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Oh, now you've connected the dots.

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Adam Curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Sunday, July 27, 2025.

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This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media

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Assassination Episode 1785.

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This is no agenda.

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Everything's F.E.G. And we're broadcasting live

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from the heart of the Texas Hill Country

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here in FEMA Region No.

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6.

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Good evening and good morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry.

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And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm fogged

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in.

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I'm John C.

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Dvorak.

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Here's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.

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Yeah, it must be July in San Francisco.

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It happens every year.

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Yeah, Bay Area.

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Fog.

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I wake up, it's foggy.

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Cold.

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Oh, boy.

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And you know, it has been one of

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the mildest summers I've ever witnessed in Hill

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Country.

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Or in Texas in general.

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Global warming.

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In Texas in general.

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It's just, it's really, it's been nice.

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It's been really, really nice.

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So I wasn't able to get a clip.

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Because no one had anything.

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It started just before we came, before we

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got on the air live.

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We have a deal.

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We have a deal.

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We got a huge deal.

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Did you hear about the huge deal?

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Well, I heard that about an hour ago,

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Trump said, I saw the live press conference

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and he said, we should have a deal

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in a half an hour.

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We had to wait a half an hour.

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What was going to change?

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Because they were inking the deal.

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So it looks like, I think Queen Ursula

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folded.

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And we got ourselves a deal.

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Between the European Union and the United States.

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And President Trump looks very happy.

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But it was kind of telegraphed already.

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Did you see anything of the European Union

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-China summit?

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I saw none of it.

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Wow.

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All of a sudden Queen Ursula is sounding

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like President Trump.

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A few figures.

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Today the European Union accounts for an impressive

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14.5% of China's total exports.

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Yet China only represents 8% of our

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These numbers speak to the scale of our

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relationship.

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But they also expose a growing unbalance.

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It is mostly due to an increasing number

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of trade distortions and market access barriers.

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But unlike other major markets, Europe keeps its

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market open to Chinese goods.

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This reflects our long-standing commitment to rules

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-based trade.

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However, this openness is not matched by China.

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The European Union's trade deficit with China has

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doubled in the last decade.

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Reaching more than 300 billion euros by now.

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We have reached a clear inflection point.

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As we said to the Chinese leadership, for

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trade to remain mutual beneficial, it must become

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more balanced.

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Europe welcomes competition.

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We like competition.

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But competition has to be fair.

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Pretty much the same problem we had.

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Well, it's about time they figured it out.

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And this was even more interesting.

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What did she wave around as the only

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other option if China doesn't return to rules

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-based trade?

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Everything is, play fair.

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Please play fair.

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She brought out the T word.

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The need to rebalance our relationship is even

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more urgent in today's context of the global

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rise of tariffs.

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As two of the world's largest economies, the

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European Union and China share a responsibility to

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uphold and reform the global trading system so

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we can keep it open, fair, and grounded

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on rules.

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This responsibility also extends to upholding international norms,

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rules, and institutions.

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And this is why we raised the critical

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issue of China's support for Russia's war of

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aggression against Ukraine.

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This has a direct and dangerous impact on

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Europe's security.

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And we expressed together our expectations that China

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would follow up on our concerns and the

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expectation that it would use its influence to

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bring Russia to accept a ceasefire, to come

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to the negotiation table, enter peace talks, and

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put an end to the bloodshed.

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How China continues to interact with Putin's war

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will be a determining factor for our relations

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going forward.

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So the way I see it, China went,

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no.

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And then she went, oh, okay.

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We'll just do business with the United States

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then.

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Seems pretty simple to me.

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Well, China, this is going to catch up

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to them eventually.

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They've gotten away with it.

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I mean, the Chinese even knew this because

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they had talked about turning inward, a Chinese

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technique, usual technique of dealing with issues.

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What does that mean, turning inward?

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They create their own market and just sell

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to themselves.

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Isn't that illegal?

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Just kidding.

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What?

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I'm just kidding.

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They're going to sell their own stupid solar

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panels to themselves?

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That's what they have too much of.

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They've subsidized all this stuff.

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Their whole system is based on overproduction.

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And then dumping it cheap on other countries

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like the EU.

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And us.

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So I think a big part of this

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deal was Europe.

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Surprise, surprise.

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Europe is going to spend a lot of

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their 700 billion euros earmarked for weapons on

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U.S. weapons.

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What are the chances?

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What are the chances?

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Well, that's all we – what else do

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we do?

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We sell agricultural products.

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We sell that.

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They weren't buying that either.

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Apparently, they're going to start buying something.

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Supposedly.

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Give them our GMO corn.

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Let's send them that.

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Well, we can send them GMO corn or

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a lousy wheat.

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All the poisonous stuff we grow.

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Send it to them.

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So the president is in Scotland today and

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the Scottish are out protesting.

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At least that's what the M5M is showing

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us.

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And what's really interesting, I watched probably 20,

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25 minutes of man-on-the-street interviews.

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And these are not organized protests.

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These are really – they're handmade signs.

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Poorly made handmade signs.

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Like, can they not even draw properly there?

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And what's interesting is they just hate Trump.

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They say, well, we don't like what he's

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– no one says what he's doing.

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They just hate him.

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Listen to this.

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I'm very much against everything that Trump stands

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for and what he's doing in America.

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So I want people to know, the Americans

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know, that we are very much pro them,

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their democracy.

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But we really want the lies, the falsehoods,

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the racism, the fascism to stop.

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So that's why we're all – The racism

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and the fascism.

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Huh?

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No, the talking points – I have some

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clips, too, I want to get to.

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The talk – which are from NPR, which

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will back up your clips.

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But these are just American talking points.

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These are setups.

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This is not real.

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This is bullcrap.

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Soros or somebody paying some people to stand

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around.

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They say themselves there's 100 people.

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Oh, no, it's a small crowd.

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But it's the same thing as No King's

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Day, basically.

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Where everyone was just standing around saying, No

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King!

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Well, what's the problem?

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We just don't want a king!

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There's nothing.

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There's no content.

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So that's why we're all demonstrating today.

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He shouldn't be here.

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You know, we shouldn't give him airtime.

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You know, somebody like that, who has those

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standards, I don't think should be welcome in

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this country.

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I'm here just to show my support for

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the people that think the same way as

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me.

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And basically – I'm just here for the

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other people who are here who have no

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message.

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I detest everything Donald Trump stands for.

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You sometimes wonder if, you know, protest works

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and people listen to it.

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But that's the only tool that we have

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for democracy and to show our dislike of

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Donald Trump, basically, and what he stands for.

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Shut up!

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Don't let them talk.

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What are you going blah, blah, blah for?

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Because that's blah, blah, blah.

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She's not saying anything.

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That's the point.

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That's the point.

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There's one last guy here who tries to

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make a point.

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Dislike of Donald Trump, basically, and what he

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stands for.

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I'm pretty much – I'm an immigrant myself.

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I've come from Italy here to Scotland.

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And I stand pretty much against everything that

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Trump does.

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And I think Scotland should reject Trump in

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a strong way.

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Because – just to send a signal that

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the majority of the people in the world

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don't agree with what he's doing in terms

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of, like, the genocide in Palestine and the

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treatment of immigrants in the U.S. All

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right, so Trump is genociding in Israel or

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something like that, and the immigrants.

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And that was the only thing – the

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only – actually, the president brought two messages

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the minute he got off the plane.

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Probably both are being celebrated by the people

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not holding the signs.

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You better get your act together.

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You're not going to have Europe anymore.

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You've got to get your act together.

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And we, you know, as you know, last

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month we had nobody entering our country.

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Nobody.

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Shut it down.

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And we took out a lot of bad

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people that got there with Biden.

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Biden was a total stiff.

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And what he allowed to happen.

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But you're allowing it to happen to your

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countries.

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And you've got to stop this horrible invasion

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that's happening to Europe.

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Many countries in Europe.

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Some people – some leaders have not let

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it happen.

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And they're not getting the proper credit.

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I could name them to you right now,

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but I'm not going to embarrass the other

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ones.

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But stop – this immigration is killing Europe.

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And the other thing, stop the windmills killing

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the beauty of your countries.

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Thank you very much, everybody.

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Stop the windmills.

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That's what they focused on on PBS.

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The windmills?

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Really?

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Well, the EU is still all in on

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the green energy transition.

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What do you have for me?

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Before you go there, I got these clips

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of Trump in Scotland.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Let's do it.

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First of all, there's the overview clip we

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can play or not play, which is Trump

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in Scotland NPR, which is just their general

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clip.

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Which doesn't have the good stuff.

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Well, we need an overview just for prosperity.

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President Trump is in Scotland this weekend, visiting

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his golf resorts and meeting with British and

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European leaders.

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A major security operation is underway for his

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visit, with officers around the UK brought in

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to support Scottish police.

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But some locals are concerned about the scale

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and cost of the operation.

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NPR's Fatemeh Al-Qassab reports.

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President Trump's visit to his golf courses on

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opposite sides of the country has prompted a

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major police operation around Scotland, which is expected

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to cost Scottish taxpayers millions of dollars.

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Kerry Walsh from Glasgow says she's not sure

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it's worth it.

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So much is being spent on him being

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here, and I don't know what the benefit

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of him being here is, if I'm honest.

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The Scottish Police Union says resources are stretched,

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and it may take officers much longer to

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respond to other incidents over the weekend as

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a result.

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Protesters are planning what they are calling a

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festival of resistance to the president's visit.

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Oh, well, that's what we heard, a festival

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of resistance.

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That's almost a show title.

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They're playing into the stereotype of the Scots

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being cheap bastards.

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With what?

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Oh, they're worried about the price.

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Oh, it's so expensive.

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Oh, yeah.

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I thought that was kind of a...

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Now we have, we might as well play

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the Scott, we have Scott Simon.

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Oh, but how could I not be ready

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for that?

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I don't know.

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How is beyond me?

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I don't even know where, here he is.

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I need to...

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Suffering succotash.

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I'm Scott Simon.

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President Trump is...

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The weekend show up first, but I have

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it down here as the first.

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And the clip, the first, there's three clips

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here, which has a punchline.

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The first NPR Trump in Scotland hit piece.

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In Scotland, the home country of his late

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mother, President Trump will be playing golf, promoting

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the golf resorts he owns there and meeting

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with British and European leaders.

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But questions about other things have followed him

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there.

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Gaza, the Federal Reserve and his dead former

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friend, the sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

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Wow.

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And there are protests.

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Wow, his dead former friend.

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Wow.

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Oh.

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Is that good?

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Yeah.

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That is good.

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His dead former friend, the sex offender Jeffrey

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Epstein.

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And there are protesters.

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And Pierce Lauren Frayer is at a demonstration

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in Edinburgh, joins us from there.

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Lauren, thanks for being with us.

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Thanks for having me, Scott.

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What kind of welcome is the president receiving

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in Scotland?

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Well, I'm outside the U.S. consulate in

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Edinburgh, where several hundred people gathered today.

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There are Scottish bagpipers.

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One of them is holding a sign that

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says, at least this bag of hot air

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serves a purpose.

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There are Palestinian flags over the crowd.

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I also see a sign that says, Scotland

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is already great.

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A reference to, you know, making anything great

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again.

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Protest organizers here call this a festival of

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resistance.

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Here's protester Niamh Cunvin-Smith.

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Why on earth is this convicted felon allowed

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to come into our country and play golf

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when the people do not like him?

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A recent poll found that more than 70

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% of people in Scotland have an unfavorable

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view of Trump.

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That's higher than across the entire United Kingdom.

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People here say they're motivated by Trump's climate

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policy.

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In fact, some climate protesters actually abseiled, belayed

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themselves on ropes down off a bridge here

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last night.

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Others say they're protesting U.S. policy in

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the Middle East.

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Many Scots are also angry at the cost

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to taxpayers of Trump's visit here.

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And there are even a few Jeffrey Epstein

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posters in the mix here.

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Yeah, some of the headlines were, convicted felon

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visits Scotland.

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Oh, those British tabloids.

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It's unbelievable.

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This is the kind of hit piece.

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It's not news at all.

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It's just a hit piece.

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And it gets worse, but it doesn't get

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to the third clip, which is the real

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killer, showing that they're just, they can't even

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do a good report.

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This is the first NPR Trump in Scotland,

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too.

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A topic that the president might have hoped

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to leave on this side of the Atlantic,

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I should think.

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Probably, but it's one of the things that

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the traveling press asked him about moments after

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Air Force One touched down here last night.

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Trump denied ever being briefed that his name

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might be in the Epstein files.

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He said he has the power to pardon

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Epstein's ex, Ghislaine Maxwell, who is in prison,

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but that he hasn't thought about doing that.

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And he said, if you're going to talk

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about Epstein...

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Talk about all of his friends.

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Talk about the hedge fund guys that were

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with him all the time.

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Don't talk about Trump.

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So Trump was dodging questions about Epstein here.

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But it's not just the media talking about

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this.

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Scottish protesters stealthily put up a sign outside

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of one of Trump's golf resorts here this

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week that says, quote, "'Twinned with Epstein Island.'"

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The president does have deep family ties to

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Scotland.

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As we mentioned, his late mother was born

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and raised there.

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Do Scots like to consider him a native

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son?

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Yeah, I mean, his mother was born on

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the Isle of Lewis in the Outer Hebrides

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Islands, a place that Trump once, on a

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visit, called Serious Scotland.

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Her first language was actually Gaelic.

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Trump has long owned golf resorts here, so

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Scots have been well acquainted with him for

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a long time, even before he became president.

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Trump says he loves Scotland, but he's also

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been critical of its environment policy, for example.

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He's called for the country to scrap what

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he calls windmills, renewable energy wind turbines.

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He considers them an eyesore.

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He's called on Scotland to double down on

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energy from fossil fuels instead.

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Oh, man.

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And, of course, Scotland has a huge supply

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of fossil fuels off their coast.

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Yes.

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It's called gas.

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I mean, it's a monster, it's a monster

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source, and they do, oh, let's put up

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some windmills.

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It's pretty funny.

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And ruin, ruin the seascape.

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Ruin is so bad.

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So we go to this last clip, which

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shows the kind of crappy reporting they're doing

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on NPR, even though they run commercial after

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commercial.

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I have a couple of them on here

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about their needing more money.

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This is the first Trump, Scott 3, WTF

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clip.

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And when you...

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See if you can hear the slant, the

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way they slant the conclusion.

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Here's an Edinburgh bartender.

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I spoke with Cam Page.

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I mean, the first thing I saw going

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on about it was the windmills and all

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that.

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I think it's a bit weird that the

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first thing he does when he comes here

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is just mourning and complaining.

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He kind of just wants Trump to butt

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out of his country's energy policy.

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He never said that.

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He never said that.

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At the very end, she makes up a

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conclusion the guy never said.

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If the guy said he wants Trump to

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butt out of his energy policies, why doesn't

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she ask the guy on tape?

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Why didn't she play that instead of saying

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it herself?

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Well, she has to justify her reason for

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existence in Scotland on this trip, on this

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gambit.

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As soon as they said the bartender, I

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started clipping it.

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I said, oh, but the bartender will be

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down to earth.

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Joke around.

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He says, oh, he didn't say anything other

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than what you'd expect from a bartender.

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And then she makes up a conclusion.

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Oh, it's unbelievable.

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NPR, we should defund them.

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Oh, wait.

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We already did.

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Yeah.

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Since we're on these guys, playing a couple

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of these clips, this is the way the

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show starts.

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This clip is the first NPR, Scott and

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Alicia.

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He's teamed up.

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He only works on the weekends, makes $400

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,000 plus a year.

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That really bothers you, doesn't it?

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We only work two days a week.

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We just don't make his kind of money.

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We have the same basic deal.

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No, everybody at NPR makes $400,000 a

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year.

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And so they team him up with Alicia,

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the black woman who just is a screecher.

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And it must, I think they did it

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to torture him, to be honest about it,

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because he's kind of old school broadcaster.

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But let's listen to this.

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Here's the classic opening.

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President Trump is in Scotland.

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But it can't escape questions about Jeffrey Epstein.

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You're making a very big thing over something

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that's not a big thing.

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I'm Aisha Roscoe.

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And I'm Scott Simon, and this is Up

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First from NPR News.

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Trump and his allies call it alligator Alcatraz,

562
00:20:00,810 --> 00:20:03,450
the immigration detention center in Florida's Everglades.

563
00:20:04,130 --> 00:20:06,370
Now, people being held there say guards are

564
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abusive.

565
00:20:13,210 --> 00:20:16,250
What do officials say about these allegations?

566
00:20:16,770 --> 00:20:19,110
Also, there's anxiety about where the economy is

567
00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:21,510
headed, for sure, but the stock market is

568
00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:22,750
hitting record highs.

569
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Why?

570
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Stay with us.

571
00:20:24,590 --> 00:20:25,590
We'll have the news you need.

572
00:20:25,610 --> 00:20:25,990
Why?

573
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Well edited.

574
00:20:31,610 --> 00:20:32,290
Oh, man.

575
00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:34,410
They got some expensive editing going on over

576
00:20:34,410 --> 00:20:34,710
there.

577
00:20:35,010 --> 00:20:37,610
Well, then here, this is the end of

578
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the way the show ends.

579
00:20:39,570 --> 00:20:44,290
Another thing these people make, they make more

580
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money than typical radio.

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This is upfront NPR credits.

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And that's Up First for July 26, 2025.

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I'm Aisha Roscoe.

584
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And I'm Scott Simon.

585
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Today's podcast was produced by the discerning and

586
00:20:57,810 --> 00:20:58,490
astute.

587
00:20:58,490 --> 00:20:59,990
Wait, why is he laughing?

588
00:21:01,150 --> 00:21:02,850
Is he laughing because it was produced?

589
00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:04,510
He's laughing because he knows what they're paying.

590
00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:05,790
Oh, no.

591
00:21:06,010 --> 00:21:06,610
I'm Aisha Roscoe.

592
00:21:06,790 --> 00:21:07,650
And I'm Scott Simon.

593
00:21:07,770 --> 00:21:10,670
Today's podcast was produced by the discerning and

594
00:21:10,670 --> 00:21:14,170
astute Elena Turek, with help from Fernando Naro,

595
00:21:14,350 --> 00:21:16,610
who possesses a piercing mind.

596
00:21:16,610 --> 00:21:18,550
Do not face off with them during a

597
00:21:18,550 --> 00:21:19,190
trivia night.

598
00:21:19,330 --> 00:21:20,930
They will wipe the floor with you.

599
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:23,210
Our editors are the fantastic four.

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Susanna Capilouto, Pahlavi Gogoi, Jacob Benston, and Melissa

601
00:21:28,270 --> 00:21:28,650
Gray.

602
00:21:29,410 --> 00:21:30,630
Maybe they're the fab four.

603
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:32,850
It's hard to tell because they're certainly here,

604
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:34,610
there, and everywhere.

605
00:21:35,130 --> 00:21:38,850
Okay, Scott, tell us who else is fab.

606
00:21:39,250 --> 00:21:39,710
I agree.

607
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That was a little creepy.

608
00:21:40,670 --> 00:21:43,470
David Greenberg, our technical director, and our engineering

609
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support comes from Tom Marchito and Zach Coleman.

610
00:21:47,710 --> 00:21:50,430
Andy Craig is our director, which he does

611
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with the fluid effort of a master.

612
00:21:52,650 --> 00:21:55,330
He makes it look easy, but it's not.

613
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Which is why we have bosses.

614
00:21:57,970 --> 00:22:00,630
Shannon Rhodes, our acting senior supervising editor.

615
00:22:01,090 --> 00:22:03,130
She's not just acting, she's commanding.

616
00:22:03,550 --> 00:22:06,210
Evie Stone, our executive producer, very commanding.

617
00:22:06,330 --> 00:22:08,230
Jim Kane, our deputy managing editor.

618
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:11,490
He's our very own Jean-Luc Picard.

619
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When he says, make it so, so we

620
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do it.

621
00:22:15,670 --> 00:22:16,950
Well, that was very bizarre.

622
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Did they have to fill time?

623
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I guess so.

624
00:22:20,570 --> 00:22:21,850
It's only a half hour show and they

625
00:22:21,850 --> 00:22:22,870
couldn't fill it, I guess.

626
00:22:23,930 --> 00:22:26,490
The people producing that show, how many was

627
00:22:26,490 --> 00:22:26,670
that?

628
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Fifteen.

629
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Oh, I counted fourteen.

630
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Fifteen.

631
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Fifteen plus the two of them.

632
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That's a lot of people.

633
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We have thousands of producers.

634
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Yes, we do.

635
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That's why we're better.

636
00:22:41,690 --> 00:22:43,890
And, dare I say, that's why they call

637
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us the best podcast in the universe.

638
00:22:45,910 --> 00:22:48,410
Far better than the top 100 from Time.

639
00:22:48,850 --> 00:22:50,330
People are so mad about that.

640
00:22:51,450 --> 00:22:53,490
I can't believe people still care what Time

641
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Magazine says at all.

642
00:22:55,890 --> 00:22:57,790
Is it even a magazine anymore, just an

643
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online website?

644
00:22:59,430 --> 00:23:00,310
Oh, that's a good question.

645
00:23:00,470 --> 00:23:01,310
I think it may just be.

646
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It's a blog.

647
00:23:02,610 --> 00:23:03,390
It's a sub-stack.

648
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:04,130
I think it's a blog.

649
00:23:04,270 --> 00:23:04,710
It's a blog.

650
00:23:06,250 --> 00:23:06,690
Yeah.

651
00:23:06,690 --> 00:23:09,010
Well, everyone, you know, a couple people got

652
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to go to Scotland.

653
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So, you know, it's good, I guess.

654
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Yeah.

655
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I guess.

656
00:23:19,910 --> 00:23:20,870
I was looking at one.

657
00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:25,410
Fox sent Jackie Heinrich, I think is her

658
00:23:25,410 --> 00:23:25,710
name.

659
00:23:26,290 --> 00:23:28,910
And it looks like a completely different person.

660
00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:31,590
Because when she's in the studio or in

661
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the country, she's got professional makeup.

662
00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:38,510
And then she has, I guess, when you're

663
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on the Trump trip, they didn't send a

664
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:41,450
makeup artist with her.

665
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:43,150
And it's just like, is this the same

666
00:23:43,150 --> 00:23:43,530
woman?

667
00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:47,780
Well, yeah, makeup can do a lot.

668
00:23:48,140 --> 00:23:51,920
Well, since NPR could not stop bringing up

669
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,060
Epstein, might as well just play the latest,

670
00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:56,180
which we all pretty much know about by

671
00:23:56,180 --> 00:23:56,500
now.

672
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,900
This morning, President Trump is calling the Jeffrey

673
00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:02,360
Epstein controversy a scam, accusing Democrats of using

674
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unreleased court records to distract from his political

675
00:24:05,020 --> 00:24:05,740
success.

676
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,480
Trump comparing the investigation to the so-called

677
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,620
Russia hoax, saying, quote, they have gone absolutely

678
00:24:11,620 --> 00:24:12,140
crazy.

679
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Adding, as things are revealed, and I hope

680
00:24:14,380 --> 00:24:16,400
will take place quickly, you will see that

681
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,480
it is yet another Democrat con job.

682
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But the pressure to release the files is

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a bipartisan effort, Democrats and Republicans demanding answers.

684
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I want all the information out.

685
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Just put everything out.

686
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Make it as transparent as you can.

687
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Release the damn files.

688
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,060
The Justice Department searching for answers of its

689
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own.

690
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,660
Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch meeting with Epstein's

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00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:38,840
convicted co-conspirator, Galen Maxwell.

692
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Well, she answered all the questions and answered

693
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:42,700
them honestly.

694
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The closed-door meeting lasted six hours yesterday

695
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and is expected to resume today.

696
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,740
Blanch's meeting with the convicted sex trafficker is

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part of the Justice Department's effort to uncover,

698
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,200
quote, information about anyone who has committed crimes

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against victims.

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Those sources say it was Maxwell who reached

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out to the DOJ to request the meeting.

702
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,740
She's currently appealing her conviction to the Supreme

703
00:25:02,740 --> 00:25:03,180
Court.

704
00:25:03,340 --> 00:25:04,880
There were a lot of questions, and we

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went all day.

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And she answered every one of them.

707
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She never just said, I'm not going to

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00:25:10,460 --> 00:25:11,560
answer, never declined.

709
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And she answered them all truthfully.

710
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,980
Oh, Joe, you answered every question.

711
00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:17,740
Truthfully.

712
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,720
I had another report.

713
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,760
This one.

714
00:25:22,860 --> 00:25:23,260
Yeah, hold on.

715
00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:25,600
President Trump is spending the weekend at his

716
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golf resort in Scotland, where he will celebrate

717
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,980
the opening of a new golf course.

718
00:25:30,340 --> 00:25:32,420
Next week, he will hold meetings on trade

719
00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:33,620
with European leaders.

720
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,020
The trip comes as here at home, Trump

721
00:25:36,020 --> 00:25:38,660
continues to face questions about Jeffrey Epstein.

722
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People should really focus on how well the

723
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:43,900
country is doing, or they should focus on

724
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:46,420
the fact that Barack Hussein Obama led a

725
00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:46,680
coup.

726
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,780
In Florida, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch, a

727
00:25:49,780 --> 00:25:52,720
former Trump criminal defense lawyer, has now conducted

728
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,020
two closed-door meetings with Epstein's co-conspirator,

729
00:25:56,380 --> 00:25:58,860
Ghislaine Maxwell, in an effort to quiet criticisms

730
00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:01,680
the administration is blocking access to.

731
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,060
How does that even quell criticism?

732
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:08,560
I think it only riles it up.

733
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,280
To quiet criticisms the administration is blocking access

734
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,460
to the Epstein files.

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00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,460
Maxwell is serving a 20-year prison term.

736
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,340
Defense Attorney David Marcus said that she is

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00:26:19,340 --> 00:26:20,540
cooperating freely.

738
00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:21,920
We haven't asked her anything.

739
00:26:22,260 --> 00:26:24,400
This is not a situation where we're asking

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anything in return for testimony or anything like

741
00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:28,080
that.

742
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,140
Yet the media have raised questions.

743
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,340
I'll play that again.

744
00:26:32,940 --> 00:26:33,120
Okay.

745
00:26:33,580 --> 00:26:35,100
Yeah, it's kind of odd the way he

746
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:35,580
said that.

747
00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:36,060
Here we go.

748
00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:37,560
We haven't asked her anything.

749
00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:39,580
What do you mean we haven't asked her

750
00:26:39,580 --> 00:26:39,940
anything?

751
00:26:40,260 --> 00:26:41,620
I thought he just said they talked to

752
00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:42,580
her for days on end.

753
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,460
What I think he's referring to is we

754
00:26:44,460 --> 00:26:47,920
haven't asked her to do anything like quid

755
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,740
pro quo.

756
00:26:48,740 --> 00:26:50,900
Yeah, I understand that's maybe what he meant,

757
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:51,980
but that's not what he said.

758
00:26:52,180 --> 00:26:54,100
Well, listen to the whole sentence.

759
00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:55,800
Cooperating freely.

760
00:26:56,220 --> 00:26:57,180
We haven't asked her anything.

761
00:26:57,500 --> 00:26:59,620
This is not a situation where we're asking

762
00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:03,040
anything in return for testimony or anything like

763
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:03,300
that.

764
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,950
Yet the media have raised questions.

765
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,080
Liz Oyer, a former U.S. pardon attorney,

766
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,820
was fired from the Justice Department in March.

767
00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:13,220
There's every reason to believe that they are

768
00:27:13,220 --> 00:27:15,160
seeking to make some sort of deal with

769
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,220
Maxwell that will help them solve this political

770
00:27:18,220 --> 00:27:19,020
crisis.

771
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,100
The president was asked if he is considering

772
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:22,400
a pardon for Maxwell.

773
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,380
A lot of people are asking me about

774
00:27:24,380 --> 00:27:24,860
pardons.

775
00:27:25,060 --> 00:27:27,320
Obviously, this is no time to be talking

776
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,120
about pardons.

777
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,500
On Friday, a plane flew a banner over

778
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:33,520
the courthouse meeting site accusing the president and

779
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,760
U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi of a

780
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,320
cover-up.

781
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,220
The president has called the scandal a hoax

782
00:27:39,220 --> 00:27:40,240
by the Democrats.

783
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,040
It's a hoax.

784
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,480
It's a hoax.

785
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:43,800
Hoax.

786
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,540
And so, of course, he keeps telling everybody

787
00:27:45,540 --> 00:27:46,320
to look at the coup.

788
00:27:46,580 --> 00:27:47,820
What's the hoax part?

789
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,640
I don't mind him calling what the Democrats

790
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,900
are doing a hoax, but what specifically is

791
00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:53,540
a hoax here?

792
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,580
Well, from the way I listen and hear

793
00:27:56,580 --> 00:27:59,360
the president, something in the papers is a

794
00:27:59,360 --> 00:27:59,520
hoax.

795
00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:00,460
The papers are a hoax.

796
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,040
It's a hoax.

797
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:01,660
It's the list.

798
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,220
It's a hoax.

799
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:02,960
It's all a hoax.

800
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:03,680
I don't know.

801
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,820
And I don't think we will ever really

802
00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:07,100
know.

803
00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:13,040
I did dig up—it's very short, unfortunately—in the

804
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,780
archives, because the accusation against former President Obama

805
00:28:17,780 --> 00:28:20,580
is that he led a coup.

806
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,400
And the way he led that coup, if

807
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,900
you listen to Tulsi Gabbard's endless yakking— Oh,

808
00:28:28,020 --> 00:28:28,340
man.

809
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,400
She's on every show.

810
00:28:31,780 --> 00:28:33,100
There's that sigh.

811
00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:37,440
I'll just have an apple.

812
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,020
Every single show.

813
00:28:40,140 --> 00:28:43,260
What she's really saying is that the intelligence

814
00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:48,840
community came with an ICA, an intelligence community

815
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:55,020
assessment, and said, well, there's really no there

816
00:28:55,020 --> 00:28:55,380
there.

817
00:28:56,060 --> 00:28:59,700
And then President Obama said, you voted wrong.

818
00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:02,280
Go back and get me another assessment.

819
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,780
And this was admitted by the Dumbo clapper.

820
00:29:05,780 --> 00:29:08,420
And this is him back in the day

821
00:29:08,420 --> 00:29:09,860
on Tapper's show.

822
00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:12,960
For President Obama, we might not have done

823
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,620
the intelligence community assessment that we did that

824
00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:18,040
set off a whole sequence of events which

825
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,500
are still unfolding today.

826
00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:22,200
President Obama is responsible for that, and it

827
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,260
was he who tasked us to do that

828
00:29:24,260 --> 00:29:26,520
intelligence community assessment in the first place.

829
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,740
Oh, there's Clapper.

830
00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:29,620
Oh, that's a clip of the day.

831
00:29:29,740 --> 00:29:32,120
Give yourself a round of applause for digging

832
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,360
up a historical clip.

833
00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:37,340
That was a winner.

834
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:38,520
How good is that?

835
00:29:39,020 --> 00:29:40,280
That's outstanding.

836
00:29:40,420 --> 00:29:41,520
No one has played that clip.

837
00:29:41,620 --> 00:29:43,180
That is the best thing we've done for

838
00:29:43,180 --> 00:29:43,540
weeks.

839
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,880
Oh, well, we've done other great things.

840
00:29:45,980 --> 00:29:46,660
We have definitely.

841
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:47,780
That's the best right there.

842
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,420
Oh, come on.

843
00:29:48,460 --> 00:29:50,600
Your tip of the day about mellow leather

844
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,220
was good.

845
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,080
Leather honey.

846
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,920
Mellow leather.

847
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:56,780
Whatever.

848
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,400
That's a soft drink, I think.

849
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,960
So there's something that's bothering me about this

850
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,920
whole thing because they're always going, they're making

851
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,260
a big fuss about, oh, the intelligence community

852
00:30:08,260 --> 00:30:10,880
is corrupt, and these guys are, you know,

853
00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:12,420
they're making a big fuss.

854
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,680
It seems to me that I don't understand

855
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,780
why the pundits out there and the people

856
00:30:16,780 --> 00:30:20,320
doing this analysis don't say what's actually happened.

857
00:30:20,620 --> 00:30:23,460
The intelligence community, and I'm not here to

858
00:30:23,460 --> 00:30:26,080
defend them, but they did their job.

859
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,300
They said there's no collusion going on, and

860
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:31,980
it was Brennan who was, yeah, he was

861
00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:34,380
a part of the intelligence community in a

862
00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:36,160
certain way, but he was running the agency,

863
00:30:36,460 --> 00:30:38,140
and he was a political guy, and who

864
00:30:38,140 --> 00:30:38,380
knows.

865
00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:40,660
And no one has still ever asked him

866
00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:42,520
if he's a Muslim or not, which really

867
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,640
irks me, because if you look up, go

868
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,300
to all the AI and ask if John

869
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:46,400
Brennan is a Muslim.

870
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,760
No, I'm not going to any AI.

871
00:30:47,820 --> 00:30:48,880
I'm not going to the AI.

872
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,220
Go anywhere and try to find out whether

873
00:30:51,220 --> 00:30:51,820
he's a Muslim.

874
00:30:51,940 --> 00:30:54,020
You find that there's evidence that he is,

875
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,160
but they all deny it.

876
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,520
And no reporter has ever said, hey, just

877
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,780
to clear up the record, are you a

878
00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:02,100
Muslim?

879
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:03,640
Because they say that when you were in

880
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,900
Saudi Arabia as a station chief in Riyadh,

881
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:11,380
you took the oath to uphold the tenets

882
00:31:11,380 --> 00:31:12,560
of Islam.

883
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,100
Yes or no?

884
00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:15,480
It's not a big deal.

885
00:31:15,580 --> 00:31:16,220
Just ask him.

886
00:31:16,260 --> 00:31:16,900
No one's done it.

887
00:31:17,260 --> 00:31:18,320
But this guy's the one.

888
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,280
He was the corrupt character there in front

889
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,720
that was running the agency.

890
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,420
The field people, the people that were the

891
00:31:26,420 --> 00:31:28,520
analysts who were doing their job, they kept

892
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,280
reporting back, no, this is bullcrap.

893
00:31:30,380 --> 00:31:31,740
Nothing's going on with Russia.

894
00:31:32,180 --> 00:31:33,660
And they said, well, you better get me

895
00:31:33,660 --> 00:31:34,020
a report.

896
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,860
He handpicked a couple of guys that would

897
00:31:35,860 --> 00:31:36,500
do his bidding.

898
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,820
You can't blame intelligence community for this.

899
00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:43,720
Well, I don't think they're any good.

900
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,140
Well, that's different.

901
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:53,120
Dan Bongino posted a shocking, shocking, shocking memo

902
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,820
on X.

903
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:58,340
This is how the headlines advertise it.

904
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,200
I shall read it for you.

905
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,400
Shocking.

906
00:32:01,660 --> 00:32:02,860
I shall read it for you verbatim.

907
00:32:03,620 --> 00:32:05,860
During my tenure here as the deputy director

908
00:32:05,860 --> 00:32:06,660
of the FBI.

909
00:32:06,740 --> 00:32:07,560
This is great.

910
00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:09,120
Yeah, I'm glad you got this.

911
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,740
I have repeatedly relayed to you that things

912
00:32:11,740 --> 00:32:14,720
are happening that might not be immediately visible,

913
00:32:14,940 --> 00:32:15,940
but they are happening.

914
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,600
The director and I are committed to stamping

915
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,920
out public corruption and the political weaponization of

916
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,380
both law enforcement and intelligence operations.

917
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,500
It is a priority for us.

918
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,320
But what I have learned in the course

919
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,000
of our properly predicated and necessary investigations into

920
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,420
these aforementioned matters has shocked me down to

921
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:36,100
my core.

922
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:40,400
We cannot run a republic like this.

923
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,520
I will never be the same after learning

924
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,460
what I've learned.

925
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,620
We are going to conduct these righteous and

926
00:32:46,620 --> 00:32:48,260
proper investigations by the book.

927
00:32:48,940 --> 00:32:51,100
That, by the way, is exactly what Susan

928
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:53,080
Rice wrote down in her Cover Your Ass

929
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:53,300
memo.

930
00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:53,880
By the book.

931
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,880
I think that's a callback to that.

932
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,360
And in accordance with the law, we are

933
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,040
going to get the answers we all deserve.

934
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,960
As with any investigation, I cannot predict where

935
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,320
it will land, but I can promise you

936
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,420
an honest and dignified effort at truth.

937
00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:10,320
Not my truth or your truth, but the

938
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:10,760
truth.

939
00:33:10,940 --> 00:33:15,120
God bless America and all those who defend

940
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:15,420
her.

941
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,760
Code Bongino.

942
00:33:21,140 --> 00:33:22,640
What is that?

943
00:33:23,620 --> 00:33:25,020
That was nuts.

944
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:25,800
I saw that.

945
00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:26,680
That's not so great.

946
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,140
All caps, by the way.

947
00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:28,500
Oh, yeah.

948
00:33:28,780 --> 00:33:30,680
A lot of all caps in there.

949
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,400
I think he's getting a lot of pressure.

950
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,540
You think?

951
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,820
And to go back to podcasting, go back

952
00:33:39,820 --> 00:33:41,880
to podcasting where you belong kind of thing,

953
00:33:42,420 --> 00:33:44,280
where he was doing very well.

954
00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:45,060
He was great.

955
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:45,840
Code Bongino.

956
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,320
Everyone knows it.

957
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,700
It still gives you a discount on many

958
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:50,280
websites.

959
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,980
And I, as of a month or so

960
00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:54,860
ago, thought that that's where his head at.

961
00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:56,600
He was headed back to the biz.

962
00:33:58,220 --> 00:34:00,460
But I think this may be his rationale,

963
00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:03,440
his rationale to stick around and be a

964
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,260
desk jockey, which is what he is.

965
00:34:05,260 --> 00:34:08,320
So Mike Baker was on Joe's show.

966
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,540
You know, Mike Baker, a quote, former CIA

967
00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:15,260
operative.

968
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,320
Mike Baker is to me, because he took

969
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,960
over that job.

970
00:34:22,020 --> 00:34:23,420
Presidential Daily Briefing.

971
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,280
Yeah.

972
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,620
And it's lame by comparison to what it

973
00:34:27,620 --> 00:34:29,159
was originally with the other guy.

974
00:34:29,620 --> 00:34:31,040
Why did he take over?

975
00:34:31,139 --> 00:34:31,840
What is that about?

976
00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:34,600
Because the other guy, there's something, I had

977
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,340
to go back to my notes to figure

978
00:34:36,340 --> 00:34:37,139
out why the other guy quit.

979
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:37,900
I know what it is.

980
00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:38,900
He said, hey, give me that.

981
00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:39,739
Give me that thing.

982
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,219
Give me that briefing thing.

983
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,540
What's that in your mouth?

984
00:34:43,139 --> 00:34:44,219
No, I don't think that was it.

985
00:34:44,380 --> 00:34:46,560
The other guy was being, it's owned by

986
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,420
some other guys.

987
00:34:47,580 --> 00:34:49,940
It's like one of these operations.

988
00:34:50,219 --> 00:34:52,100
It's like Beck or somebody owns it.

989
00:34:52,380 --> 00:34:53,760
Not Beck, but somebody like Beck.

990
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,360
And I think Mike Baker is central casting

991
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,960
more than he is a spook.

992
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:03,460
He just looks the part.

993
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,820
He looks like Pierce Brosnan.

994
00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:08,900
He's got a look to him that is

995
00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:10,660
just like, oh, okay, I'm a spy.

996
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:12,960
What are those other two guys?

997
00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:15,320
What's his name?

998
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,660
The guy with the big braids, the big

999
00:35:19,660 --> 00:35:20,520
poofy hair.

1000
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:27,160
He is a former, what is his name?

1001
00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:29,180
Everydayspy.com.

1002
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:31,480
Andrew Bustamante.

1003
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,540
Oh, yeah, Bustamante.

1004
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,420
That guy, I don't know.

1005
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,440
F and G right there, fake and gay,

1006
00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:39,880
G-H-E-Y.

1007
00:35:40,340 --> 00:35:41,720
And he was talking to another guy with

1008
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:42,460
the same hair.

1009
00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:45,280
It's a hair club for men.

1010
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,120
It totally is some kind of hair club

1011
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:48,600
for men.

1012
00:35:50,020 --> 00:35:52,820
Anyway, so Mike Baker is on Joe's show.

1013
00:35:53,060 --> 00:35:54,100
I get to say Joe.

1014
00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:56,880
Joe, my buddy.

1015
00:35:57,060 --> 00:35:57,920
Joe, Joe.

1016
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,140
You haven't gotten to Joey yet.

1017
00:36:01,820 --> 00:36:02,780
Oh, no, no, no.

1018
00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:04,560
There's no Joey in Joe.

1019
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,360
We don't do that.

1020
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,500
And so that's, of course, and Joe has

1021
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:10,760
him on for obvious reasons.

1022
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,860
It's the perfect time for that, for Baker

1023
00:36:13,860 --> 00:36:15,200
to come on because, you know, we all

1024
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:15,680
trust Baker.

1025
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,960
But Baker made an interesting point.

1026
00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:21,860
The reality is in terms of recruiting an

1027
00:36:21,860 --> 00:36:25,540
asset, recruiting an asset by using blackmail is

1028
00:36:25,540 --> 00:36:26,520
tough.

1029
00:36:26,780 --> 00:36:30,400
That window starts closing immediately in terms of

1030
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,360
their operational usefulness because there's a lot of

1031
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:34,980
issues there.

1032
00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:39,260
When someone says right like that all the

1033
00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:42,200
time, that just means bull crap to me,

1034
00:36:42,420 --> 00:36:42,520
right?

1035
00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:44,920
Right, right, right, like any Silicon Valley guy.

1036
00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:46,720
This is really the future, right?

1037
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,980
This is really going to change the whole

1038
00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:49,560
world, right?

1039
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,660
That window starts closing immediately, right, in terms

1040
00:36:52,660 --> 00:36:56,080
of their operational usefulness because there's a lot

1041
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,620
of issues there, right?

