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John C Dvorak: To all signs
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Adam Curry: and 2020 for this
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assassination episode 1673 This

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Unknown: is no agenda

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Adam Curry: clarifying the clown
show and broadcasting live from

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the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region

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number six. In the morning,
everybody I'm Adam curry.

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John C Dvorak: Hey from New
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everybody wants Kamla Harris for
President I'm Jonathan

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Adam Curry: Hill. As funny that
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deconstruction as well go Kamla

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John C Dvorak: I wish that
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Adam Curry: received a very rare
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night. He says hey, got any
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John C Dvorak: Very funny. Yeah.
Before we begin our

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deconstruction because everyone
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this oh,

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Adam Curry: let me tell you
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morning. Hey, I can't wait to
hear what you guys have to say.

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Oh, everyone's like half the
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gonna have what you got to get
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John C Dvorak: well, this you
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Adam Curry: why do you think I
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customers? Yes. Why we should
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John C Dvorak: a couple of super
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Adam Curry: have a super clip as
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John C Dvorak: I have a before
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befores and one after. Okay. And
why are they get debit for

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debate? So, I would like to
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Unknown: are just hours away
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presidential debate in Atlanta.
And while President Biden and

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former President Donald Trump
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2020. As you all know, so much
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right now the race could not be
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debate. Senator Klobuchar.
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into what's leading on many
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polling suggests is this concern
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you're speaking to a reporter
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ago because I inquired about
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is it tonight that Mr. Biden
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there has been a big moment
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predicting some fiasco every
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the occasion. Look at it, the
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chief. And you know, they can
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Trump is nearly the same age and
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felony indictments?

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Adam Curry: Not really not
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John C Dvorak: super super super
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Adam Curry: Now is it good
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Unknown: Advantage. Joe Biden,
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then you better vote for Joe
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version of Biden,
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the best Biden ever about it. On
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hand, I think that, you know,
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will wipe the floor for me what
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Donald Trump better, better be
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he is visibly in in better
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buyers in far better shape.
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physically active. He's on a
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Biden on the campaign trail. Get
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the scenes all the time about
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of the themes this election
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old to lead and so everyone is
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classic disinformation tactic.
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Adam Curry: what a rug poll. All
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John C Dvorak: the same
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Unknown: After the debate, now
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God in June and not October in
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Democrats to decide whether this
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very long On Time is up to the
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blame it on a cold, blame it on
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preparation, whatever. But he
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go. Maybe he needs to be honest
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than I expected the performance.
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seconds it was kind of baked in,
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today, but I think President
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now. And I don't know what you
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were in a lot of cases not
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nothing to disabuse, I think the
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very old and was lost
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that he had to prove to the
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that. It's kind of a DEF CON one
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Adam Curry: That was painful. I
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Biden. He didn't do well at all.
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Unknown: The only job that Joe
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reassure America that he was not
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disappointed devastated by Joe
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I don't believe He's our best
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Adam Curry: Before we continue,
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a little bit, I would like to
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announcement. This is a public
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Attorney General of the great
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Unknown: Hi, my name is Beau
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state of Delaware. Here to talk
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very important to me, and to my
office senior abuse, which falls

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into one of three categories,
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exploitation. For every one of
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reported to our office five go
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senior Americans are affected
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crimes are committed by family
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level. We need your help seniors
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suspect that anyone is affected
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contact our elder abuse hotline.
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Adam Curry: I think right after
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example of elder abuse by a
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you answered every question. I
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John C Dvorak: Are we so you
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Adam Curry: I think we could
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because the setup for this
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caboodle John Pierre, with the
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John C Dvorak: probably a gaslit
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Adam Curry: the gaslit public's
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Republicans. They're deceptively
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true. That because I remember
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good one cheap fakes. That's not
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that came from someone who was
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John C Dvorak: yeah, because you
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specific. No, but we all know
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change the the the, the
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which rhymes with deep and makes
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really mean anything. There's no
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Adam Curry: Now, the thing that
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wasn't audio is what you saw on
the screen. I'm sure you saw it

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too. Right after the debate when
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John C Dvorak: CNN is the only
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what you're going to talk them.
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Adam Curry: MSNBC did the same
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John C Dvorak: on CBS. No, no,
I'm saying it wasn't on ABC or

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Adam Curry: It was on now
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think 15 People MSNBC had about
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third kept coming up. Democrat
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sources say this is horrendous.
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one after the other. And then
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don't think that these these
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John C Dvorak: Like oh, I think
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Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no,
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where he where Jill literally
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him getting down each step. No
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now you and I know enough about
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Chiron editor sits there and
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country, President Biden should
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complete setup. And all of these
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the calls, that's all they could
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I'm getting I'm getting caught

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Jordan, and they would not name
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from the Obama world people
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John C Dvorak: it interesting.
The and I'm gonna stay with your

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thesis here because I kind of
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to the is that for example, on
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full of people and say, eight or
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of them were getting calls. work
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have a job to do. You're good.
You have to prepare for this for

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the setup that's going on for
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something very fishy about Yeah,
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Adam Curry: Let me put it this
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text call DMS, whatever it
that's kind of irrelevant how it

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are the people that tell them
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nothing, no other thing to say
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have no brain cells. They just
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there insiders, the donors who
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in those on those panels. Now
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gotta go. It's done. Oh, no, it
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way, coincidentally, is good.
June 28 1914, is when arch

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Archduke Ferdinand was
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political trend. Every 110 years
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John C Dvorak: why the by the
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ranks? What do you mean that the
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closed ranks? Biden's not going
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spirits the next day? Oh, yeah,
of course, of course, and blah,

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blah, blah, blah, blah. And I.
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guys that was on Fox. And he's
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congressman, he's under one of
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it up for the Electoral College.
He says that there's close you

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can't change the name of the
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including Nevada, in a good
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way you can get by right there,
correct? Yes, he dies?

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Adam Curry: Well, there's Well,
there's a couple of options

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here. As I understand as well,
because of the delegates, you

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know, you can't pull them out.
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convention process. The only
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work is if Well, there's two
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he is nominated as the
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suddenly, or there's also 25th
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Newsweek is already kind of
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know if that's really going to
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John C Dvorak: What that's never
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Adam Curry: we need to be on
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I want all the no agenda
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watch women keep your eyes open
because something it's something

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else is happening while we're
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there's another shoe to drop, we
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piece of this. Of this up. And I
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point might be nuclear codes.
national security, no, that

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shouldn't be trumped to that.
Well, that's what I'm saying

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that they haven't even done that
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was obvious it was way early
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taken place. So it was planned
but we just don't know why I'm

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is behind this op very possible
they they're the guys with the

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money that they want an event
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Joe in there. He can't have his
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kinds of possibilities there of
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John C Dvorak: can speculate all
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difficult thing to get It is
it's a what? Whoever set this

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up? Let's go right back to the
beginning. Who decided not to

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Adam Curry: But hold on? You
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original thesis has been they
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John C Dvorak: That's been the
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Adam Curry: Now who didn't jack
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now, the person to watch is
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handler, that's clear. If she
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be livid. And I, from what I
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now at Camp David. They'll
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Biden will ultimately listen to
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Jill. Now why are they saying
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because there's reasons. is it
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Biden, I mean, you're president,
you still have power? That Biden

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is just like, No, no, I'm not
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tell them you're not going.
Maybe she's the power hungry

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John C Dvorak: She sure maybe
she really thinks she maybe Sure

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looks it Oh, my God, she is it?
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Adam Curry: you know, so it's
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couldn't get him to step down.
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what, we'll do it this way.
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John C Dvorak: if you recall, in
2020, or 2019, probably, Biden

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says he was only running for
president for one term, and then

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he's gonna pass it on. He said
that I don't know if he ever.

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But we all everybody remembers
him doing I'm only going to run

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for one term. And that's all I
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And we'll put some we'll get
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And then all of a sudden, out of
the blue after flying around in

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the big jet and having nothing
but fun and free meals with

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especially Jill having fun in
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herself in the big jet. And the
small jet. She, why are we

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quitting this job? We can run
again, I don't understand why

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this one. thing, you're doing a
good job.

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Adam Curry: I'd like this jet.
This jet is great. Yeah, that's

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all very possible. Now there's,
there's a kind of far out there

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theory which in a way, through a
funny way, although I don't like

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the source that you sent me
from. about Putin. And I don't

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have confirmation yet, because I
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John C Dvorak: Oh, the Putin
thing? Yeah, apparently, I just

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sent that to you. Because it was
fun. If true, you and Putin are

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thinking in the same. Same way.

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Adam Curry: So the Putin theory,
Putin says, Be careful, the

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Americans are setting up a bird
flew when he called Bio weapon

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attack. Now, should that be
true? And there's ample evidence

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for it? But you know, quite a
stretch. The problem with Biden

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is, is not that he's, you know,
that he is clearly mentally

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deficient. Is the problem is
that, I mean, he's losing by too

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big a margin. So just bear with
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election, which seems completely
possible, then all you really

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need is someone who could be
plausible enough to win. So that

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when you fix the results, you
say, Well, I mean, it was Gavin

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Newsom, yo, or was fill in the
blank, Pamela, can't Well, even

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Camela, even Camela would work.
So they really, they really just

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need a candidate who could give
plausibility to ballot counting

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results. Now, you could do that
with a with a with another plan.

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Demick possibly, although I
don't know, you could do it with

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the cyber attack. Oh, the
infrastructure is broken. We

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have to go to paper ballots. But
I don't think that they've

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unveiled they haven't shown
their hand to us yet. It's not

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there. But

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John C Dvorak: then again, we
have our self contradictory

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belief that Trump is the target
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Adam Curry: That's the one that
seems most logical. And I think

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that, you know, Trump is just
saying I want I want I want I

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mean, why is it so obvious that
this was an opt to take that why

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isn't he saying the obvious this
troubles me? Why is he saying

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while the Democrats really don't
want Joe to win, do they?

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Everybody can see that? Why
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John C Dvorak: There's been a
lot of speculation, especially

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from the right wingers on the
stuff that Trump's not saying.

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Mm hmm. If it's if we're if
everything we say and suspect is

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true, he has been told not to
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Adam Curry: afraid that that's
true. I mean, it just had this

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format the way CNN set it up.
They didn't do any of the fact

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checking, which was just
unbelievable. By the way. Did

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you see Erin Burnett? I did. Oh,
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that. Oh, my goodness. She looks
she's back to her fighting

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weight when she was on CNBC. Oh,
yeah. Oh, yeah. Good. Here she

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is. Here she is.

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Unknown: The candidates
performance and demeanor tonight

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notwithstanding, there is the
crucial question of the truth of

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what was actually said on stage.
And our fact checker Daniel Dale

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joins us now. So Daniel, what
stands out to you?

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What stood out was the
staggering number of false

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claims from former President
Trump on first count error and I

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counted at least 3030 false
claims. President Biden also

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made false claims at least nine
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First count, I'll give you some
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president in a while who didn't
have any troops dying anywhere

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in the world. Troops have of
course died on his watch. He

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said he's putting a $15 per shot
cap on insulin. Medicare is a

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$35 a month cap. He said it's a
$200 cap on overall drug

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spending and Medicare. It's
$2,000 a year. He said the

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border now has fewer crossings
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That's generally not true. He
said or at least strongly

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suggested unemployment was at
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actually 6.4. He said Trump's
what Trump wants to get rid of

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Social Security. Trump doesn't.
He said billionaires pay 8.2% in

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taxes. It's much higher. He said
Trump told Americans to inject

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bleach amid COVID. We know Trump
made foolish comments about

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scientists studying disinfectant
injection, but didn't frame it

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as advice to people. And Biden
said the Border Patrol endorsed

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him. No, it's union supported
the border Bill heat support. It

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never endorsed him himself. In
fairness, the President did

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appear to clarify that one. So

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Adam Curry: that's the Biden
that what? Yeah, no, that's

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John C Dvorak: not true. He
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Adam Curry: No, but that's the
Biden fact check. much funnier

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is Trump fact check. This guy, I
gotta give him kudos. Who's this

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guy? This guy is Daniel Dale,
listen to this. Now.

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Unknown: The Trump list is way
way longer. So deep breath. He

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said some Democratic states
allow people to execute babies

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after birth, an egregious lie
that is illegal in every state.

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He said everybody even Democrats
wanted Roe v. Wade overturn. Roe

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was supported by two thirds of
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wanted roe overturn abortion to

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return to the state's legal
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this is not true. He said the US
currently has the biggest budget

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deficit ever. No, that happened
under Trump in 2020. He said the

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US currently has a record trade
deficit with China. That also

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happened under Trump in 2018. He
said Biden personally gets a lot

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of money from China. zero
evidence of this. He said there

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were no terror attacks during
his presidency. Yeah, in fact,

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there were multiple attacks. He
said Iran didn't fund Hamas,

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Hezbollah other terror groups
under his presidency. Iran, in

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fact did. He said Biden wants to
quadruple people's taxes. That

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is pure fiction. He said the US
has provided way more aid to

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Ukraine than Europe had. It's
actually the opposite. He said

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the US provide has provided
about 200 billion in Ukraine aid

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it's closer to 110 billion. He
said 18 or 90 million people

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have crossed the border under
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Many of these migrants are from
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His own campaign cannot
corroborate this. He said Biden

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has only created jobs for
illegal immigrants total

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nonsense. He said Nancy Pelosi
turned down his offer of 10,000

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National Guard troops on January
6, there is no evidence she even

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got such an offer. I love this
guy Pelosi who had the power to

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deploy the DC guard. He said
Pelosi now acknowledges she

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turned down the troops. Now her
office told me tells me this

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claim is still alive.

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Adam Curry: No, not on CNN, the

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Unknown: National Guard to
Minneapolis in 2020. Actually,

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that was the Democratic governor
he spoke of quote, ridiculous

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fraud in the 2020 election, zero
evidence of any widespread

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fraud. He said NATO was going
out of business. Completely,

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clearly absurd. He said the US
was paying 100% of NATO before

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he came along the US made up
about 71% of NATO defense

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spending 100. He said he not
Biden is the one who lowered

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insulin prices and Medicare. He
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Biden did it for far more. He
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no evidence Biden has had a
personal row at any of these

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four prosecutions. He said
Europe takes no US cars just not

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true. He spoke of food prices
quadrupling under Biden. Wild

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exaggeration, though they are up
he said Biden made up the idea

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he called Dead service members
suckers and losers Note The

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Atlantic magazine reported that
and then former Trump Chief of

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Staff John Kelly corroborated it
he said Biden called Black

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people quote, super predators
for 10 years. Biden never once

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deployed that phrase, let alone
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least one speak of quote
predators without specifying is

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about black people.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, okay, stop.
I'll stop there. Yeah, it will.

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John C Dvorak: goes on and on. I
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Adam Curry: I just want to stop
the super predators one minute

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because I happen to have these
clips. The person who said super

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predators was this mystery.
Hillary, there's about 100 That

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has nothing. Why is this
happening? Oh, that's weird.

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John C Dvorak: I always love it
why he was all in on that DOMA?

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Adam Curry: Well, I have that.
Here's the why did that fail?

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There we go,

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Unknown: not just gangs of kids
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kinds of kids that are called
super predators, no conscience,

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no empathy. We can talk about
why they ended up that way. But

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first, we have to bring them to
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Adam Curry: This was about
little yami, who was on the

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cover of Time Magazine, black
rain and the heel. As part of

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that black kid with a machine
gun. This was part of and this

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is this was the signal from
Trump to black America, everyone

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in America that's black knows
about the Biden 1994 crime bill,

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Unknown: there's about 100,000
of them, who are the predators

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100,000 of the kids read about
in the front page of the

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newspaper every day, unless we
do something about that cadre of

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young people 10s of 1000s of
them born out of wedlock.

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Without parents without
supervision, without any

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structure. Without any
conscience developing a portion

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of them will become the
predators 15 years from now. And

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Madam President, we have
predators on our streets, they

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are beyond the pale many of
those people, we have no choice

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but to take them out of society.
Believe

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Adam Curry: me, black America
knows exactly what Joe Biden

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did. That was a nice reminder.

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John C Dvorak: Well, and the
fact check, which I have a

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couple of these I want to play.
The fact check guy, you know, I

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think was Scott Adams who had
some posts about you know,

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there's a difference between
actually actually lying, or

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misstating the truth, and like
saying that Biden said, super

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predators instead of just
predators, referring to the

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super predators that Clinton
referenced, is not a one of

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these checkmark lies, he lies
No, of course not. And I find it

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very disgusting that this whole
it was almost like from the

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beginning it was if Trump's
gonna get back in, they're going

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to hold him really, to heal,
let's say, you know, because

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they did that we already
witnessed this, the lies about

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Trump saying lies, you know, the
30,000 lies that were

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documented. We went through a
lot of them on this show back in

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2017 2018. And most of these
lies weren't lies. They were

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like, misstatements of fact, and
a misstatement of fact is not a

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lie.

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Adam Curry: agreed this this is
the talking point, though, you

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know, so like, Joe had a bad
night, but Trump lied,

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Unknown: he died.

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John C Dvorak: Well, in fact,
let's go to his I'm gonna go

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back to CBS because that's what
I watched this thing. And this

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is the this clip is debate throw
to CBS. So the debate is ending

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on CNN. And they're gonna end
they end CBS picks up the feed,

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and you hear this.

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Adam Curry: I'm really
struggling to find throw to PBS

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John C Dvorak: debate. Debate.

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Adam Curry: It says Thor, okay,
got it.

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Unknown: Thank you, President

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Trump, Gabon, President Biden.
Stay with us because we have

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full analysis of this debate. It
Newson Cooper and Erin Burnett

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starts now on CNN. And so the
first presidential debate of the

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2024 election season is in the
books as you want witnessed

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President Biden opening this
debate and continuing the very

489
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shaky voice, a raspy voice that
we have learned from advisors

490
00:28:37,410 --> 00:28:39,870
close to him that apparently
he's had a cold for the past

491
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several days. But he also had a
number of wandering answers

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during this debate. He had a
number of facts and

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accomplishments that he wanted
to touted, but I think his voice

494
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and sometimes was distracting
from that President Trump drove

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offered this

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Adam Curry: you say Trump? Yes.
They're so confused. They drove

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distracting

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Unknown: from that. President
Trump offered repeated lies and

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exaggerations but then President
Biden failed to fact check Trump

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most of the time. We've got our
entire panel here tonight to

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discuss what we witnessed. John
Dickerson, I'll start with you.

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For

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the majority of Americans who
don't want this choice. The

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debate met those expectations. I
think you characterized it

505
00:29:20,820 --> 00:29:24,600
correctly. What we heard about
President Biden is people who

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know know him said, you know,
when he was underestimated in

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the 2020 campaign, people said
look to his convention speech

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and eat exceeded expectations.
They said look to his State of

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00:29:33,810 --> 00:29:36,720
the Union addresses when he
exceeded expectations. on the

510
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,110
debate stage, he came in well
under expectations both as a

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matter of performance, and as
arguing for why his vision for

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the future is better. As you
mentioned, Donald Trump gave

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fantastical delusional answers
on January 6, on Charlottesville

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on what he said about the last
election and that matters,

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because he's trying to convince
people who saw things with their

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own eyes that what they saw was
not so good. That's

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Adam Curry: interesting. I
thought the very fine people

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which we know is factually just
a lie from Biden.

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John C Dvorak: It's a lie.

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Adam Curry: Have you heard a lot
of people pick that up? I mean,

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I haven't got I don't have any
clips of people saying, hey,

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Biden.

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John C Dvorak: Dickerson just
did and it's been picked up by

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others in the mainstream mostly.
And it's like they're denying In

525
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fact, if you Snopes of all
places, Snopes says his

526
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bullshit, and which is very
unusual. And but Dickerson's? I

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was stunned by this because this
guy was thought was on top of

528
00:30:35,130 --> 00:30:38,220
things, but the fact that he
thinks the Charlottesville

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comments were, were not couched
improperly and and were actually

530
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a hoax. And he also says the
same thing about January 6, and

531
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this involved Trump's memo to
Pelosi dad, National Guard

532
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troops and then Pelosi
commenting in the limo with her

533
00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:58,980
with her with her daughter. For
the documentary that she's

534
00:30:58,980 --> 00:31:02,880
making. That was the fall saw
this, where she's lamenting the

535
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fact that she could have done
these troops, which, which Trump

536
00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:09,240
referenced, and they say that's
a lie. What make when they use

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this term, oh, you see it with
your own two eyes. Make no

538
00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:13,020
mistake,

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00:31:13,050 --> 00:31:14,910
this is terrible. The media,

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00:31:14,910 --> 00:31:18,000
Adam Curry: people don't really
see what we see. I mean, this is

541
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apparent from Tucker Carlson,
who was just now kind of having

542
00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:25,950
his awakening. He saying, Wow, I
really didn't realize how how

543
00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:31,020
bad it was. He was in it
himself. So these people, they

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all they're doing, John has to
have in lunches to go into

545
00:31:33,390 --> 00:31:35,910
parties that doing lots with
each other with each other doing

546
00:31:35,910 --> 00:31:39,510
lots of calls. And here's the
one thing I'd really like some

547
00:31:39,510 --> 00:31:43,290
analysis on from one of our
producers. Interestingly enough,

548
00:31:43,620 --> 00:31:47,490
Sanjay Gupta has a special,
which I think aired in May, but

549
00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:52,410
they're re airing it tonight on
CNN, hope for Alzheimer's. I

550
00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:57,030
mean, how crazy can you be for
CNN to put that on again? What

551
00:31:57,030 --> 00:32:02,250
is there a particular? Is there
a particular chemical or

552
00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:05,310
something that you can give to
someone with Alzheimer's that

553
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will indeed perk them up? Make
the Bluesun coherent for a while

554
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,110
maybe only reading it from a
teleprompter? Is there something

555
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that for a limited time works,
no one has really discussed

556
00:32:16,410 --> 00:32:17,670
that? Well, we

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John C Dvorak: did have one of
our producers send in a note

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about her mom who had
Alzheimer's. And she said that

559
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they gave her something and she
and mom snapped out of it. What

560
00:32:30,330 --> 00:32:33,030
was that claims? I've that's
where I said you got to find out

561
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what it is. And I have not heard
back. But she says the mom

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believes she was as lucid as she
was when she was in her 20s and

563
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everybody was just jacked up
about it. But it was something I

564
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guess you can't keep giving
somebody or it only works you

565
00:32:47,670 --> 00:32:51,360
know, every so often I don't
know. So we have to there's got

566
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to be somebody out to the knows
exactly what this concoction is.

567
00:32:54,510 --> 00:32:54,810
Must

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Adam Curry: be Adrenochrome

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John C Dvorak: oh, maybe it is.
Whatever the case is the day

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didn't give it to Joe on this go
round for whatever reason. We

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have our suspicions but he
definitely was not jacked up.

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Joe. I, I was disappointed I
kind of at the very beginning.

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From I only have three Biden
clips that we can play if you

574
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:23,730
want when you want. But well,
they're all good ones. And

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they're short. I didn't take the
whole two minutes, which Biden

576
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didn't a lot of times either.

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Adam Curry: I like let me let me
play the Deutsche Chevelle, I

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was kind of looking what the
rest of the rest of the world

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has other elections. We'll talk
about the later Iran has a run

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00:33:38,010 --> 00:33:42,000
off the UK has their election
coming up with some shenanigans

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going on. Deutsche Avella, who
of course is a direct extension

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of, of our intelligence
services, they went out into

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America into American cities and
got man on the street, which I

584
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haven't seen yet from the cable
networks, news networks. Now,

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00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,470
these are of course, not Trump
voters. But here it is

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Unknown: close to us. Voters are
processing the Biden Trump

587
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:08,670
debate. And while the faithful
remain loyal to their respective

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00:34:08,670 --> 00:34:12,960
candidates, undecided voters
right across the country seem

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largely unimpressed by what they
saw, and many aren't sure what

590
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to sing in downtown New York. I
thought it was a little funny

591
00:34:21,810 --> 00:34:23,340
and a little sad. In

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a lot of ranting. Nothing was
being talked about. That was

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important.

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00:34:30,570 --> 00:34:33,990
What other was right, it was
hard to understand. The

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00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:39,090
President and the other guy was
rambling off.

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Meanwhile, on the streets of
Philadelphia,

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00:34:41,910 --> 00:34:46,500
I expected nonsense from Trump
and he always delivered. But

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00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:49,380
Biden I was a little
disappointed because I really

599
00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:51,750
wanted him to answer the
questions. That's

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the race to the bottom all over
again. Last night was the mummy

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versus the dummy. The

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00:34:57,780 --> 00:35:00,660
sentiment was echoed in
Washington DC

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I think it's a national
embarrassment that that is our

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00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:15,570
representation of leadership. I
wasn't very impressed with

605
00:35:15,570 --> 00:35:19,590
either. On the west coast, one
man articulated the dilemma

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faced by an entire nation.

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It sucks because we have two
candidates that, you know, a lot

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of people don't want to vote for
either one of them. And if you

609
00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:35,550
don't vote for Biden, you're
stuck with Trump. And if you

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00:35:35,550 --> 00:35:39,450
vote for Trump, you got to see
people riding around treating

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00:35:39,450 --> 00:35:42,270
the American flag, like it's a
racist symbol.

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Adam Curry: I think that might
be actually representative of

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the cities. I mean, we know what
the heartland thinks. Yeah, the

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cities are gaslit. Yeah, all of
them. But even so I thought that

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was probably a pretty good
represent. I'd like it might not

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be my memory. It might be it
could be I like the mummy versus

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the dummy. I kind of like Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: but I don't know
who's the mummy who's either.

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Adam Curry: Does it matter? Does
it matter? Keith Olbermann

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00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,600
weighed in our buddy Keith. He,
he took it straight to

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Unknown: CNN, the decision to
not fact check the firehose of

622
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:21,630
lies that is Donald Trump, that
is the entirety of his existence

623
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:24,900
and the entirety of his
campaign. The decision to not

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00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:30,780
fact check any one of those lies
by CNN was one of the most

625
00:36:30,810 --> 00:36:34,830
immoral decisions in the history
of the Free Press in this

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00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:38,880
country. Literally, I am
suggesting that at some point

627
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:44,820
tonight, CNN should it will not
go off the air and shame fire

628
00:36:44,820 --> 00:36:48,420
everybody seal off the
buildings, make sure everybody's

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out and burn the goddamn place
to the ground.

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Adam Curry: That the format was
really interesting. And the fact

631
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that they decided not I don't
know if that was part of the

632
00:37:00,540 --> 00:37:03,660
agreement and the rules, there
would be no real facts real time

633
00:37:03,660 --> 00:37:06,870
fact checking. That's what
everybody wanted or resumes in

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00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:10,500
fact, check Trump in real time.
The it was a very straight up

635
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:12,000
and down format.

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John C Dvorak: very steady was
dynamite that way, I don't think

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00:37:15,090 --> 00:37:18,270
the hosts are the moderators are
supposed to get people to talk

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00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:20,700
and not talk. They're not
supposed to sit there as fact

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00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:26,520
checkers. because there'll be
biased. Yeah, candidates are

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00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,960
supposed to fact check each
other.

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00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:31,050
Adam Curry: Let's go to another
more kind of really mainstream

642
00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:35,640
report from TMZ. A very popular
a lot of people watch TMZ for

643
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,580
their news, see what's up with
Taylor Swift and the important

644
00:37:38,580 --> 00:37:39,600
stuff like that. Look

645
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,160
Unknown: at that picture there.
With his mouth, a gape. I know

646
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:50,220
that his people worked for a
week with David, they were doing

647
00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:54,060
this whole prep, they had a mock
Stage Right? Did a mock

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00:37:54,060 --> 00:37:58,710
candidate hit anybody videotape
it? To say here's how you should

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00:37:58,710 --> 00:38:02,340
look when you when when Donald
Trump is speaking, and you

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00:38:02,340 --> 00:38:05,760
shouldn't be looking off into
nowhere with your mouth mouth

651
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,310
open, right? It's like you're
looking down or there are a lot

652
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:10,440
of times where he was looking
down and his mouth was a gape,

653
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,700
which really scared me because I
thought, did he fall asleep? Is

654
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:17,760
he gonna fall over? Your right
leg? Isn't that just the

655
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,720
variables make a big difference?
And it seemed like, it seemed

656
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:25,020
like he had a lot of facts. And
even though he got them wrong,

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00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:29,010
many, many, maybe too many. But
the visual was not something

658
00:38:29,010 --> 00:38:32,370
that was front was clearly it
was not a priority. And

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00:38:32,370 --> 00:38:35,430
everybody was thinking last
night, it wasn't really about

660
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:38,610
the issues, although, you know,
they spent they knew where they

661
00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:42,720
both stood on right. It was just
about presentation. And you

662
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,950
know, I gotta say, as as bad as
it was to watch and

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00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:52,230
heartbreaking really to watch.
Look at Joe Biden leaving the

664
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:57,900
stage, Joe Biden. I mean, that
was just stunning to watch this.

665
00:38:57,990 --> 00:39:01,920
After everything you'd seen for
the 90 minutes of the debate.

666
00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:05,820
That was like the affirmation,
this slow walk with the First

667
00:39:05,820 --> 00:39:06,360
Lady.

668
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,310
Adam Curry: There was at least
one good entertaining deep fake,

669
00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:14,370
which circulated for a bit. Did
you see this one?

670
00:39:15,090 --> 00:39:17,940
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
I don't think so. The best part

671
00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:21,930
Adam Curry: is it was the it
works because someone made a

672
00:39:21,930 --> 00:39:25,320
shorter version of it. Because
if you saw it and I have both

673
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,930
clips, if you saw the longer
version, then you understood it

674
00:39:27,930 --> 00:39:31,110
was a deep fake. But this one I
was sent to me by multiple

675
00:39:31,110 --> 00:39:31,530
people

676
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,040
Unknown: if they bring out Gavin
Newsom, or maybe Hillary

677
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,580
Clinton, or even Big Mike. I
mean, even

678
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,840
John C Dvorak: I don't know why
I said Big Mike, back to you,

679
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,170
Jay.

680
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,770
Adam Curry: So a lot of people
said, Listen to this. Now, this

681
00:39:46,770 --> 00:39:50,280
is the original you this. People
actually think this. Some people

682
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,450
thought it was real. Absolutely.
This, the longer version is why

683
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,760
you wouldn't think that 33%

684
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,110
Unknown: Say he won the debate
tonight.

685
00:39:58,140 --> 00:40:01,500
John C Dvorak: I mean, guys at
this point. I don't give a shit

686
00:40:01,590 --> 00:40:06,120
if they bring out Gavin Newsom
or maybe Hillary Clinton. The

687
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,070
guy who this is typical they
overdo it

688
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:11,220
Adam Curry: Yeah, the shorter
version works the shorter

689
00:40:11,220 --> 00:40:13,710
version was much better people
only sending me the short

690
00:40:13,710 --> 00:40:16,860
version I always go look for the
long version and let's see this

691
00:40:17,370 --> 00:40:20,700
John C Dvorak: if you get a play
screwy guys, I have a we have to

692
00:40:20,730 --> 00:40:22,110
listen to Ching Chung.

693
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:26,040
Adam Curry: Oh my God he was
great. Chunk was phenomenal.

694
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:30,690
John C Dvorak: I actually got
the whole thing but a part two

695
00:40:30,690 --> 00:40:32,910
parts of it. But you only need
to play the first one. This is

696
00:40:33,150 --> 00:40:38,100
Deb annal analysis at shank
shank TYT. Young Turks

697
00:40:38,130 --> 00:40:40,710
Unknown: in the whole time to
split screen is killing Biden.

698
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:44,610
Because he's got his mouth open.
He looks confused, doesn't know

699
00:40:44,610 --> 00:40:48,000
where he is. And he's lost his
train of thought at least twice

700
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,810
in like disastrous shape. Those
are going to be played a billion

701
00:40:51,810 --> 00:40:56,760
times and viral video after
viral video. This is an epic

702
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,620
disaster. It like I see people
online saying well, okay, that

703
00:41:01,620 --> 00:41:05,550
answer was so bad. No. Does any
particular answer doesn't matter

704
00:41:05,550 --> 00:41:10,680
at all. This thing is over. He
looks like he's barely

705
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,940
surviving. I don't mean the
debate. I mean life, then. So

706
00:41:15,210 --> 00:41:19,350
there's no person that has a
single brain cell left in their

707
00:41:19,350 --> 00:41:23,100
head, who thinks that Joe Biden
is the best candidate to take on

708
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:27,840
Donald Trump? You wouldn't have
to be even crazier than Donald

709
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,730
Trump to think that this thing
is over over. I'll guarantee you

710
00:41:32,730 --> 00:41:36,930
this. I would bet any show me a
Democratic politician and I will

711
00:41:36,930 --> 00:41:40,770
bet them any amount of money
that Joe Biden is going to lose

712
00:41:40,770 --> 00:41:43,620
this election if he's the
candidate. It's a guaranteed

713
00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:46,290
loss. You're telling me here's
the most important election of

714
00:41:46,290 --> 00:41:49,560
our lifetimes. You're telling me
that democracy is on the line,

715
00:41:50,010 --> 00:41:53,760
and you're gonna put on a guy
who can't even talk? Who can't

716
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,010
even sit there and look normal?
This thing's a bloodbath. He's

717
00:41:59,010 --> 00:42:04,740
gonna get annihilated. That is,
okay. Now the Democrats have to

718
00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:08,310
decide, are they happy to lose?
Are they willing to lose?

719
00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:12,690
Because this is a guaranteed
loss? This is so much worse than

720
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:17,310
my worst nightmares of what it
could be like in every way. The

721
00:42:17,310 --> 00:42:21,960
visual stuff is obvious. The
staring off the looking down. It

722
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,410
just It looks terrible. His
voice is so utterly weak and

723
00:42:25,410 --> 00:42:25,980
feeble.

724
00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:29,880
Adam Curry: This is that's how
every single news network should

725
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,020
have covered it. If certainly on
the left. That is truthful,

726
00:42:34,290 --> 00:42:35,820
John C Dvorak: I guess. Jews
Thank

727
00:42:35,820 --> 00:42:38,850
Adam Curry: you points to check
for that. I really do. It's like

728
00:42:38,850 --> 00:42:41,760
yeah, that's that's how
everybody should have reacted.

729
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:48,570
But who controls them that they
all went in on this? On this Oh,

730
00:42:48,570 --> 00:42:51,840
right. Straight to the
replacement replace Joe. It must

731
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,820
be big money. Because that's all
who they listened to. I mean,

732
00:42:56,820 --> 00:42:59,730
there's some people saying well,
you know, it's got to be Obama I

733
00:42:59,730 --> 00:43:02,190
don't I don't think so. I don't
think I don't think Obama is

734
00:43:02,190 --> 00:43:04,890
running anything either. People
behind him might be

735
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,090
John C Dvorak: this Seymour
Hersh name some names that he

736
00:43:09,090 --> 00:43:12,090
thinks was running the country.
I don't have the names in front

737
00:43:12,090 --> 00:43:14,460
of me. I do have a couple more
clips along these lines is

738
00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:21,180
analysis clips. I want to play
Katy Tur. I'm sorry, I gotta I

739
00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:24,720
gotta take up unit laws in
junior laws and stat Katie turd

740
00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:29,910
is by the way they show a lot of
these people they are so sad

741
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:33,240
looking. I mean, Rachel Maddow
look, so she's back into her

742
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,580
crying face. She does not look
good. She

743
00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:38,820
Adam Curry: wasn't that way last
year on trade show last night

744
00:43:39,090 --> 00:43:43,770
was completely had completely
restored herself. She was making

745
00:43:43,770 --> 00:43:47,610
fun of Trump. She was talking
about Trump being fat, you know,

746
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:53,190
as liar orange makeup. She
completely redeemed herself. Oh,

747
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:56,370
John C Dvorak: well, good for
her. But Katy Tur This is she

748
00:43:56,370 --> 00:44:00,630
goes on about the lies. I mean,
this is like his script. And

749
00:44:00,630 --> 00:44:03,180
it's almost the same talking
points. Everybody has Here we

750
00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:03,480
go.

