John C Dvorak: You take him off the ballot to protect a
democracy. Adam curry,
Adam Curry: John C. Devora. December 24 2023. In this short
horn winning nation media assassination episode 1690. This
is no agenda, making a list checking it twice. broadcasting
live from the heart of a Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region
number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley, where I've
concluded that broadcasting live sports events over streaming
services doesn't work. I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg bobbin Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: That fast action bringing you down, getting that
ghosting, getting that trailing getting that not so good
picture.
John C Dvorak: No, I said, what happens?
Adam Curry: Oh, what's the problem? Then?
John C Dvorak: It's just crashes.
Adam Curry: It crashes? What are you watching? Is it YouTube?
John C Dvorak: Let's just quickly Okay, the the NFL, which
is a corrupt organization, the way I see it, they just take
whatever, whoever throws money. I am looking at Taylor Swift.
Yes. Whoever throws money at him. And so the Amazon decided
to stream live football on Thursday nights. Okay. And
nobody likes these Thursday night games anyway, so I'll let
Amazon do it. So there's live stream, it doesn't work. It
doesn't load. It's an Oh, go to Amazon help. You can't get your
video, and then it loads all of a sudden, you'll get a bit of
it, and then it's crashes with a message. Something happened.
Okay. So you have to go back and reload.
Adam Curry: It doesn't say something went wrong. Yes,
something went wrong. That's my favorite message. Yes. Some
John C Dvorak: you've seen that?
Adam Curry: Not during sports ball. But yes, I've seen this.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well, Amazon is overwhelmed. Their Prime Video
is out of control. And yes, you see that message. I tried to
watch your reach here. I had similar problems. But when you
try to watch the Thursday night football game, except I suppose
in some areas, it's almost impossible because it's all
going through one small pipe. Normally a football game is
distributed all around the country through local stations
over the air and even on local cable is easy. It gets
distributed, it's fine. It's not one thin pipe, you know, where
everybody has to go to this pipe to get their stuff. This is a
stupid idea. And they're going to promote it even more, because
I guess they just did a game recently, where they streamed a
football game on the peacock network. I don't even know how
to get that. And nobody watched it. This is unbelievable. This
is unacceptable. Jhansi de Bourgh X
Unknown: diva today wow,
Adam Curry: this twice in a month. Start off with a
complaint let's go and well, you know, it's clear we need to do
we need to buy up a whole bunch of those local OTA stations and
then and start broadcasting live sports. I mean, we'll have of
course we'll have to be badminton with what we can
afford but it'll be a start. We
John C Dvorak: can we can do if we can do it with a fund
Adam Curry: everybody you know everybody has a TV that will do
everyone's TV does that you just got to get your $12 antenna
Don't you think is genius idea
John C Dvorak: and people are flocking to over here? Yes, I
Adam Curry: think we have an exit strategy. Wow.
John C Dvorak: Do you have an over the error connection? Yes,
of course. You know I have that. Where is where are your channels
coming from?
Adam Curry: Oh ma'am. All over. San Antonio. Austin. Burnie see
there's another one. Those are the big ones. Oh, I have over
100 stations.
John C Dvorak: Beautiful over the air OTA OTA, OTA, going OTA
I'm an OTA Oh,
Adam Curry: everybody standby. Again, it's that time of year.
That's right. It's Christmas. One is Christmas time. What do
we do? We scare people this
Unknown: morning with three days before Christmas law enforcement
on alert reporting the most challenging threat environment
since 911. Tied to the ongoing war between Israel and Hamas.
Oh no Tober sevens. The FBI has received more than 1800 reports
of threats or other types of tips or leads that are somehow
related to or have a nexus to the current conflict in Israel.
Oh god.
Oh, no FBI now has 100 active full scale investigations tied
to that middle east car. Stop.
John C Dvorak: Who is that woman she has that? Bradley Lisa
Monaco Susan Rice to Lisa Monaco.
Adam Curry: You nailed it. That was Lisa Monaco and get this Now
what
John C Dvorak: else on Foreign Relations creep?
Adam Curry: Yeah. And what is she wearing?
John C Dvorak: A funny sweater.
Adam Curry: No, a red, a red blazer? Because you know she's
important. Go go go and go out on the street. The point to me
how many women are walking around with a red blazer on? I
have never seen one. You only see it in Congress and with
douche bags and of course, Santa Claus, Mrs. Claus, which may may
be a subliminal message, but the women who wear these red
jackets, sometimes it's yellow. They
John C Dvorak: the right No, it's mostly red. It's
Adam Curry: a power play. It's a power play, and she's sitting
there with Pierre. Well, Pierre, we got some threat vectors
threat environments, it's very dangerous. 1800 tips and
Unknown: officials also reporting a spike in threats to
public officials, agents and police now investigating violent
threats against the Colorado Supreme Court after its ruling
disqualifying former President Trump from running for office.
citing his alleged role in the January 6 insurrection. Trump is
expected to appeal that ruling to the US Supreme Court as soon
as next week. The Deputy Attorney General telling me in
an ABC News exclusive. That's the public officials are at a
level they've never seen before. Oh,
is an unprecedented public officials across the board. Oh,
Pierre, we've had cases involving threats to kill FBI
agents, a Supreme Court justice and three presidential
candidates and a couple podcasts.
To be clear Monaco and other top law enforcement officials,
including the FBI director are saying there's no reason to
panic. Oh, all of the foreseeable future and through
the holiday.
Adam Curry: But don't panic. No. ABC New York took this and went
to the streets, their very own streets because not only do we
have Christmas, we also have New Year's, and we have Trump to be
honest about it. We got all kinds of stuff there. Now let's
just listen to how the local newscaster starts it off by
saying there's no evidence of anything going on but
Unknown: we have covered the holiday weather forecast the
holiday travel situation now the more troubling angle and yes,
there is no confirmed terrorist threat in our area for either
the Christmas holiday or in New York City. But intelligence
agencies and security experts believe that with the war and
chaos in the Middle East we are in a kind of danger zone we
can't New York Minute ignore
you'll find an increased police presence in Times Square this
year. Both officers you'll see and once you don't even know
where the Wait
John C Dvorak: Wait Stop, stop stop. Is this different than any
other New Year's Eve ever increase police presence?
Adam Curry: Oh, of course it's not different. This
John C Dvorak: exactly the same as it's always been an increased
police presence during New Years.
Adam Curry: I will say in 1987 New Years 1987 When I had just
freshly arrived at MTV, my first gig, not just something for
Halloween for them. But then my first gig was I was live from
Times Square. Back when Times Square was not made of rubber.
Back when you had this little island between Broadway and
Seventh Avenue you could get killed on those streets. Yes, it
John C Dvorak: was a good time.
Adam Curry: It was a good time. Then I had police presence
around me. It was definitely more dangerous than just the
sheer nature of Time Square. You could try and die. But now Times
John C Dvorak: Square was bad a real threat security
Unknown: experts say police are facing the most challenging
threat environment since before 911 You're receiving more tips
Adam Curry: what happened to January 7 Come on people you're
literally you're messing up your messaging here working behind
the scenes to that depth
Unknown: social media tips for people following all these leads
oh
Adam Curry: yeah social media or someone posted on x is some
could go on we found that all these leads then they cut to war
footage.
Unknown: These leads
at the increased threat started on October 7 machine
John C Dvorak: gun at Times Square.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's all sudden there's sand in Times
Square and machine guns. The ongoing war between Israel and
Hamas
Unknown: with the pro Palestinian watches right now is
sapping a lot of the strength of this please
Adam Curry: hold on a second. It seems the real threat here is
the pro Palestinian marches. So
Unknown: that's that's the cause of concern
Adam Curry: nationwide. The
Unknown: FBI has investigated more than 1800 Tips since then.
And has more than 100 Open investigations that are in some
way tied to the conflict.
We've had cases involving threats to kill FBI agents, a
Supreme Court justice and three presidential candidate five
Adam Curry: gold
Unknown: is something that Director of the FBI testified
about in front of Congress earlier this month.
Adam Curry: I've never seen a time where the threats are so
many
John C Dvorak: elevators more money all at exactly the same
time.
Unknown: The biggest concern a lone wolf some small groups
is time to really be concerned about this. We will panic of
course. But nonetheless, we're in rare times. You look at the
hate crime numbers that are up in crime. These have
extraordinary levels that we haven't seen.
But the country's largest city is used to threats. And police
say they're more than prepared to host the country's largest
New Year's Eve celebration.
This is going to be the safest play.
Adam Curry: Now listen, this and all of that. We've got machine
guns, we've got no threats to the can and kill everybody and
then but this will be the safest New Year's Eve ever. Everybody's
Unknown: largest New Year's Eve celebration are safe.
This is going to be the safest place in the country and not the
world. A New York City Police Department has the greatest
resources, the greatest intelligence and the greatest
town
Adam Curry: we smell good to go where with all
Unknown: to know how to deal with the situation with this
in just the past two months, there have been 450 Local
demonstrations directly connected to the Israel Hamas
war. And police are preparing for the possibility that one of
those demonstrations could take place in this area on New Year's
Eve.
Adam Curry: So that was just ABC. But CBS Face the Nation. I
mean, they deserve and what kind of award can we get for bull
crap scaring the public? Maybe that's the award we should be
giving out every single year. Scary
John C Dvorak: to the end additional reason you can can't
do multiple awards. We're in the position to do that. I don't
know what your reluctance is. I can't can't figure it out a
plan. You
Adam Curry: did it but you need to plan you know,
John C Dvorak: that means meetings forgetting.
Adam Curry: Margaret Brennan brought in all of her favorites.
I mean, I have to give it to them. They were working at well,
of course they recorded this yesterday, or maybe even Friday.
They're not sitting there live in the studio on Sunday night on
a Sunday. Thanks so not on Christmas Eve. So they brought
in the poop guy by surprise.
John C Dvorak: Margaret was working. This must have been
really recorded a while ago. They
Adam Curry: got him to gaze and pixie girl CIA stooge harridge.
Everybody was in on this, because we need to scare
everybody about all kinds of stuff. Including including
including, oh,
Unknown: it's tradition here at CBS News to scare the
Adam Curry: crap out of you on Christmas Eve other
Unknown: our Washington reporters and look forward to
the year ahead. Oh, yes, Catherine. And, Jeff, I know you
talk to a lot of law enforcement sources as well. What's the
degree of concern about what happens how as this plays out in
the coming?
Adam Curry: What's What's your degree of concern, John, but
what what is your degree of concern? A
John C Dvorak: to
Unknown: already law enforcement across the country is dealing
with an uptick in domestic
Adam Curry: an uptick in domestic terrorism? Where has
there been domestic errors? Where's
Unknown: this?
Adam Curry: Where's the off? Where's the tick
Unknown: dealing with an uptick in domestic terrorism cases?
Because there is this concern about how will the public react
if there is a conviction in any of these cases and already, the
number of domestic terrorism cases that they've been
investigating the FBI specifically, compared to the
number of international terrorism organizations and
those kinds of cases? They're about running even?
Adam Curry: Hold on a second. There's no evidence of this.
There's not been any stories about what's the most recent
domestic terrorism case we've heard of? was
John C Dvorak: a school shooting somewhere. A month ago, maybe? I
mean, I it doesn't seem to I don't know. You're you're asking
me.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. What am I well
Unknown: enforcement is is also very focused on preventing any
kind of domestic terrorism. We're
in this dynamic threat environment right now.
Adam Curry: Or dynamic threat environment right
John C Dvorak: now. Law enforcement is interested in
maybe stopping with more more than nothing else, or more than
anything else. It's stopping speeding
Adam Curry: every Christmas domestic threat environment and
Merry Christmas, everybody. We're looking forward to your
domestic terrorism is
John C Dvorak: not wasn't that local law enforcement is doing
around here, man trying to clean up the homeless encampments.
Adam Curry: I need. I need to I need to help these people out a
little bit. They have this this has
John C Dvorak: some machine gun fire. What are you going to do?
Unknown: Catherine, you have this extraordinary job of
covering the President's I'm sorry, I want to fast credit.
The focus squarely is on loan actors or loan offenders,
individuals, offenders who are inspired by events overseas or
they're inspired to act radicalized by domestic events
and
John C Dvorak: listen to that sentence again. There is
inspired to act and radicalized Yes.
Adam Curry: Stopped I said that meal when Christina was a baby I
said stop acting radicalized you stupid child
Unknown: alone a fan nors individuals who are inspired by
events overseas, or they're inspired to act radicalized by
domestic events and very opportunistic what so it talks
about car ramming attacks it talks about weapons, it talks
about knives and a very short what law enforcement calls flash
to bang that's in between wanting to act and then making
the decision to act oh god
Adam Curry: flashbang Wow, this is a new target write this down
flash What do you think it's flash to bang ta Bay
John C Dvorak: flash to bang slash No. Title flash flash?
Flash flash not slash nos flash flash to both flash to bat was
like a flash bang. It's like grenades. Yeah, Flash is taking
it and and parsing it, creating a new term called Flash
Adam Curry: to bang to bang. Yes, flash.
John C Dvorak: So it's like a flash bang. It flashes? Yes. And
that
Adam Curry: Ford bangs, and then it bangs Yes. Flash to bang.
It's like a flash in the pan, like all of a sudden could just
fire up. Someone gets rattled, if someone is acting
radicalized.
John C Dvorak: Back to them. Yeah, that flash in the pan has
other meanings. Catherine,
Unknown: you have this extraordinary job of covering
the President's own son. And his legal issues, Hunter Biden with
these indictments, three related to a firearm felony counts nine
related to tax issues. Where does this go?
Adam Curry: tax issue? That's cool. Related to tax issues. He
broke the law 20. Now,
John C Dvorak: if she's going to answer honestly, where where's
this gonna go? She should say if she's going to answer honestly,
I don't know if she does or not, because I don't have never heard
this clip. But I'm guessing she'll answer honestly and say,
well, it'll lead to a pardon. Where does
Unknown: this go? 2024 is going to be a year of incredible legal
exposure for the president son and these criminal prosecutions
are going to unfold at the same time. Harden is running for
reelection. In January, he will be arraigned in California Court
on the tax charges. And I would pay special attention to the
California case. I had two lawyers look at the 56 page
indictment. And they reached the same conclusion that it is a
shot across the bow by the Special Counsel. He identifies
Hunter Biden as a lawyer and a lobbyist and then goes into
considerable detail about his business transactions with
Ukraine, with China, Romania and others. And did they see this as
Romania
Adam Curry: was the western Romania
John C Dvorak: stuff? Oh, the Romania has always been in the
game in the in play. They get they always talk about his
Ukraine, China, and then they throw in Romania, even though
they've never given us any details on this Romania, angle
Romania
Unknown: on Merry Christmas, Romania, with China, Romania and
others. And they see this as an indicator is that the Special
Counsel at the very least is investigating potential
violations of foreign lobbying laws, maybe even a statement.
Adam Curry: All right now we're getting down to the nitty gritty
because you know, we have to we have to get this deal. We got to
get our Christmas message out there people. So we need to
start looking forward to 2020 Catherine.
Unknown: Well, mine's a little dark. I just feel a lot of
concern that 2024 may be the year of a black swan event. This
is a national security event of high impact. That's very hard to
predict. There are a number of concerns they have that factor
into that. And not only this sort of enduring heightened
threat level that enduring,
Adam Curry: enduring heightened threat level,
John C Dvorak: orange,
Unknown: orange MAN bad not only this sort of enduring,
heightened threat level that we're facing the wars in Israel,
also Ukraine. And we're so divided in this country in ways
that we haven't seen before. And I think that just creates
fertile ground for adversaries, North Korea, China, Iran, and
that's what that
Adam Curry: creates fertile ground, the North Koreans are
going to come in and so they're seed on our federal ground.
