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John C Dvorak: Let's have a
meeting. Adam curry Jhansi

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Devorah to 23rd 2020

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Adam Curry: for this award
winning combination media

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assassination episode 1671

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Unknown: This is no agenda

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Adam Curry: and broadcasting
live from the heart of the Texas

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hill country here in the Marines
and number six in the morning

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everybody I'm Adam curry is from

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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where everybody knows

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that tea is good for you. I'm
John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. No, it's
not. Me It's not a tea is good

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for you. This this is not a
fact. It is

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John C Dvorak: asking a Chinese
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Adam Curry: Okay. You got a lot
of them around there. Yeah, you

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got. Have you heard about your
Chinese person in Oakland?

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John C Dvorak: She's among.

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Adam Curry: She's Ma, she's not
Chinese. She's manga. She's

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John C Dvorak: Hmong which is
the Cambodian ethnic group.

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Adam Curry: Okay, I thought it
was pretty I thought the whole I

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thought the whole story where
you want to hear this story? I

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actually I

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John C Dvorak: clipped it for
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I don't think anybody knows it.

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Adam Curry: No, this is a part
of the season of reveal. As sees

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John C Dvorak: more like the
season to corruption, but go

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ahead.

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Unknown: It's been 48 hours
since the FBI raided the home of

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Oakland Mayor Shang Tao along
with at least two other

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locations, and the mayor is
nowhere to be seen. We

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still don't know exactly what
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Yesterday, we heard the mayor
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did hire an attorney, former
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suggested that there is no
evidence that tau is the target

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investigation, and that she had
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was my assumption that she would
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or documents or devices if they
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have refused that if they got a
search warrant. So I'm quite

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surprised that the search
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heard of this investigation. The
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that she is going to cooperate
with the investigation that she

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would have done that in the
first place. Bras also

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said Mayor Tao is working from a
remote location because of the

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media circus around the raids
and that she will release a

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statement sometime next week. So

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Adam Curry: what's great about
this story is so she is among

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would you say Mung Tao Chuck Tao
Rishi, mung Mung what is

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John C Dvorak: the difference? m
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Adam Curry: is the difference
between Chinese and manga?

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John C Dvorak: Well, the Hmong
are Cambodian, which is anything

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but Chinese. No, it's the south
southeast Asian, all that whole,

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that whole area that he's not
Chinese,

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Adam Curry: do they eat sushi?

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John C Dvorak: No, I don't think
so. All right, but whatever

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that's beside the point. The
mine were kind of escaped from

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Cambodia during the period of
Pol Pot in other situations, and

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they there's lots of Hmong and
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in fact, if you go to a farmers
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stalls are Hmong and they,
they're great if you check with

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their people, the Hmong are
great people. This has got to be

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a huge humiliation. Well, the
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Francisco Bay area because this
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Adam Curry: wait, but wait, But
wait, there's more. It's not

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her. Yeah, this is this is the
follow up story. It's not her.

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It's the boyfriend. Yeah, you
didn't know that. Did you?

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John C Dvorak: Well, I didn't I
actually I didn't hear this part

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of it. But I can say this is
that they've been trying to

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recall her long before this
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she's got some screw Enos about
her. Yeah, including the net,

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you know, having some hard on
regarding the ex chief of police

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and some other issues with the
police department. And there's

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been a recall going on for at
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there's, yeah, maybe the
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with it, but she's suspicious.
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Adam Curry: we have a we have a
former chief of staff who is

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blowing the whistle. And they've
got great video of her, I guess

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during her her election, or I
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elected as mayor, and he's
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whispering in her ear like,
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Now, it helps that he's black.
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fabulous.

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Unknown: When Nia Webb worked
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shame town that few people have
for a year and four months. Webb

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served this town's right hand
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when Tao was the district for
council member websites she

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volunteered and spent countless
hours on tells me your old

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campaign in 2022. She says she
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after Tao won the election. A
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of what's coming out now is the
reason I resigned shortly

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thereafter, winning Bella
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was more sad than surprised
about FBI agents rating towels

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home on Thursday.

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I wasn't surprised. I was like
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coming out

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where the truth was Taos
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the mastermind and running pay
to play schemes during Taos

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campaign for mayor. And after
she wants.

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I had found out that Andre her
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jobs in our administration,
promising people appointments on

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different commissions and boards
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that told me they were promised
positions. They were promised

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board positions and at the mouth
of what they would always

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entree. Yeah, that was who they
say Andre promised me this

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web claims Jones was controlling
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town went along with him. It
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he's making her do things
pushing her to do things that I

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don't believe she would do
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Adam Curry: Blame it on the
boyfriend. Blame it on the man

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John C Dvorak: blame it on the
black guy. Yeah, exactly. Oh,

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brother.

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Adam Curry: He looks pretty
shady. I gotta tell you that

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they got good video of him like
whispered in your ear. Yeah, now

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blame it on the boyfriend. It's
great. It's fantastic.

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John C Dvorak: We all it'll
shake out eventually they

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they've raided a number of
places. I think his house may

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have been one of them. But yeah,
this has been going on for about

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a week or two. So she's not to
be found. Now. She's no, no.

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Adam Curry: remote location is
in Cambodia? Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: she's in
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Adam Curry: So we're kind of in
the summer doldrums. Although,

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you know, right now, the it's
the big teams, most of the New

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York elite, certainly the news
elite, they're all off to the

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Hamptons. You know, we've got
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only going to really focus on
one thing, which is all the

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debate. So all the news is that
debate, the debate, oh Trump in

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the debate. And so instead of
doing what we used to do during

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the summer months, I remember
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I think you remember this as
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will be hot. And we'd show you
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beach. Kids at the swimming
pool. You got some poor fire

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hydrant or kids in the fire
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be like wow, it's hot. And maybe
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Who was it that said sons of
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summer when it was it was that
Reagan was that one of the

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Presidents called someone on an
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you know the weather guys are
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John C Dvorak: Anyway, remember
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that. I've looked that one up.
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Adam Curry: instead they're so
lazy now we got cop 29 coming up

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in November in Baku. So instead
of just showing the fun little,

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you know, swimming pool the
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good time. It's hard. It's
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an egg on the pavement in New
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we used to do in the summer. No.
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today's commute during the
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been restored along the rest of
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yesterday's power failure was
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down their trains concern the
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rails and no relief today, ties
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Northeast, and we're expecting
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the Midwest, parts of the Upper
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flooding, including Minnesota,
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today. We'll check your forecast
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Adam Curry: all extreme. It's so
hot, even though it's three

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weeks later than normally these
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still make it sound like there's
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Unknown: And you start this off
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the air quality alerts in parts
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morning. Hey,

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good morning here in New York
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90 of the season. And while that
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behind average look at this shot
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we've broken the Seal of 90
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helicopter there. It's hazy, hot
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90 throughout the weekend, which
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Adam Curry: I mean, it's it's
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a heatwave. It's our first 90
We've unsealed it. Oh, no.

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John C Dvorak: But you know,
callate we've topped all this in

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California. Oh, you have? Yeah,
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cold out of course. You know,
that's typical. But no, do we

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Adam Curry: You got a law? What
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John C Dvorak: played the clip
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Adam Curry: law.

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Unknown: And a new rule is in
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people who work indoors from
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more than a million people in
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that expose them to the kind of
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worst places we've seen, you
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workplaces, they're kind of
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when it's above 82 degrees past
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John C Dvorak: They have to do
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which is like the perfect
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want to just enjoy your life.
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disaster. Yeah. And then if it's
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Unknown: employers will now have
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or air conditioning or just work
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Adam Curry: Once you say it then
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John C Dvorak: or air
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John C Dvorak: requirement now
there was slow down it's like a

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union Slow down, slow down.

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Adam Curry: Gotta boots on the
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producers. He says, you know, as
Josh, I was listening to 1670 in

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the New York heat wave as
someone who's worked outside for

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14 years in southern Arizona, I
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John C Dvorak: Arizona and
that's fine. There we go.

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Adam Curry: When this heat dome
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Sure, but local news and radio
blasted out excessive heat

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warnings and dangerous heat
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Tucson on those days? 102. I've
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ridden motorcycles year round.
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everybody's noticing this. But
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John C Dvorak: scam. This is
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Adam Curry: to keep our eye on
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they're gonna. They're gonna get
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laughing at it but we can't just
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Unknown: Parts of the US and
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arid climate already means hot
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Adam Curry: No, not even illegal
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migrants. It's killing the
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there of heat exhaustion. And at
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survey which shows something
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Unknown: recent heat waves we've
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off the highway to climates.
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Maine and New Brunswick, Canada,
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countries 80% or four out of
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either daily or weekly, and two
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decisions around their, their
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do they take into account the
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the weather. Oh, look at this
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would be perfect for the climate
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John C Dvorak: the other thing
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Adam Curry: highs. I went all
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John C Dvorak: There's always it
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Adam Curry: What do you what are
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John C Dvorak: You're not from
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Indonesia. You know, the big
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Indonesia. And there's other
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lot of Muslims, they go to the
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tickets like 1130 and four. And
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Adam Curry: They had a lot of a
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was still over there. I'm back
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as she she she dies on the
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who weren't officially
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to the Hajj. As like some people
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giving them water and shelter.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
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Adam Curry: So I just want to
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here. Joy re read had an
interesting twist on the on the

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money scamming being done off of
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Unknown: that will begin tonight
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Climate collapse and the greed
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Adam Curry: So instead of people
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nonsense, she's just twisted it
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Unknown: Today. Millions of
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suffering through heat warnings
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Adam Curry: stop. She's correct.
We're only suffering through the

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warnings, not the actual heat.
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John C Dvorak: what I noticed.
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Adam Curry: and advisories. I am
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Unknown: Yes. Today. Millions of
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suffering through heat warnings,
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across half of the country like
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apple, Indianapolis, Detroit,
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Adam Curry: This, this feels
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Adam Curry: feels like and it's
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difference between 92 and 100? A
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is that because of the wet bulb
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John C Dvorak: that's what I'm
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Unknown: temperatures exceeding
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feels closer to 100. Many of
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heat indexes hitting 105
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Adam Curry: HEAT indexes, mind
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temperature. It's the heat
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article incidents. They are they
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Adam Curry: Oops, you flubbed
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coincidence. They aren't. They
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climate crisis. And they're not
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also killing us at higher rates,
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southern tip of the state with a
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storms that have left whole
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sparked across the state since
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John C Dvorak: But we have 300
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Adam Curry: but you know, hey,
it could have been you and

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listen to the fires

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across the state since Saturday,
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economic stories because people
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ignore them. Ah

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John C Dvorak: money for
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Adam Curry: Well thinks she's
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podcasters good money,

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John C Dvorak: but we're not
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good money. The least. No

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Adam Curry: kidding. Well,
there's part two to this

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Unknown: not only a big donors
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politicians, they got some
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that cares more about rich
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than they do about your health
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Court is the most pro oligarch
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Adam Curry: oligarch of all. So
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script writing. I mean, she's
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index and the fields like and
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guess he's talking about the
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interesting twist, although she
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Unknown: The six Leonard Leo,
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Gorsuch, Alito, Roberts, and
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the most pro big business voting
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court.

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Adam Curry: Is that true? Can we
verify that you can verify that

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the most pro business will
oligarch this is again,

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John C Dvorak: this is all about
the Chevron deference? Right.

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Adam Curry: Listen, listen.

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Unknown: They've ruled that
corporations are people that the

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Environmental Protection Agency
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pollution, and they're ready to
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John C Dvorak: it. At least
three of those justices weren't

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involved in the corporations are
people decision. Yeah, they were

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on their own three dates. It
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good Kashmir, it predates the
other way. Leader, good catch,

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so she's a liar. No. Stop
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Unknown: Our mental protection
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pollution. And they're ready to
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regulatory power of all federal
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Adam Curry: stifling the power,
I can't wait for Chevron

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deference to come up. That's
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John C Dvorak: cool to freak out
though is it's weird. Why? Why

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is she or anybody else defending
the bureaucratic state? Is

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Adam Curry: it because possibly,
that really is the deep state

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and this is where they get
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they've got their buddies on the

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inside. I mean, it's all
whenever Veritas now what is the

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name? O'Keefe? Whenever O'Keefe
gets someone, which is usually

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some poor gay guy, it's always
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that that's probably where the
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and that CIA is also an agency
FBI is an agency, all these

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agencies are? Well, I'm not so
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Security, these are all these
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John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, this
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be. They're not doing policy, so
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Adam Curry: Round shirt stuff.

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John C Dvorak: But it's like
this freak out still. And I will

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repeat this complaint of mine,
which is that we never had this

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Chevron deference before 1984.
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agencies. I was one of more in
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along just fine. Famously, they
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help now was and then they got
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ironic because it was when the
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rains where they were pulled in
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do less regulating. That's when
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ironic. And then they realized

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that they could make hay with
this and so once the Democrats

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gotten in power then they went
the other direction nobody could

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do anything about it. But before
1984 there was not an issue why

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Adam Curry: Well, NPR is on the
is starting to wise up to a

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couple of things mainly the scam
that is the carbon offsets,

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which I mean, you can buy this
on your plane trip ticket when

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you rent cars. There's all kinds
of different places well once

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you add a 2% or 5% and save the
earth if you've ever wondered if

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that's a scam, people who get
whooped you ever wonder if

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that's a scam? listen to NPR
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I spoke to Danny Colin ward at
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offset is basically a promise.

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somewhere else that resulted in
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would have been cut down, or a
promise that someone made a wind

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farm and switch from fossil
fuels. The key promise being

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your money is actually reducing
or removing a planet heating

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pollution, like that carbon
dioxide pollution from your

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flight or your car rental. But
Barbara hya at UC Berkeley says

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there's a problem.

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Most offsets don't represent
what they claim. There are

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two big ways many offsets can be
false promises. First, many

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offset projects over estimate
their impact. For example, many

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offset projects that claim
they're saving forests from

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deforestation, research finds
many are getting money for

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forests that don't actually need
protection. So then

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is there any actual
accountability? If a carbon

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offset company makes a climate
claim? That's false? Is there a

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way for consumers to take
action? Or is there enforcement

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here? In

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California, there is a bill in
the state assembly right now.

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All those promises of climate
benefits that carbon offset

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companies make this bill would
make those claims legally

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enforceable.

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Adam Curry: So there's still
time to get in. I think we

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didn't Isn't this where the
whole net for humanity came

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from? This is not where the
whole idea came?

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John C Dvorak: Yes. I think
there was one. That was like, I

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think we did that a little over
a decade ago. Let me check on

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mine. If you remember, there was
a vending machines at airports,

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they all disappeared, that we're
selling carbon offsets. So when

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you took your flight, how many
miles you're going and you get a

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little coupon that said, you you
you thank you, you save the

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Earth

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Adam Curry: 2017 I think is when
we first got that jingling. So

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we were probably talking about
it in 2016. And the whole idea

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was you could have no agenda
producers take a nap because

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it'd be less carbon dioxide
exuded. And, and that will be

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carbon offset. And so it seems
like there's no regulation it's

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it's a bonanza, it's a free for
all. Let's listen to some more

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from NPR.

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Unknown: That feels like a big
problem if your money isn't

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actually reducing as much
climate pollution as the offset

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claims. What's the other issue?

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Something called permanent
offsets are supposed to reduce

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or remove carbon dioxide
pollution, right? The carbon

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dioxide, some carbon dioxide
stays in the atmosphere hundreds

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of years, some co2 sticks around
even longer.

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Adam Curry: Wait, some co2
sticks around for 1000s of

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years? What is this magical
dust? By the way, I think the

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troll room was right. It must
have been much earlier than

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2017.

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John C Dvorak: It must it must
have been I think it was over 10

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years. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: Oh, no, I think
you're right. Let's go back to

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this this carbon dioxide that
hangs around for 1000 years.

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Unknown: Some co2 sticks around
even longer 1000s of years

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1000s.

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Adam Curry: How do they know it?
Is there still Jesus carbon

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dioxide hanging around?

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Unknown: Here's the thing. The
vast majority of carbon offsets

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only promised to remove or store
co2 emissions for 40 years or

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less. Colin Ward says a 40 year
promise of reducing emissions

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does not compare to a 300 year
or several 1000 year impact of

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carbon dioxide.

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So if a lot of these are false
promises, is the government

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doing anything to address these
issues with offsets consumers?

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And

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Adam Curry: I just love I just I
just love the breathiness or the

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two. John is there. Is there
really anything that we can do

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about these offsets? I don't
know.

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Unknown: If a lot of these are
false promises is the government

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doing anything to address these
issues with offsets consumers

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and companies are buying.

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Late last month the Treasury
Secretary Janet Yellen announced

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new principles for high quality
Janet

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Adam Curry: Yellen. Janet Yellen
announced something

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John C Dvorak: she's a
climatologist you didn't know

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that consumers and

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Unknown: companies are buying.

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Late last month the Treasury
Secretary Janet Yellen announced

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new principles for high quality
carbon offsets.

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Adam Curry: Ah, there we go.

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John C Dvorak: The low quality
carbon offsets now we're gonna

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have the high quality carbon
we're

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Adam Curry: number one foam
finger number one for

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Unknown: our offsets high
quality that is offsets that

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actually reduce or remove
climate pollution, that climate

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pollution even these new
principles have gaps. For

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example, the principles do not
identify how long offsets have

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to keep carbon dioxide out of
the atmosphere no number. Also,

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these are just principles,
researchers worry without

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enforcement, these voluntary
principles might or might not be

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followed. A Treasury
spokesperson said though the

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principles released last month
are voluntary. We believe they

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can help guide efforts to
address the challenges Okay.

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Okay,

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Adam Curry: I finally figured it
out. It's the exit strategy to

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end all exit strategies ready?
Okay,

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John C Dvorak: I'm all ears. How
much

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Adam Curry: carbon because we
can't say carbon dioxide. How

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much carbon do you think is
caused by every episode of the

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no agenda show taking into
account? The work that you and I

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do the seven 800,000 people who
listen, the computers, the

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phones they're using? This has
got to be quite a lot of carbon,

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don't you think?

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John C Dvorak: I have no idea.
Let's put a number on it.

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Theoretically, yes, I've had to
have a clip coming up, right.

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But let's just stick with what
makes it even worse, whatever it

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is, whatever the number is. So
whatever

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Adam Curry: it is, I think we
should sell carbon offsets to

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stop us from podcasting. So,
think about it. We

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John C Dvorak: have a
counterintuitive,

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Adam Curry: no, it's fantastic.
It's a we need to sell the

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carbon offsets so that we don't
waste all of this energy and

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carbon this beings being just
sloshed into the air. And the

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carbon that we are exhaling
right now, will be around for

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1000s of years. It's high
quality carbon that we are

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getting rid of me.

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John C Dvorak: Okay. All right.
What's your clip? Once you go?

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Well, these clips are about AI
and how it's affecting the

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climate and ruining the day
ruined everything. The

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Unknown: rise of artificial
intelligence is requiring faster

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and bigger computations for even
simple tasks. Then for say, a

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Google search. It's adding to
the demand for more internet

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data centers, the places that
house all those servers that

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keep the internet running. But
as Ali Rogen reports, there's a

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price to pay for that

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demand for data centers is
growing rapidly. But these

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facilities come at a big
environmental cost, especially

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for the communities that host
them. Northern Virginia is the

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largest data center hub in the
world. The area is responsible

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for processing nearly 70% of
global digital traffic. It's a

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rate that local officials say is
unsustainable. Saatchi Kitajima

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Mulkey is a science journalist
and writer for the climate focus

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news outlet gris Saatchi, thank
you so much for joining us.

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First of all, tell us a little
bit more about what a data

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center is. And why don't we?

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Adam Curry: Why do we need so
many data centers never

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Unknown: we use the internet,
upload photos to the cloud, send

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emails, watch a video, all of
that data and digital

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information needs a home and it
lives in these huge facilities

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called data centers, which hold
10s of 1000s of servers each and

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they process all that digital
information for us. Something

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like 70% of the world's digital
information is processed by a

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cluster of data centers in
Virginia alone. And there are

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over 5000 facilities in the US.

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Well, what are the environmental
impacts of having some of these

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data centers in your backyard?

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So to process all that
information, they need two

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things. The first is
electricity, of course to

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physically crunch and process
all that gigabyte going on.

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Adam Curry: Oh, all that
gigabyte going on?

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is our
this is our super This is the

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science and technology writer.
We just need to talk like that

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from now on. Hey, man, they're
getting they're processing all

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that gigabytes.

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Adam Curry: I got a lot of
gigabyte going on. How about

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you, John?

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John C Dvorak: I got gigabyte
going on. To be honest about it.

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I have terabyte going on?

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Adam Curry: Oh, it's remember,
it's not the size. He's got

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terabyte All right. All right.
This

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John C Dvorak: is good. So we
already know that we have

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they're talking to an idiot. So
we're gonna get good material

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out of this person. I'm loving
it already information,

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Unknown: they need two things.
The first is electricity, of

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course to physically crunch and
process all that gigabyte, go

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Adam Curry: physically crunch,
John is physically crunch.

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There's actually

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John C Dvorak: a crunch. You
actually missed that until now.

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Yeah. Physically physically
crunching, grinders at these

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data centers, big giant rocks
that roll around pulled by oxen,

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just

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Adam Curry: to remind everybody

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Unknown: elitist voices of
America. This is NPR or PBS

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information,

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they need two things. The first
is electricity, of course, to

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physically crunch and process
all that gigabyte going on. The

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other is water, which are used
in cooling systems to protect

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these servers from physically
overheating. And researchers

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think they're in the top 10
Water consuming industries in

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the US they use 2% of the
electricity in the US, which is

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a lot. And A source told me that
data center campuses can use the

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resources equivalent to a small
city and as AI booms, they'll

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use even more the average AI
application uses six times the

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amount of electricity so they
run a lot hotter. And that

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scales exponentially. They just
need more water to cool down.

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Whoa, whoa.

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Adam Curry: Whoa, she said that
scales exponentially. That's

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kind of a contradiction that
she's saying there. So it gets

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really hot need a lot of water
that scales exponentially.

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John C Dvorak: I think she Just
using words, is

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Unknown: even more, the average
AI application uses six times

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the amount of electricity. So
they run a lot hotter. And that

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scales exponentially. They just
need more water to cool down.

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And how do these data centers in
the United States and the world

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of water

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John C Dvorak: do pull down to
cool down to cool down or to

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cool down? Okay.

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Adam Curry: But but you know,

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John C Dvorak: I find it by the
way, the one overlooked fat

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facet to this, as I find
interesting is that 70% Of all

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the data centers are in, in and
around randomly. Yeah,

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Unknown: hmm. So you run a lot
hotter, and that scales

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exponentially. They just need
more water to cool down.

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And how do these data centers in
the United States and around the

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world affect global efforts to
decarbonize?

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It's tricky, because right now,
we are building out green energy

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solutions at a great scale. It's
happening really fast, but it

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might not be happening fast
enough. Currently, a lot of the

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grid is still running on fossil
fuels, and even plans in

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Virginia to shut down you know,
coal firing plants may not go

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through because these data
centers need so much energy that

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grid operators need to fire
those coal plants backup or just

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keep them running in order to
meet all that demand. So and one

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of the talking points of these
data center reform coalition's

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I've spoken to is that that's a
step backwards from clean energy

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goals and kind of almost a
betrayal of some of the promises

666
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certain states have made to you
know, get off of carbon.

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Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Get off a
carbon. Yes, she

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John C Dvorak: says cold coal
firing, Isn't it cold coal him

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sorry, coal coal fired, coal
fired.

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Adam Curry: She's obviously a
nincompoop. Well, she's on her

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way. Wow. Exit Strategy become
tech journalists at PBS. Madam

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is John we're crunching the
gigabytes for you right here on

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PBS.

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John C Dvorak: Okay, with
clipper we

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Adam Curry: are number three.
This is shorty need to set it up

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this shorty? Yes, no, this

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John C Dvorak: is shorty for a
reason you'll hear it when you

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when you hear it.

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Unknown: And many of these data
centers are located in densely

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populated residential areas.
What's it like to live near one?

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Yeah, you

682
00:37:09,870 --> 00:37:12,570
know they're built near schools
and neighborhoods protected

683
00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:16,170
nature parks in Virginia in
particular. And one big impact

684
00:37:16,170 --> 00:37:19,170
is that they're really loud they
hum and they bring all this

685
00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:20,490
noise pollution to the area.

686
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,150
Adam Curry: That's bull crap
She's confusing it with with the

687
00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:28,020
Bitcoin miners I don't know what
she's talking about. Data

688
00:37:28,020 --> 00:37:31,650
centers are completely quiet
than ones that these goals no

689
00:37:31,650 --> 00:37:34,410
John C Dvorak: noise pollution,
Atom noise pollution from the

690
00:37:34,410 --> 00:37:37,530
giant data centers because it's
buzzing. That's

691
00:37:37,530 --> 00:37:40,650
Adam Curry: total horse crap.
That's total it's the crypto

692
00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:45,420
mining guys who have no cooling
they just have an open roof and

693
00:37:45,420 --> 00:37:49,920
they point all fans up toward
the roof yet those are noisy but

694
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,780
not this stuff. Bynum believe it
wow okay, no,

695
00:37:54,930 --> 00:37:57,840
John C Dvorak: they're not noise
I've been I actually visited may

696
00:37:57,870 --> 00:38:00,990
East ones which is one of the I
built I built

697
00:38:00,990 --> 00:38:02,250
Adam Curry: an exchange in
Amsterdam

698
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,020
John C Dvorak: Don't make noise
it all

699
00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:07,410
Adam Curry: on the outside they
don't know. They can get noisy

700
00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:08,070
inside.

701
00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:10,920
John C Dvorak: Yeah, because of
all the fans but yeah, all the

702
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,730
internal fans are just blowing
on the CPUs yeah sure. I have a

703
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,760
couple of computers that make a
lot of racket I went to didn't

704
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,250
add noise pollution outside I
was

705
00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:22,770
Adam Curry: at Mae Mae East when
they had that flooding Do you

706
00:38:22,770 --> 00:38:27,120
remember that? I do remember
that that was 90 That must have

707
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,270
been 95 or 96 It was always

708
00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:35,370
John C Dvorak: take me east by
some very cynical guy. He showed

709
00:38:35,370 --> 00:38:38,940
me around and he says and then
we as we leave this like the

710
00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:42,510
exit from there as you drive out
through this like a parking lot

711
00:38:43,230 --> 00:38:46,710
underground parking lot
basically. So you drive he says

712
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:49,500
look at see we'd look above us
as we're driving I see those

713
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:52,650
things those are the main cables
if you had a truck that's too

714
00:38:52,650 --> 00:38:55,830
big to tear him apart and bring
down the whole internet and

715
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,360
everything that was pointed out
what a what a flaky operation it

716
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,410
was what

717
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,180
Adam Curry: so we should
probably explain the the May is

718
00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:11,730
m au A stands for metropolitan
area exchange and we had that

719
00:39:11,730 --> 00:39:14,460
was the big one on the east
coast we had the Mae West of

720
00:39:14,460 --> 00:39:18,180
course on the west coast we had
the am six the Amsterdam we

721
00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:19,080
still have these

722
00:39:20,010 --> 00:39:21,810
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
done they're not as important as

723
00:39:21,810 --> 00:39:25,830
they once were. No, no, but no,
they're not all the traffic all

724
00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:28,680
the internet traffic used to go
through all these things because

725
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:33,210
you had to pay carriage to to
get a good one. No, we had no in

726
00:39:33,210 --> 00:39:36,540
peering feeds. We had period
period period hammies was

727
00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:39,330
peering happened, that was the
end of it. Well, peering was

728
00:39:39,330 --> 00:39:41,640
Adam Curry: great for a while,
but then, you know, then they

729
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,960
all got to consolidate and all
became like, what do we have now

730
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:51,120
AT and T and Comcast Comcast?
Yeah. And there's maybe one of

731
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,900
the Oh, how about MCI? Those
guys still around?

732
00:39:55,140 --> 00:39:58,110
John C Dvorak: I don't think so.
All right, onward. All

733
00:39:58,110 --> 00:40:00,150
Unknown: that concrete also
means a huge increase. Some

734
00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:02,820
stormwater runoff, because that
rain can no longer soak into the

735
00:40:02,820 --> 00:40:05,460
ground. It all has to go
somewhere what?

736
00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:08,279
concrete.

737
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,190
And so the amount of electricity
also could be more than the grid

738
00:40:14,190 --> 00:40:16,740
may be able to handle. So when
there's an outage, there's kind

739
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:19,290
of a question of who gets the
power of residents or data

740
00:40:19,290 --> 00:40:19,800
centers.

741
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:22,950
Were talking to you now via
Skype. We're using a lot of data

742
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:24,240
to do it, though a

743
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:27,780
Adam Curry: lot of data on
Skype.

744
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:31,170
John C Dvorak: Talking to you
now on Skype, there's a lot of

745
00:40:31,170 --> 00:40:33,780
data involved. What are you
nuts? How

746
00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:36,840
Adam Curry: much gigabyte? Are
we crunching on Skype right now?

747
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,710
Okay, I hope there's a good
comeback in this final dough.

748
00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:44,010
John C Dvorak: This is
ridiculous. This entire report,

749
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,270
our classic PBS reporters,
they're clueless,

750
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:52,380
Unknown: as we increasingly rely
on this type of cloud computing,

751
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,700
to do so many things. We use
apps we use, we do virtual

752
00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:59,370
meetings, that kind of thing. Is
there any way that these data

753
00:40:59,370 --> 00:41:02,580
centers can continue to expand?
Can I just got to

754
00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:05,670
Adam Curry: hear that, again, we
use apps I just got I just have

755
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:10,620
to soak in the the nonsense. You
know, meanwhile, we have the

756
00:41:10,620 --> 00:41:13,260
twit network going out of
business. And this is what we're

757
00:41:13,260 --> 00:41:15,030
left with is sad.

758
00:41:15,450 --> 00:41:19,050
Unknown: As we increasingly rely
on this type of cloud computing,

759
00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:23,370
to do so many things. We use
apps we use, we do virtual

760
00:41:23,370 --> 00:41:26,040
meetings, that kind of thing. Is
there any way that these data

761
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,820
centers can continue to expand,
continue to grow and support all

762
00:41:29,820 --> 00:41:33,870
this usage? But do so in a more
environmentally friendly way?

763
00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:34,830
No, clear? No,

764
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:38,010
it is possible to build cooling
systems that use less water, but

765
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,790
we don't really see those built
out at scale yet. And you could

766
00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:44,190
power them with green energy.
But again, right now we have a

767
00:41:44,190 --> 00:41:47,040
grid that's kind of stuck on
fossil fuels, and we're slowly

768
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,530
making the transition to green
energy, but maybe not fast

769
00:41:49,530 --> 00:41:53,160
enough to meet all this demand.
First, before we can really know

770
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,650
what we need to do next, we just
need more transparency from the

771
00:41:55,650 --> 00:41:58,170
industry, which scientists and
activists both told me is pretty

772
00:41:58,170 --> 00:42:01,530
secretive. Google is saying it's
a leader in sustainable data

773
00:42:01,530 --> 00:42:05,340
centers. And they only began
releasing their water usage data

774
00:42:05,370 --> 00:42:07,740
a couple of years ago after a
lawsuit. And

775
00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:10,050
to that transparency point, I
want to play for you a soundbite

776
00:42:10,050 --> 00:42:13,590
from an environmental activist
in Northern Virginia, as we've

777
00:42:13,590 --> 00:42:16,350
said, where so many of these
data data centers are located.

