1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,750 John C Dvorak: And out dressed in a chicken, Adam curry Jhansi 2 00:00:03,750 --> 00:00:06,330 Dvorak they may 5 2024 This 3 00:00:06,330 --> 00:00:08,730 Adam Curry: Year Award winning give me the assassination 4 00:00:08,730 --> 00:00:10,710 episode 1657 5 00:00:10,860 --> 00:00:14,310 Unknown: This is no agenda enjoying 6 00:00:14,310 --> 00:00:16,860 Adam Curry: a classic clothesline and broadcasting 7 00:00:16,860 --> 00:00:19,560 live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here theories and 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,800 numbers six and the Morning everybody hurry in 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,720 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,870 saying don't shoot your dog on Josie Devorah 11 00:00:32,910 --> 00:00:35,640 Adam Curry: was didn't make it through. I had no idea. I've 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,680 been good all morning. And 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,350 John C Dvorak: then oh, yeah, now getting the histamine up and 14 00:00:40,350 --> 00:00:42,150 you're going to be coughing all show. Oh, 15 00:00:42,180 --> 00:00:46,770 Adam Curry: it was bad yesterday. Yes. It's all of a 16 00:00:46,770 --> 00:00:47,550 sudden we got 17 00:00:47,580 --> 00:00:49,410 John C Dvorak: I thought you had a heap as all over the place 18 00:00:49,410 --> 00:00:51,270 that prevent that problem. No, 19 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:53,940 Adam Curry: that would that was in the old house. Gotcha. 20 00:00:53,940 --> 00:00:56,700 John C Dvorak: Well, it looks like you need to move him over 21 00:00:56,700 --> 00:00:58,170 to the new house. Yeah. 22 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,400 Adam Curry: It's crazy. You know, we This is unheard of this 23 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,460 global warming is climate change is great, because it's been 70 24 00:01:05,460 --> 00:01:09,510 degrees for most of the week, which and but wet and raining, 25 00:01:09,510 --> 00:01:16,860 which we obviously needed to that's all good. And something 26 00:01:16,860 --> 00:01:18,360 happened and just a cycle. 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,720 John C Dvorak: Everything popped at once. Ah. And we 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,230 Adam Curry: also have this invasion of caterpillars. 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,160 John C Dvorak: The biting type No, no, no, the 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,420 Adam Curry: big thick black ones. They're just everywhere. 31 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:38,100 It's incredible. And in the end, they don't sprout. They don't 32 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:40,710 turn into butterflies. It turned into moths which is interesting 33 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:43,950 because when you have cedars spraying everywhere you think 34 00:01:43,950 --> 00:01:48,900 that that would kill off the moths. But no, yes. Yes. No, 35 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:49,800 it's not. I have a 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,320 John C Dvorak: closet that cedar line just for that purpose. 37 00:01:52,590 --> 00:01:52,920 Yeah. 38 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,900 Adam Curry: And what do you have in that closet? Your let me get 39 00:01:54,900 --> 00:01:56,160 your tuxedo collection. 40 00:01:57,690 --> 00:02:00,510 John C Dvorak: I have the tuxedo collection and other rules. 41 00:02:02,850 --> 00:02:08,670 Adam Curry: Since you brought it up. I I'm amazed by the outrage 42 00:02:08,700 --> 00:02:13,350 over Kristi Noem killing her dog cricket. 43 00:02:13,950 --> 00:02:18,750 John C Dvorak: Well, I think I got an earful from Mimi. Oh, 44 00:02:18,750 --> 00:02:22,560 really? Who owns a kennel right ad? Yeah, so she's a dog 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,790 protector of dogs. She is horrible. This woman isn't I 46 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:29,940 said everybody's missing the point about this. Everybody I 47 00:02:29,940 --> 00:02:31,080 think you probably do. Well, 48 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,270 Adam Curry: how about this? How about I play a clip and then 49 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:36,150 you'll tell us what point we're missing. And then I'll give you 50 00:02:36,330 --> 00:02:38,130 my opinion. All sides 51 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,540 Unknown: of the aisle do not agree on much right now. But may 52 00:02:42,540 --> 00:02:49,560 have been united in outrage over South Dakota's Governor Christie 53 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:56,580 knows on fashion that she shot her 14 month old puppy dog puppy 54 00:02:56,940 --> 00:03:04,920 because she couldn't change kill it. But she says it killed a 55 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:08,010 neighbor's chickens. She defended herself though she 56 00:03:08,010 --> 00:03:10,950 claimed that it was tough decisions like this. That 57 00:03:10,950 --> 00:03:15,600 happened on farms all the time. And that she followed the law 58 00:03:15,630 --> 00:03:20,340 and was being a responsible parent. dog owner and neighbor. 59 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,050 Nah. Which part was the parenting part? I'm keeping this 60 00:03:25,050 --> 00:03:30,120 to myself. I'm gonna let y'all talk. What is your opinion on 61 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,240 such things? I start with you with the baby doll 62 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:37,260 literally who's just over 14. But yeah, this is a puppy. If 63 00:03:37,260 --> 00:03:40,890 your dog is acting wrongly, it's because you were incompetent at 64 00:03:40,890 --> 00:03:45,120 training that dog and I grew up we have big dogs. Chicken and 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,750 the dog did once get a chicken. Whose fault was it? Mine for not 66 00:03:48,750 --> 00:03:51,180 having the dog somewhere where he couldn't get the chickens but 67 00:03:51,180 --> 00:03:53,820 then what do you do you train them? And by the way, if you 68 00:03:53,820 --> 00:03:56,130 have a really challenging dog, there are countless 69 00:03:56,130 --> 00:03:59,130 organizations to rehome them to somebody who loves the dog 70 00:03:59,130 --> 00:03:59,460 enough. 71 00:03:59,490 --> 00:04:01,470 Am I want justice for cricket. This is 72 00:04:01,890 --> 00:04:04,140 terrible. It's a terrible thing just 73 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,330 to name was was cricket. You know a sign of a sociopath is 74 00:04:09,330 --> 00:04:13,860 someone that kills animals. No, I'm not a clinician. 75 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:18,300 No. But she killed her. Yes, for sure. All right. All right. So 76 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,930 Adam Curry: I'd love to hear your view on this. This is an 77 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:24,300 important news breaking breaking. 78 00:04:25,650 --> 00:04:28,440 John C Dvorak: My view on this is that I'm not even sure this 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:33,930 happened. I think Christie gnome has to do something because she 80 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:37,380 does not want to be the vice presidential choice and she's at 81 00:04:37,380 --> 00:04:41,250 the top of the list this did it. This took her off the list. Oh 82 00:04:41,250 --> 00:04:44,070 good. Without having to say no. 83 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:47,250 Adam Curry: Interesting Why would she not want to further 84 00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:50,520 her career into in the Oval 85 00:04:50,730 --> 00:04:53,010 John C Dvorak: tightly named friends who said look what 86 00:04:53,010 --> 00:04:55,710 happens all these people get associated with Trump at that 87 00:04:55,710 --> 00:05:00,270 level? It's it's trouble. I mean, it may be great You know 88 00:05:00,270 --> 00:05:03,060 but then again it's you're gonna be in the middle of this and 89 00:05:03,060 --> 00:05:07,110 that no get out of this any way you can. But she didn't want to 90 00:05:07,110 --> 00:05:10,500 get out of it by saying no and then being on Trump's bad side 91 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,390 she's gonna say I killed dogs I shoot them all okay, well we 92 00:05:15,390 --> 00:05:16,110 can't pick her 93 00:05:16,140 --> 00:05:19,260 Adam Curry: oh well that's very interesting very no agenda take 94 00:05:19,260 --> 00:05:23,220 of you there i like i like this Well, I personally think that 95 00:05:23,220 --> 00:05:26,220 she should just say this was puppy health care. I mean, 96 00:05:26,220 --> 00:05:28,170 that's what she should call it because you know, I love the 97 00:05:28,170 --> 00:05:32,790 outrage over some some woman shooting her dog because 98 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:37,530 whatever but now Hey, just suck out those feeders. There's no 99 00:05:37,530 --> 00:05:44,940 problem that's healthcare please the hypocrisy is crazy that's 100 00:05:44,940 --> 00:05:49,440 crazy the hypocrisy Give me a break. Hey man that my favorite 101 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:55,710 video of this week I don't know if you saw this. Were those I 102 00:05:55,710 --> 00:05:56,130 guess? 103 00:05:57,060 --> 00:05:59,970 John C Dvorak: Oh, I already you said proceed. Okay, you it's not 104 00:05:59,970 --> 00:06:02,880 going to be what I guess. What were you going to guess? The 105 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,620 liberal filter? Have you seen that one? 106 00:06:04,650 --> 00:06:08,970 Adam Curry: No. What is the No I have not seen the live stop 107 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,980 that's a video that's how 108 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,000 John C Dvorak: does not the last person who retweeted which will 109 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,910 be the easiest to find is the lives of tick tock has it 110 00:06:17,910 --> 00:06:22,950 somewhere okay, what is hilarious? What is it? It turns 111 00:06:22,950 --> 00:06:25,590 your picture into a U turn into a liberal I have 112 00:06:25,590 --> 00:06:30,780 Adam Curry: seen this Yes. No. That's not what I was going to 113 00:06:30,780 --> 00:06:35,550 say. No, I love that that protester the you know the kid 114 00:06:35,550 --> 00:06:39,870 who has like a bike helmet on and he has a sheer hurting me. 115 00:06:40,830 --> 00:06:44,340 Well, he has he has a shield made out of half a garbage can 116 00:06:44,340 --> 00:06:47,850 and you rollin know that one? Towards the cops and the cops 117 00:06:47,850 --> 00:06:54,120 just clotheslines. Just like it's like I feel bad watching it 118 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,500 over and over and over again. But it was so funny. To so full. 119 00:06:58,500 --> 00:06:58,620 You 120 00:06:58,620 --> 00:07:01,380 John C Dvorak: know, this is from when I saw the kids with 121 00:07:01,380 --> 00:07:04,980 the half garbage can run in at the cops. It's like LARPing is 122 00:07:04,980 --> 00:07:07,710 it? What are you doing exactly what I was thinking I was just 123 00:07:07,710 --> 00:07:12,240 gonna say that it's LARPing at its highest level is amazing. 124 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,370 I'm a knight in shining armor. 125 00:07:17,730 --> 00:07:21,600 Adam Curry: I mean, the derangement of some of these 126 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,790 kids and of course they're just kids. I mean, what are you gonna 127 00:07:23,790 --> 00:07:28,260 do? They're all young people's did just that dumb sometimes. 128 00:07:28,860 --> 00:07:31,500 But the drains, sometimes they're dumb. Sometimes the 129 00:07:31,500 --> 00:07:35,820 derangement that they know that they've lost so much respect for 130 00:07:35,820 --> 00:07:38,040 law enforcement and police they don't even think it's what do 131 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,890 you think it is like a cartoon? Like this cop is not going to 132 00:07:40,890 --> 00:07:43,500 bust your head like, come on. 133 00:07:43,950 --> 00:07:47,370 John C Dvorak: It charging good cop with a garbage can shield. 134 00:07:50,490 --> 00:07:53,700 Adam Curry: A bike helmet. That was the best. So yeah, so then 135 00:07:53,730 --> 00:07:58,530 my second favorite video, who would have ever expected the 136 00:07:58,530 --> 00:08:03,630 frat boys, the frat boys to be protecting the flag? 137 00:08:04,890 --> 00:08:08,250 John C Dvorak: I mean, yeah, this new trend. I 138 00:08:08,250 --> 00:08:12,870 Adam Curry: like it. I think this is this is interesting to 139 00:08:12,870 --> 00:08:16,620 see how we have within these in these camps, and these, of 140 00:08:16,620 --> 00:08:20,010 course, are privileged boys. They're all privileged kids. 141 00:08:20,580 --> 00:08:21,660 This is Ole Miss. 142 00:08:21,690 --> 00:08:24,480 Unknown: Gov Tate. Reeves also posted a video showing counter 143 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,390 protests or singing the Star Spangled Banner in front of 144 00:08:27,420 --> 00:08:29,100 Palestinian protesters. 145 00:08:51,870 --> 00:08:55,170 surprised they weren't singing Dixie instead? Because you know 146 00:08:55,170 --> 00:08:58,200 they must be racist Governor reads the counter protests. 147 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:04,380 Adam Curry: She is unbelievable. She isn't you can't even have 148 00:09:04,380 --> 00:09:06,660 respect for the Star Spangled Banner anymore. 149 00:09:07,290 --> 00:09:12,480 John C Dvorak: Not from her. He's gotta go. Yeah. 150 00:09:13,140 --> 00:09:15,300 Adam Curry: Now well, she will eventually I mean the MO 151 00:09:15,300 --> 00:09:20,220 prophecy will come true. It'll happen and will happen they're 152 00:09:20,220 --> 00:09:22,590 all going to go all the DEI higher here you 153 00:09:22,590 --> 00:09:25,590 John C Dvorak: all stuffed up. I am funny. It's not you're going 154 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:28,980 to use you plowed through the worst case of the flu. You'd be 155 00:09:28,980 --> 00:09:30,300 on the air. You sound fine. 156 00:09:30,330 --> 00:09:33,570 Adam Curry: I'm still on the air. It's just this whenever I 157 00:09:33,780 --> 00:09:38,250 whenever I project, then it just locks up. It's funny. I'm 158 00:09:38,250 --> 00:09:40,830 locking up, man. I don't know what to say. I'm locking up. I'm 159 00:09:40,830 --> 00:09:43,530 locking up that I'm glad you think it's funny while I go 160 00:09:43,530 --> 00:09:44,010 through this. 161 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,570 John C Dvorak: I've never you witnessed this before? Yes, 162 00:09:48,570 --> 00:09:51,780 Adam Curry: yes. Yes. Um, let me say I have a stay on these 163 00:09:51,780 --> 00:09:55,320 protests because they are rather interesting. Here's something 164 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,550 that it kind of hit me this morning about the Google 165 00:09:59,550 --> 00:10:04,110 protests First, I have a feeling while you listen to this. This 166 00:10:04,110 --> 00:10:05,130 is from I don't 167 00:10:05,130 --> 00:10:07,290 John C Dvorak: use this from a while back, isn't it? There's no 168 00:10:07,290 --> 00:10:09,450 new Google protests mod 169 00:10:09,450 --> 00:10:13,470 Adam Curry: still ongoing, still ongoing. There. It's not over. 170 00:10:13,710 --> 00:10:16,080 John C Dvorak: Yes, it'll continue until the ceasefire. 171 00:10:16,980 --> 00:10:18,150 We'll get to that to the 172 00:10:18,150 --> 00:10:20,790 Unknown: rising. A recent article in the intercept reveals 173 00:10:20,790 --> 00:10:24,180 that Google and Amazon provide cloud computing support to the 174 00:10:24,180 --> 00:10:27,360 Israeli military under what is called Project Nimbus, a 175 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,280 contract worth $1.2 billion. The Intercept reviewed a 63 page 176 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:35,580 Israeli Government Procurement procurement document, which 177 00:10:35,580 --> 00:10:38,370 showed that Amazon and Google support two of the nation's 178 00:10:38,370 --> 00:10:41,670 leading weapon makers that manufacture drones, missiles, 179 00:10:41,790 --> 00:10:44,190 and other weapons used in the war against Hamas. 180 00:10:45,210 --> 00:10:50,340 John C Dvorak: Stop Stop, stop, stop. I want to take a kind of a 181 00:10:50,700 --> 00:10:55,200 look at the terminology being used here. Google's not 182 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,740 supporting them, they're supporting Google. It's the 183 00:10:58,740 --> 00:11:01,500 other way around. They're are they giving the services away 184 00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:04,530 for free? Is that in the document date? No. They're 185 00:11:04,530 --> 00:11:08,760 getting paid to how is that support? I don't get it. 186 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:10,980 Adam Curry: Okay, I'll tell you my first thought when I was 187 00:11:10,980 --> 00:11:13,830 about this far in the clip as well I'm like, this is coming 188 00:11:13,830 --> 00:11:17,940 from some other company making Google look bad. Okay, 189 00:11:17,970 --> 00:11:20,400 John C Dvorak: now you can play there I'm sorry I run outside 190 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,730 okay, it's this terminology that they're supporting this when 191 00:11:23,730 --> 00:11:27,450 it's the other way around is annoying. It's as though because 192 00:11:27,450 --> 00:11:31,320 I went to bought some groceries at a local store that the 193 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,050 grocery store supporting me is they're not supporting me I'm 194 00:11:34,050 --> 00:11:35,610 buying groceries from them it's 195 00:11:35,610 --> 00:11:38,010 Adam Curry: possible that they have a value for value model a 196 00:11:38,010 --> 00:11:39,180 Google Play 197 00:11:39,180 --> 00:11:41,760 John C Dvorak: will you wrote that's a real possibility. 198 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:45,690 Adam Curry: Hey, hey Israel. How about we just give you this 199 00:11:45,690 --> 00:11:48,660 project Nimbus. If you feel like it, donate something to us, give 200 00:11:48,660 --> 00:11:51,000 us some time, talent or treasure? It was possible 201 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:53,820 Unknown: that other obligatory Cloud customers includes the 202 00:11:53,820 --> 00:11:57,630 blank Bank of Israel, Israel Airport Authority, and a quasi 203 00:11:57,630 --> 00:12:00,480 governmental body tasked with expanding Israel settlements in 204 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,110 the West Bank shocking. In the last two months, multiple Google 205 00:12:04,110 --> 00:12:08,190 employees got fired and arrested after protesting against project 206 00:12:08,220 --> 00:12:12,480 Nimbus, Google spokes person and a qual check and a statement to 207 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,990 the intercept said quote, this work is not directed at highly 208 00:12:15,990 --> 00:12:20,310 sensitive classified or military workloads relevant to weapons or 209 00:12:20,310 --> 00:12:23,730 intelligence service. We don't kill people this across Google, 210 00:12:23,730 --> 00:12:27,900 we've also been clear that we will not design or deploy AI 211 00:12:27,900 --> 00:12:31,740 applications as weapons or weapons systems, or for mass 212 00:12:31,770 --> 00:12:36,600 surveillance on quote, earlier intercept reported Israel's use 213 00:12:36,630 --> 00:12:40,020 of Google Photos to implement a facial recognition dragnet 214 00:12:40,050 --> 00:12:44,880 across Gaza Strip to scan ordinary Palestinians as they 215 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,570 attempt to flee the ongoing bombardment. Okay, a 216 00:12:48,570 --> 00:12:51,600 Adam Curry: couple things about this one. Oh, wow. Well, 217 00:12:52,290 --> 00:12:53,820 John C Dvorak: first of all, I mean, before you go to your 218 00:12:53,820 --> 00:12:57,810 couple of things, what do they have cameras in the middle of 219 00:12:57,810 --> 00:12:59,910 the rubble? Are you kidding me? 220 00:13:00,090 --> 00:13:04,320 Adam Curry: Know what, I love the outrage over this while in 221 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,560 America, the TSA has just started scanning everybody 222 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:10,170 without you know, without any just like, hey, we're doing this 223 00:13:10,170 --> 00:13:13,320 now. We're just doing facial recognition. Everyone's like, 224 00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:13,650 oh, 225 00:13:13,650 --> 00:13:15,690 Unknown: guy, but But Israel Gaza. 226 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,400 Adam Curry: Second of all, why I want to see all these people 227 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:25,740 divest from Google and Amazon. No more shopping. No more Gmail, 228 00:13:25,770 --> 00:13:31,560 no. Dogs. Where's that? Where's that? Come on. This is cheap. 229 00:13:31,590 --> 00:13:31,890 Diving. 230 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,910 Unknown: Back in 2019, there was noticeably a lot less outrage 231 00:13:35,910 --> 00:13:40,590 when it was reported that Google and its parent company Alphabet 232 00:13:40,590 --> 00:13:44,220 were working in ways that were benefiting the Chinese military, 233 00:13:44,340 --> 00:13:47,760 specifically for the purposes of them tracking the Uighur 234 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,200 population, as well as the Hong Kong protesters who were 235 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,950 protesting for their freedom they are using but the yellow 236 00:13:55,950 --> 00:13:59,670 people we don't care about them similar services in order to 237 00:13:59,670 --> 00:14:04,260 crack down on protesters there in order to track people who 238 00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:08,100 they wanted to put in concentration camps. But yet, at 239 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:11,190 the same time is grateful so that it was no longer going to 240 00:14:11,190 --> 00:14:15,660 buy for a $10 billion US government contract with its 241 00:14:15,660 --> 00:14:19,770 military saying that what the US military was doing was against 242 00:14:19,770 --> 00:14:24,090 its values. And so I'm very confused. Google's values 243 00:14:24,090 --> 00:14:27,180 supposedly are when they seemingly have no problem 244 00:14:27,180 --> 00:14:30,960 benefiting foreign governments, whether US allies or not, but 245 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,260 they won't even work with the US government. Why are they here? 246 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,780 Are they an American company? Do they consider 247 00:14:38,340 --> 00:14:40,530 John C Dvorak: we can stop this use your head? No, you can keep 248 00:14:40,530 --> 00:14:43,320 playing it. I like it, but I want to know what it is. I don't 249 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:47,760 recall what did you preface it with who was this rising? This 250 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,500 Adam Curry: is the rising the roll, no 251 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:50,850 John C Dvorak: rise rising. 252 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,040 Adam Curry: I preface it. You didn't hear it but yes, there 253 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,670 was probably zoning. This was yeah, she should be fired 254 00:14:56,670 --> 00:15:00,270 because she's about to drop young, 255 00:15:01,530 --> 00:15:02,490 John C Dvorak: young black girl. 256 00:15:03,540 --> 00:15:06,120 Unknown: I don't think so of men. So why are they based here? 257 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:06,510 Are they? 258 00:15:07,859 --> 00:15:09,749 John C Dvorak: young black girl doesn't sound black. She just I 259 00:15:09,749 --> 00:15:10,499 don't think that's her. I 260 00:15:10,500 --> 00:15:12,510 Adam Curry: don't think that's fair. I'm not sure I didn't clip 261 00:15:12,510 --> 00:15:13,380 this because I 262 00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:16,050 John C Dvorak: noticed that she can. She's really poor. She 263 00:15:16,050 --> 00:15:20,760 drops. She has some prompter issues as she's reading away and 264 00:15:20,790 --> 00:15:23,310 is a very this woman has the same balm 265 00:15:23,310 --> 00:15:25,530 Adam Curry: done with her. I don't care black or white. She's 266 00:15:25,530 --> 00:15:26,550 not she's off the show. 267 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,730 John C Dvorak: It's been eliminated from the shouldn't be 268 00:15:29,730 --> 00:15:31,050 off the show is what be? 269 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,960 Adam Curry: Well, let's now let's look at the endowment. 270 00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:37,710 This is it's all fascinating, because it's not really about 271 00:15:37,710 --> 00:15:41,850 killing people. It's not about genocide. No, it's about money, 272 00:15:42,180 --> 00:15:44,580 money, money, money, money. Here's a Meet the Press, 273 00:15:44,610 --> 00:15:47,220 Unknown: you hear a lot of these protesters demanding divestment. 274 00:15:47,220 --> 00:15:49,800 But they also will often say disclose first. And the reason 275 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,560 why is because we just don't have a lot of transparency into 276 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,170 what is in the school endowment. So again, part of this is the 277 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,080 broader strategy among pro Palestinian protesters to 278 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,710 boycott, divest, and sanction businesses that have ties to 279 00:16:01,740 --> 00:16:04,590 Israel now divest is the big conversation on college 280 00:16:04,590 --> 00:16:06,750 campuses, where you have these universities with, in many 281 00:16:06,750 --> 00:16:09,960 cases, multibillion dollar endowments that they use to 282 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,380 invest in companies. So how much of those invest? I'm so 283 00:16:13,380 --> 00:16:17,700 Adam Curry: confused, that we just gloss over this. Why aren't 284 00:16:17,700 --> 00:16:21,510 they giving away free education? The cup meal billions of 285 00:16:21,510 --> 00:16:23,610 dollars, and they're investing in the stock? 286 00:16:24,300 --> 00:16:25,590 John C Dvorak: The wrong guy here 287 00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:28,230 Unknown: are going into businesses that have ties to 288 00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:30,660 Israel. Well, let's take a look at some of the this is 289 00:16:30,660 --> 00:16:33,780 Adam Curry: why Eisenhower said the military or you didn't say 290 00:16:33,780 --> 00:16:36,390 it, but it was in his original speech. Yep, I have to be right 291 00:16:36,420 --> 00:16:39,990 there military industry, the military, academic industrial 292 00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:40,830 complex. 293 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:43,380 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he had academic in there originally. 294 00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:43,680 And 295 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,260 Adam Curry: then someone took it out and said, Hey, see this 296 00:16:46,260 --> 00:16:46,770 picture? 297 00:16:49,020 --> 00:16:51,750 Unknown: In your mouth, those investments are going into 298 00:16:51,750 --> 00:16:54,360 businesses that have ties to Israel. Well, let's take a look 299 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,840 at some of the requirements for how they have to disclose any 300 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,660 sort of holdings. There's a form 990 with the IRS that's reported 301 00:17:00,660 --> 00:17:03,420 annually. This gives you the broad mix of stocks versus bonds 302 00:17:03,420 --> 00:17:06,180 that a university will be holding it in endowment, but the 303 00:17:06,180 --> 00:17:10,110 detail on specific stocks that are being held comes from a 13 F 304 00:17:10,110 --> 00:17:13,080 filed with the SEC. The problem, though, is that that doesn't 305 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,840 really cover the entire scope of the endowment, which in many 306 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,780 cases, as I mentioned, can be in the billions of dollars, which 307 00:17:18,780 --> 00:17:21,600 means it's largely up to the universities on a voluntary 308 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,840 basis to disclose in their annual reports. What's actually 309 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,920 in there. I 310 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,500 Adam Curry: think we should crack this open. We should know 311 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:30,870 what these universities are doing it all this money and how 312 00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:35,790 does it benefit the children? Well, it's not obviously because 313 00:17:35,790 --> 00:17:38,670 they're retarded. The stuff they're doing, like, oh, 314 00:17:39,150 --> 00:17:42,720 billions of dollars and endowments, trashcan, man, come 315 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,220 on. This is crazy. 316 00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:48,330 Unknown: Man and Ryan, I'll give you an example of one 317 00:17:48,330 --> 00:17:50,610 university. Again, Columbia University getting a lot of 318 00:17:50,610 --> 00:17:53,220 scrutiny over all this when you look at the endowment. We're 319 00:17:53,220 --> 00:17:58,290 talking about a university that has $13.6 billion in endowment 320 00:17:58,290 --> 00:18:00,690 funds. We talked about that. I 321 00:18:00,690 --> 00:18:03,480 Adam Curry: mean, how many children can you educate from 322 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,590 that money? 13.6 That's a lot of billions 13 323 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:10,350 Unknown: app that discloses how many securities and how many 324 00:18:10,350 --> 00:18:15,030 types of companies are investing in, it covers only 68 million 325 00:18:15,060 --> 00:18:18,480 with an M, which means that the number of stocks that you know, 326 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,360 Columbia has invested in through their endowment. It's only about 327 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:26,550 point 5% So 99.5% of the endowment funds. We don't know 328 00:18:26,550 --> 00:18:29,280 about we don't know if they are or aren't in any sort of 329 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,860 companies that have attachments to Israel. So that's where 330 00:18:31,860 --> 00:18:34,980 protesters asking for they're asking for more disclosure of 331 00:18:34,980 --> 00:18:37,650 the nature of those investments before they then ask them to 332 00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:40,740 divest from those funds but the status quo there's not a lot of 333 00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:42,870 transparency into these endowments right okay. 334 00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:47,520 Adam Curry: So so their protests are this whole BDS boycott 335 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:52,830 divest and sanction has been based on stuff they don't even 336 00:18:52,830 --> 00:18:56,760 know this we know it we know your hide and secret secret Did 337 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,440 you payments we know it? What if it is this? They don't even know 338 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:06,750 this? No one seems to know. No. Oh, I find this highly highly 339 00:19:06,750 --> 00:19:10,200 irregular suspicious, suspicious and then so now when you think 340 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:15,600 about it, if it's all about hey, you're giving money to these 341 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,050 Israeli companies, then isn't it interesting 342 00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:21,240 John C Dvorak: when you know you're not give it Okay, first 343 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,640 of all, it's okay. I'd help these I've helped me about 344 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,240 terms. I helped me out you're not giving money to Israeli 345 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,170 companies. You're investing Oh, invest usually open markets, 346 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,150 stock market stuff investing. 347 00:19:33,180 --> 00:19:37,440 Adam Curry: That's a good point. And give me a giveaway. It's not 348 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,520 a gimme. Okay, you're investing Good point. Because that's what 349 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,920 a school should do. A school should be there to make money 350 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,690 for itself. Today. 351 00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:49,290 John C Dvorak: I am all for I'm with you on this this thesis. 352 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,590 harvest numbers are unbelievable. All these big 353 00:19:52,590 --> 00:19:55,230 universities have these large endowment usually they by 354 00:19:55,230 --> 00:19:58,950 soaking the alumni they call the alumni up constantly. I used to 355 00:19:58,950 --> 00:20:02,940 get called all the time from Cow, except once I told them one 356 00:20:02,940 --> 00:20:05,970 thing, and that was I got put on the blacklist. I haven't been 357 00:20:05,970 --> 00:20:09,720 called for years. What did you tell them? I said, you know, I 358 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,740 noticed that last year you guys gave a Brock Obama campaign a 359 00:20:13,740 --> 00:20:18,540 million dollars of this sort of money. Why am I giving you money 360 00:20:18,540 --> 00:20:21,870 so I can go to brocco bomb, I don't support the guy. And that 361 00:20:21,870 --> 00:20:22,740 never got called off 362 00:20:22,740 --> 00:20:27,930 Adam Curry: the list. off the list. Did you get to TP during 363 00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:29,550 during how? 364 00:20:31,170 --> 00:20:34,440 John C Dvorak: Pretty bad but when? When 365 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,140 Adam Curry: you think about what's about yesterday, so 366 00:20:37,140 --> 00:20:42,660 clearly there's the protesters want to hurt the companies that 367 00:20:42,660 --> 00:20:47,070 are being invested in? Doesn't if I just draw the logical 368 00:20:47,070 --> 00:20:52,770 conclusion, right? Yes. Okay. So then, now we have to look at 369 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,490 who's funding these things, because they're clearly short on 370 00:20:56,490 --> 00:20:58,350 the stocks or something. Both 371 00:20:58,380 --> 00:21:01,050 Unknown: sides of this are apparently being funded by quite 372 00:21:01,050 --> 00:21:04,620 wealthy people. You have Jerry Seinfeld's wife apparently 373 00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:08,310 helping to organize a pro Israel protests are 374 00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:11,400 Adam Curry: married to Shana, is he still married to her? Or has 375 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,110 he gotten a new wife in the meantime? 376 00:21:13,530 --> 00:21:15,180 John C Dvorak: I have no idea. Yeah, that's gotta 377 00:21:15,180 --> 00:21:16,590 Adam Curry: be promotion for his movie. 378 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,990 Unknown: Bill Ackman and other celebrities or I guess wealthy 379 00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:28,080 people have helped to donate to that party fund for the UNC 380 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,410 fraternity that was seen protecting the American flag. 381 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,200 And then on the pro Palestine side Students for Justice in 382 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,200 Palestine, of course receives funding from some Soros 383 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,680 foundations from the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation from a Wall 384 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,970 Street banker by the name of Felice Gellman, the protesters 385 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,240 have been led by some people who are with the US campaign for 386 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,000 Palestinian rights, which receives stipends from some of 387 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,690 those same progressive billionaires to go on to campus 388 00:21:54,690 --> 00:21:57,720 and help these students organize their protest. They have 389 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,530 received pro bono legal advice from the Palestine Legal Group. 