The sorrows, the sorrows, the sorrows, the sorrows!
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Sunday, June 15, 2025.
This is your award-winning Gimbal Nation Media
assassination episode 1773.
This is no agenda.
No kings, no queens, no nukes!
And broadcasting live from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number
16 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry, and from Northern Silicon Valley,
where we want to bring back the Fish
Witch.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
It's Craig Robin Boskill in the morning!
The what now?
Fish Witch.
Fish Witch?
Is that like a sandwich, only stinky?
It's a sandwich made from fish.
Fish Witch, whatever happened to that term?
I've never even heard this term.
You've never heard of a Fish Witch?
That's why it needs to be brought back.
No, of course.
Yeah, it was a very popular term in
the, I don't know when.
The only fish sandwich I know is the
Filet-O-Fish.
Yeah, the Fish Witch.
It used to be called the Fish Witch.
No, it's never been called the Fish Witch.
Everybody out there, tell him he's wrong again.
You're making this up.
I wish.
Tell him he's wrong again.
Tell him he's wrong.
He's wrong.
Hey, happy Father's Day, John.
Happy Father's Day.
Same to you.
You're the father.
You're a father?
Yeah, we're both fathers.
How about that?
Woo!
Did you get any socks?
You know what?
I've had you notice, there's no more Father's
Gifts anymore.
Now that you mention it, I haven't gotten
a Father's Day gift forever.
Yeah.
I don't remember ever getting a Father's Day
gift.
Maybe a tie.
No, I don't think so.
No.
These days, it's like a text and maybe
a tweet.
Maybe a tweet.
Or an Insta post.
Because it's the patriarchy.
I love my daddy.
I said so on Instagram.
It's the truth.
Socks.
That's the best gift.
Socks.
Well, you were going to give your grandson
socks for his birthday.
I know, and I bailed out on the
idea.
I saved you from embarrassment.
One of our— In fact, I should put
this as tip of the day.
One of our producers came up and— There's
an American sock company that makes these socks.
They're super expensive, like 15 to 20 bucks
a pair.
Wow.
But lifetime guarantee.
You get a hole in them.
You send them back, you get a new
pair.
Really now?
I thought that was a— If you start
doing the calculation on this, it might not
be a bad idea.
Yeah, because I— Except for then I realized
there's one problem.
What's that?
The socks that go missing.
You're always missing what we're— You can't send
back just one sock.
You have to send back two.
Is that the deal?
I don't know if you have to send
back— No, you probably just send back one.
But what good does one sock do you?
No, but if you just send back one,
then you can get two pair for one
pair.
Send back a sock and say, Hey, look,
this is no good.
And you send back the other sock later,
you get two pairs for one.
Seems like— If the sock's bad, they're going
to repair it no matter what.
I will say I've seen a remarkable decline
in the quality of socks.
I have these— Yes, I agree.
Smart wool socks, which Tina got me, which
I like, but they don't last.
They do not last.
And you're putting them on, there goes the
hole in the heel.
You know, Day Master— There's no reason to
ever have a hole in the heel.
Holes in the toe, I can— You can
see if you got a toenail, you never
cut it right or it's jagged in the
inside of the sock.
But the heel?
No, I'm telling you— How do you get
a hole in the heel?
I have the same thing with— I got
socks with holes in the heel.
How does that work?
It's no good.
This is the nature of this show, ladies
and gentlemen.
We're not talking about socks.
I will say, Day Master, when she and
Sir Mark were over visiting Fredericksburg, it was
an interesting gift.
She gave me three pairs of socks.
And they all have the Japanese, you know,
red circle on them, kind of like the
flag.
And they are the most comfortable, sturdy socks
I have seen in a while.
I need to ask her what they're called.
Track them down, make a tip of the
day.
Sock tip of the day.
Yeah, really, really good socks.
People, you know, socks just aren't appreciated the
way they used to be.
Socks, big deal.
Everyone just buys them at Costco.
So, of course, everything happens on show days.
Oh, we had— it's been a great couple
of days.
We've had a shooting up in Minnesota.
We've had the bombing of Iran.
We had the bombing of Israel.
We had the whole thing with our joker
senator, poor Jeffries, I wanted to talk about.
The guy who charged Christy Noem at the
press conference and they got busted by the
cops.
He was forced to his knees like a
slave.
He was forced to his knees like a
slave.
And I had a theory I talked to
you about that I wanted to bring out
on the show.
Do you have a clip so you can
kick into this theory?
I don't have a clip of it.
Because, you know, nobody cares.
Just so you know, nobody cares.
It's gone.
I'd still have to bring the theory out.
Okay, but all people want right now is,
what's going on?
What's going on with Iran?
What's going on?
World War III?
Yeah, we're going to get to that.
There's no doubt about it.
That's a tease.
The point is that all these other things
that were going on are just pushed aside.
And this guy's got to feel like the
most unlucky character.
This guy is a senator from California no
one ever heard of, Padilla.
And my thesis is the following.
Gavin Newsom's not going to run for president
in 2028 because he's got the stench of
his lousy job he's done in California that
will get him nowhere with the party.
Because they'll just eat him alive at the
end of debates.
But he's going to be out of office
in 2027, I think.
Or 26.
So he's going to be out.
He's got to do something to stay in
the limelight.
He's got to do something to stay in
there.
So the only thing he can do is
run for the U.S. Senate in 2028,
which is Padilla's seat is up.
So Padilla has gotten wind of the fact
that...
So wait, you mean this was a show?
No.
Gambling?
It was a little show.
Oh, interesting.
So Padilla has to do something to get
his profile up because no one's ever heard
of him.
He won't have a chance against Gavin Newsom.
Again, Newsom will take his seat in the
Senate and then he'll be able to take
pot shots at the president.
And then he can run in 2036, which
is the worst case scenario for him.
Best case scenario could be even before then,
2032.
But he can redeem himself with the Olympic
Games.
He could do something really awesome.
Well, it won't help.
And they'll probably screw it up.
So let's assume it's going to screw it
up.
But so anyway, but he's going to...
So he'll run for the Padilla seat in
2028.
And Padilla has to kind of maybe move
over because it was, I think, Nat Newsom
who appointed Padilla into the vacated seat for
Feinstein.
Okay.
And so we had Barbara Boxer and Dianne
Feinstein.
And then when they left, we had these
doofuses running.
We should put women back.
And so Newsom needs to run for Senate
so he can go to Washington, D.C.
with his wife.
And he can make a fuss there and
people will forget what a screw up he
is.
And he'll be a legislator.
And so he can run for president.
This whole thing.
So Padilla got wind of this.
This is no good.
I'm not going to be able to get
kicked out.
And so he makes a big fuss, try
to get some publicity.
And then boom, they bomb Iran.
I mean, this guy's hopeless.
I have a clue.
California Democratic Senator Alex Padilla spoke out shortly
after he was forcibly removed from a Department
of Homeland Security news conference about ICE immigration
raids in Los Angeles.
If this is how the Department of Homeland
Security responds to a senator with a question,
you can only imagine what they're doing to
farm workers, to cuts, to day laborers.
Out in the Los Angeles community and throughout
California and throughout the country.
Lawmakers on Capitol Hill reacted to the incident
during which Padilla was detained after he audibly
identified himself as a senator.
There can be no justification of seeing a
senator forced to their knees, laid flat on
the ground, their hands twisted behind their back
and being put into restraints.
It is beneath the U.S. senator.
They're supposed to lead by example, and that
is not a good example.
We have to turn the temperature down in
this country and not escalate it.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Well, so that was a nice little bit
of theater that went nowhere.
Well, it was theater.
And he never, he didn't have his badge
on, which they're supposed to carry to identify
themselves as senators.
He mentioned that he was a senator as
they were dragging him off.
I saw the whole thing.
It's bullcrap.
Yeah.
And this guy, Alex, can't even remember his
first name half the time.
This guy is, and if you listen to
him, he's just no good.
He's a weak-sounding kind of a beta
male.
He doesn't have a prayer against Newsom, but
he's done.
All right.
Let me get us into it with a
little bit of background here from CBS and
Operation Rising Lion.
Moments ago, Israel launched Operation Rising Lion.
He even says it that way.
Rising Lion.
A targeted military operation to roll back the
Iranian threat to Israel's very survival.
This operation will continue for as many days
as it takes to remove this threat.
Netanyahu said Iran, which has long threatened to
eliminate Israel, has produced enough highly enriched uranium
for nine atom bombs, adding that in recent
months, Iran has taken steps to weaponize the
nuclear material.
We struck at the heart of Iran's nuclear
enrichment program.
We struck at the heart of Iran's nuclear
weaponization program.
We targeted Iran's main enrichment facility in Natanz.
We targeted Iran's leading nuclear scientists working on
the Iranian bomb.
We also struck at the heart of Iran's
ballistic missile program.
The White House released a statement from Secretary
of State Marco Rubio saying Israel's action against
Iran is unilateral and the U.S. is
not involved in the strikes.
The statement says, quote, President Trump and the
administration have taken all necessary steps to protect
our forces and remain in close contact with
our regional partners.
Let me be clear.
Iran should not target U.S. interests or
personnel.
Yes, and remember, they are just days away
from a nuclear bomb.
Just days and days away.
There's a lot going on here and a
lot of different angles.
I think there's certainly one that is not
being discussed.
But let's just get a quick background on
the strikes themselves, which seemed extremely targeted.
Israel's Mossad intelligence agency carried out a multi
-pronged covert operation deep inside Iran, using advanced
systems and explosive drones to strike multiple targets
overnight, sources told Euronews.
Mossad deployed systems equipped with precision-guided weaponry
deep inside Iranian territory, a source from Israeli
intelligence told Euronews on condition of anonymity.
These systems were activated as the Israeli military
offensive began, launching precision-guided missiles at pre
-selected targets.
In a separate operation, Mossad secretly installed strike
systems designed to neutralize Iranian air defenses that,
according to Israel, posed a threat to its
fighter jets.
A third operation was mounted in which Mossad
established a base for launching explosive drones deep
inside Iran.
During the attack, these drones were launched from
that base towards a nearby military installation.
So there are a couple of things that
were kind of lost in our stellar mainstream
reporting here at the M5M.
One is the people of the streets of
Tehran cheering, who were happy that this was
taking place.
Multiple, even Forbes had, but no one has
any report.
It's just video of people going out.
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's get those suckers.
The only report I could find of who
was targeted comes from France Banketra.
Iran's nuclear program and its top tier of
military commanders and nuclear scientists, all targeted by
Israel in one night of airstrikes.
General Hussein Salami is among those killed by
the strikes in Tehran.
With his death confirmed by Iranian media, leader
of the Revolutionary Guards Corps since 2019, Salami
was responsible for securing Iran's borders and safeguarding
it against any foreign attacks.
His forces control Iran's missile arsenal and he
was one of the pillars of the regime.
Known for his fiery rhetoric against the United
States and its allies Israel and Saudi Arabia,
he played a key role in suppressing the
internal protests of 2019 and 2022.
Also killed was Mohammad Barheri, chief of the
staff of the armed forces since 2016.
He's one of the Islamic Republic's most senior
officers and the driving force behind Iran's ballistic
missile program.
Another military loss has been Ghulam Ali Rashid,
deputy chief of staff and the commander of
the Khatam al-Anbiya central headquarters, tasked with
the military operational decision-making.
Salami, Barheri and Rashid were long-term members
of the Revolutionary Guards and fought in the
Iran-Iraq war.
Iranian media and senior officials have also reported
the death of Ali Shamkhani, the senior former
navy commander and one of Iran's most influential
politicians, was a confidant of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
According to several sources, at least six nuclear
scientists were killed, including Fereydoun Abassi and Mohammad
Mehdi Taranji.
The death of these high-profile figures shows
the sheer scale of the Israeli operation.
Iranian Revolutionary Guards have vowed to take revenge
after the death of their leader.
So, you know, everyone focused on the nuclear,
nuclear, nuclear, the nuclear scientists, but there's a
lot of leadership there that got taken out.
Yeah, all military, no civilian.
Well, I don't know if I'm sure there
can always be civilian casualties, but these were
the guys...
No, but civilian leadership, they didn't target them.
No.
I ended up watching the analysis of the
Middle East Forum guys who were on YouTube
streaming.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I wonder if we came to the same
conclusion.
What did you see?
They talked about this thing being large, possibly
a catalyst for regime change.
You sound like a black woman there.
And the guys there and on the MEF,
they all knew every single guy.
And they also talked about how they, since
the revolution in 1979, it's been 46 years.
And so you end up with a generational
loss of excitement.
He says that everybody in the army and
every place else, one of these guys, the
better analysis guys, he says, they're just a
bunch of kids, slouches who hate it.
They hate it.
They go to the classes and listen to
the propaganda.
They don't believe a word of it.
Right.
If these guys are put in a situation
where they have to go to war, they're
not going to fight.
He says the whole thing is a house
of cards.
I mean, I don't think there's something very
different going on that is flabbergasting.
This is just no reporting on.
So there's a couple of different narratives.
The main one is nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear
weapons, nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons.
The other one, I even talked to a
buddy of mine who worked at Doge.
He's like, man, Israel's drawn us into a
war.
They're drawing us into a war.
I'm like, I don't know.
I even see some trolls like, I thought
America controlled Israel.
Well, they do.
That's exactly they do.
That's exactly right.
And even Tucker is on the wrong path.
Tonight, MAGA divided Donald Trump's support for Israel's
actions against Iran is splitting his own base,
pitting Israel hawks against those who fear the
United States is being pulled into an even
bigger regional fight.
But remember, when the president campaigned on this
message.
I will stop the chaos in the Middle
East, and I will prevent World War III.
I'm going to keep us out of World
War III.
We're not going to have World War III,
but I will prevent World War III.
Former Fox host Tucker Carlson sent Trump a
stern warning this morning in his newsletter, quote,
the United States should not at any level
participate in a war with Iran.
No funding, no American troops, no troops on
the ground.
Drop Israel, let them fight their own wars.
What happens next will define Donald Trump's presidency.
Well, I think he's really doing something quite
interesting that just nobody is.
I mean, I had to go to foreign
sources to get anything even close as to
what I think is really happening here.
And all this talk about nuclear war, there's
not going to be a nuclear war.
Israel's not going to drop a nuke, not
going to shoot a nuke from a sub.
That's not going to happen.
Iran has no nuclear weapons.
This is pew, pew, and they're taking out
leadership.
And I think you're right.
The talk of regime change is close and
for good reason.
There's one other thing that was not well
discussed.
I did catch this very short clip.
An Israeli drone strike has hit a natural
gas refinery in southern Iran, one of the
largest gas fields in the world.
The attack took place at Kangan Port.
That's a part of the South Pass gas
field, which is Iran's side of a joint
gas field shared with Qatar.
There was a huge fire at the port.
That gas field is crucial to Iran's gas
production and export capabilities.
Israel has been attacking military science, nuclear facilities
and civilian infrastructure for a second day now.
So that is a very strategic move to
take out the gas refinery or, you know,
when it comes to traditional resources, which Iran
has a lot of.
And there's reasons for this.
Even though we certainly discussed that Iran joined
the BRICS group last year, it hasn't really
been discussed much.
And it's odd, but I found a very
good overview of something that happened just 10
days ago on, I think it's the India
Times news.
So take the reporting, you know, the way
it's read.
But I thought that this really sums up
what's going on here and why there was
60-day negotiation.
Yeah, sure, it's about nuclear weapons, but that's
not all.
Trump wants to do a deal with Iran
because he wants to outsmart some other guys.
In a stunning geopolitical power play that could
reshape the balance of power in West Asia,
the first freight train from China has officially
arrived in Iran.
While this might sound like a simple trade
link, it's anything but that.
The railroad cuts through more than just land.
It slices through decades of American sanctions, power
projections and military dominance.
This is not just a train arriving in
a dry port near Tehran.
This is China and Iran punching a hole
through America's global influence.
The freight train traveling overland from Xi'an
in China to Ibran dry port in Iran.
The train journey slashes delivery time by half.
It bypasses sea routes like the Malacca Strait
and Red Sea, both under watchful Western naval
surveillance, and instead passes through Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan,
reaching Iran in just 15 days.
This railroad is a direct outcome of a
$400 billion economic deal signed in 2021.
A key part of China's ambitious Belt and
Road Initiative.
The goal, to build an economic corridor that
completely dodges the reach of the U.S.
Navy and any future sanctioned regime.
It's a masterstroke.
While Washington focuses on sea lanes and maritime
choke points, Beijing and Tehran have quietly laid
steel tracks where U.S. warships can't follow.
The arrival of this train doesn't just move
goods.
It moves the goalposts in the global power
game.
For China, this means a more secure energy
source, away from the Middle Eastern monarchies allied
with Washington.
For Iran, it's a pathway out of economic
isolation.
This new rail link also complements Iran's control
over the Strait of Hormuz.
It's a strategic chokepoint for global oil.
With China now entrenched in both Iranian oil
and trade, Beijing has extended its influence deep
into what was once considered America's exclusive zone
of influence.
Oh, shoot, shoot.
Here we are.
The train goes this way.
We load it up.
The train goes the other way.
You were telling me just the other day
that we've got tons of trains filled with
coal and then it gets put on the
ship, shipped over to China, to India, all
these places.
Yeah, we're shipping our coal over there.
We can't have that coming from Iran.
No, and yes.
No, and no, yes, they have incredible influence
over the shipping lanes and they're telling us
about it.
