Turn the plane around.
Adam Currie, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Thursday, April 17, 2025.
This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media
assassination episode 1756.
This is no agenda.
Behind the trade lines and broadcasting live, parallel
to Runway 24 at Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam,
the Netherlands.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Currie.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we want
to bring back Eliane Gonzalez from Costa Rica.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
It's crackpot and buzzkill.
In the morning.
Who, is that the guy in El Salvador?
Remember Eliane Gonzalez?
Oh, the kid, the kid.
The little kid where they put a big
gun in his face.
And they took him out of the country.
This is, I think, during Clinton or whenever.
No, no, it was Obama.
It was during Obama.
Obama.
Obama, okay.
Yeah, it was Obama.
And so they rousted this kid and shoved
it.
They just took him out of the country
and sent him to Cuba.
That was great.
Nobody made a fuss about that.
It was great.
No, it was a little bit of a
fuss.
Yeah, but not like the fuss we're getting
over this guy.
It was hilarious.
That was so cool.
If I recall, we had quite the field
day with that.
But Eliane Gonzalez?
Yes, of course we did.
Poor kid.
When was that?
Hold on a second.
Nobody made a fuss about that kid.
And they took him out of the country
without a hearing.
Hold on a second.
He wasn't a gay hairdresser.
We talked about, yeah, wait, 2020?
No, 2016.
Yeah, it was at the end of Obama.
Let me see.
No, we talked about it then, but it
was, maybe it was during, I don't know.
It was during Clinton.
Okay.
Yeah, I think it was during Clinton.
Holy crap.
Well, that's before the show.
It doesn't count.
Oh, well.
Anyway, I'm here in the Netherlands, John.
Don't they sell like your next door?
I know, the technology is amazing.
And I have to tell you, even though
I'm getting a little too old for this,
going until one in the morning on jet
lag, I'm very happy I came.
We needed this for the show.
Why?
Because I got a firsthand boots on.
Our Dutch producers have not, or any of
our EU producers for that matter, have not
really been doing a good job of telling
us what's going on here.
Well, that is not much of a surprise.
First of all, if you drive a Tesla
in Europe, you are the biggest a-hole
in the universe.
People have bought other cars and parked their
Tesla in the garage.
They do not drive Teslas.
And why might this be?
Elon Musk.
What's Elon Musk got to do with Europe?
That's my point.
Going through the books over there?
Is he over there?
That's my point.
They hate him just because you're supposed to
hate him.
People here.
Well, first of all, it's very gray and
depressing.
That is not a big surprise.
And that never helps.
It can't be.
It's April.
April showers, May flowers.
Come on.
No, no, no.
Remember, it always rains on Queen's Day or
King's Day.
So it's up until April 30th.
No.
No, it's gray and depressing.
Uh, people hate Elon Musk.
Why?
It doesn't well.
Does the media have them under such control
over there?
Yes.
And yes, again.
Wow.
And, and I was.
And the question is, why?
How does the media get control to such
an extreme that they care about Elon Musk
as a, as a, uh, as a point
of interest?
That's the, that's the baffling part.
But I went to, I'm here for two
reasons.
Um, of course, to see my daughter.
I'll see her tomorrow.
But I came for, uh, my buddy Lex's
80th birthday.
He was the guy who first hired me
at Radio Veronica when I was 19 years
old.
We've remained friends and he decided to do
a big party.
200 guests, handpicked, only, only special people, uh,
Casablanca themed.
And, uh, it was everybody from Dutch radio,
television, and music.
Anybody who was anybody was here.
And Holy moly, they are completely mind controlled.
But with it, with a little bit of
a twist, I'll say with a little bit
of a twist.
But it has to be somewhat different.
No, no, no, no.
So everybody's like, Hey, Adam, how you doing?
Yeah, I'm doing great.
Oh, you look good.
Okay.
Right after that.
Hey, uh, you live in Texas?
Yeah.
Are you a Trump supporter?
The Trump, Trump supporter?
Everyone had the same question.
Not did you vote for Trump?
Are you a Trump supporter?
I said, well, I support any president as
far as I can.
But yeah, I voted for him.
And then you see their faces go, huh?
You know, it's like the switch is flipped.
But, uh, isn't he a racist?
What?
John, I'm not kidding.
And people just like they, they, they, they
couldn't compute.
They couldn't navigate me, the nice 19 year
old kid they saw come in and who
they knew for 40 years with someone who
actually supports his president and might've voted for
Trump.
And you see the brain freeze occur.
And he, yeah, but, uh, but, uh, but,
uh, what is he doing?
We don't understand what he's doing.
Oh, okay.
Calm down.
And so he, and I, after two or
three of these conversations, I, I figured out
the switch and I figured out what's going
on.
So I said, let me just tell you
why America voted for him.
But wait, wait, it wasn't a landslide.
Oh man.
You can just see the media and these
people are in media.
So they're in the milieu.
So that's all they're a part of.
And this is what was so great about
this.
This is not taxi Eric who drives me
around.
Taxi Eric's like, we need a statue of
Trump on damn square.
Okay, Eric, we understand that you, you get
it.
But these people in the milieu, they, they
do not understand.
They're, they're completely engulfed in it.
And so then I would say, well, you
know we have like 20 million people who
came in illegally say 20 million to, yeah,
that's probably about the right estimate.
And a million of those are criminals.
So we're getting those out.
And everybody seems to be happy.
The cities, everyone's happy with that.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
I said, and this gender ideology, you know,
we have man, woman, no boys and girls
sports and none of this DEI.
And they go, oh yeah, yeah.
And that, that would flip the switch.
And they go, yeah, I wish we had
someone who did that here.
And there it was because they are so
completely inundated, suppressed, told to shut up about
immigration, about DEI gender ideology, about climate change
still funny enough.
And, and, and until you explain to them
what the big things were and they can
all of a sudden identify, then they go,
oh, then they get this kind of look
of bewilderment.
And then usually they'll say, well, well, you
know but now we have to, you know,
get a big military cause America's going to
desert us and Russia's going to take over.
At that point I gave up.
Really?
It's, it was sad.
It was sad to see.
And, and I think, you know, people kind
of avoided me at certain times during the
evening.
I bet they did.
That guy's no good.
He's crazy.
And then, you know, then the Elon Musk
stuff would come up like, what are you
talking about?
What has he done here?
Well, you know, he's part of Trump.
He's a Trump supporter.
And meanwhile, here in the Netherlands, you know,
they have Geert Wilders.
This was the guy, right?
He was, oh yes, he's our Dutch Trump.
And, and nothing's happening.
They now, a law went into effect, which,
what is the name of it, where they
have to spread out the asylum seekers throughout
the, throughout the country because it was only,
you know, a couple of small villages, obviously
down, way down south or way out east
who got all these asylum seekers.
So they have these asylum seeker centers and
now they're spread out all over the country
and people are losing their ever loving minds.
They're, they're burning down city, city halls, you
know, little, in their little towns.
They're throwing eggs at the city council and,
and no one knows what to do.
Farmers selling their big, beautiful dairy cows at
auction because, whoop, sorry, nitrogen.
I got too many points on my cows.
Everything that, that, that Geert Wilders was supposed
to stop is not, has not been stopped.
It's a huge disappointment.
Really bizarre.
It sounds very dystopian.
Well, I'm sure that this is happening in
every country in Europe.
Here, the Dutch, look, look how far they
went in Germany with all the hate speech
stuff.
England, where they throw somebody in jail for,
for a tweet, a mom.
So, and of course, you know, oh, everyone's,
oh, Adams, Adams, he's a believer now.
Yo, he's a, he's a, he's a Jesus
freak.
And so one or two came up to
me and said- Well, you're lucky you
didn't get locked up.
Well, listen to this.
One or two came up to me, people,
and I said, oh, I'm so, thank you
for being so bold.
I, it's really, it was nice to hear
that.
So what, what do you mean?
Well, we have to be kind of quiet
here about our Christian faith because Christians are
now immediately associated with Israel and therefore you're
genocidal.
Yeah, that's the silence I had.
Really?
Yep.
Who comes up with these schemes?
Satan.
Who else could be doing it?
Thank you, Dana Carvey.
Yeah, it's really, it's, it's messed up.
It's messed up.
So- Well, the fact that these people
are all hook, line, and sinkered, and you're
dealing with an elite group because that party
was a bunch of elitists, let's face it.
But they are the media, so this is
what's being perpetrated.
And they're the media elite, which is worse.
And they're all in, they're all in hook,
line, and sinker.
Well, no, not exactly because when you, when
you tell them the main points, and it's
the exact same things they're going through here
- Yeah, but superficially at least.
Yeah.
Because yeah, you have to talk them down.
Yeah.
But how long does that, how long do
you think that works?
When you leave?
Oh, no, the minute I was gone, they
were like, oh my God, can you believe?
What's wrong with that guy?
You might as well wear a swastika.
Yeah, you might as well wear a swastika.
And then the next big thing here.
Okay, everybody, attention, attention, everybody.
Where am I?
Attention, attention, everybody.
Do not eat any backyard chickens or eggs.
Don't eat the chickens or eggs.
They are contaminated with PFAS.
Remember PFAS?
Yeah.
That nonsense.
What's it got to do with chickens?
You can't eat the chickens.
You can't eat your own chickens' eggs because
they're probably contaminated with PFAS.
Oh, PFAS.
Oh, yeah, I heard about that.
I am so sad.
I'm so, so sad.
There's nothing more healthy than a backyard egg.
No, not what is contaminated and seething with
PFAS, whatever that is.
Wow.
Yeah, wow was...
And then a guy I knew.
I think you should take another trip or
on the way.
Too bad you can't make a side trip
to England to see what a mess that's
turned into.
They won't let me in.
I'm sure I'm on a list.
Are you kidding me?
Oh, there's that guy.
He hurts people's feelings.
Arrest him, roust him.
So speaking of, there was a very nice
Turkish lady married to a guy.
He's like a bank guy or something, speaking
of elite.
And this is his new wife.
And so she doesn't speak Dutch, a little
bit of Dutch.
And as they're leaving, you know, and they're
waiting for the car and I'm talking to
her.
And I said, so what's going on with
Erdogan?
She said, oh, it's crazy.
Did you know, John, that there are three
mayors who have been incarcerated?
Not one, three.
No, I only know about the one.
That's the only thing we've been told.
Yeah, 180 teenage students who were demonstrating, incarcerated,
not arrested.
That, we did know that.
They're in jail still.
And she said, anybody who goes against Erdogan,
boom, you're arrested, you're done.
That's not really being, you know, that's not
really being played up the way evil dictator
Putin is.
Which, by the way, they completely buy into.
Oh, no.
Yeah, we gotta, we gotta got our defenses
going here.
Because, you know, when you guys pull out.
Any minute now.
And then there's the big NATO splash.
The splash.
You remember the NATO splash, which Margarita was
telling us about?
The NATO splash.
Donald, come to the NATO Hague.
We make a big splash.
Well, this is making people happy.
So they're going to shut down two major
highways.
How do you keep, did you write, take
notes?
Of course I did.
Hey, I gotta deduct this.
Material here.
You've already overflowed the memory banks.
But it's important.
So this is a big NATO summit meeting
in the Hague.
So they're going to be shutting down all
your two big highways for, I think, two
months.
So you won't even be able to get
to Scheveningen, which is one of the main
piers on the on the coast.
So no beach for you.
You can't go to the miniature town, Majurodam,
your favorite.
That's not going to happen.
Majurodam.
Miniature town is my favorite.
They're closing that for four months.
So why?
Because of the big splash.
So retail, of course, you know, these are
the busiest months for them.
Summer months.
Nope, nope.
All of that is screwed.
They're putting Patriot and Stinger missile installations into
the dunes.
You know, because you never know.
You never know what might happen.
Someone might try to get those NATO guys.
It's going to cost about 100 million euros.
Wait, so what you're telling me is that
because Trump's going to show up at a
meeting at NATO and all the NATO guys
are going to get together.
Who said Trump's going?
I don't even think Trump will show.
Why would he?
I don't think he should.
No, why would he?
I would recommend against it.
This is crazy.
Yeah, so the Dutch...
And then...
And so their army...
So what they're doing is they're fortifying.
They're spending all this 100 million dollars to
fortify the area in and around the meeting
spot to prevent Putin from attacking.
Yes, yes, of course.
And destroying NATO on the spot because there's
this opportunity.
That's it.
You're right.
And in the process, they're going to shut
down all the businesses, all the highways, all
the fun, all that miniature land and everything
in between.
Yeah, that's right.
Really?
Yeah.
But wait.
What idiots.
But wait, there's more.
What were the two things that...
Well, there were two things that were promised
definitely would happen with the formation of the
European Union, which was you won't need a
passport to get between all the countries in
the European Union.
We'll have the same money.
Don't worry.
It's all going to be great.
You'll have the same money.
And we'll never, ever have a European army.
Oops, we know that's broken.
What was the other thing we'd never, ever
have in the European Union?
Uh, I don't know.
A federal tax from Brussels.
Oh, the federal tax.
Oh, well, wouldn't you know it?
2027, everybody will now, in addition to your
local country taxes, will have a EU tax.
And this tax will be based on...
Oh, what do you think it could be?
Whatever it is, it's not good.
Your carbon footprint.
No.
Yes, based on the amount of gasoline you
use in your car.
Oh, well, that means that people, they have
the great advantage in the 10-minute city.
Yeah, well, that would be next.
Based upon gasoline or diesel you put in
your car, or they still use liquid petroleum
gas sometimes here.
I don't think that much anymore.
And any natural gas, if you are still
one of those people who has, God forbid,
natural gas, if you have a gas oven
or a gas stove, well, you're going to
get dinged.
And I didn't know this, but they have
already published the EU carbon permits price.
This kind of snuck in, or I guess
they approved a certain market.
So currently, one ton of CO2 will cost
you 67 euros.
But they say by the time the tax
goes in, it could be between 100 and
200 euros a ton, which means most people
would wind up paying between 300 and 500
euros a year extra just for the carbon
tax.
And that's always the beginning.
So I don't blame these people for being
in a bad mood.
Yeah, they'd be...
Anyway, yeah.
In a bad mood.
It's Musk's fault, by the way.
Yeah, Musk, the guy who actually is trying
to help you get away from your carbon
tax.
Oh, no.
So, yeah, it was bizarre.
Just bizarre.
Good to see everybody, though.
I was the one smiling.
Hey, everybody.
I'm from Texas, y'all.
That was the clincher.
That would definitely be the clincher.
I'm from Texas, y'all.
From Texas.
So, yeah.
So that was my big travel report.
Oh, one other thing.
Yes, I forgot.
As a part of the climate change, I
had lunch with Tiffany, my sister, today.
And she's saying, you know, yeah, because she
and her husband, they like to travel.
So, you know, it's easy.
She works at Schiphol.
So she has all kinds of discounts and
she can move around easily.
And so they'll go to Spain or Italy
for a couple of days, you know, whatever.
Because she runs a couple of these stores
here.
So she has a pretty intense job.
So she gets to take time off.
And she says, but, you know, we don't
have any, what was the term?
Fliegschamte.
Flying shame is a term here.
Do you have flying shame?
Flying shame.
Does that have something to do with your
carbon footprint?
You bet.
The more you fly, the dirtier you are.
You should be shamed of flying.
They call it flying shame.
