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Is this like Usenet?

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Adam Curry, John C.

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DeVora.

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It's Sunday, December 1st, 2024.

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This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation Media

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Assassination Episode 1717.

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This is no agenda.

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Busting the new boss and broadcasting live from

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the heart of the Texas Hill Country here

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in Fever Region Number 6 in the morning,

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everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry.

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And from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody's gone

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nuts over Kash Patel.

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I'm John C.

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DeVorax.

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It's Greg Vaughn and Buzzkill.

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In the morning.

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Hey, I've noticed this.

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What does anybody care?

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They've gone nuts.

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Hey, did you notice the language that Trump

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used?

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He didn't say, I will be appointing him.

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He said, he will be serving.

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He has to be president before he has

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to fire Ray first, doesn't he?

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Ray already said he's going to quit.

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Oh, he did say he's going to quit.

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All right.

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Is this another let's all go crazy and

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look at Kash Patel while the deputy director...

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Something else is going on?

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While something good is going on?

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Yeah, really.

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While the deputy director, is it really going

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to be the person taking care of everything?

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I think Kash Patel can do it.

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He's got the background and the chops to

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do it.

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They say he doesn't have any qualifications.

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The guy...

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Wasn't he in the Department of Defense?

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Didn't he do all kinds of stuff?

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He's over the place.

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He's an Intel guy, but he's not...

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If you look at, you know, I tried

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to play spot the spook by going over

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his wiki page.

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And you end up with him being...

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What is it where you're...

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Affiliate where you're next to, but you're not

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part of, you're affiliated with.

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There's a term that we've used.

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Associated?

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Adjacent.

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Adjacent.

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Spook adjacent.

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This is a new kind of guy.

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There's spook adjacents.

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Let me see.

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Anyway, so he's made public comments.

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He's always kind of lined up for this

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job.

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And his whole thing is going to be

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to shut down the FBI headquarters in Washington,

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D.C. Yeah, exactly.

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He's the move over guy.

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He's going to assist with the move.

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Get the 7,000 employees out of D

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.C. What are you doing there?

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And move them to Kansas City where the

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rent is cheaper.

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The cost of living is lower.

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And you can actually go do some work.

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And everyone's making a big fuss.

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So people are going to quit.

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Of course, a lot of people will be

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quitting because they don't want to leave Washington,

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D.C. Right.

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And that doesn't mean they're quitting because of

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him.

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And then a lot of them will be

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quitting because of him.

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And the real hard ass guys are probably

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really good cops will be staying.

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And it'll be interesting if he gets in.

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I mean, they're making a huge fuss over

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this guy.

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Well, I mean, it's I have a report.

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TDS is like, oh, something's going on.

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Let's make a fuss.

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Do you know that I had since the

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election, I had probably three different friend text

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groups.

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That's what you do these days.

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And Tina, of course, had the the church

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ladies text group.

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They have virtually gone silent.

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I mean, it seems like our entire relationship

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was based upon Kamala Harris being unqualified.

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time the text group spark up is, well,

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look at this guy.

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It is uncanny.

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You can set your alarm clock by it.

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I don't even know what you're talking about.

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What do you mean?

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You don't know any text group.

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You're OK.

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Bring me up to speed, buddy.

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I don't have a clue what you're talking

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about.

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OK, for probably just like usenet.

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It's exactly like usenet only in your pocket,

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John.

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People have left social networks and they are

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now in text groups.

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It's a very common thing.

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I'd say maybe 20 years, but I'll let

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you slide 15.

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It's just what people do.

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They have their own.

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You have a text group and then you

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you text.

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You have your own little like your own

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little chat thing going on.

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You weren't aware of this.

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Oh, I have a bunch of people that

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I send text to and they send text

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to me here and there.

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a meeting or it's not a group that

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everybody's on the same list.

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out as a broadcast.

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You have to have friends to be included.

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I don't know if I need friends.

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OK, well, there you go.

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So let's let's play Cash Patel NPR.

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All right.

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President elect Donald Trump has nominated former prosecutor

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and attorney Cash Patel to serve as the

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next director of the FBI.

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Patel has been an outspoken critic of the

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bureau and is called for shutting down the

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agency's Washington headquarters and firing its top leadership.

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In a post on social media, Trump called

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Patel a brilliant lawyer, investigator and, quote, America's

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first fighter.

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If confirmed, Cash would replace Christopher Wray as

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the director of the FBI.

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Yeah, well, that's a very generic overview.

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So we go right to CNN.

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Yes, there we go.

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I guess we end up with who they

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bring in as their analyst, Andrew McCabe.

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Andrew, I just want to start first with

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you and just get your reaction to this

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news tonight.

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for men and women of the FBI.

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It depends on a highly functioning, professional, independent

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Federal Bureau of Investigation.

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The fact that Cash Patel is profoundly unqualified

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for this job is not even like a

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It's not even like a matter for debate.

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what does.

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I can't even believe it.

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That laugh sniffle.

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That is just.

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That's a good one.

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That is such a.

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I didn't catch it myself, but it's such

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a tell.

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Like, how could he even show his nose

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around the parties in D.C.? So I

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think what we should what we should really

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be thinking about right now is what does

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this signal in terms of Donald Trump's intent

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for the FBI?

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The installation or the nomination, I guess we

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should say at this point of Kash Patel's

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FBI director can only possibly be a plan

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to disrupt, to dismantle, to distract the FBI

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and to possibly use it as a tool

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for the president's political agenda.

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what that what that looks like.

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This country has been there before, right?

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The pre Watergate FBI, the J.

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Edgar Hoover FBI struck fear in the hearts

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of Americans across the spectrum of politicians, people

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in entertainment, people in the civil rights community

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because the director operated at the direction of

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presidents to collect political intelligence and to utilize

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the legal authorities, the investigative authorities of the

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FBI to terrorize and intimidate Americans.

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going back to with this nomination?

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I would argue that Kash Patel would be

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the perfect person for Donald Trump to nominate

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if that's in fact his intent for the

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FBI.

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Wow, this is great.

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He's taken us back to the Red Scare.

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No, he's not.

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But he he he he rewrote history because

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it was it was FBI director J.

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Edgar Hoover who pushed around the president's not

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the other way around.

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Until the pictures of him in the dress

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came up.

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Which turned out to be not true.

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Well, you know what?

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At this point.

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Well, this guy, this McCabe guy should he

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should have been canceled completely from these shows.

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But why does CNN bring?

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He's not an objective observer.

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He's the guy with the insurance policy.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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You take CNN.

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I'm OK.

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I know what's going on.

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I mean, seriously, this is you know, this

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interview was seen by dozens and dozens of

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people on CNN dozens.

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I tell you that I tell you.

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Well, let's look at some other nominees.

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An old friend is back.

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CNBC, who I believe, you know, they're I

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don't know how their ratings go.

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I don't see NBC.

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No, they're just a bunch of.

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They it's a solid.

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It's a small audience, but it's a very

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important audience.

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It's not people.

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Solid, solid, steady audience of people who want

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to be told to buy.

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That's all that is always by.

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look at inverse Jim Cramer, because whatever Jim

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Cramer says, do the opposite.

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Buy.

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Buy more.

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Jim Cramer literally at ninety nine thousand dollars

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a bitcoin said you need to buy.

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And it went straight down the 90.

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That's why Horowitz shorted it.

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He knows he knows the Jim Cramer curse.

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He knows.

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Anyway, I'm talking about Big Pharma.

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Who's our guy that comes back on the

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Squawk Box on CNBC?

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Come on now.

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Yes, Scott.

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Yes.

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There has been a lot of big news

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in health care over the last few days.

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President Joe Biden proposing expanding Medicare and Medicaid

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to cover obesity drugs.

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That's a move that could impact millions of

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Americans.

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Meantime, president elect Donald Trump has made all

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of his picks for the health related team.

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And joining us right now to talk about

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all of this and what it means to

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the sector is Dr. Scott Gottlieb.

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Of course, he is the former FDA commissioner

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under the last Trump administration.

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He's also a CNBC contributor.

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And Scott, you're still a board member of

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Pfizer.

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That's right.

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OK.

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And a board member at Pfizer board member

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at Pfizer.

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Now, before you play the rest of this

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clip, let's let's remind people something that is

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not being brought up by anybody.

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But I'm going to bring it up.

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And once you hear it, then, of course,

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you want to bring it up, too, which

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is that we have to always remember that

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it was Pfizer and Borla who held back

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the news that the vaccine was done and

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ready to go.

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And during Covid and the warp speed project

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that Trump was so proud of.

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And they pulled the information and left it

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until after the election to screw over Trump.

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Trump who supposedly has these grudges.

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He has to have a huge grudge against

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Pfizer.

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And nobody's bringing this up.

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Scott Gottlieb is not bringing it up.

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And he knows he and Pfizer is a

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target.

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And Kennedy's getting in by hook or crook.

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Yeah, he's going to open up the vaults.

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It's a Rico case.

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It's all coming out.

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And president elect Trump should be thanking Scott

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Gottlieb and Borla on his knees.

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Yeah, well, because that's a twist that was

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unexpected.

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And he's really keen.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's beside the point.

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I'm just trying to screw him over.

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They did.

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Let's go.

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Let's jump into this.

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And why don't we start with.

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Let's dive into this, shall we?

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With the incoming administration's choices, because there's been

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a lot of consternation, a lot of people

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who have said, wait a second with RFK

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Jr. Heading things up.

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What do you say?

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Well, I have deep concerns about Kennedy's stated

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intentions to roll back core public health protections,

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particularly as it relates to childhood vaccines.

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He's brought in a very experienced team, a

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lot of lawyers from the Children's Defense Fund,

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which is his anti-vax organization.

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These guys.

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Wow.

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He calls that an anti-vax organization right

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there, right there.

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The CNN lady or the CNBC lady should

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have said they do a lot more than

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that, don't they?

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I mean, they're not just anti-vax.

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In fact, they're not anti-vax.

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They are pro.

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No, they're not at all.

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Yeah.

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No, this is a lie.

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He said a lie on CNBC.

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She didn't get.

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Of course, what do you expect from NBC

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News?

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They're taking $500,000 bribes.

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And what's his name still on the air?

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Al Sharpton.

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Al Sharpton, yes.

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And so it's a corrupt organization.

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It's corrupt.

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The whole thing is corrupt.

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I can't believe that they're still.

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I mean, she pulled the plug.

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It's amazing.

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They're still on the air.

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Cut the cable.

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Cut the cable.

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Very experienced team, a lot of lawyers from

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the Children's Defense Fund, which is his anti

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-vax organization.

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There's no license for cable.

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These guys are capable.

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I think they're deadly serious.

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They've been very clear about their intentions.

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And I think sometimes you have to take

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people at their word.

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And just to sort of level set where

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we are right now, we had 5,000

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cases of pertussis last year.

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We're going to have 30,000 cases this

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year.

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Pregnant women for the first time in a

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very long time now need to think about.

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Time to buy pertussis.

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I hear it's going.

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I hear it's skyrocketing.

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Pregnant women for the first time in a

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very long time now need to think about

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pertussis as a risk during pregnancy.

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And if you look at vaccination rates for

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MMR, there are states that really are the

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tipping point in terms of reduced vaccination rates.

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Herd immunity is achieved at a level of

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about 95 percent coverage.

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If you look at Idaho, it's at 79

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percent.

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You look at Alaska and Wisconsin, 84 percent.

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Hold on.

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Hold on.

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Herd immunity.

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This is I think this is a little

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contradiction in terms here.

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He says herd immunity is achieved at 90

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percent vaccination rate.

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First of all, what we've always been told

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and what is now there's a lot of

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backpedaling on.

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Well, vaccines, you know, they kind of work,

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but only works if everybody has them because

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they're not really 100 percent effective.

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And herd immunity, the way I've always understood

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it was if you've had the infection.

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And if 95 percent of the people have

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had the infection now, herd immunity is being

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pushed into vaccination status.

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Am I missing this?

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Am I misreading this?

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No, I don't think you are, but I

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think they've tried to.

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They're moving the goalposts around.

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And also like 60.

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It was supposed to be 60 or 65

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percent.

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Now it's 95 percent.

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You achieve herd immunity.

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I was always under the impression that if

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you had a disease that had and you.

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Yes.

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You start vaccinating people like I would say

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smallpox.

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Right.

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You get it down so low that it

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can't be really transmitted much because these people

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that were vaccinated won't catch it and won't

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pass it along.

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Unlike the covid shot, which doesn't do anything.

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All right.

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We continue.

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Pregnant women for the first time in a

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very long time now need to think about

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pertussis as a risk during pregnancy.

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And if you look at vaccination rates for

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MMR, there are states that really are the

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tipping point in terms of reduced vaccination rates.

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Herd immunity is achieved at a level of

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about 95 percent coverage.

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If you look at Idaho, it's at 79

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percent.

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You look at Alaska and Wisconsin, 84 percent,

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Minnesota, 87 percent, Florida, Colorado, Oklahoma, Georgia and

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Utah at 88 percent.

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When I was at FDA in 2018, 2019,

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all those states were in the low 90s.

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If we lose another 5 percent, we're going

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to be in a position where we see

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distributed outbreaks of measles.

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And that could easily happen in the next

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few years.

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Measles.

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Yes, measles.

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We're all going to die from the measles.

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We have to remember 12 years ago, there

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was.

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A series of for about a year, all

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we heard was about measles, and it was

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on the TV shows I had, I actually

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ran a series of clips back then, measles

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caused by measles.

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And it was like law and order done.

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And so, oh, what's happened is she died

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by measles.

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Well, she didn't.

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Your kid didn't get a shot.

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So there we have to sue her because

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the other kid got measles and died.

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Remember these stories?

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Yeah, this is what they're aiming for.

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Well, let me talk about the percentages here

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for a moment.

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Because Sir Chris, the level of knowledge in

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our producer base, you and I even had

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an email, quick email exchange about this.

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The level of sophistication of information on certain

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very specific topics in our producer base is

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sometimes scary.

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Drill downs, yeah.

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I mean, we really have people who know

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their stuff.

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So listen to this.

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I want to send you a note about

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incentive payments paid to pediatricians for giving vaccines

520
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to their patients.

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As we had this conversation, I said, I

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don't think they're given specific incentives.

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Well, Sir Chris sets me straight.

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You mentioned in episode 1715 that you didn't

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think that pediatricians were given bonuses.

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But I can assure you they absolutely are

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bonused based on the percentage of patients that

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receive various treatments.

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These are often called physician group incentive programs

530
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or the less transactional sounding value partnerships.

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For pediatricians specifically, I like a value partnership.

532
00:17:21,339 --> 00:17:22,780
Value partnership sounds good.

533
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For pediatricians specifically, Blue Cross Blue Shield of

534
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Michigan in 2016, pediatricians can receive a $400

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payment per eligible patient.

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If the percentage of children who have had

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the following immunizations by their second birthday exceeds

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80%.

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I'll just go through the list.

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It's diphtheria, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, hep B,

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HIV, hemophilius influenza type B, varicella, zoster virus,

542
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the pneumococcal conjugate vaccine, hep A, rotavirus and

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influenza, the flu vaccine.

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The percentage based calculation is the nefarious part

545
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and why pediatricians will kick patients out of

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their practice.

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That's so they can keep their percentage up.

548
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Yes, if you have 100 patients and only

549
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79 of them are meeting the metrics, you

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can kick one that isn't out of the

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practice and magically exceed the 80% threshold.

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So when he's talking about thresholds here, this

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is a signal.

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This is a signal to a whole bunch

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of people whose income is based on this.

556
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Oh, yeah, it's 70%.

557
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Well, we're not going to get our bonuses.

558
00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,420
Imagine you've got a thousand kids in your

559
00:18:41,420 --> 00:18:45,280
practice, 400 bucks per patient.

560
00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:48,560
That's golf dues right there.

561
00:18:50,980 --> 00:18:53,160
Now, I believe his wife is a pediatrician.

562
00:18:53,220 --> 00:18:54,480
I think that's where he got this information.

563
00:18:56,820 --> 00:18:59,720
If he said that, I took that out

564
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,420
of the show notes.

565
00:19:01,620 --> 00:19:02,540
I'd have to look that up.

566
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:03,540
He has background.

567
00:19:03,940 --> 00:19:06,080
He has credibility for this.

568
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,200
Yeah, I completely believe it.

569
00:19:08,260 --> 00:19:09,120
I completely believe it.

570
00:19:09,340 --> 00:19:12,160
So this is part of the money-making

571
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:12,480
scheme.

572
00:19:12,780 --> 00:19:13,480
This is a scandal.

573
00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,620
Where's the mainstream media on this kind of

574
00:19:15,620 --> 00:19:15,860
thing?

575
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,340
This is scandalous.

576
00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:18,040
He's sitting right there.

577
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:18,660
This should be illegal.

578
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,480
Put Kennedy in.

579
00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:23,040
He's sitting right there at CNBC, the mainstream

580
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:23,540
media.

581
00:19:23,540 --> 00:19:25,580
Let's talk about the roadmaps.

582
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,580
But you warned about this.

583
00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:28,840
When you were at the FDA, you said

584
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,400
because of vaccine hesitancy in this country, because

585
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,380
of concerns about the COVID vaccine, you worried

586
00:19:35,380 --> 00:19:37,240
about what that would mean for all of

587
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,740
these other related diseases and the vaccines that

588
00:19:39,740 --> 00:19:40,200
we have.

589
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,660
Which vaccines should we be getting and which

590
00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:44,180
should we not?

591
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,080
Because RFK Jr. has softened his stance.

592
00:19:46,140 --> 00:19:46,920
If you go back and look at what

593
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,580
he said back to 2013, he talked about

594
00:19:49,580 --> 00:19:52,580
how vaccinating children and trying to cover up

595
00:19:52,580 --> 00:19:54,320
any problems from it is he likened it

596
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,400
to abuse by the Catholic Church, sexual abuse

597
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:56,940
of children.

598
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,520
He said that what the CDC was doing.

599
00:19:59,540 --> 00:20:00,360
Do we have that clip?

600
00:20:00,460 --> 00:20:01,720
I missed that clip.

601
00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:03,700
I didn't hear that, but it's good.

602
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:04,720
I need to find that one.

603
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,820
To abuse by the Catholic Church, sexual abuse

604
00:20:06,820 --> 00:20:07,300
of children.

605
00:20:07,860 --> 00:20:10,000
He said that what the CDC was doing

606
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,200
in 2019 with COVID vaccines was vaccine.

607
00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:14,640
He's talked about jailing vaccine scientists in the

608
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:14,980
past.

609
00:20:15,580 --> 00:20:17,320
Good point from the troll room.

610
00:20:18,660 --> 00:20:23,060
His history with vaccines specifically was using mercury

611
00:20:23,060 --> 00:20:24,240
as an adjuvant.

612
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,600
That's always been his case.

613
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,440
That's how he got interested in vaccines.

614
00:20:28,740 --> 00:20:30,880
I don't think mercury was ever used as

615
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,360
an adjuvant.

616
00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:32,800
It was used as a preservative.

617
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,880
No, I think it's used as an adjuvant.

618
00:20:35,940 --> 00:20:36,040
No.

619
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:36,480
Yes.

620
00:20:36,580 --> 00:20:36,920
No.

621
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:37,420
Yes.

622
00:20:37,580 --> 00:20:37,680
No.

623
00:20:37,780 --> 00:20:38,080
Yes.

624
00:20:38,580 --> 00:20:39,040
Preservative.

625
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:41,700
Mercury.

626
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,360
Let's ask Chad GPT, because I trust that.

627
00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:46,260
They're going to tell you nothing.

628
00:20:46,260 --> 00:20:47,800
I trust that more than anything.

629
00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:48,600
Let's see.

630
00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:49,760
I believe.

631
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,700
No, I really do believe.

632
00:20:51,860 --> 00:20:52,780
I do believe.

633
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:53,320
Hold on a second.

634
00:20:53,340 --> 00:20:54,340
You can believe all you want.

635
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:54,960
Does it help?

636
00:20:55,620 --> 00:20:58,360
Yeah, because I remember us only calling it

637
00:20:58,360 --> 00:20:59,360
a preservative.

638
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:06,700
Is mercury used as an adjuvant in vaccines?

639
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,060
Isn't it fun listening to me type?

640
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:09,320
Okay, here we go.

641
00:21:09,860 --> 00:21:10,180
No.

642
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:10,740
Mercury.

643
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,000
This thing is wrong, obviously.

644
00:21:12,260 --> 00:21:13,140
Screw Chad GPT.

645
00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:13,580
Okay.

646
00:21:17,420 --> 00:21:17,820
Thimerosal.

647
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,860
That's what I'm thinking of.

648
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,600
Thimerosal.

649
00:21:19,860 --> 00:21:21,140
Yeah, that's a preservative.

650
00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:23,840
Okay, let's continue.

651
00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:25,060
Scientists in the past.

652
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,480
Now he sounds a little less strident in

653
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,740
some of the comments that he's making, but

654
00:21:29,740 --> 00:21:30,320
you don't believe him.

655
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,640
Well, I don't think he's less strident.

656
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,060
Look, this is a post-COVID environment.

657
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,100
No question about it.

658
00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:36,200
And I was against the mandates.

659
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,000
We talked about this on this show.

660
00:21:38,020 --> 00:21:39,920
I was against the COVID vaccine mandates because

661
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:40,760
I worried that it would.

662
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,780
This was baffling to me.

663
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:43,440
This is a post-COVID environment.

664
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:43,560
This is a post-COVID environment.

665
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,680
This is bull crap.

666
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,740
I don't ever remember Scott Gop...

667
00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:47,600
Gop-leap.

668
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:49,520
Ever.

669
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:50,500
Gop-leap.

670
00:21:50,820 --> 00:21:53,880
I don't remember him ever being against mandates.

671
00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:55,620
He never said anything about it.

672
00:21:55,620 --> 00:21:56,400
He's full of it.

673
00:21:56,420 --> 00:21:58,200
We followed this guy pretty closely.

674
00:21:58,360 --> 00:21:59,980
This is a post-COVID environment.

675
00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:01,020
No question about it.

676
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,100
And I was against the mandates.

677
00:22:02,220 --> 00:22:03,980
We talked about this on this show.

678
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,820
I was against the COVID vaccine mandates because

679
00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:07,960
I worried that it would breed vaccine hesitancy.

680
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,900
I think what you're seeing now is people

681
00:22:09,900 --> 00:22:12,520
coming into the political spectrum, preying on that.

682
00:22:12,980 --> 00:22:13,540
And they're going to be more and more

683
00:22:13,540 --> 00:22:13,640
concerned about the vaccine.

684
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,640
they're deadly serious about the policies they're going

685
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:15,980
to implement.

686
00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:17,280
So what could RFK do?

687
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,660
And he's committed to this.

688
00:22:18,860 --> 00:22:20,920
He's committed decades of his life to this.

689
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,120
He's not going to back away.

690
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,100
They could disband ACIP, the advisory committee to

691
00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:27,960
the CDC, and issue new recommendations that are

692
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,160
non-binding to states, giving states cover to

693
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,380
move away from the childhood immunization schedule.

694
00:22:32,860 --> 00:22:35,400
They could frustrate the Vaccines for Children's Fund,

695
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,540
which vaccinates 50% of all kids in

696
00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:37,980
the country.

697
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,980
Basically, for example, tying states that want to

698
00:22:40,980 --> 00:22:42,840
use that money to vaccinate kids to certain

699
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,860
reporting requirements, like reporting on immigration status or

700
00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:47,460
religious status for children.

701
00:22:47,860 --> 00:22:49,580
Those are easy things they could do administrative.

702
00:22:49,740 --> 00:22:51,500
Now he's just talking in hypotheticals.

703
00:22:51,540 --> 00:22:52,500
Now he's going to say they're going to

704
00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:54,560
use that to make sure you're not here

705
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,320
illegally, the way I hear him speak.

706
00:22:56,700 --> 00:22:58,280
I don't know you even hear that.

707
00:22:58,380 --> 00:23:00,000
I just hear a bunch of bullshit.

708
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,980
For example, tying states that want to use

709
00:23:02,980 --> 00:23:05,040
that money to vaccinate kids to certain reporting

710
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,900
requirements, like reporting on immigration.

711
00:23:07,020 --> 00:23:08,660
Oh yeah, if you want money after, okay,

712
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:09,240
I got it.

713
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,960
Status or religious status for children.

714
00:23:11,380 --> 00:23:13,380
Those are easy things they could do administratively,

715
00:23:13,420 --> 00:23:14,640
and that would make it very hard for

716
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,640
states to take the money.

717
00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:17,960
I'm not laying out their road map.

718
00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:19,740
They know their road map, and this is

719
00:23:19,740 --> 00:23:20,240
their road map.

720
00:23:20,340 --> 00:23:21,120
I've been in policy.

721
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,660
I know what these agencies can do, and

722
00:23:22,660 --> 00:23:23,820
I know what they intend to do.

723
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,240
I'm not saying it's their road map.

724
00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:26,460
I don't know the road map, but this

725
00:23:26,460 --> 00:23:27,140
is the road map.

726
00:23:27,260 --> 00:23:29,840
Believe me, I'm Scott Leib, Gottlieb, Gottlieb.

727
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,140
I am board member of Pfizer.

728
00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:32,760
I got a couple more quickies here.

729
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,780
Who have you spoken with in the Trump

730
00:23:34,780 --> 00:23:36,740
administration at this point, or in the incoming

731
00:23:36,740 --> 00:23:37,500
administration?

732
00:23:37,620 --> 00:23:39,300
You are somebody, again, who served in a

733
00:23:39,300 --> 00:23:40,040
Trump administration.

734
00:23:40,340 --> 00:23:41,920
What have you had to say to them

735
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,300
about this?

736
00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:43,520
Well, look, they know my views.

737
00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:44,420
I've been clear about them.

738
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,740
I've had certain conversations.

739
00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:47,920
I talked to President Trump about vaccines in

740
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:48,520
my first term.

741
00:23:48,620 --> 00:23:52,720
I don't think that these policy efforts reflect

742
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,700
his views as well.

743
00:23:53,780 --> 00:23:55,180
I don't think the president wants to see

744
00:23:55,180 --> 00:23:57,560
a resurgence of measles, wants to see a

745
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,200
resurgence of whooping cough in this country.

746
00:23:59,660 --> 00:24:01,480
God forbid we have cases of polio in

747
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:01,840
this country.

748
00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:03,080
He does not want to see that.

749
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,960
I think he understood the importance of child

750
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,140
immunization schedule.

751
00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:09,340
I'm not so sure that people really understand

752
00:24:09,340 --> 00:24:11,840
how Kennedy's intentions are going to translate into

753
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,600
policy, and how serious he is.

754
00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:15,640
There was an article recently where one of

755
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,680
his confidants, Del Bigtree, who's going to be

756
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,660
probably brought into HHS, said he didn't get

757
00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:25,740
inside the castle to forego his long-held

758
00:24:25,740 --> 00:24:26,240
beliefs.

759
00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:27,840
They're going to follow through on these.

760
00:24:28,260 --> 00:24:30,560
But his long-held beliefs are so incredibly

761
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,620
well-known that just making it up, his

762
00:24:32,620 --> 00:24:35,280
beliefs are about safe vaccines.

763
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,980
He wants the efficacy data, the safety data,

764
00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:39,220
which we all deserve.

765
00:24:39,420 --> 00:24:41,340
This is what this guy is combating here.

766
00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:44,380
And oh, one of his, Del Bigtree.

767
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,500
Okay, so fine, Del Bigtree.

768
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,540
Boo, I'm so afraid.

769
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,180
Well, you should be afraid because it's going

770
00:24:50,180 --> 00:24:51,040
to cost lives.

771
00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:52,860
RFK has to be confirmed, right?

772
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,480
Are you urging Republican senators to not confirm

773
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:57,680
him?

774
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,000
Look, I think that there's skepticism in the

775
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,900
Republican caucus, more than I think the press

776
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:03,940
is reporting right now.

777
00:25:04,020 --> 00:25:05,780
There's going to be ag state senators that

778
00:25:05,780 --> 00:25:07,860
are concerned about his impact on food prices.

779
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,380
There's going to be principled pro-lifers who

780
00:25:10,380 --> 00:25:12,300
are concerned about his positions on abortion.

781
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,680
And there's going to be a number of

782
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,600
public health-minded senators who have deep concerns

783
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,820
about his position on vaccines.

784
00:25:18,820 --> 00:25:20,300
If you were talking to a Republican senator,

785
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,120
would you say that the appointment of RFK

786
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,840
could cost lives in this country?

787
00:25:25,420 --> 00:25:27,460
I think if RFK follows through on his

788
00:25:27,460 --> 00:25:29,460
intentions, and I believe he will, and I

789
00:25:29,460 --> 00:25:31,340
believe he can, it will cost lives in

790
00:25:31,340 --> 00:25:31,720
this country.

791
00:25:31,860 --> 00:25:34,840
You're going to see measles, mumps, and rubella

792
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,360
vaccination rates go down.

793
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,200
And like I said, if we lose another

794
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,880
5 percent, which could happen in the next

795
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,380
year or two- Hold on a second,

796
00:25:41,380 --> 00:25:41,480
stop.

797
00:25:42,060 --> 00:25:44,040
He goes into his long tirade about how

798
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,780
it's going down.

799
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:48,040
So it's going down with or without Kennedy.

800
00:25:48,740 --> 00:25:49,680
So how's it going to go down?

801
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,480
So now he's contradicting himself, as far as

802
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,540
I'm concerned, the way he's presenting his logic.

803
00:25:56,340 --> 00:25:58,220
I was just looking at the Pfizer stock

804
00:25:58,220 --> 00:25:59,940
price, and now I understand why he's on

805
00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:00,560
the program.

806
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,420
I took a little dump.

807
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,440
Let me see, to be, let me see.

808
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,820
Yeah, November 5th, it really started to tank.

809
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,660
I mean, tank is what?

810
00:26:15,420 --> 00:26:18,300
Three- Well, for a company with that

811
00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:20,180
sort of market cap, it doesn't take much.

812
00:26:20,460 --> 00:26:20,560
Yeah.

813
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,920
I see measles, mumps, where tanking is moving

814
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,780
down two points.

815
00:26:24,140 --> 00:26:24,640
Well, three.

816
00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:26,380
Vaccination rates go down.

817
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,080
And like I said, if we lose another

818
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,860
5 percent, which could happen in the next

819
00:26:29,860 --> 00:26:32,040
year or two, we will see large measles

820
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:32,480
outbreaks.

821
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,520
For every 1,000 cases of measles that

822
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,580
occur in children, there will be one death.

823
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,080
And we are not good in this country

824
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,540
at diagnosing and treating measles.

825
00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:41,000
If you look at the outbreak in Ohio,

826
00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:42,200
30- Wait a minute.

827
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,060
You got red dots, you got measles, boom.

828
00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:48,500
But is this an indictment of the medical

829
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:51,840
community that he just- Promoted?

830
00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:52,540
I think so.

831
00:26:52,540 --> 00:26:54,900
Which is that the doctors of America are

832
00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:58,640
so stupid that they can't spot measles, measles

833
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,500
of all things.

834
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,360
Yes, measles, measles, red dots.

835
00:27:01,580 --> 00:27:03,120
...country of diagnosing and treating measles.

836
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,580
If you look at the outbreak in Ohio,

837
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,300
30 percent of the kids were hospitalized.

838
00:27:06,860 --> 00:27:08,640
You look at the outbreak in Minnesota, 20

839
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,760
percent were hospitalized because we don't diagnose it

840
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,200
quickly because doctors- Have we lost the

841
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,900
ability to do it?

842
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,780
We lost the ability to diagnose it because

843
00:27:14,780 --> 00:27:16,960
doctors aren't accustomed to seeing it and we

844
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,020
don't know how to manage it in a

845
00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:18,560
healthcare system.

846
00:27:18,580 --> 00:27:18,940
Wow.

847
00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:19,900
Wow.

848
00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:22,480
We've lost the ability to diagnose it because

849
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,020
they weren't used to seeing it.

850
00:27:24,620 --> 00:27:25,700
You got red dots.

851
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,300
Let me look in the book.

852
00:27:28,460 --> 00:27:30,080
Seems like measles to me.

853
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,340
We need a doctor to check in with

854
00:27:33,340 --> 00:27:35,340
us on this because it sounds very strange.

855
00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:36,020
This is unbelievable.

856
00:27:36,220 --> 00:27:38,320
This is an indictment of the medical profession.

857
00:27:38,780 --> 00:27:40,980
The doctors of this country shouldn't be putting

858
00:27:40,980 --> 00:27:41,740
up with this crap.

859
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,880
They're getting pushed around and manipulated and the

860
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,240
pediatrician report we had earlier is a good

861
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,300
example of being manipulated because they always make

862
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:52,120
some extra money.

863
00:27:52,580 --> 00:27:54,720
They're mostly checklist doctors in most of the

864
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,740
systems we have today.

865
00:27:55,940 --> 00:27:58,880
They always ask you the same questions about

866
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,240
did you get your shot of this and

867
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,520
that and you tell them yes or no.

868
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:05,220
The medical community has gone down the tubes.

869
00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:06,360
We need Kennedy.

870
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,540
Let's check in with this Dell Big Tree

871
00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:09,860
guy.

872
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,680
What's he going to do?

873
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,060
Remember the CDC appointee is someone who's a

874
00:28:13,060 --> 00:28:15,000
very committed anti-vaxxer and I don't say

875
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,020
that in a pejorative way.

876
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,640
I think he would own that label.

877
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:18,780
Why are you saying it?

878
00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:19,740
Wait a minute.

879
00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:21,840
I don't mean that in a bad way.

880
00:28:22,060 --> 00:28:22,380
I'm just.

881
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,680
If he says he doesn't mean it in

882
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,480
a pejorative way, does he mean it in

883
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,780
a complimentary way?

884
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,520
What other way is there?

885
00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:33,020
Who is Trump's appointee for CDC?

886
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:36,460
You have to look him up.

887
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,600
Another horrible person that's going to stop vaxes.

888
00:28:39,940 --> 00:28:42,840
Dave Weldon demands people actually check to see

889
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,680
if these things work.

890
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,980
Or how about this?

891
00:28:45,940 --> 00:28:48,180
Take the liability away so they don't.

892
00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:50,500
They're not free of liability for their lousy

893
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:52,100
products that are poorly manufactured.

894
00:28:52,580 --> 00:28:54,320
If you put dog shit in the vaccine

895
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,400
and it says vaccine, you can't be sued.

896
00:28:56,780 --> 00:28:57,760
I mean, give me a break.

897
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,860
This has to stop.

898
00:28:59,060 --> 00:29:01,420
Remember, the CDC appointee is someone who's a

899
00:29:01,420 --> 00:29:03,360
very committed anti-vaxxer and I don't say

900
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,380
that in a pejorative way.

901
00:29:04,460 --> 00:29:06,280
I think he would own that label very

902
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:06,680
proudly.

903
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,500
He was a congressman when I was at

904
00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:09,780
FDA in the early 2000s.

905
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:13,760
He sponsored multiple bills to withdraw the current

906
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,540
MMR vaccine.

907
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,140
He sponsored bills to do away with the

908
00:29:17,140 --> 00:29:19,880
liability protection that allows companies to bring these

909
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,940
vaccines onto the market.

910
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,940
He forced FDA to reformulate the existing MMR

911
00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:26,460
vaccine to take some of the preservatives out

912
00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:28,120
that we use, which ultimately led to an

913
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,520
increase in costs of those vaccines.

914
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:33,340
So he is very committed to this too.

915
00:29:34,460 --> 00:29:34,900
Wow.

916
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,440
The guy sounds like a prince.

917
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,740
He wants to make sure these things are

918
00:29:39,740 --> 00:29:40,140
tested.

919
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,220
He wants to make sure that you can

920
00:29:42,220 --> 00:29:44,820
be sued for producing a crappy product.

921
00:29:45,060 --> 00:29:46,720
He wants to get the mercury out of

922
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,340
the vaccines and the preservatives.

923
00:29:48,860 --> 00:29:50,180
And so he's a bad guy.

924
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,180
I'm looking to see if he had...

925
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,380
The guy, he's a doctor, if I'm not

926
00:29:55,380 --> 00:29:55,640
mistaken.

927
00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:58,080
During his time in Congress, Weldon raised concerns

928
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,980
about the safety, the safety of the measles,

929
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,220
mumps, and rubella vaccines, as well the safety

930
00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:03,980
of Gardasil.

931
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,860
He's not an anti-vaxxer.

932
00:30:05,980 --> 00:30:08,740
He raised, and this is Wikipedia, believe me,

933
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,300
if he had...

934
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:11,580
Right, which is left-wing, left-leaning, always.

935
00:30:11,780 --> 00:30:14,180
If there was any anti-vax talk, it

936
00:30:14,180 --> 00:30:14,980
would be in here.

937
00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:19,180
But really, what does it matter, Scott Gottlieb?

938
00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:21,820
Because according to you, Pfizer is not even

939
00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:24,280
in the child vaccine business.

940
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,600
People will look at this who are on

941
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,120
that side of things and say, of course,

942
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,380
that's what Gottlieb says because he's on the

943
00:30:30,380 --> 00:30:32,340
board of Pfizer and they're a big vaccine

944
00:30:32,340 --> 00:30:32,840
machine.

945
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,960
Well, we don't make the pediatric vaccines, so

946
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,400
Pfizer is not in that market.

947
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,080
This market is GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Sanofi.

948
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,620
There are other companies doing this.

949
00:30:42,980 --> 00:30:46,940
You literally make the COVID vaccines and advocated

950
00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:48,720
for it to be given to kids under

951
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,120
six years of age and even pregnant mothers.

952
00:30:52,220 --> 00:30:54,380
How is that not in the child vaccine

953
00:30:54,380 --> 00:30:55,040
business?

954
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,660
...said the CNBC lady never.

955
00:31:00,460 --> 00:31:03,260
The CNBC people are just pathetic.

956
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,980
They just let these guys ramble.

957
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,320
This is, of course, CNBC.

958
00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:08,620
Everybody who's a stock investor knows that when

959
00:31:08,620 --> 00:31:11,520
they watch CNBC, they're getting crap.

960
00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:13,440
Yeah, well, here's the point.

961
00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:15,940
It's interesting, but it's still crap when it

962
00:31:15,940 --> 00:31:17,680
comes down to actually getting to the nuts

963
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,480
and bolts of things.

964
00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:19,140
They won't do it.

965
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,480
Yeah, we'll leave this with the final clip

966
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,720
about what we should do about this horrible

967
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,260
Trump and his appointees.

968
00:31:26,420 --> 00:31:29,240
You mentioned President Trump doesn't support a lot

969
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,640
of these policies, or at least you don't

970
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,140
think he does.

971
00:31:31,420 --> 00:31:34,000
What are the guardrails, whether it's Congress, whether

972
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,860
it's other cabinet members, that could prevent all

973
00:31:36,860 --> 00:31:38,780
of these from happening to the degree that,

974
00:31:39,140 --> 00:31:41,100
let's say, RFK Jr. Look, I don't think

975
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:41,820
there are guardrails.

976
00:31:42,340 --> 00:31:44,160
I don't want to speak for the president.

977
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,400
I think I understand his ethos and I

978
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,400
think he has a strong public health ethic

979
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,020
as well as the people around him, so

980
00:31:50,020 --> 00:31:51,900
I don't think they fully understand how Kennedy

981
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:53,960
is going to translate his actions into policy.

982
00:31:54,420 --> 00:31:55,980
I think some in Congress right now who

983
00:31:55,980 --> 00:31:58,000
are deeply skeptical think that they can manage

984
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,140
this through things like appropriations providers.

985
00:32:00,620 --> 00:32:02,700
That's not going to be successful because, like

986
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:04,640
I said, RFK can go in there with

987
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,760
a stroke of a pen, disband ACIP, reconstitute

988
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,740
it with like-minded people, issue a whole

989
00:32:09,740 --> 00:32:10,920
new bunch of recommendations.

990
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,780
He can frustrate the ability to take the

991
00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:15,300
money from the Vaccine for Children's Fund, which

992
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:17,840
would impede a state's abilities to vaccinate children.

993
00:32:17,980 --> 00:32:18,860
There's a lot of things that they could

994
00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:22,340
do day one very easily, administratively, and I

995
00:32:22,340 --> 00:32:23,780
don't think there's a thing Congress can do.

996
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,500
And that is dependent upon Congress getting bills

997
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:29,520
through on appropriations bills that would actually tie

998
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,520
the hands of CDC and Kennedy, and I'm

999
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,440
not sure the will in Congress is there

1000
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,080
to do that.

1001
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,940
Have you spoken with the individual senators about

1002
00:32:37,940 --> 00:32:38,200
this?

1003
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,420
I've had conversations and I've raised my concerns

1004
00:32:40,420 --> 00:32:41,900
and I'll continue to raise my concerns.

1005
00:32:42,140 --> 00:32:45,560
Yes, I've signed a few checks, a couple

1006
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,540
of Pfizer checks to make sure...

1007
00:32:47,540 --> 00:32:48,120
A couple good dinners.

1008
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,960
Yeah, a little trip here and there on

1009
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,640
the Pfizer Gulf Stream.

1010
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,240
A couple of Gulf Stream trips.

1011
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,560
Yeah, it's all good.

1012
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,020
A little shopping spree in Dubai, that's always

1013
00:32:59,020 --> 00:32:59,460
fun.

1014
00:33:01,060 --> 00:33:05,020
To me, the way I hear this, Trump's

1015
00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:09,080
strategy or RFK Jr's strategy really would be,

1016
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,600
let's go in wrecking ball style right away

1017
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,300
and get rid of as much of, get

1018
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:17,580
as much out in the open as possible,

1019
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,180
which is what these guys are really afraid

1020
00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:20,320
of.

1021
00:33:20,420 --> 00:33:22,900
It's the information, it's not so much about,

1022
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,440
I don't think Kennedy is going to defund

1023
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,180
the state's child vaccination.

1024
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,300
I think you're exactly right.

1025
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,460
This is what he said he's going to

1026
00:33:32,460 --> 00:33:32,600
do.

1027
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960
And those clips that you played three or

1028
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,960
four shows ago, which I like so much,

1029
00:33:37,660 --> 00:33:40,260
including bringing out all this data that's being

1030
00:33:40,260 --> 00:33:43,560
hidden from the public and showing transparency that

1031
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,920
everyone talks a big game about transparency, but

1032
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,680
then when Kennedy threatens transparency, all of a

1033
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,520
sudden he's a bad guy and anti-vaxxer.

1034
00:33:51,820 --> 00:33:52,340
Should we review?

1035
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,400
You want to review those three quick things?

1036
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,420
Yeah, I think all three of them should

1037
00:33:55,420 --> 00:33:56,240
be replayed.

1038
00:33:56,260 --> 00:33:59,400
Oh, the first one is the advertising piece.

1039
00:33:59,580 --> 00:34:01,440
I'm not intimidated by the agencies.

1040
00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:03,240
I know how they work and I know

1041
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,040
how to change them.

1042
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,440
And most of those changes you do not

1043
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,420
need Congress for.

1044
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,400
The President, President Trump could have done it,

1045
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,760
had the power to do it himself.

1046
00:34:11,980 --> 00:34:13,880
And President Biden has the power to do

1047
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,219
it himself.

1048
00:34:14,340 --> 00:34:15,300
And I'll give you an example.

1049
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,820
With a stroke of a pen, you can

1050
00:34:18,820 --> 00:34:24,139
change back the rule that allows pharmaceutical advertisers

1051
00:34:24,139 --> 00:34:27,440
to do direct to consumer ads on television.

1052
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,219
That's one of the big problems.

1053
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,080
That's why one of the reasons we have

1054
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,800
this entrenched agency capture, not only of Congress,

1055
00:34:33,860 --> 00:34:36,100
because they control the airwaves, they control the

1056
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:36,739
evening news.

1057
00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:39,239
Seventy five percent of the revenues for those

1058
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,219
evening news shows are, you know, Anderson Cooper

1059
00:34:42,219 --> 00:34:45,940
is coming from Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies.

1060
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,739
So and those companies are dictating content on

1061
00:34:48,739 --> 00:34:52,620
those shows and they dictate the official narratives.

1062
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,440
And they're able then to exercise huge control

1063
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,240
over Congress.

1064
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,820
So Congress is terrified of them.

1065
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,780
But with a stroke of a pen, this

1066
00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:02,260
is not good for the health of our

1067
00:35:02,260 --> 00:35:03,260
country, which it isn't.

1068
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:05,460
We spend three times more than any other

1069
00:35:05,460 --> 00:35:07,880
country for pharmaceutical drugs because of all this

1070
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,620
advertising.

1071
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:11,620
You notice that Gottlieb used the stroke of

1072
00:35:11,620 --> 00:35:13,220
a pen phrase as well.

1073
00:35:13,580 --> 00:35:15,980
So his and I think stroke of the

1074
00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:18,180
pen is only mentioned in these three clips

1075
00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:19,420
regarding advertising.

1076
00:35:19,420 --> 00:35:21,680
This may be one of the biggest fears

1077
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,860
that Gottlieb actually has, not for patients, not

1078
00:35:25,860 --> 00:35:26,480
for children.

1079
00:35:26,620 --> 00:35:29,140
But dude, if we can't if we can't

1080
00:35:29,140 --> 00:35:31,840
advertise on TV, we can't control the media.

1081
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,380
We can't control the narrative.

1082
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:36,000
We're going to have to advertise on podcasts

1083
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,660
or whatever, whatever.

1084
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,360
There was a we early on this show,

1085
00:35:41,420 --> 00:35:44,260
I think around 12, 14 years ago, we

1086
00:35:44,260 --> 00:35:45,380
played this clip.

1087
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,700
We couldn't find this clip if we wanted

1088
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:49,840
to, although it's always a challenge for you.

1089
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,680
You're going to start looking.

1090
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,120
Yes.

1091
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,620
There was a clip that that of the

1092
00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:56,400
one of the first guys who the initial

1093
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,180
prescription drug advertisement that was done on television

1094
00:36:00,180 --> 00:36:01,300
for some screwy drug.

1095
00:36:01,380 --> 00:36:02,700
I can't remember what it was, but the

1096
00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:04,880
guy who had initiated the whole thing was

1097
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,900
being interviewed.

1098
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,540
He was the guy and everyone in the

1099
00:36:08,540 --> 00:36:11,480
pharmaceutical business was skeptical that what are we

1100
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:11,840
going to...

1101
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,520
There's not that many people that have this

1102
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,020
disease.

1103
00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:15,440
Why are we going to advertise this?

1104
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,400
This is a bad idea.

1105
00:36:16,460 --> 00:36:17,400
I don't think we should do it.

1106
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,900
And so he had to fight it, this

1107
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:22,240
guy, because it became legal to be able

1108
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,540
to do this to advertise prescription drugs.

1109
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,220
And so they rolled out the advertisement and

1110
00:36:27,220 --> 00:36:31,500
the sales skyrocketed to such an extreme that

1111
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:33,620
he was like the toast of the town

1112
00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:35,240
for quite a while after that.

1113
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,300
And he was bragging about how this just

1114
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:40,640
changed the whole landscape of the pharma business.

