1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,100 John C Dvorak: Don't let them eat the cats. 2 00:00:02,460 --> 00:00:04,980 Unknown: Adam curry. John C Dvorak, it's Sunday, 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,100 Adam Curry: September 15, 2024 this is your award winning 4 00:00:08,100 --> 00:00:10,680 giveaway nation. Media assassination, Episode 1695. 5 00:00:11,220 --> 00:00:11,640 This 6 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:12,600 Unknown: is no agenda, 7 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:17,580 Adam Curry: watching world war three and broadcasting live from 8 00:00:17,580 --> 00:00:20,040 the heart of the Texas show country here in FEMA Region. 9 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,720 Number six. Why? In the morning, everybody? I'm Adam curry from 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,020 John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley, where we are not eating 11 00:00:27,020 --> 00:00:29,780 the dogs yet. I'm John C Dvorak. It's 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,800 Adam Curry: crackpot and buzzkill in the morning. Yeah. 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:42,940 Keyword, yet, yet. That's right. Oh, man, I'm slow today. Bye. 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,660 No, we, we went out last night. 15 00:00:47,260 --> 00:00:50,620 John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, night before a show. Well, 16 00:00:50,620 --> 00:00:52,600 Adam Curry: you want to hear about it was, was kind of 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,380 interesting. It was the Fredericksburg Tea Party, boots 18 00:00:56,380 --> 00:01:04,440 and barbecue dinner. Yes, I knew, I knew you'd want to hear 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,000 about it. Yeah, typically I would, I wouldn't really go to 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,000 something of this. Certainly, anything that's a party. But the 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,680 Tea Party in Fredericksburg is, I mean, you know, it's not still 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,360 a tea party. It's an old school tea party. It's not, you know, 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,740 like the Ron Paul Yeah, days of tea party. So not really, it's 24 00:01:24,740 --> 00:01:28,220 not really a political party, but it's a reason for the good 25 00:01:28,220 --> 00:01:29,960 old boys and girls to get together. 26 00:01:30,020 --> 00:01:31,220 Unknown: And did you wear boots? 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,520 Adam Curry: I did. Did Tina? Tina wore, like, a cute skirt 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,920 and boots, and I discovered I need a hat, because I was one of 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,320 the few without a hat. So of course, the Fredericksburg Tea 30 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:48,580 Party, boots and barbecue was held in beautiful downtown 31 00:01:48,580 --> 00:01:53,620 Kerrville. There's no There's no place that can facilitate there 32 00:01:53,620 --> 00:01:57,760 were 350 people there. It was. It was quite a, quite a get 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,820 together. Now, this is organized by Matt long. Matt is a fixture 34 00:02:02,820 --> 00:02:07,860 in in Fredericksburg. He's been running the Tea Party for 15 35 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,980 years, and he's actually the guy who's also organizing the no 36 00:02:10,980 --> 00:02:16,200 agenda meetup on the 18th of October at the full moon in bed 37 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,720 and breakfast. Plug, well, of course, it's a plug. And I met 38 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:22,700 Jenny, Jenny McCombs, 39 00:02:23,060 --> 00:02:25,460 John C Dvorak: who owns, oh, Jenny, I've always wanted to 40 00:02:25,460 --> 00:02:26,960 meet Jenny. She owns 41 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,620 Adam Curry: the full moon in bed and breakfast, and she's very 42 00:02:30,620 --> 00:02:34,640 excited to meet everybody. And she says she's, she's a January 43 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:38,480 sixer, tried, convicted. I think she even served time wise, yeah, 44 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,100 I think she served time in prison. 45 00:02:40,820 --> 00:02:45,280 John C Dvorak: She went to DC, yeah, oh, yeah. This is 46 00:02:45,340 --> 00:02:48,700 dedication. I like it. So I 47 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:50,680 Adam Curry: didn't get the chat with her real long. So I'll get, 48 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,220 I'll get the full story when we see her on the 18th. Anyway, 49 00:02:55,180 --> 00:02:58,720 there were some speakers, which was quite interesting, Rick 50 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,460 Green, who runs the Patriot Academy, which is that's a place 51 00:03:02,460 --> 00:03:06,540 here in right near Fredericksburg, where you can go 52 00:03:06,540 --> 00:03:10,200 and learn how the Constitution works and how Congress works and 53 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,320 how you get a bill on the floor. And they educate young people, 54 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:17,220 but probably they're just as well known for their four day 55 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,500 personal self defense class. 56 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:22,280 John C Dvorak: So they're basically doing what the high 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,460 schools should have been, yes, for decades, exactly. 58 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:29,840 Adam Curry: It's like a highway, yeah, then with the four day 59 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,540 pistol training, and it's great. He gets up, he says, Yeah, well, 60 00:03:32,540 --> 00:03:34,160 John C Dvorak: he used to have gun clubs, of course, high 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,000 school, of course. 62 00:03:35,060 --> 00:03:37,160 Adam Curry: He gets up says, Hi everybody. I'm Rick. He's real 63 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,440 animate. I'm Rick Green. So what do we do right now, if right 64 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,860 through that door in the back, the dirtbag comes in his gun. AR 65 00:03:41,860 --> 00:03:45,160 15 starts shooting. How many are you prepared? So you know, 30 66 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,480 hands go up, at least, 67 00:03:48,340 --> 00:03:50,500 John C Dvorak: all holding guns. They shoot them all in the air. 68 00:03:50,500 --> 00:03:52,360 That's what would really be 69 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,880 Adam Curry: funny. No one actually pulled their gun up. 70 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,080 And he said, but are you prepared to get the job done 71 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,220 anyway? It was a good pitch. Really good pitch. Then, 72 00:04:03,180 --> 00:04:05,400 John C Dvorak: this is sounded nuttier and nuttier by the 73 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,480 minute. It was one. No, 74 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,200 Adam Curry: this is great. Then, Chip, Roy spoke our chip, Roy 75 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,880 was there. Yes, Chip, Roy was there. And very dark. Chip Roy 76 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,060 very dark. This is it. This is if we don't win this election, 77 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:19,620 we're all gonna die. 78 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:23,060 John C Dvorak: Yes, that's the pitch, 79 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,180 Adam Curry: yeah. And then he gave his pitch for the Save Act, 80 00:04:26,540 --> 00:04:30,800 which is the, was it like? I think it's basically make sure 81 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,820 illegals don't vote in our elections. Act, which is, which 82 00:04:34,820 --> 00:04:39,980 was controversial, because it kind of blew up, I think this 83 00:04:39,980 --> 00:04:42,880 week, where, what's our what's our? Guy that from Kentucky, 84 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,260 Massey, he said, Now, this is all nonsense. They jam all this 85 00:04:47,260 --> 00:04:48,280 stuff into 86 00:04:49,300 --> 00:04:51,940 John C Dvorak: the Massey, yes, I don't do we. There is a clip 87 00:04:51,940 --> 00:04:56,800 going around. I never took it, but Massey is the guy to do 88 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,900 this. He is the wet blanket in the Republican, yeah. Party who 89 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:04,140 doesn't put up with anything, and everybody rolls their eyes, 90 00:05:04,140 --> 00:05:04,980 and they all love him. 91 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,460 Adam Curry: Yeah, he's kind of like a new Rand Paul. He's like, 92 00:05:08,460 --> 00:05:12,060 No, I'm just not going to do this nonsense. So, so chip, 93 00:05:12,060 --> 00:05:15,720 right? You know, he's okay, but, you know, I can't remember what 94 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,920 it was, but he, he, sometimes he, he does stuff. I'm like, 95 00:05:19,980 --> 00:05:22,880 Man, I don't know. Man, he's, seems like a good old boy who 96 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,400 got, got a little bit too much politician in him, but it was 97 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,160 nice he was there. That was nice, but that was a lot 98 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,500 John C Dvorak: different than my, uh, yesterday. Well, I'm 99 00:05:30,500 --> 00:05:34,100 Adam Curry: not done yet. Oh no, I haven't gone to the headliner. 100 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,840 Wow. Oh yeah, there's a headliner. So after chip, 101 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,200 pardon, after chip Roy, the trumped up Texan, came in, who 102 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:50,020 was a Trump impersonator, very good, and he even took questions 103 00:05:50,020 --> 00:05:52,780 from the audience and stayed in character. I was well impressed 104 00:05:52,780 --> 00:05:57,760 with that guy. But then the headliner, the one, the only Mr. 105 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,980 Mike pillow himself, Mike Lindell, 106 00:06:01,420 --> 00:06:04,680 John C Dvorak: so you got to meet me. You got to meet Mike. 107 00:06:04,860 --> 00:06:09,900 Adam Curry: I did. I met Mike and get a free pillow. He was 108 00:06:09,900 --> 00:06:14,760 not handing it's not going too well with my pillow.com. Why? Oh 109 00:06:14,820 --> 00:06:18,540 well, they pretty much canceled them out of every box store, and 110 00:06:19,020 --> 00:06:22,940 they've the guy. They canceled his accounts. They they his 111 00:06:22,940 --> 00:06:26,480 American Express account, his Merc credit card. Oh yeah, he 112 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,040 got completely deplatformed. 113 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,000 John C Dvorak: You didn't know American Express canceled him. 114 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,740 Oh yeah, for what 115 00:06:33,860 --> 00:06:36,200 Adam Curry: for? Uh, questioning the elections. 116 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:41,380 John C Dvorak: What's that got to do with mercantile acceptance 117 00:06:41,380 --> 00:06:45,940 of a credit card, yeah, they he got canceled. So American 118 00:06:45,940 --> 00:06:48,160 Express is an activist organization. Is 119 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,720 Adam Curry: that what you're saying? I would say so and 120 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:54,520 chase. You know, all his bank accounts got frozen. But the 121 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,160 worst part is, he couldn't accept any credit cards, so he 122 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:57,640 had to, 123 00:06:58,180 --> 00:06:59,080 John C Dvorak: yeah, that sucks. 124 00:06:59,860 --> 00:07:02,520 Adam Curry: If you're selling stuff, yes, it kind of does. 125 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,060 John C Dvorak: And that should be illegal. Actually, 126 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,200 Adam Curry: of course it should be. So a couple of observations, 127 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,700 shorter than I thought he was. I thought he was a much taller 128 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:16,500 guy. For some reason he 129 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:18,420 John C Dvorak: looked to be about five six to me, yeah, 130 00:07:18,420 --> 00:07:19,680 that's about maybe five 131 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,420 Adam Curry: seven. Little bit tall enough, but I thought he 132 00:07:21,420 --> 00:07:26,240 was kind of like six foot plus, you know, and severe. I mean, 133 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,460 severe. ADHD, this guy can't, can't look in one direction for 134 00:07:31,460 --> 00:07:34,340 more than three seconds. He's all over the map. You think it's 135 00:07:34,340 --> 00:07:39,140 Tourette's? No, it's just, it's real. ADHD, no, not Tourette's. 136 00:07:39,140 --> 00:07:45,040 But as he was speaking, I figured out he has a superpower. 137 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,980 He was telling some of his history, some of it's well 138 00:07:47,980 --> 00:07:53,020 known, but at one point he was a professional card counter in 139 00:07:53,020 --> 00:07:58,060 Vegas. I could see that, yes, and so this is why he got 140 00:07:58,060 --> 00:08:01,620 involved in these voting machines, because he could see 141 00:08:01,620 --> 00:08:04,440 the deviations, and he, you know, you know how people have 142 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,460 that insight. They can 143 00:08:05,460 --> 00:08:07,800 John C Dvorak: look at a spreadsheet. It's always beyond 144 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,580 me, but yes, I have talked about this on the show, about how 145 00:08:11,580 --> 00:08:15,840 people can see what. They can see radio waves. They can 146 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,100 visualize radio waves. They can visualize like good friend of 147 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:24,440 mine can visualize every, every signal on a on a bus, like a 148 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,520 computer card bus. You can see that you can look at these 149 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,060 signals, you can see Whoa, that's not going to work, or, or 150 00:08:32,060 --> 00:08:34,460 every so often that's going to Oh, that's a conflict. That's 151 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,800 Adam Curry: that's a little beyond what Mike Lindell can do. 152 00:08:37,580 --> 00:08:37,940 Well, 153 00:08:38,540 --> 00:08:40,960 John C Dvorak: I'm just saying there are people out there with 154 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:43,240 weird, whoa, 155 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,240 Adam Curry: that counts for two. That's a double weird that you I 156 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,420 didn't say two. I didn't say it twice, no, but it was so long 157 00:08:49,420 --> 00:08:51,280 and so pronounced, I think it's no, no. 158 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:56,020 John C Dvorak: I only got counted for one. One, okay, but 159 00:08:56,020 --> 00:09:01,860 I'm just saying it's astonishing to me that these skills exist so 160 00:09:01,860 --> 00:09:05,520 he can and, oh, he went, just one more thing. People who have 161 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,420 this skill, these, whatever they are, the, you know, this natural 162 00:09:09,420 --> 00:09:13,080 skills, they don't even know it. You almost have to point it out 163 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,440 to him. Well, he knows it. And, and, you know what, after they 164 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,980 get older, yeah, at some point you go, Wow. I thought everyone 165 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:21,440 could do this. So 166 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,260 Adam Curry: he that's why he was looking at the vote. Says, no, 167 00:09:24,260 --> 00:09:28,040 no, this is and so that makes sense. And he dove what he 168 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,120 spent, $40 million invest of his Oh, he says, my life savings, 169 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,480 which I believe that sounds about right. He spent. And you 170 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,000 just send money to people. Go ahead. Go investigate that. Go 171 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,520 investigate that. And he had example after example, of like, 172 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,080 Philadelphia, you know, there were 173 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,720 John C Dvorak: 80, yes, I remember during this, this 174 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,860 controversial era he was in, because he was on a lot of us, 175 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,660 he was out there. Fox won't even have him on anymore. No would 176 00:09:55,660 --> 00:09:58,900 have him on. Oh, really. C span, and he would go on there with 177 00:09:58,900 --> 00:10:02,280 these different experts. So they'd be discussing the details 178 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,940 of this. It was all including some statistical analysis guys. 179 00:10:05,940 --> 00:10:11,880 And this is not possible. They would exactly, exactly. So 180 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,580 Adam Curry: he was giving all these different examples in 181 00:10:14,580 --> 00:10:18,420 Philadelphia, 80 people who had voted were who were 115 years 182 00:10:18,420 --> 00:10:24,680 old, just which seems, which seems unlikely. He was 183 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:31,700 explaining how some people who would would initially run as an 184 00:10:31,820 --> 00:10:34,820 as a third party, independent in some districts, and then we're 185 00:10:34,820 --> 00:10:38,960 not even on the ballot, how they got votes, which, of course, is 186 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,600 how you take votes from one and have the other person win. So he 187 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,260 had, he actually says, he says this. He says, really, it's a 188 00:10:47,260 --> 00:10:50,860 godsend. He said that Trump lost, or we'd never know how bad 189 00:10:50,860 --> 00:10:53,560 the corruption really is, which I thought was an interesting 190 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:59,440 statement. He reminded us how years ago, Klobuchar and all 191 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,640 those, all those people were complaining about the very same 192 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,600 machines when they lost. Remember? Die bold. Die bold. 193 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:11,580 Yeah. And so his his whole pitch was, obviously, let's go back to 194 00:11:11,580 --> 00:11:16,200 paper ballots. And he said the he said, The worst thing is when 195 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,680 people show up to vote and then they say, No, you've already 196 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:23,780 voted. So his recommendation is, everybody, you should get your 197 00:11:23,780 --> 00:11:27,200 mail in ballot, but don't open the envelope. Just keep it 198 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,200 sealed and then take that with you when you go to vote on 199 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,040 voting day itself. And then if someone says, oh, you voted 200 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,760 already, say, Nope, here I am, and here's my sealed mail in 201 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,760 ballot. Oh, that's a good one tip, right? It's a good tip. And 202 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,780 John C Dvorak: what else that's assuming you don't want to just 203 00:11:46,780 --> 00:11:48,280 mail in the ballot. No, 204 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,520 Adam Curry: no, you don't want to do that. No, you want. He 205 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,180 says the most, yeah, he's he says it's a mess. Basically, he 206 00:11:55,180 --> 00:11:58,780 says it's a mess. These machines are no good. They're they've 207 00:11:58,780 --> 00:12:03,000 been falsified the world over. Like, okay, yeah, there you go. 208 00:12:03,420 --> 00:12:07,440 So a lot of oohs and ahs and then, you know, he did kind of 209 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,380 say, like, but really what matters is the electoral 210 00:12:10,380 --> 00:12:15,300 college. And I think that that that was a kind of passed over 211 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:19,080 people's heads, because they don't really realize, you know, 212 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,680 we all like, yeah, every vote I gotta count. Gotta get my vote 213 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:24,740 counted. But it doesn't matter, because it's the Electoral 214 00:12:24,740 --> 00:12:30,200 College who elects the president, and each state, the 215 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:37,700 legislature determines how those electors are nominated. So the 216 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:41,260 hope is that the Republican Party has their ground game 217 00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:47,320 together in the states where it matters. Because, I mean, this 218 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,160 is how you can win the the popular vote and lose the 219 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,740 election, is through our electoral college. I don't think 220 00:12:53,740 --> 00:12:55,780 people really understand how that works. 221 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,960 John C Dvorak: Well, we try to explain it on the show over and 222 00:12:58,960 --> 00:12:59,140 over, 223 00:12:59,140 --> 00:13:00,720 Adam Curry: yeah, why don't you give it another stab. You're 224 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:01,500 pretty good at 225 00:13:02,940 --> 00:13:05,640 John C Dvorak: it. I'm not that good. Yes, you are. The 226 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,960 electoral college is the is a slate of electors that choose 227 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,160 the president based on each of the states having a certain 228 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,700 number of electoral votes that they can give to the Electoral 229 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:23,060 College and and the idea is, is to minimize the large states 230 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,180 hogging because they'll have they're overloaded with, with 231 00:13:26,180 --> 00:13:32,840 people hogging the popular vote. So if it was just all popular 232 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,800 vote, 90% of the time, it would be deterred. The President would 233 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,680 be determined by California and New York, two or three other big 234 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:44,320 states, right? And little states like Wyoming, South Dakota, 235 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,140 North Dakota, these places, we just whatever they want. It 236 00:13:47,140 --> 00:13:50,560 doesn't matter. The idea was, is to balance it a little bit and 237 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:54,640 to prevent the corruption of these large states which get 238 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,820 corrupted over time. As you can tell, anyone who's been lives in 239 00:13:57,820 --> 00:14:00,900 California and New York with these big, giant states, they've 240 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:03,300 been taken. They usually have been captured by one of the 241 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:06,360 parties, generally the Democrats. They do the better 242 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,440 job of it. And so they would just throw all their votes into 243 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,760 the Electoral College, or the popular vote. And but the thing 244 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,900 is, the Electoral College votes do not necessarily represent on 245 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:23,780 a one to one basis the popular vote, right? So you can get so 246 00:14:23,780 --> 00:14:27,320 by manipulating the Electoral College and just making sure you 247 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,780 win certain states in the upcoming election, that's where 248 00:14:29,780 --> 00:14:33,020 they're called swing states, you win those you can win the whole 249 00:14:33,020 --> 00:14:36,380 election, whether you get the popular vote or not. Now, 250 00:14:36,380 --> 00:14:39,620 sometimes the popular vote does go the way the winner goes, 251 00:14:39,620 --> 00:14:44,860 which like Reagan did that, and I think Bush did it once, and 252 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,260 generally speaking, to the Democrats, when the popular 253 00:14:47,260 --> 00:14:48,400 vote, because giant states, 254 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,320 Adam Curry: let's say so. In a state like let's take 255 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,460 Pennsylvania, if the if there are more votes for let's just 256 00:14:54,460 --> 00:15:00,180 say Harris the Electoral College can still give their vote. To 257 00:15:00,180 --> 00:15:03,840 Trump, correct? They don't have to. Actually depends on their 258 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:06,060 specific law, on their laws, right? 259 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,620 John C Dvorak: Generally speaking, no, they can't just do 260 00:15:10,620 --> 00:15:14,880 that. But it turns out, in this upcoming election, according to 261 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,900 everybody, Pennsylvania is the key state. That's why they talk 262 00:15:18,900 --> 00:15:23,360 about it so much, right? And Trump can win without winning 263 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:29,000 Pennsylvania, according to these guys, really. But yes, but 264 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,140 Harris can't. 265 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,640 Adam Curry: Well, Pennsylvania was certainly helping her out. 266 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,920 If you saw the local Philadelphia ABC station, 267 00:15:41,060 --> 00:15:43,360 John C Dvorak: which, oh, the one that did the, the the 268 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,140 interview with her, 269 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,360 Adam Curry: well, so they did, and I don't know how this 270 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,440 happened, but they, they did an interview. The raw interview was 271 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,980 published, which, yeah, even with the even with the count, 272 00:15:53,980 --> 00:15:57,340 no, even with the countdown of the camera and everything. So, 273 00:15:57,340 --> 00:15:58,600 yeah. And so I say 274 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,080 John C Dvorak: somebody took it from the studio, yes. So I have 275 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,380 to, I have a I have the begin. I have both these clips. 276 00:16:04,380 --> 00:16:07,020 Adam Curry: Oh, well, I have them too. Do you have? How long 277 00:16:07,020 --> 00:16:08,400 are yours? Well, mine, 278 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,980 John C Dvorak: I tried to keep them short, because the point 279 00:16:10,980 --> 00:16:13,860 can be made easily without having to play the whole thing. 280 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,300 I was pretty boring. Let's 281 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:18,900 Adam Curry: lose, let's use yours then. Kamala, oh, gee, 282 00:16:19,020 --> 00:16:19,200 which 283 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,340 John C Dvorak: when you went, here's this. I have the two, 284 00:16:22,340 --> 00:16:22,640 yeah, 285 00:16:22,940 --> 00:16:24,620 Adam Curry: we'll play the OG first. I 286 00:16:24,620 --> 00:16:29,900 John C Dvorak: thought, yes, the OG, the original quality, yeah, 287 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,440 Adam Curry: did you pan it? Or do I have to pan it? 288 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,900 John C Dvorak: I did what I could. Okay, all right, but it's 289 00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:43,840 going to be a little lopsided, not too bad. But this is a this 290 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,720 is the way that this is then. This is the beginning. This is 291 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,960 the beginning of the interview and how it started. Here we go 292 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:50,200 when 293 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,060 Unknown: we talk about bringing down 294 00:16:52,060 --> 00:16:55,960 prices and making life more affordable for people. What are 295 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,360 one or two specific things you have in mind for that? 296 00:16:59,260 --> 00:16:59,800 Well, I'll 297 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,500 start with this. I grew up a middle class kid. My mother 298 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:08,880 raised my sister and me. She worked very hard. She was able 299 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,480 to finally save up enough money to buy our first house when I 300 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,800 was a teenager. I grew up in a community of hard working 301 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,600 people, you know, construction workers and nurses and teachers 302 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,260 and I try to explain to some people who may not have had the 303 00:17:24,260 --> 00:17:28,160 same experience, you know, if, but a lot of people will relate 304 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,040 to this, you know, I grew up in a neighborhood of folks who were 305 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:38,840 very proud of their lawn, you know. And and I was raised to 306 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,720 believe and to know that all people deserve dignity. Now, 307 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,260 Adam Curry: just as a little aside, with this clip, we can 308 00:17:47,260 --> 00:17:51,520 confidently say that she was very good at memorizing her 309 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:56,260 prosecutorial lines in the debate I had to talk 10 people 310 00:17:56,260 --> 00:18:01,200 off the ledge last night about the earrings. Oh, sorry, Adam. 311 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,500 Adam, did you think that they were the she doesn't need to be 312 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:10,200 prompted on that. What good would that be? No, no, those 313 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,140 were just elitist, expensive earrings. Oh, if 314 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:16,260 John C Dvorak: you're gonna use that technology, you get an ear 315 00:18:16,260 --> 00:18:16,680 wig, 316 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,860 Adam Curry: all different kinds of ways to do it. Yeah, you 317 00:18:19,860 --> 00:18:21,920 John C Dvorak: get it. There is the, you know, this crazy 318 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,460 earring story. Anyway, so that's the way she starts off, and it 319 00:18:25,460 --> 00:18:28,820 goes on and on. And this goes on and on with this 11, oh, you 320 00:18:28,820 --> 00:18:31,460 need dignity. And then, if this, she starts, then she starts 321 00:18:31,460 --> 00:18:34,700 generalizing about one thing. Here is the way they presented 322 00:18:34,700 --> 00:18:39,560 the same, the same this. They edited that whole part. They 323 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,340 just edited her. They took it all out, and here's what you 324 00:18:42,340 --> 00:18:42,700 got. 325 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,480 Adam Curry: And before I play it, I want to explain the use of 326 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:51,100 naughties and edits, because you can hear in this audio how they 327 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:53,740 because you watch the whole 11 minutes, what you're about to 328 00:18:53,740 --> 00:18:57,340 hear was not all set in succession. They edited this 329 00:18:57,340 --> 00:19:02,160 together as well, and just briefly. When you go sit down 330 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,420 and interview someone with a one camera, you do the interview. 331 00:19:06,420 --> 00:19:09,180 Usually you're the interviewer. The cameras over your shoulder 332 00:19:09,180 --> 00:19:11,940 on the subject, and then when the subject is gone, because 333 00:19:11,940 --> 00:19:16,200 they always have very little time, then you you do the intro. 334 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,080 Then they're going to switch the camera around. You do the intro, 335 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,560 and then you're going to do what are called noddies, like 336 00:19:23,540 --> 00:19:26,540 nodding. You're nodding. You're nodding your head yes. You put 337 00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:29,660 your hand on your chin. Oh, interesting. And then that can 338 00:19:29,660 --> 00:19:33,680 be interspersed so you don't see the edits of this one camera 339 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,620 shot that you have of the subject. So when you hear 340 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,920 there's some obvious edits in here, in the answer itself, 341 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,420 besides losing that whole front end, and they put a naughty in 342 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,920 when we talk about bringing down prices and making life more 343 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,040 affordable for people, what are one or two specific things you 344 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,000 have in mind for that? 345 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:56,080 Unknown: So when I talk about building an opportunity economy, 346 00:19:56,140 --> 00:20:01,500 it is very much with the mind of invest. In the ambitions and 347 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:04,980 aspirations and the incredible work ethic of the American 348 00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:05,460 people. Oh, 349 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,620 Adam Curry: man, do you mind if I play a little bit of the 350 00:20:07,620 --> 00:20:10,740 longer edit? Did you hear all the edits they put in that 351 00:20:10,740 --> 00:20:11,160 thing? 352 00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:15,120 John C Dvorak: You might as well. But the point is, is that 353 00:20:16,260 --> 00:20:19,920 the funny thing to me is that even the edited version of 354 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,260 disaster still 355 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:26,240 Unknown: we talk about bringing down prices and making life more 356 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,360 affordable for people, what are one or two specific things you 357 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:31,220 have in mind? I'll ring the bell on every edit. 358 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,780 When I talk about building an opportunity economy, it is very 359 00:20:35,780 --> 00:20:40,520 much with the mind of investing in the ambitions and aspirations 360 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,620 and the incredible work ethic of the American people and creating 361 00:20:44,620 --> 00:20:47,200 opportunity for people, for example, to start a small 362 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:52,600 business. So my opportunity economy plan includes giving 363 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:58,660 startups a $50,000 tax deduction to start their small business. 364 00:20:58,660 --> 00:21:01,740 It used to be $5,000 nobody can start a small business with 365 00:21:01,740 --> 00:21:05,700 $5,000 opportunity economy means, look, we don't have 366 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:08,760 enough housing in America. We have a housing supply shortage. 367 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:11,940 And what that means, in particular, for so many younger 368 00:21:11,940 --> 00:21:16,200 Americans, the American Dream is elusive. It's just actually not 369 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,860 attainable. To help people who just want to get their foot in 370 00:21:19,860 --> 00:21:24,740 the door, literally and so giving first time home buyers a 371 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:30,740 $25,000 down payment assistance, another plan that I have that is 372 00:21:30,740 --> 00:21:36,440 a new approach, is to expand the child tax credit to $6,000 for 373 00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:39,560 young families for the first year of their child's Life. 374 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,180 Adam Curry: It's better when you see the video. But anyway, they 375 00:21:43,180 --> 00:21:46,360 so, they really, they really did a good job helping her. 376 00:21:47,740 --> 00:21:51,160 John C Dvorak: Well, do you think so? Because she's she 377 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,680 still didn't answer the question, and her answer to, how 378 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,780 do you get gonna fight inflation, which is what 379 00:21:55,780 --> 00:21:58,960 question was, just by throwing more money at it? Yes. 380 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,000 Adam Curry: Well, yeah. I mean, what I'm saying is they helped 381 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:03,720 her by 382 00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:07,020 John C Dvorak: they at least sounded less like less, yeah, 383 00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:07,680 less like an 384 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,460 Adam Curry: idiot, exactly. Now, her vice presidential candidate, 385 00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:15,720 on the other hand, really tried to help her. But the truth kind 386 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,600 of came out, because this started, and I love this story 387 00:22:18,660 --> 00:22:21,500 as a young prosecutor. You 388 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,040 John C Dvorak: I have listened to that thing a million times. 389 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,440 It sounds like she's he's saying prosecutor, 390 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,860 Adam Curry: I think it's prostitutor, because this Yes, 391 00:22:30,860 --> 00:22:33,440 because it was suggested to you, I know, but listen again, 392 00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:34,460 because this started, 393 00:22:34,460 --> 00:22:37,760 Unknown: and I love this story as a young prosecutor. No, 394 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:39,020 John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. 395 00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:45,280 Adam Curry: It's one of those blue dress, silver dress things. 396 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,240 It's great. When someone says prostitutor, then that's all you 397 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:49,660 can hear. 398 00:22:49,660 --> 00:22:52,480 John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, especially if you suggest it so 399 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,100 you have an LP going on. 400 00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:57,220 Adam Curry: That's the whole idea. That's why it's so good. 401 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,320 Unknown: But yes, 402 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,920 John C Dvorak: I know I saw it too. Very funny across the 403 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:05,520 tutor. 