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John C Dvorak: It's hot. Adam
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Unknown: John C Dvorak, it's
Thursday,

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Adam Curry: August 29 2024 this
is your award winning give our

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nation media assassination
Episode 1690

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Unknown: This is no agenda, very

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Adam Curry: demure, very
mindful, and broadcasting live

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from the heart of the Texas new
country here in FEMA Region,

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number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry from

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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley, where we're all

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wondering what the hell Kamala
said in the interview that's

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been taped and edited. I'm
Johnson black.

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Adam Curry: You barely made it
through it. It was hard. It was

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hard. When is that? Air Tonight?

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, airs
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be groovy. It'll suck. It'll be
all edited down. And you, CNN, a

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bunch of journalists are going
along with the program. Oh,

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whatever you say, we'll cut this
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take the this and that. It's
gonna be

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Adam Curry: who just who says
those who says they won't

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sabotage her. You never know. We
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John C Dvorak: Do I agree with
that theory? Yeah, anything. In

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fact, the latest thing with
Kennedy, I do have a Kennedy, a

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quick, quick Kennedy thing that
nobody seems to want to point

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out. And I'm going to point it
out on on Jen Psaki show, Carrie

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Kennedy came out to bitch about
her brother. Yeah, she

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Adam Curry: has the same voice.

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John C Dvorak: Well, that was
the joke I was,

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Adam Curry: yeah, I'm sorry. I'm
sorry. You said. No one wants to

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talk about it. Everyone

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John C Dvorak: was a hint.

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Adam Curry: Is that? Now, is
that genetic? I thought that he

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had some kind of,

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John C Dvorak: well, the Yeah,
it's a just, it's called a

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spasmodic dysphoria or something
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it's play Kerry Kennedy. First I
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understand a word of her. By the
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Unknown: I completely out and
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from from Robert Kennedy Jr, and
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effort to desecrate and trampled
set by her tonight, my father's

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memory.

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Adam Curry: We shouldn't be
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John C Dvorak: She can't help
it. No, I'm not laughing at the

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fact that we're laughing that
she can't get what she's trying

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to get out. She couldn't say it.
But nobody has pointed this out,

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except you just now, oh, she has
this same disorder and and it, I

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looked into it, so I read about
it. Dr Dvorak is all kinds of

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different things. One out of
50,000 people have

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Adam Curry: it. How about this?
Is it caused by inbreeding? No,

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John C Dvorak: that's the thing.
There is no evidence that

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there's anything genetic about
it. So wow, what are the odds

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that somebody else in the family
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genetic, and they've got it all
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Adam Curry: stay away from Miami
sport. I guess there's something

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in the water up there that's

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John C Dvorak: screwy about the
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ailment. But anyway, but back to
the other thesis. What so start

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looking into it. I think it was
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think maybe Daily Caller that
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Cheryl Hines that told Bobby to
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Adam Curry: Yeah, the daily
call. Well, try. He also talked

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about it on Tucker's interview,
which was a good interview,

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John C Dvorak: yeah,

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Adam Curry: did you see it? Did
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John C Dvorak: No, I did not.
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and since she's she's already
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joined forces with Trump. What's
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Adam Curry: What do you mean?
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John C Dvorak: first. She says
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know, he didn't want to talk to
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her. She's no, no, no, go ahead
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Trump, and they make a deal. And
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Adam Curry: this position, this
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dinner last night with some of
the some of our friends who who

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now actually think that the part
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yeah, but, but they said the
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we sit down. We haven't seen him
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there. He's a plant. He's a
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there to ruin everything, as is
Tulsi. So, which is what you're

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John C Dvorak: not, but he's not
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I've, we've felt that he, she
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it's a daughter in law. I think
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah,

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John C Dvorak: Tulsi is, I think
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some group, which is a
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Adam Curry: let's recall that
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Not the CIA. And so we have the
uncle Don old school CIA, and

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then we have the woke nut job
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deeper. I mean, much much
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been reflecting on this, and you
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no agenda. But at this point,
all the wickedness and these,

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these nasty, horrible people,
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narcissistic psychopaths. They
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psychopaths, and they've turned
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I mean, the whole everything
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all the way down the line. So
my, my other stepdaughter, is

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coming in for my birthday, which
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from Chicago. And so she texts
Tina this morning. Says, Oh man,

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the TSA is now looking you know,
you have, you get that picture

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taken in the TSA line. Now you
can opt out of it, but of

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course, most people don't, and
if you're if the picture that

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they take of you does not match
the picture on your ID, you're

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taken out of the line. This is
new, and people are freaking out

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about it, even though it's
supposed to be a test, and you

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don't have to do it. And this is
and by the way, I hate the game,

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not the players, because we have
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sure they're just as annoyed by
this. TSA just tweeted the other

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day randomly because it hasn't
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months. The tweet reads, peanut
butter is a liquid. We said what

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John C Dvorak: was a whole
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show about this

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Adam Curry: screw, these people
Screw this, all of it, but

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there's a liquid screw, the
higher rationale, yeah, okay,

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yeah. I mean, yes, I've seen the
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this. Beside the point. This
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of nut jobs had some things that
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John C Dvorak: plane, yeah,
well, that's like the shoe

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bomber, same thing, yeah, from

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Adam Curry: firecrackers in his
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got people fighting on
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and punches beating on each
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this up. And I, I choose to
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believe that he is 70 years old.
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save some kids. And I'm all for
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going to be 70, there's going to
be no one left for Social

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Security and Medicare is going
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working that will have no more
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anymore, but I care. I don't
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John C Dvorak: anymore. Close
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Unknown: Close the hatch behind
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John C Dvorak: So the that's
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the two of them coming in, two
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Adam Curry: and at Tulsi, I
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John C Dvorak: I say the two of
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Adam Curry: I said

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John C Dvorak: the two of them
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Kennedy, both with some sort of
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there to keep Trump from doing
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the past, which like hallelujah,
yes, exactly, hiring Your your

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Adam Curry: my buddy. Oh, now
it's my buddy. Okay, oh, Fauci

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John C Dvorak: and people and
people like John Kelly. And I

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was looking into John Kelly,
it's like, Bolton. How about

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Bolton? Oh, Bolton. Late in the
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Bolton came around, you think
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Adam Curry: this whole op, that
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And of course, the media loves
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neck and neck. She's a little
above Trump. We've got a horse

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race. People advertise now. It's
like, oh, okay,

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John C Dvorak: advertise now
spend your money. We don't want

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to see anything left in the
coffers. We're the media,

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Adam Curry: and you can't all of
it. All media is now no good,

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and we'll get to telegram in a
moment. But I need some of your

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historic knowledge for this.
Eric PP, who's one of the

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developers on podcasting 2.0 he
sent me a documentary, and it's

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called, Let me see. It's called
the ball of confusion, and it's

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about the 1968 DNC. And of

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John C Dvorak: course, now
there's a lot of a lot I may

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have seen this documentary Well,
brings about. These

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Adam Curry: are very short
clips, but I just want to get

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your historic knowledge, because
Hubert Humphreys was, of course,

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there at the DNC in. And where's
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Humphreys from Minnesota?
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Hubert Humphrey was talking
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politics of joy. And if ever
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we are the way politics ought to
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happiness, the politics of
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Adam Curry: So very similar. You
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repeating, but rhyming right
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Hampshire. Rockefeller didn't
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running against himself. One of
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accepted fact is that Nixon had
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Vietnam War. That he had uttered
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reporter that Nixon's running
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plan, and the reporter reported
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years, Nixon sought to dispel
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Adam Curry: a lot like Judy
Woodruff saying, oh, Trump told

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Netanyahu to keep it going so
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John C Dvorak: Right? Which he
had to walk back, which he

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Adam Curry: had to walk back.
But then this clip makes it even

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more interesting. In the context
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Unknown: we now know that
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Chennault, who was the chairman
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Nixon to be a back channel to
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encourage them not to
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Paris under the Lyndon Johnson
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would get a better deal with the
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in fact, Richard Nixon played a
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talks in Paris. There's no doubt
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Logan Act. And the Logan Act
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citizens from getting in the way
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It is essentially treason. Now,
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former vice president, was a
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he would have been covered by
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and it's a damn bad mistake.

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what Mrs. Chenault was doing, he
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expose Nixon, but realized that
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that he knew because of illegal
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Adam Curry: I just love this. So
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Adam Curry: Yes, yeah. So you
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wiretapped at Mar a Lago. Judy
Woodruff hears about it, you

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know, she thinks it's from
Axios, because the old bag can't

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remember. Sorry to be ageist
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John C Dvorak: well, they
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and they made a big fuss about
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even though it turned out that
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that they did, but they denied
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Adam Curry: And then this, this
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did seven days before the
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Unknown: I have now ordered that
all air, naval and artillery

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bombardment of North Vietnam
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Adam Curry: Yeah, that would be
perfect for just say, sounds

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like Joe, even you ordered
Israel stop bombing. And my,

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how, think this is the last one.
My, how things have changed

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since the DNC of 1968 when
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reporting on protests and what
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famous clip. I'd forgotten all
about it. This is Dan, rather,

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who was trying to report on
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Unknown: Daley really did have.
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and any delegate who got out of
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he or she was going to dissent,
generally speaking, was either

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Take your hands off of me unless
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Don't push me, please. But don't
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him, even unless you in arrest
me. Wait a minute. Wait a

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minute. Walter, as you can see,
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to be out of bed, but somebody
belt him in his stomach doing

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that. What happened is a Georgia
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Georgia delegate sign on. Was
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tried to talk to him to see why,
who he was, and what the

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situation was, and at that
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well, as you can see, put me on
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we've got a bunch of thugs here.
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Adam Curry: so you know,
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where people hold up aside,
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the mainstream, only someone who
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and because they got the thugs
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control. Shut up, shut up and
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We're all in. It joy. It's joy,
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know,
John chancellor was also beat up

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at the at the who was John
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correspondent. I think he was on
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there were that report of from
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actually doing a real job of it,
as opposed to today, where you

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just have a bunch of, in fact,
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in this convention was bring in
a bunch of influencers, yes,

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yes, crawling with them, yes,

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Adam Curry: yeah. It's, it's
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kept looking for joy. And there
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John C Dvorak: she's on MSNBC.

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Adam Curry: Oh, joy. Joy now
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joy, and this, these things just
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propelled by the Black joy
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and this has resonated deeply
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of political challenges and
racial identity debates. Yes,

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Adam Curry: this is the black
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Unknown: seem to truly focus on
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that is valid, while that is
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to be studied, so does our joy,
highlighting and showcasing our

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ability and our audacity to find
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has been thrown at us, is
something that we should not

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only celebrate but honor.

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Adam Curry: And of course, we
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you and I missed. What is black
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the culture that comes with this
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ability to express yourself
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able to come here is super
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the seniors, for everybody

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in between. We're

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bringing Oakland to the world.
This is what we're like on

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everyday basis. But we want
everybody to see

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the black joy that we have

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we don't spend enough time
celebrating ourselves. We don't

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spend enough time just like
basking in our own glory, if you

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John C Dvorak: So it's all
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basking in our own glory.

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Unknown: It's all subversive.

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John C Dvorak: These people
don't spend enough time. Adam,

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basking glory. No, we

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Adam Curry: should do that more
often on weekends? Oh, no, we

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work on weekends. This is this
whole campaign, the media, the

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entire administration, all of
all of the agencies. I mean, I

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don't know if we can ever, if we
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man, what a bunch of jag offs,
all of them. It's all just

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corrupt and narcissists and
sociopaths, psychopaths and

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sociopaths, they're crazy and
crazy, I tell you,

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John C Dvorak: and it's being
seems to be being. It's

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encouraged by social media.

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Adam Curry: Yes, yes, it is. And

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John C Dvorak: I and I'm part of
it. You are. I mean, I admit to

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it, yeah. I mean, I'll take a
look at these, these tick tock,

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mainly, yes, these psychos that
are on tick tock with their, you

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know, guys that pretend to be
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think they're women or whatever,
and they're all made up and

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they're ugly. It's not like
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very demure. They're not even

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demure, they're psychotic. And
there's something compelling

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about watching a psychotic
person rant about something I

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don't know what it is. It's like
I. Why is this person even

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available to to do this? Is they
should be, literally, it's

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locked up. They should be in an
institution. Well,

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Adam Curry: it's, it's, it's
part of the program, though. I

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mean, the fact that it's all out
there to such a degree, and the

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algos are bringing it to you
clearly, because the only time I

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see any of this stuff is when
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tuned they're fine tuned into
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John C Dvorak: got it, man. Look
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this crazy stuff. He's nuts.
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Adam Curry: completely tuned
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I'm gonna change my thinking

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John C Dvorak: before you
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they're not tuned into me so
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an account. It's people sending
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that, and then once I'm on that,
looking at one psycho, the

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algorithm then gives me another
psycho. Well, I'm just, I'm just

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talking about, but I'm not part
I'm not being targeted. But

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Adam Curry: on X, I think you
are, and you have an account on

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X, your post, you're reposting
this stuff on X, I don't know

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what you're doing on tick tock.
I mean, tick tock. I mean, I

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can't get on to I just, I
refuse, because I know what will

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happen. Oh, this is great.
Sucked in. Get sucked in. It

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gets sucked in. So I think I'm
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my my original thesis on this
telegram thing. And I know you

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have two clips. Let me just do
this. Do this background or see

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if it lines up with you.

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Unknown: Telegram Founder Pavel
Durov has been put under formal

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investigation and released under
judicial supervision of

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allegations his messaging
service is being used for

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illegal activities. Allegations
include that the platform is

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being used for child sexual
abuse, material, drug

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trafficking, fraud and abetting
organized crime transactions.

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motivations were at play.

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It is up to the judiciary and
full independence to enforce the

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law. The arrest of the President
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place as part of an ongoing
judicial investigation. It is in

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no way a political decision. It
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the matter,

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but the Kremlin claims
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detention caused shock
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so media, but it

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seems to me that, well, it would
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that the whole world experienced
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from the actions of
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collective West

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following durovs arrests.
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that it abides by EU laws and
its moderation is within

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industry standards. Jorov is
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to the investigation, so

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Adam Curry: whenever a statement
comes out saying this is not

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political, it's political, but
why? Pavlov is not a politician.

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interview that Mike Benz did
with Tucker, which I which I

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watched yesterday. Are you
familiar with Mike Benz?

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John C Dvorak: We've familiar
with Mike Benz, but I did not

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see this interview. You have a
clip, I don't

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Adam Curry: have a clip, and I
have a question. What does Mike

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bends do for a living? That's my
question, because he seems to be

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everywhere, telling everybody
exactly how the State Department

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works and how the blob works.
But how does he make money? He's

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everywhere, but, you know, he,
does he have a lot of ads? Or,

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you know, does he I just, that's
just the question that no one

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seems to be asking. So you just
asked it. We should find out?

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thinking, and by the way, it's

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also influenced by this email
from one of our producers, who

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talks about the privacy features
of Telegram, which turns out, is

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not as great as I thought it
was. Aha, yeah. So the early I'm

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going to read verbatim here, the
early team, I felt that it was

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always full of holes. But, oh,
it's worse than you think. The

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early team behind the start of
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that's pablo's Brother, I think,
consists of six ACM champions,

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half of them PhDs in math, but
they're not cryptographers. Of

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course, there's only a handful
of really good cryptographers in

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the world, probably instead of
using known standards like PGP

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or GPG that are well tested,
they created their own

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encryption standard. Here we go,
and our boots on the ground.

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Dude named Ben says there are
weak parts in it that will not

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surprise you if some three
letter agency might have

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compromised the telegram
security. Another big red flag

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is that, by default, the
encryption of messages is not

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on. Turning it on is only
possible in a chat to another

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person. You have to you have to
actively select that you want

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this encrypted. So there's no
encryption in channels or

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groups, which is the main use of
telegram. There's no encrypt.

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Impossible in channels or groups
only, the secret chats are

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encrypted. And of course, most
people start, I think they've

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changed it now, but most people
have started their account with

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your own mobile phone number,
which is why you don't which is

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why you don't have a telegram
account, and all of the photos

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and files you share are all
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servers for an unlimited time,
also unencrypted. So this is a

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beautiful system, and I think
it's very possible this is what

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Mike Benz was saying that the
Russians, either they have

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access to the encrypted stuff,
or, you know, they have some

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other access. And this is
hurting the use of telegram by

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Ukrainians, which is, you know,
almost everybody in Ukraine is

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using telegram because telegram
is what you use, or used to use

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when you started some kind of
color revolution. Pay, a couple

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of guys in Germany, we saw that.
But was it the Belarus uprising?

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I think the two guys in Germany
are managing the telegram

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channel well, that's suspicious,
and that this is why they want

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to try and get to Pavel, because
this is one of the last systems

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that the agencies and the State
Department have to control

439
00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:27,140
revolutions and get people all
riled up, not by subverting

440
00:26:27,140 --> 00:26:31,460
their messages necessarily, but
by using it as the main it comes

441
00:26:31,460 --> 00:26:36,620
across as trustworthy. So I
think this is where we need to

442
00:26:36,620 --> 00:26:41,860
have a hard look at Elon Musk,
not Elon himself. I mean, I've

443
00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:45,520
never liked him. You know, he's
like, Oh, freedom, freedom of

444
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,440
speech, freedom of speech. But
he isn't actually running X,

445
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,180
that's Linda yacorino.

446
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,180
John C Dvorak: Well, before you
continue, let's play my two door

447
00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:59,740
off clips. Okay, just about the
arrest. These are generalized.

448
00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:02,820
There's not anything just I just
want to get him out of the way.

449
00:27:03,180 --> 00:27:06,480
Unknown: In France, I'm sorry.
In France, authorities have

450
00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:09,780
issued preliminary charges
against telegram CEO Pavel dura

451
00:27:09,780 --> 00:27:13,380
for allegedly allowing illegal
activities on his social media

452
00:27:13,380 --> 00:27:17,460
platform. He's been released
from custody on bail, but is not

453
00:27:17,460 --> 00:27:21,500
allowed to leave France. Durov
was arrested on Saturday at a

454
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Paris airport as part of an
investigation that opened last

455
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month. Russia, born dorave, is
also a French citizen.

456
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Allegations against him include
allowing his platform to be used

457
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,320
in connection with child sexual
abuse, drug trafficking, fraud

458
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,620
and organized criminal
activities. French prosecutors

459
00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:43,000
also alleged that telegram
refused to share information or

460
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,780
documents with investigators
when required by law. French

461
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,980
media, AFP reports that Durov is
also under investigation for,

462
00:27:50,980 --> 00:27:55,240
quote, serious violence against
one of his children in Paris.

463
00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:56,020
Oh,

464
00:27:57,220 --> 00:27:59,920
Adam Curry: I hadn't heard this
part that's interesting. A

465
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,480
little twist, serious. Oh, so
that so that's the that's the

466
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:09,480
leverage. Pavel, you serious
violence against one of your

467
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kids. Pavel, look at this
picture. Pavel, What's that in

468
00:28:14,220 --> 00:28:17,220
your mouth? Pavel, part two,

469
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,340
Unknown: After durovs arrest,
Telegram issued a statement

470
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saying, quote, It is absurd to
claim that a platform or its

471
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owner are responsible for abuse
of that platform. Elon Musk, the

472
00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:31,940
billionaire owner of x, who has
called himself a free speech

473
00:28:31,940 --> 00:28:35,480
absolutist, has been speaking
out in support of Durov and

474
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,760
posted hashtag free. Pavel,

475
00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:43,600
Adam Curry: yeah, you know. So
it seems to me that a guy whose

476
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,820
main source of income is the US
government could possibly be

477
00:28:48,820 --> 00:28:54,400
compromised to create a great
free speech platform that now

478
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,380
can be used instead of telegram.
And I'm not saying that Elon

479
00:28:59,380 --> 00:29:03,240
himself is behind it, because if
anyone is running that place,

480
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,600
not for advertising success,
because we know that's not

481
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:13,200
working, it's yakarino, who is a
total mainstream Insider. NBC

482
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,380
Universal, started the peacocks,
was part of the peacock

483
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,480
streaming service team Ad
Council. She actually was in the

484
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,160
Trump administration didn't know
this, the President's Council on

485
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,760
sports, fitness and nutrition.
Why? Why?

486
00:29:28,820 --> 00:29:31,460
John C Dvorak: Why I know that
either that's kind of obscure,

487
00:29:31,460 --> 00:29:32,000
and

488
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,800
Adam Curry: this is the best
part. She has a twin sister, the

489
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,100
old twin sister bit now she's
the one that keeps saying,

490
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:43,600
freedom of speech, not freedom
of reach, so maybe she has her

491
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:49,120
fingers on the dial, you know.
And amidst all of this, all of a

492
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,680
sudden we got Zuckerberg going

493
00:29:51,940 --> 00:29:54,280
Unknown: Facebook. CEO Mark
Zuckerberg has acknowledged

494
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,700
being pressured by the Biden
administration to censor content

495
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,300
during the pandemic in a letter
to the House Judiciary. Jury

496
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:02,940
committee, Zuckerberg says
senior administration officials

497
00:30:03,060 --> 00:30:06,420
pushed the company to censor
certain posts about covid on

498
00:30:06,420 --> 00:30:09,240
Facebook and Instagram.
Zuckerberg saying, I feel

499
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,480
strongly that we should not
compromise our content standards

500
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,700
due to pressure from any
administration in either

501
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:17,820
direction, and we're ready to
push back if something like this

502
00:30:17,820 --> 00:30:21,140
happens again. Zuckerberg also
said he regrets hiding content

503
00:30:21,140 --> 00:30:23,900
about Hunter Biden before the
2020 election, including

504
00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:26,960
information about Biden's laptop
after the FBI warned it may have

505
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,640
been Russian disinformation, and

506
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,000
Adam Curry: we just need to play
a nice little supercut reminding

507
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,920
us how the M 5m treated us, the
citizens, their customers, or

508
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,140
really were their product about
the Hunter Biden laptop. Never

509
00:30:41,140 --> 00:30:41,740
forget.

510
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,520
Unknown: Obviously we're not
going with the New York Post

511
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,000
story

512
00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:47,680
right now on Hunter Biden.

513
00:30:47,740 --> 00:30:51,940
This is really one of the
stupidest October surprises I've

514
00:30:51,940 --> 00:30:55,660
ever seen. It helps to really
view this as storytelling, not

515
00:30:55,660 --> 00:30:59,140
so much as news coverage, but as
political entertainment. NPR

516
00:30:59,140 --> 00:31:02,100
explained, we don't want to
waste our time on stories that

517
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:05,460
are not really stories. Who even
thought to make that story up,

518
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,760
a story that many intelligence
experts say has all the

519
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,580
hallmarks of a foreign
interference campaign looks like

520
00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:11,760
it's

521
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,400
tied to Vladimir Putin in
Moscow. This

522
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,400
is a Russian intelligence
disinformation campaign, foreign

523
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,480
intelligence operation,

524
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,340
foreign intelligence operation,
Russian intelligence. Rudy

525
00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:26,240
Giuliani was not fed passively
Russian disinformation. He

526
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:27,500
ordered off the menu. This

527
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:29,120
is a classic example of the
right

528
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,560
wing media machine, and

529
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,620
he's in the midst of a scandal.
He's not taking

530
00:31:35,780 --> 00:31:38,240
we should note Hunter Biden
isn't running for president.

531
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,920
That argument has been debunked.

532
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,880
There is no evidence that Joe
Biden did anything wrong. For

533
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,240
all we

534
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,800
know these emails are made up.
It just lacks credibility. Okay,

535
00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:51,880
start doing that. Bearing No,
we're

536
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:57,760
not going to do your work for
you. Sorry.

537
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,980
John C Dvorak: The main player
in there was Stelter at least

538
00:32:01,980 --> 00:32:05,160
three times. And then, of
course, Morning Joe jumps in.

539
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,520
These guys, of course, stelters
out. But these guys are so

540
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:14,040
corrupt at MSNBC, CNN, all of
them. John, all of them, yes,

541
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,180
but not to the extreme. Come on.
The extreme that you get when

542
00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:22,760
you go to MSNBC is off the
scale, at least they fake it a

543
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,260
little bit. At the other
networks, again, I blame Brian

544
00:32:27,260 --> 00:32:30,440
Right Blane Roberts, the guy who
runs Comcast. He's the guy

545
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,720
behind the whole thing. Anyway,

546
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:36,860
Adam Curry: it appears to me
that Elon may not have his

547
00:32:36,860 --> 00:32:41,320
fingers on the knobs, and that
yakarino is the one we need to

548
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,680
be looking at. I'll give I'll
give Elon the benefit of the

549
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:50,380
doubt. But you know, he did buy
Twitter for $44 billion banks

550
00:32:50,380 --> 00:32:53,920
can't unload this debt. They've
got $17 billion worth of debt,

551
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,800
which they want to sell for 30
cents on the dollar, because

552
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,020
that's what the debt is now
valued at. So you know why? Oh,

553
00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:03,240
just because you have money and
you believe in free speech.

554
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,220
Maybe, maybe. Well,

555
00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:07,980
John C Dvorak: another thing is,
I wonder how much of Elon's

556
00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:10,740
money, this is because there's a
lot of Saudi money. It's

557
00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:13,980
Adam Curry: not that's the point
everybody has influence in this

558
00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:14,340
thing.

559
00:33:15,540 --> 00:33:17,820
John C Dvorak: That's my that
would account for the fact you'd

560
00:33:17,820 --> 00:33:22,400
have somebody else come in and
actually Elon being a front man,

561
00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:28,100
Adam Curry: yes, yeah. And, and
it's always great. It's always

562
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:32,060
great when they're making fun of
the other team until it

563
00:33:32,060 --> 00:33:35,600
switches. You know? I mean, it's
like, it's always great when

564
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,180
they censor the bad guy stuff,
but when they turn around and

565
00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:41,560
use the same tools on you, then
it's not going to be so good. So

566
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,640
I'm just saying we need to be
wary of that, and that the only

567
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:51,040
place left for true free speech
is podcasting. I knew you were

568
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,600
no I was getting there and and
listen to and so now they're

569
00:33:55,780 --> 00:33:59,560
this is the psyop that's been
going on for a long time, and

570
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:05,460
came to a head again this week,
pod is dead. Podcasting evolved

571
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:09,060
away from Apple towards YouTube.
Oh, it's the everyone watches

572
00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:14,160
podcasts on YouTube. It's only
YouTube. They are trying so

573
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,120
hard, and to a degree,
succeeding, at convincing

574
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,340
everybody that podcasting is
dead. It's only YouTube. Now, I

575
00:34:22,340 --> 00:34:25,940
haven't heard this at all. Well,
I'm in the business. I'm in the

576
00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:26,600
business. Well, I'm

577
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,860
John C Dvorak: in the business
too,

578
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,660
Adam Curry: but you're not in
the business. No,

579
00:34:29,659 --> 00:34:31,879
John C Dvorak: I'm not running a
whole

580
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:34,580
Adam Curry: infrastructure
system.

581
00:34:34,700 --> 00:34:35,660
John C Dvorak: But yes,

582
00:34:35,779 --> 00:34:39,319
Adam Curry: and, and, you know,
and I would be okay if they, I

583
00:34:39,319 --> 00:34:43,299
mean, they should at least offer
to compromise me. I'm a little

584
00:34:43,299 --> 00:34:46,419
disappointed by that. Yeah,
where's the money? I don't know.

585
00:34:46,419 --> 00:34:50,919
The podcast index is, is truly
an, oh, man, so many these, a

586
00:34:50,919 --> 00:34:54,459
lot of these hosting companies
are in on it. I Not a lot, some

587
00:34:54,459 --> 00:34:54,939
of them.

588
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:57,700
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's,
it's, you know, in the

589
00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:58,720
corruption, yeah,

590
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,480
Adam Curry: I believe so, yeah.
Yeah, I

591
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,700
John C Dvorak: believe so you're
probably right. You, like you

592
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:03,900
said, you take it down,

593
00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:06,480
Adam Curry: take it down. Take
it down. Oh yeah, there's some

594
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,280
taken down going on. They've
already got, you know, Spotify,

595
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:16,560
for sure, because, you know
Spotify, they've got section 230

596
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:22,940
This is why Zuckerberg, I think,
is trying to cut bait and like,

597
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,000
oh, well, you know, Trump's
gonna get in, so I might as well

598
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,740
say hey, you know, because they
cleared his letter clearly says

599
00:35:30,860 --> 00:35:37,340
they coerced us under a, you
know, threat of Section 230 cue

600
00:35:37,340 --> 00:35:40,660
the ex Facebook people going out
and doing interviews.

601
00:35:40,780 --> 00:35:44,620
Unknown: It was peak covid and
peak debate about what was right

602
00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:48,100
or wrong information, and the
White House openly pressured

603
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:51,160
tech companies to moderate the
conversation. We don't

604
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,480
take anything down. We don't
block anything. Our point is

605
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,720
that there is information that
is leading to people not taking

606
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,800
the vaccine, and people are
dying as a result, and we have a

607
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,620
responsibility as a public
health matter to raise that

608
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,680
issue. Zuckerberg says he now
believes the government pressure

609
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,160
was wrong, and he's ready to
push back if it happens again.

610
00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:14,460
Do you believe that Facebook is
trying to suppress certain types

611
00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:17,820
of information? No, I don't.
Katie horbath is Facebook's

612
00:36:17,820 --> 00:36:21,680
former Director of Public Policy
and left in the spring of 21 is

613
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,220
this a former censorship what he
described, he makes clear

614
00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:28,220
that they made their own
decisions about this content. I

615
00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:29,780
think that's really important.
All

616
00:36:29,780 --> 00:36:31,040
of the platforms did.

617
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:33,920
She argues that Zuckerberg
admission is an example of

618
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,880
walking a fine line at a time of
court challenges to tech

619
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,140
companies over content
moderation and regulation

620
00:36:41,140 --> 00:36:42,160
threats. I think this

621
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,340
is consistent with meta wanting
to pull back from politics and

622
00:36:45,340 --> 00:36:49,660
news overall, and very much
trying to stay out of this

623
00:36:49,660 --> 00:36:51,760
political fray this time,
meaning

624
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,360
while the letter may say one
thing, social media's

625
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:00,040
relationship status with
Congress remains complicated,

626
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,420
Adam Curry: let me clarify on
the hosting companies. What I

627
00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:06,960
learned is that a lot of these
so called platforms, like

628
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:16,920
Spotify, Apple as well, Amazon
and iHeart, tune in if you want

629
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,100
your podcast there. It's not
just like you put out your RSS

630
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:24,200
feed and then they say, Oh, I'm
going to put this in. No, your

631
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,280
hosting company automatically
opts you into their terms of

632
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,480
service, which is exactly why
we're not on Spotify, because

633
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,180
they had Terms of Service like,
I'm not going to sign any terms

634
00:37:35,180 --> 00:37:40,480
of service. So that's how the
minute something happens that

635
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,680
that is not liked by the system.
They cannot just go to the

636
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,960
hosting company and say, pull
the plug Terms of Service.

637
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,360
Violation done, you're out by
per episode or per feed itself.

638
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,200
John C Dvorak: So there's and
the problem, of course, is that

639
00:37:57,580 --> 00:38:00,340
with something like Spotify, and
people started saying, listening

640
00:38:00,340 --> 00:38:04,500
to our podcast on Spotify
idiots, idiots, but you don't,

641
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,900
but, but let's say that we're a
Spotify podcast. And what would

642
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:12,540
happen is that there'd be so
many people gravitating toward

643
00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:15,180
that. Then once they pull the
plug on us, they would have

644
00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:17,640
they'd be like fish out of the
water, you know, flapping

645
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,740
around. Where are we going to
go? I don't know. And then you'd

646
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:22,820
forget about the podcast, you'd
never find it someplace else,

647
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,300
and then you're done, it's done,
and you're done, the podcast is

648
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:30,320
ruined. Yeah, yeah. You have to
have do your own it has to have

649
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,020
a home base that's outside of
these systems,

650
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,680
Adam Curry: you know? And now,
when I signed up, I don't hate

651
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,240
even I don't think my login even
works anymore on Apple, but the

652
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:44,020
Apple also had Terms of Service.
I don't know if that. I'm sure

653
00:38:44,020 --> 00:38:48,760
it has changed since covid. A
lot changed during covid. So to

654
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:54,760
bring it all back around,
there's not a lot of places, if

655
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,500
any, that we can really trust
for freedom of speech, because

656
00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:02,280
you may think that you're, you
know, you're in the Bozo filter.

657
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,300
You know, Linda yakarino may be
dialing you down, isn't and

658
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:09,480
certainly YouTube, oh yeah, get
everybody on YouTube. That's

659
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:15,480
where podcasts are great. Use a
modern podcast app, people, one

660
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,900
that uses the index podcast
apps.com so we will see what

661
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,500
happens to Pavel, but, but I
would say that the longer they

662
00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:28,400
keep him, although he's out on 5
million euro bail, can't leave

663
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,560
France, I would say that it's
going to become less trustworthy

664
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,120
for everybody. And then where do
you go? Signal literally takes

665
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,400
money from the US government. Us
well, NGOs that are funded by

666
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,920
the US government. So no, you
know WhatsApp, which is a

667
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:54,700
Facebook product or, yeah, a
meta product? No. So the control

668
00:39:54,700 --> 00:40:01,500
system is closing in on us, and
meanwhile, we're just. Here live

669
00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:04,380
in Val living the value for
value, life with no impact

670
00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:09,720
whatsoever. We have no impact
just we have

671
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:14,520
John C Dvorak: no impact. We
have we don't have impact in a

672
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:20,300
in a threatening sense. And why
is that? We do have impact in a

673
00:40:20,300 --> 00:40:22,100
subversive sense. Ooh,

674
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,420
Adam Curry: I like that explain.

675
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:28,940
John C Dvorak: Well, in other
words, we are. We have a subtext

676
00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:33,740
to everything we do, which is
truth, yes, and kind of truth

677
00:40:33,740 --> 00:40:36,680
and understanding, which is a
big deal. In other words,

678
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,080
figuring out what the news
really means, who's behind it,

679
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:47,020
what you just broke down with
the yakarino woman and the twin.

680
00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:47,380
Yeah,

681
00:40:48,820 --> 00:40:51,340
Adam Curry: Elon may not know.
Elon may think that he's talking

682
00:40:51,340 --> 00:40:53,140
to yakarino, but it's the twin.

683
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,460
John C Dvorak: And so that sort
of thing gets into the public

684
00:40:57,460 --> 00:41:01,380
subconscious, and that has a
subversive effect on the way

685
00:41:01,380 --> 00:41:03,960
people think about things,
because they have some sort of

686
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,820
realization that you wouldn't
normally have, and it's nothing

687
00:41:08,820 --> 00:41:12,660
you can put really stamp out.
It's just, it's subtle. And so

688
00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:15,300
that's what we do. That's why
there's nobody really, that's

689
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:18,360
where you like we don't appear
to have influence. So

690
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,860
Adam Curry: we're kind of like
the Paul Revere of podcasting,

691
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,100
we're just ringing the just
ringing the bell. British are

692
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:31,940
coming. We're just ringing the
bell. We're the Minutemen. Okay,

693
00:41:31,940 --> 00:41:34,940
well, I'm happy. I'm happy that
we're doing it. For sure, I'm

694
00:41:34,940 --> 00:41:36,980
happy and,

695
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,160
John C Dvorak: well this people
are happy that we're doing

696
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,660
Adam Curry: it, yeah, oh, yeah.
And they, I don't care, and they

697
00:41:43,660 --> 00:41:46,300
do meetups. And, you know,
people in the meetups like, what

698
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:48,160
are they? What are they? Were
these people may go stand over,

699
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,180
what are they talking about? And
they learn things. So we're a

700
00:41:52,180 --> 00:41:56,020
slow role. We're like, the
molasses of influence,

701
00:41:56,020 --> 00:41:59,860
John C Dvorak: molasses of
subversion. Exactly,

702
00:42:01,780 --> 00:42:05,880
Adam Curry: I think I've figured
out what. This is actually quite

703
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:11,760
good. And it was predicted. It
was we it was all over the place

704
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,020
during covid, and we never
really followed through on it.

