Yeah, I saw the fly, I'm not buying
it.
Adam Currie, John C.
Devorak.
It's Thursday, March 20th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1748.
This is no agenda.
Suffering a constitutional crisis.
And broadcasting live from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region Number
6.
In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Currie.
And from Northern Silicon Valley where we discovered
that the Aussie intelligence agencies were behind the
cover-up of JFK's assassination.
I'm John C.
Devorak.
I'm sorry, I crashed you.
You were out of runway.
I was.
You were out of runway, man.
I know.
Sorry, just say I'm John C.
Devorak and I'll edit it in.
No one will know the difference.
Right now?
Yeah.
I'm John C.
Devorak.
It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
No one will know.
There will be no edit.
You're right.
You are correct, sir.
There will never be an edit.
Editing is no fun.
It's just not fun.
No, that's the point.
I don't want to deal with that.
Well, the files are out and we now
know Elvis is alive.
Well, they're not completely out.
We have to remember that the third are
still missing.
Yeah.
You know what?
I have to be honest with you.
I really don't care.
There's nothing earth shattering.
I mean, half the people say the Russians
knew it.
They told the CIA.
The CIA didn't.
You know, they covered it up.
The Jews did it.
I mean, it's everything is everything out there.
Yeah, it depends on who you want it.
Well, no, I mean, of course, it depends
on what you look at.
But it's like there's no conclusive evidence.
Do you mind if I just play the
one clip I have, which is from the
CIA broadcast systems?
Which would be the only ones you'd be
interested in in their report for this particular
matter.
After more than six decades of waiting, several
thousand new pieces of history now in America's
hands.
They've been waiting for that for decades.
And I said during the campaign, I do
it.
And I am a man of my word.
On Tuesday, the Trump administration released thousands of
unredacted files related to the assassination of President
John F.
Kennedy in 1963 in Dallas.
Most of the files are now posted on
the National Archives website, sharing important details about
Lee Harvey Oswald, who investigators say was JFK's
assassin.
Even ones detailing Oswald's movement in Mexico and
the Soviet Union months before the assassination.
What could be major but won't be what
the public's expecting is information that the CIA
knew more about what an unhinged character Lee
Harvey Oswald was only six weeks before the
assassination.
Author Gerald Posner wrote the book Case Closed,
one of the first publications to state Oswald
alone killed the president.
He says these files are not a smoking
gun, but still important.
I think that it became part of Dallas's
DNA.
It was associated with Dallas in a way
that other assassinations have not been.
According to FBI expert and JFK historian Ferris
Rookstool, he says, quote, the records paint a
much broader picture of intelligence involvement in monitoring,
downplaying and concealing critical information about Oswald and
the JFK assassination.
The FBI and CIA had pre-assassination intelligence
on Oswald's activities, but chose not to act
and later engaged in deliberate efforts to mislead
official investigations.
The CIA is leading us down their path,
I guess.
Of course, that's what you do.
I have two clips.
OK.
JFK, this is from NTD.
Oh, well, that is quality guaranteed.
The Trump administration releases the JFK files, making
good on the president's campaign promise.
NTD correspondent Jason Blair gives us a snapshot
of the release.
I think it's the same guy who I
just had in my clip, the Jason Blair
guy.
I could be wrong.
The Trump administration released the files on Tuesday.
They contain about roughly 60 to 80,000
pages.
And some of these files have been released
before.
However, there was a lot of information redacted.
And this batch appears to have much of
that redacted information.
And this is something that President Trump said
that he wanted.
So people have been waiting for decades for
this.
I don't believe we're going to redact anything.
I said, just don't redact.
You can't redact.
And you'll make your own determination.
The files have been released on the U
.S. National Archives website.
And it could possibly be weeks before we
know for sure if there are any bombshell
revelations in the JFK case.
So far, there are new details coming out,
with a lot of stuff still being discovered.
For example, there is information detailing how the
CIA went about tapping telephones in Mexico City
to monitor communications between the Soviets and Cubans
at their diplomatic facilities.
Which these facilities are where Kennedy assassin Lee
Harvey Oswald visited in the months leading up
to the assassination.
There's also instructions detailing CIA operatives on how
to wiretap.
And there's new info on covert activities in
Cuba targeting revolutionary leader Fidel Castro.
And there's been some buzz on a previously
released note going around again on social media.
This allegedly was written by JFK's son, JFK
Jr., in 1994 to then-Senator Biden.
In the letter, he called Biden a traitor.
Reportedly, the FBI did investigate this and wasn't
able to confirm that the letter was really
written by JFK Jr. I think that was
the Easter egg they put in there.
Let's just put a little fun thing in
here, shall we?
Let's do a little...
Oh, I'm sure there's more than one.
Something a little fun.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of statecraft.
CIA wanted Israel redacted.
You know, it really is the biggest ever
in all show history.
The distraction of the week on the old
agenda, the over there.
Heaven forbid we bring out the Epstein files.
Oh, no, we can't do that.
So let's play part two of this.
A court has blocked that part of Trump's
order for now.
Still, Cameradela says the problem is...
Nobody really understands what illegal DEI means.
He says nothing about federal anti-discrimination law
has changed.
What's this?
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's completely the wrong clip.
I don't know.
I don't know how that happened.
I'm sorry.
JFK's grandson, Jack Schlossberg, reacted to the...
I was wondering why DEI was in the
JFK files.
...release criticizing networks for covering it.
He wrote on social media, quote, You don't
need to cover the fake JFK documents story,
especially when there's so much real news.
Oh, there you go.
JFK's nephew, RFK Jr., who is the current
Secretary of Health and Human Services, has frequently
been a supporter of the release of these
files.
He has previously said, quote, A government that
withholds information is inherently fearful of its citizens'
ability to make informed decisions and participate actively
in democracy.
So you're telling me that there's another tranche
yet to be released or will never be
released?
According to a guy that showed up on
Jesse Waters, he says one third of the
files are missing.
And by the way, the Schlossberg character who
condemned the JFK Jr. commentary where he called
Biden a...
and he's a Kennedy, I guess, where he
called Biden a traitor.
Who cares?
Well, it's...
Why is he so...
somebody...
why is he defending Biden in any situation
like this anyway?
It's beyond me.
The whole thing is kind of dumb.
But yeah, it's a distraction, but at the
same time, it's a good...
it's fun.
Oh, yeah.
These guys, there's these threads all over Twitter
that go on forever.
My favorite is...
And there's redactions all over the place.
Who are we kidding here?
I love it when people throw it into
Grok.
Come on, Grok, tell me who killed JFK.
Grok has done nothing.
Grok can't even draw a Grok face.
Grok is a front for the CIA.
People have asked Grok, they always says that
the documents prove that Oswald was the lone
assassin when it comes up with it.
Yeah, it's actually...
I've been noticing this more and more.
People I respect will say, well, I looked
it up on Grok, or I looked it
up on ChatGPT.
I'm like, I can't talk to you.
You looked it up on ChatGPT?
That means it's right?
What do you think this is?
It's like, did you look at the sources?
Did you just take that for whatever ChatGPT
said is true?
It's concerning.
I have used these systems a lot, and
I get the biggest kick out of the
fact that if you use more than one,
in other words, you don't ask Grok, you
ask Grok.
Oh, you get different answers.
You get different answers.
Of course.
And if that doesn't tell you that, well,
I don't know here.
Why is that giving me a different answer?
The question is, what are you doing in
this moment?
What?
What are you doing in this moment?
Oh, the in this moment.
Yes, yes, I had that.
Did I get the in this?
I got it for you.
The strength that we have is in this
moment.
Listen to your constituents.
Center them in this moment.
But I can tell you that there are
a lot of people that are watching his
leadership in this moment.
This is the moment.
No, I think about what's happening in this
moment.
What's important is that we meet this moment.
So are these current Democrats the ones to
meet the moment?
Meet the moment.
What do you want to see us doing
right now in this moment?
And which Democrats are actually going to stand
up against Elon Musk and Donald Trump in
this moment?
The fight that you all are exhibiting is
not just what the base wants, but it's
what this moment requires.
In this moment.
OK, well, let's see.
You got that.
I have.
I had the same clip.
You did.
It's a super cut of in this moment.
Let's try to figure out why.
What?
What is this all about?
It's about this moment.
It's this very moment in history.
This time.
It's kind of like in the morning.
What is the op here?
What is they what are they trying to
accomplish with by dropping this in this moment
into every conversation?
I mean, what is it supposed to do?
I think it's I think it's an NLP
psyche.
It's an NLP trick.
It's like what I don't I don't really
know.
It just it's noticeable in this very noticeable.
But I just when I first ran into
it, I I'm thinking.
What are you trying to do?
Are you guys that lost?
Well, I mean, or is it code to
show that you're on the same team?
Maybe I mean.
It's it baffles me.
OK, hold on a second.
I'm going to ask chat GPT.
They will tell me that's cheap.
The phrase here we go.
Here we go.
You grok it.
The phrase do the phrase in this moment
can be relevant to NLP neuro linguistic programming
in a couple of ways.
Yes, money.
What was the what question?
Oh, my question is, how is in this
moment in NLP?
Of course, I had to prompt it.
I just want to make sure we're coming
out of the blue with that mindfulness and
presence.
NLP often emphasizes the power of being fully
present language, patterns and patterns and reframing.
Are they just throwing that in state management?
Oh, I like that.
The concept of state refers to one's mental,
emotional and physiological condition.
Practitioners often use phrases like in this moment
to guide individuals into a more resourceful state
by directing attention to their current feelings.
And I think that's true.
That is probably what it is.
That's probably straight from the NLP guidebook.
It's like in this moment.
So when you're watching anything.
Oh, my God, what's happening in this moment?
Let me feel let me let me feel
inside myself.
I don't feel good in this moment.
How do you feel in this moment?
Maybe, maybe.
Well, I can't figure out what these guys
are up to at all.
Well, in this moment, I think the real
in this moment is what's happening in Europe.
They have gone collectively nuts.
I mean, like, really all out warmonger.
Let's just not pussyfoot around it.
Let's spend the money.
Let's go into debt.
We need the war machine.
A road map to rearmament.
On Wednesday in Brussels, European commissioners laid out
their 800 billion euro plan to make Europe
an independent defense power.
450 million European Union citizens should not have
to depend on 340 million Americans.
OK, that's fine.
To defend ourselves against 140 million Russians who
cannot defeat 38 million Ukrainians.
Ideas already tutored by commission.
How arrogant is that?
He said 420 million Europeans should not have
to reply, rely on 340 million Americans to
defeat 140 million Russians who can't even defeat
8 million Ukrainians.
That's because they haven't used their 20,000
nuclear weapons yet, you tool.
Defeats 38 million Ukrainians.
Ideas already tutored by Commission President von DeLayen
in recent weeks.
The commission believes 650 billion euros could be
raised block wide if member states are given
more latitude in their budgetary rules and laid
out on Wednesday plans for the 150 billion
euro security action for Europe or safe fund.
The EU would take out loans in its
own name and issue loans to member states
making joint purchases of defense equipment, an approach
aimed at promoting interoperability between member states' militaries.
The instrument also hopes to stimulate homegrown defense
industries with 65% of funds ring fenced
to be spent in the EU, Norway and
Ukraine.
Companies in third countries like the US, UK
and Turkey could benefit too, but subject to
conditions.
Other partner countries' entities and products can be
eligible for common procurements subject to an agreement
with the union on financial conditions and security
of supply.
All right, so we get 40% of
that, so roughly 300 billion euros.
We'll take it.
And meanwhile, where we heard on the last
show that Volkswagen is retooling one of their
closed factories to make bombs.
The Belgians and other car manufacturers, they're like,
this is a great idea.
57,000 square meters of industrial space here
in Brussels is currently at a standstill.
But what if this huge Audi factory became
a weapons factory?
That's the idea put forward by the Belgian
defense minister in the wake of European plans
to rearm Europe.
There's a factory that's no longer in use
with an industrial base that's super easy to
convert to the defense industry.
For example, for light armored vehicles and for
other possibilities, including drone production, many Belgian companies
are interested.
I bet they are.
Since no one's buying the cars, apparently they're
shutting down.
But the worst, John, the worst came from
Queen Ursula, who traveled to Denmark, very strategic,
of course, because what do we know about
Denmark?
They still think they own Greenland.
So she went to Denmark.
She goes to a military academy and talks
to the cadets.
She doesn't say cadets.
She says cadets.
And she starts off by saying, what is
the best way to avoid war?
If you were to give a recommendation, if
the Currie-Dvorak Consulting Group were to give
a recommendation, how do you avoid war?
Well, I think you negotiate, you do avoid
war.
You try to keep open communications between various
possible war advocates or not advocates, but people
that you might have a beef with.
Boy, you couldn't have been more off base.
That is not how you avoid war.
And this historic academy is one of the
reasons I chose Denmark to speak about security
and to make the case that if Europe
wants to avoid war, Europe must get ready
for war.
You want to avoid war by getting ready
for war.
Well, that's not quite the way I would
have done it.
This is insanity.
And Denmark is acutely aware of its own
security.
Poor Denmark.
Oh, yeah.
And these poor kids sitting there.
Not least.
Denmark's a small country that, you know, just
gets caught up in this stuff.
They don't really have any at this point
in history.
They're just they should stay.
They should be like smart money.
Switzerland, which just stays out of these conflicts.
No, no.
Instead, it will hold your money.
Hey, hey, we'll hold your beer while you
two guys fight the cannon fodder kids over
there.
Not least because of its unique strategic geography,
but also because of recent events.
I'm, of course, talking about the ongoing war
in Ukraine and conflicts and other theaters, but
also the repeated and continued attacks on critical
infrastructure in the Baltic Sea.
And, of course, the ongoing competition for influence
in the Arctic region, including Greenland.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, yeah, that's why she's there, including Greenland.
And the war economy is coming back.
Of course, Russia, they can't even turn back
if they wanted to.
No way.
And we are we just deserting them.
The security architecture that we relied on can
no longer be taken for granted.
The age of spheres of influence and power
competition is well and truly back.
Just take Russia.
We already know its determination to deny other
countries their right to choose their own path.
And now Russia is on an irreversible path.
Irreversible.
They can't turn back.
It's irreversible.
Irreversible.
To creating a pure war economy.
It has massively expended its military industrial production
capacity.
Forty percent of the federal budget is spent
on defense, nine percent of its GDP.
And this investment fuels its war of aggression
in Ukraine while preparing it for future confrontation
with European democracies.
There's no evidence of this.
She's making this up as she goes along.
And just as these threats increase, we see
our oldest partner, the United States, move their
focus to the Indo-Pacific.
Well, yeah, there's that.
We're building a big, beautiful ship.
She got that part right.
So what exactly does this war economy entail?
What are you going to spend all of
this money on, Ursula?
That means large scale pan-European cooperation to
address gaps in priority areas.
That starts with fundamentals like infrastructure and military
mobility.
By 2030, we need a functioning EU wide
network of land corridors, airports and seaports to
facilitate the fast transport of troops and military
equipment.
At the same time, we need to invest
in air and missile defense, artillery systems, ammunition
and missiles.
And we have to learn the lessons from
the battlefield and the changing nature of modern
warfare.
We have seen the importance of drones and
counter drone systems in Ukraine.
And Europe needs to develop all types of
unmanned systems and the advanced software and sensors
behind them.
And the same goes for cyber and using
military artificial intelligence or quantum computing.
You can put that in your shaggy dog
story now.
Oh yeah, that's where your money's going, people.
Quantum computing.
But then the final clip, the final clip
is really what this comes down to because
it's all just about getting Ukraine and just
making Ukraine European or NATO or whatever we
want to make it.
And this strategy has a name.
Ladies and gentlemen, the third priority for European
defense is perhaps the most strategic.
And that is increasing support for Ukraine.
This is what we call the steel porcupine
strategy.
Yeah, baby, steel porcupine.
The steel porcupine, but the steel porcupine strategy.
Yes, it's the steel porcupine strategy.
And she will explain.
This is what we call the steel porcupine
strategy, because we need to make Ukraine strong
enough to be absolutely indigestible for any potential
invader.
You see, if someone wants to eat the
steel porcupine, then the steel spikes will stick
out of your throat and your stomach.
This is it's indigestible.
Ukraine will be a steel porcupine.
So we need to invest in Ukraine's strength
in deterrence through denial.
We have done a lot already.
We have supported you.
They're in denial, all right.
Deterrence through denial.
In deterrence through denial.
We have done a lot already.
We have supported Ukraine with about 50 billion
euros in military support alone and trained more
than 73,000 Ukrainian troops.
And our support for Ukraine's accession to the
European Union remains as strong as ever.
But there is a lot more that we
can do.
Oh, yes.
So much more.
They're crazy, John.
They're completely nuts.
She wants war.
She just wants war.
I don't see any other way to look
at it.
Yeah, that's what she wants.
How do you get that way?
Adrenochrome.
Meanwhile, let's play this clip before we continue,
which is the Ukraine energy fiasco.
Yeah.
NTD?
Yeah.
Ukraine now agrees to a partial ceasefire with
Russia after President Trump speaks with Ukrainian President
Volodymyr Zelensky.
But as Trump says the two countries are
on track for a ceasefire, overnight strikes raise
questions about enforcement of a truce.
Joining us now live is NTD's White House
correspondent Iris Tao.
Good evening, Iris.
What are the biggest takeaways from Trump's call
with Zelensky today?
Good evening to you, Tiff.
So the hour-long call between President Trump
and Zelensky today yielded a few major things.
One, Zelensky now agrees to a temporary energy
ceasefire after Trump just yesterday got Putin to
agree to one also over a long phone
call.
And two, we might be seeing a new
deal coming out between the U.S. and
Ukraine.
The White House says President Trump today in
the call suggested to Zelensky that the U
.S. can help Ukraine run some of its
power plants, and that is to give them
some protection of their energy infrastructure.
President Trump also discussed Ukraine's electrical supply and
nuclear power plants.
He said that the United States could be
very helpful in running those plants with its
electricity and utility expertise.
American ownership of those plants would be the
best protection for that infrastructure and support for
Ukrainian energy infrastructure.
Here's what I don't understand.
The M5M is emphatic about pronouncing Turkey as
Turkey-ay, Kyiv as Kyiv.
But when it comes to Putin, it's Putin.
Pooing, I'm just pooing.
Or as Mark Levin calls him, Putin.
Oh, Putin, yeah.
I've heard Putin by more than a few
people.
Yeah, that's probably part of it.
Which, of course, I believe is just a
subconscious way of implying it's Rasputin, Putin.
I have a funny NPR foreign clip which
just, like, it made no sense when I
heard this one.
Listen to this.
Live from NPR News in Washington, I'm Korva
Coleman.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he plans to
talk with President Trump today by
phone.
This comes after Trump spoke yesterday with Russian
President Vladimir Putin.
The Russian leader says his country will agree
to stop targeting Ukrainian energy facilities for 30
days.
But Ukrainian officials say Russia is still firing
drones at them, even hitting two hospitals overnight.
NPR's Eleanor Beardsley says that the conversation between
Trump and Putin has gotten Europe's attention.
This is deeply shaking the continent.
