And it's often quite good.
Adam Curry, John C.
DeVora.
It's Thursday, December 12th, 2025.
This is your award-winning give on Asian
media assassination episode 1824.
This is no agenda.
Seizing big boats and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas oil country here in
FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're tired of
all these AI robot dogs.
I'm John C.
DeVora.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
What AI robot dogs are you referring to?
Oh man, they're all over the place.
In Berkeley?
Just running around?
No, AI robot dogs.
Where are they?
On TikTok, on YouTube.
No, go on Amazon and just look up
AI robot dog and you'll see all the
ones available.
I watched a whole ad for one called
Wuffy.
Wuffy?
Which I don't even believe is a real,
I don't even believe this is a real
product because every time I see pictures of
it, it's a different size.
It's big, it's small, it's stinky.
Something's up.
This is a throwback to AIBO.
That's what this is.
Wow, 959 bucks?
No, no, there's $50 ones.
We're talking about the cheapies.
Yeah, but if you're going to get a
robot dog, get a good one.
Well, you don't know that that's any better
than a $49 dog.
A puppy pie.
Puppy pie robot dog with chat GPT, large
AI models, AI embodied intelligence, ROS, robotic dog,
vision science, voice understanding, slam mapping, navigation, bionic
quadruped robot standard kit with Raspberry Pi 5,
4 gigabyte.
Hey now.
Yeah.
Did you see the video of one of
Elon's robots, the Optimus Pi?
Optimus Pi.
Can I say something first?
Yeah.
I think when you announced the show, you
said it was the 12th.
It's actually the 11th.
I thought I said the 11th.
Did I say the 12th?
I think you did.
That's the only reason I noticed this because
I just didn't feel it.
Well, it clearly says 11th on my cheat
sheets, my script that you sent me to
read like you always do.
Read this.
I always send you a very elaborate script
which you rarely read.
No.
Well, I read it.
I just read it wrong.
You always go off script.
You're always wondering.
It makes it very difficult to do the
show.
I know.
So there was a Tesla Optimus and it
was showing off how it was, I don't
know, handing out glasses and doing drinks and
stuff.
And then all of a sudden, you see
it reach to its head with one hand
on each ear and then make a motion
like it's taking its headset off, which of
course it doesn't have.
And then it falls backward, completely disabled.
It takes its head off?
Well, no, like its headset.
So really the implication here is that this
thing is being operated by someone else who
accidentally didn't know that they were live on
the robot, took their headset off and the
robot disconnects and falls backward.
Oh, that's hilarious.
Yeah.
These things, you know, this goes back to
historically.
To every tech demo.
Every big tech demo ever done in the
world is fake.
People have to realize this.
You see these demos, they are all fake.
Once in a while, somebody tries to do
one live and it's always, without fail, screws
up.
So they don't do them, rarely do them
live because of that.
It's like the one with Steve Jobs.
He did something live once and put you
on the air accidentally.
Oh, no, no, hold on, hold on.
That was, that was not an accident.
What Steve Jobs did with my podcast was
on purpose.
He knew exactly what he was doing.
Okay, well, then it was rigged.
That was rigged too.
Whatever the case.
Yeah.
These things, I can go back and there's
demos of these machines they used to bring
in.
They were talking about the 1980s.
It was 40 years ago.
Yeah.
They would bring a machine out.
It would do all this stuff.
They have a big screen.
It would be doing this and that.
And it was rigged to some Unix system
down the street.
It wasn't even anything close to being realistic.
These demos are all phony.
Yeah, pretty much all of them are.
Well, I see this all the time in
the AI demos, like Google's day and all
these other things.
You're like, oh, well, it'll work better in
the product we're rolling out on Monday.
Don't worry, we'll fix that.
Yeah, right.
None of this, none of this works.
Tomorrow it'll be fine.
None of this works.
I have one of my streaming stations that
I had in the prompt very clearly up
to and including but not after December 6th
mentioned this Christmas concert.
And of course, December 7th.
Oh, make sure you catch the Christmas concert
on December 6th after it just said it
was December 7th because there's no intelligence in
these things.
So, A, it makes the mistake of not
following my direction.
And B, it's not smart enough to figure
out that it makes no sense.
And that's Gemini.
Gemini.
So good.
Gemini's supposed to be one of the more
gentle ones.
Well, you heard about the Gemini, didn't you?
No, I don't follow it.
Ah, here, I got the Gemini for you.
Here is your Secretary of War.
The future of American warfare is here.
Here.
And it's spelled AI.
As technologies.
And it's spelled AI.
So I think it's warfare, like a, like
Vanity Fair.
Warfare, maybe.
It's spelled AI.
The future of American warfare is here.
And it's spelled AI.
As technologies advance, so do our adversaries.
But here at the War Department, we are
not sitting idly by.
Under the leadership of President Trump, America will
lead the charge on this technological transformation by
revolutionizing the way we win.
And that's why today we are unleashing GenAI
.mil. This platform puts the world's most powerful
frontier AI models, starting with Google Gemini, directly
into the hands of every American warrior.
At the click of a button, AI models
on GenAI can be utilized to conduct deep
research, format documents, and even analyze video or
imagery at unprecedented speed.
Whoa, it can format documents.
Building on the great work of Undersecretary Emile
Michael and his team, we will continue to
aggressively field the world's best technology to make
our fighting force more lethal than ever before.
And all of it is American-made.
Hands up, Chinaman.
I'm formatting a document.
The possibilities with AI are endless.
Now, let's get to work.
Hold on a second.
Stop it.
Ooh, ooh.
Did you hear that?
No.
He's got a little, he's got, listen to
the end, he's got a little Department of
War sound effect.
The possibilities with AI are endless.
Now, let's get to work.
Ooh, I gotta use this.
There's a bomb going off, a bomb went
off.
I gotta use this.
Nice.
This is too subtle.
GenAI.mil, I can't get to it.
No, it'll say that you're, if you go
to GenAI.mil, it'll say that you're not
on a DOW network.
It doesn't even do that.
Oh, oh, it did it for me.
So I got the email from everybody, from
the Secretary of War, which was kind of
the same, but he says, the first Gen
AI platform capability is Google Gemini, a frontier
AI application that can help you write documents.
Wow, we're winning.
Ask questions.
We can actually write documents with AI.
Well, that's going to be very useful for
people who can't read or write coming out
of college.
Conduct deep research, format content.
Wow.
And unlock new possibilities across your daily workflows.
Gemini is the first of several enterprise AI
applications that will be rolled out on the
Gen AI platform.
It is secure, certified up to impact level
five.
So if a bomb hits and is fully
authorized to handle CUI, whatever, confidential something, I
expect every member of the War Department to
log in, learn it, and incorporate it into
your workflows immediately.
AI should be in your battle rhythm every
single day.
Battle rhythm.
The what?
Battle rhythm?
Yes, should be in your battle rhythm every
single day.
Like when you're dancing, you're dancing around at
the DoD.
It should be your team.
Gemini's keeping the beat?
What does this mean?
It should be your teammate.
By mastering this tool, we will outpace our
adversaries in document formatting.
The power.
While you're creating a wealth of paperwork, long,
lengthy memos that could have been shortened by
somebody who actually knows how to write.
This is from our insider.
Here's the email from Pete Hegseth that went
out to everyone this morning about their Google
Gemini AI called genai.mil. It crashed as
soon as everyone noticed the icon.
After this happened, it was forced on, oh,
after this was forced onto everyone's devices this
morning.
Oh no.
I'm not teaching our customers how to use
this when they can't get the basics of
Teams and SharePoint down.
Overall, this was a complete failure on the
Department of War end of turning this on.
Yeah, that's right.
Of course not.
Now, people get confused even by the new,
you know, I heard several people.
Oh, Instagram changed everything.
Oh, I don't know how to use it
anymore.
What?
Yes, Instagram changed everything.
It's horrible.
Instagram is rolling out a new feature designed
to give users more say on what they
see in the app.
And Good Morning America got an exclusive first
look.
Your algorithm lets you curate what you see
in your feed, starting with real.
Curate.
It lets you curate.
Curate, not curate, curate.
Exclusive first look.
Your algorithm lets you curate what you see
in your feed, starting with real.
Starting today, users will see a new icon
in the top right corner.
Clicking it will take you to a dashboard
of your top interests based on what you
engage with most.
From there, you can tell the app which
topics you want to see more of and
which you want to see less of.
Instagram says this will give users the power
to take action in real time to improve
their overall experience in the app.
No, it'll give Instagram and Meta more information
about you, you dopes.
Yeah, because they're going to give you what
they think you're going to like anyway.
Yeah.
But they want to see what you think
you like so they can add that to
the profile.
Exactly.
In Palantir.
Yeah, you're exactly right.
It's just a spying tool.
And they're going to put it into Palantir
and then they're going to nuke us all.
It's always Palantir.
You just have to always say Palantir.
Black helicopter.
Oh man.
That's hilarious.
You want to stick with AI because there
was a great AI interview with Stephanopoulos.
I'm glad to see.
Yeah, I think we can do that.
Okay.
Because there's other stuff going on.
But.
Yeah, we'll get to the other stuff.
But we might as well do this.
All right.
The guy's name is Nate Suarez.
I think Suarez.
Suarez or Suarez.
Well, it's S-O-A-R-E-S.
I think it's Suarez.
Suarez, I think.
He is the president of the Machine Intelligence
Research Institute.
Which you and I could have come up
with.
Yeah, I like it.
It's a non-profit research institute focused on
ensuring the development of safe and beneficial artificial
intelligence.
Okay.
He was on the ABCs.
Just over three years since the launch of
chat GPT stunned the world and catapulted artificial
intelligence into the mainstream.
I love this read.
I'm already completely jacked up and excited about
what's about to happen.
AI revolution.
Artificial intelligence.
Artificial intelligence or AI.
That technological revolution now sparking a growing divide.
Divide.
Sounding the alarm.
Sometime in the next 20 years, these things
will get smarter than us.
And we really need to worry about what
happens then.
And others touting AI's potential.
The best case scenario is that AI diffuses
into everything that we do.
Everything's more efficient.
But as artificial intelligence gets smarter by the
day, the federal government has struggled to keep
up in the last few months.
What do you mean?
We can format documents.
Hello, we're not struggling.
It's in our battle rhythm, pal.
Yeah, we're, yeah.
President Donald Trump welcoming tech luminaries to the
White House and setting ambitious AI goals.
America is the country that started the AI
race.
America is going to win it.
Trump rolling back Biden era AI regulations and
installing entrepreneur and tech investor David Sachs as
his AI and cryptocurrencies are.
It's really the job of government to enable
the private sector and get the red tape
out of the way.
And the president pressuring Republicans in Congress to
pass legislation prohibiting states and local governments from
regulating artificial intelligence.
I thought he already did that.
I thought that was in the one big,
beautiful, dynamic, fantastic, amazing bill.
I don't think it was.
Oh.
In any way, warning over regulation is threatening
to undermine this growth engine.
A flurry of bills have been proposed, but
not a single piece of notable AI regulation
has ever cleared the House or Senate, despite
some members expressing mounting concerns.
Can I get hired if I can talk
like this on ABC?
Because it's just so incredibly engaging.
A super intelligent AI could replace human beings
in controlling the planet.
AI companies stress while risks for the technology
exist, they say the potential benefits are nearly
limitless, and that they're constantly improving their algorithms
to improve interactions.
Meanwhile, Congress seems stymied.
The fair is, if you regulate it, you
slow it down.
If you don't regulate it, you have people
that could get hurt.
Ooh, they're going to get hurt?
Well, this guy who's with Stephanopoulos is a
real piece of work.
You're going to love him.
Thanks to Jay for that.
We're joined now by Nate Soares, co-author
of the new book, If Anyone Builds It,
Everyone Dies, Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us
All.
Wow.
Great title, by the way.
It's a great title.
That's the price of admission right there.
You know, it should have had an endorsement.
Read this book, John C.
Dvorak.
Yes.
Mr. Soares, thank you for joining us.
I'd definitely plug that book.
Of course.
This morning, I want to start out with
a summary of your thesis that you write
in your book.
I'm going to put it up on the
screen.
Yes.
If any company or group anywhere on the
planet builds an artificial superintelligence using anything remotely
like current techniques based on anything remotely like
the present understanding of AI, then everyone everywhere
on Earth will die.
That is about as stark a warning as
you can possibly get.
Can you spell it out for us and
tell us why you believe that?
You know, I wish it was fiction, but
the way that we make AIs today is
like growing an organism.
I like this.
We should start using AIs.
Don't just say AI, but AIs, like their
thing, like their living, breathing thing.
AIs.
Yes.
I think the reason for the plural is
because he's referring to the different versions.
Oh, yeah.
No, I understand.
But you could say large language models.
You can say, but he's saying AIs, like
they're an entity.
It's just, it's subtle.
We're all going to die.
Thanks to Jay for that.
Oops, sorry.
Let me get back to our guy here.
Here he is.
I wish it was fiction, but the way
that we make AIs today is more like
growing an organism than it is like carefully
crafting a piece of traditional software.
The AIs we make, they have the very
beginnings now of goals or objectives, or so
it seems.
We don't really know what's going on inside
them.
They have the very beginnings of goals and
objectives that we didn't try to give them.
They have emergent behavior that their operators never
intended.
Oh, yeah.
Listen to his examples.
In lab scenarios, we've already seen them sometimes
try to escape the lab or blackmail the
operators.
The old blackmail.
That's a lie.
Bullcrap stories designed to get attention.
And this guy, if he buys that, then
he's no good.
But this is a classic example of somebody
who's suckered by the memes.
But he's on ABC with Stephanopoulos and we're
doing a podcast.
So, you know.
Yeah, he's getting attention, obviously.
They're too dumb right now for that to
work.
But if we keep rushing to make AIs
that are smarter and smarter to the point
where these sorts of things succeed, then the
most likely outcome is they become much more
powerful than us.
They pursue goals nobody intended, nobody wanted.
And the most likely outcome of that is
that we die.
Not because the AIs hate us, but because
they are utterly indifferent.
It would be sort of like ants under
a skyscraper.
Will be like ants under a skyscraper crushed
by the AIs.
And of course, Stephanopoulos is all in on
it.
As you know, many of your critics have
said this is more like science fiction than
science.
One of the problems with Stephen Marsh, for
example, in the New York Times, pointed out
is he haven't fully defined your terms like
intelligence or super intelligence.
He says the book reads like a Scientology
manual.
So why don't you start out by defining
that artificial super intelligence that you're so worried
about?
Now listen to this, because the guy totally
slammed Stephanopoulos.
Yeah, we do actually define the terms in
the book.
If he had read, I think it's in
chapter one.
Thanks for interviewing me, you douche.
It's in the book.
It's chapter one.
But OK.
Thanks.
Why would he?
Of course.
We define artificial super intelligence as an AI
that is better than the best humans at
every mental task.
Oh, that means better than President Trump because
he's the best human.
He had an MRI.
He aces all the tests.
So he aces everything.
That's not the sort of AI we have
today.
But the AIs of today, many people's only
experience with AI is chat GPT.
It's just as crappy as all of the
other ones.
People who have been in the field of
AI understand that the field of AI is
a moving target.
That sometimes people come up with insights, come
up with new ways of doing AI that
unlock whole new domains of AI like chat
GPT and the large language models of today.
One of the big questions is what happens
when there's new insights?
What happens when there's new breakthroughs?
These companies are rushing to make AIs that
are smarter than every human.
And once we get these super intelligent AIs,
I think the most likely outcome is that
they don't do exactly as the humans say.
So what I kind of like about it
is he's saying they're dumb because they are,
you know, all of this super intelligence, super
GROK 5-9, chat GPT 2.000. It's
all better, it's faster.
All we get is the same dumb lady
talking to you.
What else can I do for you today?
And I know you're saying you're agnostic on
exactly how the extinction would happen, but just
lay out one possibility.
Extinction.
Lay out a scenario so I can write
the movie.
You know the one easy way for an
AI to take out humanity would be a
virus.
A virus.
They're going to take us out with a
virus.
How's he going to do that?
Well, he'll explain.
As you say, I'm not sure exactly how
it would happen.
It's a little bit like trying to predict
a football game between an NFL team and
a high school team.
It's hard to predict the plays.
It's easy to predict the winner.
The sort of real question here is something
like, what will the AIs be pursuing?
Will they do exactly what the operators say?
And we're already seeing the very beginnings of
evidence that the answer is no, just like
theory has predicted for years.
Do you see any evidence that anyone is
doing anything to control this?
A lot of the optimists about AI say
that you can calibrate the systems internally.
People are trying to control these AIs.
Yeah, to get them to do something useful
besides format a document.
The type of work that people tend to
do tends to fall into evaluation metrics, trying
to see how dangerous the AIs currently are,
and interoperability research, which is trying to understand
what is going on inside the AIs.
With any other technology, like with a nuclear
reactor, if you ask people, how do you
know you're going to be able to make
this not melt down?
And they said, well, we have two teams,
one who is trying to figure out what's
going on inside there, and another saying, we're
measuring whether it's currently exploding.
You might not be very confident that these
people are on track to do the job
properly.
Oh, brother.
We're all going to die!
Well, that was a bad analogy.
It's a horrible analogy.
I've got 30 seconds left from this jamoke.
How much time do we have?
Oh, no!
We're all going to die!
You know, the timing is very hard to
call.