Wow.
Good show title.
But it's okay for DiCaprio and the others
with their private jets to be flying constantly
all over the place for these climate summits.
Don't try and bring any logic into the
equation.
That's really not going to help at all.
Apparently not.
In other news, they didn't blow up.
No, I do have the Katy Perry commentary,
though, which is kind of a blow up.
Okay, well, I have a couple of things
I want to mention, but let's do your
commentary.
Katy Perry.
This is what happens after you take a
12 minute flight into space.
I don't know.
They don't even get into space, really.
They just kind of shoot up into the
air.
But I don't know what was the altitude
they finally achieved.
80,000 feet, maybe.
I don't know.
Okay.
I hope they can see the unity.
That we modeled and replicate that and understand
that we weren't just taking up space.
We were making space for the future.
And for me, like Gail said, this wasn't
a ride.
It wasn't a destination.
It was a journey.
And it was a supernatural one.
And my journey has always been about love
and belonging.
And I think that we have all felt
that sometimes we weren't worthy or we didn't
belong in certain ways, no matter all the
accolades, no matter all the studying, no matter
anything.
And I think today we all said it
like we belong here.
This is where we belong.
And we feel very sure of that.
So I think that you'll never know the
amount of love that you have inside of
you to give and to receive until the
day you launch, because you're leaving all the
love behind and you're surrendering and you're hoping
that you get another chance to love them
again.
And so when you come back down, you're
like, oh, I get another chance and I'm
going to do it.
Oh my God.
Now I'm crying.
Okay.
That's your brain on drugs, children.
You know, I'm going to go.
That is exactly right.
I'm going to go.
This is your brain on drugs.
I got to go a little deeper on
this one, because this was, of course, all
about women, women being teams, women doing their
thing, women being women, women being feminine, women
being just the best in the world, making
space, taking space.
Here's an NBC report.
Blasting off for 11 unforgettable minutes.
The first all-female space crew in more
than 60 years.
One, two, three.
Woo!
Including pop star Katy Perry and journalist Gayle
King, along with Lauren Sanchez, the fiance of
Blue Origin founder Jeff Bezos.
The historic six marveling at the moon and
the earth.
And you look at it and you're like,
we're all in this together.
While floating for four minutes, Katy Perry, weightless
with a daisy in hand.
Her daughter's namesake.
New Shepard's booster rocket landing first.
This reusable booster that took them up now
safely back on the ground.
The massive rocket ready for its next mission
amid the space tourism boom.
Then in front of a star-studded crowd,
the astronauts all smiles back on earth.
It's about making space for future women and
taking up space and belonging.
Amanda Nguyen, emotional.
After becoming the first Vietnamese woman in space.
She's a survivor of sexual assault, carrying aboard
a painful reminder.
And it's a hospital man.
For anyone who's ever had to struggle through
life circumstances that weren't their choice.
I want you to know that you will
make it through.
And those magical moments on board, the start
of a shared space sisterhood.
Celebrated amongst the stars.
Amusement park ride.
So this is all about women.
It's about the women.
Everything is woman.
We are woman.
Women, women, women of blue origin, team blue,
women, women here.
Female host woman.
I don't know if that would ever get
old if I were you guys to hear
that I am an astronaut.
And an unbelievable thing you guys can now
say that you are.
We are going to hear from all of
you guys in a second.
But there are over 10,000 employees here
at Blue Origin.
There are so many people that have put
their heart and soul and their brains into
this operation to make it possible to do
what you guys did today.
How many times are you going to say
you guys to this group of women?
You guys, you guys, what happened to that
not being a thing?
Yeah, used to be condemned for saying that.
You guys, you guys, it should be at
least gals.
No, I was.
That's worse.
And then so first up is Sanchez.
And I don't know.
I don't know if she must have not
had a chat with Jeff about about space.
I mean, space is, you know, it's it's
about getting out there and exploring new worlds
and new civilizations and going to places and
and learning about what where we possibly could
move to.
Am I right?
Grab a few rocks.
Isn't that kind of the idea of of
privatized space flight?
It's to go out and and we're excited
about, you know, maybe Mars or maybe return
returning to the moon.
Well, Sanchez didn't get the memo.
Thank you so much, Audrey.
There's so many things that I just thought
about as I heard you speaking.
And I want to get into it with
all of you guys.
Lauren, congratulations.
I'm going to start with you in researching
this entire process.
I heard a lot about the overview effect,
and it was something that I didn't know
anything about, but the overview effects.
OK, so remember, it's supposed to be about
going to new places, commercial space travel, the
future, the world.
This universe is our oyster.
What I have learned that you now will
be able to share to experience is because
when people that go up to space and
see from space, they come back and their
perception of Earth is different.
We have one planet because out there it's
dark.
It is, you know, William Shatner even said
this when he went to space.
And now I understand what he was talking
about.
It's like death.
And baby, baby, we're supposed to want people
want to go out.
Don't tell them it's death out there.
No, it just made me want to come
back with an open heart.
And it really opened me wide open.
And hopefully I can bring that to other
people and also just protect this planet we're
on.
I mean, there's this is the only one
we've got.
So I'm utterly humbled by this experience.
Wow.
And and beyond grateful.
Worst endorsement ever.
It's death out there.
That's a great.
I mean, you know, I'm going to give
you a borderline borderline clip of the day
for that.
I'll take a borderline.
Because what she's this is a negative sales
pitch.
It's like it's you were all doomed.
This is the only planet.
You don't really understand how doomed we are
until you take this horrible trip.
It's death.
I tell you.
Now, let's just talk about symbolism.
So this rocket is called the new shepherd.
Who was the old shepherd?
The good shepherd.
Jesus.
OK, so this is the new shepherd.
Fine.
Katy Perry's uniform, a Baphomet insignia on her
uniform.
There was?
Yes.
She's got she she holds up a monarch
butterfly.
Inside the castle.
Yes.
And by the way, the rocket's a dildo.
We also we've all seen, we know that
the market's a dildo.
That's that's been long since established.
And so I was I didn't catch it
live.
They had a dildo rocket on the back
of a lot of these jerseys that they
were wearing.
Well, why not?
So it was kind of odd because I
recall when Bezos went up the first time
they had in capsule live footage and they
didn't have that this time.
You only had audio.
And so by the time they got and
maybe that was a just a what do
they call it?
A glitch.
So you only had audio.
And then by the time they got back
down, then an hour or so later, they
had some ink in, you know, the in
capsule video of them floating around Katy Perry
with her monarch butterfly.
But they changed the audio.
Of I think I'm pretty sure it's Katy
Perry of what she was screeching about when
she was up in space.
So this may be hard for you to
hear.
I don't know if the trolls be able
to hear it.
But and I'm not even going to tell
you what she says.
I don't want to put it into your
mind.
But she'll say it twice.
Now, what did you like, goddess?
Yes, of course.
Of course, to the evil goddess.
Oh, that's interesting.
And that has been cut out of the
of the video they've published.
You only hear an oh, my goodness.
So play it again.
I would have to look at the moon.
Look.
Now, if you play it backwards, she says,
hail Satan.
But but I'm telling you, I hear anything
you play backwards.
So but this this is creepy.
You know, she used to be a gospel
singer.
She completely and there's some some interview of
her out there saying, I was a gospel
singer.
And I love the church.
You know, I had a friend.
I don't have a friend of mine used
to work in her managerial crew or something
for Katy Perry.
Katy Perry.
And he he told me that she was
she had told him that she would sell
herself to any she was just anything to
be famous.
She would give up anything.
Well, she made a big fuss about this.
Well, she's obviously this is what happened.
Yes, this I don't think it's even a
question, which is why I was joking about,
you know, being a Satanist.
No, it's not a joke.
It's not a joke.
And then add in the MK Ultra monarch
butterfly and all of the symbolism.
And seriously, if you look at a uniform
bafflement, it's getting a little thick.
It's too much.
We're catching on.
Back off, lady.
Back off.
Exactly.
Back off.
Even bafflement would have her back off.
Yes, the devil always overplays his hand.
And it's true.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, we can go lots of places from
here.
I think we've handled that.
Did you see Tucker by any chance?
I did not see Tucker, but I know
he talked to a couple of interesting people
lately.
Do you have some clips that we should
be listening?
Yeah, I do.
He talked to Kurt Weldon, who was actually,
I think it was a pretty powerful Republican
representative around 9-11.
Oh, he's the one who discussed 9-11?
Yes.
And the whole episode is completely worth listening
to.
So I just pulled a couple of clips.
It's just a flavor, just a taste of
what it is.
But it's very interesting that he, at this
point, when everyone's so focused on JFK, RFK,
MLK, Epstein, he's saying, no, no, we've got
to open up the true files on 9
-11.
And he just went all off on it.
Do I think 9-11 is going to
be the biggest scandal in our lifetime and
beyond?
Yes, I think it's going to be the
biggest scandal in the history of America because
it occurred on U.S. soil and because
it is so recent that we have relevant
information still available.
That's right.
We have recorded information.
We have personal information.
Once people realize they can talk and not
be afraid of being killed or not being
afraid of being ostracized.
And you know what gets me is reporters
who call people conspiracy theorists.
Well, that's all the agency does.
They're the ones who create the conspiracies.
I'm aware.
I mean, cut me a break.
I'm aware.
They have whole courses for their agents on
how to make people look like they're conspiracy
theorists.
And the propaganda operations they find to discredit.
Exactly.
Right.
And all we want is the truth.
Of course.
So Trump, appoint people of impeccable integrity.
Let them study the facts.
I will testify under oath everything I know
about intelligence.
Let these 3,000 architects who are risking
their careers, making nothing, let them testify under
oath.
So they really just he started a big
ruckus after this happened, after the 9-11
report came out, even before that.
And so they, you know, they really took
this guy down.
He's got a whole story about that.
And he goes into who made money off
of this.
And of course, you know, there was the
the Iraq invasion, etc.
But in this in these clips, he focuses
on, you know, what can we prove?
And of course, we all heard the explosions.
It's kind of interesting that, you know, I
think Tucker is even surprised.
Has he not seen any of the Alex
Jones four hour long movies?
I mean, come on, everyone my age has
seen these.
There has been this subtle pressure to the
firefighters and to the officers not to talk
for obvious reasons.
You know what this involves politically.
Look what happened to the chief of L
.A. The female chief of L.A. comes
out and says that the resources were taken
away from her for the field forest fires.
And what does the mayor do?
She fires her.
That was just a few weeks ago.
The firefighters are always a scapegoat.
That's why, Tucker, I'm done with this.
It was the last thing I do.
Firefighters are not going to be taken for
granted anymore.
We're going to rise up.
We're going to shake the country to its
roots.
Firefighters are not second class citizens.
Well, they certainly shouldn't be.
But if they talk, they'll get sidelined.
They'll be called crazies, even though they heard
explosions.
They can't be they can't be allowed to
say that they heard explosions.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's on tape.
What people coming out of the buildings?
I know, I know.
I mean, the number of people that said
they heard explosions right after the event is
numerous.
Forget Alex Jones.
It was on NBC.
They're all on television saying they heard explosions,
explosions.
We have film footage.
And people didn't know.
This is bullcrap.
What the Tucker didn't know.
Something's fishy about Tucker being aghast at this.
Everybody heard these guys talking about explosions, whether
they believed it or not.
You know, Tucker is the first to say,
and I think even says it in the
last clip, that he's embarrassed that he was
all in.
He told people who said Building 7, you
know, was imploded.
He called them nut jobs.
He does say that.
Having seen these people last night reminded me
when you're in that milieu, he was at
CNN at the time.
What do you think he was supposed to
believe?
You know, he heard it from insiders, from
sources say, from his colleagues, from the top
brass.
Why would he question it?
I'm going to give him a half pass.
That heard explosions.
We have film footage of people that talked
to Fox News that was taken off the
air.
And then now it was brought back by
X.
That's all available.
That's why you need a commission to go
back and look at all the lies.
And pardon my ignorance, but there are people
on tape saying I heard explosions.
Yes, absolutely.
100 percent.
There's gambling going on there.
I can't believe it.
Hold on a second.
I have to back you off on this
idea that, OK, he was working for CNN
at the time.
But since then, where has he been that
he's that he's shocked?
This this interview was like within the last
week.
So until within the last week, yeah, he
still hasn't heard about somebody talking about the
explosions.
You know, remember, this is the guy who
the NSA spied on him when he was
trying to go to.
I think he was Priya.
I'm just still going to give him a
quarter pass now that he was being spied
on by NSA, that he was going to
Russia.
They released his text messages.
So he may just not.
He was looking at JFK, RFK, MLK, Epstein.
Maybe it just wasn't top of mind.
Here's the last clip.
They're the only high rise buildings in the
world that have ever come down from an
airplane hitting them.
And those buildings, I read the report from
the architect who designed them.
They were designed to withstand an airplane hitting
the building and standing tall.
And especially building seven, which had no plane
hit it right.
No plane hit it.
And the building just you can see it
when you watch it on TV.
It just implodes straight down.
And what really got me again was Oriel
Palmer, the battalion chief arising on the...
Well, tell us who he was.
What is...
Oriel Palmer was one of the most inspirational
battalion chiefs in New York.
FDNY.
FDNY, who immediately in very good shape, had
a family, a couple of...
What was that, by the way?
FDNY?
What is that?
That was an odd little thing to throw
in there.
It's like a code.
Yeah, yeah.
Something going on there.
Oriel Palmer was one of the most inspirational
battalion chiefs in New York.
FDNY.
FDNY, who immediately in very good shape, had
a family, a couple of kids.
Went into the building as soon as they
got on the scene.
Took the elevator up to the 40th floor.
Got off the elevator, and you can hear
him on the comms system saying, I'm here,
40th floor.
We're going to start walking up the stairwells.
Every five floors, he radios back to communicate.
I'm on the 50th floor.
Everything's okay.
We're on floor 60.
Everything's okay.
He's going up every so many floors.
He gives a report.
He reaches the 78th floor, the floor of
impact.
He comes out of the stair tower, and
as clear as you listening to me here,
and I know I get passionate, and I
apologize to the arresters for that.
He says, we're on floor 78, the floor
of impact.
We've got two fires, and we can handle
them.
One minute later, the whole building collapses.
That's not normal.
That is not acceptable.
That is not what happened, and this is
on tape.
It's on tape.
Yeah, the whole interview was good.
I mean, he doesn't really- Did they
bring up the point about my favorite one,
which is on building seven, where they had
the guy on mic on one of the
networks saying, pull it.
The BBC.
It was the BBC.
Pull it, and they dropped the building.
First, the BBC is saying, building seven has
collapsed, but it was 20 minutes before it
collapsed.
You see the BBC person with building seven
in the background.
Then they have, now, I don't know where
that tape came from, that one, but I've
heard it too.
Pull it, pull it.
Yeah, were they're going to pull it?
Yeah, I'm a little fuzzy on it too.
It was, after all, 24 years ago.
But yeah, that's what we all should be
moaning about.
Forget the Epstein files.
No.
Sorry.
No, no.
Did you hear that there's a book coming
out about Bill Gates?
Yeah, if I can imagine.
Yeah, the book, let me see, what is
it?
I think The Economist reported on this today.
And that they had to hide the young
interns from Bill Gates.
Well, that's not news to the No Agenda
Show listeners.
But in Redmond, are they talking about his
normal, Bill's normal activities?
