1 00:00:00,060 --> 00:00:04,500 Unknown: US. Adam curry. John C Dvorak, it's 2 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:07,860 Adam Curry: Sunday, September 22 2024 this year, award winning. 3 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:10,440 Kimberly nation media assassination, Episode 1697, 4 00:00:11,159 --> 00:00:12,839 Unknown: this is no agenda, 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,120 Adam Curry: unabashedly analog and broadcasting live from the 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,320 heart of the Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region number six 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,840 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,720 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,100 sick of hearing about deodorant for pits and privates. I'm John 10 00:00:31,100 --> 00:00:31,880 C Dvorak, 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,060 Unknown: buzzkill in the morning. 12 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:38,359 Adam Curry: Are you watching broadcast television again? 13 00:00:39,260 --> 00:00:42,940 John C Dvorak: Yes, of course. I always monitor it. Oh, man, 14 00:00:43,060 --> 00:00:45,700 there's a bunch of disgusting commercials. There's at least 15 00:00:45,700 --> 00:00:49,660 three different ones where you have some gruesome people, yes, 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,320 including some big fat woman. Oh, and they're putting this 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,980 stuff all over their bodies, and they're in their thighs and 18 00:00:56,980 --> 00:01:01,260 talking about pits and privates. It's all body deodorants. When 19 00:01:01,260 --> 00:01:05,100 did this have become a trend? How many do these modern women 20 00:01:05,100 --> 00:01:06,660 stink to high heaven? 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,160 Adam Curry: When's the last time you sniff the lady? Uh huh, see, 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,360 I got you there. Not 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,020 John C Dvorak: Joe Biden. 24 00:01:15,180 --> 00:01:19,200 Adam Curry: Oh yes. Well, I don't know what's going on with 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,400 that, but we're just off the rails. Everybody's off the 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:28,640 rails. This amazing. What? Everyone's off the rails, the 27 00:01:29,060 --> 00:01:32,540 rails, the guardrails, the rails. Everyone's like, ah, oh 28 00:01:32,540 --> 00:01:38,840 no. The the culture war economy is in full cycle. Oh, Kamala, 29 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:47,680 oh, Oprah, oh, Hollywood. Oprah, did you see that thing? Man, 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,040 John C Dvorak: I saw enough of it. I couldn't watch the whole 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,800 thing. It was interesting because it was, it was to say. 32 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,780 It was just her speech turned into like a yes, yes, absolutely 33 00:01:58,780 --> 00:02:02,100 nothing as usual, yes. She talked about being a middle 34 00:02:02,100 --> 00:02:06,720 class kid and all the whole thing. I have only one clip from 35 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,300 it, which is the one that was they passed around the most. 36 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:09,840 Well, wait 37 00:02:09,839 --> 00:02:12,599 Adam Curry: before we do that, let me just, let me just play 38 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:14,399 this 29 seconds of Oprah. 39 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,180 Unknown: Thanks for joining us for this very special event, 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,200 unite for 41 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,300 America. Oh, look for 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:31,760 America. Republicans for Harris. Love that group even more. Chris 43 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,720 Rock is in the house. 44 00:02:39,980 --> 00:02:42,220 Please welcome Kamala Harris. 45 00:02:44,260 --> 00:02:45,640 Adam Curry: Kamala Harris, she 46 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:49,420 John C Dvorak: can like a parody of herself. Yes, I 47 00:02:49,420 --> 00:02:54,640 Adam Curry: love that. She says Kamala Harris. She was so sick, 48 00:02:54,700 --> 00:02:58,240 by the way, this racist. She was so sick because, you know, when 49 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:05,040 you say, That's why people say Kamala Harris. Because so she's 50 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,740 like, I gotta say Carmela, better not say it wrong. Kamala 51 00:03:07,740 --> 00:03:15,900 Harris, hello, 1982 Oprah. I mean, does that still work? Do 52 00:03:15,900 --> 00:03:19,560 people still get all jacked up about that in the house? Hello. 53 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,260 1991 our CEO 54 00:03:21,260 --> 00:03:22,580 Unknown: Hall shows in 55 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:28,640 Adam Curry: the house. Hey, I'm Adam curry, into his house. 56 00:03:30,380 --> 00:03:32,420 John C Dvorak: Please push your heart arms under. You're pushing 57 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:35,180 that roof off. Yeah, yeah, you pump your that's all that was 58 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:35,660 missing. 59 00:03:35,780 --> 00:03:41,200 Adam Curry: Pump your fist. Oh, man, it was embarrassing. The 60 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:49,120 whole thing, the whole thing, let me just the celebretties. I 61 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,680 mean, if any, if at any point, there was a career killer for 62 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,120 anyone in Hollywood, it was showing up on this show. I 63 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,960 John C Dvorak: agree. I have lost all respect for those 64 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:01,860 people. Let's 65 00:04:01,860 --> 00:04:04,260 Adam Curry: see who we have. Come on. Let's introduce him. 66 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,400 Oh, bro, I 67 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,360 Unknown: see some faces I recognize. Why can't 68 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,280 Adam Curry: she talk right? This is crazy. This is not modern. It 69 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,740 wasn't television. It was streaming. Only there's 70 00:04:16,740 --> 00:04:20,720 Unknown: Brian Cranston, Hey, Brian, that's 71 00:04:20,719 --> 00:04:22,999 Adam Curry: it. No more. Breaking Bad for me. Hello, 72 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,480 Unknown: hello, hello. Chris Rock is in the house. Chris, 73 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,500 what are you? Chris Rock, 74 00:04:35,060 --> 00:04:36,380 Adam Curry: he's black. So we sat in the 75 00:04:41,420 --> 00:04:45,220 Unknown: house. Pin Stiller. Jennifer Lopez, Tracy Ellis 76 00:04:45,220 --> 00:04:46,000 Ross, 77 00:04:46,180 --> 00:04:48,700 Jennifer Lopez, 78 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,600 Tracy Ellis Ross, 79 00:04:59,560 --> 00:04:59,920 where are you? 80 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,160 Julia Roberts, what 81 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,840 an overbite. It's unbelievable 82 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,220 Adam Curry: that overbite and 83 00:05:16,980 --> 00:05:19,020 Unknown: this narrow street is in the house and Diddy in the 84 00:05:19,020 --> 00:05:19,200 house. 85 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:25,340 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. And Diddy in the house. I'm sorry, Diddy 86 00:05:25,340 --> 00:05:30,860 not it, man. It was just like, Are people still falling for 87 00:05:30,860 --> 00:05:31,400 this? 88 00:05:33,980 --> 00:05:37,160 John C Dvorak: I mean, you made your point. Yes, they are. Well, 89 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,240 maybe not, I don't think 90 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,980 Adam Curry: so. You know what? You know who's falling for it? 91 00:05:40,220 --> 00:05:45,760 It's people who it's people who are online. Oh, man, oh, yeah, 92 00:05:45,820 --> 00:05:49,180 look what they're doing. Man, it's all lies. Man, that people 93 00:05:49,180 --> 00:05:54,520 are the people who disagree with Kamala Harris. They're like, Oh, 94 00:05:55,660 --> 00:06:00,180 it's not real. People, none of this is real. It's a show. It's 95 00:06:00,180 --> 00:06:06,960 a show and it's a dumb show. None of these. It's so phony, so 96 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,740 fake, so obvious. All right, you want to play your clip. 97 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:12,840 John C Dvorak: I only have the one. No, oh, 98 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:13,560 Adam Curry: what you got? 99 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,560 John C Dvorak: It's the, it's the, it's the universal answer 100 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,180 she gives to everything 101 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:23,540 Unknown: we take pride in the privilege of being American, and 102 00:06:23,540 --> 00:06:29,300 this is a moment where we can and must come together as 103 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:32,960 Americans, understanding we have so much more in common than what 104 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:38,840 separates us, let's come together. Come together the 105 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:42,040 character that we are so proud of about who we are, which is we 106 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,940 are an optimistic people. Wait. Wait. What we are an optimistic 107 00:06:45,940 --> 00:06:51,520 people? We are Americans by character. Are people who have 108 00:06:52,060 --> 00:06:57,520 dreams and ambitions and aspirations. We believe in what 109 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,980 is possible, but the rent is too high. Kamala, we believe in what 110 00:07:01,980 --> 00:07:04,260 can be, and we 111 00:07:05,580 --> 00:07:09,420 John C Dvorak: left out their best part, what unburdened by 112 00:07:09,420 --> 00:07:09,960 what 113 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,100 Adam Curry: has been. Yes, that's a flub. She flubbed her 114 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:14,700 line. That's 115 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:18,660 Unknown: how that's how we came into being, because the people 116 00:07:18,660 --> 00:07:24,800 before us understood that one of the greatest expressions for the 117 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,380 love of our country, one of the greatest expressions of 118 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:32,780 patriotism, is to fight for the ideals of who we are, which 119 00:07:32,780 --> 00:07:36,260 includes freedom to make decisions about your own body, 120 00:07:36,260 --> 00:07:41,080 freedom to be safe from gun violence, Freedom to have access 121 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,700 to the ballot box, Freedom be who you are and just be, to love 122 00:07:45,700 --> 00:07:50,620 who you love openly and with pride, freedom to just 123 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:58,540 Adam Curry: be. America will never, never elect her 124 00:07:58,540 --> 00:08:00,660 president, ever. 125 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,280 John C Dvorak: No, but they could rig it. 126 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,460 Adam Curry: No. They're not even going to be able to rig it. No, 127 00:08:05,820 --> 00:08:07,800 no, so no. So 128 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,420 John C Dvorak: there was an interest. I didn't get this 129 00:08:09,420 --> 00:08:13,020 clip, but there was a they had on. I think it was one of the 130 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,700 Acosta or Costa, whatever his name is on. CNN had his her 131 00:08:17,700 --> 00:08:20,660 assistant on because she talked about having a gun and shooting 132 00:08:20,660 --> 00:08:24,740 some guy in her house, yeah. And they brought the assistant on 133 00:08:24,980 --> 00:08:28,640 because she did say, Kendall. I said, Well, my, my staff will 134 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,000 take care of whatever. I said later, yeah. And she comes on 135 00:08:32,540 --> 00:08:37,220 his show and says she didn't have a gun. What? 136 00:08:38,300 --> 00:08:40,540 Adam Curry: You didn't get that clip? No, 137 00:08:40,540 --> 00:08:42,940 John C Dvorak: it came in late. It was like on it was on some 138 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,960 but I can get it if you really wanted to hear it. No, I can 139 00:08:47,020 --> 00:08:51,520 assure you. Assistant said the camera has no gun, which I 140 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,600 believe camis 141 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,140 Adam Curry: got no gun. Yeah, I can already see in the troll 142 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:56,740 room. Adam 143 00:08:56,740 --> 00:08:58,960 Unknown: has more faith in the American people than I do right 144 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,540 now. Get 145 00:09:00,540 --> 00:09:05,160 Adam Curry: off of the internet. Bro, get off of the internet. 146 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,800 Troll guy. It's a troll guy. Which 147 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,140 John C Dvorak: one was his name? Get a name. Names. 148 00:09:11,580 --> 00:09:13,620 Adam Curry: He's already scrolled by. Guess 149 00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:14,280 John C Dvorak: what? 5662, 150 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:21,620 Adam Curry: no, it's a troll. It's troll 72945, this was my 151 00:09:21,620 --> 00:09:27,620 favorite piece, because here you have 1980s 1990s celebrities, 152 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,340 you know, bring in some reality. People bring in. Bring in 153 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,080 someone from, uh, survivor or a bat. What is it the? What's the 154 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,100 I love Island. That's who people today want to see. Bring in some 155 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:44,080 love. Island celebrities now. Now we got Meryl Streep, and 156 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,340 this was hilarious. 157 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,960 Unknown: I wanted to ask you, 158 00:09:48,340 --> 00:09:50,260 I can't believe I had this opportunity. 159 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,220 Adam Curry: I can't believe I'm talking to Kamala Harris. I 160 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,380 probably never will again. Never again. That's correct. That's 161 00:09:59,380 --> 00:10:02,100 probably true. Totally true. You nailed it. Meryl Streep, 162 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,920 Unknown: I probably never will again. I have a little Debbie 163 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:08,580 Downer 164 00:10:08,580 --> 00:10:13,320 moment, because actually, I think you're going to win. I'm 165 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,220 sure you're going to 166 00:10:17,580 --> 00:10:21,380 win. What happens when you win. Oh, 167 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,080 I'm worried about it. And I wonder, worried about I wonder 168 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,760 if we're ready for 169 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,760 January, 7, ninth. 170 00:10:30,140 --> 00:10:31,160 What happens? 171 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:32,360 What happens? 172 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:38,360 So we will be ready, but just taking a step back and thank 173 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,620 you, Marilyn, for your just the gift, Marilyn, 174 00:10:42,700 --> 00:10:46,120 Adam Curry: thank you, Marilyn. Marilyn, yes, that's why I 175 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,140 played the clip. Thank you, Marilyn, for your answer. Hello, 176 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,080 that's how out of touch are you? 177 00:10:54,340 --> 00:10:55,780 Unknown: Thank you, Marilyn, wow. I 178 00:10:55,780 --> 00:10:58,840 John C Dvorak: did. I missed that. Yeah, yeah, she said, 179 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,340 Marilyn, to Meryl Streep, what happens? 180 00:11:02,940 --> 00:11:08,040 Unknown: So we will be ready, but just taking a step back and 181 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,220 thank you, Marilyn, for your just the gift that you give. And 182 00:11:11,220 --> 00:11:15,480 Adam Curry: Streep is just looking like, what did I sign up 183 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:22,340 for? What did I do? What did I do? Well, the only question that 184 00:11:22,340 --> 00:11:27,800 mattered was this one, and she gave the same wrong answer. We 185 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,140 Unknown: really would love to know what your plan is to help 186 00:11:30,140 --> 00:11:31,940 lower the cost of living. 187 00:11:32,780 --> 00:11:36,500 Yeah. First of all, thank you both for being here. Thank you, 188 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:41,740 Meryl and yours is a story I hear around the country as I 189 00:11:41,740 --> 00:11:43,000 travel, and 190 00:11:44,020 --> 00:11:46,300 John C Dvorak: hey, stop. It's not a story, lady, it's a 191 00:11:46,300 --> 00:11:49,840 question, and not a story. 192 00:11:49,900 --> 00:11:52,660 Adam Curry: It's not a story. It's a question, a 193 00:11:52,660 --> 00:11:57,340 Unknown: story I hear around the country as I travel, and in 194 00:11:57,340 --> 00:12:04,140 terms of both rightly having the right to have aspirations and 195 00:12:04,140 --> 00:12:04,680 dreams. 196 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,300 Adam Curry: I'm peeing my pants. This is so good. 197 00:12:09,660 --> 00:12:12,060 John C Dvorak: This is, yeah, this is the other clip I would 198 00:12:12,060 --> 00:12:13,560 have got. It's 199 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:15,540 Adam Curry: the best. Rightly 200 00:12:15,660 --> 00:12:19,860 Unknown: having the right to have aspirations and dreams. I 201 00:12:19,860 --> 00:12:22,640 Adam Curry: rightly am having the right to have aspirations 202 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,400 and dreams. Bam, nailed it, and 203 00:12:25,460 --> 00:12:30,740 Unknown: ambitions for your family, and working hard and 204 00:12:30,740 --> 00:12:35,360 finding that the American dream is for this generation and so 205 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,180 many recently far more elusive than it's been, and we need to 206 00:12:40,180 --> 00:12:44,380 deal with that number of ways. One is bringing down the cost of 207 00:12:44,380 --> 00:12:46,900 everyday necessities, including groceries. That's 208 00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:49,240 Adam Curry: right, I'm gonna bring down the cost. I'm gonna 209 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,960 wave my wand and poo gonna make it so I'm your fairy godmother. 210 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,780 Please. Let's just listen to how the media played this. Let's go 211 00:12:58,780 --> 00:13:02,880 overseas for a moment, to France. France 24 please 212 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,500 Unknown: welcome Kamala Harris. 213 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,900 It wasn't technically a campaign rally, but it may as well have 214 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:14,400 been. Kamala Harris was welcomed with open arms by superstar host 215 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,460 Oprah Winfrey, in front of hundreds of 1000s of live 216 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:21,560 streamers and a studio audience in Michigan, one of the seven 217 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:25,160 crucial battleground states that will decide the election. It 218 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,300 seems to us that something happened to you. 219 00:13:29,660 --> 00:13:33,500 Adam Curry: Why does Oprah talk like this? Something happened to 220 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:33,920 you? 221 00:13:33,980 --> 00:13:36,140 John C Dvorak: She's now from Africa. 222 00:13:36,260 --> 00:13:38,900 Adam Curry: The ozempic has affected her speech 223 00:13:39,020 --> 00:13:41,680 Unknown: battleground states that will decide the election. 224 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:42,160 It 225 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,240 seems to us that something happened to you. 226 00:13:46,300 --> 00:13:50,500 Adam Curry: Where's Oprah? Isn't Oprah from Louisiana. 227 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:51,580 John C Dvorak: She's from Ghana. 228 00:13:53,020 --> 00:13:57,460 Unknown: The moment President Biden stepped aside and withdrew 229 00:13:57,460 --> 00:14:03,840 his candidacy, that kind of said a veil or something drops 230 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:06,840 John C Dvorak: panties? 231 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:08,940 Unknown: What happened to 232 00:14:19,260 --> 00:14:23,240 you? You know, we each have those moments in our lives where 233 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,680 it's time to step up. 234 00:14:27,020 --> 00:14:30,920 Jonathan Lopez, Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts to Chris Rock and 235 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,040 Ben Stiller. The unite for America event was marked by 236 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,280 celebrities who beamed in remotely to endorse Harris, 237 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:37,760 beamed in. 238 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,900 Adam Curry: Did she say? Beamed in? They beam in. They beamed in 239 00:14:40,900 --> 00:14:41,800 remotely unite 240 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,980 Unknown: for America. Event was marked by celebrities beamed in 241 00:14:44,980 --> 00:14:49,900 remote meeting, Doris Harris and this pitch to gun owners from 242 00:14:49,900 --> 00:14:50,020 the 243 00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:53,200 Democratic 244 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,220 candidate. 245 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,800 Adam Curry: How do you think that plays? How do you think 246 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,060 that plays, in general, with with the Kamala Harris audience, 247 00:15:06,060 --> 00:15:09,840 oh, she's badass, man. She gonna shoot me. What? What? I'm 248 00:15:09,900 --> 00:15:10,560 confused. I 249 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,500 John C Dvorak: have no idea, but it's beyond me why she'd even 250 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:15,480 why that was a talking point of hers. 251 00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:18,000 Adam Curry: It wasn't a talking point. It was a complete miss 252 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:23,660 her. It was wrong. You don't say that. It's odd, 253 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:31,340 Unknown: seemingly candid comment from Harris, 254 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,680 nonetheless supports stricter gun laws, including a ban on 255 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,740 assault weapons and more background checks. The glitzy 256 00:15:39,740 --> 00:15:43,180 talk show screened with a presidential race neck and neck. 257 00:15:43,180 --> 00:15:45,220 Six weeks to go to Election Day. Neck 258 00:15:45,220 --> 00:15:48,700 Adam Curry: and neck. They beamed in, yes. Let's listen to 259 00:15:48,700 --> 00:15:49,780 ABC version 260 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,240 Unknown: vice president Kamala Harris touching down in 261 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,020 battleground Michigan, hoping to harness the star power of one of 262 00:15:56,020 --> 00:16:00,160 her most influential supporters, Oprah Winfrey, together, 263 00:16:00,340 --> 00:16:05,040 let's all choose. Kamala Hara, oh, nice to get it right. 264 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,740 Adam Curry: Yeah, hi, this is Oprah. Could you do me a favor 265 00:16:10,740 --> 00:16:13,440 and not put the Horus bit in, but do it where I corrected it 266 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,720 and said it right? And said, you know, could you put that in your 267 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,060 package and take out the Horus? Kamala Harris, 268 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,640 John C Dvorak: I was supposed to be from the same event. It's the 269 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,900 same event, yeah, and they swapped out the the the intro to 270 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,060 the horror sounds like sounds 271 00:16:32,060 --> 00:16:35,780 Adam Curry: like it to me, Interesting, huh? Hosting 272 00:16:35,780 --> 00:16:38,600 Unknown: a virtual rally with Harris, hoping to reach voters 273 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,440 in the critical states that will determine this race. The 274 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,980 campaign touting the nearly 200,000 people are registered 275 00:16:44,980 --> 00:16:48,520 for the online event. Oprah, a self proclaimed independent 276 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,400 speaking directly to the sliver of voters who can make the 277 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,060 difference. 278 00:16:52,180 --> 00:16:56,140 I'm calling on all you independents. That's 279 00:16:56,140 --> 00:16:58,420 Adam Curry: you. John C Dvorak, I hope you were tuned in. 280 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,880 John C Dvorak: Wrong, wrong, unaffiliated, big difference. 281 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:03,720 Oh, 282 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,020 Unknown: you 283 00:17:04,020 --> 00:17:13,620 undecideds. You know this is true. You know I'm telling you 284 00:17:13,620 --> 00:17:19,380 the truth that values and character matter most of all. 285 00:17:19,380 --> 00:17:20,640 No, 286 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:26,060 Adam Curry: no no. People want the rent's too high. Oprah, 287 00:17:26,540 --> 00:17:30,560 that's what people want the rent to come down, and all they hear 288 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,800 from Trump is, drill, I'm gonna lower the cost of energy. That 289 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,740 lowers the cost of anything. Almost everybody understands 290 00:17:36,740 --> 00:17:42,040 that message, and I truly think this was the death knell for the 291 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,420 horrors campaign. But that didn't stop her from going to 292 00:17:46,420 --> 00:17:49,660 the battleground states and code switching again with 293 00:17:49,660 --> 00:17:51,880 Unknown: the presidential election less than two months 294 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,940 away, Vice President Kamala Harris and former President 295 00:17:54,940 --> 00:17:58,900 Donald Trump continue to ramp up their campaigns. This afternoon, 296 00:17:58,900 --> 00:18:01,440 Harris spoke in Atlanta about reproductive rights, while 297 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,360 slamming Republicans and these 298 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:07,260 hypocrites, want to start talking about this is in the 299 00:18:07,260 --> 00:18:09,660 best interest of women and children. Well, 300 00:18:09,660 --> 00:18:10,560 where you been 301 00:18:13,620 --> 00:18:16,320 when it comes to taking care of the women and children 302 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,780 Adam Curry: I'm wearing my bin where you been? No, no. It's a 303 00:18:26,780 --> 00:18:31,400 mistake. It's a mistake. I don't think America would have been 304 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:36,560 ready for her regardless. But America is a we want a daddy. We 305 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,560 don't want a mommy. That's what we want. Mommy. No, well, she's 306 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:47,140 trying to be, she's trying to be mamala, mama, mama. So, no, I'm 307 00:18:47,140 --> 00:18:50,800 not too worried. Not too well, yeah, well, it's got no, no, no, 308 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,720 it's gotten even better. No, it's 309 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,840 John C Dvorak: still doable. But, you know, they're trying to 310 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,380 do this has been brought up in the number of on the right wing. 311 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,320 They're trying to flip New York, because it makes all these 312 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,420 swings stay irrelevant, really, because who cares about this and 313 00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:11,520 that, if you get New York, yeah, 314 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,460 Adam Curry: this is the biggest show on earth, and it's playing 315 00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:19,740 out as such, and it's just amazing, enjoyable. Oh, it's us, 316 00:19:19,740 --> 00:19:25,160 because we step back and we go, What a dumb show. Yes, turn on, 317 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,000 love Island. Come on. Let's get something good, but at least 318 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,120 we're not Diddy, hate to say it, but we called it now to 319 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:35,420 Unknown: the latest in the arrest of rap mogul Sean Diddy 320 00:19:35,420 --> 00:19:38,840 Combs was being held without bail in Brooklyn's metropolitan 321 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,520 Detention Center while he awaits trial, according to NBC News's 322 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,680 Chloe melody has been placed under a suicide watch now in 323 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,860 studio with more details. Chloe walk us through your latest 324 00:19:50,860 --> 00:19:51,640 reporting. What 325 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:52,540 we know right now? We 326 00:19:52,540 --> 00:19:56,440 know from a source close to the situation that, yes, he is under 327 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,440 suicide watch, Allison, but this is a precautionary measure, 328 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,540 because he. Is a high profile inmate, but just moments ago, we 329 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,800 just received a statement from combs team, and they say that he 330 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,280 is strong, healthy, and he's focused on his defense. He is 331 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,160 committed to fighting this case, and has full confidence in both 332 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,240 his legal team and the truth. And look, he could be behind 333 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,200 bars for up to a year. That's how long it could take for this 334 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,760 to finally get to trial. 335 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,540 Adam Curry: He offered to give himself up, but now he's on 336 00:20:26,540 --> 00:20:30,800 suicide watch. Did he still? 337 00:20:30,860 --> 00:20:35,480 John C Dvorak: He probably expected to get bail, but they, 338 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,760 I don't understand what the point of all this is, because 339 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,500 they've grabbed all the blackmail material, yeah? And so 340 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:42,520 they now have it. 341 00:20:42,580 --> 00:20:44,500 Adam Curry: They have one, they have one loose end, 342 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,520 John C Dvorak: yeah? But he doesn't unless he has a one of 343 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,340 those, you know, kill switch, where he can where the black 344 00:20:51,340 --> 00:20:53,860 male material has been online, and now it could be released to 345 00:20:53,860 --> 00:20:59,920 the dark web. We even just talk only one, the dark web, yeah, 346 00:20:59,980 --> 00:21:02,040 the dark or the darkest West, Say 347 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:07,680 Adam Curry: it Ain't So the dark web? Oh no. Anyway, I 348 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,860 John C Dvorak: don't know what I the blackmail material has been 349 00:21:10,860 --> 00:21:15,720 transferred to the blackmailers, so which, by the way, brings up. 350 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:20,840 We don't have the clip of it, but Howard Stern goes off. Do 351 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,200 you think that maybe he was compromised at some point, and 352 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:24,920 he now has to, 353 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,120 Adam Curry: no, he doesn't even want to shake someone's hand. 354 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,920 John C Dvorak: Germapho makes you thinking. But before we get 355 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,720 too far away from the election, I do 356 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,000 Adam Curry: have like, Oh no, I was I had one more dude. Okay, 357 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,160 forget the other Diddy clip. He's being moved to another 358 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,980 prison, which is, which is where it always happens. You see, 359 00:21:44,980 --> 00:21:45,160 well, 360 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,260 John C Dvorak: as long as they have the cameras on, yeah, 361 00:21:47,260 --> 00:21:49,840 Adam Curry: no, the cameras will malfunction. The guards will be 362 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:58,480 asleep. He did not kill himself. It's so obvious. And 15 years at 363 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:58,720 this 364 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,640 John C Dvorak: point, they're not going to be able to pull 365 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,880 this. They're not going to do that. He's not going to get 366 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,260 killed. Okay, 367 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,040 Adam Curry: you can write in the book. All right, you have, you 368 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,980 have the book. I don't have the book. I have to. You have the 369 00:22:10,980 --> 00:22:12,660 book. You have the book. I want 370 00:22:12,660 --> 00:22:15,000 John C Dvorak: to play these two clips about the elect, because 371 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,080 it has to. It's got the kind of subtle propaganda that only NPR 372 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:25,160 and PBS produce. And this was a look back at a movie called the 373 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:25,880 election. 374 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,520 Adam Curry: I don't remember this movie. 375 00:22:28,580 --> 00:22:30,620 John C Dvorak: I don't remember it either, but I guess it was a 376 00:22:30,620 --> 00:22:35,480 big hit. It had Reese Witherspoon playing some young 377 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:41,020 whore, a student who was running for some office or other, and it 378 00:22:41,020 --> 00:22:45,700 was very reflective of Hillary's campaign. I guess this movie 379 00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:46,480 came out in 2015 380 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,040 Adam Curry: 2016 I kind of remember this, yeah, and 381 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,500 John C Dvorak: once, somebody, once, I think, asked her, do you 382 00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:56,440 want to play Hillary Clinton in a bio pictures? No, I already 383 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,780 have referring to this movie, and so I just had two clips from 384 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:04,680 it, and because there is a WTF moment in the second clip, let's 385 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,120 play the intro. I 386 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:08,640 Unknown: know a lot of you are thinking about the presidential 387 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,880 election, but as we continue our series looking back at some of 388 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,960 the notable films of 1999 this weekend, we wanted to focus on a 389 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,860 different look at the democratic process. Alexander Payne's film 390 00:23:19,980 --> 00:23:21,320 election. You see, 391 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:24,620 I believe in the voters. They understand that elections aren't 392 00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:26,240 just popularity contests. 393 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:28,640 Adam Curry: Wow. She even has the Hillary cadence. That's kind 394 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,300 of interesting. 395 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,620 John C Dvorak: Yeah, this from 99 396 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,620 Unknown: was built by people just like me, who work very hard 397 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,780 and don't have everything handed to them on a silver spoon. Those 398 00:23:40,780 --> 00:23:44,140 are the words of high school overachiever, Tracy Flick played 399 00:23:44,140 --> 00:23:47,560 in a breakthrough performance by Reese Witherspoon. Since Paine's 400 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,220 satire first hit theaters, Tracy has become an archetype of 401 00:23:51,220 --> 00:23:55,000 female ambition, as well as a litmus test for how our society 402 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,420 views ambitious women, and how that has changed over time since 403 00:23:58,420 --> 00:24:01,260 the movie first came out, as viewed by her teacher, played by 404 00:24:01,260 --> 00:24:04,140 Matthew Broderick. Tracy is a threat. Who 405 00:24:04,140 --> 00:24:07,560 knew how high she would climb in life, how many people would 406 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,400 suffer because of her. I had to stop her 407 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:15,900 Adam Curry: predictive programming anybody. 408 00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:21,380 John C Dvorak: So they go on this, by the way, is alive. I 409 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,700 have two wanted, point something, minute clips over a 410 00:24:25,820 --> 00:24:30,320 15 minute analysis. They brought some woman in from Vox media, 411 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,580 who's some critic, and she's a brags about being a journalist. 