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and from Northern Silicon Valley where a what happened to my
filibuster John C. Dvorak. Greg Vaughn buzzkill
you didn't actually watch that. Did you? Yeah. You really you
watch the whole filibuster?
No. Oh, you don't watch the whole thing. You go in and out.
Yeah. Talking now, back and forth. I do have the best flip
of the filibuster.
No. Okay. Hold on a second. All right, what is it?
Paul ends filibuster
actuation that we will obey the constitution that the Fifth
Amendment does apply to all Americans. And there aren't
exceptions. But I thank you very much for the forbearance and I
yield the floor. This president senator
from Illinois there will be order expression. Now there will
be order expressions of approval or disapproval are not permitted
in the Senate.
Right. All right. Okay. Now, we have many European Euro land
Asian and Middle Eastern Australia, in Asia Pacific and
Oceania, Oceania listeners, and I think this needs of Saba few.
I think it needs some explanation. What exactly
happened here? And then I, of course, have a take on this.
What is the film? So I'll explain the the reason why it
happened, I think you need to explain the filibuster itself.
So Rand Paul, had sent a letter to Eric Holder, our highest
judicial official in the land, I guess, in the in government,
because above that, of course, is the Supreme Court. And he
said, and I'm paraphrasing, I have the actual letter here. And
his and holder's response, is it legal, under the kinds of
constitutionally legal for an American to be droned on
American soil? If he's not posing an imminent threat, ie if
he's not like, you know, holding a hand grenade, about to chuck
it towards the White House? And the answer that came back was
not entirely clear enough. So Senator Paul, then, in order to
stop the confirmation of John O Brennan, as CIA director, which
I think that in by itself is a good thing, because John Brennan
is the devil. And once he gets his hands in on the CIA, we're
all in big trouble. But in order to stop that confirmation
process, Rand Paul started the filibuster. Maybe you can
explain what this is, John?
Well, well, filibuster is a Senate, a senator getting hold
of the floor under the circumstances where he can't be
stopped from talking. And as long as he stays standing up,
and keeps talking, he can just stay on the floor as long as he
wants. So he began and which means he's just holding the
Senate hostage, right. So he started yakking away and I think
he went on for about 12 hours with some help because other
people would come in you can tag team right you can you can turn
over yeah you can you can actually tag team in and out if
you can get some guy to get the floor I think has been the other
party
because because you have to have the same wrestling mask and
whatever
the case is that he was could only sustain this and then he
quit after 12 hours and it made it it was kind of like an event
but the joke is of course this was a Senate nobody was there
anyway and because it was a snow day in Washington so they all
took off right and so he ended and it wasn't the day of the
vote I think they were actually take it back my understand is
they may have tried to ramrod the vote through their approval
with the with a small number of people there and so he took over
the whole thing until they you know, he quit and then they
closed the session which will reopen I guess on Monday
Well I am I have a take on this
it's actually a protest move it is different than before used to
be very very popular in the in the 1800s to do this in fact to
the point where the House of Representatives banned banned
the practice in 1840
So the way the mainstream media picked up on this i i I'm not
sure if it was completely by surprise or not I loved how how
it was being downplayed, but I think on purpose that here's
Miss Burnet some color Erin Burnett, but we'd like to call
her Bernard here in Texas, and she decided to really downplay
what the whole thing was about, which of course is about droning
American citizens on American soil. And she decided to bring
in the celebrity and piss angle up front starting at the top of
the hour on a wild situation happened in the US Senate.
Aaron, when he's while there's a lot has never happened before
his wild,
seven hours. And I think we're five or six minutes Now Kate and
Wolf pretty incredible that Rand Paul has been filibustering the
nomination for the new CIA chief. And he's been doing it
for a very serious reason. He says this administration has not
categorically said it will not use drones to kill Americans on
American soil. But one thing that's interesting about this is
seven hours and five minutes and counting and Rand Paul has not
taken a bathroom break. Yes, I know that this thing seems
small. But that, to me seem to be a pretty significant part of
the story. He is
a big part of the story, John, this is a very, very big part of
the story.
Some real he's been he's been sticking with it today. So he is
scheduled to be our guests at the top of the hour.
Now how can we distract people even more from the conversation?
Besides talking about
urine, we'll see if he will come out from that filibuster and
talk to us. And also in tonight's essay, we're going to
be talking about Taylor Swift versus Tina Fey and Amy
Poehler. Perfect. Now that's what I call more Taylor Swift.
That's what I call fantastic. That's how you do it. I've heard
you talk about urination. And then you bring in some
celebrities. Fantastic. So of course, I you know, and I see
this happening. And I'm listening to a lot of the
statements that are being made. And will actually here is kind
of a rundown. That talks about the letter, which from Eric
Holder, which apparently prompted this, this filibuster,
this is broth, talking to broth, broth, which are there on the
CNN is talking to his experts about this particular situation.
Quick, hold on for a second, Chris, because I want to bring
JEFFREY TOOBIN into this conversation. Now, Jeff, if it's
okay, if it's legal for a US drone to kill an American
citizen on foreign soil, whether in Yemen, or Somalia or
Afghanistan, someplace else, what's the difference between
you using a US drone to target an assassination of an American
citizen
on US soil?
Well, it is a different situation, the federal
government has more limited powers under the Constitution
within the United States. But it still has a lot of powers here.
And if you had and national security situation with that
with tremendous urgency along the lines of Pearl Harbor or
911, you could see a situation where the drone, like a fighter
plane, like a very powerful gun could be used in the United
States. Now, this
is very interesting to me. Because the one thing that no
one is discussing, is Posse Comitatus this I have not heard
the phrase I didn't hear at any at any time during the
filibuster, because that is essentially if you read the
holder letter, and these guys will, we'll get to it in this
little back and forth. He specifically states, the
question you've posed is entirely hypothetical, unlikely
to occur, and one we hope no president will ever have to
confront it is possible, I suppose, to imagine an
extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and
appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws
of the United States for the President to authorize the
military to use lethal force within the territory of the
United States. That, to me is the key of this conversation.
And I think Rand Paul is either misguided or perhaps he is
purposely Miss guiding everyone's attention to the
drones, what we're really talking about using military
force boots on the ground in the US to kill someone. Now, whether
that's a drone in the sky, or whether that's an actual
uniformed marine or some other Armed Forces personnel. We have
very specific laws about that is possibly common Titus, is that
that is an act that is not necessarily part of the
Constitution, what part of the Constitution, John, you as a
constitutional scholar would prohibit lethal force by the
military within the territory of the United States?
I think it's in there somewhere. I don't have the Constitution in
front of me. What? Why I don't have the Constitution in front
of me, but as I have our military cannot be used as a
police force. The United States is not there would be a national
government. It's not the way the thing works.
Well, the President here says, for example, artists for by the
way, well, here it is, for example, and his letter he says
the president could conceivably have no choice but to authorize
the military to use such force if necessary, to protect the
homeland. In the circumstances of a catastrophic attack, like
the one suffered on December 7 1941, and September 11 2001.
So what the attorney general is saying is that there are
circumstances where the President could authorize
military force in the homeland. But you're saying that is
constitutionally incorrect
that the structure is set up. So the National Guard is the
operation that that works with inside the the borders. And I
think over the years, and I think what's been overlooked
here, and and you may be overlooking, and I think
everyone's kind of assuming that the National Guard ever since
they've been appropriated by George Bush, to go fight
overseas. It's assumed I think that the National Guard is part
of the is part of the military complex. And the same with the
Army and the Navy and the Air Force and the Marines are when
they're not. So this is enough to us just the whole
redefinition of the way we the whole structure of the country
work. Well,
I'm glad you use that word. Because coming through on the
Federal Register, I've held it now for three shows. This was
February 28 2013. There was a proposed change in the
definition of contingency operation. And I didn't quite
know what to do with it. And now I think I do. DOD, GSA and NASA
are publishing an interim rule amending the FLIR to revise the
definition of contingency operation, in accordance with
the statutory change to the definition made by paragraph B,
section 515 of the National Defense Authorization Act 2012.
Enacted December 31, the definition of contingency
operation was embedded by adding and now it comes a whole bunch
of legal mumbo jumbo, Jumbo, blah, blah, blah, entitled
authority to order Army Reserve, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps
Reserve and Air Force Reserve to active duty to provide
assistance in response to a major disaster or emergency
amends chapter 1209 of title 10, by incorporating new provisions
providing for treatment of an operation as a contingency
operation, when the Secretary of Defense activates reserves under
the terms in response to a governor's request for federal
assistance in response to a major disaster or emergency,
declared by the President. And we've we've looked at these at
this organization, the club of governors that all of us
remember that that legislation came together, there was like
this governor's club that the President put together. So here
it is, you are absolutely right, we now have a change in
definition that a governor can say up, Pres, we got an
emergency here bringing the troops and then all these
reserves can be turned to active personnel on US soil, therefore,
completely illegal. And of course, if it's the Air Force,
then you can be drowned. So it seems like kind of a setup. And
to me, I think Rand Paul is only in it to distract. I think he's
posturing.
Well, I think he's the whole thing if he'd gone for the
record, like, like an American would do in a competitive world,
instead of bailing out at 1239 ever, right? Right. Right. I
would have had a little more respect for this filibuster. But
instead he, you know, claimed he had to take his crap or
something he had to pee had gone Erin Burnett Show. Well, he had
already supposedly peed according to all the experts,
because he had given the floor over to one guy. And that's when
he went, Yeah, yeah. And you ran ran out. And by the way, every
time he kind of went off camera, he seemed to be going to his
nose a lot.
Oh, really? You think he was on the dust? Well, I
mean, it's just like, it wasn't even JC noticed that he says,
you know, this is like, all of a sudden you come back and then
need to be it'd be snipped,
right? Oh, wow. And I'll have you know who you know who
can talk to a lot faster for
you know, who can spot this a mile away is Ms. Mickey, coming
from the Amsterdam nightlife spotted in Alaska. Now the thing
that got me John is uncIe. Spin three, while this was taking
place on C span to the Attorney General was factually being
questioned about this very issue. And he said, although it
took three minutes, he said, No, there is no constitutional
reason that this could ever happen. It was I mean, this is
like only a couple hours into this whole bullcrap thing that
Rand Paul was doing the answer was on the other C span that you
want to hear it. I mean,
ya know, they that was brought up on the floor by I think Ted
Cruz, who was very, very
10 Ted Cruz is and is asking the questions.
Well, that's funny because Ted Cruz then comes waltzing into
the Senate. And he tells this whole story about what the clip
you're gonna play. Ted Cruz, discussed in great detail.
Should we hear what Ted Cruz said first, or do you have that
or not?
No, I don't I didn't bother because I had a lot of these
episodes. You know, these clips are all boring. Because the one
of the problems especially with cruise these other guys, since
it was a filibuster, they all talk like this.
So what was the what was the essence? What was the essence of
what crusius is,
was he asked him a question says it's not appropriate. He asked,
the question is is not appropriate. He wouldn't answer
the question. Oh, wow. And then he said, Then he says, Finally,
the fourth time we asked him, he said, No, finally, well, I guess
we don't have to play the clip thing, because that's exactly
what happened. Yeah, no, he discussed it in detail. So then,
but then I'd like to hear it. I didn't hear it. All I heard was
him telling us
the top drones. In your response to Senator Paul, yesterday, you
suggested there may well be circumstances in which it is
permissible to use drones to target a US citizen on US soil.
I'd like to explore those those circumstances. And in
particular, you pointed to to you pointed to Pearl Harbor, and
911, both of which were extreme military attacks on the
homeland. I want to ask a more specific question. If an
individual is sitting quietly at a cafe in the United States, in
your legal judgment, does the Constitution allow a US citizen
on US soil to be killed by a drone
for sitting in a cafe and having a cup of coffee?
If that individual is not I
love how he's he's such an a hole? Because he understands the
question very well, but like most lawyers, I know he has to,
he has to. And by the way, unfortunately, as a government
legislation endless I start to do this myself. And when my wife
asked me something, I'll be so specific. I'll be like, but you
said specifically this,
oh, that's real pleasant.
It's not pleasant, but I can't help it anymore. Because I'm
trying to understand what people are saying. And I've trained
myself to become an a hole like this holder,
posing an imminent and immediate threat of death or bodily harm.
Does the Constitution allow a drone to kill that individual?
On the basis of what you said, I don't think you can arrest that
person. The person is suspected to be a terrorist, you have
abundant evidence. He's a terrorist. He was involved in
terrorist plots, but at the moment, he's not pointing a
bazooka. Okay, I get it. No, no, I understand that gone. He is
sitting in a cafe. Overseas, the United States government uses
drones to take out individuals when they're walking down a
pathway when they're sitting at a cafe if they're if the
which of course is cruel. I mean, that's just a given.
everyone's okay with that,
if a US citizen on us. So
how's that coffee, Mofo incoming,
posing an immediate threat to life or bodily harm? Does the
Constitution allow a drone to kill that citizen?
