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Adam Curry: Return to return of
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Dvorak, it's Thursday, September

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Unknown: 26 2024

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Adam Curry: this is your award
winning Cuba nation. Media

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assassination Episode 1698,

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Unknown: this is no agenda

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Adam Curry: going into founders
mode and broadcasting live from

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the heart of the Texas hill
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number six in the morning.
Everybody. I'm Adam curry from

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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley, where we all say hello

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to Eric Adams, the mayor of New
York City. I'm John C Dvorak,

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buzzkill

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Adam Curry: man. Friends of mine
in New York are like our God is

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good. They are really loving the
Eric Adams saga.

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John C Dvorak: Unbelievable,
yes, but what is it?

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Adam Curry: Oh, well, it's
completely not known. That's the

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beauty of it. It's like, no,
what? No, H, no, of course not.

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We don't it's like, all that's
ever mentioned is, well, yeah,

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some, some donation money from
Turkey. Turkey actually, on one

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of the clips, I didn't clip it,
but they flashed up countries

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that had somehow participated in
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they had five flags, China,
Turkey, Israel. How was this?

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There's two more, but, but that
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about at all. I mean, there's so
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Hold on a second. Let me I have,
I have a couple of short clips

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about it breaking we

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Unknown: begin with breaking
news this evening and the

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political earthquake that is
roughly New York City. Sources

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telling CNN that Mayor Eric and
at least one federal, federal

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criminal charge the indictment
is now under seal, so the nature

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of the charges is unclear as we
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do know that Mayor Adams has
been the center of a corruption

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investigation for months. The
feds have been looking into

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possible campaign fundraising
violations and foreign

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influence. Adams, the former cop
turned Democratic mayor, has

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previously denied any wrongdoing
and remains defiant. Tonight,

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I will fight these injustices
with every ounce of my strength

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and my spirit. If I'm charged, I
know I am innocent.

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Adam Curry: I love this
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know I'm innocent. I

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John C Dvorak: don't know what
it's about, but I'm innocent,

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Unknown: requesting immediate
trials so the New Yorkers can

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hear the truth. The

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mayor's administration has been
played with resignations as of

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late, which has led to a steady
call for him to step down, even

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before this has happened, calls
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tonight, of course, with Adams
now becoming the first sitting

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New York City Mayor to face
criminal federal charges, not

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Adam Curry: just federal, but
federal. Federal charges this,

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there's something much bigger
going on. I mean, it just seems

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so obvious. And it was only a
few days ago when they went to

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arrest a former prosecutor and
judge in Orange County New York.

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They showed up, the the troopers
showed up, and the guy kills

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himself. I mean, the only time
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show up is if you're involved in
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always, always the case, and it
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nut, which kudos to Crowder. Oh,
there's a title for you. Kudos

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to Crowder, kudos

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John C Dvorak: to title. Kudos
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Unknown: Crowder. Nobody can
forget when covid left 1000s of

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New Yorkers dead and also forced
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and prompted mask mandates,
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vaccination mandates. Those
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senior health advisor, Dr Jay
Varma, even the most rare events

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that's him at City Hall three
years ago, the same place where

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dozens of teachers,
firefighters, EMTs and other

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city workers who lost their jobs
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for other covid protocol
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midday. I

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could care less what he does,

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Douche: but he affected my
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living. Dr

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Unknown: Jay Varma said he had
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sex parties, which I don't care
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his authentic self. What about
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Undercover video of Varma,
released last week by the

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conservative website, louder
with Crowder, in which Varma

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said that while the rest of the
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distance, mask up and get
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parties and other gatherings
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Dr Varma in yes for an oversight
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hold. Hold him accountable.
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did not respond to our request
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public statement after the video
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was targeted by an operative for
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organization determined to
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for not using the best judgment
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Adam Curry: help but think this
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can't help it. I mean, I was
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John C Dvorak: because you have
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there it is. We're

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Adam Curry: 1111 Thank you.
Finally, yeah, we're even Steven

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11 right at the top of the show,
yes, W word. There's

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John C Dvorak: some degree about
this and the this guy, who's the

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obvious creep, the

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Adam Curry: Varma, yeah,

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Unknown: Varma. Var Varma,
Varma, Varma. Oh, racist.

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John C Dvorak: What I think is
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who report this, they all say,
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thing to have a sex it's not
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then they go on and on, but in a
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but in a basement for a health
department official will be

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screwing aimlessly, you know, in
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like a health department guy. If
you know these guys, they're

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freaked out about everything you
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Adam Curry: got m pox. Now this,
this feels like cleanup, and

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everybody in New York knows that
all Eric Adams does is swagger,

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swagger in the club. Where's

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John C Dvorak: our guy? Which
guy Barb? Eric Adams

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impersonator? Oh,

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Adam Curry: wow, that's a good
point. Bart guy should be all

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over this. Maybe he quit.

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John C Dvorak: I think he's the
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Adam Curry: it was actually Eric
Adams. He can't do that anymore

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because he's going Mark Anthony.
He's going to the slammer. This

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is no and the fact that then no
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charges, which I guess, are
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John C Dvorak: How can you focus
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them to you exactly so,

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Adam Curry: but it seems
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is just getting everybody this
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his lawyer. This is a non info
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everybody who's who somehow
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surrounding the New York Mayor.
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Unknown: just some of the faces
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home searched or their phone
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part of multiple federal
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closely connected to Mayor Eric
Adams, from his police

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commissioner Edward Caban, who
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appointed as head of schools,
David Banks, who announced his

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retirement to Banks's domestic
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mayor, Sheena Wright,

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Adam Curry: by the way, that
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I mean, I don't want to be one
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differences, but kind of weird.
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of control. Todd 12 for me, 11
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the score. Don't worry, you'll
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Unknown: Mayor Adams former had
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They're all part of at least
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federal inquiries,

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Adam Curry: you say, but

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Unknown: related, and Mayor
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fundraising, Brianna sucks.

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Adam Curry: First of all,
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John C Dvorak: What is this? A
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Unknown: Right? And Mayor Adams,
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Brianna Suggs, they're all part
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related, federal inquiries. But
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Adam Curry: I mean, it's

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Unknown: the first started back
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Adam Curry: I think it's S, U,
double, G, s, yes, but sounds

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Unknown: We're chief of
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Attorney aren't releasing any
information about the

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investigations, but sources say
look into whether improper

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campaign donations were made to
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Adam Curry: really, that's what
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John C Dvorak: I mean, they're
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about child sex New York,

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Adam Curry: of course, they're
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pressure. Well,

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John C Dvorak: let's, let's back
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mayor may decided to go after
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sending all these migrants,
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Adam Curry: when this started.
That's when this and they said,

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Oh yeah, hold my beer. Hold my
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We're gonna it's the season of
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John C Dvorak: board. Let me
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little trick. There's a quarter
behind your ear. Yeah, watch

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Unknown: whether he received
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or government officials in other
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Adam Curry: Well, that's, that's
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know that that was in 20 was it
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trick. Is credit cards from
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John C Dvorak: what Harris is
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Adam Curry: So maybe they have
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everyone to cooperate in the
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accusations involve using
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work with the city and other
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brother of former police
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under investigation for possibly
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to get work providing security
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resigned calling the
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involves the three banks
brothers, the banks, banks. I

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Adam Curry: mean, this sounds
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brothers. A third probe for the
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Unknown: involves the three
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the youngest brother of David
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consulting firm to connect
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officials. Public Record show

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Adam Curry: what, what a great
gig that is a consulting firm to

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connect what public

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Unknown: record show some of
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millions of brother David and
Philip launched a consulting

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firm to connect businesses to
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Adam Curry: That's a great
business. Yes, what

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John C Dvorak: Hunter Biden did?
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Unknown: public record show some
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millions of dollars in city
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meeting with his brother, the
school's Chancellor, plus Philip

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banks, Deputy Mayor for public
safety, used to own a security

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company, a company which, after
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multimillion dollar housing
contract. Nice Phillips, his

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brother's domestic partner the
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Adam Curry: so his domestic
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Unknown: on the board that
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David and Terence have said
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investigation, and an attorney
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client has zero criminal
liability. Meanwhile, other

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leaders who do not appear to be
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have since announced their
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health commissioner and the top
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City Hall Chief Counsel, Lisa
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saying she can no longer
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Adam Curry: like the black
Sopranos. This is so

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John C Dvorak: back to the
thesis that this is all stemming

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from his rebuke of the Biden
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to New York City to the like 10x
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if you listen to his plea, the
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where he says he says, They're
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which is exactly what he did
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administration for sending all
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migrants into New York City
where and said, Here you you

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pick it, you pick up the tab.
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Adam Curry: so, you know, the
elections are not that far away.

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He could, he could ride it out
or and even having AOC call for

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him to resign. But if he
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the way, Kathy Hochul the
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the she, I'm reading it here.
She has the ability to remove

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the mayor from office. But the
governor's power to replace

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these mayors never been used.
Okay? It's never been used

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before. Does have the the option
and the person, if he resigns,

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then the public advocate becomes
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Unknown: Who's this? Some

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Adam Curry: person named
Williams. Don't know who it is,

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but, I mean, you know, New York
has always been corrupt, but how

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disappointing with this former
cop, it's, you know, I had kind

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of high hopes for him in the
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John C Dvorak: yeah, until we
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his silly voice.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, that was
unfortunate. Didn't really have

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you need a voice. He had

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John C Dvorak: a more serious
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Adam Curry: Well, it might as
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out of the way while we're at
it, because just so much seems

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related to ditty parties and to
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politics, it's all intertwined.
So now you got me watching TMZ

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Unknown: this video is now
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Conan O'Brien, and they start
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party the best party possible.
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everything you need for the.
Perfect party. Women,

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beautiful women, you

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need some water. We need
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Goes up a nice little sweat.
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compared to this next part,

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locks on the doors.

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Caleb's sounding kind of
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you have no idea. Oh, what?

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He didn't crack a smile. He did
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Douche: And that's not the only
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years ago. Ellen asked him about
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Unknown: from like 930 to like,
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and then it will carry on there?
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no, I know about them. You can
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then there are a lot of people
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nervous because all these things
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he videotaped, and there are a
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that tape? Yeah,

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Adam Curry: there's bodyguards
coming out talking about stuff

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they've seen. There's just so
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if you're TMZ, yeah.

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John C Dvorak: TMZ, I think's a
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since I, well, I ever since we
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that Beyonce was going to be at
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Convention good authority, that
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they knew it. Yeah, so TMZ is
doing everything on TMZ is is

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politically motivated in some
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Adam Curry: Well, we still have
just so much unresolved noise

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about I mean, even Pizzagate is
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Unknown: and not, I'm sorry, why
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Adam Curry: well, exactly. And
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we have this Ryan Wesley, Ruth,
guy who's pointing his his gun

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through the bushes, and then
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Unknown: son of the suspect in
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of Donald Trump, now facing
serious charges of his own. Oren

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Ralph is under arrest on child
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took him into custody this week
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Authorities say they found

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hundreds of files of child
sexual abuse images. According

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to the FBI, the arrest has
nothing to do with Ryan Ralph is

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alleged assassination in Florida
earlier this month. You

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Adam Curry: see the picture of
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John C Dvorak: No, I missed

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Adam Curry: this. He looks like
creep. Yeah, he looks like a

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hysterical, I hate to say it
Democrat. Just really, well,

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John C Dvorak: probably an
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don't know why you hate to say
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Adam Curry: well, because, I
mean, because not all Democrats

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sound bigoted,

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John C Dvorak: yeah, well,

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Adam Curry: there you go. What's

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John C Dvorak: his name? What's
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Adam Curry: His name is. What's
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it's in here,

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Unknown: the son of the suspect
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attempt of Donald Trump, now
facing serious charges of his

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own. Oren Ralph Oren,

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Adam Curry: or nothing,

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John C Dvorak: Who names their
kid. Or, I

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Adam Curry: think it's O, R, a
n, for some reason. Or in Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: is it r o u t h,
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Adam Curry: think it was, yes, r
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John C Dvorak: the

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Adam Curry: you see a picture of
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John C Dvorak: looking looking
man. And I think the reason

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there he is, oh, my God. I like
the picture. The cocked head at

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his mug shot.

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Adam Curry: I think the reason
why I think he looks like a

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hysterical Democrat is because
he looks a lot like that Austin

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comedian who plays a hysterical
Democrat with a long hair, kind

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of reddish hair. What's his
name? Guys. Guy's pretty funny.

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He's been around for years.
Can't remember his name? No,

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John C Dvorak: the patrol room
can, yeah, yeah, that's what

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they're there for, yeah,

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Adam Curry: well, they're not on
the ball today. Yeah, they're

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not, no, they're just not on the
ball. No, not, no, no. Anyway,

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it just feels like everything is
somehow related. It's the great

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reveal. It's the season of
reveal, not the great reveal,

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it's the season of

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John C Dvorak: reveal. Yeah, I
got a clip to pick a related

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clip, okay, which will lead me
into a presentation. Ah, all

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right, thanks for queuing me up.
This is Trudeau on the Colbert

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show.

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Unknown: This is great.

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Great meeting you. It must be
nice being in front of a dumb

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American audience who applaud
you because they have no idea

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how hate and incompetent you
actually are. So welcome to

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America. Glad to be here, glad

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to be now.

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So do all Canadians hate you?
Yes, they do.

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Might be part of why I'm here is

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that because you literally shut
down people's bank accounts. In

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2022 like a dictator might

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well. As many know, my real
father is Fidel Castro, one of

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the greatest authoritarians,
okay? And

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Adam Curry: hopefully you know
that I realize this is AI

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John C Dvorak: clearly, well, I
would hope so, by the

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Adam Curry: way, JP Sears is the
comedian 20th

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Unknown: century.

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I don't think so. No,

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it's true. You see, my father
was the Prime Minister during

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the 1970s and my mom wasn't a
huge fan of his, similar to how

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all Canadians hate me, so she
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She would hang out at Studio 54
here in New York City. She

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banged Mick Jagger famously, and
shortly before I was born, she

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snuck down to Havana to get
smashed by my biological father,

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Fidel,

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Adam Curry: this podcast is now
illegal in the state of

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California, and

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Unknown: then I was born nine
months later. Just look at a

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side by side photo of me and
Fidel Castro, the resemblance is

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uncanny. That's where I think I
get my authoritarian nature from

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that actually

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makes a lot of sense. Comedian
Shane Gillis just performed in

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Toronto last week, and while
doing an impersonation of drum,

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he called you the F slur that is
generally reserved for

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homosexuals, but truly is more
appropriate for someone like

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you, and received a lengthy
applause break.

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I mean, people in Canada really
hate me. I'd be surprised if my

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approval rating was over 20% at
this point. So

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what's next for you? There's an
election in Canada coming up

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next year, right? They're

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trying to call one sooner. As
again, people really hate me

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from coast to coast. My plan is
to delay until next year and

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then get absolutely smoked in
the election, and then focus on

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my true passion of doing various
types of brown and black face. I

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really want to explore the
medium dictator.

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Justin Trudeau, everyone will be
right back after the break with

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the guy that sold Diddy all his
baby oil.

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Adam Curry: Okay, all right,
what was the point? I was okay.

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Wasn't the best. It was okay.

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John C Dvorak: Trudeau, I think
is good. I don't think the

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Colbert voices is good, but the
voice that's out there that I

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think is the is the one we're
going to hear a lot of because

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of Newsom, is the AI Newsom
voice. And every show I'm trying

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to keep bringing these up
because I know they're illegal,

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Adam Curry: and you're in your
state, in your state only,

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they're okay in Texas.

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John C Dvorak: Well, we're going
to play this for Texas audience.

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If you're in California, please
do not listen. Do

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Adam Curry: not listen. No,
you're you're not allowed to

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listen in California. Yeah.
Okay, so what are we playing

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John C Dvorak: A i Newsom. Okay,

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Unknown: hi, I'm Gavin Newsom,
and I'm definitely not gay. A

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lot of people are criticizing me
for banning AI generated

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political videos. So let me
explain. The problem is that

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Democrats, like me, we're not
the brightest bulbs in the

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tanning bed. We can't always
distinguish between reality and

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fiction. When Elon Musk posted
Mr. Reagan's Bernie Kamala

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Harris parody video, I thought
that was real. And so I

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realized, without laws governing
what we are allowed to see and

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hear. How will we ever know
what's really true if I don't

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ban Mr. Reagan's AI parody
videos? How would we ever know

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that Trump will be a dictator on
day one, that if he doesn't win,

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he's promised a bloodbath? How
would we know that Hunter

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Biden's laptop was Russian
disinformation? Also, I'm

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definitely not gay. Also, how
would we know that inflation is

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transitory and that the border
is secure? How would we know

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that covid came from bat soup
and Trump told everyone to

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inject bleach. How would we know
that boys can be girls and girls

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can be boys, and there's no such
thing as gender. How would we

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know that Trump is controlled by
Vladimir Putin? Also, I'm super

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not gay. Also, how would we know
that Trump totally assaulted

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Eugene Carroll in a burger of
Goodman dressing room? How would

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we know the 2020 election was
totally legitimate with zero

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fraud? How would we know that
January 6 was an armed

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insurrection where many police
officer police officers lost

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their lives. How would we know
that the covid vaccines had zero

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side effects and that masks were
100% effective? How would we

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know Kamala brilliantly invented
her very own original idea no

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tax on tips, or that I'm totally
not gay, and eliminate

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taxes on tips for service and
hospitality

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workers. How would we know that
Trump wrote project 2025, or

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that Trump staged both of his
assassination attempts? And how

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would we know that Trump is
literally Hitler? Reincarnation

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is definitely a thing. Hitler
died in 1945 Trump was born in

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1946 coincidence, I think not.
How would we know that all of

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that is true if we don't ban Mr.
Reagan's AI parody videos? How

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would we know that we should all
drink the Kool Aid? We won't

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know because Mr. Reagan's AI
parody videos are a threat to

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our democracy. They spread
dangerous disinformation, unlike

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all of the super true stuff that
we Democrats tell you, and also,

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most importantly, I'm definitely
not gay.

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Okay, I'm

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Adam Curry: trying to figure out
where your presentation is

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going,

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John C Dvorak: but where it's
going is what you did last show,

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which is leading me to the
notebook. Lm, oh, God,

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Adam Curry: oh, man, all four
minutes and 55 seconds of it.

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John C Dvorak: No, you're just
gonna play the beginning. Okay,

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that's not what you're playing.
Okay, here's what I fed it, and

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I want you to. At a time where
I'm going to read what I fed it

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before we play it. Do you get
get a timer going in I'm going

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to read you should run around.

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Adam Curry: You mean it's like a
stopwatch timer? Yeah, okay.

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Hold on a second. Let me get the
stopwatch and go

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John C Dvorak: a discussion of
political ideology by Seymour

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butts, Professor of ideology,
University of California, in the

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up and coming election, we have
two diverse candidates, Donald

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Trump, the notorious Republican,
and Kamala Harris, the notorious

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Democrat. Trump lies a lot about
everything. Harris lies a lot

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about everything. Both
candidates want your vote. End

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of in depth analysis, 21

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Adam Curry: seconds.

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John C Dvorak: 21 seconds is
what I got. Okay, so I gave it

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this. 21 second

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Adam Curry: you read this, or
you gave it, you gave it the

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written text, the text, yes, and
that was the exact text. You

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gave it

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John C Dvorak: the exact text.
Okay, now that text, which I

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read in 21 seconds. Now, what is
the total length of the clip it

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gave me back when I asked for
it, four minutes and 55 seconds.

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Now, how does that work? You
think, Well, it's

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Adam Curry: a deep dive.

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John C Dvorak: So this is, no,
this is supposed to be a note

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taking piece of software. So
it's supposed to summarize what

494
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I just said, Yeah, and I just,
we just read it. It's 21 seconds

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worth of pretty much nonsense.
Yes, it's just neutral. Yeah,

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Trump and Harris were presented
exactly the same way by Seymour

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butts. Okay, so I put it into
and by the way, I'm going to put

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this together as a sub stack
column, but probably come out

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Monday. Oh, I can't

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Adam Curry: wait to put that in
a notebook, LM and make a

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podcast out of it.

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John C Dvorak: It'll probably
be, for me, this ridiculous

503
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nonsense. For one thing, they
stretch the little that I said

504
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here, very little, and then they
start adding their own material.

505
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You can cut this off around the
two minute mark, when they

506
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started adding they start just
making stuff up.

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Adam Curry: Welcome back to the
sorry, wait. I was that my

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timing was perfect.

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John C Dvorak: This, this, yeah,
this is, this is a disgusting

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display of the of the slanted
nature of Google at this point

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in history.

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Adam Curry: What Google? Fact,
there's gambling. Oh no. Welcome

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Bag: back to the deep dive.
Ready to dive into something

514
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timely we're tackling this
upcoming election, and wow, the

515
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sources you sent in, they really
paint a picture, you know,

516
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especially when it comes to,
well, honesty in politics, it's

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Douche: definitely a hot topic.
Yeah,

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Bag: Trump versus Harris round
two, right? We've got Professor

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Seymour butts analysis, and he
doesn't hold back. That's

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putting it mildly, right? And I
have to say, I kind of love that

521
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about him. You know, the

522
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Douche: his directness, exactly

523
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Bag: like right off the bat, he
calls both Trump and Harris

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notorious, not exactly glowing
praise, right? I

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Douche: think that's
intentional. He's framing the

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entire conversation right from
the beginning. He's telling us,

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we're dealing with two figures
who shall we say, have a

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reputation. And

529
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Bag: then he just comes right
out and says it, they both lie

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like a lot he does,

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Douche: and it's almost jarring,
as jarring in a world of

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political spin, where everyone's
trying to be so careful with

533
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their words, but just cuts
through the BS, which

534
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Bag: honestly is kind of
refreshing, like we all know

535
00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:32,780
what happens this whole truth
stretching thing in politics,

536
00:28:32,780 --> 00:28:35,060
yeah, but to see someone
actually call it out, it's

537
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almost

538
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Douche: cathartic, like he's
giving us permission to be

539
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skeptical, to question what
we're being told exactly.

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Bag: But here's the thing,
skepticism is one thing, but it

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can't just lead to apathy,
right? Like, yeah, politicians

542
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lie whatever. I'm not voting.
That doesn't help

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Douche: anything. Absolutely.
And butts addresses that head

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on. He argues that this
skepticism, this awareness of

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how often politicians bend the
truth, it should actually make

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us more engaged, not less. So

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Bag: it's like he's saying,
don't be a cynic, be a critical

548
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thinker,

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Douche: because when we're aware
of the potential for

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manipulation, we're less likely
to fall for it. We start to look

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deeper, do our own research, and
demand better from our leaders.

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Never

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Bag: mentioned so important,
especially given all the

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strategies, let's call them,
that politicians use, Oh,

555
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absolutely.

556
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Douche: Was you said over that
study on common campaign

557
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tactics, cherry picking data?
It's fascinating. What

558
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Adam Curry: did they actually
say? Butts stretched? It? Did

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they say that? Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: they did. But
yeah, yeah. So this is what I

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suspect that I got see more
butts in there. That's good,

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Adam Curry: that's good. That

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John C Dvorak: was good. I have
to give my pat myself on the

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back for that. But they go on
and on and on and they bring up

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the dog whistle comes up next.
Never mentioned. None of this

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was ever mentioned. They are
making it up as they go along.

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And this is supposed to be a a
summary. If you look at the

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notebook, LM, it's supposed to
be a notebook. You're supposed

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to be able to, you know, it's
supposed to help you with the

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organizing your notes. This is
not nothing. I here's the notes

571
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I gave you 21 seconds, and they
come up with all this stuff

572
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about dog whistles and what
Harris's background is like the

573
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whole thing. It is complete,
fabrication. These are not my

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notes. We

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Adam Curry: will have the full
five minutes in the show notes

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at no agenda show.net Well, yes,
this is the AI is obviously pre

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prompted just when I tried to
get some answers out of it about

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model collapse and entropy. And
it said, Well, according to some

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other sources, I pulled him that
you didn't supply me. No, that's

580
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not what you're supposed to do.
You're supposed to only use

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those sources that I gave you.
But I have new thoughts on on

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AI. I'm actually quite happy you
did this. I I want everyone to

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be doing as much AI as possible.
I want to flood the internet.

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Especially artists are already
doing it. Yes, especially social

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networks, Reddit, as much AI
generated, text, images, video.

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We need to put as much out there
while, while the companies are

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trying to catch up.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're,
you're, you're basically

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advocating for a poison pill.
Yes,

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Adam Curry: I want to, well,
it's called a slop. It's called

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AI slop. I want to flood the
models. I want to collapse the

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models. And the great side
result of this will be these AI

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companies going broke, trying to
sustain their models because

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they need more power, more
energy, more CPUs, by the way.

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It's not coincidental that you
know the first real so called AI

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things that we see are images
and videos, because it comes

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from a chip developed by a
company that developed images

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and video, yeah, that developed
graphic processors for for video

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and images for video games. So
more slop more of the time I

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heard on CNBC. I couldn't catch
it for a clip, anthropic, one of

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the AI companies. Guess what
their cost is per API call to

602
00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:28,760
one of their large language
models, I have no idea, 35

603
00:32:29,180 --> 00:32:36,320
cents. 35 cents for each API
call you're making. They are

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running so fast trying to come
up with the golden goose, or

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whatever it is to have the
ultimate, you know, the

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authoritative AI, meanwhile,
have to give Zuckerberg some

607
00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:53,440
props. He's he's fighting them
in a different way, the meta,

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00:32:53,740 --> 00:32:56,380
large language model, which is
Lama,

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Unknown: la, la,

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00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:02,940
Adam Curry: la, la. They just
put it out open source, like,

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Oh, you guys, you go pay all
that money, and then we're just

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going to give this to everybody
to play around with at home. So

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they don't, you know, because I
have llama and, you know, does

614
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some things, you know, I can put
in, give me an HTML page with

615
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this code embedded in it. It
does that. It's okay, you know,

616
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but 35 cents an API call is not
okay. One of our producers took

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a page out of your notebook, LM,
and he uploaded the manual to

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his Sony Xav 1500 which is a
head unit for your automobile,

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and they made a podcast out of
it. Okay, so

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Bag: you're about to install a
new car stereo. Had the tools

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ready, got the excitement
building, but before you toss

622
00:33:52,780 --> 00:33:54,760
those instruction manuals aside,
Yeah,

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Douche: hold on. Hold on. Don't
do that. We're

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00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,180
Bag: actually diving into that
often ignored treasure trove of

625
00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:04,860
knowledge today with the Sony
Xav 1500 e manual. Yeah,

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Douche: because honestly, those
manuals are way more interesting

627
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than people give them credit.

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Unknown: Oh, yeah,

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Bag: it's not just about
connecting wires. It's about

630
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unlocking a whole world of
features and understanding the

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tech that's shaping the modern
driving experience, like it's

632
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:19,859
shaping the modern driving

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Douche: experience. It's true.
Yeah, this manual, well, let me

634
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,040
tell you, it doesn't disappoint.
I mean, where else you gonna

635
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,800
find a whining about not eating
batteries right off? You

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00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,540
John C Dvorak: know, they have,
you can stop it for a second.

637
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They have these stock phrases.
It does. I see more butts,

638
00:34:33,620 --> 00:34:35,900
according to him, doesn't
disappoint the point he's

639
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:39,080
stretching the bus. Disappoint
is one of their main little

640
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,300
catch phrases. Yes,

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00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,660
Adam Curry: yes. I just love how
they're making the manual,

642
00:34:43,660 --> 00:34:45,280
reading, entertaining the bat,

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00:34:45,340 --> 00:34:48,700
Bag: seriously. Page one, safety
precautions, and boom, there it

644
00:34:48,700 --> 00:34:51,160
is. Do not ingest the battery.
Okay.

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00:34:51,939 --> 00:34:55,959
Unknown: Then, did you hear what
you said? Listen to this,

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seriously.

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00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,800
Bag: Page one, safety
precautions, and boom, there it

648
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,300
is. Do not ingest the battery.
Okay? Then, I mean, I get it

649
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:06,300
safety first and all. But still,
it's not every day you see that.

650
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No, it's not just

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John C Dvorak: every day you see
don't ingest the battery.

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00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:18,240
Adam Curry: Oh, man, it's so
cool. I love it. I love it. And

653
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:22,760
of course, the reason why, I
mean, please, more AI art on the

654
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,200
Art Generator, please.

655
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John C Dvorak: You can't ask for
that, because what

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00:35:27,980 --> 00:35:32,600
Adam Curry: do you mean? It's
all, you know, grok, which is a

657
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,100
part of x, you know, it's
feeding on itself. So upload all

658
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:41,380
your AI stuff to x, make sure
that grok is the first one to

659
00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:48,400
collapse. But by the way,
speaking of x, although the news

660
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,540
was only out for about two
hours, did you see that Elon

661
00:35:52,540 --> 00:35:54,580
capitulated to Brazil?

662
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:55,720
Unknown: Yeah,

663
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:59,020
Adam Curry: I'm sure he would,
yeah, but that that story didn't

664
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really get any traction.

665
00:36:01,180 --> 00:36:04,500
John C Dvorak: Who cares? People
who thought

666
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,220
Adam Curry: Elon was the
protector of free speech care

667
00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:13,320
John C Dvorak: I noticed this. I
mean, I knew, of course, it was

668
00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:15,660
all. I got tons of email about
it, yeah,

669
00:36:15,660 --> 00:36:19,200
Adam Curry: but it got demoted
everywhere, on certainly, on X,

670
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,580
oh, yeah, because he's not Mr.
Free speech. He's like, Well,

671
00:36:22,580 --> 00:36:25,580
you know, maybe I should pay the
million dollars, or maybe I

672
00:36:25,580 --> 00:36:28,940
should, you know, do exactly
what they asked me to

673
00:36:28,940 --> 00:36:32,300
John C Dvorak: do. He's a
businessman, exactly.

674
00:36:32,780 --> 00:36:37,460
Adam Curry: He's not the hero
everybody thinks, nor is Pavel

675
00:36:37,460 --> 00:36:38,240
Durov,

676
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:41,020
Unknown: one month after being
arrested by French authorities,

677
00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:44,740
Telegram Founder Pavel Durov
agrees to cooperate and hand

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over information of people who
use the platform for criminal

679
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purposes. Durov was charged with
failing to curb extremist and

680
00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:54,040
terrorist contact on telegram

681
00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:58,360
to further deter criminals from
abusing telegram search we have

682
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,340
updated our Terms of Service and
Privacy Policy ensuring they are

683
00:37:02,340 --> 00:37:06,120
consistent across the world,
we've made it clear that the IP

684
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,240
addresses and phone numbers of
those who violate our rules can

685
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:12,660
be disclosed to relevant
authorities in response to valid

686
00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:13,800
legal requests.

687
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An avowed free speech advocate,
Durov initially criticized his

688
00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:22,520
arrest he has long resisted
attempts to take down content on

689
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,820
Telegram, and has previously
seen it banned in Iran and in

690
00:37:25,820 --> 00:37:29,660
his native Russia, whereas was
later unbanned rather than hand

691
00:37:29,660 --> 00:37:31,520
over users details, yeah,

692
00:37:31,580 --> 00:37:34,100
Adam Curry: IP addresses,
anything you want. Yeah, I'll

693
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:39,380
give it to you. Bye, bye, bye,
they all buckle. All the Free

694
00:37:39,380 --> 00:37:39,980
Speech going,

695
00:37:40,340 --> 00:37:44,920
John C Dvorak: who you buckle
under the fascist state? Well,

696
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,420
Adam Curry: yeah, but plot you
do platforms can't be for free

697
00:37:49,420 --> 00:37:52,360
speech. It doesn't it's non
existent. No,

698
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,420
John C Dvorak: you can just
skirt it, and that's why the AI

699
00:37:55,420 --> 00:37:59,620
models are so good. What do you
mean? Well, if you listen to the

700
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,240
Trudeau thing, where he reveals
that he is the son of Fidel

701
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:06,960
Castro and on and on. Yeah,
illegal more. Can

702
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,840
Adam Curry: you ask for illegal
content? He I was looking at the

703
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:16,680
California bill, and so this,
this California bill only

704
00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:22,340
adheres to covered models, which
is not a supermodel, it's just a

705
00:38:22,340 --> 00:38:26,720
covered model, so and so,
anything before January 2027 I

706
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:30,500
don't know why it's 2027 a
covered model means an

707
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:33,680
artificial intelligence model
trained using a quantity of

708
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,540
computing power greater than 10
to the 26 integer or floating

709
00:38:38,540 --> 00:38:43,540
point operations, the cost of
which exceeds $100 million when

710
00:38:43,540 --> 00:38:47,200
calculated using the average
market prices of cloud compute

711
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:50,680
at the start of training as
reasonably assessed by the

712
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,960
developer. What?

713
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:59,080
Unknown: What? I have no idea
what that means

714
00:38:59,260 --> 00:39:00,900
Adam Curry: an advanced person.
What difference

715
00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:03,360
John C Dvorak: does it make?
Why? Why should that have an Why

716
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,100
is that an element of a law?

717
00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:09,120
Adam Curry: Well, that's
provable. That's my question.

718
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,900
Advanced persistent threat. This
is what it's all about. Means an

719
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:16,380
adversary with sophisticated
levels of expertise and

720
00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:20,540
significant resources that allow
it through the use of multiple

721
00:39:20,540 --> 00:39:23,180
different attack vectors,
including, but not limited to

722
00:39:23,180 --> 00:39:26,780
cyber physical deception to
generate opportunities to

723
00:39:26,780 --> 00:39:29,840
achieve its objectives that are
typically to establish and

724
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,660
extend its presence within the
information technology

725
00:39:32,660 --> 00:39:36,440
infrastructure of organizations
for purposes of exfiltrating

726
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,860
information or to undermine or
impede critical aspects of a

727
00:39:39,860 --> 00:39:43,540
mission program or organization
or place itself in a position to

728
00:39:43,540 --> 00:39:47,500
do so in the future. What? What
is this bill?

729
00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:52,480
John C Dvorak: What is
indecipherable? Meanwhile,

730
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,660
obviously, it's some bill to
harass someone, person,

731
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,240
Adam Curry: yeah, probably
Facebook, if any. Buddy.

732
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,340
Meanwhile, NPR reports the food
bloggers are very unhappy with

733
00:40:05,340 --> 00:40:09,780
AI because it's generating
recipes that can be deadly.

734
00:40:12,060 --> 00:40:15,000
John C Dvorak: No, that makes
sense. I haven't heard this.