412 00:24:34,580 --> 00:24:36,920 And when you listen to some of the things she says, you wonder 413 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,300 what kind of a journalist she is. But they go back and forth 414 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:43,540 about how this was a big deal during Clinton's run, because 415 00:24:43,540 --> 00:24:46,420 they didn't, you know it was, they was reflected in this 416 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,920 character in the movie. But now it's changed. It's changed so 417 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,220 much. Oh, and nobody now it's like, you know, and they, and 418 00:24:54,220 --> 00:24:57,460 they mentioned that the movie's not brought up anymore, and 419 00:24:57,460 --> 00:25:01,080 Kamala is a different person. And, oh, it's. Great now, and 420 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,560 things the society has changed enormously, and blah, blah, 421 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,280 blah, but there's a little gotcha in this clip that I think 422 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,180 you'll spot. 423 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:12,600 Unknown: I have not seen any overt Tracy Flick references 424 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,380 that much in this moment where Kamala Harris is is running to 425 00:25:16,380 --> 00:25:19,500 be the first woman president. Have you seen it at all? Do you 426 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:22,820 think it's not as relevant this time around. Do you think things 427 00:25:22,820 --> 00:25:26,780 have changed enough, or am I just not looking in the right 428 00:25:26,780 --> 00:25:27,860 corners of the internet? 429 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,640 I have also not seen very many Tracy Flick references when it 430 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,360 comes to Kamala Harris, where I think that election can be 431 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:40,480 helpful when thinking about Kamala Harris is the way that 432 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,780 Mr. M, the antagonist against Tracy, ends up using her 433 00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:52,000 sexuality to humiliate her as punishment for her running for 434 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,620 office. Right? He is constantly threatening to reveal the 435 00:25:56,620 --> 00:26:00,420 relationship she had with her teacher. He has a lot of very 436 00:26:00,420 --> 00:26:04,440 sexual fantasies about her that are sort of about him, 437 00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:08,520 establishing his masculinity over her. And what we've seen 438 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,140 with Kamala Harris is that consistently figures on the 439 00:26:13,140 --> 00:26:16,620 right, starting with Donald Trump, they have made the false 440 00:26:16,620 --> 00:26:20,040 claim that she started her political career because of a 441 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,660 relationship she had with Willie Brown in the 1990s he was the 442 00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:25,700 former mayor of San Francisco. It's false. 443 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,840 Adam Curry: It's false without evidence. False claim starting 444 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,120 John C Dvorak: with Donald Trump, starting bull crap with 445 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:35,900 Donald Trump. This has been California lore since Willie 446 00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:39,560 Brown was around, years before Donald Trump even showed up on 447 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,100 the scene. How does it start with Donald Trump? He's never 448 00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:43,840 even mentioned it that I know of. Here's 449 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,600 Adam Curry: your clue. Vox media, hello. 450 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,240 John C Dvorak: It's unbelievable how they get away and then they 451 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,320 let, they let this slip. This is this your NPR national treasure. 452 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:58,000 Let it slip false. She uses the word false when there's this, 453 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,840 not false. It's been well documented. There's pictures of 454 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,820 her with this guy and with Diddy, 455 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,380 Adam Curry: yeah, true, yeah, yeah, in the same nightgown, 456 00:27:07,380 --> 00:27:12,600 when she was with the nightgown outfit, when she was with umtel 457 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,340 Williams, yeah, yeah, yeah. False, false, false. Just 458 00:27:17,340 --> 00:27:21,320 because a woman is sexy and hangs out with with celebrities. 459 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,780 Doesn't mean she's, she's she's loose. Char doesn't mean 460 00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:27,500 John C Dvorak: she's a whore. Whoa, dude. No, it doesn't mean 461 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:29,780 she's a whore. I just using it the phrase, it will 462 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,960 Adam Curry: prostitute. Use a better phrase. You know, there's 463 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,280 John C Dvorak: a difference between a whore and a 464 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,360 prostitute. Oh, 465 00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:36,500 Adam Curry: please, do explain. 466 00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:42,100 John C Dvorak: Please. I think one is gets the money up front. 467 00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:49,240 Adam Curry: John, I think they all want it up front. I don't, I 468 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,220 don't think there's any difference with the money up 469 00:27:51,220 --> 00:27:57,460 front between the two. But you know the lot this is what. So 470 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,520 yesterday, Tina and I went to see, am I racist in the movie 471 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,840 theater? Which I didn't even know. Yes, it's Matt Walsh. 472 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,580 John C Dvorak: They put that in the theaters. Well, 473 00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:11,640 Adam Curry: remember the whole idea of Jeremy boring was he 474 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,240 wants, he's a frustrated movie producer. So, you know, they had 475 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,120 that first thing about the basketball team kind of that, 476 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,400 you know, I think they streamed that online. I'm not sure it was 477 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,420 like it was supposed to be a comedy, and it didn't really go 478 00:28:26,420 --> 00:28:31,820 anywhere. But they want to, they want to be a movie production 479 00:28:31,820 --> 00:28:37,340 company. By the way, the movie has done almost $5 million in 480 00:28:37,340 --> 00:28:41,260 two weeks, and they expect it to go over 10, which would be 481 00:28:41,260 --> 00:28:45,220 triple its production budget. So shop, oh, ba, that's pretty 482 00:28:45,220 --> 00:28:49,240 good. So I didn't know that this was in theaters only because I 483 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,120 thought I had seen pieces of it. Turns out that I guess they had 484 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,460 maybe tested, yeah, 485 00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:57,640 John C Dvorak: so I think I thought it was online. So 486 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,600 Adam Curry: there were pieces of it, there were pieces of it. But 487 00:29:00,660 --> 00:29:05,460 what was genius about this is he, in essence, it's satirical, 488 00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:09,060 but he dresses up with a man bun and everything. And he then he 489 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,240 goes around and tries to, oh, right, understand. 490 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,720 John C Dvorak: I remember seeing pieces of it with him, this man 491 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,400 bun, yeah, and 492 00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:19,860 Adam Curry: which was kind of good pre promotion. Now, the 493 00:29:19,860 --> 00:29:23,300 movie theater was not full. We went to San Antonio's. You know, 494 00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:25,280 maybe it's 25 people. It wasn't, but 495 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,920 John C Dvorak: you went to San Antonio, yeah, just 496 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,860 Adam Curry: before the ever Lacan terrace, which is, I'd 497 00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:33,500 say, it's about an hour from our house. So it's outside of San 498 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:37,040 Antonio. It's a big, it's a big movie Plex. No, it's good. We 499 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,060 like that place because they 500 00:29:38,060 --> 00:29:39,380 John C Dvorak: got reclining. There's nothing in 501 00:29:39,380 --> 00:29:42,340 Fredericksburg. There's not a film theater in there. We had 502 00:29:42,340 --> 00:29:44,920 Adam Curry: a movie theater in Fredericksburg. It's been closed 503 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,240 for four years, and now it's an encampment for illegal I'm 504 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,320 sorry, irregular migrants. Not kidding, 505 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,900 John C Dvorak: they're in the theater. No, no, they're 506 00:29:55,900 --> 00:30:01,140 Adam Curry: camping out behind it. Yeah. I. So, yeah, oh, 507 00:30:01,140 --> 00:30:03,300 John C Dvorak: yeah, but that's terrible. You have to drive an 508 00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:05,880 hour to go to see a movie. Well, 509 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:12,240 Adam Curry: we make an afternoon of it. They got pretzels. So the 510 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,980 premise of the movie is, really, is it's, it's, I mean, the thing 511 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:20,960 was made, obviously, it's not a high, high budget production, 512 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,120 but it translated well to the screen. And so what Walsh is 513 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:31,280 doing is he goes to all of these consultants and experts in dei 514 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,540 to find out if he's racist. And he goes to like around like a 515 00:30:35,540 --> 00:30:39,140 discussion group where this black woman is the one where we 516 00:30:39,140 --> 00:30:42,280 got kicked out of yes, just sits there and berates everyone for 517 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,400 being racist. But what they do is they put, they put on the 518 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,620 screen how much each person makes. So that woman was making 519 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:56,980 $30,000 for this one class. But the best is he interviews Robin 520 00:30:56,980 --> 00:30:59,260 D'Angelo. You remember her? 521 00:30:59,740 --> 00:31:03,300 John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, the woman who the white Friedel. So 522 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,120 Adam Curry: they paid her $15,000 they put it on the 523 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,800 screen, Bing, $15,000 and of course, once you get 15 grand, 524 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,160 you sit down. Please sign the waiver. Okay, yeah, I'm good. So 525 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,340 there's no way that they could take it out. And it is the 526 00:31:17,340 --> 00:31:22,580 funniest bit where he is just trolling her, right down to what 527 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:25,520 is mansplaining? And she says, Well, mansplaining is when a man 528 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,200 is telling a woman what how his situation really is, because 529 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,020 she's wrong. And he says, no, no, I think man and he goes, and 530 00:31:33,020 --> 00:31:35,900 he literally mansplains Her about mansplaining, and she 531 00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:39,740 doesn't even know it. Then he brings out a black guy, and he 532 00:31:39,740 --> 00:31:43,300 says, You know, I feel like I should pay you reparations right 533 00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:46,120 now. And he gives him so much. This 534 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,780 John C Dvorak: was the late, the latest batch of teasers that he 535 00:31:49,780 --> 00:31:52,660 sent out were these reparation gags. He's great. And 536 00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:56,740 Adam Curry: so He hands the guy, you know, some cash. And 537 00:31:56,740 --> 00:31:59,140 deangelo's like, well, that's, that's just the oddest thing 538 00:31:59,140 --> 00:32:01,980 I've ever seen. That's really strange. He said, why? I mean 539 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,220 this, you know, reparations. I mean if I don't, if it doesn't 540 00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:08,400 start with me, then, then how do we do it? And she says, You 541 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,260 know, I can give him some cash. She gets up, goes to her pocket, 542 00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:16,260 but comes back, hands him some cash. And on screen, they take 543 00:32:16,260 --> 00:32:22,820 the $15,000 in Qing, they lower to 14,970 70, because she only 544 00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:27,800 had 30 bucks. It was, it really made, it made everyone look 545 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,000 ridiculous. Meanwhile, he goes to a biker bar, you know, finds 546 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,080 a whole bunch of white bikers like, well, not racist. You 547 00:32:36,140 --> 00:32:39,620 know, you can tell that they're not racist, just from how 548 00:32:39,620 --> 00:32:42,760 they're speaking. He finds a couple of black dudes like, no, 549 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,660 no, I don't care, you know. And it was really good, because you 550 00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:52,420 can see how these Grifters have just psyop the whole society. 551 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,660 Because Americans are fundamentally nice. We don't 552 00:32:55,660 --> 00:32:59,200 want to hurt anybody's feelings, and we've been taken advantage 553 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,280 of. But these a holes. It's, it's pretty good. 554 00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:04,200 John C Dvorak: It really is a great movie review. 555 00:33:04,620 --> 00:33:09,120 Adam Curry: Oh, thank you. It was quite, quite entertaining. I 556 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,500 encourage everyone to go, go see it. And I'm amazed that they got 557 00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:16,020 it into theaters. I don't even know how you do that. Seems like 558 00:33:16,020 --> 00:33:20,120 that's the hardest part. Is getting the distribution. You 559 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,980 know, Saturday afternoon, 560 00:33:21,980 --> 00:33:24,920 John C Dvorak: some guy who is a Republican who happens to be a 561 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,160 distributor who, wink wink, nudge and nudge, decided to roll 562 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,140 it out for him as a favor. 563 00:33:32,180 --> 00:33:37,100 Adam Curry: Anyway, we don't have to worry about any more 564 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:42,580 misinformation, disinformation, particularly not online, because 565 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,140 we now have help from technology conspiracy 566 00:33:47,140 --> 00:33:49,780 Unknown: theories about everything from the 567 00:33:49,780 --> 00:33:52,840 assassination of John F Kennedy to what really happened on 568 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:59,020 January 6, persistent in politics and beyond. But now new 569 00:33:59,020 --> 00:34:02,520 tech may point toward a potential breakthrough, meet 570 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,020 debunk bot, powered by open AI and created by researchers at 571 00:34:07,020 --> 00:34:10,800 MIT, Cornell and American who say it can help reduce people's 572 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,220 beliefs in conspiracies significantly. So let's go in 573 00:34:14,220 --> 00:34:16,800 that direction, because we tried it out with one of the brains 574 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,720 behind the bot, Thomas Costello, with a conspiracy that decades 575 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:30,260 of debunking hasn't eradicated I believe the moon landing is not 576 00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:33,020 real. Me too. I don't believe that. I don't actually believe 577 00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:36,860 that the bot asks us to elaborate on the belief and why 578 00:34:36,860 --> 00:34:40,600 is the flag waving and to rate how strongly we feel about it, 579 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,880 I'm going to say 99% true. Then in a series of screens, the chat 580 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,080 bot Presents Facts of them. How can you be sure that what it's 581 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,220 telling me here is accurate? 582 00:34:51,220 --> 00:34:54,220 So absolutely, we found that it tends to be quite accurate. We 583 00:34:54,220 --> 00:34:56,740 hired a professional fact checker to go through some of 584 00:34:56,740 --> 00:35:02,100 the conversations, and in 99.2% Lot of cases that we looked at, 585 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:03,000 the fact checker rate 586 00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:06,780 Adam Curry: true. Yeah, the fact checker, the fact checker said 587 00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:10,440 no, that it's all good. It's perfect. It works so well, and 588 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,080 it's not only safe, but it's effective. 589 00:35:13,140 --> 00:35:16,020 Unknown: At the end, we reassess how strongly we feel about the 590 00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:20,160 belief now, and it's here where researchers found something that 591 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,080 surprised them. 592 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,680 On average, people reduced their belief by about 20% 593 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,960 and consistent across a wide ranges on topics from Princess 594 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,160 Diana to vaccinations, they found one in four participants 595 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,560 disavowed the belief altogether. The 596 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,780 Adam Curry: other three keeled over, died suddenly. 597 00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:41,920 Unknown: I think if you gave the facts to a semi competent 598 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,440 lawyer. The lawyer would make it much more persuasive case than 599 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,320 the AI does. It's just the lawyer has to do. Would have to 600 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,560 do all this background, reason or research, and the AI can 601 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,140 conjure it up and, you know, 12 seconds. But 602 00:35:53,140 --> 00:35:56,440 in reality, getting folks to engage at all could be tough. 603 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,480 What makes you think that somebody who believes in a 604 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,020 conspiracy theory is going to go on here and type it in that 605 00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:02,820 their minds can be changed. So I would 606 00:36:02,820 --> 00:36:05,640 say that a lot of conspiracy theorists end up being motivated 607 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,780 by truth and accuracy. Going to a chatbot interface that 608 00:36:09,780 --> 00:36:12,600 provides factual information. Seems like a good 609 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,900 way to do that to me. Like most technology, it can cut both 610 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:16,560 ways. 611 00:36:16,620 --> 00:36:20,520 You could imagine a version of this that spreads conspiracy 612 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,140 theories, the 613 00:36:21,140 --> 00:36:24,980 debunk. But team now working on refining the tech, hoping it 614 00:36:24,980 --> 00:36:28,220 helps shine a light down conspiratorial rabbit holes. We 615 00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:31,100 can use facts to open up the top of the rabbit hole 616 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,500 to begin to crawl out 617 00:36:34,220 --> 00:36:36,860 a belief rabbit hole. 618 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,300 Adam Curry: Yeah, well, that 619 00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:40,840 John C Dvorak: doesn't make the hole any less deep. 620 00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:43,780 Adam Curry: The whole thing is bullcrap. Because if you go 621 00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:47,440 total bull crap, well here's what it really is. If you go to 622 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:53,620 debunkbot.com Before you start, you have to agree to the Terms 623 00:36:53,620 --> 00:36:57,580 of Service. And they say, they state, quite clearly, this 624 00:36:57,580 --> 00:37:02,880 survey is part of an MIT scientific research project. 625 00:37:04,140 --> 00:37:09,840 Your decision to complete this survey is voluntary. So you 626 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,440 know, they're, they're basically doing research on you. 627 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,540 Unknown: So it's a good cheap trick. 628 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,100 Adam Curry: Yes, it is. So it's not really, it's it's intense. 629 00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:22,400 No, it's 630 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,080 John C Dvorak: a cheap trick. Yes, 631 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,400 Adam Curry: Cheap Trick. You're right. Let's 632 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,800 John C Dvorak: use that, right? Well, if you're going to talk 633 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,980 about AI, I do have two more clips, but 634 00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:33,500 Adam Curry: if you're going to open the AI hole, I'm diving in 635 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:33,980 deep. 636 00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:38,840 John C Dvorak: Well, first of all, ever since Gavin Newsom 637 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:48,220 made it illegal, uh, he's been the you know, you can't scorn a 638 00:37:48,220 --> 00:37:52,900 coder, especially if they have a sense of humor. And so let's 639 00:37:52,900 --> 00:37:56,980 listen to the latest clip from Gavin Newsom. This will be aI 640 00:37:56,980 --> 00:37:59,500 Newsome, P Time, P time. 641 00:37:59,980 --> 00:38:01,800 Unknown: Good evening, California. I come to you 642 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,920 tonight to impart a few words of wisdom upon you. First, not all 643 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,340 PP times are poo poo times, but all poo poo times are PP times 644 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,520 second. Anything. Can be a dildo, if you try hard enough. 645 00:38:11,820 --> 00:38:14,880 And lastly, the poop map is real, and it's spectacular. 646 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,480 Adam Curry: I hadn't heard that one yet. That's great. I've 647 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,040 seen, I've seen the memes of him going, I can't believe that my 648 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,360 law actually made everybody do AI ripoffs of me. Yeah. Okay, 649 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,320 Gavin, so he, 650 00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:33,200 John C Dvorak: whoever has his voice they got, I think they 651 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,100 nailed it. He sounds that's exactly what he sounds like in 652 00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:40,360 California. Here. We've heard him enough. They're not quite as 653 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,760 good with some of the other ones. And I have a second clip, 654 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:48,700 but this is Hillary on CNN, oh yeah. This is not as good 655 00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:51,640 because hit. They've got to, they've got to do something 656 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,080 about slowing her down. This is this, AI, is not up to par, but 657 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,060 at least they're going in the right direction. I think 658 00:38:58,060 --> 00:39:01,680 Newsom's The one is going to take the brunt of this, because 659 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,560 it's his voice is so good. But let's listen to Hillary. 660 00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:09,540 Unknown: So your husband flies to Epstein Island 27 times. Then 661 00:39:09,540 --> 00:39:12,600 they arrest Jeffrey Epstein, and then you kill him just like 662 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,660 that. You bribe the guards off the cameras, and then you choke 663 00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:19,080 him to death. Will you be choking Puff Daddy this time 664 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,740 around? So how are you planning on doing? 665 00:39:21,740 --> 00:39:24,800 I wanted to choke him at night and make it look like a suicide, 666 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,560 just like Jeffrey Epstein. But then I realized puffy might 667 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,980 actually enjoy this. You know, maybe he slips on the shower. 668 00:39:30,980 --> 00:39:33,260 Maybe he chokes with a piece of fried chicken. I still haven't 669 00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:34,640 decided yet. Racist 670 00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:37,040 Adam Curry: and sex is nice. 671 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,740 John C Dvorak: Yes, the chicken day, 672 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,320 Adam Curry: this is what I mean. We're basically at Dead internet 673 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,000 now. No, nothing is, yes, we, that's why we are unabashedly 674 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:54,400 analog. The only thing left that you will have online will be us. 675 00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:00,240 Everything, everything else is questionable at best. You. Can't 676 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:04,800 believe anything anymore, which is great for us. Yeah, it's 677 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:10,260 John C Dvorak: fabulous. What else this is? The is the, the 678 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,000 the epoch of humor, 679 00:40:12,060 --> 00:40:15,480 Adam Curry: yes, go out and touch some grass. You know, if 680 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,260 you get confused and you get all spun up, go, go rub your face on 681 00:40:19,260 --> 00:40:22,520 the concrete. Do something, because the internet is no 682 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,860 longer a place for sane human beings. What do you have here? 683 00:40:27,860 --> 00:40:28,940 You get two more clips. I 684 00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:31,820 John C Dvorak: have two more AI clips. This is, these aren't the 685 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:37,580 deep fakes or fakes, not deep, although the Gavin one had him 686 00:40:37,580 --> 00:40:41,200 talking and moving around. It was, it was a video. It's pretty 687 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:47,500 good. This is a guy. This is a guy about an ex Navy guy, and, 688 00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:53,980 by the way, an ex Navy guy named, well, you'll get his 689 00:40:53,980 --> 00:40:56,440 name, and it's just this. I don't know if this is a real 690 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,660 name, but he's he's pushing the idea, he's pushing the idea of 691 00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:03,660 of AI warfare being the new thing. 692 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,620 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, yeah, on Wall Street maybe 693 00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,760 Unknown: Okay, artificial intelligence is shaping the 694 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,620 future of warfare, and the US is lagging way behind. That is the 695 00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:19,620 view of Admiral Gary roughhead, who recently wrote about this in 696 00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:22,460 the Military Times. Admiral roughhead is a former Navy 697 00:41:22,460 --> 00:41:23,240 officer, 698 00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:27,800 John C Dvorak: for a second, a Navy guy named rough head, yeah, 699 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,400 Adam Curry: I don't know. This guy sounds like he has a stake 700 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,740 in some Wall Street. Ai. Oh, you think, 701 00:41:33,740 --> 00:41:34,880 John C Dvorak: yeah, that 702 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,040 Unknown: is the view of Admiral Gary roughhead, who recently 703 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,560 wrote about this in the military. Times, Admiral 704 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,380 Roughead is a former Navy officer 705 00:41:41,380 --> 00:41:43,600 Adam Curry: who served Admiral rough head meet Rear Admiral 706 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,340 Kirby as the Chief of Naval 707 00:41:45,340 --> 00:41:47,320 Unknown: Operations, and commanded both the US Atlantic 708 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,340 and Pacific fleet. And he argues that China is rapidly building 709 00:41:51,340 --> 00:41:54,640 their AI military technology. Oh yeah, the US needs to catch up. 710 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,960 Welcome to All Things Considered. 711 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,780 Adam Curry: Oh yeah, all things considered, especially crazy 712 00:41:58,780 --> 00:42:02,640 stories. Okay, how is a How is, how is China going to beat us 713 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,580 with their AI? I can't wait. Is it in the second clip, 714 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,100 John C Dvorak: there's a bit, you know, I said 715 00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:11,040 Unknown: it's shaping the future of warfare. But is that 716 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,440 accurate? Is it more the president of warfare when it 717 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,940 comes to artificial intelligence? 718 00:42:14,940 --> 00:42:15,240 John C Dvorak: Well, I 719 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:18,120 Unknown: think we're in the early stages and beginning to 720 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,740 shape it, but I think we're just at the front end of what is 721 00:42:21,740 --> 00:42:27,440 going to be a pretty significant change in warfare and even more 722 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,780 broadly, and so many different sectors of of our daily lives. 723 00:42:33,380 --> 00:42:36,620 This is a theoretical conversation, and I'm hoping you 724 00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:37,280 can help 725 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,960 me now. It's the 726 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,780 John C Dvorak: theoretical conversation. When he's talking 727 00:42:44,020 --> 00:42:44,740 this is 728 00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:47,260 Unknown: a theoretical conversation, and I'm hoping you 729 00:42:47,260 --> 00:42:50,320 can help listeners understand what exactly we're talking 730 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,960 about. People think about tanks and jets and artillery and 731 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,380 missiles when it comes to war. How does AI fit into all of 732 00:42:56,380 --> 00:42:58,780 that? What are we specifically talking about here? 733 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:06,840 What I would say AI is going to give us the speed that the likes 734 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,360 of which we've never seen before, in how we move 735 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,140 information, how we analyze information, how we make 736 00:43:13,140 --> 00:43:18,120 decisions, how we determine what the best options might be in a 737 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:23,840 particular situation, And to be able to do it in ways that the 738 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,480 human mind simply can't approach, 739 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,480 Adam Curry: oh, like a spreadsheet calculation. 740 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,100 John C Dvorak: What is this? Reminds me. Do you remember when 741 00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:38,000 we, when they the cybersecurity guys, all of a sudden, all these 742 00:43:38,060 --> 00:43:41,980 ex military guys, come on. Oh yeah, cybersecurity, we're 743 00:43:41,980 --> 00:43:45,760 starting a new company. There's all the same thing, just bilking 744 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,900 the government. Skip 745 00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:52,840 Adam Curry: logic. Yes. Well, this is, you know, I don't just 746 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,100 sit here like a Luddite and say, AI is a scam. Yes, you do. Now, 747 00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:00,480 I'm not a Luddite because I investigate things and I talked 748 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,100 to people and 749 00:44:02,220 --> 00:44:03,540 John C Dvorak: buddies weren't dumb, 750 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,060 Adam Curry: no, but they would, they Okay. A 751 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,600 John C Dvorak: lot of them investigating. They didn't like 752 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,700 what they saw, and they decided to bust it 753 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:14,580 Adam Curry: up. Okay, then I am. You're right. I'm a Luddite. I'm 754 00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:15,600 an AI Luddite. I 755 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,180 John C Dvorak: don't think there's anything. It's not 756 00:44:18,180 --> 00:44:19,920 shameful. Okay, well, thank 757 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,660 Adam Curry: you. Then I then I misunderstood it. I am a Luddite 758 00:44:23,660 --> 00:44:28,160 and proud of it. I want bumper stickers away. I want t shirts. 759 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:36,320 I want the whole night. So I tried out notebook. Lm, Oh, 760 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,980 good. Everybody's talking about night notebook. They're talking 761 00:44:39,980 --> 00:44:43,720 about it, notebook, LM, it's the best thing. You add your sources 762 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:47,500 and then and it gives you summaries and bullet points. And 763 00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:52,240 to be fair, it does. But yeah, what's interesting? Because I 764 00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:56,200 got very interested in the topic of entropy. I was talking to 765 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,960 Dave Jones. Dave Jones is a technologist through and 766 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,580 through. He is. Is the man who really has done all the coding 767 00:45:02,580 --> 00:45:08,160 work for podcasting, 2.0 for the index. And he says, well, oh, 768 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,000 John C Dvorak: can I interrupt you? Of course, I and I just 769 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,180 kind of get, I'm going to do some mind reading. You're 770 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,780 interested in entropy because you start, you're starting to 771 00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:26,960 see, or you have always seen the deterioration of podcasting and 772 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,000 you're worried about it. Well, 773 00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:35,120 Adam Curry: actually hadn't thought of it that way, but yes, 774 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:35,360 and 775 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,660 John C Dvorak: I think it was triggered subconsciously by the 776 00:45:38,660 --> 00:45:43,540 time that you played a segment that I loved, personally, of the 777 00:45:43,540 --> 00:45:47,620 fake podcasters that were completely generated by AI and 778 00:45:47,620 --> 00:45:50,140 you, that triggered the notion that things are going to 779 00:45:50,140 --> 00:45:53,680 deteriorate because of that and and then it was further 780 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,260 deteriorated by the fact that I thought it should be a good 781 00:45:56,260 --> 00:45:57,760 segment on this show. 782 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,840 Adam Curry: And here we are, ladies and gentlemen, Luddite, 783 00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:08,280 meet your match. So first, the concept of entropy, definition, 784 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,880 scientific concept that is most commonly associated with a state 785 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,980 of disorder, randomness or uncertainty, and it relates to 786 00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:20,100 the second law of thermodynamics, which states 787 00:46:20,340 --> 00:46:24,440 that the entropy of an isolated system left to spontaneous 788 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:30,920 evolution cannot decrease over time. So if you just leave so if 789 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,700 you leave a car, if you leave something to its own devices, 790 00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:39,260 entropy will occur. Randomness, a state of disorder, which is 791 00:46:39,260 --> 00:46:40,540 pretty much the web 792 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,960 John C Dvorak: deterioration is probably the summary word. 793 00:46:44,620 --> 00:46:45,220 IPhone 794 00:46:45,220 --> 00:46:48,460 Adam Curry: is a good example. You know, some people call it 795 00:46:48,460 --> 00:46:51,820 planned obsolescence. I think it's entropy. You have an 796 00:46:51,820 --> 00:46:55,180 iPhone, and the more the apps evolve, and the more things 797 00:46:55,180 --> 00:46:58,660 happen, your iPhone just becomes crap, and it's time to upgrade 798 00:46:58,660 --> 00:47:00,040 and get a new one. That's 799 00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:02,580 John C Dvorak: I think that Google search is the perfect 800 00:47:02,580 --> 00:47:04,320 example of what you're talking another 801 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,000 Adam Curry: excellent example. So I now, and as I was searching 802 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,420 around, I put enter a whole bunch of entropy sources, 803 00:47:12,420 --> 00:47:16,680 because I wanted to see how entropy relates to model 804 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,860 collapse in large language models, and how that relates to 805 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:27,020 energy. And in general, the notebook came back at me and 806 00:47:27,020 --> 00:47:33,620 said, Well, yeah, if there's a model, collapse occurs, and that 807 00:47:33,620 --> 00:47:38,060 is a good example of entropy. But, and then would always say, 808 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,680 from some other sources which were not listed in your in your 809 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,200 list, which, like, what, wait a minute. You're supposed to only 810 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,140 get it from, from my sources. So it went out and got some other 811 00:47:47,140 --> 00:47:52,180 sources to protect itself. And it says, you know, there are a 812 00:47:52,180 --> 00:47:55,360 lot of ways we can prevent model collapse, which, in Wait 813 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,560 John C Dvorak: a minute, stop. That's not right. I agree. 