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I get it, you're a boomer.

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Adam Curry, John C.

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Dvorak.

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It's Sunday, March 16, 2025.

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This is your award-winning Gimbal Nation Media

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Assassination Episode 1747.

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This is no agenda.

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Lightly toasted but not burned and broadcasting live

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from the heart of the Texas Hill Country

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here in FEMA Region Number 6.

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In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley where I should

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take the phone off the hook, I'm John

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C.

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Dvorak.

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One more still.

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In the morning.

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Was it ringing?

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Was that the problem?

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It was ringing?

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Ring-a-ling, ding-a-ling?

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Probably will.

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Ring-a-ling, ding-a-ling?

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I was thinking the phrase phone off the

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hook.

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Oh, no one knows what that means.

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Boomer?

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Even my friends, my friends.

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Do you know what it means?

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Well, of course I know what it means.

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Even my friends are calling me boomer.

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What's the derivative?

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The derivative?

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What do you mean?

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I mean what, phone off, what, OK.

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OK, well back in the day you had

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a phone that had the mouthpiece hanging on

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a hook.

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On a hook, yes.

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On a hook, and when it was, you

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hung it up on the hook, then the

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phone was disengaged from the network and ready

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to accept calls.

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But if you take it off the hook,

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it would engage and you would get a

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beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.

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I don't even remember what the busy signal

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sounds like.

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Do-do-do-do-do-do-do, something

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like that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, everybody, welcome to Boomer Talk with Adam

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and John.

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I am literally, people who are my friends

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are now calling me boomer.

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It doesn't even matter when you were born.

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At a certain point, it's just like, oh,

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he's 60, he's got to be a boomer.

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Boomers should just be 60.

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It's because you're so knowledgeable.

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That's what it is.

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Thank you.

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Yes, good point.

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But it kind of ruins the show.

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How do you know all these things?

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Oh, I get it.

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You're a boomer.

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That's a good point.

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Oh, wow.

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I'd never thought of it that way.

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You've once again changed my perception.

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Thank you.

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That feels much better.

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You're very welcome.

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The, well, I don't know if you heard

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the news.

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Tonight, we're continuing our coverage of the massive

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Crab Apple Fire burning in Gillespie County.

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That's 10 miles north of Fredericksburg.

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According to the latest update, the wildfire is

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over 8,600 acres and is 0%

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contained.

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The Zion Lutheran Church on Main Street in

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Fredericksburg is hosting all evacuees.

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Crews are encouraging everyone who lives between Highway

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16 North and FM 1631 in Ranch Road

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1323 and Ranch Road 2721 to evacuate.

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Well, this was rather exciting.

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Yeah, I got a couple of notes.

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We're hoping you're going to be okay.

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And then I hear it's 10 miles away.

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And somebody says 9,000 acres on fire.

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To me, California, that's a minor nuisance.

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Get out the garden hose.

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And 10 miles is a long haul.

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Now, had the wind shifted, we would have

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been in trouble.

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But this really started, this even started on

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Friday.

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We've been under red flag watch.

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Do you have a lot of brush around

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your house?

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You know, we have the grass is dry.

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We still have all over Texas a lot

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of dead trees from the snowpocalypse.

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You know, removing a dead tree is not

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cheap.

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It's several hundred dollars per tree.

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You can get some good burning wood.

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So there's good burning wood literally sticking out

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of the ground.

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And the wind was, you know, 40 gusting

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Luckily, it was going eastward.

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Otherwise, we would have been in trouble.

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Now, many of our friends, many people we

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know had to evacuate.

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Most have been okay.

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We're not exactly sure of the damage.

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But some homes have burned down.

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I've always, whenever I drive through Texas and

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I see, you know, like 45 acres for

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sale, I'm like, I don't know if I'd

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want to live there with my farmhouse.

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For this very reason.

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But man, it started on Friday because we

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have pretty good, you know, the church ladies

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group text group is pretty good.

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So Tina says, oh, this is Friday.

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Tina says, oh, man, there's smoke over by

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Laura Logan's place.

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Now, that's just down the road from here.

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So I grab a fire extinguisher like I

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know what I'm doing, jump in the car,

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speed over there.

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There's her husband, Joe, kind of like walking

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around sheepishly.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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Something caught fire and we put it out

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with the hose.

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But that's how kind of ready I was

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for something to happen.

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And then we were coming home.

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We went actually went shopping yesterday near San

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And we start, you know, the phone starts

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blowing up.

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away from home and you could see the

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smoke.

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It was quite large.

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course, our roof was painted blue.

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So I had no fear of anything.

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But, man, small-town America is great in

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these situations.

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There were kids, you know, like 19-year

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-olds putting horse trailers onto their truck, you

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know, hooking them up to their trucks, going

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out there, getting horses out.

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Austin was blanketed in smoke.

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And that's 80 miles away.

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And so, yeah, so we're okay.

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And I appreciate everyone asking.

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And kudos to the not just the helicopter

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pilots who do with the big bucket, but

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they have these water planes where the whole

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plane is basically one big bucket of water.

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And they were taking off three at a

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time from our airport.

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That's pretty gnarly if you've got, you know,

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40-knot winds, crosswind gusting 50.

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come back, fill up again, go out.

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So it was pretty intense for a little

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bit there.

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away.

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So we were safe.

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But, you know, it's typical.

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Everyone hears Fredericksburg and they think, Curry's on

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fire.

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You've been on fire for years.

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Yeah, there it is.

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There it is.

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So, but I'll have more of a report

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on Thursday if there's anything to let people

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know about.

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But it was not, you know, we don't

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need FEMA.

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Everyone else jumped in and just worked together.

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Oh, except for the 50 delusional Dems who

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throughout the whole afternoon were still protesting Elon

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Musk on the corner across from City Hall.

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They're like, get out of Ukraine, help Ukraine,

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go away Elon.

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Meanwhile, people are rolling up to the fire

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station with water and all kinds of stuff.

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And they're just out there protesting, like completely

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delusional.

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It was really quite interesting.

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Elon.

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The delusional Dems, man.

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It's something to behold, it really is.

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So, yeah, there's, you know, there's a lot

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going on.

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Yeah, well, let's talk about, first of all,

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they're bombing the hell out of the Houthis.

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Yeah, I got some clips.

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What you got on the Houthis?

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I got the BBC clip and then I've

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got two analysis clips from the BBC.

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From a different report.

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This, again, is the BBC World Service.

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Ah, yes.

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Which I've been booked on because it's the

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short wave stuff, you know.

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Let me see.

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Coming to you live from London, this is

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the BBC World Service.

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Toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot, toot.

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Yeah, that's it.

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And actually, they do make that did it,

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did it, did it song.

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I know they do.

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The United States has launched large-scale strikes

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against Houthi targets in Yemen.

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Donald Trump said...

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Wow, where'd this guy come from?

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Isn't this the guy?

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Dude, he's got the biggest balls in the

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business.

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Yeah, this is the guy.

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I heard this guy.

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He's not on all the time, but when

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he's on, he's, like, giving it to you.

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Whoa.

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BBC World Service.

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The United States has launched large-scale strikes

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against Houthi targets in Yemen.

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Donald Trump said he had ordered decisive and

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powerful military action.

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The Houthi-run health ministry said at least

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13 people were killed and nine more wounded.

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Merlin Thomas reports now from Washington.

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The American president warned that hell would rain

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down on the Houthis unless they stopped attacking

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commercial shipping routes in and around the Red

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Sea.

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He also warned Iran that he would hold

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it fully accountable for the actions of its

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allies.

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The Houthis have been targeting maritime routes, saying

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they're acting in solidarity with Palestinians over Israel's

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war with Hamas in Gaza.

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This latest move to target the group in

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Yemen appears to be Donald Trump's opening salvo

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to try to force Iran to the negotiating

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table over a nuclear agreement.

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President Trump has previously said that he'd like

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to make a deal with Tehran to limit

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their nuclear capabilities.

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Now, before we go to the analysis, you

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want to hear Rubio from This Morning on

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CBS Face the Nation?

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Mr. Secretary, for our audience, just to explain,

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this Red Sea area is a really important

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transit point for global shipping.

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The Houthis out of Yemen have been disrupting

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transit there for some time.

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President Trump cited these concerns when he announced

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the strikes.

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I'm wondering, how long will this campaign last

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and will it involve ground forces?

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Well, first of all, the problem here is

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that this is a very important shipping lane

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and in the last year and a half,

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the last 18 months, the Houthis have struck

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or attacked 174 naval vessels of the United

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States, attacking the U.S. Navy directly 174

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times, and 145 times they've attacked commercial shipping.

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So we basically have a band of pirates

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with guided-precision anti-ship weaponry and exacting

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a toll system in one of the most

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important shipping lanes in the world.

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That's just not sustainable.

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We are not going to have these people

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controlling which ships can go through and which

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ones cannot.

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And so your question is, how long will

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this go on?

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It will go on until they no longer

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have the capability to do that.

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I'll just play one more.

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This is my favorite thing.

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Rubio cracks me up.

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He'll crack you up even more with this

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because we're doing the world a favor, people.

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Well, what does U.S. intelligence tell us

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at this point?

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Because the U.S. had been conducting strikes

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for some time but has not stopped the

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Houthis.

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So what's going to be different right now?

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Do you have more fidelity in the intelligence

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that would make this more successful?

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Well, those strikes were retaliation strikes.

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So they launched one missile, we hit the

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missile launcher, or we sent something to do

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it.

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This is not a message.

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This is not a one-off.

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This is an effort to deny them the

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ability to continue to constrict and control shipping.

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And this is not going to happen.

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We're not going to have these guys, these

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people with weapons, able to tell us where

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our ships can go, where the ships of

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all the world can go, by the way.

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It's not just the U.S. We're doing

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the world a favor.

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We're doing the entire world a favor by

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getting rid of these guys and their ability

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to strike global shipping.

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That's the mission here, and it will continue

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until that's carried out.

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This is an effort to take away their

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ability to control global shipping in that part

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of the world.

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That's just not going to happen anymore.

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So this will continue until that's finished.

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It could involve ground raids?

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Well, those are military decisions to be made,

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but I've heard no talk of ground raids.

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I don't think there's a necessity for it

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right now.

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I can tell you that as of last

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night, some of the key people involved in

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those missile launches are no longer with us,

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and I can tell you that some of

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the facilities that they use are no longer

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existing, and that will continue.

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Look, it's bottom line, easy way to understand

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it, okay?

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These guys are able to control what ships

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can go through there.

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They've attacked the U.S. Navy 174 times.

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They've attacked the United States Navy.

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We're not going to have people sitting around

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with the missiles attacking the U.S. Navy.

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It's not going to happen, not under President

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Trump.

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I particularly like the constant use of these

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people or those people.

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And I want Pete Hegseth.

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He's othering.

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He's othering.

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He is othering them.

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Can you play the beginning of that clip

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again because there's a little phrase in there

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I got to kick out of?

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Yeah.

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The president also referenced Iran in his statement.

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Iran provides some— Oh, sorry, that's not it.

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This is it.

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Here we go.

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Well, what does U.S. intelligence tell us

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at this point?

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Because the U.S. had been conducting strikes

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for some time but has not stopped the

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Houthis.

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Why is she laughing?

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Did you hear her laughing?

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There's a little laugh tale in there.

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Hold on a second.

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Conducting strikes for some time but has not

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stopped the Houthis.

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So what's going to be different right now?

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Do you have more fidelity in the intelligence

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that would make this more successful?

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Yes, we have more fidelity.

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Fidelity in the intelligence.

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It's hi-fi.

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What kind of code is that?

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We got hi-fi intelligence, baby.

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Hi-fi.

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Hi-fi intel.

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Hi-fi—why don't you put that as his

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show title?

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I just wrote it down.

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Hi-fi intel.

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Hi-fi intel.

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I knew I'd get it eventually.

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Fidelity in intelligence.

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Yes, hi-fi intel.

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So that's one of those—it's like a Silicon

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Valley phrase, only this is for that community.

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That's in line with—ah, what's that phrase that

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Buzzkill Jr. was using all the time?

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Oh, right.

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I forgot what that is, too.

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The movement, the direction of travel.

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Yeah, the velocity or something.

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No, it wasn't velocity.

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Vector.

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The thought vector.

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Thought vector, some crazy crap.

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There's another one I've got to write down.

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Thought vector.

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Thought vector.

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I like thought vector.

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We should just use it.

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Yes, because it sounds— How's the fidelity of

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your intelligence today, Adam?

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Well, the thought vector of this boomer is

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really deep, John.

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Let me just tell you.

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Wow.

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The direction of my thinking that—I can't remember

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what the directionally— I know, I called him

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out on it at the dinner table, too.

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I wish I remembered.

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Oh, well.

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Yes, we're— The trolls are asleep.

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The more boomery you get, the more you

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do this stuff.

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The more you forget.

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And you forget.

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It's too much.

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I forget all those things.

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So, let's go back to the BBC and

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start the analysis part one.

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That ceasefire, of course, is now becoming much

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more— Oh, I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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This is part one.

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The defense analyst, Jonathan Marcus, told us about

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the strikes.

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They seem to have involved jets, armed unmanned

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aerial vehicles, drones.

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They've been striking, according to the Americans, radars,

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weapons stores, missiles, air defenses, that kind of

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thing.

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But also a clear indication from the Americans

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that this could be just the start of

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a mini air campaign, if you like.

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This doesn't seem to be just a one

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-off set of strikes.

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Mr. Trump seems to be serious about really

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delivering a significant blow.

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But one also has to say that the

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Houthis have obviously been struck many times before.

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In the Biden administration, the United Kingdom and

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the United States attacked Houthi targets a number

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of times in response to the Houthis' strikes

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on commercial shipping in the Red Sea.

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And whilst they hit targets and the damage,

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I'm sure, was done, it didn't seem to

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deter the Houthis from sticking to their guns,

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as it were.

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So we'll have to see now whether the

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different administration, an administration that is perhaps less

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predictable, perhaps more erratic in some ways, whether

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that concentrates their minds any better.

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As you say, this is a different administration,

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the biggest U.S. military operation in the

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Middle East since Donald Trump took office.

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Why now?

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Well, it's the biggest military operation since Trump

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took office, full stop.

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I think now for a number of reasons.

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The Houthis are firm allies of Hamas in

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the Gaza Strip.

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Now, those attacks against commercial shipping largely halted

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in the wake of the ceasefire, if you

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want to call it that, in Gaza.

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Hmm.

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I like the erratic nature of people's understanding

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of our president.

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Like, the guy's crazy.

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You don't know what he's going to do

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next.

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That's actually an image.

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It's a plus.

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It's a plus.

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It is a plus.

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In fact, if you follow it closely enough,

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I think that we, as we do, and

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others, it's nothing surprising about any of it.

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No, no, it's right on cue, really, if

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you think about it.

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Anyway, onward with part two.

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That ceasefire, of course, is now becoming much

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more afraid and much more uncertain.

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But also, particularly in the last few weeks,

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the Houthis fired on an American F-16

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jet, missing it.

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It looks as though they probably downed a

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U.S. Reaper drone, unmanned aerial vehicle, a

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couple of weeks or so, 10 days, a

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couple of weeks ago.

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I'm not entirely sure the precise date.

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And it seems to have been those attacks

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against American weapon systems that focused mines in

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Washington, and President Trump ultimately signed off approval

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for these attacks that have taken place overnight.

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How does this fit in with Mr. Trump's

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Iran strategy?

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Well, it's very much, as he sees it,

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part and parcel of that.

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I mean, to the American administration, really all

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American administrations, the Houthis are seen as in

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some sense acting, if not at the behest

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of Iran, certainly clear allies of Tehran.

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I think many analysts would argue that the

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Houthis are, to some extent, a much more

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independent actor than just simply a stooge for

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the Iranians.

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But Mr. Trump pulled no punches.

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I mean, in one of his usual sort

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of capitalized pronouncements, he turned to Iran after

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dealing with the Houthis and said that support

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for the Houthi terrorists, as he put it,

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must end immediately in capitals.

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Don't threaten the American people, their president, or

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worldwide shipping lanes.

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If you do, beware, capitalized again, because America

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will hold you fully accountable.

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So not just a threat to the Houthis

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by these air attacks, but an implicit and

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direct threat to Tehran that Washington holds Iran

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in some way responsible for the Houthis' future

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actions.

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I think this also may be a part

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of bringing down the cost of living, because

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that shipping lane, a lot of ships have

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said, no, we're just not going to do

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it.

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We're going to go around the long way.

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Yes, this is true.

550
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,980
You know, the Jones Brothers syndicate is starting

551
00:19:19,980 --> 00:19:21,200
doing something new.

552
00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:25,680
Steve Jones, Sunday is a pretty important day

553
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,840
in mainstream media in America, because everyone, oh,

554
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,680
we got these important Sunday shows.

555
00:19:30,820 --> 00:19:32,080
Oh, it's a very important Sunday show.

556
00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:35,660
So he recorded some more about this.

557
00:19:35,980 --> 00:19:39,740
Mike Waltz, he's the envoy, is he not,

558
00:19:39,820 --> 00:19:40,980
to the Middle East?

559
00:19:40,980 --> 00:19:46,020
Waltz, isn't he the negotiator?

560
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,860
I should have a chart hanging here of

561
00:19:50,860 --> 00:19:51,580
all these guys.

562
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,160
With yarn and sticky pins.

563
00:19:53,620 --> 00:19:54,500
Yarn and pins.

564
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,140
He was on with Martha Raddatz.

565
00:19:57,300 --> 00:19:59,620
And Mr. Waltz, let me read from what

566
00:19:59,620 --> 00:20:01,880
President Trump said on Truth Social.

567
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,740
He said, to Iran, support for the Houthi

568
00:20:04,740 --> 00:20:07,360
terrorists must and immediately do not threaten the

569
00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,700
American people or worldwide shipping lanes.

570
00:20:09,700 --> 00:20:12,860
If you do, beware, because America will hold

571
00:20:12,860 --> 00:20:13,880
you fully accountable.

572
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,440
Does that mean direct military action on Iran

573
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,200
is possible?

574
00:20:18,460 --> 00:20:18,720
Oh, yeah.

575
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,700
Everyone loves this.

576
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,380
What they need is a national security adviser.

577
00:20:22,860 --> 00:20:23,880
What we need is someone.

578
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,180
I don't think it's in this sport.

579
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,120
Someone has to say Iran is only two

580
00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:28,600
weeks away from the nuclear bomb.

581
00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:30,180
I'm just waiting for that.

582
00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:32,820
All options are always on the table with

583
00:20:32,820 --> 00:20:33,360
the president.

584
00:20:33,660 --> 00:20:34,880
Another phrase.

585
00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:35,280
Yeah.

586
00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:36,520
All options are on the table.

587
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,560
Iran needs to hear him loud and clear.

588
00:20:40,060 --> 00:20:43,200
It is completely unacceptable and it will be

589
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,740
stopped.

590
00:20:44,220 --> 00:20:47,120
The level of support that they've been providing

591
00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:49,780
the Houthis, just like they have Hezbollah, just

592
00:20:49,780 --> 00:20:52,440
like they have the militias in Iraq, Hamas

593
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:52,960
and others.

594
00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:56,360
The difference here is the Houthis have incredibly

595
00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:57,820
sophisticated air defenses.

596
00:20:57,820 --> 00:21:02,240
And they also have anti-shipping, cruise missiles,

597
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,880
drones, sea skimming types.

598
00:21:06,020 --> 00:21:07,360
Anti-shipping drones?

599
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,400
This is a new thing.

600
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,520
Anti-shipping or anti-ship?

601
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,540
I think he meant anti-ship.

602
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,380
And they also have anti-shipping cruise missiles.

603
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,720
We have free shipping and anti-shipping.

604
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,880
Which option do you want?

605
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,060
Free shipping here at Amazon.

606
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:31,060
Sea skimming types of attack drones and other

607
00:21:31,060 --> 00:21:33,400
ballistic missiles even.

608
00:21:34,180 --> 00:21:37,120
They've launched dozens of attacks on multiple warships.

609
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,760
Dozens of attacks.

610
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,880
Over 175 on global commerce.

611
00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:43,480
Sank multiple ships.

612
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,460
I just think the American people need to

613
00:21:45,460 --> 00:21:48,040
understand what has happened here.

614
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,960
The previous administration had a series of feckless

615
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,320
responses.

616
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,500
President Trump is coming in.

617
00:21:55,540 --> 00:21:56,800
Overwhelming force.

618
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,780
We will hold not only the Houthis accountable,

619
00:22:01,060 --> 00:22:03,660
but we're going to hold Iran, their backers

620
00:22:03,660 --> 00:22:04,500
accountable as well.

621
00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:08,200
And if that means they're targeting ships that

622
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,580
they have put in to help.

623
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,340
They're Iranian trainers, IRGC and others.

624
00:22:15,740 --> 00:22:18,420
Intelligence, other things that they have put in

625
00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:21,580
to help the Houthis attack the global economy.

626
00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:24,640
Those targets will be on the table too.

627
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,520
You hear that?

628
00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:26,600
The global economy.

629
00:22:26,740 --> 00:22:27,220
There it is.

630
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,140
There's part of it.

631
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,520
Let's bring down the prices everybody.

632
00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:32,500
Let's shorten up those shipping lanes.

633
00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:35,780
It fits in with the message from Rubio.

634
00:22:35,860 --> 00:22:36,480
Yes, it does.

635
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,520
I got one more here.

636
00:22:37,580 --> 00:22:39,700
The president has said Iran will not be

637
00:22:39,700 --> 00:22:41,680
allowed to have a nuclear weapon.

638
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,340
A week ago, warning that Iran.

639
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,500
Something is going to happen very, very soon

640
00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:50,040
that will solve the problem if there is

641
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,200
no peace deal.

642
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,440
Talking about nuclear weapons.

643
00:22:53,580 --> 00:22:54,860
So what is he talking about?

644
00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:57,580
Is he talking about a possible strike on

645
00:22:57,580 --> 00:22:59,720
the nuclear facilities by Israel?

646
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,400
And would the U.S. join in that?

647
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,940
Yeah, the Jews are going to do it

648
00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:03,980
again for us.

649
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:10,660
Well, what the president has repeatedly said is

650
00:23:10,660 --> 00:23:12,860
that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

651
00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:15,480
All options are on the table to ensure

652
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,720
it does not have one.

653
00:23:17,980 --> 00:23:20,460
And that's all aspects of Iran's program.

654
00:23:20,820 --> 00:23:24,100
That's the missiles, the weaponization, the enrichment.

655
00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:27,980
They can either hand it over and give

656
00:23:27,980 --> 00:23:30,320
it up in a way that is verifiable.

657
00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:34,780
Or they can face a whole series of

658
00:23:34,780 --> 00:23:35,300
other consequences.

659
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,660
But either way, we cannot have a world

660
00:23:38,660 --> 00:23:40,760
with the Ayatollahs with their finger on the

661
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,460
nuclear button.

662
00:23:41,780 --> 00:23:44,660
We cannot have a situation that would result

663
00:23:44,660 --> 00:23:47,520
in an arms race across the Middle East

664
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,080
in terms of nuclear proliferation.

665
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,580
And President Trump is determined, one way or

666
00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:56,040
another, Iran has been offered a way out

667
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,560
of this to make sure that we don't

668
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,120
have a world that can be threatened by

669
00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:03,060
a radical regime.

670
00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:06,340
Not only our ally Israel, but the entire

671
00:24:06,340 --> 00:24:09,400
world that would be threatened by a radical

672
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,780
regime that could destroy not only Israel, but

673
00:24:13,780 --> 00:24:17,280
its neighbors and have the capability to hit

674
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,140
the United States.

675
00:24:18,140 --> 00:24:22,720
We cannot imagine a situation like that, and

676
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,740
we're not going to have it.

677
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,240
We always have to take into account that

678
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,280
we hear from our Iranian friends that America

679
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,720
and Iran pretty much always work together.

680
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,120
The Iranians always like, well, it's a big

681
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:35,520
show.

682
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,700
This could be maybe a saving a face

683
00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:40,900
in a way, and also shutting down those

684
00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:41,840
annoying Houthis.

685
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:45,520
Yeah.

686
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,840
You know, it's like...

687
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,720
It could be something.

688
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,700
But, I mean, there's something that seems to

689
00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:51,680
be triggered by the fact that nobody responded

690
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,880
to Trump's letter.

691
00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:55,100
Right.

692
00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:57,040
Didn't they say that they didn't even receive

693
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:57,240
it?

694
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,580
Must have gotten lost in the mail.

695
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:00,760
Lost in the mail, yeah.

696
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,020
When the President of the United States sends

697
00:25:03,020 --> 00:25:05,020
a letter, does that go through USPS?

698
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,080
Because that could take months internationally.

699
00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:09,200
Well, it's usually...

700
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,880
Our side is pretty quick.

701
00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:13,440
It's when it hits the overseas mail system.

702
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:13,680
Yeah.

703
00:25:14,660 --> 00:25:15,360
Something's very long.

704
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:16,880
Usually stuff gets stolen.

705
00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:20,080
No, I mean, we have not received Willow's

706
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,560
Christmas card, which she sends in November, before

707
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,720
February ever.

708
00:25:26,020 --> 00:25:28,500
So it takes three months.

709
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,980
More than three months.

710
00:25:30,060 --> 00:25:30,160
Yeah.

711
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:30,720
Why is that?

712
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,540
I don't know.

713
00:25:32,340 --> 00:25:34,860
Now, we have enough mail carriers and USPS

714
00:25:34,860 --> 00:25:36,800
professionals that we might be able to get

715
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,700
some information from.

716
00:25:37,740 --> 00:25:39,040
Yeah, maybe one of them will tell us,

717
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,480
but definitely something happens.

718
00:25:41,980 --> 00:25:42,080
Yeah.

719
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,580
Are we maybe looking at each individual piece,

720
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,740
or we don't have enough people?

721
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,200
Well, it's also possible that it's because of

722
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,940
the privatization of the European postal services that

723
00:25:56,940 --> 00:26:00,220
they just suck when it comes to international.

724
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:01,780
It's been pretty...

725
00:26:01,780 --> 00:26:02,820
Yes, I think they did.

726
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,280
Well, they've never...

727
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,240
Our postal service has always been the best

728
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:06,840
in the world.

729
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,020
From what I can tell, I've never heard

730
00:26:09,020 --> 00:26:09,400
of...

731
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,360
I mean, even in Canada, it's a problem

732
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:11,900
up there.

733
00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:13,620
There's jokes.

734
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,320
I mean, it's like running gags about how

735
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,600
long it takes for something to happen.

736
00:26:16,940 --> 00:26:17,740
Except for Newman.

737
00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:22,060
Okay, that fell flat.

738
00:26:22,140 --> 00:26:22,860
You don't remember Newman?

739
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,880
Newman was the postal carrier in the Seinfeld

740
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,180
show.

741
00:26:29,860 --> 00:26:31,040
Yeah, he was horrible.

742
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,840
But he wasn't a Canadian.

743
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,220
No, no, no, no.

744
00:26:34,220 --> 00:26:34,700
That's where it fell flat.

745
00:26:34,820 --> 00:26:36,740
No, you said ours is the best in

746
00:26:36,740 --> 00:26:37,000
the world.

747
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,000
I said, except for Newman.

748
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,040
Oh, except for Newman.

749
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,540
Well, actually, there's also those nasty Federal Express

750
00:26:43,540 --> 00:26:46,700
commercials, if you remember those from about 20

751
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:47,440
years ago.

752
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,060
No.

753
00:26:48,180 --> 00:26:52,240
Where they had the two people yakking, the

754
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,580
two postal service people yakking, and then the

755
00:26:54,580 --> 00:26:57,620
mail kept flopping onto the floor because they

756
00:26:57,620 --> 00:26:59,280
were talking, because they didn't care.

757
00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:01,700
And somebody says, are you anybody here?

758
00:27:01,860 --> 00:27:02,860
You know, that sort of thing.

759
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,280
So it has been derided, but in fact,

760
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,260
it's still pretty good.

761
00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:09,720
Well, I will say, you know, we got

762
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,300
that big box from noagendachocolates.com, from the

763
00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:15,180
Frankenmuth people.

764
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,060
Yeah.

765
00:27:17,420 --> 00:27:19,500
And it was there for a couple weeks

766
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:20,880
at the post office.

767
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,780
We just hadn't been.

768
00:27:22,220 --> 00:27:24,160
And we picked it up, and we opened

769
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,920
it, and the mice had definitely gotten into

770
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:27,260
it.

771
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:28,520
Mice?

772
00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:28,940
Yeah.

773
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,880
From the post office?

774
00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:31,240
Yep.

775
00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:32,220
Yep.

776
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,020
Now, it didn't matter to us.

777
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,240
We were just like, oh, this one still

778
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:36,740
looks okay.

779
00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:37,580
We'll keep that one.

780
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:40,040
We're not throwing any of this stuff out

781
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,120
that hasn't been nibbled at.

782
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,240
It's still good to go.

783
00:27:42,620 --> 00:27:43,940
Well, mice love chocolate.

784
00:27:43,940 --> 00:27:44,580
Chocolate, yeah.

785
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:46,000
Yeah, yeah.

786
00:27:47,820 --> 00:27:50,440
You know, there's been a decloaking of sorts

787
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,700
that happened, of course, on MSNBC of these

788
00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:57,260
town hall issues.

789
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,820
The Republican town halls.

790
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,240
Yeah, with the fake protesters.

791
00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:03,700
Yes.

792
00:28:03,980 --> 00:28:05,640
So I'll play the set up first.

793
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,220
MSNBC?

794
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,700
I thought they'd stick with the program, which

795
00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:12,320
is that all these Republicans are hating on

796
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,260
Trump all of a sudden.

797
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:13,840
No, no.

798
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:16,200
Well, first I'll play the ABC report.

799
00:28:16,380 --> 00:28:18,960
This is the messaging as we're supposed to

800
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,280
receive it, that Republicans are outraged at Doge.

801
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,840
A Republican congressman's town hall erupting into chaos.

802
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,960
Put out.

803
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,680
North Carolina congressman Chuck Edwards getting an earful

804
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,400
on everything from President Trump's tariffs to Elon

805
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,080
Musk's downsizing of the government.

806
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,520
Massive scale.

807
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,400
The town hall contentious from the start.

808
00:28:47,660 --> 00:28:50,700
A man identifying himself as a veteran was

809
00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:53,860
escorted out, screaming profanities at the congressman over

810
00:28:53,860 --> 00:28:55,020
federal job cuts.

811
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:58,220
That right there is the clue, of course,

812
00:28:58,260 --> 00:29:00,780
that these are not Republicans because they are

813
00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:02,180
screaming profanities.

814
00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:04,220
Right, because right now- That's what they

815
00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:04,360
do.

816
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:04,780
Exactly.

817
00:29:04,940 --> 00:29:06,180
That's a giveaway now.

818
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:06,660
It is.

819
00:29:06,740 --> 00:29:08,600
And remember, profanity is the sign of a

820
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,560
weak mind trying to express itself.

821
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,880
The crowd often booing when Musk or Trump

822
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,500
was mentioned.

823
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,760
Like him or not, Elon Musk has brought

824
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,720
a lot of really smart people to Doge.

825
00:29:28,220 --> 00:29:31,460
And- Yeah, that's Republicans, all right.

826
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,360
2,000 people showing up.

827
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,460
Fewer than 400 were allowed in.

828
00:29:35,460 --> 00:29:37,520
Some seemed banging on the door.

829
00:29:42,060 --> 00:29:45,160
Republican leaders have encouraged members not to hold

830
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,140
in-person town halls because of frequent disruptions.

831
00:29:48,380 --> 00:29:51,360
They say Democrats are hiring outside agitators, which

832
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,360
Democrats deny.

833
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,660
Okay, so this is what is so crazy

834
00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:56,980
about this decloaking.

835
00:29:57,460 --> 00:30:01,360
Because the accusation is they're bringing in outside

836
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,980
agitators who they're paying.

837
00:30:04,060 --> 00:30:08,860
And enter on MSNBC with Steele, the former

838
00:30:08,860 --> 00:30:14,160
Republican, Leah Greenberg from the Indivisible Project.

839
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,660
And she is literally going to sit and

840
00:30:16,660 --> 00:30:20,460
say, well, no one's getting paid, but we're

841
00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:21,120
doing it.

842
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,740
Democrats in and out of Congress are outraged

843
00:30:24,740 --> 00:30:26,880
at Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.

844
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,320
Mm-hmm.

845
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:29,980
Mm-hmm.

846
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,940
Mm-hmm.

847
00:30:31,940 --> 00:30:33,000
Mm-hmm.

848
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,980
After he supported a key procedural vote that

849
00:30:35,980 --> 00:30:38,800
eventually led to the passage of a Republican

850
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,400
spending bill, a bill supported by Donald Trump.

851
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,380
Now, the move has exposed fissures in the

852
00:30:44,380 --> 00:30:46,860
Democratic Party as it faces the crucial question

853
00:30:46,860 --> 00:30:49,480
of how to use its limited power to

854
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,880
counter Trump and MAGA Republicans' efforts to remake

855
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,720
the federal government.

856
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,840
New polls show the public beginning to sour

857
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,560
on Trump's policies, and some Democrats see Schumer's

858
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,740
decision as a missed opportunity to win back

859
00:31:03,740 --> 00:31:07,520
voters and capitalize on the disappointment many Americans

860
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,960
are already feeling.

861
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,800
Well, we're going to get into it with

862
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,220
the co-founder and co-executive director of

863
00:31:13,220 --> 00:31:16,240
the Indivisible Project, Leah Greenberg.

864
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:20,340
So you're going to be astounded by these

865
00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:21,200
admissions here.

866
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,020
We represent grassroots groups all over the country,

867
00:31:24,220 --> 00:31:25,020
thousands of them.

868
00:31:25,020 --> 00:31:27,420
They are in every community, small areas, big

869
00:31:27,420 --> 00:31:27,760
cities.

870
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,620
Some of them are center-left, some of

871
00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:31,220
them are progressive.

872
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:33,360
Where they are united is that they understand

873
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,980
this is an emergency and they want to

874
00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:37,160
see people fight back using every tool they've

875
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:37,840
got in the toolbox.

876
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,560
And frankly, there's been a huge disconnect over

877
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,360
the last few months.

878
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:44,060
Democrats on Capitol Hill have been having one

879
00:31:44,060 --> 00:31:46,580
conversation about how do they break through on

880
00:31:46,580 --> 00:31:48,560
lower prices, and they have not been listening

881
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,260
to all of their constituents who are expressing

882
00:31:51,260 --> 00:31:54,000
the kind of alarm, fear, anger about what

883
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,420
is happening and want to see them fighting

884
00:31:55,420 --> 00:31:56,260
back in the moment.

885
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,180
And it's not that lower prices isn't a

886
00:31:58,180 --> 00:31:59,760
crucial part of the story that we tell.

887
00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:01,420
It's not that that's not an important part

888
00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:02,740
of how we're going to break through and

889
00:32:02,740 --> 00:32:05,240
win back more people, but it is really

890
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,500
tone-deaf to only focus on that in

891
00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:09,380
a moment when Donald Trump is taking a

892
00:32:09,380 --> 00:32:10,680
chainsaw to the federal government.

893
00:32:11,060 --> 00:32:14,360
Okay, so we have grassroots, thousands of them,

894
00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:16,500
grassroots, but no one's getting paid.

895
00:32:17,180 --> 00:32:18,440
All the way up to the president say

896
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,940
that these folks who are showing up to

897
00:32:19,940 --> 00:32:24,440
town halls in the Republicans' district, they are

898
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,300
activists or they are actually not constituents.

899
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,080
They're paid.

900
00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:29,340
What do you say to that?

901
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,040
They're paid!

902
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:30,640
They're paid!

903
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,900
Not their actual constituents that are coming there.

904
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,580
Well, this is just a transparently ridiculous claim,

905
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:35,900
right?

906
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,640
These are people who are rooted in their

907
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,140
communities.

908
00:32:38,740 --> 00:32:40,740
We often will have a local indivisible group

909
00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:42,520
that's making sure lots of people know about

910
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,380
a town hall, right?

911
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,820
But the people who come, they're people who

912
00:32:45,820 --> 00:32:46,960
just got their benefits cut.

913
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,960
They're people whose, you know, their son lost

914
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,500
his job.

915
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,680
They're people who are furious about what's going

916
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,960
on because they are being directly impacted by

917
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,300
all of these negative consequences and they want

918
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:57,940
to see their representative fighting back.

919
00:32:58,340 --> 00:32:59,680
And, you know, what I've seen with this

920
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,640
claim, we had this in 2017 when we

921
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,220
first got started.

922
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,540
Republicans said, oh, all those people who are

923
00:33:04,540 --> 00:33:06,700
mad about the Affordable Care Act, they're paid

924
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:07,180
protesters.

925
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,300
They stopped that eventually because you know what

926
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:11,320
really makes your constituents very, very mad?

927
00:33:11,380 --> 00:33:13,560
Is if you're calling them paid protesters while

928
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,660
they're coming to you with their incredibly heartfelt

929
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:16,140
concerns.

930
00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:18,300
And so it's a claim that's ridiculous and

931
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:20,260
it's a claim that always backfires because it

932
00:33:20,260 --> 00:33:21,680
makes you look like you're not listening to

933
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,240
your real people.

934
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,660
Well, the backfiring is the Indivisible Project at

935
00:33:27,660 --> 00:33:32,420
Indivisible.org, a joint website of Indivisible Project

936
00:33:32,420 --> 00:33:34,540
and Indivisible Action.

937
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,140
Indivisible Project is a registered 501c4.

938
00:33:38,140 --> 00:33:41,760
That means they are a, you can't actually

939
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,520
deduct your contribution to them because they're political.

940
00:33:46,460 --> 00:33:50,060
Indivisible Action is a hybrid political action committee,

941
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:50,860
a PAC.

942
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:54,420
And indeed they, according to GuideStar, in 2022,

943
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,300
because they haven't filed their 23 or 24

944
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,160
paperwork, or at least it's not on GuideStar

945
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,240
yet, they have $12 million they raised this

946
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,480
year.

947
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,980
And what do you know on the website?

948
00:34:05,980 --> 00:34:09,500
Charitable donations made through this form are received

949
00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:10,980
and processed by...

950
00:34:12,540 --> 00:34:13,120
ActBlue.

951
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,040
ActBlue, yes indeed.

952
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,620
I said a few weeks ago, y'all

953
00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:19,440
don't need your member to call a town

954
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:19,699
hall.

955
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:23,239
You just said you're organizing town halls in

956
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,600
red districts, blue districts, purple districts, every district

957
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,219
you can.

958
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:29,460
Talk about that organization.

959
00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:31,900
How do people feed into that?

960
00:34:32,020 --> 00:34:33,659
How does that word get out to them,

961
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:37,340
particularly in those communities in some of the

962
00:34:37,340 --> 00:34:40,780
reddest parts of the country, like Alabama, Mississippi,

963
00:34:41,179 --> 00:34:43,159
Tennessee, Texas, etc.?

964
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,699
They are literally explaining what they're doing.

965
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,300
Okay, they're not paid.

966
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,540
But this is an entire Democrat Party operation.

967
00:34:51,139 --> 00:34:54,280
If those members don't hold a town hall

968
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:54,520
meeting.

969
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,139
Absolutely.

970
00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:57,720
So what we tell our folks is, your

971
00:34:57,720 --> 00:34:59,260
representative should hold a town hall.

972
00:34:59,380 --> 00:35:00,860
It is part of their job to interact

973
00:35:00,860 --> 00:35:01,500
with the public.

974
00:35:01,820 --> 00:35:03,160
Some of them are not doing it.

975
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,840
They've decided that they would rather take the

976
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,380
hit for being out of touch, for avoiding

977
00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:09,440
their district, than get out in public and

978
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,040
get yelled at by their angry constituents.

979
00:35:11,380 --> 00:35:13,020
And so, you don't actually have to wait

980
00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:13,380
for them.

981
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,940
Yelled at by an organized group.

982
00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:18,340
Yeah, completely organized, completely coordinated.

983
00:35:18,780 --> 00:35:20,800
District, then get out in public and get

984
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,240
yelled at by their angry constituents.

985
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,240
And so, you don't actually have to wait

986
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:24,560
for them.

987
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,100
You can hold that town hall.

988
00:35:26,420 --> 00:35:27,940
You schedule it, you invite them.

989
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,120
If they come, that's great.

990
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:30,980
But if they don't come, have an empty

991
00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:31,340
chair.

992
00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:34,120
We used to say, have a live chicken

993
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,160
on stage.

994
00:35:35,340 --> 00:35:36,960
We don't say that anymore because of avian

995
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,180
flu.

996
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,620
But if you've got a chicken suit, then

997
00:35:38,620 --> 00:35:39,820
yeah, bring the chicken suit.

998
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:41,420
Chicken suits incoming.

999
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,240
And represent what they are actually doing in

1000
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:44,620
Washington.

1001
00:35:44,980 --> 00:35:46,400
What we're seeing when we do this is

1002
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,520
that these are sold out.

1003
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,660
People want to come.

1004
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,680
People want to be involved in the process

1005
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,140
right now.

1006
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,100
People are incredibly eager to hear from their

1007
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:54,440
representatives.

1008
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,060
And if they cannot hear from their representatives,

1009
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,280
then they're incredibly eager to make their representatives

1010
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:58,980
hear from them.

1011
00:35:58,980 --> 00:35:59,360
Okay.

1012
00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:03,660
So, it is AstroTurf.

1013
00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:04,760
That's what it is.

1014
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,040
I'm sure people are mad, but it's organized

1015
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:08,620
madness.

1016
00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:12,340
And just to accentuate— Well, the Democrats are

1017
00:36:12,340 --> 00:36:12,760
mad.

1018
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,120
So, you bring in—you have a Republican who

1019
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:15,920
won the area.

1020
00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:17,660
The Republicans aren't going to go to this

1021
00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:17,920
thing.

1022
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:18,480
They already won.

1023
00:36:18,580 --> 00:36:19,620
The guy's doing fine.

1024
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,660
They like Trump.

1025
00:36:20,780 --> 00:36:21,180
They're happy.

1026
00:36:21,820 --> 00:36:23,560
They're going on and on about how the

1027
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,020
Republicans are turning on Trump.

1028
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,180
There's no evidence of this at all.

1029
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:27,480
No.

1030
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,200
But if I'm an irked Democrat and I'm

1031
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,220
insane and I like to cuss a lot,

1032
00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:34,480
I can just go into it and say,

1033
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,340
Yeah, I'm a Republican, and F-you, F

1034
00:36:37,340 --> 00:36:38,160
-you, F-you.

1035
00:36:38,620 --> 00:36:40,620
I don't like what you're doing, and I

1036
00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:41,660
don't like Doge.

1037
00:36:41,780 --> 00:36:42,680
F-you, F-you.

1038
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,580
And to accentuate the delusional Democrat profanity, here

1039
00:36:48,580 --> 00:36:49,940
is Senator Mark Kelly.

1040
00:36:50,180 --> 00:36:50,700
Hey, folks.

1041
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,220
Mark Kelly here in Washington, driving to work

1042
00:36:54,220 --> 00:36:56,400
for the last time in my Tesla.

1043
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,280
When I bought this thing, I didn't think

1044
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,760
it was going to become a political issue.

1045
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,660
Every time I get in this car in

1046
00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:10,400
the last 60 days or so, it reminds

1047
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,100
me of just how much damage Elon Musk

1048
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:15,160
and Donald Trump is doing to our country.

1049
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,000
There are some things I really liked about

1050
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:17,200
it.

1051
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,200
There are things I didn't like about it.

1052
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,680
But that doesn't matter.

1053
00:37:21,220 --> 00:37:24,080
What matters is doing the right thing.

1054
00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:24,940
I think it's time to get rid of

1055
00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:25,080
it.

1056
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:28,120
Elon Musk kind of turned out to be

1057
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,280
an asshole, and I don't want to be

1058
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,580
driving a car built and designed by an

1059
00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:34,920
asshole.

1060
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,100
There you go.

1061
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,080
Oh, so mature.

1062
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,580
Remember, this is democracy, and we must always

1063
00:37:45,580 --> 00:37:48,900
remember the wise words of Ranish, also known

1064
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:49,580
as Osho.

1065
00:37:49,580 --> 00:38:00,980
Because democracy basically means government by the

1066
00:38:00,980 --> 00:38:07,040
people, of the people, for the people.

1067
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:10,740
But the people are retarded.

1068
00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:13,500
I love that guy.

1069
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,400
The people are retarded.

1070
00:38:16,780 --> 00:38:17,580
That's true.

1071
00:38:18,140 --> 00:38:18,700
That's true.

1072
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,780
Since you're talking about Schumer, let's go over

1073
00:38:22,780 --> 00:38:25,280
the Schumer thing, because this became a big...

1074
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,100
I mentioned the newsletter.

1075
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:31,180
Schumer said, you know, we should vote for

1076
00:38:31,180 --> 00:38:33,480
this thing, because otherwise it's going to get

1077
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,380
worse or something.

1078
00:38:34,540 --> 00:38:36,140
They have all these different reasons.

1079
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:39,480
And then all the Democrats turned on Schumer.

1080
00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:42,360
Pelosi said he should be hung by the

1081
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,500
yardarm.

1082
00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:44,700
Did she say that?

1083
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,120
Did she say that publicly?

1084
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,100
No, I don't think so.

1085
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:48,560
She publicly condemned him.

1086
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,100
Okay.

1087
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,140
So we can play Schumer passes continuing resolution

1088
00:38:53,140 --> 00:38:55,700
bill, which is the NPR clip, I think.

1089
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,480
The Senate has passed a short-term spending

1090
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,080
bill that avoids government shutdown and pays for

1091
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,920
government operations for six months.

1092
00:39:04,580 --> 00:39:06,360
NPR's Elena Moore reports.

1093
00:39:06,620 --> 00:39:08,980
Senate Republicans hold a majority in the chamber,

1094
00:39:09,220 --> 00:39:11,500
but they needed Democratic votes to overcome a

1095
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:13,760
filibuster and get the measure to a final

1096
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,100
vote.