735
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,000
This is a new aspect to it AI's
complaining

736
00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:21,140
Adam Curry: AI recipes can be
dangerous too. Last year, Forbes

737
00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:24,800
reported that one AI recipe
generator produced a recipe for,

738
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,540
quote, aromatic water mix. When
a Twitter user prompted it to

739
00:40:29,540 --> 00:40:33,140
make a recipe with water, bleach
and ammonia, the recipe actually

740
00:40:33,140 --> 00:40:36,080
produced deadly chlorine gas.
Yeah, it

741
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,380
Unknown: would Yay. Yay. More

742
00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:43,900
Adam Curry: of it. Please. More.
See more butts. More. See more

743
00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:48,100
butts. Ai, I'm all for it. The
faster this collapse, the

744
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:51,220
better, more more. Ai,

745
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,500
John C Dvorak: you know, this is
what's so funny about that, and

746
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:56,560
it's somewhat ironic is you can
call for the collapse all you

747
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,980
want. It's going to collapse
with or without the poison.

748
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:02,340
Adam Curry: Oh no, I know. But
then we can take credit when you

749
00:41:02,340 --> 00:41:04,440
say we did that. We did

750
00:41:04,740 --> 00:41:08,520
John C Dvorak: go marketing, for
marketing purposes. You nailed

751
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:08,640
it.

752
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,660
Adam Curry: Go podcasting,

753
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,860
John C Dvorak: although Good
point. Okay, one of my things,

754
00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:14,220
what's

755
00:41:14,220 --> 00:41:17,400
Adam Curry: wrong with you? Come
on. People say no agenda.

756
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,240
Podcasting called for it, and
then all their producers went

757
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:24,980
out and created AI slop, and it
collapsed the models. Thank you.

758
00:41:24,980 --> 00:41:28,760
By the way, to the 10,000
physicists who emailed us about

759
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,600
entropy with lots of interesting
reading. I

760
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,340
John C Dvorak: don't even want
to consider that. You know, you

761
00:41:37,340 --> 00:41:38,960
don't quite have it right?

762
00:41:39,020 --> 00:41:41,380
Adam Curry: Here's a lecture.
Here's a five hour lecture on

763
00:41:41,380 --> 00:41:47,140
YouTube you can watch and you'll
understand entropy perfectly. I

764
00:41:47,140 --> 00:41:50,020
love you all. I love you all.
You got the point. I think they

765
00:41:50,020 --> 00:41:53,920
got the point, although this is
just one last clip here. This is

766
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:59,320
the CEO of Bharti Airtel, which
is an Indian cell phone company,

767
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,180
and he has a unique use for AI.
Mr. Vitel, thank

768
00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:05,700
Unknown: you so much for joining
us on CNBC TV 18. The first

769
00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:08,820
question I wanted to ask is we
already have applications such

770
00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:11,880
as true caller. The trai is
working towards caller name

771
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,700
display. How is this AI path
solution different.

772
00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:15,480
So

773
00:42:15,540 --> 00:42:18,840
the the advantage that this
solution has is that, firstly,

774
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,260
this is a menace, so everybody,
more people working on it,

775
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,400
better it is.

776
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,200
Adam Curry: This is for you,
John, this is the menace. This

777
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,060
is a menace that you are having
problem with

778
00:42:26,060 --> 00:42:27,920
Unknown: for the industry,
because there's a problem for

779
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,700
the customers. I think what our
solution does is that it doesn't

780
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:34,760
require an application. The
application you refer to

781
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,140
requires an application. So ours
doesn't require an application.

782
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,140
Secondly, like I mentioned on
CNAP, you you will know a user

783
00:42:44,140 --> 00:42:46,600
calling XYZ calling, but you
don't know whether he's a spam

784
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,940
store or not, and you could
still be frauded. So what our

785
00:42:48,940 --> 00:42:53,020
solution does is actually uses
over 250 parameters on a real

786
00:42:53,020 --> 00:42:55,960
time basis across every single
call and every message on our

787
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,840
network, which is roughly one
and a half billion SMS, is two

788
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,680
and a half billion calls, and
alerts the customer if it's a

789
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,480
spam suspected spam, we have
seen tremendous power in this in

790
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,940
the last six months. It's an AI
model which is constantly

791
00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:13,020
learning 87% right
identification of spam calls,

792
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,920
99.5% right identification of
spam messages. So we're very

793
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,380
excited that this will really
put power back in the hands of

794
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:22,280
the user to know that they have
been protected,

795
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,280
Adam Curry: you'll have no
power. This is fantastic. No

796
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,560
power learning. It's a learning
model, so you just put all kinds

797
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:35,240
of slop in there, and the AI
will just start. It can go

798
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:40,160
nowhere. This is so good. They
better start bringing in quantum

799
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,220
computing quick, or they're
going to lose, oh, there's,

800
00:43:42,220 --> 00:43:46,300
John C Dvorak: there's, there's
the rub. What? That's a bull

801
00:43:46,300 --> 00:43:50,680
crap item too, I know, but most
tech, including the internet, is

802
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,880
bull crap. Yes, we have not
benefited from any of it. Funny,

803
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,160
we have because we have a
podcast we wouldn't be able to

804
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,980
do. Actually, we could over
broadcast media, but we would

805
00:43:59,980 --> 00:44:04,860
never have even met. No, you're
right. Oh, how like you and I

806
00:44:04,860 --> 00:44:09,600
would not have you met in 9293
at CNET, that's right. I

807
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,680
Adam Curry: was, I was impressed
by

808
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,680
John C Dvorak: you. Sure you
were, but yes, it was.

809
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,340
Adam Curry: I was impressed by
you. I was like, Wow, that guy

810
00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:20,040
knows what he's doing. He's
good. I mean, he you were you?

811
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,780
Well, let me just fawn over you
for a second. I literally just

812
00:44:23,780 --> 00:44:26,420
said the other day on the new
media show, one of the secrets

813
00:44:26,420 --> 00:44:28,700
to our success is we're not
actually friends, and maybe

814
00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:31,220
don't even like each other that
much. They thought that. They

815
00:44:31,220 --> 00:44:32,660
thought that was hilarious.

816
00:44:33,140 --> 00:44:35,300
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
possible, so but

817
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:37,820
Adam Curry: let me just tell let
me set the stage. It was the

818
00:44:37,820 --> 00:44:41,800
pilot for CNET, which was
supposed to be seen at central

819
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,860
scene at Central but it was
supposed to be a whole 24 hour

820
00:44:44,860 --> 00:44:49,240
day cable station. What was the
guy's name? The guy, the fox guy

821
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:54,460
who? He's dead now, I think was
Kevin Wendell. Kevin Wendy still

822
00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:57,940
around? Kevin Wendell, I'm
pretty sure. Yeah. So he, he

823
00:44:57,940 --> 00:45:01,140
strung together the original Fox
low. Television station,

824
00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:04,140
network. So he was the TV guy at
Halsey. He was also

825
00:45:04,140 --> 00:45:08,220
John C Dvorak: involved with the
Prince of Bel Air, yes, and

826
00:45:08,220 --> 00:45:11,340
Adam Curry: then you had Halsey
minor, who, now, Didn't he have

827
00:45:11,340 --> 00:45:13,680
family money that he squandered
on this? No, he

828
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,160
John C Dvorak: uses Shelby,
Bonnie, Bonnie's money. He

829
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:21,080
Adam Curry: squandered that
instead. So they paid us all to

830
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,620
come out to San Francisco. I
don't remember the studio, but I

831
00:45:24,620 --> 00:45:26,540
remember there was a train out
front.

832
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:29,960
John C Dvorak: There was a
caboose. It was a caboose. Yeah,

833
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,820
it was a caboose. It had, that's
where they had the food and and

834
00:45:34,820 --> 00:45:38,240
they had it catered. It was
dynamite for the first good six

835
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:41,680
to nine months that it was
great. Bruce was really but it's

836
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,680
like everything else. I've
noticed this wherever you work,

837
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,980
in these startups, oh, yeah,
you're free, free food. It's

838
00:45:47,980 --> 00:45:50,800
dynamite. And then, you know,
nine months later, a bookkeeper

839
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,360
comes in and says, no,

840
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,080
Unknown: no, no, no

841
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,380
Adam Curry: more. Free food, no
makeup, no. You don't need mice.

842
00:45:56,380 --> 00:45:56,500
They

843
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:59,620
John C Dvorak: cut the makeup
artist, which is a huge blunder.

844
00:45:59,620 --> 00:46:00,960
Just yell loudly. We'll

845
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,560
Adam Curry: use a shotgun mic.
It'll be fine. So there's John

846
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,780
doing a, like, a McLaughlin,
McLaughlin group. And I think it

847
00:46:09,780 --> 00:46:13,980
was John Perry Barlow might have
been on that, remember? And I

848
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:17,340
just remember how good you were.
And I was like, oh, that's,

849
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,100
that's good. I didn't get to be
on that show. No, I had to

850
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:24,920
interview Dr Mae Jemison. I
remember her, the first black

851
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,140
woman who was on the stage,
vaguely

852
00:46:27,140 --> 00:46:29,420
John C Dvorak: Europe. The thing
that was noticeable about you

853
00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:32,360
is, when you were doing this,
this audition, you were like, so

854
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,200
tall, because everybody else in
broadcasting five

855
00:46:37,220 --> 00:46:39,680
Adam Curry: with big heads, with
big heads, and you had

856
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,860
John C Dvorak: a big hand. You
were tall and you kind of stood

857
00:46:41,860 --> 00:46:44,800
out you, and they didn't have
any Apple crates or anything. I

858
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,780
should have definitely gave them
to the other people.

859
00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:49,240
Adam Curry: No. But everything
was wrong about that. And then

860
00:46:49,540 --> 00:46:52,000
when the offer came in, it was
like, well, to give you 8

861
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,740
million warrants or options, I'm
like, huh? No, I'm not leaving

862
00:46:56,740 --> 00:46:59,740
MTV for that. Of course, I
should have taken the deal,

863
00:46:59,740 --> 00:47:05,220
because I wouldn't be doing this
ten million yeah. Oh, well,

864
00:47:05,220 --> 00:47:11,880
there you go. And that's funny.
I don't know how he got to that.

865
00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:15,060
John C Dvorak: I brought it up
because you were talking about,

866
00:47:15,060 --> 00:47:17,940
I was talking about the internet
sucking. Oh, yeah, we ever got

867
00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:19,560
together? It's because of the
internet.

868
00:47:20,460 --> 00:47:23,420
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's right,
that's right. And it's been a

869
00:47:23,420 --> 00:47:25,220
marriage made in heaven ever
since.

870
00:47:25,820 --> 00:47:27,980
John C Dvorak: Well, podcast
made in heaven. There

871
00:47:27,980 --> 00:47:31,160
Adam Curry: you go. Well, that's
podcast is, is truly one of the

872
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,160
last things standing. That's the
only thing that'll be

873
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,480
worthwhile. Now you know that
it's that, it's a real deal.

874
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,740
He's coming from an RSS feed,
not from a platform.

875
00:47:43,180 --> 00:47:45,280
John C Dvorak: So you know,
it'll be this, and you're going

876
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,160
to make sure that that's exactly
what happens. Yeah, oh yeah,

877
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:53,200
you're the only one. You're the
you are definitely the at this

878
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,740
point you were. It was always
debatable, not to me, but it was

879
00:47:56,740 --> 00:48:01,480
debatable to a lot of people.
Dave Weiner, and I love how you

880
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,820
say that, Dave, Weiner, who's,
you know, just a never, I

881
00:48:05,820 --> 00:48:10,140
thought we saw was a ancillary
to the idea. And then, of

882
00:48:10,140 --> 00:48:12,480
course, the person who coined
the phrase, you didn't coin it,

883
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:18,180
which is not the only, only bad
black mark. This

884
00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:22,640
Adam Curry: is such a black mark
that is, oh well,

885
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,220
John C Dvorak: but you invented
it, and then you've and you're

886
00:48:25,220 --> 00:48:28,460
the only ones take, picked up
the flag to take it to

887
00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:31,460
podcasting 2.0 which is a big
deal. It's and I've been

888
00:48:31,460 --> 00:48:33,320
running, I fully realized yet,
no,

889
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,120
Adam Curry: no, no, it'll take
another couple of years. It's

890
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,300
okay. These things take time,
but people are going to start to

891
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:41,800
figure it out when all the AI
slop ruins everything, and be

892
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,120
like this, Twitter is no good, x
is no good, Facebook is no good.

893
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,780
It's just slop. Yes, you'll come
back to podcast, and you won't

894
00:48:49,780 --> 00:48:56,560
be getting your podcast on
YouTube. So the Text group, the

895
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:02,880
church lady Text group, exploded
the other day, and even our

896
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,720
constitutional lawyer Rob sent
me a note about it. Oh no.

897
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,100
Unknown: Oh no.

898
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,340
Adam Curry: What's going to
happen? George Soros is buying

899
00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:13,260
all the radio stations.

900
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,260
John C Dvorak: My Mimi's the
same way. Okay.

901
00:49:16,260 --> 00:49:19,140
Adam Curry: Well, let me calm
everybody down, including Glenn

902
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:19,800
Beck. George

903
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,980
Unknown: Soros just bought 200
radio stations in 40 different

904
00:49:24,980 --> 00:49:29,600
markets. Now the vote came down
in the FCC. It was partisan,

905
00:49:29,660 --> 00:49:33,140
three Democrats voting for it,
two Republicans voting against

906
00:49:33,140 --> 00:49:37,520
it. But here's the here's the
real problem. According to

907
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,980
existing FCC rules, foreign
company ownership of US radio

908
00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:49,780
stations, is not supposed to
exceed 25% but Soros took

909
00:49:49,780 --> 00:49:54,640
foreign investment money to make
his bid, and then he asked the

910
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,860
FCC to make an exception to the
usual review process.

911
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:01,380
So

912
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,220
the the FCC fast tracked this.

913
00:50:06,780 --> 00:50:07,620
Why?

914
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,140
Why would they do that?

915
00:50:10,260 --> 00:50:14,340
Adam Curry: Well, let me answer
this first, because everyone

916
00:50:14,340 --> 00:50:18,240
just reads headlines, including
Glenn Beck is disappointing, and

917
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:22,220
he's a radio guy. He should
know. So first of all, George

918
00:50:22,220 --> 00:50:26,480
Soros is a zombie. It's no
longer George Soros. This is an

919
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,000
arachnid. Arachnidism. What is
it called?

920
00:50:29,420 --> 00:50:31,400
John C Dvorak: An anachron
anachronism?

921
00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:33,560
Thank you. Arachnism,

922
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,120
Adam Curry: arachnophobia. Soros
is dead. He's not running

923
00:50:38,180 --> 00:50:42,460
anything if Alex is now kind of
in charge, but he's off. You

924
00:50:42,460 --> 00:50:45,040
know, he's part of the is it
Clinton Easton? Now he's with,

925
00:50:45,460 --> 00:50:48,580
what's her face with the wieners
ex

926
00:50:50,140 --> 00:50:52,840
John C Dvorak: wife? Yeah. So
uma Abda, Uma,

927
00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:55,420
Adam Curry: yeah. So that guy's
mired in all kinds of other

928
00:50:55,420 --> 00:50:59,440
stuff. This is the, this is the
fund. And here's what really

929
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,880
happened. It's not about 200
radio stations. It's about the

930
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,380
company Odyssey.

931
00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:07,140
John C Dvorak: Odyssey is more
than 200 it's more like 239

932
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:07,980
Yeah,

933
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,620
Adam Curry: Odyssey has, you
know, I thought was almost 250

934
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,120
radio stations. They have a
podcast network. Hello, the

935
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:15,720
podcast

936
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:18,840
John C Dvorak: networks only
about five to 10 podcasts, and

937
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,740
then they take credit for every
other podcast in the world on

938
00:51:21,740 --> 00:51:24,860
their website, of course, Joe
Rogan, of course,

939
00:51:24,860 --> 00:51:27,680
Adam Curry: they do. They've
been in chapter 11. They're

940
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,600
bankrupt. And what the Soros
Fund Management did is they

941
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,460
bought up $400 million of
Odysseys debt. They bought up

942
00:51:37,460 --> 00:51:38,480
the debt.

943
00:51:38,780 --> 00:51:41,920
John C Dvorak: 50 Cent was,
let's be a little more specific.

944
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,380
They bought the best debt.

945
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,260
Adam Curry: What do you mean by
that? There's

946
00:51:47,260 --> 00:51:50,260
John C Dvorak: different kinds
of debt? Oh, explain. And the

947
00:51:50,260 --> 00:51:53,380
debt that they bought is the
debt that has to be serviced.

948
00:51:53,380 --> 00:51:57,460
The first, yeah, the first,
first money, yes. So they're the

949
00:51:57,460 --> 00:52:02,580
ones that get all the I'll just
throw in a couple of thoughts.

950
00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:08,340
This is a Soros type deal. This
is an investment, yes, a good

951
00:52:08,340 --> 00:52:13,080
one. Designed a good one because
she got one, but something 1.9 I

952
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,220
think $1.9 billion in debt.
Yeah, for 400 million. Get the

953
00:52:17,220 --> 00:52:21,020
whole thing for 400 million.
Yeah, and it's the best debt to

954
00:52:21,020 --> 00:52:26,420
shareholders. Get nothing,
nothing. Everybody gets wiped

955
00:52:26,420 --> 00:52:30,620
out, except of except the Soros
with this $400 million

956
00:52:30,860 --> 00:52:34,040
investment. And the first thing,
well, you can tell, I don't know

957
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,100
what your interpretation is of
this. I mean, my interpretation

958
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:41,800
is that this was an incredibly
smart move, yes, to buy up a

959
00:52:41,860 --> 00:52:45,640
bunch of crappy stations. Most
of music stations, by the way,

960
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,300
is not that just going to be
political, no. And it which is

961
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:50,680
the real giveaway. It's like,

962
00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:54,640
Adam Curry: don't forget the
podcast network and

963
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,440
John C Dvorak: the stupid
Podcast Network, which is

964
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,320
useless, they're gonna piece it
off and make a billion dollars

965
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,100
in

966
00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:05,280
Adam Curry: pieces. They're
gonna sell off the stations.

967
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,180
It's what you do. That's

968
00:53:06,180 --> 00:53:07,560
John C Dvorak: what I said.
They're gonna sell off the

969
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,980
stations in bits and pieces. Get
about a billion dollars back

970
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:13,860
this. This is one of those
examples where the parts are

971
00:53:13,860 --> 00:53:15,180
worth more than the whole.

972
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:18,900
Adam Curry: Yes, that's exactly
what a fun cause 400

973
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,360
John C Dvorak: million Yeah,
it's

974
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,840
Adam Curry: a big hole, and
you're not in it. Wait, that's a

975
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,680
different one, and

976
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,560
John C Dvorak: that's all it is.
Yeah, the fact that people

977
00:53:27,620 --> 00:53:32,600
brought this up, and Mimi was
one of them, oh, no, like, What?

978
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:33,500
What?

979
00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:38,840
Adam Curry: I heard this for the
past four days. Oh, George

980
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,220
Soros, he was gonna take all the
conservative shows off the air.

981
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:49,840
No, he's not. And the reason why
the FCC fast tracked it is

982
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,560
because this is about to go
under. Yes,

983
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,800
John C Dvorak: they had to money
between a rock and a hard place.

984
00:53:56,860 --> 00:53:59,860
You either fast track this or
these guys are out of business

985
00:53:59,860 --> 00:54:04,980
and the whole country can go to
pot. You have no choice but to

986
00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:07,980
fast track. And then so the
Democrats vote yes, and the

987
00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:10,800
Republicans being the jerk offs
that they are, don't, you know,

988
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,320
they don't want to argue. We
don't want to be associated with

989
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,780
this, we'll vote no, and we
don't have to worry about the

990
00:54:15,780 --> 00:54:19,140
consequences, because we know
it's going to pass. It's

991
00:54:19,140 --> 00:54:22,400
Adam Curry: just It was
unbelievable to me, how, and

992
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,580
it's every story had the
information in it,

993
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:28,220
John C Dvorak: but it was all,
no, it was obvious what was

994
00:54:28,220 --> 00:54:29,120
going on, yeah.

995
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,060
Adam Curry: But it was all Oh,
Soros is gonna buy all the by

996
00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:35,840
the way, most of these stations,
the average listenership is 74

997
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:37,340
years and older,

998
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,500
John C Dvorak: a lot of old
guys, a lot of am stations in

999
00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:41,740
this

1000
00:54:41,740 --> 00:54:43,900
Adam Curry: mess, yeah. And at
the same time, you know, there

1001
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:49,480
was the keep am radio bill. Did
you see that? Yeah? And because,

1002
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,460
guess what, EV electric vehicles
aren't great with am radio. It's

1003
00:54:54,460 --> 00:54:59,200
like holding up a hairdryer,
hair dryer next to your

1004
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,720
transistor. Radio, they go, Oh,
we have to keep am radio alive,

1005
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:04,560
because, you know,

1006
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,740
John C Dvorak: they got filters.
They can make fix it. Because,

1007
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,940
Adam Curry: you know what, who's
still on am radio? The all

1008
00:55:11,940 --> 00:55:13,860
John C Dvorak: the talkers, all
the right wing talkers. That's

1009
00:55:13,860 --> 00:55:16,380
why they had to pass that bill.
All the right wing talkers are

1010
00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:17,820
an am radio, yeah, but

1011
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,480
Adam Curry: you know what, all
the kids these days, they don't

1012
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,760
listen to radio. It's, I mean,
okay, you can still make a lot

1013
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,880
of money from radio, just like
from cable, you know, it'll,

1014
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,740
it'll go for a few more years.
It's

1015
00:55:30,740 --> 00:55:33,320
John C Dvorak: worth it,
probably more than that, yeah,

1016
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,560
it's still, it's still a
functioning, uh, media,

1017
00:55:36,620 --> 00:55:39,560
Adam Curry: yeah, but, but, you
know, within 10 years, your

1018
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:44,260
listeners are dead, just like
George Soros. It's George Soros.

1019
00:55:44,740 --> 00:55:44,920
He's

1020
00:55:45,460 --> 00:55:47,440
John C Dvorak: gonna, no, I got,
I was wondering if you're gonna

1021
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,280
do this story, because I'm glad
you caught it too. It was

1022
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,860
because, well, I caught it right
away, and I expected Horowitz to

1023
00:55:53,860 --> 00:55:56,500
bring it up on DH and play, but
he never didn't. I didn't want

1024
00:55:56,500 --> 00:55:58,780
to introduce it. And I said,
Well, this whole thing can pass.

1025
00:55:58,780 --> 00:56:02,700
And then you brought it up. And
so I had to my opinion, fully

1026
00:56:02,700 --> 00:56:06,600
formed ready to go, because I
had to deal with Mimi and her

1027
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,500
freak out,

1028
00:56:08,340 --> 00:56:10,920
Adam Curry: is she on the church
ladies Text group? But I didn't

1029
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:11,700
know why she got

1030
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:14,700
John C Dvorak: so worked up
about this. It's so obvious.

1031
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:18,480
It's just a just a smart
investment that had to be done

1032
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,700
by somebody. And nobody else you
know came up with this and, and

1033
00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:27,500
this is a classic Soros move.
This is what he does, and when

1034
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:32,840
he does, you know, when he does,
the guy's a genius

1035
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,720
Adam Curry: investor, but it's
not him, it's the Soros Fund

1036
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:38,780
Management, yeah, but it's
still, it's still a mentality.

1037
00:56:38,780 --> 00:56:42,820
It's his mentality. But the guy
is dead. He's dead. It's like

1038
00:56:42,820 --> 00:56:43,300
Warren

1039
00:56:43,300 --> 00:56:45,700
John C Dvorak: Buffett. You
know, his mentality is just

1040
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,460
permeates the

1041
00:56:49,180 --> 00:56:53,080
Adam Curry: so I just want
everybody to calm down, even the

1042
00:56:53,140 --> 00:56:58,780
the Republican FCC commissioner
was all and he knows what this

1043
00:56:58,780 --> 00:57:02,220
deal is about. He was
gaslighting. Was showboating,

1044
00:57:02,220 --> 00:57:05,340
yeah, let me see, I think I
have, I think I have a clip of

1045
00:57:05,340 --> 00:57:10,080
him. It wasn't, it was, it was
gaslighting here. This is, this

1046
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,700
is the guy indicated there's a
car. Is his name, Commissioner

1047
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:15,780
Carr transaction

1048
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,540
Unknown: where a Soros back
group would take ownership of

1049
00:57:20,540 --> 00:57:24,080
over 200 radio stations across
40 different

1050
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,100
Adam Curry: here he is take
ownership of no

1051
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,340
Unknown: markets after the SC
originally indicating that that

1052
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,100
transaction could be reviewed
and approved at the bureau level

1053
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:36,860
without a commission vote. It's
now become clear that that is a

1054
00:57:36,860 --> 00:57:39,740
decision before the full
commission, and it's one that I

1055
00:57:39,740 --> 00:57:43,060
would assume now or in the near
future, the commission would

1056
00:57:43,180 --> 00:57:46,420
approve. I think what's
interesting about it is that the

1057
00:57:46,420 --> 00:57:51,100
FC here is not following its
normal process, reviewing a

1058
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:53,860
transaction we have, says,
established over a number of

1059
00:57:53,860 --> 00:57:57,220
years, one way in which you can
get approval from the FCC when

1060
00:57:57,220 --> 00:58:00,420
you have in excess of 25%
foreign ownership, which this

1061
00:58:00,420 --> 00:58:03,960
transaction does. It seems to me
that the FCC is poised to

1062
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,020
create, for the first time, an
entirely new shortcut ever.

1063
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:07,560
Yeah. Thank

1064
00:58:07,740 --> 00:58:10,560
you. As you pointed out here in
previously, these proceedings

1065
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:15,180
for transfer of ownership have
been expedited. What exactly

1066
00:58:15,180 --> 00:58:19,080
makes this case so deserving of
an expedited proceeding? So

1067
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,840
there is nothing about this
transaction that is out of the

1068
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,240
ordinary. It's the type of thing
that we see all the time, and

1069
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,800
the FC has a process for this.
The full commission itself has

1070
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,140
never signed off on a shortcut.

1071
00:58:33,380 --> 00:58:37,040
Adam Curry: Oh, shortcut. Soros
is getting favor from the

1072
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:43,240
Democrats. No, this is what I
deal with, and I'm glad you have

1073
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,660
to deal with it too. That makes
me, that makes me happy

1074
00:58:46,660 --> 00:58:48,760
John C Dvorak: to deal with it.
That's what this show is for.

1075
00:58:50,620 --> 00:58:53,260
Might as well do the next are
sensible people out there that

1076
00:58:53,260 --> 00:58:55,960
can see through it. The

1077
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,840
Adam Curry: the next one was
also a little minor thing. I'm

1078
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,640
like, Well, who cares about
this? And the term is founders

1079
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:06,720
mode, all

1080
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,540
Bag: the drama around 23andme
that could give startup founders

1081
00:59:09,540 --> 00:59:12,480
one more reason to stay private
or at least reconsider the

1082
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,320
consequences of founders mode, a
narrative that has been sweeping

1083
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,660
through tech in recent weeks,
especially when you have to

1084
00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:21,800
answer to a public board and
shareholders. Now the CEO and

1085
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,920
founder of the DNA testing
company and Wojcicki, she

1086
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,980
brought the company public vice
back just three years ago. It

1087
00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:33,140
has since lost 99.9% of its
value from a $6 billion market

1088
00:59:33,140 --> 00:59:37,520
cap peak she decided earlier
this year but should be private

1089
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,840
and firmly in her control. She
proposed buying back all

1090
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,840
outstanding shares that she
didn't already own. The board

1091
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,200
rejected that proposal, but she
still has enough control to

1092
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,100
block other potential bidders.
It has now culminated with all

1093
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:54,760
seven members of that board
resigning and a notice from the

1094
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,820
NASDAQ threatening to delist the
company if she can't replace

1095
00:59:57,820 --> 01:00:01,560
them by October 3. Now. Take a
look. This is the current web

1096
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,460
page of 23andme board of
directors. It's mighty lonely,

1097
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,300
though. It included some of the
most important leaders in tech

1098
01:00:09,300 --> 01:00:12,180
and health care. These are just
some of them, Sequoia capitals

1099
01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:16,800
roll off both the YouTube CEO
Neil Mohan, renowned MDs, they

1100
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,620
were attracted in the first
place to a jet skis drive to

1101
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,880
move fast and ship products,
pioneering direct to consumer

1102
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,240
genomics. It's founders mode,
basically this whole saga

1103
01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:28,940
playing out in public with all
the scrutiny that goes along

1104
01:00:28,940 --> 01:00:30,260
with this founders

1105
01:00:30,260 --> 01:00:34,460
Adam Curry: mode, which means I
failed miserably. Everybody's

1106
01:00:34,460 --> 01:00:40,960
data is at risk, which I will
say this show said, Don't do

1107
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:46,540
this. Do not send your DNA to
this Google woman, to anybody,

1108
01:00:46,540 --> 01:00:51,580
to anybody. Yes, don't do it.
And now there's no oversight.

1109
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,100
The stock is under a buck. It's
like 30 cents, and she'll

1110
01:00:57,100 --> 01:00:59,500
eventually have full control
what she gonna do. She's gonna

1111
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:02,280
sell it. Good word. Every

1112
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,880
John C Dvorak: idea, yeah, Her
idea was to, I don't think was a

1113
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:10,080
bad idea, from her perspective,
to go private. Yeah. Thought it

1114
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,980
was sucking back up. Take it off
the market and load money. This

1115
01:01:13,980 --> 01:01:17,220
is what Michael Dell did, and
did quite well for himself,

1116
01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:20,480
taking this company off the
market. Take it off the market.

1117
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,480
I don't understand why these why
these board members who were

1118
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,600
handpicked by her to begin with,
all bailed out on the idea

1119
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,840
because it would have been a
moneymaker, you but you take it

1120
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,460
back, and then you rejigger it,
and then roll it out a second

1121
01:01:34,460 --> 01:01:37,460
time with another IPO and make a
ton of money. This just doesn't

1122
01:01:37,460 --> 01:01:39,140
make sense, because you
wouldn't. There's

1123
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,760
Adam Curry: obviously a lot
wrong with this company. So much

1124
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:43,120
wrong, I

1125
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,740
John C Dvorak: guess that must
be it. A lot is

1126
01:01:44,740 --> 01:01:47,140
Adam Curry: wrong inside that
company. Yeah, well, there you

1127
01:01:47,140 --> 01:01:50,080
go. Don't spread your DNA around
if

1128
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,420
John C Dvorak: there wasn't
something else wrong. This is a

1129
01:01:52,420 --> 01:01:53,620
great idea.

1130
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,480
Adam Curry: And then the final
scam, which came out in uh,

1131
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:03,660
senatorial over Sunday on the
new agenda. It is scam day. This

1132
01:02:03,660 --> 01:02:08,580
is something we learned from
this is something we learned

1133
01:02:08,580 --> 01:02:12,420
from Trump when he talked about
the pharmacy benefit managers

1134
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,600
who we tried to get out of the
equation. You remember he said a

1135
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,900
lot of people not going to be
happy. They're going to want to

1136
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:23,840
kill me over this. And this is
and this is the ozempic hearing.

1137
01:02:23,900 --> 01:02:27,320
Unknown: Bottom line is, you are
charging the American people

1138
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,220
substantially more for the same
exact drug than you are charging

1139
01:02:31,220 --> 01:02:34,580
people in other countries. And
my question is, why

1140
01:02:34,820 --> 01:02:40,780
we don't decide the price for
patients that's set by by the

1141
01:02:40,780 --> 01:02:41,740
insurance companies.

1142
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,220
Senators grilled the maker of
ozempic and other weight loss

1143
01:02:45,220 --> 01:02:49,420
drugs about why Americans pay so
much more than other countries.

1144
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,540
Take a look at the difference
here. So the company norvo

1145
01:02:52,540 --> 01:02:58,300
Nordisk charges $969 a month for
ozempic Before insurance and

1146
01:02:58,300 --> 01:03:02,100
rebates here in the United
States, compared to 155 a month

1147
01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:07,560
in Canada and 59 bucks in
Germany, the CEO blamed the US

1148
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,860
health care system, arguing that
so called pharmacy benefit

1149
01:03:10,860 --> 01:03:14,100
managers, the middlemen between
insurance companies and drug

1150
01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:16,620
makers, are the ones who
negotiate prices and get in the

1151
01:03:16,620 --> 01:03:18,660
way of passing discounts to
customers

1152
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:28,700
market, we have to operate in,
and we negotiate how to make

1153
01:03:28,700 --> 01:03:30,080
sure that Americans have access.

1154
01:03:30,140 --> 01:03:32,540
Just last week, the Federal
Trade Commission announced legal

1155
01:03:32,540 --> 01:03:35,600
action against three pharmacy
benefit managers, accusing them

1156
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,240
of inflating insulin prices. The

1157
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,020
Adam Curry: whole system is
corrupt. It's completely

1158
01:03:41,020 --> 01:03:42,880
John C Dvorak: insurance
companies are behind the whole

1159
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,020
thing, yes,

1160
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,840
Adam Curry: which everyone's
afraid to do anything about in

1161
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,240
our government. I don't, I'm
not. I guess they're the big

1162
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,300
donors. But it's, it is scammed

1163
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,060
John C Dvorak: the donors to
get. So there's that I can't

1164
01:03:55,060 --> 01:03:58,360
remember this woman's name. She
was on Gutfeld last night. She's

1165
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:03,300
a long time liberal, but she's
kind of turned She's that kind

1166
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:08,520
of attractive lesbian fitness
girl. She's on a lot of TV

1167
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:09,240
shows. She's

1168
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,320
Adam Curry: Jillian Michaels,
yes, yeah. Oh, I love her. She

1169
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:17,520
did a whole beautiful thing in a
hearing the other day, like

1170
01:04:17,580 --> 01:04:18,360
eight minutes, talked

1171
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,420
John C Dvorak: about that a
little bit, but on the show, she

1172
01:04:20,420 --> 01:04:25,640
went after ozempic, good to an
extreme. I wish I should. I

1173
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,160
should have clipped it, or could
still do it, but I'm not going

1174
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:35,180
to. I'll just tell you she went
off on it and it was like, Wow.