705
00:42:16,020 --> 00:42:20,900
And I think that we're finally
getting there. I'll start with

706
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:24,500
this clip, just because you
understand what the what the

707
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:30,200
true evil is in our world. It's
not viruses anymore. No, no,

708
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,700
it's mosquitoes. Listen,

709
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:33,440
Unknown: there's a lot going on,
especially here in South

710
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,040
Florida, where we already have
experienced West Nile and dengue

711
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,500
and Zika, and now we have this
illness to concern ourselves

712
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:47,020
with sloth fever, or sloth flu,
is what it's sometimes called.

713
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:50,680
Decades ago, researchers first
investigating the virus found it

714
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,040
in a sloth, and it was thought
the animals helped spread the

715
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:54,460
disease.

716
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:56,560
You might have gotten it from a
sloth

717
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,980
that had been bitten by a Midge.
You might not have you might

718
00:42:59,980 --> 00:43:02,760
have gotten it from a Midge and
bitten somebody else. Okay,

719
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,000
Adam Curry: so mosquitoes, they
add in midges because it's just

720
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,560
funny, because it makes you
think about So mosquitoes, and

721
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,880
what creates mosquitoes, and
this is the part that we stop

722
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,660
thinking about

723
00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:18,060
Unknown: and to Healthwatch this
morning, the mosquitoes are bad

724
00:43:18,060 --> 00:43:20,540
out there, and we're looking at
new concerns over diseases

725
00:43:20,540 --> 00:43:23,660
spread by those mosquitoes. A
New Hampshire man recently died

726
00:43:23,660 --> 00:43:27,500
from Eastern equine SF
encephalitis I knew is going to

727
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:29,960
screw that one up. It's a rare
illness, no vaccine, no

728
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,200
treatment. In Massachusetts,
some towns, in response, are now

729
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,860
spraying for mosquitoes and also
urging people to stay inside in

730
00:43:36,860 --> 00:43:39,680
the evening and nighttime when
the mosquitoes are out. CBS News

731
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,240
Medical contributor Dr Celine
gounder asked the CDC director

732
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:46,960
Mandy Cohen if climate change is
affecting these kinds of

733
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:47,500
outgrowths.

734
00:43:47,980 --> 00:43:51,700
You know, the impact of heat on
our health and climate change is

735
00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:54,760
not only impacting us as humans,
but it's changing where

736
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,200
mosquitoes and ticks live, and
thus what diseases are moving

737
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,420
around in different regions.
We're just seeing more bugs, and

738
00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:07,260
some of those bugs are becoming
resistant to our control methods

739
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:07,800
due

740
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,300
to climate change. That's

741
00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:12,600
Adam Curry: right, dude. We
forgot all about this. They kept

742
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,740
saying, Oh no, the next pandemic
will come from climate change.

743
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:21,080
Unknown: Eastern Equine
Encephalitis. Equine means

744
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,660
horses. We're not horses. What
can you tell us about it? Why is

745
00:44:23,660 --> 00:44:24,560
it hurting people? Well,

746
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,140
this is something that we see
with many infectious diseases,

747
00:44:27,140 --> 00:44:30,560
that the host might be another
animal, maybe a bat, which is

748
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:35,060
what we suspect with covid, for
example, or with Ebola. But in

749
00:44:35,060 --> 00:44:37,820
this case, what we think is
happening is horses. Perhaps

750
00:44:37,820 --> 00:44:41,260
other animals are the host.
Mosquitoes are biting them and

751
00:44:41,260 --> 00:44:43,900
then transmitting that infection
to humans. And

752
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:47,080
Adam Curry: what's better than
mosquitoes? Because it's just as

753
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,400
scary. I walked outside and saw
mosquito I've got I've got to

754
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,440
wear a hazmat suit to my
pickleball game. Oh no, and it's

755
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,180
all because of climate change.
So

756
00:44:58,180 --> 00:45:01,140
Unknown: the CDC director Cohen
talked about. Out the big factor

757
00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:03,960
of heat playing a significant
role, and we know the CDC has

758
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,440
said mosquitoes are the world's
deadliest animal. What more can

759
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,620
be done when it comes to
addressing these issues, finding

760
00:45:10,620 --> 00:45:12,000
treatments and vaccines?

761
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,800
Well, climate change is creating
the right breeding ground for

762
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,020
mosquitoes, so you have hotter,
more humid, longer summers,

763
00:45:21,020 --> 00:45:23,480
which means people are coming
into contact with mosquitoes

764
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,380
that much more and so therefore
mosquito borne infections. What

765
00:45:27,380 --> 00:45:30,620
can we be doing? Well, the
really most important thing is

766
00:45:30,620 --> 00:45:32,600
to be controlling the
mosquitoes. So there are some

767
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,440
traditional ways of doing that.
You want to drain your standing

768
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,080
water. You want to be spraying
and there are some newer

769
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,660
technologies there to control
mosquitoes that don't involve

770
00:45:41,660 --> 00:45:44,980
pesticides. Some of those are
being piloted in place like the

771
00:45:44,980 --> 00:45:47,080
places like the Florida Keys,
where you have lots of

772
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,160
mosquitoes, but we still have a
lot to go in terms of developing

773
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,660
treatments or vaccines. Now,

774
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:56,080
Adam Curry: let us all remind
ourselves that it is Bill Gates,

775
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,200
because, of course, wherever
there's something nasty, there's

776
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,580
the nasty man himself, Bill
Gates, who was genetically

777
00:46:02,580 --> 00:46:07,140
modifying mosquitoes so they
wouldn't reproduce. They don't

778
00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:10,080
talk about that right now, at
least, I haven't found any

779
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,220
clips. And in 2007 he was
already talking about

780
00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:17,820
mosquitoes. Remember when he
released mosquitoes into the TED

781
00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:22,580
conference illegally? Yes, and
was like, arrested

782
00:46:22,580 --> 00:46:24,980
John C Dvorak: on the spot. So

783
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:27,740
Adam Curry: put all of that
together, climate change bill

784
00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:32,540
gates, mosquitoes, and, you
know, like that gets the in

785
00:46:32,540 --> 00:46:34,940
Massachusetts, and we played
that clip on the last show,

786
00:46:34,940 --> 00:46:37,100
like, oh, you might want to stay
inside, because, you know,

787
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:42,160
climate change mosquitoes, Oh,
no. And right.

788
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,060
John C Dvorak: Just as an aside,
before you continue, there has

789
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:49,180
been less and less mosquitoes in
this area. We

790
00:46:49,180 --> 00:46:51,220
Adam Curry: have none ever.
Yeah, I know

791
00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:54,760
John C Dvorak: like and there's
two things going on that have to

792
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,020
be addressed with the
mosquitoes. One, it's windier

793
00:46:59,020 --> 00:47:03,120
than usual, and when it's
windier, the mosquitoes, once

794
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,880
they get it, they are not a bug,
that is, that can fly around in

795
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,000
a wind. They just get blown to
someplace else. They get blown

796
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,480
away, and there's the end of
them. And so we've had more wind

797
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,660
than usual, which is that you
could say, Well, climate change

798
00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:21,680
is causing winds. And if climate
change is causing winds. The

799
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,720
winds are blowing away the
mosquitoes. So there can't be

800
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:28,040
more mosquitoes. There is a
problem. That's a conundrum in

801
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,180
in logic.

802
00:47:29,420 --> 00:47:31,820
Adam Curry: You drive these
mosquitoes. You drive on the

803
00:47:31,820 --> 00:47:35,120
freeway right from time to I do
drive, of course, I drive what?

804
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,860
When's the you Well,

805
00:47:37,220 --> 00:47:39,800
John C Dvorak: I can't get on
the freeway. What are you

806
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,220
talking about? Course I drive on
the freeway, just

807
00:47:42,220 --> 00:47:44,980
Adam Curry: asking, because now
the next the follow up question

808
00:47:44,980 --> 00:47:47,980
is, when's the last time you had
to scrape bugs off of your

809
00:47:47,980 --> 00:47:48,700
windshield?

810
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,860
John C Dvorak: Excellent point.
When I was a kid, we would drive

811
00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:57,340
down 99 or whatever to say to
LA, we were doing, we're just

812
00:47:57,340 --> 00:48:02,220
driving anywhere. All you. Well,
there's two things here. I've

813
00:48:02,220 --> 00:48:07,020
talked I thought about this too.
Is they used to get so many just

814
00:48:07,020 --> 00:48:11,580
get the windshield be filled
with bugs and so but, but the

815
00:48:11,580 --> 00:48:15,720
cars aerodynamics have changed
so much that the bugs, like

816
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:18,600
don't hit the windshield
anymore. They go up and over.

817
00:48:18,780 --> 00:48:22,220
That's one supposed reason. But,
well,

818
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,440
Adam Curry: you have a 30 year
old Lexus,

819
00:48:25,940 --> 00:48:30,020
John C Dvorak: very aerodynamic
car, but, but besides that, but

820
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:35,360
it doesn't excuse the fact that
the grills, right, which aren't

821
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,500
as aerodynamic, don't have the
bugs either, right? So there's

822
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:42,280
something we don't have the
flying insect problem we had,

823
00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:44,920
I'd say 50 years ago. No.

824
00:48:45,820 --> 00:48:51,280
Adam Curry: But even though this
morning, it was 72 degrees in

825
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,780
August in Texas, where my lawn
is green, for the first time

826
00:48:56,020 --> 00:49:00,900
that I've lived in Texas for 15
years, somehow it's the hottest

827
00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:01,920
year on record. This

828
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,680
Unknown: morning, record
breaking heat spreading across

829
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:05,880
more of the US.

830
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,480
It's warmer than I like. It's a
little hard to breathe. The

831
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:09,840
higher

832
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,680
temperatures a growing concern.
As a new study shows, the number

833
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:20,400
of related deaths in the US
skyrocketed by 117% between 1999

834
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,380
and 2023,

835
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,320
we saw more heat related deaths.
Wait,

836
00:49:24,380 --> 00:49:27,560
John C Dvorak: wait, yes, stop
the clip. Do they give us actual

837
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:33,740
numbers just went up 100% from
one to two, but

838
00:49:33,740 --> 00:49:36,860
Adam Curry: we also have 100%
more people homeless on the

839
00:49:36,860 --> 00:49:39,560
streets who may just be frying
and dying.

840
00:49:40,340 --> 00:49:42,220
John C Dvorak: There's that teen
percent

841
00:49:42,340 --> 00:49:45,100
Unknown: between 1999 and 2023
we

842
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:49,960
saw more heat related deaths in
2023 than we ever have in the 20

843
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,480
some years of records. And
that's definitely still an

844
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,680
undercount. More than

845
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,280
21,000 heat related deaths were
reported over the last two

846
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,780
decades. Scientists citing
climate change. Wait, so what?

847
00:50:00,780 --> 00:50:01,200
Again,

848
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,620
John C Dvorak: it gets better at
the end, if you're going to play

849
00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:09,840
this kind of garbage, and you
get stopped. ABC says she if

850
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:16,200
you're going to play a always
becoming climate change. So if

851
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,360
you're going to play this stuff,
I have to interrupt. She said

852
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,900
something very peculiar in
there. She says, we have, don't

853
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:27,740
get these numbers, but it's and
we have this numbers more than

854
00:50:27,740 --> 00:50:31,820
ever before, and it's under
counted. Yeah, how do you know

855
00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:35,000
it's under counted? If you never
have these numbers? Because

856
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,200
Adam Curry: it's a lie. This is
all psychological warfare, and

857
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,320
we're propagating it for free
for them?

858
00:50:42,220 --> 00:50:44,320
John C Dvorak: Well, no, we're
actually, I think we're counter

859
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,740
propagating. We are, we are, we
are. But this, this, this notion

860
00:50:47,740 --> 00:50:49,900
that it's under counted. Wait
until

861
00:50:49,900 --> 00:50:52,360
Adam Curry: you hear what she
says, what he says at the end 20

862
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,940
Unknown: some years of records,
and that's definitely still an

863
00:50:54,940 --> 00:50:55,480
undercount.

864
00:50:55,660 --> 00:50:58,240
Adam Curry: Definitely. It's not
just definitely, definitely

865
00:50:58,240 --> 00:50:59,620
under it's definitely

866
00:50:59,620 --> 00:51:02,760
John C Dvorak: that give us the
real count? Lady, more than 20?

867
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,660
No, it's an undercount. It's
definitely an undercount. What

868
00:51:06,660 --> 00:51:09,060
is the real number? Then you
should be able to do it.

869
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,340
Adam Curry: She's not going to
tell you. It's not interactive

870
00:51:11,340 --> 00:51:12,600
that way. She can't hear by

871
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,760
John C Dvorak: the way, did she
ever give actual numbers?

872
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,680
Percentages? 117%

873
00:51:17,940 --> 00:51:21,080
Unknown: more than 21,000. Heat
related deaths were reported

874
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,320
over the last two decades.
Scientists citing climate

875
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,160
change, the weather so hot after
starting their first day of

876
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,660
school yesterday, students at 63
public schools in Philadelphia

877
00:51:32,660 --> 00:51:35,840
will be sent home early today
and tomorrow. Do not

878
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,980
have air in our cafeteria, in
our auditorium. Schools,

879
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:40,900
also,

880
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,340
Adam Curry: there's no air,
there's

881
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,620
Unknown: no air, no air. I

882
00:51:44,620 --> 00:51:48,100
Adam Curry: think she means air
conditioning, but yeah, we'll do

883
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:52,060
the Dvorak. What? No oxygen, no
air. Here, in

884
00:51:52,060 --> 00:51:55,420
Unknown: our cafeteria, in our
auditorium, some schools

885
00:51:55,420 --> 00:51:59,380
in Iowa also dismissed early due
to high temps and no AC. At

886
00:51:59,380 --> 00:51:59,680
seven

887
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:00,300
o'clock, it

888
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:04,260
John C Dvorak: was already 86 or
87 degrees. Oh no, by the time I

889
00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:09,000
leave at one, it'll be in the
90s. Why this is considered good

890
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:14,040
weather 87 it's beautiful. If
people go to Hawaii just to be

891
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,640
in 87 degree weather. It's
called, now you're dying from

892
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,620
it. It's called Summer

893
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,040
Unknown: in Detroit, students
will be sent home early again

894
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,140
today, frustrating parents. They

895
00:52:24,140 --> 00:52:27,380
knew the weather was going to be
rather hot, and they know they

896
00:52:27,380 --> 00:52:29,660
don't have accommodations in a
school to where they're

897
00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:31,460
providing AC, the heat

898
00:52:31,460 --> 00:52:34,400
fueling more calls to invest
federal funds and outfitting

899
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,460
more schools with AC. The
extreme heat continues for

900
00:52:37,460 --> 00:52:41,440
several days. Triple digits are
possible in Nashville today, and

901
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,780
Chicago could set a record. I've

902
00:52:43,780 --> 00:52:46,720
Adam Curry: been to Chicago
before this climate change, and

903
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:47,980
it could set

904
00:52:47,980 --> 00:52:50,140
John C Dvorak: a wet record, but
it's not going to but wait, it

905
00:52:50,140 --> 00:52:56,620
gets better. I lived in Chicago.
Yeah, it's hot and humid. It's

906
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,900
terrible in the summer. Listen

907
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:02,820
Adam Curry: to listen to the the
last numerical statistics.

908
00:53:02,820 --> 00:53:03,660
You'll love it with

909
00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:05,760
Unknown: feel like temperatures
in parts of the Midwest,

910
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,860
reaching one. Did you hear it?

911
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,040
John C Dvorak: I, you know, I
was watching this with Jay the

912
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,960
other day. Feels like, feels
like now. Feels like, it feels

913
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,440
like

914
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,480
Adam Curry: now. It's just feels
like temperature. Yeah, it feels

915
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,480
John C Dvorak: like temperature.
It feels like, oh. And then they

916
00:53:23,540 --> 00:53:28,100
here's the worst part, they put
a map up and they put all these

917
00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:30,500
temperatures up, but they
weren't temperatures at all.

918
00:53:30,500 --> 00:53:36,500
They were all feels like, yes,
so you had 115 110, and it was

919
00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:39,980
just a map of all these very
high temperatures, but none of

920
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,600
them were real. They're all
feels like yes, and you could

921
00:53:43,660 --> 00:53:47,740
feel well right now. Let me
think right here in the in the

922
00:53:47,980 --> 00:53:53,560
podcasting room, it feels like
200 degrees. Well, maybe I

923
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,100
should take this shirt off. It
feels like 200 degrees. No,

924
00:53:57,100 --> 00:54:00,120
Adam Curry: don't take the shirt
off. Whatever you

925
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,120
Unknown: do people? Digits are
possible. In Nashville today and

926
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,780
Chicago could set a record with
feel like temperatures in parts

927
00:54:06,780 --> 00:54:11,340
of the Midwest reaching 115
degrees. As for that study on

928
00:54:11,340 --> 00:54:14,280
heat related deaths, researchers
say the uptick has been

929
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,820
especially high in the last
seven years, which scientists

930
00:54:17,820 --> 00:54:20,160
say proves the impact of climate
change.

931
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,740
Climate change.

932
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,520
Adam Curry: It's all due to
climate change. Oh,

933
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,560
John C Dvorak: the last seven
years. And by because it's

934
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,440
happened in the last seven
years, not the last 1 million

935
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,420
years, by the way, but the last
seven years proves it. Proves it

936
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,380
because it's gone on for seven
years, supposedly gone on for

937
00:54:39,380 --> 00:54:41,500
seven years, you don't even know
that to be true. Yeah.

938
00:54:41,980 --> 00:54:46,420
Adam Curry: So the got the hot
weather, it's moisture. We also

939
00:54:46,420 --> 00:54:49,960
have corn sweat. I didn't pull
the clip, but that's another new

940
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:55,300
one. What's corn sweat? Corn
sweat is, you know, when it gets

941
00:54:55,300 --> 00:55:01,620
warm, then every every living
plant exudes moisture. Her. And

942
00:55:01,620 --> 00:55:04,740
so they show a map and like, Oh,
look at this in the in the corn

943
00:55:04,740 --> 00:55:08,880
region, it's various very bad
mosquitoes because of corn

944
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,480
sweat.

945
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,020
John C Dvorak: You guys, you
blew it. Didn't get that clip?

946
00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:19,440
Adam Curry: Well, I can actually
find it for you. No, don't

947
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,180
John C Dvorak: worry about it. I
already gave away the punchline

948
00:55:23,180 --> 00:55:23,780
here, corn

949
00:55:23,780 --> 00:55:27,200
Adam Curry: sweat. Let me say
Scientific American. Here we go,

950
00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:31,040
corn sweat and climate change
brings sweltering weather to the

951
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,040
Mideast. A heat wave is

952
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,380
John C Dvorak: sweat. So it's
corn sweat that's bringing the

953
00:55:36,380 --> 00:55:37,700
weather. Is that what it said?
Yeah,

954
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:39,980
Unknown: there's a reason why
this map of corn production

955
00:55:39,980 --> 00:55:43,780
looks so similar to this map of
heat risk in the US today. And

956
00:55:43,780 --> 00:55:45,400
the answer heat risk, another

957
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,180
Adam Curry: good one, John,

958
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,960
John C Dvorak: that's a show
title, heat risk

959
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,680
Unknown: in the US today. And
the answer is, corn sweat. Yes,

960
00:55:53,740 --> 00:55:56,980
corn sweat. Corn sweat is a
truly excellent term for

961
00:55:56,980 --> 00:56:00,180
something that's really known as
evapotranspiration. It's

962
00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:01,560
something that, oh,

963
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,680
Adam Curry: evapotranspiration.
This is why I didn't pull the

964
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:09,180
clip, because it's not a news
clip. It's some, some peachy

965
00:56:09,180 --> 00:56:10,860
thing talking inspiration.

966
00:56:10,980 --> 00:56:13,680
Unknown: It's something that all
plants do. It's releasing water

967
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,100
into the atmosphere when it
grows to regulate temperature.

968
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:21,620
But corn does this especially
well, and where there's lots and

969
00:56:21,620 --> 00:56:25,400
lots and lots of corn grown,
like in the Midwest, it actually

970
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,060
has a measurable impact on the
humidity of the area.

971
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,880
Adam Curry: Corn sweat. I think
that's the show title right

972
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:38,060
there. Corn sweat. I'm agreeing.
Corn sweat. So man, we just just

973
00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:41,800
making it up as we go along.
What can what can we sigh up

974
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,820
these idiots with now on a corn
sweat? Oh, good one. And you

975
00:56:45,820 --> 00:56:49,420
know what comes from corn sweat
mosquitoes, and what comes from

976
00:56:49,420 --> 00:56:57,280
mosquitoes, sloth fever and Zika
and dengue and dengue, yeah, and

977
00:56:57,460 --> 00:57:01,980
sloth fever and Equine
Encephalitis. Yeah, which way,

978
00:57:01,980 --> 00:57:02,220
there's

979
00:57:02,220 --> 00:57:04,800
John C Dvorak: 11 cases a year
on average, every year, year in

980
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,560
and year out. There's one so
far, which I think is, let's

981
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,580
just get that out of the

982
00:57:08,580 --> 00:57:11,400
Adam Curry: way, which I think
is treatable with ivermectin, I

983
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:18,720
believe could be Yeah. So it's
weird, and they're just, it's

984
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,920
building it's a strategy of
tension. Just build it up. Build

985
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,920
it up. Build it up. Oh, think of
the children there. Why don't

986
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,940
the children? Why do the schools
not have air conditioning? We

987
00:57:28,940 --> 00:57:35,720
spend hundreds of billions of
dollars a year on stupid books

988
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:40,960
and and stupid books, stupid
books, really stupid books that

989
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:46,900
go into the schools, dumb books.
Oh, my first blow job at 12. But

990
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:50,140
we don't have AC for these
children, by Bill Clinton, by

991
00:57:50,140 --> 00:57:56,560
the way. Oh, we need to stop
this.

992
00:57:58,180 --> 00:58:00,900
John C Dvorak: Schools have AC.
Yes,

993
00:58:01,260 --> 00:58:04,740
Adam Curry: not the ones in the
report, not in Chicago,

994
00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:07,620
apparently, not in Chicago. Did
you go to school when you lived

995
00:58:07,620 --> 00:58:08,280
in Chicago?

996
00:58:08,580 --> 00:58:09,780
John C Dvorak: I did, of course.
Did

997
00:58:09,780 --> 00:58:12,300
Adam Curry: they have air
conditioning? I don't remember.

998
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,240
Did they have heating in the
winter? You'd hope they would.

999
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:16,200
Boy, you

1000
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,820
John C Dvorak: have to have
heating in the winter. Yeah,

1001
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,220
it's cold too. Yeah, Chicago's
got is, got extreme climate,

1002
00:58:22,340 --> 00:58:27,320
yes, always has, though, it gets
super cold in the winter, yeah,

1003
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,880
and miserable. And it get and
miserable, yeah, and, and it

1004
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,780
gets extremely hot and muggy in
the summer, and there's a good

1005
00:58:35,780 --> 00:58:38,540
period of time, there's
probably, uh, four months out of

1006
00:58:38,540 --> 00:58:41,500
the year just before summer, and
just after summer works. Really

1007
00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:43,660
super nice. It's so nice, yeah,

1008
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,940
Adam Curry: oh the so nice.
That's it. You get 44

1009
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,660
John C Dvorak: months out of the
year that comes from Chicago.

1010
00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:51,580
Ridiculously Nice. Yeah,

1011
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,300
Adam Curry: there's always been,
but she didn't hear about corn

1012
00:58:55,300 --> 00:58:58,360
sweat because she grew up in
Indiana. Never heard of corn

1013
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:04,560
sweat, strangely enough. Yeah,
yeah. Well, there we go. All

1014
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,880
right. Back to you, Bob.

1015
00:59:07,380 --> 00:59:09,660
John C Dvorak: Well, what else
we got here? You know, I want to

1016
00:59:09,660 --> 00:59:11,940
get this out of the way. I
didn't want to get these clips,

1017
00:59:11,940 --> 00:59:15,660
but I'm going to do them. This
is about Jack Smith and re

1018
00:59:15,660 --> 00:59:18,480
rejiggering. Oh, good, yeah,
yeah. This is good. I didn't

1019
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,080
want to get them, but it turns
out that there's interesting

1020
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,640
material in here. This is I got
four it's four parter. It was an

1021
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,940
analysis. So it turns out to be
a lot more than I wanted. But

1022
00:59:28,940 --> 00:59:32,120
it's all short. I mean, I wanted
eclipses 13 seconds, so it's not

1023
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,600
gonna kill anybody. Good. So
let's go with Jax. And this is

1024
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:40,780
all from NTD. This is mt d, so
the Democratic

1025
00:59:40,780 --> 00:59:43,240
Unknown: Congressman Jamie
Raskin called the superseding

1026
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,700
indictment against former
President Donald Trump

1027
00:59:45,700 --> 00:59:50,320
heroic and something quietly
heroic about Jack Smith

1028
00:59:50,380 --> 00:59:54,340
insisting on going forward to
make sure that this plot come to

1029
00:59:54,340 --> 00:59:58,900
light, Donald Trump tried to
interfere with the peaceful

1030
00:59:58,900 --> 01:00:02,880
transfer of power. So Jack Smith
is trying to make the law work

1031
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,500
in the way it was intended to,

1032
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,160
Adam Curry: wow, that's exactly
right. He's trying to make the

1033
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,240
law work,

1034
01:00:09,300 --> 01:00:12,120
John C Dvorak: trying to trying
to make the law work.

1035
01:00:13,140 --> 01:00:15,540
Adam Curry: He just admits it.
He's just finagling everything

1036
01:00:15,540 --> 01:00:19,800
to try and squeeze it into the
law to make it work. All right.

1037
01:00:20,220 --> 01:00:21,920
John C Dvorak: Jamie Raskin is a
dick.

1038
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,840
Adam Curry: Jamie Raskin is a
problem. He's, he's a he is, I'd

1039
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,260
say, top of the list of people
we need to get out of there.

1040
01:00:30,860 --> 01:00:32,960
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's a
terrible person. He's a Yeah,

1041
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,480
and he looks evil. If you look
at him. He's just an evil

1042
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:41,980
looking guy. Yeah, and, and he's
like, all in he has this theory

1043
01:00:41,980 --> 01:00:45,580
that it is, I don't have the
clip on this list, but he came

1044
01:00:45,580 --> 01:00:48,460
out with saying we're gonna not
let Trump take office if he

1045
01:00:48,460 --> 01:00:49,660
wins. Yes, yeah. He said

1046
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,840
Adam Curry: we're gonna have to
have a Secret Service protection

1047
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,200
for everybody in Congress,
because we're gonna get him out

1048
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,960
and, you know, basically saying
we'll have a civil war, but

1049
01:00:58,960 --> 01:00:59,920
we'll be protected.

1050
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,120
John C Dvorak: Yes, I heard that
clip. Basically, is what he

1051
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,380
said, exactly. Yeah, that's what
he said. He is a very horrible

1052
01:01:07,380 --> 01:01:10,080
he's a horrible man. Okay, part
two,

1053
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,200
Unknown: Speaker of the House,
Mike Johnson posted on social

1054
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,960
media that Donald Trump
continues to be the most

1055
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,720
persecuted politician in the
history of the US. Speaker

1056
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,500
Johnson added that special
counsel Jack Smith has brought

1057
01:01:21,500 --> 01:01:24,740
yet another bogus indictment,
and that Americans are sick of

1058
01:01:24,740 --> 01:01:28,220
his corruption and shameless law
fair, Democratic Congresswoman

1059
01:01:28,220 --> 01:01:31,220
soy lovbren from California
aimed her criticism at the

1060
01:01:31,220 --> 01:01:34,880
Supreme Court's ruling last
month on presidential immunity

1061
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,700
and blamed former President
Donald Trump for the events of

1062
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:38,420
January 6

1063
01:01:38,420 --> 01:01:46,000
Supreme Court made really a
radical decision granting Trump

1064
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,860
immunity. Bizarre case, the
judge has to have an evidentiary

1065
01:01:50,860 --> 01:01:55,180
hearing to find out what is the
evidence supporting the slimmed

1066
01:01:55,180 --> 01:01:59,440
down indictment. But I mean, one
thing is abundantly clear, the

1067
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,540
former president summoned a mob
to Washington.

1068
01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:06,600
Adam Curry: Who was that
speaking?

1069
01:02:07,860 --> 01:02:11,100
John C Dvorak: Our local idiot,
Zoe Lofgren,

1070
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,600
Adam Curry: oh, Zoe is still
around. Isn't? Was wasn't Zoe a

1071
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,220
trans

1072
01:02:17,940 --> 01:02:18,420
John C Dvorak: No, no.

1073
01:02:19,260 --> 01:02:20,660
Adam Curry: I think of someone.
Else. She

1074
01:02:20,660 --> 01:02:25,700
John C Dvorak: just looks child.
She's an ugly woman. Oh, they're

1075
01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:27,500
Adam Curry: so judgmental.

1076
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:28,700
Unknown: Well, well,

1077
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,080
Adam Curry: we're handsome,
luckily. Well,

1078
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,880
John C Dvorak: that's what we do
for this. No, we're not.

1079
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:33,200
Adam Curry: Yes, we are. You

1080
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,420
John C Dvorak: can make a
judgment about somebody being

1081
01:02:35,420 --> 01:02:38,660
ugly when they're ugly. I mean,
I don't think there's any reason

1082
01:02:38,660 --> 01:02:40,100
not to make this judgment.

1083
01:02:40,220 --> 01:02:42,280
Adam Curry: I'm with you. I'm
glad you said it.

1084
01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:46,120
John C Dvorak: You know, I've
never been condemned for that.

1085
01:02:46,660 --> 01:02:49,180
Adam Curry: People are afraid of
you, and they can't spell your

1086
01:02:49,180 --> 01:02:52,420
last name, so they don't know
how to email you. They email me

1087
01:02:52,420 --> 01:02:54,400
instead. Okay, so

1088
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,680
John C Dvorak: we go, we now we
get to hear something that you

1089
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,380
may have heard elsewhere. Let's
go to clip three. Senator

1090
01:02:59,380 --> 01:03:02,580
Unknown: and vice presidential
candidate JD Vance defended the

1091
01:03:02,580 --> 01:03:06,060
Supreme Court's ruling regarding
presidential immunity and

1092
01:03:06,060 --> 01:03:08,400
dismissed the superseding
indictment against former

1093
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,220
President Donald Trump as
election interference. The

1094
01:03:11,220 --> 01:03:14,580
way that I think about it is try
to make this nonpartisan Barack

1095
01:03:14,580 --> 01:03:18,360
Obama ordered drones to strike
an American citizen in Yemen.

1096
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:22,940
That's like the definition of
murder, unless you recognize the

1097
01:03:22,940 --> 01:03:26,420
President has some immunity in
conducting his official act.

1098
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,080
Adam Curry: There's Vance doing
the translation, doing his job,

1099
01:03:30,980 --> 01:03:34,280
John C Dvorak: but he does, does
it well. And the fact is that

1100
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,520
nobody keep he's the first guy
noticed that really brought it

1101
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,780
up, which is that Obama, if you
didn't have this immunity

1102
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,560
decision by the Supreme Court
would be Obama would be liable

1103
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,280
for murder. And the only thing
Vance didn't do is bring up the

1104
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,000
fact that, after murdering the
American citizen, he murdered

1105
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:57,220
his son a few days later. Yeah.
Well, you know that innocent 16

1106
01:03:57,220 --> 01:04:02,160
year old kid drinking a coffee,
drinking a coffee mind his own

1107
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:08,220
business, but no, that's okay.
That's good. That's good. All

1108
01:04:08,220 --> 01:04:09,120
right, I'm onward. It

1109
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,640
Unknown: is important to note
that despite criticism against

1110
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,820
Special Counsel investigations
against former President Donald

1111
01:04:14,820 --> 01:04:17,400
Trump, House Republican
leadership has decided not to

1112
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,280
pursue the strategy of defunding
the Department of Justice

1113
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,080
through the appropriations
process. What

1114
01:04:25,700 --> 01:04:29,180
John C Dvorak: Wait, this is the
reason I ended with this clip

1115
01:04:29,180 --> 01:04:33,920
was, this is the typical
Republicans, and they've been

1116
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,400
doing this, and they do it and
do it. Holly just did it with a

1117
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:38,660
by bringing on one

1118
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,520
Adam Curry: showboat, and then
nothing happens,

1119
01:04:42,580 --> 01:04:46,000
John C Dvorak: yeah? Showboat,
in fact, she he actually, for

1120
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,940
all practical purpose. He had
gray, I don't have the clip, but

1121
01:04:48,940 --> 01:04:52,840
he had Granholm, yeah, and he's
get lecturing her about how she

1122
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,740
lied. Wait a minute, she lied to
Congress. Where is the

1123
01:04:56,740 --> 01:05:00,480
indictment for lying to now, if
it was a Republican in. In the

1124
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,780
olden days, and a Democrat was
the Democrats are running

1125
01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:08,280
Congress. They indict them.
Yeah, they're lying to Congress.

1126
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:08,700
They're much

1127
01:05:08,700 --> 01:05:12,840
Adam Curry: better at that
stuff. More to do. You just send

1128
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,000
John C Dvorak: the indictment
through. They won't do it. They

1129
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,240
just keep harassing them,
haranguing them and making them

1130
01:05:18,540 --> 01:05:22,340
looking good by being a showboat
or like Holly, and then you do

1131
01:05:22,340 --> 01:05:24,920
nothing. You do absolutely
nothing. These Republicans are

1132
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,120
ridiculous. I would have

1133
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,980
Adam Curry: more respect for
Holly if you just said, Hey,

1134
01:05:27,980 --> 01:05:31,460
Grant home, you're ugly and you
got big ears. I'd have respect

1135
01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:33,200
for him if you said that. No,
she's

1136
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,240
John C Dvorak: not. She's not. I
wouldn't call her ugly. No.

1137
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,980
Okay, so

1138
01:05:38,540 --> 01:05:41,140
Adam Curry: I have tried, and I
have some stuff here on this?

1139
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:41,740
Well, I

1140
01:05:41,740 --> 01:05:43,660
John C Dvorak: want to do this
the last clip. This is the

1141
01:05:43,660 --> 01:05:47,440
analysis just it was a long
analysis. I only took I have

1142
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,320
part one, but I didn't clip
anything else. Earlier,

1143
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,540
Unknown: we spoke with Zach
Smith, senior legal fellow at

1144
01:05:52,540 --> 01:05:55,420
the Heritage Foundation, and
former federal prosecutor, about

1145
01:05:55,420 --> 01:05:58,420
the superseding indictment. Zach
Smith, thank you so much for

1146
01:05:58,420 --> 01:06:00,660
joining us. Great to have you
back on the show. Now to begin

1147
01:06:00,660 --> 01:06:04,620
what changes were made to this
newest indictment, the original

1148
01:06:04,620 --> 01:06:07,620
four charges haven't changed. So
what's different here?

