Unknown: Hong Kong, Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: December 28 2023 This Year Award winning given
each media assassination episode 1620. This is no agenda, rolling
out the yellow flags and broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here in the region number six in the
morning, everybody. Adam curry and
John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody
agrees that perhaps the dumbest show on TV and perhaps the worst
in the history of television is the masked singer. I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Adam Curry: You got to talk to Marty, because you already did
that opening.
John C Dvorak: I did it again.
Adam Curry: Why did you do it again?
John C Dvorak: That show is so bad. It needs to have been
people need to be reminded. Well,
Adam Curry: what are you doing watching it? Why you're even
anyway? Why are you even on those channels?
John C Dvorak: I'm looking for new stories. Wow, man.
Adam Curry: No, no, no, just say no. Stay away from that stuff.
It's not healthy for you. Now
John C Dvorak: they have a whole slew of spin offs.
Adam Curry: Hey, speaking of I had a vision. had a vision. I
think I figured it out for something you've been asking for
for a long time. Okay,
John C Dvorak: but wait, let me ask a question in advance. Was
this vision in a vivid dream? No.
Adam Curry: No, it was not in a vivid dream. It was as I was
going to sleep last night. It's it came over me like a warm
blanket.
John C Dvorak: You sure that was it was a liquid?
Adam Curry: No. Come on, man. I figured it out. I know how to do
it. The no agenda Podcast Awards. Ah, it's
John C Dvorak: about time you've come around,
Adam Curry: also known as the goats. Okay, yeah.
John C Dvorak: You know, the funny thing is, uh huh. That's
interesting. You'd say that because goats is commonly used
in sports a lot. And it'd be great a popular phrase about
greatest a decade ago, but I don't know that it's been used
as an award base. No, no, I you may have stumbled onto something
here that goats
Adam Curry: I told you a vision the goats because of course, you
know, you have to you have to have the award has to have a
name. So no agenda Podcast Awards is one thing. And maybe I
don't know if we want to call it the no agenda Podcast Awards, or
just the the Podcast Awards. But our our award itself is called a
goat. Yeah, not the go t no, no, not the goat cheese. No, the
goats. It's just the goats. Now, here's how it works. Because
this is the most important part. How do we differentiate
ourselves.
John C Dvorak: And I'm feel so good about planting a seed.
Adam Curry: Well, like a little mustard seed, it grew into an
enormous tree, John, you have done your business.
John C Dvorak: Mustard doesn't grow into a tree and go on.
Adam Curry: So we don't have traditional categories. We just
have awards. And it is the producers of the no agenda show,
which means you have to have at least donated once doesn't
matter what amount. And we can work on this later. But that's
just what in my in my vision, the producers send in the
awards. And it's clips. So you have to be able to clip and I'm
seeing awards such as Best vocal fry in a podcast. Most use No,
no most words use of the word right in a podcast. Funniest
handoff from Hey, hey, girl, hey, hi, hey, hey, best
transition to an ad read gold, best native ad? Gold, this, this
would be fantastic. This is why people would love our awards.
What do you think?
John C Dvorak: I mean, we still have no I have no immediate
complaints. We still choose the award becomes it becomes. But I
don't want to deteriorate into the raspberries. No,
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no. Hey, the best vocal fry. That's not
easy to do in a podcast that takes talent, especially
John C Dvorak: if you're going to sustain it. Yes. So so and
they probably deserve an award because they're going to be
going to ruin their vocal cords. So
Adam Curry: the so the producers send in their clips, their
nominees, we of course, like all good awards, we do whatever we
want. And the way awards work, we'll still we'll still have
some consultant come out and say, Well, I've tallied all the
votes, you know, with a little suitcase. You know, it's in
here. No one knows the results. But of course, we know you know,
how it works. Of course, we know the results. And then we do an
award show. And I think we can we can do a pretty fun job with
that. And maybe we get some I don't know. I mean, the
production of the show itself. I'm not there yet, but Just the
basic concept. Is all of these things that are that make
podcasting so unique?
John C Dvorak: Well, the thing is, is it would be a there's no
categories. Be open ended. Yep. And you can get given a word for
the longest podcast in the history of podcasting. Well,
yeah, you I think we already won. We
Adam Curry: were on deck for winning the goat for that. Then
everyone gets a goat. You win the goat and you can already
hear it'd be a goat head. Yeah, of course. You know how that's
gonna work. It's obvious, you know, it's about plastic.
John C Dvorak: It should be plastic, a
Adam Curry: plastic goat. Yeah. And I think there's plenty of
great nominations that people can consent in. And but all
those things that, you know, the most profane.
John C Dvorak: Oh, the guys who can't stop cussing and stuff
Adam Curry: like that, you know? Best. Best NAT pops.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, there's very few podcasts.
Right. And well, that's true, but it does.
Adam Curry: We do a great job. We do a great job. Ah, okay,
cool. Good. I'm glad you can like that. I'm excited. I'm
excited. Hey, I'm
John C Dvorak: glad you came up with it. That means you're on
board.
Adam Curry: I hope everybody had a merry Christmas. I know that I
had a great Christmas. We had one of the human resources and
our boyfriend here. That was great. And I made double dip
depression slaves to for the day after Christmas, which everybody
loved. If you've never heard of that. It's a no agenda staple.
I've published the link to the, to the recipe in the show notes.
Of course, the Dvorak family celebrates traditionally on the
29th of December. No, actually,
John C Dvorak: traditionally, we actually celebrate on the first
first of January, which is which was done in the 14th and 15th,
or the 15th and 16th century by the two doors, they would always
do it on the first and we feel this is more traditional. We
might we believe in a traditional Christmas. So we do
our gifts on the first of January.
Adam Curry: And are they doing it all at your place? Or where's
it taken? Everyone's gonna be here. Oh, that's nice, Eric, as
well as you come on up from SD
John C Dvorak: now. Eric's got his he says he's snowed in. Oh,
he won't be able to come down. Of course, of course, to South
Dakota. Oh my god, we're starting to talk like South
Dakota.
Adam Curry: That's a really he's doing that now. No, not yet.
John C Dvorak: But it's coming. Well, I
Adam Curry: thought I mean, there's a lot of news,
obviously, I thought the the funniest and the most
interesting and entertaining. And I have some some clips is
the story that just tickles me. We
Unknown: had some news just coming in this morning, the New
York Times suing open AI, the creator of chat GPT, and
Microsoft for copyright infringement. The time says
millions of its articles were used to train chat bots that now
compete with the times as a source of information, the
papers, the defendants should be liable for billions of dollars
in damages. Microsoft is an investor in open AI and has
incorporated the technology into its Bing search actual
big story. I don't know how they thought they're gonna get away
with it. But
you've seen the New York Times is maybe the biggest name in
journalism so far to come out with this. But we've seen the
concern from the actors and the writers when they were making
sure that eye protection was written
out that her novel was one of 30,000 ingested into a loan.
Does she get paid for that? Should she be paid for that? I
don't know the answer. Well,
the New York Times is it saying yes, we use very strong
copyright laws in this country,
Adam Curry: very strong copyright laws and well, that
what are you hemming and hawing about saying bull crap? What are
you talking about? You see the lawsuit?
John C Dvorak: I don't care about this. If I didn't have to
see the lawsuit. What's the damages? Tell me? Oh, no,
there's definitely no there's no damn Oh damages? What are no,
there's no daily damages. What's the damage? Name damage? Well,
okay.
Adam Curry: First of all, I've looked at the lawsuit, which is
interesting, because you can see that not just a couple of lines,
but like entire paragraphs are literally just from the New York
Times reporting. What they're saying is that Silicon Valley
companies are paying for news in many countries, most notably
Canada. Navia. And I believe Australia. And there's your
damages. So you're now taking it for free and giving away for
free in the chat bots. I think there's a case there. And you're
the one that said that this was going to be the biggest lawsuits
of the of the all time would be around this
John C Dvorak: kitchen. I can't mock it. I'm not saying I didn't
say that. Because what Now, and I went on about this before,
which is that you everybody wants everything digitized, it
was going to be the great in the 70s and 80s. As all they talked
about the Giants information at your fingers, tip information,
your fingertips, kind of muck, the trend, and everything was
going to be digitized. And once they Google in particular
started digitizing assorted Microsoft than ever, we got all
up in Oh, they digitize my old book from 20 years ago that I
haven't gotten 10 cents in royalties from for the last
decade, but now I'm getting ripped off. Bull crap. Right.
Adam Curry: But I think the New York Times has a different angle
here. I
John C Dvorak: know what their angle, you know, their angle is.
I'm not buying it still. I hate to say that I'm gonna I'm not
gonna say it again.
Adam Curry: No, you really shouldn't. Because it's just not
it's not I'm not gonna.
John C Dvorak: I'm not no, I'm reckoning because I don't like
the phrase. But But what is
Adam Curry: interesting is fair use, which is, you know, this is
what the AI companies are claiming. And fair use is, you
know, it's probably about time this is properly examined.
John C Dvorak: I understand the fair use issue. And I think it's
an important one. But this idea that they found a whole
paragraphs that were ripped off. I'm not believing it.
Adam Curry: Absolutely true. What are you talking about? It's
absolutely true. I went,
John C Dvorak: and here's the reason you train the AI
yourself. You've done it, and you end up pulling some full
graphs out. This is not the normal thing that's going to
happen.
Adam Curry: Hey, why don't you go sit with Microsoft, you
heathen? What are you why are you on the side of these guys,
all of a sudden?
John C Dvorak: I'm on this side of what's right. They
Adam Curry: that these large language models are literally
taken they suck to hear stories than just spouting and back this
and with no change.
John C Dvorak: If that's the case, then yes, you have an
issue, but that's what
Adam Curry: I'm saying they have these examples. In the lawsuit,
they're showing these example.
John C Dvorak: Yes, I know. But I might believe in these samples
or
Adam Curry: look at grok. If you if you ask grog tell me about
John C. Dvorak on Twitter, you will say tweets that you
recognize word for word of people saying You're horrible.
You will recognize the the exact language this is this is what's
so interesting is that it is a direct copy this direct copy.
John C Dvorak: Well, if what you say is absolutely true, without
any fudging or grok for God's say what a dog rat thing is,
then yeah, okay. Yes. Go knock yourself out, but it's not going
to help things and what about art? How you going to deal with
that?
Adam Curry: Well, what listen, if you go on Twitter, you sign a
perpetual license over to x.com x Inc. That they can do whatever
they want with what you post there. So that's not a problem.
That's that you have already given away a license for them to
suck that into grok. But the New York Times has not given anyone
a license to suck that into Google above copilot the
Microsoft and have that spit back when you're writing a
PowerPoint present. I
John C Dvorak: wish you all luck in the world in this lawsuit
Adam Curry: the the four points that are substantive
John C Dvorak: you yeah okay. Whose side are you on in this
lawsuit? I'm I'm
Adam Curry: on the side of the New York Times. I think they're
right. I really do. Why would I be on the side of stupid ai i
think it's stupid it's not interesting. It's not
intelligent it's
John C Dvorak: stupid AI is not intelligent Fishel stupidity as
is as
Adam Curry: it's a scam to get you know to fill up compute
cycles it's bad for the environment.
John C Dvorak: It is here's let's see. So is Bitcoin mining
Adam Curry: I might add oh don't get me started on things you
John C Dvorak: know nothing about young man itch all I know
is I really started doing coin it's gonna kill us all well,
Adam Curry: it'll kill you first. A sack the two are
actually related. Because the Bitcoin miners you know, there's
ASICs very specific chips that they use for Bitcoin mining they
are they're all now looking to creating AI chips which once
this AI bubble burst and everyone figures out it's a
humongous stupid scam. These AI chips will be turned right
around and be super efficient for Bitcoin mining. It's gonna
be great because there's just going to be all this compute
laying around that no one wants to use more.
John C Dvorak: The ducks. Yeah, there's animals that are going
to be hurt by this climate change and my goodness caused by
all this oh my god, mind you going to bed
Adam Curry: and get up again. You're on the wrong side of
history.
John C Dvorak: You're on the right side of history. Let's
Adam Curry: let's In the CBS they had they had an interesting
conversation. Maybe we can mock them.
Unknown: The New York Times has just filed a potentially
important lawsuit against Microsoft and open AI claiming
their artificial intelligence chat bots are taking web traffic
away from the papers on website. Senior Business and tech
correspondent Jolene Kent joins us now and Jolene. Good morning
to you. Can
you dive in and tell us with this out? Yeah, JB Good morning.
This is a real pivotal moment for AI. The New York Times is
the first major media company to sue Microsoft and open AI, the
maker of chat GPT for copyright infringement, using millions of
times articles to train its chat bots, which now compete and they
can compete directly with the newspaper. Now, this complaint
was filed in the Southern District of New York. And It
alleges that both companies are taking a quote, free ride on the
times that massive investment in its journalism by using it to
build substitutive products without permission or payment.
Now the lawsuit specifically names chat GPT and Microsoft's
Bing chat and says that while they engaged in widescale
copying from many sources, they gave times content particular
emphasis now Microsoft declining to comment to CBS News, but open
AI did send us this statement saying in part, we respect the
rights of content creators and owners and are committed to
working with them. Our ongoing conversations with the New York
Times have been productive and moving forward constructively.
So we are surprised and disappointed with this
developers
John C Dvorak: like that, always like this. I'm surprised and
disappointed.
Adam Curry: Well, you know, Apple is is now they've they've
released news that they are exploring a ideals with news
publishers you want apple is going to come out ahead on this
after being the laggard, because they're just gonna go and
license it. And this This, by the way, is not anything
intelligent. This just oh, it's like a big database. Oh, give me
the latest news on this topic. it'll spit it back. And we all
go whoo, whoo. Hey, I Whoo, that's so impressive. They
continue this conversation, CBS about the impact of the
lawsuits, which is what you'd be interested in
Unknown: joing. Help me understand what kind of impact
could this lawsuit have? Yeah,
depending on what the court finds it could force AI
companies to change the way they train their artificial
intelligence, which are called those large language models,
that there are big legal questions whether the facts that
make up the New York Times reporting are even eligible for
copyright to begin with Harvard Law Professor Lawrence Lessig
told me on the phone yesterday that AI is use of the New York
Times reporting may actually fall under the doctrine of fair
use, that's a legal defense that are used copyrighted material,
maybe he's without permission under certain circumstances.
Now, of course, this could undercut the times his argument
against open AI and Microsoft, by the way, guys, this is not
the first lawsuit we've seen from copyright holders. We've
seen book authors, comedians, major music companies, they've
all sued generative AI companies for similar types of concerns
about how they're training our models. And meantime, we've seen
other news media companies strike business partnerships
with open AI to license news stories, but it could be
billions of dollars of damages on the line here,
Adam Curry: you guys, you guys. So that's where the problem
comes in fair use, which is interest is interesting to us,
too. I mean, this, us playing this, we consider that to be
fair use, which I think we can defend. But
John C Dvorak: but we're playing this as a more traditional, yes.
Well established Fair Use principles. Yes. Yes. Let's just
play the the thing that's going on now with the AI is not
established as fair use principles. So it has the
correct term and by a court. Yeah. And I think if I think if
Lessig is, he's kind of go ahead. Well, he's the guy who
started Creative Commons. I know the ID. I know. I know. Pretty
much let everything be let the information must be freezed and
grew
Adam Curry: up. That's not true. I defend Creative Commons in
court and one. Yeah, Creative Commons is not about Let
everything be free. It's no
John C Dvorak: but that's his mentality. He would like it to
be freed. No. Creative Commons does have some restrictions. And
you did win a case the
Adam Curry: case. First picture first case,
John C Dvorak: there's a mate. Yeah, you're a groundbreaker.
That's why everyone hates you
Adam Curry: that's why I'm poor. You
John C Dvorak: stole MTV and then you got this lawsuit and
you know, you're never gonna get have friends. So so the design
is is that somebody stole a photo of you when you were I
think smoking pot in a plane or some I can't remember some
screwy. Yeah. And close use use use. You totally took them to
court over there. I think with some European publication.
They're just right. ag willy nilly stealing stuff took it
off. You put a stop to it good for you. I'd ever wanted to
congratulate you. Yeah. Well, thank
Adam Curry: you for that. But Lawrence Lessig back me up in
that. So he wasn't all I mean the whole time.
John C Dvorak: I know Lord, Lord, Larry Larry. Yeah, right.
Well,
Adam Curry: okay. Well, I know him. I know him quite well.
John C Dvorak: He had lunch with him.
Adam Curry: He, he's had a sleepover at my house once Does
that count? Okay.
Unknown: It was really fascinating reporting, because
the fair use doctrine of media is one that is employed across
media industrialism, you know, where you say, hey, there's
something that was reported by another news organization, we're
going to show it to you. We're going to credit that news
organization. It's a very legal. It's
really, though about the investment that these companies
buy into. Well, I think we have to have a better understanding,
though, of how these all work.
Adam Curry: All right. They don't even know themselves the
dummies. Have no idea. No idea. There was just fun stuff out
there. What can I do while away
John C Dvorak: we just stopped for say, we have to mention
we're working today. And we're working on New Year's Eve and
all the show I was I would just flip it around and maybe get a
last minute clip this one I turn on the wood out number this show
on Fox where they have
Adam Curry: Wow, you went from the the masked singer to
outnumbered No wonder you're cranky.
John C Dvorak: So I'm watching out number. There's not one
person on their sub Tammy Bruce, who kind of you know, couldn't
be on vacation, but she's kind of on vacation most of the time.
Does that note? Nobody? It's just all, you know, leftovers.