Yeah.
Oh, but wait a minute, he could pick
the football winner.
Yeah, easily.
He knows who's going to win.
Could be that next year, the AIs will
still be pretty dumb, but they'll be just
barely smart enough to make smarter AIs that
make smarter AIs that make smarter AIs.
Oh, okay.
Oh, please.
We're not going to get into that.
This is the opposite of entropy.
Okay.
And then things could go very quickly.
It could be that it takes 10 years.
It could be that the current AIs stay
kind of dumb, and it takes 10 years
to have some new breakthrough that unlocks new
AIs, like last breakthroughs, like previous breakthroughs, unlock
chat GPT.
Mr. Suarez, thanks very much for your time
this morning.
We're all going to die!
You actually kind of nailed it with that
one little comment, which is it's a violation
of the laws of physics.
The entropy is what happens all the time.
Yes, it's not like it's only going to
get worse.
AI will make a worse AI, not a
better AI.
It's always going to degrade.
Yeah, it has to deteriorate like everything else
does.
So they're going against the very laws of
nature, Mr. Beale.
None of this works.
There's a reference nobody gets.
Yeah, a few will get it.
Meanwhile...
We never explain it, by the way.
We're never going to.
We even have an end of show makes
we've played from it, Mr. Beale.
I'm sure we have.
Let me see.
Beale.
Maybe not.
I can't.
I'm looking at my clip list.
This is terrible.
I have a bunch of clips called Untitled.
And I was like, what is John doing?
He doesn't want me to see the titles
because, you know, that was I have to
go review that on the slide here to
see what that really was.
And then I have climate spelled VLIMET.
That is going to keep you busy for
hours.
But you know what it is?
It's I love it.
I love it.
If I didn't have that, I think the
A.I.s had taken over you.
So now at least I know.
I mean, I usually go back and try
to fix the spelling errors on these on
these clip names.
Like I got Iceland.
I-C-E-K-A-N-D for
Iceland.
Meanwhile, just sticking with A.I., short little
notice.
The European Commission launched a probe into Google
over its use of online content to power
its A.I. services.
The investigation will examine whether Google use web
publishers content to provide generative A.I. services
on its search result pages without appropriate compensation
and without giving them the option to refuse.
It will also assess whether videos uploaded on
YouTube are used to train Google's generative A
.I. models.
According to the tech giant, the complaint could
hinder innovation in a market that is more
competitive than ever.
Yeah, you bet it will.
These lawsuits are coming fast and furious.
Well, I'm part of one of them.
I know, thanks to Rob, our constitutional lawyer.
He hooked you up, right?
Told you where to go.
Yeah, yeah, we got in on that.
We have to fill another series of forms.
Yet, I have 27 book titles in my
name, believe it or not.
Wow, that's a lot.
I know, it should be listed.
Somebody should list those on the Wikipedia.
Let's see if it's in Grokopedia.
It won't be.
It has to be listed somewhere as a
whole.
We haven't done that.
So, and they want, it's like, it would
be $3,000 a book if they can,
if there's any connection.
And I think probably at least half of
them.
But the thing is, of course, I'm going
to need the money with the kind of
donations we're getting for this show.
Just thought I'd throw that in.
You're going to wind up with 75 bucks.
No, usually a buck 50.
I mean, it's just that these class actions,
but they're claiming.
But I'm sure there'll be other suits coming
up.
I mean, yeah, it's a winner for anyone
who has any kind of, well, if you're
a big copyright owner.
The music business is just getting started.
But just as a reminder, Silicon Valley doesn't
think about that.
Their model is you give us everything, we'll
give you nothing, and we'll take all the
money.
Yeah, that's a good model.
If you're on that side of it, it's
a great model.
Just to remind everybody, here's the Microsoft CEO
of AI, Mustafa Suleiman.
With respect to content that is already on
the open web, the social contract of that
content since the 90s has been that it
is fair use.
Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce
with it.
That has been freeware, if you like.
That's been the understanding.
There's a separate category where a website or
a publisher or a news organization had explicitly
said, do not scrape or crawl me for
any other reason than indexing me so that
other people can find that content.
That's a gray area.
And I think that's going to work its
way through the courts.
So if I find a Microsoft Windows 12
on the web, it's okay for me to
download that and use it, I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
It says everyone understands that it's fair use.
It's unwritten.
Just unwritten understanding.
If you said don't scrape me, that's a
gray area.
Gray.
I didn't see anything on the Windows download
that said don't download me.
Didn't say that.
No.
I think the best though, and then we'll
wrap up technology for today.
By the way, that commentary, that guy should
be fired.
I'm sure he's still there.
Oh, I'm sure he is.
But that, I mean, he's an idiot.
I'm sure he got in someone's head.
You're an idiot.
Why'd you say that?
But he's like, isn't it true?
Isn't it true?
Those people believe that.
He probably thinks it's true.
I mean, you can get to the point
in these situations where you start believing your
own public relations.
Oh, that happened with Windows 95.
That's when they started believing their own PR.
Here is the latest though, which I thought
was kind of interesting, semi-related to technology
and immigration and visitors.
Well, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection
has proposed this major expansion of the information
required for an ESTA application, which is used
by tourists from those visa waiver program countries.
That means countries where travelers can stay in
the U.S. up to 90 days without
needing to get a visa.
Now, for the last few years, there's been
an option to include your social media handles
on those applications.
But under this proposed change, which still has
not gone into law yet, that would now
become mandatory and people's profiles would have to
be made public meaning that officers could comb
through up to five years of data that
people have posted online.
They're also going to be asking in this
application for phone numbers and email addresses used
within the last five years, as well as
names, dates of birth, places of birth, residences
and telephone numbers of immediate family members as
well.
Now, the process will also move away from
the website that CBP has and move to
a mobile app, which will mean that features
like passport chip verification and mandatory live selfie
check and facial recognition will all now be
able to be used as well.
It's worth noting, though, that these changes are
already in effect for anyone looking to get
an immigrant class visa to the U.S.
or anyone coming here on a work or
study visa.
But this marks a noted shift from the
administration with regular tourists from typically allied nations
now coming under increased scrutiny.
According to one immigration law office, the kind
of things that officials are looking for include
expressions of hostility towards the U.S. government,
comments interpreted as support for extremist groups, online
affiliations with flagged organizations, as well as inconsistencies
between online content and submitted application materials.
But really, the scope for what is considered
against U.S. interests is what is concerning
some groups now.
You know, I have conflicting thoughts about this.
I want to follow up that clip with
some clips and then can you bring in
your thoughts then?
Okay, I'm sure it's all relevant.
Because I want you to play this clip
so you can hear the word terrorist.
The clip is terrorist.
I don't see the clip terrorist.
Did you read?
Oh, there it is.
Yeah, I got it.
Tourist.
What was that?
Tourist.
Terrorist.
Tourist.
Terrorist.
Tourist.
Sounds like terrorist.
Okay, you're hearing tourist.
Because I heard this clip from the BBC
and the first thing I thought was tourist
or terrorist, not tourist.
But okay, let's go with tourist proposal BBC.
This is their coverage of the same topic.
Tourists from dozens of countries seeking to visit
the United States could be asked to provide
a five-year social media history as a
condition of entry.
The proposal would affect people who are eligible
to visit without a visa under the ESTA
scheme.
Tom Bateman reports from Washington.
Under the new proposals, it would become mandatory
for applicants to supply details of social media
accounts used in the last five years, as
well as when feasible, say officials, phone numbers,
email addresses, and names of family members, as
well as other details.
The changes are still only proposals put out
for consultation by the Department of Homeland Security,
but are intended to fulfill the Trump administration's
demands for far more stringent border and immigration
procedures.
Okay.
Tourist.
And here's the second.
The longer version is this one where he
says terrorist.
Tourists from dozens of countries.
See?
He's saying terrorists.
Tourists from dozens of countries.
I think, is he saying Tourettes maybe?
Tourettes, Tourettes.
Tourists from dozens of countries worldwide, including Britain,
Australia, and Japan could be required to hand
over five years worth of their social media
history before traveling to the United States under
a new proposal from American officials.
The rule would apply to visitors from nations
that can currently enter the U.S. for
up to 90 days without a visa.
The plans were outlined in a document filed
by U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
U.S. State Department correspondent Tom Bateman has
more.
It all stems from an executive order that
was signed by Donald Trump the day he
came into office on the 20th of January,
which is all about basically the administration's desire
to radically strengthen border and immigration procedures.
And I'd say that's sort of been injected
with more vigor by Marco Rubio, the Secretary
of State.
And we've seen really a sort of process
of certain visa types being identified and then
far more stringent procedures coming in, including in
many cases, this real focus on social media
accounts and having, you know, the requirement to
put down your social media account names for
the last five years and to keep those
accounts open, if the accounts are put on
private mode or closed, that will count against
you.
So here's where I'm conflicted.
On one hand, I'm like, people should be
able to say whatever they want to say.
You know, who cares?
Be quiet, just do your thing.
You know, this is almost bordering on thought
crime.
So I can see that side of it.
But on the other hand, there are two
in particular, two Brits, one who lives in
the UK, one who lives in Australia, who
are part of the Podcasting 2.0 group.
And I like them.
I've never had dinner at their house, but
I'd say we're friends.
But both of them are always posting snide
remarks like, sadly in Trump's America, brown-skinned
immigrants are said not to add any value.
But all of their business, all of their
business is in the United States.
They come to conferences here, they're selling, their
market is here.
And whenever I see that- And all
they do is bitch and moan.
And like, well, if America would do their
job with Section 230 and just remove it,
we wouldn't have these problems.
I'm like, well, why don't you- Is
that the same guy with that voice?
It's all the same person.
Stay home, you blimey.
You know, so I'm also, and I think
- It'd be you limey, not you blimey.
What did I say, blimey?
Blimey, you said you blimey.
It's December 12th, blimey.
December 12th, blimey.
You know, and so on that hand, I'm
like, well, shut up.
Then don't come here.
Don't be looking for venture capital here.
Don't be doing any of that.
You know, so my red, white, and blue
kind of gets activated.
Yeah, you get riled up by these foreigners
bitching and moaning about the United States and
expecting us to pay the bills.
The terrorists, the terrorists, all of them.
Terrorists.
So what do you, how do you feel
about it?
I think it's going to go nowhere.
It's too complicated.
It's too difficult to do.
It's bullcrap.
It's just bullcrap.
It's just more chumming in the water to
Trump.
Oh, let's do this and see what happens.
It's chumming in the water.
You're probably right.
I just, I fell for it.
Hook, line, and sinker.
I fell for it.
All right.
You and everybody else.
Speaking of hook, line, and sinker, let's talk
about the big boat.
The big, beautiful boat that we seized.
Do you have any clips on that?
I do, as a matter of fact.
Why don't you kick it off?
Well, you caught me off flat footing because
I have to now look at this ridiculously
long list.
Of untitled?
Of clips.
Untitled clips.
To figure out what clip it is.
Let me see.
I can probably figure it out.
Oil tanker.
Oil tanker BS.
You think oil tanker would be it?
Yes, maybe.
Just a thought.
The Trump administration says the U.S. has
seized a tanker off the coast of Venezuela.
Attorney General Pam Bondi posted on social media
that the U.S. executed a seizure warrant
because the tanker was transporting sanctioned oil from
Venezuela to Iran.
Bondi says the tanker is part of an
illegal oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations.
Terrorists.
Terrorists or tourists.
Okay, so that clip immediately brought to mind
a simple question which, and I could get
this clip from 10 sources and they all
avoid the simple question.
Iran's an oil producing country.
Why are they importing oil from Venezuela for
that they don't need it?
They're in excess.
They're making more oil than they can use.
So why are they importing it?
I ask you.
Well, this was, I'm not sure exactly.
The whole thing is, you know, first of
all, I'm thinking like, how does this even
work?
They just grab ships.
So they dropped a chopper down on it.
That was pretty cool.
I mean, I have to say though, the
Houthis did a better helicopter ship seizing video.
Yeah, they had them rappelling down onto the
deck.
Remember the Houthis?
Yeah, the phony, that was AI or something.
That was great.
It was pretty exciting.
Use your gen i.mil to sex these
up a little bit, Hegseth.
But interestingly enough, there was on CNN our
boy Anderson Pooper who had, well, first of
all, here's the story.
And then he had an analyst on who
I thought was quite good and enlightening.
We begin tonight with new video.
The Trump administration's latest move against Venezuela.
Attorney General Pam Bondi put it out this
evening.
Shows American forces boarding an oil tanker coming
down lines from hovering choppers making their way
to the bridge and seizing control of the
vessel.
Quoting from the attorney general's social media post.
Today, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Homeland Security
Investigations and the U.S. Coast Guard with
support from the Department of War executed a
seizure warrant for a crude oil tanker used
to transport sanctioned oil from Venezuela and Iran.
And Iran.
Not, oh, and Iran.
Well, that's a different way of, the story
goes differently.
Yes, and Iran.
So this tanker is, okay, this tanker is
filled with oil from Venezuela and sometimes Iran.
So this tanker is a rogue tanker out
there moving oil.
Yes, it's the tanker.
It's not necessarily where the oil is from.
It's the fact that it's a rogue tanker.
And remember, there's a new sheriff in town,
everybody.
Western Hemisphere.
That's in our strategic defense document.
We are in charge of this.
A senior U.S. official tells CNN it
had Venezuelan- I hope that they do
explain if it's just a rogue tanker moving
oil around where it's going to.
Yeah, there's a lot of explanation, actually.
Oh, okay, well, I'm going to stop.
Official tells CNN it had Venezuelan crude on
board, was sailing in international waters, and known
was injured in the boarding operation.
Now the video came out just a short
time after this from the president setting the
stage.
As you probably know, we've just seized a
tanker on the coast of Venezuela.
It was big, large, very large.
Largest one ever.
Biggest ever.
Largest ever.
And other things are happening.
So you'll be seeing that later and you'll
be talking about that later with some other
people.
Well, he said the tanker was seized, quote,
for very good reason.
And when asked what would happen to the
oil, he replied, we keep it, I guess.
Late today, the Venezuelan government called the seizure,
a quote, act of international piracy, calling it
a quote, deliberate plan to plunder our energy
resources.
Venezuela's leader, Nicolas Maduro, also weighed in shortly
before the president announced the operation.
Our message to the people of the United
States remains the same.
Peace.
Peace above all else.
No to crazy war.
No to bloodshed for oil.
No to war for oil.
The recipe for eternal years.
Yeah, there's not going to be any war.
And he brought on an analyst who I
think Pooper was even disappointed.
Like, oh, really?
Oh, crap.
Joining us now is CNN Global Affairs Analyst,
Brett McGurk.
Brett, what stands out to you about this,
how this tanker was seized?
What's interesting about this, Anderson, and look, I
agree with Adam Smith.
The administration owes transparency on what is going
on in Venezuela.
We have a quarter of our naval deployed
assets off the coast.
We have carrier strike groups, amphibious assault ships.
But this action, from what I can tell,
is actually kind of by the book.
This ship, Anderson, was actually sanctioned by the
Treasury Department in 2022.
So in the Biden administration, there was a
warrant issued by a federal court about two
weeks ago for civil forfeiture action.
And when that happens, and this happened in
the Biden administration, I was a part of
some of these, the Justice Department, from intelligence,
you might be able to find the ship,
the Justice Department will say, can we seize
this ship?
Is there a way to do it?
There might be foreign policy implications.
But we've done this in the past.
And this ship was actually implicated for smuggling
Iranian oil to benefit the Islamic Revolutionary Guards
Corps under U.S. criminal authorities.
So if that's what happened here, this is
actually not totally out of the ordinary.
And I would not categorize this the same
as the kinetic strikes against the narco boats,
which is very novel and raises serious questions.
So it's the ship.
It's not about the oil.
It's about the ship.
And it seems like there's a lot of
them.
So you don't think this is part-
You don't think Trump is horrible?
Like he's a horrible orange man doing things
and taking us into war?
Like my friend Dave Smith says?
So you don't think this is part of
a larger U.S. pressure campaign on Maduro?
Or is that, could it be both?
Well, it could be both.
I think definitely, look, from what I can
see, we're kind of in unprecedented territory.
So it can be both.
But the authorities used today were congressionally mandated
authorities.
This ship was sanctioned under Iranian-related authorities.
There was a warrant by a U.S.
federal court.
So this seems to have been done, as
you would want something like this to be
done, legally with authorization from independent branches of
government.
In this case, the judicial branch.
Again, we've done this.
We did one in 2023, a ship called
the Suez Regime.
We seized the oil, was then forfeited by
a U.S. federal court.
It becomes property of the U.S. government.
That seems to be what's happening right now.
I would want to see over the coming
days and weeks, are we seizing every ship
that comes out of Venezuela under other authorities
or questionable authorities or no authorities?
But in this case, with this ship, with
this network, part of a vast ghost fleet,
Anderson, there's about a thousand of these ships,
Iranian, Russian, and Venezuelan, that is kind of
a cat and mouse game that goes on
all around the world.
Yeah, so these ship companies have got to
be freaked by this.
The global dark fleet is 1,423 tankers,
of which 921 are under sanctions, according to
Reuters.
Oh, we'll just be grabbing these left and
right, especially for, first of all, the way
you do it now, a shipment in a
classic small tank or the kind that you
see commonly is worth $38 million.