778
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,070
One of the big things that
concerns me is that some of

779
00:42:20,070 --> 00:42:23,880
these data center companies are
claiming to be holding federal

780
00:42:24,090 --> 00:42:29,460
or Department of Defense
servers, and therefore their

781
00:42:29,460 --> 00:42:32,430
critical infrastructure and
cannot be allowed to go down.

782
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:35,550
And so there's this this
question of who gets the water

783
00:42:35,580 --> 00:42:39,840
in a drought situation? And are
they going to leverage that kind

784
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,950
of argument of national
security? to potentially say

785
00:42:43,950 --> 00:42:45,300
they get the water first?

786
00:42:45,570 --> 00:42:48,180
Are there any safeguards that
exist to make sure that these

787
00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:51,630
companies are being honest about
the types of companies that

788
00:42:51,630 --> 00:42:55,080
they're supporting with their
servers and and what the effect

789
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,250
on the environment is?

790
00:42:56,460 --> 00:42:59,040
We're kind of trusting companies
to be transparent and do the

791
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,070
right thing. There are a lot of
companies like to tell

792
00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:05,160
sustainability goals. But
truthfully, we're trying to get

793
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,200
laws through in Virginia right
now, a couple of bills were

794
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,230
introduced in Virginia and in
other states, but they're not

795
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:13,110
getting a lot of traction until
we have that research we need.

796
00:43:13,110 --> 00:43:16,350
And so right now, Virginia is
conducting a data center impact

797
00:43:16,350 --> 00:43:19,020
study. And the results of that
will come out later this year,

798
00:43:19,020 --> 00:43:21,630
hopefully, I mean, we're just
seeing a lot of action in

799
00:43:21,630 --> 00:43:23,100
Virginia in particular, yeah,

800
00:43:23,130 --> 00:43:24,780
Adam Curry: this there's
something going on with

801
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:27,450
Virginia. And that's what the
what the why they put these

802
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,650
idiots on this report, because
really, the data centers, Utah.

803
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:36,210
You know, there's some pretty
big ones in Texas. There's a lot

804
00:43:36,210 --> 00:43:39,030
being built here. I don't
understand this whole reports

805
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:42,030
focus on Virginia, there's
something else happening with

806
00:43:42,030 --> 00:43:43,590
data centers in Virginia.

807
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:48,090
John C Dvorak: I have to agree
because it's this vicious way

808
00:43:48,090 --> 00:43:49,380
that area in the reporting.

809
00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:51,960
Adam Curry: Now I just realized
I want to stay on this for a

810
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,970
moment because there

811
00:43:53,970 --> 00:43:55,530
John C Dvorak: will be end of
it. Yeah, that's that's your

812
00:43:55,530 --> 00:43:56,670
five. Okay.

813
00:43:57,390 --> 00:44:01,320
Adam Curry: There was an
interview with President Trump.

814
00:44:01,830 --> 00:44:04,770
And this was actually quite I
couldn't even watch the whole

815
00:44:04,770 --> 00:44:09,600
thing. It was the all in crew,
which is Dallas capitalist

816
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,920
John C Dvorak: JKL well,

817
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:16,620
Adam Curry: so J cow. put on a
suit and tie and like 1970s

818
00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:18,360
Buggles glasses.

819
00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:21,330
John C Dvorak: i By the way it
can I make one quick comment

820
00:44:21,330 --> 00:44:24,780
about that outfit? He was
wearing fleece? Because you know

821
00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:30,810
him I know we both know him run
into him. What? Yes, what a Joe

822
00:44:30,810 --> 00:44:34,920
he usually wears a turtleneck
but that but here he's wearing

823
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,220
and I was trying to figure out
why is he wearing this outfit?

824
00:44:38,580 --> 00:44:41,160
Because it doesn't look like
anything he's ever worn before

825
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,510
he showed up on the Jesse waters
show brought to promote the

826
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:49,650
interview. To promote the
interview and waters call them J

827
00:44:49,650 --> 00:44:53,580
cow and he comes up J kioku.
Kerrison stupid nicknames

828
00:44:53,580 --> 00:44:55,320
because he's like J Lo get it.

829
00:44:57,720 --> 00:44:59,700
Adam Curry: Makes it even
funnier cocktail. Yeah,

830
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:01,440
John C Dvorak: that's it.
Exactly why he's using this this

831
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,730
moniker. And so he's wearing
this suit and this pink tie and

832
00:45:05,730 --> 00:45:09,330
it's like, why is he wearing
this outfit? And I realized who

833
00:45:09,330 --> 00:45:13,890
it is it said, That guy that's
on Shark Tank. The Well Dressed

834
00:45:13,890 --> 00:45:18,720
guys shows up a lot on different
Fox shows. I can't remember his

835
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:24,150
name, Mr. Wonderful. That's the
guy who's Mr. Wonderful. He's

836
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:26,850
Adam Curry: the guy who's so
sharply dressed on there all

837
00:45:27,570 --> 00:45:27,990
these

838
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:31,860
John C Dvorak: guys His name is
so somebody that Oh, leering.

839
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,840
Oh, Larry. Larry. Oh, Larry.
Yeah, he's

840
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,240
Adam Curry: Mr. Wonderful. Well,
he's

841
00:45:36,270 --> 00:45:40,230
John C Dvorak: always dressed to
the 10s He's wearing a cufflinks

842
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:43,860
he's wearing an expensive suit.
He's got that exact same look.

843
00:45:43,980 --> 00:45:47,460
That's what Calacanis is
copying. He's looked he sees

844
00:45:47,460 --> 00:45:50,610
Wow, this guy's getting a lot of
attention. Maybe if I dress like

845
00:45:50,670 --> 00:45:54,270
because Calacanis is a copycat
cancer what he's

846
00:45:55,530 --> 00:45:58,470
Adam Curry: is we known him
since the days of Silicon Alley

847
00:45:58,470 --> 00:46:02,790
when he was writing a rag he was
literally around right

848
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:05,010
John C Dvorak: to do the
producer stuff that we did once

849
00:46:05,010 --> 00:46:08,760
and one of his is doing he
started pot he took big talk Leo

850
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,490
into using this week and what
startups No no,

851
00:46:11,490 --> 00:46:14,490
Adam Curry: he stole it. He
stole it from Leo. Well, he's

852
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:17,610
John C Dvorak: I'm not I don't
think so. Okay, well, you would

853
00:46:17,610 --> 00:46:22,920
know Leo gave him permission.
Oh, Leo, only because he thought

854
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,830
that Calacanis was gonna, you
know, he didn't think he was

855
00:46:25,830 --> 00:46:29,040
going to be a competitor. It
just Yeah, sure. Go ahead and

856
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,250
use it. No, okay. He doesn't
steal stuff. He, he's, he's a

857
00:46:32,250 --> 00:46:36,660
copycat, but he's not. He's not
a thief. And so he took that

858
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:39,750
little game permission. So yeah,
okay. So he ran out with a whole

859
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:43,800
series of this this week. And
you know, when it failed anyway,

860
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,870
he's now he's this thing here.
It looks like it's semi

861
00:46:45,870 --> 00:46:46,770
successful when

862
00:46:46,770 --> 00:46:50,730
Adam Curry: I was. Well, he's
got David Sacks on and Chum off,

863
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,620
whatever, you know, chum off.
What's the guy's name?

864
00:46:52,620 --> 00:46:55,410
John C Dvorak: He's got a good
team. Yeah, no, those guys. Now

865
00:46:55,410 --> 00:46:57,090
he's dressing up like, Larry.

866
00:46:58,110 --> 00:47:00,450
Adam Curry: When I was living in
LA, remember, Christina moved

867
00:47:00,450 --> 00:47:02,550
out there for a little bit. And
she lived in LA, you may not

868
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:07,110
remember. But she did. And you
know, she was basically looking

869
00:47:07,110 --> 00:47:09,750
for it was a weird period. And
you know, that was going through

870
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:13,800
divorce was It was messy. It was
a messy, messy time. The she was

871
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,470
out there, and she was living
with a bunch of weirdos and I

872
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:19,410
was trying to keep my eye on
her. And I was trying to get her

873
00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:23,820
a gig and then I was on
Calacanis his show, which, what

874
00:47:23,820 --> 00:47:27,540
was it wasn't This Week in
Startups. It was something maybe

875
00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:30,540
it was I remember that he had,
he had his kind of little

876
00:47:30,540 --> 00:47:34,170
company there. And I took
Christina and he said, Oh, yeah,

877
00:47:34,170 --> 00:47:38,310
no, come back. And, and so she
did an interview, she

878
00:47:38,370 --> 00:47:41,190
interviewed for a job there. And
she came back said, I'm never

879
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:44,520
going to work for that creep.
Dad, that guy's weird. My

880
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,110
daughter wouldn't even work for
him.

881
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:50,070
John C Dvorak: So there's other
people that went through that,

882
00:47:50,070 --> 00:47:50,700
you know,

883
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:54,180
Adam Curry: Molly wood for a
while Molly was even

884
00:47:55,620 --> 00:48:00,900
John C Dvorak: a good sale is he
is an excellent sales guy. And

885
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:04,740
he knows how to do it. He says,
Yeah, he's really good. Yeah.

886
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,000
And so he's done well for
himself. And I, you know, enjoy.

887
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:11,880
He definitely talked like just
as much you notice this when he

888
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,450
resigned,

889
00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:20,610
Adam Curry: but his whole thing,
what he did well, is he he kind

890
00:48:20,610 --> 00:48:23,520
of got into that Y Combinator
group and invested in some

891
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,360
things early. And that's why he
got into Uber early. And then

892
00:48:27,390 --> 00:48:31,050
you know, he invested in Tesla
early, because through his

893
00:48:31,830 --> 00:48:36,150
contacts at Sequoia I think we
got a rule off the hill dropping

894
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:39,120
him to Oh, Rudolph, I heard from
Rudolph Rudolph is the CEO now

895
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,020
he's the David Rudolph is the is
the South African Cabal, the

896
00:48:43,020 --> 00:48:45,540
other part, the part of Elon
that actually does stuff behind

897
00:48:45,540 --> 00:48:51,750
the scenes. And, and, you know,
and so he's Elon is best friend.

898
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,800
I remember he was at the
takeover of Twitter, and he was

899
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,630
oh, maybe I should be the CEO.
Goodbye. I haven't forgotten

900
00:49:00,630 --> 00:49:03,240
that. Remember, he was kind of
vying to be be

901
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:07,710
John C Dvorak: CEO. Anyway,
well, he's you know, he does he

902
00:49:07,710 --> 00:49:11,070
is a good sales guy but he
doesn't he's not perfect so I

903
00:49:11,370 --> 00:49:14,070
can't pull everything up look
but this idea of wearing this

904
00:49:14,070 --> 00:49:17,970
suit and tie that he's got let's
check I just shake shake him and

905
00:49:17,970 --> 00:49:20,610
he's got a different kind of
hair cut those glasses you

906
00:49:20,610 --> 00:49:24,330
talked about he's he's posing as
a poser.

907
00:49:24,330 --> 00:49:28,470
Adam Curry: He kind of looks
like a 70s studio 54 coke dealer

908
00:49:29,490 --> 00:49:34,140
Don't you think in the way he
looks now? Yeah, maybe

909
00:49:34,170 --> 00:49:36,360
John C Dvorak: it might be an
interesting anyway. It's just

910
00:49:36,510 --> 00:49:39,720
and who knows? I don't know.
What's he up to? We don't know.

911
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:42,750
Well, first let me just say but
he did get he get on. He got on

912
00:49:42,750 --> 00:49:45,510
waters and waters lapped it up
like I

913
00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:49,080
Adam Curry: want to say the
world would be a lot less

914
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:54,270
colorful without Jason. I'm I
mean, I'm happy he's in. I

915
00:49:54,270 --> 00:49:57,180
sincerely mean that. We rag on
him. But

916
00:49:57,180 --> 00:49:59,280
John C Dvorak: it would be
gorgeous. That does what we do.

917
00:49:59,310 --> 00:50:01,950
It's would be a A lot less
colorful without Jace anyway,

918
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:05,190
Adam Curry: so there's only so
I'm watching this interview and

919
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:09,690
Jason is trying to be funny. I'm
trying to do you know, tough

920
00:50:09,690 --> 00:50:12,930
questions which Trump was not
having at all. He was not

921
00:50:12,930 --> 00:50:17,010
having. I listen to this on the
plane, and I fell asleep. So

922
00:50:17,010 --> 00:50:20,490
after like 2530 minutes, half an
hour and a half. I couldn't even

923
00:50:20,490 --> 00:50:23,640
listen to it. But I did listen
to this one thing. And it was

924
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,570
kind of like, oh, because David
Sachs is the dangerous guy here.

925
00:50:28,020 --> 00:50:30,660
What is what is the deal with
this? David Sachs? Where's he's

926
00:50:30,660 --> 00:50:34,770
from? Because that's, that's why
Trump is on this show. David

927
00:50:34,770 --> 00:50:37,470
Sachs, what is his deal? Well,
he's

928
00:50:37,470 --> 00:50:40,110
John C Dvorak: a bundler for
sure. Yeah,

929
00:50:40,140 --> 00:50:42,300
Adam Curry: he's an
entrepreneur, a bundler. There

930
00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:43,410
you go. Bundler

931
00:50:43,620 --> 00:50:45,600
John C Dvorak: is a bundle. He's
the guy who knows how to put

932
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,820
together a party. They bring in
millions. Yeah.

933
00:50:48,450 --> 00:50:51,720
Adam Curry: Candidate. He's in
Pallant. Also,

934
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:54,300
John C Dvorak: I guess IVC in
some ways, but I think is his

935
00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:57,240
skill is being and he's one of
those guys. Yeah. He'll get

936
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:59,790
he'll become David Sachs, who
will be in the Trump

937
00:50:59,790 --> 00:51:03,180
administration. Yes. As the
ambassador to France, or England

938
00:51:03,180 --> 00:51:05,970
or something like that. And all
these VCs want to be

939
00:51:05,970 --> 00:51:07,230
ambassadors. Yeah. But

940
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:09,450
Adam Curry: maybe he'll get
something, something close. But

941
00:51:09,450 --> 00:51:13,680
we'll see. He'll do. Now. He
might do policy. So So I guess

942
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,880
David Sachs, was part of the
biggest CEO get together and

943
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,540
maybe was at his house. And they
told Trump about this little

944
00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:25,200
little two word thing and little
thing, a little little thing

945
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,700
called AI. We

946
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:29,280
Unknown: have a phenomena coming
up right now. And I was talking

947
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,460
about it the other day to David.
And that's AI little thing,

948
00:51:32,460 --> 00:51:37,530
simple, two little simple
letters, but it's big. And I

949
00:51:37,530 --> 00:51:40,530
realized the other day, more
than any time when we were at

950
00:51:40,530 --> 00:51:44,310
David's house, and talking to a
lot of geniuses from Silicon

951
00:51:44,310 --> 00:51:49,380
Valley and other places, they
need electricity at levels that

952
00:51:49,380 --> 00:51:52,920
nobody's ever experienced before
to have to be successful to be a

953
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,000
leader in AI. The amount of
electricity that is like double

954
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,000
what we have right now and even
triple while we have right now.

955
00:52:00,270 --> 00:52:05,820
They are they It's incredible
how much they need to be the

956
00:52:05,820 --> 00:52:09,240
leader. And we're gonna have to
be able to do that. And a

957
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:12,420
windmill turning with its blade
knocking out the birds and

958
00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:15,810
everything else is not going to
be able to make us competitive

959
00:52:15,810 --> 00:52:16,770
you'll have what

960
00:52:16,770 --> 00:52:19,380
Adam Curry: about what about
nuclear? Mr. President? Yeah, so

961
00:52:19,380 --> 00:52:23,940
let me just give you a statistic
so many go on he actually he

962
00:52:23,940 --> 00:52:26,160
knows he knows the problems and
even said, you know, France,

963
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,830
those guys are smart. They did.
They got modular, they can do

964
00:52:28,830 --> 00:52:31,530
all the same thing. Not like
we're idiots. Everything's

965
00:52:31,530 --> 00:52:35,280
different every so he he was
good. But he's being psyops in

966
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,900
this AI thing. And you and I had
been talking. We don't talk much

967
00:52:39,930 --> 00:52:42,690
outside the show, but after the
show was, um, you know, post

968
00:52:42,690 --> 00:52:45,750
producing, and we're compressing
everything getting it all done.

969
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:49,440
We'll chat a little bit. And
we've been talking about when,

970
00:52:49,470 --> 00:52:52,290
what is it? What is the trigger
that is going to take this

971
00:52:52,290 --> 00:52:54,120
nonsense down this AI?

972
00:52:54,330 --> 00:52:57,480
John C Dvorak: Right? And we did
discuss this in the last post

973
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,470
mortem. Yes,

974
00:52:58,470 --> 00:53:01,800
Adam Curry: post mortem. And I
think I may have found one and

975
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,280
it comes a lot because you said
if we could figure out what the

976
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:11,490
real downfall was of the dot,
what pop the.com bubble, we may

977
00:53:11,490 --> 00:53:18,240
be able to figure out what pops
the what pops the AI bubble, and

978
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:21,030
I think I may have found it. And

979
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:22,890
John C Dvorak: when did you
figure out what popped the duck?

980
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:25,950
Because I think back on it, and
I'm thinking what the hell pop

981
00:53:25,950 --> 00:53:27,090
the.com Well,

982
00:53:27,690 --> 00:53:33,480
Adam Curry: allow me. I was in
the Netherlands in 2000, end of

983
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:40,620
99 2000. And it was World
online. World online was going

984
00:53:40,620 --> 00:53:45,570
to be the biggest IPO run by a
lady called Nina brink. And I

985
00:53:45,570 --> 00:53:49,530
know Nina Brink Because Ron Blum
and I tried to get our initial

986
00:53:49,710 --> 00:53:53,310
financing from Nina brink.
Because you know, we were run

987
00:53:53,310 --> 00:53:57,150
all over the world. Yeah, we
before we, before we had the

988
00:53:57,150 --> 00:53:59,670
venture capital money, we're
trying to figure out where can

989
00:53:59,670 --> 00:54:02,790
we raise money from and of
course, you know, I had my

990
00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:06,990
contacts in Holland, and somehow
we run into Nina brink. And

991
00:54:06,990 --> 00:54:10,500
she's been involved. I mean,
her. Her whole thing is, oh,

992
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:13,500
we'll do a big announcement with
an LOI. We'll have an LOI. She's

993
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:16,980
a miss loi, which is a letter of
intent, which is completely

994
00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:20,370
meaningless. At the end of the
day, she didn't actually want to

995
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,300
invest. She wanted to give us a
subordinated loan. Right. Okay.

996
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:30,360
No. So it was a big run around
and but she is very she has been

997
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,230
very successful in a whole bunch
of other businesses. And now she

998
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:37,740
was going to set up this whole
world online thing she had, and

999
00:54:37,740 --> 00:54:40,920
she had bought France Telecom
and all these different internet

1000
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,120
providers, and was going to be
the global online internet

1001
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,800
provider. And everybody had
money in the IPO. I had friends

1002
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,860
and family. Oh, I mean on the
friends and family was great.

1003
00:54:53,370 --> 00:54:57,420
She just she discloses one day
before the IPO that she actually

1004
00:54:57,420 --> 00:55:03,150
sold all of her stock before the
IPO. And the IPO tanked and

1005
00:55:03,150 --> 00:55:07,440
after that, as far as I know,
everything in public markets

1006
00:55:07,470 --> 00:55:12,810
went just went to crap and the
whole thing fell apart. I can't

1007
00:55:12,810 --> 00:55:16,800
say for sure that the world
online failed IPO was really the

1008
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,970
trigger but it I find it
coincidental that she pops up in

1009
00:55:20,970 --> 00:55:26,430
the news. As I'm traveling back
from the Netherlands. I'm at the

1010
00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:29,700
airport and the financial
newspaper the financial doc

1011
00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:35,250
blood has this whole story about
renovado Biosciences here in

1012
00:55:35,250 --> 00:55:39,030
fact, Hindenburg researchers
after them, you know, Hindenburg

1013
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:41,880
research. Oh, yeah. These are
the short sellers. Here's their

1014
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:47,280
headline renovado biosciences, a
worthless AI shell game with a

1015
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,390
murderous magician past. I mean,
and this has Nina bring who's

1016
00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:57,360
now Nina storms, Dr. Nina storms
no less than wood. So she was

1017
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,990
somehow she bought this. She was
involved in this Biosciences

1018
00:56:00,990 --> 00:56:06,270
Company, which was set up by
this guy who had you know, he's

1019
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:09,630
he's one of the most important
scientists in the world. But it

1020
00:56:09,630 --> 00:56:12,600
turns out that he killed one of
his forehead, one of his former

1021
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:17,970
partners shot to death. And then
the whole thing is a mess. But

1022
00:56:18,090 --> 00:56:21,210
what she was going to do was
going to bring in this company

1023
00:56:21,390 --> 00:56:26,490
and put it together with this
run renovado biosciences, and

1024
00:56:26,490 --> 00:56:29,130
they took it public. And she
brought in this company called

1025
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:36,090
Jenny cube, which is literally
nothing. Jenni cube, GN ICU B E,

1026
00:56:36,420 --> 00:56:38,490
which is kind of interesting,
because you know, whenever you

1027
00:56:38,490 --> 00:56:43,050
put cube in, it sounds so
scientific. And, and this thing

1028
00:56:43,050 --> 00:56:45,960
is coming. It's publicly listed,
this thing is coming apart at

1029
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,790
the seams. And there's all kinds
of investigations and and

1030
00:56:50,790 --> 00:56:55,770
because the sheep brought in the
AI nonsense. I mean, there's, I

1031
00:56:55,770 --> 00:57:00,900
mean, really gobbly gook of
flowery language, which really

1032
00:57:00,930 --> 00:57:06,540
is means nothing. Absolutely
nothing. I think that this may,

1033
00:57:06,660 --> 00:57:09,420
even though it's not a direct
trigger, I think that this is

1034
00:57:09,420 --> 00:57:14,490
it. I think whenever Nina Brink
shows up, it's time to bail.

1035
00:57:17,130 --> 00:57:19,320
John C Dvorak: Well, then why
should go short in video and see

1036
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,020
what happens? Good luck.

1037
00:57:25,170 --> 00:57:28,770
Adam Curry: I don't know. I'm
not so sure I want to do that.

1038
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:32,790
But but at least things know
that.

1039
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:39,360
John C Dvorak: We have in our
audience, kind of I would say

1040
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,860
armchair analysts,

1041
00:57:40,890 --> 00:57:42,300
Adam Curry: yes, we do. Who
knows

1042
00:57:42,330 --> 00:57:46,140
John C Dvorak: develop stuff. of
many of these ideas are quite

1043
00:57:46,140 --> 00:57:50,490
good. They're just not. They're
not polished. But we have at

1044
00:57:50,490 --> 00:57:55,830
least 10 people in our audience
that can have theories, I bet if

1045
00:57:55,830 --> 00:57:59,250
we asked for them, that can
provide us with theories as to

1046
00:57:59,250 --> 00:58:03,180
why the.com collapse took place.
Now I remember a previous

1047
00:58:03,180 --> 00:58:06,660
collapse. And this is the more
obscure and I can't remember the

1048
00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:10,440
name of the IPO that failed. And
it became a collapse the entire

1049
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:16,320
industry of council games during
the Atari era. Console games.

1050
00:58:16,860 --> 00:58:21,360
Yeah, there was a big boom in
games that refer these game

1051
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,840
consoles not to you know, this
is all pre Nintendo is when you

1052
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,080
had the Atari and a bunch of
these other you know, Pong was

1053
00:58:28,140 --> 00:58:32,220
was a player back in Yeah. And
there was a bunch of these games

1054
00:58:32,220 --> 00:58:36,780
that we came up for the Atari
mostly game councils, all blocky

1055
00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:41,130
was terrible. But there was the
one Vamp and Colico vision. That

1056
00:58:41,130 --> 00:58:44,130
was that was an example. Yeah.
And there was a bunch of these

1057
00:58:44,130 --> 00:58:47,040
companies. And then one of them
there was these IPOs that were

1058
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,020
starting to develop, and they
were coming out with these

1059
00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:53,790
different these game companies
and one game company failed. And

1060
00:58:53,790 --> 00:58:57,150
they brought the whole industry
down. And it was the end of it.

1061
00:58:57,150 --> 00:58:59,700
In fact, there wasn't anything
after that, except the Nintendo

1062
00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:02,700
was was left in the it was kind
of came out of the ashes and

1063
00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:06,300
took over the place. And then
Sony came in later. And then we

1064
00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:08,880
had other things say again, and
things like that. It was a very

1065
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,850
interesting phenomenon of
Washington transition from one

1066
00:59:11,850 --> 00:59:15,870
to the other, but a collapse
took place in the meantime. And

1067
00:59:15,870 --> 00:59:20,610
that collapse was triggered by a
fail. A failed IPO that was

1068
00:59:20,610 --> 00:59:23,760
triggered by something that
would again is one of these

1069
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:29,700
things that the trigger
mechanism may be elusive. But

1070
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:32,550
when it happens, it's
noticeable. And it goes fast.

1071
00:59:32,730 --> 00:59:36,000
Adam Curry: Yeah. slowly, very
slowly and then fast all of a

1072
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,590
sudden, I wonder what that was.
I wonder what that was? Because

1073
00:59:41,070 --> 00:59:44,220
the Nintendo NES came at the was
it Sega

1074
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:48,690
John C Dvorak: will shake it No,
Sega came up with NES and they

1075
00:59:48,990 --> 00:59:53,670
hung in there for the for most
of the the second round of

1076
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:58,530
games. And Sega just quit on its
own. It just decided out of the

1077
00:59:58,530 --> 01:00:02,100
blue to stop doing it. After the
Dreamcast, which is a killer

1078
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:09,450
machine. But that whole market
is is a study in itself. But to

1079
01:00:09,450 --> 01:00:14,340
study these other phenomenas,
and the AI thing is there it

1080
01:00:14,340 --> 01:00:16,500
will happen because there's no
way that this is going to

1081
01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:18,750
continue with their power
requirements and some of the

1082
01:00:18,750 --> 01:00:23,760
things going on with the with,
with the promises and and

1083
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,150
delivering not much more than
just kind of crappy art.

1084
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:32,940
Adam Curry: There's not much
going on. Yeah, isn't that nice

1085
01:00:32,940 --> 01:00:33,990
demos? Everybody

1086
01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:36,210
John C Dvorak: is not right. We
don't see any Shakespearean

1087
01:00:36,210 --> 01:00:38,430
plays coming out of any of this
stuff.

1088
01:00:38,430 --> 01:00:41,370
Adam Curry: Well, what what is
definitely sure is that people

1089
01:00:41,370 --> 01:00:46,770
are very disappointed by the
reality of the interaction with

1090
01:00:46,770 --> 01:00:51,540
the voice response versus the
demo. Because I, because I know,

1091
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,920
Sam Altman was also interviewed
by Jay Cowell about a month ago

1092
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,950
and right so you know, as I'm
thumbing through away from this

1093
01:00:58,950 --> 01:01:02,430
Trump interview, I get the
Altman interview, an hour of

1094
01:01:02,430 --> 01:01:07,110
nothing, the guy says nothing.
Yeah, that's really interesting.

1095
01:01:09,150 --> 01:01:14,460
And, and J cow, and Charmouth.
And whoever these guys are,

1096
01:01:14,970 --> 01:01:17,820
sacks, they were all saying,
Well, you know, it has a lot of

1097
01:01:17,820 --> 01:01:21,510
promise, but it was the latency.
They kept talking about the

1098
01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:26,730
latency. I didn't see any
latency in that demo with Oh, I

1099
01:01:26,730 --> 01:01:29,160
see you're sitting in a cool
room. Are you getting ready to

1100
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:34,230
do a podcast or maybe a demo?
There was no latency there. So

1101
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:38,640
they sexed it up the whole demo
is fake and phony. is fake and

1102
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:39,210
phony.

1103
01:01:41,700 --> 01:01:46,410
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
that's nothing new now. Well, we

1104
01:01:46,410 --> 01:01:50,190
haven't fed, you have at least
some thoughts on this. And but

1105
01:01:50,190 --> 01:01:55,680
we're soliciting further
thoughts from the audience of

1106
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:56,580
producers? Yeah.

1107
01:01:56,610 --> 01:01:59,400
Adam Curry: Well, particularly
the gaming history. Someone out

1108
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,450
there will know for sure. But
this has this has got and when

1109
01:02:03,450 --> 01:02:07,050
this goes, Man is going to be
spectacular. I think they need

1110
01:02:07,050 --> 01:02:07,350
to keep

1111
01:02:08,250 --> 01:02:12,090
John C Dvorak: it as spectacular
as the.com collapse. To me, that

1112
01:02:12,090 --> 01:02:16,770
was the most spectacular thing
I've ever seen. Well, that took

1113
01:02:16,770 --> 01:02:19,860
the whole market. Well, this
will to this. Will that mean the

1114
01:02:20,340 --> 01:02:23,310
NVIDIA for is carrying the
market? Yes,

1115
01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:24,780
Adam Curry: it's carrying
everything.

1116
01:02:26,220 --> 01:02:28,380
John C Dvorak: But what we've
gone from a chipmaker that

1117
01:02:28,380 --> 01:02:31,890
makes, you know, processors for
gamers to the biggest

1118
01:02:31,890 --> 01:02:34,050
corporation in the world.
Really?

1119
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,720
Adam Curry: Yeah. Which needs
eight times the power to power

1120
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,590
their chips, but even work, it's
just hard. No, it's like, no,

1121
01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:45,090
this is not going to happen.
Anyways, speaking of fake and

1122
01:02:45,090 --> 01:02:47,670
phony, I'm going to get two more
clips here from I'm gonna go

1123
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:52,620
back for a second power and
energy. So we have the unique

1124
01:02:52,620 --> 01:02:57,120
opportunity to show the future a
unique opportunity, I say, to

1125
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,650
show the future of solar and
wind and how we all can live in

1126
01:03:01,650 --> 01:03:06,390
harmony without any carbon
dioxide, I'm sorry, carbon, and

1127
01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:10,290
that is Ukraine. Ukraine could
be a shining example. And the

1128
01:03:10,290 --> 01:03:12,840
Lensky is actually thinking
about it. Ukraine,

1129
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,120
Unknown: the energy grid has
come under sustained attack from

1130
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,060
Russian missiles. It's caused
more blackouts. The country's

1131
01:03:18,060 --> 01:03:21,630
facilities already struggling
after repeated targeting a

1132
01:03:21,630 --> 01:03:24,600
barrage of strikes have
continued this afternoon. Three

1133
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:29,070
people reported dead in our
Keefe. Now President Volodymyr

1134
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:32,700
Zelensky has said this week
there needs to be a rush for

1135
01:03:32,700 --> 01:03:36,750
replacement solar energy for
civil institutions across the

1136
01:03:36,750 --> 01:03:39,840
country, he said is a time of
panic. Let's have a listen to

1137
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,910
his words from overnight. The

1138
01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:45,810
government has been tasked with
immediately presenting a program

1139
01:03:45,810 --> 01:03:50,340
to encourage the installation of
solar generation and energy

1140
01:03:50,340 --> 01:03:55,020
storage systems and Ukraine's
proposal program that is as

1141
01:03:55,020 --> 01:03:57,750
favorable as possible, David.
All

1142
01:03:57,750 --> 01:04:00,990
Adam Curry: right. Let's do it.
Let's prove it. Let's bring out

1143
01:04:00,990 --> 01:04:05,640
some solar make it all work
power your cities. I'd love to

1144
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:12,600
see it. We all know it's not
going to work. quick little

1145
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:22,590
update on the orange painting of
Stonehenge and Taylor Swift jet.