1175
01:04:35,180 --> 01:04:37,520
She's never going to be back on
this show again. No,

1176
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,440
Adam Curry: no, can't be on Fox
doing that nonsense. Nope. No,

1177
01:04:41,500 --> 01:04:44,380
no. She did eight minutes in
this hearing, and she got a

1178
01:04:44,380 --> 01:04:49,180
standing ovation. It was, it was
very good, you know? I And of

1179
01:04:49,180 --> 01:04:52,660
course, it was one of those sub
rooms where they just shove a

1180
01:04:52,660 --> 01:04:57,040
bunch of tables together in a
big hole in a big square. Well,

1181
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,900
yes, I'm in Washington, DC,
testifying. No. Well, you're in

1182
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:04,680
like, some little side room that
nobody cares about. Yeah, it's

1183
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,500
always, it's always Ron Johnson,
who I appreciate that he does

1184
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:08,160
it. He

1185
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:09,420
John C Dvorak: does that a lot.
John,

1186
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,720
Adam Curry: come to my party.
You know, it's like school.

1187
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,500
Let's all, let's all put the
tables in a square so we can all

1188
01:05:16,500 --> 01:05:19,320
see each other. Let's hold hands
and tell a secret.

1189
01:05:19,740 --> 01:05:22,160
John C Dvorak: She had one funny
bit she's talking about because

1190
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,320
they do these different
segments, and one of them is

1191
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,260
about Diddy. And she says, you
know, she was good friends with

1192
01:05:27,260 --> 01:05:30,260
Diddy and never got invited to
any of these parties. What's

1193
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,660
she's a lesbian. What's wrong
with me?

1194
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,780
Adam Curry: Hello, you're a
lesbian. You're no good did you

1195
01:05:35,780 --> 01:05:39,440
see the bodyguard who's like and
all these hot girls, all

1196
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,220
topless? And I went into the
men's room, and there she was.

1197
01:05:42,220 --> 01:05:46,900
She lifted her skirt up, like,
wow, these Diddy party. Ain't no

1198
01:05:46,900 --> 01:05:51,220
party like a Diddy party. This
is it. This is the year cat

1199
01:05:51,220 --> 01:05:54,760
Williams was right. Everything's
gonna be be all that is hidden

1200
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,720
will be known this year. So
coming Yeah, a lot is coming

1201
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,860
out. Blood is coming out. It
will not be on the six o'clock

1202
01:06:01,860 --> 01:06:05,640
news for sure. You'll hear it on
a podcast, and you'll go.

1203
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:13,560
Delighted, just delighted, to
see vice president Harris do a

1204
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:18,480
sit down interview with no
brother, Stephanie rule.

1205
01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:21,980
John C Dvorak: Stephanie rule,
who loves her

1206
01:06:22,220 --> 01:06:25,400
Adam Curry: well and so and the
the boys at the at the trading

1207
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,180
desk there on at Goldman loved
her when she was still at

1208
01:06:29,180 --> 01:06:32,420
Goldman. Sachs. I have that from
the New York banker, former New

1209
01:06:32,420 --> 01:06:33,080
York banker,

1210
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,900
John C Dvorak: and Stephanie,
what was she? What was her

1211
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:38,720
extracurricular activities? Was
there something going on?

1212
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:43,300
Adam Curry: I believe so. Yes, I
believe she's one of those world

1213
01:06:43,300 --> 01:06:46,960
favorite, yes, one of those.
And, and she's, you know, and

1214
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,440
Scott Galloway loves her, Oh, I
love me some Stephanie rules.

1215
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:56,920
She's the best. She's great with
her Starbucks. So I have some

1216
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,060
very one. I'm

1217
01:06:58,060 --> 01:06:59,980
John C Dvorak: glad you got
clips, because I looked at it, I

1218
01:06:59,980 --> 01:07:05,160
saw nothing but the same old,
same old middle class bull crap,

1219
01:07:05,580 --> 01:07:09,720
and I clipped nothing. I have
some, some overview clips. I

1220
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,600
Adam Curry: got some some some
shorties here, one one a little

1221
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:17,160
longer, and then some just short
ones, like 30 seconds. And the

1222
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,960
reason why I'm playing these is
I kind of realize, without

1223
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,440
saying it, on the last show we
talked about, am I racist, the

1224
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:31,340
Matt Walsh movie. And the beauty
of that movie is that when you

1225
01:07:31,340 --> 01:07:35,180
see it in context of the movie,
you see that America is not

1226
01:07:35,180 --> 01:07:39,800
racist. You see the Grifters who
have been gaslighting the

1227
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:45,400
gaslighting Grifters who have
made everyone to at least, at

1228
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,780
best, argue over whether America
is racist, and at worst, they

1229
01:07:49,780 --> 01:07:54,340
create the 1619 project. And oh,
we're the most racist. We're the

1230
01:07:54,340 --> 01:07:57,460
systemically racist, racist,
racist. But then you really look

1231
01:07:57,460 --> 01:08:01,920
at it like, this is not true.
This not true. And the same is

1232
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,580
with this Stephanie rule
interview. Kamala Harris is not

1233
01:08:05,580 --> 01:08:10,380
a threat to to the presidency.
She will not be president.

1234
01:08:10,380 --> 01:08:14,820
America will not vote for her.
This is just more gaslighting by

1235
01:08:14,820 --> 01:08:18,780
the media, and the worst part is
a lot of people who will not

1236
01:08:18,780 --> 01:08:25,100
vote for her, like, oh, Kamala
Bev is she wins. You make you're

1237
01:08:25,100 --> 01:08:29,180
making yourself crazy and ill
with this stuff. Let's just pull

1238
01:08:29,180 --> 01:08:32,240
it apart. Let's start with her
economic plan,

1239
01:08:32,300 --> 01:08:35,060
Unknown: madam, Vice President,
you just laid out your economic

1240
01:08:35,060 --> 01:08:38,840
vision for the future. But
still, there are lots of

1241
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:43,420
Americans who don't see
themselves in your plans. For

1242
01:08:43,420 --> 01:08:47,020
those who say these policies
aren't for me, what do you say

1243
01:08:47,020 --> 01:08:47,380
to them?

1244
01:08:48,819 --> 01:08:58,119
Well, if you are hardworking, if
you have dreams and the

1245
01:08:58,119 --> 01:09:04,139
ambitions and the aspirations of
what I believe you do, you're in

1246
01:09:04,139 --> 01:09:07,739
my plan. You know, I have to
tell you really, you

1247
01:09:07,740 --> 01:09:09,600
Adam Curry: can keep your
doctor. You're in my plan.

1248
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:15,780
Unknown: Love and I'm so
energized by what I know to be

1249
01:09:15,780 --> 01:09:18,540
the spirit and character of the
American people. We have

1250
01:09:18,540 --> 01:09:23,960
ambition, we have aspirations,
we have dreams. We can see

1251
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:29,120
what's possible. We have an
incredible work ethic, but not

1252
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:33,740
everyone has the access to the
opportunities that allow them to

1253
01:09:33,740 --> 01:09:37,580
achieve those things. But we
don't lack for those things, but

1254
01:09:37,580 --> 01:09:41,800
not everyone gets handed stuff
on a silver platter, and so my

1255
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,800
vision for the economy, I call
it an opportunity economy, is

1256
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:49,060
about making sure that all
Americans, wherever they start,

1257
01:09:49,060 --> 01:09:53,080
wherever they are, have the
ability to actually achieve

1258
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,440
those those dreams and those
ambitions, which include from

1259
01:09:56,440 --> 01:10:00,840
middle class families, just
being able to. Know that their

1260
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:05,520
hard work allows them to get
ahead, right? I think we can't,

1261
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,760
and we shouldn't aspire to have
an economy that just allows

1262
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,280
people to get by. People want to
do more than just get by. They

1263
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,880
want to get ahead. And I come
from the middle class. Oh, yeah.

1264
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:19,320
Adam Curry: So no American
watching this. Heard anything of

1265
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:25,280
any use zero. Okay, let's talk
about price gouging. Prices

1266
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,860
Unknown: are still high. I agree
with you. You said you want to

1267
01:10:27,860 --> 01:10:31,640
take this on by going after
those who engage in price

1268
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,780
gouging. But as somebody who
supports free markets, who's a

1269
01:10:35,780 --> 01:10:39,860
capitalist, how do you go after
price gouging without

1270
01:10:39,860 --> 01:10:43,180
implementing price controls,
because once we get in this

1271
01:10:43,180 --> 01:10:45,580
zone, people start to get
worried. And they say, I don't

1272
01:10:45,580 --> 01:10:46,840
know what she stands for.

1273
01:10:47,140 --> 01:10:49,840
So just to be very frank,

1274
01:10:50,980 --> 01:10:54,220
John C Dvorak: I am never what,
because she's lying. I

1275
01:10:54,220 --> 01:10:59,680
Unknown: apologize for going
after companies and corporations

1276
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,100
that take advantage of the
desperation of the American

1277
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:05,880
people. And as Attorney General,
I saw this happen. Oh yeah, in

1278
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,880
the midst of an emergency,
whether it be an extreme weather

1279
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,480
event or even the pandemic, we
saw it really, where those few

1280
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:13,980
companies, not the majority,

1281
01:11:13,980 --> 01:11:16,320
Adam Curry: not most, those are
the only companies you allowed

1282
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,380
to stay open, Madam Vice
President, but those

1283
01:11:19,380 --> 01:11:21,920
Unknown: few companies that
would take advantage of the

1284
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:26,240
desperation of people and jack
up prices, yeah, I'm going to go

1285
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:30,920
after them. Yes, I'm going to go
after them. And that is part of

1286
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,760
a much more comprehensive plan
on what we can do to bring down

1287
01:11:35,060 --> 01:11:38,840
the cost of living, including
housing, including the everyday

1288
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,540
needs of the American people.
Okay,

1289
01:11:40,540 --> 01:11:46,420
Adam Curry: so right on cue,
Elizabeth Warren and Senator Bob

1290
01:11:46,420 --> 01:11:52,660
Casey come out with a warning,
and we're sounding the alarm.

1291
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:57,340
Listen to this. Many grocery
chains, including Kroger, have

1292
01:11:57,340 --> 01:12:02,520
rapidly expanded their use of
ESL in recent years, are you

1293
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:09,720
familiar with ESL? ESL? Yes,
electronic shelf labels. So

1294
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:14,640
instead of some high school
student on Saturdays going

1295
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,920
around that would click, click,
click, click, click, click,

1296
01:12:16,980 --> 01:12:19,980
click, click. You remember we
used to look at the little price

1297
01:12:19,980 --> 01:12:23,480
tag and there'll be five
underneath it, because I just

1298
01:12:23,480 --> 01:12:27,440
put another price tag on top.
Yeah, yeah. So now they have a

1299
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:32,300
little digital readout that
gives you the price. And Kroger

1300
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:36,860
has been using this since 2018
and has since expanded it to 500

1301
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:42,760
stores nationwide. ESL may help,
may help Kroger extract maximum

1302
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,760
profits from consumers at a time
when Americans are dealing with

1303
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:50,620
the cost of grocery prices,
their margins are one to 2%

1304
01:12:51,700 --> 01:12:54,580
John C Dvorak: the margins in
the grocery store are close to

1305
01:12:54,580 --> 01:12:55,840
zero. But then

1306
01:12:55,900 --> 01:12:58,240
Adam Curry: Warren throws a
little more on top saying

1307
01:12:58,420 --> 01:13:04,380
dynamic pricing, which is okay,
well, all right, so now it's a

1308
01:13:04,380 --> 01:13:08,100
little faster, instead of the
college or the high school

1309
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:10,980
students putting stickers on
everything, all right, dynamic

1310
01:13:10,980 --> 01:13:15,240
pricing allows corporate
corporations to price gouge and

1311
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,900
suddenly raise the cost of goods
without warning. Kroger has also

1312
01:13:18,900 --> 01:13:22,700
proposed, proposed to place
facial recognition cameras on

1313
01:13:22,700 --> 01:13:25,520
its digital shelves that could
make different offers to

1314
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,580
shoppers based on their age,
gender, or potentially their

1315
01:13:28,580 --> 01:13:32,720
race and other personal
characteristics. They're going

1316
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,720
to be racist crap. Of course,
it's bull crap. But then,

1317
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,060
John C Dvorak: by the way,
dynamic pricing, which has been

1318
01:13:38,060 --> 01:13:41,560
in play in various industries,
especially the hotel industry

1319
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:48,520
since the 40s, decades, tends to
price lower. Yes. The idea is,

1320
01:13:48,820 --> 01:13:52,420
as you get near the end of the
shelf life, or whatever it might

1321
01:13:52,420 --> 01:13:55,960
be, in terms of a room available
at a hotel, tap it down. They

1322
01:13:55,960 --> 01:14:00,240
drop the price. They don't raise
the price. We're now, yes. Wait

1323
01:14:00,300 --> 01:14:03,120
just on the other hand, I will
say this, because dynamic

1324
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,440
pricing does take place in San
Francisco parking, the meters

1325
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:10,800
are all set up. So if there's a
Giants game, for example, in the

1326
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,680
area where there's some parking
meters, the price of the of an

1327
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,720
hour of parking will triple,
right?

1328
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,420
Adam Curry: But there's no
competition for the parking. If

1329
01:14:18,420 --> 01:14:24,020
you have competition, if you
have multiple stores, a Kroger

1330
01:14:24,020 --> 01:14:25,940
and an heb or whatever else

1331
01:14:25,940 --> 01:14:29,900
John C Dvorak: it is, yeah,
Publix, then Piggly Wiggly,

1332
01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:32,660
Adam Curry: Piggly Wiggly, it
will result in in price

1333
01:14:32,660 --> 01:14:36,980
lowering. That's how it works,
because people are price

1334
01:14:36,980 --> 01:14:41,500
conscious, but they're just
gaslighting. Oh, well, we need

1335
01:14:41,500 --> 01:14:48,760
price fixing. Oh, we can, and we
can't have that anyway. Madam

1336
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:55,000
VP, Madam VP, how are you going
to do me these taxes? You talk

1337
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,480
about the corporate tax and
everything, if Congress decides

1338
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:02,340
not to, not to pay? Pay for it.
After all, they do control the

1339
01:15:02,340 --> 01:15:04,020
purse strings, expanding

1340
01:15:04,020 --> 01:15:06,900
Unknown: that child tax credit.
Or you mentioned housing before

1341
01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:10,260
giving that extra money for a
first home if you can't raise

1342
01:15:10,260 --> 01:15:14,100
corporate taxes. Or if GOP takes
control of the Senate, where do

1343
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:17,160
you get the money to do that? Do
you still go forward those plans

1344
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:17,820
and borrow

1345
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,540
Adam Curry: what do you think
the answer is, what do you do?

1346
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,780
How, if you are the vice
president now President Harris,

1347
01:15:23,780 --> 01:15:28,040
John, what would you do if
Congress executive order? Well,

1348
01:15:28,580 --> 01:15:28,760
Unknown: but

1349
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,060
we're going to have to raise
corporate taxes, and we're going

1350
01:15:32,060 --> 01:15:36,500
to have to raise we're going to
have to make sure that the

1351
01:15:36,500 --> 01:15:40,180
biggest corporations and
billionaires pay their fair

1352
01:15:40,180 --> 01:15:43,420
share. That's just it. It's
about paying their fair share.

1353
01:15:43,420 --> 01:15:43,540
We're

1354
01:15:43,540 --> 01:15:45,940
Adam Curry: just gonna have to
do it. I have no idea how. We're

1355
01:15:45,940 --> 01:15:47,560
just gonna have to do it. You

1356
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,860
John C Dvorak: know, I don't
know how any politician, you

1357
01:15:50,860 --> 01:15:54,340
have to be an idiot. And this
woman is not the smartest person

1358
01:15:54,340 --> 01:15:57,820
I've ever seen running for
office. No, say the least. No,

1359
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:02,520
no. You have to be an idiot to
beat for part of your platform

1360
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,480
to be to raise taxes, because
that's all they want to take

1361
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:08,580
more money from you. I'm voting
for her. It

1362
01:16:08,580 --> 01:16:11,400
Adam Curry: always works. It
always works. Now let's do a

1363
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,860
little fact check. Just a fact
check, because

1364
01:16:13,860 --> 01:16:19,140
Unknown: your opponent no such
thing as a little fair, because

1365
01:16:19,140 --> 01:16:21,980
your opponent, almost every day
seems to be talking about this.

1366
01:16:21,980 --> 01:16:25,100
So I just want to ask you, yes
or no at any point in your life,

1367
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:29,540
have you served to all beef
patties, special sauce, lettuce,

1368
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,740
cheese, onions on a sesame seed
bun, looking at a McDonald's yes

1369
01:16:33,740 --> 01:16:36,680
or no? Okay? Now the other job,

1370
01:16:37,340 --> 01:16:41,140
it was not a small job like you
know,

1371
01:16:42,820 --> 01:16:46,480
Adam Curry: okay, she sticks to
it. There's no evidence. And of

1372
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:50,920
course, Trump is making a big
joke out of it continuously. And

1373
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,060
then the New World.

1374
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:56,020
John C Dvorak: Wait, I hate to
have you back this up, but what

1375
01:16:56,020 --> 01:16:58,480
did, how did she describe what
she was doing? Because

1376
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:00,780
Adam Curry: she was standing
over the fries. She was in

1377
01:17:00,780 --> 01:17:03,840
charge of the fries in that
clip. In that clip, yes, she

1378
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,760
says it the end. You want to
hear it again.

1379
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,960
Unknown: If you can play it
again, I'd like to hear it

1380
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:10,440
again. Yeah, I'll

1381
01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:11,460
Adam Curry: play the the answer.

1382
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,360
Unknown: Have you served to all
beef patties, special sauce,

1383
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,200
lettuce, cheese pickers, onions
on a sesame seed bun, looking at

1384
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,700
a McDonald's yes or no, that's
it. I have okay. Now the other

1385
01:17:22,700 --> 01:17:23,000
job,

1386
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,500
it was not a small job, like I
do fries. I mean, I, you know,

1387
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,020
Adam Curry: she dunked fries

1388
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:32,180
John C Dvorak: a small job,

1389
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,340
Adam Curry: but you know, the
question that she asks is, have

1390
01:17:34,340 --> 01:17:38,720
you ever, at any point in your
life? I'm sure, as a politician,

1391
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,520
she's probably served people at
McDonald's. Everyone does it

1392
01:17:43,180 --> 01:17:46,240
like, Hi, can I take your order?
I'm a politician working at

1393
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,680
McDonald's. I'm just like you,
so she's probably not actually

1394
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:54,820
lying. But you know, the risk
the original claim was that I

1395
01:17:54,820 --> 01:17:57,700
worked at McDonald's. I come
from a middle class family in

1396
01:17:57,700 --> 01:18:02,400
Canada. Here's the new word, the
new word of the day. You'll hear

1397
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,800
it three times in 27 seconds.

1398
01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:08,280
Unknown: Some of the work is
going to be through what we do

1399
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,760
in terms of giving benefits and
assistance to state local

1400
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,000
governments around transit
dollars, and looking

1401
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:19,560
holistically at the connection
between that and housing and

1402
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,220
looking holistically at the
incentives we in the federal

1403
01:18:22,220 --> 01:18:25,040
government can create for local
and state governments to

1404
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,760
actually engage in planning in
holistic manner that includes

1405
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,880
prioritizing affordable housing
for working people.

1406
01:18:32,780 --> 01:18:35,120
Adam Curry: So I can tell you
from firsthand experience, if

1407
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,760
you're in a Silicon Valley
meeting and someone's pitching

1408
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,160
the company and they say they're
going to do something

1409
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,240
holistically, the checkbook goes
back into the bag.

1410
01:18:43,780 --> 01:18:47,920
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Now I
watched this too. Now this

1411
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:53,980
holistically thing always came
with a hand gesture, yes, a

1412
01:18:53,980 --> 01:18:58,420
round ball. And the hand
gestures is the same as the

1413
01:18:58,420 --> 01:19:05,640
gesture of turning the page. You
have a call. I do. It's the same

1414
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,920
as turning the page. I'm gonna
go hang that up. Yeah, okay, let

1415
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,580
Adam Curry: me go hang it. Hang
it up. It's the same as turning

1416
01:19:11,580 --> 01:19:18,060
the page. Yes, he's walking to
the other side of the office. Be

1417
01:19:18,060 --> 01:19:21,860
careful. Don't trip on any of
those piles. Could be very

1418
01:19:21,860 --> 01:19:26,360
painful. If we hear cans, then
we know John has fallen.

1419
01:19:28,820 --> 01:19:31,160
Unknown: Hello, nobody there.

1420
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,060
Adam Curry: Okay, why don't you,
can I Why don't you have the

1421
01:19:35,060 --> 01:19:36,500
phone near your desk?

1422
01:19:36,860 --> 01:19:39,980
John C Dvorak: I have to it is
near my desk. This is this

1423
01:19:39,980 --> 01:19:44,500
podcasting section of the office
is not the desk. Oh, okay, all

1424
01:19:44,500 --> 01:19:47,440
right. But yes, it's turning the
page she wants. She has that

1425
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:52,840
hand motion and and it's like
Pavlovian, so the holistic

1426
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:56,380
motion is exactly the same as
her, and she's kind of dropped

1427
01:19:56,380 --> 01:20:00,060
turning the page. But she loves
that hand. It's like a. Oh,

1428
01:20:00,060 --> 01:20:03,180
these are not the drones. I
mean, it's just like this hand

1429
01:20:03,180 --> 01:20:08,280
movement, yeah, yeah. It's done
for some, some Neuro Linguistic

1430
01:20:08,340 --> 01:20:11,400
Programming, like reason, yes,
yes.

1431
01:20:13,140 --> 01:20:16,740
Adam Curry: Well, then the, just
the final clip, 11 seconds. This

1432
01:20:16,740 --> 01:20:18,600
is the only question we really
care about.

1433
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,580
Unknown: Can we trust you?
Dudes?

1434
01:20:22,260 --> 01:20:23,240
Adam Curry: Dudes, yeah. Yes,

1435
01:20:23,480 --> 01:20:27,620
Unknown: I am not perfect, yeah,
yeah, but I will tell you, I'm

1436
01:20:27,620 --> 01:20:30,320
always going to put the needs of
the people first. Yeah,

1437
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,720
Adam Curry: that's right. You
can trust me. Trust me that even

1438
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,540
mean, I don't know, but you can.
She puts the means of the people

1439
01:20:35,540 --> 01:20:43,540
first. This is this woman is so
bad that even Eva mckend on CNN

1440
01:20:43,540 --> 01:20:47,620
is like, no, no, no, no. And of
course, she's black, so the

1441
01:20:47,620 --> 01:20:50,140
panel couldn't say anything to
her, because it's about

1442
01:20:50,140 --> 01:20:51,220
immigration. The Vice

1443
01:20:51,220 --> 01:20:53,920
Unknown: President has a long
history, a well documented

1444
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,220
history, of really being an ally
to these immigrant communities.

1445
01:20:57,460 --> 01:21:00,960
She has two chapters in her
book, I say we fight and we are

1446
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,140
better than this, where she
really makes a robust case for

1447
01:21:04,140 --> 01:21:07,620
undocumented immigrants. During
the Trump administration, she

1448
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:12,060
talked about a climate of fear.
She dismissed the border wall as

1449
01:21:12,060 --> 01:21:16,620
ineffective and a waste of
resources, and so and even her

1450
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,040
guest at the joint session of
Congress was a DACA recipient,

1451
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,320
was a dreamer, and so for her to
go down there and characterize

1452
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:28,940
herself as tough on the border,
it, to me, it isn't consistent

1453
01:21:28,940 --> 01:21:31,760
with a lot of the policy
positions that she previously

1454
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:32,960
has espoused. Yeah,

1455
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,680
Adam Curry: exactly. She's a
liar. She's a liar. Everybody

1456
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:42,880
knows it, but yet everyone's
also worked up over her. And

1457
01:21:42,940 --> 01:21:45,520
well, they're gonna steal the
election. You know, you think

1458
01:21:45,940 --> 01:21:50,020
people would think that they the
Republicans are pretty dumb, I

1459
01:21:50,020 --> 01:21:56,320
mean, or as dumb as anyone else.
They are pretty dumb. But when

1460
01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:03,180
it comes to, when it comes to
these elections, now, they have

1461
01:22:03,180 --> 01:22:07,020
also figured some stuff out. Let
me see, I think it's yeah. This

1462
01:22:07,020 --> 01:22:08,040
is CBS. Just

1463
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,500
Unknown: as vice president
Kamala Harris arrived seeking

1464
01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:14,040
new altitude in this
battleground state. A Georgia

1465
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,040
State election board controlled
by former President Donald Trump

1466
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,200
supporters is causing turbulence
just more than six weeks until

1467
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,200
election day, three Republicans,
who hold a majority on the

1468
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:28,280
board, voted to change the rules
for handling ballots, requiring

1469
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,880
poll workers at each precinct in
Georgia's 159 counties to

1470
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:35,540
conduct a hand count of all the
ballots on election night, in

1471
01:22:35,540 --> 01:22:39,020
addition to the traditional
machine count Trump ally Janelle

1472
01:22:39,020 --> 01:22:39,500
King,

1473
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:44,440
what I don't Want to do is set a
precedent that we are okay with

1474
01:22:44,440 --> 01:22:46,360
speed over accuracy.

1475
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:50,020
I don't see any danger in Han
County. If the complaint is

1476
01:22:50,020 --> 01:22:52,480
that, you know, I just don't
want to stay there an extra

1477
01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:55,780
hour. That's just not a good
enough complaint for me, an

1478
01:22:55,780 --> 01:22:59,680
idea opponents blistered as an
attempt to slow the vote count.

1479
01:22:59,860 --> 01:23:03,300
We are talking about all these
last minute changes, and it

1480
01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:07,020
makes me question whether
members of this board are

1481
01:23:07,020 --> 01:23:09,180
operating in good faith. Others

1482
01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:12,900
said it will cost millions of
dollars to hire additional

1483
01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:13,980
workers. Say again,

1484
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,680
John C Dvorak: I said they're
they're acting, not acting in

1485
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,860
good faith by asking for a hand.
It's

1486
01:23:19,860 --> 01:23:24,380
Unknown: ridiculous changes, and
it makes me question whether

1487
01:23:24,380 --> 01:23:27,680
members of this board are
operating in good faith.

1488
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,500
Others said it will cost
millions of dollars to hire and

1489
01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:34,940
train additional workers and sow
distrust in the results and

1490
01:23:34,940 --> 01:23:39,020
delay tabulation of final
results by days or weeks. I

1491
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:40,280
brought with me 1872

1492
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,280
pages of paper representing what
a stack of ballots could look

1493
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,080
like on a busy counting day. All

1494
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,540
the top Republicans in the
state, including the governor,

1495
01:23:49,540 --> 01:23:52,000
have criticized the board's
actions, accusing them of

1496
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,380
exceeding their authority in
making 11th hour changes. Trump,

1497
01:23:56,380 --> 01:23:59,020
meanwhile has lauded and thanked
the board members for

1498
01:23:59,020 --> 01:24:00,340
considering new rules.

1499
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,000
They're on fire. They're doing a
great job.

1500
01:24:04,260 --> 01:24:06,840
Adam Curry: So, you know, the
Republicans are doing their bit

1501
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:12,900
too. They're trying to stop the
steal of course, although then I

1502
01:24:12,900 --> 01:24:16,380
hate to say it, because I met
him and I kind of like the guy,

1503
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:22,640
Mike Lindell, put his foot in
it, Mr. My pillow guy. This is

1504
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,560
dynamic pricing at its worst.

1505
01:24:24,620 --> 01:24:27,620
Unknown: My pillow founder Mike
Lindell is known for supporting

1506
01:24:27,620 --> 01:24:31,160
conspiracy theories, including
backing Donald Trump's false

1507
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:32,180
claims that

1508
01:24:32,180 --> 01:24:35,300
John C Dvorak: he won the 2020
election, not a false claim.

1509
01:24:35,540 --> 01:24:38,480
Unknown: And now more eyebrows
are raising, Lindell has put his

1510
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:44,380
pillows on sale for 1488 is that
a bargain price or a secret

1511
01:24:44,380 --> 01:24:47,020
signal to Neo Nazis? A new

1512
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,800
controversy for the my pillow
guy for allegedly sending coded

1513
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,700
messages to white supremacists
and Neo Nazis for having the

1514
01:24:54,700 --> 01:24:58,720
biggest my pillow sale ever.
It's a new ad for my pillow for

1515
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:03,840
$14 paying. 88 cents. The
numbers 14 and 88 are common

1516
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:08,400
symbols among hate groups. 14
stands for a 14 word slogan

1517
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:12,420
embraced by white supremacists.
The number 88 is alleged to be

1518
01:25:12,420 --> 01:25:16,560
an abbreviation for Heil Hitler,
since H is the eighth letter of

1519
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,660
the alphabet, dog whistle goes
this comment on social media.

1520
01:25:20,660 --> 01:25:23,600
This is intentional, but not
everyone is seeing the

1521
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,620
connection. Such a stretch goes
this comment, we reached out to

1522
01:25:27,620 --> 01:25:30,740
my pillow CEO Mike Lindell, who
was featured in all his

1523
01:25:30,740 --> 01:25:34,460
company's ads, but got no
response. Lindell is known for

1524
01:25:34,460 --> 01:25:37,280
pushing debunked conspiracy
theories today.

1525
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,620
Lindell denies the price stock

1526
01:25:39,620 --> 01:25:43,960
John C Dvorak: to clip, so
they're condemning Lindell for

1527
01:25:44,260 --> 01:25:47,500
for accepting conspiracy
theories with false claims,

1528
01:25:47,500 --> 01:25:52,540
whatever it is, while the whole
exposition here is a conspiracy

1529
01:25:52,540 --> 01:25:57,460
theory, it's very much they know
that they're like expressing a

1530
01:25:57,460 --> 01:25:59,500
conspiracy theory. It's

1531
01:25:59,500 --> 01:26:02,700
Adam Curry: a call to the Neo
Nazis. John, all the Nazis are

1532
01:26:02,700 --> 01:26:06,420
buying pillows because we're
going to do a pillow fight. I

1533
01:26:06,420 --> 01:26:10,260
don't even know what it means.
Well, I do actually the 14

1534
01:26:10,260 --> 01:26:14,160
words, according to the book of
knowledge, is a reference to two

1535
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:18,360
slogans originated by David Eden
lane, one of the nine founding

1536
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,560
members of the defunct white
supremacist terrorist

1537
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:27,560
organization, the order and our
this is so deep and I want you

1538
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:32,120
to order a pillow. Yes, order.
The order is, get a pillow and

1539
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:35,360
our company by Lane's 88
precepts. The slogans have

1540
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,660
served as a rallying cry for
militant white nationalists.

1541
01:26:38,660 --> 01:26:42,820
Internationally, the primary
slogan, ready for the 14 words,

1542
01:26:44,020 --> 01:26:48,220
we must secure the existence of
our people and our future for

1543
01:26:48,220 --> 01:26:53,680
white children, followed by the
secondary slogan, because the

1544
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:57,220
beauty of the white Aryan woman
must not perish from the earth.

1545
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,700
Talk about a conspiracy theory
of a guy who's a conspiracy

1546
01:27:02,700 --> 01:27:07,680
theorist, Mike, Mike, Mike,
Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, it's an

1547
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:08,520
odd number 214,

1548
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:09,660
Unknown: believable. What

1549
01:27:09,660 --> 01:27:12,240
Adam Curry: happened to 1499 I
mean, that was, well,

1550
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:16,860
John C Dvorak: 14, yeah, four.
He could have done 1495 which go

1551
01:27:16,860 --> 01:27:17,220
number

1552
01:27:17,220 --> 01:27:21,020
Adam Curry: could have done
anything. But I guess now it

1553
01:27:21,020 --> 01:27:21,500
probably,

1554
01:27:21,500 --> 01:27:23,240
John C Dvorak: you know
somebody, you know, I always

1555
01:27:23,300 --> 01:27:28,400
suspect there's somebody that
else that does this just to kind

1556
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:29,360
of set him up.

1557
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,680
Adam Curry: Oh, very possible,
because he's, he's not a guy

1558
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:37,100
that would he's, he seemed,
really seems like a, just a nice

1559
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:38,480
guy, yeah,

1560
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,080
John C Dvorak: he doesn't have
any of the earmarks of any sort

1561
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:45,640
of nutty white supremacist. So
this is like, no, I got a great

1562
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,760
idea this year, 1488, Okay,
sounds good.

1563
01:27:50,020 --> 01:27:51,880
Adam Curry: Hey, that's good.
That's a good price. We'll make

1564
01:27:52,060 --> 01:27:52,360
a nice

1565
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,600
Unknown: profit. Meanwhile,

1566
01:27:56,740 --> 01:27:58,240
John C Dvorak: that's a good
price for that pillow.

1567
01:27:58,420 --> 01:27:59,440
Adam Curry: It's best price

1568
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,000
John C Dvorak: is Chinese,
supposed to be coming in from

1569
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,440
somewhere else. Meanwhile,

1570
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:09,240
Adam Curry: I started getting
emails people, just like they're

1571
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,700
texting me. They're not texting
me, they're sending me emails

1572
01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:16,140
like text messages. This is
crazy. No link, oh, I can't

1573
01:28:16,140 --> 01:28:21,020
believe this. No link. Like
five, six in a row. Yeah, I

1574
01:28:21,020 --> 01:28:23,120
John C Dvorak: didn't get these.
Well, no,

1575
01:28:23,180 --> 01:28:25,400
Adam Curry: they can't spell
your last name. It's very

1576
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:31,280
difficult to find dvorak.org
they send it to dvorak.com and

1577
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:38,000
it was another zoom call this
time we of course, we had black

1578
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:42,100
women for Harris, we had white
dudes for Harris. We had

1579
01:28:42,220 --> 01:28:47,020
Christians for Harris. We had
more celebrities people don't

1580
01:28:47,020 --> 01:28:51,700
care about anymore for Harris.
We had comedians for Harris, and

1581
01:28:51,700 --> 01:28:59,020
now we had geeks and nerds for
Harris, which is really should

1582
01:28:59,020 --> 01:29:05,460
be watched, and I will only play
you the opening sequence, as

1583
01:29:05,460 --> 01:29:11,580
they brought in Wonder Woman,
Linda Carter to host this

1584
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:18,360
fabulous call. This was a
mistake. I don't know if she's

1585
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:24,200
drunk. I don't know if this is
just how she is, but a host of a

1586
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:25,940
zoom call, she is not

1587
01:29:26,300 --> 01:29:30,380
Unknown: good evening, and
welcome to geeks and nerds for

1588
01:29:30,380 --> 01:29:35,300
Harris, I am Linda Carter, and
I'm thrilled to be here to

1589
01:29:35,300 --> 01:29:40,060
support our brilliant vice
president Kamala Harris. We are

1590
01:29:40,060 --> 01:29:45,520
here tonight for duty for our
country, for our freedoms, for

1591
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:53,260
justice, equality and community.
I am here with you today, that

1592
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:59,440
and to share the joy and hope
with people I adore, geeks and

1593
01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:02,100
the nerves. Words of America,

1594
01:30:03,900 --> 01:30:05,880
America the curious

1595
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:10,500
club of kooky collaborators
coming together for Kamala

1596
01:30:10,500 --> 01:30:17,520
Harris. That's why we need you
to rise up and defend our

1597
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:21,560
democracy by getting out the
vote for Kamala Harris and Tim

1598
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:27,800
walls, tonight, we'll be joined
by dozens of geek and nerd icons

1599
01:30:27,860 --> 01:30:28,940
from Tina, like

1600
01:30:28,940 --> 01:30:35,120
Adam Curry: LeVar Burton. Oh, I
mean, no, how come they don't do

1601
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,540
love island for Harris, that
would people would watch that

1602
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,160
Unknown: they would love Island
drunk.