Iran's Revolutionary Guard commander said closing the Strait
of Hormuz is under consideration in response to
Israeli attacks.
But what could this mean for Europe?
The Strait of Hormuz is one of the
most strategically vital chokepoints in the world and
any blockade by Iran would pose serious risks
for Europe.
Roughly 20% of global oil and a
significant portion of natural gas pass through the
Strait.
If Iran blocks it, global oil prices would
spike and Europe could face energy shortages.
A sudden oil price surge would increase inflation,
energy costs and disrupt industries across Europe.
Manufacturing, transport and agriculture would be especially vulnerable.
Beyond oil, the Strait is a key route
for global shipping.
Disruption could delay European imports of raw materials.
A blockade could also trigger military confrontations involving
US or EU navies, risking a broader regional
war.
Now, knowing how we've always operated since the
Vietnam War, it's like we can't get American
boys and girls to go fight in the
desert again.
That's a non-starter.
So what do you do?
You tell the people who hate those other
people to go and do something.
So yes, we used our aircraft carrier in
the Middle East to launch some strikes.
I think it's more fun.
It's your people.
There's all kinds of destruction.
But taking out the leadership is what this
was about, weakening them so that we can
block what China is doing.
And this is the big game.
It's much bigger than Israel versus Iran and
Netanyahu.
What a pawn.
They always want to kill us.
Yeah, OK.
This is about whose money will be the
world currency, who has the resources, who sells
the resources, who is in charge of the
resources, meaning oil, gas, minerals.
And there's land.
And there's always some hooker involved somewhere.
It's always the same.
And so now everyone's talking about the multipolar
world.
The multipolar world.
Like Jeffrey Sachs.
Iran's Revolutionary Guard Command.
I'm sorry, this one.
We have a new arrangement of power because
these other parts of the world have made
a lot of economic and technological progress.
So China was a poor country 40 years
ago.
It is now a quite wealthy and technologically
advanced country.
I'd say it's at the cutting edge of
many of the most important technologies.
How did they get there?
Very hard work.
Very high investment rates.
Very good strategy.
Serious planning.
They thought ahead.
They worked hard at it and they were
successful.
They stole intellectual property.
The second fact is a basic.
Well, Sachs is not necessarily a good guy
in my opinion.
I would say if he doesn't drop that
little bombshell in there.
Which we kind of understood in the Cold
War and kind of forgot after 1991.
But it's a real truth every moment of
our lives.
And that is because of nuclear weapons and
because other countries have a lot of them.
We can't defeat those countries.
So the world's intrinsically multipolar in the sense
don't mess with another nuclear superpower can really
wreck your day.
And we forgot that after 1991.
Why 1991?
That was the year that the Soviet Union
dissolved into 15 states.
And the American elite said, okay, now we
really are all alone.
We are the world's sole superpower.
We treated Russia absolutely stupidly.
I abused our power, which was real.
But abused it to the point where we
ended up having a full-fledged war.
It's in a way a proxy war in
Ukraine.
Yeah, this is what the game is about.
I love the trolls now, John.
You'd love the trolls.
They're like, oh, the Jew money must have
come in to conquer this BS.
This is so funny.
Now they're just trolling for trolling.
Say some analysis clips when you want to
get.
Well, what is your thoughts on this really
being about China?
I mean, this is what I conclude.
I like the thesis.
It's not going to be brought up by
too many people.
Probably you're the only one.
But again, I think by pulling the clips
that only Noah Jenner can do from India
and other places that nobody else cares about,
you could piece it together.
And I think you make it work.
And I think the gas field, blown up
gas field, one of the biggest in the
world.
Someone might point out that the Chinese are
relying on.
They want to maybe bring some liquefied natural
gas over, whatever products they can get from
Iran.
Good catch.
Yeah, and I think I don't think it's
all about the Chinese, but I think I
think the Chinese insofar as the American perspective
and the fact that we're controlling the action,
no matter what anyone wants to believe.
And we let Israel think that they're, oh,
yeah, well, yeah, why don't you go?
OK.
And these analysis clips that I have will
actually kind of back that up because it's
like, especially this one guy, the ambassador to
the United States.
He is last, which would be the last
clip.
He just outlines the process that created the
the go ahead.
It's in other words, there was there had
to be a go ahead.
Because we already told them not to do
this in April.
Yeah, it needed a trick.
But again, this and then I want to
hear you close, but it boils down to
this.
Either America is running the show with our
money and our resources.
Or China runs the show.
And you don't really want China running the
show.
You worry about Peter Thiel and Palantir.
Wait until China takes over.
Oh, China's that you don't know.
You don't want China running the show.
They're not there.
They're good at what they do.
They're no good at running the show.
I mean, I'd rather have the Brits.
Brits over bricks, I tell you.
We talk about this at the dinner table
about how the Brits are, you know, they're
the ones that we've talked about on the
show.
They're the real.
I mean, that's where we get all our
skill sets for international management.
I've been to some of this.
I went to an IBM seminar once where
they did the whole thing was on international
management.
IBMers know how to do this.
The Brits know how to do it the
best.
They ran India that nobody else could run.
We couldn't do it.
They have a very interesting type of management
skill that nobody else can do.
And people don't the Indians still don't mind
the Brits.
They don't like us.
They might not like the Chinese, but the
Brits can do management at a highest international
level because of the nature of their empire
and how they formed it and how they
develop management skills that we copied from them.
The Chinese haven't got a clue.
The Chinese classic Chinese management is a Chinese
apartment building owner.
You pay now.
You know, and their whole idea of marketing,
you know, best price.
They're clueless.
They're horrible.
That's true.
It's not a friendly way of marketing.
I'm in full agreement.
Full agreement.
So we don't want the Chinese running everything.
They run themselves fine.
They're very good at managing large projects.
In fact, they can do that better than
I think anybody.
If you start looking at the history of
China and some of the stuff that happened
in the past where they had fleets of
5000 ships and they were well managed because
the Chinese can manage each other, but they
can't manage other cultures.
No.
And look at the mess.
You pay now.
I mean, that's.
Look at the mess.
Doesn't cut it.
The mess they make in Africa and Iran.
In Africa, they make a mess and they
know it.
And look, Iran is weak and President Trump,
he was doing the 60 day negotiation and
it wasn't just about nukes.
No, it's like, hey, stop that nonsense with
these Chinese.
We can't have that.
You just can't have it.
And it may sound like a dictator, but
yeah.
Pax Americana, baby.
We can't have that.
I understand exactly what he's doing.
And OK, you want to do that?
You don't want to talk.
All right.
And then he calls Netanyahu and then they
go in with the Mossad and their drones.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Israel's controlling us.
That's why the bombs are falling on Tel
Aviv.
Please, please, people.
That's a lost cause.
If people want to think that Israel runs
the world, they're they got to screw loose.
They all.
Don't you know about AIPAC?
Yeah, AIPAC controls Congress.
Absolutely.
But where do we control AIPAC?
Where does AIPAC money come from?
It comes from the American Israeli Education Foundation.
That's where.
Go look at the Form 990.
I did it.
It all comes from Raytheon, Boeing.
It's the military-industrial complex.
Eisenhower did not warn for the Jewish-Israeli
industrial complex.
No, he warned us for the military-industrial
complex.
I think you should stop beating this up.
I won't.
Why would I?
We did the same with COVID.
We did the same with Ukraine.
Why?
Because it's fruitless.
It's not fruitless.
You'll never convert those the people that think
that way.
You're an idealist.
I am an idealist.
One topic.
I am.
And you know what?
It's never about the people.
The people, the Iranians, they don't want this
nonsense.
The Israelis, they don't want this nonsense.
And we certainly don't want this.
And I doubt the Chinese people want it
either.
This is big game.
Big cojones.
We'll see how it goes.
So far, no bombs dropped on America.
Feeling pretty good.
Let's play this.
This is one of the analysis pieces from
PBS.
This is the standalone one says Iran-Israel
anal.
And for a wider perspective, we turn now
to Wendy Sherman, who was the lead negotiator
for the nuclear agreement with Iran during the
Obama administration.
She served as U.S. Deputy Secretary of
State during the Biden administration and is currently
a senior fellow at Harvard's Kennedy School of
Government.
And Vali Nasser is a professor of International
Affairs and Middle East Studies at the Johns
Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies.
And he's also the author of Iran's Grand
Strategy, A Political History.
Our thanks to you both for joining us.
Wendy Sherman, we'll start with you.
The U.S. says it was not involved
in Israel's strikes against Iran's nuclear sites.
But is this attack, in your view, is
it aligned with U.S. interests?
Or does it introduce new and unpredictable risks
for U.S. forces and regional stability?
I think it certainly introduces a lot of
risk for all of the military personnel, some
40,000 in the region and the hundreds
of thousands of Americans in Israel, as well
as in the wider region.
There is no question that all of us
don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
That was the whole reason that President Obama
asked Secretary Clinton, Secretary Kerry and myself to
work hard to get a joint comprehensive plan
of action with Iran to put constraints on
its nuclear program.
Donald Trump in his first term as president,
as you know, in 2018, pulled out of
that deal.
I don't think we'd be where we are
today if that hadn't happened.
Yeah, we'd have a nuclear armed Iran if
it hadn't happened.
Exactly.
This is somebody serving her own purposes.
Well, she's from Johns Hopkins, what do you
expect?
What do you expect?
It was a terror, so PBS is useless.
But they did bring in the ambassador from
Israel.
He was making the rounds, the ambassador.
He was all over the news today.
That's what you do.
He was all over the news today.
We can play his, I got three clips
from him.
And the last one is the only good
one, but we'll play the clip one.
For more on Israel's goals and what comes
next, we're joined now by the Israeli ambassador
to the U.S., Yechiel Leiter.
Ambassador Leiter, welcome back to the NewsHour.
Thank you for joining us.
Thank you, Amna.
It's good to be with you.
I want to begin by asking you about
the latest we're seeing of the extraordinary Iranian
missile attacks unfolding over Tel Aviv at this
moment.
As we speak, what can you tell us
about the latest on the ground?
What kind of damage has been inflicted so
far in Israel?
Well, we know at present there are 35
people injured right outside of Tel Aviv, two
critically.
We're praying for their survival.
Iran has a very large array of ballistic
missiles.
They have fired them in the past, both
in April and in October.
At that time, we were able to intercept
them.
Several have gotten through this time, a total
of 85 in this barrage.
These are huge missiles.
Huge.
And we do have sustained injuries.
U.S. officials said today that the U
.S. military is helping to intercept some of
those Iranian missiles.
Are you expecting U.S. forces to participate
more deeply than that when it comes to
defending Israel?
Is that something that Prime Minister Netanyahu and
President Trump spoke about today?
The United States has had our back both
in April and October.
There are anti-aircraft missiles that have been
set in the Middle East to help support
our Iron Dome system.
This is a barrage of dozens of missiles
all at the same time, and it needs
a support system.
And we're very, very thankful for the defensive
posture that the United States has taken now
for a third time in helping to prevent
these missiles from exacting dramatic damage on our
civilian population.
Yeah, that Iron Dome seems a bit buggy.
You know, I do remember the Scud days.
The Scud Stud, of course I do.
The Scud Stud, yes.
And the Scuds were going up.
I went and visited Israel a year after
that event.
And everybody in Israel said the Patriot missiles
hit nothing.
And the only thing that was blowing up
up there is the Scuds were such junk
that when they were reaching their apogee, they
just fall apart.
Everybody said.
The Scuds.
So, okay, part two.
We have to erase this threat to our
existence.
This is not a border dispute.
This is a threat to our existence.
And they make no secret about it.
The Iranian regime has made a very concrete
plan.
It's actually a printed plan in which calls
for the destruction of the state of Israel.
And that's not something we can live with.
For us, it's existential.
We saw Prime Minister Netanyahu say that obviously
part of the goal here is preventing Iran
from becoming nuclear armed.
But we also heard him speak directly to
the Iranian people.
He said, we're also clearing the path for
you to achieve your freedom.
This is your opportunity to stand up and
let your voices be heard.
Ambassador, is regime change in Iran part of
the goal here?
Well, it's not part of our goal.
If it facilitates the goal of the Iranian
people, that's fine.
But regimes have to be determined by the
people.
That's how the democratic process works.
So we don't focus on regime change.
We want militarization change.
We want the annihilationist ideology of the regime
to change.
If the Iranian people rise up as they've
tried to do in the past and change
their regime, that's for them to decide, not
for us to decide.
Yeah, well, of course.
I like the annihilationist, I think is a
nice term that he threw in.
Now, there was an interesting point he made
in there, which has been brought up.
It hasn't gotten a lot of play, but
it came and went.
This is the printed plan.
Now, this falls in kind of in line
with your thinking about China.
There's, you know, they keep claiming and saying,
and I believe it's probably true that the
Iranians would like to get a nuke any
minute.
Yeah, happening soon.
Amen.
And they couldn't.
And they, you know, they just kept saying,
well, you know, we're not, that's not what
we're trying to do here.
And yeah, you are.
And so then about, I think it was
about six months to a year ago, whenever
it was, there was a raid at some
place that got blowed up.
And they found a printed plan.
They found a printed plan, which is what
he mentioned.
And it was a printed plan.
They had the entire outline of what they
were, how they're going to get to a
nuclear weapon and ballistic missiles.
And they're going to, you know, own the
area.
And this printed plan was brought to the
fore.
I think it was even brought in front
of the United Nations.
It's quite possible that this, because for one
thing, you can't go on and on about
how unbelievable the Mossad is, how they've penetrated
this and that.
And the other thing in Iran with all
their spies, you can't say that they're that
great.
And then make no assumption that the printed
plan could be bullcrap.
Planted by the Mossad, planted by us.
The CIA could have read the whole thing.
Very carefully structured printed plan that just coincidentally,
they found in a blowed up place.
Like a passport found near the Twin Towers.
Yeah, the passport found near the Twin Towers.
So you have to make the assumption that
there's a printed plan that was just coincidentally
found in this spot.
It could be bullcrap and there is no
printed plan, but it's something they're using as
leverage because the whole thing seems to be,
you know, it's just well, it's too well
structured.
I mean, it doesn't help that, you know,
bombs are flying every which way and people
are getting killed, but I'm skeptical about a
lot of this stuff.
But I think he wraps it up with
how this all got triggered in the third
clip.
As you know, there were ongoing talks between
the US and Iran to restrict their nuclear
program when Israel struck Iran.
There was another round scheduled for this Sunday.
Do you want to see those talks move
forward?
Do you have confidence that they could reach
a deal?
We'd like to see the talks move forward,
but we're not confident that the Iranians will
come around to a deal.
We were skeptical from the outset.
We encourage the talks because it's important to
try to pursue a path of negotiation rather
than a military one.
But the fact of the matter is that
the Iranians are ideologically and theologically committed to
destroying Israel and they have no intention whatsoever
of drawing back their nuclear program, nuclear weaponization
program.
Look, the fact of the matter is that
the president of the United States gave the
Iranians 60 days.
Yesterday was the 61st day.
It's over, number one.
Number two, the IAEA issued a scathing report.
This is not an Israeli report.
This is an international atomic agency report, which
basically indicted the Iranian regime for violations and
for the development of a nuclear weapons program.
And we see, this is the most important
point, Amna, we see in our intel that
they're racing forward to achieve the weaponization of
enriched uranium.
That means a nuclear bomb that changes the
world.
And for us, it changes the entire equation
because it endangers our very existence.
We can't live with that.
I think the whole nuclear bomb thing is
just a ploy.
Everyone be afraid, be afraid, be afraid.
Nuclear bomb Irans, they're just days away, weeks
away.
Any moment now, they're going to nuclear bomb.
No, we're totally going to spark regime change.
I'm not quite sure what the mechanism's going
to be, but it seems like the Iranians
are ready for it.
And well, according to the MEP guys, the
Middle East Forum, MEF, Middle East Forum guys,
they say that the way it's structured right
now, that Khomeini, the guys running the show,
the grand pooba, he's seen as being very
weak because of the bombing that took place.
There was no protection for the civilians and
there's bombs flying every which way.
And now they've lost faith in the grand
wizard and his group of mullahs.
And everybody thinks that they're ripe to be
overthrown and be hung by the yardarm.
And if there's going to be any other
military intervention, I can tell you who's next.
You know, Saudi Arabia, Trump was just over
there.
Hey, I got some stuff for you guys.
Didn't he, didn't he just sell them like
a whole bunch of death defying rockets?
Didn't we have a clip on that?
You think the Saudis would invade Iran?
No, no, no.
Lob some stuff over.
They've been fighting Iran forever.
Maybe.
They've been fighting Iran forever.
I know the proxy war with Saudi Arabia
and Iran was the Houthi war.
Yeah.
In South Yemen.
Yeah, but it's still proxy war.
It's still against, let me see.
I think I have this clip.
Let me see.
United States president Donald Trump wrapped up his
Middle East tour on Friday that saw him
visit Saudi Arabia, Qatar and was the last
stop in the United Arab Emirates.
In this first visit to the UAE by
US president since 2008, the two countries pledged
to strengthen ties and announced deals totaling over
$200 billion.
This includes a partnership with the UAE to
build a massive AI data center in its
capital Abu Dhabi and for the Gulf state
to buy advanced AI semiconductors from US companies.
I'm sure there was bombs in there.
Its anti-had airways is said it'll buy
28 US-made Boeing aircraft in a deal
worth $14.5 billion while Abu Dhabi, the
UAE's capital, pledged to hike the value of
its energy investments in the US to $440
billion in the next decade.
