly, they're they're quite classified and kept kept
quiet secret by the government.
The so in the UK, the checks and balances are secret. That's a
good
poor slaves. Oops. Ah, okay. Do you have anything more on on
this? Because then I just want to wrap it up if
you know, but there are a couple of things that we still have to
keep an eye out for which is where are the rest of the
slides? Do we know the slides or even? I mean, do you think about
Zuckerberg coming out saying we don't you know, I've just
baffling Zuckerberg is not the type of guy who would just be an
outlier. He seems like kind of a artists semi artistic in some
way. It's not like a conniving character type. I don't. I don't
know. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I don't know. But he
doesn't seem like it. This could be going on behind his back. It
could you know, they keep trying to oust him if nobody's not
noticed. And I think he was kind of oblivious when Mueller
Mueller was roaming around the halls. And he said, Well, that's
interesting. He's doing it. What's
he doing here? I don't think Zuckerberg runs much of
Facebook.
So who knows what's going on there. But it'd be crazy not to
use Facebook as a resource if I was any of these agencies, just
a goldmine.
Okay, so here is the final bit that I just need to put out
there. And this is a continuation of my war against
Adobe, the most evil company on the planet. And had some help
from a number of people on on this. So Adobe, as we discussed
has, of course, flash and they purchased Omniture for $3
billion Omniture. If you install Ghostery, in your browser
plugin, you will see that pretty much every single page on the
chair is being loaded. And they load a node.js thing. So there's
all kinds of interesting stuff happening with Omniture.
Omniture is the big tracking company that all the advertising
agencies subscribe to. And they have built a enormous data
center in Utah and silicon slope, which is made and be
connected underground, to the new NSA data center. Even Leo
Laporte knew this. So I wanted to find with these big companies
and and Adobe for a company that, you know, just gotten you
think they might just be making like PDF stuff and, you know,
Creative Suite. Now, they actually have quite a big
government arm. It's called Adobe government, and Omniture.
After they purchased it became Adobe insight. And it took me a
little while but I got their Adobe insight white paper as a
part of Adobe government. And I would just like to read this to
you verbatim, and you tell me that they are not marketing to
government exactly what government says they're not
doing. So someone's lying. Adobe insight powered by Omniture
accelerating government intelligence to the speed of
thought. This is a great document. By the way, it's all
marked up in the show notes, the speed of thought, which sounds a
bit like pre crime. Government agencies and organizations need
to, quote need close to real time access to data as it's
collected, to respond effectively to issues that
analysis reveals. Dedicated government agency analysis,
including those in law enforcement and military
organizations perform regular intelligence analysis that are
critical to the day to day operations and stability of the
country. These analysts assemble and process data from a myriad
of sources that include open sources like the internet and
close sources such as intelligence records in
government databases, intelligence analysts, wow,
intelligence, endless analysis, to make sense of it all very
quickly and convert volumes of raw data into actionable,
actionable knowledge is vital to the nation's well being. In
addition, intelligence analysts must identify patterns and
persons of interest from billions of raw data points.
They need to quickly combine cell phone, Global Positioning
System, email and call detail records to produce valuable
intelligence. And they need to explore vast volumes of data
without the help of large IT teams creating a new view or
cube from every new question that arises. Now let me just
pause there. Doesn't that sound like? This is exactly what the
government is saying they don't do A little bit. Yeah, every
phone call credit card transaction and visit to a
website creates a data point that is collected and stored in
different systems. Oh, really. That's what they say that's not
happening. The issues that the data is in a multitude of
disparate data types transactional data that provides
information about events such as credit card purchases, and as an
aside that comes through the Adobe Mercado, which is their
transactional system, they purchase this as well. That is
the a lot of companies are moving to Adobe Mercado, which
is a credit card transactions, which they handle the back end
for you pay pal does it as well, of course, the details of a cell
phone call or an airline flight booking, there's also streaming
data or continuous flow of log type information that follows
movement, such as a weblog that streams information on what a
user is doing. Every page visited every click every item
viewed and so forth. Lastly, unstructured data is constantly
being generated, such as blogs, comments and articles,
discussion forums, email, other socially driven communications
and commentary. Combining these disparate data types into one
common environment for analysis is a daunting task. But Adobe
insight is your partner. They are they are adding their
tracking data of you to the mix. And they're providing this
service to the US government. And they're not bashful about
saying they do it either.
No, that's what you always find out in a white paper. That's
what you found out when you dug up the stuff about vaccines
being the best thing ever? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's a good that's
a good piece. Yeah, that's gonna be in the show notes.
Yes, five to one.na show notes.ca. And it goes on and on.
There's all kinds of stuff. But just look at him. They are
honest. It's called Silicon slope. It's in Utah. They're
right next to the big NSA data center.
And apparently according to people that have been writing
assisted they're hiring like crazy Khurana job go move
to Utah 1000s of people 1000s We're still awaiting Adobe
primetime to slip into iOS I thought that might happen on
their announcement.
Function not everything catches on there. Funny
observation. You know, then so the new powermax the ugliest
thing ever invented
a little strict thing when all kinds of design awards that ugly
thing Yeah.
According to one of my producers, because it's
apparently it's machined, so it's not really it's assembled
in America and machined in America. And I believe Texas as
you know, so was one of the spots turn like wow, you know
that you machining something in America is very expensive until
you realize it has the exact diameter as a Hellfire missile.
Taken empty shells. Excess, it is the exact diameter as a
Hellfire missile. Hey, what can we do with these shells? We
didn't sell yet.
What are we gonna do with this crap?
Hey, call cook. Hey, call lives. I got a great idea.
We got the machine shop ready to go. It's all computerized. Had a
great night.
I think what a mistake, I think its biggest mistake ever.
campaign? I think so. Really. They had to do something. And I
think this was a good thing. So I wanted to, say
Android Windows user.
Well, there's that. So but back onto the under this, this
character in Hong Kong. Why is that one day because there's a
couple of things that came up I forgot to mention. And I want
you to play this clip and tell me if there's something doesn't
stand out like a sore thumb. When you listen to Bashir,
discussing the Snowden and while you'll see play it,
or truth teller in Latin, Snowden says he copied the top
secret documents from his job at an NSA station in Hawaii,
working with defense contractor Booz Allen Hamilton, a company
that's one billions of dollars in secret government contracts
in the past decade, telling his supervisor that he needed to be
away for a few weeks to seek seek treatment for epilepsy. He
hopped on May 20 flight to Hong Kong, where he said to be holed
up seeking political asylum, possibly from Iceland or
Ecuador. Snowden told The Guardian, he has carefully
considered the consequences of his actions.
Would you mean the entire concept of having someone with
that kind of access who suffers from epilepsy? Is that what
you're referring to?
No, I'm referring to the specific mention of Ecuador and
Iceland as places where he might want to go now Iceland,
WikiLeaks,
Wikileaks. Wikileaks spots
any possibility that this guy is being set up as a straw man to
then end up in, in Ecuador, not Iceland, which is where you'd
rather be if you'd like women, but Ecuador because there's
times more women but to to to kill Assange.