There's a view that Putin is stalling so
he can continue the war and that he's
playing with Trump, who Europeans believe is naive,
has no experience with Putin, and wants a
peace deal so badly he'll do anything.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
You can't have it both ways, NPR.
You can't say that he's a puppet of
Putin, that there's Russian collusion, and then say
he has no experience with Putin.
They're contradicting themselves now.
They don't know what to do.
They're warmongers too.
They are.
Who is the host of PBS NewsHour these
days?
What is the format of the NewsHour?
The format is they bring, there's a woman
with kind of a multicultural woman and various
guys, usually a black gay guy.
Is it, oh, Capehart?
No.
No, no, no.
Capehart is a commentator.
No.
Is the manhands lady on the NewsHour?
No, the manhands lady, that's Kirsten Welker.
She's on NBC, Need to Press.
I found a NewsHour bit from 1994 about,
now this is about NATO expansion.
And it was, well, he calls it a
debate.
It wasn't really a debate.
And the so-called debate is between the
former ambassador to Russia, Matlock, and Henry Kissinger.
And listen to the difference in PBS NewsHour
from what we know it today and what
it was in 1994.
First tonight, the debate over expanding the North
Atlantic Treaty Alliance to several countries in Central
Europe.
The debate flared today at the European Security
and Cooperation Summit in speeches by President Clinton
and Russian President Yeltsin.
Since the collapse of communism in Central Europe,
there have been proposals and debate over whether
and how to expand NATO, which now guarantees
mutual protection for 16 Western nations in Europe
and the U.S. and Canada to such
countries as Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and
Slovakia.
Today at the so-called CSCE Summit in
Budapest, President Yeltsin repeated his country's opposition to
that idea.
He warned of a cold peace and said
the world could not be run from one
capital, a reference to Washington and the U
.S. But the issue of NATO expansion has
also divided American officials and analysts.
We take up the story with two of
them, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and
Jack Matlock, former U.S. ambassador to the
Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia, now a professor at
Columbia University.
I found this to be fascinating because it's
not even that long ago.
What is it, 30 years?
1994?
Yeah.
And these countries hadn't come into NATO yet.
And already the Russian president was saying, hey,
hey, hey, no, no, no, no, no.
And but no, that doesn't matter.
We don't care.
Starting with you, Ambassador Matlock, the Russians are
clearly very unhappy about the prospect of expanding
NATO.
Let's start with this.
Actually, what is the U.S. policy right
now?
How quickly is the Clinton administration pushing to
expand NATO from what you can read?
Clinton.
My understanding is that their position is that
the East European should be prepared for NATO.
And though no date has been set, that
the question is not if, but when.
And NATO itself recently, just for background here,
recently voted to come up within a year
with a list of sort of conditions for
membership or potential members.
So the issue is moving forward, as you
understand it.
Is that correct?
The issue is moving forward.
But we have to be careful not to
trap ourselves in an endless waffle when we
say the issue is not if, but when.
The responsibility of national leaders is not to
ask rhetorical questions, but to answer them.
So we have an obligation to give some
sort of an answer to when.
And the Russians are not unhappy about the
timing.
They're unhappy about the fact.
About the fact.
And therefore, we ought to face that as
early as possible.
So the Russians were unhappy about the fact
at all while we collectively were already talking
about doing it.
But who was really pushing it?
This answer was surprising.
Well, where is the pressure, as you understand
it, Jack Matlock, where is the pressure coming
from for quick expansion inside NATO, inside?
We know that certain Eastern European or Central
European countries like Poland would love to be
a member quickly.
But where is it coming from with inside
NATO?
Well, my understanding is that the Germans have
been sort of the principal advocates within NATO.
They're joined by certain others.
I'm one who feels that we while we
should leave the possibility open, that we should
make clear that we would back expansion only
if there is a threat which needs to
be met.
In other words, we should use it to
pressure the Russians to ease off on the
rhetoric and to behave in a manner which
does not threaten the one.
Another problem here is that the I think
it's much more important for the Poles, the
Czechs and the other East Europeans to get
in the European Union.
This is important economically.
They need the markets.
And I suspect that some Europeans look at
NATO as almost a surrogate for doing what
would be a more difficult matter for them,
and that is opening their markets to them.
I thought that to be interesting.
That was interesting.
In fact, well, this goes back to this
period.
That was Rob.
That was Robert McNeil.
Yes, that was the host there.
And that was during the era when it
was called before was NewsHour.
It was called the McNeil-Lehrer Report.
And that's those are two guys that came
from mainstream media over to PBS to set
up shops because they felt that the half
-hour news shows on network TV, which was
no good with this, no good.
So they figured an hour with a little
more thoughtful discussion would be better.
Not knowing that giving an hour away like
that or creating this hour show after they
left both McNeil and Lehrer, it turned except
during that short period when Gwen Ifill was
there and she kept it in play.
And then it just became a left-wing
bunch of stooges.
So I thought it was interesting that Europe
was cobbling together what they're now completing, the
European Union project, and that they really saw
NATO, a war machine, as a way to
get that going.
And luckily, last clip, former Ambassador Matlock reminds
us that we made some promises about NATO
expansion.
There is one other factor here that we
seem to be forgetting.
And we did, though it was not a
legally binding assurance, we gave categorical assurances to
Gorbachev back when the Soviet Union existed that
if a united Germany was able to stay
in NATO, NATO would not be moved eastward.
And, you know, I think that the current
Russian government is very clear.
So we would be.
But but that that assurance was given to
the Soviet Union.
That is right.
It is not a legally binding.
That's that's that's their their their their loophole.
Well, we gave that assurance to the Soviet
Union, not to Russia.
You see, it's very, very different thing.
But it was, you might say, a geopolitical
deal.
And if we simply ignore it, then I
certainly if I were a Russian, it would
be hard for me to interpret this, even
though it may not be intended that way.
And it is not.
And now you can hear Kissinger talking about
those pesky Russians.
They're stopping the American war machine from doing
important work as anything less than an attempt
to shut Russia off from Eastern Europe.
And that was that was a line that
that Yeltsin used today, that it would isolate
Russia.
And so the seeds of discord.
But here's a country that has 20,000
nuclear weapons.
The possibility that Poland would start marching into
Russia is zero.
And I repeat, this is not in terms
of political architecture conceived as a Cold War
situation, because Russia can participate in the European
Security Council in all the political issues.
But one has to keep in mind what
a weak Russia has done in the last
few months.
When we were assembling forces against Iraq a
few weeks ago, when we were assembling forces
in Iraq a few weeks ago, really, back
in 1994 already, huh?
Yeah, of course.
Russia said no.
The Russian foreign minister appeared in Baghdad in
a political demonstration that certainly in practice discouraged
any American military move on Serbia.
They have clearly taken traditional Russian positions.
Understandably so.
But Russia thinks of itself as a major
geopolitical player, which it has every right to
do.
And I think it was two years later
that we bombed Serbia.
Yeah, Clinton.
Yeah.
Was that Madeleine Albright who was then the
Secretary of State?
It could be.
I think so.
That's the moment where we accidentally hit the
Chinese embassy and blew it to smithereens.
Oops.
Yeah.
So this has always been a horrible system.
I don't think President Trump's going to get
us out of it.
I think he wants to keep it.
I don't think he can get us out
of it.
No.
And with all this JFK stuff coming out,
RFK, JFK, RFK, JFK.
The K's.
All the K's.
Stuff coming out.
It's going to, you know, where it looks
like they're going to.
Bobby Kennedy still sticks by the guns where
it's, you know, he says.
CIA did.
JFK pulled us out of Vietnam, or said
let's get out of Vietnam completely because there
were 75 dead soldiers that were over there
and they shouldn't have been fighting, but they
were, and he was dead a month later.
His commentary.
Yeah, but there's, I don't think there's anything
about Vietnam in the JFK drop.
Is there?
I don't know.
I haven't heard anything about it.
Let's ask Grok.
Grok.
Ask Grok.
Lee Harvey Oswald.
Yeah.
That's the guy.
All right.
Where do you want to go from here?
I have a lot.
Well.
Whoa.
Since you're.
I'm sorry.
I changed my position in the chair and
banged the mic with my fist.
Oh, no.
So there's that.
How about going to, since we're down, let's
do the Ukraine peace talks and get that
out of the way from the from the
World Service of the BBC.
Yes.
Short wave.
Yes.
Ladies and gentlemen, the BBC World Service.
US has confirmed further peace talks will be
held in Saudi Arabia on Sunday, but it's
not yet known whether a delegation from Ukraine
or Russia will be involved.
In his call with Donald Trump on Wednesday,
President Putin agreed to continue the talks.
Our Russia editor, Steve Rosenberg, says it's a
sign of a growing relationship between the two
countries.
The Kremlin is saying the kind of things
we haven't heard the Kremlin say about an
American president for years.
President Putin and Trump understand each other well.
Today, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov claimed that Vladimir
Putin and Donald Trump trust each other and
understand each other well.
There is another thing that President Trump understands
because the Russians have dropped plenty of hints,
and that is that there are lots of
lucrative deals potentially for America to do in
Russia.
Lucrative deals.
Oh, no.
But Trump.
It wasn't covered by NPR.
Trump's a bonehead.
He doesn't know.
He has no experience with Putin.
Putin.
Part two.
Which is fueling suspicion that Mr. Trump may
prioritize deal-making with Moscow over ensuring a
just peace for Ukraine.
Oh, the just word.
A just peace, which means.
Just.
Taking stuff.
Just peace.
How about just peace, not a just peace?
A just peace, which means we take your
300 billion euros and we tell you to
sod off.
Mind you, one deal that Donald Trump has
so far failed to convince Vladimir Putin to
sign up to is a comprehensive ceasefire.
The Kremlin leader has laid down a string
of conditions for that, including an end to
Western arms shipments to Kiev and to Western
intelligence sharing with Ukraine.
Still, the Kremlin continues to praise Donald Trump.
On the streets of Moscow, though, people are
more cautious.
Tatyana tells me she doesn't like how Donald
Trump keeps changing what he says and does.
One minute he's giving you something, she says.
The next he's taking it.
Vladimir tells me he's still waiting for proof
that Trump will improve relations with Russia.
We've been promised things before, he says.
It's almost as if Russians cannot believe what
they're seeing, that it's too good to be
true.
An American president who says he wants better
relations with Russia.
That was interesting.
The public at large is now.
Yeah, heaven forbid we want, you know, decent
relations with somebody with 20,000 nuclear warheads.
This is against the entire globalist.
I mean, when you look at it on
the map, you really start to see what
the expansion of NATO was.
And, you know, you kind of understand that,
yeah, you know, the globalists on our side,
and when I say our US, EU, they
wanted to make sure that they captured everything
that could fall into a vacuum or that
could be sucked back into Russia.
And they do that by saying, well, Putin
wants that, which may be true.
I mean, you know, he may be true.
He clearly wants to do business with them.
Yeah.
And then Ukraine is just, it's like, it's
like the pearl.
It's like the, it's like the perfect little,
well, not little, huge piece of land that
they just can't allow him to influence.
And that was really the genesis of the
whole problem is when Poroshenko decided, you know,
he was the president of Ukraine, said, you
know, I think I'm going to do a
deal with Russia instead of with the EU.
That was the start of it all.
Yeah.
And that's where they brought in Newland and
John Brennan was over there.
The My Don thing, the whole thing.
I had to get it, had to get
everybody.
Donuts.
Were they donuts, cookies, or were they pretzels?
I can't really remember.
I don't remember.
So meanwhile, just that we're going to stay
in Europe for another couple of clips.
Yeah, sure.
Turkey.
There's a turkey mess going on that nobody's
done.
The mainstream media is not talking about this
whatsoever at all.
Turkey-ay.
How does the BBC World Service pronounce it?
Well, we'll find out, won't we?
In Turkey...
Oh no!
...students outside Istanbul University...
How is that?
That's a violation of standards.
I think that's not right.
It's the BBC.
They said Turkey.
That's incorrect.
The following report incorrectly identifies Turkey-ay as
Turkey.
In Turkey, students outside Istanbul University were pepper
sprayed by riot police as they protested against
the detention of one of President Recep Tayyip
Erdogan's biggest rivals, the mayor of Istanbul, Ekrem
İmamoğlu.
In a rare display of public anger, crowds
chanted anti-government slogans while the main opposition
called his arrest a coup against our next
president.
These locals in Istanbul voiced their outrage.
I think these are all political decisions, and
I'm sure that a large part of the
country thinks so.
There is no justice.
There is no law.
There is always a judiciary that only enforces
the decisions taken by the government.
There is no other explanation for this.
I'm furious.
That's all I have to say.
Our situation is not getting any better.
The reasons are already obvious, but of course
there must be a cover for this.
But at a news conference, Turkey's Justice Minister
Yilmaz Tunç defended the arrests.
I would like to underscore that the Republic
of Turkey is a state governed by the
rule of law.
Everyone is equal before the law.
No individual or group is granted special privileges.
The Turkish lira plummeted to its lowest level
following Mr İmamoğlu's detention, falling by almost 15
% against the dollar.
Well, Emre Temel from the BBC's Turkish service
joins us now.
Emre, Mr İmamoğlu and 100 politicians, journalists and
businessmen were detained.
What are they accused of?
The Istanbul Chief Public Prosecutor's Office described Ekrem
İmamoğlu as a suspected criminal organization leader.
He was accused of corruption in tender processes.
Prosecutors also accused Mr İmamoğlu of aiding the
outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party, PKK as well.
And Turkish Justice Minister Yilmaz Tunç said a
total of 106 individuals have been detained into
two investigations into terrorism and corruption.
The wildcard here is I think the Gülen
network, who of course lost their leader, Fethullah
Gülen.
He died what, last year, late last year?
Yeah.
I wonder if these people are part of
the network.
No, this whole thing is very suspicious and
we don't, we'll never have any clue as,
because the reporting is so mediocre.
They can't even get the name of the
country right.
How can we trust anything?
Turkey, eh ladies?
He added that investigations will remain confidential.
Mr İmamoğlu denies all the charges.
His wife Dilek İmamoğlu dismissed the accusations as
ridiculous and manufactured.
And the opposition says Mr İmamoğlu is being
targeted to stop him running against President Erdoğan
in the next presidential elections.
How much of a threat is he to
Mr Erdoğan?
Ekrem İmamoğlu is seen as the strongest rival
to the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in
a future election.
As President Erdoğan himself, Mr İmamoğlu seemed ready
to use Istanbul mayorship as the launchpad for
the ultimate prize presidency.
He's a very popular politician, won the mayoral
race twice in 2019 and was resoundingly reelected
last year.
And he's, Mr İmamoğlu is expected to be
named as main opposition Republican People Party's presidential
candidate in a primary vote on Sunday.
However, yesterday his university diploma was revoked.
This move was largely seen by the opposition
as an aim to eliminate him from the
Turkish politics because a college degree is a
constitutional requirement for a candidacy in Turkey.
And Mr İmamoğlu was preparing to appeal this
decision.
But what happened this morning left him in
an uncharted territory.
If he will be arrested, the government may
appoint a trustee to the Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality
to replace İmamoğlu.
And as it stands now, Ekrem İmamoğlu will
not be able to run in Turkey's next
presidential election.
I'm surprised that no one, I'm sorry.
I was going to say the giveaway that
this is a scam is the fact that
they took his diploma away.
The university was told that the guy got
a degree.
He needed a degree, I guess, to run
for office in Turkey.
Yeah.
I mean, he's had this degree.
It's like it felt like somebody at the
University of California called me and said, we're
revoking your bachelor's degree.
What?
How do you do that?
Let that be a warning to you trolls.
If you troll too hard, we're revoking your
no agenda PhD and maybe even your Commodore
ship.
Take it away.
Oh, man.
You'd expect a lot more reporting on this
from the media because it is a NATO
country that is in disarray right now.
Well, it's always kind of in disarray.
It's always kind of.
I'm actually surprised that I never heard this
from any other source, including NTD.
Nobody's covering this except the BBC's world service.
Yeah, well, they got to fill the airtime
somehow.
Now that there's a vacuum with the voice
of America being gone.
Oh, now everyone's going to switch to us
on long wave.
I was going to clip something was so
dumb.
The voice of America has 360 million listeners
in their audience.
I'm like, no, they don't.
President Trump is right.
Getting rid of that because they're propagandizing the
Americans with all that nonsense.
So I think we can't go around.
Yes.
Well, I don't know where you're headed, but
I do have one more kind of obscure
clip.
Sure.
Of information that's not being played anywhere else.
And that's followed by a couple of very
strange clips.
But this is the untold, the unreported South
Africa news.
There's another blurt that nobody picked up on.
I didn't hear this anymore.
You know about this.
Is this about the ambassador that we kicked
out?
No, no, no, not about the ambassador.
Oh, once again, President Trump, manga, making African
news great again.
Almost 70,000.
Manga, making African news great again.
Oh, manga, manga, manga.
Almost 70,000 South Africans have expressed interest
in resettling to the United States following an
executive order by President Donald Trump offering citizenship
to farmers from the country.
The South African Chamber of Commerce in the
USA says it's handed over the details of
those interested to the U.S. Embassy in
Pretoria.
From Johannesburg, here's our Africa correspondent, Mayani Jones.
Now, this is the first time that we're
getting an indication of the level of interest
in South Africa to Mr. Trump's offer to
resettle South African farmers to the U.S.
Now, for some context, on the 7th of
February, President Trump issued an executive order accusing
the South African government of discriminating against white
Africana farmers.
These are descendants of Dutch and French settlers
here in South Africa.
This is something that President Siruho Ramaphosa has
repeatedly denied.
Nonetheless, a month later, President Trump extended his
invitation to any South African farmer who felt
discriminated against and also offered them citizenship.
Following this, the South African Chamber of Commerce
in the U.S. says it launched a
platform on its website inviting people who were
interested in resettling to fill in a few
basic details.
We don't know the professions of these people,
so we don't know if they qualify for
resettlement, if they're farmers.
And this is just an expression of interest.
These are not people who've applied for resettlement
yet, but they say they're interested in this.
And according to Sekusa, around 67,000 people
filled in this form and have expressed an
interest in resettling to the United States.
Most of them were aged between 25 and
45, and the majority of them had dependents
that would be coming to the U.S.
That's a great idea.
I didn't know about that.
Nobody knows about it.
That's a good idea.
I mean, those guys know how to farm.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, and, you know, a lot of our
young people don't want to farm anymore.
And they just want to sell the farm.
Yeah, no, this is, again, not being, this
is unreported.
I'm stunned how the mainstream, well, I'm stunned
there's gambling going on.
Yeah, but they could use the, the M5M
could use that to say, well, you know,
Trump wants to bring in South Africans.
Yeah, whiteys.
Yeah, they bring in white.
He only likes white people.
Yes, yes, Nazis.
I don't understand.
Yeah, I agree with you.
It's a missed opportunity by the mainstream media.
Now, then there's this other story.
Well, if I can just say, the reason
why they're not doing it is they understand,
like we do, that Africa news is automatic
tune-out.
So, yeah, so that's going to be the
real tune-out though is this story.
Okay.
This is the, it's, it's, it's under Cape
Town.