1603
01:30:42,220 --> 01:30:46,480
Adam Curry: She does sound
drunk. No, what real Americans

1604
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:49,780
are talking about is what's
happening in their cities. The

1605
01:30:49,780 --> 01:30:52,960
rents too high. That guy,
Where's the guy with the boot on

1606
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,660
his head? That guy's so good was
that? No, that's a different

1607
01:30:55,660 --> 01:30:55,840
guy.

1608
01:30:56,860 --> 01:30:59,260
John C Dvorak: He's the
original. Rents too high. Guy's

1609
01:30:59,260 --> 01:31:00,360
dead, the free

1610
01:31:00,420 --> 01:31:02,700
Adam Curry: the guy with the
boot on his head is everyone

1611
01:31:02,700 --> 01:31:10,440
gets a pony. I like him. So
Chicago is in disarray. I mean,

1612
01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:14,880
there's, there's people who grew
up in Chicago and people sending

1613
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:19,440
me sub stacks, and it, it's
just, it's horrible. What has

1614
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:27,680
happened to this city, and now
we have the TDA. Was it? Trenda

1615
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:35,240
Aragua, the Venezuelan gang, and
I believe this to be true. It

1616
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:40,840
may be exaggerated here, but
they're coming in and the

1617
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:44,020
Chicago gangs who have been
killing each other, you know, I

1618
01:31:44,020 --> 01:31:48,100
know 30 people a weekend.
They're like, Oh, what they do?

1619
01:31:48,100 --> 01:31:53,080
Hold on a second. You can't come
in here and take our turf. So

1620
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:56,320
now we're going to see we had,
like the I think I heard Darren

1621
01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:00,660
say they had 37 people shot last
weekend. You didn't really hear

1622
01:32:00,660 --> 01:32:04,020
about it. Of course, of course,
course, not with three dead,

1623
01:32:04,020 --> 01:32:06,960
four dead, Darren said they're
doing great. It's moving ahead

1624
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,560
just beautifully in Chicago.
He's in Chicago. So here's a

1625
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:11,880
former gang member. So

1626
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,880
Unknown: Venezuelan gang members
moving into Chicago have caught

1627
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,300
the attention of the city's
local counterparts, bringing

1628
01:32:18,300 --> 01:32:21,380
tensions to an all time high.
Our next guest is a former gang

1629
01:32:21,380 --> 01:32:24,980
member who now runs a violence
prevention program and warns

1630
01:32:24,980 --> 01:32:28,700
that the city may go up in
flames, fearing an all out turf

1631
01:32:28,700 --> 01:32:33,320
war. Explain to us what's
happening on the ground. So

1632
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:38,780
let me just say this, we just
heard about vice president who

1633
01:32:38,780 --> 01:32:43,360
says she She specialized in
locking up and arresting

1634
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:49,480
transnational gangs, while the
very party that she's a part of

1635
01:32:49,660 --> 01:32:55,900
the policies with the sanctuary
cities and the border crisis she

1636
01:32:55,900 --> 01:33:01,320
support and now the influx of is
which is oxymoronic at the same

1637
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:05,880
time. Now we have to fight
transnational games and the

1638
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:11,100
influx of these men who we don't
know where they come, what

1639
01:33:11,100 --> 01:33:14,700
crimes they committed, and the
violence that they've been

1640
01:33:14,700 --> 01:33:18,720
involved with thus far. With
that being said, we're on the

1641
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:23,300
front line every day making sure
that our communities are safe.

1642
01:33:23,480 --> 01:33:26,240
And it's really not about the
black community. This is just

1643
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:29,900
the beginning, because violence
anywhere is violence everywhere.

1644
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:34,580
America should be afraid that
this can happen in America's

1645
01:33:34,580 --> 01:33:37,940
cities, one of the biggest
cities, most tourists, one of

1646
01:33:37,940 --> 01:33:42,100
the biggest tourists, attracting
cities in the country, that we

1647
01:33:42,100 --> 01:33:47,440
can watch this happen all over
the country and not be outraged.

1648
01:33:47,500 --> 01:33:50,440
And this is the policies, sir,
this is what I'm saying,

1649
01:33:50,440 --> 01:33:55,180
Lawrence, it's the policies that
has affected our community and

1650
01:33:55,180 --> 01:33:59,680
has turned black people, black
communities, against the current

1651
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:00,720
administration. You

1652
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,780
know what? Tyrone? You hit it on
the head. That's right.

1653
01:34:03,780 --> 01:34:07,080
Adam Curry: Tyrone, oxymoronic
is probably the best show title

1654
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:08,160
I've heard in a while. I've

1655
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:11,460
John C Dvorak: read it, wrote it
down. It's so good, oxymoronic,

1656
01:34:12,300 --> 01:34:16,260
Adam Curry: but it's true. This
is what everybody's seeing. You

1657
01:34:16,260 --> 01:34:22,280
know, I just don't I want people
to calm down, stop watching your

1658
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:26,540
social media feed. There's
nothing, nothing to be afraid of

1659
01:34:26,540 --> 01:34:30,320
here. And besides, we're not
going to vote our way out of the

1660
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,920
mess we got out. We got a lot
more, lot more to do. It's not

1661
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:38,120
just, not just who's president.
It won't help if Harris ever

1662
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,800
became president, but it's not
going to happen, and she's so

1663
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:46,180
lame she's not even showing up
to the Al Smith dinner.

1664
01:34:46,780 --> 01:34:48,700
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was
pretty lame if you're a

1665
01:34:48,700 --> 01:34:50,140
Democrat, but I

1666
01:34:50,140 --> 01:34:53,920
Adam Curry: mean, the Al Smith
dinner is fantastic. Now, this

1667
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:59,740
has been around for a long time,
and the best one I'd look I

1668
01:34:59,740 --> 01:35:01,980
don't. We didn't have any clips,
or at least I couldn't find

1669
01:35:01,980 --> 01:35:05,640
anything labeled. Is when Trump
and Clinton were both there, and

1670
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,240
he was busting on her and she
was busting on him. And it was

1671
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:13,020
funny, it was and of course, the
media is like, whoa. The Trump

1672
01:35:13,020 --> 01:35:17,220
is not funny. He's no good, and
now she's not even gonna show

1673
01:35:17,220 --> 01:35:20,660
up. Here's Cardinal Dolan. Why
is he an important piece of

1674
01:35:20,660 --> 01:35:23,780
this? Is it some kind of
religious dinner?

1675
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,260
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
We're

1676
01:35:27,260 --> 01:35:30,920
Unknown: disappointed. We were
looking forward to giving the

1677
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:35,360
vice president an enthusiastic
welcome, and we kind of, we were

1678
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:39,680
confident that she would find
this you know, she speaks very

1679
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:43,180
much about the high ideals and
how it's good to get away from

1680
01:35:43,180 --> 01:35:46,000
division and come together in
unity and all. That's what the L

1681
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,060
Smith dinner is all about. We
haven't given up yet. We're not

1682
01:35:49,060 --> 01:35:51,280
used to this. We don't know how
to handle it. This hasn't

1683
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:55,240
happened in 40 years, since
Walter Mondale turned down the

1684
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:58,900
invitation, and remember, he
lost 49 out of 50 states. I

1685
01:35:58,900 --> 01:36:02,040
always say there's a direct
connection there, but so we're

1686
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:05,880
not used to this, and we're not
giving up. You know, who's been

1687
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,460
a help to us? Lauren is the
Senator Schumer and Governor

1688
01:36:08,460 --> 01:36:12,300
Hochul they're both. They both
are working hard to see that

1689
01:36:12,300 --> 01:36:16,080
they convince her to come still
a chance. Yeah, Senator Schumer

1690
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,380
said to me, I he said, I don't
think she made the decision. I

1691
01:36:19,380 --> 01:36:24,560
think her schedule is saying she
can't make it, so we hope she's

1692
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:24,800
here.

1693
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:28,220
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, yeah.
Schedule. She doesn't do

1694
01:36:28,220 --> 01:36:30,920
anything, she doesn't have
interviews or do much of

1695
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:34,400
anything, but her schedule has
interfered with this shirt.

1696
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,220
Adam Curry: I thought that this
election cycle our fourth now in

1697
01:36:37,220 --> 01:36:40,040
the life of the show, I thought
it was going to be really sick

1698
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:43,060
of it, but it's kind of taken an
interesting twist. This is,

1699
01:36:43,060 --> 01:36:46,060
they're all different. This is
very different because this is

1700
01:36:46,060 --> 01:36:49,840
not a serious candidate. She's
just not,

1701
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,860
John C Dvorak: yeah, she does,
you know, in fact, she's lazy.

1702
01:36:53,860 --> 01:36:58,180
We've discussed this, yes and
yes. This is just too much work.

1703
01:36:58,180 --> 01:37:01,020
At some point she goes, I want
to go to this thing for

1704
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,520
Adam Curry: if I don't want to,
I just, I can't talk, don't want

1705
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:10,140
to do this. And you follow the
whole Janet Jackson thing that

1706
01:37:10,140 --> 01:37:10,980
was pretty funny.

1707
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:15,180
Unknown: Yes, I did. She's not
black. Yeah, she

1708
01:37:15,180 --> 01:37:18,120
Adam Curry: not, she not black.
And the view, of course, had to

1709
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:23,180
have a whole long conversation
about it. If you want to hear

1710
01:37:23,180 --> 01:37:27,080
that or not, you got that? Of
course, I got it. You want to

1711
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:28,820
hear it first, let's play the

1712
01:37:29,180 --> 01:37:32,000
John C Dvorak: actually, we
should probably protest view

1713
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:32,480
clips.

1714
01:37:32,780 --> 01:37:35,420
Unknown: Janet Jackson is not
backing down from the wild

1715
01:37:35,420 --> 01:37:39,560
statements she made about Kamala
Harris. She's not black. Jackson

1716
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,640
told The Guardian newspaper, her
father's white. That's what I

1717
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,760
was told. I was told that they
discovered her father was white.

1718
01:37:45,820 --> 01:37:50,140
Harris's father is black. He was
born in Jamaica, but Jackson

1719
01:37:50,140 --> 01:37:53,980
insisted on repeating the wacky
conspiracy theory first raised

1720
01:37:53,980 --> 01:37:55,900
by Donald Trump seven weeks ago.
I

1721
01:37:55,900 --> 01:37:59,500
didn't know she was black until
a number of years ago, when she

1722
01:37:59,500 --> 01:38:02,580
happened to turn black, and now
she wants to be known as Black.

1723
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,400
Adam Curry: That's also not
true. The wacky conspiracy

1724
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,260
theory came up years ago.

1725
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,220
John C Dvorak: They came up
years ago, and that Trump clip

1726
01:38:11,220 --> 01:38:14,580
is out of context. Yes,
completely out of context.

1727
01:38:14,580 --> 01:38:17,040
Adam Curry: Anyway, here we go,
ladies and gentlemen, stand by,

1728
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:18,960
because we're going to give you
a trigger warning

1729
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,880
Unknown: at the tone a clip from
the view will be played shelter

1730
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:23,600
in place.

1731
01:38:24,860 --> 01:38:29,300
Superstar Janet Jackson just did
a wide ranging interview with

1732
01:38:29,300 --> 01:38:34,280
British newspaper The Guardian.
But most of the focus is on when

1733
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:38,660
she was asked her thoughts on VP
Kamala Harris possibly become

1734
01:38:38,660 --> 01:38:42,280
the first black female
president, she said she answered

1735
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:47,020
by saying that she had heard
that Harris's father was white,

1736
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,800
which we all know is false, and
a staffer claims that he was

1737
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:55,540
fired for issuing an apology in
her name and that her team

1738
01:38:55,540 --> 01:38:59,980
certified he wasn't authorized
to speak on her behalf. Now

1739
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,960
Jackson has not responded to
requests for comment. But no

1740
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:08,940
matter how you feel about celebs
speaking out politically, you

1741
01:39:08,940 --> 01:39:12,720
know, is it okay to for somebody
to say, you know, I'm in you

1742
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:14,760
know, I don't know, I made a
mistake?

1743
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,120
Well, she hasn't said that. She
made a mistake. We don't know

1744
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:20,880
what she said, because it's been
one thing and another. It's

1745
01:39:20,940 --> 01:39:25,460
Adam Curry: Anna Navarro. I
There's something dirty about

1746
01:39:25,460 --> 01:39:29,600
listening to the view, just you
feel just scuzzy, you know what?

1747
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:33,500
I mean, just like this, like a
filth, dirt just comes over you

1748
01:39:33,500 --> 01:39:33,920
and like,

1749
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,500
John C Dvorak: it's a creepy
show. Yes? Look, I

1750
01:39:36,500 --> 01:39:37,940
Unknown: think Janet Jackson,
like the

1751
01:39:37,940 --> 01:39:39,920
John C Dvorak: guests are all
creeps, yeah.

1752
01:39:39,980 --> 01:39:41,500
Adam Curry: Well, here's Anna
because, you know, they had a

1753
01:39:41,500 --> 01:39:42,760
whole conversation about this.

1754
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,280
Unknown: Every other American,
whether you're a celebrity or

1755
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:50,920
not, has a right to endorse,
support or not support whomever

1756
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,860
they want. So she's got every
right to not like Kamala Harris

1757
01:39:53,860 --> 01:39:56,260
if she doesn't want to. But
that's not what she said. What

1758
01:39:56,260 --> 01:40:00,420
she doesn't know, what she did
was spread misinformation. Oh,

1759
01:40:00,420 --> 01:40:02,820
and I think it's very
irresponsible when you have a

1760
01:40:02,820 --> 01:40:06,300
platform the way Janet Jackson
does, platform to use that

1761
01:40:06,300 --> 01:40:06,960
platform.

1762
01:40:07,260 --> 01:40:08,280
Adam Curry: Janet Jackson

1763
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:11,160
John C Dvorak: has a platform
does this, what is the name of

1764
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:12,360
this platform? Janet

1765
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,640
Adam Curry: social is the name
of her platform

1766
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:19,440
Unknown: to spread
misinformation based on a racist

1767
01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:23,300
allegation by Donald Trump,
right? It was Donald Trump who

1768
01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:26,540
tried to say Kamala Harris just
turned black. So let's just go

1769
01:40:26,540 --> 01:40:30,620
through the 101 Kamala Harris
101 is the daughter of two

1770
01:40:30,620 --> 01:40:34,580
immigrants. Her mother is South
Asian from India. Her father is

1771
01:40:34,580 --> 01:40:39,140
black from Jamaica. Here is a
picture for all of you who need

1772
01:40:39,440 --> 01:40:43,180
or for Miss Jackson, if you're
nasty, you're the damage.

1773
01:40:44,440 --> 01:40:47,140
I feel like a picture of Kamala
also would have Kamala Harris

1774
01:40:47,140 --> 01:40:48,160
would have done the trick. But

1775
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,920
Adam Curry: what's so great
about this is this, this

1776
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:55,840
particular brand of gaslighting
is by looking at the nuance.

1777
01:40:56,080 --> 01:41:00,960
What it meant is meant by black.
You know, when we say black in

1778
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:08,580
America, we typically mean ados,
American descent of slavery.

1779
01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:14,040
That's what Black is, and that's
what Barack Obama was not

1780
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:20,120
Michelle Obama was is. She's got
other identity issues. So

1781
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:24,140
they're really just, they're
really just, you know, cut

1782
01:41:24,140 --> 01:41:29,060
splitting hairs here over skin
color. This is the real racism.

1783
01:41:29,300 --> 01:41:31,820
John C Dvorak: Yep, this is,
this is, this is systemic

1784
01:41:31,820 --> 01:41:33,500
racism. On this show, the

1785
01:41:33,500 --> 01:41:36,200
Adam Curry: view is systemically
racist. Listen,

1786
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,860
Unknown: we forget that we live
in information silos. This is so

1787
01:41:39,860 --> 01:41:42,700
different than how the media was
even 10 years ago, where people

1788
01:41:42,700 --> 01:41:45,940
largely got their news and their
information from legacy media,

1789
01:41:45,940 --> 01:41:47,140
where there was a level, what

1790
01:41:47,140 --> 01:41:51,040
Adam Curry: are you, lady? What
is legacy media compared to the

1791
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,260
view your legacy media level

1792
01:41:53,260 --> 01:41:56,320
Unknown: of objectivity and a
fact check involved? So if you,

1793
01:41:56,320 --> 01:42:00,300
perhaps, for an example, get all
your news on Facebook, and you

1794
01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:03,840
lean right of center, that
algorithm is monetizing going to

1795
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:07,140
tee up information that
reinforces your own beliefs. If

1796
01:42:07,140 --> 01:42:10,620
you're a Trump supporter online,
you very likely won't encounter

1797
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:13,860
ever some of the worst things
that he has said. The same does

1798
01:42:13,860 --> 01:42:16,380
go for the left. I don't even
know the partisan breakdown of

1799
01:42:16,380 --> 01:42:19,800
what happened here, but my guess
is she's not looking at great

1800
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:21,680
sources of media. And I say all

1801
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:23,780
Adam Curry: this because, Janet
Jackson, you're watching the

1802
01:42:23,780 --> 01:42:24,740
wrong media.

1803
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,800
Unknown: It's why I try to not
have judgment with Trump voters.

1804
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,800
Instead, I try to engage them,
because I find people who are

1805
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:34,460
highly educated, highly
successful that support him, but

1806
01:42:34,460 --> 01:42:36,860
they often don't know if some of
the biggest scandals are the

1807
01:42:36,860 --> 01:42:40,340
worst things that he said about
people or things that he's done.

1808
01:42:40,340 --> 01:42:43,120
And I think if you take the
judgment out and just kind of

1809
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:45,940
get back to facts and trying to
persuade people, it helps,

1810
01:42:46,180 --> 01:42:49,360
Adam Curry: oh, because, you
know, really, it's the New World

1811
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,100
Order. Who has determined this,
this

1812
01:42:51,100 --> 01:42:55,240
Unknown: is the number one most
severe warning in the short term

1813
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:59,620
we have globally, misinformation
and disinformation. The World

1814
01:42:59,620 --> 01:43:01,680
Economic Forum said this is our
greatest

1815
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:05,400
Adam Curry: the World Economic
Forum says it all well, must be

1816
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,020
true, pump the brakes, risk

1817
01:43:07,020 --> 01:43:09,300
Unknown: in the next few years.
And it's not just this country.

1818
01:43:09,300 --> 01:43:12,240
It's everywhere. And a few
reasons you mentioned

1819
01:43:13,620 --> 01:43:16,800
John C Dvorak: misinformation
and disinformation, I like the

1820
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,980
fact that they're discussing
this after years and years and

1821
01:43:19,980 --> 01:43:24,620
years as Sonny Hoskins saying
she was black, and it turns out

1822
01:43:24,620 --> 01:43:26,480
she's Spanish, and

1823
01:43:26,480 --> 01:43:29,900
Adam Curry: her ancestors were
slave owners. They were slave

1824
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,660
owners. Oh, no, risk

1825
01:43:32,660 --> 01:43:34,940
Unknown: in the next few years.
And it's not just this country.

1826
01:43:34,940 --> 01:43:38,420
It's everywhere. And a few
reasons you mentioned that, you

1827
01:43:38,420 --> 01:43:41,140
know, you've got the algorithm,
but you also have internal

1828
01:43:41,140 --> 01:43:44,260
people like, you know, Donald
Trump, who ironically created or

1829
01:43:44,440 --> 01:43:48,760
coined the term fake news
willingly and on the daily, it

1830
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:51,760
seems, perpetuating false
stories on purpose. But then you

1831
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:55,000
also have foreign adversaries.
We recently learned of Russia

1832
01:43:55,000 --> 01:44:00,360
paying millions of dollars to
content creators doing this. Oh

1833
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:04,140
boy. The big message here is
going back to like journalism.

1834
01:44:04,140 --> 01:44:04,320
Talk

1835
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:07,020
Adam Curry: about your
misinformation, right there,

1836
01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:12,540
right there. Oh, well, Russia
was paying millions of dollars

1837
01:44:12,540 --> 01:44:16,500
to content creators. Now that's
not exactly what happened

1838
01:44:16,500 --> 01:44:17,100
creators

1839
01:44:17,340 --> 01:44:21,080
Unknown: to keep them doing
this. So the big message here is

1840
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:25,940
going back to like journalism,
101 or just education, 101 which

1841
01:44:25,940 --> 01:44:29,060
is you never single source a
story when you're looking

1842
01:44:29,060 --> 01:44:32,300
anywhere in journalism, we're
always taught you have to back

1843
01:44:32,300 --> 01:44:35,300
it up in media. For as much
black as media gets, for being

1844
01:44:35,300 --> 01:44:39,020
leaning, we can get fired or in
trouble for not being able to

1845
01:44:39,020 --> 01:44:41,500
source where we got our story.
What

1846
01:44:41,500 --> 01:44:44,920
Adam Curry: this really is
about, What crap, well, aboot,

1847
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:51,580
what this really is about, goes
back to Michael Jackson. And I

1848
01:44:51,580 --> 01:44:57,280
did not, I don't think I had got
the clip here, but when Michael

1849
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:02,100
Jackson was being i. I believe,
based on my interactions with

1850
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:09,840
Michael Jackson, he was asexual,
not a pedophile, for sure. Trump

1851
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:13,140
came out because Trump knew him
pretty well, and Trump said, you

1852
01:45:13,140 --> 01:45:16,860
know, this is bull crap. He's
being railroaded. Oh, actually,

1853
01:45:16,860 --> 01:45:22,520
I have the clip here, and he's,
played with my kids, that he's

1854
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,580
just, he's a guy who loves
children. He's a little child

1855
01:45:25,580 --> 01:45:33,080
like himself, but who was the
prosecutor, or maybe district

1856
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:39,140
attorney at the time, who Kamala
Harris, ah, listen, like

1857
01:45:39,140 --> 01:45:42,460
Unknown: this can depend on the
testimony of the child accuser.

1858
01:45:42,580 --> 01:45:47,080
In general, the child will be
able to recall and recollect

1859
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:50,320
with some detail the incident,
and that is persuasive to a

1860
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,200
jury, even if it is the only
testimony that is available.

1861
01:45:54,340 --> 01:45:56,140
Jackson gave a wave when he

1862
01:45:56,140 --> 01:45:59,740
was released after booking. He's
scheduled for arraignment in

1863
01:45:59,740 --> 01:46:00,460
January.

1864
01:46:01,540 --> 01:46:04,320
Michael's been a long time
resident of Trump Tower last

1865
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:06,720
night that Donald strongly
reiterated his defense of

1866
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:10,080
Jackson with Larry King by going
after the accuser's mother.

1867
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:14,760
She's had plenty of experience
at going after people, and she

1868
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:18,840
goes after them viciously and
violently. And I saw a story,

1869
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:22,100
and I read another story about
some of the things she's done,

1870
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:24,140
and I don't believe it, but you
know

1871
01:46:24,140 --> 01:46:27,020
what it's like when indictment
comes down, it's tough, his

1872
01:46:27,020 --> 01:46:31,160
presumption, it's tough. It's
tough to win, but I have a

1873
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:34,160
feeling he's going to win.
Larry, the interesting thing is,

1874
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,100
I've known Michael from many
different standpoints, and

1875
01:46:37,340 --> 01:46:40,100
Michael would spend a lot of
time with my kids. I have

1876
01:46:40,100 --> 01:46:43,540
beautiful kids. And at the time,
like at Mar a Lago, and even in

1877
01:46:43,540 --> 01:46:46,960
Trump Tower, the kids were very
young, Michael would come play

1878
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:51,100
with the kids. He just loved
children. He was not a child

1879
01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:51,640
molester.

1880
01:46:53,140 --> 01:46:55,540
Adam Curry: And so this is
what's really going on. This

1881
01:46:55,540 --> 01:46:58,840
John C Dvorak: is why flip
archive is unbelievable.

1882
01:46:59,380 --> 01:47:02,700
Adam Curry: This is why Janet
Jackson comes out and says, you

1883
01:47:02,700 --> 01:47:04,920
know, she's against Kamala
Harris, because she knows

1884
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:09,420
exactly what Kamala Harris did
to Michael Jackson. It's amazing

1885
01:47:09,420 --> 01:47:10,920
that this comes back, isn't it,

1886
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,160
John C Dvorak: and it's amazing
nobody else but you in this

1887
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:18,360
case, because I sure didn't have
this picked up on this. This is

1888
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:22,460
the kind of, kind of shallow
nature of the reporting we get

1889
01:47:22,460 --> 01:47:25,280
and analysis we get on
mainstream media and the view

1890
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:26,780
and places like that. And

1891
01:47:26,780 --> 01:47:29,840
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage

1892
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,720
and say in the morning to you,
the man who put the sea in kudos

1893
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:35,120
for Crowder. Say hello to my
friend on the other end, the one

1894
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:35,360
only.

1895
01:47:40,940 --> 01:47:44,380
John C Dvorak: Mr. Morning to
you, Mr. Kraffi water, dames in

1896
01:47:44,380 --> 01:47:47,680
the air, and Dames in the air
and the nights and the dames out

1897
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:48,220
there, yes,

1898
01:47:48,220 --> 01:47:49,300
Adam Curry: and we have a lot of
trolls.

1899
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:57,580
I don't know what, what is
supposed to be good for a

1900
01:47:57,580 --> 01:48:02,640
Thursday, because I'm always
1800 Oh, we have 1992 at the

1901
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,820
John C Dvorak: peak. All right.
All right, that's a peak. But

1902
01:48:05,820 --> 01:48:06,480
what's now?

1903
01:48:06,540 --> 01:48:10,500
Adam Curry: 1889 1898 1898
sounds right. Yeah, sounds

1904
01:48:10,500 --> 01:48:13,920
right. All right. We have a full
quorum. Hello, trolls. Good to

1905
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,280
see you all here. I actually
gave the trolls crew kudos on

1906
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,520
the new media show when I was
being into using you know, there

1907
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:25,340
really making media show. The
new media show is Todd and Rob

1908
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:26,900
in the afternoon.

1909
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:29,420
John C Dvorak: Todd Rob in the
afternoon.

1910
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,840
Adam Curry: Todd and Rob in the
afternoon. They're the

1911
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:37,160
afternoons on the eighth,
they've been, they've been doing

1912
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,800
that show for 18 years, or
something. No, that can't be

1913
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,700
eight. They've been doing the
show for a long time. And then,

1914
01:48:42,700 --> 01:48:46,240
you know, Todd owns blueberry.
He's the he started one of the

1915
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:49,540
first hosting companies,
blueberry. And Rob is he's

1916
01:48:49,540 --> 01:48:52,240
worked at every hosting company
in the world, and he also worked

1917
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:56,680
at Microsoft on the Zune. He has
a his he has a very interesting

1918
01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:00,780
podcast career. So I talked
about the trolls. It's, well,

1919
01:49:00,780 --> 01:49:04,200
it's really the producers, but a
lot of the producers are trolls,

1920
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:08,340
and they sit in our troll room
and and I think it's we were

1921
01:49:08,340 --> 01:49:14,160
leading 1516, years ago, when we
started by doing live shows. We

1922
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:18,240
were, we were leading on this.
It's, it's the way the podcast

1923
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:22,280
in the future will go. People
want to be a part of something.

1924
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:26,120
So whether they're trolling, and
I might pick it up from time to

1925
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:29,240
time, or they give us some
information, like JP Sears, you

1926
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:32,960
know, it was the trolls are a
part of the show. That's what

1927
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:37,160
differentiates us from radio.
Radio is like you can call in,

1928
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:41,500
be called a 100 to win a t
shirt. Here, you're a part of

1929
01:49:41,500 --> 01:49:45,100
the show, man, you're part of
the show. And we do it twice a

1930
01:49:45,100 --> 01:49:47,860
week on Thursdays and Sundays,
and we're very happy to be here.

1931
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:53,320
You can join the troll
room@trollroom.io you can listen

1932
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:57,400
to the stream 24/7 right there,
and jump in and troll away. If

1933
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:58,360
you want to mention

1934
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:01,320
John C Dvorak: that Horowitz,
your protege. Also employs a

1935
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:03,900
similar tactic. He does a troll
room, yes,

1936
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,780
Adam Curry: and does he read
anything from the well, he calls

1937
01:50:06,780 --> 01:50:09,120
it the chat room. It's not
really a troll room, it's a chat

1938
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:12,120
room over there, when you guys
do the show, but he's watching

1939
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:13,260
what people say, right?

1940
01:50:13,860 --> 01:50:15,660
Unknown: Yeah, as far as I know,
yeah, well, I've

1941
01:50:15,660 --> 01:50:19,500
Adam Curry: taught him. Well,
Horowitz is good. He's a good

1942
01:50:19,500 --> 01:50:23,780
man. Love him. Good guy. Be
smart, has a future in this

1943
01:50:23,780 --> 01:50:27,980
game, as long as he sticks with
you. Because that's the secret.

1944
01:50:27,980 --> 01:50:29,720
We always got his own podcast
too. That's

1945
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:30,200
John C Dvorak: pretty good.

1946
01:50:30,260 --> 01:50:33,320
Adam Curry: Yeah, the
disciplined investor, exactly he

1947
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:36,140
had Scaramucci on the other day.
It's pretty funny.

1948
01:50:36,380 --> 01:50:38,120
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I missed
that one. I was gonna catch it

1949
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:38,660
too. Well, it's

1950
01:50:38,660 --> 01:50:40,660
Adam Curry: a podcast. You can
go back and find it in your

1951
01:50:40,660 --> 01:50:43,540
modern podcast app. Oh, I never
thought it. Yes, your modern

1952
01:50:43,540 --> 01:50:47,020
podcast app, which you can
find@podcastapps.com be updated

1953
01:50:47,020 --> 01:50:49,540
within 90 seconds of the
publishing of this show and many

1954
01:50:49,540 --> 01:50:52,300
other shows. Todd actually, on
the new media show yesterday,

1955
01:50:52,300 --> 01:50:55,960
was reading off some more
takedowns from Spotify. You

1956
01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:58,480
know, they'll take down
individual episodes even. Oh,

1957
01:50:58,480 --> 01:51:00,600
John C Dvorak: we find that the
weirdest thing.

1958
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:01,440
Adam Curry: Oh, you know,

1959
01:51:01,440 --> 01:51:03,300
John C Dvorak: we don't like
what you said there in the five

1960
01:51:03,300 --> 01:51:05,640
minute mark. So we're killing
this one. I

1961
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:09,000
Adam Curry: think we're at 1212
now you just threw out another W

1962
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:14,100
word. Sorry. It's, it's on you.

1963
01:51:14,580 --> 01:51:15,840
John C Dvorak: I don't even know
I did that.

1964
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:20,040
Adam Curry: It's, it's bad
enough that we're both at 1212

1965
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:21,920
I'm usually pretty good at this,

1966
01:51:22,100 --> 01:51:24,200
John C Dvorak: but there's no
you would have stopped at at

1967
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:25,160
four. Yeah,

1968
01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:29,720
Adam Curry: this double this W
word has got a it is. It's very

1969
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:38,960
nasty. It's a nasty, nasty word.
So we live on value for value. I

1970
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:43,240
just did a 13 minute piece for a
Dutch conference, podcasts,

1971
01:51:43,300 --> 01:51:44,740
knowledge conference,

1972
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:47,980
John C Dvorak: yeah, is that all
about all about value for value?

1973
01:51:47,980 --> 01:51:48,760
No, it's

1974
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:50,440
Adam Curry: all about
advertising and marketing. I

1975
01:51:50,440 --> 01:51:54,700
just said, you know, that's all
great, but it's censorship. You

1976
01:51:54,700 --> 01:51:58,360
really want to go value form of
Yes, of course it is. If you

1977
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:02,040
just even not being able to talk
about a competing product. It's

1978
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:02,700
yourself. That's

1979
01:52:02,700 --> 01:52:05,220
John C Dvorak: why you won't see
that woman, uh, Jillian,

1980
01:52:05,220 --> 01:52:06,600
whatever her last name is,

1981
01:52:07,740 --> 01:52:10,440
Adam Curry: she'll never, she'll
never be on Fox again once

1982
01:52:10,440 --> 01:52:12,780
you're talking down the Big
Pharma. No way. Yep, she

1983
01:52:12,780 --> 01:52:15,540
John C Dvorak: talked to she
bought, and it was not, it was

1984
01:52:15,780 --> 01:52:18,600
people should go back and think
if they have that thing on tape

1985
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:20,960
and listen to her, she goes off.

1986
01:52:21,980 --> 01:52:25,760
Adam Curry: I mean, if, if we
actually had advertisers, we

1987
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:28,880
wouldn't be able to talk about
black rice, any coffee. Wouldn't

1988
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:34,700
be able to talk about any, any
resume services, or any or a

1989
01:52:34,700 --> 01:52:38,240
good, good idea supply. You
know, because this, we have bad

1990
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:41,380
idea supply, none of that. We
wouldn't be able to do any of

1991
01:52:41,380 --> 01:52:46,480
that bad. It's a great store.
You know, we wouldn't be able to

1992
01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:49,660
talk about Kirkland as we'd be
advertising for

1993
01:52:51,220 --> 01:52:52,240
Unknown: Costco, Costco,

1994
01:52:53,500 --> 01:52:55,420
John C Dvorak: though, Where's
our money from Costco? Where's

1995
01:52:55,420 --> 01:52:58,060
Adam Curry: our Costco check?
Everybody, a lot of people

1996
01:52:58,060 --> 01:53:02,220
picked up on that tip of yours
anyway, instead, it's value for

1997
01:53:02,220 --> 01:53:06,360
value time, talent or treasure,
where we just give you the show.

