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John C Dvorak: outstanding
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Adam Curry: John C. Dvorak
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winning combination media
assassination episode 1646.

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Unknown: This is no agenda,
counting

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Adam Curry: chemtrails and
broadcasting live from the heart

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of the country here in FEMA
Region number six in the

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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry and from

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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where we want to remind

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you that weather is not climate.
Unless it is I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Adam Curry: Buzzkill. That's
right. Beautiful day here in

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Hill Country. Fredericksburg,
Texas is beautiful. It was

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beautiful. We had a couple of
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John C Dvorak: here too. It's
supposed to be raining. Oh,

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Adam Curry: sorry to hear that.
What are the algos telling you

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to be worried about today
everybody? Please check yourself

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check your amygdala make sure
you're worried about all the

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right things. Hey, before we
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you know Tina is on her way to
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actually left to yesterday, so I
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produced by Dana Brunetti. No
agenda executive producer

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GranTurismo though

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John C Dvorak: Yeah. Wow.

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Adam Curry: I have seen a lot of
race movies. I would say this is

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the best one. It should I agree.
It should receive an Oscar for

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something. Well, too late. No,
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John C Dvorak: I use it to say I
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Adam Curry: everyone had warned
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little slow. It granted a little
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John C Dvorak: does start a
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Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, it was
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of Jan's mom. Geri Halliwell,
Gary Halliwell. Cherry cheer

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Gary Halliwell. Spice Girl.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah,

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Adam Curry: I thought that was
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casting to put her in. Notice
that know that? Because that

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means that you even you and I
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To put a Spice Girl in your
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get in there. And
congratulations to Ashlynn speed

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number 32. No a generation
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we helped her career? Have we
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goes to Formula four. Yes, this
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for the win. Let's see. Well,
they've knocked the bridge down.

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John C Dvorak: This I love
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and over. Man Well damn this
thing. There's

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Adam Curry: there's a lot of
speculation, a lot of a lot of

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information a lot of things we
do know we don't know. Of

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John C Dvorak: Well we know now
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is, they've got to change the
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Francis got key is a bad guy.

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Unknown: He's a racist to
Francis Scott Key Bridge. Now a

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barrier for a key shipping lane,
the Port of Baltimore is

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expected to be closed
indefinitely. Please investigate

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the collision that caused it to
collapse and work to clear the

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wreckage is critically important
to our economy. Last year, the

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port processed over 52 million
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$80 billion each day it shut
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and while Baltimore handles just
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Eastern Gulf Coast's it's the
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imports and exports. Nearly
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last year. The port is also
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shipping some 20 million tons of
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how long at this point, you
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the lives of longshoremen and
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40 ships remain stranded in
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Ford, GM and Volkswagen say they
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to avoid major disruptions, the
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massive impact on the regional
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economy. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: The fallout you
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John C Dvorak: That was a better
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Adam Curry: That was from Papa
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John C Dvorak: and a bunch of
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Adam Curry: Let me see The NPR
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Unknown: divers continue their
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workers following the collapse
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Investigators are looking at
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out of control container ships
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structure early Tuesday morning,
causing the massive structure to

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crash into the water and under
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workers are recovered day other
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the time are missing and
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administration is promising an
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John C Dvorak: We got on. I
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have a kind of an interesting
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Unknown: Remember station w wipr
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workers who said he was
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the next morning, he said the
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Honduras, El Salvador and
Mexico. Tragedy. Oh, yeah, no,

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John C Dvorak: a bunch of
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to deal with that's why they
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Adam Curry: In fact, the
president of Mexico has already

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complained. Let me see. Lopez
Obrador said that insensitive

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irresponsible politicians did
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of migrants in the US. They
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truck. Yeah, that's that's your
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good union jobs. That's right.
Dignity. Yeah, they illegals

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working on of course, fixing the
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ground. By the

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John C Dvorak: way, try to stop
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tires leaking. Oh, no. And so I
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pothole. You had pothole damage
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Adam Curry: you need some
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some let's go to the Home Depot
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and have them fill up your
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From one of our producers, he
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by SSA Marine, which controls
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marine port. This is why we have
the best podcast in the

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universe, we have the best
producers in the universe.

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Everybody's an expert at
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been sitting around listening to
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great, I have nothing much to
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Whoa. And that's when you email
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do it. It was confirmed there
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vessel the vessel was leaving
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speed six knots after they lost
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which allowed emergency traffic
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mean all those videos, it
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lot of time so that losing
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the May Day and for them to
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guaranteed it was late. But so I
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much worse. They followed all
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includes emergency dropping of
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from internal communications. So
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course, the smoke scene is from
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takes several minutes to kick
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but it was too short of a
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failures still unknown. Although
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seems they lost control of the
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propeller was still going. A
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the vessel this size and this
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that people died but you
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Thank you very much to our boots
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official word there at the port.
Now, it was really odd. My

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neighbor out here, Laura Logan,
she was on the stick right away

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about this right away, calling
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was all over a banyan show and
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John C Dvorak: me just let me
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Newsmax and the other one is
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Adam Curry: two different
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in high regard. I know who she's
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John C Dvorak: your beer
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Adam Curry: She started coming
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interesting. She definitely has
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she has the same story is very
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concise clips. But the first one
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although the none of her
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she's staking her reputation on
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Unknown: US intelligence
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have identified this as a cyber
attack. And the way that this is

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done is using a technique which
is called spoofing. So there's a

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lot of conversation that you
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was going that calls were made
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about, exactly, you know, all
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happened to you. But what they
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you will not have a conversation
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very simple technique, and it's
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intelligence community. And
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identify what is the GPS signal,
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base that the ship is using to
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and to guide that ship on its
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powerful signal, so you
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they're using. And what this
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on that ship piloting. And when
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complex maneuver like that has
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pilot. So he's watching his GPS
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that he is on course, that
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looking at what he sees. And it
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on the GPS. And what the harbor
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looking at is as they're getting
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realizing Wait a minute, we're
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seeing with our own eyes doesn't
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GPS is telling us we're still on
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panic, right. And as they
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bad situation, they're now
trying no likelihood, right?

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it, but at a certain point,
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the ship, the weight of the
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the sharpness of the turn,
there's nothing that you can do

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Adam Curry: So this is Chi
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spoofing. And it was dark of
night, and it was timed at

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night. So that the you know,
just have the, there's not a

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whole bunch of eyes would be on
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happening. And here's a clip
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yesterday. Here's a clip from
this morning about our sources.

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Unknown: I'm talking to people
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are in active duty, some who are
retired, and everyone literally

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from critical infrastructure in
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to the intelligence agencies,
they know there's no other it's

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there. This is a cyber attack on
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corridor for the United States.
This is you know, for those

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people think this is just a
river. This is in Baltimore,

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what is this matter? You don't
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talking about? This the I 94
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is literally what connects the
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about hazardous materials,
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planned strategic attack on one
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that's busier. And what you have
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Adam Curry: What do you think
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really that important? Is it
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John C Dvorak: Apparently, it
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Adam Curry: I always have to
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also I should not tell him not
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engines. Don't want to get
justice. Kidding. Kidding. I

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mean, she's staking her
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John C Dvorak: It's an
interesting thesis that you'd

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have to try to figure out how it
could be done to overwhelm and

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it would have been reported by
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was it couldn't be targeted
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how they could do that. But it's
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Adam Curry: no. I mean, it's a
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easy. That's easy. That's super
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John C Dvorak: Is it easy to to
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Adam Curry: you just need a
transmitter that is just closer

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to the receiver then blocks out
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John C Dvorak: That I think is
the I'm not I really I like to

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hear from some experts that we
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Adam Curry: By the way. 1600
airplanes in the last four days

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have had GPS issues over the
Baltic Sea. I mean, this we know

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this happens. It's the easiest
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John C Dvorak: also a solar
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this issue. Oh, I hadn't heard
that one was there and yeah,

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they came out and said well, the
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Adam Curry: But spoofing is very
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mean, you just have to have a
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the skewed data, but it just
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and I mean that there's a lot of
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this will take four to five
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probably you don't have to build
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true. But is it really? Is it
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know that you won't be able to
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heard I heard the CEO on CNBC
Oh, well, we'll get your your

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your Evie Mercedes Benz to you
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know that. That's the thing that
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much more interesting to me than
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John C Dvorak: of a cord was a
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Adam Curry: But she's talking
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John C Dvorak: though. The
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to build but she says the one
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thrown up. That was a piece of
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collapse like that. Well, the
whole thing looks like a

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Adam Curry: Well, if you I mean,
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John C Dvorak: we're just single
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extreme. That was poorly
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Adam Curry: Dvorak is terrible
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John C Dvorak: did you see the
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be a chicken? You didn't know a
bad AK. Did

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Adam Curry: you see the Twin
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John C Dvorak: don't think that
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this seemed legit. They just
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Adam Curry: How about building
seven that you're you're

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complaining about a bridge, that
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talking about that, to me is the
most interesting part. Is it

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really that bad? And man, it's
like when you get a whole bunch

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of people calling you from
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know, is that? I mean, that
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oh, this is this is it, man.
This is it. And by the way, now

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that I have you on the phone,
JFK Jr. is still alive.

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John C Dvorak: Which is a big
Macedon, which is,

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Adam Curry: which is a big one
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lot of people talking about
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John C Dvorak: find that
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Adam Curry: it's it's very
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John C Dvorak: You're living in
an area that is loaded with

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crackpots. That feel

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Adam Curry: right at home? Yeah,
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It's a beautiful, beautiful
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why we really just don't have
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if you hit them. It's so it's
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even if they just hit the trust
of the bridge, it would have

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taken that thing out. But it
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which you don't really expect to
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it. More important to me is is
it really going to cripple our

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internal infrastructure? That's
the I thought you would know

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more about the I 95 Corridor
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John C Dvorak: about the I 95
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concerned as back east I'm, I'm
a West Coast guy gonna carry

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Adam Curry: that's the spirit
John.

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John C Dvorak: We looked at
China for our way of cleaning.

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Adam Curry: Well, all right.
Since we're talking about China,

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this is hasn't really hit the
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the British papers today stored

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in what the Daily Mail calls and
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UK publicly identified China as
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cyber attack campaign that
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politicians, journalists,
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and New Zealand now says that
its parliamentary system was

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also targeted in 2021. America,
the US has announced that it

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announced criminal charges and
sanctions against seven hackers

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who they say live in China.
Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister,

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British Prime Minister is now
under pressure to do more, to

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fight and to sanction those who
carried out these attacks. acts,

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particularly as anger is growing
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slapped sanctions on to hackers.
They belong to a group called

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advanced persistent threat or a
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the scale of these attacks,

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Adam Curry: what kind of what
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Fear sitting down with a bunch
of hackers like oh, we got up a

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cool name like a non Oh, yeah.
advanced persistent threat.

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the scale of these attacks. For
in one instance, an attack on

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the UK Electoral Commission gave
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and addresses of 40 million
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MP, saying Britain turned up to
a gunfight with a wooden spoon

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is in a way in a bid to describe
the response of Britain to

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punishing these hackers as the
Times reports it, China is set

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to be declared a threat to
national security. So

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Adam Curry: bemrose in the troll
room says that a PT is what the

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white hats give to groups who
they don't have the name of and

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then they'll often put a number
so a PT 35, advanced print, so

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it's not what they call
themselves. It's what we do with

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our good guys call them. And it
sounds to me like an attack on

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five eyes. Now the through a New
Zealand, the UK, the US, all of

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us, it's your pivot to
Indochina. There you go. It's so

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much confusing. collected

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John C Dvorak: a names of 40
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why it's called

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Adam Curry: Facebook, what are
you talking about? No,

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John C Dvorak: many Facebook?

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Adam Curry: Many, many Facebook.
So then I hear about that

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Beijing is filing a lawsuit with
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against the United States. Yes,
this is a good story, the same

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issue that the European Union
had on Well, I don't think the

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European Union is filed any
suit. They're complaining about

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the IRA, the infrastructure
Reduction Act, which gives

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incentives to us electric
vehicle makers, and they're

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saying it's racist. It's, it's
discriminatory. And now that's

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one thing, first of all, Boo
China. That's one thing, but

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then Janet Yellen, comes on
Andrea Mitchell show and accuses

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Times report, but other
reporting that we've done on

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Elon Musk and his relationship
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competing now against their
cheaper EVs. But he's really

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dependent on that Chinese
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his satellites are satellites we

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rely on for so much of our
communication isn't a national

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security problem. For women and
his rockets, of course, is it a

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national security problem for
our government to have so much

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reliance on this one
entrepreneur? Well, look, we

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take national security very
seriously and want to protect

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our national security. Our
desire is not to shut down

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economic relations with China,
we want to diversify our supply

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chains. But many American firms
operate in China and gained from

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the ability to sell to China's
large market. China obviously

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sells a lot in the United
States. And the competition

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among our firms is by and large,
a healthy thing. We want to

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stabilize that relationship and
not shut it down. But also we

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need to make sure that the
playing field is level and we

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are concerned about Chinese
subsidies and the impact on our

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firms.

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Adam Curry: So she's saying the
Chinese are subsidizing their

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companies. Well, now now now
brakeman clump wishes where we

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say in the old country, that
brace that breaks my clog.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, terrible
saying,

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Adam Curry: Well, if you had
wooden shoes, then you'd be

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you'd understand it. This is a
lot. So are we going down into

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John C Dvorak: something going
on right now? There is a mu BYD

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which is the company that was
evey cars, supposedly going to

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build a mega factory in Mexico
bloodbath, the bloodbath car,

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bloodbath company, BYD bloody
your dream, you're so the

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bloodbath company, BYD is
rolling out this summer, a

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massive campaign to introduce
the BYD electric vehicle to the

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United States, huh Interesting
you can go to their website and

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you can see the movie about and
they're gonna be they're gonna

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be sponsoring the big world cup
or there's some soccer you have

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some soccer

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Adam Curry: well that's not
that's not that's not how you

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get the Americans you know, I

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John C Dvorak: know but they
don't really know they figured

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it out Americans are very slowly
turning to this yeah they're

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Adam Curry: sponsoring UEFA
which is the Euro chaotic that

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is very odd. Why would they but

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John C Dvorak: anyway so we have
the this coming and supposed to

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roll out to summer and we're
going to start seeing we don't

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see it what Chinese cars what's
the big threat? What Chinese car

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is on the road? Name one.

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Adam Curry: I can't that's what
I thought they're all in Russia.

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John C Dvorak: Right? Why does
even bother selling does they

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got Russia to market? Goodbye
Mercedes. Maybe this whole thing

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is about you setting yourself
they bring down this bridge.

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Mercedes can't bring cars here.
They can't sell them to Russia.

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They're screwed. Maybe this is
targeting them. Oh, whatever the

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case

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Adam Curry: like that. This?
Okay, but they were I thought

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they were gonna put them in
Mexico.

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John C Dvorak: But the Mercedes?
No, the BYD. Oh no, they're

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gonna build them in Mexico so
they can get cheaper labor and

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roll them into the country and
save a few bucks a day. They're

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not building him here because no
one's gonna let him do that. But

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they are going to be rolled out
this summer. But tonight, I

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don't think it'd be the Mexican
ones because I don't think that

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factories done or even started
for all I know. Anyway, the this

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is all suspicious. And it's like
a, you know, free trade is

447
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supposed to be free trade and we
subsidize our people. They

448
00:26:36,150 --> 00:26:39,330
subsidize their people everybody
subsidize, we're supposed to.

449
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Adam Curry: The thing is, it's
such a joke. All of this to me

450
00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:47,220
is a joke. We are in perpetual
relationship with China.

451
00:26:47,580 --> 00:26:49,650
John C Dvorak: They buy it
again. And there's nothing we

452
00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:51,090
can do about it. Well, no,

453
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Adam Curry: I mean, we they buy
our debt and then they have

454
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dollars and what are you gonna
do with the dollars? I'll go buy

455
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some land? Buy some real estate
buy San Francisco. Doesn't China

456
00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:03,030
own a lot of real estate in San
Francisco?

457
00:27:03,180 --> 00:27:05,820
John C Dvorak: Not that I know
of. I thought they did. Well,

458
00:27:05,820 --> 00:27:07,350
that would be a good ploy.

459
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Adam Curry: Wouldn't surprise
me. That's what I always heard

460
00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:11,760
China. I'd

461
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,560
John C Dvorak: ever heard this
on our ship. I mean, Chinese is

462
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,480
a big Chinatown in San
Francisco. There's a lot of

463
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Chinese in San Francisco and

464
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,390
Adam Curry: Roush.

465
00:27:22,410 --> 00:27:24,300
John C Dvorak: Rouse them get
rid of them. They've tried to do

466
00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:25,860
that before how and why

467
00:27:25,860 --> 00:27:29,310
Adam Curry: buyers from China
are snatching up Bay Area homes.

468
00:27:30,390 --> 00:27:32,070
John C Dvorak: The Arizona San
Francisco Oh,

469
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:34,800
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Okay,
we're gonna be technical about

470
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,300
it. This is from 2014

471
00:27:37,650 --> 00:27:39,600
John C Dvorak: be technical
about it now. Okay. Well,

472
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,630
Adam Curry: the Bay Area,
California, you know, the part

473
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:43,320
you care about? Well,

474
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John C Dvorak: if I was in
China, I would be by I know in

475
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my head where I live, which is
in Albany Hill, I called China

476
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hill.

477
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Adam Curry: But isn't the whole
point that we're just in this,

478
00:27:54,270 --> 00:27:58,170
we are the customer, we buy
their stuff? They buy our debt,

479
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,270
it's the circle, it goes all it?
I mean, actually, Germany had

480
00:28:03,270 --> 00:28:09,570
this with Russia, which is gone
now. Germany would build

481
00:28:09,570 --> 00:28:14,970
Mercedes, you know, sell them to
Russia. And Russia supplied all

482
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kinds of stuff back to them,
including, you know, Deutsche

483
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,500
Marks until we throw them off of
Swift.

484
00:28:24,750 --> 00:28:26,160
John C Dvorak: With a bunch of
idiots.

485
00:28:26,220 --> 00:28:31,650
Adam Curry: Oh, man, did you? I
think I had was it here? Here it

486
00:28:31,650 --> 00:28:38,100
is. Reuters reports now, Swift
planning launch of new central

487
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:44,820
bank digital currency platform
in 12 months. You know, you

488
00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:45,900
gotta wonder,

489
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,260
John C Dvorak: you know which
side of the argument you're on?

490
00:28:49,740 --> 00:28:50,340
Yeah,

491
00:28:50,370 --> 00:28:52,980
Adam Curry: of course, I'm, I'm
totally on the side of that.

492
00:28:52,980 --> 00:28:55,020
They're going to do this. It's
inevitable.

493
00:28:56,220 --> 00:28:58,890
John C Dvorak: So I didn't say I
mean, it may do it. It doesn't

494
00:28:58,890 --> 00:29:02,940
mean it's gonna be a success.
Oh, no, we're gonna get rid of

495
00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:06,330
cash. I'm in your life right
before your dad. Yes.

496
00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:10,290
Adam Curry: Before you're dead
even Yes. Yes. It's already gone

497
00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:14,880
practically. For all practical
purposes. Yes. Oh, we're

498
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,910
definitely going to get rid of
cash. Definitely. Well,

499
00:29:17,910 --> 00:29:20,520
John C Dvorak: that's a huge
mistake. Why?

500
00:29:21,090 --> 00:29:24,840
Adam Curry: But I mean, the
whole point of a digital central

501
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,860
bank digital currency is to
easily be able to inflate and

502
00:29:28,860 --> 00:29:32,730
deflate and manage you know, the
money. The money money. Yeah,

503
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,960
take Yes. Exactly. To take your
money. That's and they know what

504
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:42,330
they just got one step closer.
And Texas slim has been has been

505
00:29:42,330 --> 00:29:45,510
warning about this. We've been
talking about it for quite a

506
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:48,990
while and they finally did it in
the omnibus bill. Well, you're

507
00:29:48,990 --> 00:29:53,070
gonna hear Massie and some rando
rancher, well,

508
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,980
Unknown: you know, the left
wants to ban cattle and before

509
00:29:55,980 --> 00:29:59,160
you can ban anything you need a
registry you need to know where

510
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,280
it's at and who into it. And
that's why they want to tag

511
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,700
cattle. We've seen it happen in
Europe. Now on the right, you've

512
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:08,700
got some cronies who stand to
make some money from these ear

513
00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:13,830
tags. They're the ones who get
the $15 million earmark doesn't

514
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:17,970
go to USDA, it's going to quote
stakeholders. That is a code

515
00:30:17,970 --> 00:30:22,290
word for private entities are
getting a handout. And what

516
00:30:22,290 --> 00:30:24,960
they'll do, they'll verticalized
the industry with this the big

517
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,080
corporations, you know, you just
talked about China, there for

518
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,140
corporations control meat
processing United States, once

519
00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:34,470
owned by China, one's own
Brazil, by Brazil, American

520
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:38,100
ranchers will be working for
those organizations if this

521
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,500
tracking goes through, because
they'll verticalized the

522
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industry

523
00:30:41,310 --> 00:30:43,650
said, What's your response to
this tracking of cattle? Are

524
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you concerned as well?

525
00:30:44,730 --> 00:30:48,690
Oh, yes, I am. It is the key
that opens the door

526
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to end to the end of independent
producers across the country.

527
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,060
And it is a private property
rights issue that we really have

528
00:30:57,060 --> 00:31:01,590
to consider here. When we start
talking about RFID ID and data

529
00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:05,400
monitoring monitoring of farmers
and ranchers and their cattle

530
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,180
herd size, we open up to what
the door for what is going on in

531
00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:13,230
the European Union. And under
the rules of sustainability,

532
00:31:13,230 --> 00:31:18,840
sustainable development, we know
that the RFID has led to a land

533
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,530
seizure in the name of climate
change. So once we open that

534
00:31:22,530 --> 00:31:26,160
door, there's no going back and
they can come and they can

535
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:30,000
monitor, measure, report and
verify everything that's going

536
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,890
on your on your farmer ranch and
then maybe down the road in the

537
00:31:34,890 --> 00:31:39,150
name of climate change they can
come and dictate to you the

538
00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:42,510
rules of their production which
is subjective on from a third

539
00:31:42,510 --> 00:31:45,990
party verification and it is
extremely dangerous to private

540
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:49,350
property rights. This is a
Liberty taker not a Liberty

541
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:50,310
maker and

542
00:31:50,340 --> 00:31:53,820
Adam Curry: this is all part of
what Larry Fink from Blackrock

543
00:31:53,820 --> 00:32:01,260
calls you know I was he calls it
a commodity now it's like

544
00:32:01,530 --> 00:32:06,000
creating an wish I remember what
Larry Fink of Blackrock said

545
00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:10,050
tokenizing every asset that's
what is tokenizing so they want

546
00:32:10,050 --> 00:32:17,880
to tokenize the herd and then
you can of course you can do all

547
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,940
kinds of financial stuff once
it's tokenized and you can track

548
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:24,450
it and you put your key put your
cow on the blockchain on

549
00:32:24,450 --> 00:32:28,920
whatever CB DC blockchain there
is and then you have total

550
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:35,040
control total control this is
this is happening this is really

551
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,010
happening the except you know
these guys they should have

552
00:32:38,010 --> 00:32:41,310
Texas slim on don't get this
Rando guy on Slim's much better

553
00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:46,500
better look better had
everything much better. So yeah,

554
00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:50,640
the everything's going to be
digital and although we keep

555
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,470
laughing about climate change
they're all so crazy that it's

556
00:32:55,470 --> 00:33:00,240
creeping up on us bit by bit and
then before you know it sorry,

557
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,200
no be for you because you drove
too much you don't have an Eevee

558
00:33:05,910 --> 00:33:08,550
John C Dvorak: so the thing that
didn't get much news coverage by

559
00:33:08,550 --> 00:33:13,560
the mainstream but was on some
of the was on YouTube and

560
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,670
elsewhere was the big hailstorm
in Texas that took out a solar

561
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,340
array that's miles and miles of
these panels all busted up by

562
00:33:23,340 --> 00:33:28,530
the by the by the incoming mail.
Gee, who would have ever thought

563
00:33:28,530 --> 00:33:31,440
that was that even covered in
the local news where you are?

564
00:33:31,470 --> 00:33:34,080
Yes. Yeah, it wasn't covered
here

565
00:33:34,110 --> 00:33:36,300
Adam Curry: a little while your
California you don't care about

566
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:38,280
the rest of the nation. Dead
Well,

567
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,160
John C Dvorak: that's there's
truth to that. Okay. Here's your

568
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:44,220
new solar array. Here's the
solar energy clip I

569
00:33:44,220 --> 00:33:47,460
Adam Curry: Have you have you
have a clip about it. Oh, not

570
00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:49,350
John C Dvorak: about that
because I can't I never saw it

571
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:50,760
except on YouTube. By

572
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,190
Adam Curry: the way when when it
hails and we've had a couple

573
00:33:53,550 --> 00:33:57,330
good hail storms. Two things
happen one you keep getting

574
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,780
emails Hey, it's roof repair guy
here. Want me to check out your

575
00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:04,050
roof. And the other thing is you
always hear someone some poor

576
00:34:04,050 --> 00:34:08,700
sap like oh man. My kid parked
the car on the street.

577
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:12,840
John C Dvorak: Didn't think of
course he had all dinged up

578
00:34:13,020 --> 00:34:16,500
Adam Curry: windshields broken,
windshields broken and love. You

579
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:16,650
can

580
00:34:16,650 --> 00:34:18,360
John C Dvorak: break a
windshield with a hail stone and

581
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,060
you can break a solar panel with
one Treasury

582
00:34:21,060 --> 00:34:23,820
Unknown: Secretary Janet Yellen
toward a factory in Georgia

583
00:34:23,820 --> 00:34:27,150
today that will soon start
making solar cells for the first

584
00:34:27,150 --> 00:34:30,210
time in seven years. And Bureau
Scott Horsley reports Yellen

585
00:34:30,210 --> 00:34:32,640
says federal tax credits helped
pave the way for the plants

586
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,840
reopening Neva

587
00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:36,479
factory in Norcross, Georgia. It
was one of the first plants in

588
00:34:36,479 --> 00:34:39,419
the country to manufacture solar
cells when it opened back in

589
00:34:39,419 --> 00:34:43,439
2007. It struggled to compete
though with cheaper solar

590
00:34:43,439 --> 00:34:46,889
imports, and the factory was
shuttered 10 years later. Now

591
00:34:46,889 --> 00:34:49,919
it's and he was trying again.
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen

592
00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:53,309
credits clean energy tax breaks
and the inflation reduction Oh.

593
00:34:54,689 --> 00:34:56,219
Domestic manufacturer X

594
00:34:56,220 --> 00:35:01,590
ray thanks to the IRA investing
in clean energy is a good value

595
00:35:01,590 --> 00:35:06,120
proposition. And for the future
yellow notes

596
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,310
Adam Curry: that solar energy
accounts for more than half the

597
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:12,030
new power generating capacity
added in the US last year. So

598
00:35:12,030 --> 00:35:14,940
this is just proof this is proof
that one wasn't a trillion

599
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:19,380
dollars I think the inflation
Reduction Act was I think a

600
00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:22,350
trillion plus yeah a trillion
plus dollars proof that it just

601
00:35:22,350 --> 00:35:26,220
went to private companies may go
I'm obey Janet, because you sent

602
00:35:26,220 --> 00:35:29,730
it to us we'll make some solar
panels. Yeah, it'd be great.

603
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,500
John C Dvorak: You wish to in
other words, they couldn't be

604
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:35,070
profitable making them
competing. Exactly. We think a

605
00:35:35,070 --> 00:35:37,980
level playing field with the
Chinese came in and just blew

606
00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:39,420
everybody away. China's

607
00:35:39,420 --> 00:35:42,240
Adam Curry: right them. They
shouldn't be suing us. We're no

608
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:46,170
good, though. They're no good
either. Hey, oh, it's

609
00:35:46,170 --> 00:35:47,610
John C Dvorak: just the system's
no good.

610
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,660
Adam Curry: Since we're on
climate change. I have a big

611
00:35:51,660 --> 00:35:56,190
mystery answered. Something that
we've been talking about on this

612
00:35:56,190 --> 00:36:05,040
podcast for well, probably since
its existence. And if it came

613
00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:08,250
out of the blue all of a sudden
from the high wire, you know,

614
00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:09,570
the high wire Dell big tree.

615
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:13,440
John C Dvorak: I'm familiar with
it. I've never listened to it.

616
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,650
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, during
COVID He had all kinds of great

617
00:36:16,650 --> 00:36:19,770
information. Oh, well, good for
you. I think Dell used to

618
00:36:19,770 --> 00:36:24,060
produce medical shows on M five
M like the doctors I believe he

619
00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:25,230
produced that one. No

620
00:36:25,230 --> 00:36:27,090
John C Dvorak: Good for him.
Yeah. So he Yeah, we need people

621
00:36:27,090 --> 00:36:30,420
like this. I guess he's Yes,
exactly. Because he can't get a

622
00:36:30,420 --> 00:36:31,800
job anywhere else.

623
00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:37,530
Adam Curry: So we had on climate
engineering expert, Jim Lee. And

624
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:43,410
man, that he he just laid it all
out and explained why we've been

625
00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:48,150
seeing all those Tic Tac Toe
things in the sky, which is

626
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:50,640
seems to have increased
incredibly in the past. Do you

627
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,150
have a lot of chemtrails in the
sky where you are? Or you have

628
00:36:54,210 --> 00:36:57,960
nothing? Nothing ever happened?
Nothing bad in California. You

629
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,260
know,

630
00:36:58,290 --> 00:37:03,090
John C Dvorak: there's I saw
like one case, one trail maybe a

631
00:37:03,090 --> 00:37:05,130
week ago. No. And oh,

632
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,110
Adam Curry: so but you've seen
the pictures of people taking

633
00:37:07,110 --> 00:37:11,490
pictures of the sky? Yeah, I've
seen these criss cross. Which it

634
00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:16,980
Look, I've been a pilot since
2006. I've never seen it so bad

635
00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:20,910
as it is now. But you know what?
This guy has solved the mystery

636
00:37:20,940 --> 00:37:22,170
of the chemtrails,

637
00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:26,280
Unknown: the Obama
administration while everybody

638
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:31,410
was having the Trump Hillary
Clinton election, you know, wall

639
00:37:31,410 --> 00:37:34,320
to wall coverage. Everything
always happens. While nobody's

640
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,650
looking. Right? The Obama
administration signed the

641
00:37:37,650 --> 00:37:42,180
federal alternative aviation
fuel emissions pact with the

642
00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:48,240
European Union, China and the
ICA. This can be summed up in

643
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:54,270
just a couple word biofuels for
contrail control, which goes

644
00:37:54,270 --> 00:37:59,010
back to what alrik Schumann was
saying, to change the chemical

645
00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:03,750
constituents coming out of jet
aircraft, so that there's less

646
00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:08,850
warming, more cooling contrails.
So I got in touch with the guy

647
00:38:08,850 --> 00:38:14,130
at the FAA, who was testing the
biofuels. His name is Dr. Ranga.

648
00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:20,160
Sai how thorry that he's the
head of the FAA aviation climate

649
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,810
change research initiative. And
I specifically asked him, and I

650
00:38:24,810 --> 00:38:28,770
sent him the documentation as to
what did alrik Shuman mean by

651
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:32,730
less warming, more cooling
contrails predictable for

652
00:38:32,730 --> 00:38:37,860
operational planning. He says,
We want more contrail induced

653
00:38:37,860 --> 00:38:45,120
cirrus clouds by day and none by
night. This is this is intent. I

654
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,590
have this signed in writing
directly from the head of the

655
00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:51,930
FAA s. ACC era.

656
00:38:52,170 --> 00:38:54,360
Adam Curry: So if you've ever
looked up in the sky, he has

657
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,590
seen all those, I'll just call
out call them contrails. They

658
00:38:58,590 --> 00:39:03,120
don't evaporate, they eventually
spread out and become a cloud

659
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,650
cover cirrus clouds, which are
the flat clouds. And this,

660
00:39:07,950 --> 00:39:12,210
apparently what this Jim is
saying comes from a specific

661
00:39:12,210 --> 00:39:16,740
mixture of biofuels that is used
in the aviation industry. And it

662
00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:20,730
is in fact, what is creating
these grids in the sky. Now

663
00:39:20,730 --> 00:39:25,410
Unknown: you look and you see
American Airlines pairing up

664
00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:30,660
with Google artificial
intelligence to route planes

665
00:39:30,690 --> 00:39:36,270
around contrail forming spaces
in the sky. These are called Ice

666
00:39:36,270 --> 00:39:41,070
supersaturated regions,
basically Google AI and goes

667
00:39:41,130 --> 00:39:46,230
back to what Ulrich Schumann had
actually created in 2010. He

668
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:49,650
pretty he brings something
called co sip. The contrail

669
00:39:49,650 --> 00:39:55,710
Cirrus prediction tool. CO CIP
is involved is evolved to be

670
00:39:55,710 --> 00:39:59,520
part of what's called the next
gen transportation system in

671
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,240
America. Oh, that's what makes
all the tic tac toes in the sky

672
00:40:03,690 --> 00:40:04,170
will learn.

673
00:40:06,210 --> 00:40:09,120
John C Dvorak: If it was Google
AI wouldn't knows contrails be

674
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:09,720
black?

675
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,650
Adam Curry: No. Why? Oh,

676
00:40:14,940 --> 00:40:19,080
Unknown: wow, oh, hey, oh, part
of what's called the next gen

677
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,130
transportation system in
America. That's what makes all

678
00:40:23,130 --> 00:40:28,290
the tic tac toes in the sky. It
is a supercomputer that routes

679
00:40:28,290 --> 00:40:32,700
all the flights. And inside that
supercomputer is a subsystem

680
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:41,040
called the aviation environment
design tool. AED T in the ADT,

681
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,810
it tells planes, at what
altitude to fly, how much fuel

682
00:40:45,810 --> 00:40:50,130
to burn all of these things. And
it takes in environmental

683
00:40:50,130 --> 00:40:53,700
concerns into how it routes
flights. And

684
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:56,580
Adam Curry: that brings us right
back to the Biden Administration

685
00:40:56,580 --> 00:41:00,420
with an executive order which we
already knew was coming. And

686
00:41:00,450 --> 00:41:01,050
this is it.

687
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,900
Unknown: What did the Biden
administration just can't come

688
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:08,850
out with a report on solar
radiation modification? What

689
00:41:08,850 --> 00:41:12,870
three areas of study did they
say they want to focus on?

690
00:41:13,110 --> 00:41:16,740
Stratospheric Aerosol injection,
may call it solar radiation

691
00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:21,810
modification, and cirrus cloud
theny. So what you have here is

692
00:41:21,810 --> 00:41:26,700
a grand conspiracy between the
scientists who are trying to, as

693
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:30,330
they would put it, mitigate
global warming impacts from

694
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,650
aviation. But in reality, what
they're doing is they're turning

695
00:41:34,650 --> 00:41:39,750
what's been 60 to 80 years worth
of pollution into an active

696
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:41,310
geoengineering program.

697
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:46,290
Adam Curry: I think it makes
total sense. They've always been

698
00:41:46,290 --> 00:41:51,360
doing this. And we always knew
that one day they'll come I was

699
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,970
oh, no, we've got to do this
aerosol Bill Gates. Hello, Bill

700
00:41:53,970 --> 00:41:56,610
Gates. We got to this aerosol
stuff because it's for climate

701
00:41:56,610 --> 00:41:58,800
change. Well, they've been doing
it all along.

702
00:41:59,310 --> 00:42:03,150
John C Dvorak: Well, when I was
a kid, they were always seeding

703
00:42:03,150 --> 00:42:06,330
the clouds in California
constantly Sure. Seeding Yeah,

704
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:09,780
that's one thing what else still
claim it's still modification?

705
00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:11,220
Yes, yes. But

706
00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:13,920
Adam Curry: this is people had
been noticing they've been

707
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,700
noticing the criss crosses in
the sky. And here's your answer.

708
00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:21,930
Your This is the time remember
next gen, I was all over next

709
00:42:21,930 --> 00:42:24,570
gen because that was going to be
a whole bunch of things. And

710
00:42:24,570 --> 00:42:28,500
while I was looking at the pilot
was airplanes and how they were

711
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:32,790
going to decrease separation
with a really with the under the

712
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:37,020
hood as they were changing the
fuel, so that we have more of

713
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:41,280
these clouds that spread out and
is basically ruining our days.

714
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:44,490
It's it ruins

715
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,490
John C Dvorak: you go in there,
but okay, ruins your day.

716
00:42:49,890 --> 00:42:53,220
Adam Curry: You know, nice blue
skies. Oh, no, we can't have

717
00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:55,770
that. These people are crazy.

718
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,740
John C Dvorak: Well, that's for
sure.

719
00:42:58,770 --> 00:43:04,830
Adam Curry: I ruining our blue
skies. Okay, one more climate

720
00:43:04,830 --> 00:43:07,770
change clip, then we can move
away from that. This is the

721
00:43:07,770 --> 00:43:10,830
farmers are protesting once
again, they're in Europe.