Cape Town?
Yeah.
Cape Town.
Uh, so the South Africans have a, uh,
contingent of people that they sent to a
Antarctic site where they, they, they stay wound
up and then they shit.
They were mad, didn't they?
A fight break out or something?
No, a guy, there's one guy there that's
apparently gone nuts and he's a psycho and
they can't get this, they can't get him
out.
So this is a report from a South
African radio station and they brought in a
foreign, one of the ministers who, who does
nothing but make excuses for, no, we've got
it.
Got it.
We got it under control.
And the guy says, it's like totally full
of crap.
This went on for a long time.
I only have two short clips of it,
but I mean, you could, it just goes
on and on and on with this guy
apologizing for this whole situation, but I thought
it was amusing.
Here we go.
All right.
You're on Cape Talk.
My name is Dan Korda.
As I said, a few minutes ago, I'm
genuinely thrilled to be joined by minister Dion
George, who's the environment minister, more specifically of
the DFFE, the department of forestry, fisheries, and
the environment.
Dion George, thank you for joining us.
Your department is in the middle of a
rapidly exploding story that has developed in the
last few days.
We really caught a hold in the media
in literally this morning about SANE 5, our
Antarctica research station that South Africa is the
custodian of and manages, and about allegations that
one member of our research team down there
has been accused of physical assault, potentially even
sexual assault, that has, well, it depends on
which kind of statement and press release or
which journalist you read, but has potentially expressed
remorse, underwent further evaluation, but potentially also has
a sexual assault allegation outstanding.
We've also heard suggestions from the media that
members of the rest of our research team
felt unsafe and wanted to be evacuated, and
then they weren't.
Can you just clear up exactly what is
going on for all of us who are
swimming in too much journalism right now?
Yes, good afternoon.
Thanks for having me on this afternoon.
I think, yes, we must stick to the
facts, and also I think that we really
do need to avoid sensationalizing the situation.
There is, in fact, a situation that we
are dealing with very successfully.
What happened was one of the members of
the team at Antarctica had an altercation, verbal
altercation, with another member regarding a task that
needed to be done, and that did escalate,
and there was a physical assault.
Not serious injuries.
The doctor attended to them, and that was
okay.
Everything's good.
Nothing to worry about.
Nothing to see here.
Yeah.
Okay.
This guy who sounds like a kind of
a Mr. Peepers character continues.
What are they doing at that Antarctic base?
Are they looking for the flying saucers?
Are they looking for the ice wall where
the rest of the continent of the flat
earth is located?
During this period of time when it's the
worst of conditions, usually most of these bases
are abandoned, but they keep a team at
this one, and the South Africans keep a
team.
Are they running the earthquake machine?
What is happening?
What is happening down there?
That's never explained in the entire report.
When you mean physical assault, was it a
punch-up?
What was it?
Punch-up!
I do not know the whole detail of
it, but it was a physical altercation, and
there was no serious injuries, and that did
happen.
There was no sexual assault.
That is not correct.
Okay.
There was an allegation of sexual harassment against
the same individual, and what we've done is
we've immediately had our team of psychologists and
experts on the situation right at the very
outset, because obviously it's very harsh circumstances down
there, and the window has now closed for
returns, et cetera.
Sorry, can you just unpack that?
Yes, exactly, because some of our listeners have
already said, well, you know, the Cape Agulhas
only goes down at this time.
It's only in December.
It's a boat, but I know of people
who've been flown down.
I know that the weather changes.
Is there no way to get people out
who want to get out?
Because I imagine even if this has been
resolved, and even if there are psychologists and
doctors on the ground or online, there are
now potentially people in that research team who
feel very unsafe working in a small station,
in a small environment, in a small community
of people.
Working with our psychologists, it's very clear that
there is headway getting made.
Oh, that's a good story.
Headway getting made.
That's a story for a Netflix miniseries, limited
series.
Exactly what Mimi said.
By the way, if I may, just for
a moment, I think that the streamers are
making big, big mistakes.
You know, we've been trying to follow a
couple of shows, and well, first of all,
Roku is now testing autoplay ads on the
home screen.
Do you have a Roku?
You don't have a Roku, do you?
I do have a Roku.
I have a couple of Rokus, but I
don't use them because my smart LG TV,
which is recommended during the tips of the
day some time ago, has a bunch of
stuff built in, so I don't use it.
Yeah, but if you have a Roku box,
now all of a sudden you bring up
the home screen where you select your icon
for the streaming service of your choice, and
they got ads autoplaying with audio.
That's interesting, which brings me back.
Okay, the guy, okay, this is interesting.
I don't know if it's that interesting.
It's a little inside baseball.
Well, you're on the hook now.
It better be interesting.
Well, it probably won't be that interesting, but
the guy who is the CEO of Roku
I had lunch with once, and he was,
and the reason I had a chat with
him because he was the guy who started
Replay TV, which was the original competitor of
TiVo, and I went to the rollout of
Replay TV, and his whole modus operandi, his
whole idea of how you're going to make
money with Replay TV, which is just basically
a DVR.
Was skipping the ads.
Was, yeah, but his idea was throwing in
more ads in situations where you couldn't skip
them.
He really liked the idea of now you
have a captive audience.
Let's throw some ads at him that they
can't do anything about.
So it makes nothing but sense that he
would do this with Roku.
What's the guy's name again?
Because he's invited me to his backyard barbecue
a couple of years in a row.
The CEO of Roku?
Yeah, yeah.
What's his name?
I don't know what his name is.
He has a house in Austin.
And he's a really nice guy.
That's what people say.
I mean, he's like a really nice guy.
It never worked out.
It's like, hey, come by on Thursday.
Thanks for knowing what I do, dude.
And he would have Willie Nelson.
I think his house is probably a pretty
big place anyway.
But my general complaint, the streamers seem to
have a new strategy.
They are now releasing episodes weekly, where it
used to be you'd get the first three.
Then you get another batch.
In some cases, the whole thing.
You can kind of pace your own viewing
habit.
Right, which is what you want.
Yeah, but they're doing away with that.
And so basically, if you look at White
Lotus, which we watched season two, and now
it's season three.
So I will watch it.
Now they're turning it into an eight hour
movie where they don't have like, you know,
big cliffhangers after each episode.
It just kind of ends.
And the tension is just, it's tension throughout.
It's building up.
But then you have to wait a week.
I think it's a losing.
I know why they're doing it.
Because people would come in, get the deal
for, you know, one month, pay for one
month, cancel right away after they've binged the
series they want to see.
So they're trying to stretch people out over
at least two months or longer.
Or they're not one month free thing.
Yes, and you can't.
That's the idea.
Yeah, you can't binge.
I think it's a mistake in strategy.
And I'm not sure it's also this.
The episodes just go on and on and
on with no resolution.
You know, if you have an episode, you
need a resolution with some cliffhanger at the
end.
They don't have that.
Just like, we'll see you next week, sucker.
I don't think it's real.
I think it sounds like you have a
problem.
I don't know.
I find most of my watching has just
gone deteriorated completely because of, I mean, except
for a couple of shows that I like.
It all sucks.
I have like two, three shows maybe that
I'll watch over and over.
And I mean, I still find there is
some network stuff that is still nominally good.
I still think NCIS is a well-written
show that's compelling and well done.
Uh, other than that, the FBI stuff is
not that interesting.
They killed a couple of them, which brings
me to some clips.
I need to get into a different category
here.
You're just going on and on with your
clips.
I just gave you Cape Town.
This is the show.
I gave you Cape Town.
I get to do something now.
Cape Town was borderline, man.
Well, yeah, it was.
We need to talk about the Elon hate.
I got clips.
Okay.
Well, let me start off with a supercut
and it's long.
So you can, if you're sick of it,
let me know.
Saying on my phone, I don't know.
Some of you know this on the iPhone.
They've got that little stock app.
I added Tesla to it to give me
a little boost during the day.
225 and dropping.
Elon Musk, you didn't create USAID.
The United States Congress did for the American
people.
And just like Elon Musk did not create
USAID.
He doesn't have the power to destroy it.
And who's going to stop him?
We are.
We are witnessing a constitutional crisis.
We talked about Trump wanting to be a
dictator on day one.
And here we are.
This is what the beginning of dictatorship looks
like.
Today, it's USAID.
Tomorrow, it's our health care.
It's social security.
It's our livelihoods.
It's our freedoms.
So stand up for USAID today.
USAID today.
Stand up for USAID today.
The newspaper must stay around.
It's our health care.
It's social security.
It's our livelihoods.
It's our freedoms.
So stand up for USAID today.
USAID today so that we can stand up
for all of our freedoms in the days
ahead.
This is a constitutional crisis.
That we are in today.
Let's call it what it is.
The people get to decide how we defend
the United States of America.
The people get to decide how their taxpayer
money is spent.
Elon Musk does not get to decide.
We are here to save lives because that
is what AID does.
And no one elected Elon Musk to dismantle
it.
Elon Musk, where are you?
Bring your ass over here so you can
see.
Finally, Maxine Waters is back.
Who's here?
This is like a bank robber trying to
fire the cops and turn off the alarms
just before he strolls into the lobby.
That is what they are doing.
They are dismantling the federal government, which will
deny the American people the services and the
resources that allow them to help to raise
their families, have a secure economy and a
secure future for themselves.
I mean, it goes on and on and
on.
And keep playing.
You didn't.
You said I could stop.
Every time you hear Doge, the Department of
Government Efficiency, you just remember it is the
Department of Government Evil.
While we're sitting here, Donald Trump and Elon
Musk are recklessly and illegally dismantling the federal
government, shuttering federal agencies, firing federal workers, withholding
funds vital to the safety and well-being
of our communities and hacking our sensitive data
systems.
Now, we should in no way be cooperating
with House Republicans who want to shut down
the Department of Education and destroy Medicare and
Medicaid.
And we should not stand by as the
richest man on the planet gives himself and
his companies huge tax cuts while the American
people get absolutely nothing.
Doge staff to carry out this agenda across
all these agencies.
All right.
So I have four clips.
Then I'll let you go with your clips.
I just know I don't have anything that
tops that.
I want to mention something, though.
This idiot, Waltz, Tim, tampon, Tim, as they
call him.
He's gloating about the downturn in Tesla stock.
The pensioners in Minnesota.
Hold like 127 million shares or some crazy
amount.
Yeah, some outrageous number of shares.
And he's happy that they're losing their ass?
Are you kidding me?
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
But the attacks on Tesla are interesting because,
and if you just scroll through a timeline,
you'll see all of these, you know, these
Tesla's have, you know, 20 cameras or whatever
it is.
I know it's funny.
So when someone keys the car, then, you
know, you're on camera and then, you know,
they're they're busting people for this.
And, you know, and I'll get to what
I think this is in a minute.
But first, two quick clips from Anderson Cooper
360.
New Tesla safety concerns after another violent act
of vandalism against the company.
This was a targeted attack against a Tesla
facility.
The most recent happening Tuesday in Las Vegas.
Police say a person dressed in black shot
and set fire to several Tesla vehicles at
a repair facility.
The word resist was spray painted on the
building.
The FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force is now
conducting an investigation in order to identify the
suspect and a motive.
Violent acts like this are unacceptable regardless of
where they occur.
And specifically to those who might think that
something like this is justifiable or potentially even
admirable.
We want to let you know it's a
federal crime.
We will come after you.
We will find you and prosecute you to
the fullest extent of the law.
Justice Department officials announced just days ago that
24-year-old Daniel Clark Pounder has been
arrested in connection with a Molotov cocktail attack
on a Tesla charging station in South Carolina.
CNN has reached out to his attorney for
comment.
If convicted, he faces up to 20 years
in federal prison.
So this is so out of control.
And I would have to say the Democrat
representatives, they're the ones who are stoking this
up.
I mean, just listen to what they're saying.
You heard it in the supercut.
So they had to take action.
And there was something called the Tesla takedown
call, which we know is like, that's kind
of like the gay guys for Harris, white
dudes for Harris, Hollywood for Harris.
They're doing the Zoom calls again.
And so they bring on this very weak
lady, young lady who is the host of
the call.
And they bring in a bunch of actors
and people telling you what to do and
what not to do.
And this was great because they bring in
Alex Winter, who has a movie to promote.
Alex Winter is from Bill and Ted's Excellent
Adventure.
Okay.
Dude.
Hey, dude.
Hey, man.
I think they have another, like the third
movie in the series coming out.
And so they're bringing all these people in.
They bring on Alex Winter, an actor who
proceeds to read a script.
Alex Winter is an actor, director and writer
who has worked across film, television and theater.
As an actor, Winter recently co-starred in
the anticipated third installment in the Bill and
Ted franchise.
Please welcome Alex Winter.
How's it going?
Thanks so much, Annie.
It's really great to have you here.
I like that he says it's very great
to have you here, even though that was
her line.
I'm not quite sure where that went wrong
in the script, but that was incorrect.
Alex Winter.
How's it going?
Thanks so much, Annie.
It's really great to have you here.
And great to see everybody on this thing.
Like most of the world, I was appalled
by Elon Musk's Nazi salute, which kicked off
his all-out assault on our government.
And I wasn't surprised to see people protesting
him soon after that.
There was a protest in early February at
a Tesla store that caught my eye because
only one person ticketing attracted a huge group
of bystanders who were also being adversely affected
by Musk and his criminal actions would doge.
Then more protests sprouted up in mid-February
and I decided to protest at a Tesla
store in my town.
And I expected it to just be me
and maybe one other person.
But when I got there with my little
sign, there were dozens of protesters.
And within an hour, there were close to
a hundred.
I'm a big believer in non-violent protests
as protected by the First Amendment.
It's a constitutional right and it's foundational to
a working democracy.
And it's been wild to see the tens
of thousands of citizens around the world who
are now organizing these grassroots, non-violent Tesla
takedown protests.
The grassroots, non-violent.
They're like parties.
Hold on a second.
He's not a very good actor.
No.
Is he actually looking down and reading it?
He's reading off his screen.
You can see it.
Oh, he's reading.
Okay.
Because it just sounds...
I mean, he's not a good prompter reader
either.
I mean, this doesn't sound natural in the
least.
It sounds terrible.
But the fact that he lent himself for
this and what they're trying to do is
they're trying to calm it down because they
know it's out of control.
They know they're complicit.
And when I say they...
So that's why he's emphasizing non-violent.
Exactly.
It's grassroots too.
Grassroots, non-violent.
Mostly peaceful protests.
And it's been wild to see the tens
of thousands of citizens around the world who
are now organizing these grassroots, non-violent Tesla
takedown protests.
They're like parties with dancing and music.
One had a mariachi band.
We had marching bands.
Another one had Joan Baez playing her guitar
in Palo Alto.
It was pretty rad.
Oh, it's just a party.
There's mariachi bands.
There's no one keying Teslas.
There's no one firebombing Teslas.
There's no Molotov cocktails.
But you know, Elon Musk is a Nazi.
But I think the Tesla takedown matters for
several key reasons.
One is that it gives many people a
means to get out in peaceful protests to
make their voices heard.
Very important right now.
And it also matters because it helps people
to learn the facts about the reckless and
deadly activities of Musk and Doge that are
impacting people directly.
But as far as actually taking Tesla down,
I don't think it's actually on any of
the protesters.
Elon Musk only has himself to blame for
tanking this company.
Tesla was permanently tarnished the moment Musk gave
that Nazi salute and followed it with his
brutal attack on the lives of ordinary citizens.
It's all on Elon.
There is no conspiracy.
There is no well-funded cabal.
Yes, there is.
It's just Elon Musk who has taken Tesla
down.
Why would you even say there's no well
-funded cabal when you're literally reading the script
given to you at least a funded cabal?
Come on.
It's all on Elon.
There is no conspiracy.
There is no well-funded cabal.
It's just Elon Musk who has taken Tesla
down.
And meanwhile, the protests will continue to grow.
They won't stop until Musk is stopped.
That means more people in the streets, more
people learning the facts about his attack on
our democracy, more people who aren't afraid of
standing up to corruption and bullies.
There are millions and millions of us.
And when we all stand together in solidarity,
that's when we win.
What this is, as far as I can
take, is a globalist takedown action against American
manufacturing.
I think the truly wealthy, many of them
Democrats, probably more of them Democrat than Republican,
they just don't want American manufacturing.
And okay, Elon's an easy target.
You know me, I'm not a fan of
Elon Musk.
No, that's true.
You're actually pretty skeptical about Elon Musk in
general.
But he is manufacturing stuff.
He is making cars here as well.
Yes, in China.
He is building rockets here.
Yeah, but he's not bringing the Chinese cars
here.
No, no, that's true.
That's true.
He's making the cars he sells here are
made here.
So let's check in with our favorite protege,
Kara Swisher.
Let's hear how she feels about Elon Musk.
Well, it's very typical.
This is how he conducts himself all the
time.
He's always in a state of high drama,
high agitation.
He did this when Tesla was in big
trouble.
He had to sleep on the floor of
the factory, even though there was a hotel
next door because it was dramatic.
He thinks he's the center of the universe,
which is really strange.
He's very into video games.
And so I think he thinks he's sort
of ready player one.
He thinks nothing can happen without his existence.
He often used to say, if Tesla failed,
the human race was doomed to me on
a number of occasions, things like that.
So, you know, it's massive narcissism with a
lot of talent and a lot of PR
and a lot of drama.
And that's what you're seeing right now.
The word he likes to use is hardcore,
which is just hustle porn.
It's just a different way.
They do this in Silicon Valley.
They sleep under their desks.
They think this is an accomplishment to show
how committed they are.
It just means they're exhausted.
You know, this is what he does.
He's up all night.
And so, you know, I work on weekends.
That's my superpower.
Caitlin, I know you work on weekends and
so do I.
I don't think we consider it a superpower.
And, you know, he stuff like that.
He wants and he also likes to criticize
people relentlessly about how lazy they are, how
stupid.
And you saw that in the New York
Times piece, the same thing.
So this was actually quite a mild piece
by Kara Swisher.
But contrast that with Kara Swisher talking about
Elon Musk before he bought Twitter, which, of
course, was the Democrat messaging machine.
And so I think he gets annoyed when,
you know, people don't see the grand vision
of what he's doing.
And what he's doing is incredibly hard.
What he's executed on has been so impressive,
you know, in terms of the car and
the space, this SpaceX, just the rocket stuff
is really astonishing achievements at the same time.
And he does have to build a company.
But, you know, it's a really interesting situation.
You know, I think the suggestions that he's
crazy because he goes on Twitter and he
seems to be playful on Twitter.
I'm not sure people, I think people are
reading too much into it as candy company
or various things he's doing.
He's just messing with people.
He's like that.
Having had a number of encounters with him
and small tips, and I've had a number
of them, he's just like that.
And I appreciate it.
I have to say, compared to a lot
of people who are polite to your face
and not behind your back, he's pretty much,
you know, what you see is what you
get.
And this is what you get when you
have someone this creative, this innovative, and this
certain of his vision.
Oh my, oh my, Kara.
I see what you were doing to try
to move my stuff out of the way.
You had this old clip.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was a good one.
Who found that for you?
That one, I came across that.
The what, the old clip or the new
clip?