Oh, this definitely hurts.
The big tankers, the big boys, they're the
super tankers, which I'm sure they're going to
grab those.
Largest ever.
The big monsters, you have $200 million worth
of oil in those things.
So you're taking a lot of money off
them.
This is not a minor amount of money.
And so what you do is you let
the tankers go fill up.
You don't take an empty tanker.
No, you don't take an empty tanker.
That would be crazy.
No, you let them fill up somewhere.
Yeah.
And then you grab them and then you
move that oil into one of the refineries
in Texas.
Yes.
And in the Gulf, you just move it
over there.
Here you go, boys.
Here's a free tanker full of oil.
It's not going to cost you a nickel.
And yeah, that's the way to go.
It's a great way to lower prices.
It's called piracy, but it's legal.
Yeah.
And I'm all for it because what this
is doing is pressure, putting more pressure on
the true evil behind all of this, who,
of course, run Venezuela because let's not pretend
Venezuela is some sad little state with some
sad little man singing John Lennon songs.
I mean, there's a lot of things happening
in Venezuela.
And I actually got these two clips of
Dennis Small.
Have you ever heard of him?
He works for the Executive Intelligence Review.
No.
Well, he received an award from the Journalist
Club of Mexico.
Oh, he did?
Well, there you go.
That means he didn't get killed.
Instant bestseller.
And so I've always thought that the whole
fleet right off the coast of Venezuela, yeah,
we're getting the drug boats.
What happens is you blow a drug boat
and then everyone starts to chatter.
You got phone calls, ham radio, text messages,
Lord knows what they're using.
And the signals are now being received and
everything's being mapped out by the ships that
are offshore.
That makes the most sense to me.
Like, let's figure out where everything's going.
So this is not, by any stretch of
the imagination, the number one entry into the
United States of drugs.
But Dennis Small explains some stuff to us.
The amount of drugs that flow from Venezuela,
as previous speakers have indicated, are not the
problem.
The flow of drugs into the United States,
this is a map produced by the UNODC,
the United Nations Organization for Drugs and Crime.
It is the international grouping.
The DEA statistics indicate the same thing, that
looking at the trafficking of cocaine, which is
the main drug trafficked from the Andean countries
to the United States, 74% goes through
the eastern Pacific vector into Mexico, a very
small percentage, 8% from Venezuela.
Do some drugs leave from Venezuela?
Of course.
There's not a country in the world where
this doesn't happen.
Second point on drugs.
Most of the drugs do not enter the
United States by illegal migrants swimming across the
Rio Grande or by fast boats dashing across
the Caribbean.
It's not true.
According to the DEA's own statistics and CBP,
the Customs and Border Patrol, 90% of
the heroin seized coming into the United States,
88% of the cocaine seized coming into
the United States, and 84% of the
methadone, methamphetamine, sorry, coming into the United States
comes across the official border crossings, the ports
of entry, in trailers, in buses, in trucks,
in cars, in big rigs.
Those are the official reports from the DEA
itself.
It makes total sense to me because this
is not about the enormous seizures.
It's about figuring out who's connected to what.
And Dennis Small explains that in this second
short clip.
This does not have anything to do with
drugs.
Drugs is a $1 trillion yearly business run
by an international cartel, which we have called
Dope Incorporated.
It's not the Cali cartel.
It's not the Sinaloa cartel.
It is the City of London and Wall
Street financial cartel.
It's $1 trillion a year.
It's the major banks.
If you want to stop drugs, you have
to stop drug money laundering, which is at
the heart of the whole thing.
Exactly.
Ah, you're old.
You come up with clips to prove your
thesis.
Well, that's what I do.
It's not chicken shit.
I never do such a thing.
Oh, no.
But the thing is, there's no coincidence in
what just happened.
I know you have a clip as well,
so I'll play my intro clip of what
just happened regarding Venezuela.
This was the moment Maria Corina Machado reappeared
after 11 months in hiding and a journey
shrouded in secret.
Below her Oslo hotel balcony, supporters gathered to
sing the Venezuelan national anthem.
And they were soon joined by Machado, who
scrambled over a barrier to speak to them.
Venezuela's opposition leader had been laying low since
January, but defying a travel ban, she flew
to the Norwegian capital, where hours earlier, her
daughter had accepted the Nobel Peace Prize on
her behalf.
Machado didn't make it in time to receive
the award in person.
Instead, her daughter stepped in and delivered her
mother's speech, in which Machado vowed to continue
the struggle of the Venezuelan people.
What we Venezuelans can offer the world is
the lesson forged through this long and difficult
journey, that to have democracy, we must be
willing to fight for freedom.
Machado accuses Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro of stealing
the country's 2024 presidential election.
Before she arrived, in a voice message, she
thanked those who had helped her leave Venezuela
to travel to Oslo.
After her Peace Prize win back in October,
Machado made a point of praising US President
Donald Trump, who has intensified his pressure campaign
on Maduro in recent months with shows of
military force.
She said she supports using force to overthrow
Maduro's government and has already vowed to return
to Venezuela.
This is not a coincidence, this timing.
It never is.
She's showing up.
There's, of course, it's all intended to put
pressure on Maduro on the financial side, if
anything.
Hey, we got your expenses.
Someone's getting that money.
That's going somewhere.
It has to be sent through something.
I heard a statistic that the drug cartel
owns something like 12,000 homes throughout Europe.
Well, it's a good investment.
It's a great investment.
I have, I'm approaching this from a different
perspective because there's propaganda in here besides the
fact that what you've noticed.
I have an Ask Adam.
Oh, hold on a second.
Oh, I didn't even see that.
Oh boy.
Okay.
Now, the Ask Adam Peace Prize clip.
Yes.
Is that the one you want me to
go for?
Yeah, I want you to play that, not
the ISO, but the Peace Prize clip.
And I want you to see if you
can spot the anomaly.
Okay.
Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Carina Machado misses the
Nobel Peace Prize ceremony, but has secretly made
it out of the country and is on
her way to Oslo.
As soon as I arrive, I will be
able to embrace all my family and my
children that I have not seen for two
years.
Ask Adam, Ask Adam, yeah.
Answer the question, go.
What's the question?
The question is, why did I clip the
wrong clip?
So let's go from there to...
That was the wrong clip?
That was the wrong Ask Adam clip?
Yeah.
Which is annoying because this is a really
good one.
Do you have the good one?
I don't know.
We're going to find out by playing the
Peace Prize girl BBC.
Okay.
I'm disappointed now.
That was...
I am too.
Yeah, you should be.
After you excoriated me.
I approach this from a different angle.
One that makes no sense.
Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Carina Machado misses the
Nobel Peace Prize ceremony, but has secretly made
it out of the country and is on
her way to Oslo.
As soon as I arrive, I will be
able to embrace all my family...
What?
That's the same clip.
Uh, so we don't get what...
The clip was they had...
They brought...
The daughter came out and she...
And the daughter came out and she gave
a little speech.
And they clipped the speech...
Then they clipped the speech and I...
The clip of the speech is where the...
Where the flub was and this is under
the ISO clip.
You can play it.
Ms. Machado also denounced kidnappings and torture under
Venezuela's president.
Listen again.
Ms. Machado also denounced kidnappings and torture under
Venezuela's president.
Denounced?
Denies.
Oh, I thought she says denounced.
Sounds like denounced.
Well, I thought she said denies.
Let's listen again.
Ms. Machado also denounced kidnappings and torture under
Venezuela's president.
Denounced makes sense.
I think she said terrorist.
Terrorist.
I'm sorry, my hearing...
I must have...
It must be right now at my age.
There's one frequency that's allowing me to hear
the wrong word very constantly.
Let's play the Peace Prize Analysis, BBC.
Alberto Parides from BBC Mundo told us more
about what the award meant for Venezuela.
This prize, it means a lot for many
Venezuelans in the opposition because Venezuelan people had
lost hope and this prize gives them something
that they did not have for many years.
They lost every single hope in 2019 when
the opposition leader, Juan Guaidó, failed to topple
the government.
Although she's still leading the opposition, her regular
time is spent in hiding.
Yes.
So she went into hiding in August last
year after the election that was held in
July.
She was part of the election and then
there were protests after the electoral council came
out and said that Maduro had won the
election.
But they did not provide any evidence to
support that claim.
But what the government didn't know was that
María Corina Machado was collecting the tallies and
she published them.
These tallies showed that the opposition leader, Edmundo
González, had actually won the election.
After many people went out to protest in
Caracas, more than 2,000 people were arrested.
They tried to arrest her as well.
She had to go into hiding.
So we have not seen her since January,
actually, this year when she came out for
the first time since August to take part
in a protest against the government.
Because Venezuelan opposition leaders who do fall into
the hands of the authorities, it can be
very dangerous.
Yes.
Well...
Yes.
I didn't know that aspect of it.
We just don't follow it that closely.
But I didn't realise that she had gone...
She was like an investigator.
She had gone and picked up the tallies
of all the districts reporting.
Yes.
And the numbers didn't match up with Maduro
winning and she published it.
Well, you recall that Venezuela is ground zero
of Smartmatic and Dominion and the software in
the electronic voting machines.
This is part of how this all started
to come up.
Yeah.
And it's like the sister of the guy
who owns the source code, which keeps changing
company hands and names to keep moving it
around.
He's vice president.
She's vice president to Maduro.
So all of this is all wrapped up
and it all came to a head, funny
enough, on Lindell TV.
Lindell TV.
Mike Lindell TV.
And they brought on Patrick Byrne.
And Patrick Byrne...
I didn't clip it because...
We've had clips from him before.
Yes.
Well, there's something new here.
And so he was going on and on.
They're talking about all these connections, how Venezuela
rigged our 2020 election through their software, which
is a little, I mean, I don't know
if Venezuela did it, but the software did
it.
Yeah, I don't think Venezuela did nothing.
But you know that Peace Prize girl, she
was talking to Trump, said, hey, you should
get the Peace Prize.
By the way, that Peace Prize looks exactly
like our Peace Prize, our International Peace Prize.
Jay did a great job.
Of copying it, yeah.
Yes.
Our art's a little different, but it's a
great job.
Yeah, well, that's a symbol for peace in
Japanese.
Oh, it looks like watercolor done by a
four-year-old, but it looks fantastic.
That's the style.
It's the style, yes.
What is that style?
Is that modernism?
Watercolor done by a four-year-old.
Style.
Just style.
And so, you know, they're going through all
that, and like, yeah, we pretty much know
that.
And then Patrick Byrne drops a bombshell that
we know that he worked with the FBI
to drop a bag of, what was it,
a couple million dollars on Hillary Clinton.
He's been through that before.
This is the guy who's the head of
overstock.com.
Was.
He resigned.
Was.
He resigned.
So listen to what he has now.
He's like a spook, but he's not really.
But I didn't know this.
This is new.
You just told us that you are CIA.
So how would you describe your role with
the CIA, which you haven't revealed before?
Well, again, I was telling the truth when
I said that I frequently was reminded that
you have a really nonstandard relationship.
It became kind of my mother relationship.
I had lots of relations across the government.
But eventually I went from there to by
2010, 2011, Obama became something called a tier
one intelligence asset.
And then in 2010, 2011, Obama elevated me
to national intelligence asset.
I was told I was going to be
the ace in the hole for all kinds
of, you know, for the real tough situations
from 2010, 20.
That was after working for Brennan for four
or five years.
And then I continued doing all that stuff
through 2016.
And all this crazy stuff happened that I've
told you about the, where I was set
up the Russian hoax.
That's why, I mean, I've talked around it
because I was trying to hide that.
But I've told you stories about how I
got drawn into setting up the Russian hoax
and the Hillary this and that.
It was a little bit of fibbing there.
I didn't want to explain the whole truth.
I was doing that.
I didn't just stumble into it.
I was their go to asset.
I was the national intelligence asset.
First, I got pulled under Brennan in 06.
And then 2011, I moved into the White
House.
That's why I got mixed up in the
Russian collusion and the Hillary stuff.
So first I'm thinking, wait a minute.
Does he know?
Was he deep inside the White House and
working under Brennan during the Russia hoax?
And is he saying this now because either
he doesn't want to get busted or he
wants to help?
And he's always been an FBI guy.
Now he was a CIA guy.
He was never an FBI guy.
He was a think.
He was like working for the CIA.
It sounds like he was working for the
CIA, but he was being used by the
FBI to create this situation.
But he wasn't literally working.
No, no, no, no.
He wasn't.
He says he was an asset.
Yeah.
And then all of a sudden.
By the way, we're surrounded by people like
this.
People out there should realize that.
Oh, but they donate to the show.
Not as much as they used to.
They used to donate more when we talked
about them.
What is the deal?
I don't know.
Step it up, boys and girls.
So then he goes into this whole thing
about the color revolution.
And I'm like, what?
Hold on a sec.
Why are you sharing this information now, Patrick?
As we're looking at Venezuela, we're talking about
our rigged elections.
It seems to me that you feel that
this is an important.
The people know why.
I've danced around long enough.
And it's not working.
And the regret of my life is.
Oh, stop it.
Stop the clip.
OK, so we can assume from the fact
that this guy's, you know, fully, fully read
in on everything that this is.
Whatever he's telling us now is has to
be bullcrap.
It's part of another scheme of some sort
that we're unaware of.
But he's going to play it out.
He's going to use use Olin Dell as
the go to as the as the middleman.
You're you're really good.
You caught it sooner than I did.
You're really good.
I have the payoff for that.
But first, we'll listen to him dancing around.
You're good.
You nailed it.
I've danced around long enough and it's not
working.
And the regret of my life is that
I spent the first Trump term trying to
dance around within my constraints.
Buffett said, Patrick, when I went to see
him, he was like my rabbi.
He said, Patrick, go on television and tell
everything.
And I just said I couldn't do that.
But I went and told enough trying to
shape.
And I've had enough.
We're having an insurrection.
We have an insurrection going on.
People calling, you know, these people calling.
You know, don't you hate how that they
say, well, we're not saying disobey Trump.
We're just saying that if he gives you
illegal orders, which is theoretically, then it's time
for you to disobey Trump.
So I want to tell people in the
military who I know watch your show that
theoretically, if you have officers, generals or colonels
who try to get you to take part
in a color revolution, please kill them for
us citizens.
Just shoot them in the face.
We'll appreciate it.
Theoretically.
Okay.
So what he's saying is the deep state
is organizing a color revolution, an insurrection against
us.
And I'm like, wow, okay.
And then the Lindell news host clears it
all up for us.
There's actually a docuseries that general Michael Flynn
produced about your life story.
And this will make more sense now that
you've shared this information.
If you go back and watch that docuseries.
This is Flynn again.
He, in fact, I mean, since he wrote
the book on psychological warfare, I'm now thinking
if you just keep saying that there's a
color revolution, you might actually spark one.
Or at best, you're going to.
So it's like a red scare.
The guy's running.
So Flynn is still running ops.
Yes.
For who?
The DIA?
It's it is military related.
It's military unclear, though.
So, for instance, when.
One of my contacts, you know, this may
be the one of the reasons you when
you met him that you had an uneasiness
to to the meeting.
That that was just my my radar.
Yeah, but yeah, but that's what you do.
That's your job.
Basically, just to be honest, my whole job.
I got to go around the country meeting
people.
It's definitely part of your job is to
sense things.
Yeah, well, I sense it right away.
And maybe he sensed me.
Maybe he's like, oh, oh, that guy.
We know all about him.
Because one of my contacts claimed that he
gave Flynn the washed out picture of the
Kud's.
Right, right.
You mentioned that one time after the show.
Yeah, the we know who I know who
that is.
He's my handler.
But, you know, I know it.
I tell him.
He's a Flynn guy.
That's no secret there.
And I told him, I said, Flynn's running
an op.
He said, well, I gave this to Flynn,
so I'm running the op.
I'm like, OK, I believe you.
I'm good to go.
And, you know, what's the op?
I mean, we don't people really don't know
that we kind of specialize in spotting this
stuff, but we're never read in.
And so we have to analyze it from
the outside, which is what to be honest
about what they want us to do.
Let's let's OK, let's look at it different
ways.
It could be it's very possible that because
I also know that one of Trump's rich
friends bailed out Flynn, he had some enormous
debts, probably legal bills, and that was all
taken care of by somebody.
That's just what I heard.
But I believe this.
I'm sure it's true.
Yeah, I think that's true.
So it could be that this is being
made.
So there is, of course, there are factions
inside our government and certainly inside our military
who are no good.
And so if you turn it into this
is a color revolution and these people are
out to start war, civil war in America,
just like the movie, the Obamas, then it
coming from the Michael Flynn faction, you know,
add Laura Logan in there because she's been
on this nonstop, throw some Muslim stuff in
their Muslim Brotherhood, all of that stuff.
You know, you can start to smoke people
out.
And maybe that's the idea to smoke them
out, smoke them out, smoke them out.
That's not a bad idea.
No, no.
But it's a little annoying that it that
it comes like Patrick Byrne.
Really, that's the guy you're going to use.
I mean, he sounds he sounds nuts.
He does sound and I believe I'd be
nuts to have you were doing all that
work.
Yeah, and I believe what he says.
I think he's probably telling the truth, although
his credibility has dropped a little bit because,
well, I was dancing around.
I wasn't really lying.
I was just kind of fibbing a little
bit, OK?
Yeah, which means it's M.O. Yeah.