722
00:43:11,070 --> 00:43:13,740
They're in the year, a year now
to control in Europe. They're

723
00:43:13,740 --> 00:43:16,860
mad and they're going to
Brussels. They're throwing poop

724
00:43:16,860 --> 00:43:22,590
everywhere. They're starting
fires. But just so you know, the

725
00:43:22,590 --> 00:43:25,560
people that they are looking to
the politicians they're looking

726
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,660
to, to solve their issues to
help them reduce these

727
00:43:30,660 --> 00:43:34,920
ridiculous climate change
regulations. There are let me

728
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:40,620
see what what political bent Do
you think they have? Could it be

729
00:43:40,620 --> 00:43:45,030
Oh, tell me far right. Yeah,
probably count the number of

730
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:45,570
times.

731
00:43:47,340 --> 00:43:50,310
Unknown: For the third time in a
few weeks, firecrackers and

732
00:43:50,310 --> 00:43:53,850
smoke dark in the sky in
Brussels EU court. The

733
00:43:53,850 --> 00:43:57,030
concessions given to them by the
EU so far have not been enough

734
00:43:57,030 --> 00:44:02,700
for these farmers, particularly
the youngest among young people

735
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:06,630
have a lot of expenses, so are
most in need of fair income. For

736
00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:10,980
the moment. This anger could
push these young people to move

737
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:14,970
away from the traditional vote
of the agricultural. It's

738
00:44:14,970 --> 00:44:18,930
clear that it was more center
right or even right wing. Here,

739
00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:21,540
all the cards are reshuffled,
and we don't know who the

740
00:44:21,540 --> 00:44:22,710
farmers will turn to,

741
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,100
especially since for several
months in the European

742
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:28,830
Parliament, far right parties
have been moving into

743
00:44:28,830 --> 00:44:31,980
traditional territory of the
array by casting themselves as

744
00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:36,030
the spokespeople for farmers the
embrace of state interventionism

745
00:44:36,030 --> 00:44:39,570
has been an ideological
evolution for certain far right

746
00:44:39,570 --> 00:44:39,840
groups

747
00:44:42,030 --> 00:44:45,000
can work very clearly in the
80s, we had far right groups,

748
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,880
typically the National Front in
France, which were more of a

749
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,360
neoliberal trend, but they have
evolved their discourse instead

750
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,300
of elements because it's an
opportunity to capitalize on

751
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:57,450
societal needs and perhaps
further broaden their electoral

752
00:44:57,450 --> 00:44:58,080
base.

753
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,500
The far right other target As
the environmental measures of

754
00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:04,410
the European Green Deal, which
remain at the heart of the

755
00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:07,620
debate, despite already being
significantly watered down

756
00:45:07,620 --> 00:45:08,160
recently

757
00:45:08,340 --> 00:45:11,340
Adam Curry: by the EU, there you
go. What do we count? Yeah, far

758
00:45:11,340 --> 00:45:11,760
John C Dvorak: right.

759
00:45:11,820 --> 00:45:14,880
Adam Curry: Far Right. The far
right, whatever that means. I

760
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:20,490
think they said farm right. Was
farm right? Yeah. Well, they

761
00:45:20,490 --> 00:45:24,630
don't you know, if you are
protesting and you're a farmer,

762
00:45:24,660 --> 00:45:26,220
you're basically a Nazi.

763
00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:28,950
John C Dvorak: That's yeah, that
makes nothing but sense. That's

764
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:32,370
Adam Curry: the whole idea.
Well, yeah, you what? Oh, no,

765
00:45:32,370 --> 00:45:34,230
no, you're part of the far
right.

766
00:45:35,220 --> 00:45:38,520
John C Dvorak: Not right. Not
conservative, although

767
00:45:38,610 --> 00:45:41,400
Adam Curry: that bastion of
freedom. They're in Berkeley,

768
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:45,090
right where you are, you know,
the ones that don't care about

769
00:45:45,090 --> 00:45:51,120
the rest of the country. Right.
Yeah. Are repealing repealing

770
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,600
its controversial ban on natural
gas appliances?

771
00:45:54,780 --> 00:45:56,790
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they
couldn't. There was a little

772
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:59,100
old. Yeah, nobody was buying
into this one. Yeah,

773
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:02,910
Adam Curry: but New York is
still all in there yet. He is no

774
00:46:02,910 --> 00:46:07,200
more pizza ovens. We actually
learned them into the idea. No

775
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:13,890
more monsters. It's crazy. The
UK though the Oxfordshire city

776
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,750
county council approved plans
this week to lock residents into

777
00:46:18,750 --> 00:46:21,630
one of six zones to save the
planet from global warning

778
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:27,060
warming. Yep, this is the 15
Minute neighborhood, instead of

779
00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:30,270
saying neighborhood under the
new scheme of residents wants to

780
00:46:30,270 --> 00:46:31,290
leave their zone.

781
00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:34,620
John C Dvorak: I love that.
Yeah. Well, you have to get a

782
00:46:34,620 --> 00:46:35,160
visa.

783
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,090
Adam Curry: Citizen. If you want
to leave your zone, they'll need

784
00:46:39,090 --> 00:46:41,370
permission. Yes, there it is.
There's your visa from the

785
00:46:41,370 --> 00:46:45,210
council. And they will decide
who was worthy of freedom. I

786
00:46:45,210 --> 00:46:49,530
think this is written with some
slant here. Under the new

787
00:46:49,530 --> 00:46:51,900
scheme, residents will be
allowed to leave their zone a

788
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:56,790
maximum of 100 days per year. So
you have a there's your budget.

789
00:46:57,330 --> 00:47:01,980
There's your climate budget 100
days a year, don't try to buy

790
00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:04,410
anything outside of the zone.
Because they'll know

791
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,340
John C Dvorak: you go Amazon
know Amazon's behind it, you

792
00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:09,180
know that right? But

793
00:47:09,180 --> 00:47:12,030
Adam Curry: if you go to Well,
I'm sure they helping you. But

794
00:47:12,030 --> 00:47:15,630
if you go to another zone and
get something to eat with your

795
00:47:15,630 --> 00:47:20,760
cashless society, they'll know
that every resident has to

796
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,600
register their car. And then of
course, their cars will be

797
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,940
tracked via cameras around the
city. It's all coming. It's all

798
00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:34,830
coming. It's so amazing. Between
that and four years of Trump, we

799
00:47:34,830 --> 00:47:39,450
have to stop after you know, in
was it,

800
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:44,430
John C Dvorak: the show was 2028
is the end of no agenda

801
00:47:44,430 --> 00:47:46,710
Adam Curry: just rise, the end
of the show just has to end we

802
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:49,920
can't handle it anymore. We
don't have the bandwidth for it.

803
00:47:50,940 --> 00:47:58,470
And then, of course, with war in
Ukraine, with with the terror

804
00:47:58,470 --> 00:48:03,390
attacks in Moscow, which now I
think we're Putin says we're

805
00:48:03,390 --> 00:48:09,330
both right. It was Ukraine, with
the US in the UK. So it wasn't

806
00:48:09,330 --> 00:48:12,360
just Ukraine. It was Ukraine
with the US in the UK, which by

807
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:17,610
the way, a lot of people have
deconstructed Victoria Newlands

808
00:48:17,610 --> 00:48:25,140
comments at the end of February
in in Ukraine in Kyiv. embsay

809
00:48:25,140 --> 00:48:27,570
Oh, yeah. And she was already
telegraphing it, which I thought

810
00:48:27,570 --> 00:48:31,200
was about the Taurus missiles,
which Germany didn't give. But

811
00:48:31,230 --> 00:48:34,230
here's that 38 second clip
again, where she talks about

812
00:48:34,410 --> 00:48:36,570
some mighty big surprise
surprises,

813
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:42,060
Unknown: I have to say that I
leave tonight, more encouraged

814
00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:50,520
about the unity and the results
about 2024 and its absolute

815
00:48:50,670 --> 00:48:56,040
strategic importance for
Ukraine. I also leave more

816
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:04,230
confident that even as Ukraine
strengthens its defenses. Mr.

817
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:08,790
Putin is going to get some nice
surprises on the battlefield,

818
00:49:09,060 --> 00:49:14,340
and that Ukraine will make some
very strong success as you see,

819
00:49:14,340 --> 00:49:15,840
Adam Curry: that's where I
disagree with the

820
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,110
deconstructionist she says on
the battlefield.

821
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,570
John C Dvorak: Yes, I agree. I
agree with you. So I

822
00:49:21,570 --> 00:49:24,690
Adam Curry: don't think I don't
think that was any telegraphing

823
00:49:24,690 --> 00:49:28,350
by any means. And there's some
pretty some very lengthy

824
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,850
deconstructions of it.

825
00:49:31,980 --> 00:49:35,370
John C Dvorak: But whatever
we'll take a concert hall

826
00:49:35,370 --> 00:49:38,220
outside of Moscow is quite on
the battle the

827
00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:42,360
Adam Curry: battlefield and now
Bo now ISIS ks every all ISIS K

828
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,820
they're threatening France
they're going to the threatening

829
00:49:44,820 --> 00:49:49,050
the Olympics, so it's always
fun. It's always fun to to bring

830
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,570
bring back ISIS K.

831
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:56,910
John C Dvorak: But anyway, Mrs.
K is right. ISIS k is not really

832
00:49:56,910 --> 00:50:00,630
anything to be brought back.
ISIS case stems from One

833
00:50:00,630 --> 00:50:05,370
specific Province in Afghanistan
starts with a que ya Corazon

834
00:50:05,460 --> 00:50:09,630
it's just a bunch of disillusion
Taliban guys the

835
00:50:09,630 --> 00:50:13,680
Adam Curry: whole thing is
ridiculous it is it is

836
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,370
ridiculous it's ridiculous but
you know it makes everybody

837
00:50:17,370 --> 00:50:20,940
worried and I read the shake
everybody up and but that

838
00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:24,690
doesn't matter at all because
all anybody can talk about is

839
00:50:24,690 --> 00:50:25,200
did he?

840
00:50:25,890 --> 00:50:28,680
John C Dvorak: Did he did he did
did he clips and

841
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,200
Adam Curry: and I got there you
are right on cue to disappoint

842
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,760
me with a whole bunch of detail.
Yeah, of

843
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,450
John C Dvorak: course because I
unlike you, yes, you deal with

844
00:50:36,450 --> 00:50:40,830
some popular storylines that you
reject out of hand. Wait, now

845
00:50:40,890 --> 00:50:44,940
Adam Curry: hold on a second. I
have not rejected anything out

846
00:50:44,940 --> 00:50:50,160
of hand. The I have said that
what is happening here is

847
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,760
they're washing the cup on the
outside. The inside is where all

848
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:59,580
the wickedness resides. This is
did he is just a cover for the

849
00:50:59,580 --> 00:51:03,360
true wickedness. That's what I
said. Okay, what's

850
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:04,650
John C Dvorak: the true root
wickedness?

851
00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:12,270
Adam Curry: Oh my god, the
lesbian witches who perform

852
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:18,780
witchcraft every single day in
front of our kids. Taylor Swift

853
00:51:18,810 --> 00:51:20,850
Madonna. Rihanna,

854
00:51:21,330 --> 00:51:23,430
John C Dvorak: was all in the
music industry, which is kind of

855
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:26,190
what he's brought up by this
Diddy thing. I lived with Sean

856
00:51:26,190 --> 00:51:27,510
Puffy Combs for a year.

857
00:51:27,540 --> 00:51:30,000
Unknown: That's the crazy thing
that that was Ellie Reed's idea

858
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:30,360
right? It's

859
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:32,610
Adam Curry: this is what you
want me to play? No, but

860
00:51:32,610 --> 00:51:35,550
John C Dvorak: this is good.
This is from 2016 Asha This is

861
00:51:35,550 --> 00:51:39,270
Asher. This is Asher complaining
about you know when he was a kid

862
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:42,180
he was taken it's always by the
way they also don't have all

863
00:51:42,180 --> 00:51:47,400
these clips. But Bieber I guess
was was taken in. Yes, by Diddy

864
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,600
to this camp by the

865
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,180
Adam Curry: way. It's it's like
not a secret within the music

866
00:51:51,180 --> 00:51:54,240
business. That Diddy is gay.
This is like oh,

867
00:51:54,270 --> 00:51:56,580
John C Dvorak: well in fact, I
don't have that clip either. I

868
00:51:56,580 --> 00:52:01,020
can just good. One of the guys
one of the guys that one of the

869
00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:04,530
guys who's doing the mate one of
the main complainers call it and

870
00:52:04,530 --> 00:52:10,410
he uses the term virgin whole
year kind of got which kind of I

871
00:52:10,410 --> 00:52:15,450
don't know how they got it on
Fox but they did. Williams he I

872
00:52:15,450 --> 00:52:18,210
think it was who it was. Oh cat.
Well, he says that did he wants

873
00:52:18,210 --> 00:52:21,030
to do everyone's you know and he
goes on about this. He said you

874
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:24,870
just have to say no. Yeah,
that's Katt Williams. And you

875
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:28,050
just have to say no, and you
know you back up. But yes, it

876
00:52:28,050 --> 00:52:30,090
seems as Joe in general.

877
00:52:30,210 --> 00:52:33,630
Adam Curry: If did he even
whispers the words virgin and

878
00:52:33,630 --> 00:52:37,860
hold to you? You need to say no,
I agree. This is very sound

879
00:52:37,860 --> 00:52:39,510
advice. very sound advice.

880
00:52:39,810 --> 00:52:42,840
John C Dvorak: But yeah, you can
let's play a short clip. I lived

881
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,220
with Sean Puffy Combs for

882
00:52:44,220 --> 00:52:46,440
Unknown: a year. That's the
crazy thing that that was la

883
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,020
Reed's idea, right? We're
sending yo yo to say the whole

884
00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:52,320
puffy flavor campaign with 13.
What we went

885
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,540
John C Dvorak: there to see the
lifestyle right. And I saw it.

886
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,530
But I don't know if I could
indulge and understand what I

887
00:52:58,530 --> 00:53:01,740
was even looking at. It was it
was pretty wild. So nobody tried

888
00:53:01,740 --> 00:53:05,940
to you know, some woman didn't
come alive. Okay.

889
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,330
Unknown: What I did say is that
there were very curious things

890
00:53:09,330 --> 00:53:12,000
taking place. And I didn't
necessarily understand

891
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,520
Would you ever send your kid to
puffy camp?

892
00:53:16,260 --> 00:53:19,050
Adam Curry: Yeah, so it was
actually just so you understand

893
00:53:19,050 --> 00:53:23,940
the the Genesis that puffy took
Usher on under his wing and

894
00:53:23,970 --> 00:53:28,380
Usher was the one who quote
unquote, discovered Bieber, and

895
00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:32,010
then he sent Bieber off to be
with with Diddy for two weeks.

896
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:38,250
John C Dvorak: Well, it's
sorted. Well,

897
00:53:38,250 --> 00:53:42,180
Adam Curry: yes. Hello. Oh, my,
there's gambling going on in the

898
00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:45,960
music business. What you don't
hear very much of is Clive

899
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,560
Davis. He's the one who
discovered Diddy if we go all

900
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,680
the way up the chain. And by the
way, if you notice, Diddy is now

901
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,340
a rapper. What happened to music
industry executive, which is

902
00:53:56,340 --> 00:54:00,270
what he really is, because he
runs all these labels and sub

903
00:54:00,270 --> 00:54:06,210
labels. And then of course,
y'all curry you're not doing the

904
00:54:06,210 --> 00:54:13,710
research. This is Epstein. Okay,
because yes. Oh, they're

905
00:54:13,710 --> 00:54:17,670
blackmailing everybody. I still
need to see one videotape from

906
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:18,060
Epstein.

907
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:21,570
John C Dvorak: Yes. Why they
would show us anything. Where's

908
00:54:21,570 --> 00:54:24,990
Adam Curry: the Hillary Clinton
video that that four cops

909
00:54:24,990 --> 00:54:27,300
committed suicide over? Where's
that?

910
00:54:29,970 --> 00:54:32,130
John C Dvorak: You think they
would get leaked somehow? You'd

911
00:54:32,130 --> 00:54:36,660
think? Well, the clips I have
are if I didn't take the

912
00:54:36,660 --> 00:54:39,900
mainstream media. I took Jesse
Walters. That's not mainstream

913
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:43,710
Adam Curry: media. Well, it is
but it's it's more mainstream

914
00:54:43,710 --> 00:54:45,600
than most. Well,

915
00:54:45,780 --> 00:54:49,410
John C Dvorak: the reason I say
it's not is because it's like

916
00:54:49,410 --> 00:54:54,510
watching a hysterical old lady.
Okay, Jesse Walters.

917
00:54:55,110 --> 00:54:58,800
Adam Curry: By the way. This is
its waters, not Walter's wallet

918
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,240
John C Dvorak: Walker's water US
waters Jessie waters is just

919
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:07,110
short of holding clutching his
pearls booklet you know the way

920
00:55:07,110 --> 00:55:10,020
you get to the top of your
blouse and you hold it tight

921
00:55:10,020 --> 00:55:14,340
against your neck. Is he says

922
00:55:14,370 --> 00:55:19,110
Adam Curry: he sounds like 99%
of all podcasts and rumble and

923
00:55:19,110 --> 00:55:23,250
YouTube videos. That's yeah,
that's and that's that's what

924
00:55:23,250 --> 00:55:25,860
everybody's does that well, your
algo brought up for you John

925
00:55:26,010 --> 00:55:26,610
Diddy.

926
00:55:28,620 --> 00:55:33,150
John C Dvorak: No. Oh, okay. No,
I was watching Jesse. Will Will

927
00:55:33,150 --> 00:55:34,290
Oscar show rock

928
00:55:34,290 --> 00:55:36,870
Adam Curry: rock Jesse Walker's.
Alright, let's get into it.

929
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:37,590
Shockwaves

930
00:55:37,590 --> 00:55:40,350
Unknown: reverberating through
the music industry after federal

931
00:55:40,350 --> 00:55:44,250
agents raided the LA and Miami
homes of billionaire Hip Hop

932
00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:48,360
mogul Sean Diddy Combs. Homeland
Security conducted the armed

933
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,710
raid and an alleged sex
trafficking operation TMZ leader

934
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:57,690
capturing Diddy pacing around a
private Miami airstrip did he

935
00:55:57,690 --> 00:56:00,840
wasn't arrested but his phones
were seized. And there's

936
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,450
speculation tonight that he's
fled the country we can't

937
00:56:03,450 --> 00:56:06,570
confirm it. Just breaking
tonight, though did his

938
00:56:06,570 --> 00:56:09,060
attorneys putting out a
statement saying quote there is

939
00:56:09,060 --> 00:56:13,680
no excuse for the excessive show
of force and hostility exhibited

940
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,250
by authorities. This
unprecedented ambush paired with

941
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,210
advanced coordinated media
presence leads to a premature

942
00:56:21,210 --> 00:56:25,260
rush to judgment of Mr. Combs
and is nothing more than a witch

943
00:56:25,260 --> 00:56:31,410
hunts. The raid was triggered by
a litany of lawsuits including

944
00:56:31,410 --> 00:56:35,550
from his own ex alleging abuse,
rape and sex trafficking did he

945
00:56:35,550 --> 00:56:40,740
settled that one but then, two
months ago, his former producer

946
00:56:41,130 --> 00:56:46,200
Rodney little rod Jones filed an
explosive lawsuit containing

947
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:50,790
disturbingly graphic and
disgusting details that not only

948
00:56:50,790 --> 00:56:53,370
implicate Diddy, but aim
straight at the heart of the

949
00:56:53,370 --> 00:56:54,330
music industry.

950
00:56:54,810 --> 00:56:59,970
Adam Curry: So in all of this
interesting that Diddy has not

951
00:56:59,970 --> 00:57:04,920
been arrested his kids weird his
kids are living at these houses.

952
00:57:05,550 --> 00:57:08,430
And let me tell you, you want to
see some messed up kids look at

953
00:57:08,490 --> 00:57:15,270
kids of billionaires. And but
he's right. Did he is putting

954
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:17,910
out a statement. He's right this
is a witch hunt the witches of

955
00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:19,890
the music industry Taylor Swift.

956
00:57:21,060 --> 00:57:24,780
John C Dvorak: Oh, beyond what
he did there.

957
00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:28,500
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. These
these are the evil ones. They're

958
00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:31,590
the satanists and Sam Smith.
We'll just call him a woman for

959
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:36,990
argument's sake. Who? Sam Smith.
Don't you remember he he was on

960
00:57:36,990 --> 00:57:40,020
the Grammys in the devil suit in
the cage brought to you by

961
00:57:40,020 --> 00:57:40,590
Pfizer.

962
00:57:40,620 --> 00:57:41,580
John C Dvorak: Oh, that guy?

963
00:57:41,610 --> 00:57:46,260
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. These it
is a witch hunt. In that regard.

964
00:57:46,290 --> 00:57:49,770
He's correct. It's a witch hunt.
The Witches are out to get them

965
00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:52,410
to cover up their own evil
doings.

966
00:57:53,310 --> 00:57:54,390
John C Dvorak: I like your
thesis

967
00:57:54,420 --> 00:57:55,740
Adam Curry: Thank you clip to

968
00:57:55,830 --> 00:57:58,830
Unknown: an elaborate
racketeering, blackmail and sex

969
00:57:58,830 --> 00:58:02,310
trafficking scheme that is
lawyers compared to Jeffrey

970
00:58:02,310 --> 00:58:06,720
Epstein's. Now, for over a year,
little rod had unfettered access

971
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:11,070
to Diddy's world, his homes, his
planes and his parties, where he

972
00:58:11,070 --> 00:58:15,120
claims he witnessed mountains of
narcotics, illegal firearms,

973
00:58:15,450 --> 00:58:21,150
police drinks, workers, and
underage boys and girls. The

974
00:58:21,150 --> 00:58:25,560
producer claims he was groped by
Diddy, groomed and forced into

975
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:30,030
humiliating sexual performances.
Did his chief of staff Christina

976
00:58:30,030 --> 00:58:34,440
quorum is said to have been the
galane Maxwell to Sean Combs Oh,

977
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,220
there it is. Allegedly ordering
her assistants to keep Mr. Combs

978
00:58:38,220 --> 00:58:42,900
high of gummies pills cocaine
and ecstasy and maintaining a

979
00:58:42,900 --> 00:58:47,220
steady stream of sex workers for
her boss. Now some of the women

980
00:58:47,250 --> 00:58:51,210
brought into Diddy's orbit were
under the age of 16. That's

981
00:58:51,210 --> 00:58:55,770
according to the complaint. The
lawsuit claims he required the

982
00:58:55,770 --> 00:59:00,210
sex workers and underage girls
to sign NDAs prior to entering

983
00:59:00,210 --> 00:59:03,540
as parties and prior to being
drugged and sex trafficked at

984
00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:03,990
these parties.

985
00:59:04,020 --> 00:59:07,590
Adam Curry: I don't believe this
first second sign this NDA Oh

986
00:59:07,590 --> 00:59:13,980
sure. Both now. Okay. So so far,
except for the underage part. We

987
00:59:13,980 --> 00:59:20,940
have drugs and hookers hmm
sounds like DC to me. I mean,

988
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:27,120
okay. This is all just salacious
gossip and and it's so

989
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,710
uninteresting in the world that
we live in. When Taylor Swift is

990
00:59:31,710 --> 00:59:35,370
performing witchcraft onstage in
front of your seven your seven

991
00:59:35,370 --> 00:59:39,900
year old. Oh, Taylor. The kids
are talking in tongues.

992
00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:45,120
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah,
that's true. That is a short

993
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,110
clips. Here's the last one

994
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,860
Unknown: that did he call these
his freakout parties and attend

995
00:59:49,860 --> 00:59:53,520
There you go free celebrities,
politicians, athletes,

996
00:59:53,550 --> 00:59:57,510
international dignitaries like
British royalty Prince Harry,

997
00:59:57,870 --> 01:00:01,890
and music label executives.
little rod clubs some of the

998
01:00:01,890 --> 01:00:05,580
biggest names in the recording
industry sponsored these parties

999
01:00:05,820 --> 01:00:09,870
with sex workers, drugs and
underage girls, the CEO of

1000
01:00:09,870 --> 01:00:15,390
Universal Music, Lucien Grange
is named as a defendant. So as

1001
01:00:15,390 --> 01:00:20,430
the former CEO of Motown Records
Ethiopia, Hubbard Merriam, and

1002
01:00:20,430 --> 01:00:24,960
others know rod says hidden
cameras were in every room of

1003
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,080
Diddy's homes. Little rod
believes that Mr. Combs

1004
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,190
possesses compromising footage
of every person that is attended

1005
01:00:32,190 --> 01:00:36,540
his free golf parties, and his
house parties, salacious tapes

1006
01:00:36,570 --> 01:00:40,020
of Hollywood's biggest names,
including record CEOs and

1007
01:00:40,020 --> 01:00:44,250
politicians doing drugs, and
cavorting with prostitutes and

1008
01:00:44,250 --> 01:00:47,730
minors. The complaint argues
that these free golf parties

1009
01:00:47,730 --> 01:00:51,720
were a business model, young and
up and coming talent attended

1010
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,110
and were promised career
opportunities and access to

1011
01:00:55,110 --> 01:00:59,100
music executives. They were then
plied with drugs and alcohol

1012
01:00:59,190 --> 01:01:03,570
filmed somewhere blackmailed.
There was a quid pro quo,

1013
01:01:03,630 --> 01:01:05,580
according to the complaint. Oh,

1014
01:01:05,610 --> 01:01:08,580
Adam Curry: wow. How surprising.
Well, I

1015
01:01:08,580 --> 01:01:11,280
John C Dvorak: have a question
for you. Yeah. How does this

1016
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,520
sound any different than a Hugh
Hefner, Playboy Mansion party?

1017
01:01:14,550 --> 01:01:18,330
Adam Curry: Not none at all. Not
at all. Except that there's a

1018
01:01:18,330 --> 01:01:21,270
promise of a career. Well, I
guess you know, you hey, I can

1019
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:23,610
get to Hugh I can get you in
Playboy. Maybe that was the

1020
01:01:23,610 --> 01:01:28,170
promise. Yeah, you're completely
right. It's ridiculous. The

1021
01:01:28,170 --> 01:01:30,480
whole thing is a big
distraction.

1022
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,600
John C Dvorak: A lot of don't
know. Oh, yes, it's

1023
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,450
Adam Curry: of course it is.
Have you seen what's going on in

1024
01:01:36,450 --> 01:01:39,330
the world? Airplanes are falling
out of the sky

1025
01:01:42,030 --> 01:01:44,220
John C Dvorak: by airplane fell
out of the sky. Well,

1026
01:01:44,610 --> 01:01:47,430
Adam Curry: the 737 max but that
you know, this piece is falling.

1027
01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:50,400
The Boeing is an unreliable
product.

1028
01:01:50,910 --> 01:01:53,430
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
there's your story. Yes. How did

1029
01:01:53,430 --> 01:01:55,710
that happen? We've talked about
on the show. We know how it

1030
01:01:55,710 --> 01:02:00,060
happened. Well, the GE guy in
charge anything that is what

1031
01:02:00,060 --> 01:02:03,480
you're gonna get. Hello. And he
quit. He's resigning. Yeah,

1032
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:05,820
yeah. And a year. Well,

1033
01:02:05,820 --> 01:02:08,250
Adam Curry: they've got to find
a successor but there's a new

1034
01:02:08,250 --> 01:02:11,820
twist a new twist in what's a
new chapter of Alaska flight

1035
01:02:11,820 --> 01:02:15,480
12am Sorry, a new chapter, not a
twist a chapter in what's a new

1036
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:15,960
chapter

1037
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,230
Unknown: of Alaska flight 1282
where the door plug on a Boeing

1038
01:02:19,230 --> 01:02:22,350
plane blew out while in the air.
The FBI Seattle division has

1039
01:02:22,350 --> 01:02:25,740
sent those passengers a letter
it says we have identified you

1040
01:02:25,740 --> 01:02:29,670
as the possible victim of a
crime isn't unusual for a letter

1041
01:02:29,670 --> 01:02:31,080
like this to be sent out.

1042
01:02:31,110 --> 01:02:35,340
This is extraordinary for the
DOJ and the FBI to be issuing

1043
01:02:35,340 --> 01:02:36,030
this letter

1044
01:02:36,060 --> 01:02:39,420
attorney Mark Lindquist said the
27 passengers he represents in a

1045
01:02:39,420 --> 01:02:42,510
lawsuit against Boeing and
Alaska Airlines received the

1046
01:02:42,510 --> 01:02:43,080
notice

1047
01:02:43,110 --> 01:02:46,890
this letter is a result of
cumulative errors by Boeing

1048
01:02:46,890 --> 01:02:50,970
cumulative negligence. The DOJ
has just lost their patience it

1049
01:02:50,970 --> 01:02:51,720
seems while

1050
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,870
the embattled company is not
named in the FBIs letter

1051
01:02:54,930 --> 01:02:55,560
linquist

1052
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,800
says everyone's drawing the
inference that the target is

1053
01:02:58,800 --> 01:02:59,340
Boeing,

1054
01:02:59,370 --> 01:03:02,760
Alaska Airlines tells como in an
event like this, it's normal for

1055
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,670
the DOJ to be conducting an
investigation. We are fully

1056
01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:08,370
cooperating and do not believe
we are a target of the

1057
01:03:08,370 --> 01:03:11,880
investigation. Boeing simply
said they weren't commenting

1058
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:15,300
linquist says the DOJ is working
to see if there's grounds for

1059
01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:16,770
new criminal charges,

1060
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,330
Dora replied blew out 16,000
feet. There were a variety of

1061
01:03:21,330 --> 01:03:26,580
injuries had this happened at
cruising altitude, you likely

1062
01:03:26,580 --> 01:03:29,250
would have seen people sucked
out of that hole. The pilot may

1063
01:03:29,250 --> 01:03:33,030
have gone unconscious due to
hypoxia. The plane may have gone

1064
01:03:33,030 --> 01:03:33,690
down and

1065
01:03:33,690 --> 01:03:36,540
in this case, the attorney
welcomes a federal

1066
01:03:36,540 --> 01:03:37,710
investigation. We

1067
01:03:37,710 --> 01:03:41,820
want accountability. We want
answers. And we want safer

1068
01:03:41,820 --> 01:03:43,800
planes from Boeing. Yeah,

1069
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,700
Adam Curry: I agree with that.
We definitely want safer planes

1070
01:03:47,700 --> 01:03:53,400
from Boeing boots on the ground,
of course. Word is spirit

1071
01:03:53,430 --> 01:03:56,610
Aerosystems these are the guys
who actually were split off from

1072
01:03:56,610 --> 01:04:02,520
Boeing I think will be Boeing
again by June 2025. The

1073
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,700
transition will start this June
will take one year to complete

1074
01:04:06,450 --> 01:04:09,270
of course very complicated
because after Boeing sold this

1075
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:12,720
Wichita division to what became
spirit almost 20 years ago,

1076
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,140
they've taken in work from
Airbus Sikorsky Bell and others

1077
01:04:16,140 --> 01:04:19,350
something Boeing will take it
all and spirit will just cease

1078
01:04:19,350 --> 01:04:22,500
to exist other think others
think Boeing will buy the

1079
01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:27,360
commercial part and the defense
part will remain autonomous. We

1080
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,970
should have a better idea in a
few weeks boots on the ground in

1081
01:04:29,970 --> 01:04:37,080
the industry close to the fire.
So that looks more and more like

1082
01:04:37,650 --> 01:04:40,650
military industrial complex work
is involved here too.

1083
01:04:41,580 --> 01:04:46,560
John C Dvorak: Obviously, yeah.
You don't want to change the

1084
01:04:47,010 --> 01:04:48,540
direction of the cash cow.

1085
01:04:49,140 --> 01:04:52,080
Adam Curry: Well, no, I never
thought that I would that I

1086
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:57,030
would be pro Airbus. Because you
know, they're basically plastic.

1087
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:02,400
I like sheet metal and rivets
but not these These guys are no

1088
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:03,000
good.

1089
01:05:03,810 --> 01:05:05,640
John C Dvorak: I don't have any
clips on this but I want to make

1090
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,590
some commentary on Bobby The Op

1091
01:05:07,620 --> 01:05:09,510
Adam Curry: I have a clip to set
us up.

1092
01:05:10,170 --> 01:05:11,340
John C Dvorak: Good. Here we go.
Robert

1093
01:05:11,340 --> 01:05:13,980
Unknown: F. Kennedy Jr. has
announced a relatively unknown

1094
01:05:13,980 --> 01:05:16,440
political new cover as his
running mate in the race for the

1095
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,560
White House. Silicon Valley
lawyer Nicole Shanahan will join

1096
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,790
his independent ticket as they
seek to win over voters unhappy

1097
01:05:23,790 --> 01:05:26,640
with a Biden Trump rematch
Shanahan is the ex wife of

1098
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,450
Google's co founder and says she
shares Kennedy's concerns about

1099
01:05:30,450 --> 01:05:32,610
the environment and vaccines.

1100
01:05:33,630 --> 01:05:37,440
There is only one candidate I
have met for president who takes

1101
01:05:37,470 --> 01:05:40,380
the chronic disease epidemic
seriously. It is Robert F.

1102
01:05:40,380 --> 01:05:45,420
Kennedy Jr. and I will be his
ally in making our nation

1103
01:05:45,420 --> 01:05:46,320
healthy again.

1104
01:05:47,310 --> 01:05:51,360
Shanahan has deep pockets she
donated $4 million to a Super

1105
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,580
PAC that bought a Superbowl
commercial.

1106
01:05:54,300 --> 01:05:56,460
Adam Curry: I'd have some
thoughts too, but you go ahead.

1107
01:05:58,050 --> 01:06:01,050
John C Dvorak: So this woman is
the one behind that Kennedy ad

1108
01:06:01,050 --> 01:06:04,560
that ran on the Super Bowl. That
was a top throwback to the 60s.

1109
01:06:04,620 --> 01:06:07,530
Of course, she wasn't born until
84 or something like that she

1110
01:06:07,530 --> 01:06:11,730
was doesn't even know who
Kennedy was. But okay, so she's

1111
01:06:11,730 --> 01:06:19,470
somehow responsible for that ad.
She was brought in when Kennedy

1112
01:06:19,470 --> 01:06:22,260
first came in as an independent
and and he looks like he's

1113
01:06:22,260 --> 01:06:25,470
polling for about 12% As we
speak, he gets on all the

1114
01:06:25,470 --> 01:06:27,600
ballots, which she can assure
because she's got a lot of

1115
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,720
money. That's it was the first
sir good clip the

1116
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,610
Adam Curry: Sergey Brin, settle

1117
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,800
John C Dvorak: he was married to
strike a rent for a little while

1118
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:40,290
she met him at a yoga camp and
got pregnant had a kid here they

1119
01:06:40,290 --> 01:06:41,160
got to did you

1120
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,410
Adam Curry: hear that?
Supposedly the reason they split

1121
01:06:43,410 --> 01:06:45,720
up is that she banged Ilan.

1122
01:06:46,530 --> 01:06:48,630
John C Dvorak: It was in the
newsletter. I thought you read

1123
01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:49,740
it. I'm just

1124
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,530
Adam Curry: not everyone who
listens to the show reads the

1125
01:06:52,530 --> 01:06:53,280
newsletter.

1126
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,160
John C Dvorak: Anyway, the
newsletter has a very nice clip.

1127
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,410
Adam Curry: By the way, no one
saw the newsletter. It went to

1128
01:06:58,410 --> 01:07:02,910
junk a lot of it Yeah, no, it
hurt everything hurt donations.

1129
01:07:02,910 --> 01:07:03,870
Everything it did

1130
01:07:03,870 --> 01:07:06,090
John C Dvorak: it did it where
you got screwed. And it had I

1131
01:07:06,090 --> 01:07:08,580
think it had to do with the
title using the word killer.

1132
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:15,060
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Yeah. So
it's on you. Yeah,

1133
01:07:15,150 --> 01:07:18,240
John C Dvorak: yeah, totally.
Well, it's not really because

1134
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,050
it's stupid.

1135
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,610
Adam Curry: Yes, Monty 83.
There's a newsletter. Stupid

1136
01:07:23,610 --> 01:07:24,150
trolls.

1137
01:07:25,140 --> 01:07:25,650
Unknown: So

1138
01:07:25,950 --> 01:07:29,280
Adam Curry: woman is no good.
She's just let me finish I'm

1139
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:29,820
sorry.

1140
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,030
John C Dvorak: So she went on
the suppose he had an affair

1141
01:07:33,030 --> 01:07:35,250
with the language they both deny
but he got divorced from her.