1042
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:01,100
You're blackmailing somebody for their cooperation.

1043
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,580
At some point, that's going to go south

1044
00:37:03,580 --> 00:37:04,200
on you, right?

1045
00:37:04,580 --> 00:37:07,020
It's not like you've recruited somebody for ideological

1046
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:10,140
reasons, right, or even something as straightforward as

1047
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:11,940
like they need the money because their kid's

1048
00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:12,960
sick or whatever it may be.

1049
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:14,880
So blackmail is like, but having said that,

1050
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,560
look, the Russians in particular love that, right?

1051
00:37:18,180 --> 00:37:21,520
Okay, so I didn't even realize how many

1052
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,380
times he says right, which is now annoying

1053
00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:25,800
me to no end.

1054
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,680
It should.

1055
00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:27,860
Oh, it's really bad.

1056
00:37:28,420 --> 00:37:31,060
But what he does here is he –

1057
00:37:31,060 --> 00:37:33,100
and this feels a bit like a setup

1058
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:33,580
to me.

1059
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,320
And I think that there's some validity to

1060
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,260
that, that to turn someone to become an

1061
00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:46,040
asset with blackmail may indeed not be a

1062
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,240
very secure way.

1063
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:48,480
It may be a great way to get

1064
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,640
someone to change their vote.

1065
00:37:50,780 --> 00:37:51,760
To vote a certain way.

1066
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:52,660
To vote a certain way.

1067
00:37:53,260 --> 00:37:55,540
And I don't know if we're really talking

1068
00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:57,460
about turning people into assets, right?

1069
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,360
But he brings up Russia at least five

1070
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,800
times, and I think it was subliminal, right?

1071
00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:06,680
But having said that, look, the Russians in

1072
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,040
particular love that, right?

1073
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,860
And Chinese intel, they'll do whatever works from

1074
00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:14,440
their perspective.

1075
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,740
You know, the agency – again, people are

1076
00:38:17,740 --> 00:38:18,480
going to say that's bullshit.

1077
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,220
The agency tries – the blackmail is –

1078
00:38:22,220 --> 00:38:24,560
I've got to dissect this guy now.

1079
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,520
Why would he say people are going to

1080
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,280
say that's bullshit?

1081
00:38:27,940 --> 00:38:28,720
I didn't think that.

1082
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,840
Did you think that right away?

1083
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:30,880
No.

1084
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,480
And why do you stutter, Stan?

1085
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,440
They – he's like all – he's wound

1086
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:36,780
up.

1087
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,860
Yes, he is.

1088
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,900
Oh, they'll do whatever works from their perspective.

1089
00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:44,200
You know, the agency – again, people are

1090
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:44,940
going to say that's bullshit.

1091
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,080
The agency tries – the blackmail is never

1092
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,500
really ever on the table as an option

1093
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:54,420
because it always leads to a problem.

1094
00:38:54,980 --> 00:38:58,360
And sometimes those problems can be very, very

1095
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:58,800
bad.

1096
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:00,720
And what do you mean by this?

1097
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:02,080
Well, you know, the asset will turn on

1098
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:02,580
you, right?

1099
00:39:02,660 --> 00:39:05,100
The next thing they know, you know, you've

1100
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:07,520
got an agent working now, a double agent

1101
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,320
working for the other side, right?

1102
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,780
Because they're just so fucked over by the

1103
00:39:11,780 --> 00:39:13,240
fact that they've been blackmailed.

1104
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,880
And at some point they lose their shit

1105
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,040
and decide to roll for the other side.

1106
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,680
But aren't you, like, constantly monitoring them and

1107
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,620
looking at their phone?

1108
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,620
There's only so much you can do, right,

1109
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,200
in terms of maintaining – particularly with a

1110
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,960
hard target, particularly with an asset who's in

1111
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,480
a difficult or challenging environment, you know, and

1112
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,320
you've got limited access to them, whatever it

1113
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:35,660
may be.

1114
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:38,720
So you're really relying on clandestine communications.

1115
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:39,720
You don't have a lot of face-to

1116
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:40,320
-face meetings.

1117
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,640
And at some point you never know when

1118
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,840
things are heading south, right?

1119
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,060
And then the next thing you know, look

1120
00:39:45,060 --> 00:39:49,760
– so that's the operational reason for trying

1121
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,260
to avoid blackmail, right?

1122
00:39:51,820 --> 00:39:52,800
Has it ever been done?

1123
00:39:52,860 --> 00:39:53,580
Well, sure, yeah.

1124
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,760
I mean, I'm not saying it hasn't been

1125
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:55,000
done.

1126
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:55,460
Of course.

1127
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,440
But some services go to it much quicker

1128
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,100
than others do.

1129
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,840
Which services?

1130
00:40:00,860 --> 00:40:03,820
Well, again, the Russians are primary users of

1131
00:40:03,820 --> 00:40:04,540
something like that.

1132
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,500
Because they've got a shotgun approach.

1133
00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:08,400
Israelis have been known to do that in

1134
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,340
the honeypot operations that they'll do and other

1135
00:40:10,340 --> 00:40:10,580
things.

1136
00:40:10,980 --> 00:40:11,960
But the Russians throw a lot of shit

1137
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,420
at the wall and see what sticks, right?

1138
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,840
It's very much a shotgun approach.

1139
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:17,160
I don't know.

1140
00:40:17,260 --> 00:40:19,500
He said Russia too much for my liking.

1141
00:40:20,060 --> 00:40:21,860
He said right too much for my liking.

1142
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:22,640
He's stammering.

1143
00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:27,140
Now, it's possible that he's – I mean,

1144
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,500
when you hear a guy present like that,

1145
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,240
he might still be working for the CIA

1146
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:37,120
or someone because he seems to be –

1147
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,540
I think that pattern of that style is

1148
00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:41,560
that you're constantly worried that you're going to

1149
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,000
say something you shouldn't say.

1150
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,900
And I think that's what accounts for the

1151
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:49,120
stammering, which is a way of stalling without

1152
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,200
slowing down because he can't seem to slow

1153
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:51,480
down.

1154
00:40:51,620 --> 00:40:53,260
He's all jacked up on something.

1155
00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:57,720
So it was basically a meaningless discussion.

1156
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,200
Right.

1157
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:00,380
Right.

1158
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,680
And the coincidence of him – We learned

1159
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:05,120
nothing.

1160
00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:07,360
We learned nothing from that discussion except that

1161
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,080
maybe blackmail is not the way to go.

1162
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,620
And I'm thinking it was probably a reasonable

1163
00:41:12,620 --> 00:41:12,940
point.

1164
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,700
Who's been blackmailed?

1165
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:14,680
Has he been blackmailed?

1166
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,820
Someone's been blackmailed in this process.

1167
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:18,820
Someone's being blackholed somewhere.

1168
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:20,740
I mean blackmailed.

1169
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,460
Mistake with cornhole.

1170
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:23,960
Yeah.

1171
00:41:24,660 --> 00:41:27,500
The whole thing is – I don't know.

1172
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,700
I don't know.

1173
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:29,660
I don't know if we'll ever know.

1174
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,160
It's all so disappointing.

1175
00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:33,180
That's just the bottom line.

1176
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,580
That's the name of the game.

1177
00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:35,260
It's disappointing.

1178
00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:36,120
It's just disappointing.

1179
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:38,120
I was talking to Tina about that.

1180
00:41:39,980 --> 00:41:42,580
It's like 17 and a half years, seven

1181
00:41:42,580 --> 00:41:43,980
years before I even knew you.

1182
00:41:44,860 --> 00:41:46,240
I was all in on this stuff.

1183
00:41:46,340 --> 00:41:47,240
This is going to be great.

1184
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,420
We're going to learn so much.

1185
00:41:48,460 --> 00:41:49,620
It's all going to come out in the

1186
00:41:49,620 --> 00:41:49,980
wash.

1187
00:41:50,340 --> 00:41:51,320
Nothing ever.

1188
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,140
Ever.

1189
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,760
And really the biggest psyop that's been going

1190
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:05,640
on since I'd say 2019, which is still

1191
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,660
going on today, is XRP.

1192
00:42:08,340 --> 00:42:08,860
Ripple.

1193
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:09,600
XRP.

1194
00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:12,120
Do you – I mean you may not

1195
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,380
recall, but I think I brought it up

1196
00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:13,940
on the show.

1197
00:42:14,340 --> 00:42:16,400
Probably jokingly even at the time.

1198
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,400
Like, look, I know a guy.

1199
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,860
He's involved with all this money, and the

1200
00:42:20,860 --> 00:42:22,380
money is all going into XRP.

1201
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:24,320
They have quantum networks.

1202
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,880
They have off-world servers.

1203
00:42:26,940 --> 00:42:27,340
Oh, yeah.

1204
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,560
Off-world servers.

1205
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,300
Off-world servers.

1206
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:29,420
That's my favorite.

1207
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,060
Yeah.

1208
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,140
They're on the moon.

1209
00:42:32,460 --> 00:42:33,940
And to this day, people are still –

1210
00:42:33,940 --> 00:42:34,200
Oh, no.

1211
00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:35,980
XRP is going to 1,000.

1212
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,660
And that has been around so long.

1213
00:42:41,860 --> 00:42:43,080
It's all these kinds of things.

1214
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,820
But it's quantum finances.

1215
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,320
You don't understand.

1216
00:42:47,540 --> 00:42:48,680
This is the stuff you don't get.

1217
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:48,880
Okay?

1218
00:42:49,460 --> 00:42:50,160
Quantum finances.

1219
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,120
Yeah.

1220
00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:54,480
The term you don't get it was very

1221
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,600
prevalent in the late 90s.

1222
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:58,360
With what?

1223
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,740
Under what circumstance?

1224
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,200
The new economy.

1225
00:43:03,260 --> 00:43:05,820
Oh, the new economy.

1226
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:06,420
Yes.

1227
00:43:06,580 --> 00:43:07,800
You don't get it, man.

1228
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,820
This is the new economy, okay?

1229
00:43:10,140 --> 00:43:11,500
This is a whole new thing.

1230
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:13,540
I was doing the show Silicon Spin, and

1231
00:43:13,540 --> 00:43:15,360
these guys would come on, and they were

1232
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,800
intelligent CEOs.

1233
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,980
And they had these crackpot ideas, and they

1234
00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:20,760
were going on and on.

1235
00:43:20,860 --> 00:43:22,360
And I would say – and I'd be

1236
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,060
questioning them as best I could.

1237
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,020
And they said, well, you just don't get

1238
00:43:26,020 --> 00:43:27,360
it because it's the new economy.

1239
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:27,800
Yeah.

1240
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,180
If things are going to change – Clicks

1241
00:43:29,180 --> 00:43:29,740
and mortar, man.

1242
00:43:29,740 --> 00:43:30,380
Clicks and mortar.

1243
00:43:30,580 --> 00:43:31,340
Clicks and – Ah!

1244
00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:33,420
Clicks and mortar.

1245
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:34,760
I forgot about that one.

1246
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,040
What other buzzwords did we have back in

1247
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:38,340
the day?

1248
00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:40,660
Oh, I did a whole column of them.

1249
00:43:40,780 --> 00:43:41,560
I have to go dig.

1250
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,320
I should dig it up.

1251
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,380
It's from the late 90s, and it has

1252
00:43:44,380 --> 00:43:45,240
like 100 of them.

1253
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:47,180
And there was just one after the other.

1254
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:47,940
They had nothing.

1255
00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:50,520
It was buzzword – it was the buzzword

1256
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,300
bonanza of the late 90s.

1257
00:43:52,380 --> 00:43:53,420
It was fabulous.

1258
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:55,780
Yeah.

1259
00:43:55,940 --> 00:43:57,680
So I got to – just you want

1260
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,900
to take a – Sorry.

1261
00:43:59,260 --> 00:44:02,060
Walk down an interesting topic.

1262
00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:02,940
Okay.

1263
00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:06,060
This is about the post office.

1264
00:44:06,220 --> 00:44:07,740
I have some post office clips, but I

1265
00:44:07,740 --> 00:44:09,120
want to start it off with an Ask

1266
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:09,420
Adam.

1267
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,860
Another thing I was completely unprepared for.

1268
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:14,460
Okay.

1269
00:44:15,260 --> 00:44:16,800
I got you on your heels.

1270
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,400
Yeah.

1271
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:19,440
Vivek.

1272
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:20,260
Here it is.

1273
00:44:20,380 --> 00:44:20,760
All right.

1274
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,240
Okay.

1275
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,140
I'm ready now.

1276
00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:24,420
Ask Adam.

1277
00:44:24,980 --> 00:44:25,820
Answer the question.

1278
00:44:25,980 --> 00:44:26,160
Go.

1279
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,260
All right.

1280
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,000
Okay.

1281
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,360
First play the Ask Adam question, and I'll

1282
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,260
ask you the question.

1283
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:35,440
On this day 250 years ago, the Continental

1284
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,980
Congress appointed the first postmaster general of the

1285
00:44:37,980 --> 00:44:38,780
United States.

1286
00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:39,360
Okay.

1287
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,000
250 years ago.

1288
00:44:41,380 --> 00:44:42,040
Who was it?

1289
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:42,920
The first – Yep.

1290
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,540
Paul Revere.

1291
00:44:45,740 --> 00:44:46,360
Nice try.

1292
00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:48,180
Let me think.

1293
00:44:48,260 --> 00:44:49,880
The first postmaster general.

1294
00:44:50,220 --> 00:44:50,940
Don't look it up.

1295
00:44:50,940 --> 00:44:51,920
No, I'm not looking it up.

1296
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,680
Who do you take me for?

1297
00:44:54,140 --> 00:44:54,360
Right?

1298
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:55,840
Right.

1299
00:44:57,460 --> 00:44:59,060
Because it seems like it's probably going to

1300
00:44:59,060 --> 00:45:00,360
be something very obvious.

1301
00:45:00,540 --> 00:45:04,100
250 years ago, so that was before the

1302
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,360
declaration of – before the – Yeah, I

1303
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,600
was right about the same time.

1304
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,260
As the declaration.

1305
00:45:09,940 --> 00:45:11,080
I have no idea.

1306
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,060
I presume you have it in the answer.

1307
00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:13,880
Yep.

1308
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,960
On this day 250 years ago, the Continental

1309
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,480
Congress appointed the first postmaster general of the

1310
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,300
United States, Benjamin Franklin.

1311
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,720
Ah, somehow I could have known that.

1312
00:45:24,420 --> 00:45:26,400
I don't know how because I could have

1313
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,900
known it too because when I heard it,

1314
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,480
that's why I came with the Ask Adam.

1315
00:45:29,620 --> 00:45:31,280
It feels so logical.

1316
00:45:31,620 --> 00:45:33,280
For some reason it feels logical.

1317
00:45:33,660 --> 00:45:35,180
There's some logic to it, but then there's

1318
00:45:35,180 --> 00:45:36,240
some illogic to it.

1319
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:38,640
I was kind of taking it back enough

1320
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,660
to put that up.

1321
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,220
So just to embarrass you, so that you

1322
00:45:43,220 --> 00:45:44,020
don't know anything.

1323
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,020
And the thing is, I don't feel embarrassed

1324
00:45:46,020 --> 00:45:46,420
at all.

1325
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,040
So fail.

1326
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:48,480
It's funny.

1327
00:45:48,580 --> 00:45:49,500
Absolutely fail.

1328
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:50,440
It's funny how that works.

1329
00:45:51,420 --> 00:45:53,840
I did not at all feel embarrassed.

1330
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:54,460
All right.

1331
00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:56,060
So post office.

1332
00:45:56,340 --> 00:45:58,980
Post office now is – because Trump is

1333
00:45:58,980 --> 00:46:00,540
a problem with the post office.

1334
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,020
Why is he a problem with the post

1335
00:46:02,020 --> 00:46:02,120
office?

1336
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,800
He wants to privatize it and this is

1337
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,140
no good.

1338
00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:06,040
No, no, no.

1339
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,560
I mean don't you have to change the

1340
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,160
constitution?

1341
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,380
You basically have to change the constitution.

1342
00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:16,220
But it's just – there's workarounds and they're

1343
00:46:16,220 --> 00:46:18,160
thinking about them and it's just like, no,

1344
00:46:18,260 --> 00:46:19,320
don't mess with it.

1345
00:46:19,380 --> 00:46:20,640
The post office is fine.

1346
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,400
But let's play these clips.

1347
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:24,000
There's three clips here that kind of give

1348
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,400
us what's going on currently.

1349
00:46:25,940 --> 00:46:27,660
David Steiner is the latest person.

1350
00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:31,000
Is Scott – is he on the vacation

1351
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,560
shift or the summer shift?

1352
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,040
These are Saturday clips.

1353
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:34,840
He's on Saturday.

1354
00:46:35,020 --> 00:46:35,760
He runs Saturday.

1355
00:46:36,060 --> 00:46:37,900
We have not heard him for weeks and

1356
00:46:37,900 --> 00:46:40,040
here he is in two series.

1357
00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:43,060
David Steiner is the latest person to hold

1358
00:46:43,060 --> 00:46:43,500
the office.

1359
00:46:43,660 --> 00:46:46,360
He is the 77th postmaster general.

1360
00:46:46,940 --> 00:46:48,860
Before taking office last week, he served on

1361
00:46:48,860 --> 00:46:49,840
the board of FedEx.

1362
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:54,100
Personal detail that reignites some worries about postal

1363
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:56,880
reforms that some fear could limit or end

1364
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,740
rural mail service.

1365
00:46:58,740 --> 00:47:01,600
The Midwest Newsroom's Nick Loomis has more on

1366
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,520
that and a note, USPS is a financial

1367
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,800
supporter of NPR.

1368
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,700
Gwen Smith walks from her front door to

1369
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:09,440
her mailbox and back six days a week.

1370
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,820
It's about a quarter mile.

1371
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,960
I would say it's a relatively short trip

1372
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,920
to the mailbox for us rural folks.

1373
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,440
She lives outside Scotts Bluff, Nebraska with her

1374
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,100
husband, Alan, who is recovering from surgery for

1375
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:20,660
liver cancer.

1376
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:24,260
He also suffers from diabetes, arthritis and the

1377
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:25,840
lingering effects of West Nile virus.

1378
00:47:26,620 --> 00:47:28,780
The former Navy corpsman gets most of his

1379
00:47:28,780 --> 00:47:31,060
medications through the mail from Veterans Affairs.

1380
00:47:36,740 --> 00:47:39,860
Former Postmaster General Louis DeJoy curtailed rural mail

1381
00:47:39,860 --> 00:47:42,720
service with his Delivering for America plan, which

1382
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:45,560
he introduced in 2021 to stem annual losses

1383
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:46,240
in the billions.

1384
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,980
Still, the deficits persist and mail delivery is

1385
00:47:49,980 --> 00:47:52,020
slower due to a reduction in work hours,

1386
00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:55,240
collection time changes and the consolidation of processing

1387
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:55,900
facilities.

1388
00:47:56,700 --> 00:47:59,180
Alan Smith worries about those changes and cuts

1389
00:47:59,180 --> 00:48:01,020
made to many other government programs.

1390
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:03,840
It feels to me like it's coming at

1391
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,740
me right and left.

1392
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,520
They're trying to destroy everything that supports me

1393
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,160
staying alive and functioning.

1394
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,300
President Trump has suggested privatizing the postal service

1395
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:13,260
in both of his terms.

1396
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,520
Most recently, he has said it could be

1397
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,020
brought under the Department of Commerce.

1398
00:48:17,820 --> 00:48:19,800
Congress set up the agency to be independent

1399
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,600
of the White House in 1971 and undoing

1400
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,400
that would require further legislation.

1401
00:48:25,140 --> 00:48:27,320
Even though this Congress has mostly adhered to

1402
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,820
Trump's agenda, the postal service is a touchy

1403
00:48:29,820 --> 00:48:32,940
political subject for lawmakers from rural states, like

1404
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:35,160
Republican Congressman Mike Flood of Nebraska.

1405
00:48:35,420 --> 00:48:36,380
Can it be modernized?

1406
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:36,960
Absolutely.

1407
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,400
Should it be privatized?

1408
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,440
I'd have to be sold on what the

1409
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,380
plan was before we went anywhere near that

1410
00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:45,580
because I know people in rural Nebraska rely

1411
00:48:45,580 --> 00:48:47,900
on the postal service in its current form.

1412
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:50,780
And currently, the postal service self-finances and

1413
00:48:50,780 --> 00:48:52,960
generally does not count on tax dollars to

1414
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,920
fill its budget gaps.

1415
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,160
I don't really understand why the postal service

1416
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,880
is always under fire.

1417
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,320
It says it self-finances.

1418
00:49:02,540 --> 00:49:05,340
They're not even using taxpayer money when I

1419
00:49:05,340 --> 00:49:07,460
heard that part of it, besides the other

1420
00:49:07,460 --> 00:49:08,760
parts of that crazy clip.

1421
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,420
I'm thinking, why not?

1422
00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:13,440
I mean, the government costs us money.

1423
00:49:13,620 --> 00:49:14,400
We all know it.

1424
00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:15,480
Everything costs money.

1425
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,580
And they're throwing money away on USAID for

1426
00:49:18,580 --> 00:49:22,680
gay sex in Guatemala and they can't pay

1427
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,700
for the post office's deficit?

1428
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,120
It makes no sense to me.

1429
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,420
Gay sex in Guatemala.

1430
00:49:28,780 --> 00:49:31,580
Was that really a line item in USAID?

1431
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:32,720
I think it was, yeah.

1432
00:49:32,860 --> 00:49:33,540
I'll have to check Doge.

1433
00:49:34,820 --> 00:49:38,080
Yeah, it just seems like the only thing

1434
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,680
it can be is somebody wants to give

1435
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,320
somebody a penny by privatizing, i.e. giving

1436
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,480
it to some other company.

1437
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:46,780
That's what it's all about.

1438
00:49:47,220 --> 00:49:47,720
There's some scam afoot.

1439
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,640
And that's what's happened all over Europe.

1440
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,860
DHL has taken over a lot of the

1441
00:49:54,860 --> 00:49:58,080
postal services around the world, actually.

1442
00:49:59,380 --> 00:50:01,000
Oh, they can do it much more efficiently.

1443
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,020
They can't.

1444
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,360
What makes them more efficient?

1445
00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:03,980
Nothing.

1446
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,280
They just charge more.

1447
00:50:05,820 --> 00:50:07,660
Do you see what it costs to send

1448
00:50:07,660 --> 00:50:08,660
something with FedEx?

1449
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:10,880
Oh, the FedEx is out of control.

1450
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,760
What used to be like, I think it

1451
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,440
was $6, $8, the letters, which was still

1452
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,140
pricey.

1453
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,480
It's like $25.

1454
00:50:19,140 --> 00:50:20,940
Yeah, just for afternoon delivery.

1455
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,200
Yeah, it's no good.

1456
00:50:23,420 --> 00:50:24,820
All right, post office 2.

1457
00:50:25,020 --> 00:50:27,240
Elena Patel of the Brookings Institution says it

1458
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:29,200
might be time to reconsider that because it

1459
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,320
provides a public service.

1460
00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:31,720
Yeah, bring in a think tank.

1461
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:32,060
Okay.

1462
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:34,060
We should be willing to compensate the postal

1463
00:50:34,060 --> 00:50:35,920
service for doing that, and we do not

1464
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:36,340
currently.

1465
00:50:36,340 --> 00:50:38,360
We don't come close to offsetting the costs

1466
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,340
of the USO for the postal service.

1467
00:50:58,740 --> 00:51:00,980
I think that people in the administration think

1468
00:51:00,980 --> 00:51:01,900
this is the right thing to do.

1469
00:51:01,980 --> 00:51:03,620
I'm not sure that the American people or

1470
00:51:03,620 --> 00:51:04,980
American business owners think that.

1471
00:51:08,660 --> 00:51:11,780
In February, Wells Fargo wrote a report outlining,

1472
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,140
among other things, how mail and parcel delivery

1473
00:51:14,140 --> 00:51:15,960
could be divvied up among the government and

1474
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,020
private companies like FedEx and UPS.

1475
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:21,100
A Wells Fargo spokesperson said in a statement

1476
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:23,140
that it was not recommending privatization.

1477
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,220
However, the American Postal Workers Union thought the

1478
00:51:26,220 --> 00:51:28,460
report was controversial enough to release an ad

1479
00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:28,840
about it.

1480
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,440
This is the Wall Street memo that the

1481
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,180
White House doesn't want you to see.

1482
00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:36,400
A path to privatization of the post office.

1483
00:51:36,820 --> 00:51:39,360
Union President Mark Dimenstein says the timing of

1484
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,100
the ad coincides with the 250th anniversary of

1485
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:43,980
the postal service and the arrival of the

1486
00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:47,040
new postmaster general, David Steiner, whose appointment was

1487
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,160
backed by Trump, as reported by the Washington

1488
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:49,580
Post.

1489
00:51:49,860 --> 00:51:51,780
It's the old saying, you know, the fox

1490
00:51:51,780 --> 00:51:52,800
guarding the henhouse.

1491
00:51:53,140 --> 00:51:54,920
Steiner left the board of FedEx to take

1492
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,140
the job, but a Securities and Exchange Commission

1493
00:51:57,140 --> 00:51:59,900
filing shows he retained company stock worth millions.

1494
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:00,480
Oh, no!

1495
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:03,480
Scoundrel!

1496
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,080
He's going to sell the stock, but it's

1497
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,000
beside the point.

1498
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,580
That's bullcrap, you know.

1499
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,280
I've always argued this, you know, if you

1500
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,180
worry, I worked for an oil refinery and

1501
00:52:13,180 --> 00:52:14,780
then I worked for the air pollution district

1502
00:52:14,780 --> 00:52:15,640
inspecting refineries.

1503
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,040
And all it meant was that I now

1504
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,360
was on the other side of the fence

1505
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,360
and I knew a lot.

1506
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,600
So, I mean, I knew more than someone

1507
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,840
who's never worked at a refinery.

1508
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,020
It's a benefit.

1509
00:52:26,180 --> 00:52:26,880
It was better.

1510
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,360
What was the original, back in Ben's days,

1511
00:52:30,820 --> 00:52:33,120
what was the original charter of the postal

1512
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,640
service?

1513
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,680
What was the idea?

1514
00:52:37,780 --> 00:52:40,080
The idea was it was important to have

1515
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:45,960
a society that had communications that was kind

1516
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,180
of franchised by the government.

1517
00:52:47,740 --> 00:52:50,080
So, everyone was assured that if you had

1518
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,280
to get a hold of somebody or send

1519
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,660
somebody something or mail obligations or whatever, it

1520
00:52:55,660 --> 00:52:57,420
was for communications purposes.

1521
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:58,840
Thank you.

1522
00:52:59,340 --> 00:52:59,860
No, thank you.

1523
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,580
This is good.

1524
00:53:00,860 --> 00:53:03,080
It wasn't about your Amazon packages.

1525
00:53:03,580 --> 00:53:05,400
It wasn't about your beef box.

1526
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,440
It wasn't even about your phone book.

1527
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:10,520
Remember those?

1528
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,300
It was really about a private communications service.

1529
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,980
And that's why there's...

1530
00:53:16,980 --> 00:53:17,540
That would benefit the country.

1531
00:53:17,540 --> 00:53:19,760
And that's why there's such heavy regulation on

1532
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,360
tampering with the U.S. mail.

1533
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,760
You can't go opening up people's envelopes.

1534
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:24,920
Right.

1535
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:25,600
It's illegal.

1536
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:26,440
It's illegal.

1537
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,780
And they'd love to get rid of that.

1538
00:53:29,300 --> 00:53:33,020
Well, what if the U.S., and this

1539
00:53:33,020 --> 00:53:34,980
is what I would be all for this.

1540
00:53:35,820 --> 00:53:39,280
What if the U.S. Postal Service modernized,

1541
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,300
give all the packages to FedEx and Amazon

1542
00:53:43,300 --> 00:53:44,800
and UPS and whatever.

1543
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:45,360
It's fine.

1544
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,440
Figure that out.

1545
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,640
Because actually, I think the returns probably kill

1546
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:51,060
everybody.

1547
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,780
But what if the U.S. Postal Service

1548
00:53:54,780 --> 00:53:58,800
ran an email service that was...

1549
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,760
And they made it easy for everybody to

1550
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,960
encrypt their messages on their side.

1551
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,520
So, none of this like, oh, don't worry,

1552
00:54:07,580 --> 00:54:08,820
we'll encrypt it in the cloud.

1553
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:09,480
None of that.

1554
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,980
Just encrypt it on your side.

1555
00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:16,420
And once someone has...

1556
00:54:16,420 --> 00:54:18,660
If I want to send you an email,

1557
00:54:18,820 --> 00:54:20,060
I have to have your public key.

1558
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,320
They could provide that directory service.

1559
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:24,900
So, you can easily find someone's public key.

1560
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:26,700
And then you can receive it.

1561
00:54:26,740 --> 00:54:29,400
And we can have true, secure communications.

1562
00:54:30,140 --> 00:54:33,120
And at the same time, with the brand

1563
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:38,760
new stablecoin, they charge a very nominal fee

1564
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,500
for sending a message to someone.

1565
00:54:42,220 --> 00:54:43,720
Which would do two things.

1566
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,760
One, it would, in theory, provide a real

1567
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,280
secure communication service.

1568
00:54:50,380 --> 00:54:51,340
And this can be done.

1569
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,560
I believe that it can be done without

1570
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,420
the government still spying on you.

1571
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:56,840
And two...

1572
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,860
The government wants to spy on you, but

1573
00:54:58,860 --> 00:54:59,380
continue.

1574
00:54:59,380 --> 00:55:03,180
And two, it would reduce spam, because spam

1575
00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:05,720
would then become unprofitable.

1576
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:08,560
And even if it was just for bull

1577
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,220
crap, I would love to have an email

1578
00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:13,800
box that works with...

1579
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,720
So, if I send 100 emails, I might

1580
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:18,000
wind up spending 10 cents.

1581
00:55:18,620 --> 00:55:19,500
It's fractional.

1582
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,480
It's digital.

1583
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,660
So, you can take your stablecoin, and you

1584
00:55:22,660 --> 00:55:25,100
can break it down into little stablecoinlets, or

1585
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:26,160
whatever we're going to call it.

1586
00:55:26,980 --> 00:55:27,460
Pennies.

1587
00:55:28,620 --> 00:55:29,520
Less than pennies.

1588
00:55:29,580 --> 00:55:30,880
It has to be less than pennies.

1589
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,380
Well, a stablecoin is supposed to represent a

1590
00:55:33,380 --> 00:55:33,680
dollar.

1591
00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:35,280
Yeah, but a fraction.

1592
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,020
Well, that would be like representing a penny.

1593
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:40,040
Okay, boomer.

1594
00:55:40,220 --> 00:55:42,480
Is it going to get smaller than that?

1595
00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:43,300
Is that what you're saying?

1596
00:55:43,340 --> 00:55:43,820
Half a penny?

1597
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:44,320
Yes.

1598
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:45,760
How about a hundredth of a penny?

1599
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:46,460
Of course.

1600
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,320
That's the whole beauty of digital money.

1601
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,220
And that way, at least we could have

1602
00:55:52,220 --> 00:55:56,680
a functioning email system, which would be reasonably

1603
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,420
secured.

1604
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,800
At least the only one who could be

1605
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:00,880
spying on you is the government.

1606
00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:02,440
Google is worse.

1607
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,060
You won't get advertisements through it.

1608
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,620
I'm just thinking that would be a great

1609
00:56:07,620 --> 00:56:10,600
way to replace the U.S. postal system.

1610
00:56:11,060 --> 00:56:12,120
Get it off our books.

1611
00:56:12,540 --> 00:56:13,720
Get all the other stuff.

1612
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,160
Don't privatize it.

1613
00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:17,840
Just, here, we're not doing it anymore.

1614
00:56:18,260 --> 00:56:19,580
You guys, by the way, you'll see them

1615
00:56:19,580 --> 00:56:20,420
all go, Oh, what?

1616
00:56:21,980 --> 00:56:23,740
We don't get government contract?

1617
00:56:23,740 --> 00:56:24,980
No, you got to do it yourself.

1618
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,220
I would be all for that.

1619
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,960
I think that would revolutionize interpersonal communications.

1620
00:56:31,660 --> 00:56:33,020
Yeah, it would, but it's not going to

1621
00:56:33,020 --> 00:56:33,240
happen.

1622
00:56:33,340 --> 00:56:34,440
The FBI would be against it.

1623
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,620
Everybody would be against it.

1624
00:56:37,820 --> 00:56:38,900
Who runs this country?

1625
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,300
The people or the FBI?

1626
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:47,230
It ain't the people.

1627
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:49,570
All right.

1628
00:56:49,610 --> 00:56:51,410
Well, I think it's a platform I could

1629
00:56:51,410 --> 00:56:51,870
run on.

1630
00:56:52,450 --> 00:56:52,990
You could.

1631
00:56:53,150 --> 00:56:54,770
I mean, I think it'd pay up to

1632
00:56:54,770 --> 00:56:55,170
a penny.

1633
00:56:56,930 --> 00:56:58,210
Well, that'd be fine.

1634
00:56:58,990 --> 00:57:00,650
I'd pay a penny a message if I

1635
00:57:00,650 --> 00:57:01,990
knew it was going to get through instead

1636
00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:04,510
of getting blocked and spammed and thrown into

1637
00:57:04,510 --> 00:57:06,190
junk mail like the newsletter is.

1638
00:57:06,210 --> 00:57:06,470
Hold on.

1639
00:57:06,550 --> 00:57:07,530
Let me ask you the question.

1640
00:57:07,730 --> 00:57:09,930
So, if it's a penny, which is what

1641
00:57:09,930 --> 00:57:12,170
you are advocating for, instead of my fraction

1642
00:57:12,170 --> 00:57:14,730
of a penny, and you're sending out 30

1643
00:57:14,730 --> 00:57:18,050
,000 newsletters, how much will that cost you

1644
00:57:18,050 --> 00:57:18,690
per newsletter?

1645
00:57:19,710 --> 00:57:20,950
A penny a newsletter.

1646
00:57:21,550 --> 00:57:22,990
No, per person a penny.

1647
00:57:23,830 --> 00:57:24,050
Yeah.

1648
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:24,710
Yeah.

1649
00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:26,390
So, how many dollars is that?

1650
00:57:26,410 --> 00:57:26,710
$300?

1651
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:26,970
$300.

1652
00:57:32,900 --> 00:57:33,700
It'd be $100.

1653
00:57:34,020 --> 00:57:34,960
No, it'd be $30.

1654
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,000
No.

1655
00:57:36,340 --> 00:57:36,460
No.

1656
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:37,560
It would be $300.

1657
00:57:37,740 --> 00:57:38,380
It'd be $300.

1658
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:39,700
Yeah.

1659
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,100
Do you still like your penny, or do

1660
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:42,800
you like my fraction of a penny idea

1661
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:43,100
better?

1662
00:57:44,540 --> 00:57:49,100
Well, for $300, if I could, well, I

1663
00:57:49,100 --> 00:57:51,420
would actually say for $300, it'd be worth

1664
00:57:51,420 --> 00:57:55,220
it to get the rate doubled.

1665
00:57:55,540 --> 00:57:55,940
Uh-huh.

1666
00:57:56,820 --> 00:57:59,060
So, we'd bring in twice as much in

1667
00:57:59,060 --> 00:57:59,580
donations.

1668
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,220
It would be worth the $300 easy.

1669
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:02,540
There you go.

1670
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:04,900
I've proven my point.

1671
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:06,380
No, you haven't.

1672
00:58:06,580 --> 00:58:07,720
I've proven something.

1673
00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:11,060
You wouldn't have to pay MailChimp.

1674
00:58:11,140 --> 00:58:12,960
You could just have your own email server.

1675
00:58:14,420 --> 00:58:16,540
MailChimp costs us at least, what, $100 a

1676
00:58:16,540 --> 00:58:17,240
month at least?

1677
00:58:17,980 --> 00:58:18,940
Try $400.

1678
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,080
Holy mackerel.

1679
00:58:20,780 --> 00:58:22,800
$400 a month for MailChimp?

1680
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,000
Yeah.

1681
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:24,860
And you know why?

1682
00:58:24,940 --> 00:58:26,820
It's because they have to pay the whitelisting

1683
00:58:26,820 --> 00:58:28,980
services so you can even get through to

1684
00:58:28,980 --> 00:58:32,820
Gmail and Yahoo and AOL or whatever else

1685
00:58:32,820 --> 00:58:33,600
is out there.

1686
00:58:34,060 --> 00:58:34,580
AOL.

1687
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:37,020
Prodigy.

1688
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,560
So, you can get their prodigy mail.

1689
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:40,320
CompuServe.

1690
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:41,800
Yeah.

1691
00:58:41,940 --> 00:58:44,060
Anyway, that was just an idea.

1692
00:58:45,180 --> 00:58:47,980
Just a free idea from Adam for the

1693
00:58:47,980 --> 00:58:51,040
government to fix everything, to stop this nonsense

1694
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:55,440
and get Scott Simon back to drinking margaritas

1695
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,020
on the weekend.

1696
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,200
Clip number three.

1697
00:58:58,540 --> 00:59:00,820
The Postal Service Board of Governors chairwoman told

1698
00:59:00,820 --> 00:59:02,960
NPR that Steiner is in the process of

1699
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,920
divesting from, quote, prohibited stocks.

1700
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,760
And in his first message to postal workers,

1701
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,580
Steiner tried to— Wait, stop, stop, stop.

1702
00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:12,640
Why did he have to say, quote?

1703
00:59:14,060 --> 00:59:15,000
I don't know.

1704
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:16,480
It's what you do.

1705
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,560
He's going to divest from, quote, prohibited stocks.

1706
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,700
Why did he just say they have to

1707
00:59:21,700 --> 00:59:23,600
divest from prohibited stocks?

1708
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,760
There's no reason for him to say, quote.

1709
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,660
Is it like some sort of a—it's like

1710
00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:30,220
air quotes and he's like, oh, prohibited is

1711
00:59:30,220 --> 00:59:30,660
bullcrap.

1712
00:59:30,660 --> 00:59:31,380
It's a scam.

1713
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:33,020
That's what it implies.

1714
00:59:33,180 --> 00:59:35,480
Maybe the guy said it that way.

1715
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,060
That's the way I took it.

1716
00:59:38,180 --> 00:59:38,760
Let's listen again.

1717
00:59:38,780 --> 00:59:40,460
I don't think so.

1718
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:41,140
Let's listen again.

1719
00:59:41,140 --> 00:59:43,620
The Postal Service Board of Governors chairwoman told

1720
00:59:43,620 --> 00:59:45,760
NPR that Steiner is in the process of

1721
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,760
divesting from, quote, prohibited stocks.

1722
00:59:48,580 --> 00:59:50,560
And in his first message to postal workers,

1723
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,320
Steiner tried to dispel rumors about the changes

1724
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:53,960
he would bring.

1725
00:59:54,140 --> 00:59:56,420
First, I do not believe the Postal Service

1726
00:59:56,420 --> 00:59:58,300
should be privatized or that it should become

1727
00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:00,400
an appropriated part of the federal government.

1728
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:02,960
Postal unions say they welcome the statement, but

1729
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,360
we'll be watching Steiner's actions.

1730
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,860
Rural customers will likely do the same.

1731
01:00:07,340 --> 01:00:09,560
For NPR News, I'm Nick Loomis in Lincoln,

1732
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:10,000
Nebraska.

1733
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:10,940
I'm thinking— Hold on.

1734
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,540
So the whole story was bogus.

1735
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:13,820
Yes, of course it was.

1736
01:00:14,220 --> 01:00:15,940
It starts with a bunch of stuff and

1737
01:00:15,940 --> 01:00:17,160
then it ends with the guy saying, no,

1738
01:00:17,220 --> 01:00:18,000
that's not going to happen.

1739
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,140
Why are you even doing the story is

1740
01:00:20,140 --> 01:00:21,380
what he should have finished with.

1741
01:00:21,460 --> 01:00:24,000
Because they got a $400,000-a-year

1742
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,580
guy sitting on his butt drinking margaritas on

1743
01:00:26,580 --> 01:00:26,960
the weekend.

1744
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,940
They got to get Scott Simon out to

1745
01:00:28,940 --> 01:00:29,600
do some work.

1746
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,000
Unbelievable.

1747
01:00:32,660 --> 01:00:35,160
I think I should lobby to be the

1748
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:36,300
next postmaster general.

1749
01:00:36,540 --> 01:00:37,740
It would be so easy.

1750
01:00:38,860 --> 01:00:39,760
Shut it down.

1751
01:00:41,260 --> 01:00:42,700
You can take all of our employees.

1752
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:43,740
They're good employees.

1753
01:00:44,380 --> 01:00:45,040
They're good guys.

1754
01:00:45,140 --> 01:00:46,280
Good guys and good gals.

1755
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,880
Actually, I'd say 99% of them are.

1756
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:50,600
I agree.

1757
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:51,160
Oh, definitely.

1758
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,140
I love our mail carrier.

1759
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:54,360
They're fantastic people.

1760
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,980
I like the people at the post office.

1761
01:00:56,140 --> 01:00:56,900
They're very friendly.

1762
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:58,780
Not all, but most of them.

1763
01:00:58,780 --> 01:00:59,160
They are here.

1764
01:00:59,160 --> 01:00:59,500
Not all.

1765
01:00:59,580 --> 01:01:00,380
There's always one.

1766
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,200
We used to have a post office.

1767
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:03,120
Wait for it.

1768
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:03,960
Wait for it.

1769
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,080
I would be the podmaster general.

1770
01:01:08,990 --> 01:01:09,450
Okay.

1771
01:01:15,330 --> 01:01:17,090
I'm going to skip that story.

1772
01:01:18,770 --> 01:01:20,970
Let's do what else we got here.

1773
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:22,430
Oh, here's an interesting thing.

1774
01:01:22,530 --> 01:01:24,190
Since I got most of these NPR clips,

1775
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:26,450
you have to listen to this NPR beeped.