They used to be, I'll give you a
story.
Let me read the headline first so we
can set this up.
There's a new book coming out called Billionaire
Nerd Savior King, Bill Gates and His Quest
to Shape Our World.
And so the big headline is Bill Gates'
infidelity, in quotes, saw Microsoft management keep young
interns away from the tech mogul.
The guy who was just doing business, just
trying to get a deal done with the
Jeffrey Epstein.
Nothing more, just some business.
So here comes John's story, everybody.
Well, so before Bill was married to Melinda,
who's now having issues with her psychology.
I don't know what, I sent you a
link.
Oh, I didn't get that.
He used to go out.
He used to take and bed as many
of the cuties as he could at the
company.
And of course, the word was he liked
small, petite blondes was his real goal.
And because it would cause a stir in
the executive suites, they would give these, because
the girls would be mad because they never
see Bill again.
And he was not a, you know...
He was not a good follow-up guy
is what you're saying?
Not a follow-up guy.
And so they start to make a fuss
and they'd ship the girls to Australia.
Microsoft Australia and with a lucrative job.
Good day, mate.
And they say, would you like...
And to the point, now this is of
all Microsoft folklore, and I'm pretty sure it's
true, because I heard it from more than
one person.
Some of the new girls would come in
and this word got around.
And so they start to wear t-shirts
and said, hey, Bill, pick me because they
wanted to go to Australia.
Now, I'd like to have one of these.
There's got to be some woman out there
who actually was shipped to Australia.
Well, what we want is one of those
t-shirts.
That's another collectible I don't have.
That's the collectible.
Tell me we aren't the best podcast in
the universe.
Where else will you get a boots on
the ground story like that?
That one, by the way, I've heard Bill
Gates stories from you, but I do not
remember the hey, Bill, pick me t-shirts.
Yeah, hey, Bill, pick me.
I went on a trip to Australia.
The older you get, the more good stories
come out.
I'm kind of digging this.
I got a million of them.
They get old.
You know, the stories, oh, I woke up
today.
Well, first of all, you woke up.
It's a good day, everybody.
Believe me, it's a huge plus.
It's a good day.
OK, so I got a tune in my
head, you know, you get a tune worm,
you know, a little earworm, a diddy.
You got a little where this came from
is beyond me.
But when I still until about I took
about two or three hours to get rid
of it.
It was hearing Frankie Valley singing Two Faces
Have I.
What song?
The Four Seasons song.
I don't know the faces.
Have I want to laugh and want to
cry?
And I haven't heard that song for 30
years.
And I'm now I'm hearing everything.
And once you get the hang of listening
or hearing that song in your head, you
get to all the lyrics.
And, you know, pretty soon I had the
whole song down.
Wow.
In falsetto.
But what's interesting is that I know a
lot of Frankie Valley songs.
I can't remember.
I know Lou Christie.
Sure it's not Lou Christie.
Two Faces Have I want to laugh and
want to cry.
Oh, well, let's do do it quick.
Well, well, here's a here's a.
I don't want the world to know.
That sounds like Frankie Valley, but that's actually
Lou Christie.
I don't want my heart to show.
Oh, Two Faces Have I.
Well, we need a remake.
That's the song.
And I because of the voice, I have
to say.
I'll give you a pass.
Yeah, you would say you would think Frankie
Valley for sure.
Yeah, that's what I was hearing.
I was hearing the song.
I didn't you know, I didn't have by
Frankie Valley.
But that's what I didn't realize that Lou
Christie saying that, because that's that's a Frankie
Valley song if ever there was.
Now, did you take a gummy last night
before you went to bed?
No, I did not.
I haven't had a gummy for years.
Oh, how we miss those days.
John and his gummies.
That's a great song, by the way.
Lou Christie.
I pretend that I'm happy.
I like the Alvin and the Chipmunks in
the background.
That's great.
That was the era of the falsetto.
Yes, later brought back by the Bee Gees
in my day.
Yeah, but that that was the end of
it.
Oh, yeah, it had to end.
It had to end.
Well, it's a hard thing to do.
It's hard to sing with that voice.
Oh, well, as far as I'm concerned, we're
done.
This is a great show.
I think we've we've nailed it.
We nailed it.
What more do you need to talk about?
Since we're talking about drugs.
Oh, yes.
I have a couple of ketamine clips that
I thought were fascinating.
OK, I didn't know ketamine was still in
the news, but maybe this is related to
Elon.
Is that what?
Well, Elon comes to mind, obviously, and others.
Yes, Kevin Rose.
We know personally.
Yeah, Kevin Rose.
He's not bashful about it.
We can say it.
He does a whole show about it.
It's always it's always.
Disturbing to me when somebody is bragging about
a drug.
Yeah.
But this is an interesting they're doing, they
did a bunch of studies on on giving
unknowingly giving.
Like, well, I guess they signed off on
something.
But people had a traumatic operation that was
of some sort.
They would give them ketamine besides the the
anesthetic.
And they would.
It's a pharmaceutical.
I mean, it's it's.
Yeah, that's what it's used for.
Yes.
What's for?
And so they come out of it and
then they get they they had these psychologists
that would ask them about what they're how
they feel now and how they then they
talk about the ketamine.
You got some ketamine.
How do you feel better?
And they went on and on about it.
And and I think it revealed a couple
of interesting facts.
So in the group that did get ketamine,
60 percent of those patients felt better the
day after surgery.
And most of those people had stayed better
when the researchers checked on them two weeks
later.
Wow.
So for context, you know, this is much
faster than something like Prozac or Zoloft, which
could take at least a month to see
results and has to be taken every single
day.
Right.
So Boris, as they figured out, what is
it?
What is it?
Right.
Oh, wow.
Is this new at NPR?
NPR thing where you get that these these
wannabe podcasters that are on the air and
they're chatting it out.
Yeah.
It sounds like Notebook LM.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Deep dive.
Mm hmm.
Uh huh.
Yeah.
And it has to be taken every single
day.
Mm hmm.
Right.
So Boris, as they figured, OK, ketamine works
even under anesthesia.
So even if the patient doesn't know that
they actually got it.
So so it wasn't just Cindy who felt
better.
Boris told me about a different patient, not
Cindy.
He also talked to.
This was like her, you know, and like
fifth, like cancer surgery, like this has been
a recurrent cancer.
He saw this patient a couple of days
after her surgery.
She was almost like dancing.
This is, you know, someone who had like
a lot of stuff in their belly, like
still had drains, bandages.
She was like, you know, it was infectious.
I thought to myself at the time, like
if she didn't get ketamine, like I'm quitting.
Like, I don't know.
Like or or even I mean, in retrospect,
it was more like I want to know
what's like what we did.
So I got to the placebo group after
I made that decision, like this guy is
on ketamine.
I can tell he's like.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
Oh, like or or eve, I mean, in
retrospect, it was more like I want to
know what's like what we did, so we
could do it again.
And she was at the placebo group.
That's good.
So statistically, there was no difference between people
who got ketamine and people who got placebo.
Forrest told me the people who got placebo.
They got so much better.
They were indistinguishable from the patients who got
ketamine.
And even Cindy, who did get ketamine and
did feel like it helped her depression symptoms,
told me she thought about whether it was
really the drug that helped her or other
parts of the study.
Wow.
Like what was it that really made her
feel better?
Wow.
Well, they finally do a placebo study and
what are they doing on ketamine?
I have a couple other drugs I'd like
you to try that on.
Let's listen to the second part of this.
So you're saying that even though she got
ketamine, her feeling better could also have been
like related to these other parts of the
experience, like working closely with Forrest and like
feeling like people are actually like listening to
her.
Exactly.
And she told me that she wondered like
how far would it take other people who
were struggling with something like depression if they
just had the same kind of support that
she got from Boris and her surgery team?
Who doesn't respond to love and kindness, right?
Boris told me that a lot of patients
seem to think that if they felt better,
they probably got ketamine even if they didn't,
which to him points to this expectation or
hope that patients might have about being in
a study where they might get some kind
of drug at all.
You know, there's a lot of the same
reactions like, well, I you know, I can't
explain it either.
But this it's important.
It's you know, I got I got better.
In some cases, they stayed better.
But that could have just been the placebo
effect.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what Boris is saying.
And what he really emphasized to me is
that placebo can sort of be seen as
this fake thing or a sign of failure
in a study.
But there's science supporting its effectiveness.
It can actually change our brain chemistry, but
people often see it as this imaginary treatment.
Imaginary is like something that doesn't exist.
This is a real thing.
And placebo has real biology behind it.
And it is one of the most valuable
treatments we have in medicine.
Full stop.
Wow.
It's like that expectation.
Well, there you go.
That's an interesting twist to the story.
That's what I thought.
Huh.
So I guess.
Well, you know, NPR is not I don't
think they're in on the springtime big pharma
buy.
There may be true.
Everybody else was.
The point.
Yes.
And but the point of that whole discussion
and it went on, there was just a
piece of a longer piece.
And it was that it may be the
placebo plus the attention.
Yeah.
Is all it really took to get people
back on track.
And Ketamine doesn't do jack except for the
dissociative stuff that it does do to people
that does have a psychedelic effect.
So maybe but maybe a lot of these
like Zoloft and Xanax and by the way,
I've tried a Xanax and like nothing for
me.
And I used to be a professional drug
user.
I mean, this is nothing.
It takes like they say, it takes a
long time before it catches up to you
know that you're supposed to take a Xanax
and I feel so loose.
Maybe a lot of these drugs are just
so you can say, oh, I've got to
take my meds.
Oh, I just took my meds.
It could be.
It's very possible.
This study sounds like it makes it sound
like that.
It's like the placebo effect and it might
as well give you nothing.
So we had the big the big pharma
buy the springtime buy and and the buy
was not specifically for any medication, but it
was to basically say autism is not caused
by vaccines.
Everybody had the story.
We begin here tonight with a mystery, a
mystery of autism, the developmental condition that can
affect the ability to communicate and interact socially.
We're beginning with it because the CDC is
reporting a sharp rise in the number of
children who have it.
More than three percent of eight year olds.
And because today the secretary of Health and
Human Services, Robert F.
Kennedy Jr., called the rate of autism alarming
and ordered up studies to determine the cause
by September, something scientists have been working on
for decades.
There are clues, but no conclusions.
We're joined now by CBS News medical contributor
Dr. Celine Gowder.
So today, Secretary Kennedy announced that we were
going to be as a country investing more
money through the NIH to research the causes
of autism.
He has previously stated that by September we
would have some definitive answers.
It is extremely unlikely we're going to be
getting there.
And we'll talk about that more after the
story.
But I think it was very interesting that
he did not mention vaccines at the press
conference today, which was, of course, what everybody
kept saying last week.
He says it's because of vaccines is because
I don't think he's actually said that.
He's spoken of mercury and that would come
into adjuvants, which I don't think is being
used much anymore.
But they all were so convinced.
Oh, he says it's because of vaccines.
And then he didn't say it.
What?
The ASD prevalence rate in eight year olds
is now one in thirty one.
Shocking.
Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy, Jr., pointed to new evidence that the
U.S. is seeing, in his words, a
growing epidemic of autism.
The epidemic is in his words.
Notice that it's not from the CDC.
Oh, no, is in his words.
It's a growing epidemic of autism.
The epidemic is real.
CDC data shows one out of thirty one
children has been identified with autism.
The previous report two years earlier found a
rate of one in thirty six.
If the epidemic is an artifact, oh, stop,
stop.
I got this clip to visit.
What's interesting is they they they drop it
from one to thirty six to one thirty
one and they refuse to mention the one
in one hundred thousand number.
Oh, from from 1990, 1970 or whatever it
was.
Yeah, it was like maybe 1990, actually, maybe
that recent.
But the number starts off at one in
one hundred thousand.
And then it went to one in five
hundred or something.
I think they actually have those, but not
from the one in one.
But they're not all these reports.
Leave that out.
Yeah.
Well, hello.
They push.
They push the following.
They push.
Well, it was one in thirty six.
Now it's one thirty one.
So it's just minor.
And you went from here to there.
Yeah, that's they leave out the big giant
numbers.
That's the trick.
Or found a rate of one in thirty
six.
If the epidemic is an artifact, a better
diagnostic criteria or better recognition, then why are
we not saying seeing it in older people?
Why is this only happening in young people?
The American Academy of Pediatrics has disputed Kennedy's
characterization.
Attributing rising rates to the fact that more
children have access to evaluations.
And I think there is more awareness.
But clearly there's something.
Stop.
So that was a contradiction of what they
just reported.
Kennedy's made the point, which they don't emphasize,
which is that if it's true that it's
just a difference in diagnosis, then how can
we don't see it in the misdiagnosed adults
that are living and floating around today to
the extent that we're seeing it in kids?
Because they're all high on placebo effect.
That's why they're all left out of it.
And so then they see immediately this woman
doing this report.
She immediately drops.
Is this the doctor?
Yeah, Celine Gounder.
Yeah.
She she drops that little tidbit and skips
it.
Yeah.
And then goes on with it, with taking
it further into the wrong direction.
Yeah.
So.
So Chloe, how do you have that?
I would say that, you know, I am
in a position to've just been told that
she has a misdirection effect.
but today I was told that her diagnosis
was a misdirection effect.
and I know that she is a misdirection
expert.
are true kids with autism spectrum disorders.
And you wouldn't have missed them.
Kennedy has for years promoted a link between
vaccines and autism.
That theory has been debunked.
Notice how they always say debunked instead of
saying scientifically proven, even saying there is no
evidence.
They always, with this particular one, they always
say debunked.
What is the actual translation?
What is the meaning of debunked?
That's not the only issue that they use
the word debunked to an extreme for.
There was another one that just came up
recently, they said it was debunked.
Well, so it means, to debunk means to
expose the falseness or sham of something.
So it's more than just not true, it's
a sham.
Yeah, like a hoax.
Yes, yes.
Which is, it's questionable that they use that
term every single time.
I agree, now that you mention it.
I didn't think about it, but now that
you mention it, I think you're right.
You're right.
Whoa, everybody, write it down.
Write it down.
That is what we call the gazebo effect.
Kennedy has for years promoted a link between
vaccines and autism.
That theory has been debunked.
The secretary announced plans.
I like that.
Do a little nat pop.
That has been debunked.
Oh, that was interesting.
Clap, clap, clap, clap, yes, good.
This is good.
You wouldn't have picked that up on the
television, it would have been subconscious.
I didn't even hear it the first time
I listened to this.
Kennedy has for years promoted a link between
vaccines and autism.
That theory has been debunked.
The secretary announced.
Isn't that great?
That's unbelievable, this woman is the worst.
Vaccines and autism, that theory has been debunked.
The secretary announced plans for new studies to
identify environmental causes for the rise in autism
rates, such as mold, ultrasounds, obesity, and diabetes.
In his comments today, he did not mention
vaccines as a possible cause.
Oh no, we have nothing to moan about,
let's keep going.
Dr. Gander, can you get an answer by
the fall to these kinds of complex questions?
No, of course not.
This is a very complicated question, what causes
autism?
It's multifactorial, there's genetics, there's environmental causes.
Multifactorial, yes.
They don't know what causes it, I think
that's the premise of this whole presentation.
But now all of a sudden it's multifactorial?
Yes, it's multifactorial.
If you don't know what causes it, how
can you make that claim?