1142
01:07:35,250 --> 01:07:39,930
Anyway, she I think she's kind
of she is beyond the left wing

1143
01:07:39,930 --> 01:07:43,590
crackpot type because she just
recently as mentioned again, in

1144
01:07:43,590 --> 01:07:47,250
the newsletter, we discussed
that she just recently after

1145
01:07:47,250 --> 01:07:52,380
getting divorced, she's had a
druidic ceremony. So she's a

1146
01:07:52,380 --> 01:07:56,430
druid. And I should mention that
when I went to InfoWorld back in

1147
01:07:56,430 --> 01:08:01,530
the 80s it when it was initially
an intelligent machine journal,

1148
01:08:01,830 --> 01:08:07,530
it was run by Druids. Really?
Yeah. And Maggie cannon told me

1149
01:08:07,530 --> 01:08:09,930
about it because she says she
goes in there they go into some

1150
01:08:09,930 --> 01:08:12,330
Friday night or something. She
goes back into the office for

1151
01:08:12,330 --> 01:08:15,090
some reason. There's everyone's
wearing these horns on their

1152
01:08:15,090 --> 01:08:16,980
heads and doing some ceremony

1153
01:08:17,639 --> 01:08:18,869
Adam Curry: at InfoWorld.

1154
01:08:19,350 --> 01:08:19,980
John C Dvorak: Yeah.

1155
01:08:21,090 --> 01:08:23,550
Adam Curry: This is some Silicon
Valley lore I have not heard

1156
01:08:23,550 --> 01:08:23,940
yet.

1157
01:08:24,059 --> 01:08:27,299
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. And so
there's a lot of druidic

1158
01:08:27,299 --> 01:08:32,129
bullcrap in Silicon Valley and
she's a part of it, but

1159
01:08:32,130 --> 01:08:34,470
Adam Curry: they didn't they
meet at Burning Man or her

1160
01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:36,060
current guy who works here he

1161
01:08:36,060 --> 01:08:37,800
John C Dvorak: met at Burning
Man, I want to read a little

1162
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,800
clip from Britannic about
druids, the nobody knows

1163
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:46,410
anything about him. So it's all
all supposition and some kind of

1164
01:08:46,410 --> 01:08:50,010
just say, I've met a druid. i
Okay, tell us what you know. I

1165
01:08:50,010 --> 01:08:50,940
met a druid in

1166
01:08:50,939 --> 01:08:56,159
Adam Curry: Amsterdam, because
we got DMT from a druid that he

1167
01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:59,789
got it. That was Yeah, I did.
DMT twice in my life is not 20

1168
01:08:59,789 --> 01:09:04,319
years ago. By the way. I enjoyed
the experience don't have to do

1169
01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:09,029
it again. But I enjoyed the
experience. And a druid comes

1170
01:09:09,029 --> 01:09:13,679
over to the house. And it's
because of pure DMT is from tree

1171
01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:15,449
bark. It's not synthesized.

1172
01:09:15,690 --> 01:09:18,540
John C Dvorak: How do you know
he's a druid? Dude,

1173
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:21,390
Adam Curry: he had the horns on
his head and everything. No,

1174
01:09:21,390 --> 01:09:26,700
yes. Yeah, you had the lots of
you know, like, what's your name

1175
01:09:26,700 --> 01:09:30,300
from Stevie Nicks type flowing
robes and stuff. It was great.

1176
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,760
Hey, man, you got some got some
tree bark for me. So they're,

1177
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,520
they're a weird bunch. And when
I saw the picture in the

1178
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:44,850
newsletter of her having her
hand holding ceremony with the

1179
01:09:44,850 --> 01:09:49,650
guy who works at lightning labs
of all places, Bitcoin one no.

1180
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:54,300
Well, lightning Labs is very
specific. Lightning labs they

1181
01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:57,840
they built the first they built
lightning node which is for the

1182
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,590
Lightning Network. And those
guys I think have lost their way

1183
01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:04,080
to be quite honest. They're
there. They're a little nuts

1184
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:10,050
about money. Yeah, but she was
wearing like a druidic tree

1185
01:10:10,050 --> 01:10:14,340
outfit with leaves and stuff
barefoot.

1186
01:10:14,910 --> 01:10:17,430
John C Dvorak: So here's from
Britannica other Roman right.

1187
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:19,890
Nobody knew anything about the
jurists, and so they had to go

1188
01:10:19,890 --> 01:10:23,610
with Roman writings from Pliny
the Elder and others. Other

1189
01:10:23,610 --> 01:10:27,270
Roman writers also fixated on
druids love of blood and gore.

1190
01:10:27,420 --> 01:10:30,270
Pliny the Elder wrote of the
druids appreciation for both

1191
01:10:30,270 --> 01:10:35,520
mistletoe and human sacrifice.
To murder a man was to do the

1192
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,210
act of highest devoutness he
wrote, and to eat his flesh was

1193
01:10:39,210 --> 01:10:43,890
to secure the highest blessings
of health. Tacitus, the great

1194
01:10:43,890 --> 01:10:47,610
historian even described a
battle in Wales in which drew is

1195
01:10:47,610 --> 01:10:51,180
covered their altars with the
blood of captives and consulted

1196
01:10:51,180 --> 01:10:54,990
their deities through human
entrails. So they held up to you

1197
01:10:54,990 --> 01:11:00,240
know, somebody's in intestines,
who knows? Yeah. According to

1198
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:04,380
the writers, the pagan
practitioners presented an

1199
01:11:04,380 --> 01:11:08,490
existential threat to the
Romans. So my thinking is that

1200
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,790
this woman was introduced to the
campaign because Bobby, the OP

1201
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,990
came in, and he's polling about
12%. And initially, he was

1202
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:20,340
taking from both Biden and
Trump, but by bringing a drew it

1203
01:11:20,340 --> 01:11:25,110
in I pagan woman, who is
obviously a kind of a gold

1204
01:11:25,110 --> 01:11:29,790
digger, to say the least, she
comes in adds to the ticket,

1205
01:11:29,790 --> 01:11:34,590
she's, you know, charming
enough. And she will kill any

1206
01:11:34,620 --> 01:11:37,890
chance that a Trump voter is
going to cross over and vote for

1207
01:11:37,890 --> 01:11:41,550
Bobby DAPP. That's the ends that
is just he's only going to suck

1208
01:11:41,550 --> 01:11:45,720
away the votes from Biden. And
that's the reason she's there.

1209
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:46,050
That's

1210
01:11:46,050 --> 01:11:50,790
Adam Curry: the OP right there.
I completely concur. word around

1211
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:54,030
town. Because I know many people
who are looking at Bobby the

1212
01:11:54,030 --> 01:12:00,780
opp, oh, no, oh, no, no way.
Because he or she sent money to

1213
01:12:00,780 --> 01:12:07,590
the Soros sisters da A's. She's
a lib tard I'm just repeating

1214
01:12:07,590 --> 01:12:11,940
what people around town say is
completely and utterly

1215
01:12:11,970 --> 01:12:17,580
destroyed. Any chance of any
wavering Trump voter selecting

1216
01:12:17,580 --> 01:12:21,630
Bobby this way? And this? I
mean, first of all, it's just

1217
01:12:21,630 --> 01:12:23,790
pathetic. I mean, I understand
that he had to get on the

1218
01:12:23,790 --> 01:12:30,240
ballot, and he needs at like 15
or $20 million quick. So that

1219
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,820
was that was the choice is like,
Well, look, you got a lot of

1220
01:12:32,820 --> 01:12:38,010
money. I'll make you my VP. And
yes, I have to agree. I don't

1221
01:12:38,010 --> 01:12:42,540
like calling people. Gold Digger
easily, but she sure seems to

1222
01:12:42,540 --> 01:12:44,100
have all the traits of one.

1223
01:12:47,850 --> 01:12:51,030
John C Dvorak: So so that was
the idea. And now we've got

1224
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:54,540
Trump as a shoo in. Yeah.
Because they're just gonna

1225
01:12:54,540 --> 01:12:58,530
completely bother the app is
just an insurance policy to make

1226
01:12:58,530 --> 01:13:02,640
sure that Trump gets in here. So
somebody somewhere some guys

1227
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,630
pulling strings are intent on
getting Trump elected. And I'd

1228
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:09,690
say this is the time to do the
betting. If you're I have in

1229
01:13:09,690 --> 01:13:10,650
around Vegas.

1230
01:13:11,250 --> 01:13:15,570
Adam Curry: Get in now while
stocks last. So I watched the

1231
01:13:15,630 --> 01:13:21,900
majority of the fact Dell big
tree was there. Because a lot of

1232
01:13:21,900 --> 01:13:25,620
people like and I know even
though Trump is saying, Oh, it's

1233
01:13:25,620 --> 01:13:29,670
horrible, you know, you can vote
for him. He's no good, which I

1234
01:13:29,670 --> 01:13:32,940
think is part of the op. It's
just it's just materializing. It

1235
01:13:32,940 --> 01:13:39,360
still would not surprise me. If
if Kennedy if Trump wins, if

1236
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:44,760
Kennedy is not brought in for
some cabinet post. Yeah, it

1237
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,990
could be that would not surprise
me. Because all the people there

1238
01:13:48,990 --> 01:13:53,100
who were speaking and speaking
up to the up to Kennedy coming

1239
01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:57,180
out and then him announcing
what's her name?

1240
01:13:59,250 --> 01:14:02,340
John C Dvorak: What's her name?
Shanahan Shana

1241
01:14:02,340 --> 01:14:03,900
Adam Curry: chin. Shan Shan

1242
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:07,860
John C Dvorak: Shan That's your
new

1243
01:14:07,860 --> 01:14:10,230
Adam Curry: Nana Chan. That's
her new name. Yeah, so let's

1244
01:14:10,230 --> 01:14:13,740
make it a little racist while
we're at it. Shana Chan. Yeah.

1245
01:14:14,970 --> 01:14:20,310
We're people who had some very
interesting things to say. And I

1246
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:24,120
pulled one clip, because I was
watching in real time. Cali

1247
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:28,560
means this is the true med guy.
And I just love this. So who can

1248
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:35,370
Cali means is his name Le Cali
le meme means mea NS Cali means

1249
01:14:35,370 --> 01:14:40,590
so means okay. Yes. And he runs
through med which is a now

1250
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:49,770
natural path type outfit. The
anti farm by an anti Big Pharma

1251
01:14:49,770 --> 01:14:51,960
but he has a history with Big
Pharma and he talked about it

1252
01:14:52,260 --> 01:14:55,530
working for the food and pharma
industries early in my career.

1253
01:14:56,190 --> 01:15:00,000
My job was to funnel money to
institutions that America

1254
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,710
constrast we funneled money to
civil rights groups. In return,

1255
01:15:04,710 --> 01:15:08,190
the NAACP said it was imperative
to keep Coca Cola on food

1256
01:15:08,190 --> 01:15:12,510
stamps. They actually said it
was racist to take Ultra

1257
01:15:12,510 --> 01:15:16,230
processed food and soda off of
food stamps. And today soda is

1258
01:15:16,230 --> 01:15:19,350
the number one item purchased
with that program. We funnel

1259
01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:23,610
money to medical organizations,
the American Diabetes. Oh yeah.

1260
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:24,810
Oh, you've never heard this.

1261
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,390
John C Dvorak: No, I never heard
that soda was the number one

1262
01:15:27,390 --> 01:15:30,360
thing bought by food stamps. Oh,
yeah,

1263
01:15:30,540 --> 01:15:34,050
Adam Curry: of course. Well,
yeah, you can. You can use them

1264
01:15:34,050 --> 01:15:38,190
at fast food. Remember, very
important using your snap card

1265
01:15:38,190 --> 01:15:42,840
and fast food. They actually
said it was racist, to take

1266
01:15:42,870 --> 01:15:46,410
Ultra processed food and soda
off of food stamps. Today, soda

1267
01:15:46,620 --> 01:15:49,950
is the number one item purchased
with that program. We funnel

1268
01:15:49,950 --> 01:15:53,370
money to medical organizations.
The American Diabetes

1269
01:15:53,370 --> 01:15:56,010
Association of all groups took
millions of dollars from Coca

1270
01:15:56,010 --> 01:15:59,280
Cola, and they said small cans
of the drink was a good choice

1271
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:05,610
for diabetics. The American
Academy of Pediatrics 80% of

1272
01:16:05,610 --> 01:16:08,640
their funding comes from the
pharmaceutical industry. We

1273
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,180
funneled money to researchers, I
was shocked as a junior employee

1274
01:16:12,180 --> 01:16:16,140
to be communicating with top
professors at Harvard and Tufts

1275
01:16:16,140 --> 01:16:21,840
nutrition school. I found that
11 times more funding comes from

1276
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,500
the food industry for nutrition
research than the NIH. I found

1277
01:16:25,500 --> 01:16:28,230
out that more than 50% of the
Harvard Med school budget

1278
01:16:28,230 --> 01:16:31,950
touches farm in some way. We
funneled money to the media,

1279
01:16:32,430 --> 01:16:37,710
pharma funds over 50% of all TV
news funding and I realized that

1280
01:16:37,710 --> 01:16:41,790
wasn't influenced consumers.
That was influenced the the news

1281
01:16:41,790 --> 01:16:45,180
itself. And he went on and on
and on and on. And of course he

1282
01:16:45,180 --> 01:16:48,150
went into ozempic and have
that's going to bankrupt

1283
01:16:48,150 --> 01:16:52,440
Medicare. Even Bernie Sanders is
now coming out saying, Oh, we've

1284
01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:55,620
got to get cheaper. ozempic
Okay, thanks, Bernie. Yeah,

1285
01:16:55,620 --> 01:16:59,520
that'll do it cheaper ozempic
Don't don't mind you know, the

1286
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,700
fact that you're going to put
people on medication kids on

1287
01:17:02,700 --> 01:17:06,570
medication for the rest of their
life. But let's get back to the

1288
01:17:06,660 --> 01:17:11,760
to the food stamps or the snap
cards. Because you can use them

1289
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,300
at fast food and they have a new
addition which is just it's more

1290
01:17:15,690 --> 01:17:17,490
input for the ozempic to

1291
01:17:17,490 --> 01:17:20,130
Unknown: breakfast powerhouses
are teaming up three types of

1292
01:17:20,130 --> 01:17:23,460
Krispy Kreme Doughnuts are
reportedly go on sale at

1293
01:17:23,460 --> 01:17:27,420
McDonald's later this year. The
donuts will be available across

1294
01:17:27,420 --> 01:17:30,300
the country and McDonald's by
the end of 2026. After a phased

1295
01:17:30,300 --> 01:17:33,090
rollout the partnership could
increase the scope of Krispy

1296
01:17:33,090 --> 01:17:36,240
Kreme and today Krispy Kreme is
giving away a free doughnut

1297
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:40,380
between five and 9pm. To
celebrate less,

1298
01:17:40,380 --> 01:17:43,170
they're putting that conveyor
belt inside of the McDonald's

1299
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:45,030
rolling them off the hot

1300
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,970
Adam Curry: hey, go media loves
it. But wait, there's more. We

1301
01:17:50,970 --> 01:17:55,080
need more sugary stuff, whether
it's high fructose corn syrup,

1302
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:59,370
or sugar, aspartame or whatever
you want it to be. Yes.

1303
01:17:59,550 --> 01:18:01,710
John C Dvorak: I'd like to know
what McDonald's thinks it's

1304
01:18:01,710 --> 01:18:07,500
doing. First Kosmos thing which
is the sugary drink operation

1305
01:18:07,500 --> 01:18:11,910
and it was all about and we've
played many a clip Yes. From

1306
01:18:11,910 --> 01:18:17,280
people going, Oh, it's so great.
And now Krispy Kreme a Donuts,

1307
01:18:17,340 --> 01:18:20,670
donuts, Chai at McDonald's or
not? McDonough. If

1308
01:18:20,670 --> 01:18:24,360
Adam Curry: you had if you had a
nation that has money from the

1309
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:29,130
government in their hand and
their crack addicts, I'm pretty

1310
01:18:29,130 --> 01:18:32,610
sure if you were enterprising,
it'd be like Hey, Adam, I got an

1311
01:18:32,610 --> 01:18:35,670
idea. Let's stop this
podcasting. Nonsense. Let's

1312
01:18:35,670 --> 01:18:42,090
start a crack stand. So that's
all that sugar is, is crack it

1313
01:18:42,090 --> 01:18:45,870
may we have a nation addicted to
it. Boy oh boy. Oh no, but don't

1314
01:18:45,870 --> 01:18:49,890
worry, because you got the
ozempic now, and hey, hey, kids,

1315
01:18:49,950 --> 01:18:52,530
here's a good one for you. Let's
double down

1316
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,490
Unknown: Dunkin ready to give
you a little buzz spiked to iced

1317
01:18:56,490 --> 01:19:00,360
coffees and teas are officially
available now in Chicago. The

1318
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,840
coffee comes in four flavors
original caramel, mocha and

1319
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,410
vanilla. And while the teas have
some unexpected flavors, they

1320
01:19:07,410 --> 01:19:10,680
include a strawberry dragon
fruit and a mango pineapple.

1321
01:19:11,310 --> 01:19:14,760
Drinks are not available in
Dunkin shops. Instead, they will

1322
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,700
be at local grocery stores, of
course, Jenner and

1323
01:19:17,700 --> 01:19:18,510
the liquor store.

1324
01:19:18,990 --> 01:19:19,470
Why not?

1325
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,510
Adam Curry: Why not? Do you
think there's gonna be any

1326
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:23,490
raspberry in there, no

1327
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:27,240
John C Dvorak: sugar. backup
your piece about just buying

1328
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,870
everything left and right. I'm
not going to play any of the 20

1329
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:34,380
Minute promotion that they did.
But I want to play the intro to

1330
01:19:34,380 --> 01:19:38,460
it because this adds right into
it. This is the UBI presentation

1331
01:19:38,460 --> 01:19:40,320
on NPR work

1332
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,230
Unknown: on fighting poverty in
the USA pandemic government aid

1333
01:19:43,470 --> 01:19:46,950
made it clear that getting
people in need a little extra

1334
01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:49,770
money could help them in huge
ways.

1335
01:19:49,830 --> 01:19:53,580
And they spend the money in ways
that everyone does right on

1336
01:19:53,580 --> 01:19:56,700
those basics, going to the
grocery store, making sure the

1337
01:19:56,700 --> 01:19:59,970
rent is paid, paying the car
note those sorts of things.

1338
01:20:00,540 --> 01:20:05,220
Consider this universal basic
income one seemed like a radical

1339
01:20:05,220 --> 01:20:09,420
idea in the US before the
pandemic. But now many places in

1340
01:20:09,420 --> 01:20:12,780
the country are pushing to make
it a permanent part of the

1341
01:20:12,780 --> 01:20:13,830
social safety net.

1342
01:20:15,030 --> 01:20:17,460
Adam Curry: Yeah, oh, there was
a whole I missed that a whole

1343
01:20:17,460 --> 01:20:20,490
special on NPR about UBI. Yeah,

1344
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,560
John C Dvorak: went on and on
with people talking about

1345
01:20:23,310 --> 01:20:26,880
literally just throwing the
money away. And that's okay.

1346
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,310
Because that's, you know, that's
what people want to do. And they

1347
01:20:29,310 --> 01:20:32,640
got the money to do whatever
they want with it. And it's just

1348
01:20:32,700 --> 01:20:34,650
the damnedest thing ever heard.
Now,

1349
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:39,030
Adam Curry: this is remember,
my, my, my take on the COVID

1350
01:20:39,030 --> 01:20:42,750
situation has always been
financial. It's always been

1351
01:20:42,750 --> 01:20:48,630
financial. And now we have it.
This is perfect. We've got

1352
01:20:48,630 --> 01:20:52,710
inflation, oh, I'm sorry. It's
transitory. We've got inflation

1353
01:20:53,220 --> 01:20:57,180
that is transitory. In fact,
let's talk about that for a

1354
01:20:57,180 --> 01:20:57,600
second

1355
01:20:57,660 --> 01:21:01,290
Unknown: this morning. $1 won't
go quite as far at Dollar Tree

1356
01:21:01,290 --> 01:21:04,560
these days. The company now says
it will increase its maximum

1357
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:09,390
prices stores to $7. This year,
a $5. Cap was put in place last

1358
01:21:09,390 --> 01:21:13,320
summer. Family Dollar recently
announced it will close to 1000

1359
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,080
stores 30 of which are Dollar
Tree stores. So

1360
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,860
Adam Curry: they had a cap last
summer of $5. Now it's seven.

1361
01:21:20,340 --> 01:21:21,150
That's I

1362
01:21:21,150 --> 01:21:24,510
John C Dvorak: was a kid $1 Was
there used to be something

1363
01:21:24,510 --> 01:21:27,090
called the five and dime store.

1364
01:21:27,090 --> 01:21:30,900
Adam Curry: Yes, we had one
close just just last year here

1365
01:21:30,900 --> 01:21:34,980
in Fredericksburg. We had a five
and dime on Main Street and it

1366
01:21:34,980 --> 01:21:39,000
closed. But just think about it.
They had a cap of $5 at the

1367
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:43,740
dollar store a year ago. Now
it's $7. Is that not somewhere

1368
01:21:43,740 --> 01:21:47,790
like a 30%? Increase? That's a
big big jump. Yes. That's your

1369
01:21:47,790 --> 01:21:51,480
inflation. Look at it. Look at
Tiktok all the kids are crying.

1370
01:21:51,480 --> 01:21:55,710
They can't afford rent. They
can't afford anything. I mean,

1371
01:21:55,710 --> 01:21:57,900
in addition to their iPhone, of
course and their fancy

1372
01:21:57,900 --> 01:21:59,790
John C Dvorak: car, they go
yeah, they can spend two grand

1373
01:21:59,790 --> 01:22:01,050
on an iPhone, that's fine.

1374
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,690
Adam Curry: Well, that's on the
payment plan. You know, the it's

1375
01:22:03,690 --> 01:22:07,770
all finance. It's all finance
quote unquote. It's free. Yes.

1376
01:22:07,770 --> 01:22:11,550
All financed through AT and T T
Mobile Verizon. But if you

1377
01:22:11,550 --> 01:22:17,040
really look at the $7 trillion
that we created, 7 trillion was

1378
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,210
created by the banking system.
This came up on a very brief

1379
01:22:21,210 --> 01:22:25,470
segment with Muhammad Al Iran
Aireon. He's an economist. He's

1380
01:22:25,470 --> 01:22:30,840
often on CNBC, and they talked
about the $7 trillion that we

1381
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,570
printed, and what are we going
to do about it? Are we going to

1382
01:22:33,570 --> 01:22:36,270
catch up? Are we going to feed
or begin to, you know, we're

1383
01:22:36,270 --> 01:22:39,240
going to pay that off? Because
it's you know, it's debt when

1384
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:43,260
China bought that a lot of
Chinese purchasing of our debt.

1385
01:22:43,470 --> 01:22:44,070
And here,

1386
01:22:44,460 --> 01:22:45,990
John C Dvorak: first of all, by
the way, I just want to make it

1387
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:50,220
clear that the United States
Americans by our own, we are

1388
01:22:50,220 --> 01:22:52,140
stuck with the debt personally
stuck with the debt.

1389
01:22:52,140 --> 01:22:54,180
Adam Curry: Yes, our own
Treasury buy. We buy our own

1390
01:22:54,180 --> 01:22:57,750
debts called monetizing your
debt. We buy it ourselves

1391
01:22:57,750 --> 01:23:02,280
correct. And but what are we
going to do about it? Are we

1392
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,500
going to pay it off? We're going
to fix it, we're going to figure

1393
01:23:04,500 --> 01:23:06,900
it out. No. But why

1394
01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:09,060
John C Dvorak: are we at 7
trillion? Why 7 trillion next

1395
01:23:09,060 --> 01:23:09,300
year?

1396
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,110
Unknown: Why go to whether it's
to US or elsewhere? We watch it,

1397
01:23:13,380 --> 01:23:14,760
we you

1398
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:15,660
never go back from

1399
01:23:15,660 --> 01:23:17,250
the crisis. We don't that's

1400
01:23:18,810 --> 01:23:22,260
the Fed's balance sheet is the
same thing. It is sad. And at

1401
01:23:22,260 --> 01:23:24,750
some point, we're going to pay
for this, we will pay for this.

1402
01:23:24,810 --> 01:23:25,200
We have

1403
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,410
been saying this for so long,
that we're going to pay for it.

1404
01:23:28,410 --> 01:23:30,450
We're going to be talking to
Maya McGinnis a little later

1405
01:23:30,570 --> 01:23:33,540
about some of the issues
surrounding this, too. We've

1406
01:23:33,540 --> 01:23:37,320
been saying this for so long,
decades and decades. When does

1407
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:38,160
it actually

1408
01:23:38,220 --> 01:23:40,800
so remember the old PIMCO
concept of the cleanest dirty

1409
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,550
shirt? Okay, we live in a
relative world. So if we

1410
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:48,570
misbehave and others misbehave
more, we don't get punished

1411
01:23:48,570 --> 01:23:52,020
because we've got the reserve
currency, and we are the place

1412
01:23:52,020 --> 01:23:55,350
where people outsource savings
to so as long as we remain the

1413
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:58,470
cleanest dirty shirt, then we're
not going to be punished. If

1414
01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:02,880
others start being cleaner than
us, then then this will change.

1415
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,060
Adam Curry: We have the cleanest
dirty shirts. Exactly.

1416
01:24:07,470 --> 01:24:09,900
John C Dvorak: That's a great
analogy. It's perfect.

1417
01:24:10,260 --> 01:24:13,650
Adam Curry: And this is why they
have to they must create a

1418
01:24:13,650 --> 01:24:17,340
central digital bank, current
central bank digital currency

1419
01:24:17,340 --> 01:24:22,650
they have to for all the UBI for
all of the newcomers who are

1420
01:24:22,650 --> 01:24:27,570
welcoming in who if we're
getting your work permit, don't

1421
01:24:27,570 --> 01:24:32,730
worry. Here's your card. Here's
your ID. Here's your UBI this

1422
01:24:32,730 --> 01:24:41,820
it's a foregone conclusion. And
just to add to that, the me see

1423
01:24:41,820 --> 01:24:49,470
where do I have it here? The UBI
part or the digital ID part is

1424
01:24:49,470 --> 01:24:53,670
really approaching very rapidly
and we're going to usher that in

1425
01:24:53,850 --> 01:24:56,910
for social media. I know you
don't agree with it and you say

1426
01:24:56,910 --> 01:25:00,000
it's crazy and yes, you'll be
able to get around it, but can

1427
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:07,230
California already has SB 1228
large online platforms user

1428
01:25:07,260 --> 01:25:10,530
identity authentication, this
bill would require a large

1429
01:25:10,530 --> 01:25:14,100
online platform as defined to
seek to verify the name,

1430
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:16,800
telephone number and email
address of an influential user

1431
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:21,270
as defined by means chosen by
the large online platform, and

1432
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:24,930
would require the platform to
seek to verify the identity of

1433
01:25:24,930 --> 01:25:28,920
highly influential users as
defined by asking to review the

1434
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,220
highly influential users
government issued

1435
01:25:32,220 --> 01:25:36,510
identification. And this is
happening everywhere, including

1436
01:25:36,510 --> 01:25:37,680
Florida childhood

1437
01:25:37,860 --> 01:25:41,040
Unknown: has completely changed.
And the reason has changed, of

1438
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,130
course is because of the
smartphone kids today, teenagers

1439
01:25:44,130 --> 01:25:46,110
today. According to the
research, they are more

1440
01:25:46,110 --> 01:25:49,680
sedentary, more solitary, more
anxious, more depressed, more

1441
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:53,340
risk averse. Something has
changed, and it seems to be the

1442
01:25:53,340 --> 01:25:55,890
access to the phone. So now here
comes the state of Florida.

1443
01:25:55,950 --> 01:25:59,820
Yesterday, Ron DeSantis, has
signed the most restrictive

1444
01:25:59,820 --> 01:26:04,380
social media ban for teenagers
anywhere in the country, people

1445
01:26:04,440 --> 01:26:08,790
14 And under banned from social
media in the state of Florida

1446
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:13,440
for 15 and 16 year olds will
need a parental consent.

1447
01:26:13,740 --> 01:26:17,130
DeSantis says this satisfied me
the way the bill was written. I

1448
01:26:17,130 --> 01:26:20,280
think it's a fair application of
the law and the Constitution.

1449
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,290
There, of course, will be
lawsuits as there have been in

1450
01:26:22,290 --> 01:26:25,740
other states, the Republican
Speaker of the House there in

1451
01:26:25,740 --> 01:26:28,950
the state of Florida says we're
going to beat those lawsuits,

1452
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:32,010
we're going to beat them and we
are never going to stop this is

1453
01:26:32,010 --> 01:26:35,550
a major major deal. But how do
you police this? Exactly?

1454
01:26:35,550 --> 01:26:39,450
Because my 10 year old will
register on Instagram or Tiktok

1455
01:26:39,450 --> 01:26:43,050
as though she's of a certain
age, and it's about I have to

1456
01:26:43,050 --> 01:26:44,280
take the phone away? Well,

1457
01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:47,220
it becomes a legal liability for
the companies. I mean, the you

1458
01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:49,170
know, Instagram knows me well
enough to know that I spend a

1459
01:26:49,170 --> 01:26:51,990
lot of things in my pants and I
get nothing but ads for spilled

1460
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:54,540
things on pants, right that they
know their customer they know

1461
01:26:54,540 --> 01:26:57,630
when it's a 10 year old versus a
28 year old. But the point is,

1462
01:26:58,140 --> 01:27:01,620
past bands have struggled on
free speech grounds, right,

1463
01:27:01,620 --> 01:27:04,530
there's an access to information
that should be available even to

1464
01:27:04,530 --> 01:27:07,590
young people. What's unique
about the Florida law and the

1465
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:09,990
way it's written, which will be
a legal test that we're going to

1466
01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:13,140
be talking about is it's not
about the information. It's

1467
01:27:13,140 --> 01:27:17,340
about the qualities of the app.
So the infinite scroll, the

1468
01:27:17,340 --> 01:27:20,430
addictive algorithm, the
information you can access on a

1469
01:27:20,430 --> 01:27:23,790
WW dot straight up computer.
Yeah,

1470
01:27:23,790 --> 01:27:25,770
Adam Curry: and it goes on and
on and on. Okay, I want to go

1471
01:27:25,770 --> 01:27:30,810
down this rabbit hole for a few
minutes. Because there's a lot

1472
01:27:30,810 --> 01:27:35,640
of people out there talking
about the about the apps being

1473
01:27:35,670 --> 01:27:38,730
and social media being very bad
for children. Here's the ABC

1474
01:27:38,730 --> 01:27:48,300
Good Morning America. Let me see
is this sits Yes, this is I

1475
01:27:48,300 --> 01:27:51,780
think they bring in Jonathan
Haidt here who just wrote a book

1476
01:27:51,780 --> 01:27:54,390
about this. This is a Good
Morning America about the

1477
01:27:54,420 --> 01:27:56,160
Florida social media ban. We

1478
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,190
Unknown: turn now to a social
media show down in Florida Shona

1479
01:27:59,190 --> 01:28:02,730
Rhonda Santa signing a bill
banning children under 14 from

1480
01:28:02,730 --> 01:28:05,730
having their own social media
accounts. But it's expected to

1481
01:28:05,730 --> 01:28:08,280
face a number of legal
challenges and Ariel Russia

1482
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,820
joins us now with more can
imagine a bumpy road ahead.

1483
01:28:11,850 --> 01:28:12,180
bumpy

1484
01:28:12,180 --> 01:28:15,300
road ahead. A lot of very strong
opinions on this one. If this

1485
01:28:15,300 --> 01:28:18,270
law holds Florida will have one
of the most restrictive social

1486
01:28:18,270 --> 01:28:21,300
media bans in the country. The
bill signed by Governor Ron

1487
01:28:21,300 --> 01:28:25,200
DeSantis won't take effect until
January 1, and is likely to face

1488
01:28:25,230 --> 01:28:28,530
major legal challenges. The new
measure bars social media

1489
01:28:28,530 --> 01:28:31,950
accounts for children under the
age of 14 and requires parental

1490
01:28:31,950 --> 01:28:35,760
consent for 15 and 16 year olds.
It also mandates that social

1491
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,120
media platforms search for and
remove the profiles of kids who

1492
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,270
don't meet the age requirement.
proponents have argued that

1493
01:28:42,270 --> 01:28:45,300
access to social media is
harmful to children's mental

1494
01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:48,750
health. It's not yet clear which
social media companies would be

1495
01:28:48,750 --> 01:28:51,720
impacted. But the trade group
net choice which represents

1496
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,630
several major social media
giants slammed the move is

1497
01:28:54,630 --> 01:28:57,450
unconstitutional saying it
violates the First Amendment,

1498
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,780
the equal protection clause of
the 14th amendment and federal

1499
01:29:00,780 --> 01:29:04,110
law Florida. It's not the first
state to enact this type of ban

1500
01:29:04,110 --> 01:29:06,900
Arkansas and Ohio have also
passed similar legislation,

1501
01:29:06,900 --> 01:29:09,420
Lindsey but both are tied up in
court since

1502
01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:13,950
Adam Curry: the phrase was used
by requests. Yeah, we got to

1503
01:29:13,950 --> 01:29:16,440
bring that back. You got
slammed, they slammed the

1504
01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:21,300
slammed him for this. So then
they bring on Jonathan Haidt, H

1505
01:29:21,300 --> 01:29:25,650
AI d t, he wrote the coddling of
the American mind, great book.

1506
01:29:25,890 --> 01:29:29,490
And now he's gone off the rails
as far as I'm concerned. He's

1507
01:29:29,490 --> 01:29:34,170
now he is now advocating for the
only way we can do this as

1508
01:29:34,170 --> 01:29:37,890
government ID the only way which
of course, is not the solution,

1509
01:29:37,890 --> 01:29:39,030
but it is what I predicted

1510
01:29:39,060 --> 01:29:41,070
Unknown: and a new book is
addressing this issue. It's

1511
01:29:41,070 --> 01:29:44,640
called the anxious anxious
generation, how the great

1512
01:29:44,670 --> 01:29:49,350
rewiring of childhood is causing
an epidemic of mental illness.

1513
01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:52,500
And author and social
psychologist Jonathan Haidt is

1514
01:29:52,500 --> 01:29:53,760
joining us now to talk about

1515
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,520
Adam Curry: it. This is gonna be
interesting because all the

1516
01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:00,120
research that we even Zuckerberg
said it in the most recent I'm

1517
01:30:00,630 --> 01:30:03,630
hearing Oh, there's there's
absolutely no proof. There's no

1518
01:30:03,630 --> 01:30:06,930
proof that social media messes
your mental with your mental

1519
01:30:06,930 --> 01:30:08,970
health. There's no proof at all.
Why

1520
01:30:09,030 --> 01:30:10,710
Unknown: this book? Why now?

1521
01:30:11,580 --> 01:30:14,940
Because I'm a social
psychologist. And as I've been

1522
01:30:14,940 --> 01:30:18,960
digging into what's happening in
the social lives of kids, I've

1523
01:30:18,990 --> 01:30:21,900
graphed out all the data from
all these studies. And what we

1524
01:30:21,900 --> 01:30:25,620
see over and over again, is that
levels of mental illness,

1525
01:30:25,620 --> 01:30:28,200
they're sort of stable in the
tooth out early 2000s. And then

1526
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,440
right around 2012 13, they all
go shooting up, we're talking

1527
01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:35,430
about depression, anxiety, self
harm, suicide is up by more than

1528
01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:38,490
50% among American teens. And
it's not just us, it's actually

1529
01:30:38,490 --> 01:30:40,590
happening in many other
countries. So we need to

1530
01:30:40,590 --> 01:30:43,620
understand why and that's what
the book is about. So

1531
01:30:43,650 --> 01:30:46,980
Adam Curry: notice, he says,
2013, that is not that's when

1532
01:30:46,980 --> 01:30:50,850
the social media networks really
starts at will they had momentum

1533
01:30:50,850 --> 01:30:54,510
at that point, not the
introduction of the smartphone,

1534
01:30:54,540 --> 01:30:58,020
Unknown: can you really peg this
to smartphone use the age of the

1535
01:30:58,020 --> 01:31:01,050
smartphone and seeing the
prevalence of it and this

1536
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:05,220
generation Gen Z is really an
experiment in what happens when

1537
01:31:05,220 --> 01:31:07,170
you put a smartphone in
everyone's hand. Well, that's

1538
01:31:07,170 --> 01:31:09,720
right, because the millennials
went through puberty with flip

1539
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,180
phones and flip phones aren't
particularly bad you use

1540
01:31:12,180 --> 01:31:15,840
interest to communicate. It was
when we gave kids smartphones

1541
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,540
and then right around that time,
they also got Instagram and

1542
01:31:18,540 --> 01:31:21,210
other social media accounts.
When kids move their socialist

1543
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:24,240
onto social media like that.
It's not human, it doesn't help

1544
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:27,750
them develop. And right away
mental health collapses.

1545
01:31:27,780 --> 01:31:32,280
Adam Curry: Okay, so this, this
is bullcrap. Because Because

1546
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,550
Facebook didn't even have an app
for the longest time if you

1547
01:31:35,550 --> 01:31:39,210
recall, even Wall Street was
like Facebook man, they're not

1548
01:31:39,210 --> 01:31:41,520
going to make it because they
don't have an app. Remember

1549
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:45,270
that? No, yeah. So it wasn't the
smartphone. I'm not saying the

1550
01:31:45,270 --> 01:31:48,690
smartphone is great. But it
wasn't the phone and I have a

1551
01:31:48,690 --> 01:31:54,330
sneaky suspicion that this
lawsuit against Apple is is more

1552
01:31:54,330 --> 01:31:59,550
about taking away or distracting
from this social media companies

1553
01:31:59,550 --> 01:32:03,540
and the apps that run on the
smartphone focusing on on bad

1554
01:32:03,540 --> 01:32:07,110
apple all your bad. I think
we'll send a clip about that.