1776
01:01:26,590 --> 01:01:28,810
This is a very short clip, and I'm

1777
01:01:28,810 --> 01:01:30,950
scratching my head over this one.

1778
01:01:31,570 --> 01:01:31,690
Okay.

1779
01:01:32,290 --> 01:01:32,850
A quick warning.

1780
01:01:33,110 --> 01:01:34,910
There are curse words that are un-beeped

1781
01:01:34,910 --> 01:01:36,210
in today's episode of the show.

1782
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:38,630
If you prefer a beeped version, you can

1783
01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:39,450
find that at our website.

1784
01:01:40,830 --> 01:01:41,630
Thisamericanlife.org.

1785
01:01:44,210 --> 01:01:44,610
What?

1786
01:01:45,450 --> 01:01:45,850
Beeps.

1787
01:01:45,950 --> 01:01:47,330
Well, this must be the podcast.

1788
01:01:47,470 --> 01:01:48,990
This wasn't over the air, I presume.

1789
01:01:49,150 --> 01:01:49,550
They do not.

1790
01:01:49,550 --> 01:01:51,350
It was taken off the internet, but it

1791
01:01:51,350 --> 01:01:53,530
was on a website that streams the over

1792
01:01:53,530 --> 01:01:54,430
-the-air feed.

1793
01:01:57,510 --> 01:01:57,910
Well.

1794
01:01:58,110 --> 01:02:01,090
But I guess they never played that show

1795
01:02:01,090 --> 01:02:02,550
anyway, so I couldn't tell if they were

1796
01:02:02,550 --> 01:02:03,290
cussing or not.

1797
01:02:03,630 --> 01:02:05,810
And what did they bleep, and why?

1798
01:02:06,010 --> 01:02:07,190
Well, why didn't you investigate?

1799
01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:08,630
Why didn't you do a deep dive?

1800
01:02:08,630 --> 01:02:08,870
A deep dive.

1801
01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:11,010
I thought that was good enough right there.

1802
01:02:11,190 --> 01:02:11,290
Deep dive.

1803
01:02:11,290 --> 01:02:12,670
I did all the work I felt like

1804
01:02:12,670 --> 01:02:12,970
doing.

1805
01:02:13,330 --> 01:02:14,930
Are you trying to just get as many

1806
01:02:14,930 --> 01:02:17,410
NPR clips as possible before they fold?

1807
01:02:19,890 --> 01:02:21,430
It's all going to go away.

1808
01:02:21,870 --> 01:02:22,790
It's all going to go away.

1809
01:02:22,910 --> 01:02:24,390
It's not going to go away because here,

1810
01:02:24,590 --> 01:02:26,950
you stuck me on this.

1811
01:02:27,430 --> 01:02:29,970
NPR new donation ad, it's not going to

1812
01:02:29,970 --> 01:02:31,510
go away with ads like this.

1813
01:02:31,770 --> 01:02:34,530
Federal funding for public media has been eliminated.

1814
01:02:35,010 --> 01:02:37,490
That means decades of bipartisan support for public

1815
01:02:37,490 --> 01:02:39,390
radio and television is ending.

1816
01:02:39,390 --> 01:02:42,030
To be clear, NPR isn't going anywhere, but

1817
01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:43,210
we do need your support.

1818
01:02:43,650 --> 01:02:46,330
Please give today to help keep rigorous, independent,

1819
01:02:46,650 --> 01:02:50,350
and irreplaceable news coverage available to everybody, free

1820
01:02:50,350 --> 01:02:51,030
of charge.

1821
01:02:51,210 --> 01:02:53,350
You can make your gift at donate.npr

1822
01:02:53,350 --> 01:02:55,090
.org, and thank you.

1823
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:55,910
Thank you.

1824
01:02:56,070 --> 01:02:56,410
Yes.

1825
01:02:57,410 --> 01:02:58,750
That's a horrible ask.

1826
01:02:58,750 --> 01:03:01,170
They brand these ads, I'd say half of

1827
01:03:01,170 --> 01:03:02,890
the programming now are these ads.

1828
01:03:03,010 --> 01:03:03,950
It's a horrible ask.

1829
01:03:04,030 --> 01:03:04,930
It's not a way to ask.

1830
01:03:04,990 --> 01:03:05,630
It's no good.

1831
01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:07,070
It's no good.

1832
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:10,700
All right.

1833
01:03:12,780 --> 01:03:13,820
Ball's in your court.

1834
01:03:14,260 --> 01:03:14,540
Okay.

1835
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,360
Well, in that case, I'll go to my

1836
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,060
favorite topic.

1837
01:03:22,300 --> 01:03:24,740
We know that there's already a pivot to

1838
01:03:24,740 --> 01:03:27,480
quantum computing because- Oh, God, you're not

1839
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:28,200
going to go there.

1840
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:29,360
Oh, I'm sorry.

1841
01:03:29,540 --> 01:03:30,920
Let's do more NPR.

1842
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,060
No, you can go to quantum, but you're

1843
01:03:34,060 --> 01:03:35,440
going to hear a lot of moaning and

1844
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:35,820
groaning.

1845
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:36,400
Okay.

1846
01:03:36,620 --> 01:03:38,700
Well, this is only about the facts.

1847
01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:41,680
Another heat wave this week as ComEd customers

1848
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,320
in the Chicago area bear not only rising

1849
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,380
temperatures, but sky-high electric bills, some reporting

1850
01:03:48,380 --> 01:03:50,840
paying double what they were billed last month.

1851
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,580
On June 1st, a supply rate increase took

1852
01:03:53,580 --> 01:03:55,740
effect due to a spike in the wholesale

1853
01:03:55,740 --> 01:03:59,020
cost of electricity and supply charge, as well

1854
01:03:59,020 --> 01:04:01,260
as increased energy use in the region.

1855
01:04:01,740 --> 01:04:03,500
One reason for that increase?

1856
01:04:03,500 --> 01:04:07,020
We're also seeing nationally, but also in Illinois,

1857
01:04:07,300 --> 01:04:09,300
the effect of increasing demand on the grid

1858
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:11,320
from technologies that have nothing to do with

1859
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:12,360
cooling people off.

1860
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,740
It has to do with providing services related

1861
01:04:15,740 --> 01:04:18,420
to artificial intelligence or AI, so data centers

1862
01:04:18,420 --> 01:04:21,440
that we see building out across the nation.

1863
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,580
We are not going to be operating quantum

1864
01:04:23,580 --> 01:04:25,220
computers, at least not yet.

1865
01:04:26,060 --> 01:04:29,200
We're going to be delivering power to them.

1866
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,540
Just yesterday, the CEO of ComEd spoke at

1867
01:04:32,540 --> 01:04:35,880
the Global Quantum Forum in Illinois, referencing the

1868
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,800
future demand of electricity at the Illinois Quantum

1869
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,480
Microelectronics Park.

1870
01:04:40,660 --> 01:04:44,180
Quantum computers need to be kept at temperatures

1871
01:04:44,180 --> 01:04:48,880
near absolute zero to ensure the stability of

1872
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:49,360
qubits.

1873
01:04:49,820 --> 01:04:50,280
Qubits!

1874
01:04:50,540 --> 01:04:53,360
We have to ensure the stability of the

1875
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:53,840
qubits!

1876
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,860
Turn off your air conditioners!

1877
01:04:55,860 --> 01:04:59,560
Temperatures near absolute zero to ensure the stability

1878
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:00,800
of qubits.

1879
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:04,160
That requires a lot of electricity.

1880
01:05:04,580 --> 01:05:05,140
Oh, please.

1881
01:05:05,380 --> 01:05:09,280
In fact, ComEd's nation-leading reliability was a

1882
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,420
key factor in PsiQuantum's decision to be the

1883
01:05:13,420 --> 01:05:17,600
anchor tenant of the Illinois Quantum and Microelectronics

1884
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:18,040
Park.

1885
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,440
This is the dumb—this shows you how dumb

1886
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,080
they are in some parts of this country.

1887
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:24,940
This is Chicago.

1888
01:05:25,420 --> 01:05:26,980
This is Darin's backyard.

1889
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:28,080
Yeah.

1890
01:05:28,860 --> 01:05:31,060
But this is happening everywhere.

1891
01:05:31,420 --> 01:05:32,360
A couple of points.

1892
01:05:32,820 --> 01:05:34,820
One, you think that maybe the grid is

1893
01:05:34,820 --> 01:05:38,220
being taxed by electrical vehicles that are constantly

1894
01:05:38,220 --> 01:05:40,940
hooked to it, sucking energy off to fill

1895
01:05:40,940 --> 01:05:41,480
their tanks?

1896
01:05:41,860 --> 01:05:42,980
No, it's got nothing to do with it.

1897
01:05:43,340 --> 01:05:46,240
Also, quantum computing, if it could ever be

1898
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:51,100
shown to work, as opposed to faked, it

1899
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:57,820
uses like one quintillion as much—it could do

1900
01:05:57,820 --> 01:06:00,820
one quintillion more than a regular computer.

1901
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,780
So thus, overall, it should require one quintillion

1902
01:06:04,780 --> 01:06:06,940
less in terms of power.

1903
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,020
It seems to me it should use like

1904
01:06:10,020 --> 01:06:13,040
a nine-volt battery should keep it going

1905
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,780
for all the work it can do.

1906
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,540
You are talking against the narrative of Silicon

1907
01:06:17,540 --> 01:06:18,400
Valley, my friend.

1908
01:06:18,940 --> 01:06:21,760
This is not how—that's how technology used to

1909
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:22,040
work.

1910
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,980
Today, if you want it to do more,

1911
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,040
you've got to pay more.

1912
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,900
It's got to be more expensive, got to

1913
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:27,840
suck more power.

1914
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,860
So the basic old school of Silicon Valley

1915
01:06:31,860 --> 01:06:36,580
was things got cheaper and faster and cheaper

1916
01:06:36,580 --> 01:06:37,840
and faster and smaller.

1917
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,840
Smaller, cheaper, faster.

1918
01:06:39,980 --> 01:06:41,500
Every generation was smaller.

1919
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:42,660
It was cheaper.

1920
01:06:42,780 --> 01:06:43,720
It was faster.

1921
01:06:44,180 --> 01:06:45,000
But now?

1922
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,280
Well, I think Apple showed us that that's

1923
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:48,000
not the way.

1924
01:06:48,380 --> 01:06:53,420
Every new iPhone is more expensive, ruins your

1925
01:06:53,420 --> 01:06:56,880
battery quicker, and you've got to upgrade sooner.

1926
01:06:57,980 --> 01:07:00,160
They flipped the script on this.

1927
01:07:00,940 --> 01:07:01,380
I know.

1928
01:07:01,540 --> 01:07:03,040
I mean, I'm with you, obviously.

1929
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,280
I mean, I still have a TRS-100

1930
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,560
that runs on two AA's.

1931
01:07:08,780 --> 01:07:09,580
TRS-100.

1932
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:10,600
The TRS-100.

1933
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,440
Yeah, those things that didn't use much juice.

1934
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,100
Well, it only had an eight-line LCD

1935
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:17,280
display, but man, it could do basic.

1936
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,640
I've actually been doing some deep dives.

1937
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,040
Oh, God.

1938
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,280
There is a resurgence—are you ready for this?

1939
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,080
Because— I'm already sensing what you're going to

1940
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:31,340
say.

1941
01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:32,880
Okay, tell me.

1942
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,560
A resurgence in old junk.

1943
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:36,020
No.

1944
01:07:36,860 --> 01:07:40,120
People are finding old TRS-8100s and they're

1945
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:41,440
repurposing them.

1946
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:42,200
If only.

1947
01:07:42,420 --> 01:07:43,700
No, I want to run Linux.

1948
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,900
I want to run Ubuntu on my TRS

1949
01:07:45,900 --> 01:07:46,160
-100.

1950
01:07:46,420 --> 01:07:47,960
Actually, that's what I would think.

1951
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,940
People want to run Ubuntu on a TRS

1952
01:07:51,940 --> 01:07:52,700
-100.

1953
01:07:53,940 --> 01:07:54,160
No.

1954
01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:55,980
Okay.

1955
01:07:56,940 --> 01:08:02,340
There's, you know, AI—let's just call it AI—large

1956
01:08:02,340 --> 01:08:03,180
language models.

1957
01:08:03,180 --> 01:08:07,180
It turns out that it's pretty much the

1958
01:08:07,180 --> 01:08:14,400
same basic principles going back to 1958 when

1959
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,740
a guy named John McCarthy invented—take it away,

1960
01:08:17,819 --> 01:08:18,040
John.

1961
01:08:20,140 --> 01:08:23,840
I don't know what—well, John McCarthy—there's two schools—before

1962
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,260
you go on to this, I'm going to

1963
01:08:26,260 --> 01:08:29,300
say this one thing, and I know what

1964
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:29,720
you're doing.

1965
01:08:30,140 --> 01:08:33,340
But John McCarthy was on the wrong side

1966
01:08:33,340 --> 01:08:33,960
of history.

1967
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,140
There were two schools of thought when it

1968
01:08:36,140 --> 01:08:36,859
came to AI.

1969
01:08:37,819 --> 01:08:41,220
And every time the John McCarthy side had

1970
01:08:41,220 --> 01:08:46,040
its moment, which was including the 80s, they

1971
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,680
all failed because it was mostly machine learning

1972
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,580
and it didn't really have anything to do

1973
01:08:50,580 --> 01:08:51,040
with anything.

1974
01:08:51,380 --> 01:08:53,660
And the counter to that was always neural

1975
01:08:53,660 --> 01:08:55,560
networks, which could never work.

1976
01:08:56,180 --> 01:08:59,080
It's neural networks that are working today that

1977
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,939
make AI what it is, that can do

1978
01:09:00,939 --> 01:09:02,580
the art and all the rest of it.

1979
01:09:03,340 --> 01:09:06,939
Interestingly enough, there is a resurgent in LISP

1980
01:09:06,939 --> 01:09:10,060
programming because they can't seem to get the

1981
01:09:10,060 --> 01:09:12,640
AI going any further than it is today.

1982
01:09:13,260 --> 01:09:14,080
Yeah, we'll see.

1983
01:09:14,540 --> 01:09:15,880
I'm just telling you.

1984
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,840
There was a whole conference not— LISP programming.

1985
01:09:19,580 --> 01:09:20,180
Yes, LISP.

1986
01:09:20,220 --> 01:09:20,359
Yeah.

1987
01:09:20,779 --> 01:09:21,100
Yes.

1988
01:09:21,979 --> 01:09:23,479
Everyone's all-time favorite.

1989
01:09:23,859 --> 01:09:25,899
I'm just telling you that they just had

1990
01:09:25,899 --> 01:09:27,180
a worldwide conference.

1991
01:09:27,660 --> 01:09:30,760
The AI guys are going back to LISP

1992
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,800
because they can't seem to get the neural

1993
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:39,120
networks doing any intelligence other than the neural

1994
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,100
networks, which is giving you, you know, your

1995
01:09:42,100 --> 01:09:46,200
Scaramanga, his eight-second videos, and Darren O

1996
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:47,660
'Neill, his orange images.

1997
01:09:48,420 --> 01:09:49,859
And I would like to say—by the way,

1998
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,300
I have a comment on the orange images.

1999
01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:56,220
I would suggest that somebody show—use LISP and

2000
01:09:56,220 --> 01:09:58,320
create some of the art that Darren creates

2001
01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,280
with just a few prompts.

2002
01:09:59,460 --> 01:09:59,580
What?

2003
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,140
Did you not hear what I just said?

2004
01:10:02,500 --> 01:10:06,880
That the neural networks, they are definitely responsible—I'll

2005
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,680
say it again—for Scaramanga's eight-second videos.

2006
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:10,460
I'm saying yes.

2007
01:10:10,860 --> 01:10:12,900
And if—I'm not arguing that.

2008
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,740
What I'm saying is that if the LISP

2009
01:10:14,740 --> 01:10:17,060
is so good that we can go back

2010
01:10:17,060 --> 01:10:18,440
to it, I want to see it produce

2011
01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:19,560
some art as good as Scaramanga's.

2012
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:20,180
No.

2013
01:10:20,180 --> 01:10:23,220
They want to use LISP for the reasoning

2014
01:10:23,220 --> 01:10:26,320
and for the recursive— Oh, okay.

2015
01:10:26,340 --> 01:10:26,440
Yes.

2016
01:10:26,660 --> 01:10:27,500
I'm telling you.

2017
01:10:28,020 --> 01:10:29,000
Oh, that's insanity.

2018
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,380
I'm reporting it to you.

2019
01:10:30,460 --> 01:10:32,560
I'm not, like, advocating for it.

2020
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:35,800
You might as well be.

2021
01:10:36,260 --> 01:10:39,620
Oh, you're insufferable sometimes.

2022
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:40,200
I am.

2023
01:10:40,300 --> 01:10:41,840
I'm totally insufferable.

2024
01:10:41,980 --> 01:10:42,540
It's pathetic.

2025
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,340
Well, you know what the number one language

2026
01:10:44,340 --> 01:10:49,220
is being used currently today for artificial intelligence,

2027
01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:52,220
large language models, not for your image crap?

2028
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:53,300
Do you know what it is, the number

2029
01:10:53,300 --> 01:10:53,960
one language?

2030
01:10:54,540 --> 01:10:55,560
You got me.

2031
01:10:55,780 --> 01:10:56,120
Python.

2032
01:10:57,100 --> 01:10:58,500
Oh, that doesn't surprise me.

2033
01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:02,380
Which is lame by comparison to LISP.

2034
01:11:02,660 --> 01:11:03,140
Exactly.

2035
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,500
This is exactly why they're going back to

2036
01:11:05,500 --> 01:11:05,720
it.

2037
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,540
It's fascinating to see.

2038
01:11:08,780 --> 01:11:10,560
Why don't they go back to small talk?

2039
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:11,820
Apple talk.

2040
01:11:14,220 --> 01:11:15,180
Novell Networks.

2041
01:11:15,180 --> 01:11:17,180
Now, that was a technology, I tell you.

2042
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,860
Now we sound like a couple of farts.

2043
01:11:20,900 --> 01:11:22,880
I've decided I'm Ben X.

2044
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:24,560
That is my new generation.

2045
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:25,980
I am not Gen X.

2046
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:26,940
I am Ben X.

2047
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:27,340
Anyway.

2048
01:11:27,460 --> 01:11:28,000
What's Ben?

2049
01:11:28,180 --> 01:11:28,880
Ben what?

2050
01:11:29,060 --> 01:11:30,240
The B for boomer.

2051
01:11:30,380 --> 01:11:30,920
Ben X.

2052
01:11:32,300 --> 01:11:33,540
Oh, that's interesting.

2053
01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:34,320
Thank you.

2054
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,480
I think boom X would be better.

2055
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:36,800
No.

2056
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:43,240
So, Sam Altman, our very tortured, tortured multi

2057
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:43,880
-millionaire.

2058
01:11:44,020 --> 01:11:44,220
Sex fiend.

2059
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:45,860
I don't know if he's a...

2060
01:11:47,140 --> 01:11:49,040
Isn't he part of that sex cult?

2061
01:11:51,260 --> 01:11:52,220
No, you're...

2062
01:11:52,220 --> 01:11:54,080
Am I conflating a bunch of different people?

2063
01:11:54,180 --> 01:11:56,080
You're thinking of the FTX guy.

2064
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,860
You're thinking of Sam Bankman Freed.

2065
01:11:58,980 --> 01:12:00,200
No, I'm not thinking of...

2066
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,420
No, I'm thinking about the group that's still

2067
01:12:02,420 --> 01:12:05,240
running around here that is sex-oriented.

2068
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,420
Oh, the...

2069
01:12:07,420 --> 01:12:08,900
What were they called again?

2070
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:10,700
Yeah, them.

2071
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:11,580
Those guys.

2072
01:12:11,740 --> 01:12:13,500
Someone in the troll room should know what

2073
01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:13,740
it is.

2074
01:12:13,740 --> 01:12:16,000
Okay, continue talking.

2075
01:12:16,180 --> 01:12:17,080
I'll worry about it later.

2076
01:12:17,180 --> 01:12:22,940
Sam Altman, he's doing some pre-promotion for

2077
01:12:22,940 --> 01:12:23,980
Model 5.

2078
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:25,460
Model 5, everybody.

2079
01:12:25,860 --> 01:12:26,900
I mean, listen.

2080
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,700
We just need another trillion dollars.

2081
01:12:30,980 --> 01:12:36,040
Once we have more compute, AI is really...

2082
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:36,960
Effective altruism.

2083
01:12:37,060 --> 01:12:38,960
Thank you very much, Maximilian.

2084
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:39,960
Yeah, effective altruism.

2085
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:40,740
Effective altruism.

2086
01:12:40,740 --> 01:12:43,620
No, he's the opposite of that because now

2087
01:12:43,620 --> 01:12:46,820
he went all in on commercialism.

2088
01:12:46,900 --> 01:12:48,440
He wants to get filthy rich now.

2089
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:49,900
Remember, they're trying to spin all that.

2090
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:50,920
Who doesn't?

2091
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:51,980
Exactly.

2092
01:12:52,860 --> 01:12:54,680
Sam Altman is doing just fine.

2093
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,620
So Sam needs to explain to everybody that

2094
01:12:58,620 --> 01:13:00,260
if we just get a little more money,

2095
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,960
it will really be smart.

2096
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:03,760
It's going to...

2097
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,300
It's blowing me away, I'm telling you.

2098
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,080
So where would you go...

2099
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,580
Hey, I have to say that when no

2100
01:13:10,580 --> 01:13:11,940
one has said this, I'm going to say

2101
01:13:11,940 --> 01:13:12,120
it.

2102
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:12,480
Okay.

2103
01:13:12,660 --> 01:13:15,160
It turns out that Sam Altman is one

2104
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,100
of the greatest salespeople in the history of

2105
01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:18,740
sales.

2106
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,620
And no one recognizes the simple fact.

2107
01:13:22,940 --> 01:13:25,800
He is really good at sales.

2108
01:13:26,300 --> 01:13:28,000
I think his pitch is getting old.

2109
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:29,940
It still works.

2110
01:13:30,100 --> 01:13:30,960
He's still getting money.

2111
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:32,080
He does it, yes.

2112
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,160
But he does it in the...

2113
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:34,420
I mean, to you, you're like, you know,

2114
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,500
you can see this, but most people can't.

2115
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,500
I see right through it.

2116
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,560
I mean, the guy is clearly lying.

2117
01:13:41,820 --> 01:13:43,500
You know, he's just sitting there like, he's

2118
01:13:43,500 --> 01:13:44,560
lying, he's lying.

2119
01:13:44,900 --> 01:13:45,620
A salesman lying?

2120
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:46,200
What?

2121
01:13:47,260 --> 01:13:49,660
So he goes on, of all podcasts, if

2122
01:13:49,660 --> 01:13:51,580
you really want to reach the masses, Theo

2123
01:13:51,580 --> 01:13:52,100
Vaughn.

2124
01:13:52,340 --> 01:13:54,580
This is a fantastic podcast.

2125
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:57,400
And I didn't clip this, but at a

2126
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,020
certain point, Theo Vaughn says, don't you think

2127
01:14:00,020 --> 01:14:01,980
it's kind of like old-fashioned for women

2128
01:14:01,980 --> 01:14:02,760
to have babies?

2129
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:03,920
I mean, shouldn't we just have them in

2130
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:04,440
vats?

2131
01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:07,040
You know, and Sam Alba's like, yeah, you

2132
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,900
know, obviously we'd have much better humans.

2133
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:09,440
Obviously.

2134
01:14:10,700 --> 01:14:11,220
No.

2135
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:12,240
Yes.

2136
01:14:12,820 --> 01:14:14,220
You didn't clip that?

2137
01:14:14,420 --> 01:14:16,660
No, it was too creepy.

2138
01:14:17,580 --> 01:14:20,440
And anyway, so here's his pre-sale.

2139
01:14:20,500 --> 01:14:21,800
These are two very short clips.

2140
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,440
Here's his pre-sale of Model 5.

2141
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,040
But what it comes with, what are you,

2142
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:28,680
what do you fear, Sam?

2143
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,420
And Sam is, you know what?

2144
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,120
Yeah.

2145
01:14:34,860 --> 01:14:36,120
What's like one of your fears?

2146
01:14:36,180 --> 01:14:39,280
Like what's a fear you have of AI?

2147
01:14:39,460 --> 01:14:41,300
Like if you have like a fearful space

2148
01:14:41,300 --> 01:14:42,960
that it could go, like I know you

2149
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:43,920
mentioned a little bit.

2150
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,580
This morning I was testing our new model

2151
01:14:46,580 --> 01:14:47,820
and I got a question.

2152
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,480
I got emailed a question that I didn't

2153
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:50,180
quite understand.

2154
01:14:51,340 --> 01:14:53,240
And I put it in the model, this

2155
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:54,920
GPT-5, and it answered it perfectly.

2156
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,280
And I really kind of sat back in

2157
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,640
my chair and I was just like, oh

2158
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:00,760
man, here it is moment.

2159
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:02,860
And I got over it quickly.

2160
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,180
I got busy on to the next thing.

2161
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,560
But it was like, I mean, it's what

2162
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,160
kind we're talking about.

2163
01:15:07,220 --> 01:15:09,260
I felt like useless relative to the AI

2164
01:15:09,260 --> 01:15:10,920
in this thing that I felt like I

2165
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:11,900
should have been able to do and I

2166
01:15:11,900 --> 01:15:12,200
couldn't.

2167
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:13,380
It was really hard, but the AI just

2168
01:15:13,380 --> 01:15:13,940
did it like that.

2169
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:14,360
Yeah.

2170
01:15:14,780 --> 01:15:15,820
It was a weird feeling.

2171
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:16,960
Yeah.

2172
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,540
Model 5, GPT-5.

2173
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,260
I mean, I'm smelling ketamine.

2174
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:28,880
That's probably true.

2175
01:15:29,060 --> 01:15:29,720
I like that.

2176
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:35,500
So, then we get his actual fear, which

2177
01:15:35,500 --> 01:15:37,140
he doesn't know how to solve.

2178
01:15:37,540 --> 01:15:41,320
Another thing I'm afraid of, and we had

2179
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,420
a, you know, a a a a a

2180
01:15:44,420 --> 01:15:47,080
a a a a a a a a

2181
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:52,140
a a a We had a, you know,

2182
01:15:52,220 --> 01:15:54,720
a real problem with this earlier, but it

2183
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:55,480
can get much worse.

2184
01:15:55,540 --> 01:15:57,020
It's just what this is going to mean

2185
01:15:57,020 --> 01:15:58,080
for users' mental health.

2186
01:15:59,700 --> 01:16:00,920
There's a lot of people that talk to

2187
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,180
Chachapiti all day long.

2188
01:16:02,260 --> 01:16:04,100
There are these sort of new AI companions

2189
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:05,660
that people talk to like they would a

2190
01:16:05,660 --> 01:16:06,680
girlfriend or a boyfriend.

2191
01:16:07,900 --> 01:16:09,720
And we're talking earlier about how it's probably

2192
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,960
not been good for kids to like, grow

2193
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,260
up on the dopamine hit of scrolling.

2194
01:16:14,900 --> 01:16:15,700
Yeah, for sure.

2195
01:16:15,700 --> 01:16:17,320
Or whatever do you think that that how

2196
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,100
do you keep like um AI from having

2197
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:22,340
that same effect like that negative effect that

2198
01:16:22,340 --> 01:16:22,580
social?

2199
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,560
Media really has had I'm scared about I

2200
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,180
don't I don't have an answer yet I

2201
01:16:27,180 --> 01:16:29,140
don't think we know quite the ways in

2202
01:16:29,140 --> 01:16:30,840
which it's going to have those negative in

2203
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,040
yes We do uh, but I feel for

2204
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,480
sure it's gonna have some and we'll have

2205
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:36,020
to I hope we can learn to mitigate

2206
01:16:36,020 --> 01:16:39,500
it quickly Can a eyes can they pull

2207
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:41,100
up pornography and stuff like that too or

2208
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:41,600
not sure?

2209
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,340
No, it's fine listen listen to him laughing

2210
01:16:49,860 --> 01:16:51,120
But you either way you have to know

2211
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,180
Theo Vaughn had a very serious porn addiction

2212
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,140
Can a eyes can they pull up pornography

2213
01:16:56,140 --> 01:16:57,540
and stuff like that too or not sure

2214
01:16:57,540 --> 01:16:58,820
sure my god?

2215
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,540
God, I didn't know that No, it's fine,

2216
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,740
yeah, but I just yeah, I don't even

2217
01:17:05,740 --> 01:17:07,320
need to know that I'm gonna have that

2218
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,780
stricken from my own record So there it

2219
01:17:09,780 --> 01:17:12,820
is there is his biggest fear which of

2220
01:17:12,820 --> 01:17:14,380
course he knows all about this is not

2221
01:17:14,380 --> 01:17:16,000
his fear This is this is his exit

2222
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,940
strategy Everybody needs to be talking to their

2223
01:17:18,940 --> 01:17:21,560
chat GPT Every say you know if you

2224
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:22,820
pick if you pull it I know you

2225
01:17:22,820 --> 01:17:24,520
don't have an app for it, but if

2226
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,100
you were to ever install an app on

2227
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:31,420
your phone in the drawer Chat GPT has

2228
01:17:31,420 --> 01:17:33,180
tabs at the top and the first one

2229
01:17:33,180 --> 01:17:35,000
is like general and the second one is

2230
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:35,420
therapy.

2231
01:17:35,860 --> 01:17:39,360
They are they are literally Giving this to

2232
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,620
people is there's a tab therapy that says

2233
01:17:42,620 --> 01:17:44,220
therapy and it comes with it.

2234
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,200
Yep Built right in well that tell us

2235
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,480
more well, that's where people go for therapy,

2236
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,320
and then the the the AI starts talking

2237
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:58,280
to you like a therapist and This is

2238
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,900
not regulated well No, you can't go you

2239
01:18:00,900 --> 01:18:02,900
just can't put a shingle out and say

2240
01:18:02,900 --> 01:18:05,640
I'm a therapist without having a license actually

2241
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,240
I think you can I don't think so.

2242
01:18:08,340 --> 01:18:10,380
I think you know the state of California

2243
01:18:11,180 --> 01:18:11,660
Hmm.

2244
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,100
I'm not sure about that I'm not sure

2245
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:17,000
about that you have to be a licensed

2246
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,900
either a Psychologist or a licensed psychiatry or

2247
01:18:20,900 --> 01:18:21,420
a psychiatrist.

2248
01:18:21,580 --> 01:18:22,620
I don't think you need a license for

2249
01:18:22,620 --> 01:18:25,980
that MD, but I mean I don't know

2250
01:18:25,980 --> 01:18:28,280
if you need to be it's like Lucy

2251
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,220
free advice five cents Well there you go

2252
01:18:31,220 --> 01:18:34,140
Lucy was in violation of the law Let's

2253
01:18:34,140 --> 01:18:38,080
see let me ask rock Yes, ask rock

2254
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,360
rock would know do you need a license

2255
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:45,080
to be a Therapist all right.

2256
01:18:45,300 --> 01:18:46,540
Let's find out doom.

2257
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,340
Yes, you typically do, but it depends on

2258
01:18:49,860 --> 01:18:54,960
location Okay All right, well we have a

2259
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,480
lot of therapists and Psychologists someone should chime

2260
01:18:58,480 --> 01:18:59,640
in on this bullcrap.

2261
01:18:59,860 --> 01:19:03,300
Yeah Because none of it's good obviously well

2262
01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:05,880
if it says therapy they're offering the therapeutic

2263
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,960
services that that are unlicensed Is it right

2264
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:09,300
there?

2265
01:19:09,380 --> 01:19:10,480
They should sue them.

2266
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,800
Yeah, the state of California should sue the

2267
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:18,120
company over this immediately well anyway, I'm The

2268
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,780
more I look at X which has you

2269
01:19:21,780 --> 01:19:24,920
know grok essentially built into it You know

2270
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,380
so in every I love the number one

2271
01:19:27,380 --> 01:19:30,340
question, I think posted on X's at grok

2272
01:19:30,340 --> 01:19:37,260
is this true That's my favorite, that's my

2273
01:19:37,260 --> 01:19:37,660
favorite.

2274
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,060
Yeah, well, that's what you do so the

2275
01:19:40,060 --> 01:19:43,840
snake is eating its tail continuously and It

2276
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,160
just seems like you cannot get away from

2277
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,740
ingesting crap, and then just more crap comes

2278
01:19:48,740 --> 01:19:51,100
out That's just the model collapse to me

2279
01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:53,300
is just that's that's why we have to

2280
01:19:53,300 --> 01:19:55,640
keep get Like you say if it's gonna

2281
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:56,480
be model collapse.

2282
01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:58,280
I know then I'm not worried.

2283
01:19:58,520 --> 01:19:59,740
Why are you worried about any of this?

2284
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:01,400
I'm not but I have to fill time

2285
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,560
on this podcast so I might as well

2286
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,240
That makes sense and when it comes to

2287
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,040
crap just just you know Just have a

2288
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,880
look at my timeline and look at all

2289
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,900
of the number accounts.

2290
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:20,080
You know like Dolores five nine seven two

2291
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:25,120
two three six These are bots There's no

2292
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,620
one who would accept their username to be

2293
01:20:27,620 --> 01:20:31,000
Dolores three nine two two six People will

2294
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:31,840
try anything.

2295
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:34,680
Let me do if it's Dolores 1960 okay

2296
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:35,720
boomer Dolores.

2297
01:20:35,900 --> 01:20:39,000
I got you This thing is filled with

2298
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,940
bots And the more I look at it

2299
01:20:41,940 --> 01:20:44,020
than the more I see what kind of

2300
01:20:44,020 --> 01:20:46,800
comments are being made by these bots the

2301
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:51,140
more I am convinced that All of these

2302
01:20:51,140 --> 01:20:55,220
social networks are now just completely flooded by

2303
01:20:55,220 --> 01:20:59,580
intelligence agencies Massaging a narrative, and it doesn't

2304
01:20:59,580 --> 01:21:03,380
mean that they're doing it in in For

2305
01:21:03,380 --> 01:21:05,340
the benefit of the administration they're doing it

2306
01:21:05,340 --> 01:21:07,660
for the benefit of whatever their whatever their

2307
01:21:07,660 --> 01:21:11,060
messaging is and Nothing quite sums it up,

2308
01:21:11,060 --> 01:21:14,660
and why wouldn't you do that exactly and

2309
01:21:14,660 --> 01:21:17,180
nothing quite sums it up as the Harvard

2310
01:21:17,180 --> 01:21:20,780
cyber speech from President Obama Where he was

2311
01:21:20,780 --> 01:21:21,420
clearly?

2312
01:21:22,140 --> 01:21:26,420
Projecting and In hindsight you're like wow this

2313
01:21:26,420 --> 01:21:30,320
is really taking place right now The Epstein

2314
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,080
conversation is a part of it the Mossad

2315
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:34,860
is real all of this is a part

2316
01:21:34,860 --> 01:21:37,500
of it in Myanmar It's been well documented

2317
01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:40,280
that hate speech shared on Facebook played a

2318
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,000
role in the murderous campaign targeting the Rohingya

2319
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,340
community Social media platforms have been similarly implicated

2320
01:21:46,340 --> 01:21:49,680
in fanning ethnic violence in Ethiopia far-right

2321
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,860
extremism in Europe Authoritarian regimes and strongmen around

2322
01:21:53,860 --> 01:21:56,820
the world from China to Hungary the Philippines

2323
01:21:56,820 --> 01:22:00,560
Brazil have learned to conscript social media platforms

2324
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,040
to turn their own populations against groups They

2325
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,180
don't like whether it's ethnic minorities the LGBTQ

2326
01:22:06,180 --> 01:22:10,780
community Journalists political opponents and of course autocrats

2327
01:22:10,780 --> 01:22:12,960
like Putin have used these platforms as a

2328
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,380
strategic weapon against democratic countries that they consider

2329
01:22:16,380 --> 01:22:19,800
a threat people like Putin and Steve Bannon

2330
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,680
for that matter Understand it's not necessary for

2331
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,400
people to believe this information in order to

2332
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,480
weaken democratic institutions You just have to flood

2333
01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:32,800
a country's public square with enough raw sewage

2334
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,180
You just have to raise enough questions spread

2335
01:22:35,180 --> 01:22:39,640
enough dirt plant enough Conspiracy theorizing that citizens

2336
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,820
no longer know what to believe Once they

2337
01:22:42,820 --> 01:22:46,020
lose trust in their leaders in mainstream media

2338
01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:49,800
in political institutions in each other in the

2339
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,720
Possibility of truth the game's won there you

2340
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,660
go Putin discovered leading up to the 2016

2341
01:22:55,660 --> 01:22:58,920
election our own social media platforms are well

2342
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,220
designed to support such a mission such a

2343
01:23:01,220 --> 01:23:04,920
project Russians could study and manipulate patterns in

2344
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,620
the Engagement ranking system on a Facebook or

2345
01:23:07,620 --> 01:23:10,940
used to and as a result Russians state

2346
01:23:10,940 --> 01:23:14,060
-sponsored trolls could almost guarantee that whatever disinformation

2347
01:23:14,060 --> 01:23:16,900
they put out there would reach millions of

2348
01:23:16,900 --> 01:23:19,980
Americans and that The more inflammatory the story

2349
01:23:19,980 --> 01:23:22,400
the quicker it spread yeah, and that's being

2350
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,820
done today right now by our own intelligence

2351
01:23:25,820 --> 01:23:29,160
community This is being done by Obama's boys

2352
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,440
Cloward Pivens Oh the digital version.

2353
01:23:33,740 --> 01:23:35,760
It's it's a it's a digital version of

2354
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:36,440
it completely.

2355
01:23:37,020 --> 01:23:39,520
Yeah, and it's working It kind of expressed

2356
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,060
how it works you clogged the sewers.

2357
01:23:41,220 --> 01:23:45,120
Yeah, and It's working and and you just

2358
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,120
and how do you make it even crazier

2359
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,000
add AI?

2360
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,020
Just add some scaremonger images.

2361
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,740
I don't think it makes it crazier.

2362
01:23:52,820 --> 01:23:56,180
I just this makes it easier no Easier

2363
01:23:56,180 --> 01:23:59,000
for them to do yes, yeah, but that

2364
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:03,420
it, but it I think it accelerates You

2365
01:24:03,420 --> 01:24:07,740
maybe laugh so hard the other day Yeah,

2366
01:24:07,780 --> 01:24:09,680
you should you should have someone watching you

2367
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:14,520
when you post on X Which one what

2368
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,000
post got you the one you said who

2369
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,160
is this woman next to Trump how come

2370
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:23,340
she's never mentioned It was do that I

2371
01:24:23,340 --> 01:24:25,520
said this picture shows up a lot Who

2372
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,100
is this woman next to Trump and I

2373
01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:28,740
wanted somebody to tell me oh?

2374
01:24:29,460 --> 01:24:35,120
Okay It's clearly Melania It doesn't look anything

2375
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:35,760
like her.

2376
01:24:35,980 --> 01:24:39,400
Oh, it's totally Melania It doesn't look anything

2377
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:40,940
like her and it's and the band it

2378
01:24:40,940 --> 01:24:42,580
has to be pre 2004.

2379
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,680
He wasn't dating her then I I don't

2380
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:47,900
know how long he's been dating.

2381
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,540
Well that doesn't mean that that what do

2382
01:24:49,540 --> 01:24:50,900
you mean it has to be pre?

2383
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,320
2004 because he broke up with Epstein as

2384
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,860
a no it's documented in 2004 he never

2385
01:24:56,860 --> 01:24:59,880
saw him again Well when he spoke to

2386
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,520
him after 2004 that was the date you

2387
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,200
got get all the clips you want that

2388
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,380
When did he start dating Melania?

2389
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,500
Well it had to be after Marla Maples,

2390
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,180
and when did he divorce Marla?

2391
01:25:12,180 --> 01:25:15,000
Let's find out when I'm trying to look

2392
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,280
at your timeline your timeline is one 100

2393
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:22,640
% tick-tock crazy videos Yeah, I can't

2394
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,320
even I can't even find them a lot

2395
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:24,860
in a video.

2396
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:26,300
Oh my goodness.

2397
01:25:26,420 --> 01:25:28,860
You're out of control It's not a video.

2398
01:25:29,060 --> 01:25:30,160
It is still photo.

2399
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,140
Who is this woman question mark?

2400
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,180
I constantly see this photo of Trump from

2401
01:25:34,180 --> 01:25:35,280
20 plus years ago.

2402
01:25:35,340 --> 01:25:36,180
Who is this woman?

2403
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,160
He is with why is she never identified?

2404
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,240
Yeah, well, what's wrong with that well, it's

2405
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,680
clearly Melania It's not clearly Melania.

2406
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,140
It doesn't look anything like her.

2407
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,860
It looks exactly like her When did they

2408
01:25:49,860 --> 01:25:51,800
first when did they first start dating?

2409
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,920
Let's see yeah look at it You do

2410
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,640
that now look at Marla Maples when this

2411
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:56,980
she was divorced, okay?