Well, she's Dr. Selene Grounder.
Multifactorial, why are you questioning it?
Are you on the television?
No.
There's genetics, there's environmental causes, there's other causes
probably too.
To tease that out, the number of people
you need to study over time, I mean
if you take for instance the example of
smoking and lung cancer, that's actually a pretty
straight correlation and that took years, decades to
prove that.
So to sort this out for autism, not
by September.
Hold on.
Excellent point, because big pharma, big tobacco was
buying everybody off, that's why it took, great
comparison.
Excellent comparison.
Exactly, that's a perfect comparison.
Actually, inadvertently she made a perfect comparison.
They've been bought off.
These people, they overplay their hand.
When it comes to potential causes that'll actually
be studied, does that include vaccines in any
way, shape or form?
Well, it's interesting, he did not mention vaccines
again during today's press conference.
But he also said that he does not
want researchers to feel constrained in terms of
what questions they can be asking.
The specific things he mentioned included ultrasounds, obesity,
older age of parents, exposure to air pollution
and plastics.
So there are a lot of different things
that could potentially be studied through this research.
That was CBS and I have a much
shorter, just one clip from ABC and one
from NBC.
Because remember, this was the springtime buy.
Authorities at the CDC are trying to explain
what.
Authorities, just listen to what they're saying.
Authorities, oh, who am I to question authority?
Authorities at the CDC are trying to explain
what's behind new numbers tonight, showing that one
out of every 31 children in America was
diagnosed with some measure of autism in 2022.
The latest figure is available.
You are right.
By the way, John, you are right.
This was the buy.
The buy was, we're going to make it
look like a little increase from one in
36 to one in 31.
That's our report, that's the news, that's the
story.
So yes, there has been an increase, but
it's only, you know, one in five.
You nailed it.
That's what the springtime buy.
I nailed it.
That's what the springtime buy was about.
Those numbers were one in every 36 children
just two years earlier, and one out of
every 150 children in the year 2000.
And the report shows that autism was much
more common in boys than girls.
U.S. Health Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy, who for years as a civilian, helped
blame autism on the use of vaccines, is
underlining the new numbers tonight.
Wait, stop.
What did he say?
He helped blame?
I think that's what he said.
What was the phrase he used before blame?
The word before he used the word blame.
What was that?
Let's listen.
And the report shows that autism was much
more common in boys than girls.
U.S. Health Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy, who for years as a civilian, helped
blame autism on the use of vaccines.
Helped.
Helped blame.
Helped blame?
Yes, helped blame.
He helped blame.
What structure is that?
Oh, that's ABC News, baby.
I helped blame.
That's the house of Peter Jennings.
Why do you question these things?
Civilian helped blame autism on the use of
vaccines is underlining the new numbers tonight.
His take on this has been rejected by
the world medical community.
Oh, the world medical community.
Can I become a member of this community?
The world medical community.
It's not like the World Health Organization.
The world, oh, the world, oh, wait, hold
on a second, everybody.
The world health community.
Rejected by the world medical community.
Oh, medical, sorry.
In my generation today, the rate of autism
is one in 10,000.
And this is just one disease.
Other health officials this evening are explaining that
the larger numbers are because parents and doctors
are now much more aware of the disease
and are now correctly identifying more symptoms.
Not a reason, they say, to buy into
unproven theories that discourage Americans from using vaccines.
So now we have better diagnosis.
Now notice here they say unproven theories.
They're not saying disproven, scientifically proven not to
be so, or even debunked.
They just say unproven theories.
You have not proved your theory, so go
home.
Americans from using vaccines.
So now we have better diagnosis, broader recognition
of autism spectrum.
So many children with less severe learning and
behavior differences are being included in these new
rates.
Autism is not new and it is not
caused by vaccines.
There you go, the bias completes and send
out the bill.
They don't know what causes it, but it's
not caused by vaccines.
No, it's not.
Whatever it is.
If they don't know what's causing it.
How do they know what's not causing it?
How do they know exactly?
They don't know what's causing it, so they
can't say it's not caused by vaccines as
a flat statement.
You question.
You're right.
Again, you're right.
This is a drug buy of all the
networks and they had this talking points had
to be included and they all gave a
report.
I bet you if you timed out the
reports, they're all advertising length.
About 60 minutes, 60 seconds, yeah.
With a pre and post roll.
Here's the NBC version.
It is a little bit longer.
Maybe they got a double buy.
The CDC says one in 31 eight-year
-olds were identified with autism spectrum disorder in
2022, up from one in 36 two years
earlier.
All right, we got that one.
Check that one off the list.
Boys were- He essentially stopped it.
And they're all doing this as the same
exact points they're trying to make each time.
Why don't they have any numbers from 19,
2023 or even 2024 for that matter, but
that means it's already six months into 2025.
Why is it the numbers go back to
2022 and there's nothing from 2023?
I'd like to know.
Did they explain that?
Of course not.
No, please.
Up from one in 36 two years earlier.
Boys were more than three times as likely
as girls to be identified with autism, minority
children more than whites.
Almost 40% of the kids also have
an intellectual disability.
Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. today, calling autism an epidemic.
This whole generation of kids is damaged by
chronic disease.
Dr. Alex Colvison of New York's Sever Autism
Center disagrees with Kennedy's diagnosis.
Is this report an accurate representation of how
prevalent autism is in the US?
No, I don't think it is.
I don't think we have an epidemic of
autism.
I think that there are a number of
factors that are driving the increase in prevalence.
Such as?
Such as broadening diagnostic criteria, perhaps younger age
of diagnosis, and getting the diagnosis as a
means of getting services, which are important for
kids.
Okay, you can get your drink coupons and
your check at the end of the day.
Thank you very much for appearing on our
show.
And he vehemently disagrees with Kennedy's past attempts
to link autism to vaccines.
The one thing we know with certainty is
that vaccines do not cause autism.
How do we know this from certainty?
You don't know what causes it, but you
know what doesn't cause it.
This makes zero sense.
You know, we have an epidemic of propaganda.
That's what we have, ladies and gentlemen.
It's an epidemic of bull crap.
Vaccines.
The one thing we know with certainty is
that vaccines do not cause autism.
This has been studied extensively across multiple continents,
and it's been well-established in the scientific
community.
No, it hasn't.
Science shows genetics is a political game.
I mean, Lamb blogs about raising two children
with autism while being on the spectrum herself.
Oh, it's not just a statistic.
What example they found.
Yeah, I gave it to my kid.
That's what they say.
Oh, you horrible mother.
Autism while being on the spectrum herself.
Well, it's not just a statistic to us.
It's more like a call to action.
As parents and science try to unlock the
mysteries of the mind.
Ah, the mysteries of the mind.
Wow.
Yeah.
And of course, the real problem here is
that- By the way, just to interrupt.
They, what we just witnessed with these clips,
this is where it's headed because they're going
to pull the plug.
It looks like it's going to happen within
the next six months.
Pull the plug on advertising by pharma companies
and to keep their hooks into the big
media companies instead of doing advertising, they're going
to be doing this more and more and
more.
Oh, interesting.
Don't you think?
Now- Gotta do something.
You've heard for certain that they're going to
pull the plug?
Yeah.
Hmm.
It's been dropped as a, feelers have been
dropped into here and there.
It's going to, they're going to pull the
plug.
Prognosticated.
Now, the big problem is that they expanded
the definition of autism to ASD, Autism Spectrum
Disorder.
I'm on the spectrum.
I had Tourette's, I'm on the spectrum.
Yes, and you yourself believe it was from
a shot.
Yes, totally.
Happened at seven years old.
Hmm, what happened at seven?
I think I got some more shots when
I went to Europe.
Yes.
So that just confuses everything because you have
severe autism, what you and I would recognize.
You also got kids walking around on their
tippy toes and twirling.
That's autism.
Okay.
Kids on the tippy toes twirling.
That's what some kids do, the stupid stuff.
So all of that is on the spectrum.
You know, and some kids are geniuses.
And oh, he's too interested in Lego blocks.
He's on the spectrum.
Yeah, and by the way, some interesting, a
lot of these kids are interesting.
Now you do have severe autism for sure.
And real retardation of mental capacity.
And we have family members where that happens.
Shot, kid got, you know, still living at
home, 30 years old.
Yeah, that's horrific.
Anyway, you and I are not gonna solve
it, my friend.
Nope, but we can sure ridicule these reports.
Yeah, that's easy to do.
Well, it's easy to do, but nobody does
it.
No.
If you haven't noticed.
Yeah.
No, people are too busy trying to debunk
Macron's married to a dude.
That's what everyone's.
Let's talk about it.
Blake Lively, let's talk about Blake Lively.
Blake Lively.
Yeah.
Okay.
I have a clip that, getting to our
guy, our buddy in poster, Salvador, I don't
know where he is.
Oh yeah, he's in the.
And by the way, that guy.
He's got a shaven head.
What is his name, Garcia?
I can't remember.
Elion, Elion Gonzalez.
Elion Gonzalez.
First of all, I thought first he was
a gay hairdresser, then he was a gay
makeup guy.
Now he's a father, a Maryland father with
three kids.
What happened to the gay part?
That person disappeared.
Yeah, that was the messaging that they were
throwing at us and then trying to maybe
get gay sympathy or something.
I'm not sure what the methodology was.
They even got Rogan on that one.
Rogan was like, oh, they deported a gay
hairdresser.
They got to pull that back.
Let me see, deport.
Maybe, was that a completely different story?
I don't know.
Maybe it was, but whatever the case is,
I thought this guy was the gay hairdresser.
Well, he is now.
Well, he's probably.
Gay Venezuelan stylist sent to Salvadorian prison after
disgraced cop's report.
This is from Milwaukee.
Well, that guy, nothing ever happened.
That story, that's the story, but for some
reason they dropped that story.
Because these stories are all bogus.
Yeah, because that was Milwaukee and this is
the Maryland man.
Okay, so let's see what you got.
So I got some, this is a different
kind of a take on things.
This is the old brother banishment tale.
What, the old brother banishment?
Old brother, O brother.
O brother, yeah.
Banishment.
Okay, is this something I should understand?
Is this code?
There's no set up.
It's just, it sets itself up.
Their names were Lawrence and Cassandra Southwick.
Ford discovered the connection with his ancestors when
he started digging into his genealogy as a
hobby a few years ago.
The Southwick's story was interesting because they were
Quakers living under a very Puritan government.
So they were banished from the community.
It was from being Quakers, yeah.
The court levied it as a formal punishment,
maybe under blasphemy or heresy laws.
I don't know the exact statute they would
have cited, but that was the general purpose
of it.
They fled to Shelter Island in New York.
According to their memorial, according to some of
the records that survived, they died of exposure
and maltreatment shortly thereafter.
They were already elderly when it happened, so
it was probably quite an ordeal for them
to be removed from their community and sent
elsewhere.
It was a sentence of banishment that became
a de facto death sentence, it sounds like.
More or less, yeah.
I think that, you know, for people who
are banished from their community, it amounts to
a sort of civil death, which is why
you usually see legal commentators refer to it
as sort of one step below the death
penalty.
Well, this was unexpected story.
Yeah, and what do you think, how do
you think they, this is like, well, let's
think of a new angle to shoehorn our
buddy into.
In El Salvadorian, too.
It's been shipped to El Salvador.
How do we do that?
I've got an idea.
Part two.
Matt Ford is a staff writer at the
New Republic, and he has been thinking about
the Southerks because banishment is suddenly back on
the table.
President Trump, how many illegal criminals are you
planning on exporting to El Salvador?
And President Bukele, how many are you willing
to take from the US?
As many as possible.
President Trump has already sent plane loads of
immigrants to a maximum security prison in El
Salvador for indefinite detention.
Is this creative or what?
Wow, so we have a completely unrelated story
about someone being banished from the community.
Yeah, in the 1600s.
As a Quaker.
So immediately, you do the association that Trump
is so back ass-ward that he's doing
stuff that took place in the 1600s, and
he's trying to bring it back.
This is how far down, this is your
Europeans must really would beat this up.
Oh yeah, this is some MKUltra stuff.
Did they flash, oh, it's radio, but they
might as well just flash a monarch butterfly
at you.
Okay, here comes some programming.
Or indefinite detention.
The legality of that move is being fought
out in courts, but at an Oval Office
meeting with the Salvadoran president this week, Trump
was looking ahead.
I'd like to go a step further.
I mean, I said it to Pam.
I don't know what the laws are.
We always have to obey the laws, but
we also have homegrown criminals that push people
into subways that hit elderly ladies on the
back of the head with a baseball bat.
We're number one.
When they're not looking at our absolute monsters,
I'd like to include them in the group
of people to get them out of the
country.
In other words, exiling US citizens for committing
a crime, which brings us back around to
Matt Ford's 11th great-grandparents.
In the grand scope of American history, these
practices are not unheard of, but they are
also now pretty far disregarded.
Oh, nice script reading.
Pretty far disregarded.
Wow.
That's good stuff.
So this is like the- It's creative.
Very creative twist.
Yeah.
That is just like an eye roller.
This was a very long presentation.
I only have four clips, but we'll go
into part three.
Various legal experts, you found no one who
could see any basis for this.
By the way, she's starting to sound like
Scott.
Listen to her, start it over.
Tell me I'm wrong.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
Various legal experts, you found no one who
could see any basis for this in the
Constitution?
Yeah, let me see.
Separate circuit test.
Scott.
Simon.
Various legal experts, you found no one who
could see any basis for this in the
Constitution?
Yes, I don't even wanna talk like Scott.
It's just fantastic.
Well, it's tough because on one hand, the
courts have never really ruled on it.
That's what makes it so striking.
Because nobody's tried it.
Nobody's done it.
And so, I can't find a Supreme Court
opinion.
I can't point one to you and cite
you one where the justices 50 or 100
years ago said, banishment is unconstitutional, exile is
unconstitutional.
But when you look at the grand scope
of how the courts think about deportation, extradition,
citizenship, it's pretty clear that it would be
a disfavored practice.
And we know that also from American history.
What history book did he read?
They're also talking about the Constitution.
You know, I think a lot of people
don't understand the Constitution is a list of
things you can't do.
As the government.
It's really a- The Bill of Rights,
certainly.
It's like, not stuff the government can't do
and then everything else, you can make laws,
you can do your own thing.
You could do banishment.
I don't see any issue.
Because it's not, you can't, there's nothing in
the Constitution that forbids it.
Because the Constitution is about forbidding things.
And so, there's nothing that forbids it.
You should be able to do this.
And in fact, they don't talk about it
too much, but people have been kicked out
of the country largely like Snowden.
They took his passport away while he was
in Russia and he can't come back.
Good point.
What's the difference between that and banishment?
Well, Snowden left himself.
He left on his own accord and they
wouldn't let him come back in.
Now, I guess that is banishment.
But it didn't kick him out.
He just, he's not allowed back in.
Yeah, but, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, tomato, tomato.
I gotcha.
Okay, let's wrap it up.
This is when President Trump is asked explicitly
if he's talking about U.S. citizens.
Yeah, yeah, that includes them.
Why do you think there's special category of
person?
They're as bad as anybody that comes in.
We have bad ones too.
Matt Ford, are U.S. citizens a special
category of person under U.S. law?
Constitutionally speaking, in many ways, they are.
I mean, American citizens are the only ones
who can vote.