1555
01:32:07,140 --> 01:32:09,000
Let's let's bring it in. And
before I continue,

1556
01:32:09,030 --> 01:32:11,640
John C Dvorak: this is the we
didn't do the mash up of the

1557
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,180
apple or I'm sorry, the three by
three but this is the mash up of

1558
01:32:15,180 --> 01:32:18,750
the three by three that brings
every network into the picture

1559
01:32:18,750 --> 01:32:20,670
and their commentary about Apple

1560
01:32:20,700 --> 01:32:23,400
Unknown: today the US Justice
Department is looking to take a

1561
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:25,140
bite out of Apple the Department
of

1562
01:32:25,140 --> 01:32:28,140
Justice filing a landmark
lawsuit today against Apple. The

1563
01:32:28,140 --> 01:32:32,160
DOJ in 16 states accusing Apple
of monopolizing the smartphone

1564
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:33,300
market antitrust

1565
01:32:33,300 --> 01:32:37,080
lawsuit against Apple, the
second largest company in the US

1566
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,440
and the world, its stock fell
4%. Today consumers

1567
01:32:40,440 --> 01:32:43,680
should not have to pay higher
prices. Because companies break

1568
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:44,160
the law.

1569
01:32:44,460 --> 01:32:48,690
Attorney General Merrick Garland
claiming apple 70% domination

1570
01:32:48,690 --> 01:32:52,950
over the US smartphone market as
a result of illegal behavior.

1571
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:58,710
The DOJ alleges Apple worth $2.7
trillion unfairly tries to keep

1572
01:32:58,710 --> 01:33:02,310
users hooked on iPhones and
charges high fees from app

1573
01:33:02,310 --> 01:33:03,270
developers. Apple

1574
01:33:03,270 --> 01:33:07,320
has consolidated its monopoly
power, not by making its own

1575
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,890
products better. By making other
products worse,

1576
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,980
the Justice Department joining
more than a dozen states in

1577
01:33:13,980 --> 01:33:17,310
nearly a 90 page complaint,
accusing the company of

1578
01:33:17,310 --> 01:33:21,270
violating antitrust laws through
the iPhone, Apple Watch and

1579
01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:22,140
Apple Pay

1580
01:33:22,230 --> 01:33:26,070
and DOJ alleges the tech giant
blocks third party apps and

1581
01:33:26,070 --> 01:33:30,090
other services from competing
with Apple products like denying

1582
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:34,260
iPhone users access to any other
digital wallet tap to pay

1583
01:33:34,260 --> 01:33:36,240
service. Other than Apple Pay.

1584
01:33:36,270 --> 01:33:39,960
The DOJ specifically calls out
Apple for allegedly boxing out

1585
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,860
other companies devices to help
keep track of items like keys to

1586
01:33:43,860 --> 01:33:47,940
give an edge to its own air tag
and for allowing lower quality

1587
01:33:47,940 --> 01:33:50,640
text messages between iPhone and
Android users Apple

1588
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,210
pushing back saying in part,
this lawsuit threatens who we

1589
01:33:54,210 --> 01:33:58,830
are the principles that sell
products. We are if successful,

1590
01:33:58,830 --> 01:34:01,800
it would hinder our ability to
create the kind of technology

1591
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:03,810
people expect from Apple.

1592
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,810
Apple denies the allegations and
says a victory for the

1593
01:34:06,810 --> 01:34:09,900
government would also set a
dangerous precedent, empowering

1594
01:34:09,900 --> 01:34:12,630
government to take a heavy hand
in designing people's

1595
01:34:12,630 --> 01:34:13,680
technology. Apple

1596
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:17,610
basically telling DOJ See you in
court. The company is expected

1597
01:34:17,610 --> 01:34:20,610
to follow legal response soon.
Apple official said in their

1598
01:34:20,610 --> 01:34:24,300
statement tonight DOJ is lawsuit
is wrong on the facts and the

1599
01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:24,660
law.

1600
01:34:24,690 --> 01:34:28,050
The feeling inside Apple's
Cupertino headquarters is to

1601
01:34:28,050 --> 01:34:31,260
fight back hard against what
they are calling a misguided

1602
01:34:31,260 --> 01:34:34,230
assault. And the Justice
Department says if left

1603
01:34:34,230 --> 01:34:38,250
unchallenged Apple will continue
to strengthen its monopoly but

1604
01:34:38,250 --> 01:34:41,700
the department hasn't ruled out
even breaking up Apple if

1605
01:34:41,700 --> 01:34:45,300
necessary addressed except that
hasn't happened since Bell

1606
01:34:45,300 --> 01:34:47,640
systems back in 1982. Let's make

1607
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,310
it personal but I can't see my
mom certain videos or she can't

1608
01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:52,260
see me certain videos and so we
find

1609
01:34:52,260 --> 01:34:53,670
your mom iPhone.

1610
01:34:55,500 --> 01:34:58,440
Adam Curry: Yeah, I know they're
attacking the the most

1611
01:34:58,440 --> 01:35:03,780
successful device manufacturer.
They really are. Meanwhile, I

1612
01:35:03,780 --> 01:35:06,090
mean, this kind of just came
out. But this happened between

1613
01:35:06,090 --> 01:35:12,420
20 2016 and 2019. Facebook was,
was making a lot of their users

1614
01:35:12,810 --> 01:35:16,170
try out their VPN. Did you catch

1615
01:35:16,170 --> 01:35:19,200
John C Dvorak: this story? No, I
did not catch this story. Yes.

1616
01:35:19,380 --> 01:35:23,040
Adam Curry: So they had a VPN
product. And so they, you know,

1617
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:26,340
they offered, they have their
root certificate. And they were

1618
01:35:26,340 --> 01:35:29,070
and that this is this is all
emails that are published now.

1619
01:35:29,070 --> 01:35:32,610
And this is only just now coming
to light. Zuckerberg every it

1620
01:35:32,610 --> 01:35:35,610
was called Ghostbusters, this
project internally because they

1621
01:35:35,610 --> 01:35:42,210
had the they had the root cert.
They were conducting a man in

1622
01:35:42,210 --> 01:35:46,410
the middle attack to intercept
and decrypt what their users

1623
01:35:46,410 --> 01:35:51,480
were looking at on Snapchat,
YouTube and Amazon. I mean, that

1624
01:35:51,480 --> 01:35:54,480
is possibly the worst thing you
could do. And of course, it

1625
01:35:54,480 --> 01:36:00,390
makes you think about the VPN
provider using and they had kits

1626
01:36:00,420 --> 01:36:04,620
root kits for and or the kids
for Android and iOS, that

1627
01:36:04,620 --> 01:36:07,680
impersonated official servers
and decrypted traffic Facebook

1628
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,500
wasn't authorized access? Of
course not. So they could plan

1629
01:36:10,500 --> 01:36:13,530
competitive moves against
Snapchat and other companies.

1630
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:19,230
Nice. So wow, that's not a
that's not a big story at all.

1631
01:36:19,530 --> 01:36:19,980
No,

1632
01:36:19,980 --> 01:36:22,110
John C Dvorak: I like you said,
like I said, I haven't heard

1633
01:36:22,110 --> 01:36:24,060
this story. And it's a killer.
And

1634
01:36:24,090 --> 01:36:29,910
Adam Curry: on top of that, the
it's now coming out that the

1635
01:36:29,910 --> 01:36:36,960
Department of Justice demanded
from Google comm all information

1636
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:40,860
about certain accounts, users
who accessed certain YouTube

1637
01:36:40,890 --> 01:36:46,470
videos arrived around January 6.
Yeah, it is a good one. So if

1638
01:36:46,470 --> 01:36:50,070
you so you know, there you go.
You're you're watching the

1639
01:36:50,070 --> 01:36:53,790
video, you know, it gets heated
up. So it shows up your

1640
01:36:53,790 --> 01:36:57,660
recommendation, you click on it,
boom, you're on a list. Yep,

1641
01:36:57,750 --> 01:37:01,050
you're on a list this this is
it's all it's the season of

1642
01:37:01,050 --> 01:37:05,670
reveal was upon us. But we still
have to deal with the social

1643
01:37:05,670 --> 01:37:09,840
media companies. World Health
Organization getting in on the

1644
01:37:09,900 --> 01:37:10,620
on the gambit,

1645
01:37:10,650 --> 01:37:14,250
Unknown: the schoolyard bully is
increasingly becoming a cyber

1646
01:37:14,250 --> 01:37:17,730
bully. A new study from the
World Health Organization finds

1647
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,420
online harassment among
adolescents is on the rise

1648
01:37:21,540 --> 01:37:24,990
magnified by the increase in
their digital interactions.

1649
01:37:25,350 --> 01:37:30,270
About one in six adolescents say
that they have been cyber

1650
01:37:30,270 --> 01:37:34,230
bullied once or twice in the
last couple of months. And here

1651
01:37:34,230 --> 01:37:39,360
we can see that there's, there's
not much of a gender difference.

1652
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:39,780
The

1653
01:37:39,780 --> 01:37:43,830
study use data from 44 countries
and regions across Europe,

1654
01:37:43,860 --> 01:37:47,490
Central Asia and Canada.
Researchers surveyed more than a

1655
01:37:47,490 --> 01:37:52,860
quarter million kids aged 11 to
15 years old. For boys cyber

1656
01:37:52,860 --> 01:37:58,200
bullying peaked at age 11. For
girls, aged 13. And these kids

1657
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:03,510
now spend up to six hours a day
online bullying inside schools

1658
01:38:03,510 --> 01:38:07,710
has declined over the past
decade as cyber bullying surge.

1659
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:11,370
Social media companies, such as
metta have beefed up child

1660
01:38:11,370 --> 01:38:14,940
safety features recently, in an
effort to limit harassment and

1661
01:38:14,940 --> 01:38:19,230
exposure to harmful content. But
the WHO says there needs to be

1662
01:38:19,230 --> 01:38:23,160
more education around the
dangers of cyber bullying, as

1663
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:27,270
well as an increased investment
in peer violence monitoring. All

1664
01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:29,790
Adam Curry: right, so lots of
monitoring going up. But I'm

1665
01:38:29,790 --> 01:38:32,940
just thinking about, you know,
it was Google who pushed so

1666
01:38:32,940 --> 01:38:38,580
hard, Let's Encrypt push so hard
that every website has to be SSL

1667
01:38:38,580 --> 01:38:44,460
encrypted. Yeah. Which I refuse
on webpages that I host that are

1668
01:38:44,460 --> 01:38:49,710
just pages of like a show notes.
No, yeah, who cares? Well, they

1669
01:38:49,710 --> 01:38:53,010
also control the browser that
then shows a little thief with a

1670
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,250
with a mask like trying to get
your data is reaching through

1671
01:38:56,250 --> 01:39:01,860
your browser. Oh, dangerous. Oh,
except the risks move on. What

1672
01:39:01,890 --> 01:39:06,420
who controls those certificates?
Who controls the root

1673
01:39:06,420 --> 01:39:12,810
certificate of all this stuff?
Is it really to be trusted? I

1674
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:14,820
doubt that. I

1675
01:39:14,820 --> 01:39:15,600
John C Dvorak: doubt it too.

1676
01:39:16,500 --> 01:39:19,470
Adam Curry: So now we bring on
guys are all scammers at heart.

1677
01:39:20,100 --> 01:39:26,400
Now we bring on our Surgeon
General Vivek Murthy. And this

1678
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:30,870
is on CNN with the on the
Amanpour show. And well, it's

1679
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:32,040
everything just bad.

1680
01:39:32,070 --> 01:39:35,010
Unknown: Are you surprised that
this country I mean, you know,

1681
01:39:35,130 --> 01:39:38,790
pretty close to top of the
tables in the OECD nations is

1682
01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:41,850
the second most unhappy,
depressed country in the world.

1683
01:39:42,270 --> 01:39:45,330
Only Uzbekistan has it worse.
Oh, we're

1684
01:39:45,330 --> 01:39:47,130
Adam Curry: better than it was
Becca Stein, you might as well

1685
01:39:47,130 --> 01:39:49,020
just call us phone number wise.

1686
01:39:49,530 --> 01:39:51,510
Unknown: Well, I'm deeply
concerned. But I think one of

1687
01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:55,440
the key lessons from this is
that economic prosperity alone

1688
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:58,890
is not the key to happiness. And
in fact, what we are seeing is

1689
01:39:58,890 --> 01:40:01,650
that in many, many cases
entries, which are increasingly

1690
01:40:01,650 --> 01:40:04,470
modernizing in terms of their
economy, their culture, etc.

1691
01:40:05,130 --> 01:40:08,100
We're actually seeing that
unhappiness is growing. And I

1692
01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:10,530
think that's coming for a few
different reasons. One of them

1693
01:40:10,710 --> 01:40:13,470
is because we are actually
pulling further and further

1694
01:40:13,500 --> 01:40:16,470
apart from one another. With the
benefits and efficiencies of

1695
01:40:16,470 --> 01:40:19,890
modern technology and ways of
life, we actually have fewer

1696
01:40:19,890 --> 01:40:23,010
friends that we trust with your
relationships we can rely on.

1697
01:40:23,250 --> 01:40:26,100
And that is a direct impact on
our happiness and well being.

1698
01:40:26,370 --> 01:40:28,860
The other challenge, though, is
I think technology has been a

1699
01:40:28,860 --> 01:40:31,770
mixed blessing for us. And I
think particularly when it comes

1700
01:40:31,770 --> 01:40:35,340
to young people, the impact of
social media on their mental

1701
01:40:35,340 --> 01:40:38,460
health has often been quite
negative, which is why last

1702
01:40:38,460 --> 01:40:41,550
year, I issued a surgeon
general's advisory on social

1703
01:40:41,550 --> 01:40:44,790
media and youth mental health to
point out the fact that when

1704
01:40:44,790 --> 01:40:47,790
young people are using social
media, as they often are for

1705
01:40:47,790 --> 01:40:50,400
more than three hours a day,
they double their risk of

1706
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,080
anxiety and depression symptoms,

1707
01:40:52,260 --> 01:40:55,350
Adam Curry: which is great. We
can we can get more anti

1708
01:40:55,350 --> 01:41:00,120
depression drugs. Don't You're
not fooling me, Vivek. So let's

1709
01:41:00,270 --> 01:41:04,860
continue on. By the way, three
hours a day, try six, you have

1710
01:41:04,890 --> 01:41:08,280
Unknown: in fact gone even
further comparing social media

1711
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:12,630
and the tech companies to 20th
century car giants, which have

1712
01:41:12,630 --> 01:41:15,810
produced vehicles without
seatbelts and airbags until

1713
01:41:15,810 --> 01:41:17,400
legislation mandated it.

1714
01:41:17,730 --> 01:41:22,020
Adam Curry: What a horrible,
horrible analogy. How about just

1715
01:41:22,020 --> 01:41:22,770
drugs?

1716
01:41:22,830 --> 01:41:24,840
Unknown: What's happening in
social media is the equivalent

1717
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,330
of having children in cars that
have no safety features and

1718
01:41:27,330 --> 01:41:30,300
driving on roads, with no speed
limits, no traffic lights, no

1719
01:41:30,300 --> 01:41:33,120
rules whatsoever. And we're
telling you, you know, what, do

1720
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,310
your best figure it out? It's
insane.

1721
01:41:36,390 --> 01:41:39,660
Yeah, that is what we've done to
our children. It's we've put

1722
01:41:39,660 --> 01:41:43,230
them in unsafe, untenable
environments, and we're hoping

1723
01:41:43,230 --> 01:41:45,960
for the best and you know who
else we've placed a burden on

1724
01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:50,250
our parents, parents all across
the world are trying to figure

1725
01:41:50,250 --> 01:41:53,040
out how to manage social media
for their kids, these platforms

1726
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:56,100
are rapidly evolving. Many
parents never grew up with them.

1727
01:41:56,370 --> 01:41:58,560
And what they are finding is
that their kids are often

1728
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,500
exposed to extraordinary harms,
whether that's violence and

1729
01:42:01,500 --> 01:42:04,320
sexual content, whether it's
content generated by the

1730
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,350
algorithm that in some cases
tells them to harm themselves.

1731
01:42:07,740 --> 01:42:10,890
And the experience itself, many
young people tell me has led

1732
01:42:10,890 --> 01:42:13,260
them to often feel worse about
themselves and about their

1733
01:42:13,260 --> 01:42:16,740
friendships, yet, they feel they
can get off of it. Because the

1734
01:42:16,740 --> 01:42:20,580
features that are built in are
meant to maximize how much time

1735
01:42:20,730 --> 01:42:24,180
we all spend on them. And that
is a profound source of concern

1736
01:42:24,180 --> 01:42:27,420
for me as a doctor, as I watched
the profound the profound and

1737
01:42:27,420 --> 01:42:29,790
disturbing health effects on our
kid. Hey,

1738
01:42:29,790 --> 01:42:32,550
Adam Curry: Silicon Valley that
coming for you very

1739
01:42:33,870 --> 01:42:37,380
John C Dvorak: little side bit
in here, which is, this was the

1740
01:42:37,380 --> 01:42:42,780
same kind of complaint that we
heard in the 80s. about video

1741
01:42:42,780 --> 01:42:46,140
games, yeah, oh, these video
games are gonna ruin the

1742
01:42:46,140 --> 01:42:50,670
children. And then, in the end
that evolved over time and to

1743
01:42:50,670 --> 01:42:54,210
you know, simulations have good
and bad benefits. But then we

1744
01:42:54,210 --> 01:42:59,070
have these clips, listen to this
flow state of mind.

1745
01:43:00,180 --> 01:43:03,300
Unknown: There's a state of mind
called flow. When you're

1746
01:43:03,300 --> 01:43:06,570
completely absorbed in an
activity that's challenging, but

1747
01:43:06,570 --> 01:43:07,800
not too hard. artists

1748
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:11,400
feel it when they paint or draw.
Musicians feel it when they play

1749
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:14,820
an instrument. It's a sense of
deep engagement with an activity

1750
01:43:14,820 --> 01:43:17,850
where you might look up and
suddenly notice a lot of time

1751
01:43:17,850 --> 01:43:18,510
has passed

1752
01:43:18,540 --> 01:43:22,950
and flow can help you feel less
stressed, says Kate Sweeney, a

1753
01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:25,560
psychology professor at the
University of California,

1754
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:26,610
Riverside flow is

1755
01:43:26,610 --> 01:43:30,000
really good for us. It gives us
a lot of positive emotions. But

1756
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,700
it's also especially well suited
to times when we're really in

1757
01:43:32,700 --> 01:43:35,070
our heads when we're worried
about the future when we're

1758
01:43:35,070 --> 01:43:38,130
ruminating about something and
we just can't turn it off. Flow

1759
01:43:38,130 --> 01:43:40,650
is a pretty good off switch for
that kind of thinking. So he

1760
01:43:40,650 --> 01:43:44,220
says an easy way to achieve flow
is by playing video games.

1761
01:43:46,710 --> 01:43:48,840
Adam Curry: Before you know it,
you're in a movie produced by

1762
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:49,740
Dana Brunetti.

1763
01:43:50,730 --> 01:43:52,980
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
there's that but there's a part

1764
01:43:52,980 --> 01:43:57,510
two to this, but that it's like
wait a minute, everything that

1765
01:43:57,510 --> 01:44:01,380
we're all the information that
they throw at us is all bogus.

1766
01:44:01,380 --> 01:44:03,990
Can I just say tell us one thing
one minute and they tell us

1767
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:07,590
something else? The next is flow
thing I never heard and I would

1768
01:44:07,590 --> 01:44:08,340
say

1769
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:14,400
Adam Curry: that if you if we on
this podcast right now say video

1770
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:19,530
games are bad. There's proof
then you will get a million

1771
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:24,360
emails, new evidence video games
great me by the way. I think

1772
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:30,030
that's how a lot of dudes become
trans. But the video game

1773
01:44:30,030 --> 01:44:33,390
industry is huge. They have a
lot of money. They got a lot

1774
01:44:33,390 --> 01:44:36,570
biggest bigger than Hollywood.
They have a lot of money and

1775
01:44:36,570 --> 01:44:39,870
there's a lot of lobbying and a
lot of that has military

1776
01:44:39,870 --> 01:44:44,910
industrial complex who love the
simulation. If you can become a

1777
01:44:44,910 --> 01:44:49,110
third place at Lemond as a sim
driver, I'm pretty sure you can

1778
01:44:49,110 --> 01:44:54,180
be good on the battlefield if
you've played war Warcraft or

1779
01:44:54,180 --> 01:44:55,350
whatever it's called.

1780
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:58,830
John C Dvorak: Yeah, sports
ball. Yes, sports

1781
01:44:58,830 --> 01:45:01,020
Adam Curry: ball and the other
one the Yeah, what's what's the

1782
01:45:01,020 --> 01:45:04,500
other one call of duty? A bet
you, you bet you're a decent

1783
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:06,300
warrior a bit, you're good
solid.

1784
01:45:06,300 --> 01:45:08,730
John C Dvorak: That was the
thesis of a movie that's never

1785
01:45:08,730 --> 01:45:12,330
been produced again. It was
produced once in the 70s, called

1786
01:45:12,330 --> 01:45:15,090
the last star fighter and
everyone that listen to this

1787
01:45:15,090 --> 01:45:18,570
show probably seen the movie.
And it was based on the premise

1788
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:22,350
that they could put a video game
out into public domain. And then

1789
01:45:22,350 --> 01:45:26,100
the kid who could beat the whole
game and be the best in the

1790
01:45:26,100 --> 01:45:31,560
country, could be solicited for
an intergalactic battle of some

1791
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:36,210
bad dudes in outer space. I
totally one of the really great

1792
01:45:36,210 --> 01:45:38,400
movies, and it's never been
done. Again, it's never been

1793
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,610
fully explained why they can't
produce this movie, again, as I

1794
01:45:41,610 --> 01:45:46,860
think is because this is in play
as we speak. But you can claim

1795
01:45:46,860 --> 01:45:48,330
the second part of the flow one

1796
01:45:48,330 --> 01:45:50,040
Unknown: of the good ones,
there's really two groups of

1797
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:52,380
people who know a lot about
flow. That's psychologists and

1798
01:45:52,380 --> 01:45:55,500
video game signers. And video
games are really kind of as a

1799
01:45:55,500 --> 01:45:58,980
whole built for exactly this
purpose. They're getting harder

1800
01:45:58,980 --> 01:46:00,780
as you get better. They're
showing you and you're making

1801
01:46:00,780 --> 01:46:01,950
progress. Sweeney

1802
01:46:01,950 --> 01:46:05,910
studied how video games help
people worry less. She recruited

1803
01:46:05,940 --> 01:46:09,570
300 college students and put
them in a slightly stressful

1804
01:46:09,570 --> 01:46:10,290
situation,

1805
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,110
they were unexpectedly
photographed and made to believe

1806
01:46:13,110 --> 01:46:15,840
that their peers would be rating
their picture. While

1807
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:19,110
the students waited they played
a game that was similar to

1808
01:46:19,110 --> 01:46:19,800
Tetris.

1809
01:46:21,210 --> 01:46:23,790
There were three versions of the
classic game where players have

1810
01:46:23,790 --> 01:46:26,760
to stack up falling blocks,
there was a hard one where the

1811
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:29,970
blocks move too quickly and
frustrated the players as

1812
01:46:29,970 --> 01:46:33,090
slow one that was too boring,
and a

1813
01:46:33,090 --> 01:46:37,200
third version that was just
right, and allow players to

1814
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:38,310
achieve flow.

1815
01:46:38,700 --> 01:46:41,640
And the folks who were in that
state, that flow state that we

1816
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,430
created with the game, they had
an easier time waiting for that

1817
01:46:44,430 --> 01:46:47,100
news about their attractiveness
than those who were in the other

1818
01:46:47,100 --> 01:46:47,700
conditions.

1819
01:46:47,730 --> 01:46:51,960
Sweeney says flow can be a bit
of a gateway to addiction. But

1820
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:55,230
anything can be addictive. If
you do it too much. It's

1821
01:46:55,230 --> 01:46:58,410
a great tool for flow. As long
as you're not sort of overdoing

1822
01:46:58,410 --> 01:47:00,120
it and checking out too much
from your life.

1823
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,360
I need flow. I'm gonna download
that just write Tetris game.

1824
01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:06,120
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm telling
you, you get into a state of

1825
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,390
flow. You're primed to become
trans I'm telling you right now,

1826
01:47:09,420 --> 01:47:10,740
but you can do you can email me

1827
01:47:10,770 --> 01:47:12,510
John C Dvorak: call is called
flow because as soon as you're

1828
01:47:12,510 --> 01:47:15,360
gonna call yourself and flow, my
name is flow.

1829
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,720
Adam Curry: Yes, they put you in
a state of trance. Yeah, but

1830
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:24,360
simulation, it is a simulator.
And you'll you'll see. And I

1831
01:47:24,450 --> 01:47:27,600
know people who are too boomers
talking about video games. Hey,

1832
01:47:28,140 --> 01:47:30,960
we bet we've been around video
games longer than you've been on

1833
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:35,010
the planet. Okay. I was addicted
to asteroids for

1834
01:47:35,010 --> 01:47:38,940
John C Dvorak: quite a while.
Asteroids. Original that was oh,

1835
01:47:38,940 --> 01:47:43,050
gee, Pinball. Oh, gee, that's an
OG. Yes. Great. That was a great

1836
01:47:43,050 --> 01:47:43,950
game when it came out.

1837
01:47:43,980 --> 01:47:45,990
Adam Curry: Asteroids was
phenomenal. Especially the

1838
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:48,480
arcade version. Anyway, well,
that's

1839
01:47:48,480 --> 01:47:50,640
John C Dvorak: the one that
yeah, that was the one. Let's

1840
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:50,880
get

1841
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:54,150
Adam Curry: back to how we're
going to kill our kids. And now

1842
01:47:54,150 --> 01:47:58,860
with AI, by the way, for you,
dude, video gamers, this is for

1843
01:47:58,860 --> 01:47:59,580
you. So of

1844
01:47:59,580 --> 01:48:02,160
Unknown: course not everybody
thinks AI is going to be the

1845
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:06,390
replacement, you know, for
romance, not just dating apps,

1846
01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:10,380
but actual robots and things.
Whereby on. So

1847
01:48:10,380 --> 01:48:14,430
I think it can be tempting and
easy to look at AI as a panacea

1848
01:48:14,460 --> 01:48:17,610
for all ills, and it might be
easier and more convenient to

1849
01:48:17,610 --> 01:48:21,000
turn to a chatbot tend to go out
and build a relationship. But

1850
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,010
these are fundamentally
different. There is no

1851
01:48:23,010 --> 01:48:25,530
replacement for in person human
connection. It's how we were

1852
01:48:25,530 --> 01:48:29,400
evolved over 1000s of years we
were wired hardwired to connect

1853
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:32,880
with one another. And we've got
to intentionally build that back

1854
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:34,860
into our life now because it is
slipping away.

1855
01:48:34,950 --> 01:48:37,140
Adam Curry: I think we this is
where we bring in the in sells

1856
01:48:37,500 --> 01:48:40,590
Unknown: to bring this back in a
way to social media that you are

1857
01:48:40,590 --> 01:48:45,300
very concerned about social
media algorithms amplify

1858
01:48:45,330 --> 01:48:47,070
misogynistic content,

1859
01:48:47,220 --> 01:48:50,670
Adam Curry: again, they amplify
influencers telling you to get

1860
01:48:50,670 --> 01:48:53,850
on antidepressants because hot
girls take Lexapro What

1861
01:48:53,850 --> 01:48:57,960
Unknown: about women podcaster
and business professor at NYU

1862
01:48:57,960 --> 01:48:59,970
Scott Galloway has said you
know,

1863
01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:03,870
Adam Curry: business professor
isn't the professor of marketing

1864
01:49:05,130 --> 01:49:09,360
business but hold on stop it's
your it's your beat Scott

1865
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:14,040
Galloway that you can't tell me
as a business professor who may

1866
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:19,260
see this may see what is he
began be a clinical perfectly

1867
01:49:21,270 --> 01:49:25,560
Clinical Professor of Marketing.
What is that?

1868
01:49:27,450 --> 01:49:30,540
John C Dvorak: A click no idea
what that is. Sounds

1869
01:49:30,540 --> 01:49:32,820
Adam Curry: like something you
can get off of a podcast

1870
01:49:34,440 --> 01:49:37,110
John C Dvorak: like a clinical
professor, clinic

1871
01:49:37,110 --> 01:49:41,520
Adam Curry: Clinical Professor
of Marketing, at what school and

1872
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:42,090
why you

1873
01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:44,460
John C Dvorak: my NYU screwed
up.

1874
01:49:44,820 --> 01:49:46,320
Adam Curry: I mean, we could
give out clinical,

1875
01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:49,260
John C Dvorak: clinical,
clinical clinical podcasts.

1876
01:49:49,260 --> 01:49:50,640
That's our next PhD

1877
01:49:50,670 --> 01:49:54,270
Unknown: I misogynistic content.
Again, all about women.

1878
01:49:54,930 --> 01:49:59,100
podcaster and business professor
at NYU Scott Galloway has said

1879
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:02,520
you know because there is a
really dangerous phenomenon we

1880
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:07,230
do not want young, lonely,
depressed males, you know, you

1881
01:50:07,230 --> 01:50:11,460
know in society, which is what
social media is also enhancing

1882
01:50:11,460 --> 01:50:15,630
plus all those in sales, you
know women hating in sales, all

1883
01:50:15,630 --> 01:50:18,180
of this also is on social media
or when it

1884
01:50:18,180 --> 01:50:21,090
comes to the algorithms. I do
think that they are highly

1885
01:50:21,090 --> 01:50:25,020
problematic. I think they they
tend to amplify content that

1886
01:50:25,020 --> 01:50:27,780
has, as I think of it a high
emotional valence. That means

1887
01:50:27,780 --> 01:50:31,290
that content that's going to
stoke our emotions, if you want

1888
01:50:31,290 --> 01:50:35,520
to draw people's attention in
psychology will tell you that

1889
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:40,110
the best way to do that is just
stoke anxiety, fear and anger.

1890
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:44,340
There's so many parents that I
have met all across the United

1891
01:50:44,340 --> 01:50:47,640
States who have told me that
when their child was in a moment

1892
01:50:47,850 --> 01:50:51,750
of emotional distress, they
broke up with a girlfriend or a

1893
01:50:51,750 --> 01:50:54,720
boyfriend or they had a major
disappointment in life, that At

1894
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:58,020
those times, they have sometimes
turned to social media for help

1895
01:50:58,230 --> 01:51:01,500
somebody the algorithm has often
served up content that in fact

1896
01:51:01,500 --> 01:51:05,700
amplifies their sadness. In too
many cases, parents have told me

1897
01:51:05,700 --> 01:51:09,600
that in those settings, the
algorithm brought content to

1898
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,480
their child that not only
suggested that they take their

1899
01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:15,330
own life, but actually walk them
through how to do that. And in

1900
01:51:15,330 --> 01:51:19,140
many cases, their child did end
up losing their life. These are

1901
01:51:19,140 --> 01:51:22,620
unconscionable circumstances and
situations that should not be

1902
01:51:22,620 --> 01:51:23,130
allowed.

1903
01:51:24,990 --> 01:51:29,490
Adam Curry: Ah, here's Adams
advice, stop scrolling, start

1904
01:51:29,490 --> 01:51:34,590
seeking. Get off of this stuff.
Parents, if you're going to be

1905
01:51:34,590 --> 01:51:39,780
held responsible. We already are
putting parents in jail because

1906
01:51:39,780 --> 01:51:44,100
their kid got a gun and shot up
the school. You'll be

1907
01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:46,740
responsible for everything your
child does. If you don't get

1908
01:51:46,740 --> 01:51:50,580
them off social media. Get them
on the basketball court. Get

1909
01:51:50,580 --> 01:51:56,220
them on the fence, get him on
the fencing boards, anything,

1910
01:51:56,670 --> 01:51:57,810
anything but this

1911
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:01,110
John C Dvorak: let me cake the
fencing court how many schools

1912
01:52:01,110 --> 01:52:02,580
have that that's how

1913
01:52:02,580 --> 01:52:08,250
Adam Curry: I got into fencing.
I was quite good at fencing. You

1914
01:52:08,250 --> 01:52:11,550
know that, don't you? I would
say you bring it up every every

1915
01:52:11,550 --> 01:52:13,890
couple of years you bring in I
was third in the nation. He was

1916
01:52:13,890 --> 01:52:16,980
actually pretty good Dutch
nationals. I never got beyond

1917
01:52:16,980 --> 01:52:21,570
foil I was wanting to say but I
got stuck at foil. But if

1918
01:52:21,570 --> 01:52:25,620
fencing is it's pretty cool. And
they remember they came to the

1919
01:52:25,620 --> 01:52:28,290
school, they did a
demonstration. And they choose

1920
01:52:28,290 --> 01:52:30,900
two kids and then you're sitting
there like oh man, I wish they

1921
01:52:30,900 --> 01:52:34,410
would have chosen me and said
Hey, you can come by the studio.

1922
01:52:34,410 --> 01:52:37,380
It's actually a fencing studio.
Come by the studio. The master

1923
01:52:37,380 --> 01:52:41,220
will will give you a free
lesson. I was hooked. I loved

1924
01:52:41,220 --> 01:52:45,270
it. It was perfect for soy boys
is great. You don't need to be

1925
01:52:45,270 --> 01:52:51,210
that athletic to win at fencing
anything but this anything. It

1926
01:52:51,210 --> 01:52:54,360
John C Dvorak: won't even let
you do dodgeball anymore. Those

1927
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:55,800
things too dangerous.

1928
01:52:57,900 --> 01:53:00,360
Adam Curry: Yeah, I had I had
quite the reach actually, as a

1929
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:09,030
kid. All right. We can now move
to the latest in I think

1930
01:53:09,030 --> 01:53:12,990
replacement migration. Actually,
there's a there's a guy I think

1931
01:53:12,990 --> 01:53:20,670
he's on. I know he's on telegram
but he's also on Mon x bar RGV

1932
01:53:20,670 --> 01:53:26,700
truth RGV truth. And he has been
he is down by the border on the

1933
01:53:26,700 --> 01:53:31,890
other side. And he is sending me
pictures. It's all United

1934
01:53:31,890 --> 01:53:36,660
Nations International Office of
migration. They got signs they

1935
01:53:36,660 --> 01:53:41,040
got instructions. They you know
they give you your bag, your hat

1936
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:48,750
your card. It's all a setup this
all to move people into our

1937
01:53:48,750 --> 01:53:53,610
country because they don't want
to have wages rise. In fact, we

1938
01:53:53,610 --> 01:53:56,460
need to suppress them with cheap
labor. The minute they get here,

1939
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,700
the system gets overloaded see
Chicago then we need work

1940
01:53:59,700 --> 01:54:04,470
permits right away. Thank you
unions. And well what about the

1941
01:54:04,470 --> 01:54:07,710
people who were flying in? How
about those Senate

1942
01:54:07,710 --> 01:54:10,770
Unknown: amendment that 1000?
Yeah, here we go. Senate

1943
01:54:10,770 --> 01:54:13,560
amendment that would ban the use
of taxpayer money to fly

1944
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:18,180
migrants into the US goes down
and a whopping defeat. It was

1945
01:54:18,180 --> 01:54:23,190
5147. Every Republican voted for
it. Every Democrat voted against

1946
01:54:23,190 --> 01:54:25,770
it. Republican Senator Bill
Haggerty out of Tennessee

1947
01:54:25,770 --> 01:54:28,980
proposed the amendment. He joins
us in studio and hello to you

1948
01:54:29,850 --> 01:54:32,190
was the writing on the wall
before this thing even hit the

1949
01:54:32,190 --> 01:54:32,610
floor.

1950
01:54:32,700 --> 01:54:35,760
You know it was amazing. Chuck
Schumer tried everything he

1951
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:39,330
could to block this until the
very dead of night. We ran right

1952
01:54:39,330 --> 01:54:42,120
up to basically a government
shutdown before he finally

1953
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:44,940
capitulated and said okay, we'll
put it on the floor but I didn't

1954
01:54:44,940 --> 01:54:47,190
get it onto the floor till the
middle of the night, perhaps.

1955
01:54:47,580 --> 01:54:51,300
One 30 In the morning, when the
vote went down. I think they

1956
01:54:51,300 --> 01:54:53,700
thought no one would see it. No
one would see that every

1957
01:54:53,700 --> 01:54:57,480
Democrat voted to fly. illegal
migrants in here from countries

1958
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:01,350
like Haiti Cuba, Nicaragua,
Colombia. on taxpayer funds

1959
01:55:01,350 --> 01:55:04,440
using charter flights, flying
them over our border and putting

1960
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:06,870
them into the interior of
America, how many were talking

1961
01:55:06,870 --> 01:55:09,420
about Senator 320,000 last year?