404 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,920 Adam Curry: And you know, do you think that Hillary Clinton is 405 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:16,140 vying for a spot in the cabinet? Should Kamala Harris be elected? 406 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,140 John C Dvorak: I don't think so. No, you 407 00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:20,040 Adam Curry: don't think she would lie. 408 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,800 John C Dvorak: What were you, what did? What are you making? 409 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,180 Much making you think this way? 410 00:23:23,180 --> 00:23:26,420 Adam Curry: Well, she, she, she's out with her book, and 411 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,200 she's, she wants 412 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,140 John C Dvorak: to sell more books, some money maker, yeah, 413 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,920 Adam Curry: yeah. But I was just thinking maybe back to Secretary 414 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,180 of State against and she was 415 00:23:35,180 --> 00:23:37,340 John C Dvorak: so no, it's never gonna happen. Wow. 416 00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:40,400 Adam Curry: You think she's completely done? 417 00:23:41,180 --> 00:23:41,800 Unknown: Yeah? Do 418 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,500 Adam Curry: you don't think she Hill dogs got some fight left in 419 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:44,680 her? 420 00:23:44,740 --> 00:23:48,040 John C Dvorak: No Hill dog, it has no fight left in her. Would 421 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,380 you like to hear I don't think she wants to deal with it, 422 00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:52,660 because she can't. The only reason she was Secretary of 423 00:23:52,660 --> 00:23:55,060 State, because it was supposed to be a stepping stone to be 424 00:23:55,060 --> 00:23:58,240 president, and since she didn't get that, and now she's got this 425 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,780 camel situation where she's going to ruin it for all women 426 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:05,040 for the next 20 years. Yeah, probably figures out. What's the 427 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:05,520 point? 428 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,520 Adam Curry: Here's a here's a little bit of the promo, the 429 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,620 book tour. Morning Joe, former 430 00:24:10,620 --> 00:24:13,200 Unknown: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, has a new book 431 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,700 coming up, and Morning Joe has an exclusive first look at one 432 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,560 key part of it, the book entitled something lost, 433 00:24:21,620 --> 00:24:26,660 something gained, reflections on life, love and liberty. Clinton 434 00:24:26,660 --> 00:24:31,460 was reporting the audiobook When news broke that President Biden 435 00:24:31,460 --> 00:24:34,100 had dropped out of the race for the White House. So 436 00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:38,840 coincidental, she decided to record her first reaction to 437 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,480 that monumental shift presidential politics on july 21 438 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,100 2024 when Joe Biden announced he was dropping out of the 439 00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:52,300 presidential race and endorsing Kamala Harris, the dream of 440 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:56,320 seeing a woman in the Oval Office was suddenly back within 441 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,960 reach. It wouldn't be me, but it could be Kamala. History 442 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,680 beckoned, but a whole lot of bigotry, fear and 443 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,120 disinformation, not to mention the Electoral College stood in 444 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:12,660 the way. Could we do it? Could we find why 445 00:25:12,660 --> 00:25:14,940 Adam Curry: would she say not to mention the Electoral College 446 00:25:14,940 --> 00:25:17,040 stood in the way? Why would she even mention that? 447 00:25:17,940 --> 00:25:19,860 John C Dvorak: Well, they're out to get the Electoral College, 448 00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:24,080 and with the help of the media. I This is one of the aspect of 449 00:25:24,140 --> 00:25:27,320 the Electoral College I didn't mention, which is that it's it's 450 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,140 not good for business. Go for 451 00:25:30,140 --> 00:25:32,420 Adam Curry: the invite for business. You mean their 452 00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:34,220 business. For the 453 00:25:34,220 --> 00:25:39,140 John C Dvorak: business of advertising. For example, if you 454 00:25:39,140 --> 00:25:41,920 had a if everything was done by the by the popular vote, then 455 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,300 you would then Trump would be advertising in California, which 456 00:25:47,140 --> 00:25:50,620 is a done deal. California is sold. It's done. It's going to 457 00:25:50,620 --> 00:25:54,640 go for the Democrat, whoever the Democrat is. New York's going to 458 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,940 go for the Democrat, whoever the Democrat is. But if it was, if 459 00:25:57,940 --> 00:26:01,980 the Electoral College was gone, now, the advertising has to be 460 00:26:01,980 --> 00:26:05,580 more spread around, a little more. In fact, you might even 461 00:26:05,580 --> 00:26:06,900 need more advertising 462 00:26:07,140 --> 00:26:10,620 Unknown: Ken, not to mention the Electoral College stood in the 463 00:26:10,620 --> 00:26:15,780 way. Could we do it? Could we finally shatter that highest, 464 00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:20,480 hardest glass ceiling and prove that in America there is no 465 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,160 limit to what is possible. When Bill and I heard the news, we 466 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,820 were pissed off that Biden was withdrawing and endorsing 467 00:26:28,820 --> 00:26:34,160 Kamala, we drafted a joint statement saluting him and also 468 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:39,620 endorsing her. She is talented, experienced and ready to be 469 00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:42,760 president, so it was an easy decision. 470 00:26:44,380 --> 00:26:45,820 John C Dvorak: What was the best thing? 471 00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:48,220 Adam Curry: She said, easy decision. 472 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,100 John C Dvorak: It wasn't easy, or wasn't, no, 473 00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:53,860 Adam Curry: was, I think she would say, was, it was an easy 474 00:26:53,860 --> 00:26:56,620 decision. I can play the last bit again, experienced 475 00:26:56,860 --> 00:27:00,220 Unknown: and ready to be president. So it was an easy 476 00:27:00,220 --> 00:27:01,260 decision. There's a little 477 00:27:01,260 --> 00:27:04,080 Adam Curry: laugh in there. That's why that's probably, it's 478 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,960 a laughter. It wasn't easy decision. 479 00:27:09,180 --> 00:27:13,320 Unknown: Laughter, experienced and ready to be president, so it 480 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,060 was an easy decision. 481 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,300 John C Dvorak: Why would you Yeah, there's a laughter, and 482 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,120 it's an easy decision to what say I say to right away. It was 483 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:26,600 an easy decision for her to say, I'm a Democrat and I'm endorsing 484 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,140 the Democrat presidential candidate. Yeah, yes, 485 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,560 Adam Curry: I think that's it. You want to hear more? I have 486 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,980 another minute? Yeah, sure, yeah. Why not? Some 487 00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:40,660 Unknown: people have asked how I feel about the prospect of 488 00:27:40,780 --> 00:27:43,120 another woman poised like a robot. 489 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,200 John C Dvorak: Yes, it's 490 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,600 Adam Curry: not a great read of the book. She's not a good 491 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,920 reader. No, some people 492 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,280 Unknown: have asked how I feel about the prospect of another 493 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,780 woman poised to achieve the breakthrough. I didn't, if I'm 494 00:27:55,780 --> 00:28:00,960 being honest, in the years after 2016 I also wondered how I would 495 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,040 feel if another woman ever took the torch that I had carried so 496 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,900 far and ran on with it. 497 00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:11,400 Adam Curry: She's a torch bearer with some 498 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:17,340 Unknown: little voice deep down inside. Whisper is that should 499 00:28:17,340 --> 00:28:22,220 have been me. That should have been me. Now I know the answer. 500 00:28:22,220 --> 00:28:25,580 It should have been me. After I got off the phone with the Vice 501 00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:30,500 President, I looked at bill with a huge smile and said, Are you 502 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:35,300 dead yet? This is exciting. I felt promise. I felt 503 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:40,900 possibility. It was exhilarating when I imagined Kamala standing 504 00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:41,920 before the Capitol 505 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,620 John C Dvorak: on his second this is such a long does anybody 506 00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:45,820 believe this? 507 00:28:45,940 --> 00:28:50,140 Adam Curry: Not for a second. It was exhilarating, and I so happy 508 00:28:50,140 --> 00:28:53,500 for her and Kamala. I was so happy 509 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,100 Unknown: when I imagined Kamala standing before the Capitol next 510 00:28:57,100 --> 00:29:01,680 January, taking the oath of office as our first woman 511 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:11,520 president, my heart leaps. Dick Cheney's after hard years of 512 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,720 division, it will prove that our best days are still ahead and 513 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,560 that we are making progress on our long journey toward a more 514 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,200 perfect union, and it will make such a difference in the lives 515 00:29:24,260 --> 00:29:27,080 of hardworking people everywhere. Yeah, it's 516 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,140 Adam Curry: about to get harder for now, thinking 517 00:29:30,140 --> 00:29:31,760 Unknown: about this momentous she didn't 518 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,620 John C Dvorak: say to make a positive difference, it'll 519 00:29:33,620 --> 00:29:36,200 Adam Curry: make a difference. She knows the truth. It's going 520 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,640 to be bad for 521 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,080 Unknown: now, thinking about this momentous period, I find 522 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,520 myself turning back to where this book began, as Joni 523 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,900 Mitchell sang all those years ago, something's lost, but 524 00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:52,600 something's gained. Hello, 525 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,700 John C Dvorak: Boomer. Joni Mitchell one of her great 526 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:57,880 sayings of something's lost, something's game. Wow, yes, 527 00:29:57,940 --> 00:29:58,300 yeah. 528 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,920 Adam Curry: Boomer reference, if I've ever heard. One for Joni 529 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,680 Mitchell, throwing a lot of more sat and you still old, I'm 530 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,500 telling you. Wow. 531 00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:16,680 John C Dvorak: Is that supposed to appeal to Joni Mitchell is 532 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,120 Adam Curry: to the MSNBC crowd. I'm sure they, I'm sure they 533 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:25,220 eaten it up. They love it. Meanwhile, Trump had a very 534 00:30:25,220 --> 00:30:30,080 interesting talk at the New York, the Economic Club of New 535 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,520 York. Yeah, that 536 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,780 John C Dvorak: was a couple weeks ago. 537 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,100 Adam Curry: I hadn't seen this. Oh, you missed out as I pulled 538 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:40,720 the clip, because I like the question about tariffs, which 539 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,640 is, you know, was one of the big so called debate questions about 540 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,360 tariffs. 541 00:30:46,780 --> 00:30:49,960 John C Dvorak: Well, and, you know, I have a pre clip, a pre 542 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,680 clip, okay, before you play that, all right, my list, 543 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:57,340 Adam Curry: let's hear that list. It's paper. Uh, 544 00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:03,900 John C Dvorak: this is this, this. This was not discussed in 545 00:31:04,140 --> 00:31:08,340 the mainstream media, and I just think it's funny. I caught it 546 00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:12,960 off NHK, play this clip, and then you can talk about 547 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,680 terrorists. Biden did what TF 548 00:31:17,940 --> 00:31:20,840 Unknown: the administration of US President Joe Biden has 549 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,620 finalized a decision to raise tariffs on Chinese electric 550 00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:30,440 vehicles from 25 to 100% starting on September 27 the 551 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,840 office of the US Trade Representative announced the 552 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,860 move on Friday. Additionally, tariffs on lithium ion EV 553 00:31:36,860 --> 00:31:43,060 batteries will rise from 7.5 to 25% and on solar cells from 25 554 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,280 to 50% the office said the hikes were made after reviewing public 555 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,200 comments, Biden announced plans in May to increase tariffs on a 556 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,160 range of Chinese imports, citing the need to protect us workers 557 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,960 from what he Calls China's unfair trade practices. Well, 558 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,400 isn't that interesting? 559 00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:03,060 Adam Curry: Isn't 560 00:32:03,060 --> 00:32:06,060 John C Dvorak: that interesting? And how come nobody's discussed 561 00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:09,300 this? Because they made such a fuss about Trump terrorists, 562 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:09,900 Trump, know, the 563 00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:11,040 Adam Curry: Trump tax, 564 00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:14,100 John C Dvorak: the Trump tax, yeah. But meanwhile, Biden, not 565 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:18,480 only that, but the 100% on EVs is exactly what Trump was doing, 566 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:18,780 yeah. 567 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,720 Adam Curry: Well, so why wouldn't so they couldn't make 568 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,240 any noise about it, and they did it anyway, like they really 569 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,740 care. They did it because they actually care. No, I don't 570 00:32:27,740 --> 00:32:31,760 believe that for a second. There has to be some kind of you know, 571 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,380 if anything hurts, 572 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,260 John C Dvorak: the fact that they did it at all, and the fact 573 00:32:36,260 --> 00:32:38,780 that the mainstream media refuses to discuss it says 574 00:32:38,780 --> 00:32:41,560 enough, because they've got this narrative they're stuck with. 575 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:41,860 Yeah, 576 00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:42,760 Adam Curry: says enough. 577 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,220 John C Dvorak: Who knows, yeah, 578 00:32:46,180 --> 00:32:48,580 Adam Curry: yeah. Well, maybe to ratchet up some tensions with 579 00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:52,360 China, got to get that thing going, after all, got to get 580 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:58,180 that China war going. So yeah. So Trump's at the Economic Club 581 00:32:58,180 --> 00:33:02,280 of New York, and he gets the question about tariffs. And his 582 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,460 answer, I thought was interesting, because it wasn't 583 00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:06,660 just about tariffs. The 584 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,560 Unknown: problem with what we have with sanctions. And I was a 585 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,020 user of sanctions, but I put them on and take them off as 586 00:33:13,020 --> 00:33:15,960 quickly as possible, because ultimately it kills your dollar 587 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,140 and kills everything the dollar represents. And we have to 588 00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:21,860 continue to have that be the world currency. I think it's 589 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,120 important. I think would be losing a war if we lost, if we 590 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,540 lost the dollar as the world currency. I think that would be 591 00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:33,020 the equivalent of losing a war that would make us a third world 592 00:33:33,020 --> 00:33:36,740 country. And we can't let it happen. So I use sanctions very 593 00:33:36,740 --> 00:33:39,920 powerfully against countries that deserve it, and then I take 594 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,780 them off. Because, look, you're losing Iran. You're losing 595 00:33:43,780 --> 00:33:47,140 Russia. China is out there trying to get their currency to 596 00:33:47,140 --> 00:33:50,980 be the dominant currency, as you know better than anybody, all of 597 00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:53,440 these things are happening. You're losing so many countries, 598 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,500 because there's so much conflict with all of these countries that 599 00:33:56,500 --> 00:34:00,120 you're going to lose that, and we can't lose that. So I want to 600 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,540 use sanctions as little as possible. One of the things that 601 00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:08,820 we have with tariffs is that I'll say to them, you don't 602 00:34:08,820 --> 00:34:12,360 honor the dollar as your world currency. Is that? Right? You're 603 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,060 not going to do it. No, we're not. I said that's okay. I'm 604 00:34:15,060 --> 00:34:17,580 going to put tariffs all over your product, and they're going 605 00:34:17,580 --> 00:34:19,980 to say, Sir, we'd love to honor the dollar as the world 606 00:34:19,980 --> 00:34:26,480 currency. You know, tariffs, in addition to monetary and the 607 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,180 money that will take in, which will be bigger than you've ever 608 00:34:29,180 --> 00:34:32,300 seen in this country before, gives you tremendous political 609 00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:37,700 power. Like that. As an example, I stopped wars with the threat 610 00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:38,480 of tariffs. 611 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,220 Adam Curry: So, you know, we forget about that. But Russia, I 612 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,180 mean, it was kind of crazy that they were kicked off the SWIFT 613 00:34:46,180 --> 00:34:51,460 system. I mean that, and which, by the way, Europe had more of a 614 00:34:51,460 --> 00:34:55,960 hand in than we did. It's like, what was the point of that? If, 615 00:34:56,020 --> 00:34:59,140 if you don't want to screw the dollar, which also, for Europe, 616 00:34:59,140 --> 00:35:04,680 makes no. Um, no sense. That's obvious to me, seeing as the 617 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,240 Euro Dollar is the thing. 618 00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:11,040 John C Dvorak: Well, the Europeans don't like us have and 619 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,800 the proper term is reserve currency. Yes, 620 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,840 Adam Curry: not the world world currency. It's Trump, the world 621 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,620 currency. 622 00:35:21,420 --> 00:35:23,660 John C Dvorak: I know I've never, I'm never going to be 623 00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:27,440 convinced that the Europeans are going to work and do anything in 624 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,160 our favor. 625 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:34,280 Adam Curry: Well, no, in fact, it looks to me more and more 626 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,760 because, you know, this is, it's not really well explained, this 627 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,220 long range missile stuff, but there's, there's more than one 628 00:35:42,220 --> 00:35:47,080 kind of long range missile, and the one that the US talks about 629 00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:48,220 is the atacms. 630 00:35:48,460 --> 00:35:52,060 John C Dvorak: The atacms, well, they have the atacms, yeah, but 631 00:35:52,060 --> 00:35:52,360 that's 632 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,180 Adam Curry: not what's being talked about. No, of course, not 633 00:35:55,420 --> 00:35:58,840 so well. Actually, I have a couple NPR clips just to bring 634 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,120 us up to speed on this long range missiles issue with 635 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,020 Ukraine. Putin 636 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:07,320 Unknown: said this week, such an approval of long range missiles 637 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,340 inside Russia will show NATO is at war with Russia. Now, there's 638 00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:13,980 no question the White House has been worried about escalation 639 00:36:13,980 --> 00:36:17,520 from the start of the war two and a half years ago, and 640 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,100 there's always concern that Russia could possibly use 641 00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:22,820 nuclear weapons. We've heard that repeatedly. Most analysts 642 00:36:22,820 --> 00:36:25,220 say that's really highly unlikely. It's 643 00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:27,800 Adam Curry: unlikely, then don't be worried about it. But Putin 644 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,860 Unknown: has often made threats of escalation after pretty much 645 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,060 every weapon system sent to Ukraine by the West, Patriot 646 00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:39,020 missiles, F 16 tanks and so forth. But critics say the Biden 647 00:36:39,020 --> 00:36:42,280 administration has been too slow in providing Ukraine with the 648 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,660 necessary tools, too incremental and too concerned about 649 00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:51,220 escalation. Now Scott what's changed recently is in making 650 00:36:51,220 --> 00:36:54,880 approval of long range missiles more likely. Is the fact that 651 00:36:54,940 --> 00:36:58,480 Iran has just agreed to send hundreds of missiles to Russia, 652 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,980 and also they have trained Russian military personnel in 653 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,660 Iran. British Foreign Secretary David Lammy said that fact has 654 00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:08,340 quote changed the debate. 655 00:37:09,180 --> 00:37:11,340 Adam Curry: Oh, it's changed the debate. 656 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,560 John C Dvorak: I have a very I think Mitch. I don't know if 657 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,040 it's the same clip, but played my Ukraine use of missiles clip 658 00:37:19,740 --> 00:37:23,600 Unknown: from NPR. Ukraine is continuing to push Washington to 659 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,020 allow Kyiv to use long range weapons provided by Western 660 00:37:27,020 --> 00:37:29,240 countries inside Russia. 661 00:37:29,780 --> 00:37:33,080 John C Dvorak: Stop at the clip. The reason I want to play this 662 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,320 is because this is the same clip. It's not the same because 663 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,920 different person different Yeah, but the model for this clip is 664 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,320 the same as that. I could have gotten you 20 of these clips. 665 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,220 And it says the long range missiles out of that war is 666 00:37:48,220 --> 00:37:51,820 going to be with Iran, Russia at war on, and it's all because of 667 00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:57,100 Iran. Inside Iran, we pointed out the last show, Iran has been 668 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,120 providing Russia with drones and all these things we they're all 669 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,120 been identified. We discussed them in the newsletter with 670 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,360 pictures. I mean, this is not this Iran thing. They're trying 671 00:38:06,660 --> 00:38:10,260 to shoehorn it in. Is bull crap, yeah, but it makes 672 00:38:10,260 --> 00:38:12,060 Adam Curry: so much sense because they you can connect it 673 00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:14,760 to the Middle East, and you've got a Hootenanny countries 674 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,600 Unknown: inside Russia, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer met 675 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,500 with President Biden at the White House yesterday, but Biden 676 00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,660 hasn't issued a decision yet. By 677 00:38:23,660 --> 00:38:27,380 Adam Curry: the way, that guy who was meeting with Starmer and 678 00:38:27,980 --> 00:38:33,980 and and his Lloyd Austin, that was daddy longlegs. You can tell 679 00:38:33,980 --> 00:38:36,560 this a different hair in the back that was a different guy. 680 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,920 He's he's still decrepit, but not like the guy with the Trump 681 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,520 hat getting on the plane, that was a whole different Biden 682 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:48,520 altogether, who is running stuff here, and that daddy longlegs, 683 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,480 John C Dvorak: what the Donnelly brothers, whoever those guys 684 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,340 from Blackrock are running? Yeah, they're running 685 00:38:54,340 --> 00:38:57,460 Unknown: everything. And pierce Tom Bowman says new developments 686 00:38:57,460 --> 00:39:00,040 make this a tougher call for the President. 687 00:39:00,220 --> 00:39:04,140 What's changed recently is in making approval of long range 688 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,280 missiles more likely is the fact that Iran has just agreed to 689 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,460 send hundreds of missiles to Russia, and also they have 690 00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:14,940 trained Russian military personnel in Iran. British 691 00:39:14,940 --> 00:39:19,260 Foreign Secretary David Lammy said that fact has quote changed 692 00:39:19,260 --> 00:39:20,360 the debate. Meanwhile, 693 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,240 Russian President Putin says if those weapons are approved for 694 00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:26,840 use inside his country, that would mean NATO is at war with 695 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,740 Russia. So 696 00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:31,160 Adam Curry: I have an analysis of why Putin says NATO would 697 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,820 then be at war with Russia. This comes from the CBC Andrew 698 00:39:34,820 --> 00:39:37,760 rasulus, who we've played before for more now 699 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,260 Unknown: we're joined by Andrew Rasulullah. He is a fellow with 700 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,900 the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. He's also a retired 701 00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:46,480 official with the Canadian Department of National Defense. 702 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,300 So let's just start with these, with the threats being made by 703 00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:51,940 Russian President Vladimir Putin. Do you see them as 704 00:39:51,940 --> 00:39:52,420 credible? 705 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,260 Yes, because we have to look at the context here. What the what 706 00:39:56,260 --> 00:40:00,120 Putin has said is that these systems should the approval. Be 707 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:06,540 given. They require Western that is American, British support to 708 00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:09,600 fire them. They're not just like tanks. You see that you can give 709 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,960 the Ukrainians a German tank or an American tank, and the 710 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,320 Ukrainians run it. That's very different from these missile 711 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:21,260 systems, which require continual Western involvement through 712 00:40:21,260 --> 00:40:25,700 targeting analysis, data and firing mechanism, firing the 713 00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:28,820 whole system. The Ukrainians cannot do it on their own. They 714 00:40:28,820 --> 00:40:32,600 could only do this with the support that is hands on of the 715 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,900 Americans, the British or the French. And so Putin is saying, 716 00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:39,980 because of that, that constitutes, in effect, a state 717 00:40:39,980 --> 00:40:40,420 of war. 718 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,800 Adam Curry: Makes nothing but sense. I mean, it's already 719 00:40:45,220 --> 00:40:51,940 American mercenaries who are in the field and advisors, but this 720 00:40:51,940 --> 00:40:56,680 would be absolute proof that it is NATO behind all of this. 721 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:03,720 Meanwhile, the NATO gang all got together in Kyiv for the what do 722 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:05,100 you what are you hiring about? 723 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,580 John C Dvorak: I just realized I missed getting some clips of 724 00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:12,720 Stoltenberg. He just interviewed by Amanpour, and I was gonna go 725 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:16,200 back. Oh, that would have been good. Ah, you should have heard 726 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,660 this maniac. This guy's nuts. When is 727 00:41:18,660 --> 00:41:21,320 Adam Curry: the Dutch guy coming in? When's Stoltenberg stepping 728 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:21,980 down, isn't 729 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,320 John C Dvorak: No. Stoltenberg likes to go out. He was doing a 730 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,100 long interview with the banana and poor I've got, I will try to 731 00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:30,620 go back and just see if I can find it. They she does so much 732 00:41:30,620 --> 00:41:33,200 material, it's hard to get some of herself. They had 733 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,460 Adam Curry: the Yalta European strategy conference in Kyiv, 734 00:41:37,940 --> 00:41:40,900 which apparently is just safe enough to have everybody go over 735 00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:44,320 there, hang out that it was big. Everyone was there, hookers, the 736 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,040 whole deal, champagne, caviar, couple of those shrimp deals we 737 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:48,880 like so much. 738 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:52,000 John C Dvorak: Ah, the shrimp deals. Yeah, the shrimp pile, 739 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,800 the pile of shrimp on ice, pile 740 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,620 Adam Curry: of shrimp with caviar on top. And Deutsch 741 00:41:56,620 --> 00:42:00,900 Avella interviewed this guy. Oh, what a card. This is Professor 742 00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:08,040 Francis Fukuyama. And Fukuyama is some long term strategist. 743 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,860 He's in all the think tanks, Council and foreign relations, 744 00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:14,640 all those things. So he's out there advising, I guess, Blinken 745 00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:20,160 and anybody but the president, because the President doesn't 746 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,140 know what he's doing. So whoever is making decisions is not our 747 00:42:24,140 --> 00:42:28,700 President and this guy, this, this is the general attitude of 748 00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:34,340 the NATO, but I'd say, in this case, American elites of using 749 00:42:34,340 --> 00:42:36,620 these long range missiles. So everyone 750 00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:40,420 Unknown: is talking right now about the long range missiles 751 00:42:40,420 --> 00:42:44,980 that Ukraine is asking for. From your perspective, how important 752 00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:49,660 are these missiles really, and could they be game changer in 753 00:42:50,020 --> 00:42:52,840 the situation we are experiencing right now between 754 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,460 Russia and Ukraine? 755 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,320 I think the long range missiles are very important that will 756 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:05,340 allow Ukraine to put the whole of Crimea within range where 757 00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:09,360 Russian forces, that's one of their major operating bases, and 758 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,560 it's very important to be able to threaten Crimea. The other 759 00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:17,760 basic problem is that Russia has used its own territory as a 760 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,680 sanctuary. They can launch aircraft missiles from Russia, 761 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,520 but there's no way that Ukraine can fight back, and the only way 762 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,000 you're going to stop them from doing that is by targeting 763 00:43:30,020 --> 00:43:33,620 objectives in Russia itself. And you can't do this if you don't 764 00:43:33,620 --> 00:43:34,820 have those kinds of missiles. 765 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,840 So you would say that these missiles would be a game changer 766 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:39,680 in the panorama. Well, 767 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,220 you know, there's no single weapons system that is going to 768 00:43:42,220 --> 00:43:46,180 completely change the course of the war, but I think it will be 769 00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:46,720 very, very 770 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:50,200 Adam Curry: helpful, very helpful. So we have to bear in 771 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,080 mind that Ukraine has already been divvied up amongst the 772 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,600 largest corporations in the world, the Ukraine 773 00:43:55,780 --> 00:44:00,360 reconstruction project. I mean, everything the minerals that 774 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,900 Lindsey Graham keeps talking about. It's already all been 775 00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:07,380 divvied up. They've just got this Zelensky guy sitting in the 776 00:44:07,380 --> 00:44:10,740 middle. You know, try playing his part. Because the whole 777 00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:14,160 point is they want to own everything in Ukraine. 778 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:19,680 Ukrainians be damned. And the worst bread basket, and the 779 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,480 worst thing that can happen is if Trump comes into office, 780 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:29,540 because then, you know, it was like this one, mess it up. 781 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,840 Unknown: Do you think that if the Western Allies wouldn't put 782 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,380 so many conditions and limits on the support they're giving to 783 00:44:36,380 --> 00:44:41,260 Ukraine, do you think that the war could then be ended soon? I 784 00:44:41,260 --> 00:44:44,560 think that that's the only way that you're going to get any 785 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,400 kind of settlement that isn't a Russian victory. Yes, I think 786 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,540 that it's very important. 787 00:44:49,780 --> 00:44:52,120 Adam Curry: So interesting. He says that's the only way we'll 788 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,000 get any kind of settlement that isn't a Russian victory. He's 789 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,760 very important that there's a settlement because we don't want 790 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,480 to torch Ukraine, because there's good stuff there. That 791 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,740 we already own pre owned. We already got the down payment pre 792 00:45:04,740 --> 00:45:07,860 owned. It's all pre owned, so we can't have him rubbing 793 00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:09,420 everything. Yes, 794 00:45:09,420 --> 00:45:12,600 Unknown: I think that it's very limited. I wouldn't put very 795 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,620 many limits on them. I'm not quite sure you know what people 796 00:45:16,620 --> 00:45:19,800 are worried about at this point. But yeah, I think that they 797 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,640 should take off these constraints. One 798 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,680 last question, the upcoming elections in the United States. 