It's terrible. Beatbox. We'll put anybody on
Adam Curry: that we don't have a beat Team. We don't have a beat
Team. That's That's why we need the Podcast Awards. So we could
get a beat. We could take take it, we could produce the show
and take the day off. That's what we what is the point of the
no agenda Podcast Awards. So we can take a day off and just roll
the tape and have a pre produce
John C Dvorak: show. That's how we get into a separate and above
the Oh, wow.
Adam Curry: So I just created more work for us.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you did get. I was getting surprised.
Adam Curry: I just said it was a couple of weeks before we leave
the AI thing that was something else that I was gonna say about
this? Oh, yes. The Tony Blair Institute, which came out with
its 10 policy priorities for global leaders in 2024.
John C Dvorak: What the hell's the Tony Blair Institute? Well,
it's
Adam Curry: clearly before, but you know, they give advice to
leaders to Tony Blair's a player Tony Blair. Oh, yeah, he's a
player.
John C Dvorak: He's a player. Yeah.
Adam Curry: I mean, hey, look, he's a lot smarter than we are.
He's making money off. bullcrap. So number five policymakers
maintain momentum on AI, even if even if public interest dips.
And he says Big changes are Colet, the bottom here it is.
Big changes are coming, even if they are not evident right now.
So policymakers should keep working on the deployment and
regulation of AI. And in particular act fast to ensure
access to compute capacity, their country needs to compete.
So
John C Dvorak: what are these big changes he's talking about?
If he if he says Big changes are coming, he must have an inkling
of what these changes might be? What are they?
Adam Curry: You know that he doesn't need to say that he's
Tony Blair? But he's doing it?
John C Dvorak: Yes. No. So He's clueless. He's just throwing out
memes. I know what he does
Adam Curry: is he sells you a contract to Microsoft Azure.
That's what he's doing here. Hello, public services. He's,
John C Dvorak: he's become a middleman for Microsoft
services. Yes. Yes.
Adam Curry: And Google let us do public service, six public
services start to serve the people that I gotta read this
graph. Countries are experimenting in different ways
with applying technology to public services to make them
more user friendly, responsive and efficient. But stop.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so when I was a kid, and I was going to
University of California, Berkeley, we're already good.
We're a clued in everybody was the big deal was and this was
back in the day. And it continues. The United States is
going to very slowly evolved from being a manufacturing
company to a service company where everything's gonna be
service. Yeah, service service service, like right, so Well, no
deputy, almost any kind of service. I think the peak of
service end, I think peak service ended with a product
called WordPerfect, which was a word processor that came out out
of Utah and the they had a service department you could
call them get anything answered, read aloud.
Adam Curry: WordPerfect 4.2. That was the standard.
John C Dvorak: It was actually the probably the biggest word
das legal standard
Adam Curry: for my company, public and 96. It was The
John C Dvorak: big deal and of course they get bought out
fooled into something fooled into something else next thing
you know that Microsoft products run in everything but there is
no service so the garbage This is garbage week. I thought it's
if they're gonna move the garbage in they're starting to
pick up garbage this morning and I'm saying wait a minute this
was to move it up a week I call them I'm on hold forever to a
recording and don't forget then your put your bags and the bags
and the bags, and it goes on and on and on. Nobody ever picks up
I have to finally hang up. It's like you. You can't even get to
a receptionist anymore because there are no receptionist has
all these machines and press two if you wrote Have you speak
Spanish is unbelievable. Ours we suck at service. We're the
country's going down the tubes because of this.
Adam Curry: Well, I disagree respectfully. Because I love
saying because that means fu basically Fu Fu so we are live
in unincorporated Fredericksburg. We're right
outside city services, so we don't get any service from the
city. However, for $92 A quarter, which is $30 a month,
we have Gillespie Waste Services. And they they call me
they say hey, we're gonna come on Tuesday today after
Christmas. If I forgot to put up my trash one day I caught text
the guy he's like, no problem. We'll swing back on the way home
we'll pick it up then for you service. Perfect service.
John C Dvorak: One example out of 1000s genuinely
Adam Curry: transformative progress relies on connecting
the many silos of information to deliver proactive support to the
people who need it. reducing waste there you go, while
maximizing while maximizing service value. This requires a
common infrastructure and identity system. Yeah, Tony you
tell them that's what they want identity system. Yes, yes.
Hello, citizen. Devorah like what's your ID number? You want
Hey, remember Lotus jazz? Oh, yeah, that was Lotus jazz man
that that was that was the sweet that was the sweet you needed to
have mm hmm
John C Dvorak: was it Lotus jazz the incorporating there was one
version of their spreadsheet that was open ended they just
throw numbers on the screen and it would put it there was no
cells remember that that product? There were candles that
were falling in love with that thing and they couldn't sustain
it? I don't know what why it died but it died completely
Well,
Adam Curry: what I remember is you had to insert your original
disk every single time to run it and eventually those floppies
the three and a half inch floppies just didn't work
anymore and so you lose your access to the program that's
what I remember Lotus jazz being a problem yeah, because people
might copy it you know steal it Please steal Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's no good was like the keys remember that
USB key how many
Adam Curry: keys yet is sticking a key for everything? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: a while
Adam Curry: was no good. None of those good. That was good.
Anyway, we have a new freakout happening online, which is of
course something that I love to research this was truly truly
amazing the text messages were flying people are posting about
this everywhere. I have two examples guys, this you know
whenever a cute blonde starts off with Oh guys, guys, guys,
something's going on. Guys,
Unknown: guys. This is truly insane. T Mobile has just
updated their terms of service and now if you post any content
they don't agree with they will find you and they have an
acronym called shaft. This stands for alcohol, firearms and
tobacco. This is going to be implemented on January 1, and
the finds that they will find you is in the 1000s I had no
idea that we lived in China. Since when does it company get
to determine what you are allowed to talk about in a
private text message to a friend. This should not only
disturb you but this should make you want to take action. If you
have TMobile switch now and if they are doing this How long do
you think it's going to be before they start fact checking
our text messages? Oh, this
Adam Curry: is an outrage. They're fact they're gonna fact
check our messages. They're reading our text messages. You
gotta drop T Mobile right now. And of course we all know this
is really Joe Biden
Unknown: breaking news.
Adam Curry: I love people who think that they're breaking news
when they're on tick tock breaking
Unknown: news, breaking news right here in Jo vi He's
America, he's allowed major cell phone provider T Mobile, to read
your private text messages and find you up to $3,500. If you
say mean things they don't like. It's called shaft is a system
they're using their human Shemitah. Shad is saying stands
for some acronym that stands for six hate alcohol, farms and
tobacco. It outlines the categories of text messages,
specifically regulated due to moral and legal issues and is
monitored and enforced by the cellular telephone Industries
Association. This will all begin on January 1 2024. You know,
like, I know, they're going to target conservatives. They're
going to target anybody that was that went about getting that
forced medical procedure. They're gonna talk to anybody
that questions. Anytime that targeting, if you question
anything government, they're going to target you, they're
going to find you up to $3,500. Now they're saying that is to
prevent porn, guns, illegal drugs, all of that they snuck in
that one word, the Democrats love hate speech. And you know,
like, I know, hate speech is nothing more than pro Trump,
anti Joe Biden, there it is anti Democrat, pro conservative.
That's hate speech as far as these major corporations go.
Adam Curry: And this guy just goes on and on. So just just
hearing this, John, from your breaking news source on tick
tock, what is your takeaway that you think is happening here with
this shaft?
John C Dvorak: Well, obviously the I mean, this is unfamiliar
to me, but it's obvious by the name shaft that is done is
somebody did this as a joke, but I think it might have actually
been directed by Verizon or some dirty tricks operation one of
the other companies.
Adam Curry: Interestingly enough, this has already been in
place since 2022. And it is a part of the US telecom carriers
association agreement. So this is across the board. So it's not
new. It's just you know, someone saw T Mobile update their terms
of service. And they went into on freakout mode. Shaft isn't it
isn't real accurate is called shaft it is yes, sex, hate
alcohol, firearms, tobacco, but it's not between users. It is
for the A to P application. So if you pay T Mobile to text
people, you know, such as Governor Greg Abbott does to me.
That's what an A to P application is. So they've set
rules in place for what you can basically
John C Dvorak: Yes, yeah. For advertisers. Yes.
Adam Curry: Exactly. This is nothing, nothing new. Nothing. I
mean, I love the shaft acronym. That's funny. Yes, pretty
dubious in Canada. No, it's I have all the documents it'd be
John C Dvorak: just saying Why would you come up with a acronym
like that?
Adam Curry: Well, that's somebody having a drink at the
meeting and having some fun, obviously, but it has nothing to
do with your text messages to your friends or anything like
that. But everyone flies off.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, it could happen
Adam Curry: though. But but here's the joke of it. Focus on
that you numbnuts the government has everything you send anyway.
Who are you kidding it's it's it's published it's known the
NSA has every single text message a recording ever
John C Dvorak: make a phone call? I'm down in Utah with
Denver Now all they have to
Adam Curry: do is just type in your number and up comes all
your information. People are so your texts stupid. And then just
everyone's free?
John C Dvorak: Nobody ever complains about this, of course.
Adam Curry: Isn't that beautiful? And of course I'm
sure AT and T and Verizon are loving it. Oh, yeah. Canceled T
Mobile were the good guys show. Don't tell anybody, if
hilarious. Hilarious how the just everyone freaks out over
this. And it propagate. No one took three seconds to read what
it was about. And this is from no agenda people to. Yeah, well
on that, in that vein, save the world in that vein. The Missouri
versus Biden lawsuit. This has gone to the Supreme Court. This
is about the government telling social media companies to censor
posts to take accounts down particularly during COVID and of
course during Trump, and we expected that there would be
some amicus briefs over this. While there were 19 amicus
briefs, EB two, actually, in support of the government.
John C Dvorak: Explain what that is to people who don't know.
Adam Curry: So an amicus brief in this case the Supreme Court
is eventually probably a couple of years down the road. It is
going to make a decision and say, You know what the
government read the Biden administration specifically, but
also parts of the Trump administration violated your
first amendment right as the government by sense by telling
commercial companies threatening them, you better take that down,
or we just might have to do something about section 203. And
that might ruin your business. So that, of course, is a blatant
violation of the First Amendment. So an amicus brief is
interested parties who, for whatever reason, have an
interest in this process, either never happening again or
continuing to happen. So they send in a friend of the court
letter, amicus brief. So we have two that are that are all for
it, they think is really good, including the Lawyers Committee
for Civil Rights Under Law, common cause and leadership, the
conference on civil and human rights. They said, they suggest
the First Amendment exists to allow the government to protect
its own people from harassment and to prevent private citizens
from making false statements. They actually put that into an
amicus brief and send it to the Supreme Court. Wow. Then no
surprise, this group, the American Academy of Pediatrics,
American Medical Association, American Academy of Family
Physicians, American College of Physicians and American
Geriatric Society. They say, well, they, according to our
constitutional lawyer, Rob, this brief takes no position on where
the government improperly coerce the platforms. It addresses only
whether that coercion actually violated the First Amendment.
That is whether Biden and CO had a compelling interest to squash
private citizen speech, it argues that a compelling
interest indeed existed, because approved vaccines are safe and
effective. Can you believe it? Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: can't believe me,
Adam Curry: the audacity.
John C Dvorak: They just never let up. They see the lawsuits
looming in this nun. And we're going to keep this going to I
just
Adam Curry: find it amazing, amazing that they that they that
they say these things.
John C Dvorak: Anyway, there are people I think the majority of
the public as a matter of fact, that will lead to the death,
which could be any minute for them. That the vaccines are safe
and effective.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. That's SIOP worked very well. It
really, in fact, I have a I think I have a report here.
Yeah, this is a short one. That just to prove your point short
one
Unknown: from the flu to COVID. It's that time of year when more
people get sick. But a new study reveals the biggest risk for
children. RSV researchers found kids are far more likely to be
hospitalized for RSV than for the flu or COVID. The study
looked at nearly 2600 children and found kids with RSV were 11
times more likely to be hospitalized and kids with
COVID. The CDC says the study confirms the importance of
vaccines.
Adam Curry: So the study is not about vaccines. It just confirms
vaccines are important. Your CDC, the people are supposed to
protect you
John C Dvorak: know that I could have protected you had to be a
clip, put a smile on my face. I'm
Adam Curry: glad that it did. Hey, just just to wrap this up.
It's kind of back and forth here. But as of January 1,
Mickey Mouse, the original Steamboat Willie, Mickey Mouse,
I think will finally enter the public domain. Then people are
thinking this is great. We're going to do all kinds of stuff
with Mickey Mouse and I'm thinking you better not. You bet
don't send an art with Mickey Mouse we're not going to do
we're not so we're not gonna use it. That's for sure. No, because
Disney will come after you no matter. This is the way it works
isn't your Disney got a 20 year extension, which was 20 years
ago on Mickey Mouse and they did that through all kinds of
lobbyists. In fact, Boston had Sonny Bono who helped Disney
extend that copyright? It could be wouldn't surprise I think it
when they killed him.
John C Dvorak: That's probably the reason that just any bonus
not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. How does that work?
Adam Curry: That's a good point.
John C Dvorak: That's Waller I think is if there's all these
rappers that are in rock and roll quote unquote, Abba Abba.
was in the right. Are you kidding me? No, I'm not kidding.
Sonny Bono is not and Cher is not. Are you sure about that?
Oh, yeah. Because the reason I say I'm sure about it, because
Cher was just on the Kelly Clarkson show and moaning and
groaning abandoned seat and now she says they've been give her a
million bucks. She won't. She won't accept it. Wow. She's
quite pissed off about it. I
Adam Curry: can't believe what you're watching. Yes, share slam
His Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for snub snub
John C Dvorak: trying to keep up with the culture unlike you. Oh,
Adam Curry: okay. Yeah, well, I'm glad you're doing that. Yes,
John C Dvorak: that's why I'm complaining about things. It's
safe and if I'm not happy, share snubbed. And then of course
there's the guitar player. What's his name? That right wing
guy who'd never got if for some unknown reason it Nugent. Ted
Nugent should have anybody so rock and roll guy. It's Ted
Nugent.
Adam Curry: It's correct. He won't even accept it
John C Dvorak: anymore. People wonder well, why? Why would you
already been snubbed? You know,
Adam Curry: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame back in the day
when I was a kid back in the MTV days late 80s. And the very
early 90s it was a it was a real thing. It was at the Waldorf
Astoria in New York, it was private. There were no
television cameras allowed inside. It was not videotaped.
We didn't have cell phone cameras. You could bring in your
your instamatic. You know, remember those with a little
flash cube on top. And it was great. Everybody was dressed
Lashon Q. Everybody was dressed up in in tuxedos you know, Phil
Spector before he was arrested and died. Mick Jagger would be
all be eating rubber chicken and pretending Oh, rubber chicken
has good beer and was it was really nice. And Paul Paul
Shaffer from Letterman's band, he would organize an actual jam
which was a jam was unrehearsed and the all these guys just
jumped on stage and played along and had a good time. And
nowadays are over that. Yeah. Oh, definitely. Now it's like
it's a show. It's on HBO. It's highly productive Republicans.
No, no, no agent. No. Sonny Bono. No, share. The end. It's
an it's an it has its shadow of what it used to be. You had to
pay $2,000 a seat. That was the old days. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
guys would buy a table, you know? 20 grand for 10 people.
But I got invited though. I got invited.
John C Dvorak: I'm sure you did. You didn't have to test this for
Oh,
Adam Curry: nope. No, I got in a fight with regular you busy
suing everybody. No, that was before those times they sued me
first. Okay, so the first
John C Dvorak: thing they did was unfair. You hate I know.
Other people have done the same thing. What? What John Markoff,
for example, got ny t.com. Yeah. Before the New York Times knew
what the hell was going on. And then they let it slide forever.
And then they've all of a sudden knew what kind of wanted it
because he caved. It wasn't like, you
Adam Curry: know, they they didn't add if they'd asked me, I
would have said, Okay, can I just have adam@mtv.com could
just keep the email alias. But they didn't ask me. They serve
me papers on a Saturday morning. And I said, You know what? Screw
you. I'm gonna countersue you. Then I did. And then we then we
split day
John C Dvorak: did and I hate to use the word because I'm
condemned for cussing too much. That sounds like there are a
bunch of chicken shits. Yeah,
Adam Curry: no, that's how you can use that word. That's fine.
That's fine. They were and the whole thing was dumb. It was
just dumb. But there was this lawyers. Lawyers, we get too
many lawyers. Sorry, lawyers. But we got too many of you
John C Dvorak: know, nothing was listening to our show. Now we
have those are good lawyers. Obviously. They're all good
lawyers. You're dynamite lawyer. We have some tremendous haiku.
What else we have? We have a bunch of Navy guys. Yeah. And
including, and I have some we want to talk about fat leonard
for a sec. Oh,
Adam Curry: you got the note. Be careful to protect? No, I've got
three notes. Okay. Protect all their identities because I got
three
John C Dvorak: notes. Well, this one is. He's only so much
protection, because he's actually he's the Knight of the
deep blue sea. And I think that's all we need to say. Yeah.
He says, Hi, John. I'm a Navy Supply Corps officer, the fat
leonard scandal took down several high ranking Supply
Corps officers. About a decade ago, by the way, I started
looking into this and people should go look at the fat
leonard entry into Wikipedia. And you can see the whole
timeline. And it starts with Paul Wolfowitz. Oh, really? And
the band the Bush administration, and it goes
right into about halfway through the first Obama administration.
Interesting, disgusting. 60 admirals were involved were
somehow involved 60 admirals where are they? This is this is
an untold scandal.
Adam Curry: How can How come that didn't I don't remember any
news about that? Of
John C Dvorak: course not. It was suppressed. My favorite
story was a lieutenant who was the supply officer on a
submarine. When a ship pulls into a foreign port. The ship
sends a logistics request called the Law Grech too short to ask
for all the things it needs. Things like the browser to walk
across the shoreline power lines, mooring lines, etc. This
one particular supply officer would ask for certain flavors of
cheesecake. Which was good for hookers.