1146
01:04:22,590 --> 01:04:28,890
So as I already said, it wasn't
Taylor Swift jet. No, these

1147
01:04:28,890 --> 01:04:33,360
people just went in spray
painted someone else's jets. And

1148
01:04:34,140 --> 01:04:39,570
the like this is this is very
this is a very costly thing. If

1149
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,020
you can't just fly with some
paint on there. You know,

1150
01:04:43,020 --> 01:04:47,280
there's all kinds of bad things
happen at high speeds. And so I

1151
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,850
go looking like but what exactly
because it came out of fire

1152
01:04:50,850 --> 01:04:54,450
extinguishers. It looked like
that. Fire extinguishers. The

1153
01:04:54,450 --> 01:04:57,390
stuff they were Yeah, they were
filled with paint. Well, no,

1154
01:04:57,390 --> 01:04:58,500
it's not paint.

1155
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,900
Unknown: So Danielle, what do we
know about the as protesters,

1156
01:05:01,170 --> 01:05:05,880
and is this orange stuff like
reversible like is are these

1157
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,390
rocks gonna be okay? They're
gonna be okay. And they're gonna

1158
01:05:09,390 --> 01:05:12,150
wash away at least that's what
we're told by the protesters.

1159
01:05:12,750 --> 01:05:15,810
I'm not gonna give you our
viewers history lesson here. But

1160
01:05:15,810 --> 01:05:20,100
there's a reason why Stonehenge
is so remarkable. It's a UNESCO

1161
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:23,310
heritage site. It's one of the
most recognizable landmarks here

1162
01:05:23,310 --> 01:05:29,010
in the UK, built 4500 years ago.
It's in perfect alignment with

1163
01:05:29,010 --> 01:05:32,790
the sun. We don't know who built
them. But we do know today who

1164
01:05:32,790 --> 01:05:36,330
tried to damage them a 21 year
old student from Oxford

1165
01:05:36,330 --> 01:05:40,290
University, a 73 year old man
who was quoted as saying that

1166
01:05:40,290 --> 01:05:44,400
the orange corn flour that was
used to create this eye catching

1167
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,240
spectacle will wash away with
the rain, but not the climate

1168
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,760
crisis if the leaders don't act.

1169
01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:52,140
Adam Curry: Okay, now I have

1170
01:05:52,350 --> 01:05:54,960
John C Dvorak: arrived. I've
heard just corn starch and a

1171
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:55,500
pigment,

1172
01:05:55,530 --> 01:05:59,160
Adam Curry: I got a serious
question. I have a serious

1173
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:03,240
question. If they haven't ruined
anything, because it washes off.

1174
01:06:03,510 --> 01:06:08,610
Why are we putting this on the
news? It's the same. They go on

1175
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,150
hold they spray painted a
painting? No, they put paint on

1176
01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:15,690
the glass. Why are we putting
these idiots on the news if they

1177
01:06:15,690 --> 01:06:17,340
didn't do anything? There?

1178
01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:19,770
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not
going to argue about the point

1179
01:06:19,770 --> 01:06:26,820
that this should not be covered.
But it's at Well, I think the

1180
01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:29,010
reason you put it on the news
because you got some crazy

1181
01:06:29,010 --> 01:06:32,580
maniac with a fire extinguisher
filled with his goo. And they're

1182
01:06:32,580 --> 01:06:35,880
spraying our side of an airplane
and you have a video of it is

1183
01:06:36,810 --> 01:06:39,870
but it was probably saying you
know this is kind of

1184
01:06:39,870 --> 01:06:41,490
interesting. Let's at least run
it. Oh,

1185
01:06:41,490 --> 01:06:43,410
Adam Curry: yeah. No, it's
because there's a point to be

1186
01:06:43,410 --> 01:06:46,470
made. It's all theater. It's not
actually ruining the airplane.

1187
01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:50,580
It's actually ruining the
priceless art. It's not ruining

1188
01:06:50,610 --> 01:06:57,720
Stonehenge. It's it's MK Ultra
is we're being mind controlled

1189
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:02,070
into thinking that these
children apparently a 73 year

1190
01:07:02,070 --> 01:07:05,520
old are so incensed that they
they feel they have to go and

1191
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,830
destroy valuable objects they're
not

1192
01:07:08,250 --> 01:07:11,100
John C Dvorak: well a couple of
things. First of all, until I

1193
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:16,650
see a washing machine spray just
take a pose and spray off that

1194
01:07:16,650 --> 01:07:20,250
crap that's on the airplanes
which is typically what should

1195
01:07:20,250 --> 01:07:23,640
happen the way they're
describing it. I don't believe

1196
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,200
it it's especially don't believe
the thing with stone edge that

1197
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,740
pigment if you ever buy just raw
pigments and you can do that if

1198
01:07:31,740 --> 01:07:34,530
you're if you go to an art
supply place a big one where

1199
01:07:34,530 --> 01:07:37,740
they sell literally just sell
pigment they don't sell it's not

1200
01:07:37,740 --> 01:07:41,340
paid as pigment is powder and
you can mix it with cornstarch

1201
01:07:41,340 --> 01:07:42,120
if you wanted to. And

1202
01:07:43,170 --> 01:07:46,470
Adam Curry: he said he says it's
corn dust.

1203
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,120
John C Dvorak: It's corn flour,
corn flour or corn starch it

1204
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,150
doesn't matter I we know what
this is it's a bits of its

1205
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:57,720
powder that you mix with the
pigment then you wait no way you

1206
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,660
can make it wet and make a
slurry and you can spray the

1207
01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:01,260
slurry.

1208
01:08:02,070 --> 01:08:03,840
Adam Curry: Are you with
extinction rebellion?

1209
01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:06,840
John C Dvorak: No, I'm just
saying this this reporting about

1210
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,690
how this stuff is wash right off
is bull crap. I

1211
01:08:09,690 --> 01:08:12,240
Adam Curry: don't Well you have
no which was your clip.

1212
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,020
John C Dvorak: I want to see it
washed off. That's what I'm just

1213
01:08:16,020 --> 01:08:16,680
show me.

1214
01:08:16,740 --> 01:08:19,080
Adam Curry: Okay, well, I'm just
saying that you're saying that.

1215
01:08:19,170 --> 01:08:22,050
No one said pigment. No one said
that. You're putting pigment in

1216
01:08:22,050 --> 01:08:23,310
there that stains everything.

1217
01:08:24,210 --> 01:08:27,000
John C Dvorak: Where's the
orange come from is not some

1218
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:27,840
magic from

1219
01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:29,339
Adam Curry: the Cheeto dust.

1220
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,030
John C Dvorak: Which is pigment.
It's a

1221
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:35,130
Adam Curry: Cheeto dust. You can
lick your fingers and it comes

1222
01:08:35,130 --> 01:08:35,790
right off.

1223
01:08:37,649 --> 01:08:39,599
John C Dvorak: Whistle last time
you tried to get all that crap

1224
01:08:39,599 --> 01:08:41,219
off your hand on the plane

1225
01:08:43,529 --> 01:08:45,449
Adam Curry: that they serve
Cheetos on the plane.

1226
01:08:46,859 --> 01:08:50,129
John C Dvorak: What plane serves
Cheetos, you got united

1227
01:08:50,130 --> 01:08:52,440
Adam Curry: they got dudes and
dresses. It's a great airline.

1228
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:56,940
They got everything, dude.
Alright, now we're talking about

1229
01:08:56,940 --> 01:09:00,600
food. I'm going to take this one
right up your alley, the latest

1230
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:06,060
in food cuisine. It's a code
cuisine. The exclusive

1231
01:09:06,150 --> 01:09:08,820
Unknown: solutions to the
climate crisis will take many

1232
01:09:08,820 --> 01:09:14,370
forms. One of which is algae.
That's according to Chef Callum

1233
01:09:14,370 --> 01:09:18,390
Monroe. He comes down to the
coast every other day to collect

1234
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:21,540
seaweed here on the Scottish
Isle of Skye.

1235
01:09:22,770 --> 01:09:26,130
Every week, maybe twice or three
times a week actually become a

1236
01:09:26,130 --> 01:09:30,210
yeah, see this one here which is
I would say up there with the

1237
01:09:30,210 --> 01:09:33,420
best at sea spaghetti as you can
tell why it's called Sea

1238
01:09:33,420 --> 01:09:36,660
spaghetti because it just looks
exactly like this. Again, it's

1239
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:41,100
quite a subtle flavor. But you
can use it just as human

1240
01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:42,570
spaghetti together

1241
01:09:42,570 --> 01:09:45,450
with climate activist Shona
Cameron, the two are trying to

1242
01:09:45,450 --> 01:09:48,540
bring seaweed back into the
kitchen. As a renewable

1243
01:09:48,540 --> 01:09:51,960
alternatives to fish and meat.
The seaweed is the vegetable of

1244
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,830
the sea and is available all
year round. Now sharing these

1245
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:59,040
ideas with schools condo with
recipes for the children to

1246
01:09:59,040 --> 01:09:59,640
learn. Oh

1247
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,700
Adam Curry: there you Go teach
him how to how to eat seaweed.

1248
01:10:03,390 --> 01:10:05,100
It's the vegetable of the sea.

1249
01:10:07,649 --> 01:10:09,569
John C Dvorak: That we're not
sure what to say this we're

1250
01:10:09,569 --> 01:10:13,859
going too far with thanks. It
says it stinks. It's a nice

1251
01:10:13,859 --> 01:10:15,389
wrapper for sushi.

1252
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:20,610
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's about
it. Stop. Stop there. He's

1253
01:10:20,610 --> 01:10:23,760
holding up the stringy seaweed.
Oh, it's just like spaghetti. In

1254
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:24,150
fact.

1255
01:10:27,210 --> 01:10:30,330
John C Dvorak: That's not well.
That would be the world's worst

1256
01:10:30,330 --> 01:10:32,580
spaghetti but okay. Yes.

1257
01:10:32,970 --> 01:10:38,550
Adam Curry: I'm in agreement
with you. Man Oh, man. Oh, man,

1258
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:38,700
we

1259
01:10:38,700 --> 01:10:41,550
John C Dvorak: before we drift
too far astray. Because you did

1260
01:10:41,550 --> 01:10:46,050
mention Trump. I want to bring
it back to that. Trump. I

1261
01:10:46,050 --> 01:10:49,560
watched Trump's Philadelphia
speech ah,

1262
01:10:49,620 --> 01:10:51,120
Adam Curry: I'm glad you did.
Okay,

1263
01:10:51,150 --> 01:10:53,280
John C Dvorak: I put it aside I
wanted to see if he had new

1264
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:54,690
material or

1265
01:10:54,690 --> 01:10:57,990
Adam Curry: is up to it was was
the kind of losing a little bit

1266
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:58,830
because now this

1267
01:10:58,830 --> 01:11:00,840
John C Dvorak: bowl crab in
fact, he brings that up

1268
01:11:00,870 --> 01:11:03,900
Adam Curry: I I'm just telling
you, you I played this bull

1269
01:11:03,900 --> 01:11:07,560
crap. He's prompter went out and
he wasn't good. And you heard

1270
01:11:07,590 --> 01:11:08,220
you agree.

1271
01:11:08,220 --> 01:11:10,470
John C Dvorak: I just see I
disagree. He didn't use much of

1272
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:14,430
a prompter in this speech. But
he does ramble. And then he

1273
01:11:14,430 --> 01:11:17,880
mocks himself for rambling he
discusses it needs reflect you

1274
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,090
Adam Curry: thought the shark
and the and the electrocution

1275
01:11:21,090 --> 01:11:22,230
was a good bit.

1276
01:11:22,770 --> 01:11:24,930
John C Dvorak: I didn't think it
was a good bit. It was a one of

1277
01:11:24,930 --> 01:11:28,080
his bits though. And I didn't
think it was horrible, like you

1278
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:32,310
said, but I do have two examples
of new bits. Okay, one of them

1279
01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:36,780
which is worse than the shark.
And one that I think he's going

1280
01:11:36,780 --> 01:11:41,580
to use in going forward. He has
a bunch of new material that

1281
01:11:41,580 --> 01:11:46,800
he's trying out a he's does an
hour and a half. He did two, two

1282
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,000
speeches on. He went did one in
Washington DC I guess which I

1283
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,490
didn't see. And then he went to
Philadelphia and did a big one.

1284
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,600
And it was interesting to see
how he keep his audience. I

1285
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,670
always check the background
because he always has a bunch of

1286
01:11:59,670 --> 01:12:04,230
people back there behind him and
he always has a couple of babes

1287
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:09,960
that have the they have a very
distinctive Trump babe look,

1288
01:12:10,260 --> 01:12:15,000
they got kind of their their
kind of angular face is very

1289
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,320
pretty photogenic looking
anyway, or telegenic and always

1290
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:23,130
holding up signs and undecided
back. He's got the signs are all

1291
01:12:23,130 --> 01:12:27,150
two sided now. So he's got two
messages, usually the Trump 24

1292
01:12:27,150 --> 01:12:28,140
ones and the other one was

1293
01:12:28,140 --> 01:12:30,360
Adam Curry: where they calot
where they calla pitches.

1294
01:12:32,010 --> 01:12:34,020
John C Dvorak: The girls don't
show their asses. They're just a

1295
01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:36,630
bunch of pretty faces in the
audience. All right, thank you.

1296
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:41,280
So the he's got the signs and
the science a Trump something on

1297
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:45,270
one side and the other side
says, Too Big to rig is his

1298
01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:49,170
latest news. Okay, so all the
signs you flip a Ross is too big

1299
01:12:49,170 --> 01:12:54,540
to rig. And but slowly he the
background evolves. So when he

1300
01:12:54,540 --> 01:12:57,210
finished the speech and started
talking about his audience

1301
01:12:57,210 --> 01:13:01,710
behind him, it was all black. It
was there wasn't a white face in

1302
01:13:01,710 --> 01:13:04,680
the crowd. It was all got it. I
mean, you see him switching them

1303
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:08,820
out. Excellent. And you can see
a couple of them were very, you

1304
01:13:08,820 --> 01:13:11,820
know, these very pretty women
there were everyone was swapped

1305
01:13:11,820 --> 01:13:15,600
out very slowly, like I think
one at a time. Oh, and then

1306
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,450
there's always a complete black
audience behind him at the very

1307
01:13:18,450 --> 01:13:19,950
end so he could reflect on this.

1308
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,140
Adam Curry: We're literally
doing this as he was speaking.

1309
01:13:22,140 --> 01:13:26,010
They're rotating the audience.
Yes. Wow, that's slick.

1310
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,260
John C Dvorak: And he had an
hour and a half to do it. So

1311
01:13:28,260 --> 01:13:31,110
that was it was so slow that you
didn't unless you watch the

1312
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:34,680
beginning, and then cut to the
end, you wouldn't have noticed

1313
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:34,770
that

1314
01:13:34,770 --> 01:13:37,080
Adam Curry: it was like a
rotating stage. But it just

1315
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,300
slowly wrote on a rotating

1316
01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:45,090
John C Dvorak: stage. So anyway,
so he has, I have two examples

1317
01:13:45,090 --> 01:13:50,880
of his new material. All right.
And they're short, but this is

1318
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,670
under Trump, and this will be
the one we're going to play here

1319
01:13:53,820 --> 01:13:57,090
is Trump, Pennsylvania, New
Material One, but they

1320
01:13:57,090 --> 01:14:01,020
Unknown: get in there all these
horrible compromising posts. And

1321
01:14:01,020 --> 01:14:03,720
then they say he wasn't it
really wasn't that way it was.

1322
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,050
So then everybody sends in, they
all have cameras. See every one

1323
01:14:07,050 --> 01:14:10,110
of you have a camera. If I blow
it up here, though, they

1324
01:14:10,110 --> 01:14:13,710
actually they take a perfect,
brilliant, beautiful statement

1325
01:14:13,710 --> 01:14:17,880
that I make. I go for two hours
without teleprompters. And if I

1326
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:23,940
say one word slightly out, they
say he's cognitively impaired.

1327
01:14:24,180 --> 01:14:28,020
Whereas Biden can run into
walls. He can fall off the

1328
01:14:28,020 --> 01:14:34,530
stage. He can fall up the
stairs. He pulls up. He can turn

1329
01:14:34,530 --> 01:14:39,570
around, listen to this. From
20,000 feet of paratroopers

1330
01:14:39,570 --> 01:14:43,620
landing right in front of him.
Everybody, oh, the foreign

1331
01:14:43,620 --> 01:14:47,640
leaders they're watching. And he
turns around to look at a tree.

1332
01:14:47,970 --> 01:14:51,630
And then they say it was fake.
He was fine. And then the press

1333
01:14:51,630 --> 01:14:54,900
goes along with it. They go
along with it. They say isn't a

1334
01:14:54,900 --> 01:14:58,230
terrible way, the way they cover
him now. Now he's terrible. The

1335
01:14:58,230 --> 01:15:02,340
worst president in history. Bye
Far, and we have to get about,

1336
01:15:02,940 --> 01:15:07,200
or this country is not going to
survive. Another year. No.

1337
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,780
Adam Curry: All right. All
right. That's good. That's

1338
01:15:09,780 --> 01:15:10,290
funny.

1339
01:15:10,890 --> 01:15:13,710
John C Dvorak: So that was your
material. So he did. So later he

1340
01:15:13,710 --> 01:15:17,640
does this bit, which is the
second clip only have two. And

1341
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,840
this was a bomb. And it was, and
I left the pauses in at the end.

1342
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:26,820
So he let the whole thing play.
And he, he gets nothing from

1343
01:15:26,820 --> 01:15:30,870
this material he's going to do.
And then so he that's a slide

1344
01:15:30,870 --> 01:15:35,490
for a while, and then he changes
the subject so radically, and I

1345
01:15:35,490 --> 01:15:39,210
only have the beginning of the
switchover at the very end. And

1346
01:15:39,210 --> 01:15:42,030
I was just saying, you shake
your head, but this will you'll

1347
01:15:42,030 --> 01:15:44,340
never hear this bit again. But
every

1348
01:15:44,460 --> 01:15:47,940
Unknown: every day, you're
reading about this. But how

1349
01:15:47,940 --> 01:15:52,080
embarrassing is it for me to
say, we will build a wall or we

1350
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:56,100
will build a border. But how
embarrassing it is to say we

1351
01:15:56,100 --> 01:16:00,990
will keep men and of women's
sports who who would want men to

1352
01:16:00,990 --> 01:16:04,650
play women's sports. And yet for
them for all these people,

1353
01:16:04,650 --> 01:16:08,070
including the fake news media,
for whatever reason. It's like a

1354
01:16:08,070 --> 01:16:11,010
big deal. Who would want it? Did
you ever look at the

1355
01:16:11,010 --> 01:16:16,530
weightlifting records? Records
that stood for 18 years? And a

1356
01:16:16,530 --> 01:16:19,710
guy comes up? Have you lifted
before? No, I haven't. Well,

1357
01:16:19,710 --> 01:16:23,670
they say a guy a person who
transitioned. Have you lifted

1358
01:16:23,670 --> 01:16:30,000
before? No, I haven't really? A
couple of days. Just over the

1359
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:37,110
thing, being being Bing Bing are
we crazy? Are the swimming with

1360
01:16:37,110 --> 01:16:40,860
a obliterate records obliterate
the women get Winburn as the

1361
01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:44,370
boys go by? I'm suffering
tremendous windburn what

1362
01:16:44,370 --> 01:16:48,150
happened to doctor says, Oh,
well, I was swimming. I'm an

1363
01:16:48,150 --> 01:16:53,310
Olympic swimmer. But a person
transitioned. And he went by me

1364
01:16:53,310 --> 01:16:58,230
so fast that the wind burned the
hell out of me, doctor. No, it's

1365
01:16:58,230 --> 01:17:04,170
so it's so crazy. And it's so
horrible for women. It's so

1366
01:17:04,710 --> 01:17:10,380
embarrassing for women. I will
fully uphold our Second

1367
01:17:10,380 --> 01:17:10,890
Amendment.

1368
01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:15,030
Adam Curry: Switch. Well, at
least he knows when to get out

1369
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:15,420
of it.

1370
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,320
John C Dvorak: But yes, he does.
He bailed. This is that Winburn

1371
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,870
thing. You'll never hear it
again. I'm sure of it because

1372
01:17:21,870 --> 01:17:24,210
that was a just bombed dog.

1373
01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:28,020
Adam Curry: It's this is because
of turning point USA. You know,

1374
01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:31,740
Charlie Kirk is touring with the
women now. And he's got Megyn

1375
01:17:31,740 --> 01:17:37,170
Kelly and Candace Owens and
Riley Gaines. And that's why

1376
01:17:37,170 --> 01:17:40,800
he's trying to shoehorn this in
but his punch line is right. He

1377
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,280
should be and there's a dude in
a dress. I mean, he used to do

1378
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,850
something like that. That's
funny. Now like he's

1379
01:17:47,850 --> 01:17:50,640
John C Dvorak: real Yeah, it
wasn't it was just funnier than

1380
01:17:51,630 --> 01:17:54,900
what he did that bit didn't
work. I make them weightlifting

1381
01:17:54,900 --> 01:17:58,590
thing almost got there but they
did that Winburn thing was no

1382
01:17:58,590 --> 01:18:01,260
good loser in that he's not
gonna you'll never hear it again

1383
01:18:01,290 --> 01:18:05,550
going back and then it switched
a second American audience back

1384
01:18:05,580 --> 01:18:10,710
Adam Curry: going back to the
first clip. The MSNBC is real is

1385
01:18:10,710 --> 01:18:15,270
doing this now. He's right there
trying to make him look like his

1386
01:18:15,270 --> 01:18:21,870
losing his mind. So now we have
the cheap fakes. Biden's great

1387
01:18:21,870 --> 01:18:26,430
sharp as a tack sharp as a tack
sharp as a tack sharp but Trump

1388
01:18:26,460 --> 01:18:29,790
Oh, no. So I have three clips.
I'll pretty short do actually

1389
01:18:29,790 --> 01:18:33,120
the second to a very short. This
is the first one British check

1390
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:38,520
of course. And and here's how
MSNBC is showing that Trump is

1391
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:39,720
losing his mind. There is

1392
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,120
Unknown: new audio of Donald
Trump admitting that he lost the

1393
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:46,620
2020 election and then quickly
reverting back to the original

1394
01:18:46,620 --> 01:18:50,190
lie. It comes from research for
the new book, apprentice in

1395
01:18:50,190 --> 01:18:54,480
Wonderland by Ramin Syd Tudor.
He spoke to the former president

1396
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:57,750
six times and recorded the
conversations. Trump's admission

1397
01:18:57,750 --> 01:19:00,120
that he lost came during a
conversation about his

1398
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:01,950
relationship with Geraldo
Rivera,

1399
01:19:01,980 --> 01:19:03,240
what was for all the work?

1400
01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:09,150
He was good. He did a good job.
He was smart, cunning, he did a

1401
01:19:09,150 --> 01:19:09,690
good job.

1402
01:19:10,620 --> 01:19:11,910
And are you guys too close? Or
you

1403
01:19:12,180 --> 01:19:20,130
know, I don't think so. He is.
After I lost the election, I won

1404
01:19:20,130 --> 01:19:24,750
the election. But when they said
he called me up three or four

1405
01:19:24,750 --> 01:19:25,680
times after I

1406
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,110
lost the election. I won the
election. And another

1407
01:19:28,110 --> 01:19:31,320
conversation with between Trump
and Institute. The former

1408
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,890
president claims that Joan
Rivers voted for him in 2016.

1409
01:19:35,490 --> 01:19:39,660
She was a Republican. I thought
she might have been a

1410
01:19:39,660 --> 01:19:43,710
Republican. I know one thing she
voted for me, according to what

1411
01:19:43,710 --> 01:19:43,860
she

1412
01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:47,580
said one small hitch with all of
that general has actually died

1413
01:19:47,580 --> 01:19:50,490
two years before that election.
He's losing

1414
01:19:50,490 --> 01:19:53,820
Adam Curry: his mind. I tell
you, losing his mind. Now listen

1415
01:19:53,820 --> 01:19:56,580
to Morning Joe, because they're
really doing this now.

1416
01:19:56,580 --> 01:19:58,740
Unknown: So like person
downloads in May. He wasn't

1417
01:19:58,740 --> 01:20:00,900
doing a lot of interviews and
then we sat down again towards

1418
01:20:00,900 --> 01:20:04,440
the end of the summer. And when
I sat down, I, you know, there

1419
01:20:04,440 --> 01:20:06,810
was a very blank expression on
his face. So I asked you

1420
01:20:06,810 --> 01:20:09,480
remember when we spoke recently?
And he said, No, I have no

1421
01:20:09,480 --> 01:20:12,810
memory of that. And he couldn't
recall he said it was a long

1422
01:20:12,810 --> 01:20:15,960
time ago. And then we had to
start from scratch. So the

1423
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,690
interview started from square
one where he was started telling

1424
01:20:18,690 --> 01:20:22,020
me the same exact stories that
we that we heard in our first

1425
01:20:22,020 --> 01:20:23,940
interview, so he didn't remember

1426
01:20:23,940 --> 01:20:29,250
Adam Curry: some numb nut from a
morning, Joe. And so he's losing

1427
01:20:29,250 --> 01:20:31,530
his mind. He's losing his mind.

1428
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,050
Unknown: But he also seemed to
think that he still had some

1429
01:20:34,290 --> 01:20:37,620
foreign policy powers. And
there's one day where he told me

1430
01:20:37,620 --> 01:20:40,440
he needed to go upstairs to deal
with Afghanistan, even though he

1431
01:20:40,440 --> 01:20:42,180
clearly didn't. He

1432
01:20:42,180 --> 01:20:45,090
told you that he while you were
interviewing him at Trump Tower,

1433
01:20:45,090 --> 01:20:46,710
he told you he needed to go
upstairs to deal with

1434
01:20:46,710 --> 01:20:47,790
Afghanistan with the

1435
01:20:47,790 --> 01:20:50,040
quote, the Afghanistan is how we
refer to it.

1436
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,230
Adam Curry: Oh, he's losing his
mind.

1437
01:20:53,670 --> 01:20:55,350
Unknown: losing his mind, I tell
you,

1438
01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:59,130
John C Dvorak: yes. I have
noticed this this phenomenon,

1439
01:20:59,130 --> 01:21:03,690
too. And it's always on, it's on
CNN and MSNBC only. And they are

1440
01:21:03,690 --> 01:21:06,840
looking at the one that really
got everybody's attention was

1441
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:12,840
when he called Ronnie Jackson,
Ronnie Johnson, at one of his

1442
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:19,830
speeches. So everybody jumped on
this, including Jon Stewart, on

1443
01:21:19,830 --> 01:21:25,080
his on his Monday night show.
Yeah. And it was Bah, he can't

1444
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:30,480
even remember the name of his
own doctor. And, and they use it

1445
01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:34,260
and they've been Trump referred
to that particular moment in his

1446
01:21:34,260 --> 01:21:40,440
Pennsylvania's speech. And but
yes, they're trying to make him

1447
01:21:40,740 --> 01:21:45,930
seem like Biden. Now, almost the
same age, you know,

1448
01:21:47,010 --> 01:21:50,790
Adam Curry: since you bring up
Jon Stewart, so he does the

1449
01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:56,070
Daily Show on Fridays, I think
is it one day Mondays, Mondays?

1450
01:21:56,070 --> 01:22:00,150
One day a week, but he also has
the Daily Show podcast, and of

1451
01:22:00,150 --> 01:22:03,270
course, this is up my alley,
because you know, pod father

1452
01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:08,250
everything. Boy, pay attention,
that stuff. And the so you think

1453
01:22:08,250 --> 01:22:11,640
the Daily Show podcast, I think
it was originally called the

1454
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,280
Johnson, I'm not quite sure that
the name has changed. Sometimes

1455
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,550
he drops the podcast from it.
But you'd be expecting to hear a

1456
01:22:17,550 --> 01:22:24,060
funny, you know, like a, like an
irreverent type show. No, it's

1457
01:22:24,060 --> 01:22:26,610
John C Dvorak: what you'd expect
a podcast to be extreme.

1458
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,660
Adam Curry: It's a bit boring.
And he has Blong boring

1459
01:22:30,660 --> 01:22:33,780
conference. It's kind of like
that Apple show, which was just

1460
01:22:33,780 --> 01:22:37,980
boring. So that Apple show is
the worst. So so he got this

1461
01:22:37,980 --> 01:22:41,730
boring show. And it's
interesting, because he did did

1462
01:22:41,730 --> 01:22:45,330
just have a minute and a half of
the boring show, where he talked

1463
01:22:45,330 --> 01:22:49,830
to Kathleen Hicks. Who is I
don't what is she? What is her?

1464
01:22:50,700 --> 01:22:55,470
She's high up in the paint and a
Department of Defense. Isn't she

1465
01:22:55,470 --> 01:22:56,100
the?

1466
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,620
John C Dvorak: She was one of
Trump's old assistants now.

1467
01:22:59,910 --> 01:23:03,390
Adam Curry: That was the Qt No,
that's a different one. That was

1468
01:23:03,390 --> 01:23:09,420
the press secretary? No.
Kathleen Hicks is the Deputy

1469
01:23:09,420 --> 01:23:13,410
Secretary of Defense. And he
gets into it, whether about the

1470
01:23:13,410 --> 01:23:17,130
audits of of the Department of
Defense, or as we would say,

1471
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:21,210
audit the Pentagon, it would be
a good thing. And I thought what

1472
01:23:21,210 --> 01:23:23,520
came out of it was kind of
interesting. I had an

1473
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:24,060
opportunity

1474
01:23:24,060 --> 01:23:28,170
Unknown: to speak with the
Deputy Secretary of Defense cap,

1475
01:23:28,170 --> 01:23:29,880
Adam Curry: you can already hear
the show is boring. It's like,

1476
01:23:30,270 --> 01:23:33,210
John C Dvorak: yeah, it's
already it's already boring

1477
01:23:33,210 --> 01:23:36,090
wants to be on PBS or something
or NPR. He

1478
01:23:36,090 --> 01:23:38,190
Adam Curry: needs to he needs to
get closer to the mic. I had an

1479
01:23:38,190 --> 01:23:42,000
opportunity to speak to a
Catholic and activity Secretary

1480
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,440
of the Department of Defense.