751
00:44:03,690 --> 00:44:05,760
Unknown: That's the devil a plot
to save America from Trump and

752
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,330
Democrats from themselves. Rick
Wilson. So Donald Trump last

753
00:44:09,330 --> 00:44:12,090
night lied a whole lot. At one
point he talked about how

754
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:16,530
Democrats want to abort babies
outside of the womb that the

755
00:44:16,530 --> 00:44:18,870
baby is delivered and the doctor
puts it aside and says we'll

756
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:21,000
figure out what to do with this
baby later. That's called

757
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,110
Murder. That doesn't happen.
Keep up but he got away with all

758
00:44:25,110 --> 00:44:27,630
of that. He got away with lying
and lying and lying and lying.

759
00:44:27,630 --> 00:44:30,450
The moderators didn't fact check
him. They fact check him they

760
00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:33,180
said they were not going to Joe
Biden didn't fact check them

761
00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:33,570
either.

762
00:44:34,740 --> 00:44:39,060
Well look at I mean, Joe Biden
can have a bad night. But Donald

763
00:44:39,060 --> 00:44:44,130
Trump every single day of his
life is a fraud, a con man, a

764
00:44:44,130 --> 00:44:48,780
pathological liar, a sexual
assaulter and a felon. And so,

765
00:44:48,810 --> 00:44:51,360
you know, when you saw Donald
Trump, you know, within the

766
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,100
first few minutes of the
bailouts that he realized he

767
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:56,760
wasn't going to get checked on
any of the crazy stories. So as

768
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,640
the debate progressed, he got
more and more and more and more

769
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,540
mana. Think about his lies and
more and more like sort of Tommy

770
00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:07,020
Flanagan, you know, that's the
ticket. Yeah. The whole thing

771
00:45:07,020 --> 00:45:09,960
when we just ramped up because
he knew he was getting away with

772
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,220
lying on the set.

773
00:45:12,809 --> 00:45:15,299
But he was able to get away with
it. And he was able to pitch

774
00:45:15,299 --> 00:45:20,039
himself as something he is not
to 49 million Americans who were

775
00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:22,289
watching about the numbers we
think that's going to fall on.

776
00:45:22,499 --> 00:45:26,159
He was able to say that January
6, wasn't a big deal that he he

777
00:45:26,159 --> 00:45:29,729
offered Nancy Pelosi troops and
she said no to it. I mean, he

778
00:45:29,729 --> 00:45:33,329
was able to get away with so
much last night because there

779
00:45:33,329 --> 00:45:37,469
wasn't a fact check. There
wasn't effective push back. Does

780
00:45:37,469 --> 00:45:38,519
that affect the election

781
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:40,950
Adam Curry: now? Okay, so this,
this to me is very obvious,

782
00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:43,470
because she mentioned the
numbers, and I don't know if

783
00:45:43,470 --> 00:45:46,590
that was aggregate all of CNN or
if it was everything all put

784
00:45:46,590 --> 00:45:47,940
together? I'm not quite sure.

785
00:45:48,570 --> 00:45:51,120
John C Dvorak: That's that 49
million is supposed to be

786
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,200
aggregate? No. Okay,

787
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,440
Adam Curry: that would make more
sense. We're going to be

788
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:59,940
inundated with this type of
analysis. For the next weeks for

789
00:45:59,940 --> 00:46:03,270
sure. Maybe months, because this
is theirs. Let me let me finish

790
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:08,160
my thought. The reason is the
cable news networks finally,

791
00:46:08,190 --> 00:46:12,990
finally, praise God or in their
case, praise Allah. We have

792
00:46:12,990 --> 00:46:17,370
ratings. This is going to suck
everybody in now. Oh, let's keep

793
00:46:17,370 --> 00:46:19,860
talking about this forever ad
nauseam.

794
00:46:20,340 --> 00:46:23,100
John C Dvorak: The problem I
have with it is the gaslighting.

795
00:46:23,850 --> 00:46:29,580
Well, they do. The clips of that
of the Virginia governor that we

796
00:46:29,580 --> 00:46:33,120
have talking about pulling the
baby out and setting it aside.

797
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,990
We have those cars on the net.
Let me see. Do we you can hear

798
00:46:36,990 --> 00:46:39,840
him say it. And that's what
Trump was referencing. Yeah, it

799
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,400
is called an infanticide. And it
is illegal, but that's what he

800
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,730
discussed. And that's what they
said, you know, and Trump just

801
00:46:47,730 --> 00:46:50,070
extrapolates that, if that's
what you know, he's discussing

802
00:46:50,070 --> 00:46:54,030
it as seriously. That's what
they want to do. That's not a

803
00:46:54,030 --> 00:46:59,520
lie. And then the January 6, the
level of importance of January

804
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,930
6, is not a lie. It's just an
opinion. So you can't take

805
00:47:03,930 --> 00:47:06,180
opinions and just call
everything a lie. And then you

806
00:47:06,180 --> 00:47:10,320
had this is Rick Wilson here,
the Lincoln project guide and

807
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,670
Katy tours, just going off
gaslighting the public.

808
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,360
Adam Curry: Well, like they've
done anything different. No,

809
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,180
John C Dvorak: but it's just as
it's at some point, you think

810
00:47:21,180 --> 00:47:24,600
that they'd stopped helping? No,
no,

811
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:27,810
Adam Curry: no, this is their
job. Now their job is, but hey,

812
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,720
this is great guys. We got
ratings. We got people watching

813
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:34,380
us again, we gotta keep talking
about how that wasn't true. And

814
00:47:34,380 --> 00:47:38,880
it's a lie. And he's horrible.
That's their job. That's their

815
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,060
only job. I think they were
thrown a bit for a loop because

816
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:45,570
they did not know that Joe was
not going to be State of the

817
00:47:45,570 --> 00:47:48,540
Union jacked up, Joe that they
did. None of them knew that.

818
00:47:49,020 --> 00:47:52,380
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
obvious. Yeah. They were just

819
00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:54,120
scrambling. And

820
00:47:54,510 --> 00:47:57,480
Adam Curry: by the the more I
think about it, ma'am.

821
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:02,610
John C Dvorak: Yeah. But he will
they

822
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:07,140
Adam Curry: is, this really is
to get Trump in and Trump is

823
00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:10,770
going to build up the ix you
know, if you really follow the

824
00:48:10,770 --> 00:48:14,430
logic, and they want Trump they
want Trump in because the

825
00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:16,920
economy is something has to
happen is gonna happen in the

826
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,780
next six months. It's it's kind
of I think it might be obvious

827
00:48:21,780 --> 00:48:24,690
now you and Andrew would know
better, but it seems like this

828
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:27,960
we're on kind of shaky, shaky
ground here with this phenomenal

829
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:33,780
stock market. Something is not
going to go well. The war

830
00:48:33,780 --> 00:48:38,640
machine is also it's not it's
not great. Now stirring it up

831
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,130
with Iran. That would be great.
There's a new guy coming in who

832
00:48:41,130 --> 00:48:45,180
knows who's behind that guy. You
know, they want war. Maybe we

833
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:48,900
can get China to do something
with the with Taiwan, and then

834
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:52,230
Trump will build ships and
submarines. That seems the most

835
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:55,620
logical to me. And by the way,
Trump didn't look at all

836
00:48:55,620 --> 00:49:02,100
surprised at Joe. He wasn't like
Holy moly. This guy's toast.

837
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,720
Really only mentioned it once
about a third of the way through

838
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,690
like I don't think he knew what
he said. But even goes a good

839
00:49:09,690 --> 00:49:13,350
line. It was but I was watching
his expressions. He didn't look

840
00:49:13,350 --> 00:49:17,490
like oh, man, this is a shoo in
for me. I'm gonna slam dunk this

841
00:49:17,490 --> 00:49:21,720
none of that. i Everyone was
surprised. But Trump, let's put

842
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:24,840
it that way. Would you say
that's a fair assessment?

843
00:49:25,410 --> 00:49:30,060
John C Dvorak: I could see that
being an assessment of a fair he

844
00:49:30,060 --> 00:49:33,300
had a quizzical look on his face
a lot of the times but you're

845
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:36,600
right he didn't he wasn't
jumping for joy noticing that

846
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,810
Biden was just a complete screw
up on the debate.

847
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,920
Adam Curry: So you know I have
another

848
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,460
John C Dvorak: analysis short
clip from Cuomo. I think up all

849
00:49:47,460 --> 00:49:48,210
the screw with

850
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:51,360
Adam Curry: the quit the Cuomo
can or the old Andrew the caddy

851
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,660
John C Dvorak: corner the kid
Alright, the kid is Deb Anil

852
00:49:54,690 --> 00:49:57,840
Konak Coca Cola Cuomo, frankly,

853
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,290
Unknown: former President Trump
who had a great Rate night, even

854
00:50:01,290 --> 00:50:05,250
though he lied all the way
through unchecked. But that's

855
00:50:05,250 --> 00:50:08,610
the benefit of him having worked
the refs. He got what he wanted.

856
00:50:08,910 --> 00:50:10,410
They laid back. Wow,

857
00:50:10,410 --> 00:50:14,310
Adam Curry: Cuomo. That's a news
nation.

858
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,470
John C Dvorak: Yeah, news
nation, news nation and scripts

859
00:50:19,470 --> 00:50:22,770
which a lot of people can get an
over the air. We're all in the

860
00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:26,760
bag for Biden interested and
they didn't like what they saw.

861
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,180
Adam Curry: I have. Okay, screwy
clips, except

862
00:50:30,180 --> 00:50:36,060
John C Dvorak: for Fox and one
America news. Which is I don't

863
00:50:36,060 --> 00:50:39,690
know what the hell's wrong with
those guys because one American

864
00:50:39,690 --> 00:50:42,780
news has been playing it for the
last I'd say two or three months

865
00:50:42,780 --> 00:50:46,890
they've been playing news that's
a week old. It's all offset by

866
00:50:46,890 --> 00:50:52,020
about a week or two. Yeah, over
the air. And it's like, what do

867
00:50:52,020 --> 00:50:55,890
you what do you guys up to with
this old news I stopped doing

868
00:50:55,890 --> 00:50:59,520
shows it what's going on. But
one American News and Fox are

869
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,750
the only ones that actually kind
of, you know, mocked Biden,

870
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,700
everybody else is more serious
about their lies, lies

871
00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:11,820
Adam Curry: and that's their
job. Their job is to mock Biden.

872
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:15,660
And the lies is the job of the
gas lighters on the other side.

873
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,380
The more I think through this,
the more it makes sense. Let's

874
00:51:19,380 --> 00:51:25,710
have Trump and let's just have
years of of lies and injecting

875
00:51:25,710 --> 00:51:29,520
bleach and very fine people. And
let's keep the American public

876
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,840
completely distracted and
preoccupied and consumed. And

877
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,390
let's have half the country
salute the flag. The other half

878
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:42,960
say the racist, this seems more
like the agenda than anything

879
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:49,470
else. It's so much more
beneficial. Well, it is for the

880
00:51:49,470 --> 00:51:53,160
media, for the media for rich
people for the people who own

881
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,680
the country rich and the
shipbuilders and the

882
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,170
shipbuilding, the military
industrial complex, you know,

883
00:51:58,170 --> 00:52:01,260
rubbing their hands on Trump
he's coming in, it'll be great

884
00:52:01,290 --> 00:52:04,950
because of course, he's going to
get everyone in NATO, especially

885
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:12,330
with Margarita. The I guess they
do call them Teflon mark. Or

886
00:52:12,330 --> 00:52:14,640
Dutch well, they call them teh
fall Mark I didn't know that

887
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:20,310
they Fall to Fall is Teflon in
in Dutch. Everyone will pony up

888
00:52:20,310 --> 00:52:23,730
it will take all the European
money, take all of our tax money

889
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,340
build up its ships and
submarines are expensive. It's

890
00:52:26,340 --> 00:52:29,520
much better than then, you know,
individual bullets and bombs to

891
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,570
build something big for the for
the pivot to the South Pacific,

892
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:39,240
Asia Pacific. Here's a chi risk
dollar and Kimberly Adams there

893
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:43,350
from marketplace, the NPR show,
which is owned by American

894
00:52:43,350 --> 00:52:46,620
Public Media. They have a
podcast together who called Make

895
00:52:46,620 --> 00:52:49,170
me smart. Well Does anything but

896
00:52:49,530 --> 00:52:53,970
Unknown: for let's see, when was
2015, nine years ago, for nine

897
00:52:53,970 --> 00:52:57,510
years, never Trumpers and some
of the Democratic Party have

898
00:52:57,510 --> 00:53:00,900
been saying to Republicans who
support Trump. Open your eyes.

899
00:53:01,110 --> 00:53:04,830
How do you deny what you see
that he is completely unfit? And

900
00:53:04,830 --> 00:53:09,210
it's really challenging now, for
Democrats to say, Oh, you didn't

901
00:53:09,210 --> 00:53:10,440
see what you saw last night?

902
00:53:11,010 --> 00:53:11,550
You know,

903
00:53:11,730 --> 00:53:14,730
there's there's a logical
inconsistency that becomes for

904
00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:16,890
the Democrats, I think, a
problem.

905
00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:25,140
You know, what I was thinking
about last night is for all we

906
00:53:25,140 --> 00:53:29,910
know, Biden could have been up
the previous evening, working

907
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:34,050
through some sort of top secret
classified national security

908
00:53:34,050 --> 00:53:40,470
better, you know, and that, you
know, could be one of the

909
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:43,500
reasons like not trying to make
excuses or anything like that.

910
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:45,630
But there's so much we don't
know about what happens behind

911
00:53:45,630 --> 00:53:48,870
the scenes in these situations.
But that's part of the job.

912
00:53:49,410 --> 00:53:51,240
Adam Curry: We have Biden in
poor performance, because he was

913
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:55,920
up all night working on top
secret documents. Please.

914
00:53:56,430 --> 00:54:01,650
John C Dvorak: That's a good
one. You're better. Why I have a

915
00:54:01,650 --> 00:54:05,730
kind of a funny clip. Matt
gates, everybody. You know, they

916
00:54:05,730 --> 00:54:08,760
said, Oh, that Vice President
candidate for Trump's gonna be

917
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:15,330
at the debate. Well, everybody
was at the debate. So Matt Gaetz

918
00:54:15,330 --> 00:54:20,100
came on late on Hannity show.
And Matt Gaetz was kind of a

919
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:24,990
dick. But he, he had a one liner
in here that and everybody

920
00:54:24,990 --> 00:54:27,900
jumped on him. He was with
Stephen Miller and Hannity

921
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:31,680
talking about some aspects of
the debate. And about Lindsey

922
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:37,710
Graham and gates just through
this kind of Sucker Punch ed at

923
00:54:37,830 --> 00:54:41,250
what Graham wasn't there, but it
was just this comment that they

924
00:54:41,250 --> 00:54:45,540
both jumped on him for because
he was going he was he was

925
00:54:45,540 --> 00:54:50,280
coloring outside the lines with
this combo. Oh, no. And so they

926
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:55,380
both gave him kind of jocular
nudges not to do that again, and

927
00:54:55,380 --> 00:54:59,970
I just thought it was hilarious.
This is the DEB Annie. Matt gay

928
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,790
This clip, Lindsey Graham said
he doesn't want Donald Trump to

929
00:55:02,790 --> 00:55:07,080
debate Biden again because he
doesn't want the world to watch

930
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:07,650
that again.

931
00:55:09,540 --> 00:55:14,310
Unknown: That's the first war
Lindsey Graham's against. It

932
00:55:14,310 --> 00:55:16,320
can't help yourself. I know
albums off, right.

933
00:55:17,460 --> 00:55:20,040
Adam Curry: Okay, gates, you're
right. Kind of

934
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,240
John C Dvorak: douchey first
wore Lindsey Graham's against us

935
00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:26,940
Adam Curry: this funny. It's
interesting. It is funny, but

936
00:55:26,940 --> 00:55:27,750
John C Dvorak: he is a dick.

937
00:55:27,780 --> 00:55:30,150
Adam Curry: I have a I have a
couple of clips that are not

938
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:35,760
long. CNN post debate just so we
can get a little take from

939
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,490
everybody. This is right after
the bait. You want to hear

940
00:55:38,490 --> 00:55:42,690
those? Got a couple other. So
here's John King. He's kind of

941
00:55:42,690 --> 00:55:46,440
the the elder statesman. I think
he's his former spook as well.

942
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:48,000
John King.

943
00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:51,270
John C Dvorak: He's the guys
always going up against the map

944
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:53,430
and showing you trends. And

945
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:55,560
Adam Curry: he should be he has
the look, he's got a good spook,

946
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,510
look on him. Here we go. This

947
00:55:57,540 --> 00:56:00,120
Unknown: was a game changing
debate in the sense that right

948
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,720
now as we speak, there is a
deep, a wide and a very

949
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:06,630
aggressive panic in the
Democratic Party. It started

950
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:10,080
minutes into the debate, and it
continues right now. It involves

951
00:56:10,110 --> 00:56:13,230
party strategists and involves
elected officials. It involves

952
00:56:13,230 --> 00:56:15,900
fundraisers, and they're having
conversations about the

953
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:18,720
President's performance, which
they think was dismal, which

954
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:20,970
they think will hurt other
people down the party in the

955
00:56:20,970 --> 00:56:23,190
ticket. And they're having
conversations about what they

956
00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:25,650
should do about it. Some of
those conversations include

957
00:56:25,650 --> 00:56:27,720
Should we go to the White House
and ask the president to step

958
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:31,260
aside? Others are other the
conversations are about should

959
00:56:31,260 --> 00:56:34,860
prominent Democrats go public
with that call? Because they

960
00:56:34,860 --> 00:56:38,550
feel this debate was so
terrible. They do say and

961
00:56:38,550 --> 00:56:41,160
moments in the debate Later, the
President got better and got his

962
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,590
footing. But then at the end,
even his closing statement was a

963
00:56:43,590 --> 00:56:46,500
little halting the contrast
between the two candidates, let

964
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:49,560
me be clear, none of them and a
lot of Republicans don't think

965
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,780
Donald Trump had a great night,
Donald Trump broke the fact

966
00:56:51,780 --> 00:56:54,480
check machine more than I can
count tonight. That will be on

967
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,330
the record as we go forward. He
refused to answer some very

968
00:56:57,330 --> 00:57:00,030
specific indirect questions
about his conduct about January

969
00:57:00,030 --> 00:57:01,920
6, and went all out. Okay, blah,
blah, blah.

970
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,400
John C Dvorak: Van, by the way,
Trump did dodge a couple of

971
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,200
questions, but he did it. Well,

972
00:57:07,230 --> 00:57:10,200
Adam Curry: that's what you do
in a debate. Yeah. Course. I

973
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,290
literally literally heard
podcasts people saying, Joe, you

974
00:57:13,290 --> 00:57:15,660
should have just learned your
lines and never answered the

975
00:57:15,660 --> 00:57:16,260
question.

976
00:57:17,970 --> 00:57:22,800
John C Dvorak: Which we should
take a short stoppage here and

977
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,990
discuss the possibility even
though you say because of having

978
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:35,970
an earwig. Now, Biden having a
listening device. Now we've had

979
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,310
a bunch of people write us and
then there was some there was a

980
00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:41,010
part in the debate where you
could hear something and you I

981
00:57:41,010 --> 00:57:44,220
think, had the right answer to
that, which was that it was the

982
00:57:44,220 --> 00:57:46,170
I F B of the hosts or

983
00:57:46,170 --> 00:57:48,540
Adam Curry: or even a camera
person who had it up too loud.

984
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:49,770
Yeah, it could be.

985
00:57:50,310 --> 00:57:53,340
John C Dvorak: But there are
some clips of Biden holding

986
00:57:53,340 --> 00:57:56,670
pushing against his ear because
he wanted to hear better. And

987
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,840
most of the time he was looking
away from Trump. And he had that

988
00:58:00,870 --> 00:58:05,550
gap. Look, it's like he was
listening to something. He had a

989
00:58:05,550 --> 00:58:08,520
look that he was, and I think
this accounted for a lot of

990
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,720
who's looking like he was out of
it. He wasn't engaged with what

991
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,690
Trump had to say because he
wasn't listening to Trump. I

992
00:58:15,690 --> 00:58:18,330
believe he was listening to
somebody in his ear.

993
00:58:19,020 --> 00:58:21,180
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
Yeah. Well, I

994
00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:23,370
John C Dvorak: do think so. And
I think so because based on the

995
00:58:23,370 --> 00:58:28,380
fact that he would look away and
look down and have like, he was

996
00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:31,410
listening like he was listening
to somebody trying to tell him I

997
00:58:31,410 --> 00:58:31,590
will

998
00:58:31,590 --> 00:58:33,540
Adam Curry: tell you this. I
know I'm very familiar with the

999
00:58:33,540 --> 00:58:37,530
technology. I had it myself. You
would if he had an ear weakened

1000
00:58:37,530 --> 00:58:41,400
you would never hear it on any
mic his or anybody? No, I'm

1001
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,650
John C Dvorak: no I agree with
you about that. About the mic

1002
00:58:43,650 --> 00:58:48,090
being heard. I'm talking about
his the way he acted. Yeah,

1003
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,120
that's possible as well. It
didn't was like LISI was

1004
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:56,850
listening to somebody other than
Trump. Man, he was looking away,

1005
00:58:56,850 --> 00:58:58,230
he was looking down, look

1006
00:58:58,230 --> 00:59:01,170
Adam Curry: at the big picture.
I'm really I'm starting to form

1007
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:06,600
my opinion now. Just look at the
country. If Trump loses this

1008
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:11,160
election, you have a very good
possibility that we just have a

1009
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,730
lot of disorder. Would you say
that's fair?

1010
00:59:16,590 --> 00:59:18,120
John C Dvorak: Well, I think
there's disorder now but

1011
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:20,490
Adam Curry: but I mean, like,
like, like blood on the moon

1012
00:59:20,490 --> 00:59:21,090
disorder.

1013
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,380
John C Dvorak: I don't know. The
public is pretty flexible.

1014
00:59:27,450 --> 00:59:29,400
Adam Curry: It's much better to
strive to do, I

1015
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,150
John C Dvorak: will say this,
the public might be skittish

1016
00:59:33,150 --> 00:59:36,450
about the fact if Biden could
win this election. There's

1017
00:59:36,450 --> 00:59:37,380
something wrong.

1018
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,830
Adam Curry: Well, something
wrong or and I'm going to come

1019
00:59:40,830 --> 00:59:44,190
back to it. Maybe we just have a
couple of events, a couple of

1020
00:59:44,190 --> 00:59:47,370
things where people think you
know, I really don't want this

1021
00:59:47,370 --> 00:59:51,030
guy being the commander in chief
because he seems kind of out of

1022
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:55,230
it. I don't want his hand on the
button. I don't want him to be

1023
00:59:55,230 --> 00:59:58,110
making the calls. We really
don't want world war three.

1024
00:59:58,110 --> 01:00:01,740
There's a lot of that talk Trump
even brought Get up. This may or

1025
01:00:01,770 --> 01:00:05,400
may remember the people with the
money, they don't care. They

1026
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,700
don't care if it's blue or red
who wins. They really don't

1027
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:12,210
care. We're the schmucks who
care. But oh, we want this guy.

1028
01:00:12,210 --> 01:00:16,440
We want that guy. Red team red
tie, blue tie. They just want a

1029
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,460
guy in who's going to keep the
money flowing $900 billion a

1030
01:00:20,460 --> 01:00:23,250
year. Let's up that a little
bit. Can we make it to one trill

1031
01:00:23,250 --> 01:00:27,930
for sure. And maybe 1.5 would be
high fives at one trill? Yes.

1032
01:00:27,930 --> 01:00:32,730
And then a couple a couple more
skirmishes something with Iran,

1033
01:00:32,730 --> 01:00:36,240
set it up with China, keep that
going, will keep us relatively

1034
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,480
safe. But you want everybody on
board with that. Like, you know,

1035
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,590
I'd much rather you know, I it's
really a problem. But okay, he

1036
01:00:43,590 --> 01:00:47,130
lies we keep talking about that.
But that that guy would probably

1037
01:00:47,130 --> 01:00:49,440
be better. In fact, the
narrative is kind of who's

1038
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,660
running the country? What's
going to happen because this

1039
01:00:51,660 --> 01:00:54,840
Unknown: conversation about hey,
listen, first of all, this was

1040
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,760
not a good interview, she
couldn't answer a simple

1041
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,820
question about what Joe Biden
like on a day to day basis,

1042
01:00:59,850 --> 01:01:03,030
because this is about Kamala, I
think the honest answer is not

1043
01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:06,690
acceptable. That's number one.
Number two, listen to what

1044
01:01:06,690 --> 01:01:10,650
you're saying. The press, the
sitting President of the United

1045
01:01:10,650 --> 01:01:14,310
States, is so out of it and
infirm, that you're now turning

1046
01:01:14,670 --> 01:01:18,030
to the Vice Prez the United
States to carry your ticket in

1047
01:01:18,030 --> 01:01:21,450
your party when they are
currently in office, supposedly

1048
01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:26,430
running the country. Yeah, this
is this is a scandal. The White

1049
01:01:26,430 --> 01:01:29,400
House press secretary this last
few days have been telling us

1050
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,130
Oh, the videos you've seen of
Joe Biden aren't real. They're

1051
01:01:32,130 --> 01:01:35,730
fakes. The US government right
now has a president and none of

1052
01:01:35,730 --> 01:01:38,730
us are quite sure what goes on
on a day to day basis, and

1053
01:01:38,730 --> 01:01:41,460
you're putting all your hopes
and dreams into the VP. Okay,

1054
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,790
that's not that is not true. As
somebody who left that White

1055
01:01:44,790 --> 01:01:47,520
House about a year and a half
ago, I can tell you're a hand I

1056
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,060
can tell you that he is he is
somebody who is very direct in

1057
01:01:51,060 --> 01:01:55,200
meetings behind closed but he is
great. He's well, you know, he

1058
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,970
had a bad night tonight on the
debate stage.

1059
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,840
I'm not disputing that. But I
can tell you he is he drives the

1060
01:02:00,870 --> 01:02:03,210
drives the ship and the White
House is the person who makes

1061
01:02:03,210 --> 01:02:05,670
the decisions. He you sit in
meetings with him. He's asking

1062
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:08,790
you for details. He's always
asking you for the dang thing.

1063
01:02:08,790 --> 01:02:11,370
You don't have not for nothing.
And and

1064
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,230
Adam Curry: so that's Kate
Bedingfield. She's talking to

1065
01:02:13,230 --> 01:02:17,790
Scott Jennings, who was the only
conservative pundit on on CNN,

1066
01:02:17,790 --> 01:02:21,210
and in this particular instance,
I think that's kind of where

1067
01:02:21,210 --> 01:02:25,500
we're gonna see it go. Like,
hey, you know, the lesser of two

1068
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:28,410
evils who do you know, hey,
Trump didn't have a war when he

1069
01:02:28,410 --> 01:02:33,150
was president? It seems like
that's the direction I just, I

1070
01:02:33,150 --> 01:02:37,230
can't help but think and I'm
pretty sure Trump is in on it.

1071
01:02:39,090 --> 01:02:41,520
All the evidence is at least the
it's circumstantial, but the

1072
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,400
evidence is here. He No, he
didn't. He didn't. He was like,

1073
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:52,890
okay, Joe, no good. Got it. He's
raising his money. Now, all the

1074
01:02:52,890 --> 01:02:56,340
lawsuits are falling apart all
just in time, like really just

1075
01:02:56,340 --> 01:03:01,680
in time. And the news media can
have a bonanza and just let let

1076
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,230
them loose. Let them keep
talking about the line. And then

1077
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:08,700
when some event happens,
something with China something

1078
01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:12,060
with Iran, then people people
will come together again, we

1079
01:03:12,060 --> 01:03:14,460
don't want that guy will have
this guy and Jill, we'll keep

1080
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:17,160
we'll keep Biden in the race.
You can do with Joe, you can

1081
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,800
answer all the questions. Come
on, Joe. Don't give it up.

1082
01:03:19,830 --> 01:03:22,590
Because he truly no one can kick
him out other than a 25th

1083
01:03:22,590 --> 01:03:24,990
amendment. And I don't see that
happening. No,

1084
01:03:24,990 --> 01:03:26,550
John C Dvorak: not at this point
when he already has the

1085
01:03:26,550 --> 01:03:30,750
delegates. Right. The primaries
are over. Joe has enough

1086
01:03:30,750 --> 01:03:33,330
delegates to get the nomination.
If he wants it. They can't do

1087
01:03:33,330 --> 01:03:35,940
anything about it. There's not
enough super delegates and super

1088
01:03:35,940 --> 01:03:39,090
delegates at the Democratic
conventions. Don't vote until

1089
01:03:39,090 --> 01:03:43,650
the second round, but there'll
be no second round. No. So yes,

1090
01:03:43,650 --> 01:03:46,980
if if Biden wants to stay there,
and he does, he

1091
01:03:46,980 --> 01:03:50,790
Unknown: does he does I suggest
arrogant, arrogant, yet

1092
01:03:50,790 --> 01:03:53,070
John C Dvorak: a bedroom on this
thing. Give me a break. Why

1093
01:03:53,070 --> 01:03:55,950
would you not want to do that?
So

1094
01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:58,440
Adam Curry: and you know, as
long as people keep watching

1095
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,400
cable news, and they'll keep
getting sucked into the oh, he

1096
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,570
lies Oh, Joe's an idiot, oh,
Joe's toast, and they'll just

1097
01:04:06,570 --> 01:04:08,610
kind of forget the overall
picture of what's really

1098
01:04:08,610 --> 01:04:12,420
happening. Namely, we're being
robbed of our own of our money.

1099
01:04:12,570 --> 01:04:16,410
We're being robbed of our money.
If it's not through taxation

1100
01:04:16,410 --> 01:04:19,230
overall, if it's not through
taxation, then it's through

1101
01:04:19,230 --> 01:04:22,230
inflation by printing money to
build ships and submarines,

1102
01:04:22,350 --> 01:04:26,130
ships and subs. I can already
write the slogan. Big beautiful

1103
01:04:26,130 --> 01:04:26,430
ship.

1104
01:04:26,460 --> 01:04:30,930
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna
argue that No, I agree. Good

1105
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,360
idea. A couple of screwball
clips I want to play that are

1106
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,550
off the wall. And this is part
of a long clip is actually too

1107
01:04:38,550 --> 01:04:41,670
long because it'll get to the
point. This is a body language

1108
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:46,830
woman who came on and gave a
discussion of the debate. But

1109
01:04:46,830 --> 01:04:50,400
she brought something up that I
until I heard it and I talked to

1110
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:55,290
me about it. It was like it is
possible that Joe was Botox to

1111
01:04:55,290 --> 01:04:55,770
up

1112
01:04:56,250 --> 01:05:00,330
Adam Curry: oh, he's What do you
mean he's filled with Botox? So,

1113
01:05:00,690 --> 01:05:03,300
John C Dvorak: let's listen to
this debate body language woman.

1114
01:05:05,879 --> 01:05:11,699
Adam Curry: Sorry, hold on a
second. Oh, here we go. It's

1115
01:05:11,729 --> 01:05:12,239
there's a lot

1116
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:18,240
Unknown: of de lis everything
was in slow motion, his fingers

1117
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:23,880
and his his lack of illustrators
when he was talking, he was like

1118
01:05:23,910 --> 01:05:29,760
a frozen statue up there up on
the stage. It really was painful

1119
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,630
to watch, because I think it was
the first time that I think they

1120
01:05:33,630 --> 01:05:38,880
saw Donald Trump even looking
over it. Mr. Vice President

1121
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,060
Biden, and and literally was
concerned. I mean, when he

1122
01:05:42,060 --> 01:05:46,170
tilted his head when he lost his
way, in the first question, he

1123
01:05:46,170 --> 01:05:49,530
looked over at him kind of
register that he was completely

1124
01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:55,320
lost. And they looked at him and
with with passion. I mean, it

1125
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,720
was like, I felt like he was
gonna run over and give the guy

1126
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,830
a hug, if you can. And then he
brought his head back. And then

1127
01:06:02,070 --> 01:06:05,070
he realized he was still off
base. And he, it looked over

1128
01:06:05,070 --> 01:06:08,400
again, he's like, Oh, my God,
you know, he's really has lost

1129
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:12,060
his space without going through
the entire debate, because there

1130
01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:14,850
was a lot going up. But there
was a lot of consistency. We

1131
01:06:14,850 --> 01:06:19,260
already know that President
Biden lack of an effect facial

1132
01:06:19,260 --> 01:06:24,450
expressions, partly because it's
I don't know who gave him this

1133
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,770
recommendation, but he was
really way too Botox doubt. And

1134
01:06:28,770 --> 01:06:31,920
that is a real problem one on
one, it can create some

1135
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,540
cognitive issues, because when
you shut down those emotions

1136
01:06:36,540 --> 01:06:42,150
through facial aspect, it can
affect your, the way you your

1137
01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:46,860
brain. So it's not that Botox in
itself affects its brain. But

1138
01:06:46,860 --> 01:06:52,110
when we are expressing emotions,
with muscles in our face, it

1139
01:06:52,110 --> 01:06:56,730
creates these emotions. Okay,
same thing as actors. When that

1140
01:06:56,730 --> 01:07:01,290
has been frozen in space. It's
hard to, to emote an expression.

1141
01:07:01,470 --> 01:07:04,800
The problem was you didn't see
any movement in his top of his

1142
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,550
forehead. Occasionally, you
would see these pinched eyebrows

1143
01:07:08,580 --> 01:07:12,150
only ever so slightly, because
he tried to force them. They're

1144
01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:14,760
trying to force him there when
he was angry. Yeah.

1145
01:07:14,790 --> 01:07:18,540
Adam Curry: Listen, my first
wife and my second wife had more

1146
01:07:18,540 --> 01:07:22,320
Botox than Joe Biden has ever
ever seen in his life. This is

1147
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:22,980
not true.

1148
01:07:24,090 --> 01:07:26,100
John C Dvorak: What's not true
Botox

1149
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:28,860
Adam Curry: and being Botox does
not affect you. We added

1150
01:07:29,250 --> 01:07:31,440
John C Dvorak: about six years
ago telling you

1151
01:07:32,460 --> 01:07:34,770
Adam Curry: I have standing
Yeah,

1152
01:07:34,770 --> 01:07:36,630
John C Dvorak: well, you do have
standing but I'm just gonna say

1153
01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:39,330
this clip from six years ago,
the studies have shown that if

1154
01:07:39,330 --> 01:07:44,910
you can't emote with your face,
your emotions fade out short no

1155
01:07:44,940 --> 01:07:45,390
sure.

1156
01:07:46,050 --> 01:07:47,730
Adam Curry: It one more thing
and then I want to play

1157
01:07:47,730 --> 01:07:52,290
something different. There is a
distinct possibility in this big

1158
01:07:52,290 --> 01:07:56,700
game. Remember, we're just the
audience. We're looking at a big

1159
01:07:56,700 --> 01:08:00,480
big game and for my money
everybody's in on it. It's also

1160
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,110
possible that Joe just said
especially looking at his

1161
01:08:04,110 --> 01:08:09,690
performance the next day don't
get me anything. And he may even

1162
01:08:09,690 --> 01:08:13,890
have have hammed it up a little
bit to make himself look even

1163
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,660
more out of it than usual.

1164
01:08:16,890 --> 01:08:22,650
John C Dvorak: Well, that brings
us back to the Vincent the chin

1165
01:08:22,650 --> 01:08:26,010
gigai Okay, you're exactly
you're cheering brought up years

1166
01:08:26,010 --> 01:08:29,820
ago and I still think it might
still be in play which is that

1167
01:08:29,820 --> 01:08:32,880
you know, you act like you don't
can't you don't have a clue. But

1168
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:37,020
the he is just he can't walk you
know, he's got to do well, the

1169
01:08:37,020 --> 01:08:39,210
Vincent the chin would also

1170
01:08:40,290 --> 01:08:43,740
Adam Curry: think about it,
John. We also do that the whole

1171
01:08:43,740 --> 01:08:46,860
cheap fakes and what happened
made the Democrats, the

1172
01:08:46,860 --> 01:08:50,160
Democrats, the Biden voters, the
Trump haters, the Never Trump

1173
01:08:50,190 --> 01:08:53,850
everyone, except the people who
want Trump president made them

1174
01:08:53,850 --> 01:08:58,560
all realize Joe has a problem.
So that's it. That's all the

1175
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,070
work is done. Now we just need
to keep them there convinced

1176
01:09:02,070 --> 01:09:04,830
them I don't think they want the
power. The Democrats or the

1177
01:09:04,830 --> 01:09:09,090
Democrat party may want it but
they're low level they're low

1178
01:09:09,090 --> 01:09:12,750
level they're not important in
the big game ultimately. nor

1179
01:09:12,750 --> 01:09:15,270
other nor the Republican the
Republic, they're not important.