The second one.
Oh, that was on Twitter.
That was on X.
Oh, Musk probably dug it up.
Of course, of course he did.
Now, it's so out of hand that Musk
went on Hannity, friendly fire, to go say,
what is going on here?
Why?
Why do I see people like, I woke
up this morning and saw that Teslas were
put ablaze in one of your dealerships in
Vegas.
I've seen this happen all over the country.
Bullets are being fired.
Charging stations are put ablaze.
Teslas are being put ablaze.
Ablaze, I tell you.
You've experienced assassination, threats of assassination for you
and your family.
What have you done that warrants this?
Because I see nothing that you have done
except help our country.
Yeah, I mean, it's really come as quite
a shock to me that there is this
level of really hatred and violence from the
left.
I always thought the left, the Democrats were
supposed to be the party of empathy, the
party of caring.
And yet, they're burning down cars.
They're firebombing dealerships.
They're firing bullets into dealerships.
They're smashing up Teslas.
Tesla is a peaceful company.
We've never done anything awful.
I've never done anything awful.
I've only done productive things.
So I think we just have a deranged,
there's some kind of mental illness thing going
on here because this doesn't make any sense.
That's a great line.
I think there's some kind of...
Really?
Gambling?
I think there's a mental illness thing going
on here.
There's some kind of mental illness thing going
on here because this doesn't make any sense.
I think there are larger forces at work
as well.
I mean, I don't know who's funding it
and who's coordinating it because this is crazy.
I've never seen anything like this.
There's a second part to this that can
be done.
You actually tweeted out, and I'll put it
on the screen, the level of violence is
insane.
It is deeply wrong.
Tesla just makes electric cars and has done
nothing to deserve these evil attacks.
You just rescued two astronauts that have been
in space for 286 days.
They were only supposed to be there eight.
You helped the people in North Carolina, Tennessee,
California.
You have, I think, the most creative and
innovative car on the market.
You created Starlink for communications that's used by
hundreds of countries.
You're working on helping the blind see and
all of these other things.
Is it really come down to the basic,
you're aligned with President Donald Trump, who also
is a friend of mine, and that you
have identified well over $100 billion in waste,
fraud, abuse that our federal government never should
have been spending?
Is that what it comes down to?
Yeah, it turns out when you take away
people's, the money they're receiving, fraudulently, they get
very upset.
And they basically want to kill me because
I'm stopping their fraud.
And they want to hurt Tesla because we're
stopping this terrible waste and corruption in the
government.
And, well, I guess they're bad people.
Bad people will do bad things.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, it's obviously coordinated and we know who
it's coordinated by.
And it's the same people who were calling
for violence against Donald Trump before he was
president, Maxine Waters, all these people just yelling
and yelling and yelling.
And it's gotten, I think that the Tesla
takedown call is their move to try and
tamp it down a little bit.
Yeah, that's absolutely correct.
Someone's going to get hurt.
You're absolutely right.
Wow, wow, this is a moment, ladies and
gentlemen, mark the time.
But what's interesting is this idea, this subtext
of the possibility that the globalists do not
really want the United States to reestablish itself
as a manufacturing center.
I'm convinced of it because that's exactly what
President Trump is doing.
That's what the tariffs are about.
That's what everything is about.
They want to keep it in China, Taiwan.
When I was a kid.
Ah, here we go.
Nice.
Well, I think I have, let me see.
I think I have a, let me see.
Yes, here we go.
When you were a kid, we're in the
rocking chair.
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah.
So I was at Berkeley, I was studying
at the business library and I was reading
very, this was like 50 years ago.
I'm reading in there, I'm reading documents about
how the country, how America was, this was
back 50 years ago.
How would they, the whole idea is to
turn America into a service economy.
And customers, customers for the rest of the
world.
Yeah.
And we're going to be a service economy
and our manufacturing was designed 50 years ago
to start going away.
So we would be bringing stuff in from
here and there and you put it together
here.
Maybe you do whatever you do, but the
whole country would be a service economy because
the globalists see everything, they don't see it
as you have, they don't see any reason
in a globalist sense that we should be
building anything.
Why?
You just be a service economy.
And if the world was a perfect place,
yeah, that'd be great.
If no one was ever going to attack
you.
Yeah.
Or try to steal your stuff.
Well, I mean, we can't, you can't create
an economy that's just based upon me cooking
for you, you shining my shoes, that guy
washing my car.
I mean, eventually the money has just been
flowing.
That's the whole Trump doctrine.
That's what the tariffs are about.
And believe me, I think he's really going
to put them on and he'll put them
on for good or until people come to
their senses.
I think I have a clip about that.
Where is it?
Yeah, I think this is it.
This is from Candinavia, CBC.
And we are going to make the country
more affordable for working Americans.
The US Trade Secretary is offering new insight
into the Trump administration's tariff plan.
During an interview airing on Fox News, Scott
Besant offered a roadmap of what to expect
starting next month.
What's going to happen on April 2nd, each
country will receive a number that we believe
represents their tariffs.
So for some countries, it could be quite
low.
For some countries, it could be quite high.
A senior Canadian government source says it is
believed the number will be the new tariff
rate.
Besant said it will be determined on how
fair the Trump administration views the trading relationship
and take into consideration tariffs imposed on US
goods and other trade-related barriers.
He says it will be the starting point
for a negotiation.
If you will stop this, we will not
put up the tariff wall.
If you do, then we will put up
the tariff wall to protect our economy, protect
our workers, and protect our industry.
This appears to be at odds with some
of what the president has said before.
Just yesterday, Donald Trump seemed to warn that
tariffs would be imposed on April 2nd.
April 2nd is liberation day for our country
because we're going to finally be taking in
money.
In a statement to CBC News, the White
House cautioned...
How does that contradict?
I don't understand what she just said there.
How does that contradict?
What is the contradiction?
We'll back it up more carefully.
We will not put up the tariff wall.
If you do, then we will put up
the tariff wall to protect our economy, protect
our workers, and protect our industry.
This appears to be at odds with some
of what the president has said before.
Just yesterday, Donald Trump seemed to warn that
tariffs would be imposed on April 2nd.
April 2nd is liberation day for...
How is that different from what Besson said?
I think what she's implying is that Trump
sounds firm with the April 2nd stuff, and
he sounded like it may or may not
happen.
Well...
That's all I can imagine.
Yeah, okay.
April 2nd is liberation day for our country
because we're going to finally be taking in
money.
In a statement to CBC News, the White
House cautioned that details have not yet been
finalized, saying the reciprocal tariff plan has yet
to be unveiled by President Trump, but adding
that all members of his team are aligned
on this policy.
And Besson is an interesting guy.
Besides being openly gay and married, never mentioned
by the M5M because, you know, that would
kill the narrative.
They never mentioned, they don't talk about Tammy
Bruce's gay.
No, can't do that.
She's a spokesperson for the Defense Department, I
think, or Pentagon or one of them.
Besides that, he also is the guy who
worked with the Soros hedge fund when they
broke the Bank of England and shorted the
pound.
Oh, that's right, yes.
This is the guy who knows how to
do it.
He's a sharp operator.
Besson also suggested there will be opportunities for
countries to escape tariffs.
I'm optimistic that April 2nd, some of the
tariffs may not have to go on because
a deal is pre-negotiated or that once
countries receive their reciprocal tariff number, that right
after that, they will come to us and
want to negotiate it down.
It has been an erratic start to the
Trump presidency when it comes to trade policy.
Blanket 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico
were threatened, delayed, imposed, and then paused with
some exceptions, followed by 25% tariffs on
all steel and aluminum imports.
Trump has made it no secret he does
not view the Canada-U.S. trading relationship
as fair.
Canada is absolutely one of the worst.
He's complained about protections for Canadian dairy, made
false accusations about Canadian banking rules, exaggerated and
complained about the trade deficit.
The list goes on and on.
While the White House did not provide any
detail about a number or tariff rate for
Canada, it is a frequent target of Trump's
anger.
And Canada is making some weird moves, like
canceling part of the order for the F
-35.
This is very dumb.
The F-35 has long been a political
football in Canada, and it seems destined to
be one again.
The defense minister raised the issue with me.
The issue, says Prime Minister Mark Carney, is
whether the F-35 is the right warplane
for Canada.
The fact is that under the contract, as
you may know, after a certain number of
purchases, then we have options on subsequent aircrafts.
Canada has already paid for its first tranche
of 16 F-35s to be delivered in
the next few years.
It planned to buy 88 in total from
defense contractor Lockheed Martin for $19 billion.
But that could change.
Defense Minister Bill Blair.
The prime minister has asked me to go
and examine those things and have discussions with
other sources, particularly where there may be opportunities
to assemble those fighter jets in Canada to
properly support them and maintain them in Canada.
That is a very obvious reference to the
company that placed second in Canada's fighter jet
competition, Saab, the Swedish defense giant with its
Gripen E fighter jet, which it offered to
assemble in Canada.
Reducing the number of F-35s bought from
the U.S., as much as it may
feel good politically and play well with an
angry public, would not be easy.
Dude, what are they doing?
That, I don't, I don't think you can't
just, you know, go ahead and, oh, we'll
change this out.
I mean, you'll have, well, they're going to
have Saab jets now.
That means that, well, in fact, you'll have
to supply change.
You need different runways.
This is the wrong weapon system to reconsider.
Retired General Tom Lawson is the country's former
top military commander and a former consultant for
Lockheed Martin.
He says operating two types of fighters is
something the military doesn't want to do.
It's costly, two training regims, two supply chains
and separate hangars.
Lawson also warns any further delays risk wearing
out the current CF-18s.
There's a very real scenario where everything gets
delayed to the point where there are no
fighters flying in Canada for a period of
time.
And that would be a further blow to
Canada's struggling air force.
New documents obtained by CBC News show only
40% of RCAF aircraft are serviceable and
ready to fly and fight.
We don't have war stocks to sustain a
fight.
Critics have suggested the F-35 should be
dropped because it's vulnerable to U.S. interference.
Former test pilot, retired Lieutenant Colonel Billy Flynn
says the same could be said for all
U.S. military software and weapons supply chains.
There is nothing unique about the vulnerability of
the F-35.
Reducing Canada's F-35 purchase could also affect
aerospace firms in this country.
To date, 3.5 billion dollars of Canadian
parts have gone into the program.
Contracts that could be vulnerable depending on the
direction the political wind is blowing.
So I look at the map of Canada
and the provinces are very interesting, particularly the
ones that connect to the United States border.
And there's moves being made.
This is a great guy.
In Alberta, which now does I think that
borders on Washington state.
Uh, Alberta, pretty.
I think mostly B.C. is Washington state
and Alberta is probably over Montana, Idaho, maybe
a touch of Washington.
Let me just let me just see real
quick.
No, you're right.
You're right.
The border is on Montana.
But you know, it's connected to us and
there's there's moves being made.
What we're proposing to do first and foremost
is to free Alberta from governance by idiots
in Ontario and Quebec.
So I'm involved.
I've been involved with an organization called the
Alberta Prosperity Project for a number of years.
Interestingly, we're now up to over 60,000
members, which is more members than the United
Conservative Party of Alberta at this point.
We're a number of the organization's goal is
to educate Albertans on the benefits of independence,
free of the structural problems caused by Canadian
federalism, which has effectively turned Alberta and Albertans
into colonized citizens of, you know, into a
colony of Quebec and Ontario, which we're all
sorely fed up with.
So, you know, myself and a number of
other Albertans have decided that enough is enough.
We're tired of being governed by complete idiots.
And we're at a unique point in history
with the newly elected Trump administration to, you
know, send a delegation to Washington to discuss
with the Trump administration their support for Alberta
independence and to gauge their, you know, to
gauge the level of support in the Trump
administration for an independent Alberta free of Canada,
to gauge their support for Alberta either becoming
a U.S. territory or a U.S.
state.
Yeah, baby.
We'd have a big foam finger sticking up
into Canada.
Alberta, where all the wealth is.
Right.
Alberta is the key to the whole country
in so far as, you know, balancing the
budget because all the energy they have there.
Yeah, the oil, right?
Yeah, oil, shale, shale oil and oil and
everything else.
A lot of stuff.
I bet there's interest.
Well, that ain't got none of this.
It's pretty funny.
Yeah, that's all I can say.
Yeah, well, it definitely caused a stir.
He has 60,000 members.
That's that's not bad.
I thought that was interesting.
Oh, well, you got me on that one.
You're up.
OK, well, let's just take a look at
the policing and the Chinese police in the
United States and the big scandal that's taking
place.
That's still going on.
That started up again because now they're going
to pass some laws.
Some the Congress is getting involved.
A group of Republican lawmakers in the House
have introduced a bill to combat China's efforts
to establish secretive police stations on American soil.
Congresswoman Ashley Hinson, who sits on the House
Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party, introduced
the expel illegal Chinese Police Act of twenty
twenty five last week.
The committee's chairman, Congressman John Molinar, co-led
the bill.
Joining us now to discuss these latest efforts
to combat the CCP's operations in the U
.S. is Jimmy Quinn, national security correspondent at
the National Review.
Jimmy, thank you so much for joining us.
Good to have you with us again.
Now, first, what are these secretive Chinese police
stations?
What are they doing on U.S. soil?
What these Chinese police stations are doing is
they are involved in repression.
They're involved in political outreach to U.S.
politicians.
It's a violation of America's sovereignty.
What they are, in short, are these offices
that are set up within other legitimate seeming
community organizations that already exist in the United
States.
These might be groups for, you know, just
ordinary people in the Chinese diaspora who want
to get together with other people from their
hometown.
Many of them have been co-opted, actually,
by the PRC and the Chinese Communist Party.
And these people are forced to set up
a police station.
And, you know, the claim by the Chinese
government is that they're just processing paperwork, helping
people with their driver's licenses.
But the thing to know is that these
are not approved by the U.S. government.
These are illegal law enforcement outposts in our
country, in this case, in the middle of
Manhattan.
It's something that everyone should be aware of.
So this one was shut down.
There might be two more in the country,
according to some research out there.
But it's a very scary situation.
There are only two.
Only two left.
That's what he says, but who knows.
But the question comes to mind every time
I hear this kind of story.
And this TV show, it's on CBS, is
FBI International.
Isn't that an oxymoron?
What's the FBI doing?
And the show's about various FBI offices around
the world.
How's that different than this?
Or what about the spy stations, Berlin Station,
or these places that the CIA runs that
are in other countries?
How's that different?
You know, just there's one page that was
removed from the CIA JFK file drop.
And it is the page about the CIA's
involvement in non-governmental organizations.
It's now gone.
It's gone from the website.
About how official cover is necessary to enable
our officers to work overseas in often hostile
and volatile environments.
That's why CIA uses State Department cover companies.
You know, yeah, we do this.
But do these Chinese police, do they wear
uniforms and have billy clubs?
And hats and helmets?
I mean, it just doesn't make a...
Just kind of, the story just baffles me
somewhat because of the fact that we do
this everywhere.
Yeah.
And now the Chinese, you know, they're accused
of, well, the problem with this, the Chinese
police, they look for Chinese that are over
here and then they go over to find,
you're Chinese, you should be promoting China or
something.
Just beyond me.
I guess we, maybe we don't do that.
I'm not sure.
Well, we don't use restaurants as cover, that's
for sure.
Yeah.
This is good food involved.
Okay.
Part two.
And to your point, Congressman John Muellenaar saying,
quote, these stations represent a direct threat to
our national security and undermine the rule of
law in the United States.
What would this legislation do in terms of
combating this?
So this bill goes after the agencies and
the officials within the People's Republic of China
and the Chinese Communist Party who are involved
in this program, both here and in China.
It would impose full blocking sanctions on certain
officials who are involved in running the police
station.
Typically, it's the Ministry of Public Security.
But as we learned through the federal indictment
of the two men who operated the station
in Manhattan, the Chinese consulate is involved as
well here in New York.
So Chinese diplomatic outposts are involved.
So there's this kind of alphabet soup of
different PRC security agencies, diplomatic arms that play
a role in operating the police stations.
So what these lawmakers are trying to do
is they're trying to go directly after the
people who run this operation and make sure
they can't enter the U.S., they can't
access assets that they might have here or
conduct transactions with U.S. individuals.
So that's very important.
And there's also a component of the bill
which bans people who are found to be
operating these stations from setting foot in the
United States.
You have these visa bans as well.
You know, I think the use of the
term police station, that sounds propagandistic to me.
I mean, there are no, actually, it's not
like there's a shield on the door and
they've got a front desk and they've got
a jail.
I mean, this is conjuring up images.
The sergeant at the front desk.
Yeah, and this is NTD, of course, who
hate the Chinese Communist Party.
But they're not the only ones that use
the term.
No, I mean, I'm saying the term is
being used purposefully to conjure up images that
may be.
Yeah, like there's an alien police station.
Yeah, now you're thinking UFO.
In your city, that is the Chinese, the
Communist Chinese Party is running this police station
in San Francisco.
I mean, you could say a safe house
for spies.
And there's all kinds of different ways you
could describe it.
But police station is very specific.
Yeah, I agree 100% with you.
Oh, my God, that's two in a show.
Hello, is this?
I do it all the time.
I'm always, yeah, this shows we can be
kind of like K-Part and that other
guy, Brooks and K-Part.
What, are you calling me K-Part?
You're the K-Part.
I'll be Brooks.
I'm not going to be K-Part.
No, no.
Now, zooming out a bit, we hear a
lot of talk about the long arm of
the CCP where Chinese dissidents, human rights activists
or members of faith groups and ethnic minorities
like say the Uyghurs, Tibetans, Falun Gong are
targeted even on US soil.
Talk to us about that.
How is the CCP effectively operating on US
soil?
What your viewers need to know is that
there's this thing called the United Front.
It's a concept that the party has run
throughout its history, stretching back basically to its
founding.
We're talking about the early, you know, 20th
century through the 1930s.
And it's a strategy that the party has
used to basically co-opt people who aren't
officially party members to get them to do
the party's bidding.
And it just tries to convene people.
It operates through them.
It's kind of the lifeblood of the entire
system where people will, different agencies within the
CCP, and within the PRC, will turn to
United Front actors and they'll ask them to
do things like hunt down a dissident as
we saw in this case where the defendants
in the Chinese police station indictment are alleged
to have worked with the Ministry of Public
Security to find dissidents on US soil.
So the United Front is here.
It's dangerous and it's very influential, unfortunately.
And it's kind of the connective tissue for
all of these malign, long-arm repression activities.
Very concerning, indeed.
Jimmy Quinn, thank you so much for joining
us.
How's it different than a spy?
Very concerning, indeed.
Well, this brings me to something I was
hoping would come up.
We love listening to how people speak in
the mainstream and NTD is mainstream of sorts.
We have discovered the term apophora, which is
when someone says why and then answers the
question.
There's another one that I bumped up against,
which is the explanation for terms like dictator,
ally.
That's a favorite one right now.
Trump's ally.
Police station is actually another one.
And it's called emotive conjugation.
And I had not heard of this term,
but it's real simple when it's explained.
And I found a clip of Eric Weinstein
explaining this concept, which was developed by Russell
Bertrand.