1962
01:55:11,969 --> 01:55:16,559
Adam Curry: Now, on the other
hand, if we don't do this, and

1963
01:55:16,559 --> 01:55:20,579
this is an interesting way, also
a little bit about birth

1964
01:55:20,579 --> 01:55:26,459
control, and Planned Parenthood
and abortion rights, but look at

1965
01:55:26,459 --> 01:55:30,809
what's happening in Japan.
Immigration, not encouraged

1966
01:55:30,839 --> 01:55:34,979
immigration. I don't think it's
easy to go and live in Japan.

1967
01:55:34,979 --> 01:55:40,529
I'm not sure how hard it is very
hard. It makes sense. Yeah, it

1968
01:55:40,529 --> 01:55:43,679
makes sense because their birth
rate has plummeted. It's been

1969
01:55:43,679 --> 01:55:48,179
down for decades. And now this
is the result with birth rates

1970
01:55:48,179 --> 01:55:48,569
dropping

1971
01:55:48,570 --> 01:55:51,270
Unknown: dramatically. In Japan,
a company there has announced

1972
01:55:51,270 --> 01:55:54,660
that it is stopping production
of diapers for babies, it says

1973
01:55:54,660 --> 01:55:58,140
demand is simply not there.
Instead, it's refocusing on the

1974
01:55:58,140 --> 01:56:02,730
growing market diapers for
adults, in fact, firstly, your

1975
01:56:02,730 --> 01:56:07,290
parents have outsold diapers for
your newborn now for about a

1976
01:56:07,290 --> 01:56:11,730
decade. It's a surprising piece
of data that shines a light on a

1977
01:56:11,730 --> 01:56:15,570
serious problem. The number of
births in Japan dropped to a new

1978
01:56:15,570 --> 01:56:18,900
low last year with more than
twice as many deaths as new

1979
01:56:18,900 --> 01:56:22,650
babies born. If things continue
that way, Japan's population

1980
01:56:22,650 --> 01:56:27,630
could shrink by 30% over the
next 45 years. I'm pleased to

1981
01:56:27,630 --> 01:56:30,210
welcome to the day Jennifer
Robertson she's a Professor of

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Anthropology and History of Art
at the University of Michigan's

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basically the demographic, the
chart has flipped flopped in the

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past century and six successive
Japanese governments have they

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tried and been unable to
encourage you know, the people

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to get married and have more
babies.

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Adam Curry: Now listen to this.
Very

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Unknown: good question. Well,
during the height of the Pacific

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War, roughly 1932 to 1945. In
Japan, the government withheld

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birth control, and also allowed
soldiers to take two week

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furlough so they could
impregnate their wives to put it

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directly. Today in democratic
Japan, they can't do that. And

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so they are trying all sorts of
options, giving more money to

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families to have children. The
idea was floated back during the

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administration of the late
former Prime Minister Ave, in

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2006. Seven to introduce robots
to the home. But that hasn't

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proved feasible at all.

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Adam Curry: Robots Robo sapiens.
That's that's the answer.

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John C Dvorak: So the real
answer, which was a subtext in

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what she had to say, is,
financial incentives would make

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a huge difference. If it was a
real incentive as opposed to no

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incentive or oh, here's a tax
credit. Exactly. You start

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giving people the kind of money
they're just rolling away on the

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immigrants. You kick you get
some babies out of it. Yes. And

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no, they don't even think about
that. Because they don't want

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you.

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Adam Curry: That's right. That's
right. Well, that's our that's

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our choice here in America. make
babies. That's my that's my

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advice. Okay.

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John C Dvorak: So I want to get
onto Mars. Something a little

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different. Yeah, please, because
it's kind of an ask Adam.

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Adam Curry: I'm kind of
depressed now. I mean, we've got

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we got Japanese diapers for
adults. I mean, what are we

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going to do? robots? Robots.

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John C Dvorak: How about this?
This is an I consider this

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Adam Curry: a do I need to get
the jingle? No,

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John C Dvorak: I consider this a
native ad. This is NPR ad for

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WTF meals. This is not the
bonus, which I don't really,

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really want to play. But I want
you to play this home

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Unknown: chef delivers home
cooked meals to your dinnertime

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routine. Each weekly menu
rotates 15 oven ready and fast

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and fresh meals that cook in the
oven or microwave for a fresh

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flavorful meal with minimal
steps. After you're done. Toss

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the TIN for easy cleanup. Wow.

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Adam Curry: You're telling me
that wasn't an ad that is that

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really? No.

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John C Dvorak: That was an ad.
It was actually an ad ad copy.

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Yeah. So how does it question to
you is how does this differ from

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the 1970s? And, and something
called the Swanson TV dinner?

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Dinner? Sure, with the 10 that
you toss into the bin? Yes, this

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exactly the same. They re
introduced the Swanson TV

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dinner, to the American public
making some sort of a high tech

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bull crap, kind of like we're,
you know, apron and all these

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other operations kind of failed.
Here, we're gonna send you a

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whole box of these things. Cook
and put them in the oven. The

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microwave although it's putting
tinted stuff that you know metal

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in the microwave is not
necessarily productive.

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Adam Curry: But well hold on a
second. Let's let's let's see if

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we can find a Swanson TV dinner
commercial. 1955. Here we go.

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Unknown: You guys think you're
lucky you can get Swanson TV

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turkey dinners, but I say
Swanson TV turkey dinners are a

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bigger break for husbands. You
take me, I can be early. I can

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be late. I can bring pals to
dinner anytime I please and get

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this. My wife never panics.
Never pan Streisand TV turkey

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dinners from my fishing
compartment of our refrigerator

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when I'm a little off schedule.
And right You are Jack. And that

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is because Mary Lou knows that
she can have a swell dinner

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ready and just

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Adam Curry: Hey, honey, can you
make a swell dinner for me

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tonight? Honey,

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Unknown: right talk about easy.
Well, she just popped Swanson TV

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turkey dinners in a hot oven.
Their you know their oven ready

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and individual. He didn't serve
trays. Yes. What's the Swanson

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TV turkey dinners. You just heat
and serve and you serve big and

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hearty slices of moist tender
Swanson turkey with grand giblet

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gravy show cornbread dressing
and fluffy whipped sweet potato

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get to the 10 year old and
Swanson butter and garden

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frisbees with more butter.
Butter luckyme My wife uses

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Swanson TV turkey dinners. Make
your husband lucky to watch TV

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turkey dinner husband lucky
Swanson TV fried chicken

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dinners. Swanson TV beat dinners
from your groceries big freezer.

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They

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Adam Curry: didn't they didn't
have the payoff of toss the tin

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, well
everyone expected the toss to 10

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I guess they knew enough to do
that anyway.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, well here
Yeah, I was a kid. Here's a 32nd

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from the 70s this is better
maybe? Let's see.

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Unknown: Swanson puts dinner
together the way you like it.

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Crispy, juicy chicken with all
the fixings. When Swanson a you

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choose dark meat or lightweight
dinners you get just what you

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want. From today's Swanson, your
choice of chicken dinners.

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Adam Curry: No toss of the tin.

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John C Dvorak: I says a little
as an aside this the family

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ended up selling the business
course it folded after they sold

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it and bought the Swanson winery
in Napa Valley is really based

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on really, can

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Adam Curry: you toss away the
bottle? Of course you can. You

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can toss away the bottle. So
you're right. It's the only

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difference is the term TV.
Because that was the big thing

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is that and we had TV, dinner
trays and you'd say we had trays

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so you set it up. You'd be
sailing on the couch. Yep, right

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there on the couch. And it went.
And it was called that it was a

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TV dinner tray. Or TV dinner
table. Which one was it? I don't

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remember. Yeah, I

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John C Dvorak: still have a set
of him I used to use came around

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when she was a little girl.
Yeah, we have to eat in the

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dining room.

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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. No, it was
a big deal if we could eat in

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front of the TV that was like
oh, okay, kids. Because cool

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because the movies aren't
waiting for before we had video

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recorders. How can we sit? Can
we watch Can we eat dinner while

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we're watching TV mom and now
it's just a throw it in the

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microwave? Eat it while you're
on your video game and scrolling

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on Twitter. Now how we've
devolved let's start fencing

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kids start fencing. Okay, well
there was some kind of odd I

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have a couple of clips I would
like to play them. The M five M

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just went off the rails with
this Rona McDaniel Rana Rana

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McDaniels Yeah, I remember
firing. I have these are

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actually from deadline. So it's
what's your face? Nicole

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John C Dvorak: wall and it'll be
from Jessie wall. Walker.

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Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, I'm
gonna since it's about MSNBC and

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not Jesse walking. To play these
first times

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Unknown: in which we do this
when we meet you and us here at

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the table are don't have to tell
you this. Dire, the show has

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dedicated itself to a jarring
pursuit of the uncomfortable

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truth about our politics and our
political leaders and our

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justice system. And, yes, the
media today, this network, this

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part of that story. On Friday,
NBC News announced it had hired

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Rhonda McDaniel as a paid
contributor. By Saturday night

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it was reported in The Wall
Street Journal that MSNBC

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President Rashida Jones had
separated this network from that

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decision indicating that Rhonda
McDaniel would not appear on our

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air.

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Adam Curry: I love the series
s&s of just how serious Nicole

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Wallace takes herself and the
journalistic integrity of the

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NBC news department.

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John C Dvorak: I find this whole
story because of the NBC. The

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guy who runs the news
department, being a spineless

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weenie. And everybody and this
is the most amazing thing I've

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ever witnessed that some news
that these people think they're

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newsman, and then they're not.
They're just a bunch of

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chatterboxes

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Adam Curry: I'm Walter
Cronkite's, Prodigy debits I

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Unknown: Sunday morning
following her first paid

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appearance on NBC Meet the
Press. My colleague, Chuck Todd

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went full William McElroy

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Adam Curry: went for what?
William Knakal who's William

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McAvoy?

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John C Dvorak: Bye bye be right.
You're asking the wrong guy. And

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they'll look up William McAfee

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Unknown: on behalf of who's
paying her. What was that the

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RNC? She did say that, hey, I'm
speaking for the party. I get

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that that's part of the job. So
what about here, when NBC made

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the decision to give her NBC
News is credibility. You guys?

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What does she bring NBC News.
And when we make deals like

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this, and I've been at this
company a long time, you're

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doing it for access, access to
audience, sometimes it's access

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to an individual. And we can
have a journalistic ethics

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debate about that. I have that.

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Unfortunately, this interview is
always going to be looked

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through the prism of who is she
speaking for? Unfortunately,

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Adam Curry: they didn't have the
debate about all the shields

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that they have hired, like John
Brennan, for access to the

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intelligence community, all the
former generals they have for

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02:06:47,370 --> 02:06:51,480
access to the military
industrial complex. They have

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02:06:51,660 --> 02:06:57,330
Scott, what's his face from
Pfizer? You know, he's always on

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CNBC, for access to Big Pharma.
This is that's the debate that I

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02:07:03,330 --> 02:07:07,620
would have liked to have seen.
You have chip Todd, Todd

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podcaster, that you find out who
that guy is.

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John C Dvorak: There's a million
of them, including the ex CEO of

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Pan American Airways. No, you
can't figure out who it is a

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02:07:17,610 --> 02:07:21,090
football player, a botanist.
There's, there's that name is

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02:07:21,090 --> 02:07:24,930
very common. So I don't know
what the reference is to and I

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02:07:24,930 --> 02:07:27,720
guess you'd have to work at
MSNBC to understand it back to

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Unknown: Nicole Wallace. My
colleagues, Joe Scarborough and

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02:07:29,850 --> 02:07:32,130
Mika Brzezinski also weighed in
this morning.

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We weren't asked our opinion of
the hiring. But if we were we

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would have strongly objected to
it for several reasons. Oh, it's

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Adam Curry: the newsroom on HBO.
That's, well, there's a

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reference for you. The guy that
you're looking for.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, so it's a
fictional character

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Unknown: character behind but if
it were, we would have strongly

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objected to it for several
reasons, including, but not

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limited to, as lawyers might
say, Miss McDaniels role in

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Donald Trump's fake electoral
scheme. And her pressuring

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election officials to not
certify election results while

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Donald Trump was on the phone.

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To be clear, oh, we believe NBC
News should seek out

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conservative Republican voices
to provide balance in their

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election coverage. But it should
be conservative Republicans not

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a person who used her position
of power to be an anti democracy

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election denier.

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Adam Curry: Love it when the
news reports on itself and

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they're not just reporting on.
On other news, people know

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themself. They take themselves
so Do you not realize that we

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all laugh at you? That we mock
you? And and wait and this is

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the kicker? They take themselves
so seriously. For what are they

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doing? Like 900,000 viewers?
This podcast has more listeners

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than you have viewers people.

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Unknown: For our part here.
We're gonna cover this story as

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part of our ongoing series of
conversations about American

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02:09:10,980 --> 02:09:14,910
autocracy asking the question
are positing the theory that it

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could happen here? I'm gonna
read to you an excerpt from

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Timothy Snyder's on tyranny.
Timothy

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Adam Curry: Snyder on to who is
this?

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02:09:22,980 --> 02:09:23,730
John C Dvorak: Oh no, is

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Adam Curry: this another queer
reference and it's

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Unknown: standing by to talk to
us. This is from the first page

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that's the first chapter of on
tyranny, quote, most of the

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power of authoritarianism is
freely given in times like these

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individuals think ahead about
what a more repressive

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government will want, and then
offer themselves without being

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02:09:41,940 --> 02:09:46,500
asked. A citizen who adapts in
this way is teaching power, what

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02:09:46,500 --> 02:09:51,120
it can do and quote in this new
either way.

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Adam Curry: It's Timothy.
Timothy knows what he's talking

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about. This they are the
witnesses fart sniffing. That's

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with this is it's what farts
sniffing the sniffing each

2198
02:10:03,810 --> 02:10:06,150
other's farts. This is nasty and
then

2199
02:10:06,150 --> 02:10:09,630
Unknown: offer themselves
without being asked. A citizen

2200
02:10:09,630 --> 02:10:12,960
who adapts in this way is
teaching power, what it can do

2201
02:10:13,050 --> 02:10:17,340
and quote, in this instance, NBC
News either wittingly or

2202
02:10:17,340 --> 02:10:22,020
unwittingly is teaching election
deniers that what they can do

2203
02:10:22,050 --> 02:10:25,530
stretches well beyond appearing
on our air in interviews to

2204
02:10:25,530 --> 02:10:29,190
peddle lies about the sanctity
and integrity of our elections,

2205
02:10:29,190 --> 02:10:33,750
which Ron McDaniels did
yesterday at the press. Can you

2206
02:10:33,750 --> 02:10:36,600
say as you sit here today, did
Joe Biden win the election fair

2207
02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:37,860
and square one, he's

2208
02:10:37,860 --> 02:10:39,330
the legitimate environment

2209
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:43,500
where and square one it's
certified, it's done. But I do

2210
02:10:44,070 --> 02:10:44,220
want

2211
02:10:45,630 --> 02:10:48,630
to say that why has now to be
able

2212
02:10:48,630 --> 02:10:51,660
to I'm gonna push back a little
because I do think it's fair to

2213
02:10:51,660 --> 02:10:55,440
say there were problems in 2020
and to say that does not mean

2214
02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:55,800
he's not

2215
02:10:56,250 --> 02:10:58,800
Adam Curry: gonna win, you know,
wait for it. Here we go.

2216
02:11:00,090 --> 02:11:02,700
Unknown: But we've also said
election deniers is not just

2217
02:11:02,700 --> 02:11:05,220
they can do that on our airwaves
with that they can do that as

2218
02:11:05,220 --> 02:11:10,590
one of us as bad carrying
employees of NBC News as paid

2219
02:11:10,590 --> 02:11:13,050
contributors to our sacred
airwaves.

2220
02:11:15,180 --> 02:11:18,300
John C Dvorak: I have that in
one of my clips are so far so

2221
02:11:18,300 --> 02:11:19,830
good airways.

2222
02:11:22,410 --> 02:11:26,160
Adam Curry: You're on. You're on
cable Lady and Our sacred

2223
02:11:26,160 --> 02:11:30,570
airwaves. You're on dying cable.
Everyone's cutting the cord with

2224
02:11:30,570 --> 02:11:32,790
you. Oh mio Mio.

2225
02:11:32,820 --> 02:11:35,850
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Love this
sacred airway could

2226
02:11:35,850 --> 02:11:40,260
Adam Curry: airwaves. Yeah, how
about that? Everyone get the VAX

2227
02:11:40,440 --> 02:11:45,810
sacred airwaves. Okay, well,
since I'll just blow right into

2228
02:11:45,810 --> 02:11:46,560
Trump here.

2229
02:11:46,830 --> 02:11:49,050
John C Dvorak: But I want to
play my Jesse clips because they

2230
02:11:49,890 --> 02:11:51,120
get a little better about

2231
02:11:52,260 --> 02:11:55,110
Adam Curry: how many of you have
I hate that I hate the Jesse

2232
02:11:55,110 --> 02:11:55,800
stories.

2233
02:11:56,100 --> 02:12:02,280
John C Dvorak: Jesse Jesse
Weller his. His presentation is

2234
02:12:02,280 --> 02:12:08,130
sucks. Is it's decent here. Oh,
Rona one.

2235
02:12:09,990 --> 02:12:13,440
Adam Curry: You don't have any
you don't have Rhona one. Oh,

2236
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:15,360
fiasco is that the one Okay,

2237
02:12:15,660 --> 02:12:20,010
Unknown: McDaniels out. NBC just
announced they're firing the

2238
02:12:20,010 --> 02:12:24,060
former RNC Chairwoman after one
day on the job. I'm banning

2239
02:12:24,060 --> 02:12:28,290
Adam Curry: him after this. I'm
banning Jesse Walter Walton from

2240
02:12:28,290 --> 02:12:29,700
our airwaves. That's

2241
02:12:29,700 --> 02:12:32,430
Unknown: point three Scaramucci
from our sacred airwaves.

2242
02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:36,390
Chairman Cesar Conde just sent
out a memo to employees that

2243
02:12:36,390 --> 02:12:39,840
reads, I want to personally
apologize to our team members

2244
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:43,050
who felt we let them down. We
will redouble our efforts to

2245
02:12:43,050 --> 02:12:46,230
seek voices. They represent
different parts of the political

2246
02:12:46,230 --> 02:12:50,520
spectrum. The talent is already
taking a victory lap.

2247
02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:55,770
I still feel I still feel like a
little it always feels wrong to

2248
02:12:55,770 --> 02:12:58,470
talk about things, you know, in
the company. And I think it's a

2249
02:12:58,470 --> 02:13:01,260
show of respect for the people
who work at this company. You

2250
02:13:01,260 --> 02:13:04,410
know, it's not about hiring a
Republican. It's not even about

2251
02:13:04,410 --> 02:13:07,230
hiring somebody that's Trump
ties. This was a really specific

2252
02:13:07,230 --> 02:13:10,500
case because of Ms. McDaniels
and her involvement in the

2253
02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:14,340
election interference stuff. And
I'm grateful that our our

2254
02:13:14,340 --> 02:13:17,850
leadership was willing to do
that. I think this the bold,

2255
02:13:17,910 --> 02:13:19,410
strong, resilient

2256
02:13:19,410 --> 02:13:23,580
thing Oh, resilient. So NBC
breasted a 180 after the talent

2257
02:13:23,580 --> 02:13:26,580
revolted. The people who were
involved

2258
02:13:26,970 --> 02:13:30,720
in hiring Ronna Romney McDaniel,
they don't know the Nixon rule.

2259
02:13:30,750 --> 02:13:33,300
No one close to the crimes. This
is about

2260
02:13:33,300 --> 02:13:38,160
truth versus lies service to the
country versus service to one

2261
02:13:38,160 --> 02:13:41,190
man committed to toppling our
democratic system.

2262
02:13:41,190 --> 02:13:44,130
But we've also said election
deniers is not just they can do

2263
02:13:44,130 --> 02:13:47,100
that on our airwaves with that
they can do that, as one of us.

2264
02:13:47,430 --> 02:13:53,010
As bad carrying employees of NBC
News is paid contributors to our

2265
02:13:53,010 --> 02:13:54,030
sacred airwaves.

2266
02:13:54,060 --> 02:13:58,080
You wouldn't hire a pig pocket
to work as a TSA screener. Oh

2267
02:13:58,080 --> 02:14:01,920
no, I find the decision to put
her on the payroll. It's

2268
02:14:02,130 --> 02:14:03,240
inexplicable. This

2269
02:14:03,240 --> 02:14:06,060
Adam Curry: is what our news
media has become their reporting

2270
02:14:06,060 --> 02:14:10,890
on other news media is great.
It's it's it's atrocious.

2271
02:14:11,430 --> 02:14:13,320
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
these clips are better than the

2272
02:14:13,320 --> 02:14:16,290
ones you provided because it's
got Rachel in there. Oh, that's

2273
02:14:16,290 --> 02:14:16,740
Adam Curry: so much.

2274
02:14:16,740 --> 02:14:19,320
John C Dvorak: We have a double
band we have the band Jesse

2275
02:14:19,320 --> 02:14:19,920
Waller.

2276
02:14:21,030 --> 02:14:25,980
Adam Curry: Plus, and Daniel's
all of them.

2277
02:14:27,540 --> 02:14:29,790
Unknown: The second was a
kicker. Rhonda McDaniel tells

2278
02:14:29,790 --> 02:14:33,690
fox that she still hasn't heard
anything from NBC. She learned

2279
02:14:33,690 --> 02:14:37,110
she was getting fired by reading
it in the media. And now she's

2280
02:14:37,110 --> 02:14:40,950
looking for a lawyer and her
agency that walked her into this

2281
02:14:40,950 --> 02:14:43,440
gig CAA just dropped her

2282
02:14:45,750 --> 02:14:48,840
John C Dvorak: died now there's
information for you. Yeah, well,

2283
02:14:48,990 --> 02:14:53,940
I will agree the way C a blocked
her into the deal and then fired

2284
02:14:53,940 --> 02:14:58,050
her. What kind of what kind of
representatives are is that? Is

2285
02:14:58,050 --> 02:15:00,750
that a true story and we know
that for a Fact. Well,

2286
02:15:00,870 --> 02:15:06,420
Adam Curry: yes. And do you know
that most news people have an

2287
02:15:06,420 --> 02:15:13,350
agent and it's UTA universal
talent agents agency who manage

2288
02:15:13,770 --> 02:15:18,750
the talent, according to I
believe, what stories need to be

2289
02:15:20,310 --> 02:15:26,100
massaged by whom and where they,
you know, this. Laura Logan was

2290
02:15:26,100 --> 02:15:30,600
telling me about this that you
know, her agent will be talking

2291
02:15:30,600 --> 02:15:35,970
to her boss at CBS. And in the
age won't be at all she's

2292
02:15:35,970 --> 02:15:40,740
perfect to go to Afghanistan,
these this is underreported

2293
02:15:40,770 --> 02:15:44,760
under investigated, the talent
agencies have a lot of power.

2294
02:15:45,690 --> 02:15:47,190
And it's unjust.

2295
02:15:47,730 --> 02:15:51,090
John C Dvorak: Didn't this crop
up in a recent strike against

2296
02:15:51,090 --> 02:15:53,760
some of these guys by one of the
Writers Guild or somebody that

2297
02:15:53,760 --> 02:15:56,670
said that these agents were
having too much power? Remember

2298
02:15:56,670 --> 02:15:58,380
that was like five six years
ago?

2299
02:15:58,620 --> 02:16:01,020
Adam Curry: I vaguely remember
we should ask Dana. Dana well

2300
02:16:01,020 --> 02:16:02,670
let us know. Actually,

2301
02:16:02,670 --> 02:16:05,100
John C Dvorak: he would give me
a little Yeah, I could get a lot

2302
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:06,180
of information about who

2303
02:16:06,180 --> 02:16:10,410
Adam Curry: is who is baby a
ginger spices. Agent I want to

2304
02:16:10,410 --> 02:16:11,340
get the her agents.

2305
02:16:12,570 --> 02:16:14,700
John C Dvorak: News thing is
newspeople being controlled by

2306
02:16:14,700 --> 02:16:16,710
the agent, this is bullcrap all
of

2307
02:16:16,710 --> 02:16:20,190
Adam Curry: them at NBC or with
UTA as far as I know. And I hear

2308
02:16:20,190 --> 02:16:22,680
him talking about it sometimes
you have

2309
02:16:22,680 --> 02:16:24,960
John C Dvorak: to disclaim it.
That's the real underlying thing

2310
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:26,940
because she was represented by
CAA we

2311
02:16:28,470 --> 02:16:35,790
Adam Curry: will see a are the
ones who who organized the Well,

2312
02:16:35,790 --> 02:16:39,450
what was it called? Not never
again. Enough was enough. Stop.

2313
02:16:39,450 --> 02:16:45,240
What was it the around the
Harvey Weinstein thing? Yeah,

2314
02:16:45,270 --> 02:16:48,600
Melissa Gilbert. What was

2315
02:16:49,920 --> 02:16:52,290
John C Dvorak: all over tallies?
It's how famous it was. We can't

2316
02:16:52,290 --> 02:16:53,190
remember. Well, they

2317
02:16:53,190 --> 02:16:57,000
Adam Curry: suck at doing the
real work. What was the name of

2318
02:16:57,000 --> 02:16:59,340
that? Me too.

2319
02:16:59,370 --> 02:17:00,990
John C Dvorak: The Me too. Me
too movement.

2320
02:17:01,020 --> 02:17:05,070
Adam Curry: But there was an but
there was another one. They had

2321
02:17:05,070 --> 02:17:07,710
us not Melissa Gilbert. That's
horrible. She's fishy

2322
02:17:07,710 --> 02:17:08,550
John C Dvorak: cat hats.

2323
02:17:08,969 --> 02:17:12,689
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no. They
had it at the at the Oscars.

2324
02:17:12,689 --> 02:17:18,659
They were all wearing T shirts.
Oh, yeah. And what was the name

2325
02:17:18,689 --> 02:17:24,839
is? What was Rose McGowan with
her about I'm with her now.

2326
02:17:25,799 --> 02:17:31,799
Time's up. Time's up. That's it.
Times up and and who was that?

2327
02:17:31,889 --> 02:17:38,729
That That actress who is married
to a CIA agent. Time's up

2328
02:17:38,939 --> 02:17:43,019
Florida one now but it was she
was important.

2329
02:17:43,950 --> 02:17:45,210
John C Dvorak: Tallulah
Bankhead?

2330
02:17:46,530 --> 02:17:49,590
Adam Curry: Not even No. Not
even close. I'm thinking about

2331
02:17:49,590 --> 02:17:51,240
it now. And we'll get to it.

2332
02:17:52,230 --> 02:17:54,210
John C Dvorak: Anyway, that
you're just hoping the chat room

2333
02:17:54,210 --> 02:17:54,420
comes.

2334
02:17:54,450 --> 02:17:56,910
Adam Curry: I know I'm waiting
for like, come on trolls. What

2335
02:17:56,910 --> 02:17:59,730
are you doing? What are you
doing? Time's up was the one and

2336
02:17:59,730 --> 02:18:04,770
those in there some? Some
actress and she was all very

2337
02:18:04,770 --> 02:18:08,940
important to me. And she was she
was leading this and then it

2338
02:18:08,940 --> 02:18:12,120
kind of failed and then everyone
sunk away into the background.

2339
02:18:12,330 --> 02:18:15,480
Things always flop in there.
Yeah, they listen. Listen,

2340
02:18:15,480 --> 02:18:16,710
Milan. Oh, there it is.

2341
02:18:16,709 --> 02:18:19,679
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Oh,
Melissa Malama. Yeah, thank

2342
02:18:19,680 --> 02:18:24,180
Adam Curry: you clip custodian.
Anyway, moving right along. So

2343
02:18:24,600 --> 02:18:25,080
meanwhile,

2344
02:18:25,080 --> 02:18:28,380
John C Dvorak: you get off on me
for bringing in deti clips. And

2345
02:18:28,380 --> 02:18:33,240
in here you go off the deep end
with this kind of detail. That's

2346
02:18:33,270 --> 02:18:35,970
very celebrity news. Very to
play. Very

2347
02:18:35,970 --> 02:18:40,260
Adam Curry: weak comeback Dvorak
very weak. Trying to cry harder.

2348
02:18:42,540 --> 02:18:46,740
Meanwhile, Trump Media and
Technology Group dj t stock

2349
02:18:46,740 --> 02:18:52,110
ticker short sword sword is now
what are we at now? Six, almost

2350
02:18:52,110 --> 02:18:53,310
$62

2351
02:18:53,610 --> 02:18:55,860
John C Dvorak: And I think it
hits 75 At one polling dropped

2352
02:18:55,860 --> 02:18:57,060
back to fit the same. You see I

2353
02:18:57,060 --> 02:19:03,420
Adam Curry: have it 7120 was the
high I believe? And yeah, now

2354
02:19:03,450 --> 02:19:08,190
now it's today. It's about it's
6196. So that's working

2355
02:19:08,190 --> 02:19:15,300
perfectly. Perfectly for for
Orange Man bad. But we got to

2356
02:19:15,300 --> 02:19:17,640
take it one step further. This
is my favorite this

2357
02:19:17,640 --> 02:19:20,040
Unknown: morning ahead of his
criminal hush money trial.

2358
02:19:20,100 --> 02:19:23,850
Former President Trump is under
a new gag order prohibited from

2359
02:19:23,850 --> 02:19:27,330
making public statements about
witnesses, court staff and

2360
02:19:27,330 --> 02:19:30,450
jurors in the case concerning
his alleged payment to porn

2361
02:19:30,450 --> 02:19:31,950
actress stormy Daniels,

2362
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:36,029
Democrat judge he wants to do
that because they're all trying

2363
02:19:36,029 --> 02:19:37,889
to damage Trump as much as
possible.

2364
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:41,610
The gag order still allows Trump
to criticize the judge in

2365
02:19:41,610 --> 02:19:44,790
District Attorney. The trial
begins in three weeks, but

2366
02:19:44,790 --> 02:19:48,450
another deadline looms closer
Trump has eight days to post a

2367
02:19:48,450 --> 02:19:54,900
$175 million bond in a civil
fraud case. A big day on Wall

2368
02:19:54,900 --> 02:19:57,960
Street yesterday could help him
with his financial challenges.

2369
02:19:58,080 --> 02:20:01,860
Shares in Trump's media company
rose 16% on their first day of

2370
02:20:01,860 --> 02:20:04,770
trading, his stake in the
company is now worth more than

2371
02:20:04,770 --> 02:20:06,720
four and a half billion dollars.

2372
02:20:06,750 --> 02:20:10,260
This company is now valued at
about 1000 times its annual

2373
02:20:10,260 --> 02:20:12,540
revenue, it really doesn't make
any business sense.

2374
02:20:13,950 --> 02:20:17,790
Adam Curry: Unlike every AI
company, every bull crap company

2375
02:20:17,790 --> 02:20:21,720
we've seen in the past 30 years.
Of course, it doesn't make

2376
02:20:21,720 --> 02:20:22,830
sense. Today,

2377
02:20:22,860 --> 02:20:25,800
Unknown: Trump likely won't be
able to cash out though to later

2378
02:20:25,800 --> 02:20:26,820
this year. This

2379
02:20:26,820 --> 02:20:30,930
Adam Curry: is this is the
biggest lie I've ever heard. And

2380
02:20:30,930 --> 02:20:34,650
they're all doing it. Oh, he has
a lock up he can sell even the

2381
02:20:34,650 --> 02:20:37,860
Clinical Professor of Marketing
was spouting this bullcrap.

2382
02:20:38,250 --> 02:20:43,530
Anybody who has a $4 billion
stake can easily get half a

2383
02:20:43,530 --> 02:20:47,010
billion dollar caller. Do you
want to explain collars everyone

2384
02:20:47,010 --> 02:20:48,000
knows what we're talking about?

2385
02:20:48,030 --> 02:20:51,780
John C Dvorak: Yeah, collars and
off the book sale of the asset

2386
02:20:51,780 --> 02:20:55,590
to somebody else some, some
person or entity that gives you

2387
02:20:55,590 --> 02:20:58,770
the money in advance. It's it's
I don't know why it's called a

2388
02:20:58,770 --> 02:21:00,420
collar. I should know well, but

2389
02:21:00,450 --> 02:21:03,060
Adam Curry: it's a collar around
your neck. It

2390
02:21:03,060 --> 02:21:08,070
John C Dvorak: but the board
would know this to the board can

2391
02:21:08,100 --> 02:21:13,110
grant him the ability to sell
the stock tomorrow or at least

2392
02:21:13,110 --> 02:21:16,980
sell $150 million worth of it
tomorrow, which is not that big

2393
02:21:16,980 --> 02:21:21,420
of a steak. It won't sink to
thing if they want to. And he's

2394
02:21:21,420 --> 02:21:25,260
the guy that's that keeps the
thing in check. It's him. It's

2395
02:21:25,260 --> 02:21:27,870
his name. If he went to the
board and asked for that you

2396
02:21:27,870 --> 02:21:31,770
think they'd say no. That's the
dumbest thing to forget the

2397
02:21:31,770 --> 02:21:37,350
caller. Yeah, but no way. They
wouldn't say no. They'd say

2398
02:21:37,380 --> 02:21:42,210
Sure. Here. You know, here's
your your your your lockup is

2399
02:21:42,210 --> 02:21:42,690
over.

2400
02:21:42,720 --> 02:21:45,900
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. Well,
but he can't sell it. How's he

2401
02:21:45,900 --> 02:21:48,900
going to? You know what, he's
got a new Gambit. I love it. And

2402
02:21:48,900 --> 02:21:49,950
I'm buying me one.

2403
02:21:50,070 --> 02:21:52,590
Unknown: It's annual revenue. It
really doesn't make any business

2404
02:21:52,590 --> 02:21:54,780
sense from where we stand today.
Trump

2405
02:21:54,780 --> 02:21:58,200
likely won't be able to cash out
though to later this year to

2406
02:21:58,200 --> 02:22:01,950
raise money even faster. He's
now selling Bibles. All

2407
02:22:01,950 --> 02:22:02,550
Americans

2408
02:22:02,550 --> 02:22:07,320
need a Bible in their home and I
have many as my favorite book.

2409
02:22:07,350 --> 02:22:11,760
It's a lot of people's favorite
book. We must make America pray

2410
02:22:11,790 --> 02:22:12,960
again. So

2411
02:22:12,960 --> 02:22:19,140
called the USA Bible sells for
5999 It's huge. It's a great

2412
02:22:19,140 --> 02:22:23,310
John C Dvorak: other funny. You.
Actually one of the more

2413
02:22:23,310 --> 02:22:27,930
charming aspects of Trump is you
just cannot get him out of

2414
02:22:27,930 --> 02:22:30,990
huckster mode. No, he sees an
opportunity.

2415
02:22:31,020 --> 02:22:34,170
Adam Curry: I'm buying one. This
is fantastic. Are you kidding me

2416
02:22:34,170 --> 02:22:35,250
this almost everyday thing

2417
02:22:35,250 --> 02:22:36,900
John C Dvorak: that all these
huckster things he's done,

2418
02:22:36,900 --> 02:22:40,590
including the phony bills, the
$2 bill, all the rest of it, the

2419
02:22:40,590 --> 02:22:45,450
coins. It's all collectible.
It's ultimately collectible to

2420
02:22:45,450 --> 02:22:47,370
political memorabilia, people. I

2421
02:22:47,370 --> 02:22:50,580
Adam Curry: wish I could have
gotten those sneakers. They're

2422
02:22:50,580 --> 02:22:50,760
all

2423
02:22:50,760 --> 02:22:54,060
John C Dvorak: the sneakers.
Yeah. Oh, I know. A little high.

2424
02:22:54,150 --> 02:22:54,450
Oh,

2425
02:22:54,690 --> 02:22:57,570
Adam Curry: they only made 1000
I know guys who were really lay

2426
02:22:57,570 --> 02:23:00,930
down. 10 grand back. I need
these stickers. I need this. And

2427
02:23:00,930 --> 02:23:01,230
yeah, that

2428
02:23:01,230 --> 02:23:03,480
John C Dvorak: was another one.
Yeah, no, you can't. You know,

2429
02:23:03,480 --> 02:23:06,630
this. Everything from Trump
Steaks to Trump University, and

2430
02:23:06,630 --> 02:23:09,840
I always try to slam him for
this stuff. But this is a guy

2431
02:23:09,840 --> 02:23:14,130
who is the American. Yeah,
classic American guy who's just

2432
02:23:14,190 --> 02:23:16,980
trying to make money at it
anyway. He can. He'll do it.

2433
02:23:17,220 --> 02:23:19,830
nickel and dimed or billions
make

2434
02:23:19,830 --> 02:23:22,740
Adam Curry: America pray again,
is the best slogan.

2435
02:23:22,770 --> 02:23:26,790
Unbelievable. I love it. I want
that Bible. It's it's it's the

2436
02:23:26,790 --> 02:23:30,840
most popular book. It's a huge
book. It's a great book. I read.