1115
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:42,400
And he went on and on about it.

1116
00:36:42,820 --> 00:36:45,420
It was just like they didn't expect it

1117
00:36:45,420 --> 00:36:47,160
when it happened and they just took over

1118
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,720
the place and it captured everything.

1119
00:36:49,020 --> 00:36:53,370
They've captured media, they've captured news, the news

1120
00:36:53,370 --> 00:36:54,310
business is gone.

1121
00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:57,810
The actual stories about news and the actual

1122
00:36:57,810 --> 00:37:00,370
stories about health, everything.

1123
00:37:01,190 --> 00:37:03,230
And you're right about one thing, I can't

1124
00:37:03,230 --> 00:37:03,790
find that clip.

1125
00:37:05,090 --> 00:37:06,490
It would be a tough one.

1126
00:37:06,990 --> 00:37:07,850
Now we move...

1127
00:37:07,850 --> 00:37:09,050
Maybe actually a lost clip now.

1128
00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:10,850
Yeah, but the transcripts, I might be able

1129
00:37:10,850 --> 00:37:12,750
to find something, but that's for a different

1130
00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:13,050
time.

1131
00:37:14,090 --> 00:37:16,090
So now we go to the second most

1132
00:37:16,090 --> 00:37:18,730
dangerous thing he's going to do on day

1133
00:37:18,730 --> 00:37:21,130
one, which is open up the vaults, open

1134
00:37:21,130 --> 00:37:21,950
up the databases.

1135
00:37:22,190 --> 00:37:25,630
Let's get the information out of the 75

1136
00:37:25,630 --> 00:37:27,630
years they wanted to lock up some of

1137
00:37:27,630 --> 00:37:28,090
this data.

1138
00:37:28,330 --> 00:37:29,890
I think that was Pfizer, in fact.

1139
00:37:30,830 --> 00:37:30,930
Yep.

1140
00:37:31,490 --> 00:37:34,890
So that would be kind of embarrassing.

1141
00:37:35,410 --> 00:37:37,530
Another thing that I can do is I

1142
00:37:37,530 --> 00:37:39,990
can open up all the databases.

1143
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:42,550
Right now, all the databases that you can

1144
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:44,990
actually check the efficacy and the safety of

1145
00:37:44,990 --> 00:37:47,670
vaccines, like the vaccine safety database, it's the

1146
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:48,730
top.

1147
00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:52,670
It's all the vaccine records and the medical

1148
00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:56,190
claims for 10 million Americans from the top

1149
00:37:56,190 --> 00:37:57,750
10 HMOs.

1150
00:37:57,830 --> 00:38:00,450
You can look in there and overnight you

1151
00:38:00,450 --> 00:38:02,510
can say, oh, this vaccine is associated with

1152
00:38:02,510 --> 00:38:05,290
diabetes, this one's associated with peanut allergies, this

1153
00:38:05,290 --> 00:38:08,510
one's associated with neurological tics or whatever.

1154
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:12,590
That database, CDC keeps it in a lockbox,

1155
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:16,090
like Fort Knox, and makes sure no scientist

1156
00:38:16,090 --> 00:38:17,170
is allowed in there.

1157
00:38:17,550 --> 00:38:19,490
Well, I'll open up that database on day

1158
00:38:19,490 --> 00:38:19,790
one.

1159
00:38:20,030 --> 00:38:20,470
You know what?

1160
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:23,190
I would advocate for not just opening up

1161
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:26,050
the database, put it online so we can

1162
00:38:26,050 --> 00:38:27,490
run our own SQL queries.

1163
00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:30,190
Yeah.

1164
00:38:30,350 --> 00:38:33,270
Well, if you get this stuff out, there's

1165
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:36,830
plenty of statistical analysis freaks and everybody in

1166
00:38:36,830 --> 00:38:41,070
between that will have more medical discoveries than

1167
00:38:41,070 --> 00:38:43,770
ever if they can do this.

1168
00:38:43,870 --> 00:38:46,810
And this is, I think, all three of

1169
00:38:46,810 --> 00:38:51,510
these clips address a certain issue that have

1170
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:54,790
a target where you have a group of

1171
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:57,670
people that see that one thing as, oh,

1172
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:59,130
my God, it's going to ruin us.

1173
00:38:59,950 --> 00:39:02,910
Well, this last one is a doozy for

1174
00:39:02,910 --> 00:39:03,590
the industry.

1175
00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:07,510
And, you know, I'll also bring all the

1176
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:10,990
medical journals, the New England Journal of Medicine,

1177
00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:16,710
the Lancet, JAMA into the Justice Department as

1178
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:18,610
soon as I appoint an AG.

1179
00:39:19,150 --> 00:39:20,930
And I'll say to them, you guys are

1180
00:39:20,930 --> 00:39:23,070
part of a racketeering syndicate.

1181
00:39:23,070 --> 00:39:27,810
You're collaborating with these pharmaceutical industry to lie

1182
00:39:27,810 --> 00:39:29,910
to the American public about the efficacy and

1183
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:30,970
safety of these products.

1184
00:39:31,070 --> 00:39:32,470
And you're causing enormous harm.

1185
00:39:32,590 --> 00:39:34,050
And we are going to sue you both

1186
00:39:34,050 --> 00:39:35,370
civilly for damages.

1187
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:37,690
And we're going to sue you criminally unless

1188
00:39:37,690 --> 00:39:39,750
you come up with a plan right now

1189
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:41,110
as to how you're going to stop doing

1190
00:39:41,110 --> 00:39:41,330
that.

1191
00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:43,690
So I have like I have a hundred

1192
00:39:43,690 --> 00:39:46,310
things that I'm going to do immediately.

1193
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:47,750
A hundred things.

1194
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:48,050
Woo.

1195
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:51,730
We only heard three of them.

1196
00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:53,110
97 more.

1197
00:39:53,350 --> 00:39:55,090
And all three of them are deadly.

1198
00:39:55,350 --> 00:39:55,450
We're waiting.

1199
00:39:55,470 --> 00:39:55,970
We're waiting.

1200
00:39:56,530 --> 00:39:58,290
Yeah, this is going to be a rough

1201
00:39:58,290 --> 00:39:58,650
go.

1202
00:39:58,810 --> 00:40:00,890
I mean, they have to, Trump may have

1203
00:40:00,890 --> 00:40:01,030
to do this.

1204
00:40:01,030 --> 00:40:01,630
It's going to be great for the show.

1205
00:40:01,790 --> 00:40:02,870
It's going to be great for us.

1206
00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:05,630
Unless they find some way to, you know,

1207
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:07,750
like you said before, kill Kennedy.

1208
00:40:08,570 --> 00:40:10,610
Well, then we always have Dell Bigtree.

1209
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:15,350
No, well, that's probably they probably put him

1210
00:40:15,350 --> 00:40:18,690
in immediately and he would seek revenge.

1211
00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:19,390
That's what he does.

1212
00:40:19,390 --> 00:40:21,070
This is a problem for these guys.

1213
00:40:21,150 --> 00:40:22,890
They're going to have to start shredding.

1214
00:40:23,090 --> 00:40:24,350
That's the only thing I see.

1215
00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:24,850
Yes.

1216
00:40:24,930 --> 00:40:27,610
Well, they've sent out preservation letters to everything

1217
00:40:27,610 --> 00:40:29,090
and everybody as far as I know.

1218
00:40:29,530 --> 00:40:30,170
Doesn't help.

1219
00:40:30,350 --> 00:40:30,510
No.

1220
00:40:31,130 --> 00:40:31,530
Come on.

1221
00:40:31,590 --> 00:40:33,050
I want to do a little I have

1222
00:40:33,050 --> 00:40:35,610
a short sequence here because probably one of

1223
00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:38,670
the biggest things that people were talking about

1224
00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:40,170
and you were quite surprised by it.

1225
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:42,330
I was less surprised because I had heard

1226
00:40:42,330 --> 00:40:45,190
a version of this choke point, choke point

1227
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:48,350
2.0, which came up with Mark Andreessen

1228
00:40:48,350 --> 00:40:50,450
in the Joe Rogan interview.

1229
00:40:51,810 --> 00:40:55,850
And you were you were surprised because you

1230
00:40:55,850 --> 00:40:57,090
had not heard of this.

1231
00:40:57,770 --> 00:40:59,210
I heard about choke point.

1232
00:40:59,330 --> 00:41:01,110
No, but not 2.0 with the with

1233
00:41:01,110 --> 00:41:03,590
the with the debanking with the peps.

1234
00:41:03,610 --> 00:41:05,690
And we've we got some interesting information from

1235
00:41:05,690 --> 00:41:07,130
someone who doesn't want to be identified.

1236
00:41:07,850 --> 00:41:08,870
This is good information.

1237
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:09,390
A banker.

1238
00:41:10,810 --> 00:41:11,310
Yes.

1239
00:41:11,310 --> 00:41:13,670
I got a lot of information about this.

1240
00:41:13,790 --> 00:41:16,710
I also got what really sent me down

1241
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:19,190
the road of looking into some of this.

1242
00:41:19,570 --> 00:41:20,590
We're talking about debanking.

1243
00:41:21,090 --> 00:41:21,470
Yes.

1244
00:41:22,030 --> 00:41:22,330
Yeah.

1245
00:41:22,410 --> 00:41:25,470
Well, in general, what what Andreessen was really

1246
00:41:25,470 --> 00:41:27,350
communicating and why he was there.

1247
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:30,250
And this folds in a little bit to

1248
00:41:30,250 --> 00:41:32,890
say hello to the new boss, same as

1249
00:41:32,890 --> 00:41:36,750
the old boss, whereas propagandizing and getting your

1250
00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:39,530
message out through podcasts is going to be

1251
00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:44,130
much easier and cheaper, namely free, when you

1252
00:41:44,130 --> 00:41:45,770
can get onto in front of an open

1253
00:41:45,770 --> 00:41:48,050
microphone and you have an agenda.

1254
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:51,490
And it started really with a couple of

1255
00:41:51,490 --> 00:41:55,910
people emailing me saying, why are you bagging

1256
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:57,110
on Mark Andreessen?

1257
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:59,010
You must be jealous of him.

1258
00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:04,550
Yeah, I am 60 years old.

1259
00:42:04,650 --> 00:42:06,110
I'm just fine.

1260
00:42:06,450 --> 00:42:08,170
My wife has a IRA.

1261
00:42:08,690 --> 00:42:09,510
We can retire.

1262
00:42:09,770 --> 00:42:13,090
We can live on on cheese, Bitcoin, Bitcoin

1263
00:42:13,090 --> 00:42:15,450
and cheese rinds will be OK.

1264
00:42:15,770 --> 00:42:17,970
I'm not jealous of Mark Andreessen.

1265
00:42:18,090 --> 00:42:19,350
I don't even think we ragged on him

1266
00:42:19,350 --> 00:42:21,710
other than his up with a button, which

1267
00:42:21,710 --> 00:42:23,950
was a tell we should have picked up

1268
00:42:23,950 --> 00:42:24,170
on.

1269
00:42:24,910 --> 00:42:28,510
So I aggregated a lot of information also

1270
00:42:28,510 --> 00:42:30,510
from some of the people who we trust

1271
00:42:30,510 --> 00:42:32,550
and who have emailed us about this, particularly

1272
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:35,570
about the people, persons of.

1273
00:42:35,830 --> 00:42:36,770
Was it the pep?

1274
00:42:36,930 --> 00:42:37,150
It's.

1275
00:42:38,250 --> 00:42:39,630
What does it stand for again?

1276
00:42:40,570 --> 00:42:42,590
Politically exposed, exposed people.

1277
00:42:42,730 --> 00:42:45,270
Yes, politically, of which you could say Nigel

1278
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:46,350
Farage was one.

1279
00:42:46,450 --> 00:42:48,270
There's lots of people who are politically exposed.

1280
00:42:48,430 --> 00:42:52,110
And what that means is people who because

1281
00:42:52,110 --> 00:42:56,510
of their political stance could be bribed or

1282
00:42:56,510 --> 00:42:57,750
could be bribed.

1283
00:42:57,890 --> 00:43:00,870
And so that's why there's always extra scrutiny

1284
00:43:00,870 --> 00:43:01,910
on banks.

1285
00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:02,690
Not up front.

1286
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:04,790
I want to say something very important.

1287
00:43:05,590 --> 00:43:07,030
I've been saying this for years.

1288
00:43:07,630 --> 00:43:10,050
Silicon Valley wants to be your bank.

1289
00:43:10,330 --> 00:43:11,910
They have wanted this forever.

1290
00:43:12,330 --> 00:43:14,250
This has always been the bottom line.

1291
00:43:14,690 --> 00:43:16,230
We saw this with Facebook.

1292
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:18,070
Facebook tried to do it with D.M.

1293
00:43:18,130 --> 00:43:19,210
later called Libra.

1294
00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:22,870
We're seeing it right now with Elon Musk.

1295
00:43:23,050 --> 00:43:23,650
He wants to be.

1296
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:24,370
He's saying it.

1297
00:43:24,450 --> 00:43:25,470
It's not like it's a secret.

1298
00:43:25,950 --> 00:43:27,910
They've always wanted to be your bank.

1299
00:43:28,070 --> 00:43:30,470
And with the advent of banking just being

1300
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:35,830
digital, digital systems, numbers, it doesn't really you

1301
00:43:35,830 --> 00:43:37,750
know, there's no real money anymore.

1302
00:43:38,030 --> 00:43:38,350
It's just.

1303
00:43:38,350 --> 00:43:41,190
And we've seen the ads on television, at

1304
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:46,210
least I have, where you have PayPal promoting

1305
00:43:46,210 --> 00:43:48,430
the idea of using them as your bank.

1306
00:43:48,830 --> 00:43:49,090
Yes.

1307
00:43:49,210 --> 00:43:51,570
Using buying stuff from pay with using your

1308
00:43:51,570 --> 00:43:53,150
new PayPal credit card.

1309
00:43:53,470 --> 00:43:53,730
Yes.

1310
00:43:54,210 --> 00:43:56,150
Which is, you know, and PayPal makes a

1311
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:57,650
point of not saying they're not a bank.

1312
00:43:57,850 --> 00:43:59,830
Well, this is a very good point because

1313
00:43:59,830 --> 00:44:03,370
it is exactly about companies like PayPal, Venmo

1314
00:44:03,370 --> 00:44:06,510
and Square, which are also known as fintech

1315
00:44:06,510 --> 00:44:10,330
fintech companies who sit in between your bank

1316
00:44:10,330 --> 00:44:11,170
and the consumer.

1317
00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:12,710
And there've been some we haven't I think

1318
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:14,030
we've talked about on the show, but there

1319
00:44:14,030 --> 00:44:20,150
was some pretty high profile fintech companies that

1320
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:22,750
have gone bankrupt and people have all their

1321
00:44:22,750 --> 00:44:23,610
money in a few.

1322
00:44:23,830 --> 00:44:25,170
All their money is tied up.

1323
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:26,130
They can't get it out.

1324
00:44:26,210 --> 00:44:28,110
They can't figure out where the money is.

1325
00:44:28,850 --> 00:44:31,750
There's very little regulation over this.

1326
00:44:32,750 --> 00:44:35,950
So I found you probably know this guy,

1327
00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:36,790
Patrick Boyle.

1328
00:44:37,070 --> 00:44:39,030
He's a very boring YouTuber.

1329
00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:41,710
He does this kind of financial stuff.

1330
00:44:41,950 --> 00:44:43,390
And when you hear his voice or recognize

1331
00:44:43,390 --> 00:44:45,330
him, and instead of me explaining it, I

1332
00:44:45,330 --> 00:44:47,590
have some three short clips of him explaining

1333
00:44:47,590 --> 00:44:50,830
first what Mark and by the way, I'm

1334
00:44:50,830 --> 00:44:52,530
not against Mark Andreessen.

1335
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:54,250
He is right in some regard.

1336
00:44:54,890 --> 00:44:56,890
And I'll get to that at the end

1337
00:44:56,890 --> 00:44:57,530
of these clips.

1338
00:44:58,290 --> 00:45:00,990
But he is extremely wrong about the first

1339
00:45:00,990 --> 00:45:05,130
thing he did, which is vilify Elizabeth Warren

1340
00:45:05,130 --> 00:45:07,010
about for these debankings.

1341
00:45:07,070 --> 00:45:09,590
He said that she was in essence the

1342
00:45:09,590 --> 00:45:15,610
one in charge of debanking politically incorrect technology.

1343
00:45:16,290 --> 00:45:19,290
I'm not buying that this this analysis from

1344
00:45:19,290 --> 00:45:19,930
that perspective.

1345
00:45:20,170 --> 00:45:21,410
What did he say?

1346
00:45:22,610 --> 00:45:23,870
He indicated that she was...

1347
00:45:23,870 --> 00:45:25,270
And by the way, how can you not

1348
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:27,450
buy my analysis when I haven't even started

1349
00:45:27,450 --> 00:45:27,750
it?

1350
00:45:27,970 --> 00:45:28,670
No, no, I'm not.

1351
00:45:30,810 --> 00:45:33,890
Your analysis of her right there.

1352
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:35,490
No, the analysis of what Andreessen said...

1353
00:45:35,490 --> 00:45:37,470
I'm not talking about your overall analysis.

1354
00:45:37,810 --> 00:45:39,450
What Andreessen said.

1355
00:45:39,550 --> 00:45:40,770
He blamed her.

1356
00:45:40,770 --> 00:45:43,290
No, he blamed her for running the CRFP,

1357
00:45:43,470 --> 00:45:44,490
whatever that group is.

1358
00:45:44,810 --> 00:45:45,250
CFPB.

1359
00:45:45,250 --> 00:45:46,950
He did not.

1360
00:45:47,090 --> 00:45:48,810
I listened to the same thing you listened

1361
00:45:48,810 --> 00:45:48,970
to.

1362
00:45:49,090 --> 00:45:51,930
I did not hear that she was like

1363
00:45:51,930 --> 00:45:54,150
rubber stamping all these debankings.

1364
00:45:55,150 --> 00:45:56,510
It's not the way I interpreted it.

1365
00:45:56,590 --> 00:45:56,690
OK.

1366
00:45:57,310 --> 00:45:59,790
The reason why I interpret it that way

1367
00:45:59,790 --> 00:46:02,510
is because what I've been hearing for years

1368
00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:08,030
about Silicon Valley fintech firms is that it's

1369
00:46:08,030 --> 00:46:13,570
always Elizabeth Warren, who's the Sheffer, what's the

1370
00:46:13,570 --> 00:46:14,250
guy's name?

1371
00:46:16,110 --> 00:46:17,930
Can't come up with his name, some senator.

1372
00:46:18,530 --> 00:46:19,770
She's always in there.

1373
00:46:19,850 --> 00:46:20,530
She's always in there.

1374
00:46:20,610 --> 00:46:22,710
So, OK, CFPB.

1375
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:25,810
But he said it was her agency implying

1376
00:46:25,810 --> 00:46:28,090
that she is part of the bad people

1377
00:46:28,090 --> 00:46:30,830
who are trying to stop this incredible innovation.

1378
00:46:31,570 --> 00:46:33,510
And I need to disclose my own bias

1379
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:33,910
here.

1380
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:36,770
I am a big believer in Bitcoin.

1381
00:46:36,770 --> 00:46:39,630
And the reason if any reason there's no

1382
00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:42,130
CEO, no one runs Bitcoin, there's no one

1383
00:46:42,130 --> 00:46:42,990
who's in charge of it.

1384
00:46:43,070 --> 00:46:47,670
Every other so-called crypto, crypto has a

1385
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:49,250
CEO, has an organization.

1386
00:46:49,250 --> 00:46:51,650
And I don't think you ever want some

1387
00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:53,970
Silicon Valley person who always wants to be

1388
00:46:53,970 --> 00:46:56,830
your bank, really running your bank and being

1389
00:46:56,830 --> 00:46:57,850
in control of the money.

1390
00:46:58,450 --> 00:47:01,170
Now, here's the analysis of what Andreessen said.

1391
00:47:01,210 --> 00:47:02,710
And he got it very wrong when it

1392
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:03,950
comes to Elizabeth Warren.

1393
00:47:03,950 --> 00:47:06,390
Now, we might need to fact check some

1394
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:07,870
of what Mark just said.

1395
00:47:08,190 --> 00:47:11,990
While the CFPB was originally proposed by Elizabeth

1396
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:15,890
Warren in 2007, she was removed from consideration

1397
00:47:15,890 --> 00:47:19,470
as its director by the Obama administration and

1398
00:47:19,470 --> 00:47:20,890
has never headed it up.

1399
00:47:21,170 --> 00:47:23,790
Its current director is Rohit Chopra.

1400
00:47:24,110 --> 00:47:26,110
And I don't know if Mark struggles with

1401
00:47:26,110 --> 00:47:28,730
face blindness or something like that, but it's

1402
00:47:28,730 --> 00:47:30,910
not easy to mix the two of them

1403
00:47:30,910 --> 00:47:31,250
up.

1404
00:47:31,770 --> 00:47:34,490
Rohit is a 42-year-old man of

1405
00:47:34,490 --> 00:47:38,010
Indian descent, and Elizabeth is a 75-year

1406
00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:39,550
-old woman of...

1407
00:47:39,550 --> 00:47:40,370
Well, it doesn't matter.

1408
00:47:40,650 --> 00:47:42,950
It's hard to mix them up, is what

1409
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:44,050
I'm really trying to say.

1410
00:47:44,370 --> 00:47:45,350
I just thought it was funny.

1411
00:47:45,770 --> 00:47:45,990
Okay.

1412
00:47:46,570 --> 00:47:48,830
When Mark Andreessen did that big...

1413
00:47:49,550 --> 00:47:51,670
Remember the stutter and we laughed about it

1414
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:52,250
because it was funny?

1415
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:53,150
Yeah, as a tell.

1416
00:47:53,290 --> 00:47:55,030
Neither of us really looked at it as

1417
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:55,450
a tell.

1418
00:47:56,010 --> 00:47:56,970
No, it was too much.

1419
00:47:57,010 --> 00:47:58,230
It was too much to be a tell.

1420
00:47:58,390 --> 00:48:00,610
It was more like just a standard stammer.

1421
00:48:00,610 --> 00:48:02,570
But now that you mention it, we should

1422
00:48:02,570 --> 00:48:03,690
be...

1423
00:48:03,690 --> 00:48:06,430
And we're the ones that are always looking

1424
00:48:06,430 --> 00:48:08,910
for this, and you catch him, I catch

1425
00:48:08,910 --> 00:48:09,690
him, we both catch him.

1426
00:48:09,790 --> 00:48:11,110
We don't both catch him at the same

1427
00:48:11,110 --> 00:48:11,510
time.

1428
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:13,410
But yeah, we both missed it.

1429
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:17,310
And just as an aside, I like Andreessen.

1430
00:48:17,410 --> 00:48:18,490
He was the one who got me the

1431
00:48:18,490 --> 00:48:19,850
first MTV web server.

1432
00:48:19,930 --> 00:48:21,410
I've never had a problem with Andreessen, and

1433
00:48:21,410 --> 00:48:22,830
I still don't have a problem with Andreessen,

1434
00:48:22,990 --> 00:48:25,470
but he is there for a reason.

1435
00:48:25,870 --> 00:48:28,370
The timing is uncanny, but let's just remind

1436
00:48:28,370 --> 00:48:30,370
ourselves with the stuttering tell.

1437
00:48:30,730 --> 00:48:31,370
What does it do, though?

1438
00:48:31,470 --> 00:48:38,130
Basically, it terrorizes financial institutions, prevent new competition,

1439
00:48:38,290 --> 00:48:39,350
new startups that want to compete with the

1440
00:48:39,350 --> 00:48:39,730
big banks.

1441
00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:41,930
I think what Mark is saying, and I

1442
00:48:41,930 --> 00:48:45,330
may be wrong, is that the CFPB supervises

1443
00:48:45,330 --> 00:48:49,030
banks, thrifts, and credit unions with assets of

1444
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:54,470
over $10 billion, also supervising non-depository mortgage

1445
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:59,310
originators and servicers, payday lenders, consumer debt collectors,

1446
00:48:59,810 --> 00:49:03,390
international money transfer, and private student lenders.

1447
00:49:04,030 --> 00:49:07,250
It's in place to protect consumers from being

1448
00:49:07,250 --> 00:49:11,230
ripped off by financial services providers, but it

1449
00:49:11,230 --> 00:49:14,350
doesn't yet cover fintechs like Yotta and Sina.

1450
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:18,910
Mark accuses the CFPB of being involved in

1451
00:49:18,910 --> 00:49:22,570
debanking, and in particular, debanking conservatives.

1452
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:25,310
This is entirely untrue.

1453
00:49:25,310 --> 00:49:27,150
In fact, they do the opposite.

1454
00:49:27,350 --> 00:49:31,370
They investigate banks for discriminatory treatment of customers.

1455
00:49:31,890 --> 00:49:34,930
He goes on to effectively change the subject

1456
00:49:34,930 --> 00:49:38,850
entirely to discussing politically exposed persons.

1457
00:49:39,210 --> 00:49:41,070
And while that's outside the scope of this

1458
00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:43,290
video, I do happen to know a bit

1459
00:49:43,290 --> 00:49:45,050
about that, as I ran a fund for

1460
00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:45,950
many years.

1461
00:49:46,170 --> 00:49:48,690
So now we get the explanation of the

1462
00:49:48,690 --> 00:49:52,490
politically exposed persons, and we'll circle back, there's

1463
00:49:52,490 --> 00:49:53,830
only a couple more, two more, three more,

1464
00:49:53,890 --> 00:49:54,430
two more clips.

1465
00:49:54,430 --> 00:49:59,110
We'll circle back to why Mark was there.

1466
00:49:59,430 --> 00:50:02,130
And I believe it was kind of hard

1467
00:50:02,130 --> 00:50:04,190
to tell because Joe started off, you know,

1468
00:50:04,210 --> 00:50:05,410
they always kind of fade in.

1469
00:50:05,550 --> 00:50:07,090
And Joe's sort of like, hey, you want

1470
00:50:07,090 --> 00:50:07,990
to talk about this?

1471
00:50:08,730 --> 00:50:10,810
Getting on the Joe Rogan show happens in

1472
00:50:10,810 --> 00:50:11,690
a couple of ways.

1473
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:15,570
You're either invited on, which is typical.

1474
00:50:16,050 --> 00:50:19,330
People pitch their one guy, the guy in

1475
00:50:19,330 --> 00:50:19,870
Arizona.

1476
00:50:20,370 --> 00:50:23,330
They pitch him to be on the Rogan

1477
00:50:23,330 --> 00:50:23,610
show.

1478
00:50:24,210 --> 00:50:25,990
I'm sure he gets all those emails we

1479
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:26,190
do.

1480
00:50:26,290 --> 00:50:28,030
This would be a great guy for the

1481
00:50:28,030 --> 00:50:28,410
podcast.

1482
00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:30,050
We think the Joe Rogan experience would be

1483
00:50:30,050 --> 00:50:30,710
perfect for this.

1484
00:50:32,250 --> 00:50:35,270
Or Joe invites you himself, which is typically

1485
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:36,210
what happens with me.

1486
00:50:36,330 --> 00:50:38,270
And that's usually when someone can't make it.

1487
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:39,390
I'll be honest.

1488
00:50:40,730 --> 00:50:41,450
Tony Randall.

1489
00:50:41,710 --> 00:50:43,630
Yes, I'm the Tony Randall of the Joe

1490
00:50:43,630 --> 00:50:44,270
Rogan show.

1491
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:46,030
It's like, someone can't make it and it's

1492
00:50:46,030 --> 00:50:47,130
vacation, it's holiday.

1493
00:50:47,690 --> 00:50:49,010
I'm sure he's going to call when I'm

1494
00:50:49,010 --> 00:50:49,950
on vacation in Italy.

1495
00:50:50,110 --> 00:50:51,030
You know, it'd be something like that.

1496
00:50:51,110 --> 00:50:52,830
But that's how you get on.

1497
00:50:52,830 --> 00:50:54,930
I think Mark Andreessen asked to be on.

1498
00:50:56,030 --> 00:50:58,490
Hold on to that thought while Patrick Boyle

1499
00:50:58,490 --> 00:51:01,070
explains politically exposed persons.

1500
00:51:01,250 --> 00:51:03,850
I'm amazed that Mark runs a multi-billion

1501
00:51:03,850 --> 00:51:07,110
dollar fund and doesn't understand these rules.

1502
00:51:07,690 --> 00:51:11,790
Politically exposed persons are people like politicians, their

1503
00:51:11,790 --> 00:51:14,510
families and their close business associates.

1504
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:18,030
If a politically exposed person, let's say someone

1505
00:51:18,030 --> 00:51:21,030
like Hunter Biden, wants to move a large

1506
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:22,830
sum of money into a bank or an

1507
00:51:22,830 --> 00:51:26,990
investment fund, the financial institution accepting those funds

1508
00:51:26,990 --> 00:51:30,270
is required to investigate the source of those

1509
00:51:30,270 --> 00:51:33,930
funds, which usually involves asking the customer where

1510
00:51:33,930 --> 00:51:35,150
the money came from.

1511
00:51:35,390 --> 00:51:37,730
If they say it came from selling their

1512
00:51:37,730 --> 00:51:41,050
house or liquidating another investment, you then have

1513
00:51:41,050 --> 00:51:43,510
to ask them for documents proving this.

1514
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:46,550
This can be a bit awkward and embarrassing

1515
00:51:46,550 --> 00:51:50,270
as your customer often feels accused of wrongdoing.

1516
00:51:50,450 --> 00:51:53,230
But most people in this position are used

1517
00:51:53,230 --> 00:51:55,810
to these procedures which are in place to

1518
00:51:55,810 --> 00:51:59,530
prevent politicians from taking bribes or having bribes

1519
00:51:59,530 --> 00:52:02,530
passed to their family members or business associates

1520
00:52:02,530 --> 00:52:03,910
on their behalf.

1521
00:52:04,350 --> 00:52:07,510
If Elizabeth Warren wanted to invest a million

1522
00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:10,130
dollars in an index fund, she would likely

1523
00:52:10,130 --> 00:52:11,850
receive this sort of scrutiny.

1524
00:52:12,250 --> 00:52:14,230
She would have to explain the source of

1525
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:14,870
the funds.

1526
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:17,610
Now in today's day and age, if a

1527
00:52:17,610 --> 00:52:20,810
politically exposed person wanted to put money in

1528
00:52:20,810 --> 00:52:22,830
your fund and said that the money came

1529
00:52:22,830 --> 00:52:25,710
from crypto gains, there's a good chance that

1530
00:52:25,710 --> 00:52:28,010
you'd be unable to take that money as

1531
00:52:28,010 --> 00:52:30,510
crypto is widely used in money laundering.

1532
00:52:30,770 --> 00:52:32,850
A lot of crypto people get upset when

1533
00:52:32,850 --> 00:52:36,010
you say this, but financial institutions can get

1534
00:52:36,010 --> 00:52:37,770
in a lot of trouble if they touch

1535
00:52:37,770 --> 00:52:38,530
dirty money.

1536
00:52:38,890 --> 00:52:41,830
So crypto gains or gambling wins will lead

1537
00:52:41,830 --> 00:52:45,290
to even more scrutiny until a financial institution

1538
00:52:45,290 --> 00:52:47,710
can be sure that the money was earned,

1539
00:52:47,810 --> 00:52:48,370
honestly.

1540
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:50,850
Okay, so these are just regular old rules

1541
00:52:50,850 --> 00:52:53,110
that the banking industry has to adhere to.

1542
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:56,890
The reason why Mark Andreessen is angry is

1543
00:52:56,890 --> 00:53:00,170
because he invested in a lot of crypto

1544
00:53:00,170 --> 00:53:03,050
companies during the blockchain extravaganza.

1545
00:53:03,110 --> 00:53:04,210
Oh, it's blockchain.

1546
00:53:04,730 --> 00:53:06,070
Oh, blockchain is everything.

1547
00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:11,390
We had several years ago this incredible rise

1548
00:53:11,390 --> 00:53:14,830
of what the Bitcoiners call shitcoins and just

1549
00:53:14,830 --> 00:53:19,470
all these tokens that would skyrocket and then

1550
00:53:19,470 --> 00:53:22,370
they get dumped right away, people making tens

1551
00:53:22,370 --> 00:53:25,090
of millions, people losing money, people all over

1552
00:53:25,090 --> 00:53:25,650
the place.

1553
00:53:26,070 --> 00:53:28,350
And a lot of these companies were invested

1554
00:53:28,350 --> 00:53:30,870
in by Andreessen Horowitz.

1555
00:53:32,110 --> 00:53:34,210
And so with all of this starting to

1556
00:53:34,210 --> 00:53:37,210
become a problem, the government started looking at

1557
00:53:37,210 --> 00:53:38,110
his investments.

1558
00:53:38,450 --> 00:53:42,170
I don't think necessarily debanking his founders, maybe,

1559
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:44,570
but it would have been 100% in

1560
00:53:44,570 --> 00:53:48,110
conjunction with not allowing these fly-by-night

1561
00:53:48,110 --> 00:53:51,430
operations that are just selling tokens willy-nilly

1562
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:54,350
everywhere with the ability to inflate the supply

1563
00:53:54,350 --> 00:53:55,570
and do whatever they want.

1564
00:53:55,910 --> 00:54:00,110
And he's mad because the true corruption took

1565
00:54:00,110 --> 00:54:03,310
place in a company that he passed on,

1566
00:54:03,590 --> 00:54:05,150
that he did not invest in.

1567
00:54:05,230 --> 00:54:07,250
And so he's not wrong about that.

1568
00:54:07,590 --> 00:54:09,890
How much are you aware of what happened

1569
00:54:09,890 --> 00:54:11,470
with the FTX crisis?

1570
00:54:11,930 --> 00:54:13,230
Because one of the things that happened with

1571
00:54:13,230 --> 00:54:15,670
the FTX thing was it was revealed that

1572
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:16,910
they were, I think they were the number

1573
00:54:16,910 --> 00:54:18,410
two donor to the Democratic Party.

1574
00:54:18,830 --> 00:54:21,050
Do you think that that is sort of

1575
00:54:21,050 --> 00:54:25,110
a preemptive measure to avoid any of this

1576
00:54:25,110 --> 00:54:29,470
debanking and be financially invested in these people

1577
00:54:29,470 --> 00:54:30,970
so they're not gonna come after you?

1578
00:54:31,130 --> 00:54:33,210
Yeah, that was explicitly his strategy.

1579
00:54:33,410 --> 00:54:33,890
That was Sam's.

1580
00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:37,730
Yeah, Sam's approach was just pay everybody.

1581
00:54:38,550 --> 00:54:40,230
So Sam's approach was just, I have $8

1582
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:41,790
billion of customer funds that I can use

1583
00:54:41,790 --> 00:54:44,670
for whatever I want, which was the crime.

1584
00:54:45,670 --> 00:54:46,730
And then a big part of what he

1585
00:54:46,730 --> 00:54:47,910
used, some of it he used to hang

1586
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:49,530
out with celebrities and get Tom and Gisele

1587
00:54:49,530 --> 00:54:51,610
to endorse FTX and the Larry David commercial

1588
00:54:51,610 --> 00:54:52,170
and all this stuff.

1589
00:54:52,510 --> 00:54:53,790
But a lot of that money, something like

1590
00:54:53,790 --> 00:54:55,690
$150 million of that money went to basically

1591
00:54:55,690 --> 00:54:56,450
just pay politicians.

1592
00:54:57,490 --> 00:54:58,930
And a lot of that money was paid

1593
00:54:58,930 --> 00:55:01,130
to politicians with no compliance at all with

1594
00:55:01,130 --> 00:55:03,690
all the campaign finance regulations that the rest

1595
00:55:03,690 --> 00:55:04,690
of us all have to comply with.

1596
00:55:04,790 --> 00:55:06,130
And so the money was just shotgunned out

1597
00:55:06,130 --> 00:55:06,450
the door.

1598
00:55:06,650 --> 00:55:07,850
How come they don't have to comply?

1599
00:55:08,110 --> 00:55:08,970
Well, it was illegal.

1600
00:55:08,970 --> 00:55:10,590
Because he was breaking a law.

1601
00:55:10,770 --> 00:55:13,470
I mean, to be clear, he was illegal.

1602
00:55:13,590 --> 00:55:15,670
Now, a very funny thing happened, which is

1603
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:17,190
when he was indicted by the US government,

1604
00:55:17,350 --> 00:55:19,310
they ended up not charging him on campaign

1605
00:55:19,310 --> 00:55:20,610
finance fraud.

1606
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:22,390
So that's what, and he's right.

1607
00:55:22,590 --> 00:55:23,370
He's absolutely right.

1608
00:55:23,390 --> 00:55:25,850
We followed that money trail through his parents

1609
00:55:25,850 --> 00:55:29,190
and through his foundations and all this paying

1610
00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:32,030
off and politicians were running around, sending back

1611
00:55:32,030 --> 00:55:33,150
the FTX tokens.

1612
00:55:33,290 --> 00:55:33,950
We don't want them.

1613
00:55:34,290 --> 00:55:36,570
So he's absolutely right that they did nothing

1614
00:55:36,570 --> 00:55:37,710
on the Democrat side.

1615
00:55:37,710 --> 00:55:42,390
Of course, with a Joe Biden run White

1616
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:44,870
House and agencies, they did nothing.

1617
00:55:45,010 --> 00:55:46,710
So he's right about that.

1618
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:49,550
But he's really exaggerating it now.

1619
00:55:50,090 --> 00:55:52,190
But there's a reason because there's a little

1620
00:55:52,190 --> 00:55:54,970
change that happened last week before he came

1621
00:55:54,970 --> 00:55:57,330
on Joe's show, whether he was invited or

1622
00:55:57,330 --> 00:55:58,290
asked to be on.

1623
00:55:58,510 --> 00:56:00,230
Now, I'm going to take Mark at his

1624
00:56:00,230 --> 00:56:02,710
word that he wants to have the CFPB

1625
00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:05,710
shut down because of this debanking issue that

1626
00:56:05,710 --> 00:56:07,790
he possibly misunderstands.

1627
00:56:08,050 --> 00:56:11,450
But Mark unfortunately missed this press release on

1628
00:56:11,450 --> 00:56:14,770
the CFPB website that came out about a

1629
00:56:14,770 --> 00:56:17,810
week before his Joe Rogan interview about how

1630
00:56:17,810 --> 00:56:20,790
they're going to crack down on illegal debanking,

1631
00:56:20,990 --> 00:56:22,730
which I'm sure he would have been delighted

1632
00:56:22,730 --> 00:56:23,170
about.

1633
00:56:23,570 --> 00:56:26,450
Oh, and there's another bit in there about

1634
00:56:26,450 --> 00:56:29,750
how they plan to supervise the largest fintech

1635
00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:30,330
companies.

1636
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:34,190
Now, maybe Mark's firm doesn't invest in fintech

1637
00:56:34,190 --> 00:56:36,350
firms and he didn't hear about this new

1638
00:56:36,350 --> 00:56:39,030
development a week before he was on Joe

1639
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:40,130
Rogan's podcast.

1640
00:56:40,690 --> 00:56:42,330
Let's take a look at his website.

1641
00:56:42,930 --> 00:56:43,770
Oh, look at that.

1642
00:56:44,090 --> 00:56:44,610
Synapse.

1643
00:56:44,730 --> 00:56:46,290
That's a fintech, isn't it?

1644
00:56:46,410 --> 00:56:48,690
And there's loads of fintechs and crypto stuff

1645
00:56:48,690 --> 00:56:49,390
on the list.

1646
00:56:49,770 --> 00:56:51,930
You know, the kind of stuff that American

1647
00:56:51,930 --> 00:56:54,430
consumers might need to be protected from.

1648
00:56:54,730 --> 00:56:57,670
They should probably remove Synapse from their list

1649
00:56:57,670 --> 00:57:00,330
of investments, though, because it did go bankrupt.

1650
00:57:00,990 --> 00:57:03,990
How would Mark not know about these investments?

1651
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:06,450
Frankly, it's all over his website.

1652
00:57:06,550 --> 00:57:08,430
Does he not listen when he's sitting in

1653
00:57:08,430 --> 00:57:08,970
the meetings?

1654
00:57:09,610 --> 00:57:11,790
Here's a blog post on his company website

1655
00:57:11,790 --> 00:57:15,710
from 2021 about fintech cozying up to the

1656
00:57:15,710 --> 00:57:16,750
creator economy.

1657
00:57:17,250 --> 00:57:18,550
Oh, look, a video link.

1658
00:57:19,090 --> 00:57:19,970
Oh, come on, Mark.

1659
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:22,550
The YouTubers know how to cover their tracks

1660
00:57:22,550 --> 00:57:25,050
and you're leaving everything up on your website.

1661
00:57:25,350 --> 00:57:28,050
So this is exactly what was happening in

1662
00:57:28,050 --> 00:57:30,050
2020, 2021.

1663
00:57:30,450 --> 00:57:34,010
The Web3 economy, all these tokens, creators were

1664
00:57:34,010 --> 00:57:34,810
going to get paid.

1665
00:57:34,930 --> 00:57:36,310
It was all going to be creators.

1666
00:57:36,670 --> 00:57:38,150
It was all going to be fantastic.

1667
00:57:38,550 --> 00:57:41,670
He does not want the government meddling in

1668
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:44,930
his new fintech affairs.

1669
00:57:45,290 --> 00:57:48,970
And I can't blame him because Silicon Valley

1670
00:57:48,970 --> 00:57:50,350
wants to be your bank.

1671
00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:52,390
This is why he popped up and this

1672
00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:54,050
is why he's calling for the head of

1673
00:57:54,050 --> 00:57:55,030
the CFPB.

1674
00:57:55,390 --> 00:57:58,210
So it's a little disingenuous what is going

1675
00:57:58,210 --> 00:57:58,730
on here.

1676
00:57:58,730 --> 00:58:03,430
And I think that the CFPB, their charter

1677
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:05,890
is to make sure that consumers don't get

1678
00:58:05,890 --> 00:58:06,310
ripped off.

1679
00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:09,910
I think we have also perhaps confused Elizabeth

1680
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:13,690
Warren's consumer protection with the consumer financial protection

1681
00:58:13,690 --> 00:58:17,530
board because we're always talking about these phone

1682
00:58:17,530 --> 00:58:19,310
scams and that was something that she was

1683
00:58:19,310 --> 00:58:20,730
supposed to stop.

1684
00:58:21,470 --> 00:58:24,290
I just feel that we need to be

1685
00:58:24,290 --> 00:58:24,390
very...

1686
00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:25,290
I think you're dead right.

1687
00:58:25,470 --> 00:58:29,710
We need to be very careful about rah

1688
00:58:29,710 --> 00:58:32,990
rah rah go Mark Andreessen because I personally

1689
00:58:32,990 --> 00:58:36,790
don't want him and his crypto fintech companies

1690
00:58:36,790 --> 00:58:37,790
being my bank.

1691
00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:39,730
I don't think it's a great idea.

1692
00:58:40,010 --> 00:58:40,270
It will be.

1693
00:58:41,730 --> 00:58:43,090
Well, you don't...

1694
00:58:43,090 --> 00:58:45,750
Hey, it's Don Jr and Barron who were

1695
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:47,590
advising Trump on this stuff.

1696
00:58:48,610 --> 00:58:51,350
You know, what did they start before the

1697
00:58:51,350 --> 00:58:51,750
election?

1698
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:57,670
Oh, the Trump cyber crypto lending platform something

1699
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:58,070
or other.

1700
00:58:58,290 --> 00:58:59,630
None of this is good.

1701
00:59:01,310 --> 00:59:03,070
I'm very skeptical of that.

1702
00:59:03,450 --> 00:59:05,370
And now you've got guys like David Marcus

1703
00:59:05,370 --> 00:59:06,010
coming out.

1704
00:59:06,070 --> 00:59:08,070
It's like, well, now that Mark blew the

1705
00:59:08,070 --> 00:59:09,170
lid off of it, I might as well

1706
00:59:09,170 --> 00:59:12,230
tell you how the government took down Facebook's

1707
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:15,670
DM, now Libra, which we both were like,

1708
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:17,450
we don't want Facebook running the money.

1709
00:59:18,330 --> 00:59:19,370
Of course not.

1710
00:59:19,390 --> 00:59:20,190
No, no.

1711
00:59:20,190 --> 00:59:22,150
So let's just be careful.

1712
00:59:22,310 --> 00:59:26,170
Let's be careful about, you know, hating on

1713
00:59:26,170 --> 00:59:26,810
all this stuff.

1714
00:59:26,890 --> 00:59:29,290
And remember, it is the PayPal guys coming

1715
00:59:29,290 --> 00:59:29,630
in.

1716
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:31,970
There's a lot of PayPal and money people,

1717
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:36,190
particularly Elon Musk, who I wonder if he's

1718
00:59:36,190 --> 00:59:38,050
going to use some...

1719
00:59:38,830 --> 00:59:40,450
Everyone around here is calling me.

1720
00:59:40,910 --> 00:59:42,470
I hear XRP.

1721
00:59:42,650 --> 00:59:45,210
Elon's going to use XRP for the X

1722
00:59:45,210 --> 00:59:46,330
money.

1723
00:59:46,590 --> 00:59:47,810
I hope not.

1724
00:59:48,010 --> 00:59:49,110
What's XRP?

1725
00:59:49,110 --> 00:59:50,770
It's another shit token.

1726
00:59:51,130 --> 00:59:51,630
Oh.

1727
00:59:51,950 --> 00:59:52,250
Yeah.

1728
00:59:52,370 --> 00:59:54,450
Like you've got XRP, XLM.

1729
00:59:54,650 --> 00:59:56,690
XRP actually has done a lot of work

1730
00:59:56,690 --> 00:59:58,630
to integrate with the banking system.

1731
00:59:58,990 --> 01:00:01,610
But still, you don't want Silicon Valley guys

1732
01:00:01,610 --> 01:00:02,410
running your bank.

1733
01:00:02,490 --> 01:00:04,070
I just don't think it's a good idea.

1734
01:00:04,310 --> 01:00:06,210
I'm a little old school that way.

1735
01:00:06,890 --> 01:00:08,150
Can't believe I'm saying it.

1736
01:00:08,550 --> 01:00:09,390
I keep cash.

1737
01:00:11,370 --> 01:00:13,190
So I'm a big cash guy.

1738
01:00:13,370 --> 01:00:14,590
I think cash is king.

1739
01:00:14,790 --> 01:00:14,930
I know.

1740
01:00:14,930 --> 01:00:15,570
Cash is king.

1741
01:00:15,850 --> 01:00:16,170
Yes.

1742
01:00:17,050 --> 01:00:18,490
Well, the stocks are good too.

1743
01:00:19,010 --> 01:00:19,790
Stocks and cash.

1744
01:00:20,070 --> 01:00:21,170
And Bitcoin, but that's just me.

1745
01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:22,450
I don't have Bitcoin.

1746
01:00:22,530 --> 01:00:23,670
No, I know you don't, but I do.