390 00:22:01,590 --> 00:22:04,770 So across the board, and we can't just say that all of this 391 00:22:04,770 --> 00:22:08,730 is pure grassroots campaigning done by the students. For the 392 00:22:08,730 --> 00:22:11,040 students. There's outside influence, both on the pro 393 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,110 Palestinian and the pro Israel side. Yeah, I 394 00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:15,120 Adam Curry: think that's what broke all of this because no 395 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:17,520 one's taking it seriously anymore. Everyone's like, Oh, 396 00:22:17,730 --> 00:22:21,870 okay. It's these these investors on this side, fighting those 397 00:22:21,870 --> 00:22:25,740 investors on the other side. That's all I can see. Now, 398 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,710 billionaires, how do you become a billionaire? Well, you make a 399 00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:31,950 lot of money, and then you invested in the companies, I 400 00:22:31,950 --> 00:22:32,580 guess? 401 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:37,170 John C Dvorak: Well, you would take the if you were wanted to, 402 00:22:37,260 --> 00:22:39,990 you could if you could get everyone to divest and you are 403 00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:44,370 on the short side, you can make money. And then you can let it 404 00:22:44,370 --> 00:22:49,110 all go back to normal. You can make money that way. It is what 405 00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:49,740 Soros 406 00:22:50,550 --> 00:22:53,250 Adam Curry: typically Soros is made of shorting shorting 407 00:22:53,250 --> 00:22:53,760 currencies 408 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,000 John C Dvorak: is shorter, and he is also placed currencies. 409 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,060 He's really made more money off currencies than anyone could 410 00:23:00,060 --> 00:23:03,120 possibly do. Especially if you read his books. He's got a lot 411 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:07,620 of tips on how to do this and a lot of it has has to do with 412 00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:13,560 being completely manipulative. Yeah, 413 00:23:13,860 --> 00:23:16,290 Adam Curry: he's always he's short on a country. It's like 414 00:23:16,290 --> 00:23:19,530 Americana, short American now. It's time to take that dot. And 415 00:23:19,530 --> 00:23:23,640 of course, he's really not doing this anymore. It's his boys. Who 416 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,480 might Aberdeen's boyfriend? He's the He's the new face. What says 417 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,030 I've got you on financial stuff, Jonathan 418 00:23:30,030 --> 00:23:31,980 John C Dvorak: or something? Whatever is no, that's not his 419 00:23:31,980 --> 00:23:34,410 name. Jonathan Soros. Oh, it's 420 00:23:34,410 --> 00:23:38,070 Adam Curry: not Jonathan. It's Alex. Alex, Alex, Alex Soros, 421 00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:39,210 Unknown: Alex Soros. 422 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:44,400 Adam Curry: So you probably saw this hilarious video of Jared 423 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,560 Bernstein. This the the chairman or the CEO of the Council of 424 00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:54,600 Economic Advisers for the President. You saw this video. 425 00:23:55,260 --> 00:23:58,230 John C Dvorak: I passed through it a couple of times. I haven't 426 00:23:58,230 --> 00:24:00,930 really sat down and looked at it if you haven't played it, of 427 00:24:00,930 --> 00:24:01,260 course, 428 00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:05,580 Adam Curry: of course, because everyone's that you're talking 429 00:24:05,580 --> 00:24:07,950 about me you should get a HEPA filter. Stick your head in that 430 00:24:07,950 --> 00:24:13,620 to cedar closet. Right up. Everyone's laughing man 431 00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:14,130 John C Dvorak: and white in 432 00:24:14,130 --> 00:24:19,110 Adam Curry: the cedar closet? I don't know maybe. So everyone's 433 00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:21,690 laughing at this video. And it is laughable because the guy 434 00:24:21,690 --> 00:24:27,240 cannot explain how we print money and we borrow money. But 435 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:32,070 then why do we even have taxes? What? And he gets so confused 436 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:34,800 and I try I'm trying to track down same again, Jared 437 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,640 Bernstein. He really is the guy and he's he talks a big game 438 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,450 about inflation. He's on the White House lawn, you know, he's 439 00:24:42,450 --> 00:24:46,890 always brought in to give his commentary. And, and this is 440 00:24:46,890 --> 00:24:51,660 like the the season of reveal Pinnacle when he can't explain 441 00:24:51,930 --> 00:24:55,530 how our financial system works, how we finance the government, 442 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,850 but very few people have explained what's really going on 443 00:24:59,850 --> 00:25:05,760 and I have great hope, great hope that we can you can explain 444 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,110 this. So we understand so we can put you up for Chairman of the 445 00:25:10,140 --> 00:25:13,320 Economic Council of Advisors for the president because this guy 446 00:25:13,530 --> 00:25:14,670 is a numb nut. 447 00:25:15,390 --> 00:25:18,090 Unknown: And the US government can't go bankrupt because we can 448 00:25:18,090 --> 00:25:19,350 print or on money. 449 00:25:20,370 --> 00:25:23,550 It obviously begs the question, why exactly? Are we borrowing in 450 00:25:23,550 --> 00:25:26,190 a currency that we print ourselves and waiting for 451 00:25:26,190 --> 00:25:30,990 someone to stand up and say, Why do we borrow our own currency in 452 00:25:30,990 --> 00:25:31,950 the first place? 453 00:25:33,390 --> 00:25:36,000 Like you said, they print the dollar. So why why does the 454 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,640 government even borrow? Well, 455 00:25:40,770 --> 00:25:49,950 the so the I mean, again, some of the language that the MN some 456 00:25:49,950 --> 00:25:51,990 of the language and concepts are just confusing. I mean, the 457 00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:55,530 government definitely prints money. And it definitely lends 458 00:25:55,530 --> 00:25:58,530 that money, which is why the government definitely prints 459 00:25:58,530 --> 00:26:03,660 money, and then it lends that money by by selling bonds. Is 460 00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:10,890 that what they do? They, they, yeah, they, they, they sell 461 00:26:10,890 --> 00:26:13,890 bonds? Yeah, they sell bonds, right? Because they sell bonds, 462 00:26:13,890 --> 00:26:17,970 and people buy the bonds and lend them the money. Yeah. So a 463 00:26:17,970 --> 00:26:21,660 lot of times, a lot of times, at least to my ear with MMT, the 464 00:26:21,660 --> 00:26:24,990 language and the concepts can be kind of unnecessarily confusing, 465 00:26:24,990 --> 00:26:28,410 but there is no question that the government prints money, and 466 00:26:28,410 --> 00:26:38,640 then it uses that money to buy. So yeah, I guess I'm just I 467 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,160 can't really talk. I don't get it. I don't know what they're 468 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:46,620 talking about. Like, it's like, the government clearly prints 469 00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:49,740 money. It does it all the time, and it clearly borrows. 470 00:26:49,980 --> 00:26:52,380 Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this that in depth conversation. 471 00:26:52,380 --> 00:26:55,170 So I don't think there's anything confusing there. 472 00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:01,800 Adam Curry: So this is Hilarity for all and I'm gonna, I'm gonna 473 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,740 take a little guess here, I'm gonna guess that this guy 474 00:27:04,740 --> 00:27:08,070 doesn't understand, which is amazing. If you're the chairman 475 00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:12,060 and CEO of the economic council of advisors to the President, 476 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:15,870 that he doesn't understand that the Federal Reserve who creates 477 00:27:15,870 --> 00:27:19,680 money with the banking system is not a government institution. 478 00:27:21,780 --> 00:27:23,280 Unknown: No. So 479 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,820 Adam Curry: can you can you explain simply to us all, just 480 00:27:26,820 --> 00:27:29,340 John C Dvorak: the simplest way is that you have credits and 481 00:27:29,340 --> 00:27:32,460 debits or to balance the budget, they have the same amount of 482 00:27:32,460 --> 00:27:36,000 money out there that you have credits debits for and you so 483 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,420 you, you create a billion dollars with the bonds and sell 484 00:27:39,420 --> 00:27:43,380 them and that money goes into the into circulation. It's the 485 00:27:43,470 --> 00:27:46,890 only simplest way of looking at the way I see it. So 486 00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:49,920 Adam Curry: we, we sell a bond and then that bond, the Fed then 487 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,960 prints that bond in dollars. 488 00:27:53,130 --> 00:27:55,590 John C Dvorak: But people owe that money back. 489 00:27:55,620 --> 00:27:58,680 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. The people, the people Oh, 490 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,610 that was mostly 491 00:27:59,610 --> 00:28:01,560 John C Dvorak: the people that buy the bonds. I mean, people, 492 00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:04,260 everyone like say, Well, China, you know, today, yeah, a lot of 493 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:09,060 foreigners buy the bonds, too, because they're good. It's a 494 00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:12,120 good bond, and it has an interest that pays interest. 495 00:28:12,150 --> 00:28:16,140 Yeah. And oh, yeah, supposed to be the inflation rate at the 496 00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:19,350 most risk is always higher, of course, which means you're 497 00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:23,490 getting inflation. So that is a bid system is builds it builds 498 00:28:23,490 --> 00:28:24,420 inflation in 499 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,820 Adam Curry: so how, why do we pay taxes 500 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:34,470 John C Dvorak: to help because there is missing money? Because 501 00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:38,160 somewhere along the line, we didn't make this debit credit 502 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,070 thing balanced out. It's never balanced. There was supposed to 503 00:28:41,070 --> 00:28:43,920 be balanced, it would if they put a constitutional amendment 504 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,020 to balance it that you wouldn't have this issue. You probably 505 00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:48,690 wouldn't need to pay taxes, but then we'd all be broke that we 506 00:28:48,690 --> 00:28:51,630 wouldn't be any potholes fixed, and they're not potholes anyway. 507 00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:58,020 They send the money to Ukraine. Okay, I got the answers. Why do 508 00:28:58,020 --> 00:29:01,860 we pay tax? This is not a good system. Okay, no, it's a great 509 00:29:01,860 --> 00:29:06,210 system. We pay taxes to support the military industrial complex. 510 00:29:06,210 --> 00:29:06,330 That 511 00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:09,150 Adam Curry: is that's exactly literally where our money goes 512 00:29:09,150 --> 00:29:11,880 and to pay off the rent the interest the interest of the 513 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,530 money, we earn the interest for them did 514 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,890 John C Dvorak: the bond money mismatch? 515 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,140 Adam Curry: Is this a sustainable system? 516 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:22,860 John C Dvorak: Long term going for a long time? It's been going 517 00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:28,230 since? I'd say since 1913. Yes, that's that would be the correct 518 00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:32,010 date. Yes, it's been sustainable with a couple of with a couple 519 00:29:32,010 --> 00:29:33,180 of hiccups like that little 520 00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:35,970 Adam Curry: hiccup where we had to confiscate everybody's gold. 521 00:29:37,020 --> 00:29:40,770 That was one hiccup was that's one he had ca 1971 Hiccup 522 00:29:40,770 --> 00:29:43,590 John C Dvorak: is dropping gold altogether from the calculation. 523 00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:47,070 That was Nixon's hiccup. The good way to go real hiccups were 524 00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:51,420 1930 Depression 1970s, depression, the crash of 525 00:29:51,420 --> 00:29:57,840 2008 2009 there and that comes and goes COVID and COVID, a 526 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,960 COVID and the business the business cycle, so And what is 527 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,600 the best way to get this keep this going war? 528 00:30:04,890 --> 00:30:08,220 Adam Curry: Wars good? Isn't that what they always do? That 529 00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:12,030 John C Dvorak: is Marxist economy, a Marxist economists 530 00:30:12,030 --> 00:30:17,610 that's their basis for making these calculations. Yes. 531 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,160 Adam Curry: Oh, so you're Oh my second so so the Marxist like 532 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,650 war because it helps them with their system. 533 00:30:27,090 --> 00:30:28,740 John C Dvorak: Their misunderstanding. I don't know 534 00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:31,800 if they like war or not, but it seems that they might. But no, 535 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,220 they would they, when they see capitalism, they Stace, they 536 00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:42,630 like to interpret it as needing wars to exist. We need to slam 537 00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:45,270 on capitalism, but it's the market but it's a Marxist 538 00:30:45,270 --> 00:30:51,750 economic ish theory that wars are benefit capitalism. I'm just 539 00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:54,270 getting this from other Marxists. I mean, you know, not 540 00:30:54,270 --> 00:30:59,070 one beating did you have to show me the other day? They were 541 00:30:59,070 --> 00:31:01,170 bringing this up and get yet again. 542 00:31:01,530 --> 00:31:06,120 Adam Curry: I loved watching some of the Berkshire Hathaway, 543 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,800 a big meeting in Omaha. They have their annual meeting, of 544 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,600 course, yeah. Sad meeting. 545 00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:15,060 John C Dvorak: Is monger still alive? No, he's 546 00:31:15,060 --> 00:31:16,110 Adam Curry: dead. Oh, 547 00:31:16,110 --> 00:31:17,520 John C Dvorak: he died finally. Okay, 548 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,300 Adam Curry: at 99 is and so here's Warren Buffett without I 549 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,060 think he even referenced someone as Charlie for a moment. He 550 00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:29,820 forgot that he was dead. And they have like $188 billion in 551 00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:33,660 in cash. And Warren Buffett saying this is great. We just 552 00:31:33,660 --> 00:31:37,200 leave it in money markets. We just leave it in treasuries for 553 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,650 three months, six months. Right? Invest in the dumb companies. 554 00:31:40,860 --> 00:31:44,070 But Warren Buffett Warren Buffett Warren What about AI? 555 00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:45,600 Warren What about AI? 556 00:31:45,630 --> 00:31:48,660 Unknown: When you think of the potential for scamming people 557 00:31:51,840 --> 00:32:01,650 reproduce images I can't even tell to say I need money. As 558 00:32:01,650 --> 00:32:09,540 your daughter I just had a car crash. I need $50,000 wired I 559 00:32:09,540 --> 00:32:12,240 mean scamming has always been part of the American scene. 560 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:21,840 American made me was interested in Destiny's scamming. That's 561 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,500 gonna be the growth industry evolves. I mentioned abled in a 562 00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:30,180 way I you know, obviously AI has potential for good things too. 563 00:32:30,690 --> 00:32:35,430 But I don't know how you miss on the one I saw recently. I 564 00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:38,490 practically would send it to send money to myself overruns or 565 00:32:38,490 --> 00:32:46,680 some crazy country don't have any advice on you 566 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,470 Adam Curry: know I think he nails rambling now it went on 567 00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:53,610 for hours but I think he nails it though. All of this is good 568 00:32:53,610 --> 00:32:57,930 for but he didn't quite nail it. He said for scamming and for 569 00:32:57,930 --> 00:33:03,510 comedy so far we have seen no other actual use yes 570 00:33:03,540 --> 00:33:04,890 John C Dvorak: for a lot art 571 00:33:05,490 --> 00:33:10,500 Adam Curry: yes art you know 60 minutes that a huge thing whole 572 00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:16,110 Randy Travis be thanks to AI he can sing again. Oh boy. I didn't 573 00:33:16,110 --> 00:33:19,020 know he could now he has had some horrible illness oh 574 00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:23,340 John C Dvorak: yeah was throat issues Yeah. Well, I think you 575 00:33:23,340 --> 00:33:25,860 may be summarizing I think you might be on to something I 576 00:33:25,860 --> 00:33:30,150 liked. That clip is almost a go clip borderline borderline but 577 00:33:30,150 --> 00:33:33,420 not because you could because he's hard to hear him. 578 00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:35,640 Adam Curry: Why can't help that. The 579 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:41,520 John C Dvorak: idea that AI is good for Kuma definitely yeah. 580 00:33:41,610 --> 00:33:46,140 Did you see the bad guy there's wanting to buy No. Pooping 581 00:33:46,170 --> 00:33:50,190 Adam Curry: the best using AI this year. We ate we need to do 582 00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:57,540 the no agenda AI awards. There you go. Best. Best category for 583 00:33:57,540 --> 00:34:04,140 fake video goes to Cat term. Cat term, you're 584 00:34:04,140 --> 00:34:06,750 John C Dvorak: already just I've been pushing for some sort of 585 00:34:06,750 --> 00:34:08,040 awards, the martial 586 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,040 Adam Curry: arts. There's our awards, the AI Podcast Awards. 587 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,470 We'll just throw podcast in there to give it some validity 588 00:34:13,470 --> 00:34:17,070 but it's not about podcasts at all. Just said the AI Podcast 589 00:34:17,070 --> 00:34:20,910 Awards because we do the awards on podcast and we hand out the 590 00:34:20,910 --> 00:34:26,160 best well AI and here's here's this fake voice Yeah, best fake 591 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,820 voice best. And of course we have to have an R rated 592 00:34:29,820 --> 00:34:35,340 category. Best our rated picture of Taylor Swift Taylor Swift its 593 00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:40,320 own category altogether. Yeah, and and we should say best AI 594 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,820 spokes hold dear members 595 00:34:41,820 --> 00:34:44,730 Unknown: of the media and the public. I welcome you. My name 596 00:34:44,730 --> 00:34:47,880 is Victoria she I have been created by the Ministry of 597 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,360 Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, using artificial intelligence to 598 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,720 provide you with timely and high quality information on Consular 599 00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:58,710 Affairs. I am a digital person. That means that the text you 600 00:34:58,710 --> 00:35:01,860 hear was not read by a real person, it was generated by 601 00:35:01,860 --> 00:35:05,760 artificial intelligence. I will carry out a number of tasks. 602 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,210 First and foremost, I will inform the public providing 603 00:35:09,210 --> 00:35:12,780 timely and verified information from Ukraine's consular service. 604 00:35:14,849 --> 00:35:18,059 Adam Curry: Oh, wow, it's Yeah. Have you seen catch? Have you 605 00:35:18,059 --> 00:35:19,739 seen her? Have you seen the video? No, 606 00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:21,480 John C Dvorak: I have not seen her I know but you know that do 607 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,380 you have to remember that the Japanese had an AI girl who's 608 00:35:25,380 --> 00:35:28,740 extremely famous in Japan somebody whenever a Japanese 609 00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:31,290 produces can tell it can remember the name of this woman? 610 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:31,770 Oh, 611 00:35:31,770 --> 00:35:33,540 Adam Curry: I know what you're talking about. Yeah. And it 612 00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:36,330 John C Dvorak: was a face and she was she was a celebrity but 613 00:35:36,330 --> 00:35:40,140 she was completely computer generated. But it was called 614 00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:43,890 back then when she came around. This is 5678 years ago when she 615 00:35:43,890 --> 00:35:47,520 showed up. This was called Computer Generated 616 00:35:47,550 --> 00:35:51,150 Adam Curry: Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like Man is the same thing. Max 617 00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:51,750 Headroom? 618 00:35:52,770 --> 00:35:54,780 John C Dvorak: Yes. Like Max Headroom. Be one of our 619 00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:56,130 celebrity judges 620 00:35:56,190 --> 00:36:00,030 Adam Curry: Max head. Yeah. Yeah, I'm one of those guys. 621 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,790 That think we're onto something here. It's begging is the AI 622 00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:09,330 world is begging for an award show. Oh, yes, they need it. 623 00:36:09,570 --> 00:36:14,310 They do and then they can we can tell everyone Hey, listen. You 624 00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:18,150 know, just in case you win, wink wink nudge nudge I think he was 625 00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:21,660 possibly you might have one could you please do an 626 00:36:21,660 --> 00:36:25,680 acceptance speech for us? Really funny. So okay, well 627 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,950 John C Dvorak: this show is going to take it to the limit 628 00:36:28,980 --> 00:36:32,220 and a couple of things that should be noted. One Yes, you do 629 00:36:32,220 --> 00:36:35,310 that you bribe people with awards to get them to speak 630 00:36:35,490 --> 00:36:40,620 lifetime? Not right away but I'd say within a couple of years 631 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,800 probably within three you'd have you to get nominated. You have 632 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,460 to pay a fee. 633 00:36:47,490 --> 00:36:50,040 Adam Curry: Oh of course no. This is how it works now there's 634 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,120 an entrance fee yeah that's how we make a reasonable fee Yes 635 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:59,520 $2,000 That's our that's how we make money Yeah, and then we 636 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,950 make money on the catering for the gala 637 00:37:05,130 --> 00:37:06,720 John C Dvorak: Yeah, there has to be catering there has to be a 638 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:07,170 gala 639 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,150 Adam Curry: red carpets 640 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,570 John C Dvorak: well I don't know about that. I don't maybe we're 641 00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:15,210 onto some of the some of the guys who do this there are 642 00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:18,900 Adam Curry: there are so many companies now we were just doing 643 00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:22,260 it virtual was save money there are so many companies who have 644 00:37:22,290 --> 00:37:23,970 it'd be best 645 00:37:25,410 --> 00:37:27,660 John C Dvorak: to do a virtual we're gonna have a real event 646 00:37:27,690 --> 00:37:32,220 Adam Curry: best prompt jockey think about and that's gonna 647 00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:33,690 John C Dvorak: be hard to eat. Here's the problem with that. 648 00:37:33,690 --> 00:37:38,070 Yeah, I would say I'm worried that we're gonna sell merch, the 649 00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:40,770 merchants or somebody else could do the merch. We don't have to 650 00:37:40,770 --> 00:37:44,280 do we just job it out. But I would say I don't like the 651 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,620 prompt jockey thing is going to be tough because what you're 652 00:37:46,620 --> 00:37:52,590 doing is you're exposing a boy II to poaching. Yeah, okay. 653 00:37:53,010 --> 00:37:54,090 You're not gonna go for that. 654 00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:55,560 Adam Curry: But we can definitely get a whole bunch of 655 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,070 comedians to judge the funniest memes the the funniest video 656 00:37:59,070 --> 00:38:03,030 memes the funniest now the panel, and then you know, best, 657 00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:09,540 best faked leaked audio like that. 658 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,540 John C Dvorak: We can sit down and do the categories. Okay, 659 00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:15,450 good. All right. So it's done deal. All right. Exit Strategy. 660 00:38:15,450 --> 00:38:16,050 Beautiful. 661 00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:17,100 Adam Curry: Now, no, I 662 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:18,330 John C Dvorak: think we can still do the show. 663 00:38:20,730 --> 00:38:25,080 Adam Curry: How disappointing now. Now, let's just let's go 664 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,510 talk to somebody. Let's listen to somebody who knows all about 665 00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:31,680 AI, who is all in and actually calls it the AI which I think we 666 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,960 need to start adopting. It's not AI, it's the AIS. And that's 667 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:43,140 Bill Gates. And he's back on the scene with the Hannah Ricci This 668 00:38:43,140 --> 00:38:47,730 is his unconfused me podcast, where and he's something's 669 00:38:47,730 --> 00:38:50,280 really weird, but I mean, okay, so it was always weird though. 670 00:38:50,370 --> 00:38:51,750 He's sitting he has 671 00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:55,320 John C Dvorak: a bit of a he has a neurological disorder. 672 00:38:55,710 --> 00:38:58,110 Adam Curry: This is something with his right arm there's 673 00:38:58,110 --> 00:39:01,050 something his his left shoulder was up his right arm was he 674 00:39:01,050 --> 00:39:02,910 never moved really his right arm. 675 00:39:03,090 --> 00:39:05,700 John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's got some he's got some some issue 676 00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:09,060 and he also has fax. I think that's Parkinson's problem, 677 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,330 Adam Curry: though. Sorry about that. But anyway, we're still 678 00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:13,050 gonna make fun of him. 679 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,580 Unknown: My guest is Dr. Hannah Ricci, data scientist and 680 00:39:17,580 --> 00:39:22,080 researcher at the University of Oxford, also head of research 681 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,920 for our world in data. She's just coming out with the 682 00:39:25,950 --> 00:39:29,790 fantastic new book called not the end of the world. Welcome, 683 00:39:29,790 --> 00:39:30,630 Hannah. It's 684 00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:31,500 a pleasure to be here. 685 00:39:31,590 --> 00:39:33,480 Adam Curry: It's a pleasure to be here. Okay, so now we're 686 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,150 gonna get into it about the power of AI. 687 00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:38,250 Unknown: Is there something that you've changed your mind about 688 00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:38,760 recently, 689 00:39:39,330 --> 00:39:42,210 I spent a lot of time in the technology world and I have to 690 00:39:42,210 --> 00:39:47,280 say I was very stunned how the AIS went from basically not 691 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,420 being able to read or write at all, to doing that in a very 692 00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:55,770 facile way. Still very imperfect. But it kind of blew 693 00:39:55,770 --> 00:40:01,800 my mind I had challenged people to pass a test and thought they 694 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,370 might never at least take them years, but within a few months, 695 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:10,260 they were able to do it. So now, you know, I'm thinking about 696 00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:16,770 Wow, how do we use this in education and health and in 697 00:40:16,770 --> 00:40:20,340 various environmental challenges? So the power of 698 00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:27,390 these AI is I, I miss predicted that and I'm reformed. He's 699 00:40:27,390 --> 00:40:32,070 Adam Curry: reformed he believes in the power of the AIS. With 700 00:40:32,070 --> 00:40:35,460 it's very weird to say the AIS. It's like he's like talking 701 00:40:35,460 --> 00:40:39,840 about the God's power of the eyes of AI is I'm reformed I 702 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,320 believe in the power of the AI is our new god. So what do you 703 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,850 think Bill was thinking about? Really? If we're using the power 704 00:40:47,850 --> 00:40:49,920 of the AI guys, any ideas? 705 00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:54,630 John C Dvorak: What could Yeah, what the mRNA vaccines now 706 00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:55,170 creepier 707 00:40:55,290 --> 00:40:58,380 Adam Curry: and creepier? creepier creepier. 708 00:40:58,410 --> 00:41:00,990 John C Dvorak: Who wants to clone himself? I have no idea. 709 00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:01,410 Close. 710 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,260 Unknown: Do you think AI will play a role in climate action? 711 00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:08,340 Well, absolutely. Because our ability to model complex 712 00:41:08,340 --> 00:41:08,970 phenomena 713 00:41:08,970 --> 00:41:12,450 John C Dvorak: we hold on and say stop the podcast. Oh, wow. 714 00:41:12,570 --> 00:41:14,640 Adam Curry: He just pulled the emergency brake. 715 00:41:17,610 --> 00:41:20,280 John C Dvorak: Didn't Bill introduce her? And isn't this 716 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,750 his podcast? No, 717 00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:23,640 Adam Curry: it's that's what's so interesting. I'm glad you 718 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,630 picked up on that. 719 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,170 John C Dvorak: So how did it turn around or he's being 720 00:41:28,170 --> 00:41:31,890 interviewed? Now that's kind of a podcast host is that? 721 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,770 Adam Curry: This is this is the new format. I think it's 722 00:41:34,770 --> 00:41:35,790 revolutionary. 723 00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:37,950 John C Dvorak: Revolutionaries, 724 00:41:37,950 --> 00:41:40,710 Adam Curry: like what I give I give him two thumbs up for this 725 00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:43,350 concept. I like it. I like it a lot. Let's go back. 726 00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:46,200 Unknown: Do you think AI will play a role in climate action? 727 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:46,650 Well, 728 00:41:46,650 --> 00:41:51,900 absolutely, because our ability to model complex phenomena, the 729 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:56,310 AIs are helping a lot with that. So for example, looking at the 730 00:41:56,340 --> 00:42:01,230 genetics of cows, and saying, Hey, some cows emit a lot of 731 00:42:01,230 --> 00:42:06,780 methane and some emit very, very little, and some cows survive in 732 00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:10,890 hot weather very well in some do not. And then along with our 733 00:42:10,890 --> 00:42:15,450 ability to edit genes, one of the most dramatic source of 734 00:42:15,450 --> 00:42:19,830 emissions that at one time I and wasn't sure the path forward. 735 00:42:20,250 --> 00:42:25,860 Now we can see either making the cows better, or various 736 00:42:25,860 --> 00:42:29,520 techniques where they they create meat without the cow 737 00:42:29,550 --> 00:42:32,880 Adam Curry: there it is. We create meat without the cow. 738 00:42:34,020 --> 00:42:37,170 There's even a new in the Netherlands, they're promoting 739 00:42:37,170 --> 00:42:40,860 farmer LIS meat, this is my favorite meat without the 740 00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:48,090 farmer. That's the way to go. So, Bill is all in on the 741 00:42:48,090 --> 00:42:52,350 climate change making meat without the cow and probably 742 00:42:52,350 --> 00:42:54,120 some more here. Let's see what else Yes, even 743 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,450 Unknown: the weather modeling piece. Now AI has been applied 744 00:42:57,450 --> 00:43:00,570 to that boat the long term which is, you know, kind of those 745 00:43:00,570 --> 00:43:05,310 climate models, but say telling the farmer in Africa based on 746 00:43:05,310 --> 00:43:09,240 the weather, should they go ahead and plant now? Or is it 747 00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:12,480 going to be so dry? You know, they use stories planted the 748 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,640 first rain, but if you know that's anomalous, you know, then 749 00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:21,450 then you shouldn't plant and so the eyes are really starting to 750 00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:23,430 help us with very practical problems. 