The four-day trip was very much focused
on business and resulted in a string of
lucrative deals for both Washington and the three
countries.
Trump aborted Air Force One in Abu Dhabi.
I thought that we had a clip somewhere
where he sold like a whole bunch of
these killer missiles.
Well, maybe, but the point is, I think
he went there in the first place to
soften them up for this attack by Israel
because he had to set that up in
advance to make sure it wasn't going to
go sideways.
Meanwhile, of course, the usual suspects are jumping
up and down.
Mr. Military Industrial Complex himself, or should I
say Mrs., Lady G.
Game on, everybody.
It's game on.
It's South Carolina.
Don't they have Boeing?
Isn't that like the big military production state?
I believe there is a Boeing plant in
South Carolina.
But have a look at what— This is,
I think, this is your Kirsten Welker with,
I think, Rand Paul.
Let me see.
But have a look at what Senator Lindsey
Graham argues should happen if Iran does not
come to the negotiating table.
He says, quote, if Iran refuses this offer
of the United States, I strongly believe it
is in America's national security interest to go
all in to help Israel finish the job.
How do you respond to Senator Graham's call
to go all in and help Israel finish
the job, Senator?
Well, his initial response was game on.
And I don't consider war to be a
game.
The hundreds of thousands of people that potentially
will now die on both sides.
You know, for a couple thousand years, we've
had this discussion over what is just war.
Not only our civilization, but other civilizations have
had this discussion.
And one of the things that many people
came to a conclusion was that preemptive or
preventative war wasn't just.
And so there is that.
But there is also the idea that what
happens to Iran, you imagine what happens in
Iran now.
Do they coalesce around their government, even though
their government is unpopular?
Does nationalism thrive?
And you would think that they would probably
be less likely to want to negotiate at
this time, particularly when they may feel that
negotiations were a ruse to put them at
ease until the bombing happened.
So I think it's going to be very
hard to come out of this and have
a negotiated settlement.
I see more war and more carnage.
And it's not the U.S.'s job to
be involved in this war.
Iraq was a mess.
Afghanistan was a mess.
And one of the things I like about
President Trump is he has shown restraint.
And so I think his instincts are to
not be involved in this war, but there'll
be a lot of pressure from Lindsey Graham
and others to get involved in this war.
And I hope that his instincts will prevail.
I thought there was another.
A little standard blather.
Yeah, yeah.
There was another, let me see.
I think I had another one from Lindsey
Graham.
Where was it?
Um, hmm.
Hold on a second.
Yeah, Lindsey Graham, he's, you know, he's got
Boeing in his pocket.
Oh, here we go.
Somebody's in somebody's pocket.
Here he is.
This is from this morning.
By the way, it's not just Lindsey Graham.
It is the unlikely dynamic duo of Lindsey
Graham and Richard Blumenthal, the peaceniks at work.
I think there is really no obstacle.
And this is about Iran and Russia.
To our moving ahead with these bone crushing
sanctions, even if oil prices spike because of
what's happening in the Middle East.
You know, we are now energy independent when
it comes to oil.
The United States, you're kind of giving the
game away here, by the way.
It's like, it's about oil.
It's about us.
But I mean, nukes.
We are now energy independent when it comes
to the United States.
Europe has weaned itself off Russian oil.
Europe is solidly behind these sanctions.
And we've incorporated flexibility in this bill based
on our national security for a potential waiver
where our interests are concerned unforeseeably or unknowably
right now.
We've incorporated exemptions for our European allies who
are aiding Ukraine in the billions of dollars,
giving them a little bit more time to
adjust.
This is a carefully constructed- What he
says, there's three categories.
If you're not doing business with Russia, you
don't have anything to worry about.
If you're doing business with Russia, but you're
helping Ukraine, you have a carve out for
270 days.
If you're doing business with Russia and not
helping Ukraine, you're screwed.
The president can waive part of all of
this based on our national interest.
But to the people who wonder, should we
pay a price for our freedom we have
in the past?
Go to Arlington.
Oil prices will go up- Our bill.
Oil prices will go up if we try
to confront Iran for their nuclear ambitions.
But you pay now, you pay later.
If we get Iran right and we get
peace with Russia, Ukraine, not only do oil
prices come down, the world will be better
off.
So this idea of having freedom and not
sacrificing never existed, nor does it exist now.
I'll go sacrifice yourself, Lindsey Graham.
What a crock.
I mean, it just goes on with all
the bromide and cliche you can imagine.
I mean, I truly think that President Trump
is just trying to get, he's just, let's
just compete.
Let's do everything.
But, you know, China, you guys don't know
what you're talking about.
Look, go look at Africa.
You don't want China in your country.
You don't want to do business with China.
That's just, you don't want that.
You want, you would rather have the Chinese
run the world over us?
I don't think so.
I think he's truly trying to make this
work.
I don't know if it's possible, but I
think it's worth a shot.
He's got a lot of, you got No
King's Day, and you got all the rest
of it.
He's doing what he can do.
No King's Day.
What a dud.
What a dud that was.
It was a dud.
Well, you think that would, not according to
the Brits?
You mean the British media?
If you have time to change topics.
Yeah, BBC.
I want to play the BBC, some BBC
stuff here, including their analysis of the parade,
which was in competition with no King's peaceful
protests.
Let me find the right clip to start
with.
Here we go.
Let's start with BBC, says the Trump parade
was a no-show.
President Trump has hosted a massive military parade
in Washington, D.C. to celebrate the 250th
anniversary of the U.S. Army.
The parade told the story of the military
from the Battle of Lexington until the present
day.
It included thousands of troops, tanks and military
equipment and flyovers and ended with a fireworks
display and a concert.
In his speech, Mr. Trump...
Do you think the Brits are a little
sour about the whole Battle of Lexington thing,
maybe?
Is that maybe why they're...
I don't know.
Are you playing this report and you get
your eyes will roll?
...and ended with a fireworks display and a
concert.
In his speech, Mr. Trump paid tribute to
those who fought for America throughout the years.
Time and again, America's enemies have learned that
if you threaten the American people, our soldiers
are coming for you.
Your defeat will be certain.
Your demise will be final and your downfall
will be total and complete because our soldiers
never give up, never surrender and never, ever
quit.
They fight, fight, fight and they win, win,
win.
Our North America correspondent Normia Iqbal was at
the parade and she joins me now live
from Washington.
Did they say, did the BBC guys say
Mr. Trump instead of President Trump?
I missed it if they did.
I think so.
Could be, could be.
Very typical.
Normia, what can you tell us?
What did it look like?
It was quite the spectacle, there's no doubt.
And I think there was something quite strange
seeing armored vehicles and tanks sort of rolling
down the streets in D.C. It really
had everything.
You had thousands of soldiers in historical uniforms,
there was flyover, there were even robot dogs.
And there were, there were crowds here but
the Trump administration is claiming up to 250
,000 people here.
We know Donald Trump loves crowd sizes but
there definitely wasn't that number here.
It was pretty overcast.
There were a few thousand here.
There were lots of empty seats where I'm
stood right now on the Mall just in
front of me.
You know, there weren't a lot of people
here.
I always loved the...
There were a few thousand.
I always loved the grammar.
There were a few thousand where I stood
here or where you stand or where you
were standing.
The seats were empty, there were just a
few thousand.
Yeah, no one was there, no.
This is bullcrap.
There was very little television coverage for sure.
And I will say that it did not
look as good as it could have because
of the overcast sky.
That definitely...
Well, it didn't rain.
It didn't rain but it didn't make it
look, I think, the way that the president
would have wanted it to look.
But they make it sound nobody showed up.
Well, of course.
Because, you know, they're all protesting and in
fact, you can play the clip.
Here's the BBC on the No King's Peaceful
Protest.
Mass protests.
Oh, wait, I'm sorry.
Go to the Parade 2 part because I...
Actually, let me play this.
Play Parade 2 Birthday and then I want
to play a couple other clips.
It was Parade 2 Birthday 3.
Is that the one you want?
Yes.
It's a little confusing.
Donald Trump sees the military and his command
of it as a sign of his own
strength and he's been flexing that from coast
to coast.
Yeah, and it is, of course, Mr Trump's
birthday.
It is, but he claims that's just a
coincidence.
Although, again, you know, those who are against
the president will not buy that.
And interestingly, at the start of the parade,
when he took to the platform and there
was the Hail the Chief and a group
singing him Happy Birthday, like a mini choir,
wasn't quite clear who they were singing Happy
Birthday to.
Him, the army.
I mean, it coincidentally fell on his birthday,
but for his critics, they believe that that's
no coincidence.
No coincidence, his birthday.
It's no coincidence that his birthday fell on
the 250th anniversary of the founding of the
US Army.
It's a coincidence.
He was planned.
He was a planned baby.
He was planned.
Birthday one, PBS.
Hold on a second.
The occasion, the US Army's 250th birthday, which
happens to coincide with President Trump's own birthday.
Make a point.
Birthday two, PBS.
How did his vision for a Bastille Day
-style parade evolve into this event, marking the
Army's 250th anniversary, which also happens to fall
on President Trump's own birthday?
How did he do it?
It fell, unbelievable.
It fell on his birthday.
Here's birthday false comparison.
How is the Pentagon responding to concerns that
the military is being politicized?
There are critics who have compared this parade
to authoritarian spectacles, the types you see in
China, Russia, North Korea.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We had a No King's Day in Fredericksburg,
and there was about...
Oh, did you take photos?
Oh, there's tons, tons of video and photos.
And so they're all standing outside the courthouse,
which is actually no longer the courthouse.
I think they've turned it into a library,
which...
Yeah, that's the same thing up in Port
Angeles.
They stand in front of some...
Yeah, or actually maybe storage, and they're planning
to expand the library there.
But there's only like six people in Port
Angeles that do this.
Well...
The same six old farts.
There were probably 50 to 100.
Yeah, it was quite a few.
And they all were waving...
Yeah, they were.
Oh, yeah.
They were all waving American flags, and they
all held up signs that said, Happy birthday.
I hope it's your last.
What?
Yeah, yeah.
I'd get the Secret Service on that person.
Wow.
They're threatening the president, calling for his death.
That's what it sounds like.
That's okay.
Whatever.
It's fine.
Now, the last BBC clip is the one
on No King's peaceful protest.
Peaceful, very peaceful.
Mass protests against the Trump administration taking place
across the US.
The organizers of the No King's rallies accused
Mr. Trump of overstepping his presidential powers.
Some of the anger has been sparked by
recent raids and arrests by immigration officials across
the country.
Right now, I think our constitutional rights are
being violated.
Stepped on, trampled on, and disregarded by President
Donald Trump.
Everything looks unlawful to me at this point
in America.
I believe that Donald Trump is destroying our
country.
He has sold out democracy to the highest
bidder.
He is really only in this for himself.
The events of the past week have been
distressing, to say the least.
I don't like the reach that the current
administration has over our country.
Some of the biggest protests are in Los
Angeles, from where I'm joined by our North
America correspondent, John Sudworth.
John, we're seeing video of police really facing
off against protesters.
What's the mood like?
Yeah, so in the last hour and a
half or so, it's turned slightly more confrontational.
I've just seen at the top of the
street, probably 30, 40 meters from where I'm
standing, the police moving forward on horseback and
pushing the crowd away from that junction.
A couple of loud bangs, hard to know
from here.
No sign of tear gas, so that's possibly
rubber bullets they're firing as they're doing that
too.
The junction I'm on is relatively peaceful.
There's a line of LAPD, riot police helmets
on, holding their batons.
A couple of them have the baton round
guns, those rubber bullet guns as well.
But surrounding them and on all sides of
this junction, a big, largely peaceful crowd.
I mean, noisy, but peaceful, if you know
what I mean.
But you know, it was largely peaceful.
And I combed through, I mean, fast forwarded
through hours and hours of recorded footage trying
to find someone who had a message and
it was all kind of the same.
It was just like, I don't like Trump.
Yeah, Trump sucks.
Yeah, I mean, here's an example.
This came from Rebel News.
The problem that we're having now is even
if Donald Trump is not in office, is
that the 38% of Republicans that would
still support him is a cult.
This is a brainwashed cult that we are
dealing with.
And they need an intervention.
Okay, and if there's nothing else, I think
the only thing that Trump has been successful
at in this whole past 10 years is
that he's been the most successful cult leader
on the planet ever.
Because he's got- I am what I
say you are.
What you say about yourself, it gets better.
In spite of all the disgusting things that
he's done, he made fun of a disabled
reporter.
That's her one thing, by the way.
That old trope.
Of all the disgusting things he's done, made
fun of a disabled reporter.
And that's all she has, believe me.
All the disgusting things that he's done.
He made fun of a disabled reporter.
I mean, I'm not even going to give
you the litany of all the disgusting things
he's done.
I'm not going to give you the litany.
It's beneath me to talk about things I
can't really remember.
The word sound- Hold it, stop, stop.
I want to revisit the disabled reporter thing.
So let's go back in time when this
happened.
This happened before the 2016 election.
Trump used to do a spaz guy.
It used to be part of his act.
Yes, he did.
He would just spaz, do a spastic kind
of a thing.
It was kind of a joke to him.
And so the Democrats had set him up
with a disabled reporter asking a question, knowing,
because it was a leading question, the kind
of question that he- where Trump did
the spastic character, you know, as a joke,
not knowing that the reporter was disabled.
And so he did the bit.
And so then they said, look what he
did.
He mocked the disabled reporter.
This whole thing was a complete setup.
And by the way, Trump never did that
bit again.
That was the last time he ever did
it because he got had by being too
glib and not paying attention.
But that was such nonsense.
But it's structured.
You know, the Democrats have their thing, they
have their methodology, and this is part of
it.
And having stupid people, like the woman you
just played, is part of the way it
works.
She's not done because what- you're right,
what she's saying- She's not done.
No, she's not done.
She is literally portraying a brainwashed person.
And I'm not saying that it's avoidable for
her, but that's the brainwashing that she received.
And she holds on to that one thing.
And it's beneath her to go through the
whole litany of disgusting things President Trump has
done because he is only a cult leader.
38% of Americans are cultists.
They're just cultists and cannot see that maybe
she's the one in the cult.
He made fun of a disabled reporter.
I'm not even going to give you the
litany of all the disgusting things he's done.
The word salad, the verbal diarrhea that comes
out of his mouth, and these people are
still sucking up every single word that he
says.
I mean, it's like normal people, people with
any kind of character, would not support a
man like that.
So this has gone beyond normal people.
This is in the realm of cult.
What would you say to a Republican?
What would I say?
I would say turn off Fox News, turn
off right wing media, find out what he
is doing.
But it's very hard to speak sense to
a lot of these people.
They need psychiatric help.
There needs to be, in order to bring
these people back to reality, back to decency,
they need some kind of help or intervention
to get them out of the cult.
What's interesting is that we have not seen
violence from red-hatted MAGA cult members.
Have we?
Is there something?
Am I misremembering?
No, no.
So the only violence...
Jussie Smollett.
Those guys had a red hat.
Yeah, they had red hats.
It was the black red hat wearers.
Yes, exactly.
So, you know, it pains me that, because
when you are in this mode, when you
say, well, they're in the cult and you
can't reach inside yourself and say, you know,
you just got to stop watching right wing
media, stop watching Fox News.
Well, what do you think you're consuming?
That just does not enter their minds.
And it's too bad.
I mean, we've always had a healthy discourse
between left and right, Republican and Democrat.
And it's just, I don't know if it's
repairable.
You know, because people on the right just
say, you guys are libtards, you're no good,
you're nut jobs, you're crazy.
Libtard is my favorite.
Yeah, you know, that's not necessarily helpful either.
I'm not convinced over time I've done this
show long enough and then I also have
my background in history.
I'm not convinced that this hasn't always been
the case.
And there's nothing new here.
Well, this is not like a schism that
just formed.
No, you're right.
It's been exaggerated by Fox because Fox News
is the first, actually Rush Limbaugh started it.
He's the first guy that showed up with
a perspective that was honest, right wing, on
radio, got a big huge following to the
point where he got a $400 million contract
just to yack, yack, yack.
And then Fox...
That irks you, doesn't it?
It irks you, yes.
Well, but so what has changed...
Not as much as Rachel Maddow getting $25
million to work one day a week.
But John, you show up with TikTok clips
of nut jobs, which you call nut jobs,
and it's just people on the left, you
know, okay, they don't have a red hat,
they have blue hair.
And you make fun of them.
So, you know, everyone's...
Well, it's because it's amusing to me.
I understand.
But the thing that has changed is media,
social and mainstream.
There's more of it.
We see more of it.
We're more inundated by it.
It hits all of the pleasure centers.
Oh, there's more.
Oh, there's...
I can see someone's fighting.
Just scroll on X.
Every third video is someone beating somebody else.
It's a lot of beat up videos.
Look at this.
They're beating each other up at the Chick
-fil-A.
It's, you know, that's...
Exactly.
A lot of that.
Oh, there's black girls fighting in a fast
food restaurant.
There's black girls pulling hair, pulling wigs off.
I know.
And that is the scourge.
That is what is killing us.
On the inside, it's eating our souls.
It really is.
It could be feeding our souls, for all
you know.
Yeah.
This is just one perspective that you have.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Since I've known you, I've never known you
to be just so joyous about nut jobs
on TikTok.
You're like, I love this.
This is great.
This is this crazy person.
That's what TikTok has done.
It's ruined my friend John C.