1998
01:53:06,420 --> 01:53:09,900
The show is out there. It's on
the podcast. All of them are

1999
01:53:09,900 --> 01:53:12,180
still in the feed. You can go
back, listen anytime, do

2000
01:53:12,180 --> 01:53:15,720
anything you want. You can copy
it. In fact, we encourage that.

2001
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:18,960
We encourage you to copy it.
Hand it to people, put it other

2002
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:22,100
places. Just leave it intact, so
that we have the thank you

2003
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:24,560
segment in there, so we can
thank our producers, and you can

2004
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:27,500
help us with time talent or
treasure that would be a great

2005
01:53:27,500 --> 01:53:30,800
talent or time move by helping
promote the show. And a lot of

2006
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:34,220
people do that. We have people
who we've never set up. And this

2007
01:53:34,220 --> 01:53:36,800
is another part of our of our
genius. We didn't know it at the

2008
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:41,200
time, but you know, getting
websites up and running and

2009
01:53:41,260 --> 01:53:45,340
managing servers is very costly.
We don't have money for that.

2010
01:53:45,340 --> 01:53:49,960
We're not CNET. We don't have
free food. In fact, the

2011
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:53,260
opposite, we don't have any any
Caboose with free food out

2012
01:53:53,260 --> 01:53:57,340
there. So instead, producers
have an obligation to work on

2013
01:53:57,340 --> 01:54:00,420
the show and help out, and that
one time when there's a topic

2014
01:54:00,420 --> 01:54:03,900
that is something that you know
about, you need to email us,

2015
01:54:03,900 --> 01:54:06,120
which is usually just me,
because it's hard to spell

2016
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:08,280
Dvorak, and you say, Hey,

2017
01:54:08,700 --> 01:54:10,260
John C Dvorak: I have any
complaints?

2018
01:54:10,500 --> 01:54:14,580
Adam Curry: I Well, we just got
a note from one of our friends

2019
01:54:14,580 --> 01:54:19,200
about Boeing. You know, Boeing
just had the best and final

2020
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:24,320
contract offer. Am I? Amongst
this strike, and one of our

2021
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:30,080
producers, who works in the
business, I don't want to

2022
01:54:30,440 --> 01:54:34,340
disclose, says Boeing and
Washington State, California and

2023
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:38,420
Oklahoma have let all of their
contract engineers go, and now

2024
01:54:38,420 --> 01:54:41,980
they hear them talking about
furloughing the direct employee

2025
01:54:41,980 --> 01:54:47,260
engineers for one week each
month to save cash flow the 737

2026
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:52,300
Max, the failed space capsule,
fired Space Defense executive

2027
01:54:52,300 --> 01:54:56,620
and now a union mechanic strike.
I'm hearing from several buddies

2028
01:54:56,620 --> 01:54:59,920
at other aircrafts company or
aircraft companies. They're.

2029
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,960
Calling me looking for a new
gig, as other companies related

2030
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:09,240
to this now are preparing to cut
so Boeing is, I think they're

2031
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:13,320
dead in the water. John, I
really think that, you know,

2032
01:55:13,380 --> 01:55:15,540
John C Dvorak: this is not dead
in the water, because our

2033
01:55:15,540 --> 01:55:17,820
government so, well, okay,

2034
01:55:18,180 --> 01:55:20,900
Adam Curry: well, someone's got
to take this over. This is, this

2035
01:55:20,900 --> 01:55:23,120
is, isn't this? Where's Elon?
Where's

2036
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:24,920
John C Dvorak: Soros? No, Elon.

2037
01:55:26,660 --> 01:55:29,600
Adam Curry: Elon, yeah. Elon, he
could take it over. Yeah. He

2038
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,120
could do it. Yeah. Well, the
space division, I know about

2039
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:35,900
airplanes. I guess you could do
that. He could do it. Those

2040
01:55:35,900 --> 01:55:39,200
Chinese airplanes look pretty
good. Yeah, that's where it's

2041
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:42,100
headed. I would fly them. I
don't think I'm not too worried

2042
01:55:42,100 --> 01:55:46,480
about the Chinese 737, knockoff.
It looks okay. You get an

2043
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:50,560
airworthiness certificate. It's
good, yeah, best price.

2044
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:53,500
John C Dvorak: I'm sure it's the
best price.

2045
01:55:54,460 --> 01:56:00,600
Adam Curry: We also have artists
who do a lot of prompt jockeying

2046
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:04,860
these days, although I don't
think this one was a necessarily

2047
01:56:05,340 --> 01:56:10,800
an AI creation the now you can
see all of the artwork that is

2048
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:14,220
submitted. No agenda. Art
generator.com. Another website

2049
01:56:14,220 --> 01:56:18,420
we didn't make another fine
example of value for value.

2050
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:22,400
Thank you, sir. Paul couture,
nestworks came in for Episode

2051
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:28,340
1697, we titled that Nido, Nido,
which is spelled lowercase, N,

2052
01:56:28,340 --> 01:56:34,760
E, A, T, dash O, Nido, and had
just this interesting collage, I

2053
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:42,880
would say, of our AI segment
with a robot and the and the

2054
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:47,980
notebook, LM, buckle up, and the
Walkman, which of course, was

2055
01:56:47,980 --> 01:56:52,420
the exploding Walkman within the
hizzy, which is about our, our

2056
01:56:52,420 --> 01:56:56,560
Oprah takeoff, even has John's
oasis in there. It was, it was

2057
01:56:56,560 --> 01:57:00,600
a, it was just a collage of
stuff with some graffiti type

2058
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:05,340
lettering, which we liked, and
so we chosen, we appreciate the

2059
01:57:05,340 --> 01:57:07,680
work that nestworks did on that
one. I don't think it

2060
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:10,500
John C Dvorak: had to be a if
there was any AI involved, it

2061
01:57:10,500 --> 01:57:14,520
had to be a hybrid. Yeah, it
could be hybrid. Yeah. You get

2062
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:18,120
your main thing, and then you
jump on it, and you hit the

2063
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:20,660
graphic, and then you add this
other stuff, and a lot of

2064
01:57:20,660 --> 01:57:23,420
otherwise, it's just, I don't
know what prompted you is to get

2065
01:57:23,420 --> 01:57:25,820
all those crazy things going on.
Yeah,

2066
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:28,520
Adam Curry: well, a lot of,
well, it's only going to get

2067
01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:33,800
worse. You know, the more people
put I mean, I tried to do a logo

2068
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:37,460
the other day, and it misspells
the words and it does

2069
01:57:40,100 --> 01:57:43,420
John C Dvorak: 13. Borowitz is
using it for the art, for a DH

2070
01:57:43,420 --> 01:57:43,900
unplugged,

2071
01:57:43,900 --> 01:57:46,360
Adam Curry: yeah, well, it'll
progress. It will get worse.

2072
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:47,740
It'll get worse. It'll get
worse.

2073
01:57:48,100 --> 01:57:48,700
John C Dvorak: Might get worse,

2074
01:57:48,700 --> 01:57:51,700
Adam Curry: might get better.
Will it get it'll it might get

2075
01:57:52,060 --> 01:57:52,480
better. They

2076
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:54,700
John C Dvorak: don't give you
one choice. You usually get four

2077
01:57:54,700 --> 01:57:58,180
choices every time you put a
prompt in, yeah. And then you or

2078
01:57:58,180 --> 01:58:01,680
more, depending on your system,
yeah, and, you know, then you

2079
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:04,680
could massage it a couple of
times. I think sometimes it

2080
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:06,780
takes longer to do it that way
than actually do

2081
01:58:06,780 --> 01:58:10,440
Adam Curry: that. I literally
had to ask five times. No spell,

2082
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:15,360
no agenda. It'd be like, no
adjourn. You know, it couldn't

2083
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:19,740
get no agenda, right? I don't
know why it was. It's very, very

2084
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:26,060
uh, quotes, yes, yes,
unpredictable results. So we had

2085
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:29,720
sir net Ned, who had a nice, a
hot take or two, nice piece of

2086
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:30,620
art, but didn't

2087
01:58:30,620 --> 01:58:33,740
John C Dvorak: really we had one
piece we were going to comment

2088
01:58:33,740 --> 01:58:35,660
on which, well

2089
01:58:35,660 --> 01:58:38,300
Adam Curry: we liked the
stowaway by scaramango. We kind

2090
01:58:38,300 --> 01:58:42,280
of, it was between the yes we
did the art we chose. And

2091
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:44,920
scaramangos Mouse, which was
very cute. There's a little

2092
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:50,080
mouse there in the in the
broccoli and carrots. Uh, what

2093
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:53,920
else there was, uh, hot takes
with two old Adam and John's,

2094
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:55,720
which we're never going to
choose, that we're gonna like,

2095
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:57,880
make ourselves look like old
white dudes.

2096
01:58:58,180 --> 01:58:59,680
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're
already old white dudes. Who

2097
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:02,940
needs it? Seriously. What else
who needs the aggravation?

2098
01:59:04,620 --> 01:59:07,920
Adam Curry: Puffy's Bad Boy oil,
which was just Nico signed, was

2099
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,800
too simple. Was too simple. I
don't remember what we're gonna

2100
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:14,220
comment on other it had to be
the scare manga mouse. Yeah,

2101
01:59:14,220 --> 01:59:16,680
what was wrong with the scare?
It was, he was too cute.

2102
01:59:17,700 --> 01:59:20,100
John C Dvorak: No, it just
wasn't as interesting overall.

2103
01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:23,780
And it was a mouse and food,
and, yeah, it was kind of gross,

2104
01:59:23,780 --> 01:59:25,880
as you think about it. I think
there was just something

2105
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:27,680
repulsive about the idea. I

2106
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:31,160
Adam Curry: like Parker, Parker
Polly's P Diddy in the Epstein

2107
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:39,080
suite. Very, very dark, very
dark humor. But thank you. Thank

2108
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:42,760
you, artists. The people who do
the real work are Dutch masters,

2109
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,400
and it shows every single time.
We can pick them right out, like

2110
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:48,940
nestworks, right up there with
Ram Brandt and Van Gogh. This is

2111
01:59:48,940 --> 01:59:50,800
beautiful. No agenda, Art
Generator.

2112
01:59:51,220 --> 01:59:54,820
John C Dvorak: Much of this is
frameable. Oh, most of it is

2113
01:59:54,820 --> 01:59:55,480
frameable.

2114
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:59,320
Adam Curry: I mean, it's just,
it's beautiful. Oh, you know, I

2115
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:01,440
got a note. From, and

2116
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:04,260
John C Dvorak: you can get by
the way you can go. When you

2117
02:00:04,260 --> 02:00:06,960
click on these, you can see
there's a huge version, there's

2118
02:00:07,020 --> 02:00:09,600
different sizes, and you can
click on the big, giant size,

2119
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:12,240
download that, and you can print
it out. I want to frame it. I

2120
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:12,600
want to

2121
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:14,880
Adam Curry: remind everybody
that a lot of this art shows up

2122
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:19,980
at no agenda shop.com, on T
shirts, hats, hoodies, koozies,

2123
02:00:19,980 --> 02:00:24,140
all kinds of wonderful products.
No agenda shop.com and I got a

2124
02:00:24,140 --> 02:00:27,860
note from one of our producers,
who was a millennial, and he

2125
02:00:27,860 --> 02:00:31,640
sent me a beautiful note he owns
and started with his wife, the

2126
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:36,380
company, Opie way. Are you
familiar with this? No, o, p, i,

2127
02:00:36,380 --> 02:00:43,060
e, way.com, Opie way.com, makes
handcrafted sneakers from suede

2128
02:00:43,060 --> 02:00:45,640
and leather, and a very
beautiful high end product,

2129
02:00:46,060 --> 02:00:50,080
really, yeah, take a look at it.
Op, way calm. And he's been,

2130
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:56,200
he's in, you know, in, O, P, A,
O, P, I, E, W, A, y, O, P, way,

2131
02:00:56,260 --> 02:01:02,700
op, way.com, and, yes, nice
product, very nice. Oh yeah,

2132
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:05,280
these are fancy looking. Yeah,
fancy looking. The other kind

2133
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:08,280
you can wear under your suit if
you go to the Academy Awards and

2134
02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:13,740
you're a hipster. And he says,
you know, you guys have kept us

2135
02:01:13,740 --> 02:01:17,520
sane while we were building this
company. I just want you to know

2136
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:21,380
there's some millennials who are
grinding away, and this is

2137
02:01:21,380 --> 02:01:23,960
grinding away for sure, yeah.
And he says, you know, and your

2138
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:27,020
show has really helped us, and
we appreciate it, and it's named

2139
02:01:27,020 --> 02:01:30,320
after that kid. They have two
young two young kids. One is

2140
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:35,240
named Opie, the other one's
named way I forget that right?

2141
02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:40,120
No, forget that name. And he
says, Is it okay if we make a no

2142
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:43,840
agenda sneaker. I said
absolutely. You know, same

2143
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:46,840
parameters as the shop. Don't
put our faces on it, but you can

2144
02:01:46,900 --> 02:01:47,200
use

2145
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:49,900
John C Dvorak: it. You know,
funny if you put no agenda on

2146
02:01:49,900 --> 02:01:52,000
the side of one of these
sneakers, because he's, he's

2147
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:55,300
does a demo on this on his
website here with a Nike logo.

2148
02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:59,200
And if you, if that was no
agenda stylized on the side, and

2149
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:02,400
you wore these sneakers around,
no, it would not necessarily be

2150
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:05,040
associated with this show. It
would just be kind of a cool,

2151
02:02:05,100 --> 02:02:06,780
yeah, very it's a cool,

2152
02:02:06,780 --> 02:02:10,320
Adam Curry: cool sneaker. Yeah,
I said, you know, do the same as

2153
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:13,080
the shop, like you do whatever
you do. You be you boo, and send

2154
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:16,320
us a donation from time to time.
If it works out, we don't want

2155
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:21,260
any shoes that wouldn't hurt.
Well, you sound like, Tina,

2156
02:02:21,260 --> 02:02:24,020
she's like, Hey, I want some
sneakers. He

2157
02:02:25,400 --> 02:02:27,800
Unknown: wasn't offering

2158
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:30,680
Adam Curry: sneakers to you, but
I want some sneak you don't even

2159
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:36,740
wear sneakers. Well, wear these.
These are beautiful, anyway. So

2160
02:02:36,740 --> 02:02:41,080
just another way that time towns
and treasure fits into our

2161
02:02:41,080 --> 02:02:44,680
entire system here, and this is
the moment in the show we like

2162
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:47,500
to thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers.

2163
02:02:47,500 --> 02:02:50,320
Lots of people donate to the
show. You can donate in any

2164
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:54,220
amount you want, as often as you
want, however you want to do it.

2165
02:02:54,220 --> 02:02:56,740
Some people haven't donated in
10 years, and they say, oh, you

2166
02:02:56,740 --> 02:02:59,620
know, it's about time for me to
do something here, which is all

2167
02:02:59,620 --> 02:03:03,060
fine, it's all good. It's value
for value, whatever value you

2168
02:03:03,060 --> 02:03:06,900
get out of the show. We just ask
you to send it back to us.

2169
02:03:06,900 --> 02:03:10,260
That's all. It's that simple, by
the way, did I hear you had a

2170
02:03:10,260 --> 02:03:13,260
one hour conversation with Steve
Gibson about newsletter

2171
02:03:13,260 --> 02:03:18,960
software? Yeah, I did, as a
matter of fact, yeah, everyone

2172
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:19,980
knows about this.

2173
02:03:20,100 --> 02:03:22,400
John C Dvorak: Well, he was he
doing talking about it. Talked

2174
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:24,920
about it with Leo. Oh,

2175
02:03:25,460 --> 02:03:28,580
Adam Curry: so did you learn
anything? Yeah, well, a little

2176
02:03:28,580 --> 02:03:31,520
bit, yeah, are we? Are you going
to switch up and use something,

2177
02:03:31,580 --> 02:03:33,620
some different program? What are
you gonna do? We

2178
02:03:33,620 --> 02:03:35,540
John C Dvorak: talked about this
on the show already. A little

2179
02:03:35,540 --> 02:03:38,180
bit. You poo pooed the idea. And
I said, I'm gonna go ahead.

2180
02:03:38,180 --> 02:03:43,180
Anyway. Okay. No, he has, he
has, it's, you know, he's not a

2181
02:03:43,180 --> 02:03:48,400
come. He's not doing his
newsletter The way we do ours.

2182
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:52,900
Ours are, ours are a specific
type of newsletter that he

2183
02:03:52,900 --> 02:03:55,840
doesn't do. And so I'm not sure
about the effectiveness. But

2184
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:59,440
yes, we had a long chat about
that and other gossipy things,

2185
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:02,640
which he didn't obviously
mentioned. Oh, gosh, we're

2186
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definitely insightful.

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02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:06,180
Adam Curry: Oh, you tell me
after the show you share.

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02:04:07,380 --> 02:04:08,820
Unknown: Come on. Oh, I

2189
02:04:08,820 --> 02:04:10,860
Adam Curry: can't let's hurry
up. Let's get to the end of the

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02:04:10,860 --> 02:04:15,000
show. I can't wait. So we always
want to thank everybody who

2191
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:18,360
supports us. You can do
sustaining donations, which is

2192
02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:21,440
any amount, any frequency, you
can set that up at no agenda

2193
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:24,860
donations.com. Again, no agenda
donations.com. One more time,

2194
02:04:24,860 --> 02:04:27,680
that's no agenda donations.com.
Three times, and you remember it

2195
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:28,700
for the rest of your life.

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02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:30,260
John C Dvorak: What was it?

2197
02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:32,720
Adam Curry: No agenda
donations.com. Four times they

2198
02:04:32,720 --> 02:04:40,100
forget it. But we not just thank
people. We hand out credits for

2199
02:04:40,100 --> 02:04:42,940
production of this show and the
way it works in Hollywood, if

2200
02:04:42,940 --> 02:04:45,940
you pay money for the
production, you get a producer

2201
02:04:45,940 --> 02:04:49,180
credit, in this case, $200 or
above, we read your note and you

2202
02:04:49,180 --> 02:04:52,420
get an Associate Executive
producer credit. $300 and above,

2203
02:04:52,420 --> 02:04:55,600
we read your note and you get an
executive producer credit, and

2204
02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:59,440
we kick it off today. Mind
blown, sir. Pursuit of peace and

2205
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:03,180
tranquil. Ability from Midland,
Georgia comes in with the

2206
02:05:03,180 --> 02:05:04,860
rubbilizer donation of $3,333.33

2207
02:05:07,980 --> 02:05:09,720
Unknown: Mike standby, 3333

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02:05:15,060 --> 02:05:19,560
Adam Curry: 33 rubbleizer out
and he sent a notes with this

2209
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:23,060
donation handwritten. And he
says, in the morning, boys, I am

2210
02:05:23,060 --> 02:05:28,460
donating 333333, to mark my one
year anniversary for donating to

2211
02:05:28,460 --> 02:05:33,860
the show monthly. Wow, we must
be very valuable to him. Plus,

2212
02:05:33,860 --> 02:05:36,260
he says, I'm tired of seeing
that sad puppy every week.

2213
02:05:36,260 --> 02:05:39,860
Helpful. Hopefully this helps.
What does this week? On a recent

2214
02:05:39,860 --> 02:05:45,040
camping trip in the BWCA, I hid
a good friend, liberal Paul from

2215
02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:48,160
Ohio, in the mouth, and would
appreciate it if you'd call him

2216
02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:53,020
out as a douchebag, as a good
friend, he will appreciate it.

2217
02:05:55,180 --> 02:05:58,420
Bet they will love the show and
appreciate your deconstruction

2218
02:05:58,420 --> 02:06:00,660
of the media based on the
attached accounting. Please

2219
02:06:00,660 --> 02:06:04,680
grant me the title of Earl
sincerely sir, pursuit of peace

2220
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:09,180
and tranquility in the lands of
red clay and cherry trees, and

2221
02:06:09,180 --> 02:06:12,360
you are on the list, sir. Thank
you very much for your support

2222
02:06:12,660 --> 02:06:14,100
of the no agenda show.

2223
02:06:16,020 --> 02:06:19,320
John C Dvorak: Yes. Thanks a
lot. And whilst staying in the

2224
02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:22,820
south, we go to Alabama, so
Leighton in Dothan, Dothan dot

2225
02:06:22,820 --> 02:06:26,960
and Dothan 533, 33 which is no
slouch of a donation, that's a

2226
02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:30,440
Commodore Commodore, yes, is our
Commodore promotion. Uh,

2227
02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:35,120
Thursday night we are heading or
writing out a hurricane Helene

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02:06:35,300 --> 02:06:39,380
here in southeast Alabama. And
so it's a great time to donate

2229
02:06:39,500 --> 02:06:42,640
and Listen Live, really. I mean,
you might not be able to listen

2230
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:46,420
live and pray and request
prayers for those affected, as

2231
02:06:46,420 --> 02:06:49,300
always. Love the show. They get
a lot of wind. They do have a

2232
02:06:49,300 --> 02:06:51,940
windy one. Yes, love the show
and look forward to each

2233
02:06:51,940 --> 02:06:53,980
episode. So sir Layton,

2234
02:06:54,100 --> 02:06:56,440
Adam Curry: I haven't had time
to look into it, but a lot of

2235
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:59,380
people are telling me the
weather charts are showing

2236
02:06:59,380 --> 02:07:02,040
something different than what
they believe is happening

2237
02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:05,400
John C Dvorak: that that this
show, please elaborate that

2238
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:06,060
they're showing

2239
02:07:06,060 --> 02:07:08,760
Adam Curry: this as being a very
severe storm when they believe

2240
02:07:08,760 --> 02:07:14,220
it is not. I've seen video that
looks pretty windy to me, so I'm

2241
02:07:14,220 --> 02:07:16,200
not sure. I haven't had

2242
02:07:16,380 --> 02:07:18,060
John C Dvorak: interstates.
They're supposed to be

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02:07:18,060 --> 02:07:21,980
sustaining at about 65 miles an
hour with gusts up to 90,

2244
02:07:22,700 --> 02:07:24,500
Adam Curry: which is, is that a
cat one

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02:07:25,700 --> 02:07:28,400
John C Dvorak: it's in that air
or area, it's not gonna I mean,

2246
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:31,340
once it hits the land, it just
falls apart. Falls apart.

2247
02:07:31,340 --> 02:07:33,500
Adam Curry: Yeah, all right.
Well, of course, of course.

2248
02:07:33,500 --> 02:07:38,180
Prayer request. Prayer flare
received, sir layron, John G and

2249
02:07:38,180 --> 02:07:41,920
Deerfield Beach, Florida, 525, a
Commodore for him, he says,

2250
02:07:41,920 --> 02:07:46,180
Commodore donation got it also.
Producers, are you dehydrated?

2251
02:07:50,860 --> 02:07:56,020
Producers, are you dehydrated?
Oh, I am. I'm parched. Check out

2252
02:07:56,020 --> 02:08:00,540
this great iPhone and Apple
Watch app. It's called P water

2253
02:08:00,540 --> 02:08:04,560
tracker replacement. No water
tracking. Just tap a button when

2254
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:10,020
you pee to track your hydration.
People love it. Not a joke. All

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02:08:10,020 --> 02:08:12,780
right, I don't have an Apple
Watch, but comics, your blogger,

2256
02:08:12,780 --> 02:08:15,840
I'm sure, will let me know how
well it works. He's all in on

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02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:18,720
the Apple ecosystem. Thank you,
John. We'll see you at the

2258
02:08:18,720 --> 02:08:23,900
Commodore commodoring,
Commodore, yes, as a Commodore,

2259
02:08:23,900 --> 02:08:24,020
if

2260
02:08:25,400 --> 02:08:27,800
John C Dvorak: I count silver,
due to the silver dolphins in

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02:08:27,860 --> 02:08:32,240
Eldersburg, Maryland, comes in
with 500 I knew it had been a

2262
02:08:32,240 --> 02:08:34,400
full year since my last
donation. I had been feeling

2263
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:36,920
guilty about that with all of
the sad puppies going around,

2264
02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:40,540
I've been job. The sad puppy has
long term effect. I guess. Yes,

2265
02:08:40,660 --> 02:08:44,800
I've been jobless as of late. My
choice. I'm on a steady break

2266
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:47,680
for the CISSP certification.
What

2267
02:08:47,680 --> 02:08:49,600
Adam Curry: is that? What is
CISSP?

2268
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:52,720
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Look it up. I will, so the funds

2269
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:55,960
don't go as far as they used to.
However, I just saw John's

2270
02:08:55,960 --> 02:08:59,080
latest newsletter announcing the
no agenda Commodore promotion,

2271
02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:02,520
and I knew this was the moment
to end my douchebaggery. So

2272
02:09:02,520 --> 02:09:07,020
here's five Benji's to keep the
train of rolling and hopefully

2273
02:09:07,020 --> 02:09:10,800
move to come and more to come
before another year passes. It

2274
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:13,740
also happens that my little my
title changes from vicount to

2275
02:09:13,740 --> 02:09:17,700
Earl, and there's another Earl
with this donation to all the

2276
02:09:17,700 --> 02:09:21,080
other producers and trolls.
Let's end the year stronger than

2277
02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:24,860
we found it no jingles, but some
lovely goat karma to my brother

2278
02:09:24,860 --> 02:09:28,760
battling a series of health
issues. Soon to be Earl silver,

2279
02:09:28,760 --> 02:09:32,000
silver due to the silver
dolphins. No agenda, Commodore,

2280
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:37,220
US and US Navy, retired bassist
cyber strike

2281
02:09:37,460 --> 02:09:41,260
Adam Curry: and CISSP is
Certified Information System

2282
02:09:41,260 --> 02:09:43,180
Security Professional.

2283
02:09:44,020 --> 02:09:46,120
John C Dvorak: That's a job that
lasts for life. That

2284
02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:48,100
Adam Curry: is a good job.
Here's your goat man. Thank you

2285
02:09:48,100 --> 02:09:49,060
very much. You've

2286
02:09:49,060 --> 02:09:51,640
Unknown: got karma.

2287
02:09:53,260 --> 02:09:55,480
Adam Curry: And Sir Daniels
checks in at no agenda

2288
02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:58,960
donations.com he's the Knight of
the Lake Highlands in Dallas,

2289
02:09:58,960 --> 02:10:02,520
Texas, 500 Dollars. He says,
Commodore Coleman, Commodore of

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02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:05,640
Coleman County, Knight of Lake
Highlands and Duke of the

2291
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:09,180
Republic of Texas. That's all we
need to know. You're on the

2292
02:10:09,180 --> 02:10:12,000
list. Thank you. You will be
receiving your Commodore ship.

2293
02:10:13,320 --> 02:10:15,420
John C Dvorak: Go to Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania for Sir David

2294
02:10:15,420 --> 02:10:18,720
French, who comes to the 500
bucks Commodore level. Please

2295
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:21,920
keep up the good work. Great
work, John and Adam Sir David

2296
02:10:21,920 --> 02:10:25,340
French, Baron of bits and bytes
in bourbon. Baron

2297
02:10:25,340 --> 02:10:27,800
Adam Curry: Marky Mark is in
vaidyness, that's in the

2298
02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:32,060
Netherlands 500 The show has
been a constant in my life for

2299
02:10:32,060 --> 02:10:36,980
almost 17 years now. Thanks for
the value guys. Keep it up.

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02:10:37,040 --> 02:10:41,260
Baron Marky Mark from uster lake
in the Netherlands, Commodore

2301
02:10:41,260 --> 02:10:41,920
ship for you.

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02:10:44,140 --> 02:10:46,180
John C Dvorak: I find it
interesting that somebody could

2303
02:10:46,240 --> 02:10:51,700
listen to those early shows and
still be listening. Eric r5 100,

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02:10:51,700 --> 02:10:57,940
I would like to be Commodore 64
or if that's taken, no, we can

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02:10:57,940 --> 02:11:01,200
be, you know, we can have a lot
of Commodore 64 is, if anybody

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02:11:01,200 --> 02:11:03,780
wants that, if that's taking
Commodore Amiga, of

2307
02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:07,560
Adam Curry: course, that's no
problem, and we'll put it on the

2308
02:11:07,560 --> 02:11:08,460
certificate, right,

2309
02:11:09,420 --> 02:11:11,820
John C Dvorak: if that's what
they want, sure. Ron

2310
02:11:11,820 --> 02:11:14,820
Adam Curry: mills in Florence,
South Carolina, 500 you may call

2311
02:11:14,820 --> 02:11:19,140
me Commodore Ronbo, King of the
pugs. Love the show. Very happy

2312
02:11:19,140 --> 02:11:22,340
to donate to the cause. There's
Ron mills. Thank

2313
02:11:22,340 --> 02:11:25,460
Unknown: you. Ron king of the
pugs, yeah,

2314
02:11:25,520 --> 02:11:27,560
Adam Curry: it's good, man. It's
good. He's good.

2315
02:11:28,340 --> 02:11:30,980
John C Dvorak: Steven McConnell
comes in from Cortland, Ohio,

2316
02:11:31,220 --> 02:11:33,980
500 another Commodore, but says
no note.

2317
02:11:34,220 --> 02:11:36,380
Adam Curry: Then he gets a
double up donation. You've

2318
02:11:36,380 --> 02:11:39,620
Unknown: got karma

2319
02:11:41,660 --> 02:11:43,840
Adam Curry: do the one in the
troll room says he's been here

2320
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:47,500
since show number three. All
right. Do the one you do it boy,

2321
02:11:48,580 --> 02:11:52,360
sir hair wheel hair heel, sorry,
sir hair heel. White Salmon,

2322
02:11:52,360 --> 02:11:56,860
Washington. He dips down to 333,
dot 33 says, Thank you for your

2323
02:11:56,860 --> 02:12:00,780
courage. Can I have some jobs
and F cancer karma, please? Of

2324
02:12:00,780 --> 02:12:01,860
course, you can

2325
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:09,300
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs.

2326
02:12:09,480 --> 02:12:10,920
Let's vote for jobs.

2327
02:12:14,940 --> 02:12:16,740
John C Dvorak: Okay, we got our
first switcheroo. And by the

2328
02:12:16,740 --> 02:12:22,400
way, a Commodore ship would be a
great gift Walker Campbell in

2329
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:26,960
Fleetwood, North Carolina. 333,
switcheroo. This birthday

2330
02:12:26,960 --> 02:12:30,860
donation is on behalf of our
brother who punched us in the

2331
02:12:30,860 --> 02:12:33,680
mouth over five years ago. We
can't thank you. Enough,

2332
02:12:33,740 --> 02:12:35,540
crackpot and Buzzkill. What's

2333
02:12:35,540 --> 02:12:36,380
Adam Curry: his brother's name?

2334
02:12:39,200 --> 02:12:43,480
John C Dvorak: Now here doesn't
say, oh boy, Walter Campbell's

2335
02:12:43,480 --> 02:12:48,100
brother, Walter, now you now, if
you're ever in Southern Vermont,

2336
02:12:48,100 --> 02:12:52,480
make sure to visit his business,
the crooked RAM restaurant, bar

2337
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:56,260
and cafe in Manchester, no
renowned for world class

2338
02:12:56,260 --> 02:13:01,560
seafood, wood fired pizza,
natural wines and impeccable

2339
02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:05,820
vibes. Seriously. Book your
reservation now if you want some

2340
02:13:05,820 --> 02:13:10,680
unpretentious gourmet offerings
that leave you ruminating on the

2341
02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:15,780
glorious aspects of life a true
oasis in the chaos of our modern

2342
02:13:15,780 --> 02:13:19,560
world, we wish everybody peace,
happiness and health and

2343
02:13:19,560 --> 02:13:24,740
blessings from our angels,
ancestors and the almighty Big

2344
02:13:25,100 --> 02:13:32,000
E, Hondo energy, visit the
crooked RAM. Vt.com today.

2345
02:13:32,060 --> 02:13:38,720
Adam Curry: Big E, Hondo energy,
beautiful. Thank you. Walter. Do

2346
02:13:38,720 --> 02:13:40,400
John C Dvorak: to be a plug for
the restroom.

2347
02:13:40,400 --> 02:13:44,740
Adam Curry: Sure seems that way.
Duke of Switzerland, sir Sander

2348
02:13:44,800 --> 02:13:50,320
from zandam, who doesn't know
him, he says, can you make this

2349
02:13:50,320 --> 02:13:55,300
a triple make it rain. Donation.
Oh, still in love with Bambi,

2350
02:13:55,540 --> 02:14:01,080
Raven and the other girl we see.
I didn't expect that we have

2351
02:14:01,080 --> 02:14:04,680
Bambi. Was there another girl? I
don't think there was another

2352
02:14:04,680 --> 02:14:06,540
girl at Club 33 was there?

2353
02:14:06,780 --> 02:14:09,300
John C Dvorak: I don't remember.
I mean, probably,

2354
02:14:10,980 --> 02:14:17,760
Adam Curry: um, let me see Bambi
Raven. Oh, well, we had no Raven

2355
02:14:17,760 --> 02:14:21,980
from Reseda and Bambi No. So I
can only do two. I only can do

2356
02:14:21,980 --> 02:14:25,340
two. Keep on producing. Best
podcasting university or Duke of

2357
02:14:25,340 --> 02:14:28,040
Switzerland, sir Sander from
zandam, up

2358
02:14:30,860 --> 02:14:33,800
Unknown: next, Bambi. Bambi onto
the stage. Give it up.

2359
02:14:42,200 --> 02:14:43,720
Adam Curry: Raven, some classic
stuff there.

2360
02:14:43,780 --> 02:14:47,440
John C Dvorak: All right, Matt
Bernier in Manassas Virginia

2361
02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:51,520
comes in. He's a first executive
producer, 280 201. Associate,

2362
02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:55,660
Executive Associate. I'm sorry
the show has been a big

2363
02:14:55,660 --> 02:14:59,920
contributor to my sanity as I
navigate it is a long note by.