1180
01:09:16,110 --> 01:09:19,290
If we really if we really had
elections, and it really was the

1181
01:09:19,290 --> 01:09:21,870
We the People, it would be a
different story, but it's not

1182
01:09:21,870 --> 01:09:27,210
that way. This is a game. This
is a game to get us get everyone

1183
01:09:27,210 --> 01:09:29,520
to at least buy into Trump
because he's better than the

1184
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,780
brain dead guy. And Jill's job
is to keep Joe motivated to keep

1185
01:09:33,780 --> 01:09:37,230
going. And you know, hey, we're
gonna we're gonna fade off into

1186
01:09:37,230 --> 01:09:41,910
the sunset. And when Trump
becomes president again, Joe's

1187
01:09:41,910 --> 01:09:51,240
not going to jail. There'll be
just fine. That's the I think

1188
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:57,360
that's now my official take on
all this. No switcheroo. No

1189
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,260
alternate candidate, but we'll
be talking about Big Mike and

1190
01:10:01,260 --> 01:10:06,480
Kamala, and, and Gavin Newsom
and Gretchen, which written

1191
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:09,180
where we'll be talking about for
the least the next seven months,

1192
01:10:09,180 --> 01:10:14,670
then we'll go through horrendous
Democratic Convention Democrat

1193
01:10:14,670 --> 01:10:17,700
convention in Chicago. That'll
be the new side, and then we'll

1194
01:10:17,700 --> 01:10:22,800
go into vote. And they may not
even be the only maybe even only

1195
01:10:22,830 --> 01:10:25,050
the only people who will try to
rig it will be the Republicans

1196
01:10:25,050 --> 01:10:30,030
this time. Trump is in. He's in
and he's going to build big

1197
01:10:30,030 --> 01:10:33,870
ships, and fast submarines and
bases

1198
01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:35,700
John C Dvorak: plus the fastest
ever basis.

1199
01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:38,850
Adam Curry: The biggest shift
big beautiful ships, fast

1200
01:10:38,850 --> 01:10:43,290
submarines. And yeah, and then
we'll we'll still be a divided

1201
01:10:43,290 --> 01:10:47,820
country after that the way they
want us the way they want us

1202
01:10:47,850 --> 01:10:52,080
divided. It's no good if we're
all one if we all agree, it's no

1203
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:58,740
good. RFK Jr, held what he
called the real debate. Did you

1204
01:10:58,740 --> 01:11:04,170
see me himself? Well, if you're
gonna debate, it's, it was a

1205
01:11:04,170 --> 01:11:09,540
master Baden exercise. And I
have three clips, because of

1206
01:11:09,540 --> 01:11:12,510
course, he did say things that
made sense to a degree

1207
01:11:12,570 --> 01:11:17,430
Unknown: and is another example
of why this debate is a problem

1208
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:22,320
because these two men are the
people who ran up the deficit

1209
01:11:22,350 --> 01:11:26,550
that is causing the inflation.
President Trump came into office

1210
01:11:26,610 --> 01:11:30,480
promising to balance the budget.
Instead, he spent more money I

1211
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:33,450
don't office and every president
in United States history

1212
01:11:33,450 --> 01:11:37,920
combined from George Washington
to George W. Bush, 283 years of

1213
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:44,520
history, as an Biden is will
beat him he's already run up

1214
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,930
$6.3 trillion in debt. And by
the end my time leaves off his

1215
01:11:48,930 --> 01:11:51,900
hill of run up more than
President Trump. That's why we

1216
01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:57,420
have inflation. Inflation is is
cause because they're printing

1217
01:11:57,420 --> 01:12:01,950
money to pay for for these
expenses that we don't have. And

1218
01:12:01,950 --> 01:12:06,480
that money is then a tax on the
poor. That's why we have a 22%

1219
01:12:06,540 --> 01:12:10,680
higher than in home insurance.
That's why we afford our milk

1220
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:16,230
for I bred $6. Gasoline is
because of the Forever wars and

1221
01:12:16,230 --> 01:12:20,790
the out of control spending by
these two gentlemen. Even $34

1222
01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:26,310
trillion debt now. The interest
alone on that debt is costing us

1223
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:30,120
more than our military budget
was in five years. 50 cents,

1224
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,540
every dollar that we collect in
taxes will go to servicing the

1225
01:12:33,540 --> 01:12:37,170
debt within 10 years.
Entrepreneur said this is

1226
01:12:37,170 --> 01:12:39,090
existential. Yeah,

1227
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,090
Adam Curry: well, I think Trump
will do a refi of the country.

1228
01:12:42,210 --> 01:12:46,050
Now they've been we know that
there's some kind of monetary

1229
01:12:46,050 --> 01:12:51,990
reset underway. Some kind. We
actually have the bricks out

1230
01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:54,720
there as a threat that looks
like everybody wants to go to a

1231
01:12:54,720 --> 01:13:01,170
gold backed system. Again. If
Biden can't do that, Democrats

1232
01:13:01,170 --> 01:13:04,110
can do that. Trump could
probably do it you could bring

1233
01:13:04,110 --> 01:13:08,520
Unknown: enough and all across
the board. This is this is RFK

1234
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:12,030
Jr. on fentanyl, you could bring
enough and all across the border

1235
01:13:12,060 --> 01:13:17,550
in a briefcase to kill everybody
in Los Angeles. So the fentanyl

1236
01:13:17,550 --> 01:13:19,890
is going to come in this
country. The problem is

1237
01:13:19,890 --> 01:13:24,030
something much larger than that.
It's the it's the elites a

1238
01:13:24,030 --> 01:13:27,480
generation that is alienated,
that is dispersed as it is

1239
01:13:27,480 --> 01:13:32,730
depressed and suicidal, that is
disconnected from community. And

1240
01:13:32,730 --> 01:13:35,490
that's why they're turning to
drugs. And we need to deal with

1241
01:13:35,490 --> 01:13:39,810
that problem. And we need to
reduce demand and that my my

1242
01:13:39,810 --> 01:13:41,040
signature policy

1243
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:43,830
Adam Curry: now listen to this
because this is this is kind of

1244
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:44,340
creepy.

1245
01:13:45,930 --> 01:13:51,150
Unknown: Thank you is is to
begin taxing marijuana federally

1246
01:13:51,150 --> 01:13:55,380
by the DEA schedule it from
schedule one right where it is

1247
01:13:55,380 --> 01:13:57,690
now. The federal government is
not allowed to tax it. So

1248
01:13:57,690 --> 01:14:00,420
marijuana is legal in many
states, but the federal

1249
01:14:00,420 --> 01:14:04,500
government cannot collect taxes
on it. It's legal, it's not

1250
01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:07,140
going to whether you can tax it
or not. It's not going to affect

1251
01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:10,890
the number of people are using
it our mountains use. We're

1252
01:14:10,890 --> 01:14:13,260
going to D schedule it so the
government could start

1253
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:19,470
collecting taxes now we'll raise
$8.5 billion in revenue. I'm

1254
01:14:19,470 --> 01:14:23,850
going to dedicate that money to
building drug rehabilitation

1255
01:14:23,850 --> 01:14:29,160
farms, wellness farms,
restoration farms. Know in rural

1256
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:33,000
areas all over this country.
Americans go for free to deal

1257
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:37,890
with depression, suicidal
behavior, alcoholism, drug

1258
01:14:37,890 --> 01:14:42,090
addiction to illegal drugs, but
also addiction to SSRIs to

1259
01:14:42,090 --> 01:14:46,290
benzos Adderall we need to
reclaim our children. He's

1260
01:14:46,290 --> 01:14:51,000
Adam Curry: literally going to
build funny farms. That's that

1261
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:55,890
doesn't sound like a great idea.
And then here's this all of this

1262
01:14:55,890 --> 01:14:59,760
of course is not made for TV. No
one cares about this and people

1263
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,000
don't Want to hear this they
want to read red tie blue tie a

1264
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:03,300
real

1265
01:15:03,300 --> 01:15:06,450
Unknown: patriotism means
protect the United States

1266
01:15:06,450 --> 01:15:13,500
Constitution. And with a and
both of them subverted the right

1267
01:15:13,500 --> 01:15:18,870
to free speech what are the most
important right? As it Biden 37

1268
01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:21,630
hours after he took the oath of
office, this has never happened

1269
01:15:21,630 --> 01:15:27,540
in American history. He opened a
portal, the FBI, CIA, Siza, NIH,

1270
01:15:27,540 --> 01:15:34,020
D H. S, the IRS and other
agencies to go in and and tamper

1271
01:15:34,020 --> 01:15:37,290
with with social media sites to
take out things that were not

1272
01:15:37,290 --> 01:15:40,950
politically palatable. They
violated freedom of worship, the

1273
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:43,590
two of them are shutting down
every church in this country

1274
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:47,790
with no sides think citation. If
violated freedom of assembly

1275
01:15:47,790 --> 01:15:51,030
with mass regulations, they shut
down the Seventh Amendment right

1276
01:15:51,030 --> 01:15:53,910
to jury trials by saying you
couldn't sue somebody who was

1277
01:15:53,910 --> 01:15:56,670
involved in quote, COVID Cat
image no matter how negligent

1278
01:15:56,670 --> 01:15:59,070
that corporation where the
biggest corporations in the

1279
01:15:59,070 --> 01:16:02,280
world no matter how reckless
their behavior, no matter how

1280
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:06,600
grievous your injury, you could
not sue them and shut down 3.3

1281
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,840
million businesses with no due
process note just compensation

1282
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,050
and violation the Fifth
Amendment. It shuts down the

1283
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:16,620
Fourth Amendment's prohibition
against warrantless searches and

1284
01:16:16,620 --> 01:16:20,370
seizures with this track and
trace surveillance. That was the

1285
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,860
all out assault on the
constitution that we've never

1286
01:16:22,860 --> 01:16:27,420
seen the likes of that anytime
in American history. And I don't

1287
01:16:27,420 --> 01:16:30,180
believe they have the right to
wear those American flag pens.

1288
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:33,840
Adam Curry: Yeah, all right. I
totally agree. But no, Bobby, no

1289
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,500
one no one wants to hear that.
He also has the worst voice. I'm

1290
01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:40,230
sorry. You just that's just in
the doesn't and now that I think

1291
01:16:40,230 --> 01:16:45,030
about it, I'd like the guy seems
okay. But you can't have a

1292
01:16:45,030 --> 01:16:47,760
president with that voice. It's
just that doesn't work doesn't

1293
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,860
work. Doesn't work. That

1294
01:16:49,860 --> 01:16:51,900
John C Dvorak: was the idea when
they gave him that voice.

1295
01:16:53,010 --> 01:16:53,910
Unknown: You're horrible.

1296
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:02,460
Adam Curry: Well, we shall see.
But I I don't think we'll see.

1297
01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:07,680
Any real replacement happening.
We're just gonna have endless it

1298
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,830
does a lot for the controlled
opportunists. You know, the

1299
01:17:10,830 --> 01:17:15,120
Megyn Kelly's the Candace Owens.
Everyone can talk and talk and

1300
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:20,550
talk and talk. Now Tucker can
talk and talk and talk.

1301
01:17:20,940 --> 01:17:23,100
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's Did
you see a second speech that he

1302
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:24,030
gave in Australia

1303
01:17:24,060 --> 01:17:25,800
Adam Curry: was funny. Yeah, it

1304
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,740
John C Dvorak: was funny. It was
it was good. It was almost

1305
01:17:28,770 --> 01:17:31,320
borderland stand up with that
second speech.

1306
01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:32,040
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was good.

1307
01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:34,800
John C Dvorak: But what's he
doing there?

1308
01:17:35,610 --> 01:17:38,670
Adam Curry: But he's creating a
narrative he's creating. He

1309
01:17:38,670 --> 01:17:40,890
John C Dvorak: was originally we
thought he wanted to have an

1310
01:17:40,890 --> 01:17:44,280
interview with Assange. But
doesn't seem Why does he have to

1311
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:45,750
stay there for that gap? And

1312
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:52,740
Adam Curry: I think that Tucker
is is leading the alternative

1313
01:17:52,740 --> 01:17:58,050
media in a way. So everyone's
emboldened to speak, like he

1314
01:17:58,050 --> 01:18:01,410
speaks and says what he says,
and suck everybody in and we'll

1315
01:18:01,410 --> 01:18:04,620
all be preoccupied with it. But
I think people should do one

1316
01:18:04,620 --> 01:18:07,740
thing. The two things a week,
listen to no agenda, and then go

1317
01:18:07,740 --> 01:18:13,080
outside and play with your kids.
Read a book, roll in the grass,

1318
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:15,630
John C Dvorak: walk the dog,
just listening to no agenda and

1319
01:18:15,630 --> 01:18:17,610
reading a book is the way to go.
Pretty much

1320
01:18:17,610 --> 01:18:20,190
Adam Curry: all you need. There
was a very sad moment, something

1321
01:18:20,220 --> 01:18:26,220
unexpected, and, obviously food
for conspiracy therapists such

1322
01:18:26,220 --> 01:18:30,480
as myself, I was very distressed
to hear this. This is chip Roy

1323
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:32,220
on the floor of the house. We
were

1324
01:18:32,220 --> 01:18:35,430
Unknown: all saddened to learn
today of the passing of the

1325
01:18:35,430 --> 01:18:38,730
spouse and one of our members.
Thomas Massie, the gentleman

1326
01:18:38,730 --> 01:18:43,770
from Kentucky, his wife, Rhonda,
of many years, they were

1327
01:18:43,950 --> 01:18:47,670
childhood sweethearts. She
suddenly passed away yesterday,

1328
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,910
Mr. Massey had to drive home to
Kentucky and be home with his

1329
01:18:50,910 --> 01:18:54,120
family, which is where he is
today. I would ask everybody in

1330
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,480
the chamber and everybody around
the complex to please rise

1331
01:18:58,740 --> 01:19:00,930
Adam Curry: and absorb a moment
of silence and offer your

1332
01:19:00,930 --> 01:19:03,600
prayers and thoughts and
condolences for our good friend

1333
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,740
from Kentucky. Dude, what are
the chances of that? The guy

1334
01:19:07,740 --> 01:19:11,460
comes out talks about AIPAC
being no good they're not

1335
01:19:11,460 --> 01:19:17,370
allowed in his office. He really
laid out a lot of truths and and

1336
01:19:17,670 --> 01:19:21,090
obvious things that are just not
discussed on Tucker just list a

1337
01:19:21,090 --> 01:19:25,380
couple of weeks ago and then at
51 I think his wife dies

1338
01:19:25,380 --> 01:19:32,700
suddenly died on like, suddenly
I don't like that at all. Very

1339
01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:35,430
sad, but also Whoa, are you
kidding me now?

1340
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:42,210
John C Dvorak: You do not hear
Vax zaharie No, no, no,

1341
01:19:42,210 --> 01:19:47,190
Adam Curry: no, not from them.
Nope, nope, nope. Nope. Not from

1342
01:19:47,190 --> 01:19:52,980
them. They were not Vax. You
sure yes. Yes. Did you ever see

1343
01:19:52,980 --> 01:19:55,320
the full interview with Tucker
that he did?

1344
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,410
John C Dvorak: No, I only
watched the clip. It's clip.

1345
01:19:58,410 --> 01:19:59,580
It's the clip. It's

1346
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,850
Adam Curry: Clifford's. So now,
I think it all comes back to,

1347
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,170
you know, just people got to
stop being mind controlled that

1348
01:20:10,170 --> 01:20:12,360
some daddio is going to come
into the White House and fix

1349
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:17,280
your business. No, that's not
going to happen. But they want

1350
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,430
you to think that no matter who
it is, they want you to feel

1351
01:20:20,430 --> 01:20:20,760
before

1352
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,650
John C Dvorak: we get off the
topic, which is coming, I can

1353
01:20:22,650 --> 01:20:25,590
tell ya, I think I think we're I
have two Biden clips where he

1354
01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:28,980
actually talks and I want to get
these out of the way. Okay. I

1355
01:20:28,980 --> 01:20:31,380
also have the one where he says
that people should be more

1356
01:20:31,380 --> 01:20:33,690
concerned about being women
should be concerned about being

1357
01:20:33,690 --> 01:20:35,010
raped by their sister.

1358
01:20:36,270 --> 01:20:40,260
Adam Curry: Everyone sees
everybody saw it. But okay.

1359
01:20:41,070 --> 01:20:43,020
John C Dvorak: No, I don't want
to play that Oh, involved, but

1360
01:20:43,020 --> 01:20:43,110
you

1361
01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:43,800
Adam Curry: have it.

1362
01:20:44,460 --> 01:20:45,780
John C Dvorak: I do have if you
want to play,

1363
01:20:46,860 --> 01:20:48,270
Adam Curry: we might as well
play it. So

1364
01:20:48,330 --> 01:20:50,670
Unknown: there's so many young
women who have been including a

1365
01:20:50,670 --> 01:20:54,240
young woman who just was
murdered. And he went to the

1366
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:59,340
funeral. The idea that she was
murdered by a wife by an

1367
01:20:59,340 --> 01:21:03,000
immigrant coming into a talk
about that, but here's the deal.

1368
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,570
There's a lot of young women to
be raped by their by their in

1369
01:21:06,570 --> 01:21:12,900
laws, by their by their spouses,
or sisters, by it's just

1370
01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:15,660
ridiculous. And they can do
nothing about it. And they try

1371
01:21:15,660 --> 01:21:17,340
to rest them on the Cross State
Line. Thank

1372
01:21:17,340 --> 01:21:18,570
you. You

1373
01:21:18,570 --> 01:21:21,390
Adam Curry: know, they must have
rehearsed that with him. And

1374
01:21:21,390 --> 01:21:23,640
they're like, oh, this would be
great. Joe, when you say this,

1375
01:21:23,670 --> 01:21:26,220
the Republicans will go crazy.

1376
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,210
John C Dvorak: Which of course
everybody will they did. They

1377
01:21:30,210 --> 01:21:33,630
wish they did. Of course it's so
now the thing that I thought was

1378
01:21:33,630 --> 01:21:36,240
the key Gala, two more clips,
and I'm not gonna play anymore.

1379
01:21:36,630 --> 01:21:39,600
But this is a Biden that I
thought the key gaff was this

1380
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,330
one. And this is the one where
Trump kept looking over there

1381
01:21:42,330 --> 01:21:45,870
and going, this guy's off the
rails to 29 second clip, this is

1382
01:21:45,870 --> 01:21:49,170
the Biden key, gaff Medicare,
make

1383
01:21:49,170 --> 01:21:51,900
Unknown: sure that all those
things we need to do child care,

1384
01:21:52,020 --> 01:21:54,810
elder care, making sure that we
continue to support and

1385
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,300
strengthen our healthcare
system, making sure that we're

1386
01:21:57,300 --> 01:22:02,250
able to make every single
solitary person eligible for

1387
01:22:02,250 --> 01:22:06,330
what I've been able to do with
the with the COVID Excuse me

1388
01:22:06,330 --> 01:22:15,900
with dealing with everything we
have to deal with. If we finally

1389
01:22:15,900 --> 01:22:18,090
beat Medicare, thank you
precedent.

1390
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,790
John C Dvorak: What had they had
the Fauci wizard, you know?

1391
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,840
Adam Curry: Oh, you know, Tom
Starkweather, did an endo show

1392
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:31,200
mix is beautiful because about
it's about a minute and it's it

1393
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,330
is the I mean, it's an
evergreen, it's the debate of

1394
01:22:33,330 --> 01:22:38,580
2024 in one minute. And and he
was doing a play by play on

1395
01:22:38,580 --> 01:22:41,820
Mastodon of how it was editing
it. And he says that Biden

1396
01:22:41,820 --> 01:22:45,480
literally has only three seconds
of breath every single time he

1397
01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:48,960
speaks. He could see it in the
waveforms. It was three seconds.

1398
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:52,290
He couldn't do anything more
than three seconds of breath for

1399
01:22:52,290 --> 01:22:55,830
anything. He said. You can count
it. Yeah, when you speak. Wow.

1400
01:22:55,890 --> 01:22:58,680
Yeah, it was that was pretty
interesting how it was

1401
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,320
deconstructing that on the fly.
Now,

1402
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,060
John C Dvorak: the only one I
want to play, which is the

1403
01:23:03,060 --> 01:23:07,890
absolute first comments made at
the debate, where Biden comes

1404
01:23:07,890 --> 01:23:11,790
out, and he and I only have the
first few first few seconds of

1405
01:23:11,790 --> 01:23:15,240
this. What is this is a debate.
First comments, Biden is one

1406
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:19,980
minute 16 out of two.
Immediately, and I'm gonna ring

1407
01:23:19,980 --> 01:23:24,480
the bell. He starts lying, he
started, he's the one who

1408
01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:28,890
started the lying. And he starts
it with he comes out they asked

1409
01:23:28,890 --> 01:23:31,920
him a simple question. He lies
three or four times in the first

1410
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,640
minute and then he goes on and
lies about insulin and Medicare

1411
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,720
and the amount of people amount
of money people have to pay. And

1412
01:23:40,110 --> 01:23:44,550
this was nobody wants to talk
about him being a bigger liar

1413
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:45,720
than Trump says

1414
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,690
Unknown: remain high. Since you
took office, the price of

1415
01:23:48,690 --> 01:23:52,350
essentials has increased, for
example, a basket of groceries

1416
01:23:52,350 --> 01:23:57,870
that cost $100 Then now costs
more than $120. And typical home

1417
01:23:57,870 --> 01:24:01,500
prices have jumped more than
30%. What do you say to voters

1418
01:24:01,500 --> 01:24:04,590
who feel they are worse off
under your presidency than they

1419
01:24:04,590 --> 01:24:05,970
were under President Trump?

1420
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,310
We're gonna take a look at what
I was left. When I became

1421
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:12,480
President. Mr. Trump left. We
had an economy that was in

1422
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:16,950
freefall, the pandemic why we
handled, many people were dying.

1423
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:19,710
All he said was it's not that
serious. just inject a little

1424
01:24:19,710 --> 01:24:24,450
bleach and your arm could be our
economy collapsed. For no job.

1425
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:29,400
Why? Rose to 50% It was
terrible. And so what we had to

1426
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,340
do is try to put things back
together again. That's exactly

1427
01:24:32,340 --> 01:24:36,810
what we began to do. We created
50,000 new jobs. We brought out

1428
01:24:37,260 --> 01:24:41,190
a position where we have 800,000
manufacturing jobs, but there's

1429
01:24:41,190 --> 01:24:44,220
more to be done. There's more to
be done working class people are

1430
01:24:44,220 --> 01:24:47,280
still in trouble. I come from
Scranton, Pennsylvania, I come

1431
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,490
of household, where to kitchen
table if things weren't able to

1432
01:24:50,490 --> 01:24:53,430
be met during the month was a
problem. Price, the base the

1433
01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:55,860
price of gas, the price of
housing, the price, a whole

1434
01:24:55,860 --> 01:24:59,130
range of things. That's why I'm
working so hard to make sure I

1435
01:24:59,130 --> 01:25:01,710
deal with those parts. Oops. And
we're going to make sure they're

1436
01:25:01,710 --> 01:25:01,950
here.

1437
01:25:02,550 --> 01:25:04,200
Adam Curry: Well, you could
really hear the three second

1438
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:04,620
cadence

1439
01:25:05,220 --> 01:25:08,820
John C Dvorak: that yes, you
Yep. And now that he's done

1440
01:25:08,820 --> 01:25:12,450
that, as I really listened to
that clip, and I could hear that

1441
01:25:12,450 --> 01:25:16,410
three seconds. Now it's going to
be totally annoying to listen to

1442
01:25:16,410 --> 01:25:16,830
Biden.

1443
01:25:17,730 --> 01:25:19,980
Adam Curry: Or you'll know that
it's the guy in the mask if he

1444
01:25:19,980 --> 01:25:22,230
goes beyond three seconds
because that can't be Biden.

1445
01:25:22,830 --> 01:25:27,270
John C Dvorak: Oh, that could be
that's a good point. The mask

1446
01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:28,650
doesn't have the same teeth.

1447
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:34,830
Adam Curry: Anyway, make sure
you go outside play with the

1448
01:25:34,830 --> 01:25:37,440
kids, everybody. Don't get
suckered into this is not worth

1449
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:40,920
it. With right now. I'm telling
it's all going to go the way you

1450
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,830
want it. It's going to be fine.
We'll have big beautiful ships,

1451
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:47,130
very fast subs, they go deeper
than anything else. Beautiful

1452
01:25:47,130 --> 01:25:50,640
bases with beachfront. It's
fantastic. It's all going to be

1453
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:54,270
good and you're gonna pay for it
one way or the other. And the

1454
01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:57,030
financial you know, Trump all of
a sudden you notice he's like,

1455
01:25:57,270 --> 01:26:00,630
I'm all good with Bitcoin.
Bitcoins. Okay, Bitcoin. Yeah,

1456
01:26:00,630 --> 01:26:03,630
it'd be great for Bitcoin. I
think that's only because he

1457
01:26:03,630 --> 01:26:08,280
knows there's going to be some
kind of digital dollar. That

1458
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,340
resets gotta happen. Doesn't
that have happened? We had

1459
01:26:11,340 --> 01:26:15,150
financial resets globally in the
in the hundreds of years, we

1460
01:26:15,150 --> 01:26:17,250
must have had some kind of
resets throughout the years.

1461
01:26:17,250 --> 01:26:18,480
Would you know anything about
that?

1462
01:26:20,010 --> 01:26:22,050
John C Dvorak: Maybe World War
One? Yeah.

1463
01:26:22,440 --> 01:26:24,840
Adam Curry: Not after World War
Two didn't then doesn't that

1464
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:25,380
when we got

1465
01:26:25,710 --> 01:26:27,870
John C Dvorak: going on World
War Two, we actually did a good

1466
01:26:27,870 --> 01:26:30,330
job of getting everybody back on
their feet. When would you

1467
01:26:30,330 --> 01:26:30,900
Bretton Woods

1468
01:26:30,900 --> 01:26:34,500
Adam Curry: after World War One?
Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And

1469
01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:35,490
World War Two.

1470
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:39,330
John C Dvorak: There was some
some some divisions going on in

1471
01:26:39,330 --> 01:26:43,500
World War Two where we divided
things up divvied things up. A

1472
01:26:43,500 --> 01:26:45,810
big reset, I don't know. I'm not
convinced

1473
01:26:45,810 --> 01:26:49,140
Adam Curry: of this. No, not big
reset financial reset. Now,

1474
01:26:49,140 --> 01:26:50,790
John C Dvorak: that could be
something that there could be,

1475
01:26:51,330 --> 01:26:54,690
we could have a stock market
crash. Well, that seems a given.

1476
01:26:55,230 --> 01:26:59,220
I've been saying that ever
since. Yeah, CrossOver 40,000.

1477
01:26:59,220 --> 01:27:05,610
When I've seen this before I saw
this in the mail as a kid. They

1478
01:27:05,910 --> 01:27:09,090
market gets to some point, it
just has this spot where it has,

1479
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,780
it won't, it'll go over a bump
against it. And it keeps trying

1480
01:27:12,780 --> 01:27:16,020
and trying and trying to go over
and is sitting there below as

1481
01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:19,950
you as it would do. And then try
to make a run at it again. And

1482
01:27:19,950 --> 01:27:22,860
then it's somehow it just like
some psychological thing takes

1483
01:27:22,860 --> 01:27:26,190
place. There's no it's not going
to happen. And then the whole

1484
01:27:26,190 --> 01:27:29,550
thing just falls apart. It will
break was that the world war two

1485
01:27:29,700 --> 01:27:34,110
will be about party take place
in about six months.

1486
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,360
Adam Curry: Right? Well, that's
the perfect timing. That's why

1487
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:41,220
they will be in to fix it. Yeah.
And he will fix it and, and they

1488
01:27:41,220 --> 01:27:45,210
have this may have already been
concocted already. If you didn't

1489
01:27:45,210 --> 01:27:48,960
figure it out. And that's when
we get the mark of the beast.

1490
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,860
All right, there was something
else that went down a couple of

1491
01:27:52,860 --> 01:27:56,610
interesting rulings from the
Supreme Court as they are ready

1492
01:27:56,610 --> 01:27:59,340
to go on vacation. They've had
to extend it. How are they gonna

1493
01:27:59,340 --> 01:28:03,000
have to do one more on Monday?
Hmm. But there was a couple

1494
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,520
interesting things in there. You
discuss it three in the

1495
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,700
newsletter and one of them is
one that we've been talking

1496
01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:11,130
about for several months on the
no agenda show I'd like the

1497
01:28:11,130 --> 01:28:14,340
people emailed and said, I knew
what this was about because of

1498
01:28:14,340 --> 01:28:15,090
you guys

1499
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,300
Unknown: tonight three colossal
decisions with far reaching

1500
01:28:18,300 --> 01:28:21,930
consequences. The High Court
narrowing who can be charged

1501
01:28:21,930 --> 01:28:25,950
under a federal law that dates
back to Enron were recently used

1502
01:28:25,950 --> 01:28:29,370
to prosecute more than 200
people who stormed the Capitol

1503
01:28:29,370 --> 01:28:35,310
on January 6. The justice is
opening the door now to possible

1504
01:28:35,310 --> 01:28:39,390
resentencing or even read trials
for roughly a few dozen still

1505
01:28:39,390 --> 01:28:42,960
behind bars. At least one judge
moving quickly today asking

1506
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,380
prosecutors to weigh in on next
steps with a handful of

1507
01:28:46,380 --> 01:28:50,070
defendants former President
Trump likely not impacted by

1508
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:53,670
today's ruling, nor most other
people who were charged with

1509
01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:57,990
other crimes related to January
6, in another major case, the

1510
01:28:57,990 --> 01:29:01,800
High Court knocking down a 40
year old rule of its own making

1511
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,040
that required judges to defer to
federal agencies when

1512
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:09,810
interpreting vague laws passed
by Congress. That practice known

1513
01:29:09,810 --> 01:29:13,650
as the chevron framework, long
targeted by conservatives is

1514
01:29:13,650 --> 01:29:15,420
Adam Curry: an interesting she
said framework instead of

1515
01:29:15,420 --> 01:29:16,560
deference. Yeah,

1516
01:29:16,590 --> 01:29:18,900
John C Dvorak: well, actually
deference is a term that kind of

1517
01:29:18,930 --> 01:29:22,530
cropped up in the documents
himself. It's called the chevron

1518
01:29:22,530 --> 01:29:23,310
doctrine.

1519
01:29:23,490 --> 01:29:26,220
Adam Curry: Yes, doctrine, but
not the framework. Nobody uses

1520
01:29:26,220 --> 01:29:26,640
that. We've

1521
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,430
Unknown: argued it gives
unelected bureaucrats too much

1522
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:33,390
power, the decision likely to
prompt a rush of lawsuits,

1523
01:29:33,480 --> 01:29:36,960
challenging regulations on
everything from food safety to

1524
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:40,650
the environment. Also, today,
the courts conservative majority

1525
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,640
upholding laws banning people
experiencing homelessness from

1526
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:48,540
sleeping outdoors, finding no
violation of the Constitution's

1527
01:29:48,540 --> 01:29:52,710
prohibition on cruel and unusual
punishment, drawing a sharp

1528
01:29:52,710 --> 01:29:56,250
dissent from the liberals. With
Justice Sotomayor writing sleep

1529
01:29:56,250 --> 01:29:59,370
is a biological necessity, not a
crime.

1530
01:29:59,610 --> 01:30:02,880
Adam Curry: So let's go in
reverse order here. Do you have

1531
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:08,250
any any clips on the on the
outdoor sleeping camping ruling?

1532
01:30:08,250 --> 01:30:08,550
No,

1533
01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:10,830
John C Dvorak: I did have a
couple that were kind of lined

1534
01:30:10,830 --> 01:30:13,920
up. I never took them. But it's
mostly guys ranting about cruel

1535
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:15,660
and unusual punishment. Let's

1536
01:30:15,660 --> 01:30:17,820
Adam Curry: just go back to the
history of this because it

1537
01:30:17,820 --> 01:30:21,450
actually, although this case was
brought from Oregon, and we

1538
01:30:21,450 --> 01:30:24,570
followed this for years, yeah,
it came out it really came out

1539
01:30:24,570 --> 01:30:29,100
of Idaho, exactly, Idaho. And
they decided up there, we can't

1540
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:32,370
move people's tents. And some
consultants came in and said,

1541
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,910
Oh, no, that's cruel, unusual
punishment, punishment. And that

1542
01:30:35,910 --> 01:30:40,530
really started off the entire
homelessness, visibility. And I

1543
01:30:40,530 --> 01:30:42,420
don't want to say homelessness
isn't real.

1544
01:30:42,690 --> 01:30:44,400
John C Dvorak: But the
visibility homelessness is what

1545
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:49,140
been around but but this visible
homelessness on the city streets

1546
01:30:49,140 --> 01:30:55,110
of San Francisco, Los Angeles,
Boston and elsewhere in New

1547
01:30:55,110 --> 01:30:59,670
York, that all came out of this
Idaho idea that this is to Moose

1548
01:30:59,700 --> 01:31:03,600
takes to have a vagrancy laws to
Hey, buddy, get you and your

1549
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:09,750
tent off the street. That's
somehow cruel, and unusual,

1550
01:31:09,750 --> 01:31:13,380
hostile, unusual. It's been
going on forever. 200 years of

1551
01:31:13,620 --> 01:31:17,190
the vagrancy laws. It's not
unusual. So it's not cruel and

1552
01:31:17,190 --> 01:31:20,160
unusual. It's not even cruel.
It's just, you know, it's just

1553
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,100
the way it is. I mean, it's like
giving somebody a traffic ticket

1554
01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:26,670
and saying, well, that traffic
is cruel and unusual. It's

1555
01:31:26,670 --> 01:31:29,970
Adam Curry: a biological
necessity. John says our Supreme

1556
01:31:29,970 --> 01:31:35,280
Court. The the problem I have
with it is it really took away a

1557
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:40,530
lot of resources and, and
government cycles from solving

1558
01:31:40,530 --> 01:31:44,190
the actual problem to people
instead, we're arguing about

1559
01:31:44,190 --> 01:31:48,270
this about is it cruel, Is that
unusual? Is it punishment, and

1560
01:31:48,270 --> 01:31:52,950
meanwhile, it also deteriorated
the streets of the cities. It

1561
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:57,180
made it. It made it a mess and
really diverted attention away

1562
01:31:57,180 --> 01:32:00,660
from helping people in this
situation, which to me is the

1563
01:32:00,660 --> 01:32:05,910
true crime. Then the other one,
before we get to Chevron is the

1564
01:32:05,910 --> 01:32:09,480
January 6 ruling. I thought this
was very interesting. Here's an

1565
01:32:09,480 --> 01:32:12,390
overview. Breaking news this
time about sorry, here's

1566
01:32:12,390 --> 01:32:15,630
breaking news about it. Breaking
news this time about the January

1567
01:32:15,630 --> 01:32:18,630
6 writers the Supreme Court has
just ruled that's good to

1568
01:32:18,630 --> 01:32:19,890
Shannon Bream. What did they
say?