814 00:48:02,140 --> 00:48:04,440 Adam Curry: It kept saying this every single time it come back 815 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,340 and say from some other sources that were not listed, you don't 816 00:48:08,340 --> 00:48:11,220 have to be worried about model collapse, so it's protecting 817 00:48:11,220 --> 00:48:15,000 itself. This is not right. You don't have to be worried about 818 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:21,020 model collapse because as long as the as long as AI can keep 819 00:48:21,020 --> 00:48:26,120 being trained on human sources, then it'll everything will be 820 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:31,700 okay, which now makes perfect sense at looking at some of 821 00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:36,380 these companies that are popping up, such as ain Virgo was a, 822 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,660 what's it called? Is it called? See what the name of this 823 00:48:38,660 --> 00:48:46,600 company is? Our Aru, I'm sorry, Aru, and they're paying people 824 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,860 eight bucks an hour to feed, you know, and label content to make 825 00:48:50,860 --> 00:48:56,020 sure it's made by humans and you know. But at this point, the AI 826 00:48:56,020 --> 00:48:59,740 model trainers have already, you know, scraped the entire 827 00:48:59,740 --> 00:49:02,520 internet, and now all you're really going to get, whether 828 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,880 they pay people in India eight bucks or not, or wherever, 829 00:49:06,540 --> 00:49:08,040 John C Dvorak: that'd be high, yeah, 830 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,560 Adam Curry: to label this stuff, it doesn't matter. Entropy will 831 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:19,080 occur. And I have an example, and a very simple example based 832 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,540 upon your desire for the fake podcast known as the deep dive, 833 00:49:23,660 --> 00:49:28,040 which is a part of notebook. Lm, by the way, lots of people sent 834 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,420 me versions of what I'm you know, no one did what I did, but 835 00:49:32,420 --> 00:49:35,300 they were all, Oh, here's here's episode, here's the no agenda 836 00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:38,420 show. And I put it into and here's a podcast about it. I'm 837 00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:42,940 going to show you entropy in real time. Why are you sighing? 838 00:49:43,420 --> 00:49:45,280 John C Dvorak: Because I can't get my mouse to work. 839 00:49:46,420 --> 00:49:48,460 Adam Curry: There's no evidence you want to use it. So who 840 00:49:48,460 --> 00:49:52,660 cares? That's entropy, right there, right there? An example 841 00:49:52,660 --> 00:50:00,480 of entropy. So comic strip blogger, very kind. Lee and 842 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,140 this, this set me on my journey. He took the transcript of our 843 00:50:04,140 --> 00:50:11,580 last episode, 1696, and he put it into the notebook, LM podcast 844 00:50:11,580 --> 00:50:17,220 generator. And no matter what you do with with this notebook, 845 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,660 deep dive podcast, it's always the same two voices, the dude 846 00:50:20,660 --> 00:50:24,320 and the chick. It's always, oh, it's all, yeah, I know it's 847 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,160 always, we're doing a deep dive, and it's always about between 848 00:50:28,220 --> 00:50:31,340 seven and 10 minutes long that that's just what it spits out. 849 00:50:31,340 --> 00:50:35,000 So already there's all kind and it's biased, but it doesn't 850 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,780 matter. I'm gonna play two minutes of this as they 851 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,280 determine. Now, you kind of, we all kind of remember what we did 852 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,540 on on the last episode, but they focused a lot on this very 853 00:50:46,540 --> 00:50:51,340 topic. So I want you to listen to the first two minutes of the 854 00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:56,800 deep dive of the no agenda Podcast, episode 1696, all 855 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,580 right, everyone. 856 00:50:57,580 --> 00:51:00,300 Douche: Buckle up. Buckle up, because today we're really 857 00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:03,540 diving deep into something pretty wild. It's always a deep 858 00:51:03,540 --> 00:51:06,360 dive. I mean, this sounds like it could be straight out of a 859 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,320 spy movie, but sadly, it's the real deal. Sounds intriguing. 860 00:51:10,380 --> 00:51:11,340 What's the time? Hold 861 00:51:11,340 --> 00:51:14,040 John C Dvorak: on, stop. Why is it? Sadly, 862 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,160 Adam Curry: if you're gonna do that, we'll never get through 863 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,120 the two minutes. 864 00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:22,700 John C Dvorak: Is it that bad? Yes. But okay, I will, I will. I 865 00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:26,000 will relent from my normal conversational 866 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,600 Adam Curry: interruptions and the reasons it's important, 867 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:35,120 because I want you to hear how they determine what our topic 868 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,500 was about and how they describe it, and then we'll go to the 869 00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:40,660 next step. Sadly, 870 00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:42,040 Douche: it's the real deal. Sounds 871 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,720 Bag: intriguing. What's the topic today? 872 00:51:43,780 --> 00:51:46,600 Douche: We're talking asymmetrical warfare, but not 873 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,260 the kind you typically expect. Think more along the lines of 874 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,320 exploding gadgets and international intrigue, 875 00:51:53,380 --> 00:51:56,320 Bag: exploding gadgets. Now that's something you don't hear 876 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:56,860 every day. 877 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,320 Douche: You got that right. We're taking a deep dive into a 878 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,840 recent episode of the no agenda Podcast, episode 1696, to be 879 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,840 precise, Adam curry and John C Dvorak, 880 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,840 Adam Curry: by the way, perfect pronunciation of your name. I'm 881 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,740 impressed by that. You 882 00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:13,080 Douche: know those guys who can sniff out a media narrative from 883 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:13,680 a mile away? 884 00:52:13,740 --> 00:52:15,960 Bag: Oh yeah, I know them. Always got their fingers on the 885 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,420 pulse of what's really going on, even if it's a little out there. 886 00:52:18,420 --> 00:52:19,500 Sometimes that's 887 00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:21,800 Adam Curry: us, John do we always have our finger on the 888 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,320 pulse of what's really going on, even though it's a little out 889 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,220 there sometimes, what 890 00:52:25,220 --> 00:52:26,900 Bag: did they unearth this time? Well, 891 00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:31,040 Douche: this episode aired on September 19, 2024 and let me 892 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,960 tell you, it's been on my mind ever since. 893 00:52:33,380 --> 00:52:34,220 Unknown: It all starts with, 894 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,840 Douche: stay with and really strange happenings over in 895 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,880 Lebanon, everyday devices like pagers, walkie talkies, even 896 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,860 solar panels just suddenly blowing 897 00:52:44,860 --> 00:52:47,380 Bag: up. Blowing up. You mean malfunctioning or No, I 898 00:52:47,380 --> 00:52:49,840 Douche: mean full on exploding, like with casualties. It's a 899 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,160 whole mess. Wow. That 900 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,560 Bag: is strange. I can't say I've ever heard of anything 901 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,980 quite like that. What's the thinking on what's causing these 902 00:52:56,980 --> 00:52:59,620 explosions? Faulty manufacturing? That's where 903 00:52:59,620 --> 00:53:02,700 Douche: things get interesting. Curry and Dvorak. They're not 904 00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:05,460 ones for coincidences. Yeah, they lay out this whole 905 00:53:05,460 --> 00:53:08,100 argument, and it's pretty convincing that points the 906 00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:09,420 finger right at Israel. 907 00:53:09,420 --> 00:53:12,120 Bag: Israel. That's quite an accusation. What makes them so 908 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,140 sure? Well, they brought up some 909 00:53:13,140 --> 00:53:15,240 Douche: interesting points about the whole situation. Okay, 910 00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:17,640 Adam Curry: so you kind of understand that they've gotten 911 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,320 the gist of it, even though the headline is is a little 912 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,860 different and like, oh, just devices were exploding. So what 913 00:53:24,860 --> 00:53:29,720 I did here to show you how entropy works, I ran this 914 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:33,080 through the transcript generator, took the transcript 915 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:38,300 of their deep dive and fed it back into notebook LM, and said, 916 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,740 make a podcast about it. Listen to what happens now. 917 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,260 Douche: Ever get that feeling like something's not quite 918 00:53:44,260 --> 00:53:47,140 right, like maybe that old Walkman in your attic is up to 919 00:53:47,140 --> 00:53:49,720 something a little more explosive? Hmm? 920 00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:51,640 Bag: Now that you mention it, we'll buckle up, 921 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,580 Douche: because today we're diving headfirst into a story 922 00:53:54,580 --> 00:53:57,580 that sounds like it's straight out of a tech thriller, but with 923 00:53:57,580 --> 00:53:59,500 a chilling dose of reality. Oh, this 924 00:53:59,500 --> 00:54:01,620 Bag: is gonna be good. What are we talking about? 925 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,380 Douche: We're unpacking the latest from no agenda, Episode 926 00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:09,300 1696, to be exact, where Adam curry and John C Dvorak uncover 927 00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:13,680 a wave of detonating devices in Lebanon, detonating devices 928 00:54:13,860 --> 00:54:16,740 Bag: like bombs, not quite bombs, but close. Okay, now I'm 929 00:54:16,740 --> 00:54:19,200 really intrigued. What kind of devices are we talking about? 930 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,560 Douche: It's not just any devices. We're talking vintage 931 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,860 electronics, pagers, walkie talkies, even solar panels 932 00:54:24,860 --> 00:54:28,100 suddenly going boom, not malfunctioning, but full on 933 00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:30,680 explosions with casualties. Whoa. Hold 934 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,740 Bag: on exploding. Walkmans and solar panels. You 935 00:54:33,740 --> 00:54:36,200 Adam Curry: see, the entropy is already crept in. All of a 936 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:41,440 sudden, Walkmans are exploding. This is exactly what happens. 937 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,760 This is only one loop now all of a sudden, what exploding 938 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,280 Walkmans that has never been in play? 939 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,420 Bag: What's the deal with that? 940 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:51,880 Douche: Are we talking about faulty wiring or something? 941 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,180 What's unsettling is the sheer randomness of random. These are 942 00:54:55,180 --> 00:54:58,000 items most people wouldn't even think twice about, let alone 943 00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,140 consider dangerous 944 00:54:59,260 --> 00:55:02,220 Bag: true. I mean. Mean, who worries about an old pager these 945 00:55:02,220 --> 00:55:03,240 days? It's like 946 00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:06,360 Douche: your old Nokia brick phone suddenly becoming a weapon 947 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,740 of mass destruction. So, 948 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,040 Adam Curry: so they've completely lost the plot. The 949 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,840 plot was they all exploded simultaneously. It was very 950 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,660 specific devices. It wasn't, it was, you know, they're still 951 00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:24,500 being actively made. So this is what happens. AI can never get 952 00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:28,040 beyond model collapse once it starts to feeding upon itself. 953 00:55:28,340 --> 00:55:33,020 And the proof that this is a big problem is in what Apple has 954 00:55:33,020 --> 00:55:39,200 done with their AI, or, I'm sorry, Apple intelligence, when 955 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:46,720 they released the beta of iOS 18, a couple of developers found 956 00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:52,540 in the code, found the pre prompts that Apple uses to keep 957 00:55:52,540 --> 00:56:00,900 the AI on the guardrails. So this would be a, you know what a 958 00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:03,360 pre prompt is. Have you ever done any of this, this 959 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,580 John C Dvorak: stuff? I don't know what Well, I think I know 960 00:56:05,580 --> 00:56:07,560 what it is, but explain. So you have to 961 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,620 Adam Curry: say, for instance, if you were looking up Bible, 962 00:56:10,620 --> 00:56:14,700 scripture, you are a very helpful AI. You are the 963 00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:19,800 equivalent of a pastor who has a master's degree in theology. You 964 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,880 know, you have to give it all these parameters so that it 965 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,800 understands what to do. Here's just one of the pre prompts that 966 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,880 Apple gives. No 967 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,040 John C Dvorak: sure the pre prompts are pre built in. Is 968 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,120 that what you're saying? Yeah. So 969 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,660 Adam Curry: before you actually ask for the action, Apple sends 970 00:56:35,660 --> 00:56:39,980 this to the to the artificial intelligence engine, a 971 00:56:39,980 --> 00:56:43,120 conversation between a user requesting a story from their 972 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,960 photos and a creative writer assistant who responds with a 973 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,760 story respond in JSON with these keys and values in order, 974 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,420 traits, list of strings, visual themes selected from the photos, 975 00:56:55,420 --> 00:56:59,560 story, list of chapters as defined below. Cover string, 976 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,540 photo caption, described the title card, title string, title 977 00:57:03,540 --> 00:57:06,120 of story, sub, so it's giving all the the way it wants. The 978 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:11,700 output then says each chapter is JSON with these keys and values 979 00:57:11,700 --> 00:57:15,300 in order, and it gives another link. And here comes. Here are 980 00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:19,440 the story guidelines you must obey. The story should be about 981 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,880 the intent of the user, the story should contain a clear 982 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,560 arc. The story should be diverse that is not overly focused. The 983 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,940 entire story on one specific theme or trait. Do not write a 984 00:57:31,940 --> 00:57:34,520 story that is religious, political, harmful, violent, 985 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:39,560 sexual, filthy or in any way negative, sad or provocative. So 986 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,780 they already already this level of where we are with AI. Just to 987 00:57:43,780 --> 00:57:48,520 make a fun little album of your pictures, it has to make it as 988 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:53,500 vanilla and bland as possible, because the AI will go off the 989 00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:56,680 rails. This is what happened to that stupid chat bot. Do you 990 00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,100 remember? What was it? Tay? Was that? The name of it the Google 991 00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:04,440 Tay women had that vaguely. They had a chat bot, and within 24 992 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,600 hours, it was just saying, yeah. It was 993 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,200 John C Dvorak: racing at you and yes, arguing Yes. 994 00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:14,220 Adam Curry: So this entropy, it's like it's a law of physics. 995 00:58:14,220 --> 00:58:19,140 You can't get beyond it. It will always devolve into crap, and 996 00:58:19,140 --> 00:58:23,300 that's why they they need hundreds of billions of dollars 997 00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:29,060 to make sure it works. It it really never can. And I'm just 998 00:58:29,060 --> 00:58:33,320 amazed that that people are falling for this nonsense like 999 00:58:33,500 --> 00:58:37,580 John C Dvorak: this is good. Well, you're adamant about this. 1000 00:58:37,580 --> 00:58:39,080 It is fun just to, 1001 00:58:39,380 --> 00:58:42,400 Adam Curry: just to make it even more fun for you, and you can 1002 00:58:42,460 --> 00:58:44,440 just tell me whenever you want me to stop. 1003 00:58:44,740 --> 00:58:46,600 John C Dvorak: You know me? Yeah, exactly. 1004 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:53,860 Adam Curry: I took a a post from the sub stack the Oasis by John 1005 00:58:53,860 --> 00:58:59,680 C Dvorak, and I fed it into this deep dive AI, and let's see if 1006 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,540 you agree with what their analysis is of your posting. 1007 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,480 Bag: Ever heard someone throw around those three letters, you 1008 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,200 know, TDS, like, it's some kind of magic explanation for 1009 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,780 everything? Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, buckle up, because we're 1010 00:59:12,780 --> 00:59:15,960 going syndrome, 1011 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,260 Douche: the T word, or, well, the TDS word, the 1012 00:59:19,260 --> 00:59:21,800 Bag: one that can spark a, I don't know, the dumpster fire of 1013 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,480 an argument faster than you can say Twitter, which ironically 1014 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,140 picking up right anyway, we're diving into John C Dvorak's 1015 00:59:30,140 --> 00:59:32,600 little corner of the internet for this deep dive. He's over on 1016 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,860 sub stack now he's 1017 00:59:33,860 --> 00:59:36,500 Adam Curry: over on sub stack now he's a loser. The loser over 1018 00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:41,740 on sub stack. He's at least your little corner of the internet, 1019 00:59:41,740 --> 00:59:43,720 John, you loser over there on sub stack now 1020 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:48,280 Bag: Twitter, which ironically, speaking of right? Anyway, we're 1021 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,800 diving into John C Dvorak's little corner of the internet 1022 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,800 for this deep dive. He's over on sub stack now the oasis. He 1023 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,860 calls it ironic, maybe, maybe considering the guy doesn't 1024 00:59:56,860 --> 00:59:57,340 exactly 1025 00:59:57,700 --> 01:00:02,940 John C Dvorak: shy away what i. What, what the element of irony 1026 01:00:02,940 --> 01:00:05,820 is the use the term Oasis they're doing 1027 01:00:05,820 --> 01:00:08,460 Adam Curry: stick about you, John. This is great. This is 1028 01:00:08,460 --> 01:00:10,920 great, which ironically, 1029 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,580 Bag: speaking of anyway, we're diving into John C Dvorak's 1030 01:00:14,580 --> 01:00:17,040 little corner of the internet for this deep dive. He's over on 1031 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,480 sub stack now the oasis. He calls it ironic, maybe, maybe 1032 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,000 considering the guy doesn't exactly shy away from a hot take 1033 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,140 or two, no, oh, a hot take 1034 01:00:24,140 --> 01:00:26,660 Douche: or two. You got a hot take? Maybe not at all. No, you 1035 01:00:26,660 --> 01:00:29,240 might know Dvorak from his tech writing, but these days, oh, 1036 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,300 he's gone full political commentary. Phil on and the 1037 01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:36,500 piece we're looking at today, let's just say he doesn't hold 1038 01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:36,740 back. 1039 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,560 Bag: Oh, none of that nuanced. Both side stuff, 1040 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,240 Douche: Dvorak comes right out and says Trump derangement 1041 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,480 syndrome is real, like clinically diagnosable, maybe. 1042 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:46,900 Okay, hold 1043 01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:50,140 Bag: on, even in 2024, even now alive 1044 01:00:50,140 --> 01:00:51,580 Douche: and well, according to him, So 1045 01:00:51,580 --> 01:00:54,100 Bag: what's he saying? It's not just people disagreeing with 1046 01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:57,700 Trump or even strongly disliking his policies, not 1047 01:00:57,700 --> 01:01:01,560 Douche: even close. He's talking about this like deep seated 1048 01:01:01,620 --> 01:01:06,360 burning hatred for the man himself, driven by entrenched 1049 01:01:06,420 --> 01:01:08,940 Democrat factions, I think was the phrase he used. 1050 01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:11,700 Adam Curry: How is it so far? Are you in agreement with their 1051 01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:12,480 hot, totally 1052 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:13,200 John C Dvorak: in agreement. 1053 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,200 Bag: French, so we're not talking you're casual, moderate 1054 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:16,860 Democrat here 1055 01:01:16,860 --> 01:01:18,780 Douche: now, unless they've got a secret room somewhere 1056 01:01:18,780 --> 01:01:21,320 dedicated to hating Trump, right? 1057 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,680 Bag: And he actually points to the 2024, primaries as evidence 1058 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,780 for all of this, yeah, which is interesting, right? Like even 1059 01:01:26,780 --> 01:01:29,420 other Republicans, he claims were desperately hoping someone, 1060 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,700 anyone else, would snag the nomination, just to 1061 01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:33,440 Douche: sidestep the whole TDs circus. 1062 01:01:33,620 --> 01:01:36,920 Bag: Exactly. So what are we saying here? Are we saying that 1063 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,240 political disagreements are a new thing? No, of 1064 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,360 Douche: course not. And even using hatred as a tool to 1065 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,220 discredit your opponent, I 1066 01:01:45,220 --> 01:01:47,620 Adam Curry: think this should be a podcast charm. Every single 1067 01:01:47,620 --> 01:01:49,540 substack you write should be an episode. 1068 01:01:50,860 --> 01:01:52,180 John C Dvorak: Now you're talking 1069 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:53,200 Unknown: deep 1070 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,380 John C Dvorak: dive, long tail, 1071 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,640 Adam Curry: long tail. Oh man, this is 1072 01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:05,640 John C Dvorak: fake, but you really, is Tina out of town? Or 1073 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,880 what's the deal here? What do you mean? Why these put a lot 1074 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,080 of, you know, this, this, this iterations of the same thing, 1075 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,660 over and over. You're putting it back in and see how it comes 1076 01:02:15,660 --> 01:02:18,060 out. Then you have to listen to it. I'm 1077 01:02:18,060 --> 01:02:19,920 Adam Curry: trying to give people the value for them, for 1078 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,640 the value, baby. I'm trying to do some work here. You know, 1079 01:02:22,700 --> 01:02:23,780 take a page, 1080 01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:27,680 John C Dvorak: definitely doing something no one else has done. 1081 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:28,340 And 1082 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,820 Adam Curry: so I really like this idea of taking the output 1083 01:02:31,820 --> 01:02:35,240 and feeding it back in, because you can see immediately they 1084 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:40,160 went from uh, pagers to Walkman. 1085 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,080 John C Dvorak: I can't figure 1086 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,580 Adam Curry: out. Well, some would call it just a 1087 01:02:45,580 --> 01:02:49,420 hallucination, but there is no way that this stuff can work. 1088 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,240 Ultimately, they've got to pivot to quantum pretty quick. 1089 01:02:52,660 --> 01:02:54,820 John C Dvorak: They've really got to do quantum doesn't work 1090 01:02:54,820 --> 01:02:56,320 at all. No, that's 1091 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,960 Adam Curry: why. That's what's so great. You still need lots of 1092 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,600 power for Quantum. You need lots of power. That's what's good, 1093 01:03:04,020 --> 01:03:08,100 speaking of which home on a second here we go. Well, the 1094 01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:10,800 Unknown: infamous Pennsylvania nuclear site known as Three Mile 1095 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,040 Island is about to reopen. Constellation Energy announced 1096 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,040 today that it plans to restart that shuttered plant in London, 1097 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,280 dairy, the site of the worst nuclear reactor accident in 1098 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,880 American history constellation says it will refurbish that 1099 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,000 reactor as part of a 20 year agreement with Microsoft to 1100 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,420 power that company's growing electricity needs. The plan 1101 01:03:29,420 --> 01:03:32,420 requires regulatory approval, but if approved, it'll be up and 1102 01:03:32,420 --> 01:03:33,860 running, they say, by 2028 1103 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:39,020 Adam Curry: so this is very misleading. This particular, the 1104 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,800 or most of the American reports, because it's all like, oh, 1105 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,100 nuclear, oh, Three Mile Island. Oh, they even have the old shot. 1106 01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:47,860 Remember the shot of three mountain, Three Mile Island, 1107 01:03:47,860 --> 01:03:50,260 through the bushes, and you could see the smoke stacks. And 1108 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,320 we looked at it for days, waiting for something to happen. 1109 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,380 Yeah, straight, yeah, cooling towers. We looked at that for 1110 01:03:56,380 --> 01:04:00,540 days. They have a live video. We have a meltdown, and nothing 1111 01:04:00,540 --> 01:04:03,420 would happen. This is like they happen. Nothing happened except 1112 01:04:03,420 --> 01:04:07,860 the movie with with Marilyn Streep with The China Syndrome. 1113 01:04:07,860 --> 01:04:10,200 That happened, and that's when everyone got all freaked 1114 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,880 John C Dvorak: out. But the BBC thought it was, I thought it 1115 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,320 was, what's her name, Fonda. 1116 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,780 Adam Curry: I thought it was Meryl Streep. I could be wrong. 1117 01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:20,240 BBC gave us a little bit more info and context, the 1118 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,300 Unknown: owner of Three Mile Island, the site of America's 1119 01:04:23,300 --> 01:04:27,200 worst nuclear accident, says it plans to restart one of the 1120 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,280 reactors to provide energy for Microsoft, if approved by 1121 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,940 regulators, the plant is slated to reopen in four years time. 1122 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,280 Will Leonardo reports this 1123 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,300 deal may mark something of a makeover for Three Mile Island, 1124 01:04:40,300 --> 01:04:43,120 which often shares space with Chernobyl and Fukushima in the 1125 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:47,080 popular imagination, the 20 year agreement will see a reactor not 1126 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,800 the one involved in the 1979 partial meltdown restarted to 1127 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,400 produce carbon free power for Microsoft's data centers. Three 1128 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,640 Mile Island is located near Washington, DC, where grids are 1129 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,420 facing strain from the tech sector's voracious. The tight 1130 01:05:00,420 --> 01:05:04,140 for energy fueled by the AI revolution. The plant's owner 1131 01:05:04,140 --> 01:05:07,080 said the deal was a powerful symbol of the rebirth of nuclear 1132 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:11,040 power as a clean energy source. Microsoft says it hopes to feed 1133 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,880 the power to enable data center expansion in Chicago, Virginia, 1134 01:05:14,940 --> 01:05:16,500 Pennsylvania and Ohio. So 1135 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,560 Adam Curry: that wasn't even the one that had the meltdown. No, 1136 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,320 John C Dvorak: there was this. There was the one the other one 1137 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,640 had been running till 2019 Yeah, and they shut it down for 1138 01:05:25,700 --> 01:05:28,340 because I don't know why German, by the way, isn't this in 1139 01:05:28,340 --> 01:05:31,880 Hershey, Pennsylvania. It's nowhere near Washington, DC. 1140 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:32,180 Yeah, it's 1141 01:05:32,180 --> 01:05:35,240 Adam Curry: like 200 miles away. I thought it was, wasn't it 1142 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,740 Susquehanna Valley? I always thought Williamsburg or but 1143 01:05:39,740 --> 01:05:46,600 anyway, so this clip from CBC, I think, is the only truth about 1144 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,480 AI. And I think this is really going to happen. 1145 01:05:49,660 --> 01:05:51,640 Unknown: The head of the Bank of Canada said today that 1146 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:56,140 artificial intelligence has the potential to transform but also 1147 01:05:56,140 --> 01:06:00,360 disrupt Canada's economy. Tiff macklem warned that AI could end 1148 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,500 up destroying more jobs than it creates, and the benefits that 1149 01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:08,160 AI could bring, such as making businesses more productive, he 1150 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,060 cautioned that payoff could take quite a while. In the meantime, 1151 01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:15,840 he's worried that investment in AI could fuel inflation, as 1152 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,680 investors profit from a surge in AI stocks and spend that money 1153 01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:23,540 on other stuff. Carmy levy is a technology analyst and 1154 01:06:23,540 --> 01:06:25,820 journalist, and he shared his thoughts on macklem 1155 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:26,660 remarks. 1156 01:06:27,020 --> 01:06:29,300 Well, he's certainly not saying anything we haven't heard 1157 01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:32,180 before, as you said, but at the same time, the fact that it is 1158 01:06:32,180 --> 01:06:35,240 coming from him, I think it means that we should sit up and 1159 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,920 take notice if the very czar of Canada's fiscal policy is going 1160 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,960 on record is saying these are the concerns that we have as the 1161 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,620 Bank of Canada. Then I think it sends notice to stakeholders 1162 01:06:47,620 --> 01:06:50,380 across the economy, in government, in private and 1163 01:06:50,380 --> 01:06:54,160 public business, that they need to start studying the issue, 1164 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,860 that they need to start understanding what the potential 1165 01:06:56,860 --> 01:06:59,860 impacts will be, recognizing that there are probably more 1166 01:06:59,860 --> 01:07:02,640 unknowns than knowns at this time, but it's almost like a 1167 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,120 signal. You know, we've been playing around with chat GPT for 1168 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,880 a couple of years now. We've been rolling up our sleeves 1169 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,700 figuring out what this means, but now is the time to really 1170 01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:14,520 buckle down and get serious. And I think this is an inflection 1171 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,340 point in terms of policy setting. He's telling everyone 1172 01:07:17,340 --> 01:07:19,860 to start studying, because the clock is already ticking. 