799 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,020 So the government here, President zelenskyy, they're 800 00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:32,300 saying they would work either with Kamala Harris as a 801 00:45:32,300 --> 00:45:37,220 president or with Donald Trump. Do you think this would make a 802 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,580 big difference regarding where the war goes. Who will be 803 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,080 president next in 804 00:45:44,140 --> 00:45:47,680 the US? It's night, night and day. I mean, Donald Trump is on 805 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,220 the Russian side. So he's going to end the war by, you know, 806 00:45:51,220 --> 00:45:55,420 basically allowing Putin to get what he wants. So it's 807 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,840 But President Zelensky is saying that he could work with him. 808 00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,080 Well, 809 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,480 of course he has to say that, you know, he can't alienate 810 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,600 Trump before he's even elected, but I think that it's going to 811 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,780 be the disaster for Ukraine if Trump is elected. No, it's going 812 00:46:09,780 --> 00:46:13,320 Adam Curry: to be a disaster for you. For you, we can't have 813 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:18,360 Russia keeping all the good stuff that's ours. So so then, 814 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,100 for whatever reason, I think it's kind of obvious the US is 815 00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:30,080 like. And as we know from the Ukraine Israel so called border 816 00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:34,340 deal, or the Ukraine Israel funding bill, we know that the 817 00:46:34,340 --> 00:46:38,480 only person who can authorize the use of the atacms, the US 818 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,120 long range missiles, is the President, only the president at 819 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,780 his discretion. And now, at first I was thinking, you know, 820 00:46:47,140 --> 00:46:49,720 this could be kind of if they could hype this up enough, this 821 00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:54,160 could be a reason for Kamala to pull a quick 25th amendment. He 822 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,120 can't make that decision. He's too far gone. We can't have him. 823 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,980 And by the way, we can't have him making that decision. But it 824 00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:06,240 seems like the powers that be, the corporations who are running 825 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:10,620 our government, have decided, yeah, and yet, let's not do 826 00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:15,960 that. Let the Germans do it. Oh, sorry, this is Deutsche Bell 827 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,240 interviewing Boris Johnson 828 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,660 Unknown: for Germany for chance, or do you think it's time for 829 00:47:23,660 --> 00:47:25,520 the long range missiles coming from Germany? 830 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:35,780 I think that Olaf has done extraordinary things already. 831 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,460 Olaf Scholz, but I do think that the Taurus needs to be deployed 832 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:41,120 here. 833 00:47:41,180 --> 00:47:43,720 Adam Curry: I do think the Taurus needs to be deployed. The 834 00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:50,620 Taurus missile. That is a joint German French outfit that we I 835 00:47:50,620 --> 00:47:53,680 don't think we have anything to do with them, the Taurus 836 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,760 missiles. So, oh, US won't do it. Let the Germans kick off 837 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,080 world war three. Olaf, should go all come on. Olaf, you can do a 838 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,320 mail, you pussy man, come on. Come on, Olaf. Send them all 839 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,220 down three things 840 00:48:05,220 --> 00:48:08,760 Unknown: already. But I do think that the towers needs to be 841 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,360 deployed, and I hope very much that the German government will 842 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,180 do that. And but I also, you know, I think we all need to do 843 00:48:15,180 --> 00:48:18,900 more, and that includes the United Kingdom, United States, 844 00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:21,500 France. We all, and we all need to do more together, and I'm 845 00:48:21,500 --> 00:48:21,980 sure we will. 846 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,760 How important are the US elections for this war? 847 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:29,900 Trump, as I said just now, I hope very much that America will 848 00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:33,080 continue with the policy of supporting Ukraine. Whoever is 849 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,820 the whoever is the President 850 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,480 John C Dvorak: this okay, by the way, just as clarification, yes, 851 00:48:38,540 --> 00:48:42,520 the Taurus is a German, Swedish. Oh, Swedish. I'm sorry. Sarah 852 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,140 launched cruise missile. 853 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,400 Adam Curry: Yes, Swedish. I thought the French had a role in 854 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,880 it too. I guess that's it, all right, so, but it's the Germans. 855 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,100 They're egging on the Germans. Now, 856 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,040 John C Dvorak: the Germans are suckers for this sort of thing. 857 00:48:57,940 --> 00:48:58,060 You 858 00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:01,680 Adam Curry: think they've done it a couple of times. They're 859 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:02,640 going to start, yeah, 860 00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:06,180 John C Dvorak: they were totally suckered in World War One, and 861 00:49:06,180 --> 00:49:08,520 then they brought them brought it on themselves in World War 862 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,000 Two. Yeah, they have this tendency to fall into this. 863 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,820 Adam Curry: But, you know, I look at all this, this has 864 00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:17,640 nothing to do. Well, first of all, you can walk down any 865 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,620 street in Europe, any street in America, and say, Hey, do you 866 00:49:21,620 --> 00:49:25,520 hate Russians and people like, no, do you know any Russians? 867 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,760 Yeah, I know some Russians. Are they horrible, evil people? No, 868 00:49:29,420 --> 00:49:34,160 you can walk down Moscow. Do you hate Americans? No, this is, 869 00:49:34,220 --> 00:49:37,400 this is corporate. This is the College of corporations that 870 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,760 runs the system. It really is, and it all fits together. People 871 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,480 always say, Who's they? This is they? They are running this 872 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:51,820 show. And it's just agendas that fit together because you get the 873 00:49:51,820 --> 00:49:54,640 corporations that build this stuff, the corporations who are 874 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,840 going to own Ukraine. These corporations send money to 875 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:03,000 politicians for. Election funds that, and they get tons of money 876 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,600 into the into the lobbyists, all this plays back into Wall 877 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,480 Street. It plays back into the banks. It's only about dollars, 878 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:15,360 petrodollars, eurodollars, euros, pounds. Used to be Juan 879 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:21,200 and the rubles, this. It's all a business. And in a way, that's 880 00:50:21,260 --> 00:50:26,660 that's kind of why Trump is so hated, because he is not a dummy 881 00:50:26,660 --> 00:50:30,860 for the system, the way Harris is perfect. She's a dummy. She's 882 00:50:30,860 --> 00:50:34,040 dummy. She's a multi culty candidate. She's got all the 883 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,920 things you need. I mean, even the Republican and Democrat 884 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,080 Party, the whole idea is to give us the illusion that we're 885 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,540 voting for the lesser of two evils, and it's always some 886 00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:48,460 dummy. Yeah, it seems like the final goal is one big holding 887 00:50:48,460 --> 00:50:51,340 company that all these douchebags own a share of. 888 00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:53,980 That'll be That's your new world order, right there. 889 00:50:55,060 --> 00:50:58,600 John C Dvorak: So one of the things Stoltenberg said, he went 890 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,800 on and on about how great this war is, and how why it has to 891 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,540 continue. He says, because our end goal. He said this, our end 892 00:51:06,540 --> 00:51:11,220 goal is to make sure that Ukraine is is a member of NATO, 893 00:51:11,220 --> 00:51:15,000 yeah, and we want to expedite that, and that's the only reason 894 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,980 this war is going on. Yeah. Russia does not want them to be 895 00:51:19,980 --> 00:51:24,260 a member of NATO. They wanted, they want this just a neutral 896 00:51:24,260 --> 00:51:27,260 state there, and we want them to be a member of NATO. All you 897 00:51:27,260 --> 00:51:31,160 have to do is change that one variable to, okay, we're not 898 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,280 going to be a member of NATO, and the war is over. They can't 899 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,600 bring themselves to it. And what grossed me out was, NHK had a 900 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,420 one half hour, or even an hour, I couldn't watch more than 10 901 00:51:41,420 --> 00:51:46,720 minutes of it because it was making me sick of cell phone 902 00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:50,620 videos of the war in Ukraine taken by the Ukrainian soldiers. 903 00:51:50,740 --> 00:51:54,280 Adam Curry: Oh, you see that stuff? It's bad. Oh, 904 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,640 John C Dvorak: they have some guy jumping and they point out 905 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,780 some of the details as they as they show these cell phone 906 00:52:00,780 --> 00:52:05,040 videos. Russia has the the entire line there, where the 907 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:10,020 between the Donbas and Ukraine, yeah, just millions of land 908 00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:14,100 mines and all kinds of pits and holes and and and the 909 00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:17,580 Ukrainians. Meanwhile, if you see some of these videos, 910 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,160 they're in deep, you know, it's eight foot deep trenches. It 911 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:27,920 looks like World War one style fighting. It's a it's horrible, 912 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,800 and especially with would got me finally with some guy jumping 913 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,700 off of a tank to get to one of his buddies. And just as he 914 00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:40,180 jumped off, he landed right on can they had it, filmed it. This 915 00:52:40,180 --> 00:52:42,460 was, this is a mess. 916 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,220 Adam Curry: I've been seeing this, you know, for the past two 917 00:52:45,220 --> 00:52:49,120 years on these telegram channels. And you see all these 918 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,240 tanks get taken out all the time. It's like a joke, 919 00:52:52,780 --> 00:52:55,240 John C Dvorak: yeah, well, me imagine that all what you've 920 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:58,900 been watching over time is just compressed into a two a one hour 921 00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:04,500 special. Oh, God, in a NHK, Oh, yeah. 922 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,220 Adam Curry: Should get a link to that so people can watch it. 923 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:08,640 It's 924 00:53:09,060 --> 00:53:13,140 John C Dvorak: not like, I think sadistic to watch it, 925 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:18,120 Adam Curry: so just spitball in here. But if, if they send the 926 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,540 Taurus missiles in, I don't think you're going to get your 927 00:53:20,540 --> 00:53:23,720 flattened Eiffel Tower. They're going to blow something back up 928 00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:24,440 in Germany. 929 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,000 John C Dvorak: Well, maybe that was the plan all along when they 930 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:34,100 decided to shut down all the power plants, because you guys 931 00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:36,740 start blowing stuff up in Germany. You don't want all 932 00:53:36,740 --> 00:53:39,740 those things flying all over the place. And 933 00:53:39,740 --> 00:53:42,640 Adam Curry: one of octave, one of our producers in Germany sent 934 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,460 me a note. I don't have it here, but I can summarize it. He says, 935 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,600 It's so amazing how the psyop worked on the German people. And 936 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,080 they also, oh, no, Energiewende, oh, we all have to go to solar 937 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,400 and wind. They had the most advanced nuclear plants. They 938 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:02,940 were so hardened that they even did a demonstration by flying an 939 00:54:02,940 --> 00:54:06,480 airplane into one of these nuclear plants, just to show 940 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,680 that nothing would happen. They crashed an airplane into the 941 00:54:10,740 --> 00:54:15,120 into one of those, yeah, they were advanced. They were modern, 942 00:54:15,660 --> 00:54:18,540 and they just convinced the German public that was okay to 943 00:54:18,540 --> 00:54:19,260 shut them down. 944 00:54:20,580 --> 00:54:23,660 John C Dvorak: Wow, yeah. Well, the German public is seems 945 00:54:23,660 --> 00:54:28,340 susceptible to these sorts of programs more than any other 946 00:54:28,340 --> 00:54:30,080 people. Yeah. Well, 947 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:30,860 Adam Curry: they have guilds. I 948 00:54:30,860 --> 00:54:32,600 John C Dvorak: mean, I mean, I think the Americans are pretty 949 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,080 dumb too, 950 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,760 Adam Curry: but we're up there. We're up there, but this is, 951 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,860 I've not been worth and I, you know, I also don't think nuclear 952 00:54:41,860 --> 00:54:48,760 war is something that is likely to happen, but a full on war in 953 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:53,140 Europe, yeah, this seems quite possible, or at least expanded 954 00:54:53,140 --> 00:54:57,940 to Germany. This is so this is so insane, these people must be 955 00:54:57,940 --> 00:54:58,600 stopped. I. 956 00:55:01,980 --> 00:55:04,980 John C Dvorak: Not that it must be that Trump should win. Yeah. 957 00:55:06,540 --> 00:55:10,560 Adam Curry: You know, the question is, can trump play 958 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,760 enough of the cards with the corporations to get in? Are 959 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,500 there enough? Is there enough agenda? 960 00:55:16,620 --> 00:55:18,060 John C Dvorak: He gave that speech in front of 961 00:55:18,060 --> 00:55:20,180 Adam Curry: the Financial Group in New York. That's what I'm 962 00:55:20,180 --> 00:55:23,000 hoping, because otherwise, trying to convince 963 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,000 John C Dvorak: them that, and I think, is his trump card, trump 964 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,560 card, so to speak, which is what he is a trump card, was this 965 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,980 idea of losing reserve currency status for the US dollar, that 966 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,900 would, that would ruin most international corporations. They 967 00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:44,920 need that, and for a lot of different reasons, including the 968 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,860 fact that we can deficit finance and not really worry about it 969 00:55:47,860 --> 00:55:48,940 too much. Yeah, 970 00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:53,020 Adam Curry: which they benefit from? Everybody benefits from 971 00:55:53,020 --> 00:55:57,100 that. I hope so, because, you know, look, they tried to kill 972 00:55:57,100 --> 00:56:02,520 him already, because that's forgot about that is that ever 973 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,140 talked about anymore? Nah, I saw this. I saw Jamie Raskin in the 974 00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:10,560 hall with audio. Was too crappy in the hallways of Congress 975 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,680 saying, Oh, we have a report coming out. It will be shocking 976 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,180 to the American people about the assassination. I'm like, oh, 977 00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:22,220 okay, sure, unless it shows you with your hand on the trigger. 978 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:28,700 And I don't believe it, not for a second, not for a second, by 979 00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:31,520 the way, breaking, breaking, breaking ABC. Whistleblower says 980 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,580 Kamala got questions ahead of time. Did you see that? 981 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,300 John C Dvorak: Yeah. The funny thing about that particular 982 00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:40,600 report is the source, it's bullshit, 983 00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:42,580 Adam Curry: because this morning, breaking, breaking, 984 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,820 ABC, whistleblower has been killed in bizarre car crash, 985 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,480 Unknown: puh Lee's. 986 00:56:52,300 --> 00:56:54,700 Adam Curry: It was nothing. It was nothing. It was completely 987 00:56:54,700 --> 00:56:57,880 nothing. There what you so whistleblower and he signed an 988 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:03,180 affidavit, which was notarized one day before the debate. It's 989 00:57:03,180 --> 00:57:07,140 meaningless. And by the way, you're not a whistleblower. If 990 00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:11,400 you're anonymous, that is not a whistleblower, that's an 991 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:20,720 anonymous source. Yeah, yeah, we've gone crazy. These, this, 992 00:57:20,780 --> 00:57:26,360 social media is not good either. Okay, let's let me lighten it up 993 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,540 for a second. Just lighten it up for one moment. Little, little 994 00:57:29,540 --> 00:57:33,140 light to light, light stuff. This morning, this took place 995 00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:33,680 200 996 00:57:33,980 --> 00:57:36,800 Unknown: we're bracing copy, 200 embrace, 997 00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:41,500 bracing for splashdown. That will be the final call we hear 998 00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:47,800 from Jared until contact with the ocean surface standing by 999 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,380 for a splashdown of the polaristan crew 1000 00:57:50,740 --> 00:57:53,020 Adam Curry: Standing by. Here we go, 1001 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:54,880 Unknown: and there you can 1002 00:58:02,860 --> 00:58:06,420 see, as you can see on your screen and by the cheers behind 1003 00:58:06,420 --> 00:58:09,900 us, the Polaris Dawn crew has successfully splashed down. 1004 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,180 Welcome back to planet earth. Polaris Dawn, 1005 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,240 Adam Curry: well done. Okay, couple things about this. One 1006 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,380 disappointing that we're still landing in the ocean with 1007 00:58:21,380 --> 00:58:25,040 parachutes. What? How about we do with that on landing? You 1008 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,120 know, like on Earth, 1009 00:58:27,980 --> 00:58:30,260 John C Dvorak: disappointed starship thing from Boeing 1010 00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:31,400 landed in the desert 1011 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,960 Adam Curry: looked like a pretty harsh landing to me. Second, 1012 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:41,200 what was the big headline of this SpaceX, Polaris Dawn 1013 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:41,680 mission, 1014 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,860 John C Dvorak: what was the big headline that they walked in 1015 00:58:44,860 --> 00:58:45,760 space? They 1016 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,840 Adam Curry: didn't walk in space. The guy sticks his head 1017 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:54,940 out the hatch, he's got one arm like it's in a cast, and then he 1018 00:58:54,940 --> 00:58:59,320 goes back down. And they call that a spacewalk. Yeah, it was 1019 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:06,900 not a spacewalk. And in fact, I learned quite a bit from France 1020 00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:10,740 24 I think, or maybe it was Deutsche Vella, who brought in a 1021 00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:15,420 NASA Space nerd to talk about it. And it was actually that 1022 00:59:15,420 --> 00:59:17,700 learned a lot about what's happening and what this was 1023 00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:18,240 about. 1024 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,160 Unknown: A new era in private space flight has begun for the 1025 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,680 first time ever to private astronauts. 1026 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,500 John C Dvorak: Yeah, it is 20. No, no, I'm sorry, 1027 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,880 Unknown: no, have completed a space walk which saw them leave 1028 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:36,320 their Dragon capsule protected only by their space suit. Space 1029 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,220 X's new space suit has been years in development. I guess 1030 00:59:40,220 --> 00:59:44,020 this was the catwalk we saw today? Well, let's pull in Keith 1031 00:59:44,020 --> 00:59:46,600 cowring down. He's editor of nasawatch.com Keith, good to see 1032 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,120 you again. So NASA calling this a giant forward. 1033 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,060 John C Dvorak: I want to stop it for a second. Yeah, I saw this 1034 00:59:52,060 --> 00:59:56,740 too. I thought that this was kind of a non story, because it 1035 00:59:56,740 --> 01:00:01,020 was like, there's some point behind it. I never could figure 1036 01:00:01,020 --> 01:00:05,040 out you're gonna have to try to explain why you think this, what 1037 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,580 they're getting at here. Okay, now go back to play it more. 1038 01:00:09,540 --> 01:00:12,300 Adam Curry: Well, what I Okay, well, you know, play continues. 1039 01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:15,600 Unknown: Or I want to say the the commercial space industry is 1040 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:16,080 that what it 1041 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,260 is, yeah, you know. And there's something about this that, in 1042 01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:23,240 some ways, this has been done before, back in the day, when I 1043 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:27,380 was a little kid, this is how the first Soviet and American 1044 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,040 astronauts went out. They just kind of did a little thing. They 1045 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,300 came back in. Then NASA developed and Russia developed 1046 01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:38,000 spacesuits that have backpack. My little thing here they have a 1047 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,500 backpack that has all their life support. But today, and of 1048 01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:43,900 course, these spaces, by the way, NASA has been using them 1049 01:00:43,900 --> 01:00:47,500 for 40 years. They're trying to make new ones, but it's taken 1050 01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:50,320 them decades, and they still haven't done it. Well, SpaceX 1051 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,400 took some of Mr. Isaac his money, and went and developed 1052 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,360 these new suits. And they're kind of like brand new sexy 1053 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,680 things that are 21st century, but at the same time, they have 1054 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,220 a tether, so they don't need the backpack. They get all their 1055 01:01:05,220 --> 01:01:08,520 oxygen from this. So it's something old, something new, 1056 01:01:08,580 --> 01:01:11,400 something tried, something true. It's new and old and new and 1057 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:11,640 old. 1058 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,000 Adam Curry: No, it's new and old and bull crap. What they're 1059 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:21,620 doing here is replaying 40 or 50 years ago, which, again, for me, 1060 01:01:21,620 --> 01:01:25,760 is all questionable, since there's nothing, there's only 1061 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,120 one difference between the spacesuits that are as old as I 1062 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,760 am, and these are the ones that are tethered. It doesn't even 1063 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,480 have the fancy backpack, which means you can actually walk in 1064 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:36,320 space. 1065 01:01:36,380 --> 01:01:38,000 John C Dvorak: And the funny thing is, during this 1066 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,140 presentation, the guy had little action figurines that he was 1067 01:01:41,140 --> 01:01:42,160 using to show off. 1068 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,920 Adam Curry: I know I actually cut that one part out. I'm like, 1069 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,880 Shut up with your action figurines. Do hilarious. You're 1070 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:53,320 making my you're you're weakening my argument. So, so he 1071 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,260 it's not a spacewalk. The guy comes out, not even to his 1072 01:01:56,260 --> 01:01:59,620 waist. He's tethered, so the oxygen is coming through an 1073 01:01:59,620 --> 01:02:06,840 umbilical cord. So they looked cooler. Maybe so was that it No, 1074 01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:10,980 no. It's really about something that is an old trope for Adam. 1075 01:02:10,980 --> 01:02:11,520 This 1076 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,160 Unknown: crew went three times higher than the International 1077 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,700 Space Station. Was that risky? I mean, what are the risks of 1078 01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:19,440 going so far? It's 1079 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,420 risky in that not for the spacecraft. It can do this 1080 01:02:23,420 --> 01:02:27,020 easily, but you go into one region near the Van Allen belts, 1081 01:02:27,020 --> 01:02:30,680 where you get a radiation dose that's somewhat like three times 1082 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,840 larger than you'd get if you were in the space station for 1083 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,080 six months, but you only dwell or stay there for short period 1084 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,680 of time. That said, Any spacewalk is dangerous, and the 1085 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,060 further way you are, the further way you are. But these folks had 1086 01:02:43,060 --> 01:02:46,540 it all in hand and figured out, and they did their thing. And 1087 01:02:46,540 --> 01:02:48,640 maybe next time they'll float around and do something more 1088 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:49,600 spectacular. 1089 01:02:49,660 --> 01:02:52,600 Adam Curry: They're trying to shield the astronauts from the 1090 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,140 Van Allen belts for when we actually try to go back to the 1091 01:02:56,140 --> 01:02:59,080 moon again, which, as you know, I don't believe we've ever been 1092 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:03,600 to. This guy is just confirming my my suspicions. 1093 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,020 John C Dvorak: Oh no, no, if you confirm your suspicions that, 1094 01:03:07,020 --> 01:03:07,620 well, will 1095 01:03:07,620 --> 01:03:09,840 Adam Curry: you no one can determine my suspicions being 1096 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:10,800 confirmed, but me, 1097 01:03:12,060 --> 01:03:15,000 John C Dvorak: by the way, I I've been in one of the old 1098 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,320 fashioned spacesuit you've 1099 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:21,020 Adam Curry: been in one. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Points. 1100 01:03:21,020 --> 01:03:23,600 There you got me on that one. That's 1101 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,180 John C Dvorak: because we were doing a promotion at uh, Tech 1102 01:03:26,180 --> 01:03:29,000 TV, and we had to get into suit, 1103 01:03:29,420 --> 01:03:31,160 Unknown: ah, that, 1104 01:03:32,780 --> 01:03:37,280 John C Dvorak: if you I don't have claustrophobia, but, but I 1105 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,740 would, I would have it. It's unbelievably. It's horrible. 1106 01:03:41,980 --> 01:03:42,220 What 1107 01:03:42,220 --> 01:03:45,820 Adam Curry: have you not done? I mean, a lot. Have you been to 1108 01:03:45,820 --> 01:03:46,660 the 1109 01:03:46,660 --> 01:03:47,680 John C Dvorak: sky dived? 1110 01:03:47,860 --> 01:03:51,220 Adam Curry: Have you have not? No, no. Can I make a 1111 01:03:51,220 --> 01:03:54,580 recommendation? What? Never jump out of a perfectly good 1112 01:03:54,580 --> 01:03:56,740 aircraft? Dumb idea. 1113 01:03:57,100 --> 01:03:59,200 John C Dvorak: That's an old joke. Yes. Okay, very funny. 1114 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,380 Adam Curry: I'm telling you. It's just not a good idea, then 1115 01:04:01,740 --> 01:04:04,560 you're gonna ask me, if I did what? Oh, if you went to the 1116 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,140 Titanic, did you go into submersible to the Titanic? That 1117 01:04:07,140 --> 01:04:08,160 would be something. There's 1118 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,940 John C Dvorak: plenty I didn't, haven't done it. That would be, 1119 01:04:12,060 --> 01:04:14,640 that would be one of the top of the list of things I don't want 1120 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,020 to do. Not gonna do that. 1121 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,960 Adam Curry: But it's just, you know, like, go to the go to the 1122 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,220 moon already? Someone go to the moon with people. Show me. Show 1123 01:04:25,220 --> 01:04:25,700 me. 1124 01:04:26,900 --> 01:04:29,060 John C Dvorak: Yeah, you can. It's just what they're working 1125 01:04:29,060 --> 01:04:29,540 on. No, 1126 01:04:29,660 --> 01:04:32,840 Adam Curry: yeah, for the first time, exactly, for the first 1127 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:37,100 time. So maybe that's what they're doing with those 1128 01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:41,500 astronauts, the ones who went up on the on the Boeing Starliner. 1129 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,260 Maybe they're just checking for radiation. If we keep them up 1130 01:04:44,260 --> 01:04:46,660 there longer than they thought, will they die? Will they get 1131 01:04:46,660 --> 01:04:49,660 fried? How long can they stand with radiation? 1132 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,280 John C Dvorak: There's been people up there for a couple 1133 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,280 years. One of the things that turns out is it almost 1134 01:04:54,820 --> 01:04:59,620 completely ruins your kidneys, really. Yeah, there's a bunch of 1135 01:04:59,620 --> 01:05:02,280 research. Just showing that having kidney problems because 1136 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,520 weightlessness, I guess she's not good for the kidneys. I 1137 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,260 don't know why. Well, kidneys 1138 01:05:07,260 --> 01:05:10,860 Adam Curry: is not the only problem Boeing has. Passing 1139 01:05:10,860 --> 01:05:12,120 drivers leaned into their 1140 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,640 Unknown: horns to show some love for the Boeing. Workers on the 1141 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:20,100 picket line, let's go. Workers say the deal that Boeing offered 1142 01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:23,060 doesn't cut it. They need to fight for their family and stand 1143 01:05:23,060 --> 01:05:25,160 up for the future employees to come. My son is in 1144 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,240 kindergarten right now. My 1145 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,360 daughter's hanging out with me today during the strike. I feel 1146 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,600 like this is a very historic part of my life. 1147 01:05:34,220 --> 01:05:36,560 There's a real sense of unity among these workers as they 1148 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,220 stage this high visibility protest following a contract 1149 01:05:40,220 --> 01:05:44,500 vote that more than 90% of union members shot down. They say they 1150 01:05:44,500 --> 01:05:47,560 deserve a living wage, and we're standing together against 1151 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,320 corporate greed, but most importantly, for a living wage, 1152 01:05:50,620 --> 01:05:53,920 Boeing workers are demonstrating at job sites across the region, 1153 01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,920 waving signs and showing their determination to hold out. Hold 1154 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:57,700 on. What's that? 1155 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,800 John C Dvorak: Are you telling me that the Boeing workers are 1156 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,400 striking for a living wage. What are they paying them? 1157 01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:08,100 Adam Curry: This is not true. I was going to play the whole 1158 01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:11,820 report to tell you that, but they are it's not about the 1159 01:06:11,820 --> 01:06:15,600 living wage. They are sickened from one of our producers. They 1160 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:21,080 are sick and tired of being spied on, being harassed. You 1161 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,560 know, ever since all these problems came about, now the 1162 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,160 crackdown is so harsh that they're being everyone's being 1163 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,580 watched every second of the day. They hate it. It's become an 1164 01:06:31,580 --> 01:06:39,560 unworkable environment, which makes sense, really? Yeah, so if 1165 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,460 you don't want to do the job, just raise the price. It's one 1166 01:06:42,460 --> 01:06:47,320 of my business rules. And then if they give you the price, all 1167 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,780 right, well, it's a crap job, but they're paying me really 1168 01:06:49,780 --> 01:06:53,080 good the region waving signs and showing their determination to 1169 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,120 hold out for a better contract. I 1170 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,160 Unknown: myself I'm not scheduled to be out here till 1171 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,660 next week that I thought I'm gonna come out here and do some 1172 01:07:00,660 --> 01:07:02,700 overtime of for the Union. Well, I'm 1173 01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:06,360 really proud of our membership for voting the way they did. It 1174 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,720 was a big sign to the company that we are going to stick 1175 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:10,740 together on this 1176 01:07:11,940 --> 01:07:14,580 as long as the strike lasts, it will deprive Boeing of much 1177 01:07:14,580 --> 01:07:17,220 needed cash that it gets from delivering new planes to 1178 01:07:17,220 --> 01:07:21,200 airlines. The company's chief financial officer broke it down. 1179 01:07:21,380 --> 01:07:21,740 Any 1180 01:07:21,740 --> 01:07:25,520 impact is going to be dictated by the duration of the work 1181 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:30,080 stoppage. No strike will impact production and deliveries and 1182 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:35,120 operations and will jeopardize our recovery. Late today, we 1183 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,420 Adam Curry: learned that a new round of contract talks 1184 01:07:38,420 --> 01:07:42,160 involving the union the company, as well as a federal mediator 1185 01:07:42,460 --> 01:07:46,300 that is set to begin sometime early next week. I can't help 1186 01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:50,920 thinking that this is all a part of destroying Boeing, destroying 1187 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:55,720 it completely. Maybe the Chinese planes will have to come in. 1188 01:07:56,140 --> 01:07:58,000 John C Dvorak: Therefore, Chinese are building a clone of 1189 01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,560 the 737, flying. 