1149
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,460
Yeah, this is a little bit of an
unusual situation for a

1150
01:06:11,460 --> 01:06:14,400
superseding indictment. A
superseding indictment typically

1151
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,520
means that prosecutors are
adding additional charges

1152
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,260
against a defendant, but that's
not what Jack Smith did in this

1153
01:06:21,260 --> 01:06:24,740
case, as you mentioned, Jack
Smith left before original

1154
01:06:24,740 --> 01:06:28,160
charges intact, but he
essentially changed the factual

1155
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,460
predicates underlying those
charges. For instance, he

1156
01:06:31,460 --> 01:06:34,280
removed references to Donald
Trump's conversations with

1157
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,640
Justice Department officials in
the wake of the 2020 election.

1158
01:06:37,940 --> 01:06:40,840
He added some language to make
clear that, in his view certain

1159
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,500
actions Donald Trump took in his
private or political capacities

1160
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,880
rather than in his official
capacity. And he also added some

1161
01:06:48,940 --> 01:06:52,420
additional language relevant to
some of the other charges,

1162
01:06:52,420 --> 01:06:56,020
again, trying to emphasize that
those were private rather than

1163
01:06:56,020 --> 01:06:59,500
official acts. And the reason
Jack Smith took these actions,

1164
01:06:59,500 --> 01:07:01,860
the reason he made these
amendments is to try to get

1165
01:07:01,860 --> 01:07:06,780
around the immunity that the US
Supreme Court recently released,

1166
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,240
where the Court said that
presidents, including Donald

1167
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:13,500
Trump, are immune from
prosecution for actually taking

1168
01:07:13,500 --> 01:07:16,080
their official capacity while in
office.

1169
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,560
Adam Curry: So I have an
analysis from our constitutional

1170
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:26,480
lawyer, Rob Rob, who read, who
read everything, and I shall

1171
01:07:26,540 --> 01:07:30,500
read this for us right now. It's
relatively short. Under the

1172
01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:34,220
SCOTUS ruling, the charges can't
go forward unless Smith can show

1173
01:07:34,220 --> 01:07:38,300
that the alleged conduct is
either one, an unofficial Act,

1174
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,040
or two, an official act that
doesn't fall within the outer

1175
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:46,060
perimeter of the President's
official responsibility and is

1176
01:07:46,060 --> 01:07:51,820
not manifestly or palpably
beyond his authority. This is a

1177
01:07:51,820 --> 01:07:55,180
difficult burden for Smith to
satisfy. The outer perimeter

1178
01:07:55,180 --> 01:07:58,480
beyond his authority. Language
captures a vast range of

1179
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,620
presidential conduct. This is
all as per the Supreme Court, so

1180
01:08:01,620 --> 01:08:04,860
it will be very likely, so it
will very likely encompass the

1181
01:08:04,860 --> 01:08:07,620
conduct alleged in the new
indictment. To the extent it

1182
01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:11,160
does, the courts must presume
that Trump is immune, and Smith

1183
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,460
will have to overcome that
presumption, according to rob, a

1184
01:08:14,460 --> 01:08:17,580
very tall order. And remember,
there's still the lingering

1185
01:08:17,580 --> 01:08:21,560
issue raised by Justice Thomas
that Jack Smith appointment is

1186
01:08:21,620 --> 01:08:24,680
invalid under Article two
appointments clause, because

1187
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,820
there's no law that establishes
Smith's office. If Trump wins

1188
01:08:28,820 --> 01:08:31,940
the election, this case will
die. DOJ doesn't prosecute

1189
01:08:31,940 --> 01:08:35,060
sitting presidents as a matter
of policy. And one thing he

1190
01:08:35,060 --> 01:08:39,080
says, Would you keep in mind, if
the M 5m and Dames and Dems

1191
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,280
claim that this is a nail in
Trump's coffin, they will have

1192
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,940
to simultaneously retreat from
their incompatible claim that

1193
01:08:45,940 --> 01:08:49,480
SCOTUS gave Trump total freedom
to do whatever he does or

1194
01:08:49,480 --> 01:08:55,240
whatever he wants to do. So this
is really all this is. Is just a

1195
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:59,920
setup for questions during the
debate. That's all that this is.

1196
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:02,580
That's why Trump immediately
started fundraising off of it,

1197
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:08,640
as witnessed by another 8
million text messages. Yeah,

1198
01:09:08,700 --> 01:09:09,840
it's really just

1199
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,420
John C Dvorak: so late. Yes,
these are on a phone that you

1200
01:09:12,420 --> 01:09:15,660
carry with you. For summary,
you're carrying a phone around

1201
01:09:15,660 --> 01:09:16,800
wherever you go.

1202
01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:27,199
Adam Curry: It's just, it's just
a text number. Yeah, so this is

1203
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:29,419
it's all just about this debate.

1204
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,760
John C Dvorak: Can you call
back, by the way, when they send

1205
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,060
you one of these messages? Let
me see that's very calling. I

1206
01:09:35,060 --> 01:09:37,400
would call them back. Say hello.
You keep sending me these

1207
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,240
messages. You want to talk?
That's

1208
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,480
Adam Curry: a very good
question. Let me see this is an

1209
01:09:43,480 --> 01:09:49,420
alert from Donald Trump. Okay, I
was just indicted again. Please

1210
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,200
read my response to Special
Counsel. No, I'm not going to

1211
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,300
read them to call him back.
Let's see if I'm going to call

1212
01:09:55,780 --> 01:09:56,560
and not in

1213
01:09:57,940 --> 01:10:00,060
Unknown: service. Please check
the number and dial again. Oh,

1214
01:10:00,060 --> 01:10:00,540
it's

1215
01:10:00,540 --> 01:10:04,620
Adam Curry: not a service. Let's
try another one. Let's because I

1216
01:10:04,620 --> 01:10:07,620
have a lot from President Trump.
This is Donald Trump Jr. Let's

1217
01:10:07,620 --> 01:10:09,300
call Junior. Let's see what
Junior give

1218
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:10,920
John C Dvorak: him a call, see
what he says. To say,

1219
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:19,500
Adam Curry: oh, disconnected
right away. Let me see from

1220
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:25,040
Trump, who's asking for $10
let's see and invalid number.

1221
01:10:25,100 --> 01:10:29,300
Now this is all, wait a minute,
it's a 213, number two. You're

1222
01:10:29,300 --> 01:10:32,840
John C Dvorak: giving getting
phone calls, a message, phone

1223
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,200
calls, in other words, the
message through a phone, and you

1224
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,440
call the number, and the number
is bogus. Wait, here's this is.

1225
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:43,240
This is no different than a
number from Taiwan, China,

1226
01:10:43,300 --> 01:10:45,820
Philippines, India. Bombay, hey,

1227
01:10:45,820 --> 01:10:48,040
Adam Curry: let's call Rand
Paul. Let's see what he has to

1228
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:53,260
say. He's in Virginia. Oh, no.
Oh, invalid number. Okay. Oh,

1229
01:10:53,260 --> 01:10:57,640
gee. Isn't that crazy? Well, I
can't even hang if

1230
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,500
John C Dvorak: you can't call
him back, why would you send him

1231
01:10:59,500 --> 01:11:01,860
money? It sounds like you don't
know who it is you're sending

1232
01:11:01,860 --> 01:11:04,560
to. Could be anybody? Could be
anybody?

1233
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,180
Adam Curry: Ah, yes, yes,

1234
01:11:09,180 --> 01:11:12,060
John C Dvorak: yes. Well, yeah,
welcome to the modern era.

1235
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,840
Adam Curry: Yes, Hey, um, I got
a interesting clip here from our

1236
01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:19,980
from our buddy, Becky Worley,
have you spoken to Becky

1237
01:11:19,980 --> 01:11:20,580
recently?

1238
01:11:20,940 --> 01:11:22,760
John C Dvorak: No, I should have
lunch with her. I usually, I

1239
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,280
used to have lunch with her once
a year. Yeah, but she's in LA,

1240
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,940
isn't she? No, she used the
peninsula, as far as I know, and

1241
01:11:28,940 --> 01:11:29,900
then she moved. You

1242
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:31,940
Adam Curry: need to go up there.
You need to go visit her and the

1243
01:11:31,940 --> 01:11:32,420
kids.

1244
01:11:34,820 --> 01:11:36,620
John C Dvorak: It's not up, is
down? Oh,

1245
01:11:36,620 --> 01:11:41,980
Adam Curry: she go down there.
Go down to Becky Worley, I've

1246
01:11:41,980 --> 01:11:45,040
always liked Becky Worley. I
mean, I, I always feel sad

1247
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:49,120
because she is nothing like the
stupid reports they make her do.

1248
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,180
But she, you know, she's playing
the game. She got kids and a

1249
01:11:52,180 --> 01:11:54,400
wife and, you know, she's got a,
yeah, she

1250
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,040
John C Dvorak: is a She's a hard
worker. She's good at what she

1251
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,960
does. She's always was behind.
She was a producer. Originally,

1252
01:12:01,380 --> 01:12:05,820
always behind. I first met her
when she was MSNBC, when it was

1253
01:12:05,820 --> 01:12:10,260
a different kind of network, and
she was always the producer of

1254
01:12:10,260 --> 01:12:14,040
shows. And then she but she had
the look and feel of a person

1255
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:18,120
who had front of camera. She was
good looking on camera. She's

1256
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:19,560
photo telegenic. She

1257
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,920
Adam Curry: is she's a little
harsh in person, little more

1258
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:26,960
well, what is the that's not the
right word harsh? Maybe it is

1259
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:27,560
the right word.

1260
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,900
John C Dvorak: She's a good
looking woman in person. Yes,

1261
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,660
Adam Curry: he's not like Jamie
Raskin now,

1262
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,200
John C Dvorak: but she's
telegenic, and she's very good

1263
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,960
on the on the on the camera. I
guess she's always felt that

1264
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,200
way. So she once she got then
the other side of the camera.

1265
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,580
She stopped doing producing,
from what I can tell, and she's

1266
01:12:46,420 --> 01:12:49,420
she's good. I think she's very
talented. She's personable.

1267
01:12:49,480 --> 01:12:52,240
Adam Curry: Well, I think she is
adding something to the hair and

1268
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:57,040
hookers report for the economy,
and it's something I have not

1269
01:12:57,100 --> 01:13:01,380
yet asked the Zoomer about. But
I take this to be very credible

1270
01:13:01,380 --> 01:13:02,520
luxury or

1271
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,160
Unknown: affordability, right?
But what if you could have them

1272
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:09,120
both? That's the premise fueling
a rise in Gen Z and millennials

1273
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:13,500
shopping for so called dupes
instead of brand name goods. But

1274
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:17,880
what's the downside? As we all
search for value this morning,

1275
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:22,160
influencers are touting so
called dupes with pride. Don't

1276
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:22,340
go

1277
01:13:22,340 --> 01:13:25,580
buy leggings for that much money
when you can get these for half

1278
01:13:25,580 --> 01:13:26,660
the price. It's

1279
01:13:26,660 --> 01:13:30,800
the same product. It's the same
it's the same thing.

1280
01:13:30,860 --> 01:13:33,860
It's always really fun to find a
really great, affordable

1281
01:13:33,860 --> 01:13:36,020
alternative to something,
because you're helping your

1282
01:13:36,020 --> 01:13:38,000
friends out, and you can tell
them, like, hey, you've been

1283
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,260
using this, here's this. And
then they can put more money

1284
01:13:41,260 --> 01:13:43,180
towards bills instead of
foundation

1285
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,060
and a path here has a series on
our socials where she breaks

1286
01:13:46,060 --> 01:13:49,660
down the active ingredients in
high end products and shows less

1287
01:13:49,660 --> 01:13:52,300
expensive options with the same
components. So

1288
01:13:52,300 --> 01:13:55,900
is everything that's highlighted
in yellow here is also

1289
01:13:55,900 --> 01:13:57,880
highlighted in yellow here.
Saving

1290
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,800
money on items is now becoming
something that's a little bit in

1291
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,700
vogue. It's cool to be wearing
something that is less

1292
01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:06,960
expensive, but looks

1293
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,840
like the expensive brand. And
Herzog, who wrote a book on

1294
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,260
counterfeit, says these so
called do products are different

1295
01:14:13,260 --> 01:14:15,000
from illegal knockoffs.

1296
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:20,360
A do product doesn't necessarily
mean counterfeit. What it does

1297
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:26,420
mean is that it is a similar
product, but less expensive than

1298
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:29,120
the original product. When
you're talking about a

1299
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,960
counterfeit item, you're talking
about an item that's pretending

1300
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,980
to be like the original item,
down to the name of the item.

1301
01:14:36,980 --> 01:14:37,160
But

1302
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,960
experts do say buying these
products brings up other issues

1303
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:42,520
worth considering. Dupes

1304
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,820
do not come with extended
warranties. You have a very

1305
01:14:45,820 --> 01:14:49,060
specific time that you need to
return that in. This

1306
01:14:49,060 --> 01:14:54,820
Adam Curry: is, this is what the
shop influencers are doing. And

1307
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,000
let's just face it, everything
comes from China here,

1308
01:14:58,060 --> 01:15:00,660
everything we buy in America,
pretty much. Everything comes

1309
01:15:00,660 --> 01:15:04,380
from China, and you can get the
exact same product, and they're

1310
01:15:04,380 --> 01:15:08,400
not talking about brands like
Gucci, but everything else from

1311
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:12,420
the from the makeup products,
which I looked it up the Amazon

1312
01:15:12,420 --> 01:15:16,320
influencer program. Number one
is games, online games. You can

1313
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,480
get 20% VIG on the games. Right
after that, it's beauty and

1314
01:15:20,480 --> 01:15:24,980
makeup products, which is a big
deal on the Instagram, as you

1315
01:15:24,980 --> 01:15:29,600
know, all the makeup tip
influencers. And I think that

1316
01:15:30,020 --> 01:15:32,720
this is an interesting
development, and it goes right

1317
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:38,240
along with the lab grown
diamonds. It's all part of the

1318
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:42,880
same thing. We got a note from
Jessica who used to work in the

1319
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,500
diamond industry, and she says,
lab grown diamonds are a great

1320
01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:50,140
way to sell jewelry to people
who cannot afford the price tag

1321
01:15:50,140 --> 01:15:52,540
of natural diamonds. They're
also a good way for jewelers to

1322
01:15:52,540 --> 01:15:56,140
make money, as you can slap a
huge markup to a lab grown and

1323
01:15:56,140 --> 01:15:59,080
it will still still come out
cheaper than the real thing. She

1324
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,520
says, however people discover
when they get divorced and try

1325
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,880
to sell their lab grown diamond
back to a jewelry shop, it's

1326
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:13,800
basically worthless. It makes
nothing but sense. Makes nothing

1327
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,460
but sense. So we're just living
in this fantasy land of

1328
01:16:17,460 --> 01:16:20,120
expensive products, which you
don't really need to buy. The

1329
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,720
expense. You're the king of
this. We should do tips on

1330
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,360
dupes. A dupe tip. Well, I've

1331
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,580
John C Dvorak: always been a fan
of these things. Of course,

1332
01:16:28,580 --> 01:16:35,000
you're a frugal man, and I have,
well, for good reason, yeah, and

1333
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:39,500
I've always had been a fan of
the Canal Street counterfeit

1334
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:44,740
watch business. Is not what it
once was gone. It's gone. It's

1335
01:16:44,740 --> 01:16:50,500
gone. But my favorite
counterfeit watch, and I became

1336
01:16:50,500 --> 01:16:53,020
pretty good at spotting other
people who have counterfeit

1337
01:16:53,020 --> 01:16:55,600
watches. I've gone out to dinner
with Bishop. Do you think you

1338
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,480
know you're kind of an expert on
this? Is this watch that my my

1339
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:01,020
mother in law gave me? Is this a
real Rolex?

1340
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,920
Adam Curry: Well, that's
counterfeit. That's not a dupe.

1341
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,120
That's a counterfeit.

1342
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,160
John C Dvorak: Yes, it
counterfeits. It counterfeits

1343
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,640
are a part of the I see. But say
poo, poo counterfeits. No,

1344
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,820
Adam Curry: no, it's it. I
believe, I think, like you, that

1345
01:17:14,820 --> 01:17:18,780
a lot of especially when it
comes to bags, handbags, for

1346
01:17:18,780 --> 01:17:23,480
sure, it's all from the same
factory. It's stuff.

1347
01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:28,160
John C Dvorak: I went to Korea
one year, and I just areas where

1348
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:32,660
you can get these, what use,
bags, bags. And they had Eddie

1349
01:17:32,660 --> 01:17:36,980
Bauer bags for that. I know that
well. There's a blast from the

1350
01:17:36,980 --> 01:17:41,020
past. It was, it was a while
ago, is Eddie Bowers, these

1351
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:44,020
Eddie Bower bags, and they were
beautiful, and they had the

1352
01:17:44,020 --> 01:17:46,840
logo. Everything was there. And
I realized a lot of this stuff

1353
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,840
that you get from these
counterfeiters is not really

1354
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:56,440
counterfeit. It's end of run 10
run, yes, they over produce.

1355
01:17:57,220 --> 01:18:01,020
They over produce. They get an
order for for 10,000 they crank

1356
01:18:01,020 --> 01:18:03,540
it up, and then they can't stop
the line fast enough, and

1357
01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:06,540
there's an extra 1000 to fall
off the back. What do we do with

1358
01:18:06,540 --> 01:18:14,100
these? So they sell them at cost
or twice cost, like so instead

1359
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:18,240
of 50 bucks for the bag, is 10
or $8 but

1360
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,840
Adam Curry: now you're seeing
that the brands, the the

1361
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:25,460
companies that advertise on
television, they have a problem.

1362
01:18:25,460 --> 01:18:30,020
I'm surprised that Becky even
was allowed to do this, this

1363
01:18:30,020 --> 01:18:35,300
particular item that she did,
because it's going to cut into

1364
01:18:35,300 --> 01:18:38,240
these huge, luxurious brands the

1365
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,980
John C Dvorak: margins. Yeah,
yes, those guys make mar the

1366
01:18:41,980 --> 01:18:44,620
margin is their game. Oh, man,

1367
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,740
Adam Curry: you know, when my
first wife had had a cosmetics

1368
01:18:47,740 --> 01:18:51,400
company, the only reason I
agreed to it is one to shut her

1369
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,560
up, and the second, well,
there's two reasons. The second

1370
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,820
was the margins were incredible.
It's just goop. You know, you

1371
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,260
like eyebrow pencils. It all
comes from one factory in

1372
01:19:01,260 --> 01:19:03,600
Germany, or at least back in the
day, I don't know if Germany

1373
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:08,940
produces anything anymore, the
men Schwan pencils. This where

1374
01:19:08,940 --> 01:19:12,600
you get all your pencils,
including your H, 2h b2, pencil,

1375
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,660
everything. It all comes from
one factory, and it's all about

1376
01:19:15,660 --> 01:19:19,200
the packaging. It's all about
packaging. That's where the

1377
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,520
that's where you mark it up.
We're living in a fake world.

1378
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:31,760
John, we are. It's fake. It's
phony, and it's only it's only a

1379
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,840
matter of time until they call
compounded GLP ones dupes.

1380
01:19:36,380 --> 01:19:38,900
They're already trying to make
it look like it's counterfeit

1381
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,680
because, oh, we can't cut. It's
the same thing. We

1382
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,320
John C Dvorak: can't cut into
the margin. Chemical. A chemical

1383
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:49,420
is a chemical. Yes, sodium
chloride is salt. No matter how

1384
01:19:49,420 --> 01:19:51,820
you cut it, that's right, no
matter how you make it, no

1385
01:19:51,820 --> 01:19:55,360
matter how you let it evaporate
from the water, no matter how

1386
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:59,680
you get get sodium chloride,
it's still sodium chloride.

1387
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,720
Adam Curry: It. I'm laughing at
the troll room. The world is

1388
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:08,160
fake and gay. Okay, well, you
summed it up. There you go. And

1389
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:12,300
And just to prove these margins
how crazy it is and the fake

1390
01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:17,220
world we're living in which you
can opt out of, Eli Lilly made a

1391
01:20:17,220 --> 01:20:19,320
nice, interesting move the other
day.

1392
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:19,980
Unknown: Tonight, the drug

1393
01:20:19,980 --> 01:20:22,760
maker Eli Lilly is making its
popular weight loss drug,

1394
01:20:22,820 --> 01:20:25,580
zeppbound more affordable for
anyone whose insurance won't

1395
01:20:25,580 --> 01:20:29,180
cover it. Zeppbound will now be
sold on the ELI Willy website

1396
01:20:29,180 --> 01:20:32,780
with a prescription. The cost is
about half of the retail price.

1397
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,620
Adam Curry: This half. Why is it
half? This,

1398
01:20:36,620 --> 01:20:38,960
John C Dvorak: of course, is not
for still making money. Yes,

1399
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:39,200
this

1400
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,380
Adam Curry: is not for people
with insurance. This is for

1401
01:20:41,380 --> 01:20:44,500
people who whose insurance won't
cover it, and all of a sudden

1402
01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:47,740
it's half but okay, let's put it
on Medicare so everybody else

1403
01:20:47,740 --> 01:20:55,420
can pay for it at full price,
price, full markup. Maybe one

1404
01:20:55,420 --> 01:20:59,200
day people will catch on, I
don't know. No, no, no. That's

1405
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,800
John C Dvorak: not gonna work.
That's not even possible if they

1406
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:06,060
listen to this podcast. Well,
we'll have a million people that

1407
01:21:06,180 --> 01:21:08,940
kind of catch on. But even so,
we've noticed, even though

1408
01:21:08,940 --> 01:21:13,560
listeners to our podcast, the
producers, every so often they

1409
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,200
come up with some note that they
send us, that they've they've

1410
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:21,080
locked they've been hook, line
and sinker, into some scam of

1411
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:25,040
some sort that you know, you
hope that they were would be

1412
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,700
immune to, based on what we keep
saying. Do you have an example?

1413
01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:29,000
No, do

1414
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,200
Adam Curry: you have an example?
I

1415
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:31,880
John C Dvorak: don't have one
off the top of my head, but it

1416
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:32,840
happens all the time.

1417
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:34,460
Unknown: It's sad.

1418
01:21:35,780 --> 01:21:39,140
John C Dvorak: It's just not
you, you can't beat you can't

1419
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:44,440
beat back mainstream media and
its brow beating of the public.

1420
01:21:44,500 --> 01:21:44,740
Well,

1421
01:21:44,740 --> 01:21:47,920
Adam Curry: it is slowly, slowly
disintegrate. No, it's

1422
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:52,420
John C Dvorak: not you. You're a
dreamer. You're a you're the

1423
01:21:52,420 --> 01:21:53,260
idealist.

1424
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,760
Adam Curry: I have hope. I have
at least 10 more years of hope

1425
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:02,160
on you. That's why I'm still in
that hope phase. Good luck. And

1426
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,200
with that, I'd like to thank you
for your courage. Say in the

1427
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,140
morning to you, the man who put
the sea in corn sweat, say hello

1428
01:22:07,140 --> 01:22:09,960
to my friend on the other end,
the one and only. Mr. Jones,

1429
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:10,140
good

1430
01:22:13,740 --> 01:22:15,540
John C Dvorak: morning. You. Mr.
M curry, in the morning, all

1431
01:22:15,540 --> 01:22:17,880
ships and sea blues from the
ground, feeding the air subs in

1432
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,180
the water, and all the Dames and
nights out there. Oh, let

1433
01:22:20,180 --> 01:22:22,580
Adam Curry: me check this out.
This is very odd. The troll

1434
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:24,860
Unknown: count seems to be low.
Count. We

1435
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,980
Adam Curry: must have the corn
sweat has devoured them. 1870

1436
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,980
seems low for a Thursday, don't
we usually have more on a

1437
01:22:33,980 --> 01:22:34,580
Thursday?

1438
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,100
John C Dvorak: No, we usually
have 1700

1439
01:22:37,940 --> 01:22:40,660
Adam Curry: Let me see. Oh, you,
I'm sorry, you're right. Let me

1440
01:22:40,660 --> 01:22:47,320
see now the last the last
Thursday, was 1889 Oh, you're

1441
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,280
right. No, it's about right. I'm
sorry, you're right. 1870 so

1442
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:55,000
we're on par. Hey, trolls. How
you doing? Are you corn sweating

1443
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,340
in that troll room? You can join
them, by the way. But going to

1444
01:22:57,340 --> 01:23:03,240
trollroom.io. You can listen to
the no agenda stream, 24/7 live,

1445
01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:08,640
huh? So some you know, we're on
tune in. You know the app tune

1446
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:14,340
in? No, I don't it's a streaming
radio app, and you can use tune

1447
01:23:14,340 --> 01:23:18,720
in to listen to radio streams
from radio stations. And the no

1448
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,500
agenda stream is on there. It's
been on there. That's good for a

1449
01:23:21,500 --> 01:23:24,740
long, long time. Yeah, that's
good. But when you tap on it,

1450
01:23:24,740 --> 01:23:28,160
because I have it in the car,
this for some reason, and that

1451
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:32,000
it has it, you can get Sirius XM
and tune in. Okay, so I listened

1452
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:36,440
to tune in, and it starts off
with two ads. Oh, they're just

1453
01:23:36,440 --> 01:23:38,180
jacking ads in front of stuff.

1454
01:23:38,780 --> 01:23:39,380
John C Dvorak: Yeah,

1455
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:43,300
Adam Curry: that's lame. All
right? This, this, it's a

1456
01:23:43,300 --> 01:23:47,440
ripoff, so don't use tune in to
rip off or Spotify. It's a

1457
01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:47,980
ripple. What?

1458
01:23:47,980 --> 01:23:50,680
John C Dvorak: What is the best
way to listen to the no agenda

1459
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,540
show in the car? Well, you're
dreaming.

1460
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,300
Adam Curry: You could. There's
two ways. I would suggest you

1461
01:23:55,300 --> 01:23:58,840
get a modern podcast app,
because not only will you be

1462
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,380
driving in the car and all
sudden, bloop, it'll alert you

1463
01:24:01,440 --> 01:24:04,500
through your Android Auto or
your car play, or if you just

1464
01:24:04,500 --> 01:24:07,320
have your phone with you and
it's connected to Bluetooth, and

1465
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,560
the modern podcast app will say,
hey, no agenda. Show is live.

1466
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,140
You tap on it's the same place
you get your podcast, and it

1467
01:24:13,140 --> 01:24:17,220
starts playing. Now, we do not
recommend you enter the troll

1468
01:24:17,220 --> 01:24:21,140
room while driving. You can,
but, you know, we don't

1469
01:24:21,140 --> 01:24:26,000
recommend it, but you can use
trollroom.io, to get in, log in,

1470
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,660
make an account, and everything
and and that's where the trolls

1471
01:24:29,660 --> 01:24:32,540
are. Podcast apps.com, you know,
if you want to continue to

1472
01:24:32,540 --> 01:24:36,260
listen to your favorite podcasts
before they get jacked and you

1473
01:24:36,260 --> 01:24:41,620
get all those great new
features, unlike everybody else,

1474
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,400
like the Kelsey brothers. Holy
Mo. Did you hear this nonsense?

1475
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,180
This, this promotional bull
crap? I'm going to play it for

1476
01:24:49,180 --> 01:24:49,840
you. New

1477
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,780
Unknown: f1 32 Kelsey brothers
are taking their new heights

1478
01:24:52,780 --> 01:24:56,500
podcast to new heights
financially. Jason and Travis

1479
01:24:56,500 --> 01:24:59,920
Kelsey signed a new deal with
Amazon's wondery. That is.

1480
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,260
Worth, reportedly, $100 million
over three years. The brothers

1481
01:25:04,260 --> 01:25:06,660
said they are excited about the
partnership and are thrilled to

1482
01:25:06,660 --> 01:25:10,440
start season three. The podcast
has been around since 2022 and

1483
01:25:10,440 --> 01:25:13,920
has won multiple awards,
including podcast of the Year at

1484
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,980
the 2024 I heart Podcast Awards.

1485
01:25:17,460 --> 01:25:18,660
Adam Curry: We need an award.

1486
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,800
John C Dvorak: We've gotten
awards. We don't

1487
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,560
Adam Curry: pay to enter
anymore. So we don't get awards,

1488
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,980
because every award show, no,
you have to pay to enter. Yes,

1489
01:25:27,980 --> 01:25:30,680
John C Dvorak: this is a this is
a fact of awards you have to

1490
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:31,820
pay. Yeah,

1491
01:25:31,820 --> 01:25:35,540
Adam Curry: so we don't do that.
What the iHeart Awards? Please.

1492
01:25:35,540 --> 01:25:35,780
I

1493
01:25:35,780 --> 01:25:38,900
John C Dvorak: heard awards for
people that are on I Heart. Yes,

1494
01:25:38,900 --> 01:25:43,660
exactly. Well, also, I never
heard of this podcast, by the

1495
01:25:43,660 --> 01:25:45,640
way, and I like sports. Well,

1496
01:25:45,700 --> 01:25:48,760
Adam Curry: this, if you read
the release carefully, it's the

1497
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,000
same as call her daddy. What
they're saying is,

1498
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:55,540
John C Dvorak: it's so it's all
about blow jobs. It's, it's a

1499
01:25:55,540 --> 01:25:56,560
distribution

1500
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:01,380
Adam Curry: deal. And wondery,
which was purchased by Amazon,

1501
01:26:01,380 --> 01:26:05,700
they will be able to sell ads.
So the deal can be worth up to

1502
01:26:05,940 --> 01:26:10,320
$100 million advertising
Exactly. So they're getting a

1503
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:14,460
minimum guarantee, and I'm not
discounting that most

1504
01:26:14,460 --> 01:26:18,300
advertising money on television
and streaming goes into football

1505
01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:22,580
specifically. So there's a lot,
there's a lot of money that that

1506
01:26:22,580 --> 01:26:26,900
people will put into this, but
it's this. Oh, it's 100 million.

1507
01:26:26,900 --> 01:26:32,360
Oh, podcasting is still doing
great. No, well, podcasting is a

1508
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:33,860
vow of poverty. People

1509
01:26:34,340 --> 01:26:38,000
John C Dvorak: more, more power
to them a and it's no sweat off

1510
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:38,960
my balls. There

1511
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,540
Adam Curry: you go. So instead
of paying to enter awards and

1512
01:26:43,540 --> 01:26:47,320
getting beat up on the football
pitch, John and I decided we'll

1513
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,260
just do podcasts twice a week,
and we'll ask people to support

1514
01:26:50,260 --> 01:26:53,200
us if they think what we do is
worth anything, if we have

1515
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,680
improved your life in any way.
Some people say it helps them.

1516
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,560
Some people say, You know what,
I feel better listening to the

1517
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:03,300
no agenda show because we're
light hearted. We're not so

1518
01:27:03,300 --> 01:27:08,220
serious. I literally saw Megyn
Kelly, boy, I like Megyn Kelly,

1519
01:27:08,220 --> 01:27:14,160
and don't get me wrong, but she
was yelling at Caitlyn, the CNN

1520
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:15,120
lady, yelling.

1521
01:27:15,300 --> 01:27:18,300
John C Dvorak: She was, she was
all emotional on that thing, but

1522
01:27:18,300 --> 01:27:21,080
Adam Curry: she was, she was
yelling, Caitlin, here's a tip,

1523
01:27:21,140 --> 01:27:24,380
smile from time to time. And
this whole rant, she does

1524
01:27:25,700 --> 01:27:29,900
exactly, and she has a beautiful
smile. But will she smile? No,

1525
01:27:30,140 --> 01:27:36,560
it's like Pot, kettle. Hello.
Everyone's unhinged. We're not

1526
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:41,560
unhinged. We're just poor. But
today, value came in in multiple

1527
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,140
ways. The first thing we want to
do is thank our artists, who

1528
01:27:44,140 --> 01:27:47,260
always support us with their
time and their talent. It's part

1529
01:27:47,260 --> 01:27:50,980
of the trifecta time, talents
and treasure, and they support

1530
01:27:50,980 --> 01:27:54,400
us by making artwork that fits
with the show. They're doing it

1531
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,760
during the live show. It's
amazing. They do this in this

1532
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,420
case, in the evening, hours
after dinner, for the Dutch

1533
01:28:00,420 --> 01:28:04,920
masters who were working on
things. And Dutch master, who

1534
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:09,600
lives in Chicago, brought us the
artwork for Episode 1689, and

1535
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:13,620
that was Darren O'Neill with the
ozempic ice cream, which was a

1536
01:28:13,620 --> 01:28:20,160
classic, no agenda product,
comic strip. Blogger right away.

1537
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:25,280
It's like, this is you can do
this. This is not fair use. Yes,

1538
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:25,400
it

1539
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,880
John C Dvorak: is Fair Use about
what did that art be stolen?

1540
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,520
Adam Curry: No, he says, because
you're using the brand name,

1541
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:35,720
ozempic. No, no, no, exactly.
Tell him. Tell him, John,

1542
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,960
John C Dvorak: this is a as a
parody or a humor, and not for

1543
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:45,040
the purposes of of cloning a
product. This is totally legal,

1544
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:45,640
yes,

1545
01:28:45,820 --> 01:28:48,340
Adam Curry: and, and, by the
way, when comic strip blogger

1546
01:28:48,340 --> 01:28:52,060
freaks out is really good art,
then you know it's good art.

1547
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,060
John C Dvorak: Well, he had a
good piece that I thought was

1548
01:28:55,060 --> 01:28:59,380
good, but you hated it, which
was his jazz queen, but I did,

1549
01:28:59,380 --> 01:28:59,800
Adam Curry: no,

1550
01:28:59,860 --> 01:29:01,800
John C Dvorak: I do not hella
pigeus ass.

1551
01:29:01,860 --> 01:29:07,200
Adam Curry: I did not hate it. I
said to you, I would be all for

1552
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:11,460
it if the letters actually look
like they were on the jeans, and

1553
01:29:11,460 --> 01:29:15,420
they just didn't. And you agreed
with me in my hate I

1554
01:29:15,420 --> 01:29:17,760
John C Dvorak: did, yeah,
exactly

1555
01:29:17,820 --> 01:29:22,580
Adam Curry: see with other
pieces are, oh, we haven't said

1556
01:29:22,580 --> 01:29:25,220
the W word yet. There was a tip
jar for that. I don't think

1557
01:29:25,220 --> 01:29:30,440
we're doing quite well. What
else was there? Oh, that's yeah,

1558
01:29:30,440 --> 01:29:34,520
the right. There was a lot of
yes queens, a lot of yes queens,

1559
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,460
yeah. But we're like, yeah. It
was a little overplayed at that

1560
01:29:37,460 --> 01:29:43,540
point. We had kind of done that.
I did like the very demure, very

1561
01:29:43,540 --> 01:29:46,900
mindful cheesecake, but you
thought it was too simple and

1562
01:29:46,900 --> 01:29:50,800
also same. That was a comics or
Blogger piece. But again, the

1563
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:54,280
the letters didn't look they
like they were really on the t

1564
01:29:54,340 --> 01:29:56,560
John C Dvorak: shirt. Weren't
mapped, mapped. Thank they

1565
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,120
weren't surface mapped. No,

1566
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,620
Adam Curry: no, and that's,
that's the

1567
01:29:59,620 --> 01:30:01,740
John C Dvorak: which you. Can do
with Photoshop. I mean, it's

1568
01:30:01,740 --> 01:30:07,800
very easy, but AI, this is all
can't figure it out. How did,

1569
01:30:07,980 --> 01:30:10,620
Adam Curry: how are the earnings
for the for our favorite AI

1570
01:30:10,620 --> 01:30:16,380
company yesterday, all I saw,
yeah, all day. Oh, this.

1571
01:30:16,740 --> 01:30:21,440
Everyone's waiting. Oh, it's
down. It's down five and a half

1572
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:24,020
percent. I guess they didn't do
do so, no, they actually, they

1573
01:30:24,020 --> 01:30:26,600
beat expectations, and people
are still selling.