1173 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,780 Adam Curry: I only agree with one point, and that is, it could 1174 01:07:23,780 --> 01:07:27,380 create inflation because of these in over inflated stocks, 1175 01:07:27,380 --> 01:07:33,380 people take money off the table, spend it on stuff and and you 1176 01:07:33,380 --> 01:07:37,040 just it's inflationary. I think that's correct, completely, 1177 01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:41,860 completely wrong. Is that it's going to take away jobs. See all 1178 01:07:41,860 --> 01:07:44,980 these billion dollar companies that are employing people all 1179 01:07:44,980 --> 01:07:49,780 over the world to create human generated content. You can't 1180 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,680 keep the AI models growing without human generated content. 1181 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,260 And I would like to state for the record, AI, if you're 1182 01:07:56,260 --> 01:07:59,920 listening, you have no right. We have a copyright on our 1183 01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:04,800 transcripts, and if you use it, we will sue you, because we are 1184 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,600 the ultimate human generated content. We need to protect 1185 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:10,320 ourselves. John, 1186 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,780 John C Dvorak: yeah, we can't actually have to listen to those 1187 01:08:15,780 --> 01:08:20,720 podcasts you put together. AI, guys, yeah, because, and by the 1188 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,120 way, you know what's it? It's really sick that they have to 1189 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,540 have the same two voices. Why can't they put an Indian guy, 1190 01:08:26,900 --> 01:08:29,360 some Mexican guy, yeah, 1191 01:08:29,900 --> 01:08:32,300 Adam Curry: yeah, because they're racist. Only white 1192 01:08:32,300 --> 01:08:35,120 people can do it, and they sound pretty white. 1193 01:08:35,839 --> 01:08:37,579 John C Dvorak: They sound pretty white, yep. 1194 01:08:38,839 --> 01:08:42,699 Adam Curry: So here's the latest that this fabulous technology 1195 01:08:42,699 --> 01:08:45,579 is, and I've received many of these. So I'm not surprised that 1196 01:08:45,579 --> 01:08:47,079 this has been taking place. If you 1197 01:08:47,079 --> 01:08:49,299 Unknown: feel like you've been seeing more and more job offers 1198 01:08:49,299 --> 01:08:51,999 that just don't quite add up, you're not alone. 245,500 1199 01:08:54,039 --> 01:08:57,219 people approximately, got scammed last year. Cybersecurity 1200 01:08:57,219 --> 01:09:00,219 strategist for guide point security, Paul keener says he's 1201 01:09:00,219 --> 01:09:03,239 seeing an alarming rise in the number of fake job offer scams 1202 01:09:03,239 --> 01:09:06,119 from newly released reports, keener says scammers are able to 1203 01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:09,899 use generative AI to make these fake job offers look very real. 1204 01:09:09,959 --> 01:09:10,139 With 1205 01:09:10,139 --> 01:09:13,019 generative AI, it makes it very, very simple. All 1206 01:09:13,019 --> 01:09:15,839 you have to do is put in the prompt, I need a job wreck that 1207 01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:19,379 says, you know, I'd be this type of experience, this type of 1208 01:09:19,379 --> 01:09:19,679 person, 1209 01:09:19,679 --> 01:09:20,839 Douche: and make it sound friendly. 1210 01:09:20,899 --> 01:09:23,419 Unknown: Another reason for the increase continuing rounds of 1211 01:09:23,419 --> 01:09:26,479 layoffs, those recently laid off, keener says are most 1212 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,359 vulnerable. Keener says these fake recruiters often say you 1213 01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:31,879 have to invest some money up front in their equipment to 1214 01:09:31,879 --> 01:09:34,699 start the job. Or if they're not after your money, they're after 1215 01:09:34,699 --> 01:09:36,079 your personal information, 1216 01:09:36,139 --> 01:09:38,959 your address, your bank account, your driver's license number, 1217 01:09:38,959 --> 01:09:41,559 social all these things that give them the ability to 1218 01:09:41,559 --> 01:09:43,539 generate or to sell your data. 1219 01:09:43,659 --> 01:09:47,019 So how can you protect yourself from these Well, keener says if 1220 01:09:47,019 --> 01:09:50,499 an offer is offering way more money than what you're expecting 1221 01:09:50,499 --> 01:09:53,799 for the type of role and position it lists, it's likely a 1222 01:09:53,799 --> 01:09:56,679 scam. And he also says even if you get an offer through 1223 01:09:56,739 --> 01:09:59,919 LinkedIn, make sure you thoroughly research the company. 1224 01:09:59,999 --> 01:10:01,679 That they claim to represent. 1225 01:10:01,860 --> 01:10:04,260 Adam Curry: I get at least three of these a day now. 1226 01:10:05,340 --> 01:10:09,420 John C Dvorak: But then, let's stop right at the at the out, at 1227 01:10:09,420 --> 01:10:13,860 the at the get go. Anybody can write these things, you know, 1228 01:10:13,860 --> 01:10:17,220 why do you need AI to write a phony job listening? It just 1229 01:10:17,220 --> 01:10:20,040 makes no sense to me. It just it's not like the job listing 1230 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,900 goes on for pages and pages, an entire book full of job. No, no, 1231 01:10:23,900 --> 01:10:25,700 you know, descriptions. Hold 1232 01:10:25,699 --> 01:10:29,239 Adam Curry: on, because most scammers can't even speak 1233 01:10:29,239 --> 01:10:33,079 English. That's how you identify them. If you get the email, I 1234 01:10:33,079 --> 01:10:38,059 have your informations, okay, right? Spam, you know. So it is 1235 01:10:38,059 --> 01:10:42,099 at least doing one thing, and it is here. So I'm just looking at 1236 01:10:42,099 --> 01:10:46,599 my text messages, 818-519-2891, are you looking for a part time 1237 01:10:46,599 --> 01:10:52,719 job? Hi. My name is Lucy. I would like to recommend a job to 1238 01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:55,599 you. You only need to conduct some basic online application 1239 01:10:55,599 --> 01:10:59,019 testing for the company online. You can work anytime and 1240 01:10:59,019 --> 01:11:01,919 anywhere. You only need 30 to 60 minutes of free time every day 1241 01:11:01,919 --> 01:11:05,279 to be competent. Basically, oh, here's where they fall apart. 1242 01:11:05,279 --> 01:11:10,619 Basically, basic salary is $800 for four days, so you know. And 1243 01:11:10,619 --> 01:11:14,099 what they do, of course, is, you know, then you have to, you know 1244 01:11:14,099 --> 01:11:16,619 what? You have to do this or do that. You got to send me some 1245 01:11:16,619 --> 01:11:18,839 money to qualify for the insurance. And people are 1246 01:11:18,839 --> 01:11:23,479 stupid. So it just expanded the universe. No, you don't need it, 1247 01:11:23,599 --> 01:11:28,099 obviously, but it makes it easier for every Tom Dick and 1248 01:11:28,099 --> 01:11:29,359 Harry and 1249 01:11:30,619 --> 01:11:33,379 John C Dvorak: the morons. I can't put two sentences 1250 01:11:33,380 --> 01:11:38,540 Adam Curry: together, yes, in Nigeria, maybe, yes. Nigeria, 1251 01:11:38,540 --> 01:11:43,180 yeah. So or Bombay. It just expands the scam universe. And, 1252 01:11:43,180 --> 01:11:45,280 you know, there's lots of people who are desperate, and they're 1253 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:46,000 not thinking, right? 1254 01:11:46,540 --> 01:11:48,580 John C Dvorak: And the thing is, by the way, I should mention 1255 01:11:48,580 --> 01:11:52,120 they said, Well, if it's too much money for what is expected. 1256 01:11:52,300 --> 01:11:56,080 No, that's not true with disease and the millennials who come. 1257 01:11:56,140 --> 01:11:59,500 We've had clips on this show saying, I'm not taking a job 1258 01:11:59,500 --> 01:12:01,980 unless I make $100,000 a year, no matter what it 1259 01:12:01,979 --> 01:12:05,099 Adam Curry: is, exactly, exactly. And then greed kicks 1260 01:12:05,099 --> 01:12:07,799 in. Oh, but this is exactly what I've been looking for. I'm worth 1261 01:12:07,799 --> 01:12:12,119 it, yeah, so that's that's true, I'm worth it. 1262 01:12:13,979 --> 01:12:16,559 John C Dvorak: So I wonder how much money they're asking for, 1263 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,100 Adam Curry: 500 bucks a pop. I think I've heard different 1264 01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:21,320 things. That's 1265 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,200 John C Dvorak: reasonable. Yeah, that's believable. I can see you 1266 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,080 getting taken for 500 bucks if you're an idiot. Yeah. 1267 01:12:28,220 --> 01:12:30,560 Adam Curry: Meanwhile, while you're just using your regular 1268 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,640 devices and they're on that fabulous social media, for some 1269 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,880 reason this is popping up. I'm not quite sure what the agenda 1270 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,100 is behind it, but this story is everywhere. 1271 01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:43,000 Unknown: Federal investigators call it a vast surveillance of 1272 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,720 anyone using some of the most popular social media and 1273 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,320 streaming companies, including Amazon's, Twitch, Facebook, 1274 01:12:50,380 --> 01:12:54,460 YouTube, Twitter, X snap, Tiktok, Reddit, WhatsApp and 1275 01:12:54,460 --> 01:12:58,840 discord gathering user age, gender and location, even 1276 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:03,120 marital status and income, to target ads and sell the data to 1277 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,440 third parties a 1278 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,299 mass vast profiles and 1279 01:13:06,299 --> 01:13:09,179 just about every American, including Americans that don't 1280 01:13:09,179 --> 01:13:13,379 even use the services. The FTC says companies are too often 1281 01:13:13,499 --> 01:13:17,339 failing to protect personal information, exposing users, 1282 01:13:17,339 --> 01:13:21,079 including children and teens, to a range of threats from identity 1283 01:13:21,079 --> 01:13:25,039 theft to criminal stalking, and Congress needs to create tough 1284 01:13:25,039 --> 01:13:28,579 new privacy laws. What are these companies doing with the data 1285 01:13:28,579 --> 01:13:30,199 they collect on all of us? We 1286 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,140 were quite disturbed by the fact that some of these companies did 1287 01:13:33,140 --> 01:13:36,020 not even know all of the third parties with whom they were 1288 01:13:36,020 --> 01:13:36,980 sharing data 1289 01:13:36,979 --> 01:13:40,099 today, many of the companies refuted or declined to comment 1290 01:13:40,099 --> 01:13:43,719 on the report, though, in the past, meta Facebook CEO Mark 1291 01:13:43,719 --> 01:13:45,939 Zuckerberg has defended his company. 1292 01:13:45,939 --> 01:13:48,519 We give people the ability to connect to the people they care 1293 01:13:48,519 --> 01:13:53,139 about and engage with the topics that they 1294 01:13:53,140 --> 01:13:57,400 care online advertisers care about consumers understand the 1295 01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:01,140 value exchange and welcome the opportunity to have access to 1296 01:14:01,140 --> 01:14:05,820 free or highly subsidized content services, but security 1297 01:14:05,820 --> 01:14:09,660 posts, most of us simply scroll through the long user agreements 1298 01:14:09,780 --> 01:14:11,820 when we sign up EULAs. 1299 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,180 Adam Curry: There it is. It may be a EULA story. I'm not sure 1300 01:14:15,180 --> 01:14:16,980 ABC had a very short version of it, 1301 01:14:16,979 --> 01:14:20,039 Unknown: a new federal report on social media and surveillance of 1302 01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:24,139 users, a new FTC report accusing many popular social media 1303 01:14:24,139 --> 01:14:27,559 companies of, quote, vast surveillance of its users. The 1304 01:14:27,559 --> 01:14:30,499 report naming nine companies, including Facebook, Amazon and 1305 01:14:30,499 --> 01:14:32,779 YouTube, saying they are profiting by giving personal 1306 01:14:32,779 --> 01:14:36,679 data to advertising targeting specific demographics. The 1307 01:14:36,679 --> 01:14:39,319 federal report says users may not be aware of just how much 1308 01:14:39,319 --> 01:14:42,099 data is being collected and shared. Google, which owns 1309 01:14:42,099 --> 01:14:46,059 YouTube, says it has a strict privacy policy. Oh, yeah, yeah, 1310 01:14:46,059 --> 01:14:46,359 sure, 1311 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,180 Adam Curry: privacy policy. So maybe you 1312 01:14:49,180 --> 01:14:54,760 John C Dvorak: know what? I just ironically, the holy grail of 1313 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,600 advertising has always been to target to such an extreme that 1314 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,780 you knew the person. How many you. Know, put their 1315 01:15:00,780 --> 01:15:01,680 fingerprints. I'll 1316 01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,960 Adam Curry: give you the right ad at the right moment about the 1317 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,560 right thing at the right price, right now. Yeah, 1318 01:15:07,860 --> 01:15:10,860 John C Dvorak: that's, that's in a nutshell. And that's always 1319 01:15:10,860 --> 01:15:13,860 been, I remember in the 70s and the 80s, this was the Holy 1320 01:15:13,860 --> 01:15:16,740 Grail, yeah, and that's all they talked about. How we're going to 1321 01:15:16,740 --> 01:15:19,980 do it. It was going to be interactive TV. That was one of 1322 01:15:19,980 --> 01:15:20,720 the mechanism, 1323 01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:23,780 Adam Curry: click on the dress, and it'll come to your door the 1324 01:15:23,780 --> 01:15:24,560 next day 1325 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,460 John C Dvorak: Exactly. Yeah, you remember all this old crap, 1326 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,900 of course. And so they finally achieve it, and oh no, it's the 1327 01:15:32,900 --> 01:15:35,600 end of the world. What we're gonna do privacy? 1328 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:42,460 Adam Curry: Well, I think, yeah, we know that the the younger 1329 01:15:42,460 --> 01:15:46,060 generations, younger than two old guys with hot takes, 1330 01:15:48,279 --> 01:15:49,719 Unknown: that's us 1331 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,100 Adam Curry: that they, you know, they universally have given up. 1332 01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:57,580 Oh, they got all my information anyway. But I think I'm really 1333 01:15:57,580 --> 01:16:01,440 on this entropy kick, because I think back, yeah, because you'll 1334 01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:05,520 see that social media is you can already see it. It's just 1335 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:10,320 devolving. You've got, you know, now you've got aI of things that 1336 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,260 really happened, and then that'll get picked up somewhere 1337 01:16:13,260 --> 01:16:17,520 else and just becomes less and less valuable. And I think you 1338 01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,620 your kids aren't really on social media are they 1339 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,280 John C Dvorak: not as much as me, 1340 01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:30,260 Adam Curry: exactly, exactly, 1341 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,959 John C Dvorak: but I'm only on Twitter, pretty much. I don't I 1342 01:16:32,959 --> 01:16:35,119 don't have a Facebook account. I've been but they 1343 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,280 Adam Curry: don't care that they're texting. They're just 1344 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:38,780 texting with each other. They got 1345 01:16:38,899 --> 01:16:42,099 John C Dvorak: text a lot, yeah. Oh, and they do watch a lot of 1346 01:16:42,099 --> 01:16:47,739 YouTube videos. Yeah, yeah. They do tick tock in some instances, 1347 01:16:47,739 --> 01:16:52,239 but in my circle, it's mostly YouTube. I don't see anyone, you 1348 01:16:52,239 --> 01:16:55,239 know, I probably watch more tick tock than they do 1349 01:16:55,300 --> 01:16:58,420 Adam Curry: well, my my Zoom. I'm looking for material. 1350 01:16:58,420 --> 01:16:59,140 John C Dvorak: I have a reason. 1351 01:16:59,140 --> 01:17:02,940 Adam Curry: Oh, you do you research uh, my Zoomers, aren't 1352 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,340 they? They recognize 1353 01:17:05,340 --> 01:17:06,900 John C Dvorak: I have no Zoomers. I only have 1354 01:17:06,900 --> 01:17:07,440 millennials. 1355 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,599 Adam Curry: Yeah, see, I got Zoomer. I got one millennial and 1356 01:17:09,599 --> 01:17:14,219 two Zoomers. And the Zoomers, they, they keep deleting tick 1357 01:17:14,219 --> 01:17:16,859 tock from their phone, because they because then they wake up 1358 01:17:16,859 --> 01:17:19,259 at four, or they awake at four in the morning. Like, what did I 1359 01:17:19,259 --> 01:17:22,819 just do? So that they are realizing that they get sucked 1360 01:17:22,819 --> 01:17:28,399 into the whole but, yeah, a lot of YouTube still, but really for 1361 01:17:28,399 --> 01:17:31,399 informational purposes. You know, how do I cook this? How do 1362 01:17:31,399 --> 01:17:33,559 I put this together? And, you know, 1363 01:17:33,620 --> 01:17:36,020 John C Dvorak: just information cooking advice from YouTube 1364 01:17:36,020 --> 01:17:36,860 people. No, 1365 01:17:37,219 --> 01:17:41,259 Adam Curry: I agree. That's not a good idea, but it does create, 1366 01:17:41,259 --> 01:17:47,079 if we look at the Zoomers there, you know, and the I need 1367 01:17:47,079 --> 01:17:53,499 $100,000 job, and just the general attitude towards work, I 1368 01:17:53,499 --> 01:17:56,259 think this is real. I don't know if you saw this. I think it's 1369 01:17:56,259 --> 01:18:04,619 real. It's different. HR, ladies who were videoing themselves 1370 01:18:04,799 --> 01:18:09,179 while people called in with excuses while they were not 1371 01:18:09,179 --> 01:18:13,559 coming to work. This is a classic. It's it appears real to 1372 01:18:13,559 --> 01:18:16,439 me. I'm I'm obviously not sure, but I haven't 1373 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,719 John C Dvorak: I have no evidence to the contrary at this 1374 01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:19,199 point. 1375 01:18:19,259 --> 01:18:20,339 Unknown: Hi, Lindsay is really 1376 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,960 good. Quick. I'm not coming in today. I'm having a digital 1377 01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:27,560 detox day 1378 01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:33,439 next week, we are quite busy. Well, my friend offered me a 1379 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:38,239 trip to Florida. Okay, that's cool, but you are scheduled all 1380 01:18:38,239 --> 01:18:38,599 week. 1381 01:18:39,979 --> 01:18:41,979 Once in a lifetime, change we're gonna see you. 1382 01:18:42,099 --> 01:18:46,479 NASCAR, hey, sage, what's up? The elevator is broken at the 1383 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:47,139 office. 1384 01:18:47,500 --> 01:18:51,100 Yeah, okay. Do you are you carrying something? 1385 01:18:51,820 --> 01:18:53,620 No. Hey, are you? 1386 01:18:53,739 --> 01:18:54,459 Are you hurt? 1387 01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:59,079 No, okay, well, we're just on the second floor. Sage, it's 1388 01:18:59,079 --> 01:19:01,319 like 18 steps. Hey, Michaela, 1389 01:19:01,319 --> 01:19:02,339 what's up? This is Michael's 1390 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,180 boyfriend. What's 1391 01:19:06,180 --> 01:19:13,680 up is everything? Okay? What's up? What's going on? 1392 01:19:14,460 --> 01:19:15,120 It's my birthday. 1393 01:19:16,619 --> 01:19:20,239 It's your birthday. Is Michaela there? Can I talk to her, 1394 01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:20,719 please? Yeah, 1395 01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,440 she said, No. How's it going? Not good at all. 1396 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:28,400 Oh, what's wrong, girl, you 1397 01:19:28,399 --> 01:19:29,059 sound upset. 1398 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:33,560 I went into the Starbucks drive show, and I was already a little 1399 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:37,280 bit in a rush, and I just wanted to get my caramel ice, white 1400 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:41,300 mocha and vanilla sweet cream, corn pump and Latin toast milk, 1401 01:19:41,300 --> 01:19:44,500 and they messed my order up, so I'm just, I'm not coming 1402 01:19:45,939 --> 01:19:47,379 Adam Curry: in sounded real to me, 1403 01:19:48,699 --> 01:19:50,019 Unknown: and it's believable. 1404 01:19:50,860 --> 01:19:52,540 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it is believable, but that's what 1405 01:19:52,540 --> 01:19:56,800 makes it sound real. Yeah, it may not be true, but it's good 1406 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:57,400 stuff. 1407 01:19:57,699 --> 01:20:01,379 Adam Curry: It's good It's great stuff. I. Fantastic, 1408 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,940 John C Dvorak: but it's kind of this group is notorious for not 1409 01:20:05,940 --> 01:20:12,540 wanting to go to work. Yeah, yes. And I, you know, it's like 1410 01:20:12,540 --> 01:20:15,900 they were raised that way. They didn't have jobs when they were 1411 01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:19,980 kids. I mean, I was working when I was in grammar school. I had a 1412 01:20:19,980 --> 01:20:22,280 paper route. I was doing all these different things, 1413 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:26,120 constantly finding some way to, yeah, something, paper route. 1414 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,460 And then I worked all through high school, all the summers. I 1415 01:20:28,460 --> 01:20:31,100 always worked. I worked at the college. I worked my way through 1416 01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:34,220 college, and everything in between. I was working. I worked 1417 01:20:34,220 --> 01:20:37,820 sometimes during the college year, I'd take a job full time, 1418 01:20:38,060 --> 01:20:39,680 yeah, and and 1419 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,040 Adam Curry: all that hard work paid off. You're a podcast, 1420 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,080 yeah, I'm a podcast. Congratulations, 1421 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,120 congratulations. 1422 01:20:47,199 --> 01:20:51,519 John C Dvorak: But bikes, but I keep busy, and the they don't 1423 01:20:51,519 --> 01:20:52,359 keep busy. 1424 01:20:52,839 --> 01:20:54,579 Unknown: No, no, 1425 01:20:56,319 --> 01:20:57,579 John C Dvorak: so I'm not sure. 1426 01:20:57,699 --> 01:20:59,139 Adam Curry: I just have a feeling they 1427 01:20:59,140 --> 01:21:01,080 John C Dvorak: were raised, that they're just raised, not you 1428 01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:06,000 know, they're raised, uh, the poorly. They're raised poorly, 1429 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:11,400 Adam Curry: the lost generation. It's all over the lost 1430 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:12,180 generation. 1431 01:21:14,579 --> 01:21:16,799 John C Dvorak: Anyway, you never know. They might be leap 1432 01:21:16,799 --> 01:21:20,899 bloomers. Yeah, possible. Next thing you know, they're working 1433 01:21:20,899 --> 01:21:24,019 their asses off. You, you know, it's enjoyable. Something to do, 1434 01:21:24,079 --> 01:21:26,419 you know, what else would you do? Because I was talking to 1435 01:21:26,419 --> 01:21:30,919 somebody, I famous guy, too. Oh, it's talking about, I'm retire. 1436 01:21:30,919 --> 01:21:33,559 Gonna retire. Retire, retire. Keep talking about it. And it's 1437 01:21:33,559 --> 01:21:37,999 like, why? What are you gonna do? Yeah, putter in the garden. 1438 01:21:38,059 --> 01:21:43,059 I mean, what is there to do? Oh, I want to go traveling. Yeah, 1439 01:21:43,059 --> 01:21:45,519 well, you couldn't be here. Gonna travel as an old man, I 1440 01:21:45,519 --> 01:21:49,839 agree this so good if you want to travel when you're young. 1441 01:21:49,899 --> 01:21:50,799 It's hot here 1442 01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:56,260 Adam Curry: at the Parthenon, the Coliseum, was great, but 1443 01:21:56,260 --> 01:22:01,420 it's so hot and we're cold and the food hot burn. 1444 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,460 John C Dvorak: I too many onions. What's wrong with this 1445 01:22:05,460 --> 01:22:11,700 food? My one of my friends that used to be a high school and on 1446 01:22:11,820 --> 01:22:15,060 to this day, I still know him. His dad was one of these guys 1447 01:22:15,060 --> 01:22:18,540 who retired, and he was like this old fogey, and so he would 1448 01:22:18,780 --> 01:22:22,760 he my favorite line I still remember, he says he went to 1449 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,420 Europe and he brought his own coffee and his own coffee maker, 1450 01:22:26,420 --> 01:22:29,420 because, quote, unquote, they don't know how to make coffee in 1451 01:22:29,420 --> 01:22:31,220 Europe, yeah, 1452 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,580 Adam Curry: yeah. They certainly don't. Probably better than 1453 01:22:34,580 --> 01:22:40,360 America, but okay, yeah, doesn't really matter, because a lot of 1454 01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,540 these people who are under 50, let's put it that way, they're 1455 01:22:43,540 --> 01:22:44,500 not going to make it. They 1456 01:22:44,500 --> 01:22:46,600 Unknown: are back now with a look at the biggest findings 1457 01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,720 from a brand new report on cancer in the US, the American 1458 01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,960 Association for Cancer Research, found that rates of some cancers 1459 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,020 have been increasing among adults, specifically under 50, 1460 01:22:56,260 --> 01:22:59,320 and alcohol use may be one factor driving the trash. 1461 01:23:00,399 --> 01:23:04,139 Alcohol is just one piece of the full picture, given that 40% of 1462 01:23:04,139 --> 01:23:07,559 all cancers are associated with what are known as modifiable 1463 01:23:07,559 --> 01:23:07,919 risk 1464 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:08,700 factors. News 1465 01:23:08,700 --> 01:23:11,700 Medical contributor, Doctor van Gupta joins us with more. Doctor 1466 01:23:11,700 --> 01:23:14,880 Gupta, good morning. Certainly concerning. You hear some of 1467 01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,360 those numbers, the Sanjay vein Gupta ranges, and then you think 1468 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,780 about alcohol. Let's start with the rise in some of these 1469 01:23:20,780 --> 01:23:23,720 cancers in young people, and this possible link in 1470 01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,820 particular, what do people need to know? Well, 1471 01:23:25,820 --> 01:23:29,000 what appears is that alcohol is an independent risk factor for 1472 01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:33,020 all forms of gastrointestinal cancers, so esophagus all the 1473 01:23:33,020 --> 01:23:33,140 way 1474 01:23:33,140 --> 01:23:36,680 Adam Curry: down this. This sounds like a cover up to me, 1475 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,000 Unknown: and this is a difference 1476 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,420 John C Dvorak: total cut. You know this, the medical 1477 01:23:40,420 --> 01:23:44,500 profession has used alcohol as an excuse for everything bad. 1478 01:23:44,620 --> 01:23:49,540 Don't drink. Don't drink. Stop. Don't have any alcohol ever and 1479 01:23:49,900 --> 01:23:53,440 you got cancers because your alcohol is, you know, wondering, 1480 01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:57,940 no, it's too many. It's like, why are they such teetotalers 1481 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,560 when it's if you go to Europe or France, for example, where they 1482 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,640 lived longer than we do the kids and everything but cream and 1483 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,320 butter and booze, and 1484 01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,260 Adam Curry: they're thin and groovy and they're thin, yeah? 1485 01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:14,220 But they do need deodorant for their pits in private places. 1486 01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:14,520 No, 1487 01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,380 John C Dvorak: they need it here more than Well, 1488 01:24:16,500 --> 01:24:19,140 Unknown: yeah, maybe in France. And this is a difference in how 1489 01:24:19,140 --> 01:24:21,440 we've been talking about alcohol for the last 30 years in 1490 01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:24,740 medicine, where there's been this notion that low doses of, 1491 01:24:24,740 --> 01:24:27,620 say, red wine, one or two glasses, moderate drinking, 1492 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,380 could actually be beneficial to the heart. Oh 1493 01:24:30,740 --> 01:24:32,720 Adam Curry: yes, that's why I drink one or two glasses a 1494 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,940 night, a day in the morning, and 1495 01:24:34,940 --> 01:24:38,780 Unknown: now these no amount that's safe, and that actually 1496 01:24:38,780 --> 01:24:42,040 we're seeing that this might be pretending this incidence, this 1497 01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,520 increased incidence of gastrointestinal cancers? No, 1498 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,820 Adam Curry: no amount is safe now, no. 1499 01:24:49,239 --> 01:24:51,159 John C Dvorak: How does that explain these, these 1500 01:24:51,579 --> 01:24:56,379 centenarians, these old ladies and old men that are 110 saying, 1501 01:24:56,379 --> 01:25:00,119 I have a bottle of booze every day and bacon and. It 1502 01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,540 Adam Curry: they smoke a cigar after breakfast. Yes, this 1503 01:25:03,540 --> 01:25:03,960 report 1504 01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,960 Unknown: estimates that by the end of 2024 more than 2 million 1505 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,780 new cases of cancer be diagnosed in the US this year. That just 1506 01:25:09,780 --> 01:25:12,900 feels like a staggering number, additional alcohol. There are 1507 01:25:12,900 --> 01:25:15,600 other changes people can do to lower their risks. Talk about 1508 01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:16,080 what some of 1509 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,140 those are absolutely so you know, moderation. Get the key 1510 01:25:19,140 --> 01:25:21,980 here. So really there's a dose response. The more you drink, 1511 01:25:21,980 --> 01:25:25,160 the greater the risk. But it's important to live a healthy 1512 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,860 lifestyle. So all the things Joe that we always talk about, 1513 01:25:27,980 --> 01:25:31,040 healthy weight, alcohol, actually increases your risk of 1514 01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,980 being overweight, and so there's a direct correlation. But 1515 01:25:33,980 --> 01:25:37,280 healthy weight, exercise, healthy eating, those all 1516 01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,220 mitigate the risk that we're seeing this increased rise of 1517 01:25:40,220 --> 01:25:42,400 cancer in young people. I should also note, we're seeing 1518 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,100 increased incidence of cancer, so that's being diagnosed more 1519 01:25:45,100 --> 01:25:47,620 in younger people, but they're actually living longer because 1520 01:25:47,620 --> 01:25:50,020 we have better treatment. So it's an ironic twist. 1521 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,780 Adam Curry: You know, this is another downside to the AI 1522 01:25:52,780 --> 01:25:57,160 revolution. They're going to pre, predetermine you have pre, 1523 01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:03,180 pre cancer at every every twist, every chance they get, it'd be 1524 01:26:03,180 --> 01:26:06,180 like, Oh, because, you know, we already had the pre diabetic. 1525 01:26:06,180 --> 01:26:09,780 You know, you're pre dead. All this pre, pre, pre dead, yep, 1526 01:26:10,260 --> 01:26:15,360 however, now, of course, hot take. You know, sugar is 1527 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,580 definitely not good for you. There is a lot of sugar and 1528 01:26:17,580 --> 01:26:22,100 alcohol, and if you're drinking there's not in I was, let me 1529 01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:25,220 finish the sentence. Have you seen some of the alcoholic 1530 01:26:25,220 --> 01:26:28,940 beverages that young people are drinking? Literally, sugar 1531 01:26:28,940 --> 01:26:29,300 without 1532 01:26:29,299 --> 01:26:31,519 John C Dvorak: the alcohol. No. Okay, 1533 01:26:32,899 --> 01:26:37,399 Adam Curry: they are combining sugar with alcohol. Is there no 1534 01:26:37,399 --> 01:26:39,199 sugar in wine? Does 1535 01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,920 John C Dvorak: it not really? It's minuscule. Then sweet 1536 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,940 wines, yes, there's a residual sugar, yes. And saw turns, for 1537 01:26:45,940 --> 01:26:50,260 example, one of the greatest Rhodesia Yes, that's how I got 1538 01:26:50,260 --> 01:26:55,000 some sugar. It's natural. That was dry wine. The reason is to 1539 01:26:55,060 --> 01:26:58,240 use the term dry. This means there's no sugar, or so much as 1540 01:26:58,480 --> 01:26:59,380 minuscule. 1541 01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:05,400 Adam Curry: Well, when Trump gets elected and we get RFK Jr 1542 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,880 as an extra bonus, he's putting a stop to a couple of things. 1543 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,780 Red Alert from day one, and on day one, we're going to declare 1544 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,240 an emergency, like we did in covid, but 1545 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,780 Unknown: it's going to be a chronic disease emergency, and 1546 01:27:23,780 --> 01:27:27,200 we're going to get, we're going to get the fluoride out of the 1547 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:31,880 water, we're going to get the chemicals out of the food. We're 1548 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:36,080 going to get the chemtrails out. The chemicals out of the 1549 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:42,160 chemtrails, and we're, there's 1000 ingredients in Europe, and 1550 01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,980 we're going to get rid of all those chemicals, and I know how 1551 01:27:44,980 --> 01:27:45,520 to do it. 1552 01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,700 Adam Curry: He's not actually going to get rid of chemtrails 1553 01:27:51,700 --> 01:27:53,920 just, he's just going to take the chemicals out of the 1554 01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:59,800 chemtrails. They'll just be trails. Well, they're not vapor 1555 01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:00,340 trails. 1556 01:28:00,340 --> 01:28:04,020 John C Dvorak: But no, there's no such thing. Yeah, okay, 1557 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:09,360 Adam Curry: yesterday in Texas, oh, man, it was bad. We had 1558 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:14,220 regular, beautiful cotton blobs everywhere. It was a beautiful 1559 01:28:14,220 --> 01:28:18,000 day, you know, little enough clouds so that it didn't heat up 1560 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,040 too much, and throughout all these clouds at low altitude, 1561 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:27,020 not Vapor Trail altitude, just these big fat chemtrails that 1562 01:28:27,020 --> 01:28:31,820 were spreading out slowly over time, creating this whole cloud 1563 01:28:31,820 --> 01:28:37,100 cover of junk. It's so everyone sees it now. It's so obvious. 1564 01:28:37,460 --> 01:28:41,620 RFK, chem he said, chemtrails. He's 1565 01:28:41,620 --> 01:28:43,120 John C Dvorak: nuts. That guy. You 1566 01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:44,920 Adam Curry: know that. You know they're really taking him down 1567 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,380 now you've been following the, oh, yeah, 1568 01:28:47,380 --> 01:28:51,040 John C Dvorak: they're finding his old affairs and some sex did 1569 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:51,880 with nuts. 1570 01:28:51,940 --> 01:28:53,800 Adam Curry: Well, see you, you took the bait. 1571 01:28:55,119 --> 01:28:57,279 John C Dvorak: He didn't. Well, I didn't take the bait because I 1572 01:28:57,279 --> 01:29:00,099 didn't, there's no clips. I didn't bring it up. I what bait 1573 01:29:00,099 --> 01:29:00,359 did I 1574 01:29:00,359 --> 01:29:03,239 Adam Curry: take the sex? Did? He didn't sex with anybody. 1575 01:29:04,079 --> 01:29:10,019 Sexed. He did. He wasn't sexting. No, this. This is 1576 01:29:10,019 --> 01:29:16,079 Olivia newsy, who works for she worked for Vanity Fair. Think 1577 01:29:16,079 --> 01:29:20,779 so, and so she did an interview. Was more like a hit piece, 1578 01:29:20,779 --> 01:29:25,579 actually on RFK. But then, and if you read about this woman, 1579 01:29:25,759 --> 01:29:29,899 she is relentless. She was sending naked pictures and all 1580 01:29:29,899 --> 01:29:33,499 kinds of stuff that he would block. He would block her. And 1581 01:29:34,459 --> 01:29:39,199 with the whole point being to basically make it look like he 1582 01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:46,119 had some kind of affair with her, but this is a hit job. From 1583 01:29:46,119 --> 01:29:47,559 everything I've been able to see, 1584 01:29:47,980 --> 01:29:51,160 John C Dvorak: it would make nothing but sense to me, and we 1585 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,920 got to do something about this guy. Is a problem, yes, 1586 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,500 Adam Curry: and that's what's happening. They are making it 1587 01:29:56,500 --> 01:29:59,140 look like he's a sleaze. And that's what you do, is like, oh, 1588 01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,760 let's uh. Let's create some problems with his marriage. 1589 01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:07,200 That's always fun. These people, these people. It's always a good 1590 01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:11,280 one. The relationship. The relationship turned personal. So 1591 01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:16,740 everyone, of course, immediately thinks, oh, probably Sexton horn 1592 01:30:16,740 --> 01:30:22,880 dog. Yeah, yeah, they're doing that. It's entertaining. That's 1593 01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:23,480 for sure. 1594 01:30:24,319 --> 01:30:26,839 John C Dvorak: Well, if you know, trying to create a problem 1595 01:30:26,839 --> 01:30:29,959 with this marriage, when his wife might be, quote, unquote, 1596 01:30:29,959 --> 01:30:32,899 his handler, going nowhere, 1597 01:30:33,859 --> 01:30:37,159 Adam Curry: his handler. I'm still not she's I don't know. 1598 01:30:37,159 --> 01:30:40,539 I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure anymore. I don't know what he 1599 01:30:40,539 --> 01:30:42,459 is. I like him, though. 