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John C Dvorak: How Israeli is
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Unknown: Adam curry, John C.
Devora.

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Adam Curry: June 16 2024. This
is your award winning

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combination media assassination
episode 1669. This

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Unknown: is no agenda.
Celebrating

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Adam Curry: dad's and
broadcasting live from 11 feet

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below sea level from Schiphol
Airport in the Netherlands in

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the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,

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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where we all want

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to get rid of the term on sweet.
I'm Jessie

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Unknown: Buzzkill.

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Adam Curry: I love it. There's
at least a two second delay.

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It's great. The opening was not
as tight as you think it was.

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Unknown: Okay. We'll move on
leg.

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Adam Curry: Oh, is that what it
is? Like? Yes. Well, here I am.

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John. 11 feet below sea level at
at the airport. And you feel the

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pressure? No, no. And honestly,
it was supposed to rain this

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entire week. Today is an
absolutely gorgeous day.

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Surprise warming. Surprisingly,
yes, surprise. It's

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John C Dvorak: funny. They can't
predicted weather very

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accurately, but yet.

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Adam Curry: I know. I know. We
had we had the big meetup here.

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Yesterday.

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Unknown: How they go, dude.

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Adam Curry: Dude, dude, it was
this is one of the best meetups

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I've ever been to. It was. It

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John C Dvorak: was embarrassing.
The Carnival that they set up

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for you in Texas?

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Adam Curry: It was up there. I
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know, obviously Indianapolis is
good. The the Bastrop meet up

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was good. There was 115
producers and they had to chop

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it off at 115 because the fire
marshal said we couldn't have

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more people than 115 and it was
it was good. I mean, we had no

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agenda. Producers come in early
Valtor. And Ruth they they they

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organized everything at this
place called Cafe Dolch merch

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which is really a like a podcast
studio but then with a whole

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like a whole bar and meeting
place connected to it. And and

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they they brought food or
different kinds of curries that

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was pulled pork. I don't know if
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have sent you a link below
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John C Dvorak: don't know. When
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be different curries. You said
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Adam Curry: boy. Did you see the
video I took of the amygdala PCR

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machine, one of the producers
put together? No, oh, you've got

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to see that. So it's it looks
like he posted. I think on

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Twitter, probably. You can look
it up real quick. I tell you

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this, it kind of looks like a
little mini kiosk it was

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completely built with a screen
and a receipt printer and a hole

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on the front. And it says you
know, put your finger in the

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hole and then had this it had
multiple versions of it. But the

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screen went by analyzing your
amygdala spinning up PCR cycles,

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sending off your vaccine status
and this whole thing and then at

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the end, says pull your finger
out. And then it prints out a

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little receipt that was your
amygdala passport. And the whole

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thing was fantastic. It was just
one of those creative things

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that they do over here.

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Unknown: You haven't looked at
Oh, have you? Like look, I

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John C Dvorak: don't have a
Twitter account on this podcast

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on computer. I keep it isolated.
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Adam Curry: need to have a
Twitter account on your show on

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your show rig dude. Dude, you're
right, dude. They had the roll

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up JCD poster. They had a whole
sound system and Frank aka Mike

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I think he was the he was
spinning tunes everyone's dance

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and we had the no agenda jingle
bingo, which I had never

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witnessed before. But the
handout cards with all the

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different indoor jingles that
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forgotten. And you know, that
prizes, which included stuff

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like boxes of mac and cheese and
screaming goats and it was very

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thoughtful. And I would say the
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thanking some people later
because everyone heard what you

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said. When they gave a donation
they put it in an envelope with

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a note came up personally, I
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everybody spoke with everybody.
I was there from, I don't know

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four until 11. It was it was a
long, long day, especially since

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I've just flown in from Texas.
But the camaraderie of these

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people here we have no idea how
bad it was here during the COVID

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lockdowns. Remember, they had
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stuff. You couldn't go anywhere
without a QR code that showed

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you at it. You know, you're
vaccinated. And this is a tight

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group. It's so Almost, it's kind
of like they went through some

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traumatic World War event
together. You laugh, but it's,

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in a way, it's sad. It's like it
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bad. And of course, they had a
raffle and we'll be thanking

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that executive producer later
on. And I would say that too.

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There's a lot of people I met
Taunton nail, Walter, I'll talk

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about later, who I guess had met
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when she was 13. At some, some
showbiz event I was doing but

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the cool guys who had who had
not met before was code monkey

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Tim, who did our wet who does
our website and also did the No,

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no agenda dot stream and
OYSTEIN. Bear her, you know him

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from, from the from the donation
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John C Dvorak: I know him from
pronouncing his name wrong. Nine

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out of 10 times.

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Adam Curry: So Matt, imagine
like a Viking who is nine feet

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tall, has the whole beard and
you know, like the red beard and

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the mustache and everything. And
he's but He's thin. He's he's

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really thin. And he's kind of
he's an alien. His dancing was

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more like Body Slam kind of mosh
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I'll talk about some of the
other producers who were there.

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Because a lot of people donated
and it was really he was a great

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time. Thank you. Thank you to
the very tight, no agenda

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community here in the
Netherlands. People came from

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from north from south. Some even
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to be here. It was great. It was
groovy. So I really haven't left

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the airport. I do have a quick
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John C Dvorak: I think we've all
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travel report if it's
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Adam Curry: It's short. It's
it's more because of the just

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how smooth it was. I was a bit
concerned I was flying on United

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Airlines. It was the cheapest
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to Amsterdam for some reason,
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if you want to direct flight,
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three times as expensive and
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okay, and I looked at San
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Antonio to Houston. And from
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the airline that has a CEO is
the dude in the dress. It was on

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a Boeing Boeing triple seven. So
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you know, there's only two
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happen. I have to say,
everything was fantastic. The

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connection was smooth. It was I
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when I got to Houston almost
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boarding the cabin personnel
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bright. Just excited to see me.

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John C Dvorak: It was a day did
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Adam Curry: the guys could have
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you know, I really expected it
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reporting like, what was going
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John C Dvorak: Well, that's good
to know. Yeah. Because United is

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the main carrier out of San
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you hit the report over the
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like the Chinese have been
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Adam Curry: I have a clip. I
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John C Dvorak: one please. Yes
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Adam Curry: Here we go. Yes, I
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Unknown: turbulence for Boeing.
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along with Airbus are staring
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have used counterfeit titanium
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according to evidence from a
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a Federal Aviation
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Spirit aero system alleges that
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titanium in their planes that
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have been falsified. Today's
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for Boeing, which has been the
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investigations for many safety
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John C Dvorak: You go, they left
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Adam Curry: Well, I'm glad
you're here to tell us that fake

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John C Dvorak: titanium came
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they're the ones who folded up
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we'd mentioned that. And
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in for aircraft generally
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we've boycotted we can't take
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take the fake stuff from China
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Adam Curry: no, that's not what
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of the story. They did not
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sounded like NBC, or ABC. The
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really only two things.
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the UEFA Cup is on and
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that yours listening to the show
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earlier and thinks Slovenia is
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John C Dvorak: oh, I don't want
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Adam Curry: And then the g7 a
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hotel seems to have 8000
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kind of different. You get
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including Well, French,
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do a German version, which I'd
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German version, something's
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news was, except for one report
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dominated by migration and
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there's been much talk about a
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were met. They were that Ukraine
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to join NATO. Western leaders
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for Ukraine to capitulate with
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offensive to common sense. So

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Adam Curry: that's pretty much
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John C Dvorak: We got that story
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Adam Curry: It's so weird
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have us stateside, they talk
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and money. And they just say you
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leaders trying to send a strong
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Putin signing a 10 year security
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help train and equip Ukraine's
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this strongest agreement within
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g7 leaders today also agreeing
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assets to lend Ukraine $50
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sanctions against banks in
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business with Russia, the
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he cannot divide us. And we will
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President Solinsky Chinese
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that he wouldn't sell weapons to
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China is not supplying weapons,
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weapons and the technology
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Adam Curry: So that was that was
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the although it's not really in
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well, you know, if Russia I
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to play with the big boys, you
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sanctioned or anything like we
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Unknown: the g7 briefly became
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invited 18 heads of state and
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We will never accept the
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Turkey's president Reggie of
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Mediterranean issues. On the
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Adam Curry: that was a little
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John C Dvorak: I have a three by
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Adam Curry: We had some
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on the ball as I should be.
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Adam Curry: three All right
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while it's been a hot minutes
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John C Dvorak: Well let's start
with Selena wind is all about

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world leaders sharing a tender
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Gaza and the war in Ukraine
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to address the g7 delivering a
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intelligence, urging the leaders
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guardrails, saying, quote, we
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future without hope, by dooming
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civilian casualties in Gaza is
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Adam Curry: So who put together
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John C Dvorak: You're asking the
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Adam Curry: Jimmy Kimmel. I
mean, Chris Rock, Okay, how

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about to ask any but like real
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and Joe Rogan could put them on
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John C Dvorak: there's Rory
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Even though Rogen is a Democrat,
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hasn't followed a party line to
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Adam Curry: he's no good.
Goldberg when's the last time

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John C Dvorak: She hasn't done
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exactly. I saw actually saw her
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Adam Curry: You see all right.

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John C Dvorak: She did the kind
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this before where you kind of
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on it on something you made up
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know when you get on an airline
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seats are plaid. It's just the
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plaid, what are these guys? Are
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Adam Curry: That's 1980s Like
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John C Dvorak: It's like, well,
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seats that I remember. And then
to riff on something that

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doesn't exist, which is what she
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with all kinds of observational
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observational at all was made.
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Adam Curry: was lies. There are
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John C Dvorak: classic. Onward
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Unknown: Tonight President Biden
wrapping up the g7 summit in

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Italy after a private meeting
with Pope Francis. The

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President, a devout Catholic
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other g7 leaders, the pope
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guardrails for AI guardrails,
FTP, totally artificial

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intelligence. It's a fascinating
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He says the pope using his
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hosting a gathering of more than
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Vatican, including Balan Whoopi
Goldberg and Chris Rock among

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others, telling them in the
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you have the power to spread
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Adam Curry: no, we're lost. I'm
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sense peace and smiles.

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John C Dvorak: Whoo. If they
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comedians, why did they name the
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Adam Curry: Where's Clooney?
Clooney should have been there.

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If there were actors with JLo
Where's Beyonce? I'm not used to

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John C Dvorak: meeting questions
that I can't answer um, I'm just

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either way Did you see the video
of Biden going up to the Pope

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and then banging his head
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Adam Curry: the pope have to
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John C Dvorak: With that little
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Adam Curry: on the top of his
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John C Dvorak: little vein goes
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definitely he banged him in the
forehead and he didn't he kept

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his head against his his start
chatting with him now and was

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very bizarre was on Tik Tok. The
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anything like that. To get good
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Adam Curry: here on infinite
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Biden wandering off when those
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that disappointed me and she
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what was Georgia Maloney doing
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John C Dvorak: he likes it. am
I've seen this before Maloney.

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evil eye the sting, to Murcia
McCrone I saw that one, but But

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when she runs into Binus, like
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she's She seems very protective.

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Adam Curry: Oh, and then
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in on it. So she she turns him
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over here. And everyone then
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stand behind Biden. Oh, yeah.
Okay. Yeah, we're looking from

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this vantage point. That's
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John C Dvorak: It was pretty
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final clip was just CBS and
Nancy Cordis

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his concerns about artificial
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chance to challenge the pontiff
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here to establish stronger
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development of AI and to ban so
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the autonomous weapons systems
can choose their targets using

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sensors with no human guidance
at all. We'll be showing you the

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data. We need to ensure proper
human control over the choices

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made by AI programs. He warned.
Human Dignity itself depends on

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it. The Pope was an early
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generated deep fake of him and a
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last year. But that's just one
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the potentially troubling
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Adam Curry: the pope in a puffer
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Unknown: an executive order last
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developers to share their safety
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government. The Pope's stress
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never truly be replicated by a
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point. He posted this photo from
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than 100 comics, and comedians.
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Chris Rock, Jimmy Fallon, he
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because laughter is contagious.
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Adam Curry: he should have said
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That would have been funny, but
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far from from the other topics.
We just want to switch back to

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John C Dvorak: I want to before
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that clip. Sure. What kind of
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Adam Curry: Well, the safety
test I'm asking you I'm gonna

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tell you the safety test is that
people aren't confused when you

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use the new what's the what's
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software that came out when you
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these contorted three three
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squashed together? Have you seen
this? Yeah, it's what's the not

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Dali but what's the other?
What's the other big image?

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Journeys one? Oh, it's one troll
room helped me out. It's like

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all everyone's talking about
it's it's it's the whole thing

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is a mess.

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John C Dvorak: It was talking
about Star Wars.

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Adam Curry: Everybody
everybody's talking about if

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there's a will there's entire
Reddit of people. People posting

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these images. This whole thing
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version. Yeah. But what's.

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John C Dvorak: How is that
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Adam Curry: That's what I mean.
There's nothing unsafe. It just

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doesn't work. So oh, it's
unsafe. It's in the lab. The

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stuff in the lab is what's
unsafe? Oh, no, I'm sorry. It's

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not Mira Marathi. Since you took
us there. The Chief Technology

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Officer of open AI. What do you
think the quote? What are the

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qualifications of someone who
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What are the things you kind of
need to know? Do

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John C Dvorak: you have to have
owned an apple to pay as you go?

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Adam Curry: here's her whole
career. She won a scholarship

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and attended Pearson, United
World College of the Pacific and

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Canada. Graduated 2005. Then she
pursued a dual degree in the

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United States, bachelor of arts
and mathematics from Colby. And

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then she went

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John C Dvorak: James Colby, the
CIA guy. No.

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Adam Curry: And then she has her
first job was, I think it was

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Tesla. So she was in Tesla. And
then she goes to open AI. So

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like, I don't know if she's a
coder, might be by buses. I'm

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John C Dvorak: like it.

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Adam Curry: So here's what she
said recently about the immune

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all the dangerous stuff that
they have in the lab

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Unknown: inside the labs. We
have this capable models and

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have, you know they're not that
far ahead from what the public

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has access to, for free? Well

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Adam Curry: hold on a second. If
it's if it's not that far ahead,

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and how can it be so much more
dangerous? I haven't seen

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anything frightening from what's
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Unknown: And that's a completely
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bringing technology into the
world that

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we're in. Sure.

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John C Dvorak: What's his
accent? She's got a Canadian.

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Adam Curry: He's Albanian. Now,
okay.

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Unknown: Oh, Albania, Albania.
And yes, we've

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seen historically. And it's a
great opportunity because it

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brings people along it gives
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capabilities and risks, and
allows people to prepare for the

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advent of this world, bringing
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Adam Curry: I think I think
she's actually reading from chit

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chat GBT.

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Unknown: And obviously the
opportunity. So

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John C Dvorak: she's saying
nothing. What is she saying is

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opportunity and risk and blah,
blah, blah, you're actually

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using words out,

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Adam Curry: you're using Tina's
favorite word, word salad.

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which is they probably train the

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Unknown: And obviously, the
opportunities are huge. Now it's

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normal, that which you are, we
talk a lot about the risks,

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because they're so important.
But also, we wouldn't do this if

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we didn't believe that the
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Adam Curry: blah, blah, blah.
There's nothing huge. She said

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that. That's what you do as a as
Chief Technology Officer, you

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use blah. Alright, so now,

448
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John C Dvorak: so she's the CTO.
Was CTO is generally speaking

449
00:26:42,090 --> 00:26:46,440
are people that can code. Yeah.
Or at least know something other

450
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,910
than word salads. Yeah.

451
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:49,890
Adam Curry: No cheese that

452
00:26:49,890 --> 00:26:50,910
John C Dvorak: does something
fishy

453
00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:53,940
Adam Curry: about this one? No,
the whole, the whole operation

454
00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:59,850
is fishy. The whole all you have
to sign this, this NDA forever.

455
00:27:00,150 --> 00:27:05,460
And you can never ever talk
about how lame it is. That's all

456
00:27:05,460 --> 00:27:07,470
it is. Oh, we'll give you all
this money. Just don't tell

457
00:27:07,470 --> 00:27:11,670
anybody the truth. It doesn't
work. I mean, it works for

458
00:27:11,670 --> 00:27:16,290
coding. Every whenever I say
doesn't work I give you. I use

459
00:27:16,290 --> 00:27:20,430
GitHub co pilot it rocks. Okay.
Sure.

460
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:24,600
John C Dvorak: I'm sure Adam
crappies adam@curry.com. That's

461
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,830
the address. Yeah,

462
00:27:25,860 --> 00:27:29,130
Adam Curry: I mean, it does. I'm
sure it works great for him.

463
00:27:29,130 --> 00:27:29,280
They

464
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John C Dvorak: basically,
actually, you're talking to the

465
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real coders, and we've gotten
notes and you know it now, you

466
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,900
know, we both know it. It
doesn't work, right. It just

467
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:40,680
works. It works. It works. Yeah.
It's useful. Yeah. You don't

468
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,280
need to fill in the gaps to put
your crap code out for you to

469
00:27:44,550 --> 00:27:46,110
actually run the program. Now,

470
00:27:46,140 --> 00:27:48,720
Adam Curry: here's what's
interesting, Martin. He's from

471
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,920
Denmark, and he's in the
podcasting 2.0 group. And he he

472
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:55,800
used to be a full time coder at
his day job. And now he's

473
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,320
management, probably middle
manager, but he's management.

474
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And he says, It's really
amazing. Because when I get

475
00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:07,710
RFPs, which is usually a PDF, I
just run it into Chad GPT. And

476
00:28:07,710 --> 00:28:11,820
it fills in the RFP, and then he
can adjust things later. And he

477
00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:15,810
says, It's really weird, because
he's pretty sure the RFPs are

478
00:28:15,810 --> 00:28:22,020
also generated by a chat GPT
type AI. So we really have

479
00:28:22,050 --> 00:28:23,790
Unknown: to use a computer. Yes.

480
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,740
Adam Curry: Yes. Which I think
really, ultimately, the savings,

481
00:28:28,770 --> 00:28:31,170
we're going to find out the
savings is you can get rid of

482
00:28:31,170 --> 00:28:35,100
all middle management. Just
don't need any of that. That may

483
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:37,530
be where the savings is. And
that may be why people are

484
00:28:37,530 --> 00:28:41,520
afraid. Because if there's
anything, certainly in corporate

485
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:47,760
life, but also academia, middle
management is fat. We can clean

486
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,990
up a lot of that.

487
00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:52,680
John C Dvorak: I just thought
oh, that's it. That's actually

488
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,170
that is worth the price of the
show.

489
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,300
Adam Curry: All right. Good
night, everybody.

490
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,740
Unknown: Thanks for coming
along.

491
00:28:58,770 --> 00:29:04,470
Adam Curry: See you later. Back
to Russia Ukraine. So I did read

492
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:07,470
a transcript and I actually
tried to pull a clip of Putin

493
00:29:07,470 --> 00:29:11,730
explaining his peace deal which
is pretty much hey let's let's

494
00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:15,960
stop fighting and we'll keep
we'll keep the port and we'll

495
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,530
keep keep Odessa you know with
the Odessa people they want it

496
00:29:19,530 --> 00:29:23,370
to be with us we did a vote. But
we want this Don Bosco show

497
00:29:23,370 --> 00:29:27,000
Crimea that Crimea. I'm sorry.
We want we want the Donbass

498
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region is an essence what'd he
say? And why? Well, we have a

499
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:35,160
boots on the ground boots on the
ground comes to us from sparkles

500
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of chaos, who says I did some
research and sent a couple of I

501
00:29:41,340 --> 00:29:44,100
don't know if it's a he or she
sent some pages that I have read

502
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:49,140
on Ukraine mining geology in the
war zones. I used to work as a

503
00:29:49,140 --> 00:29:54,930
geoscientist. So I put on my
Pebble pin Pat and and took a

504
00:29:54,930 --> 00:29:57,630
look. Do we have the best
producers in the world or what?

505
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:01,530
This is this is part of why they
no agenda shows is the best

506
00:30:01,530 --> 00:30:05,130
podcast in the universe. In the
industry for projects the first

507
00:30:05,130 --> 00:30:08,280
place I would look for any
international domestic related

508
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,520
papers on job geology would be
the SPE Society of Petroleum

509
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,840
Engineers, USGS or state
Geological Survey international

510
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,320
use the SP great resource to
find papers and information. And

511
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,650
below is an executive summary
from the last document I found

512
00:30:22,650 --> 00:30:26,550
from the 2023 report made for
investment opportunities in

513
00:30:26,550 --> 00:30:29,700
exploration and production made
by the Ukraine Geological

514
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:34,560
Society, what are the chances is
the executive summary to begin

515
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,470
the document list out the
critical raw materials such as

516
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lithium titanium, zirconium,
nickel, cobalt, Chrome, Mo molar

517
00:30:42,660 --> 00:30:46,260
molybdenum denim, what is
molybdenum? molybdenum? What is

518
00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:48,870
moleben? molybdenum is a it's
like an amygdala.

519
00:30:49,410 --> 00:30:52,410
John C Dvorak: I can't say it
again. molybdenum,

520
00:30:52,530 --> 00:30:57,120
Adam Curry: molybdenum.
molybdenum. Yes. No, you don't

521
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,890
know what it is. It's one

522
00:30:58,890 --> 00:31:00,450
John C Dvorak: of the rare
earths that people use for

523
00:31:00,450 --> 00:31:04,410
different alloys. It's an alloy
product as far as I know,

524
00:31:05,070 --> 00:31:11,520
Adam Curry: beryllium. Got that
nailed it 10, top, tantalum,

525
00:31:12,180 --> 00:31:18,180
tantalum, yeah, tantalum
niobium, niobium, niobium, gold,

526
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:23,280
lead, zinc, graphite, and
hydrocarbons. And so the

527
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,120
document is broken into areas
fields and license blocks with

528
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,390
regard to each mineral found in
that area with diagrams and

529
00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:35,730
short descriptions. There's also
some offshore so we see in the

530
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southern Warzone areas who you
can find rare earth minerals

531
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gold, lead and zinc, which are
ores and poly metallic deposits

532
00:31:44,460 --> 00:31:49,050
in about seven fields. There's
also offshore black, she's black

533
00:31:49,050 --> 00:31:53,460
sea shelf hydrocarbon deposits,
three license areas that contain

534
00:31:53,460 --> 00:31:59,160
lithium, tantalum, niobium,
rubidium, mica, rubidium,

535
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cesium, tin and beryllium. Each
of these areas have block named

536
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etc. This is what it's about.
Now we understand whether Putin

537
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,380
actually believes that this is a
Russian region or not. This is

538
00:32:16,380 --> 00:32:20,910
the fight. This is it that they
already divvied up the the

539
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:23,940
breadbasket to all the
multinationals, those are all

540
00:32:23,940 --> 00:32:28,440
licensed out the wheat. And now
it's about the rare earth

541
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,710
minerals and and there seems to
be some gas and some other

542
00:32:31,710 --> 00:32:35,820
hydrocarbon goodies in there as
well. No wonder we're fighting.

543
00:32:36,930 --> 00:32:37,770
No wonder.

544
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,290
John C Dvorak: Yes, I think this
is the untold part of the story.

545
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:51,450
And we don't, it's all
democracy. Well, it's for

546
00:32:51,450 --> 00:32:55,140
democracy. We're saving Europe,
we're saving Europe. We're

547
00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:58,710
saving Europe. Russia is getting
a hold of the tantalum boats and

548
00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:01,530
whatever else they need, which
are going to end the Russians

549
00:33:01,530 --> 00:33:04,230
are unlike the Chinese. I always
like to point this story out,

550
00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:08,520
which is that when the Chinese
stole the silkworms, this is,

551
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,030
you know, hundreds and hundreds
of years ago when the Japan had

552
00:33:12,030 --> 00:33:17,430
a monopoly on silk in the world.
And because they had

553
00:33:17,910 --> 00:33:21,210
domesticated silkworms, and they
were making silk and the Chinese

554
00:33:21,210 --> 00:33:24,930
wanted to make silk. So they
somehow confiscated through

555
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,120
industrial espionage. They stole
some silk worms and started

556
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,820
breeding them and they started
making silk and to the point

557
00:33:32,820 --> 00:33:35,520
where they're making so much
silk that they overwhelmed the

558
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,300
Japanese market and they became
the monopoly. But unlike the

559
00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:42,720
Japanese, and I've seen this
before, and I tried to I don't

560
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,180
know how I can express it
because because it's so

561
00:33:45,180 --> 00:33:50,220
inculcated into Chinese culture
of best price. They never turn

562
00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:53,640
into gougers. Somebody has to
show me an example of where they

563
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,300
do that. They bring it out at a
super low price, and they get a

564
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,270
monopoly and they never raised
the price. They don't get

565
00:34:00,270 --> 00:34:01,860
Adam Curry: it. They're doing
something wrong.

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00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,690
John C Dvorak: That's not the
way the Russians are. Well,

567
00:34:06,990 --> 00:34:09,990
Adam Curry: whatever the case
is, you would say? We're

568
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:14,220
definitely we're definitely
bringing democracy and peace to

569
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Europe, specifically to Germany,

570
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,280
Unknown: NATO Defence Ministers
have agreed that the alliance

571
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:24,150
will take more of a role in
coordinating military aid to

572
00:34:24,150 --> 00:34:26,340
Ukraine, the decision? When

573
00:34:26,339 --> 00:34:28,349
Adam Curry: did you know we've
noticed this a couple of times?

574
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When did it become Ukraine?

575
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:33,720
John C Dvorak: Policy was
Ukraine. Actually, you've

576
00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:34,860
noticed that more and make it

577
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:39,480
Adam Curry: used to be Ukraine?
Yeah. And then it knows Ukraine,

578
00:34:39,690 --> 00:34:42,720
Ukraine, me Ukraine, our crane,
whose crane is it

579
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Unknown: the aid to Ukraine. The
decision follows a meeting of

580
00:34:45,869 --> 00:34:49,229
the Transatlantic Alliance at
NATO headquarters in Brussels.

581
00:34:49,529 --> 00:34:53,159
pledges for bilateral assistance
will continue to be organized

582
00:34:53,399 --> 00:34:57,839
through a US led group of some
50 countries. NATO will now take

583
00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:01,289
over some of the logistics for
delay. During that support and

584
00:35:01,289 --> 00:35:05,639
training, NATO head Jens
Stoltenberg says the mission

585
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:09,419
will be headquartered at a US
military base in Germany, and

586
00:35:09,419 --> 00:35:13,049
involve almost 700 staff. These

587
00:35:13,110 --> 00:35:21,300
efforts do not make NATO a party
to the conflict. Our support to

588
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:25,170
crane to pole it's right to self
defense.

589
00:35:25,830 --> 00:35:28,920
Adam Curry: Oh, we're not really
doing anything. We're just doing

590
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,280
it. In Germany. Oh, man, How
stupid are these people?

591
00:35:32,910 --> 00:35:37,410
Germans, Germans, you've got to
stop this. This is nuts. You do

592
00:35:37,410 --> 00:35:44,820
not want that. You don't want to
know being it's do study some

593
00:35:44,820 --> 00:35:48,300
history again for trouble study
some history. People

594
00:35:48,990 --> 00:35:51,810
John C Dvorak: don't do that
anymore. It's gone. We were

595
00:35:51,810 --> 00:35:54,270
talking about gender history. So
this yes,

596
00:35:54,270 --> 00:35:58,800
Adam Curry: it's Yes. His Gender
Studies is how it's now. The

597
00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:02,880
we're talking about the 50
billion disagree. This was also

598
00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:09,870
a topic of discussion that $50
billion that that we're going to

599
00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:13,620
give to Ukraine, which somehow
comes from the 300 billion

600
00:36:13,620 --> 00:36:17,310
locked up in the Federal
Reserve's SWIFT system and Euro

601
00:36:17,310 --> 00:36:20,280
clear that is Russian money, you
know, the theft we've been

602
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,000
talking about? And you kind of
want to know how that worked. If

603
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,020
the money was locked up, and how
the how can you still get

604
00:36:28,020 --> 00:36:29,160
interest on it? If it's

605
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,710
John C Dvorak: frozen assets,
which is the term they keep

606
00:36:31,710 --> 00:36:35,970
using images frozen? How is it?
How is it making money?

607
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:40,530
Adam Curry: I have? I have an
answer. Good from Jim Rickards.

608
00:36:40,770 --> 00:36:42,780
And he would kind of know, this

609
00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:45,330
Unknown: is what's called a
structured product, the way that

610
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,570
where they're stealing the
assets is a structured product.

611
00:36:48,570 --> 00:36:51,030
If you go back to 2008, you
said, Hey, you got all these

612
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:53,970
garbage mortgage mortgages out
there? How could you turn them

613
00:36:53,970 --> 00:36:57,060
into AAA securities? And well,
she said, Hold my beer, I'll

614
00:36:57,060 --> 00:36:59,430
show you how to do it. And they
did. And course it all

615
00:36:59,430 --> 00:37:02,250
collapsed. The rating agencies
were here's how it works. So

616
00:37:02,250 --> 00:37:05,130
let's just take the Russian
assets above my first question

617
00:37:05,130 --> 00:37:08,430
$50 billion dollar loan to
Ukraine, who is the lender? The

618
00:37:08,430 --> 00:37:11,190
lender is the United States of
America, which basically you me,

619
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:14,070
and all the all the posse and
all the viewers and the American

620
00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:17,640
taxpayers are lending the money.
So the United States government

621
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,360
is the lender of $50 billion to
Ukraine, what now you take the

622
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,170
Russian assets $300 billion
dollars, the interest should be

623
00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:28,260
about four and a half percent.
And I say that because they've

624
00:37:28,260 --> 00:37:31,920
been frozen for over over two
years. So when a two year

625
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,470
security matures, the church
should just send you the money.

626
00:37:34,650 --> 00:37:38,310
That's and, and the Treasury is
basically stealing that. So they

627
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:41,220
reinvest it, they go buy another
security. So the interest on

628
00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:43,680
that portfolio should be about
four and a half percent that's

629
00:37:43,710 --> 00:37:47,040
estimated, but I'm sure it's
pretty close. So the 300 billion

630
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,380
is going to throw off 13 point 5
billion a year in interest at

631
00:37:52,380 --> 00:37:55,290
four and a half percent. And
let's just assume five years, I

632
00:37:55,290 --> 00:37:57,870
think it doesn't matter. That's
a reasonable estimate. That's

633
00:37:57,870 --> 00:38:03,240
$67.5 billion of interest over
five years. Now let's look at

634
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,460
the Russian assets as look at
the loan $50 billion loan us as

635
00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:10,800
the lender, so I'm assuming the
same four and a half percent,

636
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,970
that's the rate on five year,
approximately five year US

637
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:18,330
Treasury notice that that the
interest on that is two and a

638
00:38:18,330 --> 00:38:22,530
quarter billion per year, times
five years is 11 and a quarter

639
00:38:22,530 --> 00:38:25,260
billion, and you have to pay
back the 50 billion of

640
00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:29,430
principal, so you're gonna need
61 and a quarter billion dollars

641
00:38:29,610 --> 00:38:31,980
at the end of five years to pay
back the principal and the

642
00:38:31,980 --> 00:38:35,880
interest on the loan. So okay,
we're gonna steal 67 billion

643
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,780
approximately, from the Russian
interest. And that's enough to

644
00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:45,030
pay for the 61.2 5 billion on
the loan. So basically, the loan

645
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:48,540
is going to be made, it's going
to accrue interest, it's gonna

646
00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:52,290
get repaid, it's gonna get
repaid from the Russian assets.

647
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,530
But the Russian assets happen to
be six times larger than the

648
00:38:55,530 --> 00:38:58,800
loan, at least for now. And it
will produce enough interest to

649
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,830
pay off this loan. So the g7
they're gonna say, well, we're

650
00:39:01,830 --> 00:39:04,770
not stealing the Russian assets.
We're just taking the interest.

651
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:08,160
And then the loans separate.
This is why I say it's a

652
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,830
structured product one separate
and we'll use the interest to

653
00:39:10,830 --> 00:39:14,280
pay off the loan less by the
Ukraine was the word no worries,

654
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,920
we'll just hit hit a brush
corroboration which is

655
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:20,580
delusional, but that's the way
they think. So

656
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:24,270
Adam Curry: we're kind of
stealing it from us. You know,

657
00:39:24,270 --> 00:39:24,420
what

658
00:39:24,420 --> 00:39:25,890
John C Dvorak: was the audience
with that one?

659
00:39:25,980 --> 00:39:27,960
Adam Curry: No, I don't think
so. I think a lot of people got

660
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,830
that. The whole the whole thing
is crooked.

661
00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:35,520
Unknown: It's why it's gambling.

662
00:39:35,550 --> 00:39:39,000
Adam Curry: But it's our money.
I mean, I mean, they're in

663
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,440
essence they're printing it

664
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John C Dvorak: right? Now
actually selling the books. It's

665
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:46,230
real money up well, yeah,

666
00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:47,310
Adam Curry: they make it up
right.

667
00:39:48,030 --> 00:39:50,820
John C Dvorak: Russians money
and then we're kind of stealing

668
00:39:50,820 --> 00:39:53,730
the money that loaning it to
Ukraine. Getting money back.

669
00:39:53,730 --> 00:39:57,180
We're probably probably making
out in the deal. Probably what

670
00:39:57,180 --> 00:39:59,070
am I what am I thinking we're
making out on?

671
00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:01,680
Adam Curry: I don't know if it's
You and I, John someone's making

672
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,630
out on the deal we're not making
anything

673
00:40:03,630 --> 00:40:06,030
John C Dvorak: on the deal
that's for sure. And the guys

674
00:40:06,030 --> 00:40:10,080
who are losing their assets or
their you or the other Ukrainian

675
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,740
soldiers and women and men are
all getting killed chopped up

676
00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:17,850
now to buy the machine so it was
somebody he gets a beryllium

677
00:40:21,390 --> 00:40:23,640
Adam Curry: is that the most
important one? I kind of liked

678
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:29,370
the molybdenum molybdenum. Yeah,
that's exactly right. That's the

679
00:40:29,370 --> 00:40:33,060
one I like the molybdenum is the
one I'm going for it Ba ba ba ba

680
00:40:34,410 --> 00:40:42,000
scat. Is there any news? Because
I did get a a thing from Turkish

681
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,840
Radio Television. Is there any
news about the expiration of our

682
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,470
deal with Saudi Arabia? Is that
being discussed anywhere?

683
00:40:49,470 --> 00:40:52,680
John C Dvorak: None zip it just
was mentioned. We haven't said

684
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,650
anything about I think it's I
don't believe that the deals is

685
00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:59,700
fully in play. Well, I think
it's a bluff or some sort Well,

686
00:40:59,730 --> 00:41:00,150
listen to

687
00:41:00,150 --> 00:41:02,820
Unknown: this is the reign of
the US dollar and global trade

688
00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:05,700
under an existential threat.
This may well be the case

689
00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:08,820
because a critical decade's long
deal between Saudi Arabia and

690
00:41:08,820 --> 00:41:17,340
the US known as the petro dollar
deal expired on June 8. The deal

691
00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:21,450
was originally signed on June
8 1974. It's through it the US

692
00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:24,720
agreed to buy oil from Saudi
Arabia and exchange for military

693
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:27,810
aid and equipment while the
Saudis would invest their petro

694
00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:31,560
dollar revenue back into the US
economy. In other words, Petro

695
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,950
dollars or US dollars in
exchange for crude oil exports.

696
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,850
The expiry of a deal now allow
Saudi Arabia to send us oil in

697
00:41:38,850 --> 00:41:42,360
multiple different currencies,
such as the Chinese renminbi,

698
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:46,200
and Yuan, the euro and the
British pound as well as crypto

699
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:53,310
currencies like Bitcoin. vital
to the US as global economic

700
00:41:53,310 --> 00:41:57,240
influence, the expiry of a
collapse of the deal is expected

701
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,570
to impact the US dollar value
and its dominance in global

702
00:42:00,570 --> 00:42:04,050
trade. As experts now also
particular Saudi Arabia is

703
00:42:04,050 --> 00:42:07,230
intending to end this
association with USD following

704
00:42:07,230 --> 00:42:10,890
his entry into bricks, which
seeks to prioritize trade in

705
00:42:10,890 --> 00:42:14,250
local currencies, with Russia
and Saudi Arabia now vying to

706
00:42:14,250 --> 00:42:17,610
move away from trading and USD
will the global dominance of the

707
00:42:17,610 --> 00:42:20,250
dollar, which is still the most
dominant currency in the world

708
00:42:20,430 --> 00:42:21,540
be coming to an end.