So there's definitely something going on.
It's very similar to the U.K. Ultra.
It's my new name for it.
Candace Owens is U.K. Ultra.
She's not she's not M.K. Ultra.
She's U.K. Ultra.
So I was presented with some some some
one of the theories about Candace freaking out
of late is that she was she's actually
had before.
It's from one of our mutual friends is
data with some screenshots about this theory that
she was she had an affair with Charlie
Kirk before he was married by three or
four years when she was part of Turning
Point USA.
And then she got kicked out when she
sided with the Kanye and the Jew haters
and got kicked out of the operation.
Yeah.
And Charlie had to break up with her.
And he ended up finding the other girl
marrying her.
But she is acting to quote it.
The quote is she's acting like the crazy
ex-girlfriend.
All the earmarks of a crazy ex-girlfriend
blaming everybody in the organization for killing Charlie.
And because she hates all of them because
other ones have kicked her out and removed
her from Charlie to begin with.
Hmm.
Well, I have two clips pertaining to this
since we're on it.
The first is, you know, we have a
couple more people in the fray.
Tim Pool jumped in.
Jumped in the pool.
This whole thing is it reminds me of
like when CB radioed when everyone had one.
It just got crap.
And everybody's like breaker breaking.
This is rubber duck.
You suck more than my duck.
Or like the guys on 80 meters in
the middle of the night.
The good old boys.
Yeah, it's different.
The CB radio phenomenon.
Most people today don't remember it or it's
new to them because it happened before their
time.
That was one of the most phenomenal things
I've ever witnessed as a fad.
Everybody had a CB radio.
And everyone was was talking smack about each
other at a certain point.
It was unbelievable.
It was out of control.
It was completely out of except for channel
nine.
That's the emergency channel.
We don't touch channel nine, but channel 19.
No, that was that was horrible anyway.
So it's and it's just maybe there's a
million people.
Maybe there's three, maybe there's five that really
care about this and nobody else cares.
And this is starting to burn out because
they just can't get any crazier.
And I think Megan Kelly's smart.
She's backing away.
It's like, this is a fireball.
I don't want to have any part of
that.
So here's Tim Pool jumping in.
And then we have this tweet from Sarah
Fields.
According to Candace Owens, this is who to
blame for the assassination of Charlie Kirk based
on her own public statements on X and
on her podcast.
I've kept track.
Okay.
The French government, including Emmanuel Macron and Bridget
McCrone, the French Foreign Legion, 13th Brigade, the
Gendarmerie Intervention Group, Israel, Israeli operatives and Benjamin
Netanyahu, Jewish donors, the U.S. government, feds
and the FBI, the deep state, the CIA,
turning point, USA executives and leadership, including Tiger
Boyer, Andrew Colvett, Erica Kirk, yes, his wife,
Blake Neff, Pastor Rob McCoy, Josh Hammer, Pierre
DuPont and DuPont family, Stacey Sheridan, Freemasons, the
broader French interests, BB Nutt and Yahoo with
Israel connections, Egypt and Egyptian operations, Egypt planes
and joint exercises, Bolsheviks and anti-Christian forces,
maroon shirted individuals, suspected operatives or military, TPUSA
associated influencers, e.g. Alex Clark.
Are you done yet?
There are only three possible reason, possible reasons
for her nonsense.
Either she's evil, mentally ill or a complete
grifter.
Which is it?
Because a truth teller is not even on
the table anymore.
It was interesting to see Andy Ngo posted
an excerpt from his substack.
You remember Andy Ngo?
He was heralded.
Brave.
He's still around on Twitter.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Brave Andy Ngo.
He got beat up by the Antifa in
Seattle, I think.
Couple of times.
And he posted a very reasonable substack.
It was pretty much what we talked about.
It's like, you know, the reason we don't
know anything is there's a gag order.
You can't pollute the jury pool.
There's all this information is going to come
out in trial.
Was it really a 30-odd-six?
That's the main thing is, oh, 30-odd
-six.
We really don't, you know, we really don't
know anything.
And he got just roasted by, of all
people, Jimmy Dore.
So Jimmy Dore is like, oh, I got
to sell some stand-up concert tickets here.
Let me jump in here.
You idiot.
Only an idiot wouldn't question the narrative.
Wow.
Yeah.
It doesn't sound like Jimmy Dore, but.
And so, but I think the first kind
of public victim is going to be Tucker,
because Tucker doesn't really understand.
I don't think he understands quite yet how
this works, because he's relatively new to the
social media phenomenon.
Oh, this is an interesting point.
Now, I was going to get some Tucker
clips.
Not that I don't have enough clips that
I'm not playing, but the Tucker was in
Qatar.
Yes.
Do you have the clip?
No, but we can summarize it.
I can.
Yes.
He goes to Qatar and under the shadow
of Mark Levin accusing him of financing his
entire network with Qatar money.
Yeah.
He goes to Qatar and to some big
event there, some Middle Eastern thing, and he
goes on stage.
You notice him in the audience, but he
goes on stage to interview.
Interview the president, his eminence.
The Sheikh Amir, whatever he wants to call
him.
The prince.
And so, and to get to say, no,
I love the Jews.
No, we don't like Hamas.
The United States told us to put Hamas
here.
That's why they're here.
It's got nothing to do with that.
So he's doing an apology of everything.
And Qatar's, the Qatar, I'm sorry.
Tucker is leading him into the, you know,
when people say this, oh, that's bull crap.
And so Tucker's doing the whole thing in
that very end of the meeting.
But 20 minute interview at the very end,
Tucker says, you know, I've been accused of
taking Qatari money.
Yeah.
Is that true?
And I guess it's not that I know
of.
And then he says, and I'm going to
mention this.
I bought a house here.
I'm moving to Qatar.
I think it's a great, beautiful country.
I love it here.
No, no.
He didn't say he's moving.
He says, I bought a house here because
I'm a free man.
I'm an American.
I can do whatever I want.
You're right.
Like, whoa.
Okay.
And he never said he was going to
move there, but he said a house and
he said investment property, maybe says in Doha,
because I think it's a beautiful city.
I actually, I went on the Zillow and
I went looking at Doha.
He's not, it's a manufactured thing in the
desert.
It's not beautiful.
No, it's like a Bechtel city.
The women are all covered up.
The only woman is not covered up in
the Middle Eastern, that area, including, you know,
Dubai, they're all covered up.
And it's just kind of pathetic.
And they're wearing black.
And it's like hot there.
Yeah, it was the woman who was the
host of this event.
She comes out.
She's not wearing any hijab or anything.
She comes out, yak, yak, yak.
And Tucker's thinking, this is great.
I like this town, but you're right.
It's not a pretty, no, none of those
places are beautiful.
This is Tucker.
Like, I love being in Maine with my
dogs and hunting and fishing and, and my
love.
I love my truck.
You know, it's like, like what?
That was so odd.
And then there was, you know, on the
street interviews and he's, he's getting, you know,
people say look flustered.
I don't know.
It's just Tucker.
By the way, isn't it funny that Tucker
and Cutter, it's like if you just reverse
Tucker.
Yeah, I was having trouble getting it out.
Yeah.
So I was watching a YouTube interview of
Charles Asher Small of ISGAP.
That's the Institute of the Study of Global
Anti-Semitism and Policy.
He's a, he's the Jew guy.
So the Jew guy is on with, well,
that's what he is.
I mean, the whole thing is like anti
-Semites.
Okay.
So he's on with the Jew guy and
the Jew guy tackles Tucker and Candace.
But we also have.
By the way, I should say it was
interesting and I'm probably going to get more
clips from this guy in the future because
he was connecting the Muslim Brotherhood to everything.
And of course, which comes really actually comes
out of England.
We can't forget that.
That's why I'm so interested in it.
That's why I'm watching this interview because this
would be so you can back up your
thesis even more with more clips about me.
It's called confirmation bias and I love it.
But we also have to, I think, turn
our gaze to the radical right.
The Qataris are starting to fund people like
Tucker Carlson.
And do we have evidence of that?
Because I keep wondering that about Tucker Carlson.
Yeah, he's actually registered.
He has a company that's registered and getting,
they're getting funding for the Qataris.
So that's established.
We know that for sure.
Yes, we do.
Because with Candace, I feel like she's just
a bit nuts and ideological.
Her husband is interesting.
I think he's an extreme kind of a,
yeah, I don't know.
I don't know enough, but yeah.
Her husband was born a woman, wasn't he?
Oh, that's what, yeah.
That's what the...
Candace's husband was born a woman.
That's a joke before she comes and sues
me.
That should be the topic of our next
interview.
What, wait, stop.
I couldn't follow any of that.
What was he saying?
They're talking to me with this borderline accent.
But what, can you please...
Yeah, let me summarize.
So first of all, you heard him say,
yes, we know that Tucker has a company
that is taking money.
Well, he didn't say what the name of
the company was.
And I probably can't find it anywhere.
But he's, he's saying that with a little
more insight than Mark Levin.
Mark Levin!
Who I do not watch.
This is annoying.
And then...
On Fridays, I'm sorry, on Saturday and Sundays,
he's on Fox.
I think he's one of those prima donnas
that they don't like there.
But he's comes on for, he does a
couple of, he does an hour on Friday,
or sorry, Saturday and Sunday each.
And he gives, at the beginning of those,
of those shows, he gives a lecture, literally
a lecture, like he's a professor.
And it's, it's often quite good.
Well, good.
That's your beat.
And I expect you to bring many interesting
clips from Mark Levin, the great one.
So then what happens is the host says,
well, Candace Owens, I think she's just nuts.
And the guy says, now remember, this is
the Muslim Brotherhood expert.
He says, well, her husband is very interesting.
Of course, he's related to Lord Farmer, which
is complete British society.
And they've got nonprofits and everything, you know,
for, I don't know, for dogs or whatever
it is.
Oh, I should mention the crazy ex-girlfriend
thesis.
The guy who presents that had pictures of
her with Charlie and then pictures of her
with her husband saying, look, they look similar.
She has a thing for guys that have
this certain look.
Well, and then the host says.
Nuts and ideological.
Her husband is interesting.
I think he's an extreme kind of a,
yeah, I don't know.
I don't know enough, but yeah.
Her husband was born a woman, wasn't he?
So then the host says her husband was
born a woman, wasn't he?
Which is obviously a joke about the McCrones.
But I kind of, I thought that was
funny.
Oh, okay.
That's why I got messed up.
I'd left it in there.
It's good.
It's funny.
The scorned ex-girlfriend theory is as valid
as anything.
Crazy ex-girlfriend.
But then what is her husband doing?
I mean, he must just be loving it.
Otherwise you'd say, baby, you got to stop
doing this.
Yeah, stop.
Honey, you got to stop.
This has gone too far.
But to me, that feels very much like,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is great.
Look at what my wife is doing.
She's stirring everything up and getting everything, breaking
up the grand old party, breaking up MAGA.
She's doing great.
Good old there, Candace.
I'll take care of the four kids.
Don't you worry about it.
I'll take care of it.
That was pretty good, actually.
Yeah, you were dailing it.
I didn't have enough gay in there.
Doing British gay is not easy.
It's one of the hardest things.
British gay is not easy to do.
So, you know, again, I think it's UK
ultra.
This is under some kind of weird spell.
Just makes no sense.
But people love it.
People are all over it.
This is so much fun.
I love it.
What did Tim Poole say about you?
Ooh, what did you say about him?
I told these guys it's all like a
circle jerk.
It's unbelievable.
But Tucker's getting caught in the crossfire.
He has no idea that he's out of
his league.
This is just not what he does.
He would do his Fox show and, you
know, go back to Maine and whatever.
Then now it's like, I'm an American.
I can do whatever.
I'm a free man.
I'm an American.
I can buy a house in Doha.
I don't.
I have some very wealthy friends.
Not a single one ever said I'm buying
a house in Doha because it's such a
beautiful city.
So beautiful.
And real estate is actually not too bad
there for about 700,000.
You can get a nice dollars, that is.
You can get a nice multi-room apartment
overlooking the water, the bay, and the manufactured
pools.
If you want.
Who wants?
It's inconvenient.
Yeah.
It's out of the way.
Yeah.
I mean, of all the places you want
to go, that's the last place I'd want
to go.
It's easier to get to Beijing than it
is to get there.
Oh, that's a good point.
Well, Tucker probably flies private.
It's a total pain in the ass to
get to the Middle East from the United
States.
The Qataris send the jet.
Well, they probably do, but it's still a
long.
It's a long haul.
A long haul.
Yeah, that's a long way to go.
Yeah.
Hey, you know what?
If Qatar came along and said, here's 5
million bucks.
And oh, by the way, use the jet
whenever you want to.
Dude, I'd be picking you up.
Oh, yeah.
Let's roll.
No, that's different.
Let's roll, Dvorak.
But if that's the case, Tucker should be
honest about it.
Yeah.
Because nobody would care.
Well, I mean, how tone deaf are you
with all of what everyone is saying to
show up in Qatar to interview?
And the interview was 20 minutes.
Like, I didn't really add anything to my
life.
There was nothing shocking other than what I
think he was trying to do, was trying
to say, because that was the only thing
that really came out of it, was the
Israelis bombed Qatar and it wasn't President Trump's
direction.
That was, I think, the crux of the
interview, because Trump, according to the emir, called
him a few minutes before it happened and
said, oh, crap, I'm really sorry.
These guys are about to bomb you.
And then he made Bibi Netanyahu call and
apologize.
That was the crux of the interview.
But he didn't.
Why do you need to go to Doha
to get that out of the guy?
Who cares?
Who are you working for?
No, I'm agreeing.
He went to Doha to collect his check.
And, you know, Hillary Clinton was there.
You know, the whole thing just has a
bad look.
Bill Gates.
Bill Gates spoke there, of course.
He was?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Why?
Gavi, man, Gavi.
I don't know.
He's too boring.
He's always the same thing.
Kill people.
We don't have enough people.
They have too many people on the planet.
Get rid of them.
Shoot them up.
Vaccines.
Good.
RFK Jr. Bad.
Talking about RFK Jr. Bad.
Of course, they tried to impeach him, which
is bullcrap.
But I have a couple of I have
some underreported clips I want to get to
stuff that hasn't been discussed.
And we're off the Middle East.
Yes.
And one of them was that Trump recently
fired one of the the one of the
FTC women who he put in office in
and her term was up in twenty nine.
Right.
And didn't the Supreme Court say, yeah, you
have that you have that right?
Well, no, they're working on it.
Oh, they're working on it.
OK, and the point is, is that what
Trump is trying to do is he want
because you can't there's these independent agencies that
were created like the FTC.
And they kind of the appointment is the
appointment.
You can't fire them except for cause.
And Trump specifically fired her without cause on
purpose to get this thing to the Supreme
Court.
Yeah, I got it.
And and I couldn't quite figure out what's
going on.
But there's a long report, long thing on
this on NPR.
And I have a minute of it which
explains what they're really up against and what
they're trying to do.
And it's called the Unitary Unitary Executive Theory,
which I've never heard of before.
And I thought this little clip would straighten
it out.
And it's something that predates Donald Trump.
And for a very long time, conservatives, especially
a lot of them who are on the
Supreme Court today, believe in something called the
Unitary Executive Theory, that the president should have
powers at the expense of Congress to control
everything in the executive branch.
And we really are undergoing a change in
our system of government before our very eyes
that is making the executive branch more powerful
at the expense of Congress.
In this case, Congress created these agencies, gave
them a certain amount of independence.
They thought that would be better to shield
them from political influence.
But conservatives think that's just wrong.
And that guardrail of democracy is being demolished
by the Unitary Executive Theory.
And also what that means is that the
professional civil service, which is also a guardrail,
is also being demolished.
Because if the president can fire the heads
of these agencies, he certainly can fire all
the people who work in them.
Well, I guess that comes down to the
Constitution.
Well, these agencies are supposed to be under
the executive branch, even though they're created by
Congress.
And so he feels the executive branch has
the, you know, they're the boss.
So that's happening.
But the other thing, the underreported news is
this, which I think is really underreported and
should be...
Highlighted here on the No Agenda podcast.
Well, that's what we do.
This is about the court decision on the
grand jury releasing the Epstein grand jury stuff.
Listen to this.
A federal judge in New York has ruled
the U.S. Department of Justice can publicly
release grand jury records from the 2019 sex
trafficking case against the late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
The judge cited a new law requiring files
about Epstein to be released by the end
of next week.
Well, if Congress mandates it, I don't see
why that would be...
I mean, it's new because everyone's like, oh,
grand jury, shh, quiet.
Just stick everything in the grand jury testimony.
We can't release that.
But once Congress says, okay, you have to
release it, I think that's it.
Well, that's what happened.
Yeah, well...
But they didn't, you know, they made a
big fuss about not releasing that document because
it's got a lot of stuff in it.
Yeah, it's going to be juicy.
But now it's going to be released and
nobody's saying it.
All the news, where's the news on this?
Where did I get this from?
The BBC World Service.
I can tell you why, because what's in
this is going to be very embarrassing to
a lot of people the news will not
want to report on.
So this could be front running.
I think you're right.
They could be front running, you know, like
front running as in we're just not going
to talk about it.
Because you're right.
Why wouldn't they be on this nonstop and
said, drug boats, bombing boats, killing people?
Bombing boats, bombing boats.
Yeah, anything, anything, shh, not the Epstein files.