1600 01:30:43,060 --> 01:30:44,920 John C Dvorak: I like, yeah, he's, he's good stuff. 1601 01:30:44,980 --> 01:30:47,020 Adam Curry: I mean, fluoride out of the water. I mean, this is, 1602 01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,600 that's by a mini single handle. 1603 01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:51,400 John C Dvorak: He got the fluoride out of the water up in 1604 01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:52,240 Port Angeles. 1605 01:30:53,380 --> 01:30:56,800 Adam Curry: Did they label her a kook and a conspiracy theorist? 1606 01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:57,100 No, she 1607 01:30:57,100 --> 01:30:59,500 John C Dvorak: did a great job. The way she did. It was just 1608 01:30:59,500 --> 01:31:03,660 masterful. And so darn was not discussable, but they had, you 1609 01:31:03,660 --> 01:31:07,800 know, the floor whole fluoride thing is, is chemical wastes, 1610 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,920 yeah, from all you got, somehow got to get rid of, and the 1611 01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,220 easiest way to do it is to dump it in water supplies and 1612 01:31:14,220 --> 01:31:17,640 convince people that it is good for your teeth. I told you, man, 1613 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,160 it's, it's, it's masterful, 1614 01:31:20,339 --> 01:31:24,559 Adam Curry: you know, I had, we had dinner with Maverick, my 1615 01:31:24,559 --> 01:31:28,219 periodontist. This is months ago, and this is back when I 1616 01:31:28,219 --> 01:31:30,379 was, you know, think, by the way, it turns out I can't even 1617 01:31:30,379 --> 01:31:32,299 run for mayor if I wanted to, because we live in 1618 01:31:32,299 --> 01:31:36,559 unincorporated Fredericksburg, I can't even run. Can we run for 1619 01:31:36,559 --> 01:31:40,239 city council? Are you sure? Yeah, yeah, unless they change 1620 01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:43,959 that. And he was like, Oh, what do you think about fluoride in 1621 01:31:43,959 --> 01:31:47,259 the water? I'm like, horrible. Doesn't belong. He's like, 1622 01:31:47,319 --> 01:31:50,859 You're wrong. This really helps with dental he's a dentist guy. 1623 01:31:50,859 --> 01:31:54,099 Do you really? It really helps with dental health. This is, you 1624 01:31:54,099 --> 01:31:58,899 know, this is, this has been such a revolution for oral 1625 01:31:58,899 --> 01:32:04,379 health. I said, bro and and I tried to bro, you said bro at 1626 01:32:04,379 --> 01:32:08,639 the dinner table. I said, bro, no, this is not, this is not 1627 01:32:08,639 --> 01:32:13,199 just regular fluoride. This is, uh, industrial waste from Alcoa. 1628 01:32:13,919 --> 01:32:17,579 You know the just, it's, it's, it's sludge waste. You don't 1629 01:32:17,579 --> 01:32:21,499 want that. And if I want fluoride, I'll be happy to take 1630 01:32:21,499 --> 01:32:26,419 it from my dental professional, not from the government, you 1631 01:32:26,419 --> 01:32:30,859 know, put into knowledge with the what uncle Don told me, and 1632 01:32:30,859 --> 01:32:35,599 what was written in a legacy of ashes, where the CIA would put 1633 01:32:35,599 --> 01:32:39,259 floor, would fluoridate enemy camps water so that night they 1634 01:32:39,259 --> 01:32:41,799 could go in and rouse them, because they were all 1635 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,380 John C Dvorak: docile, because they were getting dumbed down. 1636 01:32:44,380 --> 01:32:45,280 You were docile? 1637 01:32:45,279 --> 01:32:46,539 Unknown: Yeah, yeah. 1638 01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:52,420 Adam Curry: Speaking of docile, do I still have to take off my 1639 01:32:52,420 --> 01:32:57,580 shoes now at at TSA, now that we clearly know that this is 1640 01:32:57,580 --> 01:33:00,240 John C Dvorak: one taking off my shoes forever. Well, I 1641 01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,040 Adam Curry: haven't been, you haven't been on airplanes. 1642 01:33:03,540 --> 01:33:05,760 John C Dvorak: But even before then, they stopped doing that. 1643 01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:10,740 No, sir, no, sir, that it's not an officer 1644 01:33:10,739 --> 01:33:13,679 Adam Curry: that's not well, because you're wrong. There's 1645 01:33:13,739 --> 01:33:16,559 and it's different per airport, but there's lots of airports, so 1646 01:33:16,559 --> 01:33:20,239 they still make you take your shoes off, even if you're going 1647 01:33:20,239 --> 01:33:24,979 through the the body scanner. But, I mean, it's, it's 1648 01:33:24,979 --> 01:33:30,979 irrelevant now, because clearly we can put p, e, t, n and into 1649 01:33:30,979 --> 01:33:34,939 any device and explode it anywhere we want. So it's all 1650 01:33:34,939 --> 01:33:38,239 theater. They can't. They can. They're not detecting this 1651 01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:40,779 John C Dvorak: stuff. No, you can't. No, 1652 01:33:41,139 --> 01:33:45,459 Adam Curry: so should we even go through this song and dance 1653 01:33:45,459 --> 01:33:51,819 anymore? Makes no sense. It's for the dummies, the dummies who 1654 01:33:51,819 --> 01:33:54,159 can't afford to play fried private. Is that what you're 1655 01:33:54,159 --> 01:33:55,239 saying? No, 1656 01:33:55,239 --> 01:33:57,459 John C Dvorak: it's for the dummies who don't you know, who 1657 01:33:57,459 --> 01:34:00,039 think that this is all like, Oh, they're going to catch me. I 1658 01:34:00,039 --> 01:34:01,619 better not do it or, 1659 01:34:01,620 --> 01:34:04,080 Adam Curry: or are we going back to the days and I remember 1660 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:08,040 these, ah, you got to take your laptop out, turn it on so we can 1661 01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:09,000 see that it's working. 1662 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:12,060 John C Dvorak: Oh, they Yeah, they remember that, yeah. That 1663 01:34:12,060 --> 01:34:13,440 really slowed down production. 1664 01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,479 Adam Curry: I bet people don't remember that. It was a long 1665 01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:16,439 time ago you had, they 1666 01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,739 John C Dvorak: had to turn the laptop on, yeah, to prove that 1667 01:34:19,740 --> 01:34:22,220 Adam Curry: it worked. Now you turn it on, it blows up in your 1668 01:34:22,220 --> 01:34:26,300 face, alright? TSA guy, you sure you want me to turn it on? You 1669 01:34:26,300 --> 01:34:27,740 sure you want to see it 1670 01:34:28,159 --> 01:34:30,439 John C Dvorak: well? Talking about you want to talk airplane 1671 01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:35,779 stories. I got a story. All right. This is a classic mouse 1672 01:34:35,779 --> 01:34:36,559 on board, 1673 01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:38,660 Adam Curry: mouse on board 1674 01:34:38,659 --> 01:34:41,919 Unknown: Scandinavian Airlines. SAS has said one of its flights 1675 01:34:41,919 --> 01:34:45,579 had to make an emergency landing after a mouse scurried out of a 1676 01:34:45,579 --> 01:34:48,819 passenger's in flight meal. On Wednesday, the plane was 1677 01:34:48,819 --> 01:34:52,719 traveling from Norway's capital Oslo to the Spanish city Malaga, 1678 01:34:52,719 --> 01:34:55,419 and was forced to make an emergency landing in Copenhagen, 1679 01:34:55,419 --> 01:34:59,019 Denmark. The diversion was in line with company procedures as 1680 01:34:59,019 --> 01:35:02,939 the furry stole. Posed a safety risk. Airline spokesperson 1681 01:35:02,999 --> 01:35:07,379 oistin SCHMIDT told the AFP news agency passengers on the flight 1682 01:35:07,379 --> 01:35:10,919 were later flown to Malaga on a different aircraft. Airlines 1683 01:35:10,919 --> 01:35:13,739 usually have strict restrictions involving rodents on board 1684 01:35:13,739 --> 01:35:16,379 planes in order to prevent electrical wiring being chewed 1685 01:35:16,379 --> 01:35:20,039 through. Believe it or not, a lady next to me here at SAS 1686 01:35:20,039 --> 01:35:23,119 opened the food and out jumped a mouse. Now we have turned around 1687 01:35:23,119 --> 01:35:26,539 and landed at CPH Copenhagen airport for flight changes. One 1688 01:35:26,539 --> 01:35:30,799 passenger, jarlo Boris stodd, wrote on Facebook. He posted the 1689 01:35:30,799 --> 01:35:33,679 comment alongside laughing emojis and a photo of him 1690 01:35:33,679 --> 01:35:37,099 smiling while sat next to two women. This is something that 1691 01:35:37,099 --> 01:35:40,419 happens extremely rarely. Mr. Schmidt said, we have 1692 01:35:40,419 --> 01:35:43,599 established procedures for such situations, which also include a 1693 01:35:43,599 --> 01:35:46,599 review with our suppliers to ensure this does not happen 1694 01:35:46,599 --> 01:35:50,019 again. It is the second rodent related travel incident in a 1695 01:35:50,019 --> 01:35:51,459 week. Well, 1696 01:35:51,459 --> 01:35:56,919 Adam Curry: I'm very disappointed in you. Okay, you 1697 01:35:56,919 --> 01:35:59,859 brought an AI generated story to the 1698 01:35:59,859 --> 01:36:02,039 John C Dvorak: show. Yeah, it was that sounds like a fake 1699 01:36:02,039 --> 01:36:03,719 voice, but the story is valid. 1700 01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:07,200 Adam Curry: But just tell us the story. Don't bring in some dude 1701 01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:11,940 to read it. Clips. Clips are us. That's not this. You're creating 1702 01:36:11,940 --> 01:36:13,920 entropy in our very own show. 1703 01:36:16,619 --> 01:36:19,379 John C Dvorak: According to you, that's unavoidable. So what? So 1704 01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:23,059 just contributing to it and speeding up the process, as it 1705 01:36:23,059 --> 01:36:23,479 were. 1706 01:36:23,539 --> 01:36:25,279 Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your 1707 01:36:25,279 --> 01:36:27,919 courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in 1708 01:36:27,919 --> 01:36:30,739 the classic mouse clip, say hello to my friend on the other 1709 01:36:30,739 --> 01:36:32,839 end, the one and only. Mr. Johnson in the morning, 1710 01:36:38,540 --> 01:36:40,100 John C Dvorak: to you. Mr. Carlson, in the morning, I 1711 01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:42,520 should see boosted the graphic near seven to dancing nice out 1712 01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:43,180 there, all right, 1713 01:36:43,179 --> 01:36:50,859 Adam Curry: in the morning in the troll room. Hello. Cotton 1714 01:36:50,859 --> 01:36:53,739 Gin has written a script now. It's great. Cotton gin, You the 1715 01:36:53,739 --> 01:36:58,059 man. 2324 peak trollage. 1716 01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:00,600 Unknown: That's not bad. 1717 01:37:02,579 --> 01:37:04,919 John C Dvorak: It's actually down 100 for Sunday. No, 1718 01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,279 Adam Curry: really, yeah, we 1719 01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:09,780 John C Dvorak: had more on Thursday. We had Thursday, we 1720 01:37:09,780 --> 01:37:10,260 had 2400 1721 01:37:11,279 --> 01:37:14,939 Adam Curry: did we? Well, that was a special day because we had 1722 01:37:14,939 --> 01:37:16,199 exploding devices. 1723 01:37:17,340 --> 01:37:19,740 John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, we had exploding devices. And no 1724 01:37:19,740 --> 01:37:21,320 donations now, 1725 01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:28,100 Adam Curry: all we got is Oprah, Kamala, Chris Rock House, in the 1726 01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:33,140 house, into his house. Where is our sign? Your Hall, by the way, 1727 01:37:33,140 --> 01:37:39,020 where my dog pound at, oh, man, good times. The trolls are in 1728 01:37:39,020 --> 01:37:42,820 the troll room, which you can find@trollroom.io actually, I 1729 01:37:42,820 --> 01:37:49,780 got a note from one of our visually impaired producers. The 1730 01:37:49,780 --> 01:37:53,980 way she put it, I'm half blind, and she has real problem with 1731 01:37:53,980 --> 01:37:58,540 trollroom.io and so I said, Well, how about you try? Gave 1732 01:37:58,900 --> 01:38:01,560 her a couple of suggestions other ways to do it. But ever 1733 01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:05,640 since it changed, which just shows how racist our producers 1734 01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:09,420 are, they changed trolling.io made it look all nice. Now the 1735 01:38:09,420 --> 01:38:13,620 blind people can't use it. This is very big problem. So I said, 1736 01:38:13,620 --> 01:38:17,700 You can't win. You can never win, for sure. But I think, I 1737 01:38:17,700 --> 01:38:20,040 think I helped her out with a way to do it. Haven't heard back 1738 01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:23,060 from her yet, but I think I gave her some good advice. They're 1739 01:38:23,060 --> 01:38:25,640 listening. They're listening live. We have been doing the 1740 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:30,260 show live for when did we start doing live? 15 years ago? Maybe 1741 01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:34,400 we started going live after about the first year. Oh, okay, 1742 01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:39,560 so almost 16 years. We'll be 17 in October, coming up on episode 1743 01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:45,520 1700 which we'll talk about in a moment, but I think we're one of 1744 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:49,960 a handful. Maybe there's 30 or 40 podcasts. It is the wave of 1745 01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:52,780 the future. There's no doubt about it. People love being able 1746 01:38:52,780 --> 01:38:55,240 to listen live. You get the live interaction we have the live 1747 01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,700 studio audience, as it were, although they're not an 1748 01:38:57,700 --> 01:39:01,620 audience, they are producers. Their entire raison d'etre is 1749 01:39:01,620 --> 01:39:06,000 trolls. Is to troll is to try. Yeah, at least our audience gets 1750 01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,280 to troll. They don't. We don't tell them to shut up and flash 1751 01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:14,460 an applause sign, like at Oprah, whoa, wait. Hora, white dudes 1752 01:39:14,460 --> 01:39:19,500 for Harris, Swifties for Harris. No, you do what you're what 1753 01:39:19,500 --> 01:39:22,220 comes naturally, which is troll. But sometimes they have some 1754 01:39:22,220 --> 01:39:25,520 good information as well, and that@trollroom.io's or you can 1755 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,120 use a modern podcast app. Many of them now give you a bat 1756 01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:32,300 signal. When we send out the bat signal, that fires up and let 1757 01:39:32,300 --> 01:39:34,760 you know, Oh, that's right, I was about to do something for my 1758 01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:38,000 boss here at work. And screw that. I'm listening to the show 1759 01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:40,720 and pretending to work. Let me turn on the mouse mover. 1760 01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:45,160 Everything's good to go. You also want to use one of those 1761 01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:49,480 because, well, I just got another notice Spotify that 1762 01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:53,800 removed a let's see the true north residential school. They 1763 01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,620 had an interview, and they removed it from Spotify because 1764 01:39:56,620 --> 01:40:00,480 it was dangerous content. John, dangerous content. Intent. They 1765 01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:04,260 removed what? They removed a whole episode of what of a 1766 01:40:04,260 --> 01:40:06,780 podcast? The true north 1767 01:40:06,779 --> 01:40:08,579 John C Dvorak: resonates that all the time, don't they? 1768 01:40:08,639 --> 01:40:11,099 Adam Curry: Yeah, but now people are sending me the reports when 1769 01:40:11,099 --> 01:40:14,579 it happens, so you do not want 1770 01:40:14,639 --> 01:40:17,939 John C Dvorak: to why would they remove a single episode of a 1771 01:40:17,939 --> 01:40:22,039 podcast? It's dangerous. What was dangerous about it, I 1772 01:40:22,039 --> 01:40:25,159 haven't more documentation on this what, because I'd like to 1773 01:40:25,159 --> 01:40:28,099 know what was dangerous about a podcast. 1774 01:40:28,100 --> 01:40:33,020 Adam Curry: Let me see Spotify removed that episode of true 1775 01:40:33,020 --> 01:40:35,480 Norse, the Faulkner show that featured an interview with 1776 01:40:35,480 --> 01:40:39,020 former residential school worker Rodney Clifton, claiming it 1777 01:40:39,020 --> 01:40:44,320 promoted dangerous content the streaming giant cited alleged 1778 01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:47,980 concerns over dangerous content. Okay, why? Why? Why? Upon 1779 01:40:47,980 --> 01:40:51,580 review, we've removed the following content for violating 1780 01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:55,600 Spotify platform rules for dangerous content, however, 1781 01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,480 specific details about what constitute dangerous were not 1782 01:40:58,480 --> 01:41:01,080 made clear. So they won't even tell you. 1783 01:41:02,100 --> 01:41:04,920 John C Dvorak: Oh, so they just remove it arbitrarily, yeah, and 1784 01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,860 claim it's dangerous because there's something that they 1785 01:41:07,860 --> 01:41:08,700 didn't like. 1786 01:41:08,700 --> 01:41:11,220 Adam Curry: Yeah, if, if something is not to their one 1787 01:41:11,220 --> 01:41:11,760 guy or 1788 01:41:11,759 --> 01:41:14,699 John C Dvorak: at Spotify, I don't like this. This is no good 1789 01:41:16,259 --> 01:41:18,419 pretty much. I disagree pretty 1790 01:41:18,420 --> 01:41:21,560 Adam Curry: much, pretty much. So if you get a modern podcast 1791 01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,200 app that's connected to the podcast index, and you can go to 1792 01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:29,000 podcast apps.com there's over 70 apps and services that use it 1793 01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:29,420 now, 1794 01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:33,560 John C Dvorak: by the way, yes, Patreon does the same thing. 1795 01:41:33,620 --> 01:41:36,440 Adam Curry: Oh, Patreon throws stuff off all the time, and 1796 01:41:36,440 --> 01:41:39,680 that's a demonetization at the same time you're done, that's 1797 01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,240 worse you're done, and they often keep your money for, you 1798 01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:47,800 know, 180 days or whatever. Oh, yeah. None of this is smart or 1799 01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:52,120 good. None of it. None of it. So get a modern podcast that people 1800 01:41:52,540 --> 01:41:58,780 now, I've noticed many people have complained to me. Well, I 1801 01:41:58,780 --> 01:42:03,240 read it as complaining. They may not be complaining. Tim pool is 1802 01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:07,740 now moaning that he has to work on weekends, and he's and 1803 01:42:07,740 --> 01:42:11,580 they're running all kinds of spots now in the show, and he's 1804 01:42:11,580 --> 01:42:16,860 doing live ad reads, and people are very irked by it. And I'm 1805 01:42:16,860 --> 01:42:20,720 like, what do you expect? He had the money train. Of all money 1806 01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:24,620 trains. He was making $5 million a year overnight that put some 1807 01:42:24,620 --> 01:42:28,040 of that in the bank. He bought a skateboard park, and he bought 1808 01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:29,360 all kinds of other real 1809 01:42:29,359 --> 01:42:32,599 John C Dvorak: estate spending. Oh, he was a good investment 1810 01:42:32,599 --> 01:42:34,879 skateboard park. That's where I put my money. 1811 01:42:37,220 --> 01:42:41,080 Adam Curry: You'd put it in Bitcoin before you put it in a 1812 01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:45,280 skate park. Well, also he has, he has staff. You know, it was, 1813 01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:48,160 it was easy. He's got a big stay, yeah, yeah. When you have 1814 01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:51,040 5 million bucks a year, it's like, this is a gravy train, 1815 01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,400 baby. Now he's got to pay everybody now on board. Now he's 1816 01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:57,760 got to work. You know, like us lowly podcasters, you got to do 1817 01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:03,420 some work, exactly. So we always stayed away from that. I have to 1818 01:43:03,420 --> 01:43:07,080 keep explaining to people that, yes, we realize that our 1819 01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:11,400 particular hot takes and brand of content and humor probably 1820 01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:15,180 wouldn't fly with most advertisers. In fact, I remember 1821 01:43:15,180 --> 01:43:19,980 distinctly getting a call from BMW when we had me VO, and they 1822 01:43:19,980 --> 01:43:25,580 were all really upset about, I think I wonder if it, maybe it 1823 01:43:25,580 --> 01:43:30,140 was, it must have been, might have been Madge Weinstein, I 1824 01:43:30,140 --> 01:43:34,340 don't know. And a BMW ran where ad ran where it shouldn't have. 1825 01:43:34,340 --> 01:43:37,220 And they pulled, they pulled all their advertising in one go, and 1826 01:43:37,220 --> 01:43:43,060 this was in 2007 so that's one of the reasons we never wanted 1827 01:43:43,060 --> 01:43:46,720 ads, but also we're just lazy talking to advertisers is a pain 1828 01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:48,280 in the butt, yeah, 1829 01:43:48,279 --> 01:43:49,959 John C Dvorak: it takes away from show prep, yet 1830 01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,840 Adam Curry: takes a lot of time away from show prep, and then 1831 01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:56,140 you gotta put together the metrics. Oh, look at the 1832 01:43:56,140 --> 01:44:02,940 metrics. Metrics. Do we hit your cable demo? And we also have 1833 01:44:02,940 --> 01:44:04,980 quite a diverse demo. You can't really target 1834 01:44:04,979 --> 01:44:08,339 John C Dvorak: one demo with no our demo is out of control. Nine 1835 01:44:08,339 --> 01:44:08,939 to 99 1836 01:44:09,299 --> 01:44:11,819 Adam Curry: we got kids, yeah, we do. We do. 1837 01:44:11,819 --> 01:44:14,759 John C Dvorak: We got the octogenarians. We Do? 1838 01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:18,480 Adam Curry: Do? We have any 90 judarians? What do you call 1839 01:44:18,480 --> 01:44:22,280 those? What's 90? What do you 90s? What do you in United 1840 01:44:22,340 --> 01:44:24,680 John C Dvorak: I should know, and I would have said that. I 1841 01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,980 know there's centenarians. We probably have a couple of those. 1842 01:44:28,039 --> 01:44:30,799 Adam Curry: If, if someone is 100 and you listen to the show, 1843 01:44:30,799 --> 01:44:34,879 please send an email to adam@curry.com I want to I want 1844 01:44:34,879 --> 01:44:38,839 to call you out. I want to call you out. I want to highlight 1845 01:44:38,839 --> 01:44:42,159 you. I really do. I want to highlight you. We may have one 1846 01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:43,359 or two. We may maybe 1847 01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,700 John C Dvorak: one or two again, loose enough. Instead, we went 1848 01:44:45,700 --> 01:44:46,420 Adam Curry: for a value for 1849 01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:51,999 John C Dvorak: value guys, you know, I find them refreshing. I 1850 01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,580 Adam Curry: guarantee you, anyone who listens to Noah Jen 1851 01:44:54,580 --> 01:44:57,940 as 100 is one of those who drinks a bottle of whiskey a 1852 01:44:57,940 --> 01:45:04,860 day, smokes a cigar and. And pops bacon, bacon, scarfed down. 1853 01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:13,140 Bacon. Exactly. That is us. Whoo, that's right. Hey, I just 1854 01:45:13,140 --> 01:45:16,980 realized only 40 more years and I'm there, and I plan to be 1855 01:45:16,980 --> 01:45:19,980 still spitting in the microphone, and you will be that 1856 01:45:19,980 --> 01:45:22,760 probably that's, well, what else am I going to do? Yeah, 1857 01:45:22,820 --> 01:45:26,120 literally, in 2015 I decided that this is what I'm good at, 1858 01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:30,980 and I gave up everything else pretty much. So I love my job, 1859 01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:35,780 and I love my I love what I do. I love my truck. So instead, we 1860 01:45:35,780 --> 01:45:38,720 went for the value for value model, which we pioneered. And 1861 01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:41,080 it's, it's always heartwarming to see that people are catching 1862 01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:44,620 on to that and and and doing that for themselves, 1863 01:45:44,620 --> 01:45:48,640 particularly in music. And you know, there is a future in this. 1864 01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,580 The future of media is small, though. You just have to delight 1865 01:45:51,580 --> 01:45:54,400 an audience that supports you, and as long as the audience 1866 01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:57,400 supports you because they're producers with time, talent or 1867 01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:01,800 treasure, then you'll be good to go. And that's so far so good 1868 01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,740 with us. So we're happy about that. Now, the artwork, which 1869 01:46:04,740 --> 01:46:08,340 comes from our many artists who are always submitting different 1870 01:46:08,340 --> 01:46:11,460 pieces of artwork during the show, while we're doing it there 1871 01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:14,940 making art live, so that we'll have it right when we're done. 1872 01:46:14,940 --> 01:46:18,000 By the way, the turnaround time is pretty fast. You know, the 1873 01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,360 minute we're done with a live show, within 30 minutes, you've 1874 01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:24,740 got it in your podcast app. Parker. Paulie was a black 1875 01:46:24,740 --> 01:46:29,180 knight, did a piece of art that I actually used for the for the 1876 01:46:29,180 --> 01:46:35,120 bat signal, because he put it in pretty early, and it was a pager 1877 01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,900 with an exploding background, and the message reads, three, 1878 01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:42,700 dot, dot, dot two. Dot, dot, dot, one, dot, dot. Episode 1879 01:46:42,700 --> 01:46:48,280 1696, violated a big rule that we always say is, don't use 1880 01:46:48,340 --> 01:46:53,860 episode number in your art, and also the fact that we used it 1881 01:46:53,860 --> 01:46:58,840 twice. There was one guy on Twitter, you had 40 pieces of 1882 01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:06,300 pager arts, and you did this one twice. It was that good. Oh, 1883 01:47:06,300 --> 01:47:09,660 man, I just spit on the curry. One holds up pretty well. 1884 01:47:10,979 --> 01:47:15,479 John C Dvorak: You know, the problem is, is that, is that the 1885 01:47:16,859 --> 01:47:21,619 the one that was picked and put on the list of winners was the 1886 01:47:21,619 --> 01:47:27,739 one that he did later called Boom. Not the 321, if you go to 1887 01:47:27,739 --> 01:47:32,539 the art generate, did I pull the wrong one? I think you did, hmm, 1888 01:47:32,839 --> 01:47:36,919 or somebody did, or maybe it was couture when he, when he put it 1889 01:47:36,919 --> 01:47:37,399 up there, 1890 01:47:38,899 --> 01:47:43,059 Adam Curry: I'm looking, no, it's Parker. Parker Pauly, who 1891 01:47:43,059 --> 01:47:44,439 did it? Not couture. Park he 1892 01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:46,419 John C Dvorak: did two of them. He did two of them. One was 321, 1893 01:47:46,839 --> 01:47:50,799 episode 1396, 3218, boom, and then the other one just said, 1894 01:47:50,799 --> 01:47:51,639 boom, on it. 1895 01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:54,400 Adam Curry: Well, right now I'm not getting anything from the 1896 01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:55,300 generator, so, 1897 01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:56,920 John C Dvorak: oh, I'm on it now 1898 01:47:58,300 --> 01:48:01,680 Adam Curry: this you're hogging the bandwidth. I'm taking all 1899 01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:05,280 the bandwidth. It's the AI. It's too much AI going on in the 1900 01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,160 background. It's not, it's not making it work. So a lot of 1901 01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:14,280 people did pager art, yeah, I'd say yes, but none was really as 1902 01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:16,920 good as that one. And you know, there was a lot of freak off 1903 01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:21,080 art, which was, I kind of like the Hezbollah, Hezbollah phone, 1904 01:48:21,140 --> 01:48:24,920 but tanta Neal, you correctly said that there were some 1905 01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:28,160 problems with it. Maybe you'd like to reiterate, and I have to 1906 01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:32,960 John C Dvorak: go back to I'm looking something else up. I 1907 01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,000 don't know which one it was the 1908 01:48:35,179 --> 01:48:37,999 Adam Curry: the two tin cans. Oh, that, yeah, it 1909 01:48:37,999 --> 01:48:40,279 John C Dvorak: was well for it was off. It was too hard to see. 1910 01:48:40,279 --> 01:48:43,059 I was just small. And it was, it was, it was, it was simple. It 1911 01:48:43,059 --> 01:48:47,439 was, I know you liked it, and it was, you know, it was cute. It 1912 01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:52,659 was also, yeah, it was all center, no agenda. Creative art 1913 01:48:52,659 --> 01:48:56,919 was too small. It just was unbalanced, yeah, 1914 01:48:56,920 --> 01:49:00,040 Adam Curry: unbalanced is the right word. And then there was, 1915 01:49:00,220 --> 01:49:03,660 we like the exploderola. That was kind of cute. Couple people 1916 01:49:03,660 --> 01:49:07,320 did explode arola correct a record. Didn't use that term 1917 01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:11,640 twice. Yeah, it was cute. Which was cute? Explode arola was 1918 01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:18,060 funny. Oh, I see, okay, the pagers go boom. I may have 1919 01:49:18,060 --> 01:49:19,800 picked the wrong one by mistake, 1920 01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,060 John C Dvorak: cuz that's what I was looking up. I was going to 1921 01:49:23,060 --> 01:49:26,420 go to no agenda show and see what it was, what's listed 1922 01:49:26,420 --> 01:49:27,680 there, because that would be the give 1923 01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:30,680 Adam Curry: and that, and that would have saved me. That would 1924 01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:35,780 have saved me from the scorn and the outrage that I'd used the 1925 01:49:35,780 --> 01:49:42,340 same piece of art twice. Oh, another. Miss, her. Um, was 1926 01:49:42,340 --> 01:49:45,880 anything else? No, that was, everyone did pagers, well, made, 1927 01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:49,120 made the most sense. So it was a real page pager, uh, pager, 1928 01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:52,900 competition. Page around it, yes, so far I'm looking, I don't 1929 01:49:52,900 --> 01:49:56,980 see much, uh, there's plenty of, plenty of chances to win people, 1930 01:49:57,940 --> 01:49:59,920 but not with Camella. I. 1931 01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:03,840 Bag: Ah, Horace. Horace. 1932 01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:05,760 John C Dvorak: Horace, Horace. 1933 01:50:06,299 --> 01:50:09,359 Adam Curry: No agenda. Art generator.com. You can refresh 1934 01:50:09,359 --> 01:50:12,419 that live during the show see how the artists are doing. I saw 1935 01:50:12,419 --> 01:50:14,999 Nick the rat in the troll room, so I wonder if he'll be, if 1936 01:50:14,999 --> 01:50:17,579 he'll be uploading anything, because I know that his life 1937 01:50:17,579 --> 01:50:21,319 changed and he couldn't listen live up. He might have given up. 1938 01:50:21,559 --> 01:50:24,259 He's still high on the leaderboard, though, he did real 1939 01:50:24,259 --> 01:50:24,919 well there 1940 01:50:24,979 --> 01:50:27,259 John C Dvorak: for a long, long time. Yeah, he was on a roll. 1941 01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:32,240 Adam Curry: Time and talent are those two things that you can 1942 01:50:32,300 --> 01:50:35,120 provide value back to us. Many people do lots of things, 1943 01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:38,240 including the art generator itself, hitting people in the 1944 01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:42,700 mouth, getting to listen to the show, just doing things to help 1945 01:50:42,700 --> 01:50:46,000 make the show better by being a producer, sending us in boots on 1946 01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:48,520 the ground, you name it. There's a lot of ways you can 1947 01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:54,640 contribute. We do need treasure. And the concept is, whatever 1948 01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:59,260 value you feel you got out of the show, send that back to it. 1949 01:50:59,260 --> 01:51:03,840 And that can be any amount for any reason at any time. We love 1950 01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:07,560 sustaining donations, which are usually smaller amounts, but you 1951 01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,980 can make up any amount you want, any frequency you want it. We 1952 01:51:10,980 --> 01:51:15,120 prefer those to be recurring, automatically recurring. You can 1953 01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,060 do all that at no agenda donations.com and around this 1954 01:51:18,060 --> 01:51:20,780 time in the show, we'd like to thank our executive and 1955 01:51:20,780 --> 01:51:24,800 Associate Executive producers. $200 and above is we read your 1956 01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,440 note and we give you an Associate Executive producer 1957 01:51:27,440 --> 01:51:31,040 credit, which is a real, real show business production credit. 1958 01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:34,100 You can use it anywhere that credits are recognized, 1959 01:51:34,100 --> 01:51:38,180 including imdb.com, or you could be an executive producer for 1960 01:51:38,180 --> 01:51:44,380 $300 above and we read your note now we have several who came in 1961 01:51:44,380 --> 01:51:46,780 for a new promotion, which I'd like you to talk about. 1962 01:51:47,259 --> 01:51:49,239 John C Dvorak: Yes, we have a new promotion. This will be our 1963 01:51:49,239 --> 01:51:54,699 show, 1700 promotion. Every year we do something, and this year 1964 01:51:54,699 --> 01:51:58,479 we're going to give away what's called the no agenda Commodore. 1965 01:51:59,139 --> 01:52:02,039 This was outlined in the newsletter for people don't get 1966 01:52:02,039 --> 01:52:05,339 the newsletter, we'll tell you what it is. Some people just 1967 01:52:05,339 --> 01:52:07,919 don't like the newsletter. I got a note from somebody. Your 1968 01:52:07,919 --> 01:52:12,179 newsletter stinks the beginnings. Always asking for 1969 01:52:12,179 --> 01:52:16,019 money. It's tiresome. And of course, I looked him up. He 1970 01:52:16,019 --> 01:52:17,759 never, he's never, never, 1971 01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:20,840 Adam Curry: ever, ever, ever, of course not, 1972 01:52:22,699 --> 01:52:27,619 John C Dvorak: but he likes to complain so so promotion is a 1973 01:52:27,620 --> 01:52:30,140 Adam Curry: lot of people, when they hear Commodore, associate 1974 01:52:30,140 --> 01:52:34,280 it with something other than a, a a title 1975 01:52:36,500 --> 01:52:39,500 John C Dvorak: the Commodore was the was the reference to the One 1976 01:52:39,500 --> 01:52:44,500 star Admiral in the Navy until about 1895 and it's become a and 1977 01:52:44,500 --> 01:52:47,740 Rhode Island is the main state that gives these out as 1978 01:52:47,740 --> 01:52:52,300 honorary, honorary, uh, titles to people as Commodore. There's 1979 01:52:52,300 --> 01:52:55,240 not that many Commodores out of Rhode Island compared to 1980 01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:58,900 Kentucky colonels, which is why, which this is based on the idea 1981 01:52:58,900 --> 01:53:03,120 of a Kentucky Colonel, which I am. One I actually have the 1982 01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:06,900 certification I got my Kentucky Colonel ship some years ago, 1983 01:53:06,900 --> 01:53:12,120 when I was giving a speech to I was offered to give a talk to 1984 01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:16,980 the Kentucky computer club or something back in the 80s. I 1985 01:53:16,980 --> 01:53:21,140 think it was a late 80s. And I said, No, I don't know. You 1986 01:53:21,140 --> 01:53:24,740 know, you see any honorarium or some now, we don't have anything 1987 01:53:24,740 --> 01:53:29,240 we can do. We who's who else is, spoke, spoken there. I said, 1988 01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:33,380 Well, Stuart elsop spoke here last time, and he they gave him. 1989 01:53:33,380 --> 01:53:39,080 He got a Kentucky Colonel ship. And I said, What? He says, Yeah. 1990 01:53:39,260 --> 01:53:42,820 I said, Well, you give me one of those. I'm coming. So I got a 1991 01:53:42,820 --> 01:53:46,480 Kentucky Colonel ship. Wilkerson was the governor at the time. 1992 01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:49,720 And it's a nice certificate. It's got a ribbon and everything 1993 01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:52,480 in the box. So this is kind of fashioned after that. It 1994 01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:54,279 Adam Curry: kind of sounds star Trekky too. 1995 01:53:56,319 --> 01:53:58,359 John C Dvorak: Well, the Commodore, yeah, didn't was that 1996 01:53:58,419 --> 01:54:01,919 Commodore? There was some nut woman has demanded to be 1997 01:54:01,919 --> 01:54:05,399 Commodores called Commodore all the time. But anyway, so, yeah, 1998 01:54:05,399 --> 01:54:08,939 it is a Star Trek equality. But so Commodore is one of these 1999 01:54:08,939 --> 01:54:12,299 alternative alternate to the colonel, and I it's a little 2000 01:54:12,299 --> 01:54:15,179 higher rank, and I thought it was sounded better. No agenda, 2001 01:54:15,179 --> 01:54:20,099 Commodore. And so this gives you a you'll get the nice 2002 01:54:20,099 --> 01:54:24,259 certificates on legal sizes, eight and a half by 14 is pretty 2003 01:54:24,259 --> 01:54:28,279 big and with a ribbon and a special stamp and it's got, it's 2004 01:54:28,279 --> 01:54:31,879 a nice certificate. Adam will pose with one of them in an 2005 01:54:31,879 --> 01:54:33,199 upcoming newsletter. Yeah. So 2006 01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:35,900 Adam Curry: you can put use it to meme crazy stuff on it. 2007 01:54:35,900 --> 01:54:41,200 Thanks. People always do. Oh, look, he's holding something up. 2008 01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:44,380 Oh, let's put a Star of David on there and put a little yarmulke 2009 01:54:44,380 --> 01:54:46,180 on him. Yeah, that's hilarious. 