751 00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:24,750 Adam Curry: This is bull crap. 752 00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:26,040 John C Dvorak: He say a eyes he 753 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,620 Adam Curry: keeps saying the AI I'm telling you the guy is 754 00:43:28,620 --> 00:43:34,170 looking at the AIS as the gods. He's reformed. Remember the AIS? 755 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,130 The the so the 756 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:40,020 John C Dvorak: tip. I wish I had the Mr. mRNA clip that he just 757 00:43:40,020 --> 00:43:44,940 did too. And for USA Today where he's like going off the deep 758 00:43:44,940 --> 00:43:46,200 end. Don't 759 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,750 Adam Curry: worry, there's more because he has 760 00:43:49,950 --> 00:43:51,210 John C Dvorak: to wait there's more. 761 00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:59,370 Adam Curry: So remember that you're making cow mooing noises 762 00:43:59,370 --> 00:44:04,620 It's a very inappropriate sell AI remember that we just had 763 00:44:04,620 --> 00:44:09,030 this bird flu scare which is not over. But oh, it wasn't in the 764 00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:12,270 in the ground beef. Ah, thank God it might be in the milk but 765 00:44:12,270 --> 00:44:15,180 it's in the ground beef. But when people you know people 766 00:44:15,180 --> 00:44:18,300 listened very poorly to the news and they hit breaking breaking 767 00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:23,820 breaking ground beef. Bird flu. I guarantee you that people are 768 00:44:23,820 --> 00:44:28,140 like, well maybe you should just have some chicken tonight. I'm 769 00:44:28,140 --> 00:44:31,260 sure want to have some gris ierarh on chicken. I heard 770 00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:34,470 something about ground beef. I don't like it and bit and 771 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:38,760 they're all jumping in on it. I would have to say if it wasn't 772 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,140 planned, ma'am. They really picked up quick because the fake 773 00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:46,470 meat people are back. They're not going to give up. They're 774 00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:48,120 all in including Bill 775 00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:51,150 Unknown: are you what what scenario where new data kind of 776 00:44:51,390 --> 00:44:53,400 changed your your view of things. 777 00:44:53,970 --> 00:44:57,750 So my general framework for change on many of these 778 00:44:57,780 --> 00:45:01,320 technologies is that if you generate alternative technology, 779 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,440 which is as good as the original and is cheaper than the 780 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,140 original, then people will just adopt it. And I think that's 781 00:45:07,140 --> 00:45:11,130 true for energy sources. I think people are not that bothered 782 00:45:11,130 --> 00:45:14,430 about what actually comes goes into the plug. They just want 783 00:45:14,430 --> 00:45:19,200 reliable power. I think one area where I'm a bit more skeptical 784 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,970 of that framework, nose and food. Now I'm a big fan of meat 785 00:45:23,970 --> 00:45:26,970 substitutes, I love Impossible Burger beyond meat burger, like 786 00:45:26,970 --> 00:45:30,150 I'm a vegan. So I eat this stuff all the time, I think I had this 787 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:34,140 framework in my head that FDA just got cheap enough and tasted 788 00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:38,100 good that people would just make that switch, I'm now becoming 789 00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:42,120 much more skeptical that it will be as easy as that. I think 790 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,330 there will just be this inherent resistance for many people that 791 00:45:45,330 --> 00:45:49,050 is not meat, so I'm not going to make the switch. So to me, I'm 792 00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:53,070 leaning more towards, I think if we're going to see this large 793 00:45:53,070 --> 00:45:55,830 scale change and dietary habits and basically needs to generate, 794 00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:58,500 you basically just need to generate meat, which would be 795 00:45:58,530 --> 00:46:01,860 lab grown meat, for example, when it's not just a plant based 796 00:46:01,860 --> 00:46:05,490 substitute for that, but it's the actual thing, just without 797 00:46:05,490 --> 00:46:06,630 the cow or the chicken. 798 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,680 Adam Curry: I'm telling you that this is not a coincidence that 799 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,560 Bill Gates and he's clearly interested in anything modifying 800 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,470 cow she's like, Nah, now we just need to go to lab grown meat, 801 00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:21,750 and it's on the radar all over the place. Good luck tops. Wha? 802 00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:25,020 Hey, I think there's I think there's a path for these nut 803 00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:30,120 jobs. Here's Tom llamas with a top story top story on NBC. 804 00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:33,300 Unknown: I'm joined tonight by Tom Ross Meisel. He's the head 805 00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:36,810 of Global Marketing at good meat, one of just two cultivated 806 00:46:36,810 --> 00:46:36,990 meat. 807 00:46:37,110 --> 00:46:39,570 Adam Curry: Let's just bring in the guy who's the head of Global 808 00:46:39,570 --> 00:46:42,360 Marketing. Don't you think that's kind of suspicious? 809 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,470 John C Dvorak: Well, it depends on what the story's about. Is it 810 00:46:49,470 --> 00:46:53,520 about global marketing or Well, it's about is it about this 811 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:58,980 meeting? Even news this is a native ad is what you're gonna 812 00:46:58,980 --> 00:47:00,060 bought to play? Yes, 813 00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:02,970 Adam Curry: correct. Well, it's because of a debates going on in 814 00:47:02,970 --> 00:47:03,780 Florida meat 815 00:47:03,780 --> 00:47:06,270 Unknown: companies in the US that had been approved by the 816 00:47:06,270 --> 00:47:09,360 FDA to sell their products and Representative Dean black who is 817 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,320 a Republican member of Florida's let's state legislature, but an 818 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,080 important but here he's also a cattle rancher. We thank you 819 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,480 both for joining top story tonight. I'm looking forward to 820 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,510 a spirited debate. Tom, I'm going to play a video for our 821 00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:22,650 viewers now that are great 822 00:47:23,370 --> 00:47:28,080 John C Dvorak: spirited debate as comma, this role. So we're 823 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,980 looking forward to a spirited debate here on the TV show, walk 824 00:47:31,980 --> 00:47:32,070 our 825 00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:33,750 Unknown: viewers through what we're looking here. So the meats 826 00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:36,210 built or assembled, I guess, in these 827 00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:41,400 Adam Curry: were, what he said assembled, he's versus is built, 828 00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:43,560 then assembled, both equally bad 829 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,320 Unknown: built are assembled, I guess, in these metal 830 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,290 containers. And then it comes out and it looks just like a 831 00:47:49,290 --> 00:47:52,380 fillet right? By that grocery store. I would know the 832 00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:56,730 difference. And if you're an idiot, looks like a chicken 833 00:47:56,730 --> 00:48:00,720 fillet. My question to you is What does it taste like? It 834 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:01,530 tastes like chicken. 835 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,770 Adam Curry: People are going to fall for this. John, people are 836 00:48:07,770 --> 00:48:12,480 going to go I can predict it right now. This global warming 837 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,690 nonsense has been going on for In fact, I have a call out for 838 00:48:15,690 --> 00:48:20,310 our producers. We have a best of show coming up. For the think 839 00:48:20,310 --> 00:48:25,890 Sunday the 26th. And Sir de nonnamous has upgraded being 840 00:48:25,890 --> 00:48:30,870 it.io. I mean, he has done a phenomenal job. You can search 841 00:48:31,170 --> 00:48:34,050 every single episode of the no agenda show I did some and you 842 00:48:34,050 --> 00:48:37,980 can do also now. sort those results in reverse chronological 843 00:48:37,980 --> 00:48:41,880 order. I would I'm going I'm going to put together a global 844 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,590 warming slash climate change special because already never 845 00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:51,150 did. You just did Eclipse. Yeah, but now but now you can get us 846 00:48:51,180 --> 00:48:55,830 talking. And then there's a lot of stuff that's not clips. This 847 00:48:55,830 --> 00:48:57,060 just Okay, your stations. 848 00:48:57,300 --> 00:48:58,230 John C Dvorak: It'd be a nice show. 849 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,120 Adam Curry: I think it'd be a great show. And I'd like 850 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,530 producers to go to bing.io and search because it goes back to 851 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:11,010 episode three. We were talking about this nonsense. And every 852 00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:14,370 it's been the same for almost 17 years. 853 00:49:15,150 --> 00:49:17,490 John C Dvorak: Can I Can I interrupt your pace and flow for 854 00:49:17,490 --> 00:49:21,600 a second place? We have to do two donation segments today. Go 855 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:21,690 I 856 00:49:21,690 --> 00:49:24,540 Adam Curry: know I was already thinking about that. I just 857 00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:26,880 wanted to I think we're just back to two I mean, I love it. I 858 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,160 thought it would I thought everyone felt very comfortable. 859 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,810 Here's what we need is we need the art generate a generator to 860 00:49:33,810 --> 00:49:38,460 come back online. Oh, is it dead on the check if it's back online 861 00:49:38,460 --> 00:49:45,870 by now? Nope, it's dead. Is Dead Jim? No agenda art generator.com 862 00:49:45,870 --> 00:49:50,640 is dead as a doornail. Yeah, getting that Cloudflare thing. 863 00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:54,180 Okay, so let's, let's just continue for a little bit 864 00:49:54,180 --> 00:49:57,660 because I think I can tell you Well, how about let me see. 865 00:49:59,130 --> 00:50:01,680 John C Dvorak: So the theme over Your little presentation here is 866 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,870 fake meat. fake 867 00:50:03,870 --> 00:50:07,560 Adam Curry: meat. Yes, fake meat, which was precipitated by 868 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:12,300 the fake scare about the fake bird flu. And so now the fake 869 00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:15,240 meat people are out all over the place. Tom, what do you see? 870 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,930 John C Dvorak: Oh, hold on. Yeah. So you're equating the 871 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:24,360 bird flu bull crap that Ken went? Yep. With fake meat. Yeah, 872 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,290 the impetus for fake meat as part of a long arc cut 873 00:50:28,290 --> 00:50:31,980 Adam Curry: set up a big setup. Wow, Bill Gates has an 874 00:50:31,980 --> 00:50:34,650 investment in fake meat company. Well, 875 00:50:34,650 --> 00:50:36,600 John C Dvorak: good for him. He's bought time he lost on some 876 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,910 of his investments. Now, 877 00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:40,890 Adam Curry: I'm just going to take the other side of that, I 878 00:50:40,890 --> 00:50:43,800 think that they're going to, they're going to make it happen. 879 00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:46,860 And, and I'm going to tell you how I'm going to tell you how 880 00:50:46,860 --> 00:50:49,380 first, let's get another one I got, I'm gonna skip around these 881 00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:50,880 clips, I don't want to bore you too much 882 00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:54,540 Unknown: to what culture and politics would be at play here. 883 00:50:55,980 --> 00:50:59,670 I mean, you you should ask Representative black. There are 884 00:50:59,670 --> 00:51:03,090 no credible safety concerns coming from the legislature 885 00:51:03,090 --> 00:51:08,190 about this. So you know, if politicians want to say, hey, we 886 00:51:08,190 --> 00:51:12,600 don't like this meet, that may play well with some consumers. 887 00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:15,630 But you know, ultimately, consumers should decide what 888 00:51:15,630 --> 00:51:17,850 meat they want to buy or not buy. Okay, 889 00:51:17,850 --> 00:51:21,360 Adam Curry: so peers. Now we're gonna get some of the reasons 890 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,560 why we need lab grown meat. Tommy says, Does the 891 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,620 Unknown: country need this right now? And is would your meat be 892 00:51:28,620 --> 00:51:31,350 more affordable? I mean, I mean, give me the top three reasons 893 00:51:31,350 --> 00:51:34,980 why America needs us right now. That's a good question. Yeah, so 894 00:51:34,980 --> 00:51:39,210 the the number one reasons environmental, so we're growing 895 00:51:39,210 --> 00:51:43,050 just the meat that is consumed by a consumer, we're not growing 896 00:51:43,050 --> 00:51:46,950 at the corn, intestine, or fur, or tendons or anything like 897 00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:50,580 that. So we have the ability to grow meat much more efficiently 898 00:51:50,850 --> 00:51:51,990 than the conventional way. 899 00:51:52,050 --> 00:51:55,740 Adam Curry: Yes, we grow meat better than cows, okay. And 900 00:51:55,740 --> 00:51:56,070 that's going to 901 00:51:56,070 --> 00:52:00,030 Unknown: be really important. I mean, the protein requirements 902 00:52:00,030 --> 00:52:03,000 of the planet are going to double between now and 2050. 903 00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:06,510 Adam Curry: Redefining protein, as we suggested would happen. So 904 00:52:06,510 --> 00:52:07,350 adding another 905 00:52:07,350 --> 00:52:10,050 Unknown: tool to be able to sustainably make protein is 906 00:52:10,050 --> 00:52:12,990 going to be really important. It's not going to replace 907 00:52:13,110 --> 00:52:16,260 conventional meat. We're not advocating for that. I'm 908 00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:20,010 certainly that's not be expected from the Florida Legislature. 909 00:52:20,610 --> 00:52:23,160 But consumers should decide they should be able to go to a 910 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,640 grocery store and determine what type of safe and approve meat 911 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,060 they want. 912 00:52:27,210 --> 00:52:30,300 Adam Curry: Okay, so it comes down to one that by the sorry, 913 00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:31,050 not 914 00:52:31,050 --> 00:52:34,740 John C Dvorak: to interrupt here. But I want to say that is 915 00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:40,290 the mistake they're making. Consumers will not decide in 916 00:52:40,290 --> 00:52:45,420 favor of lab grown meat there's consumers are not so stupid, 917 00:52:45,690 --> 00:52:48,510 that they think that lab grown meats better and all they need 918 00:52:48,510 --> 00:52:51,300 is just a kind of a kickoff Hey, you know there's amino acids, 919 00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:55,200 there's all kinds of who knows what mystery elements and, and 920 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,310 vitamins in real meat that the body needs over it because of 921 00:52:59,310 --> 00:53:03,840 evolutionary factors that is not going to be in lab grown 922 00:53:03,870 --> 00:53:05,730 anything that you 923 00:53:05,730 --> 00:53:08,190 Adam Curry: are correct about the quality of the products that 924 00:53:08,190 --> 00:53:11,820 it will be very bad for humans. You I believe you're incorrect 925 00:53:11,820 --> 00:53:16,980 about consumers being stupid a, a lot of consumers took a gene 926 00:53:16,980 --> 00:53:20,190 therapy that it had no business injecting into their body 927 00:53:20,250 --> 00:53:23,250 stupid, I don't know depends on how its positioned by the 928 00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:28,950 authorities and the science. Millions of people have been 929 00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:33,360 psyops into buying an electric vehicle because all it's going 930 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,940 to save the climate is going to save the world is going to 931 00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:39,150 change everything. And these are the saps that are standing by 932 00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:42,150 the side of the road when it's too hot. When it's too cold. 933 00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:45,900 Their car is worth 30% less the minute they drive it off the lot 934 00:53:45,900 --> 00:53:51,810 50% within six months. Yes, consumers are stupid when lied 935 00:53:51,810 --> 00:53:55,770 to, particularly by people of authority like I don't know Elon 936 00:53:55,770 --> 00:53:59,910 Musk. So what is the ticket? Why did they what is the ticket into 937 00:53:59,910 --> 00:54:02,760 getting the people to buy the cheap meat? Listen to this last 938 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:03,060 clip 939 00:54:03,210 --> 00:54:05,190 Unknown: right now? Is it cheaper or more expensive than 940 00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:08,280 regular meat? Yeah, right now it's more expensive. We've got a 941 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,310 lot of steps in order to scale our technology, it's going to 942 00:54:11,310 --> 00:54:14,940 take a lot of time to get there. But that's true of all new 943 00:54:14,940 --> 00:54:17,970 industries. You know, when cars came out, they're very expensive 944 00:54:17,970 --> 00:54:22,110 cell phones, electric vehicles, you name it. There's always a 945 00:54:22,110 --> 00:54:25,740 process when you're scaling up a new technology and 946 00:54:25,740 --> 00:54:27,600 Adam Curry: what was the solution for the electric 947 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,280 vehicles $5,000 subsidy from the government it's coming for fake 948 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:38,010 meat. Guaranteed. If you buy the fake meat, it's going to be 949 00:54:38,010 --> 00:54:41,280 cheaper because of the subsidies to the supermarket to the 950 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,480 producers however they do it. Yes. I think that that is going 951 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,920 to happen. I know you disagree. You disagree clearly Well, I'm 952 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,410 John C Dvorak: gonna give you a little I'll give you that I'll 953 00:54:52,410 --> 00:54:55,740 give you the possibilities that they're going to chicken shit 954 00:54:55,740 --> 00:54:59,850 away into this by giving away money by American taxpayer 955 00:54:59,850 --> 00:55:02,400 money. Need to make it so it looks more appealing as 956 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,410 Adam Curry: we print it right? But 957 00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:09,030 John C Dvorak: even cheaper, it's going to, if it's cheaper 958 00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:12,210 disguise, you're going to be a mistake. Because of the way the 959 00:55:12,210 --> 00:55:16,470 mind works. It's going to be a cheap lab grown substitute for 960 00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:20,670 real chicken, which is cheap anyway. But okay, let's just say 961 00:55:20,670 --> 00:55:26,700 it's a cheap lab grown chicken meat. And it's going to this is 962 00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:29,220 cheaper so we can save a little money here. Oh, I don't know. 963 00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:33,870 It's looks cheap. It's cheap. It's going to be seen as cheap 964 00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:40,230 junk. I think there's a huge hurdle to get over. If you're 965 00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:42,330 going to pull this stunt where you think you're going to sell 966 00:55:42,330 --> 00:55:47,040 the public lab grown? You know, some slush, okay. It's not it's 967 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,330 never gonna get this right. 968 00:55:48,330 --> 00:55:51,210 Adam Curry: Have you walked through a regular old 969 00:55:51,210 --> 00:55:52,680 supermarket recently? 970 00:55:53,250 --> 00:55:55,290 John C Dvorak: I walked through regular old supermarkets all the 971 00:55:55,290 --> 00:55:56,280 time. It looks like 972 00:55:56,310 --> 00:55:59,880 Adam Curry: Disneyland. It's nothing but colored packages 973 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,660 with sugar and chemicals. People are eating chemicals and sugar 974 00:56:03,660 --> 00:56:08,040 all day long. And you think, oh, I want some good quality 975 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,760 chicken. Do you buy meat and chicken at the supermarket? 976 00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:15,030 John C Dvorak: I bought meat and chicken at the supermarket. I 977 00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:17,970 don't normally I usually just buy giant slabs of stuff. 978 00:56:18,030 --> 00:56:19,530 Adam Curry: Where do you buy Costco? 979 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,550 John C Dvorak: I buy Costco. Yeah, buy me a Costco. 980 00:56:23,580 --> 00:56:27,060 Adam Curry: You are a discerning consumer who's smart. You're 981 00:56:27,060 --> 00:56:30,180 also from the silent generation. You know, good 982 00:56:30,180 --> 00:56:32,610 John C Dvorak: fam. Not from the silent generation, my baby 983 00:56:32,610 --> 00:56:35,340 boomer, don't take me with them. I'm 984 00:56:35,340 --> 00:56:39,330 Adam Curry: sorry. Mistake mistake. I meant the boomer. Of 985 00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:43,380 course, you're smart. But the people who are eat it, people 986 00:56:43,380 --> 00:56:47,400 are eating junk. Their sugar addicts. They're gonna be Hey, 987 00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:51,090 have you tried this new chicken? It tastes great. Texture is 988 00:56:51,090 --> 00:56:51,660 fantastic. 989 00:56:52,050 --> 00:56:55,200 John C Dvorak: To the stock market and beyond meats. It's 990 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,890 comedy on me. So oh, here it is. Sorry, fake hamburger. 991 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,670 Adam Curry: They had electric vehicles in 1912. They just 992 00:57:02,670 --> 00:57:06,630 needed a reboot. They needed Elon, they didn't have Elon at 993 00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:10,440 the time that you cannot tell me that the electric vehicle has 994 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:19,980 been a great idea. Can you think so know 995 00:57:20,370 --> 00:57:23,310 John C Dvorak: what it would be if they did, they had the one 996 00:57:23,340 --> 00:57:25,770 that they use the technology which I think they're using in 997 00:57:25,770 --> 00:57:30,090 some parts of China, where you go, you take your electric 998 00:57:30,090 --> 00:57:35,400 vehicle, you drive into the recharging station, they swap 999 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,940 out your entire battery pack and put a new one in and you drive 1000 00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:40,200 off in 15 seconds. 1001 00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:44,130 Adam Curry: All right, fine, fine, fine. All of it sucks. It 1002 00:57:44,130 --> 00:57:53,160 sucks. It's no good. All right. I just hope people go to beef 1003 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,240 initiative.com. Everybody, make sure you find a rancher because 1004 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,510 it's coming. It's coming. And you know, this is this is my 1005 00:58:00,510 --> 00:58:04,530 favorite. So they had on Dean black some house representatives 1006 00:58:04,530 --> 00:58:09,600 probably from Florida. And on the off chance that I'm right. 1007 00:58:10,260 --> 00:58:15,420 And about what about lab meats? About people going? We're 1008 00:58:15,420 --> 00:58:17,250 John C Dvorak: gonna be lapping it up. Yes, 1009 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,950 Adam Curry: on the off chance, he brings up a really good 1010 00:58:19,950 --> 00:58:20,250 point. 1011 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,860 Unknown: There is a lot of research and development still 1012 00:58:22,860 --> 00:58:26,280 to be done. And I will agree that in order for it to be 1013 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,750 competitive, it would have to be scaled up. And if you scale this 1014 00:58:30,750 --> 00:58:33,900 up, that brings up my second objection, which pertains to 1015 00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:38,160 China. Look, Communist China and communist countries have a 1016 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,120 history of collectivizing agriculture and food production 1017 00:58:42,270 --> 00:58:45,900 and they use that to control their populations. And for this 1018 00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:50,760 to make sense it will have to be concentrated in large factories. 1019 00:58:51,210 --> 00:58:56,010 And look we are in a very tense geopolitical time with China, 1020 00:58:56,010 --> 00:59:00,840 North Korea, Iran. And if you concentrate your protein 1021 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,850 production in a few major factories you're a few missile 1022 00:59:05,850 --> 00:59:09,600 strikes from an instant famine. Yeah. 1023 00:59:10,590 --> 00:59:15,720 I like that. I like that. I like it a lot. I like it a lot. And 1024 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,240 Adam Curry: then I'll just play this final clip because anything 1025 00:59:18,270 --> 00:59:21,990 anything that comes from the Netherlands is dynamite. You 1026 00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:27,240 know, again, we're redefining protein. Of course I'm all in 1027 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,950 with you that no lab grown meat anything can have any of the 1028 00:59:31,950 --> 00:59:35,910 goodness that's inside actual animal protein I don't eat much 1029 00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:38,640 chicken at all I don't trust any chicken from anywhere. 1030 00:59:39,090 --> 00:59:41,730 John C Dvorak: I don't stress that a chicken I don't 1031 00:59:41,730 --> 00:59:44,280 Adam Curry: trust any Sam you trust salmon us trust salmon 1032 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,370 from anywhere I don't think so. We use what happened to Dame 1033 00:59:47,370 --> 00:59:52,050 Elise from She must have gone overboard members she was Alaska 1034 00:59:52,050 --> 00:59:56,430 she would send a salmon from time to time at least guard 1035 00:59:56,430 --> 00:59:59,970 garland Yarrow garlic yeah least garlic and garland otherwise 1036 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,470 Garling Garling 1037 01:00:01,830 --> 01:00:04,170 John C Dvorak: Well, whatever the case is, they are still up 1038 01:00:04,170 --> 01:00:07,590 in Port Angeles. I think they bailed out there overboard. We 1039 01:00:07,590 --> 01:00:10,560 haven't gotten into it. More importantly, we haven't received 1040 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,590 any lemon shallow for the last five years or 1041 01:00:13,620 --> 01:00:17,340 Adam Curry: more than that. Her limoncello was off the hook. It 1042 01:00:17,340 --> 01:00:22,830 was so good. Anyway, leave it to the the farmer list meat country 1043 01:00:23,070 --> 01:00:25,950 known as the Netherlands. This is really this is a marketing 1044 01:00:25,950 --> 01:00:31,200 campaign. Farmer list meat. Can you believe it? Instead of 1045 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,460 saying it's not actual meat, though, it's farmer list meat. 1046 01:00:35,970 --> 01:00:40,020 Don't just forget about the cow. We don't need to stupid farmer 1047 01:00:40,170 --> 01:00:45,210 is wooden shoes now and you want protein. Introducing the Dutch 1048 01:00:45,210 --> 01:00:46,470 bugs burgers. 1049 01:00:46,530 --> 01:00:49,350 Unknown: At first glance it looks like a normal hamburger. 1050 01:00:49,650 --> 01:00:53,100 But it's not just any old burger. Because half of the meat 1051 01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:56,610 patty consists of ground up insect larvae so Boksburg 1052 01:00:58,290 --> 01:01:00,810 nice flavor and I would definitely recommend it. 1053 01:01:02,250 --> 01:01:05,280 Adam Curry: It has nice meat flavor, so I'm going to eat is 1054 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,490 very good. I would recommend it to all my friends. It's 1055 01:01:08,490 --> 01:01:11,280 Unknown: a nice flavor and I would definitely recommend it to 1056 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:11,760 my friends. 1057 01:01:11,790 --> 01:01:15,240 The main ingredient and Barrows BOXBERGER is ground blesser 1058 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,780 mealworms, the larvae of the darkling beetle. The production 1059 01:01:18,780 --> 01:01:21,900 of the insect burgers begins here in the Dutch town of 1060 01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:25,170 Amarillo. The manufacturers have been breeding insects here for 1061 01:01:25,170 --> 01:01:30,570 about 40 years nearly as animal feed, give them cow feed and 1062 01:01:30,570 --> 01:01:33,300 afford the cosmetics industry. But recently they've been 1063 01:01:33,300 --> 01:01:36,420 producing more and more larvae for human consumption. He 1064 01:01:36,420 --> 01:01:39,060 performs regular checks on the quality. What do you 1065 01:01:39,060 --> 01:01:41,550 Adam Curry: think the difference is between larvae for animal 1066 01:01:41,550 --> 01:01:44,670 consumption and larvae for human consumption? Is there a 1067 01:01:44,670 --> 01:01:47,070 different process suddenly 1068 01:01:47,130 --> 01:01:48,840 John C Dvorak: is you're making me sick 1069 01:01:48,900 --> 01:01:52,140 Unknown: or larvae for human consumption he performs regular 1070 01:01:52,140 --> 01:01:55,590 checks on the quality of his worms. around 2 billion people 1071 01:01:55,590 --> 01:01:58,830 around the world eat insects daily, but it's still a big 1072 01:01:58,830 --> 01:02:01,710 taboo in Europe within five years. I think we all eat a 1073 01:02:02,340 --> 01:02:06,540 couple of times a year insects and worms are sustainable source 1074 01:02:06,540 --> 01:02:09,930 of energy containing 50% protein. They only need a 1075 01:02:09,930 --> 01:02:13,890 fraction of the space water and feed that breeding higher orders 1076 01:02:13,890 --> 01:02:17,160 of animals require their co2 emissions are minimal. The 1077 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,340 larvae live for three months in these boxes where they consume 1078 01:02:20,340 --> 01:02:23,700 grain. When they're large enough to be harvested. They're flash 1079 01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:27,660 frozen and shipped to customers. smocks Kramer and Barish. Ozel 1080 01:02:27,750 --> 01:02:31,110 are the founders of Lux burger, the founders first encountered 1081 01:02:31,140 --> 01:02:34,470 edible insects during a world trip seven years ago. That's how 1082 01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:36,630 they got the idea to start their business. When 1083 01:02:36,630 --> 01:02:39,630 we first told friends, family and acquaintances about our 1084 01:02:39,630 --> 01:02:42,990 idea, most of them said we were crazy that there's no way it 1085 01:02:42,990 --> 01:02:45,330 would work. In the meantime, everybody thinks what we're 1086 01:02:45,330 --> 01:02:48,900 doing is cool. And the next thing they say is hey, when can 1087 01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:50,190 we finally try it out the 1088 01:02:50,190 --> 01:02:54,000 ground veal words are mixed with peas water and a secret spice 1089 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,000 mixture burger will lead to the greatest meat being eaten that 1090 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,790 will be good for the environment because less grain will be used 1091 01:02:59,790 --> 01:03:03,690 for cattle feed. And the insects are also climate friendly. A few 1092 01:03:03,690 --> 01:03:07,020 restaurants in Belgium and the Netherlands already have Lux 1093 01:03:07,020 --> 01:03:10,650 burgers on their menu. Sonic hamburgers cost between 12 and 1094 01:03:10,650 --> 01:03:11,730 17 euros 1095 01:03:13,620 --> 01:03:17,040 Adam Curry: they cost a fortune they're going to be subsidized 1096 01:03:18,450 --> 01:03:22,230 John C Dvorak: your subsidize theory note to say is probably 1097 01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:25,140 the only thing that's gonna save this industry dollars. So it is 1098 01:03:25,980 --> 01:03:28,170 I'll give you a clip of the day for that one hour. Thank 1099 01:03:28,170 --> 01:03:33,600 Adam Curry: you. I found it by accident. Someone some ways 1100 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,600 John C Dvorak: the most disgusting disgusting Clip of 1101 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,180 the Day. And probably for a long time. 1102 01:03:39,210 --> 01:03:42,780 Adam Curry: Our future is in our future. Yes, they've been 1103 01:03:42,780 --> 01:03:43,290 promising 1104 01:03:43,290 --> 01:03:45,450 John C Dvorak: they they've been threatening us with this 1105 01:03:45,450 --> 01:03:50,880 forever. Oh Carson shows I've been watching and they've talked 1106 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:51,390 about it and 1107 01:03:51,780 --> 01:03:55,710 Adam Curry: all we do is live all we do is laugh then that one 1108 01:03:55,710 --> 01:03:57,000 day you're gonna wake up 1109 01:03:57,030 --> 01:03:59,160 John C Dvorak: one day you're gonna wake up and you're still 1110 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,500 not gonna eat. Mr. Devore. I'm 1111 01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:04,200 Adam Curry: sorry, you can't buy any beef on your credit card 1112 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:09,510 because you drove a Lexus. An old one a dirt as a motor at a 1113 01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:14,250 dirty motorized Lexus, Mr. Dvorak. Do you know how much 1114 01:04:14,250 --> 01:04:17,400 improvement we've made on the Lexus in the 25 years since you 1115 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,660 bought that vehicle? Mr. Devore. You are a dirty polluter. Carbon 1116 01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:22,590 criminal. 