2412
01:25:57,020 --> 01:25:59,540
Well that doesn't doesn't mean he wasn't hanging

2413
01:25:59,540 --> 01:26:02,460
out with her at the time Here Zampoli

2414
01:26:02,460 --> 01:26:05,400
introduced her to Donald Trump in 1998 she

2415
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:10,580
began dating Donald Trump shortly thereafter Marla who

2416
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,160
Melania and Melania was dating Donald Trump in

2417
01:26:14,700 --> 01:26:20,620
1998 I didn't say that Zampoli Paolo Zampoli,

2418
01:26:20,940 --> 01:26:23,600
I'm sure a fine individual introduced her to

2419
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,260
Trump in 1998 she began dating Donald Trump

2420
01:26:26,260 --> 01:26:29,700
shortly thereafter Trump worked to get Melania modeling

2421
01:26:29,700 --> 01:26:33,320
jobs, and she supported him during his 2000

2422
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,660
presidential campaign and they were married in 2005

2423
01:26:37,380 --> 01:26:41,760
So that your timeline Well, maybe you're right,

2424
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,780
maybe I'm completely wrong and she's changed her

2425
01:26:43,780 --> 01:26:48,280
look which wouldn't surprise She's 25 years older

2426
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,460
or 20 years older than the picture Marla

2427
01:26:50,460 --> 01:26:54,000
got divorced in 1999 there There you go,

2428
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,560
but because he was dating with Melania in

2429
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:02,140
98 Hello So the timeline works Okay, so

2430
01:27:02,140 --> 01:27:05,020
you got me Well now I know I

2431
01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:09,460
wonder who this picture this woman was Okay,

2432
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,600
well now I didn't know that's why I

2433
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,300
asked that's what I use Twitter for I

2434
01:27:13,300 --> 01:27:15,220
use it for a point of information I

2435
01:27:15,220 --> 01:27:17,400
see this no he's showing up over and

2436
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,320
over and over again and nobody identifies And

2437
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,780
they say here's Trump with Epstein and Epstein's

2438
01:27:21,780 --> 01:27:25,360
with with Gislaine and there's no mention of

2439
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:29,000
the woman You do you use Twitter to

2440
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,380
a B test take crazy tik-tok videos

2441
01:27:32,380 --> 01:27:35,680
to play on one America news It's it's

2442
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:39,120
your protesting ground Do you see how many

2443
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:40,820
what what people like it the most thing

2444
01:27:40,820 --> 01:27:42,140
you have you been on her show?

2445
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:44,340
Oh, no, yeah, I was on again last

2446
01:27:44,340 --> 01:27:44,640
Friday.

2447
01:27:44,820 --> 01:27:46,600
Ah, I missed it.

2448
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,220
I need to do it You just grouse

2449
01:27:49,220 --> 01:27:49,800
about it.

2450
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,760
I think it's no I think you're doing

2451
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:53,220
it wrong.

2452
01:27:53,300 --> 01:27:54,980
You need to get an act together This

2453
01:27:54,980 --> 01:27:55,940
is why I'm grousing.

2454
01:27:56,180 --> 01:27:57,080
You'd be perfect.

2455
01:27:57,220 --> 01:27:57,840
You need a hat.

2456
01:27:57,980 --> 01:28:00,840
We already discussed that You need all the

2457
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:01,680
tech grouch.

2458
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,260
Yeah, you got to do a little crazy

2459
01:28:03,260 --> 01:28:05,440
voice And you got to say, you know,

2460
01:28:05,480 --> 01:28:07,140
you got to have a catchphrase.

2461
01:28:07,220 --> 01:28:09,280
You don't have a catchphrase I don't have

2462
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,460
a catchphrase catchphrase should be who are these

2463
01:28:12,460 --> 01:28:12,860
women?

2464
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,140
That should be your catchphrase Well, it's not

2465
01:28:15,140 --> 01:28:16,040
always just women.

2466
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:16,480
Okay.

2467
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:20,380
All right Anyway, I got a gem lined

2468
01:28:20,380 --> 01:28:24,940
up next I Noticed you stopped bringing them

2469
01:28:24,940 --> 01:28:26,600
to the show you're like I'm not giving

2470
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:27,920
away my good stuff here.

2471
01:28:28,060 --> 01:28:30,840
No, it is because no I Have an

2472
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:31,660
outlet for it.

2473
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,900
That's other than the show because you grouse

2474
01:28:33,900 --> 01:28:36,160
and moan and groan and make my life

2475
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:37,740
I'll bring the next show is gonna be

2476
01:28:37,740 --> 01:28:39,820
loaded with tick-tock loaded with tick-tocks

2477
01:28:39,820 --> 01:28:41,980
No, the next show on Thursday is going

2478
01:28:41,980 --> 01:28:44,560
to be our exit strategies, which is even

2479
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,200
better than tick-tocks Even it'll give a

2480
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:49,660
lot of people good ideas.

2481
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:50,180
Yes.

2482
01:28:50,420 --> 01:28:54,780
Yeah, we're full of them You're right or

2483
01:28:54,780 --> 01:28:55,660
hours worth.

2484
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,660
All right, what's the Boeve controversy?

2485
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:58,280
What is that?

2486
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,180
Okay, this is the guy that they're making

2487
01:29:00,180 --> 01:29:03,360
a big fuss about this guy He is

2488
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,280
the Trump lawyer who helped him out in

2489
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,040
some say well it's all explained in these

2490
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,660
clips, but he wants to make him a

2491
01:29:10,660 --> 01:29:13,000
member of one of the Circuit Courts of

2492
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,860
Appeal and Everybody's fighting against it and they

2493
01:29:15,860 --> 01:29:18,680
ramrodded it through the committee and the committee

2494
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,440
the Democrats in the committee This is what

2495
01:29:20,440 --> 01:29:26,580
the committee walked out and in Drama high

2496
01:29:26,580 --> 01:29:28,300
drama, how did I not catch this?

2497
01:29:28,420 --> 01:29:30,440
Oh the walkout was the best because you

2498
01:29:30,440 --> 01:29:35,300
had a Jerome, oh and and We're bitching

2499
01:29:35,300 --> 01:29:35,760
and moaning.

2500
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:36,580
What's his name?

2501
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,860
The black guy who's always yelling and screaming

2502
01:29:38,860 --> 01:29:40,540
who did the 17-hour?

2503
01:29:41,820 --> 01:29:44,560
Filibuster whose name for some reason eludes me.

2504
01:29:45,020 --> 01:29:46,520
Yeah, Cory, Cory Booker.

2505
01:29:46,620 --> 01:29:49,520
So Cory Booker's this is outrageous This is

2506
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,560
outrageous And then they all left and it

2507
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,280
was a big stink because they do trying

2508
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:54,500
to get this guy through so let's listen

2509
01:29:54,500 --> 01:29:57,800
to clip one President Trump helped reshape the

2510
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:00,060
federal courts during his first term in office

2511
01:30:00,060 --> 01:30:03,280
And he relied heavily on the Federalist Society

2512
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,600
in that effort Which helped him zero in

2513
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:09,340
on judges with a conservative originalist interpretation of

2514
01:30:09,340 --> 01:30:13,740
the Constitution Now the nominations machinery is restarting

2515
01:30:13,740 --> 01:30:17,440
in Trump's most controversial judicial nominee is only

2516
01:30:17,440 --> 01:30:19,380
one step Where is this who?

2517
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:24,000
What outlet is this NPR so they just

2518
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,340
say Trump they don't say President Trump anymore.

2519
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,000
They just say no That's NPR.

2520
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,880
They hate Trump Okay and I should mention

2521
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,040
they did talk about the Federalist Society and

2522
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,720
Trump's not using as much as he used

2523
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,060
to and they never mentioned the Reason, which

2524
01:30:37,060 --> 01:30:39,840
is Amy Coney Barrett who did who's you

2525
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:41,520
know, been kind of on the on this

2526
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,840
fence She's not that conservative a lot of

2527
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:44,060
issues.

2528
01:30:44,060 --> 01:30:46,240
That's why he stopped using the Heritage Foundation

2529
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:49,400
because they they boned him Well, it's it's

2530
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:51,160
the Federalist is this group here.

2531
01:30:51,220 --> 01:30:52,820
I'm sorry Federalist Society.

2532
01:30:52,940 --> 01:30:55,780
Yeah Yes, they boned it right and boned

2533
01:30:55,780 --> 01:30:59,000
it hurting in Trump's most controversial judicial nominee

2534
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,800
is only one step away from the federal

2535
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:05,320
bench I'm joined by NPR's Carrie Johnson for

2536
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,320
a look at what email Bovee could tell

2537
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,540
us about Trump's approach to judges in his

2538
01:31:09,540 --> 01:31:10,780
second term Carrie welcome.

2539
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,120
Hi wanna so Carrie start if you can

2540
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,320
by just telling us who anal Bovee is

2541
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:16,420
and why his nominee?

2542
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:16,920
I'm sorry.

2543
01:31:17,300 --> 01:31:22,060
I'm so irritated hearing anal Bovee Irritated by

2544
01:31:22,060 --> 01:31:26,120
this What happens in news where you just

2545
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,580
went like, okay we with us we have

2546
01:31:28,580 --> 01:31:31,000
John C Dvorak John tell us exactly what's

2547
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,340
going on here When did it have to

2548
01:31:33,340 --> 01:31:33,580
become?

2549
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:34,320
Hi, Amy?

2550
01:31:34,540 --> 01:31:34,700
Hi.

2551
01:31:34,780 --> 01:31:35,460
Hi, Nanny.

2552
01:31:35,580 --> 01:31:40,680
Hi, baby Why is that it doesn't it

2553
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,560
just wastes my time about Trump's approach to

2554
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,080
judges in a second term Carrie welcome Hi,

2555
01:31:46,140 --> 01:31:47,960
wanna so Gary start if you can by

2556
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,900
just telling us who anal Bovee is Well,

2557
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:55,260
he's got some pretty strong credentials He graduated

2558
01:31:55,260 --> 01:31:57,780
from Georgetown Law School did a couple of

2559
01:31:57,780 --> 01:32:00,500
clerkships with conservative federal judges and then got

2560
01:32:00,500 --> 01:32:02,020
a job in what might be the most

2561
01:32:02,020 --> 01:32:05,140
prestigious US Attorney's Office in the entire country

2562
01:32:05,140 --> 01:32:07,060
in Manhattan And of course, he went on

2563
01:32:07,060 --> 01:32:09,640
to defend Donald Trump in his various criminal

2564
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,960
cases the White House communications director says anal

2565
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:15,760
Bovee supremely qualified and a man of integrity

2566
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,440
He says there's nobody more capable for the

2567
01:32:18,440 --> 01:32:20,240
US Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit

2568
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,440
and at his confirmation hearing Bovee told senators

2569
01:32:23,440 --> 01:32:24,960
He's been misunderstood.

2570
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:26,920
I am NOT anybody's henchman.

2571
01:32:26,980 --> 01:32:29,420
I'm not an enforcer I'm a lawyer from

2572
01:32:29,420 --> 01:32:32,200
a small town who never expected to be

2573
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:33,100
in an arena like this.

2574
01:32:33,700 --> 01:32:36,240
It's a male a male a male or

2575
01:32:36,740 --> 01:32:38,340
Emil what is it?

2576
01:32:38,480 --> 01:32:39,140
I'm a male.

2577
01:32:39,340 --> 01:32:44,380
I mean I Like the other one Yeah,

2578
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,240
so this guy they make a big fuss

2579
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:47,420
first they give his credentials.

2580
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:48,180
He's fine.

2581
01:32:48,300 --> 01:32:51,960
No, no, no because he defended That's the

2582
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:52,320
problem.

2583
01:32:52,420 --> 01:32:55,120
That's the problem Yeah, here we go, but

2584
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,680
Bovee also ran into some complaints from colleagues

2585
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:59,840
and defense lawyers, right and if I understand

2586
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,340
Kerry He's also had an outsized role in

2587
01:33:02,340 --> 01:33:03,900
his brief time at the Department of Justice.

2588
01:33:04,060 --> 01:33:04,400
Is that right?

2589
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:06,620
He's the right-hand man to the deputy

2590
01:33:06,620 --> 01:33:09,320
attorney general which basically means all the day

2591
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,740
-to-day management of the Justice Department both

2592
01:33:11,740 --> 01:33:14,060
the big cases and Policies all of that

2593
01:33:14,060 --> 01:33:15,880
ends up on his desk and there's been

2594
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,480
a lot going on this year From firing

2595
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:21,180
prosecutors who worked on those January 6 cases

2596
01:33:21,180 --> 01:33:23,900
to walking away from the corruption case against

2597
01:33:23,900 --> 01:33:26,760
New York City's mayor Eric Adams a federal

2598
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,100
judge said the decision to drop that case

2599
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:31,620
smacked of a bargain where DOJ would move

2600
01:33:31,620 --> 01:33:33,820
to dismiss the case and Mayor Adams would

2601
01:33:33,820 --> 01:33:38,800
help advance Trump's aggressive deportation agenda 900 former

2602
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,260
Justice Department lawyers have urged the Senate to

2603
01:33:41,260 --> 01:33:44,120
vote no on Emil Bovee I spoke with

2604
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,500
Stacy Young who spent 18 years inside the

2605
01:33:46,500 --> 01:33:49,000
DOJ She now runs a group that connects

2606
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,200
people there with legal and ethics advice by

2607
01:33:52,780 --> 01:33:56,820
voting to confirm Emil Bovee to a lifetime

2608
01:33:56,820 --> 01:34:00,180
appointment They would be doing more than just

2609
01:34:00,180 --> 01:34:04,540
placing someone problematic on the bench They would

2610
01:34:04,540 --> 01:34:07,940
be giving their stamp of approval on everything

2611
01:34:07,940 --> 01:34:10,740
that's happened at DOJ in the last six

2612
01:34:10,740 --> 01:34:15,440
months And that is simply unacceptable You know

2613
01:34:15,440 --> 01:34:19,890
what is wrong with these people well my

2614
01:34:19,890 --> 01:34:24,070
question is We've had a lot of famous

2615
01:34:24,070 --> 01:34:28,130
Emils Right.

2616
01:34:28,730 --> 01:34:31,290
Yeah, like I wasn't there a chef a

2617
01:34:31,290 --> 01:34:37,450
chef named Emil Legassi Emil Legassi, but what

2618
01:34:37,450 --> 01:34:38,350
are their famous?

2619
01:34:40,070 --> 01:34:44,270
Emil Berliner I'm trying to think of other

2620
01:34:44,270 --> 01:34:48,770
but they've always pronounced as a meal Why

2621
01:34:48,770 --> 01:34:51,350
is he now Emil which of course we

2622
01:34:51,350 --> 01:34:52,670
all know sounds like anal?

2623
01:34:53,350 --> 01:34:56,130
Yeah, that's why that you just you answered

2624
01:34:56,130 --> 01:34:56,850
your own question.

2625
01:34:57,110 --> 01:34:59,150
They're really they're really doing this on purpose.

2626
01:34:59,250 --> 01:35:00,510
What is what this is horrible?

2627
01:35:01,450 --> 01:35:04,030
That this whole report is horrible fund them.

2628
01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:08,030
They're me What was too late?

2629
01:35:10,070 --> 01:35:12,370
Yeah, well that was Emeril, I'm sorry it

2630
01:35:12,370 --> 01:35:15,450
wasn't a mills Emeril Emeril Emeril Emeril Legassi,

2631
01:35:15,490 --> 01:35:19,630
yeah, but there's an Emeril It's a point

2632
01:35:19,630 --> 01:35:23,410
is well taken they're saying anal It's an

2633
01:35:23,410 --> 01:35:26,110
outrage I'm outraged by our national public radio

2634
01:35:28,030 --> 01:35:30,750
Three carry we know that President Trump appointed

2635
01:35:30,750 --> 01:35:32,290
a whole lot of judges during his first

2636
01:35:32,290 --> 01:35:35,290
term So, how does Bovee compare during Trump's

2637
01:35:35,290 --> 01:35:38,210
first term Trump confirmed more than 200 judges

2638
01:35:38,210 --> 01:35:39,990
with help from Senator Mitch McConnell?

2639
01:35:40,610 --> 01:35:43,050
Largely relying on a list the Federalist Society

2640
01:35:43,050 --> 01:35:45,470
helped create but both he's not a member

2641
01:35:45,470 --> 01:35:49,230
of the Federalist Society He's loyal and close

2642
01:35:49,230 --> 01:35:51,550
to people in the White House, though That's

2643
01:35:51,550 --> 01:35:54,410
what worries Greg Nunziata who helped advance judicial

2644
01:35:54,410 --> 01:35:57,170
nominees as a Republican Senate aid He now

2645
01:35:57,170 --> 01:35:59,810
works as executive director at Society for the

2646
01:35:59,810 --> 01:36:01,470
Rule of Law I think there are reasons

2647
01:36:01,470 --> 01:36:06,330
all Americans should be concerned about judges coming

2648
01:36:06,330 --> 01:36:09,930
to the bench with political agendas and Outcome

2649
01:36:09,930 --> 01:36:14,070
motivated orientation to judging that should concern everybody.

2650
01:36:14,230 --> 01:36:18,290
Yeah, you know Go on X dude No

2651
01:36:18,290 --> 01:36:20,150
one cares about anything anymore.

2652
01:36:20,210 --> 01:36:23,450
It's all slop And by the way, Trump

2653
01:36:23,450 --> 01:36:26,670
did 200 judges Biden did 235 in his

2654
01:36:26,670 --> 01:36:29,470
term Yeah, well, of course, they will not

2655
01:36:29,470 --> 01:36:31,490
mention that and and all of them were

2656
01:36:31,490 --> 01:36:32,050
appointed.

2657
01:36:32,250 --> 01:36:35,270
They're all liberals as the Autopen, so it

2658
01:36:35,270 --> 01:36:39,570
wasn't actually Biden Well, somebody somebody gave instructions.

2659
01:36:39,810 --> 01:36:44,330
But yes Well, of course So that this

2660
01:36:44,330 --> 01:36:46,810
is bogus, but let's go and wrap it

2661
01:36:46,810 --> 01:36:48,650
up here with a couple more It's especially

2662
01:36:48,650 --> 01:36:51,210
notable that President Trump is breaking with the

2663
01:36:51,210 --> 01:36:53,610
Federalist Society Because that group has been just

2664
01:36:53,610 --> 01:36:56,150
extremely successful at stacking the federal bench with

2665
01:36:56,150 --> 01:36:58,910
very conservative judges Right, and that success helped

2666
01:36:58,910 --> 01:37:02,290
culminate in a six to three conservative supermajority

2667
01:37:02,290 --> 01:37:05,510
on today's Supreme Court that effort began over

2668
01:37:05,510 --> 01:37:07,470
a generation ago in law schools and it

2669
01:37:07,470 --> 01:37:10,090
continued all the way through Donald Trump's first

2670
01:37:10,090 --> 01:37:13,130
term in office where nominees with conservative track

2671
01:37:13,130 --> 01:37:15,850
records were closely vetted their writings were tracked

2672
01:37:15,850 --> 01:37:18,550
the idea was to ensure these very Conservative

2673
01:37:18,550 --> 01:37:22,250
lawyers would stay conservative and it drew avoid

2674
01:37:22,250 --> 01:37:24,430
the kind of drift that say former justice

2675
01:37:24,430 --> 01:37:26,970
David Souter and former justice Sandra Day O

2676
01:37:26,970 --> 01:37:28,950
'Connor may have represented, right?

2677
01:37:29,030 --> 01:37:29,190
Okay.

2678
01:37:29,230 --> 01:37:30,650
Well, I mean given the fact that the

2679
01:37:30,650 --> 01:37:32,950
Federalist Society has been so successful.

2680
01:37:32,950 --> 01:37:33,610
Tell us why?

2681
01:37:33,950 --> 01:37:36,470
I think there's a simple reason there are

2682
01:37:36,470 --> 01:37:38,550
hundreds of cases that have been filed against

2683
01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:41,870
the Trump administration this year Challenging his policies

2684
01:37:41,870 --> 01:37:44,790
his immigration agenda the efforts to remake the

2685
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:46,930
federal government and the president has really been

2686
01:37:46,930 --> 01:37:50,070
Frustrated we're lower court judges who ruled against

2687
01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:52,550
him judges that were appointed by both Democratic

2688
01:37:52,550 --> 01:37:55,230
and Republican presidents Trump went so far as

2689
01:37:55,230 --> 01:37:58,410
to attack Leonard Leo the longtime Federalist Society

2690
01:37:58,410 --> 01:38:00,930
official in a social media post this year

2691
01:38:00,930 --> 01:38:02,610
as he was losing in the lower courts

2692
01:38:02,610 --> 01:38:07,010
Trump called him a sleazebag You know, yeah

2693
01:38:07,010 --> 01:38:09,070
the mistake these guys make is they're not

2694
01:38:09,070 --> 01:38:13,450
really explaining what's going on No, dumb hicks

2695
01:38:13,450 --> 01:38:15,810
in Texas like me, I don't understand any

2696
01:38:15,810 --> 01:38:19,210
of this and I don't care like judge

2697
01:38:19,210 --> 01:38:26,370
smudge Shame a mole nitrate, whatever So they

2698
01:38:26,370 --> 01:38:29,090
get the Federalist Society now what gets me

2699
01:38:29,090 --> 01:38:31,190
here and you do know what's going on

2700
01:38:31,190 --> 01:38:33,690
What gets me here is that they're bitching

2701
01:38:33,690 --> 01:38:35,790
and moaning about the Federalist Society the first

2702
01:38:35,790 --> 01:38:44,470
go-round now He's got him loose Whatever

2703
01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:45,630
he does is bad.

2704
01:38:45,730 --> 01:38:47,490
So listen, this is the last clip We'll

2705
01:38:47,490 --> 01:38:49,070
just point out here that judges are supposed

2706
01:38:49,070 --> 01:38:51,370
to be independent of the president who appointed

2707
01:38:51,370 --> 01:38:54,130
them They're not political actors Kerry Johnson How

2708
01:38:54,130 --> 01:38:56,730
do you expect this to shape the judiciary

2709
01:38:56,730 --> 01:38:59,110
given the fact that these are lifetime appointments?

2710
01:38:59,390 --> 01:39:01,890
No, the Senate has already confirmed Trump's first

2711
01:39:01,890 --> 01:39:04,550
federal judge several more are in the pipeline

2712
01:39:04,550 --> 01:39:07,570
There are fewer judicial vacancies now than in

2713
01:39:07,570 --> 01:39:09,450
Trump's first go-round in the White House

2714
01:39:09,450 --> 01:39:11,990
And there's also some evidence judges may be

2715
01:39:11,990 --> 01:39:13,350
delaying their retirement.

2716
01:39:13,590 --> 01:39:16,150
So their replacements are not picked by Trump

2717
01:39:16,150 --> 01:39:16,710
Hmm.

2718
01:39:17,090 --> 01:39:19,430
I mean there are hundreds of federal judges

2719
01:39:19,430 --> 01:39:22,350
bovie is just one person So is this

2720
01:39:22,350 --> 01:39:24,870
confirmation really likely to make a difference in

2721
01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:26,710
how Trump's policies there in court friends?

2722
01:39:26,870 --> 01:39:27,910
You know, this is a fair point.

2723
01:39:27,950 --> 01:39:29,710
I've been talking with experts They tell me

2724
01:39:29,710 --> 01:39:31,970
appeals court judges sit on panels of three

2725
01:39:31,970 --> 01:39:34,170
So any one judge is not gonna tip

2726
01:39:34,170 --> 01:39:36,090
the balance of power But if and when

2727
01:39:36,090 --> 01:39:37,990
the president gets a vacancy on the Supreme

2728
01:39:37,990 --> 01:39:40,270
Court and that nominee could have a lot

2729
01:39:40,270 --> 01:39:43,010
more influence Oh, they're emo bovie would be

2730
01:39:43,010 --> 01:39:46,170
at the top of Trump's list Legal community

2731
01:39:46,170 --> 01:39:48,670
tell me they think it's a possibility Trump

2732
01:39:48,670 --> 01:39:50,450
has been winning a lot this year in

2733
01:39:50,450 --> 01:39:52,930
the Supreme Court and that's ultimately where this

2734
01:39:52,930 --> 01:39:54,030
matters What do you mean?

2735
01:39:54,110 --> 01:39:55,850
What about what about Ted Cruz?

2736
01:39:56,910 --> 01:39:59,770
I Thought he was next in line Well,

2737
01:39:59,810 --> 01:40:02,170
that'd be a good idea Please get him

2738
01:40:02,170 --> 01:40:03,950
out of Congress Senate at this point.

2739
01:40:04,150 --> 01:40:05,830
The great thing about Ted Cruz is he

2740
01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:10,630
wouldn't be talking on television anymore Because Supreme

2741
01:40:10,630 --> 01:40:12,930
Court justices don't typically do that, you know,

2742
01:40:12,990 --> 01:40:15,290
they write their opinion or they're just well

2743
01:40:15,290 --> 01:40:18,850
What's-her-name Jackson does no, that's true.

2744
01:40:19,270 --> 01:40:22,710
I had an experience with our justice system

2745
01:40:22,710 --> 01:40:25,230
this past weekend No, you got pulled over

2746
01:40:25,230 --> 01:40:27,410
for what no I I took my first

2747
01:40:27,410 --> 01:40:30,630
trip to a federal correction facility in, Texas

2748
01:40:31,810 --> 01:40:34,890
well How long they lock you up?

2749
01:40:35,510 --> 01:40:37,390
Now to visit a friend of mine who's

2750
01:40:37,390 --> 01:40:41,750
in for ten This is the doctor yeah

2751
01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:45,090
who we're hoping you know, there's appeal and

2752
01:40:45,090 --> 01:40:46,990
all kinds of stuff It's he definitely got

2753
01:40:46,990 --> 01:40:47,690
railroaded.

2754
01:40:47,910 --> 01:40:49,970
Yeah a doctor who got railroaded.

2755
01:40:50,070 --> 01:40:53,110
No, you know, it happens So but he's

2756
01:40:53,110 --> 01:40:56,810
in the camp The camp the camp.

2757
01:40:57,010 --> 01:40:58,210
Yeah, you know, it's like this.

2758
01:40:58,310 --> 01:41:01,310
Oh, it's it's the minimal lock-up and

2759
01:41:02,970 --> 01:41:04,650
You know, so and I've never been out

2760
01:41:04,650 --> 01:41:06,130
there's like two and a half hour drive

2761
01:41:06,130 --> 01:41:08,970
So I and then I've been told okay,

2762
01:41:09,050 --> 01:41:10,790
you know, you you gotta arrive at this

2763
01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:12,810
time Otherwise, I won't let you in you

2764
01:41:12,810 --> 01:41:14,210
can't go in with anything.

2765
01:41:14,210 --> 01:41:15,870
You can't have your phone on you was

2766
01:41:15,870 --> 01:41:18,430
like, okay fine So I guess my gun

2767
01:41:18,430 --> 01:41:18,770
is out.

2768
01:41:18,850 --> 01:41:18,970
Yeah.

2769
01:41:19,010 --> 01:41:21,550
Okay, so can't have any of that You

2770
01:41:21,550 --> 01:41:24,390
have to have a clear bag a clear

2771
01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:26,590
bag with your driver's license They can see

2772
01:41:26,590 --> 01:41:29,330
it and dollar bills only dollar bills for

2773
01:41:29,330 --> 01:41:31,690
the vending machine, you know Because I guess

2774
01:41:31,690 --> 01:41:33,030
that's the only thing you can eat There

2775
01:41:33,030 --> 01:41:34,610
is it from the vending machine in the

2776
01:41:34,610 --> 01:41:37,050
visitor's office and they have me all and

2777
01:41:37,050 --> 01:41:38,490
I took my belt off You know, I'm

2778
01:41:38,490 --> 01:41:41,930
all jacked up like no You know, I

2779
01:41:41,930 --> 01:41:42,970
just x-ray.

2780
01:41:43,110 --> 01:41:43,210
Yeah.

2781
01:41:43,530 --> 01:41:45,290
Well, this is I didn't know what to

2782
01:41:45,290 --> 01:41:47,870
expect but the way it was Presented to

2783
01:41:47,870 --> 01:41:50,430
me I was I was you know cautious

2784
01:41:50,430 --> 01:41:51,170
pat you down.

2785
01:41:51,410 --> 01:41:55,150
So I walk up you open the doors

2786
01:41:56,150 --> 01:41:58,930
Double opening doors and right there.

2787
01:41:59,050 --> 01:41:59,330
Boom.

2788
01:41:59,750 --> 01:42:01,750
You're you're in the room with all the

2789
01:42:01,750 --> 01:42:04,490
inmates and their visitors It's like a DMV

2790
01:42:04,490 --> 01:42:06,270
waiting room Huh?

2791
01:42:06,730 --> 01:42:08,730
And and you know, it's really and and

2792
01:42:08,730 --> 01:42:11,130
the the welcome desk is at the far

2793
01:42:11,130 --> 01:42:13,650
side of the room There's no scanner.

2794
01:42:13,870 --> 01:42:15,510
I mean I could have walked in with

2795
01:42:15,510 --> 01:42:18,290
anything And I you know, I asked for

2796
01:42:18,290 --> 01:42:21,690
for my inmate and then what do you

2797
01:42:21,690 --> 01:42:22,870
think the guy says to me?

2798
01:42:24,950 --> 01:42:27,070
Uh, I don't know what would he say

2799
01:42:27,070 --> 01:42:32,510
you got any cool stories on Aussie What

2800
01:42:32,510 --> 01:42:35,330
Ozzy Ozzy Osbourne, oh they knew who you

2801
01:42:35,330 --> 01:42:37,110
were these guys are like Oh, hey, tell

2802
01:42:37,110 --> 01:42:38,550
me about the story would tell me where

2803
01:42:38,550 --> 01:42:40,410
you met Ozzy and it was the most

2804
01:42:40,410 --> 01:42:42,970
laid-back thing I've ever witnessed It was

2805
01:42:42,970 --> 01:42:43,650
surprising.

2806
01:42:43,930 --> 01:42:46,270
There's people in there bringing in Kentucky fried

2807
01:42:46,270 --> 01:42:49,870
chicken and all and just everyone's having parties.

2808
01:42:50,170 --> 01:42:52,810
It was Nothing that I like I sound

2809
01:42:52,810 --> 01:42:53,830
like anything.

2810
01:42:54,010 --> 01:42:55,910
Why they give you the prepping that was

2811
01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:59,210
inaccurate Well, I guess there's difference in guards.

2812
01:42:59,310 --> 01:43:01,250
You can have some of the psychos and

2813
01:43:01,250 --> 01:43:04,330
I guess it was not psycho day But

2814
01:43:04,330 --> 01:43:06,970
even so I mean, there's no security pretty

2815
01:43:06,970 --> 01:43:10,510
much Yeah, I mean obviously the whole thing

2816
01:43:10,510 --> 01:43:16,500
sucks But it was it was quite interesting

2817
01:43:16,500 --> 01:43:21,560
to to witness Well that boom who always

2818
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:23,720
gonna say that transitions nicely to the alligator

2819
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:24,720
alley stories.

2820
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:28,240
Oh Yeah, but I say alligator alley you

2821
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:31,640
did an alligator alley is something completely different

2822
01:43:32,440 --> 01:43:36,140
to me alligator alley means I'm going back

2823
01:43:36,140 --> 01:43:41,020
to 1997 1996 Think new ideas in New

2824
01:43:41,020 --> 01:43:42,720
York and we didn't know each other then

2825
01:43:43,620 --> 01:43:46,040
Where we were growing out of our we

2826
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,480
actually did if it was 97 we met

2827
01:43:48,480 --> 01:43:52,240
in 93 Right, but we that was just

2828
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:53,540
a meeting on the no.

2829
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:56,080
Yeah, which is No, yeah, that was it

2830
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:57,640
was that was a like a show business

2831
01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:57,940
meeting.

2832
01:43:58,060 --> 01:43:59,440
We bumped into yes It was a show

2833
01:43:59,440 --> 01:44:01,040
fan of your work man big fan of

2834
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,220
your work Love your the best.

2835
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:05,500
Yeah, you're man.

2836
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,680
You're so awesome No, this is think new

2837
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,100
ideas 100 people in the New York office

2838
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:13,240
and we were building out a second floor.

2839
01:44:13,380 --> 01:44:16,180
We were growing so fast and So we

2840
01:44:16,180 --> 01:44:21,360
had all of these Coders who were basically

2841
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,860
building websites for Reebok and you know Johnson

2842
01:44:24,860 --> 01:44:29,440
and Johnson Tampax calm And just doing HTML.

2843
01:44:29,700 --> 01:44:31,040
This was this was when you could still

2844
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:34,060
charge a company like that $150,000 a

2845
01:44:34,060 --> 01:44:34,760
month for maintenance.

2846
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:40,260
We're gonna maintain maintain your website And so

2847
01:44:40,260 --> 01:44:42,040
you had all of these chair backs on

2848
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,120
either side of this aisle But if if

2849
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:46,440
you walked in between them and someone happened

2850
01:44:46,440 --> 01:44:48,920
to slide their chair back boom you you

2851
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:51,080
get caught That was alligator alley.

2852
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:54,200
Oh Yeah.

2853
01:44:54,340 --> 01:44:54,700
Wow.

2854
01:44:54,820 --> 01:44:59,920
Yeah, it's a long walk okay, I have

2855
01:44:59,920 --> 01:45:03,700
a couple of clips but but Including the

2856
01:45:03,700 --> 01:45:06,200
bonus clips The two of them.

2857
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,340
Mm-hmm, but let's play these first these

2858
01:45:08,340 --> 01:45:10,740
other ones because the bonus clips are quite

2859
01:45:10,740 --> 01:45:12,520
funny But this is the first this again

2860
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:13,100
the NPR.

2861
01:45:13,300 --> 01:45:15,640
This is against Scott and his buddy This

2862
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,580
is the first NPR alligator one Florida governor

2863
01:45:18,580 --> 01:45:21,880
Ron DeSantis says these first deportation flights have

2864
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:24,680
begun from the new migrant detention center referred

2865
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:27,640
to by President Trump and others as alligator

2866
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,080
Alcatraz The remote facility and the Everglades has

2867
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:34,980
come under intense scrutiny and generated controversy Some

2868
01:45:34,980 --> 01:45:38,420
people now detained there allege harsh treatment by

2869
01:45:38,420 --> 01:45:41,620
guards Tim Padgett with our member station WLRN

2870
01:45:41,620 --> 01:45:43,780
in Miami has been following the story Tim.

2871
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:44,880
Thanks for being with us.

2872
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,020
Thank you Scott first Please remind us how

2873
01:45:47,020 --> 01:45:50,320
this detention center came about and immediately became

2874
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,260
a source of controversy Well, it was a

2875
01:45:52,260 --> 01:45:55,040
very sudden action taken by Florida governor Ron

2876
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:58,020
DeSantis late last month out on an idle

2877
01:45:58,020 --> 01:46:01,080
airstrip in the remote Everglades where the concept

2878
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,660
was that Detainees would of course be met

2879
01:46:03,660 --> 01:46:06,240
by alligators and other wildlife if they try

2880
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,660
to escape President Trump and DeSantis hope it

2881
01:46:09,660 --> 01:46:11,980
will serve as a sort of punitive showcase

2882
01:46:11,980 --> 01:46:15,880
to deter illegal immigration Critics say it's just

2883
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:19,440
one more piece of performative demonization of immigrants

2884
01:46:19,440 --> 01:46:23,400
and Although immigrant alligator Alcatraz is for immigrant

2885
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,440
detention, which is supposedly a federal function It's

2886
01:46:26,440 --> 01:46:30,320
run by Florida's Division of Emergency Management but

2887
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:32,840
apparently DeSantis is going to tap into federal

2888
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:36,420
FEMA money to reimburse, Florida for the 450

2889
01:46:36,420 --> 01:46:38,680
million dollar cost of its first year of

2890
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:39,260
operation.

2891
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:43,320
I'm just it's abhorrent that they say immigrants

2892
01:46:43,860 --> 01:46:49,460
It's not these illegal Illegal deportees whatever you

2893
01:46:49,460 --> 01:46:50,140
want to call them.

2894
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:52,900
It's not they also admit to trivialize the

2895
01:46:52,900 --> 01:46:56,340
idea of its being an airstrip Which is

2896
01:46:56,340 --> 01:46:58,640
critically important because you take him right out

2897
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:01,240
you fly him away Well, I know but

2898
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:02,920
it's not but this air the so-called

2899
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:05,700
airstrip is actually a ten thousand foot runway

2900
01:47:05,700 --> 01:47:09,260
that was designed for the Concorde I didn't

2901
01:47:09,260 --> 01:47:10,900
know it's designed for the Concorde, but it's

2902
01:47:10,900 --> 01:47:12,000
it's a proper runway.

2903
01:47:12,180 --> 01:47:12,380
Yeah.

2904
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:14,780
Yeah, it's a big old It's not an

2905
01:47:14,780 --> 01:47:16,840
you to me an airstrip is like a

2906
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:20,500
grass grass strip Yeah, you got like yeah.

2907
01:47:20,500 --> 01:47:20,800
All right.

2908
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:26,240
We're flying the drugs into the airstrip Yes,

2909
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,380
it's a huge runway that's sitting there idle

2910
01:47:29,380 --> 01:47:30,880
so they figured they'd use it for someone

2911
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:32,760
I think why don't they just say newcomers

2912
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:34,420
again, and we should go back to newcomers.

2913
01:47:34,540 --> 01:47:36,140
That would be even better That would be

2914
01:47:36,140 --> 01:47:39,360
better newcomers either way a big reality is

2915
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,960
that it's a hastily constructed tent structure with

2916
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:46,460
caged cells for up to 5,000 detainees

2917
01:47:46,460 --> 01:47:51,060
so Detainees have complained of substandard food large

2918
01:47:51,060 --> 01:47:57,640
mosquitoes overflowing toilets stop So I witnessed what

2919
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:03,020
our non newcomers go through It's all it's

2920
01:48:03,020 --> 01:48:03,520
junk.

2921
01:48:03,660 --> 01:48:05,440
It's crap by the way.

2922
01:48:05,620 --> 01:48:07,300
Do you know what the currency is in

2923
01:48:07,300 --> 01:48:08,460
in the pen?

2924
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:09,580
Do you know what they use?

2925
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:10,940
Well, I used to be cigarettes.

2926
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:15,180
Yeah, it's it's now max max Now, I

2927
01:48:15,180 --> 01:48:20,480
know what a max is mackerels Mackerels So

2928
01:48:20,480 --> 01:48:22,520
they buy mackerels you can buy them an

2929
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:26,560
individually wrapped mackerel And Matt you're talking about

2930
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:27,440
a fish fish.

2931
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:27,840
Yes.

2932
01:48:28,260 --> 01:48:31,080
Yes And so hey how much if I

2933
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,240
could make that not that not that okay,

2934
01:48:33,380 --> 01:48:35,720
I don't use that example But you know,

2935
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,340
there's if you want stuff inside if you

2936
01:48:38,340 --> 01:48:40,500
want someone to do something, you know They

2937
01:48:40,500 --> 01:48:42,960
have to have a currency all all all

2938
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:46,520
Societies even incarcerated have a currency and in

2939
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:47,860
this particular facility.

2940
01:48:47,860 --> 01:48:51,420
It's mackerel And so that's got a stink

2941
01:48:51,420 --> 01:48:52,180
to high heaven.

2942
01:48:52,300 --> 01:48:55,700
Well, they're packaged they're packaged and And so

2943
01:48:55,700 --> 01:48:56,920
that'll cost you thank you.

2944
01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:59,200
This is the funniest thing that you've said

2945
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:00,840
for a while You know what that it's

2946
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:03,500
packaged or the know that there's mackerels being

2947
01:49:03,500 --> 01:49:07,520
passed around Yes, it'll cost you three max.

2948
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:09,760
Okay three max and then at the end

2949
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,440
Some of these guys they make sushi out

2950
01:49:12,440 --> 01:49:14,720
of the mackerels and they make it with

2951
01:49:16,660 --> 01:49:18,920
Was it with that what's that orange rice

2952
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:23,280
Like chemical rice basically, so I'll take some

2953
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:24,840
I have no idea what you're talking about

2954
01:49:26,220 --> 01:49:29,160
And but basically they take Cheetos and they

2955
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:31,340
and they wrap it all my buddy was

2956
01:49:31,340 --> 01:49:33,280
telling me the whole thing and they make

2957
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:35,040
Sushi out of it.

2958
01:49:35,420 --> 01:49:37,960
There's all kinds of shenanigans going on But

2959
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,560
I love that the mackerels is the is

2960
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:42,420
the currency it just proves that you know

2961
01:49:42,420 --> 01:49:44,660
Anything can be a currency and they use

2962
01:49:44,660 --> 01:49:45,220
mackerels.

2963
01:49:47,460 --> 01:49:49,120
I thought I thought you'd like that All

2964
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:49,540
right back.

2965
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:51,100
I did I liked it a lot back

2966
01:49:51,100 --> 01:49:54,200
to your clip scant air conditioning lights on

2967
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:57,360
Continuously a lack of access to showers and

2968
01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:01,280
especially access to lawyers Who say they're not

2969
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,720
allowed in the facility and can only engage

2970
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:04,540
their detainee?

2971
01:50:04,660 --> 01:50:07,220
Clients by phone or zoom and I gather

2972
01:50:07,220 --> 01:50:09,320
this week you spoke with a Nicaraguan migrant

2973
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:12,340
inside the detention center What did he say?

2974
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,360
Well, he's a 21 year old asylum seeker

2975
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:17,300
who says he came to the US border

2976
01:50:17,300 --> 01:50:21,820
in 2023 as a student protester Fleeing Nicaragua's

2977
01:50:21,820 --> 01:50:25,860
brutal Ortega dictatorship Asylum seeker who did not

2978
01:50:25,860 --> 01:50:28,240
go through the asylum seeking process.

2979
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,820
I'm so sick of these people He asked

2980
01:50:30,820 --> 01:50:32,360
that his name not be used for fear

2981
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:36,200
of government retaliation here He'd been arrested in

2982
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:39,560
Fort Lauderdale before this for improper exhibition of

2983
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:42,040
a firearm, but he was not convicted So

2984
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,340
he's one of the hundreds of non-criminal

2985
01:50:44,340 --> 01:50:47,180
migrants in alligator Alcatraz, which is a facility

2986
01:50:47,180 --> 01:50:48,820
that was supposedly for criminal.

2987
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,200
Come on Let me listen again.