Dvorak.
So now I will take this to the
next level, which I thought was a very
interesting analysis.
Back to China?
Yes.
By none other than the Cuomo kid, Chris
Cuomo, who for all I know could be
doing this as a paid job by the
State Department.
I don't know.
If that was discovered, like all of a
sudden we now discovered that Mike Myers the
comic was working for the CIA or whatever
for all these years.
Nothing would surprise me.
Right.
Exactly.
Nothing should surprise you when it comes to
Intel.
Yeah.
Now this is about the Los Angeles protests.
These protests are fed by dark sources with
a desire for our destruction.
One of the main players in organizing and
funding the Los Angeles protests is a group
called CHIRLA, C-H-I-R-L-A,
acronym Coalition for Humane Immigration Rights.
They have received millions in government grants and
state grants.
But now reports are showing that there may
be a foreign link, specifically from China, funding
and organizing these protests.
The pro-Chinese far-left Party for Socialism
and Liberation.
They're known as the PSL.
They are working with CHIRLA, helping fund the
protests in Los Angeles and maybe elsewhere.
Remember, all the parties in China are controlled
by the CCP.
So this is China.
And the party is pushing to destroy capitalism
and the West.
This is its agenda.
This is what China wants.
They even have a term for the effort.
It's called the smokeless war, where they have
this theory of how they'll destroy the West
without actually taking to the battlefield.
That's what they did during the anti-Israel
campus protests.
The PSL worked hand in glove with anti
-Zionist student groups and helped organize and fund
the Columbia campus encampments.
By the way, I could totally buy this
theory.
I think the fentanyl and opioids and all
this stuff, you know, the Chinese are still
mad about the opioid wars.
Yeah, they are.
Fungus, smuggling fungus.
What they should be mad at, the Brits,
not us.
We didn't do it.
Smuggling fungus into America.
It's very possible.
But wait, it gets even scarier.
Now it gets scarier.
Where does the PSL get its money?
Enter Shanghai-based socialist billionaire Neville Singham.
2017, he sold his tech company for about
a billion.
Reports show the same year he started funding
far-left groups like the PSL to the
tune of millions.
Millions.
Singham is not America's friend.
He has deep business ties to the CCP,
but also has strong ideological ties to communism,
period.
People who worked for him says he's an
admirer of Mao, Che Guevara, Hugo Chavez.
Not friends of American culture.
According to the New York Times, Singham has
funded and developed a deep global empire of
pro-China nonprofits in the media and grassroots
political space, steering millions into these groups over
the years, including the PSL.
And guess who was associated with the PSL
and other Singham-funded groups?
Elias Rodriguez.
Ring a bell?
This scumbag.
The 30-year-old Chicago man who murdered
two Israeli staffers in cold blood last month.
Oh, man, it's too complicated.
Well, the Singham guy is great.
I mean, he is something, people should look
him up and read his bio in Wiki.
His name is Neville Singham.
It's S-I-N-G-H-A-M.
He's from Sri Lanka, half Cuban, half Sri
Lankan.
Communist, not blatant communist.
He lives in Shanghai, China.
I think he's still an American citizen.
Married to the founder of Code Pink.
No.
Yes.
Not that lady.
Yeah, the crazy lady.
What's her name again?
I can't remember her name offhand, but she's,
you know, showed up for everything.
She's like a dirty trickster, like a Dick
Tuck Segretti type person.
Oh, no, no, it's Jody Evans.
That's not the same one.
That's not the one you're thinking of.
I'm thinking of the founder of Code Pink.
No, no, he is married to Code Pink
co-founder Jody Evans.
You're thinking of the other lady.
He's not married to her.
Jody Evans is just, you think there's a
difference between the two women in terms of
their being nuts?
No, I'm just differentiating.
It's Medea Benjamin.
That's the one you're thinking of.
Yes, you're thinking of her.
Oh, okay.
But this Singham guy is like, he's just
basically a communist.
I mean, he's not even...
He's not hiding it.
Not hiding it.
He's in Shanghai and he works for the
CCP and they're probably funneling money through him.
It's probably not even that much of his
money.
And yeah, he's subversive and he's got all
these phony baloney organizations under his wing.
He's worse than Soros at the moment.
Yeah.
Who just got married, I hear?
Alex.
Soros?
And Alex got married to Uma.
Oh, Alex.
Yeah, he got married to Uma.
Oh, he did.
That's good.
That's a couple of two beards.
Two beards.
Show title.
Okay, I'm right.
Two beards.
So let's play the USAID in Hungary.
This came up.
This is on one of these podcast reports.
This is interesting.
We have to look forward to this.
Hold on a second.
I'm looking for it.
USAID, you said?
Oh, I got it.
Here we go.
The Hungarian government has announced that they will
be releasing a documentary exposing the USAID scandal.
The movie will focus on revealing how USAID
funneled millions of dollars into ideological movements in
their country.
They claim that political organizations and liberal media,
which claim to be independent, received money through
USAID to promote Democrat agendas such as illegal
migration, transgenders, and war stances.
Orban's government says USAID is working with George
Soros's Open Society Foundations in the plot.
You know, the only thing I'm a little
tired of is, like, Fredericksburg, Soros, Soros, Soros.
The Open Society Institute is so big.
I mean, Soros doesn't even have to think
about it anymore.
No, it runs on its own.
It's an infrastructure that's been in place for
decades.
It's worldwide.
It's like jumping off a motorcycle.
Oh, really?
Jump off a motorcycle, the thing will go
a mile.
Right.
Balancing itself.
Yeah.
Good point.
You know, it's OSI, Open Society Institute.
And it's just a great place to donate
money so that you can enrich yourself by,
A, deducting that from your income tax, and
B, you know, helping to stir things up.
It's not even Soros.
Soros, as far as I know, he's in
the cryogenic chamber.
The guy is 100 years old.
Yes, I know.
If you've seen him speak within the last
year or two, he can barely get a
word out.
Can't get anything out.
And Alex, I have my doubts about that
guy being any kind of powerhouse like his
dad.
He seems like a beta male.
It seems like.
I think you called it two beards.
You nailed it.
And a beard.
And, you know, who would get married to
Uma Abedin?
That's like, you got to watch your six
all the time.
Your six.
There you go again with that phrase.
Watching too many TV shows.
Watch your six, man.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Hey, we're being accused of being boomers.
Yeah, you know what?
You should listen.
We are boomers.
Yeah, you should listen to your elders.
Hey, you guys are boomers, really?
You should listen to your elders.
Thanks for the accusation.
We're boomers and you're a dipshit.
How about that?
Nailed it.
The one thing is no one can ever
accuse us of not speaking our mind and
saying what we think it is, right, wrong,
or indifferent.
At least we have an opinion.
And we're right almost all the time because
that's the funny thing about being a boomer.
Oh, is that so?
Does that give you instant I'm right credits?
No, no.
It's just from years and years and years
and years and years of experience.
Well, we weren't right about the former governor
of New York.
You know, we were pretty sure he killed
all those seniors in the nursing home.
Go in there and choke them out.
Well, he has evidence that he did a
good job.
Some people have criticized your leadership during COVID,
specifically when it comes to the nursing home
crisis.
How do you answer that question?
First of all, New Yorkers are going to
criticize whatever you do.
On nursing homes, it became a political football
four years ago.
We now have had a number of reports
that have gone all through it.
And it has been proven to have been
politicized.
The Department of Justice Inspector General said they
played politics with the issue.
And then when you look at it at
the end of the day, and they have
all the final numbers.
New York is number 38 in what's called
the rate of death for every 1000 people
in a nursing home.
We're number 38.
New York is number 38 out of 50
states.
We're great.
Which means only 12 states had a lower
rate of death.
Which is really incredible.
When you come to New York, you'll die
less.
You think about it.
We had it first.
We had it worst.
We didn't know what it was.
And it's a tribute to the women and
men who worked in our healthcare system and
kept it down that low that only 12
states.
We saw your mobile morgues.
They were empty.
The hospitals were empty.
There was nothing.
Had a lower rate of death and they
had more time to get ready.
We were hit by surprise.
No, they did an extraordinary job.
And yes, there was a lot of politics
in the beginning.
And Trump was blaming us.
And we were blaming Trump.
No he wasn't.
Four years later.
Trump wasn't blaming anybody.
Trump brought in hospital ships.
Trump was the.
Yeah, he wasn't blaming anyone.
Facts and.
Another thing to think about.
New Yorkers did a great job and we
led the nation.
When nobody knew what it was, Dan, we
were on the front line and we stood
up and we handled it.
We were leading the nation by offering people
burgers and fries in exchange for a shot.
We were first people.
That was us.
Dope.
That if that guy gets gets elected mayor,
I don't know.
It's hopeless back there.
Yeah, he'll get elected.
You know, they always I heard of him.
I mean, yeah, maybe he gets in.
Yeah, this guy.
Oh, yeah, he's good.
That's possible.
Oh, brother.
If he gets elected, it wouldn't surprise me
in the least.
So speaking of Trump being a horrible dictator,
we have in addition to the big, beautiful
bill, which is just got Colorado up in
arms.
Colorado's Democratic delegation blasting a proposal today, they
say, would hurt Colorado's outdoor lifestyle.
I love the last thing is going to
hurt Colorado's outdoor lifestyle.
How's that work?
Were they going to shut down the sun?
I was talking to Bill Gates.
Lifestyle, a new provision added to the budget
reconciliation or big, beautiful bill would require the
BLM and U.S. Forest Service to sell
millions of acres of public lands to build
housing.
Public lands matter.
Yes, Colorado, Colorado.
They make the West the West.
But which lands?
Lawmakers ended the call before taking that question
for me.
So I followed up with an email and
Senator Michael Bennett's office responded, saying that because
areas with oil and gas grazing or mining
permits could not be sold, recreation areas would
be at risk.
Places like 18 Road in Fruita, Hartman Rocks
in Gunnison or Animas City Mountain in Durango.
What might seem like a barren parcel on
a senator's desk on a map is actually
a place where Coloradans hike, camp, hunt, ATV,
climb and so much more.
Jessica Turner, president of the Outdoor Recreation Roundtable,
says there's already a mechanism to sell or
lease federal land for housing.
We don't need a whole new.
By the way, this woman who's in charge
of whatever this thing is, she is so
she's inside her house and she's on her
computer.
She has, you know, those rich lady clothes,
the ones that are couture and they're made
of always thick material.
You know, like and it's pink and it's
thick and then you look at her and
her living room has like Baroque furniture.
It looks like my first wife's living room,
honestly, Baroque furniture and just, you know, she's
she just oozes wealth.
That takes away those safeguards.
She's a hiker.
No, she does not look like a hiker
at all.
No, I would call her a Brahmin American.
You know, we have a class of society.
It's it's people like this.
I mean, seriously, it's people like this.
You know, it's our version of Brahmins who
are upper middle class to just upper class.
And and they know everything and they understand
everything better.
And for God's sake, man, who's going to
clean my toilet?
You've got to keep the illegals here.
But Summers acknowledges tourism and recreation in Colorado
are also hugely important to our economy and
anything that would impact that, including the sale
of federal lands, would have to be analyzed
further.
Right now, one thing we do know, the
bill couldn't touch some of our state's landmarks.
It does stipulate that no protected areas.
So a national park, a national monument, a
well-seen river, those would not be part
of this proposal.
So I look at this proposal and what
percentage do you think is proposed in this
amendment to the big, beautiful bill to what
percentage of Colorado land will be sold off?
Five.
Zero point seven five percent.
What?
Yes.
In fact, it says zero point.
It says between zero point five and zero
point seven five percent.
But we got to blast him.
It's not.
It's nothing.
It's not.
It's nothing.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah.
OK.
Well, talk about since you're on Colorado, I
get my two Colorado clips.
You got Colorado clips.
Something screwy is going on or these clips
wouldn't exist.
And here they are.
Colorado clip one.
NPR has learned the Department of Justice has
made it.
Where's Scott Scheinman?
Is he on vacation?
Scott Scheinman.
Is he on vacation?
He's only working.
No, he works weekends.
Weekends.
With that black screechy girl.
NPR has learned the Department of Justice has
made a sweeping demand for Colorado's election records.
NPR's Jude Joffrey Block Report's documents show the
DOJ asked Colorado to turn over all records
from the twenty twenty four federal elections and
to preserve any records it still has from
twenty twenty.
Several voting experts and officials told NPR that
broad of a request is highly unusual and
concerning.
Given President Trump's false claims, false claims, false,
false claims about elections.
Jenna Griswold is Colorado's Democratic secretary of state.
We are seeing them use the apparatus of
the federal government to undermine our elections and
our democracy.
And I would assume that this is more
of the same.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
False claims.
False false claims.
False claims.
Claims.
Claims that are false.
False claims.
So claims that are false and false claims
are two different phrases and they don't mean
the same thing.
They do not.
So here we end up in the former,
which is claims that are false is more
accurate.
The other one is just propaganda.
When you say false claims is propaganda.
And then this is PBS or NPR is
NPR.
So it's propagandistic.
Yes.
National Propaganda Radio NPR.
OK.
Right.
So let's play clip two.
The Justice Department indicated it had received a
complaint.
Colorado was not complying with federal record retention
rules.
The department declined to provide additional details.
Yeah, this is obvious.
What's going on is Colorado, I think, is
ground zero for these voting machines, which just
seem to be a mess technically.
Well, Colorado is the first state that tried
to keep Trump off the ballot.
But that's not unconstitutional.
I forgot all about that.
Oh, what an annoying, annoying.
And so Colorado is this and that.
And then when you play the clips about
the 0.07 percent.
Yeah.
Point whatever.
Yeah.
It makes you wonder, wait a minute, is
this Colorado pushing back by the elites, the
woman, the elite woman, the Brahman, which I
like that phrase.
The Brahman American.
Brahman American.
Yeah, it leads, you know, there's elites there.
My buddy is actually going.
There's a lot of elites in Aspen.
And and there's two or three of these
cities in the, you know, the mountain towns.
Aspen's a great one.
Yeah.
Bill Ziff had a place in Aspen.
I visited, so I visited Bill Ziff's place
in Aspen because I was sorting out his
wines.
Yeah.
And I know there's a little bit.
How does that call go?
Hey, hey, Dvorak, come over to Aspen.
I want you to sort out my wine.
So I'm in Aspen going through the place
and there's mousetraps all over the place because
the biggest Aspen is loaded with mice.
And and so I take a look at
the whole operation.
He's got a big indoor pool.
And this is one of these stories.
So there's a big indoor pool.
And and there's a whole bunch of workers
in there and they're over the pool.
They've got a big netting and a bunch
of flowers and some they're putting up a
bunch of, you know, like vines and flowers
or something.
They're all growing live flowers across the top
for the guests.
And they're bringing all these big light light
stanchions.
There's a whole bunch of lights.
And and the lights are underneath the flowers
above the pool and pointing up.
And I said to the guy, what do
you do?
What is the flowers getting enough?
What's the deal with the lights?
And the guy says, well, we put him
here for a couple of weeks and it
gives enough time for the flowers and the
plants to kind of turn toward the light.
So when they have a big pool party
and people look up, they get to see
the flowers.
Oh, that's some Brahman stuff right there.
That's some rich dude stuff.
I shook my eyes and said, wow.
This is a new story.
I didn't know this story.
This is a new one.
Yeah, that's a new one.
That's a good one.
All right, let's let's turn our focus to
Minnesota.
Very, very odd things going on in Minnesota.
Let's get a little background from Good Morning
America.
This morning, an urgent manhunt underway after a
man investigators say was posing as a police
officer allegedly shot and killed a Minnesota lawmaker
and her husband in their home.
Police say the same suspect was involved in
a separate attack just 90 minutes earlier, allegedly
shooting and wounding another lawmaker and his wife.
Suspects posing as police officers shot two victims.
Police responding to reports of gunfire around 2
a.m. Saturday at the home of Democratic
Senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, just
outside Minneapolis.
Officers then checking on Democratic former House Speaker
Melissa Hortman and her husband a few miles
away at their Brooklyn Park home, willing to
find the two fatally shot.
They noticed that there was a police vehicle
in the driveway with the lights, emergency lights
on and what appeared to be a police
officer at the door coming out of the
house.
When our officers confronted them, the individual immediately
fired upon the officers who exchanged gunfire and
the suspect retreated back into the home.
This this whole thing.
So I think there's a clip somewhere where
immediately just within hours of it happening.
I was expecting to find a MAGA hat
in the car.
You know, and then they released this the
name of this guy.
And it's all very, very.
The whole thing is super suspicious.
Dubious.
I have the bonus clip.
Well, let me let me let me let
me let me finish this one up and
then we'll get.
I just want to say this has this
is the screwiest, most suspicious.
This is MK Ultra.
I'm with you on that.
Authorities now naming 57 year old Vance Bolter
as the suspect.
Investigators say he was dressed as an officer
wearing a vest, a badge and a taser
and was driving an SUV with police lights.
The FBI releasing images they say are of
him in a cowboy hat and wearing a
latex mask outside one of the victim's homes.
Investigators say they've recovered several firearms from Bolter's
vehicle, along with no King's Flyers and writings
mentioning the names of the victims, some abortion
providers and other Democratic lawmakers.
Sources telling ABC News law enforcement is looking
into whether he may have been motivated by
extreme views on abortion.
And that's kind of new, this extreme views
on abortion that wasn't there in the beginning.
And this video of this guy, undated video,
you know, he was waffling on for about
four minutes.