1117 01:04:23,130 --> 01:04:24,930 John C Dvorak: Your current criminal that's another good 1118 01:04:24,930 --> 01:04:25,590 show title. I'm 1119 01:04:25,590 --> 01:04:28,980 Adam Curry: just rocking it today. You're a carbon carbon 1120 01:04:28,980 --> 01:04:32,340 criminal. And then I'm sorry, it won't work. 1121 01:04:35,220 --> 01:04:40,860 John C Dvorak: Well, I have the cars built before they put in 1122 01:04:40,860 --> 01:04:44,400 the advices that could not be remotely shut you down. I know 1123 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,280 Adam Curry: they're coming. They're coming for you. They're 1124 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,750 coming for you. And anyway, um, that's it's just a it's just a 1125 01:04:51,750 --> 01:04:56,160 little just a little All I'm saying is get to know a rancher 1126 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,730 somewhere because when it comes down to it, here we go again. It 1127 01:04:59,730 --> 01:05:01,470 looks no money in this for me. 1128 01:05:02,010 --> 01:05:03,810 John C Dvorak: There's no we notice you get free meat. 1129 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,500 Adam Curry: No I do not. I tell you you should go to deal 1130 01:05:08,070 --> 01:05:10,710 because I'm not like that ranchers can't get 1131 01:05:10,710 --> 01:05:14,010 John C Dvorak: away not like that. No, I'm not. No, that's 1132 01:05:14,010 --> 01:05:15,300 how you and I differ. 1133 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,350 Unknown: Okay, point made 1134 01:05:21,540 --> 01:05:24,120 Adam Curry: I just want you to know there's there's no benefit 1135 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,320 to me and if there's no benefit to Texas slim or anybody else, 1136 01:05:28,860 --> 01:05:31,650 the ranchers are running at capacity so you better get in 1137 01:05:31,650 --> 01:05:36,180 while stocks last. Otherwise you're just going to be over 1138 01:05:39,510 --> 01:05:46,290 okay, I mean, I'm just here to help people. First Law first law 1139 01:05:46,290 --> 01:05:48,810 have no agenda here to help people. Yeah, 1140 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,730 John C Dvorak: I think that is the first law have no agenda to 1141 01:05:50,730 --> 01:05:55,260 help people. All right. But I got a bunch of different things. 1142 01:05:55,260 --> 01:05:58,740 I got Russia versus the Falun Gong, which I thought was funny. 1143 01:05:59,610 --> 01:06:03,420 I got bank laundering I was another bank caught being a 1144 01:06:03,450 --> 01:06:07,680 money laundering operation. Oh, that's you like that? Yeah. Like 1145 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,270 yeah, of course. Since about it. Why did he is that your exit 1146 01:06:12,270 --> 01:06:13,200 strategy? Why do 1147 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,420 Adam Curry: these guys launder it when you can just print it 1148 01:06:15,510 --> 01:06:17,760 and just make some for yourself and take it home? 1149 01:06:18,810 --> 01:06:21,540 John C Dvorak: Yeah, this TD Bank of all places, which 1150 01:06:21,570 --> 01:06:23,520 Adam Curry: is that tweet from TD America 1151 01:06:24,660 --> 01:06:28,050 John C Dvorak: which is from TD America or not? Okay, play it. 1152 01:06:28,170 --> 01:06:32,250 Adam Curry: TD Bank hoping China launder fentanyl money. 1153 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,280 According to the Justice Department. The Wall Street 1154 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,540 Journal reports an operation was uncovered in New York and New 1155 01:06:39,540 --> 01:06:43,110 Jersey which laundered hundreds of millions of dollars in 1156 01:06:43,110 --> 01:06:48,420 illegal drug money via TD Bank and other banks. This is TD I 1157 01:06:48,420 --> 01:06:53,760 knew I recognize it from my day trading days. TD is from td td 1158 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:58,290 ameritrade and I believe they've been purchased by Wells Fargo 1159 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,860 and they had their they had their headquarters in New 1160 01:07:01,860 --> 01:07:03,600 Jersey. These these these guys. 1161 01:07:04,290 --> 01:07:06,060 John C Dvorak: Let me see if they are owned by 1162 01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:10,530 Adam Curry: Wells Fargo. So I think you know they're in Cherry 1163 01:07:10,530 --> 01:07:14,250 John C Dvorak: Hill New Jersey. Wells Fargo is the was the 1164 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,520 they're owned by Toronto Dominion that's outdoor T D 1165 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:18,210 comes from. 1166 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,970 Adam Curry: I thought that someone bought the MCC I could 1167 01:07:20,970 --> 01:07:24,180 be wrong. This is according to court files. And people in the 1168 01:07:24,180 --> 01:07:27,810 know Chinese wondering Charles Schwab Charles Schwab. I know 1169 01:07:27,810 --> 01:07:30,090 that Charles Schwab bought their trading operation I don't know 1170 01:07:30,090 --> 01:07:32,760 if they bought the bank is according to court files. And 1171 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,400 people in the know Chinese wondering money laundering 1172 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,100 organizations have gotten very good at shielding ill gotten 1173 01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:41,850 gains. These organizations launder cartel cash quicker and 1174 01:07:41,850 --> 01:07:45,510 cheaper than competitors, often with a money back guarantee 1175 01:07:45,570 --> 01:07:49,050 during a hearing on Chinese money laundering Tuesday right 1176 01:07:49,050 --> 01:07:52,590 Senator Sheldon Whitehouse said that Chinese money laundering 1177 01:07:52,590 --> 01:07:57,150 organizations work with Mexican cartels to move fentanyl 1178 01:07:57,150 --> 01:08:02,310 profits. The Journal reports according to court files in 2021 1179 01:08:02,490 --> 01:08:06,720 federal agents followed suspects through New York City streets as 1180 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:11,970 they carry giant bags of cash to bank and on occasion, David 1181 01:08:11,970 --> 01:08:15,180 caught suspects bribing TD employees, 1182 01:08:15,270 --> 01:08:18,840 Unknown: they can, you know make them look the other way. When 1183 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:23,190 opening bank accounts using a fictitious high quality Chinese 1184 01:08:23,190 --> 01:08:24,390 passports. federal 1185 01:08:24,389 --> 01:08:27,989 Adam Curry: investigator Ricardo mayoral told lawmakers he's 1186 01:08:28,019 --> 01:08:31,799 often seen these organizations engaging in bribery, which 1187 01:08:31,799 --> 01:08:36,899 bypasses traditional detection systems. So these guys also, 1188 01:08:37,259 --> 01:08:42,299 they own the Nordstrom credit card. They own the target credit 1189 01:08:42,299 --> 01:08:47,129 card. This is quite the operation. I'm digging this 1190 01:08:47,970 --> 01:08:50,910 John C Dvorak: in for it and 50 billion in assets. And 1191 01:08:51,060 --> 01:08:54,420 Adam Curry: what's this anywhere on the quote unquote, mainstream 1192 01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:59,100 news I have not heard of this. at all in the Justice Department 1193 01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:04,020 probe, the Chinese laundering organization offered $57,000 in 1194 01:09:04,020 --> 01:09:08,400 bribes to TD employees. This included gift cards, the 1195 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:14,490 organization moved at least $653 million to 1000s of entities in 1196 01:09:14,490 --> 01:09:18,780 the US and Hong Kong. According to court documents. The Justice 1197 01:09:18,780 --> 01:09:22,140 Department is also investigating TD Bank for three other 1198 01:09:22,140 --> 01:09:26,280 instances of money laundering, a Canadian regulator find it 1199 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:31,410 nearly $7 million on Wednesday, TD Bank said Thursday it's 1200 01:09:31,410 --> 01:09:35,310 cooperating with law enforcement and strengthening its anti money 1201 01:09:35,340 --> 01:09:39,330 laundering program. Yeah, but people people buying a $3 of 1202 01:09:39,330 --> 01:09:43,320 Bitcoin go arrest them, please because you know that's how 1203 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:48,240 criminals operate. Ignore the guys with the fake passports 1204 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:54,060 carrying bags of money down the street. The American dollar is 1205 01:09:54,060 --> 01:09:59,280 still the best for corruption. It's still the best criminal 1206 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,600 activity with the Best, 1207 01:10:00,630 --> 01:10:02,370 John C Dvorak: it's the bet. Well, you've always had this 1208 01:10:02,370 --> 01:10:06,330 thesis and I kind of agree with it is very much proven true in 1209 01:10:06,330 --> 01:10:10,740 the first Cocaine Cowboys movie which people should see great 1210 01:10:10,740 --> 01:10:13,530 movie was discussed the fact that half the banks in Florida 1211 01:10:13,530 --> 01:10:16,920 were more or less supported as money laundering operations for 1212 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,280 the cocaine trade back in the 70s. And 80s. Great, 1213 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:24,210 Adam Curry: great, great movie. Yes, it's a great, great base of 1214 01:10:24,210 --> 01:10:26,970 recommender as a recommender for a second version, 1215 01:10:26,970 --> 01:10:27,810 John C Dvorak: not so much. 1216 01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:31,890 Adam Curry: I never even watch that. Just the original. 1217 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,630 John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh days money laundering. Yes. We're 1218 01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:38,490 back major bank, not a slouch, but 1219 01:10:38,490 --> 01:10:41,280 Adam Curry: old school with bags of cash. I mean, you've gotta 1220 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,150 hand it to them that that's that's very good. I like it. 1221 01:10:45,210 --> 01:10:46,110 Good work, boys. 1222 01:10:47,610 --> 01:10:50,280 John C Dvorak: What else you got? Well, we have another 1223 01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:52,920 congressman to talk about corruption. I think this is the 1224 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,520 Congressman that was caught VMC it's an OTC Yeah. This 1225 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,370 Adam Curry: is why it's one of ours. One of our Texas homeboys. 1226 01:10:59,370 --> 01:10:59,910 Democratic 1227 01:10:59,910 --> 01:11:02,790 Unknown: Congressman Henry Cuellar of Texas and his wife 1228 01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:06,480 have been indicted on conspiracy and bribery charges. The Justice 1229 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:08,910 Department says the case involves the couple's ties to 1230 01:11:08,910 --> 01:11:12,600 Mexico and Azerbaijan. The indictment says Quasar and his 1231 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:16,830 wife accepted nearly $600,000 in bribes from an Azerbaijan 1232 01:11:16,830 --> 01:11:20,640 controlled energy company and a bank in Mexico from 2014 to 1233 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,270 2021. And exchange were allegedly agreed to help 1234 01:11:24,270 --> 01:11:28,080 Azerbaijan and the Mexican bank by advancing their interests in 1235 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,380 Congress. Were was at one time the co chair of the 1236 01:11:31,380 --> 01:11:35,520 congressional Azerbaijan caucus. And Diane says Claire agreed to 1237 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:39,030 influence bills favorable to Azerbaijan and deliver a pro 1238 01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:43,470 Azerbaijan speech on the House floor. Federal disclosures show 1239 01:11:43,470 --> 01:11:44,910 that the Congressman traveled to 1240 01:11:46,350 --> 01:11:48,210 Adam Curry: excellent This is excellent is this is 1241 01:11:48,210 --> 01:11:53,190 John C Dvorak: a guy quit er who is Mexican American. Yeah. Or 1242 01:11:53,190 --> 01:11:56,460 just American. But he's, yeah, he's really closer to Mexico 1243 01:11:56,460 --> 01:12:00,390 than he's in Texas. And he somehow is representing 1244 01:12:00,420 --> 01:12:03,900 Azerbaijan. And nobody's a little bit what what's going on 1245 01:12:03,900 --> 01:12:04,620 with this guy? 1246 01:12:04,650 --> 01:12:06,990 Adam Curry: Because everyone in Congress is on the take 1247 01:12:06,990 --> 01:12:11,640 somewhere? Yes, well, it looks like and what I would hope is 1248 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,210 that people who just meme about this and of course, there's a 1249 01:12:15,210 --> 01:12:19,320 lot of a lot of people who are not fans of the Democrat Party, 1250 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,890 go do that know what it is corrupt people, once you go and 1251 01:12:22,890 --> 01:12:23,520 vote 1252 01:12:24,540 --> 01:12:26,910 John C Dvorak: going below the Republicans who are in the same, 1253 01:12:27,450 --> 01:12:30,600 the Republicans who voted for the big bill and all the rest of 1254 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:30,930 it. I 1255 01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:34,530 Unknown: want to talk about that too. Well, disclosers, a show 1256 01:12:34,530 --> 01:12:38,610 that the Congressman traveled to Azerbaijan and 2013 Two years 1257 01:12:38,610 --> 01:12:42,120 later, quasars office announced an agreement between a Texas 1258 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,510 University and an organization called the assembly of friends 1259 01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:48,540 of Azerbaijan. The Justice Department to the couple 1260 01:12:48,540 --> 01:12:52,530 surrender to authorities today, and were taken into custody. 1261 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,280 Adam Curry: But see, this is actually a follow up this. This 1262 01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:01,560 is the whole thing. It's like when someone is hanging out with 1263 01:13:01,650 --> 01:13:06,780 the representatives from Azerbaijan. I mean, what how is 1264 01:13:06,780 --> 01:13:10,470 this the people's business? The people of Texas? How is it 1265 01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:13,200 helping? How is it helping the people of Texas? 1266 01:13:13,290 --> 01:13:15,540 John C Dvorak: Have you made a relationship between University 1267 01:13:15,540 --> 01:13:18,090 of Texas and a school in Azerbaijan? I mean, there's 1268 01:13:18,090 --> 01:13:19,800 something there, please. 1269 01:13:20,130 --> 01:13:23,190 Adam Curry: So you remember Gallagher, Representative Mike 1270 01:13:23,190 --> 01:13:28,170 Gallagher? He's the one that introduced the original let 1271 01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:29,670 steel tic toc bill. 1272 01:13:30,780 --> 01:13:33,510 John C Dvorak: Yes. And he had y'all remember, and he had a lot 1273 01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:33,630 of 1274 01:13:33,660 --> 01:13:36,690 Adam Curry: lobbying money from Google. And so I've been waiting 1275 01:13:36,690 --> 01:13:40,140 to see where he shows up, because he said he was going to 1276 01:13:40,140 --> 01:13:47,370 resign, actually. He, he rescinded that. And he says, no, 1277 01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:52,890 no, no, I'm going to resign. So he's going to resign on April 1278 01:13:52,890 --> 01:13:58,290 19. But he moved his resignation to April 20. So that he 1279 01:13:58,290 --> 01:14:00,900 John C Dvorak: could wait that when some stock options expire? 1280 01:14:00,930 --> 01:14:01,590 No, 1281 01:14:01,740 --> 01:14:07,410 Adam Curry: that was when we had the TIC tock bill included in 1282 01:14:07,410 --> 01:14:12,540 the military industrial complex, defense industrial base bill, 1283 01:14:12,930 --> 01:14:19,920 the $100,000,000,000.95 96 Give or take for Ukraine, Israel, 1284 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:26,970 Taiwan. So it was so important for him to vote. And guess where 1285 01:14:26,970 --> 01:14:32,340 he shows up? He just got a job at Palantir a fine Military 1286 01:14:32,340 --> 01:14:36,960 Industrial Complex company. And that's how it works. 1287 01:14:37,650 --> 01:14:39,330 John C Dvorak: I ran into something the other day it was 1288 01:14:39,330 --> 01:14:41,250 sponsored by Palantir. And I'm thinking 1289 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:46,650 Adam Curry: I'm spook and here and here we are trying to make 1290 01:14:46,650 --> 01:14:48,870 some money with this with an award show. 1291 01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:51,630 John C Dvorak: I mean, we're Yeah, but it's gonna be a 1292 01:14:51,630 --> 01:14:53,730 winner. It's gonna be a winner jury. 1293 01:14:55,140 --> 01:14:58,020 Adam Curry: We're doing it all the wrong way. I have a CBS 1294 01:14:58,290 --> 01:15:00,480 John C Dvorak: reporter we wanted to be a couple of corrupt 1295 01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:03,630 jerk offs. Yeah, we could go do anything we wanted. But now 1296 01:15:03,660 --> 01:15:07,140 let's talk about the set. This is more fun and people 1297 01:15:07,140 --> 01:15:07,890 appreciate it. 1298 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,530 Adam Curry: It is I was I have a lot more for you imagine having 1299 01:15:10,530 --> 01:15:16,440 to be a crook having to be a criminal. I mean, like, hide 1300 01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:19,620 money and shell companies and being in 1301 01:15:19,620 --> 01:15:23,220 John C Dvorak: helping you like this quasar guy. He got his wife 1302 01:15:23,220 --> 01:15:25,860 arrested. Well, that's what you do. That's what 1303 01:15:26,340 --> 01:15:27,090 Adam Curry: I mean. Take your 1304 01:15:27,090 --> 01:15:29,310 John C Dvorak: wife with her. I'd taken everybody with me. All 1305 01:15:29,310 --> 01:15:31,440 my relatives are going down ultimately 1306 01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:34,140 Adam Curry: that what's the Congressman Bob? What's his 1307 01:15:34,140 --> 01:15:38,280 name? The other Caribbean? Yeah, he threw his wife out there. 1308 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:42,120 Hey, hey, she set it up. Where she did 1309 01:15:42,150 --> 01:15:43,950 John C Dvorak: his wife under the bus here, which 1310 01:15:43,950 --> 01:15:47,430 Adam Curry: she did. Yes. Awesome. All right. Let's talk 1311 01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:52,470 about because, you know, obviously Mike Johnson got he 1312 01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:57,780 got the blame for I guess the blame for everything. But then 1313 01:15:58,140 --> 01:16:04,320 the besides us bringing this bill to the floor for for the 1314 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,860 aid to Israel, which is the the big was the big problem. Then 1315 01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:11,550 they said and you're not done, son go out there and talk about 1316 01:16:11,550 --> 01:16:16,710 anti semitism being unAmerican. And we need we need a bill. We 1317 01:16:16,710 --> 01:16:20,220 need a big virtue signal bill we need so I got some clips. I got 1318 01:16:20,250 --> 01:16:24,120 I got a couple two, I'd like to hear yours. Because no matter 1319 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:28,470 what side of the debate you stand on, Congress shall make no 1320 01:16:28,470 --> 01:16:33,420 law. What is the actual term to 1321 01:16:34,110 --> 01:16:36,000 John C Dvorak: look at? Short and sweet? Yeah, 1322 01:16:36,390 --> 01:16:41,130 Adam Curry: this is an actual term. It's not it's not in 1323 01:16:41,130 --> 01:16:47,610 French is in French? It's I think it's in French. Congress 1324 01:16:47,610 --> 01:16:51,420 shall make no law now see if I can get the Congress shall make 1325 01:16:51,450 --> 01:16:54,510 respecting us prohibiting the free exercise thereof or 1326 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,390 abridging I'm sorry, of course, I should have no abridging 1327 01:16:57,930 --> 01:17:02,280 abridging the freedom of speech or the right of the press or the 1328 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:06,240 right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the 1329 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,870 government for a redress of grievances. You know what, while 1330 01:17:09,870 --> 01:17:13,590 we're on this before, before we go anywhere, since we're on the 1331 01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:18,690 First Amendment, again, Congress shall make no law respecting an 1332 01:17:18,690 --> 01:17:24,900 establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise 1333 01:17:24,900 --> 01:17:27,840 thereof. This is the Establishment Clause, which has 1334 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:33,270 been misconstrued into separation of church and state. 1335 01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:37,350 And would you know it, there's an ad out there, there's some 1336 01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:40,530 group that is trying to promote this, this podcast is brought to 1337 01:17:40,530 --> 01:17:43,800 you by Americans United for Separation of church and state. 1338 01:17:43,890 --> 01:17:47,310 For more than 75 years, Americans United has defended 1339 01:17:47,310 --> 01:17:50,760 your freedom to live as yourself and believe as you choose, so 1340 01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,240 long as you don't harm others. Core freedoms like abortion 1341 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,690 rights, marriage equality, public education, and even 1342 01:17:57,690 --> 01:18:01,230 democracy itself rests upon the wall of separation between 1343 01:18:01,230 --> 01:18:03,960 church and state, white Christian nationalists, 1344 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,740 attacking these freedoms have forced us all to live by their 1345 01:18:07,740 --> 01:18:11,190 narrow beliefs, right? Americans United is fighting back freedom 1346 01:18:11,190 --> 01:18:14,850 without favor and equality without exception. Learn more 1347 01:18:14,850 --> 01:18:19,020 about a US work at au.org/nbc. 1348 01:18:20,250 --> 01:18:24,120 John C Dvorak: called ABC. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. NBC Pomi slash 1349 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:25,230 NBC. Yeah. 1350 01:18:25,410 --> 01:18:28,590 Adam Curry: Because this runs on NBC podcasts. It's 1351 01:18:28,590 --> 01:18:31,500 John C Dvorak: an NBC podcast, atheist podcast, there's the 1352 01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:35,490 atheist podcast, by the way, of course. I'm not you know, anti 1353 01:18:35,490 --> 01:18:39,120 Christian nationalists by any means. You are I'm not and I 1354 01:18:39,150 --> 01:18:42,120 tell you this rich I was asked by atheists a mile away. 1355 01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:48,510 Adam Curry: Code bond Gino. Cool. So anyway, so the 1356 01:18:48,510 --> 01:18:53,040 abridging of what this the way I understand it, and I have a 1357 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,610 couple clips too, but I want to hear yours first. This 1358 01:18:56,910 --> 01:19:00,870 resolution, which really only results in boy do we need 1359 01:19:00,870 --> 01:19:03,990 Chevron Chevron deference to come to the Supreme Court soon 1360 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:11,070 resulted in a proposal for the Department of Education to adapt 1361 01:19:11,370 --> 01:19:15,120 title six, very similar to what they did with Title Nine where 1362 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:19,830 they said hey, you know, what? Is gender whatever you identify 1363 01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:22,590 as you can't be discriminated against. So yeah, dudes, you can 1364 01:19:22,590 --> 01:19:26,160 go into the women's locker room and toilets and all that. And 1365 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:31,980 Title six, has now defined what anti semitism is, and then they 1366 01:19:32,010 --> 01:19:35,190 bundle that all up, including the illegal chants, which we 1367 01:19:35,190 --> 01:19:39,480 discussed, because somehow saying from the river to the 1368 01:19:39,480 --> 01:19:45,420 sea, Palestine will be free, is dangerous, very dangerous, then 1369 01:19:45,420 --> 01:19:48,180 it could spark something horrible and it's like yelling 1370 01:19:48,180 --> 01:19:52,140 fire in a crowded theater, or it's fighting words or somehow 1371 01:19:52,140 --> 01:19:56,460 they've determined that they can write regulations. It's not even 1372 01:19:56,460 --> 01:20:00,060 a law but regulations against this type of speech and I I 1373 01:20:00,060 --> 01:20:03,450 don't think either one of us feel that that is a good idea or 1374 01:20:03,450 --> 01:20:09,960 constitutional. I would agree. So where did you get some clips 1375 01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:10,590 from and what 1376 01:20:10,590 --> 01:20:12,270 John C Dvorak: do I got these clips? This is one of those 1377 01:20:12,270 --> 01:20:17,460 discussions that take place on NTD would they bring a guy in in 1378 01:20:17,460 --> 01:20:21,060 the yak, yak yak about, about this particular thing with some 1379 01:20:21,060 --> 01:20:24,990 ideas? I only clip these because there's points of interest in 1380 01:20:24,990 --> 01:20:27,510 here. Here we go. This is 1381 01:20:27,540 --> 01:20:28,710 Unknown: in di D. 1382 01:20:28,770 --> 01:20:32,100 Joining me now to discuss the act is Jonathan Hoolahan, 1383 01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:35,100 General Counsel and Director of Legal operations at Citizens 1384 01:20:35,100 --> 01:20:37,740 defending freedom. Jonathan, thanks for joining us. Good to 1385 01:20:37,740 --> 01:20:40,260 see you again. Now. The House passed the anti semitism 1386 01:20:40,260 --> 01:20:43,230 awareness act in a bipartisan vote. It's now waiting in the 1387 01:20:43,230 --> 01:20:46,410 Senate. Now Congressman Mike Lawler who introduced the bill 1388 01:20:46,410 --> 01:20:50,070 said on the House floor quote, It is absurd to oppose this, 1389 01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:53,250 that it somehow limits free speech, adding that calling for 1390 01:20:53,250 --> 01:20:57,240 death to Jews isn't protected speech, it's anti semitic. What 1391 01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,460 is your analysis of this bill? 1392 01:20:59,580 --> 01:21:01,800 Well, this is an interesting bill. I mean, you have 1393 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,220 conservatives and progressives that really band together in a 1394 01:21:05,220 --> 01:21:08,490 lot of circumstances under the banner of free speech, which I 1395 01:21:08,490 --> 01:21:11,700 agree in some circumstances, and here's why. I mean, if you look 1396 01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:15,210 at the Constitution, First Amendment, Congress shall make 1397 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:20,070 no law abridging the freedom of the press, or freedom of speech. 1398 01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:24,450 So that's the first amendment. Some of the critics of this bill 1399 01:21:24,450 --> 01:21:27,420 have said it's too broad for each free speech will be 1400 01:21:27,420 --> 01:21:31,410 chilled. And it really is outside the boundaries of the 1401 01:21:31,410 --> 01:21:35,220 First Amendment. That being said, this is really content 1402 01:21:35,220 --> 01:21:38,790 based restriction. And that's okay sometimes, right. Why 1403 01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:43,860 there's obscenity, advocacy for breaking laws, convincing people 1404 01:21:43,860 --> 01:21:47,940 to break laws commit mayhem, all of those things are exceptions 1405 01:21:47,940 --> 01:21:51,300 to the to the First Amendment. I'm sorry, 1406 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:52,710 Adam Curry: who is this? 1407 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,770 John C Dvorak: He had to back it up again. I didn't write it 1408 01:21:55,770 --> 01:21:56,100 down. 1409 01:21:56,130 --> 01:21:58,410 Adam Curry: Oh, how is this an exception to the First 1410 01:21:58,410 --> 01:21:59,100 Amendment? 1411 01:21:59,850 --> 01:22:02,220 John C Dvorak: He said the deception the first amendments 1412 01:22:02,220 --> 01:22:06,420 are things like threatening somebody sending you know doing 1413 01:22:06,630 --> 01:22:10,470 advocating riots. Yeah, but those are all exceptions. Yeah. 1414 01:22:10,470 --> 01:22:12,570 First Amendment then he went into a whole bunch of other 1415 01:22:12,570 --> 01:22:16,650 things. I thought they were all part of the I think they're all 1416 01:22:16,650 --> 01:22:20,040 exceptions to the First Amendment, which is an extension 1417 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,910 of yelling fire in a theater but you can't you know, threaten 1418 01:22:23,910 --> 01:22:28,140 somebody's life. You can't these are all First Amendment issues. 1419 01:22:28,170 --> 01:22:28,530 Right. But 1420 01:22:28,530 --> 01:22:31,020 Unknown: listen here, but he says content based restriction 1421 01:22:31,230 --> 01:22:34,530 and that's okay. Sometimes right. Whether it's obscenity, 1422 01:22:34,590 --> 01:22:35,700 obscenities, 1423 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,400 John C Dvorak: obscenity, obscenity used to be against the 1424 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,580 law, and it's not will you know, that's a first that's 1425 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:42,630 obscenities 1426 01:22:42,690 --> 01:22:45,480 Adam Curry: obscenities, you're you're the biggest violator. 1427 01:22:46,140 --> 01:22:46,620 What 1428 01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:51,480 Unknown: is advocacy for breaking laws, convincing people 1429 01:22:51,480 --> 01:22:55,800 to break laws, commit mayhem, all commitment. Those things are 1430 01:22:55,800 --> 01:23:00,930 exceptions to the to the First Amendment fighting words piling 1431 01:23:00,930 --> 01:23:04,440 so it kind of falls in that bucket. Now, the issue is, is 1432 01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:08,310 this content based restriction with this bill narrowly tailored 1433 01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:10,350 to a compelling government interest, that's kind of the 1434 01:23:10,350 --> 01:23:14,040 case law where it falls. And I would say I would agree that it 1435 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:17,850 is a little broad using this definition. And they should 1436 01:23:17,970 --> 01:23:21,360 tailor it down a little more narrow. To be very specific that 1437 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,640 these fightin words are calling for criminal activity. What 1438 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:28,110 we've seen on these campuses is inherent it's, it's not free 1439 01:23:28,110 --> 01:23:32,760 speech, it's violent, it's not letting Jewish students pass all 1440 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,460 of those things are not protected speech. So I get the 1441 01:23:35,460 --> 01:23:37,890 aim of the bill but we got to be very careful when the government 1442 01:23:37,890 --> 01:23:40,980 is trying to compel some some type of content based 1443 01:23:40,980 --> 01:23:44,550 Adam Curry: restriction. Alright, so let's just let's 1444 01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:47,490 just break this one down for one second. From the river to the 1445 01:23:47,490 --> 01:23:51,900 sea Palestine will be free. Do you feel that that is a fighting 1446 01:23:51,900 --> 01:23:54,930 word? That is a call to 1447 01:23:55,230 --> 01:23:58,740 John C Dvorak: do I feel that way? No. Okay. I'm not Jewish. 1448 01:23:59,190 --> 01:24:02,730 Yeah, does that I can assume that some Jew Jewish people 1449 01:24:02,730 --> 01:24:04,650 might feel that way. Okay. 1450 01:24:04,710 --> 01:24:07,620 Adam Curry: They can feel bad about it. But that's 1451 01:24:09,090 --> 01:24:10,440 John C Dvorak: your feeling. Oh, 1452 01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:12,840 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I misunderstood it's about hurt 1453 01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:13,620 feelings I got 1454 01:24:13,650 --> 01:24:16,260 Unknown: expanding on the critics side, Congressman Jerry 1455 01:24:16,260 --> 01:24:19,050 Nadler called the built misguided adding that by 1456 01:24:19,050 --> 01:24:22,680 effectively codifying those examples into title six, the 1457 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,530 measure threatens to chill constitutionally protected 1458 01:24:25,530 --> 01:24:28,770 speech speech that is critical of Israel alone does not 1459 01:24:28,770 --> 01:24:31,380 constitute wrongful discrimination. Help us 1460 01:24:31,410 --> 01:24:34,140 understand the title six that's referenced here. 1461 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,240 Well, yeah, I never thought I'd agree with Congressman Nadler on 1462 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:43,200 much so but under Title six of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, 1463 01:24:43,290 --> 01:24:46,860 that ensures university or college programs or activities 1464 01:24:46,860 --> 01:24:49,470 that receive federal funding do not discriminate based on 1465 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,550 national origin, ancestry characteristics, those type 1466 01:24:53,550 --> 01:24:57,090 things. So under Title six, those schools are already 1467 01:24:57,090 --> 01:24:59,280 supposed to be doing that. So for example, if they have these 1468 01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:03,120 groups They're calling for violence, they're calling for 1469 01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:06,600 death, Israel, all of these really horrible things, then 1470 01:25:06,630 --> 01:25:09,600 those groups shouldn't be allowed to exist on campus, they 1471 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,540 should be investigated and expelled because they're trying 1472 01:25:12,540 --> 01:25:16,860 to further a criminal act of getting getting these, you know, 1473 01:25:16,890 --> 01:25:19,980 intimidating students those type of things. So they shouldn't be 1474 01:25:19,980 --> 01:25:22,230 tolerated in the first place, because it goes beyond first 1475 01:25:22,500 --> 01:25:26,790 amendment rights. So I do agree that title six is a mechanism 1476 01:25:26,910 --> 01:25:29,910 already that already has mechanisms that can be enforced 1477 01:25:30,030 --> 01:25:32,970 without adding to it. And I would be very concerned about 1478 01:25:32,970 --> 01:25:36,600 giving the department education more authority. Look, we've 1479 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,570 already seen what the department education has done with with 1480 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,060 gender. I mean, they redefine gender. So we're gonna give the 1481 01:25:42,060 --> 01:25:47,100 department education more authority to to investigate 1482 01:25:47,610 --> 01:25:50,940 students, when they clearly can't even get biological sex, 1483 01:25:50,940 --> 01:25:51,390 correct. 1484 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,140 Adam Curry: Okay. All right. Well, good. he redeems himself a 1485 01:25:55,140 --> 01:26:04,500 little bit here. Yeah. So we have a gabot with his packs in 1486 01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:07,080 his Attorney General packs and packs and the attorney general. 1487 01:26:07,410 --> 01:26:11,100 Yeah. So he's suing over Title Nine and say, Now, we're not 1488 01:26:11,100 --> 01:26:13,890 going to adhere to that. We're just not going to do that. No, 1489 01:26:13,890 --> 01:26:18,420 no, no. And then in the same breath is like, May is Israel 1490 01:26:18,420 --> 01:26:26,310 Awareness Month like Ah okay, okay. All right. Let me see what 1491 01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:27,600 this guy winds up with on 1492 01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,540 Unknown: that no Congresswoman Harriet hegman says the bill 1493 01:26:30,540 --> 01:26:34,170 provides no actual relief for terrorized Jewish students and 1494 01:26:34,170 --> 01:26:37,200 infringes on the First Amendment. Washington poses 1495 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,990 saying the bill would create a clear definition of anti 1496 01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:43,830 semitism and US law and then enable the education department 1497 01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:47,400 to cut off funding to economic institutions that are found to 1498 01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:51,330 tolerate such behavior. Based on that definition. Do you think 1499 01:26:51,330 --> 01:26:54,720 the bill will effectively address anti semitism on 1500 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:55,680 campuses? 