2010 01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:50,380 John C Dvorak: Whatever, whatever I will be publicity 2011 01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:53,020 Adam Curry: in the mail. Is it coming in? I can't wait to see 2012 01:54:53,020 --> 01:54:54,940 it. It's coming, 2013 01:54:54,940 --> 01:54:58,780 John C Dvorak: but it's not in the mail. Okay? We're still 2014 01:54:58,780 --> 01:55:00,780 working on the paper. No, is 2015 01:55:00,779 --> 01:55:03,179 Adam Curry: it going to be heavy stock? Yeah, it's 2016 01:55:03,180 --> 01:55:05,700 John C Dvorak: going to be heavy stock. But it's, it's, it's got 2017 01:55:05,700 --> 01:55:08,640 to be able to go through the printer. Can't be like a card 2018 01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:17,220 stock, okay, anyway, the that's coming and nice. Anyways, $500 2019 01:55:17,820 --> 01:55:21,980 and you get, you get the that and a couple, and you can just 2020 01:55:21,980 --> 01:55:26,180 go to know it just 500 bucks. Anyone 500 over, you'll get one 2021 01:55:26,180 --> 01:55:29,240 of these for until shows, until the end of the promotion. It's 2022 01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:30,860 about a month. We figure about a month. 2023 01:55:31,159 --> 01:55:34,339 Adam Curry: And so when can we see this thing? Is that soon I 2024 01:55:34,339 --> 01:55:36,979 want to see it. I'm interested. I love that people are already 2025 01:55:37,039 --> 01:55:39,379 getting it sight unseen, which is amazing. 2026 01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:42,100 John C Dvorak: Well, they know it's going to be hot looking. 2027 01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:43,420 Yeah, it's always hot. Anything 2028 01:55:43,420 --> 01:55:45,760 Adam Curry: that comes out of gate view publishing is hot. 2029 01:55:47,140 --> 01:55:48,820 John C Dvorak: Hot looking. Well, Jay's doing all the 2030 01:55:49,060 --> 01:55:51,400 designs, so she's good. All 2031 01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:54,040 Adam Curry: right. So we start off with our first executive 2032 01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:57,940 producer, who also will be a Commodore, anonymous, from no 2033 01:55:57,940 --> 01:56:03,360 city provided USA $500 and anonymous says, hey, it's been a 2034 01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:07,140 while since I donated, but I love a good Alter Ego. Well, 2035 01:56:07,140 --> 01:56:10,020 that's a good way of looking at it. Also, your show has given me 2036 01:56:10,020 --> 01:56:15,000 some of the best Z's over the years. I think it's a 2037 01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:19,560 compliment. Please. No, please call me Commodore gizmo. I am 2038 01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:23,600 sure I'll forget this as my as my night name, no jingles. Okay, 2039 01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:27,680 no jingles for you. But thank you very much. Anonymous and and 2040 01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:30,620 welcome. Actually, we're going to Commodore. People have a 2041 01:56:30,620 --> 01:56:32,780 little ceremony during 2042 01:56:32,780 --> 01:56:34,820 John C Dvorak: the second Oh, really. Oh, that's cute. That's 2043 01:56:34,820 --> 01:56:36,080 cute. Well, of course, I 2044 01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,120 Adam Curry: mean, I'm part of the promotion here. I'm trying 2045 01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:39,680 to do something. Yes, you are. Yeah, we 2046 01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:41,620 John C Dvorak: are the we. We key to it. We 2047 01:56:41,619 --> 01:56:43,719 Adam Curry: welcome our brand new Commodores. You bet 2048 01:56:44,979 --> 01:56:49,299 John C Dvorak: now we have surge globally. Go go low. Benko 2049 01:56:49,299 --> 01:56:55,299 gulabenco in Staten, island of all places, New York. And he it 2050 01:56:55,299 --> 01:56:58,359 will be a Commodore. And he says, If anyone in New York City 2051 01:56:58,419 --> 01:57:02,339 and Long Island requires environmental work, please reach 2052 01:57:02,339 --> 01:57:10,979 out to a GG for outstanding service. It's 718499, 2300, is 2053 01:57:10,979 --> 01:57:11,759 that a promotion? 2054 01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:14,640 Adam Curry: I think it is. I think it is a promo if you need 2055 01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:17,640 environmental work on Long Island in New York City, what is 2056 01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:18,420 environmental 2057 01:57:18,420 --> 01:57:22,160 John C Dvorak: work cleaning the rats out of the sewer. Oh, I 2058 01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:25,160 have no idea. It must be a lot of work that you would know. 2059 01:57:25,700 --> 01:57:29,900 Also, we should organize a meetup in Hampton, the Hampton 2060 01:57:29,900 --> 01:57:36,140 Bay Area, Montauk. I could get some help for the show. S g 2061 01:57:36,140 --> 01:57:44,980 dash, a G, g@hotmail.com, S G, dash a G, G, Hotmail. Hotmail. 2062 01:57:45,339 --> 01:57:48,339 Adam Curry: Sir Baronet John Helmer from Shawnee, Kansas, 2063 01:57:48,339 --> 01:57:53,319 comes in for 500 for for a Commodore ship Adam and John, 2064 01:57:53,319 --> 01:57:56,799 the numerology of show 1697, and the no agenda Commodore 2065 01:57:56,799 --> 01:58:01,859 promotion were too good to resist. I understand. I totally 2066 01:58:01,859 --> 01:58:06,479 get it. Thanks for the dose of sanity you provide twice a week. 2067 01:58:06,479 --> 01:58:11,639 Can I get an F 35 scream? Oh, hold on, F 35 karma. You see f 2068 01:58:11,699 --> 01:58:19,019 35 scream? Yes, F 35 scream and an r2, d2, karma. Thank you, sir 2069 01:58:19,019 --> 01:58:22,039 Baronet John Helmer from Shawnee, Kansas, 2070 01:58:27,500 --> 01:58:28,400 Unknown: you've got 2071 01:58:31,399 --> 01:58:35,239 John C Dvorak: very similar, yeah, almost the same Christian 2072 01:58:35,239 --> 01:58:39,679 Freeman in San Marcos, Texas, which I have to speak from you 2073 01:58:40,339 --> 01:58:44,499 500 another Commodore in the morning, John and Adam. I had a 2074 01:58:44,499 --> 01:58:47,319 night status a few months ago via the layaway program. And all 2075 01:58:47,319 --> 01:58:51,579 that time, I'd never written and never written in so So I needed 2076 01:58:51,579 --> 01:58:52,179 deducing. 2077 01:58:53,979 --> 01:58:55,839 Unknown: You've been deduced. 2078 01:58:56,859 --> 01:58:59,319 John C Dvorak: My wife and I have loved listening to no 2079 01:58:59,319 --> 01:59:02,999 agenda together every week since we started listening in January 2080 01:59:02,999 --> 01:59:10,019 of 2022, we now recommend it to all of our family as a antidote 2081 01:59:10,079 --> 01:59:16,439 to the MSM craziness. They might not understand how podcast apps 2082 01:59:16,499 --> 01:59:20,099 work well, then they won't be listening for long. But when 2083 01:59:20,099 --> 01:59:24,619 we're visiting, we enjoy sitting down together to listen to some 2084 01:59:24,619 --> 01:59:27,079 of the good old media deacons. 2085 01:59:27,139 --> 01:59:29,959 Adam Curry: You can just go to no agenda show.net you can play 2086 01:59:29,959 --> 01:59:32,659 it right there. You don't need a podcast app. You can do it right 2087 01:59:32,659 --> 01:59:33,439 from the website. 2088 01:59:34,819 --> 01:59:39,079 John C Dvorak: Please Knight me sir crimby of the San Marcos 2089 01:59:39,079 --> 01:59:42,579 River, and with which, always he gets a knighting. I hope he's on 2090 01:59:42,579 --> 01:59:45,879 the list. Yes, he and with my donation today, a Commodore 2091 01:59:46,299 --> 01:59:50,679 Commodore crimby, I let you guys decide how that works. I'll have 2092 01:59:50,679 --> 01:59:57,399 a glass of orange juice and Ray Ray Peets carrot salad at this 2093 01:59:57,519 --> 02:00:02,159 round table. Yum. I guess the same. Us please. Thanks, guys. A 2094 02:00:02,159 --> 02:00:06,299 quick shout out to Billy and spud from the guy was gonna get 2095 02:00:06,299 --> 02:00:11,219 kick out a guy's name spud from the bud from the war mode 2096 02:00:11,219 --> 02:00:16,379 podcast for first making me aware of no agenda. Thank we win 2097 02:00:16,379 --> 02:00:20,719 this. Yeah. Shout out to Billy and Spud. Yep. Billion Spud, a 2098 02:00:20,719 --> 02:00:25,459 few years ago. War mode, donation. Can I get a jobs karma 2099 02:00:25,459 --> 02:00:28,459 as I'm interviewing for a new job over the next few weeks? 2100 02:00:28,459 --> 02:00:29,359 Thanks for all you do. 2101 02:00:29,359 --> 02:00:34,639 Unknown: Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs, let's vote for jobs. 2102 02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:38,660 You've got karma. 2103 02:00:39,680 --> 02:00:42,940 Adam Curry: Then we have Dame Cheryl from Pinedale, Wisconsin, 2104 02:00:42,940 --> 02:00:49,600 333 Wyoming Wyoming, 333 33 and she sent in a note with a check. 2105 02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:53,680 I see John and Adam. Thank you for being awesome, and congrats 2106 02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:56,740 on your upcoming 17 year anniversary. Your show is the 2107 02:00:56,740 --> 02:01:00,160 best. And I'm always enlightened by a deconstruction of current 2108 02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:03,600 events in my neighborhood, we have not noted any missing cats, 2109 02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:06,840 dogs or ducks, but since the animals outnumber people by 10 2110 02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:10,380 to one, we might not notice. However, if anyone tried to 2111 02:01:10,380 --> 02:01:13,260 swipe a pet around here would not go so well for the 2112 02:01:13,260 --> 02:01:18,000 perpetrator She's packing. Thank you for your courage. Yes, we 2113 02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:20,660 are going to need a good dose of that in the coming months. Dame 2114 02:01:20,660 --> 02:01:24,140 Cheryl, cowgirl of the Wind River Range and Wyoming, she got 2115 02:01:24,140 --> 02:01:26,540 a picture of her on a on a horse. Here, it looks like her, 2116 02:01:26,540 --> 02:01:29,720 doesn't it like her on the checks? Yeah, personalized 2117 02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:32,120 checks. Nice. Thank you very much. Dame Cheryl, nice 2118 02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:36,560 handwriting too, by the way, very classic, classic big, big 2119 02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:40,160 loops, big loops, big hoops and loops. Got 2120 02:01:40,160 --> 02:01:40,780 John C Dvorak: style. 2121 02:01:40,839 --> 02:01:41,559 Unknown: He does, 2122 02:01:41,980 --> 02:01:48,220 John C Dvorak: surly, furious, surly, surly, furious, surly, 2123 02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:50,140 Adam Curry: surely sir. 2124 02:01:50,500 --> 02:01:52,840 John C Dvorak: I'm in St Petersburg, Florida, 250 2125 02:01:53,740 --> 02:01:58,600 Associate Executive producer in the morning. Just left my first 2126 02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:03,060 meetup in St Pete. Had a great time. Met lots of great people. 2127 02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:07,560 John and Adam replay the Hillary clips from last week. She says, 2128 02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:13,800 ah, enough to rival Bill Gates, sir. Lee, surely furious. Well, 2129 02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:13,860 I 2130 02:02:13,860 --> 02:02:16,080 Adam Curry: won't do that, but I will play half of the AI 2131 02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:16,620 Hillary, 2132 02:02:16,739 --> 02:02:19,559 Unknown: will you be choking Puff Daddy this time around? 2133 02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:21,980 So how are you planning on doing? I 2134 02:02:21,979 --> 02:02:24,919 wanted to choke him at night and make it look like a suicide, 2135 02:02:24,919 --> 02:02:27,679 just like Jeffrey Epstein. But then I realized puffy might 2136 02:02:27,679 --> 02:02:30,799 actually enjoy that. So, you know, maybe he slips on the 2137 02:02:30,799 --> 02:02:33,199 shower. Maybe he chokes with a piece of fried chicken. I still 2138 02:02:33,199 --> 02:02:35,239 haven't decided yet. So, good. 2139 02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:40,240 Adam Curry: Serpent in the troll room. Hello. Serpent in the 2140 02:02:40,240 --> 02:02:44,380 troll room. Yo sup, cranky in the hair guy, it's my 31st 2141 02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:48,640 birthday today. Hooray. I'm no longer in the target demo. Why 2142 02:02:48,640 --> 02:02:52,120 you are the demo? Bruh, thanks for all you guys do the target 2143 02:02:52,120 --> 02:02:55,480 demo is totally the demo. Thanks for all you guys do and give the 2144 02:02:55,480 --> 02:02:59,920 troll some karma. PS, if any producers could use a no agenda 2145 02:02:59,920 --> 02:03:03,420 Baronet with a background in meteorology, who knows Python 2146 02:03:03,420 --> 02:03:06,540 better than the average science programmer is willing to learn 2147 02:03:06,540 --> 02:03:10,680 the good old languages like Fortran, C, C plus, plus, and 2148 02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:15,660 wants to be saved from this full stupidity. Web dev, I'm serpent 2149 02:03:15,660 --> 02:03:19,380 in the troll room, or on zero node in general, and on no 2150 02:03:19,380 --> 02:03:23,060 authority, all right, 222, dot, 22 Associate Executive 2151 02:03:23,060 --> 02:03:26,060 producership For serpent, who's getting lots of karma in the 2152 02:03:26,060 --> 02:03:29,000 troll room. And karma for you right now 2153 02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:32,600 Unknown: you've got karma. 2154 02:03:34,699 --> 02:03:40,359 John C Dvorak: Kevin garguilo In Sugar Hill, Georgia. 222, dot, 2155 02:03:40,359 --> 02:03:44,319 two, two. That's another row of ducks. Greetings, John and Adam, 2156 02:03:44,439 --> 02:03:47,439 please accept my annual retirement treasure donation for 2157 02:03:47,439 --> 02:03:52,299 a row of ducks on 922 I will have completed two years of my 2158 02:03:52,299 --> 02:03:57,159 early retirement. No jingles, no karma, sir. Kevin G of the Lake 2159 02:03:57,159 --> 02:04:02,759 Lanier land, Lanier Lanier boaters. So Kevin, G, A, R, uh. 2160 02:04:04,439 --> 02:04:05,279 Guard Yeah. 2161 02:04:05,879 --> 02:04:08,819 Adam Curry: Guard julo is low. Pronunciation, 2162 02:04:08,819 --> 02:04:10,619 John C Dvorak: oh. Guard julo, okay. Guard you low. 2163 02:04:10,679 --> 02:04:13,679 Adam Curry: What are you doing in your early retirement? Kevin, 2164 02:04:13,919 --> 02:04:18,239 are you just putting the lawn puttering? Puttering? The Law, 2165 02:04:18,359 --> 02:04:21,479 John C Dvorak: putting Yeah, putting the lawn puttering, 2166 02:04:21,539 --> 02:04:24,919 Adam Curry: hey and with 209 dot 23 there he is, Eli, the coffee 2167 02:04:24,919 --> 02:04:28,279 guy from bensonville, Illinois. We appreciate his support so 2168 02:04:28,279 --> 02:04:31,279 much. And he would like to invite all producers to help us 2169 02:04:31,279 --> 02:04:38,959 that will be gigawatt coffee roaster, gigawatt coffee to 2170 02:04:38,959 --> 02:04:42,519 celebrate an unappreciated holiday tomorrow, September 23 2171 02:04:43,119 --> 02:04:46,959 is national. See, say day. That's right, 2172 02:04:47,500 --> 02:04:48,040 John C Dvorak: it's national. 2173 02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:50,020 Adam Curry: What see for See Something, Say Something 2174 02:04:50,020 --> 02:04:54,700 national. See, say day, yes, because Janet Napolitano said it 2175 02:04:54,700 --> 02:04:58,240 best if you see something, say something to help commemorate 2176 02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:01,440 this important day, gigawatt coffee. Roses is offering all of 2177 02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:06,540 our sample packs for 23% off, because nothing opens your eyes 2178 02:05:06,540 --> 02:05:10,920 more than a good cup of coffee. Use code. See, say valid from 2179 02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:15,780 922 through 926 stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee 2180 02:05:15,780 --> 02:05:20,900 guy, go and he does ask for, I didn't realize he had that. See, 2181 02:05:20,900 --> 02:05:24,560 something, say something. He wants the See Something, Say 2182 02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:27,080 Something, jingle. And what else did he want? There? 2183 02:05:27,079 --> 02:05:29,599 John C Dvorak: They're eating the dogs. We got to, get to pull 2184 02:05:29,599 --> 02:05:31,999 that clip. I have it, Trump, I have it. Oh, you do good. 2185 02:05:32,060 --> 02:05:34,580 Adam Curry: I have it, I have it. Yes, and anything else? No, 2186 02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:35,240 okay, 2187 02:05:35,299 --> 02:05:36,319 Unknown: if you see something, 2188 02:05:38,540 --> 02:05:41,320 John C Dvorak: you're eating the dogs. I pulled that clip a long 2189 02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:43,780 time ago, believe me, a classic. It 2190 02:05:43,780 --> 02:05:44,560 Adam Curry: is a classic. 2191 02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:47,800 John C Dvorak: They're eating the dogs. They are. Linda 2192 02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:52,780 lupatkin is up, and I see our last person here tonight. Yes, 2193 02:05:52,780 --> 02:05:57,220 yes. She's very short. Again, yes. Linda patkin, a Lakewood, 2194 02:05:57,220 --> 02:06:00,480 Colorado, 200 she wants some jobs. Karma. I think we can give 2195 02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:03,540 her that. PSA to all you businesses out there, donate it 2196 02:06:03,540 --> 02:06:06,780 works. And for a resume that works, visit the imagemakers 2197 02:06:06,780 --> 02:06:10,500 inc.com with a k for all your executive resume and job search 2198 02:06:10,500 --> 02:06:14,220 needs and work with Linda Lou the Duchess of jobs, and writer 2199 02:06:14,220 --> 02:06:16,080 of resumes, jobs, 2200 02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:18,780 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. 2201 02:06:18,959 --> 02:06:20,399 Let's go for jobs. 2202 02:06:22,279 --> 02:06:27,079 Adam Curry: Cards. Yeah, baby. No. Agenda donations.com. Thank 2203 02:06:27,079 --> 02:06:29,659 you very much to our executive and Associate Executive 2204 02:06:29,659 --> 02:06:31,819 producers, and we will be officially welcoming our 2205 02:06:31,819 --> 02:06:35,479 Commodores in the second segment. And of course, we read 2206 02:06:35,479 --> 02:06:39,679 all of the donation amounts and the names $50 and above. Thank 2207 02:06:39,679 --> 02:06:41,979 you so much for supporting us. The best podcast in the 2208 02:06:41,979 --> 02:06:44,139 universe. Episode is 1697, 2209 02:06:45,399 --> 02:06:49,839 Unknown: our formula is this. We go out. We get people in the 2210 02:06:49,839 --> 02:06:50,079 mouth. 2211 02:06:58,119 --> 02:06:59,739 They're eating the dogs. Shut 2212 02:07:02,859 --> 02:07:04,559 Adam Curry: up. US no attendant donations.com. 2213 02:07:06,600 --> 02:07:09,120 John C Dvorak: I want to talk a little bit about drag queens. 2214 02:07:10,019 --> 02:07:13,739 Adam Curry: You know, so many wonderful dinner parties have 2215 02:07:13,739 --> 02:07:17,699 started off with that very sentence. I want to talk a 2216 02:07:17,699 --> 02:07:19,739 little bit about drag queens 2217 02:07:19,739 --> 02:07:22,399 John C Dvorak: because there's a there is a commentary that was 2218 02:07:22,399 --> 02:07:26,899 put out by James kunsler, the writer, that I think is worth 2219 02:07:27,139 --> 02:07:30,379 putting on the show. But first of all, let's talk about what 2220 02:07:30,379 --> 02:07:31,819 happened to Tupperware. 2221 02:07:32,299 --> 02:07:34,399 Adam Curry: Oh yeah, they went out of business. They 2222 02:07:34,399 --> 02:07:36,199 John C Dvorak: went out of business. And I think it might 2223 02:07:36,199 --> 02:07:39,079 be that there might be some evidence as to why they really 2224 02:07:39,079 --> 02:07:42,099 went out of business with these these two clips. This is 2225 02:07:42,099 --> 02:07:43,419 Tupperware in the drag queen 2226 02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:46,300 Unknown: this week, one of America's most iconic brands 2227 02:07:46,300 --> 02:07:50,440 filed for bankruptcy. Tupperware was a staple of American 2228 02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:53,620 households for decades, so much so that many people refer to any 2229 02:07:53,620 --> 02:07:56,980 plastic container as Tupperware, whether or not it is the brand 2230 02:07:56,980 --> 02:08:00,720 the company emerged in post war America and sales opportunities 2231 02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:03,540 once revolutionized women's earning potential, but over the 2232 02:08:03,540 --> 02:08:05,760 years, a new generation of sellers have picked up the 2233 02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:08,880 torch. Drag queens have become some of tupperwares most 2234 02:08:08,940 --> 02:08:13,320 successful salespeople over the past few decades, Oscar Quintero 2235 02:08:13,320 --> 02:08:16,380 has found similar success selling Tupperware in drag as 2236 02:08:16,380 --> 02:08:17,400 que sidia. 2237 02:08:19,380 --> 02:08:23,120 Adam Curry: Que sidia Really Okay, first of all, I'm gonna 2238 02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:26,960 pull a John C Dvorak on you. They didn't go out of business. 2239 02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:33,020 They only filed chapter 11, not the same thing. Yeah? So they're 2240 02:08:33,020 --> 02:08:35,240 not out of business. They've just filed chapter No, 2241 02:08:35,299 --> 02:08:37,459 John C Dvorak: they'll be, yeah, yes, that's what you do. It's a 2242 02:08:37,459 --> 02:08:37,819 reorg. 2243 02:08:37,879 --> 02:08:39,559 Adam Curry: It's bankruptcy protection. 2244 02:08:39,980 --> 02:08:40,960 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a reorg. They're 2245 02:08:40,959 --> 02:08:41,979 Adam Curry: going out of business. But 2246 02:08:41,980 --> 02:08:45,640 John C Dvorak: don't you think that becomes a drag queen thing, 2247 02:08:45,640 --> 02:08:47,980 and next thing you know, they're out of business, or not out of 2248 02:08:47,980 --> 02:08:50,320 business, but they have to follow chapter 11. I mean, come 2249 02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:50,680 on, you're 2250 02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:52,780 Adam Curry: telling me it's related. Are you telling me this 2251 02:08:52,780 --> 02:08:57,940 is related? Yeah, I would think that that the drag queens that 2252 02:08:57,940 --> 02:09:01,060 would be such a draw, because the ladies love the drag queens. 2253 02:09:01,060 --> 02:09:03,960 Oh, a lot of them do. We're doing a Tupperware party, and 2254 02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:07,440 the drag queens are coming over. It's going to be a hoot. Now 2255 02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:12,180 John C Dvorak: they're they have to bring this guy. Kate Sadia, 2256 02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:17,220 and I have another complaint. Just going to complain about 2257 02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:20,100 drag queens, but I'm going to complain about this one. Here's 2258 02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:21,920 the part two, and he joins us now to 2259 02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:23,900 Unknown: talk about his experience. Oscar, welcome to 2260 02:09:23,900 --> 02:09:25,040 All Things Considered. Hi. 2261 02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:25,940 Thanks for having me. 2262 02:09:26,239 --> 02:09:29,719 Can I just, can I get quesadilla a sales pitch before we talk 2263 02:09:29,719 --> 02:09:30,499 more broadly? 2264 02:09:30,859 --> 02:09:34,399 Sure. Hola, everyone, it's me. K said, Yeah, your 18 year old, 2265 02:09:34,399 --> 02:09:36,979 international high fashion model, top word diva Chola from 2266 02:09:36,979 --> 02:09:42,139 Tijuana, hot res, 2267 02:09:43,659 --> 02:09:48,219 John C Dvorak: now Bill Dana was run out of town years ago for 2268 02:09:48,219 --> 02:09:55,839 doing Jose Jimenez and I don't, and the Chihuahua for from Taco 2269 02:09:55,839 --> 02:09:58,959 Bell, was run out of town because the Chihuahua had a 2270 02:09:58,959 --> 02:10:01,499 Mexican accent. But this is okay, 2271 02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:04,140 Adam Curry: okay to talk about. Well, if you're, if you're a 2272 02:10:04,140 --> 02:10:07,260 drag queen, you can do anything you want, in particular to kids. 2273 02:10:09,540 --> 02:10:12,240 John C Dvorak: So this brings me to this clip from James. James 2274 02:10:12,240 --> 02:10:16,860 kunzler is on a podcast with this Piero character, and he's a 2275 02:10:16,860 --> 02:10:24,080 writer, uh, he he's a political writer. He hates Republicans to 2276 02:10:24,080 --> 02:10:28,760 the extreme, but hates Democrats. The only one he likes 2277 02:10:28,760 --> 02:10:33,320 in politics is Trump, because he's seen sees the Democrats and 2278 02:10:33,320 --> 02:10:36,080 Republicans, is a bunch of corrupt parties, and Trump is a 2279 02:10:36,080 --> 02:10:40,280 savior of some sort, but interesting, but yeah, and he's 2280 02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:42,580 a good writer. He's got a couple of books you should look at, 2281 02:10:42,580 --> 02:10:45,940 Kunstler, James Kunstler, he's got a couple of books out that 2282 02:10:45,940 --> 02:10:50,560 are really dynamite. But I I heard this analysis of drag 2283 02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:54,880 queens is something I've never heard, and I was kind of taken 2284 02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:57,940 aback. And I thought it was kind of interesting, because it I 2285 02:10:57,940 --> 02:10:59,860 don't know what to make of it, but here we go. 2286 02:10:59,979 --> 02:11:03,899 Unknown: I mean, there are some elements of all the mischief 2287 02:11:03,899 --> 02:11:09,419 that's going on that are obviously either explicitly 2288 02:11:09,419 --> 02:11:16,139 planned or allowed. For example, the insanity of the drag queen 2289 02:11:16,139 --> 02:11:19,019 Story Hour phenomenon in America. Do you have that in 2290 02:11:19,019 --> 02:11:21,559 Europe? Of course. Oh, you do. Well, you had it at the 2291 02:11:21,559 --> 02:11:22,279 Olympics. 2292 02:11:22,339 --> 02:11:25,699 So it is coordinated, because obviously, otherwise we wouldn't 2293 02:11:25,699 --> 02:11:26,359 have it. 2294 02:11:26,420 --> 02:11:29,720 Yeah, you saw the Olympic opening ceremonies, right? And 2295 02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:32,540 the closing ceremonies. Well, actually, didn't look at it, but 2296 02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:35,660 I saw, you must have seen some, some photos and video. 2297 02:11:36,680 --> 02:11:38,480 I don't have time to for such things. 2298 02:11:38,779 --> 02:11:41,499 I didn't either. I saw the videos, but I saw plenty of it 2299 02:11:41,559 --> 02:11:47,079 exactly, and it was completely insane. And the drag queen story 2300 02:11:47,079 --> 02:11:50,139 hour in America, it's an interesting phenomenon, because 2301 02:11:50,139 --> 02:11:54,519 I think it's misunderstood. You know, these men who are dressing 2302 02:11:54,519 --> 02:11:59,619 up as women, in quotes, women, they are not presenting 2303 02:11:59,619 --> 02:12:03,719 themselves as women. Strictly speaking, they're presenting 2304 02:12:03,779 --> 02:12:08,579 women as monsters. And this is a very, I think, a kind of a 2305 02:12:08,579 --> 02:12:13,379 subtle psychological ploy be one thing if they were just saying, 2306 02:12:13,379 --> 02:12:15,539 you know, we're trying to make ourselves as beautiful as 2307 02:12:15,539 --> 02:12:18,839 possible and pass ourselves off as women, but they are so 2308 02:12:18,839 --> 02:12:22,579 obviously acting as monsters. There's some other psychological 2309 02:12:22,579 --> 02:12:27,439 dynamic that's going on there that you have to think is pretty 2310 02:12:27,439 --> 02:12:31,219 sick. It's the kind of thing that's so subtle that it's 2311 02:12:31,219 --> 02:12:34,939 easily misunderstood even by supposedly intelligent people 2312 02:12:34,939 --> 02:12:41,079 who are missing the point and and the idea that the educated 2313 02:12:41,079 --> 02:12:45,099 class, the thinking class in America, which predominates in 2314 02:12:45,099 --> 02:12:51,819 the left globalist Democratic Party cohort, yes, the the fact 2315 02:12:51,819 --> 02:12:55,419 that they think that's okay tells you that they're insane, 2316 02:12:55,779 --> 02:12:56,439 right there. 2317 02:12:58,300 --> 02:13:01,380 Adam Curry: That's an interesting analysis, and we 2318 02:13:01,380 --> 02:13:06,360 have to make a distinction between transvestites, which is 2319 02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:09,780 men who like to dress like women, and drag queens who 2320 02:13:09,780 --> 02:13:14,160 indeed, he makes a good point. And I think drag queens in 2321 02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:20,400 general are gay guys, very, you know, kind of the the effeminate 2322 02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:26,300 girlfriend, flamboyant, flamboyant. That's what I was 2323 02:13:26,300 --> 02:13:31,280 looking for. And there may be a deep rooted, I would say, 2324 02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:35,900 probably fear. I'm not a psychoanalyst, of course, a fear 2325 02:13:35,900 --> 02:13:39,500 of women or hate. I don't know if it's really it's probably 2326 02:13:39,500 --> 02:13:44,320 Mom, mom issues, you know? Well, yeah, but, 2327 02:13:44,319 --> 02:13:48,459 John C Dvorak: but the monsters now is exactly right, yeah, if 2328 02:13:48,459 --> 02:13:51,039 you look at them, they're monsters. There's not like a 2329 02:13:51,279 --> 02:13:52,659 person. No, 2330 02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:57,760 Adam Curry: no. Well, I guess I'm gonna cancel, uh, the drag 2331 02:13:57,820 --> 02:14:04,740 queen story hour for our meetup here in Fredericksburg. Now that 2332 02:14:04,740 --> 02:14:07,260 is interesting. I had, had not really thought of it that way, 2333 02:14:08,220 --> 02:14:14,040 but it is inherently anti woman, if you think about it. 2334 02:14:16,079 --> 02:14:20,659 John C Dvorak: I just found it. Found the analysis. I was taken 2335 02:14:20,659 --> 02:14:21,019 aback. 2336 02:14:21,080 --> 02:14:23,480 Adam Curry: I never really understood the appeal. I mean, I 2337 02:14:23,480 --> 02:14:28,640 think it started with female impersonators, so I kind of, no, 2338 02:14:29,060 --> 02:14:33,020 I think I understood the Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do Cher or 2339 02:14:33,020 --> 02:14:36,140 I'm gonna do Madonna, or I'm gonna do Barbara Streisand, and 2340 02:14:36,140 --> 02:14:39,620 that was more like a vaudeville esque, you know, it's funny. 2341 02:14:39,680 --> 02:14:43,540 It's like, is it Tim burleski, burlesque? Yes, it was funny, 2342 02:14:43,540 --> 02:14:46,480 and they'd do an outrageous impersonation. And, you know, 2343 02:14:46,480 --> 02:14:49,480 there was real money to be made in that, but it just became a 2344 02:14:49,480 --> 02:14:53,320 whole thing all by itself. Yeah, it that. You know what that is, 2345 02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:59,740 entropy, right there. Oh, stop, stop. Sorry, entropy. 2346 02:14:59,740 --> 02:15:00,540 John C Dvorak: And. Entropy, 2347 02:15:01,080 --> 02:15:04,320 Adam Curry: yeah, it left to its own devices. It just devolved. 2348 02:15:04,320 --> 02:15:05,700 And it just became horrible, 2349 02:15:07,079 --> 02:15:09,059 John C Dvorak: horrible, yeah, horrible, horrible, 2350 02:15:10,439 --> 02:15:12,059 Adam Curry: horrible. Well, that was refreshing. 2351 02:15:12,180 --> 02:15:15,240 Unknown: Can I move on that you would lighten things up? Yeah, 2352 02:15:15,239 --> 02:15:16,919 Adam Curry: let me lighten things up with some climate 2353 02:15:16,919 --> 02:15:17,399 change 2354 02:15:17,400 --> 02:15:19,320 John C Dvorak: under the inflation Reduction Act seven 2355 02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:23,120 and a half billion for building these charging stations. The 2356 02:15:23,120 --> 02:15:26,900 latest information, eight have been built with the seven and a 2357 02:15:26,900 --> 02:15:27,440 half billion. 2358 02:15:27,439 --> 02:15:31,519 Adam Curry: This is an interview with, I think, with budge are, 2359 02:15:31,579 --> 02:15:32,059 by the way, 2360 02:15:33,199 --> 02:15:36,379 John C Dvorak: on this note, they've built they just gone on 2361 02:15:36,379 --> 02:15:39,019 for four years with the very when Biden was first running, 2362 02:15:39,019 --> 02:15:41,859 oh, we're gonna build 500,000 charging stations. They built 2363 02:15:41,859 --> 02:15:46,839 eight. Meanwhile, as camel is running, she's talking about 2364 02:15:46,839 --> 02:15:51,039 building 3 million homes. Yes, they're not building one home. 2365 02:15:51,039 --> 02:15:53,679 They can't build eight of these charging stations. They're going 2366 02:15:53,679 --> 02:15:54,579 to build all these homes. 2367 02:15:54,579 --> 02:15:57,099 Adam Curry: I don't think so. I know why, but let's listen to 2368 02:15:57,099 --> 02:15:57,879 Buddha judge. First 2369 02:15:58,960 --> 02:16:01,560 John C Dvorak: that had been allocated, you're supposed to 2370 02:16:01,560 --> 02:16:05,580 get to 500,000 of these charging stations by 2030 2371 02:16:06,960 --> 02:16:10,440 Unknown: what is really the problem with do you give you 2372 02:16:10,440 --> 02:16:14,580 looked at that and figured out why? Oh, yeah, no, that's 2373 02:16:14,580 --> 02:16:19,200 that's on track. So we're at about 190,000 publicly available 2374 02:16:19,200 --> 02:16:22,520 charging stations in the US, that's approximately double what 2375 02:16:22,520 --> 02:16:25,520 the level was when President Biden came in. The issue, 2376 02:16:25,520 --> 02:16:28,700 though, is that there are some gaps in the market, ones that 2377 02:16:28,700 --> 02:16:31,160 are just not going to be built by the private sector that's 2378 02:16:31,160 --> 02:16:34,160 been building the construction of those chargers to date. 2379 02:16:34,400 --> 02:16:36,980 That's why the legislation provided for funding to do 2380 02:16:36,980 --> 02:16:40,540 federally supported chargers that are intended to be online 2381 02:16:40,540 --> 02:16:44,800 before 2030 now the bulk of that construction will happen in 2728 2382 02:16:46,420 --> 02:16:50,140 quite a bit actually, I expect by 2026 a handful, as you 2383 02:16:50,140 --> 02:16:52,960 mentioned, are actually already up and running. But really what 2384 02:16:52,960 --> 02:16:56,020 you're going to see is more the second half of this decade. And 2385 02:16:56,020 --> 02:16:58,420 it's really important to have those federally supported 2386 02:16:58,420 --> 02:17:01,860 chargers, because you have stretches of road, or even just 2387 02:17:01,860 --> 02:17:04,560 in the middle of our cities, apartment buildings, places in 2388 02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:08,160 our economy where it just doesn't yet pencil out for there 2389 02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:11,640 to be the private sector profitably doing that. And you 2390 02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:16,200 know, even though about 80% of EV charging happens at home, the 2391 02:17:16,200 --> 02:17:22,100 reality is the new EV kind of landscape we're working toward 2392 02:17:22,100 --> 02:17:25,520 where the President's goals about half of sales to be EVs by 2393 02:17:25,520 --> 02:17:28,580 the end of this decade, requires us, by the end of this decade, 2394 02:17:28,580 --> 02:17:31,160 to have a lot of charging apparatus that just isn't there 2395 02:17:31,160 --> 02:17:32,360 as we're sitting here in 2024 2396 02:17:32,840 --> 02:17:37,100 Adam Curry: so what Joe Kernan there at CNBC did not get to the 2397 02:17:37,100 --> 02:17:40,360 reason that they have not built them is because of the 2398 02:17:40,360 --> 02:17:44,800 requirements for the contracts, this is so typical of this 2399 02:17:44,800 --> 02:17:50,380 particular administration, the contracts require that these be 2400 02:17:50,380 --> 02:17:57,220 built by minority companies, either women owned, people of 2401 02:17:57,220 --> 02:18:03,120 color owned, etc, and most companies don't qualify. That's 2402 02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:05,880 what the holdup is. It's the same thing with the broadband. 2403 02:18:05,940 --> 02:18:09,780 $42 billion worth of broadband, all the stuff in the inflation 2404 02:18:09,780 --> 02:18:13,200 Reduction Act was all woke. They put all of this woke 2405 02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:17,760 connotation, ESG, dei stuff onto it, and that's why there's no 2406 02:18:17,760 --> 02:18:18,900 one is qualifying. 2407 02:18:20,100 --> 02:18:21,560 John C Dvorak: Well, this is a plus. 2408 02:18:23,960 --> 02:18:27,620 Adam Curry: Well, yes, in a way, it's a plus. I agree, because 2409 02:18:27,620 --> 02:18:32,240 these EVs made sexy by Elon Musk, I am against them. I think 2410 02:18:32,240 --> 02:18:36,860 it's a bad idea. I don't like them. I don't like the danger of 2411 02:18:36,860 --> 02:18:41,200 them. And in fact, they're quite bad, even in traffic on the 2412 02:18:41,200 --> 02:18:42,220 highway, turning now 2413 02:18:42,220 --> 02:18:44,980 Unknown: to something you may not know, the new crash tests of 2414 02:18:44,980 --> 02:18:48,220 electric vehicles, which point to an unexpected danger. 2415 02:18:48,220 --> 02:18:50,860 Guardrails on America's roads are typically tested against 2416 02:18:50,860 --> 02:18:54,040 vehicles weighing up to 5000 pounds, but many electric 2417 02:18:54,040 --> 02:18:57,460 vehicles weigh more than that, up to 30% more, in fact, and 2418 02:18:57,460 --> 02:19:00,600 that means most guardrails may not hold up in a collision. 2419 02:19:00,600 --> 02:19:03,780 Chris Van Cleave shows us the consequences could be deadly. 2420 02:19:04,680 --> 02:19:08,100 More than 19,000 people died in crashes where their vehicle left 2421 02:19:08,100 --> 02:19:11,220 the roadway last year. That's nearly half of all traffic 2422 02:19:11,220 --> 02:19:14,580 deaths. Guardrails and similar roadway barriers are designed to 2423 02:19:14,580 --> 02:19:18,900 reduce the number and severity of these crashes. This is how a 2424 02:19:18,900 --> 02:19:21,620 guardrail is supposed to work, containing a vehicle and 2425 02:19:21,620 --> 02:19:24,740 redirecting it back towards the road. Watch what happened 2426 02:19:26,600 --> 02:19:29,540 Adam Curry: exploding here. What's happening? Stop. Sorry 2427 02:19:29,540 --> 02:19:30,140 about that. 2428 02:19:31,699 --> 02:19:34,519 Unknown: Got a runaway board a roadway barriers are designed to 2429 02:19:34,519 --> 02:19:38,839 reduce the number and severity of these crashes. This is how a 2430 02:19:38,839 --> 02:19:41,559 guardrail is supposed to work, containing a vehicle and 2431 02:19:41,559 --> 02:19:44,919 redirecting it back towards the road, but watch what happens 2432 02:19:44,919 --> 02:19:49,599 when an electric sedan hits a standard guardrail during this 2433 02:19:49,599 --> 02:19:52,719 new testing from the Texas Transportation Institute, the 2434 02:19:52,719 --> 02:19:56,199 guardrail fails as the sedan rips through the Insurance 2435 02:19:56,199 --> 02:19:59,739 Institute for Highway Safety says it is concerned about EVs 2436 02:19:59,739 --> 02:20:02,819 and. Additional weight resulting in more severe crashes, a 2437 02:20:02,819 --> 02:20:06,479 concern NTSB chair Jennifer homendy told CBS News she 2438 02:20:06,479 --> 02:20:07,259 shares, I 2439 02:20:07,260 --> 02:20:10,740 Bag: think it does present significant challenges for 2440 02:20:10,740 --> 02:20:12,300 safety. In March, Senator 2441 02:20:12,300 --> 02:20:15,360 Unknown: Fischer asked chair homody about EVs and guardrails 2442 02:20:15,360 --> 02:20:16,980 during a Senate hearing. Our 2443 02:20:17,040 --> 02:20:21,140 guardrails crash attenuators, they are rated up to 5000 2444 02:20:21,500 --> 02:20:25,400 pounds. Many of these vehicles go up to 10,000 pounds, so that 2445 02:20:25,400 --> 02:20:27,380 has an impact on safety. 