709
00:42:23,790 --> 00:42:25,950
Adam Curry: So I kind of
understand what they're saying

710
00:42:25,950 --> 00:42:30,360
the deal, I guess it was a 50
year deal. It just ended. And

711
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,970
they have to do it. And they
haven't really they could redo

712
00:42:32,970 --> 00:42:36,210
it. But do you see and they're
there with the Pope. And

713
00:42:36,210 --> 00:42:36,810
probably here's

714
00:42:36,810 --> 00:42:38,730
John C Dvorak: the problem was
mentioned very early in that

715
00:42:38,730 --> 00:42:43,320
report. The problem for Saudi
Arabia is the whole thing was

716
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,920
contingent on them buying our
armaments, and they're loaded to

717
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,330
the gills with our gear. Yeah.
And they can't all of a sudden,

718
00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:55,530
just stiff us and expect that
gear to get repaired ever again,

719
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,370
or to have us protect them.
Yeah, or have us protect him. So

720
00:42:59,370 --> 00:43:02,160
that's not going I said, No,
this is an overly drip

721
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,410
dramatized problem that may go
away. In due course, she wants

722
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,810
so it's like it gets out of us
so positive.

723
00:43:11,340 --> 00:43:14,880
Adam Curry: Not only is the deal
going to be re upped but Biden's

724
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,340
not going to win. You're very
positive. You're the guy. I'm

725
00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:19,770
John C Dvorak: not that positive
about Biden not winning. No, I

726
00:43:19,770 --> 00:43:21,660
have a series of clips. Yes.

727
00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:26,610
Adam Curry: You know, we've
we've Robert Epstein was in play

728
00:43:27,390 --> 00:43:30,810
during the the 2020 election as
well.

729
00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:34,560
John C Dvorak: Yes, in fact, I
have all those clips. But I

730
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,870
should mention that Robert
Epstein kind of dropped off the

731
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:37,800
radar. His wife

732
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,290
Adam Curry: got killed in a
horrible accident. His

733
00:43:40,290 --> 00:43:44,340
John C Dvorak: wife got killed.
Yeah. Even though he thought he

734
00:43:44,340 --> 00:43:49,710
was, you know, targeted, and the
wife got killed a miserable car

735
00:43:49,710 --> 00:43:54,840
wreck of some sort. Same thing
happened to Joe Biden's first

736
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,190
wife. So you don't know what's
going on there. But that was

737
00:43:59,370 --> 00:44:01,470
Adam Curry: Robert, keep your
eye on Jill. And that's what you

738
00:44:01,470 --> 00:44:03,990
want to do. So

739
00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:06,390
John C Dvorak: I have a lot of
different not that long. A

740
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:09,780
couple of one of them is. But
this Robert Epstein. Robert

741
00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:13,620
Epstein is what it's actually
he's pretty well introduced

742
00:44:13,620 --> 00:44:19,860
here. He's the guy who who've,
who uses a technique to spy on

743
00:44:19,860 --> 00:44:25,200
Google, of having edits
explained in these clips to have

744
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,770
a whole bunch of people and not
net. They're not anonymous.

745
00:44:28,770 --> 00:44:32,040
They're real people that Google
has been tracking. And he also

746
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,950
says that everyone who's been on
Google For 20 years will have 3

747
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:39,390
million pages of data on them in
a database someplace. Every

748
00:44:39,420 --> 00:44:42,990
every person. Yeah, everyone. If
you've been on Google for 20

749
00:44:42,990 --> 00:44:47,880
years, you'll have 3 million
pages of documentation. Done a

750
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,320
four size or legal letter is
probably a four. Because Google

751
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,200
you know, they're they're
cosmopolitan as they are Cosmo.

752
00:44:56,130 --> 00:44:58,050
Let's start with Robert Epstein.
One

753
00:44:58,110 --> 00:45:01,830
Unknown: that would be Dr. Rob
Bert Epstein, who is the head of

754
00:45:01,830 --> 00:45:05,190
the American Institute for
Behavioral Research and

755
00:45:05,220 --> 00:45:06,180
Technology, where

756
00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:07,710
Adam Curry: who's who did this
interview?

757
00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:11,850
John C Dvorak: This came from?
Epstein. Yes.

758
00:45:11,850 --> 00:45:13,470
Adam Curry: Right. You don't
want to say Epstein you want to

759
00:45:13,470 --> 00:45:14,850
say Epstein Epstein?

760
00:45:14,850 --> 00:45:19,620
John C Dvorak: Yes. This came
from the Michael Knowles podcast

761
00:45:19,620 --> 00:45:25,200
called Pure talk, podcast, a
podcast on YouTube, I did send

762
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,150
you a link to it. So it could be
in the show notes.

763
00:45:27,180 --> 00:45:28,350
Adam Curry: It is in the show
notes.

764
00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:32,010
Unknown: Also the former editor
in chief of Psychology Today,

765
00:45:32,340 --> 00:45:36,450
and holds a PhD from Harvard.
But despite that, actually has

766
00:45:36,450 --> 00:45:40,620
had a great career and has
aroused the hire of many, many

767
00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:44,250
powerful people, including the
biggest corporation ever.

768
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,000
Google. Dr. Epstein, thank you
for being here. I want to get to

769
00:45:48,030 --> 00:45:50,790
so much I actually want to get
to some of your other areas of

770
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:56,250
research, because you are not
just a guy who gives testimony

771
00:45:56,250 --> 00:46:00,900
and goes on interviews and talks
about big tech. You are a very

772
00:46:01,290 --> 00:46:06,060
serious person with a very
lengthy career, and all sorts of

773
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:09,810
credentials and publications. I
do want to begin though you do

774
00:46:09,810 --> 00:46:14,250
with this Google elections
question How bad is it's

775
00:46:14,250 --> 00:46:18,690
much worse than you think. So
however bad you think it is,

776
00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:23,070
it's much worse. So I can just
give you two numbers. And maybe

777
00:46:23,070 --> 00:46:27,240
that will summarize it for you.
Google alone in this year's

778
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:30,870
presidential election. If we
don't do some extraordinary

779
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:34,770
things to stop them, which might
be impossible. Google alone will

780
00:46:34,770 --> 00:46:42,030
be able to shift between six
point 4,000,025 point 5 million

781
00:46:42,210 --> 00:46:46,770
votes in the presidential
election. Generally speaking,

782
00:46:46,770 --> 00:46:50,940
with no one having the slightest
idea that they've been

783
00:46:50,940 --> 00:46:55,260
manipulated. And generally
speaking, without leaving a

784
00:46:55,260 --> 00:46:58,260
paper trail for authorities to
trace, I think

785
00:46:58,260 --> 00:47:00,480
Adam Curry: he had similar
numbers. The you know, in the

786
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,990
2020 election, I think he had
similar type numbers of what

787
00:47:04,050 --> 00:47:05,340
Google could shift.

788
00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:08,580
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he might
have He says his worse now than

789
00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:09,600
it was before.

790
00:47:12,330 --> 00:47:14,550
Adam Curry: So well, why is the
question

791
00:47:15,570 --> 00:47:18,810
John C Dvorak: there? Democrats,
you saw Sergey Brin in tears

792
00:47:18,810 --> 00:47:20,790
when Trump? No, I know

793
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:23,040
Adam Curry: that. But what what
is the mechanism? What are they

794
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,380
doing? Oh, yeah, he tries to, he

795
00:47:25,380 --> 00:47:30,300
John C Dvorak: tries to bring
some of it out. The mechanism

796
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:34,170
is? Well, I mean, I wrote a
column with my last substack

797
00:47:34,170 --> 00:47:37,950
column shows you some evidence
of the mechanism is like, if you

798
00:47:37,950 --> 00:47:42,960
do a search on Donald Trump
donations, you'll, you won't get

799
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,690
the Donald Trump donation site.
But if you put Joe Biden

800
00:47:45,690 --> 00:47:48,330
donations that comes right at
the top, okay, that's one that's

801
00:47:48,810 --> 00:47:52,530
manipulation of the way the
information is presented some

802
00:47:52,530 --> 00:47:55,860
subtle manipulation. But as
you're here, more and more of

803
00:47:55,860 --> 00:47:59,610
what he has to say, you can see,
yes, it adds up. It's like real

804
00:47:59,610 --> 00:48:01,770
money at the end of the day,
you're is that

805
00:48:01,770 --> 00:48:04,410
Unknown: because of the number
of Democrats and Republicans

806
00:48:04,410 --> 00:48:07,470
using it? Or is that because of
who's getting the notifications?

807
00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:07,650
Now?

808
00:48:07,650 --> 00:48:10,410
We're talking about proportions
here. I'm saying that

809
00:48:10,410 --> 00:48:14,940
proportionally speaking, I'm
saying that Democrats are

810
00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:18,930
getting those reminders at two
and a half times the rate that

811
00:48:18,930 --> 00:48:19,380
results?

812
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,170
Adam Curry: Yes, clip two. Okay.
Robert Epstein to right.

813
00:48:25,380 --> 00:48:28,380
Unknown: Now that's happening.
That's a very short one.

814
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:31,860
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was
the discus. Um, it's

815
00:48:31,860 --> 00:48:35,550
interesting, though, that well,
that was an exponent explanatory

816
00:48:35,550 --> 00:48:40,620
except for the fact that the
Google sends out a reminder to

817
00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:44,430
register to vote at a rate two
and a half times greater to

818
00:48:44,430 --> 00:48:49,290
Democrats than they do to
Republicans. And they determine

819
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,380
who if you're Republican or
Democrat, by your searches. And

820
00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:55,320
by your by your email, or what
you use when you use Google,

821
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,220
everyone uses Google email, I
think 80% of our audience does.

822
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,370
And so if you're like, 80% of
the audience, you're getting the

823
00:49:02,370 --> 00:49:04,920
no agenda newsletter, for
example, you're probably not a

824
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,420
Democrat. And so you get
categorized such, probably,

825
00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:11,760
Adam Curry: from time to time,
don't receive the no agenda

826
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,800
newsletter for above worries,
yes,

827
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,530
John C Dvorak: yes, that
happens. A lot has happened. And

828
00:49:16,530 --> 00:49:18,780
particularly when I was critical
of Google and one of the

829
00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:21,030
newsletters that was getting go
to three, it,

830
00:49:21,150 --> 00:49:24,930
Unknown: it almost makes me want
to throw my hands in the air and

831
00:49:24,930 --> 00:49:27,780
say, this corporation is so
powerful, they control

832
00:49:27,780 --> 00:49:33,840
everything. I'm not a major
research psychologist, so I

833
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,700
don't look into that. But the
moment you start to look into

834
00:49:35,700 --> 00:49:38,010
these things, you say, Oh, well,
look, the situation is even

835
00:49:38,010 --> 00:49:40,710
worse than you thought it was.
Just

836
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:43,950
to drive this point home. If
Google is doing something like

837
00:49:43,950 --> 00:49:46,800
that, which they are because
we're measuring it right. And

838
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,650
then at some point, they're
going to send out partisan

839
00:49:49,740 --> 00:49:52,260
mailing your ballot reminders
and at some point, they're going

840
00:49:52,260 --> 00:49:56,820
to send out partisan go vote
reminders, and they're also

841
00:49:57,750 --> 00:50:01,050
stacking the deck in their
search results. So the search

842
00:50:01,050 --> 00:50:05,430
results are highly biased, I can
actually send your audience to a

843
00:50:05,550 --> 00:50:08,370
web page. And actually, you can
actually see what the bias is

844
00:50:08,370 --> 00:50:12,390
right now. And on Google search
results, how does one calculate

845
00:50:12,420 --> 00:50:17,250
how does one we will we right
now are collecting data with

846
00:50:17,250 --> 00:50:21,030
their permission, through the
computers of more than 14,000

847
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:25,710
registered voters in all 50
states politically balanced? And

848
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,280
all that information coming into
the computers of real people we

849
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,660
are aggregating in real time and
analyzing in real time regarding

850
00:50:33,660 --> 00:50:37,890
bias while we're looking at the
web pages that Google is sending

851
00:50:37,890 --> 00:50:42,570
people to. And we're using three
different organizations, ratings

852
00:50:42,570 --> 00:50:47,400
of political bias, taking the
mean, and then calculating a

853
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,750
mean for each search position in
Google search results. So I hope

854
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:55,620
I'm not being too detailed here.
But no, no, the point is, we can

855
00:50:55,620 --> 00:51:00,480
measure very precisely whether
there is bias in Google search

856
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,350
results. And there's
extraordinary bias in Google

857
00:51:04,350 --> 00:51:08,760
search results sufficient to
shift millions of votes in this

858
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,630
year's election.

859
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,620
Adam Curry: I remember how he
does this, because he said, It's

860
00:51:13,650 --> 00:51:17,340
all ephemeral. So He equips like
hundreds of people, I think,

861
00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:22,980
with a tracking device, 14,000
focac, 14,000. And that's how

862
00:51:22,980 --> 00:51:27,390
he's able to track the the bias
that Google puts in, that he saw

863
00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:31,500
he throws out that number 4
million to 20 million. Do you

864
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:34,260
really, I mean, does he have any
data to back up that that will

865
00:51:34,260 --> 00:51:35,430
serve? He

866
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:37,440
John C Dvorak: does a
statistical analysis of what

867
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,400
he's seeing with the 14,000
people? 7000 Republicans, 7000

868
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,970
Democrats, and he extrapolates
and he does it in a way that is

869
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,170
that is statistically sound.
Okay. So that's where he's doing

870
00:51:49,170 --> 00:51:52,770
that. And he has other details
in terms of how many people you

871
00:51:52,770 --> 00:51:55,890
because you just extrapolate if
you have, you know, he's only

872
00:51:55,890 --> 00:51:59,010
looking at 14,000 computers, but
like he says in, I think the

873
00:51:59,010 --> 00:52:04,110
next clip, 500 million people
are hitting Google daily, you

874
00:52:04,110 --> 00:52:06,540
Adam Curry: know, but not only
in the United States, really,

875
00:52:06,570 --> 00:52:09,840
John C Dvorak: in the United
States. All looked at number

876
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:13,740
three, you're gonna say, Who's
that worldwide? board after

877
00:52:13,740 --> 00:52:14,370
dinner table?

878
00:52:14,370 --> 00:52:17,520
Adam Curry: They're all looking
for AOC porn videos. But yeah,

879
00:52:17,550 --> 00:52:18,600
I'm sure I'm sure.

880
00:52:20,310 --> 00:52:24,360
Unknown: Democrat, what we have
learned to do is to monitor them

881
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:27,540
the way they monitor us. We're
surveilling them. We're

882
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:31,950
collecting data that they are
sending to real people. And by

883
00:52:31,950 --> 00:52:34,530
the way, that's the only way to
see what they're really doing.

884
00:52:34,530 --> 00:52:38,280
You have to look over the
shoulders of real people.

885
00:52:38,610 --> 00:52:41,730
Because all the content is
personalized. You can't use an

886
00:52:41,730 --> 00:52:45,300
anonymized computer as the
economist did. And a study, as

887
00:52:45,300 --> 00:52:47,520
some folks at Stanford
University did in this study.

888
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:51,420
You can't use an anonymized
computer. Because Google sees

889
00:52:51,420 --> 00:52:55,470
that as a bot. They see it as a
non person, they know it's not a

890
00:52:55,470 --> 00:52:58,440
real person, because they don't
have that huge pile of

891
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,380
information. There's no real
person would be anonymous, all

892
00:53:01,380 --> 00:53:04,860
content is personalized, right.
So if they're sending content to

893
00:53:04,860 --> 00:53:08,910
a non person, guess what? It's
unbiased, right? So people have

894
00:53:08,910 --> 00:53:13,200
conducted silly studies saying
Google is not biased against

895
00:53:13,230 --> 00:53:16,500
conservatives or anyone else.
Because look, we did this study

896
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:20,010
with an anonymized computer. And
we're getting back clean, clean,

897
00:53:20,010 --> 00:53:24,030
clean data. Yes, that's right.
That's true. Back, I can

898
00:53:24,030 --> 00:53:27,420
demonstrate it for you. That's
actually true. But who cares?

899
00:53:27,420 --> 00:53:30,180
That's not what the data we're
getting. The data we're getting

900
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:34,080
is personalized. So we are
looking over the shoulders of a

901
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,560
very large number of registered
voters. And they're real people

902
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,280
and Google, Google cannot
identify them. And that's how

903
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,950
you see what they're sending.
Okay.

904
00:53:45,330 --> 00:53:47,430
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he says
Google can't identify me means

905
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:49,740
Google can identify them as
stooges.

906
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:52,980
Unknown: I understand. All
right. Okay, let's go to clip

907
00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:53,370
five,

908
00:53:53,370 --> 00:53:55,620
John C Dvorak: I think we have
been monitored. This is why

909
00:53:55,620 --> 00:53:59,670
their way this is a good clip,
go as opposed to those first for

910
00:53:59,850 --> 00:54:02,250
those of those who are good,
too. But this is like really

911
00:54:02,250 --> 00:54:04,140
good. This is the money shot
people. We have been

912
00:54:04,140 --> 00:54:06,210
Unknown: monitoring, building
bigger and bigger monitoring

913
00:54:06,210 --> 00:54:11,310
systems since 2016. And 2020, we
had a pretty big system in place

914
00:54:11,310 --> 00:54:16,560
for the first time. So we
actually captured 1.5 million

915
00:54:16,590 --> 00:54:21,240
ephemeral experiences. That's
what Google calls them. On

916
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:25,500
Google and other platforms, we
were very, very rapidly

917
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:30,660
analyzing our data. We were
seeing very extreme political

918
00:54:30,660 --> 00:54:34,500
bias on Google, but not on Bing
or Yahoo. And that's important

919
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:38,490
for comparison purposes. And
this time around, I thought,

920
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,650
we're not going to wait till
after the election, so I didn't

921
00:54:40,650 --> 00:54:44,100
want to I was reluctant to ever
to reveal this what we what we

922
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:46,800
knew before the election,
because I was afraid Donald

923
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,090
Trump might not think that much
of I mean, I'm amazed by him.

924
00:54:51,090 --> 00:54:53,760
Yes, but I don't think much of
him, but I was afraid he would

925
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,970
take our data run to the Supreme
Court and shut down the country.

926
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,010
But we had found such
incriminate Eating data in 2020.

927
00:55:02,340 --> 00:55:05,850
That few days before the
election, I contacted a reporter

928
00:55:05,850 --> 00:55:08,820
I knew at the New York Post, I
said here, I'm going to send you

929
00:55:08,820 --> 00:55:12,480
a bunch of stuff. Look at it. I
said, You just had a front cover

930
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,900
story on the Hunter Biden
laptop, I said, this will be

931
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:20,010
your next front cover story.
This is about large scale

932
00:55:20,340 --> 00:55:25,680
rigging of the current election.
She was tremendously dubious.

933
00:55:25,710 --> 00:55:28,650
And then she looked at all the
stuff I sent her and she got the

934
00:55:28,650 --> 00:55:32,130
assignment, she wrote up the
piece, she called me up. This is

935
00:55:32,130 --> 00:55:35,370
Friday, before the Tuesday
election, she read me parts of

936
00:55:35,370 --> 00:55:38,370
the piece, this was gonna be the
front cover. It was fabulous.

937
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,220
Because it was about rigging,
but with real data, right,

938
00:55:41,220 --> 00:55:42,180
showing real data.

939
00:55:42,210 --> 00:55:48,030
Adam Curry: Alright, hold on a
sec. So what Google is doing

940
00:55:48,030 --> 00:55:52,590
here may spur on people to
register to vote or to send in

941
00:55:52,590 --> 00:55:57,840
their vote. It seems to me like
it's not going to sway anyone

942
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,420
from one side to the to the
other. I don't know about the

943
00:56:00,420 --> 00:56:04,140
independence and how important
that is. thing people may have

944
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,280
kind of made up their mind. So
what he's saying here is stupid

945
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:13,560
journalists. They're influenced
by it. And the media portion is

946
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,870
influenced by it. But do you
think at this point that that

947
00:56:15,870 --> 00:56:19,290
makes any difference for how
people are going to vote? Will

948
00:56:19,290 --> 00:56:23,250
it sway anyone one way or the
other is is just purely about

949
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:24,780
the the turnout.

950
00:56:26,940 --> 00:56:29,400
John C Dvorak: It has a lot to
do with the turnout, but it but

951
00:56:29,430 --> 00:56:32,310
like he says if your rigging the
results, in other words, if you

952
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,480
if you are on the fence and
you're looking for something

953
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,590
that is like, anti Biden
material, and they won't give it

954
00:56:40,590 --> 00:56:44,610
to you, alright, that's going to
sway Okay, so many people see

955
00:56:44,610 --> 00:56:51,630
the Biden roaming around clip,
you know? Yeah. Well, let's

956
00:56:51,630 --> 00:56:55,290
continue this, and then you can
discuss at the end, but this is

957
00:56:55,290 --> 00:56:58,590
the kicker to what he just said
is the next clip,

958
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,430
Unknown: then her editor as a
matter of course, this is not

959
00:57:02,430 --> 00:57:06,390
nothing unusual, called Google
for comment. She called me up

960
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:10,800
later that day, and she said, I
am so mad. She didn't use that

961
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,190
word. She used another word,
little saucy. And she said,

962
00:57:14,220 --> 00:57:19,830
Well, New York journalists. So
she said, your piece just got

963
00:57:19,830 --> 00:57:23,910
killed. I said what I said,
You're the New York Post, you

964
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:28,560
broke the hunter. She said,
Yeah. But we get a lot of

965
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,020
traffic from Google, which I
look up at that time, they were

966
00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:35,070
getting about 45% of their
traffic from Google. Now, if you

967
00:57:35,070 --> 00:57:38,190
try to look that up, you can't
even look that up anymore.

968
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:44,070
Google has made that information
disappear. But the New York Post

969
00:57:44,070 --> 00:57:46,500
it's true at that time was
getting a lot of their traffic

970
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:49,740
from Google so they could not
afford to run the story.

971
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,310
Adam Curry: Okay. Oh, that's a
good point. So the New York Post

972
00:57:53,310 --> 00:57:54,870
is a compromised piece of crap.

973
00:57:55,410 --> 00:57:59,190
John C Dvorak: Everybody is not
us, baby. No, it's because we

974
00:57:59,220 --> 00:58:02,670
were starving to death. Here you
go. So

975
00:58:05,310 --> 00:58:08,250
Adam Curry: I can't believe it.
It's so hard and we're starving,

976
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,410
John C Dvorak: is here the final
kick and provided a way that the

977
00:58:13,410 --> 00:58:18,330
thing was being as shown in the
column I just did or did last

978
00:58:18,330 --> 00:58:23,130
week for substack. Bing is way
off to off track. Now they, if

979
00:58:23,130 --> 00:58:28,380
you look at their Biden versus
Trump searches, they put is a

980
00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:32,910
promotion for Biden being even
though maybe in 2010 2020, there

981
00:58:32,910 --> 00:58:36,750
wasn't so much of this word
being he says Yahoo. Yeah, but

982
00:58:36,750 --> 00:58:42,750
now there's tons it is just Pro,
the Bing site is so pro Biden is

983
00:58:42,750 --> 00:58:43,950
ridiculous. So again,

984
00:58:43,950 --> 00:58:49,110
Adam Curry: it may sway some
Well, yes. I think all of

985
00:58:49,110 --> 00:58:51,480
America at this point, see
something's wrong with Joe

986
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,810
Biden, but I can see where
independents are people who are

987
00:58:54,810 --> 00:58:57,690
on the fence. How big is that
group? Really.

988
00:58:58,740 --> 00:59:01,140
John C Dvorak: It's about a
third of the voters. Really,

989
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,780
Adam Curry: a third of voters is
actually

990
00:59:03,780 --> 00:59:06,210
John C Dvorak: 3535. And the
nemorosa were independents.

991
00:59:06,210 --> 00:59:10,770
Okay. All right. So here we go
into final kicker of the kicker,

992
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:11,400
and

993
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,530
Adam Curry: the kicker of the
kicker is football.

994
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:18,780
Unknown: So I sent it off to Ted
Cruz. And on November 5, two

995
00:59:18,780 --> 00:59:22,410
days after the election, Ted
Cruz with two other senators

996
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,640
sent a very threatening letter
to the CEO of Google. So there's

997
00:59:26,790 --> 00:59:30,540
this right after the election
saying, and and it goes on and

998
00:59:30,540 --> 00:59:35,280
on about what Epstein has found.
And how do you account for this?

999
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,010
You testified before Congress
saying you don't interfere with

1000
00:59:38,010 --> 00:59:43,710
elections? And guess what
happened on November 5 of 2020.

1001
00:59:43,770 --> 00:59:48,780
Wade crews got a car accident,
Google, Google turned off all of

1002
00:59:48,780 --> 00:59:52,080
their manipulations. Now you're
saying Wait, this is after the

1003
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,680
election? Who cares? Because
Georgia where we had more than

1004
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,890
1000 We call them field agents.
Yeah. So we were we were

1005
00:59:58,890 --> 01:00:02,490
collecting content Through the
computers of more than 1000

1006
01:00:02,490 --> 01:00:05,700
registered voters all over
Georgia, Georgia was gearing up

1007
01:00:05,700 --> 01:00:09,390
to have two Senate runoff
election Leffler

1008
01:00:09,390 --> 01:00:13,080
and Purdue. I went I went down
for those races. Well, on

1009
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:17,010
November 5, Google shut off
their partisan go vote

1010
01:00:17,010 --> 01:00:21,780
reminders. No one from that day
forward until that election, no

1011
01:00:21,780 --> 01:00:26,460
one in Georgia. Gotta go vote
reminder, nobody. They turned

1012
01:00:26,490 --> 01:00:32,310
off the bias in the search
results, which I thought would

1013
01:00:32,340 --> 01:00:37,440
be impossible. How could you you
just can't turn off bias. I have

1014
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,800
since learned through documents
from the company that were that

1015
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,690
were taken out of the company.
I've learned from a

1016
01:00:42,690 --> 01:00:47,820
whistleblower that in fact, they
can turn bias on and off, like

1017
01:00:47,850 --> 01:00:51,930
flipping a light switch. That is
a quote from Zack Vorhees.

1018
01:00:53,460 --> 01:00:54,870
Adam Curry: Who's Zack for he's

1019
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:58,410
John C Dvorak: as the Google
whistleblower? Oh, of course,

1020
01:00:58,410 --> 01:01:03,930
you haven't heard of him know.
Me Google and get you on your

1021
01:01:04,260 --> 01:01:06,810
level get any more traffic from
Google?

1022
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:11,250
Adam Curry: Let me Google him.
doesn't show up. I use

1023
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,510
cognitions. And

1024
01:01:12,510 --> 01:01:16,410
John C Dvorak: show you Yeah,
no, this is a corrupt situation.

1025
01:01:16,980 --> 01:01:21,060
completely out of control pond,
and nobody cares. This is like,

1026
01:01:21,090 --> 01:01:23,610
Oh, whatever. You know, okay.
Well, Biden, if he gets in

1027
01:01:23,610 --> 01:01:27,000
again, so what is he won't last
that long and Kamla would be the

1028
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:32,430
president. That's what everybody
wants? Well be a break. Well,

1029
01:01:32,730 --> 01:01:35,850
Adam Curry: we're gonna go down
with the I don't care who it is,

1030
01:01:35,850 --> 01:01:39,300
as long as it's first of all,
let's just stop pretending that

1031
01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:43,950
it matters. Donald Trump is not
going to save everybody, right?

1032
01:01:43,980 --> 01:01:47,670
daddio is not going to fix all
your problems in your town, or

1033
01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:51,390
your city. That's got to come
from the people. You know,

1034
01:01:51,510 --> 01:01:54,900
people got to get into the into
the ring. I'm not going to

1035
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:59,760
works. tripping out memes. I
thought CNN did an interesting

1036
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:05,010
job of solidifying the Donald
Trump is going to destroy our

1037
01:02:05,010 --> 01:02:06,120
democracy.

1038
01:02:07,980 --> 01:02:11,310
John C Dvorak: Which now? I
think Do you think they'd get

1039
01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:14,610
off that for no track? No doing
it? Oh,

1040
01:02:14,610 --> 01:02:18,450
Adam Curry: it's a double down
now to double down because there

1041
01:02:18,450 --> 01:02:21,360
is an even when you hear this
piece from CNN, and this is this

1042
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:28,890
British dude who, for somehow he
covers Trump, for CNN, because I

1043
01:02:28,890 --> 01:02:35,070
know maybe he's not seen as
offensive to Trump voters. And

1044
01:02:35,070 --> 01:02:38,880
he so he goes into a Trump
rally. And of course, it's a man

1045
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,990
on the street. So the Hello,
easy to pick out the two weak

1046
01:02:42,990 --> 01:02:48,150
sisters of the bunch. But then
it's it's intercut with an

1047
01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:52,950
interview with our favorite Anne
Applebaum. So listen to

1048
01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:55,950
Unknown: this. One thing we've
been hearing at Trump rallies

1049
01:02:55,950 --> 01:02:59,040
like this over the past few
months is that America isn't

1050
01:02:59,070 --> 01:03:00,540
really a democracy.

1051
01:03:00,870 --> 01:03:03,210
America's not a democracy.
That's

1052
01:03:04,380 --> 01:03:08,730
against not a democracy. Okay,
democracy is actually not as

1053
01:03:08,730 --> 01:03:09,450
good as you think

1054
01:03:09,450 --> 01:03:13,170
it is. But for centuries,
America has celebrated its

1055
01:03:13,170 --> 01:03:17,520
democracy. Democracy is worth
dying for democracy remains the

1056
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,390
definition of political
legitimacy. But some Republicans

1057
01:03:21,390 --> 01:03:25,590
and pro Trump media are pushing
the idea that America is not a

1058
01:03:25,590 --> 01:03:26,370
democracy.

1059
01:03:26,430 --> 01:03:28,500
United States of America is not
a democracy. We are a

1060
01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:31,020
constitutional republic, United
States of America is not a

1061
01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:34,230
democracy. If you don't want to
be in a democracy. We are not a

1062
01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:39,270
democracy. We are a republic. Is
America a democracy? America

1063
01:03:39,330 --> 01:03:42,600
is a democracy. It was founded
as a democracy. I've heard a

1064
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,330
lot of conspiracy theories. I
hear a lot of things, conspiracy

1065
01:03:45,330 --> 01:03:49,800
theories out on the road. But
theory, oh, wait to hear

1066
01:03:49,830 --> 01:03:53,760
Americans, people who would
describe themselves as patriots,

1067
01:03:54,180 --> 01:03:58,470
who say that America is not a
democracy. That stopped me in my

1068
01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:58,920
tracks.

1069
01:03:59,190 --> 01:04:03,000
You are hearing people say
America is not a democracy,

1070
01:04:03,210 --> 01:04:06,840
because there are people around
Trump who want them to be saying

1071
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,120
that who've been planting that
narrative. Is

1072
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,320
America democracy.

1073
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:12,750
I don't I think well not wearing

1074
01:04:14,010 --> 01:04:14,910
our republic.

1075
01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:16,080
What's the difference?

1076
01:04:17,250 --> 01:04:27,810
I feel like democracy. Through
government. I don't see freedom

1077
01:04:27,810 --> 01:04:33,870
and democracy I see freedom.
Honestly, the word democracy and

1078
01:04:33,870 --> 01:04:37,110
the word Republic have often
been used interchangeably. There

1079
01:04:37,110 --> 01:04:40,350
isn't a meaningful difference
between them. So much

1080
01:04:40,380 --> 01:04:44,580
of the warnings and criticism
about Trump is that he is a

1081
01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:48,060
threat to democracy that he is
anti democratic. Absolutely.

1082
01:04:48,060 --> 01:04:51,570
If they can convince people that
we don't have a democracy, then

1083
01:04:51,570 --> 01:04:54,420
it's okay that Trump is
attacking democracy because it

1084
01:04:54,420 --> 01:04:56,670
doesn't really matter. So

1085
01:04:56,670 --> 01:04:58,620
Adam Curry: the strongest part
of that piece is of course

1086
01:04:58,620 --> 01:05:02,640
having Reagan and Bush Talk
about our democracy. How do we

1087
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,970
square that with saying we don't
have a democracy?

1088
01:05:09,690 --> 01:05:12,900
John C Dvorak: Well, that was
they were Reagan and Bush. Were

1089
01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:16,020
doing the same thing that the
Democrats do, which is call

1090
01:05:16,020 --> 01:05:19,800
everything a democracy when it's
a constitutional republic, which

1091
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,250
is what it is. And it's not a
conspiracy. That's what it is

1092
01:05:23,250 --> 01:05:27,390
what it is conspiracy theory,
conspiracy theory, we don't even

1093
01:05:27,390 --> 01:05:29,700
do direct voting for the
President, even though I think

1094
01:05:29,700 --> 01:05:32,280
they would love that. But we
don't we have the Electoral

1095
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,250
College in between as a buffer
as a shim.

1096
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,260
Adam Curry: Well, so So this,
but this is kind of the

1097
01:05:37,260 --> 01:05:41,370
messaging and you know, so yeah,
I'm sure Google will surface

1098
01:05:41,370 --> 01:05:44,880
this type of stuff. That
Constitutional Republic is a

1099
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:50,100
conspiracy theory. Look at
Reagan. Great boy. Yeah. Well,

1100
01:05:50,700 --> 01:05:55,020
it was well done. And then of
course, we also need to attack

1101
01:05:55,170 --> 01:06:00,120
flags, flags, as flags are so
important. I mean, throughout

1102
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:04,920
history, flags are a big deal.
And who better to ask all

1103
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,580
cultures? Yes. And who better to
ask about flag gates. This is a

1104
01:06:08,730 --> 01:06:14,700
Supreme Court, Justice Alito,
whose wife flew the upside the

1105
01:06:14,730 --> 01:06:17,670
American flag upside down
international sign of distress,

1106
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:22,950
and also raised the pine pine
tree flag, which is the so

1107
01:06:22,950 --> 01:06:26,670
called appeal to heaven flag.
And let's ask Mayor Pete,

1108
01:06:26,670 --> 01:06:29,130
because there's nothing better
than a McKinsey graduate

1109
01:06:29,850 --> 01:06:33,600
McKinsey alum to ask about these
important questions.

1110
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:36,330
Unknown: There was a secret
recording made at a meeting

1111
01:06:36,330 --> 01:06:39,120
where many Supreme Court
justices and their spouses were

1112
01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:41,790
and Martha AnnaLena, the wife of
Supreme Court Justice Samuel

1113
01:06:41,790 --> 01:06:46,680
Alito, was discussing how she
feels about apparently a pride

1114
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:47,700
flag that

1115
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,210
says, Listen, I want a Sacred

1116
01:06:51,210 --> 01:06:54,570
Heart of Jesus flag, because I
have to look across the lagoon

1117
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:55,500
at the pride flag.

1118
01:06:55,710 --> 01:06:57,450
Adam Curry: Did you hear that?
She says she wants a Sacred

1119
01:06:57,450 --> 01:07:00,930
Heart of Jesus flag. So I'll
make sure you heard that because

1120
01:07:00,930 --> 01:07:03,720
it's I did not hear that. Yeah,
that's what she say this is that

1121
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:09,630
horrible undercover recording?
From the woman who believes in

1122
01:07:09,630 --> 01:07:13,530
the mother of Gaia, from
California Gaia woman, the guy

1123
01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:16,740
or woman? Yes, worshipping earth
like any good pagan would that

1124
01:07:16,740 --> 01:07:17,400
was flown off

1125
01:07:18,060 --> 01:07:19,620
John C Dvorak: pagan pagans do.

1126
01:07:19,950 --> 01:07:23,820
Unknown: I want a Sacred Heart
of Jesus flag, because I have to

1127
01:07:23,820 --> 01:07:26,670
look across the lagoon at the
pride flag for the next month.

1128
01:07:27,780 --> 01:07:30,540
And he's like, Oh, please don't
put up a flag. I said, I won't

1129
01:07:30,540 --> 01:07:33,600
do it. Because I'm deferring to
you. But when you are free of

1130
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,690
this nonsense, I'm putting it
up. And I'm gonna send them a

1131
01:07:36,690 --> 01:07:37,620
message every day.

1132
01:07:37,710 --> 01:07:39,480
How does that make you feel
knowing that the wife of a

1133
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,860
Supreme Court justice, wants to
send a message to people with a

1134
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,000
pride flag?