He's like a guy that picks up dead
bodies and takes him to the morgue.
I have this.
I have the clip of that if you
when you want to get to it.
Yeah, we just do it now.
Is that oh, you got the whole thing.
That's the bonus.
Yes, you're going to have to live with
the whole thing because it's interesting enough.
I couldn't really I could have just clipped
out where you talked about it.
You brought that whole I didn't even clip
it.
It was like this is nothing.
Well, you can run to the beginning of
it because once I can just summarize.
I don't have to play the beginning, but
before you play it, there's a couple of
things I want to note that people should
note this.
When they discuss the cop comes out and
this has been said more than once, he
was 61 inches tall.
That's five one.
He's a midget.
And so no offense to the short and
petite males out there listening to the show.
Interesting.
So do they that's that they always say
instead of saying he's five one, they say
he's 61 inches, which makes him sound like
maybe he's bigger.
Well, you know, when you take a mugshot,
when you take a mugshot.
Yeah, I know you have the inches on
the side inches.
Yes, but when you're in a press conference,
you don't say you don't take people's inches.
Well, the reason I'm getting into it with
you is because that probably means there was
a mugshot of him taken at some point.
Otherwise, why would you even say that?
Well, that's a good point.
Because whenever you see a mugshot, it's always
has inches on the.
Yeah, you have to do the calculation.
And so I don't see where at any
point this guy is some kind of security
guy for some.
Not at five one.
And the other thing is, according to this,
the clip you're going to play, he's married
with five kids.
Yes.
Another one.
Where where's the wife?
Where are the kids?
Well, the wife did show up and they
did.
Somebody did contact her.
But why did it was mentioned that he
had told his two roommates, two dudes that
he was going to be gone for a
while and may end up dead?
This came up in the press conference.
So why is he living with two guys
if he's married with five kids?
Let's listen to a little bit of this
video.
Oh, my name is Vance.
Wait, let me preface the video.
This is this is a from a zoom
call he made.
He was linked.
He's on.
I saw his LinkedIn profile to is a
zoom call he made because he was taking
a class on mortuary services.
It was one of those online classes.
And in those classes, you introduce yourself.
This is his introduction to himself.
I advance no other names that I use.
I live in Greenell, Minnesota, about an hour
away from the Minneapolis, St. Paul area.
I'm affiliated with two funeral homes.
I work full time for Wolf Funeral Home,
which is an intake location for about six
funeral homes.
And we also do all the intake for
the National Cremation Society and the Neptune Society
for all their cremation.
What kind of courses?
What kind of course was he taking if
he already is doing the job?
He's basically a grunt worker picking up dead
bodies.
He's not a he's not a funeral director.
And I think that's what he wanted to
become.
As well, so I mainly do removals at
this point.
So I work at Wolf full time.
And then I also work for another funeral
home called Metro First Call.
And they also do traditional removals at nursing
homes, assisted living apartments.
But they also have contracts with medical examiner's
office.
So like one contract is the Hennepin County
Medical Examiner's Office.
So we'll do removals, which we're working with
a lot of police officers and and deaf
investigators at the location where a decedent is
found.
Have you seen any pictures of the so
-called car that looked like a cop car
with lights on it?
Have you seen any pictures?
No, they didn't show that.
And then the other thing is he just
they've just found his other car to this
earlier.
And supposedly took off on foot.
He was wearing a stupid mask.
This whole thing is really screwed up.
This is a bad op.
Yeah.
Is there anything else in here we need
to listen to?
Well, actually, you have to keep now that
you started.
That part is not not interesting.
It gets more interesting as we right now.
It starts to be a crime scene or
just a natural death.
And our role is to just take the
decedent from that place of death to the
medical examiner's office.
And so between those two locations, I'm working
about six days a week.
This is about where I build on the
video, so I'm glad that this is the
part where it gets good.
OK, well, I'm glad you got it.
What else here?
Family and pets.
I have a wife and five kids and
we have two pets, German shepherds.
Fun fact about myself, I've been in the
food industry about 30 years and that led
to an opportunity.
I was invited to the Democratic Republic of
Congo, which is located in Central Africa.
When I was in high school, the country
was called Zaire.
That's a little bit more familiar with people,
but it's the largest, second largest country in
Africa, right in the middle and the center
there, and was asked a couple of years
ago to go and see what I could
do for ideas and helping their food supply
system.
Their population is about 100 million people and
they import 80 percent of their food currently.
So some of the food companies I worked
for in the past were Farm to Fork,
like Del Monte Foods and Golden Plum Poultry,
where we did everything from at Del Monte.
We planted the products to harvest them, to
process them and then shipped them out.
In Golden Plum Poultry, we had our own
hatcheries, grew our own barns.
Well, how is that helping feed the people
of Zaire?
It sounds like it sounds like some kind
of capitalist takeover.
Farmers and then processing plants.
So between those two companies, I have some
experience with agriculture.
And so over in the Democratic Republic of
Congo, I had some ideas they thought were
pretty promising, which.
Package up some Congolese and put them in
Del Monte cans.
The whole thing is just he goes on
about this and then he was going to
move his family there.
And then he was but he wanted a
part time job here so he could make
money to pay for this other thing.
I mean, he's almost done, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
30 seconds.
But it's like, what is this guy?
What is going on here?
The company I was working for at the
time wasn't interested in doing anything in Africa.
So I talked with my wife and we
decided I just put in my two week
notice and we just go off on our
own to try to do these projects to
help out in Africa.
So we're doing farming and fishing projects in
the Democratic Republic of Congo.
And to help pay the bills, I just
started working at a funeral home because the
shift worked good for my schedule with the
other things I was doing.
And that led to some classes at DMACC,
which led to this course.
So just learning more about the funeral industry.
And I think that covers everything.
And I will look forward to seeing you
in class.
And we'll go from there.
Well, where was the interesting part?
Well, I thought it was interesting that he's
connected to the Democratic Republic of Congo.
And if you go to his LinkedIn page,
he's the CEO of the Red Lion Group,
which is...
This is bullcrap.
There's a website, all right?
These are websites and the Praetorian Guard.
It is bullcrap.
But what is...
This is crazy bullcrap, considering what this guy
just did.
He had a hit list with Ilan Omar
on it.
Why he didn't put her at the top
is unknown.
You're a horrible man.
Let's listen to ABC here for a second.
This morning, the urgent manhunt continues in the
Minnesota Twin Cities region for 57...
By the way, manifesto immediately mentioned.
Manifesto.
Yeah, where's the manifesto?
We don't get the manifesto.
They never give us the manifesto until they
rewrite it.
We don't get the manifesto.
I want the manifesto.
This morning, the urgent manhunt continues in the
Minnesota Twin Cities region for 57-year-old
Vance Bolter.
The suspect, police say, killed a beloved Minnesota
lawmaker and her husband and wounded another legislator
and his spouse.
This was an act of targeted political violence.
He knew that that was there right away.
Targeted political violence.
I mean, is it an op gone wrong?
There's something...
There's something gone wrong.
Something is wrong.
The FBI putting...
By the way, that woman, we don't have
a...
There are clips available of her.
She was frightened because...
Oh, good.
OK.
I have the clip.
Here she is.
Representative Melissa Hortman after she voted no on
health care for illegals.
I know that people will be hurt by
that vote.
And I'm...
We worked very hard to try to get
a budget deal that wouldn't include that provision.
Yeah.
So she looked...
She sided with the Republicans.
She looked and sounded distraught.
And she was very upset because, according to
other reports, all the Democrats in the state
were going after her for siding with the
Republicans on the free welfare for undocumented immigrants.
And...
Which is an easy kind of MAGA right
-wing thought, like, oh, that's why he killed
her.
But that's why she was killed.
I'm not buying any of that.
Something else is going on here.
Well, I'm not buying anything because I think
this is some sort of...
I think you maybe hit it right, an
op gone wrong.
Yeah.
Let's finish with ABC.
Targeted political violence.
The FBI putting out these images they say
are of Bolter not long after the attack
in a cowboy hat, offering a $50,000
reward for information leading to his arrest.
Bolter, a Minnesota resident, ran a private security
company with his wife.
Do not approach him.
You should consider him armed and dangerous.
Around 2 a.m. Saturday, police in Champlain,
northwest of Minneapolis, responding to reports of a
shooting at the home of state Senator John
Hoffman and his wife, Yvette.
Suspects posing as police officers shot two victims.
Eight miles away in Brooklyn Park, a fast
-thinking sergeant proactively checking on the home of
former House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband,
Mark, finding them fatally shot.
They noticed that there was a police vehicle
in the driveway with the lights, emergency lights
on, and what appeared to be a police
officer at the door coming out of the
house.
When our officers confronted them, the individual immediately
fired upon the officers who exchanged gunfire, and
the suspect retreated back into the home.
I just happened to go check on him.
Yeah, I should go check on him.
Yeah, by coincidence.
And the other thing is, now all of
a sudden, instead of being at Africa or
a funeral home or a food service, he's
co-owned a security company with his wife,
while he was living with two dudes.
You know what?
This to me— This is nuts.
This sounds like a contracted hit from someone
else not politically motivated.
How about this?
Now that you bring that up, the guy
was a hitman.
Yeah, yeah, in Congo.
Yeah, and maybe that's why he was in
the Congo, to do a hit there.
I mean, this is really out there, but
what's the possibility?
There are these guys out there that are
professional murderers.
They're usually about 61 inches tall.
And the 61 inches tall is code.
Yeah.
And what's the mugshot taken for?
Because I think your analysis of that is
probably correct.
It had to be a mugshot with a
61-inch marker on the side, which is
where that came from.
When people ask me how tall I am,
my standard joke is 5'17".
But I'm going to start switching to inches
now.
So they really go, 5'17 is already
hard for people.
So— Oh, oh, oh, I see.
You're 6'5".
This is very—and then what's he doing with
the— in the supposedly, in the car, there
was a bunch of these no kings.
What's that got to do with the price
of bread?
And then the phony baloney list of people
that were on, you know, Ilhan Omar, Tim
Walz, and a bunch of other politicos that
were on.
That's bullcrap.
This whole thing could be bullcrap.
But I like the hitman theory of my
own.
I'm patting myself on the head.
It's a hitman.
Don't give yourself a brain injury.
And she was nervous when she—that clip you
played of the speaker.
She was a nervous wreck for some reason.
Something else was going on.
So, anyway, for people who are emailing me
and saying, what is our—what is happening in
our world?
Just look at the ground.
Turn off the TV.
Put your phone down.
Turn off the TV.
It'll be okay.
These things have been going on forever.
I mean, no one even mentioned the 10
people shot in an Austrian school.
That wasn't news.
Here.
No, well, I saw one report— A little
bit.
A little bit.
But, you know, it's like, this is the—
we live in a broken, fallen world.
That's just it.
But it's not.
It's the same old world it's always been.
That's my point.
It's just more amplified.
It's amplified continuously.
Yeah, which gives us the opportunity to do
a No Agenda show for people.
They should be thankful.
No.
I don't care if they're thankful or not.
Yeah, you do.
Just—but it's like, don't worry about it.
Go outside.
Enjoy your neighbors.
Have a joke about their birthday signs.
Hey, how you doing?
Yeah, okay.
That's pretty funny.
Just calm down every— I mean, there are—
It's off the rails here, John.
It's off the rails.
Like, well, you know, 2030, Soros, the World
Economic Forum.
They're going to— the New World Order.
We're back to New World Order.
That's cropping up again.
It's the cycle that's just annoying.
It's like, hey, I went down that rabbit
hole 15 years ago.
It is nothing at the bottom.
There's no Alice in Wonderland.
There's no Looking Glass.
Aliens.
Speaking of, something else to be worried about.
It's roughly the size of a 15-story
building.
Asteroid 2024-YR4, dubbed the City Killer when
it was discovered last year, was initially given
a 3% chance of striking Earth on
the 22nd of December 2032.
New projections from NASA have downgraded that threat
to almost zero.
Instead, our nearest neighbor, the Moon, may now
be in danger.
Oh no!
NASA has upgraded the chances of a lunar
collision to 4.3%. Though unlikely, the impact
could be visible from Earth and may leave
a new lunar crater up to a kilometer
in diameter.
Objects in space, where there is so much
space and the chances of hitting anything is
extremely low in most circumstances, 4% is
very high indeed.
Debris from- How can 4% chance
of it hitting the Moon be very high
indeed?
It's better that it was high compared to
one.
Now, I wonder if this thing hits the
Moon, if it's going to crack through the
uh- The hollow Moon.
The hollow Moon.
The hollow Moon, because it could crack through,
because so far nothing's been able to penetrate
that inner thing, whatever it is.
Did you see- Spacecraft.
I didn't clip it, but there was some
guy, a state senator, I think, and he
was being interviewed and he let it slip.
He said, well, you know, I've talked to
Army guys, we got Army people on the
Moon.
I'm like, what?
Did you see that video?
No, I didn't.
It was almost unclipable.
I'm surprised that you saw it, you didn't
clip it.
It's like three seconds long, I'm like, eh.
I tried to find the original, couldn't find
it.
I gotta get up.
Yeah.
I gotta do work now, I can't do
that.
I gotta get it.
Where's the gun?
Ah, it's too late, forget it.
Can't do that.
Are the Grammys coming up?
Are the Grammys on the way?
Is it- You're the one that keeps
track of the Grammys, I don't.
Let me see, when is the Grammy Awards?
I think the CMT had something to go.
Let me see.
Look at your Satan cycle calendar.
I'm looking at the Satan cycle here, let
me see.
The Grammy Awards, when are they coming up?
They should be coming up soon, the 20
- Is it the- February?
Oh, please.
Because they just announced some new categories, which
is also very interesting.
Changes are coming to music's biggest night in
2026.
The Recording Academy has announced new rules and
new categories for the Grammy Awards next year.
The Best New Artist category is expanding to
include acts who were previously nominated for Album
of the Year as a Featured Artist.
I don't understand this.
So- What?
Yeah, so if you were nominated for Best
Album, you can now be nominated for Best
New Artist, even if you won, I guess,
that category.
But then you're not new.
I mean, who are they trying to get
on the show that they have to-
This is like when we did- Oh,
that's exactly right.
This is what we did with- I've
told this story- with Michael Jackson.
We wanted to get Michael Jackson on the
Video Music Awards, and he would only do
it if we promised to give him the
Video Vanguard Award, and we would name it
after him, the Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award
of the Year.
And so, yeah, okay.
And there were some other stipulations, which-
Well, I'll tell the story in case someone
hasn't heard it.
This sounds corrupt.
So, and then we had to do this
whole special weekend to debut his video.
I don't remember which one it was.
And so we recorded- on Friday, we'd
record for- Let me see.
Thursdays, we record for Saturday and Sunday, and
Friday, we record for Monday, because none of
it was- not much of it was
live.
So we did the whole 48 on Thursday,
and then Friday, we taped for Monday, and
everybody went home.
And then the frantic phone calls, everybody had
to come in on Saturday to reshoot everything
for the weekend, because in the contract that
stipulated every single time we would say Michael
Jackson, it had- you had to say
Michael- Oh, yeah, you did tell this
story.
Michael Jackson, the King of Pop.
And so we didn't- that contract piece
hadn't come down to the studio.
But anyway, so, you know, you finesse the
award, you make up an award to get
someone to appear on the award show.
And by the way, once he was dead,
that's now the J-Lo Video Vanguard Award.
That didn't last, those hypocrites.
So anyway, so there's something up with this.
Who were previously nominated for Album of the
Year as a featured artist.
The Academy is also carving out a standalone
category for Best Album Cover and create-
Album cover?
The No Agenda Show should win that.
When's the last time you saw an album
cover?
On an album cover, and creating a brand
new category for Best Traditional Country Album.
The existing Best Country Album category has been
renamed Best Contemporary Country Album.
So they're kind of giving two lanes for
that.
What that means is we have a white
country, a country winner and a black country
winner because Beyonce took it last year.
The change comes after, of course, Beyonce won
Best Country Album last year for Cowboy Carter.
We're really seeing a lot of expansion within
that music category.
There's no words to reflect it.
This is weird.
Best Contemporary.
This is the same thing that Tony's did.
Tony's added a bunch of, first, you know,
the Best Actor and Best Featured Actor.
Two separate categories.
Hmm.
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
I don't know.
It's strange.
You're right.
I think you absolutely nailed it.
This is corruption at the core.
We want to get so-and-so to
show up for the show because nobody wants
to do these shows anymore because the ratings
are flagging.
And it's not helping us much if they
don't show up.
If nobody shows up, it gets worse.
We got to bribe them somehow.
So how are we going to do it?
Okay, here's what we're going to do.
Let's have a meeting.
Yeah.
Let's have a meeting.
Oh, man.
Oh, boy.
What are we going to do?
Well, we do the Albrego Garcia stuff.
I got two clips.
Oh, is he, is he, what's happening with
him?
Well, here's the update.
The Albrego Garcia update.
In Tennessee, Kilmar Albrego Garcia pleaded not guilty
today to federal charges of human smuggling.
It was the first time the construction worker
and long-time Maryland resident has appeared in
a U.S. courtroom since he was mistakenly
deported to El Salvador in March.
The Trump administration brought him back to the
U.S. last week to face criminal charges
that stem from a 2022 traffic stop.
The people united will never be divided.
Albrego Garcia's supporters called for his freedom outside
the courthouse today.
And at a nearby church, his wife, Jennifer,
described seeing her husband for the first time
in three months.