Maybe the Chinese, maybe the Romanians
Unknown: seen before North Korea just creates fertile ground for
our adversaries like North Korea, China and Iran. And
that's what concerns me most, a lot of people
John C Dvorak: does she get paid? Like go did she have a fee
schedule? So she gets the extra 500 bucks if she says North
Korea? Well, she
Adam Curry: blew it because she should have thrown Romania in
for a buck 50
Unknown: At night, would that concern Catherine, at least in
this town. All
Adam Curry: right. Now let's go to the longer predictions here.
This is this is going to wrap it all up this segment here on
Unknown: Face The Nation. We've covered a lot of tough stories
this year off so we asked.
Adam Curry: It was a hard year it was so hard for us. But let's
pat each other on the back because we did a good job,
everybody. It was hard. It was tough stories, but we did it.
We're CBS Mark
Unknown: Strassman to go back and recap some of the good news.
Adam Curry: Good news. The good news do you think this will be
puppies and pancakes and
John C Dvorak: gentlemen they're stealing our material here I
Adam Curry: don't not entirely
Unknown: ladies first women headlines all over in 2023
Taylor and her jubaland Swifty
comes together and we're all dressed up and we all
participate Beyonce
but the beehive was generated billions for local economies,
mostly from women sharing their heroes.
Adam Curry: Now this is good news. Women heroes, women
cheering their heroes. Very good.
Unknown: I have never been more confident and proud to be in my
own skin because of her.
Not just a Hollywood hit a cultural conversation.
Barbie is like such a strong and empowered woman. She
John C Dvorak: has like 90 jobs good. She has like 90 jobs.
That's the clip of the year right there.
Unknown: cultural conversation.
Barbie is like such a strong and empowered woman. She has like 90
jobs Barbie
Adam Curry: is empowering. Yes, yes. With the legs that are five
times too long from any hole you normal woman with the boobs that
are bigger than firmer than any woman and look at that hair
Barbie.
Unknown: Good news. Speaking of jobs in 2023, America's rate of
working women between 25 and 54 hit a record high but I'm gonna
work and the overall economy, inflation's down, recession,
fears fading. And when
John C Dvorak: this actually went up, but they don't like to
report that bull crap.
Adam Curry: Inflation is coming down. Recession fears are
fading, nothing to see here. rack up the credit cards people
for
Unknown: hit a record high and the overall economy, inflation's
down, recession, fears fading, and we're seeing inflation
making real progress. These are the things we've been wanting to
see. Core inflation is down to 4%. Back in January, it was 5.6.
No jump. This
John C Dvorak: is cumulative people.
Adam Curry: Explain. Please explain. I'll pause the clip for
this Barbie Shut up your next.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so you have an inflation rate it goes it
went to eight. So it goes to eight and then it goes to five.
That doesn't mean inflation is going down. It means you're
paying the eight plus the five. And then when it goes from four
to three, it's still going up. In other words, it's cumulative.
So the inflation if it went, it went up 8%. And then it goes up
another 4%. It's going up another 4% and another 3%. It
goes up and up and up. It's not going it's not reversing it's
not going back to old prices.
Adam Curry: It's going parabolic man.
John C Dvorak: I mean it is slowing. There's no doubt about
that. But but it's the rate of increase that's slowing Yes,
it's still going up
Unknown: T core inflation is down to 4%. Back in January. It
was 5.6 No justice. No job when he 23 emboldened workers,
especially union worker remember this is the good news segment on
strike, nurses, auto workers Hollywood High they'll pick it
in a path to a happy ending on pay day. We
were finally realizing wait. We know our worth. Fans
have come up and are just telling the truth. also hit the
jackpot. Oh Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay millions for lies
told about to Georgia election work news, everybody
Adam Curry: when news news we got that guy.
Unknown: And George Santos, the prince
Adam Curry: of make believe we got that guy good news everybody
drummed
Unknown: out of Congress in entertainment. Michelle Yeoh
became the first Asian woman to win the Best Actress Oscar and a
salute to Admiral Lisa Frank Eddie. She's the first ever
female member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in sports. The
Buffalo Bills Damar Hamlin played again in an NFL game 10
months after he nearly died from cardiac arrest on the football
field.
Adam Curry: Good news, everybody. The jab. Didn't get
that one
Unknown: to be able to still do. What I love at the highest level
in the world is amazing.
And Brittney Griner playing again in the WNBA. After
languishing for 10 months in Russian custody.
The love from the fans when it came out was amazing.
And finally, 2023 was a great year for 10 Americans released
last week from Venezuelan custody, and five Americans
released in September by Iran we got fat in our time for that
letter
Adam Curry: that's all in time for
John C Dvorak: the holiday never mentioned that we got fat lender
in that report. Did you notice no. Hey,
Adam Curry: I got a note about fat leonard. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: saw it. So I read that real quick. Yeah. Go ahead.
Adam Curry: The title of the last show was a sign I needed to
donate oh he's gonna donate was a dude named Ben stationed on
the USS Blue Ridge for two years. My job was to help calm
Seventh Fleet officers learn how to computer. Captain David Haas
and Commander Michael Mickiewicz work in the department that
arranged schedules for all ships in the Seventh Fleet. They
seemed like nice enough guys, and there wasn't much to tell. I
got out December 2012. And shortly after this here, fat
leonard story shows up. Turns out these officers were among
the group that diverted ships to ports where old Lenny was able
to scam the US government government by overcharging for
services. If these officers had shared their money hotel rooms
or hookers with me, maybe I could have told them that all of
their computer activity was being watched and showed them
about this thing called encryption. Oh, those guys hit
the biggest scam in history and they're idiots to boot. The
idiots. Well,
John C Dvorak: if anyone thinks they're gonna get away with
anything, and it involves a computer, yeah, good luck. Good
luck with that. And good luck if you think you know how to stop
all the record keeping that's going on in the background. Good
luck. Good luck. You're not going to do it. Good luck. And
the reason for these giant hard disks by the way, big giant
double terabyte 10 terabyte you know 18 terabyte drives that are
150 bucks now is to keep your shit on. Keep your stuff is to
keep all the keep all the evidence against you. In a way
you don't. You never clean the disk. It's all there. So you're,
you're done.
Adam Curry: Did I see that? There's a two terabyte SD card
coming up.
John C Dvorak: That's wall. two terabyte I'm sure there's a two
terabyte Isbin two terabyte SD card.
Adam Curry: Really? Oh, I didn't know that. I mean, I've seen a
one thing
John C Dvorak: now there's getting getting to me is these
1814 to 18 terabyte drives for 150 bucks. Yeah. It's
ridiculous. That's great. Yeah, and it's great that way you
don't you never clicked with it. When I was a kid. There we go.
We had like a drive was a big deal was it was like 10
megabytes. So your net wasn't good for anything because you
had to keep cleaning the debt you had to you had to spend at
least one month out of the year clearing out everything and
erasing it because you couldn't keep it anywhere backing
yesterday who something and so you so everything was you were
kept yourself in your order. But now Now, no, no while we're on
was what's on your desk while we're at it.
Unknown: Don't see the vorak Bakelite chi today's Teddy K.
He's an OTG
Adam Curry: kind of got ya Bambi OTT kind of guy. But before we
go into that, you're really you're gonna you're gonna you're
gonna, I
John C Dvorak: want to push that off. You can play it again. But
I think I was very misled by the opening of today's show. Because
you said at the opening. Yeah, you have a Christmas like a
classic every year Christmas report, which isn't true. It
wasn't true. I didn't I have the reports.
Adam Curry: I didn't say that. I said, making a list of what it
was what I heard and checking it
John C Dvorak: twice. That's what I heard. Well,
Adam Curry: you heard so you're going to interrupt my OTG
segment, which I'm looking at the rundown says right here. It
says 27 minutes into the show start the OTG segment you have
it you got your call sheet. But now you're going to intro which
John C Dvorak: I thought was be Bullock. Well,
Adam Curry: I'll do it and be blocked then you're okay. You're
you're calling an audible.
John C Dvorak: I am because I think that would was the
classic.
Adam Curry: Is that is that a sports ball term? There we go.
Nailed it. Nailed it. Nailed it. Oh,
John C Dvorak: it's this is the NBC. This is what this is the
report that everyone has on Christmas. This is the NBC News.
NORAD, following santha report, brother.
Adam Curry: Where is it? I can't say it's under NBC. No, it's not
under MDC because I'm looking at your clips right now. Oh, there
it is. Yes, I gotcha. Finally
Unknown: tonight, Santa Claus is putting the final touches on his
flight plan for Sunday night. And once again, he'll be
counting and members of the US and Canadian militaries to make
sure he has a clear path as he departs the North Pole to the
Adam Curry: Canadians even celebrate Christmas.
John C Dvorak: The removal is more before Trudeau before
Trudeau America's
Unknown: front door and garden. This sprawling expanse from
adversaries is the job of the North American Aerospace Defense
Command or NORAD put not every object on your ads radar is an
intruder, especially when Santa takes flight on Christmas Eve, I
spoke to Lieutenant General Blaise Frawley to learn more
about the critical mission of tracking center blades I know
your main job is to protect the North American Aerospace against
intruding aircraft or bad guys.
Adam Curry: Yeah, they want to fly into like buildings in New
York. But how good was that? How do
Unknown: you use that technology to track center or
main job at NORAD is to defend North America with the
binational command US and Canada collectively, balloons we use
our systems to track we use our North warning system as well we
use worldwide to global satellites and finally our
fighter aircraft.
NORAD Santa tracking mission began in 1955 When a child
trying to reach sat up instead called an unlisted number for
the military's Continental Air Defense Command. The commander
on duty realizing what had happened, assured the child they
would guarantee Santa a safe journey this
Adam Curry: sounds like a bunch of bull crap. Is this the
genesis of this thing?
John C Dvorak: I've never heard the Genesis story before I've
Adam Curry: never heard this I thought it was ham radio guys
who track Santa and then I like
John C Dvorak: to know if these guys are so such hot shots. How
did they miss that air balloon that came floating over until it
got to Montana
Adam Curry: Military Industrial Complex weaponizing Santa, a
Unknown: promise NORAD has kept every year
throughout the years many different fighter aircraft have
intercepted Santa and will normally give him a wing waggle
is repealed
Adam Curry: if intercepted Santa what?
John C Dvorak: Wow. didn't shoot him down.
Unknown: Throughout the years, many different fighter aircraft
have intercepted Santa and will normally give him a wing waggle
as we peel off after we've intercepted him.
Thanks to that technology, technology, kids are able to
call in to your ad send a tracking hotline or log on via
social media for real time updates. Making sure Sandy is
indeed on his way. Everybody in your house?
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Of course. I didn't see this. Where
are they taking calls from from kids at NORAD? Is that what I
was hearing?
John C Dvorak: But there's somebody's taking calls. Man.
And they have they have a website? Everything is pretty
interesting is advanced somewhat since the 50s.
Adam Curry: Yeah, because they they need to recruit children
now when they're six. Because they no one wants to work for
these jokes anymore.
John C Dvorak: Well, I guess that's the report I was
expecting from you.
Adam Curry: Yeah, you're right. I fell down on the job, man.
John C Dvorak: Now I want to go to the OTG. Which, by the way,
use the second half a show anyway. But I just I don't know.
I think you're getting a guilty conscience of reasons you're
bringing this OTG up. Because you know that I, as of January 1
will have been with actually, to be honest about it since the
next Christmas. I will have been without a cell phone in my
pocket, or anyplace else for that matter. I have not looked
at one for an entire year.
Adam Curry: Yeah, you're amazing.
John C Dvorak: I am amazing. I have not used and you know what?
It didn't make a damn bit of difference in my life. Well,
Adam Curry: no, that's right. You're just as lonely. No one
visits you don't know anybody
besides that, besides your winning
John C Dvorak: low Digi Ganic.
Adam Curry: I need to bring this up because of that previous that
previous note to two people notified me this morning. That
Prince Eric prince, the guy from GE Academy formula, Blackwater.
You know, he's rebranded three times to Blackwater guy. The
Blackwater Yeah,
John C Dvorak: we know him. He's
Adam Curry: coming out with a phone. And he's out there
shilling the phone? What a great
John C Dvorak: idea for him. The exit strategy for a guy like
that. Well,
Adam Curry: this is why I wanted to look at it. It's the
unplugged phone@unplugged.com Boy that must have paid a lot
for that domain name. That's a good one. unplugged.com Yeah,
they
John C Dvorak: pay for that
Adam Curry: someone say a lot. And
John C Dvorak: but I it's a million dollars. But
Adam Curry: you know, it's like they've got this source an
Android derivative, but I need the dude's name Ben to to weigh
in on this thing because of course I haven't. I haven't seen
they using the Liberty OS Liberte. Liberte lips, Laurie
liber toss is lib tard OS. Which, you know, it may be a
graphene OS type deal, I don't know but then they're they're
all So selling you and this is where it gets real sketchy for
me. Well,
John C Dvorak: I'm good before we continue with what you think
is sketchy, I think, because of his background in intelligence.
I'm very skeptical, of course,
Adam Curry: especially when he's selling you the up messenger. So
you use their special messenger app. I don't know what's wrong
with signal signal seems fine to me. And they're selling you a
VPN. Well, that's a big a big red red flag right there. Yeah,
let's use Erik Prince's VPN. What could go wrong with that?
Yeah. So I want the dudes named Ben to let me know what they
think of this.
John C Dvorak: But myself, because I am going to start
using your phone again next year. Why at least?
Adam Curry: Well, if you're lonely, you're lonely. I know
it.
John C Dvorak: I need to call those girls on the 800 line.
When there's a dated reference,
Adam Curry: it's 900 900. Line.
Unknown: Line. I don't know. Well,
Adam Curry: hold on. I have a clip for you
Unknown: get a recent Surgeon General advisory found that
lacking social connection can actually increase your risk of
death by 60%. paid attention now. Yeah. All right. Racist the
chances of dementia stroke and heart disease and it can be the
equivalent of smoking 15 cigarettes a day.
John C Dvorak: So Oreos are bad is cocaine. You
Unknown: don't have a call this one of the defining issues of
our time. And usually when a Surgeon General declares
something an epidemic, we're talking about
Adam Curry: you, John, you
John C Dvorak: that fruity Surgeon General, we're dealing
with? Yes.
Adam Curry: Hey, who you call him? Fruity Adamic.
Unknown: We're talking about AIDS, for example, or cigarettes
like AIDS. That is how severe you believe this is for people.
Adam Curry: And what could they be talking about?
John C Dvorak: This is this is you giving me grief, and
listening to this. This is all part of a giant scheme to make
sure everyone's hooked onto one of these stupid phones. So they
had so they have field dependent constantly. This is creating a
giant world of dependent people that they can control with the
One World Government Jhansi
Adam Curry: Dvorak on fire today.
John C Dvorak: I had a double, I had to double, double,
especially when I go to this espresso machine. And I look at
and I say, Well, do I want to be just regular on the show and you
have a good time. Now today I'm going for the double head
because I know it always brings the best out in me. Well, I
Unknown: think one of the things that's really important to
recognize is we didn't get here overnight. COVID certainly
contributed to this loneliness crisis. But it was a problem
long before as a result of lesser participation in the
commuter organizations that used to bring us together rec
leagues, churches, synagogues, etc. But also the impact of
technology and social media has not always been positive, it's
often diluted, the quality of people's relationships, taking
them from in person interactions to online interactions. This is
about quality of friendships, quality of interactions, not
quantity. I know the age of social media has convinced us
that we need 1000s of followers and 1000s of friends. We do not
it's we just need a few people in our life, who see us for who
we are with whom we can be ourselves and who can show up
for us in a crisis and hopefully we can do the same for them.