1574
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,020
John C Dvorak: There's something
going on. Yes, it's

1575
01:30:30,020 --> 01:30:33,440
Adam Curry: called the blow up
of AI nonsense, have you? You

1576
01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:35,540
don't, you don't have chat, GPT,
do you?

1577
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,420
John C Dvorak: I know. I just do
it. If I'm ever going to use it.

1578
01:30:40,420 --> 01:30:41,620
I use it online. Well,

1579
01:30:41,620 --> 01:30:46,360
Adam Curry: here's what you want
to type in and it. I think Elon

1580
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:50,740
Musk has corrected grok on this
one. But if you type in how many

1581
01:30:50,740 --> 01:30:56,200
Rs are in the word strawberry,
every ai i have used, including

1582
01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:00,160
the ones I run here at home, say
there are two Rs in strawberry,

1583
01:31:02,140 --> 01:31:03,660
even though there's clearly
three,

1584
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,280
John C Dvorak: isn't that?
What's the point of this

1585
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:12,120
exercise to prove the AI sucks?
Yes,

1586
01:31:12,180 --> 01:31:14,100
Adam Curry: yes, of course it
is. That means there's no

1587
01:31:14,100 --> 01:31:17,460
intelligence. It's just
splitting

1588
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,380
John C Dvorak: the tool that
grok was fixed just by hand. Oh,

1589
01:31:21,380 --> 01:31:22,940
yeah, of course, it was how you
do it.

1590
01:31:22,940 --> 01:31:24,800
Adam Curry: They will all be
fixed by hand. You have to go

1591
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,860
tweak it, yeah. Where did I
learn about this? On X so, of

1592
01:31:27,860 --> 01:31:31,520
course, you know this is, this
is what you do. You launch,

1593
01:31:31,580 --> 01:31:34,820
John C Dvorak: brought it. You
launched your hand, tweak it,

1594
01:31:34,820 --> 01:31:37,880
and then you point out everyone
else's screw, yeah, exactly,

1595
01:31:37,940 --> 01:31:39,680
exactly called Marketing.

1596
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:40,780
Unknown: Yes, it's good.

1597
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,060
John C Dvorak: It's good because
good marketing.

1598
01:31:44,020 --> 01:31:45,760
Adam Curry: Was there anything
else that we liked? I don't

1599
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,400
think there was much. I don't
think there was anything else

1600
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,560
John C Dvorak: actually was
pretty was pretty lame. It was

1601
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:54,880
demure. I did use, I'm not using
that word that should be banned.

1602
01:31:56,620 --> 01:32:01,260
I did use one piece that was the
girls whispering to each other

1603
01:32:01,260 --> 01:32:02,940
from scaramonga as the

1604
01:32:03,060 --> 01:32:05,700
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, but that
was a good piece for the

1605
01:32:05,700 --> 01:32:08,580
newsletter, because, yeah, it
wasn't, you know, wasn't. Yeah,

1606
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,460
I'm passing some news on. It's
good for a newsletter. Hey,

1607
01:32:11,460 --> 01:32:15,420
listen to this. It's like Betty
and Veronica. These two, the

1608
01:32:15,420 --> 01:32:17,220
scarabanga piece. That's good.

1609
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,220
John C Dvorak: Well, thank you.
Veronica's a brunette and this

1610
01:32:20,220 --> 01:32:21,500
girl's a red details,

1611
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,680
Adam Curry: details, white,
details. Thank you very much.

1612
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:28,160
Darren O'Neill for bringing us
the artwork for Episode 1689, we

1613
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,800
appreciate it. We appreciate the
work that all of our Dutch

1614
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,460
masters do. You guys are awesome
that I don't use that word

1615
01:32:34,460 --> 01:32:37,760
lightly. Anybody can upload art
to no agenda, artgenerator.com,

1616
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,740
it's simple. Go ahead. Try it
out, then you too can be

1617
01:32:41,740 --> 01:32:45,220
excoriated for doing it wrong.
We're happy to do it for you.

1618
01:32:45,820 --> 01:32:51,040
Yeah. Now is valuable. It is
very valuable. Now. Let us thank

1619
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:55,300
our executive and Associate
Executive producers. We ask

1620
01:32:55,300 --> 01:32:58,720
everybody to just send treasure
whatever the show is worth to

1621
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:04,080
you. Value is is very subjective
to your to your own means. So if

1622
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:09,360
that's $5 for a show, that's
fine by us. Anybody can go to no

1623
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:13,680
agenda donations.com. Set up a
sustaining donation. We do like

1624
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:17,160
to thank because we never
continue the program if we

1625
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,840
waited for everybody to support
us with $5 we, in fact, we tried

1626
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:25,040
that 17 years ago almost, and it
didn't work until we said, hey,

1627
01:33:25,100 --> 01:33:27,920
just send us whatever it's worth
to you. And that's why we have

1628
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,980
executive producers $300 and
above. We read your note, and

1629
01:33:30,980 --> 01:33:34,160
Associate Executive Producers
$200 above, and we read your

1630
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,440
note, and you get an official
credit, which you can use

1631
01:33:36,440 --> 01:33:41,260
anywhere credits are recognized.
It includes your LinkedIn

1632
01:33:41,260 --> 01:33:43,660
profile, of course, and your
social media profile, but more

1633
01:33:43,660 --> 01:33:47,320
importantly, imdb.com where
there are over 1000 no agenda

1634
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:52,660
producers, and we kick it off
with he's back. He is back. He

1635
01:33:52,660 --> 01:33:56,980
comes in about once a month,
sironymous of Dog Patch and

1636
01:33:56,980 --> 01:34:06,240
lower slobovia, now normally a
3333 donation would be a

1637
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:13,380
rubbilizer, and he didn't do
3333 he did 3322 which I'm

1638
01:34:13,380 --> 01:34:16,260
presuming includes a couple of
$2 bills, because he always

1639
01:34:16,260 --> 01:34:20,180
sends cash from an undisclosed
location. I'm going to get, I

1640
01:34:20,180 --> 01:34:23,240
believe there was one $2 I'm
gonna give him the rubbilizer

1641
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:29,840
anyway. But he says, John, this
is a long note for you, so you

1642
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:31,220
have to read it. No,

1643
01:34:31,220 --> 01:34:33,740
John C Dvorak: no, that's not
for me to read. He's, he's,

1644
01:34:33,740 --> 01:34:36,920
that's a reference to the fact
that it's extremely long note.

1645
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:38,240
And I hate long notes,

1646
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:42,400
Adam Curry: so that means I have
to read it. Yeah. All right.

1647
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,100
Thank you to all the producers
that support this. By the

1648
01:34:45,100 --> 01:34:47,320
John C Dvorak: way, I should
mention just just as a

1649
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:53,980
historically, he sends in kind
of short and often short notes,

1650
01:34:53,980 --> 01:34:58,120
yes, every once in a while, no
note, and he makes a little

1651
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:02,400
stanza with no note. Money,
these little graphic and then

1652
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:06,300
sometimes reasonable notes. And
I think he's finally built up.

1653
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:10,980
He's been enough credit to do as
long a note as he wants, and

1654
01:35:10,980 --> 01:35:14,520
this is one of them. So that's
not so I'm not objecting to I

1655
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:14,700
will

1656
01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:19,020
Adam Curry: come to his house
and wash his car. Thank you to

1657
01:35:19,020 --> 01:35:20,460
all the producers that support.

1658
01:35:20,460 --> 01:35:22,880
John C Dvorak: By the way, his
car is a rolls. It's got to be

1659
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,020
his must be, including

1660
01:35:24,020 --> 01:35:26,540
Adam Curry: the professional
insight from so many regions and

1661
01:35:26,540 --> 01:35:29,240
professions and the time talent
and treasure that make this a

1662
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:33,080
unique source of insight into
advertisers, safe products and

1663
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:36,620
messages and how advertisers use
different outlets to reach

1664
01:35:36,620 --> 01:35:39,260
different audiences. The Cote
d'Ivoire Consulting Group is

1665
01:35:39,260 --> 01:35:42,520
extremely effective in helping
identify targeted audience just

1666
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:46,420
by sharing the message sources.
Like many Americans, I have

1667
01:35:46,420 --> 01:35:49,540
naturalized US citizen, family
and friends. In my extensive

1668
01:35:49,540 --> 01:35:53,620
travel outside the US over the
past few months, garnered one

1669
01:35:53,620 --> 01:35:58,840
question from both groups,
what's going on? Naturally, I

1670
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:02,040
can hear him saying it that way
too. Naturalized citizens have a

1671
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:05,460
keen perspective of politicized
governments. As many came to the

1672
01:36:05,460 --> 01:36:09,900
US to leave politicized
countries, they are unhappy that

1673
01:36:09,900 --> 01:36:13,260
their work to be US citizens is
being shortcut for political

1674
01:36:13,260 --> 01:36:17,640
purposes. They reinforce the US.
Educational System Programming

1675
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,560
towards social agenda rather
than the three R's. Education is

1676
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,980
creating a less valuable citizen
and workforce, and they include

1677
01:36:24,980 --> 01:36:28,880
their own children as victims as
they seek to be normal Americans

1678
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,540
and seek private education when
possible. Many countries, this

1679
01:36:32,540 --> 01:36:35,420
is important stuff that he's
saying here. This is good. Many

1680
01:36:35,420 --> 01:36:38,960
countries I travel to have
polarized political environments

1681
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:42,160
where violence overcomes
civility in political discourse.

1682
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:46,120
International contacts ask me if
the US is the ideal place to

1683
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,940
send their children to be
educated and gain citizenship.

1684
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:52,360
They see the leading global
economy and military superpower

1685
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:56,500
moving towards a Caligula like
society like the one they left.

1686
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:02,100
Take note, people, because where
are we going to escape to the

1687
01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:05,460
two wars underway have far
greater impact than seems to

1688
01:37:05,460 --> 01:37:08,640
garner attention in the US.
Global trade is more affected

1689
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:12,720
outside the US. Covid taught us
the term supply chain issues to

1690
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:16,800
justify delays and higher costs,
no agenda listeners already know

1691
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,860
grain exports from Ukraine,
Russia to Africa is causing

1692
01:37:19,860 --> 01:37:24,620
severe issues and starvation.
China is a leading exporter of

1693
01:37:24,620 --> 01:37:27,860
goods to the Suez Canal and is
severely impacted by the Houthi

1694
01:37:27,860 --> 01:37:31,340
Red Sea attacks of goods to the
Suez Canal and is severely

1695
01:37:31,340 --> 01:37:35,180
impacted by the Houthi Red Sea
attacks the defense industrial

1696
01:37:35,180 --> 01:37:39,560
base, which he says, dib of non
US actors are more aggressive

1697
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:44,020
than the often maligned us, dib
participants, drone and missile

1698
01:37:44,020 --> 01:37:48,040
manufacturing outside the US is
far beyond us capability, and

1699
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:53,980
while less sophisticated, using
dos level attacks will overwhelm

1700
01:37:53,980 --> 01:37:58,060
so called Iron Dome defenses,
and both sides know it.

1701
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:04,200
Hezbollah has 150,000 missiles
AI, as in actual intelligence.

1702
01:38:04,260 --> 01:38:08,880
Ooh, nice. Sees non US, defense
industrial base pushing a more

1703
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:13,680
aggressive agenda than us. Dibs,
unlike us, moral values these

1704
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:18,480
countries do not value of lives
as Americans us, military is

1705
01:38:18,480 --> 01:38:21,860
working to learn what others are
experiencing and working to

1706
01:38:21,860 --> 01:38:24,620
adapt to these wars, but our
political leaders remain

1707
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:28,760
oblivious to the reality of
these wars. How much leadership?

1708
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:33,860
How much will leadership cause
US citizens to suffer, either to

1709
01:38:33,860 --> 01:38:37,580
prepare for war, or suffer
before surrender? If you believe

1710
01:38:37,580 --> 01:38:41,560
history rhymes, the Treaty of
Versailles, a concise history by

1711
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:45,940
Nyberg. It's about 100 pages. Is
an interesting book of poetry

1712
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:52,060
for today's events. No jingles,
no karma. And then he parked his

1713
01:38:52,060 --> 01:38:57,940
roles as a good note, something
to listen to, because, you know

1714
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:00,900
he's saying, He's saying real
stuff. Here you should have, you

1715
01:39:00,900 --> 01:39:02,100
should do a podcast.

1716
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,420
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, he
does one. I'm

1717
01:39:06,420 --> 01:39:08,640
Adam Curry: gonna, I'm gonna
give him ours. He just did one.

1718
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:09,420
I'm gonna give

1719
01:39:10,260 --> 01:39:11,580
Unknown: him a hang out.

1720
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:19,140
Mike, standby, 3333 33
rubbilizer

1721
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,380
Adam Curry: out there you go.
Rubbilizer, jingle for

1722
01:39:21,380 --> 01:39:24,080
astronomers of Dog Patch and
Lois lobovia, thank you, as

1723
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,020
always, for coming in to save
our month

1724
01:39:29,300 --> 01:39:34,160
John C Dvorak: a Zarin Dental in
Port Townsend, Washington, cute

1725
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:40,660
little town, if ever there was
530 if I add up other donations,

1726
01:39:40,660 --> 01:39:45,100
I should be at night in the
night area. Can I just be night

1727
01:39:45,100 --> 01:39:51,880
Z, uh or Nido? Do I need a weird
name? Night z is perfect, yeah.

1728
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:57,700
Night Z. Listening to you two
keeps me sane. And are you're

1729
01:39:57,700 --> 01:40:02,220
the best five to six hours of my
week. Huh? I'm hitting as many

1730
01:40:02,220 --> 01:40:03,960
people in the mouth as I can.

1731
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:08,760
Adam Curry: Well, beautiful.
Thank you, and you, Aaron will

1732
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:14,880
be night Z later today, Dame,
foreign lady before dakula,

1733
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:23,000
Georgia. Dacula, dekula. Dacula,
470 and one cent, dear Johan and

1734
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,360
Adam. It says, Here it says,
Johan, Johan. Yeah. Hello,

1735
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:29,840
Johan. ITM gentlemen. Very
pleased to enclose a check to

1736
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:33,680
you for 470 and one cent. This
amount brings me not only an

1737
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:37,820
executive producership For my
76th birthday on September 2,

1738
01:40:38,180 --> 01:40:41,320
but takes me to the next tier of
damehood, whatever level comes

1739
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:45,700
after Baroness, which is what is
after Baroness, Viscountess,

1740
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:49,660
Viscountess, maybe I have also
recently moved and would like to

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01:40:49,660 --> 01:40:52,300
request a change to my
protectorate, if it pleases the

1742
01:40:52,300 --> 01:40:55,300
peerage committee. I would like
the protectorate of Old Town,

1743
01:40:55,300 --> 01:40:58,840
Grayson, in northeast Georgia.
We have checked it's all good.

1744
01:40:59,140 --> 01:41:01,800
Thank you both for what you
continue to do? No jingles, just

1745
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:05,400
some r2, d2, karma for all the
producers. Cheers, Dame,

1746
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:09,360
foreign, Lady before and what
does she say here at the bottom,

1747
01:41:10,140 --> 01:41:13,680
he says, PS, John, I typed this
for easier reading. Love you

1748
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:13,980
both.

1749
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:20,160
Unknown: You've got karma.

1750
01:41:22,860 --> 01:41:25,040
John C Dvorak: T, see all these
complaints of mine always pay

1751
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:30,260
off with people, yeah, big time
making big payment. Big payoff.

1752
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:37,340
Big payoff, payoff. Mark, we
have, was it? Mark, yeah. Mark,

1753
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:44,920
goall, yeah, in Guelph, Ontario,
Canada, is it Guelph? Do we know

1754
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:47,080
how to pronounce this? Yes,
Guelph. Sounds good to me.

1755
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:51,220
Guelph. So could be Guelph 350
58 No, no, no, nothing. So he

1756
01:41:51,220 --> 01:41:52,480
gets a double up, karma. Yeah,

1757
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:53,260
Adam Curry: he does indeed.

1758
01:41:53,740 --> 01:41:54,520
Unknown: You've got

1759
01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:01,440
Adam Curry: karma. Kathy Knight
is in Mesa, Arizona, the 333 dot

1760
01:42:01,440 --> 01:42:04,680
33 our last executive producer
for the show. ITM I appreciate

1761
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:08,280
you too so much. I'm chipping in
to do my part so you can

1762
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:11,640
continue providing us with the
best podcast in the universe.

1763
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:14,940
Thank you for your courage. No
jingles, no karma. Sincerely.

1764
01:42:15,180 --> 01:42:17,940
Kathy Knight, Thank you, Kathy
Knight, we appreciate it. And

1765
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,900
John C Dvorak: speaking of the
devil, rob the constitutional

1766
01:42:20,900 --> 01:42:29,060
lawyer in spring branch Texas
comes in with two $11.23 rob the

1767
01:42:29,060 --> 01:42:34,280
constitutional lawyer here says,
Happy Birthday, Adam. Oh, thank

1768
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:37,700
you as a sex, sex a generic

1769
01:42:39,140 --> 01:42:42,820
Adam Curry: sex, sex sex a
generic Yes,

1770
01:42:42,820 --> 01:42:44,800
John C Dvorak: I'd have to look,
look into that. I'm

1771
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:45,760
Adam Curry: chicken wing. Maybe
he's

1772
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:49,480
John C Dvorak: talking about you
being sexy. Yes, you now qualify

1773
01:42:49,480 --> 01:42:56,260
for free legal advice at many
Elder Law clinics, but stay

1774
01:42:56,260 --> 01:43:01,380
young. Visit Rob dot lawyer
instead. Yes, that's the URL,

1775
01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:07,680
Rob dot lawyer, we fight for you
and Gitmo nation. And

1776
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,980
Adam Curry: he, he asked me
privately, since it didn't fit

1777
01:43:10,980 --> 01:43:15,000
in the message, if I could add
his usual open up Adam curry

1778
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:19,140
jingle and karma to ward off
Jack Smith and his overzealous

1779
01:43:19,140 --> 01:43:21,920
ilk. Mr. Adam curry

1780
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:27,920
Unknown: now you've got karma.

1781
01:43:30,140 --> 01:43:32,600
Adam Curry: Eli, the coffee guy
is next. We're in his executive

1782
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,480
or Associate Executive producers
here. He's from bensonville,

1783
01:43:35,480 --> 01:43:39,920
Illinois, 208, 29 over the
weekend, I met an awesome fellow

1784
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:44,020
producer at the farmers market,
he says she echoed the same

1785
01:43:44,020 --> 01:43:46,900
sentiment that so many producers
I've spoken to have shared.

1786
01:43:47,140 --> 01:43:50,560
Those who listened to no agenda
through covid Say you guys

1787
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,560
helped keep her saying amid the
media madness, well, we hope we

1788
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:57,100
continue to do that, because
it's only crazier now. Thank

1789
01:43:57,100 --> 01:44:00,100
you. For those who only listened
to no agenda for the past few

1790
01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:02,820
years, I suggest going into the
archives and checking out the

1791
01:44:02,820 --> 01:44:07,260
2016 election shows history
doesn't often repeat itself, but

1792
01:44:07,260 --> 01:44:11,220
it does indeed rhyme. Can I get
a Don't be a night denier jingle

1793
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,640
for and for producers that can't
visit us at a local farmers

1794
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:19,500
market, visit gigawatt Coffee
roasters.com and use code ITM 20

1795
01:44:19,500 --> 01:44:23,600
for 20% off your online order,
stay caffeinated, says Eli the

1796
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:24,440
coffee guide,

1797
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:30,740
Unknown: the science is in
science.

1798
01:44:32,300 --> 01:44:34,580
John C Dvorak: And let's go to
Linda lupetkin in Lakewood,

1799
01:44:34,580 --> 01:44:40,660
Colorado, who requests jobs
karma and says for a resume that

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01:44:40,660 --> 01:44:44,020
gets results. She has a lot of
fans, by the way, visit

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01:44:44,020 --> 01:44:48,280
imagemakers. Inc.com, for your
go to as a go to for all your

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01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:52,480
executive resume and job search
needs. That's image makers. Inc,

1803
01:44:52,480 --> 01:44:57,160
with a K as a K, and work with
Linda Lou Duchess of jobs and

1804
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,560
writer of resumes, jobs,

1805
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,280
Unknown: jobs. Jobs, jobs and
jobs.

1806
01:45:05,700 --> 01:45:09,420
Adam Curry: Let's vote for jobs.
And finally, on our list, last

1807
01:45:09,420 --> 01:45:14,280
Associate Executive Producer,
$200.33 sir. Not Space Force

1808
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:19,440
here, sir. Not Space Force here,
sir. Not Space Force here. I

1809
01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:23,000
think it's sir. Not Space Force.
I have exciting news. I've

1810
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:27,500
written two apps now available
in the Apple Store. Bird ship, a

1811
01:45:27,500 --> 01:45:32,720
musical puzzle game and digilor,
that's D, I, G, I, L, O, R, E, A

1812
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:37,700
modern podcast app. Oh, oh, how
about that? Free coupon email.

1813
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:45,880
Itm@machinepublishers.com with
subject. ITM, yeah, it's, I

1814
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:50,440
think it's iOS only. He told me
about this. I have not seen it,

1815
01:45:50,440 --> 01:45:53,620
but I'm excited about it
because, you know, more

1816
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:56,380
independent podcast apps the
better. Thank you very much,

1817
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:58,480
sir. Not Space Force here, yeah,

1818
01:45:58,480 --> 01:46:01,980
John C Dvorak: I will say that
we have one more we do Associate

1819
01:46:01,980 --> 01:46:05,100
Executive Producer, because he
came in as Australian dollary

1820
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:11,940
dues, which is well over $200
Okay. Thomas Weaver, with a I

1821
01:46:12,540 --> 01:46:16,320
doing this reluctantly, because
of the length of the note, yes.

1822
01:46:16,740 --> 01:46:19,800
But Thomas Weaver from
Blackwall, New South Wales,

1823
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:25,100
comes in, and the numbers
probably around 210, I'm

1824
01:46:25,100 --> 01:46:27,380
guessing, yeah, always good to
first time donation. So a

1825
01:46:27,380 --> 01:46:32,960
deuceing would be a wonderful
thank you. You've been deduced

1826
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:36,440
also a birthday. Birthday shout
out for myself. He's got that

1827
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,920
we're on. You're on the list. I
first came across you via

1828
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:46,900
hearing Adam just over a year
ago on the tftc with Marty bent.

1829
01:46:47,260 --> 01:46:50,800
Adam Curry: Marty bent, he's,
he's got a huge podcast, and

1830
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:51,580
he's my friend

1831
01:46:52,480 --> 01:46:54,580
John C Dvorak: who, who's, I
don't know anything about this.

1832
01:46:54,580 --> 01:46:54,760
Oh,

1833
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:58,480
Adam Curry: Marty bent is in
Austin. It's the tftc podcast.

1834
01:46:59,620 --> 01:47:05,820
He used to be in finance and
finance, and he left finance and

1835
01:47:05,820 --> 01:47:10,980
went into Bitcoin mining and all
he's a it. He is a cool dude.

1836
01:47:11,340 --> 01:47:16,380
He, I think he has now two young
kids moved from Florida. Was he

1837
01:47:16,380 --> 01:47:19,680
in Florida? No, he's in
Pennsylvania. I think was in

1838
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,820
Philly. Moved to Austin a couple
years we've had dinner with him

1839
01:47:23,060 --> 01:47:26,780
and his wife. Lovely couple. A
young, young, John Young, half

1840
01:47:26,780 --> 01:47:29,480
our age, well my age. Thomas

1841
01:47:29,480 --> 01:47:33,020
John C Dvorak: Weaver continues.
So here I am swapping some of my

1842
01:47:33,020 --> 01:47:38,120
Aussie dollar dollary dues for
your American cookbooks, as

1843
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:43,600
Marty would say. And let me tell
you, the Australia to USD

1844
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:48,760
turnaround is terrible. We are
truly the land down under, yes,

1845
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:53,980
but on the plus side, I'm a
regenerative farm worker, and

1846
01:47:53,980 --> 01:47:57,760
I've had the pleasure to have
met Texas slim. Oh, there you

1847
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:01,860
go, in person and converse with
him. Get grass finished, meats

1848
01:48:01,860 --> 01:48:05,400
as at will, and listen to the
best podcast in the universe.

1849
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:09,060
Well, whilst on my daily chores
of feeding the animals, you

1850
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:13,500
know, Texas slim was on some,
some TV show recently I saw him.

1851
01:48:13,620 --> 01:48:14,220
Oh yeah, he

1852
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:16,680
Adam Curry: gets around. He's
trying to very, very

1853
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,560
John C Dvorak: skinny guy with a
big Texas hat, you

1854
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,520
Adam Curry: know, I told him,
because he would do interviews

1855
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:26,600
and he put on a baseball cap, I
said, bro, no, you need to

1856
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,060
always have the hat on when
you're doing an interview.

1857
01:48:29,180 --> 01:48:32,300
Otherwise, he's just a skinny
dude with a hat. Now you're

1858
01:48:32,300 --> 01:48:36,980
Texas slim. You see, Texas Slim
is perfect. He gets around well,

1859
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:39,860
he took your advice, yes, and
he's trying to, he's trying

1860
01:48:39,860 --> 01:48:43,120
John C Dvorak: to very erudite.
He's character. He

1861
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:46,060
Adam Curry: is erudite is the
correct word. And

1862
01:48:46,060 --> 01:48:49,060
John C Dvorak: I won't anyway,
continuing, and I won't use this

1863
01:48:49,060 --> 01:48:52,240
donation to shamelessly plug the
business I work for. No instead,

1864
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:55,900
I will plug my smoking hot
girlfriend's business meals for

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01:48:55,900 --> 01:48:59,740
mamas, an amazing ready made
meal delivery service for

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01:48:59,740 --> 01:49:05,580
postpartum mothers and their
partners. It's utilizing organic

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01:49:05,580 --> 01:49:08,880
ingredients, grass, finished
meats, even some from our farm,

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01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:12,240
and a delicious assortment of
healthier snack options as well,

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01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:17,760
delivered fresh throughout New
South Wales. Act and now act,

1870
01:49:17,820 --> 01:49:19,920
act a CT and now Queensland

1871
01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:24,080
Adam Curry: act is sent Central,
uh, yeah, something, yeah,

1872
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,200
John C Dvorak: somewhere, sorry,
everyone only in Australia, go

1873
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,840
to meals. That

1874
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,300
Adam Curry: should be a four. I
think, I think he mistyped that

1875
01:49:32,420 --> 01:49:36,800
four mamas, not, not dollar
sign. Meals, number four mamas,

1876
01:49:37,220 --> 01:49:38,960
John C Dvorak: I think you're
probably right. Meals,

1877
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:45,640
mamas.com.au, for delivering
more as for you, Adam and John,

1878
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:48,580
a grass finished steak straight
from the farm and a brilliant

1879
01:49:48,580 --> 01:49:52,900
Aussie Shiraz or cap Sauvignon
for John, two will be here

1880
01:49:52,900 --> 01:49:56,560
waiting for you if you ever
decide to visit. Thanks again

1881
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,080
for all the stellar work you
guys do. Thomas, well, I

1882
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:01,980
Adam Curry: hear you guys. We'll
see. Even be our 51st state so

1883
01:50:02,340 --> 01:50:05,340
it'll be easy. You know, we
pretty much, we pretty much own

1884
01:50:05,340 --> 01:50:08,520
them now, don't we, with our,
what was the military

1885
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:09,420
John C Dvorak: boys there? Oh

1886
01:50:09,660 --> 01:50:12,540
Adam Curry: yeah, we take all
over. Take it over. Hey, that's

1887
01:50:12,540 --> 01:50:13,260
anyway, that's our,

1888
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,720
John C Dvorak: that's our group
of, uh, well wishers and

1889
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,900
producers, Associate Executive
and executive producers for show

1890
01:50:18,900 --> 01:50:20,160
1680 and thank

1891
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,580
Adam Curry: you again to
everyone else who came in with

1892
01:50:22,940 --> 01:50:27,380
with donations and notes. We
will be reading numbers above 50

1893
01:50:27,380 --> 01:50:30,140
for the donations and sometimes
a note, depending on what's in

1894
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,900
it in our second segment. And of
course, thanks to everyone who

1895
01:50:32,900 --> 01:50:35,840
comes in under $50 for reasons
of anonymity and those

1896
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:39,560
sustaining donations go to no
agenda donations.com and thank

1897
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:40,960
you for producing 1690

1898
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:46,780
Unknown: our formula is this, we
go out. We hit people in the

1899
01:50:46,780 --> 01:50:47,140
mouth, shut

1900
01:50:54,640 --> 01:51:03,660
Adam Curry: up. Mistakenly says
1680 did I say 1680 I meant 1690

1901
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:08,220
No. I said 600. Wow, yeah. Well,
that's why I do all the

1902
01:51:08,220 --> 01:51:08,760
production,

1903
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:12,060
John C Dvorak: yes, right? So I
could screw it, so I could screw

1904
01:51:12,060 --> 01:51:12,480
it up,

1905
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:18,120
Adam Curry: which I do from time
to time. It does happen. All

1906
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:21,020
right, I said we got lots of
clips, so lay it on now, let's

1907
01:51:21,020 --> 01:51:21,140
see

1908
01:51:21,140 --> 01:51:23,120
John C Dvorak: what we got. You
want some funny clips? You want

1909
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:26,540
to give me some funny clips?
Well, let's, well,

1910
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:29,360
Adam Curry: oh, well, I don't
have any funny clips. He said,

1911
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:31,580
Oh, okay. Let's

1912
01:51:31,580 --> 01:51:34,940
John C Dvorak: talk a little bit
about, let's catch up with the

1913
01:51:34,940 --> 01:51:39,140
Middle East with an update. This
is, I can do a clip blitz Middle

1914
01:51:39,140 --> 01:51:41,260
Adam Curry: East. Really, it's
everyone's just okay. Look,

1915
01:51:41,260 --> 01:51:43,780
they're killing each other over
there. Here's a good one. Here's

1916
01:51:43,780 --> 01:51:46,900
John C Dvorak: a good one. Did
you know this was going on to

1917
01:51:46,900 --> 01:51:48,580
sag after strike?

1918
01:51:49,420 --> 01:51:52,300
Adam Curry: Wait, I thought we
already had a SAG after strike.

1919
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:53,260
Oh,

1920
01:51:53,260 --> 01:51:55,060
John C Dvorak: how wrong you
are. There's still another one.

1921
01:51:55,060 --> 01:51:56,560
They just keep coming. The

1922
01:51:56,620 --> 01:51:59,920
Unknown: Video Game actors have
remained on strike since July.

1923
01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:02,880
This follows months of
negotiations with major gaming

1924
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:06,540
companies. The strike aims to
ensure equal protection for

1925
01:52:06,540 --> 01:52:10,320
union voice actors and motion
capture performers against what

1926
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:13,800
they say is unregulated use of
artificial intelligence.

1927
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:17,520
Kristina Corona reports from
Southern California.

1928
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:20,720
We're here in the city of
Burbank outside Warner Brothers

1929
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,840
Studios, where members of sag
aktra are picketing as part of

1930
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,660
their strike against major video
game studios.

1931
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:36,920
The video game companies are
rightly isolated. When you look

1932
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:40,180
at the studios, the streamers,
the record labels, we've been

1933
01:52:40,180 --> 01:52:44,440
able to achieve the necessary
protections for our members with

1934
01:52:44,440 --> 01:52:46,960
all of those companies, and yet,
for some reason, the video game

1935
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,660
companies refuse to make the
same fair deal.

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01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:52,960
Several video game actors and
voice actors said they are

1937
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:56,980
striking for fair contracts,
primarily to oppose unregulated

1938
01:52:56,980 --> 01:52:59,020
use of artificial intelligence,

1939
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:03,900
something where we know that we
have something in writing, that

1940
01:53:03,900 --> 01:53:06,780
when we go into one session,
that doesn't mean they can just

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01:53:06,780 --> 01:53:11,940
reuse, digitally reproduce our
voice for future needs. It's

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01:53:11,940 --> 01:53:15,120
ensuring that we can still do
what we love to do for people

1943
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:18,780
and moving forward, and we're
not phased out by robots.

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01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,860
Voice Actor Sam kwasman
mentioned many actors have

1945
01:53:21,860 --> 01:53:25,220
worked their entire career for
only a modest return.

1946
01:53:25,580 --> 01:53:28,520
We're fighting for our lives.
Basically, we spend all this

1947
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:32,120
time learning our lives and
taking acting lessons, singing

1948
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:36,140
lessons, dancing. I mean, you
train for your career and then

1949
01:53:36,140 --> 01:53:38,300
you wind up with a couple 100
bucks

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01:53:38,480 --> 01:53:41,740
Adam Curry: start a podcast,
listen. I have a I have a

1951
01:53:41,740 --> 01:53:46,060
question, guys. So the nanny
spent all this time setting up

1952
01:53:46,060 --> 01:53:49,780
this. No, AI for what I thought
was sag after, but they didn't

1953
01:53:49,780 --> 01:53:53,140
think to include the video game
industry. Yeah,

1954
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:58,480
John C Dvorak: seems so, because
way I'm in close the hatch, huh?

1955
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:01,560
Adam Curry: And are all act is,
are we going to see Angelina

1956
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:04,980
Jolie go on strike for the video
game actors? Are they lesser

1957
01:54:04,980 --> 01:54:08,640
than do they not count, even
though their industry is 10

1958
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,340
times as big as the movie
industry? Yeah, that's

1959
01:54:11,340 --> 01:54:13,920
John C Dvorak: the irony. Will
they go on irony is, the

1960
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:20,960
industry is huge compared to the
film entertainment side of it.

1961
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:21,200
So

1962
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,180
Adam Curry: will they go on
strike? These scabs? Are this

1963
01:54:23,180 --> 01:54:25,820
going to continue to work? They
don't care about their brothers

1964
01:54:25,820 --> 01:54:29,960
and sisters, who also had to
learn how to act and sing and

1965
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,300
read lines and whatever else
they were doing.

1966
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:35,300
John C Dvorak: I think you can
figure it out. No one

1967
01:54:35,300 --> 01:54:38,420
Unknown: voice actor raised
concerns the AI is costing them

1968
01:54:38,420 --> 01:54:42,220
jobs as AI generated voices can
be manipulated to say

1969
01:54:42,220 --> 01:54:45,460
inappropriate or offensive
things, which then are falsely

1970
01:54:45,460 --> 01:54:49,420
attributed to them causing
issues with their agencies and

1971
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:49,660
the

1972
01:54:49,660 --> 01:54:52,960
actors over here. Like, no,
wait, that was not me. Someone

1973
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:56,680
cloned my voice through some
program and like, I would never

1974
01:54:56,680 --> 01:55:01,380
say any of this stuff, so the AI
protections. Are definitely what

1975
01:55:01,380 --> 01:55:04,260
is worth fighting for more
livelihoods.

1976
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:08,100
AI is not coming. It's already
here.

1977
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:10,500
Adam Curry: I have never heard
that guy in a video game,

1978
01:55:12,540 --> 01:55:15,300
John C Dvorak: and he might be a
voice guy that you know changes

1979
01:55:15,300 --> 01:55:16,560
his voice. Well,

1980
01:55:16,860 --> 01:55:20,040
Adam Curry: I will tell you
right now, if AI could take over

1981
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:23,360
this podcast, and we could be on
the beach chilling like Bob

1982
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:27,680
Dylan, I'm all in, but it can't,
can't it, can't it can't even

1983
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:29,360
count the R's in strawberry.