1190 01:07:59,620 --> 01:08:02,220 Adam Curry: There's there's airlines. They're already using 1191 01:08:02,220 --> 01:08:05,280 it, you know, I don't think, but the problem 1192 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:06,840 John C Dvorak: is, if they destroy Boeing, where are they 1193 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,760 going to steal their designs from? 1194 01:08:09,420 --> 01:08:12,420 Adam Curry: Well, the 737, is a fine design we can keep you. I 1195 01:08:12,420 --> 01:08:14,460 John C Dvorak: mean, there's newer designs coming out, and, 1196 01:08:14,460 --> 01:08:14,760 you know, 1197 01:08:14,820 --> 01:08:15,900 Adam Curry: they have them already. 1198 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,240 John C Dvorak: They got those. Well, they have, yeah, but then 1199 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,740 there's going to be stalled, because they don't seem to dream 1200 01:08:21,740 --> 01:08:22,460 it up their own 1201 01:08:22,580 --> 01:08:24,800 Adam Curry: stuff. You know, everyone's switching to Airbus 1202 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:29,480 too. There's a lot of that going on. You know, the only problem 1203 01:08:29,480 --> 01:08:33,560 Airbus has is, uh, slow down because of interiors. The 1204 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,780 interior guys can't keep up with all the different 1205 01:08:35,780 --> 01:08:36,740 configurations. 1206 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,020 John C Dvorak: But it's less SK, use as the always, 1207 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,060 Adam Curry: yeah, well, the full retail 1208 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,640 John C Dvorak: approach, unfortunately, too many skews, 1209 01:08:45,700 --> 01:08:46,060 yeah, 1210 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:50,620 Adam Curry: oh, standardized. It just feels to me like Boeing has 1211 01:08:50,620 --> 01:08:57,220 got to go. They just wrong. They just want to screw Boeing. And 1212 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,680 you know, when does Elon announce his new airplane 1213 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:05,700 company? They're electric. Yeah, 1214 01:09:05,940 --> 01:09:07,800 John C Dvorak: you know, one thing we do, I don't. I have any 1215 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,800 clips, and I didn't come up in the conversation so far. And I 1216 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,320 just want to mention because it was mentioned in that Boeing 1217 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:18,240 clip Trump coming out out of the blue and saying no income tax on 1218 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:19,440 overtime. Yeah, 1219 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,620 Adam Curry: yeah. Where was that during the debate, 1220 01:09:23,899 --> 01:09:25,519 John C Dvorak: that he could have brought it out during the 1221 01:09:25,519 --> 01:09:27,859 debate. He had to have that in his back. But, you know, 1222 01:09:28,939 --> 01:09:31,039 Adam Curry: I don't know if that'll work as well as 1223 01:09:31,039 --> 01:09:35,239 intended, because typically, companies will give you what 1224 01:09:35,239 --> 01:09:38,599 time and a half for overtime, yeah, so wouldn't they just say, 1225 01:09:38,599 --> 01:09:41,379 well, there's no taxes, so there's no time and a half. It's 1226 01:09:41,379 --> 01:09:45,219 just times one for overtime. Or is there some log about 1227 01:09:45,219 --> 01:09:47,139 overtime? Do you have to do time and a half? No, 1228 01:09:47,140 --> 01:09:49,180 John C Dvorak: there are laws. And I know in California we have 1229 01:09:49,180 --> 01:09:51,760 laws that if you work overtime, you have to have time and a half 1230 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,240 at least. How about just no income tax, double time? There's 1231 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,860 double time. Here's here's 1232 01:09:56,860 --> 01:09:59,260 Adam Curry: a tip for President Trump. How about just no income 1233 01:09:59,260 --> 01:10:02,100 tax? I. Just like no income tax, 1234 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:04,620 Unknown: which is printed, I 1235 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,060 Adam Curry: got it all figured out, people, he's got some 1236 01:10:09,060 --> 01:10:13,800 problems, though he's got some problems. This is the latest 1237 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:15,660 talking point about Trump. Earlier in 1238 01:10:15,660 --> 01:10:17,400 Unknown: the day, the former commander chief held a news 1239 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,840 conference at his golf resort in California. It's there. He faced 1240 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,720 questions on a woman who has been traveling with him named 1241 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,960 Laura Loomer, a far right activist and a 911 conspiracy 1242 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,680 theorist who has posted racist language about Harris with some 1243 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,400 of Trump's allies now asking him to distance himself from her. 1244 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,720 Laura is a supporter. I don't control Laura. Laura has to say 1245 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,140 what she wants. He's a she's a free spirit. 1246 01:10:41,620 --> 01:10:43,540 Adam Curry: What is he doing? 1247 01:10:45,220 --> 01:10:48,220 John C Dvorak: Well, first of all, where did this report come 1248 01:10:48,220 --> 01:10:48,700 from? 1249 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:54,700 Adam Curry: That was, I think that's local California. 1250 01:10:56,020 --> 01:10:58,120 John C Dvorak: I have, what was the racist language? 1251 01:10:58,300 --> 01:11:01,320 Adam Curry: Oh, I have that from, from joy Reid. If she if 1252 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,620 we offer all things race, we go to joy Reid on MSNBC, 1253 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,200 Unknown: Donald John Trump. Just look at the people he's 1254 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,560 surrounding himself with, people like Laura Loomer. Now you'd be 1255 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,800 forgiven if you have no idea who that is. She's mostly known for 1256 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,100 Hawking right wing conspiracies and bigotry on the fringiest 1257 01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:21,920 corners of the internet. She's described herself as pro white 1258 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:27,140 nationalism and a proud Islamophobe, has called Islam a 1259 01:11:27,140 --> 01:11:32,360 cancer on humanity. In 2018 she handcuffed herself to Twitter's 1260 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,480 office building after being banned from the social media 1261 01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:38,660 site wearing a yellow star of David and comparing her Twitter 1262 01:11:38,660 --> 01:11:42,280 ban to the Holocaust after the passing of Congresswoman Sheila 1263 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:46,600 Jackson Lee in July, Loomer called her a quote, ghetto b 1264 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,740 word, and suggested she was going to hell. And just the 1265 01:11:50,740 --> 01:11:53,620 other day, she posted that if Kamala Harris wins the election, 1266 01:11:53,980 --> 01:11:57,880 the white house will smell like curry and speeches will be 1267 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:02,880 facilitated by a call center racist much. It was a statement 1268 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:07,020 so beyond the pale that even Marjorie Taylor green called it 1269 01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:07,740 racist, 1270 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,440 Adam Curry: yeah, because it'll smell like curry. 1271 01:12:10,980 --> 01:12:14,940 John C Dvorak: That's how is that racist? It's everything's 1272 01:12:14,940 --> 01:12:17,340 right. Go to an Indian restaurant, it smells like 1273 01:12:17,340 --> 01:12:20,600 curry. Being a racist, yes, you are. When I go there and say, 1274 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,540 Hey, this smells great. It's great. Smells great, terrific. 1275 01:12:23,540 --> 01:12:27,740 By the way, people should note that racist the call center line 1276 01:12:27,740 --> 01:12:29,060 was actually pretty funny. 1277 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,020 Adam Curry: I agree with that, 1278 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,720 John C Dvorak: but what rumors and numerous kind of a 1279 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,240 screwball? There's no doubt about it. I don't think it's any 1280 01:12:35,300 --> 01:12:39,440 question about it. And she goes go to not part of his campaign, 1281 01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:40,900 but she's just hanging around. She's 1282 01:12:40,900 --> 01:12:41,800 Adam Curry: on the plane, 1283 01:12:43,180 --> 01:12:45,400 John C Dvorak: yeah, but people get on the Okay, well, she's on 1284 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,740 the plane. What are they gonna do? Tell her. Did she get how 1285 01:12:47,740 --> 01:12:50,500 did she get permission to get on the plane? Is that been 1286 01:12:50,500 --> 01:12:51,760 explored? Trump? 1287 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,540 Adam Curry: He says, Yeah, let her on the plane. He's defending 1288 01:12:55,540 --> 01:12:58,840 a universe for a fact. No, of course, I don't know it for 100% 1289 01:12:59,500 --> 01:13:05,160 fact, but it's his plane. You know, you can't. Gotta 1290 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,920 John C Dvorak: have a handler that handles the who's who gets 1291 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:12,240 on the plane is, I don't think Trump's going over the the lawn, 1292 01:13:12,300 --> 01:13:13,200 the list of people 1293 01:13:13,260 --> 01:13:14,400 Adam Curry: he defended her, 1294 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,160 John C Dvorak: yeah. Well, he Yeah, of course, that's what he 1295 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:18,420 does. And and 1296 01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:20,900 Adam Curry: if you walk in the supermarket, look at the rags, 1297 01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:23,960 the tabloids. Oh, he's having sex with her. 1298 01:13:24,380 --> 01:13:28,220 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, he's having 1299 01:13:28,220 --> 01:13:32,600 Adam Curry: sex with her. Yeah, there you go. It's not good. He 1300 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,120 should eliminate her from his life immediately. 1301 01:13:35,420 --> 01:13:38,180 John C Dvorak: Well, if she was smart, she'd eliminate herself. 1302 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,560 She should. She know she's doing the campaign. She's hurting 1303 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:41,920 things 1304 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,240 Adam Curry: now she she's a narcissist, yeah? Probably, 1305 01:13:46,300 --> 01:13:47,320 probably, 1306 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:49,960 John C Dvorak: if you're memorized, 1307 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:55,660 Adam Curry: yeah, exactly by definition. Let me see, there 1308 01:13:55,660 --> 01:13:57,340 was some other funny stuff. 1309 01:13:58,660 --> 01:14:00,840 John C Dvorak: Well, I got a funny clip this from tick tock, 1310 01:14:01,020 --> 01:14:03,960 which is a little different topic. It's about gender 1311 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,100 ideology. Well, I 1312 01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:07,440 Adam Curry: wanted to stay with Trump. Okay, you gonna switch 1313 01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:11,400 away? Oh, you gotta I got Trump, yeah, just I wanted this for 1314 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,440 this funny, I can take you and 1315 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,600 John C Dvorak: we're gonna say, I wait. I got two Trump clips. I 1316 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,860 want to get out of the way. All right. Now this one PBS, because 1317 01:14:19,860 --> 01:14:23,480 we still have this background to thinking that Trump is the guy 1318 01:14:23,480 --> 01:14:24,380 they want in 1319 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,840 Adam Curry: Yes, yes. To deal with the war in Germany, the war 1320 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,560 between the German Russ jermo, jerma Russo war. How are we 1321 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:37,340 going to call it Russo Russo German, German Russo war. 1322 01:14:39,140 --> 01:14:42,340 John C Dvorak: I thought these are two clips, one on Trump and 1323 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:50,320 followed up by a clip on Harris from PBS his trmp up. I thought 1324 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,820 this was a gratuitous clip that was just semi complimentary from 1325 01:14:54,820 --> 01:14:56,620 PBS NewsHour. 1326 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,240 Unknown: Ongoing foreign wars played a part in. US 1327 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,360 presidential campaign with former President Donald Trump 1328 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,120 making this pledge to voters during a campaign stop last 1329 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,680 night in Las Vegas, I 1330 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,800 will end the chaos in the Middle East, and I will settle the war 1331 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:16,020 in Ukraine, as I will settle that as President Elect. Would 1332 01:15:16,020 --> 01:15:19,860 anybody like to be in war with Russia if necessary? We would 1333 01:15:19,860 --> 01:15:22,160 when that, you know, but preferably not, 1334 01:15:24,260 --> 01:15:26,240 Adam Curry: no, no, preferably not. 1335 01:15:27,380 --> 01:15:30,140 John C Dvorak: So that was, like unusual, I thought, because it 1336 01:15:30,140 --> 01:15:33,020 wasn't slamming Trump for one thing or another, was kind of 1337 01:15:33,020 --> 01:15:36,500 like, okay, and then they played the little thing on Harris to 1338 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,660 balance it, and you get this vice 1339 01:15:38,660 --> 01:15:42,340 Unknown: president Kamala Harris in her first solo TV interview 1340 01:15:42,340 --> 01:15:45,940 since becoming a Democratic nominee, said she offers a new 1341 01:15:45,940 --> 01:15:48,880 generation of leadership with a different purpose than her 1342 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:49,420 opponent. 1343 01:15:50,140 --> 01:15:55,420 Most Americans want a leader who brings us together as Americans, 1344 01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:59,620 and not someone who professes to be a leader who is trying to 1345 01:15:59,620 --> 01:16:01,440 have us point our fingers at each other. 1346 01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,200 Adam Curry: Yeah, that's her main talking point right now, 1347 01:16:04,380 --> 01:16:07,920 we're so tired of it, which is actually not bad from a 1348 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:12,600 persuasion standpoint. We're so tired of being divisive. We're 1349 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:16,380 so tired of being so there are the divisive lines. Well, hello, 1350 01:16:16,380 --> 01:16:20,840 what you said, being yourself. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I 1351 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,480 Unknown: was not a Taylor Swift Fan. It was just a question of 1352 01:16:23,480 --> 01:16:26,780 time. You'll probably, probably pay a price for it at the in the 1353 01:16:26,780 --> 01:16:27,680 marketplace. What 1354 01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,940 makes you think that the way you think should influence other 1355 01:16:31,940 --> 01:16:35,540 people? You sing for a living? Just deal with that. 1356 01:16:35,660 --> 01:16:37,700 Su Taylor Swift, 1357 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,020 well, look we, we admire Taylor Swift's music, but I don't think 1358 01:16:41,020 --> 01:16:42,760 most Americans, whether they like her music 1359 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,800 Adam Curry: or this is a little, it's a little Melange, a little 1360 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,720 this is obviously coming back to Joy, 1361 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,720 John C Dvorak: really, this, I understand, yeah, but who does 1362 01:16:49,900 --> 01:16:54,220 I'd like to know who likes Taylor Swift's music. Can you 1363 01:16:54,220 --> 01:16:55,720 even hum one of her songs? 1364 01:16:55,780 --> 01:16:58,600 Adam Curry: And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. 1365 01:16:58,660 --> 01:17:00,360 That's the one. That's the only one that 1366 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,540 Unknown: the way you think should influence other people 1367 01:17:03,540 --> 01:17:04,380 use, by the way, 1368 01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:07,320 Adam Curry: I'm sorry, we have someone who can sing every 1369 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,580 single Taylor Swift song, 1370 01:17:11,220 --> 01:17:13,680 John C Dvorak: and that person is Darren O'Neill. 1371 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,980 Unknown: That the way you think should influence other people 1372 01:17:19,980 --> 01:17:23,900 you sing for a living. Just deal with that. Su 1373 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,700 Taylor Swift, well, look, 1374 01:17:25,700 --> 01:17:28,580 we we admire Taylor Swift's music, but I don't think most 1375 01:17:28,580 --> 01:17:31,160 Americans, whether they like our music or fans of hers or not, 1376 01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,100 are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I 1377 01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:36,620 think is fundamentally disconnected from the interests 1378 01:17:36,740 --> 01:17:38,720 and the problems of most America. Look 1379 01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,760 Adam Curry: at the nonsense our media is discussing this is such 1380 01:17:42,940 --> 01:17:44,260 nonsense. Look, 1381 01:17:44,260 --> 01:17:47,200 Unknown: when grocery prices go up by 20% it hurts most 1382 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,600 Americans. It doesn't hurt Taylor Swift, well, that's 1383 01:17:50,980 --> 01:17:53,740 pretty much what you would expect from Donald Trump in the 1384 01:17:53,740 --> 01:17:56,140 mag world following Taylor Swift's endorsement of Vice 1385 01:17:56,140 --> 01:17:59,140 President Kamala Harris after the debate this week, all 1386 01:17:59,140 --> 01:18:02,760 because she had the audacity to share her thoughts with her fans 1387 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,580 about the upcoming election and reminding them to register to 1388 01:18:05,580 --> 01:18:09,000 vote despite the Maga outrage, the Swifties assembled with 1389 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,720 reports of an increase in voter registration. Get this by 400 to 1390 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:17,940 500% since her endorsement, and now Maga world has set its focus 1391 01:18:17,940 --> 01:18:21,920 on its latest target, following swiftgate, WNBA star, Caitlin 1392 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:26,840 Clark, why? You may ask. Well, because she dared to simply like 1393 01:18:26,900 --> 01:18:30,320 Swift's Instagram post. Apparently, that's all it takes 1394 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,860 to set these people off. It seems the mega nut does not fall 1395 01:18:33,860 --> 01:18:35,840 far from the Trump tree. Morning. 1396 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,600 Taylor Swift is not a psyop. Taylor Swift is not a 1397 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:43,300 sign Taylor Swift is not a Swift is not a psyop. Taylor Swift is 1398 01:18:43,300 --> 01:18:43,720 not 1399 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,220 a psyop. Taylor Swift is not a 1400 01:18:56,260 --> 01:18:56,860 Taylor Swift. 1401 01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:58,600 Adam Curry: She's a psyop. 1402 01:18:59,140 --> 01:19:03,420 John C Dvorak: I never heard that that the psyop, psyop has 1403 01:19:03,420 --> 01:19:09,120 good huh? No, I guess it's going around. That was the Sinclair 1404 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:09,840 Broadcasting. 1405 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,400 Adam Curry: Exactly. Taylor Swift is not a psyop. No, 1406 01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:15,540 Unknown: of course not. 1407 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:21,380 Adam Curry: Okay, now you can go into trans Maoism, because we're 1408 01:19:21,380 --> 01:19:21,740 there, 1409 01:19:21,740 --> 01:19:24,560 John C Dvorak: we're there. You that, since you play the the non 1410 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:29,480 story, yes, of Taylor Swift, I have the worst non story ever 1411 01:19:29,540 --> 01:19:34,700 from NPR. And you i This is a one minute clip. I put it on the 1412 01:19:34,700 --> 01:19:38,300 list. It was actually on the last list, and it's like such a 1413 01:19:38,300 --> 01:19:41,380 non story that I'm going to say in advance, this is a waste of 1414 01:19:41,380 --> 01:19:43,660 one minute of your life. Oh, we'll never 1415 01:19:43,660 --> 01:19:44,740 Adam Curry: get it back. People, a 1416 01:19:44,740 --> 01:19:47,740 Unknown: secret chamber 30 feet deep was recently uncovered 1417 01:19:47,740 --> 01:19:51,340 under the National Mall in Washington, DC. Not exactly 1418 01:19:51,340 --> 01:19:54,100 Harry Potter's Chamber of Secrets, but still cause for a 1419 01:19:54,100 --> 01:19:58,180 lot of speculation about the question, what was it for a 1420 01:19:58,180 --> 01:20:01,860 construction crew discovered? At the cistern while renovating a 1421 01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:04,920 part of the Smithsonian known as the castle, they only found this 1422 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,460 hole because of a long term effort to revitalize this part 1423 01:20:08,460 --> 01:20:11,580 of the historic building, the first in half a century, 1424 01:20:11,820 --> 01:20:15,840 built in 1847 the structure's main function was gathering 1425 01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:16,920 rainwater. But 1426 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:22,040 120 years ago, it was sealed off entirely until this construction 1427 01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,720 crew discovered it last month. While 1428 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:27,260 there are some false rumors and Hollywood blockbusters alleging 1429 01:20:27,260 --> 01:20:30,320 that a labyrinth of archives or secret tunnels lie underground, 1430 01:20:30,620 --> 01:20:32,960 there's nothing out of the ordinary about this cistern, 1431 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,180 except maybe that it still exists at all. 1432 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:39,080 Yes, we must disclose zero secret symbols, zero ancient 1433 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,860 archives were found in the rainwater receptacle after it 1434 01:20:41,860 --> 01:20:42,880 was uncovered. Sorry 1435 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,220 to burst your bubble. National Treasure fans, don't 1436 01:20:45,220 --> 01:20:49,660 look over here. Nothing to see you look at that. Yeah, no. 1437 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:54,040 John C Dvorak: Sorry to burst your bubble. This was they dig 1438 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:59,560 it. They found a cistern, and they made a story out of it. 1439 01:20:59,980 --> 01:21:04,860 Adam Curry: Yeah, because they have to cover up the tunnels. We 1440 01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:07,680 all know. We all know there's an underground network of tunnels 1441 01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,920 that connects everything, Denver to Washington, DC with high 1442 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,100 speed trains. Come on this 1443 01:21:14,340 --> 01:21:20,640 John C Dvorak: 70s. In the 70s, there was a fad of hitchhiking 1444 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,200 in this country. Yeah, and every friends of mine that hitchhiker. 1445 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,680 Everyone was hitchhiking all over the place, and so I picked 1446 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:32,480 up a hitchhiker once, and I think it was a it was there's a 1447 01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:35,480 lot of cute girls hitchhiking. This didn't last for long, for 1448 01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:42,340 obvious reasons, and with a with just deadpan, she told me about 1449 01:21:42,340 --> 01:21:47,140 this, about the submarine bases that are under Lake Tahoe. Yeah, 1450 01:21:47,860 --> 01:21:51,280 that did submarines come into Wait. 1451 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,880 Adam Curry: I need to back this story up. So you picked up a 1452 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:59,380 hitchhiker. Yeah, okay. First, what car are you driving? 1453 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,940 John C Dvorak: I was driving a Mustang. 1454 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:07,620 Adam Curry: Oh yeah, JCD, bam, bam, hey baby. Now wish did she 1455 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,760 was she just thumbing it? Or did she have a sign? 1456 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,520 John C Dvorak: Did she have a sign? Let's beside you want to 1457 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,700 hear the basis for the story. You just want to get look for 1458 01:22:17,700 --> 01:22:21,020 lewd, lascivious details that don't exist. 1459 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:26,300 Adam Curry: You had a Mustang with a glass pack muffler. Baby 1460 01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,180 Bump, bump. Where you going? Going My Way? Mm, hmm. I'm just 1461 01:22:29,180 --> 01:22:30,200 trying to visualize it 1462 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,480 John C Dvorak: for everybody. You're a legend. Schiff is what 1463 01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:33,860 you doing. You're a legend. 1464 01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:35,120 Adam Curry: Okay, so 1465 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,620 John C Dvorak: the idea was, and it was just with a dead straight 1466 01:22:39,620 --> 01:22:43,600 face and total seriousness. And I've run into California's 1467 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:47,320 loaded with these people. The submarines come into San 1468 01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:52,360 Francisco Bay, into an underground tunnel that's, I 1469 01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,600 guess, big enough to carry submarines. And the submarines 1470 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,360 go all the way through California. You know, I think 1471 01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:03,720 it's like 200 miles to get to Lake Tahoe, and then they then 1472 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,220 they're based there. 1473 01:23:05,340 --> 01:23:07,860 Adam Curry: So how many tabs did you guys eat together? I'm 1474 01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,660 John C Dvorak: just saying it's just like, who comes up with 1475 01:23:12,660 --> 01:23:16,380 this stuff, and why would they base and what's the point? 1476 01:23:17,220 --> 01:23:20,600 Adam Curry: Does it matter? It's, it's, it's what we do in 1477 01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,960 America, we think about our government like we're in some 1478 01:23:24,140 --> 01:23:29,360 some space age sci fi movie. And I will point out that RFK Jr 1479 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,660 himself said that he was taken to the underground base in the 1480 01:23:32,660 --> 01:23:36,740 60s, and they had a McDonald's, an old city there. You think 1481 01:23:36,740 --> 01:23:38,120 they didn't expand that? 1482 01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:42,100 John C Dvorak: It could have been in Quebec. I mean, if you 1483 01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:46,900 go to Montreal, there's a whole underground city, and there's 1484 01:23:46,900 --> 01:23:50,080 one in Toronto, and there's one in Edmonton. They're huge, and 1485 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:56,800 they have McDonald's down there. So I can see Kennedy being 1486 01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:01,260 stoned on something, and then going down underneath the York 1487 01:24:01,620 --> 01:24:05,040 hotel. I mean, the York hotel is one of the end butt ends of one 1488 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,320 of the tunnels underneath Toronto. He was 1489 01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:11,160 Adam Curry: in DC. They didn't drug him, and he was a kid. It 1490 01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:12,000 was probably 1491 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:13,320 John C Dvorak: down where the subway 1492 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,160 Adam Curry: is, all right, what you got, 1493 01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,660 John C Dvorak: this is the kind of insane person that's out 1494 01:24:26,660 --> 01:24:30,800 there. This is a girl is telling she's giving you dating rules if 1495 01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,400 you're going to date her, Oh, there's rules. Okay, if you're 1496 01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,500 going to date her, you're going to have to live with this 1497 01:24:36,500 --> 01:24:40,040 situation with her, because she's gender fluid, and she 1498 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,760 wants you to know what you're going to have to do, because 1499 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:47,920 it's all up to she calls the shots on this no matter what, 1500 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,680 and so if you're going to date her, you're going to have to 1501 01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,000 follow these rules. Here we go. 1502 01:24:52,060 --> 01:24:54,460 Unknown: Since discovering my gender expression and how fluid 1503 01:24:54,460 --> 01:24:57,340 it is, I've come to a realization that if you want to 1504 01:24:57,340 --> 01:24:59,920 date me, you have to be okay with the fact that you might. 1505 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,720 Wake up to a little boyfriend, a little androgynous partner, or a 1506 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,720 little femme girlfriend. You might have a boyfriend one day 1507 01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,180 and a girlfriend the next day, depending on how I'm feeling in 1508 01:25:09,180 --> 01:25:12,000 my gender expression. And I love that about me. I love that I'm 1509 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,760 not being put in a box anymore. I mean, I think I'm the only one 1510 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,520 that put myself within boxes, but I'm glad I'm taking myself 1511 01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,160 out of the box, and like allowing myself to be more fluid 1512 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,420 with my gender expression. Previously, in the past, I would 1513 01:25:23,420 --> 01:25:25,760 date people that loved being with a mask. Okay? They were 1514 01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,520 like, I only want to be with a mask. I am femme for mask, 100% 1515 01:25:29,180 --> 01:25:31,520 you cannot be anything else. And they loved that about me. They 1516 01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,220 loved that I was androgynous, more masculine. They loved that 1517 01:25:34,220 --> 01:25:37,160 I would wear chest binders, and that half the time, I would be 1518 01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,680 perceived as a boy. I literally dated people who were like, Oh 1519 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,760 my God, you just got called Sir, I love that. What do you mean? 1520 01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,920 You love that? Because I didn't love that. I didn't love that 1521 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,960 I'm non binary. I don't like being called ma'am or sir. Okay, 1522 01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,900 I didn't love that. Why do you love it? And I hated that. Okay? 1523 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:52,660 It was terrible. So if you want to date me, you have to be okay 1524 01:25:52,660 --> 01:25:55,120 with the fact that some days you have a boyfriend, some days you 1525 01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,520 have a girlfriend, and some days you have a little androgynous 1526 01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,860 partner. Okay, that is what I need. That is what I want, 1527 01:25:59,860 --> 01:26:00,720 because that is who I am. 1528 01:26:01,620 --> 01:26:03,840 Adam Curry: And you found this peculiar, because why 1529 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:05,580 John C Dvorak: she's nuts. 1530 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:11,520 Adam Curry: I love those, uh, those posts. They circulate on 1531 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,460 Twitter from time to time, just like I'm looking for a 1532 01:26:14,460 --> 01:26:18,360 boyfriend. Here's the boyfriend I want. Must be between 27 and 1533 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:22,940 33 years old, must be six foot two or taller, must make between 1534 01:26:22,940 --> 01:26:27,200 300,000 $500,000 a year. Must have brown eyes. I mean, it's 1535 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:31,580 like what is wrong that we're living in a fantasy world. These 1536 01:26:31,580 --> 01:26:34,700 children have been these children have been programmed by 1537 01:26:34,700 --> 01:26:39,740 some horrible external force through our schooling system. So 1538 01:26:39,740 --> 01:26:43,060 here's a non binary gender fluid trigger clip. I hurry up. Have 1539 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,460 Unknown: you ever been paid to be hate crimes? Well, I have. So 1540 01:26:45,460 --> 01:26:48,100 let me tell you about it. Okay, so yesterday, I was at work 1541 01:26:48,100 --> 01:26:50,380 serving this family that was sitting there like the three 1542 01:26:50,380 --> 01:26:53,320 wise men, and then all of a sudden, out of the mom's mouth, 1543 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,320 I hear the trigger words, non binary and gender fluid. And 1544 01:26:56,500 --> 01:27:00,100 court is in session, and my ears are turned on. Let's do this. So 1545 01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:03,600 basically, the mom was trying to explain to the dad what it meant 1546 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,440 to be non binary or gender fluid. After a few minutes go 1547 01:27:07,440 --> 01:27:10,620 by, the dad responds in the same way that every guy that looks 1548 01:27:10,620 --> 01:27:13,500 like him would, and says, you know, I understand where they're 1549 01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:16,920 coming from, but if you are biologically a male or female, 1550 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,100 that's what you are. And then I'm standing there 1551 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,480 on the spot. Oh, oh, 1552 01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:25,580 Adam Curry: no, horrible. 1553 01:27:27,500 --> 01:27:31,880 John C Dvorak: I saw this clip. I think we you know, she looked 1554 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,880 and she looks like the type of person that you just don't even 1555 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:35,840 want to be around. 1556 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,440 Adam Curry: Parents. You should just take these phones away from 1557 01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:44,440 kids. It's over. It's done. Everybody a dumb phone back to 1558 01:27:44,440 --> 01:27:49,060 flip phones, and then we have these kinds of organized, I'm 1559 01:27:49,060 --> 01:27:52,480 John C Dvorak: glad you're, you've, you've warmed up. My, my 1560 01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:55,600 desire to get these clips out there in the public domain. 1561 01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:59,440 Yeah, and you've, actually, this is the first one you've done. 1562 01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,460 Adam Curry: Yes, well, as for me, it's a lead in into part of 1563 01:28:02,460 --> 01:28:07,380 the problem when this is being exaggerated and encouraged by 1564 01:28:07,380 --> 01:28:08,580 organizations. 1565 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,820 Unknown: In just a few hours, the first ever gender liberation 1566 01:28:11,820 --> 01:28:16,080 March will take place in DC. The event comes as the US Supreme 1567 01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,620 Court has agreed to take up the case challenging Tennessee's ban 1568 01:28:19,620 --> 01:28:22,820 on gender affirming care. Arguments will be heard in the 1569 01:28:22,820 --> 01:28:26,300 fall, and a decision is expected next summer. The demonstration 1570 01:28:26,300 --> 01:28:29,360 was coordinated by the gender liberation movement, which 1571 01:28:29,420 --> 01:28:33,020 states that they are marching for bodily autonomy, self 1572 01:28:33,020 --> 01:28:37,040 determination, collectivism and the pursuit of fulfillment in 1573 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,980 the face of increasing restrictions on communities on 1574 01:28:39,980 --> 01:28:41,140 the margins. I 1575 01:28:41,140 --> 01:28:43,120 Adam Curry: don't want to sound Boomer ish, but whatever 1576 01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,840 happened just burning your bra back in the 70s, that was cool, 1577 01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:48,160 like burn the bra 1578 01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,760 John C Dvorak: ladies gender liberation movement. 1579 01:28:51,820 --> 01:28:55,120 Adam Curry: Well, what this is about, and all the words are 1580 01:28:55,120 --> 01:29:00,840 tricky. You know, gender was a gender based health care you 1581 01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:05,100 know, it's like, I'm ill. I want to perpetuate this illness, 1582 01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:10,500 please. Would you enable me with the operations and medications? 1583 01:29:11,100 --> 01:29:15,360 And these organizations are the ones that are doing this to 1584 01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,900 young people, not gonna say children, but even young people. 1585 01:29:19,380 --> 01:29:23,720 Before you're 25 You're a moron. You don't know what you're 1586 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:27,500 doing. That's cool. Oh, it's cool. Now sounds like, 1587 01:29:29,660 --> 01:29:32,900 John C Dvorak: what about the transition transitioned six year 1588 01:29:32,900 --> 01:29:34,520 olds? Yeah. Well, that's 1589 01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,860 Adam Curry: that is, of course, child abuse. The parents should 1590 01:29:36,860 --> 01:29:40,360 be arrested here well, but the parents have been told if you 1591 01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:43,960 don't do this to your child, your child will kill itself. 1592 01:29:44,140 --> 01:29:48,340 That's what they've been told. So it is an evil, evil, demonic 1593 01:29:48,340 --> 01:29:52,120 scheme. And here's one of the organizers, Raquel Willis, 1594 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:52,480 joining 1595 01:29:52,480 --> 01:29:55,120 Unknown: us now, is one of the core organizers of the march 1596 01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:58,300 author and activist. Raquel Willis, Raquel, thank you so 1597 01:29:58,300 --> 01:29:59,860 much for joining us. We appreciate it. 1598 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,340 Adam Curry: But now, how do you think Raquel is going to sound? 