Such an important message around the holidays.
Adam Curry: You know, we'll go fry this is this is why I always
say connection is protection the no agenda meetups.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, that's a good early plug for the
meetups. This show this show is
Adam Curry: the antidote to this. HIV can't cigarette cancer
they were talking about called loneliness.
John C Dvorak: But I think we call it the loneliness trend.
Yeah. Oh, no news.
Adam Curry: There's something there six months up. It's an
obvious sign up.
John C Dvorak: But what's what's the app designed to do? I mean,
what's the purpose of the op? Make people depressed? I
Adam Curry: mean, you feel like crap. Yep. that would that would
be one. That'd be one. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of ops
playing out right now. In fact,
John C Dvorak: there's too many and they're some of them are
bumping into each other.
Adam Curry: The Taylor Swift up was ratchet. This was getting on
John C Dvorak: my nerves. Not you brought that clip up. We've
Unknown: talked a lot about how the Taylor Swift effect has
changed in the NFL. So if you were to look at the video of
Taylor Swift watching now her Kansas City Chiefs it's very
transient a spell has radicalized Taylor Swift ah,
Adam Curry: the NFL has radicalized Taylor Swift. She
was
Unknown: cursing she was yelling she was furious, as furious as
Patrick mahomes was spiking his helmet on the ground after he
threw two picks in this game. It was a home game for Taylor
Swift.
Adam Curry: I you know, I have to say that something is wrong
with Taylor Swift because her image is not her. You Using the
F word so everybody can see it. And she's very she's hyper aware
of being on camera. Totally. So she knows that she's doing this
that there was something about that. That was very, very wrong.
They broke my heart.
John C Dvorak: I liked the crack in your voice good. Broke. My
heart is good. It's very good. Yeah.
Adam Curry: There's another part of that loneliness up. Is Have
you been falling this beeper? I message thing? No. So I don't
think I have a clip of it. You would know this. But there thank
you. Yeah, you wouldn't know this. But there's a social
issue. And I even get crap for it from from my adult. You know,
AARP friends. You're the green bubble in our chat group. You're
ruining the You're ruining the chat group. But yes, I know, I
didn't, I thought you would know. Um, so there's a
difference between iPhones. When you're when you're text
messaging with an iPhone, you're no longer going through the SMS
Short Message Service system, you're going through iMessage,
right. And we know that with iMessage, you can mail you can
delete stuff, you can edit stuff, you can add stuff, you
can name your group. But if you add one person into the group
who has a phone that is on the SMS system, ie Adam with
graphene OS that ruins all the features, then a breaks then
then it because and you will show up as a green bubble, where
everyone else is a blue bubble. And it's so bad that you know,
there are people who we've talked about this. People will
not date someone who has a green bubble. If you've got an Android
phone, you're Undateable. But this was years ago, we
John C Dvorak: talked about Well, it's been it's only me it
was like I wish I would guess 10 years ago, when we had somebody
somebody sent us an email saying that they wouldn't think anyone.
I
Adam Curry: think it was a buzzkill Junior actually who
filled us in on this. It could have been Yeah, I think so. But
it
John C Dvorak: was like if you're at the bar, and you pull
out anything but an iPhone, you're a loser. So the girls
wouldn't date these people. But I thought that went by the
wayside with the foldables. No other phones that are far
superior in my head to the iPhone.
Adam Curry: Now this of course, this could be iPhone. Public
Relations, again, topic handle is possible. Yeah. So this guy
came up with an app, then he reverse engineered the iMessage
protocol. And he released this app, and Apple, of course lost
their crap because there goes there the whole reason for
getting an iPhone. So I actually think that this is Apple
propaganda. And now the FTC was looking into this guy, you know,
oh, the
John C Dvorak: FTC should be looking into Apple. Of course.
Well, the
Adam Curry: EU has now forced Apple's hand and they in the EU
in 2024. And I think it'll be worldwide. They're going to
adhere to the RCS standard, rich communication services, I think.
So I think they'll let me know the let the Android people, I
think you'll they'll still give you a green bubble. If I were
Apple, that's what I do. If I were the horrible people at
Apple, or I would give you the function I
John C Dvorak: would too. That's exactly the right strategy. Use
the new standard, but you'd have some other they'll get a green
thing running underneath that would let you know it was coming
Adam Curry: from a loser or a loser loser green
John C Dvorak: bubble. Yeah, that's what I would do exactly
what I would do. So
Adam Curry: you know, people, if this is important in your life,
then if they're in I have given my friends grief about this,
you're horrible person when you say that. Now, my pastor, he's
like, we're in a group message with him like you're a horrible
person, Pastor. You should. He shouldn't be complaining about
my green bubble. This is really bad. This
John C Dvorak: This sounds terrible. This also is your Oh,
I can now see the triggering mechanism.
Adam Curry: What's the triggering mechanism
John C Dvorak: that your pastor is like, rebuked you,
Adam Curry: when he threw in a quick Smiley? Wink emoji. So
John C Dvorak: that's everybody.
Adam Curry: I know. We're all okay.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, sure. But this
Adam Curry: is this is seriously, if your pastor listen
to this show. Oh, absolutely. I doubt it. Oh, absolutely loves
the show. Yes, he loves it. This is where we
John C Dvorak: send you an email saying quantum five, which will
be the code word I just gave a quantum five. Okay. Don't repeat
it. I won't make sure that he Okay. Here's
Adam Curry: how here's how I connected with the pastor. When
he was over at our house for the first time when Phoebe bit his
wife would that was cool. This is before we sent her away to
the bootcamp. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Did you say bit? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah. That's my Phoebe went away for three
weeks. So we didn't really know them. And so like, oh, the
pastor's wife coming over for dinner. And then we're sitting
there and I said, Hey, you know, what I wanted to say is I really
loved your service this morning. What came out was I really loved
your show. And he cracked up. And then we realized that we
actually both are doing shows. And there's a lot of
similarities between them. Pastor John, ah, just saying.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I don't want to be blasphemous. Be
sure we're doing a podcast and that's
Unknown: let's be blasphemous for a moment. Then the European
Union is squaring up to porn sites seeing some companies have
to follow the strictest level of the EU's new digital rulebook.
That means they'll have to beef up measures aimed at policing
illegal content, and protecting minors. It won't be welcome news
for platforms like Pornhub. It says it doesn't have enough
users to deserve that level of scrutiny. The newly listed
platforms will follow Elon Musk's ex, which Brussels
suspects isn't doing enough to clamp down on disinformation.
After all, if tech firms are found to be in breach of the EU
rules, they could face fines of up to 6% of revenue, or be
banned from the block for repeat offenses. Brussels is just
getting started with enforcement. So we've yet to see
just how tough the laws are in practice, or what they mean for
businesses. The European Union says platforms can run from the
new rules that they can't hide. The
Adam Curry: EU is lost man. Lost. They have no free speech
is gone. It's gone. It's gone. I
John C Dvorak: do where they happen to they just kind of put
up with it. You have always been the pushovers. I mean that's why
there's all those wars that break out every you know so
often. One German country beaten up the other one and then all
hell breaks loose in the real world war. And it spreads all
over the place. Those guys are horrible. They're hopeless, the
worst
Adam Curry: they don't even realize what's going on. They
don't they don't even know about the digital services act. They
don't even know what's going on with them. That's the thing.
Besides what what we what we can't say that what we have to
register for porn, but taking a picture of my face. What? When
did that happen? Because you know, Brussels is people think
well, of course. The UK is is is different. UK has its own
issues.
John C Dvorak: But yeah, they're still they're still part of it.
There's, you know, they only broke away and kind of a fake
way. I think the whole range
Adam Curry: wait until Nigel Farage comes back. He's kind of
John C Dvorak: I know he's making a meal. But he is. He's
fronting for someone else. Who knows who? I have a I have a
three by three. Oh,
Adam Curry: no, no, no, it's time for a three by three.
Experiment by JC de Behrens go read from ABC. John's got three
stories from three networks. Let's see what the script is
today. Are they all the same today? Are they collusion? Did
they get the talking points from the White House or so from the
intelligence agencies? It is your three by three?
John C Dvorak: Well, I have to say that. Thank you for the
intro. You're welcome. I have to say that. Our producer Jones
that finds the Save the clip. Clip collector? Yes. Steve, our
buddy. Yeah. It's like,
Adam Curry: do you know that he's,
John C Dvorak: I'm kind of surprised. Yes. I'm surprised
that I stopped doing this myself. Because it's more
apparent than ever. That it's like the same newsroom. These
stories are structured the same this two three networks that are
supposed to be in competition with each other. And the three
networks put together the exact and this is goes on and on. Not
just one story me. He sent these sends different samples of
different examples.
Adam Curry: Hold on. Hold on a second. No wonder I'm getting
fewer clips from him. It's like he's like, Oh, this is so much
easier to do the three by three for John. Like that. Just drop
on that stuff. I just needle drop it. Boom, there it is.
Boom, there it is. Boom, there it is.
John C Dvorak: I will I don't well. Yeah, I think it's I think
it's true. I think he I think he himself is stunned by the
stupidity of these these three networks, these major networks
worldwide, International. These networks are playing us. Exactly
the same story. So somebody else is doing the stories. They're
not doing it. Let's start with. This is about the SCOTUS denial
of the trump of One of the trials Yeah.
Adam Curry: Data Files, fast tracking of the trial fast
John C Dvorak: tracking Exactly. Let's start with NBC. Tonight
Unknown: the US Supreme Court handing Donald Trump the
practical victory he wanted punting for now on a legal issue
that could make or break the federal case that accuses him of
plotting to overturn the last election. The High Court
declining the special counsels request to answer right now
whether Mr. Trump is immune from prosecution, a lower court
concluding the presidency doesn't confer a lifelong Get
Out of Jail Free pass a decision Mr. Trump had appealed, arguing
complete immunity for anything that happened while he was in
office. That led prosecutors to ask the Supreme Court to step in
and quickly resolve the issue. Now, today's decision all but
guaranteeing the existing trial date set for March will flip all
this as the prosecution's hand is strengthened on a different
front. The Detroit News reporting it reviewed audio
recordings of Mr. Trump pressing to local Republican officials
not to certify the 2020 election results in Wayne County,
Michigan, telling them we can't let these people take our
country away from us.
Army for my service. asked me how I was doing
NBC News has not heard or verified the audio. The Trump
campaign maintains the former President was focused on
election integrity. The call itself only described benignly
by one of those local officials at the time. Are you saying the
President's call had no influence at you recant
that you're? Absolutely. Wow.
Adam Curry: So there's no story. They have no evidence, no call?
No one's saying it's an outrage. They got nothing.
John C Dvorak: No, they do have the same quote everyone uses
which is Trump. Trump said that we had to take back our country.
You're going to hear that was NBC. You're going to hear ABC
and this is going to be I would say you think it was the same
exact report. They have the same cut away to this bullcrap
recording. Everything's in the same order. This is unbelievable
to me.
Unknown: Tonight, a legal victory for former President
Donald Trump in a one sentence order. The US Supreme Court says
it will stay out of the Federal Election interference case
against him until a lower court decides whether he's immune from
prosecution for crimes he allegedly committed while he was
in office. Special Counsel Jack Smith had asked the justices to
move fast and bypass a federal appeals court. Today's decision
almost certainly means Trump's trial currently scheduled to
begin March fourth will be delayed. Trump faces conspiracy
and obstruction charges for plotting to overturn the 2020
election. Special Counsel said Trump used deceit towards state
officials to subvert the legitimate election results. And
tonight a new report claiming to show how deeply engaged Trump
was in efforts to cling to power. The Detroit News reports
are viewed a recording of Trump on the phone with two
Republicans on the Wayne County Board of canvassers pressuring
them not to certify Joe Biden's victory in Michigan. The paper
says Trump told the two canvassers Monica Palmer and
William Hartmann, they'd look terrible if they sign the
certification and press Trump telling them we can't let these
people take our country away from us. Republican Chairwoman
Ronna McDaniel, who was on the same call reportedly said Do not
sign it. We will get you attorneys Trump padding will
take care of that. ABC News has not independently confirmed the
report. neither Trump nor McDaniel disputed the papers
characterization of the call Palmer did not respond to our
request for comment. Hartman died in 2021. The pressure
campaign did not work the canvassers ultimately certified
the election for Biden. Trump's spokesman says the former
President's actions were taken in furtherance of his duty as
President to ensure election integrity. McDaniel said the
call reflects her belief there was ample evidence that
warranted an audit. The call fits a pattern of Trump's strong
arming state officials to change the 2020 election results like
his call to Georgia's Secretary of State
Adam Curry: I love that pressure strong arming I mean, what do
you say I'm going to shoot you I'm going to arrest you What is
this bad as mafia mafia practices man writes Hitler
Hitler
John C Dvorak: did you'll notice the destructure that story is
identical exactly the same? Exactly the same and how does
that happen? I
Adam Curry: would like to same length John, these clips are
almost all of this fact is
John C Dvorak: the same link I have just tell Jonesy oh hey, we
can't go over two minutes. So
Adam Curry: these geysers the Joneses clip collective voice
clip Custodio. They have a they have a discord they share
together so they don't overlap clips. They're managing us.
John C Dvorak: Privates were for some agency for pool boy. So
yeah, brother Joe. So the point is, is that this is ridiculous
these these reports, and they have the same structure almost.
I mean, it's just it's like how do you how does that happen on
two independent newsrooms? It can't happen unless you're being
guided by above. Now, I will mention that when this first
came up, probably a month ago that there were that this Joker
was going to send us to the Supreme Court directly. I said,
on this show, that this, they're not going to accept this because
the Supreme Court, in this case, definitely wants it to go
through some lower systems. It has to be, you just can't go
from zero to the Supreme Court. I can't take my parking ticket
to the Supreme Court, because I want to. So this was a foregone
conclusion, nobody mentions that they don't. Nobody in any of
these three reports even discusses the mechanism here, or
reads the one terse line saying send it back. They all tell you
about the Supreme Court in one sentence, send it back, but they
never read us the sentence. Here we go. Now we go to CBS with
Robert Costa. And it's going to be a little different they, they
change it up a bit, but they don't change it up. In this
case, they don't change it up enough and they don't bring in
anything new today's Supreme
Unknown: Court order could delay the march 2024 Start of Trump's
trial on charges of interfering in the 2020 presidential
election. The immunity issue will be heard by an appeals
court in the second week of January, and now a potentially
stunning development. The Detroit News reports it has
heard a recording of a November 17 2020 phone call where Trump
pressures to Wayne County officials who heard the
recording of a November's backing up
John C Dvorak: Detroit News Oh Detroit News newspaper guy
supposedly heard her recording now it's now I have to say the
CBS is the only one who read who refuses to say we can't verify
the other two networks say we can't verify this recording or
that it even exists. CBS just passes it through as though it
exists for sure.
Adam Curry: Or we could actually say without evidence. Without
without evidence CBS reported without evidence development.
Unknown: Detroit News reports. It has heard a recording of a
November 17 2020 phone call where Trump pressures to Wayne
County officials, Monica Palmer and William Hartman to not
certify the 2020 election. The paper also says Republican
National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel was on the call.
If you go home tonight do not sign it. The paper reports
McDaniel told the officials we will get you attorneys Trump
told them to fight said it would be terrible if they certified. I
must not.
John C Dvorak: Now, if you had to pull it back a little bit. I
have to say they haven't listened to this for the
umpteenth time. I would say this was new information because what
he said was that it was McDaniel, Ronna McDaniels, who's
the one who pressured them to not sign not not Trump. Exactly.