1984
01:55:32,420 --> 01:55:34,940
John C Dvorak: The thing that's
kind of interesting when you

1985
01:55:34,940 --> 01:55:40,660
think about this particular
complaint is Mel Blanc. Oh, Mel

1986
01:55:40,660 --> 01:55:46,000
Blanc was a notorious prick that
did all the voices for every

1987
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:49,420
character in Warner Brothers
cartoons. He did Bugs Bunny,

1988
01:55:49,540 --> 01:55:53,680
right? He did Porky Pig. He did
all the character, every

1989
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:57,100
character, in fact, it was all
the vocalizations and all the

1990
01:55:57,100 --> 01:56:01,680
commercials and all the comic
cartoons, yes, that Warner

1991
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,980
Brothers came out with, and he
it was the voice by Mel Blanc.

1992
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:12,360
And Mel Blanc would make a fuss,
according to the rumors, that

1993
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:17,040
Who knew he'd make a huge fuss
if they brought in one single

1994
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:20,300
guy to do one single voice in
any of the cartoons he was

1995
01:56:20,300 --> 01:56:23,540
involved in, which was all of
Warner Brothers cartoons, all

1996
01:56:23,540 --> 01:56:26,120
the Bugs Bunny, all the Daffy
Duck, all that stuff.

1997
01:56:26,300 --> 01:56:29,000
Adam Curry: Are you sure he did
Elmer Fudd? Because people are

1998
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:30,800
saying that's not true. I

1999
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:34,760
John C Dvorak: believe so. He
had. He was a man of one of

2000
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:38,060
these I run in, ran into one of
these guys I was doing when I

2001
01:56:38,060 --> 01:56:41,320
was doing a radio show. I ran
into the guy who took over

2002
01:56:41,380 --> 01:56:46,840
tigger's voice, which Tigger
used to be done by Paul Winchell

2003
01:56:47,500 --> 01:56:51,880
in the Winnie the Pooh series.
And Tigger was done by Paul

2004
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:54,760
Winchell. He was the one who
developed the voice. And Paul

2005
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:57,040
Winchell died, and they were
still doing these Winnie the

2006
01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:00,960
Pooh movies. And this guy who
was on the show, he was a voice

2007
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:05,040
guy, and he took over. And I
didn't know anything that this

2008
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:07,680
even happened, and he did a
bunch of voices for me,

2009
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:11,280
including Tigger. And he sounded
he was one of those guys who

2010
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:15,780
could just mimic voices like,
you know, like an impressionist,

2011
01:57:15,780 --> 01:57:21,620
or even better, and he could do,
he's had about 12 or 13 very

2012
01:57:21,620 --> 01:57:24,380
distinctive voices that he could
do, but Tigger was one of them.

2013
01:57:24,860 --> 01:57:25,520
And

2014
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:29,120
Adam Curry: I could be wrong
about breaking, breaking news,

2015
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:34,580
breaking news, breaking Steve
Webb og godcaster Text me. We

2016
01:57:34,580 --> 01:57:40,480
text as a voice actor. I can
confirm Mel Blanc, blank did

2017
01:57:40,540 --> 01:57:43,420
Elmer Fudd. Doesn't mean it is
voice. He might have just done

2018
01:57:43,420 --> 01:57:45,700
it, but okay, he did Elmer Fudd.

2019
01:57:47,140 --> 01:57:49,240
John C Dvorak: He did all the
voices and Warner Brothers

2020
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,580
cartoons. If you look at because
they give credit on there,

2021
01:57:51,580 --> 01:57:58,300
there's only one guy's name,
but, yes, but So, so what was

2022
01:57:58,300 --> 01:58:01,380
the difference between, you
know, AI doing some voices, or

2023
01:58:01,380 --> 01:58:06,240
for these cartoons, or one guy
doing all the voices, not

2024
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:09,720
letting anybody else work.
Where's the strike then? I mean,

2025
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:11,820
it seems to me that that was
unfair.

2026
01:58:13,020 --> 01:58:16,200
Adam Curry: By the way, okay, by
the way, no, this is good.

2027
01:58:18,180 --> 01:58:23,240
Leanne Webb sent me an email.
She is the much better half of

2028
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:26,240
Steve Webb regarding John Tesh,

2029
01:58:28,100 --> 01:58:30,380
John C Dvorak: I have wondered
what happened to John Tesh.

2030
01:58:30,380 --> 01:58:30,980
Well,

2031
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:34,460
Adam Curry: couple years ago she
saw him at the coach house. Is

2032
01:58:34,460 --> 01:58:38,900
in Florida, no Arizona. I think
he's surviving a very rare form

2033
01:58:38,900 --> 01:58:42,580
of cancer, but still performing.
He performed, of course, on

2034
01:58:42,580 --> 01:58:45,640
Entertainment Tonight with Mary
Hart. He's still around. And

2035
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:50,380
then I got a note from the boys
from Mercy Me are who are

2036
01:58:50,380 --> 01:58:55,720
knights at this point, and they
had some John Tesh trivia. Did

2037
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:58,480
you know that he wrote the NBA
theme song?

2038
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:03,000
John C Dvorak: No, I did not
know that. That's pretty that's

2039
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:05,340
trivia. That is that stream
trivia News

2040
01:59:05,340 --> 01:59:06,300
Adam Curry: You Can Use right

2041
01:59:06,300 --> 01:59:09,000
John C Dvorak: there. Yes,
that's a lifetime of that

2042
01:59:09,180 --> 01:59:11,940
Adam Curry: you can retire. You
can retire on something that was

2043
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:12,720
like Paul

2044
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:15,120
John C Dvorak: Anka when he
wrote, he wrote the Johnny

2045
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:19,620
Carson I show, yep, Tonight Show
theme. And since the show went

2046
01:59:19,740 --> 01:59:23,780
up for 30 years, yeah, he was
just gold. You know, you just

2047
01:59:23,780 --> 01:59:25,220
make money every show. But

2048
01:59:25,220 --> 01:59:28,700
Adam Curry: Can you hum the NBA
theme song? No, I cannot,

2049
01:59:28,700 --> 01:59:32,600
neither. And and they and so the
Mercy boys, Mercy Me. Boys said

2050
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:35,600
that they met him on a cruise.
They were performing on a

2051
01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:38,540
cruise, and they said, you and
John should do a no agenda

2052
01:59:38,540 --> 01:59:39,320
cruise.

2053
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:42,700
John C Dvorak: Yes, that's that.
Let me look on my list of things

2054
01:59:42,700 --> 01:59:43,540
I want to do.

2055
01:59:44,500 --> 01:59:47,560
Adam Curry: I can hear Horowitz
already going, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2056
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:49,180
yeah, yeah, let's do a cruise.

2057
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:53,440
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Oh,
there it is. Is that number? Oh,

2058
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:56,500
it's been dexed out. No, it
doesn't seem to be. No, it's

2059
01:59:56,500 --> 01:59:57,760
not, yeah, I

2060
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,720
Adam Curry: have a feeling it's
not in the cards a cruise. Ruse,

2061
02:00:00,900 --> 02:00:03,780
oh, boy. And then someone else
emailed me saying, Hey, we

2062
02:00:03,780 --> 02:00:07,980
should do a no agenda con, you
know, like, which we do that

2063
02:00:07,980 --> 02:00:11,280
twice a week. No, no agenda con,
like, a big where everyone, all

2064
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:15,000
producers from all over the
world, can come in and hang out

2065
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:19,440
together, the world's largest
meetup. And I thought about, I

2066
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:23,900
said, I think this has popped up
in the past, and the reason why

2067
02:00:23,900 --> 02:00:27,740
we always say no is because
people always want the same

2068
02:00:27,740 --> 02:00:34,100
thing, and then you can do a
live show on stage. Yeah, and

2069
02:00:34,100 --> 02:00:37,460
like no, we though it would be
great. Everyone could hang out

2070
02:00:37,460 --> 02:00:40,840
together, have a drink. But what
are we gonna do? You know, we

2071
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:44,380
have, there's no tricks, there's
no, uh, no act. There's nothing

2072
02:00:44,380 --> 02:00:46,960
with, you know, there's we need
to do sessions.

2073
02:00:47,380 --> 02:00:50,920
John C Dvorak: We'd have to work
on a on a comedy act, a routine

2074
02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:57,880
like Rowan and Martin laugh in
routine.

2075
02:00:57,940 --> 02:00:59,380
Adam Curry: Who's on First? It's

2076
02:00:59,380 --> 02:01:03,000
John C Dvorak: not again, not in
the cards. No, it's, is that you

2077
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:05,580
what we're what we've been
doing, is what we're doing, and

2078
02:01:05,580 --> 02:01:08,940
that's about it. You know? We
don't have, we have a microphone

2079
02:01:08,940 --> 02:01:09,960
company coming.

2080
02:01:11,340 --> 02:01:13,560
Adam Curry: I'm not allowed to
promote it anymore, you know?

2081
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:13,980
And you know

2082
02:01:13,980 --> 02:01:16,680
John C Dvorak: how many we have
to hold off on promotion until

2083
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:20,480
we actually get the microphones
done. And then we have, what is

2084
02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:23,420
there anything else that we
gonna do down the side? Not

2085
02:01:23,420 --> 02:01:23,840
really, I

2086
02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:26,540
Adam Curry: think. No, that's
about it. We gotta. I

2087
02:01:26,540 --> 02:01:28,940
John C Dvorak: mean, I have the
publishing company and, yeah,

2088
02:01:29,000 --> 02:01:31,460
you've got a bunch of other
podcasts, and podcasting 2.0

2089
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:35,300
that keeps you busy. We're doing
work. I mean, we don't, but

2090
02:01:35,300 --> 02:01:38,060
we're not doing a cruise and
we're not doing a podcast

2091
02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:42,400
Adam Curry: 2.0 is zero income.
That's just to keep this show

2092
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:46,420
going. I'm doing it for the
show. And anyone else who wants

2093
02:01:46,420 --> 02:01:47,260
to do a show, well,

2094
02:01:47,260 --> 02:01:50,740
John C Dvorak: it's actually
very philanthropic. That's what

2095
02:01:50,740 --> 02:01:51,040
it is.

2096
02:01:51,340 --> 02:01:53,800
Adam Curry: Yes, where's my
Nobel Peace Prize?

2097
02:01:54,340 --> 02:01:54,940
John C Dvorak: Do get it?

2098
02:01:56,560 --> 02:02:01,860
Adam Curry: Sure. Well, if Obama
could get one. So we're still

2099
02:02:01,860 --> 02:02:07,020
awaiting the return of the
astronauts on that failed Boeing

2100
02:02:07,020 --> 02:02:10,080
Starliner. Thing is that the
Starliner, yeah, was the

2101
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:11,820
Starliner. You

2102
02:02:11,820 --> 02:02:13,740
John C Dvorak: know, I have a
clip I want to play before you

2103
02:02:13,740 --> 02:02:17,400
get to that which has got, this
is similar. This is, this is

2104
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:21,080
like a thing that makes me
cringe. This is the Space X,

2105
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:26,960
flip, and it is the private
thing they're going to do. And

2106
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:30,020
you know, you know, Elon has not
gone up in the space yet that I

2107
02:02:30,020 --> 02:02:35,780
know he's smart, because it's
and I think, by the way, this is

2108
02:02:35,780 --> 02:02:39,860
just, I don't know if it's a red
book prediction, but we've lost

2109
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:42,700
astronauts when we had the
billions of dollars. And, you

2110
02:02:42,700 --> 02:02:44,980
know, you send them up and
something goes wrong, and it

2111
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:46,240
kills these guys, although

2112
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:48,220
Adam Curry: they happen when
they're all alive in different

2113
02:02:48,220 --> 02:02:49,720
places in the country. But,
yeah,

2114
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:53,140
John C Dvorak: well, that could
be the one that came in and the

2115
02:02:53,140 --> 02:02:56,020
tiles were falling off the
bottom, and the thing blew up,

2116
02:02:56,020 --> 02:02:58,900
and everyone got to see it, and
the Challenger went up and they

2117
02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:02,400
blew up. I mean, people. And
then the guys who sat on the on

2118
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:07,080
the launch pad, they burned up
in the pit. Yeah, three of them.

2119
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:10,440
That was bad. And, of course,
that's suspicious that one. But

2120
02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:14,940
the something's gonna happen on
one of these things, and it's

2121
02:03:14,940 --> 02:03:17,940
gonna be, it's gonna really
destroy

2122
02:03:17,940 --> 02:03:20,460
Adam Curry: in the business.
It's gonna be a day wrecker.

2123
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:23,300
John C Dvorak: It's gonna
destroy, yes, I agree. It's

2124
02:03:23,300 --> 02:03:26,240
gonna end the business a day
record. But this one, this

2125
02:03:26,240 --> 02:03:30,500
particular one, this is they're
gonna send up people higher than

2126
02:03:30,500 --> 02:03:34,280
ever before, maybe through a
radiation belt. I'm not even

2127
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:39,200
sure, belts really. We're gonna
make them go outside and roam

2128
02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:42,520
around. I mean, this does not
sound like a good thing. Space

2129
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:44,920
Unknown: X's historical
Aristotle mission is delayed

2130
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:48,580
once again, this time it's
because of bad weather. Four

2131
02:03:48,580 --> 02:03:51,460
private astronauts were set to
be launched into space this

2132
02:03:51,460 --> 02:03:55,600
morning, but SpaceX said bad
offshore weather is predicted in

2133
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:58,900
the area where the crew will
eventually splash down at the

2134
02:03:58,900 --> 02:04:02,640
end of the mission. During the
mission, SpaceX plans to conduct

2135
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:06,480
the first ever private spacewalk
as well as gather data from

2136
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:09,720
dozens of experiments. The
mission commander said the crew

2137
02:04:09,720 --> 02:04:13,320
must be absolutely sure of
reentry weather before

2138
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:16,320
launching. That's because the
supplies they are carrying are

2139
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:19,920
limited. The mission had already
been postponed from yesterday

2140
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:22,940
after engineers discovered a
helium leak in one of the

2141
02:04:22,940 --> 02:04:24,140
rockets components.

2142
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:26,120
Adam Curry: Oh, he's also got a
helium leak.

2143
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:31,460
Unknown: Yeah, helium

2144
02:04:32,420 --> 02:04:35,780
Adam Curry: Yeah. I'm all for
sending up satellites, you know,

2145
02:04:35,780 --> 02:04:42,880
it's fine, but yeah, going up
into space, sure, yeah, KLM has

2146
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:45,820
just enough. So we have the
Boeing astronauts on the

2147
02:04:45,820 --> 02:04:48,220
International Space Station.
They won't come back until

2148
02:04:48,220 --> 02:04:51,340
February. Is now reported, and
they're going to send their

2149
02:04:51,340 --> 02:04:55,840
Boeing capsule back down. Watch
that thing you want to take over

2150
02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:58,900
under on this where there's that
thing like explodes on the way

2151
02:04:58,900 --> 02:05:00,600
down, or will it? Be safe.

2152
02:05:00,660 --> 02:05:03,060
John C Dvorak: I'm like, Oh,
well, that's not really an over

2153
02:05:03,060 --> 02:05:05,640
and under. And over and under
has a plus or minus, either

2154
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:10,260
gonna blow up or not. Well, I
would, I would say it's gonna

2155
02:05:10,260 --> 02:05:11,100
come back. Okay?

2156
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:14,580
Adam Curry: I think so too, not
that I'd risk my life on it.

2157
02:05:15,300 --> 02:05:15,540
Well,

2158
02:05:15,540 --> 02:05:17,160
John C Dvorak: that's why
they're not risking their life

2159
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:21,920
on it, because the fact that
you'd even discuss it as blowing

2160
02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:24,680
up doesn't seem very not

2161
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:29,480
Adam Curry: great, not great. So
KLM has now said they are

2162
02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:35,480
switching from Boeing to Airbus,
and KLM is, you know, Air

2163
02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:42,820
France, that's a big order.
They're losing. Airbus is

2164
02:05:42,820 --> 02:05:46,540
cleaner, quieter, more
economical, and doesn't have the

2165
02:05:46,540 --> 02:05:49,840
doors popping off. That was not
in the press release, but I'm

2166
02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:54,880
just going to add that. And in
China, we have another

2167
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:58,540
competitor doing much better
than Boeing, is

2168
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:01,200
Unknown: Air China. And China
Southern Airlines will become

2169
02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:04,260
the second and third Chinese
carriers to fly China's

2170
02:06:04,260 --> 02:06:08,700
homegrown c9 online passenger
jet. The two carriers took

2171
02:06:08,700 --> 02:06:12,180
delivery of the aircraft at
Chinese planemaker Comac space

2172
02:06:12,180 --> 02:06:14,100
in Shanghai. These

2173
02:06:14,100 --> 02:06:17,340
are the eighth and ninth planes
that Comac has delivered China.

2174
02:06:17,340 --> 02:06:19,980
Eastern Airlines has already
been flying seven of these

2175
02:06:19,980 --> 02:06:20,480
aircraft

2176
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:23,060
Adam Curry: since May last year.
There you go.

2177
02:06:23,420 --> 02:06:24,740
John C Dvorak: No, what's a? C,
919,

2178
02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:28,040
Adam Curry: it looks like a 737
I think it's going to be a

2179
02:06:28,040 --> 02:06:32,840
competitor that big. Oh, yeah,
it's, it's a dupe. It's a it's a

2180
02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:33,920
dupe of the 737

2181
02:06:35,900 --> 02:06:39,140
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they look
nice. The commax. C9, 19, they

2182
02:06:39,140 --> 02:06:42,700
look nice. It looks like a 737,
you're right. It probably is a

2183
02:06:42,700 --> 02:06:44,140
copy of an old one. It's a

2184
02:06:44,140 --> 02:06:48,100
Adam Curry: dupe. It's a dupe.
It's a dupe. Yes, now I'm not

2185
02:06:48,100 --> 02:06:51,580
sure if this was a Boeing
aircraft, so I have not received

2186
02:06:51,580 --> 02:06:51,940
so

2187
02:06:51,940 --> 02:06:55,660
John C Dvorak: we're doomed once
the Chinese get into this. This

2188
02:06:55,660 --> 02:06:58,660
Adam Curry: is a very sad thing
that took place. People don't

2189
02:06:58,660 --> 02:07:01,620
really this could be a
maintenance issue. It could be

2190
02:07:01,680 --> 02:07:04,560
an aircraft issue. Again. I
don't know if it was Boeing or

2191
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:07,200
Airbus, but this is sad thing
that happened this

2192
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:10,620
Unknown: morning. Delta Airlines
searching for answers after two

2193
02:07:10,620 --> 02:07:14,400
employees were killed on the job
inside the airlines maintenance

2194
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:18,240
facility on the Atlanta airport
grounds. A third worker is being

2195
02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:20,220
treated for serious injuries.
1775

2196
02:07:21,300 --> 02:07:23,780
Mayor Jackson, Junior Boulevard,
Delta, TLC, three

2197
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:28,460
emergency crews rushing to the
Delta wheel and Brake Shop early

2198
02:07:28,460 --> 02:07:31,820
Tuesday morning. The airline
says employees were working on a

2199
02:07:31,820 --> 02:07:35,720
tire when the wheel component
suddenly ruptured. Delta

2200
02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:39,680
describing it as a heartbreaking
accident, it killed 58 year old

2201
02:07:39,740 --> 02:07:43,120
Merkel Marwick and 37 year old
Luis Aldo Rondo, it

2202
02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:46,840
was away from the main airplanes
had this high pressure, big

2203
02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:49,780
piece of metal, big piece of
rubber, and if it fails, for

2204
02:07:49,780 --> 02:07:53,320
some reason catastrophically,
can cause damage and injury to

2205
02:07:53,320 --> 02:07:54,160
people nearby.

2206
02:07:54,280 --> 02:07:57,400
A delta employee describing the
chilling scene to first

2207
02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:00,360
responders, saying, quote, I
walked toward where the

2208
02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:03,840
explosion occurred, and saw a
body lying face down, not

2209
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:06,120
moving, with blood all around
the

2210
02:08:06,120 --> 02:08:09,540
accident. Investigators will
probably look at the two metal

2211
02:08:09,540 --> 02:08:13,380
rims around that tire and look
for some sort of a fatigue

2212
02:08:13,380 --> 02:08:17,040
failure. Was that airplane old?
Was that tire old? Or was it

2213
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:20,100
somehow, some part of the way
that the tire was put together

2214
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:21,440
that caused this mishap.

2215
02:08:21,800 --> 02:08:24,740
Adam Curry: Doesn't Delta, Delta
fly Boeing's,

2216
02:08:26,180 --> 02:08:31,340
John C Dvorak: yeah, but this is
probably, this is component.

2217
02:08:31,340 --> 02:08:33,680
It's like, it's like, certain
trucks have these types of

2218
02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:33,980
tires.

2219
02:08:33,980 --> 02:08:35,540
Adam Curry: They're still blame
Boeing.

2220
02:08:36,140 --> 02:08:38,360
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah. Well,
that's the idea, blame them.

2221
02:08:38,420 --> 02:08:45,220
Yeah. Sorry about Boeing's got
issues. I see there's a comeback

2222
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:51,100
919 there's a 929 oh, so they're
building big jets. Yeah, um, I'd

2223
02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:55,180
probably honeywell's involved
with them. Oh, really, Americans

2224
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:56,560
have, you know, help

2225
02:08:56,620 --> 02:08:57,520
Adam Curry: really,

2226
02:08:57,940 --> 02:08:58,720
John C Dvorak: yeah, but

2227
02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:03,120
Adam Curry: probably fly it. I
wouldn't, I'm not too afraid. I

2228
02:09:03,120 --> 02:09:05,100
wouldn't go, Well, go on a
spaceship, but

2229
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:11,340
John C Dvorak: I'm taking a
rocket, here's a rocket, and

2230
02:09:11,340 --> 02:09:14,100
shoot it up there, and I'll be
on it and floating around for a

2231
02:09:14,100 --> 02:09:14,640
few minutes.

2232
02:09:14,700 --> 02:09:17,760
Adam Curry: This is a story
trending everywhere. It's not

2233
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:21,680
rage, it's crazy. It's no good
California. I mean, it's just

2234
02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:26,420
California story so, but it was
doing the rounds, so we might as

2235
02:09:26,420 --> 02:09:29,000
well discuss it, since one of us
is in California

2236
02:09:29,300 --> 02:09:31,520
Unknown: now, to a live look at
the state capitol. Right now,

2237
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:35,060
California lawmakers have about
three days to pass new laws for

2238
02:09:35,060 --> 02:09:38,240
the year. The deadline is
Saturday, at midnight. Lawmakers

2239
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:40,720
today saying Governor Newsom a
bill that would allow

2240
02:09:40,780 --> 02:09:43,600
undocumented people to apply for
the state's first time home

2241
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:47,260
buyers program. That program has
no money for the foreseeable

2242
02:09:47,260 --> 02:09:50,260
future, but that didn't stop
lawmakers in the state assembly

2243
02:09:50,380 --> 02:09:54,940
from approving it in a 45 to 15
party line vote, the proposal

2244
02:09:54,940 --> 02:09:57,760
specifically prohibits the
California Housing Finance

2245
02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:00,720
Authority from rejecting a
person's actions. Application

2246
02:10:00,900 --> 02:10:03,840
based on their immigration
status. The bill made national

2247
02:10:03,840 --> 02:10:06,540
headlines as California is
facing a housing crisis with

2248
02:10:06,660 --> 02:10:09,600
some of the highest costs in the
nation to own a home, we

2249
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:13,860
need to remind ourselves that we
are a nation of immigrants, and

2250
02:10:13,860 --> 02:10:17,700
here in our state, we remind
ourselves all the time of the

2251
02:10:17,700 --> 02:10:21,260
value of those who are
continuing to come here and to

2252
02:10:21,260 --> 02:10:24,920
make our economy better. So for
those who are paying their

2253
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:28,820
taxes, who are doing things
right, who have a good credit

2254
02:10:28,820 --> 02:10:32,780
score and who can qualify for a
loan, we are saying that we want

2255
02:10:32,780 --> 02:10:37,220
you to set roots here in our
great state. If you qualify,

2256
02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:40,720
Governor Newsom will have until
September 30 to sign or veto

2257
02:10:40,720 --> 02:10:41,380
this bill.

2258
02:10:41,560 --> 02:10:43,840
John C Dvorak: Apparently,
that's not the that's not the

2259
02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:46,540
way the story is told on this
clip. Oh,

2260
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:50,860
Adam Curry: hold on. Can I just
say something that Governor

2261
02:10:50,860 --> 02:10:55,660
Abbott of Texas, he is now
commissioned signs to be put up

2262
02:10:55,660 --> 02:10:59,500
in Mexico that says, free homes
that way. Point him towards the

2263
02:10:59,500 --> 02:10:59,860
north.

2264
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:04,500
John C Dvorak: Yes. Smart move
free homes in California. Is the

2265
02:11:04,500 --> 02:11:05,220
clip free?

2266
02:11:05,220 --> 02:11:07,620
Adam Curry: Oh, is that
literally the clip name? Oh, I

2267
02:11:07,620 --> 02:11:08,820
see a

2268
02:11:08,820 --> 02:11:11,220
Unknown: California proposal
could make illegal immigrants

2269
02:11:11,220 --> 02:11:15,900
eligible for housing aid. People
could get up to $150,000 in

2270
02:11:15,900 --> 02:11:20,660
loans to help buy a home paid
for by the state entities. David

2271
02:11:20,660 --> 02:11:21,860
lamb reports,

2272
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:25,160
a new proposal would expand home
buying loans to illegal

2273
02:11:25,160 --> 02:11:29,120
immigrants. On Tuesday, the
Senate passed a bill in a 25 to

2274
02:11:29,120 --> 02:11:32,840
14 vote, California's home
purchase assistance program

2275
02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:37,340
would cover up to a 20% down
payment or closing costs capped

2276
02:11:37,340 --> 02:11:42,880
at $150,000 it's called Assembly
Bill 1840 which was introduced

2277
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:47,140
by Assemblyman Joaquin arumbula,
and it prevents the state's home

2278
02:11:47,140 --> 02:11:51,400
purchase assistance program from
disqualifying an applicant based

2279
02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:54,580
on their immigration status.
Applicants would need to be

2280
02:11:54,580 --> 02:11:58,360
first time home buyers, and at
least one borrower needs to be a

2281
02:11:58,360 --> 02:12:01,680
first generation home buyer,
such as someone whose parents

2282
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:05,160
don't own a home, or they've
been through foster care, the

2283
02:12:05,160 --> 02:12:08,400
homebuyer would have to repay
the down payment loan, plus a

2284
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:11,880
portion of the profits if the
house is sold later on. So

2285
02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:15,180
that's the increased value of
the home. Now, as of Wednesday,

2286
02:12:15,180 --> 02:12:18,420
it's in the assembly before
going to Governor Gavin Newsom's

2287
02:12:18,420 --> 02:12:19,920
desk. Well, it

2288
02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:21,200
Adam Curry: wasn't that
different?

2289
02:12:22,640 --> 02:12:24,920
John C Dvorak: Well, they
emphasize the fact that this for

2290
02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:27,020
illegal immigrants, mainly,

2291
02:12:27,080 --> 02:12:29,300
Adam Curry: yes, well, of
course, that's what California

2292
02:12:29,300 --> 02:12:33,980
is all about. It's to improve
your economy now so that so 20%

2293
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:37,940
John C Dvorak: 150,000 so much
of 2008 written all over it

2294
02:12:37,940 --> 02:12:38,540
does.

2295
02:12:38,540 --> 02:12:43,900
Adam Curry: That's a $750,000
home, which, at today's interest

2296
02:12:43,900 --> 02:12:45,940
rates, pretty steep price,

2297
02:12:49,540 --> 02:12:53,500
John C Dvorak: you know? Yeah,
it might not be workable. You

2298
02:12:53,500 --> 02:12:57,640
mean, but Newsom, if he's smart,
he'll veto it so he can keep on

2299
02:12:57,640 --> 02:13:00,840
his you know, because otherwise
he's going to get everything

2300
02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:04,020
Newsom does from now on is
assuming that Trump's going to

2301
02:13:04,020 --> 02:13:07,080
be president, and he has to be
very careful that he's not going

2302
02:13:07,080 --> 02:13:09,180
to have this stuff thrown in his
face. Hey, but

2303
02:13:09,180 --> 02:13:12,420
Adam Curry: wait a minute, this
would work great for your favela

2304
02:13:12,420 --> 02:13:18,600
idea. Free favelas. You can get
a down payment on a favela.

2305
02:13:21,180 --> 02:13:25,100
John C Dvorak: This idea of the
favela itself is self free. It's

2306
02:13:25,100 --> 02:13:25,580
free,

2307
02:13:25,700 --> 02:13:31,220
Adam Curry: it's free, free. I
love that idea. Well, let's

2308
02:13:31,220 --> 02:13:35,780
continue to stay in California
with the cleanup operation just

2309
02:13:35,780 --> 02:13:38,720
in time for the Olympics, just
in time for the 2020, 2028,

2310
02:13:39,200 --> 02:13:42,640
election. This is rousting the
homeless. We're back

2311
02:13:42,640 --> 02:13:45,100
Unknown: now with our homeless
in America series. Earlier this

2312
02:13:45,100 --> 02:13:47,680
summer, the US Supreme Court
ruled that cities can find or

2313
02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:50,920
even jail people for sleeping
outside. Seen as Nick watt went

2314
02:13:50,920 --> 02:13:53,860
to San Francisco, a city with a
notorious homeless problem,

2315
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:56,920
which is now aggressively
sweeping homeless encampments

2316
02:13:56,920 --> 02:13:57,880
from its

2317
02:13:59,200 --> 02:14:04,140
streets. You got to go. But you
know where you're gonna go,

2318
02:14:04,200 --> 02:14:06,420
yeah. Okay,

2319
02:14:06,780 --> 02:14:07,680
Adam Curry: okay, okay,

2320
02:14:08,160 --> 02:14:11,280
Unknown: we're in the Mission
District. It's a little after

2321
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:14,340
7am Is this the first time
you've been involved in one of

2322
02:14:14,400 --> 02:14:18,240
these sweeps? No, no, no. This
is the first time they've been

2323
02:14:18,240 --> 02:14:20,180
so quiet and nice you'll

2324
02:14:20,180 --> 02:14:24,440
be in a shelter tonight. Well,
this covid? Yes, the Supreme

2325
02:14:24,440 --> 02:14:29,240
Court ruled that cities can now
cite fine or jail these people,

2326
02:14:29,300 --> 02:14:31,280
even if they have nowhere else
to go. We

2327
02:14:31,280 --> 02:14:33,920
have the ability to now enforce
the law. Mayor

2328
02:14:33,920 --> 02:14:37,460
London breed introduced what she
calls a very aggressive

2329
02:14:37,460 --> 02:14:41,560
strategy. They issued around 25
citations in the first two

2330
02:14:41,560 --> 02:14:44,560
weeks, you're criminalizing
something that a lot of people

2331
02:14:44,560 --> 02:14:46,300
can't help. They have no other
choice,

2332
02:14:46,360 --> 02:14:49,720
and that would be the case if we
weren't offering people a place

2333
02:14:49,720 --> 02:14:50,860
to go inside. They

2334
02:14:50,860 --> 02:14:52,060
haven't offered your shelter.

2335
02:14:52,420 --> 02:14:54,760
They said there's no opening for
shelter right now. There's no

2336
02:14:56,020 --> 02:14:57,460
beds or anything for trash. The

2337
02:14:57,820 --> 02:14:58,600
city says

2338
02:14:58,900 --> 02:15:03,840
no one this. Morning sweep ended
up in a shelter, not one. This

2339
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:07,080
is the afternoon sweep we're in
so much South of Market. The

2340
02:15:07,080 --> 02:15:11,940
issue is, this is the 34th time
the city has swept this area

2341
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:12,840
this year alone.

2342
02:15:14,040 --> 02:15:16,740
Adam Curry: 34th time. That's

2343
02:15:16,740 --> 02:15:19,260
John C Dvorak: a little twist on
the story. Doesn't

2344
02:15:19,260 --> 02:15:20,960
Adam Curry: seem to be working
very well.

2345
02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:24,740
John C Dvorak: Well, I know
whatever they're doing in San

2346
02:15:24,740 --> 02:15:28,880
Francisco, a lot of it's housing
has an impact, and the homeless

2347
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:33,020
are moving, probably wisely, to
Oakland, right

2348
02:15:33,020 --> 02:15:34,220
Adam Curry: across the road from
you.

2349
02:15:35,480 --> 02:15:37,940
John C Dvorak: Well, it's far
enough away. I'm not worried

2350
02:15:37,940 --> 02:15:40,480
about it. But, okay, I wasn't
open the other day driving

2351
02:15:40,480 --> 02:15:43,360
around. Yeah, and it's worse
than ever. In a homeless

2352
02:15:43,360 --> 02:15:46,120
situation, there's encampments
under every Overpass, which

2353
02:15:46,120 --> 02:15:50,020
seems like ever there's a you
won't find a freeway overpass

2354
02:15:50,020 --> 02:15:53,500
where there aren't a bunch of
tents. And there's a huge park

2355
02:15:53,500 --> 02:15:58,000
on the corner of MacArthur and
Broadway for people who want to

2356
02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:02,280
check it out. And there's just
Tent City. The whole park isn't

2357
02:16:02,340 --> 02:16:07,440
completely filled, but it's a
borderline favela, but not the

2358
02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:12,780
right kind. The right kind needs
a view. Yes, yeah, it's a view

2359
02:16:12,840 --> 02:16:18,300
formula. And I don't see anybody
doing anything about anything in

2360
02:16:18,300 --> 02:16:18,720
Oakland.

2361
02:16:19,020 --> 02:16:22,700
Adam Curry: I have a second part
to this report, more than 4000

2362
02:16:23,420 --> 02:16:26,060
Unknown: people live on San
Francisco streets. There are

2363
02:16:26,180 --> 02:16:29,960
fewer than 4000 shelter beds,
and most nights, they're near

2364
02:16:29,960 --> 02:16:34,280
full, with a wait list of over
100 he's offering your shelter

2365
02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:37,100
bed. Yeah, so what are you going
to do? Are you going to

2366
02:16:37,100 --> 02:16:40,040
take it? Yeah, I'm going to take
it. But you know what? It's

2367
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:43,480
something where it's typical,
like, I won't do it, man, I want

2368
02:16:43,480 --> 02:16:47,140
to do it because I stayed in
prison 2022 years. Do you really

2369
02:16:47,140 --> 02:16:51,940
think I want to be closed up in
a room with bars? No, I don't

2370
02:16:52,300 --> 02:16:54,760
think so. I'd rather sleep
outside. Since

2371
02:16:54,760 --> 02:16:58,420
the Supreme Court's decision,
cities and towns and states

2372
02:16:58,420 --> 02:17:02,400
across the country are now
proposing passing and enforcing

2373
02:17:02,640 --> 02:17:06,900
anti camping laws across
California, state authorities

2374
02:17:07,260 --> 02:17:09,780
have started sweeping in camps.
I'm

2375
02:17:09,780 --> 02:17:13,320
here on behalf of 40 million
Californians that are fed up.