2364
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,840
Of the way as I navigate the
fallen world while trying to

2365
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:08,760
remain hopeful and cheerful joy.
This donation is for your

2366
02:15:08,760 --> 02:15:13,320
courage and commitment to truth
over neutrality, truth over

2367
02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:16,680
neutral. That's interesting. I
like, yeah, we're committed to

2368
02:15:16,680 --> 02:15:18,000
truth over neutrality. That's

2369
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:18,900
Adam Curry: a bumper sticker.

2370
02:15:19,260 --> 02:15:21,740
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think so.
And to offset the haters trying

2371
02:15:21,740 --> 02:15:26,180
to call you out as having an
agenda which, even if true good,

2372
02:15:26,840 --> 02:15:30,860
the pursuit of what is right and
true. Trump's a podcast title

2373
02:15:30,860 --> 02:15:36,200
all day long. Thanks for doing
the work. Okay, perhaps the only

2374
02:15:36,200 --> 02:15:39,140
thing worse than the leftist
noodle boy is the modern man who

2375
02:15:39,140 --> 02:15:42,940
ignores all, ignores all
glowing, glowing, glaring

2376
02:15:42,940 --> 02:15:46,840
evidence while chasing some
lofty and unattainable goal of

2377
02:15:46,840 --> 02:15:50,380
complete and utter neutrality, I
don't think anybody does that,

2378
02:15:50,680 --> 02:15:55,480
usually accompanied by a claim
of I'm not political, or I'm not

2379
02:15:55,480 --> 02:16:00,300
gonna talk politics, and usually
for social reasons, I eat An

2380
02:16:00,300 --> 02:16:03,900
attempt not to lose favor with
his wife. You got a problem

2381
02:16:03,900 --> 02:16:07,740
already. There you go. That's
not good for fear of being

2382
02:16:07,740 --> 02:16:13,680
called racist or worse. Orange
is brave enough to have a

2383
02:16:13,680 --> 02:16:18,000
position fence sitters and
independents in 2024 are nothing

2384
02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:21,140
more than liberals and
libertarian clothing. We all

2385
02:16:21,140 --> 02:16:24,860
have an agenda. It's just that
some are more closely aligned

2386
02:16:24,980 --> 02:16:28,220
with courage and a sense of
what's right, rather than

2387
02:16:28,220 --> 02:16:32,180
cowardice and selfishness. Keep
the Faith fear into this guy's

2388
02:16:32,180 --> 02:16:37,040
like this like a psycho note.
Fear not and pray ceaselessly in

2389
02:16:37,040 --> 02:16:42,760
Christ. Future, sir. Uh has
amaticus PS Adam is right about

2390
02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:46,780
the tobacco companies in the
food drug industry. Please also

2391
02:16:46,780 --> 02:16:50,680
wish my smoking hot wife Audrey,
a happy birthday. Her birthday

2392
02:16:50,680 --> 02:16:54,160
is on the 26th jingles, don't
enslave me. Camel and noodle,

2393
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:58,240
gun pasta, Glock. Oh, mac and
cheese, cheap cheddar version.

2394
02:16:58,600 --> 02:17:01,380
JC, ghostly, donate. Jingle, oh,
I'm

2395
02:17:01,380 --> 02:17:04,200
Adam Curry: sorry I that didn't
show up on my spreadsheet. Hold

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on a second. Don't enslave me.
Camela, yeah. Noodle gun. Noodle

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gun, hold on a second. Sound,
geez. Noodle gun, cheese, mac

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and cheese, the cheap cheddar.

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John C Dvorak: Okay and donate
cheddar.

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Adam Curry: Okay and donate.
Jeez, I'm sorry I missed all of

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02:17:23,959 --> 02:17:26,359
those I didn't realize. Yeah,

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02:17:26,360 --> 02:17:27,980
John C Dvorak: you're good
enough to crank them out.

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02:17:28,880 --> 02:17:32,600
Unknown: What's this? What is
this? Do enslave me? Camel out.

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02:17:32,600 --> 02:17:32,840
I got

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02:17:42,559 --> 02:17:45,519
them up to my pasta Glock,
locked and loaded.

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02:17:46,780 --> 02:17:50,080
You slaves can get used to mac
and cheese, mac and cheese, mac

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02:17:50,260 --> 02:17:51,520
and cheese, macaroni

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02:17:51,520 --> 02:17:55,000
John C Dvorak: and cheap chatter
melted together, mac and cheese,

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02:17:55,000 --> 02:17:56,800
Unknown: mac and cheese, mac and
cheese, mac

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02:17:58,719 --> 02:17:59,859
and cheese. You've got donate

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02:18:02,799 --> 02:18:07,199
your donate karma.

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02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:11,940
Adam Curry: All right, let's
keep them a little shorter.

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02:18:11,940 --> 02:18:12,360
People.

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02:18:13,020 --> 02:18:16,320
John C Dvorak: Phillip Veenstra
and shy, this should be yours

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when I read it. Okay, in
Chatham, Illinois, 262 dot 60

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Dear John and Adam today, 926 is
my eldest daughter's Ella's 19th

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02:18:25,460 --> 02:18:29,060
birthday. This is her first
birthday away from home. Oh, she

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02:18:29,060 --> 02:18:32,960
bravely chose to move 900 miles
away and start the next stage of

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02:18:32,960 --> 02:18:36,740
her life at Coastal Carolina
University. She has more street

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02:18:36,740 --> 02:18:39,860
smarts and common sense than
most of her peers. For this, I

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02:18:39,860 --> 02:18:43,120
am proud. Happy birthday, Ella,
Mom and I love you very much.

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02:18:43,120 --> 02:18:45,460
Your sister and brother,
especially your sister, Miss you

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more than you know. Love mom and
dad. 262 60. Oh, that's

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02:18:50,079 --> 02:18:53,499
Adam Curry: so sweet. Yeah, you
could also just pick up the

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02:18:53,499 --> 02:18:55,419
phone and call Yes. How

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02:18:55,419 --> 02:18:56,559
John C Dvorak: about that for an
idea.

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02:18:57,639 --> 02:19:00,179
Adam Curry: Thank you. Phillip
Eli, the coffee guys in

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02:19:00,179 --> 02:19:03,419
bensonville, Illinois, 209 26
boots on the ground from

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Chicagoland, the local Costco
did not have the box Bordeaux

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02:19:06,959 --> 02:19:10,499
set. Instead, they have a box
set of European wines, which

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02:19:10,499 --> 02:19:13,739
includes a Bordeaux Spanish,
Italian and Portuguese reds for

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02:19:13,799 --> 02:19:17,879
$37 I haven't worked my way
through the mall yet, but the

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02:19:17,879 --> 02:19:23,359
Italian montpluciano, multiple
Gianna, multiple chiana went

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02:19:23,359 --> 02:19:25,939
well with the goat chops on the
grill I made the other day.

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02:19:25,939 --> 02:19:26,959
Still a deal goat

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02:19:26,960 --> 02:19:30,380
John C Dvorak: shops, a guy who
knows what he's doing with,

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02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:35,480
Adam Curry: yeah, he doesn't
know what he's doing with 90

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plus point wines for under $10 a
bottle. Can I get a goat scream?

2439
02:19:39,380 --> 02:19:43,240
Karma, although I do love wine
at gigawatt Coffee roasters.com

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our passion is coffee. So try a
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coffee guy,

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Unknown: you've got karma.

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02:19:58,660 --> 02:20:03,060
John C Dvorak: Lupe. In, all
right? In Lakewood, yes. And she

2445
02:20:03,060 --> 02:20:08,640
says, jobs karma, she wants. She
came in with $200 and

2446
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surprisingly, she asked for jobs
karma. Friend says, For a resume

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that gets results. Go to
imagemakers inc.com, for all

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search needs, that's

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I did it. Or find Linda Liu,

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Duchess of jobs and writer of
resumes on the producer list,

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jobs,

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02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:30,200
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote

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02:20:30,920 --> 02:20:32,480
for jobs karma. And

2454
02:20:33,800 --> 02:20:36,800
Adam Curry: finally, our last
Associate Executive Producer,

2455
02:20:36,800 --> 02:20:40,580
Austin McCullough in Hudson,
Wisconsin. Live donation. Thanks

2456
02:20:40,580 --> 02:20:44,800
for what you do. Knights hail
repair, Hudson, Wisconsin,

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02:20:44,860 --> 02:20:49,900
Austin, Texas. Hmm, okay, so
he's in Austin, Texas, or, I

2458
02:20:49,900 --> 02:20:52,420
don't know that's the note. And
thank you very much to all of

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02:20:52,420 --> 02:20:54,940
our executive and Associate
Executive producers for

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02:20:54,940 --> 02:21:00,660
producing episode 1698 on
towards 1700 the Commodores will

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02:21:00,660 --> 02:21:03,480
be honored a little bit, and of
course, we'll thank people $50

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02:21:03,720 --> 02:21:06,300
and above, but again, thank you
to our execs. These titles are

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02:21:06,300 --> 02:21:08,880
real. Use them anywhere. Titles
are

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02:21:10,620 --> 02:21:12,240
Unknown: recognized. We go out.
We

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02:21:12,240 --> 02:21:13,380
hit people in the mouth range.

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02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:30,920
John C Dvorak: I picked up a
pretty good analysis of

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02:21:30,920 --> 02:21:31,940
Hezbollah,

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02:21:32,240 --> 02:21:37,280
Unknown: Hezbollah Hezbollah
Hezbollah Hezbollah that

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02:21:37,700 --> 02:21:40,120
John C Dvorak: I thought was be
would people should listen to,

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02:21:40,120 --> 02:21:45,640
because it is, it kind of levels
out the playing field here,

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02:21:46,060 --> 02:21:53,920
since we're promoting Israel on
this show, it seems, uh huh. But

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02:21:55,420 --> 02:22:00,480
first, can we, let's play a kind
of a an overview. This is the I

2473
02:22:00,480 --> 02:22:04,800
have two overviews, one from
Democracy Now, which hates

2474
02:22:04,800 --> 02:22:09,420
Israel, yes, and it does. You
might as well play the warning

2475
02:22:09,420 --> 02:22:10,500
if you want warning.

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02:22:11,160 --> 02:22:12,240
Unknown: Amy Goodman, Cliff

2477
02:22:12,240 --> 02:22:12,720
inbound,

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02:22:13,320 --> 02:22:17,100
Adam Curry: all right, is that
one first? Yeah, please.

2479
02:22:17,160 --> 02:22:21,080
Unknown: 10s of 1000s of people
to fled southern Lebanon as

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02:22:21,080 --> 02:22:25,040
Israel's military continues its
intense artillery and missile

2481
02:22:25,040 --> 02:22:28,700
attacks. Lebanon's health
ministry reports the death toll

2482
02:22:28,700 --> 02:22:34,820
has climbed to at least 599
people, including 50 children.

2483
02:22:35,000 --> 02:22:38,720
Meanwhile, Hezbollah launched
dozens of drones and rockets at

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02:22:38,720 --> 02:22:42,400
Israel, including a long range
missile fired toward Tel Aviv

2485
02:22:42,400 --> 02:22:46,900
that was intercepted by Israeli
air defense systems. Israeli

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02:22:46,900 --> 02:22:50,440
public media is reporting
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav

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02:22:50,440 --> 02:22:54,580
gallant is readying troops for a
possible ground invasion of

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02:22:54,580 --> 02:22:59,920
Lebanon in Beirut. Officials say
they've secured shelters for

2489
02:22:59,920 --> 02:23:04,560
10,000 people displaced from
southern Lebanon, some of the

2490
02:23:04,560 --> 02:23:07,440
evacuees were forced into the
same shelters they fled to

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02:23:07,440 --> 02:23:12,960
nearly two decades ago during
Israel's july 2006 assault. This

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02:23:12,960 --> 02:23:17,760
is fairly a mess and a 58 year
old man who narrowly survived, a

2493
02:23:17,760 --> 02:23:21,320
58 year old who narrowly
survived a strike that destroyed

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02:23:21,320 --> 02:23:22,880
her family home.

2495
02:23:24,920 --> 02:23:27,140
The rocket

2496
02:23:27,140 --> 02:23:30,680
landed in front of me. I was
shocked. I couldn't hear or see

2497
02:23:30,680 --> 02:23:32,120
after that, I

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02:23:32,120 --> 02:23:36,140
Adam Curry: heard on the
military channels that IDF has

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02:23:36,140 --> 02:23:39,260
been given the go for the ground
invasion into Lebanon.

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02:23:40,640 --> 02:23:42,640
John C Dvorak: Well, I found a
whole and there's another report

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02:23:42,640 --> 02:23:48,580
here from NTD, but I'm going to
skip that one. The the we're not

2502
02:23:48,580 --> 02:23:52,420
given any background on this as
meaningful in the mainstream

2503
02:23:52,420 --> 02:23:58,720
media. And so again, NTD found
one of these guys who can give

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02:23:58,720 --> 02:24:02,460
us some background. And when you
listen to it, you realize that

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02:24:02,460 --> 02:24:05,520
the Israelis should do what
they're going to do, which is

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02:24:05,520 --> 02:24:09,780
ground invade. And I want to
play these as four clips and

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02:24:09,780 --> 02:24:15,180
this animal and analysis. L got
LZ has one Gotcha. And here to

2508
02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:15,660
discuss the

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02:24:15,660 --> 02:24:18,420
Unknown: latest developments in
the Middle East. With us is

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02:24:18,420 --> 02:24:21,080
David warmsert, Middle East
affairs analyst at the Center

2511
02:24:21,080 --> 02:24:23,720
for Security Policy. David,
thank you so much for joining

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02:24:23,720 --> 02:24:26,780
us. Great to see you again. Now
to begin as Israel and Hezbollah

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02:24:26,780 --> 02:24:30,380
trade strikes, Israel's military
chief says there could be a

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02:24:30,380 --> 02:24:33,920
possible ground incursion into
Lebanon. What would that look

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02:24:33,920 --> 02:24:36,320
like? Is this another war? Well,

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02:24:36,860 --> 02:24:40,300
it's good to be with you,
Tiffany, I think another ground

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02:24:40,300 --> 02:24:44,920
invasion is this would be the
third Israel would would have to

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02:24:44,920 --> 02:24:50,320
do over a period of 40 years. If
it happens. I would imagine it

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02:24:50,320 --> 02:24:54,760
would happen fairly soon. The
Israelis need to move Hezbollah

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02:24:54,760 --> 02:24:59,920
about 30 kilometers north 20
month, 20 to 25 miles north of.

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02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:04,500
Border because Hezbollah sits on
the border, ready to commit

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02:25:04,500 --> 02:25:08,820
against Israel what Hamas did to
Israel in the south, namely, to

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02:25:08,820 --> 02:25:13,560
cross the border, seize hundreds
of hostages and kill 1000s. So

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02:25:13,560 --> 02:25:16,740
the Israelis are unwilling to
live with that, so they have to

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02:25:16,740 --> 02:25:20,600
push this north. But at the
moment, that's a very dangerous

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02:25:20,600 --> 02:25:24,020
war for both the Lebanese and
the Israelis. So what you're

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02:25:24,020 --> 02:25:27,560
seeing is the Israelis do all
the preparatory work. The first

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02:25:27,560 --> 02:25:29,960
thing is they took out the
command and control, and that

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02:25:29,960 --> 02:25:33,800
was the famous beeper attack,
and then the walkie talkie

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02:25:33,800 --> 02:25:38,120
attack, and then essentially
killing off the leadership and

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02:25:38,240 --> 02:25:41,920
targeted strikes. Lately, what
you've seen is a lot of

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02:25:41,920 --> 02:25:44,800
preemptive strikes against
missiles, so that when the war

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02:25:44,800 --> 02:25:48,580
begins, Israel expected between
five and 10,000 missiles to be

2534
02:25:48,580 --> 02:25:53,380
hitting Israel per day. This
essentially preempts that, so it

2535
02:25:53,500 --> 02:25:57,580
tries to remove as much of that
from the battle as possible so

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02:25:57,580 --> 02:25:59,920
that the Israelis can focus on
the ground.

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02:26:00,220 --> 02:26:04,680
Adam Curry: I saw a video of a
huge explosion in Lebanon, like,

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02:26:04,860 --> 02:26:06,840
like, mini nuke level.

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02:26:07,620 --> 02:26:10,620
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was, I
think, a ammo dump or something.

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02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:14,220
I was pretty now, of course, we
still don't know what's what's

2541
02:26:14,220 --> 02:26:18,420
really going on here, and I you,
after you listen to these clips,

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02:26:18,420 --> 02:26:21,500
you have to take Israel's side
in this. And I think it, most of

2543
02:26:21,500 --> 02:26:23,180
it is brought out here in clip
to

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02:26:23,240 --> 02:26:25,700
Unknown: now, Israel has
repeatedly said that their goal

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02:26:25,700 --> 02:26:29,180
isn't to seek a ground war.
Rather, it is to push Hezbollah

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02:26:29,180 --> 02:26:32,600
north of the latani River, which
is what Hezbollah agreed to do

2547
02:26:32,600 --> 02:26:36,680
back in 2006 now talk to us
about the history here and how

2548
02:26:36,680 --> 02:26:39,500
that plays into what we're
seeing unfolding now, United

2549
02:26:39,500 --> 02:26:43,600
Nations in the last Israeli
invasion in 2006 what happens

2550
02:26:43,600 --> 02:26:47,980
is, in 1978 Israel was attacked
by the PLO, and a particularly

2551
02:26:47,980 --> 02:26:53,500
horrible after years of missiles
from the PLO, the Israelis and a

2552
02:26:53,500 --> 02:26:57,520
bus attack that killed 40 some,
Israelis invaded and took a

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02:26:57,520 --> 02:27:02,220
small strip of land. They
withdrew eventually, again,

2554
02:27:02,280 --> 02:27:05,940
another major attack and
violence. The Israelis reinvaded

2555
02:27:05,940 --> 02:27:11,820
in 82 this time, held on to a
piece of land until 19, until

2556
02:27:11,820 --> 02:27:16,320
roughly 2000 to prevent this
from happening again, the

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02:27:16,320 --> 02:27:19,980
Israelis withdrew, and Hezbollah
moved in immediately, and by

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02:27:19,980 --> 02:27:24,140
2006 they had attacked Israel,
seized some hostages, three

2559
02:27:24,140 --> 02:27:28,520
soldiers killed people and
constantly rocketing Northern

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02:27:28,520 --> 02:27:33,740
Israel. So Israel, in 2006 moved
in again, this time about 50

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02:27:33,740 --> 02:27:38,960
miles in. And the UN passed a
resolution, 1701 that demanded

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02:27:39,140 --> 02:27:42,640
all Israeli troops leave
Lebanon, which they did, and

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02:27:42,640 --> 02:27:46,600
they complied. The border beset,
which is what happened with the

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02:27:46,600 --> 02:27:52,660
UN a mission a few years later,
and Hezbollah withdraw. Stay

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02:27:52,720 --> 02:27:56,440
withdrawn. Namely, the Israelis
pushed them back. They can't

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02:27:56,440 --> 02:28:00,900
move forward below a certain
point, which Hezbollah instantly

2567
02:28:00,900 --> 02:28:03,780
violated. And then second,
itzballah was supposed to

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02:28:03,780 --> 02:28:06,960
disarm, because it's a militia.
It's not part of the Lebanese

2569
02:28:06,960 --> 02:28:10,980
Government, and they didn't no
flag on the play.

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02:28:11,940 --> 02:28:15,540
John C Dvorak: So 1701, is the
key here. Nobody discusses this

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02:28:15,540 --> 02:28:19,980
detail. The UN came in and told
Israel to do something, and told

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02:28:19,980 --> 02:28:24,920
Hezbollah to do something.
Israel complied. Hezbollah did

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02:28:24,920 --> 02:28:26,840
not well

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02:28:27,020 --> 02:28:29,900
Adam Curry: important there is,
and this is what I hear from

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02:28:29,900 --> 02:28:33,080
people in Lebanon, is like
they're sick of it too, like

2576
02:28:33,080 --> 02:28:38,660
this. These Hizballah guys are a
pain. The Lebanese don't want

2577
02:28:38,660 --> 02:28:39,860
this nonsense.

2578
02:28:40,220 --> 02:28:42,220
John C Dvorak: Of course, they
don't. Their country is already

2579
02:28:42,400 --> 02:28:46,600
teetering on the brook of a
Brook on the brink of on the

2580
02:28:46,600 --> 02:28:50,980
brink of bankruptcy. Let's go to
clip three.

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02:28:51,100 --> 02:28:53,500
Unknown: Hezbollah never lived
up to its side of seven

2582
02:28:53,860 --> 02:28:58,120
resolution 1701 and that's now
the Israeli demand that

2583
02:28:58,120 --> 02:29:02,820
resolution 1701 be actually
implemented. And if the UN and

2584
02:29:02,820 --> 02:29:06,900
the World doesn't force on
Hezbollah to live up to its

2585
02:29:06,900 --> 02:29:10,260
terms, the Israelis will go in
on the ground and force

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02:29:10,320 --> 02:29:12,300
Hezbollah to live up to its
terms.

2587
02:29:13,140 --> 02:29:15,660
And with these latest
developments, President Biden

2588
02:29:15,660 --> 02:29:19,020
has signaled, while an all out
war is possible in the Middle

2589
02:29:19,020 --> 02:29:21,920
East, the window for
negotiations is still there now.

2590
02:29:21,920 --> 02:29:24,680
Reports also cite an Israeli
official saying that Israeli

2591
02:29:24,680 --> 02:29:28,220
Prime Minister Netanyahu is open
to us efforts to mediate the

2592
02:29:28,220 --> 02:29:31,100
tensions with Lebanon. What
would that look like? What would

2593
02:29:31,100 --> 02:29:33,920
be in a deal that Israel would
accept? Yeah,

2594
02:29:33,980 --> 02:29:37,640
the Israelis basically need to
follow it to be deployed north,

2595
02:29:38,300 --> 02:29:42,400
not on the border, so that they
can't strike Israel any day of

2596
02:29:42,400 --> 02:29:47,320
the week to commit an October 7
like massacre, and that a good

2597
02:29:47,320 --> 02:29:50,560
number of the short range
missiles are distanced from the

2598
02:29:50,560 --> 02:29:54,640
Israeli border. The vast
majority of the missiles that

2599
02:29:54,640 --> 02:29:57,580
Hezbollah has are short range.
So if you move them back 40

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02:29:57,580 --> 02:30:02,160
miles or 20 miles even. You've
removed a lot of those missiles

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02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:05,400
from the from being able to hit
Israel you removed almost all of

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02:30:05,400 --> 02:30:08,880
them from hitting big Israeli
cities. So that's what the

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02:30:08,880 --> 02:30:13,140
Israelis are really after, and
they're using resolution 1701 UN

2604
02:30:13,140 --> 02:30:17,700
resolution 1701 basically as
their negotiating position that

2605
02:30:17,700 --> 02:30:22,400
if Hezbollah lives up to 1701
then that's the end of the

2606
02:30:22,400 --> 02:30:24,080
crisis with with Hezbollah.

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02:30:25,100 --> 02:30:27,620
Adam Curry: So is there anything
in this analysis that explains

2608
02:30:27,620 --> 02:30:30,260
why Hezbollah is doing this? Is
this?

2609
02:30:30,320 --> 02:30:31,940
John C Dvorak: Are they because
they're assholes? Are

2610
02:30:33,440 --> 02:30:35,300
Adam Curry: they doing the
bidding of Iran?

2611
02:30:36,320 --> 02:30:39,320
John C Dvorak: Well, they, they
do discuss a little bit of that.

2612
02:30:39,320 --> 02:30:43,060
I mean, that's basically what
you heard here, about 1701 is

2613
02:30:43,060 --> 02:30:46,600
the part I wanted to play. So
people have some idea that what

2614
02:30:46,600 --> 02:30:50,260
this is based on is some un
thing. There's big un, u n, u n,

2615
02:30:50,500 --> 02:30:54,400
so one side goes along with it.
They both agree, and then one

2616
02:30:54,400 --> 02:30:57,160
side does it, and the other side
doesn't. That's the problem that

2617
02:30:57,160 --> 02:31:02,760
we have up there. And so that's
the reason that this whole thing

2618
02:31:02,760 --> 02:31:06,900
is taking place. It's not
because of Netanyahu being a nut

2619
02:31:06,900 --> 02:31:10,740
case. Now, there is a little bit
of more discussion this guy.

2620
02:31:10,860 --> 02:31:15,600
Let's call it a bonus clip
number four, which kind of veers

2621
02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:19,140
off and talks about Iran a
little bit,

2622
02:31:19,320 --> 02:31:21,320
Unknown: and now, as the
conflicts in the Middle East

2623
02:31:21,320 --> 02:31:24,320
hang over the US elections. A
spokesman for former President

2624
02:31:24,320 --> 02:31:27,500
Trump said he was briefed about
the alleged Iranian plot to

2625
02:31:27,500 --> 02:31:30,440
assassinate him, adding that
quote, these continued and

2626
02:31:30,440 --> 02:31:32,960
coordinated attacks have
heightened in the past few

2627
02:31:32,960 --> 02:31:35,720
months. What do you make of
this, especially when it comes

2628
02:31:35,720 --> 02:31:38,660
to the topic of elections free
of foreign interference?

2629
02:31:39,080 --> 02:31:39,620
Yeah, well,

2630
02:31:39,680 --> 02:31:42,880
I mean an assassination attempt
by a foreign government is

2631
02:31:42,880 --> 02:31:46,480
obviously the highest form of
election interference. Iran is

2632
02:31:46,480 --> 02:31:50,320
really the story here. We can
talk about Hamas, we can talk

2633
02:31:50,320 --> 02:31:55,540
about Hezbollah, but these are
all battlegrounds pieces on the

2634
02:31:55,540 --> 02:32:00,540
chessboard that Iran is moving
around and it's very afraid of

2635
02:32:00,540 --> 02:32:03,540
American policy going in a
certain direction that could be

2636
02:32:03,540 --> 02:32:07,440
tougher against it. The Iranians
have killed people abroad who

2637
02:32:07,440 --> 02:32:11,040
will stand in their way
consistently since, literally

2638
02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:14,700
the day they took office, they
killed their opposition, and

2639
02:32:14,700 --> 02:32:18,300
Iranians abroad who opposed
them, anybody who violated Islam

2640
02:32:18,300 --> 02:32:22,640
and there were in their mind,
they passed the fatwa that said,

2641
02:32:22,700 --> 02:32:25,940
you need to kill them. And we
saw with Salman Rushdie, who was

2642
02:32:25,940 --> 02:32:29,780
one of the victims of those
fatwa 40 years later, they did

2643
02:32:29,780 --> 02:32:36,200
it so there's no expiration date
on their murderous directives.

2644
02:32:36,740 --> 02:32:40,340
And after Soleimani was killed,
they base, they outright,

2645
02:32:40,340 --> 02:32:43,600
openly, brazenly said they'll
kill him. They'll kill President

2646
02:32:43,600 --> 02:32:47,380
Trump for having done that, and
they've been trying. And they

2647
02:32:47,800 --> 02:32:51,340
annually put out new videos
fantasizing about how they would

2648
02:32:51,340 --> 02:32:57,580
kill him, quite graphic videos.
So there's no surprise here that

2649
02:32:57,640 --> 02:33:00,600
President Trump is in their
crosshairs, and they're trying

2650
02:33:00,600 --> 02:33:04,860
hard to assassinate him, as well
as other former officials, John

2651
02:33:04,860 --> 02:33:09,000
Bolton, Brian hook and others
who they see as having been anti

2652
02:33:09,000 --> 02:33:11,160
Iranian. Now,

2653
02:33:11,220 --> 02:33:13,260
Adam Curry: okay, couple of
things here. First of all,

2654
02:33:13,260 --> 02:33:16,620
Wednesday, I find it always
dangerous because they don't say

2655
02:33:16,620 --> 02:33:22,400
Lebanon, they say they don't say
Gaza or Palestinians, they say

2656
02:33:22,400 --> 02:33:26,660
Hamas. But when it comes to
Iran, it's just Iran, but it's

2657
02:33:26,660 --> 02:33:30,380
not it's the Iranian
Revolutionary Guard, or, you

2658
02:33:30,380 --> 02:33:33,200
know, the the mullahs, or
whatever it is. What do we call

2659
02:33:33,200 --> 02:33:35,420
it? What name do we put on those
guys? Joel, you

2660
02:33:35,420 --> 02:33:36,020
John C Dvorak: tell me,

2661
02:33:36,380 --> 02:33:40,040
Adam Curry: I don't know, but I
find it a little precarious,

2662
02:33:40,040 --> 02:33:42,220
because there's a lot of nice
people in

2663
02:33:42,220 --> 02:33:43,600
Unknown: Iran, yeah.

2664
02:33:43,840 --> 02:33:44,860
I mean, you know, and

2665
02:33:44,860 --> 02:33:46,480
John C Dvorak: they're all
young, very

2666
02:33:46,480 --> 02:33:54,340
Adam Curry: young, very pretty,
very demure. Well, I have a, I

2667
02:33:54,520 --> 02:33:58,120
have a clip here about Trump,
about this very topic. If I

2668
02:33:58,120 --> 02:34:01,740
Unknown: were president and a
former president and a leading

2669
02:34:01,740 --> 02:34:05,160
candidate. I'm the leading
candidate by far, to be the next

2670
02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:13,320
president, and that leading
candidate was under threat. But

2671
02:34:13,320 --> 02:34:16,920
if I were the president, I would
inform the threatening country,

2672
02:34:17,340 --> 02:34:21,500
in this case, Iran, that if you
do anything to harm this person.

2673
02:34:21,500 --> 02:34:25,520
We are going to blow your
largest cities and the country

2674
02:34:25,520 --> 02:34:29,420
itself to smithereens. We're
going to blow it to smithereens.

2675
02:34:29,420 --> 02:34:34,040
You can't do that. Can't do
that, and there would be no more

2676
02:34:34,040 --> 02:34:38,900
threats. There would be no more
threats. But right now, we don't

2677
02:34:38,900 --> 02:34:42,880
have that leadership, or the
necessary people, the necessary

2678
02:34:42,880 --> 02:34:47,440
leaders. We have two people, not
one. We don't even know who our

2679
02:34:47,440 --> 02:34:52,420
president is right now. Who is
our President right now? We

2680
02:34:52,420 --> 02:34:55,960
really don't know. But we have
two people, not one, that only

2681
02:34:55,960 --> 02:35:00,960
keep looking, and when you do
that, when you just look. The

2682
02:35:00,960 --> 02:35:04,800
trouble always ensues. So it's
big trouble for our country.

2683
02:35:05,820 --> 02:35:09,060
Meanwhile, we have the president
of Iran in our country this

2684
02:35:09,060 --> 02:35:12,960
week, we have large security
forces guarding him, and yet

2685
02:35:12,960 --> 02:35:15,540
they're threatening our former
president and the leading

2686
02:35:15,540 --> 02:35:19,320
candidate to become the next
president of the United States.

2687
02:35:19,380 --> 02:35:23,900
Certainly a strange set of
circumstances.

2688
02:35:25,220 --> 02:35:27,860
Adam Curry: Have some better
audio of him talking about Iran.

2689
02:35:27,920 --> 02:35:33,020
They're eating the dogs. There
you go. But we are not sitting

2690
02:35:33,020 --> 02:35:36,200
still as the United States,
because war is always a racket,

2691
02:35:36,200 --> 02:35:38,780
always good for money. Let's
send some troops.

2692
02:35:38,780 --> 02:35:40,840
Unknown: The US is sending
additional troops to the Middle

2693
02:35:40,840 --> 02:35:43,420
East in response to the
escalation of violence between

2694
02:35:43,420 --> 02:35:47,320
Israel and Hezbollah forces in
Lebanon, the Pentagon did not

2695
02:35:47,320 --> 02:35:50,380
provide specifics on the number
of troops or what their task

2696
02:35:50,380 --> 02:35:53,800
will be Once in position. It
comes after Israel launched a

2697
02:35:53,800 --> 02:35:57,520
new wave of air strikes
targeting Hezbollah weapon sites

2698
02:35:57,520 --> 02:36:01,560
in Lebanon. Lebanese officials
say at least 490 people were

2699
02:36:01,560 --> 02:36:05,940
killed in yesterday's strikes
and more than 1200 wounded.

2700
02:36:06,300 --> 02:36:09,660
Hezbollah launched attacks of
its own over the weekend, firing

2701
02:36:09,660 --> 02:36:14,640
at least 100 rockets into Israel
another 75 this morning. The

2702
02:36:14,640 --> 02:36:17,700
escalation and violence comes as
world leaders are in New York

2703
02:36:17,700 --> 02:36:21,440
this week for meeting of the UN
General Assembly, and

2704
02:36:22,160 --> 02:36:25,640
Adam Curry: if we can move off
of Iran into the new world

2705
02:36:25,640 --> 02:36:27,740
order, who is in New York?
Before

2706
02:36:27,740 --> 02:36:29,900
John C Dvorak: we do that, we
could play a couple of clips

2707
02:36:29,900 --> 02:36:32,780
from the UN meeting that was
just mentioned. That's what

2708
02:36:32,780 --> 02:36:36,680
Adam Curry: I was going to do.
Why don't you? You go ahead.

2709
02:36:36,740 --> 02:36:40,360
John C Dvorak: I have two. I
have the UN hate Israel speeches

2710
02:36:40,360 --> 02:36:43,780
from democracy now who would
only play such things here

2711
02:36:43,780 --> 02:36:47,020
Unknown: in New York, world
leaders gathered for the United

2712
02:36:47,020 --> 02:36:51,640
Nations General Assembly Tuesday
condemned Israel's Assaults on

2713
02:36:51,640 --> 02:36:55,900
Palestine and Lebanon. Turkish
President Richard Tayyip Erdogan

2714
02:36:55,900 --> 02:36:59,500
accused Israel of committing
genocide and Gaza and said the

2715
02:36:59,500 --> 02:37:03,180
failure of nations to stop the
violence show the United Nations

2716
02:37:03,180 --> 02:37:08,040
system and western values are
dying. Chilean President Gabriel

2717
02:37:08,040 --> 02:37:12,060
Boric also condemned Israel's
actions. Why? I

2718
02:37:12,060 --> 02:37:15,000
refuse to choose between the
hamesses terrorism or the

2719
02:37:15,000 --> 02:37:19,440
massacre and genocidal behavior
of Netanyahu. Israel. We do not

2720
02:37:19,440 --> 02:37:22,820
have to choose between
barbarities, I choose humanity.