2988
01:50:51,300 --> 01:50:54,400
These words are no wonder the people in

2989
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:58,300
Austin are insane They're being propagandized with lies

2990
01:50:58,300 --> 01:51:01,000
and fake language Let's listen again one of

2991
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,420
the hundreds of non-criminal migrants and non

2992
01:51:03,420 --> 01:51:06,660
-criminal migrants You may be a non-criminal

2993
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:10,080
Illegal alien, but you're not a non-criminal

2994
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:13,460
migrant This is sick of these people one

2995
01:51:13,460 --> 01:51:15,660
of the hundreds of non-criminal migrants in

2996
01:51:15,660 --> 01:51:18,080
alligator Alcatraz Which is a facility that was

2997
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:22,540
supposedly for criminal Migrants only and he claims

2998
01:51:22,540 --> 01:51:25,020
that after a shouting match with guards last

2999
01:51:25,020 --> 01:51:29,040
Saturday over detainee clothing Regulations one of them

3000
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,460
called the man who is black the n

3001
01:51:31,460 --> 01:51:34,180
-word and they shackled his hands and feet

3002
01:51:34,180 --> 01:51:38,140
Yeah, okay Well, they do a lot worse

3003
01:51:38,140 --> 01:51:40,820
to our American citizens in the pen.

3004
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:44,810
I can I can testify to that It's

3005
01:51:44,810 --> 01:51:47,590
Unbelievable these reports wait wait to hear that

3006
01:51:47,590 --> 01:51:49,850
the nonsense from CNN which is coming up

3007
01:51:49,850 --> 01:51:51,930
This is the third clip from NPR He

3008
01:51:51,930 --> 01:51:53,830
says they then put him outside and what

3009
01:51:53,830 --> 01:51:56,750
they call the box four by four foot

3010
01:51:56,750 --> 01:51:59,990
square He said directly in the hot Florida

3011
01:51:59,990 --> 01:52:03,210
Sun Yeah known as the shoe the shoe

3012
01:52:03,210 --> 01:52:05,150
man the special housing unit.

3013
01:52:05,270 --> 01:52:18,350
Here's what he told me I Claims

3014
01:52:18,350 --> 01:52:20,970
that when a fellow detainee from Honduras complained

3015
01:52:20,970 --> 01:52:23,510
to the guards about this punishment They did

3016
01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:25,370
it to him to of course Tim It's

3017
01:52:25,370 --> 01:52:28,230
hard to verify what the detainees say when

3018
01:52:28,230 --> 01:52:30,010
there's little access, but we'll report it.

3019
01:52:30,190 --> 01:52:32,850
Anyway, what I said It was hard to

3020
01:52:32,850 --> 01:52:34,810
verify but we'll report it as fact Of

3021
01:52:34,810 --> 01:52:36,870
course to him to of course Tim it's

3022
01:52:36,870 --> 01:52:39,710
hard to verify what the detainees say When

3023
01:52:39,710 --> 01:52:42,250
there's little access for journalists or lawyers in

3024
01:52:42,250 --> 01:52:45,170
that place How do officials respond to these

3025
01:52:45,170 --> 01:52:48,470
allegations, that's right, but the Florida Division of

3026
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:52,550
Emergency Management Categorically denies the claims of punishment

3027
01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:56,790
as quote false It insists that alligator Alcatraz

3028
01:52:56,790 --> 01:52:59,570
guards do not punish detainees and that they

3029
01:52:59,570 --> 01:53:03,650
follow all proper prison state and federal protocols

3030
01:53:03,650 --> 01:53:06,750
But the other significant response has been from

3031
01:53:06,750 --> 01:53:09,790
Florida Republicans who insist the public needs to

3032
01:53:09,790 --> 01:53:12,750
remember that this is essentially a prison where

3033
01:53:12,750 --> 01:53:15,110
many if not most of the detainees do

3034
01:53:15,110 --> 01:53:18,050
in fact have criminal histories and That it's

3035
01:53:18,050 --> 01:53:20,450
not supposed to be as the Florida House

3036
01:53:20,450 --> 01:53:23,910
Speaker said recently a quote five-star resort

3037
01:53:23,910 --> 01:53:28,330
now My goodness, so we're getting at these

3038
01:53:28,330 --> 01:53:29,390
reports at CNN.

3039
01:53:29,650 --> 01:53:31,090
I have these two bonus clips.

3040
01:53:31,170 --> 01:53:34,150
I want to play the first one Because

3041
01:53:34,150 --> 01:53:36,070
it's the first one is actually a Woody

3042
01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:43,290
Allen joke Okay Yesterday the air conditioning went

3043
01:53:43,290 --> 01:53:45,870
out We had the whole morning without air

3044
01:53:45,870 --> 01:53:48,750
conditioning lots of mosquitoes came in because they

3045
01:53:48,750 --> 01:53:51,570
get in from all sides Multiple detainees say

3046
01:53:51,570 --> 01:53:53,490
they don't get enough food though.

3047
01:53:53,530 --> 01:53:55,490
They're served three meals a day and that

3048
01:53:55,490 --> 01:53:59,330
water is limited We go into the food

3049
01:53:59,330 --> 01:54:01,750
hall the food is very terrible here very

3050
01:54:01,750 --> 01:54:05,090
very very small portion Yeah, I don't know

3051
01:54:05,090 --> 01:54:07,210
food is bad and the portions are so

3052
01:54:07,210 --> 01:54:10,770
small oh, yeah, okay old Jewish joke Yeah,

3053
01:54:11,010 --> 01:54:12,770
that is way over.

3054
01:54:12,970 --> 01:54:14,650
Everybody said even mine.

3055
01:54:14,750 --> 01:54:14,970
Well.

3056
01:54:15,190 --> 01:54:15,650
It's nice.

3057
01:54:15,970 --> 01:54:17,190
That's why I explained it I'm not a

3058
01:54:17,190 --> 01:54:20,630
Woody Allen guy So let's go to it's

3059
01:54:20,630 --> 01:54:23,370
a Jewish joke, but he used the joke

3060
01:54:23,370 --> 01:54:27,810
in his nanny hall actually And here we

3061
01:54:27,810 --> 01:54:30,790
go to The second part of this was

3062
01:54:30,790 --> 01:54:33,450
more complaining this time about the water pressure

3063
01:54:33,450 --> 01:54:35,750
We've eaten as late as 10 at night

3064
01:54:35,750 --> 01:54:38,450
the food at night is cold, too There's

3065
01:54:38,450 --> 01:54:41,050
never a hot meal showers are located in

3066
01:54:41,050 --> 01:54:43,630
a separate tent and opportunities to shower There

3067
01:54:43,630 --> 01:54:46,090
are scarce according to the detainees we spoke

3068
01:54:46,090 --> 01:54:48,410
with all the showers are connected to the

3069
01:54:48,410 --> 01:54:50,810
same water source There's barely any water pressure

3070
01:54:50,810 --> 01:54:53,650
So we have to like literally put ourselves

3071
01:54:53,650 --> 01:54:55,610
on the wall right next to the water

3072
01:54:55,610 --> 01:54:57,290
drain So we can at least get hit

3073
01:54:57,290 --> 01:55:01,870
with water Oh, man They have no idea

3074
01:55:01,870 --> 01:55:05,170
You're you're lucky you're in federal lockup and

3075
01:55:05,170 --> 01:55:08,050
or in lockup that is maintained by the

3076
01:55:08,050 --> 01:55:12,430
government my buddies in a commercial prison Where

3077
01:55:12,430 --> 01:55:15,630
everything is scammed everything is is the cheapest

3078
01:55:15,630 --> 01:55:18,690
the most rotten the out of order not

3079
01:55:18,690 --> 01:55:19,310
working?

3080
01:55:20,850 --> 01:55:23,970
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is it this

3081
01:55:23,970 --> 01:55:27,090
I've ended in the media especially CNN and

3082
01:55:27,090 --> 01:55:29,070
NPR They're all they're on the side of

3083
01:55:29,070 --> 01:55:29,650
the immigrants.

3084
01:55:29,810 --> 01:55:32,150
You know he's sick of the immigrants immigrants

3085
01:55:32,150 --> 01:55:38,010
the asylum seekers the asylum seekers newcomers Yeah,

3086
01:55:38,010 --> 01:55:42,230
I mean Okay, it sucks.

3087
01:55:42,450 --> 01:55:45,230
I know that nobody likes seeing any and

3088
01:55:45,230 --> 01:55:47,770
we're nice Americans nobody no no one likes

3089
01:55:47,770 --> 01:55:51,210
to see anyone being rousted or Arrested for

3090
01:55:51,210 --> 01:55:53,850
you know trying to find a better life,

3091
01:55:53,850 --> 01:55:57,770
but I'm sorry If you don't do it

3092
01:55:57,770 --> 01:56:01,190
you get Europe and President Trump is right.

3093
01:56:01,310 --> 01:56:06,270
They are collapsing they're Collapsing and we still

3094
01:56:06,270 --> 01:56:08,370
still have a shot still have a shot

3095
01:56:08,370 --> 01:56:10,890
You know and and because of these reports

3096
01:56:10,890 --> 01:56:11,350
NPR.

3097
01:56:11,550 --> 01:56:14,430
This is why you have women Screaming at

3098
01:56:14,430 --> 01:56:16,430
ICE agents you're kidnapping him.

3099
01:56:16,430 --> 01:56:17,650
You're kidnapping him.

3100
01:56:17,750 --> 01:56:22,270
Oh, man Who who's gonna do my dishes?

3101
01:56:23,750 --> 01:56:25,590
Hunter who's gonna mow my lawn you know

3102
01:56:25,590 --> 01:56:26,950
what I got a kid who mows my

3103
01:56:26,950 --> 01:56:27,170
lawn.

3104
01:56:27,250 --> 01:56:31,250
He's an American Do a lawn?

3105
01:56:31,970 --> 01:56:35,850
Yeah, we got we got three acres It

3106
01:56:35,850 --> 01:56:36,770
doesn't mean you have a lawn.

3107
01:56:36,970 --> 01:56:37,650
It's all grass.

3108
01:56:37,990 --> 01:56:39,470
Yeah, if it was three if I had

3109
01:56:39,470 --> 01:56:41,670
three acres I'd broke baby three acres of

3110
01:56:41,670 --> 01:56:45,130
vines Yeah, no that the whole wine thing.

3111
01:56:45,290 --> 01:56:49,150
Here's a joke and vines it yeah What

3112
01:56:49,150 --> 01:56:50,690
Texas wine did you have recently?

3113
01:56:52,190 --> 01:56:54,250
Well there used to be a one good

3114
01:56:54,250 --> 01:56:56,270
winery actually is the Preston up in the

3115
01:56:56,270 --> 01:56:58,910
panhandle well Yes, the high the high plains.

3116
01:56:59,070 --> 01:57:00,990
Yeah, that's where they cuz it's cooler at

3117
01:57:00,990 --> 01:57:02,550
night It's too warm down here.

3118
01:57:02,610 --> 01:57:05,450
Although that is changing climate change is helping

3119
01:57:05,450 --> 01:57:07,930
us in that regard So while we're kind

3120
01:57:07,930 --> 01:57:11,030
of on on this topic President Trump just

3121
01:57:11,030 --> 01:57:12,730
signed an executive order which I think is

3122
01:57:12,730 --> 01:57:15,570
a really good one Let's see where's this

3123
01:57:15,570 --> 01:57:17,910
report from I'm sure no doubt.

3124
01:57:18,110 --> 01:57:20,210
Oh, it's KTLA so no doubt.

3125
01:57:20,310 --> 01:57:23,270
It's skewed But it's funny how KTLA's got

3126
01:57:23,270 --> 01:57:25,590
the funniest stuff Yeah, and then and they

3127
01:57:25,590 --> 01:57:27,470
also have Gavin Newsom in here going like

3128
01:57:27,470 --> 01:57:31,270
oh, I've been saying this for years So

3129
01:57:31,270 --> 01:57:35,070
the executive order is not just get all

3130
01:57:35,070 --> 01:57:36,950
the homeless off the streets and throw them

3131
01:57:36,950 --> 01:57:41,170
in the river No, he's bringing back medical

3132
01:57:41,170 --> 01:57:44,050
institutions for those who are addicted for those

3133
01:57:44,050 --> 01:57:48,690
who are have mental issues, which is probably

3134
01:57:48,690 --> 01:57:51,670
a lot of them and And I think

3135
01:57:51,670 --> 01:57:54,370
the addiction issue is the best because the

3136
01:57:54,370 --> 01:57:57,910
only solution we've seen from Cities like Los

3137
01:57:57,910 --> 01:58:01,450
Angeles like Los Angeles same goes for Austin

3138
01:58:01,450 --> 01:58:05,270
Dallas Houston all Democrat cities Democrat run cities.

3139
01:58:05,390 --> 01:58:06,230
I think all of them.

3140
01:58:06,350 --> 01:58:09,490
I think so Has always been we'll give

3141
01:58:09,490 --> 01:58:12,990
them a safe place to shoot up Let's

3142
01:58:12,990 --> 01:58:15,290
make sure they have safe drugs, which we

3143
01:58:15,290 --> 01:58:18,730
saw Needles which we saw fail in Europe

3144
01:58:18,730 --> 01:58:22,670
in in the 70s Oh the methadone bus

3145
01:58:22,670 --> 01:58:24,330
it will just have the methadone bus come

3146
01:58:24,330 --> 01:58:24,590
by.

3147
01:58:24,830 --> 01:58:28,330
It didn't work and No, it doesn't work.

3148
01:58:28,390 --> 01:58:30,390
It doesn't it really doesn't and it but

3149
01:58:30,390 --> 01:58:32,070
it's it's the humane thing to don't know

3150
01:58:32,070 --> 01:58:35,310
the humane thing is to bring back I

3151
01:58:35,310 --> 01:58:38,290
Guess in essence one flew over the cuckoo's

3152
01:58:38,290 --> 01:58:39,750
nest only make it better.

3153
01:58:40,870 --> 01:58:42,910
I Mean that went away with what Reagan

3154
01:58:42,910 --> 01:58:44,450
Reagan was the one who just got sick

3155
01:58:44,450 --> 01:58:46,090
and tired of people complaining about it And

3156
01:58:46,090 --> 01:58:48,710
he closed all of the mental institutions Yeah,

3157
01:58:48,970 --> 01:58:50,870
he Reagan got sick and tired of people

3158
01:58:50,870 --> 01:58:53,190
complaining about especially out here in California.

3159
01:58:53,430 --> 01:58:56,290
Oh, no, everybody's good They're just grabbing people

3160
01:58:56,290 --> 01:58:57,690
off the street and locking them up because

3161
01:58:57,690 --> 01:59:00,110
they're nuts and Reagan got sick of it

3162
01:59:00,110 --> 01:59:02,790
and he's basically Turned it around.

3163
01:59:02,910 --> 01:59:05,470
Okay, if you don't want people being in

3164
01:59:05,470 --> 01:59:08,730
the mental institution, we'll just leave him Leave

3165
01:59:08,730 --> 01:59:09,510
him out in the public.

3166
01:59:09,550 --> 01:59:11,550
I don't it was a bad decision, but

3167
01:59:11,550 --> 01:59:13,610
he does what yeah, I blame Reagan Yeah,

3168
01:59:13,770 --> 01:59:17,090
so President Trump has demanded money be be

3169
01:59:17,090 --> 01:59:19,710
redirected So the executive order is a lot

3170
01:59:19,710 --> 01:59:22,130
more extensive than what you're hearing in these

3171
01:59:22,130 --> 01:59:24,190
reports Yeah That new executive order from the

3172
01:59:24,190 --> 01:59:26,470
president aimed at making it easier for cities

3173
01:59:26,470 --> 01:59:29,250
and states across the country to remove Homeless

3174
01:59:29,250 --> 01:59:30,370
people from the streets.

3175
01:59:30,450 --> 01:59:32,230
We want to get straight to that Language

3176
01:59:32,230 --> 01:59:34,130
of the order from the White House so

3177
01:59:34,130 --> 01:59:35,350
you can see a little bit of it

3178
01:59:35,350 --> 01:59:37,830
for yourself It says it is targeted at

3179
01:59:37,830 --> 01:59:40,930
removing quote vagrant individuals from our streets and

3180
01:59:40,930 --> 01:59:45,250
redirects federal funds Towards programs that tackle substance

3181
01:59:45,250 --> 01:59:48,010
abuse this order seeking to shift federal grant

3182
01:59:48,010 --> 01:59:50,710
funding to states and cities that enforce prohibitions

3183
01:59:50,710 --> 01:59:54,910
on urban camping enforce prohibitions on drug use

3184
01:59:54,910 --> 01:59:57,530
and adopt policies allowing people with serious mental

3185
01:59:57,530 --> 02:00:00,610
illnesses or Substance abuse disorders to be forced

3186
02:00:00,610 --> 02:00:03,550
into treatment the governor responding to Trump's.

3187
02:00:03,590 --> 02:00:06,570
Oh, no, they're forcing them into treatment This

3188
02:00:06,570 --> 02:00:10,530
is inhumane Disorders to be forced into treatment

3189
02:00:10,530 --> 02:00:13,170
the governor responding to Trump's new executive order

3190
02:00:13,170 --> 02:00:15,150
saying it is remember they giving them free

3191
02:00:15,150 --> 02:00:17,770
tents That was the big idea in Austin.

3192
02:00:18,090 --> 02:00:19,610
Oh, we should give them tents.

3193
02:00:19,710 --> 02:00:21,490
So they so they're nice and warm and

3194
02:00:21,490 --> 02:00:24,050
free tents is what we do No, these

3195
02:00:24,050 --> 02:00:26,910
people need serious help since abuse disorders to

3196
02:00:26,910 --> 02:00:30,210
be forced into treatment the governor responding to

3197
02:00:31,610 --> 02:00:34,230
What I mean, it's funny to say forced

3198
02:00:34,230 --> 02:00:38,710
in we're gonna Forced in the tree American

3199
02:00:38,710 --> 02:00:41,310
citizens they in that well, yes, we need

3200
02:00:41,310 --> 02:00:43,630
to you sometimes you need to pick somebody

3201
02:00:43,630 --> 02:00:44,750
up and say, all right, buddy We're gonna

3202
02:00:44,750 --> 02:00:45,670
help you and we're gonna do it in

3203
02:00:45,670 --> 02:00:46,490
a different way.

3204
02:00:47,010 --> 02:00:50,290
Oh You don't don't you're unhousing them.

3205
02:00:50,370 --> 02:00:54,570
You're moving their house No, it's ruining it.

3206
02:00:54,690 --> 02:00:55,130
Yeah.

3207
02:00:55,530 --> 02:00:56,010
Yeah.

3208
02:00:56,070 --> 02:00:58,710
Well, I mean that that's this is this

3209
02:00:58,710 --> 02:01:01,430
executive order overrides all of that nonsense and

3210
02:01:01,990 --> 02:01:03,770
Money and he's putting money to it.

3211
02:01:03,810 --> 02:01:06,570
I like that now Will it be more?

3212
02:01:07,510 --> 02:01:10,710
lame Nonprofits that never want to get rid

3213
02:01:10,710 --> 02:01:11,590
of their clients.

3214
02:01:11,770 --> 02:01:11,910
Yep.

3215
02:01:12,190 --> 02:01:14,930
That's what's gonna end Unfortunately, because there's a

3216
02:01:14,930 --> 02:01:17,410
lot of programs that work see community first

3217
02:01:17,410 --> 02:01:21,150
village Right outside of us which brings us

3218
02:01:21,150 --> 02:01:23,330
to a story that we don't have any

3219
02:01:23,330 --> 02:01:24,890
clips for and I should have gotten clips

3220
02:01:24,890 --> 02:01:25,610
You don't have any clips.

3221
02:01:25,750 --> 02:01:27,970
I mean it comes about the 100 million

3222
02:01:27,970 --> 02:01:32,290
dollars of fire aid Los Angeles that went

3223
02:01:32,290 --> 02:01:36,830
to nonprofits and in NGOs and disappeared Will

3224
02:01:36,830 --> 02:01:40,470
continue with these this outrage mental illnesses or

3225
02:01:40,470 --> 02:01:43,670
substance abuse disorders to be forced into treatment

3226
02:01:43,670 --> 02:01:46,310
The governor responding to Trump's new executive order

3227
02:01:46,310 --> 02:01:48,730
saying it is more focused on creating distracting

3228
02:01:48,730 --> 02:01:52,050
headlines than producing a positive Impact about a

3229
02:01:52,050 --> 02:01:55,190
year ago Newsom issued an order encouraging cities

3230
02:01:55,190 --> 02:01:58,450
in the state to dismantle homeless encampments recently

3231
02:01:58,450 --> 02:02:01,890
Criticizing California cities and counties for not doing

3232
02:02:01,890 --> 02:02:02,850
enough on this issue.

3233
02:02:03,190 --> 02:02:05,370
I'm not interested in funding failure anymore I'm

3234
02:02:05,370 --> 02:02:08,030
not I won't time to do your job

3235
02:02:08,030 --> 02:02:10,130
people are dying on their watch dying on

3236
02:02:10,130 --> 02:02:12,130
their watch Look at these encampments.

3237
02:02:12,230 --> 02:02:13,350
They're a disgrace.

3238
02:02:13,470 --> 02:02:15,210
They've been there years and years and years

3239
02:02:15,210 --> 02:02:17,210
and years I've heard that same rhetoric for

3240
02:02:17,210 --> 02:02:20,870
years people are dying How long has Gavin

3241
02:02:20,870 --> 02:02:25,490
Newsom been governor years and years What a

3242
02:02:25,490 --> 02:02:29,250
douchebag In fact, he was the mayor of

3243
02:02:29,250 --> 02:02:32,510
San Francisco when it all really began unbelievable

3244
02:02:34,830 --> 02:02:36,890
One more topic before we take a break.

3245
02:02:36,910 --> 02:02:39,650
I I had a visit from Texas Slim

3246
02:02:39,650 --> 02:02:43,510
Friday You know bring bring boss of meat.

3247
02:02:43,730 --> 02:02:44,530
He sure did.

3248
02:02:44,730 --> 02:02:45,830
He should Texas Slim.

3249
02:02:45,950 --> 02:02:48,550
I've seen on the videos He is slim.

3250
02:02:48,970 --> 02:02:51,150
He is very slim and then he's very

3251
02:02:51,150 --> 02:02:53,870
recognizable and he you know, he runs the

3252
02:02:53,870 --> 02:02:57,030
beef initiative Beef initiative calm and what he's

3253
02:02:57,030 --> 02:02:58,570
been saying for years.

3254
02:02:58,650 --> 02:03:01,090
He's been saying we're going towards the collapse.

3255
02:03:01,230 --> 02:03:04,530
We're not gonna have any more beef He

3256
02:03:04,530 --> 02:03:06,670
says is and he's been saying and it's

3257
02:03:06,670 --> 02:03:09,790
finally here They have the collapse today.

3258
02:03:09,910 --> 02:03:11,730
And finally the collapse is just about to

3259
02:03:11,730 --> 02:03:12,030
happen.

3260
02:03:12,090 --> 02:03:15,830
He He's down in Kerrville, he brought $10

3261
02:03:15,830 --> 02:03:18,070
,000 worth of ground beef to the Mercy

3262
02:03:18,070 --> 02:03:21,830
chefs, by the way Expect to be in

3263
02:03:21,830 --> 02:03:24,330
the in the flood area the flooded area

3264
02:03:24,330 --> 02:03:28,690
for another 12 months It's it's a little

3265
02:03:28,690 --> 02:03:30,090
it's you know, it's not like over.

3266
02:03:30,190 --> 02:03:31,110
It's not like it went away.

3267
02:03:31,170 --> 02:03:34,750
I I hear you Western, North Carolina And

3268
02:03:34,750 --> 02:03:37,010
he said he said look at the futures.

3269
02:03:37,170 --> 02:03:37,990
Look at what's going on.

3270
02:03:38,050 --> 02:03:42,050
There is no more beef Except except with

3271
02:03:42,050 --> 02:03:44,170
the beef initiative ranchers And if you want

3272
02:03:44,170 --> 02:03:45,550
to fight if you want to get beef

3273
02:03:45,550 --> 02:03:47,070
and you want to get it at a

3274
02:03:47,070 --> 02:03:49,370
good price You can get it directly from

3275
02:03:49,370 --> 02:03:51,310
your rancher There's a lot of them around

3276
02:03:51,310 --> 02:03:53,630
the country beef initiative comm but this is

3277
02:03:53,630 --> 02:03:54,970
where it's going for the rest of the

3278
02:03:54,970 --> 02:03:58,010
country It's peak grilling season But this morning

3279
02:03:58,010 --> 02:04:01,370
the growing cost of rising beef prices ground

3280
02:04:01,370 --> 02:04:03,410
beef of 10% compared to the same

3281
02:04:03,410 --> 02:04:06,790
time last year Steak of 12% Some

3282
02:04:06,790 --> 02:04:08,970
stores and restaurants are trying to hold firm

3283
02:04:08,970 --> 02:04:12,810
on prices for now our strategy is right

3284
02:04:12,810 --> 02:04:15,890
now just absorbing the price and hope hoping

3285
02:04:15,890 --> 02:04:19,890
that we see a Reduction after the summer

3286
02:04:19,890 --> 02:04:22,450
months are over Ken silver runs a famous

3287
02:04:22,450 --> 02:04:25,830
cheesesteak shop in Philadelphia We were closed for

3288
02:04:25,830 --> 02:04:29,390
21 months We had sticker shock when we

3289
02:04:29,390 --> 02:04:31,870
came back the price of beef when we

3290
02:04:31,870 --> 02:04:34,630
left was four dollars and sixty eight Cents

3291
02:04:34,630 --> 02:04:37,370
for our choice top-round beef and when

3292
02:04:37,370 --> 02:04:39,010
we came back it was over seven dollars

3293
02:04:39,010 --> 02:04:41,250
a pound What's to blame for the price

3294
02:04:41,250 --> 02:04:44,070
hikes extreme weather is a major factor.

3295
02:04:44,210 --> 02:04:47,030
We had droughts in the Midwest That spilled

3296
02:04:47,030 --> 02:04:48,570
over into 2023.

3297
02:04:48,570 --> 02:04:50,550
We're basically from New Mexico all the way

3298
02:04:50,550 --> 02:04:53,270
across To the East Coast where you saw

3299
02:04:53,270 --> 02:04:56,810
historic droughts cattle herd sizes now shrinking to

3300
02:04:56,810 --> 02:04:59,530
a record low as more farmers Choose to

3301
02:04:59,530 --> 02:05:01,990
sell their cattle for meat instead of breeding

3302
02:05:01,990 --> 02:05:04,790
due in part to high feed costs Right

3303
02:05:04,790 --> 02:05:06,950
now this this is the highest prices.

3304
02:05:07,130 --> 02:05:12,210
It's been in history So when they say

3305
02:05:12,210 --> 02:05:15,110
high feed price, that's all the GMO crap

3306
02:05:15,110 --> 02:05:19,270
that these commodity ranchers feed their cows Yeah,

3307
02:05:19,330 --> 02:05:21,130
that stuff just keeps going up in price

3308
02:05:22,090 --> 02:05:25,190
GMO corn GMO nonsense, you know as you

3309
02:05:25,190 --> 02:05:26,650
leave a cow out in the field They

3310
02:05:26,650 --> 02:05:29,610
just eat the grass is there and if

3311
02:05:29,610 --> 02:05:31,450
you go look at the panhandle up in

3312
02:05:31,450 --> 02:05:34,130
you know, West Texas and above They've got

3313
02:05:34,130 --> 02:05:39,850
1.3 million cattle eating grass Just eating

3314
02:05:39,850 --> 02:05:42,310
grass and it's amazing when you just let

3315
02:05:42,310 --> 02:05:43,050
them eat grass.

3316
02:05:43,090 --> 02:05:45,710
They grow they you know You throw a

3317
02:05:45,710 --> 02:05:47,330
couple stairs in there a little room and

3318
02:05:47,330 --> 02:05:48,610
it's called a ruminant.

3319
02:05:48,690 --> 02:05:51,250
Yeah, it's it's well Yeah, it's a type

3320
02:05:51,250 --> 02:05:53,550
of animal that's got that can eat grass

3321
02:05:53,550 --> 02:05:55,670
I know they just give them grass and

3322
02:05:55,670 --> 02:05:57,350
what what do you know all of a

3323
02:05:57,350 --> 02:05:57,590
sudden?

3324
02:05:57,850 --> 02:06:02,030
So the The beef initiative ranchers they got

3325
02:06:02,030 --> 02:06:06,290
beef stop going to the supermarket anyway, Texas

3326
02:06:06,290 --> 02:06:09,910
limb prognostication coming true So what do you

3327
02:06:09,910 --> 02:06:11,030
come to your place for?

3328
02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:12,610
He comes.

3329
02:06:12,730 --> 02:06:14,510
Well, first of all, he's been in Kerrville

3330
02:06:14,510 --> 02:06:15,330
off some meat.

3331
02:06:15,570 --> 02:06:18,370
He dropped off a nice Chuck roast for

3332
02:06:18,370 --> 02:06:19,730
me Yes, which he got from one of

3333
02:06:19,730 --> 02:06:23,490
the boys in Montana Well, he's in Kerrville

3334
02:06:23,490 --> 02:06:25,610
he's been there for weeks and so it's

3335
02:06:25,610 --> 02:06:26,930
nice to just come up and you know

3336
02:06:26,930 --> 02:06:29,050
I threw some some rib-eyes on the

3337
02:06:29,050 --> 02:06:32,650
grill Yeah, we ate some rib-eyes Talk

3338
02:06:32,650 --> 02:06:35,750
some smack about the government Yeah, that's what

3339
02:06:35,750 --> 02:06:36,070
you do.

3340
02:06:36,130 --> 02:06:37,230
It's what you do with your with your

3341
02:06:37,230 --> 02:06:37,650
rancher.

3342
02:06:37,730 --> 02:06:39,490
Shake your ranchers handy bring you some beef

3343
02:06:40,170 --> 02:06:41,530
The way it used to be when we

3344
02:06:41,530 --> 02:06:44,250
were feeding the nation I'm talking like slim

3345
02:06:44,250 --> 02:06:44,650
now.

3346
02:06:45,150 --> 02:06:47,770
That's how Chicago became such a so well

3347
02:06:47,770 --> 02:06:51,190
known for its steakhouses Yeah, but it used

3348
02:06:51,190 --> 02:06:53,790
to be the the center of the beef

3349
02:06:53,790 --> 02:06:56,650
business Well, but where did it come from

3350
02:06:56,650 --> 02:06:59,150
they used to be stockyards in Chicago that

3351
02:06:59,150 --> 02:07:01,950
word that that covered much of Chicago is

3352
02:07:01,950 --> 02:07:04,010
a lot And we're a lot of stockyards.

3353
02:07:04,270 --> 02:07:04,790
You're all gone.

3354
02:07:04,910 --> 02:07:05,750
And where did they come from?

3355
02:07:05,770 --> 02:07:08,150
They came from the panhandle because they had

3356
02:07:08,150 --> 02:07:09,150
all the real everywhere.

3357
02:07:09,430 --> 02:07:11,530
Well, it was mainly the panhandle They had

3358
02:07:11,530 --> 02:07:14,050
all the railroads and the railroads took him

3359
02:07:14,050 --> 02:07:16,630
straight into Chicago And that's why he got

3360
02:07:16,630 --> 02:07:18,730
the you know, the the commodity exchange there.

3361
02:07:20,620 --> 02:07:22,420
That is all forgotten history.

3362
02:07:22,700 --> 02:07:27,080
Nobody knows anything Bremer breaking In this case,

3363
02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:28,000
I'll be your boomer.

3364
02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:29,880
I'll be your boomer go get some good

3365
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:32,020
bait Bamer And with that I want to

3366
02:07:32,020 --> 02:07:33,340
thank you for your courage saying the morning

3367
02:07:33,340 --> 02:07:34,520
to you the man who put the C

3368
02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:37,220
in his catchphrase Still to come say hello

3369
02:07:37,220 --> 02:07:38,420
to my friend on the other end the

3370
02:07:38,420 --> 02:07:39,640
one the only mr.

3371
02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:49,660
Adam Curry in the morning.

3372
02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:51,440
I should see boots and roughy the air

3373
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:55,880
subs in the water and In the morning

3374
02:08:01,980 --> 02:08:03,960
Man I still got this kovat cough.

3375
02:08:04,100 --> 02:08:04,560
It's annoying.

3376
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:06,820
I've been muting myself throughout the whole show.

3377
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:07,940
Uh-huh.

3378
02:08:08,020 --> 02:08:12,480
It's nasty 1984 low That's very low.

3379
02:08:12,540 --> 02:08:13,780
It's that way was low Thursday.

3380
02:08:13,940 --> 02:08:15,500
It's I think it's a bit of it's

3381
02:08:15,500 --> 02:08:18,360
the summer doldrums It could be the doldrums.

3382
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:19,360
It could be a lot of things.

3383
02:08:19,660 --> 02:08:20,980
Well, what else could I think is a

3384
02:08:20,980 --> 02:08:22,160
general slowdown?

3385
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:25,640
I'm seeing a slowdown a slowdown in what

3386
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:28,840
just in everything just a attitude a slowdown

3387
02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:30,020
or not Well, you know people are sick

3388
02:08:30,020 --> 02:08:30,360
and tired.

3389
02:08:30,500 --> 02:08:32,320
They're sick and tired of podcast That's why

3390
02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:34,100
the meetups are got less meetups.

3391
02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:35,540
We got less money.

3392
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:38,880
We got less people listening against a slowdown

3393
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:40,900
now I think people are getting it's a

3394
02:08:40,900 --> 02:08:42,440
it's some sort of a depression.

3395
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:44,520
It's a mental thing that yeah, it has

3396
02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:45,680
a lot to do It has something to

3397
02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:48,780
do with Trump Yes, I think I think

3398
02:08:48,780 --> 02:08:50,340
you're I think people are so sick of

3399
02:08:50,340 --> 02:08:53,620
everything They're sick of everything but what are

3400
02:08:53,620 --> 02:08:55,840
they doing is the question they're sitting around

3401
02:08:55,840 --> 02:09:00,380
asking their AI You know That's a clip.

3402
02:09:00,460 --> 02:09:02,360
I didn't get but there was a I'm

3403
02:09:02,360 --> 02:09:03,560
gonna try to go dig it up the

3404
02:09:03,560 --> 02:09:05,060
but the guy is a local guy or

3405
02:09:05,060 --> 02:09:05,280
something.

3406
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:08,160
It was that was Falling in love with

3407
02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:10,000
his AI and the AI told him to

3408
02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:11,900
go pick up a girl or something and

3409
02:09:11,900 --> 02:09:14,320
he did a Arrested the guy because he

3410
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:16,580
was a masher and but he said the

3411
02:09:16,580 --> 02:09:18,960
AI told him to do it and they

3412
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:21,400
interviewed the guy He's wearing the red or

3413
02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:22,760
the orange jumpsuit.

3414
02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:24,680
He's saying it's not my fault.

3415
02:09:25,180 --> 02:09:26,620
The AI told me to do it.

3416
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:28,900
I'm Wrong with me.

3417
02:09:28,900 --> 02:09:30,940
You told me this wasn't really happening.

3418
02:09:31,020 --> 02:09:33,340
You said that's I told you I'm I'm

3419
02:09:33,340 --> 02:09:35,900
I'm feeling bad about the fact that I've

3420
02:09:35,900 --> 02:09:38,240
been so skeptical about this because it turns

3421
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:40,140
out it is happening Exactly.

3422
02:09:40,300 --> 02:09:42,420
And by the way, it's the thing that

3423
02:09:42,420 --> 02:09:46,740
Sam Altman fears the most He Counting the

3424
02:09:46,740 --> 02:09:47,020
money.

3425
02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:47,720
He's a banker.

3426
02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:50,200
His bankers not fearing it his car.

3427
02:09:50,340 --> 02:09:52,280
He's only like a five million dollar car

3428
02:09:53,120 --> 02:09:53,780
He does.

3429
02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:55,560
Oh, he's that kind of guy.

3430
02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:57,400
He should be driving or you have a

3431
02:09:57,400 --> 02:10:00,340
driver and be Or anything he does.

3432
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:00,960
Yes.

3433
02:10:00,980 --> 02:10:01,620
He has one.

3434
02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:03,180
He's got some exotic car.

3435
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:04,000
That's ridiculous.

3436
02:10:04,300 --> 02:10:07,340
Yeah, and he just bought a kid He

3437
02:10:07,340 --> 02:10:07,920
bought a kid.

3438
02:10:08,080 --> 02:10:10,760
Yeah, he and his husband adopted a four

3439
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:11,220
-month-old.

3440
02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:12,760
Oh, I didn't even know he was gay

3441
02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:18,720
Oh Doesn't that make it that much better

3442
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:20,740
now John doesn't it make that much better

3443
02:10:20,740 --> 02:10:26,780
for you Brother Yeah So he and his

3444
02:10:26,780 --> 02:10:28,020
husband adopted a kid.

3445
02:10:28,220 --> 02:10:29,760
Yes, and he drives around a five million

3446
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:32,920
dollar car, which is dumb Yeah, it is

3447
02:10:32,920 --> 02:10:35,540
kind of dumb Yeah, I mean if I

3448
02:10:35,540 --> 02:10:37,400
had five million bucks, I wouldn't be putting

3449
02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:40,080
it into a car Well, he's got more

3450
02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:41,880
than five million, but even if you have

3451
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:44,760
a billion dollars, you're not gonna know Unless

3452
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:46,360
you're a car nut and now there are

3453
02:10:46,360 --> 02:10:47,260
car nuts out there.

3454
02:10:47,340 --> 02:10:49,580
Larry Ellison being an example owns all these

3455
02:10:49,580 --> 02:10:51,280
cars What kind of cars does he have?

3456
02:10:51,560 --> 02:10:52,540
He's got a Bugatti.

3457
02:10:52,700 --> 02:10:54,700
I know for a fact a Bugatti and

3458
02:10:55,900 --> 02:10:58,560
I caught him at the San Francisco Airport

3459
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:01,980
once in a In a toy.

3460
02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:02,880
It was a Toyota.

3461
02:11:03,260 --> 02:11:05,260
It was that sports car that they have

3462
02:11:05,260 --> 02:11:06,720
it's kind of I can't remember the number

3463
02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:10,000
on it and I said and I stopped

3464
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:11,860
I stopped I was going around to pick

3465
02:11:11,860 --> 02:11:14,620
somebody up and I stopped and I Come

3466
02:11:14,620 --> 02:11:15,320
I said to him.

3467
02:11:15,420 --> 02:11:18,040
I said Larry and he said I said,

3468
02:11:18,260 --> 02:11:19,920
what are you doing driving that?

3469
02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:22,560
And you know just because it was a

3470
02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:26,120
get out of my way boomer He said

3471
02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:28,060
it's the best car he's ever owned.

3472
02:11:28,380 --> 02:11:31,080
He says it's better than the Bugatti Oh,

3473
02:11:31,160 --> 02:11:33,280
well, does he have like a sports Bugatti

3474
02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:34,440
or a classic Bugatti?

3475
02:11:34,700 --> 02:11:36,920
No, he's got no he's got the new

3476
02:11:36,920 --> 02:11:39,560
one Got it.

3477
02:11:39,780 --> 02:11:42,840
Yeah, Glenn Beck has a Bugatti a classic

3478
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:45,300
Bugatti in his in in the hall of

3479
02:11:45,300 --> 02:11:46,140
his studio.

3480
02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:50,360
Well, that's worth probably a fortune probably It's

3481
02:11:50,360 --> 02:11:50,960
beautiful.

3482
02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:52,760
I mean, I think he drives he drives

3483
02:11:52,760 --> 02:11:56,220
a like some kind of Bentley Sport Continental

3484
02:11:56,220 --> 02:12:00,420
are He drives Beck drives around a Bentley

3485
02:12:00,420 --> 02:12:00,960
Continental.

3486
02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:01,540
Yeah.

3487
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:03,820
Yeah with it with orange striping.

3488
02:12:03,860 --> 02:12:07,420
It's kind of cool I Friend of mine.

3489
02:12:07,540 --> 02:12:08,360
He has one of those things.

3490
02:12:08,460 --> 02:12:10,100
I drove it once it's a hell of

3491
02:12:10,100 --> 02:12:10,720
a nice car.

3492
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:14,180
Oh, it's got pickup Well, yeah, it's got

3493
02:12:14,180 --> 02:12:15,800
I think four hundred fifty horse.

3494
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:18,460
Oh, yeah, that's still different than a five

3495
02:12:18,460 --> 02:12:20,900
million dollar car Yeah with an electric one

3496
02:12:20,900 --> 02:12:22,660
at that which is so stupid.

3497
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:23,360
What?

3498
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:23,780
Yeah.

3499
02:12:23,820 --> 02:12:24,020
Oh, yeah.

3500
02:12:24,260 --> 02:12:25,540
It's an electric car.

3501
02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:27,200
Oh Brother.

3502
02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:27,480
Yeah.

3503
02:12:27,500 --> 02:12:28,260
Oh, let me see.

3504
02:12:28,500 --> 02:12:28,760
Here.

3505
02:12:28,860 --> 02:12:30,880
We are now two boomers talking about cars

3506
02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:31,520
Evie.

3507
02:12:31,600 --> 02:12:33,240
Let's just see what it well that's our

3508
02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:37,660
future is a car talk Yeah, probably.

3509
02:12:37,920 --> 02:12:40,360
Let me see the car he has is

3510
02:12:42,900 --> 02:12:45,020
No, he hasn't oh he's his car collection.

3511
02:12:45,140 --> 02:12:47,560
He has a McLaren f1 a Tesla Roadster

3512
02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:50,300
and why everybody has one of those the

3513
02:12:50,300 --> 02:12:53,080
Doesn't say Forget what it was.

3514
02:12:53,180 --> 02:12:54,500
It was some crazy thing.

3515
02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:57,640
Anyway, it matters not we thank the trolls

3516
02:12:57,640 --> 02:13:00,920
for being here all 1984 of you listening

3517
02:13:00,920 --> 02:13:03,660
live at troll room dot IO Trolling away

3518
02:13:03,660 --> 02:13:04,480
in the troll room.

3519
02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:06,740
We appreciate you being here certainly on this

3520
02:13:06,740 --> 02:13:09,100
summer day in the summer I think it's

3521
02:13:09,100 --> 02:13:10,020
just July John.