2376
02:17:13,860 --> 02:17:16,320
I'm here because I'm one of
them, but

2377
02:17:16,320 --> 02:17:20,160
more than 50 academics told the
Supreme Court there's no

2378
02:17:20,160 --> 02:17:24,440
evidence that criminalizing
homelessness works. In fact,

2379
02:17:24,440 --> 02:17:27,440
there's a lot of evidence that
it's counterproductive. It's

2380
02:17:27,440 --> 02:17:29,840
Adam Curry: all Brits, by the
way, who are representing your

2381
02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:30,380
news

2382
02:17:30,739 --> 02:17:34,939
Unknown: well, what we want to
be able to do is use the

2383
02:17:34,999 --> 02:17:38,899
penalties as a way to get people
to commit to going indoors. You

2384
02:17:38,899 --> 02:17:39,199
spent

2385
02:17:39,200 --> 02:17:42,580
a lot of money from the city
sweeping that same street. To

2386
02:17:42,580 --> 02:17:44,320
me, that is the definition of
matter. But

2387
02:17:44,320 --> 02:17:48,100
what I'm saying to you is the
next option that we have for

2388
02:17:48,100 --> 02:17:51,700
people who are refusing what
we're offering is we will be

2389
02:17:51,760 --> 02:17:55,900
citing, and you'll maybe, in the
next couple months, take a look

2390
02:17:55,900 --> 02:17:58,960
at our data and see whether or
not this is working, and if it's

2391
02:17:58,960 --> 02:18:02,340
working, we'll continue. If it's
not, we need to pivot and to try

2392
02:18:02,340 --> 02:18:03,960
something else. Pivot, pivot.

2393
02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:08,400
Adam Curry: Gonna pivot and try
something else, like

2394
02:18:08,400 --> 02:18:10,020
flamethrowers or something.

2395
02:18:11,280 --> 02:18:12,660
Unknown: This is, this is

2396
02:18:12,959 --> 02:18:15,719
John C Dvorak: what is citing
somebody that homeless or living

2397
02:18:15,719 --> 02:18:17,939
in a tent, they got no income,
they got no job, they got

2398
02:18:17,939 --> 02:18:20,959
nothing and you're gonna give
them a ticket there. Yeah,

2399
02:18:21,019 --> 02:18:22,159
there's a $20

2400
02:18:22,459 --> 02:18:27,079
Adam Curry: ticket. They have no
strategy. This is just, just

2401
02:18:27,079 --> 02:18:31,579
sweep them up, sweep under the
rug. It's no strategy. There's

2402
02:18:31,579 --> 02:18:36,919
no strategy. Turn Oakland into a
big, big park. It's not a

2403
02:18:36,919 --> 02:18:40,719
strategy. It's very sad. It is.
Well, they

2404
02:18:40,720 --> 02:18:43,480
John C Dvorak: let it, they let
it fester. That's the problem.

2405
02:18:43,540 --> 02:18:46,300
Well, it could have been solved
if they had stopped it a decade.

2406
02:18:46,300 --> 02:18:46,720
They let

2407
02:18:46,720 --> 02:18:48,760
Adam Curry: it fester for
political reasons.

2408
02:18:49,240 --> 02:18:51,580
John C Dvorak: That's what they
did. Democrats,

2409
02:18:51,640 --> 02:18:58,780
Adam Curry: yes, yes, yes. The
robbers den, you know, you

2410
02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:01,740
remember the knife attack and
souling in Germany.

2411
02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:05,640
John C Dvorak: Yes, in fact, I
have a clip that references it.

2412
02:19:05,700 --> 02:19:06,180
Oh, well, let

2413
02:19:06,180 --> 02:19:08,460
Adam Curry: me play the clip and
I can tell you some. Have some

2414
02:19:08,460 --> 02:19:11,640
interesting details. What is the
name of this clip?

2415
02:19:11,639 --> 02:19:12,899
John C Dvorak: That's a good
question.

2416
02:19:13,380 --> 02:19:15,720
Adam Curry: Well, you're the you
brought it up. Well,

2417
02:19:15,719 --> 02:19:17,039
John C Dvorak: I mean, you
tricked me.

2418
02:19:18,360 --> 02:19:22,820
Adam Curry: I did not trick you
into anything. Oh, here it is.

2419
02:19:23,000 --> 02:19:28,040
No, no. Do you have I don't see
a knives clip?

2420
02:19:28,820 --> 02:19:31,820
John C Dvorak: No, it's, it's
under it came at either my maybe

2421
02:19:31,820 --> 02:19:35,480
the UK NEWS it. Oh yeah, I think
it came out of here. This is

2422
02:19:35,480 --> 02:19:39,440
when I think this, yes, it's in
here. It's a two parter. It's UK

2423
02:19:39,440 --> 02:19:41,140
NEWS. It's about Starmer, oh

2424
02:19:41,139 --> 02:19:44,259
Adam Curry: yeah, hanging out
with the German dude. Yeah? Here

2425
02:19:44,319 --> 02:19:44,739
British

2426
02:19:44,740 --> 02:19:47,440
Unknown: Prime Minister Keir
Starmer is seeking to reset

2427
02:19:47,440 --> 02:19:50,680
relations with the European
Union as he meets in Berlin with

2428
02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:54,100
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.
The two leaders have agreed to

2429
02:19:54,100 --> 02:19:57,460
work on a treaty covering issues
from defense to trade. Yeah,

2430
02:19:57,460 --> 02:19:57,700
let's

2431
02:19:57,700 --> 02:19:58,960
Adam Curry: just say defense.

2432
02:19:59,200 --> 02:20:02,460
Unknown: I'm absolutely. Clear
that we do want a reset. I've

2433
02:20:02,460 --> 02:20:06,300
been able to repeat that here
today, a reset with Europe, a

2434
02:20:06,300 --> 02:20:11,820
reset with the EU. But that does
not mean reversing Brexit or

2435
02:20:11,820 --> 02:20:15,300
reentering the single market or
the Customs Union. Scholes

2436
02:20:15,300 --> 02:20:18,420
said Germany wanted to take this
outstretched hand.

2437
02:20:19,020 --> 02:20:20,340
The United Kingdom

2438
02:20:20,340 --> 02:20:23,480
has always been an indispensable
part of the solution to the

2439
02:20:23,480 --> 02:20:27,320
major issues affecting the whole
of Europe. This has not changed

2440
02:20:27,380 --> 02:20:30,620
since the UK left the European
Union. The

2441
02:20:30,620 --> 02:20:33,920
new Cooperation Treaty would
deepen collaboration in science,

2442
02:20:33,920 --> 02:20:36,980
technology, business and
culture, while increasing trade

2443
02:20:36,980 --> 02:20:40,040
and guns. Britain and Germany
said they hoped to sign the

2444
02:20:40,040 --> 02:20:43,780
Cooperation Treaty by early next
year, at the heart of

2445
02:20:43,780 --> 02:20:48,400
this treaty will be a new
defense agreement. There it is

2446
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:52,600
an agreement that builds upon
our already formidable defense

2447
02:20:52,600 --> 02:20:53,380
cooperation.

2448
02:20:53,740 --> 02:20:56,500
The deepening defense
cooperation comes ahead of a

2449
02:20:56,500 --> 02:21:00,300
possible scaling back of us
support for NATO if FORMER

2450
02:21:00,300 --> 02:21:03,540
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP returns
to the White House early next

2451
02:21:03,540 --> 02:21:07,380
year, Trump has said he would
not defend allies if they do not

2452
02:21:07,380 --> 02:21:09,180
increase their defense budgets.

2453
02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:12,180
Adam Curry: He don't think he
said that. Well, indirectly, he

2454
02:21:12,180 --> 02:21:15,180
says if you don't pay your fair
share, is what he said. But

2455
02:21:15,180 --> 02:21:17,940
yeah, it's a fair share thing.
Yeah. So where's the knife stuff

2456
02:21:17,940 --> 02:21:19,680
in the second clip? Here's the
second clip.

2457
02:21:19,680 --> 02:21:21,980
Unknown: Starmer also
highlighted cooperation on the

2458
02:21:21,980 --> 02:21:25,460
shared European challenge of
illegal immigration. The issue

2459
02:21:25,460 --> 02:21:28,820
is a hot topic in Germany at the
moment, following a knife attack

2460
02:21:28,820 --> 02:21:32,360
in zollingen that killed three
people and wounded eight more,

2461
02:21:32,540 --> 02:21:35,780
allegedly carried out by
suspected Islamic extremists

2462
02:21:35,780 --> 02:21:39,860
from Syria, Starmer reiterated
his plan to tackle the people

2463
02:21:39,860 --> 02:21:43,900
smuggling gangs behind the UK's
small boat crisis, which charged

2464
02:21:43,900 --> 02:21:47,140
migrants 1000s of dollars to
cross the sea from France to

2465
02:21:47,140 --> 02:21:50,740
Britain. He suggested the joint
action plan could involve

2466
02:21:50,740 --> 02:21:54,400
authorities intercepting boats
in transit across Europe to stop

2467
02:21:54,400 --> 02:21:56,620
them reaching the northern
French coast.

2468
02:21:57,880 --> 02:22:02,400
John C Dvorak: Have you ever
taken the before the Chunnel,

2469
02:22:02,880 --> 02:22:06,840
this very boat ferries across
the English Channel. It's

2470
02:22:06,840 --> 02:22:08,400
Adam Curry: called the vomit
Express.

2471
02:22:08,880 --> 02:22:11,340
John C Dvorak: It's
unbelievable. I don't do not

2472
02:22:11,340 --> 02:22:14,760
understand how a small boat can
make that trip. Well, a lot

2473
02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:18,360
Adam Curry: of them don't. I
guess a lot of them don't make

2474
02:22:18,360 --> 02:22:22,700
it. Well, back to the knife
attack, which was referenced in

2475
02:22:22,700 --> 02:22:26,060
that clip. I thought I
remembered the name Solingen. I

2476
02:22:26,060 --> 02:22:30,380
couldn't. I couldn't put my
finger on it. Do you know the

2477
02:22:30,380 --> 02:22:36,140
nickname of solingan, or what
they call it? No, the city of

2478
02:22:36,140 --> 02:22:40,340
knives, the Solingen knife
company comes from,

2479
02:22:40,340 --> 02:22:42,820
John C Dvorak: oh, that's there
is a nice Yes. It's

2480
02:22:42,820 --> 02:22:46,120
Adam Curry: called the city of
knives. Leave it to the city of

2481
02:22:46,120 --> 02:22:51,820
knives. Ironic, yes, the irony
is nuts. And now the the Berlin

2482
02:22:51,880 --> 02:22:57,880
police commissioner came out
with some tips and tricks to

2483
02:22:57,880 --> 02:23:02,220
employ if this happens and
you're around and someone is

2484
02:23:02,220 --> 02:23:06,780
going crazy, stabbing people.
The the police commissioner

2485
02:23:06,780 --> 02:23:12,480
said, Do something unexpected,
like making a phone call or

2486
02:23:12,480 --> 02:23:18,780
singing very loudly. This is,
this is the brilliant idea how

2487
02:23:18,780 --> 02:23:23,180
to thwart yourself from being
stabbed to death by a knife

2488
02:23:23,180 --> 02:23:33,200
attack. Just sing loudly. Oh
yes. And then this very sad news

2489
02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:35,780
from NPR regarding knives. All
right, here's

2490
02:23:35,780 --> 02:23:39,800
Unknown: a question, what is a
knife without a blade? That is

2491
02:23:39,800 --> 02:23:42,820
not a riddle or a Zen Buddhist
paradox? It's a question that

2492
02:23:42,820 --> 02:23:46,360
the maker of the Swiss Army
Knife has just answered in the

2493
02:23:46,360 --> 02:23:50,260
form of a new line of pocket
knives without blades, they

2494
02:23:50,260 --> 02:23:53,800
will still have the screwdriver
fear, not also the nail file,

2495
02:23:53,800 --> 02:23:57,700
the bottle opener, but not the
classic flip out blade.

2496
02:23:57,700 --> 02:24:01,080
Victorinox, the company behind
the ubiquitous multitool, has

2497
02:24:01,080 --> 02:24:04,440
made hundreds of millions of
Swiss Army knives since the late

2498
02:24:04,440 --> 02:24:07,260
19th century. But this is a
first. The

2499
02:24:07,260 --> 02:24:10,200
company's CEO told Swiss media
this week that the decision was

2500
02:24:10,200 --> 02:24:13,560
made because some countries have
increased the regulation of

2501
02:24:13,560 --> 02:24:15,480
knives in response to violent
crime.

2502
02:24:15,540 --> 02:24:18,300
Yeah, this is not the first time
Victoria Knox has had to pivot

2503
02:24:18,300 --> 02:24:22,520
based on current events when
sharp objects like pocket knives

2504
02:24:22,520 --> 02:24:26,180
were banned from planes after
911 the company leaned into

2505
02:24:26,180 --> 02:24:29,900
watches and luggage and leisure
wear and even fragrances. The

2506
02:24:29,900 --> 02:24:33,320
new bladeless pocket knives are
in development now, and

2507
02:24:33,320 --> 02:24:36,260
aficionados will still be able
to purchase the classic swiss

2508
02:24:36,260 --> 02:24:37,040
army knife.

2509
02:24:37,340 --> 02:24:41,620
Adam Curry: I love this story.
We should do hammers that are

2510
02:24:41,620 --> 02:24:46,900
just a piece of wood with no
head on it. It's a screwdriver

2511
02:24:46,900 --> 02:24:50,620
without a shaft. And what is a
Swiss Army Knife without a

2512
02:24:50,620 --> 02:24:51,340
blade?

2513
02:24:52,180 --> 02:24:54,160
Unknown: Dumb, yes.

2514
02:24:55,060 --> 02:24:57,820
Adam Curry: What I mean? What is
the world? And I remember we

2515
02:24:57,820 --> 02:24:59,920
used to say, hey, they're
banning knives in England. No.

2516
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:04,860
Not true. There's no knife
crime, yes, meanwhile, we're

2517
02:25:04,860 --> 02:25:08,280
running around with nine mils
everywhere. Yeah, it's

2518
02:25:08,280 --> 02:25:10,680
John C Dvorak: a better idea,
you know, because when you shoot

2519
02:25:10,680 --> 02:25:13,560
somebody, everybody notices,
because it makes a lot of noise.

2520
02:25:13,860 --> 02:25:16,740
It's very loud, it's very
noticeable. Yes, yeah. So you

2521
02:25:16,740 --> 02:25:19,260
can get out. You can run out of
the way with some of the knife

2522
02:25:19,800 --> 02:25:21,920
and people left it right? You
scatter? Yes,

2523
02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:25,160
Adam Curry: you can scatter.
Yeah, unless, of course, you're

2524
02:25:25,160 --> 02:25:28,460
President Trump and you know,
and you're just walking around

2525
02:25:28,460 --> 02:25:32,840
with a with an AR 15, and you're
hanging out. Did you hear the

2526
02:25:32,840 --> 02:25:35,840
latest details? You see they had
pictures of the gun, and

2527
02:25:35,960 --> 02:25:40,540
John C Dvorak: I have the FBI
investigate shooting NTD, which

2528
02:25:41,140 --> 02:25:42,400
details what they did. Well,

2529
02:25:42,400 --> 02:25:45,640
Adam Curry: let me play mine
first, because NTD is such a

2530
02:25:46,420 --> 02:25:50,080
John C Dvorak: doom. Yeah, there
they do to complete a job of

2531
02:25:50,080 --> 02:25:51,640
actually giving you the
information.

2532
02:25:51,640 --> 02:25:53,740
Adam Curry: Well, this is
there's only one little bit in

2533
02:25:53,740 --> 02:25:54,940
here that I think is good.

2534
02:25:55,060 --> 02:25:57,460
Unknown: The FBI giving an
update this afternoon on its

2535
02:25:57,460 --> 02:26:00,360
investigation into the
assassination attempt a former

2536
02:26:00,360 --> 02:26:02,880
President Donald Trump in
Butler, Pennsylvania, that

2537
02:26:02,880 --> 02:26:05,940
update, including the release of
some new pictures showing the

2538
02:26:05,940 --> 02:26:09,960
gun backpack and undetonated
explosive device belonging to

2539
02:26:09,960 --> 02:26:12,960
the shooter, Thomas crooks
investigators saying that they

2540
02:26:12,960 --> 02:26:16,200
have been able to conduct an
extensive analysis into the

2541
02:26:16,200 --> 02:26:20,100
research he conducted before the
attack. However, they say no

2542
02:26:20,100 --> 02:26:22,760
clear motive has emerged.
Investigators say crooks

2543
02:26:22,760 --> 02:26:26,720
searched the dates and locations
of campaign rallies for both

2544
02:26:26,720 --> 02:26:30,320
Trump and President Joe Biden
today, the FBI also saying that

2545
02:26:30,320 --> 02:26:34,700
crooks was on the roof for just
six minutes before he fired

2546
02:26:34,760 --> 02:26:38,360
eight rounds at the former
president. Trump's ear was

2547
02:26:38,360 --> 02:26:41,740
injured in that shooting, one
rally, goer was killed, two

2548
02:26:41,740 --> 02:26:42,940
others were injured.

2549
02:26:43,120 --> 02:26:48,160
Adam Curry: Oh, it was only six
minutes. Six minutes. Are you

2550
02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:51,820
kidding me? And listen to how
that was reported. Oh, it was

2551
02:26:51,820 --> 02:26:59,980
only six minutes. What he was on
the roof for six minutes. That's

2552
02:26:59,980 --> 02:27:01,860
outrageous. Six

2553
02:27:01,860 --> 02:27:04,680
John C Dvorak: minutes is a if
we stop talking right now for

2554
02:27:04,680 --> 02:27:09,840
six minutes, everyone would stop
tuning it did. Six minutes is a

2555
02:27:09,840 --> 02:27:15,360
long time, I agree, of
especially dead air. But so the

2556
02:27:15,360 --> 02:27:18,600
guy gets up on the roof. He's up
there for six minutes, I would

2557
02:27:18,600 --> 02:27:21,260
say, over five minutes before
anybody

2558
02:27:21,260 --> 02:27:23,660
Adam Curry: even saw him. No,
you just say only six is how you

2559
02:27:23,660 --> 02:27:24,620
report on it. Well,

2560
02:27:24,620 --> 02:27:27,740
John C Dvorak: that's the way to
report only six. But six is you

2561
02:27:27,740 --> 02:27:31,460
got all these guys, spotters,
guys, you know? Yeah,

2562
02:27:31,580 --> 02:27:34,460
Adam Curry: I mean, people do a,
you know, mechanical bull for

2563
02:27:34,460 --> 02:27:40,220
eight seconds. If that do I want
to play your NTD report or

2564
02:27:40,220 --> 02:27:41,320
didn't mind cover it? I

2565
02:27:41,320 --> 02:27:43,360
John C Dvorak: think it's pretty
much the same story. It's a

2566
02:27:43,360 --> 02:27:44,620
little longer. No,

2567
02:27:44,620 --> 02:27:46,840
Adam Curry: it's the same
length, 46 seconds.

2568
02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:50,740
John C Dvorak: No, it was the
same, basically the same story.

2569
02:27:50,860 --> 02:27:54,820
Okay, let's go to this catch up
with some campaigning news. Oh,

2570
02:27:55,720 --> 02:28:00,880
okay, what painting?

2571
02:28:01,180 --> 02:28:06,960
Adam Curry: Oh, they were I
missed the queue. I'm queue

2572
02:28:06,960 --> 02:28:09,420
Unknown: you look queueless.
Vice President Harris is in

2573
02:28:09,420 --> 02:28:12,540
Georgia. Former President Donald
Trump is holding campaign events

2574
02:28:12,540 --> 02:28:16,080
in battleground states this
week, the very states that could

2575
02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:19,800
decide the election. NTDs
Washington correspondent Jack

2576
02:28:19,800 --> 02:28:22,400
Bradley has an update on Trump's
campaign. Former

2577
02:28:22,400 --> 02:28:25,760
President Trump is holding
campaign events this week in key

2578
02:28:25,760 --> 02:28:28,880
battleground states. Nothing is
scheduled for the former

2579
02:28:28,880 --> 02:28:32,300
president but his running mate,
Ohio Senator JD Vance, has two

2580
02:28:32,300 --> 02:28:35,840
rallies today. He's speaking in
Erie, Pennsylvania and in De

2581
02:28:35,840 --> 02:28:39,800
Pere, Wisconsin. Tomorrow, Trump
is holding a town hall in La

2582
02:28:39,800 --> 02:28:43,660
Crosse, Wisconsin, and on
Friday, a rally in johnsontown,

2583
02:28:43,660 --> 02:28:46,480
Pennsylvania, Trump said he'll
be attending the scheduled

2584
02:28:46,480 --> 02:28:49,840
presidential debate hosted by
ABC on September 10 in

2585
02:28:49,840 --> 02:28:53,140
Philadelphia. He initially
wanted to ensure the same rules

2586
02:28:53,140 --> 02:28:56,980
as the debate with CNN with
President Biden, rules,

2587
02:28:56,980 --> 02:28:59,560
including that candidates
microphones should be muted

2588
02:28:59,560 --> 02:29:02,580
while the other is speaking, and
they will be standing and they

2589
02:29:02,580 --> 02:29:06,540
cannot bring notes. RFK, Jr, who
recently dropped out of the

2590
02:29:06,540 --> 02:29:09,720
presidential race and endorsed
Trump, has pulled his name off

2591
02:29:09,720 --> 02:29:13,140
the ballots in several states.
He remains on the ballots in

2592
02:29:13,140 --> 02:29:16,680
Michigan and Wisconsin, both of
them swing states, even though

2593
02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:19,800
Kennedy tried to remove his
name, state laws don't allow it.

2594
02:29:19,800 --> 02:29:23,180
It will be interesting to see if
that actually impacts the votes.

2595
02:29:23,300 --> 02:29:26,600
Now this all comes as Trump's
campaign added Kennedy and Tulsi

2596
02:29:26,600 --> 02:29:29,780
Gabbard to his presidential
transition team. Gabbard is a

2597
02:29:29,780 --> 02:29:32,540
former Democratic Congresswoman
from Hawaii who ran for

2598
02:29:32,540 --> 02:29:33,560
president in 2020

2599
02:29:34,520 --> 02:29:37,820
Adam Curry: Okay, a couple
things. One, I think we should

2600
02:29:38,360 --> 02:29:41,860
analyze and think for a moment
about the next person who will

2601
02:29:41,860 --> 02:29:46,900
join the Trump campaign? There
has to be more. They can't be

2602
02:29:46,900 --> 02:29:50,380
shooting their all their wad on
RFK Jr in Tulsa. We've got to

2603
02:29:50,380 --> 02:29:51,460
have more coming in.

2604
02:29:52,540 --> 02:29:54,820
John C Dvorak: Oh, don't you
think that I never considered

2605
02:29:54,820 --> 02:29:55,060
this?

2606
02:29:55,060 --> 02:29:57,400
Adam Curry: Oh, there's got to
be another big name that joins.

2607
02:29:57,400 --> 02:30:01,200
It has to be a surprise, like
Alfred. Lincoln. That'll never

2608
02:30:01,200 --> 02:30:06,960
happen, but someone, someone of
great stature. Could there be

2609
02:30:06,960 --> 02:30:10,740
anyone who is not a complete

2610
02:30:11,400 --> 02:30:18,120
John C Dvorak: for it to be,
which is rare in that party, but

2611
02:30:18,120 --> 02:30:24,680
it has to be a disaffected
person uh, who sees it. It'll

2612
02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:29,600
reveal. It's the reveal will
take place after the debate, and

2613
02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:32,600
it will depend on how the
performance of Kamala goes. You

2614
02:30:32,600 --> 02:30:35,420
know, they kept trying to force
the idea that she could have

2615
02:30:35,420 --> 02:30:38,960
notes, and you know what that
means? She'd have a big binder

2616
02:30:39,200 --> 02:30:43,120
with tabs, a big, giant binder
with tabs, and she'd be flipping

2617
02:30:43,120 --> 02:30:45,160
it over and reading from these
notes.

2618
02:30:45,280 --> 02:30:47,620
Adam Curry: We, but we, I think
we need someone from show

2619
02:30:47,620 --> 02:30:52,540
business like Clooney, which
will never happen, but he's out

2620
02:30:52,600 --> 02:30:57,640
no but that level, someone,
someone big, maybe not. I mean,

2621
02:30:57,700 --> 02:30:58,060
this

2622
02:30:58,120 --> 02:31:00,540
John C Dvorak: show business
doesn't really have a I mean,

2623
02:31:00,540 --> 02:31:03,780
has no cash. I don't think this
is impactful, and it's and these

2624
02:31:03,780 --> 02:31:10,800
people are all pathetic, yeah, I
don't know. I don't see anybody

2625
02:31:10,800 --> 02:31:14,160
on the horizon. It'd be, it's a
good I like the idea, oh, he

2626
02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:16,860
Adam Curry: needs it. He needs
to do it. It has to be seen. How

2627
02:31:16,920 --> 02:31:20,180
about, how about Mike Rowe? Mike
Rowe would be a good one.

2628
02:31:21,800 --> 02:31:24,800
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but Mike
Rose already voting for him. Is

2629
02:31:24,800 --> 02:31:27,920
he, far as I can tell, he's a
Republican, yeah,

2630
02:31:28,400 --> 02:31:30,860
Adam Curry: okay, Mike Rowe
won't work. How about Bill

2631
02:31:30,860 --> 02:31:31,340
Maher?

2632
02:31:33,560 --> 02:31:36,800
John C Dvorak: That would be
interesting. I'll give you that

2633
02:31:36,800 --> 02:31:40,300
one. Bill Maher, but he hates
Trump so much that for him to

2634
02:31:40,300 --> 02:31:46,540
change, to change at this point.
Would it would be incredible,

2635
02:31:46,720 --> 02:31:50,620
yeah, I just don't see it. I
mean, it would be great, but I

2636
02:31:50,980 --> 02:31:56,020
he's such, he's such a
ideologue, yeah, and he really

2637
02:31:56,020 --> 02:31:58,900
hates Trump. He says, Yeah,
hates Trump, yeah,

2638
02:31:58,960 --> 02:32:01,920
Adam Curry: yeah, visceral well,
but he can still say, I hate

2639
02:32:01,920 --> 02:32:03,840
him, but he's got the right
ideas.

2640
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:05,640
John C Dvorak: He could do that.

2641
02:32:07,980 --> 02:32:10,920
Adam Curry: And I saw this. I
saw an ad for this on X or it

2642
02:32:10,920 --> 02:32:13,860
wasn't an ad, because I have
premium free.

2643
02:32:14,580 --> 02:32:16,200
John C Dvorak: Oh, you paid. No,
I

2644
02:32:16,200 --> 02:32:18,660
Adam Curry: got it for free
because I you'd say I got the

2645
02:32:18,660 --> 02:32:21,620
blue check mark. You have the
blue check mark too. You don't

2646
02:32:21,620 --> 02:32:25,100
get to leave. You don't get ads.
I don't get any ads. You get

2647
02:32:25,940 --> 02:32:27,860
John C Dvorak: ads. I mean, once
in a while I think there's an ad

2648
02:32:27,860 --> 02:32:29,180
in there. No, I think

2649
02:32:29,180 --> 02:32:32,960
Adam Curry: it's just, I think
it's just a post. And I thought

2650
02:32:32,960 --> 02:32:36,560
it was a joke, but it wasn't.
Hello, everyone.

2651
02:32:36,560 --> 02:32:39,740
Unknown: This is your favorite
president, Donald J Trump, with

2652
02:32:39,740 --> 02:32:44,020
some very exciting news, by
popular demand, I'm doing a new

2653
02:32:44,020 --> 02:32:47,380
series of Trump digital trading
cards. You all know what they

2654
02:32:47,380 --> 02:32:50,320
are. We've had a lot of fun with
them. It's called the America

2655
02:32:50,320 --> 02:32:54,580
first collection, 50 all new,
Stunning Digital trading cards.

2656
02:32:54,580 --> 02:32:57,820
It's really something. These
cards show me dancing and even

2657
02:32:57,820 --> 02:33:02,040
me holding some bitcoins. Here's
the best part, I'm doing great

2658
02:33:02,040 --> 02:33:06,540
things for my trump digital card
collectors. First, there's the

2659
02:33:06,540 --> 02:33:10,920
real physical trump cards.
Purchase 15 or more of my trump

2660
02:33:10,920 --> 02:33:15,240
digital trading cards and we'll
mail you a beautiful physical

2661
02:33:15,240 --> 02:33:18,960
trading card. It's really, I
think, quite something. Each

2662
02:33:18,960 --> 02:33:22,640
physical trading card has an
authentic piece of my suit that

2663
02:33:22,640 --> 02:33:26,060
I wore for the presidential
debate, and people are calling

2664
02:33:26,060 --> 02:33:28,760
it the knockout suit. I don't
know about that, but that's what

2665
02:33:28,760 --> 02:33:32,780
they're calling it. So we'll cut
up the knockout suit, and you're

2666
02:33:32,780 --> 02:33:36,260
going to get a piece of it, and
we'll be randomly autographing

2667
02:33:36,260 --> 02:33:40,660
five of them, a true collector's
item. This is something to give

2668
02:33:40,660 --> 02:33:44,140
your family, your kids, your
grandchildren. Number two is to

2669
02:33:44,140 --> 02:33:48,940
purchase 75 of my trump digital
trading cards, and you will also

2670
02:33:48,940 --> 02:33:52,900
be invited to join me for a gala
dinner at my beautiful country

2671
02:33:52,900 --> 02:33:56,800
club in Jupiter, Florida. We
really have tremendous dinners

2672
02:33:56,800 --> 02:33:59,860
with my collectors. Have a lot
of fun together. We're gonna

2673
02:33:59,860 --> 02:34:00,520
have a good time.

2674
02:34:00,760 --> 02:34:02,160
Adam Curry: Okay, so I need to
say a

2675
02:34:02,160 --> 02:34:06,000
John C Dvorak: few things about
this unbelievable. First of all,

2676
02:34:06,060 --> 02:34:08,160
this definitely tops the Bible,
by the way,

2677
02:34:08,700 --> 02:34:10,920
Adam Curry: yeah, well, the
Bible, he was just endorsing. He

2678
02:34:10,920 --> 02:34:15,600
wasn't actually selling it, but
this, he's selling and so these

2679
02:34:15,600 --> 02:34:21,380
are nfts, which is exactly the
opposite of what the Bitcoin

2680
02:34:21,440 --> 02:34:25,220
people want, which is just dumb.
And then they say, Oh, I even

2681
02:34:25,220 --> 02:34:29,000
got some bitcoins or whatever,
but these are nfts. Gary Gensler

2682
02:34:29,000 --> 02:34:34,040
has just come out and said nfts
are securities, so he can expect

2683
02:34:34,400 --> 02:34:39,020
another lawsuit. Oh, yep,
they're unregistered securities.

2684
02:34:39,020 --> 02:34:43,360
You watch. He came out with it
yesterday, and and it's true. Of

2685
02:34:43,360 --> 02:34:46,900
course, they are, they are
unregistered securities because

2686
02:34:46,900 --> 02:34:50,920
you can trade them. Hello.
They're called trading cards. So

2687
02:34:50,920 --> 02:34:54,400
John C Dvorak: Pokemon card is
like, NFT is now going to be

2688
02:34:54,520 --> 02:34:58,000
subject to, uh, Securities
Exchange Commission. Are you

2689
02:34:58,000 --> 02:34:58,660
telling me that?

2690
02:34:58,660 --> 02:35:02,400
Adam Curry: No, because the. The
Those are real cards. This is

2691
02:35:02,400 --> 02:35:05,460
the digit. It's an NFT. It's a
little different than a Pokemon

2692
02:35:05,460 --> 02:35:10,560
Trading Card. It's the same
with, with all these cryptos,

2693
02:35:10,560 --> 02:35:13,140
they're all, they're all,
they've all been deemed not

2694
02:35:13,200 --> 02:35:16,200
commodities. But they except for
Bitcoin, they've been deemed

2695
02:35:16,800 --> 02:35:23,960
securities. I'm just, I'm just
analyzing. It's obvious what's

2696
02:35:23,960 --> 02:35:24,920
going to happen. Yeah, they're

2697
02:35:24,920 --> 02:35:26,480
John C Dvorak: gonna sue him.
He's gonna make a fuss. And

2698
02:35:26,660 --> 02:35:29,360
maybe it was designed for that,
but

2699
02:35:29,360 --> 02:35:34,820
Adam Curry: it's dumb and so and
they cost $99 Yes, $7,500 you

2700
02:35:34,820 --> 02:35:39,980
get invited to the gala. Okay,
well, you can just donate $7,500

2701
02:35:40,880 --> 02:35:43,120
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
Well, maybe he just said it. I

2702
02:35:43,120 --> 02:35:45,160
know what the price? Oh yeah,
well, there'll be a bit. That

2703
02:35:45,160 --> 02:35:47,800
means there'll be a the place
will be packed with people, and

2704
02:35:47,800 --> 02:35:49,060
you'll never get to meet him.

2705
02:35:49,120 --> 02:35:53,020
Adam Curry: Yeah, no, no, that's
75,000 to meet him for a

2706
02:35:53,020 --> 02:35:53,620
picture.

2707
02:35:54,280 --> 02:35:54,640
Unknown: Oh yeah,

2708
02:35:54,880 --> 02:36:00,180
Adam Curry: he knows what he's
doing. Um, poll Paul came out

2709
02:36:00,240 --> 02:36:03,960
according to Axios, more
Americans embrace covid Vax

2710
02:36:04,020 --> 02:36:07,980
untruths, which is an
interesting choice of words,

2711
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:12,420
John C Dvorak: untruths. Yeah.
Big picture the finding they

2712
02:36:12,420 --> 02:36:16,200
don't, so they say they don't
embrace covid lies. Yes, the big

2713
02:36:16,200 --> 02:36:18,900
Adam Curry: picture, says Axios.
The findings from the University

2714
02:36:18,900 --> 02:36:21,800
of Pennsylvania's Annenberg
Public Policy Center are further

2715
02:36:21,800 --> 02:36:25,100
evidence of how intense backlash
to the government's at times

2716
02:36:25,100 --> 02:36:29,180
muddled covid response eroded
trust in public health,

2717
02:36:29,360 --> 02:36:33,140
jeopardizing preparedness
efforts to address future crises

2718
02:36:33,200 --> 02:36:38,960
of mosquitoes. What they found,
28% of respondents to the survey

2719
02:36:38,960 --> 02:36:43,180
incorrectly believed that covid
19 vaccines have been

2720
02:36:43,180 --> 02:36:46,600
responsible for 1000s of deaths.
Wait,

2721
02:36:47,860 --> 02:36:50,080
John C Dvorak: how can you
incorrectly believe?

2722
02:36:50,140 --> 02:36:53,680
Adam Curry: Thank you. I'm glad
you caught that they incorrectly

2723
02:36:53,740 --> 02:36:54,400
you believe

2724
02:36:54,400 --> 02:36:56,260
John C Dvorak: something. You
just believe it. You believe it.

2725
02:36:56,440 --> 02:37:00,540
I believe that the sky is green.
You're incorrectly would go like

2726
02:37:00,540 --> 02:37:04,080
this. I believe he believes the
sky is green, although he's

2727
02:37:04,080 --> 02:37:04,980
incorrect. They

2728
02:37:04,980 --> 02:37:06,960
Adam Curry: should have said
Believe, without evidence,

2729
02:37:09,540 --> 02:37:11,640
John C Dvorak: my favorite
phrase, it turns out this is

2730
02:37:11,640 --> 02:37:16,020
Adam Curry: up from 22% in June.
2021 the percentage, oh, who

2731
02:37:16,020 --> 02:37:21,080
know this is falling? Okay, so
the percentage who know this is

2732
02:37:21,080 --> 02:37:31,460
false declined to 55% from 66%
22% believe the false idea that

2733
02:37:31,460 --> 02:37:35,180
it's false idea, listen to this,
that it's safer to get a covid

2734
02:37:35,180 --> 02:37:39,200
infection than to get the
vaccine. Up from 10% in April

2735
02:37:39,200 --> 02:37:43,420
2021, months after the covid
shots were rolled out, the

2736
02:37:43,420 --> 02:37:47,560
percentage of those incorrectly
believing that the covid 19

2737
02:37:47,560 --> 02:37:52,600
vaccine changes dn people's DNA
nearly doubled to 15% from 8%

2738
02:37:53,500 --> 02:37:57,820
Wow, you stupid Americans.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.