2437
02:23:31,500 --> 02:23:34,230
I read this book all the time.
It's a great book. I

2438
02:23:34,230 --> 02:23:36,600
John C Dvorak: got them all over
my house. I got books and

2439
02:23:39,630 --> 02:23:42,180
Adam Curry: you can't you can't
not love it. That is you're

2440
02:23:42,180 --> 02:23:46,800
right. We are gaudy. That's who
we are as Americans face it.

2441
02:23:47,130 --> 02:23:50,100
We're not like commie
socialists. We love this stuff.

2442
02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:53,670
deep in our hearts. We love
this. Every I think also every

2443
02:23:53,670 --> 02:23:57,000
immigrant who comes into America
like is this a great country or

2444
02:23:57,000 --> 02:24:03,120
what? This guy is selling
Bibles? Come on. It's, it's

2445
02:24:03,150 --> 02:24:07,230
awesome. And of course, it flies
in the face of this little

2446
02:24:07,230 --> 02:24:08,520
report. Christian

2447
02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:12,300
Unknown: nationalism is a
cultural framework that

2448
02:24:12,330 --> 02:24:16,500
idealizes and advocates for the
close fusion of a very

2449
02:24:16,500 --> 02:24:20,010
particular expression of
Christianity with American civic

2450
02:24:20,010 --> 02:24:24,240
life, it does include those
Orthodox and traditional beliefs

2451
02:24:24,480 --> 02:24:28,230
of the historic Christian faith.
But what it also includes are a

2452
02:24:28,230 --> 02:24:32,100
number of cultural elements.
These cultural elements are a

2453
02:24:32,100 --> 02:24:37,770
desire for a traditionalist
social policies to be central to

2454
02:24:37,770 --> 02:24:41,850
the society. It also has a
desire for strict authoritarian

2455
02:24:41,850 --> 02:24:43,320
social control. We want

2456
02:24:43,320 --> 02:24:46,890
Trump to be the dictator to
change politics forever.

2457
02:24:46,920 --> 02:24:50,850
We also see another cultural
element is a desire for strict

2458
02:24:50,850 --> 02:24:52,260
ethno racial boundaries.

2459
02:24:52,290 --> 02:24:54,870
For example, an overwhelming
majority of Christian

2460
02:24:54,870 --> 02:24:57,660
nationalists believe in
replacement theory, and the

2461
02:24:57,660 --> 02:25:00,810
conspiracy that claims white
Americans and you Europeans are

2462
02:25:00,810 --> 02:25:04,230
being deliberately replaced by
non white immigrants. Many

2463
02:25:04,230 --> 02:25:07,620
Christian nationalists also see
black Americans as inherently

2464
02:25:07,620 --> 02:25:11,220
more violent, thus justifying
police brutality. Do you mean a

2465
02:25:11,220 --> 02:25:14,700
certain ethno religious group as
having the only rightful claim

2466
02:25:14,730 --> 02:25:18,030
to being American is known by
some as white Christian

2467
02:25:18,030 --> 02:25:21,990
nationalism, and many see it as
a threat to American democracy.

2468
02:25:22,380 --> 02:25:25,770
One of Trumps close allies, the
Center for renewing America

2469
02:25:25,770 --> 02:25:28,890
think tank has already forged
policy plans for the second

2470
02:25:28,890 --> 02:25:32,490
term, aligning with this far
right idea. With a statement on

2471
02:25:32,490 --> 02:25:36,270
the CRS website reading our
mission is to renew a consensus

2472
02:25:36,270 --> 02:25:38,400
of America as a nation under
God.

2473
02:25:38,610 --> 02:25:44,790
Adam Curry: Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh,
no. We can't have that. One

2474
02:25:44,790 --> 02:25:48,510
nation under God, indivisible.
No. What are they trying to do?

2475
02:25:49,560 --> 02:25:51,540
John C Dvorak: They're trying to
screw us horrible idea. I

2476
02:25:51,540 --> 02:25:55,680
Adam Curry: got Did you see this
boots on the ground from our our

2477
02:25:55,680 --> 02:25:59,220
fellow ham November 7 Delta
Romeo kilo? No, I

2478
02:25:59,220 --> 02:26:00,780
John C Dvorak: did not read it.
Yes, he's

2479
02:26:00,780 --> 02:26:03,810
Adam Curry: David. He is the
Arizona State communications

2480
02:26:03,810 --> 02:26:07,710
coordinator for the Convention
of States, which we talked

2481
02:26:07,710 --> 02:26:13,530
about. And because you were you
were very against this idea,

2482
02:26:13,950 --> 02:26:17,580
then I'm all for it. And I saw
it come through, but I had not

2483
02:26:17,580 --> 02:26:19,980
read it. I'll read it because
it's interesting. He said, I

2484
02:26:19,980 --> 02:26:22,170
want to weigh in about the
Convention of States. I have my

2485
02:26:22,170 --> 02:26:25,080
boots firmly planted on the
ground in this department, once

2486
02:26:25,080 --> 02:26:28,380
again, proving we are the best
podcast in the universe with US

2487
02:26:28,380 --> 02:26:28,980
producers.

2488
02:26:29,070 --> 02:26:32,460
John C Dvorak: It's It is
unbelievable. Considering the

2489
02:26:32,460 --> 02:26:36,000
lousy donations, we've been
getting recently, that we have

2490
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:37,290
this kind of access.

2491
02:26:38,010 --> 02:26:40,380
Adam Curry: Yeah, and we don't
have to hire anybody for this

2492
02:26:40,380 --> 02:26:44,670
kind of access. Todd. I've been
a volunteer for the Convention

2493
02:26:44,670 --> 02:26:48,510
of States for eight years. And
I'm currently the Arizona State

2494
02:26:48,510 --> 02:26:51,810
communications coordinator. I've
worked tirelessly to correct the

2495
02:26:51,810 --> 02:26:56,310
perception that, John, that the
Convention of States is seeking

2496
02:26:56,310 --> 02:26:59,520
to change the US Constitution,
nothing could be further from

2497
02:26:59,520 --> 02:27:02,670
the truth. As we want to simply
propose amendments to the

2498
02:27:02,670 --> 02:27:06,960
Constitution and stick to the
three subjects of term limits,

2499
02:27:07,140 --> 02:27:11,520
fiscal restraints, and curbing
federal overreach. We are

2500
02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:15,120
already past the halfway point
to call a convention as 19

2501
02:27:15,120 --> 02:27:18,720
states have already adopted
resolutions, a total of 34 is

2502
02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:22,200
needed to call a convention.
Although John thinks this is an

2503
02:27:22,350 --> 02:27:29,370
unorganized pipe dream. We are
actually I love our producers,

2504
02:27:29,580 --> 02:27:32,400
we are actually a well organized
group of regular people

2505
02:27:32,400 --> 02:27:35,790
volunteering part of our own
time, talent and treasure to

2506
02:27:35,790 --> 02:27:38,250
something that can positively
change the country in a

2507
02:27:38,250 --> 02:27:41,430
desperately needed way. It's
been a long road to get to this

2508
02:27:41,430 --> 02:27:44,580
point, especially since a lot of
people cling to the fear that

2509
02:27:44,580 --> 02:27:47,850
this will jeopardize the
Constitution. It will not. And

2510
02:27:47,880 --> 02:27:50,370
what they don't know is that
this country has a history of

2511
02:27:50,370 --> 02:27:53,790
state conventions. We still use
them today to negotiate water

2512
02:27:53,790 --> 02:27:56,910
rights. Miss characterizing the
movement as a constitutional

2513
02:27:56,910 --> 02:28:00,210
convention, when it's really an
amendment proposing convention,

2514
02:28:00,390 --> 02:28:04,890
is what the enemies of the
people No, that's me, are an

2515
02:28:04,890 --> 02:28:08,040
enemy of the people. John, I
know that neither of you are

2516
02:28:08,040 --> 02:28:12,300
enemies of the people. That was
your worst out, but felt it was

2517
02:28:12,300 --> 02:28:14,940
necessary to bring this to your
attention so that you guys could

2518
02:28:14,940 --> 02:28:17,910
continue to be informed at the
highest level of information. It

2519
02:28:17,910 --> 02:28:21,510
is also my duty to do so. Thank
you both for your own tireless

2520
02:28:21,510 --> 02:28:24,120
efforts for the cause of
liberty. I'll catch you in the

2521
02:28:24,120 --> 02:28:28,710
morning. 70 threes, November 7,
Delta Romeo kilo, there you go.

2522
02:28:28,740 --> 02:28:30,240
There you go. So now you know,

2523
02:28:30,480 --> 02:28:32,040
John C Dvorak: I appreciate that
kind of note.

2524
02:28:32,070 --> 02:28:34,620
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's a great
note and then had explained I'm

2525
02:28:34,620 --> 02:28:37,470
all for this Constitutional
Convention of States and we'll

2526
02:28:37,470 --> 02:28:39,270
John C Dvorak: see how it goes.
I

2527
02:28:39,270 --> 02:28:41,730
Adam Curry: got the halfway
there. Halfway there.

2528
02:28:42,990 --> 02:28:46,080
John C Dvorak: Oh, goodness, new
got cyber attack. last clip,

2529
02:28:46,110 --> 02:28:48,930
which is kind of interesting. I
also have a George Galloway

2530
02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:52,230
tirade in front of Parliament,
which I thought was decent.

2531
02:28:52,260 --> 02:28:52,770
Let's do that

2532
02:28:52,770 --> 02:28:55,770
Adam Curry: one first, and then
the cyber a clip. Okay, George

2533
02:28:55,770 --> 02:28:57,150
Galloway. Now he's the commie.

2534
02:28:58,410 --> 02:29:01,350
John C Dvorak: No, no, no,
you're taking another guy. Oh,

2535
02:29:01,350 --> 02:29:02,490
he's Galloway.

2536
02:29:02,820 --> 02:29:05,850
Adam Curry: Galloway just won
his district and he's in the

2537
02:29:06,570 --> 02:29:07,050
army.

2538
02:29:07,140 --> 02:29:10,200
John C Dvorak: Well, he's, well,
he could be but he's a commie in

2539
02:29:10,200 --> 02:29:12,660
the same way that that Claire's
a communist is

2540
02:29:12,660 --> 02:29:16,230
Adam Curry: a three minute,
three minute clip. What is a

2541
02:29:16,230 --> 02:29:17,250
three minute clip?

2542
02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:21,510
John C Dvorak: It looks minute
and B it looks

2543
02:29:21,540 --> 02:29:24,330
Adam Curry: it looks Miss clip
to let me say the truth

2544
02:29:24,330 --> 02:29:29,910
Unknown: is the our country is
in very real danger of falling

2545
02:29:29,940 --> 02:29:34,650
into the trap of Mussolini going
around the world threatening

2546
02:29:34,650 --> 02:29:39,330
people with Germany's army. Our
politicians go around the world

2547
02:29:39,330 --> 02:29:42,510
threatening people with
America's Army. But there's a

2548
02:29:42,510 --> 02:29:48,540
big change coming. Madam Deputy
Speaker. They don't like it on

2549
02:29:48,540 --> 02:29:52,740
either side of the aisle. But
President Trump is coming back

2550
02:29:53,220 --> 02:29:59,550
in November, and he doesn't much
fancy the NATO. He doesn't

2551
02:29:59,580 --> 02:30:03,930
intend And to send American
soldiers to die for CO pianist

2552
02:30:04,200 --> 02:30:09,930
or for the Zelinsky regime in
gear. He has no intention

2553
02:30:09,960 --> 02:30:14,910
whatsoever of continuing the war
in Ukraine and I heard the

2554
02:30:14,910 --> 02:30:19,920
member, senior member of the
House say, if America withdraws

2555
02:30:19,920 --> 02:30:24,540
from NATO, we're going to have
to increase our contribution to

2556
02:30:24,540 --> 02:30:32,610
5%, six, maybe 7% of GDP. These
people seriously imagine that

2557
02:30:32,610 --> 02:30:36,900
they'll continue NATO without
the United States of America.

2558
02:30:37,080 --> 02:30:40,830
What kind of NATO without would
really be Gilbert and Sullivan,

2559
02:30:41,070 --> 02:30:47,850
unless, of course, we are going
to devote not 50 billion of our

2560
02:30:47,850 --> 02:30:52,650
public treasure, but hundreds of
billions of our public treasure

2561
02:30:53,310 --> 02:30:57,630
on defense. Well, have any of
these people seen the state of

2562
02:30:57,630 --> 02:31:02,220
the public realm in Britain?
Have they seen the state of the

2563
02:31:02,220 --> 02:31:06,000
National Health Service? Have
they seen the state of our

2564
02:31:06,000 --> 02:31:11,910
streets or public buildings, or
public transport? Have they seen

2565
02:31:11,910 --> 02:31:16,560
the wage packets being earned in
this country? Have they seen

2566
02:31:16,560 --> 02:31:21,540
pensioner poverty? Have they
seen your poverty in action?

2567
02:31:21,960 --> 02:31:26,340
Have they met people that have
to choose between eating and

2568
02:31:26,340 --> 02:31:31,350
eating? And these fools want to
spend not 50 billion, but

2569
02:31:31,350 --> 02:31:36,060
hundreds of billions on weapons
of war, that we're going to

2570
02:31:36,060 --> 02:31:41,400
fight with an army that could
fit into Villa Park 70,000

2571
02:31:41,520 --> 02:31:48,840
soldiers can fit into a single
football stadium. And

2572
02:31:50,460 --> 02:31:53,070
Adam Curry: he was also on the
Big Brother, I think, wasn't it?

2573
02:31:53,850 --> 02:31:54,660
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Yeah, I

2574
02:31:54,660 --> 02:31:56,700
Adam Curry: think it was, I
think it was on the Big Brother

2575
02:31:56,700 --> 02:31:57,000
show.

2576
02:31:59,400 --> 02:32:01,980
John C Dvorak: But it was that
that was a decent, right? I have

2577
02:32:02,610 --> 02:32:04,830
I have their day. You know,
their predict everyone's getting

2578
02:32:04,830 --> 02:32:08,010
ready for Trump. It's like
they're getting ready for Trump.

2579
02:32:08,580 --> 02:32:11,490
Trump. I don't see how he's not
going to get in. I mean, now

2580
02:32:11,490 --> 02:32:14,100
you're gonna let Biden in again.
Oh, nervous woman.

2581
02:32:14,250 --> 02:32:19,590
Adam Curry: I have boots on the
ground from uza where that's our

2582
02:32:19,590 --> 02:32:24,660
producers name uza WUSA regular
troops on the ground from France

2583
02:32:24,660 --> 02:32:28,980
Germany and Poland have arrived
by rail and air to chair Cassie.

2584
02:32:29,130 --> 02:32:32,820
South of key of substantial
force. No numbers have been

2585
02:32:32,820 --> 02:32:36,090
leaked yet. They're being housed
in schools. For all practical

2586
02:32:36,120 --> 02:32:40,680
practical purposes. This is a
NATO force. Let the games begin.

2587
02:32:40,980 --> 02:32:44,190
Mr. King's House business cards
will be in great demand whoever

2588
02:32:44,190 --> 02:32:51,720
that is. So yeah, so we've got
NATO troops on the ground. And

2589
02:32:51,720 --> 02:32:57,330
everyone's talking conscription
everywhere going to war. Wow, I

2590
02:32:57,330 --> 02:33:01,440
gotta get Christina out of
there. I would say I gotta get

2591
02:33:01,440 --> 02:33:02,520
her out of there. This is

2592
02:33:02,550 --> 02:33:04,770
John C Dvorak: she's not gonna
get conscripted. Well,

2593
02:33:04,830 --> 02:33:08,670
Adam Curry: not yet. But you
know, they'll have look they

2594
02:33:08,670 --> 02:33:13,230
took young girls are now
fighting for Ukraine young

2595
02:33:13,230 --> 02:33:17,340
Ukrainian girls. Yes, well,
we're

2596
02:33:17,340 --> 02:33:18,840
John C Dvorak: gonna do
everything we can to kill

2597
02:33:18,840 --> 02:33:21,150
everyone who's Ukrainian. That's
what we're doing now.

2598
02:33:21,180 --> 02:33:22,440
Adam Curry: Yeah, so we can move
in.

2599
02:33:23,640 --> 02:33:25,530
John C Dvorak: All right,
sidebar. Gil can move and we're

2600
02:33:25,530 --> 02:33:26,130
not moving

2601
02:33:26,160 --> 02:33:28,440
Adam Curry: cargo is already
know we need Cargill workers.

2602
02:33:28,470 --> 02:33:31,770
That's true. Cargill is already
executives. Exactly. And we need

2603
02:33:31,770 --> 02:33:35,340
to steal that Russian money. So
we bolster our SWIFT system.

2604
02:33:37,080 --> 02:33:40,710
Good idea. All right, cyber
attack. Last news. And before we

2605
02:33:40,710 --> 02:33:42,300
take our break here, Homeland
Security

2606
02:33:42,300 --> 02:33:44,400
Unknown: will soon be requiring
companies working in critical

2607
02:33:44,400 --> 02:33:47,850
infrastructure to report cyber
attacks to the government in a

2608
02:33:47,850 --> 02:33:51,270
timely manner. Otherwise, the
company could face fines more

2609
02:33:51,270 --> 02:33:52,500
from employers, Jenna McLaughlin

2610
02:33:52,530 --> 02:33:55,860
2022, Congress passed a law that
would require owners and

2611
02:33:55,860 --> 02:33:58,860
operators of us critical
infrastructure to report cyber

2612
02:33:58,860 --> 02:34:01,650
incidents to the Department of
Homeland Security cybersecurity

2613
02:34:01,650 --> 02:34:05,070
agency Sissa. That includes
everything from the power grid

2614
02:34:05,070 --> 02:34:09,030
to oil and gas pipelines. Now,
Cisco is releasing an initial

2615
02:34:09,030 --> 02:34:11,670
version of those specific rules
or a Notice of Proposed

2616
02:34:11,670 --> 02:34:15,030
Rulemaking. Companies will have
72 hours to share cyber

2617
02:34:15,030 --> 02:34:18,120
incidents and 24 hours after
making a ransom payment to a

2618
02:34:18,120 --> 02:34:21,870
cyber criminal group, since the
expects over 300,000

2619
02:34:21,870 --> 02:34:24,960
organizations will be
accountable to the new rules. If

2620
02:34:24,960 --> 02:34:27,780
companies fail to comply, they
could be subpoenaed or referred

2621
02:34:27,780 --> 02:34:30,750
to the Justice Department for
potential civil action. The

2622
02:34:30,750 --> 02:34:33,300
government believes these rules
are vital during a time of

2623
02:34:33,300 --> 02:34:36,720
rampant cyber attacks against US
companies. Yeah.

2624
02:34:37,230 --> 02:34:40,140
John C Dvorak: So the government
got sick of waiting to have this

2625
02:34:40,320 --> 02:34:44,700
government corporate, you know,
agreement that was going on

2626
02:34:44,730 --> 02:34:47,640
during the Obama administration.
We discussed it all the time.

2627
02:34:48,030 --> 02:34:51,930
And then we can keep with you
maybe this is proprietary, you

2628
02:34:51,930 --> 02:34:54,720
know, unless you know everything
we're up to. And now they said

2629
02:34:54,720 --> 02:34:58,260
okay, we waited too long enough.
We're just gonna pass a law rule

2630
02:34:58,260 --> 02:35:00,360
and you're gonna have to do it
or you're gonna get fined Big

2631
02:35:00,360 --> 02:35:04,290
time after 72 hours if you don't
join, you know as Sisa this

2632
02:35:04,560 --> 02:35:07,620
bullcrap operations, that's not
going to do anything anyway.

2633
02:35:08,880 --> 02:35:10,890
This is this is a horrible.

2634
02:35:11,790 --> 02:35:14,430
Adam Curry: Actually I have two
more quick things to discuss

2635
02:35:14,430 --> 02:35:21,060
before we break. The Have you
heard this outfit? All sides.com

2636
02:35:22,320 --> 02:35:26,250
Sounds like a rainbow news
outfit to me. But they had they

2637
02:35:26,250 --> 02:35:32,760
declare now based upon Gallup
polling that LGBTQ plus voters

2638
02:35:32,760 --> 02:35:38,400
will actually decide the 2024
presidential election. Because

2639
02:35:38,400 --> 02:35:42,780
over the past decade, voters
identifying as LGBTQ plus have

2640
02:35:42,780 --> 02:35:48,030
more than doubled. What's more,
this group is growing. The LGBTQ

2641
02:35:48,030 --> 02:35:51,480
plus demographic is now a larger
voting bloc than the suburban

2642
02:35:51,480 --> 02:35:54,630
white mothers that pundits love
to discuss on election night.

2643
02:35:55,440 --> 02:36:00,690
Why Wow, this is so you know,
what's happening is kids are

2644
02:36:00,690 --> 02:36:06,300
afraid not to say oh, yeah, I'm
queer, right? We're, they're

2645
02:36:06,300 --> 02:36:10,260
afraid to say they're straight.
But if you really think the

2646
02:36:10,260 --> 02:36:12,930
Williams Institute recently
noted this increase as well

2647
02:36:12,930 --> 02:36:18,090
reporting that among younger
Americans 14.9% in the 18 to 24

2648
02:36:18,210 --> 02:36:26,160
and 8.8% in the 25 to 34 cohorts
identify as LGBTQ plus. And what

2649
02:36:26,160 --> 02:36:31,560
does that mean? Well, now we go
to Sarah, the Gentile, who says

2650
02:36:31,560 --> 02:36:33,510
Hi, Adam and John, I'm a
professor at a private

2651
02:36:33,510 --> 02:36:38,100
university in the south Hello,
once again, best producers in

2652
02:36:38,100 --> 02:36:43,650
the universe. I wonder she's a
clinical professor, professor at

2653
02:36:43,650 --> 02:36:46,620
a private university in the
south and adjunct at a big 10

2654
02:36:46,620 --> 02:36:50,250
University in the Midwest. Every
spring in my big 10 appointment,

2655
02:36:50,250 --> 02:36:54,690
all faculty have to complete the
title 10 And Title Nine

2656
02:36:54,690 --> 02:36:58,860
training. These are usually 45
minute training modules are

2657
02:36:58,860 --> 02:37:02,160
mandated reporting assault on
campus and how we are to help

2658
02:37:02,220 --> 02:37:06,240
students experiencing students
experiencing those situations

2659
02:37:06,240 --> 02:37:09,480
etc. I've completed scores of
these over the years and they've

2660
02:37:09,480 --> 02:37:13,110
always been the same. The same
Narrator same situation, same

2661
02:37:13,110 --> 02:37:16,830
videos this year, or this year,
however, there's a notable

2662
02:37:16,830 --> 02:37:21,510
difference that gays are gone.
Take, for example, this

2663
02:37:21,510 --> 02:37:25,740
statistic shared in one of the
modules quote 13% of students

2664
02:37:25,740 --> 02:37:29,610
reported non consensual sexual
contact by physical force or

2665
02:37:29,610 --> 02:37:33,570
inability to consent rates were
significantly higher for women

2666
02:37:33,570 --> 02:37:40,080
and the T GQN. Students. This is
a new acronym TGQ N, which

2667
02:37:40,080 --> 02:37:44,280
stands for transgender women
transgender men, nine bit non

2668
02:37:44,280 --> 02:37:47,880
binary gender queer, gender
questioning or gender not

2669
02:37:47,880 --> 02:37:53,670
listed. You guys called it
months ago, the gays are gone.

2670
02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:57,690
There was no reference to
lesbians or gays. They have been

2671
02:37:57,690 --> 02:38:01,140
completely erased, not one
mentioned in this entire

2672
02:38:01,140 --> 02:38:04,620
training. This was not the case
last spring when I had to take

2673
02:38:04,620 --> 02:38:07,680
the same training. Whatever
starts in the university will

2674
02:38:07,710 --> 02:38:12,810
always trickle down and out. So
expect to see T GQN. Soon

2675
02:38:12,810 --> 02:38:13,410
enough.

2676
02:38:14,730 --> 02:38:17,100
John C Dvorak: We'll keep an eye
out for it. We had that clip a

2677
02:38:17,100 --> 02:38:22,860
couple of shows ago with the
girl who is bitching lesbian tic

2678
02:38:22,860 --> 02:38:25,590
tock or who is bitching about
what's going on? And she this

2679
02:38:25,590 --> 02:38:27,660
basically mirrors what she let

2680
02:38:27,660 --> 02:38:31,260
Adam Curry: me tell you, the gay
guys I know are there. They're

2681
02:38:31,260 --> 02:38:35,580
angry about this stuff. They are
pissed off. They are like this

2682
02:38:35,580 --> 02:38:41,490
is insane. And you know what?
The gays can save us, the gays,

2683
02:38:41,520 --> 02:38:45,930
the gays will save us? Yes, they
will. And in a rare moment of

2684
02:38:45,930 --> 02:38:49,500
camaraderie the gays and the
lesbians will actually join

2685
02:38:49,500 --> 02:38:54,480
together. Which is not true that
would be rare. But they've got

2686
02:38:54,480 --> 02:38:58,650
to they've got to save
themselves. Unbelievable. And

2687
02:38:58,650 --> 02:39:01,320
with that happy news, I'd like
to thank you for your courage

2688
02:39:01,320 --> 02:39:03,600
say in the morning to you the
man who put the sea in the

2689
02:39:03,600 --> 02:39:05,940
Convention of States ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend

2690
02:39:05,940 --> 02:39:07,770
on the other end the one and
only Mr. John

2691
02:39:10,740 --> 02:39:12,840
John C Dvorak: Murray you Mr.
Adam curry in the morning ships

2692
02:39:12,840 --> 02:39:16,230
and sea boots on the ground feet
in the air subs in the water and

2693
02:39:16,230 --> 02:39:18,120
the Danes and the Knights out
there and

2694
02:39:18,120 --> 02:39:20,670
Adam Curry: all the gays in the
morning to you Hello, trolls.

2695
02:39:20,670 --> 02:39:27,270
Hold on Hold up. All right,
we've gone up a little bit here

2696
02:39:27,270 --> 02:39:32,520
we had 1552 and the last troll
count we did on a Thursday 1576

2697
02:39:32,850 --> 02:39:36,960
Is your troll counter today. And
we are very happy to have our

2698
02:39:36,960 --> 02:39:41,340
trolls there in the troll room
at troll room.io or, or you can

2699
02:39:41,340 --> 02:39:46,320
join them by going to podcast
apps.com and getting a modern

2700
02:39:46,320 --> 02:39:48,870
podcast app. Now when I tweet,
we got a new thing called

2701
02:39:48,870 --> 02:39:52,590
episodes.fm. So when I tweet out
the link to the show and you

2702
02:39:52,590 --> 02:39:56,520
click on that link, it brings up
a list of 30 apps. And right

2703
02:39:56,520 --> 02:40:01,320
there you can choose which app
you want to use Uh, yeah, this

2704
02:40:01,320 --> 02:40:04,260
is another podcasting 2.0
innovation. They just keep on

2705
02:40:04,260 --> 02:40:08,100
coming. Unbelievable. Well, it
is it is because these are

2706
02:40:08,100 --> 02:40:11,910
people who care about freedom of
speech, and make sure that

2707
02:40:11,910 --> 02:40:16,650
you're not stifled by Silicon
Valley. But there no will be.

2708
02:40:17,250 --> 02:40:20,280
Well, we won't be. There's no
way they can't. We are

2709
02:40:20,280 --> 02:40:23,730
unstoppable. Now, of course,
we're poor, but we're

2710
02:40:23,730 --> 02:40:27,660
unstoppable. And we're very
proud of it. Also, you get

2711
02:40:27,660 --> 02:40:31,980
updated within 90 seconds of a
podcast posting its new episode,

2712
02:40:31,980 --> 02:40:35,190
certainly this one and other
smart podcasts. But there's a

2713
02:40:35,190 --> 02:40:38,190
hundreds of 1000s of them who
are using the new system, all

2714
02:40:38,190 --> 02:40:42,660
part of podcasting. 2.0 We are a
value for value podcast, which

2715
02:40:44,580 --> 02:40:47,880
we started probably we get is
going to be is going to be 17

2716
02:40:47,880 --> 02:40:49,350
years in October. Yeah.

2717
02:40:49,650 --> 02:40:52,200
John C Dvorak: Any minute. Wow.
That's unbelievable.

2718
02:40:53,040 --> 02:40:54,630
Adam Curry: Hey, it isn't your
birthday soon to

2719
02:40:55,170 --> 02:40:58,350
John C Dvorak: my birthday is
coming up on April 5. We'll be

2720
02:40:58,350 --> 02:41:00,570
looking forward to that. And
it'll be the day after the

2721
02:41:00,570 --> 02:41:01,560
wedding. Yeah,

2722
02:41:01,590 --> 02:41:03,750
Adam Curry: we're taking that
with April 4, which is a

2723
02:41:03,750 --> 02:41:06,930
Thursday. Correct. It's a
Thursday by Washington married

2724
02:41:06,930 --> 02:41:08,640
on Thursday, not getting married
in the church.

2725
02:41:09,930 --> 02:41:11,490
John C Dvorak: They're getting
married. They're getting

2726
02:41:11,610 --> 02:41:15,240
independent. Think of another
Universal Life Church marriage,

2727
02:41:15,240 --> 02:41:17,130
as far as I can tell. So

2728
02:41:17,550 --> 02:41:21,180
Adam Curry: universal? Yeah, I
know. I'm a minister. I'm a

2729
02:41:21,180 --> 02:41:23,760
minister, Minister, Minister of
the universal and I'm a Doctor

2730
02:41:23,760 --> 02:41:27,180
of Divinity. And well, you're
this boss, above boss. Always,

2731
02:41:27,240 --> 02:41:27,780
always.

2732
02:41:27,810 --> 02:41:30,300
John C Dvorak: So I do want to
mention that when we get to the

2733
02:41:30,300 --> 02:41:33,450
donation segment, when I
mentioned in advance, do not

2734
02:41:33,450 --> 02:41:36,600
read the first name on there and
give it to me because that name

2735
02:41:36,600 --> 02:41:39,060
should be anonymous, but it's
listed on there. That would be a

2736
02:41:39,060 --> 02:41:40,380
bad thing to say. We

2737
02:41:40,380 --> 02:41:43,560
Adam Curry: don't want to have
anything bad happen here. So I

2738
02:41:43,560 --> 02:41:44,940
will not I will not pass

2739
02:41:44,940 --> 02:41:47,070
John C Dvorak: it to me. And
I'll read from his note. I'll

2740
02:41:47,070 --> 02:41:49,980
Adam Curry: pass it to you. Let
me just see. The very first one.

2741
02:41:50,010 --> 02:41:51,210
Not not Yeah, the very

2742
02:41:51,210 --> 02:41:53,340
John C Dvorak: first one, that
one right at the top. Okay, I

2743
02:41:53,340 --> 02:41:54,750
want this got no note.

2744
02:41:54,870 --> 02:41:57,240
Adam Curry: Yeah, I got it. I
will not mention it at all.

2745
02:41:57,960 --> 02:42:03,030
Blank it out. So value for value
means that we are not part of

2746
02:42:03,030 --> 02:42:07,110
the podcast industrial complex,
which is not doing so well.

2747
02:42:07,110 --> 02:42:11,130
Actually. There have been
moments it has.

2748
02:42:11,130 --> 02:42:13,590
John C Dvorak: It's not today,
but it has his moments.

2749
02:42:13,650 --> 02:42:16,470
Adam Curry: Well, and Bill Maher
is about to make the biggest

2750
02:42:16,470 --> 02:42:22,140
mistake of his life. No, yes. He
started a podcast network. Oh,

2751
02:42:22,140 --> 02:42:22,890
plea?

2752
02:42:22,890 --> 02:42:25,230
John C Dvorak: Yes. Yeah, there
goes money. That's where I guess

2753
02:42:25,230 --> 02:42:27,870
he's making too much money. So
throw it away. Yep.

2754
02:42:27,870 --> 02:42:30,690
Adam Curry: So it's, it's going
to be the guest

2755
02:42:30,720 --> 02:42:33,780
John C Dvorak: network? Yes. If
he had never heard of such a

2756
02:42:33,780 --> 02:42:34,830
thing, the club

2757
02:42:34,830 --> 02:42:40,530
Adam Curry: random studios
network. And he will be hosting

2758
02:42:40,560 --> 02:42:44,340
as he seek it seeks to host
podcasts built on an idea of

2759
02:42:44,460 --> 02:42:50,040
freedom of expression. Hmm.
Okay. And he starting with that

2760
02:42:50,070 --> 02:42:58,290
ESPN lady. He's hired her to
Sage Steele. She was for ESPN

2761
02:42:58,290 --> 02:43:02,100
Sports Center. The day after
there was some free speech

2762
02:43:02,100 --> 02:43:06,630
lawsuits. I don't remember what
that was about. But anyway, we

2763
02:43:06,630 --> 02:43:09,060
would be perfect for that
network if we thought they would

2764
02:43:09,060 --> 02:43:13,770
work. But that they don't, then
I'll tell you why. Because you

2765
02:43:13,770 --> 02:43:15,990
get into the network. And it was
like, Oh, it's great. You know,

2766
02:43:15,990 --> 02:43:18,690
you're gonna get publicity and
be a part of Bill Maher system.

2767
02:43:18,720 --> 02:43:21,990
Oh, great. Great, great. And
then all the advertising goes to

2768
02:43:21,990 --> 02:43:26,520
Bill Maher show. Or maybe one
other you know, one other one.

2769
02:43:26,970 --> 02:43:27,150
This

2770
02:43:27,150 --> 02:43:29,100
John C Dvorak: show gets
popular. Yeah, this happens.

2771
02:43:29,280 --> 02:43:32,220
This happened. We've witnesses
both witness why witnesses with

2772
02:43:32,220 --> 02:43:36,000
your network. You're the one
that was doing a network. Even

2773
02:43:36,000 --> 02:43:39,990
though you now decry it. Yes. I
also see it on Leo's network.

2774
02:43:40,020 --> 02:43:42,600
And these are networks I decry.
Yours was a little more

2775
02:43:42,600 --> 02:43:43,260
aggressive to

2776
02:43:43,590 --> 02:43:46,440
Adam Curry: decry it because we
raised $65 million, and nobody

2777
02:43:46,440 --> 02:43:48,360
made any money. Hello. And

2778
02:43:48,360 --> 02:43:51,120
John C Dvorak: all the way the
kicker is and you probably

2779
02:43:51,150 --> 02:43:56,160
wouldn't say this as easy as I
can. Every buddy complained all

2780
02:43:56,160 --> 02:43:59,820
the time now GAC am I'm not
making more money, how come

2781
02:43:59,820 --> 02:44:02,940
they're emphasizing this and not
that every one of you had all

2782
02:44:02,940 --> 02:44:06,870
these famous podcasters working
there, and they all complained

2783
02:44:06,990 --> 02:44:10,590
and they didn't complain a
little they complained all the

2784
02:44:10,590 --> 02:44:14,610
time. Yeah, and that's what Bill
Maher is gonna get down. That's

2785
02:44:14,610 --> 02:44:18,600
why we had aggravating
complaints. That's why you

2786
02:44:18,600 --> 02:44:21,990
Adam Curry: have a podcast
relations manager the worst job

2787
02:44:21,990 --> 02:44:27,420
in the company. When Richard was
his name Richard forgot the end

2788
02:44:27,420 --> 02:44:30,510
for a while that we had Aaron
Aaron was running it and he gave

2789
02:44:30,510 --> 02:44:34,290
up the just like, I gotta leave
this job. You couldn't pay

2790
02:44:34,290 --> 02:44:37,710
anybody enough to deal with the
aggravation and the crying that

2791
02:44:37,710 --> 02:44:41,880
goes on, which is why these
podcasts and eventually they

2792
02:44:41,910 --> 02:44:45,330
they unionize and then your to
completely screw

2793
02:44:45,330 --> 02:44:48,510
John C Dvorak: Oh, then your
host shuttered shut it shut it

2794
02:44:48,510 --> 02:44:50,010
down shutter, the ringer,

2795
02:44:50,100 --> 02:44:54,240
Adam Curry: they just unionized.
The rager it's all over. It

2796
02:44:54,240 --> 02:44:57,480
doesn't work. You cannot
monetize the network. Just take

2797
02:44:57,480 --> 02:45:01,980
it from me. Spotify spent $2
billion so Oh, we didn't get any

2798
02:45:01,980 --> 02:45:04,950
of that goodness. Of course. I
mean, we should have honestly we

2799
02:45:04,950 --> 02:45:08,040
somebody should have at least
hired us for a couple mil and

2800
02:45:08,040 --> 02:45:11,880
then fired us. But no, no. You
know why? Because we speak

2801
02:45:11,880 --> 02:45:16,380
truth. Truth to Power. That's
why are we speaking truth to

2802
02:45:16,380 --> 02:45:16,950
power? Joe?

2803
02:45:18,210 --> 02:45:19,830
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
much power is listening to the

2804
02:45:19,830 --> 02:45:22,050
show, but we're speaking to
somebody.