Adam Curry: Oh, cheese cake and pizza, lemon
John C Dvorak: cheesecake. Many Asian girls, chocolate men,
black girls, no idea. No
Adam Curry: way.
John C Dvorak: This guy would sign the invoices for trash
removal, water delivery sanitary. This was by the way,
this is one of three or four notes we've gotten from these
different Navy guys. Yeah. And they all say the same thing.
They all knew this was going on sewer remover, etc. For a month
that were in excess of what was actually removed or delivered to
pay for his hookers, hotel room, et cetera, et cetera, even had
fat leonard fly his family out to some ports as a vacation.
Nice. There was a ton of malfeasance going on back then.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I got I got a note here about women and booze,
fur coats, Rolex watches concert tickets. Like a media buyer.
John C Dvorak: What's weird about to me is these Navy guys,
officers, many of them a lot of officers. They can't get their
own damn hookers. I mean, there are sailors and they can't find
a whore. Give me a break.
Adam Curry: They didn't want to pay for him. Well, okay, well,
there's that. Okay, well, since we've gone lewd
John C Dvorak: I don't know what's lewd about I think this
is the scandal is so enormous. And it's been so covered up in
the media, although the Washington Post did a really
good job on it. And they just named names and they named some
of the admirals, they're still they're still looking at you're
probably bring him in. Most of the admirals have retired. But
how does this happen? This is like the biggest breach? Well,
and he read, we only read about it in that wiki page. It's
disgusting. The
Adam Curry: question is, how come this is the only one we've
uncovered? Well,
John C Dvorak: I'm sure there's others. Yeah. And this and this
is why the Pentagon needs to be audited.
Adam Curry: Good luck with that. Yeah, they
John C Dvorak: can't audit the Pentagon. They can audit the
Navy. This is the taxpayers are getting ripped off on a daily
basis. In fact, I had a clip on a couple of shows ago, I didn't
play it. It's the the what's it called? Festivus report. Fancy
lookup Festivus singing and find it. This is the report that that
Rand Paul likes to bring out every year and it's about
government waste, and he cites a bunch of government waste
Adam Curry: this three clips from past Festivus I can't seem
to
John C Dvorak: figure out which one is about to report.
Adam Curry: This one I think first of all, I says back No,
not that one. No, no. Would it be it would be called Festivus
because I'm looking at Festivus and I don't
John C Dvorak: I thought it was called Festivus. Now it doesn't
seem bolitho Rand Paul maybe isn't that Yeah. Anyway, he did
not figure it out and bring it back to the next Sunday show.
Okay, if I can find it. But the this is this goes on forever and
nobody seems to care. No, and then you know, your taxes go
Unknown: up. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And up for you're just throwing money at hookers.
Adam Curry: As I said as we're being lured, let's listen to a
caller from C span Democrat line. Ryan
Unknown: is also from California Democrats line. I Pedro Yeah,
this is Ryan from California. I want I want to be bipartisan.
And you guys did gave some grades a couple of weeks back.
And I never got in but I'd like to give an A to my brothers in
the Republican Party. And I think the Democratic Party has
gotten a little crazy. And I think in some ways they're
trying to destroy this country. So I'm glad for their checks and
balances and I'd like to give them an A for doing that even
though they haven't been very productive. It's checks and
balances that's how this country works. This constitution works.
But I also want to get my Democrats credit to and I want
to give them an A in the Senate for doing anal. you in the butt
viewers. They're in California.
Adam Curry: Shaggy Dog he hold on a long time. Just seeing the
guy's face on C
John C Dvorak: span guys had to put up with this.
Adam Curry: I thought that was a banger. That was great. You know
he wasn't a Democrat from California?
John C Dvorak: No, of course there's some joker.
Adam Curry: Now, now this this is something quite serious.
Because this may affect a lot of things. A question came up
during a town hall on CNN for Nikki Haley. And now this is the
CNN report about it. And it's, of course, it's edited to make
her look even worse than it was. But not only did she blow it on
this, I think this is a question that we will see coming back
time and time and time again, for every Republican candidate
for any office. This will be the question,
Unknown: Abby, an awkward moment at this rally here in Berlin
when Nikki Haley was asked about the cause the origins in the
Civil War, she seemed tripped up by the question and suggested
that it was about the government and personal freedoms. The
questioner then called her out for neglecting to raise the
issue of slavery. Take a listen to the exchange. What was the
cause of the United States Civil War?
Well, don't come with an easy question. Right. I mean, I think
the cause of the Civil War was basically how government was
going to run the freedoms and what people could and couldn't
do. What do you think the cause of the Civil War was? Oh, bad.
I'm sorry. Slavery. I mean, I think it always comes down to
the role of government.
Adam Curry: Dope, Ericom.
Unknown: What do you want me to say about slavery? Next
question. She's done. She's
Adam Curry: Toast. Toast.
John C Dvorak: Not Have you bring this up once in a while on
the show. I want to refer people to a book called The causes of
the Civil War, I think is yes, the title. Yes. I Kenneth stamp.
Sta M. P. P. Kenneth. Stan was professor at Cal. And he was an
expert on the topic. And he wrote a book which discusses
this in great detail, based on what was what people were
saying, at the time, and since then, and it's quite
enlightening, because there's more than one reason is
definitely in there. But it's not the key reason, at least in
this book, and I would, and it's, it'll educate you
somewhat, but you have to enter in today's world. If you're
running for president, you have to say slavery, yes, period,
whether true or not. And so go to the Canada stamp book, and
you'll get
Adam Curry: a well, I get education abbreviation of the
Canada stamp book, which might be helpful. The Civil War grew
out of longstanding tensions and disagreements about American
life and politics. By the way, we have to understand that at
the time slavery was normal, it's very difficult for people
to transport their head into that today. For more than 80
years, people in the northern and southern states had been
debating the issues that ultimately led to war, economic
policies and practices, cultural values, the extent and reach of
the federal government, government, and most
importantly, the role of slavery within American society. Against
the backdrop of these larger issues, individual soldiers had
their own reasons for fighting. Their motivations often included
a complex mix of personal social, economic, and political
values that didn't necessarily match the aims expressed by the
respective governments. And there was a succession. There's
a lot of stuff that went on, but if you don't, and I think we
should, as the creative or consulting group, I think we
should have an answer that Republicans can use because
they're going to fail on this every single time. They take
John C Dvorak: her approach. Of course they are Shouldn't they
just say,
Adam Curry: well, Democrats at the time, and that's how I would
start off with Democrats like slavery. That's how I would
start. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's beautiful. Going in consulting mode, that
is absolutely the way to start it. Yeah. Just you got to stay.
The Democrat dominated south which we're all in on slaves as
the Democrats are to this day. Well, maybe you can't go that
far. Easy. Boy. You can you can get close.
Adam Curry: Yes, they like
John C Dvorak: to keep the black population under the under foot.
Yes,
Adam Curry: this is the answer. I mean, any any version of that
as how you want to answer the question. And then you can say
and but you should just start off by saying, well, we all know
the time the Democrats love slavery, and they wanted to keep
it going. There were other things at play. And then years
go on and it doesn't matter what you say from that point on. It
would be perfect because there's no there's no refuting that.
You're and Lincoln was our President, our Republic. imprint
had to
John C Dvorak: bring in a Republican which was a new party
at the time to fake white
Adam Curry: to fight for the fix the racist Democrats are
John C Dvorak: races Democrats and to you know, yeah, there's
wait yeah, you could definitely create a dialogue that would be
dynamite. But no, I may lick what Ramaswamy would probably go
in that direction but he's flat footed. She's no good toast,
man.
Adam Curry: I think she's toast over that one.
John C Dvorak: I think so too.
Adam Curry: That's just uh, she can't get anything done now. She
just and then when she says What would you like me to say about
slave that's why don't you give me any bad oh my god who was
running her campaign?
John C Dvorak: Well as fired, Mr. Fired it's clip here. This
is off to dub off topic but it brings in to bring these two
clips. Okay. This is the sewage test around schools clip.
Unknown: New Mexico is one of the very first states in the US
to have started drug testing its public schools wastewater their
range of opioids and stimulants. A Wall Street Journal report
looks into some of the data released earlier this month. Out
of more than three dozen high schools. Cocaine was found in
nearly 82% of campus communities, and many schools
also detected opioids like fentanyl, oxycodone, and
codeine. The author of that article Sarah Randazzo joins us
now Great to have you here, Sarah, and this is pretty
shocking stuff. Talk to us about this wastewater testing
technique. And how does it work? How common is this?
In the US, we really started hearing about it most. Since the
pandemic it was used to detect upticks in COVID. I know if you
remember seeing, you know, wastewater showing, there could
be a search here. And so it was used for diseases like that. And
then now the US is starting to realize, oh, we can do the same
wastewater technique to look for drug use. And New Mexico was one
of the first places I've found doing this in public schools.
And so they literally are testing anything that's flushed
down the toilet, to be just frank about it. And so it could
be from students, it could be from adults in the building. But
over the course of an eight hour period, they take multiple
measures at each campus and then look for a whole range of drugs
from it. I
Adam Curry: have a feeling that we discussed this very thing
happening.
John C Dvorak: I think we might have it started with nothing but
since it started with oh, we're just testing
Adam Curry: the wastewater to see if you have COVID have now
the drug tests. And
John C Dvorak: then eventually it can go house by house.
Adam Curry: And interestingly, a report just came out in the EU
and EU report I should say it's a worldwide report about and
this is also from I believe it's from wastewater testing
actually. The worst cocaine habits in by country. So who do
you think is number one the number one country that uses the
most cocaine? According
John C Dvorak: to the report? It should be us and I'm
disappointed if it's not Oh, no, we're
Adam Curry: no bro. We're number five we're slipping. I've
John C Dvorak: fallen on everything you
Adam Curry: will not believe who by a wide margin by 40%. And
this is the last 12 months amongst people aged 15 to 64.
John C Dvorak: Give me the top five number
Adam Curry: I'll give you an OG doing reverse or actually I'll
give you to do it reverse.
John C Dvorak: I'll give you the top two account down. Let
Adam Curry: me give you at number 10 We have coming in
where they're frog pants friends, number nine, Croatia,
number eight, Canada sniffing it and snorting it up north and
then no surprise the drug capital of the of the European
Union, the Netherlands. And then of course where all our money
goes for instead of to taxes Ireland and then number one to
number five the United States followed very closely beaten by
just a hair a nose hair by Spain. Of now comes the
interesting top three. Can you give me one of the top three of
the most cocaine users in the world?
John C Dvorak: How about Denmark? No,
Adam Curry: man, Denmark's got the legal stuff. They're on
SSRIs they don't need coke. Okay,
John C Dvorak: I'm just gonna. UK UK number
Adam Curry: two UK number two. Number three is Austria. Number
one can you guess by a margin of 40% more drug users then the
United Kingdom water ministry. No one is guessing it in the
troll room. No one has it. I was blown away. Okay, hit it
Australia. Wow. A bunch of cool hoped
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't have guessed that either. coked out
Adam Curry: because just kangaroos man wow I 40% margin
the ever since they took away the guns
Unknown: oh man
Adam Curry: well we're screwed alright I just have another two
yeah
John C Dvorak: but I feel good so I have one more sewage source
has died obviously came from that and this one is something I
think we should be aware of was the fake meat story
Adam Curry: okay it just made meat
Unknown: from your number two Japanese scientists have
developed a method to create edible steaks from human feces.
Unbelievable well it's happening meat so UK Aikido a researcher
at the okuyama laboratory collaborated with Tokyo sewage
to address sewage mud excess, they discovered the content in
the mud contains high protein due to bacteria so the team
isolated and combined these proteins with a reaction
enhancer result synthetic state gel to me comprises of 63%
protein 25% carbs 3% lipids and 9% minerals and it's visually
enhanced with food coloring for a red hue and improved flavor
using soy protein.
Adam Curry: Where'd that come from? That's a ground for cake
John C Dvorak: Tiktok Okay,
Adam Curry: all right. Well, there is a lot of talk about
California now approving wastewater recycle. Yes,
John C Dvorak: it's a big story. I've had some clips I don't
think I haven't any today but the they're approving the use of
toilet one waste water another word sewage the liquid in the
sewage to refine it to make drinking water. Yeah, they're
gonna they've started already in some areas whether using it for
for lawns and outdoor use a lawyer you can't really tell me
how you separate the pipes
Adam Curry: as a as a resident of California. What is your
feeling about this development?
John C Dvorak: That drink bottled water?
Adam Curry: I'll bet you do. I was always under the impression
that they were already doing that.
John C Dvorak: That's what I thought too in some areas for
but mostly for agriculture use. I didn't know that they were
going to try to make people drink into your heart up man.
Wait, and I realize reading quite a bit around here. Yeah,
but I'd say this that they want us to drink our own pee and and
basically each. It's like to Hello. Hello, California.
Adam Curry: Uber all us. Uber all
John C Dvorak: Hey, and wait, California goes. Oh, oh, yeah.
The
Adam Curry: way the rest of the country goes. I don't think so.
Yeah. Although on that new civil war movie, it is Texas and
California Joining Forces oddly, which makes no sense. Somehow
somehow that happens. Let's just get the obligatory Orange Man
bad story out of the way. Oh, MSNBC, Lawrence O'Donnell
Unknown: on Christmas Day. A 77 year old criminal defendant
facing racketeering charges.
Adam Curry: That's that's it's gone from, was it the President
with twice impede or twice impeached 90 times a night
indicted, indicted. Now now it's just gone down to this on
Christmas Day. He just by the way,
Unknown: a 77 year old criminal defendant facing racketeering
charges and other felonies in four jurisdictions said that his
prosecutors should rot in hell. And unlike every other criminal
defendant, who has said that he didn't mumble it to himself
bitterly alone in his jail cell.
Adam Curry: This is Lawrence O'Donnell deserves a goat for
this
Unknown: awaiting trial. He didn't say it angrily to a
cellmate. He said it through the reach of social media to the
world and to the world that he said the president of the United
States should rot in hell. The 77 year old criminal defendant
is also the leading Republican candidate for President of the
United States, thanks to the inexplicable political
perversion of most Republican Party voters who have chosen to
support a man who has described himself as being perverse. That
was his word. Donald Trump is now the first former presidents
in history to say that any other American president, including
the slave owners, should rot in hell. There is no evidence doubt
Trump believes that there is a
Adam Curry: hell we did that there is no evidence bit. It's
kind of good he did noting the slave
Unknown: owners should rot in hell. There is no evidence that
Donald Trump believes that there is a hell or that there is a God
He obviously has not lived a single day of his life. Based on
a belief in hell or God, and there is no decision he ever
made in life that can be traced to a belief in hell, or God,
Adam Curry: that is blatantly false.
John C Dvorak: Not only that, but is scandalous. Yes. Why
Adam Curry: it's almost done. But that does
Unknown: not render Donald Trump's condemnation of
President Biden to hell. Harmless, because the only way
Donald Trump's most fervent Christian followers believe Joe
Biden can burn in hell is if he is dead.
John C Dvorak: Wow, that's, I think, consider that a threat.
Yeah, of
Adam Curry: course it is. That's what he's trying to make Trump
into. But he's the one that said it.
John C Dvorak: Well, that from that same operation, let's
listen to the supercut of what people think is going to happen
with Trump second term,
Adam Curry: who on second, here we go, what would a second
Donald Trump term look like?
Unknown: You can't imagine the things that he's going to do.
And you
Adam Curry: know, we played this like three episodes ago. I don't
care. I hate to be a douchebag. But I don't remember
John C Dvorak: the one part in this that if you if that's true,
what would a second Donald Trump term
Unknown: look like? You can't imagine the things that he's
going to do and shoot visitors to the White House. That means
he can shoot the First Lady. We're gonna
see violence the likes of which we didn't even see on January 6,
make it illegal to run against him to throw his opponents in
jail to shut down the media,
you will make himself into the furor using martial law against
the Americans
to create mass internment camps. Throw everyone into Gitmo
assassinate generals
ordering troops to attack American citizens Trump's
very well armed and extremists base will try to kill people
going in is going to basically burn the house down
the absolute destruction of the Justice Department as we know
it.
The vote for Donald Trump may mean the last election that you
ever get to vote in.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't remember anyone saying he's
gonna shoot the First Lady. Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, that was that was in the original. It's
alright. Well,
John C Dvorak: yeah, maybe we didn't play it yet. We did
Adam Curry: play it.
John C Dvorak: Okay, if we played it I just for some reason
I can't remember. I can't imagine me not remembering that
he's going to shoot the First Lady. So we have the updates on
Trump here. This is Trump ballot, Smith, et cetera on MTD,
Unknown: Special Counsel Jack Smith is trying to limit
evidence and arguments that Trump can make before the jury.
In his federal trial related to the January 6 related case.
Prosecutors claimed that Trump has tried to spread irrelevant
disinformation and will try to politicize the trial.
Specifically Smith is concerned that Trump will distract the
jury by making claims of political prosecution, such as
raising the question as to whether or not this legal case
against Trump was launched in coordination with the Biden
administration, or the question of whether or not there were
undercover agents present at the Capitol on January 6, or
questions of alleged foreign interference in the 2020
presidential election. All of these topics Jack Smith wants to
be off limits at that trial, which is what he's asking of the
DC judge. Meanwhile, proceedings in this case are currently on
hold because of an appeal over the question of whether or not
presidential immunity applies in this case. Meanwhile, Michigan
Supreme Court today did rule that Trump can stay on the
ballot in that state rejecting an appeal to try to disqualify
him. Michigan's court stated that they would not review the
question as to whether or not Trump should be disqualified
based on accusations that he incited an insurrection. This is
the exact opposite from that Colorado rolling, which will
likely go to the Supreme Court, we can expect to see several
other rulings on this issue coming out over the coming weeks
and months as there are challenges to Trump's candidacy
and several other states. Now
Adam Curry: I'm glad everyone has something to argue about.