1569
01:32:19,950 --> 01:32:22,410
Unknown: So what they have said
is that one of the statutes, the

1570
01:32:22,410 --> 01:32:26,550
Justice Department used to
charge hundreds of different

1571
01:32:26,550 --> 01:32:29,910
January six defendants is no
good. And that includes

1572
01:32:29,910 --> 01:32:33,300
President Donald Trump because
he has actually had two of these

1573
01:32:33,300 --> 01:32:36,780
counts against him. And the Jack
Smith DC case against him that

1574
01:32:36,780 --> 01:32:39,660
federal criminal case that has
been on hold here. So what

1575
01:32:39,660 --> 01:32:42,240
essentially they say is this
statute which was passed in the

1576
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:45,660
wake of Enron, they say it
doesn't fit here. He says, given

1577
01:32:45,660 --> 01:32:48,990
that this subsection was enacted
to address the Enron disaster,

1578
01:32:48,990 --> 01:32:51,870
not some other far flung set of
dangers, like what happened just

1579
01:32:51,870 --> 01:32:54,720
right over here. at the Capitol,
it is unlikely that Congress

1580
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,930
responded with such an unfocused
and grossly incommensurate patch

1581
01:32:57,930 --> 01:33:01,020
in English. That essentially
means that all of these people

1582
01:33:01,020 --> 01:33:03,840
who were charged under this
particular obstruction statute

1583
01:33:03,990 --> 01:33:07,950
for January 6, that is no good.
The dissent is this is a very

1584
01:33:07,950 --> 01:33:10,530
interesting vote makeup because
the dissent is actually written

1585
01:33:10,530 --> 01:33:13,410
by Justice Barrett and she is
joined by justices Sotomayor and

1586
01:33:13,410 --> 01:33:16,860
Kagan. She says that Congress
did intend for this kind of

1587
01:33:16,860 --> 01:33:19,710
conduct to be brought under this
particular obstruction charge,

1588
01:33:19,710 --> 01:33:22,590
he thinks the majority got it
wrong. But what it means is a

1589
01:33:22,590 --> 01:33:25,320
big headache for the DOJ and
good news for hundreds of

1590
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:28,110
January six defendants charged
under this statute, again,

1591
01:33:28,110 --> 01:33:29,340
including President Trump,

1592
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:32,100
Adam Curry: it was interesting
that Barrett went, went against

1593
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:35,010
the majority on this one, she's
turning out to be kind of not

1594
01:33:35,010 --> 01:33:36,570
what people expected from her.

1595
01:33:37,590 --> 01:33:39,480
John C Dvorak: She's just the
independent thinker. That's all

1596
01:33:39,480 --> 01:33:42,540
I can say. And she was, in fact,
the other thing is, where's the

1597
01:33:42,540 --> 01:33:46,710
Catan? g brown? Yeah, I'm crazy
black woman went on the other

1598
01:33:46,710 --> 01:33:51,240
side of it. I know. So the two
flip flop that maybe Maybe they

1599
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:51,900
had a deal?

1600
01:33:52,860 --> 01:33:55,380
Adam Curry: Jonathan Turley,
luckily, he gave us a little

1601
01:33:55,380 --> 01:33:59,730
explanation. I trust his
opinion. Yeah, he's good on what

1602
01:33:59,730 --> 01:34:04,080
this means for people who are
still in jail, people who've

1603
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:10,470
been sentenced and for President
Trump's case that Jack Smith, a

1604
01:34:10,470 --> 01:34:12,510
special prosecutor is running

1605
01:34:12,540 --> 01:34:15,390
Unknown: two aspects to this,
some of them were convicted of

1606
01:34:15,630 --> 01:34:21,030
what is now established would be
improper charges. I mean, we

1607
01:34:21,030 --> 01:34:25,080
they that hundreds of people
were the subject of improper

1608
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:29,280
charges by the Justice
Department. That includes

1609
01:34:29,310 --> 01:34:33,240
President Trump, who has not
been tried yet. They were also

1610
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:36,960
sentenced based on this
conviction as well as a mix of

1611
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,840
other things. So those
sentencing decisions now have to

1612
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:45,150
be reevaluated. I've said all
along that I was surprised by

1613
01:34:45,150 --> 01:34:48,660
how heavy the Department of
Justice went on obstruction. I

1614
01:34:48,930 --> 01:34:51,960
analogize that to someone going
to Vegas and playing roulette,

1615
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:56,070
but only betting read it well.
Basically, the court just said

1616
01:34:56,280 --> 01:35:00,450
reds not a bad. So we've got to
go back and look at In all of

1617
01:35:00,450 --> 01:35:04,440
these cases, not just for those
who now have these convictions

1618
01:35:04,440 --> 01:35:08,820
knocked out, but how they impact
sentencing for President Trump.

1619
01:35:08,970 --> 01:35:13,110
This is a big day. I mean, I've
said all along that Fisher's

1620
01:35:13,140 --> 01:35:16,590
needs to be treated as important
as the immunity decision

1621
01:35:16,590 --> 01:35:20,880
potentially for Trump. It
basically rips the wings off the

1622
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:25,110
plane that Jack Smith is trying
to get off the ground in DC now,

1623
01:35:25,110 --> 01:35:29,430
can he push that plane forward?
On the runway? I don't know.

1624
01:35:30,210 --> 01:35:34,530
Because if you take this this
claim out, it's really integral

1625
01:35:34,530 --> 01:35:37,440
to his entire complaint. I mean,
it's hard to see all the

1626
01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:43,050
complaint holds together, if he
was excessive and wrong in

1627
01:35:43,050 --> 01:35:44,970
bringing these charges.

1628
01:35:47,430 --> 01:35:51,270
Adam Curry: Excuse me. All
right. So that that looks good

1629
01:35:51,270 --> 01:35:53,820
for Trump looks good. For the
January 6 People were really

1630
01:35:53,820 --> 01:35:57,210
starting to clear up a lot of
things here at the end of Joe

1631
01:35:57,210 --> 01:36:01,410
Biden's reign of terror. And
then we get to the one that we

1632
01:36:01,410 --> 01:36:04,470
are most interested in, which is
Chevron deference, which you've

1633
01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:07,650
been following and and looking
into and explaining actually

1634
01:36:07,650 --> 01:36:10,920
have a an analysis from our
constitutional lawyer. Rob,

1635
01:36:11,460 --> 01:36:14,640
here's the MSNBC quick take. On

1636
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,730
Unknown: Friday, the Supreme
Court handed down a decision to

1637
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,540
reduce the power of federal
agencies by gutting the long

1638
01:36:21,540 --> 01:36:25,830
standing legal precedent of
Chevron versus Natural Resources

1639
01:36:25,830 --> 01:36:29,160
Defense Council that gave
federal agencies broad

1640
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,880
regulatory power. The justices
may be driving key legal

1641
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,420
decisions in our country right
now. But there are subjects that

1642
01:36:36,420 --> 01:36:40,320
they probably don't know much
about. I mean, to my knowledge,

1643
01:36:40,470 --> 01:36:44,370
Chief Justice Roberts is not a
chemical engineer, Justice Brett

1644
01:36:44,370 --> 01:36:47,730
Kavanaugh is not a botanist. And
last I checked, Justice Amy

1645
01:36:47,730 --> 01:36:52,260
Coney Barrett is not a member of
the Federal Reserve. But that's

1646
01:36:52,350 --> 01:36:56,310
what this ruling implies that
these justices are experts in

1647
01:36:56,310 --> 01:37:00,840
fields outside of the law better
than the people who get paid to

1648
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,060
make these decisions in the
federal government.

1649
01:37:03,090 --> 01:37:05,160
Adam Curry: Now, this is
obviously the narrative that is

1650
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:08,910
going to be spun. That's why I
played that clip. But I need

1651
01:37:08,910 --> 01:37:15,600
your expertise for this next
analysis, which comes to us from

1652
01:37:15,810 --> 01:37:20,040
man joy, read getting play these
days. She's primetime. Listen to

1653
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:24,780
this, because you are sub
subject expert in this

1654
01:37:24,810 --> 01:37:25,620
conversation.

1655
01:37:25,650 --> 01:37:28,380
Unknown: Okay, Ali, what is
Chevron deference and long may

1656
01:37:28,380 --> 01:37:28,980
it rest?

1657
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:32,760
Yeah. So okay. People understand
that Congress passes the laws,

1658
01:37:32,940 --> 01:37:35,490
and the President enforces the
law. Right. So Congress passes

1659
01:37:35,490 --> 01:37:38,820
all let's say, it's called the
Clean Water Act. Right. And then

1660
01:37:38,820 --> 01:37:41,730
the president through the
executive agency of the EPA

1661
01:37:41,940 --> 01:37:45,360
defines what the Clean Water Act
actually means. Now, people

1662
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,970
might home might say, like, Oh,
why can't Congress define it?

1663
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:51,960
Well, Congress doesn't define
words like clean. Congress

1664
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:56,250
doesn't define words like water.
So who was who's going to make

1665
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,880
the decision as to how much lead
is actually allowed to be in the

1666
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:03,180
water before it's clean experts?
Who's going to make the decision

1667
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,840
about what constitutes water? Is
it a pool isn't a puddle? Is it

1668
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,960
a river? Is it a lake? Who gets
to make that decision experts

1669
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:14,310
for the last 40 years, it's been
experts at the EPA. Okay. But as

1670
01:38:14,310 --> 01:38:18,960
of today, the only people
entrusted to make that decision,

1671
01:38:19,140 --> 01:38:23,340
according to the Supreme Court
is the Supreme Court. So what

1672
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:29,670
was the Supreme Court making the
biggest power grab over our

1673
01:38:29,670 --> 01:38:34,260
elected government since really
the founding since 1803, when

1674
01:38:34,260 --> 01:38:36,810
the Supreme Court invented the
idea of calling laws

1675
01:38:36,810 --> 01:38:39,720
unconstitutional, which has not
actually been the Constitution

1676
01:38:39,810 --> 01:38:43,680
since then, this is the next
hugest thing, because what the

1677
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:47,070
Supreme Court is saying that it
can do the job that the

1678
01:38:47,070 --> 01:38:51,210
Constitution gives to the
President of the United States

1679
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:56,400
Adam Curry: completely off base
off kilter. Basically a lie. And

1680
01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:00,450
the Clean Water Act, which is a
I looked at it it's very, very

1681
01:39:00,450 --> 01:39:05,040
big piece of legislation was
really a funding bill. It was a

1682
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:11,490
funding bill to set up a lot of
agency, X expertise, and

1683
01:39:11,490 --> 01:39:14,880
reporting structure, there was
no determination of how much

1684
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:18,270
lead can be in the water. That
was that's not in the Clean

1685
01:39:18,270 --> 01:39:23,850
Water Act. Is there anything?
There's a piece that is more

1686
01:39:23,850 --> 01:39:26,070
pertinent to you coming up? Is
there anything you want to say

1687
01:39:26,070 --> 01:39:29,340
about this other than that's a
lie? That's not how it works?

1688
01:39:29,670 --> 01:39:32,310
John C Dvorak: It's a lie.
That's not how it works. I will

1689
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,850
mention that what difference
does it make in terms of the

1690
01:39:35,940 --> 01:39:40,560
Chevron deference, we have to
remember, came in 1984. And we

1691
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:44,400
had these agencies the
administrative state was alive

1692
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:49,470
and well, for sensitive I don't
know the authorities says the

1693
01:39:49,500 --> 01:39:52,260
Franklin Roosevelt
administration and on and I

1694
01:39:52,260 --> 01:39:54,780
guess even before that, to some
lesser extent, because there was

1695
01:39:54,780 --> 01:39:58,710
a Bureau of Land Management in
the Indian bureaus and all the

1696
01:39:58,710 --> 01:40:02,340
rest of it. They had gotten Long
just fine without have without

1697
01:40:02,340 --> 01:40:06,990
all of a sudden becoming the be
all end all of legislation where

1698
01:40:06,990 --> 01:40:10,830
I owe some expert in this
bullcrap. This entire case the

1699
01:40:10,830 --> 01:40:14,730
case that the God Chevron
deference thrown out is the

1700
01:40:14,730 --> 01:40:19,230
rimando case. And that's where
the fishermen, fishermen, were

1701
01:40:19,230 --> 01:40:24,960
told that they have to have an
inspector on their boat at $170

1702
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:29,670
a day, and they have to pay for
the inspector. Because some

1703
01:40:29,670 --> 01:40:32,850
bureaucrat decided that's the
easiest bit better so easier on

1704
01:40:32,850 --> 01:40:36,420
our budget if you have to pay
what expertise does that take

1705
01:40:36,420 --> 01:40:40,170
what kind of blue this is great
expertise? No, it's not it's

1706
01:40:40,170 --> 01:40:44,310
somebody deciding you have to
pay 170 bucks a day on a small

1707
01:40:44,310 --> 01:40:47,220
fishing boat to keep this
inspector on the boat when the

1708
01:40:47,220 --> 01:40:50,100
government should be paying for
the inspector not you was that

1709
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:52,410
the number and that's what it
all stemmed is all stems around

1710
01:40:52,410 --> 01:40:56,580
this so called experts, these
experts. That's only at some at

1711
01:40:56,580 --> 01:41:00,090
a very thin layer. There's most
of the time these people are

1712
01:41:00,090 --> 01:41:03,480
just out there doing
bureaucratic paperwork is this

1713
01:41:03,480 --> 01:41:06,090
is the most nonsensical thing
I've ever heard.

1714
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:07,650
Adam Curry: Well, there's a
reason that they're they're

1715
01:41:07,650 --> 01:41:11,520
taking this this tact we'll get
to it. But first analysis from

1716
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:15,840
our constitutional lawyer Rob
former jag here he is, Justice

1717
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,680
Kagan's dissent predicts
judicial mayhem. She foresees,

1718
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:23,040
quote, large scale disruption
and a massive shock to the legal

1719
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:26,340
system, casting doubt on many
settled constructions of

1720
01:41:26,340 --> 01:41:29,250
statutes and threatening the
interests of many parties who

1721
01:41:29,250 --> 01:41:33,090
have relied on them for years.
Rob says nonsense. This decision

1722
01:41:33,090 --> 01:41:35,820
won't strip administrative
agencies of their interpretive

1723
01:41:35,820 --> 01:41:39,480
powers. They will continue to do
what they've always done, issued

1724
01:41:39,480 --> 01:41:42,000
rules and regulations and
interpret those edicts when the

1725
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:45,300
time comes to enforce them. The
only difference now is that

1726
01:41:45,300 --> 01:41:49,710
courts no longer have to defer
to what the agency says his

1727
01:41:49,710 --> 01:41:53,370
prediction. Courts will still
view agency interpretations as

1728
01:41:53,370 --> 01:41:57,150
persuasive authority under a
doctrine called Skidmore

1729
01:41:57,150 --> 01:42:01,110
deference. And we'll accept
those. I'd like that Skidmore,

1730
01:42:01,140 --> 01:42:03,750
just sounds like a cool name.
And we'll accept those

1731
01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:06,810
interpretations. Most of the
time, no judicial Armageddon is

1732
01:42:06,810 --> 01:42:10,080
at hand but going forward,
agencies can no longer come up

1733
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:14,610
with strange but permissible,
interpret interpretations. And

1734
01:42:14,610 --> 01:42:18,300
expect the courts to capitulate.
Big corporations can no longer

1735
01:42:18,300 --> 01:42:22,230
place their people in the
agencies to make lopsided rules

1736
01:42:22,410 --> 01:42:25,650
that will benefit well connected
business interests at everyone

1737
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:29,100
else's expense. This is good
news. Nor does yesterday's

1738
01:42:29,100 --> 01:42:31,860
decision mean that all
precedents following Chevron are

1739
01:42:31,860 --> 01:42:36,000
now bad law. The fact is most of
these cases probably would have

1740
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,550
been decided the same way
because in most cases, the

1741
01:42:38,550 --> 01:42:41,100
agency's interpretation was
probably the most persuasive

1742
01:42:41,100 --> 01:42:44,490
option. We should expect a few
old decisions to be overruled,

1743
01:42:44,490 --> 01:42:47,460
but that will take time. And
let's face it, bad laws ought to

1744
01:42:47,460 --> 01:42:50,070
die anyway, I think that's
pretty fair.

1745
01:42:51,180 --> 01:42:54,180
John C Dvorak: I think that's
pretty on the money. And and

1746
01:42:54,210 --> 01:42:56,520
that's true. That's it's going
to change. It's not going to

1747
01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:00,060
change that much. But the idea
of agency capture is kind of

1748
01:43:00,060 --> 01:43:03,780
maybe out the window, this whole
idea that all of a sudden some

1749
01:43:03,810 --> 01:43:08,040
agency and agency decides that
we have to go all electric by

1750
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:12,570
2030. That's not our law.
Anybody passes us some agency

1751
01:43:12,570 --> 01:43:16,080
decision that is then used as
leverage by the Democrat Party

1752
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,450
mostly, or a CDC is out the
window

1753
01:43:18,450 --> 01:43:21,990
Adam Curry: or a CDC vaccine
mandate. That kind of stuff.

1754
01:43:22,020 --> 01:43:24,630
John C Dvorak: Yeah. That was a
lot of stuff. Well, yeah, those

1755
01:43:24,630 --> 01:43:26,280
guys are hopeless. Now.

1756
01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:28,890
Adam Curry: Now, here's an
interesting clip. And this is

1757
01:43:28,890 --> 01:43:32,130
where your I think this is the
one where you are domain and

1758
01:43:32,130 --> 01:43:33,030
subject expert.

1759
01:43:33,060 --> 01:43:38,310
Unknown: Oh, hahahahaha. You're
saying that in the Clean Water

1760
01:43:38,310 --> 01:43:44,700
Act, rather than the agency like
the EPA, which has experts in

1761
01:43:44,730 --> 01:43:48,930
clean and water? Oh, the Supreme
Court will decide what clean and

1762
01:43:48,930 --> 01:43:50,400
water are? Yes, the

1763
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:54,690
Supreme Court now gets to
overrule the EPA decision on

1764
01:43:54,870 --> 01:43:57,990
what constitutes clean water
where the water is supposed to

1765
01:43:57,990 --> 01:44:02,010
go. It's same with clean air the
EPA, the EPA, the Supreme Court

1766
01:44:02,010 --> 01:44:06,330
now gets to overrule the EPA on
how much carbon monoxide can be

1767
01:44:06,330 --> 01:44:10,260
in the air. How much nitrous
oxide awake, nitrous oxide is

1768
01:44:10,260 --> 01:44:14,730
laughing gas. Nitrogen oxides
are smug and Neil Gorsuch got

1769
01:44:14,730 --> 01:44:17,070
that wrong yesterday.

1770
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:19,920
Adam Curry: So they're trying to
make a point here that Neil

1771
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:24,390
Gorsuch said nitrous oxide,
John, your domain expert.

1772
01:44:25,020 --> 01:44:28,380
Nitrous oxide is not just
laughing gas is it?

1773
01:44:30,750 --> 01:44:33,330
John C Dvorak: Well, it's not
much more I mean, it's a nitrous

1774
01:44:33,330 --> 01:44:38,340
oxide is also used as an oxidant
for drag racers. Yes, I mean,

1775
01:44:38,370 --> 01:44:41,550
it's a very useful gas as a as
an oxidant. And it

1776
01:44:41,550 --> 01:44:43,890
Adam Curry: also creates climate
change.

1777
01:44:45,420 --> 01:44:49,080
John C Dvorak: And nitrous oxide
not so much though. But I will

1778
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:53,250
say this, that the whole idea
that you Okay, so I made a

1779
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:57,270
blunder, he said nitrous oxide.
Somebody should have corrected

1780
01:44:57,270 --> 01:45:02,970
him on that. The idea that At
these guys are all going to

1781
01:45:03,030 --> 01:45:05,340
knuckle under and the Supreme
Court is going to make all these

1782
01:45:05,340 --> 01:45:08,070
decisions is just unbelievable
nonsense.

1783
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:11,100
Adam Curry: Well, this is the
whole point of the counter

1784
01:45:11,190 --> 01:45:16,050
narrative on Chevron deference
is to get rid of the Supreme

1785
01:45:16,050 --> 01:45:16,530
Court,

1786
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,290
Unknown: I feel like the way
this is gonna go is because when

1787
01:45:19,290 --> 01:45:23,430
they did, for instance, the
ruling on bump stocks, Clarence

1788
01:45:23,430 --> 01:45:27,120
Thomas just lifted the
description of bump stocks from

1789
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:32,010
a right wing pro gun
organization and dropped that in

1790
01:45:32,220 --> 01:45:34,650
and said, basically, the people
who said this is not a machine

1791
01:45:34,650 --> 01:45:36,300
gun don't know what they're
talking about, because that

1792
01:45:36,300 --> 01:45:38,970
organization did. Because when
you say the Supreme Court is

1793
01:45:38,970 --> 01:45:42,180
going to now decide, doesn't
that mean the big corporations

1794
01:45:42,180 --> 01:45:45,570
who they like the rich people
that they like, and the right

1795
01:45:45,570 --> 01:45:48,180
wing organizations that they
like, that's really who's going

1796
01:45:48,180 --> 01:45:49,170
to decide, right? Yes,

1797
01:45:49,170 --> 01:45:53,520
it's people who are in Harlan
crows yacht that's allowed to be

1798
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:57,360
in water or not. And look, this
is the this is why they did it.

1799
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,870
Right. The what's going to
happen now, is that any

1800
01:46:00,870 --> 01:46:04,620
regulation, the Supreme Court
likes that will be upheld, and

1801
01:46:04,620 --> 01:46:07,380
any regulation, the Supreme
Court doesn't like that will be

1802
01:46:07,380 --> 01:46:11,100
overturned. And that is what
they told us they could do.

1803
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:13,830
Again, this is not in the
Constitution, though. There's no

1804
01:46:13,830 --> 01:46:17,220
constitutional clause or power
that gives the students a

1805
01:46:17,220 --> 01:46:21,300
Supreme Court this right? They
aggrandized it to themselves,

1806
01:46:21,390 --> 01:46:23,520
and they took it away from the
President, and they took it away

1807
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:24,990
from Congress. It's amazing.

1808
01:46:24,990 --> 01:46:27,420
Adam Curry: They keep saying the
Supreme Court is the courts, not

1809
01:46:27,420 --> 01:46:31,890
just the Supreme Court, the
courts, the courts, you know,

1810
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,530
can now say, Hey, hold on a
second, send this back to

1811
01:46:34,530 --> 01:46:38,100
Congress, make it unambiguous
your order, you know, show us

1812
01:46:38,100 --> 01:46:41,340
the experts. I mean, it's there,
just try it. And again, this is

1813
01:46:41,340 --> 01:46:43,620
going to be inundated with this.

1814
01:46:44,010 --> 01:46:45,330
John C Dvorak: I was gonna
mention that, by the way.

1815
01:46:45,330 --> 01:46:48,450
Nitrous oxide is a greenhouse
gas,

1816
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:53,610
Adam Curry: I told you. It is of
course it is. But the whole the

1817
01:46:53,610 --> 01:46:56,940
John C Dvorak: why, of course,
why would we of course, because

1818
01:46:56,970 --> 01:46:59,220
Adam Curry: these people are too
stupid to even bring that in.

1819
01:47:00,690 --> 01:47:06,450
They think it's only laughing
gas. And then just Neil Gorsuch

1820
01:47:06,450 --> 01:47:09,960
was dope. Oh, he sent it all
wrong.

1821
01:47:12,510 --> 01:47:13,980
John C Dvorak: We're gonna do
well, there's so much in the

1822
01:47:13,980 --> 01:47:14,730
atmosphere.

1823
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:18,090
Adam Curry: Anyway, well, it
doesn't come from burning fossil

1824
01:47:18,090 --> 01:47:19,650
fuels as well. You

1825
01:47:19,650 --> 01:47:24,870
John C Dvorak: get you actually
get you get nitric oxides from

1826
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:29,460
that's why you have a platinum
catalytic converter in your car.

1827
01:47:29,460 --> 01:47:29,640
So

1828
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:31,230
Adam Curry: you don't crack up
laughing?

1829
01:47:32,310 --> 01:47:35,460
John C Dvorak: No, it's like,
no, it's because you get these

1830
01:47:35,460 --> 01:47:39,240
you get really extreme nitric
oxides, including I think,

1831
01:47:39,870 --> 01:47:44,040
nitric oxide, which I mean,
which is, is used to make a

1832
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:49,200
nitric acid with nasty, nasty
acid. And it just goes into and

1833
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:52,260
yeah, you can smell it when
sometimes you get this is a very

1834
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:57,120
sweet, interesting aroma of
nitric, various nitric oxides.

1835
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:01,290
But the one that makes nitric
acid three and both three, I

1836
01:48:01,290 --> 01:48:04,350
think I'm not sure and whatever
the case is that you have to get

1837
01:48:04,350 --> 01:48:06,990
that out of there because it's
nasty. And I guess some nitrous

1838
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:12,180
oxide might come out of the of
the tank. Out of the gas, I

1839
01:48:12,180 --> 01:48:14,580
mean, out of the out of the
engine may be I don't think can

1840
01:48:14,580 --> 01:48:15,510
be that much.

1841
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:17,910
Adam Curry: Anyway, this will be
another talking point and was

1842
01:48:17,910 --> 01:48:21,180
talking point, the Supreme Court
now controls your life that

1843
01:48:21,210 --> 01:48:22,320
that's what they're going to
say.

1844
01:48:22,620 --> 01:48:24,960
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And isn't
it and the Supreme Court is like

1845
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,990
everybody else, they don't want
to do any extra work. Now they

1846
01:48:27,990 --> 01:48:30,930
want to go on vacation sitting
there going oh, yeah, we get to

1847
01:48:30,930 --> 01:48:35,250
Laurie we get to meet the boss.
That's why they're taken. After

1848
01:48:35,250 --> 01:48:39,120
Monday. They're on vacation.
What kind of operation is this?

1849
01:48:39,450 --> 01:48:41,520
Adam Curry: The only thing that
have left is Oh, we got a rule

1850
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:47,010
on that. On that responsibility
thing is can you indemnify the

1851
01:48:47,010 --> 01:48:48,930
president? Ha that's going to be
annoying.

1852
01:48:49,350 --> 01:48:52,200
John C Dvorak: I think they can
put it off again. Ooh.

1853
01:48:53,340 --> 01:48:55,200
Adam Curry: When do they go? Oh,
that's interesting.

1854
01:48:55,440 --> 01:48:57,720
John C Dvorak: Why not just say
oh, after the we'll figure it

1855
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:00,810
out later. We gotta go. We gotta
vacation time. The yacht is

1856
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:06,450
booked at Central Pay. The yacht
is already waiting for me. Yeah.

1857
01:49:06,450 --> 01:49:08,670
And Clarence Thomas says, Yeah,
I got this friend of mine. He's

1858
01:49:08,670 --> 01:49:10,410
got a jet. He's flying me off.
But I gotta leave.

1859
01:49:10,770 --> 01:49:12,720
Adam Curry: I got no time for
that. Oh, that that could be

1860
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:16,290
although it's my understanding.
They will rule on it Monday.

1861
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:18,030
John C Dvorak: Yes. What they
said they're supposed to have

1862
01:49:18,030 --> 01:49:19,770
done it Friday. No,

1863
01:49:19,950 --> 01:49:23,250
Adam Curry: this is a tough one.
Because, you know, if they if

1864
01:49:23,250 --> 01:49:29,040
they say to if they say to
Trump, well, you know, you don't

1865
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,400
have full indemnification. Then
Biden's on the hook to then then

1866
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,790
the whole social Obama with his
kill list. Yeah. Then everything

1867
01:49:35,820 --> 01:49:38,310
then everything. Everybody's on
the hook. They just can't do it.

1868
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:41,880
They can't do it. Hey, with
that, I'd like to thank you for

1869
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:44,520
your courage, Mr. Dvorak. In
fact, I'd like to say in the

1870
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,370
morning to you the man who put
the sea in the clown show say

1871
01:49:47,370 --> 01:49:50,880
hello to my friend on the other
end the one the only Mr. Johnson

1872
01:49:53,610 --> 01:49:55,380
John C Dvorak: in the morning,
Mr. Adam curry in the morning

1873
01:49:55,380 --> 01:49:58,680
all ships to see boots on the
ground, feet in the air. subs in

1874
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:00,720
the water all the names on
knights out there.

1875
01:50:02,100 --> 01:50:02,940
Adam Curry: Troll still

1876
01:50:08,670 --> 01:50:14,250
looks like looks like church
showed up? We got 2516 Trolls

1877
01:50:14,250 --> 01:50:19,050
versus 1863 On the last Sunday
show.

1878
01:50:19,380 --> 01:50:21,810
John C Dvorak: Yes, because of
this debate thing everyone wants

1879
01:50:21,810 --> 01:50:26,610
to hear what we have to say. I
hope we did I got lots of notes.

1880
01:50:26,610 --> 01:50:28,710
Oh, I'm really looking forward
to the show.

1881
01:50:28,770 --> 01:50:31,890
Adam Curry: I hope they they
understand our opinion on this.

1882
01:50:33,420 --> 01:50:35,730
John C Dvorak: I'm not sure we
understand our own opinion but I

1883
01:50:35,730 --> 01:50:36,420
do hope so.

1884
01:50:36,450 --> 01:50:39,630
Adam Curry: I do. I do. I do.
We're looking at the wrong

1885
01:50:39,630 --> 01:50:43,170
people look much higher, much,
much, much higher. You know,

1886
01:50:43,170 --> 01:50:45,660
these people on television,
their friends who are texting

1887
01:50:45,660 --> 01:50:48,150
them and call them they don't
run the show. We all know who

1888
01:50:48,150 --> 01:50:52,650
really runs the show. These
trolls are in the troll room and

1889
01:50:52,650 --> 01:50:56,430
you need to be there. If you're
not aware, that is if you're

1890
01:50:56,430 --> 01:50:59,280
able to listen live I mean, it's
it's a Hootenanny in there, go

1891
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:03,300
to troll room.io, you can listen
to the stream, we also we have a

1892
01:51:03,300 --> 01:51:06,630
24 hour day music show stream
now as well from that page, but

1893
01:51:06,630 --> 01:51:09,870
the one you want is obviously
the no agenda stream. On Sundays

1894
01:51:09,870 --> 01:51:12,930
and Thursdays, there's always
something good going on live. In

1895
01:51:12,930 --> 01:51:16,260
fact, after we're done today,
we've got to some big battle of

1896
01:51:16,260 --> 01:51:19,260
the bands type thing happening,
the satellite skirmish, it's a

1897
01:51:19,260 --> 01:51:24,390
value for value, music
extravaganza. That's a blueberry

1898
01:51:24,420 --> 01:51:29,430
and the homegrown hits ladies.
And you know so you can not only

1899
01:51:29,430 --> 01:51:32,550
listen live, but you can also
join in and troll along it's a

1900
01:51:32,550 --> 01:51:37,530
lot of fun. People love it. You
can also listen to a listen to

1901
01:51:37,530 --> 01:51:40,530
it on our modern podcast app and
chattel on true fans is one you

1902
01:51:40,530 --> 01:51:43,530
can try. can even do a write on
a web browser don't need an app

1903
01:51:43,530 --> 01:51:48,570
for it. We do all this under the
value for value model. We do the

1904
01:51:48,570 --> 01:51:52,590
work, we sit through it all we
collect it, we bring it together

1905
01:51:52,590 --> 01:51:57,000
we bring our collective 200
years of experience to the to

1906
01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:01,590
the party and and try to make
sense of your world. And if you

1907
01:52:01,590 --> 01:52:04,890
find any value in that we'd love
for you to return that value. We

1908
01:52:04,890 --> 01:52:07,410
asked this the value for value
system we asked you to bring it

1909
01:52:07,620 --> 01:52:12,060
in time talent or treasure is a
great example of of our

1910
01:52:12,060 --> 01:52:14,460
constitutional lawyer Rob,
although I know he gives

1911
01:52:14,460 --> 01:52:16,980
treasure as well, but he gives
his time and his talent. I mean,

1912
01:52:16,980 --> 01:52:21,450
he could be working on cases
that he racks up dollars for is

1913
01:52:21,480 --> 01:52:24,660
Believe me, every minute you can
be making money. No. Instead,

1914
01:52:24,900 --> 01:52:28,800
he's working for you for the
show, bringing it to you sending

1915
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:31,500
the value back to us. So we in
turn can give that to you. It's

1916
01:52:31,500 --> 01:52:35,160
great. It just keeps on singing
around this value, time, talent

1917
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:39,030
and treasure. One of the ways
that you the people like to show

1918
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:43,230
their time and talent is by
creating artwork. We have a

1919
01:52:43,230 --> 01:52:47,130
plethora, but really a plethora
of how many artists do we have?

1920
01:52:48,180 --> 01:52:50,520
Is there a way to see that or no
agenda art generated? I don't

1921
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:52,950
think so. I thought I thought
there was isn't there a stat

1922
01:52:52,950 --> 01:52:59,580
somewhere that says yeah, it's
on the homepage 15 100,000 1500

1923
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:06,720
artists have created over 32 and
a half 1000 pieces of art. So

1924
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:12,450
that's why we've had 16 So those
that's 30 times as much as

1925
01:53:12,450 --> 01:53:18,150
episodes. And that's that is
actually true. There's 1510 2030

1926
01:53:18,150 --> 01:53:20,490
pieces of art we get to choose
from right after we're finished

1927
01:53:20,490 --> 01:53:23,850
producing the show, which is
really wonderful. It's not

1928
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:27,870
there's not always an immediate
great choice but there usually

1929
01:53:27,870 --> 01:53:30,570
is a couple that we can look at
and say oh man just look at what

1930
01:53:30,570 --> 01:53:33,270
the look at the time and talent
these people have provided us

1931
01:53:34,380 --> 01:53:41,160
and the artwork for episode 1672
which we titled sand battery was

1932
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:44,610
a very obvious choice it's a no
agenda classic it was black

1933
01:53:44,610 --> 01:53:50,700
knight Parker Polly who brought
us the well now debunked. No

1934
01:53:50,700 --> 01:53:56,550
agenda energy drink the blue ass
as in Donkey debate strength

1935
01:53:56,550 --> 01:54:00,780
energy drink drink or booth it
lasts 90 minutes. And of course

1936
01:54:00,780 --> 01:54:05,070
we thought that was appropriate
for the show. Although turns out

1937
01:54:05,070 --> 01:54:08,220
wasn't appropriate at all.
Because it was none of that none

1938
01:54:08,220 --> 01:54:12,000
of that in use. Let's take a
look at some of the previous

1939
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:13,830
that piece error very

1940
01:54:13,860 --> 01:54:16,380
John C Dvorak: annoying. What's
annoying Oh, that is that we

1941
01:54:16,380 --> 01:54:17,550
didn't have jacked up Joe.

1942
01:54:18,450 --> 01:54:19,500
Adam Curry: Because it would
have been Do you think it would

1943
01:54:19,500 --> 01:54:20,340
have been funnier?

1944
01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:25,680
John C Dvorak: I just think it
had been what we expected it and

1945
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:30,510
they just did the expectation
was like we they shipped us we

1946
01:54:30,510 --> 01:54:31,410
get caught.

1947
01:54:31,740 --> 01:54:33,840
Adam Curry: I'm disappointed. We
didn't figure it out from the

1948
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:35,610
deep from the cheap fake. There

1949
01:54:35,610 --> 01:54:38,280
John C Dvorak: was no way of
figuring it out. There was all

1950
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:41,760
indicators all signs pointed to
jacked up Joe.

1951
01:54:43,050 --> 01:54:48,360
Adam Curry: Yeah. Taunton Neil,
one of our Dutch masters created

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the Talk Talk louder buttons
also based on the debate will be

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01:54:52,770 --> 01:54:57,960
muted mics we had let me see
let's get ready to mumble by

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01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:01,950
damn Kenny Ben, another Dutch
master which was at then we

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01:55:01,950 --> 01:55:03,900
looked at that one we did look
at a number of the sand

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01:55:03,900 --> 01:55:08,220
batteries Taunton Neil again
with a double A battery on a

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01:55:08,220 --> 01:55:11,100
bunch of sand people like the
sand bed. We the one we

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01:55:11,130 --> 01:55:15,810
seriously talked about was dirty
Jersey whore with what was it?

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01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:19,830
Baking America great again with
Uncle Sam sitting in the in the

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oven. I

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01:55:20,190 --> 01:55:22,230
John C Dvorak: use that for the
newsletter. That was a good one.

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01:55:22,230 --> 01:55:22,890
That was fun.