1501 01:26:55,710 --> 01:26:58,950 Well, not not particularly I think what will will address 1502 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,420 anti semitism is having Chancellor's and university 1503 01:27:03,420 --> 01:27:06,630 presidents enforce the law, and not a lot allow these things to 1504 01:27:06,630 --> 01:27:10,020 get out of hand by enabling the department education to give 1505 01:27:10,020 --> 01:27:12,780 them more authority. Again, Congress delegating their 1506 01:27:12,780 --> 01:27:15,810 authority to unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats to 1507 01:27:15,810 --> 01:27:18,870 conduct investigations is not the answer. When the answer is 1508 01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:21,150 the rule of law and using the tools that are already in the 1509 01:27:21,150 --> 01:27:26,010 toolkit. It is not lawful to prevent students of Jewish 1510 01:27:26,010 --> 01:27:29,340 ancestry to go to class, it is not lawful to threaten or 1511 01:27:29,340 --> 01:27:32,730 intimidate. So there are laws on the books, and these 1512 01:27:32,730 --> 01:27:35,850 Chancellor's. And presidents of these universities need to show 1513 01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:39,150 leadership and show courage. And doing the right thing is not 1514 01:27:39,150 --> 01:27:42,330 always easy. But they need to do the right thing here. I'm just 1515 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,510 very skeptical, skeptical of giving the department education, 1516 01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:49,380 more authority, more deference, especially when it comes to our 1517 01:27:49,380 --> 01:27:51,150 constitutional rights. Oh, he 1518 01:27:51,150 --> 01:27:52,770 Adam Curry: says the word deference. 1519 01:27:53,070 --> 01:27:53,550 John C Dvorak: Yeah, 1520 01:27:53,610 --> 01:27:55,710 Adam Curry: I like that. Okay, he's 1521 01:27:55,710 --> 01:27:57,090 John C Dvorak: back in your good graces we 1522 01:27:57,090 --> 01:28:00,510 Adam Curry: turd. We totally need to we need I was talking 1523 01:28:00,510 --> 01:28:03,090 to, you know, who came through town the other day, we had 1524 01:28:03,090 --> 01:28:06,810 dinner, some drinks for his birthday was the oil baron. 1525 01:28:07,650 --> 01:28:11,100 Okay. And I'm saying so, you know, you know, we're talking 1526 01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:14,370 about what's going on. And you know, he says, you know, should 1527 01:28:14,370 --> 01:28:18,870 buy any weird. First of all, you said, all the Democrats he knows 1528 01:28:18,870 --> 01:28:23,250 and he travels in Austin. So lots of Democrats. He says, All 1529 01:28:23,250 --> 01:28:26,490 my friends are like, they're on the outside. Yeah, go Joe. But 1530 01:28:26,490 --> 01:28:29,490 they tell me they're all voting for Trump. Because they don't 1531 01:28:29,490 --> 01:28:32,100 want to be ousted from the group from their other Democrat 1532 01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:34,890 friends who are probably also lying and are going to vote for 1533 01:28:34,890 --> 01:28:39,900 Trump. But he says it's actually bad for us because if Trump gets 1534 01:28:39,900 --> 01:28:43,980 in, then the oil prices will kind of stay where they are. And 1535 01:28:43,980 --> 01:28:47,610 they're going to start going down. He said that if Biden gets 1536 01:28:47,610 --> 01:28:51,960 to go for another, another go around. He says the oil prices 1537 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:56,790 will skyrocket. He says it's been held down artificially, by 1538 01:28:56,820 --> 01:28:58,170 a whole bunch of means. 1539 01:29:00,210 --> 01:29:02,340 John C Dvorak: Well, I would have asked him, I 1540 01:29:02,340 --> 01:29:03,810 Adam Curry: can still ask him, so yeah. 1541 01:29:05,430 --> 01:29:07,590 John C Dvorak: Well, the production of oil in this 1542 01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:11,610 country is at the highest it's ever been, despite what Biden 1543 01:29:11,610 --> 01:29:15,990 says, but it's a fact. Yeah. So I think he's just saying it's, 1544 01:29:16,020 --> 01:29:19,590 you know, they're making a big fuss about petroleum because 1545 01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:25,230 it's because of the base of idiots. And because of the high 1546 01:29:25,230 --> 01:29:28,860 production going on here and does and I guess cutting off the 1547 01:29:28,860 --> 01:29:32,490 Russian stuff may be affected the whole the whole scene, the 1548 01:29:32,490 --> 01:29:36,270 price of oil is too high now. It's not too low. It's not 1549 01:29:36,270 --> 01:29:38,850 artificially low by any means. But he 1550 01:29:38,850 --> 01:29:41,610 Adam Curry: says it could double he says it's crazy. I can see it 1551 01:29:41,610 --> 01:29:44,550 going up. Yeah, yeah. I'm just telling you what the what the my 1552 01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:47,280 boy in the oil business says, you know, I have no other 1553 01:29:47,310 --> 01:29:49,350 John C Dvorak: probably as a feeling for it. He's in the 1554 01:29:49,350 --> 01:29:51,270 business after all, he told 1555 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,050 Adam Curry: the EPA, you know, remember they have all you've 1556 01:29:55,050 --> 01:29:58,410 got to shut off these things. You've got leakage everywhere 1557 01:29:58,410 --> 01:29:58,800 and data 1558 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,050 John C Dvorak: leakage and never find theories that are Yeah, 1559 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,300 product is just going out the window he 1560 01:30:03,300 --> 01:30:07,440 Adam Curry: says that we have so much basically just free gas 1561 01:30:07,620 --> 01:30:11,550 that is just just out there that no one is building any plants 1562 01:30:11,550 --> 01:30:15,270 for he says we could set with the week, we can't even give it 1563 01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:20,310 away. Gas nicaise natural gas, we could power the country for 1564 01:30:20,310 --> 01:30:23,370 1000 years with all this gas that we're not allowed to do 1565 01:30:23,370 --> 01:30:27,210 anything with. It's just that it's just there. We also have 1566 01:30:27,210 --> 01:30:29,970 John C Dvorak: 350 years that known reserves of coal that we 1567 01:30:29,970 --> 01:30:34,170 could power the country with her 350 years. Plus another 1000 1568 01:30:34,170 --> 01:30:37,680 years again, we could just be going like crazy for the next 1569 01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:44,130 you know. 1500 years, it seems and no one would blink an eye 1570 01:30:44,130 --> 01:30:45,600 but no no, no oil. 1571 01:30:45,630 --> 01:30:48,990 Adam Curry: No. Yeah. Peak Oil by your electric vehicle people 1572 01:30:50,460 --> 01:30:54,210 John C Dvorak: ordering the grid down. I'm driving around 1573 01:30:54,210 --> 01:30:59,760 yesterday. I mean, local, local driver. Oh, here we go. The cars 1574 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,980 that are parked on the street and elsewhere. Where are you? 1575 01:31:01,980 --> 01:31:04,830 Where are they going to charge? You have to charge an electric 1576 01:31:04,830 --> 01:31:06,000 car every night? 1577 01:31:06,030 --> 01:31:09,900 Adam Curry: Yep. Yep. How about how about Los Angeles? You 1578 01:31:09,900 --> 01:31:14,700 imagine being on the 10 with like 30% battery? 1579 01:31:16,950 --> 01:31:20,460 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can imagine. It's no big deal 1580 01:31:20,460 --> 01:31:23,160 because you're not moving. And the electric car only uses 1581 01:31:23,310 --> 01:31:26,460 energy when it's moving. So you could sell for hours on end. How 1582 01:31:26,460 --> 01:31:29,580 about your air conditioner? Well, that would be chewing up 1583 01:31:29,580 --> 01:31:32,190 some gas and gas. Alright, right 1584 01:31:32,220 --> 01:31:34,350 Adam Curry: I got a couple of clips here from from the nap. 1585 01:31:34,380 --> 01:31:39,000 The Napster judge nap. Now when it comes to freedom, you want to 1586 01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:40,590 be listened to judge Napoletano 1587 01:31:40,620 --> 01:31:43,260 John C Dvorak: by the way. I'm gonna just before you do that, 1588 01:31:43,260 --> 01:31:46,890 you know, you brought up this idea of this group of people you 1589 01:31:46,890 --> 01:31:50,430 had a name for him that counter podcasters or something 1590 01:31:51,150 --> 01:31:53,940 controlled opportunists that couldn't Yeah, those guys. 1591 01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:58,800 There's another as a third group. Oh, no. And Napoletana 1592 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,950 was part of this third group and he keeps bringing these Amrinder 1593 01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,850 Ritter he's bringing later got Ritter I think McGregor 1594 01:32:06,150 --> 01:32:09,540 McGregor. McGregor is in this third group. And there's a note 1595 01:32:09,540 --> 01:32:13,140 there's a there's this Larry White, I think his name is 1596 01:32:13,140 --> 01:32:16,860 another expert or No, Larry, some. And there's a bunch of 1597 01:32:16,860 --> 01:32:19,890 these guys. And it's like it to me, you because that group that 1598 01:32:19,890 --> 01:32:22,230 you defined, I think there's another group and I think that's 1599 01:32:22,230 --> 01:32:25,470 this group in the peloton was right in the middle of it? Well, 1600 01:32:25,470 --> 01:32:25,620 I 1601 01:32:25,620 --> 01:32:28,500 Adam Curry: like him. I like I don't like it when he has those 1602 01:32:28,500 --> 01:32:31,170 guys on because, you know, people will say, This is great. 1603 01:32:31,170 --> 01:32:36,960 It explains everything to ours doesn't explain anything. But he 1604 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,000 nails this one down the way I see this. 1605 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:40,920 Unknown: The House of Representatives voted by 1606 01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:46,560 overwhelming numbers to define anti semitism in such a way that 1607 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:50,280 if you repeat certain phrases from the New Testament, you can 1608 01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,100 be declared an anti Semite. Okay, let them say what they 1609 01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:57,180 want about me. Ah, but if you're a college professor or college 1610 01:32:57,180 --> 01:33:00,180 administrator, or you're a student on the college, let's 1611 01:33:00,180 --> 01:33:04,110 you say this, the college can actually lose federal funds. 1612 01:33:04,110 --> 01:33:08,280 Now, this is not the law yet. The Senate hasn't, hasn't voted 1613 01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:12,510 on its version of this yet. Joe Biden would probably sign up 1614 01:33:12,510 --> 01:33:16,920 because he likes to curry favor with Prime Minister Netanyahu 1615 01:33:17,130 --> 01:33:20,640 and his government. But I would think that the first person 1616 01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,730 harmed by this law would challenge it in the federal 1617 01:33:23,730 --> 01:33:28,470 court and the first federal judge that sees this thing will 1618 01:33:28,470 --> 01:33:32,310 invalidate it, because Congress shall make no law abridging the 1619 01:33:32,310 --> 01:33:38,160 freedom of speech basically means that you decide what to 1620 01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:42,120 say and what to listen to. And the government has no say in 1621 01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,840 making those decisions. Because the whole purpose of the First 1622 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:49,140 Amendment. This is right out of about two dozen Supreme Court 1623 01:33:49,140 --> 01:33:52,830 opinions now is to keep the government out of the business 1624 01:33:52,830 --> 01:33:56,820 of speech. He's a constitutional lawyer he would know regarding 1625 01:33:56,820 --> 01:34:00,690 the House of Representatives anti semitism Bill, did all the 1626 01:34:00,690 --> 01:34:04,380 members of Congress who voted for passage of the bill violate 1627 01:34:04,380 --> 01:34:06,180 their oath of office? Yes, they did. 1628 01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:07,920 Adam Curry: This the way he's taking questions. He's taking 1629 01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:08,580 questions. Okay. I 1630 01:34:08,580 --> 01:34:10,860 John C Dvorak: want to say you mentioned some of your youth 1631 01:34:10,860 --> 01:34:14,160 called this a resolution it appears to be an act. It 1632 01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:18,420 Adam Curry: No, it's HR, it's a house resolution. It's a 1633 01:34:18,420 --> 01:34:22,890 resolution that resolves the there's no extra law being 1634 01:34:22,890 --> 01:34:26,640 written here. They're adapting title six. That's just saying, 1635 01:34:26,670 --> 01:34:29,250 Hey, we think you should change title six. Okay. 1636 01:34:29,250 --> 01:34:30,960 John C Dvorak: Department of Education goes into the 1637 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,690 Department of Education is involved. Yeah, Chevron 1638 01:34:33,690 --> 01:34:37,410 deference. These people run deficits got to get in. Sooner 1639 01:34:37,410 --> 01:34:39,120 than later they'd knock this crap off. 1640 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,600 Adam Curry: Let me just say Congress would impress me. If 1641 01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:48,270 they said we're writing a law a bill a law that says you cannot 1642 01:34:48,270 --> 01:34:51,360 say this then you would impress me with your big mouth but know 1643 01:34:51,420 --> 01:34:54,930 what they're doing is yeah, we gave Jamie usually change a 1644 01:34:54,930 --> 01:34:57,780 bikini him because they don't have the balls because they know 1645 01:34:57,780 --> 01:35:00,720 it's completely unconstitutional. So it's a 1646 01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:05,400 resolution that says, Department of Education, you should change 1647 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:05,700 that 1648 01:35:06,330 --> 01:35:09,240 Unknown: great question that violated their oaths of office 1649 01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:13,710 because every twice a month I did when I became a state judge 1650 01:35:13,710 --> 01:35:16,920 in New Jersey the President did when he became president, a 1651 01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:20,850 school board janitor takes and that is fidelity to the 1652 01:35:20,850 --> 01:35:23,910 Constitution, which includes the First Amendment, not the 1653 01:35:23,910 --> 01:35:27,540 Constitution as they want it to be. But the Constitution as the 1654 01:35:27,540 --> 01:35:29,910 courts have interpreted. Great question. Okay, 1655 01:35:29,940 --> 01:35:31,320 Adam Curry: we'll do one more. And then we're done with and 1656 01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:32,070 under HR 1657 01:35:32,070 --> 01:35:36,510 Unknown: 6090. The New Testament is anti semitic hate speech. How 1658 01:35:36,510 --> 01:35:40,080 can you swear on the Bible in court now? How can they swear on 1659 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:43,500 the Bible when they take their oath of office? Great question. 1660 01:35:43,770 --> 01:35:47,430 And great observation. Great question. Statements made in the 1661 01:35:47,430 --> 01:35:51,180 New Testament, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the Acts of the 1662 01:35:51,180 --> 01:35:55,230 Apostles and St. Paul's letters, to the Hebrews to the Romans to 1663 01:35:55,230 --> 01:35:59,010 the Colossians. to the Thessalonians. All of that is 1664 01:35:59,010 --> 01:36:02,580 hate speech under this despicable legislation that the 1665 01:36:02,580 --> 01:36:05,670 House of Representatives passed yesterday. I don't think the 1666 01:36:05,670 --> 01:36:09,240 Senate is going to pass it. And it is inconceivable to me that a 1667 01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:13,140 judge would allow it to last, the first judge before whom it's 1668 01:36:13,140 --> 01:36:17,520 challenged will enjoin its enforcement immediately. 1669 01:36:17,580 --> 01:36:20,580 Adam Curry: So I'm just helping me here, John, I'm reading hr 1670 01:36:20,580 --> 01:36:26,820 6090 House resolution. It says at the top enact but this an axe 1671 01:36:26,820 --> 01:36:29,790 is the acting, that doesn't mean it's law just helped me 1672 01:36:29,790 --> 01:36:32,040 understand make sure I'm saying this right. And it says to 1673 01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:37,140 provide for the consideration of a definition, consideration not 1674 01:36:37,140 --> 01:36:40,980 this is what we define it as consideration of a definition of 1675 01:36:40,980 --> 01:36:44,370 anti semitism set forth by the International House of Pancakes, 1676 01:36:44,550 --> 01:36:48,180 a Holocaust Remembrance Alliance for the enforcement of federal 1677 01:36:48,180 --> 01:36:51,390 anti discrimination laws concerning education programs or 1678 01:36:51,390 --> 01:36:55,500 activities, and for other purposes. So they're asking for 1679 01:36:55,500 --> 01:36:57,480 consideration of a definition. 1680 01:36:57,750 --> 01:37:01,020 John C Dvorak: They're they're designing something to throw it 1681 01:37:01,020 --> 01:37:04,020 to department, I think he would, he said was right. They're 1682 01:37:04,020 --> 01:37:07,080 designing something to throw it to her at the Department of 1683 01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,800 Education to make them do a bunch of differences, you know, 1684 01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,730 bunch of different Yes, rules, a bunch of rules. And the rules 1685 01:37:14,730 --> 01:37:18,540 are only apply that the rules are designed to apply to the 1686 01:37:18,540 --> 01:37:21,270 colleges, they get federal funding, so they can hold the 1687 01:37:21,270 --> 01:37:26,310 sword of Damocles over their heads. Exactly. And dig and let 1688 01:37:26,310 --> 01:37:29,010 them do their own thing. I mean, I think everybody's right, 1689 01:37:29,010 --> 01:37:33,750 you're right. He's right. And this is just a chicken kind of 1690 01:37:33,750 --> 01:37:37,170 approach. Do not want to do anything, but you know, pass on 1691 01:37:37,170 --> 01:37:40,860 it here. You guys go do this for us. Yeah. So we don't have to do 1692 01:37:40,860 --> 01:37:46,260 exactly. So we, we can look good in the process by voting. Yes. 1693 01:37:46,290 --> 01:37:48,630 Adam Curry: And I will just remind everybody, Chevron 1694 01:37:48,630 --> 01:37:52,320 deference, Jeff, Chevron, Chevron, Chevron deference, 1695 01:37:52,440 --> 01:37:57,990 Chevron, Chevron deference is under review, we'll come up with 1696 01:37:57,990 --> 01:38:02,430 the Supreme Court and what that will force is a complete redo of 1697 01:38:02,430 --> 01:38:05,430 how laws are written. So laws will 1698 01:38:05,730 --> 01:38:09,390 John C Dvorak: be agencies. Yeah. So the agencies basically 1699 01:38:09,390 --> 01:38:09,720 will no 1700 01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,240 Adam Curry: longer be able to interpret the laws, the laws 1701 01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:15,990 will be sent back to Congress, and they will have to define 1702 01:38:16,020 --> 01:38:20,040 exactly what the law is and not leave it up to the agencies 1703 01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:25,620 which would, which would save our country? If if, if, if if, 1704 01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,550 John C Dvorak: and of course, the irony, remained, because I 1705 01:38:29,550 --> 01:38:35,160 think I wrote this up in his substack. The irony is that the 1706 01:38:35,970 --> 01:38:40,860 is all began during the Reagan administration. Yes, during a 1707 01:38:40,860 --> 01:38:45,570 case where the EPA was because Reagan told the EPA to back off. 1708 01:38:46,440 --> 01:38:50,130 And so they started changing their rules, they backed off and 1709 01:38:50,130 --> 01:38:56,940 they got sued by a by a climate change on you know, grew I've 1710 01:38:56,940 --> 01:39:02,520 some climate people, climate critters, it was a lawsuit, and 1711 01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:06,600 it was, it was against Chevron for not having to follow the 1712 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:10,170 older rules, because the EPA backed off and they and they 1713 01:39:10,170 --> 01:39:13,920 would of course, decide, hey, the EPA, it's up to them, they 1714 01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:17,460 can do whatever they want. And if they back off on their on the 1715 01:39:17,460 --> 01:39:21,090 rules and make things easier on Chevron, that's just too bad. 1716 01:39:21,090 --> 01:39:23,370 That's just the way it is. It became known as the Chevron 1717 01:39:23,370 --> 01:39:27,150 deference. But then it know that it became an issue once they 1718 01:39:27,180 --> 01:39:29,700 went the other way. And they did damage this. The problem is 1719 01:39:29,700 --> 01:39:32,940 Republicans and Democrats, the Democrats get in and they crank 1720 01:39:32,940 --> 01:39:35,970 the rules up in the other direction. And now our wishes 1721 01:39:35,970 --> 01:39:39,600 Oh, this is bad. What was fine during the Reagan 1722 01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:43,890 administration, but now it's bad. Okay. Exactly. It's kind of 1723 01:39:44,850 --> 01:39:46,590 it's a basic path 1724 01:39:46,590 --> 01:39:50,730 Adam Curry: to healing. It would be it would be healing for our 1725 01:39:50,730 --> 01:39:51,270 country. 1726 01:39:51,690 --> 01:39:55,980 John C Dvorak: But it's but in reality, this shouldn't be for 1727 01:39:56,370 --> 01:40:01,770 that case, which was in the 80s it Congress had a little more 1728 01:40:01,770 --> 01:40:04,860 responsibility and then handing everything off to these these 1729 01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:08,670 bloated was a kangaroo court that was part of that system. 1730 01:40:08,730 --> 01:40:11,820 bloated you were part of it. Yeah when I was in the air 1731 01:40:11,820 --> 01:40:14,910 pollution district it was a kangaroo court they had their 1732 01:40:14,910 --> 01:40:17,700 own hearings and their hearing board and you had to stand up 1733 01:40:17,700 --> 01:40:19,830 when the guys came into the hearing 1734 01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,790 Adam Curry: for the guys in the agency know your 1735 01:40:24,630 --> 01:40:28,620 John C Dvorak: court system Wow, they all these agencies do they 1736 01:40:28,620 --> 01:40:31,380 have their own little kangaroo court and they bring people in 1737 01:40:31,740 --> 01:40:34,410 and the next thing you know there are so and so the head of 1738 01:40:34,410 --> 01:40:37,440 the whatever was called the air the board and they get 1739 01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:40,590 everyone's stand they all stand like it's a like a real judge 1740 01:40:40,620 --> 01:40:44,100 all hail all hell and they all sit down and then they you know 1741 01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:46,860 you guys are fined a million dollars for doing this and that 1742 01:40:46,860 --> 01:40:49,290 the other thing Okay, well, what are we going to do about it 1743 01:40:49,290 --> 01:40:49,950 nothing. 1744 01:40:51,690 --> 01:40:53,310 Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your 1745 01:40:53,310 --> 01:40:55,800 current say in the morning to you, the man who put the season 1746 01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:58,290 the Karman criminals ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend 1747 01:40:58,290 --> 01:41:01,380 on the other end, the One Only Mr. John Cena 1748 01:41:07,350 --> 01:41:08,850 John C Dvorak: should see boots on the ground feet in the air 1749 01:41:08,850 --> 01:41:11,730 subs in the water all the days and nights out in the morning. 1750 01:41:18,270 --> 01:41:21,510 Adam Curry: Well, 1986 1986, 1751 01:41:21,900 --> 01:41:23,100 John C Dvorak: Sunday sucks. 1752 01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:29,460 Adam Curry: Well, I like all 1986 trolls who are listening in 1753 01:41:29,460 --> 01:41:32,730 some of them are in the troll room trolling away. And I got 1754 01:41:32,730 --> 01:41:35,850 lots of stuff to say, especially the last couple of topics. It 1755 01:41:35,850 --> 01:41:40,200 was amazing. And I want to remind everybody that we have I 1756 01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,330 don't know, we wrote no one really knows how many people 1757 01:41:42,330 --> 01:41:45,750 listen and downloads and what and no one really knows. We've 1758 01:41:45,750 --> 01:41:49,830 never played that game. But it seems like there's probably 1759 01:41:49,860 --> 01:41:53,190 hundreds of 1000s of people. And we're close, like 900,000 people 1760 01:41:53,190 --> 01:41:58,140 on a monthly basis who listen to this podcast. And we love 1761 01:41:58,140 --> 01:42:00,690 celebrating our executive and Associate Executive producers 1762 01:42:00,690 --> 01:42:03,690 that balances out because really only a couple of percentage 1763 01:42:03,690 --> 01:42:07,800 points of people who support the show, if everybody this is not 1764 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,840 pitching for this, because that's what NPR does. And 1765 01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,900 they're about to fold. If everybody just supported us once 1766 01:42:12,900 --> 01:42:16,050 a month with $5. We I mean, can you imagine? 1767 01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:20,190 John C Dvorak: That's the myth. That's that myth of that's 1768 01:42:20,190 --> 01:42:22,950 Adam Curry: the myth. Yeah. So the myth, the podcast, but I 1769 01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:25,620 want everyone to know that under the value for value system when 1770 01:42:25,620 --> 01:42:31,260 you do that, and people say I am broke it. Is there not one 1771 01:42:31,260 --> 01:42:34,290 single thing. If you find value in the show, if you're listening 1772 01:42:34,290 --> 01:42:37,650 to the show, there's not one moment in the month, where you 1773 01:42:37,650 --> 01:42:41,010 can say I'm going to contribute some value back. One less 1774 01:42:41,010 --> 01:42:44,610 cappuccino. I mean, it's just priorities. I'm only asked 1775 01:42:44,610 --> 01:42:47,310 John C Dvorak: winless cap if everybody okay, let's say I've 1776 01:42:47,310 --> 01:42:50,730 cappuccinos four bucks at Starbucks. It's probably more, 1777 01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:53,640 it's more Okay, let's say it's four bucks, though we go easy. 1778 01:42:53,670 --> 01:42:58,080 If everybody gave us for everybody of let's say close to 1779 01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:01,620 a million people gave us four bucks a month. That would be $4 1780 01:43:01,620 --> 01:43:05,550 million a month we make and I can see where you guys think 1781 01:43:05,550 --> 01:43:09,810 this is possible. I know. It's Wow, we made $50 million. Yeah. 1782 01:43:11,070 --> 01:43:13,680 Adam Curry: It's not gonna happen. We do exactly one month 1783 01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:16,650 of a show and retire. So it's not gonna happen. It's not but 1784 01:43:17,820 --> 01:43:22,350 that's okay. So just from time to time when when you hear us 1785 01:43:22,350 --> 01:43:28,410 asking for support. Consider us do that. I mean, I, I live by 1786 01:43:28,410 --> 01:43:32,610 the same standard all the time. People say, Oh, you got some 1787 01:43:32,610 --> 01:43:36,060 money for this. You got some GoFundMe over here? I live by 1788 01:43:36,060 --> 01:43:38,820 the same rule. And honestly, as the giving them makes me feel 1789 01:43:38,820 --> 01:43:42,600 good. I do. You probably don't. Do you ever give money to 1790 01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:43,530 anything online? 1791 01:43:43,620 --> 01:43:46,980 John C Dvorak: I haven't gotten to do the cash flow is so lousy, 1792 01:43:47,820 --> 01:43:48,690 horrible man. 1793 01:43:50,220 --> 01:43:53,310 Adam Curry: So to balance that out people who clearly have more 1794 01:43:53,310 --> 01:43:57,510 value to give and that's just because of their situation. We 1795 01:43:57,540 --> 01:44:00,480 give their titles executive and Associate Executive Producer 1796 01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:03,690 ships, this stems from our, from our roots from Hollywood. 1797 01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,170 Because the producers you think that they're like producing the 1798 01:44:07,170 --> 01:44:10,320 movie like no call on the shots? No, you're funding the 1799 01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:14,100 operation. So we have producers who produce in many different 1800 01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:19,890 ways. A lot of ways and yeah, I mean, we probably can't thank 1801 01:44:19,890 --> 01:44:24,120 our art. Well, we can thank our artists. We can't do a review of 1802 01:44:24,210 --> 01:44:27,870 only say it's okay. Yeah, but I mean, we're also not gonna have 1803 01:44:27,870 --> 01:44:35,670 any art 616 56 Johnson pivot, very funny name. Artists. 1804 01:44:37,890 --> 01:44:41,280 Correct record, who I'm correct record hadn't had a wind for a 1805 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:45,270 couple of maybe a couple of years. Been lagging in and 1806 01:44:45,270 --> 01:44:48,660 correct. The record came back in with a very confusing piece of 1807 01:44:48,660 --> 01:44:52,560 art because, yes, we actually use a piece of art that had kind 1808 01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:56,340 of President Biden's face on it. And so Scarah manga, you know, 1809 01:44:56,340 --> 01:45:00,240 the Dutch guy, he's like, what is what is it okay, now How to 1810 01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:03,300 Use to use a famous celebrity 1811 01:45:04,950 --> 01:45:08,100 John C Dvorak: get thinking something that's an exception is 1812 01:45:08,100 --> 01:45:10,920 okay and it's going to happen over and over again isn't as 1813 01:45:11,010 --> 01:45:12,030 faulty thinking 1814 01:45:12,060 --> 01:45:15,390 Adam Curry: it will Kenny been in the same conversation she had 1815 01:45:15,390 --> 01:45:20,160 a right she says another fine Dutch artist Kenny Ben says the 1816 01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:24,750 only rule is is a funny does does it hit? Does it hit a 1817 01:45:24,750 --> 01:45:27,300 nerve? And I would say we're always looking for something 1818 01:45:27,300 --> 01:45:28,200 that makes us laugh. 1819 01:45:29,910 --> 01:45:33,150 John C Dvorak: Would you agree? Absolutely. The stuff that makes 1820 01:45:33,150 --> 01:45:37,500 it unless it's lewd. Yes. Yeah. Because sometimes some lewd art 1821 01:45:37,500 --> 01:45:40,560 will make us laugh, but then we're gonna probably in bad 1822 01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:40,800 taste. 1823 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,800 Adam Curry: Congress is going to outlaw lewd art soon enough. 1824 01:45:43,830 --> 01:45:44,670 Yeah. Yeah. 1825 01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:50,220 John C Dvorak: But we also believe in and more or less good 1826 01:45:50,220 --> 01:45:51,030 taste. 1827 01:45:52,830 --> 01:45:57,870 Adam Curry: Okay, so true. It's a fact we had a menthol Joe. But 1828 01:45:57,870 --> 01:46:01,140 of course, we know that President Biden is pandering to 1829 01:46:01,140 --> 01:46:07,140 the black community, as he calls it. Because it's all just on one 1830 01:46:07,140 --> 01:46:11,220 zip code. And, you know, they were banning menthol cigarettes, 1831 01:46:11,250 --> 01:46:14,820 and, you know, so now, that's the most racist thing I've ever 1832 01:46:14,820 --> 01:46:18,930 heard. Hey, hey, blacks, don't worry, we're gonna let you smoke 1833 01:46:18,930 --> 01:46:22,380 them up your Menthols. It's unbelievable. Don't lose the 1834 01:46:22,380 --> 01:46:24,990 black vote no, no. And then we even had the hidden a little 1835 01:46:24,990 --> 01:46:28,230 thought little little cartoon balloon there. You ain't black, 1836 01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:33,480 pointing out. So the hypocrisy of menthol Joe made us chuckle 1837 01:46:33,480 --> 01:46:37,620 was a good piece. A you know, correct a record is one of those 1838 01:46:37,620 --> 01:46:42,030 pros and just did a great job. There were some other ones I 1839 01:46:42,030 --> 01:46:45,720 know that we that we considered but no agenda rt generator.com 1840 01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:50,580 is currently down. So hopefully, Sir Paul Couture's, okay, and 1841 01:46:50,580 --> 01:46:52,830 he's working on it. And hopefully, it's not too bad that 1842 01:46:52,830 --> 01:46:56,580 we can have it up by the next show. And we appreciate the work 1843 01:46:56,580 --> 01:47:00,270 that all of our artists do. We're sorry, if it comes across 1844 01:47:00,270 --> 01:47:08,100 as confusing. But that's, that's the art world, man. It's how it 1845 01:47:08,100 --> 01:47:11,190 rolls man. Hey, man, it's how the art roll the art world 1846 01:47:11,190 --> 01:47:14,910 rolls. But and typically we're able to, we're able to critique 1847 01:47:14,910 --> 01:47:17,460 all the pieces, but we can't do that today. So thank you. 1848 01:47:17,460 --> 01:47:21,060 Correct. The record is a perfect example of time and talent given 1849 01:47:21,060 --> 01:47:25,140 by our artists. And you can always check those out. All of 1850 01:47:25,140 --> 01:47:28,770 the artists used one way or the other in our chapters, which 1851 01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,830 Dred Scott puts together for us on the modern podcast apps 1852 01:47:31,830 --> 01:47:35,430 podcast. apps.com. Now, to thank our executive and Associate 1853 01:47:35,430 --> 01:47:40,410 Executive producers for episode 1657. We kick it off with Sir 1854 01:47:40,410 --> 01:47:46,080 Tommy hawk. from Iowa City, Iowa. 504 24 I have a feeling 1855 01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:50,190 that may be $500. And he added the PayPal fees. It's 1856 01:47:50,190 --> 01:47:52,620 John C Dvorak: more than $4.24. Okay, so 1857 01:47:53,130 --> 01:47:56,460 Adam Curry: is there a reason why 504 Because what was Cinco 1858 01:47:56,460 --> 01:48:00,180 Demayo, but it would that would have been 505. So I don't know. 1859 01:48:00,690 --> 01:48:06,360 But he does, says ITM AC JCD. Star Wars. Oh, I see. That's why 1860 01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:11,250 it's for 504 24 Star Wars Day donation. Yes. May the Fourth be 1861 01:48:11,250 --> 01:48:15,630 with you from a future dementia patient listening at 1.5 speed. 1862 01:48:16,170 --> 01:48:18,840 Sorry to hear that. Thankfully, that won't happen within the 1863 01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:21,780 next four years. So I'll just keep enjoying the best podcast 1864 01:48:21,780 --> 01:48:26,820 in the universe. Thanks for all you do. And you see that Mark 1865 01:48:26,820 --> 01:48:29,160 Hamill, they rolled him out again. 1866 01:48:29,700 --> 01:48:31,560 John C Dvorak: Oh my god, Mark Hanna. When they posted a 1867 01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:37,140 picture of him hugging Karina on July Pierre. Ivan have so and 1868 01:48:37,140 --> 01:48:40,710 he's and he's also at the podium. This is a violation of 1869 01:48:40,710 --> 01:48:41,640 the Hatch Act. 1870 01:48:41,670 --> 01:48:46,860 Adam Curry: Yes. And I can I can accentuate that with let me see 1871 01:48:46,860 --> 01:48:49,200 I had him here. Using 1872 01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:51,840 John C Dvorak: the White House podium to promote Joe Biden for 1873 01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:53,010 president is illegal. 1874 01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:57,930 Adam Curry: Yes. And then he was backstage in the in the press 1875 01:48:57,930 --> 01:49:01,560 office and he recorded and posted this with a with a 1876 01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:04,410 picture of laser eye Joe. 1877 01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:08,490 Unknown: Hey, I'm Mark Hamill. And I'm voting for Joe Obi Wan 1878 01:49:08,490 --> 01:49:09,450 Kenobi. 1879 01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,350 Adam Curry: And apparently they're handing out aviators now 1880 01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:18,930 as swag in the White House. Did you catch that? No, I did not. 1881 01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:20,940 He came out with it with aviators all 1882 01:49:20,940 --> 01:49:24,150 John C Dvorak: in violation of the Hatch Act. Yeah, well, gee, 1883 01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:28,380 Adam Curry: okay. Well, Mark Hamill, though is just like why 1884 01:49:28,380 --> 01:49:30,870 would you lend yourself to that? Because 1885 01:49:30,870 --> 01:49:33,150 John C Dvorak: you like Joe Do you think Joe sharp sharp as a 1886 01:49:33,150 --> 01:49:36,510 tack sharp Yeah. And he's hurt back room so he gets to see Joe 1887 01:49:36,510 --> 01:49:39,750 and he's sharp is attacking just doing the zingers out there. 