1097
00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:16,600
For that procedural vote, a total of 10

1098
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,220
Democrats sided with Republicans to advance the bill.

1099
00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:22,040
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer was one of

1100
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,120
them and argued that allowing the GOP to

1101
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,140
pass their bill was a better move than

1102
00:39:26,140 --> 00:39:27,240
shutting down the government.

1103
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,020
The CR bill is a bad bill.

1104
00:39:29,340 --> 00:39:31,100
But as bad as the CR is, I

1105
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:33,580
believe that allowing Donald Trump to take even

1106
00:39:33,580 --> 00:39:37,420
more power via a government shutdown is a

1107
00:39:37,420 --> 00:39:38,520
far worse option.

1108
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,020
But that decision has caused rifts within the

1109
00:39:41,020 --> 00:39:41,860
Democratic Party.

1110
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,020
You know, the CR, I mean, this was

1111
00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:49,460
a setup from the get-go.

1112
00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:51,180
I mean, everybody knew this was going to

1113
00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:51,580
pass.

1114
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:56,220
Johnson sent the Republicans home right after they

1115
00:39:56,220 --> 00:39:58,180
voted and the Democrats didn't vote until the

1116
00:39:58,180 --> 00:39:58,740
next day.

1117
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,420
You don't send them home if you think

1118
00:40:01,420 --> 00:40:02,620
it's not going to make it.

1119
00:40:03,620 --> 00:40:05,180
This was set up.

1120
00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:07,620
I mean, I'm not sure why Schumer is

1121
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:10,480
doing it other than shutdown suck.

1122
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:13,480
Or what's that in your mouth?

1123
00:40:14,580 --> 00:40:18,220
Hey, Chuck, what's that with you and Anthony

1124
00:40:18,220 --> 00:40:18,600
Weiner?

1125
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,840
What's this picture about?

1126
00:40:22,460 --> 00:40:22,940
Possibly.

1127
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,440
But he did get eight other Democrats to

1128
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,000
vote, didn't he?

1129
00:40:27,820 --> 00:40:29,060
Yeah, they were going to get a few

1130
00:40:29,060 --> 00:40:30,880
anyway because, I mean, Fetterman was going to

1131
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:31,420
vote for it.

1132
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,960
And then there's some people in swing areas

1133
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,460
that could be ousted by Republicans that were

1134
00:40:37,460 --> 00:40:38,280
fearful.

1135
00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:41,220
Fetterman is the most interesting guy to me.

1136
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,040
He is pretty funny.

1137
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,940
He doesn't care.

1138
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,100
Well, but the thing, in the beginning, people

1139
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:50,400
like his wife is moving his mouth.

1140
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:51,620
He can't even operate.

1141
00:40:51,860 --> 00:40:53,560
And now he seems to have regained his

1142
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,060
functions.

1143
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,460
And you're right, he doesn't care.

1144
00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:01,240
And he's kind of like a secret weapon

1145
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:04,320
over there for the Republicans.

1146
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,940
Yeah, they don't know.

1147
00:41:06,340 --> 00:41:07,920
The Democrats don't know what to do with

1148
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,020
it.

1149
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,300
They just ignore him.

1150
00:41:10,260 --> 00:41:11,340
I mean, they're trying.

1151
00:41:11,540 --> 00:41:13,820
I mean, Pelosi still got her influence, but

1152
00:41:13,820 --> 00:41:15,940
they got all kinds of issues.

1153
00:41:15,940 --> 00:41:18,000
But let's just do the analysis of this

1154
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,440
Schumer promotion.

1155
00:41:22,820 --> 00:41:24,320
Another spending cycle.

1156
00:41:24,460 --> 00:41:26,840
Another barely-avoided government shutdown.

1157
00:41:27,020 --> 00:41:28,580
Another shutdown is very logical.

1158
00:41:28,940 --> 00:41:30,320
After the Senate just...

1159
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:30,740
Just...

1160
00:41:32,980 --> 00:41:34,180
Oh, man.

1161
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:36,960
I want to hear that again.

1162
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,780
The Senate just managed to pass a partisan

1163
00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:41,240
stopgap spending bill.

1164
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,960
But that was only possible with help from

1165
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,560
a few Democratic lawmakers, which has riled up

1166
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,180
their congressional colleagues.

1167
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,080
And our congressional correspondent Barbara Sprint joins us.

1168
00:41:52,180 --> 00:41:53,500
Barbara, thanks for being with us.

1169
00:41:53,860 --> 00:41:54,800
Hey, thanks for having me.

1170
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,060
This was an abrupt shift from the minority

1171
00:41:58,060 --> 00:41:59,060
leader, Chuck Schumer.

1172
00:41:59,060 --> 00:41:59,780
What happened?

1173
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:00,960
That's right.

1174
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,720
Schumer had said Republicans didn't get input from

1175
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:06,280
Democrats when drafting this bill, and so they

1176
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,320
wouldn't get the Democratic votes they'd need to

1177
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,040
advance it.

1178
00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:11,640
Instead, he wanted to pass a one-month

1179
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,900
funding bill to give them more time to

1180
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:14,880
negotiate a deal.

1181
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,980
But on Thursday, he made a U-turn,

1182
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:18,680
and he said he was going to vote

1183
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:19,600
to advance the bill.

1184
00:42:20,260 --> 00:42:22,580
Schumer and the nine other Democrats who ultimately

1185
00:42:22,580 --> 00:42:25,940
voted alongside him argued the bill was bad,

1186
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:28,780
yes, but a government shutdown would be worse.

1187
00:42:29,140 --> 00:42:31,080
They said it would enable President Trump and

1188
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,740
his top advisor, Elon Musk, to further gut

1189
00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:34,820
federal agencies.

1190
00:42:35,340 --> 00:42:38,400
And their support enabled Republicans to ultimately pass

1191
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,600
the bill largely along party lines.

1192
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:43,300
Barbara, would it be fair to say that

1193
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:45,740
Senator Schumer's colleagues just didn't see this coming?

1194
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,380
It would be fair.

1195
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:49,260
I was at a conference in Virginia with

1196
00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:51,780
House Democrats when Schumer made this announcement.

1197
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,340
I saw jaws drop.

1198
00:42:53,420 --> 00:42:54,240
I saw heads shake.

1199
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:57,080
Is she a journalist, or is she a

1200
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,180
party member?

1201
00:42:58,340 --> 00:42:59,340
What is she doing over there?

1202
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,240
I would think she's a journalist, but I'm

1203
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:04,220
glad you caught that, because what she's talking

1204
00:43:04,220 --> 00:43:05,740
about, that she was at that closed...

1205
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:07,500
The off-site.

1206
00:43:07,580 --> 00:43:08,440
They had a big off-site.

1207
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,580
The closed off-site where the Democrats are

1208
00:43:10,580 --> 00:43:12,900
trying to strategize what they're going to do.

1209
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:15,340
So what's she doing there?

1210
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,340
Yeah, she's helping them strategize.

1211
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,260
Hey, we're here.

1212
00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:19,400
NPR's all for you.

1213
00:43:19,460 --> 00:43:20,000
Go, go, go.

1214
00:43:20,180 --> 00:43:21,040
It would be fair.

1215
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,900
I was at a conference in Virginia with

1216
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:25,440
House Democrats when Schumer made this announcement.

1217
00:43:25,780 --> 00:43:26,980
I saw jaws drop.

1218
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,160
I saw heads shake.

1219
00:43:28,220 --> 00:43:29,720
Members were really upset.

1220
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,540
They said they felt betrayed because they had

1221
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:35,240
voted on this same bill earlier this week,

1222
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,520
and all but one voted against it.

1223
00:43:37,820 --> 00:43:39,380
It was a tough vote for a lot

1224
00:43:39,380 --> 00:43:42,960
of members, particularly those in vulnerable districts, but

1225
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,620
the caucus banded together to present a united

1226
00:43:45,620 --> 00:43:48,120
front and make a strong show of opposition.

1227
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,700
They said that the bill was essentially a

1228
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:53,680
blank check for Trump because it doesn't rein

1229
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,180
in the administration's efforts to cut spending that

1230
00:43:56,180 --> 00:43:58,120
was previously approved by Congress.

1231
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,460
Yeah, but isn't this the blank check that

1232
00:44:00,460 --> 00:44:03,060
Biden and Johnson put together?

1233
00:44:03,140 --> 00:44:06,140
It's just a continuation of what already was,

1234
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:06,360
no?

1235
00:44:07,180 --> 00:44:07,420
Yeah.

1236
00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:09,900
They were happy with it.

1237
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,360
A little extra dough for the Defense Department.

1238
00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:12,440
A little extra.

1239
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,880
A little extra dough.

1240
00:44:14,980 --> 00:44:16,640
700 billion extra.

1241
00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:18,180
Just a little.

1242
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,360
Just a little extra.

1243
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,720
It wasn't that much extra.

1244
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:26,720
No, the whole thing is about 800 max

1245
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:27,080
total.

1246
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:27,560
Oh, total.

1247
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,700
So some extra dough.

1248
00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:32,460
They're trying to keep it under a trillion.

1249
00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:35,360
Even though the Chinese can do the same

1250
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,940
amount of work for 200 billion.

1251
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,980
It's interesting that the Chinese are more efficient

1252
00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:39,560
than we are.

1253
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,800
Doge has not yet gone into the Defense

1254
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,160
Department.

1255
00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:44,600
Once they do, it'll be interesting.

1256
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,420
Yeah, we'll see.

1257
00:44:45,740 --> 00:44:46,360
We'll see.

1258
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,380
I don't know about that.

1259
00:44:50,820 --> 00:44:52,140
Here's the last of it.

1260
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,860
No, you have two more.

1261
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,120
This is your second one.

1262
00:44:55,540 --> 00:44:58,660
Here's New York Congressman Joe Morelli reacting to

1263
00:44:58,660 --> 00:44:59,400
Schumer's comments.

1264
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,440
I think they're going to rue the day

1265
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,340
they make this decision.

1266
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,700
I think this just gives license to Republicans

1267
00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:08,740
to continue to dismantle the government.

1268
00:45:09,060 --> 00:45:12,200
They now have the acquiescence of Senate Democrats.

1269
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,040
Members told me they were calling and texting

1270
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,140
their senators, imploring them not to vote alongside

1271
00:45:18,140 --> 00:45:18,600
Schumer.

1272
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,520
So a lot of frustration and anger among

1273
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,260
House Democrats.

1274
00:45:22,620 --> 00:45:25,140
Barbara, what's the implication of this rift among

1275
00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:28,360
Democrats at a time when after all, Republicans

1276
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,380
control the House, the Senate, and the White

1277
00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:31,640
House.

1278
00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:33,540
You really have to label these clips when

1279
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:34,560
the sky is coming on?

1280
00:45:34,660 --> 00:45:36,820
Because I need to know ahead of time.

1281
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,400
I really do need to know.

1282
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,860
Barbara, what's your problem?

1283
00:45:42,020 --> 00:45:42,780
You know what?

1284
00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:46,780
By the way, they discuss it a little

1285
00:45:46,780 --> 00:45:48,500
bit or it's kind of an undertone, but

1286
00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:54,100
the subtext, I think, of the anger on

1287
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:58,580
the House side is that, hey, we could

1288
00:45:58,580 --> 00:45:59,140
have voted.

1289
00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:00,880
You're going to just pass it.

1290
00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:04,520
We're in a couple of districts over here

1291
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,520
that we can get kicked out by some

1292
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,000
upcoming Republicans.

1293
00:46:08,540 --> 00:46:10,360
It would make us look a little better

1294
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,280
if we voted yes on this after you

1295
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,320
guys screwed us.

1296
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,980
Oh, interesting point.

1297
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:17,360
If you listen to the subtext, that's all

1298
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,960
they're complaining about is that, oh, wow, you

1299
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:20,900
guys screwed us.

1300
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,280
I would have voted yes if I had

1301
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,500
known you were going to do that.

1302
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,240
Who were the people who voted yes?

1303
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,500
One guy in the House voted yes.

1304
00:46:29,540 --> 00:46:30,380
That's a Democrat.

1305
00:46:31,380 --> 00:46:33,060
Now he's looking good.

1306
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,840
Yeah, yes, Rebecca Scott.

1307
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,620
House Democrats felt that they finally had some

1308
00:46:38,620 --> 00:46:40,800
momentum as the opposition party.

1309
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,480
The vote over the shutdown was a rare

1310
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,660
and big piece of leverage for them.

1311
00:46:45,940 --> 00:46:47,980
To have unity in the House and then

1312
00:46:47,980 --> 00:46:50,700
have the Senate Democrats shift course at this

1313
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:53,700
late stage is a breakdown in strategy.

1314
00:46:54,180 --> 00:46:57,060
And New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said

1315
00:46:57,060 --> 00:46:59,560
that it has implications, in her view, far

1316
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,820
beyond this one vote.

1317
00:47:01,060 --> 00:47:03,920
There will be a day where the Senate

1318
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,860
will need the House to move on something.

1319
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,940
And if there is an erosion of trust

1320
00:47:07,940 --> 00:47:09,860
and a breach of trust, such as what

1321
00:47:09,860 --> 00:47:12,060
is being considered right now, it will make

1322
00:47:12,060 --> 00:47:14,180
cooperation difficult.

1323
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,660
After the vote, she posted that the Democratic

1324
00:47:16,660 --> 00:47:18,740
votes in the Senate were a, quote, fear

1325
00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:22,660
-based inexplicable abdication and that the Senate owns

1326
00:47:22,660 --> 00:47:23,680
what happens next.

1327
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:25,940
You know, I talked to Democratic strategists about

1328
00:47:25,940 --> 00:47:28,200
this yesterday and they said that Senate leadership

1329
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,480
really misread what constituents want.

1330
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,680
For Democrats to hold the line, even if

1331
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,540
it means a shutdown.

1332
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,780
There's concern that this emboldens the GOP, makes

1333
00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:39,460
it harder for Democrats to present a unified

1334
00:47:39,460 --> 00:47:40,200
message.

1335
00:47:40,460 --> 00:47:42,480
Now, Congress is on recess next week.

1336
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,140
I expect Democrats will be getting an earful

1337
00:47:45,140 --> 00:47:46,100
from constituents.

1338
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,160
Okay, so Schumer voted for it.

1339
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,560
Fetterman voted for it.

1340
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,340
Cortez Mastro of Nevada, Nevada, Nevada, Nevada, Nevada,

1341
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:56,760
voted for it.

1342
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,640
Brian Schatz of Hawaii, Dick Durbin of Illinois,

1343
00:48:03,340 --> 00:48:06,500
Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Gary Peters of

1344
00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:11,280
Michigan, Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, Jean Shaheen

1345
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,340
of New Hampshire, and Angus King of Maine,

1346
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,220
who is independent but he's kind of on

1347
00:48:19,220 --> 00:48:20,000
the Democrat side.

1348
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,580
This was also, in an interesting way, a

1349
00:48:22,580 --> 00:48:24,420
moment for AOC to shine.

1350
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:25,580
I don't know if you noticed that.

1351
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:28,040
But she was everywhere.

1352
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,020
And it would be fun to watch but

1353
00:48:34,020 --> 00:48:36,220
there's a lot of noise now.

1354
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,720
Oh, AOC, she's going to run for president

1355
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:39,580
in 2028.

1356
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:40,400
Yes!

1357
00:48:41,340 --> 00:48:42,220
And you know what?

1358
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:44,560
I have to tell you, she's got a

1359
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:44,860
shot.

1360
00:48:45,820 --> 00:48:48,700
You predicted this when she first showed up

1361
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:49,340
on the scene.

1362
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,720
You made this idiotic, and I'll say it.

1363
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,940
Yeah, you can say it all you want.

1364
00:48:52,940 --> 00:48:54,580
You said the same when I said about

1365
00:48:54,580 --> 00:48:54,840
Trump.

1366
00:48:55,620 --> 00:48:56,860
I also said Trump would win.

1367
00:48:56,940 --> 00:49:00,940
That this bonehead is going to run for

1368
00:49:00,940 --> 00:49:01,520
president.

1369
00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:03,040
Yep, she's going to run.

1370
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:04,600
Yes.

1371
00:49:04,820 --> 00:49:07,220
I said she could do it, just like

1372
00:49:07,220 --> 00:49:10,320
I said Trump could do it in 2015.

1373
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,500
And let's always remember, I predicted the Pope,

1374
00:49:14,620 --> 00:49:15,760
so you know, Pope.

1375
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,520
Well, if you predict the next Pope, then

1376
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,480
I'll defer a little bit more.

1377
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,380
A little bit more?

1378
00:49:21,980 --> 00:49:23,240
A little bit more?

1379
00:49:23,740 --> 00:49:25,800
Well, first of all, this Pope isn't dead

1380
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,060
yet, so a little respect, please.

1381
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:30,200
According to what we know.

1382
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,240
Well, this is true.

1383
00:49:31,660 --> 00:49:32,640
We don't really know.

1384
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:33,920
We're not actually sure.

1385
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,980
We're not sure he's alive.

1386
00:49:35,740 --> 00:49:38,000
Here's your final anal clip.

1387
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,140
Donald Trump owns the chaos in government.

1388
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,620
He owns the chaos in the stock market.

1389
00:49:42,940 --> 00:49:45,220
He owns the damage happening to the economy.

1390
00:49:45,580 --> 00:49:47,860
But Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer may end

1391
00:49:47,860 --> 00:49:50,380
up owning some political pain from the shutdown

1392
00:49:50,380 --> 00:49:51,280
that wasn't.

1393
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,760
And our senior contributor Ron Elving joins us.

1394
00:49:54,820 --> 00:49:56,280
Ron, thanks so much for being with us.

1395
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,840
Good to be with you, Scott.

1396
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,900
What is in the spending agreement to keep

1397
00:49:59,900 --> 00:50:03,980
the government funded, and why might it come

1398
00:50:03,980 --> 00:50:05,900
back to haunt the minority leader politically?

1399
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,840
It's already haunting him.

1400
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,160
First off, this is not the main event

1401
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,120
for this year in spending and policy.

1402
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,120
It's not the package Trump calls his one

1403
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,160
big beautiful bill.

1404
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,060
That showdown is coming later.

1405
00:50:17,820 --> 00:50:20,260
Last night was a vote on what's called

1406
00:50:20,260 --> 00:50:22,060
a continuing resolution.

1407
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,920
We sometimes call it a stopgap spending bill.

1408
00:50:25,180 --> 00:50:27,560
It's a hangover from last year's failed budget

1409
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,020
process, and it keeps the government running even

1410
00:50:30,020 --> 00:50:31,960
though the regular spending bills were not enacted

1411
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:32,560
last year.

1412
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,240
We've been running on these stopgaps since last

1413
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:35,720
October.

1414
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,600
They extend the budgeting resolutions of last year

1415
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,500
with relatively small changes for defense and domestic

1416
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:42,940
spending.

1417
00:50:42,940 --> 00:50:45,500
So the real fight this week was over

1418
00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:47,360
what this resolution did not do.

1419
00:50:47,820 --> 00:50:49,400
It was written by Republicans in the House

1420
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:49,760
and Senate.

1421
00:50:50,260 --> 00:50:52,300
It did not put up a stop sign

1422
00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:54,420
or guardrails for Trump and Elon Musk.

1423
00:50:54,820 --> 00:50:57,220
So the current assault on federal agencies and

1424
00:50:57,220 --> 00:50:59,960
their employees will continue, with the only pushback

1425
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:01,160
really coming from the courts.

1426
00:51:01,620 --> 00:51:03,620
And a lot of Democrats, certainly the House

1427
00:51:03,620 --> 00:51:06,380
Democrats, thought the Senate Democrats ought to vote

1428
00:51:06,380 --> 00:51:08,960
no and confront Trump here, even if it

1429
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,560
meant a shutdown.

1430
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:11,380
Here's House Democratic leader.

1431
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,840
By the way, this guy's, uh, his, uh,

1432
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,440
his fake teeth are clacking.

1433
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,380
You notice that?

1434
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:21,340
Yeah.

1435
00:51:21,860 --> 00:51:23,160
Listen, listen carefully.

1436
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:23,740
You'll hear it.

1437
00:51:23,780 --> 00:51:25,280
It's like clicking and clacking.

1438
00:51:25,460 --> 00:51:26,400
Coming from the courts.

1439
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,840
And a lot of Democrats, certainly the House

1440
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,580
Democrats, thought the Senate Democrats ought to vote

1441
00:51:31,580 --> 00:51:34,160
no and confront Trump here, even if it

1442
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:34,740
meant a shutdown.

1443
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,920
Here's House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries, yesterday being

1444
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,540
asked about Schumer's future.

1445
00:51:40,940 --> 00:51:42,500
Is it time for new leadership in the

1446
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:42,680
Senate?

1447
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:43,960
Next question.

1448
00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:45,080
Yeah, no.

1449
00:51:45,260 --> 00:51:46,080
Next question.

1450
00:51:46,380 --> 00:51:47,180
Like, no comment.

1451
00:51:47,660 --> 00:51:47,760
Yeah.

1452
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,980
Look, Schumer and nine other Democrats decided voting

1453
00:51:50,980 --> 00:51:53,260
for a resolution they hated was the lesser

1454
00:51:53,260 --> 00:51:54,080
of two evils.

1455
00:51:54,460 --> 00:51:55,640
They know Trump will see it as a

1456
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,520
green light, but they believe a shutdown right

1457
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,760
now would be worse, like waving a red

1458
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,420
cape in front of a bull.

1459
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,840
Um, you know what I'm missing in this

1460
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:05,200
report?

1461
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:08,680
Did they ever talk to Republicans ever at

1462
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:09,380
NPR?

1463
00:52:09,780 --> 00:52:10,900
No, why bother?

1464
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,840
There's not even, not even the...

1465
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,620
They bring Mike Johnson in once in a

1466
00:52:14,620 --> 00:52:16,220
while to put you to sleep.

1467
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,720
It's a sonambulistic style.

1468
00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:20,980
Sonambulistic.

1469
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:21,860
That's a good one.

1470
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:23,960
What does that mean?

1471
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:24,960
Sonambulistic?

1472
00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:25,780
Sleepy.

1473
00:52:26,060 --> 00:52:26,540
Sleepy.

1474
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:27,060
Sleepy.

1475
00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:30,200
Or putting you, he puts you to sleep.

1476
00:52:31,260 --> 00:52:33,000
He's a soft-spoken guy.

1477
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,480
I'm going to set you up for your

1478
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:37,920
Khalil clips.

1479
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,200
Oh, yes.

1480
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,040
Good old Khalil.

1481
00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:41,580
Muhammad...

1482
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:45,040
Muhammad...

1483
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,020
And I'll set you up with Secretary of

1484
00:52:48,020 --> 00:52:48,640
State Rubio.

1485
00:52:48,740 --> 00:52:50,760
Got a couple clips from him this morning

1486
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,600
saying everything but what it's really about.

1487
00:52:53,780 --> 00:52:55,220
I want to ask you about a decision

1488
00:52:55,220 --> 00:52:57,500
you made to revoke a student visa for

1489
00:52:57,500 --> 00:53:00,100
someone at Columbia University this past week.

1490
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,000
The Wall Street Journal editorial board writes, the

1491
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,580
administration needs to be careful.

1492
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,880
It's targeting real promoters of terrorism, not breaking

1493
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,780
the great promise of a green card by

1494
00:53:09,780 --> 00:53:12,620
deporting anyone with controversial political views.

1495
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,140
Can you substantiate any form of material support

1496
00:53:17,140 --> 00:53:21,380
for terrorism, specifically to Hamas, from this Columbia

1497
00:53:21,380 --> 00:53:21,820
student?

1498
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,040
Or was it simply that he was espousing

1499
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,320
a controversial political point of view?

1500
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,100
Well, not just the student.

1501
00:53:28,140 --> 00:53:28,800
We're going to do more.

1502
00:53:29,020 --> 00:53:31,300
In fact, every day now we're approving visa

1503
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:33,500
revocations, and if that visa led to a

1504
00:53:33,500 --> 00:53:35,300
green card, the green card process as well.

1505
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:35,940
And here's why.

1506
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:36,660
It's very simple.

1507
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,340
That's a new version of epiphora.

1508
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,200
Instead of saying why, he says, and here's

1509
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:44,500
why.

1510
00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:48,260
It's kind of a new take on doing

1511
00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:48,540
it.

1512
00:53:49,180 --> 00:53:50,880
That's probably a better way of doing it.

1513
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,500
Oh, it's much better.

1514
00:53:51,660 --> 00:53:58,080
The reason I say that is because Horowitz

1515
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:58,600
does this.

1516
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,620
He does.

1517
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,680
You're talking long, and then you pause, and

1518
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:04,440
then you go, why?

1519
00:54:07,260 --> 00:54:09,560
So it lacks smoothness.

1520
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,180
This is smoother, which Rubio is a smooth

1521
00:54:13,180 --> 00:54:13,600
character.

1522
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,040
Visa led to a green card, the green

1523
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,060
card process as well.

1524
00:54:17,180 --> 00:54:17,720
And here's why.

1525
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:18,420
It's very simple.

1526
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,560
When you apply to enter the United States

1527
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,000
and you get a visa, you are a

1528
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:22,300
guest.

1529
00:54:22,540 --> 00:54:24,120
And you're coming as a student, you're coming

1530
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,300
as a tourist, or what have you.

1531
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,680
And in it, you have to make certain

1532
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:27,240
assertions.

1533
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,700
And if you tell us when you apply

1534
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:30,340
for a visa, I'm coming to the U

1535
00:54:30,340 --> 00:54:32,860
.S. to participate in pro-Hamas events.

1536
00:54:33,180 --> 00:54:35,200
That runs counter to the foreign policy interest

1537
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,400
of the United States of America.

1538
00:54:36,620 --> 00:54:37,260
It's that simple.

1539
00:54:37,580 --> 00:54:38,300
So you lied.

1540
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,880
You came, if you had told us that

1541
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:40,800
you were going to do that, we never

1542
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,720
would have given you the visa.

1543
00:54:42,180 --> 00:54:42,840
Now you're here.

1544
00:54:42,980 --> 00:54:43,740
Now you do it.

1545
00:54:43,940 --> 00:54:44,720
So you lied to us.

1546
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:45,340
You're out.

1547
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:46,160
You lied!

1548
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:47,140
You lied.

1549
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:47,880
Okay.

1550
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,040
Okay.

1551
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,300
Well, they're not giving up easy there at

1552
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:52,920
Face the Nation.

1553
00:54:53,020 --> 00:54:55,560
But is there any evidence of a link

1554
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,820
to terrorism, or is it just his point

1555
00:54:57,820 --> 00:54:58,260
of view?

1556
00:54:58,540 --> 00:55:01,160
Hey, we all know that in America, even

1557
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,280
soccer moms can be terrorists, okay?

1558
00:55:03,740 --> 00:55:05,220
I mean, come on, CBS.

1559
00:55:06,460 --> 00:55:09,020
Yeah, they take over, I mean, you should

1560
00:55:09,020 --> 00:55:09,640
watch the news.

1561
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,380
These guys take over entire buildings.

1562
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,240
They vandalize- We covered it!

1563
00:55:13,540 --> 00:55:14,660
We are the news!

1564
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,160
I'm asking about the specific justification for the

1565
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,260
revocation of his visa.

1566
00:55:19,780 --> 00:55:21,740
Was there any evidence of material that the

1567
00:55:21,740 --> 00:55:22,960
spokesperson was the negotiator?

1568
00:55:23,540 --> 00:55:25,260
Negotiating on behalf of people that took over

1569
00:55:25,260 --> 00:55:27,260
a campus that vandalized buildings?

1570
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,340
Negotiating over what?

1571
00:55:28,660 --> 00:55:30,380
That's a crime in and of itself, that

1572
00:55:30,380 --> 00:55:32,360
they're involved in being the negotiator, the spokesperson,

1573
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,120
this, that, the other.

1574
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,160
We don't need these people in our country.

1575
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,180
We never should have- This is one

1576
00:55:37,180 --> 00:55:38,080
of my pet peeves.

1577
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:39,840
I'm hearing this a lot more.

1578
00:55:40,060 --> 00:55:41,180
This, that, and the other.

1579
00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:43,900
It's...

1580
00:55:44,860 --> 00:55:45,880
Maybe it's just me.

1581
00:55:46,340 --> 00:55:48,480
Well, you know, I have the same pet

1582
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,280
peeve with Mike Levin.

1583
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,600
Does he say this, that, and the other?

1584
00:55:51,860 --> 00:55:54,140
He's always saying, and so forth, and so

1585
00:55:54,140 --> 00:55:56,000
on, and so forth, and so forth, and

1586
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,860
he'll just, he says, and so on, and

1587
00:55:57,860 --> 00:55:59,240
so forth, and he says, and so on,

1588
00:55:59,260 --> 00:56:00,760
and so forth, all the time.

1589
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:02,960
I've been wanting to put a super clip

1590
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,340
together of it, a super cut, of it

1591
00:56:05,340 --> 00:56:07,100
just going, and so forth.

1592
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,660
It's just annoying.

1593
00:56:08,940 --> 00:56:09,780
Yes, this, that, and the other.

1594
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,020
Well, Rubio is now making a point that

1595
00:56:13,020 --> 00:56:15,640
negotiating, taking over a building and being the

1596
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,280
negotiator is a crime.

1597
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,540
That is a terroristic crime.

1598
00:56:19,900 --> 00:56:20,900
That vandalize buildings?

1599
00:56:21,140 --> 00:56:21,920
Negotiating over what?

1600
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,020
That's a crime in and of itself, that

1601
00:56:24,020 --> 00:56:25,980
they're involved in being the negotiator, the spokesperson,

1602
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:26,760
this, that, and the other.

1603
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,800
We don't need these people in our country

1604
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,800
that we never should have allowed them in

1605
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,440
in the first place.

1606
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,420
Now that you point it out, by the

1607
00:56:32,420 --> 00:56:33,760
way, now I'm going to be hearing it.

1608
00:56:33,940 --> 00:56:35,120
Yeah, you're going to hear it everywhere.

1609
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:35,860
It's everywhere.

1610
00:56:36,020 --> 00:56:37,860
If he had told us I'm going over

1611
00:56:37,860 --> 00:56:39,400
there, and I'm going over there to become

1612
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,160
the spokesperson and one of the leaders of

1613
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,080
a movement that's going to turn- Well,

1614
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,400
of course he's not going to tell you

1615
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:44,900
that, Marco.

1616
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:47,620
One of your allegedly elite colleges upside down.

1617
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:49,120
People can't even go to school.

1618
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,200
Library buildings being vandalized.

1619
00:56:51,260 --> 00:56:52,220
We never would have let him in.

1620
00:56:52,540 --> 00:56:53,520
We never would have let him in to

1621
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:54,040
begin with.

1622
00:56:54,380 --> 00:56:55,500
And now that he's doing it and he's

1623
00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:57,140
here, he's going to leave, and so are

1624
00:56:57,140 --> 00:56:58,600
others, and we're going to keep doing it.

1625
00:56:58,940 --> 00:57:00,520
And by the way, I find it ironic

1626
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,780
that a lot of these people out there

1627
00:57:01,780 --> 00:57:05,160
defending the First Amendment speech, alleged free speech

1628
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,760
rights of these Hamas sympathizers, they had no

1629
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,180
problem, okay, pressuring social media to censor American

1630
00:57:11,180 --> 00:57:12,120
political speech.

1631
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,280
So, I think it's ironic and hypocritical.

1632
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,280
But is there any- So, before we

1633
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,480
continue with this, and it sounds like the

1634
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,520
Secretary of State is saying, well, he lied

1635
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,680
on his application, you know, it's like, are

1636
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,700
you going to be disruptive in America?

1637
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:31,140
No!

1638
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,340
No, of course not.

1639
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,060
So he lied on his application, and the

1640
00:57:35,060 --> 00:57:37,680
taking over of a building is in of

1641
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,800
itself a crime.

1642
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,680
So, a lot of people all across the

1643
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,360
political spectrum are very upset by this.

1644
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,580
They feel that you have a right to

1645
00:57:46,580 --> 00:57:48,780
the freedom of speech, or as some say,

1646
00:57:48,860 --> 00:57:49,560
free speech!

1647
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,120
And I shall read an email that we

1648
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,740
received, which I think kind of kicked off

1649
00:57:53,740 --> 00:57:55,660
your- Before you do that, before you

1650
00:57:55,660 --> 00:57:57,040
read the email, I want to point out

1651
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,080
something because it will go into my analysis

1652
00:57:59,080 --> 00:57:59,700
coming up.

1653
00:58:00,220 --> 00:58:05,900
Is that when Rubio is full of it,

1654
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,060
and he's promoting the narrative that's in play,

1655
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,420
which is what we're hearing.

1656
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,800
He talks fast.

1657
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:14,520
Oh, that's a good tell.

1658
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:16,720
That's his tell.

1659
00:58:16,900 --> 00:58:17,500
He speeds up.

1660
00:58:17,500 --> 00:58:19,240
Rubio starts going like a maniac.

1661
00:58:19,460 --> 00:58:20,780
He just goes crazy.

1662
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:21,560
You're right.

1663
00:58:22,340 --> 00:58:25,040
And there is a difference between a visa

1664
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,120
and a green card.

1665
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,820
A green card is a version of a

1666
00:58:28,820 --> 00:58:33,300
visa, but you would think it's rather extreme

1667
00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:36,440
to take someone out for this.

1668
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,920
Especially a student.

1669
00:58:40,140 --> 00:58:42,200
Of course, as we're about to learn, the

1670
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,400
student is 31, been married, has a kid

1671
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,140
coming up, so it's valid student.

1672
00:58:49,260 --> 00:58:50,520
At 31, you can be a student.

1673
00:58:50,820 --> 00:58:52,580
If any of our daughters were students at

1674
00:58:52,580 --> 00:58:53,920
31, I'd tell them to get their act

1675
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,300
together.

1676
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,740
So here's the email we received, which I

1677
00:58:57,740 --> 00:59:00,180
think started off some searching on our part.

1678
00:59:01,940 --> 00:59:02,460
Subject.

1679
00:59:02,740 --> 00:59:04,520
Useful idiot for Israel!

1680
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:06,900
Oh, this one.

1681
00:59:07,420 --> 00:59:08,380
This is a good one.

1682
00:59:08,820 --> 00:59:10,380
If you're going to bring this into the

1683
00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:11,320
show, it's a good one.

1684
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:11,900
It's too good.

1685
00:59:12,740 --> 00:59:15,080
You are a pawn to perhaps the greatest

1686
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,160
human atrocity of our lifetime.

1687
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,480
You defend Israel as they bomb hospitals and

1688
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,560
aid stations.

1689
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:24,880
And by the way, before we continue, I

1690
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,000
have looked at this guy.

1691
00:59:26,060 --> 00:59:27,340
He's not a donor to the show.

1692
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:27,660
No.

1693
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:28,720
He's a drive-by.

1694
00:59:28,820 --> 00:59:30,280
His name is Blockman Bing.

1695
00:59:30,540 --> 00:59:31,080
I mean, come on.

1696
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,220
Yeah, he's a drive-by.

1697
00:59:32,220 --> 00:59:35,180
He's a drive-by, but I guess, I

1698
00:59:35,180 --> 00:59:37,860
don't think we've ever defended bombing hospitals and

1699
00:59:37,860 --> 00:59:38,680
aid stations.

1700
00:59:39,220 --> 00:59:40,540
No, not that I can recall.

1701
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,380
What he's saying is, you don't call it

1702
00:59:42,380 --> 00:59:43,200
out as genocide.

1703
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:44,640
That's really what he's saying.

1704
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,060
But instead of saying that, he says, you

1705
00:59:47,060 --> 00:59:47,540
defend.

1706
00:59:48,180 --> 00:59:50,840
And you defend the censoring and deportation of

1707
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,020
permanent residents for thought crimes and speech issues!

1708
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:56,840
Okay.

1709
00:59:57,420 --> 00:59:59,440
I don't think we defended it, but all

1710
00:59:59,440 --> 00:59:59,620
right.

1711
00:59:59,620 --> 01:00:03,620
You claim no agenda, but your agenda is

1712
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:05,780
Zionism!

1713
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,300
They are coming after a permanent resident today

1714
01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:15,100
for thought crimes and supporting terrorism.

1715
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,820
Tomorrow, they'll be droning citizens for supporting terrorism

1716
01:00:19,820 --> 01:00:21,880
just like Obama did.

1717
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,060
I tried to listen to the show because

1718
01:00:24,060 --> 01:00:25,620
I don't want to be the person that

1719
01:00:25,620 --> 01:00:29,480
can't see beyond an issue or two, which

1720
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,860
tells me that somehow this show is, for

1721
01:00:32,860 --> 01:00:37,280
some reason, important enough for some outfit like,

1722
01:00:37,380 --> 01:00:39,940
I don't know, ActBlue to send people along

1723
01:00:39,940 --> 01:00:42,020
and, email these boomers.

1724
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,340
They've got influence.

1725
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:46,760
don't want...

1726
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,680
It's like, why are you wasting your time?

1727
01:00:50,220 --> 01:00:51,740
I don't want to be the person that

1728
01:00:51,740 --> 01:00:53,720
can't see beyond an issue or two, but

1729
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,760
to hear you and John so cavalierly dismiss

1730
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,700
Mahmood Khalil shows me that you two really

1731
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:02,300
don't support the freedom in America that I

1732
01:01:02,300 --> 01:01:03,260
believe in.

1733
01:01:04,300 --> 01:01:05,980
Sincerely, Blockman Bing.

1734
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,480
So, and we shared this.

1735
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,640
I shared this email with John and then

1736
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,120
for some reason, John started to dig in

1737
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,340
and I think you came up with some

1738
01:01:16,340 --> 01:01:17,500
interesting ideas.

1739
01:01:17,540 --> 01:01:18,360
It didn't take much work.

1740
01:01:18,500 --> 01:01:20,160
But let's play two clips first.

1741
01:01:20,260 --> 01:01:20,940
I got two clips.

1742
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:22,340
I got genocide and Muhammad.

1743
01:01:22,340 --> 01:01:23,220
Muhammad.

1744
01:01:26,580 --> 01:01:27,900
Part one and two.

1745
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,060
And these are good preliminary clips that just

1746
01:01:31,060 --> 01:01:33,460
build onto the problem we have.

1747
01:01:33,780 --> 01:01:36,960
The Israeli government denies that its campaign against

1748
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,100
Hamas in Gaza amounts to genocide.

1749
01:01:40,220 --> 01:01:42,820
South Africa is arguing in the International Court

1750
01:01:42,820 --> 01:01:44,380
of Justice that it does.

1751
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,600
The case is yet to be decided.

1752
01:01:46,980 --> 01:01:49,460
It's an accusation that rang across the campus

1753
01:01:49,460 --> 01:01:51,220
of Columbia University last year.

1754
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:52,980
We should give this guy just the executive

1755
01:01:52,980 --> 01:01:53,820
producer credit.

1756
01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:55,920
I mean, he is on the show constantly.

1757
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,920
The case is yet to be decided.

1758
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,760
It's an accusation that rang across the campus

1759
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,600
of Columbia University last year.

1760
01:02:03,020 --> 01:02:05,560
Mahmood Khalil was a prominent part of those

1761
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,560
protests as a student there.

1762
01:02:07,980 --> 01:02:10,460
And for his role in those protests, Khalil

1763
01:02:10,460 --> 01:02:13,260
has been taken into custody by immigration agents

1764
01:02:13,260 --> 01:02:15,520
and is now facing deportation.

1765
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,140
His wife, Noor Abdallah, who is pregnant, gave

1766
01:02:19,140 --> 01:02:22,080
her first broadcast interview to our colleague, Morning

1767
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,920
Edition co-host Leila Fadel.

1768
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:25,300
Thanks for having me, Scott.

1769
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,040
Tell us about the scene.

1770
01:02:28,700 --> 01:02:31,740
Noor Abdallah was with her husband when he

1771
01:02:31,740 --> 01:02:32,820
was detained last weekend.

1772
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:33,660
That's right, she was.

1773
01:02:33,700 --> 01:02:35,320
Oh man, do you know what this reminds

1774
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:35,840
me of?

1775
01:02:37,460 --> 01:02:38,320
Pillow talk?

1776
01:02:38,620 --> 01:02:40,180
No, well, close.

1777
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,040
Let's see.

1778
01:02:43,220 --> 01:02:45,000
What was the guy's name again?

1779
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:47,520
Oh man.

1780
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,500
Hold on a second.

1781
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:50,380
I gotta find it.

1782
01:02:53,210 --> 01:02:55,090
Charlie Rose, that's what it is.

1783
01:02:55,210 --> 01:02:56,430
Oh, Charlie Rose.

1784
01:02:56,910 --> 01:02:59,250
Tell us about the scene.

1785
01:03:01,150 --> 01:03:04,010
Noor Abdallah was with her husband when he

1786
01:03:04,010 --> 01:03:05,070
was detained last weekend.

1787
01:03:05,390 --> 01:03:06,910
Tell me about this sexuality.

1788
01:03:07,350 --> 01:03:08,390
It's in your DNA.

1789
01:03:08,790 --> 01:03:09,510
Same guy.

1790
01:03:10,690 --> 01:03:11,330
Beautiful.

1791
01:03:12,210 --> 01:03:14,530
Tell us about the scene.

1792
01:03:14,530 --> 01:03:16,190
Hi, hi, hi.

1793
01:03:16,530 --> 01:03:19,250
Noor Abdallah was with her husband when he

1794
01:03:19,250 --> 01:03:20,330
was detained last weekend.

1795
01:03:20,410 --> 01:03:21,450
That's right, she was.

1796
01:03:21,590 --> 01:03:23,370
And she said they were coming home from

1797
01:03:23,370 --> 01:03:25,390
dinner, and as they unlocked the door of

1798
01:03:25,390 --> 01:03:27,670
their apartment building, a man held it open

1799
01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:30,130
behind them and asked her husband, are you

1800
01:03:30,130 --> 01:03:31,010
Mahmoud Khalil?

1801
01:03:31,530 --> 01:03:33,210
And I'll just play you a bit of

1802
01:03:33,210 --> 01:03:34,470
what she says happened next.

1803
01:03:34,790 --> 01:03:37,230
We were both like, what is happening, you

1804
01:03:37,230 --> 01:03:37,390
know?

1805
01:03:37,650 --> 01:03:39,530
And he says, I'm with the police, you

1806
01:03:39,530 --> 01:03:40,390
have to come with us.

1807
01:03:40,770 --> 01:03:43,010
I think at that point, honestly, my heart

1808
01:03:43,010 --> 01:03:43,350
sank.

1809
01:03:44,410 --> 01:03:46,950
I want to say Mahmoud tried to prepare

1810
01:03:46,950 --> 01:03:48,470
me two days before.

1811
01:03:49,150 --> 01:03:50,770
He told me, do you know your rights

1812
01:03:50,770 --> 01:03:52,030
if ICE comes to your door?

1813
01:03:52,570 --> 01:03:53,550
And I brushed it off.

1814
01:03:53,650 --> 01:03:54,590
I was like, what are you saying?

1815
01:03:54,770 --> 01:03:56,110
That's not going to happen, you know?

1816
01:03:56,690 --> 01:03:58,250
But he was like, no, you need to

1817
01:03:58,250 --> 01:03:58,490
know.

1818
01:03:59,270 --> 01:04:01,230
And so at this point, your heart is

1819
01:04:01,230 --> 01:04:01,530
sinking.

1820
01:04:02,330 --> 01:04:04,310
And what is happening in front of you?

1821
01:04:05,310 --> 01:04:08,890
So Mahmoud is trying to ask the officer,

1822
01:04:09,090 --> 01:04:10,390
well, first he asked him, who are you

1823
01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:10,630
with?

1824
01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:12,270
He said Department of Homeland Security.

1825
01:04:13,150 --> 01:04:14,810
And then he asked him, can I see

1826
01:04:14,810 --> 01:04:15,270
a warrant?

1827
01:04:15,570 --> 01:04:17,930
The officer said he has one.

1828
01:04:18,110 --> 01:04:19,310
He's like, it's on my phone, but never

1829
01:04:19,310 --> 01:04:20,350
really showed it to us.

1830
01:04:21,170 --> 01:04:22,930
And then Mahmoud was holding the keys that

1831
01:04:22,930 --> 01:04:24,490
he had just used to open our apartment.

1832
01:04:24,690 --> 01:04:26,870
And the officer was like, give the keys

1833
01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:27,870
to your wife, basically.

1834
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:30,150
And I turned to the officer, I was

1835
01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:31,190
like, I'm not leaving him.

1836
01:04:32,050 --> 01:04:33,930
And the officer goes, I'll arrest you too.

1837
01:04:34,670 --> 01:04:37,870
Not one to speculate about personal finances, but

1838
01:04:37,870 --> 01:04:40,730
for a student at Columbia.

1839
01:04:40,930 --> 01:04:41,810
He's got an apartment.

1840
01:04:42,010 --> 01:04:43,670
I presume his wife is not working at

1841
01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:45,510
this moment as she's about to give birth.

1842
01:04:46,450 --> 01:04:47,190
She's a dentist.

1843
01:04:48,690 --> 01:04:50,070
That explains the apartment.

1844
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,220
And of course he mentions that he told

1845
01:04:55,220 --> 01:04:57,140
her about this two days before it happened.

1846
01:04:57,580 --> 01:04:57,860
Interesting.

1847
01:04:58,500 --> 01:04:59,900
How did he know that?

1848
01:04:59,980 --> 01:05:01,300
Well, let's play part two and then I'll

1849
01:05:01,300 --> 01:05:02,260
tell you what I think.

1850
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,200
But she's a U.S. citizen, right?

1851
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,040
Yeah, I mean, that's part of the reason

1852
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,120
she didn't take Mahmoud's warnings that he might

1853
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,320
be deported Seriously, she was born here.

1854
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,360
He's a lawful permanent resident.

1855
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:13,180
He has a green card.