1747
01:00:24,290 --> 01:00:24,970
It's just too...

1748
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:27,410
I think NVIDIA is better.

1749
01:00:29,730 --> 01:00:29,910
Yeah.

1750
01:00:30,350 --> 01:00:31,150
That's just me.

1751
01:00:31,250 --> 01:00:31,890
Yeah, that's fine.

1752
01:00:32,110 --> 01:00:32,970
We can disagree.

1753
01:00:35,690 --> 01:00:37,710
So, well, we should mention, at least I

1754
01:00:37,710 --> 01:00:39,290
did some research too on this topic.

1755
01:00:39,390 --> 01:00:41,330
I wasn't going to go into that depth,

1756
01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:43,090
but there have been...

1757
01:00:43,090 --> 01:00:45,070
Debanking is an issue that I guess they

1758
01:00:45,070 --> 01:00:46,230
are going to try to fix.

1759
01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:49,090
But the number of complaints to the various

1760
01:00:49,090 --> 01:00:52,130
agencies about people who have been debanked, and

1761
01:00:52,130 --> 01:00:53,870
these are only people that have actually filed

1762
01:00:53,870 --> 01:00:57,890
formal complaints, is 15,000 Americans.

1763
01:00:58,130 --> 01:00:59,310
And I bet some of them are PayPal

1764
01:00:59,310 --> 01:01:00,050
and others.

1765
01:01:01,690 --> 01:01:02,370
Could be.

1766
01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:04,850
I mean, I don't want to get debanked

1767
01:01:04,850 --> 01:01:07,470
by PayPal or by Venmo or by Cash

1768
01:01:07,470 --> 01:01:10,050
App or by anybody because they don't like

1769
01:01:10,050 --> 01:01:11,030
us for some reason.

1770
01:01:11,410 --> 01:01:12,270
So, you know, we...

1771
01:01:12,270 --> 01:01:15,750
Well, generally speaking, PayPal seems to be very

1772
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:16,170
reasonable.

1773
01:01:16,310 --> 01:01:16,650
They call.

1774
01:01:17,130 --> 01:01:18,770
I have chats with them all the time

1775
01:01:18,770 --> 01:01:20,890
about their new processes and programs.

1776
01:01:21,630 --> 01:01:22,350
And they're very...

1777
01:01:22,350 --> 01:01:23,170
I like the company.

1778
01:01:23,410 --> 01:01:23,950
I have no...

1779
01:01:23,950 --> 01:01:26,210
We've had zero difficulties with PayPal.

1780
01:01:26,370 --> 01:01:27,790
I know some people don't like them.

1781
01:01:27,990 --> 01:01:28,190
I know.

1782
01:01:28,430 --> 01:01:29,350
But I like them.

1783
01:01:29,550 --> 01:01:31,850
And we do have the alternative stripe that

1784
01:01:31,850 --> 01:01:33,670
we use now because of some people that

1785
01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:35,390
have their bigoted against PayPal.

1786
01:01:35,570 --> 01:01:36,990
And if they can have their rationale, it's

1787
01:01:36,990 --> 01:01:37,430
fine with me.

1788
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:38,130
I'm just saying...

1789
01:01:38,130 --> 01:01:39,330
I have not had a problem with them.

1790
01:01:39,390 --> 01:01:40,170
I like PayPal.

1791
01:01:40,330 --> 01:01:42,110
As a point of principle, as a point

1792
01:01:42,110 --> 01:01:44,250
of, hey, you know, you don't want anybody

1793
01:01:44,250 --> 01:01:46,370
being able to debank us for any reason

1794
01:01:46,370 --> 01:01:49,050
from any financial institution because of what we

1795
01:01:49,050 --> 01:01:50,010
say or what we do.

1796
01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:53,550
That's what the Consumer Financial Protection Board is

1797
01:01:53,550 --> 01:01:54,630
supposed to be for.

1798
01:01:55,290 --> 01:01:55,730
Yeah.

1799
01:01:55,870 --> 01:01:57,990
And I think a lot of those 15

1800
01:01:57,990 --> 01:02:01,790
,000 are probably about some mainstream fintech companies

1801
01:02:01,790 --> 01:02:03,050
that have been around for a while.

1802
01:02:04,310 --> 01:02:05,650
Did you look into any of them?

1803
01:02:06,370 --> 01:02:08,670
No, I'm not going to go that deep.

1804
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:10,270
I just get a raw number and it's

1805
01:02:10,270 --> 01:02:10,970
good enough for me.

1806
01:02:11,110 --> 01:02:11,330
Yeah.

1807
01:02:12,430 --> 01:02:12,790
Anyway.

1808
01:02:13,710 --> 01:02:16,430
So we just need to be careful because...

1809
01:02:16,430 --> 01:02:19,450
When Nigel Farage got debanked, I thought that

1810
01:02:19,450 --> 01:02:20,130
was...

1811
01:02:20,130 --> 01:02:22,010
And then, of course, the thing that triggered

1812
01:02:22,010 --> 01:02:23,710
all this for me was the fact that

1813
01:02:23,710 --> 01:02:26,350
Melania Trump and Barron both got debanked.

1814
01:02:26,610 --> 01:02:27,070
Yes.

1815
01:02:27,590 --> 01:02:28,950
It was written up in her book.

1816
01:02:29,450 --> 01:02:33,010
And what irks me about that is not

1817
01:02:33,010 --> 01:02:34,850
that she was debanked, but that she won't

1818
01:02:34,850 --> 01:02:35,390
tell us who.

1819
01:02:36,430 --> 01:02:38,690
If you're going to say, I was debanked.

1820
01:02:38,790 --> 01:02:41,010
Oh, these bastards have debanked me.

1821
01:02:41,010 --> 01:02:42,510
I want to know who.

1822
01:02:42,970 --> 01:02:43,790
Yeah, that is curious.

1823
01:02:44,110 --> 01:02:45,530
And nobody has gotten it out of her.

1824
01:02:45,690 --> 01:02:46,810
Who, what bank, what's...

1825
01:02:46,810 --> 01:02:48,210
I mean, I'm sure if you were a

1826
01:02:48,210 --> 01:02:49,510
friend of theirs and never got a check

1827
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:51,650
from Melania, you could look on her check

1828
01:02:51,650 --> 01:02:53,870
and say, oh, it's the Bank of America

1829
01:02:53,870 --> 01:02:55,010
or whatever.

1830
01:02:55,310 --> 01:02:56,370
Let me check and see if I have

1831
01:02:56,370 --> 01:02:57,770
a check from Melania somewhere here.

1832
01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:59,990
But we don't have those checks and she

1833
01:02:59,990 --> 01:03:01,030
won't say who it was.

1834
01:03:01,070 --> 01:03:02,850
But I think if you're going to make

1835
01:03:02,850 --> 01:03:05,290
a fuss about it, make a fuss about

1836
01:03:05,290 --> 01:03:05,430
it.

1837
01:03:05,470 --> 01:03:07,590
Tell us what bank it was and let

1838
01:03:07,590 --> 01:03:08,730
people look into it.

1839
01:03:09,130 --> 01:03:11,530
This really bugs me that Melania Trump was

1840
01:03:11,530 --> 01:03:13,870
debanked and won't tell us who did it.

1841
01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:15,450
Yeah, maybe we can beat it out of

1842
01:03:15,450 --> 01:03:15,790
Barron.

1843
01:03:18,210 --> 01:03:20,170
Barron, do you see the size of this

1844
01:03:20,170 --> 01:03:20,350
guy?

1845
01:03:20,350 --> 01:03:22,330
I know, he's 6'9 or something.

1846
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:24,110
That guy's huge.

1847
01:03:24,930 --> 01:03:26,450
And he hasn't even filled out yet.

1848
01:03:26,610 --> 01:03:27,990
God knows what he's going to be looking

1849
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:28,310
like.

1850
01:03:28,410 --> 01:03:30,570
So besides the debanking issue, I guess my

1851
01:03:30,570 --> 01:03:32,870
point is, you know, we just got to

1852
01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:33,350
be careful.

1853
01:03:33,890 --> 01:03:36,690
There's open mics everywhere with big audiences and

1854
01:03:36,690 --> 01:03:38,570
people can come in with their agenda, whatever

1855
01:03:38,570 --> 01:03:40,050
it is, and we all can go, oh

1856
01:03:40,050 --> 01:03:41,470
yeah, oh yeah, that sounds right.

1857
01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:47,050
Well, in Rogan's defense, it was a very

1858
01:03:47,050 --> 01:03:48,450
entertaining discussion.

1859
01:03:48,810 --> 01:03:51,070
Of course, this is nothing negative about Rogan

1860
01:03:51,070 --> 01:03:51,650
at all.

1861
01:03:52,030 --> 01:03:52,530
At all.

1862
01:03:53,250 --> 01:03:55,970
But I remember when Malone went on and

1863
01:03:55,970 --> 01:03:57,830
he was talking all this stuff and he

1864
01:03:57,830 --> 01:04:03,550
changed the entire narrative of mass formation into

1865
01:04:03,550 --> 01:04:05,730
mass psychosis.

1866
01:04:05,950 --> 01:04:08,050
I mean, he changed everything and brought it

1867
01:04:08,050 --> 01:04:09,150
back to Nazis.

1868
01:04:10,310 --> 01:04:11,850
I love Malone.

1869
01:04:11,970 --> 01:04:13,870
It was a really good theory and he

1870
01:04:13,870 --> 01:04:15,950
sidetracked it.

1871
01:04:16,110 --> 01:04:17,490
It was odd.

1872
01:04:18,490 --> 01:04:19,050
It was odd.

1873
01:04:19,050 --> 01:04:20,270
That guy's the best.

1874
01:04:20,710 --> 01:04:22,610
He is pretty good.

1875
01:04:22,690 --> 01:04:24,230
I mean, he's an op of some sort,

1876
01:04:24,370 --> 01:04:24,970
but I don't know.

1877
01:04:25,830 --> 01:04:28,910
If you recognize an op, it's probably a

1878
01:04:28,910 --> 01:04:29,390
good thing.

1879
01:04:29,610 --> 01:04:33,770
So talking about ops, I wanted to change

1880
01:04:33,770 --> 01:04:36,590
to an international topic and discuss Chatham House.

1881
01:04:36,590 --> 01:04:37,490
Oh, yes.

1882
01:04:37,590 --> 01:04:38,970
I'm glad you got these clips.

1883
01:04:40,310 --> 01:04:43,110
So Chatham House is a front organization.

1884
01:04:43,350 --> 01:04:47,470
It's essentially the Council on Foreign Relations publication

1885
01:04:47,470 --> 01:04:48,550
of foreign affairs.

1886
01:04:49,370 --> 01:04:52,210
Chatham House is, we believe it to be

1887
01:04:52,210 --> 01:04:58,490
kind of fronting for the intel of the

1888
01:04:58,490 --> 01:05:00,530
UK, I think MI6.

1889
01:05:02,430 --> 01:05:05,370
And they have a podcast, who knew?

1890
01:05:05,370 --> 01:05:07,930
And they talk way too much on the

1891
01:05:07,930 --> 01:05:08,530
podcast.

1892
01:05:08,730 --> 01:05:10,710
They talk way too much on the podcast.

1893
01:05:10,710 --> 01:05:12,550
What happened to Chatham House rules on the

1894
01:05:12,550 --> 01:05:12,930
podcast?

1895
01:05:13,870 --> 01:05:14,690
I have no idea.

1896
01:05:14,830 --> 01:05:16,690
I mean, the CIA has a podcast too,

1897
01:05:16,750 --> 01:05:18,670
but they seem to be, they seem to

1898
01:05:18,670 --> 01:05:22,050
have a controlled podcast that they don't, they

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01:05:22,050 --> 01:05:24,350
just don't yuck, yuck, yuck like maniacs.

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01:05:24,930 --> 01:05:29,670
So they were discussing Ukraine and Trump in

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01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:31,810
one of their more recent podcasts.

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01:05:32,290 --> 01:05:34,870
And I thought it was revealing because, and

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01:05:34,870 --> 01:05:36,670
in advance, there's four clips here.

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01:05:37,130 --> 01:05:39,130
In advance of it, I'll say what I

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01:05:39,130 --> 01:05:41,370
believe is they're trying to do, they're freaked

1906
01:05:41,370 --> 01:05:42,350
out about Trump.

1907
01:05:43,110 --> 01:05:46,030
Because everybody knows, even though they don't, Trump

1908
01:05:46,030 --> 01:05:48,310
hasn't said this, but everybody knows he's going

1909
01:05:48,310 --> 01:05:49,750
to pull the plug on the, on the,

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01:05:49,810 --> 01:05:50,830
on the...

1911
01:05:52,050 --> 01:05:54,250
Well, on Ukraine finance.

1912
01:05:54,290 --> 01:05:56,170
Ukraine finance, finance, finance.

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01:05:56,510 --> 01:05:58,870
And he's probably going to, he's going to

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01:05:58,870 --> 01:06:01,390
put the pressure, put the screws to NATO

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01:06:01,390 --> 01:06:03,530
and maybe even get out of it if

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01:06:03,530 --> 01:06:04,250
he can.

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01:06:04,350 --> 01:06:05,170
I don't think he's going to be able

1918
01:06:05,170 --> 01:06:07,330
to do that much in that regard, but

1919
01:06:07,330 --> 01:06:08,550
they're worried about it.

1920
01:06:08,590 --> 01:06:10,750
But they're mostly worried about this Ukraine thing

1921
01:06:10,750 --> 01:06:15,270
because the Europeans, I've decided, are psychos.

1922
01:06:16,490 --> 01:06:18,270
That's what I was telling Christina yesterday.

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01:06:18,430 --> 01:06:19,350
Get out of there.

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01:06:19,610 --> 01:06:21,130
The Europeans are psychos.

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01:06:21,930 --> 01:06:22,810
They're psychos.

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01:06:23,090 --> 01:06:25,750
And they just, you know what, they've gotten

1927
01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:28,310
all of these massive wars from the, you

1928
01:06:28,310 --> 01:06:31,030
know, back to the 100 years wars, the

1929
01:06:31,030 --> 01:06:33,430
Napoleonic wars, the World War I, World War

1930
01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:33,530
II.

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01:06:33,730 --> 01:06:35,610
It's always centered in Europe.

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01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:38,230
These people are nuts.

1933
01:06:38,910 --> 01:06:41,250
And when you start listening to them, you

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01:06:41,250 --> 01:06:42,730
know, it's all great to listen to a

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01:06:42,730 --> 01:06:44,670
British guy with a British accent sounding so

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01:06:44,670 --> 01:06:47,430
erudite and intelligent about stuff.

1937
01:06:47,550 --> 01:06:49,390
But then underneath it, you could just hear,

1938
01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:51,690
and by the way, I don't have the

1939
01:06:51,690 --> 01:06:54,350
clip in here, but they do all agree

1940
01:06:54,350 --> 01:06:56,610
that Trump is not pro-Euro.

1941
01:06:57,870 --> 01:06:59,490
I'm sorry, pro-EU.

1942
01:06:59,690 --> 01:07:00,510
He's not.

1943
01:07:00,590 --> 01:07:01,730
And I don't think he is either.

1944
01:07:01,730 --> 01:07:03,090
And I don't think he should be.

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01:07:03,230 --> 01:07:04,290
I don't think any of us should be.

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01:07:05,090 --> 01:07:06,070
It's competition.

1947
01:07:06,550 --> 01:07:07,470
It's a competition.

1948
01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:08,670
And they're psycho.

1949
01:07:09,450 --> 01:07:10,150
So let's go.

1950
01:07:12,750 --> 01:07:15,030
It's a competition and they're psycho.

1951
01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:16,290
They're psycho.

1952
01:07:16,570 --> 01:07:17,390
And so here we go.

1953
01:07:17,610 --> 01:07:19,690
They're going to discuss, these are four clips.

1954
01:07:19,770 --> 01:07:20,370
They're pretty short.

1955
01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:21,770
One of them's only, yeah, they're a minute

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01:07:21,770 --> 01:07:22,670
to two minutes.

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01:07:23,350 --> 01:07:25,090
The first one is the introduction.

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01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:28,790
They're discussing Ukraine, Trump and what's going to

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01:07:28,790 --> 01:07:29,050
happen.

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01:07:29,170 --> 01:07:29,450
Here we go.

1961
01:07:29,450 --> 01:07:31,210
If Trump comes in and he is committed

1962
01:07:31,210 --> 01:07:33,750
to, quote unquote, resolving the conflict in 24

1963
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:35,970
hours, how can the EU respond?

1964
01:07:36,070 --> 01:07:38,650
And I think the effective response, I think

1965
01:07:38,650 --> 01:07:41,390
is, we've got to put a lot more

1966
01:07:41,390 --> 01:07:44,610
money on the table in order to demonstrate,

1967
01:07:44,990 --> 01:07:47,590
number one, credibility to Trump, that we are

1968
01:07:47,590 --> 01:07:50,410
going to take responsibility for this conflict, that

1969
01:07:50,410 --> 01:07:52,470
it is in the European security neighborhood and

1970
01:07:52,470 --> 01:07:53,790
we need to show them more of the

1971
01:07:53,790 --> 01:07:54,150
burden.

1972
01:07:54,590 --> 01:07:57,090
But that also gives Trump a win because

1973
01:07:57,090 --> 01:08:00,090
he can claim, the Europeans are moving on

1974
01:08:00,090 --> 01:08:03,490
Ukraine and looking to take more financial responsibility

1975
01:08:03,490 --> 01:08:06,690
precisely because of the pressure that I'm placing

1976
01:08:06,690 --> 01:08:07,250
upon them.

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01:08:07,330 --> 01:08:09,510
And so there is a lot of discussion

1978
01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:14,930
around raising 100, 150, even 200 billion additional

1979
01:08:14,930 --> 01:08:18,630
financing for Ukraine in the very short term.

1980
01:08:18,670 --> 01:08:20,850
It may not be implemented in February, but

1981
01:08:20,850 --> 01:08:22,750
I think the Europeans want to plan to

1982
01:08:22,750 --> 01:08:24,689
put on the table when Trump is in

1983
01:08:24,689 --> 01:08:27,990
power very early on in late January or

1984
01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:28,930
indeed early February.

1985
01:08:29,529 --> 01:08:31,310
I like the term security neighborhood.

1986
01:08:32,069 --> 01:08:33,609
What's going on in your neighborhood?

1987
01:08:35,170 --> 01:08:36,050
Security neighborhood.

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01:08:37,350 --> 01:08:38,609
Ukraine's not in the EU.

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01:08:38,930 --> 01:08:39,790
They're not in NATO.

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01:08:40,090 --> 01:08:40,250
No.

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01:08:40,370 --> 01:08:41,630
They're just in around the corner.

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01:08:41,790 --> 01:08:42,410
They're over there.

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01:08:42,569 --> 01:08:43,069
In the neighborhood.

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01:08:44,170 --> 01:08:45,670
And yeah, in the security neighborhood.

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01:08:45,810 --> 01:08:46,090
Yes.

1996
01:08:46,189 --> 01:08:48,649
And they, these guys, they see Trump coming

1997
01:08:48,649 --> 01:08:51,970
in to stop this war and they're, no,

1998
01:08:52,750 --> 01:08:53,850
but what are we going to stop it

1999
01:08:53,850 --> 01:08:54,109
for?

2000
01:08:55,109 --> 01:08:58,170
We can come up with $200 billion of

2001
01:08:58,170 --> 01:09:01,250
our money or of our stupid taxpayer money

2002
01:09:01,250 --> 01:09:04,689
that we have at our disposal and we'll

2003
01:09:04,689 --> 01:09:05,450
put it in there.

2004
01:09:05,490 --> 01:09:06,550
We can't let this happen.

2005
01:09:06,649 --> 01:09:08,210
They don't want peace.

2006
01:09:09,189 --> 01:09:10,450
No, they don't.

2007
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,359
They simply do not want peace and they

2008
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:16,060
will go to clip two.

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01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:18,220
Amita, you've looked a lot at European security

2010
01:09:18,220 --> 01:09:18,960
and NATO.

2011
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,420
Do you think that Europe is shaping up

2012
01:09:21,420 --> 01:09:23,080
to give a coherent response to this?

2013
01:09:23,340 --> 01:09:25,420
I think it is when it comes to

2014
01:09:25,420 --> 01:09:28,260
Ukraine, but I think the bigger issue is

2015
01:09:28,260 --> 01:09:30,680
that of U.S. leadership in NATO and

2016
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,920
U.S. leadership when it comes to transatlantic

2017
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,420
security, because there, I really don't think that

2018
01:09:36,420 --> 01:09:39,399
there is a single European NATO ally who

2019
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:41,340
can take over the baton in that regard.

2020
01:09:41,620 --> 01:09:43,080
If we look at some of the key

2021
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,960
contenders, I mean, Germany, we've talked about, you

2022
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,479
know, the government has fallen apart, but also

2023
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:52,060
it just doesn't have that military strategic vision.

2024
01:09:52,260 --> 01:09:53,260
It doesn't have the leadership.

2025
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:54,500
It doesn't have the concept.

2026
01:09:54,500 --> 01:09:56,140
It doesn't have the training, et cetera.

2027
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,800
France, Macron is being held hostage by Le

2028
01:09:58,800 --> 01:09:58,920
Pen.

2029
01:09:59,380 --> 01:10:01,360
The UK has had a real-time cut

2030
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,140
in defense spending, really, in the budget, and

2031
01:10:03,140 --> 01:10:04,940
it's really only an expeditionary force.

2032
01:10:05,700 --> 01:10:07,920
Poland is spending 4% on defense spending,

2033
01:10:07,940 --> 01:10:09,600
which is great, but it does have retention

2034
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,440
issues within the military and it's still waiting

2035
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:13,640
on capabilities to be delivered.

2036
01:10:14,260 --> 01:10:17,160
So I think the real issue is if

2037
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,460
the U.S. disengages, whatever shape that may

2038
01:10:20,460 --> 01:10:25,560
take from European security and from NATO, who's

2039
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,200
going to step up to the plate and

2040
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,620
who can step up to the plate?

2041
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,400
And there, I don't think there's a single

2042
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,440
European ally who can do that.

2043
01:10:32,700 --> 01:10:34,360
And when we were in Berlin at our

2044
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:38,840
conference, the former Dutch defense minister, Kajsa Ollenbrunn,

2045
01:10:38,940 --> 01:10:40,800
put it quite eloquently, and she was advocating

2046
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,480
for coalitions of the willing.

2047
01:10:42,860 --> 01:10:44,460
If we can't, if there isn't a single

2048
01:10:44,460 --> 01:10:47,020
leader and if trying to do a consensus

2049
01:10:47,020 --> 01:10:49,200
base is too slow, then maybe coalitions of

2050
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,180
the willing is the way forward.

2051
01:10:50,460 --> 01:10:52,100
But perhaps also the other thing to mention,

2052
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:54,060
I think, is on the defense industrial piece,

2053
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,200
because what we need at the moment is

2054
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,900
to develop a European defense industrial base, which

2055
01:10:59,900 --> 01:11:02,560
means European countries spending more on defense, but

2056
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,120
also spending it in Europe.

2057
01:11:04,540 --> 01:11:06,920
You know, this is very interesting.

2058
01:11:07,020 --> 01:11:07,720
Couple of things.

2059
01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:11,640
First, they are psychos for discussing this on

2060
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:12,180
a podcast.

2061
01:11:12,500 --> 01:11:14,000
And I just looked at, you'd expect the

2062
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,300
trilateral commission to have a podcast now.

2063
01:11:16,420 --> 01:11:18,160
Do all these people have a podcast where

2064
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,720
they just spew all their stuff?

2065
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,380
I mean, it's so obvious what they're doing.

2066
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,060
Second, you know, I've said kind of jokingly

2067
01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:30,660
that it seems like Trump and Putin and

2068
01:11:30,660 --> 01:11:32,840
Xi had a Zoom call and went, hey,

2069
01:11:32,900 --> 01:11:34,840
man, the economy suck.

2070
01:11:34,940 --> 01:11:38,100
Let's get some war saber rattling going so

2071
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:43,000
we can all start our restart or kickstart

2072
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,900
or boost our military defense industry.

2073
01:11:46,380 --> 01:11:49,220
And the EU is sitting there going, first

2074
01:11:49,220 --> 01:11:50,980
of all, we promised there would never be

2075
01:11:50,980 --> 01:11:51,940
an EU army.

2076
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:54,900
And now they're talking about we need our

2077
01:11:54,900 --> 01:11:57,880
own defense industry that is, in essence, independent

2078
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,340
of the United States.

2079
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,560
And they don't know how to do it.

2080
01:12:01,740 --> 01:12:02,700
They don't know how to sell it to

2081
01:12:02,700 --> 01:12:05,740
their people other than fear of war, I

2082
01:12:05,740 --> 01:12:06,100
guess.

2083
01:12:08,330 --> 01:12:09,910
I have no idea what they're thinking.

2084
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:11,650
And here we go.

2085
01:12:11,710 --> 01:12:12,250
It's clip three.

2086
01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:12,950
It gets worse.

2087
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:13,990
OK.

2088
01:12:15,450 --> 01:12:17,870
We are at this critical juncture where we

2089
01:12:17,870 --> 01:12:19,830
need to have the European defense industrial base.

2090
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:21,190
Timothy, there it is.

2091
01:12:21,310 --> 01:12:23,990
Do you think Europe can do, can provide

2092
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:27,250
Ukraine with a security guarantee if the U

2093
01:12:27,250 --> 01:12:28,710
.S. doesn't offer that?

2094
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:31,110
And actually, am I right in thinking that

2095
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:33,230
you gave the proceeds of a prize that

2096
01:12:33,230 --> 01:12:36,810
you won to Ukraine to buy missiles?

2097
01:12:37,490 --> 01:12:38,350
Yes, I did.

2098
01:12:40,930 --> 01:12:42,710
But what is this guy doing?

2099
01:12:43,450 --> 01:12:46,170
He's from the Andreessen School of Podcasting.

2100
01:12:46,410 --> 01:12:50,170
Prize that you won to Ukraine to buy

2101
01:12:50,170 --> 01:12:50,670
missiles.

2102
01:12:51,330 --> 01:12:52,090
Yes, I did.

2103
01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:55,590
I didn't quite run for a whole missile.

2104
01:12:56,190 --> 01:13:00,430
It was high tech drones, which I gave

2105
01:13:00,430 --> 01:13:01,230
to a battalion.

2106
01:13:02,070 --> 01:13:04,050
And actually, I spoke to the battalion commander

2107
01:13:04,050 --> 01:13:05,870
when I was last in Ukraine in September,

2108
01:13:05,870 --> 01:13:07,310
and it turned out he was in the

2109
01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:07,990
Kursk region.

2110
01:13:08,530 --> 01:13:09,950
Yeah, that was a prize.

2111
01:13:10,230 --> 01:13:11,650
You're part of the coalition of the willing.

2112
01:13:11,950 --> 01:13:13,310
I'm part of the coalition of the willing,

2113
01:13:13,450 --> 01:13:14,850
indeed, individually.

2114
01:13:15,170 --> 01:13:17,830
So helped by award winning historians.

2115
01:13:17,830 --> 01:13:19,870
What can Europe do?

2116
01:13:20,330 --> 01:13:22,170
So I totally agree with Amida.

2117
01:13:22,690 --> 01:13:26,510
The way forward has to be coalitions of

2118
01:13:26,510 --> 01:13:30,610
the willing European countries, because by no means

2119
01:13:30,610 --> 01:13:31,550
all of them are willing.

2120
01:13:31,810 --> 01:13:33,990
I mean, Viktor Orban's Hungary is certainly not

2121
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:34,290
willing.

2122
01:13:34,890 --> 01:13:37,670
And Robert Fietze of Slovakia is anything but

2123
01:13:37,670 --> 01:13:37,970
willing.

2124
01:13:38,730 --> 01:13:40,790
The big question is to what extent Germany

2125
01:13:40,790 --> 01:13:41,410
is willing.

2126
01:13:42,270 --> 01:13:44,810
Interestingly, Friedrich Merz has talked several times, and

2127
01:13:44,810 --> 01:13:46,010
I saw him in Berlin a couple of

2128
01:13:46,010 --> 01:13:49,430
weeks ago, about starting with a contact group

2129
01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:54,070
of Germany, France, Poland and Britain.

2130
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:57,770
So he's including Britain in that leading group.

2131
01:13:58,210 --> 01:14:01,870
The problem is, number one, the situation in

2132
01:14:01,870 --> 01:14:04,730
Ukraine, as I mentioned last September, is dramatic.

2133
01:14:04,990 --> 01:14:06,890
The Russians are advancing on the Eastern Front

2134
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:10,010
faster than at any time since 2022.

2135
01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:14,030
The Kursk incursion is proving extremely costly and

2136
01:14:14,030 --> 01:14:15,110
difficult to sustain.

2137
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:17,570
And only last night, we had a massive,

2138
01:14:17,650 --> 01:14:20,490
yet another massive attack on the energy infrastructure.

2139
01:14:20,750 --> 01:14:23,550
So the country is really being ground down.

2140
01:14:24,330 --> 01:14:25,590
Coalition of the willing.

2141
01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:28,550
Do you remember the last time that was

2142
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:29,510
used as a phrase?

2143
01:14:31,290 --> 01:14:32,170
Probably not.

2144
01:14:32,810 --> 01:14:36,230
The coalition of the willing was the multinational

2145
01:14:36,230 --> 01:14:39,270
force in Iraq during the 2003 invasion.

2146
01:14:41,230 --> 01:14:45,030
So I'm only going to presume that they

2147
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:49,590
are talking about some kind of multinational force

2148
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:51,990
that would be in Ukraine to protect it.

2149
01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:55,790
Otherwise, why would you use that term?

2150
01:14:58,690 --> 01:15:00,150
I guess you're going to have to send

2151
01:15:00,150 --> 01:15:00,550
troops.

2152
01:15:00,950 --> 01:15:02,450
Yeah, yeah, I think so.

2153
01:15:02,670 --> 01:15:04,610
That's how World War I started for me.

2154
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:04,970
Yeah, yeah.

2155
01:15:05,250 --> 01:15:09,570
This sort of, like, minuscule escalations.

2156
01:15:09,770 --> 01:15:10,950
And the next thing you know, the whole

2157
01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:14,870
world, literally, was shooting at each other.

2158
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:15,350
OK.

2159
01:15:15,950 --> 01:15:17,450
So now we have the last clip, and

2160
01:15:17,450 --> 01:15:19,990
this clip actually says lunatics on it.

2161
01:15:21,230 --> 01:15:23,690
And we've now, I've just literally just printed

2162
01:15:23,690 --> 01:15:28,070
out, we know who Trump's plenipotentiary for Ukraine

2163
01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:30,270
is going to be, a former lieutenant general,

2164
01:15:30,390 --> 01:15:31,110
Keith Kellogg.

2165
01:15:31,310 --> 01:15:33,010
And what they're going to do, it appears,

2166
01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:36,550
is to say, we will go on supporting

2167
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:39,770
you to some level so long as you

2168
01:15:39,770 --> 01:15:41,550
sit down and make a deal with Putin.

2169
01:15:42,310 --> 01:15:44,370
Now, that doesn't mean they're actually going to

2170
01:15:44,370 --> 01:15:48,270
get a deal, because Putin may not be

2171
01:15:48,270 --> 01:15:50,290
willing to make a deal because he's winning.

2172
01:15:51,070 --> 01:15:53,250
And Zelensky may not be willing to make

2173
01:15:53,250 --> 01:15:54,990
a deal because that deal would be the

2174
01:15:54,990 --> 01:15:56,450
end of him politically at home.

2175
01:15:56,810 --> 01:15:58,650
But nonetheless, that's what the US is going

2176
01:15:58,650 --> 01:15:58,930
to try.

2177
01:15:59,250 --> 01:16:03,110
Now, is Europe in this situation, big question,

2178
01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:06,050
going to say, we're going to do something

2179
01:16:06,050 --> 01:16:09,910
completely different and go on supporting Ukraine, you

2180
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:11,370
know, for as long as it takes to

2181
01:16:11,370 --> 01:16:12,710
get the deal they want to get?

2182
01:16:12,890 --> 01:16:14,490
I was just going to say, the answer

2183
01:16:14,490 --> 01:16:16,390
to that, Tim, is yes, they are.

2184
01:16:16,570 --> 01:16:18,470
I think there is a, you know, if

2185
01:16:18,470 --> 01:16:19,970
you think about the narrative from the EU

2186
01:16:19,970 --> 01:16:22,650
over the last two years, it's been negotiations

2187
01:16:22,650 --> 01:16:24,630
will only take place at a moment of

2188
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:27,070
Ukraine's choosing number one and from a position

2189
01:16:27,070 --> 01:16:28,950
of Ukraine's strength number two.

2190
01:16:29,450 --> 01:16:31,430
And it looks as if neither of those

2191
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:33,170
conditions is now going to be met as

2192
01:16:33,170 --> 01:16:35,810
Ukraine is forced into a negotiation against its

2193
01:16:35,810 --> 01:16:38,810
will from a position of weakness early next

2194
01:16:38,810 --> 01:16:39,030
year.

2195
01:16:39,070 --> 01:16:40,950
And I think it is in response to

2196
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:43,810
that risk, there is a lot of I

2197
01:16:43,810 --> 01:16:46,070
think quite mature thinking about the need to

2198
01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:48,450
signal to Trump and signal to Ukraine, certainly

2199
01:16:48,450 --> 01:16:51,030
signal to Russia that's spending 7% of

2200
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:53,970
its GDP on munitions and its military, that

2201
01:16:53,970 --> 01:16:56,670
we are going to equip Ukraine to remain

2202
01:16:56,670 --> 01:16:58,770
in the fight and be credible in walking

2203
01:16:58,770 --> 01:17:01,630
out of the negotiating room if they feel

2204
01:17:01,630 --> 01:17:03,190
a bad deal is in the offing.

2205
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:05,050
And that's why I think we are going

2206
01:17:05,050 --> 01:17:07,550
to see plans come online very early next

2207
01:17:07,550 --> 01:17:07,950
year.

2208
01:17:08,170 --> 01:17:09,630
I think a lot of this actually will

2209
01:17:09,630 --> 01:17:12,250
need to pass through parliaments in December if

2210
01:17:12,250 --> 01:17:14,570
they want the plan ready for January to

2211
01:17:14,570 --> 01:17:16,410
be able to present a plan that says.

2212
01:17:19,430 --> 01:17:22,250
Can you believe these idiots?

2213
01:17:22,710 --> 01:17:24,510
Yes, definitely.

2214
01:17:25,330 --> 01:17:27,850
They think somehow Ukraine is going to turn

2215
01:17:27,850 --> 01:17:30,490
the tables and next thing you know, they're

2216
01:17:30,490 --> 01:17:31,970
going to be in a position of strength.

2217
01:17:32,090 --> 01:17:33,030
When is this going to happen?

2218
01:17:33,150 --> 01:17:33,810
How's it going to happen?

2219
01:17:33,870 --> 01:17:34,730
It'd take forever.

2220
01:17:35,070 --> 01:17:36,430
If it could, it can happen.

2221
01:17:36,530 --> 01:17:37,890
They've already killed half their people.

2222
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:39,490
This is unbelievable.

2223
01:17:39,810 --> 01:17:41,090
These, they don't know when.

2224
01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:44,710
This is, to me, it's beyond comprehension.

2225
01:17:45,250 --> 01:17:47,690
Well, I think the real plan is already

2226
01:17:47,690 --> 01:17:48,110
underway.

2227
01:17:48,330 --> 01:17:49,110
It's already happening.

2228
01:17:49,230 --> 01:17:50,650
I can back that up with some clips.

2229
01:17:50,770 --> 01:17:56,110
The first is Zelensky, who is now, is

2230
01:17:56,110 --> 01:17:58,110
now, the way I read it, and we'll

2231
01:17:58,110 --> 01:17:59,390
listen in this clip, which I think is

2232
01:17:59,390 --> 01:18:03,530
French 24, is signaling, OK, why don't we

2233
01:18:03,530 --> 01:18:06,310
let Russia have those territories that this was

2234
01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:07,690
all about in the first place?

2235
01:18:08,210 --> 01:18:08,590
And we'll just.

2236
01:18:08,910 --> 01:18:11,490
No, it's all about NATO in the first

2237
01:18:11,490 --> 01:18:11,870
place.

2238
01:18:12,410 --> 01:18:14,050
Yes, I'm sorry, which is what it was

2239
01:18:14,050 --> 01:18:14,810
all about in the first.

2240
01:18:14,810 --> 01:18:18,250
But the, we've been talking about a demilitarized

2241
01:18:18,250 --> 01:18:18,690
zone.

2242
01:18:19,530 --> 01:18:21,590
And so there would be a zone and

2243
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:23,950
then on one side of this zone would

2244
01:18:23,950 --> 01:18:26,370
be NATO forces and the other side is

2245
01:18:26,370 --> 01:18:26,710
Russia.

2246
01:18:26,810 --> 01:18:28,130
But I think it's going to be more

2247
01:18:28,130 --> 01:18:30,310
into Ukraine for some obvious reasons.

2248
01:18:30,350 --> 01:18:33,750
This is the latest from Zelensky, whose popularity

2249
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:35,470
now is an all time low.

2250
01:18:36,450 --> 01:18:37,870
People are getting antsy.

2251
01:18:38,050 --> 01:18:41,010
They're saying, hey, if you don't cut a

2252
01:18:41,010 --> 01:18:42,910
deal, we're going to, we're going to remove

2253
01:18:42,910 --> 01:18:43,350
you.

2254
01:18:43,850 --> 01:18:45,050
Are they going to do that?

2255
01:18:46,050 --> 01:18:46,450
Riot.

2256
01:18:47,590 --> 01:18:48,710
They're, they're, they're.

2257
01:18:49,070 --> 01:18:50,670
Oh, yeah, well, there's that.

2258
01:18:50,810 --> 01:18:52,690
Yeah, you could basically riot.

2259
01:18:52,710 --> 01:18:53,090
Yes, right.

2260
01:18:53,150 --> 01:18:54,330
And burn down the capital.

2261
01:18:54,570 --> 01:18:55,230
Yeah, you did it.

2262
01:18:55,670 --> 01:18:56,970
My Don, one of those things.

2263
01:18:57,030 --> 01:18:57,730
Yeah, here's Zelensky.

2264
01:18:57,930 --> 01:19:00,450
It's an option that's never been mentioned before

2265
01:19:00,450 --> 01:19:02,770
in an interview for the British channel Sky

2266
01:19:02,770 --> 01:19:03,190
News.

2267
01:19:03,410 --> 01:19:04,310
Vladimir Zelensky.

2268
01:19:04,450 --> 01:19:05,550
Notice it's Sky News.

2269
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:07,610
So you heard the guy, your Chatham guy

2270
01:19:07,610 --> 01:19:09,690
saying, oh, I'm putting the UK in there.

2271
01:19:09,730 --> 01:19:10,850
I'm putting the UK in there.

2272
01:19:10,910 --> 01:19:12,290
Yeah, the UK is going to be important

2273
01:19:12,290 --> 01:19:12,770
in this.

2274
01:19:12,770 --> 01:19:15,090
In an interview for the British channel Sky

2275
01:19:15,090 --> 01:19:18,250
News, Vladimir Zelensky suggested the rapid accession of

2276
01:19:18,250 --> 01:19:20,350
Ukrainian controlled territories to NATO.

2277
01:19:20,490 --> 01:19:22,970
And here we must not make any mistake.

2278
01:19:23,230 --> 01:19:25,070
But if we want to stop the hot

2279
01:19:25,070 --> 01:19:27,370
stage of the war, we should take on

2280
01:19:27,370 --> 01:19:30,870
the NATO umbrella, the territory of Ukraine that

2281
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:32,370
we have under our control.

2282
01:19:33,390 --> 01:19:35,010
That's what we need to do fast.

2283
01:19:35,510 --> 01:19:37,610
And then Ukraine can get back the other

2284
01:19:37,610 --> 01:19:38,650
part of its territory.

2285
01:19:38,950 --> 01:19:39,490
Diplomatically.

2286
01:19:40,030 --> 01:19:42,770
This proposal has never been conceded by Ukraine

2287
01:19:42,770 --> 01:19:45,770
because no one has ever offered that to

2288
01:19:45,770 --> 01:19:46,550
us officially.

2289
01:19:46,970 --> 01:19:49,830
There's no question of abandoning the territories concerned

2290
01:19:49,830 --> 01:19:50,670
definitively.

2291
01:19:50,990 --> 01:19:52,710
But Zelensky wants to take a step forward

2292
01:19:52,710 --> 01:19:54,250
for the country's immediate security.

2293
01:19:54,750 --> 01:19:56,310
It's an unexpected development.

2294
01:19:56,650 --> 01:19:59,510
The Ukrainian president previously refused to cede territory

2295
01:19:59,510 --> 01:20:01,830
to Russia or accept any kind of frontline

2296
01:20:01,830 --> 01:20:02,390
freeze.

2297
01:20:03,050 --> 01:20:05,710
But Donald Trump's recent statements and the difficulties

2298
01:20:05,710 --> 01:20:08,230
encountered by the army on the ground rekindled

2299
01:20:08,230 --> 01:20:09,870
talks of a possible ceasefire.

2300
01:20:09,870 --> 01:20:11,770
But Zelensky has conditions.

2301
01:20:12,110 --> 01:20:15,090
The second point is if we speak ceasefire,

2302
01:20:16,490 --> 01:20:19,530
guarantees that Putin will not come back.

2303
01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:21,170
We need it very much.

2304
01:20:21,270 --> 01:20:22,730
Otherwise, he will come back.

2305
01:20:22,930 --> 01:20:25,670
Otherwise, how we can, how we can go

2306
01:20:25,670 --> 01:20:26,530
to ceasefire?

2307
01:20:26,910 --> 01:20:31,150
On September 1st, 2024, Russia occupied over 66

2308
01:20:31,150 --> 01:20:35,170
,000 square kilometers of Ukrainian territory, including Crimea,

2309
01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:36,690
annexed in 2014.

2310
01:20:37,470 --> 01:20:40,190
Or around 18% of Ukraine's territory, which

2311
01:20:40,190 --> 01:20:42,310
was internationally recognized in 2013.

2312
01:20:42,750 --> 01:20:45,370
Vladimir Putin is currently opposed to the plan.

2313
01:20:45,690 --> 01:20:48,190
But the Ukrainian foreign minister asked NATO to

2314
01:20:48,190 --> 01:20:50,850
invite Kiev to join the Atlantic Alliance at

2315
01:20:50,850 --> 01:20:52,370
their next meeting in Brussels.

2316
01:20:52,830 --> 01:20:55,530
So this sounds like Zelensky is already on

2317
01:20:55,530 --> 01:20:55,850
board.

2318
01:20:55,970 --> 01:20:56,990
He's been read in.

2319
01:20:57,130 --> 01:20:58,830
Hey, we're going to have to do something

2320
01:20:58,830 --> 01:20:59,170
here.

2321
01:20:59,210 --> 01:21:01,950
And then the dealmaker or deal breaker of

2322
01:21:01,950 --> 01:21:05,610
all deals, Boris Johnson, opens his big trap

2323
01:21:06,190 --> 01:21:08,730
over at the Telegraph with an emergency pod.

2324
01:21:09,450 --> 01:21:10,950
He came to the offices to do it.

2325
01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:12,050
They weren't even in their studio.

2326
01:21:12,210 --> 01:21:12,950
Emergency pod.

2327
01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:16,570
And he spelled out very clearly what he

2328
01:21:16,570 --> 01:21:18,750
thinks should happen next, which was probably what's

2329
01:21:18,750 --> 01:21:19,710
going to happen next.

2330
01:21:19,830 --> 01:21:23,170
This abominable cruelty for so long now, three

2331
01:21:23,170 --> 01:21:23,550
years.

2332
01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:25,650
The only long term solution is to give

2333
01:21:25,650 --> 01:21:27,130
them that protection.

2334
01:21:27,830 --> 01:21:31,110
And the question is, how do you socialize

2335
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:32,330
that with the NATO membership?

2336
01:21:32,510 --> 01:21:33,290
How do you get?

2337
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:35,910
And what you can't do is do what

2338
01:21:35,910 --> 01:21:38,870
the British government is currently doing, nobody wants

2339
01:21:38,870 --> 01:21:39,390
NATO membership.

2340
01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:40,310
We can't even talk about it.

2341
01:21:40,570 --> 01:21:41,270
It's pathetic.

2342
01:21:42,450 --> 01:21:43,270
It's pathetic.

2343
01:21:44,110 --> 01:21:46,050
We should be spelling out.

2344
01:21:46,150 --> 01:21:47,610
And so I get back to my opening

2345
01:21:47,610 --> 01:21:48,370
answer to you.

2346
01:21:48,430 --> 01:21:51,790
We should be spelling out the the parameters

2347
01:21:51,790 --> 01:21:53,770
of the end state for this.

2348
01:21:54,030 --> 01:21:55,950
And they have to be a free, independent,

2349
01:21:56,150 --> 01:22:00,050
sovereign Ukraine that is embedded in Western security

2350
01:22:00,050 --> 01:22:00,710
architecture.

2351
01:22:01,570 --> 01:22:02,690
That doesn't mean NATO.

2352
01:22:02,830 --> 01:22:04,450
That means in the security neighborhood.

2353
01:22:04,450 --> 01:22:07,790
Oh, for my money, that has to be

2354
01:22:07,790 --> 01:22:08,110
NATO.

2355
01:22:08,370 --> 01:22:09,090
I don't see any.

2356
01:22:09,310 --> 01:22:10,150
I don't see any alternative.

2357
01:22:10,370 --> 01:22:14,010
Now, you know, what would be the UK

2358
01:22:14,010 --> 01:22:14,930
commitment?

2359
01:22:15,230 --> 01:22:16,090
Well, I think we should.

2360
01:22:16,330 --> 01:22:18,410
I hope this is something that appeals to

2361
01:22:18,410 --> 01:22:20,290
to President Trump as well.

2362
01:22:20,790 --> 01:22:24,250
It would be a commitment that is very

2363
01:22:24,250 --> 01:22:26,970
substantially funded by the Ukrainians themselves.

2364
01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:29,850
So I think we should certainly be putting

2365
01:22:29,850 --> 01:22:31,990
troops into backfill.

2366
01:22:32,610 --> 01:22:33,130
Absolutely.

2367
01:22:33,310 --> 01:22:33,830
British troops.

2368
01:22:33,830 --> 01:22:35,850
Troops in the areas.

2369
01:22:36,010 --> 01:22:37,110
I don't think we should be sending in

2370
01:22:37,110 --> 01:22:38,790
combat troops to take on the Russians.

2371
01:22:39,090 --> 01:22:41,310
But I think as part of the solution,

2372
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,590
as part of the end state, you're going

2373
01:22:44,590 --> 01:22:49,070
to want to have multinational European multinational keeping

2374
01:22:49,070 --> 01:22:54,350
forces monitoring the border, but also helping the

2375
01:22:54,350 --> 01:22:55,770
Ukrainians.