1481
01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:48,030
Unknown: And I just asked about
the failing of the audits. And I

1482
01:23:48,030 --> 01:23:51,630
want you to I want you to
listen, I think to what I felt

1483
01:23:51,630 --> 01:23:58,470
like was a remarkably defensive
for no reason, attitude about

1484
01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:02,190
even the prospect of being
questioned on this. But don't

1485
01:24:02,190 --> 01:24:04,560
you think that that does speak
to the larger point that we're

1486
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:09,900
trying to get at which is good
journalism, uncovers corruption.

1487
01:24:11,190 --> 01:24:14,940
And I mean, good journalism
doesn't cover corruption, but

1488
01:24:15,300 --> 01:24:18,690
I'm not sure these two things
are linked and honest. Not they

1489
01:24:18,690 --> 01:24:22,020
are. Okay. So you need to
explain to me, do you understand

1490
01:24:22,020 --> 01:24:24,930
what an audit does? And the
degree to which it is linked to

1491
01:24:24,930 --> 01:24:26,160
the question that you're asking?

1492
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:27,960
I believe so. Okay, go ahead.

1493
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:31,890
Give me your explanation. No, I

1494
01:24:31,890 --> 01:24:36,810
don't mind learning. So what I
would suggest is that the audit

1495
01:24:36,810 --> 01:24:42,210
that they have in the military
doesn't really look at whether

1496
01:24:42,210 --> 01:24:45,690
or not there's efficacy, it just
whether they got delivered the

1497
01:24:45,690 --> 01:24:47,520
thing that they ordered, and

1498
01:24:47,970 --> 01:24:51,030
that is any audit, that is any
audit, that is true.

1499
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:54,780
Generally, those audits aren't
$400 billion for Raytheon and

1500
01:24:54,810 --> 01:24:58,800
$1.7 trillion, for a plane that
doesn't seem to be doing like

1501
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,710
there is a lot of waste fraud.
On an abuse within a system

1502
01:25:01,740 --> 01:25:05,190
audit, waste, fraud and abuse
are not the same thing. So let's

1503
01:25:05,220 --> 01:25:09,660
decompose these leads educate me
on what so an audit is exactly

1504
01:25:09,660 --> 01:25:11,310
what you just described, which
is,

1505
01:25:11,490 --> 01:25:13,680
Adam Curry: why did you say
let's decompose this?

1506
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:18,990
Unknown: That's playback or just
for a plane that doesn't seem to

1507
01:25:18,990 --> 01:25:22,020
be doing like there is a lot of
waste, fraud and abuse within a

1508
01:25:22,020 --> 01:25:22,980
system audit,

1509
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,860
waste, fraud and abuse are not
the same thing. So let's

1510
01:25:25,890 --> 01:25:27,600
decompose these leads

1511
01:25:27,630 --> 01:25:30,180
educate me on decompose.

1512
01:25:30,300 --> 01:25:30,780
Adam Curry: Yes. She

1513
01:25:30,780 --> 01:25:32,700
John C Dvorak: said that she
said decompose.

1514
01:25:35,460 --> 01:25:38,160
Unknown: waste, fraud and abuse
are not the same thing. So let's

1515
01:25:38,190 --> 01:25:42,630
decompose these leads educate me
on what so an audit is exactly

1516
01:25:42,630 --> 01:25:45,870
what you just described, which
is do I know what was delivered

1517
01:25:45,870 --> 01:25:49,320
to which place? Right the
ability to pass an audit or in

1518
01:25:49,410 --> 01:25:52,710
the fact that the DOD has not
passed not and is not suggestive

1519
01:25:52,740 --> 01:25:54,030
of waste, fraud and abuse?

1520
01:25:54,090 --> 01:25:57,720
The conversation goes on to the
point where she says to me, you

1521
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,480
seem awfully concerned about the
money,

1522
01:26:00,540 --> 01:26:03,270
Adam Curry: so I stopped it
there. But that was kind of I

1523
01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:06,090
thought that was interesting
that an audit is not about the

1524
01:26:06,090 --> 01:26:12,600
waist, no, it's about we spent
$100,000 on a toilet washer. And

1525
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,660
did we get it or not? Not if
it's not if it's a wasteful

1526
01:26:15,660 --> 01:26:20,190
expenditure? So that was the
only interesting thing of that

1527
01:26:20,190 --> 01:26:22,890
entire boring show. But it leads
well,

1528
01:26:23,340 --> 01:26:26,280
John C Dvorak: yes, well, I will
say this, that she got defensive

1529
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:30,360
because of the nature of the way
he orchestrated the question by

1530
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,960
assuming immediately that there
was waste, fraud and abuse, and

1531
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:40,290
that's the reason for no audit.
So I believe that she reacted

1532
01:26:40,290 --> 01:26:46,290
properly to an accusation and
unfounded accusation. Just

1533
01:26:46,290 --> 01:26:49,380
Adam Curry: a suspicion, a
hunch, merely a hunch we have

1534
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,930
there may be some waste, fraud
and abuse going

1535
01:26:51,930 --> 01:26:55,770
John C Dvorak: on. Yeah, and you
can be sure there is. So this

1536
01:26:55,770 --> 01:26:56,250
brings me

1537
01:26:56,250 --> 01:27:01,140
Adam Curry: to the big the big
announcement. It's, as we say,

1538
01:27:01,170 --> 01:27:04,770
in the lowlands, the coho is
daughter Khattak the bullet has

1539
01:27:04,770 --> 01:27:07,860
been shot through the church. I
have no idea why they say that.

1540
01:27:08,850 --> 01:27:11,280
John C Dvorak: The bullet has
been shot through the church.

1541
01:27:11,310 --> 01:27:11,520
Yeah,

1542
01:27:11,550 --> 01:27:13,890
Adam Curry: the girl who was
daughter Catholic. I have no

1543
01:27:13,890 --> 01:27:17,610
idea why this Dutch say there
must be is there any historical

1544
01:27:17,610 --> 01:27:21,150
reference to something being
shot in a church? Well,

1545
01:27:21,150 --> 01:27:26,100
John C Dvorak: that was say the
first of all the Dutch were one

1546
01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:29,910
of the biggest proponents of
Lutheranism, the looser and NISM

1547
01:27:29,970 --> 01:27:32,520
sorry, loose, they're all
Lutherans. They're the churches

1548
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:37,830
are and that was it because it
was early and the Catholics of

1549
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:42,360
course, were, were banned pretty
much. There's a couple of secret

1550
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,900
Catholic churches around and
it's possible that some booked

1551
01:27:45,900 --> 01:27:50,640
Catholic shot a shot at the
preacher or something in in a

1552
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:55,200
Lutheran church. That's my only
kind of a long shot guess I

1553
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,110
Adam Curry: just looked it up
and I can't find anything right

1554
01:27:58,110 --> 01:28:00,330
off the bat but I will have to
look that one up. So anyway, the

1555
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:04,590
bullet has been in the bullet is
through the church. And we have

1556
01:28:04,620 --> 01:28:08,700
a new incoming head honcho of
NATO just came

1557
01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:10,800
Unknown: through in Brussels
this week. A new leader is

1558
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,800
poised to take over as NATO
Secretary General is the former

1559
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,860
Dutch Prime Minister Mark Ruta,
who secured the backing of each

1560
01:28:16,890 --> 01:28:19,530
member state the only other
credible competitor was

1561
01:28:19,530 --> 01:28:23,310
Romania's President Klaus
Yohannes. He's backed out of

1562
01:28:23,310 --> 01:28:25,530
Teflon mark is his nickname

1563
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:30,420
Adam Curry: Hold on a second. I
have been following Margarita

1564
01:28:30,450 --> 01:28:35,700
for a while. I've never heard
anyone refer to him as Teflon

1565
01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:42,750
mark. I mean, maybe Crisco mark,
but Teflon Mark No. Klaus

1566
01:28:42,750 --> 01:28:46,590
Unknown: Yohannes is backed out
of Teflon that Mark is his

1567
01:28:46,590 --> 01:28:50,550
nickname in The Hague. One
biographer said the 57 year old

1568
01:28:50,550 --> 01:28:54,000
cycling format and fanatic has a
trademark is called Neverland,

1569
01:28:54,210 --> 01:28:55,080
which LK

1570
01:28:56,700 --> 01:29:01,140
Adam Curry: Miran, also
something I've never heard. And

1571
01:29:01,140 --> 01:29:06,060
I think he is referring to may
Viren, which he'll translate as

1572
01:29:06,060 --> 01:29:09,600
he's bouncing stretching along.
No, I would say it's more like

1573
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:14,610
sucking up being a slime ball.
Being a fair weather friend

1574
01:29:14,610 --> 01:29:17,730
doing whatever is popular.
That's what the translation of

1575
01:29:17,730 --> 01:29:23,310
Maven is, or as he says, Maven.
So already we've got this this,

1576
01:29:23,730 --> 01:29:25,380
that we're building up sad

1577
01:29:25,380 --> 01:29:28,200
John C Dvorak: reporting, as
usual, bad reporting, but

1578
01:29:28,230 --> 01:29:32,490
Adam Curry: they they also call
them the Trump whisperer. Oh,

1579
01:29:32,490 --> 01:29:37,050
yes, he'll be able to get Trump
this guy who was in HR at

1580
01:29:37,050 --> 01:29:42,630
Unilever somehow became prime
minister for oh my god, what was

1581
01:29:42,630 --> 01:29:45,480
he 12 years a long time forever
long time.

1582
01:29:45,630 --> 01:29:46,800
John C Dvorak: Well, that's the
whole show

1583
01:29:46,830 --> 01:29:48,390
Adam Curry: and he's worse.

1584
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,050
Unknown: On biographer said the
57 year old cycling format and

1585
01:29:52,050 --> 01:29:54,900
fanatic has a trademark is
called Neverland, which means

1586
01:29:54,900 --> 01:29:56,160
belts and cycling

1587
01:29:56,160 --> 01:30:00,210
Adam Curry: fanatic he rides a
grandma Bike to Work he's not On

1588
01:30:00,210 --> 01:30:03,720
a 10 speed with with the lycra
has

1589
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,480
Unknown: a trademark is called
me Vinod, which was bouncing,

1590
01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:10,080
stretching along, working with
whoever he needs to work with to

1591
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:14,250
govern. To rule with. This was
my router talking to the press

1592
01:30:14,430 --> 01:30:16,050
in the past 24 hours. It

1593
01:30:16,050 --> 01:30:18,660
is, of course an incredibly
interesting position. It starts

1594
01:30:18,660 --> 01:30:21,600
in three months. There is a
fantastic Secretary General at

1595
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,870
the moment. But let me not give
the impression that I am going

1596
01:30:24,870 --> 01:30:27,000
to do something different from
Jens Stoltenberg.

1597
01:30:27,060 --> 01:30:30,930
We also know about my router. He
likes his routine. According to

1598
01:30:30,930 --> 01:30:35,280
his biographer, he's always in
the same cafe on a Saturday in

1599
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,950
the Netherlands something that I
think we'll quickly change with

1600
01:30:37,950 --> 01:30:42,720
security personnel on advice and
also that he loves you too. And

1601
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:43,800
he loves you too.

1602
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,540
Adam Curry: That's what he loves
you to the band you to

1603
01:30:49,620 --> 01:30:51,390
John C Dvorak: you to the band.
Yes,

1604
01:30:51,420 --> 01:30:53,730
Adam Curry: he loves you to the
band. Yes.

1605
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:55,620
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's,
that's insightful. So

1606
01:30:55,620 --> 01:30:58,050
Adam Curry: this is like the
Tiger Beat. biog. What

1607
01:30:58,050 --> 01:31:00,690
John C Dvorak: is the point of
taking some guy like that and,

1608
01:31:01,110 --> 01:31:04,380
and making the head making him
the head of NATO because

1609
01:31:04,380 --> 01:31:08,100
Adam Curry: he'll do whatever
they tell him to who's they? Oh,

1610
01:31:08,130 --> 01:31:12,450
the military industrial complex,
of course. Raytheon, Boeing,

1611
01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:17,250
whoever. Of course. He'll just
do whatever. Okay,

1612
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,290
John C Dvorak: so he's just
bullshit.

1613
01:31:19,350 --> 01:31:23,280
Adam Curry: He's always been
bullcrap. Always. He's been he.

1614
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:30,450
He locked down the whole
population during COVID No, he's

1615
01:31:30,450 --> 01:31:34,740
not. He is not seen as any kind
of strong personality. He's

1616
01:31:34,740 --> 01:31:44,490
wimpy slimpar wristed weird. I
mean, he rides his bike to work.

1617
01:31:45,630 --> 01:31:51,360
Okay, how Dutch have you? And
he's a made Maven. Maven. Which

1618
01:31:51,390 --> 01:31:55,770
boy bounces along No. He'll do
whatever is popular whatever

1619
01:31:55,770 --> 01:31:59,760
whatever he's being told to do.
So this just take it from me.

1620
01:31:59,970 --> 01:32:02,970
This guy is not a strong leader
in NATO

1621
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,330
John C Dvorak: interests
Interesting. Yeah, well your

1622
01:32:09,330 --> 01:32:12,570
analysis is probably is better
than anything you're gonna hear

1623
01:32:12,570 --> 01:32:14,100
elsewhere. So there you have

1624
01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:16,080
Adam Curry: it. The troll room
has some other words for him.

1625
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,110
Yes, you're correct that too.
And with that, I'd like to thank

1626
01:32:19,110 --> 01:32:21,030
you for your courage saying the
morning to you the man who put

1627
01:32:21,030 --> 01:32:23,610
the sea in the Cheeto dust say
hello to my friend on the other

1628
01:32:23,610 --> 01:32:25,440
end the one and only Mr. Jobs

1629
01:32:29,220 --> 01:32:30,870
John C Dvorak: in the morning,
you Mr. Adam curry in the

1630
01:32:30,870 --> 01:32:33,750
morning all the cheese does
blitz on the ground feed near

1631
01:32:33,750 --> 01:32:36,270
subs in the one Diems and nights
out there in the morning

1632
01:32:36,270 --> 01:32:41,820
Adam Curry: to the trolls and
the troll room. Let me count we

1633
01:32:41,820 --> 01:32:45,570
did better than Father's Day
because we had a low low troll

1634
01:32:45,570 --> 01:32:52,950
count 1618 On the last the last
Sunday we have 1863 So we're

1635
01:32:52,950 --> 01:32:56,100
back up a little bit didn't do
much for the donations just the

1636
01:32:56,100 --> 01:33:00,360
sheer number of donations the
actual the number the the amount

1637
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:04,260
of donation just low. I mean,
people are it's summer I guess

1638
01:33:04,290 --> 01:33:07,740
we've hit the summer people are
too hot, too hot, they're

1639
01:33:07,740 --> 01:33:11,460
melting. They can't do anything
else. You throw out a double A

1640
01:33:11,460 --> 01:33:15,150
double sad puppy to no avail.
And what are you going to do

1641
01:33:15,150 --> 01:33:18,390
next? You just gonna just gonna
kill a seal a baby seal.

1642
01:33:18,660 --> 01:33:21,810
John C Dvorak: You're gonna kill
a seal the little baby seal just

1643
01:33:21,810 --> 01:33:28,050
Adam Curry: club it to death as
horrible. And I need to

1644
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:34,830
apologize. Because somehow
completely forgot to thank the

1645
01:33:34,830 --> 01:33:41,520
artists for episode 1669 Because
you know as a value for value

1646
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:45,120
podcast. There's many ways that
people can help us and of course

1647
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:50,160
we appreciate our our artists in
to an incredible degree because

1648
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,160
they're always they're creating
stuff on the fly. And it was

1649
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:57,240
time to kneel of all people for
me to forget Taunton Neil, who

1650
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,150
did the Father's Day art, which
was a nice little piece, it was

1651
01:34:00,150 --> 01:34:05,220
a can. And it was the no Adyen
dad beer. It was a little little

1652
01:34:05,220 --> 01:34:08,940
small, but we kind of went with
it for this for the best dad in

1653
01:34:08,940 --> 01:34:11,640
the universe. Curry Dvorak and
then really small letters. If

1654
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,490
you blew it up, it says, What's
that in your mouth? I think that

1655
01:34:14,490 --> 01:34:18,750
kind of clinched it for us. Sick
as we are. Like, yeah, that's a

1656
01:34:18,750 --> 01:34:19,530
good joke.

1657
01:34:21,390 --> 01:34:22,440
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was
cute. Yeah.

1658
01:34:24,870 --> 01:34:31,560
Adam Curry: For the last episode
1670 Yeah, we brought in. I

1659
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:34,770
mean, I'm, I'm not always you
were actually on the Father's

1660
01:34:34,770 --> 01:34:39,000
Day episode. You were kind of
vying for this cheesecake lady,

1661
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,880
which I protested. I'm like,
Yeah, you

1662
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:42,960
John C Dvorak: hate women. No, I

1663
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:47,490
Adam Curry: don't. Like why does
Father's Day have to mean that

1664
01:34:47,490 --> 01:34:51,360
cheese cake lady. That's I mean,
some fathers are not likes.

1665
01:34:51,660 --> 01:34:54,000
That's what you like. That's not
what

1666
01:34:54,450 --> 01:34:56,700
John C Dvorak: I just like to
piece I thought it was good and

1667
01:34:56,940 --> 01:34:58,770
you hate comic strip blogger.

1668
01:35:00,510 --> 01:35:04,440
Adam Curry: Well, no I don't.
I've been friends with him

1669
01:35:04,440 --> 01:35:06,480
longer than I've been friends
with you same type of

1670
01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:11,910
friendship. Know for 16 seven he
titled The Maloney Francisco

1671
01:35:11,910 --> 01:35:15,930
Scaramanga nailed it with the
and this was a cheesecake but it

1672
01:35:15,930 --> 01:35:20,580
had cheap fakes on her t shirt.
It had double entendre. It had a

1673
01:35:20,580 --> 01:35:26,310
lot going for it and and it was
just perfect. Perfect. Wouldn't

1674
01:35:26,310 --> 01:35:26,820
you say?

1675
01:35:27,570 --> 01:35:30,450
John C Dvorak: I liked it. Yeah.
We had that. There was another

1676
01:35:30,450 --> 01:35:36,120
one that we were arguing about.
The Father's Day one is from the

1677
01:35:36,300 --> 01:35:40,590
previous show, or when I guess
it was that show. Cheap

1678
01:35:40,590 --> 01:35:44,640
Adam Curry: fakes. Oh, the
Darren O'Neill is that that we

1679
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:48,600
were looking at Darren O'Neal's.
Cheap fakes 33 cents, which had

1680
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:53,520
to Zareen zerene behind the
lemonade stand. Oh, yes.

1681
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,500
John C Dvorak: I liked this
piece because I do is a

1682
01:35:55,530 --> 01:35:58,800
throwback to as a peanuts.
Reference, of course with the

1683
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:04,410
free advice booth through the
Lucy was back. Would you be back

1684
01:36:04,410 --> 01:36:10,020
there with Charlie Brown? Yeah.
I liked it. The scar manga

1685
01:36:10,020 --> 01:36:15,000
pieces it probably better in
many ways. But the Darren

1686
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:18,030
O'Neill piece was good and you
criticize it because you said

1687
01:36:18,060 --> 01:36:22,050
Darren O'Neal's always got this
does throw away stuff

1688
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,960
Adam Curry: I said Darren no
deal. Oh no, I didn't criticize

1689
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,260
it. I said the cheap fakes was
better. You didn't want to

1690
01:36:28,260 --> 01:36:31,080
choose it because you hate scare
manga. That's what was going on.

1691
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,290
You like that guy? He's an
aihole. I remember No,

1692
01:36:34,290 --> 01:36:36,750
John C Dvorak: I never said
that. I would say Oh, but you

1693
01:36:36,750 --> 01:36:42,720
did remind me that scared of
manga did turn on the show you

1694
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,770
in particular he's a turncoat.
He turned on the show so they

1695
01:36:46,770 --> 01:36:54,090
were a bunch of jerks. Repair
reason and and that that got me

1696
01:36:54,090 --> 01:36:57,360
to quit the entire that dead
social network. They said

1697
01:36:58,110 --> 01:37:00,360
Adam Curry: the website just
call it the website.

1698
01:37:01,530 --> 01:37:05,760
John C Dvorak: And that was the
end of that. So there was some

1699
01:37:05,820 --> 01:37:09,420
there was some thought there
man, you know, Darren O'Neal

1700
01:37:09,420 --> 01:37:10,080
pick because

1701
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:12,120
Adam Curry: Dan O'Neill
listening want to be picked? He

1702
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:14,190
just wants us to talk about him.
Yes, I

1703
01:37:14,190 --> 01:37:17,190
John C Dvorak: think you're
right. I think he's a what is it

1704
01:37:17,190 --> 01:37:19,980
called when your attention?
Attention whore?

1705
01:37:20,220 --> 01:37:24,450
Adam Curry: There you go. That's
it. Well, I'll disc jockeys are,

1706
01:37:24,930 --> 01:37:25,980
I guess to a degree,

1707
01:37:26,220 --> 01:37:27,180
John C Dvorak: I think you're
right.

1708
01:37:27,570 --> 01:37:30,600
Adam Curry: Thank you,
Francisco. Scaramanga thank you

1709
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:34,200
to all the artists who are
always there trying to try to

1710
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,420
beat us to the punch, trying to
get something funny, trying to

1711
01:37:36,420 --> 01:37:39,930
get something in there that will
like usually based upon the live

1712
01:37:39,930 --> 01:37:43,110
content of the show is not easy
what they do. And we just

1713
01:37:43,110 --> 01:37:45,960
provide all the feedback,
because you'll never get that in

1714
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:50,880
a professional work situation.
By the way you can, you can

1715
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:54,060
become one of the trolls by
going to troll room.io. Now

1716
01:37:54,060 --> 01:37:56,850
forwarding to the new no agenda
dot stream, which is just

1717
01:37:56,850 --> 01:38:00,420
dynamite, you can become a
troll, you can join as a troll

1718
01:38:00,420 --> 01:38:02,910
or get one of those montem
podcast apps at podcast

1719
01:38:02,910 --> 01:38:06,630
apps.com. And you'll get
notified when we go live, you'll

1720
01:38:06,630 --> 01:38:10,140
get notified within 90 seconds
of us publishing the show. It's

1721
01:38:10,170 --> 01:38:15,030
a bonanza, it's so cool. So
we've we've already mentioned it

1722
01:38:15,030 --> 01:38:17,580
that we're gonna have to resort
to clubbing baby seals. But we

1723
01:38:17,580 --> 01:38:20,550
do have some people to think,
who came in as executive and

1724
01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:23,670
Associate Executive producers.
Now it's important to understand

1725
01:38:23,670 --> 01:38:26,730
that the value for value model
works when you just send

1726
01:38:26,730 --> 01:38:30,390
something back to the show,
depending on how much value it

1727
01:38:30,390 --> 01:38:35,820
means to you. And that depends
on your situation. $5 could be a

1728
01:38:35,820 --> 01:38:39,060
lot for you, you send us that
it's what you feel the show is

1729
01:38:39,060 --> 01:38:43,290
worth is what you have to spare.
We appreciate it. Now, of course

1730
01:38:43,290 --> 01:38:46,800
there are people who can't make
arts can't run meetups or

1731
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:50,070
servers, etc. But they like
being executive and Associate

1732
01:38:50,070 --> 01:38:52,560
Executive producers and they
show that with their pocketbook

1733
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:56,070
and they do that by going to no
agenda donations.com And we kick

1734
01:38:56,070 --> 01:39:00,660
it off with Jim Coleman. Who is
comes in from Harlem in the

1735
01:39:00,660 --> 01:39:06,720
Netherlands with 343 75 which
I'm going to presume as a 333

1736
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:12,630
dot 33 with some fees added.
Appreciate that. And he says to

1737
01:39:12,630 --> 01:39:20,880
sad puppies JCD super pathetic.
Well done. Perfect. Thank you

1738
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,310
very much, Jim. You understand
how it works?

1739
01:39:23,610 --> 01:39:27,960
John C Dvorak: Yeah, one guy?
Yep. That's boy we know guys,

1740
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:34,260
this. Abelson Don Santos Oh dos
Santos dos Santos in Luanda.

1741
01:39:35,310 --> 01:39:44,550
Luanda, Angola. We have Angola
Angola, a Oh Angola. Wow. 34375

1742
01:39:44,550 --> 01:39:47,130
great to hear from you always
appreciate your deconstruction

1743
01:39:47,130 --> 01:39:54,960
in the media and calling out
ops. Let's we do that. Abelson

1744
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:58,980
Deus, dos dos Santos and Luanda.

1745
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:03,480
Adam Curry: We have Maryann
Schneeberger from Cary, North

1746
01:40:03,480 --> 01:40:07,920
Carolina to 22 Dots 63. And it's
a switcheroo. She says in the

1747
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,680
morning gentlemen, in addition
to last week's contribution,

1748
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:16,860
please accept our total donation
of 333 dot 33 and or in honor of

1749
01:40:16,860 --> 01:40:21,300
our very own executive producer
and keeper of sanity. Jim

1750
01:40:21,300 --> 01:40:26,250
Schneeberger special birthday on
Saturday, June 22. So that was

1751
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:31,560
yesterday. And we have the
switcheroo noted as requested.

1752
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:35,220
He is the troll of the
neighborhood. And we his family

1753
01:40:35,220 --> 01:40:39,360
know how important it is to
listen to live to the best

1754
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podcast in the universe. Goat
karma and Reverend owl would be

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would make a delightful addition
to all the other noises going on

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in his head. Thank you for all
the hard work you do in Jesus

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name, his loving and extended
family of Human Resources ESP I

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01:41:00,450 --> 01:41:02,940
see. You've got

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01:41:06,390 --> 01:41:09,990
John C Dvorak: LUCA in Walla
Walla, Washington. One of the

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01:41:09,990 --> 01:41:15,210
great wine growing areas of the
world ITM chaps, John posts a

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pair of puppies in the
newsletter I better donate in

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orange Django has some double
karma please help karma the Yak

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variety and a TPP jobs karma sir
Luca of this South East jobs

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jobs jobs jobs. Jobs Go bless
you. Give more of that when

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there's more of that coming.

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Adam Curry: Oh, man, I gotta say
I my sinuses are so messed up.

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01:41:51,480 --> 01:41:54,840
Something happened on the plane.
I could barely sleep last bless

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01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:56,220
you. I've been Yeah,

1769
01:41:56,220 --> 01:41:59,100
John C Dvorak: you you were on a
plane for

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01:41:59,310 --> 01:42:02,790
Adam Curry: 12 hours or whatever
is horrible, like barely slept.

1771
01:42:03,090 --> 01:42:07,320
CHRIS BAILEY Elrod, Alabama to
20 Sudha 22, Associate Executive

1772
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:10,530
Producer with a row of ducks.
Switcheroo. I dedicate this row

1773
01:42:10,530 --> 01:42:14,070
of ducks to my wife Kim. All
right. All right. Put Kim in

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01:42:14,070 --> 01:42:18,060
there. Change that right away
Kim on her birthday today. June

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01:42:18,060 --> 01:42:26,580
23 Please dee doo dee doo Can I
get a biscuit for a birthday and

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01:42:26,580 --> 01:42:29,160
all the Sharpen you can bear
thank you both for all you do

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01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:31,920
Sir Christopher Knight of the
sipsey valid they always

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01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,320
Unknown: give me a biscuit on my
birthday was heated again.

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01:42:37,110 --> 01:42:43,110
John C Dvorak: Come on now. ESP.
I see T All right. Dame Anne

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with an E in Largo Florida. tu
tu tu tu tu she sent a note and

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a check. And then she may be one
of our next Linda Lou packin Oh,

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no agenda. ITM boys 222 times
time to donate to the best

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podcast in the universe. Thank
you for all your grueling hard

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01:43:05,820 --> 01:43:10,290
work professionalism, humor and
creativity. We all need a great

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night's sleep to keep healthy
and sane in this crazy world.

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remedy in the world. Tranquil
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Adam Curry: I needed that for
last night where were you?

1790
01:43:27,030 --> 01:43:33,210
John C Dvorak: She sent me a
bottle to order go to www NUUR i

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A Nomura and you you are I can
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and free shipping. But she said
she sent you a bottle I

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Adam Curry: haven't received the
bottle maybe maybe I haven't

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01:43:43,740 --> 01:43:46,020
been to the PIO box off to go
treat

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01:43:46,020 --> 01:43:50,790
John C Dvorak: dreams and love
is lit. Dame and with an AKA N

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done F Ph. D. C C H S

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Adam Curry: I can't wait to try
it because she got a lot of

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impressive letters after her
name.

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01:43:58,740 --> 01:44:02,100
John C Dvorak: Yes she does.
She's a holistic herbal and

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homeopathic medicine person

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Adam Curry: tranquil, tranquil.
Oh, I get it tranquil eyes

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01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:11,850
tranquilize. Now I get it the
tranquil lines tranquilizes you

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01:44:11,910 --> 01:44:12,870
nice kids

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01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:14,880
John C Dvorak: a nice little
signature that we should.

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01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:19,470
Adam Curry: Matthew B. Lambert
is from Fuquay Varina North

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01:44:19,470 --> 01:44:23,880
Carolina to 1060. No note that I
can see so we get a double up

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01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:25,890
karma there. You've got

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01:44:28,020 --> 01:44:31,140
John C Dvorak: karma. Eli, the
coffee guy in Bensenville

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Illinois 206 23. In life, we'd
face challenges in the crucible

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01:44:35,700 --> 01:44:38,790
of existence adversary forges us
to be stronger and more

1811
01:44:38,790 --> 01:44:42,120
resilient. Any setback is merely
an opportunity yet to be

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01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,850
realized. Although we can't
control conditions on the

1813
01:44:44,850 --> 01:44:49,320
ground. Free will gives us
control over how will you react

1814
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,980
in someone times it's good to
just take a step back, relax and

1815
01:44:52,980 --> 01:44:56,280
enjoy a cup of coffee. In those
moments. It's hard not to be

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01:44:56,280 --> 01:45:00,660
amazed at our existence in this
spinning ball of dirt. curling

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through the cosmos having good
coffee definitely helps in the

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cars go visit get go white
coffee roasters.com and code it

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and for 20% off your order stay
caffeinated Eli the coffee guy

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I'll jump

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01:45:12,810 --> 01:45:15,960
Adam Curry: over the next one
and do sir bit bag of balls

1822
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:19,020
who's in Stokes Dale North
Carolina her bag of balls or bag

1823
01:45:19,020 --> 01:45:22,710
of balls ITM gents when I was
knighted as Sir bag of balls I

1824
01:45:22,710 --> 01:45:25,740
discovered a co worker my wife
listen to the show, so I wanted

1825
01:45:25,740 --> 01:45:29,610
to call them out James. You know
what you are please send him a

1826
01:45:29,610 --> 01:45:31,530
douche bag to get them on the
right track.

1827
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,970
John C Dvorak: Sure bag of balls
jazz in the loop Atkins up in

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Linda Lou, Duchess of jobs and
writer of resumes. Let's have a

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meeting.

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01:45:58,230 --> 01:46:00,660
Adam Curry: It's all caps that
you got to pay that off, man.

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01:46:01,410 --> 01:46:02,010
Let's

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01:46:02,010 --> 01:46:04,770
John C Dvorak: have a meeting
jobs,

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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs. Carla

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01:46:11,910 --> 01:46:12,510
meeting.