I would not think that that would be an appropriate use of
any kind of lethal force. We would deal with that in the way
that we typically deal with a situation like that
I would expect respect yet General Holder, but my question
wasn't about appropriateness or prosecutorial discretion. It was
a simple legal question. Does the Constitution allow a US
citizen on US soil who doesn't pose an imminent threat to be
killed by the US government?
I do not believe that. Again, you have to look at all of the
facts, but on the facts that you have given me this is a
hypothetical. I would not think that in that situation, the use
of a drone or lethal force would be appropriate because my
posture General Holder I have to tell you, I find it remarkable
that in that hypothetical, which is deliberately very simple, you
are unable to give a simple one word, one syllable answer. No. I
think it is unequivocal that if the US government were to use a
drone to take the life of a US citizen on US soil, and that
individual did not pose an imminent threat, that would be a
deprivation of life without Well,
let me process I have not been clear, I said that the use of
lethal force, and I'm not I'm saying drones, guns or whatever
else would not be appropriate in that circumstance. Keep
saying appropriate. My question isn't about propriety. My
question is about whether something is constitutional or
not. As Attorney General you are the chief legal officer of the
United States. Do you have a legal judgment on whether it
would be constitutional to kill a US citizen on US soil in those
circumstances? I
think that this is the first time he's really asked the
question properly it says a person who
has not engaged as you've described like this, the problem
is hypotheticals. But as the part of the way in which you
have described this person sitting at the cafe not doing
anything, imminently the use of lethal force would not be
appropriate would not be something I find it remarkable
that you still will not give an opinion on the
constitutionality. Let
me move on to the next topic, because we translate gone round
and round, let me be clear, translate my appropriate to No,
I
thought I was saying No, all right. No, no,
no. Oh, there it is. And I am glad after
after much gymnastics, I am very glad to hear that it is the
opinion of the Department of Justice, that it would be
unconstitutional to kill a US citizen on US soil if that
individual did not pose an imminent threat. That statement
has not been easily forthcoming. I wish you had given that
statement in response to Senator Paul's letter asking you it. And
I will point out that this week, I will be introducing
legislation in the Senate to make clear that the US
government cannot kill a US citizen on US soil absent an
imminent threat. And I hope based on that representation,
that the department will support that legislation. Well, that's
totally consistent with the letter that I sent to Senator
Paul, I talked about 911 and Pearl Harbor. But those are the
instances where I said it might possibly be considered. But
other than that we will look at we will use our normal law
enforcement authorities in order to resolve situations along
those lines, and then use the normal things that you do when
you try to decide if cops can shoot somebody general holler.
I'd like to
be out which is alive because that's not in his letter. But
you know, so this really, this could have stopped his whole
grandstanding very early on because there is the answer. I
mean, he said he gave the answer. And I'm telling you,
Rand Paul is grandstanding. And I believe that the you know, the
Petraeus is now being railroaded again for the torture. Torture
teams over there in Iraq and Afghanistan. And he's you know,
he's, they call him p four. By the way. I haven't been getting
messages from our insiders. P four is the codename for
Petraeus. And he's being railroaded. And I think that
this is already they're working on 2016. We need to get Petraeus
out of the way. And it is my belief, Rand Paul will be the VP
with Jeb Bush. He's setting himself up for this. And I think
a lot of people particularly in the so called liberty movement,
what you might call it, you're being duped by this guy. This
guy is is full of crap. I'm sorry. It's just, you know, what
we need to determine and I put that in the Red Book. Please do
please do. Jeb Bush and
Ron Paul Rand Rand Paul, I mean, yeah, Rand Rand Ron and
this whole drone thing which of course we've been talking about
for years is now being used it's it's being misused in there and
all attention is being focused on the drone. We're really what
we're talking about is illegal search. From the skies you know,
what is the legality of your privacy? This is really about
privacy and and the Fourth Amendment than anything else,
but you're being distracted and then of course, we heard Oh, the
Alitalia pilot saw a drone he shot drone coming in. You heard
about this? No, tell me. So it was everywhere you Google it is
like Alitalia sees drone on final into JFK.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, right. The airline? Yeah, right. Mostly,
there was a little drone flying around. Well, this is the point
isn't it by 200 feet.
If you if you read the if you read the news, the headlines.
And if you listen to the headlines, oh, drone drone
drone, you're thinking like, Oh, this is a fucking predator
flying around. But of course, I went and I got the actual air
traffic control tapes. And I'd like to propose that this was
something else if it was anything at all.
Uniform heavy, making one zero knots for another three miles,
please. Okay.
With a little drone,
we just saw a little a drone, like I saw flying a pizza.
We saw a drone. Roger, what else did you see that? About 1500.
Now, before I continue, if you have a Predator drone at 1500
feet, you're noticing this, this isn't you know, this is like
this is it would be like a Cessna times three. And you'd be
like, holy crap. You know, these are huge. I mean, you know, this
is not this. The way this is portrayed when you have to make
a very clear distinction what a drone is, I think there's some
douchebag flying around with his quadcopter 1500 feet, maybe a
little too high for that. But there's more evidence that this
was not a predator or a Reaper or something like this and and
also no other pilot could see this
visual our traffic 12 o'clock and two miles 1000 intercede
heavy Boeing 767 landed a parallel wind 310 to two runway
313.
sport as a drone on about a five mile funnel by the trucks that
you're following,
so five miles out from the airport at 1500 feet which is an
estimation by the way by this Alitalia pilot who is not at
1500 feet that there's a drone and now this is being reported
as drone you're gonna be a drone I mean there's no classification
either around the
place 36 to 6939 69 aircraft 1000 If you're right there
aircraft looks like maybe like a small drone aircraft actually.
No, I don't see anything.
So he doesn't see anything. It's just because it was a crow
1368 15 DMA
this guy this guy's 15 miles out break up sorry
and also use caution there was a report of a drone aircraft on
about a five mile funnel 1500 Do you see that aircraft
negatively?
Secure uniform heavy whiskey. Alright, so no one sees it. But
now comes the funny bit because they'll have the now have tower
I believe. And apparently someone has called the Titan now
you don't hear this at all on the Alitalia at no point
describes this drone other than a tiny drone. But now all of a
sudden the tower has a description of it. Which by the
way the aircraft still can't see and then even joking about it
now.
Do you see any other aircraft out there?
One on the runway.
Which better get out of the way because I'm coming in here comes
somebody says Call me when you get a chance because he's like,
Dude, you're not on board with the program. By the way, when
the tower says Call me when he when you get a chance. You're
always in trouble. You're always you know, like why would you
mind coming up after you land and come and see me here in the
tower going green your ass
aircraft on the runway?
Yeah, exactly. Like dude, that's not that was not the answer
about
20 minutes 20 minutes ago on a drone aircraft. Or propellers
apparently. On about a six, five to six mile final
propellers.
Yeah, so four propellers means it was a quadcopter not four
propellers like as being like it's a huge Reaper, which
doesn't even have four.
No, it's got one little, little quadcopter
that's what this is. But all of a sudden now he has a
description of it. And where'd that come from? Not from
Alitalia not not the recordings that I have. So this whole I
mean, whereas we were very early on way up to speed and ahead of
the curve. The real here's just the final thing on these drones
you have to understand that you are not going to be drones by
reapers and you know Hellfire shooting off of predators. Yes,
there's, you know, the blimps are up there. They're listening
to you. Yes. Department of Homeland Security specified as
now released by Epic that they wanted their drones to be
equipped in order to see if someone is armed. And to track
communications like dub big surprise. No, no, it is the
micro drones that can swarm. That's what you got to be
worried about and not from the United States. This is I don't
understand why this conversation isn't taking place. But if it's
so easy to fly drones and get your quadcopters up it can be
done by anyone corporations will be running the drones not
countries and the government wants to get you they'll get you
they'll want to kill you they're not going to drone you it's just
you know this poison you throw you in the hot tub. It's much
easier much cheaper, no hassle, no airline pilots talking about
it. Get a little flu virus, you know, make people sick. You
know, this is this drone thing is overplayed. It is it is now
it's become a distraction. And Randy is totally distracted.
I will I do go to the to the syllabus because there was one
comment by Ted Cruz that I think kind of was the funniest comment
also summarize the whole thing and I think you don't if you
listen to this, you don't have to listen to anything else.
It is ironic that a Nobel Peace Prize Winner won't guarantee
that he won't use drones against Americans.
Well, in fact, that is that is specifically not true.
I liked his Ted Cruz though
Yeah, now he you know he all he them your senator? Is he from
chaos? Yes, he's
the senator from Texas.
Well, it's interesting because right after that he he laid into
holder about Fast and Furious. That's that's a lot shorter if
you want to hear that because he followed on right from there
went into fast and furious and I think he caught holder in this
one.
I have a catch two that somebody else pulled. Alright, so here,
Arnie,
here he is. Here he is talking about Fast and Furious, and that
the White House declared executive privilege in the
communications between the Department of Justice and the
White House, if they had any knowledge, and here's where he
does his lawyer bit. And they will point that out
just on the Fast and Furious program and the tragic
consequences of that. Was the White House involved in any way
whatsoever in decision making concerning Fast and Furious? No?
Okay, that's very clear, not involved into discussions on
Fast and Furious. But now let's backpedal a little bit.
Given that last year, my understanding is you asserted
executive privilege against handing over documents
concerning Fast and Furious now, executive privilege, the Supreme
Court has made clear, protects communications and advice with
the President, if the White House was not involved,
executive privilege does not apply to those documents. If
executive privilege applies to those documents, it necessarily
implies that the White House and the President personally was
involved. So which of the two is it General Holder?
No, you're cutting to fine line, the president the White House
was not involved in the operational component
of the operational component. Ah, okay. Now I understand.
In other words, Raymond, let me get this straight. So in other
words, Obama himself was not handing guns. That's the
that's not the operational components, certainly,
interactions, conversations between the Justice Department
and the White House, about the the operation after all of the
operative facts had occurred, after all,
after all the operative facts that occurred, flees
controversy, controversial actions had been taken. When
then we got into the situation where we were talking about the
Congressional investigation of Fast and Furious. There were
communications between the White House and the justice. So but
nothing could it do I understand you correctly, my
time has expired. So I want to just understand your response,
correct. Cause your position that exact executive privilege
only applies after the details of Fast and Furious became
public, and it was with subsequent communications. But
there is no executive privilege that is applicable before it
becoming public. Because as you just said a minute ago, the
White House was not involved in any way, shape, or form with
fast and furious.
I think Cruz is a lawyer too, by the way, but he's a really good
one. He's slick. So he just laid some Smackdown here and holder,
I think messes it up.
Privilege protects communications between the White
House and the the executive branch agency. And to my
knowledge, there are
Oh, to my knowledge, that deal
with the operational components of Fast and Furious between the
White House and the Justice Department. So executive
privilege does not apply to them. There's nothing there for
executive privilege to apply to. As best I know, as best I
know, to my knowledge, Tonya resigned dude,
you gotta get out now. He should get time I was born in Canada,
Canadian run for the office of president and he from Calgary.
As a matter of fact, that world of money is and he will be went
to Harvard and then Harvard Law School and Princeton.
Oh, there you go. He's He's, he's an elite. So so. So he has
his own agenda. He has his own guys.
Believe me. Apparently, it doesn't include holder holders.
Not on
this not batting for the same team. But But I really I want to
stress I know I get a lot of hate mail when I say this, but I
want to stress Rampaul eyes may not be your friend. Let's not
forget he endorsed Mitt Romney.
Come on, actually, over his own father.
Yes. So I haven't forgotten that. You know, and this is just
this is just this is what you do. This is the big show. This
is the big big show. That's that's all that it is a big,
big, big, big show.
But we've had nothing but a big show but I think there's an
interesting sound kind of a big show aspect of the of this
current economic situation. Here's here's a You mean the
sequestration? Yeah, or actually everyone here placed no gag so
we can get this one little gag out of the way. Okay, I
have a couple of sequestration gags.
First came snowpocalypse then Snowmageddon and now just a few
years later, perhaps the worst storm DC has ever seen in March.
No question.
It is a major snowstorm hitting our area.
It's no no question. By the way, as far as I know, did not catch
on
the snow question. No, no, no, I but I caught a drunk Diane
Sawyer. Oh, I
got a drunk one for you, too. Okay, so
here's here's drunk, Diane. And so you know, this this the
secret the Ryan Seacrest stration is being used for many
different things, one to scare the American public. It's mainly
for political advantage. But the Obamas they really have taken it
to the next level as drunk. Diane explains.
And we have another change from Washington tonight sure to
provoke a big reaction. It is day two after the big budget
cuts and the White House says they are going to save money by
canceling White House tours.
We regret to inform that White House tours will be cancelled
effective Saturday, March 9 2013. Until further notice,
the White House says they no longer have the staff to
supervise the tours, Justice spring break with a tidal wave
of tourists draws near.
So this is literally like,
this is the family that did have like 50 Christmas trees in the
White House. Yes.