They're the only ones who can serve on
juries and they have a automatic right to
live in this country.
The general practice is they can't be denied
re-entry if they leave, which is sort
of a constitutional barrier in and of itself
to the idea that they would be exiled
to a distant land.
Yeah.
Yeah, like Russia.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they're kind of trying to go at
this angle.
This is not gonna go anywhere, but I
thought it was interesting and somewhat entertaining.
Yes, oh, there's the Zephyr.
It's not really the Zephyr, but I heard
something go by.
It's one of the many trains coming in
from China.
They're trying to move as much goods into
the country as they can.
Yes, as quickly as possible.
As quickly as possible, yes.
They're loading up.
Oh, well, let's talk about some tariffs.
Got some tariff news.
Let me see, where's my tariffs?
Ah!
Ha, ha, ha.
I was kind of right.
It was a huge relief to U.S.
tech firms, but it may be short-lived.
On Friday, the U.S. Customs Service announced
that around 20 electronic products, including phones and
computers, would be exempt from reciprocal tariffs.
But by Sunday, the U.S. president had
downplayed the move.
Donald Trump said that those products will be
targeted under upcoming sector-specific tariffs, goods seen
as critical to U.S. national defense networks.
I'm telling you that Jamoche, our Commerce Secretary,
he said something that clearly was not true.
It was not true that they were exempted.
And so now they're kind of weaseling around.
Oh, no, don't you worry, because something's coming
back on that.
I think he jumped the gun on that
one.
Nobody is getting off the hook for the
unfair trade balances.
There was no tariff exception announced on Friday.
These products are subject to the existing 20
% fentanyl tariffs, and they are just moving
to a different tariff bucket.
Trump said semiconductors and the entire electronic supply
chain are under review in a new national
investigation.
He promised to release details on Monday.
Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, for his part, said
semiconductor tariffs could be in place within a
month or two.
Our medicines and our semiconductors need to be
built in America.
Donald Trump is on it.
He's calling that out.
So you should understand, these are included in
the semiconductor tariffs that are coming.
Howard, go out there and fix that.
Oh, okay.
Yes, sir.
Yes, boss.
China reacted to the US move on Friday
by describing it as merely a small step
toward correcting what it called a wrong practice
and urged Washington to cancel the tariffs entirely.
I love...
Hey.
Yeah.
What?
You give me grief about my clips from
NTD and you play this guy?
That's...
These guys are from France 24.
I don't know where they're getting them from.
This is like D-listers.
You know what's really bad?
And I tried to pull some clips, but
it just didn't work.
So I guess there was some science award
show last night and Seth Rogen was the
co-host with...
What's the guy's name?
Norman.
Seth Rogen, the comic?
Yes.
And it's like, it's the Oscars of science
and it's funded by, you know, Peter Thiel,
Mark Zuckerberg, et cetera.
And it's only online.
Everyone's in tuxedos.
Ooh, yeah, so great.
And then Seth Rogen, this is what I
was looking for.
I was looking for a clip.
Seth Rogen said, well, isn't it amazing that,
you know, all these people funded it and
then yet you got one guy who takes
$300 million, buys a president, you know, obviously
slamming Elon Musk.
So they cut that out.
It's no longer available.
But then I just went looking for, because
surely somebody recorded this and has a clip.
And all I got were AI generated videos.
There must've been a hundred of them and
they sound kind of okay, but then they'd
all go, Seth Rogen.
Like, okay, well, all right, you're AI, Seth
Rogen.
And it's like, YouTube is just filled with
AI news clips.
It's horrible.
It's become useless.
So I'd rather have this guy than the
Seth Rogen AI.
No, I think the guy's fine, you know,
because I have the NTD guys who sound
funny.
Yeah.
But it just seems to me you got
a big network like F24.
You could do something.
Yeah, you could do something.
Pay somebody some money that can actually speak
English.
So then we have the latest retaliation from
China for what it's worth.
Donald Trump's trade war has hit the aerospace
sector worse than previously thought.
China has now reportedly ordered its airlines to
pause orders from US planemaker Boeing, along with
parts made by American companies.
Its top three airlines, Air China, China Eastern
and China Southern, had planned to take delivery
of a total 179 Boeing jets over the
next two to three years.
Uncertainty over tariffs has left manufacturers and airlines
alike asking just who'll pay the cost and
scouring contracts to see just how exposed they
might be.
Even if Washington's reciprocal tariffs are currently on
hold, with a baseline 10% in place
for three months, except for China, which has
a full 145% levy in place, the
long build times for aircraft means those figures
could easily change between now and ultimate delivery.
Yeah, no kidding.
With an order from Airbus on the cards,
US airline Delta has stated it won't pay
the cost of tariffs at all, and the
European planemaker is saying it's still assessing the
impact of trade tensions and a possible 20
% duty on its exports.
Some airlines like Ryanair have indicated they could
defer deliveries until next year while waiting for
clarity.
Either way, with a decades-old agreement that
maintained aerospace traders duty-free now in tatters,
the world's airlines and planemakers could now be
on course for a serious standoff.
Yeah, the Dutch newspapers were just filled with
this story that, oh, travel to the US
has jumped down through the basement, no one's
buying, oh, the airlines are in trouble, no
one's buying tickets to go to America.
I don't even know if that's true.
Well, you'll find out on the way back.
If the plane's dead empty, you'll know.
Yeah, well, it was full going over, full
going over.
And so the European Central Bank lowered their
interest rate again.
This is their third cut, I believe, in
a row.
Now 2.25%, which seems quite low compared
to the United States, and President Trump is
not happy about that.
The closing bell on Wall Street today ringing
in new losses, the Dow ending the day
down almost 2%.
The plunge attributed to the Federal Reserve Chairman's
new warnings today about President Trump's sweeping tariff
policy.
Tariffs are highly likely to generate at least
a temporary rise in inflation.
Even before Powell spoke, tech stocks started dipping
after the Trump administration put up new roadblocks
for giant chip maker, Nvidia, to export to
China, the company saying it will lose $5
.5 billion.
Some imports coming into the US from China,
like electric vehicles and syringes, are now facing
a hefty 245% tariff.
The White House says there were tariff talks
today between President Trump and- This is
another thing that they've done.
They were all, so they're adding up the
tariffs from 2017, making it sound like we've
just made it go to 245, but this
includes tariffs from- Also, there's a question
in my mind, what electric cars from China
are coming into the US?
Yeah, all of those, none?
I haven't seen one Chinese, we don't have
one Chinese car in the US that I
know of.
No.
No, but it's- So why did she
say that?
She said, she specifically said cars.
She doesn't like Trump.
White House says there were tariff talks today
between President Trump and representatives from Japan, America's
fourth biggest trading partner.
But a new lawsuit over the Trump tariffs
from the fifth biggest economy in the world,
California.
We're also the largest manufacturing state in the
United States of America, $412 billion output.
And I want to put that in perspective.
Newsom charging that Trump does not have the
authority to unilaterally place tariffs using the International
Economic Emergency Powers Act, requesting a judge void
the tariffs and block them.
Where the hell is Congress?
Where the hell is Speaker Johnson?
Do your job.
And so I, yeah, I'm angry as a
parent.
As a parent.
As a taxpayer.
Newsom says the tariffs are impacting California's trade
with U.S. trading partners around the world.
California is also the nation's biggest importer.
Ah, poor California.
We're the biggest, we're number one biggest.
We're the biggest importer.
And by the way, President Trump, he's a
fix it.
He solved inflation and everything's good.
U.S. President Donald Trump claims he's fixed
inflation.
Despite the recent market turmoil triggered by his
enactment of global tariffs.
We have to solve problems and we already
solved inflation.
You know, if you look at the numbers,
the numbers are incredible, actually.
Stock market's up and we're not letting other
countries take advantage of this country like they
have for the last 40 years.
His remarks follow the release of the latest
monthly consumer price report, which shows a 2
.4% inflation rate for March.
It also comes after the U.S. president
offered an exemption to Apple and other technology
companies prompting global stock rises after another tumultuous
week.
Trump has since announced he might temporarily exempt
the auto industry from tariffs to give car
makers time to adjust their supply chains.
However, many economists remain reluctant to view a
single consumer report as evidence of a broader
trend and continue to fear that Trump's tariffs
will raise prices and harm the economy.
Yeah.
How was Andrew?
I didn't hear the show.
DH Unplugged comes out every Tuesday night.
How was Andrew doing?
He's hanging in there.
It wasn't as bad as I thought it
might be.
Oh, okay.
He probably made money.
He probably got in on that big buy.
That big buying opportunity.
I don't know.
Okay, good.
I'm glad.
He has not contacted me, which means he's
really angry.
No, I don't think he knows.
I think you're right.
He doesn't listen to the show anymore.
He doesn't listen anymore?
Oh, he's too busy watching MSNBC, shaking his
fist.
I don't know how much more you're gonna
have to insult him before you get that
call.
I'm trying, I'm trying real hard.
I want the call.
Andrew, give Adam a call.
He's lonely.
How about this?
This had kind of an extra little double
feature in here which was, it was mentioned,
but I didn't hear anyone make the connection.
This is the purge over at the Defense
Department.
This is the Reuters report on it.
An advisor to U.S. Defense Secretary Pete
Hagseth has been escorted from the Pentagon after
being identified during an investigation into leaks at
the Department of Defense.
Dan Caldwell has been placed on administrative leave
for, quote, an unauthorized disclosure.
That's according to a U.S. official who
says the investigation remains ongoing.
Phil Stewart covers the Pentagon for us.
He has been the first person implicated in
a investigation that was launched on March 21st.
And this investigation authorized the use of polygraphs
against senior Defense Department officials, which obviously signaled
that Hagseth and the Trump administration were quite
concerned about something going on at the Pentagon
related to leaks of classified information.
And now we have Dan Caldwell who has
been escorted out, but we're hearing that he
may not be the last person to be
implicated in this investigation.
Okay, so Dan Caldwell.
All right, we have a name, and let's
learn about Dan Caldwell.
Now, who is Dan Caldwell?
So Dan Caldwell had been one of the
most influential people in the Pentagon that nobody
had ever heard of.
He was first named, kind of came out
into the public view when the Atlantic published
the transcript from a signal chat that involved
planning for the U.S. launch of strikes
against the Houthis in Yemen.
And when the U.S. Defense Secretary, Pete
Hagseth, had to name his point person for
this coordination on this major U.S. offensive,
he named Dan Caldwell.
Now, Dan Caldwell and Pete Hagseth go way
back.
They've known each other for a long time.
He had tremendous influence, and it shows that
this leak investigation is no joke, and that
Hagseth is willing to let key allies go
if it means purging the Pentagon from leakers.
What are the chances that this guy was
on the dreaded signal call, he's being kicked
out for unauthorized disclosure?
Now I'm thinking he might've been the one
that added the journalist.
Well, there's something interesting about this guy.
His Wiki page, for example, has got spook
written all over it.
But not in the spot the spook.
There's two forms that we look at.
One is spot the spook, which is you
can see their background, what schools they went
to, and then they had assignments all over
the world for some unknown reason.
Speaking multiple Eastern languages.
Yeah, exactly.
Russian and Arabic, I mean, come on.
So then there's the other one, which is
that nothing.
Empty, just completely empty.
It's like, what school did he go to?
Have no idea.
When was he born?
I don't know.
Does his parents have the same name as
him?
Hard to say, because there's no mention.
So we have this type of guy.
And so I suspect he might be planted.
For a long time.
He was a long-time confidant.
You put a guy in there and he
just reports back.
Well, if you listen to that entire Kurt,
what's his name, interview with Tucker, man, he
says there are so many people, particularly in
defense, who are so corrupt and making so
much money off of war and things that
we start, crap that we stir up.
And I would love that guy to be
testifying somewhere after the Epstein files come out,
of course.
Yeah, that'll be the day.
I can wait, I can wait.
I have patience.
What about Diddy, at least?
Come on.
Diddy just pleaded not guilty to something else.
They throw Diddy in from time to time.
But that lawyer's kind of falling apart.
The Busby guy, he's got all kinds of
problems going on.
Surprise.
I mean, what's surprising is Diddy's still alive.
That's what's surprising.
Must be a reason.
Well, they're not gonna make, he's gonna, okay,
well, we'll see how long that lasts.
Must be a reason.
So Boasberg, the judge.
Yeah, this is an interesting dude.
I got some analysis on this.
This is Boasberg contempt NPRs that is the
opener.
Now, this is the guy who.
The judge who told, told him to turn
the plane around.
The Trump administration, quote, demonstrated willful disregard for
a court's order and is likely in criminal
contempt.
That is what U.S. District Judge James
Boasberg ruled today here in Washington.
Boasberg has been trying to determine if the
government purposely ignored him last month when he
told it to turn back two airplanes, planes
carrying Venezuelan migrants to a prison in El
Salvador.
NPR's Adrian Florido is here.
Hi, Adrian.
Hi.
Hi, Mary Louise.
What else did Judge Boasberg say in his
ruling?
Well, he said that he found that in
fact, government officials did ignore his order to
turn those planes around.
A little context, Mary Louise, on March 15th,
President Trump announced that he'd invoked the Wartime
Alien Enemies Act of 1798 so he could
quickly deport members of the Venezuelan gang Trinidad
Agua without hearings.
Later that day, officials in Texas loaded dozens
of men into two airplanes.
The ACLU got wind of the government's plans
and sued.
During an emergency hearing, excuse me, in D
.C. that evening, Judge Boasberg asked government lawyers
if the planes had already taken off and
said if they had, they needed to turn
around.
The planes did not turn back though.
They landed in El Salvador and that country's
president locked the men up.
Boasberg, in his ruling today, said the government
could have returned those planes because they took
off during his hearing and they landed after
he'd issued his order.
He wrote that, and I'm quoting here, the
Constitution does not tolerate willful disobedience of judicial
orders.
And he said that he had probable cause
to find the administration in criminal contempt.
Criminal contempt.
So what does that mean when that's applied
to the federal government?
Oh, ask Eric Holder what that means.
It means nothing.
It means completely nothing.
Well, it depends on what the government does
next.
Boasberg gave it until next Wednesday to do
one of two things.
It can show him how it's working to
correct its violation.
And he said that the most obvious way
would be to reassert custody of the men
it deported so they can challenge their deportations
in federal courts.
Now, Rob, the constitutional lawyer, did a deep
dive for me.
Deep dive!
A deep dive, yes.
And he says, this is only about habeas
corpus.
Habeas corpus.
And yes, but you can't sue in a
different state and they should have sued in
Texas.
And so this whole thing was, it's technicality,
really.
It's not like this judge can really turn
stuff around.
The whole thing is, pardon the pun, trumped
up.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're trying to get something going here.
They are still being held in that Salvadoran
prison and many of their families have flatly
denied that they are gang members.
If the government chooses not to do that,
Boasberg said, then- Do they have a
soundbite?
Do they have a crying wife?
Do they have crying children?
Do they have anyone, like a mom, anything?
They tried.
The family?
They just, oh no, the family's saying, oh
no, oh no.
If the government chooses not to do that,
Boasberg said, then he said it needs to
tell him the names of the specific government
officials who ignored his order.
He said he will hold contempt hearings and
if necessary, appoint a lawyer to criminally prosecute
them for contempt and they could face fines
or prison.
So how are both sides responding to this
ruling?
Start with the lawyers who brought this case.