Now this wasn't this was okay. But this is interesting. So I
can continue sorry
Unknown: go home tonight. Do not sign it. The paper reports
McDaniel told the officials we will get you attorneys Trump
told them to fight said it would be terrible if they certified
and said they must not let these people take our country away
from us. The call was detailed in the house. Yeah, yeah,
absolutely. But yeah, fide and said they must not let these
people take our country away from us. The call was detailed
in the House Select committees January 6 report, but the
existence of audio was not previously known. In the report,
Palmer told investigators she could not recall what exactly
Trump said or if he raised election issues. Palmer has said
she was trying to protect the vote
make sure every vote is counted whether it's a Republican or
Democrat,
a Trump spokesman said Trump's actions were within his duty as
president and an attempt to ensure election integrity. In a
statement McDaniel said that at the time there was ample
evidence that warranted an audit. Special Counsel Jack
Smith has been investigating how Trump worked to throw President
Biden's victory into doubt and spark chaos during the
congressional certification often by leaning on Republicans
in key states to declare trump the victor Smith's office
declined to comment
Adam Curry: week. He declined to comment. Okay. Yeah, exactly the
same report this. I mean, this is really the reporting on the
what the Detroit Herald what was it to Detroit News, Detroit
News, so they're commenting on something they read online. Oh,
I see a tweet from No no, they
John C Dvorak: all say all the reports say that they heard the
tape. The news somehow I don't know what the news they never
say. It's not the home of operation, obviously. But they
said they heard a tape. That's the breaking news that this tape
exists.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's like the P tape and all the other tapes
out of
John C Dvorak: trouble. Yeah. And if it's such a Why didn't
Why does Detroit News post the tape? Yeah, exactly. How hard
can that be? They have a website. They could post the
tape well heard this is what they heard.
Adam Curry: Yeah. This someone just played over the phone. This
is bullcrap. Yeah. Well, in this vein, with former President
Trump being taken off the Colorado ballot, I see yes, I
think it's time to to go to our friends.
John C Dvorak: You take him off the ballot to protect a
democracy
Unknown: elitist voices of America. This is NPR
Adam Curry: or PBS. It's actually NPR and it is clearly
the B team. The B team is loose, because everyone's off for
Christmas holiday. So we can just go crazy and we can just
say whatever we want.
Unknown: violent rhetoric is raging in some corners of the
internet, right?
Adam Curry: I mean, come on. When you start a report with
violent rhetoric is raging. I mean, that's good stuff. That
script writing.
John C Dvorak: The news would be no violent rhetoric was raging
on parts of the internet. That would be actual news.
Adam Curry: It's Chad GPT. Writing their scripts,
Unknown: violent rhetoric is raging in some corners of the
internet after this week's some corners
Adam Curry: of the internet. Okay, so what is a corner of the
internet that just to be nitpicky about it? What is that
there
John C Dvorak: is no such thing as a corner of the internet.
Adam Curry: Well, in some corners, there's not just a
corner there's some corners. Not a
John C Dvorak: corners, maybe multiple corners. Well, that can
only be four. How many? sneakily? Yeah, you can only
have no you can have what about your head a hexagon or
Adam Curry: ruler? Okay. Then you got multiple corners. You
got wedges
Unknown: violent rhetoric is raging in some corners of the
internet after this week's historic ruling from the
Colorado Supreme Court after judges barred Donald Trump from
the state's primary ballot. Some supporters of the former
president are fuming over the decision
Adam Curry: fuming
Unknown: rulemaking and have begun circulating personal
information about Colorado Supreme Court justices who ruled
against Trump. Some are even calling for civil war. Ah,
Adam Curry: there it is. Some are calling for Civil War
John C Dvorak: by over color right. Anything going on in
Colorado? Really? Let me let me guess
Adam Curry: this has to be far right is the far right how far
far
Unknown: who ruled against Trump? Some are even calling for
Civil War NPR domestic extremism correspondent whoa, hold
Adam Curry: on. A second. NPR NPR domestic extremism
correspondent.
John C Dvorak: So how much domestic extremism is this
person covering
Adam Curry: enough to have a title enough to get paid to do
this
John C Dvorak: great business card
Adam Curry: I have. What do you do? I'm a domestic extremism
correspondent for NPR your national treasure. Wow. Nice to
meet you. Wait until you hear this jabroni are
Unknown: even calling for civil war. NPR domestic extremism
correspondent Odette Youssef is here to tell us more I owe debt.
Yousef, I was reading some of this debt. And I don't know I've
seen all this before. And then I thought to myself, That's not
good.
Adam Curry: That's not good. Because, you know, because I'm
going to editorialize everything because no one's listening.
Unknown: Yeah, I mean, a on some of these forums, this kind of
talking.
Adam Curry: Right, hold on far right platforms.
John C Dvorak: That would be Fox.
Adam Curry: I'm thinking X, Rumble
John C Dvorak: X, X and rumble rumble Bridey. On Yeah. And bit
shoot, which you? Yeah,
Unknown: I mean, a on some of these far right platforms. This
kind of talk is everyday stuff.
Adam Curry: Listen to the editorializing. It's everyday
stuff. It's my job on the on the far right corner platform, a
domestic terrorist extremist correspondent, it's everyday
stuff. My job. Oh, so hard.
Unknown: Yeah. I mean, a on some of these far right platforms.
This kind of talk is everyday stuff. But when there are events
that affect Trump adversely, whether it's an indictment or
say the search of his property at Mar a Lago, it spikes and so
this time, you know, we're seeing claims online that this
is a Democratic Party conspiracy to interfere in the election.
We're seeing calls to arm up or to hurt or even killed perceived
political foes. barma armor up. You know, so far people
monitoring these spaces say they're not seeing indications
of a credible or imminent threat. Hold on, listen,
John C Dvorak: what's the story?
Adam Curry: Arm up civil war, but so far people monitoring
these spaces. Isn't that your job correspondent? I know this
is confusing,
Unknown: but they also caution that this doesn't mean it should
be ignored.
So yeah, authorities still want to be watchful then. Oh, yeah,
of course.
I mean, you may recall that after the MAR a Lago search, for
example, online rhetoric heated up, and there was an individual
who attacked an FBI field office in Cincinnati. So it is
important to understand how the baseline threat level is
evolving.
John C Dvorak: Was that guy a left winger? Listen, no
connection between the field office in Cincinnati? What's
that got to do with anything in Florida? I don't think like at
some place, some screwball. No, I
Adam Curry: don't remember even that store. I
John C Dvorak: do remember some somebody did you threw a brick
through the window or something like that? Well,
Adam Curry: there's a second part to this. It just gets
better.
Unknown: You know, one person I spoke to who's been keeping an
eye on this online activity is Daniel J. Jones. He's with the
nonpartisan nonprofit advanced democracy.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, right. Hold it. Run organization have ever
heard had Vance.
Adam Curry: Let's just take a look at advanced democracy.
Let's just do this in real. Advanced democracy Inc is an
independent, nonpartisan non for profit organization that
conducts public policy in my search. And let's just take a
look. Let's see, what do they have? They don't where's that?
Where's their about? Where's their boots page? They don't
even have an A boots? Of
John C Dvorak: course not. Please wait, hold on. Is there a
boot is act blue.
Adam Curry: That's what I'm thinking. Now. I've gone to the
dashboard. For advanced democracy. Let's see tracking
political donations in the complex, complex Us campaign
finance system. That's what they do. Search by DOE, ma'am. So
they basically just open opensecrets.org They just take
from their stuff.
John C Dvorak: This is this is a lame looking website. This
Adam Curry: is weak. This is weak. So but I mean,
John C Dvorak: how is the source? Yeah,
Adam Curry: I don't understand what they do. climat. And
John C Dvorak: Clint looks like a fake web. It these guys don't
even look real. They have
Adam Curry: Climate and Environment Program, government
accountability, corruption program. Global Oh, global
extremism program. We weren't let's be it oh, here it is. We
work to identify and document the growth, reach and influence
of violent extremist groups, as well as political rhetoric in
the United States and Europe targeting communities of color
immigrants, the LGBTQ population, and religious
minorities desmi that has contributed to protecting me
that has contributed to a surge in global hate crimes. Hold on,
hold on a second advanced now. We've got to do this homeless
second. If they are nonprofit, then they have advanced
democracy than they have. And that was a sea advance.
Democracy. Okay. Let's see. Then they have a Oh, where are they?
It's funny. Advanced democracy, Inc. Okay. They, yeah, they got
to $2.3 million in 2022. So I'll have to look at their 990 see
what they're up to. They have four point a $5 million in
assets. Let me tell you, that's more than this show. Yep. So
anyway, let's continue.
Unknown: He says he's not just watching the uptick in violent
language. I think it's
really concerning that we're not seeing pushback against this
language. We're not seeing pushback against dehumanizing
language from the presumptive Republican nominee. We're not
seeing pushback from language from political leaders on the
right. What do
Adam Curry: you mean, we're not seeing pushback? The mainstream
media Going Ape ape crap over this? Well, we said vermin all
he he quoted Hitler all he's parroting Putin. What do you
mean, we're not seeing pushback? What are you talking about?
John C Dvorak: Dude, I heard I was listening to somebody on one
of these networks. And she actually said that was a quote
and which we debunked already and didn't get the clip. But she
says it was a quote from mine come
Adam Curry: Yes. We looked at mine comp, we got our own
personal copy, you
John C Dvorak: can get on a PDF.
Adam Curry: I have it in the bookshelf right next to it. You
John C Dvorak: can search the PDF faster right next to the
manifesto
Adam Curry: from the Unabomber. Come on, people you gotta read
all that stuff.
Unknown: We're seeing the mainstreaming of this extremism
and this this encouragement of violence and right wing media.
And
I, you know, hear this across the board when I speak to
extremism researchers, you know, our job. Our job is violence
from the right, and they
John C Dvorak: stop it again. You know, this idea that there's
getting no pushback is, is really getting on my nerves
because all you get is pushback. Trump says did my Ain't no minor
thing and I'm in an ad libbing a speech in Iowa, and they jump
all over him. These people are either living in an unbelievably
what they mean by no pushback. They mean that the entire
country doesn't rebuke Trump and his numbers go to zero. Yes,
Adam Curry: correct. Correct. Oh, sec. Let me look at this.
This lady. Oh, dead Yussuf. Here she is Odette Yusuf. Let me see
what her deal is. She's a domestic up there it is. NPR.
She has a page domestic extremism correspondent. It says
that on there. Is that right on her page? A debt. Youssef is a
NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT focusing on extremism. All
right, but it says domestic extremism correspondent in her
reporting. Yousef claims to explore click Oh aims, aims to
explore how extremist ideas break into the mainstream. Yeah,
on NPR. How individuals are radicalized and efforts to
counter that. Well, so far. We haven't heard any of that she
comes from WBEZ in Chicago, where she most recently was part
of the race class and identity team. Oh, she must have dynamite
business cards. I'm part of the race class and identity team
also known as RCI. While there she was reporter for host and
host for season three of WBCs investigative podcast motive.
Won the 2021 Edward R. Murrow award. Podcast Yes. explores the
emergence and spread of the neo Nazi skinhead movement in the
US. It's been a while
John C Dvorak: probably for 20 years. It's been a while since
I've seen a skinhead. I mean, you see him on TV shows
Adam Curry: you know those guys that January 6, the Feds they
were skinhead kind of guys they all had the same
John C Dvorak: crew cut shortcut in those guys. So there's a skin
his she was also part of
Adam Curry: the team that in 2016 won the national Edward R.
Murrow Award for Best continuing coverage and receives a 2018
Studs Terkel Community Media Award.
John C Dvorak: She's an award winner. She's also an IMDB, by
the way. Oh, is she now this is so you can go there and she does
have the motive podcast series listed in 2019. And that's the
only she's gonna think she's really got on there. But that
just shows you that people that that executive producer show can
get on here too. So yeah, so
Adam Curry: you're you're She's no better than you people.
That's what we're saying. Sure
Unknown: is, you know, exactly what they are concerned about is
violence from the right. And they say that if high profile
figures would just clearly disavow that violence that some
are calling for it could really helped bring the temperature
down.
Adam Curry: Everyone is this high profile figures need to
disavow that violent rhetoric that is raging? Well, I that's
all I ever later
John C Dvorak: Island rhetoric from Trump,
Adam Curry: vermin.
John C Dvorak: Vermin Berman, and so we had to poisoning doing
anything. What did they Are they kidding these people?
Unknown: But when it comes to this ruling in Colorado, I mean,
many are expecting that the ruling from that court may not
be the final word on this or any acknowledge Oh, no.
Yes. In fact, I spoke with Katherine Keneally of another
organization, the Institute for Strategic Dialogue. Oh,
John C Dvorak: another one.
Adam Curry: Institute I should have done this earlier, the
Institute for Strategic Dialogue. Let's see. Let's see.
ISD is ISD global.org. All right, a boot. They got an A
boot page. That power of oh, here's their slogan powering
solutions to extremism, hate and disinformation. They got
solutions. They have solutions. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And I'm noticing that looks like the code base
for this particular website is very similar to the one you just
used. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Okay, so let me look at the donate page. Let's see
where they have. You can donate in US dollars. Oh, they have a
Oh they've got all kinds of donate in in Euro this a big
outfit man.
John C Dvorak: You know this this outfit is much bigger than
another one that was a front for these are
Adam Curry: the dudes These are big guys. Yeah, these are the
guys. Let me just see. Let's look at their board for a second
just to make sure we can see got UK Boardman. Where's our UK in
Germany?
John C Dvorak: Interest Yeah, in fact, I have this website site
is in German German.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. They got other Oh man. They got a lot of
lot of Germans. I don't see any. Any funny names that we read.
These are a lot of white women here. Do you know what? Their
racist? They got? No black people. Oh, there's one Sameen
Zehra the youth civic action coordinator. Wow, this is racist
outfit. They have no people of color.
Unknown: And she said she noticed this.
We can also see a large number of people posts statements that
they weren't concerned because they believe that the US Supreme
Court is going to shoot it down anyways. So oh
Adam Curry: my god anyways, anyway, where are you from?
Unknown: frame that I started seeing was the user, nothing
burger, nothing violent. You know, this is still very
concerning to people who care about democracy, right? Because,
you know, even when
John C Dvorak: people's name off the ballot, that's that spells
democracy, even
Unknown: absent violence, you know, this is still very
concerning to people who care about democracy, right? Because,
right, you know, even when threats of violence against
judges voters, really, anyone participating in civic life,
become normal, that can have a chilling effect. You
know, obviously, I read I read The New York Times, like all day
long, mainly on my iPad.
Adam Curry: So Tina, yesterday, she says, You know, I was
watching an interview with Whitney Webb and she's, she's
kind of saying the same thing. You are said Nope. Nope. Then so
she's we sit down to watch it. And she's been making the
rounds. And spoiler alert, neither of us like Whitney Webb.
And, and so I'm watching this. And she literally talks out of
the side of her mouth. Now this is new.
John C Dvorak: She's, it's been developing, it
Adam Curry: wasn't that way. And now it's just just this
continuous smirk. And I'm not sure why people are so enamored
with it, because she's not really saying anything other
than well, they're gonna bring in the CDC to control everybody
through a cyber event, the banks, and it's all planned to
the west, the West. So, so we're watching and and I said, Well,
let me see what you're looking at. And she was on Jimmy Dore,
but this was a different one. This was oh, this was Peter
McCormick from what Bitcoin did. He's a he's a big Bitcoin guy.