John C Dvorak: That's all that's all this is just all publicity
the way I see it. Yeah, of course, Trump Of course it is.
It's just different than the last time only this time it's
like it's it just makes everything look unfair. Part two
of this clip talks about what California is up to. California
Unknown: Governor Gavin Newsom reacted to efforts from a top
state official trying to bar former President Donald Trump
from the state's ballot. This comes after the Colorado Supreme
Court ruled that Trump should be dismissed from the Colorado
ballot for the 2024 election. They say he violated section
three of the US constitutions 14th amendment, a majority of
justices on the state court ruled that he engaged in an
insurrection or rebellion against the United States under
their reading of the provision. The decision has triggered more
efforts across the United States, including in California
to disqualify Trump from appearing on ballots in 2024.
But in a statement issued on December 20 Second, Newsom told
his fellow Democrats that he believes that in California we
defeat candidates at the polls referring to lawsuits against
President Trump and that everything else is a political
distraction. Lieutenant Governor Eleni Cunha. Lacus, who was
running for governor as a Democrat in 2026 sent a letter
to Secretary of State Shirley Weber urging her to find legal
ways to remove Trump's name from the state's ballot. The letter
reads based on the Colorado Supreme Court's ruling, I urge
you to explore every legal option to remove former
President Donald Trump from California's 2024 presidential
primary ballot. Meanwhile, Senator Dave min also a Democrat
announced that he would introduce a measure to allow
residents of the state to file lawsuits to block candidates who
are deemed ineligible. No,
Adam Curry: man, not the California matters. I mean, we
know what they're gonna vote.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the elections are rigged here
anyway, which is the reason I think, because I heard that
Newsom was all in on the idea of knocking them off the ballot
now, all of a sudden, he's not because I think somebody went up
to him and said, Hey, what difference does it make? Right?
Adam Curry: Makes no, and he can play the high ground. But again,
it's like, you know, it's I don't care who's gonna be no
one's gonna come in and save the world. That's that's the that's
the bad part of this. Oh, if Trump gets elected, then we're
all saved. No,
John C Dvorak: definitely not gonna be saved on anything more
40 more years of agony and always like to say, Hey, if you
had let Trump win the second term, he'd be out for good.
Adam Curry: I mean, I'm thinking now, that the the How about this
for our scenario, we want Trump to win because we're the
economy, the financial system is going to blow up eventually. Why
not pull the plug, pull it? Pull it just before Trump is elected?
Let him deal with it. Well,
John C Dvorak: I think that may be exactly what's going on with
the migration crisis.
Adam Curry: Oh, you're so right. That's a good point. Because it
is it is just out of control. And everyone sees it. Everyone.
Yeah. Even
John C Dvorak: the Democrats are
Adam Curry: irked all the Democrats are here I have. This
is a I'm sure you have clips. This is a the the Democrat
mayors of the sanctuary cities had a zoom call. And they all
get that Zoom call. Yeah, they had a zoom call. Everybody got
on the call. And they're all bitching and moaning. We need
Unknown: the federal government to invest. But we also need to
make sure that the governor of Texas, there's no pick this
animosity. On the rest of the country. Mayor
Johnson joined New York Mayor Eric Adams and Denver Mayor Mike
Johnston on a joint call with members of the media this
afternoon. We at
this point now have had more migrant arrivals to our city
than any city in America per capita. And and that is not
because there is a thoughtful or coordinated strategy to entry it
is because we are the first big city north of El Paso and the
cheapest bus ticket in the shortest trip.
The mayor of Denver says the city has received 35,000
migrants since the crisis began in 2022 compared to more than
26,000 in Chicago, and more than 150,000 in New York. Just
a few weeks ago, Governor Abbott promised to send an additional
25,000 migrants to New York City alone.
We learned New York City is adopting a similar ordinance
Chicago passed last month requiring migrant buses give
advance notice before arriving and only do drop offs Monday
through Friday at a designated location in New York limiting
those hours between 8am to noon. Chicago's ordinance extends that
drop off time until 5pm. Buses that don't comply here are cited
and a couple of them have been impounded migrants from Texas
also arriving at Chicago's airports, sending
planes to Chicago or anywhere else that are funded by the
government. This government of Texas, these private planes
without a manifest without knowing who's on the plane
without knowing what's on the plane is not just reckless is
dangerous.
The mayor is all described shelter spaces at capacity and a
strain on city budgets pushing for a list of demands from the
feds including authorized work permits.
It will crush city budgets around the country as we know
we're looking at about $160 million of potential costs going
next year's budget that's almost 10% of our entire city budget
asking for federal financial help and better coordination to
manage the flow of migrants from the southern border.
We have spoken to FEMA and other federal officials who have
expressed concern about the border surge, but not offered
additional help. We need action and we need it now.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there you go. We're the baddies Of course were
the bad guys were the bad guys were sitting even though
John C Dvorak: supposedly, you're the bad guys or text is
referring to Yes. It still is only, like 10% of what's
happening in New York, the rest of the US government sending him
up. Yes. Yes. getting blamed for nothing really. But
Adam Curry: people are seeing it there at the airports. They're
seeing the chaperones, that's the I, what the what's the name
of that company? Again, I Edie, they're the they're contracted
to help these people through TSA, they got paperwork,
Everything's all set. It's all good to go. And that is, I mean,
it's crazy. And everyone sees it now and they just let keep
letting it go. They could stop it today. But why don't they I
think this is part of the reason.
Unknown: Two Pizza Hut franchises are laying off more
than 1200 in house delivery drivers in California and they
are actually eliminating the service that we're preparing for
the new law that will raise employee wages to $20 an hour
starting in April. The layoffs will affect hundreds of stores
in orange, Los Angeles, Riverside and San Bernardino,
and Ventura Counties. To get orders customers will need to
use third party delivery apps like DoorDash Uber Eats and
Grubhub
Adam Curry: we need cheap people to deliver our food. We need
cheap people to clean the homes. Toilets, we need slaves. That's
what it is. These people are cynical. Well
John C Dvorak: as they don't know how many cheap people we
need. Let's go to migration report. Well, I got two of them.
Here we go. Let's do the N TD one first. Okay.
Unknown: This is in di D Secretary of State and Tony
Blinken.
Adam Curry: Wow, same cadence. Did you hear that?
John C Dvorak: I love that guy. And
Unknown: this is in the
Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Homeland Security Chief
Alejandro my orcas are in Mexico City on Wednesday. They're
seeking the support of Mexico's president Andres Manuel Lopez
Obrador in tackling the immigration crisis, they too are
expected to bring up a number of requests, including moving
migrants South controlling the railways that are used by
migrants to move north and providing visas and other
incentives for migrants to stay in Mexico. This comes as new
footage this week shows migrants making fires and sleeping
between train cars in Mexico. They often travel on top of the
train to not get caught by Mexican authorities.
Mexican migration authorities get us off the buses if we're
about to reach the border. We're returned to southern Mexico for
no apparent reason. We're always supposed to move forwards I
mean, we have to get on the train.
However, sometimes Mexican authorities don't stop the
migrants an issue the American delegation might address at
Wednesday's meeting. Shortly before the meeting, President
Obrador said the US should be investing in poor people in
Latin America and the Caribbean, instead of putting up barriers,
barbed wire fences in the river or thinking about building
walls. Meanwhile, in the US, the Democratic mayor of Eagle Pass,
Texas says the US should start deporting people, adding that
the problem starts with President Biden and vice
president Kamala Harris not taking a stand on the issue.
It's
very disappointing that they haven't made that message
themselves that you can come into this country illegally. One
and second. Yes, of course, there has to be a consequence to
somebody breaking the law. People know that they're
processing them quick. That's why they keep coming. So until
we start deporting people in large amounts, this will
continue to keep going. He
adds that the influx of immigrants is causing crime in
his city to rise.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, can I trust that report? And you can play
the Amy Goodman? Morning.
Unknown: AMY GOODMAN flippin bound. US Secretary of State
Tony Blinken, Homeland Security Chief Mohandro Marcus and White
House Homeland Security Adviser Liz Sherwood Randall are meeting
today with Mexican President on low that's Andres Manuel Lopez
Obrador and Mexico City. Blinken is preparing to discuss what his
office is described as border security challenges and quote,
unprecedented irregular migration in the Western
Hemisphere. Unquote. Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador is expected
to call again for the Biden ministration to lift sanctions
against Cuba and Venezuela, which AMLO says has driven an
increase in migration. This comes as a caravan with over
6000 migrants are heading towards the US Mexico border.
Some participants in the caravan are holding banners that read
quote, exodus from poverty, unquote. Other caravan
participants said they're fleeing violence at home. This
is Jose Santos from Honduras. I
came here escaping from the Ms. 13 criminal gangs. I worked as a
security guard. Ms. 13 asked us for money but we didn't have
any. They wanted our ammunition. But as gone As we only received
a limited amount of ammunition, they threatened to kill me. Not
once, but three times. I was scared. So I decided to Mexico,
hoping I'll be allowed to go to the US. In
related news, CNN is reporting more than 11,000 people seeking
refuge in the United States are waiting in shelters and camps on
the Mexican side of the border.
Adam Curry: I had a conversation with Moe about this yesterday,
he had an interesting take on the large amount of what they
call men of military age. Yeah, which, you know, in here in
Texas, the meme is gonna be gonna kill us from inside they
got they're gonna have an old army here, and they're gonna
kill us here. A mosaic was interesting. He said, No, no,
no. He said, We want these men because that will be your path
to citizenship. We can't get anyone to find you
John C Dvorak: to put them in. We can't get people in our own
army will join. Exactly bring him in. You get citizenship.
This is a deal that was started some time back.
Adam Curry: I think wasn't it?
John C Dvorak: I think even maybe before that there was a
lot of these guys as you I think during the Iraq war, this may go
back further. And I think it was like you come over here. You're
here. You you're going to the army for two years and fight in
Iraq. Yeah. And you'll get a citizenship and there's a bunch
of people that did that. Oh, yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this and
John C Dvorak: it's possible that we're loading up because
bring him in and then sue them up and send them off. This is
what Russia does. If you note the Ukraine they were always
talking about how they were bringing all these guys in from
all over the place to put on a Russian uniform and go into
Ukraine.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, the same same for Ukraine. Ukraine bottle
up there's a lot of American mercenaries getting killed over
there. That
John C Dvorak: fighting Fight, fight Smash.
Adam Curry: I have a couple of clips here. This is ABC.
Unknown: Tonight, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken arriving
in Mexico City pressing Mexico's president for help with the
migrant surge at the border joined by DHS Secretary
Alejandro Mayorkas, sources telling ABC News that the Biden
ministration plan to push Mexico to step up immigration
enforcement within their country help reopen key ports of entry
and encourage migrants to stay in Mexico. The urgent meeting
coming as border officials brace for this caravan of migrants an
estimated 6000 people pushing through southern Mexico towards
an overwhelmed us border December now on track to have
the highest number of border patrol apprehensions ever.
According to CBP data. Several days this month seen more than
10,000 apprehensions overnight, a plane carrying over 180
migrants from Texas diverted to Philadelphia due to weather
issues. The group later packed on buses and transported to New
York City tonight, Mayor Eric Adams now requiring those buses
to provide 32 hour notice before arriving in the city and urging
the federal government to step up.
This is a national problem. This has only been exacerbated by
Governor app is cruel, inhumane cruel politics, federal
government responsibility.
I think I think Biden
John C Dvorak: can do it. It's not cruel, like put people on
planes and ship wherever he wants. But if Abbott does, it is
cruel.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's cruel because you know, we're red
state. We're horrible people. I think TRT had a good report.
Unknown: I think this is the one I mean, the latest surge of
1000s of Central and South American migrants is on the move
now heading toward the US border. They don't care about
the enormous humanitarian, political and logistical
nightmare they've touched off. They just want to get in
America's top diplomat Secretary of State Antony Blinken was
among US officials who met with Mexican President Andres Obrador
on Wednesday, there are some ideas the US is pressing Mexico
on keeping or moving migrants farther south in Mexico away
from the US border, providing migrants with visas to give them
an incentive to stay in Mexico. But Mexico doesn't have the
resources or the infrastructure that the US has to handle the
influx. This month alone, the number of migrants crossing the
border has sometimes exceeded 10,000 in one day. The US is
occasionally closing international bridges between
the two nations as a way to pressure Mexico to do more. But
both nations get hurt economically. When those bridges
close New York City where 1000s of migrants arrive each week is
so overwhelmed. The mayor is now putting limits on how long
migrants can stay in shelters, creating panic.
They told me that this country was different but no. I told my
son Enjoy the hotel. We have a roof right now. This is going to
send us away and we're going to be sleeping in the train on the
streets. And my son started to cry back and I said, Let's have
faith.
Mexican president Obrador says he wants to help. But he also
wants to see the US make diplomatic progress with Cuba
and Venezuela, where most migrants are now coming from,
along with more development aid for the region. proof that this
is no longer a border crisis, but a hemisphere one
Adam Curry: hemisphere crisis. Well, I don't know but all I see
is you got a problem with a war the America will pay for it be
an Israel lab will pay for Europe, Ukraine will pay for it.
You got you got crap going on your economy. Come on over here.
We'll take care of it. How did that happen? How did how did we?
And it's not just from South American countries. No, no,
there's entire we talked about this. There's tour. Travel
Agencies popping up online and foreseeing Africa for Somalians,
hey, we'll get you to the American we'll get you to the
border, no worries. And this was a perfect, perfect example of
it.
Unknown: Granted at the vettery Airport tarmac for 24 hours, an
Airbus A 340 was transporting over 300 Indian passengers. All
of them held in the airport suspected to be part of a human
trafficking network with investigations ongoing. Two men
possessing cash and several passports are currently in
custody. The plane left the UAE yesterday for technical stuff in
France. It was supposed to take off to the capital of Nicaragua.
So the
Adam Curry: goal in Nicaragua and then put bus get on the bus
go up to the up to the border, come on in. Everybody gets paid.
Everybody's great. And and it's the United Nations Office of
immigration of immigration. Was it International Office of
migration? Who are ours are just supporting this?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, with our money. Yes. This gives our money
to the UN to make these things happen. If we need some
auditing, we're getting ripped off.
Adam Curry: Yes. But this is this is coming to a head. I
mean, this just has to end this is people are not going to take
it anymore. Particularly New Yorkers are getting fed up.
Chicagoans are getting fed up. You can only say good Texas no
good for so long. With Lexus's fault, that's all the that's all
the mayor says, oh, it's Texas is inhumane, horrible, Greg
Abbott, who wasn't in a wheelchair to kick his ass. It's
just it's a meme. And so you think that this is part of the
let's do this and leave it all to Trump
John C Dvorak: along with the beginning to think so. Because
the Democrats seem to sense that there, they can't get Biden off
the ticket. Because he's just not going to go off the ticket.
And he has to, you know, they can have to defer, so they're
gonna have to leave on the ticket. So he's going to be on
there with Camela. And that means he's going to die in
office probably in two or three years, and then she's going to
be present is a nightmare. So they don't want that they're not
nuts. And so they're going to let Trump and the Republicans
kind of when they're probably take, keep the house. I don't
know how the Senate is gonna go. But whatever the case is, Trump
had the house and senate last time it didn't do him any good.
And because he's a bonehead. He's not a good president in
terms of his ability to run things. He hires the wrong
people that come to the Council on Foreign Relations folk are
running the place anyway. The media is all over him. He can't
do anything he's in. He's no good. Yeah. But they're gonna
but at least it'll put the Republicans in and they can take
take it up up the shorts for all now they got to deal with this.
And they got to deal with that. And they got to deal with like
you said that there will be an economic downturn.
Adam Curry: You call this a financial event is what I'm
calling it.
John C Dvorak: Well, you can call it whatever you want. But
that should take place in 2025. Not next year, but the year
after, there you go, according to the cycles.
Adam Curry: It could be triggered a little earlier, that
would be fun. Well,
John C Dvorak: whatever. Well for the show, maybe, as I said
for the donation segment. The whole thing is leading to let
them let the Republicans take it in the shorts for all this that
we're doing and let's just pour in more migrants don't do
anything about it. And you know, see what happens.
Adam Curry: Yeah, meanwhile, there's an entire generation of
young people certainly in the United States who are being
taught to hate America yeah hated for being colonialist.
can't know lonely elicit
John C Dvorak: no good one. No
Adam Curry: good. This is have you ever heard of Turtle Island?
John C Dvorak: For summer And I have I can't tell you what I
what I've heard but I have heard of Turtle Island Turtle Island.
Adam Curry: Let me see I have it here. Turtle Island is about
read it from the Wikipedia of Turtle Island is the name for
earth or North America used by some indigenous peoples? As well
as by Yes, indigenous right.
John C Dvorak: You're right. I had it. I have heard it, but
I've only heard it recently like in the last couple of weeks.
Adam Curry: Right. So I only heard it today. And I heard this
University of Minnesota professor. Right, the one that
went off the rails. Yeah, yes, exactly. So if there's
indigenous peoples on the stage, they're talking about Israel.
And of course, how horrible America is for funding them. And
genocide ng the, the Palestinians. And so we get a
couple of terms here. One is the Turtle Island. And the other one
is, I think an interesting land back lands back,
Unknown: but land back is going to happen. That's going to
happen the indigenous perspective and Turtle Island,
and how we understand what is also happening in Palestine. And
what we really want you to take away tonight is, as Anthony
said, we're in the belly of the beast, right? We're all
indigenous people who come from nations that are under
occupation by the United States government. And of course, the
US Bank rules on the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land.