Oh, I like that.
The guy was a special forces guy broke both legs supposedly
right? Ah, he's been trained to kill.
Oh, this is a very interesting theory. John. I like this a lot.
So he's. So the idea is make it really public. And then maybe
there'll be some non the lamb. There'll be some huge gunfight
and he'll emerge. And so I really tried to protect Julian.
Yeah, unfortunately,
that would work his head split. So here's what here's what we
have to look out for. And this guy's routing, he, you know, he
may be picked up by the Russians, and then put in Russia
for a while and then transferred to Ecuador. But he's not
comfortable in Russia, whatever the excuse is, and then somehow
Assange ends up going to Ecuador. If the two of them are
in Ecuador at the same time, then Assange is done.
Wow, good one. I'll take that. I like it. I like it.
Meanwhile, but
why why? Why would they have to do that? Why do we need to get
rid of Assange? If he's doing great.
That's the question that comes to mind. I mean, we have to
watch this as it unfolds. But what does Assange know? What
what's missing from this picture? Maybe Assange still has
that those bank records someplace or at yo he's gonna
blow the lid off the bank? Can you?
Can you read book this please? Sorry. I think you need to read
book this red book. Yeah. Red Book it
to something we don't know about Assange. I'm sure of that. Are
they? I mean, this is too freaky. This whole Assange
story? Who cares? Right.
Okay, one other thing just to make sure that we know that
Russia today is really up on on things. The Rt report just a
little short of flub. Sorry, not even acknowledged. Wait, there's
there's two party report on prison. Okay.
There's two. I'm glad I asked.
Already and the Washington Post a highly classified program
dumped in prison. Prison. prison.
Prison. What? What does he say? I don't know. Let me listen to
that again.
Guardian and The Washington Post a highly classified program
dubbed prison
prison. Sounds like she's like a computer voice prison prison. I
mean,
it's like I get the late
lane, told on the same printer.
I can't even pronounce what she said. The lame RT report on
cyber Texas. Another gotcha in here. I want to bring it up.
Okay, hold
on a second.
Germans have more muscle flexing comes the handshaking. US
President Barack Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping
will likely play nice for the cameras. But behind the closed
California mansion doors of this first bilateral summit, a tense
talk over a cyber espionage hacking, and rules of Virtual
Engagement.
Think of it as like the chemical and biological weapons
convention so everyone can make those sorts of weapons, but most
countries agree not to do so or to use them in conflict. The
same thing is true of cyber everyone's got advanced
information technology, but we can agree perhaps not to attack
each other's infrastructures or at least not to start doing it.
However, the US has repeatedly accused the rising Asian giant
of widespread computer hacking. Just last week, a report by the
Defense Science Board said nearly 40 Pentagon weapons
programs, and almost 30 other defense technologies were
compromised by hackers, some directly tied to the Chinese
military and government. US manufacturers have also accused
China of stealing patents and designs of high technology.
We're also clear eyed
about the challenges in cyber.
Okay, all right. So this is a meme that keeps cropping up and
I'm going to ask you what, what you think. What is the point of
going through a rigmarole to steal patents when all you have
to do is go to the patent office and download the patent?
Well, this is a setup for the new steal a patent now you don't
this is a setup for the TPP it's just more trickery to make
people believe that there's some kind of threat that doesn't
really exist.
I mean, you can steal as a trade secret but those things are
usually under lock and key that that would be important. But
patents or public documents. How would ya anyway you just keep
hearing this. This was only one of them. 10 reports where I've
heard who the hackers are stealing patents No it's Did you
steal a patent? Well this is the new one I can download it for
you Hey
You What are you a terrorist You can't be like stealing just
downloading patents for somebody that's not okay John
hey wait just hold on we have
we have a report in from our T again saw program known as
brazen
Yeah. Oh, this is this is just nuts. This is just stupidity.
This is why people listen to us the best podcast in the universe
because we don't fall for this gobbledygook.
Not falling for it,
play this play this interesting clip, impeach the president
report.
Three of the opening of Oh, it's my friend Amy Goodman.
Guantanamo, protests are scheduled around the world to
call for the person's closing. And in San Francisco, about 1200
peace activists gathered on the beach Saturday to spell out the
word impeach, in giant letters visible from the sky. The
protest occurred in the district of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Of course, to get the detail there was how speaker that was
in 2007 when they wanted to impeach bush for not closing
down Guantanamo, which was the big story in 2007. Why don't you
close Guantanamo, impeach Bush, right. I don't I haven't seen
that impeach thing sense.
And for whose benefit is that? Is that just for the news
helicopters or how does that work? It's wild. Sky.
Yeah, it was obviously for the news helicopters. It Meanwhile,
there was it on that same 2007 report where they kept calling
for the impeachment of bush for doing less than Obama's doing.
There was this screwy story which is typical of this show
and not our show, but of her show. And most of the media is
this story that has really was I don't remember a follow up ever.
And this is the deportation clip. This is a funny one.
A prominent Muslim leader from Ohio was deported last week by
the US government and hasn't been heard from since for was
Dhanraj was the former Imam and Hieros largest mosque the
Islamic Center of Cleveland. In 2004. He was jailed for
allegedly concealing ties to the Palestinian group Islamic Jihad.
The US government says he was deported Thursday morning to the
West Bank, but his family and friends say no one's heard from
him since he was taken. Palestinian officials have said
they don't know where he is Thomas attorney He also
criticized the US for giving no notice. Prior to the
deportation, Donald was not given a chance to say goodbye to
his wife or his three daughters who were born in the United
States.
All right, what is the what is I don't know understand the point
of this one.
I think back in the day they used to grab guys out of the
prisons take them on and put them on a plane and throw them
out the door. Well, sure. It's just my thought.
Yeah. How's Nelson Mandela doing?
He's hanging in there because they don't need him yet. Well,
we got we got a voicemail from Nelson. Did we? Yes, we did.
Hurt me out domain Shawn. They're false or trying to kill
me. Right?
You go. Things are not well
play that again.
Did you like it? Yeah. Here we go. I think it's really him.
Piers hurt me out domain Shawn. There falsehoods are trying to
kill me. I think it's pretty decent.
We'll explain what that is.
That's Nelson Mandela saying please help me Adam and John.
The bastards are trying to kill me. You didn't understand what
you're saying. I
heard what he's saying. But is that okay, let's just let that
slide as a anomaly. That's
obviously Nelson Mandela. Oh, man. Did you see just to lighten
it up for a second? Did you see the it was the Japanese human
rights ambassador. This is a great clip. What's his name? He
date he Daiki ood wader I think is a name there on some human
rights phone call. Or a conference call. This is this.
And he says something and and like someone within his ranks?
Snickers Have you seen this? No.
Play it?
Certainly. Japan is not in the middle age. We are one of the
most advanced country in this field. Don't laugh. Why you are
laughing Shut up. Shut up
my rapping
Okay. Got up. Got it Tip of the Day right?