1135
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:49,800
Look, I'm often reminded that
the most important thing in my

1136
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:55,050
life, which is my marriage, and
my family, and the two beautiful

1137
01:07:55,050 --> 01:07:58,890
children that my husband Chaston
and I are raising that that

1138
01:07:58,890 --> 01:08:02,820
marriage only exists by the
grace of a single vote on the

1139
01:08:02,820 --> 01:08:07,050
United States Supreme Court that
expanded our rights and freedoms

1140
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:10,170
back in 2015, and made it
possible for Edie

1141
01:08:10,170 --> 01:08:15,240
Adam Curry: expanded his rights
and freedoms. You see it, he has

1142
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,240
expanded his rights and freedoms
because he's so suppressed, that

1143
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:22,890
Unknown: expanded our rights and
freedoms back in 2015, and made

1144
01:08:22,890 --> 01:08:27,630
it possible for somebody like me
to get married. And, you know,

1145
01:08:27,690 --> 01:08:32,310
Supreme Court justices have an
unbelievable amount of power.

1146
01:08:32,820 --> 01:08:37,080
And, and by the nature in the
structure, the Supreme Court,

1147
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:41,040
there's no supervision over that
power. They're entrusted with it

1148
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:46,050
literally for as long as they
live. And part of that trust is

1149
01:08:46,050 --> 01:08:50,880
we expect them to enter into
those enormously consequential

1150
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,750
decisions that that shape our
everyday lives, with a sense of

1151
01:08:54,750 --> 01:08:58,350
fairness, I also hope that most
Americans can understand the

1152
01:08:58,350 --> 01:09:05,370
difference between a flag that
symbolizes you know, love and

1153
01:09:05,370 --> 01:09:09,060
acceptance and signals to people
who have sometimes feared for

1154
01:09:09,060 --> 01:09:14,400
their safety that they're going
to be okay. And insurrectionists

1155
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:15,120
symbology

1156
01:09:15,180 --> 01:09:19,410
Adam Curry: No, there it is.
There it is Trump

1157
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,949
John C Dvorak: but they said
something in there he says about

1158
01:09:23,009 --> 01:09:29,189
you know, I wish I could put
remember what is exact phrase

1159
01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:35,489
was but it seems to me that for
one thing, I think, the same

1160
01:09:35,489 --> 01:09:38,399
Democrats who are extolling the
virtues of women and giving the

1161
01:09:38,399 --> 01:09:42,329
and empowering them to have a
Leo's wife who's got nothing

1162
01:09:42,329 --> 01:09:44,999
she's not on the Supreme Court.
I hate to mention this to you

1163
01:09:45,029 --> 01:09:47,609
though she's not on there doing
anything. So what she got to do

1164
01:09:47,609 --> 01:09:48,659
it decisive with this

1165
01:09:48,659 --> 01:09:50,819
Adam Curry: price. Price? Yes.

1166
01:09:51,899 --> 01:09:54,149
John C Dvorak: It's just
ridiculous. And then what is he

1167
01:09:54,149 --> 01:10:00,089
supposed to be told Shut up
woman. Get into the kitchen I

1168
01:10:00,089 --> 01:10:03,059
mean, what what exactly are
they? Are they angling for here?

1169
01:10:03,059 --> 01:10:04,589
They can have a mixed message?

1170
01:10:04,620 --> 01:10:07,620
Adam Curry: Well, I think the
again, it's comes down to the

1171
01:10:07,620 --> 01:10:12,930
same thing. The whole point is
to associate flags, American

1172
01:10:12,930 --> 01:10:20,250
flags. Faith flags to equate
that with insurrectionists ie

1173
01:10:20,250 --> 01:10:23,340
Trump. That's the whole point.
Yes,

1174
01:10:23,340 --> 01:10:26,550
John C Dvorak: that was a poorly
made point. And I should just

1175
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:32,160
mention something as an aside.
So this weekend on catchy TV or

1176
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:36,120
whatever it is one of the over
the air channels. They've had a

1177
01:10:37,260 --> 01:10:44,190
24/7 marathon of laughing shows
from 68. Goldie Hawn, he went on

1178
01:10:44,970 --> 01:10:49,440
to believe she was one of the
many cast members. And they were

1179
01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:52,290
bitching about this. It was a
very political show, you don't

1180
01:10:52,290 --> 01:10:55,290
realize that most of the issues
were this are today's issues.

1181
01:10:55,290 --> 01:10:58,020
And this is from ninth this last
show. I was watching the dad had

1182
01:10:58,020 --> 01:11:02,790
this thing in 1971 show. They
were bitching about the Supreme

1183
01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:07,170
Court? No, of course, of course,
literally. Because at the time

1184
01:11:07,170 --> 01:11:12,360
the Supreme Court was somewhat
liberal. And this was the era of

1185
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,410
bumper stickers that said, you
know, impeach Earl Warren, who

1186
01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:21,900
was a Reuters Republican
governor of California,

1187
01:11:21,900 --> 01:11:24,330
Republican governor of
California, but he was a very

1188
01:11:24,330 --> 01:11:28,680
liberal, Supreme Court justice.
And the right wing was going

1189
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:33,480
nuts over zero Warren's impeach
Earl Warren. And this was kind

1190
01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:35,070
of reflected in the

1191
01:11:35,370 --> 01:11:37,380
Adam Curry: print. But in those
days, we had three television

1192
01:11:37,380 --> 01:11:41,130
channels and no YouTube. And and
no, Google.

1193
01:11:41,940 --> 01:11:44,580
John C Dvorak: No, but the
complaining was the same. Well,

1194
01:11:44,580 --> 01:11:47,280
there's always people have been
bitching and moaning about the

1195
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,240
Supreme Court from the get go,
and it's just like, Okay, give

1196
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,790
it a rest. And now they're
complaining about the Supreme

1197
01:11:53,790 --> 01:11:58,740
Court justices wives that was
not in play back in the day.

1198
01:11:58,770 --> 01:12:02,280
Adam Curry: Well, now we have
also not in the play back in the

1199
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,520
day was media organization
taking down other media

1200
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,370
organizations. I don't think
that that was considered

1201
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,280
ungentlemanly. unsportsmanlike,

1202
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,880
John C Dvorak: was the same
thing with writers. writers

1203
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,240
would never condemn other
writers and, yeah, that's true.

1204
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:22,320
It was, it was. It was
unwritten, unwritten code. Yes.

1205
01:12:22,350 --> 01:12:25,530
Adam Curry: So you've probably
heard that the I think the owner

1206
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:30,180
of epic times, or the I think
the financial guy, someone's in

1207
01:12:30,180 --> 01:12:30,720
trouble.

1208
01:12:31,290 --> 01:12:33,570
John C Dvorak: He was a money
guy, CFO,

1209
01:12:33,570 --> 01:12:36,990
Adam Curry: I think, yeah, the
money guy got arrested for I

1210
01:12:36,990 --> 01:12:41,130
haven't looked into it. But
okay, whatever. But that's not

1211
01:12:41,130 --> 01:12:45,120
what this is about. No, no, no,
no. I mean, we know the epic

1212
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:49,230
times were in fact, I would say
we've used lots of material from

1213
01:12:49,260 --> 01:12:51,780
Epic times, because they're
reporting at least isn't your

1214
01:12:51,780 --> 01:12:57,420
typical political base
reporting. Would you say that's

1215
01:12:57,450 --> 01:12:58,530
Is that a fair statement, I

1216
01:12:58,530 --> 01:13:00,180
John C Dvorak: think is much
more objective than the

1217
01:13:00,180 --> 01:13:02,610
mainstream media. Object
newspapers.

1218
01:13:02,730 --> 01:13:06,540
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, you're
wrong. Here's NBC. NBC is

1219
01:13:06,540 --> 01:13:07,080
reporting.

1220
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:10,470
Unknown: The Epoch Times is a
conservative news outlet. They

1221
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:14,010
have newspapers, and they have a
website. And what you'll see is

1222
01:13:14,010 --> 01:13:19,530
very pro, Trump conservative,
ultra conservative content. It's

1223
01:13:19,530 --> 01:13:23,760
come up in 2016 as a real player
in the conservative ecosystem.

1224
01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:27,540
Before then it was really known
as just a Chinese language

1225
01:13:27,540 --> 01:13:31,590
newspaper that was associated
with Falun Gong, and Falun Gong,

1226
01:13:31,620 --> 01:13:34,500
it's a movement. It's a
religious spiritual movement.

1227
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:40,050
That's headed by a man named
Master Li Hong Xiu, Master Li,

1228
01:13:40,230 --> 01:13:44,160
lives in Dragon Springs, New
York. He lives and he is the

1229
01:13:44,190 --> 01:13:47,280
head of this religion. So all
the people in this religion

1230
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,400
Adam Curry: pagine I know oh, by
the way, you get the this is the

1231
01:13:50,820 --> 01:13:54,510
I know she's a millennial, she
may be z. And they get her to do

1232
01:13:54,510 --> 01:13:58,200
this piece with her fry and her
up talk and then yes, it's

1233
01:13:58,230 --> 01:14:02,400
fallen go bed, his bed about and
that but following Gong

1234
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,950
explained following Gong before
we continue with this, there

1235
01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:07,380
John C Dvorak: was a bunch of
these I actually had a little

1236
01:14:07,380 --> 01:14:10,980
exposition about this for some
years back and I don't have all

1237
01:14:10,980 --> 01:14:15,120
of it at the tip of my tongue,
but it was part of a there was a

1238
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,670
bunch of these movements, these
meditative movement

1239
01:14:18,300 --> 01:14:20,610
Adam Curry: isn't yoga or
something. It was kind of like a

1240
01:14:20,610 --> 01:14:24,990
yoga but she does. She does go
into that later and fall

1241
01:14:24,990 --> 01:14:26,940
John C Dvorak: on Gong was the
one that became the most

1242
01:14:26,940 --> 01:14:31,410
successful and it became they
the Chinese government felt it

1243
01:14:31,410 --> 01:14:35,430
was politicizing itself and
becoming a voting bloc or of

1244
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:38,460
block that could cause trouble
down the road. So it was banned.

1245
01:14:38,490 --> 01:14:41,550
Now there can all of it was foul
on Gong, the fact there was a

1246
01:14:41,550 --> 01:14:46,920
bunch of these following F al U
ns. And it was just one of many.

1247
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:51,870
And it became the last one man
standing and it became cutting

1248
01:14:51,870 --> 01:14:55,800
as controversial and all kinds
of different directions. And

1249
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,670
it's very but it's but I'd say
it is based at this point in

1250
01:14:59,670 --> 01:15:02,850
history. It's anti Chinese. No,
no,

1251
01:15:03,150 --> 01:15:06,150
Adam Curry: no, they're pro
Trump. You've got it all wrong

1252
01:15:06,150 --> 01:15:09,300
man is pro Trump. Bring out the
Gen Z here.

1253
01:15:09,330 --> 01:15:12,330
John C Dvorak: By the way the
Falun Gong cares nothing about

1254
01:15:12,330 --> 01:15:13,920
Trump you are okay so

1255
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,340
Unknown: wrong is that the head
of this religion? So all the

1256
01:15:17,340 --> 01:15:21,390
people in this religion have
their time at one of the media

1257
01:15:21,390 --> 01:15:25,590
arms now there's the Epoch
Times. That's the newspaper. And

1258
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:29,820
then there is NDTV and that's
the television component or

1259
01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:30,750
video component.

1260
01:15:30,990 --> 01:15:32,820
John C Dvorak: Yes. And T D.

1261
01:15:32,820 --> 01:15:36,630
Adam Curry: She said no, no, no,
no, no, no, she's NDTV is what

1262
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:42,300
she says. But it's no NTD is not
is not a part of epic times

1263
01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:48,240
isn't NTD No, she says in NDTV.
She says she's wrong.

1264
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,330
John C Dvorak: It's not NDTV.
She's talking about anti D which

1265
01:15:51,330 --> 01:15:52,680
is part of the epoch

1266
01:15:53,730 --> 01:16:00,300
Adam Curry: about NDTV. NDTV
that's a real thing. NDTV she's

1267
01:16:00,300 --> 01:16:01,950
not talking about NTD.

1268
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,090
John C Dvorak: Okay, yeah, there
is something else NDTV I'd like

1269
01:16:06,090 --> 01:16:07,800
yeah, no, I'll check it out.
Yeah,

1270
01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:10,920
Adam Curry: yeah, you can't on
that machine. But believe me,

1271
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:11,700
and I can

1272
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:13,680
John C Dvorak: I got a browser
here. I just don't don't have

1273
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,240
Twitter. We'll go to Google.
They'll

1274
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:16,680
Adam Curry: tell you to vote for
Biden, that

1275
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,910
Unknown: newspaper. And then
there is the TV and that's the

1276
01:16:20,910 --> 01:16:23,400
television component and the
video component. And then

1277
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,700
there's Shen Yun, and Shin Eun,
if you've seen the ubiquitous

1278
01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:30,960
advertisements everywhere, it's
a traditional Chinese dance

1279
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:35,940
troupe with a very anti
communist China message. The

1280
01:16:35,940 --> 01:16:38,190
whole point of all of this anti
communist

1281
01:16:38,190 --> 01:16:40,200
Adam Curry: dance must go pro
Trump.

1282
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,560
John C Dvorak: That again she
she made she's now there is no

1283
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,010
such thing as in dt. NDTV

1284
01:16:47,010 --> 01:16:49,500
Adam Curry: is what she said.
She said no, I put these clips

1285
01:16:49,500 --> 01:16:50,760
together myself. And

1286
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:54,660
John C Dvorak: she said she's
wrong. She's not it's N T D?

1287
01:16:54,690 --> 01:16:59,460
Adam Curry: No. Go to ndtv.com
John, okay,

1288
01:16:59,490 --> 01:17:02,070
John C Dvorak: you are wrong.
And you're gonna get away like

1289
01:17:02,070 --> 01:17:05,220
I'm doing I'm going to actually
go on the browser crazy

1290
01:17:05,220 --> 01:17:07,620
Adam Curry: thought man crazy.
While you're at it, look at that

1291
01:17:07,620 --> 01:17:10,020
cool PCR machine from the meet
up China

1292
01:17:10,470 --> 01:17:12,990
Unknown: message. So the whole
point of all of these things,

1293
01:17:12,990 --> 01:17:16,050
whether it's Epoch Times, or
Shen Yun is to relay this

1294
01:17:16,050 --> 01:17:18,810
message that the end of the
world is coming. If you are

1295
01:17:18,810 --> 01:17:21,630
aligned with communism, you will
go to a sort of hell. And if you

1296
01:17:21,630 --> 01:17:24,450
are not wanting to communism, if
you align yourself with Falun

1297
01:17:24,450 --> 01:17:27,480
Gong than you will be spared and
you will go to heaven. So it's a

1298
01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:30,660
sort of an apocalyptic sort of
cult, not unlike a lot of

1299
01:17:30,660 --> 01:17:33,360
religions. But what's
interesting is that they're

1300
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:38,640
using their money to really back
Trump. They're using

1301
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,540
Adam Curry: their money to back
Trump. You are so wrong. I'm

1302
01:17:42,540 --> 01:17:45,270
sorry. He's just wrong on all
fronts on this one. So

1303
01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:49,590
John C Dvorak: here's the other
one. NDTV Yes, sir New Delhi

1304
01:17:49,590 --> 01:17:56,160
television out of India. NDTV
meaning N T D.

1305
01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:58,890
Adam Curry: But isn't NTV the
New Tang Dynasty?

1306
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:02,850
John C Dvorak: Yeah, New Tang
Dynasty is part of following

1307
01:18:02,850 --> 01:18:03,450
Gong.

1308
01:18:04,740 --> 01:18:07,680
Adam Curry: Well, this is an
outrage. She can't

1309
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,140
John C Dvorak: even get her
story straight, let alone you

1310
01:18:10,140 --> 01:18:12,120
getting it straight. And in
defending her.

1311
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,390
Adam Curry: I'm defending what
she said. She said NDTV That's

1312
01:18:15,390 --> 01:18:17,340
what I said. Yeah.

1313
01:18:17,370 --> 01:18:19,920
John C Dvorak: So Delhi
television is not a follow on

1314
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,530
cog operation. Okay. Sure. You
wait,

1315
01:18:22,530 --> 01:18:27,000
Adam Curry: but wait, let's
continue because it's still the

1316
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:31,260
all they're doing. They only
exist to be pro Trump. This is

1317
01:18:31,260 --> 01:18:31,950
the story.

1318
01:18:32,070 --> 01:18:34,620
Unknown: And they're aligning
themselves with evangelicals.

1319
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,680
And just you know, conservatives
on the, you

1320
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,300
Adam Curry: know, it's
interesting pastor Jimmy just

1321
01:18:39,300 --> 01:18:41,880
just handed out epic times at
church the other day, like,

1322
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,130
thanks. Yeah, oh, the
evangelicals are all in with

1323
01:18:44,130 --> 01:18:45,030
Falun Gong,

1324
01:18:45,150 --> 01:18:47,700
Unknown: and they're aligning
themselves with Evangelicals,

1325
01:18:47,850 --> 01:18:50,910
and just, you know,
conservatives on the internet to

1326
01:18:50,910 --> 01:18:54,390
really push a pro Trump method
that really seems to be working

1327
01:18:54,420 --> 01:18:59,460
they have gone from a really
it's working or no

1328
01:19:00,210 --> 01:19:03,660
Adam Curry: mucking about. It's
working just so you know, it's

1329
01:19:03,660 --> 01:19:09,900
working. The whole point is to
discredit and epic times it's

1330
01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:13,620
they're taking down another news
organizations Oh,

1331
01:19:13,620 --> 01:19:15,510
John C Dvorak: they're just at
you know, you're just asking for

1332
01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:18,210
trouble. This is ridiculous
report. This woman should be

1333
01:19:18,210 --> 01:19:19,440
ashamed. Better,

1334
01:19:19,470 --> 01:19:21,960
Unknown: we fledgling newspaper
where no one was really reading

1335
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,060
it, it cost $1 Sometimes it was
free on the

1336
01:19:24,060 --> 01:19:27,270
Adam Curry: students was crazy.
A news organization, it only

1337
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:30,240
costs $1. I mean, how can you
pay salaries,

1338
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:34,350
Unknown: and now they are
everywhere here. senior editors

1339
01:19:34,380 --> 01:19:37,470
were in Trump Tower earlier this
year interviewing Laura Trump.

1340
01:19:38,940 --> 01:19:42,150
They're interviewing
congressman, celebrities kind

1341
01:19:42,150 --> 01:19:43,890
Adam Curry: of funny though,
because, you know, they're

1342
01:19:43,890 --> 01:19:48,120
against communism, you know,
like Trump is bloodmeal what is

1343
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,080
Biden then?

1344
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,340
Unknown: Me is like, you know,
diamond and silk. Oh, no,

1345
01:19:53,340 --> 01:19:55,590
Adam Curry: diamond and silk.
Oh, they're really poor. All

1346
01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:57,720
this stuff. So pro Trump,
Candace Owens

1347
01:19:57,750 --> 01:20:00,870
Unknown: and Ted Cruz. They're
really Coming up in the

1348
01:20:00,870 --> 01:20:04,350
conservative movement, and it's
important to know who's behind

1349
01:20:04,350 --> 01:20:06,570
this, you know, something else
they've done that's really

1350
01:20:06,570 --> 01:20:09,960
interesting lately and why we
started looking at them is they

1351
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:14,010
started buying Facebook ads,
they've spent $1.5 million on

1352
01:20:14,010 --> 01:20:18,510
11,000 Facebook ads this year
alone. And all of the ads are

1353
01:20:18,510 --> 01:20:22,890
very pro. They also push a
conspiratorial message and

1354
01:20:22,890 --> 01:20:27,180
following Gong itself is really
interesting because it started

1355
01:20:27,210 --> 01:20:31,410
in the 1990s. It started in
China. And it was headed by

1356
01:20:31,530 --> 01:20:35,400
Master Li and Master Li sort of
came up with this new practice.

1357
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,640
It was a little bit of
mysticism, a little bit of

1358
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:42,810
Buddhism, a little bit of yoga.
And so what he did is he made

1359
01:20:42,810 --> 01:20:45,960
this process as some one expert
described to me, he made this

1360
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,530
process of meditation, and
Transcendentalism really, really

1361
01:20:49,530 --> 01:20:52,620
simple. So there are five
exercises, you know, people

1362
01:20:52,830 --> 01:20:55,020
older people could do them in
the park. You see them all

1363
01:20:55,020 --> 01:20:58,080
around New York City doing the
exercises now, and it was really

1364
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:02,190
easy. But it also came with some
pretty out there ideas.

1365
01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:07,710
John C Dvorak: Out there ideas
she's talking about people doing

1366
01:21:07,710 --> 01:21:10,710
in the park is was What is it
where you're

1367
01:21:13,110 --> 01:21:15,420
Adam Curry: playing Frisbee,
playing Frisbee? No, no.

1368
01:21:17,070 --> 01:21:19,920
John C Dvorak: No, you know that
the the Chinese exercise, which

1369
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:25,350
is a slow motion, kung Tai Chi
is a tai chi. Yeah, yeah, that's

1370
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:27,480
what they're doing in the park.
You're not sitting around

1371
01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:31,740
meditating. I mean, this is, by
the way, it's not that much

1372
01:21:31,740 --> 01:21:33,990
different that meditation
technique. They're using then

1373
01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:36,870
Transcendental Meditation, which
was a big thing with the

1374
01:21:36,870 --> 01:21:37,650
liberals,

1375
01:21:37,740 --> 01:21:40,590
Adam Curry: which you can see on
NDTV from India.

1376
01:21:42,180 --> 01:21:43,980
Unknown: or Yes, yes.

1377
01:21:44,190 --> 01:21:46,980
Adam Curry: I got one more clip
here. It's just it was it's just

1378
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:51,600
what this is what the whole idea
is, is to continuously to

1379
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:56,040
continuously just propagandize
people and it's the same message

1380
01:21:56,040 --> 01:22:01,560
over and over again. Conspiracy
Theory, pro Trump. Ruining

1381
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:06,240
democracy, conspiracy theory,
pro Trump ruining democracy with

1382
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:06,750
an ultra

1383
01:22:06,750 --> 01:22:11,130
Unknown: conservative worldview
behind Falun Gong, so they don't

1384
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,830
support gay people.

1385
01:22:13,890 --> 01:22:19,500
Adam Curry: They are I don't
support gay people. Oh, now

1386
01:22:19,500 --> 01:22:22,650
you're in trouble Falun Gong, is
that true? Do they are they are

1387
01:22:22,650 --> 01:22:26,010
they are they haters? Are they
never heard the gays? Well, they

1388
01:22:26,010 --> 01:22:27,300
don't support the fact

1389
01:22:27,300 --> 01:22:29,340
John C Dvorak: that they have
anything to do as Shin Jung, if

1390
01:22:29,340 --> 01:22:31,800
you haven't seen I mean, I
haven't seen that presentation.

1391
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,960
But just looking at the
commercials for it is that if

1392
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,460
that's not gay, I don't know
what

1393
01:22:37,410 --> 01:22:41,280
Unknown: people they are anti
pop music. They don't they hate

1394
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:46,470
pop music part feminism. They
rail against any sort of like

1395
01:22:46,500 --> 01:22:50,970
modernism, I mean, part of their
their motto is traditionalism.

1396
01:22:50,970 --> 01:22:54,240
It's also important to know that
in China, they were banned in

1397
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,610
the 90s Because China didn't
like the fact that they were

1398
01:22:56,610 --> 01:22:57,690
becoming so popular.

1399
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,550
Adam Curry: Why is that
important to know is the

1400
01:22:59,550 --> 01:23:03,960
question, it's important to know
that China banned, banned and

1401
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,360
Unknown: so they imprisoned some
of their people of their

1402
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,600
followers. And human rights
organizations say that they

1403
01:23:09,810 --> 01:23:13,590
tortured and killed many so
masterly brought his followers

1404
01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:17,520
here. He moved here himself, and
he lives in New York. And what

1405
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:21,510
he does is he runs a commie in
the air with many followers,

1406
01:23:21,540 --> 01:23:25,530
they believe things that former
practitioners have told us are

1407
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,190
unsettling. So one of them is,
you know, the aliens are real.

1408
01:23:29,190 --> 01:23:32,580
One is that they discourage the
taking of medicine, because

1409
01:23:32,700 --> 01:23:36,030
masterly has taught that
sickness is caused by some sort

1410
01:23:36,030 --> 01:23:40,230
of evil inside of you, and then
it can fall and gone. Are you

1411
01:23:41,340 --> 01:23:45,060
John C Dvorak: seen anything
like that in my life? Why is she

1412
01:23:45,060 --> 01:23:48,330
going to go into the Christian?
What was which is the group that

1413
01:23:49,170 --> 01:23:53,460
refuses to take anything
whatsoever Amish should decide?

1414
01:23:55,290 --> 01:23:57,450
As a Christian, what's the name
of that group?

1415
01:23:58,470 --> 01:24:00,270
Adam Curry: There's only 30
seconds left. So I don't think

1416
01:24:00,270 --> 01:24:00,510
so

1417
01:24:00,540 --> 01:24:03,600
Unknown: masterly has taught
that sickness is caused by some

1418
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,800
sort of evil inside of you, and
then it can, Falun Gong can cure

1419
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,130
you of that. So, you know, these
are all things that we've heard,

1420
01:24:11,130 --> 01:24:12,210
but the overarching

1421
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,220
Adam Curry: music bed is kind of
interesting. What that shows is

1422
01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:17,850
kind of a Ping Pong Pong, kind
of like a, like an Asian wind

1423
01:24:17,850 --> 01:24:24,480
chime. Long, long, long AI.
Background music, Chinese ping

1424
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:25,260
pong. On

1425
01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:27,930
Unknown: contrary, you have
that. So, you know, these are

1426
01:24:27,930 --> 01:24:30,960
all things that we've heard. But
the overarching narrative is

1427
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,930
that, you know, Falun Gong
believers believe that we are

1428
01:24:33,930 --> 01:24:36,900
headed toward a judgement day
where communists and non

1429
01:24:36,900 --> 01:24:39,600
communist will be pitted against
each other. So all of these

1430
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,230
outreach efforts, whether it's
Epoch Times, or Shin Eun or NDTV

1431
01:24:43,230 --> 01:24:47,310
are all out there to sort of
save the souls of sentient

1432
01:24:47,310 --> 01:24:50,910
beings they say this is all an
effort to not only you know when

1433
01:24:50,910 --> 01:24:54,690
your soul not only you know when
to vote for Donald Trump, but

1434
01:24:54,690 --> 01:24:56,520
also you know, to save the
world.

1435
01:24:57,900 --> 01:25:00,930
John C Dvorak: Hope young you
know They should be ashamed of

1436
01:25:00,930 --> 01:25:04,080
themselves for putting their
money. She keeps saying NDTV by

1437
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:11,010
the way. Yeah, right to the end.
So she's clueless. That is a

1438
01:25:11,010 --> 01:25:12,090
shameful report.

1439
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:13,020
Adam Curry: Yeah,

1440
01:25:13,050 --> 01:25:15,810
John C Dvorak: I hope you're
bigoted. It's a bigoted,

1441
01:25:15,810 --> 01:25:20,430
shameful anti. Okay, while she's
like doing the bidding of the

1442
01:25:20,430 --> 01:25:22,440
Chinese Communist parties, yes.

1443
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,420
Adam Curry: Quite possibly.
Well, I'll just wrap up my my

1444
01:25:27,420 --> 01:25:32,820
media overview with the two more
topics. And the first one is, of

1445
01:25:32,820 --> 01:25:37,950
course, Alex Jones. We have an
update on cars Friday, he was in

1446
01:25:37,950 --> 01:25:42,150
court for me to determine what
will happen with Infowars. I

1447
01:25:42,420 --> 01:25:47,040
actually got a call from sort of
Lucifer who works there. And he

1448
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:52,920
was yeah, he says the the mood
is not great. There's the ice 55

1449
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,280
zero people working there.
People who've worked with him

1450
01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:01,920
there for 15 years. And 55
people you said 5050 people?

1451
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:06,450
Five D? Yeah. five zeros. A lot
of people. Big operation. Yeah.

1452
01:26:06,660 --> 01:26:09,270
Yeah. Well, that's I think it's
gonna end here. This

1453
01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:12,660
Unknown: is an attempt at
Digital assassination.

1454
01:26:12,690 --> 01:26:16,230
conspiracy theorist Alex Jones
was defiant in front of a

1455
01:26:16,230 --> 01:26:19,800
federal courthouse today, vowing
that the government may shut him

1456
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:24,060
down, but they won't shut him
up. This is probably the end of

1457
01:26:24,060 --> 01:26:27,750
Infowars a federal judge in
Houston ordered Jones to

1458
01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:31,170
liquidate his personal assets,
worth an estimated four to $6

1459
01:26:31,170 --> 01:26:35,790
million to start paying the
Sandy Hook families the $1.5

1460
01:26:35,790 --> 01:26:40,440
billion in defamation damages he
owes them the decision will also

1461
01:26:40,440 --> 01:26:44,190
force Jones to auction off his
jewelry and gun collection. An

1462
01:26:44,190 --> 01:26:47,910
attorney for Jones said $2
million is already sitting in

1463
01:26:47,910 --> 01:26:51,540
escrow for the families. After
Jones sold the Texas ranch

1464
01:26:51,750 --> 01:26:55,710
Marlin court. Another episode of
the Alex Jones Show aired on

1465
01:26:55,710 --> 01:26:59,790
infowars.com the platform where
Jones spread his conspiracy

1466
01:26:59,790 --> 01:27:03,090
theories, the judge ruled that
the company doesn't have to

1467
01:27:03,090 --> 01:27:06,870
liquidate its assets, but that
Jones will not control the

1468
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:11,040
money. The whole thing of the
giant courts in both Texas and

1469
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,580
Connecticut found Jones liable
for defamation after he called

1470
01:27:14,580 --> 01:27:18,540
the attack fake a hoax and
called grieving parents crisis

1471
01:27:18,540 --> 01:27:22,110
actors for Robbie Parker, whose
daughter Emily was one of the 20

1472
01:27:22,110 --> 01:27:26,100
students killed at Sandy Hook in
2012. This case is not about

1473
01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:28,830
money. But accountabilities the
reason

1474
01:27:28,830 --> 01:27:30,930
that accountability is important
for me is because that's part of

1475
01:27:30,930 --> 01:27:31,890
the healing process.

1476
01:27:32,670 --> 01:27:35,790
The hearing comes the same week,
the survivors of the Sandy Hook

1477
01:27:35,790 --> 01:27:39,450
massacre graduate from high
school former classmates wore

1478
01:27:39,450 --> 01:27:43,080
green and white pins to honor
their memory, a memory Parker

1479
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:44,640
hopes never fades,

1480
01:27:44,700 --> 01:27:46,890
Adam Curry: some of the
communications between the

1481
01:27:46,890 --> 01:27:49,560
families have been just very
beautiful. And so it is touching

1482
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:53,160
and it is emotional. Now this is
obviously to send a message and

1483
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:57,090
I gotta tell you, from my from
my money message received

1484
01:27:59,250 --> 01:28:08,220
message received 1.1 $1.4
billion in a libel suit. Wow. So

1485
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:12,720
so it seems like he'll be able
to continue somehow. Well,

1486
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,780
John C Dvorak: he's already know
he's got his. Okay, so he's

1487
01:28:15,780 --> 01:28:21,390
going to lose everything. Let's
take it what's gonna happen? The

1488
01:28:21,390 --> 01:28:25,140
worst case scenario, he loses
everything, they auction off all

1489
01:28:25,140 --> 01:28:28,680
his stuff, they auction off
everything he owns. And he's got

1490
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,260
a gun collection, whatever that
is, and the rest of the coins,

1491
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:35,220
like gold coins, challenge
coins, eggs, some challenge

1492
01:28:35,220 --> 01:28:39,420
because it's all gone. Got
nothing left. This is the

1493
01:28:39,420 --> 01:28:42,990
internet era, he can start up
over? No,

1494
01:28:42,990 --> 01:28:45,270
Adam Curry: but I think I think
that he will have to continue

1495
01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:49,470
giving. They can take the money
he makes in the future, too.

1496
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:52,770
John C Dvorak: I think that's
probably true. But it would be

1497
01:28:52,770 --> 01:28:55,950
on a payment schedule. So it'd
be like, like buying a car,

1498
01:28:55,980 --> 01:29:01,080
you'd have to keep paying month
after month. But he is also

1499
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,840
bankruptcy issues here that he
you should be able to get out of

1500
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:07,410
some of this. And I mean, that's
what the news video is does it

1501
01:29:07,410 --> 01:29:10,260
go bankrupt or somebody Sue's
them within an inch of their

1502
01:29:10,260 --> 01:29:16,500
life. And so he's he's got he
knows how to do this. He knows

1503
01:29:16,500 --> 01:29:20,160
the business, he can start up
from scratch and build it up

1504
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,430
rather quickly. He knows all the
vitamin people that he can get

1505
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:27,030
the product from he just changed
the name of the product. And he

1506
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:29,310
could also do stuff through
third parties. There's a lot of

1507
01:29:29,310 --> 01:29:32,310
ways he can go. He's not an old
guy who's just oh, well,

1508
01:29:32,310 --> 01:29:37,920
whatever. I'm gonna go retire.
No, he's got plenty of have. He

1509
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,010
knows what he's doing at this
point in terms of making money

1510
01:29:41,010 --> 01:29:43,860
for himself and his president.
He'll hire probably most of

1511
01:29:43,860 --> 01:29:44,790
those people back.

1512
01:29:45,870 --> 01:29:52,830
Adam Curry: I am so grateful for
you. Why? Because throughout the

1513
01:29:52,830 --> 01:29:56,430
past set a well Good question,
but there is a reason throughout

1514
01:29:56,430 --> 01:30:01,260
the past 17 years. You have
always been protected the show

1515
01:30:01,290 --> 01:30:05,910
and probably more me by jumping
in if I said something

1516
01:30:05,910 --> 01:30:09,300
completely libelous, and then
you would correct me, so that it

1517
01:30:09,300 --> 01:30:13,740
was clear that we were
correcting that. Because it just

1518
01:30:13,740 --> 01:30:15,780
goes to show you you got to be
careful.

1519
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,600
John C Dvorak: You do have to be
careful. And I will tell you my

1520
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:22,170
background on that is that when
I wrote The with Adam Osborn, I

1521
01:30:22,170 --> 01:30:26,820
wrote a book called hyper
growth. And Adam was freaked out

1522
01:30:26,820 --> 01:30:31,260
about getting sued, because he
was saying some nasty stuff

1523
01:30:31,260 --> 01:30:36,660
about very CEOs. And so we went
into a libel lawyer's office and

1524
01:30:36,660 --> 01:30:41,940
spent the day and pretty much I
learned pretty much everything

1525
01:30:41,940 --> 01:30:46,920
you need to know from a
practical perspective on how not

1526
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:51,810
to libel or slander people. And
I've been complimented in some,

1527
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:56,850
in one case by a publisher who
says, you know, you can call

1528
01:30:56,850 --> 01:31:00,390
somebody an asshole 10 different
ways, but never really say it.

1529
01:31:00,930 --> 01:31:06,090
And that's kind of the key. And
yes, well, thank you. I am

1530
01:31:06,510 --> 01:31:10,440
constantly I know it was drummed
into me, but I'm very aware of

1531
01:31:10,440 --> 01:31:13,620
this problem. Yes. No, thank
you. Easily labeling somebody.

1532
01:31:13,650 --> 01:31:16,530
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. Because
people out there crazy. The

1533
01:31:16,530 --> 01:31:17,340
courts are crazy.

1534
01:31:17,850 --> 01:31:20,130
John C Dvorak: Crazy. For one
thing, you can't call somebody a

1535
01:31:20,130 --> 01:31:23,520
crook. Yeah, that's the that's
the one of the key that you just

1536
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:27,960
can't say. Any, you know, if
they haven't been convicted of a

1537
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:29,820
crime, you can't call them a
criminal

1538
01:31:29,820 --> 01:31:32,400
Adam Curry: unless you really
bless your trump. You've Trump

1539
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:33,840
you can call him your trump.

1540
01:31:34,110 --> 01:31:35,520
John C Dvorak: Call him
anything. Anything you want.

1541
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,220
Yeah. Well, there are
differences people left and

1542
01:31:38,220 --> 01:31:39,900
right to Well, there are
differences.

1543
01:31:39,900 --> 01:31:42,030
Adam Curry: Your kids are in the
public eye, which is like this

1544
01:31:42,030 --> 01:31:45,300
kind of gray area. You can say
horrible things about people who

1545
01:31:45,300 --> 01:31:50,100
are in the public eye. There's
there's a gray area in tort law.