2376
01:22:55,790 --> 01:22:58,950
And I cannot see that such a European

2377
01:22:58,950 --> 01:23:01,230
operation could possibly happen without the British.

2378
01:23:01,390 --> 01:23:02,690
We've got to be there.

2379
01:23:03,450 --> 01:23:06,870
That's a long day's march from the UK

2380
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:11,390
sending troops to fight Russians, as I said.

2381
01:23:11,870 --> 01:23:15,510
But that's that's going to be part of

2382
01:23:15,510 --> 01:23:16,870
the of the package.

2383
01:23:17,210 --> 01:23:19,930
I think when it comes to funding the

2384
01:23:19,930 --> 01:23:21,670
whole thing, here we go, this is 300

2385
01:23:21,670 --> 01:23:23,250
billion dollars.

2386
01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:25,550
The frozen Russian assets.

2387
01:23:26,050 --> 01:23:29,230
Why on earth haven't we liberated those and

2388
01:23:29,230 --> 01:23:31,290
started to use them for the protection of

2389
01:23:31,290 --> 01:23:31,550
Ukraine?

2390
01:23:32,110 --> 01:23:33,930
In the long run, Ukraine is actually a

2391
01:23:33,930 --> 01:23:36,250
very rich country with enormous potential.

2392
01:23:37,170 --> 01:23:39,210
They will be able to pay back the

2393
01:23:39,210 --> 01:23:40,710
cost of their defense, just as we did

2394
01:23:41,310 --> 01:23:43,090
for decades after the Second World War.

2395
01:23:43,310 --> 01:23:46,530
So, yeah, put your put your troops, put

2396
01:23:46,530 --> 01:23:47,590
your boys and girls.

2397
01:23:47,770 --> 01:23:49,750
I mean, boys only, of course, because, you

2398
01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:51,170
know, women can't do anything.

2399
01:23:51,410 --> 01:23:53,750
Women are just abused by by politicians.

2400
01:23:53,930 --> 01:23:56,090
So just put your boys in there.

2401
01:23:56,230 --> 01:23:57,150
We'll be fine with that.

2402
01:23:57,190 --> 01:23:58,790
You go sit in Ukraine with your blue

2403
01:23:58,790 --> 01:24:01,150
helmets on, whatever you want to do.

2404
01:24:01,150 --> 01:24:02,630
And then you think you're going to steal

2405
01:24:02,630 --> 01:24:05,570
the money because Ukraine, Ukraine can pay it

2406
01:24:05,570 --> 01:24:07,170
back from the money that you want to

2407
01:24:07,170 --> 01:24:08,110
steal from the Russians.

2408
01:24:08,270 --> 01:24:10,250
No, I've been waiting to play this clip.

2409
01:24:10,590 --> 01:24:13,370
Lindsey Graham lays it out very, very clearly.

2410
01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:16,870
And since 2014, Lindsey Graham has been in

2411
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:19,790
this whole push, this whole cabal to take

2412
01:24:19,790 --> 01:24:21,090
Ukraine's riches.

2413
01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:22,470
Ukraine is still standing.

2414
01:24:22,570 --> 01:24:23,750
This war is about money.

2415
01:24:24,110 --> 01:24:25,490
People don't talk much about it.

2416
01:24:25,730 --> 01:24:27,610
But, you know, the richest country in all

2417
01:24:27,610 --> 01:24:30,710
of Europe for rare earth minerals is Ukraine.

2418
01:24:30,710 --> 01:24:33,550
Two to seven trillion dollars worth of minerals

2419
01:24:33,550 --> 01:24:37,030
that are rare earth minerals, very relevant to

2420
01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:38,170
the 21st century.

2421
01:24:38,990 --> 01:24:41,270
Ukraine's ready to do a deal with us,

2422
01:24:41,510 --> 01:24:42,550
not the Russians.

2423
01:24:43,150 --> 01:24:44,790
So it's in our interest to make sure

2424
01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:46,550
that Russia doesn't take over the place.

2425
01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:49,930
It's the breadbasket of really the developing world.

2426
01:24:50,190 --> 01:24:51,650
Fifty percent of all the food going to

2427
01:24:51,650 --> 01:24:52,890
Africa comes out of Ukraine.

2428
01:24:53,690 --> 01:24:55,110
We can make money.

2429
01:24:55,570 --> 01:24:55,690
Money.

2430
01:24:55,850 --> 01:24:58,290
And have an economic relationship with Ukraine that'd

2431
01:24:58,290 --> 01:25:00,850
be very beneficial to us with peace.

2432
01:25:01,310 --> 01:25:03,150
So Donald Trump's going to do a deal

2433
01:25:03,150 --> 01:25:06,350
to get our money back, to enrich ourselves

2434
01:25:06,350 --> 01:25:09,210
with rare earth minerals, a good deal for

2435
01:25:09,210 --> 01:25:10,330
Ukraine and us.

2436
01:25:10,670 --> 01:25:12,250
And he's going to bring peace.

2437
01:25:12,430 --> 01:25:14,810
And Biden's been a disaster when it comes

2438
01:25:14,810 --> 01:25:16,170
to containing bad guys.

2439
01:25:16,990 --> 01:25:17,990
And there you have it.

2440
01:25:18,650 --> 01:25:20,410
It's always been about throws it.

2441
01:25:20,510 --> 01:25:21,850
I like the way he throws in just

2442
01:25:21,850 --> 01:25:24,470
a gratuitous slam against Biden, which really has

2443
01:25:24,470 --> 01:25:25,750
nothing to do with anything.

2444
01:25:25,850 --> 01:25:26,450
It's great.

2445
01:25:27,730 --> 01:25:28,830
And that's it.

2446
01:25:29,330 --> 01:25:33,210
We're not going to let the lunatics in

2447
01:25:33,210 --> 01:25:34,430
the EU, as you call them.

2448
01:25:34,750 --> 01:25:36,050
We're not going to let them take the

2449
01:25:36,050 --> 01:25:36,970
rare earth minerals.

2450
01:25:37,490 --> 01:25:38,890
We've already divvied up.

2451
01:25:38,930 --> 01:25:40,010
That was the first thing.

2452
01:25:40,190 --> 01:25:42,210
We've already divvied up the breadbasket.

2453
01:25:42,570 --> 01:25:46,030
That's all Cargill and all the big multinationals.

2454
01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:48,450
They have all that now with which we've

2455
01:25:48,450 --> 01:25:49,730
been starving the Africans.

2456
01:25:50,190 --> 01:25:50,690
Good job.

2457
01:25:51,690 --> 01:25:53,530
Give them some AI training jobs.

2458
01:25:53,930 --> 01:25:54,770
You know, they don't need to eat.

2459
01:25:56,050 --> 01:25:59,370
So Boris, the Boris clip is probably the

2460
01:25:59,370 --> 01:26:01,970
most more relevant than the Chatham House stuff,

2461
01:26:02,090 --> 01:26:05,550
because Boris is the guy who screwed up

2462
01:26:05,550 --> 01:26:08,990
the peace deal years ago at our behest.

2463
01:26:09,290 --> 01:26:12,450
So Boris Johnson is working for us.

2464
01:26:12,910 --> 01:26:13,870
Yes, yes.

2465
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:16,330
And so I think the deal is on.

2466
01:26:16,530 --> 01:26:17,630
It's a good move, by the way.

2467
01:26:17,770 --> 01:26:18,830
Boris Johnson working for us.

2468
01:26:18,830 --> 01:26:20,570
He'll send their troops, not ours.

2469
01:26:20,930 --> 01:26:22,650
And Biden made a point of that.

2470
01:26:22,810 --> 01:26:24,570
Biden dropped it, kind of dropped the ball

2471
01:26:24,570 --> 01:26:24,750
by two.

2472
01:26:25,890 --> 01:26:27,390
There's a bunch of dead Ukrainians.

2473
01:26:27,530 --> 01:26:28,970
None of our boys are getting killed.

2474
01:26:29,690 --> 01:26:31,370
I mean, maybe we shouldn't be putting it

2475
01:26:31,370 --> 01:26:33,710
that way because it's like it becomes pretty

2476
01:26:33,710 --> 01:26:34,970
obvious what we're up to.

2477
01:26:36,070 --> 01:26:38,890
You know, so it's not us.

2478
01:26:39,630 --> 01:26:42,550
And now I don't think that Trump certainly

2479
01:26:42,550 --> 01:26:45,030
won't give up the rare earth minerals to

2480
01:26:45,030 --> 01:26:45,430
Russia.

2481
01:26:46,250 --> 01:26:48,650
And it seems that the moves are already

2482
01:26:48,650 --> 01:26:49,250
being made.

2483
01:26:49,390 --> 01:26:51,710
I mean, there's a number of things happening

2484
01:26:51,710 --> 01:26:53,050
in the international market.

2485
01:26:53,170 --> 01:26:54,470
You know more about it than I do.

2486
01:26:54,470 --> 01:26:58,810
Russia and Putin is definitely under some pressure

2487
01:26:58,810 --> 01:26:59,410
right now.

2488
01:26:59,710 --> 01:27:02,410
After the ruble tumbled to its lowest levels

2489
01:27:02,410 --> 01:27:05,870
in over two years, Russian officials scrambled to

2490
01:27:05,870 --> 01:27:06,630
spread calm.

2491
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:10,730
The currency fell as far as 114.75

2492
01:27:10,730 --> 01:27:13,250
to the US dollar on Wednesday, a level

2493
01:27:13,250 --> 01:27:16,790
unseen since March 2022, just after the start

2494
01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:17,830
of the war in Ukraine.

2495
01:27:18,390 --> 01:27:20,930
The Russian Central Bank was forced to suspend

2496
01:27:20,930 --> 01:27:23,310
foreign purchases of the ruble for the rest

2497
01:27:23,310 --> 01:27:25,830
of this year to prop the crushing currency.

2498
01:27:26,490 --> 01:27:29,390
Vladimir Putin says there's nothing to worry about.

2499
01:27:30,130 --> 01:27:32,930
Regarding the fluctuations of exchange rates of the

2500
01:27:32,930 --> 01:27:35,750
ruble, this is connected not only to inflation,

2501
01:27:36,010 --> 01:27:39,870
but also to budget payments and oil prices.

2502
01:27:40,470 --> 01:27:41,950
There are many seasonal factors.

2503
01:27:42,630 --> 01:27:45,250
So generally, in my opinion, the situation is

2504
01:27:45,250 --> 01:27:45,910
under control.

2505
01:27:46,210 --> 01:27:47,470
There is no reason to panic.

2506
01:27:50,410 --> 01:27:53,030
Although senior officials were quick to minimize the

2507
01:27:53,030 --> 01:27:56,290
situation, blame the strength of the dollar, economists

2508
01:27:56,290 --> 01:27:57,790
say the drop is down to a mix

2509
01:27:57,790 --> 01:28:01,150
of factors, including low oil prices, new sanctions

2510
01:28:01,150 --> 01:28:04,270
against Russian businesses and government spending on the

2511
01:28:04,270 --> 01:28:04,990
war in Ukraine.

2512
01:28:05,550 --> 01:28:07,870
Many Russians now struggle to fill their shopping

2513
01:28:07,870 --> 01:28:08,430
baskets.

2514
01:28:08,890 --> 01:28:11,390
Russia's annual inflation rate came in at 8

2515
01:28:11,390 --> 01:28:14,590
.5% in October, prompting the Central Bank

2516
01:28:14,590 --> 01:28:17,850
to hike interest rates to 21%, the highest

2517
01:28:17,850 --> 01:28:20,470
level in more than two decades, a measure

2518
01:28:20,470 --> 01:28:22,730
that has yet to halt a persistent rise

2519
01:28:22,730 --> 01:28:23,310
in prices.

2520
01:28:23,570 --> 01:28:26,070
The government, meanwhile, is showing no sign of

2521
01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:26,970
reducing its spending.

2522
01:28:27,210 --> 01:28:29,510
On Wednesday, it voted to increase its defense

2523
01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:32,850
budget by a further 30% in 2025.

2524
01:28:33,410 --> 01:28:34,910
So I think that's where Trump has some

2525
01:28:34,910 --> 01:28:35,370
leverage.

2526
01:28:35,570 --> 01:28:36,250
You know, hey, Vladimir.

2527
01:28:36,670 --> 01:28:38,090
This is exaggerated.

2528
01:28:39,170 --> 01:28:41,910
The dollar has gone up so much since

2529
01:28:41,910 --> 01:28:42,670
Trump got elected.

2530
01:28:42,850 --> 01:28:44,810
They could do the same report and say

2531
01:28:44,810 --> 01:28:46,150
it's the collapse of the euro.

2532
01:28:46,410 --> 01:28:46,670
Yes.

2533
01:28:47,370 --> 01:28:50,850
However, the oil prices is true, and that's

2534
01:28:50,850 --> 01:28:53,390
going to go down when Trump starts drilling.

2535
01:28:53,390 --> 01:28:53,730
No?

2536
01:28:54,530 --> 01:28:56,110
Yes, that's going to be an issue.

2537
01:28:56,270 --> 01:28:57,590
But that's an issue in the future.

2538
01:28:57,730 --> 01:28:58,690
It's not an issue right now.

2539
01:28:58,750 --> 01:29:02,010
Right now, the Russian economy is actually overheated.

2540
01:29:02,130 --> 01:29:03,630
That's why you raise interest rates.

2541
01:29:03,670 --> 01:29:05,390
You don't raise them because the economy is

2542
01:29:05,390 --> 01:29:05,950
dying.

2543
01:29:07,650 --> 01:29:08,450
It's overheated.

2544
01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:10,070
So the interest rates are going up and

2545
01:29:10,070 --> 01:29:12,410
inflation is going up because it's overheated.

2546
01:29:12,510 --> 01:29:14,170
The Russian economy is doing very well.

2547
01:29:14,510 --> 01:29:16,330
And the reason I say I would be

2548
01:29:16,330 --> 01:29:18,670
skeptical about this commentary I'm making right now,

2549
01:29:18,690 --> 01:29:19,950
except for the fact that there's a bunch

2550
01:29:19,950 --> 01:29:24,110
of these YouTubers and other Americans in Russia,

2551
01:29:24,570 --> 01:29:27,610
especially in Moscow, shooting film.

2552
01:29:28,650 --> 01:29:30,510
I mean, there's people out on the streets.

2553
01:29:30,710 --> 01:29:32,890
The stores are stocked to the gills.

2554
01:29:33,810 --> 01:29:37,050
The grocery stores in Moscow right now make

2555
01:29:37,050 --> 01:29:39,830
our big stores or even a giant French

2556
01:29:39,830 --> 01:29:40,750
store look sick.

2557
01:29:42,430 --> 01:29:44,330
But this is an exaggeration.

2558
01:29:44,470 --> 01:29:44,970
No, I guess.

2559
01:29:45,290 --> 01:29:47,450
But I think that Trump, when the oil

2560
01:29:47,450 --> 01:29:51,050
prices start to get suppressed, he'll work it

2561
01:29:51,050 --> 01:29:54,490
out somehow with the psychopaths that Russia can

2562
01:29:54,490 --> 01:29:56,470
start selling their oil again.

2563
01:29:57,110 --> 01:29:57,750
Don't you think?

2564
01:29:58,210 --> 01:29:59,530
He's got to give Putin something.

2565
01:29:59,730 --> 01:30:00,890
That would be a great idea.

2566
01:30:01,210 --> 01:30:01,610
Yeah, actually.

2567
01:30:02,030 --> 01:30:02,430
Yes.

2568
01:30:02,530 --> 01:30:04,330
And Putin would go because they got to

2569
01:30:04,330 --> 01:30:06,450
set, you know, separate some repairs needed for

2570
01:30:06,450 --> 01:30:07,250
some pipelines.

2571
01:30:08,290 --> 01:30:09,330
Minor issues.

2572
01:30:09,730 --> 01:30:11,710
The Russians have doing quite well for themselves,

2573
01:30:11,830 --> 01:30:15,830
selling cheap gas to Europe because they got

2574
01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:16,610
tons of it.

2575
01:30:17,070 --> 01:30:18,330
We have tons, too.

2576
01:30:18,330 --> 01:30:19,910
But we have other issues.

2577
01:30:20,070 --> 01:30:22,750
We were watching, Brendan was over here, we

2578
01:30:22,750 --> 01:30:24,870
were watching some special from Deutsche Welle about

2579
01:30:24,870 --> 01:30:28,590
the poorly capped gas wells in the United

2580
01:30:28,590 --> 01:30:30,470
States and how they caused a fortune to

2581
01:30:30,470 --> 01:30:30,810
fix.

2582
01:30:31,430 --> 01:30:33,110
And some of our oil companies are going

2583
01:30:33,110 --> 01:30:35,470
to have some serious financial problems.

2584
01:30:35,630 --> 01:30:36,810
Oh, I'm going to get a lowdown.

2585
01:30:37,270 --> 01:30:39,730
The oil baron is visiting us Friday.

2586
01:30:40,650 --> 01:30:42,730
By the way, he, I forgot to tell

2587
01:30:42,730 --> 01:30:42,970
you.

2588
01:30:43,650 --> 01:30:45,370
Remember we were talking about North Dakota and

2589
01:30:45,370 --> 01:30:48,290
the guy from the interior from North Dakota,

2590
01:30:48,650 --> 01:30:49,370
about all the drill.

2591
01:30:49,590 --> 01:30:52,630
He says they already have 175,000 acres

2592
01:30:52,630 --> 01:30:54,450
there have been drilling since 2021.

2593
01:30:57,060 --> 01:30:58,120
Yeah, North Dakota is loaded.

2594
01:30:58,380 --> 01:30:58,580
Yeah.

2595
01:30:58,820 --> 01:30:59,440
Oh, it's loaded.

2596
01:30:59,540 --> 01:30:59,900
All right.

2597
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:00,740
But I'll get some.

2598
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,820
Well, he always says Republican president bad for

2599
01:31:04,820 --> 01:31:05,120
business.

2600
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,860
Yeah, he's definitely a Trump guy.

2601
01:31:10,020 --> 01:31:12,920
But in general, it's like Democrats are so

2602
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:13,880
much better for business.

2603
01:31:14,260 --> 01:31:15,140
Much, much higher.

2604
01:31:15,260 --> 01:31:16,940
I can prove that above everyone.

2605
01:31:16,940 --> 01:31:19,160
I mean, we didn't have as good a

2606
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,980
time during the from any president as much

2607
01:31:22,980 --> 01:31:24,600
as we did during the Clinton years.

2608
01:31:24,700 --> 01:31:27,540
I mean, that guy made everybody rich.

2609
01:31:28,180 --> 01:31:30,860
And then just to amp up the pressure,

2610
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:32,640
we're opening up a new front there with

2611
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:32,960
Russia.

2612
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,420
At the feet of Aleppo's medieval citadel, these

2613
01:31:36,420 --> 01:31:38,400
fighters celebrate the latest victory.

2614
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,580
By the way, all these fighters, brand new

2615
01:31:40,580 --> 01:31:42,400
uniforms, completely clean.

2616
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,420
They've still got the creases in them from

2617
01:31:44,420 --> 01:31:45,040
the packaging.

2618
01:31:46,940 --> 01:31:48,820
These guys are well funded.

2619
01:31:49,060 --> 01:31:51,260
After only a few days of the lightning

2620
01:31:51,260 --> 01:31:54,460
offensive, the rebels led by Islamist militant group

2621
01:31:54,460 --> 01:31:57,380
Hayat Tahir al-Sham have taken Syria's second

2622
01:31:57,380 --> 01:31:59,540
largest city from the hands of the Assad

2623
01:31:59,540 --> 01:32:00,080
regime.

2624
01:32:01,580 --> 01:32:04,860
We participated in the operation to liberate Aleppo,

2625
01:32:05,180 --> 01:32:07,840
to kick out the Iranian militias and to

2626
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,140
lift the oppression against our brothers in the

2627
01:32:10,140 --> 01:32:10,900
city of Aleppo.

2628
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:12,940
And we're going to clear all of Syria,

2629
01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:13,460
God willing.

2630
01:32:14,700 --> 01:32:18,100
Rebel groups have taken control of important sites

2631
01:32:18,100 --> 01:32:21,280
such as Aleppo's governorate or the international airport.

2632
01:32:21,980 --> 01:32:24,940
As they entered buildings freshly abandoned by Hezbollah

2633
01:32:24,940 --> 01:32:28,340
militants, these soldiers ripped down portraits of Qasem

2634
01:32:28,340 --> 01:32:31,880
Soleimani, general of Iran's Revolutionary Guards.

2635
01:32:32,460 --> 01:32:34,980
In public squares, monuments of the regime were

2636
01:32:34,980 --> 01:32:37,520
brought down, like this statue of Bashar al

2637
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:38,240
-Assad's brother.

2638
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,340
After four years of standstill, the rebels and

2639
01:32:41,340 --> 01:32:43,640
their allies took control of dozens of towns

2640
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,500
and villages in northwest Syria, most of them

2641
01:32:46,500 --> 01:32:47,840
without resistance.

2642
01:32:48,820 --> 01:32:50,820
Many of these places have been left totally

2643
01:32:50,820 --> 01:32:54,000
deserted, like this town of Saraqeb, a transit

2644
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:55,880
route between Damascus and Aleppo.

2645
01:32:58,060 --> 01:33:02,620
The operation started three days ago and we

2646
01:33:02,620 --> 01:33:06,140
liberated the whole western countryside with the hands

2647
01:33:06,140 --> 01:33:07,560
of Mujahideen fighters.

2648
01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:10,540
We say to our brothers in the liberated

2649
01:33:10,540 --> 01:33:13,020
areas, you are safe as long as the

2650
01:33:13,020 --> 01:33:13,960
Mujahideen are here.

2651
01:33:15,660 --> 01:33:18,020
In an attempt to slow down the progression

2652
01:33:18,020 --> 01:33:20,920
of the rebel offensive, aerial strikes were carried

2653
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,680
out by Assad's fighter planes and Russian jets,

2654
01:33:24,140 --> 01:33:26,580
prompting the evacuation of surrounding towns.

2655
01:33:27,260 --> 01:33:30,840
Iran, Assad's major ally, called for collaboration with

2656
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,960
Russia to better counter the surprise attack.

2657
01:33:33,460 --> 01:33:36,100
The regime also announced it was preparing a

2658
01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:36,940
counter-offensive.

2659
01:33:37,220 --> 01:33:39,640
Aren't the Mujahideen our guys, traditionally?

2660
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:42,600
Aren't those our guys?

2661
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,560
Well, they weren't technically, no, but we've always

2662
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,060
been financing them.

2663
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,480
Yes, and so Aleppo being a very important

2664
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,420
transit route for the oil.

2665
01:33:55,480 --> 01:33:57,840
I'm reminded of Mike Morrell.

2666
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:59,180
Remember Mike Morrell?

2667
01:34:00,140 --> 01:34:01,880
Whatever happened to good old Mike?

2668
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:03,220
He used to be on CBS all the

2669
01:34:03,220 --> 01:34:03,380
time.

2670
01:34:03,420 --> 01:34:07,240
Well, Mike Morrell, who was, eventually wound up

2671
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:10,480
being director of CIA, which is, I think

2672
01:34:10,480 --> 01:34:10,700
he was...

2673
01:34:10,700 --> 01:34:11,560
He's always deputy.

2674
01:34:11,660 --> 01:34:12,480
Was he always deputy?

2675
01:34:12,900 --> 01:34:13,580
Yeah, I think so.

2676
01:34:13,580 --> 01:34:15,060
I thought he, at a certain point...

2677
01:34:15,060 --> 01:34:16,740
I don't think he ever got bumped up.

2678
01:34:17,820 --> 01:34:20,160
He may have been, maybe have been acting

2679
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:21,920
for a while, but he'd never really...

2680
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:23,060
Oh, maybe he was acting.

2681
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:23,560
Let me see.

2682
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:24,660
Let me just check on this.

2683
01:34:24,740 --> 01:34:25,760
I want to make sure I get this

2684
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:26,100
right.

2685
01:34:26,820 --> 01:34:27,340
If he ever...

2686
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:32,980
Asking chat GPT?

2687
01:34:33,140 --> 01:34:34,600
No, I'm looking at Wikipedia.

2688
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:36,100
Yeah, I know.

2689
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:37,020
It's the worst.

2690
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:40,380
No, Brennan.

2691
01:34:40,580 --> 01:34:41,900
Brennan got it instead of him.

2692
01:34:42,940 --> 01:34:43,340
Right.

2693
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:46,240
So he was always deputy.

2694
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:48,580
But here's him.

2695
01:34:48,940 --> 01:34:51,440
Now, this is a while back, but I

2696
01:34:51,440 --> 01:34:53,560
think he was definitely still deputy then.

2697
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,360
On the Charlie Rose show, speaking of whatever

2698
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,740
happened to, after the Charlie robe fell open

2699
01:34:59,740 --> 01:35:00,720
in front of the intern.

2700
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:03,480
Charlie Rose.

2701
01:35:03,860 --> 01:35:06,900
Here is Mike Morrell talking about Syria.

2702
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,720
We need to make the Iranians pay a

2703
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:11,280
price in Syria.

2704
01:35:11,420 --> 01:35:12,560
We need to make the Russians pay a

2705
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:12,820
price.

2706
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,180
We make them pay the price by killing

2707
01:35:16,180 --> 01:35:20,540
Russians and killing Iranians.

2708
01:35:20,580 --> 01:35:21,980
Yes, covertly.

2709
01:35:22,700 --> 01:35:24,180
So you don't tell the world about it,

2710
01:35:24,220 --> 01:35:24,400
right?

2711
01:35:24,620 --> 01:35:26,220
You don't stand up at the Pentagon and

2712
01:35:26,220 --> 01:35:27,400
say, we did this, right?

2713
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:28,580
But you make sure they know it in

2714
01:35:28,580 --> 01:35:29,440
Moscow and Tehran.

2715
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:30,700
Here's the other thing I want to do.

2716
01:35:31,060 --> 01:35:32,000
Here's the other thing I want to do.

2717
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:36,680
I want to go after those things that

2718
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:42,500
Assad sees as his personal power base, right?

2719
01:35:42,500 --> 01:35:44,120
I want to scare Assad.

2720
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,840
So I want to, I want to go

2721
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:48,000
after.

2722
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:48,880
Can you stop for a second?

2723
01:35:50,500 --> 01:35:51,420
Listening to this.

2724
01:35:52,700 --> 01:35:56,040
Fortunately, there's not enough people older on listening

2725
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:57,800
to this podcast, but there used to be

2726
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,080
a character called Mr. Peepers.

2727
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:01,620
Mr. Peepers?

2728
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:03,200
Mr. Peepers.

2729
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:04,380
And it was a TV show.

2730
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:06,280
You probably can catch it on one of

2731
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:10,140
the TV over the air, rerun shows, networks.

2732
01:36:10,740 --> 01:36:12,580
And it was, and the guy who played

2733
01:36:12,580 --> 01:36:14,640
Mr. Peepers was Wally Cox.

2734
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:16,100
And you can look him up and see

2735
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:16,800
a picture of him.

2736
01:36:17,480 --> 01:36:20,240
And Wally Cox always played this kind of

2737
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:20,720
a meek.

2738
01:36:22,500 --> 01:36:23,900
It was exact same voice.

2739
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,040
That's what it reminded me of.

2740
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:25,820
Well, here we go.

2741
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:26,360
Here we go.

2742
01:36:26,460 --> 01:36:27,120
Mr. Peepers.

2743
01:36:27,260 --> 01:36:28,660
Let's listen to 1953.

2744
01:36:29,260 --> 01:36:29,480
Yes.

2745
01:36:29,780 --> 01:36:31,420
Not many people will remember this.

2746
01:36:31,540 --> 01:36:31,960
Let's see.

2747
01:36:32,660 --> 01:36:33,860
It's from NBC.

2748
01:36:34,380 --> 01:36:35,420
Let's get Mr. Peepers.

2749
01:36:37,740 --> 01:36:38,620
Oh God.

2750
01:36:40,140 --> 01:36:40,880
I want to hear him talk.

2751
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:44,260
It's not a shame.

2752
01:36:44,540 --> 01:36:44,700
Yes.

2753
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:46,620
But he got married after that.

2754
01:36:46,860 --> 01:36:47,540
That guy?

2755
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:48,100
Rump.

2756
01:36:48,340 --> 01:36:48,500
Yeah.

2757
01:36:48,860 --> 01:36:49,640
Let's go after Rump.

2758
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:49,940
Okay.

2759
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:50,840
That's pretty old.

2760
01:36:51,480 --> 01:36:53,620
So Mr. Peepers and Wally Cox.

2761
01:36:54,020 --> 01:36:55,840
I realized that this is Morrell.

2762
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:57,000
Morrell is.

2763
01:36:57,020 --> 01:36:58,300
He looks like him a little bit.

2764
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:00,200
He looks like Mr. Peepers.

2765
01:37:00,260 --> 01:37:01,980
And now that he's talking big shot.

2766
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:03,000
Oh, let's kill him.

2767
01:37:03,140 --> 01:37:03,420
Yeah.

2768
01:37:03,580 --> 01:37:05,420
You know, the big, big, let's kill these

2769
01:37:05,420 --> 01:37:06,540
guys and let them know.

2770
01:37:06,660 --> 01:37:08,180
We won't say anything, but they're going to

2771
01:37:08,180 --> 01:37:09,400
know back in Moscow.

2772
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,680
This is tough talk, you know, and that's

2773
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,500
why he's always a deputy director.

2774
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:15,120
He couldn't.

2775
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:15,800
This guy.

2776
01:37:16,260 --> 01:37:17,700
Now that I think about it, I never

2777
01:37:17,700 --> 01:37:18,620
thought about this before.

2778
01:37:18,740 --> 01:37:20,260
He is a Mr. Peepers.

2779
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,040
As his personal power base, right?

2780
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:26,820
I want to scare Assad.

2781
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:30,380
So I want to, I want to go

2782
01:37:30,380 --> 01:37:31,780
after his presidential guard.

2783
01:37:32,580 --> 01:37:35,040
I want to bomb his offices in the

2784
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:35,720
middle of the night.

2785
01:37:35,820 --> 01:37:37,520
Well, that happened about two years ago.

2786
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:38,900
You remember when his brother in law was.

2787
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:42,380
I want to destroy his presidential aircraft on

2788
01:37:42,380 --> 01:37:42,800
the ground.

2789
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:44,880
I want to destroy his presidential helicopters.

2790
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:47,620
I want to make him think we're coming

2791
01:37:47,620 --> 01:37:48,200
after him.

2792
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:48,740
Right.

2793
01:37:49,700 --> 01:37:51,540
I'm not advocating assassinating him.

2794
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:52,000
I'm not.

2795
01:37:52,220 --> 01:37:53,480
I'm not advocating that.

2796
01:37:53,740 --> 01:37:56,360
I'm advocating going after what he thinks is

2797
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:57,020
his power base.

2798
01:37:57,100 --> 01:37:57,280
Right.

2799
01:37:57,300 --> 01:37:58,580
And what he needs to survive.

2800
01:37:58,700 --> 01:37:58,880
Right.

2801
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,580
I want him to think about this is

2802
01:38:01,580 --> 01:38:02,620
not going to end well for me.

2803
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:02,920
Right.

2804
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:06,300
I want to put pressure on him.

2805
01:38:06,300 --> 01:38:07,820
I want to put pressure on the Iranians.

2806
01:38:07,940 --> 01:38:09,200
I want to put pressure on the Russians.

2807
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:12,900
I can't believe I'd never seen this before.

2808
01:38:12,980 --> 01:38:14,320
This guy, this is a psycho.

2809
01:38:14,700 --> 01:38:16,620
This guy's, that's how the CIA thinks.

2810
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:17,520
That's how they operate.

2811
01:38:18,440 --> 01:38:20,240
Yeah, let's, let's kill a whole bunch of

2812
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,120
Russians and Syrians.

2813
01:38:22,420 --> 01:38:23,820
And then we're not going to stand up

2814
01:38:23,820 --> 01:38:25,260
at the Pentagon and say we did that.

2815
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:26,420
No, we're going to let the world know.

2816
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,420
I want to blow up his helicopters, his

2817
01:38:28,420 --> 01:38:29,960
airplane, send him a message.

2818
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,040
These people are insane.

2819
01:38:32,540 --> 01:38:34,260
Well, it wouldn't be so bad if we're

2820
01:38:34,260 --> 01:38:36,320
not dealing with what appears to be Mr.

2821
01:38:36,540 --> 01:38:40,460
Peepers, a meek guy who talks a big

2822
01:38:40,460 --> 01:38:42,900
game and doesn't do jack shit.

2823
01:38:43,180 --> 01:38:44,540
He didn't do any of that.

2824
01:38:47,980 --> 01:38:50,920
And then, of course, we have Maidan 2

2825
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,840
in the making, which is Georgia.

2826
01:38:54,660 --> 01:38:56,220
There's moves being made.

2827
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:58,400
I wish they would stop with this Georgia

2828
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,000
nonsense, but they're going to, yeah.

2829
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,480
This is another European Union play.

2830
01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:04,700
It's like, oh, we want to, we want

2831
01:39:04,700 --> 01:39:06,980
Georgia to be in the European Union.

2832
01:39:07,100 --> 01:39:08,580
And then Georgia has elections.

2833
01:39:11,380 --> 01:39:14,940
And, and, and, and the new guy who

2834
01:39:14,940 --> 01:39:18,320
looks like, he looks like a, like a

2835
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:19,300
modern day beetle.

2836
01:39:19,460 --> 01:39:20,200
Have you seen this guy?

2837
01:39:22,500 --> 01:39:23,420
Very young guy.

2838
01:39:23,420 --> 01:39:25,060
You know, now as you mentioned, I can,

2839
01:39:25,180 --> 01:39:26,260
yes, I have seen him.

2840
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:26,920
I can see him.

2841
01:39:27,060 --> 01:39:28,360
I can see an image of him.

2842
01:39:28,380 --> 01:39:28,920
Yes, he has.

2843
01:39:28,940 --> 01:39:29,880
I never thought about it.

2844
01:39:29,900 --> 01:39:30,160
You're right.

2845
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:32,700
He looks like Mo or Mo from the

2846
01:39:32,700 --> 01:39:33,320
Three Stooges.

2847
01:39:33,380 --> 01:39:33,900
Yeah, yeah.

2848
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:34,780
And a bit like that.

2849
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:35,680
That's more like it.

2850
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:36,060
Exactly.

2851
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,600
A very young Mo of the Three Stooges.

2852
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:40,660
And he's standing, he's like, no, you know,

2853
01:39:40,740 --> 01:39:42,060
we don't want, we don't want to be

2854
01:39:42,060 --> 01:39:43,040
a part of the European Union.

2855
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:45,160
And then the, the, the lady who's supposed

2856
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,260
to get out, she's like, no, I'm not

2857
01:39:47,260 --> 01:39:49,440
getting out until we have a recount, re

2858
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:49,740
-election.

2859
01:39:49,900 --> 01:39:50,800
It's an election denier.

2860
01:39:50,940 --> 01:39:52,220
Some waving EU flags.

2861
01:39:52,660 --> 01:39:55,040
Thousands of Georgians gathered in Tbilisi for a

2862
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,580
third night of demonstrations against the government's decision

2863
01:39:57,580 --> 01:39:59,340
to delay EU accession talks.

2864
01:39:59,340 --> 01:40:02,800
On Saturday, authorities announced they'd detained dozens of

2865
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,920
people overnight during a protest that saw demonstrators

2866
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,020
face off with police, who fired a water

2867
01:40:08,020 --> 01:40:09,640
cannon and tear gas in a bid to

2868
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:10,540
disperse crowds.

2869
01:40:10,660 --> 01:40:12,760
I should probably mention that last week Tina

2870
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,380
said to me, who is this Samantha Powers

2871
01:40:15,380 --> 01:40:16,960
lady and why is she in Georgia?

2872
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:20,440
Like, yeah, that's what she does.

2873
01:40:20,780 --> 01:40:22,880
In the wake of the clashes, Georgia's Prime

2874
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,760
Minister accused pro-EU opposition forces of planning

2875
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:26,420
a revolution.

2876
01:40:26,420 --> 01:40:28,560
In the last four years alone, we have

2877
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,520
seen two attempts from overseas to stage and

2878
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:34,160
finance a revolution, but both failed.

2879
01:40:34,940 --> 01:40:38,260
Today, the opposition's strength is even further reduced.

2880
01:40:38,940 --> 01:40:41,260
As a result, the third attempt at a

2881
01:40:41,260 --> 01:40:42,940
revolution will fail too.

2882
01:40:43,440 --> 01:40:46,000
An accusation rejected by the country's pro-EU

2883
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:49,680
President Salome Zurabishvili, who referred to the demonstrations

2884
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:51,760
as a demand for legitimate rights to have

2885
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:52,360
new elections.

2886
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:55,220
She and government critics argue that the October

2887
01:40:55,220 --> 01:40:58,100
parliamentary election, in which the Georgian Dream Party

2888
01:40:58,100 --> 01:41:00,180
clinched nearly 54% of the vote.

2889
01:41:00,260 --> 01:41:02,240
That's even more brazen than Trump.

2890
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,400
I mean, oh, there are people protesting, so

2891
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:06,560
we should have a new election.

2892
01:41:07,260 --> 01:41:09,280
There was no call for a new election.

2893
01:41:09,580 --> 01:41:11,960
I mean, at least we had, you know,

2894
01:41:11,980 --> 01:41:12,800
it was stolen.

2895
01:41:13,900 --> 01:41:15,600
No one said we want a new election

2896
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,080
when we had January 6th.

2897
01:41:17,180 --> 01:41:19,220
They're going pretty far there in Georgia.

2898
01:41:19,380 --> 01:41:19,960
Was rigged.

2899
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:22,660
MEPs have also rejected the outcome of the

2900
01:41:22,660 --> 01:41:24,640
election and are urging for a rerun.

2901
01:41:24,940 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaking to France 24, Zurabishvili described Georgia's parliament

2902
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:31,140
as illegitimate and insisted she would not leave

2903
01:41:31,140 --> 01:41:32,980
office when her term ends in December.

2904
01:41:33,140 --> 01:41:34,140
That's going to end well.

2905
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:38,320
My mandate ends when the new legitimate president

2906
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:39,280
will be elected.

2907
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,040
It depends on new elections, which is the

2908
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:43,760
main demand of the people that are on

2909
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:44,280
the streets.

2910
01:41:44,580 --> 01:41:46,860
Together with this new demand of new elections,

2911
01:41:46,860 --> 01:41:49,240
what they want and what they're saying is

2912
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,300
that they're not going to accept that the

2913
01:41:52,300 --> 01:41:56,840
Georgian so-called dream tries to take Georgia

2914
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:57,940
back into Russia.

2915
01:41:58,300 --> 01:42:00,580
EU membership is widely popular in the country,

2916
01:42:00,740 --> 01:42:03,120
but the bloc has put Georgia's application on

2917
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:06,000
pause over legislation, including the so-called foreign

2918
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,600
agent law, voted through by the country's parliament

2919
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:09,600
earlier this year.

2920
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,620
The EU has referred to the law as

2921
01:42:11,620 --> 01:42:13,100
draconian and pro-Russian.

2922
01:42:13,100 --> 01:42:16,820
Yeah, it's just, it's, the moves are being

2923
01:42:16,820 --> 01:42:17,220
made.

2924
01:42:17,440 --> 01:42:18,320
Big moves.

2925
01:42:18,700 --> 01:42:22,300
You know, yeah, they're trying.

2926
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,300
It's pretty transparent what's going on.

2927
01:42:26,420 --> 01:42:27,620
You know, they want the, and the EU

2928
01:42:27,620 --> 01:42:28,660
wants to grab this.

2929
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:29,380
Yeah.

2930
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:29,780
Yeah.

2931
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:30,520
And Romania.

2932
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,680
And they're doing the same with Romania now.

2933
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:34,160
Yeah.

2934
01:42:34,340 --> 01:42:34,900
What do you do?

2935
01:42:35,500 --> 01:42:36,740
It's what you do.

2936
01:42:37,380 --> 01:42:38,000
What do you do?

2937
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:38,680
What are you going to do?

2938
01:42:38,740 --> 01:42:39,440
You got these guys?

2939
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:40,500
What are you going to do?

2940
01:42:40,500 --> 01:42:41,240
And these guys.

2941
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:42,100
They're flip-flopping.

2942
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,340
This seems susceptible to this kind of thing.

2943
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:45,060
What are you going to do?

2944
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:45,580
Let's do it.

2945
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,000
We'd like to do it to Russia, but

2946
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:47,900
we can't manage it.

2947
01:42:47,940 --> 01:42:49,800
We can't even make any inroads there at

2948
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:49,960
all.

2949
01:42:50,020 --> 01:42:50,860
In fact, they have a clip.

2950
01:42:51,700 --> 01:42:53,460
I think I've got a clip on Putin

2951
01:42:53,460 --> 01:42:58,660
where the Russian banning gay bars or something.

2952
01:42:58,860 --> 01:42:59,620
Queer chosen.

2953
01:42:59,860 --> 01:43:01,080
No, not, no, no, not that one.

2954
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:02,980
Where is this clip?

2955
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:04,000
Gay in Russia.

2956
01:43:04,660 --> 01:43:05,240
Gay in Russia.

2957
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:05,900
That would be it.

2958
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:06,880
I'm just thinking.

2959
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:11,180
Russian police have carried out a raid at

2960
01:43:11,180 --> 01:43:14,700
bars and nightclubs across Moscow as part of

2961
01:43:14,700 --> 01:43:19,020
the Kremlin's crackdown on the LGBTQ plus community.

2962
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:19,640
Crackdown.

2963
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:23,640
Russian state media reports that authorities see smartphones,

2964
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:25,760
laptops, and video cameras.

2965
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:29,180
The raids come a year after Russia's Supreme

2966
01:43:29,180 --> 01:43:33,720
Court designated the LGBTQ plus movement as an

2967
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:37,300
extremist organization and banned their activities.

2968
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:41,980
President Vladimir Putin has touted traditional family values

2969
01:43:41,980 --> 01:43:45,040
as a cornerstone of his quarter century in

2970
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:45,340
power.

2971
01:43:45,580 --> 01:43:47,460
I love how they insinuate that you can't

2972
01:43:47,460 --> 01:43:48,440
be gay in Russia.

2973
01:43:48,440 --> 01:43:52,400
Whereas we know that that LGBTQ LMNOP organization

2974
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:53,420
was a front.

2975
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:56,000
That's exactly right.

2976
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:57,980
And the way they present this, I think

2977
01:43:57,980 --> 01:44:01,720
this friend's 24, one of these guys, they

2978
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:03,360
present it as though this has to do

2979
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,420
with the horrible family values.

2980
01:44:05,500 --> 01:44:07,580
No, this has to do with what we

2981
01:44:07,580 --> 01:44:10,320
just played about George and everybody else.

2982
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,220
This is a front organization designed to overthrow

2983
01:44:13,220 --> 01:44:14,200
the Russian government.

2984
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:15,560
Exactly.

2985
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:20,360
But heaven forbid we tell anybody that because,

2986
01:44:20,460 --> 01:44:21,440
you know, gays.

2987
01:44:22,480 --> 01:44:23,720
The gays, John.

2988
01:44:24,260 --> 01:44:24,920
The gays.

2989
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,580
You know, they're sensitive.

2990
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:28,260
I was watching.

2991
01:44:29,380 --> 01:44:32,580
I was watching a video from a Russian

2992
01:44:32,580 --> 01:44:35,840
YouTuber, and she was showing all of the

2993
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:39,180
American companies that still operate in Russia under

2994
01:44:39,180 --> 01:44:40,600
all of them.

2995
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,060
Well, it's all under new names.

2996
01:44:43,060 --> 01:44:46,760
So instead of Starbucks, it's Star Coffee or

2997
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:47,120
something.

2998
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:50,680
But there's one fast food restaurant that is

2999
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:52,200
still just has the American name.

3000
01:44:52,260 --> 01:44:53,160
And that's Burger King.

3001
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,520
I can't believe that they're getting away with

3002
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:56,820
that.

3003
01:44:57,820 --> 01:44:59,860
I think KFC still there, isn't it?

3004
01:45:00,220 --> 01:45:01,500
I don't know if it's still called, but

3005
01:45:01,500 --> 01:45:03,920
Burger King, she just she's in the beautiful

3006
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,160
mall, by the way, they just show the

3007
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:06,480
restaurant.

3008
01:45:06,660 --> 01:45:07,060
There it is.

3009
01:45:07,140 --> 01:45:08,440
Burger King in the food court.

3010
01:45:09,420 --> 01:45:11,780
It's like, shouldn't there be sanctions on Burger

3011
01:45:11,780 --> 01:45:12,080
King?

3012
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,640
You know, you're asking the wrong guy.

3013
01:45:15,780 --> 01:45:18,600
Yeah, I thought we couldn't do that.

3014
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:20,120
I thought there was laws against it.

3015
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,760
I guess someone's got Pelosi must have a

3016
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:24,200
lot of Burger King.

3017
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:26,820
It's the home of the Russian Whopper.

3018
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,640
And with that, I think I will thank

3019
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,120
you for your courage and say in the

3020
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:32,600
morning to you, the man who put the

3021
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:34,900
sea in Chatham House in the podcast.

3022
01:45:35,220 --> 01:45:36,300
Say hello to my friend on the other

3023
01:45:36,300 --> 01:45:36,440
end.

3024
01:45:36,480 --> 01:45:38,580
The one and only Mr. John C.

3025
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:39,220
DeVore.

3026
01:45:41,700 --> 01:45:43,480
Well, good morning to you, Mr. Andrew Krill.

3027
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:44,780
So in the morning, all ships and sea

3028
01:45:44,780 --> 01:45:46,220
boots on the ground, feet in the air,

3029
01:45:46,380 --> 01:45:47,680
subs in the water, and the dames and

3030
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:48,340
the knights out there.

3031
01:45:48,340 --> 01:45:50,360
Hello, hello, hello, Charles.

3032
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:51,540
Let me get you there.

3033
01:45:56,060 --> 01:45:57,580
2314 for a Sunday.

3034
01:45:57,980 --> 01:45:59,700
For Sunday, that's high, isn't it?

3035
01:45:59,980 --> 01:46:01,280
It's 200 low.

3036
01:46:01,580 --> 01:46:03,100
Oh, I thought Thursdays were high.

3037
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:05,800
It's 1800 on Thursday, 2400 on Sunday.

3038
01:46:05,820 --> 01:46:06,120
All right.

3039
01:46:06,180 --> 01:46:08,400
Well, it's amazing they're here because it is

3040
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:09,100
the thanksgiving.

3041
01:46:09,480 --> 01:46:10,600
It's the holiday.

3042
01:46:10,900 --> 01:46:12,920
They should be either on the road traveling

3043
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:13,540
back home.

3044
01:46:13,740 --> 01:46:14,280
No, they're not.

3045
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,760
They're all in the troll room going, the

3046
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:17,700
boy's got to say.

3047
01:46:17,700 --> 01:46:20,700
I think Jay and Brennan took off for

3048
01:46:20,700 --> 01:46:21,360
Japan.

3049
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:23,400
Oh, and they're all set, right?