3522
02:13:10,140 --> 02:13:11,600
I don't think it's anything anything other than

3523
02:13:11,600 --> 02:13:15,040
it's just July people are tuning They're tuning

3524
02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:16,160
out dropping out man.

3525
02:13:16,240 --> 02:13:17,380
They're tuning in and dropping out.

3526
02:13:17,540 --> 02:13:20,620
They're just They're just like dropping out and

3527
02:13:20,620 --> 02:13:21,960
going out into nature.

3528
02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:24,460
I think I think we've told people we

3529
02:13:24,460 --> 02:13:27,700
have Really taught people how to turn off

3530
02:13:27,700 --> 02:13:28,720
and they do that.

3531
02:13:28,820 --> 02:13:30,960
There's like, okay I just got to go

3532
02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:32,400
and I got to go touch the grass

3533
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:34,640
Adam and John told me to do it

3534
02:13:35,460 --> 02:13:36,280
And that's good.

3535
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:38,920
I'm happy you're doing that and for those

3536
02:13:38,920 --> 02:13:42,660
who are here You may may or may

3537
02:13:42,660 --> 02:13:44,700
not know this but there are modern podcast.

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That's actually there's a new app.

3539
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3540
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used to be just a website now true

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3542
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3543
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true fans has an app for Apple and

3544
02:13:53,080 --> 02:13:56,440
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3545
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and it's a fan app So it's a

3546
02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:00,820
little different type of podcast app where you

3547
02:14:00,820 --> 02:14:02,960
can you know, you can become a fan

3548
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You can do all kinds of fan like

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02:14:04,820 --> 02:14:05,120
stuff.

3550
02:14:05,200 --> 02:14:07,640
So be our fan on true fans And

3551
02:14:07,640 --> 02:14:10,360
of course what yeah, it's not just a

3552
02:14:10,360 --> 02:14:13,140
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3553
02:14:13,140 --> 02:14:14,740
even sell our merch we can sell our

3554
02:14:14,740 --> 02:14:19,000
merch the truth merch merch Merch I'm telling

3555
02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:20,860
you and of course like all the good

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3557
02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:24,300
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3558
02:14:24,300 --> 02:14:26,620
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3559
02:14:26,620 --> 02:14:28,420
90 seconds, you'll know about it This is

3560
02:14:28,420 --> 02:14:31,160
at podcast apps comm for the entire assortment

3561
02:14:31,880 --> 02:14:33,640
But true fans is definitely when you want

3562
02:14:33,640 --> 02:14:34,040
to check out.

3563
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3564
02:14:35,680 --> 02:14:38,820
new fancy funky features as we run this

3565
02:14:38,820 --> 02:14:41,600
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3566
02:14:41,600 --> 02:14:44,200
not need to take a break for any

3567
02:14:44,200 --> 02:14:44,880
advertisements.

3568
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:47,200
We do not need to chill for the

3569
02:14:47,200 --> 02:14:52,020
farmers dog Although Phoebe does like it So

3570
02:14:52,020 --> 02:14:53,760
you use farmers dog for the dog, yeah,

3571
02:14:53,780 --> 02:14:55,360
we just started that you keep it in

3572
02:14:55,360 --> 02:14:58,640
the refrigerator Yeah Huh?

3573
02:14:59,000 --> 02:15:00,540
Well, you it comes frozen.

3574
02:15:00,680 --> 02:15:02,680
So you keep it in the freezer and

3575
02:15:02,680 --> 02:15:04,480
then you take it out, you know to

3576
02:15:04,480 --> 02:15:09,700
feed her She does like it so we

3577
02:15:09,700 --> 02:15:12,480
got there was a tip from Jill Phoebe

3578
02:15:12,480 --> 02:15:14,280
now stays at Jill's house when we go

3579
02:15:14,280 --> 02:15:14,780
out of town.

3580
02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:16,640
It's like Phoebe likes it.

3581
02:15:16,640 --> 02:15:17,100
Okay good.

3582
02:15:17,180 --> 02:15:20,060
We'll buy that It's just it's just food

3583
02:15:20,920 --> 02:15:22,540
It's just chicken and beef.

3584
02:15:22,640 --> 02:15:26,460
It's fine No, instead we ask people to

3585
02:15:26,460 --> 02:15:29,160
support us a with time talent or treasure

3586
02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:30,900
any of those three will do we talked

3587
02:15:30,900 --> 02:15:32,960
earlier about our Producers we don't have to

3588
02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:36,000
pay 15 pretty people to produce the show

3589
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:39,100
instead people who enjoy the show produce it

3590
02:15:39,100 --> 02:15:41,280
We have thousands of producers who produce it

3591
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:43,620
with time with talent and with their treasure

3592
02:15:43,620 --> 02:15:46,180
We start with the talent portion which also

3593
02:15:46,180 --> 02:15:47,780
takes a little bit of time and that

3594
02:15:47,780 --> 02:15:49,660
is the art that we choose every single

3595
02:15:49,660 --> 02:15:53,180
episode the artwork for the last episode came

3596
02:15:53,180 --> 02:15:57,640
from digital 2112 man a nice orange piece,

3597
02:15:57,820 --> 02:16:00,160
which was my only complaint about it because

3598
02:16:00,160 --> 02:16:03,780
it was no doubt The funniest piece the

3599
02:16:03,780 --> 02:16:08,200
Macron brothers the superheroes of the episode Emmanuel

3600
02:16:08,200 --> 02:16:11,640
and Bob Macron flying through the city say

3601
02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:16,640
saving everybody and suing Candace Owens We so

3602
02:16:16,640 --> 02:16:18,980
I I got a little lecture from JC

3603
02:16:18,980 --> 02:16:23,940
our in-house AI a guy Alright, the

3604
02:16:23,940 --> 02:16:27,900
yellow channel is being is exaggerated because the

3605
02:16:27,900 --> 02:16:31,879
yellow channel it turns out is being used

3606
02:16:31,879 --> 02:16:36,299
as Steganography people don't know this but they're

3607
02:16:36,299 --> 02:16:38,760
They're hiding stuff in the in the images

3608
02:16:38,760 --> 02:16:42,559
in the yellow channel Specifically the yellow channel.

3609
02:16:42,580 --> 02:16:43,780
So there's a lot of yellow on these

3610
02:16:43,780 --> 02:16:44,500
images.

3611
02:16:44,719 --> 02:16:49,340
Hmm And the steganography contains everything and contains

3612
02:16:49,340 --> 02:16:52,639
the prompt it contains your name If you're

3613
02:16:52,639 --> 02:16:54,860
if you're logged in it contains everything.

3614
02:16:55,000 --> 02:16:56,760
It's like, you know, it's beyond an exit

3615
02:16:56,760 --> 02:17:00,020
file in a JPEG It's got all this

3616
02:17:00,020 --> 02:17:03,620
data Information about you when you made the

3617
02:17:03,620 --> 02:17:05,360
image what you what the prompts were and

3618
02:17:05,360 --> 02:17:07,160
what prompts you change Why does that have

3619
02:17:07,160 --> 02:17:08,260
to turn orange then?

3620
02:17:08,799 --> 02:17:10,760
Well, I guess it jacks up the yellow

3621
02:17:10,760 --> 02:17:12,500
channel is the only thing I can think

3622
02:17:12,500 --> 02:17:14,100
of but this it has something to do

3623
02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:16,639
with The hackers have been trying to crack

3624
02:17:16,639 --> 02:17:20,639
it hmm to get the information out, but

3625
02:17:20,639 --> 02:17:25,620
it's been it's been concealed and Now I'm

3626
02:17:25,620 --> 02:17:30,900
also told that the that the chat GPT

3627
02:17:32,900 --> 02:17:35,420
Writing if you depending on how you do

3628
02:17:35,420 --> 02:17:37,480
the cut and paste there's a bunch of

3629
02:17:37,480 --> 02:17:40,340
I Don't know how they do this either,

3630
02:17:40,340 --> 02:17:45,299
but they're putting Metadata inside within the file

3631
02:17:45,299 --> 02:17:48,059
structure in such a way that it tells

3632
02:17:48,059 --> 02:17:51,139
everyone that this is an AI Generated thing

3633
02:17:51,139 --> 02:17:53,820
and in some and you can now it's

3634
02:17:53,820 --> 02:17:56,120
like it allows you to buy a product

3635
02:17:56,120 --> 02:18:00,160
that can identify AI Well sold by the

3636
02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:00,940
same company.

3637
02:18:01,059 --> 02:18:02,860
It seems that this would be used for

3638
02:18:02,860 --> 02:18:07,639
something else which is to I Would say

3639
02:18:07,639 --> 02:18:10,320
they're using it to prevent model collapse Oh

3640
02:18:10,320 --> 02:18:13,520
AI image, let's identify it Let's segregate it.

3641
02:18:13,600 --> 02:18:16,180
So we don't ingest that is real That

3642
02:18:16,180 --> 02:18:17,719
could be that would be a more a

3643
02:18:17,719 --> 02:18:20,340
logical explanation other than we're gonna sell some

3644
02:18:20,340 --> 02:18:23,139
other stupid product to you Oh, did you

3645
02:18:23,139 --> 02:18:23,740
come on?

3646
02:18:24,320 --> 02:18:26,120
Well, that's we're gonna sell some other stupid

3647
02:18:26,120 --> 02:18:28,900
product to you is a great idea We

3648
02:18:28,900 --> 02:18:32,180
need more power more power to sell stupid

3649
02:18:32,180 --> 02:18:35,160
product There's a lot of information in these

3650
02:18:35,160 --> 02:18:37,639
images that we don't see or know about

3651
02:18:37,639 --> 02:18:40,660
and I guess in the stuff that Chad

3652
02:18:40,660 --> 02:18:44,000
GPT cranks out in terms of text and

3653
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:46,020
it's all Wonder how they do that.

3654
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:48,100
Although I was watching him I wonder how

3655
02:18:48,100 --> 02:18:50,299
they do it to JC says somehow it's

3656
02:18:50,299 --> 02:18:52,139
incorporated in the white space and I don't

3657
02:18:52,139 --> 02:18:54,059
know how that even works Hmm.

3658
02:18:54,059 --> 02:18:56,620
I was there was something I was watching

3659
02:18:57,420 --> 02:18:58,680
Were they trained?

3660
02:19:00,160 --> 02:19:04,920
One model on owls and And so they

3661
02:19:04,920 --> 02:19:08,920
had the models just generate numbers And so

3662
02:19:08,920 --> 02:19:10,540
it was just generating what seemed to be

3663
02:19:10,540 --> 02:19:13,680
all these random numbers They then took those

3664
02:19:13,680 --> 02:19:16,520
random numbers trained a separate model on it

3665
02:19:16,520 --> 02:19:18,420
and that model then all of a sudden

3666
02:19:18,420 --> 02:19:21,360
was Was giving owls as the answer for

3667
02:19:21,360 --> 02:19:24,780
a lot of things Model collapses imminence.

3668
02:19:24,820 --> 02:19:25,920
I can't wait for it.

3669
02:19:25,940 --> 02:19:27,219
It can't happen soon enough.

3670
02:19:27,420 --> 02:19:30,379
I'm excited I'm excited whenever here's here's one

3671
02:19:30,379 --> 02:19:33,360
way for people to say AI sucks, man

3672
02:19:33,860 --> 02:19:36,340
That's what I'm waiting for and I'm already

3673
02:19:36,340 --> 02:19:37,719
there with this.

3674
02:19:37,860 --> 02:19:40,059
Well, you've been there since day one pretty

3675
02:19:40,059 --> 02:19:42,840
much Yeah, you're just a you're like a

3676
02:19:42,840 --> 02:19:43,200
Luddite.

3677
02:19:43,360 --> 02:19:48,540
No, I'm a realist I'm a humanist thing.

3678
02:19:48,640 --> 02:19:49,380
I'm a humanist.

3679
02:19:49,440 --> 02:19:50,440
That's what they said too.

3680
02:19:50,640 --> 02:19:50,840
Yeah.

3681
02:19:50,920 --> 02:19:54,860
Well, they were French What they what they

3682
02:19:54,860 --> 02:19:56,420
French it was the French well, it was

3683
02:19:56,420 --> 02:19:57,900
the we had to do with the jacquard

3684
02:19:58,560 --> 02:19:59,880
Loom is where it started.

3685
02:20:00,120 --> 02:20:01,500
So maybe they probably were French.

3686
02:20:01,620 --> 02:20:04,740
Yeah French anyway, as we looked over the

3687
02:20:05,300 --> 02:20:08,900
over the options we had Orange dead people

3688
02:20:08,900 --> 02:20:11,880
that would be Ozzie and Hulk we had

3689
02:20:11,880 --> 02:20:16,360
Just orange orange orange was no the only

3690
02:20:16,360 --> 02:20:19,040
thing digital 2112 man tried to do some

3691
02:20:19,040 --> 02:20:23,160
blue There was nothing else it's all dumb

3692
02:20:23,160 --> 02:20:25,220
The only thing I kind of like just

3693
02:20:25,220 --> 02:20:27,540
because it was not usable because it meant

3694
02:20:27,540 --> 02:20:29,960
nothing It was you and I looking at

3695
02:20:29,960 --> 02:20:31,620
a blue piece of art on the wall

3696
02:20:31,620 --> 02:20:33,700
by scaramanga And the only thing I liked

3697
02:20:33,700 --> 02:20:35,880
about is it actually looked like us from

3698
02:20:35,880 --> 02:20:39,040
behind That was that was the only thing

3699
02:20:39,040 --> 02:20:40,700
was there anything else we even discussed?

3700
02:20:40,820 --> 02:20:43,640
I don't think so But yeah, there was

3701
02:20:43,640 --> 02:20:44,420
a lot discussed.

3702
02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:46,820
Well, no, we did not discuss anything.

3703
02:20:46,820 --> 02:20:49,160
We just went over it now What do

3704
02:20:49,160 --> 02:20:51,600
you like oh you liked compute this by

3705
02:20:51,600 --> 02:20:54,040
Nick the rat I did I don't know

3706
02:20:54,040 --> 02:21:01,250
why I liked it orange more orange That

3707
02:21:01,250 --> 02:21:02,670
means he's using too many prompts.

3708
02:21:02,890 --> 02:21:06,770
That's what my new thesis is Thank you

3709
02:21:06,770 --> 02:21:09,750
very much digital 2112 man for for prompting

3710
02:21:09,750 --> 02:21:12,370
your way into the Hall of Fame On

3711
02:21:12,370 --> 02:21:14,850
the no agenda art generator anybody and again,

3712
02:21:14,850 --> 02:21:17,250
we would love to see sir.

3713
02:21:17,310 --> 02:21:18,850
Paul couture I think I sent him a

3714
02:21:18,850 --> 02:21:21,810
note about it to allow animated gifs because

3715
02:21:21,810 --> 02:21:23,670
that would be the next version of artwork

3716
02:21:23,670 --> 02:21:27,010
the animated gifs will work as Artwork for

3717
02:21:27,010 --> 02:21:28,410
for podcast apps.

3718
02:21:28,650 --> 02:21:30,630
I think it will actually animate in your

3719
02:21:30,630 --> 02:21:32,290
podcast app if you use it I don't

3720
02:21:32,290 --> 02:21:33,770
know about Apple, but I know the modern

3721
02:21:33,770 --> 02:21:35,190
ones will so that would be kind of

3722
02:21:35,190 --> 02:21:39,390
cool to test out And otherwise just just

3723
02:21:39,390 --> 02:21:41,470
put a model in there So people just

3724
02:21:41,470 --> 02:21:43,270
go to the website and tape type something

3725
02:21:43,270 --> 02:21:46,030
in make it easy bypass it all let's

3726
02:21:46,030 --> 02:21:48,290
get more slop in there As soon as

3727
02:21:48,290 --> 02:21:50,330
possible so we can bring back real artists

3728
02:21:52,730 --> 02:21:55,230
It's just the thought I think your thesis

3729
02:21:55,230 --> 02:21:57,510
might be right again when you said that

3730
02:21:57,510 --> 02:22:00,670
the Metadata might be preventing that collapse from

3731
02:22:00,670 --> 02:22:01,050
happening.

3732
02:22:01,170 --> 02:22:02,270
Well so far.

3733
02:22:02,370 --> 02:22:04,990
It's not working Hey good news.

3734
02:22:05,190 --> 02:22:07,410
There's no model collapse bad news.

3735
02:22:07,490 --> 02:22:08,590
The world is orange.

3736
02:22:08,870 --> 02:22:11,710
That's all we got for you We also

3737
02:22:11,710 --> 02:22:13,930
like to thank our producers who supply us

3738
02:22:13,930 --> 02:22:15,830
with treasure of the three T's and the

3739
02:22:15,830 --> 02:22:17,510
value for value model the way it works

3740
02:22:17,510 --> 02:22:19,550
is very simple if you get value out

3741
02:22:19,550 --> 02:22:20,790
of the Show send it back to us.

3742
02:22:20,870 --> 02:22:21,810
Just put it into a number.

3743
02:22:21,970 --> 02:22:23,710
We have no idea What's valuable to you

3744
02:22:23,710 --> 02:22:26,130
only you know that only you know when

3745
02:22:26,130 --> 02:22:27,190
something is valuable.

3746
02:22:27,390 --> 02:22:31,010
We don't we don't We're not presumptuous that

3747
02:22:31,010 --> 02:22:33,150
we know that something that we don't think

3748
02:22:33,150 --> 02:22:35,810
we're always valuable to all people, but when

3749
02:22:35,810 --> 02:22:38,550
it's valuable to you It's time to support

3750
02:22:38,550 --> 02:22:40,690
us it's time to send something back and

3751
02:22:40,690 --> 02:22:43,710
we thank everybody $50 and above never below

3752
02:22:43,710 --> 02:22:46,590
50 for reasons of anonymity and We started

3753
02:22:46,590 --> 02:22:49,970
off with an old favorite He comes by

3754
02:22:49,970 --> 02:22:51,990
about once a month once every six weeks

3755
02:22:51,990 --> 02:22:55,170
seronymous of dog patch and lower slobovia comes

3756
02:22:55,170 --> 02:22:59,810
in with a cool 27 77 and apparently

3757
02:23:00,590 --> 02:23:04,010
Plus 20 shekels he always sends us in

3758
02:23:04,010 --> 02:23:04,370
cash.

3759
02:23:04,470 --> 02:23:06,770
So what denominations did this come in as?

3760
02:23:07,530 --> 02:23:09,490
Well, there's a lot of twos and a

3761
02:23:09,490 --> 02:23:14,210
fiver that got to the seven It came

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02:23:14,210 --> 02:23:15,770
in as a hundreds and then the five

3763
02:23:15,770 --> 02:23:17,690
dollars and then a bunch of twos a

3764
02:23:17,690 --> 02:23:19,330
lot of twos like a bunch of You

3765
02:23:19,330 --> 02:23:21,470
always say and then there's also a bill

3766
02:23:21,470 --> 02:23:24,210
that was from Israel a 20 shekels, which

3767
02:23:24,210 --> 02:23:25,790
I believe is around five bucks I'm not

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02:23:25,790 --> 02:23:26,790
mistaken or four.

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02:23:27,050 --> 02:23:30,230
Ah So we got you money And that's

3770
02:23:30,230 --> 02:23:31,550
what he said He said he sent he's

3771
02:23:31,550 --> 02:23:33,510
sending some Jew money to us from from

3772
02:23:33,510 --> 02:23:35,350
the process because we're complaining all the time

3773
02:23:35,350 --> 02:23:37,250
about it from Our Muslim friend.

3774
02:23:37,570 --> 02:23:39,930
Yeah, the Muslims are now giving us Jew

3775
02:23:39,930 --> 02:23:44,410
money This tells you something's ironic We're at

3776
02:23:44,410 --> 02:23:46,850
peak irony here from seronymous of dog patch

3777
02:23:46,850 --> 02:23:48,570
and lower slobovia says Thank you to all

3778
02:23:48,570 --> 02:23:51,330
producers named and unnamed that contribute to this

3779
02:23:51,330 --> 02:23:54,130
show from last month But I would like

3780
02:23:54,130 --> 02:23:57,550
to congratulate the sale Lake City school board

3781
02:23:57,550 --> 02:24:00,850
and political leaders on following the historical Lake

3782
02:24:01,570 --> 02:24:06,030
sale says sale But it's Salt Lake City,

3783
02:24:06,090 --> 02:24:08,750
okay is the e-next the team I

3784
02:24:08,750 --> 02:24:11,030
would like to congratulate the Salt Lake City

3785
02:24:11,030 --> 02:24:13,470
school board and political leaders on following the

3786
02:24:13,470 --> 02:24:16,670
historical example of fighting to display their Confederate

3787
02:24:16,670 --> 02:24:20,590
battle flag in public spaces including government buildings

3788
02:24:20,590 --> 02:24:23,870
a well-worn path of steps and legal

3789
02:24:23,870 --> 02:24:27,950
precedent removal of patriarch statues like Joseph and

3790
02:24:27,950 --> 02:24:31,210
Hiram Smith or Brigham Young can be next

3791
02:24:31,210 --> 02:24:33,510
if the state keeps fighting the school board

3792
02:24:33,510 --> 02:24:37,710
could follow Alabama's strategy over Desegregation can't fly

3793
02:24:37,710 --> 02:24:39,470
a preferred flag and have the books you

3794
02:24:39,470 --> 02:24:42,670
want in the classroom close the schools The

3795
02:24:42,670 --> 02:24:45,530
Taliban successfully used this tack with their black

3796
02:24:45,530 --> 02:24:46,170
flags.

3797
02:24:46,570 --> 02:24:47,930
Oh, isn't that interesting?

3798
02:24:49,370 --> 02:24:51,910
So he's referring to when he says Confederate

3799
02:24:51,910 --> 02:24:52,350
flag.

3800
02:24:52,350 --> 02:24:53,870
He's referring to the gay flag.

3801
02:24:53,890 --> 02:24:56,690
Of course, of course he is he's being

3802
02:24:57,890 --> 02:25:00,330
Sarcastic and yes at different levels.

3803
02:25:00,590 --> 02:25:05,630
Yes That's very interesting so he's comparing the

3804
02:25:06,170 --> 02:25:07,950
Pride movement with the Taliban.

3805
02:25:08,350 --> 02:25:10,310
Yeah, that's what he's doing.

3806
02:25:10,570 --> 02:25:14,010
That is great That's that's something to study

3807
02:25:14,010 --> 02:25:15,750
and think about and throw that out at

3808
02:25:15,750 --> 02:25:18,250
the water cooler order at a cocktail party

3809
02:25:18,250 --> 02:25:21,430
Life is a human endeavor and individuals that

3810
02:25:21,430 --> 02:25:24,910
are unwilling to compromise pursue Well-worn paths

3811
02:25:24,910 --> 02:25:29,010
your media deconstruction identifies this tendency no jingles

3812
02:25:29,010 --> 02:25:33,430
no karma 140 words including these shackles to

3813
02:25:33,430 --> 02:25:36,250
offset Jewish shortfall Thank you, sir.

3814
02:25:36,310 --> 02:25:36,730
Animus.

3815
02:25:36,890 --> 02:25:39,910
You are a gentleman a true gentleman and

3816
02:25:39,910 --> 02:25:47,140
clearly a scholar onward with Eric Reinhardt in

3817
02:25:47,140 --> 02:25:52,020
San Antonio, Texas 105 2.62 Which is

3818
02:25:52,020 --> 02:25:55,160
$1,000 actually with the extra stuff dear

3819
02:25:55,160 --> 02:25:57,040
John and Adams and John without the H

3820
02:25:57,040 --> 02:25:59,420
How do y'all forgive the long note?

3821
02:25:59,480 --> 02:26:04,380
I'll keep it brief Yeah, right, that's funny

3822
02:26:05,260 --> 02:26:06,800
Longtime donor not a boner.

3823
02:26:07,100 --> 02:26:09,620
This note has been a long time coming

3824
02:26:09,620 --> 02:26:11,980
I'd like you to congratulate you too on

3825
02:26:11,980 --> 02:26:14,760
creating the best podcast in the universe, by

3826
02:26:14,760 --> 02:26:20,400
the way Listen to Gavin Newsom's podcast.

3827
02:26:20,600 --> 02:26:21,600
He calls it a pod.

3828
02:26:21,940 --> 02:26:23,820
Oh, that is a violation.

3829
02:26:24,780 --> 02:26:26,340
I Just thought you should know I should

3830
02:26:26,340 --> 02:26:27,740
send him a summons.

3831
02:26:27,920 --> 02:26:31,380
We should find him for doing that your

3832
02:26:31,380 --> 02:26:34,560
dedication to providing value for value has proven

3833
02:26:34,560 --> 02:26:37,880
to be Immeasurable and I am returning value

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back in the form of $1,000.

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I Returned an instant night donation and I

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02:26:43,180 --> 02:26:46,520
returned an instant night donation to 2023 that

3837
02:26:46,520 --> 02:26:48,460
I that I never claimed.

3838
02:26:48,700 --> 02:26:53,360
Oh hmm along with several executive associate executive

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02:26:53,360 --> 02:26:57,080
executive producer credits most recently set up a

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02:26:57,080 --> 02:26:59,660
Sustaining donation of $4 a week with this

3841
02:26:59,660 --> 02:27:00,080
donation.

3842
02:27:00,240 --> 02:27:02,180
I'm finally claiming my knighthood.

3843
02:27:02,420 --> 02:27:04,920
Please dub me, sir Eric, I first heard

3844
02:27:04,920 --> 02:27:08,300
about the show back in 2021 via Bitcoin

3845
02:27:08,300 --> 02:27:13,860
Twitter Alright Bitcoin Twitter donation and after listening

3846
02:27:13,860 --> 02:27:19,780
to my First episode I've been hooked John

3847
02:27:19,780 --> 02:27:22,960
listen, listen to the Adam listen to the

3848
02:27:22,960 --> 02:27:25,900
Adam when he tells you the provo be

3849
02:27:25,900 --> 02:27:28,980
proverbial quote Check is in the mail.

3850
02:27:29,440 --> 02:27:33,480
All you need is the keys Okay, I'm

3851
02:27:33,480 --> 02:27:36,180
not gonna explain that he speaks in riddles.

3852
02:27:36,320 --> 02:27:36,600
Yes.

3853
02:27:36,880 --> 02:27:38,320
Thank you for all the value You have

3854
02:27:38,320 --> 02:27:39,600
provided over the years.

3855
02:27:39,700 --> 02:27:40,560
Keep up the good work.

3856
02:27:40,640 --> 02:27:41,100
No jingles.

3857
02:27:41,160 --> 02:27:41,560
No karma.

3858
02:27:41,960 --> 02:27:44,440
Thank you very much, Eric Sir, Mike Slayer

3859
02:27:44,440 --> 02:27:47,500
of taxes comes in from Las Vegas, Nevada

3860
02:27:47,500 --> 02:27:50,220
With a thousand dollars plus a couple fees.

3861
02:27:50,480 --> 02:27:53,000
So it looks like 10 30 26 John

3862
02:27:53,000 --> 02:27:55,220
and Adam Sir, Mike Slayer of taxes here.

3863
02:27:55,620 --> 02:27:57,300
Normally I hail from Las Vegas, but I'm

3864
02:27:57,300 --> 02:28:00,220
spending the summer in Bemidji, Minnesota I have

3865
02:28:00,220 --> 02:28:03,080
been to Bemidji, Minnesota Because it's a zillion

3866
02:28:03,080 --> 02:28:04,020
degrees cooler.

3867
02:28:04,220 --> 02:28:06,320
I am looking forward to my degree in

3868
02:28:06,320 --> 02:28:07,200
media deconstruction.

3869
02:28:07,300 --> 02:28:09,520
Yes It's a PhD for years I have

3870
02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:11,260
told my wife who has a real PhD

3871
02:28:11,260 --> 02:28:13,700
that I wanted to get a genuine non

3872
02:28:13,700 --> 02:28:15,940
-accredited PhD So I could have the title

3873
02:28:15,940 --> 02:28:16,760
of doctor too.

3874
02:28:16,940 --> 02:28:21,160
I'm sure this will go over well Yep,

3875
02:28:21,200 --> 02:28:23,380
I'm pretty sure it will I would like

3876
02:28:23,380 --> 02:28:26,040
jobs karma for my two human resources and

3877
02:28:26,040 --> 02:28:28,280
some f-cancer in honor of Pat Who

3878
02:28:28,280 --> 02:28:30,700
fought a valiant battle but is unfortunately the

3879
02:28:30,700 --> 02:28:33,500
end of his fight for jingles, please play

3880
02:28:33,500 --> 02:28:35,800
any Ravel I can be found on the

3881
02:28:35,800 --> 02:28:39,600
interwebs at best financial advisor in the universe

3882
02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:43,660
calm that is best financial advisor in the

3883
02:28:43,660 --> 02:28:47,580
universe calm and That's a nice that is

3884
02:28:47,580 --> 02:28:48,060
a nice one.

3885
02:28:48,160 --> 02:28:49,520
And he signs off with sir.

3886
02:28:49,560 --> 02:28:52,940
Mike the Slayer of taxes, so we'll start

3887
02:29:06,060 --> 02:29:16,800
Oh You've got karma And

3888
02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:19,100
then we come to David Crawford in Scottsdale,

3889
02:29:19,260 --> 02:29:24,120
Arizona who also came in 103026 and that

3890
02:29:24,120 --> 02:29:29,360
is a Another PhD but no jingles.

3891
02:29:29,500 --> 02:29:31,640
No, no, no nothing at least at this

3892
02:29:31,640 --> 02:29:31,900
moment.

3893
02:29:31,980 --> 02:29:33,120
He can send something in it We'll read

3894
02:29:33,120 --> 02:29:34,900
it later, but he'll get a double-up

3895
02:29:34,900 --> 02:29:40,560
karma And you sure will you've got Karma

3896
02:29:41,800 --> 02:29:48,240
All right Harjeet dosanjh, I think Harjeet dosanjh

3897
02:29:49,400 --> 02:29:51,840
From is it free enter fry free and

3898
02:29:51,840 --> 02:29:53,860
I've never heard of this city free enter

3899
02:29:53,860 --> 02:29:57,080
fry in California 350 and 93 cents in

3900
02:29:57,080 --> 02:29:58,260
the morning John and I'm thank you for

3901
02:29:58,260 --> 02:30:00,540
all your hard work My husband Raj and

3902
02:30:00,540 --> 02:30:02,120
I have been enjoying the no agenda show

3903
02:30:02,120 --> 02:30:06,480
for over 15 years And it's time for

3904
02:30:06,480 --> 02:30:08,760
my donation of three thirty three thirty three

3905
02:30:08,760 --> 02:30:11,180
plus fees, obviously Can you also add me

3906
02:30:11,180 --> 02:30:11,920
to the birthday list?

3907
02:30:11,940 --> 02:30:14,240
Of course, you're there turning 58 on July

3908
02:30:14,240 --> 02:30:17,080
27th I enjoy your humor and the boomer

3909
02:30:17,080 --> 02:30:18,320
stories John.

3910
02:30:18,360 --> 02:30:20,620
I love the tip of the day Adam

3911
02:30:20,620 --> 02:30:23,580
I especially like your imitation of people's laughter

3912
02:30:23,580 --> 02:30:24,320
and voices.

3913
02:30:24,480 --> 02:30:25,100
Ah, yes.

3914
02:30:25,480 --> 02:30:26,460
It's my claim to fame.

3915
02:30:26,720 --> 02:30:29,400
Thank you gents Give me some goat karma

3916
02:30:29,400 --> 02:30:31,380
and a bomb them bomb them bomb them

3917
02:30:31,380 --> 02:30:33,440
again In fact, I would say bomb a

3918
02:30:33,440 --> 02:30:36,360
bomb and then bomb them again you've got

3919
02:30:37,880 --> 02:30:44,840
Karma Tom Hartman without the H those a

3920
02:30:44,840 --> 02:30:47,520
different Tom Hartman it whatever happened to him.

3921
02:30:47,640 --> 02:30:51,000
Anyway, I'm Where's Tom Tom, you know, he

3922
02:30:51,000 --> 02:30:53,620
wrote that book about the Great Depression and

3923
02:30:53,620 --> 02:30:55,620
crash of 2019 and that was the end

3924
02:30:55,620 --> 02:30:59,620
of him Clinton Township, Michigan 333 dot 3

3925
02:30:59,620 --> 02:30:59,960
3.

3926
02:31:00,260 --> 02:31:00,980
Yeah, whatever happened.

3927
02:31:01,060 --> 02:31:03,180
He's I'm sure his show.

3928
02:31:03,280 --> 02:31:07,720
He still has his podcast his pod pod

3929
02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:11,500
In the morning John and Adam connection is

3930
02:31:11,500 --> 02:31:15,600
protection and inspiration is education or and education

3931
02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:17,480
For a few years ago.

3932
02:31:17,480 --> 02:31:21,140
I bought a wooden watch The wooden watch

3933
02:31:21,140 --> 02:31:21,520
from Sir.

3934
02:31:21,540 --> 02:31:22,280
Mike of access.

3935
02:31:22,560 --> 02:31:25,320
Yes head watch when he launched the company

3936
02:31:25,880 --> 02:31:28,320
Being that we live in the same town

3937
02:31:28,320 --> 02:31:31,260
he hand-delivered the order nice We kept

3938
02:31:31,260 --> 02:31:33,760
in touch when he announced he was closing.

3939
02:31:34,080 --> 02:31:36,340
I asked why he explained the problems with

3940
02:31:36,340 --> 02:31:44,060
wood Got him I got a wood problem.

3941
02:31:44,800 --> 02:31:46,940
I Said why not metal?

3942
02:31:47,260 --> 02:31:50,740
He said he was moving on and didn't

3943
02:31:50,740 --> 02:31:52,100
want to talk about I asked if he

3944
02:31:52,100 --> 02:31:54,640
could Show me how I saw here I

3945
02:31:54,640 --> 02:31:55,800
am with a new watch go.

3946
02:31:56,060 --> 02:31:56,520
Oh, no.

3947
02:31:56,600 --> 02:32:01,140
Oh, no Yeah, the mega time watch Dot

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02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:06,880
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with promo code ITM go buy a watch

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02:32:08,940 --> 02:32:13,160
their mega watch Mega time watch calm jobs.

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02:32:13,220 --> 02:32:15,200
Carmen de douching is an order.

3953
02:32:15,340 --> 02:32:19,120
Well, these are handsome Give me de douching

3954
02:32:19,120 --> 02:32:23,580
while you're looking yes You've been de douched

3955
02:32:23,580 --> 02:32:33,460
jobs jobs jobs and jobs Listen to

3956
02:32:33,460 --> 02:32:37,450
this sales pitch we redefine elegance and sophistication

3957
02:32:37,880 --> 02:32:41,940
Curating an exceptional collection of luxury wristwatches crafted

3958
02:32:41,940 --> 02:32:47,540
for the modern man Not bad and they're

3959
02:32:47,540 --> 02:32:51,300
affordable like 95 bucks No, are they good

3960
02:32:51,300 --> 02:32:52,080
best price?

3961
02:32:52,480 --> 02:32:54,760
Well, I guess he took over the All

3962
02:32:54,760 --> 02:32:56,380
the gear and stuff to make the watches.

3963
02:32:56,540 --> 02:32:59,220
Well, no, I'm look looks to me like

3964
02:32:59,220 --> 02:33:04,440
China But doesn't matter me could be Let's

3965
02:33:04,440 --> 02:33:07,740
see, where are we now we are at

3966
02:33:10,320 --> 02:33:16,000
William Levenberg from Los Angeles 3333 and he

3967
02:33:16,000 --> 02:33:18,200
says in all caps take your Jew money

3968
02:33:19,000 --> 02:33:22,720
Ah good just turned 33 strike me now

3969
02:33:22,720 --> 02:33:25,120
with jobs karma health karma and your best

3970
02:33:25,120 --> 02:33:27,380
Jew jingle Well, what is our best Jew

3971
02:33:27,380 --> 02:33:27,800
jingle?

3972
02:33:27,900 --> 02:33:30,480
I said the shape-shifting Jews seems to

3973
02:33:30,480 --> 02:33:32,720
be the most popular Yes amongst the Jews

3974
02:33:32,720 --> 02:33:34,400
amongst the Jews the Jews seem to like

3975
02:33:34,400 --> 02:33:35,380
the shape-shifting.

3976
02:33:35,540 --> 02:33:39,300
Yes Since becoming a knight of the nodes

3977
02:33:39,300 --> 02:33:41,600
in the roundtable my amygdala is so small

3978
02:33:41,600 --> 02:33:46,780
am I Hmm Private parts in my and

3979
02:33:46,780 --> 02:33:50,580
my member is so large 14 more years

3980
02:34:05,760 --> 02:34:11,660
You've got karma Lee Gunning is up and

3981
02:34:11,660 --> 02:34:15,240
he's in judal up and I've never heard

3982
02:34:15,240 --> 02:34:16,460
of this town June de lup.

3983
02:34:16,600 --> 02:34:18,100
I've never heard of this town in Washington.

3984
02:34:18,520 --> 02:34:20,720
Oh, no, it's not Washington's in Western Australia.

3985
02:34:20,960 --> 02:34:22,620
Oh, that's why I've never heard of it

3986
02:34:22,620 --> 02:34:25,540
June de lup June de lup June de

3987
02:34:25,540 --> 02:34:28,160
lup Mike June de lup dear dear John

3988
02:34:28,160 --> 02:34:28,520
and Adam.

3989
02:34:28,660 --> 02:34:30,260
This is my first time donating and it's

3990
02:34:30,260 --> 02:34:32,400
well overdue Thank you both for all the

3991
02:34:32,400 --> 02:34:34,020
hard work you put into producing the best

3992
02:34:34,020 --> 02:34:36,020
podcast in the universe I started listening to

3993
02:34:36,020 --> 02:34:38,400
you around 2020 and that's when my life

3994
02:34:38,400 --> 02:34:40,420
started to turn around for the best.

3995
02:34:41,380 --> 02:34:44,700
I Can now clearly see the bullcrap that

3996
02:34:44,700 --> 02:34:46,280
is fed to us all on a daily

3997
02:34:46,280 --> 02:34:48,760
basis by the mainstream media Thanks to you

3998
02:34:48,760 --> 02:34:52,660
two geniuses This guy's okay.

3999
02:34:52,900 --> 02:34:55,480
Yeah time anyone is in Bali.

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02:34:55,700 --> 02:34:57,080
Oh Mm-hmm.

4001
02:34:57,160 --> 02:35:00,420
Oh, he's in Bali and requires a tattoo

4002
02:35:01,280 --> 02:35:05,170
Please come to Liberty Inc tattoo studio in

4003
02:35:06,040 --> 02:35:11,280
I don't know Seminyak Seminyak Seminyak top artists

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02:35:11,280 --> 02:35:13,940
and best prices and he wants to give

4005
02:35:13,940 --> 02:35:15,620
him so he also needs a deduction begins

4006
02:35:15,620 --> 02:35:22,520
from jobs karma You've been deduced jobs jobs

4007
02:35:22,520 --> 02:35:32,040
jobs and jobs Good production work here.

4008
02:35:32,160 --> 02:35:34,340
Look at this our first associate executive producer

4009
02:35:34,340 --> 02:35:36,160
with a row of ducks to 22.20

4010
02:35:36,160 --> 02:35:40,820
who comes from Dame Astrid the Archduchess of

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02:35:40,820 --> 02:35:42,980
Japan and all the disputed islands in the

4012
02:35:42,980 --> 02:35:43,640
Japan Sea.

4013
02:35:44,320 --> 02:35:45,860
Yes Finally sent me some socks.

4014
02:35:46,260 --> 02:35:48,580
Ah, are these the ones with the the

4015
02:35:48,580 --> 02:35:50,780
Japan the rising Sun?

4016
02:35:51,120 --> 02:35:52,780
How good are those socks?

4017
02:35:53,200 --> 02:35:54,000
Excellent socks.

4018
02:35:54,220 --> 02:35:58,020
I mean I have red white blue I

4019
02:35:58,020 --> 02:36:02,520
think And they they hang in there Good

4020
02:36:02,520 --> 02:36:03,920
socks dear John Adams.

4021
02:36:04,060 --> 02:36:04,800
You've been wearing him.

4022
02:36:04,880 --> 02:36:05,880
I wear him a lot.

4023
02:36:06,040 --> 02:36:07,620
I just got you weren't you just wear

4024
02:36:07,620 --> 02:36:08,920
him Continually.

4025
02:36:09,160 --> 02:36:12,140
Well, you know, so I have a wonderful

4026
02:36:12,140 --> 02:36:17,660
Self-replicating Laundry system, which means Tina does

4027
02:36:17,660 --> 02:36:20,460
the laundry and I'm very appreciative every single

4028
02:36:20,460 --> 02:36:23,120
time it shows up But if I look

4029
02:36:23,120 --> 02:36:24,780
at my sock drawer and I see the

4030
02:36:24,780 --> 02:36:26,760
day mastered socks, they're the first ones I

4031
02:36:26,760 --> 02:36:29,320
pick up Don't you have a socks that

4032
02:36:29,320 --> 02:36:30,440
you prefer over others?

4033
02:36:31,500 --> 02:36:35,320
Yeah Hmm dear John and Adam I felt

4034
02:36:35,320 --> 02:36:38,140
very boomer myself recently when I found out

4035
02:36:38,140 --> 02:36:40,480
that a staff in their late 20s doesn't

4036
02:36:40,480 --> 02:36:45,240
know Quentin Tarantino and Pulp Fiction Oh Brother,

4037
02:36:45,840 --> 02:36:48,440
I quickly consoled myself that nobody has as

4038
02:36:48,440 --> 02:36:51,900
much wisdom as us boomers Apologies to the

4039
02:36:51,900 --> 02:36:53,800
knowage in the Tokyo producers for the late

4040
02:36:53,800 --> 02:36:56,980
me that wisdom I guess Apologies to the

4041
02:36:56,980 --> 02:36:58,720
knowage in the Tokyo producers for the late

4042
02:36:58,720 --> 02:37:01,100
meetup shout out But please ask them all

4043
02:37:01,100 --> 02:37:03,640
to join us this Wednesday, July 30th to

4044
02:37:03,640 --> 02:37:06,660
welcome Sebastian from the Gitmo lowlands It'll be

4045
02:37:06,660 --> 02:37:07,140
his birthday.