1856
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,000
This, by the way, is quite the meme.

1857
01:05:16,340 --> 01:05:17,900
Lawful permanent resident.

1858
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:19,800
Lawful.

1859
01:05:20,380 --> 01:05:22,320
This is very important that they keep saying

1860
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:22,660
this.

1861
01:05:22,940 --> 01:05:24,480
Seriously, she was born here.

1862
01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:26,500
He's a lawful permanent resident.

1863
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:27,380
He has a green card.

1864
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,920
And she says, as most Americans do, she

1865
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,260
believed they had the right to say whatever

1866
01:05:32,260 --> 01:05:32,780
they wanted.

1867
01:05:32,820 --> 01:05:34,420
And he was using that right to speak

1868
01:05:34,420 --> 01:05:36,860
up about the treatment of his own people.

1869
01:05:36,860 --> 01:05:37,720
He's Palestinian.

1870
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,540
And now, Nora's in this position she never

1871
01:05:40,540 --> 01:05:43,580
could have imagined facing the possibility that she's

1872
01:05:43,580 --> 01:05:44,960
going to have this baby while her husband

1873
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,580
is detained in Louisiana or possibly deported.

1874
01:05:48,020 --> 01:05:50,440
The government is accusing him of supporting Hamas,

1875
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,440
which could amount to a violation of U

1876
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:52,880
.S. law.

1877
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:54,900
What does she say about those accusations?

1878
01:05:55,580 --> 01:05:57,480
Well, she says they've provided no evidence of

1879
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:58,500
that accusation.

1880
01:05:58,800 --> 01:05:59,160
No evidence.

1881
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,660
Because there isn't evidence.

1882
01:06:01,300 --> 01:06:02,820
He's also never been charged with an actual

1883
01:06:02,820 --> 01:06:03,120
crime.

1884
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:04,720
That would be a crime if he provided

1885
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:05,680
support to Hamas.

1886
01:06:06,020 --> 01:06:07,320
Here's more of what Nora said.

1887
01:06:07,540 --> 01:06:08,600
I just want to be clear that the

1888
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,700
smears against Mahmoud are exactly that.

1889
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:11,740
They're smears.

1890
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,000
He has and always will stand up for

1891
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:15,520
what's right.

1892
01:06:15,940 --> 01:06:17,520
And the way that he was taken from

1893
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,500
his family was not right.

1894
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,820
The government's actually arguing they can take his

1895
01:06:21,820 --> 01:06:24,300
green card under a rarely used immigration provision,

1896
01:06:24,460 --> 01:06:25,700
not because of a crime.

1897
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,720
I also asked her if her husband were

1898
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,580
allowed to return home tomorrow, let's say.

1899
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,260
Would she feel safe in the U.S.

1900
01:06:31,260 --> 01:06:32,280
after what's happened?

1901
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:33,100
And here's what she said.

1902
01:06:33,580 --> 01:06:34,440
I love this apartment.

1903
01:06:35,220 --> 01:06:37,140
And I love the place that we live.

1904
01:06:37,220 --> 01:06:41,180
But I think, unfortunately, they took away that

1905
01:06:41,180 --> 01:06:43,100
sense of security and that sense of safety,

1906
01:06:43,260 --> 01:06:43,980
at least for me.

1907
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:45,500
And I wasn't sure if she'd lost her

1908
01:06:45,500 --> 01:06:47,120
sense of safety in the apartment or the

1909
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:47,500
country.

1910
01:06:47,740 --> 01:06:49,540
So I asked, and she said both.

1911
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,740
Thank you so much for being with us.

1912
01:06:52,860 --> 01:06:53,620
Thanks for having me, Scott.

1913
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:54,640
Oh, thank you.

1914
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:55,700
It's in your DNA.

1915
01:06:55,700 --> 01:06:56,940
Thank you so much.

1916
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,500
The law is on the books, by the

1917
01:06:59,500 --> 01:06:59,760
way.

1918
01:07:01,060 --> 01:07:01,240
Yeah.

1919
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,480
It's a good bit.

1920
01:07:03,660 --> 01:07:04,240
It's a good bit.

1921
01:07:04,340 --> 01:07:05,120
This is a scam.

1922
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:05,900
Hold on.

1923
01:07:05,980 --> 01:07:06,800
Let's just read the law.

1924
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,940
Removal procedures under section 237A-4C-I of

1925
01:07:11,940 --> 01:07:15,020
the Immigration and Nationality Act, which permits deportation

1926
01:07:15,020 --> 01:07:18,260
of lawful residents if the Secretary of State

1927
01:07:18,260 --> 01:07:23,020
believes that their presence risks a potentially serious

1928
01:07:23,020 --> 01:07:25,560
adverse foreign policy consequence.

1929
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,440
It's a real law.

1930
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,320
You may not like it, but it's a

1931
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:31,820
real law.

1932
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,440
This has been known for a long time.

1933
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:37,100
This guy's a spook.

1934
01:07:38,260 --> 01:07:41,460
And this is either an extraction of Khalil,

1935
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,480
which I think it is.

1936
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,080
I think it's an extraction, but it could

1937
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:45,820
be other things.

1938
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,840
The fact of the matter is, let's look

1939
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:48,860
at this guy's background.

1940
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,860
And this is easy to discover.

1941
01:07:51,860 --> 01:07:52,840
It's not hard.

1942
01:07:54,020 --> 01:07:55,700
Yes, because I pointed it out to you.

1943
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,940
I would kind of condemn the intelligence agencies

1944
01:07:58,940 --> 01:08:01,120
for allowing this to be so easily discovered.

1945
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:02,980
I did it on two searches, and I

1946
01:08:02,980 --> 01:08:03,980
got very deep.

1947
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:06,420
It didn't take anything.

1948
01:08:06,540 --> 01:08:09,180
It's all public int, as they like to

1949
01:08:09,180 --> 01:08:09,520
call it.

1950
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:10,480
Human int.

1951
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:11,760
OS int.

1952
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,200
OS int.

1953
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:16,420
Yeah, open source int.

1954
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,260
That's right.

1955
01:08:18,740 --> 01:08:19,620
OS int.

1956
01:08:19,620 --> 01:08:20,479
OS int, yes.

1957
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:26,600
Khalil, I thought he was a Syrian, but

1958
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,779
it turns out he's an Algerian.

1959
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,120
He was born in a refugee camp in

1960
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,240
Damascus, Syria.

1961
01:08:33,500 --> 01:08:34,580
Two Palestinians.

1962
01:08:35,140 --> 01:08:36,720
They say, oh, he's a Palestinian.

1963
01:08:36,939 --> 01:08:38,300
He really never lived there.

1964
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:41,100
They fled to Lebanon.

1965
01:08:41,260 --> 01:08:44,020
He was in Lebanon after the civil war

1966
01:08:44,020 --> 01:08:44,460
began.

1967
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,939
Then there was a report on him from

1968
01:08:49,939 --> 01:08:51,939
this journalist, Lauren Bone.

1969
01:08:52,100 --> 01:08:52,939
B-O-H-N.

1970
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:53,880
You should look at her.

1971
01:08:54,260 --> 01:08:55,600
L-A-U-R-E-N B-O

1972
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:55,960
-H-N.

1973
01:08:56,060 --> 01:08:58,240
She's got something to do with the Atlantic

1974
01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:58,720
Council.

1975
01:08:58,859 --> 01:08:59,460
She's a journalist.

1976
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:00,899
You take one look at her, and you

1977
01:09:00,899 --> 01:09:02,319
go, oh, okay.

1978
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,680
There's a honeypot if I've ever seen one.

1979
01:09:06,899 --> 01:09:08,060
She met Khalil.

1980
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,560
This is right on the wiki page.

1981
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,840
Met Khalil in Beirut while reporting on the

1982
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,140
refugee crisis, and he referred to himself as

1983
01:09:16,140 --> 01:09:18,040
a double refugee, blah, blah, blah.

1984
01:09:18,140 --> 01:09:21,040
Goes on to report she reported that he

1985
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,439
taught himself English.

1986
01:09:22,540 --> 01:09:23,620
He's fluent, by the way.

1987
01:09:23,859 --> 01:09:25,359
It turns out, if you look into it,

1988
01:09:25,380 --> 01:09:26,600
he's a polyglot.

1989
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,540
He can speak a lot of languages.

1990
01:09:29,899 --> 01:09:33,340
He supposedly, through the American educational non-profit,

1991
01:09:33,620 --> 01:09:35,600
Junsor, which I've been looking into, but I

1992
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:36,899
haven't gotten too far, and I don't care.

1993
01:09:37,740 --> 01:09:40,500
Simultaneously, he earned a bachelor's degree in computer

1994
01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:41,420
science.

1995
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,080
He then worked for the British government Foreign

1996
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:50,920
Commonwealth and Development Office, managing a scholarship program

1997
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,440
that's very similar to the Rhodes Scholarship, from

1998
01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:57,960
the British Embassy in Beirut, and supporting diplomats

1999
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,100
with his language skills and local knowledge.

2000
01:10:00,460 --> 01:10:02,400
He immigrated to the U.S. on a

2001
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,400
student visa to attend SIPA.

2002
01:10:05,860 --> 01:10:07,600
Stop, stop, stop.

2003
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:08,840
Stop at SIPA.

2004
01:10:11,190 --> 01:10:14,890
Do you know who is the Shelby Column

2005
01:10:14,890 --> 01:10:18,950
Davis professor in practice of the International Diplomacy

2006
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:22,010
Directorate of the International Fellowship Program for SIPA?

2007
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:24,360
Who?

2008
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:29,040
Look, it is really very, very important that

2009
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,240
in this period...

2010
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,020
This is Victoria Newland.

2011
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:33,000
That's who it is.

2012
01:10:34,220 --> 01:10:35,420
She's at SIPA.

2013
01:10:35,980 --> 01:10:38,240
She's a professor at SIPA.

2014
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,140
I looked at the website.

2015
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,440
The whole thing says spook.

2016
01:10:43,220 --> 01:10:43,820
Yes.

2017
01:10:43,980 --> 01:10:45,940
In fact, I ran a, through one of

2018
01:10:45,940 --> 01:10:48,500
the AI systems, I ran a search on

2019
01:10:48,500 --> 01:10:48,800
this.

2020
01:10:49,140 --> 01:10:51,520
SIPA at Columbia University have any connections to

2021
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:52,740
the intelligence agencies.

2022
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:59,120
One, the curriculum and faculty, SIPA offers courses

2023
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,020
related to intelligence, such as intelligence and war,

2024
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,360
taught by faculty with backgrounds in intelligence, a

2025
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,900
former deputy assistant director of the CIA for

2026
01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:11,160
Europe and Eurasia, guest speakers and events.

2027
01:11:11,620 --> 01:11:15,000
SIPA frequently hosts events featuring prominent figures from

2028
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,320
the intelligence community, such as John Brennan, the

2029
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,140
former director of national television, Jim Clapper, career

2030
01:11:22,140 --> 01:11:22,540
paths.

2031
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,680
Many SIPA graduates pursue a career in U

2032
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:30,080
.S. and foreign government agencies, including intelligence roles,

2033
01:11:30,660 --> 01:11:31,220
recruitment.

2034
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,280
Anyway, it goes on and on and on,

2035
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,020
and it turns out that it's so obvious

2036
01:11:36,020 --> 01:11:37,680
that what was going on, because a guy

2037
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,100
gets a degree in computer science, doesn't all

2038
01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:42,760
of a sudden be attending SIPA at the

2039
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,060
age of 30, allowed to get his degree

2040
01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:46,940
before he's all of a sudden kicked out

2041
01:11:46,940 --> 01:11:47,620
of the country.

2042
01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:52,240
Now, either he was, what agency he works

2043
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:53,180
for, we don't know.

2044
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:54,880
He could be intelligent.

2045
01:11:55,220 --> 01:11:56,980
I think MI6 is what I'm thinking.

2046
01:11:57,100 --> 01:12:01,120
I would think MI6 sounds the most reasonable.

2047
01:12:01,420 --> 01:12:03,320
Because Victoria Nuland, you know, she's a five

2048
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:03,940
-eyes girl.

2049
01:12:04,340 --> 01:12:07,760
So she's there, not on the behest of

2050
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,920
the CIA anymore, I'm just presuming.

2051
01:12:10,220 --> 01:12:11,680
But she pops up everywhere.

2052
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:14,640
You know, she's ambassador to the National Endowment

2053
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,820
for Democracy, she's in USAID, she's in the

2054
01:12:17,820 --> 01:12:19,980
Council on Foreign Relations, and then she shows

2055
01:12:19,980 --> 01:12:20,860
up at SIPA?

2056
01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:22,500
Come on now.

2057
01:12:23,060 --> 01:12:25,000
This has got to be a five-eyes

2058
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,060
type counter-intel op from MI6.

2059
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,900
So they had to get this guy.

2060
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,280
So this guy, it looks like you pull

2061
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,220
him out, make a big fuss like they're

2062
01:12:34,220 --> 01:12:34,600
doing.

2063
01:12:34,740 --> 01:12:36,800
And by the way, again, I condemn the

2064
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,380
intelligence people for not being able to cover

2065
01:12:39,380 --> 01:12:40,000
this up better.

2066
01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:41,520
In two searches?

2067
01:12:42,660 --> 01:12:44,220
You can find all this out?

2068
01:12:44,380 --> 01:12:46,640
I mean, you can just imagine what the

2069
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:47,640
Chinese can do.

2070
01:12:48,340 --> 01:12:50,460
And I mentioned something that happened at the

2071
01:12:50,460 --> 01:12:51,540
dinner table last Friday.

2072
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,700
JC, who is in AI, said that the

2073
01:12:55,700 --> 01:12:58,300
Chinese AI stuff, it's not what you think.

2074
01:12:58,500 --> 01:12:59,840
It's a lot better.

2075
01:13:00,460 --> 01:13:01,600
It's better than this.

2076
01:13:01,700 --> 01:13:03,240
He looked at the algos and he looked

2077
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,560
at the neural networks they're creating.

2078
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,680
They're superior to what we have.

2079
01:13:07,740 --> 01:13:09,460
So if I can find out about SIPA

2080
01:13:09,460 --> 01:13:11,820
and this character with a couple of simple

2081
01:13:11,820 --> 01:13:13,700
searches, the Chinese already know.

2082
01:13:14,500 --> 01:13:16,680
And he says that the Chinese are ahead

2083
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,120
of us by a number of years.

2084
01:13:18,220 --> 01:13:20,820
He says, luckily for us, for the Americans,

2085
01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:23,900
the Chinese government has all of a sudden

2086
01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:27,240
taken note of this and they've screwed up.

2087
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,900
They've decided this is so important that they're

2088
01:13:30,900 --> 01:13:33,740
not going to allow their scientists, their AI

2089
01:13:33,740 --> 01:13:34,820
scientists access to it.

2090
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,600
No, they've got access to it in China.

2091
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,320
They won't allow them to go to the

2092
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,420
international conferences and there's a big confab coming

2093
01:13:43,420 --> 01:13:45,780
up in the next few months where all

2094
01:13:45,780 --> 01:13:48,280
the world's guys, all these guys come together

2095
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,360
because they've got nothing but money except the

2096
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:52,760
Chinese.

2097
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:53,940
They're not going to show up and so

2098
01:13:53,940 --> 01:13:56,020
they're going to lose out because of the

2099
01:13:56,020 --> 01:13:57,320
way you've been to these things.

2100
01:13:58,020 --> 01:13:58,980
It's groupthink.

2101
01:13:59,220 --> 01:14:02,080
Everyone gets together and they all exchange information.

2102
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,880
They all think the same afterwards and they're

2103
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:04,920
all ahead of the game.

2104
01:14:05,220 --> 01:14:06,140
It really works well.

2105
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,820
So this guy is working for someone, MI6

2106
01:14:09,820 --> 01:14:11,460
probably, I would agree.

2107
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,920
And this is an extraction that makes him

2108
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:14,300
look good.

2109
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,100
He can be reassigned to something else and

2110
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:16,780
he looks legit.

2111
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:20,100
And I have one other report here which

2112
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:23,000
shows that this is not about...

2113
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,120
And by the way, to the guy who

2114
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,420
wrote us the note about the Bing guy

2115
01:14:27,420 --> 01:14:28,340
or whatever his name is.

2116
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:29,120
Blockman Bing.

2117
01:14:29,340 --> 01:14:32,280
This is the kind of stupid stooge that

2118
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,600
is out there in the public that believes

2119
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,800
everything they're told without thinking twice about it.

2120
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:39,620
And it took me no time to figure

2121
01:14:39,620 --> 01:14:40,180
this out.

2122
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:41,700
Yeah, I mean, you just sent me the

2123
01:14:41,700 --> 01:14:43,500
wiki page and I didn't get past the

2124
01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:45,920
first paragraph and went, oh, SIPA.

2125
01:14:46,340 --> 01:14:49,100
And then Pure Providence, I get that video

2126
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:54,160
from Victoria Nuland speaking at SIPA about weapons

2127
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:55,840
for Ukraine, this and that.

2128
01:14:56,380 --> 01:15:02,140
And so then here's a clip from ABC,

2129
01:15:02,980 --> 01:15:04,460
and I think they're cleaning house.

2130
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:06,700
They're cleaning house of all of the spooks.

2131
01:15:06,940 --> 01:15:09,460
There's a couple more, some just fleeing the

2132
01:15:09,460 --> 01:15:11,960
country, and it's not just Colombia.

2133
01:15:12,220 --> 01:15:15,260
We've ended the tyranny of so-called diversity,

2134
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,380
equity, and inclusion policies all across the entire

2135
01:15:18,380 --> 01:15:18,480
federal government.

2136
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:20,800
The United States President Donald Trump is targeting

2137
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,500
DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion programs.

2138
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,460
U.S. Education Secretary Lindsey McMahon on Friday.

2139
01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:28,600
I'm sorry, that's the wrong one.

2140
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:29,820
This is the one I meant to play.

2141
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,400
This is cell phone video of the Saturday

2142
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,400
arrest of Mahmoud Khalil.

2143
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,680
It was all his eight-month pregnant wife

2144
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,040
could do when ICE agents showed up at

2145
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:39,880
their front door.

2146
01:15:40,260 --> 01:15:42,220
Mahmoud is not here on a student visa.

2147
01:15:42,660 --> 01:15:45,100
He was previously, but he had become a

2148
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:46,120
lawful permanent resident.

2149
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,760
When I mentioned this to the ICE agents,

2150
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:54,480
he said that the Secretary of State was

2151
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:55,480
revoking that too.

2152
01:15:55,620 --> 01:15:57,920
Now a second student has been arrested, Lika

2153
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:58,500
Cordia.

2154
01:15:58,900 --> 01:16:01,560
She and Khalil accused of supporting the terrorist

2155
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,020
activities of Hamas.

2156
01:16:04,660 --> 01:16:07,260
Lika Cordia, who first entered the U.S.

2157
01:16:07,300 --> 01:16:10,720
in 2016 on a tourism visa, obtained a

2158
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,200
student visa the next year.

2159
01:16:12,700 --> 01:16:15,540
In 2021, it was terminated because she never

2160
01:16:15,540 --> 01:16:17,320
showed up at school.

2161
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:18,980
That's funny.

2162
01:16:19,140 --> 01:16:21,740
That reminds me of the agency show where

2163
01:16:21,740 --> 01:16:26,000
the African woman never shows up at school.

2164
01:16:26,340 --> 01:16:27,420
I want to mention one other thing.

2165
01:16:27,420 --> 01:16:28,280
Let me finish this.

2166
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:29,440
There's 49 seconds left.

2167
01:16:29,620 --> 01:16:30,080
There's more.

2168
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,540
Supporting the terrorist activities of Hamas for taking

2169
01:16:33,540 --> 01:16:36,060
part in the Hamilton Hall takeover last April.

2170
01:16:36,420 --> 01:16:39,680
The Ivy League institution announcing today that 22

2171
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,000
students have now been sanctioned for the events

2172
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,920
of last year, ranging from multi-year suspensions,

2173
01:16:45,500 --> 01:16:48,220
temporary degree revocations, and expulsions.

2174
01:16:48,580 --> 01:16:50,560
The disciplinary action that has been taken against

2175
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,760
these students is coming far, far too late.

2176
01:16:53,860 --> 01:16:56,860
A third student, Ranjani Srinivasan, is seen rushing

2177
01:16:56,860 --> 01:16:59,420
to catch a flight at LaGuardia Airport back

2178
01:16:59,420 --> 01:17:00,240
home to India.

2179
01:17:00,420 --> 01:17:03,520
Her visa revoked a week ago by DHS.

2180
01:17:03,700 --> 01:17:06,320
We have to draw the line here at

2181
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,480
Columbia to say they cannot get away with

2182
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:11,960
this, and we have to mobilize people from

2183
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,240
within the university, from within the community.

2184
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,620
Protests continue outside the gates of Columbia University,

2185
01:17:17,860 --> 01:17:21,160
not backing down, despite the latest escalation by

2186
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:22,140
the Trump administration.

2187
01:17:22,440 --> 01:17:23,800
I don't need to play it, but I

2188
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,000
think they're using DEI to root all this

2189
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,300
out and to cut funding to these universities.

2190
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,060
Johns Hopkins, more than 2,000 people fired.

2191
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:37,560
The federal government has been paying these universities,

2192
01:17:37,860 --> 01:17:39,520
and that's what's been supporting a lot of

2193
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:40,260
this nonsense.

2194
01:17:40,460 --> 01:17:43,320
I think that the whole Hamas protest movement

2195
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:44,900
may be a government op.

2196
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:46,800
Could very well likely be.

2197
01:17:47,460 --> 01:17:49,940
And let me mention this guy's wife, the

2198
01:17:49,940 --> 01:17:52,360
dentist, Khalil's wife.

2199
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,520
I want to just read this, and if

2200
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,540
this doesn't sound like something dubious, I don't

2201
01:17:56,540 --> 01:17:57,160
know what does.

2202
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,880
The couple had met in 2016, this is

2203
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,000
the dentist woman, when Abdallah was her name,

2204
01:18:02,440 --> 01:18:05,160
joined a volunteer program, she's an American, she's

2205
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,980
an American, joined a volunteer program that Khalil

2206
01:18:08,980 --> 01:18:11,280
was overseeing in Lebanon.

2207
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,400
Oh yeah, that's what students do.

2208
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,080
That's what students do.

2209
01:18:15,500 --> 01:18:17,620
They're expecting their first child in late April

2210
01:18:17,620 --> 01:18:20,220
2025, so they're having a kid, but okay,

2211
01:18:20,300 --> 01:18:23,080
so they had a long distance relationship while

2212
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,880
he's in Lebanon, she's over here.

2213
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,340
This is just bullcrap.

2214
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:33,020
I spot the spook, spot the spook, everybody

2215
01:18:33,020 --> 01:18:35,780
wants to spot the spook.

2216
01:18:36,180 --> 01:18:39,820
Yeah, yeah baby.

2217
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,280
So along these lines, along these lines, something

2218
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:49,340
else happened, which is kind of almost like

2219
01:18:49,340 --> 01:18:52,260
the other shoe dropping.

2220
01:18:53,620 --> 01:18:55,980
President Trump went to the Department of Justice,

2221
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,020
oh, no president ever speaks there, that you're

2222
01:18:59,020 --> 01:19:01,360
supposed to show independence, it's not good, what's

2223
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:01,760
he doing?

2224
01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:06,760
They found out about Operation Arctic Freeze, I

2225
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,300
don't have any clips of it, but Operation

2226
01:19:09,300 --> 01:19:12,340
Arctic Freeze is where during the Biden administration,

2227
01:19:12,500 --> 01:19:18,520
they seized the cell phones of at that

2228
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,160
point, former President Trump and a couple other

2229
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,020
people, and the FBI was just rooting through

2230
01:19:24,020 --> 01:19:25,840
it, just looking at whatever they wanted to,

2231
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:26,980
so they could, you know, that's how the

2232
01:19:26,980 --> 01:19:29,040
whole Jack, what's the guy's name?

2233
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:29,940
Smith.

2234
01:19:30,140 --> 01:19:32,420
I want to say Jack White, Jack Smith,

2235
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,860
you know, that's where that all came from,

2236
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,360
from stuff on the cell phone.

2237
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,740
But the president wrote up another executive order,

2238
01:19:40,300 --> 01:19:42,300
and this is a bit of a prelude

2239
01:19:42,300 --> 01:19:42,840
to it here.

2240
01:19:42,860 --> 01:19:44,660
This is the Voice of America's continuous...

2241
01:19:44,660 --> 01:19:46,840
Trump now, as part of instructions for certain

2242
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,500
federal agencies to reduce their operations to the

2243
01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:52,920
bare minimum, has taken on publicly funded broadcasters,

2244
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,240
signing an executive order aimed at the U

2245
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,560
.S. agency for global media, which houses Voice

2246
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,480
of America and other radio stations.

2247
01:19:59,980 --> 01:20:02,940
On Saturday, former news anchor Carrie Lake, Trump's

2248
01:20:02,940 --> 01:20:05,720
senior advisor to the agency, posted on X

2249
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,680
that employees should check their email.

2250
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:10,740
That coincided with notices going out placing Voice

2251
01:20:10,740 --> 01:20:13,360
of America staff on paid administrative leave.

2252
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,500
Reporters Without Borders says that the Trump administration's

2253
01:20:16,500 --> 01:20:18,980
decision is the latest abandonment of the U

2254
01:20:18,980 --> 01:20:22,080
.S.'s historic role in championing press freedom.

2255
01:20:22,420 --> 01:20:27,760
If America steps away from free press and

2256
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:32,220
abandons all the outlets that were broadcasting abroad,

2257
01:20:32,540 --> 01:20:35,680
we will see the increase, which we're already

2258
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,060
seeing on social media, of propaganda.

2259
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,760
And America's geopolitical enemies are just waiting for

2260
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:42,960
that.

2261
01:20:43,020 --> 01:20:45,140
This is the biggest present Donald Trump could

2262
01:20:45,140 --> 01:20:47,120
ever give to Vladimir Putin.

2263
01:20:47,620 --> 01:20:50,380
Voice of America is an international media broadcaster

2264
01:20:50,380 --> 01:20:52,600
that operates in more than 40 languages.

2265
01:20:53,340 --> 01:20:56,600
The agency for global media also funds Radio

2266
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,400
Free Europe, Radio Liberty, and Radio Free Asia.

2267
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,720
The reductions are especially provocative because the agency

2268
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:06,080
is independent, chartered by Congress, which passed a

2269
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,060
law in 2020 limiting the power of the

2270
01:21:08,060 --> 01:21:10,520
agency's presidentially appointed executives.

2271
01:21:10,940 --> 01:21:14,540
Washington, D.C. I was already wondering, why

2272
01:21:14,540 --> 01:21:16,740
do they make Carrie Lake head of the

2273
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,480
United States government media organization?

2274
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,780
I have two Voice of America clips.

2275
01:21:23,820 --> 01:21:24,980
Hold on, let me just read, I just

2276
01:21:24,980 --> 01:21:25,720
want to read something.

2277
01:21:26,540 --> 01:21:29,320
The reason, so you recall the Smith-Mundt

2278
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,220
Act, which meant, hey, the government can't propagandize

2279
01:21:32,220 --> 01:21:34,100
our own people in the United States.

2280
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:36,640
You know, gee, isn't it great that we

2281
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,880
have Voice of America to propagandize other countries?

2282
01:21:40,460 --> 01:21:44,160
It was overturned in 2012 under President Obama

2283
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,440
and that was shoved into the National Defense

2284
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:48,320
Authorization Act.

2285
01:21:48,500 --> 01:21:53,240
Just a reminder, what that what the change

2286
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,420
was about and just one paragraph, the Act

2287
01:21:56,420 --> 01:21:58,780
was developed to regulate broadcasting of programs for

2288
01:21:58,780 --> 01:22:01,100
foreign audiences produced under the guidance of the

2289
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:04,420
State Department and it prohibited domestic dissemination of

2290
01:22:04,420 --> 01:22:06,780
materials produced by such programs as one of

2291
01:22:06,780 --> 01:22:07,360
its provisions.

2292
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,900
The original version of the Act was amended

2293
01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:12,900
by the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012,

2294
01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:16,180
which allowed for materials produced by the State

2295
01:22:16,180 --> 01:22:19,380
Department at the time, Hillary Clinton, and the

2296
01:22:19,380 --> 01:22:22,280
Broadcasting Board of Governors, which is Voice of

2297
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,160
America, Voice of Europe, and at one point

2298
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,540
was run by Tucker Carlson's dad, to be

2299
01:22:26,540 --> 01:22:28,960
made available within the United States.

2300
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,780
This was propaganda that was being bestowed upon

2301
01:22:32,780 --> 01:22:36,360
people in America by a rather large media

2302
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:40,260
organization filled with nut jobs or as the

2303
01:22:40,260 --> 01:22:44,320
White House wrote, the Voice of Radical America!

2304
01:22:45,740 --> 01:22:48,180
President Trump's executive order on Friday will ensure

2305
01:22:48,180 --> 01:22:50,100
that taxpayers are no longer on the hook

2306
01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:51,320
for radical propaganda!

2307
01:22:52,700 --> 01:22:54,860
So yes, this is a very good thing.

2308
01:22:55,300 --> 01:22:55,960
Get rid of it.

2309
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,880
And I think that's why President Trump keeps

2310
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,920
saying, you know, MSNBC, what they're doing is

2311
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,520
illegal, although they're not part of the, unless

2312
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:06,880
they're being paid by the government.

2313
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:08,380
Well, you never know.

2314
01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:09,860
It's USAID money.

2315
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:15,720
Well, the, this executive order defunded and does

2316
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,880
away with, see if you catch anything, the

2317
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:22,280
Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service, the United States

2318
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,780
Agency for Global Media, that's the Voice of

2319
01:23:25,780 --> 01:23:29,560
America, the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars

2320
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,340
in the Smithsonian Institute.

2321
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,500
Isn't that that former Republican lady who runs

2322
01:23:34,500 --> 01:23:36,020
that, the Woodrow Wilson Institute?

2323
01:23:36,140 --> 01:23:37,600
I didn't know anything about that.

2324
01:23:38,020 --> 01:23:40,460
Ah, yeah, yeah, she's, I forget her name.

2325
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:42,820
I can tell you I forget her name.

2326
01:23:44,020 --> 01:23:45,100
Woodrow Wilson.

2327
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,680
No, I can't, I guess, Wilson.

2328
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,060
Anyway, it doesn't matter.

2329
01:23:51,780 --> 01:23:52,700
I can't remember her name.

2330
01:23:53,220 --> 01:23:56,360
The Institute of Museum and Library Services, the

2331
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:00,940
United States Interagency Council on Homelessness, there's a

2332
01:24:00,940 --> 01:24:05,220
good one, the Community Development Financial Institutions Fund,

2333
01:24:06,260 --> 01:24:09,400
and the Minority Business Development Agency.

2334
01:24:10,300 --> 01:24:12,580
So these were all defunded.

2335
01:24:12,980 --> 01:24:14,820
And probably with good reason.

2336
01:24:15,540 --> 01:24:17,680
Yeah, they didn't do anything except pass money

2337
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:18,640
around to their pals.

2338
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:20,220
So I have two clips.

2339
01:24:20,860 --> 01:24:23,920
I have the BBC clip, which is unfortunately

2340
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:25,840
says V instead of VOA.

2341
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,640
And I think probably the shortest clip, they

2342
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,200
just throw it out there, is the NPR

2343
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:32,500
clip.

2344
01:24:32,580 --> 01:24:34,400
Let's play that first, then the BBC clip.

2345
01:24:34,700 --> 01:24:34,820
Okay.

2346
01:24:35,060 --> 01:24:37,040
Employees of the Voice of America showed up

2347
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,720
at work today to learn they've been locked

2348
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:39,020
out.

2349
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,280
President Trump last night ordered its parent agency,

2350
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,300
the U.S. Agency for Global Media, to

2351
01:24:45,300 --> 01:24:47,840
eliminate all activities not required by law.

2352
01:24:48,460 --> 01:24:50,540
More than a thousand full-time workers at

2353
01:24:50,540 --> 01:24:52,720
the Voice of America and radio and television,

2354
01:24:52,940 --> 01:24:54,120
Marti, were affected.

2355
01:24:54,580 --> 01:24:54,780
What?

2356
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:56,080
A thousand.

2357
01:24:56,440 --> 01:24:58,720
A thousand people work at Voice of America.

2358
01:24:58,860 --> 01:24:59,480
Doing what?

2359
01:24:59,780 --> 01:25:00,940
A thousand people.

2360
01:25:01,220 --> 01:25:02,920
That's a lot of podcasts, baby.

2361
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,640
So, I did a Voice of America broadcast

2362
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:08,100
once.

2363
01:25:08,180 --> 01:25:08,620
Oh, really?

2364
01:25:09,180 --> 01:25:11,480
Yeah, some years back when I had my

2365
01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:15,100
telecommunications book and I was doing a media

2366
01:25:15,100 --> 01:25:15,480
tour.

2367
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:16,600
Now that I think about it, I think

2368
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,420
I was, when podcasting was popping, I think

2369
01:25:19,420 --> 01:25:21,000
I was interviewed by Voice of America.

2370
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:22,860
Yeah, I was actually in their studios.

2371
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:23,620
Oh, no, no.

2372
01:25:23,700 --> 01:25:25,100
It was a phoner for me, baby.

2373
01:25:25,260 --> 01:25:25,760
Just a phoner.

2374
01:25:25,940 --> 01:25:28,180
In fact, the studios were so cool because

2375
01:25:28,180 --> 01:25:29,980
they were just, every time I go to

2376
01:25:29,980 --> 01:25:32,140
some public radio thing, they're throwing stuff out.

2377
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,270
This is the Voice of America broadcasting propaganda

2378
01:25:36,780 --> 01:25:38,120
around the world.

2379
01:25:39,220 --> 01:25:42,200
So, they were throwing out these IBM clocks.

2380
01:25:43,480 --> 01:25:44,600
I grabbed one.

2381
01:25:44,740 --> 01:25:45,360
I have it still.

2382
01:25:45,380 --> 01:25:47,040
The synchronized clocks?

2383
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:47,680
Yes, exactly.

2384
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:48,560
Oh, those are beautiful.

2385
01:25:48,820 --> 01:25:50,280
The synchro clocks.

2386
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:51,260
Oh, those are beautiful.

2387
01:25:51,900 --> 01:25:53,920
And it's a big clock and it says

2388
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,860
IBM on it because IBM used to make

2389
01:25:55,860 --> 01:25:57,760
them and they don't anymore, obviously.

2390
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,160
It's like the IBM butcher scales used to

2391
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:00,800
make those, too.

2392
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,980
And the clock goes click, click, click.

2393
01:26:05,740 --> 01:26:07,640
And you have to get a little adapter

2394
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,540
for it because it works on 50 cycles

2395
01:26:09,540 --> 01:26:10,060
or something.

2396
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,240
It's very screwy.

2397
01:26:11,740 --> 01:26:13,820
And they're all synced throughout the building as

2398
01:26:13,820 --> 01:26:15,200
they had a big pile of these.

2399
01:26:15,340 --> 01:26:16,000
I said, what are these?

2400
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:17,220
They said, oh, those are the synchro clocks.

2401
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:17,980
We don't use them anymore.

2402
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,140
We've gone digital and they have these digital

2403
01:26:20,140 --> 01:26:20,780
clocks now.

2404
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:22,740
And so, I said, what are you going

2405
01:26:22,740 --> 01:26:23,240
to do with them?

2406
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:25,780
They're going to get thrown out.

2407
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:26,720
I said, can I have one?

2408
01:26:26,820 --> 01:26:27,540
Yeah, sure.

2409
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,200
But you didn't get the synchronizer though, did

2410
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:29,360
you?

2411
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:31,080
No, I didn't.

2412
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,280
No, but I got the plans for it.

2413
01:26:35,420 --> 01:26:37,980
And 30 years later, we still have to

2414
01:26:37,980 --> 01:26:39,220
heat up the soldering iron.

2415
01:26:39,540 --> 01:26:40,040
But it's coming.

2416
01:26:40,580 --> 01:26:42,800
But you have the clock and it's like

2417
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,040
click, click, click, click.

2418
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:48,460
I know the Dutch Broadcasting Corporation had the

2419
01:26:48,460 --> 01:26:49,420
same I don't know what it was from.

2420
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,400
It must have been from Siemens, probably.

2421
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:52,860
They had the same system.

2422
01:26:52,980 --> 01:26:56,040
Big clock, huge second hand click, click, all

2423
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:56,480
synchronized.

2424
01:26:56,480 --> 01:26:57,760
Click, click, click.

2425
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:58,580
Yeah, it was really cool.

2426
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,900
Yes, so that was interesting.

2427
01:27:01,180 --> 01:27:02,400
Big studios.

2428
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,880
They definitely had money to spend.

2429
01:27:05,260 --> 01:27:07,320
So, here's the BBC's version of the same,

2430
01:27:07,620 --> 01:27:09,180
you all got fired clip.

2431
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,220
President Trump has taken steps to slash the

2432
01:27:12,220 --> 01:27:14,720
U.S. government's foreign broadcasting effort.

2433
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,480
More than a thousand Voice of America journalists

2434
01:27:17,480 --> 01:27:20,740
are being put on administrative leave and funding

2435
01:27:20,740 --> 01:27:23,640
for its sister services is being halted immediately.

2436
01:27:23,940 --> 01:27:25,260
More from Peter Hyatt.

2437
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,160
VOA and its sister services aimed at Europe,

2438
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,040
Asia and Cuba were set up to spread

2439
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,140
American values and accurate news to societies which

2440
01:27:33,140 --> 01:27:35,540
didn't have them, especially during the Cold War.

2441
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,000
They have an estimated 400 million listeners.

2442
01:27:38,380 --> 01:27:40,560
But some Republicans say the stations are biased

2443
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:41,500
against conservatives.

2444
01:27:42,060 --> 01:27:44,260
And now their new ultimate boss, Carrie Lake,

2445
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,240
has said they're being streamlined to what the

2446
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,140
law requires in order to eliminate waste, fraud

2447
01:27:49,140 --> 01:27:49,740
and abuse.

2448
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,800
The U.S. government isn't saying whether the

2449
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,020
stations, which are broadly equivalent to the BBC

2450
01:27:54,020 --> 01:27:56,160
World Service, are being closed down completely.

2451
01:27:56,480 --> 01:27:58,500
But the director of VOA says he and

2452
01:27:58,500 --> 01:28:00,860
virtually his entire staff of 1,300 people

2453
01:28:00,860 --> 01:28:02,980
have been put on indefinite paid leave.

2454
01:28:03,380 --> 01:28:04,500
Oh, paid leave?

2455
01:28:04,660 --> 01:28:06,480
They're going to be podcasting.

2456
01:28:07,460 --> 01:28:08,700
They're going to be podcasting.

2457
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,560
Yeah, well, you're on paid leave there, you

2458
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:11,360
might as well go podcast.

2459
01:28:11,780 --> 01:28:13,280
Just about clocks for a second.

2460
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,580
Researchers at Edinburgh University have tested the ability

2461
01:28:17,580 --> 01:28:21,240
of seven well-known multimodal large language models.

2462
01:28:21,980 --> 01:28:24,180
And it turns out, if you give them,

2463
01:28:24,300 --> 01:28:27,760
if you give these multimodal, because that means

2464
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,780
they can look at pictures, if you give

2465
01:28:29,780 --> 01:28:32,340
them a picture of an analog clock and

2466
01:28:32,340 --> 01:28:34,380
ask it what time is it, it can't

2467
01:28:34,380 --> 01:28:34,980
tell you.

2468
01:28:35,780 --> 01:28:36,800
Oh, it's just like a millennial.

2469
01:28:37,620 --> 01:28:38,060
Exactly.

2470
01:28:38,420 --> 01:28:39,560
Or Gen Z.

2471
01:28:39,780 --> 01:28:41,340
It's the Gen Z's that can't read clocks.

2472
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:42,640
It can't tell time.

2473
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:47,400
Which I thought was kind of poetic somehow.

2474
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:49,980
It is kind of poetic because it's so

2475
01:28:49,980 --> 01:28:50,600
screwy.

2476
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:52,740
Yeah, it can't...

2477
01:28:52,740 --> 01:28:55,080
No, if you think about time, dialing time,

2478
01:28:55,220 --> 01:28:57,380
if you really think about and you understand

2479
01:28:57,380 --> 01:28:59,820
that the Gen Z's call it, you know,

2480
01:28:59,860 --> 01:29:03,040
reading clock, it is kind of screwy.

2481
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,060
They fed the models different images of analog

2482
01:29:06,060 --> 01:29:09,360
clocks, timekeepers with Roman numerals, which really screwed

2483
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,160
it up, different dial colors, even some missing

2484
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,280
the second hand, as well as 10 years,

2485
01:29:15,340 --> 01:29:17,400
they can't even figure out calendar images.

2486
01:29:18,540 --> 01:29:20,880
It can't look at a calendar and then

2487
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,440
parse next week from it.

2488
01:29:26,060 --> 01:29:29,320
Just what you get when you train it

2489
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:30,440
on Reddit, I guess.

2490
01:29:31,340 --> 01:29:33,000
Before we move on, just because I have

2491
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:34,880
it, let me just play this SIPA clip

2492
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:36,880
from Victoria Newland that might lead us into

2493
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,040
another topic here.

2494
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:43,740
This is her as the professor of international

2495
01:29:43,740 --> 01:29:49,240
diplomacy, director of international fellow program at Columbia

2496
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:50,080
SIPA.

2497
01:29:50,300 --> 01:29:54,040
Look, it is really very, very important.

2498
01:29:54,480 --> 01:29:57,360
I don't think we ever explained what SIPA

2499
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:58,400
stands for.

2500
01:29:58,420 --> 01:29:58,780
Okay.

2501
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:01,880
It's the school of international...

2502
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:03,200
Now I forgot.

2503
01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:04,220
Now I can look it up.

2504
01:30:04,340 --> 01:30:04,740
I have it here.

2505
01:30:04,900 --> 01:30:07,540
School of international public affairs.

2506
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:08,700
Yes.

2507
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:10,540
International public affairs.

2508
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:11,780
Which is code for spook.

2509
01:30:11,780 --> 01:30:12,620
Spook school.

2510
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:14,440
Why would a computer scientist go there?

2511
01:30:14,480 --> 01:30:15,180
It makes no sense.

2512
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:15,740
Spook school.

2513
01:30:15,940 --> 01:30:20,020
Look, it is really very, very important that

2514
01:30:20,020 --> 01:30:23,680
in this period that Europe not only be

2515
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,040
able to step up but step up fast

2516
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:31,640
because as the artillery shells run out, as

2517
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,880
the air defense interceptors run out, as the

2518
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,360
ability to produce drones at scale which have

2519
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:40,660
made the difference for Ukraine on the battlefield

2520
01:30:40,660 --> 01:30:45,020
gets harder, Europe has the capacity not only

2521
01:30:45,020 --> 01:30:49,580
with these proposals but conceivably collateralizing against frozen

2522
01:30:49,580 --> 01:30:52,520
assets that they are holding of Putin's at

2523
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,800
least for a short time to do more

2524
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:55,780
and to do it fast.

2525
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,800
The thing that's concerning me most today is

2526
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,820
the cutoff of intelligence streams from the United

2527
01:31:01,820 --> 01:31:05,480
States and pressure on allies like the UK

2528
01:31:05,480 --> 01:31:08,720
not to use US intelligence for their own

2529
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:09,180
weapons.

2530
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,900
The primary purpose of US intelligence has been

2531
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:17,680
to help the Ukrainians see Russian attacks coming

2532
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,700
and have advanced warning.

2533
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,600
There are also key weapons systems that do

2534
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:24,920
not cue and do not hit their targets

2535
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:29,220
without support from US satellite cueing and the

2536
01:31:29,220 --> 01:31:30,880
military GPS system.

2537
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:32,960
So people are going to die.

2538
01:31:33,220 --> 01:31:34,540
Ukrainians are going to die.

2539
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:35,320
More of them.

2540
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:39,980
If this pause lasts significantly longer.

2541
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:44,140
It is dangerous and it's not a capability

2542
01:31:44,140 --> 01:31:47,880
that Europe can replace with any kind of

2543
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:48,180
speed.

2544
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:49,340
That's correct.

2545
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:55,160
Imagine my delight and my joy Friday as

2546
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,300
I'm sitting down to do the podcasting 2

2547
01:31:57,300 --> 01:32:00,480
.0 board meeting podcast and I see on

2548
01:32:00,480 --> 01:32:04,260
my quad screen Mark Ritter in the White

2549
01:32:04,260 --> 01:32:04,660
House.

2550
01:32:04,940 --> 01:32:06,180
Hello Mr. President.

2551
01:32:06,500 --> 01:32:07,460
This is great.

2552
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,920
I am your number one sales guy.

2553
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,560
First of all thank you so much Mr.

2554
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:14,620
President dear Donald again for hosting me.

2555
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,040
Dear Donald dear Donald.

2556
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,940
Hey dear Donald Dear Donald thank you dear

2557
01:32:19,940 --> 01:32:20,320
Donald.

2558
01:32:20,500 --> 01:32:23,040
For hosting me and also for taking time

2559
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:25,440
in Florida a couple of weeks after you

2560
01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:26,280
were re-elected.

2561
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:28,920
And of course our phone call a couple

2562
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:29,560
of weeks ago.

2563
01:32:29,740 --> 01:32:31,480
You see he had phone calls with Mark

2564
01:32:31,480 --> 01:32:33,300
to talk about the sales program.

2565
01:32:33,660 --> 01:32:39,060
And I must say Trump 45 you basically

2566
01:32:40,420 --> 01:32:43,100
you originated the fact that in Europe you're

2567
01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:44,840
now spending when you take it to aggregate

2568
01:32:45,740 --> 01:32:47,940
700 billion more on defense than when you

2569
01:32:47,940 --> 01:32:50,160
came in office in 2016, 2017.