3050
01:46:23,440 --> 01:46:24,400
With Mark and Astrid?

3051
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:25,160
They're all set?

3052
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:26,820
As far as I can tell.

3053
01:46:27,060 --> 01:46:27,280
Yeah.

3054
01:46:27,440 --> 01:46:28,500
You know, they'd be like, well, we didn't

3055
01:46:28,500 --> 01:46:30,360
want to talk to you, we just wanted

3056
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:31,160
to bother them.

3057
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:32,640
She said, they better bother them.

3058
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:34,580
They're really selling themselves short.

3059
01:46:34,580 --> 01:46:36,320
Oh, I gave her a long lecture about

3060
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:36,680
this.

3061
01:46:37,020 --> 01:46:37,380
Good.

3062
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:39,580
They're really selling themselves short if they don't

3063
01:46:39,580 --> 01:46:42,300
go hang out with Dame Astrid and Sir

3064
01:46:42,300 --> 01:46:42,600
Mark.

3065
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:44,160
It'd be a huge mistake.

3066
01:46:45,340 --> 01:46:47,080
Well, as far as I know, they're going

3067
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:47,260
to.

3068
01:46:47,260 --> 01:46:49,940
The one thing they're going to check, you

3069
01:46:49,940 --> 01:46:51,340
know, I always say, well, you can do

3070
01:46:51,340 --> 01:46:53,300
whatever kind of vacation you want.

3071
01:46:53,540 --> 01:46:57,420
But I guess Japan is loaded with these

3072
01:46:57,420 --> 01:47:01,140
new hologram or not hologram, but there's crazy

3073
01:47:01,140 --> 01:47:02,680
museums where you're immersed.

3074
01:47:04,140 --> 01:47:05,380
You go in there and you're in a

3075
01:47:05,380 --> 01:47:07,480
shipwreck and the whole thing's around you.

3076
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:09,880
And there's a lot of videos about this

3077
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:10,180
stuff.

3078
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:12,060
And I guess there's a number of these

3079
01:47:12,060 --> 01:47:13,520
facilities in Japan.

3080
01:47:13,820 --> 01:47:15,100
And I said, you definitely have to go

3081
01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:15,820
there and take pictures.

3082
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:16,840
Oh, that sounds cool.

3083
01:47:17,260 --> 01:47:18,360
Yeah, there's a couple.

3084
01:47:18,460 --> 01:47:19,620
There's some cool stuff, I guess.

3085
01:47:20,300 --> 01:47:22,660
So this is the portion we thank the

3086
01:47:22,660 --> 01:47:23,940
people who have produced the show.

3087
01:47:24,500 --> 01:47:27,540
And by producing, I mean people really produce

3088
01:47:27,540 --> 01:47:31,180
boots on the ground, clips, ideas, insights, experience,

3089
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:32,360
finances.

3090
01:47:32,620 --> 01:47:34,040
All of it is welcome in our value

3091
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:34,920
for value model.

3092
01:47:37,100 --> 01:47:39,180
Actually, I forgot to mention the trolls are

3093
01:47:39,180 --> 01:47:42,040
in the troll room, trollroom.io. And of

3094
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:43,280
course, the modern podcast apps.

3095
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:44,740
You definitely want to get one of those.

3096
01:47:44,740 --> 01:47:48,600
With what's happening, you're going to see a

3097
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:49,540
podcast disappearing.

3098
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:50,940
Silicon Valley is going to take care of

3099
01:47:50,940 --> 01:47:51,100
you.

3100
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:53,360
Podcastapps.com.

3101
01:47:57,620 --> 01:48:01,640
So interestingly, not so controversial choice for art

3102
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:02,660
on the last episode.

3103
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:04,440
In fact, people loved it.

3104
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:06,540
I can say, I don't know what kind

3105
01:48:06,540 --> 01:48:07,440
of response you got.

3106
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,640
We always appreciate the time and talent that

3107
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:13,400
our artists return to us in return for

3108
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,540
the value the show provides, which is not

3109
01:48:15,540 --> 01:48:18,580
in some kind of Patreon-level scheme or

3110
01:48:18,580 --> 01:48:21,420
a bundle or a plus or some kind

3111
01:48:21,420 --> 01:48:24,000
of premium content behind the paywall.

3112
01:48:24,100 --> 01:48:26,400
No, all the premium content is right here.

3113
01:48:26,460 --> 01:48:27,080
We give it to you.

3114
01:48:27,500 --> 01:48:28,020
It's open.

3115
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:29,560
Anybody can do with it what they want.

3116
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:30,140
Enjoy it.

3117
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:31,020
Please just enjoy.

3118
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:32,380
All we ask is if you get any

3119
01:48:32,380 --> 01:48:33,640
value, you send it back to us.

3120
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:37,020
And the farmer's wife brought us the artwork

3121
01:48:37,020 --> 01:48:38,660
for episode 1716.

3122
01:48:38,660 --> 01:48:40,480
We titled it Silver Buckshot.

3123
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:43,380
And we got a note.

3124
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:45,560
We got a note from the farmer's wife.

3125
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:46,260
Yes.

3126
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:47,560
Which I shall read.

3127
01:48:48,460 --> 01:48:50,220
And if you haven't seen it, go to

3128
01:48:50,220 --> 01:48:51,640
noagendaartgenerator.com.

3129
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:53,040
You can see all of the artwork that

3130
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:53,860
our artists submit.

3131
01:48:54,340 --> 01:48:55,360
A lot of it is AI.

3132
01:48:55,540 --> 01:48:56,340
Not all of it, though.

3133
01:48:56,440 --> 01:48:57,320
Certainly not this.

3134
01:48:57,420 --> 01:49:02,380
This was clearly put together by not computerized.

3135
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:04,680
And she says, dear John and Adam, I

3136
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:07,000
was absolutely thrilled just to hear you guys

3137
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:08,680
laugh at the art my boys and I

3138
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:09,200
worked on.

3139
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:11,300
I honestly didn't think it would get picked.

3140
01:49:11,940 --> 01:49:13,480
I need to get a better camera or

3141
01:49:13,480 --> 01:49:15,220
find a better way to scan our homemade

3142
01:49:15,220 --> 01:49:15,500
art.

3143
01:49:15,580 --> 01:49:16,720
No, no, this is fine.

3144
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:17,880
What you did is perfect.

3145
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:20,220
Last time I submitted, the art was solely

3146
01:49:20,220 --> 01:49:21,480
produced by my 10-year-old.

3147
01:49:21,740 --> 01:49:24,080
This time, I literally cut and pasted the

3148
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:26,080
turkey from the 10-year-old's art and

3149
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:27,600
the letter work from the 9-year-old.

3150
01:49:27,660 --> 01:49:28,440
That's with the kerning.

3151
01:49:28,860 --> 01:49:30,860
I really wanted to add more to it.

3152
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,060
So I also pasted the googly eyes.

3153
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:35,520
It took a minute to get one to

3154
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:36,760
be lazy eye for the picture.

3155
01:49:36,820 --> 01:49:38,760
Which, by the way, made the picture work.

3156
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:40,380
It was one of the reasons we thought

3157
01:49:40,380 --> 01:49:42,820
it was just perfect.

3158
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:44,120
Well, wait a minute.

3159
01:49:44,380 --> 01:49:45,480
We picked it first.

3160
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:47,260
And then when you blew it up, you

3161
01:49:47,260 --> 01:49:48,380
noticed the googly eyes.

3162
01:49:48,480 --> 01:49:48,980
Yes, true.

3163
01:49:49,700 --> 01:49:51,040
That just made us laugh.

3164
01:49:51,860 --> 01:49:52,000
Yeah.

3165
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:53,360
We're so honored.

3166
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:55,700
Unlike other artists, I can't wait to hear

3167
01:49:55,700 --> 01:49:56,740
the next art segment.

3168
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,120
We want to improve and get critiques from

3169
01:49:59,120 --> 01:49:59,500
y'all.

3170
01:50:00,180 --> 01:50:03,400
You have no idea how much value I

3171
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:04,240
get out of the show.

3172
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:05,980
And I'm so glad that I was able

3173
01:50:05,980 --> 01:50:06,880
to make y'all laugh.

3174
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:07,480
Thank you again.

3175
01:50:07,540 --> 01:50:09,460
The farmer's wife, age 33.

3176
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:12,160
Homeschool mom to seven.

3177
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:13,480
Seven.

3178
01:50:13,700 --> 01:50:14,000
Wow.

3179
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:14,500
Seven.

3180
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:15,660
That keeps her busy.

3181
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:16,280
Yes.

3182
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:18,420
So that's a homeschool.

3183
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:19,760
That's a mom right there.

3184
01:50:19,900 --> 01:50:21,520
But they already have a artist.

3185
01:50:22,020 --> 01:50:23,760
Professionally, they've already been published.

3186
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:24,800
Published artist.

3187
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:25,660
Published artist, yes.

3188
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:27,700
At the age of nine and 11.

3189
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:28,560
What was the other age?

3190
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:29,400
I don't remember.

3191
01:50:29,820 --> 01:50:31,720
10 and nine, I think, yes.

3192
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,060
It was like, there you have it.

3193
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:36,400
That proves homeschooling.

3194
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:37,600
Yeah, homeschooling works.

3195
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:40,800
And then when you go to the homeschoolers

3196
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:43,160
jamboree this year, don't all the homeschoolers get

3197
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:45,000
together some time to time and do a

3198
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:46,000
jamboree or something?

3199
01:50:46,380 --> 01:50:47,520
Not that I know of, but.

3200
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:48,860
Well, you can say, hey.

3201
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:51,080
They do a lot of meetings.

3202
01:50:51,300 --> 01:50:53,920
There's a lot of, when you're homeschooling, there's

3203
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,660
a lot of little organizations, usually small.

3204
01:50:57,220 --> 01:50:59,880
And they tend to be, some are political,

3205
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:02,140
not political, but some are religious, some aren't.

3206
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:05,260
And some welcome everybody.

3207
01:51:05,260 --> 01:51:07,160
The ones who do the best job on

3208
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:09,180
field trips, in our experience, when we were

3209
01:51:09,180 --> 01:51:11,380
homeschooling, have been the Muslims.

3210
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:12,340
Oh, really?

3211
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:13,400
Oh, interesting.

3212
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:15,220
Yeah, and they're inclusive.

3213
01:51:15,500 --> 01:51:18,320
There's certain Christian groups that literally will not

3214
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:21,140
let you get involved with anything they do

3215
01:51:21,140 --> 01:51:22,180
unless you sign off.

3216
01:51:22,260 --> 01:51:22,820
Oh, no.

3217
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:27,100
And so they're not a very welcoming crowd,

3218
01:51:27,180 --> 01:51:28,180
to be honest about it.

3219
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,160
But the Muslims are, and they do great

3220
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,800
field trips to farms and factories and everything

3221
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:34,340
in between.

3222
01:51:34,340 --> 01:51:36,360
And they're very well structured and organized.

3223
01:51:36,440 --> 01:51:37,780
And there's no religion involved.

3224
01:51:38,980 --> 01:51:42,140
And it's, yeah, that's as far as you

3225
01:51:42,140 --> 01:51:42,260
get.

3226
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:43,500
But your point was valid.

3227
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,540
Whenever they get together in the coalition of

3228
01:51:46,540 --> 01:51:49,340
the willing, they can tell everybody, hey, our

3229
01:51:49,340 --> 01:51:50,840
kids are published artists.

3230
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:53,260
So take that.

3231
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:53,660
Fact.

3232
01:51:53,900 --> 01:51:54,180
Fact.

3233
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:55,720
Take that, Department of Education.

3234
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:57,300
It was good.

3235
01:51:57,480 --> 01:51:58,160
No, we loved it.

3236
01:51:58,460 --> 01:52:01,600
And it was, I mean, it also immediately

3237
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:03,840
proved a point that it doesn't have to

3238
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:04,900
be slick.

3239
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,080
Although this was pretty slick, I got to

3240
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:07,220
say.

3241
01:52:07,340 --> 01:52:09,040
This is actually oddly slick.

3242
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,080
It is oddly slick for what it was.

3243
01:52:11,540 --> 01:52:13,940
As unslick.

3244
01:52:14,540 --> 01:52:17,000
It's hard to describe, but it was clearly

3245
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:17,960
the best piece.

3246
01:52:18,060 --> 01:52:19,620
It was like, we kept looking for it.

3247
01:52:19,820 --> 01:52:21,300
We had pieces we liked.

3248
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,180
I mean, I liked the, was it Scaramanga?

3249
01:52:25,300 --> 01:52:27,620
Had the kids chasing a turkey with knives?

3250
01:52:27,700 --> 01:52:29,600
It was a close second because we do

3251
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:32,540
like a gruesome kids with knives and turkey

3252
01:52:32,540 --> 01:52:32,960
art.

3253
01:52:33,100 --> 01:52:34,580
I think we've had that in the past.

3254
01:52:35,300 --> 01:52:35,400
Yeah.

3255
01:52:35,480 --> 01:52:37,020
So that was a winner.

3256
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:40,320
Capitalist Agenda had a kind of cheesecake, also

3257
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:41,560
with a knife, which was kind of nice.

3258
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:46,240
I used the Capitalist Agenda mission, Impossible Media

3259
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:49,400
with the grinder, grinding at the M5N.

3260
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:50,080
Yeah, that was good.

3261
01:52:50,380 --> 01:52:51,980
M5M and producing No Agenda.

3262
01:52:52,060 --> 01:52:52,960
I used that for the newsletter.

3263
01:52:52,980 --> 01:52:53,520
That was nice.

3264
01:52:53,620 --> 01:52:54,160
Yeah, it was good.

3265
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:57,880
Riley came in with some real art.

3266
01:52:58,020 --> 01:52:58,680
Real art.

3267
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:02,160
But okay, so one, who wants the nipples?

3268
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:03,960
Yeah, that wasn't going to happen, Mike.

3269
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:05,100
You knew that?

3270
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:05,580
That's out.

3271
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,620
And the toad furkey, it was great.

3272
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:10,720
Of course, he's a great artist, but unless

3273
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:13,460
you have the word toad furkey under it,

3274
01:53:13,480 --> 01:53:14,960
you'd never know that it was a toad

3275
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:15,400
furkey.

3276
01:53:16,500 --> 01:53:16,800
Right.

3277
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:18,780
Yeah, people make that mistake.

3278
01:53:19,060 --> 01:53:20,080
That's a common mistake.

3279
01:53:20,140 --> 01:53:21,440
Yeah, yeah, that was too bad.

3280
01:53:21,820 --> 01:53:22,660
There's also a girl.

3281
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:26,100
You liked the girl, the Trad Thanksgiving with

3282
01:53:26,100 --> 01:53:27,520
the girl.

3283
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:29,760
That's the one you were talking about, Capitalist

3284
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:30,060
Agenda.

3285
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:32,160
She's holding a knife and she's going to,

3286
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:34,500
yeah, it's a traditional wife, but ready to

3287
01:53:34,500 --> 01:53:35,200
stab her husband.

3288
01:53:37,660 --> 01:53:41,540
Because he won't let her have control of

3289
01:53:41,540 --> 01:53:41,940
her body.

3290
01:53:42,700 --> 01:53:43,380
Yeah, that's it.

3291
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:44,500
Exactly, exactly.

3292
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:46,240
Oh, that was, yeah, that's Capitalist Agenda.

3293
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:48,140
A lot of them good.

3294
01:53:48,300 --> 01:53:52,400
And it's very hard on an episode where

3295
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:53,720
we are looking for something traditional.

3296
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:54,580
It's not easy.

3297
01:53:55,460 --> 01:53:59,880
And so we congratulate the farmer's wife, homeschooled

3298
01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:00,120
kids.

3299
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:00,660
Good job.

3300
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:01,960
And the farmer's wife, of course.

3301
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:03,620
What does the farmer do?

3302
01:54:03,700 --> 01:54:04,260
Is he a farmer?

3303
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,340
And what kind of farmer is he?

3304
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:08,400
We'd love to know.

3305
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:09,240
Send us a note.

3306
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:10,140
Send us some produce.

3307
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:12,400
Yeah, we want some goodies now.

3308
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:15,720
Congratulations to everyone who participated.

3309
01:54:15,860 --> 01:54:17,140
Of course, a lot of this art shows

3310
01:54:17,140 --> 01:54:18,620
up in the Modern Podcast apps.

3311
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,100
Dreb Scott always putting in chapters and artwork.

3312
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:21,840
We love it.

3313
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:25,160
noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all

3314
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:26,040
of these submissions.

3315
01:54:26,460 --> 01:54:27,460
And you can submit yourself.

3316
01:54:27,540 --> 01:54:28,300
It's open to everybody.

3317
01:54:28,480 --> 01:54:30,100
It's always exciting to participate in.

3318
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:32,100
Now we want to thank the people who

3319
01:54:32,100 --> 01:54:32,900
produce this show.

3320
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:34,820
That would be the executive and associate executive

3321
01:54:34,820 --> 01:54:35,200
producers.

3322
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:37,300
Of course, we thank everyone who comes in

3323
01:54:37,300 --> 01:54:38,480
over $50 or more.

3324
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:39,900
Under that, we don't do it for reasons

3325
01:54:39,900 --> 01:54:40,540
of anonymity.

3326
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:42,880
And we love the sustaining donations where people

3327
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:46,340
just use their PayPal and select an amount

3328
01:54:46,340 --> 01:54:46,960
and a frequency.

3329
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:48,540
And you can keep that going for as

3330
01:54:48,540 --> 01:54:49,120
long as you want.

3331
01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:50,720
This is how a lot of people get

3332
01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:53,200
on the layaway night ordain program and wind

3333
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:54,960
up with one of those coveted rings.

3334
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:57,060
By just doing it for years, it helps

3335
01:54:57,060 --> 01:54:57,380
a lot.

3336
01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:59,440
Sustaining donations are very important.

3337
01:55:00,780 --> 01:55:06,200
We kick it off, though, with our first

3338
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:07,000
executive producer.

3339
01:55:07,180 --> 01:55:09,840
And the way that works is $300 above.

3340
01:55:09,980 --> 01:55:11,560
Executive producer, we read your note.

3341
01:55:11,620 --> 01:55:12,520
That title is real.

3342
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:13,960
You can keep it and use it anywhere

3343
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:15,480
show business credits are recognized.

3344
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:17,460
Like imdb.com.

3345
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:18,600
If you don't have one, you can open

3346
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:18,940
it up.

3347
01:55:19,340 --> 01:55:20,300
$200 or above.

3348
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:22,460
That gets you an associate executive producership.

3349
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:23,340
Olympia.

3350
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:25,200
Wait, not Olympia.

3351
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:25,760
I'm sorry.

3352
01:55:26,980 --> 01:55:30,180
Quint Quint Wine Newell from Olympia, Washington.

3353
01:55:30,420 --> 01:55:35,300
Quint Quint Wine Newell comes in with $350

3354
01:55:35,300 --> 01:55:39,100
.93. I do not see a note.

3355
01:55:39,180 --> 01:55:39,800
Do you have a note?

3356
01:55:40,460 --> 01:55:41,680
I looked up Quint.

3357
01:55:41,780 --> 01:55:42,400
I looked Newell.

3358
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:43,400
I looked up everything.

3359
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,940
Of course, you should use donation in the

3360
01:55:45,940 --> 01:55:47,760
subject line to get our attention for these

3361
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:48,340
sorts of things.

3362
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:48,900
There's nothing.

3363
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:51,580
Then a double up karma is in play

3364
01:55:51,580 --> 01:55:52,060
for you.

3365
01:55:52,180 --> 01:55:52,880
You've got.

3366
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:55,520
Karma.

3367
01:55:56,860 --> 01:55:57,320
All right.

3368
01:55:58,300 --> 01:55:59,700
Then we go on to.

3369
01:56:01,620 --> 01:56:03,540
You pronounce this Ulrich.

3370
01:56:04,100 --> 01:56:04,540
Ulrich.

3371
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:05,280
Ulrich.

3372
01:56:06,340 --> 01:56:06,940
Hurricanes.

3373
01:56:07,260 --> 01:56:07,680
Hurricanes.

3374
01:56:09,420 --> 01:56:10,760
Get the thing Hurricanes.

3375
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:11,460
Hurricanes.

3376
01:56:14,190 --> 01:56:15,730
Umlaut over the O is the U.

3377
01:56:16,070 --> 01:56:17,550
No, it's it's kind of in between.

3378
01:56:17,810 --> 01:56:18,050
Hurricanes.

3379
01:56:19,110 --> 01:56:20,110
It's not Horkins.

3380
01:56:20,210 --> 01:56:20,870
It's Hurricanes.

3381
01:56:21,770 --> 01:56:23,590
I thought it'd be Horkins.

3382
01:56:23,810 --> 01:56:24,670
Well, it's not Dutch.

3383
01:56:24,850 --> 01:56:25,830
So I'm just I'm just guessing.

3384
01:56:27,330 --> 01:56:27,730
I don't know.

3385
01:56:27,850 --> 01:56:28,190
I don't know.

3386
01:56:28,470 --> 01:56:29,090
It doesn't say.

3387
01:56:29,310 --> 01:56:29,490
No.

3388
01:56:29,970 --> 01:56:31,590
But he says, Dear John and Adam, please

3389
01:56:31,590 --> 01:56:33,530
accept my contribution for the best podcast in

3390
01:56:33,530 --> 01:56:33,830
the universe.

3391
01:56:33,950 --> 01:56:35,310
Thank you for the insights and fun you

3392
01:56:35,310 --> 01:56:35,630
bring.

3393
01:56:36,150 --> 01:56:37,330
This is to celebrate.

3394
01:56:37,350 --> 01:56:40,170
This is to celebrate your work.

3395
01:56:40,790 --> 01:56:43,290
Oh, it's also to celebrate to celebrate my

3396
01:56:43,290 --> 01:56:43,650
birthday.

3397
01:56:43,710 --> 01:56:45,110
I'll be turning 62 on Monday.

3398
01:56:45,290 --> 01:56:46,890
He knows Mr. Peepers.

3399
01:56:47,290 --> 01:56:49,530
Probably Monday, the 2nd of December.

3400
01:56:50,270 --> 01:56:51,750
Please put me on the birthday list and

3401
01:56:51,750 --> 01:56:53,470
to submit some talent.

3402
01:56:53,730 --> 01:56:55,250
I just I like, by the way, I

3403
01:56:55,250 --> 01:56:57,130
guess we had some notes from some Australian

3404
01:56:57,130 --> 01:56:57,610
producers.

3405
01:56:58,250 --> 01:56:59,970
And I like the fact that they're finally

3406
01:56:59,970 --> 01:57:01,910
referring to their own prime ministers.

3407
01:57:02,150 --> 01:57:02,650
Elmer Fudd.

3408
01:57:02,670 --> 01:57:03,030
Elmer Fudd.

3409
01:57:03,970 --> 01:57:05,490
Yeah, I noticed that, too.

3410
01:57:06,250 --> 01:57:08,670
Uh, and by the way, we get a

3411
01:57:08,670 --> 01:57:09,910
lot of notes from people that we don't

3412
01:57:09,910 --> 01:57:11,730
read necessarily on the show, but we use

3413
01:57:11,730 --> 01:57:14,250
for backgrounders for our own enjoyment.

3414
01:57:14,710 --> 01:57:17,070
Well, not enjoyment, but for our own benefit.

3415
01:57:17,490 --> 01:57:19,850
Benefits us to have these sorts of background

3416
01:57:19,850 --> 01:57:23,650
information to express on the show.

3417
01:57:24,050 --> 01:57:26,090
And to submit some talent, he continues.

3418
01:57:26,270 --> 01:57:28,570
I just released my first album of A

3419
01:57:28,570 --> 01:57:29,690
.I. creative music.

3420
01:57:30,130 --> 01:57:33,090
My concept album deals with the joy of

3421
01:57:33,090 --> 01:57:33,990
working in software.

3422
01:57:34,750 --> 01:57:35,130
Joy.

3423
01:57:35,730 --> 01:57:36,410
Oh, joy.

3424
01:57:36,870 --> 01:57:39,990
The joy of working on software products and

3425
01:57:39,990 --> 01:57:41,870
playing some bullshit bingo.

3426
01:57:42,510 --> 01:57:45,790
I created this album using my lyrics with

3427
01:57:45,790 --> 01:57:46,630
my mother tongue.

3428
01:57:46,710 --> 01:57:48,110
Germany is a Deutschlander.

3429
01:57:48,710 --> 01:57:53,170
I am using the pseudonym Boltzmann Machine.

3430
01:57:53,450 --> 01:57:54,350
Boltzmann Machine.

3431
01:57:54,970 --> 01:57:59,330
And the first album is called Good Krautrock

3432
01:57:59,330 --> 01:58:04,710
Fashion Arbeit Nutzbar Maschugen.

3433
01:58:05,570 --> 01:58:06,830
I think I'm close.

3434
01:58:08,810 --> 01:58:10,410
Yes, Germany's like to put all these words

3435
01:58:10,410 --> 01:58:10,730
together.

3436
01:58:10,870 --> 01:58:13,010
He's on Wavelake at Boltzmann Machine.

3437
01:58:13,250 --> 01:58:15,210
B-O-L-T-Z-M-A-N

3438
01:58:15,210 --> 01:58:17,630
-N-M-A-S-C-H-I-N

3439
01:58:17,630 --> 01:58:17,810
-E.

3440
01:58:17,950 --> 01:58:19,510
Boltzmann Machine on Wavelake.

3441
01:58:19,630 --> 01:58:20,650
Value for value music.

3442
01:58:20,750 --> 01:58:21,030
Beautiful.

3443
01:58:21,590 --> 01:58:25,570
He's also getting, he's also Bo's Brain A

3444
01:58:25,570 --> 01:58:26,770
.I. on X.

3445
01:58:27,190 --> 01:58:28,530
You might want to check him out.

3446
01:58:28,610 --> 01:58:30,290
There's probably links to all his other stuff.

3447
01:58:30,910 --> 01:58:31,570
Jingle request.

3448
01:58:31,830 --> 01:58:32,330
Little girl.

3449
01:58:32,450 --> 01:58:32,650
Yay.

3450
01:58:32,790 --> 01:58:33,050
Jobs.

3451
01:58:33,150 --> 01:58:34,570
Karma for my girlfriend, Eva.

3452
01:58:35,350 --> 01:58:37,430
Using the Trump jingle.

3453
01:58:37,710 --> 01:58:38,430
Four more years.

3454
01:58:38,650 --> 01:58:40,090
Yours, Ulrich.

3455
01:58:41,290 --> 01:58:41,810
Jobs.

3456
01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:43,170
Or Ulrich.

3457
01:58:45,530 --> 01:58:46,310
There you go.

3458
01:58:46,310 --> 01:58:46,730
Ulrich.

3459
01:58:47,050 --> 01:58:47,910
You've got karma.

3460
01:58:48,090 --> 01:58:48,430
Ulrich.

3461
01:58:48,650 --> 01:58:49,890
Talked all over the karma.

3462
01:58:50,890 --> 01:58:51,310
Ulrich.

3463
01:58:51,530 --> 01:58:52,410
You tainted the karma.

3464
01:58:53,310 --> 01:58:54,310
Yes, he's got karma.

3465
01:58:54,690 --> 01:58:57,890
Sir Jake and Tom are in Princetown, Massachusetts.

3466
01:58:58,490 --> 01:58:58,590
Provincetown.

3467
01:58:58,890 --> 01:58:59,690
Provincetown, thank you.

3468
01:59:00,650 --> 01:59:02,550
333.33, one of our favorite numbers.

3469
01:59:02,690 --> 01:59:03,870
Happy holidays, Adam and John.

3470
01:59:03,970 --> 01:59:06,830
Long overdue donation from the Married No Agenda

3471
01:59:06,830 --> 01:59:07,170
Gays.

3472
01:59:07,350 --> 01:59:08,550
Ah, yes.

3473
01:59:08,690 --> 01:59:10,070
Boy, it's been a long time we heard

3474
01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:10,510
from them.

3475
01:59:11,530 --> 01:59:14,830
Jake and Jacob or Tom and Tomas.

3476
01:59:15,590 --> 01:59:17,210
Remember, I had lunch with them in Austin.

3477
01:59:17,330 --> 01:59:18,350
Man, that's a long time ago.

3478
01:59:18,350 --> 01:59:21,590
That must be, gosh, eight, nine years ago.

3479
01:59:22,530 --> 01:59:25,310
We were listening to this year's Thanksgiving episode

3480
01:59:25,870 --> 01:59:27,870
when, over the course of five minutes, you

3481
01:59:27,870 --> 01:59:29,090
mentioned two names.

3482
01:59:29,630 --> 01:59:31,330
We knew we had to donate to share

3483
01:59:31,330 --> 01:59:33,910
a funny story of the secret connection that

3484
01:59:33,910 --> 01:59:36,510
Alec Baldwin and Rene Duresta have.

3485
01:59:37,070 --> 01:59:39,450
Rene Duresta is the woman who was on

3486
01:59:39,450 --> 01:59:46,330
the NPR clips, who you excoriated for her

3487
01:59:46,330 --> 01:59:50,950
analysis of how the modern propaganda machine works,

3488
01:59:51,570 --> 01:59:52,570
if you recall.

3489
01:59:52,930 --> 01:59:53,990
No, I don't recall.

3490
01:59:54,110 --> 01:59:55,710
I mean, I do recall, but I don't

3491
01:59:55,710 --> 01:59:59,190
recall the analysis of how modern propaganda— What

3492
01:59:59,190 --> 02:00:00,410
did she say that I— No, that was

3493
02:00:00,410 --> 02:00:07,190
about podcasts and how they kowtow audience capture

3494
02:00:07,190 --> 02:00:09,630
and that's how they keep their views up

3495
02:00:09,630 --> 02:00:10,690
and how they make their money.

3496
02:00:11,010 --> 02:00:12,590
So you don't remember any of this?

3497
02:00:13,790 --> 02:00:15,170
It was only two shows ago.

3498
02:00:15,470 --> 02:00:17,410
I vaguely remember it.

3499
02:00:17,470 --> 02:00:17,910
Oh, wow.

3500
02:00:18,430 --> 02:00:21,550
Well, I got a good memory, but sometimes

3501
02:00:21,550 --> 02:00:23,610
my own analysis is not worth remembering.

3502
02:00:23,790 --> 02:00:27,950
Okay, well, Rene Duresta was also involved in

3503
02:00:27,950 --> 02:00:32,050
the deception in the Alabama Senate race that

3504
02:00:32,050 --> 02:00:33,170
Reid Hoffman did.

3505
02:00:33,750 --> 02:00:35,650
Oh, yeah, yeah, she.

3506
02:00:35,650 --> 02:00:37,330
Yes, yes.

3507
02:00:37,330 --> 02:00:37,630
Okay.

3508
02:00:37,870 --> 02:00:39,790
Yes, so she was involved in that under

3509
02:00:39,790 --> 02:00:41,010
the guise of research.

3510
02:00:41,190 --> 02:00:42,090
Yeah, okay, fine.

3511
02:00:42,870 --> 02:00:45,530
So Alec Baldwin and Rene Duresta, back in

3512
02:00:45,530 --> 02:00:50,410
the early 2000s, Tom or Thomas spent the

3513
02:00:50,410 --> 02:00:52,130
summer living in a small New York apartment

3514
02:00:52,130 --> 02:00:54,470
while working at a summer internship in college.

3515
02:00:54,970 --> 02:00:56,910
We had squeezed five of us into a

3516
02:00:56,910 --> 02:00:59,150
small third-floor walk-up to save money.

3517
02:00:59,230 --> 02:01:02,430
That's right, five people, two bedrooms, one bathroom,

3518
02:01:02,670 --> 02:01:03,430
one dog.

3519
02:01:03,430 --> 02:01:06,130
Of my four roommates, the two guys were

3520
02:01:06,130 --> 02:01:07,030
friends from college.

3521
02:01:07,150 --> 02:01:07,750
The two girls?

3522
02:01:08,290 --> 02:01:09,650
One was Rene Duresta.

3523
02:01:10,030 --> 02:01:10,430
The other?

3524
02:01:11,050 --> 02:01:12,670
Alec Baldwin's current wife.

3525
02:01:13,670 --> 02:01:14,610
Lots of funny stories.

3526
02:01:14,610 --> 02:01:14,930
Hilaria?

3527
02:01:15,330 --> 02:01:19,070
Yes, lots of funny stories to share if

3528
02:01:19,070 --> 02:01:20,610
and when we make it to a meetup.

3529
02:01:21,410 --> 02:01:23,790
Oh, we want these stories.

3530
02:01:23,790 --> 02:01:25,450
We want stories, man.

3531
02:01:25,630 --> 02:01:27,330
Don't worry, we'll keep you.

3532
02:01:27,470 --> 02:01:27,990
Hilaria.

3533
02:01:28,550 --> 02:01:30,510
I'm going to give those guys karma for

3534
02:01:30,510 --> 02:01:30,610
that.

3535
02:01:30,610 --> 02:01:30,790
Wait a minute.

3536
02:01:30,790 --> 02:01:31,310
What?

3537
02:01:32,010 --> 02:01:35,170
So Rene Duresta and Hilaria were both in

3538
02:01:35,170 --> 02:01:36,990
broommates with a bunch of other guys in

3539
02:01:36,990 --> 02:01:37,690
this situation?

3540
02:01:38,150 --> 02:01:38,730
And a dog?

3541
02:01:38,890 --> 02:01:39,550
And a dog?

3542
02:01:40,810 --> 02:01:41,830
Who knew?

3543
02:01:42,750 --> 02:01:45,550
The No Agenda Married Gays knew, and they're

3544
02:01:45,550 --> 02:01:47,010
going to send us a note and tell

3545
02:01:47,010 --> 02:01:47,470
us more.

3546
02:01:47,690 --> 02:01:49,110
You've got karma.

3547
02:01:49,330 --> 02:01:51,650
Because that's cool.

3548
02:01:52,450 --> 02:01:54,250
That is an interesting connection.

3549
02:01:55,150 --> 02:01:55,510
Indeed.

3550
02:01:55,770 --> 02:01:56,370
Thank you, guys.

3551
02:01:57,450 --> 02:01:59,610
That's pretty, oh, that is good.

3552
02:02:00,450 --> 02:02:00,870
Surplus.

3553
02:02:01,070 --> 02:02:03,490
Surplus in India, what?

3554
02:02:03,870 --> 02:02:04,290
Indialantic?

3555
02:02:04,710 --> 02:02:05,510
Indialantic, Florida?

3556
02:02:06,530 --> 02:02:07,350
Indialantic, Florida?

3557
02:02:07,490 --> 02:02:08,450
That's the name of a town?

3558
02:02:08,730 --> 02:02:10,330
It's Indialantic.

3559
02:02:11,310 --> 02:02:12,890
It sounds like it's Indialantic.

3560
02:02:12,910 --> 02:02:13,990
I think it's Indialantic.

3561
02:02:15,230 --> 02:02:19,850
Uh, 333.33. He sends a note in,

3562
02:02:19,930 --> 02:02:21,990
paper note, because he sent a check for

3563
02:02:21,990 --> 02:02:22,510
333.

3564
02:02:24,910 --> 02:02:26,610
There's a title change coming up for him

3565
02:02:26,610 --> 02:02:27,230
later in the show.

3566
02:02:27,230 --> 02:02:28,450
Greetings, John and Adam.

3567
02:02:28,770 --> 02:02:32,050
With this donation, I have reached the baronet

3568
02:02:32,050 --> 02:02:32,870
title.

3569
02:02:33,070 --> 02:02:33,410
Nice.

3570
02:02:33,670 --> 02:02:34,330
Accounting included.

3571
02:02:34,890 --> 02:02:36,470
A fun fact for John.

3572
02:02:37,130 --> 02:02:40,470
His wedding day was August 8, 1988.

3573
02:02:41,270 --> 02:02:41,910
88888.

3574
02:02:42,210 --> 02:02:44,370
This was also the date of the first

3575
02:02:44,370 --> 02:02:50,610
ever game, game, oh, game under lights at

3576
02:02:50,610 --> 02:02:51,770
Wrigley Field, Chicago.

3577
02:02:52,090 --> 02:02:52,490
Wow.

3578
02:02:53,370 --> 02:02:54,870
Oh, wow.

3579
02:02:55,470 --> 02:02:56,930
Boy, let me write that down.

3580
02:02:57,510 --> 02:03:00,470
Thank you, gentlemen, for creating a phenomenal show.

3581
02:03:01,030 --> 02:03:05,250
Sincerely, surplus to requirements.

3582
02:03:05,750 --> 02:03:05,850
Okay.

3583
02:03:06,050 --> 02:03:06,450
Nice.

3584
02:03:08,170 --> 02:03:10,370
Uh, Aditya Trimurti.

3585
02:03:12,070 --> 02:03:15,090
She sounds like she, well, she's from either

3586
02:03:15,090 --> 02:03:16,450
India or Indiana.

3587
02:03:16,730 --> 02:03:17,730
I don't know which one.

3588
02:03:18,130 --> 02:03:18,530
$300.

3589
02:03:19,030 --> 02:03:19,290
That's India.

3590
02:03:19,470 --> 02:03:20,050
That would be India.

3591
02:03:20,590 --> 02:03:21,110
Aditya.

3592
02:03:21,210 --> 02:03:22,150
Well, thank you, Aditya.

3593
02:03:22,310 --> 02:03:23,170
This is our second.

3594
02:03:23,330 --> 02:03:24,170
She must be Brahmin.

3595
02:03:24,530 --> 02:03:25,450
She's got a credit card.

3596
02:03:26,150 --> 02:03:27,110
My donation.

3597
02:03:27,450 --> 02:03:28,710
As much as I can afford.

3598
02:03:28,970 --> 02:03:30,370
No jingles, no karma.

3599
02:03:30,530 --> 02:03:31,370
Well, thank you, Aditya.

3600
02:03:31,510 --> 02:03:32,430
We appreciate that.

3601
02:03:33,050 --> 02:03:35,550
Actually, it's my, but she says no jingles,

3602
02:03:35,650 --> 02:03:35,910
Ann.

3603
02:03:36,330 --> 02:03:38,570
Yeah, I'm just guessing she meant no karma.

3604
02:03:41,780 --> 02:03:42,740
Elizabeth Borazon.

3605
02:03:43,180 --> 02:03:43,920
Ah, Borazon.

3606
02:03:44,460 --> 02:03:44,660
Yes.

3607
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:45,580
She's an old favorite.

3608
02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:47,460
She's been with us forever.

3609
02:03:47,720 --> 02:03:48,040
Dane Beth.

3610
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:48,680
Tucson, Arizona.

3611
02:03:49,300 --> 02:03:50,760
And she's only 30.

3612
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:52,700
222, 22.

3613
02:03:52,940 --> 02:03:53,980
She's a row of ducks.

3614
02:03:55,820 --> 02:03:56,600
Hi, old boys.

3615
02:03:56,600 --> 02:03:58,960
Here's my annual birthday gift to myself.

3616
02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:01,040
12-2 at 2.

3617
02:04:01,140 --> 02:04:04,460
She was born on 12-2 at 222.

3618
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:04,980
Wow.

3619
02:04:05,580 --> 02:04:07,940
Thus, 222.22 donation.

3620
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:13,740
It should actually be 12222.22. It's okay.

3621
02:04:13,900 --> 02:04:14,560
We'll let her slide.

3622
02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:15,540
We'll let her slide.

3623
02:04:16,300 --> 02:04:17,820
Election day karma works.

3624
02:04:20,540 --> 02:04:24,880
My boss's margin of victory was the folks

3625
02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:27,000
who voted in person on election day.

3626
02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:29,840
Oh, yeah, it was a local election.

3627
02:04:30,540 --> 02:04:30,960
Oh, okay.

3628
02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:32,460
How weird is that?

3629
02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:34,360
She says with a capital weird.

3630
02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:36,860
A reminder, slaves.

3631
02:04:37,100 --> 02:04:41,840
The 805 rooftop meetup in Golita is this

3632
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:43,220
Thursday, 12-5.

3633
02:04:43,520 --> 02:04:44,000
Golita?

3634
02:04:44,180 --> 02:04:45,480
This is a Golita in Arizona?

3635
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:46,520
I guess so.

3636
02:04:47,100 --> 02:04:48,780
We'll toast the last four years.

3637
02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:51,400
Dane Beth, the Baroness of Baja, Arizona.

3638
02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:54,460
Yes, we are in the last four years

3639
02:04:54,460 --> 02:04:55,640
of the season of reveal.

3640
02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:58,340
And there's Eli the Coffee Guy from Bensonville,

3641
02:04:58,440 --> 02:05:00,440
Illinois, 212 and a penny.

3642
02:05:00,980 --> 02:05:03,100
Gentlemen, thank you for an excellent Thanksgiving show.

3643
02:05:03,660 --> 02:05:05,160
Also, thank you to all the No Agenda

3644
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:07,380
producers who sent us kind messages this weekend

3645
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:10,220
complimenting us on our new and improved website.

3646
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:13,140
We have a site-wide sale going on

3647
02:05:13,140 --> 02:05:14,980
through Monday, Cyber Monday.

3648
02:05:15,380 --> 02:05:19,140
So visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and grab some coffee.

3649
02:05:19,500 --> 02:05:20,320
Stay caffeinated.

3650
02:05:20,580 --> 02:05:21,960
Eli the Coffee Guy.

3651
02:05:22,580 --> 02:05:26,340
Anonymous is in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 210-60.

3652
02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:30,580
John and Adam, Adam and John, please consider

3653
02:05:30,580 --> 02:05:33,660
this my long overdue de-douching donation.

3654
02:05:35,340 --> 02:05:37,160
You've been de-douched.

3655
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:39,960
I would like to remain anonymous, but also

3656
02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:43,160
wanted to tell you that you're both awesome.

3657
02:05:45,340 --> 02:05:45,900
Okay.

3658
02:05:46,240 --> 02:05:46,660
Yeah.

3659
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:47,380
Love the show.

3660
02:05:47,480 --> 02:05:48,500
Keep up the great work.

3661
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:50,280
Thank you, Anonymous.

3662
02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:54,420
Danielle Williams, Mount Shasta, California, 210-60.

3663
02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:56,980
Also associate executive producer credit for you.

3664
02:05:57,060 --> 02:05:58,600
Says, I couldn't listen for a few shows

3665
02:05:58,600 --> 02:05:59,780
and I really missed you guys.

3666
02:06:00,060 --> 02:06:02,400
So here's some treasure to say, thanks for

3667
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:02,800
the show.

3668
02:06:03,060 --> 02:06:04,860
It adds a lot of value to my

3669
02:06:04,860 --> 02:06:06,680
life, which is all we ask for.

3670
02:06:06,900 --> 02:06:07,620
Thank you, Danielle.

3671
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:10,220
And finally on our list, this is a

3672
02:06:10,220 --> 02:06:12,800
short list that is a short donation segment.

3673
02:06:13,020 --> 02:06:15,340
Linda Lou Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado, of course.

3674
02:06:16,340 --> 02:06:20,260
She asks for a Jobs Karma for a

3675
02:06:20,260 --> 02:06:21,940
resume, she says, that gets results.

3676
02:06:22,580 --> 02:06:24,740
Visit ImageMakersInc.com for all your go-to

3677
02:06:24,740 --> 02:06:28,440
executive resume and job search needs.

3678
02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:29,240
Almost got through it.

3679
02:06:29,320 --> 02:06:31,140
This is ImageMakersInc with a K.

3680
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:33,780
Work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and

3681
02:06:33,780 --> 02:06:35,180
writer of resumes.

3682
02:06:35,780 --> 02:06:38,980
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

3683
02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:40,720
Let's vote for jobs.

3684
02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:43,920
That's it.

3685
02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:46,420
That wraps up our executive and associate executive

3686
02:06:46,420 --> 02:06:48,500
producers for episode 1717.

3687
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:49,220
Thank you.

3688
02:06:49,620 --> 02:06:51,100
You all have those credits now that you

3689
02:06:51,100 --> 02:06:53,620
can run off to LinkedIn or imdb.com

3690
02:06:53,620 --> 02:06:55,900
immediately to claim them, put them out there

3691
02:06:55,900 --> 02:06:57,940
so everybody knows that you are an executive

3692
02:06:57,940 --> 02:06:59,960
or an associate executive producer of the best

3693
02:06:59,960 --> 02:07:01,100
podcast in the universe.

3694
02:07:01,580 --> 02:07:03,660
I will be thanking everybody $50 and above

3695
02:07:03,660 --> 02:07:04,300
in a little bit.

3696
02:07:04,380 --> 02:07:06,400
And also one more time, thank you for

3697
02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:08,660
those who are sustaining us with your sustaining

3698
02:07:08,660 --> 02:07:12,680
donations, any amount, any frequency, go to noagendadonations

3699
02:07:12,680 --> 02:07:13,260
.com.

3700
02:07:13,260 --> 02:07:15,380
That's noagendadonations.com.

3701
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:17,600
Thank you for supporting 1717.

3702
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:19,160
Our formula is this.

3703
02:07:20,980 --> 02:07:22,500
We hit people in the mouth.

3704
02:07:37,700 --> 02:07:40,320
There was a bit of a bit of

3705
02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:43,280
a reveal in Chicago that took place, which

3706
02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:45,640
is kind of interesting for the rest of

3707
02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:46,140
the country.

3708
02:07:46,140 --> 02:07:50,060
This is the incredible scandal of the migrant

3709
02:07:50,060 --> 02:07:50,500
housing.

3710
02:07:50,620 --> 02:07:51,700
I don't know if you followed this at

3711
02:07:51,700 --> 02:07:51,960
all.

3712
02:07:52,540 --> 02:07:52,980
A little bit.

3713
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:56,020
Because this is, of course, something that's taken

3714
02:07:56,020 --> 02:07:57,380
place in all.

3715
02:07:57,480 --> 02:07:59,720
This reminds me a bit of the PPP

3716
02:07:59,720 --> 02:08:03,620
loan scandal where all the rich people who

3717
02:08:03,620 --> 02:08:06,640
had companies were getting loans from the government.

3718
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:08,580
They didn't have to pay back during COVID.

3719
02:08:09,500 --> 02:08:11,780
Really was quite an enormous.

3720
02:08:12,340 --> 02:08:13,700
It was a total scam.

3721
02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:15,500
Here's the lead in.

3722
02:08:15,500 --> 02:08:16,880
Consider these numbers.

3723
02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:19,960
More than 6,000 people still live in

3724
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:21,240
city-run migrant shelters.

3725
02:08:22,620 --> 02:08:25,400
That means costs are still adding up.

3726
02:08:25,740 --> 02:08:28,400
Since August of 2022, the city of Chicago

3727
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:31,540
has spent more than $400 million, according to

3728
02:08:31,540 --> 02:08:32,820
the city's spending website.

3729
02:08:33,420 --> 02:08:37,020
Nearly $253 million went to one private company,

3730
02:08:37,460 --> 02:08:40,540
Kansas-based Favorite Healthcare Staffing, which staffs the

3731
02:08:40,540 --> 02:08:40,860
shelters.