1546
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:56,040
John C Dvorak: But Jones has
always been up cross crosses the

1547
01:31:56,040 --> 01:32:00,150
line a lot. I listen to him. I
mean, I listen to him. We have

1548
01:32:00,150 --> 01:32:03,270
Adam Curry: a troll trainee.
Janee says I want to call Mimi a

1549
01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:09,270
crook. Too many egg too many
eggs stole my heart. Ah. Isn't

1550
01:32:09,270 --> 01:32:10,650
that cute? All the

1551
01:32:10,650 --> 01:32:12,990
John C Dvorak: art in that book
is from public domain sources

1552
01:32:12,990 --> 01:32:15,750
that are at least 100 years old.
Give me a brainless year old

1553
01:32:15,750 --> 01:32:16,200
woman.

1554
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:22,320
Adam Curry: The final series of
clips I have here is very

1555
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,740
unexciting. But the information
is detailed. It's from Reuters.

1556
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:31,110
Reuters. There's no reason you
have to be boring. And this is

1557
01:32:31,110 --> 01:32:39,570
the Pentagon's psychological
operation against Chinese with

1558
01:32:39,570 --> 01:32:42,030
anti Vax messaging if you follow
that.

1559
01:32:43,530 --> 01:32:47,160
Unknown: Yep, Reuters has
uncovered a secret anti Vax

1560
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:51,030
campaign run by the Pentagon to
undermine China during the

1561
01:32:51,030 --> 01:32:55,710
pandemic. despite objections
from top diplomats, the US

1562
01:32:55,710 --> 01:33:00,090
military engaged in clandestine
propaganda about COVID vaccines

1563
01:33:00,390 --> 01:33:03,060
that public health experts say
is indefensible.

1564
01:33:03,420 --> 01:33:06,330
An aspect of military that many
people don't realize or don't

1565
01:33:06,330 --> 01:33:11,220
know about is it the military
controls a large network of fake

1566
01:33:11,250 --> 01:33:15,690
social media accounts, and other
online profiles, which it can

1567
01:33:15,690 --> 01:33:19,140
use to influence foreign
adversaries. In this case, they

1568
01:33:19,140 --> 01:33:22,980
were using a mixture of social
media accounts on various

1569
01:33:22,980 --> 01:33:27,210
platforms, including Twitter,
Facebook, Instagram, and several

1570
01:33:27,210 --> 01:33:31,140
foreign language, social media
platforms, popular in Central

1571
01:33:31,140 --> 01:33:36,180
Asia. So the message is
typically focused on this idea

1572
01:33:36,180 --> 01:33:41,070
that foreign audiences should
not trust Chinese pandemic aid.

1573
01:33:41,220 --> 01:33:43,740
So it would say that their face
masks that they were donating

1574
01:33:43,740 --> 01:33:46,260
were fake. They would say that
the test kits that they were

1575
01:33:46,260 --> 01:33:49,680
providing didn't work, they
would say that the vaccines were

1576
01:33:49,950 --> 01:33:55,650
ineffective, not real. I think
the most surprising message that

1577
01:33:55,650 --> 01:34:00,870
we saw was that they were
pushing this idea that Chinese

1578
01:34:00,870 --> 01:34:05,250
COVID vaccines in particular
sin, evac contained a pork

1579
01:34:05,250 --> 01:34:09,090
derivative, because where that
message was targeted, was in

1580
01:34:09,090 --> 01:34:12,300
Central Asia among Muslim
majority countries.

1581
01:34:12,390 --> 01:34:14,640
Adam Curry: Now the funny thing
is, I remember some of those

1582
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:16,680
stories. Yeah, I

1583
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,540
John C Dvorak: do, too. And
yeah, this was by the way, you

1584
01:34:18,540 --> 01:34:20,940
didn't get to see because you're
traveling. But this this was

1585
01:34:20,940 --> 01:34:22,290
written up in the newsletter.

1586
01:34:23,070 --> 01:34:25,620
Adam Curry: Oh, no, I didn't see
that. No, you're right. Well, I

1587
01:34:25,620 --> 01:34:30,690
have two more pieces to this.
What I just found interesting

1588
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,870
is, of course, this never
mentioned in this report is

1589
01:34:33,870 --> 01:34:40,380
Smith Mundt. Which does not
allow our government to Well

1590
01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:44,370
originally did not allow our
government to propagandize our

1591
01:34:44,370 --> 01:34:47,670
own people. Although it's kind
of mentioned in there that was

1592
01:34:47,700 --> 01:34:51,600
later repealed in the National
Defense Authorization Act under

1593
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:55,080
Obama. But of course, there's B
and the reason was was the

1594
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:58,980
internet you know, we might
spill over but I remember these

1595
01:34:58,980 --> 01:35:02,490
quite vividly. During COVID, how
did this campaign begin?

1596
01:35:02,970 --> 01:35:06,750
Unknown: There was growing
interest in increasing the US as

1597
01:35:06,750 --> 01:35:10,410
use of clandestine propaganda
and influence operations

1598
01:35:10,410 --> 01:35:12,180
following the 2016 election.

1599
01:35:14,009 --> 01:35:17,129
Adam Curry: How about that's
interesting, when

1600
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:20,040
Unknown: Russian intelligence
operatives ran a hack and leak

1601
01:35:20,220 --> 01:35:23,790
to influence American voters?
Has

1602
01:35:23,790 --> 01:35:26,340
Adam Curry: that ever been
proven anywhere, no hack and

1603
01:35:26,670 --> 01:35:29,040
John C Dvorak: for those Hokey
Pokey as it were in Facebook,

1604
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,560
they spent $100,000 in ad has

1605
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:34,140
Adam Curry: hack and leak. Okay,

1606
01:35:34,170 --> 01:35:38,130
Unknown: hack, there was already
support and interest in this

1607
01:35:38,130 --> 01:35:43,710
area that going years later in
2019. Policies are instituted

1608
01:35:43,860 --> 01:35:47,460
through Congress, and also
within the Defense Department

1609
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:51,720
that lessened the approval
process and made it easier to

1610
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:55,800
run these types of missions
globally, even outside of

1611
01:35:55,800 --> 01:36:01,410
defined war zones. With the
COVID pandemic erupting in 2020.

1612
01:36:01,710 --> 01:36:05,790
The military looks to employ
these tactics, while State

1613
01:36:05,790 --> 01:36:11,280
Department officials voiced
caution. Diplomats argued that

1614
01:36:11,550 --> 01:36:15,540
it was not the right time during
a pandemic, to spread fear

1615
01:36:15,660 --> 01:36:19,560
through propaganda because of
the ramifications. Nonetheless,

1616
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:25,320
the military continued their
operations until at least summer

1617
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:26,700
of 2021. So

1618
01:36:26,700 --> 01:36:30,000
Adam Curry: when I hear this,
all I can think of is, well of

1619
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:33,540
course they did that because
perhaps the whole COVID thing

1620
01:36:33,540 --> 01:36:38,250
was a military operation to
begin with, including operation

1621
01:36:38,250 --> 01:36:43,770
warp speed. I mean, why else?
Why else would they do that?

1622
01:36:44,220 --> 01:36:45,510
John C Dvorak: There was one
thing you're not gonna get in

1623
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:48,510
this report, which was in the
newsletter, which is the is the

1624
01:36:48,570 --> 01:36:51,540
is the phrase that we're using
over and over again, which is

1625
01:36:51,540 --> 01:36:58,140
China. China develop develop the
China is responsible for the for

1626
01:36:58,140 --> 01:37:03,570
the COVID. China's does its own
vaccines. Don't trust China?

1627
01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:07,650
There was this don't trust China
meme that they were putting out

1628
01:37:07,650 --> 01:37:10,290
and I just thought it was right
up our alley, because we've been

1629
01:37:10,290 --> 01:37:15,150
saying using that old don't
trust China. Clip forever.

1630
01:37:15,930 --> 01:37:18,870
Donald Trump don't trust China,
China is as home

1631
01:37:18,900 --> 01:37:22,650
Adam Curry: so we're part of the
military SIOP campaign, I guess,

1632
01:37:23,490 --> 01:37:27,060
unwittingly well, actually
adulterous. Unwittingly,

1633
01:37:27,090 --> 01:37:28,680
unwittingly, we were.

1634
01:37:28,950 --> 01:37:30,540
John C Dvorak: I think we've
heard of a lot of stuff

1635
01:37:30,540 --> 01:37:31,740
unwittingly. But

1636
01:37:31,740 --> 01:37:34,500
Adam Curry: wait, you one of
your favorite code words is in

1637
01:37:34,500 --> 01:37:35,670
this last clip. And

1638
01:37:35,670 --> 01:37:39,480
Unknown: so how did it end? The
influence operation began in

1639
01:37:39,480 --> 01:37:43,830
early 2020 with the spread of
the Coronavirus and ran through

1640
01:37:44,130 --> 01:37:47,370
the Trump administration. But it
also continued through the

1641
01:37:47,370 --> 01:37:51,360
beginning of the Biden
administration. In January of

1642
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,030
the Biden administration. When
they first came into office.

1643
01:37:54,270 --> 01:37:56,670
They were notified by social
media companies who were

1644
01:37:56,670 --> 01:38:00,120
dismayed by what they found.
They had independently noticed

1645
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,030
that the military was conducting
these operations through fake

1646
01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:05,670
accounts on their platforms. And
they told the Biden

1647
01:38:05,790 --> 01:38:08,610
administration that they'd seen
evidence of the military

1648
01:38:08,610 --> 01:38:12,690
spreading COVID misinformation.
The White House and the National

1649
01:38:12,690 --> 01:38:17,970
Security Council issued a ban
internally on messaging by the

1650
01:38:17,970 --> 01:38:22,350
military on vaccines, but we
continue to see the operation

1651
01:38:22,620 --> 01:38:26,610
active until later that spring
into the early summer. The

1652
01:38:26,610 --> 01:38:29,580
US military is prohibited from
targeting Americans with

1653
01:38:29,580 --> 01:38:33,210
propaganda, and Reuters found no
evidence that the Pentagon's

1654
01:38:33,210 --> 01:38:37,860
influence operation. Pentagon
spokeswoman said the US military

1655
01:38:37,860 --> 01:38:41,580
does use platforms including
social media to counter malign

1656
01:38:41,580 --> 01:38:45,570
influence attacks aimed at the
US. And she noted that China had

1657
01:38:45,570 --> 01:38:49,230
started a quote, disinformation
campaign to falsely blame the

1658
01:38:49,230 --> 01:38:53,790
United States for the spread of
COVID 19. Trump and Biden

1659
01:38:53,790 --> 01:38:56,580
spokespeople did not respond to
requests for comment.

1660
01:38:59,070 --> 01:39:00,180
John C Dvorak: What are they
gonna say

1661
01:39:00,210 --> 01:39:03,300
Adam Curry: this whole things I
mean, while they were deep

1662
01:39:03,300 --> 01:39:06,240
platforming people, citizens
doctors,

1663
01:39:06,750 --> 01:39:09,510
John C Dvorak: for so called
COVID Ostersund per COVID

1664
01:39:09,510 --> 01:39:10,860
disinformation.

1665
01:39:11,460 --> 01:39:14,040
Adam Curry: At the same time,
they're just the our own

1666
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:19,260
government is SIOP in China, and
then China sigh up things back,

1667
01:39:19,290 --> 01:39:23,280
like Oh, whoa, no, didn't start
here. This whole thing now

1668
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:27,390
smells like one big military
defense department, opera, the

1669
01:39:27,390 --> 01:39:32,280
whole COVID thing. And it makes
sense with warp speed

1670
01:39:34,290 --> 01:39:36,240
John C Dvorak: will also make
sense with some of the clips

1671
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:39,090
coming floating around that
about showing people that had

1672
01:39:39,090 --> 01:39:41,310
the vaccine already in the in
the key Yeah,

1673
01:39:41,310 --> 01:39:42,630
Adam Curry: in 2019.

1674
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,710
John C Dvorak: So there's, well,
we're talking about this sort of

1675
01:39:46,710 --> 01:39:49,380
thing. You also die. We're
getting the blowback.

1676
01:39:49,410 --> 01:39:51,660
Adam Curry: Mmm hmm. We got to
take a break, John.

1677
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,060
John C Dvorak: I'm just telling
you daftar these two clips would

1678
01:39:54,060 --> 01:39:59,460
be perfect. Okay. These are Ryan
Cole, a epidemiologist that was

1679
01:39:59,580 --> 01:40:03,990
floated around some, I think
they caught him at a, at a

1680
01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:07,800
county fair giving a speech. And
so they decided to get a couple

1681
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:11,130
of licks in. And these are very
funny. Well, and they're not

1682
01:40:11,130 --> 01:40:16,380
funny by any means, but they're
horrible. stories he tells you

1683
01:40:16,380 --> 01:40:20,370
about was Ryan Cole, who was
Ryan Gleason epidemiologist as

1684
01:40:20,370 --> 01:40:23,190
floating around the country
giving speeches about how bad

1685
01:40:23,190 --> 01:40:26,520
this vaccine was. Target is what
he is. He's another one of those

1686
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:27,540
guys at Target.

1687
01:40:27,810 --> 01:40:28,530
Unknown: Dr. Cole,

1688
01:40:28,740 --> 01:40:32,460
what in your opinion, was the
greatest crime during COVID?

1689
01:40:33,900 --> 01:40:35,550
Adam Curry: Sounds like a Dutch
guy, by the way,

1690
01:40:36,390 --> 01:40:42,030
Unknown: the truth died. We were
lied to by governments who were

1691
01:40:42,030 --> 01:40:46,470
taken advantage of by
intelligence agencies, we were

1692
01:40:46,470 --> 01:40:51,300
taken advantage of by
Departments of Defense. And the

1693
01:40:51,300 --> 01:40:55,980
people were lied to that's the
truth in science died.

1694
01:40:56,820 --> 01:41:01,530
What do you see, in the
aftermath of the mRNA shots?

1695
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,830
I think the biggest problem
we're going to be fighting for a

1696
01:41:04,830 --> 01:41:10,470
long time is chronic autoimmune
disease. These injections were

1697
01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:13,980
contaminated with DNA. They were
made with us instead of

1698
01:41:14,010 --> 01:41:18,480
synthetic RNA. And they weren't
just making spike proteins, they

1699
01:41:18,480 --> 01:41:21,750
were making Frankenstein
proteins as well. And when the

1700
01:41:21,750 --> 01:41:25,020
immune system is exposed to
proteins that it's not supposed

1701
01:41:25,020 --> 01:41:29,310
to see, then it starts to go
haywire. So certainly, we've

1702
01:41:29,310 --> 01:41:35,460
seen some excess sudden death.
And we've seen death from all

1703
01:41:35,460 --> 01:41:40,170
causes increased around the
world after the rollout of these

1704
01:41:40,170 --> 01:41:44,100
genetic injections that were
never a vaccine. They were

1705
01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:47,910
experimental genetic injections.
And so a lot of autoimmune

1706
01:41:47,910 --> 01:41:50,760
disease for a long time and
decreased fertility rates we're

1707
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:54,150
already seeing in many countries
around the world. And what I

1708
01:41:54,150 --> 01:41:58,170
noticed early on was we're
seeing a lot of runaway turbo

1709
01:41:58,170 --> 01:42:01,710
cancers. And I think we're going
to continue to see that and

1710
01:42:01,710 --> 01:42:02,370
sadly,

1711
01:42:03,480 --> 01:42:07,410
Adam Curry: yeah, Bloomberg had
a story this morning. Why is

1712
01:42:07,410 --> 01:42:08,760
everyone getting sick?

1713
01:42:09,390 --> 01:42:12,510
John C Dvorak: Hmm. Okay,
Milton's finally out of the ice.

1714
01:42:12,750 --> 01:42:15,420
Well, yeah, we were terrible
cancer.

1715
01:42:15,450 --> 01:42:19,260
Adam Curry: We were pelted with
the Kate Middleton just on and

1716
01:42:19,260 --> 01:42:22,800
on and on. Well, so is the
Charles he's also got to you

1717
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:28,410
guys, but cancer. But I think so
allegedly, to make sure we don't

1718
01:42:28,410 --> 01:42:31,770
get sued by the Windsors.
Alright, is that Julie's the

1719
01:42:31,770 --> 01:42:36,210
right way? Oh, so Ryan, Ryan is
doing county fairs?

1720
01:42:36,900 --> 01:42:38,730
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is
where you This is where these

1721
01:42:38,730 --> 01:42:41,190
guys are at? Yeah, county fairs.
Good on

1722
01:42:41,190 --> 01:42:42,480
Adam Curry: him. And he's in the
arena.

1723
01:42:42,540 --> 01:42:45,300
Unknown: These weren't what they
were advertised to be. They were

1724
01:42:45,300 --> 01:42:48,990
never a vaccine. And the lesson
here, I think, is that we should

1725
01:42:48,990 --> 01:42:54,690
never, as a population ever use
synthetic RNA, or genetic

1726
01:42:54,690 --> 01:42:57,450
injections ever again. Right?

1727
01:42:57,480 --> 01:43:00,840
Was that a big accident? Or I
know did the people know what

1728
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,540
they were doing? Who made those
vaccines and peddle them on us?

1729
01:43:03,810 --> 01:43:07,440
The powers that be it was a big
money game for them. And they

1730
01:43:08,730 --> 01:43:14,370
made up a false emergency. SARS
cov. Two was never an emergency

1731
01:43:14,370 --> 01:43:20,190
for 99.9% of the population. So
they used it as an opportunity

1732
01:43:20,190 --> 01:43:23,760
to test out their, quote, new
technology that they've been

1733
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,660
tinkering with and always
failing with, and they rolled it

1734
01:43:27,660 --> 01:43:32,160
out onto humanity. Like I said,
from the stage here, they would

1735
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:37,350
make Mengele blush in terms of
human experimentation. This was

1736
01:43:37,380 --> 01:43:40,050
a horrendous breach of human
rights around the world.

1737
01:43:41,130 --> 01:43:44,460
destroyed lives destroyed
businesses put more people into

1738
01:43:44,460 --> 01:43:49,710
poverty. This entire couple of
years has been history will look

1739
01:43:49,710 --> 01:43:54,210
back and hopefully these people
will be shown to be shameful

1740
01:43:54,210 --> 01:43:55,680
like they weren't. That's right.

1741
01:43:55,710 --> 01:43:58,260
Adam Curry: Yes, we will have
sub stacks to look back on this

1742
01:43:58,260 --> 01:43:58,920
history.

1743
01:44:01,140 --> 01:44:03,360
John C Dvorak: And depth for
this section section, the B

1744
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:07,950
block with a C block with a
uplifting, little message

1745
01:44:07,980 --> 01:44:10,830
Adam Curry: very uplifting, by
the way, apparently substack

1746
01:44:10,830 --> 01:44:14,670
just for your information being
a sub stacker they've gone woke

1747
01:44:15,150 --> 01:44:18,990
and they say now you're that
What are you categorized in on

1748
01:44:19,020 --> 01:44:22,680
on the sub stack? crackpot there
you go and with that, I'd like

1749
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,110
to thank you for your courage in
the morning to you the man who

1750
01:44:25,110 --> 01:44:28,470
put the sea he just did it in
crackpot but also in cobalt from

1751
01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:31,200
Ukraine. Say hello to my friend
on the other end, the one and

1752
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,120
only Mr. John Cena.

1753
01:44:34,890 --> 01:44:36,240
John C Dvorak: Well, in the
morning, you'll miss your

1754
01:44:36,780 --> 01:44:39,240
morning, boots in the ground
feet in the air subs in the

1755
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:40,530
water all the days and nights
out

1756
01:44:40,530 --> 01:44:42,300
Adam Curry: there in the morning
to the trolls and the troll.

1757
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:52,260
It's Father's Day Of course. We
had previous Sunday we had 1989.

1758
01:44:52,260 --> 01:44:57,510
Today we have 1618 That's kind
of to be expected. People are

1759
01:44:57,510 --> 01:44:59,670
hanging out with their dads
they're not donating for their

1760
01:44:59,670 --> 01:45:02,100
dads. But they aren't hanging
out with their dads. Although

1761
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:08,280
there's a couple I saw a couple
of Father's Day donations. We we

1762
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:12,600
want you to join the trolls. I
have not pointed troll room.io

1763
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:17,700
at the new website that Tim Sir
Tim made code monkey, which is

1764
01:45:17,700 --> 01:45:21,750
no agenda dot stream it is
really good, very pretty very

1765
01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:26,580
fast, very handy. So much better
than that that temporary page

1766
01:45:26,580 --> 01:45:30,330
I've had up there for oh, I
don't know, 10 years. So we

1767
01:45:30,330 --> 01:45:33,690
appreciate that. So no agenda
dot stream and I will point

1768
01:45:33,690 --> 01:45:36,030
troll room.io at it because
that's where you can hang out

1769
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:39,210
with. Well, let's face it more
than one and a half 1000 Trolls

1770
01:45:39,210 --> 01:45:42,150
that's not bad. They're all
listening live. They do it every

1771
01:45:42,150 --> 01:45:44,250
Thursday and Wednesday. Of
course we do the show live no

1772
01:45:44,250 --> 01:45:46,530
matter where we are in the world
whenever we can we bring it to

1773
01:45:46,530 --> 01:45:49,890
you live, we do it live with the
accompaniment from John Cena

1774
01:45:49,890 --> 01:45:56,040
vortex noisemakers and drums.
And you can also enjoy this on a

1775
01:45:56,040 --> 01:46:01,560
modern podcast app, try fountain
fountain will immediately give

1776
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:05,910
you an alert when we go live. Or
if you can't listen to us live

1777
01:46:05,910 --> 01:46:08,670
when the show was published 90
seconds later, boom, it's up

1778
01:46:08,670 --> 01:46:11,610
there. And of course, you get
all the extra bells and whistles

1779
01:46:11,610 --> 01:46:15,120
including the chapters,
transcripts, you'd like the

1780
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:17,910
transcripts, you can read along
with the transcript. A lot of

1781
01:46:17,910 --> 01:46:21,300
people listen to the show for
English as a second language. So

1782
01:46:21,300 --> 01:46:23,430
I'm actually some people come up
to me and say, you know, I

1783
01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:25,920
really learned English by
listening to you guys at the

1784
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:30,780
meetup yesterday. I know. It's
kind of a sad thought. But there

1785
01:46:30,780 --> 01:46:31,800
it is joking.

1786
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:33,990
John C Dvorak: There's probably
probably

1787
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:39,060
Adam Curry: in October, we'll be
celebrating 17 years, 17 years

1788
01:46:39,060 --> 01:46:43,080
and what a what a ride. It's
been people want us to go for

1789
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,780
for more, we're hanging in
there. But remember, it's hard

1790
01:46:45,780 --> 01:46:50,490
to do this work. It's a grind.
It's really takes a lot of grit.

1791
01:46:51,210 --> 01:46:56,460
And you know, we're doing it for
you. And we can't do it without

1792
01:46:56,460 --> 01:46:59,490
producers. You heard we've got
producers who are experts in

1793
01:46:59,490 --> 01:47:03,690
every single field that you can
imagine. They've been carefully

1794
01:47:03,690 --> 01:47:07,740
trained throughout almost two
decades, to always send us

1795
01:47:07,740 --> 01:47:10,260
information if they have it not
think Oh, Adam and John won't

1796
01:47:10,260 --> 01:47:13,890
read it. Because we will. And we
always take that information

1797
01:47:13,890 --> 01:47:18,300
gladly is very, very useful. You
heard this or Tim does the

1798
01:47:18,330 --> 01:47:22,800
websites for us who got void
zero. Everybody a little bit of

1799
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,620
hardcoat health karma and
prayers for void he's not

1800
01:47:25,620 --> 01:47:29,910
feeling too well. Particularly
on Father's Day happened. Yes.

1801
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:36,840
Some gasoline gastro issues. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, I'll make flu. No,

1802
01:47:36,870 --> 01:47:38,310
no, it's a little worse than
that.

1803
01:47:39,270 --> 01:47:40,710
John C Dvorak: He'll live ulcer.

1804
01:47:43,170 --> 01:47:45,990
Adam Curry: It's not groovy.
It's not it's not Oprah level,

1805
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:46,860
but it's not great.

1806
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:50,520
John C Dvorak: You know, when,
if Oprah is going to make it?

1807
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:51,450
You

1808
01:47:51,450 --> 01:47:55,110
Adam Curry: know, we'll get to
that later. Also, we have to

1809
01:47:55,110 --> 01:47:58,290
talk about the new pandemic on
the horizon. We'll do that right

1810
01:47:58,290 --> 01:48:00,960
after the break. There's a tease
for you, because they're really

1811
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:04,500
pushing it really really pushing
it. And of course we have our

1812
01:48:04,500 --> 01:48:09,630
artists artists who use no
agenda art generator.com I met

1813
01:48:09,630 --> 01:48:13,770
to one of our great Dutch
masters Taunton, Neil at at the

1814
01:48:13,770 --> 01:48:18,030
meetup in here in Amsterdam
yesterday. Of course that all

1815
01:48:18,030 --> 01:48:20,670
appears on no agenda are
generated are calm, which Sir

1816
01:48:20,670 --> 01:48:23,220
Paul put together. I mean,
really? We do have an amazing

1817
01:48:23,220 --> 01:48:26,130
community. Just look at the
meetups by themselves. People

1818
01:48:26,130 --> 01:48:27,570
getting together. Yes.

1819
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:30,330
John C Dvorak: So what When did
she meet you before you said,

1820
01:48:30,420 --> 01:48:31,740
Oh, I was a kid. Yes, he

1821
01:48:31,740 --> 01:48:35,160
Adam Curry: was a kid. Yeah, she
was a she was a teen. And she

1822
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:40,260
gave me a, a, a beautiful, it's
not really a scrapbook. It's a

1823
01:48:40,260 --> 01:48:44,940
produced book, which has
scrapbook pages, but it's not

1824
01:48:44,940 --> 01:48:48,420
the actual scraps. It's all
photocopied. And she put it into

1825
01:48:48,420 --> 01:48:52,590
a book and it's bound. And it's,
I mean, it's beautiful. It is it

1826
01:48:52,590 --> 01:48:56,340
is a lot of a lot of my story.
Certainly the days in the

1827
01:48:56,340 --> 01:48:59,580
Netherlands. She wrote me an
eight page handwritten letter,

1828
01:49:00,030 --> 01:49:03,870
which was just fantastic. It was
just great. It was great to meet

1829
01:49:03,870 --> 01:49:06,510
her again. It was great to hang
out with her.

1830
01:49:06,630 --> 01:49:08,580
John C Dvorak: Do you remember
meeting her the first time?

1831
01:49:08,580 --> 01:49:09,450
Absolutely not.

1832
01:49:09,660 --> 01:49:13,110
Adam Curry: But I've I've seen
the picture. And you know, and I

1833
01:49:13,110 --> 01:49:16,290
can't even remember the event.
I'm like, what, what what what

1834
01:49:16,290 --> 01:49:20,130
was that about? I have no idea.
I have no idea. lost

1835
01:49:20,130 --> 01:49:21,660
John C Dvorak: to history. But
she you know,

1836
01:49:21,660 --> 01:49:24,750
Adam Curry: she has followed my
radio career and that inspired

1837
01:49:24,750 --> 01:49:29,220
her to get into radio. She
actually studied broadcasting

1838
01:49:29,250 --> 01:49:32,970
communications in the States for
a year. And then she became a

1839
01:49:32,970 --> 01:49:35,940
video editor. She's one of the
first video editors on Big

1840
01:49:35,940 --> 01:49:39,210
Brother when the show first
started to Dutch production when

1841
01:49:39,210 --> 01:49:45,360
first started here. And she I
guess she was listening for

1842
01:49:45,390 --> 01:49:50,970
quite a number of years and
never really wanted to send in

1843
01:49:50,970 --> 01:49:54,210
any art even though she has
talent. And I think some of her

1844
01:49:54,210 --> 01:49:57,390
early work never got chosen if I
remember the eight pages

1845
01:49:57,390 --> 01:50:02,760
correctly. And then she says and
I feel figured it out. I figured

1846
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:05,070
out well She sure did. What is
she on the ranking right now?

1847
01:50:05,250 --> 01:50:05,940
She's gonna be up

1848
01:50:05,940 --> 01:50:08,340
John C Dvorak: there. Let's take
a look at the leaderboards Adam.

1849
01:50:09,300 --> 01:50:10,050
Meanwhile,

1850
01:50:10,050 --> 01:50:11,040
Adam Curry: while you're doing
that

1851
01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:15,240
John C Dvorak: the artwork was
number six. Oh, I

1852
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,730
Adam Curry: thought she was
higher than that. Now, number

1853
01:50:17,730 --> 01:50:21,150
one is nicked a rat. This is all
time or just or this year. This

1854
01:50:21,150 --> 01:50:23,550
is all time all time. How about
from this year? Can you look

1855
01:50:23,550 --> 01:50:23,970
that up?

1856
01:50:24,510 --> 01:50:27,270
John C Dvorak: I got to roll I
can do six months rolling.

1857
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:28,290
Rolling six

1858
01:50:28,290 --> 01:50:29,400
Adam Curry: month average. Yes.

1859
01:50:29,430 --> 01:50:30,960
John C Dvorak: She stirred. Oh,

1860
01:50:31,290 --> 01:50:34,140
Adam Curry: I'm telling she's
she's a Dutch master. For

1861
01:50:34,140 --> 01:50:38,340
episode 1668 We could have used
some of her Dutch mastery we we

1862
01:50:38,340 --> 01:50:42,660
kind of went with the best one.
We titled that one spill over

1863
01:50:42,660 --> 01:50:47,640
and this was the the yard sign
the political yard sign, which

1864
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:52,230
said rug pulled 2024 Make Trump
deal with a corrector record.

1865
01:50:52,260 --> 01:50:55,530
Another Dutch master came in
with that one. Let me take a

1866
01:50:55,530 --> 01:51:00,240
look. I know we were we weren't
very satisfied with the

1867
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:03,450
offering. And we're not saying
that to be mean or anything.

1868
01:51:03,450 --> 01:51:04,590
We're just usually the

1869
01:51:04,590 --> 01:51:06,660
John C Dvorak: fault of the
show. I would give it to defend

1870
01:51:06,660 --> 01:51:10,500
the artists if we don't have any
triggering Yeah, commentary,

1871
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,350
though. We did but it wasn't
good. I can't do the art. So

1872
01:51:13,380 --> 01:51:16,050
Adam Curry: we had the you know,
this is hard. This is a grind

1873
01:51:16,050 --> 01:51:19,320
which was a funny bid on the
show with Meghan McCain. And so

1874
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:22,080
they picked that one up. But
yeah, that's no good. That's

1875
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,200
John C Dvorak: no good. The
other one is intent. And Neil

1876
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:29,190
your friend, it kind of blew up
her idea. I mean, she had the

1877
01:51:29,190 --> 01:51:32,310
idea listening to you, but then
I you sent me the art the actual

1878
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:37,650
picture that girls in the in the
Apple presentation. Oh, yeah,

1879
01:51:37,650 --> 01:51:44,670
this is? It was a joke. Yeah,
yeah. There was huge stove pipe

1880
01:51:44,670 --> 01:51:49,590
jeans there. Were there a denim
with sandals. They look like

1881
01:51:49,590 --> 01:51:52,710
hell. And they're a high whatnot
or your high water. Like you'd

1882
01:51:52,710 --> 01:51:55,800
like to put an old phrase? Yes.
But they're always high. high

1883
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:59,790
waisted. Yeah. So you look like
a complete idiot on the stage.

1884
01:51:59,790 --> 01:52:00,030
And so

1885
01:52:00,030 --> 01:52:02,850
Adam Curry: I show that to Tina.
You know what she says? Yep,

1886
01:52:02,850 --> 01:52:04,950
that's the fashion the girls are
wearing these days.

1887
01:52:06,180 --> 01:52:07,020
Unknown: Well, good luck.

1888
01:52:07,050 --> 01:52:08,640
Adam Curry: That's what I said.
Well, yeah, there'll

1889
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,410
John C Dvorak: be attractive.
The other girls wearing the same

1890
01:52:10,410 --> 01:52:14,580
outfit. That's for sure. That's
which I think I said

1891
01:52:14,790 --> 01:52:20,220
Adam Curry: at Taunton, Neil did
did put in the Shula discs from

1892
01:52:20,220 --> 01:52:22,650
the game, which was at the
meetup, the the Dutch

1893
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:25,680
shuffleboard. Yeah, I actually
liked that piece. It was a good

1894
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:27,600
piece, but we didn't think
anyone would get it. Now the

1895
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:31,830
Dutch might get it, but there
was. I don't know. Do you think

1896
01:52:31,830 --> 01:52:32,970
we should have chosen that one?

1897
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:35,940
John C Dvorak: In hindsight, no.

1898
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:42,450
Adam Curry: Okay. But we
appreciate the work of all of

1899
01:52:42,450 --> 01:52:45,810
the artists, the show would not
be as successful without you.

1900
01:52:45,810 --> 01:52:51,510
There's no doubt about it. No
doubt about it. And we

1901
01:52:51,510 --> 01:52:55,680
appreciate it. You can they're
doing this live. So while while

1902
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,320
we're talking they will be
uploading art to nogen art

1903
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:03,480
generator.com. Of course a tip
for you new artists typically on

1904
01:53:03,690 --> 01:53:07,920
days like Mother's Day, Father's
Day, Christmas Easter, we tend

1905
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:10,890
to go traditional. We're always
looking for something with an

1906
01:53:10,890 --> 01:53:12,660
edge but we tend to go
traditional.

1907
01:53:14,190 --> 01:53:17,580
John C Dvorak: So if you can
combine traditional with an edge

1908
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,550
deals, there's your winner,
there's your winner.

1909
01:53:21,900 --> 01:53:25,560
Adam Curry: Now for the so we
all we ask for in return is that

1910
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:28,710
if you get any value from the
show, you know do something back

1911
01:53:28,710 --> 01:53:32,640
for the show. hit someone in the
mouth, we asked for time, talent

1912
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:36,570
treasure, you can give us a
boots on the ground report. You

1913
01:53:36,570 --> 01:53:39,810
can organize a meet up you can
send us your treasure. What I'd

1914
01:53:39,810 --> 01:53:42,630
like to do is since there were
so many executive and Associate

1915
01:53:42,630 --> 01:53:46,560
Executive producers who handed
on the spot donations, I'll I'll

1916
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:50,100
do these now. I should just do
everybody real quick. I wrote it

1917
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:53,730
all down. Because I'm not
shuffling through notes. Before

1918
01:53:53,730 --> 01:53:56,760
we then get to the rest of our
executive and Associate

1919
01:53:56,760 --> 01:54:01,620
Executive Producer. That sounds
okay by you. Yeah, it's fine.

1920
01:54:01,650 --> 01:54:04,260
Okay. I'm just asking like a
little meeting on the side

1921
01:54:04,260 --> 01:54:08,280
little sidebar. So we had the
raffle that this is something

1922
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:12,450
that's started at these meetups.
It's, it's interesting where

1923
01:54:12,780 --> 01:54:15,990
there's a raffle and everybody
puts some donation money into

1924
01:54:15,990 --> 01:54:19,380
the pot. There were a lot of
people there so the pot equaled

1925
01:54:19,380 --> 01:54:27,600
389 euros and that was won by a
Sebastiana sticker. And he's

1926
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:32,160
from taste your favorite spot.
And so he will be listed as an

1927
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:36,060
executive producer today. He
wants no jingles no karma. Then

1928
01:54:36,060 --> 01:54:41,310
we had him Jacobina dame of the
of the doomsday Demers I think

1929
01:54:41,310 --> 01:54:45,390
it is and was hard to read. She
gave us a nice card. And 360

1930
01:54:45,420 --> 01:54:48,240
euros all this was cash by the
way a couple of people gave us

1931
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:56,820
some actual American money. Kyra
lien may see deer number $100 in

1932
01:54:56,820 --> 01:55:01,500
cash and that's towards her Day
a day mode also for her

1933
01:55:01,500 --> 01:55:05,130
birthday, which was June 5, and
she says thanks for keeping her

1934
01:55:05,130 --> 01:55:09,930
saying. Chantel writes My 50
euros and she wants to deducing

1935
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:10,650
almost second.

1936
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:14,220
Unknown: Can you spend de duced

1937
01:55:15,780 --> 01:55:20,910
Adam Curry: rumbled Roberts
hustle Brink 50 euros and a $5

1938
01:55:20,910 --> 01:55:25,320
note and very important a KLM
dei pen, which is actually one

1939
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:28,500
of the most interesting things I
received. It literally says

1940
01:55:28,500 --> 01:55:32,040
diversity and inclusion on the
pen. I think it's a collector's

1941
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:32,370
item.

1942
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:34,230
John C Dvorak: I think so too.