I wasn't even expecting that that's the right kind of I will
accept because I think it's pretty good anyway
so while we're playing these kinds of things why? Shut up?
Shut up Shut here's a I'm listening. I'm watching
parliament. The browser somebody has the wrong mic turned on. Oh
boy. It's not again they bring out some poor guy who's I guess
he's got injured egg roll them out in a wheelchair. And he's
trying to talk and meanwhile these the some of the I don't
know what side of the aisle this was. But there's some snide this
guy says this. The weirdest thing has nothing to do with
anything but it's like, oh, okay, you guys maybe should work
the mics a little better. But just playing tell me you don't
think it's a little odd
Chinese direct investment into the UK. All of this is welcome.
And we need to see it grow even further. Grim doubt.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Prime Minister confirm that he
understands the No, no. That's
the wrong clip. He says parliament. Yeah, I know the one
you want is. Where is it? Mike follow up. Oh, sorry. In
parliament. Stewart. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. is right. Don't
call him Shirley. People say on our future in Europe,
can he confirm the Conservative Party's commitment to
renegotiations and the referendum?
Might sound good guy who I don't know who's miked in this day
brought his wheelchair guy and this guy makes this comment from
airplane just don't call him surely. I didn't hear that at
all. Oh, don't you'll hear? Now listen to that whole clip was
very difficult. Watch because it was Miss Mike. That was the
point. Right? works better with video? No, there's no video. No,
it was the same thing. It was like what? It didn't have the
camera on the guy. Late again.
You really want me to love this, don't you? Stewart. That sound
like that guy from CNN, the British guy who's always doing
like travel things. Yeah.
Don't call him Shirley. Okay, so that's that's not meant to be
caught on Mike is what you're saying that one? Yeah. Call me
surely.
Oh, what did what was referenced? You know, I
I have not. Here's a question for you just to kind of meet a
more immediate question. In the United Kingdom. So because
someone actually asked me this about the Netherlands and for
the Netherlands, I was able to answer the question. But in the
United Kingdom, where are the true alternative news sources?
Like the where the podcast coming out of the UK? I mean, I
mean, I subscribe to a couple of RSS feeds from blogs and a
couple of people doing things, writing some stuff. But like the
Jimmy Savile thing is like the it's rampant. How police were
you abusing children protecting brothels being run out of
killing guys? I mean, just it's killing guys off the boat. It's
insane. What
is going on there? And no one is is like outraged, isn't there's
no, where's the yelling? And the screaming hasn't been locked
down so tight that if you start a podcast and say, Hey,
everyone, here's a bunch of pedo bear a whole murderers, that you
get bumped off or what is happening? Why? Why?
Where is this possible? Wow, get bumped off. Yeah, if somebody
comes over and works you over, just gives you a few to the gut.
And then you go do another podcast, the two guys come over
and give you
and even though the British press, the newspapers are
reporting on it, they do it in such a way that it becomes like,
whatever. You know what I mean? It's like the headlines are so
big, and so yelling and so loud, there's no real analysis of
what's going on. And of course, there's, you know, there's all
the celebratory stuff on the same page, and you can't take
anything seriously. It's very weird to me, and I remember
living there and I remember the feeling I think probably I do
remember the feeling of how I felt so uneasy all the time.
That if just the whole everything, there's one big ball
of bullcrap, everything that comes at you from the BBC, and
from the newspapers, it's all just a lie. And it makes you
feel sick. It really does. When I saw Dave Jackson School of
podcasting, I was interviewed for some Canadian thing. He
says, I don't I don't watch news. I listen to no agenda. So
that's what everyone should be doing. If you really want to get
some kind of news and figure out a little bit what's going on in
the world. Stay healthy.
Well, while we're on that, we might as well hear the biggest
shouting session I've ever heard on the parliament. And this is
the height to me. This is the highlight of the of Parliament.
play this clip and you hear the speaker go nuts,
Chinese direct investment into the UK. All of this is welcome
and we need to see it grow even further. Jim Dowd.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Prime Minister confirm that he
understands the importance of the creative industries to the
economy of this country, and that they need to be buttressed
by adequate intellectual property rights. But is he also
aware that his intellectual property Minister, that 20
handed son of toil, the fifth vi count, younger the fifth, the
fifth blackout younger of Leckie recently recently told the
culture media and sports select committee in relation to Google.
I am very aware of their power. I am also very aware that they
have access for whatever reason to higher levels at number 10
than do I discredit.
The Honorable gentleman's question which refers to a
distinguished constituent of mine suffered from the
disadvantage of being too long PRIME MINISTER Well,
I will say they have better reality shows in the UK that's
for sure.
But we always have to remember when we play these we don't play
them that much. tend to be like this. That these were scripted
completely scripted that we had one of the I forgot who it was
it was somebody in the Blair administration
it's all it's all scripted. Yeah. You someone
are all scripted the Prime Minister writes as one zingers
after he sees which one who will be picked
Well I think it's sad because you know here in America we have
complete freedom and we have people like our friend Reverend
Manning
just take back to the producer from
so I you know, there was a we did a little story on or we had
Amy Goodman was embarrassed on C span was somebody says she's an
anti Israel essentially. Yeah, and there's here's an
interesting story that you probably haven't heard the nukes
in Israel clip on the democracy house show.
Israel's drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran's uranium
enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons this
according to the Times of London. The papers reporting to
Israeli Air Force squadrons are training to blow up an Iranian
facility using low yield nuclear bunker busters. The attack would
be the first with nuclear weapons since 1945, when the
United States dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The Israeli weapons would each have a force equivalent to 1/15
of the Hiroshima bomb. The Israeli Foreign Ministry denied
the report
no weak and according to the way I see it says that report was
from 2007
Oh no, you keep doing this to me Stop that. You're tricking
obviously the foreign minister was correct. This is bullcrap.
You're tricking
me, John. We have to make a pact. You can't be doing this
unless you you have to announce it. I mean, I played you Joe
Biden. You know and this is this by the way is a mainstream media
thing now where where the mainstream is now pulling
Obama's 2007 campaign promises
that I know that clip I thought that was even thinking a clip in
it but I decided on everyone sorted Emily, we
need to we need to thank our producers John we're a little
bit behind today. So let me get right into that.
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Yes. So you've done it numerous times. I
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I thought it was. I thought you were working on it. I thought it
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German accent.
What kind of an accent is that? Brooklyn Giroux,
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World War Two German accent and you'd find in in a beer Tavern
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But whenever I finally get nailed, I've noticed this. I
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goat. People always going to Australia. You know like
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I don't know. We've never heard anyone complain. He said this
guy.
No, no, I'm, I've been there. I've been there. I know.
And I start slowly picking up the axe. I'm
afraid to go back. Really, I'm afraid to go. Because I think
it's going to be so disappointing because it used to
be so awesomely free. And, and you know, I was there when they
still had guns.
Oh yeah, those days are over.