1888 01:49:39,870 --> 01:49:40,590 Hashtag 1889 01:49:40,590 --> 01:49:44,460 Adam Curry: show art everybody if if you're planning on posting 1890 01:49:44,460 --> 01:49:47,100 something that we can use the show art hashtag show art 1891 01:49:47,370 --> 01:49:50,070 John C Dvorak: posted on the master. Appreciate 1892 01:49:50,070 --> 01:49:53,520 Adam Curry: it. Thank you, sir Tommy hawk. Scott 1893 01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:55,770 John C Dvorak: Graham's up he's in Portland, Oregon. He had no 1894 01:49:55,770 --> 01:49:59,550 note I couldn't find a note anyway. And he came in with 453. 1895 01:49:59,550 --> 01:50:02,880 So in Till He sends us a note which we'll read later, we'll 1896 01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:04,980 give him a double up karma. And yes, we will. 1897 01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:13,530 Adam Curry: double ups you've got karma moving on with 333 dot 1898 01:50:13,530 --> 01:50:17,580 33. We love that sir EA of the tax domain from Clarkston, 1899 01:50:17,580 --> 01:50:21,300 Michigan. And he says after wrapping up the bulk of tax 1900 01:50:21,300 --> 01:50:24,330 season in April, I thought about the attached explanation of the 1901 01:50:24,330 --> 01:50:28,170 US tax system, producers may find it of interest. This 1902 01:50:28,170 --> 01:50:32,250 donation takes me past Baron level. And he I will put this in 1903 01:50:32,250 --> 01:50:36,180 the show notes. Let me see. He sent us. Let's see what he 1904 01:50:36,180 --> 01:50:40,170 called this. He called this the parable of 10 men in a bar. 1905 01:50:40,710 --> 01:50:46,560 Yeah, it is a very long I'll post as a PDF, but it's, he says 1906 01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:48,660 is one of the best analogies I've seen to explain the 1907 01:50:48,660 --> 01:50:52,650 downfall of socialist taxation policies. This is how income 1908 01:50:52,650 --> 01:50:56,520 taxes are paid in the US. And I'll post that Sir, we're gonna 1909 01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:58,800 take a look at it. It's kind of a brain twister, but when you 1910 01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:05,220 look at it, you go ha, ha, okay. Why don't we just print it? Just 1911 01:51:05,220 --> 01:51:05,850 print it? 1912 01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:09,720 John C Dvorak: Sure, thinking dad's up. He's in Broken Arrow, 1913 01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:14,190 Oklahoma at 333 Dots three, three. And he says the first 1914 01:51:14,190 --> 01:51:21,060 season of the thinking dad podcast launches tomorrow with 1915 01:51:21,060 --> 01:51:25,050 an exclusive interview with Alex Newman, founder of liberty 1916 01:51:25,050 --> 01:51:28,740 Sentinel media uncovering the dangerous global strategy to 1917 01:51:28,740 --> 01:51:34,770 standardize education. Yeah, the thinking dad podcast equips men 1918 01:51:34,770 --> 01:51:38,790 to think biblically about family, faith, business and 1919 01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:43,590 culture. Find it at thinking dad.net Adam, you have an open 1920 01:51:43,590 --> 01:51:46,860 invitation to come on and talk about your faith. Family career 1921 01:51:46,890 --> 01:51:51,390 Season One guests include Rick Green, Dr. George Barna. Kevin 1922 01:51:51,390 --> 01:51:56,970 Sorbo, and many head more heavy hitters and you'd fit right in 1923 01:51:56,970 --> 01:51:57,720 perfectly 1924 01:51:58,830 --> 01:52:03,060 Adam Curry: Yeah, well we no regrets em. Rick Agnes Sorkin 1925 01:52:03,060 --> 01:52:03,210 have 1926 01:52:03,210 --> 01:52:06,540 John C Dvorak: a baby with me native ad looks like to me I'm 1927 01:52:06,540 --> 01:52:09,240 Adam Curry: with it. Yeah but native ad with a promotional 1928 01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:11,280 opportunity to drive up to Broken 1929 01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:13,080 John C Dvorak: Arrow and hanging out I 1930 01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:18,330 Adam Curry: might do that. No, email me sir hold my beer is in 1931 01:52:18,330 --> 01:52:22,590 Austin Texas right down the road. 333 33 ITM y'all four more 1932 01:52:22,590 --> 01:52:28,170 years shout out to Linda Lou Potkin no jingles No. No jingles 1933 01:52:28,170 --> 01:52:32,520 no commerce or hold my beer. You know, Ash Ashlynn speed. Our F 1934 01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:36,390 for Formula racer. Yeah, so she's out. It was an eagle 1935 01:52:36,390 --> 01:52:39,750 Canyon. I think racing today. I saw that picture is a nice one. 1936 01:52:39,780 --> 01:52:43,140 Yes, she did you see the picture of her with she's next to the 1937 01:52:43,140 --> 01:52:46,800 car. She's got an which has the no agenda logo on it. She's 1938 01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:51,060 holding a can of gigawatt Coffee Roasters coffee. And she's 1939 01:52:51,060 --> 01:52:57,210 holding up a Linda Lou patcon sign. She got all the sponsors. 1940 01:52:58,050 --> 01:53:00,870 John C Dvorak: You get what coffee? I'm running out by the 1941 01:53:00,870 --> 01:53:03,840 way boys like this. I love 1942 01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,300 Adam Curry: it. I love outstanding product. I love it. 1943 01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:10,500 John C Dvorak: That was to hold my beard. Then I got Paul 1944 01:53:10,500 --> 01:53:16,740 Heaney. He's in Kremmling Kremmling Colorado 33333 working 1945 01:53:16,740 --> 01:53:20,340 in Alabama. That's where he is now. Wondering where are the 1946 01:53:20,340 --> 01:53:24,390 cicadas and get another week or so to go. And where is Mike 1947 01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:27,870 Johnson's mouth? Also I need a deed douching 1948 01:53:29,610 --> 01:53:31,440 Unknown: you've been deed deuced 1949 01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:35,640 Adam Curry: had a lot of people cracking up that was pretty 1950 01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:41,160 good. We move on to de Nancy from San Bruno California. And 1951 01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:47,910 she sent in a typed note. Dear John, but I'll read it 33333 I 1952 01:53:47,910 --> 01:53:53,340 bought three donuts that Lunardi is yesterday for $8.77 Stopped 1953 01:53:53,340 --> 01:53:59,160 at the arco to fill the tank gas was $5.69 Inflation is killing 1954 01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:03,540 us. Producers should realize inflation also hurts inflation 1955 01:54:03,540 --> 01:54:09,120 also hurts John and Adam they buy groceries too. Yes we do. So 1956 01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:12,840 donate he says she says thanks for the deconstruction it's 1957 01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:16,530 appreciated sincerely, Dame Nancy of the confused and we 1958 01:54:16,530 --> 01:54:18,360 appreciate you Dame Nancy Thank you very much. 1959 01:54:18,390 --> 01:54:21,270 John C Dvorak: We have gasoline cars Yeah we do. Well you do 1960 01:54:21,270 --> 01:54:26,340 bill in Charlotte North Carolina 333. He says ITM and thank you 1961 01:54:26,340 --> 01:54:29,850 for all your amygdala shrinking media analysis ITM to all the no 1962 01:54:29,850 --> 01:54:33,600 agenda community in the Greater Charlotte Metro. I'm going to 1963 01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:37,170 make one of those Thirsty Thursdays soon. 1964 01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:40,200 Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, those are the those are the big ones. 1965 01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:44,190 Those are the big the big meetups in Charlotte PJs in New 1966 01:54:44,190 --> 01:54:49,500 York City, our first Associate Executive Producer, two two, and 1967 01:54:49,500 --> 01:54:54,390 PJ says get John's newsletter and check out Adams boost the 1968 01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:59,250 gram ball. That's right booster gram ball.com Love is lit karma 1969 01:54:59,250 --> 01:55:01,800 for all Thank you very much BJ short and sweet. 1970 01:55:01,830 --> 01:55:03,450 Unknown: You've got karma. 1971 01:55:05,580 --> 01:55:08,610 John C Dvorak: Felix Gor Nietzsche in Farmington, 1972 01:55:08,610 --> 01:55:14,400 Connecticut 220 that he wants relationship karma. Now another 1973 01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:15,390 short and sweet note. 1974 01:55:15,570 --> 01:55:17,250 Unknown: You've got karma. 1975 01:55:18,930 --> 01:55:22,380 Adam Curry: Jason Christian is in Seattle Washington comes in 1976 01:55:22,380 --> 01:55:27,210 with 210 60. Thank you for your logic. us a new one. Thank you 1977 01:55:27,210 --> 01:55:30,990 for your logic. I did not accept the jab into my life and if 1978 01:55:30,990 --> 01:55:35,220 adopted Adams phrase, we know it's not effective. Is that my 1979 01:55:35,220 --> 01:55:42,090 phrase? No, but it's a great good phrase. Sir, for safe. Sir 1980 01:55:42,090 --> 01:55:45,210 Friday of the hot shop turned me on to your show. And currently 1981 01:55:45,210 --> 01:55:50,220 we have our art glass show at Montauk gallery in San Fran. 1982 01:55:50,370 --> 01:55:53,520 None of you. Oh, I'm sorry, Montague. Thank you Montague. 1983 01:55:53,550 --> 01:55:55,590 Where's the money you gallery in San Francisco? 1984 01:55:55,950 --> 01:55:57,600 John C Dvorak: I know I have to go over there because he left 1985 01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,280 the book for me I have to go Oh, 1986 01:55:59,580 --> 01:56:01,410 Adam Curry: but take some pictures. I want to see this art 1987 01:56:01,410 --> 01:56:03,690 glass show that sounds that sounds fun glasses 1988 01:56:03,690 --> 01:56:04,560 John C Dvorak: a big deal. 1989 01:56:04,740 --> 01:56:05,580 Adam Curry: What do you mean 1990 01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:08,820 John C Dvorak: it's a big deal. It's a it's especially in the 1991 01:56:08,820 --> 01:56:13,800 Pacific Northwest where they was really kind of popularized by 1992 01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:18,000 Gillooly Gilhooly whatever is named Gillooly. Who I met on a 1993 01:56:19,170 --> 01:56:20,580 very boat once don't 1994 01:56:21,540 --> 01:56:26,310 Adam Curry: bet it was a ferry boat. Now, don't we have Texas 1995 01:56:26,310 --> 01:56:28,920 hot glass here in Texas is that she makes 1996 01:56:29,340 --> 01:56:32,010 John C Dvorak: I think just okay. A lot of people do it and 1997 01:56:32,010 --> 01:56:36,660 it's it's tough stuff. Anyway, gigawatt coffees up. And he's in 1998 01:56:36,660 --> 01:56:42,390 Bensenville, Illinois 20505. And he says Hey, happy Cinco de mio 1999 01:56:42,390 --> 01:56:45,960 little observed holiday in Mexico. But in genius beer 2000 01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:51,000 companies co opted in the 1980s to sell cerveza Edward Bernays 2001 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:55,950 would be proud. But we do need an excuse for tacos to cut a and 2002 01:56:55,950 --> 01:57:02,280 tequila by think not. Alright, can I get a kind of a kumbu 2003 01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:06,960 belated note? I think not. Can I get a Spanish in the morning 2004 01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:11,850 jingle. By the way. Coffee is a great cure for May 6 Tequila 2005 01:57:11,850 --> 01:57:15,840 hangovers. So visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com and use code 2006 01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:20,700 ITM 20 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated Eli the coffee 2007 01:57:20,700 --> 01:57:21,180 guy. 2008 01:57:22,980 --> 01:57:27,000 Adam Curry: Stephanie 201 and she also has a note let me see 2009 01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:32,040 what Stephanie's note is here. Dear John Adam. This marks my 2010 01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:35,310 first donation after finding the show in late December. Apologies 2011 01:57:35,310 --> 01:57:38,430 for the delay. I wish I could send more No, no, no thank you 2012 01:57:38,460 --> 01:57:43,230 nice card by the way. Her card says with gratitude. You're 2013 01:57:43,230 --> 01:57:47,220 amazing. Very nice. No agenda has changed my life since 2014 01:57:47,250 --> 01:57:50,370 December. I've been dragging my feet to write this letter 2015 01:57:50,460 --> 01:57:53,490 because I don't have the words to show my appreciation for all 2016 01:57:53,490 --> 01:57:57,390 that you both do. You just set it up. Thank you. As an aside, 2017 01:57:57,390 --> 01:58:00,150 please see the rest of my note and close and close apologies 2018 01:58:00,150 --> 01:58:03,390 for the lengthy note feel free to read as much or as little on 2019 01:58:03,390 --> 01:58:06,390 the show and she also wants to be on the birthday list which 2020 01:58:06,390 --> 01:58:11,250 she's on for she turns 30 on May 6 Where's the rest of this note? 2021 01:58:11,250 --> 01:58:11,850 Oh, 2022 01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:14,880 John C Dvorak: is a separate PDF let me just take a look here. 2023 01:58:15,420 --> 01:58:16,500 Adam Curry: Oh very long. 2024 01:58:18,150 --> 01:58:19,800 John C Dvorak: Well, that's where I was put aside she said 2025 01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:22,020 Adam Curry: I think Adam will get a kick out of the fact that 2026 01:58:22,020 --> 01:58:25,350 his deconstruction of the most recent legislation was the push 2027 01:58:25,350 --> 01:58:28,410 I needed to get this letter out. Specifically the dollars 2028 01:58:28,410 --> 01:58:31,890 allocated to the Department of Energy for science along with 2029 01:58:31,890 --> 01:58:35,220 the emerging and never ending clips of new science related to 2030 01:58:35,220 --> 01:58:40,710 climate change. Thank you. Very nice note I appreciate it. We 2031 01:58:40,710 --> 01:58:43,080 both appreciate that you sent that and thank you and welcome 2032 01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:47,310 Unknown: you've been de douche to ask for 2033 01:58:47,310 --> 01:58:50,160 Adam Curry: it but she deserves it thank you welcome to no 2034 01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:53,070 agenda nation. Stephanie LAPACK 2035 01:58:53,070 --> 01:58:55,650 John C Dvorak: in there she is in Lakewood Colorado drops karma 2036 01:58:55,650 --> 01:58:58,320 is what she wrote once and she also has his message for a 2037 01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:01,320 competitive edge Go to Image makers inc.com For all your 2038 01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:05,100 executive resume and job search needs. Does image makers think 2039 01:59:05,100 --> 01:59:09,780 with a K are just fine Linden lapad Can Duchess of jobs and 2040 01:59:09,780 --> 01:59:14,370 writer of resumes also plugged by other people on this list? 2041 01:59:14,790 --> 01:59:16,590 But she's on the producers list? 2042 01:59:16,710 --> 01:59:25,800 Adam Curry: Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's karma and we finish 2043 01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:28,320 up the list we got two more Dennis price Pinegrove 2044 01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:32,610 California 200 He says I've been donating $200 annually for years 2045 01:59:32,790 --> 01:59:36,480 and go back to the days with Leo cranky geeks good times. Thank 2046 01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:40,230 you. This is a beautiful way to support the show. You have you 2047 01:59:40,230 --> 01:59:43,140 both have strong political beliefs but they seldom if ever 2048 01:59:43,140 --> 01:59:46,350 leak into the show. We all appreciate that. Thanks Dennis 2049 01:59:46,350 --> 01:59:49,740 from Pine Grove California. Oh really independent classical 2050 01:59:49,740 --> 01:59:53,430 independence and politically homeless I would say in the in 2051 01:59:53,430 --> 01:59:57,600 the world non affiliated non non affiliate I like I like 2052 01:59:57,630 --> 02:00:00,540 unaffiliated, non US Feeling 2053 02:00:00,900 --> 02:00:02,730 John C Dvorak: unaffiliated same thing thing. 2054 02:00:02,940 --> 02:00:05,550 Adam Curry: Thank you Dennis and thank you for your annual $200 2055 02:00:05,550 --> 02:00:08,190 Your Associate Executive Producer ship is in the bag. 2056 02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:13,830 John C Dvorak: Tom Beals last. He's in Brooklyn of all places, 2057 02:00:13,830 --> 02:00:17,970 New York. 200 bucks is my first time donating to the show since 2058 02:00:17,970 --> 02:00:24,240 being introduced by the smokin hot, Steph. Paoli low. A few 2059 02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:30,270 months back. Please wish her a happy 30th which is Monday, May 2060 02:00:30,270 --> 02:00:36,180 6, may 6. She is the best and loves you both dearly. Well. He 2061 02:00:36,180 --> 02:00:36,960 gets a de doop 2062 02:00:39,330 --> 02:00:42,030 Adam Curry: de doop SBT Big D do some right there. 2063 02:00:42,510 --> 02:00:47,010 John C Dvorak: About Steph is she donate a hottie loves. 2064 02:00:47,430 --> 02:00:50,220 Adam Curry: He loves us dearly that that counts. And 2065 02:00:50,220 --> 02:00:53,250 John C Dvorak: that will be our group of associate and executive 2066 02:00:53,250 --> 02:00:57,660 producers for show 1657 Heinz 57. Yes, 2067 02:00:57,660 --> 02:01:00,090 Adam Curry: thank you very much to these execs and Associate 2068 02:01:00,090 --> 02:01:02,430 Executive producers and of course, again, thank you to 2069 02:01:02,430 --> 02:01:05,820 everyone who comes in under 50 We'll talk about those donors 2070 02:01:05,820 --> 02:01:09,870 later. 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We go out we get people in the mouth 2079 02:01:50,130 --> 02:01:53,070 Adam Curry: and a reminder that these are permanent credits you 2080 02:01:53,070 --> 02:01:55,860 can put them anywhere credits are recognized, including 2081 02:01:55,890 --> 02:02:04,440 imdb.com which is groovy, groovy. Africa news to scare 2082 02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:07,680 everybody off. Oh no. Come on some African news. Come on. It's 2083 02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:11,160 a shorty real short. 39 seconds. Don't worry won't hurt too much. 2084 02:02:11,190 --> 02:02:14,760 Unknown: The Russians are in a separate compound and don't have 2085 02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:18,900 access to US forces or access to our equipment. US 2086 02:02:18,900 --> 02:02:22,290 Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin offering reassurances that US 2087 02:02:22,290 --> 02:02:26,100 troops in Asia are safe. His comments came after Reuters 2088 02:02:26,100 --> 02:02:29,310 reported that Russian military personnel had entered an airbase 2089 02:02:29,340 --> 02:02:33,480 in the capital Miami, which houses US troops. New shares 2090 02:02:33,480 --> 02:02:36,780 junta has told us to withdraw the nearly 1000 military 2091 02:02:36,780 --> 02:02:39,960 personnel the US has in the country. At the same time, 2092 02:02:40,230 --> 02:02:43,140 Russia is seeking to strengthen relations with Nigeria and other 2093 02:02:43,140 --> 02:02:47,100 African countries. Until a coup last year. Niger had been a key 2094 02:02:47,100 --> 02:02:49,830 us partner in the fight against Islamic insurgents. 2095 02:02:50,250 --> 02:02:52,470 Adam Curry: It's really what what do we get out of Nigeria? I 2096 02:02:52,470 --> 02:02:57,090 mean, we we had a we have a drone base there we actually has 2097 02:02:57,240 --> 02:02:59,250 John C Dvorak: probably minerals of some sort I'm sure we 2098 02:03:00,690 --> 02:03:03,210 Adam Curry: listen to this. This is I think a strategic we have a 2099 02:03:03,210 --> 02:03:05,370 drone base in Niger Francophone 2100 02:03:05,370 --> 02:03:09,090 Unknown: West Africa has seen a series of regime changes and 2101 02:03:09,090 --> 02:03:13,050 radical shifts in policy recently. French troops were 2102 02:03:13,050 --> 02:03:17,100 expelled from Niger last year and now they're demanding US 2103 02:03:17,100 --> 02:03:24,000 troops get out get out the US as a regional ally in its fight 2104 02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:27,480 against terror groups in the region and operates a military 2105 02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:32,670 base and $100 million drone base in the sub Saharan desert so 2106 02:03:32,670 --> 02:03:39,720 Adam Curry: there you go 100 million dollar drone base huh So 2107 02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:42,870 Russia is moving in at West China and all of this is just 2108 02:03:42,870 --> 02:03:44,400 the bricks taking over everything 2109 02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:46,140 John C Dvorak: get much publicity for what they do they 2110 02:03:46,140 --> 02:03:49,530 do everything pretty much on the side this May 2111 02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:51,990 Adam Curry: but I mean do you think that the Russians and the 2112 02:03:51,990 --> 02:03:56,760 Chinese and are working together to you know to take over Africa 2113 02:03:56,760 --> 02:03:59,220 and oldest minerals the minerals 2114 02:03:59,940 --> 02:04:04,020 John C Dvorak: well the Chinese I think maybe somebody is yeah 2115 02:04:04,050 --> 02:04:06,660 Adam Curry: that the breaks that we gotta be careful this bricks 2116 02:04:06,660 --> 02:04:12,780 has taken over we're gonna we're gonna be out of luck I think so. 2117 02:04:12,780 --> 02:04:14,760 I think we're gonna be out of luck stuffs gonna be bad 2118 02:04:14,790 --> 02:04:18,150 John C Dvorak: that's happened could happen Yeah. Let's go to 2119 02:04:18,420 --> 02:04:20,370 Adam Curry: we just print some more than the three by three by 2120 02:04:20,370 --> 02:04:20,670 the way. 2121 02:04:21,210 --> 02:04:22,380 John C Dvorak: Maybe the last one. 2122 02:04:22,620 --> 02:04:25,440 Adam Curry: Why? Why maybe the last one because 2123 02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:27,120 John C Dvorak: you know they're getting cheated on like I'm 2124 02:04:27,120 --> 02:04:27,300 there. 2125 02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:33,060 Unknown: Because your haters debridement JC D is failing 2126 02:04:33,090 --> 02:04:35,790 comparing story from ABC CBS 2127 02:04:39,540 --> 02:04:41,790 Adam Curry: All right. Well, the jury is out we're not but you 2128 02:04:41,790 --> 02:04:44,820 know, the next three by three could be a comparison in a 2129 02:04:44,820 --> 02:04:49,440 prelude to our award show could be three by three of AI jokes 2130 02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:50,700 made about a certain topic, 2131 02:04:51,090 --> 02:04:54,240 John C Dvorak: or a three by three of Joe Biden's voice. Yes, 2132 02:04:54,270 --> 02:04:57,270 Adam Curry: there you go. That now you're talking now we have 2133 02:04:57,300 --> 02:04:57,630 now we 2134 02:04:57,630 --> 02:05:00,510 John C Dvorak: do have this is about Biden. condemning the 2135 02:05:00,510 --> 02:05:03,480 violence. Here. He finally came out and said something about 2136 02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:06,750 what's going on in the common on the college campuses. It took 2137 02:05:06,750 --> 02:05:09,930 him forever. And so we know it's got to be the big top of the 2138 02:05:09,930 --> 02:05:14,160 news now, so they get to do three, three networks pretty 2139 02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:17,910 much producing the same story with a variation always from 2140 02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:19,650 CBS. But let's start with ABC. 2141 02:05:21,450 --> 02:05:24,360 Unknown: Tonight the dramatic images of authorities moving in 2142 02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:27,660 during the overnight hours cracking down on protesters at 2143 02:05:27,660 --> 02:05:31,560 UCLA and driving them out, continuing their efforts to oust 2144 02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:37,170 them as the sun came up. University declaring this pro 2145 02:05:37,170 --> 02:05:40,590 Palestinian encampment an unlawful gathering, calling in 2146 02:05:40,620 --> 02:05:46,020 outside help. Hundreds of officers arriving in riot gear, 2147 02:05:46,890 --> 02:05:53,610 firing flashbangs and non lethal ammunition. As officers cleared 2148 02:05:53,610 --> 02:05:56,700 a library where anti war protesters had barricaded 2149 02:05:56,700 --> 02:05:59,580 themselves inside police releasing photos of ball 2150 02:05:59,580 --> 02:06:06,150 bearings and DIY armor they say were homemade weapons. Used to 2151 02:06:06,150 --> 02:06:09,750 force criminal charges. And tonight authorities revealing 2152 02:06:09,750 --> 02:06:14,100 what they say has become all too common outside agitators of the 2153 02:06:14,100 --> 02:06:17,670 12 people arrested in Portland police a just for actually 2154 02:06:17,670 --> 02:06:21,330 students tonight after days of protests across the country. 2155 02:06:21,420 --> 02:06:25,290 President Biden now speaking out saying order must prevail. 2156 02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:25,860 destroying 2157 02:06:25,860 --> 02:06:29,490 property is not a peaceful protest. It's against the law, 2158 02:06:30,120 --> 02:06:34,440 vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows shutting down campuses, 2159 02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:38,250 forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations. None of 2160 02:06:38,250 --> 02:06:40,230 this is a peaceful protest the 2161 02:06:40,230 --> 02:06:43,560 president condemning anti semitism and threats of violence 2162 02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:47,010 against Jewish students. He also spoke out against discrimination 2163 02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:48,570 against Arab Americans, 2164 02:06:48,630 --> 02:06:52,260 there is no place for hate speech or violence of any kind, 2165 02:06:52,260 --> 02:06:56,190 whether it's anti semitism, Islamophobia, or discrimination 2166 02:06:56,190 --> 02:06:59,340 against Arab Americans or Palestinian Americans. It's 2167 02:06:59,340 --> 02:07:00,420 simply wrong. 2168 02:07:00,630 --> 02:07:06,630 Adam Curry: But why it is okay. To say no white, white is okay, 2169 02:07:06,630 --> 02:07:16,080 no problem then. Take YT YT YT can take it or you can take it. 2170 02:07:17,730 --> 02:07:19,800 John C Dvorak: So let's go with MBCs YT. 2171 02:07:21,750 --> 02:07:23,850 Unknown: With the clashes between college campus 2172 02:07:23,850 --> 02:07:26,760 demonstrators and police reaching new heights today 2173 02:07:26,760 --> 02:07:30,090 President Biden condemning violent disruptive protests, 2174 02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:34,560 vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows shutting down key 2175 02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:37,500 Adam Curry: sounds more like faster here. 2176 02:07:38,310 --> 02:07:38,700 John C Dvorak: Yeah. 2177 02:07:38,970 --> 02:07:40,050 Adam Curry: Did they spin them up? 2178 02:07:40,650 --> 02:07:43,800 John C Dvorak: I think they, it would be probably appropriate to 2179 02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:46,500 give to play him at one point to speed that's 2180 02:07:46,500 --> 02:07:48,780 Adam Curry: what they're doing here. They spun his voice up 2181 02:07:48,810 --> 02:07:49,290 below it 2182 02:07:49,290 --> 02:07:51,360 John C Dvorak: had to do a side by side button could be 2183 02:07:51,630 --> 02:07:52,620 vandalism. 2184 02:07:52,890 --> 02:07:55,500 Unknown: trespassing, breaking windows shutting down. 2185 02:07:55,710 --> 02:07:58,110 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I'm gonna obsess over this. If I don't 2186 02:07:58,110 --> 02:08:02,040 just listen for a second. Where's, let me get your ABC 2187 02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:02,520 report. 2188 02:08:04,890 --> 02:08:07,530 Unknown: Tonight, the drunk driving them out continuing 2189 02:08:07,530 --> 02:08:09,990 their effort to oust them as the sun came up. 2190 02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:13,170 John C Dvorak: Whereas a university 2191 02:08:13,170 --> 02:08:15,000 Unknown: declaring this Justinian 2192 02:08:15,330 --> 02:08:18,840 against the law order must prevail. destroying property is 2193 02:08:18,840 --> 02:08:23,370 not a peaceful protest. It's against the law, vandalism, 2194 02:08:23,640 --> 02:08:27,090 trespassing fashion, breaking windows. That's the same as 2195 02:08:27,090 --> 02:08:30,360 shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and 2196 02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:34,620 graduations. None of this is a peaceful protest, threatening 2197 02:08:34,620 --> 02:08:38,520 people, intimidating people. instilling fear in people is not 2198 02:08:38,550 --> 02:08:39,510 peaceful protests 2199 02:08:39,540 --> 02:08:41,970 Adam Curry: against the better question is Which Biden is it? 2200 02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:45,690 That's that's the question. It's 2201 02:08:45,690 --> 02:08:47,910 Unknown: against the law. Nationwide, 2202 02:08:47,940 --> 02:08:51,030 more than 2100 arrests have been made connected with campus 2203 02:08:51,030 --> 02:08:55,200 protests. Today. Portland State University campus closed down as 2204 02:08:55,200 --> 02:08:58,860 police made 12 arrests and cleared the school's library 2205 02:08:59,070 --> 02:09:02,940 overnight for arrested at Yale 90 removed from campus at 2206 02:09:02,940 --> 02:09:06,600 Dartmouth. And at the University of Wisconsin's Madison campus, 2207 02:09:06,660 --> 02:09:10,800 defiant students re establishing their tents just 24 hours after 2208 02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:12,930 police disbanded the encampment there, 2209 02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:16,290 we're gonna be here indefinitely until they meet our demand. Back 2210 02:09:16,290 --> 02:09:17,280 at UCLA 2211 02:09:17,430 --> 02:09:21,000 cleanup is underway with Professor Graham Blair, who was 2212 02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:23,970 arrested this morning and the encampment is defending the 2213 02:09:23,970 --> 02:09:26,880 students right to protest despite some of the tactics 2214 02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:28,200 they've used. I 2215 02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:31,110 think anyone who is worried about graffiti on buildings on a 2216 02:09:31,110 --> 02:09:34,770 college campus used to come visit a college campus. It's 18 2217 02:09:34,770 --> 02:09:37,740 year olds who are learning for the first time how to express 2218 02:09:37,740 --> 02:09:38,550 themselves. 2219 02:09:38,790 --> 02:09:42,780 Adam Curry: Oh, you put him because if you put him to the 2220 02:09:42,780 --> 02:09:45,810 leftist generator, he stays the same. Yeah, 2221 02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:48,900 John C Dvorak: that's for sure. Now, these two reports are 2222 02:09:48,900 --> 02:09:53,760 interesting because ABC concentrated solely on UCLA. 2223 02:09:53,790 --> 02:09:59,790 Yes. And ABC is owned by Disney which is where UCLA is this the 2224 02:09:59,790 --> 02:10:04,890 call Hollywood, you know, UCLA Westwood, as opposed to NBC, 2225 02:10:05,010 --> 02:10:08,670 which had a more kind of eclectic look at all bunch of 2226 02:10:08,670 --> 02:10:10,890 different colleges. So that was kind of an interesting 2227 02:10:10,890 --> 02:10:15,300 comparison. But let's see what the big boys do at CBS the CIA 2228 02:10:15,300 --> 02:10:16,440 Adam Curry: Broadcast Systems. 2229 02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:20,400 Unknown: White House officials say it was the sheer number of 2230 02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:24,240 violent encounters on college campuses over the past two days 2231 02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:26,880 that prompted President Biden to speak out 2232 02:10:27,180 --> 02:10:30,960 right to protest, but not the right to cause chaos. 2233 02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:35,970 His comments came in the wake of nearly 2000 arrests. More than 2234 02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:40,230 30 colleges and universities start during the barricade just 2235 02:10:40,230 --> 02:10:44,160 today, protesters were ejected from a library at Portland State 2236 02:10:44,160 --> 02:10:48,390 University that they had occupied for three days. Inside 2237 02:10:48,390 --> 02:10:52,200 police say they found ball bearings, paint balloons, spray 2238 02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:55,950 bottles of ink and DIY armor. Vandalism, 2239 02:10:56,340 --> 02:10:57,000 trespass 2240 02:10:57,480 --> 02:11:00,120 Adam Curry: breaking DIY armor that's the trash cans are 2241 02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:02,190 talking about is this DIY 2242 02:11:02,670 --> 02:11:05,070 John C Dvorak: girl that was on one of these tick tock videos 2243 02:11:05,070 --> 02:11:08,460 that had a bunch of their armored up now armored is 2244 02:11:08,940 --> 02:11:10,920 worried about rubber bullets. 2245 02:11:10,950 --> 02:11:13,470 Adam Curry: What do I smell? That's my Armor Spray 2246 02:11:13,470 --> 02:11:16,080 Unknown: Bottles of ink and DIY armor, 2247 02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:20,760 vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows shutting down campuses, 2248 02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:24,600 forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations. None of 2249 02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:26,220 this is a peaceful protest. 2250 02:11:28,740 --> 02:11:32,220 Like many protesters, President Biden has expressed concern 2251 02:11:32,220 --> 02:11:36,540 about the plight of Palestinian civilians more than 34,000 2252 02:11:36,540 --> 02:11:41,460 killed according to the Hamas run health ministry. But when 2253 02:11:41,460 --> 02:11:45,060 asked today if he would change his policies towards Israel as 2254 02:11:45,060 --> 02:11:48,540 the protesters have been demanding, Biden said simply 2255 02:11:48,570 --> 02:11:52,650 know, the unrest is now threatening to become an 2256 02:11:52,650 --> 02:11:57,090 election issue. Young people are a key democratic voting bloc. 2257 02:11:57,120 --> 02:12:01,770 Biden needs to listen to what the students are calling for 2258 02:12:01,830 --> 02:12:05,760 which is an end to a genocide funded by the United States. 2259 02:12:05,910 --> 02:12:10,830 So first things first stop funding Israel's in battleground 2260 02:12:10,830 --> 02:12:14,280 Wisconsin, Donald Trump argued Biden should have spoken out 2261 02:12:14,280 --> 02:12:17,280 sooner. There's a big fever in our country and he's not talking 2262 02:12:17,460 --> 02:12:21,030 but Trump also made this unfounded claim about campus 2263 02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:23,850 demonstrators they do come from other countries and 2264 02:12:23,850 --> 02:12:28,650 Adam Curry: they are paid unfounded claim really this this 2265 02:12:28,650 --> 02:12:31,230 is what broke this whole thing is everyone sees it now. 2266 02:12:31,890 --> 02:12:35,730 Everybody sees that half these people aren't at graduated 10 2267 02:12:35,730 --> 02:12:40,770 years ago. We get cold Pink Lady. Yeah, Madea she's running 2268 02:12:40,770 --> 02:12:41,280 Roman is 2269 02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:43,230 John C Dvorak: like she's in their 70s or something she's 2270 02:12:43,230 --> 02:12:43,800 posing as 2271 02:12:44,940 --> 02:12:47,040 Adam Curry: you can just hire her you're gonna hire her and 2272 02:12:47,040 --> 02:12:51,690 all her cronies go anyway. Yeah, hold up the sign. Okay. Donate 2273 02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:59,040 No problem. Good pink meanwhile, looks like no deal yet. No deal. 2274 02:12:59,070 --> 02:13:02,730 Hamas says What? No deal. No deal. And Bibi says no, yes. 2275 02:13:02,850 --> 02:13:06,180 Well, I got a no deal clip. I got an ace no deal. 2276 02:13:06,270 --> 02:13:09,270 Unknown: Israel still has its sights on Rafa and we're no 2277 02:13:09,270 --> 02:13:12,420 closer to a ceasefire. Hamas has poured cold water on the 2278 02:13:12,420 --> 02:13:15,810 optimism surrounding the latest round of talks in Cairo between 2279 02:13:15,810 --> 02:13:19,920 their delegation and Qatari Egyptian and American mediators. 