Nice guy. I've been on the show a couple times. But every five
seconds when he's going, right, yeah, we're just gonna be shy.
We're when we're the West. Right? And so I go, right. And
that's it. I'm not watching with you anymore. She I can't handle
how you how you hate her. I don't hate her. No, we don't
hate her. I don't hate her.
John C Dvorak: But you know, she's derivative. She doesn't
even live in the United States. And she's making, you know,
doing this analysis. So she's not in the milieu. So she can't
pick up on anything going on. And and she's everything she's
done, somebody else has done before. And when people call her
out, and I have a website, I keep sending people to I don't
have it handy him. Dead Buster, because it was an old Whitney
Webb fan that found that she won't, you know that she's
actually ruined people. She's not a good person.
Adam Curry: And then she continues going on and on about,
you know, they want to control us by making, making it forcing
us to, to use our real job government ID for social media,
and they want to control you and then then you'll sign up for
your internet at home, and then they'll know everything you're
watching. Hello, where are you been? Where have you been? It's
just like, and I don't want to pick on her but crikey, man.
It's like, it's like the redacted people. Now, I'm not
interested in the redacted people either. I'm kind of down
on all of these info Mavericks. And there you go again, yes.
Well, because now people are saying you're just crapping all
over them. Who should Who should we do
Unknown: our urine?
Adam Curry: You know why? Hater? I'm a hater. Dara,
John C Dvorak: right? You're a hater. And you're crapping all
over the good people like Whitney Webb and, and, and, and
Tim Poole, and all the rest of these guys who are just trying
to straighten people out. And they mean well, they mean, well,
they
Adam Curry: do mean well, they absolutely mean well. I think
they do mean well, but it's all just it's like listening to
Twitter all day. It's like there's nothing new it's it's
all by the
John C Dvorak: way. Do they mean well? Well, or is it part of
something bigger? Well, then they don't mean well.
Adam Curry: No, John dvorak.org on that one.
John C Dvorak: Oh, of course is suggesting the possibility
exists.
Adam Curry: No, no one's getting paid. You know. Like Whitney
Webb comes from a billionaire family. She's connected to the
Rockefellers, whatever is she finds who cares? No one's
getting paid to do this. That well, they are by the way
getting paid to keep you afraid and keep us focused on why
John C Dvorak: Yesterday they're doing a good job of that would
actually unfortunately put your buddy Alex Jones in that
category speaking of speaking of, but But before he go there,
I want to go back to this. I just stumbled upon the I had
this ISD page. Yes. One of their big things is to push back
against you if you remember the right rice burger movement. Oh,
it was Germans, of course, that was the German attended attempt
of German to overturn German government by some one guy. So
that was that 70 year old guys, some 70 year old guy. And so
that's all part of it. So this is part of this is a one world
government operation telling you? Well,
Adam Curry: yes. That mean? Well, the thing is, you just got
to follow the money. If Whitney Webb has a nonprofit, then then
I'll say okay, she's in audit, but she's not. But she's, that's
like a fire fund a lot. You know, the, the blonde girl. I
mean, she's, she's uniquely beautiful to look at me. So
which one who? The Dutch girl Eva? You know, she's married to
some guy from Prager, you. She's in that whole group? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: no, I don't know her. Yes, you do. She was
Adam Curry: on Tucker. Yes, you do. And you know, and so she she
uses that the turning point USA and saying your rights, you
know, are given by God. And I was like, Oh, she's the best.
Oh, she's, she's Joan of Arc.
John C Dvorak: I think most of these guys, what they're saying
is already printed on the dollar bill. I mean, it's not like it's
new information.
Adam Curry: Now, but but that's my point is I was like, yeah,
yeah. And all you're doing is sitting around in a circle jerk
going Yeah, yeah. You know, go to your local community run for
school board run for city council do something productive.
These people are distracting you. I love Alex Jones. I always
will. Been he he taught me a lot. He's been right about a
lot. Before we did the show was listening to him. But when you
put him together with Mike Adams, you get dynamite dynamite
content, all of
Unknown: you watching and listening. We're all going to
have to become experts at frankly, killing the Terminator
robots that are trying to kill us by
the way. That's the way the world works for survival, the
fittest the globalist are going to deploy this and see what
happens. Yes, this is a big contest. It's been decided we're
gonna face machines, rather, sabotage and military wokeness
getting the humans out. So only drones can fight the wars
because they'll follow the orders.
And you're not gonna be able to out shoot a terminator
ballistically because they will have built in ballistic
software. They will be able to outrange you with rifles.
They'll have, you know, of course, infrared cameras and so
on. They'll be able to see you at night so you don't go out at
night. Find a terminator. What you do is you set traps for it
traps that where it can't anticipate what's going to
happen. There's going to be a whole field of knowledge about
how to kill terminators. You're going to have autonomous flying
drones making decisions about who to bomb and who to kill.
You're going to have autonomous dog drones. And also, I call
them Terminator squirrels. Believe it or not, because
squirrel the size of a squirrel is actually the best size on a
battlefield because it can go up in a tree and it can traverse a
forest by leaping from tree to tree, and it's very hard to stop
and it can carry about 100 gram explosive. So these Terminator
squirrels I'm not making this No, that's mainstream.
Terminator squirrels will be programmed to seek out enemy
soldiers to leap into their faces, and then detonate in
their face a small charge to kill them like a small grenade.
Okay, so those are going to be unleashed on the battlefield
very, very soon in the coming few years.
Adam Curry: God can't wait. It's coming.
John C Dvorak: Holy moly, where'd you get that?
Adam Curry: Um,
John C Dvorak: somebody sent it to you.
Adam Curry: The clip custodian says
John C Dvorak: we have maniacs that listen to this. That is
your right. That's the kind of a critical mass of craze those two
together it
Adam Curry: was on the Jones's discord. I think that's where
that came. But so all I'm saying is
John C Dvorak: you can't even get these autonomous things to
go more than you know, have
Adam Curry: you seen even
John C Dvorak: before the battery goes dead? Did
Adam Curry: you see Elon Musk optimum version version two.
It's a robot that walks like it has to take a dump
John C Dvorak: they all they all have that? All the robots isone
robot most of them I've seen have to walk they have to keep
out of swatting like they're gonna take a dump belly they'll
fall over
Adam Curry: just beware of false idols people you know be careful
be careful with your with your amygdala. Be careful with your
mind because that's the danger all these people are great. I
mean,
John C Dvorak: it seems curl jumping onto your face and
detonated individually. I mean, can you duck it? Maybe could you
duck the squirrel?
Adam Curry: You know, you know Jordan Peterson individually
these beads they're okay. But they get into this like bar
right and everyone gets spun up to Just get spun up. Easy does
it read a book? Now this is, um, so now we have the following
this, this is a great, a great hit piece, which was sent to me
as Oh, great Nikki Haley, super cut bow. She's full of crap. And
she contradicts herself. Well, this is clearly from Team Magga.
They have hacked I mean, I'm certainly not a Nikki Haley fan.
I think it's hilarious that there's this rumor going around
that Trump is talking to people Hey, should I should I make her
my VP? Please? Yeah, that'll be the day that's not gonna happen.
That mean, she would have a knife in his back within two
seconds. But then they put together and by the
John C Dvorak: way, before you play this clip, I want to say
that I put it in the newsletter, and I'm going to use it as a
theme for the next year, Trump, and whoever the geniuses are,
that work on his campaign will be developing all kinds of you
know, I think this is the reason they came up with all these. I
think the Democrats know this, and we hear a lot about all
misinformation, disinformation, AI is gonna kill us all. Yeah,
AI is going to be used by Trump and his boys and the rest of
them and memes included, I got the meme alert out to kick to
kick ass. And it's gonna be a year of hilarity? Because like
you said, you agree with me on this one thing about AI? It's
funny.
Adam Curry: Oh, but that's the business model. What is the
business model of AI is comedy. It's hilarious. The stuff that
they're doing with existing AI, you don't need anything more
than what's out there already. You know, we can already kind of
do video and do voices. And you know, as far as I'm concerned,
you can stop the development. Although, wow, open AI, John is
now in talks to raise funding at a $100 billion valuation. But
now we see what's really going on, know what the moneys for? It
is too. So they're raising funding with Abu Dhabi based g
42. For a new chip venture. That's we talked about this.
That's where the money is compute. Let's make crazy big
things to take a lot of processing power, tell people is
great. And then sell the chips that do it. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: yeah. And this soak the well, you won't be
soaking in investors. You'll be soaking the public when you go
public. Anyway.
Adam Curry: Now, back to your global warming beat be damned.
Anyway, yeah, there's
John C Dvorak: a good point.
Adam Curry: And here's the Nikki Haley, hit the supercut.
Unknown: Not run as president top right. I'm Nikki Haley, and
I'm running for president. I will not, not now, not ever
support raising the gas tax. Let's increase the gas tax by 10
cents over the next three years. A huge issue that I'll deal
with, as soon as I get there is social media. They need to
verify every single person on their ballot, because and I want
it by name. I never said government should go and require
any Wednesday. I think John has been a really great friend of
ours. Yes, I view China as an enemy. That was not what I
intended to say. I do not think we need to pull money from the
UN. The UN, the only thing is we would defund the UN as much as
possible.
When a job fulfilled child in this country assigned female at
birth says actually, I feel more comfortable living as a boy,
what should the law allow the response to be?
Well, I think the law should stay out of it. And I think
parents should handle it. I think there should be federal
involved that you should not have any gender altering
anything done to a child before the age of 18.
Adam Curry: So I'm just gonna defend Nikki Haley a bit here.
These are clips that are taken out of context, really. And if
you're really honest, throw overboard like she's a liar. Now
if you really listen to it, if you really listen to how this
was cut, I mean, this is like man on the street stuff. Don't
be fooled by this. Don't be fooled by this. This this is
this is cut together to make what you do make her looks worse
than she already is. Again, I would never vote for her. If
she's if she would be Trump's. If I was gonna vote for Trump
and she was the VP I wouldn't vote for Trump. I agree with
that. That's bad idea. So anyway, it's just it's your
we're being hoodwinked by the Internet.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's the whole idea. So
Adam Curry: oh, man, The Washington Post ran a long
article on Sam Altman. And the I'm surprised that they don't
realize themselves they are hyping this guy up in exactly
the same way they did to Sam bank, Ben freed. I mean, stuff
like how Sam Altman took over Silicon Valley from powerful
friends to Oh, In AI, and they say things like, you could drop
in him on an island of cannibals and within five years you'd be
king. Phil, please. Yeah. And like, you know,
John C Dvorak: who wrote this to one of his PR people?
Adam Curry: Well, that's interesting. Let me see if
there's a byline here. Garrett petards, de Vink and cat
Zakrzewski reporting. Two people, two people, yes.
John C Dvorak: How's it take two people?
Adam Curry: There's, you know, there's stuff in here like, you
know, I had a private meeting with with Sam and he, you know,
he was on two phones at the same time. He's very introverted. He
throws parties and then he has like an internal clock. He knows
it's time to retreat to his room. He's not a schmoozer here
to some Altman could be awkward, even antisocial. Even when he
throws a party, he retreats into his room pretty quickly. He has
a timer or social clock where he needs to stop socializing said
investor, Lackey Leakey lucky groom, a close friend. He's not
a schmoozer, another close friend, investor, Keith Rob bois
recalled when he first met Alban, he spent the first
Hangout glued to two different phones. Oh, he's, he's so
introverted. He's so smart.
John C Dvorak: If you're introvert, you're not on two
phones. Let me tell you right now,
Adam Curry: I never met anyone as smart as Sam said, Senate
Senator curse disease.
John C Dvorak: You're right. This sounds exactly banksman
Fried. This is a curse in cinema. You're sure you're
reading the right thing. They're
Adam Curry: different Sam. He's an introvert and shy and humble.
And all of those are things that are not normal for people on the
Hill, but he's very good at forming relationships with
people on the Hill. And he can help folks in government
understand AI he thought
John C Dvorak: he wasn't a schmoozer.
Adam Curry: Hands up Oh, yes, but this this was just the I
mean it was dripping with goo this entire something's article.
Well, what's up is they're hyping this they're just hyping
it Yeah. But
John C Dvorak: why what's going on is another op. The stock
Adam Curry: market that's all they got beat what they need a
story this it was Sam bank been fried when it was blockchain.
This is what I keep telling you. Quantum Computing, his next
pivot is coming oh, it's not
John C Dvorak: over. When the next thing comes along, we'll
both be able to both have our eye out for it. And when the
next big thing, which is always, which is a Silicon Valley,
derisive term used for Silicon Valley, the next big thing is
when he comes around, we'll notice it probably within a week
or two of it happening. And then we can point to it. But
Adam Curry: at this moment, I'm still seeing. I see. I see
little green shoots of quantum computing bullcrap. I see.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's I say it's trying to survive.
Adam Curry: Then I have a question here for you. To
lawmakers filed a bill requiring creators of foundation models,
you know, foundation models are, I guess, something more
important than MLMs to disclose sources of training data, so
copyright holders know their information was taken. Here's my
question. When I write something, and I put it on the
internet, and I published it on my blog, the minute I wrote
that, I have copyright on that correct or not? In
John C Dvorak: under the new law? Yes. And you don't even
have to declare it. It's automatic. So
Adam Curry: by definition, unless I've given my rights up
to let's say, x, because when I post on X, I've already agreed
that they have a, an unlimited license, anything I do forever,
then they can't use my training data. Or my data for training
purposes of their foundation models. Why? Because they're
going to, they're going to have a bill requiring creators of
foundation models to disclose sources of training data. So
copyright holders know that information was taken.
John C Dvorak: Information actually taken or just read by a
machine? Well, I mean, I read your I read, for example, I'm
kind of on the other side of this argument. Because I've
always been annoyed by the fact that you're early on in the 70s.
And then into the 80s. People were talking about all the great
things that can happen when all the data's accumulate into some
giant library, all the books of the world, and all the knowledge
can be accessed. And it became a buzz phrase, yes. information at
your fingertips formation superhighway. And it was the it
was the information superhighway as part of that. And so the so
you had all this and then once Google started scanning books,
everybody started squealing like stuck pigs about it. I started
my bark, you know you're out of print book. From 40 years ago
got scanned by Google and you're upset about it because you're
going to lose money somehow you're not going to make a
nickel anyway. And so I noticed that there's this kind of, you
know, this back and forth and whether this is good for society
or bad for society. I personally think it's good for society that
everything gets scanned into some giant database.
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. Well, then, enjoy your AI. Your
chat GPT is dynamite and all good.
John C Dvorak: I never said anything. I never you what
you're doing is extrapolating a simple comment by me into
something just got nothing to do with anything. That's what I'm
not enjoying my chat. GPT I don't even use it. I don't use
chat GBT.
Adam Curry: But I love people who send me emails. Hey, man,
you have no idea how good it is a coding? Yeah, you're you're a
script guy. You know, and I'm sure but it's not going to
optimize the next, you know, MacOS for the new chips. It's
not going to No, it
John C Dvorak: doesn't. JC who works in this industry. And he's
an AI he says this is nonsense. He says you still get better
code from Pakistan and they do lousy coding. He says it's
cheaper and better to get the real life coders and maybe they
AI can clean up some stuff that might be or might optimize
something on the side, but it can't write code from scratch.
No, good. I
Adam Curry: think your code is going to be the same as it
writes English flowery in an ever Yeah, over and done in an
ever expanding world where podcasting. commissure blogger
who is you know, he has a career now in this stuff. And he'll he
keeps saying, Oh, look, look what a chat GPT for said about
podcasting. 2.0 I'm like, Well, you know, a 12 year old could
have written that. The so what bit pulls and I and whenever
it's from grok. I recognize the tweets. It was like, Oh, this I
recognize that tweet that tweet that tweet. I recognize because
if it's if it's about me, like oh, look what grok said about
you. I put grok into funny mode. grok is the worst kind because
it's it's AI that can't even do humor. Right. So, anyway, people
John C Dvorak: will call me a Luddite. You are a Luddite, to
say what you will.