1943
01:55:34,260 --> 01:55:37,050
Adam Curry: Now, I'm not sure
who gave me the no agenda monkey

1944
01:55:37,050 --> 01:55:39,720
and I forget who gave me the
Jesus t shirt. But thank you for

1945
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:47,250
that. We got to forever be 12
plus pillboxes from one of our

1946
01:55:47,250 --> 01:55:49,680
producers. I'll be sending that
to you, John. That'll keep us

1947
01:55:49,710 --> 01:55:54,690
alert and alive forever. God is
a matinee made music T shirts.

1948
01:55:55,080 --> 01:56:01,410
No runners pin. Then we had
shady character 33 200 euros so

1949
01:56:01,410 --> 01:56:07,470
Associate Executive Producer,
and he has some Oh yes, some

1950
01:56:07,500 --> 01:56:11,400
viral viral medical books that
he wants added to the no agenda

1951
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:15,810
books list. We'll do that. No
jingles no karma. Sir. Rome,

1952
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:20,670
Nolan 200 euros Edna Hema
envelope, which was a nice touch

1953
01:56:20,970 --> 01:56:27,390
switch roofers deemed to be
Bianca Bianchini and he has been

1954
01:56:27,390 --> 01:56:30,180
hitting her in the mouth for 10
years. And finally she started

1955
01:56:30,180 --> 01:56:35,130
listening. No jingles no karma.
serpents. 200 euros plus 33.

1956
01:56:35,130 --> 01:56:39,270
American sense. You want to
double up karma. You got that

1957
01:56:39,270 --> 01:56:47,670
form. You've got karma. And so
that's Associate Executive

1958
01:56:47,670 --> 01:56:53,220
Producer his sister Kim gave us
333 euros and 33 cents or full

1959
01:56:53,220 --> 01:56:56,040
on executive producer ship. She
lives in Portugal. She wants to

1960
01:56:56,040 --> 01:57:04,950
do you spend deed deuced and she
rents out holiday homes in benna

1961
01:57:04,950 --> 01:57:08,700
Gil in the Algarve in Portugal.
If you mentioned no agenda while

1962
01:57:08,700 --> 01:57:12,600
renting one you get a free
bottle of champagne. Then, very

1963
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:19,890
interesting. Amit, the Israel
Israel lander. Amit is so he's

1964
01:57:19,890 --> 01:57:25,200
Israeli. And I mean, he's so
Israeli. John, he's Mossad. Now

1965
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:30,270
you should have said how Israeli
is he? How Israeli is he? He's

1966
01:57:30,270 --> 01:57:33,960
so Israeli. If you put on a
black hat and some curly Q's, he

1967
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:38,910
could sell diamonds in New York.
And he and he gave me an

1968
01:57:38,910 --> 01:57:41,580
envelope and you know, with the
with 100 euros on it, and the

1969
01:57:41,580 --> 01:57:44,340
envelope said, here it is your
Jew money.

1970
01:57:44,730 --> 01:57:48,780
John C Dvorak: So yes, by the
way, Israelis don't look like

1971
01:57:48,780 --> 01:57:49,110
that.

1972
01:57:50,850 --> 01:57:52,950
Adam Curry: Amit does this one.

1973
01:57:52,950 --> 01:57:55,380
John C Dvorak: I know you might.
But that doesn't mean he's not

1974
01:57:55,380 --> 01:57:55,770
like.

1975
01:57:57,270 --> 01:57:59,910
Adam Curry: I'm just telling you
roop this is this is what Amit

1976
01:57:59,910 --> 01:58:02,490
looked like. But I just thought
it was funny that he's good

1977
01:58:02,490 --> 01:58:05,280
look, he said, Yeah, it was a
great look. Finally he says,

1978
01:58:05,310 --> 01:58:08,130
Here's your Jew money. It's
true. We're getting Jew money.

1979
01:58:08,550 --> 01:58:12,840
And he says John's about time.
He says John, He loves it when

1980
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:16,650
you say someone's a mnemonic,
because it reminds me he says of

1981
01:58:16,650 --> 01:58:17,940
his old Jewish mother.

1982
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:23,940
John C Dvorak: So why she wasn't
a nude Nick. Nick

1983
01:58:24,450 --> 01:58:29,880
Adam Curry: Ludwin, luxury and
gave us a bottle of her SMPL dot

1984
01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:34,350
international 7072 plant derived
minerals. I'm tripping on him

1985
01:58:34,350 --> 01:58:38,910
right now. Got an old Amsterdam
cap from Jacob, I think and 33

1986
01:58:38,910 --> 01:58:40,050
euros and you need to do

1987
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:43,530
Unknown: D deuced.

1988
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:46,170
Adam Curry: So thank you all
very much, who came to the

1989
01:58:46,170 --> 01:58:48,990
meetup. It was great to see
everybody. It was great to hang

1990
01:58:48,990 --> 01:58:51,810
out with you. And we'll do it
again in four more years.

1991
01:58:52,290 --> 01:58:56,220
Something like that. It's
tiring, long day. Over to our

1992
01:58:56,220 --> 01:58:59,040
Executive Associate Executive
producers came in either through

1993
01:58:59,310 --> 01:59:04,710
the PayPal or through the PIO
box checks etc. Or stripe. We

1994
01:59:04,710 --> 01:59:08,940
kick it off with Pim interim
from Maastricht the Netherlands

1995
01:59:08,940 --> 01:59:14,760
four, five 6.66. And now oh,
this is a meetup donation is why

1996
01:59:14,790 --> 01:59:17,370
there's well being invited to
the meetup in Amsterdam. I

1997
01:59:17,370 --> 01:59:20,250
realized I couldn't show up
without finally pushing myself

1998
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:26,340
into knighthood. Is he on the
list for knighthood? I take a

1999
01:59:26,340 --> 01:59:26,940
look here.

2000
01:59:27,870 --> 01:59:29,190
Unknown: Because it's not I
don't think so.

2001
01:59:29,190 --> 01:59:31,740
Adam Curry: Not blue. Let me
check.

2002
01:59:33,870 --> 01:59:35,730
John C Dvorak: No, he does. Oh,
let

2003
01:59:35,730 --> 01:59:37,890
Adam Curry: me see what he says
in the rest of the note. I've

2004
01:59:37,890 --> 01:59:40,980
been listening on and off and
depending on my commute

2005
01:59:40,980 --> 01:59:44,250
schedule, but always enjoyed it
every second. last donation was

2006
01:59:44,250 --> 01:59:48,180
10 years ago. Time flies when
being a douchebag when you're a

2007
01:59:48,180 --> 01:59:52,530
douchebag. I guess, Adam? Uh,
well, uh, maybe he's just being

2008
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:57,780
he's on his way to knighthood I
think. No, no, no, not really.

2009
01:59:57,780 --> 02:00:00,300
So time flies when you're being
a douchebag hope i Adam would

2010
02:00:00,300 --> 02:00:03,540
have enjoyed the best limbers to
fly. Oh yes, there was limbers

2011
02:00:03,540 --> 02:00:08,820
to fly which is Dutch cherry
pie. Very good from the best

2012
02:00:08,820 --> 02:00:12,030
Baker in the Netherlands. And
not I got nothing else much else

2013
02:00:12,030 --> 02:00:15,630
to say no jingles or special
night name kind regards PIM from

2014
02:00:15,630 --> 02:00:18,060
Maastricht in the Netherlands,
so I'll just make him serve him.

2015
02:00:18,570 --> 02:00:21,780
I think he's Yes, sir. pimelodus
All right.

2016
02:00:23,130 --> 02:00:26,490
John C Dvorak: I guess it was
confusing. Yeah. Maggie tindora

2017
02:00:26,490 --> 02:00:32,790
Finn, Carlsbad, New Mexico 350.
In honor of my smokin hot candy

2018
02:00:32,790 --> 02:00:36,870
and avian husband's birthday on
June 20, I am donating 350 for

2019
02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:41,370
Martin north to pull them out of
his current douchebag status.

2020
02:00:43,230 --> 02:00:48,030
You've been de deuced Happy
Birthday. Keep up the great

2021
02:00:48,030 --> 02:00:49,110
work. Very

2022
02:00:49,110 --> 02:00:54,000
Adam Curry: nice. Douglas Murray
Missoula, Montana 338 dot 33

2023
02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:57,450
first executive producer
donation so it's doing some

2024
02:00:57,450 --> 02:01:01,830
heavy lifting. Happy birthday to
my mom Jerry and Happy Father's

2025
02:01:01,830 --> 02:01:06,570
Day to my dad. They lost a son
on May 29. Rest in peace and my

2026
02:01:06,570 --> 02:01:10,530
brother and his wife don't do
drugs. He says their babies are

2027
02:01:10,530 --> 02:01:13,500
in great hands. So send them
your love and that sounds like a

2028
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:18,810
drama. This is a partial
switcheroo please boost my sis

2029
02:01:18,810 --> 02:01:24,240
to bear Netis Dame Ellen of the
dream realm. I'd been a Baronet

2030
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:27,120
already myself, but I went all
in on the dame drive back in the

2031
02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:29,670
early days of COVID to get her a
ring and never gotten I did

2032
02:01:29,670 --> 02:01:33,720
myself. Oh man. You're a great
brother. Please help me sir. Did

2033
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:38,220
you top of the sharp shovel boot
karma for me please? I'm sorry.

2034
02:01:38,250 --> 02:01:41,760
I must have missed the boob
karma. Is there such a thing?

2035
02:01:42,300 --> 02:01:49,200
No. We don't have I don't see
your boob karma. Rattlesnake and

2036
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:53,010
eggs with Miss cow at the round
table. If I may thank you for

2037
02:01:53,010 --> 02:01:56,760
your courage Douglas Murray.
Well, we do have some karma for

2038
02:01:56,760 --> 02:01:59,880
you but not at the booboo you've
got karma but I'm sure you'll

2039
02:01:59,880 --> 02:02:03,420
get it works with karma. You ask
you receive

2040
02:02:04,590 --> 02:02:10,440
John C Dvorak: Connor Balian tip
city Ohio. Three Three 3.69 ITM

2041
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:12,630
gentlemen, I couldn't resist the
opportunity to donate to the

2042
02:02:12,630 --> 02:02:17,520
show number that ends in 69. Can
you please consider this a

2043
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:21,270
randomizer donation as I don't
want my total donation

2044
02:02:21,270 --> 02:02:26,430
accounting to be that many sixes
in a row? Please also de douche

2045
02:02:26,430 --> 02:02:33,420
my friends sir Nick Leary. Ben
de deuced is a night where he's

2046
02:02:33,420 --> 02:02:38,340
never been deduced. I don't
think he needed it. Adam, I

2047
02:02:38,340 --> 02:02:41,940
think what you're doing with
booster gram balls and Bitcoin

2048
02:02:42,150 --> 02:02:46,680
could revolutionize the music
industry. And peer to peer

2049
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:51,300
payments. perfect use case for
bit playing. I haven't heard one

2050
02:02:51,300 --> 02:02:56,040
in a while. I'll have to tune
back in. send prayers instead of

2051
02:02:56,040 --> 02:03:02,280
a jingle. Can I get an OH NO
from John. Oh, no. Thank you for

2052
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:06,390
your courage. Connor Bailey. In
Columbus, Ohio, Columbus, Ohio.

2053
02:03:07,500 --> 02:03:13,620
Adam Curry: Becky, Kenny, Kenny,
and he she is in Katy, Texas.

2054
02:03:13,710 --> 02:03:17,880
Happy Father's Day, James. Thank
you. Appreciate that. Please see

2055
02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:21,990
Pay Pal donation of 333 dot 33
To celebrate Father's Day from

2056
02:03:21,990 --> 02:03:27,270
my wonderful husband, Baronet.
Well, Baronet Mike, of the great

2057
02:03:27,270 --> 02:03:31,230
Katy Prairie. Just look at what
great fathers our sons are to

2058
02:03:31,230 --> 02:03:35,280
see how good a father you are. I
love you honey. Keep up the good

2059
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:38,790
work no jingles no karma regards
Becky Kenny Dame with a great

2060
02:03:38,790 --> 02:03:40,860
Katy Prairie. That's a beautiful
one Becky.

2061
02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:44,520
John C Dvorak: Dame Greta
Harrington comes up from sparks

2062
02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:48,690
Nevada. 33333 ITM John and Adam,
Happy Father's Day. Thank you

2063
02:03:48,690 --> 02:03:49,680
for your courage,

2064
02:03:49,860 --> 02:03:54,030
Adam Curry: sir Larry Columbus,
Ohio. 333 dot 20. Sir Larry here

2065
02:03:54,030 --> 02:03:56,850
Happy Father's Day to my dad
Robert Leary. This is a

2066
02:03:56,850 --> 02:04:00,240
switcheroo donation. So the
executive producer credit goes

2067
02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:04,920
to him. Also Central Ohio meetup
Friday, June 21. And there will

2068
02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:09,420
be a Dayton Ohio meetup Saturday
June 22. You got it.

2069
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:15,930
John C Dvorak: Okay, now, I have
to get the notes out. Once you

2070
02:04:15,930 --> 02:04:17,310
read this when he added a note
in front of you.

2071
02:04:17,850 --> 02:04:22,800
Adam Curry: Yes, I think I do.
What is my my my my soul? My

2072
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:25,170
small screens, man. My small
screens.

2073
02:04:26,820 --> 02:04:28,650
John C Dvorak: Shoot where it
was right near me. And I

2074
02:04:28,650 --> 02:04:33,930
Adam Curry: got it. I got I
haven't notes open. This is from

2075
02:04:34,650 --> 02:04:39,870
it's this. This is a $300. Yes,
I'm saying that right. Yes. And

2076
02:04:39,870 --> 02:04:44,280
this is from Charlotte from San
Francisco. And I have the note

2077
02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:48,000
here. Luckily, it's a yellow
paper. Apparently, there's a

2078
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:52,290
post it note. Adam and John.
Listen to your show often and

2079
02:04:52,290 --> 02:04:56,010
never feel I've wasted my time
aiming for a dame hood for a

2080
02:04:56,010 --> 02:04:59,970
year from now. I have my number
straight. Okay, I hope you do.

2081
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:04,410
Thanks for anchoring so many of
us to sanity anchoring to

2082
02:05:04,410 --> 02:05:09,390
sanity. With lots of last thrown
in, keep on keepin on, says

2083
02:05:09,390 --> 02:05:10,110
Charlotte

2084
02:05:12,780 --> 02:05:18,420
John C Dvorak: the general with
a Ge, Ge Ge and Wyatt Jen with a

2085
02:05:18,420 --> 02:05:26,550
G Gen or Gen Gen Gen a Gen G Gen
Gen with a G A G G and Wyatt

2086
02:05:28,140 --> 02:05:31,860
then Liberty Lake Washington. tu
tu tu tu tu tu first Associate

2087
02:05:31,860 --> 02:05:36,330
Executive Producer. This row of
ducks is to honor Kyle the spook

2088
02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:40,920
A Spokane this Father's Day is
brought more joy to us as a

2089
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:43,980
father than we could have ever
imagined. Please send us more

2090
02:05:43,980 --> 02:05:48,600
baby making karma we got that.
Still working on it but as you

2091
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:53,550
to suggested John Adam will be
on the list of possible names.

2092
02:05:55,380 --> 02:06:00,990
We love you Kyle. Love Jen with
a Ge, Ge Ge and Wyatt. Imagine

2093
02:06:00,990 --> 02:06:01,890
if they have twins.

2094
02:06:03,030 --> 02:06:07,560
Adam Curry: It's John Adams. Or
how about Charles and Clark? Our

2095
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:11,820
middle names is also not good
you happen to bend over kids

2096
02:06:11,820 --> 02:06:13,620
here's your bad karma

2097
02:06:15,270 --> 02:06:17,070
John C Dvorak: is not the baby
making karma?

2098
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:21,690
Adam Curry: Yeah it is Dane best
not Oh you're right I'm sorry

2099
02:06:23,670 --> 02:06:28,200
it's so new the baby making
karma that I forgot we had it

2100
02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:31,290
here we go. There's your baby
making karma Come on, baby. Come

2101
02:06:31,290 --> 02:06:31,770
on up.

2102
02:06:34,140 --> 02:06:39,930
Unknown: You've got Parma

2103
02:06:41,700 --> 02:06:44,730
Adam Curry: you put that one
together yourself? I did on

2104
02:06:44,730 --> 02:06:52,230
Audacity. Yeah. Cool. That's a
good one. Day Beth is in Tucson

2105
02:06:52,260 --> 02:06:56,490
with a row of ducks. 222 dot 22
Heil boys, calling all Tucson

2106
02:06:56,490 --> 02:06:59,970
slaves to join us for libation
snacks and fun. During the

2107
02:06:59,970 --> 02:07:04,470
second summer solstice Soiree.
This Thursday at Kings crown

2108
02:07:04,470 --> 02:07:08,100
from four to seven. It's a dry
heat. No jingles no karma damn

2109
02:07:08,100 --> 02:07:10,530
Beth bareness of the Baja
Arizona.

2110
02:07:11,790 --> 02:07:13,980
Unknown: Que me to do this.

2111
02:07:15,180 --> 02:07:17,130
John C Dvorak: I got de you
might as well you got him open

2112
02:07:17,130 --> 02:07:17,250
to

2113
02:07:17,250 --> 02:07:22,290
Adam Curry: him. Bang bang to
1875 John Adam, it has been a

2114
02:07:22,290 --> 02:07:25,320
long time since my last
donation. Wishing you both a

2115
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:28,200
Happy Father's Day. Thank you.
Did you get anything for

2116
02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:28,830
Father's Day?

2117
02:07:29,940 --> 02:07:31,470
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I gotta get
from J.

2118
02:07:31,500 --> 02:07:33,630
Adam Curry: Oh, what did she
give you? Can we talk about it?

2119
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:37,920
John C Dvorak: Well, it was it
was what she gave me is a crazy

2120
02:07:37,950 --> 02:07:43,920
something she saw on Tik Tok.
Yes. It's a crazy Lazy Susan

2121
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:48,390
device that goes onto one of the
shelves with your refrigerator.

2122
02:07:48,990 --> 02:07:51,000
And you load it up with
everything you need to spin it

2123
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:54,090
around and it tucks back in
there. It's an absolutely key.

2124
02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:58,860
If you have a refrigerator
that's deep like I do. It's the

2125
02:07:58,860 --> 02:08:01,680
only way and get to the stuff in
the back. It works great. What

2126
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:04,710
are you gonna put in it
condiments? No, it's all

2127
02:08:04,710 --> 02:08:08,310
condiments already. She already
installed it. And yeah, it's

2128
02:08:08,310 --> 02:08:10,770
called most economists. And in
fact, in the process of doing

2129
02:08:10,770 --> 02:08:13,680
that I discovered a mustard that
I lost somehow in the

2130
02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:14,760
refrigerator years

2131
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:17,640
Adam Curry: ago. Any other
treasures back there?

2132
02:08:18,540 --> 02:08:22,680
John C Dvorak: Not anything
major. Okay, good. My

2133
02:08:22,680 --> 02:08:25,260
Adam Curry: daughter is taking
me on a pancake boat tour.

2134
02:08:27,540 --> 02:08:30,060
John C Dvorak: Do pancakes
float? No.

2135
02:08:30,090 --> 02:08:32,580
Adam Curry: But they will be
making pancakes while they tour

2136
02:08:32,580 --> 02:08:36,870
through the waters of Rotterdam.
Which I've never done. Yeah,

2137
02:08:36,900 --> 02:08:39,210
never done that. And it's
supposed to be beautiful weather

2138
02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:45,210
when we do it on Tuesday. So
back to Dame Bang Bang wishing

2139
02:08:45,210 --> 02:08:47,520
us both a Happy Father's Day.
Please accept this donation in

2140
02:08:47,550 --> 02:08:51,660
honor of Sir DH slammer. Who is
a wonderful father and husband.

2141
02:08:51,810 --> 02:08:58,050
He will be celebrating his
birthday on 618 So this is a

2142
02:08:58,050 --> 02:09:02,400
we'll have a we'll have on the
list. Happy Father's Day and

2143
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:07,770
birthday. My night love Dane
bang bang. Isn't that nice?

2144
02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:12,600
John C Dvorak: He will he got
Zedek Gazette is a doc Zadar ZZ

2145
02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:22,830
Doc Brown to third. And Maka
Maka Wha Oh. In Hawaii to 1270

2146
02:09:23,610 --> 02:09:26,250
and no note NOAC anything you're
used to double up karma.

2147
02:09:28,230 --> 02:09:31,830
Unknown: You've got karma.

2148
02:09:33,450 --> 02:09:37,260
Adam Curry: Amy Lipinski Cold
Springs Minnesota to 1060 must

2149
02:09:37,260 --> 02:09:39,210
include some fees there
appreciate it. Good morning,

2150
02:09:39,210 --> 02:09:44,400
gents. Switch route today for my
my excuse me. My smokin hot

2151
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:47,550
husband Dan the man Dan
Lipinski. Happy Father's Day

2152
02:09:47,670 --> 02:09:51,210
from your loving wife Amy Lynn
and your loving but sometimes

2153
02:09:51,210 --> 02:09:56,220
difficult daughter zayley. Thank
you for all you do for us. Is it

2154
02:09:56,220 --> 02:09:57,540
is zayley zayley. I

2155
02:09:57,540 --> 02:10:00,120
John C Dvorak: think it's just a
difficult daughter I think a

2156
02:10:00,450 --> 02:10:01,110
mnemonic

2157
02:10:01,140 --> 02:10:04,170
Adam Curry: is there any other
kind? That's at certain ages?

2158
02:10:04,170 --> 02:10:06,870
They're all difficult daughters.
That's what dads would tell you

2159
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:10,410
if they're honest. Thank you for
all you do for us. Dan used

2160
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:14,490
dailies Christmas money on a
donation for me for Mother's

2161
02:10:14,490 --> 02:10:17,340
Day. So I figured we might as
well use her birthday money for

2162
02:10:17,730 --> 02:10:21,420
it but Father's Day that's how
you do it with those difficult

2163
02:10:21,420 --> 02:10:25,380
daughters Good job mom. seemed
logical to me. Anyway, thank you

2164
02:10:25,380 --> 02:10:27,990
Dan for supporting us always and
really supporting me in his

2165
02:10:27,990 --> 02:10:31,620
first year of running my own
business. If you're in my area,

2166
02:10:31,650 --> 02:10:35,070
Cold Spring Minnesota and are in
need of a new hairstylist. Look

2167
02:10:35,070 --> 02:10:41,430
me up. Refreshed, LLC. That's
refreshed, LLC. Thank you, John

2168
02:10:41,430 --> 02:10:44,700
and Adam for your continued
media construction. It is highly

2169
02:10:44,700 --> 02:10:48,270
appreciated. Happy Father's Day
all father's out there from Amy

2170
02:10:48,270 --> 02:10:49,170
Lipinski.

2171
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:54,540
John C Dvorak: Anonymous in
Colorado to under seven bucks.

2172
02:10:55,620 --> 02:10:59,460
This donation is in memory of my
father, a guy worthy of a Kid

2173
02:10:59,460 --> 02:11:03,480
Rock song who was taken from us
by dem aside in the COVID

2174
02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:08,580
nightmare of summer 2021. I
transmitted it to him and while

2175
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he could have easily been saved
by early treatment, instead, he

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was allowed to die alone in a
hospital surrounded by people

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who load him to guilt his broken
me and my mom is completely

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nosedives sense. Christians,
including myself better wake up

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to the reality that you'll be
turning the other cheek when

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some gun toting POS government
dude wearing a dress is loading

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02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:38,070
you into a box car. So I know
the show's already has one bus,

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goat calm and God bless you both
John and Adam.

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Adam Curry: Wow, I'm sorry to
hear that anonymous. Can be

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02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:53,790
praying for him. You've got
karma. Wise words, wise words

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02:11:53,820 --> 02:11:58,740
Eli, the coffee guy, Bensenville
Illinois 206 13. And he wants to

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dedicate this Father's Day
donation to the man who

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influenced him most. He says my
grandfather Bucky gear Tich

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gear, which I think is gear
teach Bucky. He was union he was

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a union pipe cover, who helped
build several nuclear power

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plants and refineries throughout
the Midwest, and was the type of

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guy who could fix just about
anything with a roll of duct

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02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:24,840
tape, a wrench and a
screwdriver. If you're alive, if

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that's a man, that's an American
man right there. If he were

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alive today, I believe Bucky
would have enjoyed no agenda.

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One of his favorite saying was
kid, look who's getting paid and

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that'll tell you everything you
need to know. A karma for all

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the dads out there this Father's
Day and remember, it's always a

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caffeinated Eli the coffee guy.
You've got karma

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John C Dvorak: then you loop
Atkins up and she says she's in

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Lakewood, Colorado. She says
this is a little different. Is

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200 bucks. Like podcasting.
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Adam Curry: no, you misread it
when you said a great friend

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makes it easier. But

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John C Dvorak: a great resume
makes it easier. No she's a

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friend all the resume okay

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John C Dvorak: go to Image
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That's her job bonus.

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Adam Curry: Big bonus. And
finally, our last Associate

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Executive producer is Chase
Tomlinson in Austin, Texas $200

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While I was happy and proud of

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Chase. I encourage this
activity. And with that we thank

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all of our meetup participants
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1669 episode, donations or
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Executive producers we
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Unknown: Our formula is this. We
go out. We hit people in the

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02:14:54,930 --> 02:14:55,230
mouth

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02:15:09,750 --> 02:15:12,540
Adam Curry: All right. I want to
I want to hit us with the bird

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02:15:12,540 --> 02:15:15,570
flu right away because they
cannot stop. They just can't

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02:15:15,570 --> 02:15:21,270
stop for whatever reason. They
can't stop. And it's spreading.

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02:15:21,300 --> 02:15:23,130
Not what have some CBS clips. I

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02:15:23,130 --> 02:15:25,290
John C Dvorak: know you probably
noticed that spreading it all.

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Adam Curry: The meme is
spreading the bird flu mean.

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02:15:28,110 --> 02:15:30,900
John C Dvorak: Yes, yes, for
sure. Yeah, that right and most

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02:15:30,900 --> 02:15:32,880
Adam Curry: interesting, I would
have to say and I do have some

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02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:35,880
CBS clips. I know you have a
couple as well, because we have

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02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:38,730
to stay on top of this because
we were a little lacks. When

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02:15:38,730 --> 02:15:41,760
that COVID thing came along. We
were laughing at the people

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02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:46,080
fallen down on Tik Tok in China.
He was all funny. And there was

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02:15:46,080 --> 02:15:48,720
no one dying and they were just
ramping it up and then all of a

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02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:51,870
sudden we were locked down and
life change for everybody. But

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02:15:51,870 --> 02:15:56,940
now it is we already identified
this happening on the last show

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02:15:57,150 --> 02:16:04,110
where Chris Cuomo started
talking about you know, the the

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02:16:04,110 --> 02:16:09,030
flu vid and the flu Vax and
should we take it who did and I

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02:16:09,030 --> 02:16:14,670
think news, I think News, News
News Mac news nation has been

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02:16:14,670 --> 02:16:19,380
compromised. And this is the
Cuomo show with some feeling kid

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02:16:19,800 --> 02:16:21,840
and listen to what he has to
say, could

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Unknown: we be on the verge of
another pandemic and one that

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02:16:25,470 --> 02:16:29,160
could be even worse than the one
caused by Coronavirus. This

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02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:32,580
time, it could actually be bird
flu. Let's hope not. The CDC is

2258
02:16:32,580 --> 02:16:36,420
now calling for more testing for
bird flu at America's farms

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02:16:36,420 --> 02:16:40,140
sounding alarms after several
farm workers contracted the

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02:16:40,140 --> 02:16:45,120
disease from animals since 2003.
There have been 888 confirmed

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02:16:45,120 --> 02:16:49,800
human cases worldwide, according
to the DC, CDC, but but here's

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02:16:49,800 --> 02:16:53,940
the scary part half of those
half of those patients died from

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02:16:53,940 --> 02:16:58,950
the disease. Compare that to
COVID in which just 0.6% of

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02:16:58,950 --> 02:17:03,240
people who tested positive
actually died. The fear now is

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02:17:03,240 --> 02:17:07,620
that the bird flu is changing,
adapting and could spread to not

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02:17:07,620 --> 02:17:10,860
just birds, but also cattle and
pigs and then eventually spread

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02:17:10,890 --> 02:17:12,300
from human to human.

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02:17:12,929 --> 02:17:15,359
Adam Curry: So that's just the
setup. Well, that's

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02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:17,220
John C Dvorak: worse than
anything report I've heard

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02:17:17,220 --> 02:17:22,830
because he's used the current
the term is changing. And

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02:17:22,830 --> 02:17:24,390
adapting. It's not.

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Adam Curry: Oh, but it doesn't
have to do anything. It doesn't

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02:17:27,269 --> 02:17:33,149
have to exist. All I'm waiting
for now is Johns Hopkins. This

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02:17:33,149 --> 02:17:35,039
one needs to come out with some
charts.

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02:17:35,250 --> 02:17:38,640
John C Dvorak: I think we need I
think we're in intermix with my

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02:17:38,640 --> 02:17:40,800
three clips as a Johns Hopkins

2277
02:17:40,800 --> 02:17:42,750
Adam Curry: may really you
really have a Johns Hopkins

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02:17:42,750 --> 02:17:43,800
mentioned I

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02:17:43,860 --> 02:17:46,230
John C Dvorak: just mentioned, I
think there may be one in there.

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02:17:46,620 --> 02:17:48,390
Adam Curry: Well, let me let me
get through these. And let's see

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02:17:48,390 --> 02:17:52,650
if you have a Johns Hopkins.
This is the introduction of a

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02:17:52,650 --> 02:17:57,240
guy who I kind of had respect
for but I've lost it now. This

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02:17:57,240 --> 02:18:02,010
is Redfield, the guy from the
CDC who resigned who left he was

2284
02:18:02,010 --> 02:18:07,200
like this is no good and he was
kind of in the in the man this

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02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:09,150
is bullcrap. We shouldn't have
done it this way

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02:18:09,150 --> 02:18:11,520
John C Dvorak: Academy put a gun
to his head there. Yeah, yeah.

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02:18:11,550 --> 02:18:12,090
Hey,

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02:18:13,050 --> 02:18:14,190
Adam Curry: what's this picture
man?

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02:18:14,910 --> 02:18:17,700
Unknown: Former CDC director
Robert Redfield, who helped

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02:18:17,700 --> 02:18:21,270
oversee our country's response
to COVID says it is definitely

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02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:25,050
time to take this more
seriously. And Dr. Redfield

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02:18:25,050 --> 02:18:27,900
joins me live now. It's always
nice to see you, doctor. I

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02:18:27,900 --> 02:18:32,160
remember you told Chris not long
ago, that the bird flu could

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02:18:32,160 --> 02:18:36,180
make COVID COVID look like a
little pandemic, which was quite

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02:18:36,180 --> 02:18:39,480
alarming. I mean, is that really
the case? Yes, Brian,

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02:18:39,480 --> 02:18:43,680
I really do think it's very
likely that we will at some

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02:18:43,680 --> 02:18:47,670
time, it's not a question of, if
it's more of a question of when

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02:18:47,670 --> 02:18:53,280
we will have a bird flu
pandemic. And, as you mentioned,

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02:18:53,280 --> 02:18:58,950
unfortunately, bird flu has,
when it does enter humans has a

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02:18:58,950 --> 02:19:04,500
significant mortality, probably
somewhere between 25 and 50%

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02:19:04,500 --> 02:19:08,970
mortality. So it's going to be
quite complicated. Since 2019,

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we've had a progressive increase
in bird flu in chickens and

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02:19:12,420 --> 02:19:15,840
ducks and turkeys in our
country. And since then, you've

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02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:20,550
seen it now go into a number of
mammals. It's now in over 25

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02:19:20,550 --> 02:19:23,940
different mammals, I think now
with the lions recently is now

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02:19:23,940 --> 02:19:27,600
in 27 minutes in the llamas
animals in the United States.

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02:19:27,810 --> 02:19:32,640
Why is that important? Is why
know exactly what has to happen

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for bird flu to be infectious
for you and go human to human

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02:19:37,230 --> 02:19:42,240
scientist in 2012 actually did
experiments in the lab using

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02:19:42,510 --> 02:19:46,440
function research, which I'm not
in favor of, but two scientists

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02:19:46,440 --> 02:19:49,740
did it and they figured the five
amino acids that have to change

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02:19:49,740 --> 02:19:55,650
in a key receptor in order for
us to gain a propensity to bind

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02:19:55,650 --> 02:19:59,130
to the human receptor and then
be able to go human to human. So

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02:19:59,130 --> 02:20:02,790
Adam Curry: if I hear this Guy
correctly, he's just saying it

2315
02:20:02,790 --> 02:20:06,810
that all they have to do is pull
the trigger the recipe you can

2316
02:20:06,810 --> 02:20:11,820
get it from me Chad GPT they
just have to change the five

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02:20:11,820 --> 02:20:15,030
little bits and then we can have
bird flu. That's what he's

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02:20:15,030 --> 02:20:15,630
saying.

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02:20:16,380 --> 02:20:18,510
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's very
true what they're doing this

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02:20:18,510 --> 02:20:20,820
what they're working on is that
like, you know, the Peter

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McCullough clips describe this
perfectly, and they named the

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02:20:24,120 --> 02:20:27,090
lab and the people. He did a
pretty good job of that even

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02:20:27,090 --> 02:20:29,580
though I got a nasty note from
somebody saying up here, my call

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02:20:29,580 --> 02:20:30,570
is part of the op.

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Adam Curry: Well, he's certainly
well, if the OP is to tell us

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02:20:36,270 --> 02:20:39,660
that they I mean, what I'm
hearing now because this is news

2327
02:20:39,660 --> 02:20:45,270
nation. This is not CNN is not
CBS. CBS is not NPR. And we know

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02:20:45,300 --> 02:20:49,020
this is the Cuomo show, which by
itself is clearly some kind of

2329
02:20:49,080 --> 02:20:56,640
op. Clearly guy can't apologize
for anything. And then take that

2330
02:20:56,640 --> 02:20:59,640
with what Macaulay is saying
they are basically saying

2331
02:20:59,850 --> 02:21:06,660
without saying it, they can do
it to you. They can do it. Now

2332
02:21:06,660 --> 02:21:09,810
what that means is little
interesting because I don't

2333
02:21:09,810 --> 02:21:13,290
recall McCullough saying 50% of
people will die from the bird

2334
02:21:13,290 --> 02:21:15,300
flu there's no evidence so

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02:21:15,300 --> 02:21:17,730
John C Dvorak: he's the
opposite. Yeah, he said this is

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02:21:17,730 --> 02:21:21,270
all the people that is and he
said I'll just reiterate without

2337
02:21:21,270 --> 02:21:25,170
him to play these clips again.
He said that the people who died

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02:21:25,170 --> 02:21:28,830
at a higher death rate of bird
flu are the ones out in the

2339
02:21:28,830 --> 02:21:33,120
middle of nowhere China, where
are they handling a lot of birds

2340
02:21:33,120 --> 02:21:36,120
and again Depp getting bird flu
and then they never get treated

2341
02:21:36,150 --> 02:21:40,500
at all and they're just left to
die and so they die at a high

2342
02:21:40,500 --> 02:21:46,140
rate but that's not what would
happen in a normal situation. So

2343
02:21:46,140 --> 02:21:49,410
that the bogus that deaths rate
numbers bogus

2344
02:21:49,410 --> 02:21:53,130
Adam Curry: Okay, so but but the
idea they can do it Redfield is

2345
02:21:53,130 --> 02:21:54,150
now propagating the

2346
02:21:54,390 --> 02:21:56,400
John C Dvorak: idea what they
could do is not kill people

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02:21:56,400 --> 02:22:00,330
whose is the changed amino acid
so it becomes human, the human

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02:22:00,330 --> 02:22:03,720
transmissible, but according to
Makala, again, this is just a

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02:22:03,750 --> 02:22:06,750
result in everybody having
conjunctivitis it would be kind

2350
02:22:06,750 --> 02:22:09,300
of gory to watch, look around at
what people look

2351
02:22:09,300 --> 02:22:11,880
Adam Curry: like. And we'll have
to test with swabs in our eyes,

2352
02:22:11,880 --> 02:22:12,060
which

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02:22:13,020 --> 02:22:16,050
John C Dvorak: that is right. I
forgot about that. Yes, well,

2354
02:22:16,200 --> 02:22:16,560
well,

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02:22:16,590 --> 02:22:19,710
Adam Curry: I think the key word
here is just like we had the

2356
02:22:19,800 --> 02:22:25,200
ferrets during COVID I think the
llamas, the llamas are the ones

2357
02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:27,630
who look out for when the llama
start keeling over, then you

2358
02:22:27,630 --> 02:22:28,560
know they've released

2359
02:22:28,560 --> 02:22:30,990
Unknown: it, is it like COVID?
Where if you cough someone else

2360
02:22:30,990 --> 02:22:33,180
can get it? Is that how it
spreads? Or does it spread a

2361
02:22:33,180 --> 02:22:34,170
different way? No,

2362
02:22:34,170 --> 02:22:37,470
it's likely to spread through
aerosols and droplets is how

2363
02:22:37,470 --> 02:22:41,760
it's going to eventually spread
mascot. And once the once the

2364
02:22:41,790 --> 02:22:45,390
virus gains the ability to
attach to the human receptor,

2365
02:22:46,050 --> 02:22:49,110
and then go human to human,
that's when you're going to have

2366
02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:52,410
the pandemic. And as I said, I
think it's just a matter of

2367
02:22:52,410 --> 02:22:57,030
time. Normally, the five amino
acid changes is a huge, huge

2368
02:22:57,030 --> 02:23:01,200
species barrier. So who knows
how long that will take but as

2369
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:04,290
it goes into more and more
different mammals, it's changing

2370
02:23:04,290 --> 02:23:07,170
its use of receptors. It's
changing. It's changing. It's

2371
02:23:07,170 --> 02:23:10,530
learning to how to use different
receptors for dolphins and

2372
02:23:10,530 --> 02:23:15,690
seals. And it's learning how to
use receptors. I

2373
02:23:15,690 --> 02:23:19,230
Adam Curry: think seal flew is
cool dolphin flew. I can't come

2374
02:23:19,230 --> 02:23:20,520
to work. I got dolphin flu.