Meantime, a federal judge has sided with the
Trump administration's push to keep Columbia University graduate
Mahmoud Khalil in detention.
That's despite a previous judge's order saying the
pro-Palestinian activist could no longer be held
based on the administration's initial argument that he's
a threat to U.S. foreign policy.
The government now says Khalil is being held
on other grounds, claiming that he lied on
his green card application.
No.
They're keeping him in Louisiana for some sort
of debriefing.
By the way, when you're ready, I have
the answer for Louisiana for you.
But first with Albrego Garcia, this is interesting.
This was on a podcast.
This is Dershowitz.
Dershowitz clip.
Yeah.
Talking about the analyzing the whole situation, saying
that his lawyers, his liberal lawyers got him
screwed over.
Big mistake.
Big blunder by his lawyers.
His lawyers never, ever should have tried to
bring him back to the United States.
They should have filed a motion having him
transferred from El Salvador or Nicaragua, where maybe
there was some fear, to another place, say
Argentina or Brazil.
He might be a free man today if
they had done that.
Remember that he was ordered deported.
The only flaw in the order was where
he was sent, not whether he was sent.
And so I think he may spend a
long time in prison.
If he's found guilty, he's presumed innocent.
But if he's found guilty, he's going to
spend a long time in prison complaining about
his ideological radical lawyers who made a hero
out of him and try to get him
back to the United States when that was
not in his own self-interest.
So lawyers made the most fundamental mistake a
lawyer can make, putting ideology before the best
interest of the client.
Right.
One quick bounce question, and then I'm coming
to the GOV.
The GOV.
Professor, the idea of what America should have
done with him, why these charges from a
traffic stop that didn't seem to amount to
much when it happened, instead of challenging the
stay of removal?
Well, they can do both.
That's the problem with what the lawyers did.
They're going to have a trial.
If he's convicted, they're happy.
But if he's acquitted, they can still bring
the deportation charges because the standard of proof
is very different in deportation charges.
All they would have to do is deport
him to a country where he could not
make a plausible claim that he's in danger.
So from the government's point of view, it's
a win-win to do it this way.
Did Cuomo say, in a minute, we're coming
to the GOV?
Yeah.
Is that his brother?
We're coming to the GOV?
Yeah, the GOV.
The GOV.
Yeah, they tried to make this a George
Floyd type deal.
That's what they tried, and it failed.
Well, they're still working on it.
They got the protesters out there demanding he'd
be freed.
It's not going to happen.
It was so sad to see these people
who were just, you know, so you have
these vans, kind of like courtesy shuttles almost.
And I guess they rousted some people and
put them in the courtesy shuttles.
And then you have these protesters standing in
front and just completely hysterical.
Let my people go.
It's like, wow.
I love that woman yelling that.
She's screaming at the top of her lungs,
damaging her vocal cords, no doubt.
Yeah, let my people go.
Let my people go.
And she's like, you know, she's bald.
She's some bald white woman.
Yeah, she was.
She was bald.
It's like, what is wrong with these?
But this is terrible.
Yeah, she needed a hug really bad.
No, she needed.
Yeah, she needed a hug.
And in the sane asylum, she needs a
hug with a straight jacket.
When you go that hysterical, I mean, there's
no coming back at a certain point.
It's like a temper tantrum for an adult.
I have trouble watching that.
I look like, oh, it's just hard.
What is going on?
Yeah.
So that reminds me of this TikTok video.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Don't I got to stick with Louisiana for
a moment?
OK.
Oh, yes.
I want to hear that.
I'll bring you back.
So our Dell dealer, he's in Louisiana and
he says, oh, no, we what you what?
The Dell dealer is the guy who sent
who sends the Dell computers.
Oh, the guy who never sent me anything.
Yeah, I think I have yours.
Oh, not one of those deals.
It's like the people that send me candy
bars for you.
They send me Dells.
You know, he was going to send me
a cool seven inch touch screen.
But then he heard Tina complaining about the
mess in my studio.
He said, oh, I didn't send it out
because I didn't want Tina to get mad
at you.
I just got screwed out of a cool
seven inch touch screen.
So whose fault is that?
Don't think I'm going to say it's my
wife's fault.
It's always my fault.
Hello.
So he's in Louisiana.
I met him.
He came to Fredericksburg with his daughter.
Nice guy.
Real nice guy.
We had a lunch.
We hung out for a little bit.
And he said, oh, no, it's this is
the place to be.
We we have we're number one when it
comes to detention centers.
And he sent me a couple of maps
and some clips.
And I think this one says it all.
Since the all woman South Louisiana ice processing
center.
These facilities are five some five hours away
from downtown New Orleans.
Most folks don't even know they exist.
It's one of Louisiana's privately run ice facilities,
where Tufts University Ph.D. student Rumisha Ozturk
is currently being held.
The facility is part of a growing network
of detention centers across the state, now under
scrutiny by lawmakers and activists.
Unfortunately, Louisiana has a very has a lot
of prison capacity.
Nell Hahn works to educate migrants in Lafayette
about their rights.
She says the rural locations of these centers
make it nearly impossible for detainees to access
help.
It's particularly hard on immigrants because there aren't
that many immigration lawyers and most of them
are not concentrated in central or north Louisiana.
Louisiana is rapidly becoming a detention hotspot.
In March, Columbia University student Mahmood Khalil was
transferred to a center in Jenna.
Just a month earlier, migrants from Guantanamo Bay
were sent to Louisiana.
According to TARG, Louisiana now holds the second
highest number of ice detainees in the U
.S., over 7,000.
Texas ranks first with more than 29,000.
And it's not just the numbers raising eyebrows,
it's who's running the show.
According to research from the National Immigrant Justice
Center, 90% of people in ice custody
in the country are held in privately run
facilities.
These are incredibly, incredibly profitable businesses.
There you go.
That's America, baby.
Profit.
That's why.
Far away from lawyers and very profitable.
Like far away from lawyers.
Far away in the middle of nowhere, Louisiana.
Far away from lawyers.
That would be, no lawyer wants to work
there.
And from what I understand, the government facilities,
it costs $120 a day to house a
detainee and the commercial guys, eh, we'll do
it for $75.
We got you.
We got you, gov.
We got you, government.
We'll take care of you.
So that's why.
And but Texas is still number one.
Who knew?
Oh, I didn't know that either.
Where?
Probably in the middle of nowhere, somewhere in
Texas, outside of Waco.
And with that, I want to thank you
for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man
who put the C in coming to the
gov.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end.
The one, the only, Mr. Wine Orderer himself.
John Cena.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam
Curry.
Joe Gallagher.
Yeah, hello, trolls in the troll room.
Very trolly.
Well, it's Father's Day.
1912.
That stinks.
I thought there'd be more people willing to
hear our Iran bombing stuff.
No, I guess not.
They're like, dad's more important.
I'm okay with that.
If dad's more important than Iran bombing.
Iran bombing stuff.
I'm fine with that.
I'm good.
It's nice.
You had a nice little ditty in the
newsletter about the origin of Father's Day.
Can you recant?
I mean, recount?
Yeah, Father's Day was, you know, it was
a pushback.
Mother's Day had been established long in the
1800s, I think.
And they had, the fathers were short sheeted
and they didn't get any day.
And so they started bitching about it.
It began in 1901, the first kind of
somebody came up with the idea of Father's
Day.
It never went anywhere.
And then in 1956, to be specific, the
Eisenhower administration, they recognized it was a Father's
Day.
And then it started floating around.
It was in the 70s where they gave
it a day.
Third Sunday or second Sunday of the month
or whatever.
And it's always been semi-rejected because it's
a symbol of the patriarchy.
Yes.
And socks.
Socks.
I got Happy Father's Day from my stepdaughters,
even.
It was really nice.
Both of them?
Both of them, yeah.
Both of them.
And from my own daughter.
Yeah, it's nice.
I feel like a dad.
I feel like the patriarch of the family.
Heck yeah.
Well, I got a Happy Father's Day from
my daughter, not from my son or my
stepson, either one.
None of them, or my wife, nobody else.
Really?
Mimi didn't even say, hey, thanks for being
a great father?
But I probably ignored it.
How can you ignore it?
Does she need a banner flying over the
house?
Does she text you?
You just ignored it.
No, I think she said something last night,
but it wasn't official.
Hey, by the way, Happy Father's Day from
my...
All right.
But I think we've discussed this already.
It's a nudnik day for the most part,
except apparently for our listeners.
Yes.
Well, we do have some Father's Day well
wishes.
I looked at the spreadsheet.
I saw it come in.
But first, we want to remind you that
the trolls who we count diligently, they're all
listening through a number, a variety of ways,
and they're in the troll room, of course.
Trollroom.io where you can listen live, and
you can troll along if you feel like
it.
Lots of trolling happening today.
Suggestion, listen on a modern podcast app.
Did I tell you that the research came
out that it's been denied, that YouTube was
out there claiming they're the biggest podcast platform
ever?
Did you hear any of that?
No, I know nothing of what you speak.
Okay.
So, well, basically, Google slash YouTube have been
just going on and on.
Well, people, podcasts are on YouTube.
Podcasts, everything is a podcast.
And they'd go in and automatically...
If you had headphones on and a microphone,
they'd change your tags to, it's a podcast.
And then they say, oh, we've got a
billion podcasts.
It's like, it was fake and gay, honestly.
It was not okay.
And then some guy came out from Signal
Hill Research, which is part of some other
big group, said, no, no, no.
In fact, if you look at it, it's
like over 60% listen to podcasts on
podcast apps.
And then the whole industry, which for a
year and a half has been going, oh,
you need video.
You can't have a...
Oh, the market's demanding video.
If you don't do video, you can't have
a podcast.
You won't be successful.
No one's going to care about you.
The young people, they only watch podcasts.
They don't want to listen to podcasts.
On a dime they turned.
You know, people are misinterpreting what I was
saying.
You know, I just felt it was the
shiny new thing.
Boo.
So podcast wins again.
You cannot...
In fact, I would say that podcast is
the biggest medium in media in general.
I think you could probably make that claim.
I think somebody might be able to prove
it.
Well, if you take four and a half
million podcasts, let's say the average...
Yeah.
Well...
When I turn to go YouTube TV, I
do not have four and a half.
Even with Pluto, I do not have four
and a half million channels.
A 1.8 of those million comes from
Anchor, formerly known as Anchor, which is a
free host and now is Spotify for podcasters.
It's still free.
So a lot of those are like, test
one, two, poop.
Right.
Okay.
That's your podcast.
Test one, two.
They got one episode.
But let's just presume that on average, every
podcast has 100 listeners.
That's 400 million, four and a half, 450
million.
It dwarfs everything.
You are either a podcast or you don't
exist in media land.
That's just it.
Podcasting is bigger than anything else.
En masse.
And it's distributed and no one owns it
and no one can take it down.
Good try, YouTube, who came out and said,
YouTube, you know, they've never reported their numbers.
I don't even think they're profitable.
If you were making tons of money with
YouTube, wouldn't you say, hey, YouTube did really
great?
Wouldn't you put that in your numbers?
They've been very secretive about all their numbers.
Well, they still report numbers.
Their public numbers, the way they report numbers
is like they don't want anyone knowing what
their formula, underlying formula for number generation is.
So they Google's always even before YouTube, they
were always very sketchy about how they reported
numbers.
They had the money.
There's money here.
Look, there's a pile of money.
Well, that's the report they came out with
is we contribute $55 billion to the GDP
of the world.
Okay.
Does that include camera companies and probably that
number is probably true, but the underlying foundational
calculations for that number are a mystery.
They had to make special chips just to
encode all the video they get to do
it with any kind of speed.
I mean, I just don't see.
Well, it doesn't matter.
Podcasting MP3s.
We're glad you're listening.
We've never done video.
We're never going to do video.
That's one thing I can say.
We're never going to do that.
We're just too old and boomery.
No one wants to look at us old
and boomery.
You don't want to watch a couple of
boomers with cans on there.
I mean, what's worse than two boomers on
a podcast is two boomers on a video
podcast.
That's the worst.
I don't want to imagine that.
So anyway, try out a modern podcast app.
It works with all of your existing podcasts,
and it has lots of benefits, including chapters
with art, which is nice, which you can
crowdsource those.
Dreb Scott does them for us.
But I think the most exciting pieces are
that you listen to the live show in
the podcast app.
It alerts you when we go live.
We got the bat signal.
And when we publish, and this is the
one that is most appropriate for today's issues,
particularly with some of the legacy apps where
you've got people complaining, oh, it's not an
app.
Within 90 seconds of us publishing the podcast,
it shows up on the modern podcast apps.
That's why you want to get one.
Everything else is kind of the same.
And there's like 27 other new features, but
you can figure those out for yourself.
We are still a value for value program,
which means we just give you our unadulterated
opinion, years of experience, years of doing media
deconstruction.
I mean, I have end of show mixes.
I just pulled out all the Bob Moran
clips again.
This is the fifth time we've used them
in the history of the show.
You could just keep pulling them out.
They're still valid.
Just keep pulling them out.
There we go again.
Time to Bob Moran.
It's always the same people saying it too.
So we thank people who give us time,
their talent, their treasure.
We always thank people who support us financially.
$50 and above.
We'll mention your name.
But before we even get to that, you
mentioned it earlier, the artists.
We should indeed be nominated for album art
for a Grammy.
I would gladly.
It wouldn't be funny if we went up
there to accept it.
We got a Grammy for best album art.
Go podcasting!
That's what you'd make me say.
I know you'd make me say that.
Definitely, you'd have to say that.
So we have No Agenda Art Generator, which
is one of the great examples of time,
talent, and treasure.
That is Sir Paul Couture who put that
together for us.
And the artists have been uploading art for
well over a decade, maybe 15 years with
different versions of the art generator.
So we always get to, right after the
show, we get to choose from a plethora
of art, which I have to say I'm
seeing model collapse before my very eyes.
Everyone's using AI these days.
They've gone from photographic type images.
Now it's just all cartoony.
And the cartoons, they're starting to look the
same, like the same cartoon.
The same.
It's like, that's why we get confused.
Oh my gosh, that was my thesis, that
digital 1-1-2-2-1-1-5,
whatever his name is.
Digital man 1-2-1-1-2.
Was Darren O'Neill.
Yeah, because it all looks the same.
Because the cartoon they have, they're prompting.
I don't know if they're using the same
software.
Maybe they're not.
That would make it even worse.
But this happened with the last DHN plug
that's coming up.
Is the, or the one last week, or
the one coming, there's one, some art that
Andrew did.
It is the same.
It looks like it was done by O
'Neill.
I mean, it's got the same character, cartoon
type.
It's just like a certain, it's annoying.
It's the second law of thermodynamics.
Entropy.
You can't stop it.
It's just unstoppable.
When this stuff keeps eating its own art,
it's just going to, it's just going to
get worse and worse and worse.
And then, you know, whoa, no, but there's
this new one.
Yeah, because it hasn't been saturated with its
own output yet.
There's going to be a lot of new
ones, apparently.
Well, of course, because everyone knows you hang
around long enough.
I mean, who still uses Dali, please?
That was, that was the cat's meow back
in the day.
I do.
Yeah, well, where's your art then?
I don't know.
Exactly.
We, we want to thank our artist who
brought us the artwork for episode 1772.
And it was indeed Digital2112man for the concept.
There were multiple versions of the concept.
And this was not perfect by any stretch
of the imagination.
No, because he left out the term Dr.
Pepper.
Yes, he, the most important part was left
out, but he had the album cover concept
correct.
So that's why we chose it.
It's, you know, I guess it's John and
George.
You and me, it's you and me.
I don't even wear glasses, but okay.
No, but I, no, I'm the, well, who
am I then?
I'm not the guy with the mustache.
The guy with the glasses with the hat.
Yeah, I'm the guy with the hat.
Had the right idea.
And let's just go take a look at
the other art because there was, there was
one other, which actually had Dr. Pepper on
it.
Because that was a mistake.
You said Dr. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
It was funny.
And so we had, well, there was also
Digital2112man.
He did No Agendas, Dr. Pepper's Lonely Hearts
Club, Curry and Dvorak Band.
But it was just a poster.
It wasn't even the right thing.
He should have combined those two.
Yeah, he should have.
That's a misser.
But if you're just working with prompts, you
can say combine the two and you won't
get what you want.
But everything, everything is AI.
And it's just blending together.
It's all starting to look alike.
The good example is Digital2112's, if you go
down further, you got the two cartoons next
to each other.
Keep that story in your pants and No
Kings, which I like the No Kings one.
But the cartoon style is the same as
Darren O'Neill's cartoon style and every other
cartoon style is the same one that Horowitz
ran into.
Because that's all.
It's not even outputting good stuff anymore.
In fact, Scaramanga's Mexican Protestacan down further down,
which I liked a lot, but you rejected
because Curry and Dvorak was too small.
You can't read it.
It was too small.
But why is Scaramanga doing that?
What happened to his photorealistic stuff?
It can't be done anymore.
I'm telling you, it's like Mike, Mike Reilly's
entire catalog was boomers complaining about AI.
No, I got more complaints coming up.
Oh, yeah.
Just so you know.
Known fact.
Was there anything else that we like?
Yeah, you like the crosswalk down below Scaramanga's
thing, which I use for the newsletter.
Yeah, because and the only reason why is
that kind of reminded me of the Beatles,
you know, the Abbey Road album cover.
And it was OK.
But again, Digital 2112 man.