This is exactly like Hey, I got a great idea. Hi, everybody. How
you doing White House meeting? I got a great idea. Let's get
these I hate to hate it when the slaves come through my house. I
know. We'll tell them we can't do any more tours because of the
secret stration Yeah, I think they literally is it literally
is one of the aihole move. And what does it cost to get a
couple interns to run people through other people's house?
But no, no, no, let's get tired. These shitter some slaves
walking around here. Let's just put it on the voicemail. Like
the answering machine,
make a virtual tour. You guys
are on the website. And then and this was the best ABC can you
know they they of course have been talking about you know the
American economy vaporizing due to these cuts in increases in
money. Of course nothing's really happening. Oh, yes. I'm
sorry. The stock market is above 14,000. It's going crazy to
record and so how are they going to explain this? Well, George
Stephanopoulos Hello Scott his girls, but beyond the investors
seem to be Bianna is her name by the way. Jana, Jana. Hi, B. I
mean, I just had a girl What's your name? Bianna. Okay.
But But beyond the investors seem to be shrugging off any
economic impact from the stalemate in Washington, those
across the board spending cuts. Yeah, isn't
that kind of sad. It was basically, it's kind of sad,
sad, sad
analysts. This is beyond the subpoena, that we're
going to have the spending cuts. And as you saw for the beginning
of the year, when in anticipation of the fiscal
cliff, you saw a lot of CEOs really rallying to Washington
politicians ask them to come up with some sort of result. He
didn't really see that now. You're not seeing a huge effect
on the economy. Economists are saying that we could have some
sort of impact that could slow economic growth, but not really
bring us into another recession,
though. Not really anything basically. It's so sad because
you know, we did our bit and it didn't happen and all
this bull crap. Nothing happened. Nothing
happened. We didn't get any
canceled tours of the White House. Closed a couple nights
they closed the national park up in Olympia. Washington. Oh,
really?
They closed the poll. Well, that's just that's just so they
want to holiday. That's lame. Really? Yeah. I can't believe
they did that. And and then I have to, I have to bring up a
touchy subject. You know, I typically I'm always enamored by
your advice, except on the topic of gold. I usually ignore
ignore, ignore your advice. And I also ignored your advice on
selling my Bitcoins.
Oh, well, that was probably a dough actually sell them. You
can't sell them. That's the problem. Well,
this is what I want to bring up. So I held on to and I don't have
300 I have 143 Bitcoins. And we talked about this when it hit 33
which was a clear mark. And as of today, now they soared up
past 48 Looks like they've dropped down a little bit. We're
now around Let me see. 43 So maybe we've hit the peak. But
let me interject. No, no, no, no, no, let me finish my my got
my comment. I'm very worried very, very worried about this
because I wanted to cash them in. I'm like, All right word 48.
I'm gonna go cash them in. So guess what? The only way you can
really cash it in And is if you do a private sale with someone
who you trust, because all these other places, yeah, oh yeah. No,
you can sell through through PayPal and we'll send you the
money on paypal. But if it's not a scam, and a lot of them I
think are then it says, Oh, well we only have limited funds you
can only sell two to two Bitcoins. So I'm like, Ah, all
right, I got all these Bitcoins and I'm like, Oh, the Bitcoin
store.com open. The store sucks. I'm like, Oh, I'll buy I'll buy
a tablet is no tablets, and no iPhones. No candy.
I can't buy Oh, we should cancel our Bitcoin initiative. I just
don't I want
to because I'm worried that I'm holding on to it because who
knows? I would. It would be lovely. But until my landlady
accepts Bitcoin, I can't do this. Because I need money. I
need money now that I can give to my landlady and give to he be
right he be hit him.
You don't know what he is? No, baby. You've never been to
Texas. What's heb that's our supermarket.
Oh HEB. So, and I can't
even give them why if I could give them away at the farmers
market. If I could give them bitcoins I do that. And then you
know, and all of a sudden we got like, you know, we I think we
got a little over 10 Bitcoin. That was your challenge. And we
went past the 10. Mark.
Yeah, yeah, I just wasted our time.
Well, well, we have the money, but we can't please we don't
have the money. That's the point. We haven't exactly we
have Bitcoin. So please get a bitcoin address. So I can send
you your share. And good luck, because we can't I can't. Yeah,
I mean, by WordPress,
why would anybody cash them in and we'll put it in the bank.
You can't cash
them in. But what good are they this is the point is like I've
had people offer privately and since there are no agenda
listeners, I trust them. But you know, that's not this is not
this is not good. It will take a long time when if we all move
that way. I'm all for it. But right now, I can't risk it. I
can't allow it. I can't risk it. I personally, you may be able
to. I cannot risk that we get a lot of money.
I don't want bitcoins I need money in the bank should be in a
bank account. Yes.
I mean, I'm so worried that we're money we're gonna get all
of these
like buying stocks or something. That's great. So a broker goes
to a client he says gotta get some Dynamo. Dynamo Corp is
unbelievable. It's a penny a share. Buy as much.
By the way, by the way, just with people in the chat room
gold is different. There's there's a liquid market in gold.
I can go anywhere and sell gold. Why would
anybody equate bitcoins the gold? You can let me tell my
joke. Yeah, Guy says Penny shares fell by $10,000 Was it
calls him back the next day. So that sucks up to a dime. So you
already made 10 times already well budget by another $10,000
worth you buy some more. Then it calls them back next week
average the stock as a buck says Holy crap, just beer. Here's
another 10 grand buy more. And then he calls him back the next
week says the stock is now at 100 he says okay, bye take all
my money and buy more die in a dynamo. IT guy a week there's as
the stock is at $1,000 a share. And the guy says, okay, sell it.
And the broker says to who?
Exactly. Exactly. And the chat room is going they're calling me
a fucking idiot now. But you know what? I disagree. You even
communicating with this nut botellas chat room that one of
those those bonehead should buy the bitcoins from you in cash,
cash money, and you're you'll be done with it. And then they can
call you an idiot all they want.
Yeah. Well, I've had a couple people offer
cheap when it comes to this stuff. Yeah.
No, I mean, it's a great virtual. It's great for virtual
stuff, right? Because, because what is the actual cost of a
WordPress account? Right?
What is the actual cost of it? So you just about what the
Bitcoins worth?
Yeah. So, you know, when people do something, and you know, I
mean, we so there's a, there's a finite universe of Bitcoins,
what's great about the Bitcoin concept is you can go you know,
16 behind the decimal so, you can expand this money supply in
a in a different way, just based upon the value
is any of this good? Well,
let me let me let me finish my my thoughts on just explained it
to me. So in the virtual world, where I need, you know, some
hosting, someone else wants some porn, you know, there's all
these different things. It kind of works it's just a barter
system. It's it's a peg for a barter system, and I'm totally
okay with that. Because we could also say, Hey, you give me some
hosting, I'll give you this, you know, but if you put a value on
it, you got a number and That's okay. I think a lot of people
who who have the Bitcoins either earn them that way. I don't
think a lot of people took money from their bank account and
bought Bitcoins. I don't think so. I'm not sure. But I think
there's a lot of bartering. So it's a great online bartering
measure. But for what I do, I don't need stuff from online I
need my house. And if and until my landlady sees that, you know,
the Bitcoin I would give her for the rent can be used for
whatever she needs. And we, I mean, it could happen, but
please stop with this. Like, you know, idiocy, it's just it's
going to make me it's going to put me in the poor house if we
start accepting bitcoin for this show. This is what I live on.
And you Mt Gox and all this stuff. My Account got hacked on
Mt. Gox. My password was passed out everywhere. You can't trust
any of this crap. What's empty Doc's? Mt. Gox is the is the
exchange. Mt Gox MTG o x.com. And you know and everyone's
like, Oh, yeah, I'll buy 100 from you. Yeah, but okay.
Now send me a check.
Yeah, and the Pay Pal scam works like this. Alright, send me the
Bitcoin they send you the Pay Pal and the next day they say to
PayPal reverse that I didn't get what he promised me and then
write and paper with colors in the back you know they're not
going to back you up. But people believe me I got I got like a
huge amount of money in dollars in Bitcoin. I can't exchange it
anywhere I can do to,
to love the to
to add a bit pay and bit and bit to what was the
is it to a day to a month to a year to forever was all
they had right now period. It's like, oh, it just says the you
know, I'm like, Alright, let's get rid of half of them. Like 50
Bitcoin and by the way, I got these when the Bitcoin was, you
know, a buck. So, you know, I don't feel rich, because I can't
do anything with this money, except buy lots of hosting. And
I looked at like made by Miss Mickey, a great monitor for her,
you know, for photography, the Bitcoin stores, the shitty
monitors, other than the one she wants? I don't know. I have also
gotten some people from three letter agencies telling me that
there's something else something else up bad. I don't know about
that. Maybe they're just dis informing me to keep me away
from it. So I'm all for it. I'm all for alternative currency,
but not. I know you're not and I'm a little more on your side
only because of a practical reason that I can't spend it
except on crap that I don't need. And then it's like, oh,
you're not part of the community. Well, the community
please pay my rent. Oh, actually, the community does pay
my rent. That's kind of cool. But I need it and
this reminds me of beans. Do you remember that? Yes. The beans
what? Beans, b e b e. Oh, yeah, there
was another one. That means was the Whoopi Goldberg one with The
Goldbergs. And
let's see. Let's check out beans here@beans.com. I do remember
this. It was the same problem. online currency performing
activities visiting shopping online, or logging on through an
Internet service
provider was ludicrous to me is this is like going not that I
would know, but just like going to a strip joint. And you'd go
by their money to give to the girls and then they have to cash
it in and they get screwed in the deal. As opposed to you just
give the girls the dollar
flus was the other one flus that's it flus flus Let me see
your flus.com still exist. Let's see. flus.com Let's see how that
worked out. Beans
management team raised $100 million from venture capitalists
including this is the kind of thing going on. Larry Ellison of
Oracle France who opt to know of PPR Vivendi Universal brought
the hell were they thinking
well so this of course, this has nothing I think what's happening
here is because apparently no one owns it and there's a finite
number etc. That's why people believe in it. But I think
that's a mistake. So beans has changed into Welcome to beans
the innovative multi channel reward program.
Oh green S and H green stamps check that one out people.
So let's do those do some predictions then what what is
going to happen to the big going
to kind of become worthless a collector's item as a coin, the
ones that are available the actual coins. Because there are
coins out there. Those will be collectible and probably be
worth about $10 as collectible coins. That's my prediction.
$10
Yeah, I think there'll be worth less than a challenge coin from
the no agenda show.
Now you're talking, that's for sure. Yeah, interesting. Well,
there's a lot of hatred. When when you question this. You're
an idiot. You don't get it. You don't understand free market
economics. Like what? You know, you're dumb.
You don't understand free market economics. That's a classic. Oh,
you want to hear some comments?
Yeah, yeah. Read the comments. This is the kind of people that
we have in the chat room for people out there who need to be
forewarned.
And people don't believe me. Like Adam says he can't sell
him. That's bullshit. It's not. Why would I lie about that? Why
would I lie about it? I tried. I tried four different exchanges.
One says, Hey, give us your bank credentials. And we'll log in
for you. And you know, to verify your account so we can put it
Yeah, right. I'm going to do that. That's a great idea. No,
yeah.
Is that is that exchange in Nigeria? Perhaps this was
one that was that's recommended on the Bitcoin wiki pedia site?
The top one actually All right, here's some. Here's just some
random 21 comments actually. Okay. Um, here's number one. Is
there any currency curry won't grovel for Okay, that's a good
one.
There you go. People donated those bitcoins when they were an
unproven experiment and practically worthless. Then you
had the June 2011 bubble and subsequent crash that was when
the Bitcoin community needed you the most. Instead, you and
Dvorak proceeded to discuss the independent currency every time
you got the chance to mention it. Bitcoin has been slowly
regaining confidence throughout 2012. But not thanks to you. You
can't expect Bitcoiners This is now people in a Bitcoiners to
suddenly part with their BTC, especially knowing their upside
potential. This sounds like a pump and dump. Having said that
hitting you do have a healthy stash of Bitcoins, if you
believe there's even a small chance that Bitcoin will become
a significant player in the currency commodity market than
the potential for price appreciation is mind blowing. A
good strategy I've heard is to how to cash out 10% of your
stash every time the price doubles, I'd like to that way
you'll never run out of BTC. And at the same time, you won't feel
bad if one day the whole thing comes crumbling down. At least
you got something out of it. Now it's just let me see what else
that's amazing.
You have a problem with people sharing common interests forming
communities. Bitcoins like Facebook. Yeah, I'll donate BTC.