You're looking for emotive conjugation or Russell conjugation.
Turns out Bertrand Russell had been here earlier.
And in 1948, he was on the BBC
and he said, let's look at the construction.
I am firm.
You are obstinate.
He, she, or it is a pigheaded fool.
And that was just a moment where I
said, oh my gosh, I don't realize that
I have been given no extra information about
the three conjugations that he's gone through.
And yet I feel differently.
I like the fact that somebody is firm
and steadfast, and I dislike the fact that
somebody is pigheaded.
And then I realized that this could actually
be weaponized and as part of an arms
race, that maybe the newspapers were in fact
conjugating President Strongman dictator.
And so I remembered this very strange phrase
from years past.
Panamanian Strongman, Manuel Noriega.
And I thought who would come up with
a construction that awkward and always invariant.
And then everyone- And then everyone uses
it.
Exactly.
Hawkish, he's hawkish.
And so what I came to understand is
that the big boys don't play around with
faking the facts.
What they realized is that we have multiple
opinions on everything.
But our emotional state selects which opinion.
And the person who figured this out is
Frank Luntz.
And Frank Luntz is a Republican pollster.
There's a video of him where he asks
people, what do you think about undocumented workers?
Oh, they're doing a great job and we
have to recognize their contribution.
Well, do you support illegal aliens?
No, no, no, they should be deported.
Yeah.
In an instant.
And then you can see that the mind
doesn't see itself.
And so we are both for and against
everything.
I love this.
Of course, we've seen it.
We call it out, but I never knew
it had a term.
Yeah, it's an awkward term.
It's not a good term.
As a term, it sucks.
Yeah.
But like newcomers, there's another one we've identified.
Yeah, newcomers.
I'd like to figure out where the what
the usage of the false accusation or false,
the thing they always keep using with Trump.
False equivalence?
No, no, not false equivalence.
Without evidence?
No, no.
I'm talking about when they say Trump falsely
claims that the election was rigged.
Falsely claimed.
He claims that the election was rigged.
He doesn't falsely claim it, but they say
falsely claimed.
Uh-huh.
That construction.
Where does that fit into the scheme of
things?
And I see it all the time with
Trump.
They're always throwing a crazy little phrase in
here and there.
I think the strongman example is a good
one.
Yeah, strongman, president, dictator.
All those terms.
But we just need to be able...
I mean, we identify them.
We don't categorize them.
We just identify them as we do.
Exactly, exactly.
I'd like to lighten the mood a bit.
Talk.
TikTok.
Yeah, I'm ready.
Wow, you actually...
Oh, this is the thanks I get for
saying you were right.
Correct, correct.
How about that?
You are right, yes.
These things always pay off.
They do.
It's a big payoff for you.
Big payday.
You get to do your trans talk clips.
Well, let's start with trans women in sports
being okay.
Oh, hold on a second.
Where is this?
Talk.
Oh, talk.
Yes.
If your daughter doesn't want to compete against
trans women in sports, maybe your daughter just
shouldn't play sports.
Ever thought about that?
Maybe she just doesn't have that competitive spirit.
Maybe she's just mediocre.
Maybe she's not that good.
Because you know what?
There are cis women that beat out the
boys every single freaking day.
So if your daughter is making all of
these excuses because she thinks that a trans
woman has biological advantages over her, which is
probably brainwashing that you cause.
If she's complaining about the biological advantages that
trans women have, she's going to complain about
the biological advantages that cis women have, okay?
What if there's a cis girl on her
team that's six feet tall?
Is she going to complain?
What if there's a cis girl on her
team that has extra large feet and so
has great balance?
Is she going to complain?
What if there's a cis girl who has
extra long arms?
Is she going to complain?
She's going to complain about every damn thing,
okay?
So maybe it's time to hang it up,
okay?
Accept the mediocrity and go on to play
piano or something like that, okay?
Okay.
Well, after this she went outside and keyed
a Tesla, tell me.
She went right away.
Yes, exactly.
That's what she did.
I'm a little concerned.
It seems your TikTok algorithm is intersecting with
mine because I've seen these clips.
Uh-oh.
Well, here's the trans person.
This is, I actually have two more.
This is the trans woman leaving.
This is a common one we're starting to
hear more and more of.
I'm leaving the country and I could use
a little help.
As you might imagine, being a trans woman,
I'm not super excited about the direction this
country is headed.
I live in an area that is still
relatively safe for trans people, but I'd rather
not be here if and when that stops
being the case.
So I'm leaving by the end of the
year with my fiancee to live in a
place that has more constitutional protections for people
like me.
However, moving is expensive generally, let alone moving
to a whole ass other country.
Oh, was there a call for a GoFundMe
on this particular talk clip?
Since my TikToks tend to come off of
Twitter, they don't have the connections.
Because a lot of the gay men who
are worried about their rights, they're moving to
Spain.
The thing is, when you want to move
to another country, you're going to learn something
very interesting.
You can't just show up and say, I
want to live here.
There's all kinds of requirements.
You can't just say, oh, I want to
be a citizen here.
No, no.
The EU, no.
You can't just show, well, I mean, if
you walk across the border from some, you
know, like from Morocco maybe, or from Algiers
or whatever.
But no, you can't just go to the
UK, for instance.
Can't the UK be like, okay, do you
have work?
Do you have a sponsor?
These people are going to find that it's
not as simple as that.
Then we have the other extreme of these
clips, and this was the trans mom of
a, or no, a gay mom of a
trans kid or something.
I don't know.
It's hard to say, but in Deerfield, Illinois,
there's this big brouhaha over this boy who's
determined that he's a girl, and he shows
up in the women's locker room and got
his dick hanging out, and the girls don't
like that.
And so there's been a big fuss made
by the moms.
And then the school locked the girls in
there, so you have to change in front
of this kid.
No, no.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
The school did that?
Yeah.
And now there's all kinds of lawsuits going
on.
We have lost our ever-loving mothers.
But here's what you're dealing with.
This is the Deerfield clip, and this is
the woman who comes out, and she just
lays it on the line how good it
is to protect this trans girl.
Tina Nelson, she, her pronouns, community member and
part of the LGBTQ community.
Thank you for prioritizing the safety of the
student that's been targeted by a organization that
weaponizes religion to push the white supremacist agenda
of their cis white husbands.
Church people.
Excuse me.
This is, it's- I have the mic.
Let's be respectful.
Please be respectful of each other's times.
Targeting a middle school student because of your
white god.
Yeah.
Excuse me.
Can we pause for a second?
This is a time for us to listen,
to hear your viewpoint, and we want to
hear that.
Okay.
So, thank you.
Yes.
So, children that are raised by those who
hate, vilify, and fearmonger will hate, vilify, and
fearmonger their peers.
So, education is super important.
Sex education is super important.
And this is just a kid.
And it's, I'm just, I'm really grateful to
see how full this room is of support
for this kid instead of the petty women
that target him.
I'm glad you gave the backstory because I
wouldn't have understood it.
And by the way, what is cis white?
Your cis white husbands.
Yes.
And your white god.
And she also makes the point, she said
she makes the point that these women aren't,
they don't think for themselves as their cis
white husbands that think for them.
That's the only reason it's going on.
Any of this is going on because of
the cis white husbands that tell these dumb
women what to do and how to think.
This woman, and if you look at her,
she's all tatted up and she's got piercings
and she's got some, there's some creepy kid
behind her that looks like a goth trans
of some sort.
And it's just, it was just cringe, cringey.
And there's another, it's a term I don't
like.
Yeah, that is kind of a term I
wouldn't expect from you, cringey.
Well, you know what it is.
It's TikTok itself.
That is the issue.
That is what is creating, here's another term,
brain rot.
Katie Page Rosenberg, a freshman at the University
of North Carolina Asheville.
Two successes, two failures.
Recently realized what too much scrolling was doing
to her.
How many hours were you spending on your
phone?
Oh God, probably like nine.
I was just kind of constantly on it.
You may have heard stories like hers before.
I wasn't able to focus because I would
have to take out my phone every couple
of minutes.
But now you can actually see the science
behind it.
Smartphones have wide reaching changes all over the
brain and specifically it grows here and it
shrinks there.
Psychiatrist Brent Nelson is applying this new science
at Newport Healthcare, which has mental health treatment
centers for teens across the country.
This is a brain that's addicted to a
smartphone.
These are MRI images from a recent study
in Korea.
All the red indicates increases in brain activity,
the effects of smartphone addiction.
Do you want your brain to be this
colorful?
You don't.
Why?
Well, because this is showing where the brain
is working extra hard compared to a non
-addicted brain when asked to do actually a
pretty simple task.
Yeah, I love, I'm really sad at this
point that I pissed off the brain scientist
from Austin.
Because this is the kind of stuff he
would be doing.
Remember that?
Oh yeah, I totally remember it.
That's too bad.
You were a bad boy.
Yes, I was supporting Trump without admitting I
was a Republican.
You never have been a Republican.
No, but that was his wife.
She got real mad at me.
That's what happened.
All right, second part to this.
Addicted smartphone users' brains were so colorful, so
active, it made them less attentive and more
easily distracted.
What's now informally called brain rot.
What does that look like in real life?
Yeah, let's take a school, for example.
Sitting in class and you're trying to focus.
They're going to be looking around, not attending
to what the teacher is trying to teach
them.
Dr. Nelson says emerging research points to even
greater risks.
We're just starting to see these changes and
we know they're connected to behavioral changes, depression,
anxiety.
The dangers are hiding in there.
Social media had really influenced me in a
lot of ways.
TikTok would kind of push these videos of
people popping an edible before school.
If I do this, maybe I'll be cool.
And I started self-medicating.
To deal with that, last year, she checked
into a treatment facility.
If you hadn't gone to treatment, where would
you be today?
I don't think I'd be here.
It was really bad.
Katie had to give up her phone in
treatment.
There, she found other outlets, from drawing to
playing guitar, that helped rewire her Gen Z
brain.
The key, perhaps, analog antidotes reminiscent of another
generation.
Playing in the dirt, drinking from the hose,
sort of the Gen X kind of mentality,
is shown to actually allow folks to recover,
to feel better, to make it easier to
kind of go about their day.
There it is.
Drink from the hose.
Play in the dirt.
Play in the dirt, children.
That'll fix it.
Yeah, I'm all in on this.
I can see it.
Well, you're talking to the wrong guy.
No, you have no idea what this is.
I create brain rot on myself sometimes.
Sometimes on, like, a Monday, which is I
try to kind of do a little bit
of a Sabbath, just, you know, when I
can't get away with it, but at least
I don't look at news, and I don't,
you know, I'm just, I'm not doing the
typical, I'm not doing emails on Monday.
Don't send me an email on Monday.
Goes to the bottom of the stack.
But then I'll sit on the couch around
three, like, let me see what's on YouTube.
And then it'll be five o'clock, and
I've seen a thousand cop body cam videos.
I've seen all kinds of things.
Like, what did I just do to myself?
And it goes by real quick.
You don't even realize it.
It is, there is an addictive quality to
it, and it rots my brain.
And then I need two more days to
recuperate so I can do the Thursday show.
Well, that's interesting.
I don't know if it's interesting.
Baby's been babysitting Theo a couple of times
because they had to go do some stuff.
How old is Theo adorable at this point?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
He's your grandkid.
You don't know how old he is.
I don't know how old you are.
This is where you say, he's new, I
don't remember.
I don't use that part of my memory
for that sort of thing.
Clearly.
Don't count on John for a birthday present,
Theo.
So he can watch, he plays Minecraft.
He's always yakking about it.
And I always tell him, I'm not interested.
I don't want to hear about it.
And I shut him down.
Grandpa, grandpa, come look at my Minecraft.
Look at my blocks.
And it's just like a terrible game.
And so it turns out he wants to,
when he comes over once in a while,
he wants to watch, of course, his parents
have now said no more of this.
I was used to show him, if he
wanted to be entertained on the television.
Let me guess, let me guess, Russian car
crash videos?
Absolutely.
He loved those.
Kids love watching Russian car crash videos.
Just a tip.
This is the tip of the day.
Tip of the day.
Early tip of the day, everybody.
So he wanted to watch some Minecraft videos.
Oh God.
And the Minecraft videos are all, talks about
the various, I don't know if they're cheats
or whatever.
It's just so dumb.
I mean, these blood, the characters are just
blocks.
They're just dumb.
Low res blocks.
They're just blocks.
Blocks.
There must be a 10,000 hours of
Minecraft videos on YouTube.
Oh yeah.
Oh, it's a big thing.
Sure.
It's unbelievable.
I said, well, you want to watch one?
He said, yeah, I want to watch that
one.
He points at when it's on the screen.
And I look at it because they have
the time.
And the lower right-hand side showing how
long they are.
Two and a half hours.
Oh yeah.
These streams.
Sure.
I've seen those.
I mean, I haven't watched them, but I
see them pop up.
Oh yeah.
Oh my God.
It's just boring as hell.
How about this?
I have an idea.
Here's a grandpa moment.
Why don't you go out and get a
huge Lego set?
He's got Legos.
Does he like Legos?
Yeah.
Well then, but you should buy him a
set like a, you know, one of those.
No, we've been by, believe me, we've done
that.
He's been bought plenty of Lego sets, but
he'll still be, he loves Minecraft is such
an extreme.
He likes playing it.
Likes learning about it.
Likes the cheats.
I think, I don't know what he's watching.
Yeah.
Is there, is that like second life where
there's all kinds of sex stuff going on?
No, I don't think so.
As far as I guess, there's just a
bunch of block characters wandering around kicking each
other.
It just doesn't make sense to me.
The whole game.
How about, how about a chemistry set?
Do they still make those?
No, they don't.
I used to, when I was a kid,
I had a real chemistry set that could
blow things up.
And I had sodium pentothal.
Oh, you did now?
Yeah.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
And I, and I was, and someone said,
Hey, that's truth serum.
So I take, it tasted awful.
Let me tell you that it didn't work
very well.
You have to inject it.
And then you had the microscope set or
the, yeah.
I definitely had a microscope set.
I had a chem, I had a real
chemistry set when they were real.
Yeah.
And they were dangerous and poisonous and toxic.
I had one of those.
You had sulfur in there.
You had.
Oh, beyond that.
You had all kinds of stuff.
It was awesome.
Good times, good days.
They won't sell those anymore to kids because
they might, you know, kill themselves.
I don't know why.
And that was your Boomer update.
Everybody, your Boomer update is complete.
And with that, I want to thank you
for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man
who put the C in the emotive conjugation.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end.
The one, the only Mr. John C.
DeMora.
Yeah, in the morning to you, Mr. Ian
Curry.
You're right.
In the morning to all ships and sea
boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs
in the water and all the names and
nights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.
I'm counting you now.
Hold on a second.
All right.
It's not all that great.
Let me see.
1927 was our peak.
1927, which is, I don't even think, I
think that's below average at this point.
Average is 1800.
No, I'm looking at the averages right now.
The average of Thursday is 1993.
That was, oh, no, that's the last show.
Last 10 shows, 2084.
The last 100 shows, 1904.
You're off.
But in general, Thursdays are up 4.7
% over the last 100.
Who cares?
Nobody cares.
I mean, it's like saying, how many downloads
do you have?
Who cares?
Nobody cares.
Nobody cares how many downloads.
We just care if we can keep the
show going.
What else would I do?
Well, I know what I'd be doing.
I'd be watching Minecraft videos.
You'd be on the phone, doom scrolling.
Doom scrolling is very bad.
What do you do when you're really not
working?
What do you do?
I'm writing or I'm sorting email or trying
to clean up my office or sorting towels,
folding laundry.
Sorting towels?
Yeah, sorting towels, folding laundry.
Or sometimes I maybe get in the car
and go someplace.
Yeah.
Where do you go?
Costco.
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's not some places, Costco.
Yeah.
Are you doing stuff?
Well, that's good.
That's good.
Not always.
I mean, sometimes I'm just watching television aimlessly.
Watching, trying to find something worth watching, which
is not easy to do.
So you watch your series during the day?
Not in the evening, right?
You don't watch TV in the evening.
You watch sports.
Sports.
I bet sports.
No, I don't watch that much sports.
I watch, no, I'm not, I follow sports,
but I don't sit there and watch it.
Like a basketball game.
That's what, at home, sitting there watching a
whole basketball.
Forget it.
It's the games are always the same.
Wait till the last two minutes and you
get to see the game.
So when you're sorting towels, do you have
to like match the, uh, the, the washcloth
with the towel or you're trying to make
a matching set?
No, I don't do it.
That's good.
And carried away.
What do you do then?
I just fold them and put them in
a, in a, in the drawer.
Oh, you said sorting.
You said sorting.
Well, that's kind of sorting.
You got to take the, you know, cause
there was towels that go into one drawer
and there's a towel, there's dish towels and
there's kitchen towels and there's bath towels or
three.
There's three kinds of things.
You got to select them.
Got to select them.
Wow.
You should consider some single use towels.
Called paper towels.
Yeah, exactly.
I got those two.
Have a, do you have a dispenser?
Paper towel dispenser.
Not, not, not one of those round ones,
but when I got a roll, not one
of those, like in the bathroom, we pull
out a brown sheet.
No, I don't know what that is.
Yeah.
You've been to a restroom and you wash
your hands and then you, there's a dispenser
and you pull out a brush.
Yeah, that's not a bad idea.
Yeah, but then you have to spend your
days refilling them.
You don't need that aggravation.
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play.
You know what?
Does your smart TV do that?
That annoys you.
That does annoy me.
Yeah.
Why?
Because I just want to look at the
description.
It gives you a little sample.
This is free sample.
It's all free.
It's a sample though.
I don't want the sample.
I want to click to get the sample.
Well, maybe they should have a toggle.
You can turn that off.
Well, that would be an idea.
I'm sure that.
I liked it.
I liked a little sample.
I'm sure that they're counting that as a
view.
Hey man, we got it.
They know it's all done in minutes.
If you read the trades, it's all billions
of minutes on there.
There's that.
So that, yeah, they can, I can, you
know, I bet you they do.
Cause since it's done in, in, in micros,
it's done it by second by second.
That might actually count as a view.
I'm sure they do that.
Yeah.
The whole thing is sleazy.
Yes.
Well, no sleazier than charging.
And the content is junk.
There's so much garbage is poorly written, poorly
acted.
We wound up watching the Marky Mark movie.
What was the Marky Mark movie?
What's that called?
The Walt, the Mark Wahlberg movie is the
family plan.
It's from 2023.
Yeah.
He's a car dealer.
He's got a little family.
And then it turns out, huh?
Oh, as you mean is starring him?
Yes.
It's starting here.
I think he also has a biography or
something where you described.
No, he also, he'll, I just call him
Marky Mark.
Cause I know him as Marky Mark.
He produced it too.
And it turns out he was an assassin.
And Oh, well, that's creative.
It was a feel good movie.
I can't help it.
Feel good movie about a car dealer.
Who's an assassin.
Yes.
It was a feel good movie.
Wow.
Um, uh, anyway, so we don't, uh, we
just give you top quality entertainment and media
deconstruction every single Thursday and Sunday.
That's all we do.
We don't charge you for it.
We don't make you jump through hoops.