It's all gone now. Ah, yes. Oh man. Might My ears hurt them?
That doesn't happen often.
What happened? Oh,
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So while you were talking, oh, we have no knighting No, no
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No, no night hedge or whatsoever but that's okay. Because slowly
you caught me off guard with the the non reported scandal of the
of the guy the Belgian ambassador. Picking up on
there's another thing that's brewing that embodies the A that
is I think, is holding it in abeyance. In Bosnia. Yeah, the
new and weird Bosnian crisis. Okay.
The Bosnian parliament was blockaded by parents overnight
angry at lawmakers inability to agree on the registration of
newborns. Since February babies have not been given birth
certificates in a row over number allocation between the
different factions in the country. Hundreds of young
mothers and fathers gathered yesterday blowing whistles and
shouting slogans sparked by the case of a baby that needs to go
to hospital in Germany for stem cell treatment. But since she
has no documentation, the infant cannot leave the country. The
baby's mother spoke of her frustration. We've asked for an
ID number from the municipality but they told my husband it
could not be issued. They said they were willing to help but
there was nothing they could do. It's another example of the
ethnic divisions within the country since the end of the war
in 1995, central authority has been weak. Now a temporary
measure has been adopted by the government which unblocks the
registration process for six months until hopefully a new
agreement is reached. Explain this. I'm
not exactly sure what's happening. They know that
Bosnia is still a split country and it looks like I think all
hell's gonna break loose. It's just that this is just an
indication of Yeah, well, that's where everything stems from.
This used to be Yugoslavia was part of that area, right?
This soul skit balkanized now, I don't even know what
were they bosnia-herzegovina?
Yeah, the whole bunch of them. Anyway, so they can't deliver
birth certificates. Because there's one side says it has to
be this birth certificate. The other side says this got it got.
And so they got a bunch of kids in limbo. So if somebody has to
get out of the country for some medical treatment, they can't do
it. The whole thing is, is ludicrous. You have no papers,
by the way, by the way, can
I just say something? Is Bosnia Herzegovina? Is that Europe now?
Yeah, I think so. Then they should need papers to travel
this then it's a bull crap. No, no,
no, no, not folded. No, I'm wrong. All right. All right. So
here's the deal. Why this bugs me, by the way, because I first
heard this when I was in Spain. When I went to school, I saw
protests taking place where all the people in the protests had
police whistles, and they were blowing them loudly. Yes, we've
discussed this right? Yeah, I'm going to discuss it again. No,
so and I had these, I had this, listen to this clip, you're
going to hear people with the police whistles, but when you
hear a lot of them, it's very creepy. I mean, it's really gets
the attention of everybody. It sounds like Tor all hell's
breaking loose is very good at technique. In the United States,
you can't do that. You can't have a bullhorn, when they did
the Occupy thing, nobody could bring out a bullhorn. So they
came with a stupid Mic check. Which was funny, but it was, you
know, still was admitting that you can't, what kind of what is
this? This is like the country has been de nutted to such such
an extreme that you can have a police whistle, and you can't
blow it in protest. You can't have a bullhorn, you can't yell
into it and protest you and then there they have the free speech
zones, which I can't believe people put up with when they had
the conventions. They put everybody in cages off to the
side where nobody would see them. It's just it's just gone
too far.
Okay, what are you gonna do about it? Nothing. Okay.
I got nothing to say. That's all I got. Was it all I can do is
what I do I complain?
Yeah. Is the police whistle illegal? Is that the truth? Is
there something
that just don't believe them?
See? I don't think so. I think that that's, that doesn't make
any sense. I think we're just not inventive enough.
Well, it's being used the whole world over. You know, another
one that's being used a whole world that is actually it's not
being used as much as it should naked women. Now, well, that
too. But I've only seen this in a couple of some protest photos,
I think they were in South America. And what you do is you
have the you have a sign that looks like a cartoon bubble,
it's got like a big round, it's got the little pointy thing that
comes out the bottom, and you hold it up and you have it
pointing at you. And you write stuff on it. Like that. And when
people take pictures of it, it looks like a bunch of cartoon
characters saying stuff, and it's very entertaining. You can
have a lot of fun with that. Nobody does it. There are
protesters stink.
We have to we have spoken about the whistle thing. I believe we
at one point talked about a no agenda whistle. And I don't know
why we why that shouldn't be brought. It's I think it's very
effective. It's incredibly annoying to listen to it. And by
the way this I saw it scroll by in the chat room, and we didn't
even bring it up on the previous show. No, it's not going to be
illegal to annoy a cop in New York. That is not what the
legislation says. That is not what it says. You can't hit the
cop. That's what it says. You can't annoy him as a part of
annoying him Hit him. That's what it's, it's a stupid law.
But okay. There must be a reason for it.
Okay, here on September 14 2012 New Yorkers blew whistles
Thursday in protest against the police. So the idea is that
people carry these whistles all the time, and then they just
blow them. And there's some big fat one blowing a whistle in the
photo. And
speaking of no agenda premiums, I tested the brand new 33 bag at
the market on site. My 33 bag. Oh, I got the bag and I took it
to the market and it works great.
Is it a good market bag?
It's a fantastic market bag. Alright, and I'm not sure what
the deal is. But there's no agenda nation going to produce
them or what's happening?
I think so. Yeah. But I think what we're gonna do is he
probably will sell them in batches of 10 or something like
that for people want to give them away. And then we'll just
get like, 50 of them each. And we'll just give them away.
Yeah, I mean, they're kind of on the flimsy side.
Are they too flimsy? No, not at all. They look real. I'm gonna
get my bag look
really handsome. No, I'm in this, Mickey.
I'm sure it looks great. Well, with that logo. Oh, by the way,
tomorrow, tomorrow, John, we are going to our interview. Yes,
sorry, the big interview. This is it.
This is very voiceover work or for CIA?
No, this is Miss Mickey's interview with the Gestapo to
see if we're legitimate and if she can get her green card. This
is the one so this is where
they die for the SSD essay. Which group is this?
The shirts are brown regardless. Okay, there's the brown. This is
the one this is the one where we have to they're going to test us
to see if we're actually married or not. So we have to bring like
wedding photos. And then there's all these men that have
questions. And I actually have a list of some of these questions
if you're interested. If you think it's Let me see. Are we
have a lawyer because you know, we had to get a lawyer.
Oh yeah. No, if you don't actually I think they'd arrest
you in Pretoria and get mo so our lawyer will stop stop before
you say anything. Before I'm gonna I'm gonna forget this. I
got a box from Gitmo.
Yes, I got a box from from the big ass blonde.
It was the biggest blonde that sent you the
yes with a T shirt. A challenge coin and a card. Yeah,
I didn't get a card.
Well, you have Yeah, well, I'm gonna go
look back in the bottle.
I'm tight with
the boxes. It says hey,
I know I I'm thank you for bringing that up because I
completely left the box on the table. And so I hadn't seen it
and then talked about isn't that kind of her? And it's like the
radio get mo t shirt. Yeah,
like rocket mo they have a radio station that why wouldn't they?