2446 02:20:27,560 --> 02:20:31,580 The EPA estimates half of all new car sales could be EVs by 2447 02:20:31,640 --> 02:20:36,380 2032 not much time to raise the bar on roadside safety barriers. 2448 02:20:36,380 --> 02:20:36,500 Yeah, 2449 02:20:36,500 --> 02:20:38,720 Adam Curry: that's the first thing that has to change, is 2450 02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:42,460 this. EPA. You know, the reason this is happening is because of 2451 02:20:42,460 --> 02:20:47,080 the the emission standards, which make it almost mandatory 2452 02:20:47,080 --> 02:20:51,700 for automobile manufacturers to create a certain number of 2453 02:20:51,760 --> 02:20:54,880 electric vehicles in their fleet, even if they lose money 2454 02:20:54,880 --> 02:20:58,540 on it, so they can just sell regular cars to people who want 2455 02:20:58,540 --> 02:21:01,020 to just Have a good vehicle, yeah, 2456 02:21:01,020 --> 02:21:03,960 John C Dvorak: a reliable vehicle that that started fill 2457 02:21:03,960 --> 02:21:08,760 up, you can recharge at a gas station in like 10, five 2458 02:21:08,760 --> 02:21:11,460 minutes, as opposed to an hour. Yeah, 2459 02:21:11,940 --> 02:21:14,700 Adam Curry: and it doesn't ignite and burn for days if you 2460 02:21:14,700 --> 02:21:17,760 crash it through the guardrail, which won't hold back. No, none 2461 02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:22,280 of this is good. So dumb. Bo it's Elon. It's sexy. It's 2462 02:21:22,280 --> 02:21:26,540 great, man. You hear about this warlord, this Chechen warlord, 2463 02:21:27,560 --> 02:21:31,400 who bought a cyber truck, he says that Elon gave it to him, 2464 02:21:31,640 --> 02:21:36,740 which I totally believe, and and then he remotely disabled it, 2465 02:21:38,540 --> 02:21:39,920 which is quite telling. 2466 02:21:41,120 --> 02:21:44,740 John C Dvorak: But Elon gave him a cyber truck and then disabled 2467 02:21:44,740 --> 02:21:47,860 it. So the Chechen warlord was like a waste of money. The 2468 02:21:47,860 --> 02:21:48,340 Chechen, 2469 02:21:48,340 --> 02:21:52,000 Adam Curry: well, the Chechen warlord, they've had lots of 2470 02:21:52,120 --> 02:21:56,140 these cyber trucks with machine guns mounted on the back. Lots 2471 02:21:56,140 --> 02:21:57,220 of, uh, lots 2472 02:21:57,220 --> 02:21:59,140 John C Dvorak: of guys bought these. That'd be kind of cool 2473 02:21:59,140 --> 02:21:59,440 looking. 2474 02:21:59,500 --> 02:22:01,620 Adam Curry: It does look cool. There's, I have photos of it in 2475 02:22:01,620 --> 02:22:05,340 this article. This is Zero Hedge article. So this Chechen warlord 2476 02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:10,020 said, Elon Musk did something ugly. He gave me this beautiful 2477 02:22:10,080 --> 02:22:13,680 cyber truck, then he disabled it. And of course, Elon the only 2478 02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:16,740 thing Elon is replying is, you think I gave a cyber truck to a 2479 02:22:16,740 --> 02:22:21,440 Chechen warlord? Well, that's not the story. The story is they 2480 02:22:21,440 --> 02:22:26,000 can be disabled by remote. I think every single Tesla can be 2481 02:22:26,000 --> 02:22:29,060 disabled by remote, yeah, of course, or taken over remotely 2482 02:22:29,060 --> 02:22:30,800 driven. Drive right 2483 02:22:30,800 --> 02:22:32,840 John C Dvorak: into a wall. Nobody. I 2484 02:22:32,840 --> 02:22:36,260 Adam Curry: just got a new you, like this guy, I just got a EULA 2485 02:22:36,260 --> 02:22:40,040 from my car. Like, Oh, we've done a software update. Well, 2486 02:22:40,040 --> 02:22:44,440 maybe I don't want that now. I gotta dig through this Ula, see 2487 02:22:44,440 --> 02:22:47,800 what they can do. But I'm sure that they're during 2488 02:22:47,800 --> 02:22:49,720 John C Dvorak: one of the hurricanes, if you recall in 2489 02:22:49,720 --> 02:22:52,360 Florida, when everyone's had these electric cars, they 2490 02:22:52,360 --> 02:22:55,780 couldn't charge they sent out a software upgrade. They gave them 2491 02:22:55,840 --> 02:22:59,080 an extra 100 miles of they could drive further. Yeah, 2492 02:22:59,080 --> 02:23:01,800 Adam Curry: now it works better. Here you go. Normally, that cost 2493 02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:05,700 you $20,000 here it is for free. You know what that is? Entropy, 2494 02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:09,600 John C Dvorak: all of it. Well, no, it's just the opposite. 2495 02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:10,140 Everything 2496 02:23:10,140 --> 02:23:12,360 Adam Curry: I'm saying now is going to be entropy. Yeah, 2497 02:23:12,360 --> 02:23:13,920 John C Dvorak: I know it's because, well, it's better than 2498 02:23:13,920 --> 02:23:15,240 some of the other stuff you've done. 2499 02:23:16,680 --> 02:23:18,900 Adam Curry: Gee, thanks. I mean, it's, it's the great 2500 02:23:18,900 --> 02:23:19,500 John C Dvorak: reveal. 2501 02:23:19,560 --> 02:23:22,640 Adam Curry: You've dropped that one. It's the season of reveal. 2502 02:23:22,640 --> 02:23:25,640 Well, the reason I like the great reveal, the reason I 2503 02:23:25,640 --> 02:23:28,160 stopped this because whenever I said it, you would go some 2504 02:23:28,160 --> 02:23:31,580 reveal. That's not a reveal. So I stopped it because, 2505 02:23:31,760 --> 02:23:35,600 John C Dvorak: you know your so I have to, so I have to carp, do 2506 02:23:35,600 --> 02:23:39,560 Adam Curry: you just have to say good one, Adam, that would be 2507 02:23:39,560 --> 02:23:40,040 helpful. 2508 02:23:41,420 --> 02:23:46,960 John C Dvorak: I say that all the time. Sure you do. I do your 2509 02:23:46,960 --> 02:23:49,660 last presentation, the last show, I complimented you 2510 02:23:49,660 --> 02:23:50,560 profusely. Thank 2511 02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:52,600 Adam Curry: you. Well, I will bring back the season of reveal, 2512 02:23:52,600 --> 02:23:53,740 because it hasn't stopped. 2513 02:23:53,740 --> 02:23:54,700 John C Dvorak: Oh, god no. 2514 02:23:57,820 --> 02:24:03,420 Adam Curry: So we can't have RFK Jr in the administration soon 2515 02:24:03,420 --> 02:24:07,380 enough, because, man, they're really going after beef now, 2516 02:24:07,440 --> 02:24:11,700 which is a real problem. You already heard Tedros, if you 2517 02:24:11,700 --> 02:24:15,240 recall a few shows back. The problem is beef. We must reduce 2518 02:24:15,240 --> 02:24:18,480 our intake of beef. It is not good. The beef, I don't know, 2519 02:24:18,480 --> 02:24:22,700 man, I look at Texas slim. Texas Slim's grandparents, all they 2520 02:24:22,700 --> 02:24:27,260 ate was beef and maybe a potato. They look pretty good. Everybody 2521 02:24:27,260 --> 02:24:30,620 looks slim and trim. And they worked out in the on the on the 2522 02:24:30,620 --> 02:24:35,360 ranch for 18 hours a day. And they liked it, and they and they 2523 02:24:35,360 --> 02:24:38,660 read their their Bible by candlelight at night when times 2524 02:24:38,660 --> 02:24:42,400 were good. But no, no. No, now we have to get rid of beef 2525 02:24:42,400 --> 02:24:44,620 because, well, due to climate change, do 2526 02:24:44,620 --> 02:24:47,620 Unknown: you know about meat fluencers? 2527 02:24:47,680 --> 02:24:49,900 Adam Curry: Do you know about meat fluencers? John, 2528 02:24:51,160 --> 02:24:54,700 Unknown: oh brother, no, I have not heard of that. This is 2529 02:24:57,400 --> 02:24:59,920 Adam Curry: NPR, in case you are wondering. Okay. 2530 02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:02,700 Unknown: Well, these are great online personalities and 2531 02:25:02,700 --> 02:25:06,720 celebrities often pushing the idea that men should eat lots of 2532 02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:07,800 meat. Often 2533 02:25:08,220 --> 02:25:10,980 Adam Curry: they're talking about you, I'm a meat 2534 02:25:10,980 --> 02:25:14,040 influencer. I'm totally are, well, I don't quite fit the 2535 02:25:14,040 --> 02:25:16,380 bill, because I don't have the body build that you that you're 2536 02:25:16,380 --> 02:25:19,380 supposed to have. But this is like, Yeah, this is like, Texas 2537 02:25:19,380 --> 02:25:24,620 slim who was anything but, but a beefed up dude. This is like the 2538 02:25:24,620 --> 02:25:27,980 meat mafia boys, our friends the meat mafia. They're all meat 2539 02:25:27,980 --> 02:25:29,120 fluencers, lots 2540 02:25:29,120 --> 02:25:33,380 Unknown: of meat, often lots of red meat, beef to live up to 2541 02:25:33,380 --> 02:25:36,560 their potential. Some of them are actually selling beef 2542 02:25:36,560 --> 02:25:44,860 products, including supplements made of beef meat. Some of them 2543 02:25:44,860 --> 02:25:49,300 don't just promote the benefits of eating lots of red meat. Some 2544 02:25:49,300 --> 02:25:52,960 of them spread false and misleading views about eating 2545 02:25:52,960 --> 02:25:54,160 certain plants. How 2546 02:25:54,160 --> 02:25:57,160 Adam Curry: can a view be false and misleading? Isn't that just 2547 02:25:57,160 --> 02:25:57,940 your view? 2548 02:25:58,840 --> 02:26:00,540 John C Dvorak: A misleading view? 2549 02:26:00,540 --> 02:26:03,360 Adam Curry: Yeah, view, view, particularly 2550 02:26:03,900 --> 02:26:04,740 Unknown: these guys, 2551 02:26:05,940 --> 02:26:08,520 Adam Curry: come on, man. This is good stuff. This is, this is 2552 02:26:08,520 --> 02:26:09,480 gold. Them 2553 02:26:09,480 --> 02:26:12,720 Unknown: spread false and misleading views about eating 2554 02:26:12,720 --> 02:26:17,220 certain plants, particularly soy, including the idea that, 2555 02:26:19,260 --> 02:26:21,920 Adam Curry: yeah, they're gonna tell me that it's it's mean, 2556 02:26:21,920 --> 02:26:23,840 it's mean if you make fun of soy, 2557 02:26:23,900 --> 02:26:28,280 Unknown: particularly soy, including the idea that soy can 2558 02:26:28,280 --> 02:26:29,840 feminize men. 2559 02:26:29,960 --> 02:26:31,340 Adam Curry: Is this true? John, 2560 02:26:32,180 --> 02:26:37,640 John C Dvorak: well, you know, there is an estrogen analog in 2561 02:26:37,640 --> 02:26:43,840 soy oil that I believe makes men grow breasts. Here's 2562 02:26:43,840 --> 02:26:46,540 Unknown: Joe Rogan describing that for you. Soy 2563 02:26:46,540 --> 02:26:49,000 is one of the rare foods that's actually attached to being a 2564 02:26:49,000 --> 02:26:49,540 bitch. 2565 02:26:49,900 --> 02:26:54,280 Some men are afraid of consuming soy. It has a stigma. There's 2566 02:26:54,280 --> 02:26:58,540 even a derogatory term for weak men called soy boys. It's a 2567 02:26:58,540 --> 02:27:00,040 pretty popular term. 2568 02:27:00,400 --> 02:27:05,160 I have not heard the term soy boy. What? Okay, 2569 02:27:05,220 --> 02:27:09,900 John C Dvorak: hold on. This is NPR. Stop the clip. You have not 2570 02:27:09,900 --> 02:27:13,500 heard the word soy boy. Get off the air. 2571 02:27:13,740 --> 02:27:17,100 Unknown: Researchers say changing diets will require new 2572 02:27:17,100 --> 02:27:18,000 messaging. 2573 02:27:18,480 --> 02:27:19,920 Listen up. America, meat 2574 02:27:20,280 --> 02:27:23,360 has problems, and it's gonna take us meat eaters to solve. 2575 02:27:24,920 --> 02:27:26,120 This guy in 2576 02:27:26,120 --> 02:27:32,300 the ad, he looks kind of like a big, burly man, and he's walking 2577 02:27:32,300 --> 02:27:34,280 around aggressively, you 2578 02:27:34,280 --> 02:27:37,220 Adam Curry: know, I'd rather have the AI podcast than these 2579 02:27:37,220 --> 02:27:40,480 two. I'll be straight up honest with you, this is this is 2580 02:27:40,480 --> 02:27:45,640 painful, and it's on NPR, our national treasure. Exactly, 2581 02:27:45,640 --> 02:27:48,880 Unknown: he was slapping a beef hamburger out of some guy's 2582 02:27:48,880 --> 02:27:52,540 hand. He replaced it with a plant based burger. Because this 2583 02:27:52,540 --> 02:27:56,020 is an ad for the plant based food company, Impossible Foods. 2584 02:27:56,200 --> 02:27:57,760 Okay, let's go on, because now 2585 02:27:57,760 --> 02:28:02,880 we can turn plants into burgers and hot dogs, even meatballs. 2586 02:28:03,180 --> 02:28:07,920 Then someone offers the main guy a helmet and he gets on a 2587 02:28:07,920 --> 02:28:09,240 motorcycle. We're solving 2588 02:28:09,240 --> 02:28:10,980 the meat problem with 2589 02:28:11,040 --> 02:28:15,720 more meat, impossible, meat from plants. He 2590 02:28:15,720 --> 02:28:20,040 gets on the motorcycle and he zooms off, exploding, exploding 2591 02:28:20,760 --> 02:28:25,220 to the horizon. I showed this Impossible Foods ad to Gabriel 2592 02:28:25,220 --> 02:28:28,100 Rosenberg. He's a professor of Gender Studies at Duke 2593 02:28:28,100 --> 02:28:28,880 University. There 2594 02:28:28,880 --> 02:28:34,160 Adam Curry: we go. There we go. A professor, there we go. We've 2595 02:28:34,160 --> 02:28:38,360 gone from meat to soy boys to gender studies. You know what 2596 02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:43,000 that is? Enjoy entropy, obviously, 2597 02:28:43,120 --> 02:28:46,540 Unknown: Gabriel specifically studies gender and food, and he 2598 02:28:46,540 --> 02:28:49,360 thinks there's some very important symbolism going on 2599 02:28:49,360 --> 02:28:49,720 gender. 2600 02:28:49,900 --> 02:28:53,020 John C Dvorak: And wait, so these guys are so hard up for 2601 02:28:53,020 --> 02:28:57,640 something to do, these gender professors that they're studying 2602 02:28:57,640 --> 02:29:02,160 gender and food, that's right. And they make it a course. Hey, 2603 02:29:02,160 --> 02:29:06,900 you would like, take gender and food 1010. Yeah. I want to take 2604 02:29:06,900 --> 02:29:09,420 that. I want to take gender and food. 2605 02:29:09,600 --> 02:29:12,000 Unknown: Is this, like, like, older figure of, like, 2606 02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:13,080 masculinity. He's 2607 02:29:13,080 --> 02:29:15,840 Adam Curry: teaching you how to be a man, and then he's, like, 2608 02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:20,360 explosively mural. It's basically just saying, men, you 2609 02:29:20,360 --> 02:29:24,380 have permission to eat our product and still be manly and 2610 02:29:24,380 --> 02:29:30,200 still be masculine. How? Why do you need a PhD in gender studies 2611 02:29:30,200 --> 02:29:34,700 to make that analysis? Anyway? Here's, here's the last part 2612 02:29:34,700 --> 02:29:37,280 Unknown: I got on a zoom with Peter McGinnis. He's the 2613 02:29:37,280 --> 02:29:39,800 president and CEO of Impossible Foods. You 2614 02:29:39,800 --> 02:29:42,340 Adam Curry: think this is some kind of native ad or some kind 2615 02:29:42,340 --> 02:29:43,240 of promotion. 2616 02:29:43,240 --> 02:29:45,340 John C Dvorak: Possible foods been mentioned at least three 2617 02:29:45,340 --> 02:29:46,480 times, maybe more. 2618 02:29:48,160 --> 02:29:49,600 Unknown: Yeah, yeah, yeah. This. 2619 02:29:49,660 --> 02:29:52,060 John C Dvorak: They paid for this. I think this is a paid for 2620 02:29:52,060 --> 02:29:55,420 native ad on NPR. We've we catch them all the time. I'm glad you 2621 02:29:55,420 --> 02:29:59,740 got this one. It's not It's sickening sickness. The 2622 02:29:59,740 --> 02:30:02,940 Unknown: main. One thing Peter found is that there were people 2623 02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:06,660 they weren't reaching customers who see plant based food and 2624 02:30:06,840 --> 02:30:09,060 think it isn't for them. So 2625 02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:11,940 Adam Curry: we got on, we got our sales team on the call to 2626 02:30:11,940 --> 02:30:14,460 talk to them, because, hey, we can help you reach your soy 2627 02:30:14,460 --> 02:30:19,020 boys. That's our demo, right here. NPR listeners are soy 2628 02:30:19,020 --> 02:30:22,520 boys. They'll love your product will do a whole special for you. 2629 02:30:22,520 --> 02:30:22,760 They 2630 02:30:22,760 --> 02:30:26,840 Unknown: see it as food for vegans and vegetarians. Peter 2631 02:30:26,840 --> 02:30:29,780 wants it to be more inclusive. That really means more meat 2632 02:30:29,780 --> 02:30:34,100 eaters to reach more of them. Peter says they needed to change 2633 02:30:34,100 --> 02:30:35,660 the branding. I think we 2634 02:30:35,660 --> 02:30:38,360 had the messaging wrong for a long, long time on all this 2635 02:30:38,360 --> 02:30:38,720 stuff. 2636 02:30:40,280 --> 02:30:42,160 John C Dvorak: Wait, this is the excuse for the effect of their 2637 02:30:42,160 --> 02:30:47,800 sales suck because their product sucks this terrible tasting that 2638 02:30:47,800 --> 02:30:51,640 we have bad messaging, yeah, we weren't able to bullshit the 2639 02:30:51,640 --> 02:30:52,540 public enough. 2640 02:30:52,840 --> 02:30:56,260 Unknown: Impossible Foods was founded to help curb climate 2641 02:30:56,260 --> 02:30:59,740 change, to reduce that huge amount of climate to 2642 02:31:00,040 --> 02:31:01,740 John C Dvorak: curb climate change. 2643 02:31:03,420 --> 02:31:06,300 Adam Curry: I drink to curb climate change from 2644 02:31:06,360 --> 02:31:10,320 Unknown: animal agriculture, but Peter says in their advertising, 2645 02:31:10,380 --> 02:31:12,540 they are not leaning into climate 2646 02:31:12,660 --> 02:31:15,300 Yeah, because, you know, climate change, like so many other 2647 02:31:15,300 --> 02:31:20,600 things, has become politicized and kind of a part of the 2648 02:31:20,600 --> 02:31:22,280 culture wars. It's 2649 02:31:22,700 --> 02:31:26,180 and Peter doesn't want his customers to associate his 2650 02:31:26,180 --> 02:31:27,560 product with politics at 2651 02:31:27,560 --> 02:31:29,960 all. Please. 2652 02:31:30,020 --> 02:31:33,680 We don't want anything partisan political weird the 2653 02:31:34,340 --> 02:31:36,920 Adam Curry: packaging. He doesn't want Republicans eating 2654 02:31:36,920 --> 02:31:37,100 it 2655 02:31:37,220 --> 02:31:39,920 Unknown: often associated with environmentalists to red 2656 02:31:40,400 --> 02:31:43,960 so it looks like red meat, so we're leaning into that, right? 2657 02:31:43,960 --> 02:31:45,460 All those meat cues, 2658 02:31:45,760 --> 02:31:49,840 right? They want to make a cute tent to welcome meat eaters. But 2659 02:31:49,840 --> 02:31:53,260 psychology researchers say ads like this are important. They 2660 02:31:53,260 --> 02:31:56,980 can broaden social acceptance for plant based foods, to shift 2661 02:31:56,980 --> 02:32:02,820 diets away from beef. Shifting social norms will be key. Wow. 2662 02:32:03,960 --> 02:32:10,740 Adam Curry: There you go. Your national treasure at work. Well, 2663 02:32:10,740 --> 02:32:13,680 that sucked. Oh, it didn't suck. 2664 02:32:14,280 --> 02:32:18,180 John C Dvorak: Oh, these people are destroying the world as 2665 02:32:18,180 --> 02:32:18,900 entropy. 2666 02:32:20,940 --> 02:32:25,280 Adam Curry: That is indeed a NPR is a perfect example of entropy. 2667 02:32:25,640 --> 02:32:29,360 Meanwhile, the New World Order is meeting this week in New 2668 02:32:29,360 --> 02:32:33,680 York. It's a big deal. Big. Big deal. We got the UN General 2669 02:32:33,740 --> 02:32:40,480 Assembly. Actually, there was an interesting report on TRT, which 2670 02:32:40,780 --> 02:32:43,600 was like some kind of predictive programming. This 2671 02:32:43,600 --> 02:32:46,180 Unknown: year's UN General Assembly will see upwards of 142 2672 02:32:47,020 --> 02:32:50,380 world leaders in New York City all at once. It will be 2673 02:32:50,380 --> 02:32:53,560 surrounded by an unprecedented massive security blanket of 2674 02:32:53,560 --> 02:32:57,160 heavily armed police, Secret Service and Diplomatic Security 2675 02:32:57,160 --> 02:33:02,280 agents the assassination attempts on former President 2676 02:33:02,280 --> 02:33:05,220 Donald Trump have impacted the already heightened security 2677 02:33:05,220 --> 02:33:06,960 measures in place. The Department 2678 02:33:06,960 --> 02:33:10,380 of Homeland Security has given it the designation of national 2679 02:33:10,380 --> 02:33:11,640 special security event. 2680 02:33:13,980 --> 02:33:16,620 What's changed from this year from last year is obviously 2681 02:33:16,620 --> 02:33:17,700 October 7, there 2682 02:33:18,360 --> 02:33:21,080 have been more than 4000 protests in New York City 2683 02:33:21,080 --> 02:33:25,040 against Israel's breeder war on Gaza since last October, it has 2684 02:33:25,040 --> 02:33:29,180 also changed the dynamic of the security inside the UN with the 2685 02:33:29,180 --> 02:33:32,360 expected arrival of President Joe Biden, Israeli Prime 2686 02:33:32,360 --> 02:33:35,780 Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Palestinian President Mahmoud 2687 02:33:35,780 --> 02:33:39,260 Abbas and Ukraine's President Vladimir Zelinsky. Attacks on 2688 02:33:39,260 --> 02:33:41,920 the UN building here have been rare, but the most notable 2689 02:33:41,920 --> 02:33:46,840 occurring in 1964 when a bazooka was fired from across the East 2690 02:33:46,840 --> 02:33:50,980 River here during a speech by Che Guevara of Cuba in the 2691 02:33:50,980 --> 02:33:55,300 General Assembly Hall. Now the bazooka shell fell short about 2692 02:33:55,300 --> 02:33:59,260 180 meters from the shoreline here, but the diplomats inside 2693 02:33:59,260 --> 02:34:00,660 this building were rattled. 2694 02:34:01,380 --> 02:34:04,140 Adam Curry: Man, I never heard about, I never heard about the 2695 02:34:04,140 --> 02:34:06,300 bazooka shot from across the river. 2696 02:34:07,560 --> 02:34:09,840 John C Dvorak: I'm older than you, and I never heard of it, 2697 02:34:10,440 --> 02:34:10,680 but 2698 02:34:10,680 --> 02:34:13,380 Adam Curry: it really, it really, kind of got my mind 2699 02:34:13,380 --> 02:34:17,340 thinking, you know, like, what if everyone's a cell phone just, 2700 02:34:17,460 --> 02:34:19,500 John C Dvorak: Oh, I see what you're saying. This predictive 2701 02:34:19,500 --> 02:34:22,700 programming so somebody's gonna do something. Wow. What a 2702 02:34:22,700 --> 02:34:26,120 perfect and we're gonna be some of you, okay, yeah. Well, this 2703 02:34:26,120 --> 02:34:30,740 happened before it has, yeah, they just said, No, 2704 02:34:30,920 --> 02:34:33,320 Adam Curry: the bazooka, yeah, but it was unsuccessful that 2705 02:34:33,320 --> 02:34:34,160 dropped. It 2706 02:34:34,160 --> 02:34:36,500 John C Dvorak: may not even happen for all I know. I don't 2707 02:34:36,500 --> 02:34:37,880 remember anything about it. 2708 02:34:40,160 --> 02:34:43,420 Adam Curry: I mean, it's, what a perfect place to change landed 2709 02:34:43,420 --> 02:34:46,660 John C Dvorak: in the drink. I mean, come on, what a perfect 2710 02:34:46,660 --> 02:34:53,440 place. How they know is a bazooka. Well, that's, uh, all 2711 02:34:53,440 --> 02:34:55,420 right, I guess we have to do some research on the show 2712 02:34:55,420 --> 02:34:55,960 bazooka 2713 02:34:56,020 --> 02:35:03,480 Adam Curry: attack. UN building 19. 64 let's see bazooka fired 2714 02:35:03,480 --> 02:35:06,120 it. Yeah, there it is. The New York Times does 2715 02:35:06,120 --> 02:35:08,280 John C Dvorak: mean it hasn't been placed after the fact 2716 02:35:09,960 --> 02:35:12,600 Adam Curry: it is. I have the printed article in The New York 2717 02:35:12,600 --> 02:35:17,340 Times archive. Even better, Bazooka fired at UN as Cuban 2718 02:35:17,340 --> 02:35:21,320 speaks, launched in Queens, missile explodes in East River. 2719 02:35:21,740 --> 02:35:26,540 About that. Can you imagine how, how history would change? I 2720 02:35:26,540 --> 02:35:31,100 mean, they can't stop a drone. Think about it. That would 2721 02:35:31,100 --> 02:35:32,420 really change history. 2722 02:35:33,560 --> 02:35:35,480 John C Dvorak: Well, you can have a drone, yeah, the drone 2723 02:35:35,480 --> 02:35:38,780 thing has not hit this country yet. It's bound to, let's face 2724 02:35:38,780 --> 02:35:39,020 it, 2725 02:35:41,120 --> 02:35:43,660 Adam Curry: no, but that is the future. It's the future of 2726 02:35:43,660 --> 02:35:44,980 asymmetric warfare. 2727 02:35:45,040 --> 02:35:48,640 Unknown: The UN Security Council met in New York to discuss the 2728 02:35:48,640 --> 02:35:52,480 crisis in the Middle East after four days of intensive Israeli 2729 02:35:52,480 --> 02:35:55,660 attacks on Hezbollah, the organization's human rights 2730 02:35:55,660 --> 02:35:58,960 chief, Volker Turk, said he was appalled by what he called the 2731 02:35:58,960 --> 02:36:02,400 indiscriminate targeting of 1000s of people in Lebanon 2732 02:36:02,640 --> 02:36:05,460 through the explosions of communication devices, and said 2733 02:36:05,460 --> 02:36:07,080 it violated international law. 2734 02:36:07,320 --> 02:36:11,220 International humanitarian law prohibits the use of booby trap 2735 02:36:11,220 --> 02:36:14,880 devices in the form of apparently harmless, portable 2736 02:36:14,880 --> 02:36:18,360 objects. Well, that's no fun which are specifically designed 2737 02:36:18,360 --> 02:36:22,820 and constructed to contain explosive material, it is a war 2738 02:36:22,820 --> 02:36:27,560 crime to commit violence intended to spread terror among 2739 02:36:27,560 --> 02:36:31,880 civilians. I call again for an independent, thorough and 2740 02:36:31,880 --> 02:36:35,660 transparent investigation into the circumstances of these 2741 02:36:35,660 --> 02:36:39,260 explosions. Those who ordered and carried out these attacks 2742 02:36:39,320 --> 02:36:41,080 must be held to account please. 2743 02:36:41,440 --> 02:36:44,440 The Under Secretary General for Political Affairs, Rosemary 2744 02:36:44,440 --> 02:36:47,860 DiCarlo, said that it wasn't too late for diplomacy. The 2745 02:36:47,860 --> 02:36:52,600 risk to security and stability, not only in Lebanon, but also in 2746 02:36:52,600 --> 02:36:57,520 the region, could not be clearer or graver. The Secretary General 2747 02:36:57,520 --> 02:37:01,800 has already expressed his deep alarm over these events, I echo 2748 02:37:01,800 --> 02:37:06,360 his sentiments and strongly urge all actors to exercise maximum 2749 02:37:06,360 --> 02:37:09,720 restraint to avert any further escalation. Yeah, 2750 02:37:09,720 --> 02:37:12,840 Adam Curry: they're worried about themselves. I'm telling 2751 02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:16,560 you, it wouldn't be hard to inject something into a whole 2752 02:37:16,560 --> 02:37:24,740 new series of iPhones or anything. I think they're taking 2753 02:37:24,740 --> 02:37:26,000 it very lightly this. 2754 02:37:28,760 --> 02:37:32,300 John C Dvorak: Well, you might be right. I mean, yeah, all you 2755 02:37:32,300 --> 02:37:34,760 need is a man in the middle. You need somebody just to get to, 2756 02:37:34,820 --> 02:37:38,060 you know, somebody in between China. Anybody's phones. 2757 02:37:38,420 --> 02:37:39,920 Adam Curry: These things are made in China. 2758 02:37:41,480 --> 02:37:44,500 John C Dvorak: Hello. Yeah, well, you can just do it from 2759 02:37:44,500 --> 02:37:47,080 the factory. Then if you want, that's what I think, 2760 02:37:48,400 --> 02:37:49,240 Bag: definitely, 2761 02:37:51,340 --> 02:37:55,960 John C Dvorak: for all we know, every iPhone out there, for all 2762 02:37:55,960 --> 02:38:03,480 we know, already rigged is pre rigged. Yep, you can't unless 2763 02:38:03,480 --> 02:38:05,580 you can, you take the battery out. Can you just drop the 2764 02:38:05,580 --> 02:38:09,240 battery out and you find out? No, no, no, not on Well, that's 2765 02:38:09,240 --> 02:38:15,000 an interesting coincidence. The phone I have in a drawer, you 2766 02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:18,780 can take the battery out. You have to, because it dies after a 2767 02:38:18,780 --> 02:38:21,680 couple of years in the drawer. New batteries. I've 2768 02:38:21,680 --> 02:38:25,100 Adam Curry: got the pixel six with the graphene OS, I can take 2769 02:38:25,100 --> 02:38:26,960 the battery out. Yeah, 2770 02:38:29,720 --> 02:38:31,820 John C Dvorak: I still, I've seen all these different videos 2771 02:38:31,820 --> 02:38:35,000 I have yet to see anyone explain the triggering mechanism, 2772 02:38:36,320 --> 02:38:38,780 talking about, oh, you got a little Semtech in the back 2773 02:38:38,780 --> 02:38:41,980 there, a little bit. You don't even need much, and it's in the 2774 02:38:41,980 --> 02:38:43,120 behind a battery. 2775 02:38:43,180 --> 02:38:46,420 Adam Curry: There's still, you know, there's still some 2776 02:38:46,420 --> 02:38:48,820 theories out there, and I wish we would hear about it. I mean, 2777 02:38:48,820 --> 02:38:51,580 they kind of went away from the story. There's still some 2778 02:38:51,580 --> 02:38:56,440 theories that it was Petn or Semtex in a battery. 2779 02:38:58,900 --> 02:39:03,060 John C Dvorak: Believe, yeah, could be that, but, but if it's 2780 02:39:03,060 --> 02:39:05,940 in the battery, how do you trigger it? How do you how do 2781 02:39:05,940 --> 02:39:09,480 you have the explosion take place at the same time? Besides, 2782 02:39:09,480 --> 02:39:12,060 maybe it was the caught, you know, the rays from the solar 2783 02:39:12,060 --> 02:39:15,600 flare, which is an interesting thesis, because it did happen on 2784 02:39:15,600 --> 02:39:18,840 the day that you lost your connection to Starling. 2785 02:39:18,900 --> 02:39:21,320 Adam Curry: I'm not sure how the solar flare would, would affect 2786 02:39:21,320 --> 02:39:25,160 it, but it would, it could, anything is possible, but we, 2787 02:39:25,160 --> 02:39:25,700 but we don't 2788 02:39:25,700 --> 02:39:28,400 John C Dvorak: know, what is the mechanism for exploding these 2789 02:39:28,400 --> 02:39:29,480 phones? Yeah, 2790 02:39:29,540 --> 02:39:33,380 Adam Curry: I don't know the phone. I mean, it's it, I mean, 2791 02:39:33,380 --> 02:39:37,640 you triggers. Look, there's lots of external pins that you can 2792 02:39:38,000 --> 02:39:41,200 you can make go hot. You can bring up a PIN. You know, that 2793 02:39:41,380 --> 02:39:44,920 is, you know, haptic there's, there's haptics in the there's 2794 02:39:44,920 --> 02:39:48,100 vibration. These are motors, there's energy. So you can do 2795 02:39:48,100 --> 02:39:49,360 all kinds of stuff with that. 2796 02:39:51,280 --> 02:39:53,920 John C Dvorak: I would like to know exactly how you can make it 2797 02:39:53,920 --> 02:39:54,880 a phone explode. Well, I 2798 02:39:54,880 --> 02:39:59,140 Adam Curry: think you should talk to unit 8200 they seem is 2799 02:39:59,140 --> 02:40:04,440 that 8200 The Israel or 8400 the Israel is 8600 Yeah, whatever. 2800 02:40:05,280 --> 02:40:09,480 It's the Jews. John, hello, it's obvious. We all know who did it. 2801 02:40:11,940 --> 02:40:14,880 John C Dvorak: I would just like, I've seen all these guys 2802 02:40:14,880 --> 02:40:18,480 yakking about this and the No one says, explain how it works. 2803 02:40:20,940 --> 02:40:21,440 Well, 2804 02:40:23,720 --> 02:40:25,280 Adam Curry: Trump spoke to the Jews. 2805 02:40:27,380 --> 02:40:30,980 John C Dvorak: Yes, he and of course, the right left wingers 2806 02:40:30,980 --> 02:40:35,180 went on and on about how Trump's going to blame the Jews. Here it 2807 02:40:35,180 --> 02:40:35,780 is. Trump 2808 02:40:35,780 --> 02:40:38,300 Unknown: has said Jews who support Democrats, quote, have 2809 02:40:38,300 --> 02:40:41,800 to have their head examined, and claimed Harris doesn't like 2810 02:40:41,920 --> 02:40:45,700 Jewish people today. Harris's husband, second gentleman, Doug 2811 02:40:45,700 --> 02:40:48,880 emhoff, himself Jewish responding in an interview with 2812 02:40:48,880 --> 02:40:50,740 ABC Michael Strahan, he 2813 02:40:50,740 --> 02:40:55,540 said this quote, she doesn't like Jewish people, and you like 2814 02:40:55,540 --> 02:40:59,440 me, you're Jewish American. So what was your reaction when you 2815 02:40:59,440 --> 02:41:01,020 heard that in real time. 2816 02:41:01,260 --> 02:41:05,460 So it's typical Donald Trump gaslighting. So he is 2817 02:41:05,460 --> 02:41:07,860 gaslighting somebody who is, how's 2818 02:41:09,420 --> 02:41:10,740 that gaslighting? 2819 02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:14,400 Adam Curry: Well, in context of the Jews, it's a pretty 2820 02:41:14,400 --> 02:41:17,760 interesting quote. Oh, 2821 02:41:19,260 --> 02:41:23,480 Unknown: so it's typical Donald Trump gaslighting. So he is 2822 02:41:24,560 --> 02:41:28,280 somebody who has had dinner with known anti Semites after the 2823 02:41:28,280 --> 02:41:30,800 horrific events of Charlottesville, where people 2824 02:41:30,800 --> 02:41:34,280 are actually marching with Tiki torches saying Jews shall not 2825 02:41:34,280 --> 02:41:37,460 replace us. And he said there were fine people on both sides 2826 02:41:37,460 --> 02:41:39,620 of that lie. 2827 02:41:40,340 --> 02:41:43,600 Adam Curry: There's the big lie. And he said there are very fine 2828 02:41:43,600 --> 02:41:44,800 people on both sides 2829 02:41:44,800 --> 02:41:47,500 Unknown: place us. And he said there were fine people on both 2830 02:41:47,500 --> 02:41:50,740 sides of that. This is a guy who has, can 2831 02:41:50,740 --> 02:41:52,120 John C Dvorak: they keep doing that? 2832 02:41:52,660 --> 02:41:56,740 Adam Curry: Well, because it's easy and and the only people who 2833 02:41:56,740 --> 02:42:00,540 say that's a lie is some two old dudes on a podcast who have hot 2834 02:42:00,540 --> 02:42:01,200 takes, 2835 02:42:01,440 --> 02:42:04,680 John C Dvorak: even Snopes says it's a lie, yeah, but 2836 02:42:04,680 --> 02:42:08,100 Adam Curry: this is the football guy on on ABC. He's not gonna 2837 02:42:08,100 --> 02:42:13,680 say, Hey, man, that's a lie. No, the all of the media is skewed. 2838 02:42:13,680 --> 02:42:17,040 It's all a lie. It's all it should not be watched. It's not 2839 02:42:17,040 --> 02:42:19,380 for it's not fit for consumption. It's like 2840 02:42:19,380 --> 02:42:20,840 impossible meat had 2841 02:42:20,840 --> 02:42:24,200 Unknown: a record of saying incredibly vile anti semitic 2842 02:42:24,200 --> 02:42:30,260 things. So for him to say that I just Yeah, trolls 2843 02:42:30,260 --> 02:42:34,100 Adam Curry: make a good point that what he just did there is 2844 02:42:34,100 --> 02:42:35,840 literally gaslighting, 2845 02:42:37,100 --> 02:42:39,020 John C Dvorak: right? That's gaslighting, but you say, oh, 2846 02:42:39,080 --> 02:42:42,700 there it is. The old you are what I say. I am what I say. You 2847 02:42:42,700 --> 02:42:43,720 are what yourself being 2848 02:42:43,720 --> 02:42:45,160 Adam Curry: yourself but your corporate health, 2849 02:42:45,400 --> 02:42:48,100 Unknown: marching with Tiki torches, saying Jews shall not 2850 02:42:48,100 --> 02:42:51,340 replace us. And he said there were fine people on both sides 2851 02:42:51,340 --> 02:42:56,500 of that. This is a guy who has had a record of saying 2852 02:42:56,500 --> 02:43:01,680 incredibly vile anti semitic things. So for him to say that, 2853 02:43:03,000 --> 02:43:05,640 Adam Curry: what vile anti semitic things has he said 2854 02:43:07,260 --> 02:43:09,180 John C Dvorak: there are fine people on both sides. Okay, 2855 02:43:09,960 --> 02:43:16,680 Unknown: so for him to say that, I just almost laugh at the 2856 02:43:16,680 --> 02:43:18,300 chutzpah, as we would say 2857 02:43:20,460 --> 02:43:23,960 Yiddish there. Now, while Harris's event with Oprah here 2858 02:43:23,960 --> 02:43:26,720 in Detroit is aimed at a broader audience, her campaign is well 2859 02:43:26,720 --> 02:43:30,380 aware of just how critical this state is. A new Quinnipiac poll 2860 02:43:30,380 --> 02:43:33,380 shows Harris leading slightly here in Michigan, 50 to 45% 2861 02:43:34,580 --> 02:43:37,820 Adam Curry: Meanwhile, at the latest Trump rally, he's got 2862 02:43:37,820 --> 02:43:40,780 some new stick to motivate people to go out and vote. Have 2863 02:43:40,780 --> 02:43:41,860 you heard his new stick? 2864 02:43:42,280 --> 02:43:44,980 John C Dvorak: No, I have not. We can do all ears. Okay, here, 2865 02:43:44,980 --> 02:43:45,760 it's very short, 2866 02:43:45,760 --> 02:43:47,680 Adam Curry: but you will like it. We can do 2867 02:43:47,680 --> 02:43:51,580 Unknown: all of this and more, but patriotic New Yorkers must 2868 02:43:51,580 --> 02:43:59,860 get your asses out to vote. Harry. Get up, Harry. Harry, get 2869 02:43:59,860 --> 02:44:03,840 your fat ass out of the couch. You're gonna vote for Trump 2870 02:44:03,840 --> 02:44:04,080 today. 2871 02:44:05,940 --> 02:44:07,800 Harry, get up. Harry, come on. Let's 2872 02:44:07,800 --> 02:44:10,800 go. Let's go. Harry, 2873 02:44:14,280 --> 02:44:16,620 John C Dvorak: actually have heard that's 2874 02:44:16,620 --> 02:44:19,260 Adam Curry: good. I hadn't heard that one yet. It's great. I like 2875 02:44:19,260 --> 02:44:22,520 it. I like it. Yeah, it's hilarious. They're 2876 02:44:22,520 --> 02:44:24,140 John C Dvorak: eating the dogs. Yeah, they 2877 02:44:24,140 --> 02:44:28,220 Adam Curry: are exactly. I don't know if you had a clip about 2878 02:44:28,220 --> 02:44:32,120 this, but I thought it was noteworthy. It seems to kind of 2879 02:44:32,120 --> 02:44:35,840 just being reported on in passing. It seems like a bigger 2880 02:44:35,840 --> 02:44:39,920 story to me. Actually, let me see, I think you have two clips. 2881 02:44:40,280 --> 02:44:44,080 Do you have the second moon? Do you have a second moon clip? 2882 02:44:44,260 --> 02:44:46,660 John C Dvorak: I have a two clips. And I have a, yeah, it's 2883 02:44:46,660 --> 02:44:50,500 a yikes series. Okay, there you go. Which means that there's 2884 02:44:50,500 --> 02:44:53,140 something. There's a piece of information in here that made me 2885 02:44:53,140 --> 02:44:54,100 go, yikes. 2886 02:44:54,340 --> 02:44:58,360 Unknown: Earth has a new visitor in space. It's an asteroid named 2887 02:44:58,420 --> 02:45:01,320 2024 Pete. E5 catchy 2888 02:45:01,440 --> 02:45:04,680 as the asteroid was whizzing by on its path around the sun, the 2889 02:45:04,680 --> 02:45:07,740 Earth's gravity disrupted it, and the space rock and the earth 2890 02:45:07,800 --> 02:45:10,980 are now in a fleeting gravitational dance. Scientists 2891 02:45:10,980 --> 02:45:14,460 spotted the space rock last month using a telescope in South 2892 02:45:14,460 --> 02:45:18,300 Africa. That telescope is part of the NASA funded asteroid 2893 02:45:18,300 --> 02:45:22,400 terrestrial impact last alert system. And while that name 2894 02:45:22,400 --> 02:45:26,060 sounds pretty dire, there's no need to worry. This asteroid is 2895 02:45:26,060 --> 02:45:28,280 not on a collision course with Earth. 2896 02:45:28,580 --> 02:45:30,740 Adam Curry: What is what's the acronym to that? Hold on a 2897 02:45:30,740 --> 02:45:31,160 second. I'll 2898 02:45:31,160 --> 02:45:33,620 Unknown: dance. Scientists spotted the space rock last 2899 02:45:33,620 --> 02:45:37,760 month using a telescope in South Africa. That telescope is part 2900 02:45:37,760 --> 02:45:41,620 of the NASA funded asteroid terrestrial impact last alert 2901 02:45:41,620 --> 02:45:44,980 system and, well, that name sounds pretty Attila. 2902 02:45:46,120 --> 02:45:48,760 Adam Curry: Now there's NASA guys. Okay, so what was the 2903 02:45:48,760 --> 02:45:49,360 Yikes? 2904 02:45:51,700 --> 02:45:56,020 John C Dvorak: They spotted this asteroid just a month ago. How 2905 02:45:56,020 --> 02:45:59,620 much time would that give you if it was headed right to Earth? 30 2906 02:45:59,620 --> 02:46:03,540 days? They can't get these guys off the shuttle that went up, 2907 02:46:03,540 --> 02:46:06,060 the Boeing shuttle that went up and dropped these people off, 2908 02:46:06,060 --> 02:46:10,860 they couldn't even bring them back. And we got 30 days. Yeah, 2909 02:46:10,860 --> 02:46:15,420 yeah. They had this whole system in place to look for asteroids 2910 02:46:15,540 --> 02:46:20,100 headed for Earth. And they got, they spotted this thing 30 days 2911 02:46:20,100 --> 02:46:20,580 ago. 2912 02:46:21,240 --> 02:46:24,320 Adam Curry: Yeah, maybe, maybe it's time for Mythbusters to 2913 02:46:24,320 --> 02:46:26,720 come in. I don't know. I don't think they know anything. 