And I think probably everybody will benefit from
this being very quiet because there's going to
be a lot of implications.
And it's not going to be, I don't
think it's going to be sex stuff.
It's going to be money stuff.
People really get worried when it's about money.
Who's getting money?
Who gave money?
Where'd the money go?
Your no agenda show will be all over
it.
And then I have this, this, this other
one.
This I got from Jesse Waters, which is
hard to clip, as you say, but it's
impossible.
He likes to have Kevin McCarthy on, who
is an outstanding analyst for anything going on
in the government.
He'll bring McCarthy on, calls him K-Mac.
So it's kind of cool.
And K-Mac?
That's what he calls him, yeah.
K-Mac.
Yeah, K-Mac.
So McCarthy comes on and he does really
interesting analysis.
And most of it, the kind of that
level, it's like, you know, he was the
head of the Congress for a while.
And it's very outstanding.
Listen to this talking about the Gavin Newsom,
this is the Gavin clip, this is the
Gavin Newsom feud with Kamala Harris.
And how it came about and where Gavin's
place in the world is.
And this is very interesting.
I never thought of it this way.
Now, Kamala is talking about her bust.
She says there's going to be a big,
beautiful bust of her in Congress one day.
And she's beefing with Newsom.
Still, what's going on there?
That's a long term argument.
Remember, they come from the same area.
They come from San Francisco.
And remember that Newsom wanted to run for
the Senate and she ran so he didn't
get to.
Newsom wanted to run for governor.
Jerry Brown did.
So he had to go to lieutenant governor.
He's been pushed around.
And when Kamala won the Democrat nomination, you
know the Democrat convention?
Never let Gavin Newsom, the home state governor
of the nominee, speak.
Even when it came to the roll call,
he just had to sit there.
It was very embarrassing for him.
So she wanted him out on a hike.
All right.
So they hate each other and they're on
a collision course.
And Gavin's lost every round so far.
And let's see if the streak continues.
I surely don't mind.
Isn't this part of the four families that
run the Bay Area?
It has something to do with it, with
the state, actually.
But Kamala was never part of that group.
She was an outsider, but she was the
black token, black, Indian, black, whatever you wanted
her to be.
They had to have her there because they're
starting to look racist otherwise.
So it's going to be fun to watch.
Newsom's dad was William Newsom?
I don't remember the details.
He wanted to make...
This was all about land.
There's all part of the Gettys are the
ones behind most of these families.
Yeah, yeah.
And they had all the money.
But it's Newsom, Brown, Pelosi and Feinstein.
Those are the big families.
Yeah, all run by the Gettys.
Yeah, beautiful.
We don't have to do anything.
So I was walking the dog.
I was walking the dog and I'm listening
to the president speak in Pennsylvania.
And I'm listening because...
Some good material.
Some great material.
The oil baron texts me.
He says, he's wrong.
There are diminishing returns on oil drilling in
the United States.
And he's in the Permian Basin, but he's
in other places too.
And he says right now, we are pumping
oil at a loss.
And so he's calling people out the best
oil man ever and this and that.
And Trump even says, well, we got to
get the price of energy down, energy price
down.
But not too fast.
Not too fast.
Yeah, because it went very fast.
And these guys need to pump, according to
the oil baron, it's $75 a barrel.
Oh, that's way too high.
But that's what it is.
And it's mainly, it's still regulations.
The CapEx, they can't write off stuff.
Oh, that is only seven years.
They can't do, you know, 14 or 15,
even though this stuff lasts for 20.
So there's a whole bunch of reasons why
it's still very high.
And so he's kind of complaining and moaning
at me.
Yeah, I would be too if I was
losing $10 a barrel or more.
Now, I think the price dropped to $56
the other day.
You know, I was going to hit him
up for use of the jet to, you
know, to go to California.
But I'm afraid now he's going to be
like, man, I mean, I've got no money.
I'm broke.
They got a plane.
The company has a plane.
Hey, I told you, I've got, it's better
to have a friend with a plane than
it is to own your own.
I can tell you that.
Or helicopter.
And so Phoebe's doing her business.
And I hear the president and I laugh
so hard.
The dog stopped pooping.
It was amazing.
Here's what he said.
Ilan Omar, whatever the hell her name is,
with a little shoe, a little turban.
Come on, man.
That's genius.
The little turban.
Ah, it was great.
I love her.
She comes in and does nothing but bitch.
She's always complaining.
She comes from a country where, I mean,
it's considered about the worst country in the
world, right?
They have no military.
They have no nothing.
They have no parliament.
They don't know what the hell the word
parliament means.
They have nothing.
They have no police.
They police themselves.
They kill each other all the time.
I love it.
She comes to our country and she's always
complaining about the Constitution allows me to do
this.
The constant.
We ought to get her the hell out.
She married her brother in order to get
in.
Right.
She married her brother.
He's got the crowd on a roll.
He's like, I'm not stopping here.
Can you imagine if Donald Trump married his
sister?
Beautiful.
She's a beautiful person.
I married my sister to get my citizenship.
Do you think I'd last for about two
hours or would it be something less than
that?
She married her brother to get in.
Therefore, she's here illegally.
She should get the hell out.
Throw the hell out.
She does nothing but complain.
She married her brother with a little.
I watched quite a bit of that, but
I didn't catch that good part, which you
just played.
The turban was great.
The turban thing is funny, but the media
was playing a lot of the jokes, but
they didn't.
Nobody, including Gutfeld, didn't play that little segment.
That's a beauty.
I'll give you a clip of the day
for finding that.
I laughed so hard about that.
Clip of the day.
Yeah, he was doing gags and jokes and,
you know, trying to get, you know, he
was doing the weave in a very extreme
way.
He was out there.
And then just on the anti-woke, I
guess, anti-trans Maoism tip, Marco Rubio's like,
I'm stepping up to the plate.
I'm going to do something about it.
It's not just America's national security strategy that's
changing under Donald Trump.
It's the typeface used to present it as
well.
The US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has
ordered diplomats to return to using Times New
Roman for official communications.
His predecessor in the Biden administration opted for
Calibri because apparently its lack of decorative angular
features made it more accessible for people with
disabilities.
And it was a Microsoft Office default setting.
Mr. Rubio called it a wasteful diversity move.
What in the world is going on with
this?
Yeah, I have some thoughts on this.
I thought you would.
I think my clip is the same as
your clip.
You know, actually, you know a lot about.
Fonts.
You know a lot about fonts.
Typeset.
Yeah, it should be a typesetting.
Yes.
Well, let me just play 30 seconds of
Rubio here as he's talking about it.
Now, it's not just America's national security strategy
that's changing.
Wait, that's not the one.
It's.
Hold on a second.
I thought I had it here.
Crap.
I was sure I had Rubio.
Anyway, I don't.
But your thoughts are appreciated.
Well, they make a big point that they
was Simplex Calibri, which is also a name
of a shotgun.
Well, let's start with the basics.
Is Calibri, Calibre, whatever.
Is it indeed easier to read on screens?
This is where it becomes interesting.
I personally.
There's a contradiction here.
Calibri was, according to the designer.
And maybe the designer even talks in this
clip that I have.
Oh, I have a designer clip too.
But you're on deck.
You go.
Well, play the guy, the designer guy.
He makes mockery of the change back because
he claims that Calibri was designed as a
font specifically for screens or screen reading, which
I believe is probably true.
Screen reading is a lot different than reading
on paper because you have to.
It's harder to keep your eyes because the
distance is different.
But the light in your eye and the
whole thing, it's hard to read on a
screen.
If it's like it's a giant paragraph, you
get lost going back and forth.
That's why they have to have short paragraphs
on the screens.
But the Calibre is a sans serif face.
That means there's no serifs.
The little lines at the bottom, little footers.
There's little the bottom of a table with
a footer on it.
It's a sans serif face, and it's generally
believed that serif faces are always easier to
read than sans serif faces because there's a
natural line that forms on the bottom of
each line because of the serifs.
They form a line that makes it easier
for the eye to follow.
And the font that was designed.
But if you start to, if you look
at Calibre, it's very easy to read.
Times New Roman is not so much.
If Rubio was on the ball, he would
have mandated for press releases that were put
on the screen, which is what I think
they're talking about mostly.
They would have picked Georgia, which is the
font I use all the time.
Georgia was also designed to be read on
a screen, and it's serifed.
So Georgia, which is a Microsoft font, it
was developed up there, is a stunning font
for reading on screens.
And it's just far superior to Times New
Roman and Calibre.
And so I think he was right in
this idea of getting rid of one and
going back to serif faces, but he picked
the wrong one.
Is anyone still listening to the show?
Probably not.
Let me play the designer here.
Well, Lukas de Groot is the Danish type
designer who came up with Calibre.
And he joins us now.
Lukas, what did you make of it when
you heard this news?
It's a hilarious and sad news item.
I really don't understand it.
Do you think Calibre is woke in any
way?
No.
I mean, it was designed to facilitate reading
on modern computer screens.
And it was chosen to replace Times New
Roman, the typeface that Rubio wants to go
back to now, in 2007.
And Calibre was designed to work well in
tiny sizes and on coarse office screens, which
it still does, much better than Times New
Roman.
So I don't understand it.
Yes, because one of the quotes from Marco
Rubio's instruction to diplomats around the world was
to restore decorum to the department's written products.
Do you think your typeface lacks decorum?
Well, of course, maybe the serifs in Times
New Roman, how the little feet on the
stems can be seen as decorum.
Yeah, just briefly and finally, are you confident
that Calibre will survive this outrage?
Absolutely, yeah.
Lukas de Groot, it's lovely to talk to
you.
Lukas is the man who created Calibre, this
font that is used so widely, but alas,
no longer in the U.S. State Department.
Meh.
Is it, because all I heard was it's
the default on Microsoft Office products.
What is the default, Calibre?
No, Times.
Isn't Times the default?
There's about five or six fonts.
I don't know that there's a default.
I don't know.
I have no idea if that is default.
I mean, it's on there.
It's provided.
It's one of the many fonts that you
get when you get Office.
It's on the list.
I don't know.
It's a default.
I always thought Arial was.
Let me see what the default is in
mine.
Let me see.
It's such a complicated program.
Aptos is my default.
Aptos?
Why do I have Aptos?
This whole story is interesting.
All these companies do this.
They keep changing.
This is our official font for our company.
Microsoft sent out a thing.
They use Berkelium or something.
Berkeley?
Crazy font.
Yeah.
They don't even have it as a default.
It's hard to find.
It's a beautiful font.
Basically, we've wasted too much time on this.
Yeah, already, especially my analysis.
I don't think anybody cares.
I could go on and on because I
think there's a psychology to these fonts.
That's the thing that's overlooked.
When you look at something in different fonts,
media is the message kind of thing.
It's a McLuhan-esque kind of experience.
Things in different fonts have a different impact
on you.
There's no question about that.
Then we had the farmer bailout.
I have two NPR clips with some explanations
here.
This is all.
And I think I called it before Thanksgiving
when the reporter said, Walmart, they say it's
cheaper, the turkey dinner, but they don't have...
It was Stephanie Rule, I think it was.
They don't have cornbread or whatever in there,
so there's less ingredients.
And that's when we first heard the big
A word.
And I think we identified it quickly as
affordability.
That was the word.
And that is now the word that the
president, who, of course, made a big mistake
by saying, I'm going to bring prices down.
It's going to be so cheap.
I don't understand why the news media doesn't
emphasize this.
I already know why, because this doesn't help
Trump.
But which is the fact that inflation is
cumulative.
It is not something you can't...
When you have 10%, 9%, 10%, 9%, 10
% up during the Biden administration, jacked everything
up probably 20% overall, maybe more.
And then it keeps going up 2%, even
2% or 1%.
It's still going up.
It is never going to go down.
It doesn't go down unless you have deflation.
And you can't have deflation because that causes
a depression.
Yes.
In fact, it's even funnier now because when
he says energy prices, I brought him down.
Yeah, gas is definitely cheaper.
But the news media goes, well, everyone's electricity
bill is higher, which has nothing to do
with anything other than data centers everywhere.
So anyway, here's a little quickie from NPR
on the farmer bailout.
President Trump has announced a $12 billion bailout
for farmers to offset the impact of his
tariff policies.
How does this bailout announcement fit into the
bigger picture of Trump's economic policies?
Well, to start with, you just have a
lot of voters who really are feeling economic
pain for a variety of reasons right now.
This is something that polls, including our own
polling at NPR, keep showing us that voters
are talking about, especially the big A word,
affordability, as a big problem.
Now, this bailout announcement isn't exactly about affordability,
but it is about helping a group of
people who have been hurt by Trump's tariff
policies to at least stay afloat.
Right.
So it's $12 billion.
NPR has some of the details.
Danielle, can we just talk about the nuts
and bolts?
I mean, how does this program work?
I mean, really broadly speaking, it's $12 billion
that the Ag Department has set aside as
direct payments to farmers.
So another farm support program, there are a
few of them.
Of that $12 billion, $11 billion, so the
overwhelming majority of it, is for row crop
farmers.
So that's farmers that grow grains like seed
corn, wheat, soybeans, cotton.
So not things like, you know, spinach, tomatoes,
things you see in the produce aisle.
$1 billion has been set aside for vegetable
farmers should they need it.
But that $11 billion for row crop farmers,
what we know right now is that it's
only for farms making up to just over
$900,000 per year.
That will exclude the very biggest farms, but
will include all the small family farms that
we hear about in politics all of the
time.
And it will be capped at just over
$150,000 per farm.
And the amount will be adjusted based on
the size of the farm.
So depending on the farmer, that may or
may not cover their losses based on tariffs
and rising input costs this year.
Yeah, okay.
So there's NPR saying, it's no good.
But I really enjoyed watching.
I love the cabinet meetings because it's the
apprentice, you know.
And he'll even say, if you don't do
that right, Scott, I'm going to fire you.
You know, it's fantastic.
It's actually made.
Yeah, it's definitely the apprentice.
It's the apprentice vibe.
And people should watch that because it really
is entertaining.
But you also see a president who is
running the business of America, which is business.
And so I'm watching these farmers.
And to the left of the president, for
the viewers right, it was kind of a
good looking woman.
Her last name was Kennedy.
And so I was like, well, what she
got to say.
She's not related to the Kennedys in any
way.
She's from down South.
She's a rice farmer, cute lady.
And I kind of like this a lot
where the president's like, oh, you got a
problem.
I'm going to fix it.
But I wish I was here under better
terms.
I'll tell you, I think the rice industry
thanks you sincerely for what you have done
for the California rice market and to Japan.
It has been monumental for our industry.
But us in the South are really struggling.
I mean, this is not just a crisis.
I would say it's almost a market dynamics
that really are true and an anti-competitive
nature.
Right.
So it follows what you sent out this
weekend.
And we do believe that countries are dumping
rice into this country today.
We've never seen imports this great.
Which countries?
India, Thailand, even China into Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rico used to be one of the
largest markets for U.S. rice.
We haven't shipped rice into Puerto Rico in
years.
So this has been happening for years.
This didn't start during your administration.
But unfortunately, we're seeing it in a much
bigger way now.
The tariffs are working, but we need to
double down because- You want more.
I mean- Well, they're cheating, right?
They're, you know, not- Scott, India.
Tell me about India.
Why is India allowed to do that?
They have to pay tariffs.
Do they have an exemption on rice?
No, sir.
We're still working on their trade deal.
Yeah, but they shouldn't be dumping.
I mean, I heard that.
I heard that from others.
So I love this.
Right away, he goes to Besant.
He says, Scott, what's up with India?
And he's clearly caught flat-footed.
Uh, we're still working on the trade deal,
sir, sir.
Hey, hey, get that done.
Stop these guys from dumping.
You can't do that.
There's a WTO case against India.
Give me the countries, if you could.
Go ahead.
India.
Who else?
So India- Mark it down.
What'd you say?
India, Thailand, China into Puerto Rico.
Not into the, you know, continental U.S.
but into Puerto Rico.
Those are the main culprits.
So Puerto Rico used to do a lot
of business and now- 100%.
Puerto Rico was U.S.-based. Absolutely.
All right.
And- Yes.
You should have settled.
It's all those slanty-eyed countries taking advantage
of us.
Scott, get on it.
Otherwise, you're fired.
Yeah.
Yeah, it felt good to see that.
I'm farmer-adjacent, so I kind of like
that.
Yeah, but there's probably different kinds of rice.
Well, here we go.
Here we go.
John, if we're at some rice moment-
I'm not going to do it because I
already bored people with my thoughts on swans.
Do you know how to cook basmati rice,
people?
If it's all in the- You got
to wash it.
You got to wash it three, four times.
And only then, only then will your basmati
rice be perfect.
Did I summarize it well?
Well, that's in a ridicule-like manner, maybe.
But I would say that, you know, Texas
long grain rice, which is what we cook
mostly in the United States, is not something
they grow in India.
And I'm not convinced of this whining because
the Indian rice in particular, let them jack
it up because the Pakistani rice will be
cheaper, which is superior- Oh, it's much
better.
I might mention to Indian rice every time.
Paki rice is the best.
It's cleaner.
Then there was a whole thing that went
on about fertilizer, which was very interesting.
And of course, a report came out about
that.
A new U.S. tariff threat, this time
focusing on Canadian fertilizer.
A lot of it does come in from
Canada.