I mean, you could broadcast the gizmo in
Cuba they got three stations. It's like one Oh 1.31 or 2.1 and
am all talk this is so many people so much interest in
running our show on
that station. Oh kidding.
How popular would we be? She tried to get us to broadcast
live from there but there was some. There was something that
some Ladies and like, No, I can't imagine why.
on my nerves.
So here's the type of questions. This is from our lawyer, who has
been doing this for a number of years. And by the way, so he had
a he had a pre call with us, says, let's just talk about
this. I just don't know why you feel comfortable. And he went,
he went to this whole thing. We're on the phone with him for
an hour. I said, So at what point do we start talking
Russian? Because this is like we're in Russia with all that.
He says, Adam, Russia is easier said he says and ever since
Boston says, Oh, my God, is it immigration into this country
has gone apeshit? As you can't get anything done? Everything is
no. Here's some of the questions. How many lamps are
there in your bedroom? How many end tables do you have in your
bedroom? What is the color of your sheets? How many
televisions do you have in your home? Do you have a stove get?
Stove gas? Is your stove gas or electric? When did you meet?
What's the location of your first date? Who drove to the US
immigration office today? What time does your spouse live way?
Way? Way? Way?
Way? Wait. Does that mean okay, there's other ones I see.
Whatever you say anything, it seems to me, but who drove to
the immigration offices a dipshit. Question a
trick question.
Why is that a trick question, because they'll
throw that in to see if you stumble.
Stumble about what's wrong? Yeah, I know.
That's if you didn't come together, you see if you came
separately, because you're shamming.
Once you say you came separately, see what happens?
Yeah, that's
a great idea. I don't know I ordered her from the catalog.
She just showed up
the front, but it's really, what is your question? Okay. What is
your spouse's best quality? How do you answer that?
What is it just as it is theoretical? Would you say? I
asked Mickey Lowe jobs. Would you say that?
This is my answer? Of course. Not. But I could we went through
these questions. I said, let's just do them. It's kind of like
the honeymoon quiz. I said what is what would you say is your
spouse's best, best quality and she and Mickey said he's
incredibly smart and loyal. Like hey, wait a minute. This doesn't
sound right. Loyal, huh? It's kind of weird, and we should
probably be in and out in five minutes.
But give me another question.
How many friends and relatives attended your wedding? Did you
have more than one ceremony? Be prepared to discuss?
He did have the ceremony do you have to admit it now? Yes, of
course. We did.
What time that? We got married in Vegas and then we got married
for real in in married for real in Vegas. Yeah, for real that
exactly. And then we and then we got which no only we have the
pictures of Vegas. How often does your spouse speak with her
family? Who does he or she speak with the most? What color is
your spouse's toothbrush?
Wow, I wouldn't answer I couldn't answer that. I couldn't
answer that in a million years and you might be deported
it's questions like this so anyway, it's no wonder people
sneak into the country it's no wonder to crazy process aren't
we in immigration land is not the whole point. Make it easy
for people
that find the whole thing distressing. Yeah, but we got no
skin in the game.
Not much of a skin that's for sure. Euro land things are not
going well in Greece. First of all, they've shut down the
public broadcasting station. Did you catch that?
Yeah, I thought that was great. Wow
What is Mickey Are you still testing the Hi Sam maybe it's
still on and someone hurting? Oh no, no. No dear. Oh, that's not
it. My glasses are hurting so I
got a clip that's been sitting down for a while I want to play
it because I want to see if you can spot the irony in this in
the way they present the story. And this is like you know the
your this is your warmest kind of a piece Okay, although it's
not about global warming. It's about energy and it's called
This Is this clip is called the slow plane
flow plan. Okay, and what am I supposed to be looking for here?
You're gonna spot the irony. Okay. Actually, the idiocy the
idiocy of it is a good name for his show, the idiocy and the
irony.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to listen and play the idiocy or
the irony. Here's the clip.
A plane powered only by the Sun is making Another slow motion
flight the Solar Impulse which runs on batteries at night, took
off early today from Dallas Fort Worth airport bound for St.
Louis at 33 miles an hour. The flights expected to take 21
hours. This is the third leg of a cross country journey designed
to promote renewable energy. Wait a minute,
wait a minute. Wait a minute. There was a math thing in here
that didn't sound right. Is doing 33 miles an hour and how
far was it going? It was only going to take 21 hours.
So it was just like from it's like from go play it again. To
begin with did wait. I think it's going from like Texas to
a plane powered only by the Sun is making another slow motion
flight Solar Impulse which runs on batteries at night. Took off
early today from Dallas Fort Worth airport bound for St.
Louis at 33 miles an hour. The flights expected to take 21
hours. This is the third leg of a cross country journey designed
to promote renewable energy.
Okay, I mean, the whole thing is dumb. It's just dumb as that
stupid flying bike everyone has been posting about. We have a
flying.
Here's what here's what kills me. This is to show you that we
can do over renewable, cheap energy. It's taken 21 hours to
go a short drive, you can make the drive yourself. Yeah. Does
anyone find this? ludicrous? Yeah, not gonna take all year to
go across the country. And this is a good thing.
I skip all this stuff. And how many people have tweeted me or
email me the link of the Flying bike? It's the same. It's like
who is basically it's a drone copter with a bike strapped to
it. Whoa, boy, that's gonna solve traffic. Are you stupid?
When people really get stupid when that when this kind of
stuff comes Oh, it's an electric plane. And it flies on batteries
at night.
I just know the dumbest thing ever. And by the way, battery
technology is only improved by incremental amounts of battery
technologies. All pretty much 19th century 200 year old
technology that has not been improved upon, except for just
fine tuning a few things getting a new membrane that's
we went we had electric. In fact, the automobile industry
started as electric cars in
there was a lot of electric cars. There was steam cars,
electric cars and gas cars, the gasoline cars one because you
could go further. And they were essentially more reliable. And
you could just put more fuel in and when the batteries went
dead. What
did you do? You're done. If you go back and look at the history
in 1903, I think it was that Fargo maybe 1901 Even that was
the it was the horseless carriage. It was an electric
car. And I think Elon Musk was running and then too. Yeah, he's
an old guy. Totally old guy. And things are not going so well
actually in. In Euro land. We have plenty of bad stuff
happening the the worst thing really outside of Greek, the
Greek public television being turned off. Isn't you know,
they've been trying to sell this. It's so disgusting.
They've been trying to sell as a part of the Troika as demands
some of their assets like the energy company. The was a DEP D
EPA. And these guys are so arrogant that they said Nah, no
one bid on it. 800 I think was 800 million euros. Let me see if
I have the target was originally set at 50 billion euros in 2010.
But it's been reduced. And what were they trying to get for 900
million and no one bid on it. So they're just waiting until this
I guess until someone says like, hey, we'll pay you to take it
and then the Russians come in Gazprom did not bid did not bid
and the thing is it has an actual value it's listed. I
think it's still listed on the on the stock exchange in Greece.