Once you've shown some understanding of the underlying
principles, I suggest you start by figuring out the meaning of
salted password hashes. Okay, so what are the underlying
principles that have Bitcoin lives at home? And what are the
underlying principles of Bitcoin? What is that? What is
the underlying
the challenge coin, there's, there's a limited number
manufactured, they're giving it given an arbitrary value and now
they're on the open market. That's the underlying principles
is nothing more than a collectible. I mean, it's not
not a species people don't accept it, buy it for for
exchange on any international exchange, I can't exchange
Bitcoins for Chinese Wan or Japanese yen or even the dollar
or your nickname. Okay,
here is here's what I'm gonna do. I have an idea. I am going
to divest and this is you can you can check this by the way
there's like you if you do bitcoin address, you can see
exactly how much Bitcoin someone has, which is so much for
privacy. If you publish your bitcoin address, then people can
see how much Bitcoin you have and I guess go and kill me for
them. Seriously, if you go to Bitcoin, Blockchain dot info,
and you fill in the address that we used, you can see how many
transactions total received final balance. So this is great.
This is fantastic. So I actually published this it's associated
with me and now people will come in here try and find a laptop
that it's on cut my throat for the Bitcoin This is horrible.
With the privacy in this is terrible. So this is really
bullish,
by the way to that one commenter who said that, you know, when
the Bitcoin people needed your help, hey, we're, we're a
podcast people, whatever we say has zero influence on any market
whatsoever. Who are you kidding? You're
not a bit coiner John, okay, so here's what I'm going to do. I
will sell all of my bitcoins and the price is $50 per Bitcoin,
so you're going about the wrong way.
No I'm not. If everyone is so if it was such a believer it's a
good deal because it's going to triple quadruple. Yeah, so me so
what's wrong about that? What am I supposed to do?
Dump it for 35 bucks a coin get rid of it no one's gonna take
that deal you dirty five bucks under under market value by a
lot do you think I can move the market all the coins and you'll
be in business you
think I can move the market?
You're not gonna move it No, there's a 21 million Bitcoins I
believe you're gonna move anything nobody if
so it all these people who are so big on Bitcoin why don't they
just step up and
full of crap you and you haven't figured this out? No, this is
what I buy any coins from you this is what I want to do sit in
the chat room and carp
this is this is what I want to prove. If you really believe in
it, buy it from me for 50 bucks otherwise you're full of crap
in the open market cheaper what kind of thinking is this? This
it's a dump bum All right, I'm done
with the Bitcoin let's talk about let's talk about real
money.
No, you're not dumping because no one's gonna know okay,
I'm done. I'm done talking about is what I said let's talk about
real money money that I can give to my landlady lovely Joyce's
her name
All right, well we have four executive producers in nice are
about to try to executive producers and three actually
sorry and to associates and let me tell you who they are they
came in this week for show 493 Sir gear torque good Haagen who
is one of our nights he's in Taipei I didn't know that. So
anyway, he gave us $500 For the 500 anniversary he's adding it
up to so it's up to 700 for his daughter's name hood the entire
family or soon nights except the wife and apparently the wife
thinks the two of us are morons. And that's obviously
Who is she in the chat room Why does Leo have such a highly
regarded chat room and we
have very stringent rules you start pulling that crap did this
chat room the IP addresses or coffee get back in oh man, very
strict very very strict. Very good. You have a bunch of
communists in ours Oh man,
this is gonna be so much hate and by the way, you'll get none
of it. You're the most anti Bitcoin person I know. And yet I
get I get all the crap just for being honest and like not buying
into the bullshit like everybody does. I'm all for people will
take sticks whatever it and by the way, this doesn't mean I
believe the dollar is so fantastic. As we all know how
that works. You know that's another thing people confuse me
with someone who cares about the dollar they go you love fiat
money.
Okay, sir Dwayne melon song in Thai guard, Oregon, or as I like
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we do a special page right?
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the knights from the air. Right? We're gonna be wearing
tape pens and a brown shirt with an armband. You'd be perfect.
Yeah, perfect. Meeting and let us know what you decide. You bet
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Big ITM for you. Thank you so much, sir. Wait, so it's sir
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Yeah, beautiful. Well, I'm very concerned about our donations
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It's been over a year since I first started listening to the
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Well, more Adam as John seems to show up on a Sunday and Thursday
to wing it. Smiley face. I think we Yeah, I do. Your media
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through though my paranoia has increased tenfold since starting
to listen Give yourself some karma for the upcoming show. 500
I'll take a Dr. Kiki one hell hot milk and a, I guess a karma
for us. Many thanks.
All right. We go up already. Science has been hot now baby.
You've got karma. Thank you so much, Phil. Very nice love that
31313 are big episode 500 falls on the 31st of March 2013 31313
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So and it said so we have a newsletter. So that is reflected
in the divorce.org/and then a page along with the Bitcoin
number which brings us to Adam Levine who sent us or you like
to your account, which we have to close. I donated five,
can you actually close it? Can you close that? Can you destroy
your number?
I don't know what you have to do something. The problem is we
Well, I'll tell you some other time. But anyway, he donated
5.00000033 Bitcoins, which are worth 4497
I'm sorry, no longer, they're now worth the 42. So you're now
you were down.
May had to recalculate him and drop them from the exit. So
he squeaks into 210. Okay.
Anyway, thanks for Thanks for accepting Bitcoins. I'd like
karma for my family and a vote for keeping the donation segment
as short as possible. Yeah, well
certainly give you a karma for the family. Absolutely. You've
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And finally, Judy Schwartz in the pleasant town of burn Texas,
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And a couple of PR mentions to make first of all our drone
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and said you know, these are the two top podcasts this week in
tech. Leo Laporte completely independent his shows are better
than what they were on Tech TV. And then second it was in the no
no agenda show where Adam and John Do not take advertising
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about we'll see water filtration systems
prepper stuff going
borac.org/n A Now of course if you are broke don't send this
Bitcoin just go out and propagate the formula. Our
formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth
right slaves. Hey, so I'm looking@flus.com and the wiki is
gone, right this parking site. Yeah, it was says in
2001 flus.com was notified by the was notified by the FBI that
a Russian organized crime syndicate was using flues and
stolen credit card numbers as part of a money laundering
scheme. In which the credit cards were used to purchase
currency and then redeemed,
right? Yeah. Oh, that's gonna I'm sure that will happen with
Bitcoin.
Yeah, money launderers are always looking for a good idea.
Yeah. Well, since we're talking about money laundering, money
laundering, I do want to play this one here, which is a quiz
for you. And there's two versions. There's one that
confirms one way or the other, but the one that has the word
one in it, which is drunk or not drunk this is Newt Gingrich tell
you this is a quiz for you. Is he drunk or not drunk?
Okay, I'm playing one. Yeah, one okay. Newt Gingrich drunk or not
drunk. Good to be with you thoughts watching? filibuster.
It's been a while since we've seen this.
I'm really proud of Rand Paul, at what I'm proud of him for
standing up for the rights of Americans in the Constitution.
I'm proud of him pushing the Senate and actually having a
genuine filibuster, which is the right of a senator. And I'm
proud of him for getting all of us as you are tonight. To pay
some attention. This is a serious question. We've evolved
into a world where the President knighted states basically signs
off on killing people all us on a remarkable frequency.
Okay, now he had more like a weed smokers coffin that like
he had a cough that I think it was a belch. And then he went
Vuv. He said, like something go move. Yeah. And then he said,
basically, but we don't know.
Basically, I'm going to say, I'm going to say Newt Gingrich
hammered. Okay, well play part to him. This will confirm or
deny
and historic and raising constitutional issues of the
country. And I commend him for this level of leadership. And as
you as you said, he's beginning to graduate attract a bipartisan
group. I believe
so Rand Paul was late Rand Paul was coked out and new green
Gingrich was hammered drunk. Oh,
actually, there's a bunch of guys hammered drunk cuz there
were a lot of them. I was actually impressed by the guys
who didn't get drunk as many of them came over from the from
some nearby hotel after a dinner with Obama. Right. And I guess
they were holding it in.
Well, you know that that's all we're gonna do. You know, you're
this damn
it. I can't imagine being there not being just plastered all the
time. Even night.
In fact, you're drunk right now, aren't you?
I wish. So let's see. Let's try. Here's another way that this is
an interesting clip as far as I just want to hurt us. Is this
guy really? Right. Is he saying this? plake This is Carney any
stammering and when he starts to stammer, he blurts things out.
And to me, I interpreted this a certain way.
So Carney of course for those of you living outside or even
inside America, who can't identify the state of Texas,
Carney is the spokes hole for the wet the White House,
you know, our interest is not in you know, as long as these goals
are met, that we do not go headlong into another
manufactured crisis. You know, we are focused on trying to find
common sense solutions to the challenges that face us.
Did he just say manufactured crisis?
Did he just say manufactured crisis? Yes. Why did he say
that?
Because it's a manufactured crisis.
Exactly. Wow. I when I heard this is he admitting that these
book and it's another as though there's been many,
many here to get, you know, our interest is not in you know, as
long as these goals are met, that that we do not go headlong
into another manufactured crisis. We are focused on trying
to find a common sense solutions to the challenges that face As
you know, and another thing that I'm really sick and tired of
common sense, common sense. It's a common sense. It's common
sense. Now, where do we know? I know but perhaps we should ask
you as a general historian, where the term common sense
comes from,
you know, the Kemp's from I think the common people or
something that sends
the message no, this was a book.
All right, common sense. It was a book is very famous book was
in the 1800s. Was it
not Thomas Paine, I think, who wrote the common sense? Oh,
let's see yeah, period is from the Hold on a second, I show
those into 70. Common sense a pamphlet written by Thomas Paine
first published anonymously on January 10 1776. At the
beginning of the American Revolution, common sense was
signed written by an Englishman, and it became an immediate
success. Having sold almost 100,000 copies in 1776, and
relative proportion to the population of the colonies at
that time, it had the largest sale in circulation of any book
in American history, common sense presented the American
colonists with an argument for freedom from British rule. At a
time when the question of seeking independence was still
undecided. Paine wrote and reasoned in a style that common
people understood slaves, foregoing the philosophical and
Latin references used by the Enlightenment era. In other
words, when the President or his spokes, I'll talk about common
sense, that means we're dumbing it down for you stupid slaves to
understand. Don't you think? Oh, I
think there's a good argument to be made. If you play that, the
beginning of that corny clip again, by the way, I think I
would urge you to do this. This is one of those. Well, the
central question is, you have to read the book, you know, kind of
thing. Yeah, he says something as an intro, and then says
something else. And it's like a total non sequitur, just don't
get to the part about the manufactured crisis, just play
that first part, and then him kind of mumbling to himself. And
then the second part, but,
you know, our interest is not in you know, as long as these goals
are met, that are you do not is not
in, hold on, let's
go back and just go back again, this is pretty good, actually.
But, you know, our interest is not in
telling you the truth. You know,
as long as these goals are met,
what the what we want,
we do not go headlong into another manufactured crisis, you
know, we are focused on trying to find a common sense solutions
to the challenges that face us.
This just is amazing to live as you really start to parse this
character. He's just always doing stuff like
to do this if you do a Google search on the term common sense,
right? Besides Common Sense Media, and maybe just hit news.
And then you just see it's all like, common sense. Common
sense. Common Sense. FTC common sense, common sense in this
common sense in that politics this week caucus? Oh, a caucus
of common sense. Ooh, caucus of common sense.
It's a caucus a common sense. Let's
see. Let's see politics this week. This is 45 minutes ago,
again, the common sense where every single time you use common
sense, an angel gets peed upon. Let's see. Let me find the term
comments.
Obama appeals to caucus of common sense to stop sequester,
the caucus of common sense. I want to be a part of that.
Because the other word cropping up as the charm offensive. Okay,
that's also an oldie but a goodie. I have too many M's
here. That's why I'm not finding God. There's so many ads on the
stupid Web. Can I use my bitcoin to buy them away? Yeah, you
wish.
In America, the deadline passed for avoiding the sequester have
severe cuts to spending, Barack Obama met Republicans to try to
secure a deal on the deficit and said he would strive to find a
caucus of common sense. The President said he would try and
find So the President is trying to find
the caucus. Is that the deal of common sense? What is the need,
just do something, you know, like take action is trying to
find the caucus.
Because it's more fun. It's like an Easter egg hunt. It was good.
Nothing to do. It's like you got no visitors at the White House
because it's all closed. He's all lonely.
Dinner was last night. It says right here on the hill. He's
trying to build the idea of a common sense caucus. That's
where he had this dinner. It was a dinner. And for some reason,
in a hotel,
they sort of Koco van at the common sense caucus.
And they never gave it the menu. They should give out the menus
to these things. The public has a right to know there's a
picture
from last year.
We need a foodie that takes pictures of his food. Well,
you know, the White House has the Flickr stream and I got hash
if I could find it it's somewhere last year if you
Google Obama Pelosi Reid and what's the the other Mitch
McConnell Santa sub sandwiches? So it's them like having a
caucus of common sense. But they've got like $300 worth of
sub sandwiches like footlongs they've got cookies the size of
hubcaps they've all got their individual little T is
unbelievable I mean, and they think that that's like common
folk I mean, seriously, you got to do this. Alright, got a fun
thing find a Flickr if you do you do so you do. Flickr? Flickr
clicker Obama Pelosi sub sandwiches sub sandwich that's
how you'll find it. And then you do images you're going to see
this picture it's going to freak you out. I found that already
number three on that Google here it is. Oh, yeah, look at look at
you see the cookies that like hubcaps and then look at look at
that.