2739
02:37:59,740 --> 02:38:03,000
Meanwhile, I'd like to get some
confirmation on this, because it

2740
02:38:03,000 --> 02:38:12,000
comes from a sub stack in August
3333 nurses died suddenly.

2741
02:38:12,540 --> 02:38:14,640
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
what's his name? There's one guy

2742
02:38:14,640 --> 02:38:18,600
I can't remember his name off
hand. Who? Dark Mark Crispin

2743
02:38:18,600 --> 02:38:21,260
Miller. Mark Crispin, yeah,
yeah. Miller, is

2744
02:38:21,260 --> 02:38:22,100
Adam Curry: he full of crap?

2745
02:38:23,420 --> 02:38:25,760
John C Dvorak: All this is all
he does. No, he's not full of

2746
02:38:25,760 --> 02:38:30,200
crap. Okay? He just documents
every buddy he can find who died

2747
02:38:30,200 --> 02:38:32,960
before the age of 70, even
though he does it goes beyond

2748
02:38:32,960 --> 02:38:36,140
that too, uh, who they don't
have a cause of death, and he

2749
02:38:36,140 --> 02:38:39,320
just lists them all as as people
who died from the VAX. Well,

2750
02:38:39,320 --> 02:38:39,500
he's

2751
02:38:39,500 --> 02:38:41,380
Adam Curry: not saying that.
He's not, no,

2752
02:38:41,500 --> 02:38:42,880
John C Dvorak: it's what he No,
well, I'm

2753
02:38:42,880 --> 02:38:45,820
Adam Curry: implying, implying
it. Was implying it, yes, with

2754
02:38:45,820 --> 02:38:46,300
died. So

2755
02:38:46,300 --> 02:38:49,900
John C Dvorak: he's not saying
it, but he's, that's what he's

2756
02:38:50,020 --> 02:38:50,680
saying. Well,

2757
02:38:50,680 --> 02:38:52,360
Adam Curry: we have a lot of
nurses and doctors who are

2758
02:38:52,360 --> 02:38:55,660
producers. I'd love to hear if
they, if they are seeing similar

2759
02:38:55,660 --> 02:38:59,800
numbers of of their their
colleagues dying suddenly. I

2760
02:38:59,800 --> 02:39:01,980
John C Dvorak: know a lot of
these colleagues have quit the

2761
02:39:01,980 --> 02:39:05,220
business because they wouldn't
get this shot. Because what they

2762
02:39:05,220 --> 02:39:09,060
saw from people who did get this
shot, and the next thing you

2763
02:39:09,060 --> 02:39:11,400
know, they had to get the shot,
they said, No, I'm not going to

2764
02:39:11,400 --> 02:39:14,640
get the shot. I'm out of here.
And that's caused the problem,

2765
02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:19,500
same as in the military, with
people who quit Baron sir

2766
02:39:19,500 --> 02:39:23,060
Adam Curry: spud the mighty says
that x apparently still banning.

2767
02:39:23,060 --> 02:39:26,600
The hashtag died suddenly, what
I thought it was free speech

2768
02:39:26,600 --> 02:39:34,460
over there as Linda, Linda the
knob twiddler Can't trust Linda.

2769
02:39:35,480 --> 02:39:39,620
And then our Surgeon General
came out with an interesting

2770
02:39:40,280 --> 02:39:44,380
statement this week, as
summarized in this clip,

2771
02:39:44,380 --> 02:39:46,780
Unknown: I don't think it's a
surprise that parenthood is

2772
02:39:46,840 --> 02:39:47,500
stressful. I

2773
02:39:47,500 --> 02:39:50,440
think Desiree Terry is the
mother of three children.

2774
02:39:50,500 --> 02:39:53,380
I think we've all been feeling
it for a really long time, and

2775
02:39:53,380 --> 02:39:56,620
it's wonderful to actually have
some numbers to back it up.

2776
02:39:56,680 --> 02:39:59,260
Terry is talking about the
findings in a new surgeon

2777
02:39:59,260 --> 02:40:04,260
general advice. Three. Dr Vivek
Murthy says 48% of parents feel

2778
02:40:04,260 --> 02:40:07,380
completely overwhelmed. That
tells us we've got a real

2779
02:40:07,380 --> 02:40:09,720
challenge, and there's a lot
that's driving that. You know,

2780
02:40:09,720 --> 02:40:12,180
parents are they're not only
contending with the usual

2781
02:40:12,180 --> 02:40:14,880
stressors that come with being a
parent, worrying about finances

2782
02:40:14,880 --> 02:40:17,820
and safety, but they're also
worried about how to manage

2783
02:40:17,820 --> 02:40:20,600
social media and phones for
their kids. Associate

2784
02:40:20,600 --> 02:40:24,080
Professor of child psychiatry at
the University of Chicago, Dr

2785
02:40:24,080 --> 02:40:27,860
Holland. F Zell says parents'
well being is crucial when it

2786
02:40:27,860 --> 02:40:31,880
comes to a child's well being. F
Zell also says the finding about

2787
02:40:31,880 --> 02:40:35,000
the role of social media in a
parent's life was very

2788
02:40:35,000 --> 02:40:39,320
revealing. Murthy also says
employers should provide more

2789
02:40:39,320 --> 02:40:42,460
paid leave for parents and
access to affordable childcare

2790
02:40:42,700 --> 02:40:46,840
and have policies in place that
support parents and their mental

2791
02:40:46,840 --> 02:40:47,140
health.

2792
02:40:48,160 --> 02:40:52,300
Adam Curry: What kind of
psychological warfare is this? I

2793
02:40:52,300 --> 02:40:57,940
don't know so well. Don't Have
Kids. What it sounds like to me?

2794
02:40:58,000 --> 02:41:02,520
Oh, if you weren't worried
enough about the cost and social

2795
02:41:02,520 --> 02:41:07,140
media. It's going to stress you
out. Yes, my daughter just

2796
02:41:07,140 --> 02:41:11,040
turned 34 I'm still stressed
out. That's what you do as a

2797
02:41:11,040 --> 02:41:13,380
parent. It's one of the joys.
That's why I want them all to

2798
02:41:13,380 --> 02:41:16,020
have kids, to get back at them

2799
02:41:18,060 --> 02:41:21,800
Unknown: and laugh. What do you
think it is?

2800
02:41:22,520 --> 02:41:27,320
John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
Psychological Warfare nuts. Cut

2801
02:41:27,320 --> 02:41:28,220
off. There you go.

2802
02:41:30,200 --> 02:41:32,660
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, that'll do
it. Do you want to play one more

2803
02:41:32,660 --> 02:41:34,340
clip or so? Just go straight
into the

2804
02:41:35,600 --> 02:41:38,660
John C Dvorak: just from a gut
felt show. This is a I'm

2805
02:41:38,660 --> 02:41:41,980
wondering, if you can guess,
this is Tom Chalu was the host.

2806
02:41:41,980 --> 02:41:46,480
He's a funny comic who does
Biden as an imitation. He's very

2807
02:41:46,480 --> 02:41:51,700
good at it. This is hobbies that
turn off women. Oh, but before

2808
02:41:51,700 --> 02:41:54,880
we play it, what? What would you
guess? Podcaster

2809
02:41:54,880 --> 02:41:58,720
Adam Curry: and day trader,
let's listen.

2810
02:41:59,080 --> 02:42:02,700
John C Dvorak: Those aren't
hobbies. Those are vocations.

2811
02:42:03,240 --> 02:42:06,720
The Internet gets reactive to
hobbies deemed unattractive.

2812
02:42:06,840 --> 02:42:07,440
Tonight, we

2813
02:42:07,440 --> 02:42:10,200
Unknown: examine a viral social
media post purportedly ranking

2814
02:42:10,200 --> 02:42:14,820
men's hobbies by how attractive
they're perceived by women. And

2815
02:42:14,820 --> 02:42:16,320
much to my dismay, wait a
minute.

2816
02:42:16,320 --> 02:42:19,320
Adam Curry: Let me think. Let me
think collecting Star Wars

2817
02:42:19,320 --> 02:42:22,220
figurines. Is that on the list?
Yes,

2818
02:42:22,220 --> 02:42:23,480
John C Dvorak: ah, I

2819
02:42:23,480 --> 02:42:29,300
Adam Curry: got one another one
would be Star Wars figurines,

2820
02:42:29,300 --> 02:42:32,600
video gaming. Video gaming. Oh,
you, you

2821
02:42:32,600 --> 02:42:34,160
John C Dvorak: saw this? No, no,
I

2822
02:42:34,160 --> 02:42:36,080
Adam Curry: did not. I'm just
thinking of what I find

2823
02:42:36,080 --> 02:42:37,040
detestable. Hosting

2824
02:42:37,040 --> 02:42:41,200
Unknown: Gutfeld is near the
bottom of the list. Now, we

2825
02:42:41,200 --> 02:42:44,440
couldn't verify the scientific
authenticity of this poll, but

2826
02:42:44,440 --> 02:42:49,360
when has that stopped us?
According to the chicks of this

2827
02:42:49,360 --> 02:42:53,620
chart, playing video games is
the number one fast track to the

2828
02:42:53,620 --> 02:42:57,340
friend zone, followed by things
like collecting figurines, doing

2829
02:42:57,340 --> 02:43:01,140
magic, gambling and even
building model trains.

2830
02:43:03,660 --> 02:43:08,280
Adam Curry: You're four for
four, don't you have model

2831
02:43:08,280 --> 02:43:12,000
trains? I know you've got a
model train set. So, yeah,

2832
02:43:12,240 --> 02:43:13,920
you've got when

2833
02:43:13,920 --> 02:43:16,860
John C Dvorak: I was a kid
collecting, I like trains a lot.

2834
02:43:16,860 --> 02:43:19,920
I didn't build model trains,
necessarily, but I do have, have

2835
02:43:19,980 --> 02:43:27,140
kept an engine from the 50s that
probably is worth something, but

2836
02:43:27,140 --> 02:43:30,440
I haven't sold it, so it
doesn't, can't prove anything,

2837
02:43:31,280 --> 02:43:36,380
but I know guys as adults that
do trains, and I do, and I do

2838
02:43:36,380 --> 02:43:39,320
enjoy seeing a good train
layout. It's very fascinating.

2839
02:43:39,320 --> 02:43:39,620
There's a

2840
02:43:39,620 --> 02:43:43,540
Adam Curry: very famous used to
be disc jockey in Holland, Eric

2841
02:43:43,600 --> 02:43:48,640
gsvart, and he came up a little
bit before me, and he wound up

2842
02:43:49,720 --> 02:43:53,620
being co owner of a very big,
very popular radio station. Once

2843
02:43:53,620 --> 02:43:59,500
commercial stations were radio
538, and he is all he, I mean,

2844
02:43:59,500 --> 02:44:02,760
he has a train in his backyard
that he can sit on.

2845
02:44:03,240 --> 02:44:05,940
John C Dvorak: Oh, that that's
Walt. Disney had one

2846
02:44:07,080 --> 02:44:11,340
Adam Curry: of those and and so
now he's, I think he's obviously

2847
02:44:11,340 --> 02:44:13,980
still a shareholder, but I don't
think he works necessarily

2848
02:44:13,980 --> 02:44:17,400
anymore in the radio business.
He's probably about five years

2849
02:44:17,400 --> 02:44:24,140
older than me, and now he drives
the tram. He's a tram conductor

2850
02:44:24,200 --> 02:44:28,580
in, I think, in, I don't know if
it's Rotterdam or Amsterdam, and

2851
02:44:28,580 --> 02:44:31,460
he's always posting pictures.
Well, going to work today, gonna

2852
02:44:31,460 --> 02:44:32,420
drive the tram.

2853
02:44:36,320 --> 02:44:39,800
John C Dvorak: Wow, that's a guy
who's dedicated to much

2854
02:44:41,000 --> 02:44:44,560
something about it. Yeah, train,
you know, train and pushing the

2855
02:44:44,620 --> 02:44:46,480
lever and making it go, yeah,
there's

2856
02:44:46,480 --> 02:44:48,640
Adam Curry: no evidence. He
hangs out with hot chicks.

2857
02:44:49,660 --> 02:44:50,920
Unknown: Oh, my God, listen

2858
02:44:52,840 --> 02:44:57,280
to that horn. I'm gonna show my
sword by donating to no agenda.

2859
02:44:57,460 --> 02:45:00,600
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah. Be fun well,

2860
02:45:07,740 --> 02:45:10,320
Adam Curry: we have a lot of fun
things to talk about. We have a

2861
02:45:10,380 --> 02:45:16,740
nice, stacked birthday list. We
have a number of of produced

2862
02:45:16,740 --> 02:45:21,020
meetup reports. Which are, I
like them. I like it when people

2863
02:45:21,020 --> 02:45:23,780
produce them, but we've had a
lot of very successful meetups.

2864
02:45:24,020 --> 02:45:26,540
And of course, we have the tip
of the day and our end of show

2865
02:45:26,540 --> 02:45:29,240
mixes. But first we're going to
thank our producers who came in

2866
02:45:29,480 --> 02:45:32,300
above $50 below. We don't
mention for reasons of

2867
02:45:32,300 --> 02:45:35,720
anonymity, and as always, we
have people on there who are on

2868
02:45:35,720 --> 02:45:38,360
the sustaining donations
program, which can get you to

2869
02:45:38,360 --> 02:45:41,020
knighthood. It happens all the
time. John, would you please

2870
02:45:41,020 --> 02:45:42,700
read us through down to the 50s?

2871
02:45:43,060 --> 02:45:45,160
John C Dvorak: I'll read a few
before you have to read one

2872
02:45:45,160 --> 02:45:49,900
which is starting with Curtis
Richie and sure burn New York

2873
02:45:49,900 --> 02:45:52,900
came in with 100 bucks, and
right away, right at the top is

2874
02:45:52,900 --> 02:45:56,980
Kevin McLaughlin in Concord,
North Carolina, 808. Is the

2875
02:45:57,100 --> 02:46:02,460
Archduke of Luna. Now we have a
night, and we we will read these

2876
02:46:02,460 --> 02:46:05,520
notes when they come in at these
low levels. And this is

2877
02:46:05,520 --> 02:46:11,220
Christian rule ish In Winter
Haven Florida, 808 he says,

2878
02:46:11,220 --> 02:46:13,860
Adam Curry: Hey fellas, so many
puppies to feed this week, I've

2879
02:46:13,860 --> 02:46:17,340
sent my donation of 808 through
the usual method. And after some

2880
02:46:17,340 --> 02:46:19,980
careful accounting, I'm a Knight
of the no agenda show. Very

2881
02:46:19,980 --> 02:46:23,780
exciting, much, muchly happy,
and accounting is below. If it's

2882
02:46:23,780 --> 02:46:26,120
okay with the peerage committee,
I wish to be referred to as Sir

2883
02:46:26,120 --> 02:46:29,360
loin of the Winter Haven from
here on. That's fine for the

2884
02:46:29,360 --> 02:46:32,840
round table. I would like
Skyline chili, four way bean and

2885
02:46:32,840 --> 02:46:36,740
Jamison, Blackberry whiskey,
black barrel whiskey. We have

2886
02:46:36,740 --> 02:46:38,780
both of those for you lined up
at the table. It's been a

2887
02:46:38,780 --> 02:46:41,020
genuine pleasure listening to
John and his various

2888
02:46:41,020 --> 02:46:44,680
interpretations of pronunciation
of my last name to aid John with

2889
02:46:44,680 --> 02:46:48,100
future donations, he may just
refer to me as sir loin of

2890
02:46:48,100 --> 02:46:51,280
Winterhaven on my way to
becoming a Duke. Well, please

2891
02:46:52,000 --> 02:46:55,480
mention that in your future
donations so we get that right.

2892
02:46:55,900 --> 02:46:59,380
God bless you both. You are true
patriots of our great country,

2893
02:46:59,440 --> 02:47:03,300
Sincerely and respectfully
Christian grulich Sirloin of

2894
02:47:03,300 --> 02:47:06,660
Winterhaven. PS, and for a
winning resume that'll get you

2895
02:47:06,660 --> 02:47:10,320
noticed, contact the lovely
Lyndon lupatkin at imagemakers,

2896
02:47:10,320 --> 02:47:15,300
inc.com That's imagemakers.com
inc.com with a K and enter code

2897
02:47:15,300 --> 02:47:17,520
Bongino to see what happens
next.

2898
02:47:22,920 --> 02:47:26,840
John C Dvorak: Ah, uh, Bart
Hendricks is next. Uh, he's in

2899
02:47:27,980 --> 02:47:35,540
part, heritan Holland, $75
Hareton, that's good. Uh, Dana

2900
02:47:35,720 --> 02:47:42,460
Carroll in Laughlin, Nevada,
7227 Borge Alvarez in Ponte.

2901
02:47:42,460 --> 02:47:49,300
Verdra Beach, Florida, 7171
Craig Kohler in Evansville,

2902
02:47:49,300 --> 02:47:53,860
Indiana, 6502 and these are the
following. Lindy, well, we got

2903
02:47:53,860 --> 02:47:56,860
Gaucho woodworking, of course.
Look them up. They're listed on

2904
02:47:56,860 --> 02:48:00,960
the Google Gaucho woodworking.
They make great cutting boards

2905
02:48:00,960 --> 02:48:06,180
and such. Redondo Beach,
California, 6352 this is a karma

2906
02:48:06,180 --> 02:48:09,960
for Adam's birthday. And it says
my birthday, plus my right knee

2907
02:48:09,960 --> 02:48:16,260
replacement on Adam's birthday.
Guy. Now I'm just going to read

2908
02:48:16,260 --> 02:48:21,020
these are 6229 and 60s. These
are all birthday shout out. So

2909
02:48:21,020 --> 02:48:24,620
I'm just going to go read the
name of the individuals, and if

2910
02:48:24,620 --> 02:48:27,380
there's a location, for some
reason, the location only shows

2911
02:48:27,380 --> 02:48:33,500
up a few times. But mansuor rod,
uh, prison O'Leary. The guy's

2912
02:48:33,500 --> 02:48:35,600
name is prison, I don't think
so. Yeah, I

2913
02:48:35,600 --> 02:48:37,820
Adam Curry: hope so. Maybe he's
from the prison in O'Leary.

2914
02:48:39,260 --> 02:48:42,040
John C Dvorak: Uh, Michael
Belcher, Kevin McLaughlin, once

2915
02:48:42,040 --> 02:48:48,880
again, thank you. Kevin, yeah.
Alan shaft, shaft, shaft chef,

2916
02:48:49,180 --> 02:48:55,240
uh. Steve Niles in Santa Cruz.
Trevor Hoagland, William Baker,

2917
02:48:55,300 --> 02:48:59,920
B, A, k, k, e, r bucker, Maria
Rickard Hong, nutritional

2918
02:48:59,920 --> 02:49:09,600
healing, okay, all right. Kelly
Hubbard, sir Job. Job, one of my

2919
02:49:09,600 --> 02:49:12,840
favorite names, Night Of The
Night of the jiggly bits. That's

2920
02:49:12,840 --> 02:49:20,540
right, sir. Jub job, uh. Derek
Tipton, Jamie Buell, a Baronet,

2921
02:49:20,540 --> 02:49:27,800
Benjamin Ritter's Angela
Pickering Dan King, Cameron

2922
02:49:28,940 --> 02:49:32,120
Adam Curry: Dan King also asked
for a deduced for his free, free

2923
02:49:32,180 --> 02:49:35,360
loading. Brother, Matt King,
from central point, Oregon,

2924
02:49:37,100 --> 02:49:42,340
you've been deduced. Caught it.
Caught it. Good. Catch.

2925
02:49:43,360 --> 02:49:49,300
John C Dvorak: Uh, Cameron
Linga, Brian, Belen Brian, mass

2926
02:49:49,900 --> 02:49:56,500
uh, Walter hilbeck, um, very
long. Thank you. Note there.

2927
02:49:57,040 --> 02:50:05,700
Yancey summer. Gerald Preston,
Schuman, Roy, sir, B boop. And

2928
02:50:05,700 --> 02:50:11,040
that ends the well, which is now
the next the next show will be

2929
02:50:11,040 --> 02:50:13,260
your official birthday show on
Sunday. Yes,

2930
02:50:13,260 --> 02:50:15,780
Adam Curry: this is my birthday
week. Is what we're celebrating

2931
02:50:15,780 --> 02:50:19,800
here, and I will be working on
my birthday. Well, no,

2932
02:50:20,460 --> 02:50:22,580
John C Dvorak: no, your birthday
is Tuesday. Well, you might be

2933
02:50:22,580 --> 02:50:24,140
working, but no, my show my

2934
02:50:24,140 --> 02:50:27,380
Adam Curry: birthday is
Wednesday. No, that was Tuesday.

2935
02:50:27,380 --> 02:50:31,940
The third It's Wednesday, and
then I'll be working Thursday,

2936
02:50:32,000 --> 02:50:37,460
while on a so called vacation,
uh, and Sunday, the Sunday after

2937
02:50:37,460 --> 02:50:40,520
that, because Tina's taking me
to Mexico. So that's my birthday

2938
02:50:40,520 --> 02:50:43,420
present. So I will be was, what
day is the what? The third of

2939
02:50:43,420 --> 02:50:47,440
September, that's Tuesday. Well,
I'll be celebrating it on

2940
02:50:47,440 --> 02:50:54,820
Wednesday. Okay, it's Tuesday.
I'm sorry. Tuesday is like, I

2941
02:50:54,820 --> 02:50:58,360
don't really want to know about
it. It's too late. So cheer me

2942
02:50:58,360 --> 02:51:00,040
up, everybody with a donation.

2943
02:51:00,580 --> 02:51:03,060
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. $60
donation to Adam for his

2944
02:51:03,060 --> 02:51:07,140
birthday. Sunday show. Let's try
to boost the Sunday show with

2945
02:51:07,440 --> 02:51:09,960
congratulate and you get 600
would be cool.

2946
02:51:12,180 --> 02:51:13,980
Adam Curry: Yeah, that would be
cool. It's all right.

2947
02:51:14,040 --> 02:51:19,500
John C Dvorak: Steve banstric
comes to his 5993 eggs. Donation

2948
02:51:19,560 --> 02:51:25,580
over easy. 5993 backwards. Oh,
that is, yeah, that's cool if

2949
02:51:25,580 --> 02:51:28,760
you flip it over, yep, but
that's interesting. Eggs

2950
02:51:28,760 --> 02:51:30,500
Adam Curry: over easy and too
many eggs.com.

2951
02:51:31,760 --> 02:51:34,880
John C Dvorak: Yeah, too many
eggs.com. Geek rolling in Coeur

2952
02:51:34,880 --> 02:51:43,240
d'Alene, Idaho, 5856 Nicholas,
Oman in Dilworth, Minnesota,

2953
02:51:43,240 --> 02:51:47,620
5856 I don't know what that
number coming no, he

2954
02:51:47,620 --> 02:51:49,540
Adam Curry: needs something
travel karma. We'll give it

2955
02:51:49,660 --> 02:51:53,020
John C Dvorak: to you. Yes, put
some travel karma at the end for

2956
02:51:53,020 --> 02:51:56,920
him. Joshua Stewart and Bowling
Green, 55 he says

2957
02:51:56,920 --> 02:51:59,320
Adam Curry: he's been listening
for over a decade, and now he

2958
02:51:59,320 --> 02:52:03,780
requests the deduching is the
first time that he's donated

2959
02:52:03,780 --> 02:52:06,300
trace from Bowling Green,
Kentucky. He's from the summer

2960
02:52:06,300 --> 02:52:08,700
ozempics of Bowling Green. I'll
deduce him for that

2961
02:52:10,380 --> 02:52:12,240
Unknown: you've been deduced.

2962
02:52:14,460 --> 02:52:18,960
John C Dvorak: Here's a William
Edelen in Jacksonville, Florida,

2963
02:52:19,020 --> 02:52:25,220
which came in with 55 which is
the 20% cut of the David Dana

2964
02:52:25,220 --> 02:52:29,660
Brunetti unclaimed property
donation drive, an excellent

2965
02:52:29,660 --> 02:52:32,600
idea, I might add, as far which
was one of our tips of the day?

2966
02:52:32,600 --> 02:52:37,580
Yes, surprise of astonishment in
UConn, Oklahoma. 5444 another

2967
02:52:37,580 --> 02:52:41,920
missing name, Mark, oh no, it's
Mark Hardwick in Alito, Texas,

2968
02:52:41,920 --> 02:52:49,780
5333 Kyle tack in Yankton, South
Dakota, 5272 and as a happy

2969
02:52:49,780 --> 02:52:53,920
birthday, call out a might for
himself, yep, for Willa. Michael

2970
02:52:53,920 --> 02:53:00,240
Willa Willa Willa Willa, Michael
Friedel. Friedel in Kansas City,

2971
02:53:00,240 --> 02:53:06,060
5272 Scott Nelson, Council
Bluffs, Iowa, 5001 and now the

2972
02:53:06,060 --> 02:53:08,400
rest are 50s. And we're going to
go through them, name and

2973
02:53:08,400 --> 02:53:12,600
location if I have a location,
starting with Brian emmon Heiser

2974
02:53:12,600 --> 02:53:19,080
in Lancaster. Michael Elmore in
Gastonia, North Carolina. John

2975
02:53:19,080 --> 02:53:25,220
Taylor in Florida, fluorescent
Colorado. Aaron wise Gerber in

2976
02:53:25,220 --> 02:53:28,400
Bend, Oregon. Richard Gardner,
who I believe is in New York

2977
02:53:28,400 --> 02:53:35,720
City, but doesn't say ZEV green
in Teaneck, New Jersey. Hockey,

2978
02:53:35,720 --> 02:53:44,260
Esparza, Ella ragia in Mexico
City. I think. David Steele in

2979
02:53:44,260 --> 02:53:48,460
Mobile, Alabama, we need more
Mexico city people. We do leave.

2980
02:53:48,700 --> 02:53:52,420
They got to 13 million people or
plus living there. Leave.

2981
02:53:52,420 --> 02:53:57,760
Thompson in Meridian, Idaho.
Justin Kaler in Bluffton,

2982
02:53:58,060 --> 02:54:05,400
Indiana. Ed Edwin Torres in San
Antonio. Ryan wicker wickenhagen

2983
02:54:05,400 --> 02:54:12,720
in town. Send Georgia and last
uh, Baron Allen bean in

2984
02:54:12,720 --> 02:54:16,080
Beaverton, Oregon, who's been
with us since almost the very,

2985
02:54:16,080 --> 02:54:19,260
very beginning, who once said a
$50 check in, and says, As long

2986
02:54:19,260 --> 02:54:24,020
as you guys are good, I'm going
to send a $50 check in once a

2987
02:54:24,020 --> 02:54:28,160
month, and he has been giving
this money ever since

2988
02:54:28,280 --> 02:54:29,720
Adam Curry: it does he have a
title,

2989
02:54:30,500 --> 02:54:31,940
John C Dvorak: he's a baron. Oh,
okay, well,

2990
02:54:32,060 --> 02:54:33,380
Adam Curry: then he has a title.
He might, he

2991
02:54:33,380 --> 02:54:35,600
John C Dvorak: probably higher
than that, but he still goes by

2992
02:54:35,600 --> 02:54:39,680
Baron. Oh, well, that's it. He
used to live in Oakland.

2993
02:54:40,400 --> 02:54:42,760
Adam Curry: Well, thank you very
much, Baron. And thank you to

2994
02:54:42,760 --> 02:54:46,780
everyone who supported Episode
1690, of the best podcast in the

2995
02:54:46,780 --> 02:54:49,300
universe, because we have the
best producers in the podcast.

2996
02:54:49,300 --> 02:54:52,840
It's easy to check. You can ask
anybody someone was saying the

2997
02:54:52,840 --> 02:54:57,400
other day, you know that this
one podcast, the dire of a CEO,

2998
02:54:57,400 --> 02:55:01,140
has 65 people working on the
pod. Podcast. And I said, so

2999
02:55:01,140 --> 02:55:04,500
what? We've got 10s of 1000s of
producers working on the

3000
02:55:04,500 --> 02:55:05,340
podcast.

3001
02:55:06,060 --> 02:55:08,400
John C Dvorak: Does he pay those
65 people? He does. Are they

3002
02:55:08,400 --> 02:55:09,420
volunteers? No,

3003
02:55:09,960 --> 02:55:12,960
Adam Curry: no, he'll No, I
think he pays him. Yeah, they go

3004
02:55:12,960 --> 02:55:16,560
to an office and everything,
what? Yeah, no, he'll be poor

3005
02:55:16,560 --> 02:55:19,200
soon. Don't worry. He does all
kinds of but what do

3006
02:55:19,200 --> 02:55:21,020
John C Dvorak: you need that may
I mean, if you're going to be

3007
02:55:21,020 --> 02:55:23,180
paying people to work full time,
he also

3008
02:55:23,180 --> 02:55:26,060
Adam Curry: has, this was the
big news at Podcast Movement,

3009
02:55:26,420 --> 02:55:30,080
which was in Washington, DC, on
a Wednesday, a Thursday and a

3010
02:55:30,080 --> 02:55:34,400
Friday, which doesn't sound like
a great you know, when school's

3011
02:55:34,400 --> 02:55:37,940
back. I mean, I don't know how
many people showed up. Well,

3012
02:55:37,940 --> 02:55:40,780
this guy, this, I forget his
name, Bartlett. I think his name

3013
02:55:40,780 --> 02:55:46,000
is he's very famous, very famous
podcaster. When he does

3014
02:55:46,000 --> 02:55:49,600
interviews with people, he has a
CO two monitor in the studio,

3015
02:55:49,600 --> 02:55:53,020
and when it hits 1000 parts per
million, then he stops the

3016
02:55:53,020 --> 02:55:56,860
interview, because he says, then
people won't be thinking

3017
02:55:56,860 --> 02:56:01,800
straight. That was the big news
that came out of the podcast

3018
02:56:01,800 --> 02:56:03,000
world this past week.

3019
02:56:03,960 --> 02:56:04,620
Unknown: What?

3020
02:56:05,760 --> 02:56:08,340
Adam Curry: Yes, yeah. 1000
parts per million, then you

3021
02:56:08,340 --> 02:56:11,940
can't think straight. He claims,
is that true?

3022
02:56:12,960 --> 02:56:14,640
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know if it's true or not, but

3023
02:56:14,640 --> 02:56:18,000
What? What? Why don't you just
open up window, dude?

3024
02:56:21,180 --> 02:56:23,420
Adam Curry: Thank you all very
much, especially those who came

3025
02:56:23,420 --> 02:56:26,960
in under $50 for reasons of
anonymity, or if you're on one

3026
02:56:26,960 --> 02:56:31,640
of our many, many possibilities
for your own sustaining

3027
02:56:31,640 --> 02:56:35,000
donation, please remember us.
Support us. Send us some value

3028
02:56:35,000 --> 02:56:38,420
back. Go to no agenda
donations.com. Here's the goat

3029
02:56:38,420 --> 02:56:42,160
karma for those who want,
including sir CB, who needs some

3030
02:56:42,160 --> 02:56:43,240
garage sale karma?

3031
02:56:44,740 --> 02:56:45,460
Unknown: You've got

3032
02:56:47,080 --> 02:56:48,640
Adam Curry: karma. No agenda
donations.com.

3033
02:56:56,920 --> 02:56:58,480
Unknown: Here's the birthday
list. We've

3034
02:56:58,480 --> 02:57:02,820
Adam Curry: got Tim Kimbrough
turn 55 on the 25th Kyle tack

3035
02:57:03,060 --> 02:57:07,080
wishes Willa happy one turn 13
on the 25th as well. Andrew,

3036
02:57:07,260 --> 02:57:13,800
Andrew Andre Mackey turned 17
today. How about that? Sean

3037
02:57:13,800 --> 02:57:17,820
O'Connor turning 41 today.
Thomas Weaver turned 38 today.

3038
02:57:18,060 --> 02:57:22,880
Dame four and lady before turn
76 one day before me. I'll be

3039
02:57:22,880 --> 02:57:26,900
60, but she turned 76 on
September 2, and Gaucho

3040
02:57:26,900 --> 02:57:30,440
woodworking shares a birthday
with me on September 3. Happy

3041
02:57:30,440 --> 02:57:33,200
birthday from everybody here at
the best podcast in the

3042
02:57:33,200 --> 02:57:34,160
universe. She

3043
02:57:44,920 --> 02:57:50,200
well, not only does she turn 76
on September 2, but today she

3044
02:57:50,200 --> 02:57:54,820
becomes a vis Countess Dame
foreign lady before now becomes

3045
02:57:54,880 --> 02:57:59,200
vi Countess Dame a foreign lady
before. Protectorate for her is

3046
02:57:59,200 --> 02:58:03,780
the old town of Grayson in
northeast Georgia, a classy Dame

3047
02:58:03,780 --> 02:58:07,980
indeed, a vis Countess no less.
Congratulations. Two nights,

3048
02:58:08,100 --> 02:58:11,820
finally got some nice to bring
up here to the round table. So

3049
02:58:11,820 --> 02:58:14,700
get out your blade, John, there
you go. Don't bring out your

3050
02:58:14,760 --> 02:58:17,100
nice army knife, because it
doesn't have a blade.

3051
02:58:17,220 --> 02:58:18,360
John C Dvorak: It's just a
corkscrew.

3052
02:58:20,760 --> 02:58:24,200
Adam Curry: Saren Denzil,
Christian grillik, step on up.

3053
02:58:24,200 --> 02:58:26,660
Gentlemen, both of you have
supported the no agenda show in

3054
02:58:26,660 --> 02:58:30,260
the amount of $1,000 or more
that qualifies you for a

3055
02:58:30,260 --> 02:58:33,200
knighthood. It's just as good as
one of those that the King of

3056
02:58:33,200 --> 02:58:36,080
England gives away, only we
actually give you something cool

3057
02:58:36,080 --> 02:58:38,900
that you can wear every single
day. So I'm very proud hereby to

3058
02:58:38,900 --> 02:58:43,840
pronounce Kate Diaz, Sir Knight
Z and Sir loin of Winter Haven

3059
02:58:44,860 --> 02:58:47,560
for you gentlemen, we have
hookers and blow. That's

3060
02:58:47,560 --> 02:58:50,140
something the king won't give
you either. Red boys and

3061
02:58:50,140 --> 02:58:53,140
Chardonnay, Skyline chili, four
way bean and Jamison. Black

3062
02:58:53,140 --> 02:58:55,600
barrel whiskey along with that
Bong. It's bourbon, sparkling

3063
02:58:55,600 --> 02:58:58,840
cider escorts, ginger ale and
gerbils, breast milk and pablum.

3064
02:58:59,020 --> 02:59:01,680
And of course, we always have
the effervescent mutton and

3065
02:59:01,680 --> 02:59:04,740
Mead, and when you're done
snacking on that, go to no

3066
02:59:04,740 --> 02:59:07,200
agenda rings.com. Check out the
beautiful rings. We have the

3067
02:59:07,200 --> 02:59:11,160
Signet rings for knights and for
dames, and we deliver that to

3068
02:59:11,160 --> 02:59:14,220
you with a certificate of
authenticity and wax, which you

3069
02:59:14,220 --> 02:59:17,400
can melt down on seal your
important correspondence with.

3070
02:59:17,400 --> 02:59:20,720
Thank you both for supporting
the no agenda show, and welcome

3071
02:59:20,720 --> 02:59:23,720
to the round table of the no
agenda nights and days.

3072
02:59:30,620 --> 02:59:31,340
Unknown: Yeah, baby.