And listen, you wanted the Russians want to get it for a
song.
Well, this is this is the whole remember we we talked about this
is the Hellenic Republic Asset Development Fund. This is the
same way that they when they reunified Germany, that's the
same thing and all the assets are just gonna be sucked up by
the by the weasels. But they really just like, you know, we
got a lock on this thing. No one's coming in. This is our
this is our puppy. We're just going to wait we're going to run
it all the way down to zero. You don't give a crap and no one
sees it. However, I would say there's two big developments
going on right now in the world. And both of them involve the
Chinese and I think we can see some terrorism activity in
Nicaragua. We're pretty soon I think al Qaeda in the Nicaraguan
Peninsula,
that'd be good. That's que en
AQ. And that is because Nicaragua has given the
greenlight to a Chinese company to build a canal. And this will,
of course, compete directly if you go down south a little bit
with the Panama Canal, which is our project, which is, so I'm
thinking and funny enough. I see today a bill was proposed the
Senate Bill 1136, to authorize the extension of preferential
tariff treatment for certain textile goods imported from
Nicaragua. So someone's sucking somebody off. But I would say
the easiest thing is just to say we got some terrorists going on
and what or maybe we let the Chinese build and then and then
we go in.
And it's kind of Yeah, let them build it, you know, that I think
it was either Nicaragua or or Guatemala, it was someplace in
there. That was the original site for the what became the
Panama Canal. But they moved it further south, even though it
was miserable to build it there. Because of some vested
interests, and they the trick that they use, because the
Congress had to decide where they're going to build it, is
they somebody released the stamp, postage stamp, it's a
good story of Guatemala and Nicaragua, wherever this was,
with a volcano going off.
We can't have that
God has volcanoes are blowing up. We can't
really, oh, this is good. Well, we need to look into the history
of that. That's kind of fun. I like that.
It's very fun. So so I'm sure this is the old route or one of
the old routes that was predetermined to be easier to
build on because it was flat and didn't have all these these
issues that they had in Panama was like a big rock
it was and now it's really happening. There's green light
and the Chinese are in
it, how many years? What's the what's the breasts, the years
how many years gonna take
is gonna take I think is not going to be done until 2018. Let
me check
1018, five years. Yeah, it's taken almost 10 years to build a
stupid bridge here in the San Francisco Bay area. It was goes
to the goat island from Oakland.
Let's see the Chinese company HK Nicaragua canal development,
Investment Company Limited is working with the Nicaraguan
government on the canal project, experts say it could be I'm
sorry, 11 years.
So it'd be just the same amount of time.
Except Except short bridge they're building. This is 130
miles of waterway. So $40 billion. But then here's the
next project. I
think this bridge costs more than
I'm sure does. The next project is I think we're also going to
see al Qaeda in Ethiopia, as well, I
think they're already there. Well,
but they're gonna start some terrorist activities, because
and this has to do with this is this is very interesting. This
is Egypt, Ethiopia, and Sudan. Now what did these three
countries have in common?
Egypt, Ethiopia. Are they on the list of the top analysts? list
of places we're going to take over? Well,
I think well, Sudan is for sure. Yeah, no, Ethiopia is not no.
And Egypt Of course, we're already in Egypt remembered when
John McCain after we installed the what's his name? The new
guy, new guy, new guy. We installed the new guy McCain
went there with all the CEOs and all like, yes, my corner office
is over here. And I'm going to build here and Coca Cola.
Everybody's in like, oh, yeah, great. Egypt is rockin we're
here, baby bitches. But Ethiopia seems like they're going to be a
little problematic because they are doing a deal again with our
friends that China's to build a dam. A hydroelectric dam on the
Nile, the Blue Nile. And this is upstream from Egypt. Oh, yeah.
Oh, is right. And so what's his name? Kamal, what's his name?
The Egyptian dude. Morsi is it Marcy?
Yeah. Marcy. So Morsi?
I love Morrissey. Yeah, so Morrissey in Egypt. They're the
mopey guy comes out and says, Don't worry, there won't be a
war over this because no one can afford it. Yeah, okay. If I were
Ethiopian right now, I'd be getting into cave. Because we
got some Hellfires incoming, you will not repeat not be building
no dam that is going to block the water downstream because the
basin will empty out. And you know who's sitting there in
Egypt waiting for this water because we need it for our to
dump our aluminum in or whatever, from whatever we're
going to be our fluoride from the aluminum is American
interest. Yeah, so I'm just predicting put it in the book.
Now he's put he said that for this specific reason. If that
was an announcement, it was like, we're not going to be
spending the money on this war. We can't afford it. But if
America does a
business, that's good. So I just I I think we need in the red
book we need to al Qaeda in the Nicaragua and al Qaeda in the
Ethiopia. Can you put that in the book for me in the book now?
And how about that boss
places you think they're gonna be cropping up?
No, those are the two for for this show. Did you see? I love
this. So chi Department of Homeland Security now admits
that they had a drill planned for Boston with backpack
explosives. I mean, what are the chances, John? Coincidence? I
think Matt, what are the chances?
Ah, how is this possible? Astonishing? Yeah, I'm asking
the same question.
I mean, it's funny because this happened in London with the
bombing on seven, seven, they were doing a drill with the
exact same exact same locations 911 There was a drill taking
place in this way NORAD didn't know what's happening. I mean,
it's it's crazy. I mean, the coincidence that just drives me
nuts. How does it happen?
So the Egyptian Independent reports the expert says the
Ethiopian dam will damage Egypt's water supply. Yeah,
yeah, it'll it'll deplete it to zero.
The grand Renaissance dam be a great harm to Egypt. The grant
already said that Ethiopia had failed to provide sufficient
blueprints and studies to support the project, accusing it
of denying Egypt's historical right to the Nile
now according to see Mike now this is the Chinese right yeah,
the Chinese are going to are bidding on the project or making
trouble Hey Q Hoa is Al Qaeda in the Horn of Africa. Yeah, you
know, seem like I don't like that this is not the disease No,
it hasn't caught on no one people's typically like you
don't know what you're talking about. Dude, it's been around
for eight years now. This is not how it works in the media. Okay,
we have to have al Qaeda in the Ethiopia's that's how Americans
remember things. And then we go Horn of Africa.
Horn of Africa was first born we don't even know what that means.
It was Africa. Come on.
We can't have that Ethiopia because then we can go like but
do
because we've been shown pictures of starving Yeah,
exactly. And then you know what's going to happen? You know
what's
gonna pictures the starving kids. Oh, you get some
distraction
Clooney gets the goal. Yeah, nice. Yeah, that's a good
effect. Clooney gets to go in gets to hug some of those kids
are like skin over bones with flies on their face. Right.