And so we'll end up putting very severe
tariffs on that if we have to, because
that's the way you want to bolster here.
And we can do it here.
While Trump provided no specifics on what that
severe tariff could look like, it would seriously
impact U.S. farmers.
Currently, over 95% of potash, a key
ingredient in industrial fertilizer, is imported into the
U.S. 90% of that comes from
Canada.
And they start charging and sending in, you
know, very high prices from other countries, whether
it's Canada or somebody else.
We're not going to let that happen.
The latest threat comes days after the president
spoke and danced with Prime Minister Mark Carney
at the World Cup draw in Washington.
But that jovial mood hasn't paid off.
Outside of potential potash tariffs, Trump doesn't seem
interested in restarting trade talks with Canada that
he himself called off in October.
But Trump seemingly recognized that the U.S.
could not make enough fertilizer domestically in November
when he previously exempted Canadian potash from all
U.S. duties with China, Russia and Belarus
the only other major potash producers in the
world.
Canada's agriculture sector is already being hammered by
China with 100% duty on canola and
a 25% levy on pork, Donna.
But a fertilizer tariff would likely be different
since the Americans are so reliant on buying
Canadian potash.
So this is a, I feel, another topic
that you will know a lot about, about
fertilizer.
For some reason, I just feel like John's
going to know about potash.
He's going to know about fertilizer.
I thought fertilizer was ammonium nitrate and some
poop.
I mean, now it's potash, which is you,
you mine that.
And, you know, it's like a mineral.
Yeah, it's just kind of come.
It's like, yeah, actually you do.
You might like a mineral.
So it's, it's a potassium source that I
guess is needed for a lot of, a
lot of crops.
We really don't have, I mean, we, we,
if we started to mine, I guess we
could, could make, can't just turn D.C.
upside down and use all that bull crap.
Wouldn't that work?
Yeah, no.
Today, potash is a key component in balanced
fertilizers alongside nitrogen and phosphorus, supporting overall plant
health.
It's very important.
Yeah.
Well, the final thing I have on affordability,
uh, maybe people should, uh, go to the
grocery store themselves and stop having it dropped
off by Instacart.
There you go.
Yeah.
Listen to this.
Turning to business news this morning, you may
have heard of dynamic pricing.
Well, now Instacart is accused of using this
controversial practice to charge consumers wildly inconsistent prices
on the same products.
Maribel, we're joining us live from NASDAQ with
our market watch report to explain.
And, oh, this is infuriating.
Oh, Alicia.
Okay.
Let's get to it.
Food delivery service.
Instacart is being accused of charging different prices
to different customers on the same grocery items
without them knowing groundwork.
It's a consumer advocacy group, uh, says Instacart's
pricing algorithm could lead to shoppers paying an
extra $1,200 on groceries annually.
A nearly three quarters of grocery items is
surveyed were sold at different price points.
Instacart said the price differences were tests conducted
by some retailers to learn quote, what matters
most to consumers.
It denied using shopper's personal information to feel
dynamic or customized pricing.
Yeah.
Just go get it yourself.
They're open until 10.
A lot of places are open all night.
Yeah.
That's when they do their restocking.
Usually these smart stores are starting midnight.
Yes.
Yeah.
I don't understand it either.
I mean, I don't know if you'd like
to cook at all.
If you don't like cooking and you don't
like shopping, you don't like anything.
You just abdud.
You're sitting there.
Hey, I'm going to have some milk delivered.
They used to have that.
You call a milkman.
They come by with milk and butter.
Yep.
We used to, when I was growing up,
you had to put your empties outside and
the, you know, Clank glass.
You'd always wake up at five in the
morning when the guy's clanking the bottles together.
Yeah.
Trying to wake you up.
When I was a kid, the milkman woke
me up at five clanking the empties together.
And then one more, uh, amazing, uh, uh,
announcement, although I have not actually seen an
executive order published yet is the, the tiny
cars we're going to bring tiny cars back.
Yeah.
It was actually a really surprising comment that
Trump made in the middle of his press
conference, talking about the, uh, freedom means affordable
cars, uh, executive order that he signed there.
Um, while there's a lot of things around
what tiny cars, um, how it could possibly
be legal in the States.
The biggest thing is crash ratings.
Um, that's one of the reasons why we
don't have them.
We used to have something called the smart
car.
If you remember that really, really tiny, um,
still around.
Unfortunately, they didn't really sell here.
They're low horsepower.
They're very small and people didn't seem to
really want them, but, uh, there's a lot
of interest going on with, Oh, well, actually
I could use something that's really good on
fuel economy.
Something that's really easy to park and small.
I'm keeping in mind that this is not
a highway vehicle.
A lot of these have under a hundred
horsepower and they're smaller than a Fiat 500
at about 12 feet long ish.
Um, and they're all Japan exclusive for now.
Uh, although there are some other types of
vehicles that are on sale in Italy and
India that are somewhat similar.
Um, this would be very, very new for
the U S market to have something like
this here.
I think it would really shake things up
for the U S consumer.
So he, I guess he's changing or undoing
the corporate average fuel economy standards.
Yeah, sure.
Which makes a lot of sense.
We can bring back the Volkswagen diesels.
But that, that look, remember that they faked
their tests.
Yeah.
I, I always suspected when I was in,
uh, Sweden, they put us on the track
with the, uh, with the Volvo diesels.
And I always thought something was fishy with
these things because they just excel.
I've never, cause I've driven diesels.
Everyone has, and they, these things, these, this
new style of diesel, which is the one
Volkswagen use the same design.
They just went like bats out of hell.
I mean, it was astonishingly quick.
Yeah.
You don't even, you don't even notice it.
You wouldn't even know it was a diesel.
No, except in, in Europe, they have the
diesels, but you have to get the blue,
the blue stuff, which is, you know, the,
like the, uh, what do they call it?
It's not acts blue.
Um, yeah.
Oh, that, that, that liquid.
Yes.
I guess it has to be injected to
keep the pollution down.
And that's the scam.
It's a scam.
Yeah.
It's a scam.
It's a total scam.
The car won't work without it.
If you run it, if you run out.
Oh yeah.
The, the, the indicator will, yeah.
The blue, blue stuff.
What is it?
What is it called?
Add blue.
That's what it's called.
Add blue.
Add blue, which you can only get from
China.
Yeah.
We should get rid of that too.
It would make everything a lot easier and
cheaper, but I look forward to my $14
,000 car.
That would be nice.
That little car they're talking about goes 28
miles an hour.
Max.
They didn't mention that in the report.
Did they?
No.
Well, a lot of people are like, oh
yeah, I can finally get that $14,000
Toyota truck.
Apparently there's some really, oh yeah.
The Toyota truck.
Everybody wants that.
It's a small truck.
They used to sell it in this country,
uh, back in the seventies.
There was a, it's like a half size
pickup truck with a big bed.
So it's very handy.
And it's got great gas mileage.
It's small, uh, Toyota.
And they took it off the market for
some reason or other during one of the
administrations by someone or Clinton, I think.
Yeah.
And they, yeah, we can't have this anymore.
And so it drew in the market for,
for small pickups.
Yeah.
Now it's back.
That's that.
That's a winner.
That thing.
So it's called Def.
Yeah.
Def.
That's a pig urine.
Remember we had, we did a whole show
about pig urine.
Oh, that's right.
The pig urine goes into the gasoline, into
the diesel fuel.
Yeah, that's just the greatest.
Meanwhile, only a tiny, tiny elite controls all
of the money in the world.
A new world inequality report warns that fewer
than 60,000 of the world's richest people
own more wealth than half of the entire
world put together.
The report highlights extreme gaps in income and
wealth, which translate into unequal distribution of political
power.
A global elite amounting to 0.001%
of the population is three times wealthier than
the bottom 50%.
At the same time, the top tier contributes
disproportionately little to public finances.
Middle class workers on a high professional salary,
such as doctors, teachers, and engineers pay a
higher share of their income in tax than
a billionaire whose wealth is based on offshore
structures or capital gains.
Global wealth inequality also leads to an unequal
contribution to climate change.
Well, wait, I have another one.
Solastalgia.
Have you heard of this disease?
Well, I want to stay with the rich
people first.
Because I have a series, because they're trying
to institute a wealth tax now.
And you know me.
Well, that's what this is about.
That's what that whole clip is about.
Based on climate change.
Yeah, well, climate, whatever.
But in California, they're trying to institute a
wealth tax on the billionaires.
And it's all revealed in my untitled clip
one.
Talk about a wealth tax is back, maybe
because of the stunning increase in unaffordability and
inequity.
Oxfam reported on the work of three French
economists who found that around the world, the
top 1% of people own about 43%,
almost half of the world's total wealth.
Could a wealth tax spread that around a
little?
This is no coincidence that Euronews had that
report.
And now this is from where?
NPR?
Yep.
No coincidence whatsoever.
That's why it's interesting.
Now, most of us are taxed on paychecks,
what we make.
A wealth tax is a concept of taxing
billionaires on what they own, which might include
a few Picasso's and an NBA team.
Patricia Cohen of the New York Times reports
that Norway, Switzerland and Spain already have wealth
taxes.
Bolivia has an impuesto a las grandes fortunas,
or tax on grand fortunes.
There are heated debates in France and in
Britain.
One survey shows 75% of people in
the UK support this idea.
While here at home, California recently proposed a
billionaire tax act, a one-time 5%
tax on the worth of California's billionaires to
pay for health care and education in the
state.
They can exclude retirement accounts and up to
$5 million in assets like cars and expensive
handbags.
But what are the pros and cons?
Christina Llewellyn is a professor at the Poole
College of Management at North Carolina State University.
Among her recent articles on the university's website
is the pros and cons of wealth taxes.
That works out well for us.
Professor Llewellyn, Christina, welcome.
Thank you so much.
I'm really happy to be here.
And thank you for having me.
That's exactly why I ended it.
If you want to solve the problem, get
rid of central banks.
How about that?
It's the wealth tax.
This is dumb.
Well, I wrote a column on wealth tax,
which I think is better than income tax,
but they're not doing it that way.
They want to have it on top of
income tax, which is not the idea.
And it's on my substack, dvorak.substack.com.
Go look at it.
You look it up.
It's I wrote it years ago.
I keep talking about it, but it's not
5% of a billionaire.
It's, you know, everybody gets taxed a little
bit.
But whatever the case, this is like nonsense.
If you want to play more, it's part
two.
So a quick example, which you outline NBA
player LeBron James made over 47 million dollars
in the 24-25 season.
Now go after the black man.
And was taxed at 37% on most
of his income.
But then you give the example of Mark
Zuckerberg.
Wait a minute.
There's like a double whammy in here.
Like, oh, the black man who made it
rich, he gets taxed 37%.
But the white Jew, man, no, no, no.
Trolling shareholder of Meta.
Right, exactly.
So Mark Zuckerberg, he only receives a dollar
in salaries, but he has a substantial amount
of wealth accumulated.
So if we impose a 5% tax
on that, it would generate a substantial amount
of revenue.
He does have 209.4 billion.
Worth remembering, every one of those billions is
a thousand million.
And then this proposed 5% wealth tax
for him would be just 10 billion off
209 billion.
And that's not going to hurt.
But the issue with this is really just
because he has this wealth, it doesn't mean
that he has the amount of money laying
around to pay this tax.
Many wealthy people, their money is tied up
in their assets, so they don't necessarily keep
a lot of cash laying around.
They invest it in other sources of wealth
that can help generate more investment income.
What might the solution there be?
A different solution could be to tax the
investment income at a higher tax rate.
If he receives dividends or capital gains on
stock that he does sell, we could tax
that at a higher rate.
But some have suggested, well, you know, some
of these billionaires we're talking about maybe have
11 houses in one case.
Couldn't they sell off some of their assets
or would that be seen as being unfair?
Yes, and that's a great point.
It's a great point.
When we think about tax policy principles, one
thing that we don't want to do is
cause taxpayers to make decisions that they wouldn't
otherwise do just because a tax is imposed.
So that's normally thought of as kind of
a bad tax policy.
Well, I think this brings us to unrealized
gains that you mentioned, Zuckerberg and others in
the short term, they get dividends, the cash
back from investments.
Those are taxed and realized.
Unrealized gains are the increase in value of
investments on paper.
You know, this value doesn't trigger taxes until
those investments are sold.
And there's a suggestion to tax this increase
in value before sale in the increase in
other assets as well.
This will never happen.
No, it can't.
It would ruin.
It would kill everything.
It would ruin my Bitcoin stash, man.
Oh, yeah, it would.
Yes, this is often discussed.
By the way, Bitcoin fixes all of this.
But OK, we'll keep it.
Yeah, it does.
It does.
If we all use Bitcoin, there will be
no more wars.
There will be a lot less free sex,
tons of it in my concubine, my polycule.
All right.
Do we have to listen to more?
Is there more?
No, we don't have to listen to anything.
Well, if you think it's important, important, it's
important.
I mean, I think you got the gist
of it.
It's just like they're trying to.
Well, actually, skip to re and go to
the last clip because they at least have
a little rap.
We'll stay with California.
This just affects 200 people in California, 200
billionaires.
And the EUHW union estimates that it would
raise 100 billion.
Yeah, pay for that.
That's a substantial amount of money.
There are definitely costs and benefits of this.
And they just really have to decide if
the substantial amount of revenue that they generate
is going to be worth that administrative burden
that they're going to place on taxpayers and
the tax authority.
Yeah.
By the way, this is not a new
idea.
17th century Massachusetts colonists imposed a wealth tax
on holdings, land, ship, jewelry, livestock.
There were just a lot fewer people to
check.
Right, exactly.
People had probably less complex arrangements back then.
And I mean, although we don't normally think
about this, even a real estate tax for
property tax, it's based on how much your
real estate assets worth at that point in
time.
But real estate's pretty easy to value.
And they have specialists at the jurisdictions that
do that.
But yeah, you're right.
These taxes have been around for a long
time in different forms.
Two people get salaries for that conversation.
That's just, that's horrible.
But one of them didn't get paid for
it.
This is the volunteer professor.
Oh, she's a volunteer professor.
No, she's a professor.
She gets paid to be a professor.
She didn't get paid to talk to NPR.
She gets paid to do this dumb research.
Research on the wealth tax.
The wealth tax is not a bad idea
if it's applied to everyone, not just to,
you know, you take a billionaire and go
out.
This is just, it's called amongst the rich
people, they always like to use this term,
soaking the rich.
Yes.
And it's going to happen to you out
there in California.
The longer you stay, they're like, oh, DeVore.
One of the things is this pendulum.
You ever heard of this?
The pendulum swings.
Yeah.
Enjoy.
Enjoy the pendulum that knocks you in the
head when it swings back.
It's already swinging back with Gavin Newsom being,
he's going to be ousted.
We're going to put in, Tom Steyer is
going to be the next governor.
Oh yeah.
It's going to be great.
But don't say I didn't warn you.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
Yeah, okay.
Because, you know, we can't come guns a
-blazing across the country border of California when
you guys succeed.
I'm not going to be able to help
you.
Well, when we succeed, we succeed.
It's just the way it is.
And with that, I want to thank you
for your courage.
Say the morning to you, the man who
put the C in the capital gains tax.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end.
The one, the only, Mr. John C.
DeMorgan.
Yo, in the morning, trolls, how you doing?
Let me count you for a second.
Well, 1,497, so we're still 300 trolls
short, but it's amazing so many.
It's like a big studio audience.
And sitting in the troll room, many of
them, which we love to see you all
there.
Well, I was going to say something.
What do I have here?
Didn't I have something in my donation segment?
Yeah, there was something you said you were
going to talk about.
I don't remember.
I'm going to write it down so I
can talk about it.
I'm not going to make that mistake again,
you said.
I did not.
I didn't say anything like that.
I have no idea what I was talking
about.
What I am talking about is that we
are a value for value podcast, which means
we appreciate when people support us.
However you feel like supporting us.
Time, talent, treasure.
I was just consulting my nephew in the
Netherlands.
He's like, hey, uncle, I'm going to start
a podcast.
That's what every uncle wants to hear.
Yeah.
I'm going to start a podcast.
I was like, okay, here's the rules.
One, you've got to release on the same
day around the same time consistently, always, because
people start to shape.
Nobody does that.
They can't do it.
That's the hardest thing to do.
But we're pretty good at it.
The thing that there's two hard things to
do, just not to interrupt, but I'm going
to interrupt anyway.
Two hard things to do.
One is to do the podcast exactly the
same time every day for 18 years.
And the other one is to do the
podcast for 18 years.
Most people can't get past a year.
Seven episodes, I think, is the pod fade.
You actually would know that number.
Yes.
Seven episodes is the pod fade number.
Wow.
And I also said, you need to do
value for value right away from the beginning.
He says, really?
You say, yes, right away.
And if someone sends you five euros, you
got to thank them on the next segment.
And don't make it a set amount.
Let them donate whatever.
And I showed him our boob donations.
And then the last thing I said was,
when you're out of material, end the show.
Then it's done.
Don't worry about, oh, I need to make
exactly 55 minutes.
Now, just when you're out of material, just
end it.
Or when you're bored of yourself or your
partner, if you're bored of each other, stop.
Just end the show there.
But it's really true about same time.
Which is the only thing we don't do.
Yeah, we do.
Yeah, we end it when we're done.
All the time, like, I'm done.
It's a joke.
It's meant to be funny.