They're one in the same, really. And so it's our responsibility
as people who are within the United States to go as hard as
possible to decolonize this place, because that will
reverberate all across the world, because the US is the
greatest predator empire that has ever existed. Right? And so
they want us everywhere. We want us out of Palestine, they want
us out of Turtle Island. Right. And that the goal is to hold the
settler project that is the United States. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So just dismantle, dismantle the United States,
because that'll work out great.
John C Dvorak: that'll improve things. So that now this woman
is at the University of Minnesota, I believe. Yes,
correct, professor, and we'll see how long she lasts.
Adam Curry: Have a couple other of these? Well, there's actually
there's a new chant, which I wanted to share with the group.
John C Dvorak: As I've heard a couple of new chants, I
Adam Curry: have a new one. The new chant is for the Houthis.
Although in this case, it's for Yemen because they're doing a
great job of blocking the shipping through the Red Sea.
Couldn't hear it? Yemen, Yemen, make us proud. Turn another ship
around. Yes, it is, I think. See, I have, of course we have
protesters in Los Angeles at the airport.
Unknown: About 35 people were arrested for rioting amid a pro
Palestinian protest in Los Angeles. They blocked a street
leading into LA international airport this morning. Several
were seen scaling walls and running into neighborhoods
before being taken down by officers in riot gear. One
person was arrested for battery on a police officer. Traffic
slowed, but police said no flights were impacted. And
Adam Curry: here's what's crazy. This anti Israel, anti Zionist,
anti Jew hate really started over a year ago with Kanye he
was the first to say oh no, they're, they're debunking me.
They're taking my business away. I'm no longer rich. They took my
money away. You remember that? Oh, yeah, of course. Well, he
spun on a dime Kanye
Unknown: West is apologizing to the Jewish community posting a
statement on Instagram and Hebrew after a series of anti
semitic remarks. The rapper who calls himself yay is asking for
forgiveness. his apology comes just before the release of his
new album.
John C Dvorak: Timing I love
Adam Curry: I don't know exactly what yeah is trying to do. But
it is time to break out new flags. I think we can expect
this I'm just going to put it in the Red Book yellow flags are on
deck yellow flags are on
Unknown: deck. Hundreds of Hezbollah supporters turned out
Wednesday for the funeral of a fighter killed in an Israeli
airstrike. Since the outbreak of the Israel Hamas war on October
Hezbollah and Israeli forces have engaged in near daily
clashes. Israel bombarded southern Lebanon to force
Hezbollah to evacuate 30 kilometers north and create a
buffer zone. Instead, Bala fired about 30 rockets into northern
Israel. Israel warned that the situation in the region may
escalate further. I must
be good as a former situation on Israel's northern border demands
change. The timer for a diplomatic solution is running
out if the world and the Lebanese Government will not
stop the firing on Northern settlements and move Hezbollah
away from the Border Israeli army will.
Israel faces tensions with more than just Hezbollah and its
north, especially after the death of a high ranking Iranian
officer near Damascus on Monday. His funeral was attended by
1000s in Tehran Thursday, Iran accused Israel of being
responsible for the attack in Syria and promised prevent
certain that this acts of retaliation will continue at
different times and in different places. designed this too will
never be safe from vengeance on knock
on the door. Iran said these actions will be carried out by
the Axis of Resistance, a term for Iran allied groups in the
region. These include the Syrian Government, Bala and Lebanon,
Iraqi militant groups and Yemeni rebels.
Adam Curry: So Israel now basically claims they have I
think seven different people or countries attacking them
including Syria, Damascus, I mean, Syria, Lebanon might be in
this clip. Yeah, but our
Unknown: journey into Gaza at eras crossing. The border
checkpoint ransacked by Hamas on October 7, now in shambles,
entering northern Gaza on foot, the sounds of gunfire ricochet
across the desert as we pass the vast wasteland of mangled steel
and concrete blocks, tanks rolling by and the hum of
Israeli drones overhead.
Adam Curry: I don't think that's the one hold on a second what
was oh, this is it. This is the I think this is the clip here we
go. So
Unknown: task one Iranian state television this footage purports
to show the strike that killed sired Rozay Mousavi, the
esteemed senior adviser in Iran's Revolutionary Guard who
died on the outskirts of the Syrian Capitol on Monday, Tehran
has blamed an Israeli airstrikes. Our
reaction to the assassination will be smart, strong and with
the necessary effectiveness.
On Tuesday, the Israeli Defense Minister hinted the country had
retaliated in Syria, but stopped short of confirming the strike.
On the
normal GFI. We are having a multi front war. We are under
attack from seven different fronts, Gaza, Lebanon, Syria,
Judea and Samaria, Iraq, Yemen and Iran. We have already
responded on six of these fronts.
Adam Curry: So there you have it, seven, seven, and who's
paying for all this and it's not going to stop this is gonna go
on forever. This it's beautiful. The Military Industrial Complex
loves it. loves it, we'll figure something out with the border.
We'll do some some little bullcrap thing and then we'll
get money for more money for Ukraine. And more money for
Israel. They love this stuff. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: because it's soaking the American public. And
Adam Curry: you know, and and we're at peak now. It finally I
was waiting for the report. It came from PBS thank God
Unknown: UN's nuclear watchdog reports that Iran has increased
its production of near weapons grade ways. The International
Atomic Energy Agency said Tehran has been producing more highly
enriched uranium since late November, reversing a month long
slowdown. UN inspectors observed the increase at facilities in
Natanz and for though
Adam Curry: they're just weeks away from the bomb just weeks
it's coming it's
John C Dvorak: always been weeks just waiting forever be weeks
away. Why I have some guys are reporting let's go with Gaza
update.
Unknown: Update guys has health ministry says at least 241
Palestinians have been killed over the past 24 hours that's 10
an hour as Israel intensifies its assault on Gaza, where the
overall death toll has topped 21,000 including 8000 children.
Meanwhile, in the occupied West Bank and Israeli drone strike
has killed six Palestinians in the near shrimps refugee camp
near Tulkarm. During an Israeli raid. Al Jazeera reports Israeli
forces blocked ambulances from reaching the victims of the
strike. The youngest victim was 16 years old Israeli forces and
settlers have killed at least 300 Palestinians in the occupied
West Bank since Hamas attacked Israel on October 7.
John C Dvorak: Oh, she of course is supported in almost secretly
by Qatar. So in the reports you're going to go Why do you
say that? Because we discussed this some time ago. This show is
supported by Qatar
Adam Curry: it is yeah, Democracy Now. Yeah. They give
grants to Democracy Now.
John C Dvorak: I I forget this is so long ago when we first
unveiled our kind of released this information Yeah, they're
getting dare if you can tell by your by their reporting that
they're very pro Palestinian, anti Israel but it gets
ridiculous I got these is a democracy now. Ridiculous. It's
just the way it's done here. Listen to this. Egypt's
Unknown: proposed a plan for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza. But
on Tuesday, Israel's army chief said Israel's military operation
in Gaza will continue for quote many more months. Hamas has also
rejected elements of the Egyptian proposal. On Tuesday,
the bodies of about 80 Unidentified Palestinians were
buried in a mass grave in Rafah in southern Gaza. Israel had
seized the bodies in northern Gaza in order to determine if
any of them were dead Israeli hostages Israel then return the
bodies to Gaza through the Kadam Shalom crossing. Meanwhile,
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has reportedly
endorsed expelling all Palestinians from Gaza. Israeli
news outlets report, Netanyahu told a group of Israeli
lawmakers Monday quote regarding voluntary immigration. This is
the direction we're going in. He said Palestinian leaders
denounced Netanyahu for embracing what they described as
ethnic cleansing. The 11 week Israeli assault has already
forced more than 85% of Palestinians in Gaza to leave
their homes and many have no homes to return to displace
Palestinians say there are no safe places remaining in Gaza.
were displaced. We were bombed by aircraft. The school was not
safe. So we went out. And while we were leaving, we're snipers
and people were martyred. We have been out for two days and
the situation has not improved. The plane is bombing from above
has nothing to snipers as well.
John C Dvorak: So this is like a pennant or you can call it
slanted or whatever. But the way she emphasizes that the Israelis
refused the Egyptian idea. And then of course the Palestinians
did too. But there's no say that. No, and then there's the
story about the 80 corpses that were shipped to Israel
Adam Curry: and shown in a rave or something
John C Dvorak: and then they shipped them back I mean this
very strange Well,
Adam Curry: that's isn't that just all propaganda. I mean,
we've run out of babies and incubators, so we need to do
some
John C Dvorak: good. Let's go into
Adam Curry: shipping corpses around and mass graves always a
winner at the news desk.
John C Dvorak: Here's a part two of this report.
Unknown: Israel's bombardment of Gaza has also led to a growing
public health catastrophe as disease spreads due to
contaminated water supplies the buildup of untreated sewage and
the lack of medical care. Some Israeli officials have openly
praised the spread of diseases in Gaza. In November retired
Major General Shuara Island, who still advises Israel's defense
minister wrote, quote, severe epidemics in the south of the
Gaza Strip will bring victory closer, unquote. The public
health crisis in Gaza is also impacting Israeli soldiers. The
Times of Israel reports one soldier died after being
infected by a harmful fungus in Gaza. At least 10 other Israeli
troops are infected after being exposed to soil contaminated
with sewage waste. Meanwhile, three more Israeli soldiers have
died in Gaza. 154 Israeli soldiers have been killed in
Gaza since Israel launched its ground invasion.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, this is a part of another meme about the
ill disease in Gaza. This is from NPR
Unknown: fighting continues in Gaza between the Israeli
military and Hamas militants. Israel is still bombing the
Enclave relief group saying there's no mercy for Palestinian
civilians to go. The World Health Organization says the
death toll is going to climb because of disease and bears
already Daniel says the who has assessed infectious disease
conditions in Gaza.
It's bad and it may well get worse. Okay, who says rates are
quote soaring? Here's one example a more than 100,000
cases of diarrhea with rates among children that are 25 times
higher than before the war, the WHO says There are also numerous
cases of meningitis, rashes, scabies, lice and chickenpox.
John C Dvorak: Well, cholera is next.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. We haven't had that one yet. It's
kind of it's kind of depressing. I mean, nothing's going
nothing's going to change. Israel is not going to stop. I
mean, it Lebanon is next. That's why we're gonna have yellow
flags for Lebanon. Well, I have to change our profiles again.
They are not going to stop. I mean, people think that they're
this you know, standing in front of in front of lax is going to
stop this is not going to stop. The only is going to stop is if
we I guess stop funding it.
John C Dvorak: That's not going to happen.
Unknown: Today, the White House announced plans to provide up to
$250 million in additional military aid to Ukraine. It
includes air defense munitions and artillery and what will be
the last aid package unless of course, Congress approves
additional funding houseware Republicans have insisted a
compromise on immigration along with us security border. Border
Security rather is crucial to negotiate any foreign aid
package. Right.
John C Dvorak: Well, I have my Ukraine clip, which is a little
different is the short Ukraine short report. Ukrainian
Unknown: forces struck a large Russian warship and important
occupied Crimea on Tuesday, in what's been described as one of
the most significant attacks against Moscow's Black Sea Fleet
and months, but the attack commences Ukrainian officials
have acknowledged Russia has seized the frontline town of
Mary Inca in eastern Ukraine after a month long battle and
the latest setback to Ukraine's failed counter offensive. I'm
Adam Curry: reading here that was this UK papers Zelinsky
knows too much and will be killed off by his own men.
John C Dvorak: We've been hearing that for like a year
Adam Curry: I know a Poroshenko is supposedly in the wings
still, we know the portion and he's a military industrial
complex guy. So that would be going
John C Dvorak: back to Israel. I do want to play this contrasting
clip which shows the Democracy Now he's got kind of one you
know they're very, they've taken aside is you in bumped di N.
Israel's
Unknown: announced it will stop automatically granting visas to
employees of the United Nations after it accused the UN of being
quote complicit partners with Hamas. Top United Nations
officials have repeatedly called for a ceasefire in Gaza while
demanding more humanitarian aid into the Besiege territory.
John C Dvorak: That's the extent of her report on this which is
very lopsided because I want to play NTDs version. And this is
the AIDS aid un scandal in depth in TD
Unknown: really forces released a record a phone call that
alleges a Hamas controls United Nations relief efforts in Gaza.
Meanwhile, Hamas released a video that secretly recorded
Israeli troops before an unexpected turn of events and
disease. Jason Perry has the latest on Israel Hamas war
on Wednesday, Hamas terrorists released a video of what appears
to be Israeli troops recovering the body of a deceased soldier
while other troops were standing guard. A terrorist inside a
residence then throws a grenade at them and opens fire. Hamas
also released footage of another terrorist inside a residence
firing an explosive at an apparent Israeli tank. Hamas
terrorists not only control the Gaza Strip, but according to a
recorded phone call released by the IDF on Wednesday. Hamas also
controls the United Nations Relief and Works Agency or
UNWRA. In the phone call a Gazan resident explains that from the
day, Hamas rose to power they took control of everything.
And that's how I was looking at that we look at after
such a significant statement, the IDF officer asked him to
clarify what he meant
by Hamas, all he did was a female.
And when it comes to humanitarian aid, he said Hamas
provides it to their own people first. We reached out to own
room for comment, but we didn't get a response before airtime.
Meanwhile, Hamas security escorted this convoy of trucks
carrying humanitarian aid including fuel as it made its
entry into the Gaza strip from Egypt on Wednesday. Israel's
government spokesperson a lon Levy said this on Wednesday,
UN agencies are currently struggling to distribute aid at
the pace that Israel is inspecting it. Unfortunately, to
date, the UN aid mechanism in Gaza has been woefully
unsuccessful, because it goes through Onra aid simply isn't
reaching the people who need it, because Hamas hijacks it, and
Onra covers up for it.
Adam Curry: I just love this whole system. So we pay we
American taxpayers and we're taxed by inflation by money
printing so we pay for the bombs that create the mess. I'm not
saying that forget who side doesn't matter. But then we also
pay the United Nations for him to go in and give them aid. Why
are we so crazy? Why are we so crazy, bro? Why? We're paying
for everything you're paying for all of it, break it, verbalize
it, build it back up, verbalize it, take away the food and give
him some food. This is what we need to see. This is what we
need to understand back
John C Dvorak: to the UN scandal part two.
Unknown: He also gave this warning about Hezbollah's
continued attacks across Israel's northern border.
We are now at a fork in the road. Either Hezbollah backs off
from the Israeli border in line with UN resolution 1701 from
2006 or we will push it away now. ourselves,
Levy's comments come just a day after Hezbollah terrorist in
Lebanon fired an anti tank missile at a church in northern
Israel. The attack injured two Israeli Christians according to
the IDF. Then when Israeli troops responded to the injured
Hezbollah fired another missile at the church, injuring nine
Israeli soldiers. Just after the attack on Tuesday, the IDF
spokesperson accused Hezbollah of trying to drag Lebanon and
took the war Hamas had started. He said that if the attacks
continue, Hezbollah will bear the consequences and
responsibility of an unnecessary war. And it could bring unwanted
destruction to the people of Lebanon. Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, well, Lebanon doesn't need much more
verbalizing
John C Dvorak: Malaria is a mess and and
Adam Curry: of course now we have to always put it out there.
Fears of a widening war. In a
Unknown: video released by Israel's Air Force, a fighter
jet shoots down what Israeli officials say was a drone fired
from Yemen, your territory over the Red Sea, a sign of continued
escalation with Iranian backed Houthi rebels. It comes a day
after side Rosie Mousavi one of Europe's top advisors to its
Revolutionary Guard in Syria was reportedly killed and an Israeli
airstrike in the Syrian capital Damascus on Monday, killing tech
Ron vowed to avenge further and flaming fears that the Israel
Hamas war could engulf the region. But over the past 24
hours in Gaza, six Israeli soldiers have been pronounced
dead by the military. And over 240 Palestinians were killed and
multiple Israeli airstrikes. According to the Hamas run
Ministry of Health. Some victims so little, and so stop. They
don't cry out in pain. Sean Casey speaks for the World
Health Organization. We're seeing almost only trauma cases
come through the door and
it's quite difficult to believe it's it's a bloodbath as we as
we said before, it's carnage.
Across Gaza, there's no shortage of pain, as this little boy
cries out. Goodbye. In the southern city of Rafa tonight,
Palestinian medical workers buried roughly 80 bodies
released by Israel in a mass grave. The smell of decomposing
remains was so strong, they said they couldn't accurately count
how many
Adam Curry: good jobs CBS.
John C Dvorak: And by the way, that's that report and another
one where they had the guy saying it was a blood bath.
Yeah, he's standing in a fairly empty hall. In a hospital.
There's no blood anywhere. There are people going in and out, no
blood to be seen anywhere, including on him. And it looked
pretty calm to me. It reminded me of some of the early COVID
vids now that we saw where there was nothing going on. We're
getting bad information generally.
Adam Curry: Well remember what General Smedley Butler said, war
is a riser racket and it's that's what it is just war is
war is a racket, just making money. People be down why can't
we why can't we do get into the war business and Congo? There's
some good stuff. I mean, is there no money for these guys
Unknown: protests erupted in Congo today demanding a redo of
last week's presidential election. demonstrators took to
the streets of Kinshasa denouncing what they say was a
flawed vote. Police fire tear gas and threw rocks to break up
the crowds. One of the main opposition candidates also
accused police of firing live bullets. Protesters refuse to
give up.