2805
02:45:23,970 --> 02:45:25,800
Adam Curry: somebody's out
there. Oh, they're speaking

2806
02:45:25,800 --> 02:45:29,400
truth to me. All right. So
instead, we opted for the value

2807
02:45:29,400 --> 02:45:32,100
for value model, which is
actually it's pretty good. If

2808
02:45:32,100 --> 02:45:37,470
you can keep your costs low. IE,
we don't have Neumann mics. Now.

2809
02:45:37,500 --> 02:45:43,710
We run the whole thing on a $500
rode rode mixer. Mic and that

2810
02:45:43,710 --> 02:45:46,350
little b. What's that? Beelink
computer.

2811
02:45:47,730 --> 02:45:52,020
John C Dvorak: I didn't know I
use a NOC. We run a we run this

2812
02:45:52,020 --> 02:45:53,730
thing on the Intel NIC an old

2813
02:45:53,730 --> 02:45:56,940
Adam Curry: one. We run this on
a Beelink and NOC and a $500.

2814
02:45:56,940 --> 02:45:58,350
Road mixer. Okay.

2815
02:45:58,350 --> 02:46:00,540
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's a
scarlet.

2816
02:46:02,370 --> 02:46:04,830
Adam Curry: That's where we run
this thing on and I got a couple

2817
02:46:04,860 --> 02:46:08,520
panels on the wall. All right.
That's how we run it. And

2818
02:46:08,520 --> 02:46:11,790
luckily, we have people who
provide value back to us when

2819
02:46:11,790 --> 02:46:14,700
they say you know, I got some
value from the show. I laughed.

2820
02:46:14,700 --> 02:46:18,180
I cried. I got mad. I learned
something I got it. I learned

2821
02:46:18,180 --> 02:46:20,550
something about the markets. I
could make some money there.

2822
02:46:21,120 --> 02:46:27,540
Save my life. Hello COVID Lots
of stuff because you back time,

2823
02:46:27,540 --> 02:46:31,350
talent or treasure? All three of
them are valid. So we have

2824
02:46:31,350 --> 02:46:34,200
people running servers people do
you know what people doing art

2825
02:46:34,200 --> 02:46:37,110
for us? Let's talk about that
for a second. We have artists

2826
02:46:37,110 --> 02:46:42,390
who continuously love to make
artwork. While we're doing the

2827
02:46:42,390 --> 02:46:47,280
show live this it really is one
of the coolest things. And

2828
02:46:47,280 --> 02:46:49,650
actually I was on Oh, you're
gonna get asked I was on the

2829
02:46:49,650 --> 02:46:53,700
union of the unwanted you have
to go on the show. Have you

2830
02:46:53,700 --> 02:46:54,930
heard of this podcast but

2831
02:46:54,930 --> 02:46:57,450
John C Dvorak: it's a union of
the my unwanted but you unwanted

2832
02:46:57,480 --> 02:46:58,740
who's unwanted? Well, that's

2833
02:46:58,740 --> 02:47:00,840
Adam Curry: why I always was
against this show. And I don't

2834
02:47:00,840 --> 02:47:03,390
want to I'm not unwanted. I'm
very wanted. I'm loved.

2835
02:47:03,840 --> 02:47:05,580
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we want you
however

2836
02:47:05,610 --> 02:47:09,210
Adam Curry: this is. This is an
essence. It's a zoom call with

2837
02:47:09,210 --> 02:47:13,950
like 12 or 13 people. And they
all and they all have podcasts,

2838
02:47:13,980 --> 02:47:17,370
Sam Tripoli, they remember the
guy who I called the the

2839
02:47:17,370 --> 02:47:21,300
sidekick. And then people like,
I'm not donating because yeah, I

2840
02:47:21,300 --> 02:47:25,230
got the same name of the
podcasters. By the way, Sam and

2841
02:47:25,230 --> 02:47:29,460
Adam. were texting all the time.
Now. We're buds. You guys should

2842
02:47:29,460 --> 02:47:32,340
be buds. Graham was on there
from Green

2843
02:47:33,090 --> 02:47:36,510
John C Dvorak: is angling for my
job. Let's face it. Who? Sam?

2844
02:47:36,930 --> 02:47:38,370
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's

2845
02:47:38,370 --> 02:47:41,940
Adam Curry: an interesting idea.
I like that. I like that. Oh.

2846
02:47:44,520 --> 02:47:48,660
John, I said on the show, I said
without John or without Adam.

2847
02:47:48,660 --> 02:47:51,750
There is no agenda. It's just
there is no one. There's no no

2848
02:47:52,260 --> 02:47:56,160
one. I know that this. Without
either one of us. The show

2849
02:47:56,160 --> 02:47:58,860
doesn't work. It would just have
to end so Don't die on me yet.

2850
02:47:58,860 --> 02:48:03,030
Oh, man. And I'll do the same.
Because there's a lot of a lot

2851
02:48:03,030 --> 02:48:06,960
of show left in us until 2028
Then, then we definitely have to

2852
02:48:06,960 --> 02:48:07,890
anyway, we

2853
02:48:07,890 --> 02:48:10,470
John C Dvorak: can go off our
merry ways. And our publishing

2854
02:48:10,470 --> 02:48:13,110
company running. Well by then we
have a Kindle.

2855
02:48:15,840 --> 02:48:20,160
Adam Curry: I mean, what else?
What more do you need? I don't

2856
02:48:20,160 --> 02:48:22,470
know what I'm gonna do. But
yeah, here we go. What should I

2857
02:48:22,470 --> 02:48:22,830
do

2858
02:48:22,830 --> 02:48:24,660
John C Dvorak: here and you get
plenty ideas.

2859
02:48:25,410 --> 02:48:27,570
Adam Curry: But none of them
make money. That's the problem.

2860
02:48:28,050 --> 02:48:31,350
Podcasting is demonetised
podcasting. 2.0 is great, but

2861
02:48:31,350 --> 02:48:36,030
it's zero money. It's just it's
for legacy for the children.

2862
02:48:36,030 --> 02:48:39,780
That's the only reason I do it.
Anyway. These guys, all of them

2863
02:48:39,780 --> 02:48:43,020
have their own podcast like the
Liberty lockdown. I mean, it's

2864
02:48:43,020 --> 02:48:48,930
all great podcast. And they all
listen to no agenda. They love

2865
02:48:48,930 --> 02:48:52,800
us. They love you, and they want
to have you on the show. And I

2866
02:48:52,800 --> 02:48:56,400
would I would recommend you do
it. I could do that show. Sure.

2867
02:48:56,430 --> 02:49:00,870
I think you'll really enjoy it.
I had a good time. I wasn't sure

2868
02:49:00,870 --> 02:49:04,680
what to expect and had a good
time. Anyway, back to a value

2869
02:49:04,680 --> 02:49:08,640
for value we want. Many of them
use value for value. They love

2870
02:49:08,640 --> 02:49:12,120
it. Yeah, well, they should
guess. And then they also

2871
02:49:12,120 --> 02:49:14,460
they're all poor. But they love

2872
02:49:14,460 --> 02:49:17,250
John C Dvorak: that. Well, it's
because sometimes the email goes

2873
02:49:17,250 --> 02:49:17,820
astray.

2874
02:49:19,230 --> 02:49:21,330
Adam Curry: People have to say
the email was really important.

2875
02:49:21,330 --> 02:49:24,180
There's so many podcasts and
things you can pay attention to.

2876
02:49:24,180 --> 02:49:27,900
I mean, when when did he is in
your algo. Sometimes people

2877
02:49:27,900 --> 02:49:30,630
forget we have a podcast and we
need to be supported and then

2878
02:49:30,630 --> 02:49:35,100
when the algos because that's
what it is. Just oh he used the

2879
02:49:35,100 --> 02:49:40,380
word killing. Well throw that to
junk. Get rid of that and

2880
02:49:40,380 --> 02:49:41,730
probably went to promotions
which

2881
02:49:41,730 --> 02:49:43,980
John C Dvorak: is even funner
funny episode went to promotions

2882
02:49:43,980 --> 02:49:44,790
that shouldn't have.

2883
02:49:45,810 --> 02:49:48,690
Adam Curry: We want to thank
Darren, who provides a lot of

2884
02:49:48,690 --> 02:49:52,170
our standby this but a lot of
time and talent that Darren

2885
02:49:52,200 --> 02:49:55,170
provides to the show. He does
the rock world pre show before

2886
02:49:55,170 --> 02:49:58,830
every single Thursday in
Sunday's broadcast. And prize

2887
02:49:58,830 --> 02:50:00,630
John C Dvorak: you didn't say
that the Korean Devorah in the

2888
02:50:00,630 --> 02:50:02,190
corner there was too small.

2889
02:50:03,120 --> 02:50:05,940
Adam Curry: It was we talked
about this for quite a while. We

2890
02:50:05,940 --> 02:50:06,120
didn't

2891
02:50:06,120 --> 02:50:08,550
John C Dvorak: talk about that
you never mentioned it. Okay,

2892
02:50:08,670 --> 02:50:11,220
you give Darren a lot of leeway.

2893
02:50:11,910 --> 02:50:15,690
Adam Curry: These Darren O'Neal
you know, his music tastes sucks

2894
02:50:15,690 --> 02:50:21,660
but Darren is a good guy. Now
okay, so we chose Darren ISIS K

2895
02:50:22,470 --> 02:50:24,600
with the only thing I didn't
like about it was the hand

2896
02:50:24,600 --> 02:50:25,110
grenade I

2897
02:50:25,110 --> 02:50:27,000
John C Dvorak: was more
disturbing like I didn't mind

2898
02:50:27,000 --> 02:50:29,550
the hand grenade at all is ISIS
k which is like a

2899
02:50:29,550 --> 02:50:33,330
Adam Curry: Special K packaging
classic. No agenda, spoof art.

2900
02:50:33,330 --> 02:50:38,430
We love those 33% More psyops
works for me and then the hand

2901
02:50:38,430 --> 02:50:44,400
grenade Now, other things that
we looked at. I really, I really

2902
02:50:44,400 --> 02:50:47,070
liked Scarah mangas meat food.

2903
02:50:47,310 --> 02:50:49,920
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I liked it
too. But it was again it was it

2904
02:50:49,920 --> 02:50:51,540
was time it was way too small.
It

2905
02:50:51,540 --> 02:50:53,820
Adam Curry: was too small and
then as you imbuing into it you

2906
02:50:53,820 --> 02:50:57,210
see like some Chinese some Asian
cook Yeah, but it turned out

2907
02:50:57,210 --> 02:50:58,350
John C Dvorak: to be racist.
Yeah, it

2908
02:50:58,350 --> 02:51:02,580
Adam Curry: says really good. We
were okay with the racism

2909
02:51:02,580 --> 02:51:05,340
actually, but you couldn't read
it from afar and was newcomer

2910
02:51:05,340 --> 02:51:05,670
food

2911
02:51:05,730 --> 02:51:08,490
John C Dvorak: well, we weren't
that good with it. We always

2912
02:51:08,490 --> 02:51:15,090
picked it no he said no one had
gone with Rarey good sunshine

2913
02:51:15,090 --> 02:51:19,020
laughing Chinese guy I'm sorry
Should I have put it properly a

2914
02:51:19,020 --> 02:51:23,970
laughing Chinaman still gonna
work I'm still laughing when I

2915
02:51:23,970 --> 02:51:27,030
see it and like it was good.
It's very funny to look at

2916
02:51:27,060 --> 02:51:32,400
Adam Curry: we also we looked at
networks Toshiba laptop, which

2917
02:51:32,400 --> 02:51:36,210
was it was in the running for
sure. And honestly, I think that

2918
02:51:36,240 --> 02:51:39,870
the the I actually use that for
the pre stream art this morning

2919
02:51:39,870 --> 02:51:43,560
people stopped making pre stream
art. They used to do cool art

2920
02:51:43,560 --> 02:51:48,960
for me to post when when we go
live and they stopped doing that

2921
02:51:48,960 --> 02:51:50,400
for some reason. Well, I

2922
02:51:50,400 --> 02:51:52,980
John C Dvorak: did use I will
say yeah, I know where they

2923
02:51:52,980 --> 02:51:57,990
used. I used I will I use the
most compelling piece that was

2924
02:51:57,990 --> 02:52:02,430
on here which was an AI
generated art piece of but it's

2925
02:52:02,430 --> 02:52:06,180
a girl who is she's the kind of
woman that does exist in the

2926
02:52:06,180 --> 02:52:09,810
real world I would have nothing
to do with anybody who does this

2927
02:52:09,810 --> 02:52:14,670
show or listen to this show. You
can just tell and comic strip

2928
02:52:14,670 --> 02:52:18,660
blogger did it and he needs to
get some he's gotten it down

2929
02:52:18,660 --> 02:52:22,320
pretty well to create this this
sort of thing. These the buttons

2930
02:52:22,320 --> 02:52:23,340
didn't help either.

2931
02:52:23,640 --> 02:52:27,000
Adam Curry: Comic Strip but no,
it did not. That's there's

2932
02:52:27,000 --> 02:52:29,940
another reason why the
newsletter got sent to spam.

2933
02:52:30,150 --> 02:52:32,790
This blatant sexual. That

2934
02:52:32,790 --> 02:52:34,770
John C Dvorak: was not in the
newsletter. It was just in the

2935
02:52:34,770 --> 02:52:36,090
post. Okay.

2936
02:52:37,170 --> 02:52:39,540
Adam Curry: Well still still do
better.

2937
02:52:39,660 --> 02:52:40,470
John C Dvorak: Are you making it
up?

2938
02:52:42,090 --> 02:52:46,500
Adam Curry: What else was there?
Behind whale poop stuff?

2939
02:52:47,010 --> 02:52:47,970
Unknown: There?

2940
02:52:48,300 --> 02:52:51,810
Adam Curry: I don't know why.
fat lady all of a sudden some AI

2941
02:52:51,810 --> 02:52:52,740
fat is not

2942
02:52:52,740 --> 02:52:55,410
John C Dvorak: fat. She's not
found that was, you know what a

2943
02:52:55,410 --> 02:52:58,200
fat lady looks is that's not
what we're thinking about. Very,

2944
02:52:58,290 --> 02:53:02,700
very little. Very odd.
Basically, you know, five pounds

2945
02:53:02,700 --> 02:53:03,420
overweight is

2946
02:53:03,660 --> 02:53:06,750
Adam Curry: bad. And I don't
think anything else really did.

2947
02:53:06,780 --> 02:53:08,640
John C Dvorak: Now. I think that
cut well, we

2948
02:53:08,640 --> 02:53:12,120
Adam Curry: did talk a bit about
the no agenda racing team car

2949
02:53:12,120 --> 02:53:15,690
battery. Talked about that. But
that really didn't.

2950
02:53:15,720 --> 02:53:19,980
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it wasn't
compelling. Yes, workss networks

2951
02:53:19,980 --> 02:53:21,750
is on a downward spiral.

2952
02:53:23,850 --> 02:53:27,390
Adam Curry: Tina just texted me.
She's in a dress in a gown and

2953
02:53:27,390 --> 02:53:31,920
she says I'm ready to meet
Trump. She's at Mar a Lago

2954
02:53:31,920 --> 02:53:32,820
tonight. You

2955
02:53:32,820 --> 02:53:35,880
John C Dvorak: know, Trump is in
New York at the at the cops

2956
02:53:35,880 --> 02:53:39,330
funeral. Now I know he's not
there. So he's not going to be

2957
02:53:39,330 --> 02:53:43,230
at Mara Lago A. And meanwhile,
cop. Trump is going to the cops

2958
02:53:43,230 --> 02:53:48,120
funeral and Biden is going to a
donation fundraiser. A

2959
02:53:48,120 --> 02:53:52,590
fundraiser he's not even to see
the dead policeman. And it's and

2960
02:53:52,590 --> 02:53:55,050
I got a number. Anyway, I got a
number out of this. I got a

2961
02:53:55,050 --> 02:53:57,540
couple of numbers. Rhonda
McDaniel is going to be paid

2962
02:53:57,540 --> 02:54:05,490
$300,000. That was her fee for
MSNBC. But for $100,000 at the

2963
02:54:05,490 --> 02:54:10,260
fundraiser, you can get your
picture taken with Biden, Obama

2964
02:54:10,320 --> 02:54:12,990
and Clinton in the same shot. So
they're going to set up a photo

2965
02:54:12,990 --> 02:54:16,710
booth. The three of you will be
there you go in $100,000. Check.

2966
02:54:16,710 --> 02:54:19,080
Boom. Here's a picture taken or
if anyone sees one of those

2967
02:54:19,080 --> 02:54:23,670
pictures on the wall somewhere.
That guy's an idiot. Okay.

2968
02:54:25,020 --> 02:54:27,510
Adam Curry: Anyway, Tina will
have boots on the ground from

2969
02:54:27,510 --> 02:54:34,680
Mar Lago for me. I've never been
this big. You know who's at her

2970
02:54:34,680 --> 02:54:35,190
table?

2971
02:54:36,660 --> 02:54:38,760
John C Dvorak: You told us
already but just in case I

2972
02:54:38,760 --> 02:54:39,150
forgot

2973
02:54:39,180 --> 02:54:40,860
Adam Curry: it. Just so you
know. That was an off air

2974
02:54:40,860 --> 02:54:42,780
conversation. Oh,

2975
02:54:42,840 --> 02:54:46,680
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
that. Yeah. James O'Keefe. Oh,

2976
02:54:46,680 --> 02:54:49,860
that's right. Yeah. That should
be interesting. Yeah.

2977
02:54:49,950 --> 02:54:51,600
Adam Curry: I wonder if he's
going to be wearing his gay

2978
02:54:51,600 --> 02:54:52,410
disguise.

2979
02:54:52,770 --> 02:54:55,710
John C Dvorak: He's going to be
filming it. I can't. I'm

2980
02:54:55,710 --> 02:54:58,800
Adam Curry: very uncomfortable
with what he's doing. It feels

2981
02:54:58,800 --> 02:55:02,370
so mean. Now he's silenced and
poor

2982
02:55:02,370 --> 02:55:03,120
John C Dvorak: Yes Honey, we're

2983
02:55:03,120 --> 02:55:05,400
Adam Curry: how honey potting
these poor games sell

2984
02:55:05,400 --> 02:55:10,470
John C Dvorak: gay guys. homely
gay guys in sell gay guys

2985
02:55:10,470 --> 02:55:12,900
looking for any attention
whatsoever that's not good.

2986
02:55:12,930 --> 02:55:17,250
Adam Curry: No, it's not. So
anyway, he's just short

2987
02:55:17,250 --> 02:55:19,410
John C Dvorak: of wearing one of
those old Groucho Marx.

2988
02:55:19,620 --> 02:55:22,620
mustaches. Phony knows exactly

2989
02:55:23,700 --> 02:55:26,040
Adam Curry: what it looks like.
Anyway, thank you very much

2990
02:55:26,040 --> 02:55:29,220
Darren O'Neill no agenda art
generator.com is where you can

2991
02:55:29,280 --> 02:55:33,570
find all of the art we have over
30,000 pieces. They're not bad

2992
02:55:33,570 --> 02:55:38,460
for 16 146 episodes. We have
hundreds hundreds of artists you

2993
02:55:38,460 --> 02:55:41,730
can join them you can open up an
account at no agenda art

2994
02:55:41,730 --> 02:55:44,910
generator.com Thank you to all
of the artists for all we

2995
02:55:44,910 --> 02:55:48,030
appreciate everything that you
do, but only one can be chosen

2996
02:55:48,060 --> 02:55:52,350
obviously. Now we go to the
treasure part. We like to thank

2997
02:55:52,350 --> 02:55:55,950
our executive and Associate
Executive Producers first. These

2998
02:55:55,950 --> 02:55:59,040
are $200 and above and John's
gonna kick it off.

2999
02:55:59,940 --> 02:56:03,210
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have a
not necessarily perfect

3000
02:56:03,210 --> 02:56:08,490
anonymous guy is in Texas for
$20.69 but I will read his note

3001
02:56:09,750 --> 02:56:13,440
starts off he's kind of one of
these guys. What do you have two

3002
02:56:13,440 --> 02:56:14,250
weirdos?

3003
02:56:14,280 --> 02:56:19,380
Adam Curry: No, I know exactly.
Well, he's for 2069 So okay,

3004
02:56:19,410 --> 02:56:24,630
John C Dvorak: yeah 2016 in
yellow on the show but I saw on

3005
02:56:24,630 --> 02:56:28,560
your Yankee looking site that
you mentioned my name on the

3006
02:56:28,560 --> 02:56:33,450
show if I donate over 50 I do
want do not want to be named.

3007
02:56:34,740 --> 02:56:37,560
This guy doesn't want to be
named but he sent an email in

3008
02:56:37,560 --> 02:56:43,590
over the years where he's named
okay. No need for recognizing a

3009
02:56:43,590 --> 02:56:46,710
mooch who had been listening
since I first heard Adam on the

3010
02:56:46,710 --> 02:56:50,730
Joe Rogan experience a while ago
There you go Rogen big fan of

3011
02:56:50,730 --> 02:56:54,810
this show and appreciate you
guys you guys make me laugh stay

3012
02:56:54,810 --> 02:56:55,650
gay.

3013
02:56:58,110 --> 02:57:03,360
Adam Curry: Okay, anonymous
anonymous. Yeah, shoot you know

3014
02:57:03,360 --> 02:57:07,290
jingles nothing else there. No,
it was it. We move on to Brandon

3015
02:57:07,290 --> 02:57:13,440
Johnson Parts Unknown 403 dot
33. He has a long handwritten

3016
02:57:13,440 --> 02:57:14,550
note but I shall read by

3017
02:57:14,550 --> 02:57:17,790
John C Dvorak: the way. This is
another donation that is

3018
02:57:17,790 --> 02:57:21,300
problematic like the one we just
read. Because he had sent in his

3019
02:57:21,300 --> 02:57:25,590
site supposedly sending a
certified letter with a donation

3020
02:57:25,590 --> 02:57:28,260
and never got through and we
went back and forth and back and

3021
02:57:28,260 --> 02:57:32,580
forth. And finally it came in.
And then he Rice's unreadable

3022
02:57:32,580 --> 02:57:36,000
note I can read it. Okay, if you
can read it, you can read it.

3023
02:57:36,030 --> 02:57:39,150
Adam Curry: Yes. Brandon Johnson
ITM gents thank you for your

3024
02:57:39,150 --> 02:57:41,790
courage. Firstly, everyone
listening to this needs to check

3025
02:57:41,790 --> 02:57:45,780
their conscience and contribute
one of the three T's karma will

3026
02:57:45,780 --> 02:57:51,120
take note and peg you back in
kind. Yes, yeah, I'm speaking

3027
02:57:51,120 --> 02:57:54,360
from personal experience as my
first treasure donation was a

3028
02:57:54,360 --> 02:57:58,140
show number donation for episode
1601. I expected nothing in

3029
02:57:58,140 --> 02:58:01,290
return. By the way that we do
the same. We give the value we

3030
02:58:01,290 --> 02:58:05,370
expect nothing in return. It
comes but we expect nothing. And

3031
02:58:05,370 --> 02:58:08,580
we're right. Most of you don't
send anything. All I asked for

3032
02:58:08,610 --> 02:58:11,940
from the universe was house
selling karma. And literally the

3033
02:58:11,940 --> 02:58:16,170
day that my tithing was
accepted. We sold our house that

3034
02:58:16,170 --> 02:58:19,440
morning I woke up seeing threes
everywhere. So what should come

3035
02:58:19,440 --> 02:58:23,160
as no surprise at all worked
out? Signs are all over if you

3036
02:58:23,160 --> 02:58:28,020
simply pay attention. Second,
please revert back to my first

3037
02:58:28,020 --> 02:58:31,170
point. If you value the show and
appreciate the insight of our

3038
02:58:31,170 --> 02:58:34,350
two gracious hosts Adam and John
that do not take them for

3039
02:58:34,350 --> 02:58:37,860
granted. All of us producers
must contribute time talent or

3040
02:58:37,860 --> 02:58:43,080
treasure to keep this train
rolling. Lastly, this completes

3041
02:58:43,080 --> 02:58:46,470
my knighthood and I would like
my name to be sir Rev. Joseph

3042
02:58:46,470 --> 02:58:51,690
James plus the 33 Joseph James
the 33rd Sir Rev. Joseph James

3043
02:58:51,690 --> 02:59:00,750
the 33rd Please and thank you oh
Blanton single barrel bourbon at

3044
02:59:00,750 --> 02:59:05,280
the roundtable. Okay, yeah, if I
could also humbly request baby

3045
02:59:05,280 --> 02:59:09,600
making karma for me and my
smokin hot wife of 21 years

3046
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:12,540
along with the following jingles
Oh, I didn't see any of this.

3047
02:59:12,540 --> 02:59:16,890
Okay, donate. I got the I got
the donate. I got the donate.

3048
02:59:20,340 --> 02:59:26,430
Sorry, this part I wasn't quite
rude. Yes. Okay. J donate 33 is

3049
02:59:26,430 --> 02:59:33,060
the magic number. Okay. Magic
number got that one. And little

3050
02:59:33,060 --> 02:59:38,760
girl Yay. Oh my goodness. Okay.
And the Go podcasting. Okay,

3051
02:59:38,820 --> 02:59:42,240
well, I think I think we can do
all of that. Keep up the great

3052
02:59:42,240 --> 02:59:45,480
work gentleman Godspeed.
Sincerely yours a fateful night.

3053
02:59:46,830 --> 02:59:53,790
PS was you say here this is kind
of a funny note. PS. In light of

3054
02:59:53,970 --> 02:59:57,300
the good news jingle. I'd like
to share this quote. The world

3055
02:59:57,300 --> 02:59:58,350
isn't getting

3056
03:00:03,480 --> 03:00:07,410
something or darker. I guess the
world isn't getting darker the

3057
03:00:07,410 --> 03:00:10,980
veil sheltering you from reality
is being lifted.

3058
03:00:11,280 --> 03:00:12,180
Unknown: Whoo

3059
03:00:12,270 --> 03:00:24,000
Adam Curry: All right very nice.
You've got Dog Dog Parma

3060
03:00:26,970 --> 03:00:32,370
Unknown: does the magic the
magic number

3061
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Adam Curry: no one there we go
and your baby karma All right.

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03:00:44,400 --> 03:00:47,460
Did it all did it all did it
all. I had one miscue sorry

3063
03:00:47,460 --> 03:00:48,360
about that Tara

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John C Dvorak: comics. Fort
Saskatchewan, Alberta, Canada.

3065
03:00:53,160 --> 03:00:55,440
333 Paris of Canada.

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03:00:55,530 --> 03:00:57,930
Adam Curry: What do I hear in
the background over there? Ah,

3067
03:00:58,860 --> 03:00:59,430
okay.

3068
03:00:59,970 --> 03:01:01,980
John C Dvorak: What you're
hearing is they've decided

3069
03:01:02,040 --> 03:01:06,570
because of the potholes. Say
later, my new tire if

3070
03:01:06,570 --> 03:01:09,540
Adam Curry: you complain about
the potholes, yeah, I complain

3071
03:01:09,540 --> 03:01:09,660
about

3072
03:01:09,660 --> 03:01:12,450
John C Dvorak: the pot but no,
they're dead. What you're

3073
03:01:12,450 --> 03:01:19,320
hearing is a machine that is
shaving the road for the

3074
03:01:19,470 --> 03:01:21,090
repaving Oh, so

3075
03:01:21,090 --> 03:01:24,300
Adam Curry: they're fixing the
fixing potholes locally, they're

3076
03:01:24,300 --> 03:01:27,000
John C Dvorak: going well, this
is not where the potholes are

3077
03:01:27,000 --> 03:01:29,550
the potholes. The potholes that
are dangerous are on the

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03:01:29,550 --> 03:01:30,810
freeway. Stop

3079
03:01:30,810 --> 03:01:33,630
Adam Curry: complaining. They're
fixing it for you. Well,

3080
03:01:33,630 --> 03:01:35,550
John C Dvorak: they're making a
lot of noise as you can tell,

3081
03:01:35,640 --> 03:01:40,050
they are there. Anyway, Alberta,
Canada 333. It's interesting

3082
03:01:40,050 --> 03:01:44,760
that we got no classic three,
three 3.33 donations on this

3083
03:01:44,760 --> 03:01:48,360
show. In fact, we only had a
total of 43 donations over 50

3084
03:01:48,360 --> 03:01:54,240
bucks which is really low for
Thursday. And tower comic says

3085
03:01:54,240 --> 03:01:56,850
thanks for the deconstruction
Can I get a D douchey

3086
03:01:58,530 --> 03:02:00,780
Unknown: you've been D deuced.
For

3087
03:02:00,780 --> 03:02:04,290
John C Dvorak: my buddy Blaze,
and he would like an R two d two

3088
03:02:04,290 --> 03:02:07,830
karma and a jingle Amen fist
bump. Yeah, we

3089
03:02:07,830 --> 03:02:15,480
Adam Curry: can do that. Hey,
man fist bump. You've got karma.

3090
03:02:17,700 --> 03:02:22,650
Amy burn is in Swan ona North
Carolina. 333 She says thank you

3091
03:02:22,650 --> 03:02:27,030
for making me laugh when there's
so much grim news. By the way,

3092
03:02:27,540 --> 03:02:30,030
if you've been listening to this
podcast the whole way through

3093
03:02:30,030 --> 03:02:33,510
and you haven't laughed once
never listen again. It is it is

3094
03:02:33,510 --> 03:02:36,330
hard if you don't laugh at least
once during the show then we

3095
03:02:36,330 --> 03:02:40,020
fail. Really enjoyed Adams
testimony no bells are karma.

3096
03:02:40,110 --> 03:02:41,160
All right, thank you very much.

3097
03:02:41,250 --> 03:02:44,160
John C Dvorak: Yes sweet. It's
very sweet. Hey, we go to Eli

3098
03:02:44,160 --> 03:02:48,030
the camera gets her Eli that
coffee goes slips in an ad in

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03:02:48,030 --> 03:02:52,290
Bensenville Illinois. He's very
slight $212.12 I would like to

3100
03:02:52,290 --> 03:02:57,870
credit this donation to scare a
manga Oh for his Tree Lobster

3101
03:02:57,900 --> 03:03:00,690
art from the last show which
cracked me up so that's a

3102
03:03:00,690 --> 03:03:03,450
gruesome or not is that a
switcheroo that was just a

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03:03:03,450 --> 03:03:06,750
dedication. No credit he says
credit he says credit credit so

3104
03:03:06,750 --> 03:03:10,380
he gets the donation scare him
let him buy the plug is coming.

3105
03:03:10,380 --> 03:03:13,980
I had the pleasure of meeting
him at a brewery event where I

3106
03:03:13,980 --> 03:03:19,110
was selling coffee a few weeks
ago. John you were spot on in

3107
03:03:19,110 --> 03:03:23,880
the newsletter. The bridge did
fall like it was flimsy. To

3108
03:03:23,880 --> 03:03:27,780
jingles can summarize this
week's bridge collapse. Please

3109
03:03:27,780 --> 03:03:32,520
play coincidence I think not.
Followed by build back better.

3110
03:03:32,670 --> 03:03:36,450
My wife's favorite jingle
producers ruined coffee with no

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03:03:36,450 --> 03:03:40,950
bitter burn case. Visit gigawatt
coffee roasters.com and use the

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03:03:40,950 --> 03:03:44,940
code ITM 20 for 20% off your
first order. Stay caffeinated

3113
03:03:45,000 --> 03:03:46,050
Eli the coffee guy

3114
03:03:46,080 --> 03:03:51,030
Adam Curry: I will say I ran out
of black rifle this morning. And

3115
03:03:51,030 --> 03:03:55,890
so then I picked up one of their
gigawatt packs that need a

3116
03:03:55,890 --> 03:03:59,100
little more than then I would
put in the black rifle but he's

3117
03:03:59,100 --> 03:04:02,760
good at that it keeps me awake
and jolly

3118
03:04:02,820 --> 03:04:06,180
Unknown: coincidence? I think
not sort of

3119
03:04:07,320 --> 03:04:08,580
beyond your three

3120
03:04:17,250 --> 03:04:22,800
Adam Curry: Leonora Coronel
Coronel Coronel Nevada Nevada

3121
03:04:22,800 --> 03:04:26,310
City. Is it in Nevada City if
it's in California or Nevada

3122
03:04:26,310 --> 03:04:26,700
City,

3123
03:04:27,360 --> 03:04:31,080
John C Dvorak: it's still Nevada
City. 2008

3124
03:04:31,200 --> 03:04:35,310
Adam Curry: Associate Executive
Producer $21.60 ITM gentlemen my

3125
03:04:35,310 --> 03:04:38,070
smokin hot husband Gus has been
a devoted listener since I hit

3126
03:04:38,070 --> 03:04:42,450
him in the mouth and 2021 You're
a good wife, and I'm ashamed to

3127
03:04:42,450 --> 03:04:46,920
say he still hasn't gotten
around to donating. Please do do

3128
03:04:46,920 --> 03:04:49,680
Shem for his 48th birthday
tomorrow, march 29.

3129
03:04:51,720 --> 03:04:53,220
Unknown: Ben de duced

3130
03:04:57,180 --> 03:05:00,000
John C Dvorak: Linda Lubetkin
comes up and she's the fun

3131
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:03,360
Finally Associate Executive
producer on the short list. Oh

3132
03:05:03,360 --> 03:05:05,580
sure. He's in Lakewood,
Colorado. And of course she

3133
03:05:05,580 --> 03:05:08,790
wants to jobs karma. So there's
nothing new there. She says for

3134
03:05:08,790 --> 03:05:11,790
an exceptional resume, go to
Image makers inc.com For all

3135
03:05:11,790 --> 03:05:15,360
your executive resume and job
search needs. That's image

3136
03:05:15,360 --> 03:05:19,410
makers Inc with a K. Or find
Linda Lou Potkin Duchess of jobs

3137
03:05:19,410 --> 03:05:22,320
and writer of resumes on the
producer list.

3138
03:05:22,380 --> 03:05:28,290
Unknown: There you go jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs, for jobs.

3139
03:05:31,200 --> 03:05:33,810
Adam Curry: And that is it for
executive and Associate

3140
03:05:33,810 --> 03:05:36,180
Executive producers. As you
know, the rules aren't anything

3141
03:05:36,180 --> 03:05:39,090
above 200 hours, we will read
your note, regardless of what it

3142
03:05:39,090 --> 03:05:42,090
is long as we can, we can read
it. And it's not too long and

3143
03:05:42,090 --> 03:05:44,670
it's not too crazy, but we
pretty much read them all.

3144
03:05:45,000 --> 03:05:48,120
Anything under that we pick and
choose where we can depends on

3145
03:05:48,120 --> 03:05:50,910
time depends on what the note
is. But if you really want to

3146
03:05:50,910 --> 03:05:53,610
have it read 200. Above is where
you go for your executive and

3147
03:05:53,610 --> 03:05:56,280
Associate Executive Producer
status, which are real credits.

3148
03:05:56,550 --> 03:06:00,990
Go ahead, ask Dana Brunetti
producer, Bob GranTurismo.

3149
03:06:01,110 --> 03:06:04,590
Should have been an Osprey when
you saw that movie. I am too. I

3150
03:06:04,590 --> 03:06:08,280
loved that movie. I sat there
and I said Phoebe. That was a

3151
03:06:08,280 --> 03:06:11,280
great movie. Phoebe's like Ray

3152
03:06:11,310 --> 03:06:13,500
John C Dvorak: was watching the
movie with you. Oh, yeah. Oh,

3153
03:06:13,500 --> 03:06:18,090
yeah. She loves Dino dog. I had
to mention this. Dogs can see

3154
03:06:18,360 --> 03:06:21,240
LCD screens. They never could
see a television

3155
03:06:21,240 --> 03:06:23,100
Adam Curry: set. That's right.
They'll see these screens man

3156
03:06:23,100 --> 03:06:24,420
all the difference in the dog's
life

3157
03:06:24,450 --> 03:06:27,510
John C Dvorak: when the doing
dog shows seeing cats too. So

3158
03:06:27,510 --> 03:06:30,360
dog story watch so dogs watch TV
now.

3159
03:06:30,390 --> 03:06:35,340
Adam Curry: I know. I know. It's
great. She loves it. But I just

3160
03:06:35,370 --> 03:06:37,980
especially loved like the when
they show the inside of the

3161
03:06:37,980 --> 03:06:39,840
cylinders firing and

3162
03:06:41,100 --> 03:06:43,380
John C Dvorak: the movie it does
special effects and everything

3163
03:06:43,380 --> 03:06:46,860
that but that movie was so well
produced and well done. Well

3164
03:06:46,860 --> 03:06:51,240
shot the guy you know it got it.
I think it paid out. But it was

3165
03:06:51,240 --> 03:06:51,990
like, you know,

3166
03:06:52,020 --> 03:06:54,120
Adam Curry: oh no, they made
bank upfront. It was one big

3167
03:06:54,120 --> 03:06:59,850
commercial. Oh, yes, there is no
dummies like, Hey, by the way,

3168
03:06:59,850 --> 03:07:02,220
for all you're gonna pay me in
advance, I'll do anything for

3169
03:07:02,220 --> 03:07:05,430
all the crap I gave him about 50
Shades of Grey. This really

3170
03:07:05,430 --> 03:07:09,990
makes up for it. Not in money,
but it makes up for it. Anyway,

3171
03:07:11,040 --> 03:07:13,920
we don't read anything under 50
Because people there like to

3172
03:07:13,920 --> 03:07:17,490
stay anonymous. So 4999 is
always good. Don't add any fees

3173
03:07:17,490 --> 03:07:20,040
because that will put it up over
the 50 and then we might make a

3174
03:07:20,040 --> 03:07:23,460
mistake. And of course we want
to thank everybody. And if

3175
03:07:23,460 --> 03:07:26,220
everybody did this, it would be
great if you just take out a

3176
03:07:26,220 --> 03:07:29,280
sustaining donation which is
some kind of regular thing that

3177
03:07:29,280 --> 03:07:32,910
you automatically have paid and
it can be anything you want. If

3178
03:07:32,910 --> 03:07:36,690
everybody did that, we'd be in
fat city instead. Here we are.