Well, they're from the ACLU and from a
group called Democracy Forward.
This is Democracy Forward's attorney, in this case,
Eskai Perriman.
This ruling, it's clear that we've seen the
government has acted in blatant disregard for the
judiciary, treating court orders as if they are
optional, and that's not how our systems of
checks and balances works.
This really is something that should concern every
single person in the country.
She said that her team will continue working
through the courts to ensure that everyone in
the U.S. gets due process.
On the other side, a White House spokesman
said the government will appeal today's ruling.
He said the president is committed to ensuring
that, quote, criminal illegal migrants are no longer
a threat to Americans.
The Department of Justice also issued a statement
calling Boasberg's ruling a judicial power grab.
You know, not in the news, and I
only have read a report about this, this
Boasberg is under investigation himself for taking drafts
of amicus briefs from organizations like ACLU, and
then redlining them, sending them back, saying, no,
no, no, you change this, change this, then
send it back to me.
And then using those to dismiss cases or,
you know, to do something like this, which
is hold people in contempt.
He's under investigation because Holman has some goods
on him.
He has some whistleblower, but I can't find
any news, any clips about this.
Of course not.
What am I thinking?
Adrian, this is, of course, not the only
case in which federal courts are trying to
force the Trump administration to obey court orders.
Zoom out, give us the bigger picture.
Well, members of the Trump administration are not
going to let courts get in their way
of carrying out the president's priorities.
What is she, a Bitcoiner?
Zoom out, zoom out, zoom out, zoom out.
Tell us what you've learned.
Well, members of the Trump administration have said
they're not going to let courts get in
their way of carrying out the president's priorities.
And today is the first time a judge
has clearly said they will be punished for
not obeying courts.
If they still refuse, that is where legal
experts say that we will have a full
-blown constitutional crisis where the balance of powers
between the executive and judicial branches may not
hold.
Oh, at least we have another constitutional crisis
on our hands.
We have super cuts, so we're good.
We're ready.
Bring it on.
We are ready.
Bring it on.
We need it.
I do actually have some clips about the
wrongly deported man.
Yeah, NPR, how coincidental.
If you don't mind, I shall roll these
out.
Judge Paul Azinis ordered the Trump administration to
provide more information on whether it has done
anything to facilitate the return of a Maryland
man deported to El Salvador by mistake.
NPR's Ximena Bustillo has been following this, and
she's here with me in our studios in
Washington.
Good morning, Ximena.
Good morning, Michelle.
The judge originally ordered for two items.
First, for the government to facilitate Abrego Garcia's
release and return from Secau.
This is the mega prison in El Salvador.
The White House has said that his deportation
was an administrative error.
Second, to ensure that if he is brought
back to the U.S. Stop the clip.
Stopped.
So who said this administrative error quote?
Everyone keeps bringing it up.
I look for it.
I specifically want to look for the-
The administration says it's an administrative error.
Who said this?
The administration.
There is no the administration that has a
voice.
There's a person that must have said it.
But I have- Leave it.
Levitt.
Carolyn Levitt said it.
Levitt said it.
She did?
Yeah, she did.
She said it was administrative error, and she
said, or clerical, I think she actually said
clerical error.
I'd have to look it up.
But what that clerical error is is not
entirely clear.
So he was apparently deported by mistake, but
when they looked at him and went, you
actually deserve to be deported.
That's the claim.
You know what's interesting is if you listen
to all these reports on the one side,
the side we're playing, and then you listen
to like Jesse Waters, who did a really
deep, deep dive on the whole thing.
And this guy's like, this is a bad
person, a bad guy.
The one side of the argument- He
beat his wife.
I heard he beat his wife.
He beat his wife twice.
He beat her up twice, and probably more
than that, but she's reported it twice.
Yeah.
And then he says the wife beat her.
We should deport all wife beaters to El
Salvador.
I'm all for that.
Yeah, it's a banishment.
Yes.
So the, did you see the clip, a
TikTok clip where the guy beats his wife
in a bar, he gives her a couple
of slugs, and every guy in the bar
beats the crap out of the guy?
Well, good.
No, I didn't.
Yeah, that's what I said.
I know, you're doom scrolling on X, because
that's all you get.
If you just scroll on X, you wind
up getting people in cars shooting at cops,
people beating each other, people getting killed in
accidents, in-car camera of a truck driver
getting an accident.
Everything is short videos that are just meant
to stress you out.
Okay, so here, just as an aside.
Not healthy.
So Jay is putting up the tech grouch
on TikTok and on Instagram.
Oh, reruns, reruns?
The reruns for starts, and then we're going
to do some originals.
But- Well, I got to like him.
How's the tech grouch doing?
Is he going viral?
I just showed up yesterday.
And so she gives me her phone, which
has TikTok on it.
She says, pick some of these that you
like.
And so I start doom scrolling.
Uh-oh.
And it's very, holy crap.
And then you see, I've only taken the
TikToks from X that have been repurposed, and
they've been filtered.
And when I go on TikTok, I end
up, since I'm on a VPN half the
time, I'm in Argentina.
So everything's in Spanish.
I don't care.
And even though the same basic TikToks, only
everything's in Spanish.
Same idea.
And they're dancing.
They're doing this stupid dancing.
And, but I got on the phone thing,
because, you know, you mentioned this, the phone
is different.
Yes.
Holy mackerel.
I told you.
And within just a few minutes- You
were hooked.
I had to just give it back to
her.
Within a few minutes, they were starting to,
every third advertiser, there was like TikTok, TikTok,
TikTok.
Shop, shop, shop, shop.
And the advertisements I started getting out of
the blue were for teeth implants.
They already know you.
And I said to Jay, I said, what
am I getting all these teeth implants?
She says, because they know you're older.
Yeah.
They already know you.
And I said, this is your, this is
your phone.
She says, no.
She said, she tells me this.
I mean, she studied it.
I don't know how she got this information.
She says, it's been determined that older, because
she watched me do this.
It's the way you scroll.
The way I scroll.
And the fact that I stay on certain
of the presentations and the ones that include
a lot of AI imaging, according to her,
means you're older.
Because you fall for it.
No, I'm not falling for anything.
It's amusing as hell.
But you like it.
It's very likable to watch some of these
AI presentations because they got a dancing dog.
They got a little baby that's dancing and
he's muscle bound.
He's dancing.
I mean, there's all kinds of funny stuff.
We got an old coot, roll out the
dentures.
And so within five or six of these
things, they figured out, I must be an
old coot.
And so they started rolling out the ads
for teeth implants.
Now, was she not angry that you ruined
her algorithm?
Now she's- No, according to her, it
doesn't, whoever's doing the scrolling, it's in real
time, they'll change it.
So on the plane, so I had to
fly to Atlanta first and I'm sitting next
to this guy and he has a gigantic
iPhone.
I mean, I didn't know they were this
big.
It's huge.
And so I'm just sitting there, I'm in
the aisle, he's in the middle seat.
And he's going through Instagram.
It is amazing to watch.
So it's like, flick, it's thumb thick, flick
up one.
Okay.
Okay, look, look, look.
Oh, press down, heart, send to somebody.
Go back, like it.
Flick, next one.
Okay.
Gay guy.
No, next.
Gay.
Yeah.
And then, oh, oh, I'm gonna send this
to three people.
And then click, flick.
Oh, LOL, flick.
And it's fast.
It's fast.
The thumbs are moving, moving, moving.
And he's just doing stuff.
He's grooving all over the place.
It was fascinating.
Wow.
And of course he had no idea I
was looking at him because he was just,
he was completely.
Well, you can't pay that much attention to
you because he's focused.
And you could just, I mean, maybe I
don't get out enough, but this was an
excellent opportunity just to watch.
You know, he's probably in his 30s, late
30s.
And I was like, wow, you are in
tune with the machine and every, every, you
can see him, this decision-making process.
Like, do I watch it?
No.
And you can even see him watching something.
You see the thumb going closer.
Do I flip this one up?
Oh, wait, I'm gonna wait for a second.
And then he has to make a response.
If he's watched the whole video, it has
to be a heart, a like, a comment,
a share, a lot of sharing going on.
I was like, this is so bad.
That's terrible.
It is.
Well, I mean, I was on the thing
for, I don't know, maybe, I don't know
how many minutes, but it was long enough
for me to give it back to her
and say, you know, I think you got
enough material, of the favorites that I could
do reaction videos to.
And cause, but it's, and there are some,
in fact, there was the one thing I
was kind of fascinated with were these women
who can't cook videos.
Oh yeah.
And there is endless, endless women who can't
cook.
The mom and her son.
Have you seen that one?
No, but I'm sure it's in the mix.
Yeah.
But these, it's like hundreds of women who
can't cook and they have huge followings, according
to Jane, especially the ones who really can't
cook.
And of course we all fall for, they
have big following.
Who knows?
These numbers are phony.
They could be all fake, but I would
follow that.
There's one woman that can't cook that is
so bad.
It's like, holy man, how do you even
come up with these ideas?
You know, you take the tacos and you
put the sauce on it.
A lot of cheese.
You take a can of beans.
A lot of cheese.
You put potato chips on top and then
you hit it with your foot.
And a lot of cheese.
It goes on and on.
And always cheese.
Lots of cheese.
A lot of cheese.
Cheese, a lot of cheese.
Cheese at the end.
We are doomed.
And then you put it in the oven
and it comes out.
Oh, and she's always, she scrapes it out
of there and puts it on a plate.
This is so delicious.
My husband loves it.
And I'm thinking this poor husband is lucky
he doesn't shoot himself.
But yeah.
Tech grouch, save us.
We need saving tech grouch.
Come on in.
It's the exit strategy of all exit strategies.
You will be a sensation.
Sensation.
Since we're speaking about the phone, you know,
I've given up on the hollow book because
you haven't done anything.
But I had a new idea.
I'm still getting people sending stuff in.
No, please.
You're not doing anything.
But I figured maybe if we changed it
to noagendasideboard.com, you know, so you have
a big drawer and then we just send
out this whole sideboard and you put the
phone in the drawer and you can really
be like John.
Anything to get us out of this gig.
Anything, anything.
All right.
Now, years ago, you were on a series
of clips that I rudely interrupted.
I don't think I even want to go
back to them.
It's not even interesting.
Okay, well, I do have an interesting one
before the break.
Okay.
This is NPR is under attack by the
government.
Finally, they're gonna pull the funding.
Yeah, all 5%.
Not even that.
Yeah.
So here is the, I have a series
of four clips that they have the attack
on NPR clip and they brought out Maher,
Maher, the woman, mayor, whatever they call her.
She's the NPR boss now.
She's the NPR boss.
And here we go with the attack on
NPR.
Well, NPR is in the headlines this week.
That is because the Trump administration has drafted
a memo to Congress calling for lawmakers to
end nearly all federal funding to public media.
That includes NPR and PBS and would include
money already appropriated by Congress.
That's according to a White House official who
spoke to NPR.
So we have invited our president and CEO,
Catherine Maher to speak with us live.
Welcome.
Thank you for having me.
I wanna quickly clarify the relationship here for
people listening.
You are my boss.
You hold the top job at NPR, but
you're not a journalist.
You are not involved in newsroom editorial decisions.
That's completely correct.
And your office, you have not seen or
had input into the questions that I am
about to ask you.
That's right.
We've never met before and you are just
a random person from the audience.
Yes.
From the audience and here we go.
That's correct.
I wanna note, we have asked, the newsroom
has asked the White House to comment on
what their goal is here with pulling back
funding.
They have not responded.
They have posted on- Hold on, stop.
The goal is to pull back funding.
And we'd like to take your money away.
Oh, well, what's your goal?
What's the goal?
To take your money away.
Hello?
Comment on what their goal is here with
pulling back funding.
They have not responded.
They have posted on the White House website
a list of NPR and PBS stories that
it says represent biased content and quote, radical
woke propaganda disguised as news.
This includes stories dealing with LGBTQ issues, with
coverage of race, coverage of politics.
Understanding Catherine, that many of the examples on
this list date from before your tenure, does
NPR stand by its journalism?
Absolutely.
Well, why'd you cut that off?
I didn't mean to.
No, you did.
But absolutely is what she said.
Absolutely.
Yes, of course.
She doesn't even know what they're talking about.
Well, she's not a journalist, but she stands
by their reporting.
She trusts them implicitly.
Yeah, good.
Has NPR been formally notified by the White
House about the rescission?
We have not.
How much money is at stake?
In this particular package, it would be all
the funds for fiscal year 26 and 27
for public radio in total.
That is about 250 million for public media
as a whole.
It's a little over a billion dollars, including
public television.
The central question, what would be the effect
on NPR of losing government funding?
Pack your bag, lady.
The biggest effect would be on the NPR
network, which are the 246 stations around the
country that you're probably listening to us on
right now.
Those are our member stations, and they receive
about 100 million of the 121, 22 million
that goes to public radio every single year.
Have these people heard of streaming lately?
I mean, we don't really need the broadcast
stations.
Have you considered?
It gets thicker than this.
Oh, okay.
So the big impact would be on rural
stations, stations in geographies that are quite large
or complex in order to be able to
receive broadcast where infrastructure costs are very high.
You could see some of those stations really
having to cut back services or potentially going
away altogether.
So we're throwing around a lot of big
numbers here, but basically, just to stick with
this point, because I think a lot of
people may not understand, NPR, the network you
and I work for, gets around 1%
of our annual budget directly from the federal
government.
You're making the point that a lot of
our member stations would be hit considerably harder.
So is the 1 billion part of the
1%?
Are they getting a trillion dollars?
No, but she is, like 250 million is
the 1%, which is what?
When you make it, if it's 1%, that's
$20 billion overall.
Am I got my numbers right?
It's a hundred to one?
Well, it's- 20 billion, so you get
250- 250 million, so- Times 10
would be- 2.5, yeah, 25 billion.
Yeah, so their total budget is 25, just
NPR, not the billion, but if it was
a million in there too, we're talking about
a hundred billion.
All public media, it's probably all public media.
All public media was a billion, she said,
from the government, and it's only 1%.
So wait a minute, you're telling me that
they've got $20 billion from, including the 250
from the government, plus underwriters, advertisers, individuals, foundation.
This is much better, this is a better
deal than broadcast media, where you just rely
on advertising.
Mypillow.com, Code Bongino.
Wow, that's, it's very fuzzy.
And they're whining, they've got $20 billion to
play with and they're going to lose a
billion.
Oh no, no, I'm sorry, they're not even
going to, they got 20 billion to 25
billion to play with, they're going to lose
250 million and they're whining because it's going
to hurt the little, where's that other money
going?
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you $25
billion worth of money.
Suffer and succotash.
I'm Scott.
Simon.
He literally has a golden voice, let me
tell you.
So we receive about 1% of our
budget, it goes to support things like body
armor for journalists covering conflict overseas, extra support
for our presidential national elections, all the sorts
of things that we want to invest in
to ensure that we're able to report on
issues that matter to the public.
But generally speaking, most of our operating budget
comes from our membership fees and that's what
allow our members to be able to receive
programming.
It comes from underwriting support, it comes from
private donations, individual audience member donations.
And that same thing is true for member
stations, except federal funding makes up a much
bigger percentage of their total budget.
If all government funding goes away, would we
survive?
Oh!
1%, 1%.
I'm doing a puff.