That people are resisting marching is our constitutional
right. And it is not over because they need to take
responsibility for this chaotic elections. We won't back down
international
observers and rights groups have also questioned the elections
integrity. They cited polls that never opened or opened late and
many illegible voter cards. Final election results are
expected in the coming days.
Adam Curry: Oh, just wait for Congolese coming. We'll have
people from the Congo coming now.
John C Dvorak: Bring them in. Well, that could be that could
be Yeah. From the southern border. But why don't we? I
don't know that. It's like we don't want to get involved with
black African.
Adam Curry: Yeah, why not? Are they not human?
John C Dvorak: We just don't want to get involved. We got
involved with enough stuff
Adam Curry: now but you can never have too much stuff going
on. Now.
John C Dvorak: We can only do so much.
Adam Curry: Okay. But I think they could add a third war. I
think Janet Yellen would say we can easily have a third war we
can pay for that. No, and that's not a problem.
John C Dvorak: Is that your Yellin
Adam Curry: is pretty bad? It's not bad at all. So we do a three
by three
John C Dvorak: yes I do have a three by three that is about
let's start with ABC
Adam Curry: no b can't start at all until we roll out there now
it's time barred. Experiment by Jessie
Unknown: comparing ABC, CBS
and NBC
Adam Curry: you cannot kick off a three by
John C Dvorak: three without the D gore. Yes before we play the
first one I want to mention now it looks like when the show the
map of all the crap going on out there. We have five five bases
in Syria. Bases actual business. Let's take a look at this. ask
ourselves what? Right and I'm pro American. But what right do
we have to violate a sovereign state and just set up shop? Well
all over the place, because
Adam Curry: we're from Turtle Island back off.
John C Dvorak: Thanks. Weird.
Adam Curry: We're from Turtle Island. We're here to fix your
country. Tonight
Unknown: new images from us airstrikes on an Iran affiliated
militia after a Christmas Day attack on US forces in Iraq that
left three service members injured one of them critically,
those retaliatory strikes coming just hours after the US Erbil
airbase was hit with a self detonating drone in northern
Iraq. President Biden briefed on the attack immediately
afterward, ordering the reprisal. Tonight US officials
say those precision airstrikes likely killed a number of
militants affiliated with the group khateeb equally part of a
network of Iran backed groups in the region that have been
targeting US forces over Washington support for Israel.
This is very prevalent amongst the Iranians. It's how they
conduct business and it's very messy because they're using
forces that sometimes don't actually take direct orders. But
ultimately, it's to push back against the influence in the
United States. In a statement Secretary of Defense Lloyd
Austin, saying he and President Biden will not hesitate to take
necessary action to defend the United States, our troops and
our interests. There is no higher priority about 3500 US
troops remain in Iraq and Syria to prevent the resurgence of
ISIS. And since the start of Dawn estimates there have been
roughly 100 attacks against US personnel in the region. And in
Tehran protests this weekend after state media claimed an
Israeli airstrikes in Syria killed a top Iranian general
directly responsible for arming proxy groups in the region.
Tonight Iranian officials vowing revenge. Tonight, US officials
reporting what is at least the 16th attack in the Red Sea since
the start of the Israel Hamas war in the last 24 hours, a US
warship along with fighter jets shooting down a dozen attack
drones as well as several missiles launched by Iran backed
Houthi militants in Yemen. No ships were damaged. And there
are no reported injuries tonight.
Adam Curry: You know, I went back and looked at that footage
of the Houthis landing that helicopter on that ship, which
supposedly now is a tourist attraction.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I love it. Man
Adam Curry: that some of that footage just is unreal. It looks
so much like video game footage. It's not even funny. I'm not a
helicopter pilot. The way he landed I didn't even land he
hovers image. I mean there's a lot of stuff on the deck.
There's not there's a winch only landing zone so not a landing
zone for the helicopter. And the way he takes off is like it
seemed almost unreal. And then you look at the the Houthi
rebels in Chris brand new uniforms not a spot on them all
identical boots completely clean something is that is
John C Dvorak: off. I mean um things amiss very um
Adam Curry: and then the footage inside it actually you see a guy
in front of you it actually looks like video game footage.
John C Dvorak: They should have yes this
Adam Curry: this red game the Red Sea stuff is a scam and
there's a reason why France pulled out no one wants to be a
part of it because this somebody somewhere people know this is a
John C Dvorak: scam spreads and everybody else pretty much Yeah,
Adam Curry: but why don't they just saying hey, it's a scam.
You can't do that because it is
John C Dvorak: and when we can but doesn't mean you can go off
and say Ed was shooting down
Adam Curry: drones. Really?
John C Dvorak: The fun right? What
Adam Curry: is this and it let's let's define drone, okay, it's
not a Reaper drone. These these little drones? Yeah, with a bomb
on them.
John C Dvorak: That is something that's very awesome. Ganesh is
very very off with this and these reports are probably part
of it. Let's go to NBC.
Unknown: Tensions flaring in Iraq as the US conducted
precision airstrikes against three facilities used by Iranian
backed militias, the US military saying they killed multiple
fighters, defense officials sending a clear message to
militia groups and to Iran. The US strikes in retaliation for an
attack on Erbil airbase in Iraq on Christmas Day. US officials
say militants launched an attack drone that struck the base,
injuring three US troops, one in critical but now stable
condition and being transferred to launch tool. In a statement
Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said these precision
strikes are a response to a series of attacks against US
personnel in Iraq and Syria. There have been at least 105
attacks against bases with Americans in Iraq and Syria over
the past two months, causing minor injuries. These incidents
have dramatically increased since the October 7 Tomasi
attack against Israel rousing Iranian backed militia groups
throughout the region, including the Houthi rebels in Yemen who
have assaulted commercial ships. Just today US forces shut down a
dozen one way attack drones as well as ballistic this
Adam Curry: new this new new term, one way attack drones.
I've heard it before I haven't heard this before
Unknown: we've assaulted commercial ships. Just today US
forces shot down a dozen one way attack drones as well as
ballistic and land attack cruise missiles fired by the Houthis in
the Red Sea region. According to US Central Command, while
chortling in Israel last week, Secretary Austin warned of an
expanding regional conflict. Iran
is raising tensions by continuing to support terrorist
groups and malicious
attacks by these Iranian proxies threatened region citizens and
risk a broader conflict. Cordy joins us tonight live from the
Pentagon and there's a new warning from an international
watchdog group
about Iran's nuclear program. Yeah,
yeah, that's right. Tom. International Atomic Energy
Agency says Iran has sped up production of highly enriched
uranium material used to produce a nuclear bomb production slowed
earlier this year while the US and Iran negotiated the release
of hostage in fact, I would say bom bom, bom
Adam Curry: bom bom bom We can't risk it. Come on Lloyd Austin,
come on, come on man call for the bombs bomb.
John C Dvorak: So just to remind everybody's mind as to my
position on some of this. So they they're killing Iraqis,
basically. And the Iraqi Iraqi Government wants us out. And if
you listen to any Al Jazeera report, they're sick of it. And
they're, we're killing them. And they don't why why are we there?
We're supposed to be out of Iraq. But no, no, no, we have a
bunch of bases there. We have a bunch of bases in Syria. And the
Iraqis in particularly one Assad. I'm sure the Syrians do
too. And so we're bombing him doing what we have to fight
back. But we don't do jack about the drones in Yemen. We have We
know where they're coming from exactly what we pinpoint where
the rockets and drones recover? Why don't we bomb them? We
don't. Why don't we that adds to your adds credence to your
thesis that that whole Yemen thing is bullcrap. And
Adam Curry: don't we still have the base in Djibouti? Which is
right across the water? I
John C Dvorak: think we probably do. And whatever the case is the
Something's fishy about these reports. So let's go to CBS,
which is basically the same report with a variation or to
Unknown: the American bombs struck three locations in Iraq
in the predawn hours, leaving at least one dead and more than a
dozen injured. A US official told CBS News one target was a
warehouse believed to hold drones used by Iranian backed
militias to attack American troops. Drone fired at an
airbase in northern Iraq on Christmas Day, injured three
American service members, one of them critically, it's
a continuation though, Iran and Iranians supported groups or
Iranian aligned militias on on the ground in Iraq continuing to
push the boundaries and trying to identify where the red lines
are for the Americans. And in this particular case, I think
they found it do you
think the militias deliberately crossed that red line,
they're always pushing to try to see just how far they could go.
It was only
the fourth time the Biden administration has retaliated
for the more than 100 attacks conducted by Iranian backed
militias against American troop locations in Iraq and Syria.
Since Israel invaded Gaza. The Biden administration is treading
a thin line between retaliating and triggering a wider war with
Iran. The
US has been trying to avoid escalating the conflict, too
much damage and there's a risk of a massive and potentially
cast Traffic response that results in uncontrolled
escalation.
The war is also threatening to escalate in the Red Sea today in
110 hour period, an American destroyer and jet fighters from
the aircraft carrier eyes now, down to a total of 17 drones and
missiles fired a commercial vessels by the Iranian backroom.
Adam Curry: Camp Lemonnier a Illimani, a United States Naval
Base situated next to Djibouti International Airport. We've had
it since 2002.
John C Dvorak: centerpiece of Moines isn't a lot more Moin or
something like that
Adam Curry: limb on yay. The base supports Operation Enduring
Freedom Horn of Africa, as the centerpiece of a network of
around six US drone and surveillance bases stretching
across the continent. It is strategically located by the BB
l Mandeb. strait which we've heard that name, it's right
there. And yet, we can't figure it out. Though we can figure it
out. But we don't want to we don't want to
John C Dvorak: know I think it's worse than that is something
going on as Red Sea thing is, is good jacks up the price oil does
some benefit, though, is
Adam Curry: that what's the oil doing?
John C Dvorak: Well, it's going up, it's going up, you know,
like $8 but it's like it jacks up the price of oil is something
like you said scam ish about the whole thing. And that Yemenis
take over that ship, which is now a tourist attractions, which
people think we might have been joking about. But no, they're
actually shipping people out there and letting them float
around the ship as a tourist attraction, which is I can go to
it. And
Adam Curry: what is there to see it's just me and go
John C Dvorak: you could probably honk the horn and who
knows what you do
it's just there's a scam viciousness that just surrounds
all of this that is just besides soaking the taxpayer and
continuing the I have no idea what what the end game is.
Everybody denies that as created larger conflict because nobody
wants that supposedly
Adam Curry: I don't know it's it's no it's like disappointing.
It's like can't
John C Dvorak: quite put your finger on to something is up and
the Europeans did all bailed out with helping us they they know
something's up buddies don't they're not saying maybe
Adam Curry: they like the weird blowing our money on this
nonsense. And
John C Dvorak: that's always a possibility. But you know your
money being the reserve currency. It screws everybody.
So I don't know if that's true.
Adam Curry: Well, this is also good for for military style
stuff back here at home and in the hinterland in the homeland
because of course you need more security for New Year's Eve is
going to be dangerous red lights blinking this morning.
Unknown: New York City is getting ready for the biggest
party of the year.
More than a million people are expected to cram in a Time
Square to watch the ball drop on New Year's Eve. The mayor says
police will be prepared. There's
always a serious concern around safety in New Year's Eve because
there's a large number of people the police department is on top
of it. ABC
News has obtained a threat assessment by the FBI, NYPD and
other agencies that says the ball drop could draw interest
from malicious actors looking for targets of opportunity or
from Lone offenders inspired by or reacting to the ongoing
Israel Hamas conflict. The security plan includes 1000s of
officers miles of metal barricades plus drones, dogs and
hundreds of surveillance cameras all to keep the crowds safe. I
think it's a pretty safe bet that someone is going to try to
do something to distract or disrupt the events in Time
Square.
In recent years, though extremists have almost
exclusively targeted law enforcement or military
personnel. Just a year ago, at this very celebration, a young
man from Maine attacked police officers with a knife as they
worked a security checkpoint. It's real
Herculean task to manage that number of people without being
heavy handed, but being protective. Okay.
Adam Curry: All right. New York will be fine, I'm sure.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yes, sure. Will.
Adam Curry: You want to do a little bit of climate change for
a moment because there is some kind of hopeful news although
quite funny that PBS brought us
Unknown: and Beijing has recorded the most hours of below
freezing temperatures in December in more than seven
decades. A bitter cold wave and heavy 70 years I was in northern
and central parts of China.
Adam Curry: I was I've been watching these 70 years I've
watched the news reports and documentaries, about glaciation
and how that actually works. Yeah. And it's, it appears to be
inverse to the logic. When it's really cold. That's when the
glaciers actually recede in their normal cycle and when it
gets warm the glaciers grow. Have
John C Dvorak: you heard of this? No, not the way you're
describing
Adam Curry: I'm sure I'm not describing it correctly. But I
mean, an all we're seeing is the glaciers actually growing.
They're not melted that I know of. Yeah. That they're, they're
over, you know, like over like a 40 year period. They've grown
Yeah, they, of course, within the in the summer, they melt a
little bit, and that compacts and then they come back strong
as glacier just packed snow or whatever. Definitely
John C Dvorak: moving back and forth. No doubt about that. But
Adam Curry: anyway, with all of this
John C Dvorak: competent nail Gore clipped I don't have it on
here, but I don't get it.
Adam Curry: Oh, no. Oh, no, that's horrible. But what what
the what?
John C Dvorak: I don't know that remember? Clipping that clip? I
Adam Curry: don't know. Well, while you're looking for it, no,
I
John C Dvorak: don't sit on here. There's no way I can not
gonna find it.
Adam Curry: I would say Bill Gates knew it all along. We've
always said this is the way out and it looks like countries who
are afraid they're gonna get dinged for not being net
neutral. Carbon net neutral by 2030. They're wising up you
Unknown: can power is on a roll. In its latest success. Poland
has authorized the construction of 24 small nuclear reactors at
six sites across the country. And two, because electricity
production in Poland is one of the most carbon intensive in the
world, with still almost 70% of the electricity coming from
coal. Nuclear power is back in fashion in many countries,
because of its potential to decarbonize even energy
intensive industries quickly so Japanese who shut down the
nuclear power plants after the Fukushima accident in 2011, are
using them again, and are planning to build new ones to in
California environmentalists have stopped complaining about
nuclear power, and are now fighting to get the plants back
online. In Sweden, teenagers demand that Greenpeace drops the
resistance to nuclear power. And even the Germans are rethinking
their decision to phase out nuclear power.
John C Dvorak: Well, I think that's an optimistic report. I'm
not buying it because she's wrong about Fukushima played my
Fukushima clip.
Adam Curry: Oh, you have a Fukushima clip. But I don't know
if there's restarting Fukushima worse for you if you're trying
John C Dvorak: to but it's not restarted, she kind of implies
that it's been restarted. But here's the story.
Unknown: Moving closer to reopening the world's largest
nuclear power plant, which was shut down following the
Fukushima nuclear disaster in 2011. Earlier today, Japan's
nuclear regulator lifted its safety ban on the plant, which
is run by TEPCO. That's Tokyo Electric Power. Local government
bodies still need to sign off on the plants reopening.
Adam Curry: Okay, I mean, but in general, it seems like nuclear
is back in fashion. That's that's kind of correct. People
are thinking about it. Let's hope
John C Dvorak: so. I'm not completely buying into it. But
yeah, I've got a how many they say Poland wants to open
Adam Curry: six? Six SMRs? Or? Yeah, the little one? Yeah. The
teeny ones. That makes so much sense. Yes, those? Yes. Well,
John C Dvorak: we haven't opened one of those in this country
that I know of. No, no.
Adam Curry: Do you remember when 15 minutes cities and everyone's
like, Oh, 15 minutes cities and it'll be back. Everyone is
saying, Oh, this is conspiracy theory.
John C Dvorak: Conspiracy therapy. We're doing this yet.
Okay. No, we had clips of it. Of that. No, I know about the 15
Minute cities but I wouldn't know we had clips
Adam Curry: of people saying that they're going here. This is
the BBC. This is from April, the
Unknown: 15 minutes city for years. It's been a buzzword in
urban planning. But now the concept has gone mainstream and
become a magnet for protests around the world, from Canada to
the UK, with conspiracy groups claiming they're designed to
imprison us in our neighborhoods.
Adam Curry: It's all conspiracy theory. But But this cop 28 Man,
they're all over the 15 Minute cities. 15 minutes? Yes, yes.
With rapid here. This is from there. Well, you're
John C Dvorak: in a 15 minute city. When do you go in the car
more than 50 miles? I
Adam Curry: don't even get in the car. With rapid population
growth and urbanization cities around the world are
battlegrounds for our fight against climate change. The
latest IPCC report highlights integrated urban planning can
reduce emissions by 23 to 26% by 2050. Sprawling congestion must
be transformed into density and conductivity. pollution must be
restored to clean air and car dominated roads and highways
must give way to people centric streets who people centric
streets, clean nature friendly neighborhoods. And yeah, mulch
granny. emerging models like the 15 Minute city focus on urban
proximity and quality of life and representing a turning
point. And so there's this C 40 Network. Have you heard of this?
Okay, a network of 100 mayors of the world's leading cities is
increasing actions to accelerate the adoption of the 15 Minute
city highly livable, walkable people oriented cities, the
brother the green and thriving neighborhood program created in
collaboration with urban partners, provides deep support
to more than 40 cities to help them turn the 15 Minute cities
into reality into real Oh, see 40 That's those mayors also
launched a tool to measure the impacts of 15 minutes city with
Novo Nordisk what are those guys doing in it? Money so I looked
for this in their on their website this what Nigel Farage
is about to tell us so take that with a grain of salt. I came in
late, so I'm not sure if he's full of crap but typically he
he's able to back up what he says. Here's his lament about 50
of us the C 40 project and the 15 Minute cities we all love
jetting off to
Unknown: the Mediterranean somewhere warm it could be a
golf weekend family holiday boys stag do to Ibiza who knows you
name it? We love doing it. You've never heard of C 40 So
there's no reason why you should 96 cities involved including
London International Organization chaired by one city
comm given government funding their latest report is in order
to save the world from climate change.