3179
03:07:37,020 --> 03:07:38,940
That would be the day shortlist

3180
03:07:39,570 --> 03:07:42,690
John C Dvorak: keep to idealize
the whole situation and think

3181
03:07:42,690 --> 03:07:45,990
they can do exactly what you
described. Was that oh, you know

3182
03:07:45,990 --> 03:07:50,100
if I got like $500 like No, I
only need like 10,000 people to

3183
03:07:50,100 --> 03:07:53,910
listen to the podcast. And if I
charge them each 10 bucks a

3184
03:07:53,910 --> 03:07:57,210
month. Oh yeah, that's perfect.
Because at 10 bucks a month that

3185
03:07:57,210 --> 03:08:00,840
means that's like over $100
million a year I'll make a

3186
03:08:00,840 --> 03:08:04,260
million to a year with 10,000
listeners

3187
03:08:04,290 --> 03:08:06,210
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's how
they always started. That's how

3188
03:08:06,210 --> 03:08:10,980
we started and then with our $2
donation Yeah, boy boy did we

3189
03:08:10,980 --> 03:08:14,340
learn learn fast? Yeah, we did
we learned newsletters help

3190
03:08:14,370 --> 03:08:19,800
podcasters if they can get them
through. So thank you very much.

3191
03:08:19,830 --> 03:08:22,770
No agenda donations.com is where
you can learn more and be a

3192
03:08:22,770 --> 03:08:25,740
producer. No one here is a
listener. You are a producer of

3193
03:08:25,740 --> 03:08:28,110
the best podcast in the
universe. John will take us now

3194
03:08:28,110 --> 03:08:29,580
through the 50 donations.

3195
03:08:29,670 --> 03:08:31,860
John C Dvorak: The Highland
Craig's start us off from new

3196
03:08:31,860 --> 03:08:36,780
brown fells Texas, Braunfels,
Braunfels? Yeah, whatever the

3197
03:08:36,780 --> 03:08:42,690
case is. I'm still irked. 182 18
She has a nice and or she or he

3198
03:08:42,690 --> 03:08:46,200
I think his wife that wrote this
note. Yeah, this is helping my

3199
03:08:46,200 --> 03:08:51,990
hubs and i She says by COVID.
Nice note from one of the

3200
03:08:52,020 --> 03:08:58,410
Highland Highland Craig's Ms.
Ms. and Mrs. Craig this Duane

3201
03:08:58,410 --> 03:09:02,430
biblico. in Calgary, Alberta. No
jingles no karma, of course when

3202
03:09:02,580 --> 03:09:10,530
3003 Baron surfer si r Fe are in
Shasta Lake California, full to

3203
03:09:10,530 --> 03:09:16,800
the brim by the way. 123 45
Hakan Anderson in Portland,

3204
03:09:16,800 --> 03:09:22,950
Oregon. 105 35 Cole McCormick
birthday boy. First time

3205
03:09:22,950 --> 03:09:25,380
donating Nisa de douching.

3206
03:09:27,810 --> 03:09:30,060
Unknown: De deuced Coca

3207
03:09:30,090 --> 03:09:32,490
Adam Curry: Cola. I know this
name. I know Cole Cole

3208
03:09:32,490 --> 03:09:32,970
McCormack,

3209
03:09:33,000 --> 03:09:35,760
John C Dvorak: he needs some of
his jobs. Kermit then he donated

3210
03:09:35,760 --> 03:09:43,620
105 35 Thanks, cool. Hi Hawker.
In Higginsville, Missouri 100

3211
03:09:43,620 --> 03:09:50,340
And he says the state's reality
outstanding product. No kidding.

3212
03:09:50,340 --> 03:09:55,680
Kevin McLaughlin comes in with
boobs. 808 1646 Boob donation,

3213
03:09:55,950 --> 03:10:02,760
Sir Richard Hufford in Tempe
Arizona 808 Happy Easter wishes

3214
03:10:02,760 --> 03:10:05,340
coming Easter Sundays coming
out. Let's bring that donation.

3215
03:10:06,000 --> 03:10:07,170
Easter donations coming up.

3216
03:10:08,700 --> 03:10:11,310
Adam Curry: Guess what? We're
working on Easter and we're

3217
03:10:11,310 --> 03:10:15,720
John C Dvorak: working on Easter
the High Holy Day. It's one of

3218
03:10:15,720 --> 03:10:22,380
them. Sir Richard Hufford in
Tempe, Arizona, who came in with

3219
03:10:22,380 --> 03:10:28,890
the OIG as I said, Ryan and to
neodi and note DFO and Antonioni

3220
03:10:28,920 --> 03:10:29,160
and

3221
03:10:29,220 --> 03:10:31,050
Adam Curry: intent on Eddie and
tinetti

3222
03:10:32,880 --> 03:10:35,400
John C Dvorak: to take his
Antonioni while it says right

3223
03:10:35,430 --> 03:10:38,910
there. Oh, he's got his
pronunciation internet and

3224
03:10:38,910 --> 03:10:43,290
tinetti. Well, that might be the
way you pronounce I think 808

3225
03:10:43,290 --> 03:10:48,960
For him, Chris, just sick in
Phillipsburg, New Jersey, as

3226
03:10:48,960 --> 03:10:53,610
he's got it No. 808 He says he
says he's here for his two

3227
03:10:53,610 --> 03:10:57,540
favorite boobs love you guys
love you mean that cute is cute.

3228
03:10:58,470 --> 03:11:02,220
Derek Allison in Rock Springs,
New York eight oh, we get every

3229
03:11:02,220 --> 03:11:11,670
808 day. Yeah. He says Shiloh
leaps is a douchebag we got that

3230
03:11:11,670 --> 03:11:19,110
out of the way. Dana Carroll or
Dina Carroll in Lawton, Nevada,

3231
03:11:19,140 --> 03:11:25,290
Laughlin, Nevada 7227 It's
interesting town John Boyd bore

3232
03:11:25,320 --> 03:11:26,040
high bore.

3233
03:11:26,220 --> 03:11:31,680
Adam Curry: Holy Bible boy bore
hole a bore. Well means Hey,

3234
03:11:31,680 --> 03:11:32,310
Farmer.

3235
03:11:32,760 --> 03:11:37,350
John C Dvorak: Hey, mister. Hey,
farmers 6114 like Chad cuit in

3236
03:11:37,350 --> 03:11:43,050
Folsom, California 606 mile
boobs. Paul Webb in Twickenham

3237
03:11:43,050 --> 03:11:49,320
Middlesex UK for the 585 Matthew
Golan in Miami, Florida. 5510

3238
03:11:49,620 --> 03:11:54,600
Adrian Christiansen 55 Brian
congar and I think these are all

3239
03:11:54,600 --> 03:11:59,160
$50 donations that have been
jumped up. Indianapolis, Indiana

3240
03:11:59,160 --> 03:12:05,910
5272 John Robertson, yet
Yucaipa, California 5272. Person

3241
03:12:05,910 --> 03:12:10,920
of merit comics not a comic guys
today, Columbus, Ohio 5272 and

3242
03:12:10,920 --> 03:12:13,920
Scott Nelson and Council Bluffs,
Iowa 5001 And the following

3243
03:12:13,920 --> 03:12:19,770
people are $50 donations.
Starting with Amie Grohl in

3244
03:12:19,770 --> 03:12:23,490
bureau in Washington right
outside the airport, John Walter

3245
03:12:23,490 --> 03:12:28,800
and when achey Washington, Fall
Line farm in Columbus, Georgia.

3246
03:12:28,980 --> 03:12:33,360
I'm gonna go visit them. Quinta
Rick's Inc. in Bradenton,

3247
03:12:33,360 --> 03:12:38,640
Florida. He put a note in here
it says John is great. Adam, you

3248
03:12:38,640 --> 03:12:44,040
too. Okay. In the comments on
the sensationalism. Jack

3249
03:12:44,160 --> 03:12:49,260
Schofield in yankeetown,
Florida, Shana Norberg in

3250
03:12:49,260 --> 03:12:52,680
Seattle, Washington, another
Washingtonian, Brian Eamon

3251
03:12:52,710 --> 03:12:56,940
Heiser in Lancaster, California,
for a Scott Brinkley in

3252
03:12:56,940 --> 03:13:02,100
Christiansburg. Virginia, Aaron
Weiss Gerber in Bend, Oregon,

3253
03:13:02,100 --> 03:13:06,840
Michael Elmore in Gastonia New
York, Richard Gardner, who I

3254
03:13:06,840 --> 03:13:11,190
always think is New York, John
Taylor in Florissant, Colorado

3255
03:13:11,280 --> 03:13:16,650
ZEV green in Teaneck, New Jersey
and last but not least, the good

3256
03:13:16,650 --> 03:13:21,030
old brand family in Placerville,
California want to thank these

3257
03:13:21,030 --> 03:13:25,140
people for making show 1646 a
reality and a winner.

3258
03:13:25,350 --> 03:13:30,810
Adam Curry: Also got a note here
from this is from Spartanburg

3259
03:13:30,810 --> 03:13:34,530
who will be titled changing
today to a baron. He says I

3260
03:13:34,530 --> 03:13:39,240
don't know if I ever got my got
my make right to Baron. Oh,

3261
03:13:39,240 --> 03:13:42,630
okay, so no, I guess we miss it.
So we're doing it now. If indeed

3262
03:13:42,630 --> 03:13:46,110
I'm a baron, I want to relay my
disgust with Adams lack of

3263
03:13:46,110 --> 03:13:51,480
appreciation of pournami for
Clip of the Day. Yes, that very

3264
03:13:51,480 --> 03:13:54,570
well as clip of the year he says
as a bear and I wish to confirm

3265
03:13:54,570 --> 03:13:57,450
a clip of the day from my
territory and your honor. Keep

3266
03:13:57,450 --> 03:14:00,810
up the great work and yes, I
know send more money. James

3267
03:14:00,840 --> 03:14:04,260
Nitto clerical change, please.
Oh, that's his name that I

3268
03:14:04,290 --> 03:14:07,350
please update my name from
Spartanburg to Spartanburg.

3269
03:14:07,950 --> 03:14:12,450
Okay, Baron does spell check
your words for spell check works

3270
03:14:12,450 --> 03:14:15,510
wonders Dvorak ha ha in the
morning. Thank you both for the

3271
03:14:15,510 --> 03:14:18,510
best podcast in the universe
with my latest donation. i What?

3272
03:14:19,050 --> 03:14:22,740
John C Dvorak: I will say that i
i There's typos in the

3273
03:14:22,740 --> 03:14:24,000
newsletter on and off. I

3274
03:14:24,450 --> 03:14:26,700
Adam Curry: came. I missed one.
I missed one.

3275
03:14:28,290 --> 03:14:29,970
John C Dvorak: We missed more
than one but the one that you

3276
03:14:29,970 --> 03:14:35,850
missed it I missed we all missed
is the word shipping was spelled

3277
03:14:35,850 --> 03:14:39,180
shopping. Everybody in their
sisters seems to have

3278
03:14:39,180 --> 03:14:42,960
Adam Curry: caught that the ones
that receive the email. Yeah,

3279
03:14:42,990 --> 03:14:45,780
John C Dvorak: the five guys who
received the email all wrote in

3280
03:14:45,930 --> 03:14:46,230
well,

3281
03:14:46,230 --> 03:14:48,870
Adam Curry: people who receive
it read it. That's the good news

3282
03:14:49,170 --> 03:14:53,280
bill. With this latest donation
like now qualifies the barons in

3283
03:14:53,280 --> 03:14:56,340
Schubert Trove. My title I only
think it's fair to have the best

3284
03:14:56,340 --> 03:14:59,400
choice of your remaining lands
for you to determine. I would

3285
03:14:59,400 --> 03:15:01,650
like for them to Come with
copious concubines to help

3286
03:15:01,650 --> 03:15:04,380
maintain order in the territory
hope the double credit deal

3287
03:15:04,380 --> 03:15:07,350
isn't the extra strategy Keep up
the great work. I love the value

3288
03:15:07,350 --> 03:15:10,230
for value model not a bad
concept from a couple of mofos

3289
03:15:10,260 --> 03:15:12,930
Oh beautiful thank you very
much. Here's the jobs karma that

3290
03:15:12,930 --> 03:15:13,560
was requested

3291
03:15:13,590 --> 03:15:18,690
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs for jobs.

3292
03:15:20,760 --> 03:15:23,220
Adam Curry: You can go to no
agenda donations.com Thank you

3293
03:15:23,220 --> 03:15:25,710
again to our executive and
Associate Executive producers

3294
03:15:25,710 --> 03:15:33,780
for 1460 For our form
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3295
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episodes

3296
03:15:51,960 --> 03:15:55,650
yes, we've got some birthdays to
talk about niceness. today. Hi

3297
03:15:55,650 --> 03:16:00,600
Khan. Kula Andrus wishes his
nice Tilda a very happy birthday

3298
03:16:00,600 --> 03:16:05,070
she turned one year old on March
24. Cole McCormick turns 27 on

3299
03:16:05,070 --> 03:16:09,210
the 25th David wicker says Happy
Birthday to hope she is turning

3300
03:16:09,210 --> 03:16:14,130
seven today. We have Ivonne
Fergus turning 58 today and it

3301
03:16:14,130 --> 03:16:20,010
is Jackson Smith's birthday. And
Jackson is turning five today

3302
03:16:20,010 --> 03:16:23,970
and he is looking forward to the
no agenda ABC book which I think

3303
03:16:23,970 --> 03:16:28,620
is coming in May so stay tuned.
Parker's 33 celebrates today JP

3304
03:16:28,620 --> 03:16:31,770
Smith wishes his son Jackson
Wyatt Smith. Oh, I just did

3305
03:16:31,770 --> 03:16:35,370
that. And Leonora wishes her
smokin hot husband Gus Happy

3306
03:16:35,370 --> 03:16:39,120
birthday he turns 48 on March 29
Happy birthday from everybody

3307
03:16:39,120 --> 03:16:41,220
here the best podcast in the
universe

3308
03:16:50,490 --> 03:16:54,420
don't want to be and we just
read the note from Spartanburg

3309
03:16:54,420 --> 03:16:58,500
and Spartanburg becomes barren
today and he can figure out his

3310
03:16:58,500 --> 03:17:00,960
own protectorate and that of
course will be part of the no

3311
03:17:00,960 --> 03:17:04,230
agenda peerage. Congratulations,
Baron Spartanburg, thank you

3312
03:17:04,230 --> 03:17:07,800
very much for supporting the no
agenda show then we have one

3313
03:17:07,800 --> 03:17:11,520
night to do today. So there's
our one night blade and this we

3314
03:17:11,520 --> 03:17:17,880
haven't. That's good. Okay.
Brandon Johnson. Thank you very

3315
03:17:17,880 --> 03:17:20,580
much Brandon for supporting the
best podcast in university

3316
03:17:20,580 --> 03:17:23,670
amount of $1,000 or more. We're
very, very happy to have you

3317
03:17:23,670 --> 03:17:29,340
here and to pronounce the K the
as Dr. Sir Rev. Joseph James the

3318
03:17:29,340 --> 03:17:33,750
33rd. Night of the no agenda
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3319
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have by your request. Blanton's
single Baron bourbon, hookers

3320
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and blow of course rent bows and
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3321
03:17:41,700 --> 03:17:44,580
you're into that diet soda and
video games, fish pie and

3322
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fellatio. We have beer and
Bloods. Rubenesque Lumina Rosae

3323
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Geisha Saki, vaca Manila
bargains and bourbon sparkling

3324
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cider an escort ginger ale and
Jerboas breast milk and Pablo

3325
03:17:53,010 --> 03:17:56,940
men, of course, but mutton and
the me and you can go over to no

3326
03:17:56,940 --> 03:18:00,510
agenda rings.com Check out these
one. You know, someone was

3327
03:18:00,510 --> 03:18:03,450
looking at the Signet rings and
sent off a note I had to send it

3328
03:18:03,450 --> 03:18:10,050
to Jay. He says he says I looked
at the Latin on the ring. It's

3329
03:18:10,050 --> 03:18:13,680
in now it's a signet ring. So
it's in mirrored and he said and

3330
03:18:13,680 --> 03:18:17,310
he had the Latin he said that
means something about little

3331
03:18:17,310 --> 03:18:22,170
girls. Like what? So I put his
girl yay Yeah, literally like

3332
03:18:22,170 --> 03:18:25,800
little girl YAY or happy little
girl. I put that into the

3333
03:18:25,800 --> 03:18:29,520
translator Yeah, I said but this
is not right. I'm confused. He

3334
03:18:29,520 --> 03:18:33,570
had the not mirrored the mirror.
Of course. Yes. You know, hit

3335
03:18:33,570 --> 03:18:36,780
them in the mouth. But it's kind
of cool that if you don't mirror

3336
03:18:36,780 --> 03:18:40,260
the Latin it looks like it says
little girl yay. That's a

3337
03:18:40,260 --> 03:18:42,840
liberal liberal translation but

3338
03:18:42,840 --> 03:18:45,570
John C Dvorak: it may have been
done on purpose by couture he's

3339
03:18:45,570 --> 03:18:46,650
had that kind of says he's

3340
03:18:46,650 --> 03:18:51,780
Adam Curry: that kind of guy.
Anyway. You sir. Mr. Ice I

3341
03:18:51,780 --> 03:18:54,570
should say doctor, sir rep.
Joseph James with 33rd. You'll

3342
03:18:54,570 --> 03:18:58,320
get one of those. Go to nogen
rings.com. And give us your

3343
03:18:58,320 --> 03:19:01,320
address. There's a little sizing
guide there send that's your

3344
03:19:01,320 --> 03:19:04,440
size too as well. And it comes
with wax to seal your important

3345
03:19:04,440 --> 03:19:07,020
correspondence along with a
certificate of authenticity.

3346
03:19:07,020 --> 03:19:09,810
Welcome to the roundtable. And
thank you for supporting no

3347
03:19:09,810 --> 03:19:11,490
agenda. No one.

3348
03:19:17,910 --> 03:19:22,020
People get a lot of value today.
Going long alert the affiliates.

3349
03:19:22,260 --> 03:19:26,040
We have a couple of meetups to
promote. But we first have a

3350
03:19:26,040 --> 03:19:30,000
report from voc learning and the
VOC lending and eat up report

3351
03:19:30,000 --> 03:19:32,370
that's in the Netherlands. Andre

3352
03:19:32,370 --> 03:19:35,520
Unknown: live from the no
agenda, eat up no agenda in

3353
03:19:35,520 --> 03:19:37,440
marketing from the

3354
03:19:38,460 --> 03:19:41,970
Adam Curry: Frankenfood felly in
vacillating, is better and I

3355
03:19:41,970 --> 03:19:45,150
just want to remind you to stay
humble stack sets and start with

3356
03:19:49,080 --> 03:19:49,650
protection

3357
03:19:53,520 --> 03:19:56,580
Unknown: Hi, Natalia here and
I'm dying because I have a lot

3358
03:19:56,580 --> 03:19:57,420
of hot flashes.

3359
03:19:59,340 --> 03:20:00,450
Looking for a boy Friends

3360
03:20:04,080 --> 03:20:08,280
why you think we're wrong all
the time? Or high or heavy?

3361
03:20:13,049 --> 03:20:18,419
In the morning Damien Mitchell,
the lover of dirty jokes were a

3362
03:20:18,419 --> 03:20:19,799
bit low and dirty jokes here

3363
03:20:26,040 --> 03:20:28,230
these mofos just arranged my
marriage

3364
03:20:33,720 --> 03:20:37,230
Thanks What a wonderful meetup
tonight. Fantastic Hello here

3365
03:20:41,010 --> 03:20:42,030
gotta hit him in the mouth

3366
03:20:48,180 --> 03:20:50,340
Adam Curry: by the way, I'm
planning a trip I'm gonna do a

3367
03:20:50,340 --> 03:20:53,190
solo trip to the Netherlands see
my daughter I think maybe the

3368
03:20:53,190 --> 03:20:56,970
beginning of June so we need to
plan a meet up. I want to go to

3369
03:20:56,970 --> 03:21:00,540
one of these meetups, these
people having too much fun. I

3370
03:21:00,540 --> 03:21:05,760
love it. meetups happening.
Today North Georgia monthly meet

3371
03:21:05,760 --> 03:21:08,310
up at six o'clock at the Cherry
Street brewing in Alpharetta,

3372
03:21:08,310 --> 03:21:11,880
Georgia Saturday the Ventura
County California most peaceful

3373
03:21:11,880 --> 03:21:16,350
meetup noon, noon o'clock at
noon institutionelle company in

3374
03:21:16,350 --> 03:21:20,730
Carmilla card Millo California
and also on Saturday, the Osaka

3375
03:21:20,730 --> 03:21:26,220
Castle cherry blossom Amarillo
tamarillo Yes, thank you. Back

3376
03:21:26,220 --> 03:21:30,420
to Saturday, the Osaka Castle
cherry blossom viewing and

3377
03:21:30,420 --> 03:21:34,890
amygdala shrinkage meetup
1:33pm. In Osaka Castle Park,

3378
03:21:35,070 --> 03:21:39,180
Osaka, Japan I know we have a
lot of nights in Osaka. So I'm

3379
03:21:39,180 --> 03:21:43,140
looking forward to a wonderful
meetup report sir bill of Osaka

3380
03:21:43,140 --> 03:21:47,100
he's I've met him several times.
Of course I've also met him in

3381
03:21:47,370 --> 03:21:51,810
in Tokyo. So looking forward to
your Meetup report. And then

3382
03:21:51,810 --> 03:21:54,900
finally the biggest little meet
up to 33 at Bighorn Tavern in

3383
03:21:54,900 --> 03:21:59,250
Reno, Nevada. That'll be on
Saturday as well on the horizon

3384
03:21:59,250 --> 03:22:02,790
for April Raleigh, North
Carolina Mount Holly, North

3385
03:22:02,790 --> 03:22:06,510
Carolina, Colorado Springs
Myrtle Beach, Tulsa, Anna Texas,

3386
03:22:06,510 --> 03:22:10,320
Dayton, Ohio, London, UK, London
we can do better than the last

3387
03:22:10,320 --> 03:22:13,980
time Canton, Georgia, Chamblee,
Georgia Keyport New Jersey

3388
03:22:13,980 --> 03:22:17,700
Indianapolis Indiana, Richmond
Virginia Aurora Illinois San

3389
03:22:17,700 --> 03:22:21,300
Diego Leiden the Netherlands and
Richmond Virginia again these

3390
03:22:21,300 --> 03:22:24,030
are the no agenda meetup This is
where you really get you heard

3391
03:22:24,030 --> 03:22:28,230
the meetup report. That's what
most of them were like only that

3392
03:22:28,230 --> 03:22:31,200
sounds funny when you have Dutch
accents but all of these meetups

3393
03:22:31,230 --> 03:22:35,280
are that enjoyable people love
them you will love it. You

3394
03:22:35,280 --> 03:22:39,210
cannot spell community without
the unity and connection is

3395
03:22:39,210 --> 03:22:42,300
protection go to no agenda
meetups.com If you can't find

3396
03:22:42,300 --> 03:22:45,900
one near you start one yourself
it's easy and fun sometimes

3397
03:22:45,900 --> 03:22:55,020
Unknown: you go hang out with
Dyson days you will be triggered

3398
03:22:57,210 --> 03:23:03,540
you will be where everybody
feels the same. Is like

3399
03:23:05,610 --> 03:23:07,650
Adam Curry: and they're gonna
make it easy on Yeah, I have

3400
03:23:07,680 --> 03:23:10,620
zero ISOs I don't know what
happened but I wound up with

3401
03:23:10,620 --> 03:23:13,680
none. Wow. So it's gonna be one
of yours.

3402
03:23:14,160 --> 03:23:16,530
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
have anything good I don't think

3403
03:23:16,530 --> 03:23:20,580
maybe maybe Okay, let's try
let's start from the bottom here

3404
03:23:20,580 --> 03:23:21,720
and go with yeesh

3405
03:23:21,960 --> 03:23:25,470
Adam Curry: He's okay, no, no,
no.

3406
03:23:25,650 --> 03:23:27,240
John C Dvorak: Okay, then go to
tragic.

3407
03:23:27,480 --> 03:23:31,590
Adam Curry: Tragic. Miss better
than yeesh Yeah,

3408
03:23:31,620 --> 03:23:34,440
John C Dvorak: it is. And then
we had somebody that submitted

3409
03:23:34,440 --> 03:23:40,200
this one this is the use as a
producer submitted one this is

3410
03:23:40,200 --> 03:23:46,680
the good work tick tock good
work they're tick tock. Huh,

3411
03:23:47,130 --> 03:23:48,630
Adam Curry: let me hear the
tragic again.

3412
03:23:49,290 --> 03:23:52,620
Unknown: It's tragic. Good work
there. Tick tock.

3413
03:23:54,600 --> 03:23:56,310
Adam Curry: Did not you right,
none of them are really

3414
03:23:56,310 --> 03:23:58,560
fantastic. Which one do you like
the most

3415
03:23:59,490 --> 03:24:00,360
John C Dvorak: like to tick tock

3416
03:24:01,230 --> 03:24:03,240
Adam Curry: tick tock. Okay, now
we'll use the good luck there.

3417
03:24:03,240 --> 03:24:09,180
Tick tock. That's good. news.
Good news. Good news. Good news.

3418
03:24:09,210 --> 03:24:11,340
That's right. We're about to
send you off into your long

3419
03:24:11,340 --> 03:24:14,910
weekend. We got all kinds of
wonderful things coming up and

3420
03:24:14,910 --> 03:24:17,640
we want to make sure that you
leave here with a song in your

3421
03:24:17,640 --> 03:24:20,550
heart and a skipping your steps
that we bring you one good news

3422
03:24:20,550 --> 03:24:23,610
clip that is guaranteed to bring
a smile to your face. John, what

3423
03:24:23,610 --> 03:24:24,600
do we have today?

3424
03:24:24,840 --> 03:24:30,120
John C Dvorak: Well, today we
have a woman who was in the

3425
03:24:30,120 --> 03:24:34,080
hospital she had cancer she got
over cancer and as she was so

3426
03:24:34,080 --> 03:24:37,620
happy as she left the hospital
and i By the way, have a short

3427
03:24:37,620 --> 03:24:41,040
comment to make Mimi has a short
comment to make about this clip.

3428
03:24:41,160 --> 03:24:45,810
She's supplied this one by the
guy as she gets a proposal for

3429
03:24:45,810 --> 03:24:48,060
marriage as she gets out of the
hospital and

3430
03:24:48,060 --> 03:24:50,940
Unknown: story to brighten your
morning one woman celebrates

3431
03:24:50,940 --> 03:24:54,510
completing her final round of
chemo treatments and got a huge

3432
03:24:54,510 --> 03:25:01,800
surprise this video Oh that
you're looking at is going viral

3433
03:25:01,800 --> 03:25:05,670
showing 27 year old Angelica Mae
walking out of the hospital

3434
03:25:05,880 --> 03:25:09,900
after finally beating stage two
breast cancer. Now that's

3435
03:25:09,900 --> 03:25:12,270
already going to be an
unforgettable day for her. But

3436
03:25:12,270 --> 03:25:15,570
it's what happened next. That
has people on social media

3437
03:25:15,570 --> 03:25:16,800
buzzing watch.

3438
03:25:18,060 --> 03:25:19,050
Grand healing

3439
03:25:28,590 --> 03:25:31,560
Adam Curry: so I just want to
say right, I love you know, one

3440
03:25:32,250 --> 03:25:33,540
book. We married

3441
03:25:37,980 --> 03:25:42,150
Unknown: Goodness How sweet.
That is so, so sweet. And of

3442
03:25:42,150 --> 03:25:46,110
course, she said yes. Hey, and
if you would like to send us

3443
03:25:46,110 --> 03:25:48,840
your good news story of the day,
just email us your pictures and

3444
03:25:48,840 --> 03:25:52,830
your videos. To Good day. Good.
news@fox.com

3445
03:25:52,890 --> 03:25:55,080
Adam Curry: That's right. Good
day. Good news that no agenda

3446
03:25:55,080 --> 03:25:55,830
show dotnet.

3447
03:25:55,890 --> 03:25:59,190
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Mimi
pointed out that what kind of a

3448
03:25:59,190 --> 03:26:02,430
douchebag asked her to get
married after she's cured of

3449
03:26:02,430 --> 03:26:04,080
cancer. That's

3450
03:26:04,080 --> 03:26:11,970
Adam Curry: what he made me
would say rescue his home in

3451
03:26:11,970 --> 03:26:13,950
heavy rain

3452
03:26:19,170 --> 03:26:22,650
as it for your good news, and it
was good news. I mean, yeah, I

3453
03:26:22,650 --> 03:26:28,140
mean, I understand what she's
saying. But don't throw any. Any

3454
03:26:28,140 --> 03:26:31,230
hot coals on my goodness, shake
the throw

3455
03:26:31,230 --> 03:26:32,880
John C Dvorak: shade. And the
good news is

3456
03:26:37,650 --> 03:26:41,010
Adam Curry: we've got good news
coming up. Next on the stream

3457
03:26:41,010 --> 03:26:46,530
grime America. That's the boys
from Canada Navia. Unveiling the

3458
03:26:46,530 --> 03:26:49,950
unseen science of upside while
you know you need to stay tuned

3459
03:26:49,950 --> 03:26:53,490
for that one. You can do that at
troll. room.io no agenda

3460
03:26:53,490 --> 03:26:57,540
stream.com on that modern
podcast app, you got it podcast

3461
03:26:57,540 --> 03:27:02,790
apps.com and of show mixes from
Professor Jay Jones, Stephen Jo

3462
03:27:03,120 --> 03:27:08,010
Jacobson, and Mr. Leola puke.
They always delight all three of

3463
03:27:08,010 --> 03:27:11,280
those guys. Thank you very much
for joining us for your bi

3464
03:27:11,280 --> 03:27:14,790
weekly or twice a week media
deconstruction, coming to you

3465
03:27:14,790 --> 03:27:17,850
from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country right here in

3466
03:27:17,850 --> 03:27:23,370
Fredericksburg, home of the
totality. On April 8 In the

3467
03:27:23,370 --> 03:27:24,870
morning, everybody, I'm Adam
curry.

3468
03:27:25,290 --> 03:27:27,510
John C Dvorak: And from Northern
Silicon Valley. I'm John C.

3469
03:27:27,510 --> 03:27:28,110
Dvorak. We

3470
03:27:28,110 --> 03:27:32,280
Adam Curry: returned on Sunday,
Easter Sunday. So join us if you

3471
03:27:32,280 --> 03:27:37,590
can. We're working we're
working. That's right. Remember

3472
03:27:37,590 --> 03:27:41,430
us at no agenda
donations.com devora.org/na

3473
03:27:41,430 --> 03:27:44,190
Until then, adios mofos who we
who we answered.

3474
03:27:45,480 --> 03:27:49,020
Unknown: In Mississippi six
former law enforcement officers

3475
03:27:49,050 --> 03:27:52,140
Brett McAlpin, Jeffrey
Middleton, Christian Deadman

3476
03:27:52,140 --> 03:27:55,920
Hunter Aylward, Daniel Updike
and Joshua Hartfield each enter

3477
03:27:55,920 --> 03:27:59,190
the Rankin County Courthouse
risk shackles to their waist in

3478
03:27:59,190 --> 03:28:03,210
jail suits. Those six officers
pleaded guilty once again. This

3479
03:28:03,210 --> 03:28:05,160
time to st charges have

3480
03:28:05,160 --> 03:28:10,110
received prison terms that add
up to more than 130 years it had

3481
03:28:10,110 --> 03:28:14,520
no warrant when they went to
arrest or to torture the guys in

3482
03:28:14,520 --> 03:28:17,760
the house. It was simply because
they were in a house with a

3483
03:28:17,760 --> 03:28:21,240
white female and mocking,
beating and torturing them for

3484
03:28:21,240 --> 03:28:25,530
more than an hour. That included
the use of stun guns and sexual

3485
03:28:25,530 --> 03:28:29,610
assault with a sex toy that you
build. Those are hideous and

3486
03:28:29,610 --> 03:28:33,360
Michael is the former officers
called themselves a goon squad

3487
03:28:33,360 --> 03:28:37,710
because of their tendency to use
excessive force and then cover

3488
03:28:37,710 --> 03:28:38,010
it up.

3489
03:28:38,100 --> 03:28:40,800
Prosecutors today describe the
heinous acts that occurred

3490
03:28:40,800 --> 03:28:43,920
during the raid on a Brexit home
the depravity of

3491
03:28:43,920 --> 03:28:47,310
the crimes committed by these
defendants cannot be overstated

3492
03:28:47,940 --> 03:28:52,020
his private parts in an attempt
to put it in the mouth of a

3493
03:28:52,020 --> 03:28:54,750
defense is so much secrecy not
only

3494
03:28:54,750 --> 03:28:58,350
did they torture them they were
trying to plant drugs they

3495
03:28:58,350 --> 03:28:59,610
destroyed evidence get

3496
03:28:59,610 --> 03:29:05,700
some dignity realize that people
are still a man's hands down

3497
03:29:06,810 --> 03:29:11,760
perhaps graft is holding hands
and making sure

3498
03:29:14,640 --> 03:29:18,450
do you understand I don't think
the Senate tools are in fact I

3499
03:29:18,450 --> 03:29:21,210
think these men should all spend
the rest of their lives behind

3500
03:29:21,210 --> 03:29:25,410
bars okay then if you do the
crime you gonna do to try and

3501
03:29:25,410 --> 03:29:33,930
stop a US deal those things not
work. Spoon Western Australia

3502
03:29:33,930 --> 03:29:37,650
has used a secret actually. A
sticky with the oil relief to

3503
03:29:37,650 --> 03:29:42,600
test and growls triggering a
food AMI stinky been brutally

3504
03:29:42,600 --> 03:29:55,110
effective. Still processing
everything. Fake news we're

3505
03:29:55,110 --> 03:29:57,180
trying to make this 15 year olds
enough

3506
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:02,040
Pasadena blast

3507
03:30:04,980 --> 03:30:14,760
definitely wasn't expecting to
see that Eclipse Ross so I mean

3508
03:30:14,760 --> 03:30:18,930
this is obviously offensive for
for people who study these and

3509
03:30:18,930 --> 03:30:21,210
I'm wondering whether there's
just a lightning aspect you're

3510
03:30:21,210 --> 03:30:24,210
being tracked by these killers
and maybe that's why you put

3511
03:30:25,500 --> 03:30:29,610
them whales I'm guessing the
bows versus whales would be

3512
03:30:31,140 --> 03:30:32,160
yes yeah

3513
03:30:36,570 --> 03:30:39,480
we're traveling this 15 year
olds in hospital

3514
03:30:47,460 --> 03:30:54,360
fascinating blast. Thank you so
much. I know banning anymore.

3515
03:30:55,170 --> 03:30:59,970
Forever NBC fake news, which is
all up in arms about hiring

3516
03:31:00,060 --> 03:31:04,770
Ronna Romney McDaniel, the
former RNC chair, Michael

3517
03:31:04,770 --> 03:31:09,750
Steele, who is also former RNC
chair works at MSDN seem to

3518
03:31:10,020 --> 03:31:14,250
chunk former Democrat campaign
staffers whose wife is a Bernie

3519
03:31:14,250 --> 03:31:16,170
Sanders campaign staffer.

3520
03:31:16,290 --> 03:31:18,180
She is now a paid contributor.

3521
03:31:18,420 --> 03:31:20,790
I have no idea whether any
answer she gave to you was

3522
03:31:20,790 --> 03:31:23,130
because she didn't want to mess
up her country.

3523
03:31:23,970 --> 03:31:32,820
Higher. Higher, higher rung by
Ron. Ron. Ron Higher, higher.

3524
03:31:34,230 --> 03:31:45,570
Higher. Higher, higher, higher.
Higher prana. Now,

3525
03:31:45,960 --> 03:31:49,800
get her off the set. Chairman of
the NBC Universal News Group

3526
03:31:49,800 --> 03:31:50,640
Cesar Conde

3527
03:31:50,670 --> 03:31:54,420
sent a memo, rescinding hiring
of Ronna Romney McDaniel.

3528
03:32:04,620 --> 03:32:10,830
forrec.org/in a good word there.
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