2570
01:32:50,380 --> 01:32:51,800
But that was Trump 45.

2571
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,020
But then when you look at Trump 47.

2572
01:32:54,140 --> 01:32:54,840
It's going to be hard to tell.

2573
01:32:54,860 --> 01:32:57,080
What happened the last couple of weeks is

2574
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:58,140
really staggering.

2575
01:32:58,760 --> 01:32:59,200
Staggering!

2576
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,360
It is staggering Mr. President.

2577
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:03,000
I cannot believe the numbers.

2578
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,480
What happened the last couple of weeks is

2579
01:33:05,480 --> 01:33:06,560
really staggering.

2580
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,640
The Europeans committing to a package of 800

2581
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:10,780
billion defense spending.

2582
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,980
The Germans now have potentially up to half

2583
01:33:13,980 --> 01:33:16,100
a trillion extra in defense spending.

2584
01:33:16,220 --> 01:33:17,940
And then of course you have Keir Starmer

2585
01:33:17,940 --> 01:33:19,640
here, the British Prime Minister and others.

2586
01:33:19,860 --> 01:33:21,840
All committing to much higher defense spending.

2587
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:22,460
We're not there.

2588
01:33:22,940 --> 01:33:23,680
We need to do more.

2589
01:33:24,060 --> 01:33:24,800
Oh we need more?

2590
01:33:24,900 --> 01:33:25,520
We need more?

2591
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,600
I'm going back out soon Mr. Donald dear

2592
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:27,940
Donald.

2593
01:33:28,100 --> 01:33:28,660
Get more.

2594
01:33:28,820 --> 01:33:30,540
All committing to much higher defense spending.

2595
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:31,120
We're not there.

2596
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:32,360
We need to do more.

2597
01:33:32,540 --> 01:33:34,160
But I really want to work together with

2598
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:35,860
you in a run up to the D

2599
01:33:35,860 --> 01:33:37,380
-Day summit to make sure that we will

2600
01:33:37,380 --> 01:33:41,380
have a NATO which is really reinvigorated under

2601
01:33:41,380 --> 01:33:42,080
your leadership.

2602
01:33:42,620 --> 01:33:43,440
And we are getting there.

2603
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:44,720
Yes we are getting there.

2604
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,140
Almost achieved my goals.

2605
01:33:46,620 --> 01:33:50,200
We also discussed defense production because we need

2606
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:51,600
to produce more weaponry.

2607
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:52,440
We are not doing enough.

2608
01:33:52,480 --> 01:33:52,920
Yes.

2609
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:53,780
Not in the US.

2610
01:33:54,260 --> 01:33:56,240
We're not we're not doing enough.

2611
01:33:56,340 --> 01:33:57,340
We had to do more.

2612
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:58,380
Much much more.

2613
01:33:58,600 --> 01:33:59,340
Use more weaponry.

2614
01:33:59,480 --> 01:34:00,320
We are not doing enough.

2615
01:34:00,860 --> 01:34:01,520
Not in the US.

2616
01:34:01,660 --> 01:34:02,080
Not in Europe.

2617
01:34:03,100 --> 01:34:05,000
And we are lacking behind when you compare

2618
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:06,220
to the Russians and the Chinese.

2619
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:08,820
And you have a huge defense industrial base.

2620
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:08,940
Huge.

2621
01:34:09,440 --> 01:34:13,080
Europeans buying four times more here than the

2622
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:14,060
other way around.

2623
01:34:14,140 --> 01:34:15,540
Which is good because you have a strong

2624
01:34:15,540 --> 01:34:17,360
defense industry but we need to do more

2625
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:18,980
there to make sure that we ramp up

2626
01:34:18,980 --> 01:34:20,220
the production.

2627
01:34:20,780 --> 01:34:21,740
And kill the red tape.

2628
01:34:22,220 --> 01:34:23,560
So I would love to work with you

2629
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:23,940
on that.

2630
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:25,540
And finally Ukraine.

2631
01:34:25,660 --> 01:34:26,560
You broke the deadlock.

2632
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:27,660
As you said.

2633
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:28,520
All the killing.

2634
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:30,540
The young people dying.

2635
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:32,300
Cities getting destroyed.

2636
01:34:32,500 --> 01:34:33,220
People dying.

2637
01:34:33,300 --> 01:34:33,540
You did that.

2638
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:35,280
You started the dialogue with the Russians.

2639
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,280
And the successful talks in Saudi Arabia now

2640
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:39,440
with the Ukrainians.

2641
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:40,020
But wait.

2642
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:40,620
Here it comes.

2643
01:34:40,740 --> 01:34:42,140
I have an invitation for you.

2644
01:34:42,460 --> 01:34:43,880
I really want to commend you for this.

2645
01:34:44,140 --> 01:34:46,000
So well The Hague is my hometown.

2646
01:34:46,440 --> 01:34:47,600
I'd love to host you there in the

2647
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:47,800
summer.

2648
01:34:48,380 --> 01:34:50,060
And work together to make sure that that

2649
01:34:50,060 --> 01:34:51,380
will be a splash.

2650
01:34:51,580 --> 01:34:52,260
A real success.

2651
01:34:52,500 --> 01:34:53,540
A splash.

2652
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:56,280
Come to The Hague.

2653
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:57,500
I will host you there.

2654
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,280
And we will make a big splash.

2655
01:34:59,540 --> 01:35:00,940
I really want to commend you for this.

2656
01:35:01,220 --> 01:35:01,680
So well.

2657
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:03,060
The Hague is my hometown.

2658
01:35:03,500 --> 01:35:04,640
I'd love to host you there in the

2659
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:04,860
summer.

2660
01:35:05,380 --> 01:35:07,120
And work together to make sure that that

2661
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:08,440
will be a splash.

2662
01:35:08,620 --> 01:35:09,360
A real success.

2663
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,940
Projecting American power on the world stage.

2664
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:12,480
Yes.

2665
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:13,000
Power.

2666
01:35:13,220 --> 01:35:14,120
American power.

2667
01:35:14,460 --> 01:35:17,000
This guy is our slab.

2668
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:19,140
He's fantastic.

2669
01:35:19,140 --> 01:35:23,040
So all that money that Ursula is raising,

2670
01:35:23,620 --> 01:35:25,420
Mark Rutte is going to make sure that

2671
01:35:25,420 --> 01:35:26,300
it's spent here.

2672
01:35:27,980 --> 01:35:29,320
That's what I'm good at.

2673
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:30,540
I can't believe it.

2674
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,060
I love other presidents saying that.

2675
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,480
Mark was a great prime minister for the

2676
01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:36,800
Netherlands.

2677
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:38,440
The Netherlands went, what?

2678
01:35:38,540 --> 01:35:39,840
What are you saying?

2679
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:40,920
The guys suck.

2680
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:46,320
He was an HR admin for what's the

2681
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:47,640
British Unilever?

2682
01:35:47,700 --> 01:35:48,320
Unilever.

2683
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:49,900
For soap.

2684
01:35:50,480 --> 01:35:51,260
For shampoo.

2685
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:52,480
The soap guy.

2686
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:54,080
The soap guy.

2687
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:55,120
But wait.

2688
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:56,460
Wait, wait.

2689
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:58,880
Germany is really serious.

2690
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,660
Welcome back to World Affairs in Context everyone.

2691
01:36:01,900 --> 01:36:03,440
Thank you so much for being here.

2692
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:06,860
After laying off thousands of employees and closing

2693
01:36:06,860 --> 01:36:10,780
several factories for the first time in its

2694
01:36:10,780 --> 01:36:14,440
history, Volkswagen made a quite shocking announcement.

2695
01:36:14,440 --> 01:36:18,600
The company's CEO said that it now welcomes

2696
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:22,300
an opportunity to produce weapons as part of

2697
01:36:22,300 --> 01:36:25,340
the EU's multi-billion euro militarization plan.

2698
01:36:25,480 --> 01:36:25,800
Huh.

2699
01:36:26,100 --> 01:36:28,360
Where have I heard this before?

2700
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,440
Where have I heard Volkswagen doing weapons?

2701
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:36,100
A Germany idle production capacity in the struggling

2702
01:36:36,100 --> 01:36:39,700
car industry is likely to be repurposed, is

2703
01:36:39,700 --> 01:36:42,460
likely to be converted for the defense industry,

2704
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:44,380
or if you'd like to be more straightforward

2705
01:36:44,380 --> 01:36:46,980
and honest, for the offense industry.

2706
01:36:47,480 --> 01:36:51,500
In early March, Ursula von der Leyen announced

2707
01:36:51,500 --> 01:36:55,520
the need to rearm Europe and to create

2708
01:36:55,520 --> 01:37:00,280
two separate funds of up to 870 billion

2709
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:01,520
dollars in total.

2710
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:03,820
And so this is just part of the

2711
01:37:03,820 --> 01:37:04,200
plan.

2712
01:37:04,620 --> 01:37:07,360
I will remind you that during World War

2713
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:11,600
II, Volkswagen produced military vehicles, and they also

2714
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:12,940
produced bombs.

2715
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,660
They produced flying bombs for the Wehrmacht.

2716
01:37:16,300 --> 01:37:19,200
Or in other words, for Hitler's armed Nazi

2717
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:19,680
forces.

2718
01:37:20,420 --> 01:37:23,740
So Volkswagen is going back in time, in

2719
01:37:23,740 --> 01:37:24,140
a sense.

2720
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,080
We're getting the band back together, baby!

2721
01:37:26,660 --> 01:37:28,480
We're gonna do V2 flying bombs!

2722
01:37:28,500 --> 01:37:30,320
This is really great.

2723
01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:31,980
This is amazing.

2724
01:37:32,740 --> 01:37:34,120
This is amazing.

2725
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:39,080
I mean, it's like, they're not I mean,

2726
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,700
all this money, I mean, now it's over

2727
01:37:41,700 --> 01:37:43,280
10 years, so what is it?

2728
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,080
We've never been able to extract ourselves from

2729
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:46,780
this completely.

2730
01:37:46,940 --> 01:37:47,740
That's the problem.

2731
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:48,180
No.

2732
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:49,320
No.

2733
01:37:49,500 --> 01:37:51,320
We always get suckered into it.

2734
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:52,620
The bankers get us.

2735
01:37:52,700 --> 01:37:54,480
I mean, if we had not gotten involved

2736
01:37:54,480 --> 01:37:55,720
in World War I, I think it would

2737
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:56,920
have been a different situation.

2738
01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,260
I think it would be a much more

2739
01:37:59,260 --> 01:38:00,160
peaceful world.

2740
01:38:00,420 --> 01:38:05,680
So in the European Union, I'm sorry, in

2741
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,920
Parliament, we have what's this guy's name?

2742
01:38:10,660 --> 01:38:12,560
Barry Andrews.

2743
01:38:12,580 --> 01:38:15,240
I think he's one of the Irish members

2744
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:15,920
of Parliament.

2745
01:38:16,700 --> 01:38:17,260
Troublemaker.

2746
01:38:17,620 --> 01:38:19,140
He's a big troublemaker.

2747
01:38:19,420 --> 01:38:20,440
We need some money.

2748
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:21,440
We know where to get it.

2749
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,920
President Commissioner Hansen, I want to add my

2750
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,640
voice of support to the argument for the

2751
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,560
use of immobilized Russian assets for Ukraine.

2752
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:31,960
At the very least, we should assert the

2753
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,260
legal right to seize those assets and apply

2754
01:38:34,260 --> 01:38:35,780
them to the reconstruction of Ukraine.

2755
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:37,720
I have to say, I find it very

2756
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,720
hard to take seriously the sovereign right argument

2757
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:44,100
made by Russia and its sympathisers in circumstances

2758
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:47,760
where Russia has demonstrated a complete and consistent

2759
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:51,260
disregard for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of

2760
01:38:51,260 --> 01:38:51,720
its neighbours.

2761
01:38:52,480 --> 01:38:54,460
It would be a proportional response by the

2762
01:38:54,460 --> 01:38:56,980
EU to apply these assets to Ukraine, given

2763
01:38:56,980 --> 01:39:01,060
the estimated €5500 billion in damage done to

2764
01:39:01,060 --> 01:39:01,920
Ukraine's economy.

2765
01:39:03,020 --> 01:39:04,260
I have to say that I am informed

2766
01:39:04,260 --> 01:39:06,540
that the Irish government will bring forward legislation

2767
01:39:06,540 --> 01:39:08,460
in the next two weeks called the Criminal

2768
01:39:08,460 --> 01:39:11,660
Justice Violation of EU's Restrictive Measures Bill.

2769
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,940
The legal basis for the use of these

2770
01:39:14,940 --> 01:39:17,160
assets is sound and made out by other

2771
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:17,580
speakers.

2772
01:39:17,980 --> 01:39:20,140
All that remains is for us to send

2773
01:39:20,140 --> 01:39:23,780
a strong political signal reinforcing the international norm

2774
01:39:23,780 --> 01:39:24,600
against aggression.

2775
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:25,200
Thank you.

2776
01:39:25,440 --> 01:39:29,740
So no, the actual troublemaker is Luis Alviz

2777
01:39:29,740 --> 01:39:31,000
Perez Fernandez.

2778
01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:36,240
He was elected to European Parliament on behalf

2779
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:37,680
of Spain in 2024.

2780
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,500
Before that, he was an influencer on social

2781
01:39:41,500 --> 01:39:44,560
media and he's the troublemaker.

2782
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:45,380
Bueno, bueno.

2783
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,940
It starts with bueno, bueno.

2784
01:39:49,100 --> 01:39:49,840
You know it's not good.

2785
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:50,580
Bueno, bueno.

2786
01:39:51,380 --> 01:39:53,020
Well, well.

2787
01:39:53,380 --> 01:39:56,460
If you're Russian, we can take stuff away

2788
01:39:56,460 --> 01:39:56,920
from you.

2789
01:39:57,020 --> 01:39:58,480
We can do it with redheads next.

2790
01:39:58,800 --> 01:39:59,800
What's next?

2791
01:40:00,540 --> 01:40:03,980
Alluding to the Irish Parliament member.

2792
01:40:04,060 --> 01:40:04,540
What's next?

2793
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:05,100
Redheads?

2794
01:40:05,420 --> 01:40:07,160
We can do it with redheads next.

2795
01:40:07,480 --> 01:40:08,520
What's next?

2796
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:09,800
What are we going to do?

2797
01:40:09,900 --> 01:40:12,940
Give more power to the bureaucrats in Brussels,

2798
01:40:13,140 --> 01:40:17,760
the Eurocrats that decide what happens to everyone's

2799
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:18,220
lives.

2800
01:40:18,660 --> 01:40:23,200
We've faced with an economic crisis and what

2801
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,320
we're saying is more control, more centralization.

2802
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,420
Bring everything to Brussels and who cares about

2803
01:40:28,420 --> 01:40:31,340
the blood which has been shed in Ukraine

2804
01:40:31,340 --> 01:40:32,160
or anywhere else.

2805
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,920
Let's just make more arms dealers and arms

2806
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:36,640
manufacturers, millionaires.

2807
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:40,260
Von der Leyen knew that they had had

2808
01:40:40,260 --> 01:40:42,860
weapons in Russia for a long time.

2809
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:45,380
Now we say we have to defend ourselves

2810
01:40:45,380 --> 01:40:46,240
from Russia.

2811
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,100
They've got four times less tanks than the

2812
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:48,560
EU.

2813
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:53,680
These tyrants, we're talking about 20% of

2814
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,280
Ukrainian territory.

2815
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:59,780
Let's do away with this circus, this bellicose

2816
01:40:59,780 --> 01:41:01,920
circus that we call the EU.

2817
01:41:02,300 --> 01:41:05,760
It's extremely dangerous leaving everything in the hands

2818
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,000
of Eurocrats and murderers.

2819
01:41:07,180 --> 01:41:08,900
Now, what could possibly go wrong?

2820
01:41:09,100 --> 01:41:09,820
No, no, no.

2821
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:11,540
And then in the UK...

2822
01:41:11,540 --> 01:41:12,760
It's the new Farage, that guy.

2823
01:41:13,020 --> 01:41:15,380
Yeah, well, unfortunately, it's only in Spanish.

2824
01:41:16,260 --> 01:41:19,340
In the UK, another influencer, Jasmine Brittles.

2825
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,240
Jasmine is just astounded by the money that's

2826
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:24,420
available all of a sudden.

2827
01:41:51,480 --> 01:41:54,940
We can sacrifice young people, whereas during COVID,

2828
01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:57,560
remember, we all had to stay indoors in

2829
01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:58,780
order to save granny.

2830
01:41:59,540 --> 01:42:02,660
But now, suddenly, that doesn't mean anything.

2831
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,740
Because we can send out young people, boys

2832
01:42:05,740 --> 01:42:07,760
and girls, to go and fight in another

2833
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:08,260
country.

2834
01:42:09,140 --> 01:42:10,760
And also climate change.

2835
01:42:10,820 --> 01:42:14,600
Isn't it amazing that suddenly nobody's talking about

2836
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:17,020
the effects of war on climate change?

2837
01:42:17,540 --> 01:42:19,020
Net zero's not mentioned.

2838
01:42:19,020 --> 01:42:19,780
No.

2839
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:24,100
I mean, taking all sorts of horrendous weapons

2840
01:42:24,100 --> 01:42:27,200
into another country, blowing things up.

2841
01:42:27,620 --> 01:42:30,780
Can you imagine what that would potentially do

2842
01:42:30,780 --> 01:42:33,360
to the climate, to pollution levels?

2843
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,200
Nobody mentions that.

2844
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:37,540
I'm not hearing Greta Thunberg do anything.

2845
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:38,880
She's not saying a word.

2846
01:42:39,340 --> 01:42:41,380
The Greens are entirely silent.

2847
01:42:41,820 --> 01:42:46,180
Nobody says anything about that because everything, everything

2848
01:42:46,180 --> 01:42:50,100
is pushed aside for some crazy war in

2849
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:50,720
Ukraine.

2850
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:52,120
How marvellous.

2851
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:53,540
How marvellous.

2852
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:54,400
Oh, no.

2853
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,980
Oh, everyone's all in on the coalition of

2854
01:42:57,980 --> 01:42:58,560
the willing.

2855
01:42:58,860 --> 01:43:01,040
A group of countries, led by the UK

2856
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:04,120
and France, stepping up efforts to ensure Ukraine

2857
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:06,760
and Europe's future security as a peace deal

2858
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:08,520
with Russia could be on the cards.

2859
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,280
The virtual summit was hosted by British Prime

2860
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,840
Minister Keir Starmer and was organised in order

2861
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,540
to exert more pressure on Russian President Vladimir

2862
01:43:16,540 --> 01:43:19,820
Putin into accepting a 30-day ceasefire proposed

2863
01:43:19,820 --> 01:43:21,880
by the US and backed by Kiev.

2864
01:43:22,140 --> 01:43:24,340
We agreed we will keep increasing the pressure

2865
01:43:24,340 --> 01:43:27,280
on Russia, keep the military aid flowing to

2866
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:31,420
Ukraine, and keep tightening restrictions on Russia's economy

2867
01:43:31,420 --> 01:43:35,280
to weaken Putin's war machine and bring him

2868
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:36,000
to the table.

2869
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:39,160
The meeting follows a dramatic rapprochement between Moscow

2870
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:41,540
and the Trump administration and comes as a

2871
01:43:41,540 --> 01:43:44,040
gesture of support from Europe for Ukraine in

2872
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,240
the wake of the United States foreign policy

2873
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:46,680
change.

2874
01:43:47,140 --> 01:43:50,620
Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has repeatedly expressed his

2875
01:43:50,620 --> 01:43:53,480
country's support for the proposed ceasefire urging allies

2876
01:43:53,480 --> 01:43:54,780
to put pressure on Russia.

2877
01:43:55,100 --> 01:43:57,960
I ask you to talk to America, to

2878
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,760
President Trump to help bring peace faster.

2879
01:44:01,220 --> 01:44:06,360
This can happen through full sanctions for ensuring

2880
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:10,160
that the aggressor gains nothing from this war.

2881
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,840
The coalition have proposed a strategy aimed at

2882
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,600
increasing military aid to Ukraine as well as

2883
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:17,540
boosting their own defense spending in order to

2884
01:44:17,540 --> 01:44:20,540
ensure security on the continent while also deploying

2885
01:44:20,540 --> 01:44:22,740
European forces to Ukraine in the case of

2886
01:44:22,740 --> 01:44:25,460
a ceasefire in order to deter future Russian

2887
01:44:25,460 --> 01:44:25,980
attacks.

2888
01:44:26,440 --> 01:44:28,740
Military leaders from around 30 countries will meet

2889
01:44:28,740 --> 01:44:31,260
in London on Thursday as the coalition moves

2890
01:44:31,260 --> 01:44:32,900
into the operational phase.

2891
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:34,900
I don't know what's happening anymore.

2892
01:44:35,020 --> 01:44:36,120
Are they going to give the money to

2893
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:37,940
us or are they going to give it

2894
01:44:37,940 --> 01:44:38,700
to Volkswagen?

2895
01:44:38,860 --> 01:44:39,680
I don't understand.

2896
01:44:42,210 --> 01:44:42,690
Both?

2897
01:44:44,430 --> 01:44:45,030
Both.

2898
01:44:45,790 --> 01:44:47,930
I have more.

2899
01:44:48,070 --> 01:44:49,290
I don't know if you have anything on

2900
01:44:50,910 --> 01:44:51,510
Ukraine.

2901
01:44:52,190 --> 01:44:53,870
Do I have anything on...

2902
01:44:53,870 --> 01:44:56,330
Well, I do have the encirclement thing because

2903
01:44:56,330 --> 01:44:59,350
now there's a controversy over the encirclement of

2904
01:44:59,350 --> 01:44:59,790
Kursk.

2905
01:44:59,870 --> 01:45:02,810
I have it listed under Lursk in this

2906
01:45:02,810 --> 01:45:04,270
particular...

2907
01:45:04,270 --> 01:45:06,750
And this is interesting because it contradicts what

2908
01:45:06,750 --> 01:45:10,210
we talked about in the last show.

2909
01:45:10,530 --> 01:45:13,150
Ukrainian forces are on the defensive in Kursk,

2910
01:45:13,230 --> 01:45:15,370
the region of Western Russia they invaded and

2911
01:45:15,370 --> 01:45:16,830
occupied six months ago.

2912
01:45:17,450 --> 01:45:20,030
Russia's defense ministry said it had retaken two

2913
01:45:20,030 --> 01:45:22,690
more villages from retreating Ukrainian forces.

2914
01:45:23,330 --> 01:45:24,310
But are they surrounded?

2915
01:45:24,650 --> 01:45:28,270
Well, Donald Trump's claimed thousands are and pleaded

2916
01:45:28,270 --> 01:45:30,070
with Vladimir Putin for their lives.

2917
01:45:30,550 --> 01:45:33,410
Russia's president has in turn said Ukrainian troops

2918
01:45:33,410 --> 01:45:36,130
would be given decent treatment if they surrendered.

2919
01:45:36,690 --> 01:45:39,030
But President Zelensky said this was not right.

2920
01:45:39,710 --> 01:45:41,510
What exactly about Ukrainian troops?

2921
01:45:42,210 --> 01:45:45,010
The encirclement of the Ukrainian military is a

2922
01:45:45,010 --> 01:45:45,870
lie of Putin.

2923
01:45:46,370 --> 01:45:48,810
There is no encirclement of the Ukrainian military

2924
01:45:48,810 --> 01:45:50,050
in the Kursk region.

2925
01:45:50,570 --> 01:45:52,750
What kind of signals are these coming from

2926
01:45:52,750 --> 01:45:53,650
the Russian side?

2927
01:45:54,030 --> 01:45:56,250
I think that Russia wants to surround the

2928
01:45:56,250 --> 01:45:58,850
Ukrainian military in the same way, but on

2929
01:45:58,850 --> 01:46:00,150
the territory of Ukraine.

2930
01:46:00,870 --> 01:46:03,350
The respected US think tank, the Institute for

2931
01:46:03,350 --> 01:46:05,470
the Study of War, said it had observed

2932
01:46:05,470 --> 01:46:09,310
no geolocated evidence to indicate Russian forces had

2933
01:46:09,310 --> 01:46:12,090
encircled a significant number of Ukrainian troops.

2934
01:46:12,590 --> 01:46:14,730
It said Mr. Putin was seeking to present

2935
01:46:14,730 --> 01:46:17,730
himself as a merciful leader and distract from

2936
01:46:17,730 --> 01:46:20,250
his refusal to agree an immediate ceasefire.

2937
01:46:20,430 --> 01:46:21,610
I think this is a new one to

2938
01:46:21,610 --> 01:46:21,810
use.

2939
01:46:21,910 --> 01:46:23,230
No geospatial evidence.

2940
01:46:23,530 --> 01:46:24,450
Not just no evidence.

2941
01:46:24,610 --> 01:46:26,350
There's no geospatial evidence.

2942
01:46:27,330 --> 01:46:32,550
I have similar reports from Andrew Rassoulis, who's

2943
01:46:32,550 --> 01:46:34,250
the Canadian former defense guy.

2944
01:46:34,650 --> 01:46:36,710
He's actually in Poland now.

2945
01:46:37,810 --> 01:46:41,470
I think training with the Polish, the Canadian

2946
01:46:41,470 --> 01:46:43,690
troops are training with the Polish troops, getting

2947
01:46:43,690 --> 01:46:45,790
ready for something that sounds like a really

2948
01:46:45,790 --> 01:46:46,570
bad idea.

2949
01:46:49,530 --> 01:46:51,210
That's most of our show.

2950
01:46:52,730 --> 01:46:57,210
The first question is really, it seems like

2951
01:46:57,210 --> 01:46:58,330
Ukraine is all in.

2952
01:46:58,490 --> 01:46:59,310
They're good to go.

2953
01:46:59,310 --> 01:47:01,530
Why is Putin resisting?

2954
01:47:01,890 --> 01:47:02,550
What is happening?

2955
01:47:02,910 --> 01:47:04,110
What do you think could be the reasons

2956
01:47:04,110 --> 01:47:07,810
behind Putin's reluctance to fully accept a ceasefire

2957
01:47:07,810 --> 01:47:08,670
under these terms?

2958
01:47:09,130 --> 01:47:11,410
The first part of the but and the

2959
01:47:11,410 --> 01:47:15,270
big part is the Russians will not agree,

2960
01:47:15,410 --> 01:47:18,170
in my opinion, with a ceasefire until they

2961
01:47:18,170 --> 01:47:22,050
have pushed back all of the Ukrainian forces

2962
01:47:22,050 --> 01:47:24,830
that entered into Russia proper in the Kursk

2963
01:47:24,830 --> 01:47:26,410
Oblast last summer.

2964
01:47:26,410 --> 01:47:29,830
At that time, Putin was very clear.

2965
01:47:29,950 --> 01:47:32,370
He made a statement saying the Ukrainians, by

2966
01:47:32,370 --> 01:47:34,870
doing this incursion, are trying to get a

2967
01:47:34,870 --> 01:47:38,950
negotiating bargaining chip to leverage off the territories

2968
01:47:38,950 --> 01:47:41,330
that Russia has in Ukraine.

2969
01:47:41,570 --> 01:47:43,350
And he said that's not going to happen.

2970
01:47:43,870 --> 01:47:46,630
And basically the Russians have been increasing the

2971
01:47:46,630 --> 01:47:50,810
tempo of their counter-offensive operations throughout the

2972
01:47:50,810 --> 01:47:53,870
fall, and we're now at the point where

2973
01:47:53,870 --> 01:47:56,530
the Ukrainians are holding on to certainly less

2974
01:47:56,530 --> 01:47:58,830
than 50% of the territory they took

2975
01:47:58,830 --> 01:48:00,750
last summer, and it could be down to

2976
01:48:00,750 --> 01:48:02,110
maybe 20 or 30%.

2977
01:48:02,110 --> 01:48:03,990
I mean, Putin has said that they're surrounded,

2978
01:48:04,170 --> 01:48:05,490
but thus being disputed.

2979
01:48:05,850 --> 01:48:07,970
But the point is, he wants to push

2980
01:48:07,970 --> 01:48:08,890
the Ukrainians out.

2981
01:48:09,190 --> 01:48:12,570
No bargaining chip for Ukraine to leverage that

2982
01:48:12,570 --> 01:48:15,350
salient against what the Russians hold in Ukraine.

2983
01:48:15,790 --> 01:48:18,810
So, he goes a little bit deeper on

2984
01:48:18,810 --> 01:48:21,050
the are they surrounded or not.

2985
01:48:21,050 --> 01:48:24,870
You mentioned these kind of conflicting reports, whether

2986
01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:28,130
Ukrainian troops are in fact encircled in the

2987
01:48:28,130 --> 01:48:30,670
Kursk oblast, in the Kursk region.

2988
01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:33,210
Ukrainians are denying it.

2989
01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:34,770
They're saying Putin's claims are false.

2990
01:48:35,010 --> 01:48:37,890
How do you interpret these differing reports?

2991
01:48:38,450 --> 01:48:40,850
Based on the various sources that I've been

2992
01:48:40,850 --> 01:48:44,010
able to access, it would seem that the

2993
01:48:44,010 --> 01:48:47,250
Ukrainians are being pushed, but they're not surrounded

2994
01:48:47,250 --> 01:48:48,890
in the sense that they still have an

2995
01:48:48,890 --> 01:48:51,530
exit route back to Ukraine.

2996
01:48:51,810 --> 01:48:54,130
So, they're not completely surrounded, but they are

2997
01:48:54,130 --> 01:48:56,130
being pressured in a cauldron.

2998
01:48:56,290 --> 01:48:57,910
You can call it like that, but it's

2999
01:48:57,910 --> 01:49:00,410
not completely closed at the other end toward

3000
01:49:00,410 --> 01:49:01,370
the Ukrainian border.

3001
01:49:01,710 --> 01:49:02,510
A cauldron?

3002
01:49:03,070 --> 01:49:03,510
Hmm.

3003
01:49:04,310 --> 01:49:05,970
So, there's holes in the plan.

3004
01:49:07,190 --> 01:49:08,210
Holes in the plan.

3005
01:49:09,130 --> 01:49:10,950
There's a lot of area, so I can

3006
01:49:10,950 --> 01:49:11,450
see that.

3007
01:49:11,570 --> 01:49:11,670
Yeah.

3008
01:49:12,010 --> 01:49:13,730
That's believable.

3009
01:49:13,890 --> 01:49:17,170
So, the real question is, will President Putin

3010
01:49:17,170 --> 01:49:19,330
accept the coalition of the willing, or will

3011
01:49:19,330 --> 01:49:20,490
it have to be something else?

3012
01:49:20,570 --> 01:49:22,390
And once again, I think I've predicted the

3013
01:49:22,390 --> 01:49:22,750
answer.

3014
01:49:22,970 --> 01:49:24,810
Yeah, he's not going to agree to a

3015
01:49:24,810 --> 01:49:29,650
Western European Canadian peacekeeping force, which he sees

3016
01:49:29,650 --> 01:49:31,250
as basically a NATO light.

3017
01:49:31,830 --> 01:49:34,670
He'll look at more like a UN force

3018
01:49:34,670 --> 01:49:38,730
of neutral countries that are not providing assistance

3019
01:49:38,730 --> 01:49:41,450
to Ukraine as an eventual peacekeeping force.

3020
01:49:41,610 --> 01:49:44,250
But also, he's looking beyond 30 days.

3021
01:49:44,250 --> 01:49:46,790
You know, what's going to happen after 30

3022
01:49:46,790 --> 01:49:46,950
days?

3023
01:49:47,010 --> 01:49:48,510
So, he wants to make sure that Russia's

3024
01:49:48,510 --> 01:49:51,870
position going into a ceasefire, whenever they're ready,

3025
01:49:51,930 --> 01:49:53,710
and one day they will be ready, but

3026
01:49:53,710 --> 01:49:55,150
they're going to make sure that they're in

3027
01:49:55,150 --> 01:49:58,430
an advantageous position to then have the ceasefire

3028
01:49:58,430 --> 01:50:01,370
and then negotiate from a position of strength

3029
01:50:01,370 --> 01:50:04,470
the follow-on peace agreement, because the Russians

3030
01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:06,530
are very keen to make sure that they

3031
01:50:06,530 --> 01:50:09,650
have a comprehensive peace settlement that's bolted on

3032
01:50:09,650 --> 01:50:10,570
to the ceasefire.

3033
01:50:10,750 --> 01:50:11,750
Blue helmets!

3034
01:50:11,750 --> 01:50:13,210
Blue helmets incoming.

3035
01:50:13,630 --> 01:50:15,450
That would make sense.

3036
01:50:15,670 --> 01:50:19,370
That would sound like a negotiable thing.

3037
01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:20,830
Well, we won't do this, but we'll do

3038
01:50:20,830 --> 01:50:21,010
that.

3039
01:50:21,470 --> 01:50:23,050
Because he has to give in on something,

3040
01:50:23,150 --> 01:50:25,090
because he said he doesn't want any security

3041
01:50:25,090 --> 01:50:27,350
forces in there, but I bet you he'd

3042
01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:27,970
go for that.

3043
01:50:28,070 --> 01:50:29,190
Yeah, because there's blue helmets.

3044
01:50:29,470 --> 01:50:30,410
Because they're a bunch of boneheads, and they're

3045
01:50:30,410 --> 01:50:32,690
going to give the fact that if it

3046
01:50:32,690 --> 01:50:35,470
goes according to form, every Ukrainian will get

3047
01:50:35,470 --> 01:50:36,010
cholera.

3048
01:50:36,010 --> 01:50:36,790
Cholera.

3049
01:50:40,930 --> 01:50:41,730
Cholera incoming.

3050
01:50:42,990 --> 01:50:44,950
Sheryl Atkinson had to sit down with President

3051
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:45,350
Trump.

3052
01:50:45,630 --> 01:50:48,070
Are you speaking to Putin in the last

3053
01:50:48,070 --> 01:50:49,650
days or hours personally?

3054
01:50:49,870 --> 01:50:50,970
Well, I don't want to say it, but

3055
01:50:50,970 --> 01:50:54,090
we are dealing with him, and I think

3056
01:50:54,090 --> 01:50:55,770
What is this, I don't want to say

3057
01:50:55,770 --> 01:50:57,250
it, but we are dealing with him?

3058
01:50:57,250 --> 01:50:58,770
I don't want to say it, but.

3059
01:50:58,850 --> 01:51:00,350
Let me hear that again.

3060
01:51:00,430 --> 01:51:03,030
Are you speaking to Putin in the last

3061
01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:04,610
days or hours personally?

3062
01:51:04,810 --> 01:51:05,930
Well, I don't want to say it, but

3063
01:51:05,930 --> 01:51:09,030
we are dealing with him, and I think

3064
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:10,770
it's going reasonably well.

3065
01:51:11,650 --> 01:51:13,210
It's a very complex situation.

3066
01:51:13,470 --> 01:51:17,250
It's a bloody terrible war.

3067
01:51:18,410 --> 01:51:20,050
And I do think it's going well.

3068
01:51:20,150 --> 01:51:22,210
As you know, we have a ceasefire agreement

3069
01:51:22,210 --> 01:51:27,250
with the Ukrainian group, and we are trying

3070
01:51:27,250 --> 01:51:28,830
to get that with Russia too.

3071
01:51:30,030 --> 01:51:32,470
And I think thus far it's gone okay.

3072
01:51:32,830 --> 01:51:34,470
We'll know a little bit more on Monday,

3073
01:51:35,410 --> 01:51:37,610
and that'll be hopefully good.

3074
01:51:38,330 --> 01:51:40,770
I'm not understating the complexity of all this,

3075
01:51:40,870 --> 01:51:43,150
but as a candidate, you said you would

3076
01:51:43,150 --> 01:51:45,010
have this war settled in 24 hours.

3077
01:51:45,630 --> 01:51:47,710
Well, I was being a little bit sarcastic

3078
01:51:47,710 --> 01:51:48,450
when I said that.

3079
01:51:49,410 --> 01:51:52,090
I was being sarcastic.

3080
01:51:52,270 --> 01:51:53,530
A little bit sarcastic.

3081
01:51:54,010 --> 01:51:56,870
That's a funny definition of the word sarcastic.

3082
01:51:56,910 --> 01:51:59,630
That is an incorrect definition of sarcastic, Mr.

3083
01:51:59,830 --> 01:52:00,070
President.

3084
01:52:00,070 --> 01:52:01,850
We're not buying that one.

3085
01:52:02,070 --> 01:52:04,090
Well, I was being a little bit sarcastic

3086
01:52:04,090 --> 01:52:04,830
when I said that.

3087
01:52:05,730 --> 01:52:07,350
What I really mean is I'd like to

3088
01:52:07,350 --> 01:52:07,910
get it settled.

3089
01:52:10,450 --> 01:52:13,450
I'll hold on.

3090
01:52:14,030 --> 01:52:16,230
The word he should have used instead of

3091
01:52:16,230 --> 01:52:19,030
sarcastic, which was a mistake, I think he

3092
01:52:19,030 --> 01:52:19,830
may be getting old.

3093
01:52:20,710 --> 01:52:21,950
He should have said hopeful.

3094
01:52:22,550 --> 01:52:25,890
If you substitute the word hopeful, which is

3095
01:52:25,890 --> 01:52:29,390
a great political term to use because hope

3096
01:52:29,390 --> 01:52:30,790
is a big deal according to a lot

3097
01:52:30,790 --> 01:52:31,430
of research.

3098
01:52:32,450 --> 01:52:33,870
If he had said, well, I was just

3099
01:52:33,870 --> 01:52:36,530
being hopeful, then it would have been soft

3100
01:52:36,530 --> 01:52:38,590
and it wouldn't have been subject to our

3101
01:52:38,590 --> 01:52:41,350
ridicule or anybody else's for that matter.

3102
01:52:41,370 --> 01:52:42,530
I think it's very damning.

3103
01:52:43,770 --> 01:52:44,510
It's no good.

3104
01:52:45,410 --> 01:52:47,870
I don't think you or I thought that

3105
01:52:47,870 --> 01:52:49,730
he could fix it within 24 hours, but

3106
01:52:49,730 --> 01:52:51,450
then to say I was being sarcastic.

3107
01:52:52,590 --> 01:52:53,050
Yeah, I know.

3108
01:52:53,530 --> 01:52:54,890
He screwed up.

3109
01:52:55,030 --> 01:52:55,690
That was a screw up.

3110
01:52:55,690 --> 01:52:57,490
These are not the words of a Wharton

3111
01:52:57,490 --> 01:52:59,310
School of Business graduate, Mr. President.

3112
01:52:59,850 --> 01:53:00,630
This is no good.

3113
01:53:01,050 --> 01:53:03,070
Well, I was being a little bit sarcastic

3114
01:53:03,070 --> 01:53:03,810
when I said that.

3115
01:53:04,750 --> 01:53:06,330
What I really mean is I'd like to

3116
01:53:06,330 --> 01:53:12,010
get it settled and I think I'll be

3117
01:53:12,010 --> 01:53:12,650
successful.

3118
01:53:13,090 --> 01:53:14,870
What's the plan if Putin doesn't agree to

3119
01:53:14,870 --> 01:53:15,550
a ceasefire?

3120
01:53:18,910 --> 01:53:22,310
Bad news for this world because so many

3121
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:24,850
people are dying, but I think he's going

3122
01:53:24,850 --> 01:53:25,330
to agree.

3123
01:53:25,450 --> 01:53:25,970
I really do.

3124
01:53:26,050 --> 01:53:28,130
I think I know him pretty well and

3125
01:53:28,130 --> 01:53:29,030
I think he's going to agree.

3126
01:53:29,630 --> 01:53:30,950
Okay, we shall see.

3127
01:53:31,990 --> 01:53:33,330
He thinks he's going to agree.

3128
01:53:33,970 --> 01:53:34,790
We shall see.

3129
01:53:41,410 --> 01:53:44,630
There was a term that I heard on

3130
01:53:44,630 --> 01:53:49,030
the Bloomberg surveillance podcast from HSBC.

3131
01:53:49,210 --> 01:53:52,830
These tariffs, the on again, off again, which

3132
01:53:52,830 --> 01:53:55,830
I believe is meant to and I'm seeing

3133
01:53:55,830 --> 01:53:56,710
this everywhere now.

3134
01:53:57,210 --> 01:53:58,430
It's like, has everyone listened to the show

3135
01:53:58,430 --> 01:53:59,390
or was it so obvious?

3136
01:53:59,390 --> 01:54:01,230
I'm seeing a lot of people saying, oh,

3137
01:54:01,290 --> 01:54:03,590
Trump's doing this to bring the economy down.

3138
01:54:03,950 --> 01:54:06,130
Now they all also say, and then the

3139
01:54:06,130 --> 01:54:07,530
Fed will have to cut rates.

3140
01:54:07,650 --> 01:54:09,290
I don't think that's that easy.

3141
01:54:11,430 --> 01:54:13,790
And also the market is up and down,

3142
01:54:13,850 --> 01:54:14,490
up and down.

3143
01:54:14,530 --> 01:54:16,730
Yeah, the market was up again.

3144
01:54:16,730 --> 01:54:20,350
Pre did a bunch of shows for NPR

3145
01:54:20,350 --> 01:54:22,010
for the weekend and they're going on and

3146
01:54:22,010 --> 01:54:23,370
on about the market being down, but it

3147
01:54:23,370 --> 01:54:26,190
went up over 2% on Friday.

3148
01:54:26,490 --> 01:54:27,290
It rocketed back.

3149
01:54:27,290 --> 01:54:29,410
Wait a minute, you guys screwed up that

3150
01:54:29,410 --> 01:54:29,730
one.

3151
01:54:29,870 --> 01:54:33,270
Yeah, so here's the Bloomberg surveillance podcast and

3152
01:54:33,270 --> 01:54:35,290
they have a term which I think maybe

3153
01:54:35,290 --> 01:54:36,970
a DH Unplugged could use.

3154
01:54:38,610 --> 01:54:41,310
I think we're still tactically quite cautious on

3155
01:54:41,310 --> 01:54:43,730
equities overall, particularly, of course, in the US.

3156
01:54:43,730 --> 01:54:45,710
We've just put out a note this morning.

3157
01:54:45,790 --> 01:54:46,930
I think this is the kind of time

3158
01:54:46,930 --> 01:54:49,510
where you need to update your framework, your

3159
01:54:49,510 --> 01:54:51,730
indicators pretty much on an hourly basis because

3160
01:54:51,730 --> 01:54:54,330
like you guys were just discussing, of course,

3161
01:54:54,370 --> 01:54:57,110
even yesterday things were changing pretty much three

3162
01:54:57,110 --> 01:54:58,090
times during the day.

3163
01:54:58,330 --> 01:55:00,390
So when we look at our indicators at

3164
01:55:00,390 --> 01:55:03,490
the moment, particularly from a systematic perspective, of

3165
01:55:03,490 --> 01:55:05,430
course, yes, there has been quite a bit

3166
01:55:05,430 --> 01:55:08,450
of systematic selling, but what we're not yet

3167
01:55:08,450 --> 01:55:10,710
seeing is this sort of final puke.

3168
01:55:10,830 --> 01:55:12,290
So when we look, for example, at our

3169
01:55:12,290 --> 01:55:16,290
momentum slash CTA indicators, they are bearish.

3170
01:55:16,390 --> 01:55:18,630
They flipped from maximum bullish to bearish, but

3171
01:55:18,630 --> 01:55:21,670
they're only at sort of medium bearish levels

3172
01:55:21,670 --> 01:55:22,510
until now.

3173
01:55:22,630 --> 01:55:24,370
So we need, I think for us to

3174
01:55:24,370 --> 01:55:26,010
be comfortable to go back in and to

3175
01:55:26,010 --> 01:55:27,770
buy the dip, I think we need a

3176
01:55:27,770 --> 01:55:29,590
bit more sort of a puke moment in

3177
01:55:29,590 --> 01:55:31,950
equities to really say, right, this is the

3178
01:55:31,950 --> 01:55:34,130
all clear, now positioning is clear enough.

3179
01:55:34,270 --> 01:55:36,130
Remember what Powell was saying on Friday.

3180
01:55:36,450 --> 01:55:38,190
We're in no hurry at all to do

3181
01:55:38,190 --> 01:55:38,910
anything in rates.

3182
01:55:39,250 --> 01:55:40,310
Max, a lot to unpack there.

3183
01:55:40,390 --> 01:55:41,850
Let's start with the technical term puke.

3184
01:55:42,150 --> 01:55:44,770
What does the cathartic puke look like?

3185
01:55:44,970 --> 01:55:46,570
We had a 10% decline at one

3186
01:55:46,570 --> 01:55:49,030
point in yesterday's session, so entered correction territory

3187
01:55:49,030 --> 01:55:49,510
briefly.

3188
01:55:49,650 --> 01:55:51,150
If it's not that, what is it?

3189
01:55:51,210 --> 01:55:52,250
I think what we need to see is

3190
01:55:52,250 --> 01:55:53,050
broader-based.

3191
01:55:53,330 --> 01:55:54,590
I think what you would want to see

3192
01:55:54,590 --> 01:55:56,990
is sort of the final broad-based puke,

3193
01:55:57,110 --> 01:55:59,270
where it's not just tech and the high

3194
01:55:59,270 --> 01:56:01,930
multiple stuff that gets hammered, but really the

3195
01:56:01,930 --> 01:56:04,430
broader market, where perhaps even the equal-weighted

3196
01:56:04,430 --> 01:56:07,410
S&P underperforms the cap-weighted S&P.

3197
01:56:07,410 --> 01:56:10,970
We're really playing use recession fears, and that

3198
01:56:10,970 --> 01:56:13,250
should spill over into global equity markets.

3199
01:56:13,430 --> 01:56:15,390
Once we've got that, I think that is

3200
01:56:15,390 --> 01:56:17,730
then sort of the final puke.

3201
01:56:17,810 --> 01:56:19,270
I think this conversation needs a bit of

3202
01:56:19,270 --> 01:56:19,990
antacid.