You're going to lose 1% of all
their funding and then go, whoa, we're going
to survive, we lost 1%.
I'm telling you, does this make any sense
to anybody listening?
No, they're not being true.
I mean, and then it's going towards body
armor for journalists, that's the big expenditure.
Well, we have to cut on the body.
Hey, we're going from 25 billion, we got
to going to 21,750,000,000.
Sorry, no body armor for you.
We need the caviar and we need those
shrimp deals for lunch.
We can't give you body armor.
No, this doesn't make any sense.
I can't believe it's that much money.
I can't believe that 25 billion.
What is the operating budget of CBS or
NBC?
You think that they're spending 25 billion?
Well, this is, by the way, that 25
billion is NPR.
It's not even the television stuff.
I thought it was all of public media.
No, all public media was 1 billion.
From the government.
This doesn't sound right.
This is just, then.
And if that 1 billion is part of
one, if it's 1%, that would mean 100
billion goes into the, these guys are making
money, making bank.
Someone's getting cornhole today.
Sounds like a recipe for success to me.
I think the question is, would we be
able to thrive as a national network?
That is what I am focused on, is
we get so much value as public media
by being part of a 50-state network
that covers 99.7% of the American
population.
If federal funding goes away, that network is
absolutely at risk.
The quality of service, the ability to cover
everyone, people who live in what would otherwise
be news deserts, and as a result, there's
no question that NPR would not be able
to pull from that richness of our national
coverage.
Yes, literally, richness of our national coverage.
Very rich richness of your national coverage.
It's obvious.
NPR would not be able to pull from
that richness of our national coverage if those
local newsrooms- Right, so it's local newsrooms
that would be going away, often in places
where local newspapers have already been designated.
1%!
That's exactly right, together.
Make the case, why should any tax dollars
support public broadcasting when there are plenty of
other news organizations around, when anyone, frankly, these
days, can produce programming on their iPhone?
On your iPhone, really.
On their iPhone.
Yeah, that's- You can produce.
That's what the tax lady said to me
when she went through the Airstream.
Yes, I know, I use that story all
the time, by the way.
Just make your podcast on your iPhone.
By the way, NPR uses the Neumann U67,
which costs $7,895.
That's a microphone.
I'm literally using an unmarketed, never-to-be
-sold Curry One microphone, which costs about-
Soon to be available to everyone.
Oh, absolutely, and I think that it's important
for public media to be able to continue
to be relevant in a time where there
is a lot of coverage of different issues
and areas of interest.
And at the same time, I think it's
very easy to say that there's universal coverage
because there's so much content being produced.
But the reality is there are many places
in this country that do not have that
kind of access to either cell phone service
or high-speed broadband, where radio may be
the only way to reach communities with regular
access to news.
Hey, I'm out here in the sticks.
Hey, honey, you got a radio?
Because I don't know, we can't get television
or nothing.
We can't get no internet.
Please.
You can just do the tech grouts, just
audio, and then we can just put AI,
Scaramonga can put the tech grouch over it.
You don't have to get dressed.
We could pretty much do that by now,
yeah.
Yeah, you should consider that.
Did you see the latest Scaramonga video?
No, I did not.
I'll tell you in a minute.
Or high-speed broadband, where radio may be
the only way to reach communities with regular
access to news.
Public media also supports local news coverage in
places we've already mentioned that about- No,
she mentioned zero places.
She said some places where people live who
have that voice that you have, who have
no- Yeah, you can't get any reception.
Move the rabbit ears, honey.
Yeah.
Public media also supports local news coverage in
places we've already mentioned that about 20%
of Americans live in an area without any
other local news coverage other than their local
public radio station.
Oh, yeah, like Austin, where we were snowed
in for five days without electricity.
I turned on my local NPR station, KUT,
and I got, this was fresh air with
Terry Grouch.
Bull crap, lady.
You're right.
This is why hyper-local podcasting is the
way to go.
There is no local programming.
This is tremendously important as a public service.
And just because not every single person uses
it every day, you know, I don't drive
on our interstates every day.
And yet, when I need it, it's there.
No, you are in the back of the
limo.
You don't drive.
You better be in the back of the
limo.
But there's a false equivalency anyway.
And by the way, the same places that
don't have any internet don't have the interstate
either.
This is like bull crap.
And these people are still begging for money.
They have a budget of anywhere between 25
and $100 billion from their own numbers that
they just, you heard her, she said it's
1%.
It's unbelievable.
And they get money from the government for
no good reason.
They get money from foundations.
They get money from individuals, you know, viewers
like you.
And they get money from advertising, whatever you
want to call it.
So they got money coming in.
The underwriting is another way.
They've got money coming in every which way
that broadcast people, the people that actually have
to work for a living don't get all
these inputs.
This is ridiculous.
And with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage.
Perfect segue.
Say in the morning to you, the man
who put the C in the new CDC
report.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end.
The one, the only Mr. John C.
DeMora.
Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
In the morning, I ship C, boots on
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In the morning to the trolls.
Show him the room.
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What do we got here?
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I'll tell you something.
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Every day.
John, tell him to do the show.
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$25 billion.
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We would be deconstructing the media like crazy.
25 billion.
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I already got two strikes from your show.
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Two strikes.
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You know, we're not going to have those
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No, no, we're taking the, it's not an
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It's the narrow gate, but we're going that
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We're art directors in that case, and we're
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We use it to promote the show.
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Nessworks, he's been around for a long time.
He did the back to school shot.
The back to school shots lunchbox.
We were actually considering two different ones.
No, between this one and another one.
We liked the back to school shots lunchbox.
Then there was the sign on the Oval
Office door.
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Hey, why is the art generator?
I'm only seeing, maybe it's on a laptop
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It looks fine on mine.
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Good work.
I can always see a lot of fun
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Let's see, there was some barista jokes about
the blue haired, the liberals make better coffee.
I kind of like the chaos, misspelled chaos
by digital 1212 man with the exploding head.
You didn't like that.
Oh, and then Darren O'Neill.
Did we talk about Darren O'Neill?
That he did a, was that the previous
episode?
That might've been the previous.
No, that was episode 1754, right?
Well, you're talking about the farmer's wife?
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I think we talked about that one already.
Yeah, you talked about it already.
Did not understand the hedgehog or porcupine.
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Didn't understand what that was about.
He has a porcupine or a hedgehog holding
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It was weird enough to catch our eye,
but we didn't quite understand what was going
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There's a joke in there, it's eluded us.
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It was the bend your knees while visiting
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And it was a cool little lunchbox, was
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He's on the leaderboard, isn't he?
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Where is he?
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Eighth overall, and let's see, rolling 90 days.
Oh, he's way off the radar there.
How about rolling six?
No, no, rolling 90 days is one.
Oh, oh, oh wow.
Let me see.
Oh yeah, you're right.
Oh, chosen four times, you're right, he's number
one.
All right, Ness Works, good stuff.
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The first thing you always need to look
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You notice him?
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My partner goes out and drives his firetruck
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Really?
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Anyway, nice seeing you.
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I mentioned in the newsletter that I didn't
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Commodore J-stroke.
Is it J or I-stroke?
It must be I-stroke.
No, J-stroke.
It should be I-stroke, it's funnier.
It says.
Norton, Ohio.
Woo!
Gotcha, I gotcha.
415.25, close enough.
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Anybody who gets a big tax refund, we
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Yeah, it's almost like NPR.
This donation puts me behind.
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We don't get the billion dollars.
It's called an NPR donation.
When you get a tax refund and give
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Scott Simon Jingle.
Which would include?
Hello?
Don't put me on the spot.
You get a Scott Simon Jingle.
Offer in succotash.
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There you go.
Please dub me Sir Commodore J-stroke of
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Wow, I'm not sure of the order of
the titles.
Is it Sir Commodore or is it Commodore
Sir?
I heard it both ways.
You can do whatever you want.
Nope, what happened there?
No, I'm coming through.
Hold on, no, all of a sudden you
switched.
I didn't switch anything.
Oh, hold on.
Yes, something completely, what is going on?
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Hold on.
That was, what is going on?
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I'll get rid of all that.
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I don't know why it happened.
It's a glitch.
All right, onward.
Can I get some startup yak karma for
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Working on getting our website up to speed
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Okay, he does canoeing related supplies and content.
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Can I get a, she looks like she
stinks from episode 1754.
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Yippee, yippee as a jingle.
That shit, that really cracked me up, you
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Just the listen to that horn.
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I like your code, Ashley.
Thank you.
Zach Williams comes up at $330 and he's
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No, what are the chances?
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Suspicious, suspicious.
With the same last name.
I wonder what's going on with those two.
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Ah, another good reason to donate.
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No, it must be Jeremy, because it says
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A few years ago, a few years back.
Our donations have been infrequent, but there have
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We call it Bernie Madoff phenomenon because it's
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I looked up Bader Meinhof.
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What is Bader Meinhof?
Imagine this, you've just learned about a new
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Even your neighbor just bought one.
Is it a mere coincidence, or is there
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Welcome to the world of Bader Meinhof phenomenon,
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Yes, yeah.
Well, I didn't know that.
I didn't know it had a name.
And that Bader Meinhof was a bunch of
terrorists.
I thought it was a train stop somewhere
in Germany.
It is a- Well, now we have
to look into this.
Anyway, he continues with the phenomenon to discussing.
He says, one such instance happened to my
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I usually bring that on the road just
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I have it right here.
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They always give me a biscuit on my
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Yo.
Yo, yo, yo, yo.
What do we have?
Let's see, there was some other stuff going
on.
Oh, yes.
I Got some trans Maoism stuff, which could
probably fold into some tick-tock clips you've
got I'm just guessing I've got some tick
-tock clips.
I got two you want to do those
first really?
Yeah, let's get because they're fun and people
love them Okay Let's start with the historians
a line has been crossed For the 10
years that Trump has terrorized the American political
scene.
We have been asking the question of when
do we need to go?
What's the danger signs?
What are the lines that need to be
crossed for you to realize it's time to
pull the shoe it just happened Three prominent
Yale historians have now fled for Canada Jason
Stanley Timothy Snyder whose book I've recommended on
my page and Timothy's wife Marcy Shore have
all decided to leave why because those who
don't know their history are doomed to repeat
it and They looked around at what's going
on in our country and said We're not
safe time to go if I'm going to
be able to continue my work and educate
people on what's going on I Need to
go.
I can't do that here safely anymore because
the Trump administration is rapidly descending into fascism
and dictatorship and They're not safe anymore To
educate the public about the things that they
know about history to try and prevent these
types of things when Hitler took over in
1933 it wasn't just that and mass extermination
There was a lead-up many years obviously
their largest perceived enemy was the Jewish people
But they targeted lots of other groups as
well It was political opponents civil servants who
voted in a way that they didn't agree
with sound familiar We're offering by Turkey so
that they can replace everybody with yes people
in our current government trans people gay people
Disabled people who they didn't want to take
care of they've been attacking gay and trans
people in this country They've been going after
services for disabled people What these historians see
the writing on the wall, so if you
were looking for your oh shit sign It's
here Okay well a couple of things let's
go first of all the three historians there's
there's a couple that are historians the other
person is a Teaches philosophies not a historian
so she's got that wrong the other thing
is the what the woman just mentioned She's
already living in Canada She's been there because
it she took a job up there before
Trump was elected and the other guy was
offered a job for two Years to go
up there, so he's gonna go up there
because it's lucrative and his wife's there the
whole thing This is like just creating something
out of nothing.
It's just astonishing to me well allow me
to Interject your tick-tock clips with a
history lesson of my own.
This is a super cut.
It's only a minute.
Don't worry from 1993 to 2025 so this
is a good history not of fascism in
America, but of oligarchs taking over Bernie Sanders
from 1993 to 2025 this great country of
ours is moving very rapidly in the direction
of Oligarchy the United States of America today
is increasingly Becoming an oligarchy war and more
moving toward an oligarchy We are moving in
the direction of oligarchy We will move even
more rapidly in the direction of an oligarchy
this great country Is evolving into an oligarchic?
society It is called oligarchy and that is
the system we are rapidly moving toward this
is a budget that moves our country rapidly
into the direction of oligarchy a handful of
billionaires are moving this entire planet toward an
oligarchic Society start off with the bad news
which is pretty bad, and that is that
under Donald Trump this country is hurtling Rapidly
toward oligarchy keep it up Bernie one day.
It'll happen.
I'm sure I'm calm Yeah, this is third.
That's 30 years of clips Yes, 30 years
of Bernie Sanders saying we're rapidly moving towards
an oligarchy, but now under Trump.
It's finally really happening oligarchy Yeah, nobody even
cares.
No all right, so the other tick-tock
clip now.
Here's that Here's a classic liberal lady not
sure why no one understands How I feel
you guys know that my husband turned Republican
this term.
I don't know why I threw his ass
out of the house and I have to
do more.
I don't want to shave my head cuz
that's gonna hurt him I'm gonna look ugly,
so I'm not doing that.
I think I'm gonna sleep with his friends.
I think that's the only way I Think
sleeping with his friends will do what do
you guys think his liberal friends of course?
Oh?
Please this is this is tick-tock clickbait
You're not sleeping with anybody.
This is dumb.
She's not sleeping with anybody do better do
better John wish Better hey big news from
the UK this hit the wires everybody It
was all a tizzy here because the UK
High Court has come up with some legal
Definitions and it's a problem It's a long
-awaited decision that defines how equality laws are
applied and who they apply to The Supreme
Court has ruled that the 2010 Equality Act
defines a woman as someone born biologically female
It means the law won't apply to transgender
women with a gender recognition certificate In the
same way it applies to cisgender women the
unanimous decision of this court is that the
terms woman and sex?
in the Equality Act 2010 refer to a
biological woman and biological sex Fascist But we
counsel against reading this judgment as a triumph
of one or more groups in our society
at the expense of another It is not
The judge stressed that the law still gives
transgender people protection against discrimination in a separate
part of the Equality Act What it won't
do though is define trans women as women
in representation on public sector boards for example
Which is what prompted the long-running legal
dispute in the first place?
This is really interesting.
I wonder if this was happening in the
US as part of ESG when it was
still in play the Economic social governance You
had to have equal representation of women in
boardrooms now I'm wondering how many US boardrooms
had trans women on it Because that's what
that's what sparked this whole debate in the
UK Do you know by any chance no,
I have no idea this is in fact,
I wouldn't it wasn't even thinking about it
But the UK was doing it Lobby group
for Women's Scotland complained that ministers had included
trans people as part of the quotas in
that law and brought the challenge against the
Scottish government in 2018 They see the ruling
as a huge victory Have said what we
always believed to be the case that women
are protected By their biological sex that sex
is real and that women can now feel
safe services and spaces Designated for women are
for women the case may have started in
Scotland But the decision adds to a particularly
polarizing debate over transgender rights across the UK
and could be used by campaigners To press
the government over its wider policies a Small
light bright light in the UK all of
a sudden Quite surprising.
It's very surprising.