There's no free preview.
The whole thing is a free preview.
Listen to the whole thing.
You know, if you don't like it, then
you should have bailed out long ago.
And the best part of course, is the
donation segment.
That's where all the magic happens.
And a lot of that is the content
that comes from our producers themselves.
Um, but first we need to thank, um,
our artist who brought us the artwork for
episode 1747.
We titled that hi-fi Intel, which is
exactly what we provide.
High fidelity intelligence just for you.
So we do.
And, uh, now this was from a brand
new, uh, artist gun monkey.
I think gun monkey, uh, had been on
the art generator for two hours.
And this doesn't happen very often.
It's happened about three times.
Yeah.
But all recent, I think since the, uh,
the advent of AI.
And this was, uh, an interesting piece.
It was a flying Volkswagen bus.
The repurposed factory.
Yes, exactly.
And it had all kinds of U.S.
Navy bombs and it had, uh, Korean Dvorak
bombs.
Yeah.
I don't get the U.S. Navy aspect
to it, but okay.
I did get a note from a gun
monkey.
Oh, yes.
And it turns out gun monkey is a
girl.
I didn't know that.
Gun monkey's a girl.
Yes.
What did she have to say?
Wait a minute.
Hold on a second.
Is this, uh, let me make sure I'm
saying this right.
Did we choose gun monkey before?
No.
Well, what was the cow art?
Who did the cow art?
That was also gun monkey.
Yeah.
We chose gun monkey two shows in a
row.
Oh, and, and she's new to the thing.
Yes.
Oh, that's odd.
She did the cow.
Yeah.
Monkey did the cow.
Here.
Gun monkey says, I want to thank you
for selecting the cow art for 1746.
I've been listening to Noah Jenner since 2020.
After I was hitting him.
Well, gun monkey didn't do this, this, this
thing.
This was done by.
By someone else.
You're right.
Yeah.
This is T.I. Put it wasn't.
One pipple.
That's.
And who is the, was the first.
That's a mistake on my, on my part.
Yeah.
What are you giving gun monkey the credit
for this guy?
Gun monkey deserves no credit.
No.
Who, who did this one then?
This is T.I. Pipple.
T.I. Pipple.
Pipple J.
Oh, sorry.
T.I. Pipple J.
Which probably means something in, in hacks or.
Yeah.
Well, I didn't get a note from.
And this was the first submission.
Cause he submitted five pieces the first time
ever.
And he got, got a winner.
Or she could be a, she, I don't
know.
Could be.
Well, I'm, well, I'm still going to read
this.
I don't know.
I would, you got to try.
Side track.
Would gun monkey flirting with you?
What's the deal here?
Well, no, a gun monkey.
Said that, that, that he's a she.
And, and gun monkey is a professional artist.
And I wanted to welcome gun monkey to
the, to the show.
Even though gun monkey has been listening since
2020.
And gun monkey also owns a gallery gun
monkey art.com.
Makes sense.
Doesn't it?
I guess.
So I don't know about people.
Jay people.
Jay know nothing about, but we appreciate people.
Jay is the one who came in first
time.
Cause gun monkey has submitted before.
She wasn't a one.
You're right.
One off.
Yeah.
People to people.
Jay guy or girl came in first shot
and got, this is, it happens rarely, but
it has happened before.
Great job.
Comes in with five pieces and they, and
he had two of them, I thought were
quite good.
Yes.
And actually they were all okay, but two
of them were really good.
And he, she won the, for the Volkswagen
flying bus, the flying bug.
Yeah.
People, there's a bus.
It's a bus.
It's a bed.
Yeah.
People, Jay, let us know about you.
I love getting notes from, from, from the
artist.
Was there anything else that we looked at
that we need to discuss?
No, actually.
We were, this was such a clear winner.
I think we both determined it to be
the.
Yeah.
I think we picked it pretty quick.
Cause it stood out.
Yeah.
Yes.
Oh, there's a lot of fun art for
today.
Yeah.
There's a lot of stuff.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, people who thought it
was a good idea to have puking leprechauns
and puking Irish.
No, we're not going to choose puke art.
No.
One of the things you have to remember,
we have.
Unwritten rules, including grotesquery.
Grotesqueness, yes.
Anything that's grotesque or kind of sickening or
nauseating is not going to be picked ever.
Automatic fail.
Because that we don't want that association where
people associate no agenda with something gruesome.
Don't like it.
Don't want it.
I'm not going to accept it.
So anyway, thank you very much people.
Jay, we appreciate you.
And we also always thank the people who
support us.
Unlike the download scam, which is like, oh,
you know, we had a million downloads.
OK, how much is that?
That's what they say to advertisers.
You don't even know if people listen to
it.
That's the scam right there.
You know, downloads.
You got a whole bunch.
There's not much else you can do.
What else can you do?
Yeah, there's nothing else to be done.
Can't be done.
Nothing else to be done.
So that's why podcasting is a problem.
That's why it's all moving to YouTube.
Because you can, you know, you get 30
seconds of view time.
Boom!
Someone watched.
That's not a scam.
No, instead, we just ask you to support
the show with whatever you think the show
is worth to you.
It's called the value for value principle.
The value for value model.
And we thank everybody.
That's an important part of the feedback loop.
Or important part of value for value is
having the feedback loop.
Some people take advantage of us and send
in very, very long notes.
That's not the idea.
But we will comply as much as we
can.
And we thank everyone.
There's one couple coming up.
I know.
That are just like, come on.
I saw them.
And some are just pure puzzling.
We thank everybody, $50 and above.
And we make special mention of our executive
and associate executive producers.
These are people who donate $200 and above.
And that means that you become an associate
executive producer.
That's a real credit.
You can use it anywhere credits are recognized.
Hollywood style.
And we'll read your note.
$300 and above.
Same thing.
Only you're an executive producer.
And back with a vengeance is Sironimus of
Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia.
Our top executive producer today.
With 3352.
Man.
Bringing home the bacon for us.
I'm sure there was at least one $2
bill in there.
Well, two.
Good $2 bills.
3354.
I have 3352 on my note here.
Oh, it says 3354 on the spreadsheet.
Okay.
This is very important because if we get
the code wrong, someone's going to die.
So written on the note is 3352.
On the spreadsheet, you put 3352.
This J has to.
J could be responsible for.
Well, here's what.
Okay.
I'm going to.
Here's what.
Normally, here's what happens.
We're very concerned about this.
No, no kidding.
So usually the anonymous donation comes in.
I count it and keep the.
No, there's the first weak spot.
No, I count it.
And then I have somebody else count it.
So two people count it.
And you get a number.
And if the number matches, that's the number
we use in this case.
I never counted it this time because I
was cooking or something.
Sorting towels.
I was sorting towels.
And so we have this problem.
Well, hold on.
Do you recall there being more than one
$2 bill?
I'd have to go look in the drawer.
Next to your phone?
Next to the phone.
Now everyone knows where the money is kept.
We're running this show out of John's drawer.
Laughably, that's closer to the truth.
There is a drawer that has money in
it.
I'm sorry.
I don't know what to say.
So the code, the people out there that
need this code.
It's either they're going to have to try
both these numbers and see what happens.
From Seronomous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia.
Thank you to all producers for their ongoing
effort to make this a primary news and
information source.
Also, thank you to producers offering insight on
algorithms and attribution capacity.
John's Oasis column and John and Adam's willingness
to read a long note.
Can you do it again and hold it?
We'll read his long note.
Well, and then he posted four.
He posted some music notation.
Yes, I was told about this.
And are you looking at the notes?
Because I'm looking at it.
And so it's four.
Not bars.
But can anybody read this musical?
Do you have an instrument there?
You can play those four notes.
Well, it's the same note every single time.
But it's one is like.
And then the second line is.
What does it sound like?
Does it sound like anything to you yet?
And then.
No, I have no idea what this is.
And then he'll tell us and then it'll
be something that we go, oh, duh.
But then he also has two, three pieces
highlighted in yellow.
Yes, I don't understand that either.
This is, he's gone out of his way
to confuse us.
It's a problem.
It's a real problem.
You know what I'm going to do here?
I have an idea here.
Hold on a second.
So he's musical.
Well, I don't know if he's.
Well, maybe he is.
That's an interesting point.
Let me see if I can post this
into the troll room.
Yes.
If anybody out there can play these notes
or.
There you go.
This is the trolls have it.
I've pasted it.
It says 27, 30, 33.
I don't know.
I don't know any what this means.
Anyway, he does close it by saying Ramadan.
We will find before all the before the
show ends in four years.
We will have this figured out.
Ramadan Mubarak.
May this Ramadan cleanse your soul and bring
you closer to the almighty.
He closes no jingles, no karma.
And the trolls are now speculating when their
typical stupid troll way.
So we'll never get a straight answer.
Good was a good idea.
What?
How stupid am I?
All right.
Thank you very much.
Seronomous.
Please let us know if we got this
number.
Correct.
It's on the note is scribbled 3352.
So I'm going to think that that is
the correct code, the correct number.
That's what I'm thinking.
And I apologize for any death and destruction
that has been put on later.
Yes.
I apologize for any death and destruction.
Okay.
I got to get my mouse to work.
Come on, mouse.
You can do it.
There we go.
Okay.
Now we've got Dame Becky.
She came in and she has a note.
And okay.
This is going to be annoying if I
can't get this thing to work.
So I can switch over to the note.
Oh, there it is.
Okay.
ITM Jensen closes a belated birthday donation for
the two of us.
Sir Mike Baronet of the Great Katy Prairie
celebrated 74 trips around the sun on March
8th, 2025.
Dame Becky Baronetess of the Great Katy Prairie
celebrated 73 trips around the sun on March
2nd.
So they're both marchers.
The donation takes us each to Baron Baroness.
And we hereby request the territory of the
Gulf Coast of Texas.
No jingles, no karma.
Keep up the amazing work you both do
to keep us sane and our amygdala shrunk.
Regards, Becky Kinney.
Oh, Becky Kinney.
That's Becky Kinney.
Yeah.
In Katy, Texas.
We've had, yeah, obviously she's a regular.
Then we got two checks of 333.33
from Chap Williams in Edmond, Oklahoma, which of
course totals 666.66. But there was no
note.
I do not have an email.
I have nothing of the sort.
So I will just give him a double
up karma.
I say, thank you very much.
You've got karma.
We'll expect a note eventually.
Ryan Schubert in Richmond Hill, Georgia.
$500 checking in from Savannah.
Unless it's actually in Savannah.
Yes.
Please de-douche my wife.
Sorry.
You've been de-douche.
Sorry, fat fingered it.
And I request baby making karma, no jingle.
You've got karma.
I do want to thank the fine folks
over at noagendachocolates.com.
Another box came in, John.
Have you received another box?
No.
Of turtles?
No, I haven't seen any turtles.
And I got a hoodie.
A Little John's Candies hoodie.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
Tina took that right away and said, these
people are trying to kill us.
Well, maybe.
Ryan Schubert, Rich.
Oh, I'm sorry.
That's you.
Go ahead.
You do Ryan Schubert.
No, you just did him.
I'm doing Scott Lamont.
There we go.
In Somerset, Massachusetts.
$350.93. My final night payment.
Sir Scott, the white knight of Pottersville Village
in Somerset, Taxachusetts.
At the round table.
Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon and salt and vinegar almonds.
And that's his entire note.
So you got it.
Thank you.
Baroness Sarah Rupert.
In Oakland, California, three, three, three, three, three.
She writes happy 50th birthday today to Jonathan
Rupert from Baroness Sarah Rupert.
And the original no agenda sucker baby violet
violet.
She's older now.
We love you so much.
This donation plus the it's called a trap
baby, by the way.
Trap baby.
You can call a sucker baby if you
want.
We love you so much.
This donation plus the one he made in
December and our subscription has earned him a
seat at the round table.
Could you knight him today on his 50th
birthday as Sir Jonathan Rupert.
Please wish Jonathan happy birthday and an ITM
when you come to the April 5th meetup
for John's birthday at our new restaurant.
We have a pizza place.
They own the two of them.
How cool.
On Piedmont.
It's a it's also a grand opening weekend
of our second pizzeria Violetta.
They named a pizza place after the trap
baby.
She was now older.
Located in the new Prescott Market in West
Oakland.
Oh, that's another place.
Double check address from the meetup site to
make sure you go to the correct location.
OK, we'll have the they're going to have
a chain of these places.
We have the VIP section reserved for the
no agenda family.
We'd love to be the new meetup spot
for the Bay Area.
There we go.
There you go.
A barren dude named Jeff.
333 dot 33.
This donation pushes me past Viscount status.
Nice.
Huge dose of relationship karma.
I need all the help I can get.
You got it.
I'm going to throw in a goat actually.
Make sure you get the right stuff.
You've got karma.
Goats are always good for relationships.
North Idaho Sanity Brigade donation and conquered.
Yes, dearest boomers.
It should be noted that the meetups just
might be the single easiest way to generate
executive and associate executive producer donations.
Attendees can simply plunk down bits of cash
into the center of the table.
You have Brunetti-esque big boy forever credit
before you can say phony ISO.
Yes, a lot of people are complaining.
They're saying your phony ISOs are phony because
an ISO is short for isolated clip.
That does not mean AI generated clip.
So it's unfair what you're doing.
It should also be noted that Adam, since
something was amiss, after three and a half
months, the very beginning of the ISO gate,
but John gas lit him by falsely claiming
they were coming from audiobooks.
It wasn't early.
It was about a month into it.
It wasn't a false claim.
You claimed it.
No, there's the use of false claim.
Yeah, exactly.
But it wasn't right away when I was
after about a month before he decided to
call me out on these clips.
And that's when I gas lit him, if
you want to put it that way.
Yes, yes.
I would use the term bullshitted him with
the idea that it came from an audiobook
because it made nothing but sense because they
were very crisp and clear.
And it sounded like an audiobook person.
Anyway, he continues, love is lit, Sir Scott,
the Jew and North Idaho Sanity Brigade.
Yes.
And I got a post note asking the
North Idaho Sanity Brigade, Brigade requested a doo
doo.
I'm all tongue tied today.
You got it.
You're hanging in there.
A de-douching for Jack Kramer.
You've been de-douched.
And according to Darren O'Neill, the sheet
music in the image appears to be from
Beethoven's Symphony No.
9 in D minor, Opus 125, specifically the
fourth movement, which includes the famous Ode to
Joy meme.
The highlighted sections correspond to recognizable melodic patterns
from this symphony.
So he sent it to AI.
Oh, yeah, of course he sent it to
AI.
Good idea.
Ode to Joy.
That was a good idea.
Ode to Joy, which is the European Union's
national anthem.
Oh, that's where we're dealing with.
We're starting to figure it out.
We're on to you.
Thanks to AI.
Yes.
Anon.
Actually, thanks to Darren.
Anon in anonymous, place unknown, 222.22, a
row of ducks.
Hopefully short and sweet this time.
This row of ducks was the steak dinner
monies that was previously allocated to the Osaka
Castle Cherry Blossom Viewing and Amygdala Shrinking Meetup,
hosted by Sir Bill of Osaka.
That's in Japan.
And Sir 3D.
And that was on Saturday, April 5th at
1333.
See no agenda meetups for more details.
Bring your own beer.
Hopefully, I will be sporting a night ring
next time I go to that meetup.
Was happy with the results of the TPP
karma.
So I definitely recommend producers donate $200 and
pick that again.
Pick that.
Again, thank you to the extensive list of
producers that have provided value to the show
through the three Ts.
Time, talent, and treasure.
Adam, don't feel bad.
The zoomers and newer call the millennials and
older boomers.
I don't feel bad at all.
I learned on the last episode.
It's because we have incredible knowledge.
Jingles.
JCD Hot Pockets.
Beautiful.
Yum.
And a TPP jobs karma.
Hot Pockets.
Beautiful.
Yum.
You've got karma.
Pauly Bravo.
Pauly Bravo in Fort Collins, Colorado.
Nice town.
22087.
25th anniversary.
Thanks, Violet.
Thanks, Violet Wild on Spotify.
Okay.
Anyone ever go to a Joko Cruz on
a Joko Cruz?
What's Joko Cruz?
I don't know what a Joko Cruz is.
Happy birthday, Chauncey.
Sir Pauly Bravo in Foko.
Okay.
Joko Foko.
I don't know.
Hey, look who comes in with $212.
It's our guy Blockman Bing.
Oh, yeah?
That is the guy whose note we read
who was complaining about us.
That's right.
Calling us out for all kinds of things.
Turns out he lives in New Jersey, Tintin
Falls.
And he says...
That makes nothing but sense.
Long-time boner, first-time donor.
Not, well, not the first-time complainer.
I've been listening since Adam was on Twit
in 2010.
But I only started listening religiously since COVID.
I used to love the chemtrails and trains
good jingles.
I could get those, a de-douching, and
goat karma, please.
I thought there was more to this note.
Did this note get redacted?
Not that I know of.
And I'm wondering whether this is the same
guy or he's just someone using the name.
Hold on a second, because I remember this
note was longer.
Is Jay editing?
No, he doesn't do that.
Here.
It's a very long note.
Yes, side.
Oh, side notes.
This is interesting.
I'm glad I caught this, because the side
notes are interesting.
I am an Indian Hindu doctor.
I voted Republican in every election since I
turned 18 20 years ago.
I took a little offense at being labeled
a drive-by.
That was, that was...
Yeah, it's the same guy.
That was my accusation, by the way.
I'll take full credit for calling him a
drive-by.
You are correct.
I have emails with Adam dating back to
2010 when I started listening.
And then he says, useful idiot is a
term that...
Because he called us useful idiots for Israel.
Useful idiot is a term that harkens back
to the Cold War to reference non-commies
doing the propaganda legwork for commies.
Yeah, there used to be a podcast called
The Useful Idiots that Matt Taibbi used to
do.
This is relevant today in non-Israelis defending
Israel by not calling out their crimes against
humanity.
You see, I think that is a problem.
You cannot say we are defending anybody because
we're not calling someone out for their crimes
against humanity.
Because then you never stop.
So we're defending thousands of people.
Yeah, it's a negative.
Yeah, we're defending thousands of people being killed
in Syria.
We're defending the killing of people in Somalia.
Oakland, for that matter.
Oakland, yes.
We are pro-death in Oakland.
No, you can't do that.
You can't do that.
So I take some exception with that.
Anyway, I'm glad I got the rest of
your note.
And so we wanted a Chemtrails, which I
hadn't seen, obviously.
Chemtrails, Trains Good, and what else did he
want?
And de-douching?
You've been de-douched.
Here we go, Karma, coming up.
All aboard Trains Good, planes bad.
Thanks for your note, brother.
You've got Karma.
We take no offense at your opinions.
No, we don't take any offense.
He's been listening for 15 years and he
finally donated.
And he comes around.
And it took us calling out his note.
Yeah, if it wasn't for that, we would
probably still not have heard from him.
We never would have heard.
He would still have been driving by, just
shooting spitballs.
La Jolla Salt Corporation in La Jolla, California.
Oh, didn't you get some of their product?
I got some of their product.
No, I got none of their product.
Their product is outstanding.
What is it, salt?
Read the note.