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01:55:24,870 --> 01:55:30,930
Adam Curry: Captain chaos
another sand battery. Biden

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01:55:30,930 --> 01:55:35,130
debate prep with the pillbox the
Silicon Valley bullcrap

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01:55:35,130 --> 01:55:38,220
dictionary. I mean, there was
definitely good, good and

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01:55:38,220 --> 01:55:38,580
usable.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, we had more
than usual number of a more than

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01:55:41,550 --> 01:55:44,610
usual number of submissions.
Yeah, I'm

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01:55:44,610 --> 01:55:46,800
Adam Curry: always looking
forward to what what our artists

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01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:49,560
bring us that is a true example
of time and talent, we

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01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:52,860
appreciate that, that you do
that for us become a no agenda

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01:55:52,860 --> 01:55:56,430
producer. I don't know agenda
donations.com. It doesn't matter

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01:55:56,430 --> 01:55:59,640
what the amount is, if you're
delivering in treasure, as long

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01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,190
as there is an amount that
equals the value that you get

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01:56:02,190 --> 01:56:05,250
out of it. And that is
completely personal. So you

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01:56:05,250 --> 01:56:09,600
determine and I believe are we'd
like to thank our executive and

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01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:11,850
Associate Executive producers at
this point in the show actually

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01:56:11,850 --> 01:56:15,900
a little bit late. But these are
the people who come in $200

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01:56:15,900 --> 01:56:18,030
above, we read your note $300

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01:56:18,210 --> 01:56:19,440
John C Dvorak: talking because I
forgot that

1981
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:24,360
Adam Curry: I'm going we read
your notes and delicate we

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01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:28,980
actually thank everybody above
$50 and under 50 There's a lot

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01:56:28,980 --> 01:56:31,710
of people come in under that for
reasons of anonymity because we

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01:56:31,710 --> 01:56:35,520
will not read anything from you
even your name or location. And

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01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:37,890
there's sustaining donations
which everybody should be able

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01:56:37,890 --> 01:56:41,250
to afford at least once a month.
Can we just a couple dollars

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01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:44,700
again if that's if $5 luck to
you, we're happy and we

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01:56:44,700 --> 01:56:48,900
appreciate that that's how it
works value for value. Our top

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01:56:48,900 --> 01:56:52,590
executive producer who may be a
knight I'm not sure is Sir

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01:56:52,590 --> 01:56:56,220
Ronald Lafferty is from San
Jose, California. comes in with

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01:56:56,220 --> 01:56:58,980
a cool 1000 John, do you have
the note?

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01:56:59,070 --> 01:57:03,690
John C Dvorak: I do have the
know how about that. And you can

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01:57:03,690 --> 01:57:08,010
tell I have it because I can
hear it. It makes the noise of a

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01:57:08,010 --> 01:57:14,040
note. Very short notice cute. I
miss donating for Mother's Day

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01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:17,760
and Father's Day. So have a
happy whatever day you received

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01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:21,930
this. That's John I used to
drink Dr. Pepper back when it

1997
01:57:21,930 --> 01:57:26,460
had real prune juice in it. Not
so much anymore. Sincerely sir

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01:57:26,460 --> 01:57:30,420
Ronald Lafferty now this
interesting. I think that stuff

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01:57:30,420 --> 01:57:33,720
that comes out of Waco the
original Dr. Pepper that is

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01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:36,240
still being manufactured
probably still has the prune

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01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:36,810
juice in it.

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01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:39,270
Adam Curry: Really? I

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01:57:39,270 --> 01:57:43,980
John C Dvorak: would guess makes
you poop makes you lose vibe.

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01:57:44,550 --> 01:57:48,510
Adam Curry: Mixture loose. Hey
man, I'm feeling loose. So no

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01:57:48,510 --> 01:57:50,340
knighthood for him he didn't
request

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01:57:50,340 --> 01:57:53,760
John C Dvorak: the 90s assert he
is of course no a title

2007
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:55,560
Adam Curry: upgrade I mean no he
had no he

2008
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:57,390
John C Dvorak: didn't say
anything about Title upgrade so

2009
01:57:57,390 --> 01:57:59,610
we'll wait for he's the one is
going to tell us let us

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01:57:59,610 --> 01:58:03,540
Adam Curry: know sir Ronald.
Jesper Holmberg Parts Unknown

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01:58:04,020 --> 01:58:09,900
350 94, which I'm thinking I
don't know, is that a 333? With

2012
01:58:09,900 --> 01:58:12,930
some fees added as an
interesting number. He's noticed

2013
01:58:12,930 --> 01:58:17,190
great He says I'll keep this
note shot. And he stops after

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01:58:17,190 --> 01:58:21,270
the are the shortest keeps your
short short note in history.

2015
01:58:22,020 --> 01:58:23,550
Thank you, Jasper. Appreciate
it.

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01:58:24,900 --> 01:58:30,210
John C Dvorak: Okay, onward with
the Taylor, the Sally Vasily

2017
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:36,840
Maselli. Probably the Sally in
Portland. 34375 and I've been

2018
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:41,700
listening since 2009. And I'm
finally in a position to donate

2019
01:58:41,700 --> 01:58:44,520
and that was that is another
short note. And

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01:58:44,580 --> 01:58:47,040
Adam Curry: I'm gonna appreciate
I'm gonna say that's worthy of

2021
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:49,380
deducing that seems like it's
been the first time and we

2022
01:58:49,380 --> 01:58:50,640
appreciate it took you a while.

2023
01:58:52,290 --> 01:58:54,150
Unknown: You've been de deuced

2024
01:58:56,010 --> 01:59:00,150
Adam Curry: 333 dot 33 from G
Burton and Broccoli Broccoli.

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01:59:00,150 --> 01:59:02,850
Great Britain Love Light and
karma. Keep up the excellent

2026
01:59:02,850 --> 01:59:06,810
work. Yo x, is it? These are
great short notes. Love it.

2027
01:59:06,810 --> 01:59:08,880
Thank you. Baronet

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01:59:08,910 --> 01:59:15,330
John C Dvorak: surplus surplus
in Vernon doll Rudan redolence

2029
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:23,220
333 wooden doll de Varun doll.
Doll thank you for your courage

2030
01:59:23,220 --> 01:59:27,180
in the weekly amygdala massage
if I wasn't crazy, I truly go

2031
01:59:27,180 --> 01:59:33,360
insane. Adam, I enjoyed our
brief chat at the meetup where

2032
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:40,290
you were dragged out or off for
some another picture. I had xmR

2033
01:59:40,710 --> 01:59:49,830
yet beckoned moot and hoovered
in from very valid in dog Baron

2034
01:59:50,100 --> 01:59:51,990
surplus surplus. Yes, he

2035
01:59:51,990 --> 01:59:54,270
Adam Curry: says in Dutch hockey
money became moved to Florida

2036
01:59:54,270 --> 01:59:57,600
which translates to you then you
shouldn't have become famous.

2037
01:59:58,740 --> 02:00:03,150
One that's a very typical Will
Dutch thing you wanted to be

2038
02:00:03,150 --> 02:00:07,830
famous? Honestly, that's not how
it works. That's not really how

2039
02:00:07,830 --> 02:00:13,020
it works. I just do shows here's
the indie no agenda tribal meet

2040
02:00:13,020 --> 02:00:16,620
up. They have a meet up report
coming up later from Greenwood

2041
02:00:16,620 --> 02:00:22,470
Indiana. It's always a lot of
people $255 That's usually a

2042
02:00:22,470 --> 02:00:25,770
switcheroo from the raffle
donation indeed switch a new

2043
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:30,360
switcheroo raffle donation on
behalf of Ariel Ashley. So we

2044
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:34,440
are putting that in now. erielle
will get the Associate Executive

2045
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:37,590
Producer chip big thanks to the
indie eignet tribe for the warm

2046
02:00:37,590 --> 02:00:40,440
welcome and the Kickstart to my
dame hood connection is

2047
02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:43,440
protection. And we're thrilled
to now be living in a state with

2048
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:47,370
freedom, good values and the
most no agenda meetings in the

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02:00:47,370 --> 02:00:51,240
world. Please deduce me and
since a baby making karma our

2050
02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:51,480
wish

2051
02:00:53,010 --> 02:01:06,240
John C Dvorak: you've been de
deuced you've got Parma Blake

2052
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:14,370
Michigan, in Chicago Curiously,
the 233 99 and thanks for

2053
02:01:14,370 --> 02:01:19,200
watching the news for me guys.
Here's a row of ducks plus fees.

2054
02:01:19,590 --> 02:01:24,840
locals and travelers look for a
meet up to post for the weekend

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02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:28,290
of July 20 Little girl we're all
gonna die.

2056
02:01:30,630 --> 02:01:35,190
Adam Curry: Ralph Harberger.
Milverton Ontario, Canada 233

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02:01:35,190 --> 02:01:36,720
couldn't talk, I would like to

2058
02:01:38,820 --> 02:01:40,470
Unknown: use ben de douche.

2059
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:46,530
Adam Curry: I was first hitting
them out, get them out by a

2060
02:01:46,530 --> 02:01:52,290
douchebag friend named case or
Casey douchebag. Call after your

2061
02:01:52,290 --> 02:01:55,680
Rogen appearance in 2020 when I
realized that my beautiful

2062
02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:59,550
fiance was turning 33 on a show
day, I knew it was time for this

2063
02:01:59,550 --> 02:02:02,970
douchebag to donate. That
shouldn't be the only reason but

2064
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:06,300
we appreciate it. The value we
provide is where we'd like to

2065
02:02:06,300 --> 02:02:09,870
you to send it back and de
douche. I'd like to thank the

2066
02:02:09,870 --> 02:02:12,900
two of you for the work you do
and the premium content you

2067
02:02:12,900 --> 02:02:16,380
deliver twice weekly. Yes,
indeed. It's premium content all

2068
02:02:16,380 --> 02:02:21,630
the time. No firewalls, no
subscriptions. No hoops, you

2069
02:02:21,630 --> 02:02:25,110
have to jump through none of it.
I like to request a jingle Shut

2070
02:02:25,110 --> 02:02:27,780
up already. It's science
bullshit. Boom. Shakalaka little

2071
02:02:27,780 --> 02:02:31,230
girl my birthday shout out is
this. I'd like to wish my fiance

2072
02:02:31,230 --> 02:02:36,000
Christina a happy 33rd birthday
from her Shotzi thanks, Ralph.

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02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:36,420
Shut

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02:02:36,420 --> 02:02:40,170
Unknown: up already. Science
bullshit.

2075
02:02:44,670 --> 02:02:47,850
John C Dvorak: Pack on
Andreessen in Portland, Oregon.

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02:02:48,660 --> 02:02:53,040
To 1060 page on an atom This is
another donation from my niece

2077
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:57,930
tilde This is switcheroo make a
note who is just she's getting

2078
02:02:57,930 --> 02:03:02,670
baptized this Sunday the 30th in
Bergen, Norway. Double Up karma

2079
02:03:02,670 --> 02:03:04,890
please keep up the good work
hacking.

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02:03:06,120 --> 02:03:08,820
Adam Curry: Andreessen. So do
you think it's just tilde or is

2081
02:03:08,820 --> 02:03:11,340
it tilde to Andreessen because
it's probably not

2082
02:03:11,340 --> 02:03:13,710
John C Dvorak: injuries to this
tilde tilde it is.

2083
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:21,510
Adam Curry: You've got karma.
Eli the coffee guy is in

2084
02:03:21,510 --> 02:03:25,320
Bensenville Illinois 206 30.
That means 200 plus the fees

2085
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:28,050
Thank you brother on the last
two shows. The issue of heat

2086
02:03:28,050 --> 02:03:31,110
warnings came up. I grew up in a
house that had no air

2087
02:03:31,110 --> 02:03:35,100
conditioning summers were hot.
Nowadays most of us are spoiled

2088
02:03:35,100 --> 02:03:38,460
by the luxury of central air.
And when we in turn have a lower

2089
02:03:38,460 --> 02:03:42,210
tolerance for hot weather that
media hysterics don't help heat

2090
02:03:42,210 --> 02:03:45,600
domes polar vortexes and all the
rest of the shock and all terms

2091
02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:50,070
are BS meant to perpetuate
climate fears. Those gambling

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02:03:50,070 --> 02:03:53,700
going on. Summers are supposed
to be hot winters are supposed

2093
02:03:53,700 --> 02:03:56,280
to be cold at least here in the
Midwest. If you're feeling hot

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02:03:56,430 --> 02:04:00,240
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John C Dvorak: Giga lucky lucky
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Adam Curry: coffee roasters.com
use code ITM 20 for 20% off your

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order. Stay caffeinated says Eli
the coffee guy MF

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John C Dvorak: dx of N Xu to a
one and this is just a

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02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:26,970
fascinating a donation. For a
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That's image makers Inc with the

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K or find Linda IUPAC and
Duchess of jobs and writer of

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resumes on the producer list.

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02:04:39,390 --> 02:04:43,050
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, so we
now have other producers sending

2106
02:04:43,050 --> 02:04:44,670
in donations for Linda Lou.

2107
02:04:45,690 --> 02:04:47,970
John C Dvorak: Well, that's what
we just witnessed.

2108
02:04:48,030 --> 02:04:53,640
Adam Curry: I like it. That's
interesting. Actually. Linda

2109
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:58,410
Lewis is somewhat of a
phenomenon now. One of our

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02:04:58,410 --> 02:05:00,630
producers did As for her

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rights is a whole song. This is
just a little bit Great. Yeah,

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there's a whole song you wrote
for the dead guys in Hudson,

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Wisconsin 254. In the morning
gentlemen, my clan and I are all

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eternally grateful for the
amygdala reducing infotainment

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useful faithfully provide. This
is my first donation on my way

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tonight hood please do you do?
You've been de deuced I'm so

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excited about eventually
becoming a night that I named my

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auto dent repair company with
two locations in Austin Texas

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and Hudson Wisconsin. Knights
hail repair. That's knights K N

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I H T and a que ni ght s Hale H
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need that in Austin, you know if
we got it bad, Texas is what he

2122
02:06:04,440 --> 02:06:07,770
says. I'm sure Adam knows how
bad hail storms are in the hill

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02:06:07,770 --> 02:06:11,310
country. You bet. We can fix
dents big and small and domestic

2124
02:06:11,310 --> 02:06:14,520
foreign and even electric
vehicles. Why would you repairs

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are covered by insurance with no
premium increases. How does that

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work on the sly? Please let your
listeners know if they contact

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us or use the discount code ITM
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an exit strategy. It's great.
Um, we have a garage luckily,

2130
02:06:38,010 --> 02:06:40,800
but thank you, man. That's good.
I appreciate that. But what How

2131
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:46,920
bad did the dents get it so bad
that well, how bad is it and

2132
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:49,830
people carry heavy moving
blankets in the trunk of their

2133
02:06:49,830 --> 02:06:54,690
car just in case because it will
ruin your car. Although you can

2134
02:06:54,690 --> 02:06:58,980
go to the dent guy apparently.
Yeah, it is knights, Knights

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02:06:58,980 --> 02:07:04,350
hale.com and get it fixed. But
now it's a director in this even

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02:07:05,250 --> 02:07:09,060
damages metal roofs. I mean,
they're big. You'd not want to

2137
02:07:09,060 --> 02:07:12,210
have your vehicle stuck in a
hailstorm in Texas strictly the

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nail and the hill country the
hill country

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John C Dvorak: I just think is
weird. Linda LAPACK and there

2140
02:07:19,590 --> 02:07:22,110
she is she's still here. I
thought she maybe should pass it

2141
02:07:22,110 --> 02:07:24,750
off to the other guy but no, he
she's the Lakewood Colorado and

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once jobs karma came over $200
There's no debate about it. For

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a resume that gets results go to
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writer of resumes jobs,

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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Jobs.

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02:07:49,260 --> 02:07:52,170
Adam Curry: And our final exec
Associate Executive Producer

2149
02:07:52,170 --> 02:07:57,510
with $200 is Mark Hedwig from
Alito, Texas. 200 IDM. Keep it

2150
02:07:57,510 --> 02:08:01,350
up Mark Hardwick Aledo, Texas.
And that includes our executive

2151
02:08:01,350 --> 02:08:05,010
and Associate Executive
producers for episode 1673.

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These are credits that just like
any show business product are

2153
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,000
official, you can use them
anywhere credits are recognized.

2154
02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:14,430
Put them in your LinkedIn
profile, your social media

2155
02:08:14,430 --> 02:08:18,090
profile, your business cards,
your letterhead in your email

2156
02:08:18,090 --> 02:08:21,540
signature. And if you if you
want to make it even more

2157
02:08:21,540 --> 02:08:24,450
official, go to imdb.com. And
you can open an account if you

2158
02:08:24,450 --> 02:08:27,150
don't have one already. And you
can get yourself listed there as

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02:08:27,150 --> 02:08:30,480
an Associate Executive producer
or an executive producer of the

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no agenda show. You'll see that
hundreds, probably I got a count

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of I think it's more than 1000
people have their credits listed

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there. And yeah, so whenever
you're, you know, it's a pickup

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line now I'm an executive
producer. Oh, really? Yeah.

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Check me out on imdb.com. What,
what is that? Oh, take a look.

2165
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Some of the other people there's
some like heavy hitters like

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02:08:50,130 --> 02:08:55,320
Dana Brunetti. What? That's
right, guaranteed to work. And

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02:08:55,320 --> 02:08:58,320
thank you to all of these
executive producers will be

2168
02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:02,040
thanking more people in our
second segment $50 and above and

2169
02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:05,130
again, thank you to anybody who
supports us in any way

2170
02:09:05,130 --> 02:09:09,510
whatsoever time talent or
treasure. You did it you produce

2171
02:09:09,510 --> 02:09:10,650
1673 Our

2172
02:09:10,650 --> 02:09:15,090
Unknown: formula is this. We go
out for people in the mouth

2173
02:09:28,770 --> 02:09:30,480
Adam Curry: no agenda
donations.com.

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02:09:33,990 --> 02:09:36,750
John C Dvorak: I have a screwy
clip I'd like to get out of

2175
02:09:36,750 --> 02:09:39,390
here. You're just filled with
screwy clips today. I know

2176
02:09:39,390 --> 02:09:43,980
today's scurry clip did for me
screwy clip day. This is Bill

2177
02:09:43,980 --> 02:09:52,440
Maher with Tulsi Gabbard and
Chris Matthews. After hours this

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02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:56,070
is not on the show is on the
webcast. Do

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02:09:56,070 --> 02:09:58,680
Adam Curry: they do that on see
at CNN the after hours are only

2180
02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:00,600
on the web. So

2181
02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:05,340
John C Dvorak: I've get it off
to YouTube. So I think the web,

2182
02:10:05,670 --> 02:10:10,440
I don't think CNN knows how to
do it. And this would really

2183
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:13,080
kind of cough caught me off
guard, because I did not expect

2184
02:10:13,080 --> 02:10:16,050
any of this. And I don't think
Mark expected the answer from

2185
02:10:16,050 --> 02:10:20,580
Tulsi. And, and it's about
Julian Assange and was a good

2186
02:10:20,580 --> 02:10:23,730
guy or a bad guy. And I was
actually kind of surprised by

2187
02:10:23,730 --> 02:10:24,690
this. Okay,

2188
02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:27,330
Adam Curry: now that Wikileaks
founder, Julian Assange, Oh,

2189
02:10:27,360 --> 02:10:33,960
good. Let's get to this. I mean,
so as pled guilty to espionage

2190
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:36,330
and secured his freedom, I
didn't see this coming. By the

2191
02:10:36,330 --> 02:10:39,660
way, I didn't think he'd ever
get out. What will his legacy

2192
02:10:39,660 --> 02:10:44,250
be? Yes, I'm served. Time
served, he served six years. And

2193
02:10:44,250 --> 02:10:47,220
that's pretty getting their term
and his legacy. And that's what

2194
02:10:47,220 --> 02:10:50,490
I want to know. Is he a heroic
Crusader exposing government

2195
02:10:50,490 --> 02:10:54,450
lies? Or he is a reckless
trader? Who was endangering our

2196
02:10:54,480 --> 02:10:55,020
freedom?

2197
02:10:55,110 --> 02:10:57,360
Unknown: Yeah. I mean, it
depends who you ask. I think

2198
02:10:57,360 --> 02:11:00,930
that the more Mexican you have
been, I mean, I think that he

2199
02:11:00,930 --> 02:11:05,400
is, he is an example of of the
his prosecution, the charges

2200
02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:08,790
against him, are one of the
biggest attacks on freedom of

2201
02:11:08,790 --> 02:11:10,650
the press that we've seen and
freedom.

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02:11:14,070 --> 02:11:14,880
Go the other way.

2203
02:11:18,420 --> 02:11:21,360
Ellsberg looks very good right
now. And what he did, and the

2204
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:24,150
Pentagon Papers was about how
the Kennedy administration and

2205
02:11:24,150 --> 02:11:27,210
Johnson administration, not
Nixon, what they did the lie

2206
02:11:27,210 --> 02:11:27,900
about the war?

2207
02:11:28,200 --> 02:11:30,120
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
all the particulars. I mean,

2208
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:32,760
you'd have to really spend
months and months going through

2209
02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:37,560
the amount of put stuff he put
out. But in general, I think the

2210
02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:40,110
world is full of bad people.
Like I was saying to Ray, the

2211
02:11:40,110 --> 02:11:44,190
world's full of bad people. And
yeah, I think sometimes you need

2212
02:11:44,190 --> 02:11:48,900
somebody to put the hammer down.
I think Obama said this, and

2213
02:11:48,900 --> 02:11:54,630
just say, I'm sorry, you can't
expose our secret agents. And we

2214
02:11:54,630 --> 02:11:58,470
have to think of our security
first. I mean, yes, I'm sure the

2215
02:11:58,470 --> 02:12:02,610
government does some gnarly
things. But I don't like this. I

2216
02:12:02,610 --> 02:12:06,630
don't like a guy who pretends
that he's the patriot, when it's

2217
02:12:06,630 --> 02:12:10,020
the spies out there who are
protecting this country, not

2218
02:12:10,020 --> 02:12:12,660
Julian Assange, because there
are

2219
02:12:12,660 --> 02:12:15,390
Unknown: people who wants to
destroy this country.

2220
02:12:16,380 --> 02:12:18,870
Adam Curry: And there are people
who are plotting to get nuclear

2221
02:12:18,870 --> 02:12:22,380
weapons and all the rest of it.
And this guy is not the one

2222
02:12:22,380 --> 02:12:25,170
who's who's who made sure that
we have not really been attacked

2223
02:12:25,170 --> 02:12:27,870
since 911. Oh, brother.

2224
02:12:28,890 --> 02:12:31,440
John C Dvorak: Tell me about it.
And by the way, I want to ask, I

2225
02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:35,580
would just ask a rhetorical
question about Julian Assange

2226
02:12:35,580 --> 02:12:41,580
being a traitor. He's not an
American. How is he a traitor?

2227
02:12:41,640 --> 02:12:43,740
How do you How can you be a
traitor? If you're like a

2228
02:12:43,740 --> 02:12:45,090
Russian, for example,

2229
02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:48,210
Adam Curry: right, you're trying
to put intelligence into Bill

2230
02:12:48,210 --> 02:12:52,560
Maher's head, which I just can't
go along with. He is one of the

2231
02:12:52,560 --> 02:12:55,620
most uninformed people on
television. He really only reads

2232
02:12:55,620 --> 02:13:01,200
the New York Times. He really
knows nothing. He seems like a

2233
02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:04,170
nice guy to smoke a doobie with
which I don't do anymore. But

2234
02:13:04,230 --> 02:13:09,390
otherwise now. He's just he's,
he's ill informed. I saw the I

2235
02:13:09,420 --> 02:13:13,440
did see the show with with
Tulsi. She actually is the one

2236
02:13:14,100 --> 02:13:17,430
she brought up. Well, Biden has
the nuclear code. She was the

2237
02:13:17,430 --> 02:13:21,960
first one to say it. I thought
that was interesting. She's kind

2238
02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:25,050
of vapid. I'm not quite sure.
What is she doing?

2239
02:13:26,700 --> 02:13:30,360
John C Dvorak: She's showing up
on a lot of talk shows. I don't

2240
02:13:30,360 --> 02:13:33,870
know what she's what she's doing
for a living. Yeah, that is talk

2241
02:13:33,870 --> 02:13:36,150
shows camp, they you know,
they're paid minimum wage, if

2242
02:13:36,150 --> 02:13:38,340
Adam Curry: anything, nothing
you get nothing for appearing on

2243
02:13:38,340 --> 02:13:39,660
those shows. But

2244
02:13:39,660 --> 02:13:43,080
John C Dvorak: you can get some
things. Maybe CNBC shows a

2245
02:13:43,740 --> 02:13:44,490
challenge every time.

2246
02:13:44,850 --> 02:13:47,550
Adam Curry: Okay, those were the
days when he got our money in a

2247
02:13:47,550 --> 02:13:50,880
brown paper bag. We had 24 hour
day Limo Service cable was

2248
02:13:50,880 --> 02:13:54,570
rockin baby. Those days are
over, whatever those days are

2249
02:13:54,570 --> 02:14:00,180
over. No, no, no, no, no. No,
no. She's I think she has some

2250
02:14:00,180 --> 02:14:05,520
kind of foundation or something.
I don't know. You know what? I

2251
02:14:05,520 --> 02:14:08,220
was just seeing her sitting
there. I'm like, wow, could she

2252
02:14:08,220 --> 02:14:10,410
be a Trump vice presidential
candidate?

2253
02:14:11,340 --> 02:14:13,590
John C Dvorak: Did people have
suggested it?

2254
02:14:14,610 --> 02:14:17,070
Adam Curry: Just kind of hit me.
Not that it's something I took

2255
02:14:17,070 --> 02:14:20,160
seriously, but it did enter my
mind. Like why we're on

2256
02:14:20,160 --> 02:14:22,080
John C Dvorak: the topic. We
should discuss at least our

2257
02:14:22,080 --> 02:14:26,640
theories on who's going to be
the vice presidential candidate.

2258
02:14:27,060 --> 02:14:30,300
And I'm really good at this
because I nailed that I got

2259
02:14:30,300 --> 02:14:34,530
through. I'm the one who picked
the Alaskan woman at way in

2260
02:14:34,530 --> 02:14:38,430
advance. Alaska. I'm telling
you, I have no idea who's

2261
02:14:38,430 --> 02:14:43,830
Trump's gonna pick on this one.
Is it woody pig? Byron Donald,

2262
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:47,850
who I think is the superstar of
that group. Because he talks

2263
02:14:48,270 --> 02:14:52,470
like a champ and he's just got
the good looking and he's got an

2264
02:14:52,470 --> 02:14:56,160
mean spirited just what you
want. And I

2265
02:14:56,160 --> 02:14:59,220
Adam Curry: want that guy from
what's that? What's the black

2266
02:14:59,220 --> 02:15:04,980
guy? Michigan. No, not Michigan,
Missouri. Who's that guy?

2267
02:15:06,089 --> 02:15:08,099
John C Dvorak: But black guy
from Missouri. Yeah, he's

2268
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:09,630
Adam Curry: like a He's almost
like a preacher.

2269
02:15:09,930 --> 02:15:12,720
John C Dvorak: We played a clip
from him using it but the North

2270
02:15:12,720 --> 02:15:13,770
Carolina No, I'm

2271
02:15:13,770 --> 02:15:15,930
Adam Curry: sorry, North
Carolina. That's it. Yeah. Yeah,

2272
02:15:15,930 --> 02:15:16,110
he

2273
02:15:16,110 --> 02:15:17,820
John C Dvorak: is he I think he
is a preacher.

2274
02:15:18,060 --> 02:15:18,720
Adam Curry: There you go. I

2275
02:15:18,720 --> 02:15:21,150
John C Dvorak: like that.
There's no that guy has to that

2276
02:15:21,150 --> 02:15:24,630
guy is out there. There's no
way. What's that guy? What's his

2277
02:15:24,630 --> 02:15:26,220
name? Like? Unbelievable.

2278
02:15:26,280 --> 02:15:28,740
Adam Curry: I love that guy.
He's fantastic. He's

2279
02:15:28,740 --> 02:15:29,460
entertaining.

2280
02:15:31,830 --> 02:15:34,560
John C Dvorak: And then you have
the JD Vance, which a lot of

2281
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:35,910
people think he's gonna get it.

2282
02:15:36,570 --> 02:15:39,780
Adam Curry: But he's kind of I
mean, I don't like him. I think

2283
02:15:39,780 --> 02:15:42,480
John C Dvorak: he's like he's
like a pants warmed over pence.

2284
02:15:43,140 --> 02:15:45,780
Adam Curry: warmed over pence.
That's almost a show title.

2285
02:15:45,810 --> 02:15:46,410
Thank

2286
02:15:46,980 --> 02:15:51,180
John C Dvorak: warmed over pence
little long and. And then of

2287
02:15:51,180 --> 02:15:53,430
course, the VEC. Everyone's
there's a bunch of people that

2288
02:15:53,430 --> 02:15:56,190
actually think he's a viable
candidate, and it's possible

2289
02:15:56,190 --> 02:15:59,130
that Trump would pick him. He's
very talkative.

2290
02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:01,710
Adam Curry: He is. He is the guy
who shows up everywhere. He's at

2291
02:16:01,710 --> 02:16:04,050
Mar a Lago. He's always hanging
out.

2292
02:16:04,110 --> 02:16:07,410
John C Dvorak: He's always he's
a he's a he's a. What do you

2293
02:16:07,410 --> 02:16:11,550
call a groupie? Is a Trump group
the extra group and kiss ass?

2294
02:16:11,670 --> 02:16:16,800
Adam Curry: How about? Here's
one off the wall. How about how

2295
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:25,830
about the author's name? The
general the? The Q guy. Lynn

2296
02:16:25,860 --> 02:16:27,570
Flynn. Yeah. Flynn.

2297
02:16:27,810 --> 02:16:30,390
John C Dvorak: He's been he's
been disgraced.

2298
02:16:31,080 --> 02:16:33,270
Adam Curry: Mark Robinson.
That's what I'm thinking about.

2299
02:16:33,810 --> 02:16:34,710
This. Yeah.

2300
02:16:35,640 --> 02:16:38,370
John C Dvorak: This is a
character this guy. Fantastic.

2301
02:16:38,370 --> 02:16:40,830
Fantastic. How's everybody
doing? Good.

2302
02:16:42,120 --> 02:16:43,920
Unknown: Barry, first thing
we're gonna do as always, we're

2303
02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:47,730
gonna give thanks to our Lord
and Savior, Jesus Christ. Are

2304
02:16:47,730 --> 02:16:51,960
their reporters in this room
somewhere? I can't see through

2305
02:16:51,960 --> 02:16:57,150
the light. The mainstream media
here. If you're here, I want you

2306
02:16:57,150 --> 02:17:02,100
to hear this. Hear me. I don't
care what you say about me. I

2307
02:17:02,100 --> 02:17:05,430
don't care what you do in your
newsroom. I don't care about

2308
02:17:05,430 --> 02:17:09,300
your plans and your Steen's to
bring this nation down with your

2309
02:17:09,300 --> 02:17:13,470
Democratic friends. Why? Because
Jesus Christ is still on the

2310
02:17:13,470 --> 02:17:18,930
throne. Why you liking that guy?

2311
02:17:19,140 --> 02:17:24,210
Adam Curry: That guy? I like
that guy. That's my pick. Well,

2312
02:17:24,210 --> 02:17:26,190
John C Dvorak: he's not getting
it. So you might as well give up

2313
02:17:26,190 --> 02:17:29,700
on that. The other
possibilities. There's a couple

2314
02:17:29,700 --> 02:17:33,930
of the, you know, Kristi, Noem,
we had talked about with the

2315
02:17:33,930 --> 02:17:38,400
daughter she killed herself out
the dog killer wisely. She

2316
02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:40,950
wisely took herself out. A lot
of people don't realize that

2317
02:17:40,950 --> 02:17:46,410
until you tell them. That's the
reason for the dog's story. So

2318
02:17:46,410 --> 02:17:49,860
she's done and there's one other
Is there any other women that

2319
02:17:49,890 --> 02:17:54,450
could possibly be picked? Tulsi
Tulsi Tulsi is not on the

2320
02:17:54,480 --> 02:17:55,740
shortlist while she's on

2321
02:17:55,740 --> 02:17:58,890
Adam Curry: my shortlist. Just
because no one pence wasn't on

2322
02:17:58,890 --> 02:18:03,720
anybody's list either. I agree.
Nobody knew in blue. No one knew

2323
02:18:03,720 --> 02:18:09,030
about pens. No, but there's no
indication he was supposed to be

2324
02:18:09,030 --> 02:18:12,960
in the room. Well, they all were
in the room. But I will tell us

2325
02:18:12,960 --> 02:18:15,270
he wasn't was to see the room? I
don't think so. No, no

2326
02:18:15,270 --> 02:18:17,280
John C Dvorak: till she wasn't
in the room because Tulsi is not

2327
02:18:17,280 --> 02:18:18,600
considered being considered.

2328
02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:23,490
Adam Curry: Was that was that?
Was Robinson in the room? That's

2329
02:18:23,490 --> 02:18:24,120
my guy. Right?

2330
02:18:24,120 --> 02:18:25,770
John C Dvorak: No, he's not in
the room.

2331
02:18:26,879 --> 02:18:29,189
Adam Curry: On the on the
separation of church and state

2332
02:18:29,189 --> 02:18:33,929
for a moment CBS had this
report. Looking at the First

2333
02:18:33,929 --> 02:18:38,459
Amendment, I although I think
it's a great idea. I don't think

2334
02:18:38,459 --> 02:18:43,079
that the state was that Alabama
or Tennessee who wants to

2335
02:18:43,169 --> 02:18:47,039
Louisiana who want to put the 10
commandments in every classroom.

2336
02:18:47,279 --> 02:18:50,879
I understand it. But this idea,
I think is something that is

2337
02:18:50,879 --> 02:18:55,559
interesting, and could be a very
interesting counter to the end.

2338
02:18:55,559 --> 02:19:01,619
I've seen some of these books,
you know, the, the trans and gay

2339
02:19:01,619 --> 02:19:04,049
books that they have in the
libraries now that they've been

2340
02:19:04,049 --> 02:19:07,169
putting everywhere. This is an
interesting counter to that

2341
02:19:07,200 --> 02:19:09,990
Unknown: Oklahoma State School
Superintendent Ryan Walters

2342
02:19:10,110 --> 02:19:14,460
directed public schools to use
the Bible as a teaching tool for

2343
02:19:14,460 --> 02:19:17,400
students in fifth through 12th
grade when they're being taught

2344
02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:20,940
history or Civilization and its
influence on the US

2345
02:19:20,940 --> 02:19:24,690
Constitution. Walter said this
state may supply teaching

2346
02:19:24,690 --> 02:19:28,830
materials at taxpayer expense,
adding strict compliance is

2347
02:19:28,830 --> 02:19:32,040
expected. The State Attorney
General's office told me it

2348
02:19:32,040 --> 02:19:35,280
doesn't see the memo as a
mandate and pointed to state law

2349
02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:38,940
saying that lessons and textbook
choices are made locally by

2350
02:19:38,940 --> 02:19:42,390
districts. Critics say Walters
can't use state money to buy

2351
02:19:42,390 --> 02:19:45,600
Bibles and expect his move to be
challenged in court.

2352
02:19:46,170 --> 02:19:47,820
Adam Curry: I've been reading
this thing called that someone

2353
02:19:47,820 --> 02:19:51,930
gave me this the founders Bible
which has all these historical

2354
02:19:51,930 --> 02:19:56,130
documents from the founding of
the country, the original, you

2355
02:19:56,130 --> 02:20:00,180
know the pilgrims and and all
these writings from all over at

2356
02:20:00,180 --> 02:20:04,320
the signing of the Declaration,
the Constitution, there's

2357
02:20:04,350 --> 02:20:07,650
there's some valid points there
as a historical document is

2358
02:20:07,650 --> 02:20:08,460
pretty good.

2359
02:20:11,849 --> 02:20:15,509
John C Dvorak: Well, I will tell
you this. So when I was a cow,

2360
02:20:16,259 --> 02:20:21,419
and I was taking I think it was
a probably a junior. Yeah, maybe

2361
02:20:21,569 --> 02:20:24,239
where I might have been a
senior. And I was taking a

2362
02:20:24,239 --> 02:20:27,599
seminar from Winthrop Jordan,
very famous writer at National

2363
02:20:27,599 --> 02:20:29,999
Book Award for a book just came
out as he was giving this

2364
02:20:29,999 --> 02:20:33,659
seminar is called a white over
black, very famous book,

2365
02:20:33,689 --> 02:20:37,409
National Book Award winner. And
he made it just made an

2366
02:20:37,559 --> 02:20:42,029
offhanded comment. As I was
majoring in history, he says,

2367
02:20:42,059 --> 02:20:45,719
You can't understand American
history unless you read the

2368
02:20:45,719 --> 02:20:51,029
bible cover to cover. And it was
this book wasn't about the Bible

2369
02:20:51,029 --> 02:20:55,439
was about race relations, a pre
pre Civil War race relations,

2370
02:20:55,799 --> 02:20:59,219
but it but that comment always
stuck with me as well. You know,

2371
02:20:59,219 --> 02:21:03,089
there's probably some truth to
that and people who you know,

2372
02:21:03,089 --> 02:21:05,879
poopoo like you, for example,
just promoting it from a

2373
02:21:05,879 --> 02:21:10,259
religious perspective. Wrong.
Consider it wrong as wrong. I

2374
02:21:10,259 --> 02:21:14,429
should. Okay. Finish. Let me
finish my point.