3203
01:56:21,410 --> 01:56:24,970
Okay, I have to chime in here.

3204
01:56:25,730 --> 01:56:27,330
This was a bet.

3205
01:56:28,950 --> 01:56:32,450
This was inside broadcasting info.

3206
01:56:32,510 --> 01:56:33,290
It's a podcast.

3207
01:56:33,910 --> 01:56:34,550
It's a podcast.

3208
01:56:35,150 --> 01:56:37,250
There was a bet involved.

3209
01:56:37,810 --> 01:56:39,610
I am going to introduce the word.

3210
01:56:39,650 --> 01:56:41,310
Can you use the word puke?

3211
01:56:41,690 --> 01:56:43,330
I'm going to not only use the word

3212
01:56:43,330 --> 01:56:44,990
puke, and I'll bet you a hundred bucks

3213
01:56:44,990 --> 01:56:47,590
I'll use it ten times in different ways,

3214
01:56:47,610 --> 01:56:49,350
and it's going to catch on.

3215
01:56:50,890 --> 01:56:52,130
This is bullcrap.

3216
01:56:52,230 --> 01:56:54,410
I can't wait to hear Andrew Horowitz talking

3217
01:56:54,410 --> 01:56:55,970
about the market's final puke.

3218
01:56:56,110 --> 01:56:57,030
We need a big puke.

3219
01:56:57,050 --> 01:56:57,730
Final puke.

3220
01:56:57,770 --> 01:56:58,850
I like final puke.

3221
01:56:59,090 --> 01:56:59,590
That's kind of cute.

3222
01:56:59,610 --> 01:57:01,570
We need a projectile puke.

3223
01:57:01,730 --> 01:57:03,590
We need something really good to get this

3224
01:57:03,590 --> 01:57:05,090
market back in its spot so we can

3225
01:57:05,090 --> 01:57:05,930
update our indicators.

3226
01:57:07,370 --> 01:57:08,090
I don't know, man.

3227
01:57:09,570 --> 01:57:11,410
I just love the financial guys.

3228
01:57:11,510 --> 01:57:12,790
They don't know what they're doing anymore.

3229
01:57:13,570 --> 01:57:14,910
They never have known what they're doing.

3230
01:57:15,090 --> 01:57:17,290
It's all been smoke and mirrors.

3231
01:57:17,570 --> 01:57:18,030
No kidding.

3232
01:57:18,350 --> 01:57:19,910
If it goes up, you have the same

3233
01:57:19,910 --> 01:57:20,930
reason they went down.

3234
01:57:21,150 --> 01:57:21,450
Bye.

3235
01:57:21,910 --> 01:57:22,270
Bye.

3236
01:57:22,610 --> 01:57:23,050
Just bye.

3237
01:57:23,410 --> 01:57:25,530
Yeah, if you're on CNBC, it's bye, bye,

3238
01:57:25,590 --> 01:57:25,870
bye.

3239
01:57:26,110 --> 01:57:27,190
And with that, I want to thank you

3240
01:57:27,190 --> 01:57:27,770
for your courage.

3241
01:57:27,890 --> 01:57:29,050
Say in the morning to you, the man

3242
01:57:29,050 --> 01:57:31,330
who put the sea in the Ukrainian cauldron.

3243
01:57:31,510 --> 01:57:32,910
Say hello to my friend on the other

3244
01:57:32,910 --> 01:57:35,530
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.

3245
01:57:35,850 --> 01:57:36,170
DeMora.

3246
01:57:40,050 --> 01:57:41,530
Now, in the morning to you, Mr. Alan

3247
01:57:41,530 --> 01:57:41,750
Curry.

3248
01:57:41,830 --> 01:57:43,010
In the morning, all ships and sea boots

3249
01:57:43,010 --> 01:57:44,190
on the ground, feet in the air, subs

3250
01:57:44,190 --> 01:57:45,430
in the water, and the dames and knights

3251
01:57:45,430 --> 01:57:45,910
out there.

3252
01:57:45,990 --> 01:57:47,470
In the morning to the trolls hanging out

3253
01:57:47,470 --> 01:57:48,130
in the troll room.

3254
01:57:48,270 --> 01:57:48,770
Let's stop.

3255
01:57:48,830 --> 01:57:49,390
Stop moving.

3256
01:57:49,470 --> 01:57:49,970
Let me count you.

3257
01:57:50,050 --> 01:57:50,310
There we go.

3258
01:57:50,610 --> 01:57:50,970
It's been 20.

3259
01:57:53,570 --> 01:57:58,360
I think it's around average 2535.

3260
01:58:01,540 --> 01:58:02,180
2,535.

3261
01:58:02,180 --> 01:58:03,640
That sounds right.

3262
01:58:04,420 --> 01:58:05,880
And well, let me just check the averages.

3263
01:58:06,300 --> 01:58:09,080
Last Sunday was 2,452.

3264
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:12,820
It is below the 10 show average, but

3265
01:58:12,820 --> 01:58:15,740
above the last 100 show average, which is

3266
01:58:15,740 --> 01:58:16,980
2,291.

3267
01:58:17,340 --> 01:58:19,680
So, yes, I love these averages.

3268
01:58:20,700 --> 01:58:21,300
Yeah, you do.

3269
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:22,080
I really do.

3270
01:58:22,300 --> 01:58:23,540
Sucker for bull crap.

3271
01:58:23,940 --> 01:58:25,840
It's bull crap.

3272
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:27,320
By the way, I do want to say

3273
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:31,880
that I was very egotistical just talking about

3274
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:35,860
the fire here in Fredericksburg, in Hill Country.

3275
01:58:36,380 --> 01:58:41,880
The tornadoes have been pretty bad across Alabama,

3276
01:58:42,260 --> 01:58:42,620
Tennessee.

3277
01:58:43,140 --> 01:58:44,500
What do you mean egotistical?

3278
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:45,400
Well, because I...

3279
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:46,820
You gave a factual report.

3280
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,380
Yeah, but I only talked about our strife

3281
01:58:49,380 --> 01:58:50,280
and not about other people's strife.

3282
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:51,780
Yeah, well, that was what people wanted to

3283
01:58:51,780 --> 01:58:52,100
hear.

3284
01:58:52,540 --> 01:58:53,140
Yeah, I know.

3285
01:58:53,300 --> 01:58:53,580
Okay.

3286
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:54,320
Well, there you go.

3287
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:55,940
So, I was spot on the money.

3288
01:58:56,340 --> 01:58:57,040
You were.

3289
01:58:57,180 --> 01:58:57,780
Screw you.

3290
01:58:59,220 --> 01:59:00,260
I was very worried.

3291
01:59:00,380 --> 01:59:01,880
The tornadoes are terrible.

3292
01:59:02,020 --> 01:59:02,960
It's got nothing to do with you.

3293
01:59:03,140 --> 01:59:04,520
And you know what the first report was?

3294
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:06,060
I hate to say it, but it's always

3295
01:59:06,060 --> 01:59:07,920
some poor guy in a mobile home.

3296
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:10,540
It's like, it's just always the mobile homes.

3297
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:11,460
They're magnetic.

3298
01:59:12,420 --> 01:59:14,140
They attract them for some reason.

3299
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:18,520
Yeah, Louisiana, 34 people killed yesterday, according to

3300
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:19,660
Jeremy the Dell dealer.

3301
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:22,200
So, it's not good.

3302
01:59:22,300 --> 01:59:22,780
It's not good.

3303
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:26,020
Anyway, those trolls, I don't know if anyone

3304
01:59:26,020 --> 01:59:28,800
is from Louisiana, but the trolls are hanging

3305
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:30,960
out in the troll room at trollroom.io.

3306
01:59:31,100 --> 01:59:32,980
They might be listening on a modern podcast

3307
01:59:32,980 --> 01:59:33,140
app.

3308
01:59:33,180 --> 01:59:34,020
I checked, actually.

3309
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:38,480
You'd think that Fountain was a leading app.

3310
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:40,760
It turns out 17% of people listen

3311
01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:44,740
to this show on Podverse, which I was

3312
01:59:44,740 --> 01:59:45,400
surprised by.

3313
01:59:45,580 --> 01:59:46,200
How did you get that number?

3314
01:59:46,500 --> 01:59:48,140
Oh, at op3.dev?

3315
01:59:50,140 --> 01:59:51,260
This is another...

3316
01:59:51,260 --> 01:59:51,820
Sorry I asked.

3317
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:58,500
Op3.dev. This is an open source download

3318
01:59:59,100 --> 02:00:02,440
system, which the numbers really don't matter as

3319
02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:04,060
long as everybody uses it, and a lot

3320
02:00:04,060 --> 02:00:05,320
of people are starting to use it, so

3321
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:06,520
you can all kind of see what you're

3322
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:06,800
doing.

3323
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:09,180
We have, in the month of February, which

3324
02:00:09,180 --> 02:00:12,660
was a short month, we had 875,000

3325
02:00:12,660 --> 02:00:16,500
unique people downloading the show, whatever that means.

3326
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:20,680
But Podverse, you know how many people listen

3327
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:23,180
at noagendashow.net on the website?

3328
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:26,100
Just take a guess.

3329
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:26,600
Lots.

3330
02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:27,960
11%.

3331
02:00:28,480 --> 02:00:29,980
Yeah, that didn't surprise me.

3332
02:00:30,060 --> 02:00:32,500
I listen to most podcasts online like that.

3333
02:00:32,620 --> 02:00:33,580
You know, it's surprising.

3334
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:36,320
I think the concept of a podcast app

3335
02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:38,320
is kind of a little outdated.

3336
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:41,460
Well, not if it's only 11%.

3337
02:00:41,460 --> 02:00:43,120
That means that 90% of people are

3338
02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:44,320
using it on an app.

3339
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:47,440
Oh no, all kinds of different things.

3340
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:49,660
That's just noagendashow.net.

3341
02:00:49,660 --> 02:00:51,420
People who listen to it from other places,

3342
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:52,840
it's amazing.

3343
02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:54,460
Well, what's the number of people using it

3344
02:00:54,460 --> 02:00:54,960
on an app?

3345
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:57,960
Because an app is the original podcast concept.

3346
02:00:58,340 --> 02:01:00,200
The total number is less than half.

3347
02:01:01,320 --> 02:01:02,480
Well, that's still a good number.

3348
02:01:03,100 --> 02:01:04,620
Is it growing or shrinking?

3349
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:05,420
There's the question.

3350
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:06,220
The apps are shrinking.

3351
02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:07,860
What is the vector?

3352
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:13,840
The vector directional I don't have another word

3353
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:17,460
for it, is down on apps, and I

3354
02:01:17,460 --> 02:01:20,240
think it's because, well, first of all, back

3355
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:24,560
when we created podcast apps, there was no

3356
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:24,920
bandwidth.

3357
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:28,780
You had maybe always on computing, and you

3358
02:01:28,780 --> 02:01:29,640
had one device.

3359
02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:30,500
It was the iPod.

3360
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:31,600
You didn't have a smartphone.

3361
02:01:32,140 --> 02:01:33,820
Now you just tap on something, it plays

3362
02:01:33,820 --> 02:01:34,260
right away.

3363
02:01:34,340 --> 02:01:36,520
The whole point was it downloads your podcast

3364
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:39,420
when you're sleeping or whatever, and you pick

3365
02:01:39,420 --> 02:01:40,880
up your iPod and you got your new

3366
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:41,280
shows.

3367
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:43,720
I think really what it is, it's the

3368
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:47,440
inbox fatigue because you look at your podcast

3369
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:49,440
app and you're like, oh, I got 57

3370
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:51,260
as shows I haven't listened to.

3371
02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:53,080
I think it's depressing people.

3372
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:55,300
That's just my thinking.

3373
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:55,900
I don't know.

3374
02:01:56,260 --> 02:01:59,700
Well, I know Mimi listens when she listens

3375
02:01:59,700 --> 02:02:03,560
streaming, and if she misses it, she's like,

3376
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:06,140
oh, maybe I'll catch next show.

3377
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:07,500
She sent me a note.

3378
02:02:09,260 --> 02:02:10,340
She sent me a note.

3379
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:12,580
Drat the luck, she says.

3380
02:02:12,860 --> 02:02:14,940
There goes my leverage over John.

3381
02:02:16,220 --> 02:02:19,120
Oh, about the fact that you discovered my

3382
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:20,320
11 labs trick.

3383
02:02:20,460 --> 02:02:20,860
Yes.

3384
02:02:21,340 --> 02:02:22,980
I guess she was lording that over you

3385
02:02:22,980 --> 02:02:24,800
like, take out the garbage or I'm going

3386
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:25,500
to tell Adam.

3387
02:02:26,620 --> 02:02:27,020
What?

3388
02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:27,900
Do the laundry.

3389
02:02:28,060 --> 02:02:28,760
I'm going to tell Adam.

3390
02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:29,900
Was she doing that to you, man?

3391
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:30,540
Was she doing that?

3392
02:02:30,540 --> 02:02:31,740
Yeah, that's all she does.

3393
02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:32,880
Aw, this is horrible.

3394
02:02:33,160 --> 02:02:34,900
Points of leverage, and it's like, it's a

3395
02:02:34,900 --> 02:02:35,780
normal marriage.

3396
02:02:35,940 --> 02:02:36,660
This is what you do.

3397
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:39,160
Maybe after 35 years.

3398
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:40,160
How long have you guys been married?

3399
02:02:40,780 --> 02:02:41,320
I don't know.

3400
02:02:45,300 --> 02:02:46,320
That's my favorite.

3401
02:02:46,620 --> 02:02:47,020
I don't know.

3402
02:02:47,540 --> 02:02:49,840
You're celebrating your birthday coming up in April.

3403
02:02:49,980 --> 02:02:51,000
You don't know how old you are.

3404
02:02:51,140 --> 02:02:51,860
Like 65.

3405
02:02:52,340 --> 02:02:53,320
What are we this year?

3406
02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:54,020
I don't remember.

3407
02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:55,920
Yeah, something.

3408
02:02:56,120 --> 02:02:56,980
73, I think.

3409
02:02:56,980 --> 02:02:58,080
I don't think so.

3410
02:02:58,120 --> 02:02:58,880
Way too old.

3411
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:01,340
Way too old to be a podcaster.

3412
02:03:01,780 --> 02:03:03,340
Yet they call me the boomer.

3413
02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:04,180
I don't know.

3414
02:03:06,100 --> 02:03:06,980
It's horrific.

3415
02:03:08,120 --> 02:03:10,800
Anyway, the reason why you do want one

3416
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:13,140
of those modern podcast apps like PodVersus is

3417
02:03:13,140 --> 02:03:15,000
because you can just keep it in your

3418
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:16,760
pocket, and then when we go live, the

3419
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:18,720
bat signal fires, and you get a notification.

3420
02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:19,640
Boom, you tap in.

3421
02:03:19,700 --> 02:03:20,380
You're listening live.

3422
02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:21,820
You'll never miss it.

3423
02:03:22,020 --> 02:03:23,940
Mimi should try that because then she won't

3424
02:03:23,940 --> 02:03:24,500
miss it.

3425
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:25,540
She can listen to it.

3426
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:26,140
It's too much work.

3427
02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:27,520
It's not too much work.

3428
02:03:31,110 --> 02:03:35,030
PodcastApps.com The entire podcast, one of the

3429
02:03:35,030 --> 02:03:38,530
genius things we did, considering all the hate

3430
02:03:38,530 --> 02:03:42,610
we've gotten throughout the years, I mean, just

3431
02:03:42,610 --> 02:03:43,990
COVID itself.

3432
02:03:44,110 --> 02:03:46,770
Remember in the beginning with COVID, you guys

3433
02:03:46,770 --> 02:03:47,570
are horrible.

3434
02:03:47,770 --> 02:03:50,390
I can't believe that you think this is

3435
02:03:50,390 --> 02:03:50,870
bullcrap.

3436
02:03:50,990 --> 02:03:53,490
This is the worst disaster ever.

3437
02:03:53,810 --> 02:03:55,290
We're all going to die.

3438
02:03:55,390 --> 02:03:56,570
I can't believe it.

3439
02:03:57,530 --> 02:03:59,410
And then, remember when the Ukraine war kicked

3440
02:03:59,410 --> 02:03:59,710
off?

3441
02:04:00,110 --> 02:04:01,350
People left the show.

3442
02:04:01,430 --> 02:04:02,230
They rage quit.

3443
02:04:02,310 --> 02:04:04,010
Yeah, we lost a lot of listeners because

3444
02:04:04,010 --> 02:04:05,870
we weren't in support of this stupid war.

3445
02:04:06,030 --> 02:04:06,710
Oh, man.

3446
02:04:06,830 --> 02:04:08,770
I mean, there were even Ukraine flags all

3447
02:04:08,770 --> 02:04:10,110
over Hill Country at the time.

3448
02:04:11,150 --> 02:04:13,350
So, you know, yes, but we weren't in

3449
02:04:13,350 --> 02:04:13,890
lockstep.

3450
02:04:14,210 --> 02:04:17,090
And we never will be because that's our

3451
02:04:17,090 --> 02:04:17,390
nature.

3452
02:04:17,890 --> 02:04:20,830
If we had had advertising, we definitely would

3453
02:04:20,830 --> 02:04:21,490
have lost advertising.

3454
02:04:21,850 --> 02:04:22,450
Oh, we'd be out of business.

3455
02:04:23,390 --> 02:04:25,810
We'd be podcasting for free, that's for sure.

3456
02:04:26,450 --> 02:04:28,790
So instead, we decided, you know what, why

3457
02:04:28,790 --> 02:04:30,850
don't we just, the people who come at

3458
02:04:30,850 --> 02:04:32,730
this moment in time for such a time

3459
02:04:32,730 --> 02:04:33,190
as this.

3460
02:04:33,410 --> 02:04:34,930
And some people come and some people go.

3461
02:04:34,990 --> 02:04:37,130
I'm reminded of when I was doing that

3462
02:04:37,130 --> 02:04:38,990
research on this Khalil guy.

3463
02:04:39,770 --> 02:04:41,630
I was reminded of our, we had a

3464
02:04:41,630 --> 02:04:44,090
guy who was a genuine economic hitman who

3465
02:04:44,090 --> 02:04:44,890
listened to the show.

3466
02:04:46,370 --> 02:04:51,610
And he was great because he would tell

3467
02:04:51,610 --> 02:04:53,770
us or at least give me certain...

3468
02:04:53,770 --> 02:04:54,830
He never wanted to talk to me.

3469
02:04:54,830 --> 02:04:56,470
He would give me some insight onto what

3470
02:04:56,470 --> 02:04:58,050
was, especially Africa, what was going on.

3471
02:04:58,070 --> 02:04:59,090
He went to John Hopkins.

3472
02:04:59,270 --> 02:05:01,110
He was working there for some office.

3473
02:05:01,790 --> 02:05:03,370
And then all of a sudden, he started

3474
02:05:03,370 --> 02:05:06,630
dating a Russian girl who turned out to

3475
02:05:06,630 --> 02:05:09,930
be working for that State Department, that little

3476
02:05:09,930 --> 02:05:12,290
creepy State Department Intelligence Service.

3477
02:05:12,910 --> 02:05:15,670
And she just said, stop listening to those

3478
02:05:15,670 --> 02:05:16,150
guys.

3479
02:05:18,620 --> 02:05:19,520
And that's what he did.

3480
02:05:20,640 --> 02:05:22,860
And the reason I was looking at it,

3481
02:05:22,860 --> 02:05:24,700
because I looked at the State Department, this

3482
02:05:24,700 --> 02:05:26,980
agency is called the Bureau of Intelligence and

3483
02:05:26,980 --> 02:05:30,000
Research, which is, INR is referred to as

3484
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:32,200
a small group.

3485
02:05:32,820 --> 02:05:33,300
INR?

3486
02:05:33,420 --> 02:05:34,000
Is that what it's called?

3487
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:34,600
INR?

3488
02:05:34,620 --> 02:05:35,380
Yeah, INR.

3489
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:38,260
It's between 300 and 500 people.

3490
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:40,480
They don't know for sure because it's the

3491
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:42,500
most secretive of all our intel agencies.

3492
02:05:43,020 --> 02:05:46,260
And I think that the reason Rubio is

3493
02:05:46,260 --> 02:05:49,420
acting so cocky is because they put this

3494
02:05:49,420 --> 02:05:51,280
guy in who's originally a Trump guy.

3495
02:05:51,380 --> 02:05:53,600
He's got a Blum or BLOM or BLOM.

3496
02:05:53,740 --> 02:05:54,800
This guy runs it.

3497
02:05:55,180 --> 02:05:59,220
He's Undersecretary of State temporarily.

3498
02:05:59,220 --> 02:06:03,660
But this intelligence agency, I think it's got

3499
02:06:03,660 --> 02:06:10,200
so much good stuff that it opened Rubio's

3500
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:13,980
eyes and he was just basically pissed all

3501
02:06:13,980 --> 02:06:16,340
the time because of what's going on, that

3502
02:06:16,340 --> 02:06:17,720
he now knows what's going on, but he

3503
02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:18,860
can't really say.

3504
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:21,080
Which is why I think he does have

3505
02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:23,420
that tell of talking too fast, which has

3506
02:06:23,420 --> 02:06:27,900
got to be corrected when he's got information.

3507
02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:29,880
I think that's why he was going too

3508
02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:33,020
nutty about this Khalil character.

3509
02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:36,660
They've obviously known about the guy.

3510
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:39,340
Now either this is an extraction, as I

3511
02:06:39,340 --> 02:06:41,320
suggested, or it could be some guy's gone

3512
02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:43,360
rogue and they had to get him out

3513
02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:43,540
of there.

3514
02:06:43,580 --> 02:06:45,520
But they let him get his degree from

3515
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:47,880
his master's from SIPA so that it wasn't

3516
02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:48,500
that bad.

3517
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:51,480
But yes, there's a bunch of this.

3518
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:53,820
The whole government is too spooky.

3519
02:06:54,380 --> 02:07:00,480
And then October 7th when we defended Israel.

3520
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:04,000
We didn't blame the Jews.

3521
02:07:05,660 --> 02:07:08,540
No, but we did talk about the possibilities

3522
02:07:09,220 --> 02:07:09,980
of what?

3523
02:07:10,500 --> 02:07:12,140
That it was a setup.

3524
02:07:12,540 --> 02:07:15,920
They were lured in to make this attack.

3525
02:07:16,020 --> 02:07:17,380
Oh, I still believe it was a setup.

3526
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:18,360
Totally discussed.

3527
02:07:18,580 --> 02:07:22,300
Even the guy in charge says, oh, we

3528
02:07:22,300 --> 02:07:22,880
screwed up.

3529
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:23,780
Yeah, all right.

3530
02:07:24,540 --> 02:07:26,420
But that's not the point, you see.

3531
02:07:27,020 --> 02:07:28,540
You have to hate the Jews because the

3532
02:07:28,540 --> 02:07:31,740
Jews have everything on Epstein, and Epstein controls

3533
02:07:31,740 --> 02:07:34,780
all of Congress and the Senate and Trump.

3534
02:07:35,900 --> 02:07:38,460
There were people on X the other day

3535
02:07:38,460 --> 02:07:42,040
asking Grok, does Adam have Jewish ancestry?

3536
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:44,000
Really?

3537
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:44,620
Yes.

3538
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:46,400
This is how unhinged.

3539
02:07:46,900 --> 02:07:50,240
And luckily Grok came back and said, no,

3540
02:07:50,300 --> 02:07:51,260
it doesn't seem like it.

3541
02:07:51,500 --> 02:07:54,000
Well, his dad was a high-ranking CIA

3542
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:54,520
official.

3543
02:07:54,900 --> 02:07:56,680
Maybe my uncle, but no.

3544
02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:59,520
I mean, people are nuts, John.

3545
02:07:59,620 --> 02:08:00,120
They're nuts.

3546
02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:02,100
They're nuts.

3547
02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:03,060
They are nuts.

3548
02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:03,520
They're nuts.

3549
02:08:03,660 --> 02:08:04,620
And they're stupid.

3550
02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:06,060
Yeah, there's a lot of that.

3551
02:08:06,060 --> 02:08:07,120
They're suckers.

3552
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:07,560
There's a lot.

3553
02:08:07,720 --> 02:08:09,820
Well, I also think there's a lot of

3554
02:08:09,820 --> 02:08:11,140
bots on X still.

3555
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:12,400
There's a lot of bots.

3556
02:08:13,500 --> 02:08:17,680
So, and I think that Blockman brink, that

3557
02:08:17,680 --> 02:08:19,720
must have been some kind of op.

3558
02:08:21,340 --> 02:08:23,060
I would think, yeah, it sounds like it.

3559
02:08:23,100 --> 02:08:25,800
I think we get tested once in a

3560
02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:27,340
while by some of these guys to see

3561
02:08:27,340 --> 02:08:28,400
how we react to it.

3562
02:08:28,740 --> 02:08:29,780
Good luck, guys.

3563
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:31,120
You've got to get up a lot earlier

3564
02:08:31,120 --> 02:08:33,540
to stir a problem with these boomers.

3565
02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:35,740
Yeah, we're all boomers.

3566
02:08:36,460 --> 02:08:37,420
I'm the old boomer.

3567
02:08:37,460 --> 02:08:38,240
You're the young boomer.

3568
02:08:38,580 --> 02:08:40,100
I can't give into it.

3569
02:08:40,340 --> 02:08:41,640
It's hard for me to admit.

3570
02:08:42,460 --> 02:08:42,860
64.

3571
02:08:43,100 --> 02:08:44,400
I don't think you need to admit it.

3572
02:08:44,440 --> 02:08:47,500
You can be whatever that one crazy moniker

3573
02:08:47,500 --> 02:08:47,940
was.

3574
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:48,980
Generation Jones.

3575
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:50,100
Generation Jones.

3576
02:08:51,300 --> 02:08:51,940
Oh, brother.

3577
02:08:52,940 --> 02:08:54,540
Generation Alex Jones.

3578
02:08:54,800 --> 02:08:56,620
I mean, what kind of generation is that?

3579
02:08:58,220 --> 02:09:00,200
So we decided to run it on a

3580
02:09:00,200 --> 02:09:02,260
system we call value for value.

3581
02:09:03,420 --> 02:09:06,480
And that means very simply, if you get

3582
02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:07,920
anything out of this show, send it back

3583
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:08,300
to us.

3584
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:09,220
Send the value back.

3585
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:10,480
Time, talent, treasure.

3586
02:09:11,160 --> 02:09:12,920
People have done a lot of things for

3587
02:09:12,920 --> 02:09:13,660
us throughout the years.

3588
02:09:13,860 --> 02:09:15,540
Back in the day, one of our producers,

3589
02:09:15,740 --> 02:09:16,400
I forget who it was.

3590
02:09:16,460 --> 02:09:17,240
I don't know if he's still around.

3591
02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:21,080
He jerry-rigged the SEO for No Agenda.

3592
02:09:21,500 --> 02:09:24,140
And we still have the first two pages,

3593
02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:24,460
I think.

3594
02:09:24,500 --> 02:09:26,180
If you just search for No Agenda, aren't

3595
02:09:26,180 --> 02:09:27,100
we still...

3596
02:09:27,100 --> 02:09:29,920
Yeah, we're still dominating the search.

3597
02:09:30,500 --> 02:09:31,780
Yeah, No Agenda Show.

3598
02:09:33,180 --> 02:09:34,320
No Agenda Podcast.

3599
02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:35,140
Oh, on YouTube.

3600
02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:35,740
We're on YouTube.

3601
02:09:35,980 --> 02:09:36,340
Oh, really?

3602
02:09:38,140 --> 02:09:38,540
Yeah.

3603
02:09:38,700 --> 02:09:40,300
No Agenda News Network.

3604
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:42,080
Yeah, there's still...

3605
02:09:42,080 --> 02:09:42,780
EULA for you.

3606
02:09:42,900 --> 02:09:43,540
I mean, yeah.

3607
02:09:43,960 --> 02:09:45,380
So that kind of stuff has been very,

3608
02:09:45,500 --> 02:09:45,920
very helpful.

3609
02:09:46,040 --> 02:09:48,520
Now, we also appreciate the work that our

3610
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:49,240
artists do.

3611
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:52,380
I think this also does help to some

3612
02:09:52,380 --> 02:09:54,960
degree with search engine optimization.

3613
02:09:55,520 --> 02:09:59,100
They must confuse the AI when they're scanning

3614
02:09:59,100 --> 02:10:01,420
through our system, like, oh, I'm ingesting something

3615
02:10:01,420 --> 02:10:01,940
I made.

3616
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:03,460
Blah, blah, blah.

3617
02:10:03,700 --> 02:10:04,580
I'm going to puke.

3618
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:07,840
And that's probably what Gunmonkey did, who brought

3619
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:10,020
us the artwork for episode 1746.

3620
02:10:10,020 --> 02:10:13,440
We titled that Bedtime Hygiene, which is what

3621
02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:15,140
TikTok now delivers to your kids.

3622
02:10:15,700 --> 02:10:18,840
And he created a Canadian cow.

3623
02:10:19,940 --> 02:10:20,060
Yeah.

3624
02:10:21,580 --> 02:10:22,940
Yeah, it was cute.

3625
02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:24,820
Well, cute is the right word.

3626
02:10:25,020 --> 02:10:26,420
That's exactly what it was.

3627
02:10:26,460 --> 02:10:27,420
It was just cute.

3628
02:10:28,100 --> 02:10:30,900
And Gunmonkey has only been around for a

3629
02:10:30,900 --> 02:10:31,280
month.

3630
02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:34,620
Yeah, but he submits quite a few pieces.

3631
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:36,400
He's got AI chops.

3632
02:10:36,620 --> 02:10:38,120
He does have some AI chops.

3633
02:10:38,580 --> 02:10:40,020
And this is no agenda.

3634
02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:41,540
This was an AI piece.

3635
02:10:41,640 --> 02:10:42,680
There's no question about it.

3636
02:10:42,820 --> 02:10:43,860
All his pieces are AI.

3637
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:45,480
Let's see.

3638
02:10:45,820 --> 02:10:47,640
Now, the one you wanted, of course, was

3639
02:10:47,640 --> 02:10:51,620
Darren O'Neal's red-headed cheesecake holding up

3640
02:10:51,620 --> 02:10:53,220
the sign, JCD was right.

3641
02:10:53,860 --> 02:10:55,240
Yes, that would be the best one to

3642
02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:55,580
use.

3643
02:10:57,660 --> 02:11:00,620
And then you said, let's just use Snow

3644
02:11:00,620 --> 02:11:00,960
White.

3645
02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:02,820
I'm like, you want a lawsuit from Disney?

3646
02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:04,520
I forgot about that.

3647
02:11:04,520 --> 02:11:06,780
Yeah, that didn't make any sense.

3648
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:09,120
What else?

3649
02:11:09,240 --> 02:11:11,220
There's a big F-U-C-K I

3650
02:11:11,220 --> 02:11:14,120
was also the one who pushed the cow.

3651
02:11:14,560 --> 02:11:15,560
You did push the cow.

3652
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:17,400
Because you were kind of pushing back against

3653
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:17,680
the cow.

3654
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:18,900
You didn't like it at first.

3655
02:11:19,120 --> 02:11:20,460
Well, there wasn't much else.

3656
02:11:20,700 --> 02:11:23,860
There wasn't anything else compared to the cow.

3657
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:24,860
You pushed the cow.

3658
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:25,720
You were right.

3659
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:27,440
You were correct to push the cow.

3660
02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:30,320
And I can tell you, looking right now,

3661
02:11:30,380 --> 02:11:32,540
there's plenty of opportunity to still win the

3662
02:11:32,540 --> 02:11:36,260
coveted slot of artwork for the show, just

3663
02:11:36,260 --> 02:11:37,760
from what I'm seeing being submitted.

3664
02:11:37,980 --> 02:11:39,360
I guess we haven't come up with anything

3665
02:11:39,360 --> 02:11:39,860
good yet.

3666
02:11:40,380 --> 02:11:41,500
It's always our own fault.

3667
02:11:43,000 --> 02:11:45,320
Yes, the content determines the art.

3668
02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:46,560
It does, it does.

3669
02:11:47,500 --> 02:11:49,220
NoahJennerArtGenerator.com thank you very much.

3670
02:11:49,880 --> 02:11:50,360
Gun...

3671
02:11:50,360 --> 02:11:51,080
what was his name?

3672
02:11:51,860 --> 02:11:52,340
Gun...

3673
02:11:52,980 --> 02:11:53,460
Gun...

3674
02:11:53,460 --> 02:11:54,440
Gun Monkey.

3675
02:11:54,620 --> 02:11:55,520
Gun Monkey, yes.

3676
02:11:55,880 --> 02:11:56,860
Good job, Gun Monkey.

3677
02:11:57,620 --> 02:11:59,660
Of course, many of these pieces of art

3678
02:11:59,660 --> 02:12:02,560
show up in our chapters, which are available

3679
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:07,440
in many podcast apps, even PocketCast, which is

3680
02:12:07,440 --> 02:12:08,400
a very big app.

3681
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:11,480
They now also have chapters, the 2.0

3682
02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:11,920
chapters.

3683
02:12:12,160 --> 02:12:14,460
They have a web-based player now.

3684
02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:17,720
So, you can get your art seen far

3685
02:12:17,720 --> 02:12:18,120
and wide.

3686
02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:20,700
Now, as a part of our time talent,

3687
02:12:20,820 --> 02:12:23,280
we have the treasure in Value for Value,

3688
02:12:23,340 --> 02:12:25,040
and that means we're going to thank people

3689
02:12:25,040 --> 02:12:27,620
who support the show financially, critically important.

3690
02:12:27,620 --> 02:12:31,160
And we always thank everybody $50 and above.

3691
02:12:31,380 --> 02:12:33,340
Anything under $50, we will not mention.

3692
02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:34,940
There's a cut-off there for reasons of

3693
02:12:34,940 --> 02:12:35,480
anonymity.

3694
02:12:36,380 --> 02:12:39,160
And as an extra bonus, if you support

3695
02:12:39,160 --> 02:12:42,240
us with $200 or more, you get a

3696
02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:43,920
credit, an official Hollywood credit.

3697
02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:47,060
This can be used anywhere, including IMDB.com,

3698
02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:50,860
the credit title of Associate Executive Producer, and

3699
02:12:50,860 --> 02:12:51,840
we will read your note.

3700
02:12:52,280 --> 02:12:54,240
$300 or above, then you go up to

3701
02:12:54,240 --> 02:12:56,460
the upper echelons, you become an Executive Producer,

3702
02:12:56,640 --> 02:12:58,180
and we will read your note.

3703
02:12:58,360 --> 02:13:00,900
Same criteria applied to Executive Producer.

3704
02:13:02,940 --> 02:13:05,360
Anywhere credits are recognized, it will be accepted.

3705
02:13:05,640 --> 02:13:07,960
That is one of the cheapest Executive Producer

3706
02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:08,420
credits you can buy.

3707
02:13:08,420 --> 02:13:08,900
No kidding.

3708
02:13:09,260 --> 02:13:10,720
Most of the time, if you're an Executive

3709
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:13,280
Producer of a movie, let's say, there's millions

3710
02:13:13,280 --> 02:13:13,500
of dollars involved.

3711
02:13:13,500 --> 02:13:14,220
You're in for millions.

3712
02:13:14,980 --> 02:13:15,420
Millions.

3713
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:17,260
You do get the bang the actress, but

3714
02:13:17,260 --> 02:13:19,540
hey, what do you want for $200?

3715
02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:21,900
Yeah, that's true.

3716
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:24,920
And we kick it off with Sir Mike,

3717
02:13:25,060 --> 02:13:26,780
who's in Las Vegas, Nevada, 51538.

3718
02:13:28,360 --> 02:13:28,980
Let's see.

3719
02:13:29,120 --> 02:13:31,420
Oh, that is the number he supported us

3720
02:13:31,420 --> 02:13:31,680
with.

3721
02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:35,860
ITM amigos, with this donation of 51538, I've

3722
02:13:35,860 --> 02:13:38,480
achieved the titles of both Commodore and Baron.

3723
02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:41,700
Last I saw the peerage map, MIA as

3724
02:13:41,700 --> 02:13:42,180
of today.

3725
02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:42,760
Oh, really?

3726
02:13:43,320 --> 02:13:43,440
Hmm.

3727
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:46,160
Clark County, Nevada was not taken, so I'd

3728
02:13:46,160 --> 02:13:47,600
like to claim that, since I do not

3729
02:13:47,600 --> 02:13:49,500
technically live in the city of Las Vegas.

3730
02:13:49,700 --> 02:13:51,960
I never received an official title, so I'd

3731
02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:53,660
like to be known as Sir Mike Slayer

3732
02:13:53,660 --> 02:13:56,540
of Taxes as a financial advisor who works

3733
02:13:56,540 --> 02:13:58,240
to save his clients from the taxman.

3734
02:13:58,600 --> 02:14:02,260
I can be found at BestFinancialAdvisorInTheUniverse.com.

3735
02:14:02,380 --> 02:14:03,820
Well, now there's one you can remember.

3736
02:14:06,220 --> 02:14:07,100
BestFinancialAdvisorInTheUniverse.com.

3737
02:14:07,260 --> 02:14:09,740
I would love some jobs karma for my

3738
02:14:09,740 --> 02:14:10,880
two human resources.

3739
02:14:11,500 --> 02:14:14,400
How about the original Nancy Pelosi jingle for

3740
02:14:14,400 --> 02:14:14,640
them?

3741
02:14:15,380 --> 02:14:16,500
Well, isn't that the one we play?

3742
02:14:16,680 --> 02:14:17,400
Yeah, that's the regular.

3743
02:14:17,540 --> 02:14:18,180
Yes, the normal one.

3744
02:14:18,180 --> 02:14:18,440
Yes.

3745
02:14:18,740 --> 02:14:21,200
And throw in a random Sharpton for me.

3746
02:14:21,320 --> 02:14:22,520
You can never go wrong with a little

3747
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:22,940
AI.

3748
02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:24,320
Oh, a little owl.

3749
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:25,560
I thought AI.

3750
02:14:25,960 --> 02:14:27,540
Can never go wrong with a little owl

3751
02:14:27,540 --> 02:14:28,660
to brighten my day.

3752
02:14:28,780 --> 02:14:30,960
Well, now there is a fact.

3753
02:14:31,100 --> 02:14:31,680
Let me see.

3754
02:14:32,040 --> 02:14:33,020
Do I have?

3755
02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:34,540
Yes, I got some little owl.

3756
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:36,560
Thanks for creating a bit of sanity in

3757
02:14:36,560 --> 02:14:38,240
this crazy world, and he will be a

3758
02:14:38,240 --> 02:14:38,980
Commodore as well.

3759
02:14:39,080 --> 02:14:41,780
Sir Commodore Baron Mike of Clark County, Nevada,

3760
02:14:42,180 --> 02:14:43,620
Slayer of Taxes.

3761
02:14:43,880 --> 02:14:47,120
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

3762
02:14:47,200 --> 02:14:48,760
Let's vote for jobs.

3763
02:14:50,540 --> 02:14:52,500
You've got karma.

3764
02:14:57,270 --> 02:15:02,010
R-E-S-P-I-C-T Aaron

3765
02:15:02,010 --> 02:15:05,190
comes up from Colorado Springs, Colorado at 515

3766
02:15:05,190 --> 02:15:06,170
.38, same amount.

3767
02:15:07,230 --> 02:15:09,090
The last six months have been a complete

3768
02:15:09,090 --> 02:15:11,610
excrement show for us.

3769
02:15:12,850 --> 02:15:16,230
I'm trying not to curse for Lent.

3770
02:15:18,080 --> 02:15:20,660
While I rely on Jesus Christ for most

3771
02:15:20,660 --> 02:15:23,240
of the support we need, I'm reaching out

3772
02:15:23,240 --> 02:15:25,320
for heathen jobs karma.

3773
02:15:26,480 --> 02:15:28,380
We got a whole helping for you.

3774
02:15:28,540 --> 02:15:29,240
A helping of heathens.

3775
02:15:29,240 --> 02:15:30,840
We got a lot of heathen jobs karma

3776
02:15:30,840 --> 02:15:31,360
for you there.

3777
02:15:31,380 --> 02:15:32,000
Yes, we do.

3778
02:15:32,080 --> 02:15:34,460
For my smoking hot wife, myself, and the

3779
02:15:34,460 --> 02:15:35,380
No Agenda community.

3780
02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:38,940
As this is my first donation, hopefully this

3781
02:15:38,940 --> 02:15:40,940
de- douches me.

3782
02:15:42,740 --> 02:15:44,500
You've been de-douched.

3783
02:15:45,140 --> 02:15:47,780
And is still in time for a Commodore

3784
02:15:47,780 --> 02:15:48,320
ship.

3785
02:15:49,060 --> 02:15:49,840
Yes, you got it.

3786
02:15:50,200 --> 02:15:52,200
I would like to give anyone, there's still

3787
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:54,420
time people, I would like to give value

3788
02:15:54,420 --> 02:15:56,780
for the sanity you provide over the last

3789
02:15:56,780 --> 02:15:57,560
several years.

3790
02:15:58,160 --> 02:15:59,820
Please give me the following jingles.

3791
02:16:00,080 --> 02:16:01,360
You're going to need a bitcoin.

3792
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:03,340
They're eating the cats.

3793
02:16:04,060 --> 02:16:06,120
Little girl, we're all going to die.

3794
02:16:06,580 --> 02:16:09,720
The F-35 scream followed by jobs karma

3795
02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:10,300
for all.

3796
02:16:10,340 --> 02:16:11,840
Oh my goodness, that's a lot.

3797
02:16:11,840 --> 02:16:16,380
Please call out Brennan and Joanna as douchebags.

3798
02:16:19,160 --> 02:16:19,420
One more.

3799
02:16:22,080 --> 02:16:23,500
God protect you.

3800
02:16:23,760 --> 02:16:24,820
Four more years.

3801
02:16:25,020 --> 02:16:26,840
Aaron in Colorado Springs.

3802
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:28,040
Colorado.

3803
02:16:29,140 --> 02:16:31,440
They're saying that all hell is going to

3804
02:16:31,440 --> 02:16:32,500
break loose and you're going to need a

3805
02:16:32,500 --> 02:16:32,740
bitcoin.

3806
02:16:35,270 --> 02:16:36,950
They're eating the dogs.

3807
02:16:37,170 --> 02:16:38,250
The people that came in.

3808
02:16:38,490 --> 02:16:39,629
They're eating the cats.

3809
02:16:39,870 --> 02:16:42,889
They're eating They're eating the pets.

3810
02:16:43,010 --> 02:16:44,530
We're all going to die.

3811
02:16:46,370 --> 02:16:49,450
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.

3812
02:16:49,610 --> 02:16:51,129
Let's vote for jobs.

3813
02:16:54,530 --> 02:16:55,930
A lot there.

3814
02:16:57,010 --> 02:16:57,750
Corey D.

3815
02:16:58,070 --> 02:17:01,950
Wright, Ellensburg, Washington, 333.33 Without a doubt

3816
02:17:01,950 --> 02:17:03,309
our favorite donation amount.

3817
02:17:03,469 --> 02:17:04,730
Hello, Crackpot and Buzzkill.

3818
02:17:05,250 --> 02:17:06,610
This is a first time donation.

3819
02:17:06,830 --> 02:17:08,450
I've been saving up the pennies and this

3820
02:17:08,450 --> 02:17:11,430
is a make good for past douchey transgressions.

3821
02:17:12,230 --> 02:17:13,850
A dude named Ben, who is a good

3822
02:17:13,850 --> 02:17:16,250
friend and suspected douchebag, hit me in the

3823
02:17:16,250 --> 02:17:17,090
mouth a while back.

3824
02:17:17,549 --> 02:17:19,510
In turn, I hid Big Head from Georgia

3825
02:17:19,510 --> 02:17:21,110
in the mouth and he beat me to

3826
02:17:21,110 --> 02:17:21,850
a de-douching.

3827
02:17:21,950 --> 02:17:23,770
I couldn't let this stand any longer.

3828
02:17:24,330 --> 02:17:26,430
My family all enjoy the show and want

3829
02:17:26,430 --> 02:17:27,629
you to keep up the great work.

3830
02:17:28,070 --> 02:17:30,170
A de-douching and a Donald loves Nazis

3831
02:17:30,170 --> 02:17:32,570
jingle pretty please from C-Dub and the

3832
02:17:32,570 --> 02:17:35,350
family in Ellensburg, Washington.

3833
02:17:37,230 --> 02:17:39,190
You've been de-douched.

3834
02:17:41,150 --> 02:17:43,150
Donald loves Nazis.

3835
02:17:44,129 --> 02:17:45,610
Donald loves Nazis.

3836
02:17:47,290 --> 02:17:50,650
CNN say that he's KKK and he shouts

3837
02:17:50,650 --> 02:17:51,770
a sick hail with it.

3838
02:17:51,930 --> 02:17:52,230
Wow.

3839
02:17:52,530 --> 02:17:52,830
Hey!

3840
02:17:54,129 --> 02:17:58,350
Ray Salmon in Madison, New Jersey, 333.

3841
02:17:58,370 --> 02:18:00,990
He wrote a note in as it came

3842
02:18:00,990 --> 02:18:01,830
in as a check.

3843
02:18:02,730 --> 02:18:07,030
ITM John and Adam encloses my contribution of

3844
02:18:07,030 --> 02:18:11,309
33333 which gets me to knighthood status.

3845
02:18:11,990 --> 02:18:12,990
He's got the accounting.

3846
02:18:14,150 --> 02:18:18,770
Please dub me Sir Woody the Phantom and

3847
02:18:18,770 --> 02:18:28,049
serve serve and serve Widow I can't read

3848
02:18:28,049 --> 02:18:29,670
Yeah, I saw it earlier.

3849
02:18:29,950 --> 02:18:33,750
It's Widow Jane 115 year whiskey and home

3850
02:18:33,750 --> 02:18:36,930
-baked Nestle Toll House cookie chocolate chip cookies.