Yeah. And they walk over there. I
that's, that's a great video. Yeah, we did well on that one
that is and we laughing about this, because that's exactly how
it's done. It's exactly how it's done. So sickening. This is
interesting. The company called the Global child dealt dental
fund. And there's a lot of bitching and moaning about
fluoridation of water. And I'm certainly one of those that I am
against it. I'm pretty sure it's a big. It's not really to to
help us with our teeth. I think it should be elective Austin,
Florida, it's their water, we won't drink it. And I hate the
fact that I have to shower with it because it gets into all
kinds of different ways. And the main way the fluoride gets into
the water is it is a byproduct of the aluminium process and
other industrial processes. And I found this someone sent me
this because there's so much pushback. The World Health
Organization has now now supports a new program which has
already been implemented in China, Peru, Thailand, and
Thailand and the United Kingdom. And that is fluoridating the
milk and
then have raw milk but we can have this.
Yeah, that's right. You can't have raw milk but you can have
your fluoridated pasteurized milk is that nuts or
what? Yeah, it's pretty bad.
The Alliance for cat four cavity free future why do people
falling for this
it just the way it works. They got documentation they have
papers. They got papers. I think if you if people are falling out
as you're falling for this, you this one woman is a woman on Fox
it just every time I hear it she grates on me I gotta get the
five on Fox. This woman is a it's just a word. Just as though
you were if you finish reading the Nazi book yet?
No. I'm not done now. Mickey came home, we've been busy.
So anyway, you should read the book. It's actually,
I'm, I'm about the 40% through it. It's just I've had a little
setback, but I'll get there. I mean, it's a great book. I'm
loving it. And actually, I actually brought it up with with
Mickey, I said, you know, every single time it's like, I do what
you do. So imagine we're in the late 30s. Here, we're sitting
around the table in Germany. What are we talking about? How
was your day, honey? What's going on? Anything happening?
Yes, exactly what we'd be doing. And then we'd be saying, Did you
hear about they beat up a bunch of Jews? Yeah, really, really?
They probably deserved and some gays, they probably deserved it.
I mean, I don't mean we didn't think of not Ben is this is the
best we've ever lived. I mean, they were living it up here. And
so some, you know, there's these bullcrap stories. I don't know
why people, this the communists. They're trying to ruin it for
us. I mean, that's the kind of conversation we've been having
yet for sure. So you have this one woman and Dre a ton Taros
who is a fill in she's never on the show the five. But when
Guilfoyle is not there to show off her legs. They got to bring
her in and they don't by the way, show off her legs. In fact,
when Guilfoyle is not there to show off her legs, they stopped
showing off legs because for Dana Perino she
she you don't you don't want you don't want to see her legs? It's
just so she's
just she's what she doesn't she doesn't. So this is
this girl's kind of cute she's only say she's brunette.
She's very she's actually kind of cool with this till you see
her talk and you just see the evil.
Oh, yes, no, I know who this is. Yeah, now she's got a pointy
nose and kind of devilish
the way she commonly talks when she's evaluating the situation
in any situation whatsoever. Screw all your rights screw
humanity and just go with complaining about the Democrats
and and just listen to this idiots
just I just love to know how the left expects us to go after
terrorists and keep us safe. Right? So they're not going to
acknowledge a War on Terror if they don't like drone strikes.
If they don't like enhanced interrogation and now they're
going crazy about the surveillance program. How do
they propose that we go after terror? Apology? True be nice.
intercepts ladders, Trump's flattery
skills and tapestries.
Well shoot should be the first one on the list will be cutting
her hair off off after the war.
That by the way, is a terrible person. very
esoteric joke for people who only really understand what that
is.
You have to be reading this book. Yeah. Then
you know about cutting the hair off of the Culebra tours. I say
that it's horrible. It's horrible. Oh, there's a funny
picture photoshopped of her head on a naked body. That's pretty
funny. No. It's a bad shop job. Let me tell you that. Yeah,
that's just a horrible this. I'm seeing increasingly this whole
balance between security and our civil liberties and our freedoms
and fine, fine. Do as you must say, as you must put yourself
in a freedom cage, right, the Free Speech cage and thank you
whistles away, get the bullhorns out of there and put yourself in
handcuffs while you're at it. And that'll that'll save the day
we'll get to these terrorists that she's so worried about.
They're so many of them that were buildings are collapsing as
we speak.
Well, you know, of course, because of this, all of this
stuff and we were safe. We've been saved, saved from many many
calamities.
She used to work on Capitol Hill hill where she served as the
press secretary to Republican leadership. Okay, she was held
responsible for helping draft and execute the media strategy
for the Republican majority back when she likes he also worked at
CNN is crossfire former Reagan pollster Richard,
whoever she likes to crossing her arms under her boobs for the
picture and pushing them forward is a well known trick.
Is that what she does? Yeah,
I'm just looking at Emma. I know this. I know how this works. The
Andrea 10 Taro show. He's pathetic. All empathy. Sorry.
Good. No one watches. Unfortunately. Unfortunate.
Actually, people still watch Fox. I mean, I think Fox
is the one who's got at least some ratings. Yeah. So uh, Pat
Condell. Who is this guy whose was on Fox? I think it was on
Neil Caputo. Is that we're looking character that used to
be a democratic pollster. And they became a Republican or
independent pollster and he's got like eyeballs that go every
which way and he's got a beard. He's a really crazy looking guy.
And you've seen him. I think it was reintroduced into the scene
by Beck when he was at Fox. Okay. Anyway. Condell has some
interesting numbers. In terms of some polls, polls, polls polling
this been going on recently? And he thinks that there's a huge
and I think there might be right. A huge divide between
idiots like this Tom teros. And the and the public at large that
is being completely ignored by everybody. I would say he
doesn't say this, but I would say it's being ignored by
everybody but Rand Paul, who is exploiting this hole.
Oops, sorry. I want that came from
exploiting the hole in the in the in the donut.
There's no, sir. We're not listening to your conversation.
68% of Americans said they believe the government is this
sort of that cynical that jaded that everything they have taken
what the political class in Washington doesn't understand
that was an article of political Saturday, interviewing some
establishment pollster saying, Oh, the government gets a pass
because security. All of this has conflated your point on the
Saturday thing. The con people are so far away so much further
than the political class. But take that resolution number, let
me tell you the stunning number, some number in that among people
who on the on the brass mucin index classify is mainstream
America, the 65% or so of the country. 69% of them oppose
this. Among the people who are in the political class, the
18 20% 71 are in favor, that is 101 point difference. And yet
everything we hear from Washington is how this okay,
we're seeing a breakdown politically. And you can see it
in the in the alliances, you know, where you have Dianne
Feinstein with Saxby Chambliss, and the canes, all these bills,
oh, this is wonderful, good. The Wall Street Journal writes for
the program, they oppose Obama, the New York Times its favorite
newspaper has been saying I doubt it anymore, saying he's
lost all credibility on this. Did we have a something going
on? And it's now a new political costume? Ah,
so what are your what I'm hearing here is that the the the
propaganda machine is no longer working?