You have the picture where Obama is is telling me
he's he's 40 he's she's squeezing a fart out
oh that that we I got that one I'm thinking is where she's He's
telling Pelosi don't know I've had enough which just looks like
a different event.
No, I don't have that one. Okay, but you see the one where with
the with the sub sandwiches look like stacked three high.
And this is there a bunch? This is one of those elites bag
lunches that they had. Yeah. Obama looks like
he's like lifting the leg up. Man so got to me
and the sandwiches the starchy sandwiches. They all have the
bag. What's one of the bags and chips? Chips? Chips, the chips
chips. And then meanwhile, it's on all on the fine. How's China?
Given all of them a little dish? Oh, my God, and they've got the
little T the little individual T pots. But what are they trying
to? This is when elites think they're going to we're like
common people. Let's talk about the sequestration.
sub sandwich $100 plates. Look,
but look how many there aren't. There's 200 $300 of sub
sandwiches there. John
345 678-910-1112 13 I count 14 sandwiches for five people 14
sub sandwiches. These are the $7 version. So okay, let it let it
be 122
remain at the White House to the bread was way too much better
than a
How about those cookies? How about this cookie? Look how big
they are?
Yeah, they're huge. They're bigger
than Pelosi his head bigger than her areolas Oh, I know. That
just freaked me out. That made me sick. Yeah,
please. Sorry about that.
I didn't mean to do that. Let me lighten the mood then. Let me
lighten the mood as it took a little bit for us to figure it
out. But it didn't take all that long actually. This Dennis
Rodman thing. And what was interesting is in the past a few
days since our Sunday show when we said hey you know Dennis
Rodman got to smoke some dope or you know, maybe with some heroin
or probably opium over there with Kim Jong on with the with
the device crew. You know, the outrage, the anger of the
political media elite, was surprising. And then of course,
I figured out what it was all about, because we just we we
actually missed it first time around. How dumb are we? So just
to give an example, here's mica, mica Brzezinski, who of all
people being Brezhnev Brzezinski, his daughter should
be very interested in the in the grand chess game, which is his
book of North Korea and the move that Kim Jong Un is making.
Instead, she belittles not only Dennis Rodman as a moron, but
also anyone who even wants to talk about him going to North
Korea and breaking bread with Kim Jong Un including people on
her own show
I'm a little angry about that but
what do you what do you know please
listen my author friend is back we need to share we need to
share no sharing I don't share
Do you angry about
well just floating
Why are you angry about when it comes to George Stephanopoulos
having Dennis Rodman on this week?
I think that you just said it right there that coupling
probably is not what you expect to see on a Sunday show nor do
you need to see nor do you need to get attention to someone
who no because we need to be elitist important clearly brings
nothing to the table
clearly brings nothing to the table but common Electress smell
it's not just George Stephanopoulos there on the news
stories are all treating this as though Dennis Rodman is like an
actual
idiots you're treating it like storing it in.
It's four minutes past the hour, we should have been in some hard
hitting news being called the highest ranking member American
official he's not an official
rebounds for Michael Jordan
so why is every Why is the media laughing at Dennis Rodman John
do you know the answer?
Because they can't get access? I have no idea no
because this whole thing was completely entirely perfectly
timed. He was on the Sunday shows what came on Sunday night.
What celebrity apprentice with with Dennis Rob stretch? No, it
was Celebrity Apprentice with Dennis Rodman.
What was he on the show? Oh, that I would have put two and
two together. Yeah. Trump is the best at this. Well,
unfortunately, not so good. The rating sucked. I think I think
he made a mistake the ratings He put all his money into Dennis
Rodman going to because you know, I think this is how it
works. To Trump of course, because call it one. It's one
Yeah, he screwed up. Trump, of course can call Kim Jong on and
say Hey, dude, like, Listen, I got my show starting. I need you
to you know, let's do something cool. I got my guy here. Dennis.
Dennis.
First question would be do you want to be on it? Pull off cord
dog on the show.
Kim Kim, Kim Jong. Do you want to be on the show? No. Okay. All
right. Well, listen. I got Bret Michaels. I got Who else do we
have?
That's it. This happened by the way every single year on our
show, we find some Trump connection to some bullcrap news
story.
Yeah. But he didn't. But he didn't do great. Only 5.1
million viewers. That's that's not good. So here's the
sit on. It must be on NBC NBC. Yeah. NPC is in the toilet.
Yeah,
so they have trace Adkins. Now Kim Jong don't want him. They
got Bret Michaels. Like, no, he's, it's you know, annoying
guy. Latoya Jackson. Well, he's already had her and and then
there's Dennis Rodman and Dennis Robbins. Interesting. Yeah,
he's, he's interesting. He's an interesting guy. I'd love to
hang out with Dennis Rodman.
What I said between his mumbling so so you know, NBC has gotten
some of the worst ratings and the number five or something
network now they're bad. Really, I want to just make a point
about this. When they started in the decline when General
Electric bought them. And even though they you know, they were
doing much better before GE came along. GE is the ones who
implemented stacked ranking. Stuff stacked ranking. Yes.
Stacked ranking or forced ranking is a is a technique used
by a lot of companies. It was developed by Jack Welch at GE.
And he forced him
Right, right right now, on his employees. Yeah. And it made
them angry, they all got screwed.
Yeah, because you take four people in a group, and then they
rank each other. And then the fourth guy, the guy gets the
lowest ranking amongst peers. In other words, the supervisors
rank you you rank the supervisors, there's the lower
25% Get fired unceremoniously. Really, wow, look into this,
it's really nasty. And which is fine. Like apparently with a
startup or some company that needs to be has to have a
shakeout, you'll do this a cup for a couple of years, and then
you stop wisely, you would stop doing it, you don't keep doing
it, which is what GE did. And essentially, if you do it in a
creative environment, like a, like a TV network, you might as
well just shoot yourself. So I believe everybody was stack
ranked out of NBC, if they had a clue. And all that's left is
just these losers who are good at politics, because the people
that can stick around during a stack ranking type of of
employment model. They just really charming or they can
really nice. Everybody likes me. They're useless. So that's it.
See right now.
So Mark Ben's. Mark. Ben's was my dad's neighbor when he was
growing up. Marquee bends we used to call them I mean, he
used to call them because of course now mark is in as you
know, the the 70s and marquee bends from time to time if I'm
visiting uncle Don, he'll still come over and visit and he was
an inventor at GE. He he wouldn't he had something to do
with I think it was something with methane or, well, he had
several patents, or he invented several things. And he got
screwed out of everything he says directly by Jack Welch.
They took all the money, all the credit, all the patents, all the
rights and he got screwed on everything. You know, he says
like Jack Welch is the biggest aihole in the world. I should
talk to Marquis Benz
Yeah, you should you should talk to him. I I think I just off the
top of my head. I agree with that thesis. I never thought
much of Jack Welch and then when, of course when his own
company because he created the monster and his own company when
he retired Welch expected to get you know, a free plane for the
rest of his life and some a lot of a big bonus because he didn't
have a lot of stock and he was expecting to get a big pension
and the end of the permanent free airplane that he didn't
have to pay taxes on company plane, and they pulled the plug
from all that crap. Would one board meeting they he'd actually
created the environment that would screw him. Yeah. Which I
think was the great irony. And so Welch's actually has to write
books now for a living. He seems like just a douche.
His wife is pretty smokin hot. His current one?
Oh, good for him.
Yeah, no, today, hey, I'm all for it. I'm all for anyway. So
that was very obvious. And that's why everyone's angry not
because Dennis Rodman got to go to I mean, Eric Schmidt went to
Korea. He think he didn't um, he just didn't, you know, didn't do
a didn't do hash under a glass. But, you know, do you think he
just stayed in his hotel room now? Yeah, but that's like,
that's a real mission. And this is just promotion for Celebrity
Apprentice, which also, by the way, includes Gary Busey, who
Kim Jong Un would have no he doesn't want that guy anyway
near his Bordeaux collection. You see man it just eat
everything No, no drink it No, we don't want that. So Dennis
Robin was the obvious guy and that's what that's what it was
and that's why everyone's angry. And that and that of course it
was misplayed Trump sent the wrong guy because Rodman is
dumb. I mean, I like him and everything but he's dumb. He
didn't know how to promote
now He is dumb Okay, oh he's always mumbling
ah, and then of course ladies and gentlemen as we continue
into the depths of the size sequestration and as we prepare
for complete Armageddon, we now are living the mac and cheese
like
mac and cheese mac and cheese
hey now the Jeff Smith.
You like it? Very good. Very good. Like a snappy
sir. Sir Jeff Smith checks in once again with with the jingle
as expected. Mac and cheese mac and cheese that's right mac and
cheese mac and cheese. We've got a couple of stories first of
all,
perhaps should give him some cash right now to say pull that
thing for the no agenda show we'll
send him some bitcoin thank you to producer Ryan who did a
google trends analysis which will be linked in the show notes
for Niners three dot n a show notes.com. Very interesting,
John, that the term mac and cheese really didn't start
popping until interestingly enough 2008 This is exactly what
in November 2007, which is pretty much the election for
President Obama. I hate to correlate it but it is a trend
line that has gone up consistently with some some
peaks and valleys. We had a big peak, November 2010. So I guess
it I guess it comes around election time. And then Nova oil
it is November 2011. big spike in mac and cheese. And now the
last spike was November 2012. So I'm gonna go back. Wow, mac and
cheese seems to spike every election. This is interesting. I
didn't even realize this here November 2005. November 2006.
November 2007. But big spikes now now we're really ramping up.
Now we're on a mac and cheese world. We
are on a mac and cheese, the gravy train. And someone dug up
a couple of actually there's a couple you know a couple
interesting stories. There's a two food bloggers have are
waging war on craft. And it's kind of funny how well it's not
funny. It's It's really sad. These are the 100 days of real
food.com Lisa, Lisa and was the other one. Well, Lisa is waging
war on Kraft for that macaroni and cheese. We are petitioning
Kraft to remove all artificial food dyes from their line of
macaroni and cheese products. Yes, artificial food dyes.
Apparently Kraft uses yellow number six I think to make that
fake cheese is fake chemical cheese look so scrumptious.
Surprise surprise. And it is US version of mac and cheese has
yellow number five And yellow number six but the UK version
does not contain any artificial food die of the craft cheesy
pasta because they don't call it mac and cheese over there they
call it cheesy pasta.
I think it's a better name cheesy pasta.
It's it's class here.
Very class easy Yeah,
it's cheap cheese with this video Hold on a second. You want
to replay this video? Let's see if they have something to say.
Might as well Yeah, might as well do it right let's see
there.
I'm Lisa leaf with 100 days of real food.com And I'm Vani Hari
with food bank.com Okay
first of all food babe. Good name food bed. Both brunettes by
the way.
We're here to tell you about an important petition that we're
starting to ask Kraft to remove all artificial food dyes from
their entire line of macaroni and cheese products.
We found out that Kraft is using two ingredients and their US
version of Mac and Cheese yellow number five in yellow number six
but they're not using it overseas and there are other
products and we think this is an important issue to tackle
because
about the fact that you're serving your kids mac and
cheese, some crab from crab that's what you need to be
talking about. Like we want to serve something healthy to our
kids we don't
want those dies in it
anyway pat robertson on that 700 club but finds out that this is
actually a as he calls it a black thing as Condoleezza Rice
was interviewed by one of his parishioners on the show and and
she's going on about mac and cheese at Christmas one thing at
Thanksgiving you just have to have I'm sorry Thanksgiving mac
and cheese I can choose sister that
is my dish that's the one thing that I can rock but only once
once a year good interview Christy What is this mac and
cheese is that
it is a black thing Pat? It is listen and you guys other people
on the world needs to get on board with macaroni and cheese.
Seriously, I just okay Christmas and Thanksgiving we have to have
macaroni and cheese and it just it trips me out that you don't
I really don't I have never There you go. It's a black thing
according
to the black wall moves there but it's not a black thing is
bullcrap smack is mac and cheese mac and cheese it's it's a it's
a depression food that people are eating because they can't
afford anything else at a buck box of mac and cheese is
disgusting.
Mac and cheese like mac and cheese mac and cheese mac and
cheese mac and cheese now.
There's so there's a petition they have it on change.org
Really? These women get should get it. I mean change.gov
You mean? Is our White House petition?
Notice change.org So now there is a phony baloney is different.
Oh, check it out. change.org.
Now I know what change that org is I didn't I didn't think that
change.org would stoop to our level of mac and cheese.
It got 51,000 People who are supporting the mac and cheese
petition.
I call that potential customers.
Oh no, I take it back as half that many they need 51 603 Why?