3851
02:18:37,250 --> 02:18:38,969
Okay, then you've already ordered them.

3852
02:18:39,049 --> 02:18:40,709
Looks like pookies by the way.

3853
02:18:40,950 --> 02:18:42,629
Well, I ordered those too.

3854
02:18:42,969 --> 02:18:44,990
I would like a little girl, yay, Jobs

3855
02:18:44,990 --> 02:18:50,270
Karma Trump version for two good friends that

3856
02:18:50,270 --> 02:18:50,709
need it.

3857
02:18:50,809 --> 02:18:52,709
Thanks again for all your work.

3858
02:18:53,049 --> 02:18:56,709
Ray in Madison, New Jersey.

3859
02:18:57,990 --> 02:18:58,590
Jobs!

3860
02:18:59,389 --> 02:18:59,990
Jobs!

3861
02:18:59,990 --> 02:19:00,209
Jobs!

3862
02:19:02,709 --> 02:19:04,290
You've got Karma.

3863
02:19:06,950 --> 02:19:11,510
And that brings us to Sir Proteus in

3864
02:19:11,510 --> 02:19:12,350
Newark, Delaware.

3865
02:19:12,730 --> 02:19:13,950
This is a donation on behalf of my

3866
02:19:13,950 --> 02:19:18,950
wonderful wife Avis for her birthday on the

3867
02:19:18,950 --> 02:19:19,490
16th.

3868
02:19:19,570 --> 02:19:20,850
So just that's the name.

3869
02:19:20,870 --> 02:19:21,870
That's an interesting name.

3870
02:19:22,030 --> 02:19:22,690
Avis, yeah.

3871
02:19:22,809 --> 02:19:25,090
Spelled A-V-I-C-E Avis.

3872
02:19:25,610 --> 02:19:28,270
With this donation she reaches Damehood and she'll

3873
02:19:28,270 --> 02:19:30,629
become Dame Avis, Hugger of Hounds.

3874
02:19:31,190 --> 02:19:34,469
Avis, you are the best mother, friend and

3875
02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:34,969
wife.

3876
02:19:35,570 --> 02:19:37,850
You are aging like a fine wine so

3877
02:19:37,850 --> 02:19:39,850
each year with you is better than the

3878
02:19:39,850 --> 02:19:40,250
last.

3879
02:19:42,309 --> 02:19:44,590
Bro, here's a pro tip.

3880
02:19:45,350 --> 02:19:46,049
Pro tip.

3881
02:19:47,490 --> 02:19:50,210
Aging like a fine wine is not something

3882
02:19:50,210 --> 02:19:50,630
you say.

3883
02:19:50,670 --> 02:19:51,690
We know you mean well.

3884
02:19:51,850 --> 02:19:52,570
We know you mean well.

3885
02:19:52,870 --> 02:19:55,070
Jingles, biscuit on my birthday in Karma, Sir

3886
02:19:55,070 --> 02:19:55,550
Proteus.

3887
02:19:55,550 --> 02:19:57,470
They always give me a biscuit on my

3888
02:19:57,470 --> 02:19:57,910
birthday.

3889
02:19:59,370 --> 02:20:01,070
You've got karma.

3890
02:20:03,130 --> 02:20:05,970
Sir John in Heber Springs, Arkansas 3-17

3891
02:20:05,970 --> 02:20:06,630
-25.

3892
02:20:07,490 --> 02:20:11,030
Sir John, Knight of St. Patrick shouts Happy

3893
02:20:11,030 --> 02:20:12,090
St. Pat's.

3894
02:20:12,270 --> 02:20:12,750
Oh yes.

3895
02:20:13,070 --> 02:20:13,950
Happy St. Patrick's Day.

3896
02:20:13,950 --> 02:20:15,110
The St. Patrick's Day is tomorrow I think.

3897
02:20:15,230 --> 02:20:16,690
Is it today or tomorrow?

3898
02:20:17,350 --> 02:20:18,050
I think it's tomorrow.

3899
02:20:18,230 --> 02:20:20,270
If it's today you probably made a donation.

3900
02:20:20,490 --> 02:20:22,170
I got drunk on the wrong day.

3901
02:20:22,170 --> 02:20:23,470
Oh no.

3902
02:20:23,910 --> 02:20:28,110
Also a shout out to Sir Slartibartfast.

3903
02:20:29,010 --> 02:20:31,950
I'll meet you at the restaurant at the

3904
02:20:31,950 --> 02:20:33,550
end of the universe.

3905
02:20:33,770 --> 02:20:34,030
Code.

3906
02:20:34,190 --> 02:20:34,810
There's code.

3907
02:20:35,510 --> 02:20:37,310
Douglas Adams material.

3908
02:20:37,690 --> 02:20:40,910
3-14-15 from Sir Facetension and he

3909
02:20:40,910 --> 02:20:42,290
requests a random Sharpton.

3910
02:20:42,430 --> 02:20:44,130
I'm donating on behalf of my late mother

3911
02:20:44,130 --> 02:20:46,890
Ann Stedman, born on March 14th.

3912
02:20:46,950 --> 02:20:48,390
We with her are happy belated.

3913
02:20:48,850 --> 02:20:51,090
I'll have the executive producer credit as she

3914
02:20:51,090 --> 02:20:51,810
hated the show.

3915
02:20:54,870 --> 02:20:55,270
Great.

3916
02:20:55,530 --> 02:20:56,550
Rest in peace, Ann.

3917
02:20:57,310 --> 02:20:59,110
After a few years, I'll award her a

3918
02:20:59,110 --> 02:21:00,310
damehood out of spite.

3919
02:21:00,730 --> 02:21:02,110
A spitehood, if you will.

3920
02:21:02,450 --> 02:21:03,470
Play me out with some...

3921
02:21:03,470 --> 02:21:04,110
Ooh, a spitehood.

3922
02:21:04,310 --> 02:21:04,550
A spitehood.

3923
02:21:04,770 --> 02:21:05,730
This is a good one.

3924
02:21:05,870 --> 02:21:07,630
People should be doing that all the time.

3925
02:21:07,710 --> 02:21:08,390
A spitehood.

3926
02:21:08,510 --> 02:21:10,050
Play me out with some Sharpton, please.

3927
02:21:14,110 --> 02:21:16,490
R-E-S-P-I-C-T Beautiful.

3928
02:21:16,910 --> 02:21:17,310
Spitehood.

3929
02:21:17,410 --> 02:21:19,350
And here comes Sir Scovey, our buddy in

3930
02:21:19,350 --> 02:21:20,490
Charlotte, North Carolina.

3931
02:21:20,590 --> 02:21:21,590
3-14-15.

3932
02:21:22,410 --> 02:21:25,950
The content in the donation segments of late

3933
02:21:25,950 --> 02:21:27,950
has been outstanding.

3934
02:21:28,410 --> 02:21:28,570
Amen.

3935
02:21:28,770 --> 02:21:29,470
Thank you.

3936
02:21:29,650 --> 02:21:30,070
Yes.

3937
02:21:30,770 --> 02:21:33,070
This donation brings me to Archduke.

3938
02:21:33,390 --> 02:21:36,830
The usual roundtable fare will do, plus a

3939
02:21:36,830 --> 02:21:40,690
round of Pabst Blue Ribbon for the trolls

3940
02:21:40,690 --> 02:21:41,790
in the troll room.

3941
02:21:42,090 --> 02:21:44,270
Thank you for your courage, Sir Scovey, the

3942
02:21:44,270 --> 02:21:45,990
Archduke of the Piedmont.

3943
02:21:46,490 --> 02:21:47,370
Very nice.

3944
02:21:47,850 --> 02:21:52,670
3-13-50 from Anonymous in Omaha, Nebraska.

3945
02:21:53,430 --> 02:21:55,070
It could be Warren Buffett, for all we

3946
02:21:55,070 --> 02:21:55,330
know.

3947
02:21:56,250 --> 02:21:57,910
Adam and John, in honor of the new

3948
02:21:57,910 --> 02:21:59,810
the ball is in your half of the

3949
02:21:59,810 --> 02:22:03,390
court day, which is now forever March 13th.

3950
02:22:03,390 --> 02:22:04,270
3-13th.

3951
02:22:04,270 --> 02:22:05,150
Yes, 3-13.

3952
02:22:05,310 --> 02:22:06,370
The ball is in your half of the

3953
02:22:06,370 --> 02:22:06,730
court day.

3954
02:22:07,170 --> 02:22:09,990
I send to you 3-13 and one

3955
02:22:09,990 --> 02:22:12,210
extra half a dollar to drive home the

3956
02:22:12,210 --> 02:22:15,610
point that this is now your half of

3957
02:22:15,610 --> 02:22:16,090
the court.

3958
02:22:16,610 --> 02:22:17,350
John is right.

3959
02:22:18,450 --> 02:22:22,010
What an absolute BS nonsensical saying.

3960
02:22:22,430 --> 02:22:24,170
Add this to the list of other idioms

3961
02:22:24,170 --> 02:22:25,930
that are trashed but still repeated.

3962
02:22:26,070 --> 02:22:26,770
And he has a list.

3963
02:22:27,310 --> 02:22:28,430
The proof is in the pudding.

3964
02:22:30,690 --> 02:22:31,710
That's a good one.

3965
02:22:32,490 --> 02:22:33,430
Bite the bullet.

3966
02:22:34,210 --> 02:22:37,670
Reigning cats and dogs put a sock in

3967
02:22:37,670 --> 02:22:40,190
it and you can have your cake and

3968
02:22:40,190 --> 02:22:41,130
eat it too.

3969
02:22:41,950 --> 02:22:44,470
I'll take reigning cats and dogs for 300,

3970
02:22:44,770 --> 02:22:44,910
Alex.

3971
02:22:46,050 --> 02:22:47,950
If you could write 100 pages on how

3972
02:22:47,950 --> 02:22:50,670
wrong these are I could write 100 pages

3973
02:22:50,670 --> 02:22:52,410
on how wrong these all are, but I

3974
02:22:52,410 --> 02:22:52,950
won't.

3975
02:22:53,030 --> 02:22:53,970
I know you guys are busy.

3976
02:22:54,090 --> 02:22:54,990
I struggle with brevity.

3977
02:22:55,150 --> 02:22:58,750
Jingles 9999 in WTC7 and a Jobs Karma.

3978
02:22:58,870 --> 02:22:59,970
Anonymous in Nebraska.

3979
02:22:59,970 --> 02:23:13,110
Bye Bye Bye Bye Bye WTC7

3980
02:23:13,110 --> 02:23:14,710
won't go away.

3981
02:23:15,750 --> 02:23:18,210
Jobs Jobs and Jobs.

3982
02:23:18,370 --> 02:23:21,870
Let's vote for Jobs Jobs Karma.

3983
02:23:23,530 --> 02:23:26,790
Onward with another regular Doctor Sharky.

3984
02:23:26,930 --> 02:23:31,250
Sir, Doctor Sharky in Jackson, Tennessee, 22905.

3985
02:23:31,810 --> 02:23:33,490
And he says, John and Adam, with this

3986
02:23:33,490 --> 02:23:36,870
donation, I have officially passed into dukedom.

3987
02:23:37,010 --> 02:23:37,310
Wow.

3988
02:23:39,030 --> 02:23:42,530
If approved by the No Agenda Peerage Committee,

3989
02:23:42,690 --> 02:23:45,370
I'd like to be known as Duke Sir

3990
02:23:45,370 --> 02:23:47,630
Dr. Sharky, Lord of Mars.

3991
02:23:48,030 --> 02:23:48,470
Oh.

3992
02:23:49,710 --> 02:23:51,850
That's fair game, fair game.

3993
02:23:52,230 --> 02:23:54,430
I want to claim it before Elon gets

3994
02:23:54,430 --> 02:23:54,850
there.

3995
02:23:55,710 --> 02:23:57,490
ITM, karma for all.

3996
02:23:58,730 --> 02:24:00,150
Yes, karma for all.

3997
02:24:00,270 --> 02:24:00,810
You got it.

3998
02:24:02,010 --> 02:24:03,650
You've got karma.

3999
02:24:04,730 --> 02:24:07,270
And that brings us to Bensonville, Illinois.

4000
02:24:07,550 --> 02:24:08,650
It's Eli the Coffee Guy.

4001
02:24:08,810 --> 02:24:12,050
He's back, 20316, Associate Executive Producership for him.

4002
02:24:12,130 --> 02:24:13,550
And then he says, shout out to the

4003
02:24:13,550 --> 02:24:15,330
Millennial Media Offensive Podcast.

4004
02:24:15,790 --> 02:24:17,710
I initially found them on the No Agenda

4005
02:24:17,710 --> 02:24:19,510
stream and have been listening ever since.

4006
02:24:19,810 --> 02:24:22,010
They're on point with their news analysis, especially

4007
02:24:22,010 --> 02:24:23,670
breakdowns of international events.

4008
02:24:23,670 --> 02:24:26,510
I would suggest all No Agenda producers give

4009
02:24:26,510 --> 02:24:27,070
them a listen.

4010
02:24:27,570 --> 02:24:30,190
I would also suggest that all producers visit

4011
02:24:30,190 --> 02:24:34,670
gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and grab some amazing fresh roasted

4012
02:24:34,670 --> 02:24:35,450
coffee today.

4013
02:24:35,930 --> 02:24:38,590
Remember to use code ITM20 at checkout for

4014
02:24:38,590 --> 02:24:41,270
20% off your order and stay caffeinated,

4015
02:24:41,670 --> 02:24:43,370
says Eli the Coffee Guy.

4016
02:24:44,010 --> 02:24:45,790
Which brings us to our last donor.

4017
02:24:46,150 --> 02:24:48,390
Linda Lou Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado comes with

4018
02:24:48,390 --> 02:24:50,790
$200 even and says, jobs karma.

4019
02:24:51,370 --> 02:24:54,470
And for a competitive edge with a resume

4020
02:24:54,470 --> 02:24:56,790
that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com for

4021
02:24:56,790 --> 02:24:58,870
all your executive resume and job search needs.

4022
02:24:59,070 --> 02:25:00,270
That's imagemakersinc with a K.

4023
02:25:00,630 --> 02:25:02,770
And work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs

4024
02:25:02,770 --> 02:25:03,970
and writer of resumes.

4025
02:25:04,490 --> 02:25:07,670
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

4026
02:25:07,930 --> 02:25:09,390
Let's vote for jobs.

4027
02:25:10,030 --> 02:25:11,470
You've got karma.

4028
02:25:11,790 --> 02:25:15,890
Yeah, and that wraps up our executive and

4029
02:25:15,890 --> 02:25:17,370
associate executive producers.

4030
02:25:17,370 --> 02:25:21,990
By the way, Professor Jay Jones in China

4031
02:25:22,530 --> 02:25:26,990
made a sitar karma in case everyone wants

4032
02:25:26,990 --> 02:25:27,890
that in the future.

4033
02:25:28,230 --> 02:25:31,730
Here's the, you can request that now.

4034
02:25:34,330 --> 02:25:35,850
You've got karma.

4035
02:25:36,550 --> 02:25:36,870
Woo!

4036
02:25:38,170 --> 02:25:39,790
And with a goat, in case you're needing

4037
02:25:39,790 --> 02:25:41,130
some sitar goat karma.

4038
02:25:42,390 --> 02:25:44,190
We thank these executives.

4039
02:25:44,330 --> 02:25:45,910
Worst sitar ever.

4040
02:25:48,750 --> 02:25:50,710
As sitar goes, it's pretty bad.

4041
02:25:51,490 --> 02:25:54,170
We appreciate you, executive and associate executive producers.

4042
02:25:54,250 --> 02:25:55,030
The credits are real.

4043
02:25:55,110 --> 02:25:56,130
They last a lifetime.

4044
02:25:56,370 --> 02:25:58,070
You can put them on imdb.com and

4045
02:25:58,070 --> 02:25:59,530
we will be thanking people.

4046
02:26:00,090 --> 02:26:01,950
$50 and above in our second segment.

4047
02:26:02,070 --> 02:26:03,270
We always thank everybody.

4048
02:26:03,430 --> 02:26:04,970
Tell you how much they supported us because

4049
02:26:04,970 --> 02:26:06,270
we enjoy it so much.

4050
02:26:06,630 --> 02:26:07,430
It is good for us.

4051
02:26:07,470 --> 02:26:08,210
It's good for the show.

4052
02:26:08,290 --> 02:26:10,070
It keeps us going for another three years

4053
02:26:10,070 --> 02:26:11,190
and nine months approximately.

4054
02:26:11,990 --> 02:26:13,930
We just shorten it to four more years.

4055
02:26:14,810 --> 02:26:17,090
Knowagendadonations.com, set up a recurring donation.

4056
02:26:17,090 --> 02:26:18,150
Check if you had one.

4057
02:26:18,230 --> 02:26:19,010
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02:26:19,490 --> 02:26:20,590
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4059
02:26:21,490 --> 02:26:22,370
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4060
02:26:22,490 --> 02:26:23,710
Ow, I didn't mean to do that one,

4061
02:26:23,750 --> 02:26:23,950
I mean.

4062
02:26:24,230 --> 02:26:26,770
I meant knowagendadonations.com and thank you again

4063
02:26:26,770 --> 02:26:27,870
for supporting the show.

4064
02:26:28,150 --> 02:26:29,430
Our formula is this.

4065
02:26:30,170 --> 02:26:32,550
We go out, we hit people in the

4066
02:26:32,550 --> 02:26:32,770
mouth.

4067
02:26:34,070 --> 02:26:34,990
Get out, get out, get out, get out,

4068
02:26:34,990 --> 02:26:35,210
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4069
02:26:35,210 --> 02:26:36,290
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4070
02:26:36,290 --> 02:26:36,390
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4071
02:26:36,390 --> 02:26:44,650
You, murder, order, shut up, shut up.

4072
02:26:47,830 --> 02:26:49,850
I want to run this clip.

4073
02:26:50,050 --> 02:26:53,490
This is a, you played Scott earlier with

4074
02:26:53,490 --> 02:26:54,310
another woman.

4075
02:26:54,930 --> 02:27:00,450
The clips I had earlier were Scott.

4076
02:27:00,990 --> 02:27:02,630
Oh, Scott from MPR.

4077
02:27:03,390 --> 02:27:06,970
Those were both from the show called Up

4078
02:27:06,970 --> 02:27:07,590
First.

4079
02:27:08,670 --> 02:27:12,430
And Up First is described the following way.

4080
02:27:12,530 --> 02:27:16,050
It's three stories in 15 minutes.

4081
02:27:16,570 --> 02:27:18,690
Wow, the things people have time for.

4082
02:27:19,550 --> 02:27:21,830
So they do three stories in 15 minutes.

4083
02:27:22,050 --> 02:27:24,230
I want to play the credit role.

4084
02:27:25,570 --> 02:27:26,090
Okay.

4085
02:27:26,570 --> 02:27:27,750
And you want, you know, you wonder about

4086
02:27:27,750 --> 02:27:30,730
doge and government waste and fraud and abuse.

4087
02:27:30,850 --> 02:27:31,130
Yes.

4088
02:27:31,250 --> 02:27:32,970
I want to play the credit role for

4089
02:27:32,970 --> 02:27:35,950
this show, Up First, which is three stories

4090
02:27:35,950 --> 02:27:37,950
in 15 minutes.

4091
02:27:38,430 --> 02:27:39,530
This is the credit role.

4092
02:27:39,750 --> 02:27:42,450
And that's Up First for Saturday, March 15th,

4093
02:27:42,450 --> 02:27:43,010
2025.

4094
02:27:43,550 --> 02:27:44,770
I'm Ayesha Roscoe.

4095
02:27:44,770 --> 02:27:45,790
And I'm Scott Simon.

4096
02:27:46,070 --> 02:27:49,190
Martin Patience produced today's episode with help from

4097
02:27:49,190 --> 02:27:51,290
Ryan Bank and Phil Harrell.

4098
02:27:51,610 --> 02:27:54,110
Our editors are Dee Parvez, Shannon Rhodes, Ed

4099
02:27:54,110 --> 02:27:57,350
McNulty, Kelsey Snell, and Arizu Resvani.

4100
02:27:57,910 --> 02:28:00,590
Andrew Craig is our director with support from

4101
02:28:00,590 --> 02:28:02,510
technical director, Andy Husser.

4102
02:28:02,890 --> 02:28:05,030
And the engineers who help us out, David

4103
02:28:05,030 --> 02:28:08,250
Greenberg, Zach Goldman, and Arthur Halliday-Lorent.

4104
02:28:08,570 --> 02:28:11,690
Evie Stone is our senior supervising editor and

4105
02:28:11,690 --> 02:28:14,550
Sarah Lucy Oliver is our executive producer.

4106
02:28:14,930 --> 02:28:17,850
Jim Cain is our deputy managing editor.

4107
02:28:18,310 --> 02:28:21,870
I counted and they actually have more producers

4108
02:28:21,870 --> 02:28:23,210
than we had for this show.

4109
02:28:25,650 --> 02:28:27,550
I counted it a couple of times to

4110
02:28:27,550 --> 02:28:28,130
get it right.

4111
02:28:28,870 --> 02:28:31,190
16 people were mentioned.

4112
02:28:31,850 --> 02:28:32,050
Yes.

4113
02:28:32,490 --> 02:28:35,430
Not including those two for a total of

4114
02:28:35,430 --> 02:28:38,910
18 people to put together a 15 minute

4115
02:28:38,910 --> 02:28:40,790
show of three stories.

4116
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:41,330
Yes.

4117
02:28:41,430 --> 02:28:43,590
And we do three to three and a

4118
02:28:43,590 --> 02:28:47,390
half hours with 12 executive and associate executive

4119
02:28:47,390 --> 02:28:51,310
producers who did nothing for the content except

4120
02:28:51,310 --> 02:28:52,990
for the funny content in their notes.

4121
02:28:53,990 --> 02:28:54,250
Yes.

4122
02:28:54,410 --> 02:28:57,230
They wrote a note saying, thank you.

4123
02:28:57,450 --> 02:28:57,570
Yeah.

4124
02:28:57,730 --> 02:28:57,970
Yeah.

4125
02:28:58,030 --> 02:28:59,330
They should doge that place.

4126
02:28:59,650 --> 02:29:01,090
Oh, is that a verb?

4127
02:29:01,150 --> 02:29:01,910
Is that a verb yet?

4128
02:29:02,030 --> 02:29:03,270
They should doge that place?

4129
02:29:03,550 --> 02:29:03,650
It should be.

4130
02:29:03,650 --> 02:29:04,150
Doge it.

4131
02:29:04,490 --> 02:29:05,170
Doge it.

4132
02:29:05,790 --> 02:29:08,910
So speaking of boomers, I think I forwarded

4133
02:29:08,910 --> 02:29:09,590
this to you.

4134
02:29:11,130 --> 02:29:14,150
Several of our boomer producers reached out and

4135
02:29:14,150 --> 02:29:17,910
said, hey, an old joke from John made

4136
02:29:17,910 --> 02:29:19,890
it into the AARP magazine.

4137
02:29:19,910 --> 02:29:20,010
Oh yeah.

4138
02:29:20,650 --> 02:29:21,650
Yeah, I did get that.

4139
02:29:22,250 --> 02:29:23,150
Let me see.

4140
02:29:23,230 --> 02:29:23,930
Where is it here?

4141
02:29:26,970 --> 02:29:27,970
Hold on a second.

4142
02:29:29,250 --> 02:29:31,510
Yes, I used to do for PC.

4143
02:29:31,870 --> 02:29:32,270
April Fools, yes.

4144
02:29:32,650 --> 02:29:35,170
For both Mac user and PC computing.

4145
02:29:35,830 --> 02:29:39,470
And I started doing this at InfoWorld early,

4146
02:29:39,860 --> 02:29:41,410
but I started doing it every year.

4147
02:29:41,490 --> 02:29:43,290
I would do an April Fools gag and

4148
02:29:43,290 --> 02:29:45,590
about three or four of them were classics

4149
02:29:45,590 --> 02:29:47,910
and got into various halls of fame.

4150
02:29:48,290 --> 02:29:48,430
Yes.

4151
02:29:48,790 --> 02:29:49,910
And this was one of them.

4152
02:29:50,050 --> 02:29:52,430
And it was, and here it is.

4153
02:29:52,530 --> 02:29:54,350
No drinking on the web as the internet

4154
02:29:54,350 --> 02:29:55,870
was just gaining popularity.

4155
02:29:56,090 --> 02:29:59,510
The April 1994 issue, where were you in

4156
02:29:59,510 --> 02:30:05,010
1994, of PC Computing ran a column by

4157
02:30:05,010 --> 02:30:05,630
John C.

4158
02:30:05,710 --> 02:30:09,030
Dvorak about a non-existent Senate bill designed

4159
02:30:09,030 --> 02:30:11,670
to prohibit anyone from using a public computer

4160
02:30:11,670 --> 02:30:14,350
network while the computer user is intoxicated.

4161
02:30:14,990 --> 02:30:17,670
Dvorak said some clueless senators thought the so

4162
02:30:17,670 --> 02:30:21,030
-called information superhighway was an actual road.

4163
02:30:21,830 --> 02:30:23,630
Did that work in 1994?

4164
02:30:24,210 --> 02:30:28,530
It worked to such an extreme that Senator

4165
02:30:28,530 --> 02:30:35,510
Pat Leahy got so much grief that I

4166
02:30:35,510 --> 02:30:37,330
got feedback from his office.

4167
02:30:37,890 --> 02:30:38,250
No.

4168
02:30:38,950 --> 02:30:39,310
Yeah.

4169
02:30:39,550 --> 02:30:39,910
Wow.

4170
02:30:41,170 --> 02:30:43,650
Because I said he was co-sponsor of

4171
02:30:43,650 --> 02:30:44,850
the bill or some dang thing.

4172
02:30:45,030 --> 02:30:46,550
Where they called you up and said, don't

4173
02:30:46,550 --> 02:30:48,250
do that, please, computer man.

4174
02:30:49,950 --> 02:30:51,270
Well, it was the way it was framed.

4175
02:30:51,350 --> 02:30:52,310
You have to read the whole column.

4176
02:30:52,390 --> 02:30:53,450
The way it was, I should try to

4177
02:30:53,450 --> 02:30:55,770
find it and then put it on one

4178
02:30:55,770 --> 02:30:56,350
of my columns.

4179
02:30:56,490 --> 02:30:57,190
It's in the closet.

4180
02:30:58,810 --> 02:30:59,530
On Substack.

4181
02:30:59,730 --> 02:31:01,330
But it was framed in such a way

4182
02:31:01,330 --> 02:31:03,010
that it made him look like an idiot.

4183
02:31:04,130 --> 02:31:05,110
Is he still with us?

4184
02:31:05,110 --> 02:31:06,330
And so it didn't take a lot.

4185
02:31:06,330 --> 02:31:09,650
It was not well-received by the government.

4186
02:31:09,950 --> 02:31:10,870
Is Leahy still around?

4187
02:31:10,950 --> 02:31:11,810
Is he still with us?

4188
02:31:12,430 --> 02:31:13,630
Yeah, I don't know.

4189
02:31:13,730 --> 02:31:15,650
He was the last term.

4190
02:31:15,710 --> 02:31:16,730
I don't know if he's still there.

4191
02:31:17,130 --> 02:31:19,070
I mean, his voice, he lost his voice.

4192
02:31:21,350 --> 02:31:30,710
So there was a little snafu in the

4193
02:31:30,710 --> 02:31:37,190
appointment in one of President Trump's appointees Weldon,

4194
02:31:37,350 --> 02:31:38,210
Weldon, Weldon.

4195
02:31:38,470 --> 02:31:40,670
Dr. Weldon was supposed to become the director

4196
02:31:40,670 --> 02:31:42,890
of the CDC.

4197
02:31:44,330 --> 02:31:46,750
And his nomination was pulled.

4198
02:31:48,070 --> 02:31:50,710
So because he, apparently he didn't have the

4199
02:31:50,710 --> 02:31:50,930
votes.

4200
02:31:50,990 --> 02:31:54,350
This is Mary Holland from the children's defense,

4201
02:31:54,790 --> 02:31:56,050
health defense thing.

4202
02:31:56,130 --> 02:31:58,790
That's the thing that Kennedy has nothing more

4203
02:31:58,790 --> 02:31:59,450
to do with.

4204
02:31:59,730 --> 02:32:01,270
And she explains what happened.

4205
02:32:01,670 --> 02:32:03,790
He was too outspoken on vaccines is what

4206
02:32:03,790 --> 02:32:05,430
it really looks like to me.

4207
02:32:06,050 --> 02:32:09,970
Which is, vaccines are the magic sauce that

4208
02:32:09,970 --> 02:32:12,030
keeps the chronic disease epidemic going.

4209
02:32:12,250 --> 02:32:14,590
And I think Dave Weldon understood that perfectly.

4210
02:32:14,850 --> 02:32:16,750
And my guess is there was some kind

4211
02:32:16,750 --> 02:32:19,310
of an alliance between Pharma and Senator Cassidy

4212
02:32:19,310 --> 02:32:21,750
and some of his compatriots in the Senate

4213
02:32:21,750 --> 02:32:23,510
to kill the nomination.

4214
02:32:23,770 --> 02:32:27,510
No real explanation at all why the Weldon

4215
02:32:27,510 --> 02:32:28,750
nomination was pulled.

4216
02:32:28,970 --> 02:32:31,850
But Senator Cassidy at the very beginning sort

4217
02:32:31,850 --> 02:32:34,670
of talked about distrust in health agencies and

4218
02:32:34,670 --> 02:32:37,970
the context of measles, which would seem to

4219
02:32:37,970 --> 02:32:39,870
be a lot of what was going on.

4220
02:32:40,050 --> 02:32:43,510
It was pretty clear that they didn't have

4221
02:32:43,510 --> 02:32:46,150
the votes for Weldon on the health committee.

4222
02:32:46,590 --> 02:32:48,970
And I can tell you that I and

4223
02:32:48,970 --> 02:32:51,330
many people who were there and on text

4224
02:32:51,330 --> 02:32:54,070
threads that were on are just tremendously disappointed.

4225
02:32:54,730 --> 02:32:58,430
Weldon was perfectly credentialed having been a member

4226
02:32:58,430 --> 02:33:00,970
of Congress and a physician and a Republican

4227
02:33:00,970 --> 02:33:02,750
to take that job.

4228
02:33:02,750 --> 02:33:04,190
And he was outspoken about vaccines.

4229
02:33:04,390 --> 02:33:06,750
He understands vaccines candidly better than any of

4230
02:33:06,750 --> 02:33:09,390
the other key appointments that Bobby was proposing.

4231
02:33:09,930 --> 02:33:13,350
According to, is it Senator Ron Johnson?

4232
02:33:13,510 --> 02:33:14,530
He's a Senator, isn't he?

4233
02:33:15,050 --> 02:33:15,310
Yeah.

4234
02:33:15,530 --> 02:33:15,770
Yeah.

4235
02:33:16,290 --> 02:33:17,990
He thinks it had something to do with

4236
02:33:17,990 --> 02:33:18,590
big Pharma.

4237
02:33:18,850 --> 02:33:20,170
Oh no, you don't say.

4238
02:33:20,450 --> 02:33:21,830
But again, the fact that they were able

4239
02:33:21,830 --> 02:33:25,690
to defeat the Weldon nomination, it's really tragedy

4240
02:33:25,690 --> 02:33:27,610
because I spoke with the doctor.

4241
02:33:28,130 --> 02:33:29,290
He's got a very open mind.

4242
02:33:29,370 --> 02:33:30,710
He's certainly not anti-vaccine.

4243
02:33:30,790 --> 02:33:32,110
Vaccines is patients, okay?

4244
02:33:32,110 --> 02:33:33,970
He just has some questions.

4245
02:33:34,070 --> 02:33:37,570
Like, you know, maybe just maybe 85 doses

4246
02:33:37,570 --> 02:33:40,230
on the childhood schedule, you know, vaccines given

4247
02:33:40,230 --> 02:33:40,610
in what?

4248
02:33:40,770 --> 02:33:43,270
Three to six different vaccines at the same

4249
02:33:43,270 --> 02:33:45,970
time to very young infants whose immune systems

4250
02:33:45,970 --> 02:33:46,790
are just developing.

4251
02:33:47,090 --> 02:33:47,590
What's wrong with that?

4252
02:33:47,610 --> 02:33:49,670
That might be a problem, but we can't

4253
02:33:49,670 --> 02:33:51,170
even ask the question.

4254
02:33:51,310 --> 02:33:54,050
So again, I give Donald Trump and Bobby

4255
02:33:54,050 --> 02:33:56,850
Kennedy all the credit for taking really a

4256
02:33:56,850 --> 02:33:59,810
giant leap forward in terms of addressing this

4257
02:33:59,810 --> 02:34:02,890
problem, but also demonstrating how we're gonna heal

4258
02:34:02,890 --> 02:34:04,290
and unify this very divided nation.

4259
02:34:04,770 --> 02:34:06,490
It seems to me like Dr. Weldon doesn't

4260
02:34:06,490 --> 02:34:08,250
even know exactly what happened when the White

4261
02:34:08,250 --> 02:34:09,230
House pulled this nomination.

4262
02:34:09,430 --> 02:34:12,130
He said sort of that big Pharma may

4263
02:34:12,130 --> 02:34:13,130
have had something to do with it.

4264
02:34:13,170 --> 02:34:15,210
He said it's the concern of many people

4265
02:34:15,210 --> 02:34:17,210
is that big Pharma quote was behind this,

4266
02:34:17,310 --> 02:34:19,430
which is probably true in a statement today.

4267
02:34:19,990 --> 02:34:21,790
Do you know if pressure from big Pharma

4268
02:34:21,790 --> 02:34:22,590
had anything to do with that?

4269
02:34:22,630 --> 02:34:24,310
No, but I think you can pretty well

4270
02:34:24,310 --> 02:34:25,170
assume that.

4271
02:34:26,470 --> 02:34:28,390
Again, they couldn't get by, they couldn't bring

4272
02:34:28,390 --> 02:34:30,210
down Bobby Kennedy because what he was doing

4273
02:34:30,210 --> 02:34:34,130
is so politically popular, completely non-partisan fashion.

4274
02:34:34,490 --> 02:34:37,630
So Republican senators couldn't vote against him, even

4275
02:34:37,630 --> 02:34:41,710
those that might've wanted to, but Pharma doesn't

4276
02:34:41,710 --> 02:34:43,170
go quiet in the night, so they got

4277
02:34:43,170 --> 02:34:43,610
their scalp.

4278
02:34:44,030 --> 02:34:44,850
They got their scalp.

4279
02:34:45,550 --> 02:34:46,890
It could have been a quid pro quo,

4280
02:34:47,150 --> 02:34:48,830
it could have been something else, it could

4281
02:34:48,830 --> 02:34:51,130
have been Pharma not involved, we don't know,

4282
02:34:51,230 --> 02:34:52,870
but we're never gonna find it.

4283
02:34:52,870 --> 02:34:53,490
Got an update.

4284
02:34:53,730 --> 02:34:54,330
They get another guy.

4285
02:34:54,530 --> 02:34:55,970
I got an update from one of our

4286
02:34:55,970 --> 02:34:56,310
producers.

4287
02:34:56,310 --> 02:34:57,810
We had the best producers in the universe,

4288
02:34:57,930 --> 02:35:01,010
of course, much better than those, gosh, producer

4289
02:35:01,010 --> 02:35:05,550
Scott, regarding your COVID insurance clip.

4290
02:35:07,210 --> 02:35:08,350
And if I recall- Oh yeah, yeah,

4291
02:35:08,410 --> 02:35:08,930
it'd be interesting.

4292
02:35:09,230 --> 02:35:12,610
If I recall, the life insurance company did

4293
02:35:12,610 --> 02:35:15,370
not wanna pay out because the person had

4294
02:35:15,370 --> 02:35:18,770
taken this vaccine voluntarily and therefore it was

4295
02:35:18,770 --> 02:35:20,670
considered suicide and we don't pay out on

4296
02:35:20,670 --> 02:35:21,090
suicide.

4297
02:35:21,310 --> 02:35:24,570
Am I, am I- More or less.

4298
02:35:24,670 --> 02:35:25,230
More or less, right.

4299
02:35:25,230 --> 02:35:26,210
Close enough.

4300
02:35:26,290 --> 02:35:28,950
Sir Nasty Nate here, I love our guys.

4301
02:35:29,490 --> 02:35:33,230
I'm a life, Sir Nasty Nate, he's a

4302
02:35:33,230 --> 02:35:35,170
life and health insurance agent.

4303
02:35:35,590 --> 02:35:37,710
The company he works for is Bankers Life,

4304
02:35:37,810 --> 02:35:39,130
Colonial Penn Life Insurance.

4305
02:35:39,810 --> 02:35:41,990
And he says the company has to pay

4306
02:35:41,990 --> 02:35:44,910
out after two years of having the insurance

4307
02:35:44,910 --> 02:35:45,690
for suicide.

4308
02:35:46,170 --> 02:35:48,090
So if you commit suicide, don't do it

4309
02:35:48,090 --> 02:35:50,030
during the first two years of your policy,

4310
02:35:50,350 --> 02:35:52,310
your beneficiary won't get the benefit.

4311
02:35:53,110 --> 02:35:55,270
Oh, that's interesting, I've never heard this.

4312
02:35:55,410 --> 02:35:57,670
Yeah, I got more people saying, that's bullcrap,

4313
02:35:57,750 --> 02:35:59,010
but this is actually- Well, no, it

4314
02:35:59,010 --> 02:36:00,490
wouldn't be bull, in the case of the

4315
02:36:00,490 --> 02:36:03,390
COVID shot, these people were dying within two

4316
02:36:03,390 --> 02:36:04,050
years anyway.

4317
02:36:04,370 --> 02:36:05,410
Exactly, exactly.

4318
02:36:07,210 --> 02:36:09,450
And it was claimed to be suicide.

4319
02:36:09,470 --> 02:36:11,490
And that's interesting, because I know someone who

4320
02:36:11,490 --> 02:36:16,010
lives in town whose husband committed suicide and

4321
02:36:16,010 --> 02:36:17,230
she got an insurance payout.

4322
02:36:17,310 --> 02:36:18,530
And I was like, that's interesting.

4323
02:36:19,290 --> 02:36:20,710
But it must've been after the two-year

4324
02:36:20,710 --> 02:36:21,090
period.

4325
02:36:21,810 --> 02:36:23,410
Yeah, it sounds like it.

4326
02:36:23,650 --> 02:36:27,350
And then bombshell, bombshell, bombshell intelligence.

4327
02:36:27,570 --> 02:36:29,910
Bombshell, everybody, it was just the hugest bombshell.

4328
02:36:30,250 --> 02:36:30,790
Bombshell.

4329
02:36:32,330 --> 02:36:35,210
Bombshell that COVID was lab made.

4330
02:36:36,530 --> 02:36:36,750
God.

4331
02:36:38,090 --> 02:36:41,250
This is a Trump administration was given bombshell

4332
02:36:41,250 --> 02:36:44,570
intelligence from an ally.

4333
02:36:44,750 --> 02:36:45,710
Well, who was the ally?

4334
02:36:46,030 --> 02:36:48,670
The ally was Germany, that's right.

4335
02:36:49,230 --> 02:36:52,450
Germany gave us this bombshell information.

4336
02:36:52,810 --> 02:36:53,950
Very keep up, dudes.

4337
02:36:55,290 --> 02:36:56,410
Well, on health.

4338
02:36:56,650 --> 02:36:57,010
Yes.

4339
02:36:57,610 --> 02:36:59,430
I got a couple of tips about seed

4340
02:36:59,430 --> 02:36:59,690
oil.

4341
02:37:00,490 --> 02:37:01,770
It's no good, I hear.

4342
02:37:02,590 --> 02:37:05,710
Well, this is the thing, it's questionable whether

4343
02:37:05,710 --> 02:37:08,250
it's good or not to me, because I

4344
02:37:08,250 --> 02:37:10,690
even, in fact, I was reading about pumpkin

4345
02:37:10,690 --> 02:37:13,330
seed oil, which is good for prostate health,

4346
02:37:13,410 --> 02:37:14,450
but it's a seed oil.

4347
02:37:15,030 --> 02:37:17,890
And indeed, the real controversy is over the

4348
02:37:17,890 --> 02:37:20,090
linoleic acids that are in seed oil, and

4349
02:37:20,090 --> 02:37:23,070
you read, I'm telling you, you can do

4350
02:37:23,070 --> 02:37:24,230
a research on this yourself.

4351
02:37:24,370 --> 02:37:26,610
You can read about, oh, good for the

4352
02:37:26,610 --> 02:37:26,910
heart.

4353
02:37:27,650 --> 02:37:29,330
Oh, bad for the heart.

4354
02:37:30,010 --> 02:37:31,770
Good for the heart, bad for the heart,

4355
02:37:31,870 --> 02:37:32,390
good for the heart.

4356
02:37:32,670 --> 02:37:34,070
I mean, this is one of these things

4357
02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:36,450
that it's like, is there agreement on any

4358
02:37:36,450 --> 02:37:37,050
of this stuff?

4359
02:37:37,130 --> 02:37:40,110
But if you're anti-seed oil, there's agreement,

4360
02:37:40,230 --> 02:37:41,010
yeah, it's bad for you.

4361
02:37:41,350 --> 02:37:43,950
But if you're not, then it's great, because

4362
02:37:43,950 --> 02:37:46,430
it's low poly, it's polyunsaturated, blah, blah, blah.

4363
02:37:46,490 --> 02:37:49,010
The whole thing is ridiculous, but there's a

4364
02:37:49,010 --> 02:37:50,990
report on it I picked up, and I

4365
02:37:50,990 --> 02:37:53,450
thought it was at least educational.

4366
02:37:53,870 --> 02:37:56,490
Steak and Shake says it has recently switched

4367
02:37:56,490 --> 02:37:59,630
from frying with seed oil to beef tallow.

4368
02:38:00,010 --> 02:38:02,290
It credits U.S. Health Secretary Robert F.

4369
02:38:02,410 --> 02:38:03,730
Kennedy Jr. for the change.

4370
02:38:03,850 --> 02:38:06,870
He says using so-called traditional ingredients will

4371
02:38:06,870 --> 02:38:08,190
make America healthier.

4372
02:38:08,690 --> 02:38:12,010
But as Sarah Bowden reports, traditional doesn't always

4373
02:38:12,010 --> 02:38:12,950
mean nutritious.

4374
02:38:12,950 --> 02:38:16,030
Wait a minute, so RFK Jr. comes out

4375
02:38:16,030 --> 02:38:18,050
and says, these seed oils will kill you,

4376
02:38:18,150 --> 02:38:19,510
and then all of a sudden there's a

4377
02:38:19,510 --> 02:38:21,590
report about seed oil that it won't kill

4378
02:38:21,590 --> 02:38:21,770
you?

4379
02:38:22,050 --> 02:38:23,790
Hmm, well, that's interesting.

4380
02:38:24,230 --> 02:38:26,970
For decades, Americans have been warned against fast

4381
02:38:26,970 --> 02:38:27,270
food.

4382
02:38:27,810 --> 02:38:30,350
So it was striking to see the country's

4383
02:38:30,350 --> 02:38:32,910
top public health officials sit down to a

4384
02:38:32,910 --> 02:38:34,910
burger and fries on Fox News.

4385
02:38:35,510 --> 02:38:38,170
Kennedy was joined by host Sean Hannity, who

4386
02:38:38,170 --> 02:38:38,970
ordered a Coke.

4387
02:38:39,630 --> 02:38:42,450
RFK wants more restaurants to follow Steak and

4388
02:38:42,450 --> 02:38:45,490
Shake's lead and stop using seed oils, which

4389
02:38:45,490 --> 02:38:48,070
he claims are fueling the obesity epidemic.

4390
02:38:48,230 --> 02:38:51,670
We are poisoning ourselves, and it's coming from

4391
02:38:51,670 --> 02:38:53,710
principally these ultra-processed foods.

4392
02:38:54,010 --> 02:38:56,790
But researchers say seed oils aren't the real

4393
02:38:56,790 --> 02:38:57,330
problem.

4394
02:38:57,630 --> 02:38:58,650
It's French fries.

4395
02:38:58,950 --> 02:39:00,810
For God's sake, it's French fries.

4396
02:39:01,330 --> 02:39:04,050
Ha, ha, ha, oh, it's not the seed

4397
02:39:04,050 --> 02:39:05,930
oils, it's the French fries that are killing

4398
02:39:05,930 --> 02:39:06,150
you.

4399
02:39:06,710 --> 02:39:09,310
So now hearing that, I said, no, this

4400
02:39:09,310 --> 02:39:10,530
is great.

4401
02:39:10,530 --> 02:39:13,310
I mean, this guy is French fries.

4402
02:39:13,390 --> 02:39:15,030
Just stop eating French fries, we'll all be

4403
02:39:15,030 --> 02:39:15,510
fine.

4404
02:39:15,950 --> 02:39:18,710
Christopher Gardner is a nutrition scientist at Stanford

4405
02:39:18,710 --> 02:39:19,450
University.

4406
02:39:19,730 --> 02:39:23,230
People should eat fewer French fries, whatever they're

4407
02:39:23,230 --> 02:39:24,010
deep fried in.

4408
02:39:24,250 --> 02:39:26,670
Which is why Gardner is concerned that Kennedy

4409
02:39:26,670 --> 02:39:29,190
went to a fast food restaurant on national

4410
02:39:29,190 --> 02:39:29,750
television.

4411
02:39:30,130 --> 02:39:33,470
The secretary has a big platform, and fast

4412
02:39:33,470 --> 02:39:36,550
food is high in saturated fat, which leads

4413
02:39:36,550 --> 02:39:39,310
to more clogged arteries and heart attacks.

4414
02:39:39,310 --> 02:39:41,410
And if people are eating more hamburgers and

4415
02:39:41,410 --> 02:39:43,710
more French fries, even though they're now in

4416
02:39:43,710 --> 02:39:46,270
tallow instead of seed oil, more people are

4417
02:39:46,270 --> 02:39:46,870
gonna die.