2721
02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:25,940
We denounce the illegal
occupation of the Palestinian

2722
02:37:25,940 --> 02:37:29,240
territories and the de facto
denial of the existence of an

2723
02:37:29,240 --> 02:37:33,260
independent Palestinian state by
the occupying country. UN

2724
02:37:33,260 --> 02:37:36,680
Secretary General, Antonio
Guterres accused Israel of

2725
02:37:36,680 --> 02:37:40,160
violating the United Nations
Charter and said too many

2726
02:37:40,160 --> 02:37:43,480
governments are turning a blind
eye to international human

2727
02:37:43,480 --> 02:37:46,240
rights conventions and the
decisions of international

2728
02:37:46,240 --> 02:37:51,640
courts. Meanwhile, Joe Biden
delivered his last speech to the

2729
02:37:51,640 --> 02:37:55,780
United Nations as US President
calling for a diplomatic

2730
02:37:55,780 --> 02:37:59,500
solution to end Israel's war on
a Gaza, even as his

2731
02:37:59,500 --> 02:38:03,300
administration continues to
provide weapons and billions of

2732
02:38:03,300 --> 02:38:06,120
dollars in aid to Israel's
military.

2733
02:38:07,020 --> 02:38:10,380
John C Dvorak: No mention of
1701, by her. And I just wanted

2734
02:38:10,380 --> 02:38:12,780
this last clip. I'm just going
to get it out of the way for

2735
02:38:12,780 --> 02:38:15,300
you, because I this is a no
agenda exclusive,

2736
02:38:15,360 --> 02:38:16,620
Adam Curry: no an exclusive.

2737
02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:20,340
John C Dvorak: This is the UN
speech, the Zelensky a summary

2738
02:38:20,340 --> 02:38:23,840
of his, his lengthy speech at
the UN Zelensky

2739
02:38:23,840 --> 02:38:26,960
Unknown: added that more aid
from Western nations is needed.

2740
02:38:27,500 --> 02:38:32,300
Adam Curry: My money. My money.
The big kind of thing that

2741
02:38:32,300 --> 02:38:37,160
happened at the UN was not
discussed much in the M 5m also

2742
02:38:37,160 --> 02:38:43,360
known as legacy media, and that
is the, I'm taking a page from

2743
02:38:43,360 --> 02:38:49,060
the view here. That is the pact
for the future. The pact for the

2744
02:38:49,060 --> 02:38:54,340
future, which was, was it pact?
I think that means an agreement

2745
02:38:54,580 --> 02:38:58,540
everybody signed on to it pact,
the pact for the future, which,

2746
02:38:58,540 --> 02:39:04,140
of course, reasserts, reconfirms
all of the SDGs, the sustainable

2747
02:39:04,140 --> 02:39:06,060
development goals and then some.

2748
02:39:06,120 --> 02:39:08,700
Bag: The UN General Assembly
kicked off a marathon week of

2749
02:39:08,700 --> 02:39:10,980
diplomacy with a summit for the
future.

2750
02:39:11,460 --> 02:39:15,360
Unknown: I called for this
summit because our world is

2751
02:39:15,420 --> 02:39:20,480
ebbing off the rails, and we
need tough decisions to get back

2752
02:39:20,720 --> 02:39:22,160
on track, the

2753
02:39:22,160 --> 02:39:26,300
Bag: signature event adopted by
consensus, a wide ranging pact

2754
02:39:26,300 --> 02:39:27,140
for the future.

2755
02:39:27,260 --> 02:39:29,720
Adam Curry: By consensus means
there are about eight countries

2756
02:39:29,720 --> 02:39:31,820
that said, No, we're not signing
this nonsense,

2757
02:39:31,940 --> 02:39:34,640
Bag: a blueprint aimed at
ensuring that international

2758
02:39:34,640 --> 02:39:37,700
institutions can deliver in a
world that has changed

2759
02:39:37,700 --> 02:39:42,640
dramatically since they were
created in 1945 Russia, which

2760
02:39:42,640 --> 02:39:45,400
raised numerous objections to
elements of the pact as the

2761
02:39:45,400 --> 02:39:49,240
months long negotiations were
wrapping up last week, sought to

2762
02:39:49,240 --> 02:39:52,960
amend the document moments
before its adoption, but failed.

2763
02:39:53,080 --> 02:39:56,860
The pact has lofty goals for
eradicating poverty, ending

2764
02:39:56,860 --> 02:40:00,840
hunger, and building peaceful
and inclusive society. 90s, it

2765
02:40:00,840 --> 02:40:05,040
also seeks to bridge the digital
divide. Now, the hard work of

2766
02:40:05,040 --> 02:40:07,140
implementing it begins, but

2767
02:40:07,140 --> 02:40:10,440
Unknown: our people know
instinctively that this will

2768
02:40:10,440 --> 02:40:14,940
only be talk unless there's a
fundamental change in what we do

2769
02:40:15,120 --> 02:40:18,960
and how we do it, and who is
seen and heard in the corridors

2770
02:40:18,960 --> 02:40:20,040
of decision making,

2771
02:40:20,100 --> 02:40:23,120
Bag: the Secretary General met
one on one with several world

2772
02:40:23,120 --> 02:40:27,200
leaders Sunday, including Leslie
Voltaire, a member of Haiti's

2773
02:40:27,200 --> 02:40:30,560
transitional Presidential
Council. They discussed the need

2774
02:40:30,560 --> 02:40:34,940
to ensure an elected government
is in place by February 2026 as

2775
02:40:34,940 --> 02:40:36,920
agreed by Haitian stakeholders.

2776
02:40:37,520 --> 02:40:40,720
Adam Curry: I love that. Yeah,
we'll fix that in 2026 don't

2777
02:40:40,720 --> 02:40:43,720
worry about it. It's good
decision. Stake. It's good for,

2778
02:40:43,720 --> 02:40:46,540
yeah, oh yeah, the stakeholders
of Haiti. We know what that

2779
02:40:46,540 --> 02:40:49,960
means. Rape them. Let's get all
let's get everything out there

2780
02:40:49,960 --> 02:40:50,620
we can.

2781
02:40:51,100 --> 02:40:53,260
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that guy's
good from democracy now. Oh,

2782
02:40:53,320 --> 02:40:53,680
quick,

2783
02:40:53,800 --> 02:40:56,200
Adam Curry: I want to tell you
about the pact for the future.

2784
02:40:57,220 --> 02:40:58,720
John C Dvorak: Oh, okay, well,
I'm just gonna tell you the

2785
02:40:58,720 --> 02:41:00,840
Haitians are suing Trump. Yeah.

2786
02:41:00,840 --> 02:41:04,800
Adam Curry: Well, we'll get to
that. The so the pack, so the

2787
02:41:04,800 --> 02:41:08,640
come the countries that did not
join in the pact, although,

2788
02:41:08,640 --> 02:41:11,040
John C Dvorak: of course, it was
obviously the United States

2789
02:41:11,040 --> 02:41:13,560
wouldn't join such a stupid
thing. Yeah, we

2790
02:41:13,560 --> 02:41:19,080
Adam Curry: did. Russia, Iran,
Chad, also known as Chad, Chad,

2791
02:41:19,320 --> 02:41:26,240
Chad, Afghanistan, Haiti,
Somalia and Nicola Haiti. No

2792
02:41:26,480 --> 02:41:34,280
Haiti did not sign on, because
what this pact enables is a full

2793
02:41:34,280 --> 02:41:40,720
digitization to control the
masses. The pact includes the

2794
02:41:40,720 --> 02:41:49,240
idea of biometric digital ID for
every global citizen. Of course,

2795
02:41:49,240 --> 02:41:54,100
a lot of it is tied to banking
and what we would call social

2796
02:41:54,100 --> 02:41:55,540
credit scores.

2797
02:41:57,640 --> 02:42:00,960
John C Dvorak: And did China
sign on? Yes,

2798
02:42:01,020 --> 02:42:03,000
Adam Curry: China did. So
they're good. They're probably

2799
02:42:03,000 --> 02:42:07,080
providing the technology. Now,
as that lady just said, you

2800
02:42:07,080 --> 02:42:10,380
know, they was just words, not
deeds. So we got to do it. We

2801
02:42:10,380 --> 02:42:13,440
got to do it. And the and I did
not get this clip, but the

2802
02:42:13,440 --> 02:42:17,940
guerres, the UN Secretary
General said, you know, part of

2803
02:42:17,940 --> 02:42:22,700
this pact in the event of a
global shock, gives us some

2804
02:42:22,700 --> 02:42:27,020
extra powers. Of course, a
global shock would be determined

2805
02:42:27,020 --> 02:42:33,020
by him, sure. So it's, it's more
posturing, and people always get

2806
02:42:33,020 --> 02:42:37,280
worried, oh, United Nations. But
I think that just shut down that

2807
02:42:37,280 --> 02:42:40,480
thing. I mean, clearly if 1701,
doesn't mean anything to them,

2808
02:42:40,720 --> 02:42:43,540
yeah, they never meant, yeah,
exactly. They don't do anything.

2809
02:42:43,540 --> 02:42:50,080
So I do have following on on
your un, your un exclusive of

2810
02:42:50,080 --> 02:42:55,600
Zelensky. Zelensky was in the
United States. He today he is

2811
02:42:55,600 --> 02:43:00,720
presenting the victory plan to
President Biden again. In fact,

2812
02:43:00,720 --> 02:43:02,220
he's presenting it to everybody

2813
02:43:02,280 --> 02:43:04,860
Unknown: as his motorcade
approached the ammunition plant,

2814
02:43:04,920 --> 02:43:07,440
a small number of supporters
gathered to show their

2815
02:43:07,440 --> 02:43:10,800
appreciation for Volodymyr
zelenskyy Visit like three

2816
02:43:10,800 --> 02:43:17,340
Adam Curry: people and a dog,
Ukraine. What did he say? Yeah,

2817
02:43:17,340 --> 02:43:18,000
Ukraine,

2818
02:43:18,420 --> 02:43:20,600
Unknown: but the Ukrainian
president was there to give

2819
02:43:20,600 --> 02:43:24,440
thanks himself, as factory
workers ramp up production of

2820
02:43:24,440 --> 02:43:29,360
155 millimeter artillery shells,
rounds desperately needed by the

2821
02:43:29,360 --> 02:43:32,300
Ukrainian army to fight off
Russian advances. You

2822
02:43:32,300 --> 02:43:34,940
Adam Curry: see, I told you how
the Ukraine money goes to us.

2823
02:43:35,000 --> 02:43:37,220
It's so good. It's good for
business.

2824
02:43:37,460 --> 02:43:40,360
Unknown: At one point in the
war, Ukraine was firing between

2825
02:43:40,360 --> 02:43:44,560
six and 8000 of the shells per
day, which started to deplete

2826
02:43:44,560 --> 02:43:48,460
American stockpiles. The US now
aims to manufacture 100,000

2827
02:43:49,300 --> 02:43:52,900
rounds per month. The visit
kicked off a busy week for

2828
02:43:52,900 --> 02:43:56,740
Zelensky in the US as he tries
to shore up support for kyiv's

2829
02:43:56,740 --> 02:44:00,300
war effort. After speaking at
the UN General Assembly on

2830
02:44:00,300 --> 02:44:03,420
Tuesday and Wednesday, he'll
hold talks with Joe Biden and

2831
02:44:03,420 --> 02:44:06,900
Kamala Harris in Washington on
Thursday, and is expected to

2832
02:44:06,900 --> 02:44:08,160
meet with Donald Trump.

2833
02:44:08,220 --> 02:44:10,560
Adam Curry: No, that's very
interesting.

2834
02:44:10,740 --> 02:44:11,880
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
that's

2835
02:44:11,880 --> 02:44:15,240
Adam Curry: dubious. Of course,
it was just an outrage that the

2836
02:44:15,240 --> 02:44:22,460
governor of Pennsylvania is
there with Zelensky signing the

2837
02:44:22,460 --> 02:44:27,860
missiles, putting an autograph
on missiles that will go into

2838
02:44:27,860 --> 02:44:29,840
Russia. Yeah,

2839
02:44:29,840 --> 02:44:30,740
John C Dvorak: to kill people.
To

2840
02:44:30,740 --> 02:44:32,480
Adam Curry: kill people. It's
like, yeah, good

2841
02:44:32,480 --> 02:44:34,520
John C Dvorak: deal of Shapiro's
there on this. Johnny on the

2842
02:44:34,520 --> 02:44:40,040
spy. Have you seen the the meme
of it? No, they have Zelensky

2843
02:44:40,040 --> 02:44:43,300
standing there, and he's signing
what looks like giant butt

2844
02:44:43,300 --> 02:44:43,840
plugs.

2845
02:44:46,060 --> 02:44:49,060
Adam Curry: Okay, I missed that
one. That was good. That was

2846
02:44:49,060 --> 02:44:57,280
good. Just briefly. Back to the
hostages in Gaza. Gaza the Prime

2847
02:44:57,280 --> 02:45:02,400
Minister of the United Kingdom
and. Had a very strange gaffe.

2848
02:45:02,640 --> 02:45:06,180
Unknown: So I call again for
restraint and de escalation at

2849
02:45:06,180 --> 02:45:10,140
the border between Lebanon and
Israel. Again, again, all

2850
02:45:10,140 --> 02:45:16,620
parties to pull back from the
brink. I call again for an

2851
02:45:16,620 --> 02:45:20,220
immediate ceasefire in Gaza, the
return of the specialty

2852
02:45:21,420 --> 02:45:25,400
Adam Curry: the I mean, I gotta
ask. I mean,

2853
02:45:25,400 --> 02:45:27,440
John C Dvorak: as you got the
long version of that, yeah, I

2854
02:45:27,440 --> 02:45:28,220
had to watch

2855
02:45:28,280 --> 02:45:30,200
Adam Curry: three different
versions. I said, this has got

2856
02:45:30,200 --> 02:45:34,280
to be AI, but it doesn't appear
to be. He said, The Return of

2857
02:45:34,280 --> 02:45:38,240
the sausages. Yeah, what? What
does this guy have?

2858
02:45:38,240 --> 02:45:41,500
John C Dvorak: He was hungry.
His breakfast sausages on his

2859
02:45:41,500 --> 02:45:43,660
mind, those delicious British
bangers,

2860
02:45:43,720 --> 02:45:47,020
Adam Curry: bangers, the
bangers. What that is the just

2861
02:45:47,020 --> 02:45:52,060
about the oddest thing, let me
hear it again, the return of the

2862
02:45:52,060 --> 02:45:58,360
sausages. I want all sausages
returned living I

2863
02:45:58,360 --> 02:46:00,420
John C Dvorak: mean that I
couldn't find any evidence that

2864
02:46:00,420 --> 02:46:01,260
was fake. That was

2865
02:46:01,260 --> 02:46:05,520
Adam Curry: bizarre. That was
just truly bizarre, didn't I

2866
02:46:05,520 --> 02:46:07,740
don't, I don't know how that
happens to you.

2867
02:46:08,040 --> 02:46:10,020
Unknown: He said it is something
you do.

2868
02:46:10,200 --> 02:46:11,880
Adam Curry: Well, this, I mean,

2869
02:46:12,120 --> 02:46:15,420
John C Dvorak: I like doing
does? It was with flair. Return

2870
02:46:15,420 --> 02:46:20,100
Adam Curry: to return the
sausages. Bring back my sausage.

2871
02:46:20,640 --> 02:46:25,280
Yes, it was bizarre. Very
bizarre. These people have no

2872
02:46:25,280 --> 02:46:27,440
business running anything.
Here's

2873
02:46:27,440 --> 02:46:29,780
John C Dvorak: another story
that you didn't hear anywhere

2874
02:46:29,780 --> 02:46:32,780
else. This on Democracy Now you
hear about the shooting at the

2875
02:46:32,780 --> 02:46:34,880
Harris headquarters. I

2876
02:46:34,880 --> 02:46:39,440
Adam Curry: read an article
about it. Let me see shooting at

2877
02:46:39,440 --> 02:46:40,400
Harris shooting.

2878
02:46:40,460 --> 02:46:43,000
Unknown: Okay, the Chancellor of
New York City's public school

2879
02:46:43,000 --> 02:46:46,960
system is stepping down amidst a
growing federal bribery

2880
02:46:46,960 --> 02:46:49,660
investigation. David Banks
announcement comes.

2881
02:46:49,660 --> 02:46:53,140
Adam Curry: I'm sorry that's New
York corruption. Wrong clip,

2882
02:46:53,140 --> 02:46:53,680
wrong clip.

2883
02:46:53,740 --> 02:46:56,740
Unknown: The Arizona Democratic
Party says a campaign office for

2884
02:46:56,740 --> 02:47:01,320
vice president Kamala Harris and
Tempe was damaged by gunfire

2885
02:47:01,380 --> 02:47:04,920
overnight Tuesday. It's the
second time bullet holes have

2886
02:47:04,920 --> 02:47:08,640
appeared in the offices windows
in recent weeks. Harris is

2887
02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:11,100
planning to visit Arizona in the
coming days, where she's

2888
02:47:11,100 --> 02:47:14,400
reportedly planning to visit the
US Mexico border. That's

2889
02:47:14,400 --> 02:47:16,440
Adam Curry: not good. Oh, it's

2890
02:47:16,440 --> 02:47:18,960
John C Dvorak: just come on this
Arizona with a bunch of guys

2891
02:47:18,960 --> 02:47:22,220
with driving around with guns
and, you know, so like, three in

2892
02:47:22,220 --> 02:47:24,740
the morning, a bunch of drunk
kids, and they take a couple pot

2893
02:47:24,740 --> 02:47:29,360
shots at the headquarters. Okay,
well, I'd be rather guys in the

2894
02:47:29,360 --> 02:47:32,420
deep south to keep shooting the
stop signs with a shotgun.

2895
02:47:34,100 --> 02:47:37,340
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's a the
when we had the sheriff race

2896
02:47:37,340 --> 02:47:42,340
here in Gillespie County. The
sign for the outgo. Now,

2897
02:47:42,340 --> 02:47:46,780
outgoing sheriff was shot up by
a shotgun. We're getting a cool

2898
02:47:46,780 --> 02:47:49,660
new sheriff here. There's a new
sheriff in town. In Gillespie.

2899
02:47:50,140 --> 02:47:52,900
Did I tell you about this that
my my buddy, Mike, the the

2900
02:47:52,900 --> 02:47:55,900
former cop from uh, Kerrville,
with anger management issues,

2901
02:47:55,900 --> 02:47:56,980
he's going to be

2902
02:47:57,220 --> 02:47:59,680
John C Dvorak: the anger
management guy. Oh, yeah, issues

2903
02:47:59,680 --> 02:48:01,500
and he's gonna be the sheriff?
Yeah, no, he's

2904
02:48:01,500 --> 02:48:04,020
Adam Curry: he's gonna be like,
he's gonna be training the SWAT

2905
02:48:04,020 --> 02:48:10,560
team, I think. Oh, yeah, hey,
he's my friend. So is good now

2906
02:48:10,620 --> 02:48:11,280
he's good.

2907
02:48:12,360 --> 02:48:14,880
John C Dvorak: Then I do have
one Biden clip about the storm.

2908
02:48:14,880 --> 02:48:17,220
We didn't talk too much about
the hurricanes. We did a little

2909
02:48:17,220 --> 02:48:19,380
earlier, but we didn't play the
Biden clip.

2910
02:48:20,520 --> 02:48:25,880
Adam Curry: Um, okay, I'm
looking for it. Biden, well, I

2911
02:48:25,880 --> 02:48:29,540
only have one Biden clip. Biden
Vax message, I don't see any

2912
02:48:29,540 --> 02:48:32,480
other. Biden, yeah. Is that's
the one,

2913
02:48:32,900 --> 02:48:33,680
Unknown: yep, oh,

2914
02:48:33,800 --> 02:48:37,220
let me be clear. If you're in a
state where hurricanes often

2915
02:48:37,220 --> 02:48:40,720
strike, a vital part of
preparing for hurricane season

2916
02:48:40,720 --> 02:48:43,120
is to get vaccinated. Now,

2917
02:48:43,180 --> 02:48:49,840
Adam Curry: this is an old clip.
John, is it? Yes? Yes. Biden,

2918
02:48:49,840 --> 02:48:55,180
vaccinated storm, yeah, yeah,
for sure. That's a very old

2919
02:48:55,420 --> 02:48:57,220
clip. Well,

2920
02:48:57,220 --> 02:48:59,560
John C Dvorak: I got suckered
then, yeah, since there's a

2921
02:48:59,560 --> 02:49:01,020
storm going on on right now.

2922
02:49:02,520 --> 02:49:06,420
Adam Curry: Let me see. Let me
just, I'm that's why there's 99%

2923
02:49:07,260 --> 02:49:10,680
sure that's, that's an old clip.
Well, that's

2924
02:49:10,680 --> 02:49:11,640
John C Dvorak: a good message.

2925
02:49:11,880 --> 02:49:14,040
Adam Curry: Yes, that's what you
want to do when there's a storm.

2926
02:49:14,520 --> 02:49:21,560
Yeah, get vaccinated. Stacy
Plaskett, who is a Democrat

2927
02:49:21,560 --> 02:49:26,480
representative. She's the one
that years back said Donald

2928
02:49:26,480 --> 02:49:29,240
Trump needs to be shot. You've
seen her,

2929
02:49:29,540 --> 02:49:31,520
Unknown: yeah, she,

2930
02:49:31,520 --> 02:49:34,700
Adam Curry: she's she did it
again. She said the quiet part

2931
02:49:34,700 --> 02:49:37,460
out loud. It was quite telling.
In this case, it was about the

2932
02:49:37,520 --> 02:49:38,420
FBI.

2933
02:49:38,720 --> 02:49:42,340
Unknown: What is the point of
this subcommittee because it's

2934
02:49:42,340 --> 02:49:47,260
necessary for the public and the
media to hear to try and provide

2935
02:49:47,260 --> 02:49:51,100
cover for the eradication of the
Department of Justice and the

2936
02:49:51,100 --> 02:49:55,240
FBI. We are having these
hearings so that you become

2937
02:49:55,360 --> 02:50:01,260
immune, you become inured to the
notion of the. Removal of the

2938
02:50:01,260 --> 02:50:06,780
FBI and DOJ, so that those
agencies are no longer there to

2939
02:50:06,780 --> 02:50:11,160
serve as a check against white
nationalism, great replacement

2940
02:50:11,160 --> 02:50:15,180
theorists, Christian
nationalists, white fragility,

2941
02:50:15,420 --> 02:50:20,300
fascists and the twice impeached
convicted felon, former

2942
02:50:20,300 --> 02:50:23,180
president and would be dictator
Donald Trump.

2943
02:50:24,020 --> 02:50:27,860
Adam Curry: So the FBI is there
to get me on three of those six

2944
02:50:27,860 --> 02:50:28,580
counts,

2945
02:50:31,040 --> 02:50:33,800
John C Dvorak: I guess. So that
is, are you I'd keep I'd watch

2946
02:50:33,800 --> 02:50:36,680
my back. You know, might have
some Bull. I live in California.

2947
02:50:36,680 --> 02:50:38,300
I'm safe. Yeah? You

2948
02:50:39,980 --> 02:50:41,980
Adam Curry: Yeah, you are safe.
You are safe.

2949
02:50:43,420 --> 02:50:45,460
John C Dvorak: Then, then she's
nuts, that woman.

2950
02:50:46,180 --> 02:50:48,160
Unknown: How do people vote for
people like that? I

2951
02:50:48,160 --> 02:50:49,300
Douche: don't keep them in
office.

2952
02:50:49,420 --> 02:50:52,360
Adam Curry: They don't play
this. No one watches television.

2953
02:50:52,420 --> 02:50:58,600
I don't know. They don't listen
to no agenda. So this happened

2954
02:50:58,600 --> 02:51:00,280
in Sweden.

2955
02:51:00,400 --> 02:51:05,640
I think it was Sweden. The
suicide pod went into effect for

2956
02:51:05,640 --> 02:51:09,000
the first time. And turns out it
was Switzerland. Was it

2957
02:51:09,000 --> 02:51:12,420
Switzerland? Yeah, turns out it
wasn't legal. They thought that

2958
02:51:12,420 --> 02:51:15,240
this was a legal thing. And I
have two clips about this.

2959
02:51:16,680 --> 02:51:19,620
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry I said
somebody used it. Yes,

2960
02:51:19,800 --> 02:51:21,680
Unknown: a criminal
investigation is underway

2961
02:51:21,680 --> 02:51:24,920
tonight after the first known
death of an American woman in a

2962
02:51:24,920 --> 02:51:28,220
so called Suicide pod in
Switzerland. The woman is

2963
02:51:28,220 --> 02:51:31,400
described as a 64 year old from
the Midwest who had an

2964
02:51:31,400 --> 02:51:34,820
autoimmune condition. Police say
she died in a forest near the

2965
02:51:34,820 --> 02:51:38,540
German border with a capsule
called the sarcopod was placed

2966
02:51:38,540 --> 02:51:41,860
sarcopod first time it's ever
been used, and it allows a

2967
02:51:41,860 --> 02:51:45,520
person to release nitrogen gas
into the chamber at the touch of

2968
02:51:45,520 --> 02:51:49,180
a button that removes all the
oxygen, and it causes the person

2969
02:51:49,180 --> 02:51:52,960
to fall asleep and then
suffocate. Assisted dying is

2970
02:51:52,960 --> 02:51:56,680
legal in Switzerland, but only
without external assistance.

2971
02:51:56,740 --> 02:51:59,920
Multiple arrests have been made
in this case for incitement and

2972
02:51:59,920 --> 02:52:03,540
the aiding and abetting of
suicide. The inventor of the

2973
02:52:03,540 --> 02:52:07,080
capsule is Australian physician
Philip nitsky, a known advocate

2974
02:52:07,080 --> 02:52:08,460
of the right to die movement.

2975
02:52:08,580 --> 02:52:11,160
There are some people who don't
approve of the idea of assisted

2976
02:52:11,160 --> 02:52:14,280
suicide at all. They would never
approve. They're not my beliefs,

2977
02:52:14,280 --> 02:52:16,980
and they're not the beliefs of
many people who decide they want

2978
02:52:16,980 --> 02:52:19,740
to control their debts. David,

2979
02:52:19,740 --> 02:52:23,060
the capsule has now been seized
by police. Anyone found guilty

2980
02:52:23,060 --> 02:52:26,240
of these charges could face up
to five years in prison.

2981
02:52:26,960 --> 02:52:29,600
Adam Curry: No, I that's it's
kind of interesting. First of

2982
02:52:29,600 --> 02:52:35,960
all, it's a 3d printed deal.
Looks a bit like, you know that

2983
02:52:36,140 --> 02:52:38,780
the thing that you put your skis
in on top of your roof,

2984
02:52:39,020 --> 02:52:41,380
John C Dvorak: it kind of also
looks like some sort of a pod

2985
02:52:41,380 --> 02:52:43,840
you find in a science fiction
movie. Yeah. And

2986
02:52:43,840 --> 02:52:46,600
Adam Curry: so I had a whole
other slew of clips, so I'll

2987
02:52:46,600 --> 02:52:50,800
just play this first one. It's
from palke palkis shawarma over

2988
02:52:50,800 --> 02:52:53,440
there. She now she's no longer
with a W, I O N, she's with

2989
02:52:53,440 --> 02:52:56,020
first post. I think this is the
clip that contains the thing

2990
02:52:56,020 --> 02:52:56,740
that I thought, wow,

2991
02:52:56,740 --> 02:53:00,480
Unknown: technology can both
amaze and horrify us. Our next

2992
02:53:00,480 --> 02:53:03,300
story tonight is more about the
latter the horrific part,

2993
02:53:03,540 --> 02:53:08,640
courtesy a new product on the
market, a suicide pod. Pod. It

2994
02:53:08,640 --> 02:53:13,860
is exactly what it sounds like,
a pod meant to assist suicides.

2995
02:53:14,280 --> 02:53:17,640
It is a futuristic looking
contraption. Once a person

2996
02:53:17,640 --> 02:53:21,740
climbs into it, nitrogen gas
will be released, oxygen will be

2997
02:53:21,740 --> 02:53:25,460
eliminated, and within minutes,
the person will die, all at the

2998
02:53:25,460 --> 02:53:26,540
cost of just $20.20

2999
02:53:28,340 --> 02:53:29,180
bucks,

3000
02:53:30,680 --> 02:53:33,800
Adam Curry: 20 bucks. By the
way, I think Apple should make

3001
02:53:33,800 --> 02:53:38,540
these for the California market.
You know, it looks like an Apple

3002
02:53:38,540 --> 02:53:39,620
product. It

3003
02:53:39,620 --> 02:53:40,900
John C Dvorak: does. It has a
nice look.

3004
02:53:41,260 --> 02:53:44,020
Adam Curry: And they called, you
know, they took the podcasting

3005
02:53:44,020 --> 02:53:49,060
thing. So be sarcopod now from
Apple, you can pre order your

3006
02:53:49,060 --> 02:53:54,880
sarcopod. I think it would go
over well in California. Maybe

3007
02:53:54,880 --> 02:53:57,160
you can become a distributor.
Ah,

3008
02:53:57,340 --> 02:53:59,200
Unknown: not interested. Oh,
please.

3009
02:54:01,240 --> 02:54:03,300
Adam Curry: Um, see, did we miss
anything?

3010
02:54:03,780 --> 02:54:05,820
John C Dvorak: But while you're
on the topic of these suicide

3011
02:54:05,820 --> 02:54:10,200
things, there is, there was a
there's a lot of, a lot of buzz

3012
02:54:10,200 --> 02:54:13,320
on Democracy Now, and all the
and even NTD about, I didn't

3013
02:54:13,320 --> 02:54:17,580
make a clip, but all these,
these, uh, executions of various

3014
02:54:17,580 --> 02:54:21,020
people around the country, all
of a sudden, executions, yeah,

3015
02:54:21,020 --> 02:54:24,200
they're executing people that
have been on death row since the

3016
02:54:24,200 --> 02:54:28,160
90s. Oh, wow. They need they
discussed the fact that one of

3017
02:54:28,160 --> 02:54:32,660
the reasons for the delay on all
these executions is the although

3018
02:54:32,660 --> 02:54:36,200
one state does use nitrogen, the
rest of the states use lethal

3019
02:54:36,200 --> 02:54:39,140
injection, and they couldn't get
the chemicals. Chemical

3020
02:54:39,140 --> 02:54:43,660
companies wouldn't get the
sarcopod. How about fentanyl?

3021
02:54:46,420 --> 02:54:48,940
Adam Curry: Go out on a with a
bang, just

3022
02:54:48,940 --> 02:54:51,820
John C Dvorak: go out to the San
Francisco and walk down the

3023
02:54:51,820 --> 02:54:55,180
street and pick up some fentanyl
and then give that to the guy. I

3024
02:54:55,180 --> 02:54:57,700
mean, it's like, what? What's
the lethal injection going to

3025
02:54:57,700 --> 02:54:59,140
do? That fentanyl won't do well,
you

3026
02:54:59,200 --> 02:55:03,360
Adam Curry: know, I. See some of
this conversation and and I saw

3027
02:55:03,360 --> 02:55:05,940
people talking about the
sarcopod in this regard, like,

3028
02:55:05,940 --> 02:55:08,580
why not just use that? Why do
you know? Well, I

3029
02:55:08,580 --> 02:55:10,620
John C Dvorak: suggested that in
the newsletter a couple Oh,

3030
02:55:10,620 --> 02:55:12,300
that's where I saw it. Yeah,
that's where

3031
02:55:12,300 --> 02:55:16,440
Adam Curry: you got it, yeah. So
why not? Why? Why are we still

3032
02:55:16,440 --> 02:55:20,480
using these antiquated ways of
killing people, which, of

3033
02:55:20,480 --> 02:55:22,760
course, if you're going to kill
babies, I think you should also

3034
02:55:22,760 --> 02:55:25,280
be able to kill people in
prison. You just need to put it

3035
02:55:25,280 --> 02:55:25,940
on television.

3036
02:55:27,140 --> 02:55:28,520
John C Dvorak: That's always
been my thing. Well, the

3037
02:55:28,520 --> 02:55:33,440
sarcopods, not very dramatic. I
think the old Sparky, some of

3038
02:55:33,440 --> 02:55:36,680
these electric chairs that on
television would be Sparky,

3039
02:55:36,680 --> 02:55:37,820
something you want to see.

3040
02:55:38,600 --> 02:55:40,480
Adam Curry: Just give us the
rights. That's all we care

3041
02:55:40,480 --> 02:55:46,780
about. Final thing I have is
Cheryl Atkinson sat down with

3042
02:55:46,780 --> 02:55:51,280
Trump for a long interview. You
might have seen some clips

3043
02:55:51,280 --> 02:55:55,960
around I have not Well, the one
I polled is the one thing that

3044
02:55:55,960 --> 02:56:00,660
isn't discussed very much, which
is, I think still, should still

3045
02:56:00,660 --> 02:56:04,140
be an issue with voters, and
that is about the covid vaccines

3046
02:56:04,680 --> 02:56:09,000
and and Trump's view of them.
And Cheryl Atkinson, she went

3047
02:56:09,000 --> 02:56:09,600
there

3048
02:56:09,660 --> 02:56:12,300
Unknown: on covid. You
frequently say at your rallies

3049
02:56:12,300 --> 02:56:14,580
and so on, that you don't feel
like you get enough credit on

3050
02:56:14,580 --> 02:56:19,080
covid. But by nearly every
assessment, the CDC failed

3051
02:56:19,080 --> 02:56:22,460
miserably at job one. And yes,
the covid vaccines were

3052
02:56:22,460 --> 02:56:25,700
developed in record time, but as
we now know, they don't prevent

3053
02:56:25,700 --> 02:56:28,340
infection, illness or
transmission, and they have very

3054
02:56:28,340 --> 02:56:30,320
potentially serious side
effects.