Because I'd never mind. I just I don't care.
I don't care. No. Well, we do care. We're tracking the mac and
cheese trend. You identified it is your fault.
It is my fault. I feel bad now.
That's okay. Well, but now that we have a jingle it'll be around
for a while.
So we have a new development in the Department of Homeland
Security new development stopped depresses. Okay, now bring a pen
knife. Yes. On board the plane. Yes. And I have a little report
here. That was so slanted that they didn't even bother
balancing it. It's just that this whole idea is terrible. By
the way, if I'm not mistaken, you can you can correct me if
I'm wrong. But wasn't it always a problem to bring in any sort
of knife on board a plane before? 911? Yes.
You could not bring a pocket knife. Yeah, you could get it
through. But it couldn't you could get lucky where it could
get through but
you weren't supposed to do so. So somehow now it's okay. I
don't know why. I think it's just a cause a I think this
report which is, I believe slanted for a purpose. And I
think this was on the today's show.
I think I know why but I've been in
the same boat with you. I think this is to create job incidents
so they can crack down harder. And the fact that people I think
if I went out there and started talking to people about this a
half and would say yeah, it doesn't make any difference to
me. I don't carry a knife anyway, or I don't think it's a
big deal. You can get people to say that and you can get people
say, Oh, this is a terrible idea. We're all going to die.
But you don't if you're going to do any kind of journalism
whatsoever, especially with a stupid story like this. It's not
that hard to balance the story. This is completely slanted in a
way that made me very suspicious.
Another big story. We're following this big story wanting
a major change coming, q4, and it's stirring up a lot of
controversy starting next month, for the first time since 911.
Passengers will be allowed to carry some knives onto flights
because
you're right. That's a lie. It's not it's not the first time you
could not carry a knife on board that not that I can remember at
least
NBC News justice correspondent Pete Williams is it Reagan even
scissors was a problem National Airport, Pete Good morning.
Reagan National pretty much shut down right now, Matt, but the
TSA says the whole idea here is to avoid hassles for the
millions of Americans who carry pocket knives and for its
screeners freed from having to search for small knives and
other carry on items that cannot bring down a plane. And it says
with hardened cockpit doors, knives are less of a threat.
It's been in place for more than a decade the strict airline
security rule that forbids passengers to carry knives on
board with them. But that's about to change. TSA says it's
part of an effort to focus the attention of screeners on the
most serious threats. We are trying to focus on the highest
risk that being the non metallic improvised explosive devices.
And we don't want these small knives, pocket knives or
sporting equipment to be a distraction. The change also
brings the US in line with international security rules
allow knives that have blades up to six centimeters long.
Beginning next month. Passengers can carry on knives with folding
blades no longer than about two and a third inches that six
centimeters and no wider than half an inch knives with blades
that are fixed or that lock into place or have molded handles
will still be banned. Same for box cutters and razor blades
still ban passengers will be allowed to carry on a hockey or
lacrosse stick a pool cue ski poles and up to two golf clubs.
Another change in line with the international standards. Some 35
million Americans carry a pocket knife but early reaction we
sampled was negative men don't
like it. I don't know why they
would allow people to carry
knives on the plane. It's just ridiculous.
But representatives of flight attendants say the move
increases the risk to them. We believe this is a slippery
slope.
What will be the next weapon that can come on board? I bet
water bottles were
there to protect and serve passengers and also our selves.
They don't want to see weapons unnecessarily introduced on
board the aircraft.
Flight attendants are there to protect and serve Do you would
you wear a badge?
Here's here's a couple of things. On this clip. I know
what this is about is bullcrap. Now, one of them was the way
they use the you know you're supposed to do a kind of a
balanced report. Yeah. So you had I hate this idea. I hate
this idea. I hate this idea. And then he used the word but right
and then it was I hate the idea. So it goes like this. Well, they
don't like the like Daddy. I don't like Daddy. I don't like
JD but the airline attendants don't like the idea.
Right? It makes makes but makes you sound it makes it sound like
there's a balanced report, but it's basically the same side.
Yeah. So that was means so I got Oh, I'm sorry.
The other thing is, don't you I love the way they slipped in the
IE D
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I heard it. non metallic, non metallic
IED. Now this is all a part of why would
anyone want to bring to golf clubs?
Well, you did that. Well, you need their putter and you need
your wedge on onboard
to golf.
That's a very good question. I had a similar report from a
drunk Diane. I have lots of drunk Diane for some reason, who
by the way. Looks like a movie star. Yeah, I mean, she just I
mean, she just, I mean isn't she wouldn't work done, John. Isn't
that I mean? I know you love your wife and everything but I
mean, you'd run away with Diane Sawyer, wouldn't you?
I think if you saw our close up, you might think differently.
Okay. Well, she had a lot of work done. You know it is we
just see the we they look great on the screen and then you see
him it's like they've got carving marks all over their
face.
Like Have You Ever Have you ever seen Nicole Kidman next time you
see Nicole Kidman? Notice that when she talks her eyebrows
don't move her and her forehead of course is completely flat
because she's had so much Botox that she doesn't want she
doesn't get any roles. She can't act he has no expression
no she's she's just screwed herself again that Botox takes
people it can you also can't emote? Well you know there was
that study we had it on the show we played Yeah, people who get
all Botox up they lose the ability to actually be emotional
if they can't express the emotion you
become like a zombie. Yeah. So at the end of this are
by the way 67 Two five nine, so she's probably she's married to
Mike Nichols.
Who's that Who's that?
He's a famous director and used to be wasn't one standard comic.
He did catch 22 and some other movies. But she if you look at
her pictures, there's no way she's 67 without a lot of work.
She had a neck job obviously
all right, John deconstruct Diane Sawyer is look for us. We
said a neck job. What
else? Job she said a neck job. Boob Job. Boob Job. I don't
know. She may have Botox to her forehead. That's pretty common.
She's been worked on.
I like her because she's sloshed.
She goes,
I really liked her for that. Well, here she is. And at the
end of this report, I think is the true reason. Behind me
besides slipping in the IE D meme, which of course we
identified here. There's something else
and a big change to tell you about too big of a
change. Did you hear that? John? Play it again. It's a bigger
machines and a
big change to tell you about tonight.
And a big change. Where's Newt? Big change because new new has
no give it stop. Give me the bottle new and
a big change to tell you about tonight about to take place for
American travelers heading towards security at the airport.
For the first time since 911. The TSA is allowing some knives
on board and announcement greeted with confusion and
outrage by flight attendants using ABCs David currently has
our story.
The things people try to carry on a plane may boggle your mind.
But tonight after more that was a taser. By the way, they showed
a taser that a decade of confiscating
10s of millions of pocket knives. The TSA says it's time
for a change, you can now carry a small knife on board we know
that the small little items are unlikely to be used again. To
try and hijack an aircraft in a month and a half, you'll be
allowed to carry a folding knife. If the blade is less than
2.36 inches long and a half inch wide. Golfers will be able to
carry on to clubs and hockey, lacrosse and pool players can
board with their sticks. Razor blades and box cutters like
those used by the hijackers on 911 will still be banned. Not
every flight has an Air Marshal on board who is trained to deal
with knife wielding passengers. Which is why the flight
attendants are angry tonight saying B and their passengers
will now be at risk.
Having knives on board is a horrible decision. And we're
incredibly disappointed in the TSA for allowing weapons on
board an aircraft,
by the way is the TSA they just make they're allowed to decide
this a bunch of Yahoo's they have that right I thought this
was all congressional say says
the change will allow officers to concentrate on more serious
threats, explosives, they find some of those everything from
mortar rounds to fuses and guns every day. The Archons are found
to us checkpoints, and on average three of them are loaded
them by Diane every month at each of our 20 biggest airports
they collect about 850 pounds of confiscated goods about half of
that more than 400 pounds are these small knives and other
larger knives as well. They hope these changes will help these
lines move a little
quicker. Now that of course is the what is about it because you
know now it's going to be every single pocket knife, every golf
club, every bat every hockey stick will have to be measured.
It's gonna it's gonna be a nightmare. Because not just like
oh, sorry, you can pick that toss it in the bin or you can
throw it out yourself. They're gonna have to measure it. Let's
see the blade. Is it a locking blade? Does it have a molded
handle? Because it can't have a molded handle? You see? That's
what this is about. This is about more work, more TSA
personnel, bull crap and a report from the front ladies and
gentlemen, after we reported that you can simply avoid the
slave scanner and get to the magnetometer. We now have seven
reports. Six reports of people who went up to the TSA employee
and said I'm sorry, I have a medical condition I can't lift
my arms above my above my head. Six of those were sent through
the magnetometer no pat down, no slave scanner. One received a
pat down. But on his way back he did the same trick again and he
got passed right through and I've got some more inside info.
Adam, this is from one of our producers confirmed with a
friend of mine who's banging a TSA manager. Hell, we love our
hell she told him to do it. The arm thing not the banging. They
apparently make you show that you can't raise your arms with
them. They just send you through the junior slave scan and which
is the magnetometer and I got a note from Michael Brown former
DHS Undersecretary an email Adam listening to Thursday Thursday
nights no agenda. I heard you talk about avoiding the full
body scanners at airports just a heads up. This does work. Well,
I haven't made a big deal of it on my radio program, TSA will
start requiring medical certificates or some other
nonsense, I do return routinely avoid the opt out by simply
telling the IDX checker, I can't raise my arm above my shoulder,
every time direct to the magnetometer instead of the full
body scanner. And I check this guy out. He was indeed Michael
Brown was was the undersecretary of Homeland Security for Bush.
Did he want you outing him?
Well, he has a radio show.
Oh, I'm sorry. You're right. That's history. Because here's
how it works. If everybody has a radio show now, what's he doing
on the radio?
Because he's telling the secrets. And then like, there's
no political career for him. But you don't see Lucy Napolitano
promoting him?
No, it's because he's not a woman.
Well, there's that. But also because you know, he's decided
to tell the truth. And then oh, well, we can't have you around
douche. Can't have you. I got I got one thing before we go to
break here, which is really bugging me. We've talked about
these jabroni is the SPLC. And we think it was inconclusive.
The Southern Poverty Law Center.
Yeah, you really have a Yeah,
I got I got a I got a real distrust for these guys. What do
you know about the Southern Poverty? I mean, what kind of
name is that the southern is a great name, actually, I should
say as a New World Order speak Southern Poverty. Law Center is
poverty like for poor people like it serves poor of the
South? What does it what does that name mean?
Well, it began as an organization in the south is
where this is what I remember from there, they used to be very
famous, will do the book of knowledge. Search did get the
history. But they did the they did a couple of interesting
lawsuits. I think around the this 1980s or 70s, or something,
and they were founded in 1971. So it had to be like between
then and probably 80. But in the late 70s, they managed to do
some suits against these skinhead type groups radical
rise right to really targeting a real target. Yeah, they did some
lawsuits where they found a guy riding, you get a kick out of
this manifesto, writing something like a manifesto, that
was that somebody was part of the clique, and then he went and
killed somebody. And then it turned out that you could sue in
some convoluted way, the entire organization because of the
manifesto, and that they were in creating the situation that
cause somebody to die based on, you know, some just like, you
know, how it helped her to a murder, you know, you have to be
standing up to the guy driving the car when a guy shoots
somebody, to an event managed to put a bunch of these
organizations completely out of business. And so the guy, the
main guy there, who's been on TV a lot, I can't think of his
name, became very famous for this sort of thing.
Richard J. Richard Cohen? I don't know. No, I don't think
he's the CEO, the CEO.
I think if somebody else was one of the lawyers Anyway, go on
with your thoughts on this. Okay. Well,
well, because I'm so I'm always watching these guys, because I
hear him on NPR. They're like the go to for racial hate.
They're like the go to whenever there's racial hate, and there's
a lot of that being incited recently, a lot of being talked
about. Then there's always someone from the Southern
Poverty Law Center like they are the go to for mainstream media.
And so they sent they have a report a new report, and they
sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder and DHS
Secretary leucaena Paula Tano. And yeah, they have
I'm sorry, sorry, Morris Dees is the famous. Yeah.
And so this report is about hate and hate groups. And he starts
off by dear Hey, Eric, and Janet. On October 25 1994, six
months before the Oklahoma City bonnet bombing, we wrote
Attorney General Janet Reno about the growing threat of
domestic terrorism. So that line by itself. And I have, by the
way, I don't think it was ever called domestic terrorism.
Certainly not at that point in time. But right there. What he's
saying is, we called it we had the red book on the Oklahoma
City bombing six months ahead of time. So what I'm about to tell
you is very, very important. In fact, the second line is today,
we write to express similar concerns. So he's talking about
hate, but what's interesting is in this he he does a video on
his website, but he says the exact same thing, I think with
the SM pooper show, but it's it's not pooper it's like some
fill in like the finance. Org is filling into idiot. And he says
the same, he has the same rap. And I just wanted to play this
because it's so much it's so wrong and so much of it is
essentially saying that you and I, John, you, John C. Charles
DeVore. I can add them see Clark curry could be deemed by the
Southern Poverty Law Center as not only domestic homegrown
terrorists, but we hate black people too, because it's the
same thing you say. You understand the following me?