2375
02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:24,600
Unknown: And it's learning how
to use receptors in bears and

2376
02:23:24,600 --> 02:23:28,980
polar bears and polar bears and
raccoons and cats. Cats. Oh,

2377
02:23:28,980 --> 02:23:31,950
it's going through a lot of
changes in polar bears.

2378
02:23:34,590 --> 02:23:37,320
Adam Curry: There's money in
testing polar bears. I guarantee

2379
02:23:37,320 --> 02:23:37,950
you, Susie

2380
02:23:37,950 --> 02:23:41,640
Unknown: and raccoons and cats.
So it's going through a lot of

2381
02:23:41,640 --> 02:23:45,720
changes. And it's as it picks up
cold and flu middies new

2382
02:23:45,720 --> 02:23:49,530
receptors, it can get closer and
closer to humans recently in

2383
02:23:49,530 --> 02:23:52,860
cattle, you know where it was
recently described and now is in

2384
02:23:52,860 --> 02:23:57,270
the significant number of cattle
in the United States. You know,

2385
02:23:57,270 --> 02:24:02,070
I'm concerned about that because
cattle live close to pigs and a

2386
02:24:02,070 --> 02:24:06,390
lot of times in flu. There's
been a relationship of flu going

2387
02:24:06,390 --> 02:24:10,620
from pigs to humans as it's
trying to evolve wise.

2388
02:24:12,510 --> 02:24:14,970
John C Dvorak: China is where
you have this mixture of

2389
02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:19,320
livestock we don't have I don't
know of any cop get called

2390
02:24:19,320 --> 02:24:21,690
farmers who have a bunch of pigs
mixed in.

2391
02:24:22,140 --> 02:24:24,540
Adam Curry: No You're
misunderstanding you

2392
02:24:24,540 --> 02:24:25,650
misunderstanding.

2393
02:24:26,910 --> 02:24:28,950
John C Dvorak: When he said my
misunderstanding he says that

2394
02:24:28,950 --> 02:24:32,070
the cows are going to give it to
the pigs and it's gonna mix up

2395
02:24:32,070 --> 02:24:36,450
into a witch's brew of God knows
what is going to come out and

2396
02:24:36,450 --> 02:24:37,830
kill us all. That's what I
heard.

2397
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:39,870
Adam Curry: No, you need to
understand the code when they

2398
02:24:39,870 --> 02:24:40,830
say pigs.

2399
02:24:55,290 --> 02:24:59,160
That's the code word, because to
them we're just pigs in human

2400
02:24:59,160 --> 02:25:03,630
clothing. Pigs are all pigs to
them concerned

2401
02:25:03,630 --> 02:25:07,650
Unknown: about that because
cattle live close to pigs and a

2402
02:25:07,650 --> 02:25:11,940
lot of times in flu, there's
been a relationship of flu going

2403
02:25:11,940 --> 02:25:15,420
from pigs to humans as it's
trying to evolve in gaining the

2404
02:25:15,420 --> 02:25:19,260
receptors it needs to go human.
I'm less concern, though, that

2405
02:25:19,260 --> 02:25:24,960
this will happen through
spillover and evolution are much

2406
02:25:24,960 --> 02:25:28,920
more concerned that this will
happen in the laboratory to gain

2407
02:25:28,920 --> 02:25:30,030
a functional research.

2408
02:25:30,060 --> 02:25:33,360
Adam Curry: I mean, just say it,
they're gonna do it mail in

2409
02:25:33,360 --> 02:25:36,960
ballots mask up, flatten the
curve, the CDC weighs

2410
02:25:36,960 --> 02:25:39,750
Unknown: in on the medical life,
the CDC is tracking two drug

2411
02:25:39,750 --> 02:25:43,500
resistant flu strains. They're
mutations of the h1 and one

2412
02:25:43,500 --> 02:25:47,580
virus which was responsible for
the swine flu pandemic and 2009.

2413
02:25:47,970 --> 02:25:48,780
The news was

2414
02:25:48,780 --> 02:25:54,180
Adam Curry: not stop. I was
there. It was not a SWAT, they

2415
02:25:54,180 --> 02:25:56,970
did not call it a pandemic. Do
you remember them calling it?

2416
02:25:57,780 --> 02:26:00,990
John C Dvorak: You're wrong?
Really? It was that Chinese

2417
02:26:00,990 --> 02:26:03,990
woman if you remember, we were
doing the show. Yeah, it was

2418
02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:08,460
that Chinese woman who was the
head of the who, who out of the

2419
02:26:08,460 --> 02:26:12,600
blue, deemed it a pandemic? And
this is that flu that came out

2420
02:26:12,600 --> 02:26:15,390
of Mexico? I think it was
they're lined up for it

2421
02:26:15,390 --> 02:26:18,240
Adam Curry: for the shots of the
only clip I have is this

2422
02:26:18,240 --> 02:26:21,420
Unknown: I discovered a new
strain of the flu that has the

2423
02:26:21,420 --> 02:26:23,490
potential to become a pandemic

2424
02:26:23,490 --> 02:26:25,410
Adam Curry: that it had pandemic
potential.

2425
02:26:25,830 --> 02:26:28,320
John C Dvorak: No, no, she I'm
telling you I can do the

2426
02:26:28,320 --> 02:26:32,130
research if I have to. But I'm
telling you, she called it a

2427
02:26:32,130 --> 02:26:36,270
pandemic and it just didn't
stick the way did with COVID She

2428
02:26:36,270 --> 02:26:40,050
nobody took her too seriously.
She's She was just not a good

2429
02:26:40,080 --> 02:26:46,800
age who person. Pandemic Okay,
okay. I never was much of one

2430
02:26:46,800 --> 02:26:49,890
except in fact that they lined
up I had pictures I had photos

2431
02:26:50,190 --> 02:26:53,880
at the Albany library of people
lined up around the block Luca

2432
02:26:53,880 --> 02:26:54,720
Star Wars

2433
02:26:55,470 --> 02:26:57,990
Adam Curry: to get their swine
flu shot. I remember that.

2434
02:26:59,070 --> 02:27:01,920
Unknown: All right, let's
continue pandemic and 2009. The

2435
02:27:01,920 --> 02:27:05,010
new strains are more resistant
to the flu treatment Tamiflu,

2436
02:27:05,220 --> 02:27:08,610
and also retain sensitivity to
other anti flu medications.

2437
02:27:08,910 --> 02:27:12,390
Despite this, the CDC is not
recommending any changes to

2438
02:27:12,390 --> 02:27:14,610
clinical care for the mutated
virus.

2439
02:27:16,110 --> 02:27:18,780
Adam Curry: So they're just
pushing all kinds of noise into

2440
02:27:18,780 --> 02:27:21,570
the ether. I have a couple of
CBS clips but I want you to play

2441
02:27:21,570 --> 02:27:23,580
your NPR clips first.

2442
02:27:23,940 --> 02:27:27,390
John C Dvorak: I believe this to
be from NT de Oh, it

2443
02:27:27,390 --> 02:27:32,850
Adam Curry: says NPR. It does.
It says NPR clip one NPR? Well,

2444
02:27:32,850 --> 02:27:36,420
we'll know we know if they go
Hey, hi. Hello, boy. Yeah. Hey,

2445
02:27:36,420 --> 02:27:38,550
how you doing Toppy? Yeah, then
we'll be

2446
02:27:39,150 --> 02:27:42,570
John C Dvorak: rollin. Oh, yes,
I'm sorry. You're right. Clip

2447
02:27:42,570 --> 02:27:45,570
one NPR and D G.

2448
02:27:45,990 --> 02:27:49,470
Unknown: Does the US have bird
flu under control? It's hard to

2449
02:27:49,470 --> 02:27:52,800
tell even though it's been close
to three months since the virus

2450
02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:55,710
was first spotted in dairy
cattle. New cases are still

2451
02:27:55,710 --> 02:27:59,130
cropping up most recently in
Wyoming and Texas. This week,

2452
02:27:59,130 --> 02:28:02,010
federal health agencies released
several new assessments of the

2453
02:28:02,010 --> 02:28:05,400
situation and PRs will stone is
here to tell us the latest Hey,

2454
02:28:05,400 --> 02:28:05,700
Well,

2455
02:28:05,790 --> 02:28:07,830
John C Dvorak: hey there. Hey,
Well, hey there.

2456
02:28:07,890 --> 02:28:09,990
Unknown: What can we learn from
these latest report? What

2457
02:28:09,990 --> 02:28:10,710
Adam Curry: are you learning?
Well,

2458
02:28:10,740 --> 02:28:13,140
Unknown: well, we got a better
sense of how bird flu is

2459
02:28:13,140 --> 02:28:16,230
spreading between different
dairy farms. The virus has been

2460
02:28:16,230 --> 02:28:19,800
detected in more than 90 herds
in a dozen states since late

2461
02:28:19,800 --> 02:28:23,910
March. Many of these cases were
in Michigan, the USDA drilled

2462
02:28:23,910 --> 02:28:26,850
down into what's happening
there. They found it's mainly

2463
02:28:26,850 --> 02:28:29,970
being transmitted from hurt to
hurt in three ways. So first,

2464
02:28:30,120 --> 02:28:33,270
through shared equipment and
vehicles. Second, people are

2465
02:28:33,270 --> 02:28:36,720
carrying the virus inadvertently
on their clothing or boots. And

2466
02:28:36,720 --> 02:28:39,390
finally, some animals that are
infected are moving between

2467
02:28:39,390 --> 02:28:43,110
farms, there had been concerned
that wild birds could be

2468
02:28:43,110 --> 02:28:47,190
repeatedly reintroducing the
virus into dairy cattle. So far,

2469
02:28:47,190 --> 02:28:50,160
federal officials say the
evidence does not support that,

2470
02:28:50,370 --> 02:28:54,570
based on genetic sequencing of
viral samples. It appears there

2471
02:28:54,570 --> 02:28:58,290
was a single spillover event
when a wildbird spread is below

2472
02:28:58,590 --> 02:29:03,510
in Texas sometime last year. And
that sparked this unprecedented

2473
02:29:03,510 --> 02:29:05,430
nationwide outbreak in dairy
cattle.

2474
02:29:05,700 --> 02:29:09,060
Adam Curry: It's really it's
really mixed. Hold on. It's

2475
02:29:09,060 --> 02:29:12,300
really interesting, how you
introduce us to the term

2476
02:29:12,300 --> 02:29:15,900
spillover, which was in a
totally different context. And

2477
02:29:15,900 --> 02:29:19,860
now we both had both had to clip
two clips today with the term

2478
02:29:19,860 --> 02:29:22,500
spillover Yeah. So

2479
02:29:22,500 --> 02:29:24,960
John C Dvorak: word they want to
put into public domain so we're

2480
02:29:24,960 --> 02:29:28,440
hearing it a lot. Yep. And
you're gonna hear it more. So

2481
02:29:28,830 --> 02:29:31,560
Adam Curry: and we will hear it
maybe we'll hear spillover it's

2482
02:29:31,560 --> 02:29:32,370
time to donate.

2483
02:29:33,270 --> 02:29:38,970
John C Dvorak: Yeah. We'll be
rich. So so this makes it now

2484
02:29:39,180 --> 02:29:43,020
McCullough in the previous clips
that we played a talked about

2485
02:29:43,020 --> 02:29:46,320
they infected some mallard
ducks. Yep. And the ducks are

2486
02:29:46,320 --> 02:29:49,680
floating around because how US
you explain it going from Texas

2487
02:29:49,680 --> 02:29:49,950
to

2488
02:29:50,130 --> 02:29:52,950
Adam Curry: migrate out to
Wyoming a migrate the mallard

2489
02:29:52,950 --> 02:29:54,480
ducks are big migrators

2490
02:29:54,660 --> 02:29:56,430
John C Dvorak: and their float,
are you but mallard ducks are

2491
02:29:56,430 --> 02:30:01,650
feeling all over the floaters.
And so by Meanwhile, they're in

2492
02:30:01,650 --> 02:30:04,620
denial about this because they
don't want to push the push it

2493
02:30:04,620 --> 02:30:08,700
push back on that lab that
created the mallard duck. And so

2494
02:30:08,700 --> 02:30:12,660
they end up with this bullcrap
story. Oh, it's because of the

2495
02:30:12,660 --> 02:30:16,290
same equipment and somebody's
got mud on their feet. We're

2496
02:30:16,290 --> 02:30:19,170
talking about Michigan and
Wyoming. This is not You're not

2497
02:30:19,200 --> 02:30:22,350
exchanging cattle between these
two states or?

2498
02:30:24,180 --> 02:30:25,500
Unknown: I mean, it's bull crap.

2499
02:30:26,190 --> 02:30:28,650
Adam Curry: How about Peking
duck Peking duck. That's how

2500
02:30:28,650 --> 02:30:31,320
it's gonna be. This can
originate from Peking duck. We

2501
02:30:31,320 --> 02:30:31,890
gotta blame it on

2502
02:30:32,160 --> 02:30:34,110
John C Dvorak: Dexter, one of
the prettiest ducks you've ever

2503
02:30:34,110 --> 02:30:38,520
seen in your life and tasty.
They are very tasty. Yes,

2504
02:30:38,520 --> 02:30:42,750
indeed. All right. Anwar was
more than now. So there's some

2505
02:30:42,750 --> 02:30:46,170
reason that they don't want to?
Because the guy specifically

2506
02:30:46,170 --> 02:30:51,690
said no, it's not migratory
fowl. It's as Madonna boots on

2507
02:30:51,690 --> 02:30:55,590
the boots on the ground. So this
is not so we know that there's a

2508
02:30:55,590 --> 02:30:59,220
problem. They're trying to
control the narrative and

2509
02:30:59,220 --> 02:31:01,800
they're doing a shitty job of
it. Here we go beyond

2510
02:31:01,800 --> 02:31:04,530
Unknown: animals, though. I know
a few humans have contracted

2511
02:31:04,530 --> 02:31:07,710
this flu, which has some folks
concerned about this sparking a

2512
02:31:07,710 --> 02:31:10,950
pandemic. Do we have any better
sense of the risks of people

2513
02:31:10,980 --> 02:31:16,230
Adam Curry: concerned? It's
sparking a pandemic? John? I'm

2514
02:31:16,230 --> 02:31:20,490
gonna put it in the book, man.
I'd give us two more months

2515
02:31:20,490 --> 02:31:24,240
before we have real pandemic
noise coming from the Biden

2516
02:31:24,240 --> 02:31:27,780
administration. They're doing
it. They are doing it. I don't

2517
02:31:27,780 --> 02:31:30,210
know if it'll work. It's gonna
be interesting to see all the

2518
02:31:30,210 --> 02:31:33,780
people who say, I'm not putting
a mask on. I'm not gonna do

2519
02:31:33,780 --> 02:31:37,620
that. No way. Not gonna happen.
Well, hold

2520
02:31:37,620 --> 02:31:41,460
John C Dvorak: on before you
continue. I can go to a grocery

2521
02:31:41,460 --> 02:31:45,270
store today and see people with
masks. And a third of the people

2522
02:31:45,270 --> 02:31:47,850
will be wearing a mask I know
but if it becomes,

2523
02:31:47,880 --> 02:31:53,910
Adam Curry: quote unquote,
mandatory Yeah, I'm not I can

2524
02:31:53,910 --> 02:31:55,770
tell you right now. I'll go to
jail.

2525
02:31:57,060 --> 02:32:00,240
John C Dvorak: Coded jail. in
Fredericksburg. There's nothing

2526
02:32:00,240 --> 02:32:03,180
to worry about. Good policing,
by the way during the last

2527
02:32:03,180 --> 02:32:07,440
pandemic was nil. Except for you
know, it was so much easier

2528
02:32:07,440 --> 02:32:11,130
pressure say put a mask on it
was self policing. Yeah. Yeah,

2529
02:32:11,130 --> 02:32:13,980
it was self policing. We could
go out you're locked down

2530
02:32:13,980 --> 02:32:17,190
bullcrap. Just go out. Nobody
cared.

2531
02:32:17,430 --> 02:32:22,290
Adam Curry: We knew. We need to
get out in front of this. We

2532
02:32:22,290 --> 02:32:25,710
need no agenda shop was some T
shirts and hoodies and stuff

2533
02:32:25,920 --> 02:32:29,730
that have a good slogan like,
bird flu question mark. Yo,

2534
02:32:29,730 --> 02:32:31,650
Mama. Something like that we
need

2535
02:32:31,650 --> 02:32:34,020
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah,
that'll do it. Yeah, jingle

2536
02:32:34,020 --> 02:32:35,220
maker Adam curry.

2537
02:32:35,910 --> 02:32:38,370
Adam Curry: I'm just I'm just
I'm just giving an alley up. I'm

2538
02:32:38,370 --> 02:32:40,680
just trying to get lay it up
here. Someone else has got to

2539
02:32:40,710 --> 02:32:42,870
put it in. Okay.

2540
02:32:43,680 --> 02:32:45,750
Unknown: Do we have any better
sense of the risks of people

2541
02:32:45,750 --> 02:32:46,080
here?

2542
02:32:46,440 --> 02:32:49,470
So right now federal health
officials say the risk to the

2543
02:32:49,470 --> 02:32:53,160
general public remains low. If
you work with dairy cattle,

2544
02:32:53,190 --> 02:32:56,280
obviously, the risk level is
higher. There's still only been

2545
02:32:56,280 --> 02:32:59,490
three human cases reported the
most recent one was in a

2546
02:32:59,490 --> 02:33:02,820
Michigan dairy worker. That was
more concerning because the

2547
02:33:02,820 --> 02:33:06,180
person actually had respiratory
symptoms. I asked the Centers

2548
02:33:06,180 --> 02:33:08,580
for Disease Control and
Prevention this week, whether

2549
02:33:08,580 --> 02:33:11,700
there were any alarming
mutations in the sample arm

2550
02:33:11,700 --> 02:33:15,090
virus they collected from that
person. Here's what Dr. Nirav

2551
02:33:15,090 --> 02:33:16,530
Shah with the CDC told me

2552
02:33:16,560 --> 02:33:21,480
Adam Curry: just listen to this
Scripps alarming respiratory

2553
02:33:21,480 --> 02:33:25,470
symptoms what I mean, I have
respiratory symptoms. What are

2554
02:33:25,470 --> 02:33:27,060
you talking about NPR,

2555
02:33:27,090 --> 02:33:31,020
Unknown: we didn't see any signs
in the virus's fingerprints that

2556
02:33:31,020 --> 02:33:35,340
suggests that you're able to
transmit between humans or from

2557
02:33:35,340 --> 02:33:36,810
animals to humans. So

2558
02:33:36,810 --> 02:33:40,740
clearly that is reassuring but
without a doubt there are people

2559
02:33:40,740 --> 02:33:43,470
in public health who are deeply
worried about the situation

2560
02:33:43,470 --> 02:33:45,870
John C Dvorak: Okay, stop and
stop the clip. This is the

2561
02:33:46,200 --> 02:33:50,430
classic type of propaganda you
get from these guys. Yeah. The

2562
02:33:50,430 --> 02:33:55,500
clip said specifically there's
nothing's going on. We can't

2563
02:33:55,500 --> 02:33:59,370
find any evidence of anything
and then you got cut back to the

2564
02:33:59,370 --> 02:34:03,540
guy says but other people and
without the attribution are

2565
02:34:03,540 --> 02:34:06,960
concerned No, I didn't say go
back right back into the

2566
02:34:06,960 --> 02:34:09,300
narrative that you just
described as a script.

2567
02:34:10,020 --> 02:34:15,120
Believable how bad this is here,
but this is making me take your

2568
02:34:15,120 --> 02:34:17,610
site on this thing to some
extent even though I still think

2569
02:34:17,610 --> 02:34:19,230
it's never gonna go anywhere
because these guys are

2570
02:34:19,230 --> 02:34:21,570
incompetent boneheads, but okay.

2571
02:34:22,650 --> 02:34:24,990
Adam Curry: We just, we just
need some charts. We need some

2572
02:34:24,990 --> 02:34:28,740
numbers. We need some. We need
trucks, refrigerators, Johns

2573
02:34:28,740 --> 02:34:31,920
Hopkins, Johns Hopkins in
refrigeration trucks, then we're

2574
02:34:31,920 --> 02:34:32,940
good to go. Clearly

2575
02:34:32,940 --> 02:34:36,420
Unknown: that is reassuring. But
without a doubt there are people

2576
02:34:36,420 --> 02:34:39,840
in public health who are deeply
worried about the situation. The

2577
02:34:39,840 --> 02:34:43,080
fact that we don't have more
visibility around this outbreak.

2578
02:34:43,140 --> 02:34:45,180
Are there unknowns that have
public health officials

2579
02:34:45,180 --> 02:34:48,510
concerned? There's a lot of for
starters, exactly how many

2580
02:34:48,510 --> 02:34:51,810
cattle are infected right now.
We don't know. I asked the CDC

2581
02:34:51,810 --> 02:34:55,260
if we even have some sense of
the trajectory here. Have we hit

2582
02:34:55,260 --> 02:34:58,830
the peak of cases in cattle? The
answer was also we don't know.

2583
02:34:58,860 --> 02:35:02,130
Andrew Peck OSH roundup another
big concern when I spoke to him,

2584
02:35:02,310 --> 02:35:04,890
which is better surveillance on
the human side of things.

2585
02:35:04,920 --> 02:35:08,400
pickoff is a virologist at Johns
Hopkins Bloomberg public.

2586
02:35:09,990 --> 02:35:13,050
Adam Curry: Johns Hopkins coming
in coming in through the side

2587
02:35:13,050 --> 02:35:17,250
door? Well, yes, we need. So
first of all, we know from our

2588
02:35:17,250 --> 02:35:21,960
producer who repented on this
very show, what a what a money

2589
02:35:21,960 --> 02:35:27,120
making scam the testing is. So
we clearly need to get into the

2590
02:35:27,120 --> 02:35:34,590
testing game. Can you say ESXi X
IT strategy? I mean, $750

2591
02:35:34,590 --> 02:35:37,950
million, just for a half of the
California the Los Angeles

2592
02:35:38,040 --> 02:35:43,110
School District. So the test so
there's a lot of money that's

2593
02:35:43,110 --> 02:35:46,080
going to be pushing this.
Everybody sees it. Everybody

2594
02:35:46,080 --> 02:35:48,090
knows it. Everybody wants it.

2595
02:35:48,300 --> 02:35:50,130
John C Dvorak: Boom, the
blueprints out there. It's we

2596
02:35:50,130 --> 02:35:54,660
already saw that it's effective
and safe for making money. It's

2597
02:35:54,660 --> 02:35:58,050
safe way to make money and it's
effective. I just haven't

2598
02:35:58,050 --> 02:35:58,560
effective.

2599
02:35:58,590 --> 02:36:00,840
Adam Curry: I just want to get
in on it. I mean, can we do

2600
02:36:02,460 --> 02:36:04,650
John C Dvorak: this? We had to
think about it. There is a way

2601
02:36:04,650 --> 02:36:06,000
we had we should be able to get

2602
02:36:06,420 --> 02:36:10,440
Adam Curry: so. So the elements
that are missing here. One,

2603
02:36:10,470 --> 02:36:15,990
Johns Hopkins in the side door.
So that's a start. We need Ted

2604
02:36:15,990 --> 02:36:19,410
Ross. Ted Ross needs to start
talking. That's a given I think

2605
02:36:19,410 --> 02:36:19,650
okay.

2606
02:36:20,430 --> 02:36:22,890
John C Dvorak: Ted draws video
that's floating around tick tock

2607
02:36:23,190 --> 02:36:23,850
waves

2608
02:36:23,850 --> 02:36:28,470
Adam Curry: dancing gay. Yeah,
yeah. Yeah. And, and the one

2609
02:36:28,470 --> 02:36:33,360
with the Zelinsky and McCrone.
That's not those guys. That's

2610
02:36:33,360 --> 02:36:36,600
the real deal. And we need Marco
Rubio in there, more of that.

2611
02:36:37,560 --> 02:36:42,870
Ai. Now, so we've got we got to
have Tadros that's that's easy,

2612
02:36:42,870 --> 02:36:44,670
because he'll he'll just do
whatever they tell him. That's

2613
02:36:44,700 --> 02:36:48,090
he's probably already talking. I
think Bill Gates is going to

2614
02:36:48,090 --> 02:36:51,930
back off a little bit, but GAVI
will be in there. We need a

2615
02:36:51,930 --> 02:36:53,160
Fauci figure.

2616
02:36:54,600 --> 02:36:56,520
Unknown: That and by the way,

2617
02:36:57,660 --> 02:36:58,410
John C Dvorak: Hotep

2618
02:37:01,440 --> 02:37:05,250
Adam Curry: Peter Hotez? Yeah,
he's not dynamic. We need

2619
02:37:05,250 --> 02:37:09,840
someone who can do the White
House briefings. Maybe Redfield

2620
02:37:10,050 --> 02:37:13,500
maybe Redfield is vying for the
spot. Maybe that's why he's out

2621
02:37:13,500 --> 02:37:16,470
there written and Redfield will
be good enough, you know, former

2622
02:37:16,470 --> 02:37:17,130
CIA, he's

2623
02:37:17,130 --> 02:37:20,580
John C Dvorak: an old man, and I
think you need an older guy

2624
02:37:20,580 --> 02:37:21,540
sounds like it?

2625
02:37:21,570 --> 02:37:25,740
Adam Curry: No, no, he's, he's
probably my age. Don't say don't

2626
02:37:25,740 --> 02:37:26,370
say it's

2627
02:37:27,420 --> 02:37:29,070
Unknown: too late. That's really

2628
02:37:29,070 --> 02:37:32,490
the critical thing that we're
not worried about is, if this

2629
02:37:32,490 --> 02:37:36,840
virus gets into humans, then the
virus can adapt to humans

2630
02:37:36,840 --> 02:37:39,990
directly. This has been going on
long enough so that there should

2631
02:37:39,990 --> 02:37:43,590
be antibody signatures in the
blood of people who have gotten

2632
02:37:43,590 --> 02:37:48,150
exposed. And that would really
give us a sense of how much low

2633
02:37:48,150 --> 02:37:51,150
level exposure perhaps mild
disease has been in this

2634
02:37:51,150 --> 02:37:52,110
population.

2635
02:37:52,170 --> 02:37:55,470
So basically figuring out how
many cases we might have missed

2636
02:37:55,470 --> 02:37:58,860
by looking for evidence of a
past infection that can help us

2637
02:37:58,860 --> 02:38:02,370
gauge the overall risk to
humans. Picard says, it still

2638
02:38:02,370 --> 02:38:05,370
seems that within a herd the
virus is primarily spreading in

2639
02:38:05,370 --> 02:38:09,120
the process of milking. It could
be the virus just keeps doing

2640
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:12,300
that and doesn't end up adapting
to spread from human to human.

2641
02:38:12,600 --> 02:38:16,080
If we can keep it from infecting
other people. But that's

2642
02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:18,840
optimistic and not something we
can bank on

2643
02:38:18,960 --> 02:38:22,200
that NPR health correspondent
will stone Thanks. Well, thanks.

2644
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:22,380
Well,

2645
02:38:22,410 --> 02:38:28,530
Adam Curry: okay, so how about
the admiral? The admiral, the

2646
02:38:28,530 --> 02:38:35,250
one on the dress? Rachel Levine.
Yes. Admiral Levine this

2647
02:38:35,250 --> 02:38:36,120
possibility

2648
02:38:36,150 --> 02:38:40,140
John C Dvorak: Yeah, now you
just being silly. No, no, not

2649
02:38:40,140 --> 02:38:42,810
being silly. Who's gonna take
her seriously?

2650
02:38:43,500 --> 02:38:45,780
Adam Curry: two humps?
Apparently the entire government

2651
02:38:45,780 --> 02:38:49,770
does. No one sits and says Yo,
dude, stop

2652
02:38:49,770 --> 02:38:51,600
John C Dvorak: it. Do it in a
dress the way you always

2653
02:38:51,600 --> 02:38:53,910
describe it. No one says Hey,
Rachel.

2654
02:38:53,910 --> 02:38:57,570
Adam Curry: Dude, stop it no one
says that in government now they

2655
02:38:57,570 --> 02:38:59,820
give him awards. He's a metal

2656
02:39:01,230 --> 02:39:05,940
John C Dvorak: Yeah, when we're
all he's got a lot of metal get

2657
02:39:05,940 --> 02:39:06,540
his metal

2658
02:39:06,690 --> 02:39:10,800
Adam Curry: in his case is
called fruit salad. John. Hey,

2659
02:39:10,800 --> 02:39:17,610
oh, a Oh, all right. Now let's
go to the CIA broadcasting

2660
02:39:17,610 --> 02:39:21,510
systems now. You know, it's
getting serious CBS and it's

2661
02:39:21,510 --> 02:39:26,640
amazing because I believe Dr.
Celine Gruner. Gout Gunder

2662
02:39:26,670 --> 02:39:30,870
Gunder gone gounder I believe
she's the one whose husband died

2663
02:39:31,710 --> 02:39:34,500
while reporting on the World
Cup.

2664
02:39:36,810 --> 02:39:38,850
John C Dvorak: I think Oh,
really? That's the I mean, I

2665
02:39:38,850 --> 02:39:42,960
know the guy who just some guy
died suddenly died suddenly the

2666
02:39:42,960 --> 02:39:44,160
a collapse or husband?

2667
02:39:44,190 --> 02:39:47,670
Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. Heart
attack. Yes. Yes. Which I'm sure

2668
02:39:47,670 --> 02:39:51,120
was from chewing Xylitol gum or
something. We're gonna be

2669
02:39:55,020 --> 02:39:56,580
John C Dvorak: sila tall that'll
kill you.

2670
02:39:56,610 --> 02:39:58,920
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, by the
way. A lot of people sent me

2671
02:39:58,920 --> 02:40:03,000
messages the design little tall
actually did supposedly very

2672
02:40:03,000 --> 02:40:06,990
good against the weird viruses
and stuff. That's probably why

2673
02:40:06,990 --> 02:40:09,330
they want it done and out. It's
got

2674
02:40:09,330 --> 02:40:12,360
John C Dvorak: some sort of got
some sort of anti viral

2675
02:40:12,360 --> 02:40:15,930
qualities. It also prevents.
It's like it does all kinds of

2676
02:40:15,930 --> 02:40:18,510
weird thing. Strange sugar

2677
02:40:18,540 --> 02:40:22,110
Adam Curry: prevents tooth
decay. All right, yeah, let's

2678
02:40:22,110 --> 02:40:24,690
get into it. Because here we go
again. We're gonna

2679
02:40:24,690 --> 02:40:26,940
Unknown: begin this hour with
the latest on a dangerous bird

2680
02:40:26,940 --> 02:40:30,630
flu and concerns that this virus
has the potential to become Here

2681
02:40:30,630 --> 02:40:33,330
you go the P word pandemic. And

2682
02:40:33,330 --> 02:40:36,930
Adam Curry: the P word.
pandemic. Gail, you're so on

2683
02:40:36,930 --> 02:40:38,250
script girl, the P word

2684
02:40:38,250 --> 02:40:41,940
Unknown: pandemic. Yikes. Yeah,
the h five and one virus has

2685
02:40:41,940 --> 02:40:45,180
already spread to dairy cows and
a few humans. So far, there have

2686
02:40:45,180 --> 02:40:48,810
been outbreaks in livestock and
at least 12 states. Four cases

2687
02:40:48,810 --> 02:40:51,750
have been reported in humans in
threes. Two or three people were

2688
02:40:51,750 --> 02:40:55,680
exposed to infected cows and one
person to infected poultry. CBS

2689
02:40:55,680 --> 02:40:58,680
News Medical contributor Dr.
Celine gounder is here.

2690
02:40:58,800 --> 02:41:01,620
Hopefully she's gonna make us
feel better sort this out phase

2691
02:41:01,620 --> 02:41:05,370
Dr. sullied. I don't want to
feel here we go again. But I

2692
02:41:05,370 --> 02:41:07,650
remember when he first heard
about COVID. I'm not comparing

2693
02:41:07,650 --> 02:41:10,410
them. It's like if you weren't
in China and been to China,

2694
02:41:10,410 --> 02:41:13,290
don't worry about it. Bird flu,
there was just one case, don't

2695
02:41:13,290 --> 02:41:16,290
worry about it. Nothing to see
here. And now the numbers seem

2696
02:41:16,290 --> 02:41:18,930
to be climbing up. At what point
do we start worrying?

2697
02:41:19,080 --> 02:41:23,070
Adam Curry: Oh, we're gonna go
from status concern to status

2698
02:41:23,070 --> 02:41:23,880
worrying?

2699
02:41:24,420 --> 02:41:27,960
Unknown: What really concerns us
is how do you develop a pandemic

2700
02:41:27,960 --> 02:41:31,980
flu, it's where you have in the
lab where it always happens. Two

2701
02:41:31,980 --> 02:41:34,950
different strains of the virus.
So a bird flu and a human flu

2702
02:41:34,950 --> 02:41:38,520
mixing, sort of swapping body
parts kind of like Frankenstein,

2703
02:41:38,550 --> 02:41:40,260
it's when you get the Hold on a
second.

2704
02:41:41,700 --> 02:41:44,130
Adam Curry: This is not I was
not aware of this process.

2705
02:41:44,820 --> 02:41:49,770
Franken flu. So we just mix up
some bird places to

2706
02:41:49,770 --> 02:41:52,110
John C Dvorak: thesis about
getting two things at once or

2707
02:41:52,110 --> 02:41:56,490
having or being faxed and then
getting it and then mutase this

2708
02:41:56,490 --> 02:42:01,680
is a this is a I think a lot of
people would call it crackpot

2709
02:42:01,710 --> 02:42:02,430
theory. But

2710
02:42:02,430 --> 02:42:05,310
Adam Curry: there's some this is
actual conspiracy theory because

2711
02:42:05,310 --> 02:42:05,670
most of

2712
02:42:05,670 --> 02:42:08,850
John C Dvorak: the real flu
screwball flus come from, from

2713
02:42:08,850 --> 02:42:13,830
China, where they're mixing
ducks and pigs and pangolins and

2714
02:42:13,830 --> 02:42:15,450
bats, Hangul, Enzo and

2715
02:42:16,380 --> 02:42:19,470
Adam Curry: pinion on China
again. All right. All right. So

2716
02:42:19,470 --> 02:42:21,600
but now it's mixing up body
parts. So

2717
02:42:21,600 --> 02:42:24,660
Unknown: it's where you have two
different strains of the virus,

2718
02:42:24,660 --> 02:42:28,170
a bird flu and a human flu
mixing, sort of swapping body

2719
02:42:28,170 --> 02:42:30,240
parts, kind of like
Frankenstein. It's when you get

2720
02:42:30,240 --> 02:42:31,410
those Frankenstein

2721
02:42:33,090 --> 02:42:35,460
John C Dvorak: body parts with
someone I don't remember that. I

2722
02:42:35,460 --> 02:42:38,670
Adam Curry: know. Dr.
Frankenstein went to the great

2723
02:42:39,060 --> 02:42:39,780
Frankenstein it

2724
02:42:39,780 --> 02:42:41,640
John C Dvorak: was oh, maybe
she's talking about the doctor,

2725
02:42:41,640 --> 02:42:43,290
not the name of the monster.