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01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,040
John C Dvorak: And that's it.
That's our group of well wishers

1840
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,950
and Executive Associate
Executive producers for show

1841
01:46:19,950 --> 01:46:24,600
1671 shortlist. But I think it's
even shorter coming up in the

1842
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,190
second half. Yeah, it's

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01:46:26,190 --> 01:46:28,260
Adam Curry: gonna be pretty
short. Thank you. Of course, we

1844
01:46:28,260 --> 01:46:31,110
always read the notes for our
Associate Executive Producers

1845
01:46:31,110 --> 01:46:34,170
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an executive producer, we read

1846
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those notes as well. And we
don't read anything under 50 For

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usually reasons of anonymity,
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sustaining donor. That means you
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subscription or you determine it
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want you stop it when you want
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1851
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you want it to be, we recommend
doing it per show, you could do

1852
01:46:53,130 --> 01:46:56,340
it per week, per month, whatever
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1853
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1854
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to us. It's the value for value
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1855
01:47:04,110 --> 01:47:06,450
and of course the executive and
Associate Executive producers,

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01:47:06,450 --> 01:47:11,340
your titles are the real deal.
They are valid for the rest of

1857
01:47:11,340 --> 01:47:13,770
your life. You can use them
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01:47:13,770 --> 01:47:18,030
recognized such as LinkedIn
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1861
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are listed on imdb.com You could
be one of them as well. And

1862
01:47:28,050 --> 01:47:31,320
thank you for producing 1671 Our

1863
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:35,760
Unknown: formula is this we go
out we get people in the mouth

1864
01:47:48,870 --> 01:47:51,180
Adam Curry: discovered I can
find this job while applying but

1865
01:47:51,180 --> 01:47:56,850
as that's you

1866
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:05,970
John C Dvorak: know, so did you
see Andrew Cuomo on Bill Maher?

1867
01:48:07,110 --> 01:48:07,680
No,

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01:48:08,100 --> 01:48:09,960
Adam Curry: no, I did not.

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01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,230
John C Dvorak: I sitting here I
dodged the bullet. Clearly you

1870
01:48:13,230 --> 01:48:16,380
dodged the bullet. So he's
sitting there next to kissing

1871
01:48:16,380 --> 01:48:19,590
girl. I don't know why they go
the cry baby The Cry Baby Cry

1872
01:48:19,590 --> 01:48:25,050
Baby. And and they do something
they were bumo. Obviously he's

1873
01:48:25,050 --> 01:48:29,310
decided to throw the Democratic
Party under the bus. And I think

1874
01:48:29,310 --> 01:48:32,220
is worth playing. It says oh,
it's got nothing to do with any

1875
01:48:32,220 --> 01:48:37,110
more clips. But this was to me a
it's been it was posted quite a

1876
01:48:37,110 --> 01:48:40,890
bit. I just took the regular
posting of it and play it here.

1877
01:48:41,070 --> 01:48:41,220
The

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01:48:41,220 --> 01:48:46,260
Adam Curry: trial in New York.
The one he got convicted for was

1879
01:48:46,260 --> 01:48:49,020
the greatest fundraising
bonanza. Yes, he is. Now he was

1880
01:48:49,020 --> 01:48:52,350
blagging behind Biden. And now
he's pulled quite a bit ahead.

1881
01:48:52,500 --> 01:48:57,180
That trial was the greatest
reason people to send their

1882
01:48:57,180 --> 01:49:02,760
checks for 510 25, whatever,
dollars to Donald Trump. So I

1883
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,670
was always winning on the one in
New York, the hush money trial,

1884
01:49:05,670 --> 01:49:07,770
I don't think they should have
brought that one. It was just

1885
01:49:07,770 --> 01:49:10,980
always gonna look like a sex
case. And people were always

1886
01:49:10,980 --> 01:49:13,380
just going to look at it that
way. So

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Unknown: in that case, the
Attorney General's case in New

1888
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:19,380
York, frankly, should have never
been brought. And if his name

1889
01:49:19,380 --> 01:49:22,440
was not Donald Trump, and if he
wasn't running for president,

1890
01:49:22,620 --> 01:49:25,260
from the former Ag in New York,
I'm telling you that case would

1891
01:49:25,260 --> 01:49:28,380
have never been brought. And
that's what is offensive to

1892
01:49:28,380 --> 01:49:33,510
people. And it should be because
if there's anything left it's

1893
01:49:33,510 --> 01:49:34,800
belief in the justice system.

1894
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:38,520
Adam Curry: Why is he doing
that?

1895
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:43,500
John C Dvorak: I wonder myself.
I saw it was like he threw the

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01:49:43,500 --> 01:49:46,710
whole party under the bus. I
think it's because he never got

1897
01:49:46,710 --> 01:49:51,120
the support. He expected to stay
as governor. And he's worked.

1898
01:49:51,150 --> 01:49:55,950
He's worked. And now he's a
critic. So either that as part

1899
01:49:55,950 --> 01:49:59,010
of our part of the giant scheme
to get make sure Trump gets in

1900
01:49:59,040 --> 01:49:59,970
well, I'm thinking

1901
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,320
Adam Curry: that but if you look
at our the official lawyer of

1902
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:08,850
the show, Rob, he always sends
me an updated schedule of all of

1903
01:50:08,850 --> 01:50:11,310
the lawsuits that Trump is
involved in. How many can you

1904
01:50:11,310 --> 01:50:11,760
name?

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01:50:13,259 --> 01:50:15,209
John C Dvorak: I can only name
three or four. Yeah, there's

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01:50:15,210 --> 01:50:19,860
Adam Curry: like nine. Yeah. So
we have the hush money case in

1907
01:50:19,860 --> 01:50:24,870
New York. Right. Where that's, I
guess we're still waiting

1908
01:50:24,870 --> 01:50:29,130
sentencing. We have the civil
fraud. The New York Trump and

1909
01:50:29,130 --> 01:50:33,330
others falsely inflated property
values to obtain loans. We have

1910
01:50:33,330 --> 01:50:37,890
the Dominion. Case Dominion
claims it was defamed when

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01:50:37,890 --> 01:50:41,550
Trump's campaign allegedly made
false accusations that a

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01:50:41,550 --> 01:50:44,430
Dominion executive help rig the
2020 election that's in

1913
01:50:44,430 --> 01:50:49,500
Colorado, Georgia state criminal
trial Trump and 13 others

1914
01:50:49,530 --> 01:50:52,860
allegedly meddled in Georgia's
2020 presidential election.

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That's the funny Willis case.
January 6. Immunity this is in

1916
01:50:56,670 --> 01:51:01,650
the DC district. Of course, the
DC Circuit perhaps the SCOTUS

1917
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,530
federal criminal, Trump
allegedly incited an

1918
01:51:04,530 --> 01:51:07,650
insurrection on January 6, which
allegedly had the effect of

1919
01:51:07,650 --> 01:51:10,440
obstructing official government
proceedings and defrauded the

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01:51:10,440 --> 01:51:13,920
United States and other things.
That's Jack Smith, then we have

1921
01:51:13,950 --> 01:51:16,440
what I think is interesting.
This is not necessarily

1922
01:51:16,440 --> 01:51:21,210
involving Trump, but this is
also in DC. There's a separate

1923
01:51:21,210 --> 01:51:24,690
January 6 Defendant, Joseph
Fisher, who was charged with

1924
01:51:24,690 --> 01:51:29,190
assault and he's arguing that
DOJ can't use Sarbanes Oxley to

1925
01:51:29,190 --> 01:51:34,080
prosecute him, which is
phenomenal that somehow they're

1926
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:40,830
they're trying to convict him of
violating Sarbanes Oxley, which

1927
01:51:40,830 --> 01:51:45,570
I'm not quite sure how that
works. South. Then we have the

1928
01:51:45,570 --> 01:51:50,250
Southern District, Florida, the
classified documents mishandling

1929
01:51:50,490 --> 01:51:54,840
Michigan, Michigan, he filed
charges against 15 Republican

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01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:58,080
electors for allegedly trying to
overturn the 2020 election.

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Trump is not amongst the 15. But
of course it has to do with him,

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01:52:01,140 --> 01:52:06,120
Arizona. That's the 18
Republicans Giuliani Mark

1933
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:11,790
Meadows. We have the jean
Carroll defamation cases, two of

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01:52:11,790 --> 01:52:14,190
them. I mean, this is it's, it's
amazing.

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01:52:15,210 --> 01:52:17,370
John C Dvorak: What they've done
all after he said he's gonna run

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01:52:17,370 --> 01:52:21,360
for president. Yes. That's what
that's what makes everyone came

1937
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:24,300
after he made the you know,
yeah, some within three days.

1938
01:52:24,300 --> 01:52:24,480
That's

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01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:25,710
Adam Curry: what makes it so
cool.

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01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:30,600
John C Dvorak: Yes, well, the
only thing I think they

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01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:32,610
accomplish what they wanted, I
don't think these cases are

1942
01:52:32,610 --> 01:52:35,130
gonna go anywhere now, because
the idea was to get him

1943
01:52:35,130 --> 01:52:38,280
convicted of something. And it's
been discussed and discussed,

1944
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:42,780
and they say that people on the
inside that are at the, at the

1945
01:52:42,780 --> 01:52:46,440
hideout where Biden's being
prepped and jacked

1946
01:52:46,440 --> 01:52:48,990
Adam Curry: up, it's called Camp
Camp David, Camp

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01:52:48,990 --> 01:52:51,930
John C Dvorak: David, you but
it's in the basement is so he

1948
01:52:51,930 --> 01:52:57,690
feels comfortable. And so the
idea is he's going to throw out

1949
01:52:57,690 --> 01:53:01,620
the term convicted felon, which
is all they really wanted to get

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01:53:01,620 --> 01:53:04,320
out of this all these cases,
somebody because the rest of

1951
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:06,600
these have been put off now that
these cases are not going to

1952
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,600
come to fruition. But they got
what they wanted, which is

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01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:14,670
convicted felon before the
sentencing. And before all this,

1954
01:53:14,790 --> 01:53:18,510
anything that can reverse the
decision can go into play

1955
01:53:18,510 --> 01:53:20,880
because this is next Thursday,
you're going to have the debate,

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01:53:21,180 --> 01:53:27,150
and Biden is going to drop the
convicted felon bomb at the

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01:53:27,150 --> 01:53:27,750
debate,

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01:53:27,990 --> 01:53:29,520
Adam Curry: Trump will be ready
for that.

1959
01:53:31,470 --> 01:53:33,510
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
interesting to see what what

1960
01:53:33,540 --> 01:53:37,380
what ready means that regard? I
don't know. They'll be ready.

1961
01:53:37,380 --> 01:53:38,310
But what you're gonna say

1962
01:53:38,340 --> 01:53:41,310
Adam Curry: I predict huge
numbers on that CNN broadcast.

1963
01:53:41,370 --> 01:53:44,700
And that is going to break all
records. And it's it's kind of

1964
01:53:44,700 --> 01:53:47,370
interesting, because it's in a
way it's a throwback to the 60s.

1965
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I think the way they're running
it is very similar to the

1966
01:53:51,690 --> 01:53:56,940
Kennedy Nixon debate, you know,
just a studio no audience to

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01:53:56,940 --> 01:54:00,480
answer question, then you answer
the question very, quote

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01:54:00,480 --> 01:54:01,950
unquote, civilized.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah. Right. So,
so I was looking into Jake

1970
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Tapper's background spook when
you because he's going to be one

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of the two hosts him and Dana
Bash. Dana

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Adam Curry: Bash was literally
married to a spook.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, yes,
exactly. So if you if you read,

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I think it's an even in his
Wikipedia. Jake Tapper takes

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credit. Do you know the first
CNN debate with Hillary and

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Trump and Trump back in
2016 2015 2016? Era? There was

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one of the debates was at CNN.
Yeah. And because whoever was

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01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:42,960
really interested in these in
this debate

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01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,930
Adam Curry: where they gave
Hillary the the questions, Donna

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01:54:45,930 --> 01:54:46,710
Brazil yet

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John C Dvorak: right. The dawn
of Brazil gave her the credit,

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but the point is, is that it got
the highest rating CNN ever got.

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Yeah. And they credited because
of the presence of Jake Tapper.

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Really? Yeah.

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Adam Curry: Well, I if I I
recall correctly one of our

1986
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:10,350
producers was in catering and
catered the assistant CIA CIA

1987
01:55:10,350 --> 01:55:14,280
directors birthday if something
like It was either that or FBI

1988
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and Jake Tapper was there just
working the room. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, of course. That's sources
say you know, sources. So

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John C Dvorak: this will be a
huge blockbuster even though ABC

1991
01:55:25,740 --> 01:55:29,010
is gonna also carry it. But
it'll be big numbers for CNN,

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even though it's going to be
watered down because ABC is also

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going to do a simulcast. I don't
know how they got that to

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happen. But you know, they
happened and then you'll be

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stuck because a chopper Yeah,
everyone wants to see him.

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Adam Curry: Wow. tappers, the
man. He's the man of the hour.

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He's the man about town. There's
two incidents with Southwest

1998
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that I just need to handle for a
second here.

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01:55:53,850 --> 01:55:56,670
Unknown: The FAA is
investigating another concerning

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01:55:56,670 --> 01:56:00,300
incident on a Southwest Airlines
flight after a plane appear to

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01:56:00,300 --> 01:56:03,900
come dangerously close to homes
near Oklahoma City. For some

2002
01:56:03,900 --> 01:56:07,380
reason, they blew through and
assigned altitude and continued

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and get very close to the
ground.

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The Boeing 737 Which took off
from Las Vegas Tuesday night was

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descending into Oklahoma City's
airport just after midnight,

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when it dropped as low as 525
feet over the city of Yukon

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01:56:22,350 --> 01:56:26,460
passing just over a high school
a low altitude alarm alerted air

2008
01:56:26,460 --> 01:56:28,710
traffic control which contacted
the cockpit

2009
01:56:32,790 --> 01:56:36,420
air traffic controller in the
tower saved the day by telling

2010
01:56:36,420 --> 01:56:37,710
them check your altitude.

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01:56:38,130 --> 01:56:40,050
Adam Curry: This is what I find
so interest this couple of

2012
01:56:40,050 --> 01:56:44,610
things in this report and was
very similar everywhere. So the

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the flight goes to low clearly
because they're still on their

2014
01:56:49,830 --> 01:56:53,430
approach. And there they are
low. And the tower says hey, we

2015
01:56:53,430 --> 01:56:57,270
got a low altitude warning you
guys okay? He didn't say check

2016
01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:59,970
your altimeter? No, he didn't
say they just you guys. Okay,

2017
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everything all right, to which
they replied, Yeah, we're good.

2018
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And then they they increase
their altitude.

2019
01:57:10,410 --> 01:57:13,020
Unknown: The air traffic
controller in the tower, save

2020
01:57:13,020 --> 01:57:15,990
the day by telling them check
your altitude, the plane

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01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:19,440
landed safely. But local
residents flooded social media

2022
01:57:19,470 --> 01:57:22,590
saying they thought the plane
was going to hit their homes. It

2023
01:57:22,590 --> 01:57:25,860
was night it was late. Perhaps
the crew was tired. They were

2024
01:57:25,860 --> 01:57:29,130
descending over the prairie. So
there was no lights or no visual

2025
01:57:29,130 --> 01:57:31,890
reference. It was essentially
descending over a black hole.

2026
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:32,430
But this

2027
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:35,970
Adam Curry: I don't know who
this Jumoke is who's reporting

2028
01:57:35,970 --> 01:57:40,710
on this. But you're looking at
your altimeter you're looking at

2029
01:57:40,770 --> 01:57:43,950
at the height of your aircraft,
you're not looking out into the

2030
01:57:43,950 --> 01:57:47,700
black hole. Where are we? I
could use anything, Bob, I don't

2031
01:57:47,700 --> 01:57:52,290
know. You see. I mean, the only
thing I can imagine happened

2032
01:57:52,290 --> 01:57:56,220
here is they didn't set their
their pressure altitude known as

2033
01:57:56,220 --> 01:57:59,910
the Q and H which gives you the
correct altitude reading based

2034
01:57:59,910 --> 01:58:04,080
upon the barometric pressure.
Maybe that happened. Or maybe

2035
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,900
they're just really
inexperienced. Either way this

2036
01:58:06,900 --> 01:58:11,310
should not have happened. But at
the EI baby, that's possible.

2037
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:15,660
And, and here's this kind of
goes into the neck of the next

2038
01:58:15,660 --> 01:58:20,070
story, which is the part of this
report for you know, whenever I

2039
01:58:20,070 --> 01:58:25,140
fly, when I fly the Cirrus from
the flight school I if I go to

2040
01:58:25,140 --> 01:58:28,320
Dallas with Tina, who is not
doesn't really love flying in

2041
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:31,860
this little plane. But I always
take the instructor because I'm

2042
01:58:31,890 --> 01:58:35,880
going to be 60 in September. I'm
not I'm not fast, I don't fly

2043
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:39,210
enough that I can especially
Dallas area where there's four

2044
01:58:39,210 --> 01:58:43,500
airports is very busy. And if
you're on the radio you go then

2045
01:58:43,500 --> 01:58:46,860
the next thing the air traffic
control does, Okay, you go fly

2046
01:58:46,860 --> 01:58:49,380
out 20 minutes that way, we'll
call you back later when you

2047
01:58:49,380 --> 01:58:53,520
think you're ready to come in.
So, but these are 25 to 28 year

2048
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:58,560
olds, and I fly what maybe twice
a year, maybe three times a year

2049
01:58:58,590 --> 01:59:03,150
to go somewhere. It's always a
new instructor because they are

2050
01:59:03,150 --> 01:59:06,360
getting they're getting zapped
up right away straight into the

2051
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:11,100
airlines. A lot of them female
and they're low hours they've

2052
01:59:11,100 --> 01:59:17,100
got him 700 to maybe 1000 hours
so they get another 500 Then you

2053
01:59:17,100 --> 01:59:22,410
can fly tech according to law
you can fly on you know on a jet

2054
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:26,610
on a big one of the passenger
jet but they really don't have

2055
01:59:27,390 --> 01:59:30,810
just all the experience and
whatever happened with the

2056
01:59:30,810 --> 01:59:33,720
pilots you know I think a lot of
them died laden retired lot of

2057
01:59:33,810 --> 01:59:37,500
got out of the business does not
necessarily I don't know about

2058
01:59:37,500 --> 01:59:42,150
Dei, but there's not a lot of
experiential airmen and air

2059
01:59:42,150 --> 01:59:45,210
women who are in the business
now and this is what we're

2060
01:59:45,210 --> 01:59:46,200
seeing. They were

2061
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:48,450
Unknown: given a clearance for a
visual approach. So they were

2062
01:59:48,450 --> 01:59:51,540
looking out at the lights of
Oklahoma City looking for the

2063
01:59:51,540 --> 01:59:54,600
airport, and for some reason
they missed that assigned

2064
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:57,390
altitude perhaps was distraction
in the cockpit

2065
01:59:57,450 --> 02:00:00,420
earlier this week. It was
revealed to southwest Lean from

2066
02:00:00,420 --> 02:00:04,380
Hawaii came within just 400 feet
of slamming into the ocean back

2067
02:00:04,380 --> 02:00:08,580
in April, a memo saying a newer
first officer accidentally

2068
02:00:08,580 --> 02:00:10,650
pushed forward the control
column.

2069
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:13,260
Adam Curry: This is unbelievable
to me, because they were

2070
02:00:13,260 --> 02:00:16,050
executing a go around, it was
horrible weather, there was a

2071
02:00:16,050 --> 02:00:20,280
lot of torrential rain, a lot of
airplanes, we're doing go round,

2072
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:23,340
which is hey, I don't feel good.
I don't think we should land.

2073
02:00:23,340 --> 02:00:27,300
Let's just Let's go around.
We'll try it again. And so what

2074
02:00:27,300 --> 02:00:31,800
you do then is you view push the
throttle forward, you pull back

2075
02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:34,560
on the control column,
eventually you want to put the

2076
02:00:34,770 --> 02:00:39,570
put the flaps back in the right
position. why someone would push

2077
02:00:39,570 --> 02:00:42,360
forward on the column that
person should not be in the

2078
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:46,800
cockpit. I don't know what
happened there. All I know is

2079
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:51,030
that the real good pilots who
are from Navy and Air Force

2080
02:00:51,060 --> 02:00:54,840
they're not going to airlines
that have Boeing anymore.

2081
02:00:54,840 --> 02:01:00,420
They're all going to Airbus
outfits, particularly FedEx and

2082
02:01:01,860 --> 02:01:06,150
anything else that that doesn't
have passengers and has Airbus

2083
02:01:06,150 --> 02:01:11,430
they don't want to fly Boeing
and Southwest is all Boeing so

2084
02:01:11,430 --> 02:01:15,720
that's my report. Well, that
stinks. It does stink it's not

2085
02:01:15,750 --> 02:01:17,220
it's not it's not there

2086
02:01:17,220 --> 02:01:20,640
John C Dvorak: are see five
pilots you think it by anything

2087
02:01:20,670 --> 02:01:21,120
new but they don't

2088
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:22,950
Adam Curry: want to fly that
they don't want to fly

2089
02:01:22,950 --> 02:01:23,940
southwest.

2090
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:26,610
John C Dvorak: I guess not. No.

2091
02:01:30,900 --> 02:01:33,300
Adam Curry: It's pride month,
John. Time to make fun.

2092
02:01:34,350 --> 02:01:37,350
John C Dvorak: Oh, yes, I've
been I only had my one

2093
02:01:37,410 --> 02:01:39,960
opportunity for this. I guess
you must have a few.

2094
02:01:40,020 --> 02:01:43,620
Adam Curry: I do. Yes. I got
some Chicago local news. The

2095
02:01:43,620 --> 02:01:51,240
University of Illinois has been
has received an award for their

2096
02:01:52,500 --> 02:01:58,620
let me see what is it the LGBTQ
plus health care equality high

2097
02:01:58,620 --> 02:02:03,600
performer and boy, the ladies on
the show we're all Jide it's a

2098
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:04,260
two parter.

2099
02:02:04,290 --> 02:02:06,900
Unknown: His pride month the
University of Illinois Hospital

2100
02:02:06,900 --> 02:02:09,090
and Clinics have a lot to
celebrate who I

2101
02:02:09,090 --> 02:02:13,410
have has been recognized as an
LGBTQ plus health care equality

2102
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:16,920
leader for the ninth year in a
row. That means they are going

2103
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:19,890
beyond the basics when it comes
to adopting policies and

2104
02:02:19,890 --> 02:02:23,250
practices in queer care. Dr.
Mimi arquilla Queer

2105
02:02:23,250 --> 02:02:26,160
Adam Curry: care, here it is
John does the new one queer care

2106
02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:28,770
we have no health care, no queer
care comes

2107
02:02:28,770 --> 02:02:32,190
Unknown: to adopting policies
and practices in queer care. Dr.

2108
02:02:32,220 --> 02:02:35,760
Muni, Aquila and Carl Johnson,
join us now with more. Thank you

2109
02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:38,250
so much for being here. Thanks
for having us. Thank you. Yeah.

2110
02:02:38,250 --> 02:02:40,890
So Doctor, tell us what this
designation really means.

2111
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:43,650
Adam Curry: Doctor, what is
queer care? Can we start there?

2112
02:02:44,700 --> 02:02:50,760
Unknown: Okay, so it means that
our health care facility was

2113
02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:55,140
evaluated in four areas. And
those areas being the programs

2114
02:02:55,140 --> 02:02:59,790
and services we provide for
LGBTQ plus people, the our what

2115
02:02:59,790 --> 02:03:03,510
our foundational practices are,
in terms of organization, in

2116
02:03:03,510 --> 02:03:06,900
terms of our involvement with
the community, and also in terms

2117
02:03:06,900 --> 02:03:11,520
of our employee benefits and
services. And so we provide

2118
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:15,600
services in all four of those
areas, and we do it, we feel

2119
02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:19,620
very well. And that is how we
get that designation is because

2120
02:03:19,620 --> 02:03:23,610
we were able to achieve high
status, high status high

2121
02:03:23,610 --> 02:03:25,200
standards in those areas. And
it's

2122
02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:27,480
so important to promote
inclusive care. What does that

2123
02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:30,360
mean, tell all of our viewers
Yeah, so I think when

2124
02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:33,180
Adam Curry: underserved by the
way, this this clearly woman who

2125
02:03:33,180 --> 02:03:36,450
you're hearing female voice is
dressed and looks like a dude,

2126
02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:39,000
Unknown: what does that mean?
Tell all of our viewers Yeah, so

2127
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:41,940
I think when understanding
inclusive care, you first have

2128
02:03:41,940 --> 02:03:45,240
to kind of understand that not
everyone has the same experience

2129
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:48,270
in healthcare. And that can be
for a lot of reasons. It can be

2130
02:03:48,270 --> 02:03:51,300
because of gender, sexual
orientation, race, insurance,

2131
02:03:51,300 --> 02:03:55,320
status, lots of different
things. And with Inclusive care,

2132
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:59,490
the goal is to provide high
quality care, to everyone. And

2133
02:03:59,490 --> 02:04:02,460
to do that you really have to
break down barriers and meet the

2134
02:04:02,460 --> 02:04:05,610
community where it's at and
really address those needs. So

2135
02:04:05,610 --> 02:04:07,770
Adam Curry: I was about to throw
this clip away. I'm like this.

2136
02:04:08,070 --> 02:04:12,360
They said absolutely nothing
other than we excel at queer

2137
02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:17,280
care, which is just, it's just
offensive. What is queer care? I

2138
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:21,120
mean, that's not even a gender.
But now Now we have queer care.

2139
02:04:21,690 --> 02:04:24,690
And I would have tossed it out
had I not gotten a complete

2140
02:04:24,690 --> 02:04:28,410
explanation of what they really
won the award for in this second

2141
02:04:28,410 --> 02:04:29,280
clip, talk about

2142
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:30,960
Unknown: some of those
hesitations that people might

2143
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:34,110
face in going to get care where
someone may not even think that

2144
02:04:34,110 --> 02:04:36,240
this is something that other
people are facing.

2145
02:04:36,750 --> 02:04:39,120
Yeah, so there's a lot of
reasons people don't like going

2146
02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:43,860
to the doctor. Yeah, I think in
particular for LGBTQ people. It

2147
02:04:43,860 --> 02:04:46,800
can be, you know, fearful of
other situations that have

2148
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:49,830
happened that have been
unpleasant like being called the

2149
02:04:49,830 --> 02:04:53,100
wrong name being misgendered as
you know, invasive questions

2150
02:04:53,100 --> 02:04:55,920
that don't really have to do
with what you're there for, or

2151
02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:58,020
just having a provider who
doesn't know a whole lot about

2152
02:04:58,050 --> 02:05:02,880
LGBTQ health care. And as
someone who's not only a doctor,

2153
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:05,520
but like a patient and has had
all of those experiences at

2154
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:09,300
other healthcare institutions, I
completely understand why people

2155
02:05:09,300 --> 02:05:11,340
don't want to go to the doctor
and I really empathize with

2156
02:05:11,340 --> 02:05:16,380
them. But I think it also kind
of drives me to advocate for,

2157
02:05:16,380 --> 02:05:19,530
you know, a really great
healthcare experience. And, you

2158
02:05:19,530 --> 02:05:22,710
know, similar to you i health,
you know, the guiding forces

2159
02:05:22,710 --> 02:05:25,740
kind of treat others the way
you'd want to be treated. And in

2160
02:05:25,740 --> 02:05:29,190
doing so, you know, there's a
lot of things to make people

2161
02:05:29,190 --> 02:05:32,190
more comfortable at the doctor
in the healthcare setting. All

2162
02:05:32,190 --> 02:05:34,620
Adam Curry: right here, we're
getting down to it. So it's

2163
02:05:34,620 --> 02:05:40,800
about being misgendered. And
what what actually can we do to

2164
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:43,530
win this award and make you feel
comfortable?

2165
02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:45,960
Unknown: And, you know, some of
those things are as easy as

2166
02:05:45,990 --> 02:05:50,370
wearing like a pronoun pen to
let people know what pronouns

2167
02:05:50,850 --> 02:05:53,760
are asking people, their name,
their pronouns, using those

2168
02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:57,090
correctly, and just creating a
welcoming environment. It's

2169
02:05:57,090 --> 02:05:57,570
about

2170
02:05:57,570 --> 02:06:03,060
Adam Curry: the pronouns. up to
it, yes, it's all about wearing

2171
02:06:03,060 --> 02:06:07,170
a pronoun pin. So people know
that you're an ally, and that

2172
02:06:07,170 --> 02:06:11,610
you care about pronouns. That's
it, because this person was

2173
02:06:11,610 --> 02:06:19,620
misgendered. Somewhere. And this
one minutes, queer care. Well,

2174
02:06:20,070 --> 02:06:24,030
but I love the wall, but your
insurance status I have no, I

2175
02:06:24,030 --> 02:06:25,830
literally have no health
insurance.

2176
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:29,730
John C Dvorak: But you had some
sort of Texas thing? No,

2177
02:06:29,730 --> 02:06:37,650
Adam Curry: I have. You know, we
have crowd health, which is it's

2178
02:06:37,650 --> 02:06:42,000
crowd funding. So you, you pay
like 300 bucks a month. That's

2179
02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:47,730
reasonable. And, yeah, but we
were paying 1800 a month. For

2180
02:06:47,730 --> 02:06:50,970
the two of us. That's not
reasonable and deductible

2181
02:06:50,970 --> 02:06:56,880
$16,000 Are you kidding me?
Yeah, this is ridiculous.

2182
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:02,280
Unknown: That's just the whole
thing. So the chip

2183
02:07:02,460 --> 02:07:06,240
Adam Curry: is a complete chip.
But if you go for the queer

2184
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:08,520
care, Oh, you don't have to have
any insurance, your query will

2185
02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:15,210
take care of, you know, maybe I
might have to this seems to be

2186
02:07:15,210 --> 02:07:16,260
some benefits.

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02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:24,030
John C Dvorak: So I just had to
change topics a little bit. I do

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02:07:24,030 --> 02:07:27,540
have a clip. He says we brought
up the very beginning of the

2189
02:07:27,540 --> 02:07:32,670
show, which was what can trigger
a collapse of the AI phenomenon.

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02:07:32,850 --> 02:07:36,600
Yeah. And so I have this what I
call the wild clip, which is a

2191
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:40,350
clip that addresses this a
little bit it's from NPR it's

2192
02:07:40,350 --> 02:07:44,190
about the Clear View suit. It is
not really being covered very

2193
02:07:44,190 --> 02:07:44,940
well but it's

2194
02:07:44,940 --> 02:07:47,880
Adam Curry: layer view is are
those the guys that that sell

2195
02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:49,680
all the pictures to the cops?

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02:07:50,190 --> 02:07:52,680
John C Dvorak: Yeah, facial
recognition company. Yeah, that

2197
02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:53,490
company. Yeah.

2198
02:07:54,870 --> 02:07:56,460
Unknown: Play. Yep.

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02:07:56,460 --> 02:08:00,960
Just play soul recognition.
Startup clear view AI reached a

2200
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:03,870
settlement and the lawsuit
alleging its massive photo

2201
02:08:03,870 --> 02:08:07,560
collection of faces, violated
the subjects privacy rights.