Oh, 211-865 is what contributed, he, she,
whatever group, this corporation.
It says, decimate dry skin with a luxurious
sea salt scrub from lajollasalt.com.
Enjoy the dazzling moisture and exfoliating power of
our small batch sea salt scrubs.
Handmade by the sea in the village of
La Jolla.
For complete decimation, kick in for a bundle
of 10.
LaJollaSalt.com, putting the sea back in sea
salt scrub.
LaJollaSeaSalt.com.
Thank you for your courage.
They forgot the Code Bongino offer.
Yeah, I noticed there was no discount there.
I'm surprised.
It's a great product.
I have tried it.
Scrub, I exfoliated like a madman.
Dame Stacey is in Billings, Montana.
210 and 60 cents.
In the morning to you, gentlemen, this is
a March 21st birthday donation to me.
I want to thank Saddle Tramp for hitting
me in the mouth a few years ago.
Ah, Saddle Tramp.
How is Saddle Tramp?
Haven't heard from her in a while.
Although I have not been able to fully
hit anyone in the mouth, I have smacked
my husband around with different segments.
I'm requesting a non-kamala biscuit for my
birthday jingle.
Please stay safe.
Dame Stacey of Yellowstone Country and the Black
Hills.
They always give me a biscuit on my
birthday.
Eli the Coffee Guy in Bensonville, Illinois.
There we go.
$203.20. This, by the way, I'm not
sure.
This one we put in here because it
came in and it got one of the
pending things.
This happens with people every once in a
while.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, we don't know.
It looks dubious.
It could be a terrorist.
Yeah, Coffee, Coffee Guy.
So the guy comes in every show with
this guy, almost the same amount of money.
And then they have to flag it.
Oh, problem.
Gets flagged out of the blue because it's
a randomizer.
There's no real work being done here.
He writes, you know, he writes.
Well, news agencies railed against the administration for
deporting an innocent pro-Palestine advocate for exercising
his free speech.
You guys called out Mahmoud Khalil.
I have a clip.
I have a bonus clip.
Ah, bonus clip, everybody.
Right in the middle of this.
Let's play the bonus clip.
All right.
What is it called?
Khalil.
Could have figured that one out.
A federal judge in New York today rejected
the Trump administration's efforts to keep Columbia protester
Mahmoud Khalil in a Louisiana detention facility.
The protester's attorney said the government wanted to
avoid New York and New Jersey.
Our legal correspondent Arlene Richards finds out whether
location matters.
A New York federal judge on Wednesday ordered
that Columbia protester Mahmoud Khalil be transferred to
New Jersey.
In a 33 page order, Judge Jesse Furman
moved the entire case to a New Jersey
federal court.
He ruled that since Khalil was still being
held in a New Jersey facility when his
attorney requested his release, the case must be
heard in New Jersey.
One of Khalil's attorneys said in a statement
that the government moved him to Louisiana to
avoid having the case heard in New York
or New Jersey.
Critics say Louisiana's appeals court is the most
conservative in the country, whereas New Jersey's Third
Circuit panel is evenly split with six conservative
judges and six liberal judges.
While the Justice Department hasn't commented on the
claim, international law attorney Gerard Felitti said in
a text message that the court explicitly said
there was no basis to conclude that the
government transferred Khalil from New York to Louisiana
for an improper purpose.
He adds that deportation decisions are made by
immigration courts.
Appeals are typically made to the Board of
Immigration Appeals and then in certain circumstances to
the appropriate federal court.
Felitti confirmed that Louisiana federal courts do lean
conservative, whereas New Jersey federal courts have historically
been less inclined to uphold deportation orders.
But he said we are far from the
deportation stage.
Right now, the New Jersey court would have
to decide whether Khalil's rights were violated in
the first place.
He said what we will hear are arguments
about whether his First and Fifth Amendment rights
were violated by the government.
The attorney said if the court rules in
Khalil's favor, the government will have to be
successful on appeal in order to proceed with
a deportation hearing.
I talked to a constitutional lawyer, Rob, and
Rob.Lawyer, and I said, what's going on
with all this?
Who is in charge?
He said, well, this is how it was
written.
The executive's Article 2 and the judicial Article
3, they were meant to make it all
at odds with each other.
It's called checks and balances.
So this is how our system was meant
to work.
Confusing and annoying.
Good work, founding fathers.
And it pays the bills.
Somehow this, doesn't this somehow go back to
Madison versus Marburg?
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Was it Marbury versus Madison?
Marbury, yeah.
Marbury.
You said Marburg?
I did.
Yeah, you're thinking of the Ebola type virus.
I'm thinking of Mark Wahlberg and I'm confused.
Oh, that could be too.
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Our formula is this.
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I have an ask Adam kind of thing.
Kind of thing or is it?
It's like I want to because this is
a clip I took from NPR and it
sounded.
I heard what I heard was later corrected.
But what I heard, I want to see
if you hear.
Okay, do I play the jingle first or
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Okay, I'm ready.
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What I heard was not.
Don't tell me.
Don't tell me what you heard because that
may.
No, of course not.
I want you to tell me what you
hear.
Okay.
From KUNC and the NPR network.
This is In The NoCo.
I heard KUNC.
Okay.
I know what you heard.
You heard KUNT.
Yeah.
She was more clear later in the clip.
Uh-huh.
And then when she said it, because I
heard it, I said, what?
What kind of a state?
How did they allow this?
And then they, she said KUNC more clearly
later.
And I said, oh, that's interesting.
And I went back and played this again.
I still heard it misheard it.
You were set up at that point.
You were set up.
It could be.
Set yourself up.
Well, I'm glad you got it.
We were talking about AI during the donation
segment.
Welcome back everybody who doesn't listen to the
donation segment.
You missed some good clips.
Jokes on you.
And that included a decodation of Seronimus of
Dogpatch's musical notation.
Which we believe now is a code to
joy.
We're not sure yet.
But AI is being applied everywhere.
What could possibly go wrong?
As we hear from the UK Times podcast.
Laura, you've got the story in the paper
today about David Lammy, the Foreign Secretary, is
bringing AI and novel technologies into the Foreign
Office to help diplomats practice negotiation scenarios.
That's fascinating.
I do and he is.
It is fun, isn't it?
I mean, everybody in government is tasked with
thinking about ways that they can use AI
and talk about the opportunities of AI.
But David Lammy, never one to be left
out, is trying very hard in a speech
today at the British Chambers of Commerce to
talk about how the Foreign Office can deliver
growth.
So there'll be succumbents for Foreign Office staff.
There'll be various new units.
And insight groups.
But the thing that caught me most, my
eye the most, talking to people in government
about this in recent days was the upcoming
announcement on artificial intelligence.
Which is actually that they're developing, they've got
two new AI tools inside the Foreign Office.
And they are developing ways to help diplomats
to actually do negotiations.
They're trying to create virtual realities.
So you could just drop an ambassador with
a VR headset into a meeting with an
overseas prime minister.
Talking to a Donald Trump bot.
Exactly.
They're modelling how countries and other diplomats respond
to things like natural disasters.
So hurricanes or to sharp rises in inflation
and various economic shocks.
So it's quite interesting the extent to which
it can replace the kind of conventional and
very age-old tradition of these diplomats building
strong personal relations with people.
I'm not massively convinced.
But I think it will be very interesting
to see how ambassadors and high commissioners aim
to use that actually.
Why don't they just have the UK AI
talk to the US AI?
Take out the middlemen.
Yeah, and then go into that mode.
The high-speed yak-yak mode.
It's not high speed.
It's 35 baud.
Thank you.
I did have a concerning note here.
Yes.
From Tom's hardware blog.
There are apparently USB-C cables when scanned
with a CT scanner.
Reveals electronics in the connector that include an
antenna and another die embedded in the microcontroller.
Ooh, that sounds like a pretty cool device.
Ooh is right.
We don't know what it does.
Well, you know what it does?
It's a spying device.
But you can get them?
Oh, you, oh.
Where can you get them?
I don't know.
At hack five, apparently, according to the troll
room.
Hack five.
Oh, I didn't realize that.
I want to call out a script.
I'm disappointed in Miss Leavitt and Peter Doocy
for playing out a little show in the
press room.
This was funny, but yet unnecessary because it
was obvious you colluded.
And this discredits Peter Doocy of Fox News.
There is now a member of the European
Parliament from France who does not think the
US represents the values of the Statue of
Liberty anymore.
They want the Statue of Liberty back.
So is President Trump going to send the
Statue of Liberty back to France?
Absolutely not.
And my advice to that unnamed, low-level
French politician would be to remind them that
it's only because of the United States of
America that the French are not speaking German
right now.
So they should be very grateful to our
great country.
So obvious.
Yeah, that's pretty bad.
Yeah, I was turned off by that.
I want to get this out of the
way, which is the stranded astronauts controversy.
Controversy?
Yeah, they weren't stranded.
No, they weren't.
Well, depends on who you talk to.
I have two clips.
I have the astronauts return.
But before I play that, I want to
play the stranded astronauts clip.
This was a couple of weeks ago when
they were at a press conference.
They were floating around in the pod and
they were asked this question.
I like that you titled the clip stranded
astrobots.
Here's the question.
Our next question is from Aaron Gregg with
the Washington Post.
Hi, everyone.
Thanks for doing this.
So my question relates to Elon Musk.
My goodness.
This sounds just like those quarterly calls from
Wall Street.
Our next question is from the Wall Street
Journal.
Hey, everybody.
Great queue.
Yeah, I have a question for the astronauts.
Our next question is from Aaron Gregg with
the Washington Post.
Hi, everyone.
Thanks for doing this.
So my question relates to Elon Musk has
said that he made the offer to bring
you guys back earlier and that it was
denied.
My first question is, is that true?
And if so, what would that have looked
like?
Was he offering to make another flight, push
seats on another flight?
Could you give us some background there?
I can only say that Mr. Musk, what
he says is absolutely factual.
We have no information on that, though, whatsoever.
What was offered, what was what was not
offered, who was offered to how that process
went.
That's information that we simply don't have.
So I believe him.
I don't know all those details.
And I don't think any of us really
can give you the answer that maybe that
you would be hoping for.
Well, that's interesting.
So the answer they were hoping for, of
course, is that Biden stranded them.
Yeah, but they were offered a trip back.
And then Biden actually did strand them, left
them up there.
It's now become a bone of contention amongst
the media.
Well, the word stranded isn't being used correctly.
They like being up there and lost.
They were lost in space.
And so we have the astronauts return clip,
which is just kind of summarizes them coming
back to NASA.
Astronauts are back on Earth after an extended
stay on the International Space Station.
Their mission was set to last only eight
days.
But Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams ended up
spending nine months in orbit.
Central Florida Public Media's Brendan Byrne has more
on the astronauts.
Two hundred and eighty six days in space.
It was a picture perfect return as the
SpaceX Dragon capsule gently splashed down under a
canopy of four parachutes just off the coast
of Tallahassee, Florida, and splashdown crew nine back
on Earth.
But their mission wasn't as smooth as their
return.
NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams arrived
at the station back in June in Boeing
Starliner spacecraft designed to take astronauts to and
from the station.
It was a test flight, but during their
arrival, the crew encountered problems with the spacecraft's
thrusters.
Starliner docked successfully, but NASA decided it wasn't
safe enough to take them home.
Instead, they went with another company, Elon Musk's
SpaceX, for the return journey.
Starliner was sent back to Earth without a
crew in August, and an already planned crew
mission flew to the station in September with
only two of its four seats taken by
NASA's Nick Hague and Russia's Alexander Gorbunov.
The empty seats were for Wilmore and Williams.
The four returned home together.
Nick, Alex, Butch, Sonny, on behalf of SpaceX,
welcome home.
During their extended stay, Wilmore and Williams became
part of the station crew, conducting 150 unique
science experiments and multiple spacewalks.
NASA's Steve Stich says despite the mission not
going as originally planned.
You know, Butch and Sonny's return on Dragon
to me shows how important it is to
have two different crew transportation systems.
NASA says Boeing is committed to flying Starliner
again, although when that will happen and whether
or not it will carry a crew is
still unclear.
What I find fascinating about all this is
that the blue, the blue, the blue thing,
was it blue horizon, blue origin?
What is Bezos's outfit called?
Yeah, blue, baby blue.
They've had a lander on the so-called
moon for two weeks, and you've hardly heard
anything about it.
Mainly because.
It's not doing anything up there.
Well, it's out of power now.
It's done.
Yeah.
I thought.
Yes.
I was going to say, well, go, you
can finish that thought, because I was discussing
how I thought that they've stayed up on
the space station so they can collect a
bunch of overtime.
But some one of our producers looked into
it and found out that they weren't going
to get any overtime at all.
They got kind of gypped by this whole
thing.
Yeah, they got like 170 bucks a day
or something.
Yeah.
Meals and transportation.
I think they did get some per diem.
Yeah, some drink coupons, possibly.
That's a rough deal, man.
That's no good.
Yeah, of course.
Somebody pointed out that they're both of them
weren't young, and so they're going to have
a hard time covering.
Yeah, hard time.
Yeah.
And then, of course, there's the fly.
You probably saw the fly video.
Yeah, I saw the fly.
I'm not buying it.
You know, it could be any sort of
anomaly.
Yeah, you believe it.
I think the whole splashdown was AI generated.
It was just AI.
There was no splashdown.
AI is not that good.
AI is very good.
It's very good at that stuff.
You know, and that Jensen guy, he keeps
doing.
Jensen from NVIDIA.
Oh, Jensen Wong.
Yeah, he keeps doing these Steve Jobs things
with his leather jacket.
His leather jacket and his sneakers.
Yeah, and he's got a robot just accompanying
him.
Yeah, and he's treating the robot like a
dog, and there's a stand over there.
It's like, he's so fake.
I had dinner with that guy.
Yeah?
Yeah, some years back before they really got
big.
When he was still a gaming guy?
Yeah, when he's still a gaming guy.
Yeah.
He's a nice guy.
Yeah, I'm sure he is.
I like him.
You can go kick him in the shin.
I'm sure he's even nicer now.
Yeah, I'll bet he is.
Or like, he won't have dinner with me
now.
No, no, no, not at all.
Who's that guy?
Who?
I think we need to, I'm going to
wrap up my offerings for today with some
measles, because we've got to sound the alarm.
New York City, under alert.
I'm calling on all New Yorkers.
If you've not been vaccinated, your child's not
vaccinated, please step up and get it done.
Today, Governor Kathy Hochul spoke about why she
is sounding the alarm, encouraging all New Yorkers
to get vaccinated against measles.
While the outbreaks in Texas and New Mexico
may seem far away, 13 other states are
reporting cases of measles, including New York State.
And there is an outbreak in Ontario, Canada,
which borders New York.
Governor Hochul is hoping to combat any vaccine
hesitancy.
The vaccination has been determined to have saved
60 million lives over the last 20 years
alone.
60 million lives.
That's extraordinary.
60 million lives saved?
What?
Yeah, that's what she's saying.
What, is she nuts?
She's saying that the vaccine has saved over
60 million lives from the deadly measles.
Oh my God.
That just doesn't, that's just, that sounds, that's...
No, it's bullcrap.
That's what it sounds like.
We cannot go backwards in this time of
fear and disinformation.
It'll only wreak havoc on our state.
Wreak havoc.
Let's go forward together.
The state launched a new web portal today
with information about measles.
About 81 percent of New York residents have
received at least one MMR dose, that is
the measles vaccine.
Not enough.
Since 1989, two doses have been recommended.
The first dose is given at the age
of one, the second at four to six
years of age.
She's doing this all wrong.
You've got to offer french fries and a
Big Mac and then they will get vaccinated.
But the worst part is Dr. Peter Hotep.
Hotep, yes, well, he's very, he's celebrating because
it was, you know, COVID broke out.
Celebrating another day of life from the looks
of him.
Five years ago was when we first came
out with the mRNA vaccine, which, as you
know, has been incredibly successful.
Just ask him.
Just ask President Trump.
Saved millions of lives.
Almost as many as the measles vaccine.
It's just fantastic.
Five years ago tomorrow, Moderna introduced the first
human trials for a COVID-19 vaccine.
But the point, and the point you made
to us all those years ago, is that
the research that went into that vaccine and
the others started well before the pandemic.
In some cases, 40 years before the pandemic,
including research that you'd done.
This is the kind of thing we're talking
about here.
Research that's being done in the background that
most people don't even know for diseases that
we don't know that we're going to suffer
from.
Yeah, that's exactly right, Ali.
Remember the work going in to show that
the spike protein, especially the receptor binding domain
of the spike protein, is the target of
any vaccine strategy against the coronavirus, whether it's
SARS or SARS-2, which is the cause
of COVID-19.
That was work that was funded in our
lab all through the 2010s and possibly even
earlier than that.
So that was a decade of research funded
by the NIH.
And then all of the research that led
to the Nobel Prize at the University of
Pennsylvania, scientists for mRNA research, that was 15
years of research.
So unfortunately, the American people too often have
the impression that mRNA vaccines arose out of
nowhere, and it didn't.
There was 15 years of significant support from
the National Institutes of Health that funded two
convergent lines, one for showing the spike protein
is a target for coronaviruses, and second, how
to shape the mRNA as a vaccine strategy.
A vaccine strategy, not a gene therapy, a
vaccine strategy.
And of course, he is singing for his
supper here because he's afraid that Bobby the
Op may just defund his research.
Well, what we learned from talking to you
all those years ago and since then is
all that we don't know about biology, about
chemistry, about disease.
My argument is, that's okay.
It's okay if everybody watching the show doesn't
know what the NIH does.
It's okay if you don't know what clinical
trials are going on out there.
Allie Velshi from MSNBC.
Velshi, Velshi.
Oh, Velshi, that's a voice I've heard.
Velshi, Velshi.
The fact that you can target them because
people don't know what they are and that
the government can get away with impunity and
saying we're cutting all of this research.
You shouldn't have to know what it is.
You do have to know that important work
is being done.
Important work.
Well, and not only that, Allie, you're absolutely
right, but the other aspect is now with
this mRNA having proof of concept that it
works for infectious diseases.
It doesn't work.
It works.
It doesn't work.
Proof of work.
It's like Bitcoin.
Proof of work.
We have proof of work that it works.
Proof of work.
It works.
Safe and effective.
It works.
Well, and not only that, Allie, you're absolutely
right, but the other aspect is now with
this mRNA having proof of concept that it
works for infectious diseases.
Now we're turning it to cancer therapeutics.
Oh, yeah, of course.
Yes, problem, reaction, solution.
So there was a recent report that an
mRNA vaccine is showing a lot of promise
in pancreatic cancer, you know, in the past
has been such a devastating condition that's taken
the lives of so many of my friends
and colleagues over the years.
We're now at Baylor looking at...
People, as you know, that had pancreatic cancer,
I'd say that's something wrong with that group.
With that group.
My friends and colleagues over the years, we're
now at Baylor looking at the possibility of
creating an mRNA for triple negative breast cancer.
So again, this is going to be the
next generation of cancer therapeutics and we can't
now cut that off.
And then we have other pandemic threats coming
down the line.
There's this thing called H5N1 that's affecting cattle
and poultry and now there's been 70 human
cases so far.