You hear me they are so they're trying to so they're doing a
connection.
They're doing a connection between propaganda trade for the
president because he's black.
Oh, right. The President's black Yeah, noticed. And of course, if
you were against the government, then you're racist.
You're racist, or fifth
story up front, the rise of hate in America. So
remember, it's hate, and it's hate, and they keep talking
about k k k and hate against the black men. But it's not really
even about that at all. They're just making it an Oh, it's very
tricky. And I want you to specifically listen for this,
John, how they're making that connection without really even
talking this. There's no racial conversation here. It's all
about hate for the government. But that means you hate the
black man Oberlin College
in Ohio suspended classes this week, after a student reported
seeing someone dressed in Ku Klux Klan robes.
By the way, it turned out to be not true. This is just a setup,
which is disgusting as a setup for a new story
that follows a string of recent hate incidents on campus. Now,
last August, a 40 year old ex soldier turned white supremacist
rocker shot up rocker, a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin,
killing six people you'll remember that paid crime. A few
weeks later, a group of Georgia men was linked to an anti
government plot to assassinate President Obama. And it's all
part of what the Southern Poverty Law Center says is a
disturbing trend. The group's new study says the number of
anti government groups is at an all time high, and many are
driven by their fear that the government will strip them of
their rights but the study's findings Do they add up? Out
front tonight Mark Potok is the author and of the report and a
senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center a senior
fellow it's not a university. We got to have these titles, John.
Yeah. Senior Fellow no agenda.
I'm Adam curry Senior Fellow with the no agenda community.
Senior Fellow at the southern it's a 5013 C corporation. It's
a nonprofit Senior Fellow with a bowl crack.
Michael Medved is a conservative commentator for Salem radio. And
John Avlon is a CNN contributor and the author of wing nuts how
the lunatic fringe is hijacking America, which is a suitable
title for our discussion tonight. Thanks.
Whoa, that this is going to be pretty balanced, don't you
think?
Might and what's my Michael Medved is funny because now
after you play this clip, I have a clip to fuck off. Good, good,
good. Good
to all of you. Mark, let me start with you. You're the
author of the report. It's it focuses on so called patriot
groups, which you describe as conspiracy minded anti
government and on the radical right now back into
why you didn't know. Sorry, chat room, you might as well go home.
That's you. All right, if everybody who listened to this
show you and we went from killing Sikhs as white rockers
and plotting to kill the president to now your Patriot
group. This is a very, very this is really really interesting
what's happening. You know, the word patriot, it's almost like
changing the word gay. You know, gay men something else now it
means homosexual. Patriot meant you were fucking patriot. Now it
means you're anti the government. And you are a
racist. 1012.
That was what the study counted. You looked at 13 160 so called
patriot groups on the radical right, an increase of 813% since
2008.
Notice this 813% Since 2008, right before
President Obama took office, but lots of questions are coming up
today. Mark about how you define these groups. Give me some sense
of how you define these patriot. Extremist right wing groups.
Okay.
Patriot extremists, right white ring white, right wing groups
who hate the black man and hate the government. You ready? John
me of your pen? Because we got to write all these things down?
Sure, Ellie, what the groups are, are the very same groups
that we all used to call the militia groups back in the
1990s. They more normally described themselves as Patriot
organizations, or Christian Patriot organization. You know,
essentially what holds these groups together. What kind of
makes the movement is that they all subscribe to a conspiracy
theory which goes more or less as follows. Come on, John,
give it a guess. Come on. Come on. Give it a guess. Well, give
it a guess.
Yes, you need to be the new world order. Yeah, keep going.
Genda 21 My job stops
not you're already there. You already would jump to the end.
is perfect, but he builds it up.
They believe that the federal government has a secret plan to
impose martial law in this country.
Well, yeah. Yeah. We just read about it. We just it's called
the change of contingency operations. The definition? Yes.
Very likely with the aid of foreign troops, perhaps un blue
helmets.
Well, we seem to be doing it everywhere else,
that the government will then come in and take all guns away
from all American citizens. Yeah, kind of happening. Those
who resist will be thrown into concentration camps that either
are now being built or already have been built. Oh, gee,
what is these the internment camps we've been reading about?
It turns out as the 2010 memo becomes available, that that is
actually
true by FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency. And
ultimately, the United States will be forced into some kind of
One World socialistic government what's often called the New
World.
There we have it. And of course, we hate the black man.
That's really what ties these groups,
like men come into play
with nothing and has nothing to do with it at all. But if you
got to go to the website, SPL center.org, because they have an
interactive Google map of all of the hate groups now, you'll be
maybe surprised to find that you'd think that Texas would
have the most hate groups of all but no, California has the most
hate groups. And they've listed them they've categorized them.
So check that let me let me give you some names. American patrol
voice of citizens together. That is a hate group. Bear naked
Islam that is a hate group. Chick Publications, a hate
group, Christian guardians, counter currents publishing, the
creative Alliance crew 38. Escaping Islam, defend
students.org I mean, really, these are hate groups. I mean,
please, National Socialists, American Labor Party, official
Street Preachers, Wu Tang Clan I'm sorry. It would be funny if
that showed up. Orange County skins Tony Alamo Christian
ministries Come on. He's not a hate groups. And at the top of
this page, they've got like a guy with a swastika flag and a
German helmet doing a Heil Hitler. Come on people this is
crazy. And if anything, I'm disappointed that no agenda
didn't make it every idiot is on this list. And we didn't even
make it on the list. Come on. That's lane. Check Texas for a
second I mean seriously this this is Oh agenda. This is the
Oh, the creativity Alliance not haters. The creativity Alliance,
faith and heritage first century Christian ministries again, Lone
Star United these are all hate groups. Okay. hate groups. Tom
Brown ministries that a hate group really a hate group?
I don't know man. Let's look up a couple of these give me that
one that was on both lists. Okay, that is
the creativity movement that's supposed to be and
not that know that the Christian was first Christian some or
other
first century Christian ministries. Type Christian
identity is that a hate group now?
It's not a group. It's a style. Yeah, now always has been a hate
group.
Here it is. overview of all the movements that have appeared
among white racists in America Christian identity is surely one
of the strongest. Although nominally Christian, it owes
little to even the most conservative of American
Protestants. I don't know man. conqueror we must for our
causes. Just Oh, they have a slogan. Yay. Anyway, so what
they should have been doing if they want to talk about hate and
race was this little ditty that I picked up from this he
I get a clip in here. Michael Medved. I want to make this
little move a little closer. Milady Aaron, this is Erin on
Obama. With Van Jones.
Oh, Erin Burnett. There we go.
Alright, see in a few minutes, Anderson. Now our fifth story
out front. President Obama is lazy. These are the explosive
comments made by Fox News Chief Roger Ailes.
Oh, I get it. This is the black man is lazy. Is that what this
is? Oh, God.
Vanity Fair just released an excerpt from Elle's new
biography in which he says referring to a comment someone
made about an Romney. Obama is the one who never worked a day
in his life. He never earned a penny that wasn't public money.
How many fundraisers does he attend every week? How often
does he play basketball and golf? I wish I had that kind of
time. Laser. But the media won't report that I didn't come up
with that Obama said that to Barbara Walters. All right, he
did and I'm gonna get to that in a moment. But the question is,
are those comments rate Fully charged or just frank talk.
Michael Medved is a conservative commentator on Salem radio and
Van Jones he is a CNN contributor van. Rachael
very very I first of all I just want to say I worked with this
president I worked for him he kicked you out
very very racially is a racist commentary of course now play
Obama says lazy clip and then that resolves it it seems
what's the trait you most deplore and yourself and the
trait you most deplore and others? Laziness. Lazy? It's
interesting.
Deep down
underneath all the work, I do think there's laziness. Wow.
So Obama is a racist, he's
a racist. Well, so here's what this will close. This will bring
the whole thing to closure. The no agenda show which also was
known as always tries to bring you a little bit of balance,
okay, a little bit of balance to the entire scene of information
disinformation that was being pumped into your veins through
mainstream syringes. And they do prick you, they do prick you,
you can always stay away from it. This is from the Al Sharpton
radio show. Now Sharpton, of course, is the African American
preacher, who is very tiny has a big head and he's on MSNBC. And
he's always talking about how everyone hates the black
president in the White House. Would that be a correct
assumption?
Yeah, that's his basic theme. Right?
So he has on a guy Earl Afari. Hutchinson, I don't know who he
is, but just wanna make sure you know that he he's the guy
talking. And he came up with some very interesting statistics
from Gallup. Not from this Gallup poll, that he was
stunned, shocked, could not believe it.
We know a few things about the NRA in terms of their overall
makeup, even though they say they don't keep any statistics,
any figures on race or ethnicity. The whole thing is if
you believe in the Second Amendment, you want to protect
gun gun ownership and other rights of gun owners. That's all
we ask in terms of being a member, a bonafide member of the
NRA. However, a couple of things wherever now one thing actually
I was surprised to find typically when you think of the
NRA, you typically think of basically a bunch of
conservative white guys who pretty much run the outfit. Uh,
but and also, when you think of gun owners in America, gun
ownership in America, you tend to think basically kind of
rural, southern white male. But now,
think about that for a second. Is that not exactly what you
think, John? Is that exactly what we have been taught to
think,
is what we've been taught to think? Yeah, like
the NRA people who want guns, bunch of middle aged southern
white guys hanging out of their guns and their Bibles and my ar
15. Right shooting squirrels, shooting squirrels and any kind
of cans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, any cans I can get my
hands on.
So what I was stunned to find looking at a poll from Gallup
when they looked at gun ownership as a 2011 45%. And
this is what really caught my eye 45% of gun owners in America
are non white, and even more interesting, almost 30% was
illegally owning guns. 30% of gun gun owners in America are
African American. There's no real contract.
Yeah, you go 30% of guns owned legally in America are African
Americans. 45% almost half of all guns owned by non whites.
Interesting habit. Interesting, isn't it? Yeah.
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mean? That means you put to put you put the house up for 45,000
If only what garage is this? I just do anything? Yeah, right.
Okay. You put the house up for 45,000 and normally and the
circumstances especially recently for sure. If you come
in and say I buying it for 45,000 They are usually supposed
to sell to you at $45,000
Another thing we'll get back to you
know generally speaking do you bid 40 on a house is asked for
45 and then they do a deal and maybe you get it for 42 So
that's the way it normally goes into the housing market but in
the case of the auction market you go I want I want to buy for
45,000 Well, you and five other people we're going to auction it
really starting at 40 What
is the is the housing market like we're like all of a sudden
it's great and we're now no longer in crisis what happened
to the mac and cheese life
in parts of California San Francisco is a good example
because of the well This is Los Angeles Yeah, I know that's what
kind of gets me that's home of corruption. Yeah, I don't get
it. I don't know I don't know what part of La she's talking
about. But apparently some places you know you have to do
go through this process. And it's always gonna over bidding.
So the face comes up at 45,000 You go I'll give a 48 so well
okay, well, we got one week and we're gonna make a decision
somebody else I've given 52 Hey 5048 52 came in you want to go
higher this
is exactly how I want to sell my bitcoins Alright Joe to see in
the Bitcoin as Joe to see with a why by the way, not with an AI
which is the thing the girl group Joe to see from the 90s
I'm gonna give you a little bit of house buying karma and see if
we can get the karma. I'm like Chuck Woolery. Do we have some
how's my income?
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And finally, Mac Harbor, LLC 50 in Sheboygan, Michigan. And I
want to talk about these donations being off to an
extreme this year. And I sorry, normally, we always get more
donation as time goes by. But I think we're peaked. And here's
my concern.
If you stop for a second, I just want people know this is John
sent me a note last night which I didn't get until this morning.
Which you know, and I think I haven't replied like, Oh, thanks
for some positive news in the morning douche.
So here's the thing. Last time, and this is include we had about
27 people that actually donated that we read into the segments.
Everybody else on this on this list was either like a $2
subscription afford or subscription. We don't have that
many subscribers. But we had enough to give us a total base
of donations of 100 or 202 people, which most again, were
just subscriptions. On spreadsheets.
It's half half of those are subscriptions of ranging between
$2 and I think there's some 30 threes. Right? Actually,
no, there's 27 out of that number that are not
subscriptions.
That's what I'm saying. It's like so everything else. Oh,
after 27 Oh my god. So you're saying only 10% is not a
subscription?
Yeah. But that's not the point. The real point is last year at
this time. We had 407 of these entries and the exact same time
period and they were shorter because many people that give a
shit this year, then this time last year, that's what's
concerning.
Ah yeah, that's, that's messed up
407 versus 202. Those are the numbers. So that's year
over year. So we've gone down by 50% percent. Wow.