Adam Curry: I'm not afraid to use that
John C Dvorak: clip at the beginning. I already do to get a
hold on you, my friend. I'm gonna ham it up. I'm gonna ruin
it. Now. Just try it. One would wonder I can't get word out
Adam Curry: and go go. You're a Luddite. Nice. Okay. I will be
short not to use that. All right. Okay,
John C Dvorak: I got some stuff here that we need to talk about.
Okay, good. Well, first of all, you know, I had to steal. First
Adam Curry: of all, thank you. Thank you for joining me today
for our Christmas Eve. Yeah, we could be doing lots of things.
If we work for CBS. People shouldn't need to be reminded
that that that we're here we are. We're warning you. We're
helping you or we're spinning you down on Christmas Eve. I
should be drinking nog
John C Dvorak: dog. You shouldn't be drinking. No dog. I
Adam Curry: want to be drinking dog. Yeah, now
John C Dvorak: we're working because it's important work.
Yes, it is. So I had this thing. I'm bitching and moaning about
the Houthis. And why don't we just do yes, satellites when we
just bomb bomb the Huth, where they're sending these the
Houthis
Adam Curry: so I'm not I'm not convinced that this is all us to
sell our our LPG our oil, whatever. No, yeah, to sell it
to Europe.
John C Dvorak: There's actually I agree with that. But this give
this guy a book writers on NTD. And they're gonna discuss, they
introduce him. So you know his name. The who's the discussion
about the weak response. And I have these clips from Andy. And
I thought this guy had it nailed. And he's got a nut kind
of a different angle. So here we go.
Unknown: Thanks for joining me here today, Lee Smith, the US
his response to the Houthi attacks has been called a week
by some political and national national security analysts.
What's your assessment of the US response to attacks? And how do
you think this response will be interpreted by Iran, which backs
the Houthis? Well,
I certainly I certainly agree that it's been a very weak
response. And the main reason for it, of course, is because
the Biden administration wants to renew the nuclear deal with
Iran. And so the Biden ministration is already
concerned that Israel is attacking another Iranian asset,
Hamas in Gaza and so the idea that the United States itself
would protect itself as well as protecting protecting shipping
lanes. This is beyond the pale Al, for the Biden
administration, because again, the key foreign policy
initiative of the Biden administration is to get back
into that nuclear deal. That was the key foreign policy
initiative of Barack Obama. And so Biden wants to get back into
it. Ha.
Adam Curry: Wow. Well, I just want to remind us, that my buddy
Lex, Ben Holland, who is married to an Iranian Fatima that the
jet and she visits regularly, she's over there. And when we
saw her when we were in Holland, when we went on our trip this
summer, and she always says everybody in Iran knows that
America and Iran are always working together. It's all a
show.
John C Dvorak: Well, there you have it, I think that she might
be incorrectly let's go with part two of this clip.
Unknown: And let me ask you this, too. We know that Iran and
the Chinese Communist Party are allies, right and work together
to undermine the US, is there a role that the CCP could be
playing in this? Well,
I'm sure the CCP couldn't be unhappy about this, that it has,
you know, that it's shaken the world's confidence in the United
States is ability to predict shipping lanes. And remember,
the United States has been doing this, since since the end of
World War Two. This is one of the most important things that
the United States does. And it's important for the entire world,
or certainly for the free world for, for Europe, for us and our
other allies. And the idea that the Iranians through the Houthis
have shaken the world's confidence since the United
States is not firing back that weakens not only America's not
only America's prestige, right, but it also is going to cost
other countries, it's going to cost industries a lot more to
ship these goods around the world.
Adam Curry: This is a scam. So scam. Scam is so obvious.
John C Dvorak: And so in he goes on and on, one would analyze
this, but I just took this last piece, just write straight up
with a really interesting assertion
Unknown: that we will not protect the shipping lanes.
Because we have a, we have another chief interest, which is
a nuclear deal with Iran that guarantees Iran's nuclear
weapons program, it doesn't stop it is very important. It doesn't
stop it rather, it makes it legitimate. That's the point of
the nuclear deal. So the message, the larger message that
the Biden administration is sending to the world is you
think things are bad now, and shipping lanes around the world,
wait until Iran, which backs the Houthis get a nuclear bomb, then
everyone's gonna have to be paying off the Iranians and
their allies to be able to ship their goods across the world. So
it's an insanely destructive message that the Biden
administration is sending to the world.
Adam Curry: You know, the tip off for me, which I didn't hear
a single view s media or I was exposed, expecting at least a
BBC report on it, that the French walked away from
Operation prosperity guardian. They said Now we're not going to
participate in this. And I think the Greek said, Screw you. We're
not going to be a part of this. Now when why would the French
leave the French? Is it time to break out the Freedom Fries
again? Why would the French leave? I think is because of
total oil to like, Oh, you guys are screwing us. Yeah, you're
John C Dvorak: true. Yeah. Yeah. To call. It really is half of
France. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So this is this makes no sense. Though, Tom
Hanks needs to do a movie your dad wanted about Somali pirates.
So and this, this, this whole thing? Then when are they going
to have the inks? What stinks to? I haven't? What are they
gonna have that the nuclear bomb two weeks is just around the
corner,
John C Dvorak: always going to be two weeks around the corner,
I'm sure. Well, once they get back on track, I'm sure to go a
little faster. But after having Trump come in and disrupt
everything, that didn't help and it's not going to help if Trump
gets back in office. This is not to these schemes, these one
world government schemes away I see him.
Adam Curry: I mean, now I'm also thinking that a whole that whole
thing that Trump uncovered that we're going to attack Iran,
that's probably a gambit to Alright, now we're going to
pretend we're going to attack you guys. We're gonna do
something over here and then we'll do this and then
John C Dvorak: we'll actually maybe that maybe that document
implies that it would be and that's why it's secret. He
Adam Curry: probably buried that with Ivana as well. is
John C Dvorak: in the cost of the digger up digger up,
Adam Curry: digger up. Now normally we have a veto on
playing this guy, but I think oh no, yes, yeah, can
John C Dvorak: I guess who it is?
Adam Curry: You already know, you already know. Go ahead.
Okay,
John C Dvorak: go ahead. John Kerry, of
Adam Curry: course it is you got it. But but is John I have not.
You've been doing this. I know. Well, because of the cop 28
You're
John C Dvorak: in clear violation of the treaty? Well,
it's
Adam Curry: cop 28. So, you know, I have a veto in the
Security Council in the in the clip council. So we're summing
up cop 28. And the big news that came out of cop 28 is we
actually Chad GBT use the line transition away from fossil
fuels fuels. And then there's a second part to it to reach a net
zero economy, which is code for carbon credits, because net zero
doesn't mean that we're not using fossil fuels. It means
that we are buying pieces of Africa, then just call that a
carbon sink. Now, all that we plant some trees, this kind of
stuff. But this was the bill. This was this is fantastic. We
did our job. It took us 28 Cops 20 A cops and we finally did it.
I'm John Kerry. Now the beauty of this is it's Christine.
Christiane Amanpour, who I'm now convinced is so dumb. She has
that elitist vibe over her. And for years, you know, he was
like, Oh, she's Christina. Christiana. Paula. I'm
Christiane Allen. Pa my my poop don't stink. Well, she's done.
President
Unknown: Biden's top climate envoy John Kerry says only greed
can now get in the way of combating climate change. Carrie
was right at the center of the high stakes deal making a cop 28
in Dubai, where remarkably, all 195 nations agreed to transition
away from fossil fuels. Earlier this week, he and I talked about
age activism, and how hard it was to get to that agreement.
Adam Curry: First of all, the whole notion that this was a big
deal to transition away from fossil fuels. I mean, is this
not what they've been saying for 15 years? Well,
John C Dvorak: here's the other aspect to this. They actually
want it and we had clips. I don't know if we replayed them
from cop 28 where they didn't want the wording was not
transition away was a bit. Yeah. Exactly. And they and the guy
was the head one of the head honchos and one of the big
Middle East oil companies was running the show. And he managed
to change it from eliminate, to transition away from which is
what they've kind of been doing, you know, transition away, it
doesn't mean anything is meaningless.
Adam Curry: That's what Elon Musk has been helping with.
That's what it is. transition away from fossil fuel. Okay.
Unknown: Secretary Kerry, welcome back to the program.
There was a lot written about how you were able to leverage if
that's the right way your contacts with the Saudi with the
remember,
Adam Curry: isn't this in his daughter married to like some
Iranian dude.
John C Dvorak: I can't remember the relationship during that.
Yeah. But anyway,
Adam Curry: I'm John Kerry, I did it all II with
Unknown: the Chinese officials at I'll tell me just what it was
like in terms of personal negotiation, getting them to
sign on the dotted line?
Well, it's really tough. I mean, this is as tough as any
multilateral negotiation gets. When you have economic interests
and different capacities, different capabilities,
different amounts of money, different cultures. And you
bring them all together in a multilateral forum. I think
people who expect them to all of a sudden, you know, terminate
what they're doing, are just not operating on the reality of how
multilateral governance, it works. It's the hardest kind of
all. And what happened in
Adam Curry: multilateral governance, New World Order, is
the hardest of all, but I'm John Kerry by
Unknown: is that 195 countries actually came to a consensus,
any one of them could have blocked any one country could
have walked away and said, No, we're not doing this. They
didn't. They gathered together and said, time for a transition
away from fossil fuels, with acceleration in the 2020s
commensurate with that zero 2050. And in keeping with the
Paris Agreement, which means keeping 1.5 degrees alive if
there's one thing which worries me what is it what what worries
me now is greed and procrastination and business as
usual, and people who just aren't going to step up.
Adam Curry: This is a perfect example of what you said, Ben,
yourself and your co op do the health. The greed part. That's
you. That's you all those people there. They're in it for the
greed. Ah, I can sell carbon credits. Oh, we don't have to be
done until 2050. John Caron set up an exchange. Yes, John Kerry
will be dead in 2050. Because he's well into his 80s. Now, I
think or his ad. No, no, no, I think so.
John C Dvorak: But let's check it out.
Adam Curry: Doesn't matter. Let's talk about Trump.
Unknown: If you're the envoy for President Biden, what happens if
Biden doesn't get elected? And the climate? You know, I don't
even know what to call him the climate agreement. Pull her out
or
Adam Curry: the climate agreement polar outer. That is
your elitist. Christiane Amanpour. They're
John C Dvorak: actually at your right.
Adam Curry: I don't even know what to call Trump but a climate
agreement polar outer
John C Dvorak: is a polar outer. No, and he's a polar outer. He's
a polar outer
Unknown: of the First Order climate. You know, I don't even
know what to call him the climate agreement, pull her out,
or Donald Trump. You know, after 2015 comes back,
let me tell you even why Donald Trump is president united states
and he pulled out of the Paris Agreement. 37 governors,
Republican and Democrat alike in the States of America, all
continued to apply the Paris Agreement, even while Donald
Trump was out of the agreement with
Adam Curry: this is a lie. What do you mean, we send money to
China, the Texas send money to South America. That's the
agreement pulled her out, or
Unknown: 75% of the new electricity, the United States
that came online came from renewables. Now he probably
didn't know it, or he tried to stop it. But that line is key
now. Nobody can stop this. Now nobody economies of the world
had made this decision. I think no one politician anywhere in
the world can undo the direction the world is now. And
particularly
the young people who are really there for it and won't allow me
to meet and quiet
Adam Curry: the young people are not puller outers at all at all.
All right. Now since since the after this. After this clip, I
want you to write this down. January, December 24 2023. After
this clip, I will never play John Kerry again. Tao
John C Dvorak: ball shet. Because Oh crap, this this is
you think he's gonna die or something? What do you what do
you got going on here? This
Adam Curry: is the end. He's done his job. He has. He has
done what? He's retiring. He's done. He's done. He's out. He
will no longer be around. He's already talking about how great
he is. He'll tell his grandchildren how great he are.
He's telling his grandchildren how great he is. This is it.
It's a swan song. Sayanora you just
Unknown: celebrated your 80th birthday still going strong?
What line can you draw from that from the young man who came back
and told his country that this war is the wrong war? To today
to what you will tell your grandchildren about what's been
achieved after this cop 28 What will you tell them about their
future?
Well, there we can make a difference that all of us there
being citizens and being active and being engaged. We have that
freedom, that power to make a difference. The struggle for us
a little bit now in the United States and elsewhere is to make
sure that the truth is on the table that we are ratifying
truth, not just information, but bad ideology. And I think that,
you know, in so many ways, the journey we traveled I wrote the
the title of my own biography after I left his secretary is
every day is extra. That comes from a saying that many of the
guys on my crew and many of the people I grew there felt that
responsibility because we survived and we came back
Adam Curry: way But wasn't he a traitor? But why do I remember
he? Did he throw his metals in the water or something
John C Dvorak: he threw, but it was supposedly he was doing some
protest. I think anti war protest Vietnam and he
supposedly threw his metals into some, you know, burning heap.
Then somebody found out that he bought some metals at a pawn
shop and through those and what was was was a rumor it was a
Swift Boat thing.
Adam Curry: It was this that was on any
John C Dvorak: Swift Boat where he came I'm ready for duty. He
comes out at the at the convention I'm ready for duty
salutes the crowd. And then he has the Swift Boat in a Swift
Boat guys came out so he's full of crap. This guy's a phony.
Yeah, he's a phony baloney this guy. He's always been
Adam Curry: Yeah. But now he's talking about his crew, my crew,
a two Live Crew. What are you a hip hop guy now? That
Unknown: comes from a saying And then many of the guys on my crew
crew, the people I knew there I run with some bad dudes, sir.
Felt that response, because we survived and we came back. And
so you treat every day as extra. And when you say to me, you
know, I'm 80 years old and I don't think about age, honestly,
I don't. The other day I said to my friends, when we were
gathered, I said, you know, at 80, I can do everything I used
to do when I was 50. But I don't remember what it is.
It's not true, by the
John C Dvorak: way, oh, no, really,
Adam Curry: I guess. I
Unknown: must really tick you off all this stuff about Biden
and his age. It does.
I think that sort of in ages, and he's done a brilliant job. I
think it's really, you know, he's been able to galvanize
people around critical values that are at stake in Ukraine
critical values. I don't know what has happened to a lot of
people who back away from that now, because the cost of nine
ones varying, would be just extraordinary for the world. And
I think he knows how the congress works. He knows
America, and he also knows how the world works. And that's what
you need today. So thank you very much. Thank you. Goodbye,
Adam Curry: John Kerry. banned forever.
John C Dvorak: So you are putting this date down as this
Ms. 2023 as a swan song,
Adam Curry: he's done. He's out. Dez
John C Dvorak: bull crap. There's no way guy like this
out.
Adam Curry: He's done. He's done. He's no, he's done. He's
done on the show.
John C Dvorak: There will be no more clips of Joe iring. About
that. Well, then I'm gonna bring clips, he might, he might
Adam Curry: as well be dead to us. He's dead to me. He's dead
to me. Now, I will say the one thing that I was absolutely
right on was this. In the start in the EU, then we then I said,
you watch this is a thing. And it is indeed, it's the green
Hydrogen. Hydrogen is all about now. We're moving away from wind
and solar. Because that's no good. It's all about the
hydrogen and
Unknown: hydrogen producers could soon be eligible for
billions of dollars in tax credits through the inflation
protection act. The Biden administration today released
his proposal to boost the hydrogen industry as a cleaner
alternative to fossil fuels. Under the proposal cleaner
energy projects would get the most tax credits. Those that use
fossil fuels to produce hydrogen would still get them but in
smaller amounts, hydrogen production credit could deliver
$140 billion in revenue and 700,000 jobs by the year 2030.