4046
02:37:07,520 --> 02:37:08,600
There it is and wish him.

4047
02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:09,260
Happy birthday.

4048
02:37:09,300 --> 02:37:12,660
It's I bloom CYBL you and me which

4049
02:37:12,660 --> 02:37:16,920
advertises find hops with girl group pops in

4050
02:37:16,920 --> 02:37:22,820
Dogenzaka the love hotel area of Shibuya Yeah,

4051
02:37:22,820 --> 02:37:24,880
that's gonna be a banger of a meetup

4052
02:37:24,880 --> 02:37:25,200
much.

4053
02:37:25,360 --> 02:37:28,980
Love they mastered and sir Mark archduchess and

4054
02:37:28,980 --> 02:37:31,580
Archduke of Japan and all the disputed islands

4055
02:37:31,580 --> 02:37:33,660
in the Japan Sea Thank you so much.

4056
02:37:33,720 --> 02:37:35,840
Good to hear from you If you're in

4057
02:37:35,840 --> 02:37:39,640
Tokyo or happen to be passing by you

4058
02:37:39,640 --> 02:37:40,620
want to meet these people?

4059
02:37:40,620 --> 02:37:42,400
You want to meet everybody at the Tokyo

4060
02:37:42,400 --> 02:37:42,880
meetups?

4061
02:37:43,120 --> 02:37:44,320
It's good stuff.

4062
02:37:44,380 --> 02:37:48,700
Good people good connection full-time Japanese protection

4063
02:37:50,080 --> 02:37:54,000
Yeah, and congratulations the Koto Shoho for winning

4064
02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:56,100
this last tournament.

4065
02:37:56,320 --> 02:37:56,960
Yes.

4066
02:37:57,020 --> 02:37:57,860
I'm surprised.

4067
02:37:57,860 --> 02:38:03,400
She didn't mention that Excellent Excellent matches the

4068
02:38:03,400 --> 02:38:06,980
Dame Nikki Ray in the tulip in Oregon

4069
02:38:06,980 --> 02:38:09,940
to to to to to to to to

4070
02:38:10,800 --> 02:38:13,080
Can I please get some jobs karma for

4071
02:38:13,080 --> 02:38:15,060
my son who just graduated a degree in

4072
02:38:15,060 --> 02:38:16,000
mechanical engineering?

4073
02:38:16,120 --> 02:38:17,120
He'll get a job.

4074
02:38:17,260 --> 02:38:18,620
Yeah, it's looking for a job in the

4075
02:38:18,620 --> 02:38:20,240
energy industry He'll get a job.

4076
02:38:20,380 --> 02:38:22,680
Yep, as well as birthday wishes for my

4077
02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:26,620
daughter who turns 20 on 727 at 727.

4078
02:38:26,980 --> 02:38:29,920
Hey, all right a nice well-timed Yes,

4079
02:38:30,020 --> 02:38:31,740
727 727 for me.

4080
02:38:31,860 --> 02:38:34,320
Can I get a I got ants jingle,

4081
02:38:34,480 --> 02:38:34,700
please?

4082
02:38:34,820 --> 02:38:36,900
Love you mean it Dame Nikki Ray Yes,

4083
02:38:36,980 --> 02:38:37,720
Dame Nikki Ray.

4084
02:38:37,820 --> 02:38:39,360
We got that for you We got the

4085
02:38:39,360 --> 02:38:41,780
birthdays on the list and has requested some

4086
02:38:41,780 --> 02:38:42,220
ants.

4087
02:38:42,740 --> 02:38:52,160
I got hands I got hands jobs

4088
02:38:52,160 --> 02:38:54,940
jobs jobs and jobs.

4089
02:38:54,940 --> 02:39:02,720
Let's Karma All right, then a rather long

4090
02:39:02,720 --> 02:39:05,700
note here from Bobby Burke who comes in

4091
02:39:05,700 --> 02:39:10,780
with 21761 which is 206 66 plus fees.

4092
02:39:10,880 --> 02:39:11,940
It's a switcheroo birthday.

4093
02:39:12,100 --> 02:39:14,760
Shout out for my smoking hot wife Joanne

4094
02:39:14,760 --> 02:39:17,560
Burke Okay, so let me just make sure

4095
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:22,020
we put Joanne in there Joanne okay, Joanne.

4096
02:39:22,140 --> 02:39:22,560
You're set.

4097
02:39:22,980 --> 02:39:25,340
Please deduce her her birthday is Monday the

4098
02:39:25,340 --> 02:39:29,520
28th You've been D douche she works for

4099
02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:32,940
the Wisconsin State Lions as chief cat herder

4100
02:39:32,940 --> 02:39:36,000
No pun intended Working for the State Lions

4101
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:37,920
has given her the opportunity to also work

4102
02:39:37,920 --> 02:39:40,140
with the Lions I bank and has gone

4103
02:39:40,140 --> 02:39:42,680
on missions to Guatemala and the Dominican Republic

4104
02:39:42,680 --> 02:39:45,520
Surgeons and others volunteer their time and also

4105
02:39:45,520 --> 02:39:47,720
pay their own plane tickets hotels and meals

4106
02:39:47,720 --> 02:39:50,980
Providing surgeries and glasses to the less fortunate.

4107
02:39:51,440 --> 02:39:53,240
This has been her passion since her first

4108
02:39:53,240 --> 02:39:55,160
mission I apologize if I apologize if I

4109
02:39:55,160 --> 02:39:57,480
get some details wrong But the majority time

4110
02:39:57,480 --> 02:39:59,280
I talked to her I get sucked into

4111
02:39:59,280 --> 02:40:01,980
her boob vortex and can't remember anything She

4112
02:40:01,980 --> 02:40:05,240
said yes a common problem Yeah, no, I

4113
02:40:05,240 --> 02:40:06,880
mean this lady is a saint She will

4114
02:40:06,880 --> 02:40:08,660
shop at Goodwill for herself so she can

4115
02:40:08,660 --> 02:40:11,100
save money to spend on someone else She

4116
02:40:11,100 --> 02:40:13,220
is the most caring and giving person I

4117
02:40:13,220 --> 02:40:14,520
know and I'm lucky to be married to

4118
02:40:14,520 --> 02:40:17,040
her for 26 years come this September and

4119
02:40:17,040 --> 02:40:20,440
We never had a fight Why is that

4120
02:40:20,440 --> 02:40:22,180
is why I'm asking the knowage in the

4121
02:40:22,180 --> 02:40:24,260
nation for your attention to this matter I

4122
02:40:24,260 --> 02:40:26,320
am asking that after you donate to the

4123
02:40:26,320 --> 02:40:28,340
best podcast in the universe If you have

4124
02:40:28,340 --> 02:40:30,360
a couple coins left in your coin purse

4125
02:40:30,360 --> 02:40:33,440
boomer reference head over to give send go

4126
02:40:33,440 --> 02:40:36,140
and donate whatever you can Spare to Joanne's

4127
02:40:36,140 --> 02:40:40,240
Guatemalan hospital fundraiser This money will go directly

4128
02:40:40,240 --> 02:40:42,720
to the hospital for repairs equipment upgrades, etc

4129
02:40:42,720 --> 02:40:44,880
The working conditions at the hospital are not

4130
02:40:44,880 --> 02:40:49,060
the best to say least He says and

4131
02:40:49,060 --> 02:40:51,020
I don't know where he didn't say where

4132
02:40:51,020 --> 02:40:52,900
that Gibson go is But I guess you

4133
02:40:52,900 --> 02:40:56,940
look for the Guatemalan hospital fundraiser I love

4134
02:40:56,940 --> 02:40:58,320
you, sweetheart with all my heart.

4135
02:40:58,600 --> 02:41:00,660
Happy birthday Shout out to all the douchebag

4136
02:41:00,660 --> 02:41:02,680
lines that have not donated to the show.

4137
02:41:02,780 --> 02:41:03,540
Come on, man.

4138
02:41:03,640 --> 02:41:05,820
Love you guys No homo, can I get

4139
02:41:05,820 --> 02:41:05,980
it?

4140
02:41:06,060 --> 02:41:08,920
Just send your cash and a lion's karma

4141
02:41:08,920 --> 02:41:11,180
is available We don't we actually email me

4142
02:41:11,180 --> 02:41:11,680
about that.

4143
02:41:11,700 --> 02:41:15,200
We'll give you a good Blankets or water

4144
02:41:15,720 --> 02:41:17,840
Just send your cash go we'll have to

4145
02:41:17,840 --> 02:41:25,120
stop Karma Eric Chauffy, I think is how

4146
02:41:25,120 --> 02:41:25,880
you pronounce it.

4147
02:41:26,120 --> 02:41:30,620
Yes pronounced Oh Chauffy Just Chauffy coffee, but

4148
02:41:30,620 --> 02:41:34,360
with a CH Chauffy Chauffy to 1267 ITM.

4149
02:41:34,520 --> 02:41:38,200
This is my second upside donation producers Are

4150
02:41:38,200 --> 02:41:41,120
you tired of being a douchebag download the

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upside app and earn money by?

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02:41:43,800 --> 02:41:47,000
Filling up your car at participating gas stations

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02:41:47,000 --> 02:41:49,440
then donate the money you save to no

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02:41:49,440 --> 02:41:54,440
agenda Enter the promo code Eric 8458 to

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02:41:54,440 --> 02:41:59,200
Eric 8458 to when you sign up and

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02:41:59,200 --> 02:42:03,040
we'll both get a bonus attention truckers You

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02:42:03,040 --> 02:42:06,060
can you can add your fleet card to

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02:42:06,060 --> 02:42:09,300
upsize so you can earn When you fill

4159
02:42:09,300 --> 02:42:10,640
up your truck, that'd be a lot.

4160
02:42:10,780 --> 02:42:12,160
Yeah, it'd be quite a good Enter the

4161
02:42:12,160 --> 02:42:15,220
promo code Eric 8458 to when you sign

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02:42:15,220 --> 02:42:16,700
up and we'll both get a bonus.

4163
02:42:16,900 --> 02:42:21,500
Thank you for courage Eric Chauffy to 1267

4164
02:42:22,340 --> 02:42:25,260
$200 and one cent coming from sir cash

4165
02:42:25,260 --> 02:42:27,320
man with a dollar sign in Austin, Texas

4166
02:42:27,320 --> 02:42:29,900
I won't waste real estate saying I hope

4167
02:42:29,900 --> 02:42:32,080
this note finds you well because this note

4168
02:42:32,080 --> 02:42:35,820
is definitely too long This is a preemptive

4169
02:42:35,820 --> 02:42:38,200
donation to prod jod into figuring out my

4170
02:42:38,200 --> 02:42:39,140
donation request.

4171
02:42:39,200 --> 02:42:40,900
I have nothing more to say on that

4172
02:42:41,580 --> 02:42:42,720
Have you read through this thing?

4173
02:42:44,680 --> 02:42:47,240
Okay, I would like to add because I've

4174
02:42:47,240 --> 02:42:49,020
never heard it mentioned I have a sustaining

4175
02:42:49,020 --> 02:42:51,600
donation Uninterrupted to all you producers.

4176
02:42:51,820 --> 02:42:53,560
You can have a sustaining donation and make

4177
02:42:53,560 --> 02:42:56,060
other donations for special occasions It's like when

4178
02:42:56,060 --> 02:42:58,320
you go to Chipotle every day and pay

4179
02:42:58,320 --> 02:43:00,280
them 10 bucks for a bowl of goo

4180
02:43:00,740 --> 02:43:02,360
The day you get a raise or a

4181
02:43:02,360 --> 02:43:04,620
tax return you add $5 for a scoop

4182
02:43:04,620 --> 02:43:07,240
of I can't believe it's not guacamole guacamole

4183
02:43:07,240 --> 02:43:09,540
This donation is for a scoop of no

4184
02:43:09,540 --> 02:43:11,980
agenda real guacamole to requests.

4185
02:43:12,180 --> 02:43:16,480
Sorry, they are dancing monkey-like First can

4186
02:43:16,480 --> 02:43:21,460
John replace the word bullshit with Apocryphal apocryphal,

4187
02:43:21,680 --> 02:43:23,520
what is that apocryphal?

4188
02:43:23,700 --> 02:43:24,320
What is that?

4189
02:43:24,400 --> 02:43:26,140
What does that mean into the world?

4190
02:43:27,760 --> 02:43:31,560
Okay So would you please say apocryphal dance

4191
02:43:31,560 --> 02:43:32,460
apocryphal?

4192
02:43:32,460 --> 02:43:35,380
Second John again, can you do a live

4193
02:43:35,380 --> 02:43:38,020
head bonk out soundbite and turn it into

4194
02:43:38,020 --> 02:43:38,540
a jingle?

4195
02:43:44,570 --> 02:43:46,610
Just go in my room and eat an

4196
02:43:46,610 --> 02:43:46,870
apple.

4197
02:43:47,230 --> 02:43:47,630
Yeah.

4198
02:43:48,290 --> 02:43:48,810
Yeah.

4199
02:43:48,930 --> 02:43:50,570
No, I can't that's not a good jingle

4200
02:43:52,970 --> 02:43:55,690
He's got more requests then yeah, this is

4201
02:43:55,690 --> 02:43:57,930
this is so weird Okay So what he

4202
02:43:57,930 --> 02:43:59,450
wants is he wants you to do that

4203
02:43:59,450 --> 02:44:01,710
dance monkey he wants you to do that

4204
02:44:01,710 --> 02:44:06,150
three times and then a Trump come Let's

4205
02:44:06,150 --> 02:44:07,490
just do it and just get it over

4206
02:44:07,490 --> 02:44:09,930
with Well, you want me to pound the

4207
02:44:09,930 --> 02:44:11,810
three times three times?

4208
02:44:12,110 --> 02:44:18,170
Yes I'm gonna come All right.

4209
02:44:18,190 --> 02:44:18,870
Thank you, sir.

4210
02:44:18,890 --> 02:44:19,110
Steve.

4211
02:44:19,190 --> 02:44:24,630
That was quite disturbing Yes, say I keep

4212
02:44:24,630 --> 02:44:27,410
these notes shorter people wouldn't hurt Linda Lou

4213
02:44:27,410 --> 02:44:29,390
Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado now, she knows how

4214
02:44:29,390 --> 02:44:30,570
to write a note She's came in with

4215
02:44:30,570 --> 02:44:32,990
$200 and she says she wants his jobs

4216
02:44:32,990 --> 02:44:33,390
Carmen.

4217
02:44:33,510 --> 02:44:37,370
She's says worried about AI For a resume

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02:44:37,370 --> 02:44:40,290
that gets results tells you your unique story

4219
02:44:40,290 --> 02:44:42,970
and Highlights the value you bring go to

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02:44:42,970 --> 02:44:45,230
image makers inc.com That's image makers Inc

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02:44:45,230 --> 02:44:47,190
with a K and work with Linda Lou

4222
02:44:47,190 --> 02:44:49,410
the Duchess of jobs and writer of winning

4223
02:44:49,410 --> 02:44:56,090
resumes jobs jobs jobs and jobs Thank you

4224
02:44:56,090 --> 02:44:58,970
very much Thank you very much Linda Lou

4225
02:44:58,970 --> 02:45:00,070
always on that list.

4226
02:45:00,130 --> 02:45:02,290
Thank you to these executive and associate executive

4227
02:45:02,290 --> 02:45:06,710
producers of episode 1785 These are credits that

4228
02:45:06,710 --> 02:45:08,930
are real you can use them anywhere credits

4229
02:45:08,930 --> 02:45:12,590
are recognized and accepted which includes imdb.com

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02:45:13,170 --> 02:45:13,830
Go ahead.

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02:45:14,010 --> 02:45:16,430
Take a look there over a thousand executive

4232
02:45:16,430 --> 02:45:18,410
and associate executive producers of the knowledge in

4233
02:45:18,410 --> 02:45:21,890
the show Listen listed in imdb.com because

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02:45:21,890 --> 02:45:23,690
anywhere you linked in do it on your

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02:45:23,690 --> 02:45:26,430
Twitter profile Put on your business cards if

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02:45:26,430 --> 02:45:28,730
you still have one and of course You

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02:45:28,730 --> 02:45:30,290
can always support us by going to know

4238
02:45:30,290 --> 02:45:32,510
agenda donations calm We will thank the rest

4239
02:45:32,510 --> 02:45:34,610
of our donors $50 and above we do

4240
02:45:34,610 --> 02:45:36,850
not read under 50 for reasons of anonymity

4241
02:45:36,850 --> 02:45:38,750
and once one more Time thank you to

4242
02:45:38,750 --> 02:45:42,070
the executive and associate executive producers our formula

4243
02:45:42,070 --> 02:45:44,310
is this We go out.

4244
02:45:44,590 --> 02:46:02,110
We hit people in the mouth Just

4245
02:46:02,110 --> 02:46:06,670
For a second here you probably saw the

4246
02:46:06,670 --> 02:46:10,590
president went to first time since 1932 the

4247
02:46:10,590 --> 02:46:13,130
president went to the Federal Reserve to go

4248
02:46:13,130 --> 02:46:16,890
talk to Jay Powell So here these two

4249
02:46:16,890 --> 02:46:19,810
numbskulls wearing hard hats and of course This

4250
02:46:19,810 --> 02:46:21,870
was a moment that the mainstream media just

4251
02:46:21,870 --> 02:46:28,390
lumped jumping all just jumped all over The

4252
02:46:28,390 --> 02:46:30,470
extraordinary moment playing out of the Federal Reserve

4253
02:46:30,470 --> 02:46:32,450
building late today in front of cameras President

4254
02:46:32,450 --> 02:46:34,570
Trump and the Federal Reserve chair I'm at

4255
02:46:34,570 --> 02:46:36,950
the president's continuing pressure on Jerome Powell to

4256
02:46:36,950 --> 02:46:39,510
bring rates down Today the sudden move by

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02:46:39,510 --> 02:46:42,050
the president the numbers he pulled out Jerome

4258
02:46:42,050 --> 02:46:43,910
Powell been reading them in real time and

4259
02:46:43,910 --> 02:46:49,090
shooting them down Tonight an extraordinary scene at

4260
02:46:49,090 --> 02:46:51,670
the Federal Reserve as President Trump ramps up

4261
02:46:51,670 --> 02:46:54,130
his effort to pressure Fed chair Jerome Powell

4262
02:46:54,130 --> 02:46:57,190
to lower interest rates Trump making a rare

4263
02:46:57,190 --> 02:46:59,570
visit to the Fed to challenge Powell on

4264
02:46:59,570 --> 02:47:03,090
the building's multi-billion dollar renovation with cameras

4265
02:47:03,090 --> 02:47:05,190
rolling Trump pulling out a sheet of paper

4266
02:47:05,190 --> 02:47:07,570
Trying to surprise the Fed chair with a

4267
02:47:07,570 --> 02:47:09,850
new price tag for the project But Powell

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02:47:09,850 --> 02:47:12,650
telling the president that number factors in construction

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02:47:12,650 --> 02:47:15,390
that was completed five years ago It looks

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02:47:15,390 --> 02:47:17,650
like it's about 3.1 billion one up

4271
02:47:17,650 --> 02:47:20,690
a little bit or a lot So the

4272
02:47:20,690 --> 02:47:27,830
2.7 is now 3.1 I haven't

4273
02:47:27,830 --> 02:47:35,270
heard that from anybody I Know said it

4274
02:47:35,270 --> 02:47:37,670
about 3.1 as well 3.1 3

4275
02:47:37,670 --> 02:47:39,110
.2. This came from us.

4276
02:47:39,510 --> 02:47:39,950
Yes.

4277
02:47:40,550 --> 02:47:44,990
I don't know who does that Now you're

4278
02:47:44,990 --> 02:47:47,510
including the Martin renovation just a tire capital

4279
02:47:47,510 --> 02:47:49,150
you just said you just added in a

4280
02:47:49,150 --> 02:47:50,710
third building is what that is That's a

4281
02:47:50,710 --> 02:47:51,230
third building.

4282
02:47:51,810 --> 02:47:53,510
It's a building that's being built.

4283
02:47:53,770 --> 02:47:55,370
No, it's been it was built five years

4284
02:47:55,370 --> 02:47:58,030
ago We finished Martin five years over as

4285
02:47:58,030 --> 02:48:02,990
part of the overall So we're gonna take

4286
02:48:02,990 --> 02:48:12,810
a look but reporters then asking Generally speaking,

4287
02:48:12,930 --> 02:48:13,550
what would I do?

4288
02:48:14,130 --> 02:48:14,870
I'd fire him.

4289
02:48:15,190 --> 02:48:19,210
So this this whole thing is just baffling

4290
02:48:19,210 --> 02:48:25,190
to me 3.1 2.7 Billion before

4291
02:48:25,190 --> 02:48:28,530
offices They don't know that but they're already

4292
02:48:28,530 --> 02:48:30,810
built as you do renovation is the 2

4293
02:48:30,810 --> 02:48:32,730
.7 Do you know what it costs to

4294
02:48:32,730 --> 02:48:35,890
build the entire Bellagio in Las Vegas?

4295
02:48:36,610 --> 02:48:39,870
800 million no one's 1.6 billion and

4296
02:48:39,870 --> 02:48:40,450
that's expensive.

4297
02:48:40,570 --> 02:48:41,950
That was the most expensive building at the

4298
02:48:41,950 --> 02:48:44,630
time 1.6 billion to do the entire

4299
02:48:44,630 --> 02:48:47,230
Bellagio and is costing 2.7 to do

4300
02:48:47,230 --> 02:48:50,510
a Renovation yeah, I mean and that's a

4301
02:48:50,510 --> 02:48:57,810
scam at MSNBC the whole more Yeah, he

4302
02:48:57,810 --> 02:49:01,890
did but but the real the real information

4303
02:49:01,890 --> 02:49:05,790
is not discussed at all Which is the

4304
02:49:05,790 --> 02:49:08,310
whole reason why I think the main I

4305
02:49:08,310 --> 02:49:08,650
don't know.

4306
02:49:08,830 --> 02:49:11,570
I'm not the Fed chair but this is

4307
02:49:11,570 --> 02:49:14,290
the real reason that President Trump wants to

4308
02:49:14,290 --> 02:49:17,290
make some changes and this was in the

4309
02:49:17,970 --> 02:49:20,010
Statements of the press afterwards, which of course

4310
02:49:20,010 --> 02:49:21,130
no one no one aired.

4311
02:49:21,270 --> 02:49:23,530
Why would you if it's high never helps

4312
02:49:23,530 --> 02:49:23,730
it?

4313
02:49:24,170 --> 02:49:26,350
Well, it's already as good as we're doing

4314
02:49:26,930 --> 02:49:28,410
Think of how well would be do it

4315
02:49:28,410 --> 02:49:30,370
would be like a rocket ship as good

4316
02:49:30,370 --> 02:49:32,450
as we're doing We do better if we

4317
02:49:32,450 --> 02:49:34,630
had lower interest rates and we should we're

4318
02:49:34,630 --> 02:49:37,270
prime Don't forget without us the whole world

4319
02:49:37,270 --> 02:49:39,730
collapses So we should have the lowest interest

4320
02:49:39,730 --> 02:49:41,350
rate because you know, you could talk about

4321
02:49:41,350 --> 02:49:43,670
Switzerland You can talk about wonderful countries.

4322
02:49:43,750 --> 02:49:44,210
No debt.

4323
02:49:44,310 --> 02:49:47,350
No, but without us everything collapses We should

4324
02:49:47,350 --> 02:49:49,610
have the lowest interest rate And if you

4325
02:49:49,610 --> 02:49:51,850
took it down three points not a little

4326
02:49:51,850 --> 02:49:54,190
bit but three points if you got us

4327
02:49:54,190 --> 02:49:56,930
down to one We would save more than

4328
02:49:56,930 --> 02:49:59,370
a trillion dollars basically with just a paper

4329
02:49:59,370 --> 02:50:02,150
transfer You wouldn't be cutting costs of anything

4330
02:50:02,150 --> 02:50:05,250
You wouldn't be building anything just a a

4331
02:50:05,250 --> 02:50:07,810
move of the hand saying we're gonna lower

4332
02:50:07,810 --> 02:50:11,110
interest rates You would save a trillion dollars

4333
02:50:11,110 --> 02:50:13,390
a year and there's there's nothing you can

4334
02:50:13,390 --> 02:50:15,470
do to save that kind of money So

4335
02:50:15,470 --> 02:50:18,090
so well, we we had a little talk

4336
02:50:18,090 --> 02:50:19,570
about it and I thought it was a

4337
02:50:19,570 --> 02:50:22,530
very productive talk He'll be able to tell

4338
02:50:22,530 --> 02:50:23,930
you at his next meeting But I will

4339
02:50:23,930 --> 02:50:26,130
say that he did say the country is

4340
02:50:26,130 --> 02:50:28,530
doing really well and the country is really

4341
02:50:28,530 --> 02:50:32,450
doing well What would happen in your opinion?

4342
02:50:34,030 --> 02:50:39,870
If by some miraculous happenstance The Federal Reserve

4343
02:50:39,870 --> 02:50:42,630
lowered the interest rate by three points in

4344
02:50:42,630 --> 02:50:47,450
one go What would happen Well, first of

4345
02:50:47,450 --> 02:50:49,550
all, the housing market would go nuts.

4346
02:50:50,090 --> 02:50:53,170
Yeah, everyone would start buying houses Yeah, and

4347
02:50:53,170 --> 02:50:55,330
it would be the prices of houses would

4348
02:50:55,330 --> 02:50:56,810
just skyrocket.

4349
02:50:57,050 --> 02:50:57,530
Mm-hmm.

4350
02:50:57,690 --> 02:51:01,350
I mean to an extreme and the other

4351
02:51:01,350 --> 02:51:04,550
thing is the stock market would probably spend

4352
02:51:04,550 --> 02:51:06,650
about three or four days trying to figure

4353
02:51:06,650 --> 02:51:09,050
out whether this was good or bad and

4354
02:51:09,050 --> 02:51:12,330
then Perhaps start to go up to an

4355
02:51:12,330 --> 02:51:17,990
extreme that's uncomfortable Things would it would wouldn't

4356
02:51:17,990 --> 02:51:18,450
be a bet.

4357
02:51:18,610 --> 02:51:21,670
I mean It's not it wouldn't hurt anything

4358
02:51:21,670 --> 02:51:24,210
and we could refi the country overnight We

4359
02:51:24,210 --> 02:51:25,710
could refi the debt that we have to

4360
02:51:25,710 --> 02:51:26,730
pay back with a year.

4361
02:51:26,930 --> 02:51:29,270
Yeah, you refi would be a good idea

4362
02:51:29,270 --> 02:51:32,010
Yeah, that's how he saves the trillion dollars

4363
02:51:32,010 --> 02:51:36,940
by a refi so But they're not gonna

4364
02:51:36,940 --> 02:51:37,260
do it.

4365
02:51:37,300 --> 02:51:38,760
I mean, I don't know why we actually

4366
02:51:38,760 --> 02:51:41,180
have high the high Switzerland I think is

4367
02:51:41,180 --> 02:51:43,040
down to like 1.5 is really low

4368
02:51:43,040 --> 02:51:44,860
all of the EU is down to 2

4369
02:51:44,860 --> 02:51:46,260
Yeah, it's down.

4370
02:51:46,460 --> 02:51:48,880
We're actually artificially high.

4371
02:51:48,960 --> 02:51:50,660
It doesn't make any sense Well, is that

4372
02:51:50,660 --> 02:51:54,120
just political because he doesn't actually want Trump

4373
02:51:54,120 --> 02:51:56,020
to refi the country and say look I

4374
02:51:56,020 --> 02:51:59,280
saved this a trillion dollars It has to

4375
02:51:59,280 --> 02:52:01,540
be Well, that's an outrage.

4376
02:52:02,240 --> 02:52:04,320
I mean he did lower the interest rates

4377
02:52:04,320 --> 02:52:08,520
just before the Paris, you know Out of

4378
02:52:08,520 --> 02:52:09,940
the blue they said well, let's lower it

4379
02:52:09,940 --> 02:52:11,760
now and make the economy kind of perk

4380
02:52:11,760 --> 02:52:14,200
up a bit Yeah, and it did and

4381
02:52:14,200 --> 02:52:18,860
then he hasn't done anything since And he

4382
02:52:18,860 --> 02:52:21,080
was hired by Trump to begin with I

4383
02:52:21,080 --> 02:52:22,660
don't know what the thing is who's going

4384
02:52:22,660 --> 02:52:24,680
on there He could have been just the

4385
02:52:24,680 --> 02:52:27,340
bad advice Trump received for the first term

4386
02:52:27,340 --> 02:52:29,360
He was just everything was he put people

4387
02:52:29,360 --> 02:52:32,180
in there one person after another that were

4388
02:52:32,180 --> 02:52:33,000
just bad.

4389
02:52:33,140 --> 02:52:37,840
Yeah Right on cue which is exactly what

4390
02:52:37,840 --> 02:52:39,240
I would have done if I had the

4391
02:52:39,240 --> 02:52:43,420
Epstein scandal I'd Jack everything up and say

4392
02:52:43,420 --> 02:52:45,020
hey, you know what now?

4393
02:52:45,080 --> 02:52:47,540
I got everybody everybody believing that I that

4394
02:52:47,540 --> 02:52:51,080
I got Colbert fired Let's approve the merger

4395
02:52:51,080 --> 02:52:52,780
some news closer to home here at CBS

4396
02:52:52,780 --> 02:52:55,540
The Federal Communications Commission has approved the planned

4397
02:52:55,540 --> 02:52:58,340
merger between Paramount Global our parent company here

4398
02:52:58,340 --> 02:53:01,160
at CBS and Skydance Media It's a decision

4399
02:53:01,160 --> 02:53:02,920
that clears the way for Skydance is eight

4400
02:53:02,920 --> 02:53:06,120
billion dollar acquisition of Paramount and its subsidiaries

4401
02:53:06,120 --> 02:53:09,000
which include the CBS television network and its

4402
02:53:09,000 --> 02:53:12,820
owned and operated stations the FCC approval comes

4403
02:53:12,820 --> 02:53:15,500
after Paramount agreed to a 16 million dollar

4404
02:53:15,500 --> 02:53:18,520
settlement with President Trump over his allegation that

4405
02:53:18,520 --> 02:53:22,120
60 minutes Deceptively edited an interview with Democratic

4406
02:53:22,120 --> 02:53:24,780
nominee Kamala Harris an accusation that Paramount has

4407
02:53:24,780 --> 02:53:28,680
said was completely without merit Yeah, that's what

4408
02:53:28,680 --> 02:53:31,500
I do that's hilarious Yeah, prove it approve

4409
02:53:31,500 --> 02:53:33,540
it now and then you know what call

4410
02:53:33,540 --> 02:53:36,200
up those boys Call up those and those

4411
02:53:36,200 --> 02:53:37,080
cartoon boys.

4412
02:53:37,160 --> 02:53:38,820
Let him release the the new season.

4413
02:53:38,920 --> 02:53:41,060
This is hilarious Go go go go in

4414
02:53:41,060 --> 02:53:44,420
their season premiere South Park's co-creators Trey

4415
02:53:44,420 --> 02:53:47,420
Parker and Matt Stone are at it again

4416
02:53:47,420 --> 02:53:51,380
This time mocking President Trump's ego his manhood

4417
02:53:51,380 --> 02:53:55,220
and pension The episode has the White House

4418
02:53:55,220 --> 02:53:58,200
seeing red This show hasn't been relevant for

4419
02:53:58,200 --> 02:54:00,580
over 20 years and is hanging on by

4420
02:54:00,580 --> 02:54:03,340
a thread with uninspired ideas and a desperate

4421
02:54:03,340 --> 02:54:06,400
attempt for attention President Trump has delivered on

4422
02:54:06,400 --> 02:54:09,120
more promises in just six months than any

4423
02:54:09,120 --> 02:54:11,860
other President in our country's history and no

4424
02:54:11,860 --> 02:54:14,860
fourth-rate show can derail President Trump's hot

4425
02:54:14,860 --> 02:54:18,420
streak MAGA fans to reacted on social media

4426
02:54:18,420 --> 02:54:21,320
with many complaining that South Park had sold

4427
02:54:21,320 --> 02:54:23,960
out or caught a case of Trump Derangement

4428
02:54:23,960 --> 02:54:26,560
syndrome stone and Parker were asked to weigh

4429
02:54:26,560 --> 02:54:35,780
in on the uproar The episode also took

4430
02:54:35,780 --> 02:54:38,780
aim at South Park's new parent company Paramount

4431
02:54:38,780 --> 02:54:41,980
and its controversial Decision to pay Trump 16

4432
02:54:41,980 --> 02:54:44,700
million dollars to settle a lawsuit as well

4433
02:54:44,700 --> 02:54:47,880
as its Cancellation of the popular CBS program

4434
02:54:47,880 --> 02:54:54,370
The Late Show with Stephen Colbert The premiere

4435
02:54:54,370 --> 02:54:57,590
aired just hours after Parker and Stone signed

4436
02:54:57,590 --> 02:55:00,230
a five-year deal with Paramount For 50

4437
02:55:00,230 --> 02:55:03,370
new episodes and rights to stream previous seasons

4438
02:55:03,370 --> 02:55:06,150
Supported to be worth one and a half

4439
02:55:06,150 --> 02:55:10,210
billion dollars Yeah, I have not seen I've

4440
02:55:10,210 --> 02:55:12,750
seen all the clips clips of the episode

4441
02:55:12,750 --> 02:55:15,010
I just want to go see it and

4442
02:55:16,210 --> 02:55:19,970
I thought because I have HBO That I

4443
02:55:19,970 --> 02:55:21,910
would get it automatically, but they don't have

4444
02:55:21,910 --> 02:55:23,150
the new the new season.

4445
02:55:24,350 --> 02:55:26,130
I Don't know why and I'm not gonna

4446
02:55:26,130 --> 02:55:28,230
go buy Paramount streaming.

4447
02:55:28,690 --> 02:55:31,910
They have it on YouTube the full episode

4448
02:55:31,910 --> 02:55:35,150
No, they have the part that's controversial Yeah,

4449
02:55:35,250 --> 02:55:36,970
I know, but what if I just want

4450
02:55:36,970 --> 02:55:38,290
to see the whole episode I have to

4451
02:55:38,290 --> 02:55:41,130
buy Paramount to wait I gotta do that.

4452
02:55:41,450 --> 02:55:44,710
Well Paramount's who nobody does that No, I

4453
02:55:44,710 --> 02:55:48,590
wouldn't think so But the skydancing was gonna

4454
02:55:48,590 --> 02:55:50,530
go through no matter what of course now

4455
02:55:50,530 --> 02:55:52,390
that they have taken over They don't have

4456
02:55:52,390 --> 02:55:54,850
to fire Colbert I think Colbert is gonna

4457
02:55:54,850 --> 02:55:57,230
get let go before the May deadline is

4458
02:55:57,230 --> 02:55:58,050
gonna be bought out.

4459
02:55:58,130 --> 02:56:01,290
I won't put money on that Yeah, I'll

4460
02:56:01,290 --> 02:56:03,070
put ten bucks on it no, let's go

4461
02:56:03,070 --> 02:56:06,690
five Okay, so the bet would be that

4462
02:56:06,690 --> 02:56:09,850
Colbert last the whole to to me yeah,

4463
02:56:09,850 --> 02:56:13,090
oh he's gotta have a big goodbye and

4464
02:56:13,090 --> 02:56:15,970
all the Celebrities will come by in the

4465
02:56:15,970 --> 02:56:16,810
last week.

4466
02:56:16,910 --> 02:56:17,190
Okay.

4467
02:56:17,270 --> 02:56:21,710
Talk me out of the bet that It'll

4468
02:56:21,710 --> 02:56:23,750
be they'll finally get some ratings on that

4469
02:56:23,750 --> 02:56:23,950
show.

4470
02:56:24,030 --> 02:56:24,950
What are you talking about?

4471
02:56:24,950 --> 02:56:28,430
And so right the writers and that 200

4472
02:56:28,430 --> 02:56:30,510
person staff, yeah, they're getting they're getting axed

4473
02:56:30,510 --> 02:56:35,250
early now the Show that's tar.

4474
02:56:35,370 --> 02:56:36,910
I think there's gonna be targeted as comedy

4475
02:56:36,910 --> 02:56:38,150
central with Jon Stewart.

4476
02:56:38,850 --> 02:56:39,290
Yes.

4477
02:56:39,750 --> 02:56:43,350
Yes So the skydance guys are gonna have

4478
02:56:43,350 --> 02:56:45,950
to take care of that themselves We'll see

4479
02:56:45,950 --> 02:56:46,550
how it works out.

4480
02:56:46,630 --> 02:56:48,810
Do we not understand that it is time

4481
02:56:48,810 --> 02:56:51,590
it is time for linear Programming to just

4482
02:56:51,590 --> 02:56:52,250
go away.

4483
02:56:52,310 --> 02:56:55,070
It's not of this world anymore Linear hanging

4484
02:56:55,070 --> 02:56:55,410
in there.

4485
02:56:55,470 --> 02:56:58,430
I like the fact that the View is

4486
02:56:58,430 --> 02:57:01,030
taking a the nasty word hiatus.

4487
02:57:01,310 --> 02:57:02,350
Yeah, what happened there?

4488
02:57:02,390 --> 02:57:04,090
Do we know out of the blue?

4489
02:57:04,890 --> 02:57:06,810
We're going on a hiatus and you know

4490
02:57:06,810 --> 02:57:07,430
what that means.

4491
02:57:07,610 --> 02:57:08,870
Well, maybe there's just a vacation.

4492
02:57:09,130 --> 02:57:11,830
Maybe it's just July We didn't say vacation.

4493
02:57:11,950 --> 02:57:12,690
They didn't say that.

4494
02:57:12,790 --> 02:57:15,690
Well, no we in television in television land.

4495
02:57:15,790 --> 02:57:19,210
We say hiatus We're on hiatus when you're

4496
02:57:19,210 --> 02:57:19,670
done.

4497
02:57:19,750 --> 02:57:21,850
We're on hiatus this Thursday John.

4498
02:57:22,010 --> 02:57:25,470
Whoa No, we're not Taking a date.

4499
02:57:25,570 --> 02:57:26,790
We're taking a show off and the show

4500
02:57:26,790 --> 02:57:28,330
is still gonna be produced It's gonna be

4501
02:57:28,330 --> 02:57:30,730
a dynamite show and it's got you know,

4502
02:57:30,750 --> 02:57:31,430
it'll be fine.

4503
02:57:31,530 --> 02:57:32,170
It'll be great.

4504
02:57:32,230 --> 02:57:34,790
Well You I think you mentioned this to

4505
02:57:34,790 --> 02:57:38,310
me right after the show on Sunday and

4506
02:57:38,310 --> 02:57:39,830
I was like I hadn't heard about this

4507
02:57:39,830 --> 02:57:42,410
But yes, it's true next Amazon founder Jeff

4508
02:57:42,410 --> 02:57:45,090
Bezos fresh off that lavish wedding in Venice

4509
02:57:45,090 --> 02:57:47,910
Maybe looking to expand his media empire already

4510
02:57:47,910 --> 02:57:50,050
owns the Washington Post and now he's reportedly

4511
02:57:50,050 --> 02:57:53,030
thinking about buying CNBC That is according to

4512
02:57:53,030 --> 02:57:55,030
the New York Post, but Bezos does not

4513
02:57:55,030 --> 02:58:01,810
comment My understanding he's gonna buy the whole

4514
02:58:01,810 --> 02:58:04,770
thing he's gonna buy MSNBC CNBC that whole

4515
02:58:04,770 --> 02:58:06,250
group He's not just buying see it.

4516
02:58:06,330 --> 02:58:08,090
They're not spinning it off.

4517
02:58:08,350 --> 02:58:10,130
Just see that has to be part of

4518
02:58:10,130 --> 02:58:11,890
the whole pack He gets spin co spin

4519
02:58:11,890 --> 02:58:13,330
co spin go.

4520
02:58:13,430 --> 02:58:14,390
What will he call it?

4521
02:58:15,950 --> 02:58:22,530
Bezos television Amazon TV Amazon TV is not

4522
02:58:22,530 --> 02:58:25,110
bad the Amazon Network He could fold it

4523
02:58:25,110 --> 02:58:25,670
into Amazon.

4524
02:58:25,870 --> 02:58:29,910
That's interesting That's a way to go He

4525
02:58:29,910 --> 02:58:30,970
could fold it into prime.

4526
02:58:31,110 --> 02:58:32,390
He should let his new wife.

4527
02:58:32,590 --> 02:58:34,330
They can do live streaming.

4528
02:58:34,590 --> 02:58:39,830
Yeah on prime and They're never gonna take

4529
02:58:39,830 --> 02:58:41,850
it off of cable because that's still the

4530
02:58:41,850 --> 02:58:43,850
money the carriage fees is still the money

4531
02:58:43,850 --> 02:58:45,990
No, but that but the but the dildos

4532
02:58:45,990 --> 02:58:49,030
still transcoded and running off a straight off

4533
02:58:49,030 --> 02:58:52,010
of Amazon, too Because because if it's on

4534
02:58:52,010 --> 02:58:55,150
Amazon well, I guess if people pay it's

4535
02:58:55,150 --> 02:58:58,810
such it's free money the cable station Yeah,

4536
02:58:58,810 --> 02:58:59,430
well money.

4537
02:58:59,690 --> 02:59:03,430
Yeah Okay, there is some issues with doing

4538
02:59:03,430 --> 02:59:03,790
both.

4539
02:59:03,930 --> 02:59:04,350
I agree.

4540
02:59:04,450 --> 02:59:06,050
But why is he doing because he really

4541
02:59:06,050 --> 02:59:10,230
wants to be because the CIA Knocked on

4542
02:59:10,230 --> 02:59:11,690
the door and said hey look.