Yeah, OK.
I mean, you literally carried us way beyond,
way too long.
No, it's always my fault.
It is.
Just blame poor John over there in California.
The horrible state that it is.
Hey, I have to live here.
You don't have to live there.
There's no reason.
No, there's a lot of reasons.
Give me one.
Prop 13 taxes.
What is that?
What's Prop 13?
That means my tax bill has been frozen
since the day I bought this house.
Oh, your property taxes.
By some screwballs raising the property taxes for
no good reason.
Oh, that's kind of cool.
But yeah, yeah.
So you're in it for the money.
All right.
I hope it's worth it.
And the weather.
Oh, and the weather.
All I hear you is moaning.
It's too hot.
It's too cold.
Yeah, but by too cold to me, it's
like 60.
I've never heard you say it's beautiful here
today.
That's what we do in California because we
expect the weather to be 76 with about
40 percent humidity every day.
That's when it's beautiful and sunny, but not
windy.
All right.
Hey, you do you, boo.
It's all good with me.
So anyway, I told him that and I
said, do you remember when we switched from
11 a.m. central time to 1 p
.m. central time?
People lost their ever loving minds.
After like that was about 10 years ago.
No, five, five years ago.
No, it was when we moved here.
Yeah, I'm quite sure.
And people were mad.
I live in Europe.
It's too late for me now.
It took it was months.
It was at least six months.
The Aussies liked it.
I think they could listen, get up early
and listen.
Well, anyway, one of the other ways people
can help just talking about value for value,
value number four, value.info, if anyone's interested,
is by contributing assets to the show.
Assets.
You can give us assets like clips.
You know, I got a lot of end
of show ISOs, all real, of course, because
people now see it as their personal mission.
Like I had to work with this AI,
do something about that.
Artwork is another way.
And we are very appreciative of all of
that.
I was interviewed by a South African podcaster
yesterday.
She says, I love it.
All your art is you have fresh new
art for every single episode.
So, yeah.
So the guys are the South African guys
from England?
They have.
I'm trying to do it.
It's kind of an English.
It's an African or actually it's kind of
Dutch.
It's not only when they speak South Afrikaans,
which doesn't sound, you know, it's Dutch words
kind of, but they have a weird, more
British sounding accent than Dutch.
Anyway, Blue Acorn came in with, yeah, we
just thought it was something about it.
It was Uncle Sam doing a cannonball right
onto a drug boat.
It was humorous.
That's the word.
noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can upload your
AI prompted slop, which is what most of
it is these days.
Although Blue Acorn, Blue Acorn, no, Blue Acorn
has some done some originals.
And we still have Nessworks out there and
there's people doing things.
We looked at other art.
Comic strip blogger, a lot of cheesecake.
Blue Acorn also did Trump with a kiss
tongue, which definitely was too gruesome.
And, you know, you're making it too complicated,
people.
You're way too in the details of these
pictures.
We don't need, you know, like really detailed
scenery.
It doesn't work on small album art.
It has to be big in your face
and funny.
And people are really trying to do like
cutesy little, well, I guess the AI is
doing that.
You know what I mean?
What am I trying to say?
Well, it's like safe and effective by Jeffrey
Ray with the bottle and all that.
Everything was so small.
You couldn't really deconstruct the narrative, which is
not what we deconstruct media, not the narrative.
But that's in the background.
There's newspapers that we don't need all that.
Safe and effective remedy for media malaise.
You can't read it.
No, it's too small.
Secretary of egg from Jeffrey Ray.
The secretary of egg is too small.
You can't read it.
And then there was the blue acorns chicken
head secretary of egg.
It's just kind of gruesome in some odd
way.
I can't tell you why it was a
little gruesome.
Yeah.
So, you know, don't try to do cute
scenery.
It has to be in your face.
It has to be upfront big.
Make it clear.
Put that in.
And then the nut fisting by blue acorn.
First of all, it wasn't fisting.
Santa wasn't fisting the nuts.
And they were like, they still had the
shells on them.
Yeah.
Peanuts with shells on it.
That's wrong.
You can.
You know, if you're going to get your
if an AI comes out like that, don't
don't put it on the.
Yeah, you're just embarrassing yourself.
So that's one way you can contribute.
Just embarrassing.
You can also contribute by supporting us financially.
And we always appreciate that.
We thank everybody.
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Who comes in with the rubber laser donation.
Three thousand three hundred and thirty three dollars
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India stand by.
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Wow.
Was this the guy who kept promising it?
No, no.
This is a different guy.
This guy is a first time donor.
Wow.
So he gets a deducing as well.
I guess we should.
You've been deduced.
Now he he asks for this is to
be read in a southern draw southern redneck
drawl.
Which, yeah, you can do it.
I am cracking buzz.
I hope this note finds you well.
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A Luwak coffee at the round table and
send me off with a long version of
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Rev. Al resists me much along with the
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And he wanted Luwak coffee.
Luwak.
Yes.
Nothing.
Ian Hickey's up.
Oh, I thought you had something to say.
Well, thank you very much, Horton.
That is, that really helps out today, especially.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Luwak coffee.
Got it.
And I will analyze your southern redneck.
That was actually a Texas accent.
Yeah, he did drift to Georgia a little
bit.
Yes.
But it was the regular Texas accent that
the people would normally have.
Not that my favorite one, which is Fort
Worth, where he is constantly making noise.
Onward to.
Oh, yes.
Ian Hickey.
Ian Hickey, Williamsport, Pennsylvania.
And he came with a thousand.
Thanks for the show.
I was introduced to you, the show in
2025, June.
I have not been a daily listener.
However, I value your time and effort.
I very much enjoy your perspective and banter.
We had a lot of banter today.
Romans 5, 6, 8.
Please read on the air.
Fellow brother in Christ, Ian Hickey.
Romans 5, 6, 8.
New IV.
You see, at just the right time when
we were still powerless, Christ died for the
ungodly.
Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous
person, though for a good person, someone might
possibly dare to die.
But God demonstrates his own love for us
in this.
While we were still sinners, Christ died for
us.
There you go.
Thank you, Ian.
I think you get an international peace prize
for that.
Sir Hare Heal in White Salmon, Washington.
333.33. He wants F cancer and a
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He says here's to another year of no
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Sir Hare Heal.
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He's in Mount Ockham.
Uh, that's in California somewhere.
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And Gwen sends us a row of ducks
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Gentlemen, this is a written note.
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She hit me in the mouth about five
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God bless you both.
Thank you for your courage.
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I think that was Gwen Sobieski, not go
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Oh, I'm sorry.
Sobieski.
Yes.
Gwen Sobieski.
It was cut off on the note.
I was reading it.
Couldn't see it.
Yes.
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He's up already.
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Today's the 12th.
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Even Eli, the coffee guy, knows it.
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You don't have any friends for a white
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Well, that wraps- I find this protective
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I had Bobby the Op has been out
and about making a ma-ha, ma-ha,
making America healthy again.
And it's very interesting, the things he's saying,
the things he's doing.
He really wants to change airport food, which
I thought was rather amusing.
Not just airport food.
I fly typically over the past 30 years,
probably average 250 days a year in airports.
And I can tell you that this is
where healthy diets go to die.
The food that's available at the airport, a
lot of it tastes very good, but it's
not very good for you.
It's deep fried food.
It's sugar bombs.
It's ultra processed foods.
And all of them are going to leave
you sicker than before you ate them.
And one of the things that Secretary Duffy
is encouraging these airports to do is to
open up new options like the one you
see behind you, Farmer's Fridge, is the availability
of nursing spaces, nursing pods, nursing rooms.
All of the ingenuity of corporate America, all
the resources, all the resourcefulness has not produced
an infant formula that is superior in nutrition
and all the qualities that we want to
the infant formula that God made, which is
the infant formula in a mother's breast.
We at HHS are encouraging mothers to breastfeed
as long as possible, because there is no
better food for your brain, for your gut
microbiome, for your physical growth, for your emotional
growth, than what's in God given breast milk.
I don't know.
So wait, let me get this straight.
So they're going to change the airport food
to mother's milk.
Is that right?
Yeah, I think it was very strange combination
that he one two punch he had there.
And then he also was doing pull ups.
So I miss I miss the pull ups.
Oh, no, he's going to watch gyms in
the in the airport.
Yeah.
And so he him and Duffy, I guess
it's Duffy.
We're they're doing pull ups and Duffy can
do pull ups better than Kennedy.
It's kind of funny.
I never thought of that.
Well, he was.
But they're doing these pull ups in Kennedy
as he's doing him.
He's you know, he's got he's wearing a
he's dressed the hilt, of course.
He's always fully dressed when he does exercise.
And these armpits were all soaked.
So I'm so I'm to understand that you're
going to have people work out just before
they get on a plane.
So they stink to high heaven when they
sit next to you.
This is not a good idea.
Well, I wasn't sure what to make of
it myself.
I mean, he went from Cinnabons to to
breast milk.
It was just it was a bit, you
know, the San Francisco Airport, for example.
I don't know if he flies anything but
private because most airports, big airports, they have
a food court that has a lot of
good food in it, not just processed crap.
Well, another reason to stay in California.
The airport food is delightful.
It's not bad.
I'm telling you, the San Francisco has got
a couple of Chinese restaurants, his airport food.
It's not I got it.
I get it.
Ask him for you.
Now, wait, I want to finish with my
second Bobby the op clip because, oh, Bobby,
still he said something that we all knew.
But now he says it.
So now people are, oh, really?
There's a chemical.
Now, the second most used chemical in this
country and pesticide in this country is atrazine.
It's banned in Europe and all over the
world.
But we use it here.
It's in 63 percent of our drinking water.
There's a famous African-American scientist named Tyler
Hayes, who's at the University of Berkeley.
He did a famous experiment.
There is no such thing up on the
Internet.
There's no such thing as what?
University of Berkeley.
OK, but I thought it was interesting.
He had to say it was African-American.
How about there's an American scientist?
But OK, there's a famous African-American scientist
named Tyler Hayes.
It's unnecessary.
That's his background as a Democrat.
Yes, there's there's the Democrat coming out.
Hey, man, I'm virtue signaling to y'all.
He's African-American, OK?
Who's at the University of Berkeley?
He did a famous experiment that anybody can
look up on the Internet.
He put 70 African water frogs in an
aquarium.
He put atrazine in the water of that
aquarium.
There was less than EPA's level.
So it's less than the levels we have
in 63 percent of our water supply.
60 of those frogs became sterile.
They're all male frogs.
60 became sterile.
10 percent of those frogs turned female and
they were able to produce frogs for eggs.
So it changed their sex.
And of course, normally, you know, when you
see something like that in an animal model,
the first thing you want to do is
test it in a mammalian model and a
human model.
Those tests were never done.
I don't like them putting chemicals in the
water that turn the friggin frogs gay.
We actually had the clip at least 10
years ago of that professor at Cal Berkeley
on this show discussing this in great detail
because he was on the Amy Goodman show
telling us about this.
And it was over a decade ago.
Yeah, you can look it up.
I mean, if you look up atrazine in
your database, you'll probably find it.
I have 2017.
I don't know who that was.
Say this was the gender bending nature of
this drug, atrazine nailed it.
Well, initially, we found that the larynx of
the voice box in exposed males didn't grow
properly.
Oh, there's Bobby right there.
His voice box didn't grow properly because of
the frogs that were the water he's drinking.
You know, this is an old clip from
a decade ago.
It may now that you play it, it's
got new information, new information, man.
And this was an indication that the male
hormone testosterone was not being produced at appropriate
levels.
And eventually we found that not only did
where these males demasculinized or chemically castrated, but
they also were starting to develop ovaries or
starting to develop eggs.
And eventually we discovered that these males didn't
breed properly, that some of the males actually
completely turned into females.
So we had genetic males that were laying
eggs and reproducing as females.
And now we're starting to show that some
of these males actually show, I guess what
we call homosexual behavior.
They actually prefer to mate with other males.
And left that out, Bobby the op, you
left out the gay part.
Very important.
I'm glad you called for that, John.
And our fantastic sister.
In our ridiculous archives.
Pulled it up right away.
That is the truth.
From the man himself, the African-American scientist.
Yeah, wow.
Too bad it was Amy Goodman, but otherwise
dynamite.
Nobody else would put the guy on.
Yeah, that's the real problem.
You get Amy Goodman gets credit for stuff
she shouldn't get credit for because the rest
of the media is so damned lazy.
Yeah, so I have a couple.
Well, I don't.
I do have a ask Adam, but you
already got this.
You already had a failed.
Now I know that was a botch.
It was a botch.
What was Pornhub's most searched term of 2025
in the United States?
Oh, let me.
I'm not looking it up.
I'm literally just trying to think.
Pornhub's most searched term.
So we're pretty.
We're pretty degenerate here in America.
I would say midget porn.
Lesbian.
Really?
Yeah, lesbian is number one.
Worldwide.
It was hentai.
Hentai?
Yeah, anime porn.
Followed by MILF, PNA, which is a Filipino.
Lesbian is like fourth on the national international
list and anal.
And here's an interesting little point.
Yeah, this is stuff we need to know.
This is very important information.
Now on the search, this is a very
interesting part.
SFW, not safe for work content, is somehow
increasing on the very much not safe for
work Pornhub.
SFW ASMR is up 56%, for example.
Meanwhile, the podcast category has soared 327%.
The podcast category of what?
Search.
They search for podcasts on Pornhub.
They're looking for porn.
This is an opportunity here.
Let me see.
First, let me see if we're even on
Spotify yet.
We've been tracking this for a week and
a half.
And let's see.
I'm logging into creators.spotify.com and it's
thinking about it.
And wow, they deleted my entire entry.
What?
Yeah.
That's because you've been badmouthing them for years
and years.
There's probably a non-disparagement clause in their
contract.
Oh man, they're like, no, no, you can't
upload this podcast.
After they were stealing it?
Yeah.
How do we upload to Pornhub?
We need to upload the podcast to Pornhub.
There we go.
It's up 327.
There's got to be people asking for podcasts.
We've got to be there.
Imagine that.
The hot new place for podcasts is Pornhub.
By the way, I should probably play this
since we're talking about hot new podcasts.
Award season is in full swing.
And this morning, we now know who's nominated
for a Golden Globe.
But for the first time, we now know
which podcasts are nominated.
Podcast.
Oh, the podcast.
Best podcast.
Armchair expert with Dax Shepard.
Wandering.
Caller Daddy.
Sirius XM.
Caller Daddy.
Good Hang with Amy Poehler.
Spotify.
The Mel Robbins Podcast.
Sirius XM.
Smart List.
Sirius XM.
Up First.
NPR.
Okay, so those are some big names and
big podcasts.
Worth noting, Smart List, which includes host Jason
Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett.
Well, Will's ex-wife is Amy Poehler.
So they're in the same category.
Oh, wow.
Two sons.
So it could be a little friendly competition.
Now, I'm going to just say this, because
I've already seen articles, and I've already seen
comments on social media.
And people are saying- You already know.
You already know.
Why did Joe Rogan's podcast not get nominated?
That's the elephant in the room.
It's the number one podcast to listen to.
You and I, and a lot of people
in the industry know firsthand, you have to
submit your podcast.
It's called for consideration.
If Joe Rogan and his team did not
want to submit their podcast, they wouldn't have
been nominated.
$500.
What?
Yep.
$500.
Another scam award.
Well, you know, I'm still waiting for you
to set it up.
You know, I said, I'm good to go.
The podcast awards.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
What else- One reminder's all I'll need.
What else are you going to do with
your time?
Well, apparently, I'm not going to go out
shopping.
Watch this in 3D.
I got a clip here of, well, by
the way, since you're talking about entertainment, you
might as well play this, which is the
Iceland boycott of your favorite event.
Oh, yes, of course.
Iceland has joined four other European countries boycotting
next year's Eurovision song contest because of Israel's
participation.
The Icelandic National Broadcasting Service said the European
Broadcasting Union's decision last week to greenlight Israel
had damaged the contest's reputation.
Yeah, it turns out there's a little bit
more to it.
This is the divest, boycott, divest, and what
is it?
Boycott, divest, sell or something.
Boycott, divest something.
These are all countries whose governments are still
buying Israeli military technology.
So it's coordinated.
It's coordinated against the governments.
The whole thing is dubious because you have
Iceland.
What has Iceland got to do with anything
going on in the Middle East, one way
or the other?
Nothing, that's what.
No, of course not.
They don't care.
So they're getting, oh, I'm going to, we're
going to boycott.
What garbage.
This is like the lefties doing something.
I have two clips.
Let me play a clip here because you
interrupted me before the whole donation segment.
I did?
Yes.
I want to talk to you about solastalgia
because you might be suffering from it.
What is it?
Solastalgia is a term coined to describe the
distress people feel when their home environment is
damaged.
It's been linked to a significant mental health
strain.
A review published in BMJ Mental Health looked
at research from countries, including Australia, Germany, Peru
and the United States.
It found that people experiencing solastalgia often due
to climate change, mining or natural disasters had
higher rates of anxiety, depression and psychological distress.
The evidence also suggests that the stronger a
person's emotional connection was to where they live,
the greater their distress over changes or degradation
to the environment.
The study authors say more long-term research
is needed to fully understand how solastalgia affects
mental health in the long term.
But they urge communities and health professionals to
recognize it as a real measurable source of
psychological stress.