3073
02:59:32,780 --> 02:59:36,800
Adam Curry: So we may not do
anything big, centralized like a

3074
02:59:36,800 --> 02:59:40,300
no agenda con, but we love our
meetups, and everyone else in

3075
02:59:40,300 --> 02:59:43,480
the all the other producers seem
to love it. These are producer

3076
02:59:43,480 --> 02:59:46,180
organized meetups. You go to no
agenda meetups.com. You can

3077
02:59:46,180 --> 02:59:49,780
register your Meetup, or you can
find one near you. And people

3078
02:59:49,780 --> 02:59:52,960
like telling us how much they
enjoyed it. Here is the report

3079
02:59:52,960 --> 02:59:54,640
from Keene, New Hampshire.

3080
02:59:54,820 --> 02:59:57,880
Unknown: Hey there. This is the
new agenda meetup in Keene at

3081
02:59:59,440 --> 03:00:00,660
John C Dvorak: the Jamaica.
Restaurant, and

3082
03:00:01,020 --> 03:00:03,180
Unknown: we had a lot of fun.
There was four of us, three of

3083
03:00:03,240 --> 03:00:06,660
us Reapers, and one person got
hit in the mountain in the

3084
03:00:06,660 --> 03:00:10,380
morning, John and Adam. This is
crypto Duke. Maybe sometime

3085
03:00:10,380 --> 03:00:13,200
you'll come out here. You know,
it's not too far from a Plymouth

3086
03:00:13,980 --> 03:00:15,000
Mouse. Oh, but

3087
03:00:16,500 --> 03:00:18,420
we'll never get the grumpy gun
to come here.

3088
03:00:18,780 --> 03:00:21,920
Adam Curry: Okay, bye, bye. All
right, the tip is to record an

3089
03:00:21,920 --> 03:00:26,120
acquired location. Let's see how
Tulsa did. Hey, shmiri,

3090
03:00:26,360 --> 03:00:29,660
Unknown: what? Where do I find
the wildest and weirdest

3091
03:00:29,660 --> 03:00:32,960
conversational threads in
Oklahoma? The Tulsa, no agenda.

3092
03:00:32,960 --> 03:00:34,400
Don't be a douchebag. Meetup.

3093
03:00:36,260 --> 03:00:40,160
Hey, John and Adam. This is Alan
in Tulsa. I called this meetup

3094
03:00:40,160 --> 03:00:43,840
together to let everyone know
that I'm ending my campaign and

3095
03:00:43,840 --> 03:00:48,940
I'm endorsing the curry Dvorak
ticket. Four more years. It's

3096
03:00:48,940 --> 03:00:52,360
Hallie Howdy, John and Adam.
We're just here at this white

3097
03:00:52,360 --> 03:00:57,700
Christian nationalist meetup
looking to repeal the 19th Hey,

3098
03:00:57,700 --> 03:01:01,860
John, Adam. This is David. You
guys. Podcast is so informative.

3099
03:01:01,860 --> 03:01:04,680
But what is Aleppo

3100
03:01:06,060 --> 03:01:07,800
in the morning? Guys, this year
I'm

3101
03:01:07,800 --> 03:01:09,360
voting Linda lapatkin

3102
03:01:10,800 --> 03:01:13,740
Adam Curry: Aleppo, that's in
Syria. You know what Aleppo is?

3103
03:01:13,980 --> 03:01:17,100
Spearfish, South Dakota. Come on
in with your report.

3104
03:01:22,800 --> 03:01:25,760
Unknown: Good. Evening. This is
Jessica. We interrupt this

3105
03:01:25,760 --> 03:01:29,660
broadcast to bring you breaking
news from the cow peak. No

3106
03:01:29,660 --> 03:01:33,860
agenda. Meetup of the Black
Hills. Our very own Juan Miguel

3107
03:01:33,860 --> 03:01:37,460
is on the scene. Let's go to him
now live for more details.

3108
03:01:37,820 --> 03:01:42,100
Hey Jessica, thank you. I'm here
at the crows beat brewery here

3109
03:01:42,100 --> 03:01:45,400
in Spearfish, South Dakota. It's
an incredible scene. Lots of

3110
03:01:45,400 --> 03:01:49,000
energy, lots of activity. I
think we even have midgets. I'm

3111
03:01:49,000 --> 03:01:52,180
not sure they may also be small
children. Over here, we have a

3112
03:01:52,180 --> 03:01:55,600
table of people for the no
agenda. Meet up. Let's see if we

3113
03:01:55,600 --> 03:01:56,980
can get some comments from them

3114
03:01:59,020 --> 03:02:02,340
in the morning. This is Jessica.
The company is great, and the

3115
03:02:02,340 --> 03:02:06,060
green kombucha tastes better
than it looks. In the

3116
03:02:06,060 --> 03:02:08,760
morning, Adam and John. This is
Caitlin coming to you from the

3117
03:02:08,760 --> 03:02:11,940
cows peak meet up in Spearfish,
South Dakota. I saw a guy

3118
03:02:11,940 --> 03:02:14,640
wearing a t shirt that said, Put
a hog between her legs.

3119
03:02:16,020 --> 03:02:19,020
Everybody. This is John Dale
having a good time here at the

3120
03:02:19,020 --> 03:02:22,640
crow peak brewery here in
Spearfish, South Dakota, in the

3121
03:02:22,640 --> 03:02:23,120
morning,

3122
03:02:24,500 --> 03:02:27,260
in the morning, this is Casey,
and we're at the first ever snow

3123
03:02:27,260 --> 03:02:30,020
peas. No agenda, meet up in
Spearfish, South Dakota, at the

3124
03:02:30,020 --> 03:02:31,040
crow peak brewery.

3125
03:02:33,140 --> 03:02:37,220
Hey, my name is say I come down
here to Fortune get some beers

3126
03:02:37,700 --> 03:02:41,440
after working on the roof all
day, and they have some beers.

3127
03:02:41,440 --> 03:02:45,100
So I got a beard. I'm not sure
what is the no agenda's thing

3128
03:02:45,100 --> 03:02:45,220
though.

3129
03:02:46,480 --> 03:02:51,640
I just wanna know my social pet
store in the morning.

3130
03:02:54,700 --> 03:02:55,840
Back to you, Jessica.

3131
03:02:59,560 --> 03:03:02,700
Adam Curry: Wait What John Dale
actually emailed me, is it okay

3132
03:03:02,700 --> 03:03:06,120
if we say midgets in the meetup
report like you do? You bro,

3133
03:03:06,120 --> 03:03:10,020
whatever you want. Now we go
over to London, merry old

3134
03:03:10,020 --> 03:03:13,320
England. Here is guof and his
report from his meetup

3135
03:03:15,000 --> 03:03:18,060
Unknown: from the Gitmo nation,
the UK in the morning.

3136
03:03:19,200 --> 03:03:21,200
Who's my favorite look.

3137
03:03:22,340 --> 03:03:25,220
I do believe it's that John,
John C. I

3138
03:03:25,220 --> 03:03:26,480
think it's called John c1,

3139
03:03:27,140 --> 03:03:32,000
100% I'm Elliot from Croydon,
and I am the douchebag

3140
03:03:32,300 --> 03:03:35,180
in the morning. John and Adam,
this pop quiz is rigged like

3141
03:03:35,180 --> 03:03:35,840
your elections.

3142
03:03:36,440 --> 03:03:40,180
This is Woof the carcap, the
London no agenda meet hub,

3143
03:03:41,020 --> 03:03:47,440
longest standing member, part
two, and I'm affecting my pitch

3144
03:03:47,620 --> 03:03:51,700
for the V for VTV channel. Yeah,
hi,

3145
03:03:51,700 --> 03:03:56,200
John, Hi Adam seven. Freeze from
g7 LH, I can listen later on the

3146
03:03:56,200 --> 03:03:59,980
airwaves, and I've enjoyed every
member of it. So take

3147
03:04:01,840 --> 03:04:03,960
care. Bye, John and Adam,
please. Out. So thank you for

3148
03:04:03,960 --> 03:04:04,140
your

3149
03:04:05,760 --> 03:04:11,100
courage. Steve at the London
meet up in Fitzrovia, awesome

3150
03:04:11,100 --> 03:04:13,080
experience. Lovely ice gone off.

3151
03:04:14,100 --> 03:04:17,820
This is Sue from Melbourne,
Australia, reporting from meet

3152
03:04:17,880 --> 03:04:22,040
up at sump pub called the law of
the land. And I encourage you

3153
03:04:22,040 --> 03:04:27,920
all to come to this meet up with
Gregory and everyone else called

3154
03:04:27,920 --> 03:04:33,020
no agenda. And if we could come
back again next year, we would.

3155
03:04:33,560 --> 03:04:34,280
And John agrees,

3156
03:04:37,580 --> 03:04:42,340
I may have a bit of a hangover
tomorrow due to climate change.

3157
03:04:46,600 --> 03:04:49,660
Adam Curry: Okay? And a happy
birthday song. Thank you very

3158
03:04:49,660 --> 03:04:52,900
much. Well, sounds like everyone
had a good time there in the UK.

3159
03:04:52,900 --> 03:04:55,300
Time for us to visit John, we
got a lot of people out of

3160
03:04:55,300 --> 03:04:58,060
producers. Oops, a lot of
producers over there. Yeah, we

3161
03:04:58,060 --> 03:05:00,900
do having a good time.
Obviously. Here's what's coming

3162
03:05:00,900 --> 03:05:04,080
up today. The North Georgia
monthly kicks off at six o'clock

3163
03:05:04,080 --> 03:05:07,200
at Cherry brewing, Cherry Street
brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia

3164
03:05:07,980 --> 03:05:12,660
On Sunday, the first annual no
agenda, anti anti tam

3165
03:05:12,720 --> 03:05:18,540
battlefield meetup. Anti Tam,
anti Tam, that's at 10 o'clock

3166
03:05:18,540 --> 03:05:21,500
in the morning at anti tam
National Battlefield. Oh, that's

3167
03:05:21,500 --> 03:05:25,880
a Maryland, Sharpsburg, Maryland
and on. Also, that's

3168
03:05:26,360 --> 03:05:27,560
John C Dvorak: mispronouncing
it. How

3169
03:05:27,560 --> 03:05:28,400
Adam Curry: do i pronounce it?

3170
03:05:29,840 --> 03:05:31,820
John C Dvorak: Because you
mispronounce it, I can't. It's

3171
03:05:31,820 --> 03:05:33,740
antimony or something. It's,

3172
03:05:34,400 --> 03:05:37,760
Adam Curry: you literally
spelled A, N, T, I, E, T, A, M

3173
03:05:37,820 --> 03:05:43,960
and T, a tam and Tia and to,
hey, it's charming. The National

3174
03:05:43,960 --> 03:05:47,020
Battlefield of that place in
Sharpsburg, Maryland, very go

3175
03:05:47,020 --> 03:05:47,680
there.

3176
03:05:47,740 --> 03:05:49,780
John C Dvorak: Civil War battle,
yes, go there.

3177
03:05:50,500 --> 03:05:53,380
Adam Curry: And the annual South
Jersey pig roast meetup, five

3178
03:05:53,380 --> 03:05:56,560
o'clock at Medford Lake, New
Jersey. Oh, that's dame, one of

3179
03:05:56,560 --> 03:05:59,200
the lakes. You've got to contact
her for details. It's probably

3180
03:05:59,200 --> 03:06:02,400
at her house. So go to no nogen
to meetups.com. For that. Coming

3181
03:06:02,400 --> 03:06:06,360
up on September. This is gonna
cook a pig, I think so it's the

3182
03:06:06,360 --> 03:06:09,060
annual South Jersey pig roast
meetup. So yes, they're gonna

3183
03:06:09,060 --> 03:06:13,620
cook a pig. Cooking up a pig.
This is an interesting one

3184
03:06:13,620 --> 03:06:17,400
Plymouth, Massachusetts. I was
just there. I would have loved

3185
03:06:17,400 --> 03:06:20,540
to have been in a meetup.
Instead. They're doing one post

3186
03:06:20,540 --> 03:06:22,460
visit, and they sent a promo

3187
03:06:22,940 --> 03:06:27,080
Unknown: in a world on the brink
of war, it took 80 years to

3188
03:06:27,080 --> 03:06:30,560
build, where whispers of
rebellion echoed through the

3189
03:06:30,560 --> 03:06:34,580
colonies, one of his right on
the water, based on a true

3190
03:06:34,580 --> 03:06:35,480
story,

3191
03:06:36,080 --> 03:06:40,120
Adam Curry: it symbolizes The
America, it really does, of

3192
03:06:40,120 --> 03:06:44,500
Unknown: love, romance and Adam
and Tina's visit last month,

3193
03:06:44,560 --> 03:06:47,800
the British will be here. Soon.
We shall stand our ground and

3194
03:06:47,800 --> 03:06:48,880
fight them to the death.

3195
03:06:49,480 --> 03:06:51,820
This is America. You dumb, some
of it. Okay, this Labor Day,

3196
03:06:51,820 --> 03:06:57,580
James winters, Massachusetts,
the 81

3197
03:06:58,780 --> 03:07:02,400
Adam Curry: foot tall monument
was commissioned by the

3198
03:07:02,400 --> 03:07:05,340
Unknown: pilgrim society at the
National Monument to the

3199
03:07:05,340 --> 03:07:09,720
forefathers in Plymouth,
Massachusetts, the anarchists,

3200
03:07:10,020 --> 03:07:14,280
the agitators, the looters and
people who, in many instances,

3201
03:07:14,280 --> 03:07:16,440
have absolutely no clue

3202
03:07:16,560 --> 03:07:23,420
what they are doing, find out
what it really means an

3203
03:07:25,220 --> 03:07:28,160
entire nation founded on saying
one thing and doing another

3204
03:07:28,640 --> 03:07:31,220
to be an American, and we will

3205
03:07:31,280 --> 03:07:32,300
call that country

3206
03:07:32,300 --> 03:07:34,700
the United States of America.

3207
03:07:35,780 --> 03:07:39,740
The adamantino were here meet up
coming Monday, September 2, at

3208
03:07:39,740 --> 03:07:43,180
the National Monument to the
forefathers Massachusetts.

3209
03:07:43,240 --> 03:07:46,720
Adam Curry: That's pretty cool.
Too long. Yes, too long.

3210
03:07:46,720 --> 03:07:49,960
John C Dvorak: But by the way,
it's pronounced Antietam.

3211
03:07:50,080 --> 03:07:52,240
Antietam. Okay, that's

3212
03:07:52,240 --> 03:07:54,880
Adam Curry: pretty cool, though.
So finally, we're going to put

3213
03:07:54,880 --> 03:07:57,580
the National Monument to the
forefathers on the map. Can you

3214
03:07:57,580 --> 03:08:00,700
imagine the no agenda? Meet up
there. It's in a cul de sac.

3215
03:08:00,700 --> 03:08:03,060
It'll be interesting with see
what the neighbors have to say

3216
03:08:03,060 --> 03:08:05,880
John C Dvorak: about y'all. I'm
sure they won't be pleased. One

3217
03:08:05,880 --> 03:08:08,040
Adam Curry: more promo for North
Florida.

3218
03:08:12,300 --> 03:08:16,260
Unknown: Ahoy Florida producers,
you are quarterly invited to a

3219
03:08:16,260 --> 03:08:19,500
summoning of the seas at our
September meetup in Saint

3220
03:08:19,560 --> 03:08:24,800
Augustine on Sunday, September
15, at 2pm join us for a round

3221
03:08:24,800 --> 03:08:28,640
table full of seafood and
Sangria to hear all the tales of

3222
03:08:28,640 --> 03:08:32,300
the no agenda crew, don't forget
to cast your vote for our

3223
03:08:32,300 --> 03:08:36,200
November to remember meetup
adventure RSVP for this meetup

3224
03:08:36,200 --> 03:08:40,340
and more, all at no agenda
meetups.com. It's like a bard.

3225
03:08:40,340 --> 03:08:40,840
Ah, there

3226
03:08:42,940 --> 03:08:46,780
Adam Curry: you go. And we have
many more to mention. I'm going

3227
03:08:46,780 --> 03:08:49,480
to skip them, since this was a
very long meetup segment, but I

3228
03:08:49,480 --> 03:08:53,620
do want everyone to know,
October 18, Matt long. Matt

3229
03:08:53,620 --> 03:08:57,580
Long, who was a well known
person here in in

3230
03:08:57,580 --> 03:09:01,080
Fredericksburg, Texas, is
organizing a meetup right here

3231
03:09:01,080 --> 03:09:05,520
in Fredericksburg. Curry and the
keeper will be there. Many more,

3232
03:09:05,520 --> 03:09:09,120
I'm sure, who are in the Texas
region will be coming to

3233
03:09:09,120 --> 03:09:12,420
Fredericksburg. Come to our
lovely town, book an Airbnb. You

3234
03:09:12,420 --> 03:09:16,260
don't want to stay at the motel,
six and come join the meetup. I

3235
03:09:16,260 --> 03:09:19,920
think that's on Friday, I think
October 18, Fredericksburg,

3236
03:09:19,920 --> 03:09:23,120
Texas. Those are the meetups.
Many more you can can be

3237
03:09:23,120 --> 03:09:27,320
found@noadgendameups.com if you
can't find one near you, like

3238
03:09:27,320 --> 03:09:30,380
Fredericksburg, Texas, then
start one yourself at no agenda

3239
03:09:30,380 --> 03:09:33,800
meetups.com. It's easy and
always a party triggered all

3240
03:09:40,000 --> 03:09:43,120
Unknown: you to be where you
won't be triggered or, hell,

3241
03:09:46,660 --> 03:09:49,000
everybody feels the same.

3242
03:09:52,420 --> 03:09:56,140
Adam Curry: It's like a party.
It's like a party, yes, indeed,

3243
03:09:56,140 --> 03:10:01,440
just like a party. I only have
one. One ISO, so why don't you

3244
03:10:01,440 --> 03:10:03,840
do yours, and then I'll play
mine, which I think is gonna

3245
03:10:03,840 --> 03:10:04,020
win?

3246
03:10:05,400 --> 03:10:08,700
John C Dvorak: Okay, we start
with the podcast is so good. Oh,

3247
03:10:08,940 --> 03:10:09,240
that

3248
03:10:09,240 --> 03:10:12,960
Adam Curry: one might win. Let's
see. The podcast is so good.

3249
03:10:13,500 --> 03:10:16,680
Wow, it's really a low level.
You didn't make that yourself.

3250
03:10:16,680 --> 03:10:18,840
Someone else did that for you.
Let me try that again.

3251
03:10:18,900 --> 03:10:20,900
Unknown: The podcast is so good.

3252
03:10:22,580 --> 03:10:24,200
Adam Curry: That has no dynamics

3253
03:10:24,860 --> 03:10:28,940
Unknown: sexism. This is blatant
sexism.

3254
03:10:30,380 --> 03:10:35,360
Adam Curry: Well, that would be
appropriate for this show. Who

3255
03:10:35,360 --> 03:10:40,040
was that? Megyn Kelly, exactly,

3256
03:10:41,300 --> 03:10:44,380
John C Dvorak: and for our last
celebrity entry, nailed it,

3257
03:10:45,160 --> 03:10:45,520
nailed

3258
03:10:45,520 --> 03:10:46,720
Unknown: it, nailed it.

3259
03:10:48,520 --> 03:10:49,480
Adam Curry: Who was that?

3260
03:10:51,700 --> 03:10:53,020
Unknown: Who does that? Who said
that

3261
03:10:53,920 --> 03:10:57,460
John C Dvorak: he has an adenoid
an adenoidal voice, and he's

3262
03:10:57,580 --> 03:11:02,880
podcasting all the time. Scott
Adams, who that was Scott

3263
03:11:02,880 --> 03:11:06,000
Adam Curry: Scott Adams. Oh no,
no. Can't do Scott Adams. Here's

3264
03:11:06,000 --> 03:11:07,080
my I only have one entry

3265
03:11:07,140 --> 03:11:07,920
Unknown: breaking

3266
03:11:08,100 --> 03:11:09,240
crazy.

3267
03:11:12,420 --> 03:11:17,820
What freaking crazy?

3268
03:11:17,880 --> 03:11:20,840
Adam Curry: You don't like
freaking crazy. It

3269
03:11:20,840 --> 03:11:23,600
John C Dvorak: sounds like he's
saying breaking No, freaking

3270
03:11:24,320 --> 03:11:26,600
Adam Curry: All right. Well, I
think we go with Megan. This

3271
03:11:26,660 --> 03:11:28,760
Unknown: is blatant sexism. I

3272
03:11:28,760 --> 03:11:30,800
Adam Curry: think that's the one
we go with. I think so, yeah, I

3273
03:11:30,800 --> 03:11:33,080
think that's a good one. Now,
everybody, it's time before we

3274
03:11:33,080 --> 03:11:35,600
wind up the show. It is John's
Tip of the Day.

3275
03:11:42,800 --> 03:11:43,840
Unknown: And sometimes Adam.

3276
03:11:46,660 --> 03:11:48,880
John C Dvorak: So there's a
really good book. I'm going to

3277
03:11:48,880 --> 03:11:49,900
plug a book come

3278
03:11:49,900 --> 03:11:50,680
Adam Curry: into the mic.

3279
03:11:52,000 --> 03:11:54,580
John C Dvorak: I can't come in
any closer without banging my

3280
03:11:54,580 --> 03:12:02,460
nose. I'm going to plug a book
called might of the chain. I

3281
03:12:02,460 --> 03:12:07,260
don't like the title, but the
book is fantastic. Might of the

3282
03:12:07,260 --> 03:12:13,620
chain. Might, might the chain,
forging leaders of iron

3283
03:12:13,620 --> 03:12:16,620
integrity, another subtitle. I
don't like that either, but the

3284
03:12:16,620 --> 03:12:21,260
book itself is fabulous. It's
from is by Mike studeman, a Rear

3285
03:12:21,260 --> 03:12:26,060
Admiral, former retired who is
actually something of a of a

3286
03:12:26,060 --> 03:12:30,800
spook. He's now working for
miter as a national security

3287
03:12:30,860 --> 03:12:36,860
fellow. And this book is it's
outrageously interesting. In

3288
03:12:36,860 --> 03:12:42,160
fact, it's got a blurb by Henry
Kissinger, that says thoughtful

3289
03:12:42,160 --> 03:12:44,860
and engaging. When I read the
blurb, I said, one of those

3290
03:12:44,860 --> 03:12:50,500
blurbs that you just write. I
used to be an associate with

3291
03:12:50,740 --> 03:12:55,360
John Brockman, the New York
agent. And he told me very early

3292
03:12:55,360 --> 03:12:58,600
on, he says, you know Alan watt,
the guy who wrote all the books

3293
03:12:58,600 --> 03:13:03,420
on Zen Buddhism. He said that
guy, if somebody mentioned

3294
03:13:03,420 --> 03:13:07,800
blurb, he says, I'm in and he
would write the blurb. He would

3295
03:13:07,800 --> 03:13:11,280
write any blurb for anybody. And
I've taken that same I felt the

3296
03:13:11,280 --> 03:13:16,680
same way, always weirded out,
but by people who say, Oh no, I

3297
03:13:16,680 --> 03:13:19,200
have to read it first. I have to
do this. So I read this

3298
03:13:19,740 --> 03:13:22,820
thoughtful and engaging by
Kissinger, I said he's one of

3299
03:13:22,820 --> 03:13:26,960
those guys just writes phony
blurbs. No, this book is the

3300
03:13:26,960 --> 03:13:30,080
most thoughtful book I've ever
run into, at least for a couple

3301
03:13:30,080 --> 03:13:33,440
of years. It's just loaded with
information. If you are a

3302
03:13:33,440 --> 03:13:36,440
business manager, a guy who
wants to get into management, or

3303
03:13:36,440 --> 03:13:39,800
if you're in the military, it's
about leadership, and it's,

3304
03:13:39,800 --> 03:13:44,200
it's, it's it's just so full of
tips. It's, it's great. It's a

3305
03:13:44,200 --> 03:13:48,340
meta tip. It's really a good
book. So it's called might, I

3306
03:13:48,340 --> 03:13:50,740
don't like the title. It could
have been called a lot of

3307
03:13:50,740 --> 03:13:56,560
different things, but might of
the chain by stood studeman, s,

3308
03:13:56,560 --> 03:14:01,800
s, t, u, d, e, M, a, n, uh. Get
a copy if you can. If you want

3309
03:14:01,800 --> 03:14:02,400
to have something

3310
03:14:02,400 --> 03:14:05,460
Adam Curry: good to read. Wow. A
Reading Tip that doesn't happen

3311
03:14:05,460 --> 03:14:06,000
often. Now,

3312
03:14:06,120 --> 03:14:07,980
John C Dvorak: I think once a
month I'm going to try to do a

3313
03:14:07,980 --> 03:14:08,700
book. No

3314
03:14:08,700 --> 03:14:10,560
Unknown: commercials. More
content.

3315
03:14:11,880 --> 03:14:13,920
Your no agenda. Tip of the Day.

3316
03:14:14,160 --> 03:14:18,180
Adam Curry: There it is. Your no
agenda. Tip of the Day.

3317
03:14:18,180 --> 03:14:23,600
Everybody. Beautiful. And that
concludes our broadcast time.

3318
03:14:24,320 --> 03:14:29,540
Let's see, yep, it's time end of
show mixes, Professor Jay Jones,

3319
03:14:29,540 --> 03:14:33,860
we got Dee's laughs and David
kecta all coming in with end of

3320
03:14:33,860 --> 03:14:37,700
show mixes, good to have you
boys on board as usual. End of

3321
03:14:37,700 --> 03:14:40,780
show. Let's see. That means we
have something coming up next?

3322
03:14:40,840 --> 03:14:46,900
Ah yes, behind the schemes with
booberry and lavish live? Is it

3323
03:14:46,900 --> 03:14:49,000
live? I don't know if they're
live, but there are. They're on

3324
03:14:49,000 --> 03:14:53,920
the no agenda stream, which is
24/7 there's no reason to even

3325
03:14:54,700 --> 03:14:58,420
turn. You know what we say in
the old days, lock it in and rip

3326
03:14:58,480 --> 03:15:02,220
the knob off. No. No
agendastream.com, trollroom.io,

3327
03:15:03,780 --> 03:15:07,080
and coming to you from the heart
of the Texas Hill Country, and

3328
03:15:07,080 --> 03:15:09,780
right where the future meet up
in Fredericksburg, Texas, will

3329
03:15:09,780 --> 03:15:12,600
be taking place FEMA Region
number six in the morning.

3330
03:15:12,600 --> 03:15:14,160
Everybody. I'm Adam curry,

3331
03:15:14,520 --> 03:15:17,280
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I remain,

3332
03:15:17,280 --> 03:15:18,600
I'm John C Dvorak.

3333
03:15:18,660 --> 03:15:22,220
Adam Curry: We will be here on
Sunday. Please join us for more

3334
03:15:22,220 --> 03:15:25,640
media deconstruction. You know
you want it. You know you need

3335
03:15:25,640 --> 03:15:29,060
it. Remember us at no agenda,
donations.com, until then,

3336
03:15:29,120 --> 03:15:34,400
adios, mofos, a hooey, hooey and
such. I don't

3337
03:15:35,780 --> 03:15:37,040
Unknown: know what's wrong with
you, young

3338
03:15:38,300 --> 03:15:40,660
people. You think you just fell
off a coconut tree.

3339
03:15:42,640 --> 03:15:44,800
I think that sounds pretty good.

3340
03:15:46,420 --> 03:15:48,820
Every single day,

3341
03:15:48,940 --> 03:15:51,160
pick up the kids and pay your
bills,

3342
03:15:52,240 --> 03:15:56,380
look lost and confused, so she'd
lower everyone's income. Yes,

3343
03:15:56,560 --> 03:15:58,900
I think that sounds pretty good.

3344
03:15:59,620 --> 03:16:00,400
Is that a good thing?

3345
03:16:00,460 --> 03:16:01,440
That is a good thing.

3346
03:16:01,560 --> 03:16:03,480
You think you just fell out of a
coconut tree?

3347
03:16:04,980 --> 03:16:06,480
Who the hell is in charge? I

3348
03:16:06,480 --> 03:16:10,440
don't know what's wrong with you
young people, because she is

3349
03:16:10,440 --> 03:16:13,740
smart and she is more reliable.
Who

3350
03:16:13,740 --> 03:16:15,240
the hell is in charge? What

3351
03:16:15,780 --> 03:16:17,160
do you think about Donald Trump?

3352
03:16:17,580 --> 03:16:19,680
He started World war three?

3353
03:16:20,100 --> 03:16:22,100
Yeah, yeah. That's just not
true.

3354
03:16:22,580 --> 03:16:24,620
You think you just fell out of a
coconut tree?

3355
03:16:26,600 --> 03:16:30,440
I think that sounds pretty good.
The leader, who's

3356
03:16:30,440 --> 03:16:32,120
tough, tested,

3357
03:16:32,840 --> 03:16:33,860
yeah, yeah, that's

3358
03:16:33,860 --> 03:16:35,960
just not true. A total badass,
Sam, you

3359
03:16:35,960 --> 03:16:37,100
think you just fell out of a

3360
03:16:37,880 --> 03:16:38,480
coconut tree?

3361
03:16:40,940 --> 03:16:42,460
Look lost and confused,

3362
03:16:42,460 --> 03:16:44,380
so she lowered everyone's
income. Everything is in

3363
03:16:44,380 --> 03:16:44,860
context.

3364
03:16:48,400 --> 03:16:49,120
Adam Curry: Is that a good
thing?

3365
03:16:49,180 --> 03:16:51,280
Unknown: That is a good thing.
You think

3366
03:16:51,460 --> 03:16:55,120
you just fell out of the coconut
tree. They

3367
03:16:55,120 --> 03:16:58,060
don't care about me at all, at
all, at all.

3368
03:16:59,140 --> 03:17:00,780
Who the hell is in charge

3369
03:17:00,960 --> 03:17:05,820
because she is smart and she's
more reliable. They don't want

3370
03:17:05,820 --> 03:17:09,000
a population of citizens capable
of critical thinking. They don't

3371
03:17:09,000 --> 03:17:12,000
want well informed, well
educated people capable of

3372
03:17:12,000 --> 03:17:14,520
critical thinking. They're not
interested in that. That doesn't

3373
03:17:14,520 --> 03:17:14,940
help them.

3374
03:17:15,120 --> 03:17:17,580
That's against their interest.
That's great.

3375
03:17:17,820 --> 03:17:19,440
I don't know what's wrong with
you young people.

3376
03:17:20,340 --> 03:17:22,700
The leader who's tough. Hey,
this

3377
03:17:23,720 --> 03:17:28,520
scorching heat is is happening
globally, in Canada, and it's

3378
03:17:28,520 --> 03:17:29,180
unrelenting.

3379
03:17:30,440 --> 03:17:34,100
And one climate scientist at
Berkeley, you may have read

3380
03:17:34,100 --> 03:17:37,880
this, Dave said that this is
absolutely Gob, smackingly

3381
03:17:37,880 --> 03:17:39,320
bananas. And that's coming

3382
03:17:40,700 --> 03:17:43,600
Adam Curry: from a scientist. Oh
no, a scientist used the word

3383
03:17:43,600 --> 03:17:44,740
gobsmack.

3384
03:17:45,820 --> 03:17:48,520
Unknown: Yeah, malicious
malaria, mosquitoes are back.

3385
03:17:48,520 --> 03:17:51,400
Another gates invention with
this theory a mental attack

3386
03:17:51,640 --> 03:17:54,340
stick a thermometer in this
Jacuzzi. Planet scorching,

3387
03:17:54,340 --> 03:17:58,120
torrential roti. I think I know
who planned it. Gobsmackingly

3388
03:17:58,120 --> 03:18:01,620
bananas. Ocean's a hot tub, and
now they want to cancel winter

3389
03:18:01,620 --> 03:18:05,400
in Canada. It's pretty chilly
here all year. Survey everything

3390
03:18:05,400 --> 03:18:08,580
and stop almost nothing. Old is
the new fear. What's the cost

3391
03:18:08,580 --> 03:18:10,440
for you? Citizenship, my boss,

3392
03:18:10,680 --> 03:18:12,300
Adam Curry: it's a Jacuzzi
planet. I'm

3393
03:18:12,420 --> 03:18:15,840
Unknown: so cross claiming
privacy is necessary to protect

3394
03:18:15,840 --> 03:18:18,660
the neck only real way to keep
the masses really in check,

3395
03:18:18,660 --> 03:18:22,220
because they don't really rally,
distracted with the day to day,

3396
03:18:22,220 --> 03:18:26,240
the grind. I mean, the dreck.
They don't really rally.

3397
03:18:26,240 --> 03:18:29,600
Distracted with the day to day,
the grind and the dreck, global

3398
03:18:29,600 --> 03:18:33,020
citizen, never made sense to me.
You can only live your life as a

3399
03:18:33,020 --> 03:18:36,920
private, sovereign entity. Can
we all agree collectivism over

3400
03:18:36,920 --> 03:18:39,560
your individuality is a hell of
a schism if

3401
03:18:40,580 --> 03:18:43,000
John C Dvorak: you're going to
stick a thermometer in the

3402
03:18:43,060 --> 03:18:46,480
planet, yeah, to get an accurate
temperature, wouldn't you stick

3403
03:18:46,480 --> 03:18:51,400
it into into the planet's
butthole, or Toronto, as it

3404
03:18:51,400 --> 03:18:51,580
were,

3405
03:18:51,640 --> 03:18:55,540
Adam Curry: I already made,
sorry.

3406
03:18:58,000 --> 03:19:03,180
Unknown: I think that, listen,
we today is actually, I believe,

3407
03:19:03,900 --> 03:19:09,480
an anniversary, in terms of Dr
King, right? And, and we, I was

3408
03:19:09,480 --> 03:19:13,080
just in Selma, and we
celebrated, to acknowledge the

3409
03:19:13,080 --> 03:19:17,520
59th anniversary of the Bloody
Sunday. I think it's really

3410
03:19:17,520 --> 03:19:21,980
important that we as Americans
always embrace our history, the

3411
03:19:21,980 --> 03:19:25,400
parts that we're proud of, and
the parts that we're not proud

3412
03:19:25,400 --> 03:19:31,340
of, but that we can't forget.
And we should all agree that we

3413
03:19:31,340 --> 03:19:34,520
should teach history. We should
learn history if we're to ever

3414
03:19:34,520 --> 03:19:38,840
have an accurate idea of where
we want to go and where we don't

3415
03:19:38,840 --> 03:19:44,020
want to go in the future, and
that means also acknowledging

3416
03:19:44,020 --> 03:19:47,020
the importance of diversity. It
means acknowledging the

3417
03:19:47,020 --> 03:19:51,220
importance of the fact that
everyone should have an equal

3418
03:19:51,220 --> 03:19:55,660
opportunity to compete and
equity. And of course, includes,

3419
03:19:55,660 --> 03:19:59,680
you know, hey, let's look around
the room and see who's not here.

3420
03:19:59,680 --> 03:20:01,680
And. Did we leave the door open?

3421
03:20:01,680 --> 03:20:06,000
Kamala, you've done a horrible
job. You've been the worst vice

3422
03:20:06,060 --> 03:20:08,700
president in the history of our
country. Kamala,

3423
03:20:10,500 --> 03:20:12,180
you're fired. You're

3424
03:20:12,180 --> 03:20:12,960
fired. Get out.

3425
03:20:13,560 --> 03:20:14,880
Get out. Yes. Queen, yes. Queen,

3426
03:20:15,000 --> 03:20:15,840
this podcast is on

3427
03:20:22,560 --> 03:20:27,620
universe. Podcast.org/n, a,

3428
03:20:28,640 --> 03:20:30,320
this is blatant

3429
03:20:30,380 --> 03:20:31,160
sexism. I.