And what's going to happen is his art
is going to start sucking because the AI
is sucking up his art and it's going
to suck worse.
It's going to degrade.
Digital 2112 man also did the one another
one I like, which is the Rotten Fruit.
Yeah, which is down the next layer.
And did you hear that the Atari chess
computer program beat Chad GPT at chess?
No.
The Atari program in an emulator from the
80s.
Yes.
Yeah.
And Chad GPT was mad.
It was like, well, you know, it had
all kinds of excuses.
If we just start over, then I can
show you I can win, was basically Chad
GPT's answer every single time.
Yeah, I think.
Yeah, that's when you walk.
Yes, you're two out of three, five, three
out of five.
Yeah, right.
But that five out of seven.
What's next?
That just goes to show.
You know, this stuff is no good.
It's not what it's great for is a
so-called help desk.
I think it's great for that.
Yeah.
How can I help you?
Your trash will be picked up on Thursday.
Would you like a special time for ten
dollars extra?
It can do that.
I think help desk call center valid.
Everything else.
No good art.
Disappointing.
I miss our artists.
I really do.
Well, I don't.
They've deserted us.
I think they're the new prompt.
Jockey artists are doing just fine.
I think it sucks.
It's not it's not fine.
OK, it's fine.
Yes, it's fine.
It's not great.
It's just fine.
OK, if you have a funny concept, you
can still win, but it's not there's nothing
is stunning anymore.
Do you think there's anything stunning like, wow,
that's just so great, so beautiful?
No, no.
About, say, any one of these pieces that
you bitch and moan about constantly, if you
put it back in time five years and
dropped it in, you'd win.
Yeah.
And Mike Reilly.
Exactly.
And he's deserted us.
Yes, he has.
Yes.
Mike Reilly has left the building.
Yes.
I don't think he listens to the show
anymore.
No, no.
Because of you.
He's like the Dvorak.
I hate him.
All right.
So yes, thank you very much.
Digital Man 2112 for your win and no
agenda.
Artgenerator.com.
Anybody can prompt and participate these days, apparently.
Now we thank our executive and associate executive
producers for Father's Day for episode 1773 1776
coming up soon.
This is where we chose.
That's right.
This is where we thank everybody who supported
the show.
Fifty dollars or more.
In fact, in this particular segment, two hundred
dollars or above.
Not only do we thank you.
Not only do we tell people the number,
because numerology is important.
We will also read your note and you
get an associate executive producership for this episode,
for this show.
It's good for your lifetime.
You can use it anywhere you wish.
Anywhere that Hollywood credits are accepted.
They will accept this one, including IMDB.com.
Three hundred dollars or above and you get
an executive producer credit.
Same deal.
We read your note.
Some long notes today, but there's some Father's
Day stuff in here.
So we're okay with it.
Eric Boss, B-A-U-S-S, Boss,
Boss, Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, comes in.
Check this out.
With two donations of one thousand thirty three
combined two thousand sixty six.
And he says, I.T.M. No agenda
nation.
It's true.
Couples that know agenda together stay together.
Our love is lit.
I am finalizing my wife, Deanna.
And it's grueling years of scholarship with these
two donations of one thousand thirty three each
to receive our Ph.D. diplomas as doctor
of philosophy and media deconstruction.
We especially thank the two greatest professors in
the universe, Adam and John.
That's Professor Adam, Professor John to you.
Without your mentorship, this would not have been
possible.
Please deduce Deanna.
Oh, you've been deduced.
Seeing as this is her first donation, although
she's a longtime listener for my wife, please
bestow the title of Dame Deanna, beacon of
good heart.
And my title shall be Sir Eric, the
unfiltered of good heart.
Speaking of good heart, check out the best
vacation.
Wow.
I didn't see that coming.
Check out the best the best vacation rental
in the universe.
Check out some gold.
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universe on the shore of Lake Michigan.
Das Nordhaus dot net.
That's D.A.S.N.O.R.D
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Das Nordhaus dot net.
Could have been in Fredericksburg.
Jar Jar Jarbs.
Jobs, karma, jingle, please.
In Christ Jesus, Godspeed, Eric Deanna and good
heart, Michigan.
You bet.
And thank you so much.
Your titles and your Ph.D.'s coming up.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Let's take a look at this.
Karma.
I want to take a look at Das
Nordhaus.
Das Nordhaus dot net.
Go ahead.
While you're doing that, I'll plug Sam Hamad.
Hamad or Hamadi.
He's in Commerce Township, Michigan.
And he came in another $1,000 Ph
.D., $1,000 from him, but no notes.
So he has to get a double up
karma.
You've got karma.
Okay, I'm looking at Das Nordhaus dot net.
Wow, it is a beach house.
Yeah.
It's a cool beach house.
How big?
Uh, let me see.
Does it say how many?
How many?
Let me see.
How many rooms?
It looks big.
Seven bedrooms.
Three and a half baths.
That's beautiful.
It's got a bonus room, a breakfast room.
Oh, man.
I didn't get a deal.
I could take Dina to Lake Michigan.
Troy Walters.
Yes.
I was going to say, maybe one of
the reasons the trolls are so low today.
I just got a note from Janet, who
says she's been trying to get listened to
the live stream and she can't.
No.
How long do I have to wait?
It says it's coming, but will it?
What should I give up?
Where is she looking?
I don't know.
Oh, you know what?
It's very.
No, I know.
I hate the life.
I hate the bad signal.
Everybody got the bad signal.
I don't know what she's talking about.
Let me see.
She has two notes and she's so panicked.
Well, did she go to troll room dot
IO?
That's I mean, I've said it a million
times.
Anyway, Troy Walters in Long, Long Warren.
Long, Long Warren, Long Warren, Long Warren, Victoria,
Australia, one thousand dollars, which I'm guessing is
is Australian dollar reduce matters not night number
three.
He says, do you remember when John ran
the strip club and he sends a link?
Actually, I saw this note come in and
I and I posted the link on X.
This is the Gitmo Nation murder in Australia.
Do you remember that whole YouTube video from
13 years ago?
Did you look at it vaguely?
No.
Oh, it's so good.
They did.
Oh, no, I did.
Yeah.
The one.
Yes.
The one that they were.
The guy gets shot in the alley.
Shot in the head.
Yeah, it was great.
I guess he was one.
I think I'm pretty sure Troy is one
of the producers of that.
And that was I don't remember the thing
when it came out.
Oh, I do.
And it was before I and they and
they did some video overlays and look pretty
good.
It was fun.
Yeah, the Gitmo Nation cops trying to come
and get people shooting him in the head
and people with Hello Slave T-shirts where
you could still wear them.
Good times.
Thank you very much, Troy.
Thank you for everything, brother.
So so we are.
Janet has sent in a bunch of screenshots
from the troll room and she claims she
can't hear anything.
Look, I can't.
I can't.
I know I can't do anything.
I'm just saying tech stuff for her.
Maybe something's amiss.
There's nothing amiss.
It works fine.
OK, well, I'm just saying she's I don't
normally see this sort of complaining.
I don't know what to tell you.
I can't help it.
I'm doing a show.
OK, I'll send you the note.
Yeah, take care of it later.
OK.
Onward, I think you had the which where
you're up with Chris Kearns.
Oh, Chris.
Yes, man.
Billerica, Billerica, Billerica.
Is that right?
Massachusetts never has bugs.
No, sounds right.
Thanks for the show.
I'd like my knight named to be Sir
Chris of Billerica.
I know it's pronounced differently.
It's got to be a little additional.
What?
Maybe Billerica could be better.
It could be no, no additional items at
the table for me.
No jingles, no karma.
God bless Chris.
All right.
Then we go to Joop.
Joop van de Pet in Eindhoven in the
Netherlands.
One thousand dollars.
And he says a few weeks ago, I
asked John to bring back the Ph.D.
immediate deconstruction because I think that having attended
more than 400 classes in over 400 years
now qualifies me for this coveted academic title.
Yes, it was.
He was the one who was the one
who triggered this.
So I was thrilled to hear I could
be graduating in the class of twenty five.
I hereby send you my tuition fee, which
also brings me to instant knighthood.
As my knight name, I would like to
be known as Sir Vix Destroyer.
Wait, that's way too offensive.
Let's go for Sir.
Sir T...
Tiefied?
Maverick?
Tiefied?
What do you think that is?
T-I-F-I-E-D.
Tiefied.
Hello, I'm looking for feedback.
I have got nothing.
Sir Tiefied Maverick of the Peaks and Poulders.
Tiffied.
No, it's not Tiffied.
Tiffied.
Sir...
Oh, Sir Tiefied.
Sir Tiefied.
Well, duh.
Sir Tiefied Maverick.
OK, got it.
Of the Peaks and Poulders.
As it reflects my cultural heritage being born
in Colorado near Peaks...
Not Pikes Peak and living in the Netherlands.
Can I have tulips and tumbleweeds at the
round table, please?
Why, yes, of course you may.
Can I eat those?
Well, you can.
You can.
Hey, it's whatever he wants.
You can have whatever you want.
Forget about the arrangement.
Yes, a centerpiece.
I have a couple of requests.
When I donated for the first time a
while back, my note mentioned that I didn't
want to be a douchebag when meeting Adam
at the meetup near Schiphol, but I forgot
to explicitly ask for a de-douching.
Therefore, I never got one.
Please officially de-douche me.
You've been de-douched.
Also, could you put my girlfriend Oshra on
the birthday list for show 1777?
You're gonna have to email this back, brother.
That's...
I mean, Jay is pretty good at it,
but email just in case.
She turns 40 on the 30th of June.
Last time I donated, I asked for jobs
and relationship karma, but I received neither.
Since then, I did manage to find both
a great job and an awesome girlfriend, so
I guess I can go karmaless this time
around.
However, he wants WTC7, and we told you
so on no agenda, which is actually a
banned jingle, but we've banned it so long
that I'll play it because we don't like
spiking the ball.
Thank you for your courage, says Joop van
der Putt.
WTC7 won't go away.
We told you so on no agenda.
There you go.
Yeah, that's no good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anyway, that was a long...
I would call that the long note of
the day.
Long note.
That was a long note.
There's more to come.
But Baronettes Kelly in Sayville, New York.
Okay, Ville.
ICM gents, I hope you have a very
happy Father's Day and a happy Father's Day
to my amazing husband, Joe.
Yo, yo, Joe.
Thanks for putting up with all the estrogen
in our household.
Just some yak karma.
Thanks, boys.
Baronettes Kelly of the longest island.
You've got karma.
Oops, there's the topper.
Yeah, Amzie Meyer from New Rockford, North Dakota.
333.33. In the morning, sorry to blow
out your spreadsheet again, John.
Not long ago, I got my tax return.
The mail asked my wife if I could
donate it to no agenda.
Reluctantly, she said yes.
That's a good idea.
The small amount of stolen treasure I've been
able to recover is being donated in honor
of my father for Father's Day, which will
make him a knight.
He should be knighted Sir Preston, knight of
the CS.
I'd also like to call out Jeremiah as
a douchebag.
When the mask mandates were in place, Dad
went to hospital a few times.
When he was told to mask up, he
told the nurses that he can't because he
has CS.
Why?
Because CS stands for common sense.
I don't think he's listed on the Knights.
Okay, I'll check it.
Dad, you're an amazing father and role model
to me and your other human resources.
I love you.
On a more sobering note, I would like
to ask for prayers for all those who
have taken the jab.
Life goes on and it isn't easy to
be ignorant when you're healthy, but I worked
with someone who recently died of heart complications
after being through hell and back with blood
thinners, medications, and open heart surgery.
It's frightening to hear people discuss taking 10
different medications to counteract the side effects of
the one or two they actually need.
He was also vaxxed and boosted.
His wife also started having similar issues, though
I haven't kept up with her.
Another former co-worker of mine who was
only 59 had two strokes and has been
calling me to tell me she won't be
coming in for work even though that she
stopped working here over a year ago.
Adam, go set Rogan straight about AI.
He's becoming part of the op.
I did it on the last show.
I told him he was wrong.
With love, Sir Amzie, Knight of the Northern
Plains.
May God bless the two of you and
thank you for your courage.
So let me make sure we have Sir
Preston.
Knight of the C.S. on the list.
Okay, you may continue while I do that.
Yes, and Angel Young in Tucson, Arizona.
Our first associate executive producer at 263.22.
There's no note.
Uh-oh.
That means a double up karma.
You're getting all the good ones today.
You've got.
Yeah, I am.
Karma.
Moving right along to Daniela Pompu.
Pompu.
Daniela Pompu.
Los Angeles, California, $250.
And she says, happy birthday, D.J.T.
Which would be Donald Jane, Donald John Trump.
There you go.
Thank you.
So you skipped Sir Stuart.
Oh, well, you do Sir Stuart.
I'm sorry.
I will.
Sir Stuart instead.
We should put Trump on the birthday list.
Why not?
Sir Stuart in Stafford, Staffordshire, UK, 252.70.
To my late father, Ken Walton, who died
24 years ago on Father's Day.
Putting a crimp in the celebration.
Pudding for a birdie.
Well, putting for a birdie on the 11th.
Reminds me of a million golf jokes.
On the 11th green at Bishop's Stortford Golf
Club in Hertfordshire.
Thinking of you on this special day, Dad,
for all the great dads.
Sir Stuart, the angry accountant.
All right.
Sir Donald.
Ah, Sir Donald of Calgary, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada,
233.99. In the morning, John and Adam,
please accept my donation of 222.22 USD.
He did give us.
It doesn't.
233.99 equals 222.22. I seems unlikely.
Isn't Canada almost like 40% down from
our U.S. dollar?
Wouldn't be up.
In honor of my dad, Dr. Cornell Philipschuck.
Philipschuck, who passed away due to bile duct
cancer this past January.
This is, this is sad, sad notes here.
While he left on his own terms, he
was gone too soon.
I miss you, Dad.
I've been in Edmonton for a while after
my dad's passing, but now I'm looking for
a house back in Calgary.
So kindly give me some house hunting karma
as I try to get my ducks in
a row.
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Isn't she from the club, Amy Lin?
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And there's Jen, the coffee lady in Bensonville,
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20615 is hey, guys, this is Jen, the
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You usually hear from Eli, but I wanted
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How nice is that?
Um, we got Paul Lepiane, Lepiane, I think.
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I have no idea.
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Add in a couple extra donations.
Finishing with an executive today from my lovely
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You can do it, too.
I'm vacationing in my birth state of Montana.
What a great Father's Day gift this is
for my keeper.
I would like to be Sir Mountain Man
of the Big Sky.
Thank you for your time and insight for
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Throw me a karma and the oldest jingle
in your catalog.
And then the most recent jingle in the
catalog.
The Alpha and Omega.
So I looked it up and the oldest
that I have in my catalog is actually,
I didn't even, I'd forgotten all about this.
Um, we have, in fact, we just played
this one.
It is the oldest one that we have.
It's a two-parter and that is the
WTC7 jingle.
And I'd forgotten that it consists of two
parts.
Here we go.
The oldest jingle in the catalog.
WTC7 won't go away.
That's right.
Wait, wait.
Part one.
Here comes.
I don't know how to tell my baby.
That's it.
That's the oldest one we have.
And I think that's right.
That's at least by file date.
That makes sense.
And then the most recent one.
Which is soon to be a class, an
instant classic, everybody.
You've got karma.
Huh?
Yeah, finally on the list.
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The reason I couldn't find it because I
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He's a Vietnam veteran.
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This is for Memorial Day 2025.
As you know, I served in combat during
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I want to emphasize that this year, the
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In fact, Bill O'Reilly mentioned in his
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Trump to have a special Vietnam vets in
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I don't know if it happened for this
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course, is more than 50 years.
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He was a handsome, he was like all
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So I promised some griping about AI.
Yeah, I thought that promise was a promise
for the future.
No, no.
Well, the future is here.
Welcome to the future.
It's actually two, two clips.
Apple had their big WWDC conference and, you
know, liquid glass.
It's gorgeous, but, but missing, missing from all
of the announcements was the, the overhyped and
overpromised Apple intelligence.
And the Wall Street Journal somehow, amazingly, got
an exclusive interview with Craig Federici.
You know, Craig, he's the chief of software.
And Greg Joswiak, he is the head of
marketing.
And he's like, hey, what happened to Siri?
Weren't you supposed, aren't you Apple?
What happened to Siri?
Where is our super Apple intelligence from Siri?
Yeah, you got liquid glass.
It's gorgeous.
But what about your AI strategy?
Last year, you announced a smarter AI driven
Siri.
Where is she?
We had a really two phase plan, two
versions of an architecture to deliver a great
Siri.
And as we got into the conference, we
had V1 working to do basic capabilities that
we showed off at the conference.
So we had some real software we were
able to demonstrate there and show what was
coming.
But it didn't converge in the way, quality
wise, that we needed it to.
That's Apple speak for it really sucked.
We had something working.
But then as you got off the beaten
path, and we know with Siri, it's open
ended what you might ask it to do,
what, and the data that might be on
your device that would be used in personal
knowledge.
And we wanted to be really, really reliable.
In other words, it was hallucinating.
And we weren't able to achieve the reliability
in the time we we thought.
But there was a working version of this.
This wasn't just, yeah, vaporware.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
Of course.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no.
It wasn't real.
It was a real demo.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
Of course, no, we were filming real working
software with a real large language model with
real semantic search.
That's what you saw.