Adam Curry: You should only be allowed one return airfare every
three years. I suggest you join me in telling city comm where to
go or is he right one return airfare every three years Oh
hope we hope we get to witness that. We're still doing the show
it'll be a great day. And I convinced right
John C Dvorak: not convinced. Well, what else we got? I got
I'm pretty much running out of stuff here I do have the gas
stoves thing wow this is a super we've heard this before but I'm
gonna play the super cut. Good gas stove super cut you may have
heard it is classic.
Unknown: You might think that the US government is coming for
your gas stove. That is a new and absolutely ridiculous one
that comes on Fox News and Republicans are up in arms
because they say the government is coming to take your stoves
what Republicans are saying is dammit they're gonna take your
gas though GOP have been stoking ridiculous new freecom about gas
stoves
no one is taking your gas stove.
It's a right wing freakout over the use of gas stoves is maybe
the latest in a long series of made up culture war battles
designed to enrage and rile up their right wing and paranoid
base.
publicans are prone to conspiracy theories, whether
it's, you know, the Kooky like JFK juniors coming back from the
dead to run with Trump or the sort of duplicitous like this
administration is coming to take away your gas stoves or stop
Adam Curry: for a second Yeah, we did play this was okay well,
I'll play I'll play it again but it
John C Dvorak: goes on and you want to play more just played
that one the gas stove story
Adam Curry: I wanted to say something about that report. So
remind me to come back to that because there's something I was
a guest of what I'm I'm looking forward I can't Oh where's it
where's
John C Dvorak: the get is I guess let me look. You said
Adam Curry: guest Oh story of guests go. Oh,
John C Dvorak: shoot. I
Unknown: got it. I got New York City is moving to snuff out
gassed of New York becoming the first state to ban natural gas
and other fossil fuels and most new buildings including gas
stoves. The new law requires all electric heating and cooking in
new building shorter than seven storeys by 2027 or Cathy Hoko.
And the democratic control state legislature approved a bill on
Tuesday prohibiting the use of fossil fuels for heating and
cooking. The law is the first statewide ban in the nation and
goes into effect in 2026. Beautiful,
Adam Curry: beautiful excellent so
John C Dvorak: all these guys all of them on MSNBC in
particular and also CNN going on and on and on showing off about
gas stoves and we're in the Republicans are all net and then
this happens and this is just the beginning. I know California
is gonna go for this it started with fireplaces. They stopped
him in all new housing development. You couldn't put a
fireplace in and as you're going to be guessed those next in
Washington State's easy to do that because half the state's
already all electric you
Adam Curry: know what we need to invest in Bunsen burners sterno
was storing oh what's lunch? Bunsen? What are those? Were
those cans storing up dirt
John C Dvorak: Oh what are you talking about? Oh yeah propane
Adam Curry: yeah oh yeah. Oh propane that'd be not what I
wanted to say is there's there's there's something in that report
of that supercut about JFK Jr. Coming back to run with us
people keep talking about this. And I you know, serious they
John C Dvorak: keep their they brought it back up because the Q
anon one of the Q anon guys died within the last Jedi died in
June or something. And he was the guy who promoted this and
had the big the big meeting in Dallas to to say hello to JFK
Jr. When he showed up. Of course, he never showed up of
course.
Adam Curry: Oh, what a what a bummer. He didn't show up. Oh,
no. So you mute
John C Dvorak: but this guy just died recently. And I think that
and I think he may have been Q anon because q anon has just
fallen off the the map places leader. Yeah. Well, I think
that's that's what you heard
Adam Curry: is that and there's one more of that is somewhat
troubling that people really really are going for this. All
the Victoria's Secret models are men. Taylor. Taylor Swift is a
man. Jennifer Aniston is now Jennifer Aniston. It's really
odd. I don't and it's a wonder why I don't know it's catching
fire though. It was like oh this all men and there are people
very serious about this. There's entire telegram groups that you
know oh yeah. Oh no, they're all men. They're dudes. Well, this
John C Dvorak: is like the birds aren't real.
Adam Curry: Well that's true. We all know that. And with that,
I'd like to thank you for your warning to you the man who put
the CD in the penta con ladies gentlemen say hello to my friend
on the other end the One Only Mr. John Cena
John C Dvorak: well in money new Mr. Adam curry in the morning
your ships and seeing boots on the ground and feet in the air
and subs in the water games are nice out there in the morning.
Adam Curry: Hanging out in the room at troll room.io Or you
might be listening on a modern podcast app.
I got him 616 5816 100 down.
John C Dvorak: Oh no. 200 200 down it says it was last same as
last week. I checked
Adam Curry: him about 20 minutes ago was 1733. So it's kind of on
par. We're kind of equal. Thanks. By the way, I think the
Swift up is over.
John C Dvorak: Oh, what happened? headline, Yoko
Adam Curry: swift doe fans mock video of Taylor Swift comforting
Brittany mahomes amid chiefs downfall. So she is now being
seen as the reason the Chiefs failed.
John C Dvorak: So so it was not the fact that the receivers
can't catch the ball. Dropping dropping. Number one team for
drop passes did not have to do it that the name
Adam Curry: Yoko swift toe says I like to go
John C Dvorak: swift Oh, coast Swift.
Adam Curry: You broke up the band man, Yoko swift toe. Well,
these trolls are hanging out in the troll room and you can join
them by going to troll room.io which is, which is a good place
you can get the live stream. There's live that we've started
revolution, really this live podcasting where people just
record instead of being like Phil Spector with a wall of
sound and recording and going back and removing every and Ebb
and cutting out silences making completely inhumane which is
part of the reason podcasts for the podcast winter. blame it all
on that and all this NPR people try well, and we do it and do
podcasts like we do NPR? It's great. It's gonna be fantastic.
No, no, just one.
John C Dvorak: Good, do it.
Adam Curry: Do it live. Do it live. Oh, here's the Hollywood
Reporter. I have I have a go podcasting report. Ready for
this? Yeah, going into 2020 for podcasting executives. But not
that would be you know, it's not me. Podcasting. Executives
remain incredibly bullish on growth in the sector, with an
actor in the sector, with an eye towards creating multiple
revenue streams for creators and using artificial intelligence
and video to expand the audience.
John C Dvorak: To the audience is going to be aI Yeah.
Adam Curry: Exactly what will soak the advertisers with AI
audience Exactly. I think you're right. I think you nailed it. So
you You can go to troll room.io And that's where you can, of
course, Listen Live and you control along. It's very
healthy, it's a good place for you to do it. Don't do this on
social media that's very bad. You are literally not loving
your neighbors as yourself when you do that. The word you're
bitching and moaning and saying horrible things. And that's okay
in a troll room because that's just like Tourette's. Just get
it out there to femoral rolls away. No one can call you on it
later. And it's a good place to let it all hang out. It's like
a, like a wailing wall. You know, just a place to go yell,
go yell at the clouds. Do it in the troll room, please. That is
the appropriate people yelling at me all day and I feel good
about it. Because I know Yeah. Oh, in the troll room. Oh, they
said horrible things. Like what? Give me an example trolls can be
something horrible that you give them
John C Dvorak: something trolls let it let him have it. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Let's see. Rap sucks. Okay. raps I swear to
you. Them sucks. We hate you see, this?
John C Dvorak: sucks. Yeah,
Adam Curry: there was only created an X with an X with an
X. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: of course. It's always with an X.
Adam Curry: Yes. Adam is gay. There we go. Your mom is gay.
JCD is ugly. All the chiefs are bang and swift. I mean, this is
great. Even Jesus thinks Adams conversion is annoying.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's a good one. I like that one. Well,
boy, that's the rest of them are lame.
Adam Curry: Let's create let's go Brandon. Yes. Okay, who cut
your hair curry. All right. All right. See? So that's usually
it's a little worse than that. But you know, the put them on
the spot. They kind of fall down. They choke this chokers
their doubt towards whether they're choke controls are
chokers, this show control. Choke controls. No good, y'all.
Anyway, that's the place to go. And you can also do that in a
modern podcast app don't fall for what the podcasting
executives say. Beaune, whatever they are. Yeah, well, it's the
Spotify, people who throw your favorite podcast off. It's
Google podcasts, which are closing and now you have to
import your subscriptions into into YouTube music. Oh, yeah,
that's right. So we're now gonna get him out and podcast, avid
podcast apps.com. And when we update the show, and we publish
it 90 seconds, your app is telling you that none of this to
our weight from Apple. Although Apple could be part of our
system, they just like climate change. They'd like to ruin the
world by polling feeds all day long.
John C Dvorak: And is that somebody that's just like, yeah,
that's that is a an issue. climate issue.
Adam Curry: It is a huge climate issue. It's I hear it's worse
than Bitcoin, which is
John C Dvorak: the same thing.
Adam Curry: I'm sure you have a value for value. Since we don't
count on AI or video to grow the audience, whatever that means.
And so we can monetize you. We don't like doing that. All we
want to do is just do the show. We want you to like the show.
And if you do send us some value back we call it the value for
value model. We pioneered it. We're very proud of it. People
are now using it in many different arenas. And that's
that's a good thing. It's a very good thing, then you can do that
through time, talent or treasure. Now we love it when
people promote the show hit people in the mouth. There's all
kinds of nice things you can do that none of that is ever shows
up on no agenda social. There's rarely anything nice there. But
you could create websites for that. Without a doubt Sir Paul
couture has done such a beautiful job in bringing back
the no agenda Art Generator, really appreciate the work that
he's that he's done on that to make it not just work again. But
he upgraded the whole thing. Then it has some spiffy little
spiffy little new additions, we got the leaderboard there you
can see which artists have been picked the most and we always
get the scholar, an entire smorgasbord of art to choose
from which is beautiful. Even if we don't choose your art. We
really appreciate that you did that for the show because new
art is what makes the show great. It makes it noticeable.
It gets people interested, and we want to thank dirty Jersey
whore for bringing us the artwork for episode 1619 That
was titled flash to bang. Now I got an explanation of flash to
bang flash to bang from K OG phonebook. OGFO MK flash to bang
is an artillery term for visually seeing a flash and then
as the sound travels you can assess how far away the
explosion is by the speed of sound.
John C Dvorak: Yes like doing lightning you can figure out how
far away the lightning flash
Adam Curry: the bank count flash the bank, I guess it's probably
one second for every kilometer I think or every mile.
John C Dvorak: run everything mile per second.
Adam Curry: Oh, before I forget one of our you know, the the no
agenda logo, which is you know, classic with the with the, I
think what is our classic with is that with the microphone, the
M five
John C Dvorak: with the microphone the the cross through
it,
Adam Curry: and that is on on a race car. That race car is
driven by Ashlyn SPIE Ashlynn.
John C Dvorak: Speed, I put a link to the video that her dad
posted. Very good video of Ashlynn and and yeah, yeah, they
got our sticker on there. Yeah. And it is a killer driver. She's
gonna be very famous. She's
Adam Curry: gonna be incredibly famous. We are very proud to be
on her car. And she her dream is indie. And I think she can make
that. She's there looking for sponsors for 2020s. Or like 17
or something. Yes, yes. And she does lap records and everything.
Yeah. And she just, I think we can say badass. And you know,
that's the kind of if, anyway, I think people should if you're
into the you're into sponsoring cars, that's a driver, you want
to look out for him. We're very, very proud to have that free
publicity on her car. And it's prominently displayed displayed
in that documentary. I might add, like, Oh, look at that.
There's no agenda logo. So back to dirty Jersey whore. He
brought us the Santa Claus with the nice list and we were both
on it check marked. It was interesting because it it was
not the actual format that we typically like or typically the
the template was,
John C Dvorak: it was yes, it was different. Yes. No
Adam Curry: agenda at the top and then you have Craig vorak
down below. This was the No, it was the no agenda. Nice list. I
liked that Santa had the mic and he had the headphones. I was
kind of cute because there was a lot of Santa art. A lot of
Christmas art. We always do that when it comes Christmas time.
And let's see some of the things we've looked at other people I
John C Dvorak: got a kick out of like next to that too. Over. Is
the black swan inspired and instead of a black swan is a
black duck. Yes. Just thought that was written into next to
Santa here at this nice list. One is that picture of Taylor
Swift. Yeah, not done by AI generator here. Darren, this is
gonna be the future of a lot of this stuff. Yeah, well, so we're
just everything's AI I mean, number of original pieces on
here is minor. Yeah, this is
Adam Curry: true. It's going away. There was a merry
christmas goat. Just kind of cute, but we're more we're
traditionalists. So we did talk for a while about Martin J Jays
Santa with a big candy cane. If you recall that one. Yeah. But
why didn't we pick that?
Unknown: Where is it? It's
Adam Curry: it's down near the bottom there
John C Dvorak: on the ball Yeah, well, I thought we didn't Yeah,
you're right because Martin JJ decided to come back from the
dead and produce some art he was dominating the whole thing for a
long time. Yeah, I think it was because it was it didn't have
the kind of flair that the naughty nice list did it which
is something original. This was very I would say unoriginal it
was just
Adam Curry: a it was kind of a nice yeah, just a nice Santa's
pic Yeah,
John C Dvorak: yeah, it was a nice pic. It was dynamite. And
it couldn't be used, but it wasn't didn't have any any
oomph. I think I
Adam Curry: would say the the close second disgust for sure
was the Jewish Christmas with yes this what
John C Dvorak: if it wasn't for the fact that it was Christmas
Christmas Christmas we left for real Christmas sorry, the Jewish
Christmas one which was in done in Chinese style lettering. With
a Merry Christmas and a Jewish star on a Chinese takeout
container. Yeah. Absolutely funniest piece by correct a
record of all the pieces but it was a little more than we could
probably know wasn't going to happen but we appreciate it
humor. We
Adam Curry: did. I even sent it to Horowitz. He thought bless
you. He thought it was pretty funny. Because I said where are
you going to? Bless you. Oh, you got cool. Sorry. You got the
coop.
John C Dvorak: We got the sneeze you got the coop. I know
Horowitz woody I was gonna send him a copy of it. But I bet you
did. Yeah, so definitely funny.
Adam Curry: Thank you dirty Jersey whore. We appreciate what
you do there. We thank you so much for putting that together
for us. Thank you of course to all of the artists for all of
the artwork that you do and for all producers, anyone who's
delivering time talent treasure, we appreciate you so much that
is what kept that has kept us on the air and we continue to do so
as long as the value flow goes both ways is we're providing you
values in the back the show continues. It's that easy was
just like a whorehouse. I don't know. What did I say that? I'm
not sure why. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Disgusting.
Adam Curry: Let's thank our executive producers and
associated executive producers kicking it off with Sir otaku
from Flower Mound, Texas, who comes in with a cool oh, this is
uh, this was for the 123123 promotion. Yeah. Tell us about
this promotion. What is it? Because he's early on this? No,
John C Dvorak: no going on me. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: typed the newsletter, you put it in the
newsletter, I
John C Dvorak: put it in the newsletter 123123 Because at the
end of the year, the as we wrap up the year, on Sunday, it's
going to be 123 That's 12 three, one, which is to throw 3123 And
you put it up and it's 123123 and everybody, according to I've
told you to meet me about this. She says that Vegas is loaded to
the gills with people getting married on 1231230 I can imagine
that and I didn't think about it but yeah, because you want to
get married I've my recommendation. So you never
miss an anniversary. You want to get married on something that's
memorable.
Adam Curry: Yeah, like 88888
John C Dvorak: yeah as me 88888 Can't can't go wrong. So
Adam Curry: sir otaku actually did not come in with the with
the precise amount and he has a reason for it. He says John and
Adam. Here's my donation of 123023 so I misread it there to
celebrate my upcoming 60th birthday on 1230 2023 Do you
have such a thing as the birthday Club? Well no we read
your your we we sell it we congratulate people on birthdays
and you're on the list. If not Oh Then here's to a great year
of media deconstruction from two of the best in the universe. Can
I get in a JCD mac and cheese karma with a little girl yeah,
sir otaku Duke of North Texas and the Red River Valley kilo
five Victor Zulu 70 threes
John C Dvorak: you slaves get used to mac and cheese macaroni
and cheese melted together mac and
Unknown: cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese mac and cheese
everybody
you've got karma
John C Dvorak: so we have this one of the few times we do this
Jay did this she said she could do it she's
Adam Curry: really going above and beyond with this stuff.
John C Dvorak: Yeah as you will and we do not want people doing
this because it's very risky. But yeah, because we forget or
it gets lost or whatever but we did get the certificate off and
everything and I'll read this from from a guest as Molly
rubbish. It has something to do with Casey Pakula please do not
read this information until after Christmas as it is a gift
to Ross rubbish from his son Tynan who has been hit in the
mouth and made his father proud by being a dedicated no agenda
listener. We would like Ross to receive the PhD certificate
immediate deconstruction to proudly display in his office.
But if this is no longer available, knighthood would be
very appropriate. No, we got you got your knighthood you got your
certificate. Night name is Ross, the boss of broken ladder ranch.
I assume he's on today's list. Yes. And it was a surprise. Ah,
so I think that they got the certificate and put it under the
tree. So I think it all worked out.
Adam Curry: And you know that for Christmas. One of my gifts
Tina framed my PhD. Oh, that's sweet is good. And then we
haven't done this ever either. But since they sent it, Jeff
Larson, who was deed donation came in from his wife. I think
it was on the last show. I mean, I think was the last show.
Here's here's his response when he found out I lifted you were
douchebags Oh my god. Did I miss it? They ran away on purpose. So
there wouldn't be like already happened. Oh my god. Did you
send that message?