Adam Curry: Sure. How's that hydrogen working for you?
John C Dvorak: Climate is this climate change mini clip?
Adam Curry: Shall we have a listen?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's 50
Unknown: Plus Architecture, Landscape Architecture and
Design officers have participated in this exhibition,
they've come together to creatively design an entire
city, which is edible.
And edible city.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's right. They were gonna do that.
Adam Curry: Where was that? Where was that from? That's
hilarious.
John C Dvorak: This story was about a bye about climate
change. But they decided they're going to do a green gingerbread
city designed by the world's top architects. And so they designed
this thing and it was turned out to be edit where I thought just
as sub clip itself was funny, where Sir Mark
Adam Curry: and de mastered when we're designing a gingerbread
city, those guys could do it. They could
John C Dvorak: do it. And they were they're going to be
involved in today's day mastery, for sure. On today's donations,
contributed money to us. She's still listens.
Adam Curry: Are you doing a show on Tuesday with the Horowitz? Of
course. Well,
John C Dvorak: could I it's after Christmas. He doesn't care
about credit. I mean, he's Jewish. And so the joke is, I
always like to chide him about it. He totally can. He totally
confirms this. Most Jews go and eat Chinese dinners. Chinese you
know, Christmas is like a tradition that's which means
that they observe Christmas or they wouldn't have a tradition
around Christmas. And he has no problem saying Merry Christmas.
No, of
Adam Curry: course not. You know what, I love him because he's,
he's one of those Jews who loves cooking up lobsters. He's
boasting about it all the time. Just like
John C Dvorak: you know, it's obvious. He's a good cook. He
knows how to cook only he's a little bit nuts about his way.
Adam Curry: He goes out of control.
John C Dvorak: He's out of control. He could he'll cook for
25 people, nobody in their right mind. Who knows how to cook
well, will cook for 25 people. It's just too much work. It's
ridiculous. You get a caterer and have them do it. You Just
don't do it, but he'll do it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, about I love Andrew and NGL. They're there.
There's some very fine people.
John C Dvorak: They're very fine, very fine people.
Adam Curry: But I have a question about how this will
work. Because what the new president Millay of Argentina
said he would do, he has done he repaired the payee repack the
peso, the peso has been pegged. And it's not it's been he
promised it will be bad but as bad economic
Unknown: shock treatment is the only solution. According to the
New Argentinian president. In a televised address, have you
Malay said he would repeal more than 300 laws in a bid to reboot
the country struggling economy, and
earlier today, I've signed a decree of necessity and urgency
to begin to unblock the oppressive legal and
institutional framework this destroyed our country on base.
Among the announcements made on Wednesday, are a form of labor
law, the scrapping of a law regulating rents and the
elimination of rules preventing the privatization of state
enterprises. But before the measures can take effect, they
must first be assessed by joint committee of lawmakers from both
chambers, they'll and Malaise far right party only has 40
seats in the 257 member lower house and seven senators out of
72. Fearing street protests, the government threatened to take
away demonstrators social welfare benefits, which didn't
stop these Argentinians marching in Buenos Aires on Wednesday, so
you're
not convenient, let them take our freedom. It costs too much.
taking people off buses asking for documents and banning
protests going back to the dictatorship back because there
were those who voted for Malay want.
On Monday, Argentina's Minister for Human Capital issued a
warning via social media.
Those blocking streets won't be paid. The
move to discourage protests was declared unconstitutional by
opposition MPs. In Argentina, wanting to citizens receive aid
from the state or an organization.
Adam Curry: Okay, so I should mention DHS unplugged every
Tuesday. It's an hour long casual conversation between
money manager Andrew Horowitz and calmness, Jhansi Dvorak. And
so my question is, how does this mechanism work? When you want to
stop rampid inflation view then repaired, everything becomes 30
to 50%. More expensive overnight, half the people from
the report depend on government handouts. I mean, what's the
mechanism? This is not the first time this has been done? How
does it work? What is I mean, does it last two months, two
years? How does it work? But how is this going to help everybody
in the end? It
John C Dvorak: stops inflation pretty quickly. This was done in
Brazil. This has been done in Argentina, I think a couple of
times. And once you read Peg, Yeah, it goes everything goes
up. It seems to go up 30%. But it's been going up 15 or 20% a
month. Anyway. Yeah. So if it goes up 30% once and then stops
going up. That seems to be a benefit. Yeah, okay, things are
gonna be a little more expensive for the short term. Brazilians
did it. They took in, they had these different. I was first
time I went to Brazil, I went during the period of
hyperinflation. And I still have a couple of bills. The cruzeiro
is beer bill and they have one that's 500,000. And it was worth
they originally was worth like about $1. And then it became
worth less and less and less than they used as got rid of it
completely. They had two different versions of it. They
got rid of it and brought in something called the rial
meaning, which means real, and it was pegged to the dollar one
to one. And it pretty much stopped inflation. And one of
the things I think that caused inflation to stop dead is what
Milton Friedman's, we had a clip, we played it, where he
discusses something in one one of the states during the Civil
War where they're having this inflation problem, and they just
stop printing money, and the inflation stopped. It was just
that simple in that easy. And that's exactly what this amounts
to. Here
Adam Curry: is here's the clip. I believe this one you referring
to 40 years ago on inflation's cause is that would that be the
clip to be
Unknown: in the modern era? The important next step is to
recognize that today, governments control the quantity
of money. So that as a result, inflation in the United States
is made in Washington and nowhere else. Of course, no
government any more than any one of us like to take
responsibility for bad things. We're all of us human, if
something bad happens in one wasn't our fault.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I don't think this is a clip but I want to
play it out. Yeah,
Unknown: playing the government is the same way. So it doesn't
accept responsibility for inflation. If you listen to
people in Washington and talk, they will tell you that
inflation is produced by greedy businessmen. Or it's produced by
grasping unions, or it's produced by spendthrift
consumers. Or maybe it's those terrible Arab sheiks who are
producing those guys. Now, of course, businessmen are greedy.
Who of us isn't? Trade Unions are grasping who of us isn't.
And there's no doubt that the consumer is a spendthrift. At
least every man knows that about his wife. But none of them
produce inflation. For the very simple reason that neither the
businessman nor the trade union, nor the white housewife has a
printing press in their basement on which they can turn out those
green pieces of paper, we call them money. Only Washington has
that printing press, and therefore only Washington can
produce inflation.
Adam Curry: So what do we do with our rampant inflation in
the United States, where our debt payments on the almost $34
trillion is now 1.7 trillion? Which is more than we give to
the military industrial complex? Can we pegged ourselves to our
own dollar
John C Dvorak: before we tend to do that? Yeah, to pay off the
debt with paper money. How do
Adam Curry: we do that? What do we do we just devalue the
dollar? It never happens. No, so we don't tend to do that is what
you're saying? Well, it's
John C Dvorak: always on the table.
Adam Curry: There the results of this Oregon let inflation
John C Dvorak: go nuts if it goes up like crazy, like it did
in the 70s. It takes us that for a while. Well,
Adam Curry: it seems to me if you look at the the lay of the
land, because now with the effectively the whole Suez
Canal, read, read, see the whole thing, you know, all the way
down to the Gulf of Aden, where we know the Stargate is, yeah,
John C Dvorak: you know what comes through that Stargate?
Yes. Fish?
Adam Curry: Yes. Only when it's open. Then the fish come out.
Already we're hearing all supply chain supply chain, which I
think could be could be used to blame inflation. Yeah, code.
Yeah. Yeah. If all it all it's the Houthis the Houthi price
hike. So the answer, which we've been discussing for a long time
is universal basic income. And PBS News Hour had John Yang. I
mean, Michael Tubbs is he? I think he's the mayor of Stockton
because this is this has been one of those experiments in
Stockton, where they get give people money as it they don't
call them call it universal basic income income. They call
it something else. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: giving people money. It's called
Adam Curry: giving people money. But the people are getting
serious about this. You want to hear some clips of
John C Dvorak: this? Yes, I would like to hear so. It's not
Unknown: a new idea. No Strings Attached payments to provide
people with a financial floor what's called a guaranteed basic
income. It actually dates back to 16th century England. Today,
it's been tested in dozens of pilot programs.
Adam Curry: Is there any evidence of that? Did they use
it in the 1500s. In England, they gave people universal basic
income. I'm
John C Dvorak: sure there was some sort of giveaway going on
and it back in the day that has been misinterpreted as such.
Unknown: Okay, it's across the country think probably in cities
as big as Baltimore and as small as Yellow Springs, Ohio
population about 3700. Some of them use taxpayer funds. Others
use private contributions or foundation grants. Stockton,
California was among the first to launch a pilot program in
2019. Earlier I spoke with Stockton, his mayor at the time,
Michael Tubbs. He's also founder of a group called mayor's for a
guaranteed income. I asked him about the genesis of Stockton
Spro gram guaranteed
Adam Curry: income there it is yet the
Unknown: crux of all the issues from homelessness to crime to
education was this persistent poverty and economic insecurity.
So I my first 100 days, I gathered my team in the office
and I said, you guys, I want our legacy to be an anti poverty, a
pro Economic Security Administration. So let's come up
with all the ideas for how can we as a government ensure that
people have enough to live and survive and eventually thrive?
And through that my team came back with this idea of a
guaranteed income citing work that was happening in places
like Kenya and in Mexico and Brazil, that had heard of
guaranteed income from studying Dr. King in college. So I was
familiar with the idea so I said Well, let's do
Adam Curry: it. I love that we're now on the level of Kenya.
In Brazil. Yeah, that's that's getting pretty bad. And there's,
I think this is possibly a plan for Democrats for 2024. And,
honestly, you know, everyone pays attention when Oh, you're
gonna give me money that no strings attached, you know, and
this will
John C Dvorak: be this is a classic potential Democrat
promise to the black community. Yes. Which they never deliver
on. And they should all remember that, that, that welfare reform,
which was throwing a lot of money into that, in that
direction was kit was was promoted and implemented by Bill
Clinton and other democratic Pull, pull all that money back.
But yeah, it looks like a promise this is not going to
happen.
Adam Curry: Did you say black short term you say bluntness, or
do you say black community?
John C Dvorak: I said black community Manjusha.
Adam Curry: Alright, so let's find out what did he
John C Dvorak: say the black voter there you got tends to
vote Democrat go. And
Unknown: as I understand it, the program ran for two years, you
had 125 participants from neighborhoods where the median
income was at or below the city's median, which I think was
about $46,000. They got $500 a month for two years. What did
you find?
Adam Curry: This is, by the way, $46,000. I mean, I know people
in New York City who make less than that, so people would pay
attention, oh, I'd be eligible for something like this. So
Unknown: many people said the money would be spent on drugs
and alcohol, that people would stop working, or that people
would use that money to commit crimes, etc. And what we saw was
that people spend money the way you and I and the viewer spend
money, we saw them be two times less likely to be unemployed. We
saw them spend the money on things like utilities and
necessities on food and other children. But we also saw health
impacts, we saw those with a guaranteed income saw their
stress decrease just a small amount of money was enough, not
for people to become millionaires, or for people not
to be evicted for people that take care of their children, for
people to be able to pay to get their car fixed for people to
live and contribute to their communities.
Adam Curry: Sounds like this was a raging success. No one bought
drugs. I mean, is that how they use the money? So
Unknown: everything you just said it's sort of contradicts or
counters what the critics say, because the critics say that
this takes away the incentive to work, that this will foster bad
spending decisions. But it sounds like that that's not what
you found in Stockton. That's
not what we found in Stockton, increasingly, from any of the
dozens of pilots happening across this country in this
world consistently, which suggests to me, John, that part
of the issue is not just a data issue, but a storytelling issue
that we have to get people to see the myths, the lies, the
prejudices, the stereotypes and biases we have against people
who may have less money
Adam Curry: yet, let's go to the myths and the lies. Because this
guy thinks that Social Security is just like a like a thing that
the government is just nicely giving to people skips the whole
point of you pay into Social Security your entire life. I
think he's setting us up for a me now, there's not going to be
any social security because that money as you've pointed out,
John, is gone. It's been used, stolen, stolen, stolen,
John C Dvorak: so stolen.
Adam Curry: So you know, there's some local tax and give people
money from that. Do
Unknown: you see guaranteed income programs, supplementing
government assistance programs, or replacing government
assistance programs?
I see as a supplemental I see it really as an extension of the
social safety net, I see it as as our 21st century, um, Social
Security. In the Great Depression, we decide that folks
who are older, deserve to have a little bit of cushion post 65
Because they've done so much for our communities. And also think
because
Adam Curry: they've done so much for our communities. No, because
they paid that money in, you're supposed to steward it, man, you
didn't you stole it.
Unknown: And also think our current government programs
should take note about what makes guaranteed income works
because hey, it's the money. But be it's also the trust, that
maybe people don't need to do a bunch of paperwork. Maybe folks
don't need someone to sit down and make them come in and set
goals. Maybe a lot of folks just need cash. And maybe that will
make some of the investments we're making as a government
that much more efficient.
Adam Curry: He did banking on people not noticing this. He's
gone, man. I'm sorry. It's just gone. Where are we going? This
is the final clip. Where are we going to get the money from
Unknown: these programs, the pilot programs, some of them use
government money. Some of them use private donations, some of
them use grant money from foundations. If you were able to
make this permanent across the country, how do you think it
should be funded? We
are able to make this permanent across the country. And again, I
get the child tax credit is a huge start, which is a
guaranteed income, be it for families with children. So state
governments, county governments, local governments, we're doing
pilots there, because those governments can't deficit spin.
They have to have a balanced budget every year. Our federal
government can, and we do, we can also raise revenue. We can
legalize cannabis nationwide and use a tax revenue for that to
pay for guaranteed income. We could close in 2017 Trump tax
cuts, which gave their dollars away to the richest among us, we
get close other tax loopholes, oh crap, a guaranteed income.
There's no shortage of ways of paying for it. I really believe
that. The question is, how do we build the wheel? How do we make
a necessity? It's a political question. We have to organize
and demand of our elected officials that this is what we
need and let them know this is not scary. It's not an extreme
position. This is not a utopian position. This is a position
that Republicans and Democrats alike are both suffering. And
that's sliminess anger. We see this this this raging populism
we see comes from economic anxiety in some way. So this is
not a partisan issue, which is a long answer to say it's a
political question, but we've been doing the work to build
political will, it will continue pushing until we get there. I
Adam Curry: think it will happen. And I think this is the
plan. I'm now I'm gonna go a little Whitney Webb on you. But
this is this is where you bring in your central bank, digital
currency. This is where you can print your money, you can make
it all magically appear, put it into people's pocket. That would
be the way to do it. Not this whatever he was saying I got
Foundation's grant Manana. And this is on PBS. So it's not
obscure, you know, they're working this angle.
John C Dvorak: Well, they're gonna take it, it's gonna take a
lot more work. I'm not going to argue that it's not going to
happen eventually. Because the way things are set up. It's it
has to happen. It's almost inevitable. But what the
Adam Curry: timeframe Basic Income universal basic income,
yeah, yeah,
John C Dvorak: it's inevitable. But the tie, especially after
robbing the Social Security money. And then they've done
they've ratchet everybody down. I mean, I make money on Social
Security and my wife makes half as much. And you know, it's
gonna be almost nothing. Of course, expect Well, there you
go. Yeah, I never thought of that. So they're going to
implement to somehow, because it's a necessity, and I don't
know how it's going to come. It's not going to be good. It's
going to be something it's going to be something screwed up about
it. You know that yes. Government.