2202
02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:11,880
attorneys say the deal could be
worth more than $50 million. To

2203
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:14,880
Ed Sheeran. Johnson Coleman gave
preliminary approval to the

2204
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:17,730
agreement yesterday. But the
unique agreement gives

2205
02:08:17,730 --> 02:08:20,370
plaintiffs in the case a share
of the company's potential

2206
02:08:20,370 --> 02:08:24,210
value, rather than a traditional
payout. Clear View is not

2207
02:08:24,210 --> 02:08:26,520
admitting fault as part of the
agreement.

2208
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:30,990
John C Dvorak: Okay, what makes
this wow to me is that these

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02:08:30,990 --> 02:08:34,320
companies have find, especially
a public company decided, hey,

2210
02:08:34,740 --> 02:08:42,510
what if we do the payout of
these lawsuits in stock? I

2211
02:08:42,510 --> 02:08:44,130
thought that was just a good
idea. It

2212
02:08:44,130 --> 02:08:47,340
Adam Curry: is a good idea.
Yeah, okay.

2213
02:08:47,340 --> 02:08:50,070
John C Dvorak: We Oh, why do
$100 million? Okay, let's issue

2214
02:08:50,070 --> 02:08:50,490
some more

2215
02:08:50,490 --> 02:08:53,070
Adam Curry: stock after they do
an offering for that they do a

2216
02:08:53,070 --> 02:08:53,730
seconder.

2217
02:08:53,730 --> 02:08:55,740
John C Dvorak: I just I think
it's a private it'd be a private

2218
02:08:55,740 --> 02:08:57,930
offering. You could do it.
There's all kinds of scam ish

2219
02:08:57,930 --> 02:08:58,740
ways to do it. I

2220
02:08:58,740 --> 02:08:59,550
Adam Curry: could do a pipe.

2221
02:09:01,050 --> 02:09:04,590
John C Dvorak: They could do a
lot of things. But it's it's

2222
02:09:04,620 --> 02:09:08,550
just genius. As far as I'm
concerned, companies note this

2223
02:09:09,180 --> 02:09:12,540
even for say Ford, you know,
General Motors, they have a Ford

2224
02:09:12,540 --> 02:09:15,780
during the pinto era. Oh,
instead of giving people money

2225
02:09:15,780 --> 02:09:16,170
and have some

2226
02:09:16,170 --> 02:09:21,930
Adam Curry: stock stock. That is
a good idea. Well, speaking of

2227
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:28,230
speaking of lawsuits, or legal
matters, so, you know, although

2228
02:09:28,230 --> 02:09:31,680
there's not a lot of reporting
in the US, per se, about the

2229
02:09:31,770 --> 02:09:37,110
Saudi Arabia D dollar rising,
just going to use that term, by

2230
02:09:38,190 --> 02:09:42,930
apparently not renewing the deal
to only sell their oil in US

2231
02:09:42,930 --> 02:09:47,910
dollars making the US dollar the
reserve currency. Well, I think

2232
02:09:47,910 --> 02:09:52,200
that we're new. We're starting
to nudge them a little bit. That

2233
02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:56,760
CBS out of the blue the CIA
broadcasting system starts to

2234
02:09:56,760 --> 02:10:01,470
bring up an old story which
includes the 28 pages that were

2235
02:10:01,470 --> 02:10:05,640
not included in the non
commissioned report. Oh yeah,

2236
02:10:05,700 --> 02:10:09,600
Unknown: CBS News exclusive the
unnerving video outside the US

2237
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:13,710
Capitol film two years before
the 911 attacks. Good evening,

2238
02:10:13,710 --> 02:10:17,070
I'm Nora O'Donnell and thank you
for being with us. Two decades

2239
02:10:17,070 --> 02:10:21,360
ago, the 911 Commission found
that all kinda acted alone. But

2240
02:10:21,360 --> 02:10:25,290
victims families say that is not
true. pointing to this video and

2241
02:10:25,290 --> 02:10:29,070
other evidence is proof. They
are suing Saudi Arabia claiming

2242
02:10:29,070 --> 02:10:32,610
its government provided crucial
assistance to the hijackers and

2243
02:10:32,610 --> 02:10:37,350
planners behind the September 11
attacks that killed nearly 3000

2244
02:10:37,350 --> 02:10:41,340
people. 60 minutes correspondent
Cecilia Vega reports

2245
02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:47,010
a voice on the video says in
Arabic, I am transmitting these

2246
02:10:47,010 --> 02:10:49,560
scenes to you from the heart of
the American capitol,

2247
02:10:49,590 --> 02:10:53,940
Washington. This video unsealed
in Federal Court this week and

2248
02:10:53,940 --> 02:10:58,020
obtained by 60 minutes was
recorded in the summer of 1999.

2249
02:10:59,790 --> 02:11:04,320
Man Behind the camera is Omar
lbu. Me who the FBI says was an

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02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:07,200
operative of the Saudi
intelligence service with close

2251
02:11:07,200 --> 02:11:10,770
ties to two of the 911
hijackers. The video was filmed

2252
02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:15,060
over several days, the UMi
recorded entrances and exits of

2253
02:11:15,060 --> 02:11:19,950
the Capitol security posts a
model of the building and nearby

2254
02:11:19,950 --> 02:11:23,430
landmarks in this portion of the
video but unique points out the

2255
02:11:23,430 --> 02:11:27,360
Washington Monument and says I
will get over there and report

2256
02:11:27,360 --> 02:11:31,470
to you in detail what is there.
He also notes the airport is not

2257
02:11:31,470 --> 02:11:32,910
far away. So

2258
02:11:32,910 --> 02:11:35,340
Adam Curry: then they bring in a
whole bunch of former spooks to

2259
02:11:35,340 --> 02:11:38,790
confirm this and this was
probably related to flight 93

2260
02:11:39,090 --> 02:11:39,540
Richard

2261
02:11:39,540 --> 02:11:42,480
Unknown: Lambert is a retired
FBI agent who led the initial

2262
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:46,110
911 investigation in San Diego,
where bu me and the two

2263
02:11:46,110 --> 02:11:49,830
hijackers live temporarily
before the attacks. He's now a

2264
02:11:49,830 --> 02:11:53,220
consultant on the case filed by
the 911 families if

2265
02:11:53,220 --> 02:11:56,280
you've ever flown into
Washington DC, one of the first

2266
02:11:56,280 --> 02:12:00,240
things you see on the horizon is
the Washington Monument. So if

2267
02:12:00,240 --> 02:12:03,180
you know where your other
targets are in terms of the

2268
02:12:03,180 --> 02:12:07,860
Washington Monument, it helps
guide you to your intended

2269
02:12:07,860 --> 02:12:08,520
target.

2270
02:12:08,580 --> 02:12:12,390
Federal investigators believe
the hijackers on flight 93,

2271
02:12:12,450 --> 02:12:16,110
which crashed near Shanksville,
Pennsylvania had the US Capitol

2272
02:12:16,140 --> 02:12:20,220
as their likely target. The
lawyers for the 911 families and

2273
02:12:20,220 --> 02:12:23,850
former intelligence analysts we
spoke to believe portions of the

2274
02:12:23,850 --> 02:12:27,120
video show be Umi surveilling
the capitol as part of that

2275
02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:31,830
plan. And in the video, he
references a quote plan. You

2276
02:12:31,830 --> 02:12:35,700
said that in the plan, what plan

2277
02:12:36,810 --> 02:12:39,450
I was talking to what do you
think he's talking about? I

2278
02:12:39,450 --> 02:12:44,400
think he's talking to the al
Qaeda planners who tasked him to

2279
02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:47,550
take the pre operational
surveillance video of the

2280
02:12:47,550 --> 02:12:48,450
intended target.

2281
02:12:48,690 --> 02:12:53,880
So this video is taken in late
June and early July of 1999.

2282
02:12:53,880 --> 02:12:55,770
What does that timing tell you?
Well, that

2283
02:12:55,770 --> 02:13:01,050
means it was taken within 90
days of the time when senior al

2284
02:13:01,050 --> 02:13:05,040
Qaeda planners reached the
decision that the Capitol would

2285
02:13:05,040 --> 02:13:07,470
be a target of the 911 attacks.

2286
02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:10,860
That's when Osama bin Laden
decided to approve Khalid Sheikh

2287
02:13:10,860 --> 02:13:15,270
Mohammed so called planes
operation. In the days after 911

2288
02:13:15,300 --> 02:13:17,970
British police discovered the
video during a raid on Bay

2289
02:13:17,970 --> 02:13:21,780
yummies UK apartment. They also
cease by unis handwritten

2290
02:13:21,810 --> 02:13:25,290
address book that the lawyers
for the 911 families say was

2291
02:13:25,290 --> 02:13:28,500
filled with phone numbers of
numerous senior Saudi officials

2292
02:13:28,530 --> 02:13:30,480
who were in the government at
the time.

2293
02:13:33,090 --> 02:13:35,460
Adam Curry: I don't believe any
of this story, of course, but it

2294
02:13:35,460 --> 02:13:40,500
that's not the point. The point
is, okay, Saudi Arabia. Well, we

2295
02:13:40,500 --> 02:13:41,460
got your number.

2296
02:13:41,940 --> 02:13:46,950
John C Dvorak: We go back to the
911. situation at the time,

2297
02:13:47,220 --> 02:13:51,450
there was a lot of discussion
about suing Saudi Arabia. Yes.

2298
02:13:51,510 --> 02:13:55,980
And our government blocked it.
Yes. Because we had no no no,

2299
02:13:55,980 --> 02:13:58,770
you can't sue them because
they're our friends. And so it

2300
02:13:58,770 --> 02:14:02,160
got blocked never happened and
then this, but we all knew that

2301
02:14:02,160 --> 02:14:04,950
there was some some information
that was left out of the report

2302
02:14:04,950 --> 02:14:08,970
and which could be anything that
could create the had number of

2303
02:14:08,970 --> 02:14:11,970
years to create this whole thing
could be like you think is maybe

2304
02:14:11,970 --> 02:14:18,750
a fake? But yes, this is exactly
right. This is a little pressure

2305
02:14:18,750 --> 02:14:22,170
point, because if Saudi Arabia
got blamed and sued by all these

2306
02:14:22,200 --> 02:14:28,950
by the 3000 families that were
harmed, they it would be a

2307
02:14:28,950 --> 02:14:32,610
nightmare. That was the idea was
to prevent that the nightmare

2308
02:14:32,610 --> 02:14:36,270
now Okay, you guys are going to
screw us out of our petro dollar

2309
02:14:36,270 --> 02:14:39,960
deal that you agreed to either
resign up or the nightmare

2310
02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:42,150
begins. That's what this is a

2311
02:14:46,740 --> 02:14:48,330
Adam Curry: little annoying
fact.

2312
02:14:48,900 --> 02:14:51,060
John C Dvorak: That was good.
That was good. Find. I'll give

2313
02:14:51,060 --> 02:14:52,650
you a clip of the day. Wow.

2314
02:14:53,520 --> 02:15:00,900
Adam Curry: Thank you.
Unexpected I just I came across

2315
02:15:00,900 --> 02:15:03,390
it. I'm like, hey, yeah, winter
clip that.

2316
02:15:03,900 --> 02:15:06,540
John C Dvorak: Let me clip that.
And that's what the show is all

2317
02:15:06,540 --> 02:15:07,590
about. That's what

2318
02:15:07,590 --> 02:15:11,370
Adam Curry: it's always about.
But I want to move into Israel

2319
02:15:11,370 --> 02:15:13,650
is now just Israel versus
everybody.

2320
02:15:14,759 --> 02:15:17,429
John C Dvorak: I do have the
Gaza update from PBS. If you

2321
02:15:17,429 --> 02:15:18,569
want to just start with that.
Oh,

2322
02:15:18,570 --> 02:15:20,250
Adam Curry: yeah, we'll start
with that. Hold on a second.

2323
02:15:21,240 --> 02:15:23,730
Gauze. Gauze update

2324
02:15:23,730 --> 02:15:26,100
Unknown: PBS. Here we go. death
toll in Gaza climbed higher

2325
02:15:26,100 --> 02:15:28,800
today following two Israeli
airstrikes on separate

2326
02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:32,400
locations. One hit a refugee
camp, and another struck an

2327
02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:36,150
Eastern neighborhood of Gaza
City. Palestinian and hospital

2328
02:15:36,150 --> 02:15:39,240
officials said at least 39
people were killed. Israel's

2329
02:15:39,240 --> 02:15:41,940
military said they were
targeting to Hamas military

2330
02:15:41,940 --> 02:15:45,750
sites. And in Tel Aviv tonight
1000s of people rallied to

2331
02:15:45,750 --> 02:15:48,990
demand new elections and call
for Israeli Prime Minister

2332
02:15:48,990 --> 02:15:52,620
Benjamin Netanyahu to reach a
deal to bring hostages home.

2333
02:15:53,580 --> 02:15:55,860
Adam Curry: They keep trying to
get him out. He's just like,

2334
02:15:55,860 --> 02:15:58,830
nope, nope, I'm just gonna sit
here for a bar. It's

2335
02:15:58,860 --> 02:16:01,470
John C Dvorak: mostly western
reporting that talks about this

2336
02:16:01,470 --> 02:16:05,010
way. If you get it, if you get
to the Middle East reporting,

2337
02:16:05,010 --> 02:16:08,220
there's less of it. Oh, yeah.
Trying to get him out. I think

2338
02:16:08,220 --> 02:16:10,800
this is us trying to get him
out? Well,

2339
02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:14,370
Adam Curry: I don't think we're
trying to well, maybe the Biden

2340
02:16:14,370 --> 02:16:17,760
administration, but the whole
idea here is exactly what we

2341
02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:23,130
heard from Massey,
Representative Massey, you said,

2342
02:16:23,400 --> 02:16:27,780
these military industrial
complex donors to AIPAC. They

2343
02:16:27,780 --> 02:16:32,160
want war, they want more war.
They want war, not just within

2344
02:16:32,190 --> 02:16:35,940
Gaza. That's just that's just a
starter pack. We want to go to

2345
02:16:35,940 --> 02:16:39,360
Lebanon. It's on the west Clarke
seven, and they want to get to

2346
02:16:39,360 --> 02:16:42,570
Iran. And that's where this is
headed. Here's NPR

2347
02:16:42,600 --> 02:16:45,900
Unknown: we have to remember the
Lebanese state is extremely weak

2348
02:16:45,900 --> 02:16:49,860
and Hezbollah was created with
the help of Iran, largely to

2349
02:16:49,860 --> 02:16:54,900
fight Israel after the Israeli
invasion of Lebanon in 1982. Mr.

2350
02:16:54,900 --> 02:16:57,990
Allah said his group is much
better arm now. And as an

2351
02:16:57,990 --> 02:17:02,130
example, he noted drone footage
released this week with detailed

2352
02:17:02,130 --> 02:17:06,090
images of potential targets in
Haifa, Israel's major port city,

2353
02:17:06,120 --> 02:17:09,780
he gloated that with all of
Israel's air defenses, the drone

2354
02:17:09,780 --> 02:17:13,650
was able to slip through them.
And he said that if there were

2355
02:17:13,650 --> 02:17:18,570
war, Hezbollah would fight with
what he said were no rules. As

2356
02:17:18,570 --> 02:17:21,390
for reaction, Israel's Foreign
Minister dismissed Israel as

2357
02:17:21,390 --> 02:17:24,330
remarks saying that if it came
to war, Hezbollah would be

2358
02:17:24,330 --> 02:17:28,260
destroyed and Lebanon severely
hit and Israel also has

2359
02:17:28,260 --> 02:17:31,650
interests in a gas field off the
coast of Lebanon. Oh, yes,

2360
02:17:31,680 --> 02:17:35,970
Adam Curry: yes. Oh, Leviathan.
Leviathan right over there.

2361
02:17:35,970 --> 02:17:38,580
Beautiful. And the BBC, of
course, chimed in the

2362
02:17:38,580 --> 02:17:40,980
Unknown: UN chief Antonio
Guterres has warned that

2363
02:17:40,980 --> 02:17:45,240
escalating tensions on Israel's
northern border could trigger a

2364
02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:50,130
catastrophe and turn Lebanon
into quote, another Gaza. All

2365
02:17:50,130 --> 02:17:52,770
Out conflict has been
threatening to erupt there since

2366
02:17:52,770 --> 02:17:56,400
the Lebanese militant group
Hezbollah began firing missiles

2367
02:17:56,400 --> 02:17:59,010
into northern Israel following
the October the seventh

2368
02:17:59,040 --> 02:18:02,520
massacre, prompting tit for tat
responses from Israel.

2369
02:18:02,700 --> 02:18:05,430
Adam Curry: It's so interesting
how this how this happens, like

2370
02:18:05,430 --> 02:18:09,300
well, you know, we're almost
done there and Gaza, we've

2371
02:18:09,330 --> 02:18:13,800
killed everybody. You know what,
why don't we lob some missiles.

2372
02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:17,310
It's our turn now. Now we're
gonna do it. Israeli

2373
02:18:17,310 --> 02:18:19,920
Unknown: strikes into southern
Lebanon have displaced more than

2374
02:18:19,920 --> 02:18:24,030
90,000 people on the Lebanese
side of the border. But some

2375
02:18:24,030 --> 02:18:28,140
have stayed, saying it's better
to die at home with dignity than

2376
02:18:28,140 --> 02:18:33,120
be driven out of their land like
the Palestinians. Fear of all

2377
02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:37,410
out war extends as far as the
capital of Beirut, where some

2378
02:18:37,410 --> 02:18:41,850
say they keep suitcases packed
and passports ready. In case

2379
02:18:41,850 --> 02:18:48,540
full scale war breaks out.
Hezbollah is a well trained,

2380
02:18:48,690 --> 02:18:56,340
well armed military, backed by
Iran, Iraq. Its leader Hassan

2381
02:18:56,340 --> 02:19:00,240
Nasrallah has threatened to
invade Israel if full scale war

2382
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:04,590
breaks out and says nowhere in
the country will be spared. But

2383
02:19:04,590 --> 02:19:08,700
Israel has been talking up its
readiness to take them on. tough

2384
02:19:08,700 --> 02:19:13,050
talk is part of both sides
strategy of deterrence. But the

2385
02:19:13,050 --> 02:19:17,340
line between deterrence and
decision on a wall is becoming

2386
02:19:17,340 --> 02:19:21,330
harder to see. But the longer
this conflict goes on, the more

2387
02:19:21,330 --> 02:19:23,250
it turns into playing with fire.

2388
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:31,800
Adam Curry: I mean, war is such
a great business. I mean, how's

2389
02:19:31,800 --> 02:19:35,010
Raytheon stock? Is that doing
anything that doing anything? I

2390
02:19:35,010 --> 02:19:41,340
mean? Take a look at the year to
date. Oh, yeah. He was at $85 in

2391
02:19:41,340 --> 02:19:45,870
January, it's 105. Now
Beautiful, beautiful. Raytheon

2392
02:19:45,870 --> 02:19:49,890
stock up. That's great. You
know, then you remember all my

2393
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:53,610
Iranian friends always say oh,
no, no, no, they are. They're

2394
02:19:53,610 --> 02:19:57,000
America and Iran. They're there.
They play these games together.

2395
02:19:58,080 --> 02:20:02,730
And then when we have Russia
doing deals with North Korea.

2396
02:20:03,090 --> 02:20:06,390
You can't make this up. South

2397
02:20:06,390 --> 02:20:08,820
Unknown: Korea has condemned the
defense pact that North Korea

2398
02:20:08,820 --> 02:20:12,690
signed with Russia. Earlier this
week. The foreign ministry

2399
02:20:12,690 --> 02:20:15,990
called it a threat to peace and
stability on the Korean

2400
02:20:15,990 --> 02:20:19,200
peninsula. So someone Russia's
ambassador to the Foreign

2401
02:20:19,200 --> 02:20:22,170
Ministry to discuss its
concerns. While the details of

2402
02:20:22,170 --> 02:20:25,170
the military pact are still
murky, South Korea is worried

2403
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:28,290
that it could encourage North
Korean aggression. So all

2404
02:20:28,290 --> 02:20:31,560
announced in response that it
was considering sending weapons

2405
02:20:31,560 --> 02:20:35,580
to Ukraine to support its
defense against Russia.

2406
02:20:35,640 --> 02:20:40,230
Adam Curry: Are you kidding me?
So NASA now we have North Korea

2407
02:20:40,230 --> 02:20:43,650
and South Korea representing
Russia and Ukraine. Are you

2408
02:20:43,650 --> 02:20:44,850
kidding me? Frank,

2409
02:20:45,150 --> 02:20:47,820
Unknown: Vladimir Putin wants
you all that supporting Ukraine

2410
02:20:47,820 --> 02:20:51,810
would be a very big mistake. I
was still interpreting that

2411
02:20:51,810 --> 02:20:52,260
warning.

2412
02:20:52,890 --> 02:20:56,580
Well, I think solar is still
interpreting that warning. One

2413
02:20:56,580 --> 02:21:00,750
of the articles of this
agreement suggested that each

2414
02:21:00,780 --> 02:21:04,740
country North Korea and Russia
would come to each other's aid

2415
02:21:04,860 --> 02:21:10,050
with all means, if they were in
a state of war, the Korean War

2416
02:21:10,050 --> 02:21:13,890
ended with an armistice not a
peace treaty. So a state of war

2417
02:21:13,890 --> 02:21:17,580
arguably exists now on the
Korean peninsula.

2418
02:21:18,780 --> 02:21:25,470
Pawleys? This is just sick. It's
unbelievable.

2419
02:21:25,470 --> 02:21:27,690
Adam Curry: Just pushing it
right in our face. Oh, look,

2420
02:21:27,690 --> 02:21:32,340
we'll make some more war stuff
over here. Now spend more on

2421
02:21:32,340 --> 02:21:33,090
war.

2422
02:21:35,190 --> 02:21:37,080
John C Dvorak: In the middle is
a good way to waste money. Yeah,

2423
02:21:37,080 --> 02:21:37,260
we

2424
02:21:37,260 --> 02:21:39,810
Adam Curry: got people with
Trank just upside down in the

2425
02:21:39,810 --> 02:21:42,810
streets. bent over

2426
02:21:43,140 --> 02:21:47,100
John C Dvorak: to I have my to
Ukraine, Ukraine. I'm sorry. To

2427
02:21:47,100 --> 02:21:50,400
hit right Ukraine. I got a
couple of Ukraine updates one

2428
02:21:50,400 --> 02:21:53,760
from NPR and contrasting with
one from PBS.

2429
02:21:53,790 --> 02:21:55,470
Adam Curry: Okay. I think

2430
02:21:57,660 --> 02:22:00,090
John C Dvorak: they're both but
they're both short. But let's

2431
02:22:00,090 --> 02:22:02,700
see how they do. Let's start
with NPR. Russia

2432
02:22:02,700 --> 02:22:06,090
Unknown: launched a major attack
of guided bombs on heart Kyiv

2433
02:22:06,090 --> 02:22:08,760
Ukraine's second biggest city
overnight, killing at least

2434
02:22:08,760 --> 02:22:12,150
three people and injuring more
than a dozen witnesses. A four

2435
02:22:12,150 --> 02:22:15,870
explosions were heard around the
city. And Moscow also targeted

2436
02:22:15,870 --> 02:22:18,570
Ukraine's power grid for the
eighth time in the past three

2437
02:22:18,570 --> 02:22:22,650
months. Ukraine's Air Force as
its defense systems shot down 12

2438
02:22:22,650 --> 02:22:26,760
of the 16 missiles and all 13
drones launched by Russia.

2439
02:22:27,750 --> 02:22:29,850
Adam Curry: Ma'am, Eric
Schmidt's make an out on this

2440
02:22:29,850 --> 02:22:34,350
deal. Remember, he was doing all
the drones in Ukraine?

2441
02:22:35,610 --> 02:22:37,170
John C Dvorak: He's making I
don't know. I don't remember

2442
02:22:37,170 --> 02:22:38,100
that. Yeah, yeah. We had a

2443
02:22:38,100 --> 02:22:40,830
Adam Curry: whole he had a whole
sit down with Fareed Zakaria and

2444
02:22:40,830 --> 02:22:43,980
he's like go drones gonna be
drones and he was right. It's

2445
02:22:43,980 --> 02:22:45,720
all drones everyone's drones

2446
02:22:45,720 --> 02:22:48,810
John C Dvorak: oh actually the
guided bombs are the more they

2447
02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:52,380
it's interesting that NPR
mentioned the guided bombs which

2448
02:22:52,380 --> 02:22:55,380
is really what the Russians are.
Did know when you stop these

2449
02:22:55,380 --> 02:22:58,710
things because they're coming
down at the speed of gravity

2450
02:22:58,740 --> 02:23:05,880
right the glider buzzing around.
I find it interesting at PBS I

2451
02:23:05,880 --> 02:23:09,210
don't believe in this clip even
mentions the guided bombs.

2452
02:23:09,300 --> 02:23:09,810
Ukrainian

2453
02:23:09,810 --> 02:23:11,910
Unknown: president Volodymyr
Zelensky, said Russia has

2454
02:23:11,910 --> 02:23:16,170
launched more than 2400 guided
missiles and Ukrainian targets

2455
02:23:16,350 --> 02:23:19,920
this month alone. His remarks
followed a deadly day of attacks

2456
02:23:19,920 --> 02:23:23,310
that killed three people and
injured dozens more in Hartke.

2457
02:23:23,310 --> 02:23:26,700
That's Ukraine's second largest
city. So Alinsky said Ukraine

2458
02:23:26,700 --> 02:23:29,040
needs more help from Western
allies.

2459
02:23:32,010 --> 02:23:37,290
Adam Curry: So I got some useful
news. From Africa news, it's not

2460
02:23:37,290 --> 02:23:41,940
about Africa. This is the only
place I could find this, where

2461
02:23:41,940 --> 02:23:44,730
Putin is reaching out to NATO.

2462
02:23:44,910 --> 02:23:47,970
Unknown: During a briefing with
graduate military and law

2463
02:23:47,970 --> 02:23:52,380
enforcement schools in Moscow.
Russian President Vladimir Putin

2464
02:23:52,380 --> 02:23:55,740
expressed his willingness to
engage in discussions regarding

2465
02:23:55,740 --> 02:23:59,970
security matters with NATO
member countries. Recently at a

2466
02:23:59,970 --> 02:24:02,880
meeting with the leadership of
the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,

2467
02:24:03,240 --> 02:24:06,480
I outlined our vision on the
work to create people and in

2468
02:24:06,510 --> 02:24:09,960
divisible security in Eurasia,
we are ready for a broad

2469
02:24:09,960 --> 02:24:13,770
international discussion of
these key vital issues, both

2470
02:24:13,770 --> 02:24:16,320
with our colleagues in the
Shanghai Cooperation

2471
02:24:16,320 --> 02:24:20,520
Organization, the CIS, the
Eurasian Economic Community,

2472
02:24:20,700 --> 02:24:25,500
BRICS and other international
associations, and NATO states

2473
02:24:25,530 --> 02:24:29,220
among others, naturally, by the
time when they are ready for

2474
02:24:29,220 --> 02:24:33,360
this, in addition, Putin pledged
to enhance the nuclear

2475
02:24:33,360 --> 02:24:37,650
capabilities of his nation and
equip the military with a state

2476
02:24:37,650 --> 02:24:39,750
of weaponry. So

2477
02:24:39,750 --> 02:24:43,530
Adam Curry: he's wants to talk
but in the meantime, ramp up the

2478
02:24:43,530 --> 02:24:47,340
nukes. They don't want to talk.
No, of course they don't want to

2479
02:24:47,340 --> 02:24:52,500
talk to himself. They never talk
about peace ever, ever.

2480
02:24:54,390 --> 02:24:57,750
John C Dvorak: I have no money
in it. Peace

2481
02:24:57,750 --> 02:25:03,150
Adam Curry: is not profitable. I
have a little bit some updates

2482
02:25:03,150 --> 02:25:07,770
on the bird flu, which has gone
kind of quiet during this week

2483
02:25:07,770 --> 02:25:13,170
as I noticed this during this
week of of the debate. At first

2484
02:25:13,170 --> 02:25:18,750
we have Larkin soon to be de
malarkey. And she provides a

2485
02:25:18,750 --> 02:25:22,980
boots on the ground. She says
I'm a third generation farmer in

2486
02:25:22,980 --> 02:25:26,670
California and I have so much
farming information to share

2487
02:25:26,670 --> 02:25:29,250
with you guys. It is our busy
season, but I'll try to send

2488
02:25:29,250 --> 02:25:33,360
more info soon. Although the war
on chickens jingle is one of the

2489
02:25:33,360 --> 02:25:38,940
best, I believe it is. I believe
it is a war on protein, beef,

2490
02:25:38,970 --> 02:25:43,770
dairy and chicken and just
farmers in general. Notice, you

2491
02:25:43,770 --> 02:25:50,670
don't hear much about pork. This
is true. Of course, the Chinese

2492
02:25:50,700 --> 02:25:54,630
own the pork industry in the US
smithfield foods. We don't hear

2493
02:25:54,630 --> 02:25:58,980
much about pork. It's only
chicken, beef dairy, not about

2494
02:25:58,980 --> 02:25:59,550
pork.

2495
02:26:00,210 --> 02:26:03,660
John C Dvorak: It's interesting,
I think. Yes. And when you add

2496
02:26:03,660 --> 02:26:06,480
the pork prices are extremely
low right now.

2497
02:26:06,480 --> 02:26:09,660
Adam Curry: Hmm. Yeah. The
summer of pork is what we talked

2498
02:26:09,660 --> 02:26:10,050
about.

2499
02:26:10,890 --> 02:26:13,200
John C Dvorak: Chinese pork
talked about this summer of

2500
02:26:13,230 --> 02:26:14,460
pork. We

2501
02:26:14,610 --> 02:26:17,220
Adam Curry: I literally said the
summer of pork on the show.

2502
02:26:18,000 --> 02:26:21,180
Yeah. All right. Don't make me
look it up. Now. I

2503
02:26:21,180 --> 02:26:22,350
John C Dvorak: want you to look
it up.

2504
02:26:23,160 --> 02:26:27,330
Adam Curry: And I reached out to
my friends who did very well in

2505
02:26:27,330 --> 02:26:31,590
the testing business during
COVID. Your buddies? Yeah. And I

2506
02:26:31,590 --> 02:26:34,620
said, What are you hearing about
the bird flu? Here's what came

2507
02:26:34,620 --> 02:26:40,050
back. The CDC made a call out
last week to see li a certified

2508
02:26:40,050 --> 02:26:44,340
laboratories, asking them to
create rapid tests for bird flu,

2509
02:26:44,760 --> 02:26:48,330
just like they did when COVID
started and a surplus of rapid

2510
02:26:48,360 --> 02:26:52,500
tests popped up on the market.
I'll keep you posted. So

2511
02:26:52,920 --> 02:26:56,940
John C Dvorak: Oh, that'd be
more free tests. Yeah. Load up.

2512
02:26:57,450 --> 02:26:57,660
We

2513
02:26:57,660 --> 02:27:00,750
Adam Curry: know it's a bonanza.
We know it's a bonanza.