Seven out of 10 doctors and the American
Psychology Association recommend listening to the No Agenda
show to reduce the symptoms of solastalgia.
I've heard that.
Yes.
Now I have a climate, you might as
well play my climate change WTF clip, which
is pronounced limet.
Climate change.
OK, in 30 minutes, keep up to date
with news hour at 21 GMT.
It's the climate question asking what does the
ocean do for us and the planet?
The whole of our civilization and of human
history has been shaped by the ocean because
how the ocean moves dictates where the heat
goes.
It dictates what the weather's like on land.
That's followed by health check.
Wait a minute.
If this is the teaser for a show,
but if the oceans determine everything about weather
and climate and temperatures, then what does man
have to do with it?
That's what they said.
I'm not even going to entertain this question.
This is not a valid Ask Adam.
This is too dumb.
It wasn't an Ask Adam.
The Ask Adam was about Pornhub.
Yes.
You're losing.
You're losing track.
Yeah, well, I'm trying to figure out how
to get us out of here.
But here is.
Again, is that we're done now?
Well, we first we have to talk about
how bad things are from the from vaccines.
Every year, egg and sperm donations help thousands
of people with fertility issues start families of
their own.
But a Europe wide investigation has found that
one sperm donor who fathered nearly 200 children
unwittingly passed away on a genetic mutation that
dramatically increased their risk of cancer.
Celine, not her real name, is a single
mother in France whose child was conceived 14
years ago.
She received a call from her fertility clinic
in Belgium urging her to get her daughter
screened.
She told us of her fears over the
possibility her child may develop cancer.
We have translated her words.
We don't know when, we don't know which
one, and we don't know how many.
I understand that there's a high chance it's
going to happen.
And when it does, we'll fight.
And if there are several, we'll fight several
times.
The most unacceptable thing for me is that
I was given sperm that wasn't clean, that
wasn't safe, that carried a risk that hadn't
been properly tested.
That's the most unacceptable thing for me.
He was not aware, I believe, that he
was a carrier of a mutated gene.
So I have absolutely no hard feelings towards
him.
Some of the children have already died and
only a minority who inherited the mutation will
manage to avoid the disease entirely.
So this was kind of interesting to me.
There's a cancer gene now that they've isolated
and they can say, if this is in
your sperm, then you're probably going to, your
kid will have cancer.
Is that the takeaway from this?
This is all part of the depopulation scheme.
It's bullcrap.
Yeah, the No Agenda Show, besides helping your
solastalgia, also has available, for a Rubalizer donation,
clean sperm.
California clean sperm.
Adam is working on it as we speak.
California clean sperm.
Usually during the show.
Well, we
have a very few people to thank on
the second part here.
In fact, it's very few.
It's a total donations were poor for a
Thursday to say the least.
And it could be for a lot of
different reasons.
Give me one.
Give me one reason.
The economy is not doing as well as
Trump claims.
There's no affordability.
This is the affordable podcast.
This is what kills me.
It's crazy.
So Adam's going to read off or give
a thank you to these people over 50.
And we start with Sir Roland from Lincoln,
Nebraska with the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
We love that.
Thank you, Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina,
10535.
Alexander Bell.
I don't know if it's a Graham in
there.
He's from Opelika, Alabama.
With the, oh, with the boob donation.
Came in above our typical lover of America
and boobs.
The Archduke of Luna, Kevin McLaughlin, with his
8008.
And he says, PSA, gentlemen, please check the
temperature of her sweater puppies.
Donald Thompson, St. Charles, Missouri, with the ham
donation, 7373.
Scott Riley, Meridian, Idaho.
He says, please add my dad, Sir Stephen
of the Big Horton Basin to the birthday
list.
He's on it.
Chad Hewitt, Folsom, California, 664.
That's where, there's a jail there, isn't there?
Folsom, Folsom City.
Yeah, it used to be a maximum security.
That's where Charlie Manson was put up.
That's where Johnny Cash sang the blues.
Ryan Tierney, Stephen City, Virginia, 5678.
Love it.
Brittany Miller, Trinidad, Colorado, Trinidad, 5272.
Bad ideas supply, $50 and 50 cents.
Rene Knigge in Utrecht in the Netherlands, 50.
Oh, these are the 50s.
Roderick Brown from Mermaid, what's PE, California?
No, Canada.
No, this is Canada.
Prince Edward Island, Canada.
There we go.
Stephen Shoemake, Xenia, Ohio.
Tim Del Vecchio, Blandon, Pennsylvania.
Scott Otto, well, he needs a de-douching
for his $50 support.
You've been de-douched.
Michael Stepniksa in Vienna, Virginia.
Merry Christmas.
Thanks for keeping me informed and amused.
Paul Terranova, Webster, Massachusetts, 50.
And James Farrell, neighbor of Paul, apparently, in
Haverhill, Massachusetts, $50.
We appreciate the support.
Thank you all.
And again, thanks to our executive and associate
executive producers for episode 1824.
It's value for value.
All you got to do is listen to
the show.
If you get any value of it, send
that back in some numbers.
You can make up the numbers.
We love all the different numbers.
We love the numerology.
Noagendadonations.com.
Thank you all for supporting us today.
Noagendadonations.com.
Sir Fred Pound Forge Andrew, Central Indiana, turned
56.
And he wishes his dog Chip a very
happy birthday.
Chip turned 13 on December 8th.
Horton turned 64 on December 9th.
So belated happy birthday to him.
Gwen Serbiski, happy birthday to her sister, Beth
Booz Johnson, celebrated on the 10th.
Dasha, happy birthday to the love of her
life, Mark Stewart.
He celebrates tomorrow.
Or if you're listening to this show, it
was today.
Scott Riley, to wind it up, wishes his
father, Sir Stephen of the Bighorn Basin, a
very happy birthday.
And we say happy birthday from everybody here
at the best podcast in the universe.
Yes, we do have three title changes today.
Sir Horton of the Who.
Of course, he becomes the Baron of Whoville.
We heard him earlier on with his Robilizer
donation.
Sir Rich of the Backyard now becomes Baronet
Sir Rich of the Backyard.
And Sir Schwartz becomes Sir Schwartz, Baron of
the Woke Bashing Culprits, Overtax, Gitmo, Little Mermaid.
Well, there you go.
And now we welcome not one, but two,
No Agenda International Peace Prize winners, well-deserved
thanks to your support of the No Agenda
show in the amount of $1,000 or
more.
And we congratulate Horton, soon to be the
Baron of Whoville, or actually officially is the
Baron of Whoville, with this No Agenda International
Peace Prize.
And Ian Hickey, also recipient of a No
Agenda International Peace Prize.
Gentlemen, these are coveted.
The promotion is ending.
The peace is over.
And that's why you need to go to
noagendarings.com.
Let us know what name you'd like on
it, where you'd like it to send us
to.
And that will be one of the last
International Peace Prizes.
It is a peace prize season, so you
got to get it while stocks last.
We have one knighting.
No surprise who it is.
So if you can give me that blade,
we'll take care of everything all in one
go.
Of course, Horton, who just blew us away
today and helped us out in this time
of unaffordability with a Robolizer donation.
And I'm very proud to pronunciate him as
Sir Horton of the Who, upgraded to the
Baron of Whoville.
For you, sir, by your request, we have,
of course, hookers and blow, Renfrews and Chardonnay.
We've got Luwak Coffee.
I hope it tastes good.
It's people are kind of giving it the
side eye at the round table.
Along with that, Rubenes, Rumen and Rose, Gases
and Sake, Vodka and Vanilla, Bong, Hits and
Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and
Gerbils, Fist Nook and Pablum, and Pumped at
the Airport, and Mutton and Mead, all here
for you at the round table.
You also go to noagenderrings.com.
Let us know your ring size.
There's a ring size guide on the website,
and we'll send it off to you.
And thank you for supporting The No Agenda
Show in a fantastic fashion.
We got one meetup report.
It's a belated meetup report because they sent
the email and sent pictures.
And I love it when people send pictures
of their meetups.
We had two lovely ladies who just had
a meetup together, and that's completely valid.
Didn't do a report, but we did get
a rather long report from the Spokane Turkey
trots.
But it's fun.
Everybody's in there.
Wait a minute.
There was two women that had a meetup
and no guys showed up?
That's correct.
Yeah.
What's wrong with these guys?
I don't know.
And their server took a picture of them.
They're hanging out.
They love talking about all current events.
Love us.
Love us to death.
Let me see.
What was their names?
I should have probably written that down.
Let me see.
Meetup.
Where is the meetup?
I don't know what happened to it.
Send it again, ladies.
I want to thank you.
Anyway, let's hear from the Turkey trot meetup.
Hey, that would be this one.
Hi, Crackpot.
Hi, Buzzkill.
This is Grandma Flinner.
And this is Bill.
I'm the Queen Bee.
We're inside now that it's raining, but I
was tending the fires to make sure they
are smoking hot, just like me.
Jack from Post Falls, coming and meeting wonderful
people at the Turkey Trot today.
Connection is protection.
Hey, it's Sir Scott the Jew here from
the North Idaho Sanity Brigade here hanging out,
much to my everlasting chagrin, on the other
side of the border in Washington, to say
thanks, John and Adam, for working on this
Thanksgiving holiday like you do all holidays.
This is Mackenzie.
And this is Marshall.
Brought our two human resources, getting our boots
wet at this Turkey Trot in the morning.
This is Cody.
And this is Christina.
Back at the Flynn house doing some Thanksgiving
stuffing in the morning.
Person here with boots on the ground looking
for the spook.
Connection is protection in the morning.
Sharon here getting wet while doing some huffing
and puffing to make room for some Thanksgiving
stuffing in the morning.
Ann Marie here trotting with these Flint turkeys
and friends in the morning.
Hi, this is Michelle in the morning.
I can't believe Dennis put our Turkey Trot
on the meetups, but connection is protection and
we welcome Gitmo Nation.
Love listening to your pod together on the
road trips.
Dennis made me say pod.
He's such a douche bag.
This is Dennis Flinner.
The findings.
So thankful for my smoking hot wife, Michelle,
who makes all things possible.
And we've never had a fight.
John, it was pretty bad art.
So I get how you could pass on
my Dvorak double.
But Adam, how could you pass on my
deep fake dudes?
It wasn't even orange.
That's bogative, man.
I'm so offended.
Shout out to the Smith clan in Anchorage.
Several of them hit me in the mouth,
but Paul Willie was the first.
The real question is, are any, if any,
of Paul, Dan, Pete, Matt or Al douchebags?
I love my truck and I love what
I do.
All aboard!
Ah, JCD Sound Machine making an entrance there.
It was Dame Patricia from Miami and Dame
Aquamarine who have the small group.
Say we're a small group, but meet regularly
for happy hour and talk about current events
through no agenda eyes.
That's what I'm talking about.
Doesn't have to be big.
It can be as small as just two.
Go to noagendameetups.com.
Find all of them there.
And if you really want to get that
connection that gives you protection and, of course,
meet some people who will be your first
responders in an emergency, go to noagendameetups.com.
If you can't find one near you, start
one yourself, even if it's just two of
you.
I got a lot of ISOs here.
We got a lot.
Oh, let's start.
Let's go.
I don't think you're going to win from
me today.
Here we go.
I'll just pass again.
Here we go.
10 out of 10.
That's amazing.
Okay.
It's pretty impressive work.
Mm hmm.
Whoa, whoa, wow.
Yeah, yeah.
I like that one.
Yeah.
If only something somewhere made sense somehow.
It's cute, but not for sure.
And then...
Yeah.
All right.
That's what I got.
So you kind of like the...
Whoa, whoa, wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was pretty good.
You want to go up against mine?
You want to try it?
I think I can.
Yeah, I mean, it's not great.
It's good.
Let's start with Fab.
You can listen to this fabulous show for
free?
Wow.
That is a bad ISO.
People think it's free, like free beer.
Like we don't need any donations.
That goes against everything you stand for.
It's a good end to show clip because
you can listen to it for free.
Okay.
Okay, let's go with podcasts.
Why aren't all podcasts this great?
Nah, it's too muddled.
No.
Yeah, she's a little muddy in that one.
It's the same voice, believe it or not.
I just changed it to tempo.
No, I believe it.
Okay, try Holy.
Holy moly, gosh darn.
These guys are great.
I think it's between...
You can listen to this fabulous show for
free?
Wow.
Or...
Whoa, whoa, wow.
You choose.
I'm going to give it to you.
Only because of the point you made.
Time for the tip of the day.
Okay, it's back to the well with websites.
By the way, I got my knife.
Oh, isn't that thing something?
That is quite something, but I only took
it out just for a moment because I'm
waiting for my chain mail gloves to come
in.
Because I'm afraid, you said, and it's true,
this is the kind you can throw the
tomato in the air and it'll slice on
the blade.
That's true.
Take a piece of paper and just...
You can not only cut through the paper,
but you can cut really slowly through the
paper.
I'm afraid to handle it, man.
It's like, you freak me out about that.
It's a pretty sharp knife.
You have to know what you're doing.
It could hurt me.
Yeah, I don't want to be hurt.
I don't want you to get hurt either.
I'm sorry you bought it.
But that's a killer.
And it's full of 67 times.
You can see the little pattern on there
where the blade's been heated and cooled.
49 bucks.
I mean, what a bargain.
It was ridiculously cheap.
It was a good deal.
Yeah.
Somebody sent me a note.
It's one of our producers saying, I don't
know about this tip of the day idea.
You're telling people to buy knives and TVs
and all this stuff.
That's money that they could be donating to
the show.
That's what he said.
And I didn't know how to react to
that.
Because he's right.
Well, this next tip of the day is
not going to affect donations at all.
Because it's a website that I recommend people
put on their list of websites.
And it's called rxlist.com.
Okay.
And it's every drug that they sell, generic
and otherwise, it's a list of every drug
with everything you need to know about the
drug.
For example, you look up a drug, it
gives you the generic name, the brand name
or names, the drug class.
And then it gives you a summary with
all the contraindications, all the things that make
you sick.
And all the warnings and everything that you
never get normally, including the dosage and everything.
So if somebody misdoses it, you got all
this information.
It's really a fabulous site.
rx.com?
rxlist.com.
Oh, rxlist.com.
Wow.
So that's basically a list of stuff you
don't want.
It's everything.
So maybe you want some of it.
I'm not sure.
Well, there it is.
We're better than the FDA.
It is John's tip of the day.
Find them all at tipoftheday.net.
By the way, I discovered that the tip
of the day has Amazon affiliate links for
all of your tips.
No, it doesn't.
Sure did.
None of the tips that I gave.
Okay.
There might be Amazon affiliate links on the
tips that are on tipoftheday.com.
That's what I'm saying.
The tipoftheday.net.
Well, then they're making money off of us.
Then they should donate.
As long as they donate.
They should donate.
As long as they donate.
I don't think No Agenda Fund does that.
Oh, no, no.
Tipoftheday.net.
But as long as they donate something, I'm
okay with it.
Yeah, well, they should be donating a lot.
You know, a good...
They should be 20%.
Coming up next.
20% of the take.
Coming up next on your No Agenda stream
is that Larry show.
Danger Christmas Grifts is the title of that
one.
And the show mixes from Secret Agent Paul,
Melo D and MVP.
That concludes our broadcast day.
We will return for you on Sunday.
Please meet us there.
If you don't, I'll say Merry Christmas in
advance.
Advance.
And remember us at noagendathedonations.com.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C.
Dvorak.
See you next time on Sunday.
Until then, adios, mofos.
Ahoy, hoy.
And such.
I don't want to live around black people.
No, no.
I'm a racist.
I am a racist.
I don't want to live around Jews, women
and blacks.
No, no.
I want to avoid black people.
I don't want to live around black people.
No, no.
I'm a racist.
I am a racist.
I can absolutely say I don't want to
be living anywhere near black people.
I've got no problem saying that.
I'm a racist.
I am a racist.
I'm a racist.
I am a racist.
I'm a racist.
I am a racist.
The black shootings.
The black crime.
I don't like blacks.
No, no.
Killings in the Caribbean.
And what that means in the law is
that not only should we not be talking
about these things in terms of war crimes,
we should be talking about these things as
simple murders.
War crimes all the time.
Ladies and gentlemen, step right up.
Don't be shy.
See the greatest magic trick beneath the American
sky.
Forget arrest and trial.
Forget the appeal and the plea.
We're here for the ultimate reset.
In American history.
Well, you're tangled with the feds.
You were caught red-handed, true.
Your lawyer's looking sweaty and the jury's giving
you the boo.
The judge just dropped the hammer, said, son,
your future's bleak.
You're facing down many years for the drug
running you did last week.
You're thinking orange jumpsuits and a whole lot
of regret.
But then you find a number a powerful
name you haven't met.
You dial the White House line or slip
a note through the back door.
Heard your friends with the president need a
favor.
Nothing more.
Oh, the presidential pardon.
It's a beautiful clean slate.
It's the ultimate.
I veto over cruel cold federal fate.
It's a gift for the connected, the wealthy
and the friends.
The crime you just forgot before the very
bitter end.
It ain't about justice.
It ain't about the law.
It's about having a handshake that outpranks everyone
you saw.
Yeah, POTUS here.
They call it mercy.
I call it executive flair.
One big stroke of the DJT signature and
you're breathing free air.
Podcast in the universe.
Adios, mofo.
Dvorak.org slash NNG.
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