2726
02:42:44,640 --> 02:42:46,620
Adam Curry: Well, that's a
common mistake

2727
02:42:46,650 --> 02:42:49,110
Unknown: swapping body parts
kind of like Frankenstein. It's

2728
02:42:49,110 --> 02:42:52,440
when you get those Frankenstein
flus that you get a pandemic,

2729
02:42:52,800 --> 02:42:55,740
you have humans, the dairy farm
workers who are currently

2730
02:42:55,740 --> 02:42:56,700
getting burned. That's

2731
02:42:56,700 --> 02:42:58,590
Adam Curry: how you get a
pandemic, you mix up some body

2732
02:42:58,590 --> 02:43:02,130
parts like Frankenstein, the
Franken flu, then you got a

2733
02:43:02,130 --> 02:43:07,350
pandemic. So she's describing
the lab process here. As far as

2734
02:43:07,350 --> 02:43:10,620
I can tell, that you mix this
with that get those five

2735
02:43:10,620 --> 02:43:12,480
Frankenstein worked in a lab.
And

2736
02:43:13,680 --> 02:43:16,500
Unknown: it's when you get those
Frankenstein flus that you get a

2737
02:43:16,500 --> 02:43:20,040
pandemic, you have humans, the
dairy farm workers who are

2738
02:43:20,040 --> 02:43:23,430
currently getting bird flu, we
have regular flu season coming

2739
02:43:23,430 --> 02:43:27,000
up in a couple of months. That's
when the danger could really

2740
02:43:27,030 --> 02:43:29,460
emerge for that kind of
pandemic. But just the fact that

2741
02:43:29,460 --> 02:43:32,190
they're even using the word
pandemic at this stage. They're

2742
02:43:32,190 --> 02:43:33,600
concerned, very triggering to

2743
02:43:33,600 --> 02:43:37,290
all it is triggering, but
imagine six months before COVID.

2744
02:43:37,320 --> 02:43:42,000
If I had taken steps, then we
could have avoided all I mean,

2745
02:43:42,000 --> 02:43:43,740
that was painful for a couple of
years there,

2746
02:43:43,770 --> 02:43:47,010
Adam Curry: we need to pre
flatten the curve. I think I

2747
02:43:47,010 --> 02:43:50,730
think we need to get ahead of
this. And and we need to have

2748
02:43:50,730 --> 02:43:54,780
mailing ballots before the
election, just to make sure that

2749
02:43:54,780 --> 02:43:57,930
we don't because this is it.
This could be a variation of the

2750
02:43:57,930 --> 02:44:03,420
script. We've got to shelter in
place so that we don't spread

2751
02:44:03,420 --> 02:44:11,070
this. At the John, I just can't
help thinking but they are

2752
02:44:11,070 --> 02:44:13,620
pushing it. They're going to
trigger it. We're just missing a

2753
02:44:13,620 --> 02:44:14,730
few elements. Okay, so

2754
02:44:14,730 --> 02:44:17,940
Unknown: have you heard about
bird flu and farmers to most

2755
02:44:17,940 --> 02:44:21,780
people? Seems like they're very
isolated. Yeah. How quickly how

2756
02:44:21,780 --> 02:44:23,730
widely can this spread? Well,

2757
02:44:23,730 --> 02:44:26,880
flu is highly infectious. So if
we're dealing with a pandemic

2758
02:44:26,880 --> 02:44:30,810
flu, then it's generally spread
person to person through the

2759
02:44:30,810 --> 02:44:35,370
respiratory route. So far, what
we're seeing we think is most of

2760
02:44:35,370 --> 02:44:38,400
the transmission is occurring
through the milk through

2761
02:44:38,430 --> 02:44:41,790
equipment or you know, other
items that are contaminated with

2762
02:44:41,790 --> 02:44:46,170
milk, and then from cow to cow,
okay. But we don't have a great

2763
02:44:46,170 --> 02:44:49,650
handle on exactly how things are
being transmitted. We have some

2764
02:44:49,650 --> 02:44:52,800
theories, but without testing
enough, it's very hard to hone

2765
02:44:52,800 --> 02:44:56,160
in on this is exactly the thing.
It's very hard to

2766
02:44:56,160 --> 02:44:58,710
Adam Curry: hone it without
testing. I think that's that's

2767
02:44:58,710 --> 02:45:01,890
the next step. We're going to
take Testing, testing, testing

2768
02:45:01,890 --> 02:45:06,240
testing, we need to get ahead of
this was testing, it's a bonanza

2769
02:45:06,660 --> 02:45:09,120
out some friends of mine are in
that business. They're so smart.

2770
02:45:09,990 --> 02:45:14,280
They made so so they made out on
the testing business. They were

2771
02:45:14,280 --> 02:45:15,150
testing, they're gonna

2772
02:45:15,150 --> 02:45:16,500
John C Dvorak: make out again.
Yeah,

2773
02:45:16,530 --> 02:45:18,300
Adam Curry: I want a piece of
the action. So

2774
02:45:18,300 --> 02:45:21,630
Unknown: one of the missteps, or
the last pandemic was we perhaps

2775
02:45:21,630 --> 02:45:24,660
didn't get out in front of it
early enough. What are we doing

2776
02:45:24,660 --> 02:45:27,630
now to prepare? So this becomes
something we need to worry

2777
02:45:27,630 --> 02:45:28,530
about? Good question.

2778
02:45:29,070 --> 02:45:31,260
Good question. So how do you
incentive? Oh,

2779
02:45:31,260 --> 02:45:33,630
Adam Curry: no, that's your cue?

2780
02:45:35,130 --> 02:45:37,350
John C Dvorak: That's not a
great question.

2781
02:45:37,440 --> 02:45:39,000
Unknown: Don't need to worry
about that question.

2782
02:45:39,090 --> 02:45:41,700
It's a great question. So you
know, how do you incentivize

2783
02:45:41,700 --> 02:45:44,100
people to get tested? That's
really the such situation we're

2784
02:45:44,100 --> 02:45:46,710
in right now. So how do you
incentivize testing of cows? How

2785
02:45:46,710 --> 02:45:50,070
do you incentivize with money
testing of milk? How do you

2786
02:45:50,070 --> 02:45:54,270
incentivize testing of people
with money. So the USDA has a

2787
02:45:54,270 --> 02:45:57,510
program a compensation program
for the farmers, so that they

2788
02:45:57,510 --> 02:46:01,440
have less of a economic hit if
there are infected cows on the

2789
02:46:01,440 --> 02:46:05,970
farm? So far, that hasn't led to
a lot more testing. They only

2790
02:46:05,970 --> 02:46:09,420
are required to test if they're
moving cows over state borders,

2791
02:46:09,420 --> 02:46:11,640
so they could be moving them
within the state. There's no

2792
02:46:11,640 --> 02:46:14,640
testing requirement. In terms of
the farmworkers, a lot of them

2793
02:46:14,640 --> 02:46:18,120
are undocumented. And so they
don't want to be on any kind of

2794
02:46:18,120 --> 02:46:22,650
government roster database,
whatever. So unless you kind of

2795
02:46:22,680 --> 02:46:26,280
you address their immigration
deportation fears, they're

2796
02:46:26,280 --> 02:46:29,550
probably not going to want to
get tested. Oh,

2797
02:46:29,850 --> 02:46:32,370
Adam Curry: well, that's
interesting. Oh, that's

2798
02:46:32,370 --> 02:46:34,410
John C Dvorak: the switcheroo.
That's been what they're saying.

2799
02:46:34,410 --> 02:46:36,870
What she's saying is, you know,
because they're afraid because

2800
02:46:36,870 --> 02:46:40,590
they're on diamond. So let's
legalize all the 12 million

2801
02:46:40,590 --> 02:46:43,740
immigrants Biden let in and then
we won't have a problem that

2802
02:46:43,740 --> 02:46:45,180
stopped us in the bud. That's

2803
02:46:45,180 --> 02:46:47,640
Adam Curry: interesting. I
interrupt this flow of clips for

2804
02:46:47,640 --> 02:46:51,060
this clip from lawyer Brad
Bernstein or Stein

2805
02:46:51,090 --> 02:46:54,120
Unknown: update on Biden's new
immigration laws. CBS News is

2806
02:46:54,120 --> 02:46:57,090
reporting Biden's gonna make the
big announcement Tuesday, June

2807
02:46:57,090 --> 02:47:00,510
18, at a big White House
ceremony. And here's the

2808
02:47:00,510 --> 02:47:03,900
announcement. Anyone who's been
in the United States for more

2809
02:47:03,900 --> 02:47:07,350
than 10 years if they entered
without inspection, and are

2810
02:47:07,350 --> 02:47:12,030
married to a US citizen who will
be granted a parole in place,

2811
02:47:12,180 --> 02:47:15,660
which is a document that will
allow them to file an adjustment

2812
02:47:15,660 --> 02:47:19,500
of status application to get
their green card, their work

2813
02:47:19,500 --> 02:47:23,310
permit and Advanced Parole
travel permission. In addition,

2814
02:47:23,580 --> 02:47:28,830
CBS News is reporting that Biden
will announce waivers for people

2815
02:47:28,830 --> 02:47:33,120
who are living unlawfully in the
United States to obtain h1 B

2816
02:47:33,120 --> 02:47:37,980
visas or visas, ie visas and
other employment based non

2817
02:47:37,980 --> 02:47:39,690
immigrant work visas and we

2818
02:47:39,690 --> 02:47:41,580
Adam Curry: have to do it
because we need them to be

2819
02:47:41,580 --> 02:47:45,870
honest about their bird flu
status. Genius.

2820
02:47:47,250 --> 02:47:50,160
John C Dvorak: That is tricky.
Man y'all so they can vote.

2821
02:47:50,970 --> 02:47:56,160
Adam Curry: Of course, and and I
have it. No agenda official bird

2822
02:47:56,160 --> 02:48:01,980
flu tester, T shirts, hoodies,
caps, make it look official,

2823
02:48:02,250 --> 02:48:06,480
bird flu testing pan pre
pandemic team. Come on, people

2824
02:48:06,540 --> 02:48:07,680
work with me here. So are

2825
02:48:07,680 --> 02:48:10,950
Unknown: you feeling that if
we're not in contact with farm

2826
02:48:10,950 --> 02:48:13,920
workers, or farm animals or farm
equipment that

2827
02:48:13,950 --> 02:48:14,910
drinking raw milk

2828
02:48:15,180 --> 02:48:19,440
or drinking raw milk? That we
don't have to worry about it? Is

2829
02:48:19,440 --> 02:48:20,610
that what you're thinking or?

2830
02:48:20,640 --> 02:48:24,810
Well, in the immediate term, and
there are ongoing tests,

2831
02:48:25,020 --> 02:48:29,130
John C Dvorak: except for a
second? Yeah. So do you Has any

2832
02:48:29,130 --> 02:48:34,140
one of these journalists
actually, actually said the

2833
02:48:34,140 --> 02:48:38,370
follower asked the following
question of any of these people?

2834
02:48:39,750 --> 02:48:44,820
So how many documented cases of
somebody getting bird flu from

2835
02:48:44,820 --> 02:48:49,170
raw milk? Have you discovered or
uncovered or even suspected?

2836
02:48:50,370 --> 02:48:53,940
Adam Curry: I have not found any
evidence of this question? Which

2837
02:48:53,940 --> 02:48:57,210
by the way, might qualify as a
great question.

2838
02:48:58,470 --> 02:49:00,840
John C Dvorak: Well, it's such
an obvious question to me,

2839
02:49:00,870 --> 02:49:04,170
because you're as they keep
bringing it up. So why does one

2840
02:49:04,170 --> 02:49:07,860
of these quote unquote
journalists ask the obvious

2841
02:49:07,860 --> 02:49:08,880
question, because it's

2842
02:49:08,880 --> 02:49:11,220
Adam Curry: given it's a given?
It's just a given at this point?

2843
02:49:11,220 --> 02:49:15,990
Yeah. Now they've made it a
given. But no, given a new mini

2844
02:49:15,990 --> 02:49:19,530
series by Korean John Cena, that
script, the given could be

2845
02:49:19,530 --> 02:49:20,160
concerned that we

2846
02:49:20,160 --> 02:49:22,260
Unknown: don't have to worry
about it. Is that what you're

2847
02:49:22,260 --> 02:49:23,580
thinking or Well,

2848
02:49:23,610 --> 02:49:28,020
in the immediate term, and there
are ongoing tests of milk, for

2849
02:49:28,020 --> 02:49:31,230
example, because depending on
how much virus is in the milk

2850
02:49:31,230 --> 02:49:34,470
supply, pasteurization may
continue to be good enough. If

2851
02:49:34,470 --> 02:49:36,180
they not Whoa,

2852
02:49:36,330 --> 02:49:39,900
Adam Curry: whoa, pasteurization
may not work if there's too much

2853
02:49:39,900 --> 02:49:44,370
virus in the milk supply. This
is highly unscientific in my

2854
02:49:44,370 --> 02:49:45,600
book, pasteurization

2855
02:49:45,600 --> 02:49:48,750
John C Dvorak: make it up as you
go along people, they get to be

2856
02:49:48,750 --> 02:49:48,960
good

2857
02:49:48,960 --> 02:49:51,720
Unknown: enough, it may not. And
so there's ongoing testing to

2858
02:49:51,720 --> 02:49:54,960
make sure is that adequate, but
if you do get one of those

2859
02:49:54,960 --> 02:49:57,390
Frankenstein flus where you have
a combination of a personal and

2860
02:49:57,390 --> 02:50:01,260
a human flu, and that's so
possible because that's when all

2861
02:50:01,260 --> 02:50:02,910
of us really start to get
worried.

2862
02:50:03,150 --> 02:50:05,850
Adam Curry: get worried, GET
WORRIED another t shirt get

2863
02:50:05,850 --> 02:50:11,130
worried. I'm making I get
worried. Yeah, bird flu is a

2864
02:50:11,130 --> 02:50:15,840
good one, get worried bird flu
is here. I want to be a part of

2865
02:50:15,840 --> 02:50:19,500
the testing unit. Because then
you can just have some swabs

2866
02:50:19,500 --> 02:50:22,410
walk down the street, an
official looking shirt and say,

2867
02:50:22,410 --> 02:50:26,490
excuse me. I think you need to
be tested. You seem to have you

2868
02:50:26,490 --> 02:50:30,450
drink raw milk. Okay. You know,
even pasteurization may not

2869
02:50:30,450 --> 02:50:33,510
work. So we need to test you
it'd be $10 It's on the spot.

2870
02:50:35,490 --> 02:50:37,830
John C Dvorak: Does that include
the phrase I'd take off your

2871
02:50:37,830 --> 02:50:38,370
top?

2872
02:50:44,610 --> 02:50:49,140
Adam Curry: Who was that guy was
ugly George. When the guy in New

2873
02:50:49,140 --> 02:50:53,790
York used to walk around with us
in the days of early cable. He

2874
02:50:53,790 --> 02:50:57,570
had a whole rig like a satellite
dish on his head and a backpack

2875
02:50:58,110 --> 02:51:01,560
go up to women on the streets
and he was ugly too. He said

2876
02:51:01,560 --> 02:51:03,600
yeah, I want to do an interview
with you. You're beautiful and

2877
02:51:03,600 --> 02:51:05,730
you take them up to his
apartment or go to their

2878
02:51:05,730 --> 02:51:09,270
apartment with his his space
rig. And again to take the top

2879
02:51:09,270 --> 02:51:14,490
off. Cable cable was great back
in the days of channel deck and

2880
02:51:14,490 --> 02:51:19,020
that day, the days of channel J
in New York. So there you have

2881
02:51:19,020 --> 02:51:21,840
it be prepared because they're
going to try and pull something.

2882
02:51:22,050 --> 02:51:24,840
Just be on the lookout producers
of the no agenda show Be on the

2883
02:51:24,840 --> 02:51:28,620
lookout for Johns Hopkins
numbers. Be on the lookout for

2884
02:51:28,620 --> 02:51:32,430
refrigeration trucks. Be on the
lookout for a for a face we need

2885
02:51:32,430 --> 02:51:37,470
to face we need a new Fauci. We
need one someone who can who

2886
02:51:37,470 --> 02:51:44,040
could Corinne you know? Hey, can
we put a lab coat on? On the

2887
02:51:44,040 --> 02:51:49,470
rear admiral? What's his name?
Kirby Rachel Levine how Kirby

2888
02:51:50,580 --> 02:51:52,860
can we turn him in or be Kirby's

2889
02:51:52,860 --> 02:51:56,610
John C Dvorak: enough of a
stooge and a sellout and and a

2890
02:51:56,640 --> 02:51:59,910
kind of embarrassment to the
Navy and he's deal Yeah,

2891
02:51:59,940 --> 02:52:05,580
Adam Curry: he's DoD yeah DoD
crank up operation warp speed

2892
02:52:05,610 --> 02:52:12,180
too know I mean, we shouldn't be
we shouldn't be in the situation

2893
02:52:12,180 --> 02:52:17,880
room. We tell the guys we tell
these guys how to do it. Well,

2894
02:52:18,240 --> 02:52:20,310
John C Dvorak: they're doing it
their way.

2895
02:52:23,250 --> 02:52:26,640
Adam Curry: Well, hurry up
already. These clips are

2896
02:52:26,640 --> 02:52:29,310
annoying. We need to get there
faster.

2897
02:52:31,320 --> 02:52:33,420
John C Dvorak: What else we got
here? I got a Gaza update. Let's

2898
02:52:33,420 --> 02:52:35,640
get that out of the way. Okay.

2899
02:52:35,670 --> 02:52:36,570
Unknown: Gaza

2900
02:52:36,600 --> 02:52:40,080
update. Yes. The Israeli
military says eight soldiers

2901
02:52:40,080 --> 02:52:44,190
died in an explosion in southern
Gaza today, the second deadliest

2902
02:52:44,190 --> 02:52:47,880
attack on Israeli forces of the
war. In Gaza families are

2903
02:52:47,880 --> 02:52:51,900
preparing for a bleak eat out ha
tomorrow, one of the most

2904
02:52:51,900 --> 02:52:55,110
important festivals in the
Muslim calendar. It's usually

2905
02:52:55,110 --> 02:52:58,920
celebrated with big family meals
and gifts for children. But this

2906
02:52:58,920 --> 02:53:02,640
year, there's only war, hunger
and misery. The holiday marks

2907
02:53:02,640 --> 02:53:05,970
the end of the Hodge witch peak
today with nearly 2 million

2908
02:53:05,970 --> 02:53:09,360
Muslims gathering on a sacred
hill in Saudi Arabia for a day

2909
02:53:09,360 --> 02:53:12,810
of worship. The hill of mercy is
believed to be the site of the

2910
02:53:12,810 --> 02:53:16,950
Prophet Muhammad's final speech
known as the Farewell Sermon.

2911
02:53:19,320 --> 02:53:21,120
Adam Curry: That was more
detailed than most other

2912
02:53:21,120 --> 02:53:22,440
reports. Yeah,

2913
02:53:22,440 --> 02:53:25,140
John C Dvorak: it wasn't too bad
and then that but that's all

2914
02:53:25,140 --> 02:53:29,220
I've got. I do have some some
new segment you introduced last

2915
02:53:29,220 --> 02:53:32,730
show was kind of our anti gay
news.

2916
02:53:34,500 --> 02:53:36,960
Adam Curry: I didn't introduce
any anti gay segment.

2917
02:53:38,250 --> 02:53:40,860
John C Dvorak: Well, it was
seemed like it to me. Oh, so I

2918
02:53:40,860 --> 02:53:44,850
have this. I have this clip too.
But the U turn. Yes.

2919
02:53:45,270 --> 02:53:47,850
Adam Curry: Will play as a great
clip is a great clip LA City

2920
02:53:47,850 --> 02:53:51,150
Unknown: Council members you go
soda Martinez and Nithya ramen

2921
02:53:51,150 --> 02:53:54,060
were on hand today to help
remove the signs. They say the

2922
02:53:54,060 --> 02:53:58,320
no cruising and no U turn signs
were put up in the 1990s to

2923
02:53:58,320 --> 02:54:01,350
prevent people in the gay
community from meeting up with

2924
02:54:01,350 --> 02:54:02,700
other gay people. I

2925
02:54:02,700 --> 02:54:08,160
was also surprised that these
these U turn signs were still up

2926
02:54:08,160 --> 02:54:11,580
and at first, you know they seem
a little Oh, okay. It's just a

2927
02:54:11,580 --> 02:54:14,190
no U turn sign. But when you
learn the history of it, and you

2928
02:54:14,190 --> 02:54:18,150
realize that these were used to
profile gay people. It's so

2929
02:54:18,150 --> 02:54:20,220
important that we have these
removed the LA

2930
02:54:20,220 --> 02:54:22,830
City Council members say the
signs were put up after the gay

2931
02:54:22,830 --> 02:54:25,830
community began to grow and
because there was a gay bar in

2932
02:54:25,830 --> 02:54:26,430
that area.

2933
02:54:27,090 --> 02:54:29,520
Adam Curry: You know, I'm not
sure what this was promoting.

2934
02:54:30,330 --> 02:54:31,020
Well, I

2935
02:54:31,050 --> 02:54:33,480
John C Dvorak: whatever was
promoting I wanted to ask a

2936
02:54:33,480 --> 02:54:37,590
question of you. Okay, according
to that guy who comes on and

2937
02:54:37,590 --> 02:54:41,340
does a little color he says you
know I insurance if you look at

2938
02:54:41,340 --> 02:54:45,960
the history, the you know, you
turn sign was a way of profiling

2939
02:54:45,960 --> 02:54:46,830
gays.

2940
02:54:47,760 --> 02:54:49,260
Adam Curry: How? Oh, well.

2941
02:54:50,400 --> 02:54:52,470
John C Dvorak: I mean, because
somebody started and pointed at

2942
02:54:52,470 --> 02:54:55,860
the U turn session. Hey, we can
make a U turn. No. I mean, well,

2943
02:54:55,860 --> 02:54:59,070
how do you it says no U turn.
Did you hear you're driving

2944
02:54:59,070 --> 02:54:59,640
along

2945
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:03,900
Adam Curry: Cruz Hold on a
second. It was because of

2946
02:55:03,900 --> 02:55:07,020
cruising because there was a gay
bar in the neighborhood and they

2947
02:55:07,020 --> 02:55:09,480
didn't want people cruising.
Yeah,

2948
02:55:09,690 --> 02:55:14,850
John C Dvorak: yeah. So how does
it know you turn sign? Profile?

2949
02:55:15,000 --> 02:55:16,140
Gays? Oh, it

2950
02:55:16,140 --> 02:55:18,000
Adam Curry: doesn't profile
them. It just stops. That's what

2951
02:55:18,000 --> 02:55:21,480
he said. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah.
Okay, I understand. Here's my

2952
02:55:21,480 --> 02:55:28,740
question. Why was there a six
foot trans transvestite? What's

2953
02:55:28,740 --> 02:55:29,250
the word?

2954
02:55:34,410 --> 02:55:37,290
Unknown: What's the show? Your
boy? Yeah,

2955
02:55:37,290 --> 02:55:41,490
Adam Curry: you know, the seven
foot duty dress on your woman?

2956
02:55:41,520 --> 02:55:43,860
Yeah. I keep forgetting the name
dude

2957
02:55:43,860 --> 02:55:45,540
John C Dvorak: in a dress.
Cross.

2958
02:55:46,140 --> 02:55:48,330
Adam Curry: From the story. Our
story our

2959
02:55:50,730 --> 02:55:52,560
John C Dvorak: try drag queen
story.

2960
02:55:52,740 --> 02:55:56,520
Adam Curry: Queen. Thank you.
dreck. RuPaul thanks troll room.

2961
02:55:57,210 --> 02:56:02,400
No, yeah, now this guy would not
be on RuPaul had no panache. Why

2962
02:56:02,400 --> 02:56:03,300
was he there?

2963
02:56:05,310 --> 02:56:07,560
John C Dvorak: This color to
the? No.

2964
02:56:07,800 --> 02:56:11,460
Adam Curry: Because you had no
you had the the feminine talking

2965
02:56:11,460 --> 02:56:16,320
guy. Yeah, but then the you had
this this dude in a wig taken

2966
02:56:16,320 --> 02:56:21,150
down the U turn sign why? It was
no drag. There was no drag show

2967
02:56:21,150 --> 02:56:21,660
there.

2968
02:56:23,430 --> 02:56:26,370
John C Dvorak: I find the whole
thing to be idiotic. It's

2969
02:56:26,400 --> 02:56:29,670
Adam Curry: virtue signaling.
And But the worst thing if used

2970
02:56:29,670 --> 02:56:32,430
Do you see the video? Just get
the clip because I know I saw

2971
02:56:32,430 --> 02:56:35,580
the video. Did you see when that
guy was talking about the

2972
02:56:35,580 --> 02:56:43,200
profiling? On the banner behind
him it said baby gay. And I

2973
02:56:43,200 --> 02:56:44,370
wonder what that is?

2974
02:56:45,060 --> 02:56:48,450
John C Dvorak: Oh, that do you
ever seen baby gay? No. There's

2975
02:56:48,450 --> 02:56:54,330
a bunch of these gay couples
that have been adopted baby. And

2976
02:56:54,330 --> 02:56:57,060
they call it they usually refer
to as baby gay and they dress

2977
02:56:57,060 --> 02:56:59,910
them up in pink and they just do
all these gay things with him.

2978
02:57:00,450 --> 02:57:03,210
And it's called Baby gay. And I
think is I think there was a

2979
02:57:03,210 --> 02:57:05,160
book that was written called
Baby gay.

2980
02:57:06,030 --> 02:57:09,480
Adam Curry: Okay, well, why was
there on the banner? It's

2981
02:57:09,480 --> 02:57:09,810
because

2982
02:57:09,810 --> 02:57:11,910
John C Dvorak: they're so
they're so happy about it. This.

2983
02:57:12,660 --> 02:57:14,610
This was a promotional idea. But

2984
02:57:14,670 --> 02:57:17,730
Adam Curry: we don't have enough
information. This sign takedown

2985
02:57:17,730 --> 02:57:20,880
was some promotion of something
and it didn't work clearly.

2986
02:57:21,030 --> 02:57:24,240
Because we don't know what the
promotion was for. There was a

2987
02:57:24,240 --> 02:57:27,420
whole banner a backdrop there
was all kinds of stuff. mangry

2988
02:57:27,450 --> 02:57:30,300
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're just
shooting it. We're just

2989
02:57:30,300 --> 02:57:30,750
shooting.

2990
02:57:33,060 --> 02:57:38,010
Adam Curry: Shooting Blanks over
here. Australia is often ahead

2991
02:57:38,010 --> 02:57:42,150
of things we can take the
temperature of what's coming to

2992
02:57:42,150 --> 02:57:45,120
the rest of the world by seeing
what happens in Australia. Would

2993
02:57:45,120 --> 02:57:49,800
you agree that's a reasonably
fair statement. I think

2994
02:57:51,030 --> 02:57:53,130
John C Dvorak: I would, I'm
actually gonna argue with

2995
02:57:53,130 --> 02:57:55,620
because you're you have a point
to make. But I will say that I

2996
02:57:55,620 --> 02:57:59,610
think a lot of is just rank
experimentation to see how far

2997
02:57:59,610 --> 02:58:01,890
people can be pushed. Well,
bingo.

2998
02:58:02,010 --> 02:58:06,030
Adam Curry: You nailed it. Your
buddy from Australia, Elmer

2999
02:58:06,030 --> 02:58:11,040
Fudd. You introduce them to us.
Elmer. Yes. Elmer Fudd. Peter

3000
02:58:11,040 --> 02:58:11,520
Dunstan.

3001
02:58:11,970 --> 02:58:14,610
John C Dvorak: Premier. Well,
he's run by Minister. He's a

3002
02:58:14,610 --> 02:58:15,840
Prime Minister. Prime minister.
Yes.

3003
02:58:15,870 --> 02:58:18,180
Adam Curry: Well, I guess
there's elections coming up. And

3004
02:58:18,450 --> 02:58:24,060
he is now saying, If you elect
me, I will make a law that

3005
02:58:24,060 --> 02:58:29,790
children under 16 cannot go on
social media. This is this is

3006
02:58:29,790 --> 02:58:34,260
the trend. And of course, what
I'm looking for in this trend is

3007
02:58:34,410 --> 02:58:38,340
how do we actually police it?
Cuz you can't just trust

3008
02:58:38,340 --> 02:58:42,810
parents? That's no good. And
children belong to the state. So

3009
02:58:42,810 --> 02:58:46,350
how do they police it and the
interesting thing about this is

3010
02:58:46,350 --> 02:58:52,440
that his opposition in this
election is all for it. So

3011
02:58:53,130 --> 02:58:55,320
John C Dvorak: I know the
Australians are weird that way.

3012
02:58:55,860 --> 02:58:58,380
Somebody comes up with a
crackpot idea on the one side of

3013
02:58:58,380 --> 02:59:02,640
the aisle and the other side.
Yeah. At work, it doesn't happen

3014
02:59:02,640 --> 02:59:05,010
in this country never has here's
a super clip,

3015
02:59:05,040 --> 02:59:07,320
Unknown: both major political
parties throw their support

3016
02:59:07,320 --> 02:59:11,040
behind the idea of banning under
16 year olds from social media.

3017
02:59:11,070 --> 02:59:13,740
The coalition has been out in
the past few days, saying it

3018
02:59:13,740 --> 02:59:15,510
would do this within its first
100

3019
02:59:15,510 --> 02:59:18,660
days of a future coalition
government. Mr. Dutton is

3020
02:59:18,660 --> 02:59:21,960
promising to roll out an age
verification system across the

3021
02:59:21,960 --> 02:59:22,830
country. just

3022
02:59:22,860 --> 02:59:26,970
applaud Peter Dutton for taking
such a firm stand on this tell

3023
02:59:26,970 --> 02:59:28,560
us how your system would work?

3024
02:59:28,590 --> 02:59:30,330
Well, I think it's best to look
at it from a parent's

3025
02:59:30,330 --> 02:59:34,740
perspective. And parents want
some rules in place. And I think

3026
02:59:34,740 --> 02:59:38,400
we say to people who are really
having a tough conversation with

3027
02:59:38,400 --> 02:59:41,160
their kids at the moment that
it's going to be easier if we

3028
02:59:41,160 --> 02:59:44,460
have a law that says in the
conversation when you're talking

3029
02:59:44,460 --> 02:59:46,740
to your kids that you can't be
on these platforms until you're

3030
02:59:46,740 --> 02:59:48,030
16. That's the law.

3031
02:59:48,090 --> 02:59:52,740
I for one want to see our
children live safely. We've got

3032
02:59:52,770 --> 02:59:56,430
all kinds of rules around what
around what can be printed what

3033
02:59:56,430 --> 03:00:00,240
can be on television at certain
at certain times of the day. A

3034
03:00:00,630 --> 03:00:05,070
movie ratings. And yet social
media is a free for all.

3035
03:00:05,220 --> 03:00:07,380
Here's the Prime Minister
speaking on this issue

3036
03:00:07,380 --> 03:00:07,800
yesterday,

3037
03:00:07,800 --> 03:00:11,970
social media is having a
negative impact on young people.

3038
03:00:12,390 --> 03:00:16,920
I want people to spend more time
on the footy field or the

3039
03:00:16,920 --> 03:00:19,800
Netball court than they're
spending on their phones.

3040
03:00:20,010 --> 03:00:24,120
I just think given the exposure
that we see young kids getting

3041
03:00:24,120 --> 03:00:28,920
now online, it's just it's a
huge and confronting world out

3042
03:00:28,920 --> 03:00:29,100
there.

3043
03:00:29,130 --> 03:00:33,030
And a ban if it can be
effective, is a good way to go.

3044
03:00:33,060 --> 03:00:35,100
Because companies need to be
pressured. And if we do nothing,

3045
03:00:35,430 --> 03:00:38,250
the red lines continue to be
crossed. I couldn't agree with

3046
03:00:38,250 --> 03:00:40,170
you more, I think most people
would look at

3047
03:00:40,170 --> 03:00:42,630
sounds great. I think every
parent around the country will

3048
03:00:42,630 --> 03:00:45,960
be nodding 30 And he's young.
But you could also argue a 16 is

3049
03:00:45,960 --> 03:00:48,750
too. How do you put an age on
it? That's

3050
03:00:48,750 --> 03:00:51,660
a wonderful question. Because if
I had it my way to be Christians

3051
03:00:51,660 --> 03:00:55,650
remain over how it would be
enforced Prime Minister has been

3052
03:00:55,650 --> 03:00:59,880
pointing to work that's already
underway on age verification

3053
03:00:59,880 --> 03:01:00,600
techniques, we

3054
03:01:00,600 --> 03:01:05,580
have a huge capacity here within
our system, the technology is

3055
03:01:05,580 --> 03:01:07,710
much better than it was five
years ago. One is

3056
03:01:07,710 --> 03:01:11,730
kind of a digital token that you
would acquire by having ID that

3057
03:01:11,730 --> 03:01:14,490
would prove your birthdate that
you could then take to social

3058
03:01:14,490 --> 03:01:17,490
media platforms to prove your
age. And now there is

3059
03:01:17,700 --> 03:01:21,840
facial recognition to determine
somebody's age is appropriate.

3060
03:01:21,840 --> 03:01:22,530
But you're simply

3061
03:01:22,650 --> 03:01:25,050
looking at your phone screen or
upload a video selfie of

3062
03:01:25,050 --> 03:01:28,650
yourself and algorithm can
essentially work out how old you

3063
03:01:28,650 --> 03:01:29,280
are. Look, I

3064
03:01:29,280 --> 03:01:31,590
reckon they can do it. I reckon
they can do it in the cancer

3065
03:01:31,590 --> 03:01:33,870
because they know exactly what
we're talking about. They know

3066
03:01:33,870 --> 03:01:36,990
what products to sell to whoever
they get, they send a band all

3067
03:01:36,990 --> 03:01:40,320
sorts of information streams
they don't like so they can't

3068
03:01:40,320 --> 03:01:43,560
tell me that their technology
isn't up to doing this. I think

3069
03:01:43,560 --> 03:01:45,540
there are a number of ways in
which we do it. Is it perfect?

3070
03:01:45,540 --> 03:01:48,720
No. But is there an option to do
nothing, I just don't think that

3071
03:01:48,720 --> 03:01:51,270
is a responsible course of
action. I hope that this is an

3072
03:01:51,270 --> 03:01:54,090
issue where the Prime Minister
and I can work together. And if

3073
03:01:54,090 --> 03:01:56,760
we show that bipartisanship, I
think it sends a very clear

3074
03:01:56,760 --> 03:01:58,740
message to the companies as
well. And we're serious about

3075
03:01:58,740 --> 03:01:59,070
this.

3076
03:01:59,130 --> 03:02:01,260
Adam Curry: You're absolutely
right, Jeremy, they just push

3077
03:02:01,260 --> 03:02:04,950
crazy things. See what people
will accept. And I think this is

3078
03:02:04,950 --> 03:02:05,670
going to happen.

3079
03:02:06,510 --> 03:02:09,780
John C Dvorak: Well with Elmer
Fudd, that guy he was when he

3080
03:02:09,780 --> 03:02:14,310
first got in, he went into a big
deal made a big deal about memes

3081
03:02:14,310 --> 03:02:18,630
that involved him. Yep. And of
course, that triggered everybody

3082
03:02:18,630 --> 03:02:19,650
to do one and he

3083
03:02:19,650 --> 03:02:21,810
Adam Curry: has the CIA, CIA
lady.

3084
03:02:24,330 --> 03:02:27,600
John C Dvorak: CIA spook. Yeah.
And so the next thing you know,

3085
03:02:27,600 --> 03:02:31,020
this is this country's out of
control. It's no sweat off my

3086
03:02:31,020 --> 03:02:32,340
balls. I'm

3087
03:02:32,340 --> 03:02:35,550
Unknown: gonna show my school by
donating to no agenda. Imagine

3088
03:02:35,550 --> 03:02:38,250
all the people who could do
that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun

3089
03:02:45,840 --> 03:02:48,270
Adam Curry: Yeah, look, the
affiliates run

3090
03:02:48,270 --> 03:02:50,610
John C Dvorak: a little bit. Get
a rap to show I mean, we have a

3091
03:02:50,610 --> 03:02:52,590
lot of stuff to talk about. But
you do but we're

3092
03:02:52,590 --> 03:02:55,920
Adam Curry: wrapping it and it's
1130 here and I still have to

3093
03:02:55,920 --> 03:02:57,900
find dinner, which I'm sure will
be

3094
03:02:58,560 --> 03:03:01,380
John C Dvorak: nice. You should
get room service. Ah, room

3095
03:03:01,380 --> 03:03:06,000
Adam Curry: service. Yes, room
service. Okay. We want to thank

3096
03:03:06,000 --> 03:03:09,420
the rest of our producers down
to the 50 who never mentioned

3097
03:03:09,420 --> 03:03:12,240
any names for reasons of
anonymity under $50. And of

3098
03:03:12,240 --> 03:03:16,230
course we also have under 50 Our
sustaining donors we appreciate

3099
03:03:16,230 --> 03:03:20,610
you so much you can make up your
own number your own we'd like it

3100
03:03:20,610 --> 03:03:24,930
if you set a recurring payment
for show per week, per month per

3101
03:03:24,930 --> 03:03:28,680
year. Whatever number works for
you. Put it down send it to us.