2375
02:21:14,460 --> 02:21:15,780
Adam Curry: Don't throw that at
me.

2376
02:21:16,860 --> 02:21:21,900
John C Dvorak: Let me finish my
I'm just telling you seem so. So

2377
02:21:22,230 --> 02:21:25,680
because, for example, that clip
you played that character in

2378
02:21:25,680 --> 02:21:28,770
North Carolina, there are better
clips than that one.

2379
02:21:29,010 --> 02:21:30,990
Adam Curry: That's the only one
I could get right off. There was

2380
02:21:30,990 --> 02:21:33,390
an old clip from three weeks
ago.

2381
02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:38,730
John C Dvorak: So the point is,
is that demerit the Bible is not

2382
02:21:38,760 --> 02:21:43,950
a neutralized meaningless
religious only text. If you're

2383
02:21:43,950 --> 02:21:47,910
studying American history, you
could do worse, at least to help

2384
02:21:47,910 --> 02:21:52,140
you understand some of the stuff
that goes on to read the Bible.

2385
02:21:52,140 --> 02:21:56,430
I don't think it's a big deal to
do that. And I think mentioning

2386
02:21:56,430 --> 02:21:59,640
that that Bible that you discuss
might actually be a good thing.

2387
02:21:59,910 --> 02:22:00,180
That's

2388
02:22:00,180 --> 02:22:03,090
Adam Curry: my point is I didn't
say it for any religious or

2389
02:22:03,150 --> 02:22:03,990
faith based

2390
02:22:04,110 --> 02:22:06,210
John C Dvorak: on that note, But
your point is well taken. I'm

2391
02:22:06,210 --> 02:22:12,450
just saying, it seems to me that
you're catering to your

2392
02:22:12,480 --> 02:22:13,980
religious followers.

2393
02:22:14,070 --> 02:22:17,550
Adam Curry: No, no, I
specifically said the founders

2394
02:22:17,550 --> 02:22:18,450
Bible, which

2395
02:22:18,600 --> 02:22:22,680
John C Dvorak: relates, yeah,
no. Probably a good book. So

2396
02:22:22,680 --> 02:22:25,200
Adam Curry: I'm talking as an
American about the founding of

2397
02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:28,920
America exactly what that smart
guy said. Well, you took the

2398
02:22:28,920 --> 02:22:29,580
course from

2399
02:22:31,170 --> 02:22:34,050
John C Dvorak: Yes, that's why I
was agreeing with you. I was I'm

2400
02:22:34,050 --> 02:22:36,690
in a total agreement with you. I
don't know why you're, why

2401
02:22:36,690 --> 02:22:38,040
you're attacking me.

2402
02:22:38,130 --> 02:22:40,620
Adam Curry: I'm not attacking.
You said that. I did that just

2403
02:22:40,620 --> 02:22:44,220
from my followers from my
religious followers. Yeah, I

2404
02:22:44,220 --> 02:22:47,610
don't virtue signal, bro. I'm
telling it like it is. It's a

2405
02:22:47,610 --> 02:22:51,210
good version. It has interest.
It has a lot of interesting

2406
02:22:51,210 --> 02:22:54,090
texts from the founding
documents and you can see where

2407
02:22:54,090 --> 02:22:57,240
they got it from, because they
quote the Bible is historical

2408
02:22:57,240 --> 02:23:00,270
document. I think that's a very
valid thing to do. We agree on

2409
02:23:00,270 --> 02:23:00,600
that.

2410
02:23:02,280 --> 02:23:03,990
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so I don't
think the Oklahoma thing is a

2411
02:23:03,990 --> 02:23:08,610
bad thing. Unless it's taught as
a lesser teaching religion,

2412
02:23:08,610 --> 02:23:12,720
which is not the idea. No, it's
to use the Bible as a basis for

2413
02:23:12,720 --> 02:23:15,000
understanding Yeah, that's

2414
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:16,170
Unknown: exactly what I agree
with.

2415
02:23:17,670 --> 02:23:21,090
Adam Curry: So we have an
election coming up in the UK on

2416
02:23:21,090 --> 02:23:26,040
the Fourth of July interesting
date for them to choose that and

2417
02:23:26,040 --> 02:23:28,980
already there's lots of cut
well, first of all people are

2418
02:23:29,040 --> 02:23:33,540
are so I guess they're a
pathetic about it. They would

2419
02:23:33,540 --> 02:23:35,790
have Oh, well. Oh, well,
Labour's gonna

2420
02:23:35,790 --> 02:23:38,070
John C Dvorak: get they're gonna
give the government back to the

2421
02:23:38,190 --> 02:23:39,630
Labour Party.

2422
02:23:39,660 --> 02:23:43,380
Adam Curry: Nigel Farage is out
there with his with his What is

2423
02:23:43,380 --> 02:23:45,090
it the Freedom party? What does
he think as

2424
02:23:45,090 --> 02:23:48,870
John C Dvorak: a Reform Party or
the new is guy he's created a

2425
02:23:48,870 --> 02:23:52,020
new party and he's got lots of
traction that guy. I want to

2426
02:23:52,050 --> 02:23:55,980
just make it off to just kind of
a side comment here. Reform

2427
02:23:55,980 --> 02:24:00,690
Party is what it is. Yeah, the
Reform Party. So we had spotted

2428
02:24:00,690 --> 02:24:07,380
Nigel Farage probably 12 years
ago 13 years ago on this show as

2429
02:24:07,380 --> 02:24:10,230
a character that was worth
following because he had these

2430
02:24:10,230 --> 02:24:15,180
great speeches at the parliament
Yeah. And we got note after note

2431
02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:20,580
from our Brits saying this guy's
of no gonna go nowhere. You guys

2432
02:24:20,580 --> 02:24:24,390
are idiots. You shouldn't be
paying any attention to him at

2433
02:24:24,390 --> 02:24:29,850
all. Well, let's see. 15 almost
15 years later, this guy still

2434
02:24:29,880 --> 02:24:33,180
very important. We happen to be
on top of it. Remember

2435
02:24:33,180 --> 02:24:35,130
Adam Curry: when they tried to
kill him in the plane crash?

2436
02:24:36,750 --> 02:24:38,850
John C Dvorak: Do you remember
that? Yeah, it

2437
02:24:38,850 --> 02:24:41,550
Adam Curry: didn't work. You've
been around. So anyway, channel

2438
02:24:41,550 --> 02:24:45,150
four did this this massive hit
piece on him they went

2439
02:24:45,150 --> 02:24:49,020
undercover and they discovered
this all kinds of racists in his

2440
02:24:49,020 --> 02:24:50,220
part A cleave

2441
02:24:50,220 --> 02:24:53,550
Unknown: gone undercover inside
Nigel Farage is reform UK

2442
02:24:53,550 --> 02:24:57,210
campaign in Clapton. And we
recorded extremely offensive

2443
02:24:57,210 --> 02:25:00,780
language, including this
canvasser saying People seeking

2444
02:25:00,780 --> 02:25:02,400
asylum should be shocked.

2445
02:25:07,649 --> 02:25:12,269
Showing the racist language was
repeatedly used here directed at

2446
02:25:12,269 --> 02:25:18,839
the prime minister Rishi Sunak
and homophobia from Ferraris

2447
02:25:18,869 --> 02:25:22,679
inner circle, generate flag on
the front corner of the

2448
02:25:22,769 --> 02:25:23,339
building.

2449
02:25:28,860 --> 02:25:31,710
My objective is for us to become
the

2450
02:25:31,710 --> 02:25:32,880
John C Dvorak: voice of
opposition.

2451
02:25:33,240 --> 02:25:37,680
Unknown: He's promised a
political revolution Nigel

2452
02:25:37,680 --> 02:25:41,580
Farage claims to speak for the
forgotten many, the self styled

2453
02:25:41,580 --> 02:25:43,110
leader of the People's Army

2454
02:25:44,010 --> 02:25:47,730
open up the borders to mass
immigration law we've never seen

2455
02:25:47,730 --> 02:25:49,200
before. This is the

2456
02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:53,280
image reform UK wants to portray
and yet some of the party's

2457
02:25:53,280 --> 02:25:57,810
candidates have been accused of
racism and extremism. So

2458
02:25:57,870 --> 02:25:58,050
Adam Curry: the

2459
02:25:58,050 --> 02:26:00,420
John C Dvorak: guy out yeah, I'm
gonna give you a clip.

2460
02:26:00,690 --> 02:26:04,170
Borderline Clip of the Day for
digging now went up. Wow,

2461
02:26:04,530 --> 02:26:07,500
Adam Curry: that is so
unexpected that I didn't even

2462
02:26:07,500 --> 02:26:08,520
ever released.

2463
02:26:10,470 --> 02:26:14,040
John C Dvorak: But the fact that
they'd run a hit piece on me, I

2464
02:26:14,040 --> 02:26:18,420
mean, you can go to the Democrat
Party. And I mean, O'Keefe does

2465
02:26:18,420 --> 02:26:23,160
this all the time, and you can
go to any group, and it's like

2466
02:26:23,190 --> 02:26:25,410
the man on the street
interviews, you can make

2467
02:26:25,440 --> 02:26:27,840
everyone sound like idiots. You
can make everyone sound like

2468
02:26:27,840 --> 02:26:30,720
geniuses. You can do whatever
you want. This is all

2469
02:26:30,720 --> 02:26:34,200
manipulation. Well, sure. I'm
sure there's more than a few

2470
02:26:34,200 --> 02:26:39,000
racists who hates Sunak and
there's plenty of racism in the

2471
02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:42,870
Democrat party here and the
Republican Party here and, and

2472
02:26:42,870 --> 02:26:46,530
in the Black Lives Matter,
people. I mean, you can't get

2473
02:26:46,530 --> 02:26:50,670
away from it. But to create a
phony baloney hit piece based on

2474
02:26:50,670 --> 02:26:55,200
this, just gambling going on
surprises. bullcrap. Even

2475
02:26:55,200 --> 02:26:56,010
Adam Curry: better than that.

2476
02:26:56,040 --> 02:27:00,090
Unknown: PAC money is a massive
route a reform UK canvasser uses

2477
02:27:00,090 --> 02:27:03,420
racist slurs against the prime
minister and a large chunk of

2478
02:27:03,420 --> 02:27:08,520
the population isn't it terrible
facts. He is an actor, even

2479
02:27:08,520 --> 02:27:11,940
though he denied it when he was
questioned over it. First thing

2480
02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:16,230
this morning fact. He has a
website on which he advertises

2481
02:27:16,260 --> 02:27:22,170
things such as under cover
filming. He is, by all accounts

2482
02:27:22,200 --> 02:27:25,950
a very well spoken man whose
Alter Ego is speaking Carpani.

2483
02:27:25,950 --> 02:27:28,170
Well, when I met him on
Saturday, he was speaking

2484
02:27:28,170 --> 02:27:31,020
company when he walked in first
thing in the morning. The whole

2485
02:27:31,020 --> 02:27:36,660
thing was an act from the very
beginning. He's also done work

2486
02:27:36,690 --> 02:27:40,320
for Channel Four in the past. If
you can't see it, well, I can

2487
02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:43,890
certainly see I'm sure you can
too. This is a complete and

2488
02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:49,290
utter set up determined to
damage the revolt, which is the

2489
02:27:49,290 --> 02:27:53,610
rise in the reform UK vote don't
listen to a word of it join the

2490
02:27:53,610 --> 02:27:54,900
revolt. So

2491
02:27:56,130 --> 02:27:58,050
Adam Curry: because it was a
canvasser this wasn't someone

2492
02:27:58,050 --> 02:28:01,290
actually in his party, but just
some blowhard who was out there

2493
02:28:01,290 --> 02:28:04,290
yelling all this it turns out he
was a shill for channel for

2494
02:28:05,160 --> 02:28:09,030
John C Dvorak: sure. That makes
sense. Well done going on too

2495
02:28:09,030 --> 02:28:13,590
much by the way. And I will just
thing that what He said He said

2496
02:28:13,590 --> 02:28:14,220
Pocky

2497
02:28:15,300 --> 02:28:16,770
Adam Curry: is Sunako is he
pocket

2498
02:28:16,980 --> 02:28:21,330
John C Dvorak: Paki pa K I get
Pakistani? Yeah. Dude you could

2499
02:28:21,330 --> 02:28:23,700
see as a slur in the UK. Yeah,
but

2500
02:28:23,700 --> 02:28:27,270
Adam Curry: you can talk to
anyone in the UK and after three

2501
02:28:27,270 --> 02:28:30,810
minutes the word Paki comes up.
Yeah, I don't want to say I

2502
02:28:30,810 --> 02:28:33,480
believe that the Brits are
racist but the kind of racist

2503
02:28:34,050 --> 02:28:37,920
John C Dvorak: but they've
always been racist. What else is

2504
02:28:37,920 --> 02:28:38,340
new?

2505
02:28:39,570 --> 02:28:41,430
Adam Curry: Hello, Great
Britain. Thanks for your

2506
02:28:41,430 --> 02:28:46,650
support. They have always kind
of been racist. I guess it's

2507
02:28:46,650 --> 02:28:47,070
true.

2508
02:28:49,560 --> 02:28:55,080
John C Dvorak: There Did you
have a immigration issue going

2509
02:28:55,080 --> 02:28:59,070
on? There is the problematic
problematic. Oh,

2510
02:28:59,070 --> 02:29:00,390
Adam Curry: yeah. Well,
especially because they're in

2511
02:29:00,390 --> 02:29:03,270
islands. I mean, let's be honest
about that. Sorry about that.

2512
02:29:03,900 --> 02:29:07,740
Goldman's I want to switch to
AI. Just keep an eye on that

2513
02:29:07,740 --> 02:29:11,070
because I'm waiting for the for
The Big Short. Someone's gonna

2514
02:29:11,070 --> 02:29:17,070
walk away rich not going to be
us. Goldman Sachs comes out and

2515
02:29:17,070 --> 02:29:22,770
says return on investment for AI
might be disappointing. Yeah.

2516
02:29:23,580 --> 02:29:26,310
Does that now just does a
statement from Goldman like

2517
02:29:26,310 --> 02:29:29,490
that? Does that carry any weight
in the investment world do you

2518
02:29:29,490 --> 02:29:30,720
think that makes don't forget

2519
02:29:30,720 --> 02:29:35,880
John C Dvorak: Goldman's to one
during the 2006 era and before

2520
02:29:35,880 --> 02:29:40,110
and the back and forth? Keep
predicting oils going to $200

2521
02:29:40,110 --> 02:29:42,960
never does. Now that's true. So
Goldman is kind of a

2522
02:29:42,960 --> 02:29:46,380
misdirection operation and a lot
of ways to get people to buy I

2523
02:29:46,380 --> 02:29:50,790
don't know what they're trying
to do. But they don't know why

2524
02:29:50,790 --> 02:29:52,890
you'd never know what they I
mean, I take their stuff with a

2525
02:29:52,890 --> 02:29:57,870
grain of salt. But I think the
accurate was that analysis for

2526
02:29:57,870 --> 02:29:58,980
sure. AI

2527
02:29:58,980 --> 02:30:01,230
Adam Curry: technologies X
Apparently expensive and to

2528
02:30:01,230 --> 02:30:04,410
justify those costs that
technology might be able to

2529
02:30:04,410 --> 02:30:08,400
solve complex problems, which it
isn't designed to do. Jim

2530
02:30:08,400 --> 02:30:11,040
Covello, the head of Global
Equity Research at Goldman Sachs

2531
02:30:11,040 --> 02:30:14,940
said in their report, the
starting point for cost is also

2532
02:30:14,940 --> 02:30:18,330
so high that even if cost
declined, they would have to do

2533
02:30:18,330 --> 02:30:21,180
so dramatically to make
automating tasks with AI

2534
02:30:21,180 --> 02:30:24,990
affordable. In our experience,
even basic summarization tasks

2535
02:30:25,020 --> 02:30:28,350
often yield illegible and
nonsensical results.

2536
02:30:30,690 --> 02:30:32,490
John C Dvorak: Yes, what he's
referring to, of course, is

2537
02:30:32,490 --> 02:30:36,150
creating abstracts from large
documents. Yes. And having

2538
02:30:36,150 --> 02:30:40,500
instead of doing it by having a
person do it, which you can do

2539
02:30:40,920 --> 02:30:43,680
have a person they read the
thing and they summarize, to

2540
02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:45,480
have the AI do it. Good luck.

2541
02:30:46,290 --> 02:30:49,800
Adam Curry: Yeah, just pay a
person a trillion dollars. I'm

2542
02:30:49,800 --> 02:30:52,950
always looking, though, for for
uses for AI, where it actually

2543
02:30:52,950 --> 02:30:57,870
does something and you know,
instead of just funny, funny

2544
02:30:57,870 --> 02:31:02,850
pictures and and term papers
and, and flowery words, and you

2545
02:31:02,850 --> 02:31:03,390
know, there's

2546
02:31:03,780 --> 02:31:05,640
John C Dvorak: good, long
introductions that are

2547
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:08,520
unnecessary, which I think is
the number one giveaway.

2548
02:31:08,970 --> 02:31:10,710
Adam Curry: Someone sent me an
email the other day that he

2549
02:31:10,710 --> 02:31:13,320
wrote with AI and that he came
up with in the middle, like,

2550
02:31:13,320 --> 02:31:16,320
I've always admired you for how
you were on your Honda

2551
02:31:16,320 --> 02:31:20,100
motorcycle, touring the country.
And you're and I liked that

2552
02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:23,520
you're a ham radio operator had
a completely wrong callsign. It

2553
02:31:23,520 --> 02:31:26,640
was just like, why didn't you
write that letter and AI to me?

2554
02:31:28,590 --> 02:31:32,850
Here's so here's Bloomberg. And
they're talking about the new

2555
02:31:33,990 --> 02:31:38,790
core vive. Is that the new chip?
The next Nvidia Chip,

2556
02:31:39,270 --> 02:31:41,820
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
they're called. Well, apparently

2557
02:31:41,820 --> 02:31:43,080
they called expensive, that's

2558
02:31:43,350 --> 02:31:44,730
Adam Curry: expensive.
Apparently, you can do

2559
02:31:44,730 --> 02:31:51,600
computational fluid dynamics.
And, and Bloomberg found a

2560
02:31:51,600 --> 02:31:55,530
solution. Finally, we can use
these expensive power hungry

2561
02:31:55,530 --> 02:31:57,480
chips for Formula One,

2562
02:31:57,720 --> 02:32:02,220
Unknown: the new in video chips,
the GB, two hundreds, what will

2563
02:32:02,220 --> 02:32:04,080
those do for core wave,

2564
02:32:04,290 --> 02:32:08,910
they are going to open up a lot
of both training and inference

2565
02:32:08,940 --> 02:32:14,040
use cases in the AI side that I
think our customers have been

2566
02:32:14,040 --> 02:32:19,740
blocked by with the existing
generation, and that you're now

2567
02:32:19,740 --> 02:32:24,420
able to link 72 of these GPUs
together to work almost as one

2568
02:32:24,420 --> 02:32:28,140
unit. And previously, that was
limited to eight, they have a

2569
02:32:28,140 --> 02:32:30,540
much larger what's called a
frame buffer, which is how much

2570
02:32:30,540 --> 02:32:33,960
memory that's usable for their
matrix operations. So, you know,

2571
02:32:33,990 --> 02:32:37,260
I think that we're gonna see a
lot of new use cases show up for

2572
02:32:37,260 --> 02:32:41,640
this stuff. But I think it
extends well beyond AI as well.

2573
02:32:42,030 --> 02:32:44,490
And it's gonna be a lot more
useful for things like

2574
02:32:44,490 --> 02:32:47,700
scientific computing. One of the
things that has me really

2575
02:32:47,700 --> 02:32:51,330
excited is the computational
fluid dynamics. And I'm

2576
02:32:51,330 --> 02:32:54,750
specifically thinking about the
uses for that in f1, under the

2577
02:32:54,750 --> 02:32:59,670
new regulation in 2026, I'm
excited for the new platform. I

2578
02:32:59,670 --> 02:33:01,710
think in a year and a half
people are going to be using it

2579
02:33:01,710 --> 02:33:05,940
for things that are different
than anybody expects today. And

2580
02:33:05,970 --> 02:33:09,810
that's to me that the pace at
which this is changing is the

2581
02:33:09,810 --> 02:33:10,920
piece. That's really cool. Wait,

2582
02:33:10,950 --> 02:33:13,440
I'm sorry, I hate sports. What's
the point?

2583
02:33:14,820 --> 02:33:16,650
Explain how the invidious Yeah,

2584
02:33:16,650 --> 02:33:20,700
so their platform, they have
very tight restrictions around

2585
02:33:20,700 --> 02:33:23,220
what type of compute and how
much compute you can use to do

2586
02:33:23,430 --> 02:33:26,700
aerodynamic testing in your
cars. And you can either do real

2587
02:33:26,700 --> 02:33:29,220
life testing in a wind tunnel,
or you can do it through CFD

2588
02:33:29,220 --> 02:33:32,940
analysis. And the regulations
around the existing program in

2589
02:33:32,940 --> 02:33:36,660
f1 are they're only able to use
CPUs. They have very, like

2590
02:33:36,660 --> 02:33:39,030
specific limitations around it.
But there's been a lot of talk

2591
02:33:39,030 --> 02:33:42,000
about changing for the 2020 26
car models,

2592
02:33:42,240 --> 02:33:45,360
Adam Curry: and I'm gung ho
excited about possibly

2593
02:33:45,360 --> 02:33:48,570
supporting that. Ah, gung ho
excited, that's a trillion

2594
02:33:48,570 --> 02:33:50,400
dollar investment. Going

2595
02:33:50,400 --> 02:33:52,770
John C Dvorak: home excited
going, Whoa, whoa, I didn't

2596
02:33:52,770 --> 02:33:54,690
understand what he was talking
about. He's talking about

2597
02:33:54,690 --> 02:33:57,690
designing the car using AI
computational

2598
02:33:57,690 --> 02:34:01,050
Adam Curry: fluid dynamics baby,
which I think you're referring

2599
02:34:01,050 --> 02:34:01,290
to

2600
02:34:01,290 --> 02:34:04,170
John C Dvorak: the wind tunnel
test. Yeah. Being done off off

2601
02:34:04,500 --> 02:34:08,790
without a wind tunnel. Yeah. So
you could have a design a car

2602
02:34:08,790 --> 02:34:11,610
and the AI supposedly, or
essentially name of the AI is

2603
02:34:11,610 --> 02:34:16,020
just those GPUs. Yeah, could
design move something left and

2604
02:34:16,020 --> 02:34:17,730
right, so put it so that

2605
02:34:17,730 --> 02:34:21,450
Adam Curry: but that's not even
your point. It's not even AI. So

2606
02:34:21,450 --> 02:34:24,810
this is the best they can come
up with. With core we've, oh, we

2607
02:34:24,810 --> 02:34:33,390
can make Formula One cars go
faster. Okay. And then the the

2608
02:34:33,390 --> 02:34:39,930
viral clip this week, regarding
AI came from the CEO of

2609
02:34:39,930 --> 02:34:43,740
Microsoft's AI Mustafa Soulier
Mondo head.

2610
02:34:43,860 --> 02:34:45,270
John C Dvorak: I'm glad you got
this clip.

2611
02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:47,280
Adam Curry: This is worth
discussing

2612
02:34:47,340 --> 02:34:50,610
Unknown: with respect to content
that is already on the open web.

2613
02:34:50,970 --> 02:34:54,300
The social contract of that
content since the 90s. has been

2614
02:34:54,300 --> 02:34:57,930
that it is fair use. Anyone can
copy it, recreate with it

2615
02:34:57,930 --> 02:35:01,470
reproduce with it. That has been
freeware, if you like that's

2616
02:35:01,470 --> 02:35:04,860
been the understanding was a
separate category where a

2617
02:35:04,860 --> 02:35:08,550
website or a publisher or a news
organization had explicitly

2618
02:35:08,550 --> 02:35:12,060
said, do not scrape or crawl me
for any other reason than

2619
02:35:12,060 --> 02:35:15,540
indexing me so that other people
can find that content. That's a

2620
02:35:15,540 --> 02:35:17,880
gray area. And I think that's
going to work its way through

2621
02:35:17,910 --> 02:35:18,600
the courts.

2622
02:35:20,220 --> 02:35:25,110
Adam Curry: John, I think we
both have no in copyright, maybe

2623
02:35:25,110 --> 02:35:26,670
you want to weigh in on this
one.

2624
02:35:27,990 --> 02:35:30,270
John C Dvorak: Everything is on
the web is copyrighted.

2625
02:35:31,230 --> 02:35:34,140
Everything that people produce
copyright and to, and to get to

2626
02:35:34,140 --> 02:35:38,430
the point of fair use, which we
push the boundaries on. Because

2627
02:35:38,430 --> 02:35:42,120
we take clips, it has to be used
for some other reason other than

2628
02:35:42,120 --> 02:35:46,650
its original intent. So if, for
example, we can take a clip from

2629
02:35:46,650 --> 02:35:51,000
NBC, but we're not using it to
present it as the news clip that

2630
02:35:51,000 --> 02:35:55,050
it was originally we use it to
educate, you know, educate,

2631
02:35:55,080 --> 02:35:59,610
deconstruct the clip, educate
the public has a different use,

2632
02:35:59,610 --> 02:36:03,510
it's a use that's different. And
it's not a lot. It's a very

2633
02:36:03,510 --> 02:36:08,070
small percentage of the
original. And it's all legal to

2634
02:36:08,070 --> 02:36:12,570
take the entire web, which is he
implies the entire thing is all

2635
02:36:12,570 --> 02:36:16,560
public domain and all fair uses
bullcrap. So where does he get

2636
02:36:16,560 --> 02:36:20,010
this idea? This just at you
know, this is going to be used

2637
02:36:20,040 --> 02:36:21,060
against him in a court

2638
02:36:21,060 --> 02:36:24,750
Adam Curry: of law, this this
statement, in fact, and just so

2639
02:36:24,750 --> 02:36:25,170
I'm saying

2640
02:36:25,170 --> 02:36:27,870
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna get
he's gonna get burned by what he

2641
02:36:27,870 --> 02:36:29,070
did that that clip.

2642
02:36:29,970 --> 02:36:33,690
Adam Curry: Every single mp3 We
release has in its ID three

2643
02:36:33,690 --> 02:36:39,570
tags, a copyright, no agenda,
LLC. I have sued corporations

2644
02:36:39,660 --> 02:36:44,460
under the fact I set
jurisprudence, suing a

2645
02:36:44,490 --> 02:36:47,400
publisher, a large publisher in
the Netherlands, for taking my

2646
02:36:47,550 --> 02:36:49,080
pictures off of Flickr.

2647
02:36:50,430 --> 02:36:51,900
John C Dvorak: We can't do that,
which I'd published

2648
02:36:51,900 --> 02:36:55,440
Adam Curry: under Creative
Commons, which was distribute

2649
02:36:55,440 --> 02:37:00,570
share, like no commercial, and
they lost and I won. And I'm

2650
02:37:00,570 --> 02:37:03,180
still hoping for the day they do
it again, because then I get to

2651
02:37:03,210 --> 02:37:06,450
charge them 5000 euros for every
copy for every day. It's in

2652
02:37:06,450 --> 02:37:09,990
circulation. But that'd be great
fact. Yeah, that's, that's an

2653
02:37:09,990 --> 02:37:15,030
exit strategy right there. Yes,
that does not happen. But I just

2654
02:37:15,030 --> 02:37:17,400
thought it was what a horrible
take from that guy.

2655
02:37:19,380 --> 02:37:20,580
John C Dvorak: Well, he
obviously doesn't know what he's

2656
02:37:20,580 --> 02:37:24,840
talking about knee. And
Microsoft has a team, a team, a

2657
02:37:24,840 --> 02:37:28,980
huge team of legal experts that
he should have at least

2658
02:37:28,980 --> 02:37:32,490
consulted. Yeah. Before he made
that comment that everything on

2659
02:37:32,490 --> 02:37:35,550
the web is free, wary of fair
use.

2660
02:37:35,670 --> 02:37:37,890
Adam Curry: Are you kidding me?
He said it's freeware under the

2661
02:37:37,890 --> 02:37:39,840
social contract, freeware.

2662
02:37:40,529 --> 02:37:42,659
John C Dvorak: And I shouldn't
mention you said you'd put we

2663
02:37:42,659 --> 02:37:45,299
put the copyright notice on and
people still do that. But that

2664
02:37:45,299 --> 02:37:48,839
is actually not needed. You
don't even have to do it as a as

2665
02:37:48,839 --> 02:37:52,349
an as of a number of years ago,
and I don't remember when but it

2666
02:37:52,439 --> 02:37:56,369
was probably 20 years ago. It
turns out that anything you

2667
02:37:56,369 --> 02:38:00,479
publish, whether you put the
copyright notice on it or not,

2668
02:38:01,259 --> 02:38:05,849
is copyrighted by just by by
law. It's copyrighted. And this

2669
02:38:06,239 --> 02:38:09,239
kind of stems from the early
days of copyright when you

2670
02:38:09,239 --> 02:38:13,829
actually had to produce a copy
and to get to apply for a

2671
02:38:13,829 --> 02:38:16,619
copyright had to apply for a
copyright, then you had to send

2672
02:38:16,619 --> 02:38:21,179
a copy to the Library of
Congress. Yep. Like in the 1800s

2673
02:38:21,179 --> 02:38:25,139
or 1900s, some very long ago.
And that became such a pain in

2674
02:38:25,139 --> 02:38:28,049
the ass because people were
copywriting everything. They

2675
02:38:28,049 --> 02:38:31,739
said, screw that we don't want
to get all these copies. And so

2676
02:38:31,739 --> 02:38:34,469
then copyright laws changed and
changed. And now it's like,

2677
02:38:34,469 --> 02:38:38,339
everything's copyrighted. Get
over it wasn't there? unless you

2678
02:38:38,339 --> 02:38:39,329
say otherwise.

2679
02:38:39,360 --> 02:38:41,280
Adam Curry: At some point, I
remember someone saying, if you

2680
02:38:41,280 --> 02:38:44,400
have an idea, or you write
something, you should print it

2681
02:38:44,400 --> 02:38:49,050
out, put an envelope and put it
in the mail to yourself. Yeah,

2682
02:38:49,080 --> 02:38:51,720
John C Dvorak: I remember that
it. Was that true. I've done

2683
02:38:51,720 --> 02:38:54,390
that. I don't know if it's true
or not. I always liked that. Oh,

2684
02:38:54,390 --> 02:38:57,270
that sounds good. It's just to
prove that you're right. You're

2685
02:38:57,900 --> 02:39:00,750
late for when you develop an
idea or a patent. Yeah, suppose

2686
02:39:00,750 --> 02:39:04,470
you want us to get the date
earlier. And so you mail it to

2687
02:39:04,470 --> 02:39:07,650
yourself, and then you can take
it to a court of law. Now,

2688
02:39:07,830 --> 02:39:09,300
somebody steals your idea

2689
02:39:09,330 --> 02:39:13,560
Adam Curry: now what we do like
and, and always, we've always

2690
02:39:13,560 --> 02:39:16,320
said this is a good idea. We'd
like you to freely distribute

2691
02:39:16,320 --> 02:39:18,330
the no agenda show in any
manner. You can.

2692
02:39:20,190 --> 02:39:22,260
John C Dvorak: Yeah, put it on
your own website. Yeah. We've

2693
02:39:22,260 --> 02:39:29,070
always said that's okay. As long
as it in its entirety. Yes. Some

2694
02:39:29,070 --> 02:39:30,810
people use the donation
segments.

2695
02:39:30,810 --> 02:39:33,930
Adam Curry: Yeah, some people
have. For a while there we were

2696
02:39:33,930 --> 02:39:36,570
on some radio station and they
and someone went through the

2697
02:39:36,570 --> 02:39:39,630
trouble of bleeping out all the
cuss words, which at the time, I

2698
02:39:39,630 --> 02:39:43,800
was quite prone to do. Didn't
last long. They got tired of it.

2699
02:39:45,720 --> 02:39:47,340
This show is just one big beep

2700
02:39:49,350 --> 02:39:52,200
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, we
probably cause too much. Not

2701
02:39:52,200 --> 02:39:57,150
that much anymore. Well, for a
radio, dog for radio, yeah, we

2702
02:39:57,150 --> 02:40:00,660
Adam Curry: all all kinds of
stuff. We can't say Little Bird

2703
02:40:00,660 --> 02:40:04,320
Flu updates besides Finland
being the first country to offer

2704
02:40:04,320 --> 02:40:12,600
a vaccination for human beings,
the kicking that off we we have

2705
02:40:12,630 --> 02:40:16,680
an update. Let's see where did
this come from? I think this

2706
02:40:16,680 --> 02:40:17,550
might be ABC,

2707
02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:20,340
Unknown: the state of Michigan
making inroads in the fight to

2708
02:40:20,340 --> 02:40:24,150
contain the h five and one
strain of bird flu after once

2709
02:40:24,150 --> 02:40:26,850
leading the nation and detected
outbreaks. The state's

2710
02:40:26,850 --> 02:40:29,940
Department of Health now working
with farms to assess the risk

2711
02:40:30,300 --> 02:40:34,470
and infection and dairy farm
workers for certified emergency

2712
02:40:34,470 --> 02:40:38,340
room. Dr. Michael Daniel has
been out front on the bird flu

2713
02:40:38,340 --> 02:40:40,950
and he joins us now with more
always good to have you. Thank

2714
02:40:40,950 --> 02:40:43,410
you. Good evening. Let's talk
more about how these tests in

2715
02:40:43,410 --> 02:40:47,250
Michigan, how they're working on
both dairy workers and milk

2716
02:40:47,250 --> 02:40:48,000
products.

2717
02:40:48,210 --> 02:40:51,150
So what's great is that you
know, Michigan had the highest

2718
02:40:51,150 --> 02:40:56,070
number of outbreaks, and they
offered farms $20,000 to

2719
02:40:56,070 --> 02:40:59,070
participate in CDC research,
which is which is great, it's

2720
02:40:59,070 --> 02:41:01,650
given the farm a lot of money to
do testing, take care of what

2721
02:41:01,650 --> 02:41:04,560
they need. And what they're
going to do is blood tests of

2722
02:41:04,560 --> 02:41:07,650
the farm workers to see if they
have the antibody to the h5 and

2723
02:41:07,650 --> 02:41:11,010
one bird flu virus, because they
want to see if there's some sort

2724
02:41:11,010 --> 02:41:14,910
of asymptomatic spread that's
passing from farm worker to farm

2725
02:41:14,910 --> 02:41:17,850
worker, because like I mentioned
last week, a lot of these herds

2726
02:41:17,850 --> 02:41:20,100
are closed herds. There's not a
lot of movement of cattle

2727
02:41:20,100 --> 02:41:22,710
between the herds. So this
suspicion that we need to rule

2728
02:41:22,710 --> 02:41:26,130
out to make sure that it's not
being spread asymptomatically

2729
02:41:26,160 --> 02:41:28,620
Because the farm workers are
moving from herds hurt, they go

2730
02:41:28,620 --> 02:41:31,440
from ranch to Ranch, for
example. So that's data that the

2731
02:41:31,440 --> 02:41:33,780
CDC is just starting, and it's
good to see this. Good to see

2732
02:41:33,780 --> 02:41:36,990
them on top of this. We need to
be doing more of this. I'm glad

2733
02:41:36,990 --> 02:41:40,470
we can report on this that
things are happening finally.