3732
02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:45,100
Another $76 million went to Equitable Social Solutions.

3733
02:08:46,360 --> 02:08:49,920
That company partnered with another called Reloshare, which

3734
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:52,660
helped identify and sign lease agreements with property

3735
02:08:52,660 --> 02:08:55,340
owners of the buildings that eventually became the

3736
02:08:55,340 --> 02:08:56,020
migrant shelters.

3737
02:08:56,300 --> 02:08:57,980
That's where a number of those leases are.

3738
02:08:58,080 --> 02:08:59,860
But when we asked the city months ago

3739
02:08:59,860 --> 02:09:02,280
for copies of these lease agreements, we were

3740
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:04,280
given just nine out of 27.

3741
02:09:04,700 --> 02:09:07,180
The use of these private companies has helped

3742
02:09:07,180 --> 02:09:10,260
mask from public view where the public dollars

3743
02:09:10,260 --> 02:09:10,980
have flowed.

3744
02:09:10,980 --> 02:09:14,200
What we didn't know until now is how

3745
02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:16,160
much the property owners of the migrant shelters

3746
02:09:16,160 --> 02:09:16,840
were earning.

3747
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:19,460
But thanks to a new lawsuit, we're being

3748
02:09:19,460 --> 02:09:21,000
provided some more clarity.

3749
02:09:21,220 --> 02:09:23,380
And this is where it gets super interesting

3750
02:09:23,380 --> 02:09:25,260
because, man, all you had to do was

3751
02:09:25,260 --> 02:09:29,380
buy a property, get it financed, and then

3752
02:09:29,380 --> 02:09:31,700
just have your buddies on the inside of

3753
02:09:31,700 --> 02:09:33,920
any city in the United States give you

3754
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:36,500
the contract, which is exactly, if you recall,

3755
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:38,980
why the De Follock family in the Netherlands,

3756
02:09:39,140 --> 02:09:42,100
remember the family split up and there was

3757
02:09:42,100 --> 02:09:44,020
a feud within the family.

3758
02:09:44,180 --> 02:09:46,340
They own all these hotels in the Netherlands,

3759
02:09:46,780 --> 02:09:50,740
and one of them was basically dealing with

3760
02:09:50,740 --> 02:09:51,260
the government.

3761
02:09:51,900 --> 02:09:53,660
And they were taking all kinds of money,

3762
02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:56,280
way in excess of what the hotel rooms

3763
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:57,020
actually cost.

3764
02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:57,860
Do you remember that?

3765
02:09:58,360 --> 02:09:59,080
Yeah, vaguely.

3766
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:00,920
Well, the scam is everywhere.

3767
02:10:01,420 --> 02:10:04,160
A lending company filed this lawsuit last month

3768
02:10:04,160 --> 02:10:07,100
against two Chicago developers, alleging they did not

3769
02:10:07,100 --> 02:10:08,760
make it clear when they signed a loan

3770
02:10:08,760 --> 02:10:10,660
agreement that the building in the West Loop

3771
02:10:10,660 --> 02:10:12,100
would be used to house migrants.

3772
02:10:12,580 --> 02:10:14,500
What is not in dispute is that the

3773
02:10:14,500 --> 02:10:16,960
owners of the Ogden Shelter are paid $150

3774
02:10:16,960 --> 02:10:19,880
,000 a month by ReloShare as part of

3775
02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:20,580
a use agreement.

3776
02:10:21,180 --> 02:10:23,240
That means in a year's time, they'd receive

3777
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:24,900
more than $1.8 million.

3778
02:10:25,780 --> 02:10:28,680
The lease agreement also calls for additional payments

3779
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:31,620
of up to $400,000 if the number

3780
02:10:31,620 --> 02:10:35,000
of migrants inside the Ogden Shelter exceeds 650.

3781
02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:38,340
The latest figures show more than 700 people

3782
02:10:38,340 --> 02:10:39,400
still live here.

3783
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:41,560
If there are public dollars involved, shouldn't the

3784
02:10:41,560 --> 02:10:42,540
public know where they flow?

3785
02:10:42,780 --> 02:10:43,260
100 percent.

3786
02:10:43,380 --> 02:10:45,860
Back in March, Alderman Andre Vasquez, the chair

3787
02:10:45,860 --> 02:10:48,300
of the City Council's Migrant Committee, told us

3788
02:10:48,300 --> 02:10:50,820
aldermen themselves have had a hard time accounting

3789
02:10:50,820 --> 02:10:51,700
for all the spending.

3790
02:10:51,780 --> 02:10:52,580
I guess that's still a question.

3791
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:55,040
We attempted to ask Mayor Brandon Johnson about

3792
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:55,820
this at the time.

3793
02:10:56,080 --> 02:10:56,720
He said this.

3794
02:10:57,020 --> 02:10:58,200
We're meeting you right where you are.

3795
02:10:58,440 --> 02:11:00,700
Were it not for this new lawsuit, the

3796
02:11:00,700 --> 02:11:03,000
public would have no idea how much these

3797
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:04,500
property owners are earning.

3798
02:11:04,500 --> 02:11:05,780
All right, good afternoon, everyone.

3799
02:11:05,940 --> 02:11:06,200
Thank you.

3800
02:11:06,260 --> 02:11:07,980
We pressed the mayor about this last week

3801
02:11:07,980 --> 02:11:10,100
and asked if he would consider adding the

3802
02:11:10,100 --> 02:11:11,480
information to the city's website.

3803
02:11:12,180 --> 02:11:12,860
He said this.

3804
02:11:13,040 --> 02:11:15,320
We have given an accurate account of how

3805
02:11:15,320 --> 02:11:16,180
dollars have been spent.

3806
02:11:18,160 --> 02:11:18,720
That's it?

3807
02:11:19,060 --> 02:11:21,580
Is there anything that would preclude your administration

3808
02:11:21,580 --> 02:11:23,380
from sharing that level of detail?

3809
02:11:23,380 --> 02:11:25,740
There's no information that has been kept from

3810
02:11:25,740 --> 02:11:25,960
you.

3811
02:11:26,380 --> 02:11:29,100
Johnson then reiterated talking points he's made before,

3812
02:11:29,260 --> 02:11:32,380
how he's renegotiated contracts to save taxpayer money,

3813
02:11:32,820 --> 02:11:35,140
and how Congress has failed to provide additional

3814
02:11:35,140 --> 02:11:36,120
financial relief.

3815
02:11:36,620 --> 02:11:39,700
He also doubled down incorrectly, stating that all

3816
02:11:39,700 --> 02:11:41,380
spending information is available.

3817
02:11:41,580 --> 02:11:43,140
That information is available to you, sir?

3818
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:44,380
Not all of it, though, is, sir.

3819
02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:44,840
I mean, that's the point.

3820
02:11:44,840 --> 02:11:46,560
Can you give me a specific example of

3821
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:47,120
what's not available?

3822
02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:50,020
The Ogden Shelter in the West Loop, that's

3823
02:11:50,020 --> 02:11:51,460
what is spelled out in this lawsuit, that

3824
02:11:51,460 --> 02:11:54,040
they get $150,000 just for being the

3825
02:11:54,040 --> 02:11:55,500
property owner per month.

3826
02:11:55,980 --> 02:11:58,460
Nowhere is that available on the city's spending

3827
02:11:58,460 --> 02:11:58,880
website.

3828
02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:01,640
My question, again, is simply, is there anything

3829
02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:03,420
that would preclude you from including that level

3830
02:12:03,420 --> 02:12:03,840
of detail?

3831
02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:05,140
You guys have said you're transparent.

3832
02:12:05,360 --> 02:12:06,260
Why not show it?

3833
02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:08,300
All of the information related to the spending

3834
02:12:08,300 --> 02:12:09,340
of this mission is available.

3835
02:12:13,320 --> 02:12:14,560
What a scam.

3836
02:12:15,400 --> 02:12:16,880
There's, you know, this is going, like you

3837
02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:18,200
said, because it was in Holland.

3838
02:12:18,620 --> 02:12:20,060
I want to play, this is, I want

3839
02:12:20,060 --> 02:12:21,000
you to, do you have more clips?

3840
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:21,980
No, no, that's it.

3841
02:12:22,560 --> 02:12:24,220
Oh, well, I want to play this clip

3842
02:12:24,220 --> 02:12:26,180
that, I was told this would be a

3843
02:12:26,180 --> 02:12:27,320
good clip to interrupt you with.

3844
02:12:27,320 --> 02:12:29,140
I want to play this because this is,

3845
02:12:29,180 --> 02:12:30,680
this is Starmer.

3846
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:33,140
Oh, yes, yeah.

3847
02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:36,380
Talking about immigration and what the Tories did

3848
02:12:36,380 --> 02:12:37,360
when they were in office.

3849
02:12:37,820 --> 02:12:40,380
This, I'm wondering now, after you play this

3850
02:12:40,380 --> 02:12:43,560
stuff about Chicago, what kind of a worldwide

3851
02:12:43,560 --> 02:12:45,300
phenomenon are we dealing with?

3852
02:12:45,400 --> 02:12:48,840
It almost seems as though the borders were

3853
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:51,940
left open on purpose, just for the purposes

3854
02:12:51,940 --> 02:12:53,740
of gouging the taxpayer.

3855
02:12:53,740 --> 02:12:56,540
What the British people are owed is an

3856
02:12:56,540 --> 02:13:00,520
explanation, because a failure on this scale isn't

3857
02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:01,840
just bad luck.

3858
02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:04,800
It isn't a global trend or taking your

3859
02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:05,540
eye off the ball.

3860
02:13:05,860 --> 02:13:08,260
No, this is a different order of failure.

3861
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:12,460
This happened by design, not accident.

3862
02:13:13,780 --> 02:13:18,020
Policies were reformed deliberately to liberalize immigration.

3863
02:13:18,980 --> 02:13:22,620
Brexit was used for that purpose to turn

3864
02:13:22,620 --> 02:13:26,480
Britain into a one nation experiment in open

3865
02:13:26,480 --> 02:13:27,060
borders.

3866
02:13:27,900 --> 02:13:29,020
Global Britain.

3867
02:13:29,900 --> 02:13:31,140
Remember that slogan?

3868
02:13:32,020 --> 02:13:33,440
That is what they meant.

3869
02:13:34,060 --> 02:13:37,140
A policy with no support of which they

3870
02:13:37,140 --> 02:13:39,220
then pretended wasn't happening.

3871
02:13:40,240 --> 02:13:42,460
I think it, I think it certainly was

3872
02:13:42,460 --> 02:13:43,900
a global phenomenon.

3873
02:13:43,900 --> 02:13:46,680
And in the United States, I'm pretty sure

3874
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:49,940
the way the city of Chicago did it,

3875
02:13:50,300 --> 02:13:53,160
and most of the cities, is they put

3876
02:13:53,160 --> 02:13:57,220
one of those migrant resettlement NGOs or non

3877
02:13:57,220 --> 02:13:59,480
-profits in the middle, and that's where all

3878
02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:00,880
the shenanigans take place.

3879
02:14:02,260 --> 02:14:03,600
It's got to be that.

3880
02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:07,000
I think it's global in the sense that

3881
02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:08,980
it's all Northern Hemisphere.

3882
02:14:09,140 --> 02:14:09,500
Yes.

3883
02:14:10,160 --> 02:14:10,580
Global.

3884
02:14:11,220 --> 02:14:14,960
This isn't going on in Africa or Paraguay.

3885
02:14:15,500 --> 02:14:18,180
Yeah, where the migrants not typically going to

3886
02:14:18,180 --> 02:14:20,200
Paraguay or Africa.

3887
02:14:20,880 --> 02:14:22,300
Hey man, I'm not going to go there.

3888
02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:23,940
That's no good.

3889
02:14:24,300 --> 02:14:27,540
But this thing, because of these scams, the

3890
02:14:27,540 --> 02:14:31,000
Roosevelt Hotel right now is a big point

3891
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:33,520
of information that everyone's worried about.

3892
02:14:33,660 --> 02:14:37,140
The entire Roosevelt Hotel was turned over to

3893
02:14:37,140 --> 02:14:39,720
some, I can't remember some investment group.

3894
02:14:39,860 --> 02:14:40,600
It's out of the country.

3895
02:14:40,760 --> 02:14:41,940
I can't remember what country it's from.

3896
02:14:42,200 --> 02:14:42,520
Oh, really?

3897
02:14:42,620 --> 02:14:42,980
I didn't realize that.

3898
02:14:42,980 --> 02:14:44,480
It's not even American owned.

3899
02:14:45,060 --> 02:14:49,040
And for $220 million deal, the whole hotel

3900
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:50,400
is filled with immigrants.

3901
02:14:51,440 --> 02:14:53,600
The illegal aliens, as we used to call

3902
02:14:53,600 --> 02:14:53,860
them.

3903
02:14:54,660 --> 02:14:56,680
And this is part of a giant scam.

3904
02:14:57,520 --> 02:14:59,320
Yeah, it was sold in February.

3905
02:15:02,480 --> 02:15:04,640
And let's see who owns it now.

3906
02:15:06,060 --> 02:15:06,460
Oh.

3907
02:15:06,460 --> 02:15:10,020
I can't tell that quickly.

3908
02:15:11,620 --> 02:15:13,680
But it's been in a number of different

3909
02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:14,100
hands.

3910
02:15:14,740 --> 02:15:16,940
Yeah, the current hands are out of the

3911
02:15:16,940 --> 02:15:17,280
country.

3912
02:15:18,460 --> 02:15:21,200
But it's like, this is going on everywhere.

3913
02:15:21,460 --> 02:15:23,260
And it's, and who's paying for, this is

3914
02:15:23,260 --> 02:15:24,420
a taxpayer gouge.

3915
02:15:25,260 --> 02:15:25,480
Yeah.

3916
02:15:26,460 --> 02:15:29,060
I mean, I can see where Vivek and

3917
02:15:29,060 --> 02:15:32,420
Elon could take $2 trillion out of the

3918
02:15:32,420 --> 02:15:32,760
budget.

3919
02:15:33,200 --> 02:15:35,040
Because of this sort of thing.

3920
02:15:35,140 --> 02:15:35,460
Sure.

3921
02:15:36,020 --> 02:15:37,880
But will they do anything with the defense

3922
02:15:37,880 --> 02:15:37,980
department?

3923
02:15:37,980 --> 02:15:39,480
No, nothing's going to happen.

3924
02:15:40,260 --> 02:15:41,740
The defense department is what we're.

3925
02:15:41,920 --> 02:15:42,740
Talk is cheap.

3926
02:15:44,160 --> 02:15:45,640
Doge is going to do it, man.

3927
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:46,400
Doge.

3928
02:15:46,680 --> 02:15:47,360
Doge, baby.

3929
02:15:47,980 --> 02:15:48,380
Doge.

3930
02:15:48,560 --> 02:15:49,600
Going to take care of everything.

3931
02:15:49,720 --> 02:15:50,480
It's going to be great.

3932
02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:52,100
It's going to be good, man.

3933
02:15:52,280 --> 02:15:53,520
You're just jealous of Elon.

3934
02:15:56,100 --> 02:15:59,320
Here's a story about the, well, I do

3935
02:15:59,320 --> 02:16:01,040
have, well, I want to save the climate

3936
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:01,360
change.

3937
02:16:01,480 --> 02:16:02,860
Unless you have climate change stuff.

3938
02:16:02,960 --> 02:16:03,920
How about the anal clips?

3939
02:16:04,000 --> 02:16:05,960
Whenever you bring anal clips, I'm always excited.

3940
02:16:05,960 --> 02:16:06,520
Yeah.

3941
02:16:07,220 --> 02:16:08,880
That stands for analysis.

3942
02:16:09,280 --> 02:16:09,860
Oh, I'm sorry.

3943
02:16:10,060 --> 02:16:11,640
I misunderstood your labeling.

3944
02:16:11,940 --> 02:16:14,400
But we can play the, this is NPR.

3945
02:16:14,480 --> 02:16:15,940
They got this one guy they bring on

3946
02:16:15,940 --> 02:16:17,780
is Ron something or other.

3947
02:16:18,100 --> 02:16:19,500
And he comes on and he's got this

3948
02:16:19,500 --> 02:16:21,540
very distinctive voice.

3949
02:16:21,620 --> 02:16:24,120
And he, for some reason knows everything about

3950
02:16:24,120 --> 02:16:24,640
everything.

3951
02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:28,200
And so they ask him to analyze things.

3952
02:16:28,380 --> 02:16:30,300
And in this case, it's about the Biden

3953
02:16:30,300 --> 02:16:32,680
leaving and the cabinet and tariffs.

3954
02:16:32,760 --> 02:16:34,559
And here we start with the, I believe

3955
02:16:34,559 --> 02:16:35,660
the first clip is Biden.

3956
02:16:35,959 --> 02:16:39,000
The Biden administration has made some moves in

3957
02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:39,780
its final days.

3958
02:16:39,900 --> 02:16:42,860
It helped broker a ceasefire deal between Hezbollah

3959
02:16:42,860 --> 02:16:44,120
and Lebanon and Israel.

3960
02:16:44,740 --> 02:16:46,920
And it's trying to bolster Ukraine against Russia

3961
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:48,620
before Donald Trump takes office.

3962
02:16:49,620 --> 02:16:51,000
And PR's Ron Elving joins us, Ron.

3963
02:16:51,080 --> 02:16:51,959
Thanks for being with us.

3964
02:16:52,219 --> 02:16:53,320
Good to be with you, Scott.

3965
02:16:53,760 --> 02:16:55,959
A couple of final pushes in two major

3966
02:16:55,959 --> 02:16:57,139
international conflicts.

3967
02:16:57,420 --> 02:17:00,139
What is the Biden White House hoping to

3968
02:17:00,139 --> 02:17:02,059
leave for the incoming Trump administration?

3969
02:17:02,059 --> 02:17:04,680
They know perfectly well that the Trump administration

3970
02:17:04,680 --> 02:17:06,680
is going to set its own course on

3971
02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:08,799
these foreign crises as on so many other

3972
02:17:08,799 --> 02:17:09,160
matters.

3973
02:17:09,780 --> 02:17:12,580
But the Biden administration has a responsibility to

3974
02:17:12,580 --> 02:17:15,740
leave its allies in these crises in as

3975
02:17:15,740 --> 02:17:17,400
strong a posture as possible.

3976
02:17:17,959 --> 02:17:19,900
So in Ukraine, we've seen the Biden White

3977
02:17:19,900 --> 02:17:22,219
House, green lighting, greater use of long range

3978
02:17:22,219 --> 02:17:25,100
US weapons against Russia, trying to shore up

3979
02:17:25,100 --> 02:17:28,879
Ukraine's defenses and possibly bolster their negotiating position.

3980
02:17:28,879 --> 02:17:30,780
If things are going to turn in a

3981
02:17:30,780 --> 02:17:33,920
talking direction, Trump is assumed to have less

3982
02:17:33,920 --> 02:17:35,620
commitment to Ukraine than Biden.

3983
02:17:36,200 --> 02:17:37,940
But this is also an area where Trump

3984
02:17:37,940 --> 02:17:40,160
has somewhat less support among Republican senators.

3985
02:17:40,320 --> 02:17:41,240
We'll see how that goes.

3986
02:17:41,719 --> 02:17:43,559
The Biden interest is also in having something

3987
02:17:43,559 --> 02:17:45,459
to say in the face of critics who

3988
02:17:45,459 --> 02:17:47,000
will say they did not do enough for

3989
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:49,540
Ukraine or in some cases that they had

3990
02:17:49,540 --> 02:17:50,240
done too much.

3991
02:17:50,540 --> 02:17:52,379
In the Middle East, how can you supply

3992
02:17:52,379 --> 02:17:55,139
Israel with weapons without taking at least some

3993
02:17:55,139 --> 02:17:57,000
responsibility for how they're used?

3994
02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:00,200
The ceasefire between Israel and the Iranian-backed

3995
02:18:00,200 --> 02:18:02,879
Hezbollah may buy a little time and further

3996
02:18:02,879 --> 02:18:04,500
isolate Hamas in Gaza.

3997
02:18:04,680 --> 02:18:06,940
But it leaves open the question of Iran

3998
02:18:06,940 --> 02:18:08,180
and its role in all this.

3999
02:18:11,139 --> 02:18:15,620
I consider that to be a mediocre analysis.

4000
02:18:15,760 --> 02:18:17,260
But OK, let's go to part two on

4001
02:18:17,260 --> 02:18:17,620
tariffs.

4002
02:18:17,940 --> 02:18:20,160
OK, part two.

4003
02:18:20,540 --> 02:18:22,840
Let me ask you about the steep tariffs

4004
02:18:22,840 --> 02:18:25,760
that President-elect Trump has been promising.

4005
02:18:26,100 --> 02:18:27,180
Not just on China, but Canada.

4006
02:18:27,620 --> 02:18:28,340
President-elect?

4007
02:18:28,420 --> 02:18:28,959
What do you call it?

4008
02:18:29,540 --> 02:18:31,799
Get the marbles out of your mouth, NPR.

4009
02:18:31,799 --> 02:18:33,860
Let me ask you about the steep tariffs

4010
02:18:33,860 --> 02:18:35,860
that President-elect Trump has been.

4011
02:18:35,879 --> 02:18:36,100
President.

4012
02:18:37,340 --> 02:18:38,780
This guy is falling over.

4013
02:18:38,860 --> 02:18:39,180
President.

4014
02:18:39,980 --> 02:18:40,420
Promising.

4015
02:18:40,580 --> 02:18:42,500
Not just on China, but Canada and Mexico,

4016
02:18:43,240 --> 02:18:44,780
who I think a lot of Americans wouldn't

4017
02:18:44,780 --> 02:18:47,840
consider threats to national security to the United

4018
02:18:47,840 --> 02:18:48,340
States.

4019
02:18:48,719 --> 02:18:50,440
It's been a long time since we sent

4020
02:18:50,440 --> 02:18:52,040
troops against Mexico or Canada.

4021
02:18:52,040 --> 02:18:54,780
By and large, they've been friendly neighbors, major

4022
02:18:54,780 --> 02:18:55,620
trading partners.

4023
02:18:55,940 --> 02:18:59,120
But in Trump's formulation, they've been bad neighbors,

4024
02:18:59,420 --> 02:19:02,260
because deadly drugs and too many immigrants have

4025
02:19:02,260 --> 02:19:03,780
crossed the border in recent years.

4026
02:19:04,020 --> 02:19:06,160
Now, Trump has been beating this drum at

4027
02:19:06,160 --> 02:19:07,299
least since 2015.

4028
02:19:08,160 --> 02:19:12,080
Mexico's President, Claudio Schoenbaum, got on the phone

4029
02:19:12,080 --> 02:19:14,559
to Trump and Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau got

4030
02:19:14,559 --> 02:19:16,559
on a plane to Mar-a-Lago for

4031
02:19:16,559 --> 02:19:18,900
dinner and possibly some deal making this week.

4032
02:19:19,219 --> 02:19:19,420
Possibly.

4033
02:19:19,420 --> 02:19:22,900
Both he and Schoenbaum are intent on defusing

4034
02:19:22,900 --> 02:19:25,700
this crisis early and avoiding a trade war.

4035
02:19:26,260 --> 02:19:28,420
Trump certainly seems serious about these threats, but

4036
02:19:28,420 --> 02:19:31,040
he surely knows too that there are inflation

4037
02:19:31,040 --> 02:19:34,139
risks in these tariffs, especially on food and

4038
02:19:34,139 --> 02:19:34,500
energy.

4039
02:19:36,980 --> 02:19:41,280
So that's standard talk, nothing new.

4040
02:19:41,760 --> 02:19:43,459
It's NPR trying to keep us up.

4041
02:19:43,959 --> 02:19:46,120
And so I don't think they do a

4042
02:19:46,120 --> 02:19:46,840
very good job.

4043
02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:47,720
No.

4044
02:19:47,720 --> 02:19:50,880
So last, we have the cabinet analysis.

4045
02:19:51,640 --> 02:19:53,260
Votes for House seats are coming in.

4046
02:19:53,300 --> 02:19:55,160
The final count looks to be narrow.

4047
02:19:55,420 --> 02:19:57,440
What does that mean for House Republicans who

4048
02:19:57,440 --> 02:19:59,560
want to begin with a lot of business

4049
02:19:59,560 --> 02:20:00,240
in January?

4050
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:03,400
They better all show up because, well, look,

4051
02:20:03,440 --> 02:20:05,560
you recall that two years ago, it took

4052
02:20:05,560 --> 02:20:08,000
House Republicans 15 rounds of voting to elect

4053
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:09,760
their leader, Kevin McCarthy, as speaker.

4054
02:20:10,360 --> 02:20:12,140
It was tough for McCarthy because his majority

4055
02:20:12,140 --> 02:20:14,760
was so slim, fewer than 10 seats out

4056
02:20:14,760 --> 02:20:15,700
of 435.

4057
02:20:16,380 --> 02:20:19,480
Well, current Speaker Mike Johnson's margin, the first

4058
02:20:19,480 --> 02:20:23,480
week of January 2025, now looks even slimmer,

4059
02:20:23,960 --> 02:20:28,180
maybe 219 Republicans to 215 Democrats.

4060
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:31,280
That means two defectors could produce a tie

4061
02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:31,800
and a loss.

4062
02:20:32,900 --> 02:20:34,680
It's been noted by a few people that

4063
02:20:34,680 --> 02:20:37,540
Trump's cabinet this time around is politically diverse.

4064
02:20:37,740 --> 02:20:38,860
You have Robert F.

4065
02:20:38,940 --> 02:20:42,840
Kennedy, Jr., supports abortion rights, Remers, pro-union.

4066
02:20:43,700 --> 02:20:46,620
Scott Besant once held fundraisers for Al Gore

4067
02:20:46,620 --> 02:20:47,440
and Hillary Clinton.

4068
02:20:47,800 --> 02:20:47,960
Oh, no.

4069
02:20:48,080 --> 02:20:50,020
Does this pretend a different second term?

4070
02:20:50,920 --> 02:20:52,940
You know, you mentioned Scott Besant's past history

4071
02:20:52,940 --> 02:20:53,700
helping Democrats.

4072
02:20:53,840 --> 02:20:55,920
Trump himself had such a history at one

4073
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:56,300
time.

4074
02:20:56,740 --> 02:20:58,700
But Besant also raised some eyebrows in the

4075
02:20:58,700 --> 02:21:00,520
Republican Party because he's a gay man with

4076
02:21:00,520 --> 02:21:01,380
a husband and children.

4077
02:21:02,060 --> 02:21:04,640
RFK, Jr. may shock some Trump supporters as

4078
02:21:04,640 --> 02:21:07,380
a pro-abortion rights Secretary of Health and

4079
02:21:07,380 --> 02:21:08,060
Human Services.

4080
02:21:08,980 --> 02:21:11,500
And we are hearing some protest in Trump

4081
02:21:11,500 --> 02:21:11,800
world.

4082
02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:14,220
Also, you mentioned Chavez de Remer.

4083
02:21:14,580 --> 02:21:15,880
She voted for a bill to make it

4084
02:21:15,880 --> 02:21:18,240
easier for workers to form or join unions.

4085
02:21:18,360 --> 02:21:19,860
That's anathema to many Republicans.

4086
02:21:20,360 --> 02:21:22,020
But then she was backed by the Teamsters.

4087
02:21:22,220 --> 02:21:25,100
And you remember the national Teamsters leader, Sean

4088
02:21:25,100 --> 02:21:27,240
O'Brien, at the Republican National Convention.

4089
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:29,980
This is a cabinet to please Trump's own

4090
02:21:29,980 --> 02:21:30,360
heart.

4091
02:21:31,540 --> 02:21:34,320
Unpredictable, mediagenic, camera friendly, and TV savvy.

4092
02:21:34,560 --> 02:21:37,000
And above all, loyal to Trump.

4093
02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:38,620
Brian Elvey, thanks so much.

4094
02:21:38,860 --> 02:21:41,420
So this thing, somebody brought this up on

4095
02:21:41,420 --> 02:21:41,980
one of the shows.

4096
02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:44,340
And it's like, I think it was, I

4097
02:21:44,340 --> 02:21:45,600
can't remember which one, but it would.

4098
02:21:45,720 --> 02:21:47,580
But the person said, why do they keep

4099
02:21:47,580 --> 02:21:48,880
harping on this loyal thing?

4100
02:21:49,140 --> 02:21:50,320
What are you going to, who are you

4101
02:21:50,320 --> 02:21:52,160
supposed to pick for these jobs?

4102
02:21:52,180 --> 02:21:53,640
People that are disloyal?

4103
02:21:53,860 --> 02:21:54,060
I guess.

4104
02:21:54,320 --> 02:21:54,820
Hey, well, that's good.

4105
02:21:54,860 --> 02:21:56,960
That's a great pick because he's disloyal and

4106
02:21:56,960 --> 02:21:58,420
he's going to stab you in the back.

4107
02:21:58,620 --> 02:21:59,700
That's what we want.

4108
02:22:00,260 --> 02:22:01,900
You always pick loyalists.

4109
02:22:01,940 --> 02:22:02,780
That's what you do.

4110
02:22:03,400 --> 02:22:04,720
Why is it they make a point?

4111
02:22:04,780 --> 02:22:06,020
Oh, loyal, loyal, loyal.

4112
02:22:06,020 --> 02:22:09,340
Yeah, because that sounds more like a fascist

4113
02:22:09,340 --> 02:22:09,960
dictator.

4114
02:22:10,280 --> 02:22:14,260
And it's all, it's all positioning and propaganda.

4115
02:22:14,420 --> 02:22:17,560
And unfortunately, I've received so many of these

4116
02:22:17,560 --> 02:22:20,640
sad notes after the original producer, Dan, about

4117
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:23,260
his wife or partner who tacked that note

4118
02:22:23,260 --> 02:22:24,000
to the back door.

4119
02:22:24,120 --> 02:22:26,060
Like, get out, get out before Thanksgiving.

4120
02:22:27,680 --> 02:22:31,140
Are these people not hearing this diverse cabinet

4121
02:22:31,140 --> 02:22:33,380
that is being chosen?

4122
02:22:33,380 --> 02:22:36,140
Because here is a note from Danny.

4123
02:22:37,280 --> 02:22:38,800
Just listen to yesterday's show.

4124
02:22:38,960 --> 02:22:40,780
The note written by Dan's wife could have

4125
02:22:40,780 --> 02:22:42,220
been written by my wife.

4126
02:22:43,260 --> 02:22:45,000
Liz and I have been married for 29

4127
02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:45,920
years this month.

4128
02:22:46,020 --> 02:22:47,600
I'm not sure we'll make it to 30.

4129
02:22:49,540 --> 02:22:51,820
Yesterday, I made a big mistake by posting

4130
02:22:51,820 --> 02:22:53,860
a link to this in the family text

4131
02:22:53,860 --> 02:22:54,100
group.

4132
02:22:54,200 --> 02:22:55,420
That's one of those text groups we were

4133
02:22:55,420 --> 02:22:55,980
talking about.

4134
02:22:56,620 --> 02:23:02,800
And so here's the text of the post

4135
02:23:02,800 --> 02:23:03,300
on X.

4136
02:23:03,460 --> 02:23:06,640
When Congress asked President Washington to declare America's

4137
02:23:06,640 --> 02:23:09,200
first National Day of Prayer and Thanksgiving, his

4138
02:23:09,200 --> 02:23:13,340
proclamation of November 26, 1789 noted, quote, it

4139
02:23:13,340 --> 02:23:15,120
is the duty of all nations to acknowledge

4140
02:23:15,120 --> 02:23:17,460
the providence of Almighty God to obey his

4141
02:23:17,460 --> 02:23:20,000
will, to be grateful for his benefits, and

4142
02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:22,100
humbly to implore his protection and favor.

4143
02:23:22,460 --> 02:23:24,240
We do well to remember that today.

4144
02:23:24,240 --> 02:23:26,220
Have a happy and blessed Thanksgiving.

4145
02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:30,440
Well, that was his note?

4146
02:23:30,780 --> 02:23:32,380
Yeah, well, that was the post that he

4147
02:23:32,380 --> 02:23:33,160
posted.

4148
02:23:33,440 --> 02:23:35,520
Yeah, and that's offensive to his wife?

4149
02:23:35,940 --> 02:23:37,340
Let me continue the note.

4150
02:23:37,840 --> 02:23:39,940
My only intention was to share the message.

4151
02:23:40,060 --> 02:23:42,160
I wasn't even thinking about who it came

4152
02:23:42,160 --> 02:23:44,440
from and that it would be received as

4153
02:23:44,440 --> 02:23:45,000
an insult.

4154
02:23:45,620 --> 02:23:48,300
You see, it was posted by Speaker of

4155
02:23:48,300 --> 02:23:49,420
the House Mike Johnson.

4156
02:23:50,540 --> 02:23:52,820
My wife made it clear that I had

4157
02:23:52,820 --> 02:23:54,960
just crapped on her family when I did

4158
02:23:54,960 --> 02:23:57,840
that because it came from Mike Johnson, who

4159
02:23:57,840 --> 02:24:01,780
she says wants to take women's rights away,

4160
02:24:01,960 --> 02:24:05,000
plus everything Dan's wife wrote, almost verbatim.

4161
02:24:06,440 --> 02:24:08,440
We still had Thanksgiving, but I, for the

4162
02:24:08,440 --> 02:24:10,180
most part, said nothing at the gathering.

4163
02:24:11,080 --> 02:24:12,980
This is rampant.

4164
02:24:14,020 --> 02:24:16,520
And then a note from RJ.

4165
02:24:17,160 --> 02:24:19,780
I'm just reading these because they're beyond belief.

4166
02:24:20,200 --> 02:24:22,240
I want you to read these notes.

4167
02:24:22,240 --> 02:24:25,060
Nobody sends them to me, which is fine.

4168
02:24:25,360 --> 02:24:26,620
They can't spell your last name.

4169
02:24:26,800 --> 02:24:27,560
They don't know how to spell it.

4170
02:24:27,620 --> 02:24:27,860
It's good.

4171
02:24:28,780 --> 02:24:31,060
He sent it to Adam, and he loves

4172
02:24:31,060 --> 02:24:31,820
reading notes.

4173
02:24:31,940 --> 02:24:32,700
I do, actually.

4174
02:24:33,360 --> 02:24:38,260
But I'm searching, like, how can we help

4175
02:24:38,260 --> 02:24:41,660
our producers to shake their family members, their

4176
02:24:41,660 --> 02:24:45,220
wives, in this case, sister, out of this

4177
02:24:45,220 --> 02:24:48,320
delusion, this derangement, that they think that these

4178
02:24:48,320 --> 02:24:51,140
people are going to take away women's rights.

4179
02:24:52,460 --> 02:24:54,760
Can I interrupt this next read with a

4180
02:24:54,760 --> 02:24:56,600
couple of TikTok videos that might help?

4181
02:24:57,160 --> 02:24:58,580
No, let me do the read first.

4182
02:24:59,740 --> 02:25:01,640
Do you think it's important to do the

4183
02:25:01,640 --> 02:25:02,740
TikTok videos first?

4184
02:25:02,920 --> 02:25:04,120
It was just a timing thing.

4185
02:25:04,280 --> 02:25:05,480
It goes either way.

4186
02:25:06,060 --> 02:25:06,580
Well, go ahead.

4187
02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:07,160
Let's do it.

4188
02:25:07,360 --> 02:25:07,640
What you got?

4189
02:25:07,700 --> 02:25:09,600
Well, since you're talking about these sorts of

4190
02:25:09,600 --> 02:25:10,980
women, I want to play this one.

4191
02:25:11,800 --> 02:25:12,020
Wait a minute.

4192
02:25:12,100 --> 02:25:13,920
Do you think that these women who are,

4193
02:25:14,000 --> 02:25:19,920
in essence, divorcing, maybe not illegally, but divorcing

4194
02:25:19,920 --> 02:25:22,220
themselves from their husbands and from their families,

4195
02:25:22,440 --> 02:25:24,600
that they're influenced by these TikTok people?

4196
02:25:24,860 --> 02:25:27,020
I think they're influenced by the TikTok, yes.

4197
02:25:27,260 --> 02:25:27,600
Okay.

4198
02:25:28,120 --> 02:25:28,940
And the media.

4199
02:25:29,240 --> 02:25:29,600
Okay.

4200
02:25:29,780 --> 02:25:33,040
And I don't want to say, other women

4201
02:25:33,040 --> 02:25:34,380
can listen to this, what I'm going to

4202
02:25:34,380 --> 02:25:35,780
say here, and say, well, you're a horrible

4203
02:25:35,780 --> 02:25:36,240
person.

4204
02:25:36,960 --> 02:25:39,540
I think these women are weak-minded.

4205
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:44,320
The women we're discussing are weak-minded and

4206
02:25:44,320 --> 02:25:47,580
weak-willed individuals who really can't think for

4207
02:25:47,580 --> 02:25:48,060
themselves.

4208
02:25:48,060 --> 02:25:50,140
And it's kind of a shame that they're

4209
02:25:50,140 --> 02:25:52,580
that way, but they were raised that way.

4210
02:25:54,040 --> 02:25:56,220
And they take on all sorts of forms.

4211
02:25:56,920 --> 02:25:58,420
And this one here, I got two of

4212
02:25:58,420 --> 02:25:58,900
them, actually.

4213
02:25:59,300 --> 02:26:01,320
I've got the white women rant, which would

4214
02:26:01,320 --> 02:26:01,980
be appropriate.

4215
02:26:02,360 --> 02:26:04,840
I think we severely underestimated the amount of

4216
02:26:04,840 --> 02:26:06,800
women around us who will never be able

4217
02:26:06,800 --> 02:26:09,460
to stop seeking the approval and validation of

4218
02:26:09,460 --> 02:26:10,540
the white men around them.

4219
02:26:10,760 --> 02:26:12,380
And y'all really expose yourself with the

4220
02:26:12,380 --> 02:26:13,340
results of this election.

4221
02:26:13,780 --> 02:26:16,020
These white women who voted against our interests,

4222
02:26:16,020 --> 02:26:17,480
these are the women that we went to

4223
02:26:17,480 --> 02:26:19,260
high school with, that we were best friends

4224
02:26:19,260 --> 02:26:21,000
with in college, that we played sports with

4225
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:21,760
our whole lives.

4226
02:26:22,200 --> 02:26:24,180
But they chose to listen to their dads.

4227
02:26:24,340 --> 02:26:26,020
They chose to listen to their boyfriends or

4228
02:26:26,020 --> 02:26:26,560
their husbands.

4229
02:26:26,840 --> 02:26:28,660
They chose to put the interests of the

4230
02:26:28,660 --> 02:26:31,240
white men around them in their lives above

4231
02:26:31,240 --> 02:26:34,480
the interests of women, above the interests of

4232
02:26:34,480 --> 02:26:37,160
minorities, above the interests of oppressed people.

4233
02:26:37,320 --> 02:26:39,640
I will never be able to wrap my

4234
02:26:39,640 --> 02:26:40,360
mind around that.

4235
02:26:40,600 --> 02:26:42,460
Oh, you can be a highly educated woman,

4236
02:26:42,780 --> 02:26:44,600
see how women around you are being treated,

4237
02:26:44,600 --> 02:26:46,660
see how minorities around you are being treated,

4238
02:26:47,440 --> 02:26:50,100
and still choose to value the opinion of

4239
02:26:50,100 --> 02:26:52,580
the white men around you the most and

4240
02:26:52,580 --> 02:26:53,740
vote for their interests.

4241
02:26:54,080 --> 02:26:55,640
One of the most important women in my

4242
02:26:55,640 --> 02:26:57,800
life married a rich white man, and she

4243
02:26:57,800 --> 02:26:59,920
chose to vote for his interests instead of

4244
02:26:59,920 --> 02:27:01,240
the interests of her three daughters.

4245
02:27:01,700 --> 02:27:03,560
The silence from all of these women right

4246
02:27:03,560 --> 02:27:05,160
now who could not bring themselves to vote

4247
02:27:05,160 --> 02:27:06,840
for Harris, to vote for another woman in

4248
02:27:06,840 --> 02:27:09,880
this election, is shameful and we will not

4249
02:27:09,880 --> 02:27:10,220
forget.

4250
02:27:12,320 --> 02:27:15,800
So does she ever explain what exactly the

4251
02:27:15,800 --> 02:27:16,380
issue is?

4252
02:27:16,500 --> 02:27:18,520
Is it all the...

4253
02:27:18,520 --> 02:27:18,840
She's a woman.

4254
02:27:19,560 --> 02:27:21,380
By the way, this is an attractive girl.

4255
02:27:21,520 --> 02:27:24,000
She's not like a, you know, a fat

4256
02:27:24,000 --> 02:27:25,060
girl with red hair.

4257
02:27:25,960 --> 02:27:28,340
Wow, you just insulted a whole bunch of

4258
02:27:28,340 --> 02:27:29,300
people in one go.

4259
02:27:29,620 --> 02:27:30,440
You didn't have to add the red hair.

4260
02:27:30,440 --> 02:27:31,440
A fat girl with red hair?

4261
02:27:31,540 --> 02:27:33,320
There's not one that listens to this show.

4262
02:27:33,420 --> 02:27:35,020
When I say red hair, they know what

4263
02:27:35,020 --> 02:27:35,460
I'm talking about.

4264
02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:37,420
Now I'm not talking about a redhead.

4265
02:27:37,580 --> 02:27:38,240
Oh, okay.

4266
02:27:38,920 --> 02:27:40,520
I'm talking about a fat girl with red

4267
02:27:40,520 --> 02:27:42,580
hair, and that red hair is like purple,

4268
02:27:42,780 --> 02:27:43,120
actually.

4269
02:27:44,340 --> 02:27:47,080
So it's not one of those TikTokers.

4270
02:27:47,280 --> 02:27:48,980
This girl's just reasonable looking.

4271
02:27:49,080 --> 02:27:50,560
You wouldn't think that she's this radical.

4272
02:27:50,620 --> 02:27:53,260
She's white, which makes it even weirder.

4273
02:27:54,060 --> 02:27:55,720
And then we have the...

4274
02:27:55,720 --> 02:27:57,380
Okay, I'm sorry I did that.

4275
02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:02,320
And now we have the free advice girl,

4276
02:28:02,600 --> 02:28:07,020
who is very similar in her approach, except

4277
02:28:07,020 --> 02:28:09,780
that she's not a sexist as much as

4278
02:28:09,780 --> 02:28:11,200
the other one, but it's the same kind

4279
02:28:11,200 --> 02:28:11,960
of craziness.

4280
02:28:12,320 --> 02:28:13,700
So here's what you're going to do in

4281
02:28:13,700 --> 02:28:15,780
this last holiday season we have before a

4282
02:28:15,780 --> 02:28:16,540
Trump presidency.

4283
02:28:17,160 --> 02:28:19,880
Whenever you travel, whether that's for Thanksgiving or

4284
02:28:19,880 --> 02:28:22,320
anything else during this time, you are going

4285
02:28:22,320 --> 02:28:24,300
to stop at a store that is not

4286
02:28:24,300 --> 02:28:26,600
in the town where you're from, and you

4287
02:28:26,600 --> 02:28:28,440
are going to go and you will purchase

4288
02:28:28,440 --> 02:28:33,420
a phone and a minutes card with cash.

4289
02:28:34,020 --> 02:28:36,300
You will then take that phone and wrap

4290
02:28:36,300 --> 02:28:38,660
it in the most obnoxious Christmas wrapping paper

4291
02:28:38,660 --> 02:28:40,560
you can find with a really pretty bow,

4292
02:28:40,660 --> 02:28:42,300
and you're going to give it to somebody

4293
02:28:42,300 --> 02:28:45,680
within your circle who is at risk of

4294
02:28:45,680 --> 02:28:46,340
having to flee.

4295
02:28:46,920 --> 02:28:48,600
Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who

4296
02:28:48,600 --> 02:28:50,660
find themselves within that demographic now.

4297
02:28:51,240 --> 02:28:52,920
This is the perfect gift to them because

4298
02:28:52,920 --> 02:28:55,960
you are giving them a burner phone that

4299
02:28:55,960 --> 02:28:58,820
people would have a very difficult time tracing

4300
02:28:58,820 --> 02:29:00,820
back to them should they have to flee.

4301
02:29:01,380 --> 02:29:03,980
Take full advantage of the holiday season where

4302
02:29:03,980 --> 02:29:06,400
we can gift our friends things that might

4303
02:29:06,400 --> 02:29:08,220
incriminate them should they have to buy it

4304
02:29:08,220 --> 02:29:08,640
themselves.

4305
02:29:10,720 --> 02:29:14,360
Here is RJ's note.

4306
02:29:14,600 --> 02:29:16,100
I have a sister that lives in North

4307
02:29:16,100 --> 02:29:18,280
Carolina, and when she found out that me,

4308
02:29:18,560 --> 02:29:20,960
my mother, and my stepdad voted for Trump,

4309
02:29:21,540 --> 02:29:23,760
she texted the entire family and said she

4310
02:29:23,760 --> 02:29:26,320
would not be visiting us for Thanksgiving or

4311
02:29:26,320 --> 02:29:26,800
Christmas.

4312
02:29:27,320 --> 02:29:30,060
She spouted the same BS about how none

4313
02:29:30,060 --> 02:29:31,240
of us care about women.

4314
02:29:31,240 --> 02:29:32,700
She is a lino.

4315
02:29:33,040 --> 02:29:34,700
New term, John, a lino.

4316
02:29:35,360 --> 02:29:36,320
Have you heard of a lino?

4317
02:29:37,020 --> 02:29:37,800
No, no.

4318
02:29:38,260 --> 02:29:39,620
Lesbian in name only.

4319
02:29:41,780 --> 02:29:42,720
A lino.

4320
02:29:42,740 --> 02:29:43,080
Wow.

4321
02:29:43,720 --> 02:29:45,640
I say this because she made the choice

4322
02:29:45,640 --> 02:29:47,780
to get an abortion several months ago after

4323
02:29:47,780 --> 02:29:51,460
a reckless relationship and blamed Trump for having

4324
02:29:51,460 --> 02:29:53,540
to drive six hours to kill her baby.

4325
02:29:53,700 --> 02:29:55,180
She lived in Arkansas at the time.

4326
02:29:55,780 --> 02:29:58,420
I've tried sharing my source information with her

4327
02:29:58,420 --> 02:30:00,100
to clarify some of the points that she

4328
02:30:00,100 --> 02:30:01,040
was attempting to make.

4329
02:30:01,160 --> 02:30:02,720
A lot of material from your show, which

4330
02:30:02,720 --> 02:30:05,400
is, as she calls it, two old right

4331
02:30:05,400 --> 02:30:06,420
-wing boomers.

4332
02:30:08,320 --> 02:30:11,100
Hey, I'm the face of Generation X.

4333
02:30:11,160 --> 02:30:12,380
Don't call me a boomer.

4334
02:30:12,880 --> 02:30:15,100
She has been so brainwashed into believing this

4335
02:30:15,100 --> 02:30:17,520
crap by the M5M that she now has

4336
02:30:17,520 --> 02:30:19,500
blocked everyone in the family except for my

4337
02:30:19,500 --> 02:30:20,600
20-year-old son.