2280 02:13:20,010 --> 02:13:23,700 The AFP quoted a senior Hamas officials saying there will be 2281 02:13:23,700 --> 02:13:27,090 no agreements without a complete cessation of the war and 2282 02:13:27,090 --> 02:13:30,570 accusing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of personally 2283 02:13:30,570 --> 02:13:34,080 hindering the deal. The proposal on the table would halt fighting 2284 02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:37,020 for 40 days and exchange hostages for Palestinian 2285 02:13:37,020 --> 02:13:41,010 prisoners. According to details released by the UK negotiations 2286 02:13:41,010 --> 02:13:44,280 are set to continue on Sunday. But Israel is yet to send a 2287 02:13:44,280 --> 02:13:47,580 delegation to the Egyptian capitol. late on Friday, US 2288 02:13:47,580 --> 02:13:50,340 Secretary of State Antony Blinken said accepting a 2289 02:13:50,340 --> 02:13:54,030 ceasefire deal should be a quote, no brainer for her mass. 2290 02:13:54,090 --> 02:13:57,030 And the reality in this moment is the only thing standing 2291 02:13:57,030 --> 02:13:59,160 between the people of Gaza and a ceasefire 2292 02:13:59,400 --> 02:14:02,880 is a mosque protesters kept up the pressure on Netanyahu on 2293 02:14:02,880 --> 02:14:06,750 Saturday turning out in their 1000s again in Tel Aviv to 2294 02:14:06,750 --> 02:14:10,260 demand the government except to ceasefire deal and secure the 2295 02:14:10,260 --> 02:14:13,800 release of the remaining hostages Netanyahu is found not 2296 02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:17,610 to stop the war until Hamas is destroyed and faces pressure 2297 02:14:17,610 --> 02:14:20,670 from nationalists in his coalition to go ahead with the 2298 02:14:20,670 --> 02:14:23,640 offensive against the southern Gaza City of Rafa. 2299 02:14:24,180 --> 02:14:26,880 Adam Curry: You know and I think I think the problem is Hamas 2300 02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:29,190 doesn't have 33 hostages anymore. 2301 02:14:29,700 --> 02:14:31,890 John C Dvorak: I think they're all dead but but that was you 2302 02:14:31,890 --> 02:14:36,240 get that clip. That's France 24 Because they get France they 2303 02:14:36,270 --> 02:14:39,000 kind of left it. They made it sound as though Blinken set in 2304 02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:40,200 negotiations. He's 2305 02:14:40,200 --> 02:14:43,080 Adam Curry: not he wasn't even there. Was he in no in fact, I 2306 02:14:43,080 --> 02:14:46,230 John C Dvorak: have a clip. This is from Al Jazeera which kind of 2307 02:14:46,230 --> 02:14:50,730 brings in very interesting who's actually at these negotiations. 2308 02:14:50,760 --> 02:14:54,330 Adam Curry: Let me guess CIA tell me the CIA is there. 2309 02:14:55,710 --> 02:14:56,430 John C Dvorak: You nailed it 2310 02:14:56,460 --> 02:14:58,200 Adam Curry: well, what's what's the clip what's the clip was 2311 02:14:58,200 --> 02:14:59,220 ceasefire 2312 02:14:59,220 --> 02:15:02,040 John C Dvorak: delegation. AJ got it. 2313 02:15:02,220 --> 02:15:04,800 Unknown: Gaza where the humanitarian situation across 2314 02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:07,710 the strip is getting worse by the day there have been more 2315 02:15:07,710 --> 02:15:12,180 attacks, more displacements, and more suffering. But diplomatic 2316 02:15:12,210 --> 02:15:15,840 efforts to reach a ceasefire deal are ramping up all eyes are 2317 02:15:15,840 --> 02:15:19,260 on Cairo on Saturday where Hamas delegation is holding talks with 2318 02:15:19,260 --> 02:15:23,070 mediators from Egypt and Qatar, as well as the CIA director, 2319 02:15:23,070 --> 02:15:23,400 William. 2320 02:15:26,340 --> 02:15:30,360 Adam Curry: Now, we should mention, these talks are taking 2321 02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:34,590 place in Egypt. And what neither of these outfits are saying is 2322 02:15:34,620 --> 02:15:39,060 Egypt is very key to the resolution of all this, because 2323 02:15:39,060 --> 02:15:42,750 we know Egypt has received 7 billion euros from the European 2324 02:15:42,750 --> 02:15:47,160 Union to build camps, which will be you know, like, I'm sure it's 2325 02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:52,260 like holiday, holiday camps, holiday camps, then they'll open 2326 02:15:52,260 --> 02:15:57,420 up their border, which is closed, shot tight, and then 2327 02:15:57,420 --> 02:16:03,210 some of them will be migrated into Europe. And I'm pretty sure 2328 02:16:03,210 --> 02:16:06,930 that pier that we're building there for humanitarian aid, 2329 02:16:06,960 --> 02:16:10,170 that's where people will be able to hop off and get onto a boat 2330 02:16:10,170 --> 02:16:14,520 and go to America. So Egypt, Egypt is a big player in this 2331 02:16:14,520 --> 02:16:17,400 and it's not really discussed, unless you have something in 2332 02:16:17,400 --> 02:16:19,170 this next clip, not 2333 02:16:19,170 --> 02:16:21,300 John C Dvorak: about Egypt being a big player, but it finishes 2334 02:16:21,300 --> 02:16:25,830 off the thought about we have it's actually this guy, that 2335 02:16:25,830 --> 02:16:30,570 guy, the other guy in this our CIA guy, which is like, okay, 2336 02:16:31,080 --> 02:16:31,500 yeah, 2337 02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:34,440 Unknown: all right. The group says it's studying the latest 2338 02:16:34,440 --> 02:16:37,980 Israeli proposal in a positive manner. But sticking points do 2339 02:16:37,980 --> 02:16:40,770 remain. Israel wants the return of the captives being held in 2340 02:16:40,770 --> 02:16:45,330 Gaza, and Hamas is insisting on a permanent end to the war. 2341 02:16:45,840 --> 02:16:49,200 Those talks come as the UN warns that northern Gaza is now 2342 02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:53,250 experiencing a full blown famine and moving towards the south, 2343 02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:56,220 the head of the World Food Program is urging negotiators to 2344 02:16:56,220 --> 02:16:59,310 reach a ceasefire as soon as possible to save lives. 2345 02:16:59,339 --> 02:17:02,279 Adam Curry: Ah, do you know who the head of the World Food 2346 02:17:02,279 --> 02:17:03,359 Program is? 2347 02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:06,540 John C Dvorak: I'm going to find out. 2348 02:17:07,140 --> 02:17:09,240 Adam Curry: You'll be surprised you're gonna tell me I hear a 2349 02:17:09,240 --> 02:17:10,260 Kobs Here it comes. 2350 02:17:10,290 --> 02:17:13,080 Unknown: I just want to be very clear, because what you're 2351 02:17:13,080 --> 02:17:16,230 saying is significant. And I believe it's the first time 2352 02:17:16,230 --> 02:17:20,940 we've heard it. You're saying there is full blown famine? Yes. 2353 02:17:20,970 --> 02:17:26,130 In Northern Gaza? FBF. Yes, I am. And there has not been an 2354 02:17:26,130 --> 02:17:29,160 official declaration that there is known but you are saying that 2355 02:17:29,160 --> 02:17:32,310 based on what you've seen? Yes, it is. Based on what we've seen 2356 02:17:32,310 --> 02:17:36,060 in what we've experienced on the ground. Yes. Which is, it's, 2357 02:17:36,150 --> 02:17:39,930 it's hard. It's, you know, it's, it's so hard to look at, and 2358 02:17:39,930 --> 02:17:46,080 it's so hard to hear also. So I'm just I'm so hoping that we 2359 02:17:46,080 --> 02:17:51,300 can get a ceasefire and, and begin to to feed these people, 2360 02:17:51,840 --> 02:17:56,610 especially in the north, in a more in a much faster fashion, 2361 02:17:56,610 --> 02:18:00,420 but also including, as I said, water, sanitation, medicine. 2362 02:18:00,420 --> 02:18:04,290 It's all part of the famine, the famine issue. And it's also 2363 02:18:04,290 --> 02:18:07,620 something that we need to make sure that the world understands 2364 02:18:07,620 --> 02:18:12,210 we can't let this happen. It just in this day and age when 2365 02:18:12,210 --> 02:18:17,220 the when the world has the ability to feed itself 10 times 2366 02:18:17,220 --> 02:18:20,610 over. Nobody should starve. Nobody should starve. 2367 02:18:20,640 --> 02:18:25,950 Adam Curry: That was Cindy McCain. Widow of John McCain. 2368 02:18:25,980 --> 02:18:29,160 She is the executive director of the food World Food Program. 2369 02:18:30,480 --> 02:18:33,870 Keep them busy. Interesting, isn't it? Yeah, 2370 02:18:34,019 --> 02:18:37,289 John C Dvorak: I have a kind of a side clip is similar that has 2371 02:18:37,289 --> 02:18:40,019 something to do with this situation. This is the Houthis 2372 02:18:40,049 --> 02:18:44,249 new threat. Have you heard this? No. Okay. The 2373 02:18:44,250 --> 02:18:48,060 Unknown: crowd chanting the Red Sea is blocked. The Iran backed 2374 02:18:48,060 --> 02:18:51,570 Houthi terrorist group in Yemen has been firing at ships in the 2375 02:18:51,570 --> 02:18:55,140 Red Sea that it thinks are headed to Israel as a show of 2376 02:18:55,140 --> 02:18:57,210 support for the Palestinian people. 2377 02:18:57,419 --> 02:19:00,509 During the rally, a spokesman for the Houthi said that if 2378 02:19:00,539 --> 02:19:03,959 Israel proceeds with ground operations in Rafah in the 2379 02:19:03,959 --> 02:19:07,139 southern Gaza Strip, then the Houthis would expand their 2380 02:19:07,139 --> 02:19:11,519 operations, but it remains unclear exactly how the Houthis 2381 02:19:11,519 --> 02:19:14,819 would carry out the threat. Despite that Israel's Prime 2382 02:19:14,819 --> 02:19:18,599 Minister says he remains undeterred in achieving Israel's 2383 02:19:18,599 --> 02:19:19,649 main objectives in 2384 02:19:19,650 --> 02:19:23,820 the war, which are defeating Hamas ensuring Gaza will no 2385 02:19:23,820 --> 02:19:27,690 longer be a threat to Israel and returning all the hostages 2386 02:19:28,650 --> 02:19:30,510 Adam Curry: are making great efforts. We have already 2387 02:19:30,510 --> 02:19:33,450 returned half. And I can tell you that we are determined to 2388 02:19:33,450 --> 02:19:36,750 return everyone the ones who are alive as well as the ones who 2389 02:19:36,750 --> 02:19:41,790 are dead. Yeah, I got a bad feeling about this. I think they 2390 02:19:41,790 --> 02:19:45,450 don't have they don't have the hostages. They don't have and I 2391 02:19:45,450 --> 02:19:48,180 think Benjamin not yet Netanyahu is going to get blamed for 2392 02:19:48,180 --> 02:19:54,000 dragging his heels. Why you took too long. If he ever comes to a 2393 02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:54,480 deal 2394 02:19:56,910 --> 02:19:58,830 John C Dvorak: I'm sticking with my thesis you're going to do a 2395 02:19:58,830 --> 02:20:02,280 ceasefire and incessantly and they're going to wait, getting 2396 02:20:02,280 --> 02:20:06,450 closer to the election, the bracket and then break it 2397 02:20:06,450 --> 02:20:09,930 conventions, and then it'll be broken by by the Hamas 2398 02:20:10,500 --> 02:20:15,270 terrorists, something will happen. Yeah. And it'll go back 2399 02:20:15,270 --> 02:20:20,310 into full blown war and then the protesters can take down to 2400 02:20:20,310 --> 02:20:22,080 Democrats at the convention. So 2401 02:20:22,080 --> 02:20:24,870 Adam Curry: we've got on the table, we have 40 days of 2402 02:20:24,870 --> 02:20:31,380 cessation, which is not long enough for 33 hostages, which is 2403 02:20:31,380 --> 02:20:37,170 a magic number. Bringing out Sidney McCain that bugs me. We 2404 02:20:37,170 --> 02:20:40,500 had guests so what is she's like? What credit does she have 2405 02:20:40,500 --> 02:20:43,950 to become the executive director of the World Food Program? 2406 02:20:44,490 --> 02:20:47,220 John C Dvorak: Let's take a look at her bio. And maybe we can 2407 02:20:47,220 --> 02:20:50,550 determine which agency she's associated with. 2408 02:20:55,620 --> 02:20:57,570 Adam Curry: Taking look at that, and I'm going to play this this 2409 02:20:57,570 --> 02:21:01,470 was encouraging to me because I thought when Turkey a would 2410 02:21:01,530 --> 02:21:05,220 formerly known as Turkey, and they do this i I'm thinking 2411 02:21:05,220 --> 02:21:07,650 they're close to a deal. The complete suspension 2412 02:21:07,650 --> 02:21:10,830 Unknown: of trade with Israel, is a significant escalation of 2413 02:21:10,830 --> 02:21:14,370 Turkey has diplomatic efforts to pressure Israel, Ankara is 2414 02:21:14,370 --> 02:21:17,280 demanding an immediate ceasefire and the free flow of 2415 02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:18,990 humanitarian aid into Gaza. 2416 02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:23,310 We're taking some commercial measures to force Israel to 2417 02:21:23,310 --> 02:21:26,190 increase the amount of humanitarian aid to pass through 2418 02:21:26,190 --> 02:21:30,360 and enter Gaza. First, we impose export restrictions on 54 2419 02:21:30,360 --> 02:21:34,140 product groups. And as of Thursday, we have stopped export 2420 02:21:34,170 --> 02:21:37,530 and import transactions with Israel, covering all products 2421 02:21:37,560 --> 02:21:39,690 that we will manage the consequences of these steps 2422 02:21:39,690 --> 02:21:42,750 together with our business world. We are not looking for 2423 02:21:42,750 --> 02:21:46,500 enmity, and fighting with any country in our region. They tell 2424 02:21:46,500 --> 02:21:50,010 me this may cause some troubles. I say that we believe that God 2425 02:21:50,010 --> 02:21:53,070 is the only power that can eliminate all troubles, and we 2426 02:21:53,070 --> 02:21:56,190 are doing the right thing. When a ceasefire is declared and 2427 02:21:56,190 --> 02:21:59,940 enough aid is allowed to enter Gaza, the goal will be achieved. 2428 02:22:01,140 --> 02:22:03,270 Adam Curry: I haven't think Turkey wouldn't think they got 2429 02:22:03,270 --> 02:22:08,340 enough problems already. So now there's a stopping all trade 2430 02:22:08,370 --> 02:22:09,480 they have like they have a lot of 2431 02:22:09,630 --> 02:22:12,480 John C Dvorak: I have a little bit of a analysis of what you 2432 02:22:12,480 --> 02:22:16,410 just played. Okay. This is the turkey cutting off Israel, this 2433 02:22:16,410 --> 02:22:20,640 guy, this is only part of a long tail again, from Al Jazeera. A 2434 02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:24,510 long discussion. And this guy makes the claim that Turkey is 2435 02:22:24,510 --> 02:22:26,610 taken into shorts for doing this. 2436 02:22:26,640 --> 02:22:28,260 Adam Curry: That's what that's why I'm thinking they got to be 2437 02:22:28,260 --> 02:22:30,990 close to a deal. Why else would Turkey do this 2438 02:22:31,230 --> 02:22:34,650 Unknown: talk he made there, he made it absolutely clear. And 2439 02:22:34,650 --> 02:22:39,600 it's not against people said of Israel? Not certainly, but he 2440 02:22:39,630 --> 02:22:42,900 single out especially the administration on named Mr. 2441 02:22:42,900 --> 02:22:45,840 Netanyahu calling him as an impossible person to deal with. 2442 02:22:46,050 --> 02:22:51,660 So until drastic measures taken, the bamboo will continue. So now 2443 02:22:51,660 --> 02:22:56,670 I'm sure the loss of revenues in the tourism obvious, very 2444 02:22:56,670 --> 02:23:00,120 important, but what would be quite upsetting is that let's 2445 02:23:00,150 --> 02:23:03,480 you know, like a Muslim country against the Jewish state type of 2446 02:23:03,480 --> 02:23:06,540 thing that will be very wrong because Israeli the tourists 2447 02:23:06,570 --> 02:23:10,260 were always welcomed in Turkey. And they're kind of the causing 2448 02:23:10,260 --> 02:23:13,500 no danger to them. So they love coming 600,000 people as 2449 02:23:13,500 --> 02:23:17,280 mentioned, coming and going. So I think behind it, you know, I 2450 02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:19,800 assume especially now the tourism season is approaching 2451 02:23:19,800 --> 02:23:23,400 the summer, there will be efforts to probably single up 2452 02:23:23,400 --> 02:23:29,520 this particular point. But I'm sure it's going to be a major 2453 02:23:30,150 --> 02:23:35,010 line of discussion or important part of this band. But again, 2454 02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:38,610 Turkey seems to bear all costs. The decision is there, an 2455 02:23:38,610 --> 02:23:39,360 official announced 2456 02:23:40,530 --> 02:23:42,870 John C Dvorak: did bear all costs. He also mentioned that 2457 02:23:42,900 --> 02:23:46,830 Turkish airways, which by the way is a great carrier, Turkish 2458 02:23:46,830 --> 02:23:51,600 airways, it had 15 flights a day going in and out of Israel to 2459 02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:54,660 various points and those all been cut offs since the 2460 02:23:54,660 --> 02:23:57,540 beginning of this thing and it's costing them an arm and a leg. 2461 02:23:57,570 --> 02:24:02,580 That's a big deal. Yeah, so they're losing out the Turks are 2462 02:24:02,580 --> 02:24:05,280 losing out. Of course, it's not as though Burdwan has done much 2463 02:24:05,280 --> 02:24:06,360 for the economy. 2464 02:24:07,740 --> 02:24:12,090 Adam Curry: Hmm, well, maybe maybe we can solve some of this 2465 02:24:12,090 --> 02:24:17,040 in the way that that the that Europe likes to operate. Maybe 2466 02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:22,470 we can solve this by taking the vote to the people. With the 2467 02:24:22,470 --> 02:24:25,260 Eurovision Song Contest united 2468 02:24:25,260 --> 02:24:28,710 Unknown: by music. This year's Eurovision slogan couldn't be 2469 02:24:28,710 --> 02:24:32,490 further from the truth. The annual feel good celebration is 2470 02:24:32,490 --> 02:24:35,970 shrouded by controversy over Israel's participation amid the 2471 02:24:35,970 --> 02:24:39,450 war in Gaza. direct threats have been made against a stinger 2472 02:24:39,450 --> 02:24:42,810 representing Israel and 1000s are expected to gather in 2473 02:24:42,810 --> 02:24:44,490 protest when the event starts 2474 02:24:45,330 --> 02:24:48,990 on sugar for producing some quick count on 20 to 40,000 2475 02:24:48,990 --> 02:24:53,250 demonstrators coming to Malmo coming from all over Europe. It 2476 02:24:53,250 --> 02:24:57,360 will be a very big protests to hold it about 100,000 2477 02:24:57,360 --> 02:25:00,900 visitors are expected in Sweden, southwest coast City of Malmo 2478 02:25:00,900 --> 02:25:03,990 for the event where the police authorized a Koran burning 2479 02:25:03,990 --> 02:25:10,920 demonstration on Friday. In this tense context, security is a top 2480 02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:12,720 priority. British police 2481 02:25:12,720 --> 02:25:16,380 so there are lots of police on the ground throughout the 2482 02:25:16,920 --> 02:25:19,980 reinforcements from all over 2483 02:25:25,320 --> 02:25:29,700 events. Another major well conflict is expected to be at 2484 02:25:29,700 --> 02:25:32,970 the heart of the event, Ukrainian group Aliona Aliona 2485 02:25:32,970 --> 02:25:36,630 and Jerry Hill will be defending the blue and yellow flag. If you 2486 02:25:36,660 --> 02:25:42,330 talk a lot about your situation. People hear you so now I feel 2487 02:25:42,330 --> 02:25:46,710 that people heard us still now we're here to talk. Yeah, if 2488 02:25:46,710 --> 02:25:49,980 they win the deal, say they plan to sell their trophy and donate 2489 02:25:49,980 --> 02:25:53,100 the proceeds to the war efforts. Like their predecessors who 2490 02:25:53,100 --> 02:25:56,250 raised 900,000 euros in an auction on Facebook. 2491 02:25:56,370 --> 02:25:59,070 Adam Curry: I'm telling you this is going to be an interesting 2492 02:25:59,070 --> 02:26:03,750 show this year because Malmo is filled with immigrants and their 2493 02:26:03,750 --> 02:26:06,300 Brunello is the ground 2494 02:26:06,540 --> 02:26:09,510 John C Dvorak: ground ground zero for the Muslims in Sweden? 2495 02:26:09,540 --> 02:26:10,260 Yes. 2496 02:26:11,340 --> 02:26:14,850 Adam Curry: And then and they just authorize the Quran burning 2497 02:26:15,120 --> 02:26:18,630 smart move what yeah, why that's what they just said they just 2498 02:26:18,630 --> 02:26:19,590 had it in the beginning. No, I 2499 02:26:19,590 --> 02:26:21,450 John C Dvorak: heard that. I'm thinking what are they thinking? 2500 02:26:21,450 --> 02:26:25,590 This is like not necessarily a good idea for ratings. 2501 02:26:25,710 --> 02:26:26,400 Adam Curry: Are you nuts? 2502 02:26:26,430 --> 02:26:30,420 John C Dvorak: Oh, well, they got that idea down. Everybody's 2503 02:26:30,420 --> 02:26:33,270 Adam Curry: gonna tune in this year. I can't wait. Who's airing 2504 02:26:33,270 --> 02:26:33,960 it this year? 2505 02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:37,020 John C Dvorak: Nobody here No, no, 2506 02:26:37,200 --> 02:26:40,380 Adam Curry: no, no, no we do we aired here this um, someone 2507 02:26:40,380 --> 02:26:43,830 Paramount plus or something. Something that's going out of 2508 02:26:43,830 --> 02:26:47,160 business. Did you find out about Cindy, you get any details on 2509 02:26:47,160 --> 02:26:48,330 Cindy? Yeah. Is 2510 02:26:48,330 --> 02:26:55,350 John C Dvorak: she is rich. Which because she or dad owned 2511 02:26:55,350 --> 02:26:58,950 the biggest Budweiser distributor. Oh, so she didn't 2512 02:26:58,950 --> 02:27:02,340 even die. She inherited all that money. And she's been one of 2513 02:27:02,340 --> 02:27:06,360 those rich liberal fool even though she's the conservative, 2514 02:27:06,780 --> 02:27:11,610 technically philanthropist for years and she's I guess she's 2515 02:27:11,610 --> 02:27:15,240 been involved with a number of operations that gave her the the 2516 02:27:15,240 --> 02:27:17,790 chops to go do this what she's doing money 2517 02:27:17,820 --> 02:27:22,230 Adam Curry: money laundering. Just Yes. Just guessing just to 2518 02:27:22,230 --> 02:27:22,620 give I 2519 02:27:22,620 --> 02:27:27,330 John C Dvorak: think it was she was the Junior Rodeo Queen In 2520 02:27:27,330 --> 02:27:28,980 1968 barrel 2521 02:27:29,010 --> 02:27:30,510 Adam Curry: barrel. Barrel 2522 02:27:30,540 --> 02:27:32,100 John C Dvorak: writer doesn't say 2523 02:27:32,790 --> 02:27:35,130 Adam Curry: hey, I got a boots on the ground report from inside 2524 02:27:35,130 --> 02:27:37,230 Lockheed Martin. Yes, 2525 02:27:37,230 --> 02:27:39,450 John C Dvorak: barrel racer by the barrel racer, thank you. 2526 02:27:41,040 --> 02:27:43,470 Adam Curry: boots on the ground from inside Lockheed Martin. 2527 02:27:43,470 --> 02:27:48,150 This is the defense industrial base. Lots of money flowing in 2528 02:27:48,150 --> 02:27:51,120 and always good to hear from our producers boots on the ground. 2529 02:27:51,330 --> 02:27:55,770 They are truly the courageous and get mo nation. We from time 2530 02:27:55,770 --> 02:27:59,640 to time get walkthroughs by military brass. Yesterday, it 2531 02:27:59,640 --> 02:28:02,160 was what I thought would be the same as usual. The major talk 2532 02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:05,880 start as usual, quote, We are safe because of what you build 2533 02:28:06,030 --> 02:28:10,680 Blackhawks, yada, yada, yada, and quote, It then took a 2534 02:28:10,680 --> 02:28:14,940 serious turn. He went on to say that not only do they expect on 2535 02:28:14,940 --> 02:28:20,100 time deliveries, to asking for them to be delivered early. He 2536 02:28:20,100 --> 02:28:23,610 said that for the first time in his career. Upper command was 2537 02:28:23,610 --> 02:28:26,970 not saying the usual quote, threat of global conflict 2538 02:28:26,970 --> 02:28:32,010 existed. Now they're saying it's going to happen soon. Wah wah, 2539 02:28:32,010 --> 02:28:36,810 wah wah. But he went on to say that for the first time, the USA 2540 02:28:36,810 --> 02:28:41,310 is not the guaranteed Victor, hence the need for faster 2541 02:28:41,310 --> 02:28:46,410 deliveries. This is a concerning report. After he was done with 2542 02:28:46,410 --> 02:28:50,880 his talk, management asked if anyone had any questions. I 2543 02:28:50,880 --> 02:28:53,880 could not let him down or the show. I kind of have a 2544 02:28:53,880 --> 02:28:56,760 reputation for asking uncomfortable questions. I 2545 02:28:56,760 --> 02:29:01,050 raised my hand and asked why our victory was being questioned. he 2546 02:29:01,050 --> 02:29:05,340 rambled about rising powers, destabilize Middle East and all 2547 02:29:05,340 --> 02:29:10,080 that. So I looked him in the eye and I simply said, Who? He 2548 02:29:10,080 --> 02:29:13,320 returned my gaze, not looking for an Emmy here, but it was 2549 02:29:13,320 --> 02:29:18,810 quite intense. He simply said, China. Yeah, I thanked him for 2550 02:29:18,810 --> 02:29:22,470 saying it out loud. After this was over, he approached me and 2551 02:29:22,470 --> 02:29:25,620 thanked me for the question. He said he isn't allowed to say 2552 02:29:25,620 --> 02:29:29,820 China, but he could answer that question. He thought that this 2553 02:29:29,820 --> 02:29:35,280 information will be huge. Yes. Because I think this ties in 2554 02:29:35,280 --> 02:29:38,940 with the latest Ukraine cash dump. We have billions to spend 2555 02:29:38,940 --> 02:29:43,410 now. So yeah, I think that's a very interesting boots on the 2556 02:29:43,410 --> 02:29:43,980 ground. 2557 02:29:45,420 --> 02:29:47,640 John C Dvorak: We'll see what happens. Well, 2558 02:29:47,670 --> 02:29:50,190 Adam Curry: there. It's the pivot towards Indo Pacific. 2559 02:29:50,610 --> 02:29:51,270 That's well, there's 2560 02:29:51,270 --> 02:29:53,940 John C Dvorak: definitely that and that's no doubt about it. 2561 02:29:54,630 --> 02:29:56,280 We'll be building a lot of boats. 2562 02:29:58,200 --> 02:30:02,430 Adam Curry: quick little update. He on the big pharma industry. 2563 02:30:03,300 --> 02:30:08,640 We've had a lot of heart issues ever since COVID is very 2564 02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:14,220 baffling. Jeff Lane is baffling to the medical industry. What 2565 02:30:14,250 --> 02:30:18,210 could have changed during COVID? What could it be? Why it's so 2566 02:30:18,210 --> 02:30:22,320 hard to understand what could it be? That is causing heart 2567 02:30:22,320 --> 02:30:26,760 attacks, particularly young people? Left and Right, we just 2568 02:30:26,760 --> 02:30:31,410 don't understand. But luckily, NBC has some answers. For us, 2569 02:30:31,440 --> 02:30:31,560 there 2570 02:30:31,560 --> 02:30:35,220 Unknown: is more evidence that actual anger is in fact, really 2571 02:30:35,220 --> 02:30:36,060 bad for your health. 2572 02:30:36,060 --> 02:30:38,430 All right. Previous studies have shown there's a link between 2573 02:30:38,430 --> 02:30:41,910 frequent anger and an increased risk of heart attack. But now 2574 02:30:41,910 --> 02:30:44,010 there's a new study out in the Journal of the American Heart 2575 02:30:44,010 --> 02:30:47,220 Association that is helping explain why that is. Yeah, 2576 02:30:47,220 --> 02:30:51,270 so NBC News Medical contributor, Dr. John Torres is here to walk 2577 02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:54,420 through it. He's very going to calmly walk us through this. So 2578 02:30:54,420 --> 02:30:57,810 actually, if you have an outburst of anger, it shows up 2579 02:30:57,900 --> 02:30:59,190 in your heart. It does. 2580 02:30:59,190 --> 02:31:01,410 And what we've known is that anger over time, these strong 2581 02:31:01,410 --> 02:31:03,870 emotions can really have an effect on your heart increased 2582 02:31:03,870 --> 02:31:06,510 risk of heart attack, increased risk of stroke, cardiovascular 2583 02:31:06,510 --> 02:31:09,660 issues, but what this study showed is even one episode and 2584 02:31:09,660 --> 02:31:12,690 these episodes as they multiply over your life can cause the 2585 02:31:12,690 --> 02:31:15,630 impact isn't that one episode can cause similar type 2586 02:31:15,630 --> 02:31:18,060 situations, and can you increase your risk? Well, these type of 2587 02:31:18,060 --> 02:31:18,750 things, so 2588 02:31:18,750 --> 02:31:22,830 does that like, like Rayji, or irritation? 2589 02:31:23,850 --> 02:31:26,640 In the study, they had the students looking at a study just 2590 02:31:26,670 --> 02:31:28,740 reviewing something that happened in their past that made 2591 02:31:28,740 --> 02:31:31,530 them anger. So they were just reliving an angry episode. So it 2592 02:31:31,530 --> 02:31:33,900 doesn't necessarily have to be that heavy of an episode. So 2593 02:31:33,900 --> 02:31:36,150 if you're in traffic one day, and you're raging and you yell 2594 02:31:36,150 --> 02:31:38,160 at your kids later that week, and you're raging and all these 2595 02:31:38,160 --> 02:31:40,410 things, is it regime cumulative it 2596 02:31:40,410 --> 02:31:43,800 is. It is cumulative. And what happens is, is when this is 2597 02:31:43,800 --> 02:31:47,190 happening on the blood level set stage here, so think of it like 2598 02:31:47,190 --> 02:31:49,320 a straw, your blood vessels are like a straw that you want them 2599 02:31:49,320 --> 02:31:52,080 to be wide, so it's easy to get that fluid through the blood to 2600 02:31:52,080 --> 02:31:55,410 get to the organs. When you have an anger episode, those blood 2601 02:31:55,410 --> 02:31:58,440 vessels constrict. So it's like a straw, you're trying to get 2602 02:31:58,440 --> 02:32:00,930 the same fluids through and it's not working. It's not giving to 2603 02:32:00,930 --> 02:32:03,780 the organs, the heart and the brain as well. Plus, if you have 2604 02:32:03,780 --> 02:32:06,420 athletic sclerotic plaques, if you have plaques inside there, 2605 02:32:06,510 --> 02:32:09,030 they'll break off and that can cause a heart attack or stroke. 2606 02:32:09,930 --> 02:32:13,080 on that level when you have that episode, and those can build up 2607 02:32:13,080 --> 02:32:13,650 over time. 2608 02:32:14,760 --> 02:32:19,290 Adam Curry: I will say that in the in October, it will be 17 2609 02:32:19,290 --> 02:32:22,410 years we've done this podcast, I do not think I can remember a 2610 02:32:22,410 --> 02:32:26,760 single time that you were mad are Rayji as they say, here at 2611 02:32:26,760 --> 02:32:27,330 NBC. 2612 02:32:27,840 --> 02:32:29,400 John C Dvorak: I'm happening mad now. 2613 02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:32,880 Adam Curry: I don't think I've ever heard. And this is why 2614 02:32:33,120 --> 02:32:34,200 you're still with us. 2615 02:32:35,610 --> 02:32:38,580 John C Dvorak: It's clear. Yeah, yeah, I think maybe not getting 2616 02:32:38,580 --> 02:32:42,150 the VAX is probably more responsive. No, no, no, no, no, 2617 02:32:42,150 --> 02:32:44,910 Adam Curry: no, no. What are you saying? Let's talk about how to 2618 02:32:44,910 --> 02:32:45,840 handle your anger. 2619 02:32:46,170 --> 02:32:48,150 Unknown: Could you raise yourself in one episode and 2620 02:32:49,200 --> 02:32:51,990 potentially could you know, if you're young, if you're healthy, 2621 02:32:51,990 --> 02:32:54,810 and you have these raging anger episodes, it's probably not a 2622 02:32:54,810 --> 02:32:57,330 big deal. At that time. If you're older and you have one 2623 02:32:57,870 --> 02:33:02,370 issue, we've all seen the movies where somebody attacks attacked 2624 02:33:02,580 --> 02:33:05,190 over time, these could cumulate and these could cause problems. 2625 02:33:05,190 --> 02:33:06,420 And that's what the researchers are saying. 2626 02:33:06,840 --> 02:33:09,090 Adam Curry: I'm sorry, that's how to handle you're angry. This 2627 02:33:09,090 --> 02:33:12,450 is a short clip. This is how you hide you. How do you handle your 2628 02:33:12,450 --> 02:33:13,260 anger? How do we do it? 2629 02:33:13,620 --> 02:33:14,700 Unknown: How do you get anger out? What's 2630 02:33:14,700 --> 02:33:16,500 Adam Curry: the best way so how do you get anger out? How do we 2631 02:33:16,500 --> 02:33:16,980 get it out? 2632 02:33:17,220 --> 02:33:19,230 Unknown: Get it out of my heart and the best thing is just to 2633 02:33:19,230 --> 02:33:22,110 use these calming techniques and they sound cliche, and the 2634 02:33:22,110 --> 02:33:23,940 biggest one my wife taught me this you know breathing 2635 02:33:23,940 --> 02:33:27,210 exercises into the nose out to the mouth they help it really I 2636 02:33:27,210 --> 02:33:28,260 can't I can't 2637 02:33:28,260 --> 02:33:30,300 Adam Curry: stand this breathing you know, how 2638 02:33:30,300 --> 02:33:31,680 John C Dvorak: about the heavy bag 2639 02:33:34,890 --> 02:33:39,390 Adam Curry: it's so it's so unbelievable, that it is 2640 02:33:39,390 --> 02:33:42,300 believable. And then I'll just wind up with believing this 2641 02:33:42,300 --> 02:33:46,170 totally believe I wind up with this. And now as far as we know 2642 02:33:46,170 --> 02:33:50,970 the only countries where you can advertise direct to consumer for 2643 02:33:51,000 --> 02:33:54,030 pharmaceutical products is the United States and New Zealand I 2644 02:33:54,030 --> 02:34:01,290 do you not think Canada allows this but the CBC, I mean every 2645 02:34:01,710 --> 02:34:05,580 everything is so corrupt. They they had someone sent me three 2646 02:34:05,580 --> 02:34:10,170 different pieces, all the same the imagery, you know injecting 2647 02:34:10,170 --> 02:34:15,060 into your leg the same girl the same story because fear not 2648 02:34:15,060 --> 02:34:18,780 Canadians, even though this is not a commercial you know as 2649 02:34:18,780 --> 02:34:21,630 well can get the weight loss shot. Canadian 2650 02:34:21,630 --> 02:34:24,480 Unknown: struggling with obesity will have a new treatment option 2651 02:34:24,480 --> 02:34:28,110 next week. The makers of ozempic say their weight loss drug would 2652 02:34:28,110 --> 02:34:32,310 govi will be available in Canada starting Monday. Bamford has 2653 02:34:32,310 --> 02:34:34,890 more on the risks and the rewards 2654 02:34:35,820 --> 02:34:39,030 Adam Curry: are different. What happened to benefits? It's not 2655 02:34:39,030 --> 02:34:44,340 just a risk, it's a reward now, risk and rewards Hey, I got a 2656 02:34:44,340 --> 02:34:47,640 reward for taking this medication and the rewards 2657 02:34:48,540 --> 02:34:51,780 Unknown: a different name with different packaging but experts 2658 02:34:51,780 --> 02:34:55,800 say we'll go V is essentially a drug Canadians already had 2659 02:34:55,800 --> 02:34:57,180 access to will 2660 02:34:57,180 --> 02:35:01,350 go Mi is ozempic and Mozambique is This whole coffee I love 2661 02:35:01,350 --> 02:35:05,130 Adam Curry: this. So just so you know, it's the same product as 2662 02:35:05,130 --> 02:35:07,260 the one you've been hearing about from the Kardashians so 2663 02:35:07,260 --> 02:35:10,410 you can take this it's ozempic don't worry it says we'll go we 2664 02:35:10,410 --> 02:35:11,250 but it's so what you're 2665 02:35:11,250 --> 02:35:14,490 John C Dvorak: saying is that this is a native ad which is 2666 02:35:14,550 --> 02:35:17,100 should be illegal in Canada completely 2667 02:35:17,100 --> 02:35:19,770 Unknown: ins already had access to will go 2668 02:35:19,770 --> 02:35:23,640 V is ozempic and ozempic is will go V will go V 2669 02:35:23,640 --> 02:35:27,930 is classified as an anti obesity medication. ozempic is a type 2670 02:35:27,930 --> 02:35:32,730 two diabetes drug both contain the molecule semaglutide. It 2671 02:35:32,730 --> 02:35:34,800 helps us with feeling fuller 2672 02:35:34,830 --> 02:35:39,540 longer, and helps her brain understand that we're in good 2673 02:35:39,630 --> 02:35:42,960 health Canada approved will go vie for weight loss back in 2674 02:35:42,960 --> 02:35:47,280 2021. But ongoing supply shortages made it unavailable to 2675 02:35:47,280 --> 02:35:51,780 Canadians, which is why doctors commonly prescribed ozempic as 2676 02:35:51,780 --> 02:35:56,010 an off label drug for obesity management. Now with a drug 2677 02:35:56,010 --> 02:36:00,030 labeled for obesity, many hope it improves access for patients 2678 02:36:00,030 --> 02:36:02,220 who really need it. Hopefully 2679 02:36:02,250 --> 02:36:07,110 the bias around prescribing a medication for weight management 2680 02:36:07,110 --> 02:36:07,980 changes. 2681 02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:11,160 Adam Curry: That's the marketing lady. She's literally saying, 2682 02:36:11,250 --> 02:36:14,130 hey, hopefully the bias against prescribing this 2683 02:36:14,130 --> 02:36:17,460 John C Dvorak: so I'm gonna stop you again. Yeah, what you're 2684 02:36:17,460 --> 02:36:23,100 doing is playing what appears to be a native ad for drugs. In 2685 02:36:23,100 --> 02:36:26,910 Canada, which should be illegal on the CBC 2686 02:36:26,940 --> 02:36:30,060 Unknown: doctors warn against using these types of drugs for 2687 02:36:30,060 --> 02:36:34,290 cosmetic purposes. But experts say the class of medication has 2688 02:36:34,290 --> 02:36:39,000 been around for 20 years to be safe for those taking it as a 2689 02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:43,320 long term obesity medication. Novo Nordisk the maker of the 2690 02:36:43,320 --> 02:36:46,830 drugs plans to ramp up production as well go v makes 2691 02:36:46,830 --> 02:36:50,700 its way to Canada Monday. While there are other anti obesity 2692 02:36:50,700 --> 02:36:55,980 drugs. Some doctors say this one opens the door for cheaper, more 2693 02:36:55,980 --> 02:37:00,480 effective treatments down the line. Alison Bamford, CTV News, 2694 02:37:00,510 --> 02:37:01,140 Regina. 