Yeah, there's this narrative out there that yeah,
it was demo ware only.
know it was it was again something we
thought as Craig said would actually ship by
later in the year and look we don't
want to disappoint customers we want we never
do but it would been more disappointed ship
something that didn't hit our quality standard that
had you know an error rate that we
felt was unacceptable so we we made what
we thought was the best decision I'd make
it again Steve Jobs is rolling over in
his grave never would Steve Jobs admit defeat
like that he would blame it on the
user you're holding it wrong you did it
wrong you're doing it we'll send you a
rubber bumper but you're doing it wrong so
of course how is this possible you're your
Apple it's great that you set this high
bar you're also Apple I mean you've got
more engineers more cash than most companies maybe
any company why can't why couldn't make it
I mean this is this is new technology
I think when it comes to automating capabilities
on devices in a reliable way no one's
doing it really well right now and we
wanted to be the first we wanted to
do it best and I guess say we
had very promising early results and working initial
versions but not to the level that as
we began living on it internally and feeling
we're like this this just doesn't work reliably
enough to be an Apple product so this
stuff takes hard work but we do see
AI as as a long-term transformational wave
is one that's going to affect our industry
and then and of course our society for
decades to come we want to get it
right there's there's no need to rush out
with the wrong features and the wrong product
just to be first it can't be done
Apple won't do it because it's no good
it just is no good it's not gonna
happen if Apple can't do it who can
I mean they can make it look gorgeous
but no I don't think it can be
done John I don't think it can be
done it can be done but not by
Apple nah it's no no good it's not
all they had to do is just release
sir with a different voice and say it
was a I they would have gotten away
have anonymous Indians in the background just scrambling
and so we know that the kovat
shot is a very controversial in America because
people are losing access to it and just
because it's not recommended they're not losing access
but interestingly Canada is following suit healthy individuals
will be paying out of pocket if they
want a kovat 19 shot the province making
the announcement Friday it means starting this fall
most Albertans will have to pay full price
for the vaccines and the shots will be
administered through community health clinics not available at
pharmacies as they have been in years past
now there are exceptions seniors in supportive living
environments home care clients and those older than
65 or six months and older with any
underlying medical conditions or immunocompromised they're gonna kill
their seniors they just want to get rid
of them well that's Canada's whole thing oh
they always have the option to you know
you you're gonna have this heavy medical bill
or you can kill yourself well this has
been a Canada thing for some time I
happen to have two clips from Del Bigtree
you know Del Bigtree yeah and he had
on this woman what's her name Angelina Ireland
and she had quite an interesting story about
the so made is the name of the
is the acronym for medically assisted something death
what is it medically assisted induced death what
is it what is it for what does
it stand for again mad Canada medically assisted
Oh medical assistance in dying oh it's even
easier to remember medical it's not even a
night cool term is like so it seems
to be kind of a mandatory feature of
all health care in Canada at the time
when they were pushing made down on to
everybody who gets public money okay so any
any company that gets public money anywhere well
it's a public health care system everybody gets
public money so everyone's on it everybody's getting
money it's everybody it's everybody Wow so we
we did have a public partner partnership public
-private partnership with the Fraser Health Authority okay
and we were told in our hospice so
I became the president of the Delta Hospice
Society and we were told because we had
a hospice that we operated a facility that
we actually built we fundraised eight million dollars
we built it we got a land lease
for 35 years we built those buildings on
it we were told that if we want
money we're gonna have to start killing our
patients we're not killing our palliative care we
don't do that right the whole point is
just ease the suffering as they go through
this experience well life yeah until your natural
end which I could help you with yeah
right and so they said well you're not
getting any more money we said that's fine
we don't want your money and we don't
need your money Wow okay right so we
had we're sitting on this land with our
buildings so we had 25 years left on
that land lease so as soon as we
started to resist and be defiant not get
into lockstep they canceled that lease with 25
years left Wow right yeah it evicted us
from our buildings took our money away and
basically took our facility from us kicked us
off the land and expropriated those buildings eight
and a half million dollars worth add to
the government so the government walked in started
to operate our hospice with us gone and
provide euthanasia there man they're just killing their
citizens this is the medical system in both
countries we had that clip from the Joe
Rogan show last show yeah where the woman
talked about how the hospital is just killing
patients with the morphine overdose yes get rid
of them yeah get rid of them but
yeah this idea that well you know you
you get some money from us you got
to kill some of these people off I
mean there are there are drain as they're
useless eaters this is the kind of kind
of elitist mentality we're dealing with here you
know what good is it it was so
great so what grandma's in the she's okay
she's alive it's okay so what get rid
of her it's it's kind of ghoulish kind
of I mean this is this is the
thing people in Fredericksburg should be worried about
oh I'm sorry they're not because you know
President Trump is gonna roll out the med
beds and it's gonna be great you know
about the med beds don't you know here
we go the whole everyone's talk I thought
we mentioned this med beds med beds med
beds look it up med beds MED BEDS
explain the med beds oh it's a new
breakthrough and President Trump's gonna roll it out
they're gonna be everywhere the med bed is
you lay down on the bed no matter
what issue you have it has sonic vibrations
it will heal all the sonic vibration it
will heal you the med beds because we
know it's vibes that cause everything it does
the work vibes man I'll be vibe coding
on my med bed there's a second part
to this because of course Dell says sorry
I'm gonna tell you you can get clip
of the day for that oh well thank
you very much that that wasn't even expected
as a follow-up Dell said well what
about the media aren't they covering this a
period of time and all just because you're
like we're not gonna offer death as one
of the options in our hospice that's right
so you are now compelled you see and
this kind of made right is conquest and
then compel that's the dance that's the modus
operandi that they're using and that's going to
be facilitated by the court system by the
judiciary yeah right and all of ours our
court our courts and our judges are appointed
in Canada appointed by the government yes and
so the government is controlling the whole thing
and what's so what where's the media come
into this why is the media not pushing
back I mean because I mean here I
mean I know here we have pharmaceutical control
of our media so we'd be kind of
screwed here but you don't have that in
Canada no we have government control of our
media the government gives the media billions of
dollars so basically it's you know I joke
kind of not really that is like Soviet
style Pravda yeah that's our media so none
of the television stations they all get government
funding I'll get money but particularly the CBC
yeah that's the state media outlet and they
get money right and of course you know
we have never been able to get our
message on to the legacy media into the
mainstream media it's all very pro-maid so
people don't really even know how bad it
is oh that's why you get all your
Canadians listening to the no agenda show we'll
tell you how bad it is just give
in just become any government money well these
that we know of just we're getting that
Jew money though get enough Jew money or
government money all right five minute warning okay
well I got a couple of let's see
what we can do here I don't have
much left anyway well we could you know
I was watching a Netflix and there's a
special called cocaine flights or so there's some
cocaine specials very short documentary is it involves
Sarkozy oh and they were trying to try
to blame him for smuggling cocaine or something
and he says a joke but then meanwhile
this smear piece comes out on Sarkozy from
the BBC there they're out to get Sarkozy
the former French president Nicolas Sarkozy has been
stripped of France's highest honor the Legion d
'honneur as a result of his conviction for
corruption mr.
Sarkozy was found guilty of bribing a judge
four years ago and finally handed a three
-year sentence in December last year Wow I
didn't know that yeah of course not why
would you know mm-hmm so that my
last clip I'll play a tick-tock clip
oh thank goodness I'm gonna save one of
them for later but this one here is
this is these are embarrassing these are racist
clips that keep cropping up and it's not
like anyone's making these dumb women go online
and say stupid stuff and you have to
look at and say is she an actress
is this acting and you have to say
no I don't think it is and in
this case it's a woman complaining about having
her car repaired and she doesn't understand the
word catalytic she thinks it's Cadillac and so
she doesn't get the fact that she thinks
they're trying to convert her Jeep into a
Cadillac and it's just it's a mess I
love it when people think that I'm stupid
I love when people think that I'm stupid
because tell me why I'm at the mechanic
shop and he talking about I need a
Cadillac converter but I drive a Jeep make
it make sense I think I'm stupid ladies
when y'all going down to the mechanic
shops take somebody with y'all your brother
your uncle your daddy your boyfriend somebody stop
going to these mechanic shops by yourselves cuz
they know we don't know anything about cars
so they're trying to give us any type
of services that we services we don't even
need outrageous prices because I don't understand make
it make sense a Cadillac converter I don't
even have a Cadillac a Jeep converter maybe
they think we stupid ladies don't let these
mechanics play in your face and it'd be
the shade tree ones all the way down
to the dealerships they all try to play
in our faces so next time when I
go get my car fixed make best believe
I'm gonna have somebody with me because I'm
not playing with these people today I'm not
playing with these people they think they got
me but ain't got me I have a
since we're doing car talk I have a
car story so Tina went to get a
new car not a new car a year
old you know we're not stupid I gotta
buy a brand new car so she but
she goes the dealer she gets a year
-old car and she and I said just
make sure it has everything you want and
the one thing she asked for was adaptive
cruise control which is you know it's a
nice feature adaptive yeah so that it you
know you don't have you can just set
the cruise control it'll stay X amount of
car lengths behind the car in front of
you if the car slows down your car
slows down radar in the car okay LIDAR
whatever it's a call it's every car has
it these days so she gets the car
she comes back and it was my request
it was it wasn't even her she doesn't
care she's a car girl she likes to
drive she doesn't I don't want any cruise
controls for wimps so was my request I'm
a wimp I like I like adaptive cruise
control and I say oh that has cruise
control but it's not adaptive she says what
so but you know and we and I
said well if you want to go back
she's nice itself is fine is the big
f-word it's fine I don't need adapter
bar is her car yeah I just won't
drive your car cuz it doesn't have adaptive
cruise control it's her car she says it's
fine and then so she gets the survey
and she puts on the survey you know
not five stars four stars because and she
puts in there and Tina's a survey girl
too she fills out surveys because she's a
used to be in marketing and she's the
season is I would fill out the survey
let people know and she says yeah the
you know the the sales guy said it
had adaptive cruise control and didn't otherwise I'm
happy with the car the sales guy calls
her oh can I send you the survey
again because you know I get dinged in
my compensation if I don't get five stars
on everything so what is the point of
the survey oh this is classic this happened
to me when I was flying Emirates do
tell I've told the story in the show
before I don't think so you fly Emirates
air I'm going to Dubai and so you're
in the Emirates which is a great airline
I mean this is the most comfortable airline
and beautiful food of course everyone's all covered
up in burkas but besides that it's it's
a nice flight and at the before the
flight ends they have these magazines that they
give everybody they say on page six of
this magazine we want you to fill out
these surveys and then they monitor you and
so you have like three or four in
-flight magazine of magazines from various companies and
you and you have to it has which
is your favorite airline you got to check
Emirates and so they make and they check
your they check your work yeah you didn't
share what is this no no no not
cat day Pacific is the Emirates or they
throw this study throw them they'll throw it
out it's like what kind of a survey
is this they do this everywhere it's a
great airline but come on people yeah and
Tina also got a new phone her old
phone she had out of phone like five
years things falling apart so we go to
the T-Mobile store you know and it
takes forever it takes longer to get a
phone than a car yeah oh is it
back it up and move it over up
on T-Mobile for this exact reason and
then as we're about ready to leave the
guy says you know you'll get a survey
it would be great if you could give
me five stars because anything less and I
get dr.
my commission what is the point of the
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in your life to any emergency no agenda
meetups calm the big group in Indy they
sent in their meetup report for June hello
this is sir mark and this is day
Maria happy June and a tribe so glad
to see everybody for the start of June
not a from Indianapolis voice is unfortunately gone
from yesterday's sports ball game but thank you
for your courage hey guys it's Diane in
Indiana and we all just want to know
when you coming back this is Kyra from
Indiana no Florida no Indiana no Florida well
it doesn't matter comes to here with those
great people in Indy no agenda tribe thanks
it's Tom not from Carmel in Indy Jason
from Westfield first meetup had a great time
peace in Christ hey this is Carl from
Indianapolis I heard that Adam came to visit
one of the meetups I'm wondering when John's
coming next hey Gary here I hope they
get this tariff war done because I'm down
to two white beaters one flip-flop and
nine designer jeans I this is Adrian here
at the dugout we had the no agenda
group and it was great to have him
here today co-pacers yeah Pacers doing okay
I hear I'm reliably informed in the sports
ball world and then we had the Copenhagen
meetup I think this was the first one
and it was attended producer Paul here we're
enjoying the sunshine and having a great meetup
and I just want to say which I
think is shut up slave in Copenhagen ish
underneath some chemtrails it's nice weather nice meetup
great people give it over to Michael hi
I'm Michael I'm sitting here five Dutch people
and one French truly give donation hello this
is Frank aka Mike normally from Amsterdam now
in Copenhagen in the morning I reached out
to Paul in Copenhagen because we knew we
were coming here connection is protecting guys hello
I'm Julie I'm the French person I'm a
funny I only listen to one episode but
I'm highly motivated in the morning no server
included in the report but we let you
slide cuz you're from Copenhagen thank you very
much we have meetups coming up on Tuesdays
and Wednesdays so if you Tuesday this is
the big one in con at the Lions
festival of creativity four o'clock at the
Dukes pub in con France look for we
GG we GG will be hosting that I
hope we can get a good meetup report
from con we have next show day Thursday
Charlotte's thirsty third Thursday 7 o'clock at
Edge Tavern in Charlotte North Carolina coming up
on the 20th Victoria British Columbia the 21st
Bedford Texas Fort Wayne Indiana Central Jersey Detroit
local one on the 22nd Key New Hampshire
New York City on the 26th of June
Alpharetta Georgia as well Indianapolis part 2 on
the 29th and Longview Texas on the 29th
of June these are just a few of
the no agenda meetups you can find every
single one of them listed right there on
no agenda meetups calm it's searchable you can
upload reports you can search it by calendar
by date by location if you can't find
one on no agenda meetups calm start one
yourself it's easy and always a party still
to come we have our bomb bomb Moran
and to show mixes you will love that
that's a little ditty if you haven't heard
it five times in our history before because
it always seems to pop up for some
reason very interesting we're always trying to bomb
Iran John's tip of the day coming up
as well but first we search for the
end of show ISOs I don't think I
have a winner so I will go first
don't touch the hair man I'm glad not
a good end of show but it's a
good bit to just a half yeah no
good I agree what do you have I
have one only hmm and I brought back
one of my favorite girls yes I just
love this show so sexy don't touch the
hair man I just love this show so
sexy everybody but before you even get to
that it's John's tip of the day created
by Dana Burnett II okay well Mimi reminded
me that I have I have a rotation
for these tips and this is the cleaning
product that I do every couple months another
cleaning products beautiful cleaning products people need cleaning
people always can use a good cleaning product
yes I agree this is a good one
it's been tested this is leather honey leather
honey now there's different products you can get
for to keep your leather fresh especially if
you have a car with a leather interior
because it gets hot in there it is
and it dehydrates the leather yes the leather
gets all crackly and you and you need
to keep it hydrated and leather honey now
they also have a conditioner that the conditioners
the one you want they also have a
cleaner there's a cleaner and a conditioner but
the cleaner you can use anything to clean
your leather but it's the conditioner that you
want leather honeys run it's not cheap it's
around $16 and it's it's terrific it's a
terrific leather product do you use this on
the 27 year old Lexus on the leather
seats in the Lexus yes you can use
it on it yes and you use it
on the indoor outdoor dashboards it's particularly good
on German cars which have which crack really
fast the German leathers junk do you know
what they've done with the new Lexus friend
of mine brought it brought a new Lexus
and you know what they have now on
the Lexus if you look away from the
the road in front of you too long
the car says hey look at the road
if you start slouching it tells you hey
sit up straight and you can't turn it
off as far as I know oh that
yeah this is the Lexus nag 3,000
yes the famous Dana Brunetti who celebrated his
52nd birthday just recently what a baby he's
such a baby he's a newbie and newbie
coming up we have the end of show
mixes we've got oh we've got the clip
custodian Neil Jones we have Jeffrey croaky who's
back and then we have instant night me
and Ben Tunes tune said with the classic
bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Moran mix-ups
for the end of show mix and coming
right up if you can listen to the
live stream I guess we've had some troubles
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look forward to seeing y'all on Thursday
and I would say coming to you from
the heart of the Texas Hill Country home
of the new med beds happy Father's Day
everybody in the morning I'm Adam Curry man
from the other Silicon Valley where we also
wish you a happy Father's Day of John
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mofos who we who we and such Oh
not create any violence nobody was shot nobody
was killed get it in your head don't
think that somehow because they called out the
National Guard there was there was no bow
I was on the streets as
an opportunity and they moved in and they're
just playing right in at Donald Trump's hand
going in hard bottom bottom bottom bottom bottom
bottom and then bottom again bottom bottom bottom
bottom bottom bottom bottom bottom bottom but who's
gonna drop a nuke here this should be
played at high volume preferably in a residential
area because this is my point we need
ever been working in this city really badly
who are they going to get to pick
all the food and the vegetables because I
because that this is my point you know
think back y'all wherever you heard that
food is gonna be sitting and rocking because
there's no one to grab it I love
that that's a fantasy of mine I dream
about it now that's the way it's supposed
well I've been called hysterical for because Americans
don't want to do we know that the
farmers are saying the Americans don't want to
do that because I because that this is
my point that's the way it's supposed to
be I just want to say you know
construction places you're gonna have a lot of
time trying to people who are going to
be able to come and do you have
we the people we bomb them
we need to kill and bomb them bomb
them we need to kill and bomb them
bomb them we need to bomb them we
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