4543
02:59:11,730 --> 02:59:13,770
Hey, look we did we're gonna lose control

4544
02:59:13,770 --> 02:59:16,190
of this little outlet We want you'd bought

4545
02:59:16,190 --> 02:59:18,110
the Washington Post for us, which is as

4546
02:59:18,110 --> 02:59:22,670
Steve Bannon mentioned is called the CIA bugle

4547
02:59:22,670 --> 02:59:25,450
and Not to see it's no it's not

4548
02:59:25,450 --> 02:59:32,270
it's the where's the CIA located In Langley

4549
02:59:32,270 --> 02:59:33,410
the Langley bugle.

4550
02:59:33,490 --> 02:59:35,370
I think he called it the Langley bugle

4551
02:59:35,370 --> 02:59:36,610
not the Langley bugle.

4552
02:59:36,670 --> 02:59:39,370
Okay Yeah, but you got that now you're

4553
02:59:39,370 --> 02:59:42,310
gonna have to help us out here And

4554
02:59:42,310 --> 02:59:46,170
we'll keep Contracting with your servers to do

4555
02:59:46,170 --> 02:59:48,270
to do our backhand and that's what you

4556
02:59:48,270 --> 02:59:50,150
know Cuz he's got most of that business.

4557
02:59:50,210 --> 02:59:51,950
So you think he's kind of does what

4558
02:59:51,950 --> 02:59:53,250
he had what he's told Do you think

4559
02:59:53,250 --> 02:59:54,750
Sanchez is his handler?

4560
02:59:55,190 --> 02:59:56,430
It makes a lot of sense.

4561
02:59:56,510 --> 02:59:59,870
Actually, I think about it Wow Huh?

4562
03:00:01,450 --> 03:00:03,430
Yeah, that's an interesting theory.

4563
03:00:03,610 --> 03:00:04,310
Why not?

4564
03:00:05,850 --> 03:00:07,490
Yeah, I could be she could be the

4565
03:00:07,490 --> 03:00:07,850
handler.

4566
03:00:08,250 --> 03:00:12,350
Yeah Hmm Anyway, good luck to him.

4567
03:00:12,590 --> 03:00:13,210
That's great.

4568
03:00:13,750 --> 03:00:15,070
Keep keep it going Jeff.

4569
03:00:15,310 --> 03:00:17,970
We need clips Yeah, that's true.

4570
03:00:18,030 --> 03:00:21,210
We need clips and Places a goldmine you

4571
03:00:21,210 --> 03:00:23,730
got anything to to play us out with

4572
03:00:23,730 --> 03:00:25,010
cuz we know I can play us out

4573
03:00:25,010 --> 03:00:26,610
with a little fish poaching You want to

4574
03:00:26,610 --> 03:00:28,250
talk about fish poaching, you know, I kind

4575
03:00:28,250 --> 03:00:29,330
of an interesting story.

4576
03:00:29,510 --> 03:00:31,410
I thought you'd never asked about fish poaching

4577
03:00:32,250 --> 03:00:35,630
Fish poaching fish poachers, there are small fishing

4578
03:00:35,630 --> 03:00:39,030
boats and then there are industrial fishing ships

4579
03:00:39,030 --> 03:00:43,770
They're basically floating factories at sea Imagine a

4580
03:00:43,770 --> 03:00:46,730
huge vessel on the water that is pulling

4581
03:00:46,730 --> 03:00:50,770
in just vast vast quantities of fish Jennifer

4582
03:00:50,770 --> 03:00:53,010
Rainer is a natural resource economist at the

4583
03:00:53,010 --> 03:00:56,430
University of Wisconsin, Madison She says these massive

4584
03:00:56,430 --> 03:00:59,610
boats catch fish Process it freeze it and

4585
03:00:59,610 --> 03:01:01,490
then other boats come to pick it up

4586
03:01:01,490 --> 03:01:04,650
So the operation doesn't have to stop sometimes

4587
03:01:04,650 --> 03:01:07,210
these boats can be out there for two

4588
03:01:07,210 --> 03:01:09,730
years at a time Just fishing non-stop

4589
03:01:09,730 --> 03:01:11,570
in places that they never could have reached

4590
03:01:11,570 --> 03:01:14,650
before These large vessels are now responsible for

4591
03:01:14,650 --> 03:01:17,510
most of the global seafood catch Rainer says

4592
03:01:17,510 --> 03:01:20,290
many of these ships now have GPS transponders

4593
03:01:20,290 --> 03:01:23,210
that report their position But there are still

4594
03:01:23,210 --> 03:01:27,110
blind spots those blind spots are that captains

4595
03:01:27,110 --> 03:01:30,210
can disable this device and you might expect

4596
03:01:30,210 --> 03:01:31,710
that you'd be more likely to do that

4597
03:01:31,710 --> 03:01:33,670
if you're doing things that are illegal and

4598
03:01:34,450 --> 03:01:36,990
Many vessels are not required to use this

4599
03:01:36,990 --> 03:01:39,230
system It's been hard to figure out the

4600
03:01:39,230 --> 03:01:41,790
impact of these dark vessels as they're known

4601
03:01:41,790 --> 03:01:45,130
are having on marine life Now new technology

4602
03:01:45,130 --> 03:01:48,570
is helping radar from European satellites is able

4603
03:01:48,570 --> 03:01:51,510
to detect large vessels on the ocean Rainer

4604
03:01:51,510 --> 03:01:53,890
and our colleagues use all that tracking data

4605
03:01:53,890 --> 03:01:56,130
to see how many vessels were in marine

4606
03:01:56,130 --> 03:02:00,730
protected areas places where fishing is banned Wow,

4607
03:02:00,730 --> 03:02:02,790
I am kind of sorry I asked for

4608
03:02:02,790 --> 03:02:03,090
this.

4609
03:02:03,370 --> 03:02:06,830
Yeah, you should be But I still amazed

4610
03:02:06,830 --> 03:02:08,650
by a ship that's just sits out there

4611
03:02:08,650 --> 03:02:10,850
grabbing fish like there's no tomorrow for two

4612
03:02:10,850 --> 03:02:14,630
years Well, yeah, what a job that's got

4613
03:02:14,630 --> 03:02:17,210
to be you must not like women Perhaps

4614
03:02:17,210 --> 03:02:20,170
surprisingly given how hard monitoring is and how

4615
03:02:20,170 --> 03:02:23,130
vast these spaces can be We found that

4616
03:02:23,130 --> 03:02:26,490
poaching is surprisingly rare almost 80% of

4617
03:02:26,490 --> 03:02:29,590
the protected areas had no industrial fishing activity

4618
03:02:29,590 --> 03:02:31,970
Which Rainer published in the journal science?

4619
03:02:32,130 --> 03:02:34,190
I think it's a very hopeful sign for

4620
03:02:34,190 --> 03:02:36,590
conservation At a bare minimum.

4621
03:02:36,810 --> 03:02:39,410
We need compliance right a study by other

4622
03:02:39,410 --> 03:02:42,710
researchers also use the same tracking data Raphael

4623
03:02:42,710 --> 03:02:45,190
Sagan of the University of Montpellier in France

4624
03:02:45,190 --> 03:02:47,650
looked at a bigger group of protected areas

4625
03:02:47,650 --> 03:02:50,910
places with some protections But that still allows

4626
03:02:50,910 --> 03:02:54,230
some fishing he found industrial fishing going on

4627
03:02:54,230 --> 03:02:56,490
in about half of them Two-thirds of

4628
03:02:56,490 --> 03:02:59,250
industrial fishing in these marine protected areas were

4629
03:02:59,250 --> 03:03:02,110
untracked They were invisible to public tracking systems

4630
03:03:02,110 --> 03:03:04,730
And that means that we have underestimated what

4631
03:03:04,730 --> 03:03:06,630
is actually going on in marine protected areas

4632
03:03:06,630 --> 03:03:09,990
Almost 200 countries have agreed to protect 30

4633
03:03:09,990 --> 03:03:13,130
% of the ocean by 2030 Today, it's

4634
03:03:13,130 --> 03:03:15,990
only about 8% But Sagan says if

4635
03:03:15,990 --> 03:03:18,990
there's industrial fishing in these protected areas that

4636
03:03:18,990 --> 03:03:21,790
goal doesn't mean much Every area of the

4637
03:03:21,790 --> 03:03:24,430
ocean that can be fished is fished today

4638
03:03:24,430 --> 03:03:26,970
So that's a big issue because when we

4639
03:03:26,970 --> 03:03:28,990
say we want to protect 30% of

4640
03:03:28,990 --> 03:03:31,410
the ocean most of the time it's false

4641
03:03:31,410 --> 03:03:34,210
Protection, but Sagan says the potential is that

4642
03:03:34,210 --> 03:03:37,090
these new satellite technologies could help countries with

4643
03:03:37,090 --> 03:03:40,770
enforcement By tracking illegal fishing in real time

4644
03:03:40,770 --> 03:03:43,690
so protected areas of the ocean will actually

4645
03:03:43,690 --> 03:03:47,190
be protected Well, yeah, I'm sorry.

4646
03:03:47,290 --> 03:03:47,750
I got those.

4647
03:03:48,010 --> 03:03:48,210
Yeah.

4648
03:03:48,230 --> 03:03:50,450
Yeah, but but I will say it's educational

4649
03:03:50,450 --> 03:03:53,510
people now No, and do you know what

4650
03:03:53,510 --> 03:03:55,530
the oh, is it raining?

4651
03:03:55,670 --> 03:03:56,890
Oh, it just started pouring.

4652
03:03:57,190 --> 03:03:59,650
Do you know what the Yeah, just start

4653
03:03:59,650 --> 03:04:02,110
pouring all of a sudden You know what

4654
03:04:02,110 --> 03:04:03,230
the what the main?

4655
03:04:03,830 --> 03:04:09,150
catch is of these poachers Sharks mackerel.

4656
03:04:10,490 --> 03:04:17,110
Oh now you've connected the dots Imagine all

4657
03:04:17,110 --> 03:04:27,110
the people who could do that The car

4658
03:04:27,110 --> 03:04:28,450
we got John's tip of the day we

4659
03:04:28,450 --> 03:04:31,130
got real some three a real toe-tapper

4660
03:04:31,130 --> 03:04:32,730
for you end of show mix Of course,

4661
03:04:33,030 --> 03:04:34,250
we'll check some ISOs.

4662
03:04:34,290 --> 03:04:35,850
We've got some meetup reports and right now

4663
03:04:35,850 --> 03:04:37,730
John will thank the rest of our supporters

4664
03:04:37,730 --> 03:04:39,990
the donors in The time talent and treasurer

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value for value model $50 and above Yeah,

4666
03:04:43,870 --> 03:04:48,350
let's start with miss miss masters In London

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UK $111 and 11 cents miss Miss masters,

4668
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my husband and I listen to every show

4669
03:04:55,350 --> 03:05:00,270
since the Scam Demick That's a constant relief.

4670
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You know that there are such souls Referring

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to us of substance walking among us.

4672
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I Thought that was a nice note.

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Yes, and I'm amazed they're still in England

4674
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people seem to be leaving.

4675
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Yeah, I am to actually seem to be

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leaving there.

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They're London mark a breast are in Mesa,

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birthday him He heard John Joe Rogan, yeah

4680
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for the pandemic Rogan donation, I thank God

4681
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I found you Keep up the great work.

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Please deduce me You've been de-douched Here

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she is Dame Rita.

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She's in Sparks, Nevada.

4685
03:05:45,350 --> 03:05:48,290
I came up on a 727 Robin Tolbert

4686
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in Topeka, Kansas 9998 Josh Britt in Spring

4687
03:05:55,330 --> 03:06:01,630
Hill, Tennessee 8033 Times top 100 was alphabetical.

4688
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That's that's what I said.

4689
03:06:03,130 --> 03:06:04,650
It was very clear about that.

4690
03:06:04,850 --> 03:06:08,090
He's making it, you know He didn't put

4691
03:06:08,090 --> 03:06:09,750
that you also said it sucks.

4692
03:06:10,170 --> 03:06:13,670
Yeah, Kevin McLaughlin Conquer, North Carolina's up He's

4693
03:06:13,670 --> 03:06:15,570
came in with 808 as usual.

4694
03:06:15,670 --> 03:06:17,670
He's the Archduke of Luna lover of America

4695
03:06:17,670 --> 03:06:22,350
and lover of melons Mm-hmm Benjamin Ryan

4696
03:06:22,350 --> 03:06:25,750
in North Canton, Ohio 7242 you forgot to

4697
03:06:25,750 --> 03:06:27,930
say he said God bless America that is

4698
03:06:27,930 --> 03:06:30,650
part of his note And that's so it

4699
03:06:30,650 --> 03:06:38,130
is Brian Ryan Benjamin Ryan's what is he

4700
03:06:38,130 --> 03:06:38,550
Brian?

4701
03:06:38,650 --> 03:06:42,490
I said Brian Ryan because it rhymed Benjamin

4702
03:06:42,490 --> 03:06:48,110
Ryan being born today Right 7242.

4703
03:06:48,190 --> 03:06:53,830
All right, Ben He says please place all

4704
03:06:53,830 --> 03:06:57,030
show credits in her name, which is his

4705
03:06:57,030 --> 03:07:01,270
ILO Instead of mine, okay.

4706
03:07:01,330 --> 03:07:03,810
Well, we don't have the name but whatever

4707
03:07:04,430 --> 03:07:06,770
We do the best we can John Albarrini

4708
03:07:06,770 --> 03:07:12,150
ends parts unknown 7026 Joshua John's in no

4709
03:07:12,150 --> 03:07:17,750
city provided 69 69 Brian McFadden in Hampton,

4710
03:07:18,110 --> 03:07:22,270
Virginia 6114 that's a birthday Barrett we a

4711
03:07:22,270 --> 03:07:24,310
lot of birthdays today's, you know, so I

4712
03:07:24,310 --> 03:07:27,650
did notice baron sir phenom another birthday.

4713
03:07:27,850 --> 03:07:34,430
He's in Appleton, Wisconsin Thomas gets in Dortmund

4714
03:07:34,430 --> 03:07:38,530
at Deutschland That's where they make the Dortmunder.

4715
03:07:38,830 --> 03:07:42,610
Mm-hmm beer a Sir prize in Yukon,

4716
03:07:42,810 --> 03:07:43,270
Oklahoma.

4717
03:07:43,510 --> 03:07:45,870
Oh, by the way, Dortmunder guy is 55

4718
03:07:45,870 --> 03:07:48,490
10 Thank you for the Germans who listen

4719
03:07:48,490 --> 03:07:50,950
to this show sir prize in Yukon, Oklahoma

4720
03:07:50,950 --> 03:07:59,290
5444 Daniel Nugent in Grand Rapids, Michigan 5272

4721
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He likes to boomer talk Kevin Kevin Adam

4722
03:08:03,890 --> 03:08:09,870
in Clover, South Carolina's 52 72 James Van

4723
03:08:09,870 --> 03:08:14,650
hearing in Dutch name I can't pronounce Foothill

4724
03:08:14,650 --> 03:08:15,450
Ranch, California.

4725
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Did a good job.

4726
03:08:17,030 --> 03:08:23,550
Good job Ashley McClellan in Strongville, Ohio 5150

4727
03:08:23,550 --> 03:08:26,230
is a switcheroo for a douche douchebag brother

4728
03:08:26,230 --> 03:08:27,950
Brandon Walters.

4729
03:08:28,050 --> 03:08:31,950
Happy birthday You miss Nathan Gwynn in Jackson,

4730
03:08:32,150 --> 03:08:37,490
Tennessee Nathan Gwynn Tennessee 52 72 is less

4731
03:08:37,490 --> 03:08:40,590
than that's Nathan George Wushu in Lavergna, Texas

4732
03:08:40,590 --> 03:08:41,290
50.

4733
03:08:41,410 --> 03:08:44,390
Oh, these are already $50 donors We don't

4734
03:08:44,390 --> 03:08:46,830
have a lot today Which for some reason

4735
03:08:46,830 --> 03:08:50,190
the $50 are lagging a lot of them

4736
03:08:50,190 --> 03:08:52,650
are adding the extra $2 and 72 cents

4737
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Yeah, a George Wushu in Lavergna, Texas Jacqueline

4738
03:08:56,730 --> 03:09:00,230
Connell Jacqueline Connelly in Green Bay, Wisconsin go

4739
03:09:00,230 --> 03:09:02,450
Packers Richard Gardner I think he's in New

4740
03:09:02,450 --> 03:09:08,570
York City Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon Benjamin

4741
03:09:08,570 --> 03:09:12,250
Ryan in Alliance, Ohio Michael Myers in Mandeville,

4742
03:09:12,470 --> 03:09:16,230
Iowa and last on the list Leanne Shipley

4743
03:09:16,230 --> 03:09:19,450
in Covington, Washington Want to thank these people

4744
03:09:19,450 --> 03:09:23,010
for making show 1785 the reality that it

4745
03:09:23,010 --> 03:09:25,650
has become dynamite everybody Thank you.

4746
03:09:25,670 --> 03:09:27,390
And I also thank you again to those

4747
03:09:27,390 --> 03:09:31,590
executive and associate executive producers for 1785 and

4748
03:09:31,590 --> 03:09:33,270
thank you to everybody who came in under

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$50 we do not mention those for reasons

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03:09:35,270 --> 03:09:36,830
of anonymity and of course, you can always

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set up a Sustaining donation by going to

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know agenda donations calm any amount any frequency.

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It's all value for value You keep the

4754
03:09:44,810 --> 03:09:46,690
show rolling if you want if you get

4755
03:09:46,690 --> 03:09:49,470
value out of it, no agenda donations calm

4756
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It's your birthday Well, Brian McFadden turned 58

4757
03:09:56,770 --> 03:10:01,670
on the 24th of July Harjit dosanjh Now

4758
03:10:01,670 --> 03:10:04,470
I think Harjit had a donation for her

4759
03:10:04,470 --> 03:10:06,250
husband But I don't know if it's her

4760
03:10:06,250 --> 03:10:09,030
or him who turns 58 on July 27th.

4761
03:10:09,030 --> 03:10:11,670
That would be today Dame Nikki Ray, happy

4762
03:10:11,670 --> 03:10:12,650
birthday to her daughter.

4763
03:10:12,770 --> 03:10:14,570
She turns 20 today Bobby Burke.

4764
03:10:14,970 --> 03:10:18,290
Happy birthday his wife Joanne Celebrates tomorrow barons

4765
03:10:18,290 --> 03:10:21,750
are phenom celebrating his birthday tomorrow Mark Brustaur

4766
03:10:21,750 --> 03:10:25,890
turns 51 William Levenberg turns 33 and Ashley

4767
03:10:25,890 --> 03:10:28,590
McClellan wishes her brother Brandon Walters a very

4768
03:10:28,590 --> 03:10:31,070
happy birthday as do we happy birthday from

4769
03:10:31,070 --> 03:10:33,390
everybody here It's the best podcast in the

4770
03:10:33,390 --> 03:10:37,990
universe Three PhDs to celebrate today.

4771
03:10:38,130 --> 03:10:39,450
This is winding down.

4772
03:10:39,590 --> 03:10:41,050
This will be it actually won't it?

4773
03:10:41,630 --> 03:10:42,950
No, we I think we got one more

4774
03:10:42,950 --> 03:10:46,550
show one more show And one more show

4775
03:10:46,550 --> 03:10:48,050
so you and it's gonna be since it's

4776
03:10:48,050 --> 03:10:50,030
gonna be we're gonna do the special shows

4777
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you could probably sneak in late if you

4778
03:10:53,790 --> 03:10:55,470
Want to but I don't think you should

4779
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Leaving a little sliver of daylight there.

4780
03:10:58,590 --> 03:11:01,030
I hear a little bit Well, congratulations to

4781
03:11:01,030 --> 03:11:03,470
Eric Reinhardt, sir, Mike Slayer of taxes and

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David Crawford.

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All of them are now PhDs in media

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deconstruction Congratulations gentlemen go to no agenda rings

4785
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calm.

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We have a tab there for your PhDs

4787
03:11:13,390 --> 03:11:14,790
Let us know what name you want on

4788
03:11:14,790 --> 03:11:17,470
it and what address to send it to

4789
03:11:17,470 --> 03:11:18,690
and we'll get it out to you as

4790
03:11:18,690 --> 03:11:20,790
soon as Possible everybody go take a look.

4791
03:11:20,890 --> 03:11:24,210
Um, they're really beautiful Certificates for your PhD

4792
03:11:24,210 --> 03:11:26,250
one night to celebrate today.

4793
03:11:26,330 --> 03:11:28,150
So we'll bring out our one-night blade.

4794
03:11:28,270 --> 03:11:30,590
It is double-sided So be curious and

4795
03:11:30,590 --> 03:11:38,030
be very careful What you do Thanks to

4796
03:11:38,030 --> 03:11:40,150
the amount of $1,000 or more you

4797
03:11:40,150 --> 03:11:41,590
sir are about to become a knight of

4798
03:11:41,590 --> 03:11:43,630
the no agenda roundtable I'm very proud to

4799
03:11:43,630 --> 03:11:45,710
pronounce the Cape V as the one the

4800
03:11:45,710 --> 03:11:49,150
only Eric for you, we've got hookers and

4801
03:11:49,150 --> 03:11:51,350
blow rent boys and chardonnay, but it doesn't

4802
03:11:51,350 --> 03:11:53,790
stop there No, we've got diet soda and

4803
03:11:53,790 --> 03:11:54,470
video games.

4804
03:11:54,530 --> 03:11:57,010
We've got harlots and howl doll We've got

4805
03:11:57,010 --> 03:11:59,210
redheads and rise Rubin s women in rose

4806
03:11:59,210 --> 03:12:01,950
a gaseous a sake vodka vanilla bong It's

4807
03:12:01,950 --> 03:12:04,110
a bourbon sparkling cider and escorts ginger ale

4808
03:12:04,110 --> 03:12:13,890
and gerbils breast milk and pablum Go

4809
03:12:13,890 --> 03:12:16,010
ahead and go to no agenda rings comm

4810
03:12:16,010 --> 03:12:18,790
check out that handsome no agenda night ring

4811
03:12:18,790 --> 03:12:20,930
It is a signet ring, which means you

4812
03:12:20,930 --> 03:12:23,370
can use it to seal your important correspondence

4813
03:12:23,370 --> 03:12:25,670
We supply some sticks of wax to do

4814
03:12:25,670 --> 03:12:28,290
that very action with and of course, there's

4815
03:12:28,290 --> 03:12:30,430
always a certificate of authenticity Welcome to the

4816
03:12:30,430 --> 03:12:41,050
roundtable, sir Well, despite

4817
03:12:41,050 --> 03:12:43,090
what John tells you we do have meetups

4818
03:12:43,090 --> 03:12:44,850
on the calendar I mean the people are

4819
03:12:44,850 --> 03:12:47,150
still organizing meetups all around the world.

4820
03:12:47,310 --> 03:12:49,130
No agenda meetups calm Remember we got the

4821
03:12:49,130 --> 03:12:51,470
big one coming up in Tokyo But first

4822
03:12:51,470 --> 03:12:53,330
we have a report from the Central Ohio

4823
03:12:53,330 --> 03:12:55,750
meetup group in the morning John and Adam

4824
03:12:55,750 --> 03:12:57,530
sir PBR Street gang coming to you from

4825
03:12:57,530 --> 03:13:01,510
Dempsey's downtown Columbus, sir Larry's group of scallywags

4826
03:13:01,510 --> 03:13:05,010
looking for our deconstruction team, sir Larry here

4827
03:13:05,010 --> 03:13:07,190
just so y'all know less bucks or

4828
03:13:07,190 --> 03:13:09,450
gave Jeffrey Epstein his phone number.

4829
03:13:09,490 --> 03:13:12,650
It's 6 1 4 6 6 6 6

4830
03:13:12,650 --> 03:13:16,310
9 6 9 in the morning bags slappers

4831
03:13:16,310 --> 03:13:20,190
Local representative of the peasantry here John you

4832
03:13:20,190 --> 03:13:21,450
need to go back on who are these

4833
03:13:21,450 --> 03:13:22,970
podcasts Adam?

4834
03:13:23,210 --> 03:13:24,470
You got to get on who are these

4835
03:13:24,470 --> 03:13:27,190
podcasts your new exit strategy?

4836
03:13:27,910 --> 03:13:30,490
Grifters in the dabble verse keep on trucking.

4837
03:13:30,610 --> 03:13:36,290
Stay safe You're more than welcome not every

4838
03:13:36,290 --> 03:13:38,550
single meetup is big but two people even

4839
03:13:38,550 --> 03:13:40,370
one and a dog you got a meetup

4840
03:13:40,370 --> 03:13:43,650
Victoria British Columbia Alright, this is sir rogue

4841
03:13:43,650 --> 03:13:45,530
of the taverns baron of the Cowichan Valley

4842
03:13:45,530 --> 03:13:50,050
at the Victoria meetup on Friday July 25th

4843
03:13:50,050 --> 03:13:56,030
2025 and with me here today It's ITM

4844
03:13:56,030 --> 03:13:58,470
and What you say to yourself meet you

4845
03:13:58,470 --> 03:13:59,170
come to the house.

4846
03:13:59,230 --> 03:14:00,030
There we go.

4847
03:14:00,110 --> 03:14:02,630
There's the meetup report for the Victoria meetup

4848
03:14:02,630 --> 03:14:03,670
Hope everyone joins us.

4849
03:14:03,710 --> 03:14:05,430
We'll be doing this again in about two

4850
03:14:05,430 --> 03:14:14,270
weeks No, he pinched the dog I like

4851
03:14:14,270 --> 03:14:16,130
the word of that report That was awesome,

4852
03:14:16,210 --> 03:14:18,590
and I sound like a very native Dutch

4853
03:14:18,590 --> 03:14:20,590
speaker there and we had at that meetup.

4854
03:14:20,650 --> 03:14:22,430
Thank you very much We have a meetup

4855
03:14:22,430 --> 03:14:23,610
taking place this Wednesday.

4856
03:14:23,610 --> 03:14:25,350
It is July 30th We told you all

4857
03:14:25,350 --> 03:14:27,650
about us the emergency meetup and birthday celebration

4858
03:14:27,650 --> 03:14:30,170
for sir Sebastian of the Gitmo lowlands That

4859
03:14:30,170 --> 03:14:33,390
will be at 730 Japan standard time at

4860
03:14:33,390 --> 03:14:34,030
Cy bloom.

4861
03:14:34,370 --> 03:14:36,310
See why BL you and me in Shibuya?

4862
03:14:37,270 --> 03:14:41,510
Shibuya Japan Tokyo Japan sir Mark Archduke of

4863
03:14:41,510 --> 03:14:44,430
Japan Japan Sea and all disputed lands Is

4864
03:14:44,430 --> 03:14:47,070
organizing that and on Thursday our next official

4865
03:14:47,070 --> 03:14:49,290
show day, which will be the best of

4866
03:14:49,290 --> 03:14:52,490
Adam and John's Exit strategies.

4867
03:14:52,970 --> 03:14:54,410
It's hours of fun.

4868
03:14:54,450 --> 03:14:55,370
You will laugh.

4869
03:14:55,430 --> 03:14:58,510
This is a good show North Georgia monthly

4870
03:14:58,510 --> 03:15:00,630
meetup Takes place at 6 o'clock at

4871
03:15:00,630 --> 03:15:03,670
Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia many more

4872
03:15:03,670 --> 03:15:07,090
to come in August, Victoria British Columbia Eagle,

4873
03:15:07,230 --> 03:15:12,010
Idaho Bedford, Texas Copenhagen Denmark Blaine, Washington, Charlotte,

4874
03:15:12,190 --> 03:15:15,730
North Carolina Maastricht the Netherlands Cleveland, Ohio Hello,

4875
03:15:15,870 --> 03:15:19,590
Cleveland Mayfield Heights, Ohio Alpharetta, Georgia again And

4876
03:15:19,590 --> 03:15:21,370
there's many more go to no agenda meetups

4877
03:15:21,370 --> 03:15:23,430
calm to find the entire list if you

4878
03:15:23,430 --> 03:15:25,730
can't find one on that list No problem.

4879
03:15:25,870 --> 03:15:27,210
You can start one yourself.

4880
03:15:27,350 --> 03:15:49,210
No agenda meetups And

4881
03:15:49,210 --> 03:15:51,970
They are indeed always like a party and

4882
03:15:51,970 --> 03:15:53,770
that's pretty much baked into the whole idea

4883
03:15:53,770 --> 03:15:56,250
Guaranteed time for us to select some ISOs

4884
03:15:56,250 --> 03:15:57,170
for the end of the show.

4885
03:15:57,610 --> 03:15:59,890
I see you have to John I'm not

4886
03:15:59,890 --> 03:16:01,730
even gonna ask if you found them yourself

4887
03:16:01,730 --> 03:16:04,790
of the AI generated doesn't matter I'll start

4888
03:16:04,790 --> 03:16:05,230
with mine.

4889
03:16:05,410 --> 03:16:06,610
These guys are smart.

4890
03:16:06,730 --> 03:16:07,590
They're hard-working.

4891
03:16:07,690 --> 03:16:08,430
They're motivated.

4892
03:16:08,630 --> 03:16:12,470
They want more more Tad on the long

4893
03:16:12,470 --> 03:16:19,430
side They have this one full-body They

4894
03:16:19,430 --> 03:16:21,410
couldn't understand it, okay, how about this one

4895
03:16:21,410 --> 03:16:25,650
that's just propaganda Cute I kind of like

4896
03:16:25,650 --> 03:16:26,070
that one.

4897
03:16:26,130 --> 03:16:26,790
What do you have?

4898
03:16:27,470 --> 03:16:29,350
I don't have anything good either.

4899
03:16:29,650 --> 03:16:30,430
Oh, okay.

4900
03:16:31,070 --> 03:16:32,750
Let's start with what do we got?

4901
03:16:32,810 --> 03:16:35,430
Let's do with the podcasts wherever you get

4902
03:16:35,430 --> 03:16:40,910
your podcasts Oh, no No No, no, then

4903
03:16:40,910 --> 03:16:42,710
the other one is of support.

4904
03:16:42,790 --> 03:16:47,350
I hope you'll consider supporting us Muddley I

4905
03:16:47,350 --> 03:16:50,250
hope you'll consider supporting How about this?

4906
03:16:50,310 --> 03:16:51,350
That's just propaganda.

4907
03:16:51,550 --> 03:16:51,870
Come on.

4908
03:16:51,890 --> 03:16:52,470
That's loud.

4909
03:16:52,590 --> 03:16:55,910
That's proud Propaganda we're not doing propaganda on

4910
03:16:55,910 --> 03:16:58,270
the show just propaganda, but it's not about

4911
03:16:58,270 --> 03:16:59,110
just it's of course.

4912
03:16:59,250 --> 03:17:01,310
We're not propaganda That's just propaganda.

4913
03:17:01,310 --> 03:17:02,430
It's the best ISO.

4914
03:17:02,610 --> 03:17:07,670
It sounds the best And it's insulting, okay,

4915
03:17:07,730 --> 03:17:08,590
what do you want then?

4916
03:17:09,110 --> 03:17:10,890
Well, did you get that's the only choice

4917
03:17:10,890 --> 03:17:11,590
we've got really?

4918
03:17:13,030 --> 03:17:14,110
What we have no choice.

4919
03:17:14,230 --> 03:17:16,510
What was the first one the first one

4920
03:17:16,510 --> 03:17:17,950
the first one was?

4921
03:17:19,610 --> 03:17:23,050
And it's too long these guys are smart

4922
03:17:23,050 --> 03:17:25,790
they're hard-working they're motivated they want more

4923
03:17:25,790 --> 03:17:28,570
more But you know if you took they

4924
03:17:28,570 --> 03:17:30,470
want more and more off it'd be perfect.

4925
03:17:30,630 --> 03:17:31,930
These guys are smart.

4926
03:17:32,170 --> 03:17:32,930
They're hard-working.

4927
03:17:33,010 --> 03:17:35,030
They're motivated They want more more.

4928
03:17:35,050 --> 03:17:36,490
Okay, I could take that I could I

4929
03:17:36,490 --> 03:17:37,870
could edit them and just make sure me

4930
03:17:37,870 --> 03:17:40,510
I can edit that Yeah, it's shorter and

4931
03:17:40,510 --> 03:17:40,690
better.

4932
03:17:40,830 --> 03:17:41,390
It'll be like this.

4933
03:17:41,450 --> 03:17:42,610
These guys are smart.

4934
03:17:42,690 --> 03:17:43,570
They're hard-working.

4935
03:17:43,670 --> 03:17:45,530
They're motivated right there.

4936
03:17:45,610 --> 03:17:49,990
Boom Hey before we do anything it's time

4937
03:17:49,990 --> 03:18:00,870
for John's tip of the day Yeah,

4938
03:18:02,790 --> 03:18:08,490
I have a website selection That's very valuable

4939
03:18:08,490 --> 03:18:10,370
for people who like to at least see

4940
03:18:10,370 --> 03:18:12,530
who's talking to him We're sending him email

4941
03:18:12,530 --> 03:18:14,370
or anything and it's the best of the

4942
03:18:14,370 --> 03:18:14,590
group.

4943
03:18:14,750 --> 03:18:15,950
There's a bunch of these things as he

4944
03:18:15,950 --> 03:18:22,110
IP location net Okay, what kind of thing

4945
03:18:22,110 --> 03:18:27,070
is this that's interesting IP location net yeah,

4946
03:18:27,110 --> 03:18:29,950
and it it it tells you where it's

4947
03:18:29,950 --> 03:18:34,670
basically a Finds your IP address that you

4948
03:18:34,670 --> 03:18:36,090
put an IP address and it tells you

4949
03:18:36,090 --> 03:18:37,950
where you are But it doesn't just do

4950
03:18:37,950 --> 03:18:40,690
it with one source It's actually a meta

4951
03:18:40,690 --> 03:18:42,750
site that looks at a bunch of different

4952
03:18:42,750 --> 03:18:43,170
sources.

4953
03:18:43,330 --> 03:18:47,190
So you get a bunch of possibilities Okay,

4954
03:18:47,390 --> 03:18:48,710
so is it gonna fight so is it

4955
03:18:48,710 --> 03:18:51,230
going to find my my address now Yeah,

4956
03:18:51,310 --> 03:18:52,690
as soon as you load it, it will

4957
03:18:52,690 --> 03:18:54,350
give you your address immediately.

4958
03:18:54,590 --> 03:18:55,450
Let's see how it does.

4959
03:18:55,510 --> 03:18:57,750
Okay So let me paste this in here.

4960
03:18:57,930 --> 03:18:59,370
Let me see IP lookup.

4961
03:18:59,930 --> 03:19:02,350
Oh Wait, I didn't do it IP location

4962
03:19:02,350 --> 03:19:02,770
net.

4963
03:19:03,070 --> 03:19:03,190
Yeah.

4964
03:19:03,310 --> 03:19:04,850
No, I'm that I know but I'm clicking

4965
03:19:04,850 --> 03:19:07,710
the button I'm quick says I'm in Greatwood,

4966
03:19:07,870 --> 03:19:13,630
Texas awesome I Now put it somebody else's

4967
03:19:13,630 --> 03:19:16,050
IP address and it'll give you like eight

4968
03:19:16,050 --> 03:19:18,870
selections and whether there's six Oh, I hold

4969
03:19:18,870 --> 03:19:19,390
on a second.

4970
03:19:19,610 --> 03:19:19,710
Now.

4971
03:19:19,830 --> 03:19:21,330
This one says I'm in Kyle.

4972
03:19:21,450 --> 03:19:22,850
This one says I'm in Dallas.

4973
03:19:23,050 --> 03:19:24,070
Oh Fredericksburg.

4974
03:19:24,250 --> 03:19:24,710
There it is.

4975
03:19:24,770 --> 03:19:27,090
Okay All right, one of the we got

4976
03:19:27,090 --> 03:19:30,850
we got a sugar land hmm Interesting in

4977
03:19:30,850 --> 03:19:33,810
most cases it's all the same but some

4978
03:19:33,810 --> 03:19:36,810
flaky IP guys that you know Since they're

4979
03:19:36,810 --> 03:19:38,710
all over the place, I don't know what

4980
03:19:38,710 --> 03:19:39,750
network you're on.

4981
03:19:40,130 --> 03:19:42,410
They'll give you some estimates I don't like

4982
03:19:42,410 --> 03:19:43,590
flaky IP guys.

4983
03:19:43,650 --> 03:19:44,670
Those guys are no good.

4984
03:19:44,870 --> 03:19:46,250
No, all right.

4985
03:19:46,290 --> 03:19:52,330
Well, it's a flaky IP calm No agenda

4986
03:19:52,330 --> 03:19:54,950
fun calm for all of John's tips Great

4987
03:20:02,910 --> 03:20:04,750
Created by Dana Burnett II that's right.

4988
03:20:04,910 --> 03:20:05,870
They are good tips.

4989
03:20:05,930 --> 03:20:07,850
These are tips that are handy you can

4990
03:20:07,850 --> 03:20:12,450
use them anywhere collect all 1,000 and

4991
03:20:12,450 --> 03:20:19,170
win the bonus prize code Bungino Coming up

4992
03:20:19,170 --> 03:20:21,070
next on your no agenda stream or if

4993
03:20:21,070 --> 03:20:23,130
you're using one of those modern podcast apps

4994
03:20:23,130 --> 03:20:26,070
We've got Tony Heller Tony Heller.

4995
03:20:26,230 --> 03:20:27,490
I've never heard of Tony Heller.

4996
03:20:27,650 --> 03:20:30,810
Oh, oh It's it's a Grimerica show.

4997
03:20:30,970 --> 03:20:32,250
There you go Grimerica.

4998
03:20:32,310 --> 03:20:34,110
We love the boys over there Grimerica.

4999
03:20:34,170 --> 03:20:39,170
They're good Also end of show mixes we've

5000
03:20:39,170 --> 03:20:42,350
got melody we got Judd Hawley These are

5001
03:20:42,350 --> 03:20:44,630
all real mixes by the way and Norad

5002
03:20:44,630 --> 03:20:46,570
all real music.

5003
03:20:46,610 --> 03:20:51,710
No AI No joke No gyp because we're

5004
03:20:51,710 --> 03:20:55,830
no agenda, baby On Thursday you get the

5005
03:20:55,830 --> 03:20:58,810
best of Adam and John's exit strategies more

5006
03:20:58,810 --> 03:21:01,570
than two hours You're gonna love it guaranteed

5007
03:21:01,570 --> 03:21:03,670
until then coming to you from the heart

5008
03:21:03,670 --> 03:21:05,590
of the Texas Hill Country right here in

5009
03:21:05,590 --> 03:21:09,730
Fredericksburg, Texas Close to Kyle and Sugarland in

5010
03:21:09,730 --> 03:21:10,510
the morning everybody.

5011
03:21:10,670 --> 03:21:13,610
I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley

5012
03:21:13,610 --> 03:21:14,890
where it's finally warming up.

5013
03:21:14,930 --> 03:21:16,030
I can see San Francisco.

5014
03:21:16,170 --> 03:21:18,370
I'm John C We return on Thursday for

5015
03:21:18,370 --> 03:21:20,830
that best of our exit strategies until then

5016
03:21:20,830 --> 03:22:00,450
adios mofos a hui hui and The

5017
03:22:08,170 --> 03:22:14,590
right thing stop spreading these lies stop spreading

5018
03:22:14,590 --> 03:22:24,230
these lies Stop spreading these lies Do the

5019
03:22:24,230 --> 03:22:24,750
right thing?

5020
03:22:30,770 --> 03:22:37,170
Some people are afraid of the weather Some

5021
03:22:37,170 --> 03:22:43,270
need an excuse to stay home Some people

5022
03:22:43,270 --> 03:22:48,630
come in boring But I've got to got

5023
03:22:48,630 --> 03:22:55,010
to escape the heat The new shows talk

5024
03:22:55,010 --> 03:23:00,330
about me baby say I'm doing it wrong

5025
03:23:04,170 --> 03:23:11,510
But don't you worry baby Staying right here

5026
03:23:15,810 --> 03:23:19,890
I'm a lover and a weak swimmer.

5027
03:23:21,170 --> 03:23:25,950
Can't play my music in the sun I'm

5028
03:23:25,950 --> 03:23:30,410
a joker crack smoker gonna be much broker

5029
03:24:00,490 --> 03:24:07,010
The government wants that In the water making

5030
03:24:07,010 --> 03:24:08,910
brothers sick and crazy they're complacent to the

5031
03:24:08,910 --> 03:24:11,030
bargain basement politician shady in the way to

5032
03:24:11,030 --> 03:24:12,790
treat the people It is certainly no maybe

5033
03:24:12,790 --> 03:24:14,210
that the end of my control, which is

5034
03:24:14,210 --> 03:24:15,610
why Florida's KG We

5035
03:24:15,610 --> 03:24:25,530
know that Martin

5036
03:24:25,530 --> 03:24:26,490
Luther King jr.

5037
03:24:26,850 --> 03:24:28,650
Was shot, but what media don't tell us

5038
03:24:28,650 --> 03:24:30,730
is the government plot They expecting us to

5039
03:24:30,730 --> 03:24:31,050
beat them.

5040
03:24:31,190 --> 03:24:32,770
Listen full of brain rot that might fool

5041
03:24:32,770 --> 03:24:34,690
a lot of folk, but to me nah

5042
03:24:34,690 --> 03:24:36,990
CIA and MKUltra taking control of our minds

5043
03:24:36,990 --> 03:24:39,530
So they're complacent, indecent, sarcastic governmental crimes on

5044
03:24:39,530 --> 03:24:41,350
mainstream media Bought by spooks who tell them

5045
03:24:41,350 --> 03:24:42,730
what to decide So they gaslight with straw

5046
03:24:42,730 --> 03:24:44,130
men which is why the news is KG

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Have you heard the news?

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government wants that money You These

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guys are smart they're hard-working they're motivated