2514
02:27:01,440 --> 02:27:03,540
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I get
to test for free but somebody's

2515
02:27:03,540 --> 02:27:04,320
paying for him.

2516
02:27:05,670 --> 02:27:07,950
Adam Curry: Exact taxpayer US
government.

2517
02:27:18,210 --> 02:27:22,350
Yes, the vape wars and the vape
wars are back on I see you have

2518
02:27:22,350 --> 02:27:24,900
to vape walk vapour clips. I'd

2519
02:27:24,900 --> 02:27:27,840
John C Dvorak: like to start
with pathetic. Oh, good.

2520
02:27:27,900 --> 02:27:28,980
Adam Curry: Let's start with
those.

2521
02:27:29,280 --> 02:27:32,820
John C Dvorak: Let's start with
this is about trying to get kids

2522
02:27:33,540 --> 02:27:39,900
off of these things. And this is
considered a crisis. So let's go

2523
02:27:39,900 --> 02:27:42,780
to teen vape crisis is good
stuff. One

2524
02:27:42,780 --> 02:27:44,850
Unknown: of my friends was so
addicted, she would say things

2525
02:27:44,850 --> 02:27:46,770
like, I'll just die at 20
Whatever.

2526
02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:52,320
2.1 million teens vaped and
2023. A third of whom were just

2527
02:27:52,320 --> 02:27:53,280
in middle school.

2528
02:27:53,310 --> 02:27:56,220
Adam Curry: What? Who's doing
this reporting? What outfit?

2529
02:27:57,060 --> 02:27:58,500
John C Dvorak: I believe this is
NPR

2530
02:27:58,530 --> 02:28:01,890
Unknown: at a Senate hearing
Wednesday, lawmakers asked the

2531
02:28:01,890 --> 02:28:05,700
FDA why it's failing to tackle
the problems. This is

2532
02:28:05,700 --> 02:28:12,390
a shelf full of potentially
dangerous substances in a store

2533
02:28:12,570 --> 02:28:15,840
in the shadow of the FDA
building. I'm just trying to

2534
02:28:15,840 --> 02:28:18,600
figure out if any of this is
illegal or how in the hill it's

2535
02:28:18,600 --> 02:28:19,080
legal.

2536
02:28:19,230 --> 02:28:23,220
Senator Tom Tillis points to
flavors such as strawberry

2537
02:28:23,220 --> 02:28:27,720
dragon fruit, watermelon, even
watermelon bubblegum the FDA is

2538
02:28:27,720 --> 02:28:31,860
director of tobacco products
Brian King never directly

2539
02:28:31,860 --> 02:28:32,520
answered.

2540
02:28:32,550 --> 02:28:36,360
We do have a pre market paradigm
for reviewing applications and

2541
02:28:36,360 --> 02:28:39,390
the sheer volume of that app.
The volume of those applications

2542
02:28:39,390 --> 02:28:42,360
and the volume of the market
requires us to prioritize our

2543
02:28:42,360 --> 02:28:43,140
enforcement efforts.

2544
02:28:43,170 --> 02:28:47,280
The president of the Campaign
for Tobacco Free Kids, Yolanda

2545
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:50,820
Richardson answered in his
place, FDA

2546
02:28:50,820 --> 02:28:54,150
failed to assert its regulatory
authority over E cigarettes

2547
02:28:54,180 --> 02:28:58,110
until a substantial e cigarette
market had already formed, and E

2548
02:28:58,110 --> 02:29:01,560
cigarettes had already become
the most popular tobacco product

2549
02:29:01,590 --> 02:29:04,500
among youth. FDA then further
delay

2550
02:29:04,530 --> 02:29:08,820
e cigarette popularity exploded
in the mid 2000s. When they

2551
02:29:08,820 --> 02:29:12,960
entered the market, the US
market was valued at $28 billion

2552
02:29:13,590 --> 02:29:18,330
in 2023 and is expected to grow
at a compound annual rate of

2553
02:29:18,330 --> 02:29:25,740
30.6%. From 2023 to 2030. Only
23 e cigarette brands are

2554
02:29:25,740 --> 02:29:30,360
authorized for sale in the US
but over 6000 brands are on the

2555
02:29:30,360 --> 02:29:30,990
market.

2556
02:29:31,410 --> 02:29:34,200
Adam Curry: What is this is
real. This is actually quite

2557
02:29:34,200 --> 02:29:39,810
good. Because I know what this
is about. What is interesting is

2558
02:29:39,810 --> 02:29:45,480
they keep saying e cigarette and
tobacco product vape is not a

2559
02:29:45,480 --> 02:29:51,450
tobacco product. There's no
tobacco in it. Nicotine Yes. But

2560
02:29:51,450 --> 02:29:56,370
that's not a tobacco this was
the whole problem is that kids

2561
02:29:56,370 --> 02:30:00,000
were vaping and they weren't
smoking so the MSA the master

2562
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:03,750
states agreement that you know,
the tax money was going down,

2563
02:30:03,750 --> 02:30:07,200
down down because these kids are
not on tobacco. Now all of a

2564
02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:13,200
sudden, vape is an e cigarette.
And it's a tobacco product. This

2565
02:30:13,200 --> 02:30:15,990
is the new, this is the new
thing they're doing. This is a

2566
02:30:16,020 --> 02:30:18,210
big switcheroo. Well,

2567
02:30:18,210 --> 02:30:20,160
John C Dvorak: they've done a
good job of it. You know, the

2568
02:30:20,160 --> 02:30:24,510
funny thing is I had listened to
and recorded and edited these

2569
02:30:24,510 --> 02:30:28,920
reports. I, I don't see anybody
using vapes at all and in the

2570
02:30:28,920 --> 02:30:29,790
Bay Area.

2571
02:30:30,540 --> 02:30:32,940
Adam Curry: While you're about
to, and I'll tell you why. But I

2572
02:30:32,940 --> 02:30:33,960
want to hear okay, well, that's

2573
02:30:34,290 --> 02:30:37,140
Unknown: up to you can tell me
why over a quarter of youth e

2574
02:30:37,140 --> 02:30:39,480
cigarette users use the products
every

2575
02:30:39,480 --> 02:30:44,010
day. One of the primary reasons
as you have heard, children are

2576
02:30:44,010 --> 02:30:47,550
attracted to E cigarettes is the
sweet fruit candy and mint

2577
02:30:47,550 --> 02:30:48,180
flavors.

2578
02:30:48,360 --> 02:30:49,140
They come in

2579
02:30:49,170 --> 02:30:54,180
Dr. Susan Wally helps people get
off nicotine products. She says

2580
02:30:54,180 --> 02:30:57,360
it's very difficult to get
children to quit because of the

2581
02:30:57,360 --> 02:30:59,700
high nicotine volume and vapes.

2582
02:30:59,790 --> 02:31:02,850
The adolescent brain is more
susceptible to nicotine

2583
02:31:02,850 --> 02:31:06,720
addiction. So symptoms of
dependence can appear in days to

2584
02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:09,900
weeks. A first experimentation
she says

2585
02:31:09,900 --> 02:31:13,620
for most teens usage is
consistent, frequent and

2586
02:31:13,620 --> 02:31:17,730
dependent such as the case with
high schooler Josie Shapiro.

2587
02:31:17,940 --> 02:31:21,780
The first flavor I tried was
blueberry ice. But I tried

2588
02:31:21,780 --> 02:31:24,600
pretty much every flavor my
friends had. I thought I was

2589
02:31:24,600 --> 02:31:27,810
just enjoying the flavors. But
soon my 14 year old brain crave

2590
02:31:27,810 --> 02:31:29,820
the nicotine more and more
Shapiro is

2591
02:31:29,820 --> 02:31:33,660
still addicted. She says vaping
is affecting her mood, her

2592
02:31:33,660 --> 02:31:37,770
ability to breathe, her skin and
her social life.

2593
02:31:37,980 --> 02:31:41,070
I've tried to quit vaping over
and over again. But it's really

2594
02:31:41,070 --> 02:31:44,220
really hard. Everything in my
life is a trigger, hanging out

2595
02:31:44,220 --> 02:31:47,550
with friends driving my car,
going to the bathroom going into

2596
02:31:47,550 --> 02:31:50,040
the convenience store. All of it
makes me want to

2597
02:31:50,040 --> 02:31:54,270
vape the FDA and Department of
Justice have pledged further

2598
02:31:54,270 --> 02:31:58,080
cooperation and battling teen
vaping they're forming a task

2599
02:31:58,080 --> 02:32:01,830
force with several other
agencies, including the Postal

2600
02:32:01,830 --> 02:32:03,630
Service. Yes.

2601
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:07,710
John C Dvorak: Before you go on
with your analysis. I don't know

2602
02:32:07,710 --> 02:32:12,360
if you notice this, but she said
she's a 14 year older as her 14

2603
02:32:12,360 --> 02:32:15,750
year old brain. Yeah, she's
reading from a script. And then

2604
02:32:15,750 --> 02:32:17,550
she said she was driving a car.

2605
02:32:18,720 --> 02:32:19,890
Adam Curry: Isn't that
interesting?

2606
02:32:20,280 --> 02:32:22,170
John C Dvorak: How does that
work? How does it for you know

2607
02:32:22,170 --> 02:32:25,890
as she's stolen, it steals cars
have a license if she's 14

2608
02:32:25,890 --> 02:32:28,500
joyriding we used to do that.
There's something about this

2609
02:32:28,500 --> 02:32:32,100
report that that kind of
bothered me. All right. So

2610
02:32:32,100 --> 02:32:35,070
Adam Curry: we have to go back
and I know we have vape experts

2611
02:32:35,070 --> 02:32:38,550
out there who will help me if I
go astray and please feel free

2612
02:32:38,610 --> 02:32:42,600
to email me because this I'm a
vapor but it's not an e

2613
02:32:42,600 --> 02:32:45,990
cigarette okay, it's a big
battery and I wind the coil and

2614
02:32:45,990 --> 02:32:50,610
I've got you know pure cotton
not from China. So first we had

2615
02:32:50,610 --> 02:32:54,480
jewel this is really what it was
the jewel e cigarette the vape

2616
02:32:54,960 --> 02:32:57,840
which was you know, you put in a
little thing in there a little

2617
02:32:57,840 --> 02:33:04,590
cartridge and right Reynolds
bought it or who was it who owns

2618
02:33:04,590 --> 02:33:08,430
Marlboro. So Philip Morris
Philip Morris, I guess they

2619
02:33:08,430 --> 02:33:11,910
bought it, they bought it they
tanked the company blew the

2620
02:33:11,910 --> 02:33:16,440
company up. What's happened now
is all these companies that

2621
02:33:16,470 --> 02:33:19,860
wanted to have specially these
flavors, they're all out of

2622
02:33:19,860 --> 02:33:23,400
business because the FDA said
you can only get something on

2623
02:33:23,400 --> 02:33:26,940
the market if you pay to have
every single flavor and every

2624
02:33:26,940 --> 02:33:30,870
nicotine level tested at about a
million bucks per flavor per

2625
02:33:30,870 --> 02:33:33,270
nicotine level. So all these
companies went out of business

2626
02:33:33,540 --> 02:33:38,250
vaping is pretty much is dead,
except for the Chinese. That's

2627
02:33:38,250 --> 02:33:40,860
why the Postal Service was
involved in that report. The

2628
02:33:40,860 --> 02:33:44,220
Chinese are flooding the market
with absolute crap because all

2629
02:33:44,220 --> 02:33:47,430
these flavors what who knows
what they're putting in that?

2630
02:33:48,330 --> 02:33:51,930
But that's not what this is
about. This is about bringing

2631
02:33:51,930 --> 02:33:56,820
back jewel. I think one or two
shows ago we had the FDA going

2632
02:33:56,850 --> 02:34:00,630
oh yeah, no jewel. Yeah, we're
gonna approve you now. And right

2633
02:34:00,630 --> 02:34:05,160
on cue after they took menthol
cigarettes out menthol

2634
02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:08,610
cigarettes who smokes menthol
cigarettes, black America, smoke

2635
02:34:08,610 --> 02:34:12,300
slit lamp menthol cigarettes,
let's bring them back in people.

2636
02:34:12,870 --> 02:34:16,560
Unknown: The FDA has approved
the sale of the first menthol e

2637
02:34:16,560 --> 02:34:20,790
cigarettes. For adults, the
authorization does not mean

2638
02:34:20,790 --> 02:34:24,870
vaping is safe, but health
officials say it can be a little

2639
02:34:24,870 --> 02:34:28,200
bit less harmful. As an
alternative to regular

2640
02:34:28,200 --> 02:34:30,960
cigarettes. The move already is
getting pushed back from anti

2641
02:34:30,960 --> 02:34:33,930
smoking groups who argue it's
only going to fuel the youth

2642
02:34:33,930 --> 02:34:35,460
vaping epidemic further.

2643
02:34:35,730 --> 02:34:38,310
Adam Curry: And why do they want
all this? This is because of

2644
02:34:38,310 --> 02:34:44,310
Senate Bill 2929 to amend
Internal Revenue Code of 1986

2645
02:34:44,340 --> 02:34:48,750
provide tax rate parity among
all tobacco products and for

2646
02:34:48,750 --> 02:34:56,520
other purposes. And this is also
known as the What is this

2647
02:34:56,520 --> 02:35:01,800
called? The Tobacco Tax Equity
Act cuts. And what do they

2648
02:35:01,800 --> 02:35:06,600
insert into the tax code?
Nicotine taxable nicotine?

2649
02:35:07,020 --> 02:35:12,720
Remember, it's not a tobacco
product. So now Oh, yeah, this

2650
02:35:12,720 --> 02:35:16,800
is how we do it. View on do you
want to do something bad kids no

2651
02:35:16,800 --> 02:35:20,730
problem as long as we can tax
it. So now they're going to tax

2652
02:35:20,730 --> 02:35:24,000
the vapes. And now we make it
legal again. We just have to get

2653
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:27,900
the Chinese stuff off of the
market. It's so insidious, they

2654
02:35:27,900 --> 02:35:32,460
ruined a burgeoning industry.
Almost got Trump in on the deal.

2655
02:35:32,460 --> 02:35:36,450
If you remember that Melania
saying, Oh, no, this vaping is

2656
02:35:36,450 --> 02:35:39,690
bad. And then Trump was like,
yeah, and then he spun on a

2657
02:35:39,690 --> 02:35:43,740
dime, and then dropped out of
that whole thing. Because this

2658
02:35:43,740 --> 02:35:47,280
was the scam they were pulling.
They ruined all competition,

2659
02:35:47,790 --> 02:35:51,060
gave it to the big tobacco guys.
And now they make it legal

2660
02:35:51,060 --> 02:35:55,260
again, with their approved
tobacco products, which is not

2661
02:35:55,260 --> 02:35:59,820
tobacco, it's nicotine, and it's
taxed. It's a beautiful scam.

2662
02:36:02,160 --> 02:36:03,150
John C Dvorak: It's excellent.

2663
02:36:04,950 --> 02:36:07,800
Adam Curry: I have to say, if
you're gonna do it, do it well.

2664
02:36:08,520 --> 02:36:10,800
But don't pretend like you have
these little

2665
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:12,690
John C Dvorak: screens, you can
pretend all you want doesn't

2666
02:36:12,690 --> 02:36:13,770
matter. Nobody cares.

2667
02:36:14,700 --> 02:36:18,120
Adam Curry: I care. But you're
the only one. I'm not the only

2668
02:36:18,150 --> 02:36:19,410
I'm not the only vapor.

2669
02:36:20,160 --> 02:36:21,900
John C Dvorak: No, I'm saying
you're the only one who cares

2670
02:36:21,900 --> 02:36:23,490
about the scam? Oh, well, you

2671
02:36:23,490 --> 02:36:24,570
Adam Curry: because I'm not in
on it.

2672
02:36:27,360 --> 02:36:30,390
John C Dvorak: Which, by the
way, is a very interesting cake.

2673
02:36:31,290 --> 02:36:35,640
I'm not going to expose the
scams I'm not involved in.

2674
02:36:36,810 --> 02:36:40,530
Adam Curry: I just have one one
more clip I wanted to play about

2675
02:36:40,530 --> 02:36:44,040
the anti Defamation League
because this just cracks me up.

2676
02:36:44,940 --> 02:36:48,270
This is This is too funny. It's
from morning, Joe. So it's like

2677
02:36:48,270 --> 02:36:52,290
everyone's going crazy. What
side are we supposed to be on?

2678
02:36:52,290 --> 02:36:56,700
We had to be on the on the Jews
side on the Arab side, the Hamas

2679
02:36:56,700 --> 02:36:59,820
side, the Hezbollah side, we're
confused. Let's go to Wikipedia,

2680
02:36:59,850 --> 02:37:00,120
one of

2681
02:37:00,120 --> 02:37:02,490
Unknown: the world's most
popular information websites,

2682
02:37:02,670 --> 02:37:06,810
has declared the anti Defamation
League as an unreliable source.

2683
02:37:07,650 --> 02:37:11,310
The editors at Wikipedia now say
that the top Jewish civil rights

2684
02:37:11,310 --> 02:37:14,730
group and one of the world's
preeminent authorities on anti

2685
02:37:14,730 --> 02:37:18,780
Jewish hate is not a reliable
source for information about the

2686
02:37:18,780 --> 02:37:23,100
ISRAEL PALESTINE conflict and
anti semitism. They're claiming

2687
02:37:23,130 --> 02:37:26,220
that because it's you guys are
both in their words, advocacy

2688
02:37:26,220 --> 02:37:30,180
and a resource organization. So
therefore, the advocacy, taints

2689
02:37:30,210 --> 02:37:35,730
the research, what do you make?
I mean, look, our processes are

2690
02:37:36,660 --> 02:37:41,460
rigorous. Our methodologies are
sound, they stand up to

2691
02:37:41,460 --> 02:37:45,240
scrutiny. Everything is
transparent, done very above the

2692
02:37:45,240 --> 02:37:49,020
board. We have a team of PhDs
who does work, anti semitism is

2693
02:37:49,050 --> 02:37:52,800
up, acts of harassment,
vandalism, and violent violence

2694
02:37:52,830 --> 02:37:55,770
are up. And if you don't have
the leading organization in the

2695
02:37:55,770 --> 02:38:00,180
world, tracking anti semitism in
our data on Wikipedia, anti

2696
02:38:00,180 --> 02:38:03,870
semitism will continue to
increase. I mean, we work with

2697
02:38:03,870 --> 02:38:07,290
policymakers, we work with
journalists, we work with

2698
02:38:07,290 --> 02:38:10,290
elected officials, law
enforcement to shed a light on

2699
02:38:10,290 --> 02:38:10,590
this,

2700
02:38:10,740 --> 02:38:14,160
Adam Curry: I just love that
they're taking wiki pedia

2701
02:38:14,160 --> 02:38:15,180
seriously.

2702
02:38:15,780 --> 02:38:17,940
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
pathetic. But there's also an

2703
02:38:17,940 --> 02:38:23,040
ill logic. And what he said in
the old logic is that if we're

2704
02:38:23,040 --> 02:38:26,910
not doing our jobs and
antiSemitism will increase,

2705
02:38:27,090 --> 02:38:31,890
well, you're doing your jobs and
it's increasing anyway. So what

2706
02:38:31,890 --> 02:38:32,700
good are you

2707
02:38:34,170 --> 02:38:37,110
Adam Curry: just love the the
editors or Wikipedia determined

2708
02:38:37,140 --> 02:38:39,360
John C Dvorak: that Wikipedia
has always been woke, and it's

2709
02:38:39,360 --> 02:38:43,230
got all kinds of issues. It's
completely wrong about half a

2710
02:38:43,230 --> 02:38:47,280
dozen things that these stays
with it. A bunch

2711
02:38:47,280 --> 02:38:53,220
Adam Curry: of spooks running it
is hilarious, I think is great.

2712
02:38:53,670 --> 02:38:58,080
Oh, by the way, sir Jake, sent
me a note. We were talking about

2713
02:38:58,080 --> 02:39:02,190
Taco Tuesday on the on the
Eisenhower was the Eisenhower,

2714
02:39:03,450 --> 02:39:06,210
John C Dvorak: which says, oh,
yeah, the USS Eisenhower

2715
02:39:06,210 --> 02:39:08,340
Adam Curry: versus Eisenhower.
And I was like, Oh, what's this

2716
02:39:08,340 --> 02:39:12,810
with Taco Tuesday? Well, I got
slapped as an evil supply

2717
02:39:12,840 --> 02:39:16,680
officer who has been in charge
of galleys on ships. Hiking,

2718
02:39:16,680 --> 02:39:21,720
confirm that Taco Tuesday is a
huge hit of Sailor favorite, and

2719
02:39:21,720 --> 02:39:24,990
something we simply can't do
without if Taco Tuesdays went

2720
02:39:24,990 --> 02:39:30,300
away. It would be a morale
Crusher. Good to know.

2721
02:39:31,410 --> 02:39:33,930
John C Dvorak: I doubt it's good
to know I

2722
02:39:33,930 --> 02:39:36,720
Adam Curry: take it from Sir
Jake. And he uses he knows

2723
02:39:36,720 --> 02:39:38,400
what's up. Well,

2724
02:39:38,400 --> 02:39:41,100
John C Dvorak: if he before he
take our final break, I do have

2725
02:39:41,100 --> 02:39:44,100
a kind of a second half a show
couple of clips. You

2726
02:39:44,100 --> 02:39:48,450
Adam Curry: know, well, let me
just throw the Theramin in. All

2727
02:39:48,450 --> 02:39:51,540
right now we're entering second
half of show you've taken over

2728
02:39:51,540 --> 02:39:53,370
my gig. Let's find

2729
02:39:53,370 --> 02:39:58,200
John C Dvorak: out nobody else
is doing it. No source. So this

2730
02:39:58,200 --> 02:40:03,930
is a podcast called Forbidden
news that has gotten a lot of

2731
02:40:03,930 --> 02:40:07,470
attention on the on the Twitter
and some other social networks

2732
02:40:07,470 --> 02:40:12,480
and it's just a couple of
blowhards. This guy Oh loony or

2733
02:40:12,480 --> 02:40:15,960
Loony, whatever his name is
British guys, and they're

2734
02:40:15,960 --> 02:40:19,620
talking about the UN troops are
coming in to take over

2735
02:40:19,620 --> 02:40:21,030
everything. Oh, yeah,

2736
02:40:21,030 --> 02:40:23,520
Adam Curry: this is always good.
Yeah, the blue helmets are

2737
02:40:23,520 --> 02:40:24,390
coming. Yeah.

2738
02:40:24,390 --> 02:40:25,950
John C Dvorak: And they're gonna
come in, and they come in, in

2739
02:40:25,950 --> 02:40:28,590
United States too. But this is
the British version. It's the

2740
02:40:28,590 --> 02:40:32,790
same kind of story that we get
here. But this is a bunch of

2741
02:40:32,790 --> 02:40:36,030
Brits talking back and forth
about it. And to listen to this

2742
02:40:36,030 --> 02:40:40,710
insanity is just beyond me. So
this UN soldiers on Forbidden

2743
02:40:40,710 --> 02:40:41,460
news,

2744
02:40:41,550 --> 02:40:43,290
Unknown: you know, we talked
about a lot of things to do with

2745
02:40:43,290 --> 02:40:46,320
COVID, and what your experiences
were with all of that, but

2746
02:40:46,590 --> 02:40:49,620
you've also been speaking out
about something else that seems

2747
02:40:49,620 --> 02:40:55,260
to be growing exponentially
every day. And that is the mass

2748
02:40:55,290 --> 02:41:00,090
illegal immigration that's going
on in England, in Wales, in

2749
02:41:00,090 --> 02:41:03,870
Scotland, and over in Ireland as
well. I mean, it is quite

2750
02:41:03,870 --> 02:41:08,220
literally, off the charts and a
lot of people. A lot of people

2751
02:41:08,220 --> 02:41:11,730
say, Look, this isn't normal.
There's something not right.

2752
02:41:11,730 --> 02:41:15,120
This isn't just refugees coming
in. These aren't people fleeing

2753
02:41:15,120 --> 02:41:18,360
from some kind of war zone.
These are predominantly men,

2754
02:41:18,840 --> 02:41:24,300
aged between 25 and 35. Young
fighting age men as my old boss,

2755
02:41:24,300 --> 02:41:27,210
Nigel Farage once referred to
them, and I think he's right.

2756
02:41:27,480 --> 02:41:29,520
John, what do you think's going
on here, rather,

2757
02:41:29,550 --> 02:41:32,610
so I can tell you these are un
soldiers and they will be

2758
02:41:32,610 --> 02:41:36,060
deployed by the who, when they
announced the next pandemic

2759
02:41:36,060 --> 02:41:39,120
lockdown. That's what's going to
happen. They've been trained by

2760
02:41:39,120 --> 02:41:42,210
British soldiers have been
trained by the Black Watch

2761
02:41:42,210 --> 02:41:45,780
regiment. They were trained in
them in Antalya in Turkey, and

2762
02:41:45,780 --> 02:41:49,650
in the east of Ukraine. They're
predominantly down to Sergeant

2763
02:41:49,650 --> 02:41:52,350
ranks there then shipped to
France. They all signed the

2764
02:41:52,350 --> 02:41:55,290
Official Secrets Act. Then
they're ferried over and the

2765
02:41:55,290 --> 02:41:59,100
idea of them being ferried over
is they're lost at sea. So they

2766
02:41:59,100 --> 02:42:03,240
have to be under international
law saved from being lost at sea

2767
02:42:03,240 --> 02:42:06,330
and that's why they take the
route they do. The boats are

2768
02:42:06,330 --> 02:42:10,410
housed in a home office
compound. And then they're

2769
02:42:10,410 --> 02:42:14,610
shipped back to France on to
British Hall his firm lorries

2770
02:42:14,610 --> 02:42:17,640
and I could supply you the
details of the reg numbers to

2771
02:42:17,640 --> 02:42:21,690
play an unsigned written
lorries, the pallets, the

2772
02:42:21,690 --> 02:42:24,690
outboard motors are strapped on
pallets, they go on one lorry,

2773
02:42:24,990 --> 02:42:28,860
the boats go on to the other
lorry, and they're sent back to

2774
02:42:28,860 --> 02:42:32,250
France for reuse. I've got 11
gigabytes of footage. There's a

2775
02:42:32,250 --> 02:42:35,370
guy down there ex military. He's
been using drones and

2776
02:42:35,370 --> 02:42:36,840
surveillance on them for a long
time.

2777
02:42:37,530 --> 02:42:41,670
Adam Curry: What made you listen
to this? I

2778
02:42:41,670 --> 02:42:43,320
John C Dvorak: got into a back
and forth is one of our

2779
02:42:43,320 --> 02:42:44,100
producers.

2780
02:42:44,550 --> 02:42:48,120
Adam Curry: So it's one of the I
love these emails. Like, this is

2781
02:42:48,120 --> 02:42:50,700
great. You got to listen to
this. You got to watch this

2782
02:42:50,700 --> 02:42:53,490
three hour rumble video. Yes,

2783
02:42:53,520 --> 02:42:54,480
John C Dvorak: always rumble

2784
02:42:54,510 --> 02:42:55,380
Adam Curry: and you did it.

2785
02:42:56,250 --> 02:42:58,560
John C Dvorak: I did. So

2786
02:42:59,580 --> 02:43:02,160
Adam Curry: age men, there it
is, again, military age, man.

2787
02:43:02,160 --> 02:43:04,710
Yeah. Same trope. Yeah, this is

2788
02:43:04,710 --> 02:43:07,500
John C Dvorak: it. So total
trope, that people that I have

2789
02:43:07,500 --> 02:43:10,080
the guts to, to make these kinds
of, you know, they leave one

2790
02:43:10,080 --> 02:43:14,010
country and go to another one
way or another. They tends to be

2791
02:43:14,370 --> 02:43:16,710
people in a certain age group,
because you're not going to find

2792
02:43:16,710 --> 02:43:20,730
90 year old man or kids or
anything in between. So it's

2793
02:43:20,730 --> 02:43:25,230
military age men. And so but the
rationale, this is what I have

2794
02:43:25,230 --> 02:43:31,350
these clips, it's the rationale
and the delusion that these guys

2795
02:43:31,350 --> 02:43:35,490
Express, and I hear it from from
our producers that get into this

2796
02:43:35,490 --> 02:43:39,930
too. It's delusional to imagine
that any of these you know this,

2797
02:43:39,930 --> 02:43:43,170
I have clips I have. There's a
guy who has been taking movies,

2798
02:43:43,170 --> 02:43:45,570
I got a million hours of it. It
was

2799
02:43:45,570 --> 02:43:48,570
Adam Curry: the door he was on
Jimmy Dore, it must be real.

2800
02:43:49,530 --> 02:43:49,890
Yes,

2801
02:43:49,890 --> 02:43:52,680
John C Dvorak: exactly. And so I
so I have the and I consider the

2802
02:43:52,680 --> 02:43:55,440
second half of show nuttiness.
Let's go into part two.

2803
02:43:55,560 --> 02:43:58,800
Unknown: Just Just to recap,
you've got you've got evidence

2804
02:43:58,830 --> 02:44:03,420
that these boats that are coming
in, they're only doing that big,

2805
02:44:03,420 --> 02:44:06,330
so to sort of to meet some kind
of or pass through underneath

2806
02:44:06,330 --> 02:44:09,180
some kind of radar in terms of
legislation.

2807
02:44:10,890 --> 02:44:14,340
If you're lost at sea, they're
obliged to save you. And that's

2808
02:44:14,340 --> 02:44:17,820
the idea of them coming over in
small rubber boats. Is they lost

2809
02:44:17,820 --> 02:44:21,870
at sea. That's, that's the
maritime law. Yes. So

2810
02:44:21,870 --> 02:44:26,130
you're saying that these are not
normal, illegal moves,

2811
02:44:26,580 --> 02:44:30,030
if you think about it logically,
and kind of based on common

2812
02:44:30,030 --> 02:44:34,110
sense, if you were fleeing war
and tyranny, I don't know about

2813
02:44:34,110 --> 02:44:36,600
you, but I would certainly take
my wife and children with me

2814
02:44:36,600 --> 02:44:40,320
their most precious, they're my
prized asset. You know, they're

2815
02:44:40,320 --> 02:44:43,350
everything to me. If you're
going to war, you go to war with

2816
02:44:43,350 --> 02:44:47,220
the lads. And that's these young
men are coming over, they going

2817
02:44:47,220 --> 02:44:50,400
to be deployed, they will be
deployed, and people will see

2818
02:44:50,400 --> 02:44:53,220
then, you know, and I don't
doubt there will still be some

2819
02:44:53,220 --> 02:44:55,980
Muppets that will stand on their
doorsteps, bag and pots and

2820
02:44:55,980 --> 02:44:59,460
pans. Do you know, thanking
these young men for helping us

2821
02:44:59,490 --> 02:45:02,460
you know, because As initially
there'll be deployed in what's

2822
02:45:02,670 --> 02:45:06,480
perceived or conveyed as a
humanitarian role. But

2823
02:45:06,510 --> 02:45:09,000
I'm going to tell you something,
I nearly fell off my chair when

2824
02:45:09,000 --> 02:45:11,940
I interviewed this young woman,
his name is Nigel McConnell.