I think they'd go the other way then
the most ironic clip of the day Which
completely fits the what you said being yourself,
but you copped through the health Leticia James
the angle has obtained shocking allegations leveled by
the Trump administration Against New York Attorney General
Letitia James the Federal Housing Finance Agency has
sent a criminal referral to the DOJ accusing
James of mortgage fraud and a letter to
Attorney General Pam Bondi director Bill Pulte says
James Appears to have falsified record in order
to meet certain lending requirements and receive favorable
loan terms He cited a property in Virginia
that she's allegedly claimed as her principal Residence
and a property in New York that she
claimed as a four-unit structure instead of
the required Instead of a five which Pulte
says means she was able to get a
different type and more favorable loan joining me
now It's Jonathan Shirley Fox News contributor and
law professor at GW University your reaction to
these allegations Well, obviously the irony is perfectly
crushing.
This is a Person who prosecuted Trump for
everything short of ripping a label off a
mattress and Among the charges that were brought
in New York and not just a civil
But the criminal case was making false or
misleading statements to financial institutions if we apply
the Letitia James standard that she Created there'd
be a little question here.
This seems pretty straightforward What do what do
they what the administration is saying is this
was not her principal residence in fact as
a New York Elected official she had to
say that her principal residence was in New
York This was an out-of-state residence,
but also they claimed that in some of
these forms She actually states that her father
is her husband in order to file as
a married couple Once again the Moe prophecy
comes true The black women get taken down
you couldn't take down Trump.
We're taking you down There it is The
irony is delicious.
Yeah, and also they do the woman Fannie
is in trouble down in Georgia It wasn't
she already in trouble.
That's what I meant.
She's in trouble.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah Problems left and right and then
Promises made promises kept we knew this was
gonna happen So it's no surprise, but it
was kind of fun many remember the moment
a direct confrontation at a White House governor's
meeting in February between President Donald Trump and
Maine's Democratic governor Janet Mills about her state
not complying with his executive order banning transgender
men in women's sports Governor Mills is off
mic, but her defiance of the president is
clear.
Are you not going to comply with it?
Fine Well, I'm we are the federal law
Well, you better do it You better do
it because you're not going to get any
federal funding at all if you don't and
by the way your population Even though it's
somewhat liberal, although I did very well there
your population.
It doesn't want men playing in women's sports
So you better come you better comply because
otherwise you're not getting any any federal funding
Every state good.
I'll see you in court Fast forward to
this week when US Attorney General Pam Bondi
announced a federal lawsuit against the state of
Maine over opting not to comply with the
Trump executive order and violations of title 9
sections that address eligibility of transgender students in
athletic competition Yeah, there you go.
So Pam Bondi man.
She is like Fashion Barbie.
I See her sitting in the Oval Office,
you know, there's who was there Bukele From
El Salvador, and she's got her.
I mean everyone's in business attire and she's
Fashion Barbie It's amazing.
She is You got the the hip pants
on and everything So taking care of business
here against Maine Attorney General Bondi outlined the
goals of the federal lawsuit We are seeking
an injunction To get them to stop this
stop what they're doing.
That's pretty simple And we are seeking to
have the titles returned to the young women
who rightfully won these sports education secretary Linda
McMahon's words during the announcement served as more
of a warning than anything else that may
may just Be the start of legal battles
over transgender men in women's sports and even
referred back to that February Confrontation we want
to make sure that if you open women's
sports or intimate facilities to males You expose
yourself to federal rights federal civil rights investigations
Governor Mills will definitely get her wish boom
There you go Yeah, Mills is just a
whore and how does she ever get elected?
She is the ugliest politician now There's nothing
to do with it, yes, I guess a
lot to do with it.
She's she's Her ugliness comes out.
Well, the idea is she's ugly in the
inside.
Yeah, it's internal.
Yeah, I agree Update on Iran Yeah, we
know it's it's just weeks away Iran is
not far from assessing a nuclear bomb From
the UN's nuclear watchdog chief Rafael grossi as
he's traveled to Tehran for talks to be
held today grossi saying it's like a Puzzle
they have the pieces and one day they
could eventually put them together Oh, it's like
Minecraft the UN watchdog tasked with overseeing Iran's
nuclear program and its compliance with the 2015
nuclear deal Which they were collapsed of course
three years later when the United States withdrew
from it during President Donald Trump's first term
Western countries Including the US have long accused
Iran of seeking to acquire nuclear weapons and
allegation Tehran has consistently denied Insisting its program
is for peaceful civilian purposes We're gonna cross
live into our correspondent Say it is EMEA
who joins us now from Tehran say Gracie
then warning once again Really of just how
close Iran could be developing a nuclear bomb.
Oh, well, yes Stewart That was the message
that we received from Rafael grossi loud and
clear last night when he arrived in Tehran
He met the Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi
in a meeting that he described as timely
and important Rafael grossi is in Tehran for
two days So due to the busy schedule
that the Iranian Foreign Minister had Because the
Iranian Foreign Minister is right now on road
on route to Moscow to meet Russia's Vladimir
Putin So the IAEA director-general Rafael grossi
met the Iranian Foreign Minister last night upon
his arrival in Tehran to Make sure that
the sense of diplomacy in Tehran is urgent
and credible assurances according to Rafael grossi in
his post on X Is given to him
to ensure the peaceful nature of the Iranian
nuclear program so a very interesting development and
President Trump announced this while the Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu was sitting in the Oval Office
with him It's like now, you know, we're
gonna talk to Iran and I guess we're
talking to Russia and Iran and Russia are
talking together Maybe we'll have Russia overseas stuff
and well, so you're all coordinating their messages
and net nut Yeah, who's out?
But although it's according to our half of
our listeners, you know, he's running every he's
running the show.
He's I keep trying to get to this
clip.
Tell us more about the situation regarding Iran
and its nuclear program Yes, there's been quite
a bit of news.
The first thing we heard today, which was
itself quite shocking From the Guardian newspaper is
that the United States offered Iran a sort
of exchange deal?
Some sort of peace agreement or the lifting
of sanctions if Iran agreed to dispatch its
uranium its nuclear Material out of Iran to
a third country the nation being mentioned was
Russia But we heard this in the context
of Iran not being interested Even in that
sort of an offer the obviously the news
of a this sort of an American alliance
with Russia Coming upon the u.s You
know acquiescence of Russian efforts in Europe in
Ukraine also caused reverberations here in the Middle
East and subsequently news came of Donald Trump's
envoy Steve Whitkoff saying that in fact, the
United States is not interested in dismantling Iran's
nuclear program the exact thing that Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had demanded in his White
House meeting With Donald Trump just a few
days ago Steve Whitkoff said no We just
don't want them to have a bomb that
the press he said the president says We
don't want them to have a bomb so
we don't want them to have a bomb
and the Iranians Despite evidence to the contrary
have always claimed as you said that they
have just a civilian Program this is a
very interesting development Considering that you know the
last administration that tried to do a deal
with Iran Was kind of along the same
lines.
Yeah, just don't don't make a bomb.
We know you're only two weeks away Don't
make a bomb And they keep showing only
two weeks away, yes, and they keep showing
the aluminum tubes over and over again Yeah,
they have the same B-roll Psychological effect
I'm sure that brings us to Gaza, which
is part of this deal somehow mm-hmm
have the Gaza Israel update Hamas is rejecting
new Israeli ceasefire in Gaza the proposal calls
for disarming the militant group as a condition
for ending the war NPR's Daniel Estrin has
more from Tel Aviv the new Israeli proposal
is to pause the war in Gaza for
a month and a half Free about half
of Hamas as living Israeli hostages within the
first week and negotiate the disarmament of militant
groups a Hamas official tells NPR the group
rejects the proposal the official spoke on condition
of Anonymity because Hamas was still preparing a
formal response to mediators But in a statement
Hamas and other Palestinian groups said their weapons
were for self-defense They said the ceasefire
proposal did not include guarantees to end the
war and withdraw Israeli troops from Gaza Israel's
defense minister says Israel is changing tactics and
won't withdraw troops from areas.
They capture in Gaza well that brings us
to the governor Shapiro story Which we looked
at that on the last show and said
hmm That has FBI written all over it
now.
I'm not so sure Tonight, so this is
the suspect police are calling a domestic terrorist
They say Cody bomber scaled a fence and
firebombed governor Josh Shapiro's residence while the governor
and his family were sleeping upstairs these images
show the damage from two Molotov cocktails made
from beer bottles and Gasoline that prosecutors say
bomber took from his lawnmower the piano room
and part of the dining room destroyed chairs
and tables charred other Objects melted in the
same spot hours earlier the Shapiro's celebrating the
first night of Passover Lori and I are
overwhelmed By the prayers and the messages of
support that we've received from all across Pennsylvania
and all across the United States a Senior
law enforcement official tells ABC News authorities are
investigating whether this attack could have been motivated
by the governor's Jewish faith Shapiro and his
family were gathered Saturday evening with two dozen
others.
He shared this photo of his Seder plate
Hours later state troopers banging on the door
to get everyone out Chief had the door
not been closed Could the fire have spread
further and deeper inside the mansion putting the
governor and his family at risk If that
door wasn't closed the fire would have spread
and would have definitely put the governor at
even greater risk What'd you say how?
How what's the door got to do with
any the windows were broken?
I don't know That's just that's for the
story What are you and by the way
it wasn't no we didn't think the FBI
had anything to do with that We thought
the FBI and I still think so had
something to do with that maniac kid who
killed his two parents And I was caught
in Kansas.
He was gonna go you're right Drone Trump,
I'm sorry Wrong the FBI has backed off
of that story because I don't I think
they were behind like that He was messaging
Ukraine.
He was gonna get a job.
They're right.
No, you're right And I think the FBI
backed off of it completely not taking it
No, don't talk about it because I don't
think it was intended that he was gonna
kill his parents No, and then what happened
is they're like, oh, so what are we
gonna do?
Ah, let's have this guy firebomb Shapiro This
is the part of the fence the suspect
Inside the governor's residence where he set the
fire with an incendiary device Investigators cut away
this part of the fence so they could
do DNA testing today The governor surveyed the
damage police say bomber fled the scene and
later turned himself in Authorities say the 38
year old mechanic had a plan walking for
approximately one hour from his residence to the
governor's residence Allegedly while harboring hatred towards governor
Shapiro Asked by police what he would have
done if the governor found him inside bomber
Allegedly replied would have beaten him with his
hammer in the Oval Office president Trump on
the incident today Not me.
The attacker was not a fan of Trump.
I understand just from what I read and
from what I've been told The attacker basically
wasn't a fan of anybody.
It's probably just a whack job Certainly a
thing like that cannot be allowed to happen
Now we know what it was really about
Tonight state police say the man accused of
firebombing the Pennsylvania governor's mansion on the first
night of Passover Called them confessed and said
he did it because of governor Josh Shapiro
support for Israel in its war against Hamas
a Newly released search warrant application said Cody
bomber called 9-1-1 less than an
hour after the arson attack Identifying himself by
name and telling the operator governor Josh Shapiro
needs to know that he will not take
part in his plans for what He wants
to do to the Palestinian people The document
said bomber went on to say he needs
to stop having my friends killed Our people
have been put through too much by that
monster and you know where to find me
I'm not hiding and I will confess to
everything that I've done Sadly not the last
of these attacks.
We're going to see We don't have a
tape of this bullcrap You know, why are
you questioning the authorities?
geez Well, I bet he did say that
I don't know maybe if he did or
didn't doesn't matter because he obviously did it
No, obviously, I don't know that either to
be honest about it But the fact is
is the guys that is a I think
Trump had it.
He's a whack job Yeah, back to you.
I guess I'm screwed since we're international.
I guess I'm Unusual clips about Ecuador five
-minute warning Well, this will be it then
I got two clips from Ecuador Here we
go Ecuador is famous for its beaches and
its capital city Quito high in the foothills
of the Andes But in the past few
years Ecuador has been dragged into a brutal
international drug war Resulting in one of the
highest homicide rates in Latin America that has
helped make tomorrow's elections One of the country's
most important in years appears Cary Khan joins
us from Ecuador.
Hey, Carrie, hi Hi, so let's start with
this.
Where are you?
And what is the mood like there?
I'm in Guayaquil It's the biggest city in
Ecuador.
It's also its economic center here Unfortunately, this
port city and surrounding towns have become the
most dangerous and deadly as for the mood
I'd say people are just guarded and anxious
for this election to come to an end
Exhausted from the violence that's engulfed the country
in recent years and actually in recent months
January and February of this year have been
the Most violent ever recorded with a homicide
every hour being reported Wow Can you just
contextualize that for us a little more?
Why has this violence erupted so quickly first?
It's been several years of gang violence here
with the last few Increasingly brutal as gangs
splinter and fight for territory Ecuador in the
geography a sandwich between Columbia and Peru Those
are the biggest cocaine producers in the world
and Ecuador brings a lot of other advantages
besides geography It's a dollar economy money laundering
is easier here It's visa laws had always
been lax and that allowed a lot of
foreigners to easily come in and corruption is
widespread It has extensive ports and a long
Pacific coastline lending great access to routes to
the US and also to Europe Which is
seen as surge in cocaine use Currently there
are Mexican Colombian and even Albanian cartels operating
here and of course together with the Ecuador
Ecuador's local gangs which have Proliferated as the
economy has stalled out here, too.
You know what those people need John They
need stable coin That's what they need they
need so what is a Europeans using coke.
Oh, yeah.
Oh coke is big in Holland to Everybody's
happen.
It's been that way for a while.
I mean it The Port of Rotterdam is
probably one of the biggest entry points for
coke To get to get all throughout Europe
You know the good old macro mafia is
running it a lot of it here.
Yeah.
Oh, no and just cheap Everybody I got
some coke you want some cocoa coke funny
enough didn't get any offered at the party
No, you're a chumper Man you're dark So
that is the context for this election, which
is a runoff the winner will be president
for the next four years Tell us about
the two candidates, right?
The race is a repeat of the 2023
snap elections and the current president who won
those has been in power for only 16
months He's 37 year old Daniel Noboa He's
the son of the richest man here in
Ecuador the family business is bananas one of
Ecuador's largest exports The boy is a close
ally of President Trump and he's pro-business
He's pro free trade his opponent again is
a leftist former lawmaker and lawyer Luisa Gonzalez
She's 47 and is a very close ally
of the former firebrand leftist president Rafael Correa
Who ruled Ecuador for 10 years?
He's in self-imposed exile after being convicted
of corruption But he still has a lot
of sway and a loyal base here Is
it fair to say that the crime and
violence are the big issue for voters given
all of this?
Yes, it is the issue.
It seems as if everyone has been hit
by the crime wave here But you also
hear a lot about former president Correa still
too.
He's been out of power for nearly 10
years So it's kind of crazy to hear
so much about him, but there is a
lot of polarization His supporters look fondly on
his rule They tend to gloss over his
corruption charges his detractors blame him for much
of the current economic and security crisis now
And like Correa, they say Gonzalez will bring
socialism to Ecuador both candidates Those say they
will keep relying on the military for fighting
the drug gangs President Noboa has declared a
state of emergency and declared.
He is fighting an internal war Against terrorists.
He's asked Trump personally for u.s. Military
system and even to put a base here
Gonzalez says that's a violation of Ecuadorian sovereignty
and she says she'll put more money into
social programs and in hard-hit communities Oh,
there you go.
You know the Rubio Rubio to Ecuador got
to get a base in there get your
people some stable coin Yes, well, I think
that I said it before the reason if
you pick Rubio, it's cuz he speaks.
He's fluent in Spanish.
He's He's going to South America.
He's doing deals down there.
He's already straightened out the Panama thing We
think I mean you can't really know what
the hell's going on.
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I can just open one of the newsletters
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