4338
02:30:20,900 --> 02:30:22,760
This is only because he's too afraid to

4339
02:30:22,760 --> 02:30:24,360
mention that he voted for Trump because he

4340
02:30:24,360 --> 02:30:26,080
doesn't want his aunt to disown him.

4341
02:30:26,580 --> 02:30:27,460
Uh-oh, busted.

4342
02:30:27,460 --> 02:30:29,800
I hear about this stuff on your podcast,

4343
02:30:29,960 --> 02:30:31,300
but I never think it's going to affect

4344
02:30:31,300 --> 02:30:31,880
me personally.

4345
02:30:32,040 --> 02:30:34,600
But the talk videos that John played last

4346
02:30:34,600 --> 02:30:37,140
week could have literally been my sister's TikTok

4347
02:30:37,140 --> 02:30:39,520
account, and I would not be surprised.

4348
02:30:39,640 --> 02:30:41,040
She said all the same stuff.

4349
02:30:41,240 --> 02:30:43,160
At the end of the day, all I

4350
02:30:43,160 --> 02:30:44,700
was able to tell her is get back

4351
02:30:44,700 --> 02:30:46,140
in touch with me in six months and

4352
02:30:46,140 --> 02:30:47,460
see if she still feels the same.

4353
02:30:47,740 --> 02:30:50,560
However, she has already said that anything good

4354
02:30:50,560 --> 02:30:52,720
that happens with Trump in office is going

4355
02:30:52,720 --> 02:30:55,180
to be due to policies that Joe Biden

4356
02:30:55,180 --> 02:30:56,080
put into place.

4357
02:30:56,080 --> 02:30:57,560
They just take a while.

4358
02:30:58,380 --> 02:31:00,540
Please, Adam, pray for these disillusioned people.

4359
02:31:00,700 --> 02:31:01,560
I will, I do.

4360
02:31:01,980 --> 02:31:03,660
There needs to be an avenue for a

4361
02:31:03,660 --> 02:31:06,200
healthy dialogue and education for all Americans.

4362
02:31:06,380 --> 02:31:08,760
I am praying that more sane people move

4363
02:31:08,760 --> 02:31:10,940
to podcasting, and I thank you for doing

4364
02:31:10,940 --> 02:31:12,720
all the legwork to continue to grow and

4365
02:31:12,720 --> 02:31:13,640
expand the platform.

4366
02:31:14,240 --> 02:31:15,800
The good news for me is that I

4367
02:31:15,800 --> 02:31:17,900
had bought her a ham radio, the one

4368
02:31:17,900 --> 02:31:19,860
you recommended for Christmas, and now I have

4369
02:31:19,860 --> 02:31:20,740
a new ham radio.

4370
02:31:21,020 --> 02:31:21,780
Thanks, Trump.

4371
02:31:22,140 --> 02:31:23,720
God bless from RJ.

4372
02:31:25,960 --> 02:31:29,320
Ah, so it may just be TikTok.

4373
02:31:29,900 --> 02:31:31,960
Maybe TikTok is the problem here.

4374
02:31:32,720 --> 02:31:35,880
Yes, but the TikTokers are getting their perspective

4375
02:31:35,880 --> 02:31:38,460
from someplace other than TikTok necessarily.

4376
02:31:38,860 --> 02:31:40,580
Well, you know, the way the TikTok algorithms

4377
02:31:40,580 --> 02:31:43,100
work is the minute you are in a

4378
02:31:43,100 --> 02:31:44,020
particular...

4379
02:31:44,020 --> 02:31:45,760
Oh, yeah, no, what you're going to say,

4380
02:31:45,940 --> 02:31:46,220
yes.

4381
02:31:47,480 --> 02:31:49,440
If you're going to just blame TikTok and

4382
02:31:49,440 --> 02:31:50,980
you don't want to blame the mainstream media,

4383
02:31:51,320 --> 02:31:54,140
what you're saying, or you're going to say,

4384
02:31:54,560 --> 02:31:57,020
yes, I have to agree 100%, and I

4385
02:31:57,020 --> 02:31:57,820
said 100%.

4386
02:31:57,820 --> 02:31:59,900
You did, loud and proud.

4387
02:32:00,720 --> 02:32:05,540
Is because they are taking these stupid opinions

4388
02:32:06,020 --> 02:32:08,860
that are bigoted and sexist and everything in

4389
02:32:08,860 --> 02:32:12,520
between and packaging them to people who are

4390
02:32:12,520 --> 02:32:14,320
lapping it up like idiots.

4391
02:32:15,320 --> 02:32:16,520
Yeah, it's sad.

4392
02:32:16,620 --> 02:32:19,240
I wish I had some advice, but I

4393
02:32:19,240 --> 02:32:22,620
don't really know other than, you know...

4394
02:32:22,620 --> 02:32:24,300
That they won't listen to our show because

4395
02:32:24,300 --> 02:32:25,800
you're two dumb boomers.

4396
02:32:26,440 --> 02:32:26,740
Yeah.

4397
02:32:26,940 --> 02:32:29,300
Two old right-wing boomers, they say, where

4398
02:32:29,300 --> 02:32:29,740
we're not.

4399
02:32:29,980 --> 02:32:32,900
Probably anti-women because, you know, we don't

4400
02:32:32,900 --> 02:32:34,620
have wives or daughters or anything.

4401
02:32:34,960 --> 02:32:37,420
So we're probably just hell-bent on hurting

4402
02:32:37,420 --> 02:32:39,920
them and making their future rightless.

4403
02:32:43,650 --> 02:32:45,190
Yeah, I wonder where that one comes from.

4404
02:32:46,090 --> 02:32:47,590
People think they're going to lose right.

4405
02:32:47,650 --> 02:32:48,790
What rights are you losing?

4406
02:32:49,190 --> 02:32:51,170
And there's more abortions now than there were

4407
02:32:51,170 --> 02:32:53,210
before the dissolution of Roe v.

4408
02:32:53,610 --> 02:32:55,690
Wade at the Supreme Court.

4409
02:32:55,750 --> 02:32:56,190
There's more.

4410
02:32:56,510 --> 02:32:57,130
There's not less.

4411
02:32:57,230 --> 02:32:57,730
There's more.

4412
02:32:58,230 --> 02:32:59,990
And so that didn't have anything to do

4413
02:32:59,990 --> 02:33:00,190
with it.

4414
02:33:00,210 --> 02:33:01,250
So what are you bitching about?

4415
02:33:01,430 --> 02:33:04,290
Well, also, these probably were the same TikTok

4416
02:33:04,290 --> 02:33:07,230
women who were complaining about LGBTQ rights.

4417
02:33:07,330 --> 02:33:08,430
That seems to have gone.

4418
02:33:09,730 --> 02:33:10,650
Now it's just, nah.

4419
02:33:11,470 --> 02:33:12,710
You know what it is?

4420
02:33:13,070 --> 02:33:14,270
I'm going to have to say it.

4421
02:33:14,510 --> 02:33:16,710
Because women are susceptible to hysteria.

4422
02:33:18,290 --> 02:33:19,090
They are.

4423
02:33:19,530 --> 02:33:21,190
Oh, no, no, no.

4424
02:33:21,230 --> 02:33:22,090
Think about it.

4425
02:33:22,390 --> 02:33:23,050
It's a good one.

4426
02:33:23,110 --> 02:33:28,010
When women, this is like a psychological, physiological

4427
02:33:28,010 --> 02:33:29,170
proven theory.

4428
02:33:29,610 --> 02:33:32,470
Particularly when women aren't together in close quarters,

4429
02:33:32,470 --> 02:33:35,570
they can all go into hysterics over something

4430
02:33:35,570 --> 02:33:36,830
and they infect, what is it called?

4431
02:33:36,930 --> 02:33:38,130
They infect each other.

4432
02:33:38,310 --> 02:33:40,290
Just like when one person pukes on the

4433
02:33:40,290 --> 02:33:42,450
plane, everybody's puking on the plane all of

4434
02:33:42,450 --> 02:33:42,690
a sudden.

4435
02:33:42,750 --> 02:33:43,310
What's that called?

4436
02:33:43,410 --> 02:33:43,950
It has a name.

4437
02:33:44,010 --> 02:33:44,970
We've talked about it before.

4438
02:33:45,350 --> 02:33:45,770
Mass hysteria.

4439
02:33:45,770 --> 02:33:47,730
It is, in essence, mass hysteria.

4440
02:33:47,810 --> 02:33:49,790
And mass formation is the new term for

4441
02:33:49,790 --> 02:33:49,970
it.

4442
02:33:50,090 --> 02:33:50,310
Yeah.

4443
02:33:52,330 --> 02:33:53,410
But it's mass hysteria.

4444
02:33:54,730 --> 02:33:55,690
Yeah, June bugs.

4445
02:33:55,770 --> 02:33:56,510
Look it up, people.

4446
02:33:56,610 --> 02:33:57,210
Yeah, June, yeah.

4447
02:33:57,290 --> 02:33:57,470
Thanks.

4448
02:33:57,850 --> 02:33:59,150
That's what I was thinking of, the June

4449
02:33:59,150 --> 02:33:59,410
bugs.

4450
02:33:59,510 --> 02:33:59,830
Yes.

4451
02:34:03,430 --> 02:34:04,690
And, oh, man.

4452
02:34:05,010 --> 02:34:06,950
Because all these women do have a similar

4453
02:34:06,950 --> 02:34:09,850
rant and it's always based on the same

4454
02:34:09,850 --> 02:34:10,930
talking points.

4455
02:34:13,030 --> 02:34:15,310
Except for the one about the buying of

4456
02:34:15,310 --> 02:34:17,090
a cell phone in case, for your friend,

4457
02:34:18,010 --> 02:34:20,150
because when she flees, they won't be able

4458
02:34:20,150 --> 02:34:22,570
to track her like a dog.

4459
02:34:22,690 --> 02:34:23,270
They're going to track you.

4460
02:34:23,310 --> 02:34:25,030
I mean, these people have watched too many

4461
02:34:25,030 --> 02:34:29,330
instances of Handmaid's Tale.

4462
02:34:29,670 --> 02:34:29,770
Yeah.

4463
02:34:31,490 --> 02:34:31,930
Handmaid's Tale.

4464
02:34:31,930 --> 02:34:33,750
I think it's a documentary or something.

4465
02:34:34,090 --> 02:34:35,410
It's been beyond me.

4466
02:34:36,550 --> 02:34:38,510
Yeah, but it's sad.

4467
02:34:38,750 --> 02:34:40,870
Well, the LGBTQ thing seems to have taken

4468
02:34:40,870 --> 02:34:40,970
a toll on me.

4469
02:34:40,970 --> 02:34:43,370
This is the new thing.

4470
02:34:44,090 --> 02:34:47,310
And they are somehow, they feel empowered by

4471
02:34:47,310 --> 02:34:49,750
talking this way on TikTok or wherever else.

4472
02:34:49,830 --> 02:34:51,130
I don't see it on Instagram.

4473
02:34:52,150 --> 02:34:53,690
At least not in Tina's album.

4474
02:34:53,690 --> 02:34:54,590
No, not like this.

4475
02:34:54,710 --> 02:34:56,850
No, it's on TikTok and then it's transferred

4476
02:34:56,850 --> 02:34:57,850
to Twitter.

4477
02:34:58,410 --> 02:34:58,670
Yeah.

4478
02:34:58,890 --> 02:35:02,630
By four or five major players on Twitter

4479
02:35:02,630 --> 02:35:04,790
that think it's hilarious and they bring the

4480
02:35:04,790 --> 02:35:05,450
clips over.

4481
02:35:05,590 --> 02:35:07,510
Well, it's- And then ridicule them.

4482
02:35:07,570 --> 02:35:10,890
Yeah, it's definitely happening on Blue Cross.

4483
02:35:10,910 --> 02:35:12,370
Over there, it's a lot of that.

4484
02:35:12,590 --> 02:35:13,850
But that's legit there.

4485
02:35:14,030 --> 02:35:14,510
Oh, yeah.

4486
02:35:14,570 --> 02:35:15,110
It's legit.

4487
02:35:15,170 --> 02:35:15,890
Yeah, it's legit.

4488
02:35:17,230 --> 02:35:19,730
On the Trans Maoist tip, I do have

4489
02:35:19,730 --> 02:35:21,050
a clip here.

4490
02:35:22,290 --> 02:35:25,350
This is Robbie Starbuck, Starbuck, Starbuck.

4491
02:35:25,690 --> 02:35:28,550
Kid's been doing amazing work as Walmart now

4492
02:35:28,550 --> 02:35:32,950
is backing off on DEI policies and things

4493
02:35:32,950 --> 02:35:34,190
of such like.

4494
02:35:34,430 --> 02:35:37,410
This morning, the world's largest retailer says it's

4495
02:35:37,410 --> 02:35:40,050
rolling back some of its diversity, equity and

4496
02:35:40,050 --> 02:35:41,150
inclusion policies.

4497
02:35:41,510 --> 02:35:43,350
Walmart, which employs more than one and a

4498
02:35:43,350 --> 02:35:46,010
half million Americans, joins a list of major

4499
02:35:46,010 --> 02:35:48,870
corporations revising DEI initiatives.

4500
02:35:49,390 --> 02:35:51,830
The company saying every decision comes from a

4501
02:35:51,830 --> 02:35:54,190
place of wanting to foster a sense of

4502
02:35:54,190 --> 02:35:56,710
belonging, to open doors to opportunities for all

4503
02:35:56,710 --> 02:35:59,070
our associates, customers and suppliers.

4504
02:35:59,690 --> 02:36:01,810
This is the single largest employer in the

4505
02:36:01,810 --> 02:36:02,270
United States.

4506
02:36:02,310 --> 02:36:03,670
We are talking about a company that is

4507
02:36:03,670 --> 02:36:05,890
worth almost a trillion dollars on its own.

4508
02:36:05,890 --> 02:36:09,090
Robbie Starbuck, a political commentator and anti-DEI

4509
02:36:09,090 --> 02:36:10,910
activist, celebrated the development.

4510
02:36:11,130 --> 02:36:14,190
He's previously pressured companies, including Lowe's and John

4511
02:36:14,190 --> 02:36:16,170
Deere, to change their policies.

4512
02:36:16,370 --> 02:36:17,990
We were able to have frank conversations with

4513
02:36:17,990 --> 02:36:18,270
Walmart.

4514
02:36:18,450 --> 02:36:19,610
And as I've said for a long time,

4515
02:36:19,790 --> 02:36:21,570
I don't ask companies to take on my

4516
02:36:21,570 --> 02:36:22,210
political views.

4517
02:36:22,390 --> 02:36:24,550
I am simply advocating for corporate neutrality.

4518
02:36:24,730 --> 02:36:26,670
Walmart says many of the changes to its

4519
02:36:26,670 --> 02:36:29,490
DEI programs were already planned and not a

4520
02:36:29,490 --> 02:36:31,390
result of conversations with Starbuck.

4521
02:36:31,510 --> 02:36:33,930
The company is pledging to better monitor third

4522
02:36:33,930 --> 02:36:36,350
party marketplace items to make sure they don't

4523
02:36:36,350 --> 02:36:39,610
feature sexual and transgender products aimed at minors.

4524
02:36:39,810 --> 02:36:41,990
Walmart says it will also review its funding

4525
02:36:41,990 --> 02:36:44,450
to Pride events and will end racial equity

4526
02:36:44,450 --> 02:36:46,130
training programs for staff.

4527
02:36:46,350 --> 02:36:49,750
GLAAD, an LGBTQ advocacy group, has said we

4528
02:36:49,750 --> 02:36:53,350
cannot let fear and fringe anti-LGBTQ activists

4529
02:36:53,350 --> 02:36:55,230
dilute the work that has been done in

4530
02:36:55,230 --> 02:36:58,330
the name of visibility, acceptance and opportunity.

4531
02:36:58,570 --> 02:37:00,190
Companies need to listen to our movement.

4532
02:37:00,350 --> 02:37:02,470
We are powerful and growing every single day.

4533
02:37:02,470 --> 02:37:04,450
We will not stop until we have eliminated

4534
02:37:04,450 --> 02:37:05,650
wokeness in corporate America.

4535
02:37:07,010 --> 02:37:09,170
Walmart also says it will no longer consider

4536
02:37:09,170 --> 02:37:11,090
race and gender as a way to increase

4537
02:37:11,090 --> 02:37:13,870
diversity when offering supplier contracts.

4538
02:37:15,510 --> 02:37:16,970
Yeah, there you go.

4539
02:37:18,530 --> 02:37:20,690
A lot of changes, a lot of changes

4540
02:37:20,690 --> 02:37:21,130
happening.

4541
02:37:22,670 --> 02:37:24,690
I guess their base got pissed off enough

4542
02:37:24,690 --> 02:37:25,070
with them.

4543
02:37:26,870 --> 02:37:28,250
Yes, I would think so.

4544
02:37:29,810 --> 02:37:31,010
I have a...

4545
02:37:31,010 --> 02:37:35,030
I have one more quickie about the women's

4546
02:37:35,030 --> 02:37:35,530
volleyball.

4547
02:37:35,670 --> 02:37:36,870
I didn't know this was a thing.

4548
02:37:37,030 --> 02:37:39,610
I didn't know there was controversy in women's

4549
02:37:39,610 --> 02:37:40,390
volleyball.

4550
02:37:41,630 --> 02:37:42,210
We've only heard of...

4551
02:37:42,210 --> 02:37:42,610
I didn't know there was.

4552
02:37:42,930 --> 02:37:44,750
Yeah, well, yeah, because of San Jose State.

4553
02:37:45,070 --> 02:37:45,610
Let me see.

4554
02:37:45,850 --> 02:37:47,430
Well, Gio, we turn now to the growing

4555
02:37:47,430 --> 02:37:50,190
controversy in women's college volleyball and how some

4556
02:37:50,190 --> 02:37:52,770
schools are forfeiting games because they say a

4557
02:37:52,770 --> 02:37:55,470
rival program has a transgender athlete.

4558
02:37:55,910 --> 02:37:57,470
ABC's Jacqueline Lee joins us now.

4559
02:37:57,570 --> 02:37:58,450
Jacqueline, good morning.

4560
02:37:59,250 --> 02:37:59,830
Wait, good morning.

4561
02:37:59,830 --> 02:38:02,090
Yes, a lot of controversy indeed.

4562
02:38:02,370 --> 02:38:04,690
The argument here is whether she should be

4563
02:38:04,690 --> 02:38:05,710
allowed to play.

4564
02:38:06,090 --> 02:38:08,250
A federal judge just ruled that the San

4565
02:38:08,250 --> 02:38:11,170
Jose State women's team is eligible to play

4566
02:38:11,170 --> 02:38:13,770
with its full roster in the Mountain West

4567
02:38:13,770 --> 02:38:17,410
Volleyball Championship Tournament, which includes that player.

4568
02:38:17,950 --> 02:38:20,230
This ruling is the latest in a controversy

4569
02:38:20,230 --> 02:38:22,130
that has played out most of the season.

4570
02:38:22,630 --> 02:38:24,770
Boise State pulling out of the tournament in

4571
02:38:24,770 --> 02:38:27,390
protest, saying in part that the decision was

4572
02:38:27,390 --> 02:38:29,490
not an easy one and the team should

4573
02:38:29,490 --> 02:38:32,150
not have to forego this opportunity while waiting

4574
02:38:32,150 --> 02:38:34,810
for a more thoughtful and better system that

4575
02:38:34,810 --> 02:38:36,210
serves all athletes.

4576
02:38:36,830 --> 02:38:39,430
San Jose State is seated second in the

4577
02:38:39,430 --> 02:38:43,230
conference tournament after receiving six forfeit victories from

4578
02:38:43,230 --> 02:38:44,070
these boycotts.

4579
02:38:44,370 --> 02:38:46,690
Now, it all started after volleyball players from

4580
02:38:46,690 --> 02:38:49,790
various schools within the Mountain West Conference and

4581
02:38:49,790 --> 02:38:52,130
even a player and assistant coach on San

4582
02:38:52,130 --> 02:38:54,770
Jose filed a lawsuit that said this player

4583
02:38:54,770 --> 02:38:57,650
should not be allowed to participate because they

4584
02:38:57,650 --> 02:38:58,890
say she is transgender.

4585
02:38:59,670 --> 02:39:02,470
In the past, multiple Mountain West members forfeited

4586
02:39:02,470 --> 02:39:04,010
their matches over this issue.

4587
02:39:04,470 --> 02:39:07,270
Nevada's players stating they refuse to participate in

4588
02:39:07,270 --> 02:39:10,810
any match that advances injustice against female athletes.

4589
02:39:11,110 --> 02:39:12,910
The volleyball player has not spoken about her

4590
02:39:12,910 --> 02:39:13,310
identity.

4591
02:39:13,830 --> 02:39:15,690
San Jose State has not commented due to

4592
02:39:15,690 --> 02:39:18,270
federal privacy laws, but the university says they

4593
02:39:18,270 --> 02:39:20,390
look forward to competing for a championship that

4594
02:39:20,390 --> 02:39:21,630
takes place later today.

4595
02:39:22,150 --> 02:39:24,330
Oh, all up in California, man.

4596
02:39:25,350 --> 02:39:28,670
Well, this story stems from a injury that

4597
02:39:28,670 --> 02:39:31,710
happened with a, this woman on this volleyball

4598
02:39:31,710 --> 02:39:33,730
team is a dude in a dress.

4599
02:39:33,810 --> 02:39:35,210
I think she still has a dick.

4600
02:39:35,210 --> 02:39:35,770
Oh, John!

4601
02:39:36,850 --> 02:39:37,110
What?

4602
02:39:38,130 --> 02:39:38,570
Okay.

4603
02:39:38,890 --> 02:39:39,950
Yeah, that's all right.

4604
02:39:40,030 --> 02:39:41,170
Well, you're the one who always says dude

4605
02:39:41,170 --> 02:39:42,990
in a dress, and now you're condemning me?

4606
02:39:43,210 --> 02:39:44,990
Oh, dude in a dress, I say that,

4607
02:39:45,070 --> 02:39:46,210
but you went and took it one step

4608
02:39:46,210 --> 02:39:46,610
further.

4609
02:39:48,410 --> 02:39:51,450
Some woman was, because it's a spiker.

4610
02:39:52,030 --> 02:39:53,830
So you're in the front line and you

4611
02:39:53,830 --> 02:39:56,150
spike the ball, and some poor girl got

4612
02:39:56,150 --> 02:39:58,710
hit in the head and get hospitalized, I

4613
02:39:58,710 --> 02:39:58,970
think.

4614
02:39:58,990 --> 02:39:59,770
And hurt, yeah.

4615
02:39:59,850 --> 02:40:00,650
With a concussion.

4616
02:40:00,770 --> 02:40:00,870
Yeah.

4617
02:40:02,310 --> 02:40:06,290
And the players said this spiker is really

4618
02:40:06,290 --> 02:40:08,730
good at spiking the ball.

4619
02:40:09,030 --> 02:40:09,290
Yeah.

4620
02:40:09,470 --> 02:40:12,670
And so the other, so there's been four

4621
02:40:12,670 --> 02:40:15,030
or five forfeits, and I'm thinking at first,

4622
02:40:15,170 --> 02:40:16,590
you know, it's all, it's a scandal, you

4623
02:40:16,590 --> 02:40:18,570
know, and there's something scandalous about it.

4624
02:40:18,570 --> 02:40:20,510
At the same time, if you can get

4625
02:40:20,510 --> 02:40:23,690
all the way to the top with forfeits,

4626
02:40:25,730 --> 02:40:27,670
you know, maybe it's a way of winning

4627
02:40:27,670 --> 02:40:29,330
an NCAA championship.

4628
02:40:30,390 --> 02:40:33,030
Well, listen to this article in the New

4629
02:40:33,030 --> 02:40:34,170
York Times about this.

4630
02:40:34,290 --> 02:40:37,130
The NCAA says trans volleyball players are eligible

4631
02:40:37,130 --> 02:40:39,910
to play if their testosterone level is less

4632
02:40:39,910 --> 02:40:42,910
than 10 nanomoles per liter.

4633
02:40:43,250 --> 02:40:45,270
That's at least four times more than what

4634
02:40:45,270 --> 02:40:47,190
many experts say is the top of the

4635
02:40:47,190 --> 02:40:49,950
range for non-transgender women.

4636
02:40:51,330 --> 02:40:54,550
The New York Times now calls women non

4637
02:40:54,550 --> 02:40:55,710
-transgender women.

4638
02:40:59,140 --> 02:40:59,920
No, that's interesting.

4639
02:41:00,060 --> 02:41:00,940
That's not interesting.

4640
02:41:01,100 --> 02:41:01,900
It's just wrong.

4641
02:41:02,280 --> 02:41:04,080
Well, it's interesting to me.

4642
02:41:04,160 --> 02:41:04,380
Yeah.

4643
02:41:04,660 --> 02:41:07,700
But now, yeah, I know it is wrong.

4644
02:41:07,860 --> 02:41:09,840
But this is, but the idea of winning

4645
02:41:09,840 --> 02:41:12,480
a championship just by putting some big dude

4646
02:41:12,480 --> 02:41:15,720
on there and say, okay, girls, you know,

4647
02:41:15,760 --> 02:41:16,540
you can't take it.

4648
02:41:16,540 --> 02:41:19,740
Now, there was the University of California, with

4649
02:41:19,740 --> 02:41:24,660
no transgender anybody's, once had a rugby team

4650
02:41:24,660 --> 02:41:28,820
that was so dominant in men's rugby, which

4651
02:41:28,820 --> 02:41:29,780
is a rough sport.

4652
02:41:30,600 --> 02:41:35,460
That Stanford, the Stanford men forfeited because they

4653
02:41:35,460 --> 02:41:36,600
thought they might get hurt.

4654
02:41:38,440 --> 02:41:41,160
So this, which is, by the way, embarrasses

4655
02:41:41,160 --> 02:41:42,860
everyone from Stanford to this day.

4656
02:41:44,920 --> 02:41:46,640
And so they thought they might get hurt.

4657
02:41:46,680 --> 02:41:47,340
So they forfeited.

4658
02:41:47,600 --> 02:41:49,660
And then this Cal team kept winning every

4659
02:41:49,660 --> 02:41:51,240
championship for years.

4660
02:41:53,820 --> 02:41:54,700
So I don't know.

4661
02:41:54,880 --> 02:41:56,480
I have mixed feelings about the idea.

4662
02:41:56,580 --> 02:41:58,340
Well, you get a championship out of this,

4663
02:41:58,420 --> 02:42:00,620
and this seems to be quote unquote legal.

4664
02:42:00,620 --> 02:42:02,960
So let's just do it, take our trophy

4665
02:42:02,960 --> 02:42:04,440
home, and then we can kick this poor

4666
02:42:04,440 --> 02:42:05,320
dude off the team.

4667
02:42:05,420 --> 02:42:07,260
It just seems that we have, you know,

4668
02:42:07,260 --> 02:42:11,120
report after report of women being mad about

4669
02:42:12,220 --> 02:42:15,860
so-called loss of their rights while the

4670
02:42:15,860 --> 02:42:19,920
mainstream parlance is erasing them.

4671
02:42:20,640 --> 02:42:21,780
You're no longer a woman.

4672
02:42:21,980 --> 02:42:23,400
You're a non-trans woman.

4673
02:42:23,660 --> 02:42:24,580
Yeah, blame Trump.

4674
02:42:24,660 --> 02:42:27,260
You can't blame Trump for this trans woman

4675
02:42:27,260 --> 02:42:31,000
on the San Jose State volleyball team.

4676
02:42:31,540 --> 02:42:36,860
This is a short circuit in the collective

4677
02:42:36,860 --> 02:42:37,560
unconscious.

4678
02:42:38,740 --> 02:42:40,540
You know, now I understand a guy in

4679
02:42:40,540 --> 02:42:41,660
church that he plays guitar.

4680
02:42:41,900 --> 02:42:43,440
He came up to me and said, please,

4681
02:42:43,580 --> 02:42:47,440
please tell John, because of him, I still

4682
02:42:47,440 --> 02:42:49,280
have some hope for California.

4683
02:42:53,840 --> 02:42:55,440
That's the response I had.

4684
02:42:55,820 --> 02:42:57,620
I said, you know, he's like the last

4685
02:42:57,620 --> 02:42:58,640
of the Mohicans, right?

4686
02:42:58,740 --> 02:43:01,460
You know, he's the only holdout left.

4687
02:43:02,460 --> 02:43:03,320
It's switching.

4688
02:43:03,520 --> 02:43:04,540
It moved.

4689
02:43:04,880 --> 02:43:07,460
It moved red a little bit.

4690
02:43:07,680 --> 02:43:08,400
Yeah, just a tad.

4691
02:43:08,500 --> 02:43:10,080
And once they fix the election so it's

4692
02:43:10,080 --> 02:43:12,900
not rigged all the time, you know, it'll

4693
02:43:12,900 --> 02:43:13,500
even out.

4694
02:43:13,580 --> 02:43:15,200
They're still counting in California.

4695
02:43:16,000 --> 02:43:17,080
Yes, well, you have to.

4696
02:43:17,980 --> 02:43:20,960
They have to keep shooting people who get

4697
02:43:20,960 --> 02:43:21,440
it wrong.

4698
02:43:23,280 --> 02:43:25,760
I mean, it's like it's all the mail

4699
02:43:25,760 --> 02:43:26,900
-in ballots too.

4700
02:43:27,660 --> 02:43:30,000
Like people have a week grace period and

4701
02:43:30,000 --> 02:43:32,140
there's 26 days if there's an issue with

4702
02:43:32,140 --> 02:43:32,580
your signature.

4703
02:43:33,320 --> 02:43:34,780
It is ridiculous.

4704
02:43:35,860 --> 02:43:39,980
California, beautiful, beautiful nature in California.

4705
02:43:40,720 --> 02:43:42,080
Too bad the people live there.

4706
02:43:43,380 --> 02:43:44,580
Well, the nature is good.

4707
02:43:44,680 --> 02:43:45,500
The weather's nice today.

4708
02:43:45,560 --> 02:43:46,680
We have a nice day, but I want

4709
02:43:46,680 --> 02:43:48,300
to play my weather report I have.

4710
02:43:48,400 --> 02:43:48,800
Okay.

4711
02:43:49,460 --> 02:43:50,880
Because our California team is going to be

4712
02:43:50,880 --> 02:43:52,260
playing in this neck of the woods.

4713
02:43:53,260 --> 02:43:56,040
Parts of the Great Lakes region are plowing

4714
02:43:56,040 --> 02:43:59,260
out as a major storm continues to bring

4715
02:43:59,260 --> 02:44:00,800
heavy snow to the area.

4716
02:44:00,800 --> 02:44:04,480
Forecasters say towns along Lake Erie and Lake

4717
02:44:04,480 --> 02:44:07,920
Ontario could continue to see accumulations of three

4718
02:44:07,920 --> 02:44:08,780
inches an hour.

4719
02:44:09,160 --> 02:44:11,980
New York Governor Kathy Hochul has declared a

4720
02:44:11,980 --> 02:44:14,920
disaster emergency in some parts of the state.

4721
02:44:15,240 --> 02:44:18,080
Well, that's weather report for New York.

4722
02:44:18,660 --> 02:44:20,980
But yes, Buffalo, New York, where the 49ers

4723
02:44:20,980 --> 02:44:22,220
are playing tonight.

4724
02:44:22,420 --> 02:44:24,900
And there's supposed to be six feet of

4725
02:44:24,900 --> 02:44:26,100
snow at the stadium.

4726
02:44:26,380 --> 02:44:26,740
Wow.

4727
02:44:28,380 --> 02:44:30,120
I think they should just leave it.

4728
02:44:30,120 --> 02:44:32,160
Leave the six feet of snow and play

4729
02:44:32,160 --> 02:44:36,700
football within the six foot snow bank.

4730
02:44:36,800 --> 02:44:37,560
You could dig through.

4731
02:44:37,700 --> 02:44:38,700
You know, people won't see you.

4732
02:44:39,160 --> 02:44:40,500
They try to tackle you, but you're digging

4733
02:44:40,500 --> 02:44:41,720
away underneath the snow.

4734
02:44:42,100 --> 02:44:43,320
I think you'd have a lot of fun.

4735
02:44:43,780 --> 02:44:45,040
While we're on sports.

4736
02:44:45,360 --> 02:44:46,580
How about them horns, huh?

4737
02:44:46,800 --> 02:44:47,300
Hook them horns.

4738
02:44:49,620 --> 02:44:50,640
Hook them horns.

4739
02:44:51,560 --> 02:44:52,980
I just wanted to impress you.

4740
02:44:53,800 --> 02:44:55,780
I followed a game.

4741
02:44:56,740 --> 02:44:57,200
You saw it.

4742
02:44:57,400 --> 02:44:58,740
Well, yeah, Texas won a game.

4743
02:44:58,980 --> 02:44:59,100
Yes.

4744
02:44:59,240 --> 02:45:00,000
Well, that's one of the...

4745
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:01,320
I think they're the top team in the

4746
02:45:01,320 --> 02:45:02,220
SEC right now.

4747
02:45:02,300 --> 02:45:03,140
Yeah, it's a big deal.

4748
02:45:03,320 --> 02:45:05,660
You know, the Longhorns against A&M, that's

4749
02:45:05,660 --> 02:45:06,880
an important game.

4750
02:45:07,060 --> 02:45:07,920
People get all jacked about that.

4751
02:45:07,920 --> 02:45:09,280
It wasn't even a close game.

4752
02:45:09,400 --> 02:45:11,000
No, but they get jacked about that stuff.

4753
02:45:11,140 --> 02:45:11,840
It's important.

4754
02:45:12,020 --> 02:45:12,780
So I talk about it.

4755
02:45:12,880 --> 02:45:15,500
The big games down there, not to talk

4756
02:45:15,500 --> 02:45:16,620
sports, and we're not going to talk it

4757
02:45:16,620 --> 02:45:18,860
after this, after I say this comment, used

4758
02:45:18,860 --> 02:45:21,600
to traditionally be Texas versus Oklahoma.

4759
02:45:22,760 --> 02:45:24,680
Every year was like the big deal.

4760
02:45:24,820 --> 02:45:27,020
But Oklahoma kind of, you know, they just

4761
02:45:27,020 --> 02:45:27,740
couldn't keep up.

4762
02:45:27,740 --> 02:45:28,000
Hmm.

4763
02:45:29,400 --> 02:45:30,020
All right.

4764
02:45:30,040 --> 02:45:31,960
Let's do your climate change and get out

4765
02:45:31,960 --> 02:45:32,240
of here.

4766
02:45:32,720 --> 02:45:33,020
All right.

4767
02:45:33,040 --> 02:45:35,320
This climate change clip is from the...

4768
02:45:35,320 --> 02:45:36,860
I wanted to save it for...

4769
02:45:36,860 --> 02:45:40,260
I'll probably reintroduce it at some point.

4770
02:45:40,360 --> 02:45:42,120
But this is the guy who was one

4771
02:45:42,120 --> 02:45:43,860
of the founders of Greenpeace.

4772
02:45:44,160 --> 02:45:45,120
Oh, yeah.

4773
02:45:45,140 --> 02:45:46,600
The guy who turned.

4774
02:45:47,100 --> 02:45:48,040
He turned on everybody.

4775
02:45:48,300 --> 02:45:50,120
He turned because he was, you know, everything

4776
02:45:50,120 --> 02:45:52,240
had turned, you know, sour.

4777
02:45:52,620 --> 02:45:55,200
And he's skeptical about a lot of stuff.

4778
02:45:55,340 --> 02:45:55,800
And I just thought...

4779
02:45:55,800 --> 02:45:56,580
Wait, wait, wasn't it?

4780
02:45:57,140 --> 02:45:59,880
If I recall, there was a documentary.

4781
02:46:00,100 --> 02:46:01,920
It may have even been a CNN documentary

4782
02:46:01,920 --> 02:46:04,320
that played in movie theaters, I remember, because

4783
02:46:04,320 --> 02:46:05,200
I went to see it.

4784
02:46:05,400 --> 02:46:07,080
And it was about nuclear power.

4785
02:46:08,140 --> 02:46:10,460
And it was this guy who said, hey,

4786
02:46:10,480 --> 02:46:12,300
we were wrong about nuclear power.

4787
02:46:12,480 --> 02:46:13,420
We really need to, you know, if we

4788
02:46:13,420 --> 02:46:15,900
really care about green and we want to

4789
02:46:15,900 --> 02:46:17,800
save the planet, we need to go to

4790
02:46:17,800 --> 02:46:18,600
nuclear power.

4791
02:46:18,760 --> 02:46:20,080
And he got, you know...

4792
02:46:20,080 --> 02:46:21,040
That's the end of you.

4793
02:46:21,460 --> 02:46:22,560
Ejected from the group.

4794
02:46:23,240 --> 02:46:24,020
You're out.

4795
02:46:24,220 --> 02:46:25,060
You're out of there.

4796
02:46:25,080 --> 02:46:26,560
Until AI came along.

4797
02:46:26,560 --> 02:46:29,400
A mail group, a letter writing group.

4798
02:46:29,460 --> 02:46:30,120
What was that thing?

4799
02:46:30,300 --> 02:46:31,020
What's the term?

4800
02:46:32,300 --> 02:46:32,880
You're out.

4801
02:46:33,520 --> 02:46:33,640
Yeah.

4802
02:46:33,800 --> 02:46:35,720
You talked about earlier, the groups, these little

4803
02:46:35,720 --> 02:46:37,640
groups that you write notes to each other.

4804
02:46:37,820 --> 02:46:39,120
The text group.

4805
02:46:39,920 --> 02:46:41,300
The text group.

4806
02:46:41,600 --> 02:46:42,480
The text message group.

4807
02:46:45,020 --> 02:46:46,640
That lady was right.

4808
02:46:47,060 --> 02:46:48,340
We're too old boomers.

4809
02:46:49,340 --> 02:46:51,180
They don't even know what a text message

4810
02:46:51,180 --> 02:46:51,920
group is.

4811
02:46:54,300 --> 02:46:55,720
So he's out.

4812
02:46:55,720 --> 02:46:57,480
But now he can tell like it is.

4813
02:46:57,540 --> 02:46:58,780
And I think this is a very good

4814
02:46:58,780 --> 02:46:59,200
summary.

4815
02:46:59,420 --> 02:47:00,440
I'm still laughing.

4816
02:47:00,940 --> 02:47:01,860
What was that called?

4817
02:47:01,920 --> 02:47:03,380
What's that thing where you all text each

4818
02:47:03,380 --> 02:47:03,580
other?

4819
02:47:03,700 --> 02:47:04,600
A little message group?

4820
02:47:04,720 --> 02:47:04,820
Yeah.

4821
02:47:05,140 --> 02:47:05,780
Text group.

4822
02:47:05,920 --> 02:47:06,180
Yes.

4823
02:47:06,220 --> 02:47:07,240
It's called the text group.

4824
02:47:07,340 --> 02:47:09,160
One of my missions is to turn on

4825
02:47:09,160 --> 02:47:12,160
its head the idea that carbon dioxide is

4826
02:47:12,160 --> 02:47:13,840
a pollutant and somehow dangerous.

4827
02:47:14,180 --> 02:47:16,400
When in fact, it is the most important

4828
02:47:16,400 --> 02:47:18,340
nutrient for all life on earth.

4829
02:47:18,400 --> 02:47:19,920
And without it, this would be a dead

4830
02:47:19,920 --> 02:47:20,260
planet.

4831
02:47:20,520 --> 02:47:22,720
So I say not only is carbon dioxide

4832
02:47:22,720 --> 02:47:24,500
good, it is essential.

4833
02:47:25,220 --> 02:47:27,120
And it's a good thing that we're putting

4834
02:47:27,120 --> 02:47:29,720
some more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere because

4835
02:47:29,720 --> 02:47:32,180
it was running low before we came along.

4836
02:47:32,440 --> 02:47:34,600
If we had definitive proof that CO2 was

4837
02:47:34,600 --> 02:47:37,100
causing serious problems and we could prove it,

4838
02:47:37,340 --> 02:47:38,820
don't you think they would write that down

4839
02:47:38,820 --> 02:47:40,500
on a piece of paper somewhere so people

4840
02:47:40,500 --> 02:47:41,100
could read it?

4841
02:47:41,260 --> 02:47:44,340
They don't have definitive proof, period, in science.

4842
02:47:44,540 --> 02:47:47,340
I'm a student of the philosophy and history

4843
02:47:47,340 --> 02:47:47,900
of science.

4844
02:47:48,240 --> 02:47:51,040
And I know that the scientific method has

4845
02:47:51,040 --> 02:47:52,840
not been applied in such a way as

4846
02:47:52,840 --> 02:47:55,340
to prove that carbon dioxide is causing the

4847
02:47:55,340 --> 02:47:55,940
earth to warm.

4848
02:47:56,520 --> 02:47:57,780
Do you think in a few years, say

4849
02:47:57,780 --> 02:47:59,380
50 years from now, people will go, that

4850
02:47:59,380 --> 02:48:01,460
was a really stupid period in our history

4851
02:48:01,460 --> 02:48:03,800
when we tried to change all our energy

4852
02:48:03,800 --> 02:48:05,020
policies to cut this gas?

4853
02:48:05,460 --> 02:48:07,980
I am firmly of the belief that the

4854
02:48:07,980 --> 02:48:11,060
future will show that this whole hysteria over

4855
02:48:11,060 --> 02:48:13,760
climate change was a complete fabrication.

4856
02:48:14,140 --> 02:48:15,420
Wow, where was this from?

4857
02:48:17,040 --> 02:48:18,760
It was from one of the British, or

4858
02:48:18,760 --> 02:48:21,940
I'm sorry, one of the foreign news agencies.

4859
02:48:22,600 --> 02:48:23,540
I don't remember which one.

4860
02:48:24,100 --> 02:48:24,960
Well, good for him.

4861
02:48:25,940 --> 02:48:26,820
Excuse me.

4862
02:48:27,500 --> 02:48:28,960
He's telling it like it is.

4863
02:48:29,360 --> 02:48:30,920
I need to get back to the text

4864
02:48:30,920 --> 02:48:31,600
group for a moment.

4865
02:48:33,600 --> 02:48:36,520
So you do, you actually, without knowing it,

4866
02:48:36,540 --> 02:48:39,780
you do know about these because the text

4867
02:48:39,780 --> 02:48:44,460
group, if you are on an Android phone,

4868
02:48:44,860 --> 02:48:48,800
on iPhones, the text group, everything is in

4869
02:48:48,800 --> 02:48:49,860
blue on the iPhone.

4870
02:48:50,020 --> 02:48:51,920
If you show up with an Android phone

4871
02:48:51,920 --> 02:48:53,420
and you're in the text group, you show

4872
02:48:53,420 --> 02:48:55,880
up as a green bubble and you are

4873
02:48:55,880 --> 02:48:57,820
considered an undateable loser.

4874
02:49:00,790 --> 02:49:02,130
You know about this phenomenon.

4875
02:49:02,330 --> 02:49:04,230
Is that dateable thing with the iPhone still

4876
02:49:04,230 --> 02:49:04,870
in play?

4877
02:49:05,050 --> 02:49:06,030
Oh, yes.

4878
02:49:06,370 --> 02:49:07,090
Oh, yes.

4879
02:49:07,630 --> 02:49:08,450
I think so.

4880
02:49:08,490 --> 02:49:09,090
That is pathetic.

4881
02:49:09,490 --> 02:49:13,190
And I'll tell you something else because everyone,

4882
02:49:13,350 --> 02:49:15,850
pretty much everybody I know has iPhones.

4883
02:49:16,890 --> 02:49:17,930
So Tina- Do you?

4884
02:49:18,390 --> 02:49:18,930
No.

4885
02:49:19,730 --> 02:49:21,270
No, I have my- Where's Tina?

4886
02:49:21,630 --> 02:49:22,010
Yes.

4887
02:49:22,330 --> 02:49:25,070
I have my cat twin, my cat S22,

4888
02:49:25,310 --> 02:49:28,130
which has an Android Go operating system.

4889
02:49:28,450 --> 02:49:29,650
So check it out.

4890
02:49:29,990 --> 02:49:31,730
So the minute- So Tina and I

4891
02:49:31,730 --> 02:49:33,750
are in a text group with a married

4892
02:49:33,750 --> 02:49:34,770
couple, friends of ours.

4893
02:49:35,950 --> 02:49:38,210
And the minute they got new- Tina

4894
02:49:38,210 --> 02:49:39,470
still has her- She doesn't care.

4895
02:49:39,530 --> 02:49:40,590
She doesn't want a new iPhone.

4896
02:49:40,730 --> 02:49:41,310
She's ridiculous.

4897
02:49:41,410 --> 02:49:43,970
Not going to spend money on this huge

4898
02:49:43,970 --> 02:49:44,270
thing.

4899
02:49:44,570 --> 02:49:45,490
What does it do?

4900
02:49:45,610 --> 02:49:46,750
She doesn't see the benefit.

4901
02:49:46,990 --> 02:49:48,490
Certainly not Apple intelligence.

4902
02:49:49,230 --> 02:49:51,730
The minute they got their new iPhones, I

4903
02:49:51,730 --> 02:49:53,130
kept on getting kicked out of the group.

4904
02:49:53,870 --> 02:49:56,070
And it'll say, Adam has left the group.

4905
02:49:57,750 --> 02:50:00,850
And this is not discussed anywhere, but Android

4906
02:50:00,850 --> 02:50:03,070
phones are being kicked out of text groups

4907
02:50:03,630 --> 02:50:05,650
of iPhones that are the new models.

4908
02:50:06,610 --> 02:50:08,350
Or maybe the new operating system.

4909
02:50:08,470 --> 02:50:09,570
Something is going on.

4910
02:50:12,620 --> 02:50:12,840
Huh.

4911
02:50:15,260 --> 02:50:17,900
Believe me, I'm horribly- I'm so upset

4912
02:50:17,900 --> 02:50:18,600
about this.

4913
02:50:18,960 --> 02:50:19,480
But it is.

4914
02:50:20,160 --> 02:50:22,840
But you're already- There's- In Europe,

4915
02:50:23,060 --> 02:50:25,620
there's legislation pending about this.

4916
02:50:26,740 --> 02:50:30,300
That there has to be parity between other

4917
02:50:30,300 --> 02:50:32,020
operating system and text groups.

4918
02:50:32,120 --> 02:50:32,820
It's a big deal.

4919
02:50:33,860 --> 02:50:35,380
Not all the features work.

4920
02:50:35,860 --> 02:50:38,080
So you can't do all the emojis and

4921
02:50:38,080 --> 02:50:39,280
all the- Oh, no.

4922
02:50:42,060 --> 02:50:43,900
All the group- I finally got some

4923
02:50:43,900 --> 02:50:45,360
emojis that everybody can see.

4924
02:50:45,440 --> 02:50:46,440
But then they just kicked me out of

4925
02:50:46,440 --> 02:50:46,700
the group.

4926
02:50:46,760 --> 02:50:47,280
I'm telling you.

4927
02:50:47,880 --> 02:50:48,500
I'm telling you.