2734
02:41:40,530 --> 02:41:43,650
Adam Curry: Yeah, things are
happening. Finally. Oh, yeah.

2735
02:41:43,830 --> 02:41:46,770
Can we get to a pandemic? Come
on, boys do some work here.

2736
02:41:46,770 --> 02:41:51,300
member Robert Redfield said
former CDC Director Oh, no. Next

2737
02:41:51,300 --> 02:41:53,880
bird flu is going to come from
the lab from gain of function.

2738
02:41:54,030 --> 02:41:54,360
Whoa,

2739
02:41:54,360 --> 02:41:56,670
John C Dvorak: that's what we
call it says to which is already

2740
02:41:56,670 --> 02:41:59,490
working on that's where the
mallards got it. So

2741
02:41:59,490 --> 02:42:02,250
Adam Curry: the CDC is now
recommending everyone aged six

2742
02:42:02,250 --> 02:42:06,480
months and older. Hurry now
don't wait while stocks last get

2743
02:42:06,480 --> 02:42:12,870
an updated 2024 2025 COVID-19
vaccine. And I'm just thinking,

2744
02:42:12,870 --> 02:42:15,720
you know, if you really if you
really wanted to do something

2745
02:42:15,720 --> 02:42:19,140
with bird flu, the one thing we
know about the vaccine the one

2746
02:42:19,140 --> 02:42:23,760
thing we know for sure. I think
you will agree with me. Everyone

2747
02:42:23,760 --> 02:42:26,670
who got the vaccine definitely
got COVID

2748
02:42:27,810 --> 02:42:28,650
John C Dvorak: seem so.

2749
02:42:28,890 --> 02:42:31,140
Adam Curry: So what if you put
just put a little bird flu

2750
02:42:31,170 --> 02:42:32,640
proteins in there? Well,

2751
02:42:32,790 --> 02:42:36,690
John C Dvorak: there's precedent
for this. Haha. And we had it on

2752
02:42:36,690 --> 02:42:39,210
the show, there's probably a
clip but if you could find it

2753
02:42:39,210 --> 02:42:43,710
probably can't find it. Maybe it
can. This one of the vaccine

2754
02:42:43,710 --> 02:42:50,820
manufacturers during the swine
flu epidemic pandemic of some

2755
02:42:50,820 --> 02:42:57,840
years ago, had was distributing
a swine flu vaccine with live

2756
02:42:57,840 --> 02:43:02,820
swine flu viruses in the
vaccine. They were they were

2757
02:43:02,820 --> 02:43:07,380
caught and shut down. But this
was going on. And it created

2758
02:43:07,380 --> 02:43:10,050
swine flu outbreaks here and
there out of the blue.

2759
02:43:10,140 --> 02:43:11,100
Adam Curry: Let me see if this
is the

2760
02:43:11,100 --> 02:43:13,740
Unknown: one. It is one of the
greatest medical scandals of the

2761
02:43:13,740 --> 02:43:16,740
century. According to a leading
health expert in Brussels. The

2762
02:43:16,740 --> 02:43:20,460
Council of Europe Health's chief
has accused major pharmaceutical

2763
02:43:20,460 --> 02:43:24,240
firms of organizing a campaign
of panic and unduly influencing

2764
02:43:24,240 --> 02:43:27,300
World Health Organization
decisions. And with European

2765
02:43:27,300 --> 02:43:30,210
countries now burdened with
bills for millions of unwanted

2766
02:43:30,210 --> 02:43:33,810
doses of the swine flu vaccine.
He wants an investigation

2767
02:43:34,200 --> 02:43:35,820
Adam Curry: sounds
correspondence or maybe not. I

2768
02:43:35,820 --> 02:43:36,780
don't know if that's the was

2769
02:43:36,780 --> 02:43:38,580
John C Dvorak: probably not
answered. There's a similar

2770
02:43:38,940 --> 02:43:42,090
scenario but yes, there was one
company I can't remember the

2771
02:43:42,090 --> 02:43:45,450
name of them. Somebody could
look it up you can find it that

2772
02:43:45,450 --> 02:43:50,070
was distributing swine flu via
the vaccine. Uh, yes. The way to

2773
02:43:50,070 --> 02:43:54,540
get the bird flu thing going is
to put bird flu in the bird flu

2774
02:43:54,540 --> 02:43:57,600
Hmm I don't know if it's even
illegal to suggest that they

2775
02:43:57,600 --> 02:44:03,420
might do this cuz it seems like
you're creating we're just not

2776
02:44:03,420 --> 02:44:03,660
just

2777
02:44:03,660 --> 02:44:07,620
Adam Curry: kooky we're just
podcasters pay no it yeah

2778
02:44:07,620 --> 02:44:10,110
John C Dvorak: actually have a
second half a show it's crazy

2779
02:44:10,110 --> 02:44:15,660
clip. But it wouldn't I wouldn't
put it past them.

2780
02:44:18,330 --> 02:44:20,910
Adam Curry: Well, that would
take care of the mail in

2781
02:44:20,910 --> 02:44:24,930
ballots, wouldn't it? For the
Republicans this time.

2782
02:44:26,310 --> 02:44:29,880
John C Dvorak: You know, some
little update, you know, the

2783
02:44:29,880 --> 02:44:35,160
second half a show clip we can
play while entering second half.

2784
02:44:37,050 --> 02:44:40,170
All right, second half. About
the monolith. Here's the PBS

2785
02:44:40,170 --> 02:44:40,680
report.

2786
02:44:40,740 --> 02:44:43,500
Adam Curry: Oh goodness, the
Monolith is back new location

2787
02:44:43,530 --> 02:44:48,120
and a new chapter in an unsolved
mystery. Las Vegas police said

2788
02:44:48,120 --> 02:44:51,540
they removed a tall monolith
from a remote part of Nevada

2789
02:44:51,540 --> 02:44:54,840
desert. They said the six foot
four structure was a public

2790
02:44:54,840 --> 02:44:58,620
safety and environmental hazard
to how it got there is anybody's

2791
02:44:58,620 --> 02:45:02,370
guess it's the lake It is in a
series of mysterious monolith

2792
02:45:02,370 --> 02:45:05,580
placements around the world
since 2020, including in the

2793
02:45:05,580 --> 02:45:09,840
Democratic Republic of Congo and
in Turkey. The Nevada monolith

2794
02:45:09,840 --> 02:45:13,560
made of sheet metal rebar, and
concrete is being held at an

2795
02:45:13,560 --> 02:45:16,740
undisclosed location. Police are
trying to figure out how to best

2796
02:45:16,740 --> 02:45:21,540
store it or dispose of it. The
hoax here is the term monolith.

2797
02:45:21,960 --> 02:45:25,560
What exactly is a monolith
supposed to be this is just the

2798
02:45:25,560 --> 02:45:26,430
things from

2799
02:45:26,430 --> 02:45:30,150
John C Dvorak: the from the
movie. Oh, well, you know the

2800
02:45:30,150 --> 02:45:35,850
Space Odyssey now. Okay, yes,
yes. Where it's from it but this

2801
02:45:35,850 --> 02:45:40,290
monolith was it a safety is out
in the middle of nowhere have to

2802
02:45:40,290 --> 02:45:43,440
remember. Nobody even knows how
long it's been there. It's been

2803
02:45:43,440 --> 02:45:46,740
set up and left there. And there
it is. And somebody discovered

2804
02:45:46,740 --> 02:45:50,760
now some sort of a safety
hazard. safety hazard for what

2805
02:45:51,930 --> 02:45:55,080
little flying planes is only six
foot for this monolith.

2806
02:45:55,890 --> 02:46:00,090
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
really don't know. A prediction

2807
02:46:00,090 --> 02:46:02,580
of yours coming true in an odd
sort of way.

2808
02:46:02,610 --> 02:46:05,400
Unknown: Developing right now. A
double murder suspects spending

2809
02:46:05,400 --> 02:46:08,370
their first night in jail after
this tense scene played out in

2810
02:46:08,370 --> 02:46:11,250
the St. George neighborhood.
Multiple homeowners capturing

2811
02:46:11,250 --> 02:46:14,190
this moment the suspect was
taken into custody. After an

2812
02:46:14,190 --> 02:46:17,550
hour's long manhunt. In the last
90 minutes we have obtained the

2813
02:46:17,550 --> 02:46:20,280
jail documents identifying the
two people killed.

2814
02:46:20,430 --> 02:46:23,910
They are as neighbors told us
earlier the suspects own

2815
02:46:23,910 --> 02:46:28,260
parents. St. George police
arrested the suspect about eight

2816
02:46:28,260 --> 02:46:32,250
miles from the Washington home
where the shooting happened. You

2817
02:46:32,250 --> 02:46:34,860
special Salix Cabrera live in a
neighborhood where the manhunt

2818
02:46:34,860 --> 02:46:38,130
ended and Alex you have been
looking over those new documents

2819
02:46:38,130 --> 02:46:39,420
here. What are you learning
tonight?

2820
02:46:41,310 --> 02:46:43,560
According to those court
documents might continue the

2821
02:46:43,560 --> 02:46:47,160
victims in this case are Gail
and Joseph Bailey who are the

2822
02:46:47,160 --> 02:46:50,070
parents of the suspect me a
Bailey and that they were shot

2823
02:46:50,190 --> 02:46:54,120
several times. Also, according
to that court paperwork, Bailey

2824
02:46:54,120 --> 02:46:58,170
told police there was no remorse
in that, quote, I would do it

2825
02:46:58,170 --> 02:47:02,280
again. I hate them. Neighbors
say that people killed were

2826
02:47:02,280 --> 02:47:05,610
Bailey's parents, and that there
were issues between the parents

2827
02:47:05,610 --> 02:47:09,420
and Bailey about Bailey's
transition from a man to a woman

2828
02:47:09,450 --> 02:47:09,660
with

2829
02:47:09,660 --> 02:47:16,590
there was already volatility and
bad vibes going with within the

2830
02:47:16,590 --> 02:47:17,160
family.

2831
02:47:17,190 --> 02:47:20,700
Police are still investigating
the exact motive. Either way

2832
02:47:20,700 --> 02:47:23,790
this neighborhood is now back to
normal. I'm

2833
02:47:23,790 --> 02:47:25,950
Adam Curry: telling you, this is
how it starts.

2834
02:47:28,680 --> 02:47:33,300
John C Dvorak: Well, the people
that got him to transition don't

2835
02:47:33,300 --> 02:47:36,120
care which way it went. But
they're the ones who are should

2836
02:47:36,120 --> 02:47:40,230
be liable. Yeah, fat chance.
There's two dead dogs.

2837
02:47:40,260 --> 02:47:42,180
Adam Curry: It's going to
happen. Probably not in this

2838
02:47:42,180 --> 02:47:44,580
case. But it will I agree with
you though. Not

2839
02:47:44,580 --> 02:47:46,470
John C Dvorak: in that case, but
it's going to happen eventually

2840
02:47:46,470 --> 02:47:48,450
you're going to have two things
happen. One, the parents are

2841
02:47:48,450 --> 02:47:50,730
going to get charged. I still
believe the parent

2842
02:47:50,730 --> 02:47:53,970
Adam Curry: or the parents are
dead. They can't get charged.

2843
02:47:53,970 --> 02:47:55,350
They're dead. No,

2844
02:47:55,350 --> 02:47:57,420
John C Dvorak: I'm saying I'm
talking about crime to

2845
02:47:57,420 --> 02:48:00,750
transition these kids that were
the parents aren't dead. The

2846
02:48:01,110 --> 02:48:03,630
same. I mean, whether the
parents are dead if they're not

2847
02:48:03,630 --> 02:48:07,170
dead, they're gonna get charged.
So maybe being dead is not a bad

2848
02:48:07,980 --> 02:48:12,270
option. Is it this is not going
to work out. This is going to be

2849
02:48:12,270 --> 02:48:14,610
a disaster. Yeah,

2850
02:48:14,700 --> 02:48:17,160
Adam Curry: it doesn't seem like
a lot of these kids are happy.

2851
02:48:18,690 --> 02:48:19,740
John C Dvorak: None of them are.

2852
02:48:23,400 --> 02:48:25,680
Adam Curry: final clip for me.
Before we go into our last

2853
02:48:25,680 --> 02:48:29,580
break, we got to cool meet up
reports coming and have a

2854
02:48:29,580 --> 02:48:33,900
knighting and some birthdays.
And finally, Joe Biden's climate

2855
02:48:33,900 --> 02:48:37,830
envoy his it's an envoy now it
used to bizarre, but now it's an

2856
02:48:37,830 --> 02:48:42,090
envoy John Podesta who doesn't
know him from the WikiLeaks. And

2857
02:48:42,090 --> 02:48:43,650
he's unclogging

2858
02:48:43,710 --> 02:48:46,860
Unknown: the realities of the
climate crisis have never been

2859
02:48:46,860 --> 02:48:51,210
clearer. And our ability to
address those realities has

2860
02:48:51,210 --> 02:48:55,590
never been greater. 2023, of
course, was the hottest year on

2861
02:48:55,590 --> 02:49:00,210
record. Of course, July of 2023
was the hottest month on record

2862
02:49:00,210 --> 02:49:06,240
ever and every month since has
been the hottest, ever recorded

2863
02:49:06,510 --> 02:49:12,540
on the planet, say 2024 is on
track to be even hotter than

2864
02:49:12,540 --> 02:49:16,560
last year. And it's already
having profound consequences

2865
02:49:16,800 --> 02:49:20,430
around the world. And especially
for the most vulnerable

2866
02:49:20,430 --> 02:49:24,180
communities. We know something
is terribly wrong with our

2867
02:49:24,180 --> 02:49:29,250
planet. The string of calamities
is no fluke. It is the climate

2868
02:49:29,250 --> 02:49:33,360
crisis. And it's costing us big,
we still have a lot of work to

2869
02:49:33,360 --> 02:49:37,890
do to ensure a safe future for
humanity. And we have to move

2870
02:49:37,890 --> 02:49:43,350
fast and at scale. I like to
quote the IPCC in their 2018

2871
02:49:43,350 --> 02:49:49,020
report on 1.5 degrees C. We need
a transformation of the global

2872
02:49:49,020 --> 02:49:53,370
economy on a size and scale
that's never occurred in human

2873
02:49:53,370 --> 02:49:57,630
history. That's a tall order,
but one we can accomplish.

2874
02:49:57,660 --> 02:50:00,600
Adam Curry: We can do it. We can
do it. discuss

2875
02:50:00,600 --> 02:50:04,350
John C Dvorak: a couple of
things I have to ask you. Why

2876
02:50:04,350 --> 02:50:09,390
would you change from tsar to
envoy? So why would you do that

2877
02:50:09,390 --> 02:50:14,640
a sounds like why would this
joker take this job? This is

2878
02:50:14,640 --> 02:50:15,930
like beneath him.

2879
02:50:17,039 --> 02:50:19,529
Adam Curry: He's a money guy. He
goes where the money is.

2880
02:50:20,880 --> 02:50:24,420
John C Dvorak: But for him,
there's no money for him. Oh,

2881
02:50:24,420 --> 02:50:24,690
come

2882
02:50:24,690 --> 02:50:27,390
Adam Curry: on, come on. He's,
I'm sure he's got all kinds of

2883
02:50:27,390 --> 02:50:30,330
deals going on in the
background, and you get to hang

2884
02:50:30,330 --> 02:50:33,660
out, you get to take the jet,
you get to have fancy dinners.

2885
02:50:33,810 --> 02:50:37,500
You get to be big man on campus.
This guy's an egomaniac?

2886
02:50:37,980 --> 02:50:40,110
John C Dvorak: Well, I believe
he's an egomaniac, but when he

2887
02:50:40,110 --> 02:50:45,210
was running campaigns, and
really having an effect, as

2888
02:50:45,210 --> 02:50:50,160
opposed to being a public BS
artist, which he is now, with

2889
02:50:50,160 --> 02:50:53,610
that nonsense that he just
spewed. It's got to be I think

2890
02:50:53,610 --> 02:50:56,340
it's a letdown. I don't know how
you can live with himself.

2891
02:50:57,060 --> 02:51:01,740
Adam Curry: Well, I think you
and I should be on voice. Yeah,

2892
02:51:01,830 --> 02:51:05,850
then you could be the right
honorable Jhansi. Dvorak. Could

2893
02:51:05,850 --> 02:51:07,950
happen. Anything for you?

2894
02:51:08,460 --> 02:51:10,680
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I got a
couple of one. Let me just do I

2895
02:51:10,680 --> 02:51:13,530
have a I always have these tick
tock things backed up. But

2896
02:51:13,530 --> 02:51:16,530
actually, I'm gonna skip that
and I want to play this. The EU

2897
02:51:16,530 --> 02:51:21,000
is going after Microsoft that
gouged them. And I think that's

2898
02:51:21,000 --> 02:51:23,700
a good thing. Because, you know,
these companies, American

2899
02:51:23,700 --> 02:51:28,740
companies were were not being
run properly. And so they were

2900
02:51:28,740 --> 02:51:32,790
leaving ourselves open to being
ripped off by the EU because

2901
02:51:32,850 --> 02:51:35,880
they don't like the fact that
we're so dominant over there. So

2902
02:51:35,880 --> 02:51:39,600
let's go EU versus Microsoft to
keep keep up. The EU

2903
02:51:39,600 --> 02:51:42,360
Unknown: is now targeting
Microsoft over antitrust

2904
02:51:42,360 --> 02:51:46,230
concerns. It says Microsoft
illegally includes Microsoft

2905
02:51:46,230 --> 02:51:50,280
teams with Microsoft Office
teams is a video communication

2906
02:51:50,280 --> 02:51:53,460
platform that people use to
collaborate. The European

2907
02:51:53,460 --> 02:51:57,030
Commission says including teams
with other popular programs like

2908
02:51:57,030 --> 02:52:00,930
Word and Excel gives it an
unfair advantage. Microsoft

2909
02:52:00,930 --> 02:52:05,700
faces a potential fines of up to
10% of its global revenue. Wow,

2910
02:52:05,700 --> 02:52:10,740
a money grab a power hungry
money grab that said when

2911
02:52:10,740 --> 02:52:14,730
regulators see money and they
want to shake it loose. They

2912
02:52:14,730 --> 02:52:16,170
cannot wait to

2913
02:52:16,200 --> 02:52:20,280
financial analyst Vijay Merola
says the move will harm the EU

2914
02:52:20,280 --> 02:52:23,100
in the long run because it
drives away businesses

2915
02:52:23,130 --> 02:52:26,280
businesses could leave because
all of the regulations and the

2916
02:52:26,280 --> 02:52:28,050
risk of potential lawsuits

2917
02:52:28,110 --> 02:52:32,430
10% of a revenue stream revenue
stream is not the bottom line

2918
02:52:32,640 --> 02:52:36,390
shows the revenues where you pay
all the bills with well what is

2919
02:52:36,390 --> 02:52:39,720
to stop them from just not doing
business in the EU.

2920
02:52:39,810 --> 02:52:43,530
The investigations began when
competitors slack and alpha view

2921
02:52:43,530 --> 02:52:46,590
complaint about the software
bundling both companies say they

2922
02:52:46,590 --> 02:52:50,160
welcome the Commission's move.
Microsoft President Brad Smith

2923
02:52:50,160 --> 02:52:54,060
says the company will quote work
to find solutions to address the

2924
02:52:54,060 --> 02:52:57,780
Commission's remaining concerns.
That's weird.

2925
02:52:58,230 --> 02:53:01,140
John C Dvorak: I get a kick out
at like Slack bitching about it?

2926
02:53:01,140 --> 02:53:05,670
Aren't they part of Salesforce
or you know, there's the same

2927
02:53:05,670 --> 02:53:07,440
thing. It's bundled with the
product.

2928
02:53:07,470 --> 02:53:10,020
Adam Curry: They already made
their money. Everybody got it?

2929
02:53:10,020 --> 02:53:15,390
Everyone made dynamite money on
that acquisition. That's weird.

2930
02:53:15,840 --> 02:53:19,890
Well, it's that Margarita woman
in the EU, that's her whole job

2931
02:53:19,890 --> 02:53:22,170
is to is to soak mud gouge
American

2932
02:53:22,170 --> 02:53:22,770
John C Dvorak: companies.

2933
02:53:23,400 --> 02:53:26,190
Unknown: I'm going to show my
mood by donating to no agenda.

2934
02:53:26,280 --> 02:53:29,400
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun.

2935
02:53:36,690 --> 02:53:40,470
Adam Curry: And John's going to
thank the people who came in

2936
02:53:40,470 --> 02:53:43,530
$50. And above. If there's
something we need to read, we'll

2937
02:53:43,530 --> 02:53:46,350
gladly read it. But typically we
don't it'll be name and

2938
02:53:46,350 --> 02:53:49,380
location. But we thank everybody
for going to no agenda

2939
02:53:49,380 --> 02:53:52,590
donation.com and supporting the
show supporting the work, which

2940
02:53:52,590 --> 02:53:55,260
we do twice a week on Sundays
and Thursdays.

2941
02:53:56,400 --> 02:53:58,950
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we started
with a, you know, this first

2942
02:53:58,950 --> 02:54:01,770
line when at 546. When I was
opening the spreadsheet, I

2943
02:54:01,770 --> 02:54:03,600
blanked out the guy's name. I

2944
02:54:03,600 --> 02:54:04,500
Adam Curry: don't have it
either.

2945
02:54:05,100 --> 02:54:06,510
John C Dvorak: Maybe it's not on
here.

2946
02:54:07,200 --> 02:54:11,190
Adam Curry: I don't have anyone
there. So oops, oops, oops. Man.

2947
02:54:11,190 --> 02:54:15,210
It's just the blank man, Mr.
Blank, man. And now you've done

2948
02:54:15,510 --> 02:54:18,600
you've done something very bad.
So I'll thank James I

2949
02:54:18,600 --> 02:54:21,600
John C Dvorak: did what I did, I
can fix it real quick. What I

2950
02:54:21,600 --> 02:54:25,710
did was I hit a key to look see
if I can recover that name. And

2951
02:54:25,710 --> 02:54:29,700
in the process, I made the
spreadsheet miniscule. Which is

2952
02:54:29,700 --> 02:54:33,390
not what I want to read it. It's
too small. What Okay, well,

2953
02:54:33,390 --> 02:54:36,960
there's somebody that came into
185 46 and we don't know who it

2954
02:54:36,960 --> 02:54:39,420
is. So you can send us a note.
We'll give you a credit later.

2955
02:54:39,720 --> 02:54:46,410
James. What is this? James Gaetz
eating in Addison, Texas. He

2956
02:54:46,410 --> 02:54:51,120
came in with 168 50 He says
Warren one of the few podcasts

2957
02:54:51,120 --> 02:54:54,960
was worth listening to these
days. Thank you, Amanda. Glen

2958
02:54:54,960 --> 02:55:01,650
and Gilroy 100. Joe. Dark darks
I guess is Amsterdam Holland

2959
02:55:01,920 --> 02:55:10,260
9626 He's hasn't called Letters
w w zero b. Oh

2960
02:55:10,290 --> 02:55:13,200
Adam Curry: no, I think this is
the name of the meetup in

2961
02:55:13,200 --> 02:55:15,720
Amsterdam on July 6, the robo
meetup.

2962
02:55:16,680 --> 02:55:16,980
John C Dvorak: Oh,

2963
02:55:17,340 --> 02:55:18,570
Adam Curry: no idea what Robo

2964
02:55:18,600 --> 02:55:22,380
John C Dvorak: he said 70 threes
who Bo? Oh, I don't see 70

2965
02:55:22,380 --> 02:55:25,530
threes. Because it was on the
note it wasn't Oh,

2966
02:55:25,590 --> 02:55:30,180
Adam Curry: well that's not a
Dutch callsign the Papa Papa

2967
02:55:30,180 --> 02:55:31,230
hotel Papa.

2968
02:55:32,160 --> 02:55:35,640
John C Dvorak: The Michael
golian. In Rockford Illinois. It

2969
02:55:35,670 --> 02:55:41,850
at 836 that a happy birthday
call on Sally a don't a Domo in

2970
02:55:41,850 --> 02:55:45,870
Palm City, Florida 808 Nisa de
douching

2971
02:55:48,330 --> 02:55:49,500
Unknown: de deuced.

2972
02:55:52,170 --> 02:55:54,750
John C Dvorak: Also Brogan
donation, Kevin McLaughlin in

2973
02:55:54,750 --> 02:55:58,230
Concord, North Carolina. 808. Of
course, he's the Archduke Aluna

2974
02:55:58,230 --> 02:56:04,800
lover of American boobs. Eric
Adler 808 moves for him.

2975
02:56:05,070 --> 02:56:13,110
Franklin. Month mantero A
Monteros monster Rosa in Dodge

2976
02:56:13,110 --> 02:56:20,820
City is in Dodge City, Kansas.
808. He wants housekeeper karma

2977
02:56:20,910 --> 02:56:24,780
we'll give you that whatever
that means at the end. Maybe

2978
02:56:24,780 --> 02:56:26,100
Schwarzenegger knows about well,
you

2979
02:56:26,100 --> 02:56:28,350
Adam Curry: know it's the
housekeeper you should be

2980
02:56:28,380 --> 02:56:32,190
working in the house. That's
what that's what the kicker said

2981
02:56:32,220 --> 02:56:36,540
the kicker said the housekeeper
I get it. His wife your wife is

2982
02:56:36,540 --> 02:56:38,070
a good wife. She's the
housekeeper

2983
02:56:39,480 --> 02:56:44,400
John C Dvorak: they Carol in
Lawton, Nevada 7227 Anonymous

2984
02:56:44,400 --> 02:56:51,090
7192 at the birthday call out.
Matthew Martel is in the cognac

2985
02:56:51,090 --> 02:56:58,560
and brew mall Pennsylvania
$70.26. He says due to the

2986
02:56:58,560 --> 02:57:02,610
overwhelming success of the bond
Gino coupon code campaign that's

2987
02:57:02,610 --> 02:57:09,390
where he got his savings. Send
us the money you know one of

2988
02:57:09,390 --> 02:57:12,060
these days Bungie is going to
find out about this. This is

2989
02:57:12,060 --> 02:57:12,270
what

2990
02:57:12,270 --> 02:57:15,600
Adam Curry: listen this whole
thing he says help me help you

2991
02:57:15,600 --> 02:57:19,350
visit Martel hardware.com use
code six handicap for an

2992
02:57:19,350 --> 02:57:23,250
additional 10% off Hey, bad idea
supply follow me back on

2993
02:57:23,250 --> 02:57:27,720
Instagram. What is going on
here? I don't know. Code Vaughn

2994
02:57:27,720 --> 02:57:28,380
Gino

2995
02:57:30,180 --> 02:57:33,540
John C Dvorak: Greg Kohler in
Evansville, Indiana. 6502.

2996
02:57:33,540 --> 02:57:39,270
That's a chip. James Buell in
Vista, California 606 small

2997
02:57:39,270 --> 02:57:43,440
boobs, Dame Stephanie and
Chandler Arizona. 606 as a

2998
02:57:43,440 --> 02:57:46,980
birthday call out for her my
lovely husband, Sir Don.

2999
02:57:48,060 --> 02:57:50,070
Adam Curry: Oh, she says Love
you baby. Sorry, I missed the

3000
02:57:50,070 --> 02:57:53,040
shout out on 627. Good Woman.

3001
02:57:53,580 --> 02:57:59,580
John C Dvorak: Ryan Danielle in
Omaha, Nebraska. 5555. Brock

3002
02:57:59,610 --> 02:58:02,460
Bradshaw. 5307 needs a de
douching

3003
02:58:04,500 --> 02:58:09,060
Adam Curry: van de Deus. That's
Brock. Brock used to be your UPS

3004
02:58:09,060 --> 02:58:09,690
driver.

3005
02:58:10,770 --> 02:58:12,750
John C Dvorak: I wonder if
that's why I think it is. Yeah,

3006
02:58:12,750 --> 02:58:13,020
well, he's

3007
02:58:13,020 --> 02:58:16,440
Adam Curry: no longer UPS driver
that I have not seen Bronco,

3008
02:58:16,470 --> 02:58:20,070
John C Dvorak: I always
wondered. Now if I recall, this

3009
02:58:20,070 --> 02:58:24,600
guy. He used to be our ups are
forever. And Rimini always

3010
02:58:24,600 --> 02:58:27,210
spotted him because he would
show up. He's one of these

3011
02:58:27,480 --> 02:58:33,930
ridiculous the least he got
older, but I would say in the

3012
02:58:33,930 --> 02:58:41,070
90s he was a ridiculously good
looking guy. And he and he would

3013
02:58:41,070 --> 02:58:43,440
go and be delivery seven and all
of a sudden the truck could be

3014
02:58:43,440 --> 02:58:48,060
parked somewhere. It's like a
policeman halfwits called beep

3015
02:58:48,060 --> 02:58:53,010
wife. Yeah, it's not a wife they
beat it's a girl that while

3016
02:58:53,010 --> 02:58:55,470
they're on duty, they will stop
being in the cop car

3017
02:58:55,470 --> 02:58:58,080
Adam Curry: in front of the
house baby. Here they want to

3018
02:58:58,080 --> 02:58:59,640
see my gun. So every

3019
02:58:59,640 --> 02:59:03,930
John C Dvorak: once in a while
the delivery was always like

3020
02:59:03,930 --> 02:59:10,290
clockwork came at three would
come at 7pm Yeah. And the guy

3021
02:59:10,290 --> 02:59:13,830
always looked like he was beaten
you look I was worn out crew.

3022
02:59:13,890 --> 02:59:17,100
Adam Curry: Long time. Long day.
Long day in the office, dear.

3023
02:59:17,730 --> 02:59:20,700
He's probably doing he's
probably doing big parts in the

3024
02:59:20,700 --> 02:59:21,450
Hollywood. No.

3025
02:59:22,800 --> 02:59:30,030
John C Dvorak: He probably
could. I'm glad he listens. He

3026
02:59:30,030 --> 02:59:32,670
keeps saying no agenda some of
the times this UPS

3027
02:59:32,670 --> 02:59:34,020
Adam Curry: Special Delivery
Man.

3028
02:59:35,820 --> 02:59:40,890
John C Dvorak: Zachary Metzinger
Oh, this is the guy this is n

3029
02:59:40,890 --> 02:59:48,210
o's and zero ZG oh and South
Lake Texas. That's the GAO came

3030
02:59:48,210 --> 02:59:53,520
up with 70 threes. Yeah, there
you go. Okay. And $50.33 Scott

3031
02:59:53,520 --> 02:59:58,500
now, Nelson in Council Bluffs,
Iowa. 5001. That's a check. Now

3032
02:59:58,500 --> 03:00:02,430
we got the $50 donors. We don't
have a lot of donors today but

3033
03:00:02,460 --> 03:00:05,910
you know hopefully on July the
Fourth Coming up either July 4

3034
03:00:05,910 --> 03:00:10,050
weekend, the weekend special
have two great shows and people

3035
03:00:10,410 --> 03:00:15,840
all chip in to be patriotic ZEV
green in Teaneck, New Jersey 50

3036
03:00:16,320 --> 03:00:22,710
In Naki Esparza Ellaria Ziya le
ri Agha Ellery alga Laurie Agha,

3037
03:00:22,830 --> 03:00:28,140
there it is the Laurie Agha in
Mexico and in Mexico City Hello

3038
03:00:28,140 --> 03:00:33,510
Mexico City Leif Thompson in
Meridian Idaho. David Steele in

3039
03:00:33,510 --> 03:00:42,660
Mobile Alabama, Justin Caylor in
Bluffton, Indiana Anna balls in

3040
03:00:43,140 --> 03:00:47,550
Whitestone Indiana Brian sharp
in Huntsville Alabama second

3041
03:00:47,580 --> 03:00:49,410
Adam Curry: gotta read this
because oh yeah, this

3042
03:00:49,410 --> 03:00:51,030
John C Dvorak: is she gets
updated or she gets this a

3043
03:00:51,030 --> 03:00:52,050
switcheroo actually

3044
03:00:52,080 --> 03:00:55,170
Adam Curry: with with a
knighting for her husband ITM

3045
03:00:55,170 --> 03:00:57,840
Jenson noticed a while back my
layaway donation had earned

3046
03:00:57,840 --> 03:01:01,170
night status. A gift I've been
donating towards for my smokin

3047
03:01:01,170 --> 03:01:05,490
hot husband Kevin balls with one
L but since then I've been

3048
03:01:05,490 --> 03:01:08,280
struggling to get him to tell me
what he wants to be known as at

3049
03:01:08,280 --> 03:01:11,460
the roundtable. He finally caved
and wishes to be knighted, sir

3050
03:01:11,460 --> 03:01:15,840
andeavor He just wants the usual
no frills but he sure appreciate

3051
03:01:16,440 --> 03:01:21,660
you what how do you pronounce
that? A young Ling is a young

3052
03:01:21,660 --> 03:01:24,420
black and tan. A human being
black and tan. Is that

3053
03:01:24,690 --> 03:01:28,290
John C Dvorak: a young Ling?
Yes, it's a Chinese beer. I

3054
03:01:28,290 --> 03:01:31,140
Adam Curry: think a young Ling
Yun Ling black and tan to

3055
03:01:31,140 --> 03:01:34,260
accompany the mutton and mean
time to work towards my own Dame

3056
03:01:34,260 --> 03:01:37,710
status. How about that? That's a
good housekeeper given away the

3057
03:01:37,710 --> 03:01:42,330
knighthood to her man first.
Thanks for all you do and four

3058
03:01:42,330 --> 03:01:45,690
more years. Yes, good
housekeeper good housekeeper.

3059
03:01:46,440 --> 03:01:48,450
John C Dvorak: Housekeeper.
Brian sharp in Huntsville,

3060
03:01:48,450 --> 03:01:52,560
Alabama. I said Brandon Locklear
and excuse me,

3061
03:01:52,620 --> 03:01:53,400
Adam Curry: oh man.

3062
03:01:55,290 --> 03:01:56,310
Unknown: For years

3063
03:01:57,870 --> 03:02:01,170
John C Dvorak: Brandon Locklear
and Sugar Hill, Georgia and Sir

3064
03:02:01,170 --> 03:02:05,160
Pierre's last on the list. He's
in Farmington, Connecticut $50.

3065
03:02:05,160 --> 03:02:09,090
And he came in with a stripe
contribution. And I want to say

3066
03:02:09,090 --> 03:02:12,300
mentioned somebody we had this
whole group, we have two people

3067
03:02:12,300 --> 03:02:15,030
that donate via stripe, after
listening to all the

3068
03:02:15,030 --> 03:02:18,870
complaining. So we put stripe on
there and nobody uses it just to

3069
03:02:19,500 --> 03:02:20,640
discuss at that point.

3070
03:02:21,630 --> 03:02:25,980
Adam Curry: People use it, too.
We had to two all right as to

3071
03:02:26,910 --> 03:02:29,460
thank you to all these donors
who came in $50 and above.

3072
03:02:29,460 --> 03:02:31,350
Again, thank you to the
executive and Associate

3073
03:02:31,350 --> 03:02:35,640
Executive Producer for episode
1673. You are all producers. We

3074
03:02:35,640 --> 03:02:38,250
thank those producers under 50
who are there for reasons of

3075
03:02:38,250 --> 03:02:42,090
anonymity and the sustaining
donations very important to us,

3076
03:02:42,090 --> 03:02:44,940
please, whatever the show is
worth to you support us with

3077
03:02:44,940 --> 03:02:48,120
that amount. Do it on a regular
basis, do it monthly do whatever

3078
03:02:48,120 --> 03:02:50,790
it is. As long as you're
contributing back you will sleep

3079
03:02:50,790 --> 03:02:54,120
peacefully knowing that you are
also producing the no agenda

3080
03:02:54,120 --> 03:02:58,410
show the best podcast in the
universe. Karma as requested

3081
03:02:58,410 --> 03:03:02,280
also a special health karma for
Darren O'Neill's father in law,

3082
03:03:02,280 --> 03:03:08,070
Steve zego, who had a heart
attack and is having bypass

3083
03:03:08,070 --> 03:03:12,180
surgery this week. So we
certainly want him to feel much

3084
03:03:12,180 --> 03:03:15,000
better and do well and I'm
praying for him and thank you to

3085
03:03:15,000 --> 03:03:21,270
all who supported the no agenda
show. He's got karma, no agenda

3086
03:03:21,270 --> 03:03:22,500
donations.com.