This is the joy did the no agenda show Brian
John C Dvorak: I think he should be one of the judges on the
masked singer.
Adam Curry: did write it He'd be perfect. We have a switcheroo
from Luca Marissa as Beto from Switzerland. Is this
Switzerland? No. Yes. Switzerland so Vasa I must be T
roll. I guess I thought it was Austria. It
John C Dvorak: Tyrell was it I think is where it is got
Switzerland as the Yeah. And he says Switzerland. Three,
Adam Curry: three 3.33 switcharoo donation on behalf of
Marty from Alton, Switzerland, who was to OTG to do it himself.
His message related my Merry Christmas back from a filthy
pervert. No jingles, no karma. All right. All right, we got
you. We got your switch root out, ma'am. And
John C Dvorak: then we go right to Michael Kellner in Ripon,
California 33333. And he says, Thank you. No jingles, no karma
and we think that's a winner. That is
Adam Curry: a big winner compared to the next one
warranties Essex Maryland 33333 also a switcheroo for James
Franklin of Midland, Texas. We'll do that. In the morning,
gentlemen and happy new year. I've been a listener for a
decade. Wow. And have a battered coffee mug with the missing
handles approve it. Thanks for keeping on maybe
John C Dvorak: can't be decades.
Adam Curry: Why not? Oh, it says a decade doesn't need a decade
I've been a listener for a decade it can be thanks for
keeping our Migdol small hit. My best friends are Darius unity
Darius Dickerson in the mouth in 2018. With this donation, he's
deduced me by proxy. You've been de deuced. I've suggested to the
appropriate parties that when Texas becomes independent again,
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how the rest goes Keep up the good work mates and thank you
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i got these things out for a reason what is happening? Sorry
about that. For some reason this clip is failing. So I will try
it this way
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs
John C Dvorak: next we have Dennis Barnes of Sacramento,
California. 33333 and no note no anything so he gets a double up.
Unknown: He's got karma
Adam Curry: we you know, but before we continue, I want to do
a special a health karma for Dred Scott. He has got something
going on. You've got karma. We love you. DREW.
John C Dvorak: How about Darren? Is he sick?
Adam Curry: Yes. He think he got the Cuf Oh no. I got one for
Darren Here we go. You've
Unknown: got karma Ryan
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John C Dvorak: Jim, battled in Davenport, Iowa. Thank you for
the sanity over the years I fully appreciate the work you to
do. My mother was recently diagnosed with breast cancer and
I'm requesting healing prayers for Katie bout sold from the
amazing no agenda gives women a sneezy and audience and an F
cancer please I hit her in the hit her in my dad in the mouth a
few years ago and they are now avid listener. She listens at
night and ends up falling asleep by the donation segment. So I
hope she makes it to this one. Her birthday was on the 29th
November so please give her a belated biscuit. And my dad
loves the Pelosi jobs come with regards Jim.
Adam Curry: Okay, so we have to have a biscuit. Katie Katie bats
all wake up wake up.
Unknown: They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Jobs,
jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's karma.
Adam Curry: Everything there. We have Christie J. from Huntington
Beach, California, two four 6.33 There's an explanation 123 times
two and 33 for good measure. Happy year end Christy J. Thank
you.
John C Dvorak: John caliber in Milwaukee, Wisconsin two three
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greetings gents my Lady's birthday is on 1230 It's always
hard to think of more gifts. So close to Christmas so I was
hoping what a birthday on 12 Dirty Yes, it's a life of
misery. So I was hoping to get her a biscuit
Adam Curry: Oh hold on another biscuit we're running out they
always
John C Dvorak: give me a biscuit on my birthday and a deed
douching you've been de deuced I hit her in her mouth they wrote
on a road trip two years ago and is the first thing we listened
to in the morning after show day cheers to many more years love
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Adam Curry: I didn't get it. I
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Adam Curry: all right then we have a donation here of 202 from
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long. And he wants jobs karma go karma jobs and go karma and JCD
donate let's throw some money at this to make it stick had I done
it correctly? I would have had an executive producer credit. I
spent the better part of weak priming my little bro for being
called out as a douchebag I guess we'll do that for Jameis
only to be called out myself for under donating he left his ass
off and told me that's what you get. Let's be clear, I'm not a
cop. 28 elite and I can't really afford this but whatever. I love
this show and it's long overdue. I'm no longer douchebag but man
when I heard JCD call out their donation before me on show 1619
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Unknown: Oh no,
Adam Curry: I had my earbuds in was dropping my shitzu off for
grooming at PetSmart Petsmart because I didn't want to miss my
call out and a little bro being called out. Wow, something went
wrong there. Anyway, he says too many eggs is a great book too
many too many eggs.com tried out some recipes this week and my
boys tried deviled eggs for the first time. They're picky.
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Brunetti will hate that. Okay, of course, there brunette
Associate Executive Producer. No, he doesn't like that. And
that is it for Executive Associate Executive producers
for episode 1620. Right before right in between Christmas and
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John C Dvorak: meeting the executive producer day you have
the man to 127 17 which is I don't know what that refers to.
But Edward Jennings comes in with the same amount of 127 17.
And so does sir foam finger number one 127 17. No, not sure.
Come up with that. Oh, I see. This is the this is the 123
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everybody pointed out 123123 Sir Lucas in Federal Way, Washington
10101. Valerie ray in Plano, Texas. $100 Anonymous, I'm
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Adam Curry: nunim Noona noonim. New noon. Eminem. New Name.
John C Dvorak: No Nam dad nailed it. Oh 65
Adam Curry: This next one go.
John C Dvorak: Gigawatt Coffee Roasters. He's got it right.
Yeah, in Bensenville Florida. Okay. I got mine by Tm 20 for
the 20% off orders at gigawatt coffee. roasters.com. So, the
Cameroon is quite good. And I also think they would have had
chitin key, which refers to Ben Franklin, I think is also
noteworthy. Those are two you might want to look for I have
not I haven't gone through all I have not
Adam Curry: tried any of them. But our guests love them. They
love this coffee. So I gave him ITM 20 for 20% off. No good.
Yeah. And you're go by your own. So I said David
John C Dvorak: Groff in Wyoming, Ohio. 6180 Fibonacci number by
the way. Kevin McLaughlin is back. 606 small boobs. Were no
comment. Zoe Carlson Stadler in Austin, Texas. 62 is the Eric
and from his Rockstar sisters. How sweet is it? Zoe? Zoe? Zoe.
Adam Curry: I think Zoe, I think it's so I'm saying Zoe.
John C Dvorak: I think he's always got a Y on it. No,
Adam Curry: it hasn't. Uhm, loud
John C Dvorak: established dot Hunter stabler.com I don't know
what that is, but it's in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania,
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. 5555 Sure, Tigger Max in Vera Dale
Washington 5432 Cameron Knapp NET app, a 51 John Walter in
Wenatchee Washington. 50 Oh with the 50s There's a lot of 50s
today and we're going to read them name and location starting
with John then fall Lyon farm and Columbus Georgia and Amy
Grohl and Buren. Right by the airport. Angel vallario in San
Diego. Got a bunch of call outs here. As a Christmas gives us
switcheroo for Jeff Larson. He's no longer a douchebag so he
needs a deed douching bad deed deuced Scott McCarty and Lodi,
California 50 Jack Schofield in yankeetown, Florida, sports
Scott Brinkley in Christiansburg. Virginia, Brian
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Seattle, Aaron wise Gerber in Bend, Oregon, John Taylor in
Florissant, Colorado, Michael Elmore, and glass Stoney in
North Carolina, Richard Gardner, who I believe is in New York Sir
Richard David Hall in Bessemer, Alabama ZEV green in Teaneck,
New Jersey and last on our list is Paige Holland, in San
Antonio, Texas. Want to thank all these people who are making
show 1620 decent show good show. Yes,
Adam Curry: we love doing these shows. And we'd love everybody
who comes in under $50 just as much because that's our value
for value works. No matter what you have to give as long as the
value you got from the show, and we can't determine what's in
your pocketbook, then we're happy with that. So thank you
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again for supporting us here for episode 1620
Unknown: Our formula is this. We go out we had people in the
mouth.
Adam Curry: Shem that sold wishes his mom Katie and belated
Happy Birthday celebrate on the November 29. While you are late
Jim Ryan Powell wishes Carolyn Hafner, a very happy one. Her
birthday was on her 50th birthday was on December 18th
Jake Warburton turns 42 today and Cerro Taku turns 60 on the
30th and John calibre wishes Anna EBA Happy Birthday her
birthday is on the 30th of December happy birthday for
everybody here the best podcast in the universe. So we
congratulate Rosh rubbish. Is that how we pronounce his name
rubbish rich?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, rubbish. I'm gonna make a comment about
the birthdays first. So I got a note during the show from Ryan,
who wanted to wish Carolyn Hafner birthday, but we call it
in the last show he called her Mrs. Powell and he's not married
even though he's thinks she's the greatest thing since sliced
bread. He says so I'm saying marry her. Do yourself a favor.
Adam Curry: Get it over with just do it. Just do it, bro. So
Ross got that beautiful surprise the PhD along with a knighthood.
So that doesn't just come with something in the mail brother.
No, no, we bring out the swords for our knights.
John C Dvorak: He's our knight for the day game. Here you go.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's right here. So Ross Robins Get your butt up
on stage right here on the podium. You're about to join all
of the other no agenda knights and names here at the roundtable
and I'm very proud to pronounce the cape v as Sir Ross the boss
of broken bladder ranch. That's right. For you. We have a very
nice assortment of accouter moms. We have hookers and blow
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Knights and Dames no one
well asked me did I hear you open up a can?
John C Dvorak: Not really. Oh, but you didn't hear the phone
room?
Adam Curry: It was the phone ringing. I thought you were
opening a show beer? I'm sorry.
John C Dvorak: No Show.
Adam Curry: Why don't you go answer the phone and
John C Dvorak: I will answer the phone were
Adam Curry: you about to tell us that so as part of the people
are trying to make you feel lonely and trying to get you on
its own. So you don't want to be dying of loneliness, which is,
of course been propagated by the entire pharmaceutical industry.
Everyone's trying to get you to feel lonely and feel bad. So you
can do a couple of things. You can go to church, synagogue, the
mosque or you could go to a note no agenda meetup if that's what
you think you might enjoy that even if you do all those other
things. This is where you will meet your people. Part of your
clan people who listen to the show part people who feel like
they're kind of different from the rest and believe me you are
but you will meet fellow travelers at a no agenda meetup.
They are held all over the world on almost every single day of
the week. It is completely producer organized. No agenda
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you send a report to us even if you had a very small meetup
Knoxville post Boxing Day Meetup is an example
Unknown: below this is number array and prepare yourself for
the big coast. Boxing Day beat up. Everybody is here in the
morning is Billy Bones and Bravo boxing gloves to hit people in
the mouth and no one showed up. Okie dokie.
Adam Curry: All right. At least he got Billy Bones out there.
We're happy that happened. We have a meetup taking place
today. The end of year started the trip that is in Indonesia so
it's probably already over. That would have been an SV H spa in
Lombok Indonesia Manish is right near Bali a sure hope we get a
meet up report from those guys. We have Ireland Yes, I told you
it's all over the place at the railway Social Club had a meet
up at Rosslare Harbor, county, Wexford, Ireland hopefully get a
meet up report from them. Tomorrow the frozen hellscape
meet up 630 At anglers Bar and Grill in Hayward, Wisconsin. We
have another Ireland's oh my gosh, the Kestrel tomorrow at
doesn't have a time but it will be in Dublin, Ireland Muppet
head is organizing that and on Saturday, the KC meet up the
supple wrist edition 333 at 403 Club Kansas City Kansas just a
few of the meetups taking place between now and New Years. Part
of your no agenda show and of course we'll be back to give
some of those reports hopefully to you on New Year's Eve no
agenda meetups.com connection is protection you owe it to
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nation go to no agenda meetups.com If you can't find
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sometimes you
Unknown: go hang out with all the Dyson days. You'd be
triggered you wouldn't be everybody feels the same. It's
like
Adam Curry: it's so like a party. It really is. It's always
a party. It's good party. It's a good time. Ask around people
will tell you what do you you have another noisemaker Oh, boy,
I got two ISOs I'll play him for you right now. Play mine first
because you're gonna win I don't know if I'm gonna win you only
have one I only have one Okay, here we go. So don't limit the
Lumia to shopping for this thing you know it's probably something
really horrible in Arabic so I'm
John C Dvorak: thinking it is something
Adam Curry: from afraid to play that one. I do have this good
luck with podcasting. I don't like the end of it but good luck
with its flips a little bit luck with podcasting.
Unknown: I just don't think so. Good.
Adam Curry: What? Well, you heard it, good.
John C Dvorak: cucina. Podcasting, podcasting.
Adam Curry: Okay, good luck with podcasting. And now it's time
for Google. To see now we looked at the we have some actual
player data were able to see and what we noticed is that people,
there's a little drop off during the donation segment, but people
come back to listen To the good news segment, I think
John C Dvorak: that coming back to listen to the ISO challenge.
Adam Curry: Well, they're staying for the good news
segment. So I'll take it. What do you have today, John, for
your good news.
John C Dvorak: We have a story from Midwest. Save
Adam Curry: your glasses on and look,
John C Dvorak: it's the Christmas miracle. Now wait a
minute, where you play it. We've had animal stories. Yeah, we've
had people stories, babies and tornadoes story. We have
everything so far, but we haven't had this kind of
Christmas miracle. The Holidays
Unknown: had a rocky start for the Hansen's but getting their
car back just in time for Christmas, they say is the best
gift they could ask for. We got the news that it was stolen
right after Thanksgiving. The only thing worse than having
your car stolen is having it happen around the holidays. So
it was gut wrenching. Matt And Christy Hanson love their 9095
accurate Integra so much. They invested $18,000 And we're
storing it for their son. But their plans vanished when it was
stolen from a body shop on November 29. It would be the
best Christmas miracle. And that
was one of the things that she had said that it would really be
a Christmas miracle to make their Christmas if, if they were
able to find their car. Travis Christiansen
saw the story on KSL. But no one could imagine what happened
next. It
was like a needle in a haystack on a
work drive. Travis spotted the car tucked behind a building and
Taylorsville just
got a closer look at the car and thought Man, this really looks
like the car. And so I was able to go and dig up the KSL
article. He
messaged me, I think I found your car. He sent some pictures.
I couldn't believe it. He didn't want any of our reward money. He
was just happy to get our car back. I felt
really good to be a part of that and helping them help get that
car back to him. So they could they could drive it, enjoy it
and continue to make memories with it. Travis
knows firsthand what it's like to have a car stolen, making
this experience that much better.
It's a really fun story to be a part of.
This is another chapter in this cars story.
As for the Hansen's they plan to pay it forward,
I think that's a reminder that we can help other people more
than we know.
Now, as you heard Travis isn't interested in that monetary
reward, but he says he really wants to take a picture with the
family. And of course the red Acura I'm going to make here KSL
five news.
Adam Curry: Oh, isn't that nice? You could have cut it down by 30
seconds.
John C Dvorak: I realize it's under two minutes. I'm good with
it. Well,
Adam Curry: it was a nice miracle a Christmas miracle the
red Christmas miracle read accurate as back Oh, I'm so
happy.
Unknown: A good news story from JCD had the vibes for you and me
and we all feel better now he's done his bit. To back to
reality. That's turning to shit.
Adam Curry: Good news, everybody. You know, it's a good
balance. I like doing these good news segments. It makes
everybody feel good. It does people feel good. Don't Don't
you feel good by by playing the good news segment.
John C Dvorak: I think it's dynamite segment if it's getting
people to listen, so that now they have to listen to in the
show mixes which are usually better than than the good show.
Oh,
Adam Curry: they're always better than the good news.
John C Dvorak: We are better than half the show.
Adam Curry: We got Professor JJ checking in from China. He's got
an under Show mix. We got Leo Laporte. I'm sorry Leola puke.
Wow, that would have been amazing. I don't know how that
came up all of a sudden must be on my mind. And we got Sir Chris
Wilson, bringing you and of show mixes right here and coming up
next on no agenda stream.com or troll room.io If you're
listening there or in that bottom podcast that bowl after
bowl was Sir Spencer and Dame DeLorean. And I am coming to you
from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. It's here in FEMA
Region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain
I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Go back to your mass singer.
John C Dvorak: Bass singer,
Adam Curry: and remember us at the vorak.org/and A or no agenda
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who we who and such I took my troubles down to
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is a virus people to power with as a singular cold on the
citizens. Why would you not know nine Danka tanks proud genocide,
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calls a vibrant democracy as a cobra ISIS of children clothes
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when citizens voted the wrong way in a referendum in Ireland
they're made to false again defenders of democracy like we
grew up in Brussels and that government is crushed no that
close Mercer von der Leyen would not sprout genocide is
misinformation out there love to know without a single vote from
the citizens
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we have 12 years for this planet is going to suffer irreversible
damage I was considered crazy the world is going to end in 12
years as far as private jets are concerned would you want to ban
those? Well
it was most to 12 years without a major hurricane right after Al
Gore told us we're gonna have Katrina's every year and we're
all going to dump they told us back then that we had about 10
years and that was 14 years ago now they started a new timeline
they started the clock over again it's like turning the
hourglass upside down then you know Margaret Hamilton with a
flying monkey next to him. This
Adam Curry: is for real. It is not made up. weeks ago, it was a
breeze outside
Unknown: we have 12 years to turn this around. Oh
we need some form of warming. It's freezing. We're going to
die with a your
Utah time wisely, watch Spaceballs grim, grim movie with
a shawl to be with you.
Adam Curry: Adios mopho.org/in A good luck with podcasting.