There's no human to human transmission.
Not yet.
But that could happen.
And it could happen over the next couple
of years.
And so we're going to need new vaccines
for that.
And that can only come through support from
the National Institutes of Health.
I love the conflagration, the confusion about vaccines
and therapies.
And this guy is a ghoul.
And he's a total ghoul.
But why does the NIH have to be...
I thought drug companies, pharmaceutical companies, vaccine manufacturers
and all the rest can do their own
damn research.
Thank you.
Very good point.
Because that's the research side.
Then there's the political side.
And when I say that, I'm referring to
the measles situation we've got in the United
States.
And we've not talked about a measles outbreak
in this country for a very long time.
Largely something that people thought was eradicated.
An outbreak.
It doesn't take much to shift the political
winds to cause people to say, I don't
need vaccines, they're dangerous, they're going to cause
autism or whatever the case is.
In some cases, those concerns are rooted in
some valid fears.
And in some cases, like MMR, they're simply
not.
And yet we have a head of HHS
who suggests that there may be other ways
to deal with measles.
Yeah, like getting it?
Just a thought?
Yeah, and it's not the kind of message
we want to get out.
I'm here in Texas where the measles epidemic...
I'm sorry.
An epidemic?
Epidemic.
Adjective.
Affecting or tending to affect a disproportionately large
number of individuals within a population.
This is not an epidemic.
It's also not an outbreak.
It's some kids with measles.
Yeah, and it's not the kind of message
we want to get out.
I'm here in Texas where the measles epidemic
is pretty serious business, where at least 250
known cases and some of my colleagues in
West Texas are telling me that number may
be considerably higher.
And the one thing you can't hide is
the 34 hospitalizations.
Uh-oh, there it is again.
Now, you called this out a couple of
shows back and I say, well, that was
just a mistake.
But I think you're right now.
You are correct.
I can't argue.
Thank you.
I was correct.
Can't argue with your logic.
Yep.
They are...
You say deaths and then you correct yourself.
They are planting it.
It's another...
It's a trick.
West Texas are telling me that number may
be considerably higher.
And the one thing you can't hide is
the 34 hospitalizations in Texas right now because
of measles.
Measles is a serious illness that causes measles
pneumonia.
It causes...
Measles pneumonia.
That is good.
It causes measles croup.
It causes permanent neurologic injury.
Measles ticks.
Deafness and...
Measles Tourette's.
And this is what's racing through the unvaccinated
populations.
In the state of Texas.
Racing through the unvaccinated population.
And the only way to slow this epidemic
down right now is to vaccinate our population.
Do catch up vaccination campaigns.
You can even vaccinate individuals.
That's patently false.
It's not the only way.
There's many ways.
Like letting everybody get the measles.
It's not the only way.
We've been exposed to the virus.
If you vaccinate within 72 hours, that has
to be all hands on deck.
And...
Wait a minute.
You can vaccinate within 72 hours of getting
the measles and then it'll cure you?
That's not true.
No.
Vaccinate our population.
Do catch up vaccination campaigns.
You can even vaccinate individuals who have been
exposed to the virus.
If you vaccinate within 72 hours, that has
to be all hands on deck.
All hands on deck.
I don't know.
I'm really head scratching what...
All hands on deck.
Quick, quick, quick.
All hands on deck.
I don't know.
I'm really head scratching what our Health and
Human Services Secretary is saying.
He's starting to talk about vitamin A as
a preventative.
It's not.
It's crazy.
Decinitis is a steroid.
I don't know where that comes from.
The overwhelming message needs to be to vaccinate
our population.
Stop it.
And as long as we have an unvaccinated
population in Texas, this virus will continue to
race through it.
I think of it like a hurricane over
warm Caribbean waters.
As long as there's warm water, that hurricane
will continue.
It's the same with an unvaccinated population.
It's a hurricane.
Unvaccinated population is like a hurricane.
Wow.
I have no words.
There's nothing you can say.
No, it's just insane.
All right, take us home, Joe.
Uh, you mean with a, uh.
With a clip.
Just end it up with a clip.
I got, okay, it's a two-parter.
This is the DEI.
Okay, yes, I'm just telling you we're going
long.
I don't want to go long.
Let me just play something short.
Yeah, play something short.
Couldn't be any shorter than this.
I like to know how this works, but
Mexico's captured the FBI's most wanted guy.
The White House announced the capture of another
fugitive from the FBI's 10 most wanted list.
The statement says the fugitive is called Francisco
Javier Mambadales and that he's a senior leader
of the brutal MS-13 gang.
He'll be extradited from Mexico to face charges
in the United States.
Oh, that's easy.
The Mexican gangs don't want terrorists.
Well, here.
They don't want that guy.
We don't want this guy.
This guy's no good.
Take him.
Yeah, take him.
I'm going to show my support by donating
to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, we are going a little bit long,
but it's good because we've got Commodores.
We've got tons of birthdays.
Commodores again.
Yeah, the Commodores are stepping up, man.
They're stepping up.
We love it.
It's about time.
We love the Commodores.
Brian Carucci stepped up in Scottsdale, Arizona with
$133.33. Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee.
One, two, three, four, five.
Ah, he's from Mercy Me.
There's your boys.
Oh, yeah.
Hey.
Nathan.
Hey.
Good to hear from you.
Yeah.
Franklin, Tennessee.
That's right.
Tennessee's a music place.
It's Music City, USA, baby.
Brendan Forcade.
Forcade in Poulsbo, Washington.
$100.
Anyone who gets a chance, go through that
town.
It's quite cute.
Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina.
8008.
There he is.
He's the Archduke of Luna.
Lover of American.
Lover of boobs.
Jason Mayery.
Mayery?
I don't know.
In Wanaki, Wisconsin.
K9FYW, 73.
73.
Donation is 73, 73, 73, 73.
Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
He says the nation's fifth largest cell carrier
is being eaten by the second largest.
I don't even know who is number five.
Dame Becky's up.
69, 69.
She's in Arlington, Washington.
Sir Lineman, 67, 89.
Baron of Southern Chilanoes.
Oh, he's getting surgery next week to remove
a brain tumor the size of a tennis
ball.
Jeez, that's gotta hurt.
Well, we stop right away for karma for
him.
Health karma.
You've got karma.
Not gonna mess around with that.
Kevin O'Brien, Chicago.
6006, small boobs.
Scott Schreiber in Madrid, Maryland.
Oh, I'm sorry.
He's not in Madrid, Maryland.
That's what it says.
But no, it's Madrid, Spain.
Some province or whatever it is.
MD, 57, 98.
Happy Father's Day in Spain from Scott Schreiber
by the Riverside.
Okay, thanks, Scott.
Sir Brofessy in Lancaster, New Mexico.
55, 55.
He's in the White Mountains.
Dean Roker, 55, 10.
Srinivas Murthy in Culpeper, Virginia.
Somebody's pounding something.
Stop the hammering outside.
5273, and it's a happy birthday to Radha
Murthy.
Turning 95.
Ooh, good work.
Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania, 5250.
And now we got to read to the
50s.
It's actually a pretty short list today.
And the $50 donors are another short list.
Chris Cowan in Austin, Texas.
Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
Luke Olson in Alexandria, Virginia.
Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina.
And last, Michael Sikora in New Richmond, Wisconsin.
Want to thank these folks and everybody else
for helping us do show 17.
I don't know what it is.
48.
You don't know how old your grandson is.
Don't know what show it is.
Numbers, numbers.
But you know how to sort the towels.
Thank you to everyone who came in under
$50 for reasons of anonymity.
We never mentioned those.
And remember, you can always put together a
sustaining donation.
You determine the amount.
You determine the frequency.
Go to noagendedonations.com.
Help us out.
And again, thanks to our executive and associate
executive producers for episode 1748.
noagendedonations.com.
Well, Dame Becky turned 73 on March 2nd.
We say happy birthday to her.
Sir Mike turned 74 on the 8th.
Dame Stacy, she celebrates tomorrow.
Jesse Scholarud wishes his son Andrew a very
happy birthday.
He'll be 20 on the 24th.
Srinivas Murthy, happy 95th birthday to his mom,
Radha Murthy.
Baroness Sarah Rupert wishes Jonathan Rupert a very
happy 50th.
Sir Polly Bravo, happy birthday to Chauncey.
Long birthday note here from Claire Hedges.
Claire says happy birthday to Piers Chitley of
Melbourne, Australia.
You are the body of an athlete, the
mind of a stoic, the spirit of a
warrior, and the heart of a poet.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best
podcasting in the universe.
We've got Sir Mike Baronet, Sir Mike Baronet,
Sir Mike, who upped his support to the
show of over $1,000 or more.
So he becomes Sir Mike Baron of the
Great Katy Prairie, protectorate of the Gulf Coast
of Texas.
Dame Becky Baronettas Dame Becky becomes Dame Becky
Baroness of the Great Katy Prairie, protectorate of
the Gulf Coast of Texas.
And Baron Dude Named Jeff becomes Viscount Dude
Named Jeff.
Thank you all so much for the extra
support.
We really appreciate it.
Now we have a couple of Commodores that
we can welcome.
They will receive their official certificate as always.
We are very proud to welcome the following
Commodores.
Sir Animus of Dogpats and Lower Slumovia.
Sir Mike of the Great Katy Prairie.
Dame Becky of the Great Katy Prairie.
Chap Williams and Ryan Schubert.
All of you are now official No Agenda
Commodores.
Commodores arriving.
And go to noagenderings.com.
Pick up your official Commodore certificate by sending
us an address.
That'll be interesting for Sir Animus of Dogpats
and Lower Slumovia.
I'm very curious where he's going to pick
up his Commodore certificate.
You never know.
Two knights to bring up today.
Bring up your knight blade, John.
We got two knights.
Here you go.
No, that's beautiful.
Hey, Scott Lamont and Jonathan Rupert.
Both of you hop up on the podium.
You are about to become knights of the
No Agenda Roundtable.
Thanks to your support in the show of
$1,000 or more.
I'm very proud to pronounce you KB as
Sir Scott, the White Knight of Pottersville Village
in Somerset, TX.
And Sir Jonathan Rupert.
For you, we have Hookers and Blow, Red
Boys and Chardonnay.
Along with that, by request, Caymus, Cabernet Sauvignon
with salt and vinegar almonds.
Also, we've got Rubenesque, Ruben and Rosé, Geishas
and Sake, Vodka and Vanilla, Bongheads and Bourbon.
We've got Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale
and Gerbils, Fresh Milk and Pablum.
And as always at the end of the
table, Mutton and Me.
Both of you head over to No Agenda
Rings as well.
Watch out for those Commodores.
You don't want to bump into them.
And you can take a look at that
handsome Signet Ring, which is your knight ring
for good, forever for keeps.
And along with that, you get some wax
because it's a Signet Ring.
So you can seal your important correspondence.
And also a certificate of authenticity, of course.
And thank you.
Thank you for being and becoming knights of
the No Agenda Roundtable.
No Agenda Meetups!
One of the best parts of being part
of No Agenda Nation is going to a
meetup.
This is where you meet the people who
will be your first responders in an emergency.
These are producer organized.
You can find them at noagendameetups.com.
They are the people who bring you connection
and protection.
And this is exactly what took place at
the North Idaho Sanity Brigade Meetup.
This is the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.
And we are in the moment.
It sure shocked a Jew here.
My dad is one of the highest paid
nutritionists in North Idaho.
But for some reason, nobody believes him when
he says he has bigorexia.
Sir Donald with the fire bottles, trying to
figure out why I'm the only one here
who has programmed a vacuum tube computer.
It's Lloyd the Brewer and the newest member
of the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.
Just want to say thank you for what
you do and see you tomorrow morning.
Adam, good pronunciation of Coeur d'Alene.
I don't got anything to say.
That was my son, Quincy.
This is Sir Ducifer finishing up a six
day snowboard run.
Wow.
Hanging out with the North Idaho Sanity Brigade
in the morning.
Sir Ellie Fonts here in the morning.
This is Brian from West Falls, soon to
be Sir of Stable Storefront.
A couple suggestions for a show title.
Credibility Flambe.
Perhaps the end of show ISO.
Dvorak is a fraud.
Bring back real ISOs.
That's my crew right there, man.
Nice to see Sir Ducifer.
There's a lot of famous people in that
one.
Yeah, we got Sir Donald with the fire
bottles.
That was very good.
Remember to include your servers in these reports,
please.
We got a couple of meetups taking place
today.
Underway as we speak, the Central Wisconsin WowSaw
in Skonis.
That's in Schofield, Wisconsin.
The It's Cold as Hot Tucson meetup underway
at Canyon's Crown in Tucson, Arizona.
The Denver Spring Equinox meetup kicks off in
just about an hour and a half from
now at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado.
Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday.
This is their fourth anniversary.
That'll be this evening at Edge Tavern in
Charlotte, North Carolina.
And tomorrow, the Round Rock Roundup, 6.33
here in Texas.
Round Rock, Texas.
Cork & Barrel on Saturday.
The City of Fountains meetup at two o
'clock at Burg & Barrel in Overland Park,
Kansas.
And on Sunday, our next show day, the
Dems Ides of March Indy No Agenda meetup,
three o'clock at St. Joseph Brewery and
Public House in Indianapolis, Indiana.
That's always a big group.
We always look forward to your meetup reports.
Many more on the calendar.
All of these meetups, again, are scheduled and
produced by producers.
Go hang out.
Figure out who else is listening.
You will always enjoy a No Agenda meetup.
In fact, it's like chips.
You eat one, you can't stop at all.
Go to noagendameetups.com if you can't find
one near you.
Start one yourself.
It's easy and always a party.
Yeah, baby.
Always like a party.
And now we come to the phony baloney
iso competition that John is just cheating and
we want real isos.
So I'm going to play some real isos
and then you can play your cheats, okay?
So here's my first one.
And so there we are.
That's too muddled.
Here's another one.
Yet again, I find myself amazed.
Yeah, didn't like the cutoff.
Here's my favorite.
Hey, you can't be my age.
You're gonna be a lot different.
That was you.
Yeah, I figured.
Okay.
Yeah, all right.
Come up with your phone.
So Mimi said to me, she challenged me.
She says, you know, you've been caught.
Now you got to try to get the
thing to do some street sounding, some ghetto.
Something that's a little different.
Oh, wait, wait.
So you're not doing isos.
You're once again doing...
No, I'm doing the same isos because I
couldn't get...
I tried to get everybody on the list.
I think if I upgrade my subscription to...
No, that's not an iso.
That's an AI phony baloney game.
But the phony baloney, if I could get...
I wanted to go, yo, yo, yo, what
up, dope show.
It can't do that?
No.
And everything works out except the dope show.
It won't say dope show.
Okay, all right.
So what we're going to do now, we're
not going to call it isos.
We're going to call it the agentic AI
segment.
And I will see...
I'm not going to compete with you on
who can make better AI voices.
Yeah.
Okay.
The show evolves, you know, it's...
Yeah, okay, but we can't call it an
iso.
No, I just called it an iso for
the purposes of the list, so you can
find it on the list.
So I got three.
All right, what do you got?
I got done.
We're done, now go home.
Yeah.
Great.
I give up.
Another great show.
That sounded pretty AI.
That's a fail.
And that guy couldn't do yo, yo, yo,
what up?
No.
Which is incredibly white of you, but okay,
I digress.
Yeah, of course it is.
I'm white.
Hello.
And the final one?
Sexy.
Another show that exudes sexiness.
Yes.
You're losing your touch, man.
You know, now I've lost...
Let me hear this one.
We're done, now go home.
I kind of like that one the best.
Yeah, use that one.
All right.
And now everybody, it's time for everybody's highlight
of the program.
This is John C.
Dvorak's tip of the day.
Today's show is for free photo editing software.
GIMP.
It's the GIMP.
To compete with GIMP.
Oh, okay.
Because GIMP is actually quite hard to use.
It's very powerful, but very difficult to use.
So I'm having fun with this other one.
And there's a bunch...
It turns out there'd be tons of them
out there.
Not tons, but maybe a dozen.
Very usable, free products.
Are you going to alternative.net?
No, I dug this one up through some
more deeper research.
Okay.
This is Photo Demon.
Photo Demon?
Photo Demon.
And I would recommend people get it and
play with it.
And you get it at Photo...
Don't get it anywhere, but the main...
I went to GitHub to find their real
source of it, which is photodemon.org and
download it from there.
Because everyone else is...
You know, you can't trust these download sites
anymore.
No, that was a previous tip.
Spyware with their downloads.
But photodemon.org, it's usually...
I think they're on version 12.
And I would recommend playing with it if
you like to play with some photo editing
stuff.
Oh, that's a pretty good tip.
I might even follow that tip myself.
Yeah, give it a shot.
I'll give it a shot.
There you go, everybody.
That is your John C.
DuBois tip of the day.
tipoftheday.net, noagendafun.com.
Thank you very much, Dana Brunetti, for creating
that.
What would we do without you?
What would we do?
Hey, that's it for your No Agenda Show.
We are happy to present it to you.
We do this as a public service.
We're value for value.
So if you get anything out of this,
send us some value back.
Time, talent, treasure.
noagendadonations.com is where you can do that.
We've got end of show mixes.
I've got a...
I pulled up an oldie which is from
2016.
It's a compilation which just runs for about
a minute 20.
I think you'll like it.
We got Brian Longenecker, classic.
And L.O.B.G., another Vladimir Putin
classic.
What I'm trying to say here is these
are old mixes.
We need some new mixes, people.
Send us new mixes.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas hill country here in picturesque Fredericksburg in
the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, which is just
as picturesque in some way or other, I'm
John C.
DuBois.
Yeah, except we don't have any homeless.
Here.
We dropped them off at the Kerr County
line.
That's what we do with them.
Coming up next on the No Agenda stream,
we've got too many go mugs from a
walk through the mind until next Sunday, everybody.
Adios, mofos.
Hui, hui.
And such.
noagendadonations.com 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Victoria Kagan, Noodleman.
Yeah, let's get social.
Give it up.
Mary McCoy.
Yes, the beaches are back open.
Isis uses social media like a job fair.
Trouble soul, come to the caliphate.
Come to the caliphate.
Because we and our allies sent 600 tons
of weapons into that civil war.
You have people, mosques being vandalized, kids being
executed, being executed.
Kids will be back one day to fight
our own weapons.
They were known as normal teenagers.
They punish us for doing things that we
take for granted.
Normal teenagers.
We are killing them and we will continue
killing ISIS terrorists that pose a threat to
us.
We're very good at that.
Good at that.
Jamila is it funny or is it important?
We are finally going to lead again.
You see what's happening.
You see the rockets going up left and
right.
You haven't seen that for a long time.
Very soon we're going to Mars.
You wouldn't have been going Mars if my
opponent won.
That I can tell you.
Space Force.
With Space Force.
Air power.
Space power.
We are finally going to lead again.
We are finally going to.
We are finally going to lead again.
You see what's happening.
You see the rockets going up left and
right.
You haven't seen that for a long time.
Very soon we're going to Mars.
Space Force.
Air power.
Space power.
Force.
Space Force.
Space power.
We're done now go home.