2825
02:45:11,970 --> 02:45:15,420
He's an Irish political
candidate. And I had an

2826
02:45:15,420 --> 02:45:18,060
interview with him a couple of
years ago. And he was telling

2827
02:45:18,060 --> 02:45:21,510
me, and I'd been aware of this,
but he was telling me that these

2828
02:45:21,510 --> 02:45:26,160
illegal migrants are being
recruited for police, that

2829
02:45:26,310 --> 02:45:28,860
they're illegal, right? But
they're going to be given the

2830
02:45:28,890 --> 02:45:32,010
the position of police officers
in Ireland, to face out of

2831
02:45:32,010 --> 02:45:33,270
people and to vote as well.

2832
02:45:33,930 --> 02:45:38,430
Adam Curry: To vote. Oh, my
goodness. You know, if you send

2833
02:45:38,430 --> 02:45:40,740
me one of these links, or it's
like a corporate report, and I

2834
02:45:40,740 --> 02:45:46,110
don't reply to you as corporate
report, it's because we have

2835
02:45:46,110 --> 02:45:51,960
been doing this for 17 years. I
mean, I even got someone the

2836
02:45:51,960 --> 02:45:55,320
other day, you clearly aren't
familiar with the cue strategy.

2837
02:45:57,090 --> 02:45:59,400
John C Dvorak: I mean, that's,
that's still not a brown. Is it?

2838
02:45:59,430 --> 02:45:59,640
You?

2839
02:45:59,640 --> 02:46:03,450
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. And there
was, um, there was because I was

2840
02:46:03,450 --> 02:46:06,030
talking about Trump, like, you
know, he hired all these

2841
02:46:06,030 --> 02:46:10,290
horrible people. He's good at
firing, but he's not good at

2842
02:46:10,290 --> 02:46:13,650
hiring. No, no, no, you'd
understand. That's the cue

2843
02:46:13,650 --> 02:46:20,640
strategy. Keep your enemies even
closer. Oh, okay. Please, this

2844
02:46:20,640 --> 02:46:25,500
is JFK Jr. is going to be his
vice presidential. If JFK Jr. is

2845
02:46:25,500 --> 02:46:30,330
his vice presidential pick, and
JFK Jr. comes back from the

2846
02:46:30,330 --> 02:46:32,790
dead. I will eat my boot.

2847
02:46:33,990 --> 02:46:36,840
John C Dvorak: Well, that's a
that's a bet you. That's yeah,

2848
02:46:36,840 --> 02:46:39,390
you can make these kinds of
assertions because you're the

2849
02:46:39,390 --> 02:46:41,820
chances are zero in hell

2850
02:46:41,820 --> 02:46:44,730
Adam Curry: and Fauci is Mama's
Mother Teresa. I mean, it's

2851
02:46:44,730 --> 02:46:45,930
crazy.

2852
02:46:47,100 --> 02:46:49,470
John C Dvorak: I liked that one.
Yeah. Just

2853
02:46:49,470 --> 02:46:51,930
Adam Curry: look at her face.
And look. Okay, so here's where

2854
02:46:51,930 --> 02:46:54,900
it is the same blue and white
colors from Epstein's islands.

2855
02:46:55,080 --> 02:46:55,470
Uh huh.

2856
02:46:58,410 --> 02:47:00,540
John C Dvorak: So here we go
with the part three and this the

2857
02:47:00,540 --> 02:47:01,440
end on

2858
02:47:01,440 --> 02:47:03,540
Unknown: to vote. That's what
nearly made me fell off my

2859
02:47:03,540 --> 02:47:07,380
chair. Because he said they just
have to be proved that they've

2860
02:47:07,380 --> 02:47:11,010
been living there in any
capacity can be a tent for the

2861
02:47:11,010 --> 02:47:15,870
last six months. Yes. And they
will then be allowed to stand in

2862
02:47:15,900 --> 02:47:18,000
the elections were elected.

2863
02:47:18,090 --> 02:47:22,020
Yes, yes. And your legal
migrants do you want people fine

2864
02:47:22,020 --> 02:47:24,720
facilitating that? You know what
happened to Shin Fein

2865
02:47:27,120 --> 02:47:29,970
one time Shin fit a lot of
people in America who they still

2866
02:47:29,970 --> 02:47:33,450
don't haven't woken up to this
yet. Yeah. One time Shin Fein

2867
02:47:33,450 --> 02:47:36,990
was seen as the political arm of
the IRA. Yes, they were fighting

2868
02:47:36,990 --> 02:47:38,550
for Irish Republic ism, or
whatever.

2869
02:47:39,390 --> 02:47:42,630
They were fighting for Ireland.
And now look, Ireland. Now let's

2870
02:47:42,630 --> 02:47:43,560
destroy an island.

2871
02:47:45,750 --> 02:47:47,190
John C Dvorak: It goes on. Yeah,

2872
02:47:47,220 --> 02:47:49,980
Adam Curry: I can imagine. Well,
you're very brave. You're very

2873
02:47:49,980 --> 02:47:55,170
brave to have sat through all
that. A podcast. I know. I have

2874
02:47:55,170 --> 02:47:59,700
my hopes still high on podcast,
but especially Do you know that?

2875
02:48:00,000 --> 02:48:02,610
Have you been following just as
the last little bit here that

2876
02:48:03,930 --> 02:48:06,750
it's, you know, quote unquote,
Soros. I'm not even sure who

2877
02:48:06,750 --> 02:48:12,390
that is anymore. But the Soros
organization has been getting

2878
02:48:12,390 --> 02:48:17,940
all kinds of waivers from the
FCC to buy Odyssey the Odyssey

2879
02:48:17,940 --> 02:48:20,760
is probably kind of next to I
heart one of the biggest radio

2880
02:48:20,760 --> 02:48:25,290
conglomerates and they got
everybody on there like Oh,

2881
02:48:25,650 --> 02:48:30,210
Kennedy and Mark Levine and all
these guys and so everyone's

2882
02:48:30,210 --> 02:48:33,930
like oh, Soros is he's going to
take or he's going to brew is

2883
02:48:33,930 --> 02:48:40,200
going to get rid of of
conservative voices. Do you not

2884
02:48:40,200 --> 02:48:41,010
been following them?

2885
02:48:41,730 --> 02:48:44,490
John C Dvorak: No, I have not
even heard any of this until you

2886
02:48:44,490 --> 02:48:45,090
right now.

2887
02:48:45,120 --> 02:48:49,050
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. No, it's
It's him. FCC waivers boost

2888
02:48:49,050 --> 02:48:54,720
Soros bid to further silence the
right with Odyssey takeover. And

2889
02:48:54,750 --> 02:49:00,240
so Odyssey has a B flat so they
already put forward they were

2890
02:49:00,240 --> 02:49:03,840
already shareholder. Video The
Odyssey filed for bankruptcy and

2891
02:49:03,840 --> 02:49:08,910
so they put $400 million in the
Soros organization. Weekly the

2892
02:49:08,910 --> 02:49:13,080
network reaches 165 million
listeners. Conservative hosts

2893
02:49:13,110 --> 02:49:16,950
including Sean Hannity, Dana
lash lash, lash lash, loose

2894
02:49:16,950 --> 02:49:23,310
lash, Mark Levin, blush, Glenn
Beck, and Erik Erikson. So the

2895
02:49:23,310 --> 02:49:27,810
thinking here is that he's going
to take them all off the air and

2896
02:49:27,840 --> 02:49:32,550
put on some lefties. And I'm
like, Do you have any idea that

2897
02:49:32,550 --> 02:49:38,040
radio is dead? That median age
of the radio listener is 75.

2898
02:49:38,940 --> 02:49:44,280
This is this is over? No,
podcasting is the future with

2899
02:49:44,280 --> 02:49:45,510
these guys from Ireland.

2900
02:49:46,920 --> 02:49:50,340
John C Dvorak: That's what,
that's what the future's grim.

2901
02:49:50,340 --> 02:49:50,760
However

2902
02:49:50,760 --> 02:49:54,120
Unknown: you look at it. I'm
gonna show my school by donate

2903
02:49:54,210 --> 02:49:57,420
to no agenda. Imagine all the
people who could do that. Oh,

2904
02:49:57,420 --> 02:49:58,320
yeah, that'd be fun.

2905
02:50:05,640 --> 02:50:07,680
Adam Curry: All right, we're
gonna thank everyone who came

2906
02:50:07,680 --> 02:50:10,530
into the shortlist. And when you
came in $50 and above and again,

2907
02:50:10,530 --> 02:50:13,920
we appreciate everybody who
supports the show. If everybody

2908
02:50:13,920 --> 02:50:17,580
supported us with just a couple
dollars a month, it would be it

2909
02:50:17,580 --> 02:50:18,600
would be perfect,

2910
02:50:18,630 --> 02:50:20,550
John C Dvorak: but that there'll
be no sad puppies.

2911
02:50:20,580 --> 02:50:23,700
Adam Curry: Yeah, and but next
we're clubbing a baby seal.

2912
02:50:23,850 --> 02:50:26,370
John, take us through to the 50s
All right, let's

2913
02:50:26,370 --> 02:50:28,350
John C Dvorak: do that. We're
starting with Rose Richardson

2914
02:50:28,350 --> 02:50:37,410
into Tucson Arizona. 15797. From
Oracle YUTAN I'm still jab free.

2915
02:50:37,500 --> 02:50:43,230
There you go. Anyway, she it's a
very complimentary little note

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02:50:43,230 --> 02:50:48,300
from rose. Anonymous in
Columbus, Ohio. 132. Neil

2917
02:50:48,300 --> 02:50:53,010
DeLorean Anderson, Indiana.
111 11. wants a 10 year old

2918
02:50:53,010 --> 02:50:53,850
listener wants

2919
02:50:53,850 --> 02:50:58,500
Adam Curry: a D douching 10 your
listener bow tie. You've been

2920
02:50:58,500 --> 02:51:02,070
deed dude. Thank you. We
appreciate it. Appreciate it.

2921
02:51:02,610 --> 02:51:06,510
John C Dvorak: In Field and 100
Brian Lillard and prosper

2922
02:51:06,540 --> 02:51:15,090
prosper Texas. 8888 Nico last
Oman in Dilworth, Minnesota at

2923
02:51:15,090 --> 02:51:18,420
195 You need some health and
travel karma. We'll give you

2924
02:51:18,420 --> 02:51:22,320
that at the end as we get to
Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke

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of Luna 808 boob, sir tooth
fairy in Valparaiso, Indiana.

2926
02:51:28,560 --> 02:51:33,630
808 is another he also needs
travel karma. All right. Wayne

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Cox in the yield Ville break
yeoville yeoville. UK 69 69k

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yield bill. Zachary chandelle in
Minneapolis, Minnesota, that's a

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switcheroo is credited $63
credited to monger out of Wycoff

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to go hit him in the mouth. You
need to de douching

2931
02:52:00,900 --> 02:52:02,730
Unknown: you've been de deuced

2932
02:52:05,010 --> 02:52:12,090
John C Dvorak: row and coming
Georgia 6190 Matthew l wart in

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Weatherford, Texas 606 Mahboob
air lineman of the net in Anna

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Illinois 5510 Jacob mirfield in
Fitchburg Wisconsin 50 to 72

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Jacob bags in Petaluma for 272
Baron Henry in Rancho Palos

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Verdes days 5242 Israel 30 Those
refitted our donations have been

2937
02:52:39,000 --> 02:52:43,830
added and it's funny that's not
always the same. Sir Richie Rich

2938
02:52:43,830 --> 02:52:47,880
5050 to do 150 Which is means
you're nuts and he's on the

2939
02:52:47,880 --> 02:52:52,020
birthday list. Sir Bob and
coming another one coming

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Georgia we had row and now sir
bomb they should get together 69

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02:52:57,600 --> 02:53:01,800
For us Martin Parts Unknown 5005
and Andrew bands in Imperial

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02:53:01,800 --> 02:53:06,900
Missouri if 5005. Now we have
the 50 pure $50 donors. And

2943
02:53:06,900 --> 02:53:10,770
there's not that many, starting
with Nicholas Ruda, which in

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Harpers Ferry Michael Sikora in
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Farrell in Haverhill,
Massachusetts. There they are

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kinds of stuff that they make.
They make cutting boards that

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are dynamite Redondo Beach,
California, they should send me

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one. Alexa hint. The Alexa
Delgado in Aptos California.

2950
02:53:34,320 --> 02:53:38,340
Last on the list is Michael
stadium. And that's our group of

2951
02:53:39,030 --> 02:53:42,840
supporters for show 1671
shortlist though it made me want

2952
02:53:42,840 --> 02:53:45,060
to thank each and every one of
them. And also

2953
02:53:45,060 --> 02:53:46,890
Adam Curry: again thanks to our
executive and Associate

2954
02:53:46,890 --> 02:53:52,470
Executive producers for episode
1671 relationship karma Nothing

2955
02:53:52,470 --> 02:53:58,200
says that like a go you've got
karma. No agenda donations.com

2956
02:53:58,200 --> 02:54:00,540
is where you can go to become a
no agenda producer.

2957
02:54:06,930 --> 02:54:09,180
Well, it's all pretty short and
sweet. Today. Maryanne

2958
02:54:09,180 --> 02:54:13,050
Schneeberger says Happy Birthday
to Jim her hubby bib Jim. He

2959
02:54:13,050 --> 02:54:16,170
celebrated yesterday Sir
Christopher wishes his wife Kim

2960
02:54:16,380 --> 02:54:19,500
a very happy one she is
celebrating today and Sir Richie

2961
02:54:19,500 --> 02:54:23,820
Rich will celebrate his birthday
on June 25. And we say Happy

2962
02:54:23,820 --> 02:54:26,970
Birthday everybody hear from
everybody here the best podcast

2963
02:54:26,970 --> 02:54:31,200
in the universe. And we can go
straight into the meetups

2964
02:54:31,200 --> 02:54:33,090
because that's it nothing

2965
02:54:40,320 --> 02:54:44,910
we have no no knights no names
no title changes we do have one

2966
02:54:44,910 --> 02:54:47,790
meetup report from the Fort
Worth post summer solstice

2967
02:54:47,790 --> 02:54:53,370
shindig meetup from Sir row
Toyne. He says not set up for

2968
02:54:53,370 --> 02:54:56,460
recording yet so it just written
seven put into center nice

2969
02:54:56,460 --> 02:54:59,040
picture. Seven producers showed
up for an excellent afternoon of

2970
02:54:59,040 --> 02:55:03,000
Saturday. Rest of ration meetup
moved into a smoke filled back

2971
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room where the conversation
continued well into the evening

2972
02:55:05,940 --> 02:55:09,180
ragging on the Libertarian Party
and tips on raising chickens

2973
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were among the topics discussed.
connections were made protection

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secured perfect. You can go to a
meet up today if you're in the

2975
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Netherlands you're probably
there already get on the

2976
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lowlands happy wood near the K U
T. kicked off, kicked off hours

2977
02:55:25,530 --> 02:55:28,920
ago might still be going on and
tilbyr Sir Hendrik organizing

2978
02:55:28,920 --> 02:55:33,090
that the South Florida Margarita
meetup underway now at Linares,

2979
02:55:33,150 --> 02:55:37,290
Alton and Palm Beach Gardens
Florida, the indie na proud

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tribal meet up three o'clock
it's underway as we speak at

2981
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blind owl brewery, Indianapolis,
Indiana. Mark and Maria I hope

2982
02:55:44,340 --> 02:55:47,610
you guys are having a good time
and listening to the show. The

2983
02:55:47,610 --> 02:55:51,330
Kansas City Some Like It Hot
addition meetup 333. underway

2984
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today at Variety KC playground
at Wyandotte. County Park in

2985
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Bonner Springs, Kansas. The
International Canada Navy and

2986
02:56:00,120 --> 02:56:03,750
Finland summit should be
wrapping up now in Helsinki

2987
02:56:03,750 --> 02:56:07,320
stones in Helsinki, Finland.
Very curious if we'll get a meet

2988
02:56:07,320 --> 02:56:10,770
up report from there. And on
Tuesday, the backyard social at

2989
02:56:10,800 --> 02:56:14,490
Clovis California at the
backyard Social Club and let's

2990
02:56:14,490 --> 02:56:18,120
see what else do we have on the
list June 28. Houston, Texas on

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the 29th North Jersey Rhode
Island Westland Oregon Dallas,

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Texas Los Angeles, Dayton, Ohio,
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Fremantle, Western Australia,
the sixth Amsterdam North

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Holland in the Netherlands,
McKinney, Texas on the 12th

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Garden City, Idaho The 13th The
14th Rabbit hash, Kentucky and

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Keene New Hampshire on the 20th
Lansing Michigan, Santa Rosa,

2997
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California, San Diego,
California The 21st Palm Beach

2998
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Gardens Florida. On the 27th
Ironton Minnesota the 28th

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Trinidad and Tobago please send
a report from there in the 28th

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to Amsterdam again, August we're
gonna go with it August Keyport.

3001
02:56:57,120 --> 02:57:00,060
New Jersey on the 11th and
Albany California John in your

3002
02:57:00,060 --> 02:57:03,060
backyard on the 17th These are
the no agenda meetups, you can

3003
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find them but no agenda
meetups.com They are producer

3004
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organized. It is a great place
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3005
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something in common there's
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ever. People love getting
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protection. No agenda meetup.com
Go there find one was there one

3008
02:57:24,870 --> 02:57:34,680
Unknown: day days, you will be
triggered. You will be buddy

3009
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feels the same.

3010
02:57:38,430 --> 02:57:44,610
John C Dvorak: It's like a like
a pot. Alright,

3011
02:57:44,970 --> 02:57:46,350
Adam Curry: you got any ISOs?

3012
02:57:46,980 --> 02:57:52,830
John C Dvorak: I do I have too
much you got? I got cannot I

3013
02:57:52,830 --> 02:57:59,460
cannot do it again. Okay. And
then I got Trump saying not too

3014
02:57:59,460 --> 02:58:01,140
good. That's too good.

3015
02:58:03,360 --> 02:58:07,680
Adam Curry: I have let me see. I
think I'm over. I sewed

3016
02:58:07,680 --> 02:58:14,880
actually, here's the Arnold. He
was boring. No, or I hated every

3017
02:58:14,880 --> 02:58:15,990
minute of it. Come on.

3018
02:58:17,070 --> 02:58:18,780
John C Dvorak: That's a good
one. That's pretty good.

3019
02:58:20,730 --> 02:58:27,270
Adam Curry: Also have How did
this get in here? That got in

3020
02:58:27,270 --> 02:58:30,300
there that shouldn't be there.
That, by the way, is a woman

3021
02:58:30,300 --> 02:58:32,940
who's bringing America back
together. There's this one

3022
02:58:39,630 --> 02:58:45,420
Unknown: and this one, yes.
That's right. That's true. Yeah.

3023
02:58:46,950 --> 02:58:48,840
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
like to use negative ones. But

3024
02:58:48,840 --> 02:58:52,260
from Schwarzenegger. I like the
I hated every minute of it.

3025
02:58:52,290 --> 02:58:53,790
Unknown: I hated every minute of
it.

3026
02:58:54,930 --> 02:58:57,570
John C Dvorak: That's kind of
clear, crisp. I think we should

3027
02:58:57,570 --> 02:58:59,910
you know, we have our mixed
feelings about that guy.

3028
02:59:00,960 --> 02:59:06,330
Adam Curry: And for your
consideration of the day. That's

3029
02:59:06,330 --> 02:59:09,840
right. Everybody has time once
again for the tip of the day.

3030
02:59:09,840 --> 02:59:13,620
Jhansi Dvorak, what do you have
in store for us?

3031
02:59:14,910 --> 02:59:18,420
John C Dvorak: So you know, one
of the things about the shows I

3032
02:59:18,570 --> 02:59:23,760
uncomfortable with Oh, is there
are ragging on vaccines on the

3033
02:59:23,760 --> 02:59:28,170
backs on the COVID shot, the
mRNA shot uncomfortable

3034
02:59:28,170 --> 02:59:29,190
Adam Curry: with that. I'm

3035
02:59:29,190 --> 02:59:31,470
John C Dvorak: uncomfortable
knowing that at least half of

3036
02:59:31,470 --> 02:59:33,420
our audience has taken this
shot.

3037
02:59:34,080 --> 02:59:35,280
Adam Curry: Okay, fair enough.

3038
02:59:35,760 --> 02:59:39,840
John C Dvorak: So I have so
Peter McCullough has a protocol

3039
02:59:40,140 --> 02:59:44,160
for ridding yourself of the
after effects of the shot. Yes,

3040
02:59:44,430 --> 02:59:46,650
yeah, we've kind of discussed
what we've never fully

3041
02:59:46,650 --> 02:59:50,820
discussed. So I decided just to
link to it. And my tip is for

3042
02:59:50,820 --> 02:59:53,280
people who had the shot to go
look at the protocol and see

3043
02:59:53,280 --> 02:59:59,490
what it is and read about it and
it's easy to get to it's it's on

3044
02:59:59,490 --> 03:00:01,830
the web. It's under, you could
type this into check to make

3045
03:00:01,830 --> 03:00:06,240
sure it works. Tiny. You are
l.com. We all know that

3046
03:00:06,540 --> 03:00:14,190
tinyurl.com/no-agenda No hyphen
agenda. Oh,

3047
03:00:14,190 --> 03:00:16,800
Adam Curry: excellent. Now you
just you produce something.

3048
03:00:16,800 --> 03:00:17,430
That's good.

3049
03:00:17,520 --> 03:00:21,570
John C Dvorak: I pray. Yes, I
did. Nice. And so go there and

3050
03:00:21,570 --> 03:00:27,180
read that. And then if you you
know, this way, I think I think

3051
03:00:27,180 --> 03:00:30,300
it's a I think the protocol
sounds possible. It sounds like

3052
03:00:30,300 --> 03:00:34,230
a winner. McCullough is the one
who developed it. And I think it

3053
03:00:34,230 --> 03:00:37,050
might be something people should
be aware of.

3054
03:00:37,110 --> 03:00:41,610
Adam Curry: I like this idea.
And so it's tiny URL, or no tiny

3055
03:00:41,610 --> 03:00:42,360
What is it again?

3056
03:00:42,750 --> 03:00:49,470
John C Dvorak: tinyurl.com/no.
Agenda? No, dash agenda? No, no

3057
03:00:49,470 --> 03:00:53,580
data agenda. Okay. Yeah, I gave
the regular no agendas at work.

3058
03:00:53,790 --> 03:00:55,080
I'd like that. Because

3059
03:00:55,590 --> 03:00:59,880
Adam Curry: I know people here
in town who were forced to take

3060
03:00:59,880 --> 03:01:03,780
the vaccine. And they are they
have done this protocol. There's

3061
03:01:03,780 --> 03:01:06,840
several functional medicine
doctors here in town who are

3062
03:01:07,020 --> 03:01:09,930
administering this protocol. And
from what I hear with great

3063
03:01:09,930 --> 03:01:12,870
success, whatever that means
people are doing it. And I think

3064
03:01:12,870 --> 03:01:13,860
that's a great idea.

3065
03:01:14,220 --> 03:01:17,250
John C Dvorak: And it's all it's
public domain products is not

3066
03:01:17,250 --> 03:01:20,160
like you have to go get a
prescription. And

3067
03:01:20,160 --> 03:01:22,500
Adam Curry: I've also heard
people just taking ivermectin

3068
03:01:22,530 --> 03:01:26,040
just on a, like a regular basis.
Yeah.

3069
03:01:26,520 --> 03:01:30,060
John C Dvorak: for the heck of
it. I think just the color and

3070
03:01:30,060 --> 03:01:33,960
this protocol, I think is
probably better. Yeah. Unless

3071
03:01:33,960 --> 03:01:37,560
you have worms, then you
ivermectin do the trick.

3072
03:01:38,550 --> 03:01:42,870
Unknown: Good news. It's good
advice. John sees two.

3073
03:01:45,660 --> 03:01:49,110
Adam Curry: Beautiful, beautiful
at the end of another broadcast

3074
03:01:49,110 --> 03:01:55,320
day. Not on Odyssey No, we can't
be taken over by Soros. But we

3075
03:01:55,320 --> 03:02:02,910
will club a baby seal if you
don't support us. Film and 11 we

3076
03:02:02,910 --> 03:02:07,410
have end of show mixes from Judd
Holly Professor Jay Jones and

3077
03:02:07,410 --> 03:02:13,290
David kept up coming up for you.
And if you want to stay tuned to

3078
03:02:13,290 --> 03:02:18,120
troll room.io no agenda dot
stream. Coming up next we have

3079
03:02:18,120 --> 03:02:23,100
the millennial media offensive.
This is episode 125. You

3080
03:02:23,100 --> 03:02:25,740
definitely want to check these
kids out because they are

3081
03:02:25,740 --> 03:02:29,070
millennials and their do
immediate offensive and their

3082
03:02:29,070 --> 03:02:33,120
value for value. So why not
coming to you from the heart of

3083
03:02:33,120 --> 03:02:37,020
the Texas Hill Country. Right
here in Fredericksburg, Texas in

3084
03:02:37,020 --> 03:02:39,000
the morning everybody. I'm Adam
curry

3085
03:02:39,060 --> 03:02:42,720
John C Dvorak: it from Northern
Silicon Valley where it's kinda

3086
03:02:42,720 --> 03:02:44,970
chilly. I'm Jhansi Dvorak we
return

3087
03:02:44,970 --> 03:02:47,970
Adam Curry: on Thursday debate
nights of course it's a show day

3088
03:02:47,970 --> 03:02:51,990
they know what they're doing
over there and in political land

3089
03:02:51,990 --> 03:02:55,470
in DC Jake Tapper is going to
save the day. We'll get you

3090
03:02:55,470 --> 03:02:59,160
ready for remember us had no
agenda donations.com until

3091
03:02:59,160 --> 03:03:04,290
Thursday adios mofos Hui Hui,
and such

3092
03:03:10,410 --> 03:03:12,930
Of course, they passed out the
memo to the as you pointed out

3093
03:03:13,380 --> 03:03:14,310
the stages.

3094
03:03:15,480 --> 03:03:18,210
Unknown: There is so much
misinformation disinformation as

3095
03:03:18,210 --> 03:03:21,420
we've been caught talking about
the president wandering

3096
03:03:21,810 --> 03:03:26,880
big fakes videos. These videos
are effective because they are

3097
03:03:26,910 --> 03:03:27,210
difficult

3098
03:03:27,210 --> 03:03:29,970
to fix for reasons the President
wandering

3099
03:03:31,260 --> 03:03:36,030
means John Pierre and others are
calling these cheap fakes cheap

3100
03:03:36,030 --> 03:03:39,150
fakes. We're hearing about some
called shoe fakes,

3101
03:03:39,390 --> 03:03:43,500
the president wandering, even
calling it's literally

3102
03:03:43,500 --> 03:03:45,840
John C Dvorak: describing what
CBS News has been doing for

3103
03:03:45,840 --> 03:03:48,720
years. Where was the

3104
03:03:51,000 --> 03:03:52,380
Unknown: president wandering?

3105
03:03:53,460 --> 03:03:54,990
John C Dvorak: This is so
misleading.

3106
03:03:58,200 --> 03:04:02,130
Unknown: Video, however, we have
seen last few months the videos

3107
03:04:02,130 --> 03:04:05,400
targeting Biden are getting a
lot more traction online. This

3108
03:04:05,400 --> 03:04:07,770
is trying to last us wandering
off.

3109
03:04:14,190 --> 03:04:16,620
But what about Biden who
believes he is fit to lead us?

3110
03:04:16,830 --> 03:04:19,710
That's a really good question.
Oh, absolutely.

3111
03:04:19,830 --> 03:04:22,740
People have been watching. They
express concerns about your

3112
03:04:22,740 --> 03:04:23,640
mental immunity.

3113
03:04:23,640 --> 03:04:29,250
They say that you are too old.
Come on, man. Want to go with

3114
03:04:29,250 --> 03:04:32,760
the evidence and the truth, the
very public and obvious

3115
03:04:32,760 --> 03:04:36,240
cognitive decline of the US
President? The President is

3116
03:04:36,540 --> 03:04:41,520
walking away and there was not
one thing funny about it. Oh,

3117
03:04:41,520 --> 03:04:47,250
absolutely. Because I know what
mental illness looks like. I'm

3118
03:04:47,250 --> 03:04:54,810
serious. There is no shame in
being unwell. Dr. Joe Biden.

3119
03:04:54,840 --> 03:04:59,130
Where are you? What mental
illness look? I watched a man

3120
03:04:59,130 --> 03:05:04,560
completely void of all awareness
that is your judgment aimlessly

3121
03:05:04,560 --> 03:05:08,520
wandering away. Oh, absolutely
what mental illness looks like.

3122
03:05:09,870 --> 03:05:14,850
We've entered a new era series.
There is no way in hell Joe

3123
03:05:14,850 --> 03:05:16,380
Biden is running America.

3124
03:05:17,850 --> 03:05:20,640
Judgment. We want to go with the
evidence and the truth.

3125
03:05:20,730 --> 03:05:24,390
The claim to this tragedy lies
squarely on the people around

3126
03:05:24,390 --> 03:05:27,120
him. But what about but I do
believe he is fit to lead us?

3127
03:05:27,210 --> 03:05:32,910
No, I'm serious. Mental illness
look aimlessly wandering away

3128
03:05:32,940 --> 03:05:36,720
the very public and obvious
cognitive decline for US

3129
03:05:36,720 --> 03:05:37,830
president that

3130
03:05:37,830 --> 03:05:39,990
is your judgment. There is

3131
03:05:39,990 --> 03:05:44,850
no shame in being unwell. The
President is seen walking away

3132
03:05:45,840 --> 03:05:51,630
No, I'm serious. Because I know
what mental illness looks like.

3133
03:05:53,940 --> 03:05:57,150
Chill Dr. Jill Biden where are
you?

3134
03:05:57,810 --> 03:05:59,340
That's a really great question.

3135
03:05:59,940 --> 03:06:00,810
No, I'm serious

3136
03:06:00,840 --> 03:06:06,030
what mental illness looks like
and there is not one thing funny

3137
03:06:06,060 --> 03:06:06,720
about it.

3138
03:06:06,810 --> 03:06:08,610
Oh absolutely. Come on.

3139
03:06:10,080 --> 03:06:12,840
Because I know what mental
illness looks like

3140
03:06:24,420 --> 03:06:25,350
at one of the most

3141
03:06:42,450 --> 03:06:43,800
Adam Curry: I love this whole
topic

3142
03:06:49,980 --> 03:06:55,320
Unknown: they are here to face
video for jobs. Earlier

3143
03:06:55,320 --> 03:07:01,140
obviously the fact checkers have
repeatedly caught on pushing

3144
03:07:01,140 --> 03:07:06,480
misinformation disinformation.
Bias is just something coming

3145
03:07:07,110 --> 03:07:10,320
from Europe your part of the
world calling them and she makes

3146
03:07:10,470 --> 03:07:11,220
misinformation.

3147
03:07:17,670 --> 03:07:24,960
misinformation. Oh no. Really
believing what was being said

3148
03:07:24,960 --> 03:07:26,190
and what was the scene

3149
03:07:32,700 --> 03:07:33,210
what they are

3150
03:07:38,850 --> 03:07:45,750
borak.org/n A I hated every
minute of it.