That's what it sounds like it or there's a secondary propaganda
machine or there's or there? Are they the public like they do in
all states where you have oppression, they just don't
believe it anymore. And they're getting very upset. No, I
like this. This is good. This is not very good. The unicorns and
rainbows that Mickey always wants. And I'm told I'm very
happy. I am. And what you and I've talked about this, I do
believe that we are speaking to the majority of minds that just
haven't found this yet.
No, we are, in fact, our opinions. And our
deconstruction, in fact, this show is if you took the public
and everyone listened to it, the majority of people would would
be on our side of the argument. Yes. And the minority would be
these politicals that this crazy woman on fox that we just
ridiculed a minute ago, and all those the so called political
class, because that's what they're involved with. They're a
minority opinion about everything. Oh, we need more
drone strikes. What What kind of a person would come out like
this arrow and say, We drones are great. They're killing
innocent people left and right. No. But I was a sick person to
say
I was talking more about you know, I'm bi curious and people
think that's great. And we'd like Mills, I'm making fun of
them. You're talking about politics. I'm sorry. I was
confused. I got a Facebook message from from one of my
Obama bot friends here in Austin after this whole thing went down
this hole and and you know, what people will say is, you know,
I'm actually not that far off from your views on the show. I
said, Oh, you mean just like no agenda? No, bull crap. Don't
kill people. That's a good, good starting point.
Yeah, now seems like a good starting point.
That's a propagate the formula. Did you do that? If you've done
a Horowitz show? Because I have a question for you.
I did not do it this week, because I had to go pick up
Yeah, I had to go to the airport. Because the
Federal Reserve is doing something weird. I'm surprised
Surprise, surprise. And I have a note here. This is the actually
the Chicago fed. How many jobs do we need every single month in
order to be going to be creating jobs?
We need 150 to break even. Okay, so we have to go over 150
Because it's just a replacement. Sorry, sorry, people dying. Now
it's 150. No,
sorry. I have here in front of me. It's in the shownotes.
You'll get a copy from the Fed front page or their newsletter.
What does the newsletter called? The newsletter it's called the
newsletter. The Federal Reserve has indicated it will maintain
monetary policy accommodation till the labor market has made
substantial improvements. Given that unemployment remains
relatively high a substantial improvement in the labor market
will require well above trend job growth. According to our
analysis, job growth of more than about 80,000 jobs per
month. Would put downward pressure on the unemployment
rate down significantly from 150,000 to 200,000. During the
1980s and 1990s, we expect this trend to fall to around 35,000
jobs per month from 2016 to the remainder of the decade. Do you
know what this is saying? Yeah, that means that people are going
to die faster.
No, it means that the actual number of jobs available that
would affect these numbers because people are out of the
you know, they're off the grid essentially. Yeah. Is going to
drop dramatically. Yes. Meaning there's going to be this going
to be worse than worse in terms of homelessness and bums on the
street and people have to be rounded up and sent to camps.
Yes, maybe there isn't. I'm not gonna go there because I know
it's bullshit, but wow, that's not good.
Isn't that crazy? These estimates rely on several
assumptions notably about future labor force participation and
immigration as participation is nothing but does that mean that
the less people immigrants will come to the country
No, no, I don't think that's it at all.
It says future labor force participation and immigration.
Okay, here
I'm looking at shadow stats and people should check this out
always every once in a while go look there and now we're seeing
the the unemployed the official unemployment rates, the bullcrap
ones the youth three in the US six shows good gains we're
working is going down. We're going down. He's great. We're
all good. We are going to shadow stats one which broke up broke
away in 2009 going in the opposite direction is now headed
to 25% solidly Yeah, so and I think it'll get there as even
the looks of it. It'll get there in one year.
So all they got to do but this is great for the numbers. If
they just lower those numbers, then it'll look like
unemployment goes down.
Yeah, it's like the drug companies lower the number the
number of what you should have for cholesterol and their sales
go up right? Because you got to take more of those pills right?
This doesn't sound very good though. What they're what
they're saying here. No, it
doesn't sound good to me. No, no unless you want riots in the
street. No, no good luck with that.
I think I also saw maybe it was the shadow stats guy and some
other analysis. He's American manufacturing jobs of course you
know, there's a there's a cross he basically had a chart if I
wish I had I'll look forward to put the show notes is a chart of
the manufacturing jobs going down like like off a cliff. But
then on the other side, there's this rocket of almost hockey
stick curve of a line that goes up which is food services.
Yeah. I was listening to a discussion on this the other
day, so new jobs are being created are being created fast
food fast fast food was no should get a job there. You get
his old minimum wage course. There's a Chipotle.
Yeah. You get free food though. If you work there.
When I was in college, I think I had a part time job or a job for
a while at Taco Bell. And yeah, you get free food.
Did you work at Taco Bell? Key I did. Did you did you work at the
window?
No, I was the cook in the back.
Oh, spitting in people's food like Yeah, totally. Really? I'm
betcha it's true to no I
didn't do that I think is rude.
Yeah, okay. Oh, well. Okay, the only things I have left are
let's see. Oh, I have some scare the people without kind of stuff
that see other people will finish with
scaring to pee No, I'm
not going to do that. No, I'm not going to do that because no
no no, no because no on the last show I really messed up. I'll
give you the choice and you call it properly last time do you
want scare the people with crap alkaitis stuff or Touray on TV
want to raise rent? That is that actually I have to say I feel
really bad because he may be right and he's probably right.
It's just the way he says it is just wow.
Kind of divided. No, I
I'll do neither not your right is a tough I'll do neither. I
think it's better. We just leave it there when you're on an
upswing. I want to end on a positive note.
Yes, blow this joint. Yeah. If anything without me involved.
I want to end on a happy note because our producers deserve
that. Thank you all very much for sending.
I got an A beat story. No, you don't need to say Do you ever
miss a school slip. This will make everyone feel great. I'm
warning you
door new tonight. Hey, we need some positive local news in our
lives. A young boy is being honored by his school for not
missing a day in six years.
His name is Brandon mosbacher and he attends Green Acres
Elementary School in Santa Cruz. He wanted to give we wanted to
give him a shout out because jazz, he was not late once never
left early and did not miss a single day of school from
kindergarten through fifth grade. We're talking about six
years. So Brandon, here is your shout out and we weren't the
only ones who wanted to say, nice job. That post was really
popular on our Facebook page this afternoon. And wow,
you must really like that mac and cheese. You clean the plate.
The kid wears a top hat I know.
Yes, everybody that is the media that is talking to an ever
decreasing minority. And some reason they still have all the
money. It's fascinating how it works. I don't know how it
works, I don't know how to do it. Alright, so we will be back
on Sunday with more analysis more deconstruction. Delete
Adobe products from your drive. That's my recommendation. You're
gonna have to deal with the GIMP John. I'm sorry, with the GIMP
and you're gonna have to deal with again, because you just
can't be using this stuff. What do you think of what do you
think the chances are if you try to now that it's all in the
cloud, that your creations are not looked at? Hmm. That it's
speak up. Coming to you from the capital of the drone star
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