4418
02:39:46,970 --> 02:39:48,190
We're all gonna die!

4419
02:39:48,790 --> 02:39:51,730
Dr. Daryush Mozaffarian is a cardiologist at Tufts

4420
02:39:51,730 --> 02:39:52,250
University.

4421
02:39:52,650 --> 02:39:55,510
He agrees with Kennedy that processed foods are

4422
02:39:55,510 --> 02:39:58,590
driving up rates of heart disease, diabetes, and

4423
02:39:58,590 --> 02:39:59,770
other chronic illnesses.

4424
02:40:00,430 --> 02:40:03,450
But Mozaffarian says the real villains are too

4425
02:40:03,450 --> 02:40:06,150
many refined grains, starches, sugars.

4426
02:40:06,650 --> 02:40:09,270
An overload of salt and other preservatives, hundreds

4427
02:40:09,270 --> 02:40:11,670
of chemical additives, contaminants from packaging.

4428
02:40:11,930 --> 02:40:13,730
And while seed oils are found in processed

4429
02:40:13,730 --> 02:40:16,690
foods, he says it's guilt by association.

4430
02:40:17,190 --> 02:40:19,170
Seed oils are actually the bright spot.

4431
02:40:19,290 --> 02:40:23,590
Seed oils are healthy fats, healthy monounsaturated, polyunsaturated

4432
02:40:23,590 --> 02:40:25,790
fats that are really good for our bodies.

4433
02:40:26,090 --> 02:40:29,570
Mozaffarian is glad Kennedy's concerned about ultra-processed

4434
02:40:29,570 --> 02:40:29,870
foods.

4435
02:40:30,410 --> 02:40:32,670
That's why he'd like the secretary to focus

4436
02:40:32,670 --> 02:40:35,970
on helping low-income Americans afford fresh groceries

4437
02:40:35,970 --> 02:40:37,850
that are rich in fiber and nutrients.

4438
02:40:38,410 --> 02:40:40,650
NPR reached out to Kennedy's team for comment,

4439
02:40:40,810 --> 02:40:41,770
but did not hear back.

4440
02:40:42,150 --> 02:40:44,250
We also reached out to Steak and Shake.

4441
02:40:44,810 --> 02:40:48,090
It turns out its food manufacturers still use

4442
02:40:48,090 --> 02:40:50,490
seed oil to prepare the food before it's

4443
02:40:50,490 --> 02:40:51,950
frozen and shipped to stores.

4444
02:40:52,130 --> 02:40:52,990
Oh, no!

4445
02:40:54,010 --> 02:40:56,890
There goes my shake and bake snack or

4446
02:40:56,890 --> 02:40:57,990
whatever that place is called.

4447
02:40:58,410 --> 02:41:00,790
This report is just the worst.

4448
02:41:01,050 --> 02:41:03,170
You know, Bobby came out.

4449
02:41:03,430 --> 02:41:04,690
I call him Bobby now.

4450
02:41:05,190 --> 02:41:06,130
Bobby came- Bobby.

4451
02:41:06,130 --> 02:41:08,130
He came out and he said, you know,

4452
02:41:08,190 --> 02:41:10,570
grass, we're changing grass, which is the acronym

4453
02:41:10,570 --> 02:41:13,610
generally regarded as safe, which initially was only

4454
02:41:13,610 --> 02:41:15,770
for baking soda, I think, and, you know,

4455
02:41:15,810 --> 02:41:17,230
like salt maybe.

4456
02:41:18,230 --> 02:41:20,470
And now it's just been used as everything.

4457
02:41:20,570 --> 02:41:22,130
Oh, it's all generally regarded as safe and

4458
02:41:22,130 --> 02:41:23,110
he's going to change that.

4459
02:41:23,350 --> 02:41:25,210
This is going to change the face of

4460
02:41:25,210 --> 02:41:26,670
- Well, you know, I talked about this

4461
02:41:26,670 --> 02:41:28,370
on the show years ago about the Merck

4462
02:41:28,370 --> 02:41:30,270
Index, which everyone should have a copy of.

4463
02:41:30,430 --> 02:41:31,950
Yeah, mine is very outdated.

4464
02:41:32,230 --> 02:41:33,510
I have one, but I think it's-

4465
02:41:33,510 --> 02:41:34,290
They're all outdated.

4466
02:41:34,490 --> 02:41:35,730
I don't think they brought this thing out

4467
02:41:35,730 --> 02:41:36,110
for years.

4468
02:41:36,110 --> 02:41:38,810
It doesn't matter because the information is generally

4469
02:41:38,810 --> 02:41:44,810
not outdated, but grass is used effusively within

4470
02:41:44,810 --> 02:41:45,910
the Merck Index.

4471
02:41:46,030 --> 02:41:48,290
Everything you look it up, grass, grass, grass,

4472
02:41:48,390 --> 02:41:49,510
you see it's G-R-A-S, all

4473
02:41:49,510 --> 02:41:53,670
caps, is commonly used to describe various chemicals

4474
02:41:53,670 --> 02:41:55,490
and poisons and other things.

4475
02:41:56,490 --> 02:41:59,790
Mainstream media is generally regarded as safe, but

4476
02:41:59,790 --> 02:42:00,910
we're all going to die.

4477
02:42:02,770 --> 02:42:03,890
Yeah, it's crazy.

4478
02:42:04,170 --> 02:42:05,490
I need to do a little bit on

4479
02:42:05,490 --> 02:42:06,930
bird flu because I'm going to end it

4480
02:42:06,930 --> 02:42:09,970
up with McCullough, the latest from McCullough, which

4481
02:42:09,970 --> 02:42:10,590
is interesting.

4482
02:42:10,950 --> 02:42:12,270
But first, we need to tug at the

4483
02:42:12,270 --> 02:42:14,510
heartstrings because it's killing a kitten.

4484
02:42:15,070 --> 02:42:17,070
A warning is going out about raw pet

4485
02:42:17,070 --> 02:42:19,630
food now that new cases of bird flu

4486
02:42:19,630 --> 02:42:21,530
are being reported in two New York City

4487
02:42:21,530 --> 02:42:23,410
cats and one of the pets.

4488
02:42:23,490 --> 02:42:24,990
A little kitten died from the infection.

4489
02:42:25,210 --> 02:42:27,550
The virus has already spread like wildfire in

4490
02:42:27,550 --> 02:42:27,810
chickens.

4491
02:42:28,310 --> 02:42:30,270
The city is investigating the outbreak and warning

4492
02:42:30,270 --> 02:42:32,970
pet owners to avoid using raw foods and

4493
02:42:32,970 --> 02:42:33,350
milk.

4494
02:42:33,350 --> 02:42:35,710
A vet says the sick kitten was fed

4495
02:42:35,710 --> 02:42:37,190
savage cat food.

4496
02:42:37,410 --> 02:42:39,370
The kitten had to be euthanized.

4497
02:42:39,950 --> 02:42:41,650
So first they said the cat died, but

4498
02:42:41,650 --> 02:42:43,370
then basically they killed the kitten.

4499
02:42:43,490 --> 02:42:44,830
That's two different things.

4500
02:42:44,990 --> 02:42:47,610
It's clearly shown that raw- Well, hold

4501
02:42:47,610 --> 02:42:48,250
on a second.

4502
02:42:49,470 --> 02:42:51,350
That is two different things.

4503
02:42:51,790 --> 02:42:55,030
They fed the cat some, this is bull.

4504
02:42:55,770 --> 02:42:57,610
Yeah, they fed the cat some raw cat

4505
02:42:57,610 --> 02:42:59,330
food and then it got sick.

4506
02:42:59,350 --> 02:43:01,670
Which is what you do if you can,

4507
02:43:01,710 --> 02:43:02,650
if you can get raw food.

4508
02:43:02,650 --> 02:43:04,970
Jay used to work at a raw pet

4509
02:43:04,970 --> 02:43:06,210
food company in Oakland.

4510
02:43:08,310 --> 02:43:09,930
Very cool operation.

4511
02:43:10,430 --> 02:43:13,230
All the hoity-toities in Piedmont and other

4512
02:43:13,230 --> 02:43:15,250
areas around the Bay Area would use this

4513
02:43:15,250 --> 02:43:16,890
kind of cat food because the cats love

4514
02:43:16,890 --> 02:43:17,030
it.

4515
02:43:19,890 --> 02:43:22,850
So then the kitten got sick and then

4516
02:43:22,850 --> 02:43:24,150
they euthanized it.

4517
02:43:24,230 --> 02:43:25,430
They chopped its head off.

4518
02:43:25,470 --> 02:43:27,010
The kitten had to be euthanized.

4519
02:43:27,110 --> 02:43:27,930
And her head is gone.

4520
02:43:28,250 --> 02:43:32,210
It's clearly shown that a raw chicken can,

4521
02:43:32,750 --> 02:43:35,310
if it's infected with avian flu, which unfortunately

4522
02:43:35,310 --> 02:43:38,390
it is, some of it is, can make

4523
02:43:38,390 --> 02:43:40,490
cats very sick with avian flu.

4524
02:43:40,750 --> 02:43:41,790
And here comes the brand.

4525
02:43:42,410 --> 02:43:45,130
Savage Cat Brand Food issued a statement saying

4526
02:43:45,130 --> 02:43:47,430
they're incredibly saddened to hear that that kitten

4527
02:43:47,430 --> 02:43:48,510
has passed.

4528
02:43:48,610 --> 02:43:50,590
They are working with the FDA and gathering

4529
02:43:50,590 --> 02:43:51,190
information.

4530
02:43:51,430 --> 02:43:53,350
Died, euthanized, has passed.

4531
02:43:53,670 --> 02:43:53,950
Okay.

4532
02:43:54,630 --> 02:43:56,810
But CBS is not letting up on the

4533
02:43:56,810 --> 02:43:58,250
bird flu in cows.

4534
02:43:58,570 --> 02:44:00,110
It's killing the cows.

4535
02:44:00,110 --> 02:44:02,450
John LePoup, the doctor, comes in to help.

4536
02:44:02,650 --> 02:44:05,930
Texas and New Mexico today reported 38 more

4537
02:44:05,930 --> 02:44:06,890
measles cases.

4538
02:44:06,950 --> 02:44:07,210
Oh no!

4539
02:44:07,430 --> 02:44:09,830
That brings the nationwide total this year to

4540
02:44:09,830 --> 02:44:12,810
more than 300, which is already more than

4541
02:44:12,810 --> 02:44:14,770
the number for all of last year.

4542
02:44:14,850 --> 02:44:16,970
I don't know why they have to start

4543
02:44:16,970 --> 02:44:17,910
it off with measles.

4544
02:44:18,030 --> 02:44:19,910
I'm sure that's some kind of neuro-linguistic

4545
02:44:19,910 --> 02:44:20,490
programming.

4546
02:44:20,730 --> 02:44:21,930
I'm noticing this too.

4547
02:44:22,130 --> 02:44:25,190
I pointed out some other clips, usually NTD

4548
02:44:25,190 --> 02:44:27,230
does it a lot, where they bring in

4549
02:44:27,230 --> 02:44:29,510
one topic to get you kind of jacked

4550
02:44:29,510 --> 02:44:32,590
up about something, and then they slide into

4551
02:44:32,590 --> 02:44:34,390
what they really want to talk about.

4552
02:44:34,570 --> 02:44:36,530
I find it's got to be NLP of

4553
02:44:36,530 --> 02:44:36,910
some sort.

4554
02:44:36,930 --> 02:44:38,190
It's exactly what's happening here.

4555
02:44:38,290 --> 02:44:40,430
CDC also reports that in the past year,

4556
02:44:40,550 --> 02:44:42,870
there have been 70 cases of bird flu.

4557
02:44:42,970 --> 02:44:43,350
Bird flu!

4558
02:44:43,370 --> 02:44:44,110
And one death.

4559
02:44:44,370 --> 02:44:44,550
Death!

4560
02:44:44,570 --> 02:44:46,690
On the farm, it has been devastating, not

4561
02:44:46,690 --> 02:44:48,430
only for poultry, but cows.

4562
02:44:48,610 --> 02:44:49,010
Cows!

4563
02:44:49,110 --> 02:44:50,070
Here's Dr. John LePoup.

4564
02:44:50,270 --> 02:44:50,970
Hello, doctor.

4565
02:44:51,730 --> 02:44:55,150
Tyler Ribeiro, a fourth generation dairy farmer, woke

4566
02:44:55,150 --> 02:44:57,350
up to a world turned upside down.

4567
02:44:57,910 --> 02:44:59,410
I went to bed at 11 o'clock

4568
02:44:59,410 --> 02:45:02,290
at night, and by the morning, we were

4569
02:45:02,290 --> 02:45:03,070
in the middle of it.

4570
02:45:03,750 --> 02:45:06,210
In just two weeks last September, bird flu

4571
02:45:06,210 --> 02:45:08,710
ripped through the fourth generation farmer's herd of

4572
02:45:08,710 --> 02:45:10,030
1,500 cows.

4573
02:45:10,610 --> 02:45:11,510
Dozens died.

4574
02:45:11,810 --> 02:45:12,590
They were sick.

4575
02:45:12,750 --> 02:45:13,490
Their ears were down.

4576
02:45:13,590 --> 02:45:14,470
They weren't hungry.

4577
02:45:14,970 --> 02:45:16,510
And I was up against a force that

4578
02:45:16,510 --> 02:45:18,590
I really didn't know how to fight.

4579
02:45:18,990 --> 02:45:20,970
By the way, I'm not so sure the

4580
02:45:20,970 --> 02:45:23,590
cows died from the bird flu.

4581
02:45:23,690 --> 02:45:24,910
They might have been sick.

4582
02:45:25,070 --> 02:45:26,890
Most of the cows, I've talked to the

4583
02:45:26,890 --> 02:45:28,650
ranchers, yeah, they get bird flu, they get

4584
02:45:28,650 --> 02:45:29,490
sick, they get better.

4585
02:45:29,890 --> 02:45:31,770
I wonder if they were euthanized.

4586
02:45:32,170 --> 02:45:34,830
California has more than 1,100 dairy farms.

4587
02:45:35,470 --> 02:45:37,890
Two-thirds experienced an outbreak caused by a

4588
02:45:37,890 --> 02:45:40,930
deadly virus that, for the first time, spread

4589
02:45:40,930 --> 02:45:43,770
from poultry and wild birds to cows, then

4590
02:45:43,770 --> 02:45:44,650
from cow to cow.

4591
02:45:45,230 --> 02:45:48,130
A leading suspect is contaminated milking machines.

4592
02:45:49,090 --> 02:45:52,150
So a deadly virus for the first time.

4593
02:45:52,210 --> 02:45:54,650
We've heard about the sick cows from bird

4594
02:45:54,650 --> 02:45:55,590
flu for months.

4595
02:45:56,190 --> 02:45:58,170
But OK, so I don't know.

4596
02:45:58,780 --> 02:46:00,070
It's all just...

4597
02:46:00,070 --> 02:46:01,730
What's the milking machine doing?

4598
02:46:01,910 --> 02:46:02,770
Well, let's find out.

4599
02:46:02,850 --> 02:46:03,670
I love these animals.

4600
02:46:04,110 --> 02:46:06,370
Dr. Michael Payne is a veterinarian at the

4601
02:46:06,370 --> 02:46:08,190
University of California, Davis.

4602
02:46:08,370 --> 02:46:12,530
The spillover of avian influenza, bird flu into

4603
02:46:12,530 --> 02:46:14,490
cattle has never occurred before.

4604
02:46:14,650 --> 02:46:15,650
It's a new disease.

4605
02:46:16,950 --> 02:46:20,230
While human infections are rare, 38 people in

4606
02:46:20,230 --> 02:46:22,610
California, nearly all of them work with cattle,

4607
02:46:23,030 --> 02:46:25,150
have been diagnosed with mild bird flu.

4608
02:46:25,710 --> 02:46:27,990
But now a different strain that has caused

4609
02:46:27,990 --> 02:46:30,690
more severe illness is circulating widely in North

4610
02:46:30,690 --> 02:46:33,950
American wild birds and spilling over into poultry.

4611
02:46:34,550 --> 02:46:35,930
Some scientists have said to me they are

4612
02:46:35,930 --> 02:46:38,150
very concerned that we're getting closer and closer

4613
02:46:38,150 --> 02:46:40,390
to that virus mutating to a point where

4614
02:46:40,390 --> 02:46:42,770
it could spread more easily from human to

4615
02:46:42,770 --> 02:46:43,010
human.

4616
02:46:43,990 --> 02:46:47,510
Understandably, our public health colleagues are concerned additional

4617
02:46:47,510 --> 02:46:49,850
mutations will occur in this version of the

4618
02:46:49,850 --> 02:46:51,490
virus or other versions of the virus that

4619
02:46:51,490 --> 02:46:54,090
will be easily transmitted from one person to

4620
02:46:54,090 --> 02:46:54,310
another.

4621
02:46:54,830 --> 02:46:56,130
So I have bad news.

4622
02:46:56,470 --> 02:46:59,750
Dr. McCullough was hanging out with Dell Big

4623
02:46:59,750 --> 02:47:01,410
Tree or as Tina calls him, Big Dell

4624
02:47:01,410 --> 02:47:01,690
Tree.

4625
02:47:01,850 --> 02:47:02,730
I don't know why she does it.

4626
02:47:03,570 --> 02:47:06,090
And yeah, it turns out that this is

4627
02:47:06,090 --> 02:47:07,210
actually happening.

4628
02:47:07,570 --> 02:47:10,990
And surprise, it was created in a lab.

4629
02:47:11,130 --> 02:47:13,790
Our research at McCullough Foundation and Nick Kulsher,

4630
02:47:14,030 --> 02:47:16,930
the lead, this strain of bird flu is

4631
02:47:16,930 --> 02:47:17,270
different.

4632
02:47:17,730 --> 02:47:20,370
This looks like it has actually come from

4633
02:47:20,370 --> 02:47:24,990
serial passage research done at the USDA Poultry

4634
02:47:24,990 --> 02:47:27,870
Research Laboratory in Athens, Georgia.

4635
02:47:28,210 --> 02:47:31,110
Serial passage is when there's a blend of

4636
02:47:31,110 --> 02:47:34,010
viral strains that's intentionally put, in this case,

4637
02:47:34,090 --> 02:47:34,930
in a mallard duck.

4638
02:47:35,130 --> 02:47:37,550
They were trying to see which strain would

4639
02:47:37,550 --> 02:47:39,170
pass to the next mallard duck.

4640
02:47:39,730 --> 02:47:42,390
And the mallard ducks are studied because their

4641
02:47:42,390 --> 02:47:45,850
gullet is where the virus attaches, but it

4642
02:47:45,850 --> 02:47:46,970
doesn't go into the lungs.

4643
02:47:47,670 --> 02:47:53,350
And indeed, they found clade 23446 that looked

4644
02:47:53,350 --> 02:47:54,350
like it transmitted.

4645
02:47:54,730 --> 02:47:57,390
And sure enough, that's where the first cases

4646
02:47:57,390 --> 02:47:59,190
were around Athens, Georgia.

4647
02:47:59,390 --> 02:48:02,710
Now, the unique aspect to this clade is

4648
02:48:02,710 --> 02:48:05,170
that it was very mild in the mallard

4649
02:48:05,170 --> 02:48:05,490
ducks.

4650
02:48:05,570 --> 02:48:07,710
They could spread it all over another migratory

4651
02:48:07,710 --> 02:48:08,290
waterfowl.

4652
02:48:08,490 --> 02:48:10,170
It quickly spread into mammals.

4653
02:48:10,350 --> 02:48:12,570
We're now up to about 40 different species

4654
02:48:12,570 --> 02:48:13,450
of mammals.

4655
02:48:14,570 --> 02:48:18,230
And so what the USDA and other public

4656
02:48:18,230 --> 02:48:21,170
health officials have done over the last several

4657
02:48:21,170 --> 02:48:23,690
decades is what's called biosecurity.

4658
02:48:24,230 --> 02:48:27,290
So biosecurity would be this idea that, well,

4659
02:48:27,710 --> 02:48:30,070
if one chicken has bird flu, if we

4660
02:48:30,070 --> 02:48:32,850
sterilize the whole farm, they won't get it

4661
02:48:32,850 --> 02:48:33,150
again.

4662
02:48:35,800 --> 02:48:40,720
Again, these ghouls, these ghouls experimenting with nature,

4663
02:48:41,360 --> 02:48:42,520
with God's creation.

4664
02:48:43,000 --> 02:48:45,020
And it turns out that this is peer

4665
02:48:45,020 --> 02:48:46,240
-reviewed and it's real.

4666
02:48:46,540 --> 02:48:49,180
You're essentially saying that this is a lab

4667
02:48:49,180 --> 02:48:52,540
-grown clade, that this was something made in

4668
02:48:52,540 --> 02:48:54,660
a lab, that it's, I mean, are we

4669
02:48:54,660 --> 02:48:56,780
talking about a lab leak again when we're

4670
02:48:56,780 --> 02:48:58,220
talking about bird flu right now?

4671
02:48:58,620 --> 02:49:01,380
Yeah, we're so sure that we've published this

4672
02:49:01,380 --> 02:49:04,660
in a peer-reviewed paper titled The Proximal

4673
02:49:04,660 --> 02:49:08,840
Origins of Clade 23446 Avian Influenza.

4674
02:49:09,020 --> 02:49:10,840
It was published in the peer-reviewed journal

4675
02:49:10,840 --> 02:49:13,080
Poultry and Wildlife Sciences.

4676
02:49:13,460 --> 02:49:15,820
And it hasn't been disputed by any of

4677
02:49:15,820 --> 02:49:17,420
the public health officials.

4678
02:49:17,580 --> 02:49:20,340
We cite the USDA research, research done by

4679
02:49:20,340 --> 02:49:23,460
Dr. Karakawa at University of Wisconsin School of

4680
02:49:23,460 --> 02:49:25,960
Veterinary Medicine and Dr. Ron Fouchier at Erasmus.

4681
02:49:26,140 --> 02:49:28,720
So yeah, it looks like this, mankind brought

4682
02:49:28,720 --> 02:49:29,360
this on.

4683
02:49:29,540 --> 02:49:32,960
Now, the twist that we've seen is the

4684
02:49:32,960 --> 02:49:35,560
major strain of this clade, the clade is

4685
02:49:35,560 --> 02:49:36,540
the original source.

4686
02:49:37,080 --> 02:49:39,240
This restrain that was so mild that was

4687
02:49:39,240 --> 02:49:42,140
just causing pink eye in humans, in mild

4688
02:49:42,140 --> 02:49:46,320
cases in animals was B3.13. Now we've

4689
02:49:46,320 --> 02:49:49,760
seen the emergence of D1.1 and it's

4690
02:49:49,760 --> 02:49:51,380
a totally different ballgame.

4691
02:49:51,380 --> 02:49:54,640
There's a teenager in British Columbia who gets

4692
02:49:54,640 --> 02:49:57,800
D1.1. She gets severe human bird flu,

4693
02:49:57,900 --> 02:50:00,140
ends up on the ventilator, needs ECMO for

4694
02:50:00,140 --> 02:50:01,320
life support.

4695
02:50:01,580 --> 02:50:02,860
Thankfully, she survives.

4696
02:50:03,100 --> 02:50:05,040
A man down in Louisiana gets it.

4697
02:50:05,240 --> 02:50:05,820
He dies.

4698
02:50:05,980 --> 02:50:07,380
He had some birds in his backyard.

4699
02:50:08,160 --> 02:50:11,180
And now a toddler in Cambodia has died.

4700
02:50:11,880 --> 02:50:13,820
It is a different form of what we

4701
02:50:13,820 --> 02:50:15,320
call genetic reassortment.

4702
02:50:16,000 --> 02:50:18,480
And now what I've concluded is, you know,

4703
02:50:18,520 --> 02:50:22,100
this culling has caused this outbreak to last

4704
02:50:22,100 --> 02:50:24,520
so long because of virgin flock after virgin

4705
02:50:24,520 --> 02:50:24,840
flock.

4706
02:50:25,140 --> 02:50:28,140
Now the virus has had enough opportunity to

4707
02:50:28,140 --> 02:50:29,560
reassort and mutate.

4708
02:50:29,840 --> 02:50:31,420
And I think it's taken a turn for

4709
02:50:31,420 --> 02:50:31,860
the worse.

4710
02:50:32,480 --> 02:50:33,500
It's almost April.

4711
02:50:34,180 --> 02:50:35,760
Time to flatten the curve.

4712
02:50:38,100 --> 02:50:39,340
Timing is perfect.

4713
02:50:40,400 --> 02:50:41,760
It's unbelievable.

4714
02:50:44,550 --> 02:50:48,410
Well, with the initial bird flu in some

4715
02:50:48,410 --> 02:50:51,290
years back, I noticed that there was a

4716
02:50:54,370 --> 02:50:56,390
the prophylactic was discussed.

4717
02:50:57,230 --> 02:51:00,510
And it turns out to be relenza, which

4718
02:51:00,510 --> 02:51:02,170
is the Tamiflu competitor.

4719
02:51:02,550 --> 02:51:02,870
Oh, really?

4720
02:51:03,790 --> 02:51:06,750
Relenza is the Tamiflu.

4721
02:51:07,310 --> 02:51:08,750
It's not cheap, by the way.

4722
02:51:08,810 --> 02:51:10,110
It's 100 bucks a prescription.

4723
02:51:10,750 --> 02:51:11,430
I have a few.

4724
02:51:11,750 --> 02:51:12,930
I always keep backed up.

4725
02:51:13,210 --> 02:51:15,190
Now, but you take it when you feel

4726
02:51:15,190 --> 02:51:16,570
the onset or you take it?

4727
02:51:16,930 --> 02:51:19,170
Yeah, it's just the same as Tamiflu.

4728
02:51:19,430 --> 02:51:21,070
Only you breathe it in.

4729
02:51:21,150 --> 02:51:22,010
It's a powder.

4730
02:51:22,810 --> 02:51:25,050
And it takes a little getting used to

4731
02:51:25,050 --> 02:51:26,870
how to use it with a straw.

4732
02:51:27,550 --> 02:51:29,370
No, you breathe through your mouth.

4733
02:51:30,550 --> 02:51:32,210
It's a funny device you have.

4734
02:51:32,330 --> 02:51:35,210
And you put it's got a little thing.

4735
02:51:35,290 --> 02:51:37,770
You pop the pop the capsule and it

4736
02:51:37,770 --> 02:51:40,290
releases the powder and you breathe the powder

4737
02:51:40,290 --> 02:51:41,810
in through into the lungs.

4738
02:51:43,910 --> 02:51:45,230
And that's how it works.

4739
02:51:45,310 --> 02:51:46,710
It's very inconvenient to use.

4740
02:51:46,830 --> 02:51:49,150
And it's not very popular, but it's very

4741
02:51:49,150 --> 02:51:49,730
effective.

4742
02:51:50,610 --> 02:51:53,630
It is, I think, is slightly more effective

4743
02:51:53,630 --> 02:51:56,410
than Tamiflu, because Tamiflu is you when you

4744
02:51:56,410 --> 02:52:00,210
take it, it's a whole body phenomenon, whereas

4745
02:52:00,210 --> 02:52:02,830
the Relenza goes right to the lungs, which

4746
02:52:02,830 --> 02:52:05,250
is where the flu or any of these

4747
02:52:05,250 --> 02:52:08,630
influenza type diseases, that's where they reproduce.

4748
02:52:08,930 --> 02:52:10,090
It just goes right after him.

4749
02:52:10,230 --> 02:52:11,390
It's a very good product.

4750
02:52:12,910 --> 02:52:14,670
So we should all get some Relenza.

4751
02:52:14,830 --> 02:52:15,490
That's what you're saying.

4752
02:52:15,510 --> 02:52:16,290
I'm not a doctor.

4753
02:52:18,450 --> 02:52:20,750
Well, my ivermectin, is that not going to

4754
02:52:20,750 --> 02:52:21,150
help me?

4755
02:52:22,390 --> 02:52:23,330
Probably not.

4756
02:52:24,290 --> 02:52:25,790
It would help me get rid of worms.

4757
02:52:27,570 --> 02:52:30,490
Hey, final clip for me is yet more

4758
02:52:30,490 --> 02:52:31,110
disappointment.

4759
02:52:31,710 --> 02:52:34,610
Pam Bondi, Merle Haggard in a wig was

4760
02:52:34,610 --> 02:52:36,710
on with the money, honey, Maria Bartiromo.

4761
02:52:37,510 --> 02:52:39,370
And of course, the question came up about

4762
02:52:39,370 --> 02:52:42,390
the all the files we were going to

4763
02:52:42,390 --> 02:52:45,150
get all the information it was all coming

4764
02:52:45,150 --> 02:52:45,350
out.

4765
02:52:45,350 --> 02:52:47,710
I heard this is good take on something

4766
02:52:47,710 --> 02:52:49,530
else, which a lot of people were emailing

4767
02:52:49,530 --> 02:52:51,490
me about and talking to me about when

4768
02:52:51,490 --> 02:52:53,110
they heard that you were coming on the

4769
02:52:53,110 --> 02:52:53,470
show.

4770
02:52:53,950 --> 02:52:56,790
The MAGA group is mad that we don't

4771
02:52:56,790 --> 02:52:58,370
know more about the Epstein files.

4772
02:52:58,850 --> 02:53:00,870
The MAGA group is mad that they don't

4773
02:53:00,870 --> 02:53:03,590
know more about the January 6th investigation.

4774
02:53:03,990 --> 02:53:04,950
Are you going to give us any more

4775
02:53:04,950 --> 02:53:06,250
information on these two issues?

4776
02:53:07,050 --> 02:53:07,510
Sure.

4777
02:53:07,670 --> 02:53:09,970
And first to the Epstein, I'm mad that

4778
02:53:09,970 --> 02:53:12,070
I didn't have more information on Epstein.

4779
02:53:12,230 --> 02:53:14,290
I was given 200 pages of documents.

4780
02:53:14,290 --> 02:53:16,170
I've asked Director Patel.

4781
02:53:16,470 --> 02:53:17,650
He came in after that.

4782
02:53:17,750 --> 02:53:19,810
Of course, I'd asked for those documents prior

4783
02:53:19,810 --> 02:53:20,750
to Cash coming in.

4784
02:53:21,290 --> 02:53:22,690
Cash is going to get me all the

4785
02:53:22,690 --> 02:53:23,190
information.

4786
02:53:23,370 --> 02:53:26,130
I've asked him to find out why I

4787
02:53:26,130 --> 02:53:28,810
didn't receive all those documents and he didn't

4788
02:53:28,810 --> 02:53:30,170
receive all those documents.

4789
02:53:30,630 --> 02:53:32,230
We've now found out, of course, that they

4790
02:53:32,230 --> 02:53:32,990
were in New York.

4791
02:53:33,410 --> 02:53:36,530
We've received truckload of documents of evidence.

4792
02:53:37,070 --> 02:53:38,730
Cash is going to give me a deadline

4793
02:53:38,730 --> 02:53:40,910
on when he can go through that to

4794
02:53:40,910 --> 02:53:44,050
protect, of course, the victims of sex trafficking

4795
02:53:44,050 --> 02:53:46,270
who are wrapped into this.

4796
02:53:46,610 --> 02:53:48,630
And he's going to give me a deadline

4797
02:53:48,630 --> 02:53:49,990
on when he can get this and we

4798
02:53:49,990 --> 02:53:51,490
will get out as much as we can,

4799
02:53:51,550 --> 02:53:53,790
as fast as we can to the American

4800
02:53:53,790 --> 02:53:56,170
people because they deserve to know.

4801
02:53:56,430 --> 02:53:57,630
Same with January 6th.

4802
02:53:57,790 --> 02:54:00,670
We're all working on JFK right now.

4803
02:54:01,410 --> 02:54:03,270
We will be working on Martin Luther King.

4804
02:54:03,470 --> 02:54:05,430
All of these things that the president promised

4805
02:54:05,430 --> 02:54:07,410
we will be doing.

4806
02:54:07,690 --> 02:54:09,590
They can try to hide documents from us,

4807
02:54:09,790 --> 02:54:10,590
but they can't.

4808
02:54:10,870 --> 02:54:11,750
Might take a little longer.

4809
02:54:11,750 --> 02:54:13,730
We will find them and we will release

4810
02:54:13,730 --> 02:54:16,450
them to the American people because it's transparency.

4811
02:54:18,190 --> 02:54:18,750
Weak.

4812
02:54:18,750 --> 02:54:19,890
Very weak.

4813
02:54:20,450 --> 02:54:21,950
I have to conclude the following.

4814
02:54:22,210 --> 02:54:22,510
Okay.

4815
02:54:22,970 --> 02:54:25,490
With both the JFK and the Epstein stuff,

4816
02:54:26,150 --> 02:54:29,550
it is so terrible what's in there that

4817
02:54:29,550 --> 02:54:31,430
it would bring down the government and it

4818
02:54:31,430 --> 02:54:34,330
would collapse the United States.

4819
02:54:34,970 --> 02:54:38,330
What could be so terrible after 60 years

4820
02:54:38,330 --> 02:54:40,050
that it would collapse the United States?

4821
02:54:40,070 --> 02:54:41,370
I don't know, but it's got to be

4822
02:54:41,370 --> 02:54:45,010
something and to use the profanity, it has

4823
02:54:45,010 --> 02:54:48,070
to be an, oh, shit, kind of thing.

4824
02:54:48,070 --> 02:54:49,750
When you look at the data, you go,

4825
02:54:49,870 --> 02:54:51,030
oh, shit.

4826
02:54:51,530 --> 02:54:54,550
You can't say you can't bring this out.

4827
02:54:54,890 --> 02:54:56,870
Well, then it may be they're right.

4828
02:54:57,010 --> 02:54:59,830
Maybe it is Israel responsible for everything.

4829
02:55:01,050 --> 02:55:02,750
That could bring it down.

4830
02:55:02,870 --> 02:55:03,450
It could be anything.

4831
02:55:03,570 --> 02:55:04,850
It could be Great Britain.

4832
02:55:04,970 --> 02:55:05,750
It could be France.

4833
02:55:06,070 --> 02:55:07,590
It could be our own people.

4834
02:55:07,730 --> 02:55:09,210
That wouldn't bring down the government and be

4835
02:55:09,210 --> 02:55:11,430
like, you stupid limeys, you frogs.

4836
02:55:11,430 --> 02:55:12,290
I agree.

4837
02:55:12,550 --> 02:55:13,270
It could be Russia.

4838
02:55:13,450 --> 02:55:14,790
I mean, it could be, I don't know.

4839
02:55:15,850 --> 02:55:16,970
I have no idea.

4840
02:55:18,570 --> 02:55:21,130
It's just beyond my comprehension what it might

4841
02:55:21,130 --> 02:55:21,350
be.

4842
02:55:21,730 --> 02:55:23,670
You can't deconstruct it because there's not enough

4843
02:55:23,670 --> 02:55:24,290
information.

4844
02:55:25,830 --> 02:55:27,790
It could be that the entire U.S.

4845
02:55:27,870 --> 02:55:29,730
government has been run by the mafia for

4846
02:55:29,730 --> 02:55:30,810
the last 40 years.

4847
02:55:30,910 --> 02:55:31,490
We don't know that.

4848
02:55:32,230 --> 02:55:34,230
That could be a problem.

4849
02:55:35,170 --> 02:55:38,610
Well, this is not helping the situation, Pam.

4850
02:55:39,370 --> 02:55:41,270
And then, of course, you had the guy

4851
02:55:41,270 --> 02:55:43,510
who was the head of the FBI in

4852
02:55:43,510 --> 02:55:44,490
New York who quit.

4853
02:55:45,410 --> 02:55:49,010
Is there something very suspicious about these Marines?

4854
02:55:49,290 --> 02:55:52,450
He's another, I think, ex-lieutenant colonel or

4855
02:55:52,450 --> 02:55:55,110
colonel in the Marine Corps that became this

4856
02:55:55,110 --> 02:55:57,170
head of the FBI in New York office.

4857
02:55:57,530 --> 02:55:59,710
And I'm reminded of John Kelly, the Marine

4858
02:55:59,710 --> 02:56:01,630
who was running the White House.

4859
02:56:01,850 --> 02:56:04,890
It set poor Trump up with John Bolton

4860
02:56:04,890 --> 02:56:06,770
and got rid of Steve Bannon.

4861
02:56:06,910 --> 02:56:07,830
What is with the Marines?

4862
02:56:07,910 --> 02:56:10,710
What are the Marines doing at this moment?

4863
02:56:10,890 --> 02:56:12,550
I mean, why are they working against the

4864
02:56:12,550 --> 02:56:13,690
president of the United States?

4865
02:56:14,490 --> 02:56:15,590
You know what's going on?

4866
02:56:15,690 --> 02:56:17,610
You know, the only thing that could really,

4867
02:56:18,270 --> 02:56:20,790
really bring down the entire government is as

4868
02:56:20,790 --> 02:56:23,310
if it turns out that they're all pedophiles.

4869
02:56:26,200 --> 02:56:28,220
Like the whole thing has been run by

4870
02:56:28,220 --> 02:56:28,980
nut jobs.

4871
02:56:29,840 --> 02:56:30,460
That could be.

4872
02:56:31,320 --> 02:56:34,520
That could really, because then it would be

4873
02:56:34,520 --> 02:56:37,340
like everyone would be suspect and everyone would

4874
02:56:37,340 --> 02:56:37,540
go.

4875
02:56:37,660 --> 02:56:38,820
No one would want to work there.

4876
02:56:42,600 --> 02:56:43,120
I don't know.

4877
02:56:43,180 --> 02:56:44,780
Whatever the case is, I don't see this

4878
02:56:44,780 --> 02:56:46,980
stuff coming out because they're freaked.

4879
02:56:47,200 --> 02:56:50,500
Somebody is freaked out because the Kennedy thing

4880
02:56:50,500 --> 02:56:51,760
is way overdue.

4881
02:56:51,820 --> 02:56:52,680
It's not even close.

4882
02:56:53,080 --> 02:56:55,100
So what's the connection between Kennedy and Epstein?

4883
02:56:55,240 --> 02:56:56,680
There has to be a connection because they

4884
02:56:56,680 --> 02:56:58,000
won't release either of those two.

4885
02:56:58,320 --> 02:57:00,740
They'll probably bring out the J6 invest.

4886
02:57:00,880 --> 02:57:01,800
So who cares?

4887
02:57:02,420 --> 02:57:04,140
You know, this other stuff that we don't

4888
02:57:04,140 --> 02:57:06,220
care about will be released and they'll just

4889
02:57:06,220 --> 02:57:06,380
sit.

4890
02:57:06,480 --> 02:57:07,620
They're just going to sit on it.

4891
02:57:08,160 --> 02:57:08,980
You know what I think?

4892
02:57:09,880 --> 02:57:11,160
Or if they bring it out, it's going

4893
02:57:11,160 --> 02:57:13,400
to be so massaged that it'll be a

4894
02:57:13,400 --> 02:57:13,940
phony.

4895
02:57:14,080 --> 02:57:15,000
It'll be a fake.

4896
02:57:15,420 --> 02:57:16,660
I think it's Adrenochrome.

4897
02:57:18,280 --> 02:57:18,720
Adrenochrome.

4898
02:57:19,040 --> 02:57:19,500
Could be.

4899
02:57:23,420 --> 02:57:33,700
Well, the

4900
02:57:33,700 --> 02:57:35,040
one thing you know for sure is your

4901
02:57:35,040 --> 02:57:37,540
favorite podcasters are not on the Adrenochrome because

4902
02:57:37,540 --> 02:57:38,320
we're boomers.

4903
02:57:38,440 --> 02:57:40,720
Otherwise we'd be looking young and svelte and

4904
02:57:40,720 --> 02:57:41,940
we'd be just fantastic.

4905
02:57:42,100 --> 02:57:44,020
But no, no, no Adrenochrome for us.

4906
02:57:44,080 --> 02:57:47,160
Instead, we have producers who we're going to

4907
02:57:47,160 --> 02:57:47,420
thank.

4908
02:57:47,500 --> 02:57:48,340
$50 and above.

4909
02:57:48,640 --> 02:57:50,160
We have John's tip of the day coming

4910
02:57:50,160 --> 02:57:50,380
up.

4911
02:57:50,420 --> 02:57:51,500
We got end of show mixes.

4912
02:57:51,900 --> 02:57:53,880
There's all kinds of stuff happening.

4913
02:57:53,960 --> 02:57:55,800
A lot of good meetups and meetup report.

4914
02:57:55,940 --> 02:57:57,180
But right now, John, take us through the

4915
02:57:57,180 --> 02:57:58,460
50s, if you will, please.

4916
02:57:58,760 --> 02:58:00,080
Yeah, and we're going to start off with

4917
02:58:00,080 --> 02:58:02,500
we have, I can't pronounce his name.

4918
02:58:02,540 --> 02:58:03,040
He's Irish.

4919
02:58:04,060 --> 02:58:05,260
He's from Glasgow.

4920
02:58:05,600 --> 02:58:06,500
Let me give it a try.

4921
02:58:07,940 --> 02:58:09,420
Cherian, Cherian, Doherty.

4922
02:58:11,800 --> 02:58:13,340
Cherian, yeah.

4923
02:58:13,340 --> 02:58:15,360
I'd say Cherian, Doherty.

4924
02:58:15,660 --> 02:58:18,200
Cherian, Cherian, Karen.

4925
02:58:18,380 --> 02:58:19,660
Maybe it's Karen, Kieran.

4926
02:58:19,820 --> 02:58:21,320
Could be Karen, could be Karen.

4927
02:58:21,840 --> 02:58:22,380
Yeah, could be.

4928
02:58:22,380 --> 02:58:23,400
Kieran Doherty.

4929
02:58:23,900 --> 02:58:25,440
But he's in Glasgow.

4930
02:58:25,620 --> 02:58:26,820
He, she's in Glasgow.

4931
02:58:27,360 --> 02:58:29,980
$185.88 with a yearly bonus, the yearly

4932
02:58:29,980 --> 02:58:30,520
donation.

4933
02:58:30,820 --> 02:58:31,280
Thank you.

4934
02:58:31,720 --> 02:58:32,540
So that's nice.

4935
02:58:32,760 --> 02:58:35,920
We don't hear enough from our UK folk.

4936
02:58:36,040 --> 02:58:37,620
No, but they're all afraid to donate.

4937
02:58:37,680 --> 02:58:38,540
I'm surprised.

4938
02:58:38,700 --> 02:58:41,100
Yeah, he'll be knocking on the door in

4939
02:58:41,100 --> 02:58:41,740
a minute, you know.

4940
02:58:41,740 --> 02:58:43,320
What are you giving to those guys for?

4941
02:58:43,440 --> 02:58:43,700
Open up.

4942
02:58:45,080 --> 02:58:50,660
Sean Homan in Noblesville, Indiana, $148.48. Martha

4943
02:58:50,660 --> 02:58:54,660
Sharp in Lexington, South Carolina, $123.45. Van

4944
02:58:54,660 --> 02:58:55,500
Newman in...

4945
02:58:56,060 --> 02:58:56,500
Newman?

4946
02:58:57,140 --> 02:59:06,860
Newman in Bernalito, Bernalito, Bernatillo, Bernatillo, New

4947
02:59:06,860 --> 02:59:12,280
Mexico, $105.35. Sorrel, which is a vegetable.

4948
02:59:12,860 --> 02:59:16,420
Sorrel Cooper in China, Michigan.

4949
02:59:17,220 --> 02:59:18,620
Made in China.

4950
02:59:19,100 --> 02:59:19,440
Michigan.

4951
02:59:19,640 --> 02:59:21,040
I could have a double meaning.

4952
02:59:22,060 --> 02:59:25,120
$101.14 and he's got a happy birthday

4953
02:59:25,120 --> 02:59:28,820
shout out to her husband, Sir John of

4954
02:59:28,820 --> 02:59:30,080
the St. Clair Lowlands.

4955
02:59:31,020 --> 02:59:32,440
They're going to move to Arizona.

4956
02:59:34,360 --> 02:59:35,780
Uh, Sorrel.

4957
02:59:36,400 --> 02:59:37,540
Interesting name for a woman.

4958
02:59:38,340 --> 02:59:43,000
Thomas Burns, $101.01. Lucas Williams in Roswell,

4959
02:59:43,100 --> 02:59:43,940
New Mexico, $100.

4960
02:59:46,930 --> 02:59:50,350
Sir Mike, $44.00. In Beth...

4961
02:59:51,410 --> 02:59:51,890
Bethalto?

4962
02:59:52,330 --> 02:59:53,270
These places.

4963
02:59:54,170 --> 02:59:58,450
Bethalto, Illinois, $100.00. He wants some yak

4964
02:59:58,450 --> 02:59:58,770
karma.

4965
02:59:58,890 --> 03:00:00,050
If you give him that, he'll give you

4966
03:00:00,050 --> 03:00:01,510
a Bellamy salute, he says.

4967
03:00:02,950 --> 03:00:03,730
Whatever that is.

4968
03:00:03,930 --> 03:00:04,850
I don't know if I want one.

4969
03:00:05,110 --> 03:00:05,390
I don't know.

4970
03:00:05,390 --> 03:00:08,630
Dame, uh, Melivation.

4971
03:00:09,990 --> 03:00:12,410
Melivation in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

4972
03:00:12,570 --> 03:00:13,170
Came in with $100.

4973
03:00:13,610 --> 03:00:21,650
Sir Sterling in Boise, $81.95. Uh, oh,

4974
03:00:21,730 --> 03:00:24,310
he's sent in the JCD.

4975
03:00:24,450 --> 03:00:25,570
He's the one that sent in the red

4976
03:00:25,570 --> 03:00:25,830
hoodies.

4977
03:00:26,470 --> 03:00:28,450
I also got a couple of some other

4978
03:00:28,450 --> 03:00:29,630
people to thank, which I'll do in the

4979
03:00:29,630 --> 03:00:30,130
next show.