1599 01:30:03,060 --> 01:30:04,740 John C Dvorak: She's gonna sound like a gay male. 1600 01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:06,900 Unknown: Thanks for having me wet. 1601 01:30:07,500 --> 01:30:10,440 So Raquel, let me ask you. First, how did the idea for this 1602 01:30:10,440 --> 01:30:13,080 March come about, and how long have you been you 1603 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:14,820 Adam Curry: already heard these clips, or is it just an 1604 01:30:14,820 --> 01:30:15,360 educator? 1605 01:30:16,140 --> 01:30:18,780 John C Dvorak: I have not heard these tips, but I've as I've 1606 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,400 been collecting these clips longer than you have. I know 1607 01:30:22,460 --> 01:30:25,580 exactly what's working on your legs. Yes, 1608 01:30:25,580 --> 01:30:27,440 Unknown: it's true. Here we go. Well, we 1609 01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:31,640 like to say that this March is years in the making. We there 1610 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,480 have been so many attacks on various communities on the 1611 01:30:35,480 --> 01:30:39,920 margins, especially LGBTQ, plus folks. But of course, folks who 1612 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,300 need access to abortion and reproductive justice. So in the 1613 01:30:43,300 --> 01:30:46,900 last we started to build a bit of a coalition of different 1614 01:30:46,900 --> 01:30:50,140 leaders and organizations who believe that we all deserve to 1615 01:30:50,140 --> 01:30:53,980 make our own decisions about our bodies. Y'all 1616 01:30:54,040 --> 01:31:00,040 Adam Curry: and with the vocal fry, it's fantastic. Okay, I 1617 01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,220 have more. I have two more of these, just to make it worse. 1618 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,240 Yeah, no, you're loving it. Yes. Did you ever see Victor 1619 01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:10,620 Victoria? By any chance that that was a great play. Julie 1620 01:31:10,620 --> 01:31:11,100 Andrews, 1621 01:31:11,100 --> 01:31:13,920 John C Dvorak: days are over. Being a woman play beyond that. 1622 01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:14,760 Well, that 1623 01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,880 Adam Curry: was a that was a mind bender. It was Julie 1624 01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,560 Andrews playing who as a woman, playing a man, playing a woman. 1625 01:31:21,620 --> 01:31:24,620 I mean, that was tough. That was, that was, that was 1626 01:31:24,980 --> 01:31:26,120 complicated person. 1627 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:26,900 John C Dvorak: Yes, she was. 1628 01:31:26,900 --> 01:31:29,420 Unknown: And if counter protesters come out today, how 1629 01:31:29,420 --> 01:31:32,240 is the organization working to make sure that participants stay 1630 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,040 safe? Stay safe? Well, we 1631 01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:38,540 definitely have a robust and strong safety team that is 1632 01:31:38,540 --> 01:31:42,460 there, guiding us through the streets. We're going to take our 1633 01:31:42,460 --> 01:31:46,660 voices and our bodies past the Capitol. We're going to go past 1634 01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,420 the Supreme Court, as you said, and then we're also going to 1635 01:31:49,420 --> 01:31:52,780 take this right outside of the Heritage Foundation. As many 1636 01:31:52,780 --> 01:31:56,620 folks know the Heritage Foundation are, you know, they 1637 01:31:56,620 --> 01:32:03,000 are a key architect of project 2025, we know that that plan 1638 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,300 that they are putting forth will restrict so many of our rights 1639 01:32:06,420 --> 01:32:10,380 as queer and trans folks, as women, as folks of color, and we 1640 01:32:10,380 --> 01:32:13,260 just want to let it be known that we're not going to have 1641 01:32:13,260 --> 01:32:15,900 that we're going to raise our voices and continue to fight 1642 01:32:15,900 --> 01:32:19,560 Adam Curry: so this was the clear giveaway. And to me, I 1643 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,520 think the whole thing, all of this transgender the 1644 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:27,500 amplification of transgenderism is has been political from the 1645 01:32:27,500 --> 01:32:31,520 from day one, it's not about people or children or or 1646 01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,400 anything. It's just, it's just another thing like like Kara 1647 01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:38,120 Swisher, though they they're just going after trans kids 1648 01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:41,200 because they hate the gays. The Republicans hate the gays, and 1649 01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:45,100 they got gay marriage, and they hate that. It's all political, 1650 01:32:45,580 --> 01:32:49,420 all of it. But then the key question, this is ABC, by the 1651 01:32:49,420 --> 01:32:50,920 way, the key question. And Raquel, 1652 01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:52,480 Unknown: as you know, some of the things that you're 1653 01:32:52,480 --> 01:32:55,900 advocating for have become controversial political issues 1654 01:32:55,900 --> 01:32:58,000 in this really divided country. 1655 01:32:58,060 --> 01:33:00,300 Adam Curry: Oh, really, you don't say that's what she's 1656 01:33:00,300 --> 01:33:01,980 about wit that 1657 01:33:01,980 --> 01:33:04,140 Unknown: we're in right now, several Republican led states 1658 01:33:04,140 --> 01:33:07,680 have taken steps to bar access to gender affirming care for 1659 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:11,400 transgender minors, which for people under 18, that typically 1660 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:15,660 involves using reversible hormones to delay reversible 1661 01:33:15,660 --> 01:33:19,140 Adam Curry: hormones. Oh, boy, really have they invented 1662 01:33:19,140 --> 01:33:22,400 something we didn't hear about. That's a lie, 1663 01:33:22,700 --> 01:33:23,480 John C Dvorak: that's a lie, 1664 01:33:23,480 --> 01:33:24,980 Adam Curry: that's a big fat lie. 1665 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:26,480 John C Dvorak: That's a Disney, Disney, 1666 01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:30,320 Adam Curry: Disney. There you go. By the way, you I would 1667 01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,320 cancel your Disney subscription. They're controlling your kids, 1668 01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:34,160 mind controlling 1669 01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:37,460 Unknown: them minors, which for people under 18, that typically 1670 01:33:37,460 --> 01:33:41,800 involves using reversible hormones to delay puberty. So 1671 01:33:41,980 --> 01:33:44,440 what do you say to people who may have nothing against the 1672 01:33:44,440 --> 01:33:47,560 trans community at all, but just believe that miners are simply 1673 01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,500 too young to be making these life changing decisions? 1674 01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,580 Adam Curry: Oh, you want to put any, any, any prop bets on the 1675 01:33:54,580 --> 01:33:55,060 answer? 1676 01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:59,860 John C Dvorak: Prop bet your lexicon? Yeah, you prop 1677 01:33:59,860 --> 01:34:02,020 Adam Curry: bet finally. Prop bet. You want to bet on this 1678 01:34:02,020 --> 01:34:02,200 one. 1679 01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,200 John C Dvorak: What is the answer. What would be the prop? 1680 01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:08,880 It would it be? She was only a binary situation. She's gonna 1681 01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:14,160 say. She's gonna have some bogus reason that it's good. I can't. 1682 01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,860 I can't. I actually might be surprised. 1683 01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:21,680 Unknown: Well, I would suggest that folks get to know trans 1684 01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:26,240 folks across all ages. You know, our experiences are not new, not 1685 01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:29,120 something that just kind of fell out of the sky yesterday, as 1686 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,960 many folks have thought, we have elders. We have ancestors and 1687 01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:36,080 transces. Who ancestors 1688 01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:37,820 Adam Curry: transcesters. 1689 01:34:37,820 --> 01:34:41,380 John C Dvorak: This is good. Holy moly. What a show title 1690 01:34:41,620 --> 01:34:45,040 Unknown: mind us that queer, trans and non binary folks have 1691 01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,460 always existed, and actually one of the key struggles for a lot 1692 01:34:48,460 --> 01:34:52,180 of our people has actually been having access to the health care 1693 01:34:52,180 --> 01:34:55,120 that we deserve. So we understand folks may have 1694 01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:59,500 questions, but let's actually hear and be in dialog with folks 1695 01:34:59,500 --> 01:35:03,300 who know. Know firsthand what a trans or non binary or gender 1696 01:35:03,300 --> 01:35:06,540 nonconforming experience is. Overwhelmingly, the folks 1697 01:35:06,540 --> 01:35:10,200 pushing this regressive legislation don't know queer and 1698 01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:13,980 trans and nonbinary folks, and they are trying to fearmonger 1699 01:35:13,980 --> 01:35:16,740 and dig into ignorance. So 1700 01:35:16,980 --> 01:35:19,680 Adam Curry: did you have no answer on your bingo card? 1701 01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:23,420 Because that was what she did, no answer. 1702 01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:27,920 John C Dvorak: I did not have no answer. She just beat around the 1703 01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:28,700 bush. These 1704 01:35:28,700 --> 01:35:31,520 Adam Curry: people are dangerous to our children. They're a 1705 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:36,440 danger. They're a danger. Shouldn't be you know, you want 1706 01:35:36,620 --> 01:35:39,140 me to wrap it up with some Neo pronouns for you. 1707 01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:43,000 Unknown: I'm in. So this is a video for neoprono users to 1708 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,340 duets, or, if you're considering, 1709 01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,640 John C Dvorak: wait, stop stuff, she said, This is a video for 1710 01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:53,500 what, what was the phrase she used? So this is a video. Let's 1711 01:35:53,500 --> 01:35:54,100 listen. 1712 01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:58,060 Unknown: So this is a video for neoprono users to duets, Neo 1713 01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:01,060 Adam Curry: I can't understand that actually neoproninians 1714 01:36:01,060 --> 01:36:01,680 John C Dvorak: or something. This 1715 01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,440 Unknown: is a video for neoprono users to duets. Neo 1716 01:36:04,440 --> 01:36:07,440 Adam Curry: pronoun use, I think, is what she's saying. 1717 01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,200 John C Dvorak: We slow down because 1718 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,080 Adam Curry: they're on speed, they're on drugs, they're on 1719 01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:17,760 drugs, they're all on uh, meds, heads. So 1720 01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,140 Unknown: this is a video for neoprono users to duets, or if 1721 01:36:21,140 --> 01:36:24,020 you're considering neopronouns for yourself, maybe even try a 1722 01:36:24,020 --> 01:36:27,740 blind react, however, safety first, before you do either of 1723 01:36:27,740 --> 01:36:31,400 those things, make sure you're in a mental state where if you 1724 01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:36,440 do get misgendered, you will be okay. Are you ready? Let's get 1725 01:36:36,440 --> 01:36:41,380 started. Do you see this person next to me is my friend C's had 1726 01:36:41,380 --> 01:36:44,740 to put up with a lot to get to where per is today. I just want 1727 01:36:44,740 --> 01:36:48,400 to let Glenn know that phone is valid, that for pronouns are 1728 01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:53,560 valid, and that Sarah identity is valid. I wish Boyd all the 1729 01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,380 best and look forward to maybe even seeing some of their lovely 1730 01:36:56,380 --> 01:37:00,720 content someday. Please treat them with respect, and I'm sure 1731 01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:01,860 a will respect you too. 1732 01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,860 A so how did that feel? 1733 01:37:05,340 --> 01:37:08,040 Are there any Neo pronouns that stuck out to you that you might 1734 01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,100 want to use for yourself? Good luck on your pronoun journey. 1735 01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:11,640 Good luck. 1736 01:37:13,140 --> 01:37:15,240 John C Dvorak: Good luck on your pronoun journey. 1737 01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:17,760 Adam Curry: I'm just gonna use that when I just say goodbye to 1738 01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,840 somebody here in the hill country. See you tomorrow on 1739 01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:24,200 your pronoun journey. Yeah, good luck on your pronoun journey. 1740 01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:29,180 You know, I was talking about the ADHD and I had this from the 1741 01:37:29,180 --> 01:37:32,060 last episode. I'll just play a little bit of it. It's the 1742 01:37:32,060 --> 01:37:37,700 oddest thing. But they're now saying that high doses of ADHD 1743 01:37:37,700 --> 01:37:43,240 drugs are linked to a greater risk of psychosis. No kidding, 1744 01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,780 and I don't understand how this made it onto NBC. This morning, 1745 01:37:46,780 --> 01:37:49,240 doctors are issuing a new warning to patients who are 1746 01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:53,380 prescribed stimulant drugs like Adderall and by Vance. This 1747 01:37:53,380 --> 01:37:56,380 comes from a new study published in the American Journal of 1748 01:37:56,380 --> 01:37:59,740 Psychiatry. It found that taking high doses of these drugs, which 1749 01:37:59,740 --> 01:38:03,300 contain amphetamine could put people at a much higher risk of 1750 01:38:03,300 --> 01:38:06,240 developing psychosis or mania. In fact, one 1751 01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:08,760 Unknown: estimate shows that nearly a third of patients are 1752 01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,460 prescribed dosages that may increase their risk of 1753 01:38:11,460 --> 01:38:13,320 developing these psychotic symptoms. 1754 01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:14,820 NBC News, medical fellow doctor, 1755 01:38:14,820 --> 01:38:17,700 Akshay Saleh joins us now to explain what this study found. 1756 01:38:17,700 --> 01:38:19,740 Doctor say, all good to have you with us to walk 1757 01:38:19,740 --> 01:38:21,180 us through drugs 1758 01:38:21,180 --> 01:38:24,680 for tests, walk us through these drugs in this study and just how 1759 01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,920 much of a risk doctors found they could pose to patients? 1760 01:38:27,980 --> 01:38:31,520 Yeah. Guys, good morning. Guys, yeah. So that the link here 1761 01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,640 between psychosis and mania and amphetamine stimulants isn't 1762 01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:36,440 new. That's something that we've known for a while, 1763 01:38:36,440 --> 01:38:41,140 Adam Curry: but what since? When has this been discussed? It is 1764 01:38:41,260 --> 01:38:41,980 discussed, 1765 01:38:41,980 --> 01:38:46,960 John C Dvorak: but we know, you know, you speed freaks is to be 1766 01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:48,160 called, course, as 1767 01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:49,900 Unknown: what is needed, you know, just as 1768 01:38:50,620 --> 01:38:52,240 John C Dvorak: one of them, by the way, yes, he 1769 01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,760 Unknown: was, is it was sort of getting some information about 1770 01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,340 what doses are required to sort of increase your risk here, 1771 01:38:57,340 --> 01:39:00,180 developing those symptoms like psychosis, Romania. And you can 1772 01:39:00,180 --> 01:39:02,700 see here, what we found is that you know, if you take more than 1773 01:39:02,700 --> 01:39:05,280 these doses on the screen, so more than 40 milligrams of 1774 01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:08,040 Adderall, more than 100 milligrams of Vyvanse, or 30 1775 01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:12,960 milligrams there of dexedrine, you have a 5.3 greater 1776 01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:14,940 likelihood of developing psychosis, and that 1777 01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,800 Adam Curry: these are normal prescription levels, 40 1778 01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:24,860 milligrams of Adderall, 100 milligrams of Vyvanse. So 1779 01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:29,660 psychosis, which is that, right? Yes, at normal, it's in the 1780 01:39:29,660 --> 01:39:33,860 story here somewhere. I think the normal is 40 to 60. Is your 1781 01:39:33,860 --> 01:39:38,960 typical prescription? No, the medium dosage of Adderall is 20 1782 01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,980 to 40. That's medium. That's 1783 01:39:41,980 --> 01:39:44,380 John C Dvorak: medium. That means as many as above as below, 1784 01:39:44,440 --> 01:39:44,980 yes, 1785 01:39:46,180 --> 01:39:48,940 Adam Curry: 50 to 100 for vivant. So hundreds at the top 1786 01:39:48,940 --> 01:39:53,140 ends, but it's all medium range. So you Yeah, that 1787 01:39:53,140 --> 01:39:56,020 John C Dvorak: means most people are getting or but half the 1788 01:39:56,020 --> 01:39:58,660 people are getting a psychotic dose. Yeah. 1789 01:39:58,660 --> 01:40:00,480 Adam Curry: And do you think that you could do. Stuff like, I 1790 01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:02,520 don't know, shoot up a school or do something. 1791 01:40:02,940 --> 01:40:04,800 John C Dvorak: That's interesting theory, but I've 1792 01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,720 never heard such an idea. But it really 1793 01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:09,180 Adam Curry: doesn't matter, because pretty soon, schools 1794 01:40:09,180 --> 01:40:13,260 will just have a machine. The machine will be a dispenser. You 1795 01:40:13,260 --> 01:40:16,260 go into the machine, you talk to the machine, the machine will 1796 01:40:16,260 --> 01:40:20,360 say, Yeah, I think you need to up your up your meds. The Doro 1797 01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:24,980 Unknown: app uses AI technology like chatgpt to offer users 1798 01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:26,840 early mental health intervention. 1799 01:40:27,020 --> 01:40:29,840 Adam Curry: Oh yes, there's an app. There's an app for early 1800 01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:33,020 men listen if you're on an app you already need early mental 1801 01:40:33,020 --> 01:40:34,520 health help. 1802 01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,760 Unknown: The user types their symptoms and questions in a chat 1803 01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:41,620 field, and Doro calling from information available to it, 1804 01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,140 tailors a treatment and writes back. So we, for 1805 01:40:44,140 --> 01:40:49,120 example, deliver ti PP, which is a set of like things that you 1806 01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,060 should do when you when you have a panic attack, what's your face 1807 01:40:52,060 --> 01:40:54,700 with cold water or try to do some breathing. 1808 01:40:56,440 --> 01:40:58,780 Adam Curry: I'm having a pan attack. Let me go to the app and 1809 01:40:58,780 --> 01:40:59,800 ask what I should do. 1810 01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:01,740 John C Dvorak: So if you see some of the panic attacks, just 1811 01:41:01,740 --> 01:41:04,560 throw the your glass of cold water right in their face. 1812 01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:05,640 That's right. That'll help. The 1813 01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:08,400 Unknown: app, according to rasoli, is also programmed to 1814 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,100 glean if a person is experiencing serious or 1815 01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:14,640 potentially dangerous symptoms like severe depression or 1816 01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:16,140 suicidal ideation. 1817 01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:18,540 This is the point that if you realize the symptoms are too 1818 01:41:18,540 --> 01:41:20,280 serious, we refer them to the therapist. Oh 1819 01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,460 Adam Curry: yeah, yeah. Get that guy in apps, like doors. 1820 01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:26,060 John C Dvorak: Hold on a second. Have you noticed the use of the 1821 01:41:26,060 --> 01:41:30,560 word ideation when they when they bring up suicide? I don't 1822 01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:36,620 remember as a kid, anyone ever saying suicide ideation? I think 1823 01:41:36,620 --> 01:41:38,060 it's an interesting phrase, 1824 01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:42,040 Adam Curry: which means you're toying with the idea? No, I 1825 01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:45,340 John C Dvorak: think it means you're idealizing the advantages 1826 01:41:45,340 --> 01:41:46,720 of suicide. I think there's 1827 01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,080 Adam Curry: no, no, no, no ideation. This is a, that's a 1828 01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:51,160 real so let's look it up. 1829 01:41:57,220 --> 01:42:04,200 Ideation, ID, ideation, okay, the capacity, oh, here, the 1830 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:10,380 capacity for the act of forming or entertaining ideas. So you're 1831 01:42:10,380 --> 01:42:15,840 ideating which it's like we used to use this at me. VO, yeah, we 1832 01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:17,160 were ideating on that. 1833 01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:20,540 John C Dvorak: Well, it sounds like a Silicon Valley, yes, 1834 01:42:20,540 --> 01:42:24,200 yeah, we were, we were ideating on I've never heard anyone say 1835 01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,620 ideating in my life. Well, you heard it, so now, now I have, I 1836 01:42:27,620 --> 01:42:29,960 can't say this. You've heard it severe depression or 1837 01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:31,700 Unknown: suicidal ideation. This 1838 01:42:31,700 --> 01:42:34,160 is the point that if you realize the symptoms are too serious, we 1839 01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:36,020 refer them to the therapist. Yeah, the therapist 1840 01:42:36,020 --> 01:42:38,540 Adam Curry: will prescribe you drugs. It's so obvious. 1841 01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,980 Unknown: Apps like Doro seek to help fill a gap, especially for 1842 01:42:41,980 --> 01:42:45,640 young adults and teens who tend to report higher rates of mental 1843 01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:46,660 health problems. This 1844 01:42:46,660 --> 01:42:50,020 Adam Curry: is a portal. This is a portal to suck kids into 1845 01:42:50,020 --> 01:42:52,240 getting them on drugs. A 2022 1846 01:42:52,780 --> 01:42:55,720 Unknown: study by Canadian Alliance of student associations 1847 01:42:55,900 --> 01:42:58,900 revealed that one in three students said campus mental 1848 01:42:58,900 --> 01:43:03,420 health resources did not meet their needs. The entry of AI and 1849 01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:08,700 psychiatry is a polarizing issue for experts. Eduardo Bungay, 1850 01:43:08,700 --> 01:43:12,540 professor of psychology at Palo Alto University, who specializes 1851 01:43:12,540 --> 01:43:15,840 in children and adolescents, sees mostly positive outcomes. 1852 01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:20,360 So this is a very good first line of treatment that may not 1853 01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,820 be, huh? Would you say? So 1854 01:43:22,820 --> 01:43:26,780 John C Dvorak: What school did they say? It's Palo Alto unit. 1855 01:43:26,780 --> 01:43:28,100 There is no such school. Let 1856 01:43:28,100 --> 01:43:30,800 Unknown: me listen again. Entry of AI into psychology and 1857 01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:35,480 psychiatry is a polarizing issue for experts. Eduardo Bungay, 1858 01:43:35,540 --> 01:43:38,840 professor of psychology at Palo Alto University. There's 1859 01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:40,660 Adam Curry: no such thing as the Palo Alto. You 1860 01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:43,720 John C Dvorak: I've never heard of Palo Alto, and this is not in 1861 01:43:43,780 --> 01:43:48,040 in the Bay Area, at some other Palo Alto, someplace else, but 1862 01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,140 Palo Alto University. 1863 01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:55,180 Adam Curry: This is new to me. Here it is Palo Alto University. 1864 01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:03,600 Yeah, is, where is it? I'm going to look a boot. Let me see 1865 01:44:04,020 --> 01:44:08,460 private nonprofit, Palo Alto University, a private nonprofit 1866 01:44:08,460 --> 01:44:11,040 university. Look what kind of university is that? Of his 1867 01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:15,000 nonprofit, located in the heart of Northern California, Silicon 1868 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:19,080 Valley. That's where you are. Is dedicated to addressing pressing 1869 01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:21,920 and emerging issues and specializing in behavioral 1870 01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:25,820 health to equitably meet the needs of today's diverse 1871 01:44:25,820 --> 01:44:26,900 communities. 1872 01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:31,820 John C Dvorak: Boy, this is some bogus operation That 1873 01:44:31,820 --> 01:44:33,680 Adam Curry: sure sounds like it doesn't well. I 1874 01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,860 John C Dvorak: mean, it's allegedly bogus, I'll say that, 1875 01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:40,120 but because they may be litigious for all I know, I've 1876 01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:44,800 never heard of them, and I'm in the Bay Area, and I've never 1877 01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,440 heard of them. Well, they bring some guy, and they couldn't 1878 01:44:47,440 --> 01:44:50,200 bring a Stanford guy in, or a Berkeley guy, or a Santa Clara 1879 01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:53,980 guy, or a San Jose State guy or or any mate. You know, we have 1880 01:44:53,980 --> 01:44:56,800 major universities in the area, but they bring in a guy from 1881 01:44:56,800 --> 01:45:00,720 Palo Alto University, this like the singularity. University, 1882 01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:02,160 they're going to bring that guy in next 1883 01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:04,800 Adam Curry: at Pau, you can expect a transformative 1884 01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:09,240 education tailored to your needs. Our programs offer one to 1885 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,180 one, advising, practical experience through internships 1886 01:45:12,180 --> 01:45:15,420 and placements, expert faculty, guidance and supportive 1887 01:45:15,420 --> 01:45:20,160 community. Graduates from Pau find themselves well prepared 1888 01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:23,480 for careers in psychology, counseling, social work and 1889 01:45:23,480 --> 01:45:27,620 behavioral health. This is some kind of outfit, man, 1890 01:45:29,060 --> 01:45:31,580 John C Dvorak: they definitely specialize. Yeah, that's 1891 01:45:31,580 --> 01:45:33,980 Unknown: that's for sure. Eduardo Bungay, professor of 1892 01:45:33,980 --> 01:45:37,340 psychology at Palo Alto University, who specializes in 1893 01:45:37,340 --> 01:45:40,780 children and adolescents, sees mostly positive outcomes. So 1894 01:45:40,780 --> 01:45:44,140 Adam Curry: this is like a very good first line of treatment 1895 01:45:44,440 --> 01:45:48,580 that may not be sufficient, may not be enough, but it's better 1896 01:45:48,580 --> 01:45:51,280 than nothing. This is to 1897 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,140 John C Dvorak: get the guy from a Woody Allen movie. 1898 01:45:56,620 --> 01:46:00,840 Adam Curry: Listen to this. So they specialize in Lesbian, Gay, 1899 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:05,820 Bisexual and Transgender mental health, cognitive behavioral 1900 01:46:05,820 --> 01:46:10,800 approaches to childhood anxiety disorders, pediatric psychology. 1901 01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:18,360 This is, this is a frightening group gender issues. They must 1902 01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:27,140 be pumping out salesmen for. Gender health care could be 1903 01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,200 John C Dvorak: it's definitely specialized, yeah, 1904 01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,140 Adam Curry: all right, well, then let me finalize all this 1905 01:46:33,140 --> 01:46:37,700 nonsense with the latest we have to worry about for your teens, 1906 01:46:37,820 --> 01:46:40,960 Unknown: a new study is revealing unusual changes in 1907 01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,960 teenagers brain development during the pandemic. 1908 01:46:46,300 --> 01:46:49,180 Adam Curry: Yeah, that was a good one. That was a good time 1909 01:46:49,180 --> 01:46:49,660 kids. 1910 01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:51,760 Unknown: It's not that surprising to know that their 1911 01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:54,820 actual brain changes that happened during the pandemic, 1912 01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:59,020 given everything that teens, especially teen girls, faced, 1913 01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,620 Adam Curry: this guy sounds like he's a graduate of the Palo Alto 1914 01:47:01,620 --> 01:47:02,700 University. The 1915 01:47:02,700 --> 01:47:06,240 Unknown: study found covid era lockdowns ended up aging 1916 01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:10,800 teenagers brains faster than the usual rate, more than four years 1917 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,460 faster than usual in girls, compared to just over a year 1918 01:47:14,460 --> 01:47:16,200 faster in boys. The 1919 01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:19,260 authors hypothesized that adolescent girls were affected 1920 01:47:19,260 --> 01:47:23,300 more than boys, because they may be more dependent on that social 1921 01:47:23,300 --> 01:47:26,480 interaction and being able to connect with their friends. 1922 01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:30,920 Back in 2018 researchers began tracking brain changes in 160 1923 01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:36,800 people ages nine to 17, they found lockdowns contributed to 1924 01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:40,600 an increase of anxiety, depression and behavioral 1925 01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:44,860 disorders causing their brains to mature faster. The same type 1926 01:47:44,860 --> 01:47:48,400 of accelerated brain aging has been documented in teens who 1927 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:52,240 suffered severe trauma, stress and neglect. But it's 1928 01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:55,060 important to note that these studies don't exactly tell us 1929 01:47:55,060 --> 01:47:58,540 what the long term effects are, or if the process can be 1930 01:47:58,540 --> 01:48:02,160 reversed or slowed down with the right type of emotional support 1931 01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:02,940 moving forward. 1932 01:48:03,660 --> 01:48:06,180 Adam Curry: Oh, man, we screwed up the world. 1933 01:48:08,220 --> 01:48:10,620 John C Dvorak: This is on purpose. Yeah, 1934 01:48:11,460 --> 01:48:15,660 Adam Curry: lockdowns was a good idea, wasn't it? Guys, two weeks 1935 01:48:15,660 --> 01:48:20,120 to flatten the curve. President Trump, flatten that curve. All 1936 01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:22,880 Unknown: right, so we've got to talk more about this. We want to 1937 01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:27,560 bring in ABC News Medical contributor, Dr Lok Patel, 1938 01:48:27,620 --> 01:48:29,540 Adam Curry: yeah, please. Patel, look. 1939 01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:34,220 Unknown: Dr Patel, it's good to see you sort of explained for us 1940 01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,520 in that story what happened. But how concerned should parents be 1941 01:48:37,820 --> 01:48:40,720 about this new finding parents already being concerned about 1942 01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,900 what happened to the kids during covid, and can the negative 1943 01:48:43,900 --> 01:48:45,700 impact here be reversed in any way? 1944 01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,860 Adam Curry: By the way, I would say to all the producers 1945 01:48:47,860 --> 01:48:51,220 listening right now, don't believe any of this nonsense. 1946 01:48:51,460 --> 01:48:55,300 Don't fall for it. Don't take your kid to the doctor. Don't be 1947 01:48:55,300 --> 01:48:59,560 looking if your kid is feeling older. This is all just medical 1948 01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:04,080 sales. It's a sales job, every single bit of it, which kid on 1949 01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:06,540 some some med. So be fine. Good. 1950 01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,380 Unknown: I think parents should be just more aware about the 1951 01:49:10,380 --> 01:49:13,740 true impact of the stress of the pandemic, stress from all around 1952 01:49:13,740 --> 01:49:17,280 us that that's had on those developing teen brains. What the 1953 01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,600 study really does is it adds some physical evidence to what 1954 01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:23,780 we already know about how sensitive teen brains are during 1955 01:49:23,780 --> 01:49:26,780 those critical years and how fragile they really are. Now the 1956 01:49:26,780 --> 01:49:29,360 headline is alarming, but it's important for people out there 1957 01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:33,140 to understand that our brains go through changes with age, with 1958 01:49:33,140 --> 01:49:36,500 maturity, and so some of these changes are not necessarily bad 1959 01:49:36,500 --> 01:49:39,140 on their own, but they can be accelerated with stress. So I 1960 01:49:39,140 --> 01:49:41,420 don't think parents should really panic from the headline, 1961 01:49:41,420 --> 01:49:44,080 but what they should be doing instead, is really doing what 1962 01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:46,540 they can to pay attention to the emotional well being of their 1963 01:49:46,540 --> 01:49:48,160 teens and their young kids and 1964 01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:52,060 Adam Curry: use the proper pronouns so you don't stress 1965 01:49:52,060 --> 01:49:57,640 them more. Whatever happened to our kids, what do we do to them? 1966 01:49:59,740 --> 01:50:04,080 Do. See any behavior of this in your children? No, no, no, me, 1967 01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,660 neither you know why, because they listen to the no agenda 1968 01:50:06,660 --> 01:50:11,520 show, and actually they don't know. They don't. And with that, 1969 01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:13,920 I'd like to thank you for your courage say in the morning to 1970 01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:16,740 the man who put the C in the atacms, the one and only, Mr. 1971 01:50:16,740 --> 01:50:17,520 John Cena morning 1972 01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:23,900 John C Dvorak: to you. Mr. Adam curry, the morning all shifts 1973 01:50:23,900 --> 01:50:26,000 and see boost in the ground, feeding the air subs in the 1974 01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,100 water, and all the Dames and nights out there. And in 1975 01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:29,240 Adam Curry: the morning to all the trolls. 1976 01:50:34,460 --> 01:50:38,540 I'm waiting for cotton gin to come in. We have 2076 but we are 1977 01:50:38,540 --> 01:50:42,040 late. We're late with the donation segment today. So I 1978 01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:46,780 don't have subs in the tunnel, I don't have a peak count, but 1979 01:50:46,780 --> 01:50:49,120 there's enough trolls. They're all hanging out there in the 1980 01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:49,780 trolls low 1981 01:50:49,780 --> 01:50:51,280 John C Dvorak: number. We're 1982 01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:55,420 Adam Curry: one hour and 50 minutes. We're one hour and 50 1983 01:50:55,420 --> 01:51:00,660 minutes into the show. So I'm sure it was more like 2300 you 1984 01:51:00,660 --> 01:51:04,380 can say that I am saying that because I know maybe building it 1985 01:51:04,380 --> 01:51:08,040 may be higher. Well, let me see, I thought I had a link to that. 1986 01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:11,760 I thought I had a link to the somewhere there was a link to 1987 01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:16,260 the there's a chart. Could see cotton gin. Cotton gins down. 1988 01:51:16,260 --> 01:51:21,860 Where's cotton gin anyway? The trolls can be found at trollroom 1989 01:51:21,860 --> 01:51:22,100 dot, 1990 01:51:22,220 --> 01:51:25,160 John C Dvorak: even he's not listening, it's so 1991 01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:28,100 Adam Curry: bad cotton gin is not even listening. Trollroom.io 1992 01:51:29,060 --> 01:51:31,400 is where you can log in and listen to the live stream. 