3087
03:03:28,950 --> 03:03:31,920
And there we have anonymous who
wishes her smokin hot husband a

3088
03:03:31,920 --> 03:03:36,510
happy birthday he turns 32 on
July 1. On behalf of her and the

3089
03:03:36,540 --> 03:03:40,950
human resources. Ralph hamburger
wishes his fiancee Christina a

3090
03:03:40,950 --> 03:03:44,520
very happy birthday she's
turning 33 Dame Stephanie says

3091
03:03:44,520 --> 03:03:47,430
Stephanie says Happy Birthday to
a loving husband Sir Don of

3092
03:03:47,430 --> 03:03:50,760
Chandler and Matthew golian is
celebrating we say happy

3093
03:03:50,760 --> 03:03:53,280
birthday from everybody here at
the best podcast in the

3094
03:03:53,280 --> 03:03:59,430
universe. And we do have that
one knighting for for Kevin

3095
03:03:59,430 --> 03:04:02,670
ball. So let's bring out the
blade his housekeeper donated

3096
03:04:02,670 --> 03:04:09,630
this this knighthood so Hey,
how's yours? Oh hello, Kevin.

3097
03:04:10,800 --> 03:04:13,470
You better be hugging my wife
yours man. She's a good one.

3098
03:04:13,470 --> 03:04:17,730
She's a keeper. Thanks to her
supportive $1,000 is a layaway

3099
03:04:17,730 --> 03:04:22,500
night giving it to you I am very
proud to pronounce the KB as sir

3100
03:04:22,530 --> 03:04:26,550
and never night of the no agenda
round table for you by request.

3101
03:04:26,700 --> 03:04:31,050
We have Yun Ling black and tan
along with mutton and meat of

3102
03:04:31,050 --> 03:04:34,410
course but along with that, in
case you're wondering what we

3103
03:04:34,410 --> 03:04:38,130
have well we have some gauges in
stock a vodka and vanilla we

3104
03:04:38,130 --> 03:04:41,370
also have bong hits and bourbon
sparkling cider an escort ginger

3105
03:04:41,370 --> 03:04:44,730
ale and Jeroboam got breast milk
and pablum Rubenesque moving and

3106
03:04:44,730 --> 03:04:48,510
rose a cow girls and coffee
barns very tasty. But I see you

3107
03:04:48,510 --> 03:04:50,430
can already Yeah, you got the
mutton in the meat. That's why

3108
03:04:50,430 --> 03:04:53,790
you wanted the youngling black
and tan and go to no agenda

3109
03:04:53,790 --> 03:04:57,540
rings.com Go to it with your
wife so she can select the right

3110
03:04:57,540 --> 03:05:00,660
size makes makes you What are
you doing? Man,

3111
03:05:01,620 --> 03:05:03,240
John C Dvorak: this thing it
just, I have a bunch of

3112
03:05:03,240 --> 03:05:05,700
noisemakers I have not been
using. Yes.

3113
03:05:06,390 --> 03:05:08,490
Adam Curry: I've gotten
complaints when he was happy and

3114
03:05:08,490 --> 03:05:13,200
more noisemakers from John no
agenda rings.com And there's a

3115
03:05:13,200 --> 03:05:15,330
ring sizing guide there we will
send it along with our

3116
03:05:15,330 --> 03:05:18,600
certificate of authenticity and
because of signet ring you'll

3117
03:05:18,600 --> 03:05:21,720
get some wax that you can melt
and then seal your important

3118
03:05:21,720 --> 03:05:24,840
correspondence with it thank you
very much to you sir and to your

3119
03:05:24,840 --> 03:05:27,930
wife for becoming a night of the
no agenda routing know what?

3120
03:05:35,010 --> 03:05:37,830
The no agenda meetups, I think
there'll be a number of them

3121
03:05:37,890 --> 03:05:41,580
this coming weekend. People like
to meet each other whenever they

3122
03:05:41,580 --> 03:05:44,760
can. And whenever there's an
excuse, but people just meet all

3123
03:05:44,760 --> 03:05:47,580
the time at these meetups you
can go to no agenda meetups.com

3124
03:05:48,210 --> 03:05:51,810
You can find your tribe which is
the no agenda tribe you'd be

3125
03:05:51,810 --> 03:05:55,800
amazed how quickly you make
friends especially if you feel

3126
03:05:55,800 --> 03:05:58,920
like I'm shy I'm not too social.
Go to a meetup you'll find

3127
03:05:59,040 --> 03:06:02,370
people that you can connect with
and as always connection is

3128
03:06:02,370 --> 03:06:07,020
protection. We have Leo Bravo in
Los Angeles think he does a

3129
03:06:07,020 --> 03:06:09,990
meetup. It seems like every week
but it's probably every month

3130
03:06:10,290 --> 03:06:13,290
where every two weeks here's the
meetup they did it the Boomtown

3131
03:06:13,290 --> 03:06:14,670
brewery in LA Hey

3132
03:06:14,670 --> 03:06:19,020
Unknown: everybody, it's Leo
Bravo at meet up number 53.

3133
03:06:20,910 --> 03:06:25,110
Passing the phone around my
friends that seems to say Hey,

3134
03:06:25,110 --> 03:06:28,350
Adam and John we're here at
Boomtown brewing in downtown LA

3135
03:06:28,530 --> 03:06:32,040
beautiful downtown LA don't
leave your stuff in your car

3136
03:06:32,040 --> 03:06:32,460
though.

3137
03:06:32,610 --> 03:06:36,360
It is B dizzle. And I'm gonna go
look forward to some mushrooms

3138
03:06:36,360 --> 03:06:44,310
later on. I've got hairy legs or
Leah Kim for us pretty good

3139
03:06:44,310 --> 03:06:49,590
morning guys. Guys in the
morning in the morning. Oh 123.

3140
03:06:51,570 --> 03:06:54,450
Adam Curry: Hairy legs was
wasn't bad sounded very Jewish.

3141
03:06:55,080 --> 03:06:58,080
One of the biggest meetups over
100 people every single time

3142
03:06:58,080 --> 03:07:01,590
they do one mark and Maria de
mon nights they organize it in

3143
03:07:01,590 --> 03:07:02,250
Indy.

3144
03:07:02,430 --> 03:07:05,430
Unknown: There's a certain mark
and this is a Maria so happy to

3145
03:07:05,430 --> 03:07:07,410
be on the north side of
Indianapolis with a marvelous

3146
03:07:07,410 --> 03:07:09,360
gang of no agenda acolytes. We

3147
03:07:09,360 --> 03:07:13,950
are ready for vacation. This is
syrup of the maple wear

3148
03:07:13,950 --> 03:07:14,760
sunscreen

3149
03:07:14,790 --> 03:07:18,090
hi this is Niels above and I'd
like to call out each bag Scott

3150
03:07:18,090 --> 03:07:18,750
has a nice bag

3151
03:07:18,780 --> 03:07:21,360
this is Kyle from Zionsville
thank you for an excellent

3152
03:07:21,360 --> 03:07:24,960
product this is Nick I arrive at
the meet up there's only $4 in

3153
03:07:24,960 --> 03:07:28,800
my pocket I look at my car four
quarters I have $5 I can buy one

3154
03:07:28,800 --> 03:07:31,740
raffle ticket I get my money to
mark it guess what happens next?

3155
03:07:31,800 --> 03:07:35,040
I lost hi this is Dame Cindy of
the Tito's thank you for your

3156
03:07:35,040 --> 03:07:37,260
courage Nick just you know it's
rigged.

3157
03:07:37,560 --> 03:07:40,410
This is sort of with a maple
whatever you do, don't wear

3158
03:07:40,410 --> 03:07:45,420
sunscreen. Tom not from Carmel
Let My People Go fisting my nuts

3159
03:07:45,450 --> 03:07:45,930
still.

3160
03:07:45,960 --> 03:07:50,820
This is Kira from Carmel and I'm
all tatted up for Trump Serbia

3161
03:07:50,820 --> 03:07:54,660
walking his damn barn today and
this guy goes Hey, all lawyers

3162
03:07:54,660 --> 03:07:57,870
are douchebags I said I think I
don't like that statement. Why

3163
03:07:57,900 --> 03:07:59,280
are you a lawyer? No, I'm

3164
03:07:59,280 --> 03:08:00,780
a douchebag and

3165
03:08:00,780 --> 03:08:04,140
Morning John Adams sir PVR St.
King and there's no evidence

3166
03:08:04,170 --> 03:08:05,820
that there was a rigging of the

3167
03:08:05,820 --> 03:08:09,990
election. Dame Trinity from Fort
Wayne visiting Indianapolis

3168
03:08:10,020 --> 03:08:12,660
third meet up in three days you
guys got to go to a meet up

3169
03:08:12,660 --> 03:08:16,230
Dame Swanee what are they going
to shoot up Biden's das this

3170
03:08:16,230 --> 03:08:16,710
time?

3171
03:08:16,740 --> 03:08:19,350
This is Dietrich from
Indianapolis with President

3172
03:08:19,350 --> 03:08:25,860
Donald J. Trump. We who make no
agenda again trust me I pray

3173
03:08:25,890 --> 03:08:29,550
again it's gonna be huge. It's
gonna be great in the morning.

3174
03:08:29,580 --> 03:08:31,740
Hey, it's Gary from Greenwood
notice that we had four new

3175
03:08:31,740 --> 03:08:33,780
people I think there's some
speaks in here though.

3176
03:08:33,840 --> 03:08:36,990
I'm Carl and Arielle and we just
moved from Virginia so we might

3177
03:08:36,990 --> 03:08:37,680
be the spooks

3178
03:08:37,710 --> 03:08:40,890
out are from Indianapolis. Once
again more water with this Greg

3179
03:08:40,890 --> 03:08:43,800
group. Sadly no more sportsball
though in the morning Hey,

3180
03:08:43,800 --> 03:08:47,400
this is Diane from Greenwood.
How in the world do you follow

3181
03:08:47,400 --> 03:08:51,300
up this? Hi my name is Katie and
we're at blind Albery and the no

3182
03:08:51,300 --> 03:08:54,090
agenda people came to visit and
they were absolutely lovely,

3183
03:08:54,090 --> 03:08:55,260
wonderful, wonderful people

3184
03:09:03,120 --> 03:09:05,430
Adam Curry: that crazy Monday
let's check in with Columbus

3185
03:09:05,430 --> 03:09:06,030
Ohio

3186
03:09:06,090 --> 03:09:08,970
Unknown: in the Morning John and
abs are PVR street gang from the

3187
03:09:08,970 --> 03:09:13,410
Central Ohio meetup. The tip of
the day go to meet up you'll

3188
03:09:13,410 --> 03:09:13,920
learn something

3189
03:09:14,070 --> 03:09:17,820
steam Trinity having a great
time in Columbus, Ohio in the

3190
03:09:17,820 --> 03:09:21,810
morning. In the morning. This is
Eric Shafi where I am on the

3191
03:09:21,810 --> 03:09:24,420
lookout for elder abuse. In

3192
03:09:24,420 --> 03:09:27,420
the morning you turkeys keep on
truckin and I hope you find your

3193
03:09:27,420 --> 03:09:28,050
exit ramp.

3194
03:09:28,290 --> 03:09:31,050
This is Miss flowers, the Best
Bartender Dempsey is having a

3195
03:09:31,050 --> 03:09:33,630
great time with these people tip
your bartenders folks.

3196
03:09:36,900 --> 03:09:40,230
Thank you gentlemen. This is Sir
Larry. I'm so glad to be back

3197
03:09:40,230 --> 03:09:45,450
here at Dempsey's in Columbus by
the way. We'll be here in four

3198
03:09:45,450 --> 03:09:45,900
weeks.

3199
03:09:46,110 --> 03:09:48,720
Adam Curry: I love it when they
bring in the the bartenders

3200
03:09:48,720 --> 03:09:51,780
that's always good final meetup
report from Kansas City. Hello

3201
03:09:54,420 --> 03:09:56,850
Unknown: Spencer well for Kansas
City here with the latest KC

3202
03:09:56,850 --> 03:09:59,040
meetup report. We're out here
with some old friends and new

3203
03:09:59,040 --> 03:10:02,040
friends and joining us Andruw
Jones books in the some some

3204
03:10:02,040 --> 03:10:07,110
summertime. This is doctors are
otter of the flatwater in the

3205
03:10:07,110 --> 03:10:10,800
morning, hey is Lee Kumar away
from the one?

3206
03:10:11,820 --> 03:10:15,150
This is Searcy Mike at the YM
doet antidote to larger Megalis

3207
03:10:15,600 --> 03:10:18,810
and hey JCD it's 91 of the CHE
but I'm still on my first shirt.

3208
03:10:19,050 --> 03:10:23,790
We employed our slave I mean,
human resource to grill the

3209
03:10:23,790 --> 03:10:28,290
burgers and dogs. KC wolf
brought some amazing ribs. We're

3210
03:10:28,290 --> 03:10:31,980
enjoying a good time. boggle.

3211
03:10:35,610 --> 03:10:40,050
Lorien here enjoying bowl after
bowl of home cooked goodness.

3212
03:10:40,680 --> 03:10:44,010
In the morning, Columbia
represent and then new friends

3213
03:10:44,220 --> 03:10:51,420
at the playground. Like having
this Marcellin rally nice. You

3214
03:10:51,420 --> 03:10:55,950
like going to meetups sometimes?
Yes. Sometimes no.

3215
03:10:57,330 --> 03:10:58,920
Some fun out here today.

3216
03:10:59,550 --> 03:11:02,940
If he wasn't here, you missed
out. See y'all next time.

3217
03:11:04,920 --> 03:11:07,560
Adam Curry: Nothing like some
child abuse at the meetups.

3218
03:11:07,560 --> 03:11:11,880
Very, very good. Thank you all
for your reports. We have no

3219
03:11:11,880 --> 03:11:15,720
meetups on the Alexa we have one
today. Long views lively laugh

3220
03:11:15,720 --> 03:11:20,130
loaded midsummer meet up the
hangover special. That is

3221
03:11:20,130 --> 03:11:22,770
starting in 10 minutes in
Longview, Texas at Rotolo

3222
03:11:22,770 --> 03:11:28,590
pizzeria. On Thursday. We have
the longest standing member

3223
03:11:28,590 --> 03:11:33,210
London meet up at six o'clock.
The real ale weigh in London

3224
03:11:33,210 --> 03:11:37,890
that'll be London Kent it says
Bromley SE and I think Guelph

3225
03:11:37,890 --> 03:11:39,840
did a AMITA promo for us

3226
03:11:42,120 --> 03:11:47,370
Unknown: humble human resources
of gizmo East a post votes

3227
03:11:47,400 --> 03:11:51,990
polling party meet up on the
Fourth of July is occurring at

3228
03:11:52,050 --> 03:11:54,150
the real la micro pub

3229
03:11:54,180 --> 03:12:00,840
in Hays Kent. From 6pm to
whenever you're kicked out,

3230
03:12:00,840 --> 03:12:05,100
you'll find me who have and the
London and the Southeast, no

3231
03:12:05,100 --> 03:12:12,690
agenda and creme de la creme
celebrating for the best podcast

3232
03:12:12,750 --> 03:12:13,860
in a Yoda.

3233
03:12:14,670 --> 03:12:16,650
Adam Curry: Well Who can argue
with that you got to go to that

3234
03:12:16,650 --> 03:12:20,250
meetup. There's many more on the
calendar for the fifth it's

3235
03:12:20,280 --> 03:12:22,920
Fremantle Western Australia. I'd
love to have a meet up from you

3236
03:12:22,920 --> 03:12:25,860
guys on the sixth San Diego
California also on the sixth

3237
03:12:25,860 --> 03:12:29,220
Amsterdam, the Netherlands. And
man there's just too many

3238
03:12:29,220 --> 03:12:31,500
dimension there's a lot coming
up in the month of July of

3239
03:12:31,500 --> 03:12:35,190
course it is the summer month go
to no agenda meetups.com Find a

3240
03:12:35,190 --> 03:12:38,850
meetup near you. It is where you
will find your clan your family

3241
03:12:38,850 --> 03:12:43,350
and as always, connection brings
protection no agenda meet

3242
03:12:43,350 --> 03:12:44,280
ups.com

3243
03:12:44,310 --> 03:12:50,130
Unknown: Sometimes you want to
go hang out with Dyson days.

3244
03:12:51,270 --> 03:13:02,850
You'd be triggered. You'd have
to say that is like

3245
03:13:05,010 --> 03:13:08,670
Adam Curry: Alright, let's do
some ISOs I'm over I sewed so

3246
03:13:08,670 --> 03:13:09,960
let's do yours first.

3247
03:13:10,290 --> 03:13:12,840
John C Dvorak: So he I have to I
have to so you have a lot you

3248
03:13:12,840 --> 03:13:19,320
can win. But I have to one is
his get to my two first. I got

3249
03:13:19,320 --> 03:13:22,920
nothing. Nothing changes if
nothing changes.

3250
03:13:24,060 --> 03:13:26,130
Adam Curry: Okay, not bad,
actually. Not bad.

3251
03:13:26,760 --> 03:13:29,400
John C Dvorak: And then I get
another Wow. Wow.

3252
03:13:30,270 --> 03:13:32,520
Adam Curry: Yeah, the wilds they
just aren't winning lately.

3253
03:13:32,760 --> 03:13:35,130
John C Dvorak: In other words,
if it isn't that good. Wow. All

3254
03:13:35,130 --> 03:13:35,370
right.

3255
03:13:35,700 --> 03:13:37,470
Adam Curry: I'll just run
through a couple see if you like

3256
03:13:37,470 --> 03:13:37,620
them.

3257
03:13:37,650 --> 03:13:39,480
Unknown: period, period period.

3258
03:13:40,920 --> 03:13:42,990
Adam Curry: I didn't think you'd
like that. Here's this. I do

3259
03:13:42,990 --> 03:13:46,380
like you do like that one. But
this absolutely

3260
03:13:46,380 --> 03:13:48,120
Unknown: bananas. No.

3261
03:13:49,500 --> 03:13:55,200
The informative and hilarious.
No agenda podcast. Megan Kelly.

3262
03:13:56,100 --> 03:13:58,140
Adam Curry: When did she say
that? When I was on the show?

3263
03:13:58,140 --> 03:13:58,830
Someone clipped

3264
03:13:58,830 --> 03:14:00,540
John C Dvorak: it for this along
this an old clip.

3265
03:14:00,720 --> 03:14:01,740
Unknown: I hate sports.

3266
03:14:02,430 --> 03:14:07,710
Adam Curry: Come on, man. Come
on. We have this one. Oh

3267
03:14:07,710 --> 03:14:09,240
Unknown: my god. Oh my god. Oh
my god.

3268
03:14:10,320 --> 03:14:11,520
John C Dvorak: Okay, that's the
winner.

3269
03:14:11,550 --> 03:14:13,830
Adam Curry: Well, one more one
more. This is a couple of kids.

3270
03:14:13,860 --> 03:14:14,190
See

3271
03:14:14,190 --> 03:14:16,440
Unknown: that picture? What's
that in your mouth?

3272
03:14:17,640 --> 03:14:23,220
John C Dvorak: It's cute. It's
cute. is sick. You like this?

3273
03:14:23,220 --> 03:14:25,860
Unknown: Oh my god. Oh my god.
Oh my god. Like that one. Yeah,

3274
03:14:25,860 --> 03:14:25,980
I

3275
03:14:25,980 --> 03:14:26,610
John C Dvorak: liked that way.

3276
03:14:26,640 --> 03:14:27,540
Adam Curry: We'll do that one
then.

3277
03:14:29,700 --> 03:14:34,440
Unknown: Good news. It's good
advice. John sees too big the

3278
03:14:34,440 --> 03:14:34,860
day

3279
03:14:35,520 --> 03:14:37,560
Adam Curry: for them for the
day, which people seem to be

3280
03:14:37,560 --> 03:14:41,640
running away from. I got a lot
of emails about the CamScanner.

3281
03:14:41,670 --> 03:14:45,870
Have you got them? People? No,
no, it's spyware.

3282
03:14:46,830 --> 03:14:48,840
John C Dvorak: Current version
of CamScanner doesn't have

3283
03:14:48,840 --> 03:14:49,860
malware on it.

3284
03:14:49,980 --> 03:14:51,690
Adam Curry: Okay, okay. All
right. Well,

3285
03:14:51,720 --> 03:14:54,210
John C Dvorak: I'm glad just a
reasonably short period of time

3286
03:14:54,210 --> 03:14:55,800
where somebody slipped in we
only

3287
03:14:55,800 --> 03:14:58,050
Adam Curry: cared about j we
just didn't want to have j does

3288
03:14:58,050 --> 03:15:00,720
she have an iPhone? She must
have an iPhone. As the Android,

3289
03:15:00,840 --> 03:15:04,320
she has an Android phone, oh,
man, you should scan that thing.

3290
03:15:06,240 --> 03:15:08,070
John C Dvorak: Of course, why
would there is a make

3291
03:15:09,510 --> 03:15:11,610
Adam Curry: your if you have an
Android, you got enough spyware

3292
03:15:11,610 --> 03:15:13,020
on there from Google,

3293
03:15:13,380 --> 03:15:15,960
John C Dvorak: everything
spyware in an Android. So that's

3294
03:15:15,960 --> 03:15:19,260
right, I'm gonna bring up a
product another product people

3295
03:15:19,260 --> 03:15:22,020
should have. And this is an old
product that I've been promoting

3296
03:15:22,020 --> 03:15:26,730
for at least 30 years. But I
want to promote it to get it out

3297
03:15:26,730 --> 03:15:32,400
of the way. So if somebody wants
to say anything, this is a a

3298
03:15:33,270 --> 03:15:37,860
Image Viewer and minor editor,
you can do some editing with it,

3299
03:15:37,860 --> 03:15:43,980
but nothing major. And it's
called IrfanView, I RFANVI Ew,

3300
03:15:43,980 --> 03:15:45,600
you can you can just remember

3301
03:15:45,600 --> 03:15:47,640
Adam Curry: friend use this for
Windows only.

3302
03:15:48,930 --> 03:15:52,590
John C Dvorak: I believe it's
only windows, okay. I could be

3303
03:15:52,590 --> 03:15:57,240
wrong, I don't really care. But
IrfanView is a terrific product,

3304
03:15:57,240 --> 03:16:00,570
and it's got it's got and you
should get the plugins for it.

3305
03:16:01,020 --> 03:16:07,590
Because it will open legacy
legacy photos Legacy Digital

3306
03:16:07,590 --> 03:16:12,990
stuff, including, I think it's k
d f files, which a lot of

3307
03:16:13,260 --> 03:16:17,640
systems just will not open, they
refuse to deal with them. And

3308
03:16:17,640 --> 03:16:22,470
KDF is the original in the early
days of digital photography,

3309
03:16:23,130 --> 03:16:27,120
Kodak was actually one of the
top companies they were

3310
03:16:27,120 --> 03:16:30,630
developing sensors and they they
put a couple of these sensors in

3311
03:16:30,630 --> 03:16:33,930
a big Nikon and then they start
bringing out their own cameras.

3312
03:16:34,200 --> 03:16:37,470
And they had their own digital
format for the photos called KDF

3313
03:16:37,470 --> 03:16:40,110
Kodak digital format and that's
kind of if you could look it up

3314
03:16:40,110 --> 03:16:44,520
you won't even find that
anymore. Generally it's a change

3315
03:16:44,520 --> 03:16:46,470
and I don't know if they change
the name or they don't know what

3316
03:16:46,470 --> 03:16:49,950
it means. But opening those old
photos you need something like

3317
03:16:49,950 --> 03:16:53,310
IrfanView and then you can save
the file as a JPEG if you want

3318
03:16:53,310 --> 03:16:58,260
to keep those old those old
structures but this is a

3319
03:16:58,320 --> 03:17:02,100
terrific product I've been using
it forever and I say highly

3320
03:17:02,100 --> 03:17:02,760
recommended

3321
03:17:03,150 --> 03:17:06,090
Adam Curry: there's there's some
file some picture format that

3322
03:17:06,090 --> 03:17:09,540
sometimes they get from people
on an iPhone when they email it

3323
03:17:09,540 --> 03:17:13,650
to me it has a weird extension I
can't remember like it's not def

3324
03:17:13,650 --> 03:17:15,990
or something really odd and

3325
03:17:16,200 --> 03:17:18,210
John C Dvorak: that is a bunch
of new file formats that

3326
03:17:18,210 --> 03:17:23,220
Adam Curry: are odd H E IC
that's it he i c h e I will

3327
03:17:23,220 --> 03:17:25,410
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you the
IrfanView probably has a plugin

3328
03:17:25,410 --> 03:17:29,100
for it I'm sure they did you
know that this the only system I

3329
03:17:29,100 --> 03:17:30,540
found that opens everything.

3330
03:17:30,660 --> 03:17:32,820
Adam Curry: Wonder what that
stands for HBIC

3331
03:17:34,860 --> 03:17:37,290
John C Dvorak: we can look it up
well you can consult the book

3332
03:17:37,290 --> 03:17:37,380
and

3333
03:17:37,380 --> 03:17:40,650
Adam Curry: knowledge oh why
bother? Irfan view is the tip of

3334
03:17:40,650 --> 03:17:41,820
the day everybody says

3335
03:17:41,820 --> 03:17:44,790
Unknown: Ben, you're to the day.
Thanks for listening.

3336
03:17:45,720 --> 03:17:47,400
Y'all come back now you hear?

3337
03:17:49,230 --> 03:17:52,350
Adam Curry: And it's free. It's
free. It's free. It's freeware.

3338
03:17:52,890 --> 03:17:55,740
Just like Microsoft wants you to
have it freeware. It's on the

3339
03:17:55,740 --> 03:18:00,090
web. It's the social contract,
man. Everybody should have one

3340
03:18:00,090 --> 03:18:05,700
of those. A coming up next on no
agenda stream.com or in that

3341
03:18:05,700 --> 03:18:09,090
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3343
03:18:14,280 --> 03:18:17,670
John, how can we not stick
around to listen to that and get

3344
03:18:17,670 --> 03:18:20,190
around? gotta stick around for
that that's gonna be good.

3345
03:18:21,090 --> 03:18:24,690
Actually, I think it is really
good. Like some big music

3346
03:18:24,840 --> 03:18:31,080
Bonanza value for value music in
the value verse. And we have a

3347
03:18:31,080 --> 03:18:34,950
new show mixes from David Katka.
We have of course, Tom

3348
03:18:34,950 --> 03:18:39,600
Starkweather with Alex on sits
and Professor J. Jones from

3349
03:18:39,600 --> 03:18:42,990
China. And I'm coming to you
from the heart of the Texas Hill

3350
03:18:42,990 --> 03:18:47,130
Country right here in
Fredericksburg. FEMA Region

3351
03:18:47,130 --> 03:18:49,410
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,

3352
03:18:49,740 --> 03:18:52,290
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we've

3353
03:18:52,290 --> 03:18:55,380
already forgotten about the
debate. I'm John C.

3354
03:18:55,380 --> 03:18:58,200
Adam Curry: Dvorak. Thank God
for that. Alright, everybody,

3355
03:18:58,200 --> 03:19:00,960
we'll be back on Thursday. Who
knows what will happen by then

3356
03:19:00,960 --> 03:19:03,330
I'm looking forward to it. I'm
looking forward to seeing you

3357
03:19:03,330 --> 03:19:08,070
remember us. born July 4. That's
right, no agenda donations.com.

3358
03:19:08,070 --> 03:19:12,450
Until then Adios, mofos Hui Hui,
and child care,

3359
03:19:12,600 --> 03:19:15,900
Unknown: elder care, making sure
that we continue to strengthen

3360
03:19:15,900 --> 03:19:18,480
our healthcare system, making
sure that we're able to make

3361
03:19:18,510 --> 03:19:27,150
every single solitary person
with COVID is gonna be with

3362
03:19:29,460 --> 03:19:30,690
everything we have to do with

3363
03:19:34,440 --> 03:19:42,570
if we finally beat Medicare
every single day, every single

3364
03:19:42,570 --> 03:19:48,150
day. That is simply not true.
The White House is calling for

3365
03:19:48,150 --> 03:19:49,860
cheap face, which

3366
03:19:55,200 --> 03:20:01,680
was when I was vice president.
Oh six Pass, by the way, I

3367
03:20:01,680 --> 03:20:03,240
taught me to kick off

3368
03:20:05,910 --> 03:20:09,210
the idea. The idea. I'm

3369
03:20:09,210 --> 03:20:11,820
Adam Curry: all in on the master
masters in real and they work

3370
03:20:11,820 --> 03:20:14,730
and they're very committed. And
they're undetectable. I know

3371
03:20:14,730 --> 03:20:16,860
from my own family's experience.

3372
03:20:17,070 --> 03:20:18,120
Unknown: Truth is it is

3373
03:20:18,120 --> 03:20:19,800
absolutely killing us. No

3374
03:20:19,800 --> 03:20:21,840
one wants to screw around with
us. Nobody

3375
03:20:21,840 --> 03:20:25,140
wants that to happen Democrat or
Republican. Nobody wants it to

3376
03:20:25,140 --> 03:20:26,190
happen. He's this

3377
03:20:26,190 --> 03:20:30,360
guy told Ukraine told Trump do
whatever you want to do or do

3378
03:20:30,360 --> 03:20:33,420
whatever you want. And that's
exactly what Trump did. He

3379
03:20:33,420 --> 03:20:34,950
didn't fight did you fire
anybody?

3380
03:20:35,130 --> 03:20:38,550
Did you fire anybody that's on
the border. Truth is this man is

3381
03:20:38,550 --> 03:20:40,560
a criminal. This man you're
lucky

3382
03:20:40,590 --> 03:20:45,360
more fentanyl machines, or more
be able to detect drugs, or more

3383
03:20:45,360 --> 03:20:46,290
of a numbers of every

3384
03:20:46,290 --> 03:20:49,800
time that Solinsky comes to this
country. He walks away with $60

3385
03:20:49,800 --> 03:20:52,980
billion. He's the greatest
salesman ever. Truth is a lot of

3386
03:20:52,980 --> 03:20:54,780
people are dead right now. He

3387
03:20:54,780 --> 03:21:00,270
went to the funeral idea that
she was murdered by a by an

3388
03:21:00,270 --> 03:21:00,690
immigrant we

3389
03:21:00,690 --> 03:21:02,910
mentioned the laptop we've
mentioned Russia, Russia,

3390
03:21:02,910 --> 03:21:05,640
Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine,
Ukraine, every single thing he

3391
03:21:05,640 --> 03:21:08,820
said is a lie. Everything he
does is a lie. Truth is you

3392
03:21:08,820 --> 03:21:11,520
could feel it, you could feel it
too. And you could feel it. My

3393
03:21:11,520 --> 03:21:11,910
son

3394
03:21:11,910 --> 03:21:14,430
was not a loser was not a
sucker. You're the sucker.

3395
03:21:14,490 --> 03:21:15,570
You're the loser. You have

3396
03:21:15,570 --> 03:21:17,880
to be ashamed of yourself, what
you have done, how you've

3397
03:21:17,880 --> 03:21:20,580
destroyed the lives of so many
people finds

3398
03:21:20,670 --> 03:21:25,500
tremendous amount feeds into the
way the pandemic caused

3399
03:21:25,500 --> 03:21:28,410
the inflation and it's killing
black families and Hispanic

3400
03:21:28,410 --> 03:21:31,680
families and just about
everybody. Truth is we're like a

3401
03:21:31,680 --> 03:21:33,090
bunch of stupid people. The

3402
03:21:33,090 --> 03:21:35,850
only person on the stage is a
convicted felon. This man I'm

3403
03:21:35,850 --> 03:21:37,230
looking at right now he did

3404
03:21:37,230 --> 03:21:40,920
the mandate, which is a disaster
mandating it. The vaccine went

3405
03:21:40,920 --> 03:21:43,500
out he did a mandate or the
vaccine, which is the thing that

3406
03:21:43,530 --> 03:21:46,860
people most objected to the

3407
03:21:47,850 --> 03:21:52,500
COVID Excuse me with dealing
with everything we have to do.

3408
03:21:53,220 --> 03:21:55,680
I really don't know what he said
at the end of this sentence. I

3409
03:21:55,680 --> 03:21:58,260
don't think he knows what he
said he The truth is you have to

3410
03:21:58,260 --> 03:21:59,190
get elected also,

3411
03:21:59,220 --> 03:22:05,100
all of the formatting tweets
that CNN made, actually told

3412
03:22:05,130 --> 03:22:07,950
Trump tremendously. I am.

3413
03:22:10,260 --> 03:22:13,230
are so many young women,
including the young woman who

3414
03:22:13,710 --> 03:22:20,010
was murdered, went to the
funeral. She was murdered by a

3415
03:22:20,880 --> 03:22:24,840
by an American to talk about
that. But here's the deal.

3416
03:22:25,170 --> 03:22:28,890
There's a lot of women to be
raised by their mother in law's

3417
03:22:28,890 --> 03:22:35,730
by their, by their spouses, or
sisters by SSS ridiculous, and

3418
03:22:35,730 --> 03:22:38,640
they can do nothing about it.
And they try to rest across the

3419
03:22:38,640 --> 03:22:39,000
line.

3420
03:22:40,950 --> 03:22:44,640
Your actions and put the lives
of our partners, our allies and

3421
03:22:44,640 --> 03:22:47,310
our diplomats at risk,
especially those who work in

3422
03:22:47,520 --> 03:22:49,980
Afghanistan and Iraq. Nailed it.
Yeah, exact

3423
03:22:49,980 --> 03:22:54,120
nails that for a person with
advanced dementia deserves the

3424
03:22:54,120 --> 03:22:57,120
gold battle, interfering in the
US presidential elections.

3425
03:22:57,180 --> 03:23:02,400
Whenever he was losing focus, he
didn't have any reference. Ally,

3426
03:23:02,400 --> 03:23:03,330
am I right?

3427
03:23:04,590 --> 03:23:07,950
Not having an audience made
Biden even more lost and look

3428
03:23:07,950 --> 03:23:10,800
even more isolated and more in
outer space.

3429
03:23:10,890 --> 03:23:16,770
Did you ever discover anyone who
was injured or killed? Yeah, the

3430
03:23:16,770 --> 03:23:19,080
simplest way would just be to
remove the immunity. A

3431
03:23:19,080 --> 03:23:20,400
lot of people with his

3432
03:23:20,460 --> 03:23:26,820
advanced level of dementia would
have done way worse. Why am I

3433
03:23:26,820 --> 03:23:31,200
right? Over 36,000 seriously
injured Americans from COVID-19

3434
03:23:31,200 --> 03:23:31,740
vaccine?

3435
03:23:35,820 --> 03:23:37,110
Are you recording me right now?

3436
03:23:38,010 --> 03:23:40,530
Everybody here is saying they're
safe. Okay, so

3437
03:23:40,530 --> 03:23:43,440
you have to stop recording and
stop recording my place.

3438
03:23:45,420 --> 03:23:50,310
Thank you President. Turning off
the opponent's mic and making

3439
03:23:50,340 --> 03:23:54,450
each of these candidates go at
90 seconds at a time there's no

3440
03:23:54,450 --> 03:23:55,050
interruption.

3441
03:23:55,380 --> 03:23:57,720
My husband is an attorney. So
you're not going to put this

3442
03:23:57,720 --> 03:23:59,850
video anywhere. So I'm not sure
what you're doing with your

3443
03:23:59,850 --> 03:24:00,960
phone up

3444
03:24:00,960 --> 03:24:02,010
and down the chain.

3445
03:24:02,130 --> 03:24:05,490
Dr. Fauci claims at the NIH have
never funded

3446
03:24:06,750 --> 03:24:09,990
I am i right you do not know
what you are talking

3447
03:24:09,990 --> 03:24:13,080
about. Okay, so you have to stop
recording me and stop recording

3448
03:24:13,080 --> 03:24:14,220
my plates up

3449
03:24:14,220 --> 03:24:16,920
and down the chain. Nailed it.
Yeah, exact

3450
03:24:16,920 --> 03:24:19,200
nails it deserves the gold medal

3451
03:24:28,230 --> 03:24:32,430
Mofo for.org/in A.

3452
03:24:33,510 --> 03:24:35,220
Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god.