2695 02:37:01,350 --> 02:37:03,690 Adam Curry: I always had to leave the Regina and it just 2696 02:37:03,720 --> 02:37:04,170 just makes 2697 02:37:04,170 --> 02:37:07,050 Unknown: me laugh. Yeah, rhymes with always makes me laugh. So 2698 02:37:07,050 --> 02:37:07,380 yeah, 2699 02:37:07,770 --> 02:37:09,660 Adam Curry: it's good. It'd be oh, this been a it's been 2700 02:37:09,660 --> 02:37:13,050 approved in Canada for three years. But it's coming. It's 2701 02:37:13,050 --> 02:37:16,890 coming. We got a new shipment. It's in it's coming in. It's 2702 02:37:16,890 --> 02:37:18,510 good. We're all good to go. 2703 02:37:19,920 --> 02:37:21,420 John C Dvorak: Well, that was depressing. 2704 02:37:22,260 --> 02:37:25,050 Unknown: I'm gonna show my son moved by Jonah to no agenda. 2705 02:37:25,140 --> 02:37:27,900 Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be 2706 02:37:27,900 --> 02:37:28,260 fun. 2707 02:37:35,700 --> 02:37:38,340 Adam Curry: We want to thank a bunch of people who supported us 2708 02:37:38,640 --> 02:37:42,600 between the Associate Executive producer level and the $50 level 2709 02:37:42,600 --> 02:37:46,320 and John will go through this list and mentioned some of the 2710 02:37:46,320 --> 02:37:49,080 people and maybe some of their short notes if applicable. 2711 02:37:50,040 --> 02:37:52,110 John C Dvorak: Yeah, Parker starts us off from Billings, 2712 02:37:52,110 --> 02:37:59,460 Montana. 133. Ray Aaron, follows up from our Keisha, New Mexico 2713 02:37:59,970 --> 02:38:04,500 at 105 35. And talking about notes I will mention this. This 2714 02:38:04,500 --> 02:38:09,660 is a thank you to Adam Oh, for reading legislation. I 2715 02:38:09,660 --> 02:38:16,830 appreciate you taking one for the team. Challenge he also 2716 02:38:16,830 --> 02:38:19,260 challenges all no agenda producers to join me at 2717 02:38:19,260 --> 02:38:22,860 sustaining donors. There you go. Good man. Good man. Thank you, 2718 02:38:22,890 --> 02:38:30,840 Ray. John Robin, Robin, a Robin $100. Rick Mansfield and Angwin 2719 02:38:31,500 --> 02:38:40,530 $100 Sir Bob fussy Buffett's prophecy served prophecy. Easy 2720 02:38:40,530 --> 02:38:43,320 for you to green note field Park, New York. He wants some 2721 02:38:43,320 --> 02:38:47,010 help. How selling kurma we'll put that at the end for him. And 2722 02:38:47,010 --> 02:38:51,480 make a note. Yep, nope. Hey, Sir Arthur gobbets in Zaandam. 2723 02:38:52,560 --> 02:38:57,030 Holland. 808. Loves boobs loves cats in there. Sure. Matthew 2724 02:38:57,030 --> 02:39:01,740 from Tinley Park, Illinois 808 Birthday list, you got it? Kevin 2725 02:39:01,740 --> 02:39:05,640 McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina 808. These are all boob 2726 02:39:05,640 --> 02:39:12,840 donations. Thank you. Good Steven. Cole, cold glass za Cole 2727 02:39:12,840 --> 02:39:15,360 Glasser, I'm sure it's pronounced and Fernanda, 2728 02:39:15,540 --> 02:39:23,040 Fernanda Fredette for Nan Deena Beach, Florida. 75 bucks. Third 2729 02:39:23,070 --> 02:39:27,900 donation buzzkill has been on a roll. Oh, yeah, there's wheels 2730 02:39:27,900 --> 02:39:35,100 on this chair. Ed Werner in Bo Washington. 6666. Sir mainframe 2731 02:39:35,100 --> 02:39:39,870 in Ventura, California. $64. Dave to Tarion in Livonia, 2732 02:39:39,870 --> 02:39:46,020 Michigan 6150 Dame Jen in Athens, Georgia 58 2733 02:39:46,050 --> 02:39:50,130 Adam Curry: She's named Jen of bead brush and cloth bead 2734 02:39:50,130 --> 02:39:50,460 brushing 2735 02:39:50,460 --> 02:39:52,710 John C Dvorak: cloth Yes, she's got some she's an artist 2736 02:39:52,710 --> 02:39:59,400 artiste. She is Joshua nun and St. John New Brunswick to 2737 02:39:59,400 --> 02:40:06,180 Canada's 5727 He wants the spooky Devorah jingle donate, 2738 02:40:06,360 --> 02:40:10,980 please bear in. Net servic Jenna these are 5727 and the rest of 2739 02:40:10,980 --> 02:40:15,900 these are all the $55 donation with added fees and I'm just 2740 02:40:15,900 --> 02:40:19,410 going to rate read name and the locations on half of them for 2741 02:40:19,410 --> 02:40:24,210 some reason is weird. But this is the Cinco de Mayo donation in 2742 02:40:24,210 --> 02:40:28,950 celebration of Adam's pre show screaming Cinco Demayo. During 2743 02:40:28,950 --> 02:40:34,590 the Valkyrie song, this, Baronet sir Victor's at the top of the 2744 02:40:34,590 --> 02:40:39,750 list prints by AG, Chris Christopher Wiberg and her 2745 02:40:40,170 --> 02:40:47,370 Hermanus Rimantas. Knees roder Matthew Adams Thomas Flint 2746 02:40:47,400 --> 02:40:48,210 Hermanas 2747 02:40:48,240 --> 02:40:48,810 Adam Curry: now you're 2748 02:40:48,810 --> 02:40:50,130 John C Dvorak: older nine. 2749 02:40:51,300 --> 02:40:52,530 Adam Curry: There you go. 2750 02:40:53,160 --> 02:40:56,400 John C Dvorak: Matthew Adams, Thomas Flint and Kevin McLean 2751 02:40:56,430 --> 02:41:00,090 Augustine Silva. He's in Abilene, Texas. That one did 2752 02:41:00,090 --> 02:41:02,850 come through it all. Came Rita Harrington. 2753 02:41:02,880 --> 02:41:09,810 Adam Curry: Augustine needs a dee doo dee doo. I caught it. 2754 02:41:09,840 --> 02:41:13,590 John C Dvorak: I caught it. Indeed. Rita Harrington Bryant 2755 02:41:13,620 --> 02:41:21,810 Keefe that Priscilla O'Leary. Jerome's smelters Geron urine, 2756 02:41:22,350 --> 02:41:31,620 urine, your Runa Snell ders John G. in Deerfield Beach and 2757 02:41:31,620 --> 02:41:34,740 Adam Curry: he needs to he needs to call out Brian Lee as a mega 2758 02:41:34,740 --> 02:41:35,430 douchebag. 2759 02:41:38,610 --> 02:41:42,690 John C Dvorak: Don't do a mega douchebag mega sur Jules reed in 2760 02:41:42,690 --> 02:41:46,110 Salem, Oregon has got a birthday. Ben Maple Valley 2761 02:41:46,110 --> 02:41:53,670 Washington. Brian Furley pity. Oh, okay, that dropped. Okay. 2762 02:41:53,670 --> 02:41:57,600 We're still kind of in this but we're not 5510 But I'm going to 2763 02:41:57,600 --> 02:42:00,330 keep reading these as though they're all donations for the 2764 02:42:00,330 --> 02:42:06,510 $55 promotion. Brian Furley Nicholas Ellen Becker in Walla 2765 02:42:07,260 --> 02:42:11,610 Walla Tao Tausch. Wild Wild Wild Wild Wauwatosa. Wisconsin. I'll 2766 02:42:11,610 --> 02:42:14,880 never get that name just straight. He mentioned the 2767 02:42:15,060 --> 02:42:15,900 boiler your taste and 2768 02:42:16,320 --> 02:42:18,750 Adam Curry: then he says I think he may have sent me that that 2769 02:42:18,750 --> 02:42:21,090 Gallagher resigned took a job with Palantir and he says he 2770 02:42:21,090 --> 02:42:24,780 can't stop thinking about human meat in his ground beef. Hey, 2771 02:42:24,780 --> 02:42:25,470 thanks for that. 2772 02:42:28,410 --> 02:42:31,140 John C Dvorak: Weird thought, Sir Tom Darian, DeForest, 2773 02:42:31,140 --> 02:42:37,080 Wisconsin, sir Jeff. Anonymous. Sarah Gardner Dame Sara. Surfer 2774 02:42:37,110 --> 02:42:44,310 in Shasta Lake. Carl. Shoo, shoo, shoo, looters, 2775 02:42:44,940 --> 02:42:47,850 Adam Curry: lighter. sloucher shout louder. Or 2776 02:42:47,850 --> 02:42:52,410 John C Dvorak: Schlatters viewster Troy funderburk Burke 2777 02:42:52,470 --> 02:42:56,310 funderburk in Missoula, Montana, and that ends our promotion. I 2778 02:42:56,310 --> 02:42:58,050 want to thank all those people for doing this for 2779 02:42:58,050 --> 02:43:02,490 participating. Daphne Lee comes in with 5302 Michael Gatewood 52 2780 02:43:02,490 --> 02:43:07,410 at the Mexican Hobbit in Chula Vista, California. 5272. These 2781 02:43:07,410 --> 02:43:11,400 baby making karma will give you that at the end. Earnest part 10 2782 02:43:11,700 --> 02:43:20,670 in West Chester Ohio 50 to 71 Kirkpatrick in Nanaimo. Nanaimo, 2783 02:43:20,700 --> 02:43:23,610 Nanaimo, Nanaimo and you'll never get what you want as in 2784 02:43:23,610 --> 02:43:27,840 BC, Illinois, they have a nice garden and they're up there at 2785 02:43:27,840 --> 02:43:31,320 that Blue Mountain. Do they know? Kirkpatrick? And that's 2786 02:43:31,320 --> 02:43:34,470 $50 and that's gives me the $50 donors. I'm gonna go through 2787 02:43:34,470 --> 02:43:37,560 them one at a time. Jacob Martinez and El Monte James 2788 02:43:37,560 --> 02:43:43,200 Shara met in Napa NOC Lynn Melanau ski in Stafford, 2789 02:43:43,200 --> 02:43:48,180 Virginia. Michael Lebar, in Williamston, Michigan. Alex 2790 02:43:48,180 --> 02:43:53,640 avala in Kyle, Texas, David Asare in West Hollywood. Steve 2791 02:43:53,670 --> 02:43:58,260 good list here today by the way, Steve marches sunny in 2792 02:43:58,260 --> 02:44:03,510 Glassboro, New Jersey. How to join the newsletter go to no 2793 02:44:03,510 --> 02:44:07,470 agenda show.net There's a link there you can just share it sure 2794 02:44:07,470 --> 02:44:13,050 is. Peter Mark Harrison in Auckland, New Zealand. Sir 2795 02:44:13,050 --> 02:44:16,740 Johnny bananas and Tracy Sullivan in Tinley Park, 2796 02:44:16,740 --> 02:44:20,160 Illinois, Cary Jackson and Watertown, Tennessee Brett 2797 02:44:20,160 --> 02:44:23,970 Farrell, sir Brett. Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina. 2798 02:44:24,000 --> 02:44:28,470 Walker Phillips in San Rafael, California. And last on this 2799 02:44:28,500 --> 02:44:34,860 pretty good list. Eiichi Kanagawa in San Francisco. Want 2800 02:44:34,860 --> 02:44:39,450 to thank these folks for helping us out and getting show 1657 2801 02:44:39,450 --> 02:44:40,020 produced? 2802 02:44:40,050 --> 02:44:42,420 Adam Curry: Yes, thank you all so much. Again, thanks, everyone 2803 02:44:42,420 --> 02:44:46,590 under 50 not mentioned for reasons of anonymity and add the 2804 02:44:46,590 --> 02:44:51,030 sustaining donations are a big help no agenda donations.com Or 2805 02:44:51,030 --> 02:44:51,900 if you're old school 2806 02:44:51,930 --> 02:44:55,710 Unknown: vo red.org/and A and as 2807 02:44:55,710 --> 02:44:59,100 Adam Curry: requested karma for everybody who needs it? You've 2808 02:44:59,100 --> 02:45:00,120 got it. The 2809 02:45:04,589 --> 02:45:07,019 Unknown: dog karma 2810 02:45:15,839 --> 02:45:18,599 Adam Curry: man we say happy birthday to Sir Matthew 2811 02:45:18,599 --> 02:45:22,529 celebrates today along with Sir Jules read the endorse the 2812 02:45:22,529 --> 02:45:25,799 adorable Devorah he didn't mention him at all today hello 2813 02:45:25,799 --> 02:45:30,299 fi adorable happy birthday from grandpa John and Uncle Adam. 2814 02:45:30,599 --> 02:45:34,739 Stephanie turns 30 tomorrow and Tom Beals is Happy Birthday to 2815 02:45:34,739 --> 02:45:39,059 Steph Powell to turns 30 tomorrow so maybe it's no wonder 2816 02:45:39,059 --> 02:45:41,459 if it's the same one or the different ones anyway happy 2817 02:45:41,459 --> 02:45:44,699 birthday from everybody here the best podcast in the universe 2818 02:45:48,059 --> 02:45:56,009 change don't change don't want to be and we've got some 2819 02:45:56,009 --> 02:46:00,209 appearance changes going on here we have sir EA of the tax domain 2820 02:46:00,239 --> 02:46:04,079 upgrades his status to that Baron. We heard him earlier on 2821 02:46:04,079 --> 02:46:06,689 as an executive producer and thank you very much sir as the 2822 02:46:06,689 --> 02:46:10,679 tax domain you are now a Baron of the no agenda show the no 2823 02:46:10,679 --> 02:46:14,579 agenda, roundtable and of course of Gitmo nation and we 2824 02:46:14,579 --> 02:46:17,909 appreciate that very much. We do have a nice note to read. This 2825 02:46:17,909 --> 02:46:21,359 is from Waldo from lower Alabama. He says he reached 2826 02:46:21,359 --> 02:46:25,109 knighthood after a double donation for show 1500 But he 2827 02:46:25,109 --> 02:46:28,919 never got around to claiming his knighthood as it didn't know as 2828 02:46:28,919 --> 02:46:31,919 he didn't know his ring size. Now we do have a handy ring 2829 02:46:31,919 --> 02:46:35,669 sizing guide and no agenda rings.com So I guess he's 2830 02:46:35,669 --> 02:46:38,639 figured it all out and he wants his night name to be sir Waldo 2831 02:46:38,639 --> 02:46:43,079 of the lake of lower Alabama. And he wants he wants our Burg 2832 02:46:43,529 --> 02:46:48,809 UGA doll and West Indies salad at the round table for his meal. 2833 02:46:49,109 --> 02:46:51,959 Are you familiar with the art Bergdahl product? 2834 02:46:52,380 --> 02:46:54,150 John C Dvorak: No, I'd had to look it up well 2835 02:46:54,180 --> 02:46:55,950 Adam Curry: it's over here at the roundtable guys could you 2836 02:46:55,950 --> 02:46:58,290 just slice it up for him that whenever he wants this it tastes 2837 02:46:58,290 --> 02:47:02,940 like like chicken Give me your blade man. Let's bring this guy 2838 02:47:02,940 --> 02:47:07,530 up. Let's get him in here you go there we go. All right. Well, 2839 02:47:07,530 --> 02:47:13,350 no, come on. I got it here for you that are Berg O'Donnell. 2840 02:47:14,910 --> 02:47:19,380 Regardless of your weird choice of roundtable accouter moms I'm 2841 02:47:19,380 --> 02:47:24,000 very proud to pronounce the as Sir Waldo of the lake of lower 2842 02:47:24,000 --> 02:47:28,530 Alabama for you my friend. We have Arenberg and oh darling 2843 02:47:28,530 --> 02:47:31,980 West Indies salad. Also hookers and blow red boys and Chardonnay 2844 02:47:31,980 --> 02:47:35,520 if you want. We have some cookies and vodka. Maybe you're 2845 02:47:35,520 --> 02:47:40,440 interested in some redheads and red rice or perhaps Brazilian 2846 02:47:40,440 --> 02:47:44,250 hotties and to Shasha, cow girls and coffee burners, sparkling 2847 02:47:44,250 --> 02:47:48,360 cider and escorts ginger ale and Jerboas there's always mutton in 2848 02:47:48,360 --> 02:47:51,510 meat. If all else fails, the mutton and meat is there, head 2849 02:47:51,510 --> 02:47:54,060 over to no agenda rings.com You already figured out that you can 2850 02:47:54,060 --> 02:47:57,120 get your ring size there also, we will send it along with some 2851 02:47:57,120 --> 02:47:59,850 wax to seal your important correspondence with this night 2852 02:47:59,850 --> 02:48:03,600 ring which is a signet ring and a certificate of authenticity. 2853 02:48:03,720 --> 02:48:06,900 And welcome to the roundtable. The no agenda Knights and Dames 2854 02:48:07,140 --> 02:48:07,800 know what? 2855 02:48:14,310 --> 02:48:17,160 We got a couple of meetups taking place. It's always 2856 02:48:17,160 --> 02:48:19,710 amazing when I'm talking to people about no agenda and they 2857 02:48:19,710 --> 02:48:21,660 say well, what do these meet up? Say? Have you ever been to one 2858 02:48:21,660 --> 02:48:25,410 now what what happens there? So you have to go to one. It's it's 2859 02:48:25,470 --> 02:48:29,370 an amazing experience. Something that cannot be explained. You 2860 02:48:29,370 --> 02:48:32,430 just have to hang out at one. It's the lowest key gathering 2861 02:48:32,430 --> 02:48:35,850 you'll ever imagine. And it's weird because you walk into a 2862 02:48:35,850 --> 02:48:41,040 space with no agenda people. And you kind of see it. He was like, 2863 02:48:41,100 --> 02:48:44,010 You look around like That's them. And then you'll always 2864 02:48:44,010 --> 02:48:47,640 hear Hey, in the morning in the morning, in the morning we go 2865 02:48:47,640 --> 02:48:50,760 and then you're part of the gang. It gives you connection 2866 02:48:50,790 --> 02:48:54,300 which always results in protection as witnessed by I 2867 02:48:54,300 --> 02:49:00,480 believe the 52nd 51st and 52nd meetup that Leo Bravo was 2868 02:49:00,480 --> 02:49:02,220 organized in Los Angeles 2869 02:49:02,250 --> 02:49:05,520 Unknown: Hi everybody its Leo brava meet up number 51 The 2870 02:49:05,520 --> 02:49:08,220 phone around everybody has greetings to share with us 2871 02:49:08,250 --> 02:49:11,340 a John and Adam ITM This is certainly a chem full pop just 2872 02:49:11,340 --> 02:49:14,760 saying we're in the communist lands and say that's true tea 2873 02:49:14,760 --> 02:49:15,150 guys. This 2874 02:49:15,150 --> 02:49:18,420 is Slick Rick and in the morning. This is Dave is my 2875 02:49:18,420 --> 02:49:21,420 first outing with the group here my first meet up Nice to meet 2876 02:49:21,420 --> 02:49:22,080 everyone in the 2877 02:49:22,080 --> 02:49:24,690 morning. This is Sam Hambone having a great time and 2878 02:49:24,690 --> 02:49:25,710 tolerance. Hi this is 2879 02:49:25,710 --> 02:49:28,470 Ryan first meet up thanks Max wife Greta for slapped me in the 2880 02:49:28,470 --> 02:49:32,310 mouth. Hi, this is Greta here at our second official meetup and 2881 02:49:32,310 --> 02:49:34,590 first la meetup. And we're really grateful to Leo for 2882 02:49:34,590 --> 02:49:37,440 hosting these in the morning in the morning. This is Brian. 2883 02:49:37,470 --> 02:49:40,590 Thanks for all you do Adam and John. Hi. 2884 02:49:41,070 --> 02:49:49,290 In the morning. I'm Tommy and chickening out. Hi, my name is 2885 02:49:49,290 --> 02:49:52,800 Jeff one Douglas Angel. May the Fourth be with you. Hi, this is 2886 02:49:52,800 --> 02:49:57,660 Tommy in the morning. This is my second meetup and I've had an 2887 02:49:57,660 --> 02:50:04,170 amazing time and I really hoped During during the fourth be with 2888 02:50:04,170 --> 02:50:04,440 you 2889 02:50:06,720 --> 02:50:09,390 Adam Curry: I love hearing that so when people say is my second 2890 02:50:09,390 --> 02:50:11,970 or my first that's really an amazing time. That's because 2891 02:50:11,970 --> 02:50:15,420 that's Tuesday love at Memphis had the no agenda bad beer 2892 02:50:15,420 --> 02:50:18,990 protest meet up yesterday. No agenda Knights and Dames. This 2893 02:50:18,990 --> 02:50:24,540 is tech guy tie from the Memphis no agenda, bad beer protest and 2894 02:50:24,540 --> 02:50:29,250 I just wanted to say that we're here celebrating good beer at 2895 02:50:29,250 --> 02:50:36,060 high cotton and I'm joined by Fred C for tudo I put the C and 2896 02:50:36,060 --> 02:50:42,120 cranky crackpot and see i A missus 2897 02:50:42,120 --> 02:50:47,040 Unknown: sir No, please wear beer good plains bed. And this 2898 02:50:47,040 --> 02:50:50,790 is Luke Cumberland rip from Oxford, Mississippi in FEMA 2899 02:50:50,790 --> 02:50:57,900 Region. 420. Giving a cold shout out to lamal spells well bool 2900 02:50:57,900 --> 02:51:03,630 Doozer and trans Zeald calling you out and 2901 02:51:03,630 --> 02:51:08,700 Adam Curry: none of us are douchebags in the morning. We'd 2902 02:51:08,700 --> 02:51:12,000 like to see a meet up with zero douchebaggery congratulations. 2903 02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:15,120 Great meet up report and our final one comes from Arlington 2904 02:51:15,120 --> 02:51:19,020 Virginia. Home of many spooks the Sir William bachelor party 2905 02:51:19,020 --> 02:51:19,590 edition This 2906 02:51:19,590 --> 02:51:22,140 Unknown: is the certainly with Pennsyltucky bachelor party this 2907 02:51:22,140 --> 02:51:25,560 is rounding wishing Sir William and his three nipples a happy 2908 02:51:25,560 --> 02:51:29,280 marriage outstanding. I want this. I'm not sure what it is. 2909 02:51:29,280 --> 02:51:31,710 But I'm so happy to hear that sir. William is going to be an 2910 02:51:31,710 --> 02:51:32,400 honest man. 2911 02:51:32,400 --> 02:51:35,310 Hey, congratulations Sir William Jeff from Springfield know what 2912 02:51:35,310 --> 02:51:38,040 they say about the wedding night bingo Boom shakalaka and from 2913 02:51:38,040 --> 02:51:38,940 Texas ITAM 2914 02:51:39,270 --> 02:51:42,780 CC girl can't wait for the nuptials, Sir 2915 02:51:42,780 --> 02:51:47,220 Chris Aloha from the Aloha state of Arlington. Jason, the new guy 2916 02:51:47,250 --> 02:51:48,150 from Arlington. 2917 02:51:48,180 --> 02:51:53,550 I just wandered in. Hey, this is Dave. Congratulations baling hay 2918 02:51:53,550 --> 02:51:56,520 This is Sir William of West Pennsyltucky don't forget to wax 2919 02:51:56,520 --> 02:51:57,240 your ceiling 2920 02:52:01,530 --> 02:52:04,260 Adam Curry: Yes, nuptials we've married many couples here on the 2921 02:52:04,260 --> 02:52:07,290 no agenda show and the couples that no agenda together stay 2922 02:52:07,290 --> 02:52:11,280 together. It's a fact to look it up. Follow the site. Yes. We've 2923 02:52:11,280 --> 02:52:13,500 got a couple of meetups taking place actually one today the 2924 02:52:13,500 --> 02:52:18,090 Northwest just meet up which is well underway the vault bistro 2925 02:52:18,090 --> 02:52:20,790 and wine bar in Blaine Washington. On Thursday. Our 2926 02:52:20,790 --> 02:52:24,420 next show day that's the ninth the not that Thursday, the other 2927 02:52:24,420 --> 02:52:28,590 Thursday meet up 630 in city park Denver Museum of Nature and 2928 02:52:28,590 --> 02:52:33,990 Science in Denver, Colorado. The third laden amygdala check 730 2929 02:52:33,990 --> 02:52:39,330 Amsterdam time stops Brauhaus Brauhaus Laden in late in the 2930 02:52:39,330 --> 02:52:41,490 Netherlands, that's where all the smart people are. That's 2931 02:52:41,490 --> 02:52:45,330 where all the university people are. And coming up in the next 2932 02:52:45,750 --> 02:52:49,050 next month. We got Edmond Oklahoma and you'd have with 2933 02:52:49,050 --> 02:52:51,180 Indiana Charleston, South Carolina, Charlotte, North 2934 02:52:51,180 --> 02:52:54,180 Carolina, Richmond, Virginia Fort Wayne, Indiana. Big Austin 2935 02:52:54,180 --> 02:52:58,530 Texas barbecue on the 18th at Baron Scott's home. Make sure 2936 02:52:58,530 --> 02:53:01,320 you check that one out Hagen I'm kicking him Connecticut on the 2937 02:53:01,320 --> 02:53:04,350 18th Norwood mess a shoe test guess they're going to be 2938 02:53:04,350 --> 02:53:08,340 shooting in masa shoe test on the 18th San Diego California 2939 02:53:08,490 --> 02:53:11,820 Keene New Hampshire Athens Greece on the 22nd would love to 2940 02:53:11,820 --> 02:53:15,090 receive a report from you guys. Reno, Nevada, Philadelphia, 2941 02:53:15,090 --> 02:53:18,660 Pennsylvania and Tulsa, Oklahoma many more on the calendar no 2942 02:53:18,660 --> 02:53:22,650 agenda meetups.com You You definitely want to try one of 2943 02:53:22,650 --> 02:53:26,070 these out. It's it's free to be a part of it. You can hang out 2944 02:53:26,070 --> 02:53:28,470 you make friends you will probably make friends that you 2945 02:53:28,470 --> 02:53:31,830 will have for a long time if not for life and you might even find 2946 02:53:31,830 --> 02:53:34,560 your mate there no agenda meetups.com If you can't find 2947 02:53:34,560 --> 02:53:37,470 one near you start one yourself. It's easy 2948 02:53:39,180 --> 02:53:50,070 John C Dvorak: to go hang out with you to be triggered. You 2949 02:53:50,070 --> 02:53:55,980 want to be where everybody? Is like 2950 02:53:59,400 --> 02:54:02,280 Adam Curry: I appear to have a cornucopia of ISOs here so you 2951 02:54:02,280 --> 02:54:03,780 want to start with yours? Yeah, she 2952 02:54:03,780 --> 02:54:05,850 John C Dvorak: had dropped the ball last time. Sure. 2953 02:54:07,380 --> 02:54:08,850 Adam Curry: Which one do I start with? 2954 02:54:08,940 --> 02:54:14,010 John C Dvorak: Well, let's see what we got. Hold on. Um, I 2955 02:54:14,040 --> 02:54:22,140 think cherry, cherry. Cherry. Oh my. Oh my goodness. 2956 02:54:23,880 --> 02:54:26,220 Adam Curry: The hard to hear. All right. What else you got? 2957 02:54:26,730 --> 02:54:27,540 John C Dvorak: WTF? 2958 02:54:30,840 --> 02:54:36,810 Adam Curry: Okay. Let me try a couple on Yeah, Google 2959 02:54:36,840 --> 02:54:42,150 John C Dvorak: smooth. Mm hmm. Like that one. Yeah. Okay, 2960 02:54:42,240 --> 02:54:43,800 Unknown: and it's so juicy. Come 2961 02:54:43,800 --> 02:54:44,790 Adam Curry: on. Come on. 2962 02:54:46,290 --> 02:54:49,560 Unknown: Come on. unconstitutionally gag. 2963 02:54:50,400 --> 02:54:51,060 Uh huh. 2964 02:54:51,630 --> 02:54:55,350 Adam Curry: We have. Wow. Uh huh. I think this is the one 2965 02:54:55,440 --> 02:54:59,580 this has got to be the one. It tastes like chicken. Come on. At 2966 02:54:59,580 --> 02:55:02,460 least one One of those was good. Well, actually 2967 02:55:02,460 --> 02:55:05,160 John C Dvorak: two of them were good. The one you liked at the 2968 02:55:05,160 --> 02:55:07,620 beginning I thought actually was good even though I poo pooed it 2969 02:55:07,620 --> 02:55:12,090 but wow was always a winner, but how about Wow, it tastes like 2970 02:55:12,090 --> 02:55:12,600 chicken. 2971 02:55:12,870 --> 02:55:15,750 Adam Curry: Let me try. Let me see. Let me see if we can make 2972 02:55:15,750 --> 02:55:16,410 this happen. 2973 02:55:16,440 --> 02:55:18,150 Unknown: Wow, it tastes like chicken. 2974 02:55:20,010 --> 02:55:21,840 Adam Curry: I don't know if it's necessary. I can do that. 2975 02:55:22,200 --> 02:55:24,000 John C Dvorak: Okay, okay, let's try this other one. What was the 2976 02:55:24,000 --> 02:55:26,310 first one again? smooth, 2977 02:55:26,760 --> 02:55:31,680 smooth, smooth. Go with that. 2978 02:55:31,920 --> 02:55:34,710 Adam Curry: Okay, we'll go with that. I'll go with that. And you 2979 02:55:34,710 --> 02:55:38,250 go with this. So do you? Good 2980 02:55:43,770 --> 02:55:46,380 Good, good. Good news. Yeah, that's right. John's 2981 02:55:46,380 --> 02:55:49,500 John C Dvorak: gonna wrap it to good news is today but why 2982 02:55:52,380 --> 02:55:54,450 Adam Curry: don't you just split it up with a good news jingle in 2983 02:55:54,450 --> 02:55:55,890 between. And we're gonna No, 2984 02:55:56,070 --> 02:56:00,030 John C Dvorak: no, no stop after the first one. Now the reason I 2985 02:56:00,030 --> 02:56:04,260 this one I just wanted it was it was for last week's show. And I 2986 02:56:04,260 --> 02:56:08,880 liked the story so much, but it was botched by the producers in 2987 02:56:08,880 --> 02:56:11,370 the room in the room there when they got into their little 2988 02:56:11,370 --> 02:56:15,090 editing suite and they cut their kid off and they cut the end off 2989 02:56:15,090 --> 02:56:18,990 and just a mess. But I liked it so much as a basic story. So the 2990 02:56:18,990 --> 02:56:22,920 short end is super short. And I want to play this is about a 2991 02:56:22,920 --> 02:56:26,850 little kid who was buying the school lunches for everybody 2992 02:56:26,850 --> 02:56:29,070 else in the school that couldn't afford him because they didn't 2993 02:56:29,070 --> 02:56:32,190 have the money or whatever. It just is a great story. 2994 02:56:32,220 --> 02:56:34,710 Unknown: We fifth grader in Missouri is raising money to pay 2995 02:56:34,710 --> 02:56:36,630 our fellow students lunch debts. 2996 02:56:36,660 --> 02:56:40,620 It's important for kids to eat like I don't think they can make 2997 02:56:40,620 --> 02:56:44,910 it through the day without eating a school. 111 2998 02:56:44,910 --> 02:56:48,630 year old Deacon Kramer has raised close to $1,000. So far, 2999 02:56:48,840 --> 02:56:51,900 the school doesn't deny any children launch but that has led 3000 02:56:51,900 --> 02:56:55,620 to a lot of unpaid bills. Kramer has made it his mission to raise 3001 02:56:55,620 --> 02:56:58,260 as much as he can before he heads off to middle school in 3002 02:56:58,260 --> 02:57:00,330 less than two weeks. Ah, 3003 02:57:00,360 --> 02:57:01,980 Adam Curry: where was this? Where was this? Where did this 3004 02:57:01,980 --> 02:57:03,300 good news take place? 3005 02:57:03,360 --> 02:57:05,430 John C Dvorak: That's a good question in the Midwest 3006 02:57:05,430 --> 02:57:06,000 somewhere, 3007 02:57:06,060 --> 02:57:07,170 Adam Curry: of course not 3008 02:57:07,170 --> 02:57:11,190 John C Dvorak: in the city. That question wasn't in Nottingham, 3009 02:57:11,190 --> 02:57:14,550 here we go. Here's the here's the highlight. Good news day. 3010 02:57:14,550 --> 02:57:20,460 This is a dog for a dog that somehow was in a hole just 3011 02:57:20,460 --> 02:57:23,100 abandoned in the mountains and they found him and brought it 3012 02:57:23,100 --> 02:57:27,450 back to health and shot him a shot of lashing dogs story. 3013 02:57:28,020 --> 02:57:30,960 Unknown: New intent a dog is lucky to be alive after being 3014 02:57:30,960 --> 02:57:34,800 found stranded on Lookout Mountain in Phoenix. The Arizona 3015 02:57:34,800 --> 02:57:38,580 humane society says that back on April 24. They got a call about 3016 02:57:38,580 --> 02:57:42,630 a two year old sharpei mix, who was hiding in a small cutout on 3017 02:57:42,630 --> 02:57:46,200 the side of the mountain. When rescue crews got there. They say 3018 02:57:46,200 --> 02:57:49,890 that the pup was dangerously dehydrated, and may not have 3019 02:57:49,890 --> 02:57:53,400 survived much longer if she wasn't found. Officials say that 3020 02:57:53,400 --> 02:57:56,430 she was scared but was open to receiving help from rescue 3021 02:57:56,430 --> 02:57:57,030 crews. 3022 02:57:57,870 --> 02:58:00,540 Honestly, she was too weak. She just did not want to walk at 3023 02:58:00,540 --> 02:58:05,010 all. So we did kind of funky crazy holder like a baby sort of 3024 02:58:05,010 --> 02:58:08,820 situation. And she actually really just relaxed and seemed 3025 02:58:08,820 --> 02:58:13,170 to enjoy being carried down the mountain. But it was a very 3026 02:58:13,170 --> 02:58:17,700 teeny tiny rocky trail that was pretty slick. And so Tracy and I 3027 02:58:17,700 --> 02:58:21,000 took turns carrying her down the mountain and she was just an 3028 02:58:21,000 --> 02:58:25,200 absolute angel. She knew we were getting her to safety and then 3029 02:58:25,200 --> 02:58:27,660 we got her into our trauma hospital at the Arizona humane 3030 02:58:27,660 --> 02:58:28,290 society. 3031 02:58:29,370 --> 02:58:32,940 She does look so sweet and calm while the pup was treated by 3032 02:58:32,940 --> 02:58:36,090 staff at the Humane Society and we're told that she's doing 3033 02:58:36,090 --> 02:58:39,990 really well now. She earned the name bright eyes since the 3034 02:58:39,990 --> 02:58:43,170 person who found her only happened to see her due to those 3035 02:58:43,200 --> 02:58:47,520 amber eyes that were reflecting behind her hiding spot. 3036 02:58:48,120 --> 02:58:51,990 She's a gorgeous gorgeous one. Yeah, 3037 02:58:51,990 --> 02:58:54,300 John C Dvorak: this is one of those this is an abandoned COVID 3038 02:58:54,300 --> 02:58:56,130 dog the way I see it Yeah, 3039 02:58:56,220 --> 02:58:58,860 Adam Curry: yeah, bright eyes is not a good name for dog though 3040 02:58:58,860 --> 02:59:01,710 because that reminds me of Watership Down where they shoot 3041 02:59:01,710 --> 02:59:06,540 the mom you know you don't know Watership Down you remember that 3042 02:59:06,840 --> 02:59:10,830 Disney movie with it? When they shoot the mom killed? No. 3043 02:59:11,910 --> 02:59:13,650 John C Dvorak: That was like depressing films. 3044 02:59:14,760 --> 02:59:17,460 Adam Curry: It was a kid movie is what traumatized millions of 3045 02:59:17,490 --> 02:59:22,050 objects around the country around the world. That's it for 3046 02:59:22,050 --> 02:59:24,720 no agenda for today. Thank you all very much in the troll room 3047 02:59:24,720 --> 02:59:27,660 you've been a delight to hang out with. Thank you for those 3048 02:59:27,660 --> 02:59:31,500 you downloading the podcasts. If you're listening live at troll 3049 02:59:31,500 --> 02:59:36,390 room.io You can hear the airline pilot guy coming up next haven't 3050 02:59:36,390 --> 02:59:39,120 heard him in a while good to have him on the stream. And of 3051 02:59:39,120 --> 02:59:42,150 course that also counts on your modern podcast apps and of show 3052 02:59:42,150 --> 02:59:45,480 makes his professor J Jones tech checks in twice million miles 3053 02:59:45,480 --> 02:59:48,360 mix on the way as well. And we'll be back on Thursday to 3054 02:59:48,360 --> 02:59:52,110 bring you more of your media deconstruction coming to you 3055 02:59:52,110 --> 02:59:56,580 from FEMA Region number six. The heart of the Texas Hill Country 3056 02:59:56,610 --> 02:59:58,170 in the morning everybody. I'm Adam curry, 3057 02:59:58,380 --> 02:59:59,970 John C Dvorak: here from Northern Silicon Valley. 3058 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:02,280 Adam Curry: I'm Josie tomorrow we return on Thursday. Please 3059 03:00:02,280 --> 03:00:06,450 remember us at no agenda donations.com Until then, adios 3060 03:00:06,450 --> 03:00:09,600 MoPhO is a hui Hui, and such 3061 03:00:15,150 --> 03:00:17,340 Unknown: this is the last stand. 3062 03:00:20,430 --> 03:00:24,000 trespassing, breaking windows shutting down campuses forcing 3063 03:00:24,000 --> 03:00:27,870 the cancellation of classes and graduation. None of this is a 3064 03:00:27,870 --> 03:00:28,830 peaceful protest 3065 03:00:33,240 --> 03:00:41,310 movement which is sweeping this country. Many students this is 3066 03:00:41,310 --> 03:00:45,930 about much more than Gaza. It's about policing to speech 3067 03:00:45,930 --> 03:00:49,560 from President Nixon that he was going to have a Cambodian 3068 03:00:49,560 --> 03:00:51,420 invasion and expand the war. 3069 03:00:51,600 --> 03:00:54,870 Police, like he says has just my office last 3070 03:00:55,980 --> 03:00:59,130 device and LSVT the turns to Barry and she says why are they 3071 03:00:59,130 --> 03:00:59,520 doing? 3072 03:01:03,000 --> 03:01:05,430 blips with according to Last 3073 03:01:05,430 --> 03:01:08,490 night saw a violent raid executed against anti war 3074 03:01:08,490 --> 03:01:10,200 protesters at UCLA 3075 03:01:11,580 --> 03:01:16,050 events of May 4 1970. We know the Vietnam war was going on. 3076 03:01:16,050 --> 03:01:19,980 And it's a very active spring. What is clear is that many were 3077 03:01:19,980 --> 03:01:21,810 not students were older than 3078 03:01:22,260 --> 03:01:23,760 3040, as 3079 03:01:23,760 --> 03:01:26,280 well as angels of violence came 3080 03:01:26,280 --> 03:01:28,980 from pro Israel protesters, and 3081 03:01:29,010 --> 03:01:33,150 then had helicopters buzzing to campus. They brought the war 3082 03:01:33,150 --> 03:01:34,350 home designs, 3083 03:01:34,350 --> 03:01:37,440 protesters also launched tear gas or film spraying chemical 3084 03:01:37,440 --> 03:01:39,300 agents like skunk on protesters. 3085 03:01:43,980 --> 03:01:48,540 So many students, this is about much more than cars. It's about 3086 03:01:48,540 --> 03:01:49,710 policing, too. 3087 03:01:50,100 --> 03:01:53,430 And so at a certain point, the National Guard came in and clear 3088 03:01:53,430 --> 03:01:57,600 them out forcibly with bayonet, and a number of the students 3089 03:01:57,810 --> 03:01:59,580 were actually stabbed. 3090 03:01:59,790 --> 03:02:03,360 trespass, breaking windows shutting down campuses forcing 3091 03:02:03,360 --> 03:02:07,230 the cancellation of classes in graduation. None of this is a 3092 03:02:07,230 --> 03:02:08,730 peaceful protest. And 3093 03:02:08,730 --> 03:02:13,950 they all go up the hill and they all turn in unison and they all 3094 03:02:14,340 --> 03:02:21,450 shooting in it. And they shoot at the student better like 300 3095 03:02:21,450 --> 03:02:22,230 feet away. 3096 03:02:41,790 --> 03:02:49,110 Bars are blazey so green bars are glazy so great I don't 3097 03:02:49,110 --> 03:02:57,240 understand that small crazy so far reaching so far 3098 03:03:03,630 --> 03:03:09,450 NASA satellites can see that NASA satellites can see the NASA 3099 03:03:09,450 --> 03:03:10,770 satellites to see that 3100 03:03:11,940 --> 03:03:13,080 NASA satellites 3101 03:03:19,980 --> 03:03:21,720 million miles away in space 3102 03:03:31,170 --> 03:03:40,410 John C Dvorak: or a million miles away Louie Bellson parts 3103 03:03:40,800 --> 03:03:41,820 actually fire 3104 03:03:44,460 --> 03:03:46,530 Adam Curry: directed energy weapons are a thing. 3105 03:03:49,140 --> 03:03:50,130 John C Dvorak: And it was a new thing 3106 03:03:54,360 --> 03:03:57,540 Unknown: falls out. And he's really military leadership for 3107 03:03:57,540 --> 03:03:59,160 clearly standing down. 3108 03:03:59,340 --> 03:04:02,100 But the point is, and so these governments all need a 3109 03:04:02,100 --> 03:04:04,950 boogeyman. I'm your boogey man somebody can have a bunch of the 3110 03:04:04,950 --> 03:04:09,570 troops stand down. I mean, this is 911 all over again on your 3111 03:04:10,140 --> 03:04:14,760 break free, overrun. Go in. There's real support from us. 3112 03:04:15,030 --> 03:04:17,580 There's a lot of back channel wink wink going on here. 3113 03:04:18,330 --> 03:04:23,220 suitcases full of cash. It is true. I'm your Boogeyman. And so 3114 03:04:23,220 --> 03:04:25,410 these governments all need a boogeyman. No, I 3115 03:04:25,410 --> 03:04:28,680 don't support him. You're 100% right. We don't support them. 3116 03:04:28,680 --> 03:04:31,890 Honestly. I'm your boogey man. I looked it up Israeli 3117 03:04:31,890 --> 03:04:34,230 intelligence created from AWS. 3118 03:04:34,590 --> 03:04:36,180 General Michael Grady calls out 3119 03:04:37,950 --> 03:04:39,810 there's no way 3120 03:04:40,890 --> 03:04:43,380 Israel support so much. It is true. 3121 03:04:43,650 --> 03:04:44,910 Adam Curry: I looked it up. No, I 3122 03:04:44,910 --> 03:04:45,750 Unknown: don't support a mask. 3123 03:04:47,160 --> 03:04:51,900 I mean, this is 911 all over again. But the point is I'm your 3124 03:04:53,190 --> 03:04:56,280 suitcases full of cash. There's a lot of back channel wink wink 3125 03:04:56,280 --> 03:04:59,640 going on here. I looked it up. And so these government's all 3126 03:04:59,640 --> 03:05:01,830 need a bus Email right free over 3127 03:05:11,700 --> 03:05:18,150 borak.org/in A smooth