4980
03:00:30,550 --> 03:00:33,550
Ohio Staters, who sent more hoodies in.

4981
03:00:33,550 --> 03:00:35,590
I got a lot of hoodies now.

4982
03:00:37,430 --> 03:00:39,810
I also got a note from somebody telling

4983
03:00:39,810 --> 03:00:41,350
me to be careful if I wear the

4984
03:00:41,350 --> 03:00:43,390
Ohio State hoodie, because I'll be swamped with

4985
03:00:43,390 --> 03:00:44,890
Ohio State nut balls.

4986
03:00:46,030 --> 03:00:47,050
Aren't we the best?

4987
03:00:48,390 --> 03:00:55,470
Curtis Kuhl in East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, $80.17.

4988
03:00:57,710 --> 03:00:59,430
Which is Irish boobs.

4989
03:00:59,630 --> 03:01:00,430
Or smiling.

4990
03:01:01,070 --> 03:01:01,590
$17.

4991
03:01:02,710 --> 03:01:04,390
The Irish boobs are smiling.

4992
03:01:05,110 --> 03:01:06,290
It's a birthday for him.

4993
03:01:07,910 --> 03:01:11,590
Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina, $8.008. He's

4994
03:01:11,590 --> 03:01:13,590
the Archduke of Loon, a lover of America,

4995
03:01:13,710 --> 03:01:14,330
lover of boobs.

4996
03:01:14,450 --> 03:01:18,170
Dame Rita, our friend in Sparks, Nevada, $76.

4997
03:01:18,850 --> 03:01:20,850
She says we're doing a great job and

4998
03:01:20,850 --> 03:01:22,170
she loves our style.

4999
03:01:22,450 --> 03:01:23,270
She never writes a note.

5000
03:01:23,970 --> 03:01:27,490
Jackie Horn in Plainfield, Indiana, $67.

5001
03:01:27,490 --> 03:01:30,090
For her hunk-a-hunk-a-burning love,

5002
03:01:30,190 --> 03:01:30,570
John.

5003
03:01:30,770 --> 03:01:31,890
All right.

5004
03:01:32,130 --> 03:01:32,890
It's a birthday.

5005
03:01:33,450 --> 03:01:40,150
David Hall, $63.31. Peter Hulrigel

5006
03:01:40,150 --> 03:01:49,590
in Konigsberg, Austria.

5007
03:01:50,590 --> 03:01:52,110
An Austrian, good.

5008
03:01:52,250 --> 03:01:53,890
And he's never been deduced, he says.

5009
03:01:55,350 --> 03:01:57,230
You've been deduced.

5010
03:01:57,230 --> 03:01:58,210
You're deduced now.

5011
03:01:58,670 --> 03:02:01,030
He came in with $72.63 and he

5012
03:02:01,030 --> 03:02:03,290
says he just found new work.

5013
03:02:03,670 --> 03:02:05,950
You helped me through that hard time.

5014
03:02:06,090 --> 03:02:07,650
Well, that's what we're here for.

5015
03:02:09,030 --> 03:02:13,910
Elliott Lang, $6.006. Sabode Peth in Metairie,

5016
03:02:14,530 --> 03:02:20,290
Louisiana, $5.809. This is his Blofeld donation,

5017
03:02:20,430 --> 03:02:24,430
$5.809. Everybody's coming in with Blofeld donations

5018
03:02:24,430 --> 03:02:27,210
of $5.809. James Edmondson in South Plainfield,

5019
03:02:27,330 --> 03:02:30,110
New Jersey, $55.10. Sir Luke Rayner in

5020
03:02:30,110 --> 03:02:33,830
London, UK, $55.10. Karma for all.

5021
03:02:33,910 --> 03:02:35,010
We'll give some karma at the end.

5022
03:02:36,130 --> 03:02:42,910
Michael Eager in North Bethesda, Maryland, $52.76.

5023
03:02:43,130 --> 03:02:45,170
This is Mike from the Outer Swamp meetup,

5024
03:02:45,190 --> 03:02:45,810
a reminder.

5025
03:02:47,670 --> 03:02:50,330
Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina, $50.

5026
03:02:50,410 --> 03:02:51,910
Oh, the rest of these are 50s and

5027
03:02:51,910 --> 03:02:52,390
here we go.

5028
03:02:52,390 --> 03:02:58,130
Uh, Kevin, Diane Schwanebeck in Johnsburg, Illinois, Greg

5029
03:02:58,130 --> 03:03:00,530
Mackey in Medford, Oregon.

5030
03:03:01,770 --> 03:03:04,510
Philip Blue in Louisville, Kentucky.

5031
03:03:05,050 --> 03:03:06,690
Oh, I'll get it at the end for

5032
03:03:06,690 --> 03:03:06,850
him.

5033
03:03:07,570 --> 03:03:07,670
Yeah.

5034
03:03:08,170 --> 03:03:11,230
Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut for you

5035
03:03:11,230 --> 03:03:12,530
people who need landscaping.

5036
03:03:13,030 --> 03:03:17,010
Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta, a citizen

5037
03:03:17,010 --> 03:03:18,590
in Bensonville, Illinois.

5038
03:03:19,200 --> 03:03:22,750
And last on the list, Sir Jerry Wingenroth,

5039
03:03:22,910 --> 03:03:25,990
our pal there, a regular contributor from Saugus,

5040
03:03:26,250 --> 03:03:26,730
California.

5041
03:03:27,230 --> 03:03:28,010
Ah, wonderful.

5042
03:03:28,170 --> 03:03:29,090
Thank you all so much.

5043
03:03:29,210 --> 03:03:31,150
No one under 50 mentioned because it's all

5044
03:03:31,150 --> 03:03:33,550
for reasons of anonymity, but we do again

5045
03:03:33,550 --> 03:03:35,690
want to thank our executive and associate executive

5046
03:03:35,690 --> 03:03:36,990
producers for helping us out.

5047
03:03:37,070 --> 03:03:37,510
What are you drinking?

5048
03:03:38,110 --> 03:03:39,310
Just polar seltzer.

5049
03:03:39,610 --> 03:03:39,750
Okay.

5050
03:03:40,270 --> 03:03:42,410
And you can set up a recurring donation.

5051
03:03:42,650 --> 03:03:45,910
Please consider doing that at noagenda donations.com.

5052
03:03:45,910 --> 03:03:47,970
Check if you had one because it may

5053
03:03:47,970 --> 03:03:48,770
have been expired.

5054
03:03:49,050 --> 03:03:50,450
It does happen around this time of year.

5055
03:03:50,770 --> 03:03:51,790
noagendadonations.com.

5056
03:03:51,850 --> 03:03:54,250
Any amount, any frequency, jobs, karma with the

5057
03:03:54,250 --> 03:03:54,350
app.

5058
03:03:54,710 --> 03:03:57,770
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

5059
03:03:57,970 --> 03:03:59,410
Let's vote for jobs.

5060
03:04:01,150 --> 03:04:05,330
You've got karma.

5061
03:04:05,610 --> 03:04:06,310
That's right.

5062
03:04:06,750 --> 03:04:07,930
noagendadonations.com.

5063
03:04:08,010 --> 03:04:08,770
Donate today.

5064
03:04:08,770 --> 03:04:10,810
It's your birthday, birthday.

5065
03:04:13,850 --> 03:04:15,970
Jackie Horn wishes her hunk of hunk of

5066
03:04:15,970 --> 03:04:16,510
burning love.

5067
03:04:16,610 --> 03:04:17,510
John, happy birthday.

5068
03:04:17,610 --> 03:04:19,730
He turned 67 on March 4th.

5069
03:04:19,810 --> 03:04:22,210
Sir Face Tension, happy birthday to his late

5070
03:04:22,210 --> 03:04:23,850
mom, Ann Stedman.

5071
03:04:24,410 --> 03:04:26,550
She would have celebrated on the 14th.

5072
03:04:26,610 --> 03:04:28,210
That is a, what do you call that?

5073
03:04:29,150 --> 03:04:30,810
I forgot the term he used.

5074
03:04:30,910 --> 03:04:31,550
I have to remember this.

5075
03:04:31,610 --> 03:04:32,530
The Ides of March.

5076
03:04:34,130 --> 03:04:36,570
Sir M and Dame Drea wish their son

5077
03:04:36,570 --> 03:04:38,010
Hambone a happy birthday.

5078
03:04:38,010 --> 03:04:41,810
He celebrated, he celebrates today, 15 years old

5079
03:04:41,810 --> 03:04:42,090
today.

5080
03:04:42,390 --> 03:04:45,190
Sir Proteus, happy birthday to his wife, Avis,

5081
03:04:46,070 --> 03:04:47,110
celebrates today.

5082
03:04:47,290 --> 03:04:49,930
Curtis Cool celebrates his birthday tomorrow.

5083
03:04:50,310 --> 03:04:54,570
Savannah Schoenecker wishes her amazing boyfriend, George Hernandez,

5084
03:04:54,750 --> 03:04:56,490
or maybe it's Jorge, a happy one, turning

5085
03:04:56,490 --> 03:04:58,130
28 on March 21st.

5086
03:04:58,230 --> 03:05:00,530
And Sorrel Cooper, happy birthday to her husband,

5087
03:05:00,650 --> 03:05:02,410
Sir John of the St. Clair Lowlands.

5088
03:05:02,690 --> 03:05:04,510
And we wish all of these people a

5089
03:05:04,510 --> 03:05:06,490
very happy birthday from everybody here at the

5090
03:05:06,490 --> 03:05:08,550
best podcast in the universe.

5091
03:05:10,550 --> 03:05:12,070
And now we're going to start with our

5092
03:05:12,070 --> 03:05:15,570
Commodores before we get to our knights and

5093
03:05:15,570 --> 03:05:16,550
then we have an upgrade.

5094
03:05:16,830 --> 03:05:19,990
So we'd like to welcome the following people

5095
03:05:19,990 --> 03:05:20,990
to the podium.

5096
03:05:21,210 --> 03:05:24,550
Commodore Sir Baron Mike of Clark County, Nevada,

5097
03:05:24,790 --> 03:05:27,050
Slayer of Taxes, and Commodore Aaron.

5098
03:05:27,510 --> 03:05:30,010
Both of you will be receiving that wonderful

5099
03:05:30,010 --> 03:05:30,670
certificate.

5100
03:05:30,970 --> 03:05:33,450
Go to noagenerates.com, give us the address.

5101
03:05:33,450 --> 03:05:36,490
And we say Commodores arriving.

5102
03:05:38,210 --> 03:05:41,390
We have a layaway knight from Michael Sikora

5103
03:05:41,390 --> 03:05:44,230
who says, I'm writing to claim my knighthood.

5104
03:05:44,410 --> 03:05:45,190
It was a layaway.

5105
03:05:45,410 --> 03:05:45,930
It happens.

5106
03:05:46,110 --> 03:05:48,350
People do this months and months, sometimes years,

5107
03:05:48,410 --> 03:05:49,230
but you can get there.

5108
03:05:49,570 --> 03:05:51,430
Henceforth, I'd like to be known as Sir

5109
03:05:51,430 --> 03:05:52,330
Mumbly Peg.

5110
03:05:53,050 --> 03:05:54,010
Sir Mumbly Peg.

5111
03:05:55,010 --> 03:05:57,750
My mother, Linda Sikora, told me about the

5112
03:05:57,750 --> 03:06:00,130
game of Mumbly Peg last summer and I

5113
03:06:00,130 --> 03:06:02,070
knew immediately I needed to make that my

5114
03:06:02,070 --> 03:06:03,310
knight name.

5115
03:06:03,790 --> 03:06:05,950
Mumbly Peg was born long before the internet,

5116
03:06:06,030 --> 03:06:07,750
when kids had nothing better to do than

5117
03:06:07,750 --> 03:06:09,270
throw knives at their feet.

5118
03:06:09,630 --> 03:06:11,950
John, can you explain the game of Mumbly

5119
03:06:11,950 --> 03:06:12,330
Peg?

5120
03:06:13,530 --> 03:06:15,350
Uh, I always thought it was done with

5121
03:06:15,350 --> 03:06:17,390
the hands where you had, you push in,

5122
03:06:17,490 --> 03:06:18,110
put their hand down.

5123
03:06:18,170 --> 03:06:19,050
Chuck, chuck, chuck, you do the...

5124
03:06:19,050 --> 03:06:20,450
Yeah, with knife going back and forth.

5125
03:06:20,690 --> 03:06:22,850
But I think maybe it was before my

5126
03:06:22,850 --> 03:06:24,750
time, actually, to be honest, which is a

5127
03:06:24,750 --> 03:06:25,190
long time.

5128
03:06:25,290 --> 03:06:27,090
So I don't think anyone living today knows,

5129
03:06:27,450 --> 03:06:28,350
ever played this game.

5130
03:06:28,350 --> 03:06:29,810
Well, people who played it may not be

5131
03:06:29,810 --> 03:06:31,710
living anymore because it involves knives.

5132
03:06:31,770 --> 03:06:33,170
I think you also threw knives at somebody's

5133
03:06:33,170 --> 03:06:34,630
feet and they had to duck or something,

5134
03:06:34,810 --> 03:06:35,130
I'm not sure.

5135
03:06:35,270 --> 03:06:36,210
Not a great idea.

5136
03:06:36,690 --> 03:06:38,470
No Agenda is truly the best podcast in

5137
03:06:38,470 --> 03:06:38,790
the universe.

5138
03:06:38,910 --> 03:06:40,510
I enjoyed listening with my human resource.

5139
03:06:40,650 --> 03:06:42,670
Future Miss, Little Miss Mumbly Peg.

5140
03:06:43,050 --> 03:06:44,390
For all of you in Gitmo Nation, knighthood

5141
03:06:44,390 --> 03:06:46,610
is easily achievable with sustaining donations.

5142
03:06:47,130 --> 03:06:48,790
Set it and forget it, but remember to

5143
03:06:48,790 --> 03:06:49,530
keep them running.

5144
03:06:50,110 --> 03:06:51,610
And for the round table, he would like

5145
03:06:51,610 --> 03:06:51,810
some...

5146
03:06:57,630 --> 03:06:59,690
I don't know what that is.

5147
03:06:59,990 --> 03:07:02,810
With pan-fried walleye and venison pork tacos.

5148
03:07:03,430 --> 03:07:06,410
Okay, Michael, you're about to be knighted right

5149
03:07:06,410 --> 03:07:06,630
now.

5150
03:07:06,690 --> 03:07:08,110
In fact, I'm going to grab the blade.

5151
03:07:08,270 --> 03:07:10,230
We have three knights and one dame, John.

5152
03:07:10,530 --> 03:07:11,490
I got it right here.

5153
03:07:11,670 --> 03:07:12,370
Very nice.

5154
03:07:12,570 --> 03:07:15,650
Okay, Avis, step on up.

5155
03:07:15,750 --> 03:07:18,430
Michael Secora, step on up, as well as

5156
03:07:18,430 --> 03:07:20,370
Ray Samori and Mike Keeler.

5157
03:07:21,250 --> 03:07:21,790
All three of them.

5158
03:07:21,790 --> 03:07:24,030
Four of you about to enter that exclusive

5159
03:07:24,030 --> 03:07:25,890
club, the No Agenda Knights and Dames.

5160
03:07:26,110 --> 03:07:28,250
I'm hereby happy to pronounce the K-D

5161
03:07:28,250 --> 03:07:32,050
as Dame Avis, Hugger of Hounds, Sir Mumbly

5162
03:07:32,050 --> 03:07:34,830
Peg, Sir Woody the Phantom, and Sir Mike.

5163
03:07:35,210 --> 03:07:36,730
For you, we've got hookers and blow, rent

5164
03:07:36,730 --> 03:07:39,230
boys and chardonnay, but also we have window

5165
03:07:39,230 --> 03:07:41,090
gin, 15-year-old whiskey, and home-baked

5166
03:07:41,090 --> 03:07:42,770
Nestle chocolate chip cookies.

5167
03:07:43,250 --> 03:07:46,070
Cate Frati, Frati Laguna, Italian wine with pan

5168
03:07:46,070 --> 03:07:48,630
-fried walleye and venison pork tacos, and some

5169
03:07:48,630 --> 03:07:50,290
Pat's Blue Ribbon for the trolls.

5170
03:07:50,290 --> 03:07:52,330
Along with that, we've got some ginger, lingerville,

5171
03:07:52,470 --> 03:07:55,810
sparkling cider, escargot, sparkling suburban, and as always,

5172
03:07:55,870 --> 03:07:56,550
the mutton and meat.

5173
03:07:56,630 --> 03:07:58,370
All four of you head over to noagendarings

5174
03:07:58,370 --> 03:07:58,770
.com.

5175
03:07:58,870 --> 03:08:01,370
You can line up behind the Commodores, and

5176
03:08:01,370 --> 03:08:03,450
that means that all you have to do

5177
03:08:03,450 --> 03:08:04,990
is give us your ring size.

5178
03:08:05,190 --> 03:08:05,970
It's not that hard.

5179
03:08:06,690 --> 03:08:08,510
There's a ring sizing guide on the website,

5180
03:08:08,970 --> 03:08:11,190
and send us an address, and you will

5181
03:08:11,190 --> 03:08:14,250
get that handsome knight or dame ring, along

5182
03:08:14,250 --> 03:08:17,390
with a certificate of authenticity and some wax

5183
03:08:17,390 --> 03:08:20,910
to seal your important correspondence, because it is

5184
03:08:20,910 --> 03:08:22,010
a Cignet ring.

5185
03:08:22,370 --> 03:08:23,770
And now we've got some title changes.

5186
03:08:25,050 --> 03:08:29,010
Title changes, turn and face the slayers.

5187
03:08:29,430 --> 03:08:32,670
Title changes, don't want to be a douchebag.

5188
03:08:32,670 --> 03:08:34,230
So we have that upgrade we talked about

5189
03:08:34,230 --> 03:08:37,290
earlier, Sir Mike, Sir Commodore Baron Mike of

5190
03:08:37,290 --> 03:08:39,530
Clark County, Nevada, slayer of taxes.

5191
03:08:39,970 --> 03:08:42,610
Sir Scobie will become Sir Scobie, Archduke of

5192
03:08:42,610 --> 03:08:45,230
the Piedmont, and Sir Dr. Sharkey becomes Duke,

5193
03:08:45,610 --> 03:08:48,350
Sir Dr. Sharkey, and he claimed Mars, so

5194
03:08:48,350 --> 03:08:50,830
he will become the Lord of Mars.

5195
03:08:51,010 --> 03:08:51,890
Wow, that's amazing.

5196
03:08:52,030 --> 03:08:54,130
Thank you all very much for your additional

5197
03:08:54,130 --> 03:08:56,730
$1,000 support of the best podcast in

5198
03:08:56,730 --> 03:08:57,310
the universe.

5199
03:08:57,510 --> 03:09:00,650
No Agenda Meetups.

5200
03:09:03,670 --> 03:09:07,190
Yeah, the No Agenda Meetups, they are producer

5201
03:09:07,190 --> 03:09:07,750
-organized.

5202
03:09:07,810 --> 03:09:09,990
You can find an entire list at noagendameetups

5203
03:09:09,990 --> 03:09:10,450
.com.

5204
03:09:10,510 --> 03:09:12,030
This is where you get the connection that

5205
03:09:12,030 --> 03:09:12,730
gives you protection.

5206
03:09:12,730 --> 03:09:14,750
The people you meet there are the people

5207
03:09:14,750 --> 03:09:16,990
who will be the first responders in an

5208
03:09:16,990 --> 03:09:17,370
emergency.

5209
03:09:17,570 --> 03:09:20,090
I know because they all responded and checked

5210
03:09:20,090 --> 03:09:22,030
on me when the fire was raging here.

5211
03:09:22,550 --> 03:09:24,050
Here's an example of a meetup.

5212
03:09:24,050 --> 03:09:24,830
This is a meetup report.

5213
03:09:24,990 --> 03:09:27,330
This is the Snow Homo One Ball Meetup.

5214
03:09:27,450 --> 03:09:27,950
Oh, yeah.

5215
03:09:28,290 --> 03:09:30,270
In the morning, ladies and germs, this is

5216
03:09:30,270 --> 03:09:32,170
Jorge reaching out from the Snohomish area.

5217
03:09:32,510 --> 03:09:34,530
I'm here hanging out with a group of

5218
03:09:34,530 --> 03:09:35,050
fine people.

5219
03:09:35,190 --> 03:09:36,150
I'm going to pass the phone around.

5220
03:09:37,310 --> 03:09:38,210
I've got one ball.

5221
03:09:38,750 --> 03:09:39,330
Just thought I'd mention that.

5222
03:09:39,390 --> 03:09:39,550
Sorry.

5223
03:09:39,750 --> 03:09:40,350
All right, moving on.

5224
03:09:40,670 --> 03:09:41,930
In the morning, this is Savannah.

5225
03:09:42,570 --> 03:09:44,090
Happy to be here.

5226
03:09:44,690 --> 03:09:46,950
We're at the recovery center for the whiplash.

5227
03:09:47,110 --> 03:09:49,010
The ball is in your court, John.

5228
03:09:49,390 --> 03:09:52,370
This is Jack Ash, recovering from what apparently

5229
03:09:52,370 --> 03:09:56,890
was a genetically predisposed engineered virus for Saskatchewan.

5230
03:09:57,090 --> 03:09:57,790
I can't speak.

5231
03:09:58,130 --> 03:10:00,850
But we're here at beautiful Snohomish at the

5232
03:10:00,850 --> 03:10:01,630
Sound of Summit Brewing.

5233
03:10:01,630 --> 03:10:05,770
And we're all wondering why bigmike2028.com redirects

5234
03:10:05,770 --> 03:10:07,570
to infowarsstore.com.

5235
03:10:07,890 --> 03:10:08,610
All right, that's all.

5236
03:10:08,690 --> 03:10:08,970
Take care.

5237
03:10:10,050 --> 03:10:11,130
Alex got it.

5238
03:10:11,130 --> 03:10:11,910
There you go.

5239
03:10:12,510 --> 03:10:14,230
No wonder we missed out on it.

5240
03:10:14,610 --> 03:10:16,290
There's no meetups today, but there is one

5241
03:10:16,290 --> 03:10:17,190
coming up on Tuesday.

5242
03:10:17,310 --> 03:10:19,930
The North Idaho Sanity Brigade, the March meetup,

5243
03:10:20,010 --> 03:10:21,910
5 o'clock at Trails and Brewery and

5244
03:10:21,910 --> 03:10:24,250
Brick Oven Pizza in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.

5245
03:10:24,790 --> 03:10:26,610
And then our next show day, Thursday, Central

5246
03:10:26,610 --> 03:10:30,590
Wisconsin, Wausau, 3.33 p.m. Skanas in

5247
03:10:30,590 --> 03:10:31,730
Schofield, Wisconsin.

5248
03:10:32,250 --> 03:10:34,330
And you can go to Tucson, Arizona for

5249
03:10:34,330 --> 03:10:36,590
the It's Cold, It's Hot Tucson meetup, 4

5250
03:10:36,590 --> 03:10:37,870
o'clock at Canyons Crown.

5251
03:10:37,870 --> 03:10:40,970
Also on Thursday, the Denver Spring Equinox meetup,

5252
03:10:41,090 --> 03:10:43,410
6.30 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado.

5253
03:10:43,770 --> 03:10:44,990
Man, they got a lot of meetups going

5254
03:10:44,990 --> 03:10:45,410
on there.

5255
03:10:45,690 --> 03:10:47,490
And Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday.

5256
03:10:47,570 --> 03:10:49,350
It happens every third Thursday of the month

5257
03:10:49,350 --> 03:10:49,990
at 7 o'clock.

5258
03:10:50,390 --> 03:10:52,490
Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.

5259
03:10:52,670 --> 03:10:55,250
Many more to be found, including Osaka, Japan,

5260
03:10:55,370 --> 03:10:56,270
if you happen to be there.

5261
03:10:57,170 --> 03:10:59,510
Culemborg in Gelderland, the Netherlands.

5262
03:10:59,830 --> 03:11:01,310
A lot more in the United States.

5263
03:11:01,410 --> 03:11:02,990
And there's even one in Oakland on your

5264
03:11:02,990 --> 03:11:04,490
birthday, John, April 5th.

5265
03:11:04,490 --> 03:11:06,370
I'm figuring maybe you should go check it

5266
03:11:06,370 --> 03:11:06,510
out.

5267
03:11:06,510 --> 03:11:08,010
You might get some gifts.

5268
03:11:08,110 --> 03:11:09,010
You might get some presents.

5269
03:11:10,130 --> 03:11:11,270
I might get some presents.

5270
03:11:11,450 --> 03:11:12,490
You might give it a shot.

5271
03:11:12,830 --> 03:11:13,590
Ohio State hoodies.

5272
03:11:14,230 --> 03:11:15,850
You need more of those.

5273
03:11:16,210 --> 03:11:18,250
More hoodies for John from Ohio State.

5274
03:11:18,730 --> 03:11:21,590
Oh, Ohio State definitely beat Michigan when it

5275
03:11:21,590 --> 03:11:22,310
came to the hoodies.

5276
03:11:22,950 --> 03:11:25,530
So go to noagendameetups.com to see the

5277
03:11:25,530 --> 03:11:26,150
entire list.

5278
03:11:26,210 --> 03:11:26,670
There's a calendar.

5279
03:11:26,770 --> 03:11:27,470
You can look them up.

5280
03:11:27,530 --> 03:11:28,310
You can search them.

5281
03:11:28,730 --> 03:11:30,550
I think they even have meetup reports.

5282
03:11:30,770 --> 03:11:32,370
And you can file one after you've done

5283
03:11:32,370 --> 03:11:32,850
your meetup.

5284
03:11:33,230 --> 03:11:34,650
You can find it near you.

5285
03:11:34,950 --> 03:11:35,450
Wait a minute.

5286
03:11:35,450 --> 03:11:36,530
It's not near you.

5287
03:11:36,630 --> 03:11:38,270
Oh, why don't you start one yourself?

5288
03:11:38,350 --> 03:11:39,450
It's really easy to do.

5289
03:11:39,890 --> 03:12:00,510
noagendameetups.com So

5290
03:12:00,510 --> 03:12:02,730
now we have somewhat of a conundrum.

5291
03:12:03,730 --> 03:12:07,230
The conundrum being, I don't believe for a

5292
03:12:07,230 --> 03:12:11,010
second you stopped using 11 Labs AI to

5293
03:12:11,010 --> 03:12:12,870
create your end of show ISOs.

5294
03:12:13,490 --> 03:12:14,650
No, now it's obvious.

5295
03:12:14,790 --> 03:12:17,470
So I'll just, I'll bring the real ones.

5296
03:12:17,570 --> 03:12:18,590
You bring the fake ones.

5297
03:12:18,590 --> 03:12:20,250
Oh, you're not going to, you're not going

5298
03:12:20,250 --> 03:12:20,730
to cheat?

5299
03:12:20,910 --> 03:12:22,550
No, I'm no, I'm not a cheater.

5300
03:12:22,750 --> 03:12:23,930
I'm a lover, not a cheater.

5301
03:12:24,130 --> 03:12:25,190
I don't do these things.

5302
03:12:25,370 --> 03:12:27,030
No, I'm not a cheater.

5303
03:12:27,150 --> 03:12:28,330
It doesn't make any sense.

5304
03:12:28,610 --> 03:12:29,630
Here's my ISO.

5305
03:12:29,630 --> 03:12:31,550
At the end of these four years, how

5306
03:12:31,550 --> 03:12:32,950
do you see our relationship?

5307
03:12:34,950 --> 03:12:35,350
Cheater.

5308
03:12:37,130 --> 03:12:37,650
All right.

5309
03:12:37,670 --> 03:12:38,530
Let's just go with yours.

5310
03:12:38,590 --> 03:12:39,530
You know that you're going to win.

5311
03:12:39,910 --> 03:12:41,790
The game is not even fun anymore.

5312
03:12:42,390 --> 03:12:43,470
Well, I'll tell you this.

5313
03:12:43,890 --> 03:12:44,670
It's it.

5314
03:12:44,990 --> 03:12:47,030
Well, the gate, the gate, that you're probably

5315
03:12:47,030 --> 03:12:47,330
right.

5316
03:12:47,370 --> 03:12:48,850
But you could go there and try to

5317
03:12:48,850 --> 03:12:49,610
compete with these.

5318
03:12:49,710 --> 03:12:52,410
I got, I've got, I got four here.

5319
03:12:52,570 --> 03:12:54,710
Yeah, you manufactured four.

5320
03:12:55,190 --> 03:12:56,150
You made one of them.

5321
03:12:56,390 --> 03:12:57,770
One of them is an apology.

5322
03:12:57,770 --> 03:13:00,350
I use Jessica the whole time, but let's

5323
03:13:00,350 --> 03:13:00,950
play this one.

5324
03:13:01,030 --> 03:13:02,010
The ISO love.

5325
03:13:02,430 --> 03:13:03,750
I love these two guys.

5326
03:13:04,050 --> 03:13:06,150
And Adam is so handsome.

5327
03:13:07,550 --> 03:13:07,990
Huh?

5328
03:13:09,450 --> 03:13:10,770
That's my apology.

5329
03:13:14,300 --> 03:13:15,780
Yeah, no, you're going to have to work

5330
03:13:15,780 --> 03:13:17,300
a lot harder than that, son.

5331
03:13:17,580 --> 03:13:18,300
A lot harder.

5332
03:13:18,680 --> 03:13:19,280
Okay, well, there we go.

5333
03:13:19,360 --> 03:13:21,340
The ones that are possible here, just start

5334
03:13:21,340 --> 03:13:22,320
with great show.

5335
03:13:22,460 --> 03:13:24,120
How was that for a great show?

5336
03:13:25,360 --> 03:13:26,900
This is the way she cracks her voice

5337
03:13:26,900 --> 03:13:27,280
at the end.

5338
03:13:27,360 --> 03:13:28,060
This is unbelievable.

5339
03:13:28,980 --> 03:13:29,420
Yes.

5340
03:13:30,140 --> 03:13:33,720
Here we have, what's the hour, I guess.

5341
03:13:34,060 --> 03:13:35,500
I love these two guys.

5342
03:13:36,000 --> 03:13:36,900
Do another hour.

5343
03:13:37,640 --> 03:13:38,680
Oh, God.

5344
03:13:38,860 --> 03:13:40,660
Now it just becomes sickening.

5345
03:13:40,960 --> 03:13:42,140
I'm sick to my stomach.

5346
03:13:42,320 --> 03:13:43,700
Well, I stayed with the same voice.

5347
03:13:43,860 --> 03:13:44,520
You make me nauseous.

5348
03:13:44,540 --> 03:13:45,820
She's got a sickening voice.

5349
03:13:45,960 --> 03:13:46,920
You make me nauseous.

5350
03:13:47,500 --> 03:13:48,280
Over and by.

5351
03:13:48,480 --> 03:13:50,120
No agenda is over today.

5352
03:13:50,680 --> 03:13:51,080
Bye-bye.

5353
03:13:52,060 --> 03:13:53,500
See, now they just suck.

5354
03:13:54,320 --> 03:13:55,600
They're just no good.

5355
03:13:56,380 --> 03:13:57,580
They're all great.

5356
03:13:57,680 --> 03:13:58,440
They're no good.

5357
03:13:58,440 --> 03:13:59,700
Well, I'm not going to tell you which

5358
03:13:59,700 --> 03:14:00,520
one I'm going to use.

5359
03:14:00,880 --> 03:14:02,240
I'm just going to grab one at random

5360
03:14:02,240 --> 03:14:04,500
because they're all fake, phony, fake news.

5361
03:14:04,640 --> 03:14:06,020
And now it's time for the one and

5362
03:14:06,020 --> 03:14:08,180
only real news of John's tip of the

5363
03:14:08,180 --> 03:14:08,660
day.

5364
03:14:18,040 --> 03:14:25,620
Okay, so this is a top-rated cleaning

5365
03:14:25,620 --> 03:14:26,120
product.

5366
03:14:26,120 --> 03:14:28,620
This is going back because Mimi came up

5367
03:14:28,620 --> 03:14:29,060
with this one.

5368
03:14:29,160 --> 03:14:30,940
She's irked that she never knew about it

5369
03:14:30,940 --> 03:14:31,280
before.

5370
03:14:32,020 --> 03:14:34,300
Up in Port Angeles, we have hard water.

5371
03:14:34,400 --> 03:14:36,940
And anyone who has hard water knows that

5372
03:14:36,940 --> 03:14:39,800
toilet bowl cleaning is like impossible.

5373
03:14:39,960 --> 03:14:41,820
Don't you have a salt dispenser?

5374
03:14:42,040 --> 03:14:42,660
Like one of those.

5375
03:14:42,740 --> 03:14:43,780
We have this here in Texas.

5376
03:14:45,540 --> 03:14:47,220
With this hard water, we don't have a

5377
03:14:47,220 --> 03:14:49,080
water softener, if that's what you're talking about.

5378
03:14:49,080 --> 03:14:50,420
Yes, we call it the salt.

5379
03:14:51,020 --> 03:14:51,720
Yeah, water softener.

5380
03:14:51,720 --> 03:14:57,060
So cleaning certain things is difficult.

5381
03:14:57,260 --> 03:15:00,000
But if you can imagine a product that's

5382
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:06,000
the number one top-rated, 70,000 reviews

5383
03:15:06,000 --> 03:15:09,820
on Amazon, 70,000 reviews on Amazon, all

5384
03:15:09,820 --> 03:15:11,020
five stars.

5385
03:15:11,220 --> 03:15:12,660
All AI and phony.

5386
03:15:13,400 --> 03:15:13,680
No.

5387
03:15:14,580 --> 03:15:17,200
She says this stuff's unbelievable.

5388
03:15:18,920 --> 03:15:21,320
Of course, it should be because it's hypochloric

5389
03:15:21,320 --> 03:15:21,640
acid.

5390
03:15:21,640 --> 03:15:23,700
It's very dangerous, but it's a hell of

5391
03:15:23,700 --> 03:15:24,300
a cleaner.

5392
03:15:24,500 --> 03:15:26,020
So can you clean your coffee pot with

5393
03:15:26,020 --> 03:15:26,160
it?

5394
03:15:26,220 --> 03:15:26,680
Will that help?

5395
03:15:27,080 --> 03:15:31,080
If you wash it out thoroughly, probably no

5396
03:15:31,080 --> 03:15:31,400
problem.

5397
03:15:31,520 --> 03:15:33,480
But toilet bowl cleaner from Lysol.

5398
03:15:33,580 --> 03:15:34,840
It's a Lysol product.

5399
03:15:34,980 --> 03:15:38,980
Lysol toilet bowl cleaner, maximum strength, bathroom cleaning.

5400
03:15:39,520 --> 03:15:41,780
It's $3 and something.

5401
03:15:41,900 --> 03:15:43,360
It's dirt cheap.

5402
03:15:43,700 --> 03:15:46,880
And it's got nothing but fabulous reviews.

5403
03:15:47,060 --> 03:15:48,720
This is the product to get for cleaning

5404
03:15:48,720 --> 03:15:49,720
toilet bowls.

5405
03:15:50,460 --> 03:15:53,020
Especially most of the countries got hard water,

5406
03:15:53,140 --> 03:15:54,280
and this is the stuff you want.

5407
03:15:56,670 --> 03:15:59,490
Here in Texas, we just use Dawn soap

5408
03:15:59,490 --> 03:16:00,870
for everything, John.

5409
03:16:01,170 --> 03:16:02,630
We use Dawn soap.

5410
03:16:02,890 --> 03:16:03,330
We kill our...

5411
03:16:03,330 --> 03:16:04,610
You'd be using a lot of Dawn soap.

5412
03:16:04,670 --> 03:16:06,210
We kill our wasps with it.

5413
03:16:06,310 --> 03:16:08,750
We kill our red ants with it.

5414
03:16:08,970 --> 03:16:12,530
And we deter the illegal aliens with it.

5415
03:16:12,610 --> 03:16:15,670
We don't need no fancy baloney 70,000

5416
03:16:15,670 --> 03:16:17,170
review stuff here in Texas.

5417
03:16:18,250 --> 03:16:19,370
We had a fire.

5418
03:16:19,470 --> 03:16:20,770
We put it out with Dawn soap.

5419
03:16:21,610 --> 03:16:24,270
Yeah, well, that probably does work in Texas.

5420
03:16:24,410 --> 03:16:27,410
But anyway, there's Lysol toilet bowl cleaner.

5421
03:16:27,530 --> 03:16:28,850
Lysol toilet bowl cleaner.

5422
03:16:28,930 --> 03:16:30,550
Ladies and gentlemen, can we get any higher

5423
03:16:30,550 --> 03:16:30,990
than that?

5424
03:16:31,090 --> 03:16:32,210
Oh, we're so highbrow.

5425
03:16:32,330 --> 03:16:34,070
Go to tipoftheday.net to find all of

5426
03:16:34,070 --> 03:16:35,350
John's tips of the day.

5427
03:16:45,650 --> 03:16:47,190
The show is in the toilet.

5428
03:16:49,350 --> 03:16:52,470
Oh, yeah, I'm full of them.

5429
03:16:53,170 --> 03:16:53,590
I don't know.

5430
03:16:53,710 --> 03:16:56,450
I'm still bummed about these fake ISOs.

5431
03:16:56,510 --> 03:16:57,890
It kind of ruins the game.

5432
03:16:59,310 --> 03:17:01,070
I'm not feeling good about it, John.

5433
03:17:02,290 --> 03:17:03,970
You shouldn't feel good about it either.

5434
03:17:04,530 --> 03:17:05,830
I feel great about it.

5435
03:17:05,970 --> 03:17:07,090
Yeah, typical.

5436
03:17:07,930 --> 03:17:12,270
Hey, coming up next on noagendastream.com, trollroom

5437
03:17:12,270 --> 03:17:13,850
.io, or if you're listening on one of

5438
03:17:13,850 --> 03:17:16,110
those modern podcast apps, we've got Everything's an

5439
03:17:16,110 --> 03:17:16,630
Argument.

5440
03:17:16,630 --> 03:17:18,650
This is the isms episode.

5441
03:17:18,790 --> 03:17:20,830
This is Midas and his daughter Layla.

5442
03:17:21,750 --> 03:17:23,950
And they argue, which is kind of fun

5443
03:17:23,950 --> 03:17:24,530
to listen to.

5444
03:17:24,790 --> 03:17:27,210
They are, and they're podcasting 2.0 compatible

5445
03:17:27,210 --> 03:17:28,450
all the way, so boost them.

5446
03:17:28,570 --> 03:17:29,070
Boost them big.

5447
03:17:29,730 --> 03:17:31,970
Also, end of show mixes from Jesse Coy

5448
03:17:31,970 --> 03:17:35,030
Nelson, Professor Jay Jones, and David Kector with

5449
03:17:35,030 --> 03:17:38,610
a live drum of aluminium, which we forgot

5450
03:17:38,610 --> 03:17:39,270
to talk about.

5451
03:17:39,590 --> 03:17:40,730
Coming to you from the heart of the

5452
03:17:40,730 --> 03:17:44,130
Texas Hill Country, right here in somewhat scorched

5453
03:17:44,130 --> 03:17:47,430
Fredericksburg in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

5454
03:17:47,610 --> 03:17:50,010
And from Northern Silicon Valley, is it supposed

5455
03:17:50,010 --> 03:17:50,570
to rain?

5456
03:17:50,810 --> 03:17:51,990
I can't tell.

5457
03:17:52,370 --> 03:17:52,830
I'm John C.

5458
03:17:52,910 --> 03:17:53,330
Dvorak.

5459
03:17:53,410 --> 03:17:55,250
We'll be back on Thursday with more media

5460
03:17:55,250 --> 03:17:56,690
deconstruction just for you.

5461
03:17:56,870 --> 03:17:58,650
Tune in and fix your amygdala.

5462
03:17:58,770 --> 03:17:59,510
We're happy to help.

5463
03:17:59,610 --> 03:18:02,010
And remember us at noagendadonations.com.

5464
03:18:02,290 --> 03:18:07,170
Until Thursday, adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and

5465
03:18:07,170 --> 03:18:07,770
such.

5466
03:18:14,970 --> 03:18:16,970
It's a memo that describes how we're going

5467
03:18:16,970 --> 03:18:19,770
to take out seven countries in five years.

5468
03:18:24,970 --> 03:18:27,030
When I first came to office, one of

5469
03:18:27,030 --> 03:18:29,130
the first meetings I had was at the

5470
03:18:29,130 --> 03:18:30,530
Pentagon with generals.

5471
03:18:31,350 --> 03:18:34,070
Evil minds that plot destruction.

5472
03:18:36,170 --> 03:18:38,630
Bolton has always said, let's go to war,

5473
03:18:38,710 --> 03:18:40,170
but he's not the one who's going to

5474
03:18:40,170 --> 03:18:40,910
go in the forefront.

5475
03:18:41,190 --> 03:18:41,870
He's a coward.

5476
03:18:43,270 --> 03:18:45,450
Sorcerer of death's construction.

5477
03:18:47,410 --> 03:18:49,890
The leaders of Iran are racketeers.

5478
03:18:50,130 --> 03:18:52,330
Behind every problem is Iran.

5479
03:18:55,770 --> 03:18:58,130
I love what you said in 2016.

5480
03:18:58,270 --> 03:18:59,510
I liked it when you said, no more

5481
03:18:59,510 --> 03:19:00,170
stupid wars.

5482
03:19:01,610 --> 03:19:04,050
We've got a rogue president in the White

5483
03:19:04,050 --> 03:19:07,430
House surrounded by these uber-hawks that thirst

5484
03:19:07,430 --> 03:19:09,190
for another war with Iran.

5485
03:19:09,390 --> 03:19:10,550
We don't need no war.

5486
03:19:11,050 --> 03:19:14,170
The International Atomic Energy Agency has never found

5487
03:19:14,170 --> 03:19:17,530
Iran in contravention of stipulations in the deal.

5488
03:19:17,730 --> 03:19:19,050
We don't need no war.

5489
03:19:19,570 --> 03:19:21,930
If Iran wants to fight, that will be

5490
03:19:21,930 --> 03:19:23,710
the official end of Iran.

5491
03:19:23,910 --> 03:19:26,630
Never threaten the United States again.

5492
03:19:26,830 --> 03:19:28,790
I'm not somebody that wants to go into

5493
03:19:28,790 --> 03:19:29,130
war.

5494
03:19:29,130 --> 03:19:33,070
In the United States, heading towards another Middle

5495
03:19:33,070 --> 03:19:35,330
East showdown, this time with Iran.

5496
03:19:43,070 --> 03:19:45,690
And he says the ball, the ball is

5497
03:19:45,690 --> 03:19:46,690
in Putin's court.

5498
03:19:46,950 --> 03:19:48,430
But what does ball in court mean?

5499
03:19:48,730 --> 03:19:50,630
You can't be serious, man.

5500
03:19:50,690 --> 03:19:52,370
There is no such thing as a ball

5501
03:19:52,370 --> 03:19:53,050
in a court.

5502
03:19:53,290 --> 03:19:56,630
It means the responsibility is now yours.

5503
03:19:57,290 --> 03:19:59,410
But you can't be serious, man.

5504
03:19:59,470 --> 03:20:02,190
Origin and meaning really became popular in the

5505
03:20:02,190 --> 03:20:05,010
1970s around the time that Billie Jean came

5506
03:20:05,010 --> 03:20:05,350
here.

5507
03:20:06,190 --> 03:20:10,330
But you can't be serious, man.

5508
03:20:10,510 --> 03:20:11,590
And I asked Billie Jean.

5509
03:20:11,830 --> 03:20:14,170
But what do you mean I am the

5510
03:20:14,170 --> 03:20:14,450
one?

5511
03:20:14,770 --> 03:20:16,570
But you can't be serious, man.

5512
03:20:17,590 --> 03:20:19,250
Get the ball out of here.

5513
03:20:19,810 --> 03:20:21,110
That phrase has always bugged me.

5514
03:20:21,630 --> 03:20:24,090
And I asked Billie Jean.

5515
03:20:24,170 --> 03:20:25,670
Who would dance on the floor?

5516
03:20:25,670 --> 03:20:27,390
The ball is in her court.

5517
03:20:27,770 --> 03:20:31,430
The European security order is being shaken.

5518
03:20:32,270 --> 03:20:34,510
And so many of our illusions.

5519
03:20:40,940 --> 03:20:42,300
After the end of the Cold War, some

5520
03:20:42,300 --> 03:20:45,560
believed that Russia could be integrated in Europe's

5521
03:20:45,560 --> 03:20:47,180
economic and security architecture.

5522
03:20:51,060 --> 03:20:54,000
In danger, an escalation in President Trump's trade

5523
03:20:54,000 --> 03:20:54,220
war.

5524
03:20:54,360 --> 03:20:56,720
The President now firing back at the retaliation

5525
03:20:56,720 --> 03:20:59,640
in Europe of what he just posted.

5526
03:20:59,820 --> 03:21:01,640
Quote, the European Union has just put a

5527
03:21:01,640 --> 03:21:07,100
nasty 50% tariff on whisky, placed a

5528
03:21:07,100 --> 03:21:24,420
200% tariff on all whisky.

5529
03:21:24,640 --> 03:21:28,830
Al-Qaida number 50.

5530
03:21:29,130 --> 03:21:33,730
The British love calling it Al-Qaida.

5531
03:21:33,910 --> 03:21:35,830
Al, you've been on Trump's lorries.

5532
03:21:36,430 --> 03:21:38,090
And the lorries just came to the market.

5533
03:21:38,230 --> 03:21:39,090
It seems to be on alert.

5534
03:21:43,130 --> 03:21:47,110
The best podcast in the universe.

5535
03:21:47,470 --> 03:21:48,810
Adios, mofo.

5536
03:21:49,090 --> 03:21:52,330
Dvorak.org slash N-A.

5537
03:21:52,470 --> 03:21:53,990
I love these two guys.

5538
03:21:54,250 --> 03:21:56,250
And Adam is so handsome.