3055
02:56:31,340 --> 02:56:34,220
Do you think that maybe they
were approved too fast? And in

3056
02:56:34,220 --> 02:56:36,260
hindsight, based on what we know
now,

3057
02:56:36,500 --> 02:56:38,120
what would you have done
differently? Well, I

3058
02:56:38,120 --> 02:56:40,540
think they're doing studies on
the vaccines, and we're going to

3059
02:56:40,540 --> 02:56:44,740
find out, and it will come out
one way or the other. But I

3060
02:56:44,740 --> 02:56:47,440
really had a mandate to get
vaccines done, and I got them

3061
02:56:47,440 --> 02:56:52,420
done very quickly. In record
time, the Democrats love it. You

3062
02:56:52,420 --> 02:56:55,420
know, the Democrats love it and
the Republicans don't. It's very

3063
02:56:55,480 --> 02:56:59,620
interesting the vaccines, they
love it. I have a friend of mine

3064
02:56:59,620 --> 02:57:03,420
who said to me, why don't you
talk about the vaccine? What you

3065
02:57:03,420 --> 02:57:07,020
did with the VA he's a Democrat,
but I'm sure he voted for me. He

3066
02:57:07,020 --> 02:57:10,620
said what you did was the most
incredible thing that any

3067
02:57:10,620 --> 02:57:14,820
President has ever done. You've
saved hundreds of millions of

3068
02:57:14,820 --> 02:57:18,660
lives all over the world. And
this was just recently, very

3069
02:57:18,660 --> 02:57:22,280
smart guy. He said, I don't
understand why you don't talk

3070
02:57:22,280 --> 02:57:27,800
about it, and I don't talk about
it. But if you go to Pfizer, if

3071
02:57:27,800 --> 02:57:31,220
you go to some of these
companies, they have they have

3072
02:57:31,400 --> 02:57:34,280
charts, and they have all sorts
of statistics. And I said, Why

3073
02:57:34,280 --> 02:57:38,120
don't you release those
statistics let people know? But

3074
02:57:38,120 --> 02:57:41,200
I don't talk about it. I can say
this. The Democrats would love

3075
02:57:41,200 --> 02:57:45,100
to claim it. The Republicans
don't want to claim it, but it

3076
02:57:45,100 --> 02:57:48,520
will be determined, I'd say over
the next 12 months. I say this

3077
02:57:48,520 --> 02:57:53,200
in terms of overall, I think I
did an amazing job with covid. I

3078
02:57:53,200 --> 02:57:57,520
never got the credit for it.
Remember that more people died

3079
02:57:57,640 --> 02:58:02,580
under Biden Harris than died
under Trump, and they had a much

3080
02:58:02,580 --> 02:58:05,340
easier time, because when it
came in here, nobody knew what

3081
02:58:05,340 --> 02:58:08,820
it was. It came from the Wuhan
Labs, which I always said, but

3082
02:58:08,820 --> 02:58:12,240
nobody really knew what it was,
where it came from, nothing.

3083
02:58:12,240 --> 02:58:13,080
They knew nothing.

3084
02:58:13,560 --> 02:58:16,920
Adam Curry: This is where Trump
really blows it every single

3085
02:58:16,920 --> 02:58:22,700
time with this old, tired story
about his Democrat friend. You

3086
02:58:22,700 --> 02:58:26,420
know, he has, he has the right
parts of the story that he

3087
02:58:26,420 --> 02:58:29,960
should be telling, which is, the
Democrats love it. Republicans

3088
02:58:29,960 --> 02:58:34,100
hate it. That's funny. That's
good. And then he says, hey, you

3089
02:58:34,100 --> 02:58:36,560
know, we'll find out. We're
gonna Why did Pfizer, why don't

3090
02:58:36,560 --> 02:58:39,140
you release the documents? And
then he always has to go into

3091
02:58:39,260 --> 02:58:43,060
but I did a great job. It uses
the mandate word. I had a

3092
02:58:43,060 --> 02:58:44,260
mandate. All

3093
02:58:44,260 --> 02:58:47,800
Unknown: wrong, all wrong. Yeah,
it's,

3094
02:58:47,800 --> 02:58:50,320
Adam Curry: it's unbelievable.
Yeah,

3095
02:58:50,320 --> 02:58:52,300
John C Dvorak: that's his weak.
That's his Achilles heel. He

3096
02:58:52,300 --> 02:58:55,120
can't admit to making a mistake.

3097
02:58:55,240 --> 02:58:58,720
Adam Curry: No, it's so
unfortunate. It's, and it's,

3098
02:58:58,900 --> 02:59:02,280
it's, really, it's, it's, I find
that personally, I was a

3099
02:59:02,280 --> 02:59:10,080
problem, man, you got to be able
to vote Harris all the way. No,

3100
02:59:10,080 --> 02:59:12,960
I'm the guy with, this is the
guy with the boot on his head,

3101
02:59:12,960 --> 02:59:16,860
still running. That's my guy
with, with the free pony. That's

3102
02:59:16,920 --> 02:59:21,440
my guy. So that's my guy. One of
the trolls had a very good

3103
02:59:21,440 --> 02:59:25,640
suggestion. He said we could
save Tupperware if they got into

3104
02:59:25,640 --> 02:59:27,200
the sarcopod business.

3105
02:59:28,040 --> 02:59:30,620
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and then
you just pop the thing that

3106
02:59:30,620 --> 02:59:32,720
pushes down, get a little vacuum
seal, and, boom,

3107
02:59:32,720 --> 02:59:36,260
Adam Curry: you're dead. Good to
go. I'm sorry,

3108
02:59:36,560 --> 02:59:39,320
John C Dvorak: yeah, was gonna
play a clip to play that out.

3109
02:59:40,700 --> 02:59:42,280
Adam Curry: You ruined my vibe,

3110
02:59:42,460 --> 02:59:44,380
John C Dvorak: right? No, you,
you hit the number. You you

3111
02:59:44,380 --> 02:59:47,560
actually did fine, but you did.
You missed my cue well, and that

3112
02:59:47,560 --> 02:59:49,300
was latency. That's latency.
Yeah,

3113
02:59:49,300 --> 02:59:51,280
Adam Curry: I'm back. I'm back
for your queue. We'll pretend it

3114
02:59:51,280 --> 02:59:53,560
never happened. I'll edit it all
out, all of it

3115
02:59:54,040 --> 02:59:57,640
John C Dvorak: you always do,
yes, in fact, people don't have,

3116
02:59:57,640 --> 03:00:00,300
don't have any idea how much
stuff you edit. Oh, it's. So

3117
03:00:00,300 --> 03:00:03,540
Adam Curry: much we spend so
much time micromanaging the

3118
03:00:03,540 --> 03:00:04,140
edits. I

3119
03:00:04,140 --> 03:00:06,840
John C Dvorak: just wanted to
play the transgender lesbian

3120
03:00:06,840 --> 03:00:12,000
dude threatening people as a way
to go into the donation

3121
03:00:12,000 --> 03:00:13,560
segments, a talk clip.

3122
03:00:13,620 --> 03:00:16,920
Unknown: I am a 40 year old
transgender lesbian. I dare you

3123
03:00:16,920 --> 03:00:20,600
to try and stop me from going
into a women's bathroom. This is

3124
03:00:20,600 --> 03:00:24,140
a call to action. You need to
arm up, plain and simple. The

3125
03:00:24,140 --> 03:00:27,680
time to act is now. I do not
fear Christians. I do not fear

3126
03:00:27,680 --> 03:00:30,560
conservatives. I do not fear
evangelicals, and I do not fear

3127
03:00:30,560 --> 03:00:34,160
Republicans. You're gonna know
what fear actually feels like.

3128
03:00:34,280 --> 03:00:36,800
There are lots of people like me
who are not afraid to die.

3129
03:00:37,100 --> 03:00:37,820
You've been warned.

3130
03:00:38,240 --> 03:00:42,940
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness,
this is no way to go out. This

3131
03:00:42,940 --> 03:00:46,060
is a threatening transgender
dude. This is no good

3132
03:00:46,120 --> 03:00:48,160
transgender lesbian, no less.

3133
03:00:48,400 --> 03:00:50,620
John C Dvorak: What is that?
Transgender lesbian? Yeah,

3134
03:00:50,620 --> 03:00:51,700
Adam Curry: you know, he's not
afraid. I

3135
03:00:51,700 --> 03:00:53,020
John C Dvorak: made a mistake.
Yes,

3136
03:00:53,620 --> 03:00:54,220
Unknown: I'm gonna show

3137
03:00:54,220 --> 03:00:57,340
my soul by donating to no
agenda. Imagine all the people

3138
03:00:57,340 --> 03:00:58,420
who could do that. Oh yeah,
that'd

3139
03:00:58,420 --> 03:01:06,600
be fabulous. Bummer. Oh, no.
Agenda. Well,

3140
03:01:06,600 --> 03:01:06,720
on

3141
03:01:06,720 --> 03:01:09,240
Adam Curry: that happy note,
who's he's not afraid to die.

3142
03:01:09,240 --> 03:01:13,860
But all, it's all the timing.
Everybody here are our producers

3143
03:01:13,860 --> 03:01:17,100
who helped us out for this
episode, $50 and above. It's not

3144
03:01:17,100 --> 03:01:19,260
a very long list. John hit it,
no,

3145
03:01:19,260 --> 03:01:22,160
John C Dvorak: it's actually a
pretty small list, uh, luckily,

3146
03:01:22,160 --> 03:01:23,660
the Commodores are saving the
day.

3147
03:01:23,720 --> 03:01:26,300
Adam Curry: The Commodores,
Lionel Richie, Commodores,

3148
03:01:27,800 --> 03:01:30,260
John C Dvorak: Beth Elliott
starts us off, and she's in Cory

3149
03:01:30,320 --> 03:01:36,380
coryton, Tennessee, at 133 69
Douglas Murray comes in from

3150
03:01:36,380 --> 03:01:42,940
Missoula, Montana. 10101, Kevin
McLaughlin, already here he is,

3151
03:01:42,940 --> 03:01:46,720
right at the beginning, 808,
he's the Archduke of Luna, lover

3152
03:01:46,720 --> 03:01:50,920
of American boobs. He must be
Duke by now, or Grand Duke. I

3153
03:01:50,920 --> 03:01:58,060
mean, Jason Marr in Vancouver,
Washington, 808, another boob

3154
03:01:58,060 --> 03:02:03,420
donation. Joe John horibore,
it's actually a Dutch name, and

3155
03:02:03,420 --> 03:02:05,340
you can probably pronounce it
better than me.

3156
03:02:05,700 --> 03:02:08,160
Adam Curry: Hoiber, hey farmer,
hoy, boo.

3157
03:02:08,220 --> 03:02:09,900
John C Dvorak: He's a hay
farmer. He's

3158
03:02:09,900 --> 03:02:11,100
Adam Curry: a hay farmer.
Hoiber, uh,

3159
03:02:12,420 --> 03:02:15,000
John C Dvorak: Bristol,
Tennessee, 7777, sir Rick in

3160
03:02:15,000 --> 03:02:19,560
Arlington, Washington, 6996,
Matthew elwart in Weatherford,

3161
03:02:19,560 --> 03:02:25,760
Texas, 606. Baroness, night in
Edmonds, Washington. 60 uh,

3162
03:02:26,660 --> 03:02:30,980
surprise. Night of astonishment
in UConn, Oklahoma. 5444 Mark

3163
03:02:30,980 --> 03:02:39,560
Hardwick in Alito, Texas. 5333
taken Andreessen in it's got to

3164
03:02:39,560 --> 03:02:43,840
be Hawking hotken Andreessen. In
Portland.

3165
03:02:44,020 --> 03:02:48,220
Adam Curry: He's from Norway.
He's from Norway, yelska die.

3166
03:02:51,040 --> 03:02:56,620
John C Dvorak: Matthew dropco In
Elia, Ohio, 5252 and he's got a

3167
03:02:56,620 --> 03:03:04,380
birthday 20 he's 52 Today.
Today. 10 year anniversary of

3168
03:03:04,380 --> 03:03:06,780
being sober, sober versus 10
year

3169
03:03:06,780 --> 03:03:08,640
Adam Curry: chip
congratulations. Brother

3170
03:03:10,320 --> 03:03:12,960
John C Dvorak: Baron Sir Henry
in Rancho, Palos Verdes,

3171
03:03:13,020 --> 03:03:19,680
California, 5242 Andrew Benz in
Imperial Missouri, 505 Scott

3172
03:03:19,680 --> 03:03:25,640
Nelson and Council Bluffs, 5001
and now we have the $50 donors,

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03:03:26,300 --> 03:03:29,060
just the name and location,
starting with our buddies in

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Redondo Beach, California,
gaucho woodworking. Check them

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out. They're online. Just type
in Gaucho woodworking, yep.

3176
03:03:37,820 --> 03:03:41,200
Alexa Delgado and Aptos
California. Samuel Canaday in

3177
03:03:41,200 --> 03:03:47,200
North Riverside, Illinois. Brett
Denton in Boise. Amy Gelinas, or

3178
03:03:47,200 --> 03:03:51,460
Gelinas in Buri in Washington,
right by the airport. Brian

3179
03:03:53,920 --> 03:04:00,040
Heizer in Lancaster, California.
Matthew Byington in Lynbrook,

3180
03:04:00,040 --> 03:04:06,000
New York. Steven Hutto in St
Petersburg. Leanne Shipley in

3181
03:04:06,000 --> 03:04:09,720
Covington, Washington. Bob
Newell in Penfield,

3182
03:04:09,720 --> 03:04:15,420
Pennsylvania. And last on our
short list, Brett lemons. You

3183
03:04:15,420 --> 03:04:19,500
want lemons make lemonade.
Mitchell, Indiana. All $50

3184
03:04:19,740 --> 03:04:23,360
donors want to thank these
people for making the show 1698

3185
03:04:24,800 --> 03:04:29,120
we're two shows away from show
1700 Oh, a 1698 thanks for

3186
03:04:29,120 --> 03:04:31,700
helping us out, making this show
a reality. And

3187
03:04:31,700 --> 03:04:34,400
Adam Curry: again, we appreciate
everybody who donates any amount

3188
03:04:34,400 --> 03:04:37,160
sustaining donations not
mentioned under 50. Also for

3189
03:04:37,160 --> 03:04:42,460
reasons of anonymity, go to no
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3190
03:04:42,460 --> 03:04:45,640
the show with your time, your
talent and very important as

3191
03:04:45,640 --> 03:04:48,940
always, your treasure. We really
appreciate it. Once again, no

3192
03:04:48,940 --> 03:04:52,120
agenda donations.com. Let's give
people

3193
03:04:54,160 --> 03:04:54,940
Unknown: you've got

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Adam Curry: no agenda
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3195
03:05:06,000 --> 03:05:08,940
And remember, we do have John's
Tip of the Day. Our end of show

3196
03:05:08,940 --> 03:05:12,960
mixes on the way, and Sir Bing
of the BMWs and Bulldogs has

3197
03:05:12,960 --> 03:05:16,200
Happy Birthday to his smokin,
hot wife, Jennifer Roediger, she

3198
03:05:16,200 --> 03:05:21,980
turned 42 on the 24th Matthew
dropco turns 52 today, and it's

3199
03:05:21,980 --> 03:05:24,800
got his 10 year chip
congratulations. Matt Bernier

3200
03:05:24,800 --> 03:05:27,260
wishes his smoking hot wife,
Audrey, a happy one for

3201
03:05:27,260 --> 03:05:31,940
tomorrow. Philip veinstra, his
daughter Ella, turns 19 on the

3202
03:05:32,000 --> 03:05:36,440
26th that is today. And Walker
Campbell wishes his brother a

3203
03:05:36,440 --> 03:05:39,440
happy birthday as do we happy
birthday from everybody here,

3204
03:05:39,440 --> 03:05:41,740
the best podcast in the
universe.

3205
03:05:51,460 --> 03:05:55,540
Ah, we love it when people move
up the peerage ladder. Sir

3206
03:05:55,720 --> 03:05:59,980
pursuit of peace and tranquility
upped his and boy did he really

3207
03:05:59,980 --> 03:06:04,260
did up his peerage. He is now a
sir, pursuit of priest of peace

3208
03:06:04,260 --> 03:06:07,500
and tranquility, Earl of the
land of the red clay and the

3209
03:06:07,500 --> 03:06:11,640
cherry trees and Viscount silver
dude of the silver dolphins

3210
03:06:12,240 --> 03:06:15,780
becomes Earl silver dude of the
silver dolphins. And we thank

3211
03:06:15,780 --> 03:06:19,920
you both for your extra support
of the no agenda show, the best

3212
03:06:19,920 --> 03:06:23,660
podcast in the universe. And
today we do have quite a number

3213
03:06:23,660 --> 03:06:28,040
of Commodores. Whoops, I didn't
mean to do that. I'm sorry. Here

3214
03:06:28,040 --> 03:06:31,220
we go. Commodores. Get ready.
Come on over here. You are about

3215
03:06:31,220 --> 03:06:34,760
to receive your honorary
certificates. Commodores are

3216
03:06:35,360 --> 03:06:37,940
Doug Ellis, Commodore, sir,
pursuit of peace and

3217
03:06:37,940 --> 03:06:41,680
tranquility. Commodore sir.
Lehron, Commodore, John G,

3218
03:06:41,680 --> 03:06:44,740
Commodore, sir silver dude of
the silver dolphins, Commodore

3219
03:06:44,740 --> 03:06:47,800
of Coleman County, Knight of the
Lake Highlands and Duke of the

3220
03:06:47,800 --> 03:06:51,580
Republic of Texas. Commodore Sir
David French, Commodore, Baron

3221
03:06:51,580 --> 03:06:55,480
Markey. Mark Commodore, Eric R,
Commodore, Ron Mills, Commodore,

3222
03:06:55,480 --> 03:06:59,380
Steve McConnell and Commodore,
John Wynn, all of you will be

3223
03:06:59,380 --> 03:07:02,160
receiving your official
certificates in the mail very

3224
03:07:02,160 --> 03:07:06,720
soon. Commodores, welcome to
your Commodore, ship of the no

3225
03:07:06,720 --> 03:07:07,980
agenda show.

3226
03:07:09,060 --> 03:07:10,380
I know I'm missing something. I

3227
03:07:10,380 --> 03:07:13,320
John C Dvorak: just you're
getting there, getting closer,

3228
03:07:13,320 --> 03:07:14,160
getting better. I

3229
03:07:14,160 --> 03:07:16,620
Adam Curry: need a little more
music bed, because these things

3230
03:07:16,620 --> 03:07:23,180
are longer. I work on it. I'm
working on it. Yes,

3231
03:07:26,600 --> 03:07:28,640
John C Dvorak: how about a
bosons whistle?

3232
03:07:29,720 --> 03:07:33,980
Adam Curry: Oh, someone just
sent me a bosons whistle, too. I

3233
03:07:33,980 --> 03:07:38,180
was thinking cannons, actually.
So bosons, whistle and cannons.

3234
03:07:38,180 --> 03:07:41,320
Bosons, whistle and cannons.
Okay, a bosons, whistling

3235
03:07:41,320 --> 03:07:44,380
cannons. I'll work on it. In the
meantime, there is a meetup

3236
03:07:44,380 --> 03:07:47,140
taking place today at North
Georgia. It's a North Georgia

3237
03:07:47,140 --> 03:07:50,440
monthly. Six o'clock at Cherry
steep street brewing in

3238
03:07:50,440 --> 03:07:53,980
Alpharetta, Georgia tomorrow.
Oh, a Friday meetup. Cool the

3239
03:07:53,980 --> 03:07:56,920
Columbia River Basin. Meet up
seven o'clock at Cider House in

3240
03:07:56,920 --> 03:08:01,440
Richland, Washington on
Saturday. Resist the douchebags

3241
03:08:01,440 --> 03:08:06,240
that meet up is at 3:33pm in
Arlington, Virginia, at carpool.

3242
03:08:06,660 --> 03:08:09,780
Okay, is that a carpool? Just
carpooling, or is that place

3243
03:08:09,780 --> 03:08:13,260
called carpool? I don't know.
Also on Saturday, two nights in

3244
03:08:13,260 --> 03:08:17,700
a bottle, four o'clock Nauticus
in Edinburgh, UK. Oh, Edinburgh

3245
03:08:17,700 --> 03:08:21,380
UK, all right. I look forward to
a meet up report. Also on

3246
03:08:21,380 --> 03:08:25,760
Saturday in the Netherlands, the
Tilburg meetup 730 at beer cafe.

3247
03:08:25,760 --> 03:08:29,600
Kadinski, oh, please, Baron Rob,
make sure you send a report. And

3248
03:08:29,600 --> 03:08:31,820
I love hearing the meetup
reports. I don't have any today.

3249
03:08:32,120 --> 03:08:35,720
And on Sunday, our next show day
at McNally's South Don't be a

3250
03:08:35,720 --> 03:08:40,540
douchebag that meet up at 530 in
Tulsa, Oklahoma. Many more

3251
03:08:40,540 --> 03:08:44,740
meetups on the list for you to
attend. As I always tell

3252
03:08:44,740 --> 03:08:49,000
everybody, it's really is a big
part of the no agenda show is

3253
03:08:49,000 --> 03:08:51,820
getting to know no agenda
nation. There will be people

3254
03:08:51,820 --> 03:08:55,180
from different ages, creeds,
backgrounds, religions, races,

3255
03:08:55,360 --> 03:08:58,720
and you will all they're
racists, and you will all have a

3256
03:08:58,720 --> 03:09:01,740
good time. There's never been a
fight at a no agenda meetup. It

3257
03:09:01,740 --> 03:09:05,340
always turns out to be a good
time. It's always a party. And

3258
03:09:05,340 --> 03:09:08,220
if you'd like to learn more and
find one near you, go to no

3259
03:09:08,220 --> 03:09:11,820
agenda meetups.com. If you can't
find one, start one yourself.

3260
03:09:11,820 --> 03:09:12,600
Sometimes

3261
03:09:12,600 --> 03:09:21,660
Unknown: you wanna go hang out
with all the nights and days.

3262
03:09:21,660 --> 03:09:21,980
Everybody

3263
03:09:26,780 --> 03:09:28,040
feels the same. It's like a

3264
03:09:31,220 --> 03:09:34,640
Adam Curry: party. Ah, big, big
party. And this party's not over

3265
03:09:34,640 --> 03:09:37,460
yet. We still have John's Tip of
the Day, which you can find at

3266
03:09:37,460 --> 03:09:40,600
Tip of the day.net, or no,
agendafund.com, the lists are

3267
03:09:40,600 --> 03:09:44,920
all there and complete, and it
will be a great Best of Show one

3268
03:09:44,920 --> 03:09:47,800
day we just have all of John's
tips of the day back to back.

3269
03:09:47,800 --> 03:09:49,180
It's going to be dynamite. But

3270
03:09:49,180 --> 03:09:50,560
Unknown: first challenge,

3271
03:09:51,580 --> 03:09:53,860
Adam Curry: but first we have
our ISOs. Would you like to

3272
03:09:53,860 --> 03:09:56,680
select now before the end of the
show, I have two, you have

3273
03:09:56,680 --> 03:09:59,560
three. Would you like me to go
first? Yes, please. No,

3274
03:09:59,560 --> 03:10:05,460
Unknown: just for. Fucked, but,
like, whatever. Okay, and I

3275
03:10:05,460 --> 03:10:06,000
have,

3276
03:10:06,060 --> 03:10:07,800
I feel violated right now,

3277
03:10:09,780 --> 03:10:12,300
little blurry, little blurry.
Yeah, what

3278
03:10:12,300 --> 03:10:16,560
John C Dvorak: do you got? Okay,
I have three uh, including uh,

3279
03:10:16,620 --> 03:10:19,200
let's just do them in order to
start with Harris.

3280
03:10:19,320 --> 03:10:22,340
Unknown: I grew up a middle
class kit, muddy,

3281
03:10:23,180 --> 03:10:25,460
very muddy, none.

3282
03:10:25,580 --> 03:10:26,540
None of us like them.

3283
03:10:28,340 --> 03:10:31,040
Adam Curry: I hate the cutoff,
but okay, yeah, yeah,

3284
03:10:31,280 --> 03:10:35,960
John C Dvorak: it was, I had to,
yeah, okay, it's my fault. RR,

3285
03:10:36,080 --> 03:10:39,380
Adam Curry: not a way to run a
railroad. God, I don't like

3286
03:10:39,380 --> 03:10:41,320
anything today. Yeah,

3287
03:10:42,400 --> 03:10:45,520
Unknown: um, none of us like
them. That's,

3288
03:10:45,580 --> 03:10:49,000
Adam Curry: I think that's kind
of the best one. None of us like

3289
03:10:49,000 --> 03:10:53,200
them. None of us like any of the
of the ISO. So there it is. I'm

3290
03:10:53,200 --> 03:10:54,700
John C Dvorak: self selecting.
There you go. And

3291
03:10:54,700 --> 03:10:56,500
Adam Curry: now it's time, the
moment. You've all been waiting

3292
03:10:56,500 --> 03:10:58,300
for John's Tip of the Day. Just

3293
03:11:00,000 --> 03:11:00,840
Unknown: advice for you and me,

3294
03:11:05,940 --> 03:11:10,080
John C Dvorak: just JC and
sometimes promote some, promote

3295
03:11:10,080 --> 03:11:12,540
some software that I've liked,
I've used over the years, I

3296
03:11:12,540 --> 03:11:18,600
think is works. It's small, it's
effective, and it's it's for old

3297
03:11:18,600 --> 03:11:23,540
media, and it's called Image
burn, and it's for making DVDs

3298
03:11:23,540 --> 03:11:25,640
and CDs and whatever disk you

3299
03:11:25,640 --> 03:11:28,880
Adam Curry: still uses DVDs.
Yes, I knew this would be what

3300
03:11:28,880 --> 03:11:33,920
you'd say. Well, there it is.
Who still uses DVDs? Well,

3301
03:11:33,980 --> 03:11:35,720
John C Dvorak: they're still
selling them by the million, so

3302
03:11:35,720 --> 03:11:39,140
somebody must be using them just
but if you use when you want to

3303
03:11:39,140 --> 03:11:41,140
burn one, you want to do
something with it. What are you

3304
03:11:41,140 --> 03:11:44,200
going to use? You don't have,
you probably don't have any CD

3305
03:11:44,200 --> 03:11:46,480
burning software on your machine
at all. I

3306
03:11:46,480 --> 03:11:49,180
Adam Curry: do. I use a truck
driver. What's it called?

3307
03:11:49,780 --> 03:11:54,460
John C Dvorak: I am g, b u r
n.com, I am g, b r n.com, is

3308
03:11:54,460 --> 03:11:58,480
one. It's simple. What does the
trick? It does ISO. CDs does

3309
03:11:58,480 --> 03:12:02,220
everything. Now, what comes up
in the conversation is that,

3310
03:12:02,220 --> 03:12:03,960
well, I got a little

3311
03:12:03,960 --> 03:12:07,440
Adam Curry: speed, break speed,
break speed, break speed, break

3312
03:12:07,560 --> 03:12:08,520
speed, break

3313
03:12:09,660 --> 03:12:16,080
John C Dvorak: you can go to,
that's my sound. The go. You can

3314
03:12:16,080 --> 03:12:20,960
go to Amazon and buy at burner,
a cheap burner, the 29 bucks.

3315
03:12:21,800 --> 03:12:27,080
They're USB drives, and they
just burn CDs, DVDs or blu rays

3316
03:12:27,080 --> 03:12:31,100
even. So you can always put them
on you can archive some stuff.

3317
03:12:32,360 --> 03:12:35,000
That's my tip of the day for
people, especially for the

3318
03:12:35,000 --> 03:12:35,540
haters.

3319
03:12:36,080 --> 03:12:37,460
Adam Curry: All right, haters,
there's your

3320
03:12:37,460 --> 03:12:40,040
Unknown: tip of the day. All
right, everybody. Thank you.

3321
03:12:40,040 --> 03:12:42,820
Coming out tonight. We got one
more for you. It's called the

3322
03:12:43,000 --> 03:12:46,180
tip by Adam curry and John Cena
borax.

3323
03:12:49,540 --> 03:12:52,540
Adam Curry: Oh boy. Your tip of
the day as good as any tip of

3324
03:12:52,540 --> 03:12:56,860
the day. Only. This one's for
boomers who still use DVDs and

3325
03:12:56,980 --> 03:12:57,460
blu ray.

3326
03:12:57,460 --> 03:13:01,920
John C Dvorak: Hey, guess what?
What? I'm a boomer.

3327
03:13:03,480 --> 03:13:06,480
Adam Curry: End of show mix is
coming up by Eric Coburn. We've

3328
03:13:06,480 --> 03:13:10,260
got David kecta Before he goes
on a little hiatus. He's got his

3329
03:13:10,260 --> 03:13:12,540
John C Dvorak: daughter in town,
by the way, this end of show mix

3330
03:13:12,540 --> 03:13:15,240
is one of the best. Oh, well,
good. Well, Secret

3331
03:13:15,240 --> 03:13:18,900
Adam Curry: Agent Paul is a part
of that. And fresh new mix from

3332
03:13:18,900 --> 03:13:21,800
Neil Jones, our clip custodian.
It's all coming up in just

3333
03:13:21,800 --> 03:13:24,740
seconds from now. And if you
stay with us here@trollroom.io

3334
03:13:26,000 --> 03:13:31,280
no agendastream.com, and on your
modern podcast app, Planet rage

3335
03:13:31,280 --> 03:13:35,720
number 145, chucklefucks. The
title that one that's Larry and

3336
03:13:35,720 --> 03:13:39,620
Darren. And it's a good show. It
is a good show. They'll tell you

3337
03:13:39,620 --> 03:13:43,840
all about death and destruction
in Chicago, coming to you from

3338
03:13:43,840 --> 03:13:46,180
the heart of the Texas Hill
Country, right here in

3339
03:13:46,480 --> 03:13:49,420
picturesque Germantown,
Fredericksburg, in the morning,

3340
03:13:49,420 --> 03:13:52,180
everybody. I'm Adam curry, and

3341
03:13:52,180 --> 03:13:54,040
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it's

3342
03:13:54,040 --> 03:13:57,580
supposed to be hot tomorrow,
today, it's cold. I'm John C

3343
03:13:57,580 --> 03:13:58,180
Dvorak. We

3344
03:13:58,180 --> 03:14:01,320
Adam Curry: got 80 degrees here
in Fredericksburg, and we'll be

3345
03:14:01,320 --> 03:14:05,160
back on Sunday. Remember us at
no agenda, donations.com, until

3346
03:14:05,160 --> 03:14:09,540
then, adios mo FOS, a hooey,
hooey and such

3347
03:14:22,860 --> 03:14:26,360
Unknown: a the crook.

3348
03:14:43,180 --> 03:14:46,060
But if I were the president, I
would inform the threatening

3349
03:14:46,360 --> 03:14:50,740
country, in this case, Iran,
that if you do anything to harm

3350
03:14:50,740 --> 03:14:55,120
this person, we are going to
blow your largest cities and the

3351
03:14:55,120 --> 03:14:58,420
country itself to smithereens.
We're going to blow into

3352
03:14:58,420 --> 03:14:59,920
smithereens you can't do.

3353
03:15:05,640 --> 03:15:08,280
President Vladimir Putin has
warned the West that Russia

3354
03:15:08,280 --> 03:15:11,340
could use nuclear weapons if it
was struck with conventional

3355
03:15:11,340 --> 03:15:14,640
missiles. Russian leader
presented changes to Russia's

3356
03:15:14,640 --> 03:15:18,000
nuclear doctrine at a meeting,
at a meeting of the country's

3357
03:15:18,000 --> 03:15:21,380
security council, Putin said a
nuclear power supporting an

3358
03:15:21,380 --> 03:15:24,800
attack on Russia would now be
considered a joint aggressor.

3359
03:15:25,580 --> 03:15:29,000
The change in doctrine comes
after Putin's warnings to the US

3360
03:15:29,000 --> 03:15:31,760
and other NATO allies that
allowing Ukraine to use Western

3361
03:15:31,760 --> 03:15:34,940
long range weapons to hit
Russian territory would mean

3362
03:15:34,940 --> 03:15:38,720
that Russia and NATO are at war.
Good news is good.

3363
03:15:40,520 --> 03:15:41,440
War has failed.

3364
03:15:44,440 --> 03:15:50,200
He set out to destroy Ukraine,
but Ukraine is still free. Set

3365
03:15:50,200 --> 03:15:53,980
out to weaken NATO, but NATO is
bigger, stronger, more united

3366
03:15:53,980 --> 03:15:55,000
than ever before. They

3367
03:15:56,860 --> 03:16:00,120
have built blue a new donor
where there's fake news. Why

3368
03:16:00,120 --> 03:16:06,960
don't you get your Gitmo fix?
Putin on the Reds dressed up

3369
03:16:06,960 --> 03:16:13,320
like a million dollar Trooper,
trying not to look like Anderson

3370
03:16:13,320 --> 03:16:18,900
Cooper Come let's mix where John
Podesta walks with kids, though

3371
03:16:18,900 --> 03:16:23,360
I mean pizzas in his mitts.
Putin on the Ritz.

3372
03:16:27,740 --> 03:16:31,100
Folks, we've got to move past
this toxic politics. All

3373
03:16:31,100 --> 03:16:34,520
indications are this bill won't
even move forward to the Senate

3374
03:16:34,520 --> 03:16:41,600
floor. Why? A simple reason,
Donald Trump. Donald Trump, one,

3375
03:16:41,740 --> 03:16:41,920
one

3376
03:16:43,660 --> 03:16:44,620
Donald Trump, because

3377
03:16:46,420 --> 03:16:48,400
Donald Trump thinks it's bad for
him

3378
03:16:48,460 --> 03:16:50,260
politically. Warren,

3379
03:16:52,180 --> 03:16:54,940
Donald Trump, he'd rather
weaponize this issue than

3380
03:16:54,940 --> 03:16:58,780
actually solve Trump and the
Maga Republicans said no Warren,

3381
03:16:59,860 --> 03:17:02,580
because they're afraid of Donald
Trump, Donald Trump, Donald

3382
03:17:04,380 --> 03:17:10,740
Trump, afraid of Donald Trump.
Folks, we've got to move past

3383
03:17:10,740 --> 03:17:13,740
this toxic politics. The
republics. Have to decide. Who

3384
03:17:13,740 --> 03:17:19,080
do they serve, Donald Trump and
the American people. One on

3385
03:17:21,000 --> 03:17:25,640
Donald Trump. Every day between
now and November, the American

3386
03:17:25,640 --> 03:17:28,820
people are going to know that
the only reason the border is

3387
03:17:28,820 --> 03:17:39,080
not secure. Why Donald Trump?
Why Donald Trump? Why

3388
03:18:01,600 --> 03:18:02,800
boy, Donald Trump, borac.org/n,

3389
03:18:05,220 --> 03:18:08,460
a, none of us like them. I.