1993 01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:34,760 There's plenty of stuff going on 24 hours a day. Or use a modern 1994 01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:39,440 podcast app, which you can find@podcastapps.com it'll alert 1995 01:51:39,440 --> 01:51:42,220 you when we go live, which is the, really, the modern way of 1996 01:51:42,220 --> 01:51:45,580 broadcasting, and if you can't catch it live, like cotton gin, 1997 01:51:45,820 --> 01:51:48,580 then that. Oh, wait, here's the cotton here it is. Here, 1998 01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:56,740 control, count, hold on. I got it here. Oh, the peak was 2190 1999 01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:00,660 so it is a bit low. But yeah, 2190 2000 01:52:01,860 --> 01:52:02,640 Unknown: Is it that bad? 2001 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:05,160 John C Dvorak: That's terrible. I 2002 01:52:06,180 --> 01:52:10,620 Adam Curry: don't know about terrible. Also, with these 2003 01:52:10,620 --> 01:52:15,000 modern podcast apps, you get chapters and transcripts and all 2004 01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:19,440 kinds of fun things, and now you can it's also when you're if 2005 01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:22,520 you're listening to us right now, look for the little the 2006 01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:26,000 little dollar sign, or little stack of bills you click on that 2007 01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:29,420 takes you right to no agenda donations.com which is like 2008 01:52:29,420 --> 01:52:31,880 removing a whole bunch of steps. You don't have to think about, 2009 01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,400 where do I go to paypal? What do I do now? Just click on that 2010 01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,940 button. It's easy, and that means that we operate under 2011 01:52:37,940 --> 01:52:41,860 value for value, which is without doubt, the best way to 2012 01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:47,500 operate a podcast there's, there's so many people 2013 01:52:47,500 --> 01:52:51,220 struggling, trying to figure out how to monetize their show and 2014 01:52:51,220 --> 01:52:56,860 grow it. Well, forget about it. Forget about it. I mean, this 2015 01:52:56,860 --> 01:53:01,260 is, this is the the era of media being small. You just get your 2016 01:53:01,260 --> 01:53:05,040 group, you get your people. Those people support you, and if 2017 01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:07,560 you're any good, then you'll continue. If not, you won't. 2018 01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:11,940 It's survival of the fittest out here, narrow casting. Oh, I 2019 01:53:11,940 --> 01:53:16,080 don't like narrow casting. That's what it is. No, that's 2020 01:53:16,260 --> 01:53:17,640 Hello, 1985 2021 01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:21,620 John C Dvorak: I'm not saying it's a new term. No, it's 2022 01:53:21,620 --> 01:53:25,640 Adam Curry: not narrow casting. It's micro services, media. 2023 01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:27,860 Unknown: It's different. 2024 01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:30,620 Adam Curry: You don't like that one either, do you? 2025 01:53:30,620 --> 01:53:32,600 John C Dvorak: Well, no, actually, I'm thinking about it. 2026 01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:35,600 Maybe there's some element in there that is micro services. 2027 01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:36,560 We're all 2028 01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:41,260 Adam Curry: using little micro services and we're media. So the 2029 01:53:41,260 --> 01:53:46,840 idea behind value for value was funny. I sent out a link. There 2030 01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:49,840 were a whole bunch of artists, I think was the Bitcoin 2031 01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,420 Conference. They wanted a panel. They're all talking about value 2032 01:53:52,420 --> 01:53:56,020 for value, and they're talking they're doing it perfectly. I 2033 01:53:56,020 --> 01:53:58,720 mean, to the T they're explaining exactly what it is 2034 01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,860 like. You just put your stuff out there. If people listen to 2035 01:54:01,860 --> 01:54:04,680 it, if they like it and they value it, they send you back 2036 01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:08,640 value, even using time talent and treasure. This was for 2037 01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,700 musical artists, or talking about people helping them with 2038 01:54:11,700 --> 01:54:14,400 their merch, or helping them with their concerts, or booking 2039 01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:19,020 venues, merch, merch, merch, like we have no agenda shop.com 2040 01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,720 and and I was, I was really proud. Like, look at this. 2041 01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:27,440 People are using the term that we've been using for, well, for 2042 01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:32,180 more than 15 years as we come up on our 17th anniversary, and, 2043 01:54:32,180 --> 01:54:36,200 and people like these kids are not even giving you credit. 2044 01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,200 You're missing the point where they 2045 01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:42,940 John C Dvorak: aren't. This is true. But so what? It's okay we 2046 01:54:42,940 --> 01:54:47,320 have, when you get into this, this point of in media, in 2047 01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:50,500 general, everything gets stolen. Yes, 2048 01:54:50,500 --> 01:54:52,960 Adam Curry: the way, it's that works, but it's okay. I want to, 2049 01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:53,440 I want all 2050 01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:55,720 John C Dvorak: the clips we play. We're not necessarily. I 2051 01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:58,180 have to, sometimes even ask where some of these clips come 2052 01:54:58,180 --> 01:54:58,900 from. It's 2053 01:54:58,900 --> 01:55:03,420 Adam Curry: true. Yeah. Yes. So a great example of value for 2054 01:55:03,420 --> 01:55:07,380 value is all the work that our producers do. They send us 2055 01:55:07,380 --> 01:55:10,620 ideas. They send us links. Some of us send us ready to make 2056 01:55:10,620 --> 01:55:15,000 clips, although those usually aren't that usable, except for 2057 01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:18,780 the Jones brothers, of course, Jones brothers, they do a great 2058 01:55:18,780 --> 01:55:19,260 job. 2059 01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:22,940 John C Dvorak: No, it takes skill to to do clips it 2060 01:55:22,940 --> 01:55:27,140 Adam Curry: does and to label them properly. That's 2061 01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,600 John C Dvorak: it, that well, there is a skill I don't have. 2062 01:55:29,660 --> 01:55:31,100 Well, I'm used to your 2063 01:55:31,100 --> 01:55:34,460 Adam Curry: labeling, so it's okay, but keeping it within time 2064 01:55:34,460 --> 01:55:39,860 limits. You know, if you count it up like today, we have in our 2065 01:55:39,860 --> 01:55:47,320 bin 112 clips. Now we won't play them all, but, you know, we put 2066 01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:50,320 on this, this show, this performance, and we weave in and 2067 01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:52,540 out, and then it's like, hey, you've got something, I got 2068 01:55:52,540 --> 01:55:57,220 something. We just make it look easy, but it's a lot of clips. 2069 01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:01,980 And so some of that comes from our producers. What also comes 2070 01:56:01,980 --> 01:56:05,340 from our producers is our continuously changing and 2071 01:56:05,700 --> 01:56:10,680 entertaining album art, which they upload to no agenda Art 2072 01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:13,680 generator.com, another website we didn't build, because if we 2073 01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:17,520 did, we'd be poor. There's just no way you can't there's no way 2074 01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:21,920 you can have producers on payroll. No instead, we credit 2075 01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:25,820 people. We help them. We we've helped them launch their own 2076 01:56:25,820 --> 01:56:29,360 podcast. We do whatever we can. We send more value back to them 2077 01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:34,280 in many ways. And in this case, we have producers who, most of 2078 01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:38,060 them are Dutch masters, such as data. We have an or data, I 2079 01:56:38,060 --> 01:56:42,100 should say data, who hasn't come in in a while, but data's been 2080 01:56:42,100 --> 01:56:42,820 out there. 2081 01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:45,400 John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, he's hard working on and off for 2082 01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:46,360 years. Yes, 2083 01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:49,840 Adam Curry: and oh, by the way, Martin JJ is alive. We did a 2084 01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,660 Well, nice check. Yeah, did. We did? I tell you about that. I 2085 01:56:52,660 --> 01:56:53,560 thought you wanted to know. 2086 01:56:54,460 --> 01:56:56,440 John C Dvorak: I thought I already knew he was alive. No, 2087 01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:59,380 where'd you find out? Well, we did it. Well, I guess I made the 2088 01:56:59,380 --> 01:57:00,660 assumption I wasn't. Like, 2089 01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:03,120 Adam Curry: no, we did. We did a wellness check. He checked in on 2090 01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:07,200 the mastodon. He's alive, but he had a job change so he can no 2091 01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:10,680 longer listen live and do art. So his his life changed. But he 2092 01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:13,200 actually says he likes it, because now he can just listen 2093 01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:14,700 to the show and enjoy it instead of 2094 01:57:14,700 --> 01:57:16,680 John C Dvorak: working, oh, instead of fretting about the 2095 01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:21,560 art. Exactly. So Dave, yes, well, he was still when it when 2096 01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:26,240 he was on a roll, which was years ago. He was winning every 2097 01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:30,740 week. I think he had the longest streak of of accepted art. Oh, 2098 01:57:30,740 --> 01:57:34,160 yeah, any artist, yeah, that was at one time. And in fact, he 2099 01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:37,580 started gloating to the point where says, I'm gonna stop, 2100 01:57:37,580 --> 01:57:40,960 because I'm taking I'm taking up too much space. I'm too good. 2101 01:57:41,140 --> 01:57:42,640 I'm too good. Good. 2102 01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,880 Adam Curry: I gotta step back. Let some other young people do 2103 01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:51,640 some work here. So data brought us this delightfully cute little 2104 01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:58,540 kitty sitting inside a can of cat food, only called feline 2105 01:57:58,540 --> 01:58:02,080 delight. Which do you think that was? It looks like that must be 2106 01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:05,040 AI. I mean, it's so good. The 2107 01:58:05,820 --> 01:58:08,100 John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, it also has a flaw. 2108 01:58:08,820 --> 01:58:09,540 Adam Curry: What is that? 2109 01:58:10,620 --> 01:58:15,120 John C Dvorak: Well, the the flaw is the tab on the on the 2110 01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:16,680 lid is on the wrong side. 2111 01:58:17,820 --> 01:58:21,380 Adam Curry: Ooh, good catch. Yes, yeah, yes, you're right, 2112 01:58:22,820 --> 01:58:24,320 interesting, but 2113 01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,480 John C Dvorak: that's the only, but the rest of it's just just 2114 01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:31,700 such a cute cat head. Yeah, it was sticking out of the can. It 2115 01:58:31,700 --> 01:58:36,620 was a tomato soup can, a big tomato can. It just was too much 2116 01:58:36,980 --> 01:58:39,260 to not choose. There was, 2117 01:58:39,260 --> 01:58:41,920 Adam Curry: there was a lot of interesting pieces that people 2118 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:46,540 came in with. There was a lot of cat and dog stuff being eaten or 2119 01:58:46,540 --> 01:58:52,480 being prepared to eat. Let me see, we had, of course, lots of 2120 01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:55,720 camel and Trump stuff, which, although it does happen, we are 2121 01:58:55,720 --> 01:59:00,640 unlikely to use, a lot of round stuff from comics or bloggers 2122 01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:06,240 prompt work. I kind of liked Taunton Neal's Springfield Paw 2123 01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:10,740 Patrol, but I but the kitty just it was hard to beat that cute 2124 01:59:10,740 --> 01:59:14,880 kitten. I mean, you put a cute kitty in a can, we're kind of 2125 01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:17,820 good to go. I mean, that's, yeah, it's pretty tough one to 2126 01:59:17,820 --> 01:59:21,620 beat. Anything else that you wanted to talk about really? 2127 01:59:21,620 --> 01:59:24,800 John C Dvorak: I mean, I use the camera buttons for the 2128 01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,800 newsletter the childless, catless ladies and a dog in 2129 01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:28,580 every pot 2130 01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:32,660 Adam Curry: for Camelot, yeah, appropriate use for the 2131 01:59:32,660 --> 01:59:35,480 John C Dvorak: news. Springfield was a good one from comic strip 2132 01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:36,680 blogger. That was good. 2133 01:59:40,460 --> 01:59:42,040 Unknown: Yeah, exactly. 2134 01:59:43,900 --> 01:59:46,600 Adam Curry: So, no agenda, Art generator.com, that's where you 2135 01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:49,060 can participate. You could not, first of all, you can just take 2136 01:59:49,060 --> 01:59:51,520 a look at it. You can, if you're listening live, you can scroll. 2137 01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:56,080 You can just refresh that page and see it as it comes in. Or 2138 01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:59,920 you can, or you can participate by uploading your own starting. 2139 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,360 Account there. And as usual, Dr Scott the Bruce Wayne of 2140 02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:07,620 podcasting 2.0 he is always using many of these pieces for 2141 02:00:07,620 --> 02:00:11,700 our chapter art. And if you're using a modern podcast app, will 2142 02:00:11,700 --> 02:00:14,700 be will change topics. Boom, the art will change. You get another 2143 02:00:14,700 --> 02:00:18,600 chuckle. It's beautiful. That's the time and the talent portion. 2144 02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:24,020 Then we have the treasure portion, which is value that you 2145 02:00:24,020 --> 02:00:28,220 send in monetary units back to the show, very much needed, for 2146 02:00:28,220 --> 02:00:33,920 sure. And it's very simple. You just send us whatever the show 2147 02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:37,940 is worth to you. And $5 may be a lot for you every single month, 2148 02:00:37,940 --> 02:00:41,860 that's fine. Then support us that way, and it doesn't matter 2149 02:00:41,860 --> 02:00:45,340 what amount it is, as long as you support the show, we can 2150 02:00:45,340 --> 02:00:50,800 keep going. And we read every donation above $50 not below 50, 2151 02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:53,800 for reasons of anonymity. And of course, the sustaining 2152 02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:57,040 donations, which you can set at no agenda donations.com set your 2153 02:00:57,040 --> 02:01:00,100 own frequency, your own amount. We do like to highlight our 2154 02:01:00,100 --> 02:01:03,480 executive and associate, executive producers. Associate, 2155 02:01:03,480 --> 02:01:07,260 $200 above, we read your note. Executive, $300 above, and we 2156 02:01:07,260 --> 02:01:10,020 read your note. And wouldn't you know it? 2157 02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:11,400 Unknown: Wow, 2158 02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:17,700 Adam Curry: we have a rubbilizer donation coming in from let me 2159 02:01:17,700 --> 02:01:21,860 see, did I? Did I get the rubbilizer? Rubbilizer? Here we 2160 02:01:21,860 --> 02:01:28,400 go. We have, sir, not sure, from monument Colorado, coming in 2161 02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:35,000 with three sought, $3,333.33 rubbilizer. Out. That is a 2162 02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:40,480 rubbilizer donation. He says ITM Sir, not sure, Baron of the tri 2163 02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:43,840 lakes. This donation brings me to Viscount status. After 2164 02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:47,560 getting rid of the noodle people from work, I find my finances to 2165 02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:50,620 be much better, and I felt I should send a bit of treasure 2166 02:01:50,620 --> 02:01:54,340 your way as a thanks for all that you guys do. Please. Let's 2167 02:01:54,340 --> 02:01:57,580 run a business. Yes, and he got rid of the noodle the noodle 2168 02:01:57,580 --> 02:01:59,680 kids, yeah. Good for him, yeah. 2169 02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:00,720 John C Dvorak: The way to go. No, 2170 02:02:00,780 --> 02:02:04,320 Adam Curry: maybe it may be because we we told him that he 2171 02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:09,180 should indirectly, well and directly, please add me 2172 02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:13,320 September 17 and my sister, Dame Marie, on the 14th to the 2173 02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:17,280 birthday list and give her a biscuit for her birthday. See, I 2174 02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:18,720 got a biscuit for her birthday. 2175 02:02:18,780 --> 02:02:21,140 Unknown: They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. 2176 02:02:21,380 --> 02:02:24,020 Adam Curry: I would like thee. I love my truck, and I love what I 2177 02:02:24,020 --> 02:02:26,600 do. Jingle. Keep up the good work, and thank you for your 2178 02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:31,220 courage. That's Mark rush Schall, also known as Sir, not 2179 02:02:31,220 --> 02:02:34,040 sure, soon to be Viscount, and that'll have to come from you, 2180 02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:34,400 John, 2181 02:02:36,020 --> 02:02:37,220 John C Dvorak: what, I'm sorry, what? 2182 02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:39,680 Adam Curry: I love my truck. That's not an actual jingle. I'm 2183 02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:41,740 John C Dvorak: sorry I was your noise maker, the birthday list, 2184 02:02:41,740 --> 02:02:47,560 yeah, I was double checking something. Sorry, but what so I 2185 02:02:47,860 --> 02:02:49,960 love my truck, and I love what I do. 2186 02:02:51,460 --> 02:02:55,960 Unknown: India. Hang out. Mike standby, 3333 2187 02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:02,880 Adam Curry: 33 rubies are out. Awesome, sir, not sure. Thank 2188 02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:06,300 you so much. That is very much appreciated. 2189 02:03:06,660 --> 02:03:11,640 John C Dvorak: Yes, that that was a big deal. Amos in Port, 2190 02:03:11,700 --> 02:03:17,700 Lavaca, Lavaca, Lavaca, Texas, who's also came in with a good 2191 02:03:17,700 --> 02:03:26,360 number, 1776 dot 33 huh? Wow. 76 Oh, yes. Freedom, dearest, 2192 02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:32,780 dearest JCD and pod father. This donation is in honor of Sir and 2193 02:03:32,780 --> 02:03:40,900 Mrs. Heck of Engle Ford shale. Engle Ford shale, shale company, 2194 02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:46,300 in the words of warrior poet Alexander Jones, the solution to 2195 02:03:46,540 --> 02:03:50,200 1984 is 1776 Yes. 2196 02:03:50,980 --> 02:03:54,340 Adam Curry: Warrior poet Alexander Jones, that's good. 2197 02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:59,560 John C Dvorak: Alexander. Seemed appropriate. There's still a far 2198 02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:05,040 cry from what, what? Both you and they deserve my introduction 2199 02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:10,920 to no agenda is one of the is one of innumerable blessings, to 2200 02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:17,520 granted me, to granted me, I'd say granted me through the hex. 2201 02:04:17,580 --> 02:04:21,480 Oh, they, they the hex did it. The hex did it. Hex did it. 2202 02:04:22,740 --> 02:04:26,840 We're words cannot capture my appreciation for all they have 2203 02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:33,440 done, nor you for that matter. So I won't belabor it from the 2204 02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:37,340 kid that was told to never stop asking questions. Thank you, God 2205 02:04:37,340 --> 02:04:40,660 bless signed, Amos. God 2206 02:04:40,660 --> 02:04:44,680 Adam Curry: bless you. Thank you very much. Janet Webb is in 2207 02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:52,360 Gilbert, Arizona, $900 and she has a note which is handwritten. 2208 02:04:52,360 --> 02:04:55,600 I have it here. ITM John Adam. This donation is through the 2209 02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:58,600 best podcasts in universe. Nice handwriting, by the way, along 2210 02:04:58,600 --> 02:05:00,540 with our $100 quite. Interest. 2211 02:05:00,540 --> 02:05:03,720 John C Dvorak: The handwriting is, yes, it's unique. 2212 02:05:06,060 --> 02:05:09,540 Adam Curry: Along with our $100 donation last year will bring me 2213 02:05:09,540 --> 02:05:14,580 to damehood. I would like to be Dame Janet of the TP, of the TP 2214 02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:15,420 Wyoming 2215 02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:18,240 John C Dvorak: jazz. Does it say Jasper? 2216 02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:20,220 Adam Curry: Where does it say Jasper? 2217 02:05:20,580 --> 02:05:23,540 John C Dvorak: Doesn't it Jasper, no filming. Oh, it does 2218 02:05:23,540 --> 02:05:27,200 say, sorry, yeah. The tea, I have a copy here, yes. 2219 02:05:27,200 --> 02:05:29,420 Adam Curry: Well, your copy sucks. I can see it just fine. 2220 02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:32,960 At the round table, I'd like spaghetti and carbonara and a 2221 02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:39,020 bottle of excellent dry red wine chosen by John. Hold on. Let me 2222 02:05:39,020 --> 02:05:45,220 get my list here so I can do this. So we have spaghetti and 2223 02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:52,300 carbonara and a bob Brunello, Brunello, Brunello. What is do 2224 02:05:52,300 --> 02:05:53,800 we have a year for the Brunello? 2225 02:05:58,480 --> 02:05:59,920 John C Dvorak: I'll have to dig up the year. 2226 02:06:00,460 --> 02:06:05,880 Adam Curry: By the way, we got a number of reports from Costco. 2227 02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:10,320 Noticed from Costco. David Mike, Costco 2228 02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:13,320 John C Dvorak: still hasn't got the wine in yet. Yeah. David 2229 02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:13,740 producer, 2230 02:06:13,740 --> 02:06:15,480 Adam Curry: David said, Hey guys, thanks for the help. I 2231 02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:19,560 asked an employee where they were hiding the Costco, yes, the 2232 02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:23,000 four, the crate of four uh Bordeaux. And the guy said 2233 02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:25,700 another guy was in here earlier, looking forward to from some 2234 02:06:25,700 --> 02:06:32,120 podcasters advice. And someone also let me know that I think 2235 02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:36,260 this is completely due to your complaints. Costco has brought 2236 02:06:36,260 --> 02:06:42,760 back the rotisserie boxes for the Oh yes, really, yes, the 2237 02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:44,560 road, their boxes are back. 2238 02:06:44,860 --> 02:06:46,360 John C Dvorak: Make the Brunello a, 2016 2239 02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:52,000 Adam Curry: Okay, 28 2016 Bruno, that was a good year for 2240 02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:52,780 brunellos. 2241 02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:56,800 John C Dvorak: I'm reliably informed. Really, you just been 2242 02:06:56,800 --> 02:06:58,960 reliably informed. Uh, you two 2243 02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:01,560 Adam Curry: bring information and humor into our lives. What 2244 02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:08,820 could be better? Please credit this $900 to The Sims, to the 2245 02:07:08,820 --> 02:07:13,860 Sunday, September 16 show. It was the 15th as that's our 40th 2246 02:07:13,860 --> 02:07:16,620 anniversary. So maybe their anniversary is on the 16th, and 2247 02:07:16,620 --> 02:07:20,160 she was confused. So Happy Anniversary in advance 40 years 2248 02:07:20,160 --> 02:07:22,940 they never had a fight. And Happy belated birthday to Adam. 2249 02:07:22,940 --> 02:07:26,540 Thank you, blessings and may you never find an exit strategy soon 2250 02:07:26,540 --> 02:07:30,260 to be in this episode, Dame Janet of TP Wyoming, thank you, 2251 02:07:30,260 --> 02:07:31,640 Dame Janet, very kind. 2252 02:07:33,620 --> 02:07:37,640 John C Dvorak: Yes, that came in last show and Jade decided to 2253 02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:38,300 archive it. 2254 02:07:38,360 --> 02:07:40,960 Adam Curry: Oh, and she also wants, I love my truck and I 2255 02:07:40,960 --> 02:07:44,260 love what you do. Since she has a Toyota four runner, she's 2256 02:07:44,260 --> 02:07:46,660 changed it to, I love my four and I love what I do, but I 2257 02:07:46,660 --> 02:07:48,040 think you have to hit the jingle 2258 02:07:49,780 --> 02:07:54,820 Unknown: again. Oh, I love my truck and I love what I do, and 2259 02:07:54,820 --> 02:07:58,000 I know you to cook it if you don't use fresh vegetables. 2260 02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:04,080 Adam Curry: Wow, the extended remix, and I love this next one. 2261 02:08:05,580 --> 02:08:08,460 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, this is, uh, supposedly from Jason 2262 02:08:08,460 --> 02:08:11,220 Cali Candace in San Francisco, even though he lives in Austin, 2263 02:08:11,220 --> 02:08:14,640 his most of his life's been spent in Los Angeles. But okay, 2264 02:08:15,060 --> 02:08:18,660 we'll assume it's Jason Cali Candace, even though I doubt it. 2265 02:08:19,080 --> 02:08:23,720 Adam Curry: Dude, he literally, right after the show, sent me a 2266 02:08:23,720 --> 02:08:32,900 Twitter DM, and I'm pulling it up now. Here it is. He said, he 2267 02:08:32,900 --> 02:08:37,640 sent me. He said, I do a great Adam curry. I don't have a lift. 2268 02:08:38,300 --> 02:08:44,140 And he sent me. He sent me a copy of the PayPal receipt for 2269 02:08:44,140 --> 02:08:49,300 333 it's, it's really him, he I told you, he listened. I can't 2270 02:08:49,300 --> 02:08:52,300 believe you're now doubting that it's him. It is him. 2271 02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:57,520 John C Dvorak: Did 333 and no note, no. So he gets, he gets a 2272 02:08:57,520 --> 02:08:59,620 double up karma, doesn't he? He sure does. 2273 02:09:00,340 --> 02:09:03,960 Unknown: You've got karma. 2274 02:09:04,260 --> 02:09:06,720 Adam Curry: I thought it was great. Well, 2275 02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:10,260 John C Dvorak: it is. If it's well, it's never sent us to 2276 02:09:10,860 --> 02:09:13,800 Adam Curry: John. It's him. Would you please just thank 2277 02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:15,360 Jason nicely. Thanks, 2278 02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:18,480 John C Dvorak: Jason. There you go. And I won't you don't have a 2279 02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:22,520 list. The voice that I do love you. Is it more of a Sylvester, 2280 02:09:22,520 --> 02:09:24,620 the cat sort of thing? Well, 2281 02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:33,680 Adam Curry: sorry. And welcome to Texas. Jason, welcome Scott. 2282 02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:34,160 Have 2283 02:09:34,160 --> 02:09:35,960 John C Dvorak: Adam over to the ranch, yeah, 2284 02:09:37,460 --> 02:09:40,720 Adam Curry: did you just do that again? Ranch? Did you just do 2285 02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:41,080 that? 2286 02:09:41,140 --> 02:09:42,340 John C Dvorak: No, I did not. He's 2287 02:09:42,340 --> 02:09:44,740 Adam Curry: gonna have me over to the ranch. I'm gonna record a 2288 02:09:44,740 --> 02:09:47,740 little bit for you. I'm gonna have him record 2289 02:09:47,740 --> 02:09:49,600 John C Dvorak: a bit. Oh, he'll do my voice. He's 2290 02:09:53,860 --> 02:09:54,940 Unknown: very 2291 02:09:56,320 --> 02:09:58,420 John C Dvorak: similar to the voice that Mimi does when she 2292 02:09:58,420 --> 02:09:58,900 does me. 2293 02:09:59,740 --> 02:10:01,620 Adam Curry: Oh. Should hear the one she does about you when 2294 02:10:01,620 --> 02:10:04,980 you're not in the room. I know what it sounds like. Scott Cohen 2295 02:10:04,980 --> 02:10:09,180 is in Volga, South Dakota, and comes in, oh, our first 2296 02:10:09,180 --> 02:10:14,640 Associate Executive Producer, and comes in with $250 and says, 2297 02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:18,240 I'd like some baby making karma, please. Okay, remember name him 2298 02:10:18,240 --> 02:10:24,680 after Adam and John. Oh, karma. 2299 02:10:27,860 --> 02:10:33,500 John C Dvorak: Brian D O, I believe in Fishers Indiana, two 2300 02:10:33,500 --> 02:10:39,920 to two of the duck row of ducks being that this is my fifth row 2301 02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:45,160 of ducks. Donation, please, Knight me, Sir Ryan diazio. 2302 02:10:45,220 --> 02:10:51,760 Diazio diazio diazio, the knight who couldn't give a who couldn't 2303 02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:56,020 give a single duck, but couldn't give a duck, get it and provide 2304 02:10:56,020 --> 02:11:04,140 Chilean sea bass and a Cortese of John's choosing, on, uh, on 2305 02:11:04,140 --> 02:11:05,940 the at the RT, 2306 02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:08,340 Adam Curry: at the brown tube, round tube. Oh, okay, 2307 02:11:08,340 --> 02:11:10,620 John C Dvorak: so a corteze. What's a Cortese? 2308 02:11:10,860 --> 02:11:13,020 Adam Curry: I don't know a bit. You're the wine guy. 2309 02:11:13,140 --> 02:11:17,520 John C Dvorak: God bless no agenda and well, he and goat 2310 02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:20,600 comedy or what. There used to be a winery called Cortese in 2311 02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:23,660 California, but since he's in Indiana, I'm sure he's not. 2312 02:11:23,900 --> 02:11:28,160 Adam Curry: It's an Italian wine. It's a white, white wine 2313 02:11:28,160 --> 02:11:29,420 grape variety. 2314 02:11:31,340 --> 02:11:36,140 John C Dvorak: Oh, a Cortese grape. Yes. Wow. I don't know 2315 02:11:36,140 --> 02:11:39,080 any wine is made with that grape. I just don't. 2316 02:11:39,140 --> 02:11:40,900 Adam Curry: Well, you're you're ill prepared, 2317 02:11:42,460 --> 02:11:45,640 John C Dvorak: yes, well now that I'll look it up and give a 2318 02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:48,280 selection after the next couple of donations, 2319 02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:56,140 Adam Curry: tell us that John, I'm just writing it in here. 2320 02:11:56,140 --> 02:12:03,120 John will give eventually. Okay, nice. All right. Well, way to 2321 02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:03,660 go. That's 2322 02:12:03,660 --> 02:12:04,620 John C Dvorak: the best I can do. 2323 02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:10,320 Adam Curry: Up next, we actually, this is Florida Lawn 2324 02:12:10,320 --> 02:12:14,220 solutions. Who hopes that that you'll do this read, 2325 02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:18,600 John C Dvorak: oh, go look back at that. I see The Cortices 2326 02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:21,920 here. It's some of them are quite expensive. Oh, Florida 2327 02:12:21,920 --> 02:12:25,880 Lawn solutions. They're in Panama City or Panama City 2328 02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:32,360 Beach, Florida to 1171 from Florida Lawn solutions. I hope 2329 02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:35,960 JCD gets to do this. I started listening since the end of 2021, 2330 02:12:36,440 --> 02:12:40,400 going through the archives of 2020, to 2021, on long weekdays 2331 02:12:40,940 --> 02:12:44,860 have been worth my donation. Ah, just getting some of the covid 2332 02:12:44,860 --> 02:12:50,080 material. Yes, thanks for adding that value and your courage. I 2333 02:12:50,080 --> 02:12:54,340 remember that you were running out of deducings. It seems that 2334 02:12:54,340 --> 02:12:58,600 the supply is back in stock. Do you need a new supplier? Oh, no, 2335 02:12:58,600 --> 02:13:00,900 we get it from Florida Lawn solutions. 2336 02:13:02,640 --> 02:13:04,140 Unknown: You've been deduced 2337 02:13:04,740 --> 02:13:07,500 Adam Curry: Florida long solutions for all your deducing 2338 02:13:07,500 --> 02:13:11,280 needs. Eli the coffee guy, is in bensonville, Illinois, and he'd 2339 02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:14,160 like to do a switcheroo and donate toward the knighthood of 2340 02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:17,400 one of our customers. Andrew garland, Oh, now he's hooking up 2341 02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:20,660 his customers. How about that to expedite his journey to the 2342 02:13:20,660 --> 02:13:23,660 roundtable. Thank you to all the no agenda producers and who 2343 02:13:23,660 --> 02:13:27,320 we've talked to, from Canada to Guam, what an awesome group of 2344 02:13:27,320 --> 02:13:29,600 people. We are lucky to be a part of it. For all those in 2345 02:13:29,600 --> 02:13:33,620 Gitmo nation who want delicious, fresh, roasted coffee, visit 2346 02:13:33,620 --> 02:13:38,000 gigawatt Coffee roasters.com use code ITM 20 for 20% off your 2347 02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:42,160 order and stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee guy, 2348 02:13:43,540 --> 02:13:47,620 John C Dvorak: okay, get him a 2021 gavi degavi, 2349 02:13:48,100 --> 02:13:56,320 Adam Curry: okay, hold on, a 2021 gavi degave. Gavi degave, 2350 02:13:56,380 --> 02:13:58,600 how much is that? Is it expensive? Because I got, 2351 02:13:58,600 --> 02:14:01,140 John C Dvorak: I don't have a price. This doesn't matter. We 2352 02:14:01,140 --> 02:14:06,300 pay for it. Okay, good. Got it. I can look up the price. I'm not 2353 02:14:06,360 --> 02:14:09,900 sorry. You're gonna do something is cheap, and some like $80 a 2354 02:14:09,900 --> 02:14:12,780 bottle. It seems a little high for Italian white wine that I've 2355 02:14:12,780 --> 02:14:13,620 never heard of. I'll 2356 02:14:13,620 --> 02:14:16,380 Adam Curry: do this. Next one is from the Indiana meetup in 2357 02:14:16,380 --> 02:14:20,360 Greenwood, Indiana, Sir Mark de Maria, of course, who always 2358 02:14:20,360 --> 02:14:23,780 organize that $200 it's a switcheroo for Annette Miller. 2359 02:14:24,380 --> 02:14:29,480 Aha, because Annette Miller won the raffle for this for this 2360 02:14:29,480 --> 02:14:33,080 meetup. Yeah, congratulations, Annette. Thank you for helping 2361 02:14:33,080 --> 02:14:35,420 me make sense of the world around me in all these years. 2362 02:14:35,420 --> 02:14:39,140 And even more so I thank you for the no agenda family I found in 2363 02:14:39,140 --> 02:14:42,400 Indy. Please give a shout out and some karma to my son, sir 2364 02:14:42,400 --> 02:14:46,000 Ryan Thomas, who hit me in the mouth a very long time ago. 2365 02:14:46,180 --> 02:14:52,420 Peace from Annette Miller, you've got karma? Yeah, we have 2366 02:14:52,420 --> 02:14:53,680 a meet 2367 02:14:53,680 --> 02:14:54,220 John C Dvorak: up report. 2368 02:14:55,120 --> 02:14:57,460 Adam Curry: We got a meet up report from Indy coming up. It's 2369 02:14:57,460 --> 02:14:58,720 always a great meetup. You. 2370 02:15:00,780 --> 02:15:03,120 John C Dvorak: And last on our list here a short list, 2371 02:15:03,120 --> 02:15:07,080 actually, is some big, top heavy Linda lopatkin, our friend in 2372 02:15:07,080 --> 02:15:12,120 Lakewood, Colorado, asks for jobs karma, and she says for a 2373 02:15:12,120 --> 02:15:15,480 gorgeous resume that gets results. And she has gorgeous in 2374 02:15:15,480 --> 02:15:16,740 all caps, you 2375 02:15:16,740 --> 02:15:20,280 Adam Curry: gotta do gorgeous, gorgeous. 2376 02:15:20,760 --> 02:15:23,540 John C Dvorak: Visit imagemakers. Inc.com, for all 2377 02:15:23,540 --> 02:15:28,760 your executive resume and job search needs, that's image 2378 02:15:28,760 --> 02:15:34,460 makers. Inc, i n k with a K, and work with Linda Lou Duchess of 2379 02:15:34,460 --> 02:15:37,220 jobs and writer of resumes, jobs, 2380 02:15:37,340 --> 02:15:41,560 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. 2381 02:15:43,720 --> 02:15:44,620 You've got 2382 02:15:44,740 --> 02:15:45,520 karma. And 2383 02:15:46,480 --> 02:15:48,520 Adam Curry: that wraps up our executive and Associate 2384 02:15:48,520 --> 02:15:52,540 Executive producers for Episode 1695, thank you to all of you, 2385 02:15:52,540 --> 02:15:56,440 especially, as you said, top heavy, wow. It's really been a 2386 02:15:56,440 --> 02:16:01,140 very good, good donation segment for us, and we're looking 2387 02:16:01,140 --> 02:16:04,440 forward to thanking the rest of you came in $50 and above in our 2388 02:16:04,440 --> 02:16:07,080 second segment. Remember, we also have those meetups. We've 2389 02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:10,320 got the end of show mixes. We have your tip of the day and 2390 02:16:10,320 --> 02:16:13,020 some more media deconstruction again. Thank you for supporting 2391 02:16:13,020 --> 02:16:14,400 us. No agenda donations.com. 2392 02:16:15,180 --> 02:16:15,780 Unknown: Put some more 2393 02:16:15,780 --> 02:16:18,300 in the mouth. Spread the word and donate. 2394 02:16:20,040 --> 02:16:22,580 Adam Curry: Thank you again to our executive and Associate 2395 02:16:22,580 --> 02:16:23,960 Executive producers. 2396 02:16:24,140 --> 02:16:28,580 Unknown: Our formula is this, we go out. We hit people in the 2397 02:16:28,580 --> 02:16:28,940 mouth. Shut 2398 02:16:36,620 --> 02:16:47,800 Adam Curry: up. Who you, who you, who you, who 2399 02:16:48,219 --> 02:16:50,379 John C Dvorak: I got another screw, screwball story from 2400 02:16:50,379 --> 02:16:56,979 North Korea or from NHK. Another thing I've never heard of, okay, 2401 02:16:57,879 --> 02:17:01,319 this is the North Korea abductions. Have you heard of 2402 02:17:01,319 --> 02:17:02,639 this? Tell me you've heard of this. I 2403 02:17:02,640 --> 02:17:05,580 Adam Curry: have not heard of the North Korean abductions, but 2404 02:17:05,580 --> 02:17:06,660 I'm ready to listen. 2405 02:17:06,720 --> 02:17:10,440 Unknown: The 88 year old mother of a Japanese woman abducted 2406 02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:14,520 decades ago by North Korea has again called on the government 2407 02:17:14,580 --> 02:17:19,320 to take immediate action. Yokota sake told NHK time is running 2408 02:17:19,320 --> 02:17:23,360 out to recover her daughter. It's been nearly 22 years since 2409 02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:26,720 North Korea admitted to abducting Japanese nationals at 2410 02:17:26,720 --> 02:17:31,580 a summit with Japan, 13 year old Megumi Yokota was abducted in 2411 02:17:31,580 --> 02:17:37,160 1977 while on her way home from school in Niigata city on the 2412 02:17:37,160 --> 02:17:42,160 Sea of Japan Coast. Sakia spoke to NHK about megumi's struggle 2413 02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:43,300 since that day, 2414 02:17:45,280 --> 02:17:50,440 how patient she must be to keep calling for help for 47 years. 2415 02:17:51,040 --> 02:17:54,040 That really makes me feel so frustrated. 2416 02:17:55,600 --> 02:17:59,320 Megumi is just one of 17 citizens the Japanese government 2417 02:17:59,320 --> 02:18:04,620 says were abducted by North Korea in the 1970s and 80s. Five 2418 02:18:04,620 --> 02:18:07,860 have since returned, but the others are still unaccounted 2419 02:18:07,860 --> 02:18:08,040 for. 2420 02:18:10,680 --> 02:18:12,420 John C Dvorak: What are they? What are they? Is the girl on 2421 02:18:12,420 --> 02:18:16,680 her way home from school gets abducted by the North Koreans, 2422 02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:18,720 and then they drag her over there and make her live there 2423 02:18:18,720 --> 02:18:23,420 and do work, I don't know is this is a screwball story? Well, 2424 02:18:23,420 --> 02:18:24,800 Adam Curry: it's a screwball station. 2425 02:18:26,719 --> 02:18:29,719 John C Dvorak: Hello, okay, screwball station. 