3102
03:03:28,710 --> 03:03:31,080
That is how value for value
works. John, take us through to

3103
03:03:31,080 --> 03:03:31,530
50

3104
03:03:32,550 --> 03:03:35,490
John C Dvorak: Well, okay, now
we have a lot of this is going

3105
03:03:35,490 --> 03:03:37,620
to be a little longer than usual
because we have to thank the

3106
03:03:37,620 --> 03:03:41,760
dads Yes. Did Father's Day show.
So starting with Kenneth Kenneth

3107
03:03:41,880 --> 03:03:48,540
lusty and Tomahawk, Wisconsin
$130.03. This is a Father's Day

3108
03:03:48,540 --> 03:03:51,480
switcheroo for my old man the
anonymous spirit of the North

3109
03:03:51,480 --> 03:03:59,490
Woods. love you dad. Rod Roger
roundy our old buddy there in DC

3110
03:03:59,490 --> 03:04:04,410
area in Alexandria, Virginia to
be exact he me with $105.35

3111
03:04:06,810 --> 03:04:10,830
Watch my new YouTube comedy
channel. Ask America with Edgar.

3112
03:04:11,490 --> 03:04:11,700
Oh,

3113
03:04:11,700 --> 03:04:14,520
Adam Curry: that's actually
pretty funny. Yes, yeah. It's

3114
03:04:14,520 --> 03:04:20,820
kind of like it's a different
take on the talking dog was it?

3115
03:04:21,120 --> 03:04:22,080
Tune says now who

3116
03:04:22,080 --> 03:04:24,840
John C Dvorak: was a cat the cat
the corner? The cat death cat

3117
03:04:24,840 --> 03:04:27,930
Adam Curry: in the corner? What?
No, also the dog the dog that

3118
03:04:27,930 --> 03:04:31,290
would be smoking the cigar? Oh,
yeah,

3119
03:04:31,290 --> 03:04:34,140
John C Dvorak: the insult. Comic
dog. Yeah, there you go. It's

3120
03:04:34,140 --> 03:04:36,300
triumph. Triumph.

3121
03:04:36,300 --> 03:04:37,830
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes, that's it.

3122
03:04:38,490 --> 03:04:40,050
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's
interesting. Okay, well, let's

3123
03:04:40,050 --> 03:04:47,310
head to youtube.com/slash are
slash at sign Ask America with

3124
03:04:47,310 --> 03:04:55,410
Edgar Lucas Williams in Roswell,
New Mexico. $100. Evgeny dama

3125
03:04:55,410 --> 03:05:00,000
Skene dama skini may be in
Boston, Massachusetts. $91 for

3126
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:06,510
My dad, Kevin McLaughlin areas
Concord North Carolina 808.

3127
03:05:07,380 --> 03:05:14,130
Boobs for Dad, sir Doherty and
Steven city Virginia 7777. Happy

3128
03:05:14,130 --> 03:05:21,090
Father's Day Sir Not Jake. Sir
Stuart 6493 to my dad Ken

3129
03:05:21,090 --> 03:05:25,200
Walton. 23 years ago. You died
unfortunately on Father's Day.

3130
03:05:25,230 --> 03:05:29,970
Yikes. Playing golf owe me
something. Hey 493

3131
03:05:30,450 --> 03:05:31,530
Adam Curry: At least one way to
go.

3132
03:05:33,300 --> 03:05:37,950
John C Dvorak: Like golf. Oh,
get the whole No. Corey sent

3133
03:05:37,980 --> 03:05:43,710
centaine De Santis and Ted
Santella he has to be 6493 these

3134
03:05:43,710 --> 03:05:51,420
are all Father's Day donations.
Marvin Santa I sent Santa is

3135
03:05:51,420 --> 03:05:56,310
Santa i Okay. Thank you dad for
not only all that your guidance

3136
03:05:56,400 --> 03:06:00,240
through this thing we call life
but also introducing me to the

3137
03:06:00,240 --> 03:06:10,800
best podcast, dad. We will man
Alina. Var vari at 6493 This is

3138
03:06:10,800 --> 03:06:15,510
a call out to Sebastian. That
ever being a loving, hardworking

3139
03:06:15,510 --> 03:06:21,420
and playful father? Dame Jamie
6493 Happy Father's Day to Sir

3140
03:06:21,420 --> 03:06:27,660
Mad Hatter. Ah, yes. Alexandra
Miller 6160 which is the

3141
03:06:27,660 --> 03:06:33,030
Father's Day donations. To be
exact. Happy Father's Day Brad.

3142
03:06:33,630 --> 03:06:36,780
Raising boys who have the
courage to question their wealth

3143
03:06:36,780 --> 03:06:40,440
brainwashed teachers has been
the greatest adventure I've ever

3144
03:06:40,440 --> 03:06:42,000
saw coming. Yes.

3145
03:06:42,780 --> 03:06:43,500
Unknown: Nice.

3146
03:06:45,150 --> 03:06:49,590
John C Dvorak: Well, Scott Riley
6160s Happy Father's Day to

3147
03:06:49,590 --> 03:06:55,800
Baron Stephen of the Bighorn
basin. Holly McClure or 6162

3148
03:06:55,830 --> 03:07:00,060
Mark McLaury Happy Father's Day
to my handsome hub of 20 years

3149
03:07:00,270 --> 03:07:05,370
who has been an incredible dad
to our beautiful children. Kyle

3150
03:07:05,370 --> 03:07:10,980
three $60 Sir Chris Abraham in
Arlington, Virginia nella

3151
03:07:11,040 --> 03:07:15,720
Arlington dollar 5893 Happy
Father's Day, my beloved 58 year

3152
03:07:15,720 --> 03:07:20,490
old dad Bob died of a heart
attack during sex while covered

3153
03:07:20,490 --> 03:07:26,940
in a whipped cream on top of his
mistress in 1995. Well, I guess

3154
03:07:26,940 --> 03:07:27,720
it's another way he

3155
03:07:28,380 --> 03:07:33,540
Adam Curry: was winning. Is that
really true, Sir Chris? That's

3156
03:07:33,540 --> 03:07:33,990
funny.

3157
03:07:35,280 --> 03:07:36,450
John C Dvorak: Anything's
possible.

3158
03:07:38,430 --> 03:07:41,100
Adam Curry: But who discovered
the body is the question? Oh,

3159
03:07:41,160 --> 03:07:44,280
right in the sand. Yes. Right.
That's right. Died. Is that what

3160
03:07:44,280 --> 03:07:45,180
a way to go?

3161
03:07:46,320 --> 03:07:49,320
John C Dvorak: James Edmondson
in South Plainfield, New Jersey?

3162
03:07:50,970 --> 03:07:56,940
5510. Sir, another Sir Chris.
saksi second, what is this?

3163
03:07:56,940 --> 03:08:00,570
Socci Sashi Texas. Did you find?

3164
03:08:01,410 --> 03:08:03,690
Adam Curry: I'm not familiar. I
don't

3165
03:08:03,690 --> 03:08:07,050
John C Dvorak: know. kenning
Aurora Russell in Winchester,

3166
03:08:07,050 --> 03:08:11,370
New Hampshire. 5049. Now we get
to the $50 donors. Just name and

3167
03:08:11,370 --> 03:08:14,310
location lessers a call out
there's only one I can see.

3168
03:08:15,030 --> 03:08:20,760
Starting with a Diane shawanna
Back in johnsburg. Illinois,

3169
03:08:20,790 --> 03:08:25,080
Christian Freeman and San Marcos
Texas. Kevin dills in

3170
03:08:25,080 --> 03:08:27,720
Huntersville. North Carolina
Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park

3171
03:08:27,720 --> 03:08:32,610
Ella, Alberta and this is Sir
Chris. Michael Thompson a new

3172
03:08:32,610 --> 03:08:37,050
brown fells Texas. Phillip blue
in Louisville Kentucky Michael

3173
03:08:37,050 --> 03:08:42,660
Pirot in Salem Oregon. Easy
landscapes in North Stonington

3174
03:08:42,660 --> 03:08:46,770
Connecticut and by the way Bad
Idea supply I got called out by

3175
03:08:46,770 --> 03:08:52,290
my wife oh she says bad idea
supply you look it up just a bad

3176
03:08:52,290 --> 03:08:58,530
idea supply where are we own
their gear? What they make

3177
03:08:58,530 --> 03:09:07,440
incinerators and and and heavy
metal backyard fireplaces

3178
03:09:08,220 --> 03:09:10,530
Adam Curry: bodies is that what
you do with the bodies with

3179
03:09:10,830 --> 03:09:11,250
looks

3180
03:09:11,250 --> 03:09:13,290
John C Dvorak: like some of
their stuff? They have some

3181
03:09:13,290 --> 03:09:18,480
tremendous the attractive is not
cheap, but tremendously

3182
03:09:18,480 --> 03:09:21,960
attractive. What I'd call
glamorize burn barrels.

3183
03:09:22,710 --> 03:09:25,650
Adam Curry: Bad idea supply.
Where are they? Oh, they're

3184
03:09:25,740 --> 03:09:26,550
John C Dvorak: an Item No. I

3185
03:09:26,550 --> 03:09:28,590
Adam Curry: mean, where are they
on the donation list?

3186
03:09:28,800 --> 03:09:30,510
John C Dvorak: They're not on
today's that just easy

3187
03:09:30,510 --> 03:09:34,650
landscapes reminded me of that
of that call out I got Yeah,

3188
03:09:34,650 --> 03:09:37,200
where are they didn't they think
they got sick and not getting

3189
03:09:37,230 --> 03:09:41,160
their promotion? Brian wardens
up next season coming Georgia.

3190
03:09:41,160 --> 03:09:47,490
He came in with a 50 and he says
it was overboard. jobs coming

3191
03:09:47,490 --> 03:09:50,490
for his wife. He wants your
dream job. where's the where's

3192
03:09:50,490 --> 03:09:52,080
the call it the dad? I don't see
it.

3193
03:09:52,110 --> 03:09:55,830
Adam Curry: No. Well, no, he
says she got a dream job. Dream

3194
03:09:55,830 --> 03:09:59,190
job. The day after the show. My
dad suddenly died from the flu.

3195
03:09:59,220 --> 03:10:04,020
He says Can Capital the flu Yeah
Then he turned 50 on the same

3196
03:10:04,020 --> 03:10:06,990
weekend and so we need to jobs
calm we'll do that the end for

3197
03:10:06,990 --> 03:10:07,410
you brother

3198
03:10:08,730 --> 03:10:11,910
John C Dvorak: Brian Warden
incoming Georgia 50 Baroness

3199
03:10:11,910 --> 03:10:16,290
night a Baroness Dame night to
be specific in Edmonds

3200
03:10:16,290 --> 03:10:20,700
Washington sir spot the mighty
in Marietta Georgia, Leanne

3201
03:10:20,700 --> 03:10:23,610
Shipley and Covington,
Washington and last on our list

3202
03:10:23,610 --> 03:10:28,380
is Sir Jerry wing and Roth and
Saugus, California these people

3203
03:10:28,380 --> 03:10:34,740
all are to be thanked for
helping produce show 1669 Yes

3204
03:10:34,740 --> 03:10:37,920
Adam Curry: and I think it was
actually more dad donations than

3205
03:10:37,920 --> 03:10:40,530
I thought more dad messages and
here's a

3206
03:10:40,530 --> 03:10:42,990
John C Dvorak: couple of down
further on the list or is for

3207
03:10:42,990 --> 03:10:49,350
David Martin's best dad and pops
around from Kayla, which I'm

3208
03:10:49,350 --> 03:10:52,800
sure was meant to be read. And
anything

3209
03:10:52,800 --> 03:10:55,260
Adam Curry: that's the only one
all right. Well, thank you

3210
03:10:55,260 --> 03:10:58,500
producers. Thank you producers
for your treasure. Thank you

3211
03:10:58,500 --> 03:11:00,690
executive and Associate
Executive Producers Thank you

3212
03:11:00,690 --> 03:11:03,840
meet up producers. Thank you
producers for your time and your

3213
03:11:03,840 --> 03:11:07,440
talent value for value works
keep us going for more years

3214
03:11:07,440 --> 03:11:08,130
jobs,

3215
03:11:08,310 --> 03:11:10,890
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.

3216
03:11:10,920 --> 03:11:12,330
John C Dvorak: Let's vote for
jobs.

3217
03:11:14,520 --> 03:11:18,210
Adam Curry: Karma no aduna
donations.com become a producer

3218
03:11:18,210 --> 03:11:18,810
today

3219
03:11:25,050 --> 03:11:27,480
and we start off by
congratulating Carlene

3220
03:11:27,480 --> 03:11:32,610
Dannenberg she celebrated on
June 5, wow Alves turns 38 Or

3221
03:11:32,610 --> 03:11:37,440
turn theatre so do yet tomorrow
Maggie tine door 14 Dorothy tine

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03:11:37,440 --> 03:11:40,530
door Western a smokin hot
Scandinavian husband Mark a

3223
03:11:40,530 --> 03:11:42,990
happy birthday you'll be
celebrating on the 20th and

3224
03:11:42,990 --> 03:11:46,350
Douglas Murray wishes his mom
Jerry a happy birthday we say

3225
03:11:46,350 --> 03:11:49,050
happy birthday from everybody
here the best podcast in the

3226
03:11:49,050 --> 03:11:53,730
universe change I

3227
03:11:58,950 --> 03:12:03,450
don't want to be induced one
title change today it is Dame

3228
03:12:03,450 --> 03:12:06,870
Ellen of the dream realm and
thanks for additional support

3229
03:12:07,110 --> 03:12:12,060
aggregate $1,000 She becomes a
barren Netis Welcome to your

3230
03:12:12,060 --> 03:12:15,090
appt peerage Dame Ellen Thank
you very much we have a couple

3231
03:12:15,090 --> 03:12:20,100
of nights in one day. And the
late the Dame is a layaway Dame

3232
03:12:21,180 --> 03:12:26,070
and she has a note here she is
shady lane. typed this email

3233
03:12:26,070 --> 03:12:28,710
with great excitement my most
recent subscription donation has

3234
03:12:28,710 --> 03:12:31,530
put me over the threshold for
day mode. I've been a listener

3235
03:12:31,530 --> 03:12:36,150
for over 12 years now listen up,
you can become a knight or Dame

3236
03:12:36,390 --> 03:12:39,930
12 years now and this is long
overdue. Sadly my financial

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03:12:39,930 --> 03:12:42,930
situation made it impossible for
me to come a non douchebag Dame

3238
03:12:42,930 --> 03:12:46,620
until recently I have received
to do douching but honestly, I

3239
03:12:46,620 --> 03:12:49,050
feel it could never donate
enough to make up for all these

3240
03:12:49,050 --> 03:12:52,470
years. It's value for value
works this way. Whatever is

3241
03:12:52,470 --> 03:12:56,190
worth to you is all good. We
appreciate it. So the

3242
03:12:56,190 --> 03:12:59,310
subscription will continue for
as long as my finances allow a

3243
03:12:59,310 --> 03:13:01,860
gentleman I'm sorry I couldn't
do this till now but I would

3244
03:13:01,860 --> 03:13:05,460
like you to know just how much I
appreciate the best podcast in

3245
03:13:05,460 --> 03:13:09,090
the multiverse. And the two of
you may you never find an exit

3246
03:13:09,090 --> 03:13:12,360
strategy and always no happiness
thank you for your courage. I

3247
03:13:12,360 --> 03:13:16,110
wish to be known as Dame shader
lane of the meadows there's

3248
03:13:16,110 --> 03:13:18,210
already plenty of food and
drinks at the roundtable so I

3249
03:13:18,210 --> 03:13:22,950
humbly request heavy metal music
and video games and she has a PS

3250
03:13:22,950 --> 03:13:25,380
requested job and relationships
karma with my executive producer

3251
03:13:25,380 --> 03:13:28,410
donation you gave me double up
karma and and work for the jobs

3252
03:13:28,410 --> 03:13:31,860
I received two job offers. Hey,
how about that double up two job

3253
03:13:31,860 --> 03:13:35,070
offers crossing my fingers for
the relationship karma as well.

3254
03:13:35,160 --> 03:13:37,530
Sorry for the long note is
highly unlikely you will read it

3255
03:13:37,530 --> 03:13:41,760
on the show so I got wordy. Well
that shows you doesn't it? And

3256
03:13:41,760 --> 03:13:45,600
Steve del Roscoe is a layaway
night. Adam Ajaan I'd like to

3257
03:13:45,600 --> 03:13:48,960
redeem the sustaining donations
from myself sir Dell previous

3258
03:13:48,990 --> 03:13:52,680
into the night and my father
steamed Steve del Roscoe by my

3259
03:13:52,680 --> 03:13:55,740
math and the accounting below
this pushes Steve handily over

3260
03:13:55,740 --> 03:13:58,770
the line to become a night of
the show. Please deem him sir

3261
03:13:58,770 --> 03:14:01,980
Dell the elder with a quick
modification of my own to Sir

3262
03:14:01,980 --> 03:14:04,860
Dell the younger no agenda has
been a terrific source of

3263
03:14:04,860 --> 03:14:08,220
conversation between us and this
is fitting as he was one to hit

3264
03:14:08,220 --> 03:14:11,370
me in the mouth. If you would be
so kind to call out Ben as a

3265
03:14:11,370 --> 03:14:19,530
douchebag as well joke out oops.
Where's my douchebag done, sir.

3266
03:14:19,530 --> 03:14:24,540
Delta here is a lot going on
here in the hotel room. So let's

3267
03:14:24,540 --> 03:14:27,150
bring him up here. Let's get
everybody ready. There's my

3268
03:14:27,150 --> 03:14:30,990
blade if you can bring out yours
then we go careful because the

3269
03:14:30,990 --> 03:14:36,660
dean will make it up on the
podium please. If you don't mind

3270
03:14:36,690 --> 03:14:43,530
Shana Lane, Kim interim. Douglas
Murray. Steve del Roscoe There

3271
03:14:43,530 --> 03:14:46,380
you go. We got three and one
lady McConnell Yep, you're all

3272
03:14:46,380 --> 03:14:49,350
good I'm very proud to pronounce
the king bee as the following

3273
03:14:49,350 --> 03:14:54,240
titles name shade lane of the
meadows serve Him and Sir digit

3274
03:14:54,240 --> 03:14:57,870
up of the sharp shovel along
with serve Dell the elder for

3275
03:14:57,870 --> 03:15:00,480
you. We've got hookers and blow
rent boys and shot Her name

3276
03:15:00,480 --> 03:15:03,180
heavy metal music and video
games rattlesnake and eggs with

3277
03:15:03,180 --> 03:15:06,570
Mezcal. They got diet soda and
video games just to add to it.

3278
03:15:06,570 --> 03:15:09,690
Rubenesque woman and Rosae bong
hits and bourbon sparkling cider

3279
03:15:09,690 --> 03:15:12,690
and escorts ginger ale and
gerbils. We have breast milk and

3280
03:15:12,690 --> 03:15:18,330
compliments of mutton in me. One
of our producers here came up to

3281
03:15:18,330 --> 03:15:21,480
me yesterday and said, Hey, you
go I don't have the hookers but

3282
03:15:21,480 --> 03:15:24,240
here's the blow and he gave me a
big like baggie of flour with

3283
03:15:24,240 --> 03:15:27,840
the straw was pretty funny. At
least I presume it was flour

3284
03:15:28,140 --> 03:15:33,840
because I didn't take it home
with me. Congratulations, new

3285
03:15:33,840 --> 03:15:36,420
night and a new night's and new
day and go to no agenda

3286
03:15:36,420 --> 03:15:40,470
rings.com You will find a sizing
guide there which you can use to

3287
03:15:40,770 --> 03:15:43,620
send us your proper ring size
take the time to do it. Some

3288
03:15:43,620 --> 03:15:46,110
people get over enthusiastic and
just God just give me the ring

3289
03:15:46,110 --> 03:15:48,960
no no take your time to do their
custom we make sure you have the

3290
03:15:48,960 --> 03:15:51,600
right size and it comes with wax
to seal your important

3291
03:15:51,600 --> 03:15:54,810
correspondence and of course a
certificate of authenticity you

3292
03:15:54,840 --> 03:15:58,260
all welcome to the no agenda
roundtable the knights and Dame

3293
03:15:58,260 --> 03:15:58,860
no one

3294
03:16:06,750 --> 03:16:10,500
and I can confirm once again it
is indeed like a party and

3295
03:16:10,500 --> 03:16:13,620
connection always gives you
protection. I saw it for myself

3296
03:16:13,620 --> 03:16:16,710
here at the no agenda Amsterdam
meetup. And the same goes for

3297
03:16:16,710 --> 03:16:19,050
the Kansas City meetup they have
a report for us.

3298
03:16:21,270 --> 03:16:24,780
Unknown: promo, Happy Father's
Day, no agenda nation. This is

3299
03:16:24,780 --> 03:16:27,930
their Spencer wolf of Kansas
City, inviting me to another KC

3300
03:16:27,930 --> 03:16:32,010
meet up. Join us Sunday June 23.
For another summer parse

3301
03:16:32,010 --> 03:16:35,490
barbecue. We'll be meeting up at
Wyandotte County Park in Bonner

3302
03:16:35,490 --> 03:16:39,870
Springs at 3:33pm. A few lucky
attendees will win a book by

3303
03:16:39,870 --> 03:16:43,530
Count of America's mountain in
Andruw Jones for details and

3304
03:16:43,530 --> 03:16:46,950
directions RSVP over at no
agenda meetups.com

3305
03:16:48,630 --> 03:16:51,930
Adam Curry: You have I think you
might have the bird flu you've

3306
03:16:51,930 --> 03:16:55,320
been blowing your nose
throughout the whole show. Hey,

3307
03:16:55,410 --> 03:16:57,060
no Well you're the one doing it

3308
03:16:57,060 --> 03:16:59,850
John C Dvorak: bird flu I
haven't got conjunctivitis so I

3309
03:16:59,850 --> 03:17:03,750
don't have it. So something
else. Okay, well, the infected

3310
03:17:03,750 --> 03:17:04,740
sinus it's very

3311
03:17:04,770 --> 03:17:06,840
Adam Curry: unprofessional is
what it is.

3312
03:17:06,870 --> 03:17:09,030
John C Dvorak: I wasn't able to
I was in the other room you

3313
03:17:09,030 --> 03:17:13,110
Adam Curry: have no idea how
loud that comes through. Every

3314
03:17:13,110 --> 03:17:16,380
single time you you blow your
nose at the troll room is

3315
03:17:16,410 --> 03:17:19,080
counting as they have to take a
drink. They're hammered now.

3316
03:17:21,060 --> 03:17:21,990
John C Dvorak: Twice.

3317
03:17:23,010 --> 03:17:28,140
Adam Curry: meet ups. Well today
the TMI evac zone goats munching

3318
03:17:28,140 --> 03:17:32,430
melons Meetup is underway at
Evergreen brewing in Camp Hill,

3319
03:17:32,430 --> 03:17:36,390
Pennsylvania. On Thursday the
20th Tucson summer solstice

3320
03:17:36,390 --> 03:17:41,190
soiree at 4pm at canyons crown
in Tucson, Arizona. And also on

3321
03:17:41,190 --> 03:17:43,500
Thursday, the North Georgia
monthly meet up six o'clock at

3322
03:17:43,500 --> 03:17:46,500
Cherry Street brewing in
Alpharetta, Georgia. The Denver

3323
03:17:46,500 --> 03:17:50,280
summer solstice Strawberry Moon
meet up 630 At City Park Denver

3324
03:17:50,280 --> 03:17:53,250
Museum of Nature and Science
they always seem to do it there

3325
03:17:53,250 --> 03:17:56,550
Denver Colorado and the
Charlotte's thirsty Third

3326
03:17:56,550 --> 03:17:59,550
Thursday seven o'clock at Ed's
Tavern in Charlotte North

3327
03:17:59,550 --> 03:18:03,420
Carolina. No one's ever in a
fight at a no agenda meetup

3328
03:18:03,510 --> 03:18:07,830
there's never any angry words
everyone's has a good time. It

3329
03:18:07,830 --> 03:18:11,010
doesn't matter where you come
from. what your background is,

3330
03:18:11,040 --> 03:18:15,240
it just works go to no agenda
meet ups.com find one near you

3331
03:18:15,240 --> 03:18:18,840
if you can't find one is very
easy to start one and get listed

3332
03:18:18,840 --> 03:18:21,930
yourself. No agenda meetups
where protections connection yet

3333
03:18:21,960 --> 03:18:25,980
always puts the unity in
community. Sometimes

3334
03:18:25,980 --> 03:18:34,530
Unknown: you want to go hang out
with all day. You will be

3335
03:18:34,590 --> 03:18:37,980
triggered. You will be

3336
03:18:43,050 --> 03:18:49,410
Adam Curry: is like I think I
might have a winner here. I have

3337
03:18:49,410 --> 03:18:53,700
a couple of ISOs for end of
show. Shall I go first?

3338
03:18:54,600 --> 03:18:56,100
John C Dvorak: Yes, you may as
well.

3339
03:18:56,130 --> 03:19:01,590
Unknown: Right back at your
buddy. Huh? No. Okay. Hey, stop

3340
03:19:01,590 --> 03:19:02,730
s talking this country.

3341
03:19:04,050 --> 03:19:06,900
Adam Curry: I was muddled money.
Couldn't even hear that one.

3342
03:19:06,930 --> 03:19:09,000
Yeah. I think this would be the
one

3343
03:19:09,090 --> 03:19:10,650
Unknown: hot damn I love you
guys.

3344
03:19:12,300 --> 03:19:13,770
Adam Curry: Come on. How's that?

3345
03:19:14,910 --> 03:19:17,010
John C Dvorak: Well, you
oversold it. Let's put it that

3346
03:19:17,010 --> 03:19:18,210
way. Okay. All right.

3347
03:19:18,510 --> 03:19:19,050
Adam Curry: What's your I

3348
03:19:19,050 --> 03:19:21,780
John C Dvorak: mean, bear in
mind, but I have the mindset

3349
03:19:21,780 --> 03:19:23,820
Claggett the classic. I gotta
thank you.

3350
03:19:23,880 --> 03:19:25,920
Unknown: Thank you. Yeah.

3351
03:19:26,550 --> 03:19:29,430
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Thank
you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah,

3352
03:19:29,430 --> 03:19:32,730
true. I got it true. It's true.

3353
03:19:34,320 --> 03:19:38,130
Adam Curry: I think mine is
definitely better.

3354
03:19:38,940 --> 03:19:40,710
John C Dvorak: I think that my
thank yous better than your

3355
03:19:40,770 --> 03:19:41,130
beer.

3356
03:19:41,670 --> 03:19:46,230
Adam Curry: I love you guys.
Damn, I love you guys. And it's

3357
03:19:46,230 --> 03:19:49,440
true. No, I think this hot damn,
I

3358
03:19:49,440 --> 03:19:50,130
Unknown: love you guys.

3359
03:19:50,130 --> 03:19:56,610
Adam Curry: Come on. That's a
it's a he loves who? Who, who?

3360
03:19:56,610 --> 03:19:57,480
What? Who?

3361
03:19:57,780 --> 03:20:00,690
John C Dvorak: Okay, okay, you
can have it but I'm like It's

3362
03:20:00,690 --> 03:20:03,870
under advisement under
advisement

3363
03:20:07,770 --> 03:20:09,990
Unknown: just JC

3364
03:20:13,230 --> 03:20:15,900
Adam Curry: and sometimes Adam
time for the tip of the week

3365
03:20:17,130 --> 03:20:19,650
it's getting pretty popular.
People are worried you won't be

3366
03:20:19,650 --> 03:20:21,720
able to keep up the pace but we
are very excited why

3367
03:20:21,720 --> 03:20:23,970
John C Dvorak: can keep up the
pace? That's what she said and

3368
03:20:23,970 --> 03:20:27,660
okay I got a recommended website
to go buy stuff had to compete

3369
03:20:27,660 --> 03:20:34,500
with Amazon I should have known
about this I don't understand

3370
03:20:34,500 --> 03:20:38,640
why I didn't. They have
everything you want to find a

3371
03:20:38,640 --> 03:20:42,720
shirt. Do you want underwear? Do
you want a sports car? Do you

3372
03:20:42,720 --> 03:20:44,250
want a robot lady?

3373
03:20:44,280 --> 03:20:46,830
Adam Curry: Hold on This sounds
too good to be true.

3374
03:20:47,730 --> 03:20:53,160
John C Dvorak: Ollie Express or
a li expresses it's a new Ali

3375
03:20:53,160 --> 03:20:57,180
Baba competitor to Amazon is
worldwide the EU is freaked out

3376
03:20:57,180 --> 03:21:01,200
about it. Oh, you can find
anything and some of the

3377
03:21:01,200 --> 03:21:04,560
weirdest stuff you'll ever see.
But they have everything every

3378
03:21:04,560 --> 03:21:08,550
category of every sort of thing,
including the bionic beauty

3379
03:21:08,550 --> 03:21:11,910
robot the Oriental elegant
simulation what robot she's

3380
03:21:11,910 --> 03:21:14,190
$6,900 But most

3381
03:21:14,190 --> 03:21:16,830
Adam Curry: stuff is like you
priced or is it best price

3382
03:21:16,830 --> 03:21:18,780
though is the best price it's
gotta

3383
03:21:18,780 --> 03:21:22,770
John C Dvorak: be but meanwhile
shirt $6 There's this you were

3384
03:21:22,770 --> 03:21:26,730
on the front page for six bucks
for assured anything is always

3385
03:21:26,730 --> 03:21:30,240
dirt. Everything is dirt cheap,
except the bionic lady which is

3386
03:21:30,240 --> 03:21:34,890
probably still inexpensive. But
Ollie express it free shipping

3387
03:21:34,890 --> 03:21:36,030
on everything.

3388
03:21:39,780 --> 03:21:45,750
Unknown: And now John C. Dvorak
with the tip of the day. Wow.

3389
03:21:46,020 --> 03:21:50,160
Adam Curry: A li Express Ali
Express ala Express.

3390
03:21:51,090 --> 03:21:53,400
John C Dvorak: Well, that is
nuts as you'll go nuts.

3391
03:21:53,550 --> 03:21:56,580
Adam Curry: That's a great tip
of the day, John, thank you. I

3392
03:21:56,580 --> 03:22:02,940
can't wait to go nuts on
AliExpress and that wraps up

3393
03:22:03,090 --> 03:22:10,050
episode 1669 of the best podcast
in the universe. Coming up next

3394
03:22:10,080 --> 03:22:15,930
on the no agenda dot stream on
your modern podcast. Pick one up

3395
03:22:15,930 --> 03:22:20,100
at podcast apps.com Or in the
troll room troll room.io We've

3396
03:22:20,100 --> 03:22:22,380
got bowls and buds on the way

3397
03:22:24,030 --> 03:22:25,650
Unknown: a favorite on the
screen

3398
03:22:25,650 --> 03:22:28,470
Adam Curry: a lot of people come
up to me say we really liked the

3399
03:22:28,470 --> 03:22:32,190
screen stream is so good. We
love the stream so thank you

3400
03:22:32,190 --> 03:22:35,130
bemrose and cotton gin for
keeping that rolling with zeros

3401
03:22:35,130 --> 03:22:36,990
and bucketfuls of buds. That's
right

3402
03:22:37,080 --> 03:22:39,300
John C Dvorak: was that compete
with bowl after bowl?

3403
03:22:40,170 --> 03:22:43,140
Adam Curry: I not on the stream.
It doesn't. They're never on at

3404
03:22:43,140 --> 03:22:49,200
the same time. Coming to you
from the heart of the airport.

3405
03:22:49,950 --> 03:22:54,000
11 feet under sea level Schiphol
Airport, the Amsterdam the

3406
03:22:54,000 --> 03:22:56,940
Netherlands in the morning
everybody. Were here. It's

3407
03:22:56,940 --> 03:22:59,880
almost really in the morning.
I'm Adam curry

3408
03:23:00,330 --> 03:23:02,280
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I'm

3409
03:23:02,280 --> 03:23:07,140
actually 350 feet above sea
level and Johnson remember

3410
03:23:07,140 --> 03:23:09,690
Adam Curry: us at no agenda
donations.com We'll talk to you

3411
03:23:09,690 --> 03:23:13,800
on Thursday. Adios mauve mofos
who you are and such.

3412
03:23:15,480 --> 03:23:18,060
Unknown: Remember when he said
the United States can be summed

3413
03:23:18,060 --> 03:23:18,990
up in one word

3414
03:23:19,080 --> 03:23:22,500
Americans a nation that can be
defined in the Civil War as

3415
03:23:22,530 --> 03:23:26,220
totally lost see no so

3416
03:23:27,060 --> 03:23:31,740
as far as Joe Biden speaking
gaps this might beat that

3417
03:23:37,170 --> 03:23:38,670
because he knows so long as you

3418
03:23:39,780 --> 03:23:42,960
think about I thought he was
scanning 40

3419
03:23:43,500 --> 03:23:45,960
jobs without the DOP. Let's get
his word you started

3420
03:23:47,070 --> 03:23:49,830
doing Ella Fitzgerald little
scat or you put him

3421
03:23:50,970 --> 03:23:53,790
I have a question for conspiracy
theorists if Adrenochrome was

3422
03:23:53,790 --> 03:23:56,220
real. How come it ain't helping
Biden former sentence

3423
03:23:56,430 --> 03:23:57,570
foothills of the Himalayas?

3424
03:23:57,960 --> 03:23:59,820
Well he didn't take his shot
today

3425
03:24:04,140 --> 03:24:06,300
it's like having toilet paper in
your shoe and he told him no one

3426
03:24:06,300 --> 03:24:08,490
tells you not to think about it.

3427
03:24:09,330 --> 03:24:10,740
This might beat that.

3428
03:24:11,100 --> 03:24:12,120
So you know last

3429
03:24:12,960 --> 03:24:15,750
longer. What you're seeing is
instead of that

3430
03:24:16,620 --> 03:24:19,980
America is a nation defined in
the civil word.

3431
03:24:20,100 --> 03:24:21,570
Let's get to the devil orgy.

3432
03:24:21,990 --> 03:24:29,760
I got him in scatting doing Ella
Fitzgerald well scat while he

3433
03:24:29,760 --> 03:24:31,410
didn't take a shot today,

3434
03:24:31,830 --> 03:24:36,450
do you know see No, so long as
America is a nation that can be

3435
03:24:36,450 --> 03:24:38,910
defined in the Civil War? How
you put him

3436
03:24:39,930 --> 03:24:42,060
John C Dvorak: thinking of
putting up a porn site? Yeah,

3437
03:24:42,120 --> 03:24:42,540
no,

3438
03:24:42,570 --> 03:24:45,810
Adam Curry: no, yes. Yeah, no,
you know what? Yes. What

3439
03:24:45,810 --> 03:24:49,830
happened? In my head

3440
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:02,550
Unknown: Is everyone here

3441
03:25:07,890 --> 03:25:12,360
the casting is applied to every
listener and everything at bars

3442
03:25:12,360 --> 03:25:16,530
to like every viewer whatever it
is most respected and you've

3443
03:25:16,530 --> 03:25:18,810
been doing this a long time and
you're like a clean in this

3444
03:25:18,810 --> 03:25:19,200
space

3445
03:25:20,730 --> 03:25:22,020
is no joke

3446
03:25:24,870 --> 03:25:33,750
I'm thinking of putting up a
porn site it is I couldn't open

3447
03:25:35,790 --> 03:25:40,860
it just popped in there one just

3448
03:25:43,500 --> 03:25:44,730
John C Dvorak: showed up in my
head

3449
03:25:47,790 --> 03:25:54,570
Unknown: She's a queen in this
space. In this space is hard.

3450
03:25:54,750 --> 03:25:58,230
Adam Curry: It's a grind John.
We just make it look easy

3451
03:26:06,570 --> 03:26:10,320
Unknown: MoPhO boruch.org/in

3452
03:26:12,120 --> 03:26:13,620
What damn I love you guys.