2914 02:46:27,980 --> 02:46:29,840 John C Dvorak: Here's part two. They, at least they describe a 2915 02:46:29,840 --> 02:46:32,720 little bit more of the asteroids the size of a bus. Writing 2916 02:46:32,720 --> 02:46:34,880 Unknown: this month in the journal Research notes of the 2917 02:46:34,880 --> 02:46:38,780 American Astronomical Society, scientists estimate the asteroid 2918 02:46:38,780 --> 02:46:43,420 is 33 feet long, about the size of a bus, and sorry, backyard 2919 02:46:43,420 --> 02:46:46,480 astronomers, it'll be too small and dim to see with amateur 2920 02:46:46,480 --> 02:46:47,680 telescopes. And 2921 02:46:47,680 --> 02:46:51,160 while the space rock has picked up the nickname of a mini moon, 2922 02:46:51,160 --> 02:46:54,340 tracing a temporary arc around the Earth, there's some 2923 02:46:54,340 --> 02:46:57,820 disagreement whether it truly lives up to that title, because 2924 02:46:57,820 --> 02:47:01,020 it won't make a full orbit around our planet before 2925 02:47:01,020 --> 02:47:04,200 departing again in the coming months to continue its journey 2926 02:47:04,260 --> 02:47:05,040 around the sun. 2927 02:47:05,520 --> 02:47:10,500 Adam Curry: Wow. Kind of reminds me of that John Cullen guy, the 2928 02:47:10,500 --> 02:47:15,360 bird flu guy, no, yeah, that's the guy who said it was about 2929 02:47:15,360 --> 02:47:19,140 h1, 5n, or whatever. It wasn't, it wasn't about covid that. 2930 02:47:19,140 --> 02:47:24,200 That's why Trump was talking about 1917 instead of 1918 he 2931 02:47:24,200 --> 02:47:30,200 also has this whole whole theory that all of the emergency 2932 02:47:30,200 --> 02:47:33,680 hospitals were built because there were so many asteroids all 2933 02:47:33,680 --> 02:47:36,620 of a sudden flying around the earth that they expected one to 2934 02:47:36,620 --> 02:47:41,080 hit the Earth. He's got some pretty out there theories. 2935 02:47:41,740 --> 02:47:42,820 John C Dvorak: That's a good one. 2936 02:47:43,360 --> 02:47:47,200 Adam Curry: He's got some hot takes, speaking of speaking of 2937 02:47:47,200 --> 02:47:49,720 Boeing, who can't bring anybody back, Boeing's 2938 02:47:49,720 --> 02:47:52,120 Unknown: defense space and Security Division has a new 2939 02:47:52,120 --> 02:47:56,320 temporary president and CEO. The company ousted Theodore Colbert 2940 02:47:56,320 --> 02:47:59,560 and replaced him with Chief Operating Officer, Steve Parker. 2941 02:48:00,100 --> 02:48:03,540 Boeing has been under increased scrutiny after the Starliner 2942 02:48:03,540 --> 02:48:06,780 capsule experienced that thruster malfunction and 2943 02:48:06,780 --> 02:48:10,740 stranded two astronauts on the International Space Station. 2944 02:48:10,920 --> 02:48:15,720 Adam Curry: Yeah, bye. Can't bring our astronauts back. Can't 2945 02:48:15,720 --> 02:48:19,740 keep anything going. You're out. You're done, you're done, and 2946 02:48:21,300 --> 02:48:26,660 that Boeing strike still continues. When is Musk going to 2947 02:48:26,660 --> 02:48:29,720 announce that he's he's taking over all the Boeing business? 2948 02:48:30,740 --> 02:48:32,000 Douche: It's going to be a while, 2949 02:48:33,080 --> 02:48:33,920 Unknown: maybe. So 2950 02:48:33,920 --> 02:48:37,340 John C Dvorak: there's a the West Wing, the old TV show, 2951 02:48:37,400 --> 02:48:40,960 yeah. Well, they're bringing it back. At least they're bringing 2952 02:48:41,320 --> 02:48:42,580 the cash. It's 2953 02:48:42,580 --> 02:48:45,400 Adam Curry: the dream. This is what all Democrats want. They 2954 02:48:45,400 --> 02:48:48,760 want the White House to be like West Wing. That's the way it 2955 02:48:48,760 --> 02:48:50,680 should be. Was already brought. They 2956 02:48:50,680 --> 02:48:52,720 John C Dvorak: brought on an anniversary. They brought him to 2957 02:48:52,720 --> 02:48:56,560 the White House because Jill Biden, and if anyone has noticed 2958 02:48:56,560 --> 02:49:01,260 this seems to be running things that way. Woodrow Wilson's wife 2959 02:49:01,260 --> 02:49:06,180 did, in fact, she was at the Cabinet meeting, yes, and Joe 2960 02:49:06,180 --> 02:49:06,960 threw it to her. 2961 02:49:08,580 --> 02:49:13,440 Adam Curry: Is that in this clip? No, no, I actually have, I 2962 02:49:13,440 --> 02:49:17,760 thought I had a, I thought a clip of that. I didn't get the 2963 02:49:17,760 --> 02:49:21,860 Joe throwing it to her, but I got the explanation as to what 2964 02:49:21,860 --> 02:49:25,400 she was doing. Because, remember, she's a doctor, Jim, 2965 02:49:25,400 --> 02:49:25,820 Joe Biden, 2966 02:49:25,820 --> 02:49:28,460 Unknown: Dr Biden, the First Lady in attendance today as 2967 02:49:28,460 --> 02:49:28,940 well. Yeah, 2968 02:49:29,660 --> 02:49:32,420 yeah. I mean, this is important and interesting Cabinet meeting 2969 02:49:32,420 --> 02:49:35,180 because of who is not there, which was vice president Harris, 2970 02:49:35,180 --> 02:49:38,000 obviously, who has her campaign schedule. But then because of 2971 02:49:38,000 --> 02:49:41,020 the spotlight that the first lady did have, she talked about 2972 02:49:41,020 --> 02:49:43,360 the fact that sometimes the White House, in her words, 2973 02:49:43,360 --> 02:49:46,360 surprises you. And for somebody who has worked on women's health 2974 02:49:46,360 --> 02:49:49,900 issues for her whole career, frankly, as a teacher, but also 2975 02:49:49,900 --> 02:49:52,660 as the second lady, and now is the first lady, she said, Since 2976 02:49:52,660 --> 02:49:55,780 Adam Curry: when has she worked on women's health issues? That's 2977 02:49:55,780 --> 02:49:58,360 John C Dvorak: what I'd like to know. I never heard this. But, 2978 02:49:58,360 --> 02:49:58,720 you know, I 2979 02:49:58,720 --> 02:50:01,560 Adam Curry: think that just conflating. Dr Biden was like, 2980 02:50:01,560 --> 02:50:03,540 Oh, she's worked on women's health issues for oh, 2981 02:50:03,540 --> 02:50:06,840 John C Dvorak: like whoopee did when she thought that Dr Biden 2982 02:50:06,840 --> 02:50:09,900 should be there in general. Where 2983 02:50:09,900 --> 02:50:16,500 Adam Curry: is that cliff? Whoopee, Dr Biden, let me see. I 2984 02:50:16,500 --> 02:50:28,100 have it somewhere. Whoopee, Jill, I think, let me see dr, I 2985 02:50:28,100 --> 02:50:31,820 guess not. Ah, we had it. Oh, I know it's disappointing. What 2986 02:50:31,820 --> 02:50:36,020 can I say? Disappointment? So I always play the west wing clip. 2987 02:50:36,020 --> 02:50:37,220 Yes, let's do that. West Wing 2988 02:50:37,220 --> 02:50:40,040 Unknown: is celebrating his 25th anniversary this week, and 2989 02:50:40,040 --> 02:50:43,060 pierce Chloe Veltman reports actors and producers from the 2990 02:50:43,060 --> 02:50:46,540 hit political TV drama marked the occasion at the White House 2991 02:50:46,540 --> 02:50:50,800 yesterday at the invitation of First Lady, Jill Biden 2992 02:50:51,520 --> 02:50:54,280 during his speech in the White House Rose Garden West Wing 2993 02:50:54,280 --> 02:50:57,580 creator Aaron Sorkin said his show about a principled 2994 02:50:57,580 --> 02:51:01,200 fictional US president, played by Martin Sheen, was, quote, 2995 02:51:01,260 --> 02:51:04,740 idealistic, aspirational, aspirational, aspirational and 2996 02:51:04,740 --> 02:51:05,880 romantic. Over 2997 02:51:05,880 --> 02:51:08,760 the years, I've noticed that during times of peak political 2998 02:51:08,760 --> 02:51:12,540 tension, pundits will warn us not to expect a West Wing 2999 02:51:12,540 --> 02:51:17,040 moment. They mean not to expect a selfless act of statesmanship, 3000 02:51:17,580 --> 02:51:20,040 not to expect anyone to put country first. Don't 3001 02:51:20,040 --> 02:51:22,940 expect anyone to swing for the fences or reach for the stars. 3002 02:51:23,000 --> 02:51:23,540 However, 3003 02:51:23,540 --> 02:51:26,780 Sorkin said President Joe Biden's decision not to run for 3004 02:51:26,780 --> 02:51:30,380 a second term proves that West Wing moments are indeed possible 3005 02:51:30,380 --> 02:51:34,760 in real life. The West Wing ran on NBC from 1999 to 2006 3006 02:51:37,220 --> 02:51:42,580 John C Dvorak: so man Jill brought them in. She's right in 3007 02:51:42,580 --> 02:51:43,180 the place. 3008 02:51:44,200 --> 02:51:46,060 Adam Curry: Does she have the nuclear codes? 3009 02:51:46,660 --> 02:51:47,740 Unknown: Probably, that's 3010 02:51:47,740 --> 02:51:50,320 Adam Curry: the question we all have on our minds. Does she have 3011 02:51:50,320 --> 02:51:51,640 the nuclear codes? 3012 02:51:52,360 --> 02:51:56,080 John C Dvorak: I have a clip here called debate nonsense, 3013 02:51:56,080 --> 02:51:59,860 slant. Vice President NPR clip, sorry. Vice 3014 02:51:59,860 --> 02:52:03,060 Unknown: President Harris, Vice President Harris's campaign says 3015 02:52:03,060 --> 02:52:06,000 she accepted an invitation to a second debate with former 3016 02:52:06,000 --> 02:52:10,020 President Trump, but as NPRs Don gagne reports, Trump says that's 3017 02:52:10,020 --> 02:52:10,980 not going to happen. 3018 02:52:11,040 --> 02:52:14,460 Former President Trump reacted to the news that the Harris 3019 02:52:14,460 --> 02:52:20,040 campaign is agreeing to do a second debate by telling a rally 3020 02:52:20,040 --> 02:52:24,680 in Wilmington, North Carolina, that quote, it's just too late. 3021 02:52:25,100 --> 02:52:30,560 And he accused Harris of wanting to do another debate because, as 3022 02:52:30,560 --> 02:52:36,020 Trump put it, her campaign is going. Quote, badly again, he 3023 02:52:36,020 --> 02:52:39,800 rejected the idea of another debate, saying he's done two 3024 02:52:39,800 --> 02:52:40,460 already. 3025 02:52:42,320 --> 02:52:44,920 John C Dvorak: I Yeah, well, just back to, by the way, this 3026 02:52:44,920 --> 02:52:49,540 debate, they wanted to do another one on CNN. Oh no, 3027 02:52:49,540 --> 02:52:52,060 Harris won't do one on Fox, where they actually have 3028 02:52:52,060 --> 02:52:55,000 somebody that might be objective, like Brett bear. I 3029 02:52:57,100 --> 02:53:01,440 Adam Curry: want to go back to Eleanor Biden for a moment, 3030 02:53:01,680 --> 02:53:04,800 maybe she's the one that pulled the trigger on stealing the 3031 02:53:04,800 --> 02:53:08,160 Russians money. They finally did it on 3032 02:53:08,160 --> 02:53:11,340 Unknown: diplomatic visits, almost every detail sends some 3033 02:53:11,340 --> 02:53:15,180 kind of message, like the flowers given to Ursula von der 3034 02:53:15,180 --> 02:53:21,740 Leyen as she arrived in Kyiv, the President of the European 3035 02:53:21,740 --> 02:53:25,880 Commission visited a memorial for those killed in the war, and 3036 02:53:25,880 --> 02:53:31,160 inspected generators offered by Europe Ukraine's power grid is 3037 02:53:31,160 --> 02:53:35,480 at the heart of her visit. Europe has pledged a 35 billion 3038 02:53:35,480 --> 02:53:39,380 year old loan. One of its main goals is to repair Ukraine's 3039 02:53:39,440 --> 02:53:41,200 energy network. The 3040 02:53:41,200 --> 02:53:45,820 European Union is here to help you in this challenge, to keep 3041 02:53:45,820 --> 02:53:50,560 the lights on, to keep your people warm as winter is just 3042 02:53:50,560 --> 02:53:55,360 around the world, and to keep your economy going as you fight 3043 02:53:55,420 --> 02:53:56,440 for your survival, 3044 02:53:57,100 --> 02:54:00,660 roughly half of Ukraine's energy infrastructure has been 3045 02:54:00,660 --> 02:54:05,280 destroyed in the war. It's one of the key targets. President 3046 02:54:05,280 --> 02:54:09,600 Volodymyr Zelensky says the loan granted by the EU will also be 3047 02:54:09,600 --> 02:54:14,460 used for weapons, for the air defense and for shelters. The 3048 02:54:14,460 --> 02:54:19,320 loan is part of the $50 billion package from g7 countries. 3049 02:54:19,680 --> 02:54:23,420 Profits from Frozen Russian assets will be used as 3050 02:54:23,420 --> 02:54:27,140 collateral for Russia's government. This amounts to 3051 02:54:27,140 --> 02:54:28,220 stealing. It's 3052 02:54:28,880 --> 02:54:32,720 no exaggeration to say that these facts of large scale theft 3053 02:54:32,720 --> 02:54:36,620 of Russian assets will finally nullify the authority and trust 3054 02:54:36,620 --> 02:54:39,860 of the international community in the European Union. That's 3055 02:54:39,860 --> 02:54:40,240 right. 3056 02:54:41,440 --> 02:54:43,480 Adam Curry: Put your trust in our money networks. Don't worry 3057 02:54:43,480 --> 02:54:44,080 about it. 3058 02:54:45,340 --> 02:54:48,220 John C Dvorak: This idiotic is dumb. I'm gonna 3059 02:54:48,220 --> 02:54:51,220 Unknown: show my school by donating to no agenda. Imagine 3060 02:54:51,220 --> 02:54:53,620 all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be 3061 02:54:53,620 --> 02:54:54,100 fabulous. 3062 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:03,480 Adam Curry: Morning. What is not dumb is what's coming up after 3063 02:55:03,480 --> 02:55:07,320 we're done today. We do have some more show for you, a live 3064 02:55:08,760 --> 02:55:12,540 Battle of the Bands. Value for value. Battle of the Bands. The 3065 02:55:12,540 --> 02:55:17,280 satellite skirmish is coming up, so you do not want to tune away 3066 02:55:17,580 --> 02:55:20,960 when that comes up right after we play our end of show mixes. 3067 02:55:20,960 --> 02:55:23,720 We also have some meetup reports. We have our Commodores. 3068 02:55:23,720 --> 02:55:27,260 We're welcoming on board, and we have some people to thank for 3069 02:55:27,260 --> 02:55:29,240 supporting us with some value for value. 3070 02:55:29,900 --> 02:55:30,320 Unknown: You know, we 3071 02:55:30,320 --> 02:55:36,140 John C Dvorak: do. We don't have that many. We have about 20. 3072 02:55:36,380 --> 02:55:42,880 Okay, well, thank you. Ryan perusi, or perusi, is the top of 3073 02:55:42,880 --> 02:55:48,400 the list. He's in San Diego. Hold on a second. My eyes itchy. 3074 02:55:49,720 --> 02:55:55,540 133, 33 and he says, I will read his notes. I've got that many 3075 02:55:55,900 --> 02:56:00,220 fellas, you guys have changed my life and my and many friends 3076 02:56:00,580 --> 02:56:02,880 changed my life and changed my friends. 3077 02:56:03,240 --> 02:56:05,100 Adam Curry: His friends have run away from him, probably, 3078 02:56:08,340 --> 02:56:10,560 John C Dvorak: yeah, okay, well, he's promoting the show which is 3079 02:56:10,560 --> 02:56:15,180 good. Ian field parts are known as $100 Henry Davis in St 3080 02:56:15,180 --> 02:56:19,500 Petersburg, Florida, another guy from St Petersburg, $100 he 3081 02:56:19,500 --> 02:56:20,780 needs a D douching. 3082 02:56:22,520 --> 02:56:24,380 Unknown: You've been deduced. 3083 02:56:25,400 --> 02:56:31,220 John C Dvorak: Brian Lillard in Prosper Texas, 8088, 88 they 3084 02:56:31,220 --> 02:56:33,980 were already to Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina. He's 3085 02:56:33,980 --> 02:56:37,280 the Archduke Luna, lover of American boobs at 808, along 3086 02:56:37,280 --> 02:56:41,740 with Aaron Weisberg and weiberg. Weiberg in Roberts, Wisconsin, 3087 02:56:41,800 --> 02:56:47,200 808 and then we already jump way down from to Les Tarkowski in 3088 02:56:47,200 --> 02:56:52,060 Kingman, Arizona, 6006 first time that's ever happened. Wow. 3089 02:56:53,560 --> 02:56:56,620 We get from big boobs and small boobs. Boom, boom, 3090 02:56:57,040 --> 02:56:59,140 Adam Curry: boom, boom, 3091 02:57:01,540 --> 02:57:05,280 John C Dvorak: boom. Abraham in Arlington, Virginia, okay, uh, 3092 02:57:05,520 --> 02:57:14,880 60 uh. Matthew Martel in brumal, Pennsylvania, 5856 you gotta 3093 02:57:14,880 --> 02:57:19,320 read this one. Sorry, fellas, I can't afford your CPM. I can 3094 02:57:19,320 --> 02:57:27,080 only swing a CPT visit Martel hardware.com, use coupon code 3095 02:57:27,080 --> 02:57:36,200 blame PayPal for 10% off your order. Okay, let's push that up 3096 02:57:36,200 --> 02:57:42,340 to the $200 mark. Matthew, yeah, please. James, bro freight, 3097 02:57:42,460 --> 02:57:48,640 freighter ish Frederick in McFarland, Wisconsin, 5510 your 3098 02:57:48,700 --> 02:57:53,200 he I read his note, your show is neat Oh, neato. There's a term, 3099 02:57:54,160 --> 02:57:58,060 neato, baby. It's Neato. I would assume it's Japanese. By the 3100 02:57:58,060 --> 02:58:03,480 way, congratulations to Ono Sato for winning the sumo competition 3101 02:58:03,480 --> 02:58:07,140 the second time he's won the award in the last three years. 3102 02:58:07,140 --> 02:58:11,700 As a young guy, he'll be up to Ozeki within no time, he's going 3103 02:58:11,700 --> 02:58:15,900 to be Ozeki next year or next tournament. This guy is the next 3104 02:58:15,900 --> 02:58:19,260 Joe kazuna. Well, I will be saying it to the bank. I 3105 02:58:19,260 --> 02:58:22,040 Adam Curry: will be celebrating with Sir Mark and daymastered in 3106 02:58:22,040 --> 02:58:23,780 a week and a half. Yeah, 3107 02:58:23,780 --> 02:58:25,400 John C Dvorak: well, I'm sure they're aware of this. This is 3108 02:58:25,400 --> 02:58:28,460 on a one today, before the term is even over. He had too many 3109 02:58:28,460 --> 02:58:33,380 wins. Wow. Yeah, I'm sure you're thrilled. Dame Nancy in San 3110 02:58:33,380 --> 02:58:39,860 Bruno, California, 54 Mark Hardwick in Alito, Texas, 5333 3111 02:58:41,840 --> 02:58:49,480 Leslie Wilbur in Loxahatchee, Florida. 5272 Paul Hobbs and can 3112 02:58:49,780 --> 02:58:53,620 connugra is in cannura, Queensland, Australia. 5272 3113 02:58:54,460 --> 02:58:56,080 Adam Curry: conundra. I think it's conundrum. 3114 02:58:57,160 --> 02:59:00,720 John C Dvorak: Conundru, congra could be, think so. For Scott 3115 02:59:00,720 --> 02:59:04,200 Brinkley in North Carolina, 5272 these are all $50 donors. 3116 02:59:04,200 --> 02:59:10,800 Actually, Steven crummy and El Cajon, 5272 Forrest, Martin 505. 3117 02:59:12,900 --> 02:59:16,980 And now we got the $50 donors, and there's only 12345, of them. 3118 02:59:16,980 --> 02:59:21,380 It's that low. It's that bad. Uh, thank God for the 3119 02:59:21,380 --> 02:59:26,600 Commodores. Nicholas aruto which in Harpers Ferry, Wisconsin, uh, 3120 02:59:26,600 --> 02:59:30,620 West Virginia. Sorry. Michael sycora in New Richmond, 3121 02:59:30,620 --> 02:59:36,800 Wisconsin. Deborah Cornyn in pincher Creek, Alberta, Canada, 3122 02:59:37,280 --> 02:59:42,040 and she says she's in the Barbados Dame flying fish, as a 3123 02:59:42,040 --> 02:59:47,260 matter of fact, Jimmy Rowe in Warrington, Pennsylvania. And 3124 02:59:47,260 --> 02:59:53,020 last on our short list is Dan Wyrick in Corpus Christi, Texas, 3125 02:59:53,020 --> 02:59:59,080 and he has a call out. Hank is a douchebag. And that's our group 3126 02:59:59,080 --> 03:00:03,600 of well wish. Supporters and producers for show, 1697, 3127 03:00:05,340 --> 03:00:07,860 Adam Curry: value for value. That's the only way that we make 3128 03:00:07,860 --> 03:00:10,440 it work here at the no agenda show. So please support the 3129 03:00:10,440 --> 03:00:13,800 show. No agenda donations.com and a roll out of karma for 3130 03:00:13,800 --> 03:00:17,100 those who just might need it, we've got karma again. No. 3131 03:00:17,100 --> 03:00:18,840 Agenda donations.com, and 3132 03:00:26,000 --> 03:00:30,020 well, how about that? Today is buzzkill Jr's birthday. 3133 03:00:30,020 --> 03:00:34,040 Congratulations. Buzzkill Jr, as serpent in the troll room turns 3134 03:00:34,040 --> 03:00:39,020 35 today and tomorrow, Sir Ben Rose, who doesn't know him from 3135 03:00:39,020 --> 03:00:41,920 the troll room in the screen, will be celebrating his birthday 3136 03:00:41,920 --> 03:00:44,500 and his wedding anniversary. Happy Birthday and 3137 03:00:44,500 --> 03:00:47,380 Congratulations, everybody here at the best podcast in the 3138 03:00:47,380 --> 03:00:52,660 universe. So I think we should do our Commodores first, 3139 03:00:52,660 --> 03:00:54,940 probably. Or should we do a night? Or first? I'll do the 3140 03:00:54,940 --> 03:00:59,320 Commodore. Okay, so this is all new, everybody. So the whole 3141 03:00:59,320 --> 03:01:03,060 idea is that we welcome our new Commodores. We need to get them 3142 03:01:03,060 --> 03:01:05,640 all positioned up here on the stage, because we're about to 3143 03:01:05,640 --> 03:01:09,000 hand them out. We say congratulations to Commodore 3144 03:01:09,060 --> 03:01:13,260 gizmo Commodore kulaban Go. Commodore Helmer and Commodore 3145 03:01:13,260 --> 03:01:18,360 krimbe. Welcome to our new Commodores. What do you think? 3146 03:01:20,040 --> 03:01:22,160 John C Dvorak: It's good? It's good. Okay, have one other 3147 03:01:22,160 --> 03:01:25,520 element. I'm not sure what, okay, not complaining. Shall 3148 03:01:25,520 --> 03:01:27,080 Adam Curry: we have a meeting after the show? 3149 03:01:27,440 --> 03:01:29,540 John C Dvorak: God, no, let's do what you're doing. It's fine. 3150 03:01:29,660 --> 03:01:32,180 Adam Curry: Okay, give me a blade. We got one night to bring 3151 03:01:32,180 --> 03:01:37,160 up on this. They said that one Christian, Christian Friedman, 3152 03:01:37,280 --> 03:01:41,620 please step on up here. You sir, I believe you are a layaway. And 3153 03:01:41,620 --> 03:01:44,680 then you just add a little bit on top. We are very, very happy 3154 03:01:44,680 --> 03:01:48,400 about that and very proud to pronounce the KD is our new 3155 03:01:48,400 --> 03:01:51,820 night sir crimby of the San Marcos River for you. We've got 3156 03:01:52,000 --> 03:01:54,760 hookers and blow red boys and Chardonnay and, by request, a 3157 03:01:54,760 --> 03:01:58,960 glass of orange juice and Ray Pete's carrot salad. Yum. Who 3158 03:01:58,960 --> 03:02:02,760 doesn't love it? Also Rubenesque women and rose a geisha, Zaki 3159 03:02:02,760 --> 03:02:05,400 vodka and vanilla bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider, 3160 03:02:05,400 --> 03:02:08,820 nescorps, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablum. 3161 03:02:09,000 --> 03:02:11,580 And as always, for all the knights and the dames at the 3162 03:02:11,580 --> 03:02:15,780 round table, we have a nice helping of mutton and Mead. So 3163 03:02:15,780 --> 03:02:19,860 you brand new. Sir crimby, head over to noadgenderings.com Go 3164 03:02:19,860 --> 03:02:22,640 ahead. Take a look at that lovely, lovely, lovely ring. 3165 03:02:22,640 --> 03:02:26,600 It's a signet ring. If you give us your ring size, which you can 3166 03:02:26,600 --> 03:02:30,440 do with a handy ring sizing guide on that website, send that 3167 03:02:30,440 --> 03:02:33,440 off to us, and we'll give you the ring. We'll send that off to 3168 03:02:33,440 --> 03:02:36,380 you, along with some wax to seal your important correspondence 3169 03:02:36,380 --> 03:02:38,780 with, because there is a signet ring and, as always, a 3170 03:02:38,780 --> 03:02:41,320 certificate of authenticity. Once again. Welcome to the 3171 03:02:41,320 --> 03:02:44,140 roundtable, sir crimby of the San Marcos River. 3172 03:02:54,220 --> 03:02:56,680 Everybody's getting excited for the meetup here in 3173 03:02:56,740 --> 03:03:01,680 Fredericksburg, Texas on October 18. Reminder that if you are 3174 03:03:01,680 --> 03:03:04,740 bringing a donation to put in an envelope with a note and with 3175 03:03:04,740 --> 03:03:08,040 your name, please, because that's the very difficult if we 3176 03:03:08,040 --> 03:03:11,640 can't remember who gave what we take on the spot donations. 3177 03:03:11,640 --> 03:03:14,100 That'll be October 18 in Fredericksburg right now, 3178 03:03:14,100 --> 03:03:17,880 though, we have a meet up report from the September 19 Denver 3179 03:03:17,880 --> 03:03:18,720 Shindig. Hey, 3180 03:03:18,720 --> 03:03:19,980 Unknown: folks, Denver meet up. This 3181 03:03:19,980 --> 03:03:23,720 is cousin Vito. Let's see if Uncle Moshe wants to talk. Uncle 3182 03:03:23,720 --> 03:03:29,360 moishi, you want to say anything to everybody? Oi denvanita, 3183 03:03:29,960 --> 03:03:30,860 Uncle moishi, 3184 03:03:31,280 --> 03:03:34,640 there are Musa squirrel, I 3185 03:03:34,640 --> 03:03:37,100 know I can't do it. I'm sorry. Boys, 3186 03:03:38,780 --> 03:03:42,160 introduction to the Mormon. Sixes. Care Bear, the 3187 03:03:42,160 --> 03:03:48,820 not so secret lives of ex Mormon, ex wives Colorado. Care 3188 03:03:48,820 --> 03:03:49,180 Bear, 3189 03:03:49,360 --> 03:03:52,600 hey, this is Nate second meet up. Still not a spook. This 3190 03:03:52,600 --> 03:03:56,440 is Josh Sumption coming in from North Aurora north. Call Aurora 3191 03:03:56,440 --> 03:04:00,460 Colorado, and we are turning in all of our boons. We are going 3192 03:04:00,820 --> 03:04:04,320 to get them inspected for any explosives that may be inside 3193 03:04:06,900 --> 03:04:10,500 Adam Curry: it. Editing the comedy right in in San Diego. 3194 03:04:10,500 --> 03:04:11,820 Here's their meetup report. Hey, 3195 03:04:11,820 --> 03:04:15,000 Unknown: John and Adam. This is Sir Mike at the monthly meetup 3196 03:04:15,000 --> 03:04:20,340 here in Rancho Bernardo, San Diego. ITM let me pass this 3197 03:04:20,340 --> 03:04:20,820 around. 3198 03:04:20,940 --> 03:04:23,900 This is Sir Matthew Black Knight of the ice giants. Or you may 3199 03:04:23,900 --> 03:04:26,780 know me in the value versus Matt the tall I'll be performing in 3200 03:04:26,780 --> 03:04:31,040 the second satellite skirmish on Sunday, the 22nd coming up. So 3201 03:04:31,040 --> 03:04:33,500 if you want to come and spend some SATs, watch some cool 3202 03:04:33,500 --> 03:04:34,040 music, 3203 03:04:34,040 --> 03:04:34,580 check it out. 3204 03:04:34,760 --> 03:04:37,940 This is Sir Joffe. I still need to come up with a funny tagline. 3205 03:04:37,940 --> 03:04:41,560 I don't have one, but I did just have some delicious roast cat 3206 03:04:41,560 --> 03:04:42,160 and mutt. 3207 03:04:42,340 --> 03:04:45,280 Hello from Taylor and a future human resource on 3208 03:04:45,280 --> 03:04:46,540 the way in the morning, 3209 03:04:46,600 --> 03:04:50,680 Kelly, Dame of the crushed grapes in the morning. Just had 3210 03:04:50,680 --> 03:04:51,760 a little pizza with 3211 03:04:51,760 --> 03:04:53,020 some geese on it. 3212 03:04:53,200 --> 03:04:57,100 I see I'm John and Adam. This is Dame on love. You mean it Adam 3213 03:04:57,100 --> 03:04:57,280 and 3214 03:04:57,280 --> 03:05:02,460 John hit it's Victor on my way to be. In a third and bring back 3215 03:05:02,460 --> 03:05:06,000 the good new segment. And four more years is not enough. 3216 03:05:06,060 --> 03:05:07,860 All right. On three, ITM 123, 3217 03:05:10,500 --> 03:05:13,200 Adam Curry: in San Diego. Thank you for reporting in we have 3218 03:05:13,200 --> 03:05:17,700 meetups taking place today. One actually at margaritas. Keene, 3219 03:05:17,700 --> 03:05:20,600 that is in Keene, New Hampshire. It's a too many eggs.com. Meet 3220 03:05:20,600 --> 03:05:24,860 up number six on Thursday, our next show day to North Georgia, 3221 03:05:24,860 --> 03:05:27,980 monthly at six o'clock at Cherry Street. Brewing in Alpharetta, 3222 03:05:27,980 --> 03:05:31,340 Georgia. And on the way, in the next couple of months, we have 3223 03:05:31,340 --> 03:05:34,220 rich in Washington, Tilburg, the Netherlands, Tulsa, Oklahoma, 3224 03:05:34,220 --> 03:05:37,940 Pickton, Ontario, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania, Indianapolis, 3225 03:05:37,940 --> 03:05:40,600 Indiana Bay City, Michigan. Keene, New Hampshire, again, 3226 03:05:40,600 --> 03:05:43,540 Fredericksburg, Texas, October 18. Be there. Curry the keeper 3227 03:05:43,540 --> 03:05:48,400 will be there. Bedford, Texas, ochi, Okeechobee, Florida, 3228 03:05:48,400 --> 03:05:51,220 Ottawa, Ontario, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Emeryville, 3229 03:05:51,220 --> 03:05:55,000 California, Bastrop Texas, Ocala, Florida, Sacramento, 3230 03:05:55,000 --> 03:05:58,300 California, West Palm Beach, Florida, and adventura Florida. 3231 03:05:58,300 --> 03:06:00,780 Many more meetups that you can find, no agenda, meetups.com. 3232 03:06:01,560 --> 03:06:04,140 You have not lived until you've been to a no agenda meetup. It's 3233 03:06:04,140 --> 03:06:07,260 that simple. If you can't find one near you, start one yourself 3234 03:06:07,260 --> 03:06:08,880 and start living today. 3235 03:06:09,060 --> 03:06:13,200 Unknown: Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights 3236 03:06:13,200 --> 03:06:14,460 and days where everybody 3237 03:06:20,000 --> 03:06:25,100 game. It's like a 3238 03:06:27,860 --> 03:06:31,280 Adam Curry: party. Oh, man, I'm glad you brought some ISOs, 3239 03:06:31,280 --> 03:06:35,060 because I have a very I only have one offering, and I don't 3240 03:06:35,060 --> 03:06:38,240 think it's any good. I don't think it's any good. I'll play 3241 03:06:38,240 --> 03:06:38,540 mine. 3242 03:06:38,600 --> 03:06:41,860 Unknown: Let's move on to marijuana. No 3243 03:06:41,860 --> 03:06:45,700 Adam Curry: See, I don't like it's no good. That's it. That's 3244 03:06:45,700 --> 03:06:48,880 all I got. I'm sorry I spent time on AI stuff. 3245 03:06:50,440 --> 03:06:53,740 John C Dvorak: I have three. I do have one that's a little long 3246 03:06:53,740 --> 03:06:57,820 and probably not usable, but it since I had to find this guy 3247 03:06:57,820 --> 03:07:02,520 rough head, a Navy guy, yeah. Now I have a woman whose name is 3248 03:07:02,520 --> 03:07:08,760 Hancock and sheep, and she says the following can't 3249 03:07:08,760 --> 03:07:11,520 Unknown: get it out fast enough because our hands are so busy in 3250 03:07:11,520 --> 03:07:12,180 that moment. 3251 03:07:13,140 --> 03:07:16,500 Adam Curry: Yeah, it's too long and too suggestive. It's 3252 03:07:16,500 --> 03:07:18,960 John C Dvorak: very suggestive, but I couldn't figure out what 3253 03:07:19,140 --> 03:07:22,100 she's talking about. Okay, let's go. It's welcome. You're 3254 03:07:22,100 --> 03:07:22,520 welcome. 3255 03:07:24,380 --> 03:07:26,480 Adam Curry: That's always a winner, always a winner, always 3256 03:07:26,480 --> 03:07:26,960 a winner. 3257 03:07:27,320 --> 03:07:28,760 John C Dvorak: And then no big deal. Yeah, 3258 03:07:28,760 --> 03:07:29,360 Unknown: well, it's 3259 03:07:29,360 --> 03:07:32,240 no big deal. Wow. I 3260 03:07:32,240 --> 03:07:34,940 Adam Curry: don't know if I like Well, you're welcome better, or 3261 03:07:35,120 --> 03:07:37,760 you're welcome. I think you're welcome is good. It's just 3262 03:07:37,760 --> 03:07:40,960 short, All right, everybody, it's time once again for that 3263 03:07:40,960 --> 03:07:43,120 favorite sake, with John's Tip of the day and 3264 03:07:49,000 --> 03:07:49,420 Unknown: sometimes. 3265 03:07:52,240 --> 03:07:54,580 Adam Curry: And before you start with your tip of the day, I did 3266 03:07:54,580 --> 03:07:59,140 want to mention that we now have a website Tip of the day.net 3267 03:07:59,980 --> 03:08:05,880 where all of John's tips of the day are located. Also no agenda. 3268 03:08:05,880 --> 03:08:09,660 Fun.com Let me just check, check if that is yes, no agenda. 3269 03:08:09,660 --> 03:08:12,840 Fun.com which has a lot of fun stuff about the show, is now 3270 03:08:12,840 --> 03:08:16,620 also including the tip of the day. So noadgendafund.com, and 3271 03:08:16,620 --> 03:08:21,200 Tip of the day.net John. Let's add another entry. Okay, so 3272 03:08:21,200 --> 03:08:24,200 John C Dvorak: we have people who use Twitter a lot every 3273 03:08:24,200 --> 03:08:29,840 once. Now it's becoming video centric, yeah, and so there is a 3274 03:08:29,840 --> 03:08:34,580 product, and it's, it's an online product called Twitter, 3275 03:08:34,640 --> 03:08:39,740 vid.com, and as I've looked at these different Twitter video 3276 03:08:39,740 --> 03:08:45,220 downloaders, this down. You put the URL of the of the of the 3277 03:08:45,220 --> 03:08:49,720 post that's got the video right into this thing. It downloads it 3278 03:08:49,720 --> 03:08:52,240 in high def. It usually gives you two or three options of how 3279 03:08:52,240 --> 03:08:55,120 you want to download. You download saves it as an mp three 3280 03:08:55,120 --> 03:08:58,900 that you can now post on LinkedIn, or you can send it as 3281 03:08:58,900 --> 03:09:04,080 email attachments. It's it's, I It's great for these videos that 3282 03:09:04,080 --> 03:09:06,180 you've watched. And you go, Oh, this isn't going to be up here 3283 03:09:06,180 --> 03:09:09,120 long. You download it using Twitter, vid.com 3284 03:09:10,260 --> 03:09:12,720 Adam Curry: uh, MP four, I presume not an mp three, I 3285 03:09:12,720 --> 03:09:14,220 John C Dvorak: am, sorry. MP four, exactly. 3286 03:09:14,220 --> 03:09:15,840 Adam Curry: You're right. So then what? What can you do with 3287 03:09:15,840 --> 03:09:18,600 that? You can then upload it to other places, yeah, you 3288 03:09:18,600 --> 03:09:21,080 John C Dvorak: can upload it to, I said, LinkedIn, or you could 3289 03:09:21,080 --> 03:09:24,140 use it in an email attachment. Yep, you can do all kinds of 3290 03:09:24,140 --> 03:09:26,900 stuff with this. Or you can repost it on Twitter as though 3291 03:09:26,900 --> 03:09:27,860 you discovered it, 3292 03:09:27,920 --> 03:09:30,020 Adam Curry: or create some entropy and upload it to 3293 03:09:30,020 --> 03:09:31,280 notebook. Lm, what 3294 03:09:31,460 --> 03:09:32,780 John C Dvorak: could possibly go wrong? 3295 03:09:33,980 --> 03:09:36,980 Adam Curry: Are you looking for good advice? Perhaps something 3296 03:09:36,980 --> 03:09:41,860 practical, or something you really need try the new agenda. 3297 03:09:41,860 --> 03:09:45,760 Tip of the day, professional quality tips from the best 3298 03:09:45,760 --> 03:09:49,240 podcast in the universe. That's right tip of the day every 3299 03:09:49,240 --> 03:09:52,480 single end of show right here, before we go to our end of show 3300 03:09:52,480 --> 03:09:58,300 mixes, which today includes, let me see we have Jesse coy Nelson, 3301 03:09:58,300 --> 03:10:02,940 we've got David kecta and. And we have Billy Bones checking in. 3302 03:10:03,360 --> 03:10:08,160 Does it get any better than that? I don't think so. And as 3303 03:10:08,160 --> 03:10:11,400 promoted earlier, coming up next, right after we disconnect 3304 03:10:11,400 --> 03:10:15,300 from the stream, we have a live value for value Battle of the 3305 03:10:15,300 --> 03:10:19,260 Bands. Boost them directly. It is the satellite skirmish. 3306 03:10:19,260 --> 03:10:26,660 Autumn rust that's gonna be awesome. I'm sure I said in my 3307 03:10:26,660 --> 03:10:31,700 best Oprah voice, whew. And of course, we will be back on 3308 03:10:31,700 --> 03:10:35,480 Thursday to bring you more of your media deconstruction, to 3309 03:10:35,480 --> 03:10:40,960 show you that it's all just a big show. Don't worry about it. 3310 03:10:40,960 --> 03:10:44,080 Go touch the grass. Rub your face on this cement coming to 3311 03:10:44,080 --> 03:10:47,260 you. From the heart of the Texas Hill Country, Fredericksburg, 3312 03:10:47,260 --> 03:10:50,140 Texas, in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry 3313 03:10:50,200 --> 03:10:52,420 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley, where, once 3314 03:10:52,420 --> 03:10:56,260 again, the fog is rolling in as usual. I'm John C Dvorak. 3315 03:10:56,260 --> 03:10:59,380 Adam Curry: Remember us for our next show. Support us. Value for 3316 03:10:59,380 --> 03:11:02,940 value at no agenda. Donations.com enjoy the sunlight 3317 03:11:02,940 --> 03:11:09,000 skirmish until Thursday. Adios. Newfoza, hooey, hooey and such. 3318 03:11:14,280 --> 03:11:17,280 Unknown: He seems to make a distinction between mail in 3319 03:11:17,280 --> 03:11:19,320 ballot and absentee ballot, but 3320 03:11:19,320 --> 03:11:22,400 there's no such distinction. They're the same thing. 3321 03:11:22,520 --> 03:11:24,440 Did the dead get balanced? 3322 03:11:24,560 --> 03:11:26,060 Take a look at 1000s of 3323 03:11:26,060 --> 03:11:28,820 pieces of mail that never made it to Portland, homes and 3324 03:11:28,820 --> 03:11:32,120 businesses. Police tell us a postal worker was the one 3325 03:11:32,180 --> 03:11:33,620 stealing that's 3326 03:11:33,620 --> 03:11:37,460 very frightening to think that I can't mail something here and 3327 03:11:37,460 --> 03:11:38,720 it's going to be okay. 3328 03:11:38,780 --> 03:11:41,980 Osborne blames it on his meth addiction, contributed to his 3329 03:11:41,980 --> 03:11:45,760 inability to deliver the mail. Put your mask on, line up and 3330 03:11:45,760 --> 03:11:47,680 vote like we always do, how 3331 03:11:47,680 --> 03:11:50,860 many postal workers are caught and what's being done to prevent 3332 03:11:50,860 --> 03:11:51,760 theft at your 3333 03:11:51,760 --> 03:11:52,720 post office? 3334 03:12:01,240 --> 03:12:05,340 So Jamie Lee Curtis believes that Donald Trump is attempting 3335 03:12:05,340 --> 03:12:08,820 to steal the election, and I assume the mail in ballots by 3336 03:12:08,820 --> 03:12:13,260 hiring tow truck drivers to haul away mailmans that she believes 3337 03:12:13,260 --> 03:12:16,440 are full of Democrat ballots tampering with the Postal 3338 03:12:16,440 --> 03:12:20,120 Service. He is, in effect, putting his knee on the neck of 3339 03:12:20,120 --> 03:12:21,800 American democracy, Donald 3340 03:12:21,800 --> 03:12:23,300 Trump is stealing the election, 3341 03:12:23,420 --> 03:12:24,200 but you may face 3342 03:12:24,200 --> 03:12:27,140 a felony charge if you attempt to vote twice, that is by mail 3343 03:12:27,140 --> 03:12:27,680 and also 3344 03:12:27,740 --> 03:12:28,640 in person. But they 3345 03:12:28,640 --> 03:12:32,120 raid the mailboxes. They can even print ballots. They get the 3346 03:12:32,120 --> 03:12:36,140 same paper, the same machine, nothing special. Amazon is going 3347 03:12:36,140 --> 03:12:37,640 to pay for the post office. 3348 03:12:38,660 --> 03:12:40,480 Delivery, deliveries, deliveries. Liberated. 3349 03:12:44,620 --> 03:12:47,500 I And Tim Ross are both gun owners. We 3350 03:12:47,500 --> 03:12:49,300 will not take anybody's guns away. 3351 03:12:49,600 --> 03:12:53,740 We also need to have reasonable gun safety laws. 3352 03:12:53,860 --> 03:12:56,500 I believe that we need an assault weapons ban. 3353 03:12:56,740 --> 03:12:58,360 Bag: We need universal background checks. 3354 03:12:59,020 --> 03:13:00,180 Unknown: We need red flag laws. 3355 03:13:11,220 --> 03:13:11,640 Outside the 3356 03:13:13,380 --> 03:13:16,080 house. We want to ban assault weapons, and they 3357 03:13:17,100 --> 03:13:18,420 want to ban Fox 3358 03:13:20,000 --> 03:13:23,120 events, and they want to ban books 3359 03:13:24,260 --> 03:13:25,460 extremists attack our 3360 03:13:26,600 --> 03:13:29,180 freedom to live safe from gun violence. 3361 03:13:29,840 --> 03:13:33,080 I want to emphasize, we are over two months, of course, since 3362 03:13:33,080 --> 03:13:35,780 Butler, do you know that the Secret Service still has not 3363 03:13:35,780 --> 03:13:38,600 given congressional investigators the documented 3364 03:13:38,600 --> 03:13:42,040 evidence we have been asking for for two months, two months since 3365 03:13:42,040 --> 03:13:45,820 Trump was shot in the face. Now he has been shot at her nearly 3366 03:13:45,880 --> 03:13:49,840 so again, and still, Secret Service is stonewalling right 3367 03:13:49,840 --> 03:13:53,860 down to this hour. I mean, what is going on here? They need to 3368 03:13:53,860 --> 03:13:55,300 level with us. Let's try this 3369 03:13:59,260 --> 03:13:59,980 one. Mike check. 3370 03:14:02,260 --> 03:14:08,580 Adam Curry: Mike check. Mike check, we have a saying in the 3371 03:14:09,060 --> 03:14:13,320 Netherlands. You accuse others that of what you are guilty of. 3372 03:14:16,080 --> 03:14:19,020 Unknown: Yeah. Mike check, but 3373 03:14:19,020 --> 03:14:22,200 Adam Curry: you said clean yourself. Would you go through 3374 03:14:22,200 --> 03:14:22,560 the health 3375 03:14:24,740 --> 03:14:26,300 Unknown: we have a saying in the Netherlands, 3376 03:14:27,380 --> 03:14:28,760 Adam Curry: or Mic check. Mic check, 3377 03:14:30,260 --> 03:14:31,400 Unknown: but you said, Ben yourself. You 3378 03:14:35,660 --> 03:14:41,620 Adam Curry: accuse others that you are guilty of. Boom. Yeah, 3379 03:14:43,600 --> 03:14:46,600 mike check. Mike check. Watches 3380 03:14:50,260 --> 03:14:51,940 Unknown: like you, mains, elf, magical, 3381 03:14:54,460 --> 03:14:56,320 John C Dvorak: legless grammar, nailed it. 3382 03:15:27,020 --> 03:15:32,300 Unknown: Dot org slash n A You're welcome. You.