Now either people don't care or they got their you know, they
get their subscription we do have a few $4 A week
subscribers. But when I say a few, I mean a few. We have 80
total. So that's like, you know, not what I call runaway success.
That idea, even though I think is the best way to go, I think
that gets everybody you know, clears. I think a lot of
subscriptions have been lost. A lot of people quit. I think we I
don't know what the total number of downloads is up. I don't
think there's any doubt about that. We have more listeners,
but more or less we have.
We have $44.40
know that. Yeah, but this is
but that's that's that's per month. I you know what? Your
point is? well made?
I've done the math.
Yeah, I haven't because I don't do this. I mean, I just I
Alright, so what's the so what are we going to do?
I don't know. I've just very disconcerning that this, this
trend is? I'm going to keep checking this. I'll check it
again next week with the exact same download. Could we have all
our records that go all the way back? Last year may have been
the peak of the show? I mean, four years into it.
I'm not worried
anymore. They say Wow, these guys are kind of entertaining.
But you know, I can do without it.
Do you think is that or do you think that we're not bitching
enough? Or do we think that the
more more attention if we bitch I'm not going to do
that anymore? You know what? Yeah, well, that's what I'm
saying. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of the bitching. And
actually, I've pulled back a lot on the bitching I don't think
I've pitched since November. Because I remember the last
time a lot of people you know that are just you know, they you
know, I wanted to by the way I want everyone to if they if
you're on the newsletter, please whitelist us because there's a
lot of spam filters that pull us out. I did a big I did some work
with MailChimp I was bitching about the fact that the delivery
Doctor program doesn't work very well and be over this woman
named Ashley and she says We have numerous people that are on
this mainly she went to did a whole analysis and this is like
worth money a whole analysis of our mailing this is you had she
she named like we have 300 people that that have been
getting the mailing for the last three years have not
never even opened it once now once
she said what is this dead wood even doing on this list? You
should get rid of these people. And there's a bunch of stuff
like that going so we're rethinking how to do this and of
course I went and gave a little speech with Leo do some
conversions here with a bunch of radio guys and there's a number
of guys well you know you're good you can change the show and
get plenty of advertising you get
always saying this Yeah, we can get plenty of advertising and
then do what
Yes, that's the point that's even Leo agrees with that. So we
were in a in a bind here we have like less people that care by
50% than last year and I think the shows are just as good I
believe I think the
shows are better than last year going too long. They're going to
like
you know Shana peppers mama, who does the copyright copy edits
the newsletter. She's like she's told me she was just six weeks
behind on the show. Because the shows are too long of one of
these because it's a lot of these people listen to the whole
show. And the shows are running three hours and instead of the
two to two and a half. So they can't keep up and so they don't
even know this is going on. They won't even know this complaint
of mine right now for months.
So what do you suggest we do? I think we
should have a hard stop
you think that's going to fix the problem?
No, I don't I think it's not gonna hurt because I do think
the show's running too long. It really goes on too long. It's
just we slipped to three hours somehow. And we have never
retreated at all we've kept you up very pushing 310
Yeah, but you think that's the reason why people are not
donating. I don't I don't see how they
see the connection but if they stopped listening to the show,
because it's too long and they don't get to even hear
me alright, so maybe we just need to stop for two hours then.
Well, two hours would be nice if we could do it I think it's
almost impossible.
I think we can What do you mean it's not it's not impossible at
all. I'm done. I can stop right now. Let's end it let's do it.
Let's do it. Fuck these people.
I'm done
Are you done or not? What? I have one thing I should play.
Well then let me while we have birthdays, maybe we should not
do that. Birthdays knighthoods. Um, you really pissing me off
with this this is not this not you specifically, but I'm very
upset about this obviously
should be Yeah,
well i
That doesn't mean to take it out on his on the group here that
actually contributed we're not mentioning them. We're not
bitching about sir gear or melon song in tailored. Alright, well
listen about me, that's the problem, we have all these great
nights and keep coming in. And they keep supporting us. And
then we have all these, you know, hangers on that, like the
show, but they, you know, they complain, we had one guy sent a
nasty note in on the because when I get when we send a
mailing out, we get people unsubscribe, it's always about
the same number. And one guy says, Well, you know, and
unfortunately, the way it works, I mean, I have all this records.
So this guy has been opening the mailing, and then he's bitching
about this last minute because there was no room to anything
interesting. So he just unsubscribes and his whole
history has been like, with the show for like three years, and
his total donations were at five bucks total. And he's
complaining for three years, five bucks for three years total
a one time donation of five bucks, which we have nothing
against people donating five bucks. And we encourage everyone
to donate what they can or empty their paypal account or
whatever. But I don't think it gives you a $5 donation over a
year's period gives you the right to start bitching the way
this guy did. And it just was extremely annoying, which I
think is what triggered my my kind of anger here, which is
like it's like the chat room. How many of these guys in the
chat room contribute to the show at all? All they do is go in
there and kvetch
there's there's a number there's a quite there's quite a number.
You know what the Bitcoin people aren't? Now we get bitcoin deal
a deal with which we know we're not going to deal with it. Waste
of time I'm pulling it from the pull it right off, pull it off.
Now there's
like there's no pull it off? Well. Here's here's my, this is
my ultimate fear. Now I'll just tell it, I just put it out there
my ultimate fear. And we've seen the minute the New Year hit.
That's like that was like our peak. It's like that's when
everything in my correct. That's kind of when it really
collapsed. No,
we did a great December and the January was not only mediocre,
but consistently mediocre in a funny way. This has never
happened before. By the way. I have been tracking this because
I do all the track for five years. Six years almost. Yeah,
yeah. And it used to just be like joy, you have a bad, bad
show in terms of people showing any interest in helping and then
then it makes up for the next week. If the next show it goes
way up. Well, it was an up and down thing. This has
consistently route consistently mediocre, just time you know,
half the number of people. And I think part of it may be due to
the fact that people are so backed up on the show, because
it's you know, six hours or plus, instead of five, which is
an hour didn't seem like you could get that backed up. But
you know, I have a whole
Okay, here. Here is the bottom line is the following. I'm gonna
work up it is the percentage of people who listen to the show,
and actually contribute is too small. That's the problem. It is
it's 1% 1% of the people who listen to this and if everyone
if everyone if 100% all contributed $1 a month we would
not even have this conversation at all we wouldn't have to do a
donation segment. Right? We could be I mean we're doing the
I mean this is seriously I mean why even do a donation segment
I'm seeing it's interesting to see the chat room like I wanted
to give $500 But they won't even respond to my emails well you
know what fuck you fuck you fuck you.
What emails
Oh, I gotta
calm bull crap anyway say that are full of it.
I gotta calm down I'm gonna
it's like you know Oh, I would do this and that well if you did
this and I do that if you do this I do that it's not the way
it works no, we do the show that's it and you want to donate
you get it's not just we're not forcing anybody to donate you
can do whatever you want you can listen to hang on it's fine. I
was bothersome is guys like that guy you just said right there
the guys who are trying to lord it over us like they're as if
they were advertisers trying to lord it over us what the guys
who bitch to me on the on the MailChimp program because it's
like there's no content in this last newsletter so I quit it
even though we do have content and newsletters on it you know
it's not everyone most of the time when we're not getting
enough income we have to promote getting more income in the
newsletter. That's what we do. But to think that you're an
advertiser that can lord it over a show this an independent
thought process is crazy. And I don't know what email this guy's
talking about. It's probably bullcrap.
Alright, I am now I'm getting out of the chat and fuck you
chat room. Fuck you. Fuck everybody. I'm sick and tired of
this shit. really sick and tired. Don't don't get off dot
org slash and I don't find something better to do with my
time
Troy Spraga congratulates himself he is celebrating today
John Heller and turns 69 on the 12th good to have him aboard as
a producer on the no agenda program Sam coin See, it says
Sam's husband. Did we say that right? Was this Sam for Sam's JC
was Ashley I think Ashley says Happy Birthday to her husband
Sammy turns 33 Meghan Trotsky congratulates dad David Trotsky
turned 44 On the show today and Jay Cutler sheeny says Happy
Birthday to Mike he turns 31 Tomorrow happy birthday from
your friends here at the no agenda show. We'll go right into
it. Philip Meezan step forward please sir as we have our blades
at the ready thank you for being one of the 1% donating to the
best podcast in the universe and therefore we are very proud to
make you a night of the no agenda roundtable so I hereby
pronounce the Sir Philip knight on the no agenda roundtable for
you. So hookers and blow reports in short, may hot pants and
booze wenches and beer and oh, I'm sorry. That's all we have it
sequestration left it out sequestration. Sorry. That's all
we have.
So anyway, we'll work on this problem and figure it out. No,
no, no, we're
not we're not going to work on the problem is I'm going to work
on finding other sources of income. And I'm, I'm very
emotional about this. I'm very emotional about it.
Unless you bring this up. No, no, no, I
think you should. But I'm about to do a speech on Saturday at
South by Southwest from talking about the great value for value
model, which apparently is now fucking failing. Well, maybe
just canceled the speech. Oh, and by the way, I'm so happy to
be there. It sucks. It doesn't work. People won't contribute
1% of that speech.
It's interesting. It's the everyone bitches about the 1%
the richest 1% are douchebags. Well, that's correct. The 1% is
all that is donating the rest of the douchebags. It's the 99% the
leechers the chat room horse. Thank you people who support our
programs supporter, thank you very much. But you know, if
we're actually on the downswing, which is what you're telling me
she just
be doing a private podcast for them. Thank you.
How about that? That's a good idea. I mean, just, I mean,
maybe we need to, we need to rethink our model, some that we
got to rethink because it's not working. It's just not working.
And the amount of abuse and bullshit we have to deal with is
not worth it. We put ourselves out there people call us names
tell us we're full of crap we want to we're talking about. And
of course, when we're right about stuff, very few are
jumping up and down. But it's okay. I think that we change
your life. I think that we help you get through your commute. I
believe that we give you better entertainment than anything you
can find in the mainstream. You're probably paying up
between 102 $100 a month for your stupid cable, and more in
other dumb shit you don't need but okay. And then just give us
the abuse. People who support the show. Thank you very much. I
think it's a great idea. John, how many people is it in total?
How many is it? That one person how many people actually support
the show? 4000 Maybe? Is that the number
that's about right four to five so
why don't we just do a private podcast for those 4000 I think
that's the right way to go.
They wouldn't be by not I mean, obviously, you know, it's it
doesn't help getting new people but I don't
care that no one seems to give a shit about us. I have I have a
stack of stuff that I've that I've that I've worked on a
stack. I've got a whole thing about steer Syria. I've got
space wars. I've got the war on weed. I've got elites. I've got
Gitmo nation. I've got some on bullying. I've got some
banksters none of it is going to be played today because we're
stopping. What's your last clip so we can end this?
Well, we could do a teaser here this would be good for the next
show, which is here's this aren't they they had a bunch of
hearings in now about the sequester without with the
military. They finally given up on having the Chief of Staff's
guy they just they get bailed out and they left it up to the
second rate guys to come in. So hold
on a second. I'm also stopping the stream. I'm stopping the
stream just will just continue like this. They don't need to
stream fuckup
so they tried. They tried to get a second rate guys and I just
got to biggest kick out is is army guy, the representative
from the army complaining about Iran and pronouncing it wrong.
Now that he's not on the inside, if he's saying,
Yeah, but just listen to this little thing of the oldest list
of all these little things going on supposedly,
Iran remains the single most significant regional threat is
stability and prosperity, reckless behavior and bellicose
rhetoric characterize a leadership that cannot win the
affection of its own people for the respect of any responsible
nation in the region. Iran's continued support to the
murderous Assad regime in Syria, coupled with its malign
activities in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Bahrain, Yemen, Gaza
and globally in Sudan, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Thailand, India,
Georgia, Bulgaria, Nigeria, and even here in Washington, DC, in
an attempt to kill the Saudi ambassador, and elsewhere in the
world,
and elders, other places I haven't,
is there.
So I have a whole thing on the Golan Heights on the UN convoy
that's been hijacked by by the so called Free Syrian Army, the
UK sending in armored tanks, the whole thing that's going on, but
we're not going to do that today. Because I'm ending the
show. We're stopping it right here. I'm done. And support us
and then we'll see if we do it on Sunday. I have better things
to do with my life. What
is F Kennedy interested in your theory?
About Syria? Yeah. Well, you can hear that on Sunday. Okay. What?
I got a couple of things too, that I've left out here.
Yeah, but you know, we're coming off as what is our so this put
239 We're 239 we're way too long. 239. We're done. Yeah,
we're done. It's 239. That's what that's already nine minutes
too long. And then we'll see how I feel on Sunday after my
Saturday speech. By the Oh yeah, it works so well.
Okay, well sign off my friend.
I don't even I have to go get my pass today. I don't even feel
like getting that.
All right. Don't get your pass.
Coming to you from Austin, Texas in the morning. I'll talk to you
on Sunday
and go to Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak and I'll talk to
you on Sunday.