2426 02:18:30,499 --> 02:18:32,299 Adam Curry: I must have received, I don't You got any, 2427 02:18:32,299 --> 02:18:35,299 but I must have received five different emails from people 2428 02:18:35,299 --> 02:18:38,299 around the United States to complain about with the simp 2429 02:18:38,299 --> 02:18:46,359 complaints, very similar to Aurora and Springfield. And I 2430 02:18:46,359 --> 02:18:49,359 think it's worth the just mentioning, because it's all 2431 02:18:49,419 --> 02:18:54,039 it's all the same. They all have the same complaints, and this 2432 02:18:54,039 --> 02:18:59,079 plays right back into the wage suppression. And it's, I can, I 2433 02:18:59,079 --> 02:19:02,219 think I can pretty well summarize what's going on and 2434 02:19:02,219 --> 02:19:05,999 how it works. And one of our producers is in Utica, New York, 2435 02:19:07,019 --> 02:19:09,719 and he says, In the 90s, the city brought in around 5000 2436 02:19:10,199 --> 02:19:17,519 Bosnian refugees as a result of our Kosovo War. And he says what 2437 02:19:17,519 --> 02:19:21,499 happens is a local immigration non profit pops up, lobbies the 2438 02:19:21,499 --> 02:19:24,439 local government to pass legislation to welcome the 2439 02:19:24,439 --> 02:19:30,019 newcomers, done under the guise of rebuilding a failing city. In 2440 02:19:30,019 --> 02:19:32,599 Utica case, the economy collapsed when Bill Clinton 2441 02:19:32,599 --> 02:19:37,399 closed the local military base and signed NAFTA, this decimated 2442 02:19:37,399 --> 02:19:40,419 the region's manufacturing sector, which is only 10% so I 2443 02:19:40,419 --> 02:19:43,599 think you'd be more destruct destroyed. The city was 2444 02:19:43,599 --> 02:19:46,599 desperate for a rebound. The nonprofits promised an avenue to 2445 02:19:46,599 --> 02:19:50,739 revitalize, to revitalize these communities with the importation 2446 02:19:50,739 --> 02:19:56,379 of cheap labor. And he shows me the refugee, refugee 2447 02:19:56,379 --> 02:19:59,679 resettlement services for Utica refugees. And if you look 2448 02:19:59,679 --> 02:20:03,179 around. Found there's one of these in almost every single 2449 02:20:03,179 --> 02:20:07,979 community where there's an overflow of immigrants. And if 2450 02:20:07,979 --> 02:20:17,759 you look at Springfield, the organization there is called the 2451 02:20:17,759 --> 02:20:23,959 national youth advocate program, they receive $160 million a year 2452 02:20:23,959 --> 02:20:28,999 to settle the immigrants. That would be the Haitians. Marvina 2453 02:20:28,999 --> 02:20:33,919 twig the executive director or president and CEO, her annual 2454 02:20:33,919 --> 02:20:41,439 salary is $1.169 million do you see what's happening here? This 2455 02:20:41,439 --> 02:20:44,499 is we, and we've been on this refugee resettlement thing. 2456 02:20:44,499 --> 02:20:49,239 There's a huge one in Austin, also with million dollar C suite 2457 02:20:51,039 --> 02:20:55,419 pay packages. Many of them are faith based, which is even more 2458 02:20:55,719 --> 02:20:59,019 excruciating to look at, disturbing. Disturbing is the 2459 02:20:59,019 --> 02:21:02,819 right word. So this, again, is the, is the College of 2460 02:21:02,819 --> 02:21:06,599 corporations. You know, it's like, okay, we've got some refu 2461 02:21:06,599 --> 02:21:09,479 we got, we've got a refugee situation in Haiti with, well, 2462 02:21:09,539 --> 02:21:12,059 there's some people over there. Hey, we'll give them temporary 2463 02:21:12,059 --> 02:21:16,199 protective status, and we'll set up this NGO over here. We'll 2464 02:21:16,199 --> 02:21:19,019 give them some money from the National Endowment for 2465 02:21:19,019 --> 02:21:24,499 Democracy, that's and USA. Id give them the money. They go to 2466 02:21:24,499 --> 02:21:28,219 the corporation say, hey, everyone there is drugged out in 2467 02:21:28,219 --> 02:21:32,539 Ohio on opioids. You want some cheap workers? Yeah, great. But 2468 02:21:32,539 --> 02:21:36,979 what happens is they give these, these newcomers, as we like to 2469 02:21:36,979 --> 02:21:40,899 call them. They give them housing. How do they do that a 2470 02:21:40,959 --> 02:21:44,679 apartment building guy, Hey, listen, you got cheap rent over 2471 02:21:44,679 --> 02:21:47,439 there. We'll give you a 30% more. If you kick everybody out, 2472 02:21:47,439 --> 02:21:50,079 we'll put some Haitians in there. Okay, no problem. You're 2473 02:21:50,079 --> 02:21:55,059 out. Pay a Dole or Hey, machine manufacturing, car plant 2474 02:21:55,059 --> 02:21:58,779 manufacturer, we got some cheap labor. Okay, good. But then they 2475 02:21:58,779 --> 02:22:03,959 also, they give the the newcomers housing money, they 2476 02:22:03,959 --> 02:22:08,339 give them debit cards with with money for groceries, and they 2477 02:22:08,339 --> 02:22:12,899 get their $19 an hour. So there's no way the local 2478 02:22:12,899 --> 02:22:17,159 citizenry can compete. And then what? Just to poke everyone's 2479 02:22:17,159 --> 02:22:21,439 eyes out all these the Haitians in in Springfield, they're 2480 02:22:21,439 --> 02:22:27,919 driving BMWs. They're like 345, year old beamers and Mercedes 2481 02:22:29,119 --> 02:22:33,919 and so they don't care about the citizens. They do not care the 2482 02:22:33,919 --> 02:22:38,359 whole system is set up, and it's happened all across America, all 2483 02:22:38,359 --> 02:22:43,239 across it. I email after email with the same story. I don't 2484 02:22:43,239 --> 02:22:47,439 know. I don't know how you stop it, but this, this is the 2485 02:22:47,439 --> 02:22:52,839 gambit. And Germany just signed a deal to welcome Kenyans, 2486 02:22:54,339 --> 02:22:57,999 250,000 Kenyans, because the Germans apparently are no good 2487 02:22:57,999 --> 02:22:58,599 anymore. 2488 02:23:01,120 --> 02:23:01,980 Unknown: Did you hear this? 2489 02:23:02,820 --> 02:23:04,380 John C Dvorak: No, but I'm not 2490 02:23:04,380 --> 02:23:06,780 Adam Curry: happy about it. Berlin has agreed to allow 2491 02:23:06,780 --> 02:23:11,160 skilled and semi skilled Kenyan workers into Germany in a 2492 02:23:11,160 --> 02:23:16,080 controlled and targeted labor migration deal. This is your new 2493 02:23:16,080 --> 02:23:19,440 world order. This is the whole plan, 2494 02:23:19,980 --> 02:23:22,460 John C Dvorak: yeah, and it's cheap labor, is it? The base of 2495 02:23:22,460 --> 02:23:26,600 it? Cheap labor? Cheap? No, not for the taxpayer we're paying. 2496 02:23:26,960 --> 02:23:30,620 It's not cheap. We're pay. We're paying the taxpayers are paying 2497 02:23:30,620 --> 02:23:35,360 for this. Yes, so it's being subsidized by the US taxpayer 2498 02:23:35,360 --> 02:23:37,940 who's being kicked out of the apartments that you have, 2499 02:23:37,940 --> 02:23:40,720 aforementioned apartments you talked about. Yeah, this is 2500 02:23:40,720 --> 02:23:44,740 ridiculous. This is worse than Oh, you know, this Indian guy 2501 02:23:44,740 --> 02:23:48,280 came in. I had to teach him my job so I could get fired. This 2502 02:23:48,280 --> 02:23:50,500 is worse than that. It's much worse than that. 2503 02:23:51,700 --> 02:23:54,760 Adam Curry: Oh, man, that's 2504 02:23:55,060 --> 02:23:57,640 John C Dvorak: what's really to me. Is somewhat ironic, because 2505 02:23:57,640 --> 02:24:00,960 I was thinking about this is that when California, we had a 2506 02:24:00,960 --> 02:24:04,560 system for farm labor, which has still been an issue. It's always 2507 02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:07,680 an issue in California, and you can't get enough people to work 2508 02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:11,220 in the farmlands, and we and so they, they had a program called 2509 02:24:11,220 --> 02:24:17,280 the Bracero program, because right now, Mexican nationals 2510 02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:20,660 will sneak over and they'll do farm work and send the money 2511 02:24:20,660 --> 02:24:26,600 back to Mexico, to Mexico, sorry. And the Bracero program 2512 02:24:26,600 --> 02:24:30,620 would brought the Mexicans up in busses to do farm labor. They 2513 02:24:30,620 --> 02:24:33,320 got paid the same amount, and then they shipped them back on 2514 02:24:33,320 --> 02:24:36,080 the same busses when they were done and when the harvest was 2515 02:24:36,080 --> 02:24:39,980 over, and they just took the money with them, yeah, which is 2516 02:24:39,980 --> 02:24:43,780 okay. Well, that was that was not good enough. So he had to 2517 02:24:43,780 --> 02:24:48,160 end that program because it was cruel or something. But now 2518 02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:49,720 we're doing this instead. 2519 02:24:51,040 --> 02:24:55,000 Adam Curry: Yep, and, and to make matters worse, have you 2520 02:24:55,000 --> 02:25:00,120 seen what they're doing with inmates in Alabama? No, it's. So 2521 02:25:00,120 --> 02:25:03,420 what is Kamala Harris is, by the way, nobody, 2522 02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:06,420 John C Dvorak: no, no wonder nobody's in the troll room. 2523 02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:07,620 We're depressing now. 2524 02:25:08,460 --> 02:25:11,040 Adam Curry: No, I think we're confirming their fears, and 2525 02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:14,280 we're we're helping them understand what, what's going on 2526 02:25:14,280 --> 02:25:17,880 in their world. This is not meant to be depressing. After 2527 02:25:17,880 --> 02:25:20,600 the show, you turn it off and go smoke a dupe. Everything you're 2528 02:25:20,600 --> 02:25:22,220 good to go. Everybody 2529 02:25:22,220 --> 02:25:24,140 John C Dvorak: was having the Alabama prisoners. 2530 02:25:24,200 --> 02:25:28,760 Adam Curry: So we have, for many, many generations in 2531 02:25:28,760 --> 02:25:31,760 America, we've always enjoyed using our inmates for cheap 2532 02:25:31,760 --> 02:25:36,860 labor. You know, making Ikea furniture license plates is kind 2533 02:25:36,860 --> 02:25:39,920 of the old joke, but they still actually make license plates in 2534 02:25:39,920 --> 02:25:44,260 jail and and the I think most of the inmates make between nine 2535 02:25:44,260 --> 02:25:49,420 and 13 cents an hour, depending on on what job you're in. So 2536 02:25:49,480 --> 02:25:52,960 Alabama has a new twist on this. 2537 02:25:53,620 --> 02:25:55,900 Unknown: Well, a lot of people are calling it modern slavery. 2538 02:25:55,900 --> 02:25:56,740 Does that feel right? 2539 02:25:56,740 --> 02:26:00,840 Just about to say that's slavery, that's slavery. You 2540 02:26:00,840 --> 02:26:04,440 took away the Wilkes, but you put the paperwork, took away the 2541 02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:08,580 Masters, and you gave put them in uniform. Same difference, 2542 02:26:08,580 --> 02:26:09,660 Same difference. 2543 02:26:09,900 --> 02:26:15,540 It kind of appears that there is a coordinated system in order to 2544 02:26:15,540 --> 02:26:19,560 protect the labor that's created by the prison system. 2545 02:26:20,280 --> 02:26:23,660 Walk into a McDonald's in Alabama and the worker flipping 2546 02:26:23,660 --> 02:26:27,140 your McDouble could be an incarcerated person. It's 2547 02:26:27,140 --> 02:26:28,520 a sad situation 2548 02:26:28,580 --> 02:26:31,640 a way, they getting rich off of the 2549 02:26:31,640 --> 02:26:34,160 Alabama Department of Corrections farms out 2550 02:26:34,160 --> 02:26:37,580 incarcerated people to work at hundreds of private companies 2551 02:26:37,580 --> 02:26:41,320 and government agencies across the state. McDonald's, 2552 02:26:41,380 --> 02:26:45,520 Burger King, Golden Corral, Wendy's. They got a Wendy's 2553 02:26:45,520 --> 02:26:51,040 contract right now. State troopers office, they'll send 2554 02:26:51,040 --> 02:26:54,220 everybody everywhere. They'll send you everywhere. Yes, the 2555 02:26:54,220 --> 02:26:56,020 parole office, 2556 02:26:56,260 --> 02:27:00,180 and even though Adoc trusts these incarcerated people to 2557 02:27:00,180 --> 02:27:04,020 leave prison every day and work alongside the general public. 2558 02:27:04,380 --> 02:27:08,220 Many of them are still denied the chance at real freedom. 2559 02:27:09,420 --> 02:27:13,140 Adam Curry: So you're incarcerated, you're in jail, 2560 02:27:13,140 --> 02:27:15,540 but we're going to let you out to go flip burgers at 2561 02:27:15,540 --> 02:27:16,500 McDonald's, 2562 02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:20,180 John C Dvorak: probably pennies on the dollar in terms of pay. 2563 02:27:20,180 --> 02:27:22,580 Adam Curry: Yes. How does this make sense? 2564 02:27:23,660 --> 02:27:25,760 John C Dvorak: And we're always bitching and moaning about the 2565 02:27:25,820 --> 02:27:26,900 Chinese, 2566 02:27:27,380 --> 02:27:31,820 Adam Curry: right? Exactly. We're worse than the Chinese. 2567 02:27:31,820 --> 02:27:35,660 We've commercialized it. That's slavery. That is real slavery, 2568 02:27:35,660 --> 02:27:39,260 right there. If you if you're safe enough to go out into 2569 02:27:39,260 --> 02:27:44,020 society, which is the whole part of incarceration, then you 2570 02:27:44,020 --> 02:27:45,580 shouldn't be incarcerated. 2571 02:27:48,460 --> 02:27:53,020 John C Dvorak: How's she gonna get the cheap labor? We win. 2572 02:27:53,020 --> 02:27:53,920 Win. We need. 2573 02:27:55,720 --> 02:27:58,600 Adam Curry: We need a new sheriff in town. Oh, I know. 2574 02:27:58,600 --> 02:28:03,240 Let's bring in Sheriff Harris. She'll fix it all for us, my 2575 02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:03,960 goodness, 2576 02:28:04,980 --> 02:28:07,380 John C Dvorak: but she actually kept there was a, I mean, the 2577 02:28:07,380 --> 02:28:10,560 Tulsi Gabbard slam against her, which is probably, we have a 2578 02:28:10,560 --> 02:28:14,820 clip of it. She mentioned that she wouldn't some guys were 2579 02:28:14,820 --> 02:28:18,240 supposed to get out of jail, and she kept them in there to get 2580 02:28:18,240 --> 02:28:21,980 them in so they could do slave labor with them? Yeah, yeah. 2581 02:28:22,580 --> 02:28:25,100 Once a slave owner, always a slave owner. 2582 02:28:25,280 --> 02:28:28,040 Adam Curry: We're just reporting it. People don't hate the 2583 02:28:28,040 --> 02:28:29,240 players hate the game. 2584 02:28:34,640 --> 02:28:40,040 John C Dvorak: So we can talk a little bit about about 2585 02:28:42,440 --> 02:28:46,540 Adam Curry: claim it. Week. Oh, how did I miss climate week? 2586 02:28:46,840 --> 02:28:48,520 John C Dvorak: I don't know. I was wondering myself. 2587 02:28:48,580 --> 02:28:52,000 Adam Curry: Oh, man, this is an important week, another scam of 2588 02:28:52,000 --> 02:28:53,320 epic proportions. 2589 02:28:54,640 --> 02:28:57,580 John C Dvorak: It's a beauty. I have two. These are both 2590 02:28:57,580 --> 02:29:03,600 promotional. They were on NPR. Okay, start with the new show 2591 02:29:03,600 --> 02:29:06,540 called reveal. This is the this is a teaser for the show. I 2592 02:29:06,540 --> 02:29:10,860 don't have the show because it's coming up. Is the teaser that 2593 02:29:12,060 --> 02:29:14,220 Adam Curry: climate? Climate teaser? Okay, 2594 02:29:14,280 --> 02:29:18,120 Unknown: we want to be the next Vanguard, the next Blackrock for 2595 02:29:18,120 --> 02:29:21,680 the climate conscious consumer, because we don't believe that 2596 02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:26,660 those companies will do what we need them to do to get us out of 2597 02:29:26,660 --> 02:29:29,420 this climate crisis that we're currently in. 2598 02:29:30,020 --> 02:29:31,220 That's next on 2599 02:29:31,220 --> 02:29:33,980 Adam Curry: reveal. Well, I like that the climate conscious 2600 02:29:33,980 --> 02:29:37,640 consumer. It's the Triple C nice, 2601 02:29:37,640 --> 02:29:40,540 John C Dvorak: a person that only exists in few areas of the 2602 02:29:40,540 --> 02:29:43,420 world. Yes, California, we have client, the climate week 2603 02:29:43,420 --> 02:29:45,100 promotion from NPR. There are 2604 02:29:45,100 --> 02:29:47,620 Unknown: a lot of ways for humans to both slow the pace of 2605 02:29:47,620 --> 02:29:51,700 climate change and adapt to our new reality. NPR is spending a 2606 02:29:51,700 --> 02:29:53,980 week exploring areas where we can improve 2607 02:29:54,100 --> 02:29:57,520 addressing food waste turns out to be one of the biggest climate 2608 02:29:57,520 --> 02:29:59,320 solutions. Of them all 2609 02:29:59,500 --> 02:30:03,120 join us. For a look at the future of food with NPRs, annual 2610 02:30:03,120 --> 02:30:06,180 climate solutions week, explore with us at npr.org/climate 2611 02:30:07,860 --> 02:30:11,520 Adam Curry: week, oh, now I understand why Tedros came out 2612 02:30:12,060 --> 02:30:16,380 World Health Organization, yeah, yeah, yeah. He made a statement 2613 02:30:16,500 --> 02:30:17,700 for climate week. 2614 02:30:17,880 --> 02:30:21,260 Unknown: Our food systems are harming the health of people and 2615 02:30:21,260 --> 02:30:27,140 planet. Food Systems contribute to over 30% of greenhouse gas 2616 02:30:27,140 --> 02:30:32,360 emissions and account for almost 1/3 of the global burden of 2617 02:30:32,360 --> 02:30:37,340 business transforming food systems is therefore essential 2618 02:30:37,880 --> 02:30:43,000 by shifting towards healthier, diversified and more plant based 2619 02:30:43,000 --> 02:30:48,580 diets, plants, if food systems delivered healthy diets for all, 2620 02:30:49,360 --> 02:30:55,000 we could save 8 million lives per year. Who is committed to 2621 02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:56,140 supporting countries? 2622 02:30:56,200 --> 02:30:57,340 Adam Curry: I don't know 2623 02:30:58,480 --> 02:31:01,920 John C Dvorak: what. How are we saving lives or creating 2624 02:31:01,920 --> 02:31:03,240 Adam Curry: them. If 2625 02:31:03,240 --> 02:31:07,680 Unknown: food systems delivered healthy diets for all, we could 2626 02:31:07,680 --> 02:31:13,260 save 8 million lives per year. Who is committed to supporting 2627 02:31:13,260 --> 02:31:16,920 countries to develop and implement policies to improve 2628 02:31:16,920 --> 02:31:21,860 diets and fight climate change? I'm therefore very pleased that 2629 02:31:21,860 --> 02:31:27,740 over 130 countries have signed the cop 28 UA Declaration on 2630 02:31:27,740 --> 02:31:33,440 climate and health, together, we can protect and promote the 2631 02:31:33,440 --> 02:31:36,140 health of both people and planet. 2632 02:31:36,260 --> 02:31:37,880 Adam Curry: Well, let's start with the Haitians. They're 2633 02:31:37,880 --> 02:31:41,740 eating the dogs. All right, stop eating dogs. Stop eating the 2634 02:31:41,740 --> 02:31:46,300 dogs. Oh, boy, there. There's 2635 02:31:46,300 --> 02:31:48,520 John C Dvorak: a I don't have the clip anymore because I just 2636 02:31:48,520 --> 02:31:51,100 never got to use it, which is the guy who comes out says 2637 02:31:51,520 --> 02:31:55,000 farming is responsible for all climate change. We must stop all 2638 02:31:55,000 --> 02:31:58,480 farming. Oh, yet they have so they have a mixed message going 2639 02:31:58,480 --> 02:32:00,780 on. Here. They can't seem to get it together. Here it is. In 2640 02:32:00,780 --> 02:32:01,560 fact, there it 2641 02:32:01,560 --> 02:32:04,080 Unknown: is. Farming needs to stop. That's the single biggest 2642 02:32:04,080 --> 02:32:05,820 driver of climate change. Oh, 2643 02:32:05,820 --> 02:32:09,780 Adam Curry: so farming is the problem, but we need to eat 2644 02:32:09,780 --> 02:32:10,440 plants. 2645 02:32:11,220 --> 02:32:14,760 John C Dvorak: Yeah. So I don't know where they get in this, but 2646 02:32:15,120 --> 02:32:19,320 so my last climate clip is the one where the bread, eat bread, 2647 02:32:19,320 --> 02:32:20,960 bread will solve the problem. 2648 02:32:21,020 --> 02:32:24,020 Adam Curry: What if you could help address climate change by 2649 02:32:24,080 --> 02:32:27,920 eating more whole wheat bread? It is not the biggest solution, 2650 02:32:27,920 --> 02:32:31,700 but it might be the tastiest. No, not brown bread. Mom, here's 2651 02:32:31,760 --> 02:32:35,600 100 Burundi explains, oh, Sammy, you're saving the Earth. It's 2652 02:32:35,600 --> 02:32:38,060 Unknown: warm and fragrant at the Washington State University 2653 02:32:38,060 --> 02:32:40,600 bread lab, where a group of scientists and professional 2654 02:32:40,600 --> 02:32:44,260 bakers have gathered to taste slices of soft, mahogany Brown 2655 02:32:44,320 --> 02:32:47,320 100% whole wheat loaf just out of the oven. 2656 02:32:47,800 --> 02:32:49,840 That's the best ever. That is amazing. That's 2657 02:32:49,840 --> 02:32:52,780 Stephen Jones. He's a wheat breeder and Baker, and until he 2658 02:32:52,780 --> 02:32:55,720 retired recently, he led the bread lab. He wants to help 2659 02:32:55,720 --> 02:32:59,920 Americans learn to love whole wheat, because when wheat gets 2660 02:32:59,920 --> 02:33:02,820 turned into white flour. Joan says the rest of the kernel is 2661 02:33:02,820 --> 02:33:07,020 discarded. We could increase the amount of food that we get per 2662 02:33:07,020 --> 02:33:11,400 wheat acre by 30% if we just eat the whole wheat. Turning more 2663 02:33:11,400 --> 02:33:15,000 food grown into food eaten cuts the climate impact. 2664 02:33:16,440 --> 02:33:19,920 Adam Curry: I just want everyone to know that we can't vote our 2665 02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:26,360 way out of this situation, daddy Trump is not going to fix all of 2666 02:33:26,360 --> 02:33:30,920 our problems. We need to kill the elites. We need to stop the 2667 02:33:30,920 --> 02:33:35,060 nonsense and eat them. Eat them. Yes, we need to eat them. We 2668 02:33:35,060 --> 02:33:40,160 need to take a stand and say no, no, no to your climate change 2669 02:33:40,160 --> 02:33:43,240 nonsense. Oh, 2670 02:33:44,260 --> 02:33:46,360 John C Dvorak: you're in the minority. That's the problem. 2671 02:33:46,360 --> 02:33:46,660 No, we're 2672 02:33:46,660 --> 02:33:48,160 Adam Curry: not in the minority. It's all it's 2673 02:33:48,160 --> 02:33:51,220 John C Dvorak: just so, no, well, Chris, I'm in California, 2674 02:33:51,220 --> 02:33:52,180 so I you're 2675 02:33:52,180 --> 02:33:54,940 Adam Curry: in the minority. Yeah, I'm definitely. And while 2676 02:33:54,940 --> 02:33:58,480 we're at it, chop off California now that earthquake was a good 2677 02:33:58,480 --> 02:34:02,760 start. Yeah, it's gonna take a while. Well, there's gonna be a 2678 02:34:02,760 --> 02:34:05,340 big one. It's gonna break off and float away, and we're not 2679 02:34:05,340 --> 02:34:07,500 gonna throw you a life raft. 2680 02:34:08,580 --> 02:34:10,620 John C Dvorak: I think it's going in the other direction. 2681 02:34:10,680 --> 02:34:14,220 What California is pushing in for more. 2682 02:34:16,920 --> 02:34:17,880 Adam Curry: I hope not. 2683 02:34:18,660 --> 02:34:21,020 John C Dvorak: You know the there's, if you want. I don't 2684 02:34:21,020 --> 02:34:24,800 know if I had a presentation for this before, but there's a lot 2685 02:34:24,800 --> 02:34:27,800 of thinking about, how did the Rockies form? Because they, they 2686 02:34:27,800 --> 02:34:30,500 know how impact. You know, when you have the tectonic plate 2687 02:34:30,500 --> 02:34:34,220 shifts, it creates mountain ranges. And they're all They're 2688 02:34:34,220 --> 02:34:38,120 all accounted for. But except the Rocky Mountains, can't be 2689 02:34:38,120 --> 02:34:41,740 perfectly explained unless you unless you make the assumption 2690 02:34:42,220 --> 02:34:46,360 this is these guys would spend their time on this stuff, that 2691 02:34:46,360 --> 02:34:52,720 when the when the giant one gob of Earth mass, uh, started 2692 02:34:52,720 --> 02:34:56,980 moving away from split off of Europe and Africa, and started 2693 02:34:56,980 --> 02:35:02,580 moving to toward the west. Uh. That it impacted something that 2694 02:35:02,580 --> 02:35:05,880 may have been in the middle of that giant Pacific Ocean that 2695 02:35:06,540 --> 02:35:09,780 another landmass has never been accounted for, which turns out 2696 02:35:09,780 --> 02:35:15,720 to be California, and it rammed into it with big, solid chunk, 2697 02:35:16,260 --> 02:35:19,560 and that's what pushed up the Rockies, because there's nothing 2698 02:35:19,560 --> 02:35:23,900 else that could have possibly done it, except, yeah, uplift, 2699 02:35:23,960 --> 02:35:27,080 Adam Curry: except, God, that's my that's my story. 2700 02:35:27,740 --> 02:35:30,740 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I'm assuming that the nature is set 2701 02:35:30,740 --> 02:35:34,220 up to do certain things, and uplift is one of them. And so 2702 02:35:34,220 --> 02:35:37,100 that means that California, and I'm convinced of this, 2703 02:35:37,220 --> 02:35:43,000 California and much, much of the West, are very where we are is 2704 02:35:43,000 --> 02:35:46,780 not part of the big group that moved over. It was always here, 2705 02:35:46,780 --> 02:35:51,340 and it's always been a different situation. That's why the land 2706 02:35:51,340 --> 02:35:52,660 here is somewhat toxic. 2707 02:35:52,720 --> 02:35:56,200 Adam Curry: So, yes, exactly. It's always been a hellscape, 2708 02:35:56,200 --> 02:35:58,300 and the land is toxic. It's 2709 02:35:58,300 --> 02:36:00,180 John C Dvorak: always been a hellscape. Traditionally, it's 2710 02:36:00,180 --> 02:36:03,900 always on fire. There's a lot of earthquakes. Yes, and it's 2711 02:36:03,900 --> 02:36:07,560 toxic. You can't agriculture. That's why the wine in Napa 2712 02:36:07,560 --> 02:36:11,160 Valley isn't as good as you get from France. It's just filled 2713 02:36:11,160 --> 02:36:13,200 with vinegar. It's got the 2714 02:36:13,200 --> 02:36:18,540 Adam Curry: whole place. I'm we agree 100% Yeah, California is 2715 02:36:18,540 --> 02:36:21,020 toxic. It's always on fire. 2716 02:36:21,020 --> 02:36:21,980 John C Dvorak: It's always 2717 02:36:23,000 --> 02:36:26,240 Adam Curry: been, yes, whatever happened to breaking off as your 2718 02:36:26,240 --> 02:36:29,240 own state over there? I always thought that was a good idea. 2719 02:36:29,600 --> 02:36:31,820 John C Dvorak: Yeah, you'd think that. But you're Texas, you're 2720 02:36:31,820 --> 02:36:34,280 Texas, always wants to do that. So why don't you do it there 2721 02:36:34,280 --> 02:36:34,880 first, 2722 02:36:35,000 --> 02:36:35,720 Adam Curry: sure 2723 02:36:36,740 --> 02:36:39,260 John C Dvorak: you know as your own country, not only, good 2724 02:36:39,260 --> 02:36:42,640 Adam Curry: luck charging your EV on wind power, and we're not 2725 02:36:42,640 --> 02:36:45,520 going to export any oil and gas to you. We 2726 02:36:45,520 --> 02:36:47,560 John C Dvorak: have plenty of oil and gas here that they 2727 02:36:47,560 --> 02:36:49,960 refuse to exploit Exactly, 2728 02:36:51,040 --> 02:36:52,000 Unknown: exactly. 2729 02:36:53,560 --> 02:36:59,200 John C Dvorak: And now, it turns out, since my my son in law, 2730 02:36:59,560 --> 02:37:03,960 married to Jay, works at Chevron, oh, one of the biggest 2731 02:37:03,960 --> 02:37:05,580 oil refiners on the West Coast. 2732 02:37:05,640 --> 02:37:08,880 Adam Curry: Oh, you're a fossil fuel family. Yeah, 2733 02:37:10,260 --> 02:37:12,600 John C Dvorak: they're thinking of shutting down the refinery 2734 02:37:12,600 --> 02:37:16,620 completely and moving the whole thing to Houston, exactly 2735 02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:20,340 Adam Curry: the prop in the Republic of Texas. 2736 02:37:21,840 --> 02:37:26,480 John C Dvorak: And, this is and then we have situations like, I 2737 02:37:26,480 --> 02:37:29,900 think there's a we have a clip here on California gasoline 2738 02:37:29,900 --> 02:37:30,680 prices. 2739 02:37:32,900 --> 02:37:35,840 Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, you do, yeah, I'll play it. Yes. Gas 2740 02:37:35,900 --> 02:37:36,320 prices 2741 02:37:36,320 --> 02:37:39,500 Unknown: are up nearly $2 more per gallon across northern 2742 02:37:39,500 --> 02:37:42,040 California when compared to the rest of the country, 2743 02:37:42,340 --> 02:37:46,060 California's oil market watchdog Ty milder attributes this to 2744 02:37:46,060 --> 02:37:48,940 refineries going offline for maintenance without enough 2745 02:37:48,940 --> 02:37:50,080 backup supply. 2746 02:37:50,260 --> 02:37:54,340 Gas prices in California are going up at the same time that 2747 02:37:54,340 --> 02:37:56,440 national gas prices are going down. 2748 02:37:57,040 --> 02:38:00,360 Governor Gavin Newsom has called a special legislative session to 2749 02:38:00,360 --> 02:38:03,960 require companies to keep more supplies on hand. Industry 2750 02:38:03,960 --> 02:38:07,200 groups have said that could increase costs by forcing 2751 02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:10,080 refiners to keep fuel in storage and off the market. 2752 02:38:10,260 --> 02:38:14,460 Adam Curry: I think is great. We cut off California. You keep 2753 02:38:14,460 --> 02:38:17,760 your social media companies keep Silicon Valley. We can use 2754 02:38:17,760 --> 02:38:20,040 Android. We don't need iPhones. 2755 02:38:21,180 --> 02:38:23,360 John C Dvorak: Just keep all that comes out of California 2756 02:38:23,360 --> 02:38:23,720 too, 2757 02:38:25,880 --> 02:38:27,200 Unknown: Google, yeah, but 2758 02:38:27,200 --> 02:38:29,660 Adam Curry: we don't need to buy Google. It's we have open source 2759 02:38:29,660 --> 02:38:34,520 Android. We're just going to use open source over here. Y'all, I 2760 02:38:34,520 --> 02:38:36,440 John C Dvorak: have to mention something about the California 2761 02:38:36,440 --> 02:38:40,720 this is a this is a blooming problem, and the Democrats are 2762 02:38:40,720 --> 02:38:43,420 too stupid to figure it. Figure it out, they've changed. The 2763 02:38:43,420 --> 02:38:47,380 problem with California gasoline is that some years ago, somebody 2764 02:38:47,380 --> 02:38:49,900 pointed this out to me, and I was bitching about the taxes on 2765 02:38:49,900 --> 02:38:54,280 the gasoline. And Chevron is one of the companies that makes 2766 02:38:54,280 --> 02:38:58,840 gasoline for California. And I say for California because the 2767 02:38:58,840 --> 02:39:03,480 gasoline blend for California is different than the entire rest 2768 02:39:03,480 --> 02:39:08,820 of the country. Oh, it's a low smog version. It's got some some 2769 02:39:08,820 --> 02:39:11,820 stuff in it. I don't know exactly what the makeup is, but 2770 02:39:11,820 --> 02:39:12,360 there's work. 2771 02:39:12,360 --> 02:39:13,320 Adam Curry: Does it work? Well, 2772 02:39:14,520 --> 02:39:17,160 John C Dvorak: it's gasoline. It works fine. You know, the people 2773 02:39:17,160 --> 02:39:21,740 don't realize that gasoline is a blend of just this of witches 2774 02:39:21,740 --> 02:39:26,480 brew of explosive chemicals that are all mixed up with all kinds 2775 02:39:26,480 --> 02:39:30,920 of volatiles in there, like butane, and there's all kinds of 2776 02:39:30,920 --> 02:39:34,220 weird stuff in gasoline. But it's not the same. From tank to 2777 02:39:34,220 --> 02:39:36,440 tank, you're always running different stuff through but 2778 02:39:36,440 --> 02:39:39,980 California has to have some some elements of something or other 2779 02:39:39,980 --> 02:39:45,220 in their gas, supposedly to lower pollution, and it's nobody 2780 02:39:45,220 --> 02:39:49,180 else makes this gas, except a couple of refineries. And so if 2781 02:39:49,180 --> 02:39:53,560 Chevron moves to Houston that we won't have enough gasoline to do 2782 02:39:53,560 --> 02:39:56,320 anything. That's why I think they're trying to move everyone 2783 02:39:56,320 --> 02:40:00,480 to electric cars here in California faster than. Anybody 2784 02:40:00,480 --> 02:40:04,200 else, but then we haven't got it's a mess. It's a ridiculous, 2785 02:40:04,440 --> 02:40:07,260 mismanaged, corrupt state, 2786 02:40:08,040 --> 02:40:09,120 Adam Curry: and it's toxic, 2787 02:40:11,340 --> 02:40:15,240 John C Dvorak: and it is toxic too. Yeah, you have to deal with 2788 02:40:15,240 --> 02:40:18,000 that. Now, I have one other clip from California, since we're on 2789 02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:24,560 the topic, yeah, now they want to do a I legislation first in 2790 02:40:24,560 --> 02:40:28,220 the country? Yes. Okay, I don't know what this legislation is 2791 02:40:28,220 --> 02:40:30,740 going to do, but this is going to be a huge problem for Newsom, 2792 02:40:30,740 --> 02:40:33,020 because he doesn't know what to do about this. And this is the 2793 02:40:33,020 --> 02:40:34,940 clip. Is a I Kelly, California 2794 02:40:34,940 --> 02:40:37,880 Unknown: Governor Gavin Newsom is considering whether to sign 2795 02:40:37,880 --> 02:40:41,140 or veto an artificial intelligence bill and pierce 2796 02:40:41,140 --> 02:40:44,260 Bobby Allen reports the measure of past would be the strictest 2797 02:40:44,260 --> 02:40:45,880 AI regulations in the country. 2798 02:40:46,720 --> 02:40:50,200 The AI Bill has fiercely divided the tech industry. Supporting 2799 02:40:50,200 --> 02:40:53,320 it, AI researchers who warn about the societal risks of the 2800 02:40:53,320 --> 02:40:56,260 technology. It also has won the support from Ai startup 2801 02:40:56,260 --> 02:41:00,160 anthropic and Elon Musk, but opposing the bill are chatgpt, 2802 02:41:00,160 --> 02:41:03,600 maker open AI high profile venture capitalists and AI 2803 02:41:03,600 --> 02:41:06,300 startup founders, they say the regulations would slow 2804 02:41:06,300 --> 02:41:09,300 innovation and allow other countries to leapfrog the US and 2805 02:41:09,300 --> 02:41:12,540 AI development criticism of the bill did lead to a softer 2806 02:41:12,540 --> 02:41:15,660 version being passed, but it still requires AI companies to 2807 02:41:15,660 --> 02:41:18,720 conduct safety tests and requires firms to be able to 2808 02:41:18,720 --> 02:41:23,300 enable a kill switch if AI systems go rogue, there are no 2809 02:41:23,300 --> 02:41:27,260 federal laws regulating AI in the US, Governor Newsom has 2810 02:41:27,260 --> 02:41:29,420 until september 30 to act on the bill. 2811 02:41:29,720 --> 02:41:32,420 Adam Curry: Well, finally, Elon Musk has done I was about to 2812 02:41:32,420 --> 02:41:35,540 send him back to California, but we'll keep him now, if he's 2813 02:41:35,540 --> 02:41:38,780 supporting bogus Legislation in California, 2814 02:41:40,400 --> 02:41:42,460 John C Dvorak: that's true. You have to have a kill switch, and 2815 02:41:42,460 --> 02:41:46,180 you have to have testing. I don't know what this testing is. 2816 02:41:46,180 --> 02:41:50,380 What do you how do you test? You know, algorithms like this and 2817 02:41:50,380 --> 02:41:53,800 and who's going to enforce these laws? That's the other thing 2818 02:41:53,800 --> 02:41:56,800 that you need an enforcement department, which is really 2819 02:41:56,800 --> 02:42:01,200 expensive. This is prep bull crap, and I think you should be. 2820 02:42:02,220 --> 02:42:03,720 I'm surprised that you're 2821 02:42:04,080 --> 02:42:05,700 Adam Curry: that I'm not all over it. 2822 02:42:06,360 --> 02:42:06,900 Unknown: Yeah, 2823 02:42:07,440 --> 02:42:10,440 John C Dvorak: you're the AI hater of the two of us. I am. 2824 02:42:10,500 --> 02:42:13,980 Adam Curry: I am the AI hater. Have you? Have you seen the 2825 02:42:13,980 --> 02:42:24,980 latest that they're doing with with AI? Maybe? There it's 2826 02:42:24,980 --> 02:42:30,800 notebook LM is what it's called. Don't know it so notebook LM, I 2827 02:42:30,860 --> 02:42:40,600 guess, is some kind of it's like a closed loop AI system, so you 2828 02:42:40,600 --> 02:42:45,820 can put in documents that that only you care about, and then 2829 02:42:45,820 --> 02:42:49,660 you can do AI stuff with it, whatever that means, 2830 02:42:50,800 --> 02:42:52,180 John C Dvorak: query it. Probably, yeah. 2831 02:42:52,180 --> 02:42:55,540 Adam Curry: You could, yeah. You can query it. But now they have 2832 02:42:55,540 --> 02:42:59,080 an extra I'm looking for it. I thought I had a link. I think I 2833 02:42:59,080 --> 02:43:04,980 do. Now you can put in an extra thing, and you can say, make a 2834 02:43:04,980 --> 02:43:08,880 podcast out of these documents, which, by the way, if it was any 2835 02:43:08,880 --> 02:43:15,960 good, I would be all for it, but it makes these, let me see, oh, 2836 02:43:15,960 --> 02:43:19,680 man, I hope I have this here. It makes a podcast. Yes, yes, it 2837 02:43:19,680 --> 02:43:25,820 makes a podcast. Okay, so this, in this case, this guy put in 2838 02:43:27,380 --> 02:43:33,080 100,000 word document of like random nothing, of random text 2839 02:43:33,560 --> 02:43:37,880 titled it patent, dot text, gave it to the notebook and listen. 2840 02:43:37,940 --> 02:43:40,180 So this thing that makes a podcast, by the way, 2841 02:43:40,180 --> 02:43:42,100 John C Dvorak: you know, I want to stop you here and say, I 2842 02:43:42,100 --> 02:43:48,160 really, uh, admire the fact that you are, you act. You are the 2843 02:43:48,160 --> 02:43:51,460 pod file. You keep track of everything that has anything to 2844 02:43:51,460 --> 02:43:55,900 do with podcasting at the most minute level. I never heard of 2845 02:43:55,900 --> 02:43:56,140 this. 2846 02:43:56,140 --> 02:43:58,180 Adam Curry: Somebody has to protect the medium. 2847 02:44:01,120 --> 02:44:02,760 John C Dvorak: And that's actually the way you see it. 2848 02:44:02,760 --> 02:44:03,480 Yes. Funny, 2849 02:44:03,480 --> 02:44:05,880 Adam Curry: yes, I do here. Listen, so we've got another 2850 02:44:05,880 --> 02:44:08,400 head scratcher this week. These, 2851 02:44:08,940 --> 02:44:12,360 Unknown: these patent files you sent in had me a little bit 2852 02:44:12,360 --> 02:44:16,320 stumped. I gotta say, yeah, it's we've got a bunch of text files, 2853 02:44:16,380 --> 02:44:19,740 okay, all named patent, but with these little numbers tacked on, 2854 02:44:19,740 --> 02:44:22,940 right, patent to patent for that kind of thing. Interesting. And 2855 02:44:22,940 --> 02:44:24,140 I open these things up. Why 2856 02:44:24,140 --> 02:44:25,160 John C Dvorak: is that interesting? 2857 02:44:25,340 --> 02:44:27,800 Adam Curry: This? This is what is that interesting? This is 2858 02:44:27,800 --> 02:44:30,860 what the AI thinks a podcast should sound like between two 2859 02:44:30,860 --> 02:44:33,740 people. Oh, this is the podcast we're listening to. Yes, you're 2860 02:44:33,740 --> 02:44:35,780 listening to the podcast. This is an 2861 02:44:36,800 --> 02:44:41,080 John C Dvorak: dipshit. These are fake voices, yes. And so we 2862 02:44:41,080 --> 02:44:44,920 have a guy, and this is, like a typical, this is, like fashioned 2863 02:44:44,920 --> 02:44:49,420 after NPR, some guy, exactly, and a dipshit woman who's going, 2864 02:44:49,420 --> 02:44:54,880 yeah, oh, some moron, yes. And okay, now I'm interested 2865 02:44:54,880 --> 02:44:55,480 basically 2866 02:44:55,480 --> 02:44:57,940 Adam Curry: pivot the pivot podcast. Please start 2867 02:44:57,940 --> 02:45:01,380 John C Dvorak: it over. Okay. Okay, so another 2868 02:45:01,380 --> 02:45:05,400 Unknown: head scratcher this week. These, these patent files 2869 02:45:05,400 --> 02:45:09,840 you sent in had me a little bit stumped. I gotta say, yeah, it's 2870 02:45:10,380 --> 02:45:13,980 we've got a bunch of text files, okay, all named patent, but with 2871 02:45:13,980 --> 02:45:16,740 these little numbers tacked on, right, right, patent to patent 2872 02:45:16,740 --> 02:45:18,960 for that kind of thing, interesting. And I open these 2873 02:45:18,960 --> 02:45:23,120 things up, and it's just line after line of binary. Oh, wow, 2874 02:45:23,720 --> 02:45:27,380 ones and zeros, as far as the I can see. Okay, so that's our 2875 02:45:27,380 --> 02:45:31,280 challenge. Today. We are diving headfirst into the world of, 2876 02:45:32,600 --> 02:45:36,620 Adam Curry: well, binary code. Now I think that what I like 2877 02:45:36,620 --> 02:45:40,840 about this particular AI is it adds the UHS and the ums to it. 2878 02:45:41,260 --> 02:45:47,200 But for some reason, the podcast format has to be someone taking 2879 02:45:47,200 --> 02:45:50,620 the lead on talking and the other someone going, Oh yeah, 2880 02:45:50,680 --> 02:45:54,040 yay, right, yeah, shoot. Let's do get let's do it. Do it 2881 02:45:54,100 --> 02:45:56,380 Unknown: to see if we can crack this code to figure out what in 2882 02:45:56,380 --> 02:45:59,740 the world is going on. Absolutely so before we get too 2883 02:45:59,740 --> 02:46:03,300 far, I think it might be helpful, sure, for some of our 2884 02:46:03,300 --> 02:46:05,460 listeners to do a little bit of a binary one, 2885 02:46:05,820 --> 02:46:09,300 John C Dvorak: hold on. She's a little too this is a they gotta 2886 02:46:09,360 --> 02:46:12,360 tone. They gotta turn her down a little bit. She's She's, it 2887 02:46:12,540 --> 02:46:17,220 every phrase just she's throwing a bit in there. It's like, oh, 2888 02:46:17,280 --> 02:46:23,000 ah, yeah. There's too much of that. They gotta fix that. Hey, 2889 02:46:23,120 --> 02:46:24,020 unfixable. 2890 02:46:24,080 --> 02:46:27,380 Adam Curry: I'm looking looking forward to the day when we just 2891 02:46:27,380 --> 02:46:32,000 throw a bunch of clips and and and show notes stories into a 2892 02:46:32,000 --> 02:46:37,700 bin, and then I stay in bed on Thursday and Sunday and the show 2893 02:46:37,700 --> 02:46:39,020 is just the show, just 2894 02:46:39,020 --> 02:46:41,620 Unknown: the very basics. What are we even talking about when 2895 02:46:41,620 --> 02:46:43,540 we say binary code, right? 