4928
02:50:49,520 --> 02:50:50,800
It's anti-competitive.

4929
02:50:51,940 --> 02:50:52,720
They have a- I see.

4930
02:50:52,980 --> 02:50:55,540
Yeah, they have a lock on the text

4931
02:50:55,540 --> 02:50:55,940
group mark.

4932
02:50:56,680 --> 02:50:57,980
I'm going to add you to a text

4933
02:50:57,980 --> 02:50:58,260
group.

4934
02:50:58,820 --> 02:51:00,140
You might as well because I don't have

4935
02:51:00,140 --> 02:51:00,600
a phone.

4936
02:51:01,380 --> 02:51:02,480
Well, I do have a phone.

4937
02:51:02,640 --> 02:51:04,120
Ah, it was so perfectly timed.

4938
02:51:04,320 --> 02:51:04,820
Oh, God.

4939
02:51:04,860 --> 02:51:06,000
It was just outstanding.

4940
02:51:07,320 --> 02:51:09,380
Just say you might as well because I

4941
02:51:09,380 --> 02:51:10,080
don't have a phone.

4942
02:51:11,140 --> 02:51:12,360
Because I don't have a phone.

4943
02:51:26,280 --> 02:51:26,720
Perfect.

4944
02:51:26,860 --> 02:51:28,100
No one will notice that in the edit.

4945
02:51:28,260 --> 02:51:28,740
It's always so good.

4946
02:51:28,740 --> 02:51:32,240
I am on- What?

4947
02:51:32,500 --> 02:51:33,220
You're Android.

4948
02:51:33,380 --> 02:51:33,840
I'm sure you're Android.

4949
02:51:33,840 --> 02:51:35,840
Two years with a phone in a drawer.

4950
02:51:36,060 --> 02:51:36,820
Yes, I know.

4951
02:51:37,580 --> 02:51:37,920
I know.

4952
02:51:38,420 --> 02:51:41,180
You are- Everyone aspires to be you.

4953
02:51:42,800 --> 02:51:43,240
Yes.

4954
02:51:43,600 --> 02:51:45,220
Well, actually, when I tell people this, they

4955
02:51:45,220 --> 02:51:46,100
are very impressed.

4956
02:51:46,220 --> 02:51:47,480
Everyone's impressed by this.

4957
02:51:47,560 --> 02:51:48,740
It is impressive.

4958
02:51:48,920 --> 02:51:50,000
There's no doubt about it.

4959
02:51:50,240 --> 02:51:51,280
How can you do that?

4960
02:51:51,580 --> 02:51:54,060
Oh, you don't- How do you live

4961
02:51:54,060 --> 02:51:54,820
without a phone?

4962
02:51:55,220 --> 02:51:56,400
People have said that to me.

4963
02:51:56,720 --> 02:51:58,040
What is that phone you have?

4964
02:51:58,060 --> 02:51:59,980
How can you live without a regular phone?

4965
02:52:00,880 --> 02:52:02,160
Well, they do that with your phone.

4966
02:52:02,740 --> 02:52:04,700
Imagine how they feel when I tell them

4967
02:52:04,700 --> 02:52:05,520
I don't use- No phone.

4968
02:52:05,520 --> 02:52:06,700
I keep it in the drawer.

4969
02:52:07,100 --> 02:52:08,060
You're a no-phoner.

4970
02:52:10,160 --> 02:52:10,920
All right, everybody.

4971
02:52:11,000 --> 02:52:12,320
We're going to thank some people who supported

4972
02:52:12,320 --> 02:52:13,440
us, $50 and above.

4973
02:52:13,560 --> 02:52:14,800
We still have the tip of the day

4974
02:52:14,800 --> 02:52:15,240
coming up.

4975
02:52:15,300 --> 02:52:17,820
We've got end of show mixes and meetups.

4976
02:52:18,200 --> 02:52:20,260
Meetup report and many, many meetups on the

4977
02:52:20,260 --> 02:52:20,540
calendar.

4978
02:52:20,680 --> 02:52:22,600
John, let's thank those people now.

4979
02:52:22,600 --> 02:52:27,180
Yeah, let's start with Franklin Montarosa in Dodge

4980
02:52:27,180 --> 02:52:28,200
City, Kansas.

4981
02:52:28,500 --> 02:52:29,220
Dodge City.

4982
02:52:29,600 --> 02:52:29,860
Wow.

4983
02:52:30,200 --> 02:52:30,760
Dodge City.

4984
02:52:31,540 --> 02:52:33,420
17, 17, 17.

4985
02:52:33,580 --> 02:52:40,120
Oh, $117.17. Wayne Cartini in Torrington, Connecticut.

4986
02:52:40,820 --> 02:52:41,360
100.

4987
02:52:42,600 --> 02:52:43,700
He needs a deducing.

4988
02:52:45,480 --> 02:52:47,220
You've been deduced.

4989
02:52:47,680 --> 02:52:50,180
Actually, he says he needs a deducing.

4990
02:52:50,340 --> 02:52:51,160
A deducing?

4991
02:52:51,260 --> 02:52:51,500
Wow.

4992
02:52:51,520 --> 02:52:52,580
Yeah, take the twos away.

4993
02:52:52,600 --> 02:52:52,980
Okay.

4994
02:52:54,100 --> 02:52:59,840
The Alexandra Jagadish in Western Springs, Illinois.

4995
02:53:00,020 --> 02:53:00,320
100.

4996
02:53:01,320 --> 02:53:03,780
These people are wishing us Happy Thanksgiving, I

4997
02:53:03,780 --> 02:53:04,380
might add.

4998
02:53:05,120 --> 02:53:08,000
Joseph Stegman in Thousand Oaks, California.

4999
02:53:08,080 --> 02:53:08,360
100.

5000
02:53:11,060 --> 02:53:12,920
And Alexandra was 100.

5001
02:53:13,420 --> 02:53:15,720
Kevin McLaughlin, though, comes up with 8008.

5002
02:53:15,720 --> 02:53:18,380
He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America

5003
02:53:18,380 --> 02:53:18,860
and boobs.

5004
02:53:18,980 --> 02:53:19,540
Yes, he is.

5005
02:53:20,020 --> 02:53:22,380
And he's the only 8008 today.

5006
02:53:22,600 --> 02:53:24,440
Gary Blatt in Ashland, Kentucky.

5007
02:53:25,180 --> 02:53:25,700
7777.

5008
02:53:25,800 --> 02:53:27,700
Mark Dillahunt in Columbus, Ohio.

5009
02:53:28,620 --> 02:53:29,140
6969.

5010
02:53:29,620 --> 02:53:30,820
Craig, we don't have a lot today.

5011
02:53:30,940 --> 02:53:32,880
Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana.

5012
02:53:33,600 --> 02:53:34,120
6502.

5013
02:53:34,220 --> 02:53:37,040
The chip that nobody remembers but me.

5014
02:53:37,860 --> 02:53:39,980
Jamie Buell in Vista, California.

5015
02:53:40,940 --> 02:53:41,460
6006.

5016
02:53:42,320 --> 02:53:45,180
Wes Wagner in Fairbanks, Alaska.

5017
02:53:45,900 --> 02:53:46,420
60.

5018
02:53:46,640 --> 02:53:48,000
And he needs some sales karma.

5019
02:53:48,120 --> 02:53:49,420
We'll try to remember to give him that

5020
02:53:49,420 --> 02:53:50,160
at the end.

5021
02:53:50,400 --> 02:53:51,380
Sales karma.

5022
02:53:51,380 --> 02:53:53,740
He obviously needs it, or he'd be donating

5023
02:53:53,740 --> 02:53:54,160
more.

5024
02:53:55,660 --> 02:54:00,740
Walter Haffiker in Deutschland.

5025
02:54:01,660 --> 02:54:05,420
In Schachtlarn, Ebenhausen.

5026
02:54:06,640 --> 02:54:09,400
He says, you guys managed to bungle my

5027
02:54:09,400 --> 02:54:11,160
de-douching each time.

5028
02:54:12,560 --> 02:54:13,320
5275.

5029
02:54:13,360 --> 02:54:14,640
He needs a de-douching badly.

5030
02:54:16,240 --> 02:54:18,260
You've been de-douched.

5031
02:54:18,260 --> 02:54:20,480
And he also needs house-buying karma, which

5032
02:54:20,480 --> 02:54:22,000
I'll remember to put at the end for

5033
02:54:22,000 --> 02:54:22,800
you, Walter.

5034
02:54:24,720 --> 02:54:26,920
So we should have probably not given him

5035
02:54:26,920 --> 02:54:27,560
the de-douching.

5036
02:54:27,660 --> 02:54:28,820
He'd have to donate again.

5037
02:54:29,860 --> 02:54:32,040
Leif Thompson in Meridian, Idaho.

5038
02:54:32,200 --> 02:54:32,520
50.

5039
02:54:32,660 --> 02:54:34,240
Now we're at the 50s already.

5040
02:54:34,340 --> 02:54:35,460
This is a very short list today.

5041
02:54:35,520 --> 02:54:37,420
We didn't do very well after Thanksgiving, but

5042
02:54:37,420 --> 02:54:39,620
everyone's probably traveling, I'm guessing.

5043
02:54:39,980 --> 02:54:40,180
I hope.

5044
02:54:40,220 --> 02:54:41,560
Or they're being snowed in.

5045
02:54:41,970 --> 02:54:48,040
So Leif Thompson in Meridian, Bobby Bowe in

5046
02:54:48,040 --> 02:54:49,480
Bluegrass, Iowa.

5047
02:54:50,260 --> 02:54:53,460
Steven Sprague in Kennewick, Washington.

5048
02:54:54,200 --> 02:54:56,240
Joshua Johnson in Omaha.

5049
02:54:57,360 --> 02:55:00,360
Scott McCarty in Lodi.

5050
02:55:01,540 --> 02:55:03,800
Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado.

5051
02:55:04,080 --> 02:55:07,120
Jordan Tierney in Oral, South Dakota.

5052
02:55:07,690 --> 02:55:11,280
Gerald Preston in Bennington, Nebraska.

5053
02:55:12,100 --> 02:55:15,460
Leslie Walker in Roseburg, Oregon.

5054
02:55:16,300 --> 02:55:19,440
Michael Chauvin in Saginaw, Michigan.

5055
02:55:20,240 --> 02:55:21,480
Richard T.

5056
02:55:21,920 --> 02:55:24,800
Lang III in Milwaukee.

5057
02:55:26,520 --> 02:55:30,240
Mansoor Raad in Alpharetta, Georgia.

5058
02:55:30,740 --> 02:55:34,660
And last on our short list, and short

5059
02:55:34,660 --> 02:55:39,040
but sweet, Aichi Kitagawa here in San Francisco,

5060
02:55:39,240 --> 02:55:39,640
California.

5061
02:55:39,740 --> 02:55:40,760
I want to thank all these people for

5062
02:55:40,760 --> 02:55:44,800
making show 17, 17, 17 the reality that

5063
02:55:44,800 --> 02:55:45,340
it became.

5064
02:55:45,520 --> 02:55:47,640
And thanks again to everyone under $50 for

5065
02:55:47,640 --> 02:55:48,620
reasons of anonymity.

5066
02:55:48,720 --> 02:55:50,120
We will never mention those names.

5067
02:55:50,340 --> 02:55:52,320
And below that level, we also have our

5068
02:55:52,320 --> 02:55:53,120
sustaining donors.

5069
02:55:53,260 --> 02:55:55,100
Go to noagendadonations.com.

5070
02:55:55,220 --> 02:55:57,980
Return some value for this valuable service that

5071
02:55:57,980 --> 02:55:58,480
we provide.

5072
02:55:58,600 --> 02:55:59,120
We really do.

5073
02:55:59,240 --> 02:56:00,520
We provide this for you.

5074
02:56:00,820 --> 02:56:02,620
We try to help you make sense of

5075
02:56:02,620 --> 02:56:04,860
all the noise and nonsense that is swirling

5076
02:56:04,860 --> 02:56:08,320
through the ether in M5M and beyond, which

5077
02:56:08,320 --> 02:56:10,600
now, unfortunately, also includes podcasting.

5078
02:56:10,800 --> 02:56:12,040
noagendadonations.com.

5079
02:56:12,080 --> 02:56:13,880
Here is that karma as requested.

5080
02:56:14,760 --> 02:56:16,800
You've got karma.

5081
02:56:18,020 --> 02:56:19,460
noagendadonations.com.

5082
02:56:20,020 --> 02:56:25,100
It's your birthday, birthday, on No Agenda TV.

5083
02:56:25,160 --> 02:56:29,640
Jim Bobway wishes this beautiful, beautiful Duchess Mary

5084
02:56:29,640 --> 02:56:31,120
Ann Schneeberger a happy birthday.

5085
02:56:31,560 --> 02:56:33,200
She celebrated on the 25th.

5086
02:56:33,200 --> 02:56:34,480
I thought we already did that one, but

5087
02:56:34,480 --> 02:56:35,160
there it is again.

5088
02:56:35,540 --> 02:56:37,720
Sarah and Danny say happy birthday to Zach

5089
02:56:37,720 --> 02:56:39,380
turning 34 tomorrow.

5090
02:56:39,760 --> 02:56:43,040
Eric Harkins, Harkins turned 62 tomorrow.

5091
02:56:43,440 --> 02:56:46,340
Elizabeth Borozan, that is our Dame Elizabeth, should

5092
02:56:46,340 --> 02:56:47,540
be celebrating on the 2nd.

5093
02:56:47,860 --> 02:56:50,760
Alan Jay, Jay Allen, sorry, Pasadena on the

5094
02:56:50,760 --> 02:56:51,040
4th.

5095
02:56:51,240 --> 02:56:53,920
And we say happy birthday to Sarah Garipi.

5096
02:56:54,360 --> 02:56:56,340
And indeed, happy birthday from everybody here at

5097
02:56:56,340 --> 02:56:58,240
the best podcast in the universe.

5098
02:57:08,900 --> 02:57:11,940
We have three title changes today.

5099
02:57:12,060 --> 02:57:14,300
Jim Bobway, the Viscount of Shottsie and Mount

5100
02:57:14,300 --> 02:57:17,300
Arnold Land now becomes Jim Bobway, Duke of

5101
02:57:17,300 --> 02:57:19,420
Shottsie and, oh, Mr. Arnold Land.

5102
02:57:19,520 --> 02:57:21,060
I'm sorry, not Mount, Mr. Arnold Land.

5103
02:57:21,560 --> 02:57:24,600
Viscountess Mary Ann Schneeberger, now Duchess Mary Ann

5104
02:57:24,600 --> 02:57:28,380
Schneeberger, and surplus to requirements is now a

5105
02:57:28,380 --> 02:57:28,900
baronet.

5106
02:57:29,000 --> 02:57:31,240
Congratulations, and thank all of you for supporting

5107
02:57:31,240 --> 02:57:32,060
the Noah Jindal Show.

5108
02:57:32,420 --> 02:57:35,260
In a combined aggregated amount of another $1

5109
02:57:35,260 --> 02:57:37,340
,000, it is highly appreciated.

5110
02:57:37,600 --> 02:57:40,400
Noah Jindal Meetup!

5111
02:57:42,440 --> 02:57:45,400
Yeah, baby!

5112
02:57:45,960 --> 02:57:48,780
Meetups take place even during the holidays, during

5113
02:57:48,780 --> 02:57:49,820
the Christmas season.

5114
02:57:49,940 --> 02:57:50,420
It's great.

5115
02:57:50,540 --> 02:57:51,440
People get together.

5116
02:57:51,780 --> 02:57:53,160
They are married together.

5117
02:57:53,360 --> 02:57:54,720
Not married, but some are.

5118
02:57:54,720 --> 02:57:55,460
And they are married.

5119
02:57:55,560 --> 02:57:56,160
They're just happy.

5120
02:57:56,300 --> 02:57:56,940
They're joyful.

5121
02:57:57,400 --> 02:57:58,500
They're having a good time.

5122
02:57:58,800 --> 02:58:00,640
This is where you go to connect, to

5123
02:58:00,640 --> 02:58:01,300
get your protect.

5124
02:58:01,640 --> 02:58:03,320
It is the place to be for Noah

5125
02:58:03,320 --> 02:58:03,900
Jindal Nation.

5126
02:58:04,120 --> 02:58:07,740
A perfect, perfect addition to listening to the

5127
02:58:07,740 --> 02:58:08,000
show.

5128
02:58:08,380 --> 02:58:10,280
And the folks in New York City got

5129
02:58:10,280 --> 02:58:12,620
together, including Nick the Rat and the mayor.

5130
02:58:13,240 --> 02:58:16,380
Spooks and mayors and rats, oh my.

5131
02:58:17,160 --> 02:58:19,160
This is Dan Franco here with my wife,

5132
02:58:19,260 --> 02:58:21,720
Jen, hosting the Noah Jindal Meetup, New York

5133
02:58:21,720 --> 02:58:24,460
City, number seven, at the Bank Bar Cafe,

5134
02:58:24,980 --> 02:58:28,120
431 3rd Avenue and 30th Street in Manhattan.

5135
02:58:28,540 --> 02:58:30,660
Hello, this is Sir Chancey of the Netherworld

5136
02:58:30,660 --> 02:58:31,460
here in New York City.

5137
02:58:31,680 --> 02:58:33,560
Last meetup before the PayPal Mafia takes over

5138
02:58:33,560 --> 02:58:34,000
everything.

5139
02:58:34,280 --> 02:58:34,940
In the morning.

5140
02:58:35,260 --> 02:58:37,260
In the morning, it's First Buddy Steph.

5141
02:58:37,440 --> 02:58:39,220
Adam, I miss you saying hello.

5142
02:58:39,340 --> 02:58:41,400
In the morning, 0706.

5143
02:58:41,700 --> 02:58:43,800
It's not illegal if you do not get

5144
02:58:43,800 --> 02:58:44,120
caught.

5145
02:58:44,460 --> 02:58:45,760
Yes, CIA agent.

5146
02:58:45,960 --> 02:58:47,880
Hey, Adam and John, this is Nick the

5147
02:58:47,880 --> 02:58:48,080
Rat.

5148
02:58:48,220 --> 02:58:50,020
It's like Escape from New York over here.

5149
02:58:50,100 --> 02:58:51,060
Good work on the show.

5150
02:58:51,160 --> 02:58:51,780
Thank you, Danny.

5151
02:58:51,780 --> 02:58:52,420
For the show.

5152
02:58:52,600 --> 02:58:53,060
Party hall.

5153
02:58:53,160 --> 02:58:53,300
Yeah.

5154
02:58:53,400 --> 02:58:55,440
This is Sir Michael Anthony.

5155
02:58:56,360 --> 02:58:58,040
Also known as the mayor.

5156
02:58:59,000 --> 02:59:01,100
Making New York City great again.

5157
02:59:02,080 --> 02:59:05,060
It's Marky Mark, MK Ultra Mark, New York

5158
02:59:05,060 --> 02:59:06,540
City at the meetup.

5159
02:59:06,640 --> 02:59:08,380
Having a great time with all the people

5160
02:59:08,380 --> 02:59:08,760
here.

5161
02:59:08,960 --> 02:59:10,040
Can't wait for the next one.

5162
02:59:10,220 --> 02:59:11,060
Love you guys.

5163
02:59:11,160 --> 02:59:13,380
John C and Adam C.

5164
02:59:13,720 --> 02:59:14,420
You guys are the best.

5165
02:59:14,760 --> 02:59:15,220
All right.

5166
02:59:15,260 --> 02:59:16,640
They had a good time, obviously.

5167
02:59:16,820 --> 02:59:17,520
New York City.

5168
02:59:17,880 --> 02:59:19,900
Lovely that people still get together there who

5169
02:59:19,900 --> 02:59:20,580
listen to the show.

5170
02:59:20,580 --> 02:59:23,000
On Wednesday, the 4th of December, the Columbia

5171
02:59:23,000 --> 02:59:24,020
River Basin meetup.

5172
02:59:24,100 --> 02:59:25,820
It's the third times a charm meetup.

5173
02:59:25,960 --> 02:59:27,580
7 o'clock at Ty's Bar and Grill.

5174
02:59:27,940 --> 02:59:29,800
That's in West Richland, Washington.

5175
02:59:30,300 --> 02:59:32,240
On Thursday, our next show day, the 805

5176
02:59:32,240 --> 02:59:33,160
Rooftop Meetup.

5177
02:59:33,240 --> 02:59:35,860
You heard Dame Beth promote that earlier.

5178
02:59:35,960 --> 02:59:37,880
That'll be at 4 o'clock at Goleta

5179
02:59:37,880 --> 02:59:40,400
HGI Rooftop in Goleta, California.

5180
02:59:40,780 --> 02:59:43,220
Also on Thursday, the Outer Swamp Meetup.

5181
02:59:43,320 --> 02:59:45,980
6 o'clock at Java Nation, Rockville, Maryland.

5182
02:59:45,980 --> 02:59:48,960
The Northern Wake Publical Slave Gathering.

5183
02:59:49,040 --> 02:59:51,120
6 o'clock at Hoppy Endings in Raleigh,

5184
02:59:51,180 --> 02:59:51,880
North Carolina.

5185
02:59:52,400 --> 02:59:55,100
And finally on Thursday, Gitmo Brats and Festive

5186
02:59:55,100 --> 02:59:55,440
Hats.

5187
02:59:55,760 --> 02:59:58,680
6.30 at Jackson's Cozy Lounge in Gladewater,

5188
02:59:58,840 --> 02:59:59,140
Texas.

5189
02:59:59,880 --> 03:00:00,920
Where is Gladewater?

5190
03:00:01,080 --> 03:00:02,340
That sounds like a cool one to go

5191
03:00:02,340 --> 03:00:02,540
to.

5192
03:00:02,860 --> 03:00:05,080
We have many more meetups coming, including a

5193
03:00:05,080 --> 03:00:08,640
post-Sinterklaas meetup in Wageningen, Gelderland, the Netherlands.

5194
03:00:09,080 --> 03:00:10,520
On the 6th, let me see what else

5195
03:00:10,520 --> 03:00:11,040
we have.

5196
03:00:12,420 --> 03:00:13,420
Leiden, the Netherlands.

5197
03:00:13,520 --> 03:00:15,000
On the 12th, a lot happening in the

5198
03:00:15,000 --> 03:00:15,260
Netherlands.

5199
03:00:15,980 --> 03:00:18,080
December is a time everyone gets together.

5200
03:00:18,600 --> 03:00:19,980
And Savington coming up.

5201
03:00:20,060 --> 03:00:22,000
I mean, we have meetups all the way

5202
03:00:22,000 --> 03:00:24,580
up until, right up until almost Christmas Eve.

5203
03:00:24,760 --> 03:00:28,900
Then throughout that little period in between Christmas

5204
03:00:28,900 --> 03:00:30,640
and New Year's.

5205
03:00:30,800 --> 03:00:32,880
And in January, things already on the calendar.

5206
03:00:33,360 --> 03:00:35,260
It is something you need to witness at

5207
03:00:35,260 --> 03:00:35,740
least once.

5208
03:00:35,840 --> 03:00:37,600
I guarantee you, you will go back for

5209
03:00:37,600 --> 03:00:38,860
more of the No Agenda Meetups.

5210
03:00:39,140 --> 03:00:40,620
Go to noagendameetups.com.

5211
03:00:40,660 --> 03:00:43,000
If you can't find one near you, start

5212
03:00:43,000 --> 03:00:43,700
one yourself.

5213
03:00:43,840 --> 03:00:45,140
It's very easy to do.

5214
03:00:45,140 --> 03:00:46,760
And always a party.

5215
03:01:05,060 --> 03:01:07,980
It's like a party, baby.

5216
03:01:08,120 --> 03:01:09,520
John's tip of the day is coming up

5217
03:01:09,520 --> 03:01:10,240
momentarily.

5218
03:01:10,240 --> 03:01:13,160
Before we do that, we always like to

5219
03:01:13,160 --> 03:01:15,560
determine what we're going to play at the

5220
03:01:15,560 --> 03:01:16,520
close of the show.

5221
03:01:16,660 --> 03:01:17,940
I don't know why we do it, but

5222
03:01:17,940 --> 03:01:19,240
we love it for some reason.

5223
03:01:19,360 --> 03:01:19,980
It's always fun.

5224
03:01:20,060 --> 03:01:21,340
People like to send stuff in.

5225
03:01:21,780 --> 03:01:24,660
Very poor showing on my end for ISO.

5226
03:01:24,840 --> 03:01:25,720
They only have one.

5227
03:01:26,440 --> 03:01:28,240
So since you have three, I'm sure I'm

5228
03:01:28,240 --> 03:01:28,840
not going to win.

5229
03:01:28,940 --> 03:01:29,420
Here it is.

5230
03:01:29,540 --> 03:01:30,060
Thanks for this.

5231
03:01:30,720 --> 03:01:31,860
See, it's stupid.

5232
03:01:32,580 --> 03:01:33,440
Well, play it.

5233
03:01:33,660 --> 03:01:34,380
I just played it.

5234
03:01:34,400 --> 03:01:35,120
You didn't even hear it.

5235
03:01:35,140 --> 03:01:36,040
That's how bad it was.

5236
03:01:36,100 --> 03:01:36,600
Thanks for this.

5237
03:01:41,020 --> 03:01:42,840
Okay, well, I guess I probably will win

5238
03:01:42,840 --> 03:01:43,540
with one of these.

5239
03:01:43,840 --> 03:01:44,680
Yeah, they're all pretty good.

5240
03:01:44,740 --> 03:01:46,020
Let's start with this first one.

5241
03:01:46,180 --> 03:01:46,340
Bye.

5242
03:01:46,780 --> 03:01:47,560
B-B-B-B-bye.

5243
03:01:49,600 --> 03:01:51,460
B, by the way, you know how we

5244
03:01:51,460 --> 03:01:52,340
started the last show?

5245
03:01:52,340 --> 03:01:53,460
Oh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh,

5246
03:01:53,500 --> 03:01:53,780
buh, buh, buh.

5247
03:01:54,260 --> 03:01:54,560
Yeah.

5248
03:01:55,520 --> 03:01:59,380
So the TurboScribe.ai did a great job.

5249
03:01:59,460 --> 03:02:01,140
It had a whole row of Bs all

5250
03:02:01,140 --> 03:02:02,300
in a row.

5251
03:02:02,600 --> 03:02:03,640
Buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh,

5252
03:02:03,640 --> 03:02:03,840
buh, buh.

5253
03:02:04,500 --> 03:02:05,780
TurboScribe.ai, it worked.

5254
03:02:05,920 --> 03:02:06,680
It was very impressive.

5255
03:02:07,360 --> 03:02:07,720
Nice.

5256
03:02:08,080 --> 03:02:09,100
Okay, so I like that one.

5257
03:02:09,160 --> 03:02:10,820
Yeah, the last show, there was very distinctive

5258
03:02:10,820 --> 03:02:11,420
openings.

5259
03:02:11,860 --> 03:02:12,540
Yes, yes, it was.

5260
03:02:13,140 --> 03:02:14,200
Okay, now we go to beginning.

5261
03:02:14,640 --> 03:02:16,020
Can we go back to the beginning?

5262
03:02:17,300 --> 03:02:18,520
No, also pretty good.

5263
03:02:18,960 --> 03:02:20,000
And then go home.

5264
03:02:20,220 --> 03:02:21,080
Now go home.

5265
03:02:22,340 --> 03:02:24,220
I gotta say, I kind of liked, uh...

5266
03:02:24,220 --> 03:02:25,020
Bee, bee, bee, bee, bye-ee.

5267
03:02:25,180 --> 03:02:27,000
I think that one's funny.

5268
03:02:27,580 --> 03:02:28,240
All right, let's use it.

5269
03:02:28,280 --> 03:02:28,900
I think we should.

5270
03:02:29,000 --> 03:02:29,640
All right, everybody!

5271
03:02:29,800 --> 03:02:31,000
Now it is time for the best part

5272
03:02:31,000 --> 03:02:32,080
of the show, as some say, it is

5273
03:02:32,080 --> 03:02:33,260
John's Tip of the Day!

5274
03:02:37,700 --> 03:02:44,800
Well, it's the season, so I thought I'd

5275
03:02:44,800 --> 03:02:46,880
talk a little food talk today, and I'm

5276
03:02:46,880 --> 03:02:48,940
gonna discuss persimmons.

5277
03:02:49,760 --> 03:02:50,080
Persimmons?

5278
03:02:50,080 --> 03:02:52,880
Which are a highly misunderstood fruit.

5279
03:02:53,000 --> 03:02:53,700
It is a fruit.

5280
03:02:55,240 --> 03:02:56,680
There's two, and I want to tell people

5281
03:02:56,680 --> 03:03:00,080
about these things, they're, the fat, I say,

5282
03:03:00,300 --> 03:03:02,500
ten years, before ten years ago, I probably

5283
03:03:02,500 --> 03:03:03,580
never ate these things.

5284
03:03:04,700 --> 03:03:06,540
And then when I started eating them, I

5285
03:03:06,540 --> 03:03:08,540
only ate the hard type, and I never

5286
03:03:08,540 --> 03:03:10,320
ate the ones that you ripen.

5287
03:03:11,540 --> 03:03:12,700
Although you can ripen them both.

5288
03:03:12,860 --> 03:03:15,780
But there's two basic kinds of persimmons, this

5289
03:03:15,780 --> 03:03:17,640
is a little lecture on persimmons, and I

5290
03:03:17,640 --> 03:03:19,900
recommend them, but don't eat more than two,

5291
03:03:20,060 --> 03:03:20,360
ever.

5292
03:03:21,160 --> 03:03:22,980
What happens if you eat more than two?

5293
03:03:23,380 --> 03:03:25,140
They got so much kind of a screwball

5294
03:03:25,140 --> 03:03:28,180
fiber, and some sort of very beneficial fiber.

5295
03:03:28,300 --> 03:03:29,520
You'll be pooping for days?

5296
03:03:29,960 --> 03:03:31,520
No, they cause other issues.

5297
03:03:32,360 --> 03:03:35,500
It's recommended you eat maximum one a day,

5298
03:03:35,620 --> 03:03:36,800
but you can't eat two.

5299
03:03:38,560 --> 03:03:39,920
There's your tip right there.

5300
03:03:39,960 --> 03:03:40,960
There's the tip, yes.

5301
03:03:41,300 --> 03:03:42,860
You know, be careful with these things.

5302
03:03:43,140 --> 03:03:45,400
Because they're really, you could easily eat a

5303
03:03:45,400 --> 03:03:46,340
bushel of them.

5304
03:03:46,340 --> 03:03:48,360
And then you can't poop for days, is

5305
03:03:48,360 --> 03:03:48,820
what you're saying.

5306
03:03:48,840 --> 03:03:52,960
So there's two kinds, there's the Fuyu, there's

5307
03:03:52,960 --> 03:03:54,600
a million names, you can look it up

5308
03:03:54,600 --> 03:03:56,340
on wiki and see all the different names

5309
03:03:56,340 --> 03:03:58,300
from them, but there's basically two types.

5310
03:03:58,800 --> 03:04:00,140
And I'm just going to discuss these, and

5311
03:04:00,140 --> 03:04:03,820
they have various names, but they've got Japanese

5312
03:04:03,820 --> 03:04:04,640
names generally.

5313
03:04:05,320 --> 03:04:08,340
But there's a short squat one, that looks

5314
03:04:08,340 --> 03:04:11,880
like it's a short squat persimmon, they both

5315
03:04:11,880 --> 03:04:13,900
have the same coloring, they're orange.

5316
03:04:14,380 --> 03:04:16,860
A short squat one, and those you can

5317
03:04:16,860 --> 03:04:20,020
eat right away, they're like an apple, they're

5318
03:04:20,020 --> 03:04:22,400
crisp, you can slice them up, I usually

5319
03:04:22,400 --> 03:04:23,760
like to slice them up before I eat

5320
03:04:23,760 --> 03:04:24,720
them, you can eat them like an apple

5321
03:04:24,720 --> 03:04:25,640
if you want, but you have to be

5322
03:04:25,640 --> 03:04:27,360
careful because every once in a while a

5323
03:04:27,360 --> 03:04:30,380
seed forms inside, and if you bite that

5324
03:04:30,380 --> 03:04:32,100
seed, you're biting into a ball bearing.

5325
03:04:32,240 --> 03:04:34,180
These seeds are the hardest seeds I've ever

5326
03:04:34,180 --> 03:04:35,300
encountered in my life.

5327
03:04:36,380 --> 03:04:38,480
But generally speaking, there's no seeds in them.

5328
03:04:38,820 --> 03:04:39,720
The seeds develop.

5329
03:04:40,480 --> 03:04:43,020
And then there's the elongated ones, this looks

5330
03:04:43,020 --> 03:04:47,120
more like, I'd say, a classic eggplant shape,

5331
03:04:47,380 --> 03:04:50,660
or a bell pepper shape, it's bigger, and

5332
03:04:50,660 --> 03:04:51,600
it's got a different name.

5333
03:04:52,100 --> 03:04:53,780
And these, you can't eat raw.

5334
03:04:54,440 --> 03:04:54,660
No.

5335
03:04:55,360 --> 03:04:57,580
You have to let them, you eat them

5336
03:04:57,580 --> 03:04:59,280
raw anyway, so you can't eat them young,

5337
03:04:59,340 --> 03:05:00,400
you have to let them ripen.

5338
03:05:00,680 --> 03:05:02,660
And you have to let them ripen until

5339
03:05:02,660 --> 03:05:04,500
the point where it feels like a water

5340
03:05:04,500 --> 03:05:04,840
balloon.

5341
03:05:07,420 --> 03:05:08,300
Borderline rotting.

5342
03:05:09,640 --> 03:05:11,780
So it's super soft and mushy.

5343
03:05:11,780 --> 03:05:12,860
Now this is the one that took me

5344
03:05:12,860 --> 03:05:14,600
a while to get into because Mimi was

5345
03:05:14,600 --> 03:05:16,080
always a huge fan of these things.

5346
03:05:16,640 --> 03:05:19,060
And a few years ago, I finally developed

5347
03:05:19,060 --> 03:05:19,860
a taste for them.

5348
03:05:20,180 --> 03:05:21,380
These are the ones that are used in

5349
03:05:21,380 --> 03:05:24,140
persimmon pies and cupcakes, because it's a goo.

5350
03:05:24,520 --> 03:05:26,400
When they ripen up, they're very soft, you

5351
03:05:26,400 --> 03:05:29,400
can just kind of cut them open and

5352
03:05:29,400 --> 03:05:33,220
scoop out the goo with a spoon, it's

5353
03:05:33,220 --> 03:05:35,620
like a pudding inside, and it should be

5354
03:05:35,620 --> 03:05:36,580
completely gooey.

5355
03:05:37,380 --> 03:05:39,280
There should be no hard pieces in there.

5356
03:05:39,920 --> 03:05:43,160
And it's, I have to say over time,

5357
03:05:43,260 --> 03:05:45,100
even though I like the crunchy ones, these

5358
03:05:45,100 --> 03:05:50,160
elongated ones that ripen up and become gooey

5359
03:05:50,160 --> 03:05:53,220
and soft are unbelievably delicious.

5360
03:05:54,340 --> 03:05:54,780
Wow.

5361
03:05:54,940 --> 03:05:57,480
And people don't, you know, they either don't

5362
03:05:57,480 --> 03:06:00,040
let them ripen to the point, they're super

5363
03:06:00,040 --> 03:06:02,080
gooey when they're soft and mushy.

5364
03:06:02,960 --> 03:06:05,020
Sometimes they have to be triggered to ripen,

5365
03:06:05,120 --> 03:06:06,280
which means you put them in the refrigerator

5366
03:06:06,280 --> 03:06:07,780
for a day or two, there's something about

5367
03:06:07,780 --> 03:06:09,700
persimmons that's an end of season fruit.

5368
03:06:10,260 --> 03:06:12,440
Right now they're showing up in the stores.

5369
03:06:14,360 --> 03:06:17,100
But I would recommend people look into eating

5370
03:06:17,100 --> 03:06:17,460
these things.

5371
03:06:17,540 --> 03:06:20,220
These things are just a fabulous product that

5372
03:06:20,220 --> 03:06:23,280
are ignored by most Westerners and people that

5373
03:06:23,280 --> 03:06:24,400
probably listen to this show.

5374
03:06:24,500 --> 03:06:27,400
If anyone has any doubt that this is

5375
03:06:27,400 --> 03:06:29,600
the best podcast in the universe, you can

5376
03:06:29,600 --> 03:06:31,680
send them right to the chapter marker for

5377
03:06:31,680 --> 03:06:32,780
John's tip of the day.

5378
03:06:33,080 --> 03:06:35,560
Who else will tell you to eat the

5379
03:06:35,560 --> 03:06:36,380
gooey persimmon?

5380
03:06:36,860 --> 03:06:39,220
I defy anybody to find a podcast that

5381
03:06:39,220 --> 03:06:41,060
has this kind of information.

5382
03:06:41,780 --> 03:06:42,380
Yes.

5383
03:06:43,240 --> 03:06:44,240
There it is.

5384
03:06:44,340 --> 03:06:46,380
Once again, go to tipoftheday.net.

5385
03:06:51,980 --> 03:06:52,580
Wow.

5386
03:06:55,940 --> 03:06:58,580
I can't wait to grab me some persimmons.

5387
03:06:59,600 --> 03:07:02,220
Maybe even still go to HEB before I

5388
03:07:02,220 --> 03:07:04,300
don't know if they have persimmons here in

5389
03:07:04,300 --> 03:07:04,520
Texas.

5390
03:07:04,520 --> 03:07:06,620
It takes a couple of weeks to ripen

5391
03:07:06,620 --> 03:07:07,940
one of those so it gets gooey.

5392
03:07:08,260 --> 03:07:08,580
Oh, okay.

5393
03:07:08,800 --> 03:07:09,440
I've got to work on it.

5394
03:07:09,440 --> 03:07:10,280
Just know that.

5395
03:07:10,340 --> 03:07:10,960
You have to wait.

5396
03:07:11,640 --> 03:07:12,500
I'm excited.

5397
03:07:12,660 --> 03:07:15,040
I'm excited for the new persimmon in my

5398
03:07:15,040 --> 03:07:15,440
life.

5399
03:07:16,400 --> 03:07:16,940
It's beautiful.

5400
03:07:18,160 --> 03:07:20,640
Well, that does it for today's episode, your

5401
03:07:20,640 --> 03:07:22,720
post-Thanksgiving media deconstruction.

5402
03:07:22,780 --> 03:07:23,620
We're happy to do it.

5403
03:07:23,660 --> 03:07:25,440
We do it as a service, and this

5404
03:07:25,440 --> 03:07:27,860
value is open and available at no charge.

5405
03:07:27,900 --> 03:07:31,360
However, we do suggest that you send some

5406
03:07:31,360 --> 03:07:32,080
value back.

5407
03:07:32,260 --> 03:07:33,420
Time, talent, and treasure.

5408
03:07:33,560 --> 03:07:36,180
Go to noagendathedonations.com for more information.

5409
03:07:36,600 --> 03:07:37,600
End of show makes it.

5410
03:07:37,620 --> 03:07:39,100
We've got Sir Strokey.

5411
03:07:39,600 --> 03:07:40,540
Sir Strokey.

5412
03:07:41,200 --> 03:07:42,940
With a little Christmas ditty he whipped up

5413
03:07:42,940 --> 03:07:43,420
in the kitchen.

5414
03:07:43,540 --> 03:07:46,700
We have Sir Chris Wilson and Jesse Coy

5415
03:07:46,700 --> 03:07:47,000
Nelson.

5416
03:07:47,160 --> 03:07:48,220
Doesn't get much better than that.

5417
03:07:48,780 --> 03:07:50,500
Coming up on the live stream, it actually

5418
03:07:50,500 --> 03:07:51,440
will be live.

5419
03:07:51,580 --> 03:07:53,960
Homegrown Hits with Dame DeLorean and Mary Kate

5420
03:07:53,960 --> 03:07:54,280
Ultra.

5421
03:07:54,440 --> 03:07:55,980
They are going to be jamming the tunes

5422
03:07:55,980 --> 03:07:57,640
for you, all value for value.

5423
03:07:57,640 --> 03:07:59,680
I am coming to you from the heart

5424
03:07:59,680 --> 03:08:02,260
of the Texas Hill Country, where the Christmas

5425
03:08:02,260 --> 03:08:04,100
tree is lit in Fredericksburg.

5426
03:08:04,520 --> 03:08:05,460
In the morning, everybody.

5427
03:08:05,680 --> 03:08:06,460
I'm Adam Curry.

5428
03:08:06,620 --> 03:08:09,100
And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm

5429
03:08:09,100 --> 03:08:10,700
actually going to watch a football game in

5430
03:08:10,700 --> 03:08:12,560
the snow tonight when it finally shows up

5431
03:08:12,560 --> 03:08:13,800
on Sunday Night Football.

5432
03:08:13,980 --> 03:08:14,400
I'm John C.

5433
03:08:14,440 --> 03:08:14,640
DuBois.

5434
03:08:14,760 --> 03:08:17,020
We return on Thursday with more.

5435
03:08:17,320 --> 03:08:19,340
Remember us, noagendathedonations.com.

5436
03:08:19,380 --> 03:08:21,960
Until then, adios, mofos, hui hui, and such!

5437
03:08:22,040 --> 03:08:22,820
But we want it.

5438
03:08:23,240 --> 03:08:23,960
We, for Christmas.

5439
03:08:24,360 --> 03:08:26,640
Everybody, y'all want something so bad, you

5440
03:08:26,640 --> 03:08:28,220
wish Santa would just give it to you.

5441
03:08:28,340 --> 03:08:31,320
It's me, Strokey, the Rainmaker Supreme, seeing how

5442
03:08:31,320 --> 03:08:32,440
you're being on your birthday.

5443
03:08:33,920 --> 03:08:35,660
We're jumping off the floor and we'll give

5444
03:08:35,660 --> 03:08:36,360
you something more.

5445
03:08:36,480 --> 03:08:38,180
Billy Beckett, get a threat, click select and

5446
03:08:38,180 --> 03:08:38,900
now click begin.

5447
03:08:39,040 --> 03:08:41,120
Party on, party people, let's hear some more.

5448
03:08:41,400 --> 03:08:43,100
Billy's in the house, so jump, jump for

5449
03:08:43,100 --> 03:08:43,420
more.

5450
03:08:43,500 --> 03:08:45,660
It's a party smarty, so let's get retarded.

5451
03:08:45,780 --> 03:08:47,260
Wave your hands in the air and put

5452
03:08:47,260 --> 03:08:48,080
on your beachwear.

5453
03:08:48,240 --> 03:08:49,820
Then all of a sudden, you see something

5454
03:08:49,820 --> 03:08:50,340
you like.

5455
03:08:50,540 --> 03:08:52,300
You love it, you want it for Christmas.

5456
03:08:52,620 --> 03:08:55,140
You love it, you want it for Christmas.

5457
03:08:55,260 --> 03:08:57,460
You love it, you want it for Christmas.

5458
03:08:57,600 --> 03:08:59,800
You love it, you want it for Christmas.

5459
03:08:59,960 --> 03:09:02,140
You love it, you want it for Christmas.

5460
03:09:02,340 --> 03:09:04,540
So reverse the verse and get perverse.

5461
03:09:04,800 --> 03:09:06,380
Blow a snot bubble in the back of

5462
03:09:06,380 --> 03:09:06,920
a hearse.

5463
03:09:07,180 --> 03:09:08,720
Got the best sausage, you can call me

5464
03:09:08,720 --> 03:09:09,220
the worst.

5465
03:09:09,520 --> 03:09:11,720
I'm so gifted, you know I'm probably cursed.

5466
03:09:12,060 --> 03:09:13,600
My rhyme is so tiny and grimy.

5467
03:09:13,700 --> 03:09:15,800
Sometimes a little bit slimy, it comes from

5468
03:09:15,800 --> 03:09:16,580
inside of me.

5469
03:09:16,800 --> 03:09:18,960
You want the test, you get the litmus.

5470
03:09:19,080 --> 03:09:20,520
You love it, you want it for Christmas.

5471
03:09:20,620 --> 03:09:20,800
Okay.

5472
03:09:21,040 --> 03:09:59,980
You love it, Oh

5473
03:09:59,980 --> 03:10:05,940
Antifa, oh Antifa It's time to punch some

5474
03:10:05,940 --> 03:10:12,440
Nazis Oh Antifa, oh Antifa It's time to

5475
03:10:12,440 --> 03:10:17,860
punch some Nazis If you let Marlow into

5476
03:10:17,860 --> 03:10:23,200
town We're gonna burn your campus down Oh

5477
03:10:23,200 --> 03:10:28,740
Antifa, oh Antifa It's time to punch some

5478
03:10:28,740 --> 03:10:37,960
Nazis Oh

5479
03:10:37,960 --> 03:10:43,900
Antifa, oh Antifa It's time to beat the

5480
03:10:43,900 --> 03:10:50,340
fascists Oh Antifa, oh Antifa It's time to

5481
03:10:50,340 --> 03:10:55,320
beat the fascists We'll team up with the

5482
03:10:55,320 --> 03:11:02,940
BLM And cause endless destruction Oh Antifa, oh

5483
03:11:02,940 --> 03:11:17,720
Antifa It's time to beat the fascists Don't

5484
03:11:17,720 --> 03:11:26,480
trust China, China is asshole China wants Christmas

5485
03:11:26,480 --> 03:11:31,520
The United States The United States China is

5486
03:11:31,520 --> 03:11:37,060
asshole China wants Christmas The United States The

5487
03:11:37,060 --> 03:11:39,360
United States, The United States, The United States,

5488
03:11:39,360 --> 03:11:42,200
The United States Why would I be talking

5489
03:11:42,200 --> 03:11:43,360
about Winnie the Pooh so much?

5490
03:11:43,360 --> 03:11:45,660
Winnie the Pooh is constantly being banned in

5491
03:11:45,660 --> 03:11:48,420
China, and that's because the leader, Xi Jinping,

5492
03:11:49,180 --> 03:11:51,940
is very sensitive, and he doesn't like the

5493
03:11:51,940 --> 03:11:53,900
fact that people compare him to Winnie the

5494
03:11:53,900 --> 03:11:54,120
Pooh.

5495
03:11:54,340 --> 03:11:55,600
China is asshole!

5496
03:11:57,000 --> 03:11:57,900
China, why?

5497
03:11:57,960 --> 03:11:58,500
For Christmas.

5498
03:11:58,900 --> 03:12:00,000
The United States.

5499
03:12:01,000 --> 03:12:02,140
The United States.

5500
03:12:02,740 --> 03:12:03,900
China is asshole!

5501
03:12:05,120 --> 03:12:06,000
China, why?

5502
03:12:06,080 --> 03:12:06,640
For Christmas.

5503
03:12:12,980 --> 03:12:14,720
Don't trust China!

5504
03:12:15,000 --> 03:12:16,020
China is asshole!

5505
03:12:17,120 --> 03:12:18,620
Don't trust China!

5506
03:12:19,020 --> 03:12:20,080
China is asshole!