2896 02:46:43,600 --> 02:46:46,720 So at its simplest, binary is really just a way of 2897 02:46:46,720 --> 02:46:47,620 representing 2898 02:46:47,920 --> 02:46:50,680 Adam Curry: now they're gonna switch roles. She's talking and 2899 02:46:50,680 --> 02:46:53,620 he's gonna do the Oh yeah, really, oh yeah. She's 2900 02:46:53,620 --> 02:46:56,500 Unknown: using only two options, okay, so instead of our 10 2901 02:46:56,500 --> 02:46:59,140 digits, like we use in our everyday lives, you know, zero 2902 02:46:59,140 --> 02:47:02,940 through nine, right, right. Binary uses just zero and one. 2903 02:47:02,940 --> 02:47:03,240 Got 2904 02:47:03,240 --> 02:47:04,320 it those two 2905 02:47:04,320 --> 02:47:07,980 digits, that's all we need to build even the most complex 2906 02:47:07,980 --> 02:47:08,640 information. So 2907 02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:11,160 it's kind of like a light switch, exactly. It's either on 2908 02:47:11,160 --> 02:47:13,320 or off. That's it one or zero to 2909 02:47:14,940 --> 02:47:16,560 Adam Curry: kill myself. Now. 2910 02:47:20,340 --> 02:47:23,420 John C Dvorak: Okay, stop. Yes. Clip of the Day. Well, 2911 02:47:23,420 --> 02:47:26,840 Adam Curry: thank you. I What this? It wasn't even intended to 2912 02:47:26,840 --> 02:47:28,520 put it on the list today, but I'll take 2913 02:47:30,620 --> 02:47:34,040 John C Dvorak: it unbelievable, yeah, but I like the kibitzing, 2914 02:47:34,040 --> 02:47:39,440 the constant never ending, not like we do. I interrupt each 2915 02:47:39,440 --> 02:47:43,240 other, kind of in a different way to stop things, but it's but 2916 02:47:43,240 --> 02:47:44,980 this is always encouraging. All right? 2917 02:47:44,980 --> 02:47:46,120 Unknown: Oh yes, okay, 2918 02:47:46,180 --> 02:47:47,800 John C Dvorak: oh yeah, good, yeah. Like, interesting, 2919 02:47:47,800 --> 02:47:50,740 Adam Curry: yeah, very good. Keep going, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2920 02:47:54,040 --> 02:47:57,760 This is why I have no fear of AI at all. 2921 02:47:58,420 --> 02:48:00,180 Unknown: I'm gonna show my food by donating to 2922 02:48:00,180 --> 02:48:03,180 no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, 2923 02:48:03,180 --> 02:48:04,080 yeah, that'd be fun. 2924 02:48:11,340 --> 02:48:13,800 Adam Curry: Well, we do have a bunch of AI donations which have 2925 02:48:13,800 --> 02:48:16,620 come in, which is all automatic. It comes from PayPal. We've 2926 02:48:16,620 --> 02:48:20,160 programmed it so that it just sends money to us from your 2927 02:48:20,160 --> 02:48:23,240 PayPal account. Thank you very much. It even adds little notes, 2928 02:48:23,420 --> 02:48:26,300 and sometimes we'll read them $50 and above. Right now, we 2929 02:48:26,300 --> 02:48:30,200 thank all of these. Producer AIS for supporting the best podcast 2930 02:48:30,200 --> 02:48:33,320 in the universe. John, take us through them. First 2931 02:48:33,320 --> 02:48:35,120 John C Dvorak: of all, I'd like to say I've heard worst 2932 02:48:35,120 --> 02:48:35,960 podcasts. 2933 02:48:37,040 --> 02:48:41,260 Adam Curry: Yeah, the AI and on Tiktok. Yes, we have, we have 2934 02:48:41,620 --> 02:48:42,040 Lucas 2935 02:48:42,040 --> 02:48:43,900 John C Dvorak: Williams starts us off, and he is in the 2936 02:48:43,900 --> 02:48:48,880 fabulous town of Roswell, New Mexico. Yeah, 100 bucks. Uh, 2937 02:48:49,720 --> 02:48:56,020 Debbie hyphen, oh, what do you think heifer hyphen ish, maybe, 2938 02:48:56,080 --> 02:48:59,320 yeah, maybe in spring Texas, she came in with 100 but she has a 2939 02:48:59,320 --> 02:49:02,460 little thing I want to say she wrote this is because John is 2940 02:49:02,460 --> 02:49:06,360 nagging online. I do love the shows, and should probably 2941 02:49:06,360 --> 02:49:12,480 donate more often. Don't let them eat the cats. Be a theme 2942 02:49:12,480 --> 02:49:16,740 forever. There you go. Adriana Marshall in Shrewsbury, UK, a 2943 02:49:16,800 --> 02:49:21,800 100 up already. This a very short list. Kevin McLaughlin, 2944 02:49:22,160 --> 02:49:27,620 808. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of American boobs, sir 2945 02:49:27,620 --> 02:49:34,700 bachaviche in Miami, Florida, 6776 is for his daughter, 2946 02:49:34,700 --> 02:49:41,440 Josephine. Maybe a switcheroo, not sure. Uh, circus media, the 2947 02:49:41,440 --> 02:49:47,560 Baron of Bozeman, in Bozeman, of all places, Montana, 6180, and 2948 02:49:47,560 --> 02:49:50,440 is a happy birthday to you. Adam. Oh, thank you. 2949 02:49:50,800 --> 02:49:51,340 Adam Curry: Thank you. 2950 02:49:53,020 --> 02:49:57,400 John C Dvorak: Uh. David Weicker, wicker, Jackson wicker, 2951 02:49:57,400 --> 02:49:57,700 wicker, 2952 02:49:57,700 --> 02:50:01,140 Adam Curry: that's served by His grace at. Yeah, you mispronounce 2953 02:50:01,140 --> 02:50:04,980 his name every single time, and it irks him. But 2954 02:50:04,980 --> 02:50:06,780 John C Dvorak: I can say, keep saying wicker. Would 2955 02:50:06,780 --> 02:50:08,760 Adam Curry: you keep saying Wiker? Weicker? 2956 02:50:08,760 --> 02:50:13,080 John C Dvorak: Yeah, Weicker. I had this. It's a I can kind of, 2957 02:50:13,140 --> 02:50:15,660 I think it's because it was a congressman or somebody named 2958 02:50:15,660 --> 02:50:19,140 Weicker that I can't get it out of my head. Okay. Well, you're 2959 02:50:19,140 --> 02:50:22,220 excited. He's got another Happy birthday to you. 6006 he's in 2960 02:50:22,220 --> 02:50:24,680 Jacksonville, Florida. Robin, no 2961 02:50:24,680 --> 02:50:28,400 Adam Curry: no, wait, no wait. He has a happy birthday for his 2962 02:50:28,400 --> 02:50:34,700 dad, his dad, who turned 83 on 911 best dad ever. Thank God for 2963 02:50:34,700 --> 02:50:37,700 great fathers. They make all the difference. That's what he says. 2964 02:50:39,740 --> 02:50:45,100 John C Dvorak: Robin Tolbert in Topeka, Kansas, 60 another. 2965 02:50:45,100 --> 02:50:49,540 Happy birthday to you. This is dragging on. Yeah. David in 2966 02:50:49,540 --> 02:50:57,340 coming Georgia, 5809 Christopher dector In Parts Unknown, 5678 2967 02:50:58,420 --> 02:51:02,700 these are all $50 donations, basically. Uh, well, that's kind 2968 02:51:02,700 --> 02:51:08,280 of a high no as much No. That's that's not okay, right? No. 2969 02:51:08,700 --> 02:51:13,320 Ronald mills in Florence, South Carolina, 5345 that sounds like 2970 02:51:13,320 --> 02:51:21,200 a 50 mark. Hardwick in Alito, Texas, 5333 Lydia Terry 2971 02:51:21,200 --> 02:51:30,500 dominelli, 53 A Silent Night zero. Picorillo, picarillo, or 2972 02:51:30,680 --> 02:51:33,800 picture RELO one of the two in Hendersonville, North Carolina. 2973 02:51:34,520 --> 02:51:39,740 5272 answering the call of the sad puppy. Dame Jan in Athens, 2974 02:51:39,740 --> 02:51:43,600 Georgia, and the sad puppy keeps showing up on Sundays, Dame Jan 2975 02:51:43,600 --> 02:51:47,920 in Athens, Georgia, 51 and this is a note you can read because 2976 02:51:47,920 --> 02:51:48,640 it's a Daming. 2977 02:51:48,760 --> 02:51:51,220 Adam Curry: Yes, we go, dear John and Adam. I've reached 2978 02:51:51,280 --> 02:51:54,940 another $1,000 with my bi monthly donations, and I'm 2979 02:51:54,940 --> 02:51:58,180 gifting a dame hood to my daughter, Sonia for her 18th 2980 02:51:58,240 --> 02:52:00,540 birthday. Also added to the birthday list for Wednesday, 2981 02:52:00,600 --> 02:52:04,740 September 18, she's on it. Please Knight her or Dame her, 2982 02:52:04,860 --> 02:52:08,520 simply Dame Sonia. And for the round table, please add Maryland 2983 02:52:08,520 --> 02:52:12,840 steamed shrimp and lobster tails, nice, if at all possible. 2984 02:52:12,840 --> 02:52:15,720 Add to the end of show mixes the Beatles parody. You know, you 2985 02:52:15,720 --> 02:52:18,300 know, since she used to sing it around the house after it first 2986 02:52:18,300 --> 02:52:21,260 aired, it was my first real introduction to the show. Also 2987 02:52:21,260 --> 02:52:25,880 happy birthday to dad, Joe, turning 51 on September 20. This 2988 02:52:25,880 --> 02:52:29,420 is from Dane Jen, and since it's only 20 seconds long, instead of 2989 02:52:29,420 --> 02:52:36,500 adding it to the end, I'll play it now. Yeah, no, yeah, no, 2990 02:52:36,500 --> 02:52:42,520 yeah, no, you're saying yeah, you'll say no, yeah, no, yeah, 2991 02:52:42,520 --> 02:52:44,680 no, you know, yeah, no, 2992 02:52:44,800 --> 02:52:48,100 Unknown: I don't know why you're saying yeah, while saying 2993 02:52:48,160 --> 02:52:50,500 John C Dvorak: no, yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah, 2994 02:52:52,060 --> 02:52:55,480 Unknown: no, I don't know why you're saying yeah while saying 2995 02:52:55,480 --> 02:52:56,800 no, yeah, 2996 02:52:56,800 --> 02:52:59,800 John C Dvorak: no, yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah, no, you 2997 02:52:59,800 --> 02:53:01,560 Adam Curry: Know a classic, classic jingle. 2998 02:53:01,620 --> 02:53:05,400 John C Dvorak: It is a classic onwards story, economic hit man 2999 02:53:05,400 --> 02:53:10,800 in tumble, Texas, 5001 and now we got the $50 donors. I'll 3000 02:53:10,800 --> 02:53:13,560 start and just name a location. I'll start with Brandon Savoy 3001 02:53:13,560 --> 02:53:17,340 and port orchard, Washington. Jared yaw in Nashville, 3002 02:53:17,340 --> 02:53:20,420 Tennessee. Dame Patricia Worthington is still with us. 3003 02:53:20,420 --> 02:53:24,860 And she's in Miami, Florida. Christian Freeman in San Marcos, 3004 02:53:24,860 --> 02:53:27,260 Texas. Kevin dills in Huntersville, North Carolina. 3005 02:53:27,260 --> 02:53:33,080 Diane back in johnsburg, Illinois. Michael Thompson in 3006 02:53:33,080 --> 02:53:37,700 new brown fells, Texas, bronze. Oh, yeah, I turned Braunfels, 3007 02:53:38,000 --> 02:53:41,140 yeah, Braunfels is he used to make a great product. There a 3008 02:53:41,200 --> 02:53:44,620 barbecue pit. It was the Hondo. 3009 02:53:44,740 --> 02:53:46,600 Adam Curry: Hondo was another town nearby 3010 02:53:48,400 --> 02:53:53,140 John C Dvorak: my and then they stopped. So now you gotta it was 3011 02:53:53,140 --> 02:53:59,380 such a great product. Michael peratch in Salem, Oregon, North 3012 02:53:59,380 --> 02:54:04,500 Stonington, Connecticut, gives us easy landscapes. Philip 3013 02:54:04,500 --> 02:54:08,940 Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky. Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, 3014 02:54:08,940 --> 02:54:14,820 Alberta, sir. Chris Carl Vogler. Vogler in Dillon Beach, 3015 02:54:14,820 --> 02:54:20,180 California, sir. Jerry wing and Roth in Saugus, California. And 3016 02:54:20,180 --> 02:54:25,760 last on the list is Dame Tracy and Sir cane break in St George, 3017 02:54:25,760 --> 02:54:29,300 Louisiana. I want to thank these people for helping us finish off 3018 02:54:29,600 --> 02:54:35,240 and complete show 1695. Five shows away from show 1700 1700 3019 02:54:35,720 --> 02:54:39,920 Adam Curry: shows. And coming up in October, our 17th anniversary 3020 02:54:39,920 --> 02:54:42,880 running at value for value we cannot thank you enough for the 3021 02:54:42,880 --> 02:54:47,140 value you return, time, talent and treasure. Thank you to 3022 02:54:47,140 --> 02:54:51,640 everyone who came in under $50 anonymity always assured under 3023 02:54:51,640 --> 02:54:53,860 50, and of course, our sustaining donations, we 3024 02:54:53,860 --> 02:54:57,160 recommend everybody do that to keep the show going through the 3025 02:54:57,160 --> 02:55:01,860 slower periods by going to no agenda donation. Dot com, and 3026 02:55:01,860 --> 02:55:05,100 you can set your own amount and frequency that you'd like to 3027 02:55:05,100 --> 02:55:10,680 donate. There's no other levels or firewalls or paywall 3028 02:55:10,680 --> 02:55:15,780 firewall. The premium content is upfront, and it's all there for 3029 02:55:15,780 --> 02:55:18,300 you to enjoy, whether you support us or not. But if you're 3030 02:55:18,300 --> 02:55:22,160 still listening, what are you doing? Remember us at no agenda, 3031 02:55:22,160 --> 02:55:24,980 donations.com. Thank you again. Very, very much. 3032 02:55:31,880 --> 02:55:34,700 And as we said, David wicker says Happy Birthday to his dad. 3033 02:55:34,700 --> 02:55:38,300 He turned 83 on September 11, sir, not sure about to become 3034 02:55:38,300 --> 02:55:41,320 Viscount, which is his sister, Dame Marie, a very happy one 3035 02:55:42,040 --> 02:55:45,940 that's she celebrated yesterday. Hans is celebrating on the 17th, 3036 02:55:45,940 --> 02:55:50,260 sure, not sure himself, also on the 17th. Dame Jen says Happy 3037 02:55:50,260 --> 02:55:54,340 Birthday to her daughter Sonia, turning 18 on the 18th, and her 3038 02:55:54,340 --> 02:55:58,840 husband Joe turns 51 on September 20. All Virgos in the 3039 02:55:58,840 --> 02:56:01,320 family. Happy Birthday to everybody here at the best 3040 02:56:02,520 --> 02:56:02,940 podcast 3041 02:56:12,120 --> 02:56:16,200 in the universe, and coming in real big with a whole bunch of 3042 02:56:16,200 --> 02:56:19,920 threes today, sir, not sure. Baron of the tri lakes now 3043 02:56:19,920 --> 02:56:24,380 become sir. Not sure vi count of the tribe tri lakes. And we 3044 02:56:24,380 --> 02:56:27,500 thank him very much for his incredibly generous donation. 3045 02:56:27,920 --> 02:56:31,940 Follow his example. Be like Sir, not sure the Viscount of tri 3046 02:56:31,940 --> 02:56:35,780 lakes. And we really appreciate that you did that for us. We 3047 02:56:35,780 --> 02:56:42,160 have a layaway noting knighting from Hans, who says ITM John and 3048 02:56:42,160 --> 02:56:44,920 I don't let me be clear, I've finally reached knighthood with 3049 02:56:44,920 --> 02:56:50,320 a $4 weekly donation since february 14, 2020, and a one 3050 02:56:50,320 --> 02:56:56,020 time donation of 5333, my dream of joining the roundtable has 3051 02:56:56,020 --> 02:56:59,920 arrived. Living in New York City is sometimes like participating 3052 02:56:59,920 --> 02:57:02,820 in absurdist theater, but it's the business I've chosen 3053 02:57:03,060 --> 02:57:06,420 specifically. My business is that of a performing musician. 3054 02:57:07,200 --> 02:57:11,460 For any jazz fans out there, I'll shamelessly plug my 3055 02:57:11,460 --> 02:57:16,800 website, Hans lukes.com that's H, A, N, S, l, U, C, H, s. Take 3056 02:57:16,800 --> 02:57:19,500 a look at that right now. Hans lukes.com where you can check 3057 02:57:19,500 --> 02:57:21,500 out my music, if you like. Oh, you should get it on 3058 02:57:21,500 --> 02:57:24,620 wavelake.com Get it on value for value. Thanks so much to John 3059 02:57:24,620 --> 02:57:27,440 and Adam and the rest of the no agenda community for producing 3060 02:57:27,440 --> 02:57:30,140 the best podcast in the universe. May you never find an 3061 02:57:30,140 --> 02:57:33,500 exit strategy. Oh yes. I'd like to be knighted, Sir Hans, Knight 3062 02:57:33,500 --> 02:57:36,560 of the West Side Highway. I'd love for some enchiladas, a mole 3063 02:57:36,560 --> 02:57:40,660 poblano and a modelo negra et modela. Do I pronounce that 3064 02:57:40,660 --> 02:57:45,280 right? Model Modelo, Modelo, modelo modelo Negro at the round 3065 02:57:45,280 --> 02:57:48,220 table. It is ordered. There's a lot of good things at the round 3066 02:57:48,220 --> 02:57:53,440 table. And thank you very much for see it works, even the 3067 02:57:53,440 --> 02:57:57,280 layaway nights $4 a week for four years. And he's here at the 3068 02:57:57,280 --> 02:58:00,720 round table. He's gonna get one of those swanky rings. So why 3069 02:58:00,720 --> 02:58:01,860 don't we get 3070 02:58:02,340 --> 02:58:04,920 John C Dvorak: out? Don't forget, Kurt. I don't have Kurt. 3071 02:58:05,460 --> 02:58:07,020 It's right under this other note. 3072 02:58:07,260 --> 02:58:11,460 Adam Curry: I do not have it. I don't have Kurt. Oh, 3073 02:58:11,520 --> 02:58:14,340 John C Dvorak: do you have Yeah, I got Curtis right here. Oh, can 3074 02:58:14,340 --> 02:58:17,400 you read that? Kurt? Patrick, he says, Dear John and Adam, I've 3075 02:58:17,460 --> 02:58:20,480 been contributing $50 a month in my layaway night pun since 3076 02:58:20,480 --> 02:58:24,140 November, my 20th payment was made on June 2, and I've yet to 3077 02:58:24,140 --> 02:58:28,400 be knighted. Please refer to me as sir. Say it wrong of ni 3078 02:58:28,400 --> 02:58:32,960 naimo. Naimo, I have a scotch and scallops at the round table. 3079 02:58:32,960 --> 02:58:35,240 That's what he wants. Scotch and scallops 3080 02:58:35,300 --> 02:58:38,660 Adam Curry: right on time. Okay, anything else? 3081 02:58:39,200 --> 02:58:40,400 John C Dvorak: No, that's the end of it. Oh, 3082 02:58:40,400 --> 02:58:42,700 Adam Curry: great. I somehow I missed that. Must have not seen 3083 02:58:42,700 --> 02:58:45,400 that in the email. Well, good. That's why there's two of us. 3084 02:58:45,820 --> 02:58:48,520 Thank you very much. Layaway knights, we are now going to 3085 02:58:48,520 --> 02:58:51,940 bring you into that exclusive cub. Here is a blade. We got 3086 02:58:51,940 --> 02:58:55,000 lots of people right here. That's beautiful, all right? Up 3087 02:58:55,000 --> 02:58:59,560 on the round table here, I mean, up on the podium. We welcome 3088 02:59:00,160 --> 02:59:05,400 Janet Webb, we welcome Sonya Hans, Kirkpatrick, Ryan diazio 3089 02:59:05,400 --> 02:59:10,020 And ladies and gentlemen, I am very proud to pronounce the KV 3090 02:59:10,020 --> 02:59:16,200 as Dame Janet of TP Wyoming, Dame Sonia Sir Hans, Knight of 3091 02:59:16,200 --> 02:59:19,260 the West Side Highway, sir say it wrong of the Nymo sir. Ryan 3092 02:59:19,260 --> 02:59:23,060 dizzio, knight who couldn't give a single duck for you? We have 3093 02:59:23,060 --> 02:59:25,400 hookers and blow rent poison, Chardonnay, spaghetti and 3094 02:59:25,400 --> 02:59:29,300 carbonara and a bottle of 2016 Brunello Chilean sea bass and a 3095 02:59:29,300 --> 02:59:33,440 2121 Gabe degave Cortis Maryland, steam shrimp and 3096 02:59:33,440 --> 02:59:37,040 lobster tail, enchiladas and mole pobano and modelo Negro and 3097 02:59:37,220 --> 02:59:40,220 scotch and scallops. And can I just please fit the mutton and 3098 02:59:40,220 --> 02:59:42,940 meat in there? There's a lot of the Round Table. I don't think 3099 02:59:42,940 --> 02:59:45,520 we've ever had a feast like this. Congratulations to the 3100 02:59:45,520 --> 02:59:49,360 five of you. Go over to no agenda rings.com. You can see 3101 02:59:49,360 --> 02:59:52,600 the handsome and beautiful night and Dame ring that we have on 3102 02:59:52,600 --> 02:59:55,600 display there. It's a signet ring. So not only do you get 3103 02:59:55,600 --> 02:59:59,200 this ring sized to your finger, there's a handy ring sizing 3104 02:59:59,200 --> 03:00:01,920 guide there. So. Send that to us with an address. It comes with 3105 03:00:01,920 --> 03:00:05,160 wax to seal your important correspondence, and, as always, 3106 03:00:05,160 --> 03:00:08,580 a certificate of authenticity. A great day for the show, when we 3107 03:00:08,580 --> 03:00:11,100 can welcome so many Knights and Dames to the round table. 3108 03:00:11,100 --> 03:00:12,060 Congratulations. 3109 03:00:19,860 --> 03:00:24,260 Yeah, yeah. I'm excited about that October 18 meetup in 3110 03:00:24,260 --> 03:00:26,780 Fredericksburg. We've never had a Fredericksburg meetup. It'll 3111 03:00:26,780 --> 03:00:29,900 be a home game. Home Game. Very excited. People have already 3112 03:00:29,900 --> 03:00:34,040 apparently called over to the full moon in and they're coming 3113 03:00:34,040 --> 03:00:37,520 from Pennsylvania, of course, lots of people coming from 3114 03:00:37,520 --> 03:00:40,840 Austin, but they're already calling and checking and I think 3115 03:00:40,960 --> 03:00:43,600 they may have an in there. I think you could even stay there. 3116 03:00:43,600 --> 03:00:47,380 So curry and the keeper will be there in the house. It'll be 3117 03:00:47,380 --> 03:00:50,860 exciting. Couple of meetup reports. Here's a where we have 3118 03:00:50,860 --> 03:00:54,040 three of them. First one from Sonoma, the Wino country, the 3119 03:00:54,040 --> 03:00:55,540 Wino country meet up. This 3120 03:00:55,540 --> 03:00:58,240 Unknown: is Brian from work. We're here at the Sonoma County 3121 03:00:58,240 --> 03:01:02,880 Wino country meet up here at Old Kaz beer. Everyone knows it 3122 03:01:02,880 --> 03:01:05,880 takes a lot of beer to make good wine, and so that's why we're 3123 03:01:05,880 --> 03:01:07,800 trying all that beer. This is Sir Rick 3124 03:01:07,800 --> 03:01:10,920 Halston, crazy Steve the second, and after this party, we're all 3125 03:01:10,920 --> 03:01:14,280 going back to my house for a Haitian barbecue 3126 03:01:14,520 --> 03:01:20,820 wannabe gonna be Dame Linda of the Shire. No agenda meet ups. 3127 03:01:20,820 --> 03:01:23,900 Makes life fun again. Captain 3128 03:01:23,900 --> 03:01:27,860 Luke loving my local brew pub. Hey, this is Jason. First time, 3129 03:01:28,040 --> 03:01:31,400 long time listener, and I check with the city manager here in 3130 03:01:31,400 --> 03:01:34,280 rohner Park, and there's no cats on the menu. This 3131 03:01:34,340 --> 03:01:37,580 dude named Ben, named Ben Duke of San Francisco. I've 3132 03:01:37,580 --> 03:01:43,060 escaped the fog today for this lovely of low facts, no agenda, 3133 03:01:43,060 --> 03:01:43,660 meetups, 3134 03:01:43,900 --> 03:01:49,360 golf winch from Rohnert Park California, changing Harris for 3135 03:01:49,360 --> 03:01:53,680 Biden. It's kind of like crap in your pants and then changing 3136 03:01:53,680 --> 03:01:56,680 your shirt. Connection is protection. I'm 3137 03:01:56,680 --> 03:01:59,140 Sean, longtime listener, June, 3138 03:02:01,420 --> 03:02:04,140 Adam Curry: and we have two reports from Indiana, Fort 3139 03:02:04,140 --> 03:02:05,040 Wayne, first, 3140 03:02:05,400 --> 03:02:07,860 Unknown: Adam and John. This is Shannon helping host in Fort 3141 03:02:07,860 --> 03:02:11,460 Wayne. We had a great turnout. We did not sing karaoke, and my 3142 03:02:11,460 --> 03:02:13,020 kale salad tasted like crap. 3143 03:02:14,700 --> 03:02:16,620 This is Mike from Fort Wayne in the morning. 3144 03:02:17,820 --> 03:02:20,640 This is Ryan from St Joe's my first meetup. This is great 3145 03:02:20,640 --> 03:02:22,880 time. Nice to meet Shannon and Mike. Hope we have a better 3146 03:02:22,880 --> 03:02:25,460 turnout next time, get to meet more lovely people in this crazy 3147 03:02:25,460 --> 03:02:26,840 area in the morning. This 3148 03:02:26,840 --> 03:02:29,660 is Haley, great people in the morning. All 3149 03:02:29,660 --> 03:02:31,280 Adam Curry: right, in the morning to all of you. And then 3150 03:02:31,280 --> 03:02:35,240 the final report comes from our big group there in Greenwood, 3151 03:02:35,480 --> 03:02:38,660 the indie meetup. Always a lot of people, probably about 100 3152 03:02:39,080 --> 03:02:39,260 This 3153 03:02:39,260 --> 03:02:42,700 Unknown: is day Maria and Sir Mark, a wonderful day here in 3154 03:02:42,700 --> 03:02:44,140 needy to have in your Meetup. And 3155 03:02:44,140 --> 03:02:47,440 it's so nice out here, except it might be getting a little warmer 3156 03:02:47,440 --> 03:02:47,800 due 3157 03:02:47,860 --> 03:02:49,120 to climate change. Hey, this 3158 03:02:49,120 --> 03:02:51,940 is Emily the Fed, not a fed and hot take. I 3159 03:02:52,180 --> 03:02:54,580 just don't like Kamala Harris. Please don't vote for her. 3160 03:02:54,580 --> 03:02:58,000 Y'all, oh, Emily, was that really necessary? Risky here in 3161 03:02:58,000 --> 03:02:59,200 the morning? Hey, it's 3162 03:02:59,200 --> 03:03:02,820 Annette Miller. I'm so excited. I won the cash today. It's only 3163 03:03:02,820 --> 03:03:06,480 my second donation, though, but I'm not a douchebag. I buy at 3164 03:03:06,480 --> 03:03:09,780 least 20 bucks worth of raffle tickets every time I go to a 3165 03:03:09,780 --> 03:03:13,980 meetup, and somebody else gets the donation someday, a dame in 3166 03:03:13,980 --> 03:03:14,100 the 3167 03:03:14,100 --> 03:03:18,060 morning, John and Adam. This is Nick. I survived the fever and 3168 03:03:18,060 --> 03:03:21,620 colts traffic. Adam, the fever and Colts are sports teams. 3169 03:03:22,700 --> 03:03:26,480 What a wonderful meet up today. I think everyone here is my 3170 03:03:26,480 --> 03:03:29,120 friend. If I have anything to say about it, 3171 03:03:29,840 --> 03:03:30,740 in the morning, this 3172 03:03:30,740 --> 03:03:34,400 is Kyra from Carmel. Just want to thank all of Joe agenda 3173 03:03:34,400 --> 03:03:38,240 nation for getting out that vote. Don't forget to vote. AC, 3174 03:03:38,240 --> 03:03:44,260 JD, in the morning, with AI self hypnosis. Mud club. Tom not from 3175 03:03:44,260 --> 03:03:47,560 Carmel. This is Archduke Quinn from the Zionsville Highlands. 3176 03:03:47,560 --> 03:03:50,200 I do believe 100% Google Gaga 3177 03:03:50,200 --> 03:03:52,660 in the morning. Adam and John. This is Shannon visiting from 3178 03:03:52,660 --> 03:03:55,900 Fort. Wayne. These new cough lozenges from ISIS, our great 3179 03:03:55,900 --> 03:03:57,700 Hezbollah in the morning. 3180 03:03:57,700 --> 03:04:00,480 Dave Trinity, having a great time in Indy, as always. Thank 3181 03:04:00,480 --> 03:04:01,320 you for your courage 3182 03:04:01,380 --> 03:04:05,280 in the morning, John and Amster PBR street gang, Adam, please 3183 03:04:05,280 --> 03:04:10,260 step stop and steep Yeah, stop, yes. Stop stepping all over the 3184 03:04:10,260 --> 03:04:10,980 bat. Lady, Hi, 3185 03:04:10,980 --> 03:04:12,060 I'm Lindsay. 3186 03:04:12,060 --> 03:04:16,200 I am a server at prodigy burger. I work today and serve for the 3187 03:04:16,200 --> 03:04:19,980 no agenda group. They're a great group. I'm kind of interested to 3188 03:04:19,980 --> 03:04:21,320 listen to the podcast. Yeah. 3189 03:04:27,200 --> 03:04:29,960 Adam Curry: You know, when the proverbial shit hits the fan, I 3190 03:04:29,960 --> 03:04:33,560 want to be an indie. That's where you got some protection, 3191 03:04:33,560 --> 03:04:36,080 because that's the connection that no agenda. Meet up to bring 3192 03:04:36,080 --> 03:04:39,620 you. You should try one. It's like, it's like, Pringles. You 3193 03:04:39,620 --> 03:04:41,920 can't stop you'll keep wanting to go on. You'll meet new 3194 03:04:41,920 --> 03:04:44,560 friends, children from other lands. It's going to be great, 3195 03:04:44,560 --> 03:04:47,980 particularly today we have the seafood in Sangria meet up. You 3196 03:04:48,460 --> 03:04:52,540 probably are already there. It's at Harry's seafood Bar and Grill 3197 03:04:52,540 --> 03:04:56,140 in St Augustine, Florida. The two hot Tucson meetup will kick 3198 03:04:56,140 --> 03:04:59,920 off at four o'clock at Canyon's crown in Tucson, Arizona. The. 3199 03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:03,540 In September, meet up 630 this evening. Oh, I'm sorry, Thursday 3200 03:05:03,720 --> 03:05:07,140 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado, and also on 3201 03:05:07,140 --> 03:05:10,620 Thursday, Charlotte's thirsty Third Thursday monthly meet up 3202 03:05:10,620 --> 03:05:13,860 seven o'clock at edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. So 3203 03:05:13,860 --> 03:05:17,340 many meetups are now being like it's meetup season for some 3204 03:05:17,340 --> 03:05:21,800 reason, all over the world, from the Netherlands to Scandinavia, 3205 03:05:21,800 --> 03:05:26,000 to Down Under, to well all over the states, here in America. And 3206 03:05:26,000 --> 03:05:29,420 of course, one more plug for that October 18 Fredericksburg, 3207 03:05:29,420 --> 03:05:32,360 Texas meetup. Looking forward to see y'all there. Go to no agenda 3208 03:05:32,360 --> 03:05:35,120 meetups.com. If you can't find one on the calendar near you, 3209 03:05:35,120 --> 03:05:38,780 start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. Sometimes 3210 03:05:38,840 --> 03:05:44,320 Unknown: you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. 3211 03:05:48,220 --> 03:05:48,760 It's like 3212 03:05:53,800 --> 03:05:55,060 a 3213 03:05:59,860 --> 03:06:03,060 Adam Curry: party. How many, how many ISOs Do you have? 3214 03:06:03,480 --> 03:06:04,140 John C Dvorak: None? You 3215 03:06:04,140 --> 03:06:07,560 Adam Curry: got none. Yeah, well, what are you phoning it in 3216 03:06:07,560 --> 03:06:08,100 today, 3217 03:06:08,580 --> 03:06:09,660 John C Dvorak: I forgot. 3218 03:06:10,920 --> 03:06:13,260 Adam Curry: How could you forget? 3219 03:06:13,680 --> 03:06:14,340 John C Dvorak: I did, 3220 03:06:15,840 --> 03:06:16,560 Unknown: all right. 3221 03:06:18,240 --> 03:06:22,280 Adam Curry: Well, I have, I luckily, I'm over isoed, yeah, 3222 03:06:22,580 --> 03:06:24,380 John C Dvorak: there was a sense. I had a sense I could 3223 03:06:24,380 --> 03:06:26,600 feel it. I could feel it. Luke, feel it. 3224 03:06:27,500 --> 03:06:32,000 Adam Curry: Okay, Luke, here we go, ghetto b word there's one. 3225 03:06:32,600 --> 03:06:33,980 No, this is 3226 03:06:33,980 --> 03:06:36,200 Unknown: exciting. I like that. 3227 03:06:36,920 --> 03:06:38,780 I do believe it's possible. 3228 03:06:39,380 --> 03:06:41,740 John C Dvorak: No, I want to thank you for your courage. 3229 03:06:42,820 --> 03:06:47,920 Adam Curry: And the final one, preposterous and weird. Hmm. No, 3230 03:06:48,040 --> 03:06:49,300 no, you like the hill dog? 3231 03:06:49,420 --> 03:06:51,880 Unknown: This is exciting. Yeah. 3232 03:06:52,960 --> 03:06:55,000 Adam Curry: All right, Hill dog on deck. And now, ladies and 3233 03:06:55,000 --> 03:06:57,280 gentlemen, it's time for your favorite part of the show, 3234 03:06:57,280 --> 03:06:59,860 John's Tip of the Day. Green bass for you 3235 03:07:02,440 --> 03:07:04,680 Unknown: and me. Just I 3236 03:07:07,860 --> 03:07:10,620 Adam Curry: don't everyone's excited to find out what the 3237 03:07:10,620 --> 03:07:14,760 last tip of the day was. Great. We have increased Costco stock 3238 03:07:15,000 --> 03:07:20,540 by Costco is is loving us. What do you have for us? John, 3239 03:07:20,660 --> 03:07:22,940 John C Dvorak: oh, this is gonna this time, it's gonna be Amazon. 3240 03:07:24,260 --> 03:07:27,620 You know how we used to drink tea when you lived in England, 3241 03:07:27,620 --> 03:07:32,120 but you don't do it anymore. I'm still a fan of PG Tips, which is 3242 03:07:32,120 --> 03:07:35,360 the English everyday drinking tea, yeah, but I drink a lot of 3243 03:07:35,360 --> 03:07:38,780 green tea, but green tea, depending on where you get, is 3244 03:07:38,840 --> 03:07:45,460 really expensive, and I have found a kind of a PG, tips of 3245 03:07:45,460 --> 03:07:49,120 green tea, besides things like gunpowder, this is just a very 3246 03:07:49,120 --> 03:07:54,280 specific green tea. You get a pound of it for 13 bucks. And 3247 03:07:55,180 --> 03:08:00,120 it's like, you use a for a big pot, you use like, Don't you 3248 03:08:00,120 --> 03:08:05,220 have to be careful to use, like a kind of a level teaspoon, 3249 03:08:05,220 --> 03:08:09,540 maybe because this stuff just blows up into all the full 3250 03:08:09,540 --> 03:08:13,800 leaves. And it's a tea that sells for 13 bucks, for 16 3251 03:08:13,800 --> 03:08:20,660 ounces. It's called Tian hushan T I A n, H, U, S, H, A N. It's 3252 03:08:20,780 --> 03:08:27,500 also called Yin Hao, y, I N, H, A, W, right from China. It is, I 3253 03:08:27,500 --> 03:08:31,400 just drink to stuff like crazy. It is a, it is an outstanding 3254 03:08:31,640 --> 03:08:34,400 just drink, drink, drink product, and you do it, and you 3255 03:08:34,400 --> 03:08:38,420 also double pour into it. And the second pouring, which is the 3256 03:08:38,420 --> 03:08:40,780 Chinese do all the time. Americans don't do it. In other 3257 03:08:40,780 --> 03:08:45,280 words, you make your tea, and then you pour off the finished 3258 03:08:45,340 --> 03:08:49,180 green tea, and then you pour another batch of water into the 3259 03:08:49,180 --> 03:08:53,440 used leaves. And in China, they think this is the better part of 3260 03:08:53,440 --> 03:08:57,880 the of the of the batches, the second pouring is better we 3261 03:08:57,880 --> 03:09:00,960 need. In this case, I don't even see the difference. It's almost 3262 03:09:00,960 --> 03:09:03,600 like at the same you just doubled the amount. It's, I 3263 03:09:03,600 --> 03:09:06,060 don't know how long it's going to take to get through the 16 3264 03:09:06,060 --> 03:09:07,020 ounces. Is this 3265 03:09:07,080 --> 03:09:10,140 Adam Curry: might take years a small batch. The this, this 3266 03:09:10,560 --> 03:09:11,160 producer, this 3267 03:09:11,160 --> 03:09:13,140 John C Dvorak: all in Chinese. I have no idea if it's small 3268 03:09:13,140 --> 03:09:13,560 batch. 3269 03:09:13,560 --> 03:09:16,560 Adam Curry: I think, you know, you need to do a web page with 3270 03:09:16,560 --> 03:09:18,960 these tips of the day. So people kind of think we're going to 3271 03:09:18,960 --> 03:09:21,980 have to do that. Yeah, get Jay on the case. She's good at that. 3272 03:09:22,280 --> 03:09:22,880 Well, actually, we 3273 03:09:22,880 --> 03:09:24,500 John C Dvorak: may have some volunteers out there. I was 3274 03:09:24,500 --> 03:09:27,920 asking for some volunteers for a couple of things, and maybe 3275 03:09:27,920 --> 03:09:30,980 there's somebody out there that can do some coding, or somebody 3276 03:09:30,980 --> 03:09:34,220 produce I like somebody can just make a list of the tips that 3277 03:09:34,220 --> 03:09:38,960 we've done, some summaries that would be good. What I would I 3278 03:09:38,960 --> 03:09:42,340 need somebody could do a PHP server for me, so I can do my 3279 03:09:42,340 --> 03:09:45,160 own mailing product, own mailing list. Oh, this 3280 03:09:45,160 --> 03:09:50,500 Adam Curry: is a very bad idea. What that is a very bad idea to 3281 03:09:50,500 --> 03:09:54,520 do your own mailing list, server, very, very bad idea. 3282 03:09:54,760 --> 03:09:57,040 John C Dvorak: There is a good product out there that has 3283 03:09:57,040 --> 03:09:58,960 everything but the server product is 3284 03:09:58,960 --> 03:10:01,620 Adam Curry: not the problem. Them, it's the white listing 3285 03:10:02,040 --> 03:10:04,980 these companies that you use, and I would actually say 3286 03:10:04,980 --> 03:10:08,700 substack is probably better these days, they have been 3287 03:10:08,700 --> 03:10:14,040 whitelisted with all of the big email providers, mainly Gmail, 3288 03:10:14,280 --> 03:10:17,700 and they have to pay a VIG we've been through. I understand that, 3289 03:10:17,700 --> 03:10:20,720 yes. So if you, if you just show up as no agenda@dvorak.org 3290 03:10:21,740 --> 03:10:24,020 you're going to get blocked everywhere because you're not 3291 03:10:24,020 --> 03:10:29,240 paying the fee. So I recommend against this. Okay, 3292 03:10:29,240 --> 03:10:33,080 John C Dvorak: well, I'd still like to experiment. No, it's Oh, 3293 03:10:33,260 --> 03:10:36,380 Adam Curry: rough times ahead. Tears will come. Tears will 3294 03:10:36,380 --> 03:10:38,660 come. That's it, ladies and gentlemen. Are you looking 3295 03:10:38,660 --> 03:10:42,580 Unknown: for good advice? Perhaps something practical or 3296 03:10:42,580 --> 03:10:46,900 something you really need try the new agenda. Tip of the day, 3297 03:10:47,440 --> 03:10:51,160 professional quality tips from the best podcast in the 3298 03:10:51,160 --> 03:10:51,820 universe. 3299 03:10:53,380 --> 03:10:58,300 Adam Curry: There it is no lie. Professional quality tips from 3300 03:10:58,300 --> 03:11:01,620 the best podcast in the universe. You heard it here. I 3301 03:11:01,620 --> 03:11:05,280 wish we had a our tea supplier in Portugal. He passed away. 3302 03:11:05,280 --> 03:11:07,200 Unfortunately, I'd love it. Yeah, 3303 03:11:07,380 --> 03:11:09,480 John C Dvorak: no, that's too bad. Yeah, he didn't. He was 3304 03:11:09,480 --> 03:11:12,840 really into a permitted tease. He didn't have too much green 3305 03:11:12,840 --> 03:11:13,140 tea. 3306 03:11:14,160 --> 03:11:17,520 Adam Curry: Well, he had no agenda teas, which was just kind 3307 03:11:17,520 --> 03:11:20,480 of cool. Just love that, love that idea. We still have some of 3308 03:11:20,480 --> 03:11:24,440 that. We've got our coffee guy. Eli. Just need a tea guy. Maybe 3309 03:11:24,500 --> 03:11:29,120 Eli can expand on the way. We've got end of show mixes from David 3310 03:11:29,120 --> 03:11:33,140 kekta Sir TJ, the raffle and the clip custodian himself. Neil 3311 03:11:33,140 --> 03:11:36,560 Jones checks in. That's nice. Always love it when he has a mix 3312 03:11:36,560 --> 03:11:40,520 and coming up next on the stream, no agenda stream.com, 3313 03:11:41,120 --> 03:11:45,100 trollroom.io, and your modern podcast app is the podcasting 3314 03:11:45,100 --> 03:11:48,760 2.0 board meeting for this week titled helpful little wizard. So 3315 03:11:48,760 --> 03:11:50,680 you can stay tuned for that, learn about the latest 3316 03:11:50,680 --> 03:11:53,380 podcasting coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill 3317 03:11:53,380 --> 03:11:56,320 Country, home of the meetup on October 18, Fredericksburg, 3318 03:11:56,320 --> 03:12:00,900 Texas, FEMA Region number 16 The Morning everybody. I'm Adam 3319 03:12:00,900 --> 03:12:01,380 curry, 3320 03:12:01,380 --> 03:12:03,300 John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's 3321 03:12:03,300 --> 03:12:05,220 foggy, I'm John C Dvorak. We 3322 03:12:05,220 --> 03:12:08,400 Adam Curry: return on Thursday with another deconstruction of 3323 03:12:08,400 --> 03:12:11,460 your media. Meet us there and remember us at no agenda. 3324 03:12:11,460 --> 03:12:16,200 Donations.com, until then, adios, mofos, a hooey, hooey and 3325 03:12:16,200 --> 03:12:18,660 such. They're eating the dogs. We 3326 03:12:18,660 --> 03:12:21,080 Unknown: know that the companies and we're seeing some of the 3327 03:12:21,080 --> 03:12:23,000 comments from Elon Musk overnight, so they see 3328 03:12:23,000 --> 03:12:26,300 themselves above the law, and the Australian law here should 3329 03:12:26,300 --> 03:12:30,020 apply equally in the real world as it does online. As Phil was 3330 03:12:30,020 --> 03:12:33,680 pointing out before, you would be sued for defamation, and you 3331 03:12:33,680 --> 03:12:37,100 would be taken before the courts under various acts for 3332 03:12:37,100 --> 03:12:40,400 publishing some of that which freely flows on the internet. 3333 03:12:40,400 --> 03:12:43,540 And there's an age verification regime, which has been 3334 03:12:43,540 --> 03:12:46,600 recommended by the Safety Commissioner from 2023 we think 3335 03:12:46,600 --> 03:12:48,820 that's something the government should pick up. Well, this is a 3336 03:12:48,820 --> 03:12:51,520 very dark day in Australia's history, ladies and gentlemen, 3337 03:12:51,520 --> 03:12:54,340 because this week respected work and other matters. Amendment 3338 03:12:54,340 --> 03:12:57,400 Bill 2024 was passed in Queensland Parliament. What does 3339 03:12:57,400 --> 03:12:59,440 this mean for you? Well, from now on, we're going to have the 3340 03:12:59,440 --> 03:13:02,460 police our thoughts and our speech very carefully on social 3341 03:13:02,460 --> 03:13:06,180 media. Here's why, any post made on social media now is deemed by 3342 03:13:06,180 --> 03:13:09,420 this bill to be a public act. And any public act found 3343 03:13:09,420 --> 03:13:12,840 offensive by a reasonable person of the minority community that 3344 03:13:12,840 --> 03:13:16,140 it describes is then chargeable under Section 52 A of the 3345 03:13:16,140 --> 03:13:19,140 Criminal Code, and these charges carry a maximum sentence of 3346 03:13:19,140 --> 03:13:20,780 three years in jail time. These 3347 03:13:20,780 --> 03:13:24,380 are truly unprecedented times. 25 years in the parliament, I've 3348 03:13:24,380 --> 03:13:27,500 never seen legislation like him. This is not the country I grew 3349 03:13:27,500 --> 03:13:30,260 up in, and is heading in direction that I fear for future 3350 03:13:30,260 --> 03:13:30,980 generations. 3351 03:13:32,000 --> 03:13:38,720 Kamala DeVille. Kamala Deville, if her cackle, don't scare you. 3352 03:13:38,900 --> 03:13:45,580 Her policies, well, your unborn child, she would gladly kill 3353 03:13:45,640 --> 03:13:49,300 Kamala. Is horrible. Still, 3354 03:13:51,400 --> 03:13:54,400 Adam Curry: this is rarely brought up, and it's true, and 3355 03:13:54,400 --> 03:13:58,000 these people are demonic in that way. This chick, I'm saying, 3356 03:13:58,000 --> 03:14:02,460 chick, called a DC District of Columbia clinic, and she 3357 03:14:02,460 --> 03:14:03,840 recorded it. I'm 3358 03:14:03,840 --> 03:14:06,720 Unknown: looking to have an abortion. I'm 34 3359 03:14:07,020 --> 03:14:07,860 right now, 3360 03:14:08,280 --> 03:14:09,000 Adam Curry: eight months. An 3361 03:14:09,000 --> 03:14:11,820 Unknown: abortion at any stage is actually much safer than 3362 03:14:11,820 --> 03:14:15,000 delivering a term pregnancy. You do what we call the fetal 3363 03:14:15,000 --> 03:14:18,780 injection. We'll assist you in sort of pushing in the induction 3364 03:14:19,320 --> 03:14:21,380 and then remove all of the product of conception, 3365 03:14:21,680 --> 03:14:24,860 Adam Curry: the product of conception, it is true. Of 3366 03:14:24,860 --> 03:14:28,160 course it's true, but people need to hear that. That's this 3367 03:14:28,160 --> 03:14:30,560 is sickening, but this is 3368 03:14:33,020 --> 03:14:35,600 Unknown: what they have done to our country by allowing these 3369 03:14:35,600 --> 03:14:43,240 millions and millions of people, people can't go out and buy 3370 03:14:43,240 --> 03:14:52,000 cereal or bacon or eggs or anything else. The people of our 3371 03:14:52,000 --> 03:15:00,720 country are absolutely dying. They're eating the dog. People 3372 03:15:00,720 --> 03:15:07,980 that came in, they're eating the cats. My dogs been taken my dogs 3373 03:15:08,040 --> 03:15:16,200 so they've destroyed the economy in Springfield. They're eating 3374 03:15:16,260 --> 03:15:25,580 the pets of the people that live there. You people, millions and 3375 03:15:25,580 --> 03:15:27,860 millions of people, people. 3376 03:15:37,100 --> 03:15:38,000 It's bad, you know? 3377 03:15:55,360 --> 03:15:56,920 This is exciting. You.