Adam Curry: Yeah. But maybe we won't be around maybe it'll take
a long time. Maybe. No,
John C Dvorak: I think it's going to take a long time. We
can cruise along for a while. You're gonna first I gotta get
set up the shanty towns.
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, yes, yes, this
John C Dvorak: is good news. And I have a shanty town story kind
of this like a street on up here in Novato. I didn't know
anything about this. I was watching this on the news.
Where's this clip? Good questions on here.
Adam Curry: Homeless Novato solution. Gotcha. That would
John C Dvorak: probably be the clip
Unknown: campers began showing up on Binford Road in rural
Nevada shortly after the 2017 Tubbs fire made a lot of Sonoma
County residents homeless. Over the years. It's grown thanks to
the pandemic, the economy and high cost of living. Dino monta.
Reylo moved his trailer here from Sonoma County about eight
months ago and says a lot of the stress has been relieved here
is nice because you don't have to worry about the shares coming
in and kicking, making you move go to another spot and then
making you go to another spot and back and forth in standard
Sonoma. We that's what we're doing constantly constantly
shuffling individuals around or moving them from location to
location doesn't really solve anything. Marine supervisor Eric
Lucan says the county is taking a more practical approach to the
RVs on Binford making the encampment more livable rather
than just trying to remove it. They supply portable toilets and
hand washing stations and trash pickup three times a week so you
don't see piles of garbage and junk collected other camps. But
Lucan says there was a necessary first step number one we stopped
it from growing any larger, we physically closed off spaces on
Binford road to stop the growth. As soon as a vehicle leaves a
fence or earthen berm is put in its place. Slowly the number of
people living on Binford has been reduced to 101 individuals.
Just in the last month we've seen 10 individuals on Binford
road move into a more permanent permanent housing solution. You
know the approach we're taking on Binford is We want the next
move that anybody on Binford road has to make that next move
they should make should be into into a house to encourage that
the county is trying something new, an idea that work to clear
out many of the unwanted anchor out boats in Richardson harbor.
They're offering to pay people on Binford road who find
permanent housing $175 per linear foot for their old RVs.
So a standard RV that might be four or $5,000. These funds can
be used for first last month's rent security deposit or whole
variety of things needed when they make that move.
Adam Curry: Yeah, sure. Give me the money.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, give me the money that you need to get the
money here.
Adam Curry: Here's what I think the people experiencing
homelessness and we have a few people listening who have been
experiencing homelessness. Sure.
John C Dvorak: You have to buy the numbers we have. We have to
have quite a few actually one of our producers
Adam Curry: actually sent to boots on the ground. He He
doesn't say he's homeless. He says he is van lifing which I
think is a great way of just van lifing. He's a van lifer. And he
gave me a boots on the ground report about Humboldt Park in
Chicago. But he's horrible tents that they've put down for
migrants that that are not waterproof. They're trying to
throw plastic over them to waterproof or make them a little
bit warmer. The tent is not waterproof, rather these orange
things that are kind of like geodesic dome tents are no good.
And, and I was thinking, considering all the reports
we're seeing about the migration replacement program from the
United Nations into mainly the United States but of course all
over Western Europe is your best bet is to find one of these. One
of these people who works for these agencies, these NGOs who
shuttle illegal immigrants around you can always you'll
know because of a clipboard or maybe an umbrella or both. And
just go over there and say and snowing glass and then you'll
get a debit card you're gonna phone you're buying. You get a
you get you can get a piece of paper that you can travel to any
city you want. This is people are mad. Everybody seeing this
now. People are mad about these long lines to get on the plane.
The paying customers now have to wait while the illegal migrants
get on the board first. They don't have to show any ID. They
can it's people are mad. This is this is the Biden has screwed
this one up. They really you know ball blows his taxes taxes.
No, no, no. The coming from Arizona. They're coming from and
they're they're getting on flight. So it's Texas now. No,
I'm so sorry. I thought that you said something.
John C Dvorak: No, I just mumbled Texas. I think I have a
migration update. It says duration but it's actually
migration update on NTD.
Unknown: More people are entering the United States
illegally this week. Fox News on Friday published this video of
African men arriving at the southern border saying only two
border agents were on the scene to process all of the people you
see here. CBP tells the outlet that there have been 45,000
encounters at the border since Monday, able to fill Yankee
Stadium in just four days. Monday was the highest day of
encounters ever recorded with 12,600. December is on pace to
become the highest month ever. Many say they're heading for
sanctuary cities. New York, New York, Chicago, Chicago, Chicago,
Chicago. Mexico's president on Friday acknowledged the
situation is getting worse. Even what's happening. We will boost
as much as we can to help maintain an orderly flow of
migrants, which recently there was an abnormal surge of
migrants are they
now this king, he now says he'll step up efforts on Mexico
southern border with Guatemala and seek agreements to manage
higher numbers of immigrants attempting to enter the US? Oh,
higher
Adam Curry: numbers. Oh, just manage them. Don't worry about
it. Africa, there are now these so called travel agencies in
Senegal. They have websites. They have completely complete
packages. Well, yeah, we'll get you we'll get you to the US.
John C Dvorak: Like it's like Yeah, well, that guy in that
report who whose voice I love. He said they showed that mostly
Africans coming in as slot Africans, but they'd be Play
Part Two.
Unknown: Meanwhile, Texas is now reportedly adding anti climbing
technology to its fences in Brownsville that's by erecting
12 foot tall fences laced with three feet of concertina wire.
This comes just that love
Adam Curry: the anti climbing technology. Wire I love
Unknown: this called my mighty rifle. This comes just days
after a court temporary rarely prohibited the federal
government from removing the state's razor wires. And lastly,
in New York City, the United Federation of Teachers is suing
Mayor Eric Adams back in November, Adams warned of budget
cuts for city services.
So it's going to is going to be extremely painful for New
Yorkers. And that is why we continue to say we need help.
The mayor now wants to cut half a billion dollars from education
in order to deal with the influx of illegal immigrants.
Adam Curry: Oh, this is great. All right, but I have one clip
from Chicago, just so we can hear what Chicago has done
because you know, it's Texas, Texas, these people, the one you
just heard they're getting on planes flying in Chicago, but
okay, it's Texas. It's that horrible Texans government. I
can't believe that Governor, that guy's no good if he wasn't
in a wheelchair, I'd beat him up. So they've now put a rule in
place in Chicago. That if you if you're coming in with a bus with
illegal immigrants, then you have to call up five days ahead
of time to get permission. But of course they can't or they
encounter the bus impound the bus. Of course, no one's going
to because you're not gonna get permission from the sanctuary
cities from now. Oh, no, no, so that just dropping them off
anywhere now
Unknown: lets companies from Texas are dropping off migrants
in areas outside Chicago Friday night Hinsdale became the latest
suburb to see migrants dropped off without advanced warning.
City officials say communication is broken down between Chicago
and officials along the southern border. Buses transporting
migrants are avoiding the city's designated landing zone. This is
in response to tougher penalties for bus owners who violate a new
city ordinance. This week. migrants were dropped off in
areas like wooddale Aurora and Kankakee County Sheriff Mike
Downey says migrants were found walking on Interstate 57. They
were dropped off Thursday morning at a truck stop. They
were told that they had read Chicago he says migrants were
wrapped in blankets and several children were among them. They
all came from El Paso, Texas has offices working on tracking down
the bus company. Meanwhile, in Aurora, we
didn't turn anyone away. And I hope that as you all leave this
room today, you have that clear Aurora city
leaders hold a special meeting Friday afternoon to discuss the
influx of migrants arriving by bus at the Aurora Transportation
Center. They say migrants are being encouraged to board Metro
trains and head to Chicago, they pass an emergency ordinance
requiring bus companies to now give a five day notice to get
approval for a drop off along with a detailed care plan for
their passengers.
It's necessary for us to be responsible
and take those steps to protect not only those individuals that
being dropped off here in Aurora those migrants but also protect
the residents of Aurora. And
again, just today migrants we're seeing boarding trains from
Aurora to Chicago that new ordinance in Aurora going into
effect tonight the buses in violation will be facing fines
and potential forfeiture of their bus.
Adam Curry: This is the single issue that that will not makes
Biden unelectable unreal electable. The Americans are
sick of it and they're sick of it because it seems like we
don't hate these people. But no, just stop. This is this is
ridiculous. Have you seen the Eagle Pass video? Yeah, wow.
It's like Disneyland lines. And we're like Disneyland. This is
this is totally crazy. So what is Biden to go talk to Mexico
Unknown: in the town of Eagle Pass hundreds of people waiting
the coal to be processed by US border officials.
In recent weeks illegal border crossings have seen a surge
straining immigration services. President Biden who is seeking
reelection next year is trying to regain control of the issue.
He has been under significant political pressure to curb the
numbers President
had a chance this morning to speak by phone with President
Lopez Obrador of Mexico. two leaders agreed that additional
enforcement actions are urgently needed so that key ports of
entry can be reopened across our shared border. President Biden
has asked Secretary of State Tony Blinken, Secretary of
Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas and White House
Homeland Security Adviser Liz Sherwood Randall to travel to
Mexico in coming days.
The US president has been accused by Republicans of being
too lacks on immigration. In recent weeks. Border Police have
been recording almost 10,000 people crossing the border every
day. This comes as the governor of Texas signed a bill on Monday
effectively criminalizing the illegal entry of migrants with
penalties ranging from 180 days in jail to 20 years in prison.
The law, known as SB four will also give local authorities the
power to deport migrants to Mexico and this set to come into
force in March
and instead of I'm also signing Senate Bill three from the
fourth special session. Senate Bill three as $1.54 billion More
to build more Border barriers and
walls. Like what we have here. The
Biden administration's takeover comes at a time when
parliamentarians in Washington are discussing an agreement on
immigration, a condition imposed by the Republicans in order to
unblock the financial aid to Ukraine sought by the
President's.
Adam Curry: There you go.
John C Dvorak: Did you know she said the Biden administration's
takeover? Yeah, I
Adam Curry: heard that. What does that mean? I'm not sure.
I'm not sure. When was that report from the France 24? All
they have to do is just say, No, we're just going to adhere to
the law. They don't need comprehensive immigration
reform. No, the
John C Dvorak: only thing the law is the law we have a law in
place we're gonna get comprehensive
Adam Curry: immigration reform it will require the ID in order
to work that now that Whitney Webb that's what's happening.
That's where your your government ID comes in. That's
where That's where it comes from. Not from X. All right. Let
me just just so we can just a little bit of Christmas cheer.
Let's go down under for Christmas cheer. We're
Unknown: in for a COVID Christmas this year as cases
rise, particularly in children. Lose Daniels takes us through
the latest data from New South Wales Health.
Well School's out and COVID about the number of emergency
department presentations has been climbing steadily over the
past three weeks, driven by children and people aged between
17 and 49. New South Wales Health sewage surveillance now
pointing to Bondi, Liverpool and Quakers Hill as the virus
hotspots with new variants including J and one on the rise.
There were also increases in the number of influenza and RSV
cases, both also surging in children and New South Wales
Health advice perhaps the greatest gift you can give your
vulnerable loved ones these Christmas is to take them to get
the newest updated monovalent to shop.
Adam Curry: There you go. Hey, you go and it's the wastewater
we know this because of the your poop water and Ives how we know
that COVID is on the rise.
John C Dvorak: And of course we know it's on the rise because of
this super clip I have.
Adam Curry: Oh, no, please don't play it because we played that
in 2021.
John C Dvorak: It's just a classic.
Adam Curry: How about this? How about this? How about I play
your classic but I play it from Episode 1392 2021.
John C Dvorak: Does that sound good day wonders they've been
added into the exact same clip, especially the TV broadcasters.
There
Adam Curry: is a fabulous supercut that has been doing the
rounds which I shall play for you that illustrates exactly how
much big pharma owns. The media is brought to you by
Unknown: Pfizer, CBS Healthwatch
sponsored by Pfizer, Anderson Cooper 360.
Brought to you by Pfizer.
John C Dvorak: I'll just say okay, I'll tell you this is not
the exact same one because the first clip in this new one's
longer. It's the same thing. It has a woman passing out and then
every other clip has a woman or a guy falling over
Adam Curry: yes this morning sponsored by Pfizer. Good
Morning America is brought to you by fire. CBS Healthwatch
sponsored by Pfizer, Anderson Cooper 360 brought to you by
Pfizer Nightline we're not brought to you by Pfizer but I
would like to say in the morning to you the man who put the seeds
in the COVID Christmas say hello to my friend on the other end
the one and only Mr. Johnson
John C Dvorak: in the morning, Mr. Adam curry the more he ships
at sea the boots on the ground the feet in the air the subs in
the water and the Dames
Adam Curry: and the mornings
Wow, a whole bunch of them ran away. I don't even want to tell
you what the count is for today. It's Christmas. Christmas is
bad. John is bad. It was the best of times it was the worst
of times. 13 No. Nobody's
John C Dvorak: expected to be listening to our show. Except
the ones that are important people out there. 1000 A day
like is a holiday when they should be spending time with
friends
Adam Curry: and families. 1393 Charles Holy moly. That
John C Dvorak: is the record low for a Sunday is pretty bad.
That's the record low for Sunday because that's that's half of
what the audience
Adam Curry: should be as low. Okay,
John C Dvorak: I tell you it's just low. Maybe the material was
no good today.
Adam Curry: The material was dynamite. We did nothing but
laugh. I mean, if we're not laughing then we didn't do our
job. Oh no, I think and you know what, these are the true trolls.
These are the the the hard core core trolls or hardcore trolls.
And you can become one of those trolls On Thursdays and Sundays,
we'll do the show live, you can do it at work, go to troll
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you're doing something. But meanwhile, the troll room and
it's great because you can just say whatever you want, you can
grab a and you know, it's cool. And there's no accountability
because it scrolls off. It's ephemeral. It should be
John C Dvorak: lowered next Sunday, because that is actually
New Year's Day Eve. Where's he? We're starting Years Eve, where
people are partying?
Adam Curry: Yes, well, there will be we have partying trolls.
There's some trolls who like to party. Yeah, it'd be good. I'm
looking forward. We don't mind working on these days. Because
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But we knew that we would weather the storm if people
actually enjoy the outstanding product that we make. And you
keep telling us that it is an outstanding product. So we're
still here. When that ends, the show ends it's that simple. What
was that story you had about that meat shop?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know, so here's the thing. So I'm, I
like game. And there was, you know, reindeer meat is
delicious. So you're gonna get that here in the United States,
but it's delicious elk and get deer. You can get moose, by the
way, killer moose. And so there's this game shop that was
in a peninsula and it was known to have all these these these
crazy meats, including quail and different duck. And I one year I
was going to go down there and get some meat for a special
event and the place it closed down completely was gone. And it
left me feeling that well maybe myself and others who are like
eating elk and moose if we had supported the place just for
maybe once in a while instead of waiting five years to go down
there to place would still be in business and be doing a good
business and I could now go down there and get what I want to
know gone for good. That's right. Never come never came
back and you're still sad about or still worked about him. So
don't let that happen to you people. This is what happened to
cranky geeks by the way, same thing. A real it's never coming
back.
Adam Curry: And that's because people didn't support you.
John C Dvorak: We couldn't do well as long as it fell apart.
The same thing because people watching come back. That's the
point. People weren't buying it goes away. Did never comes back.
I mean, this is where it reminds us Are you and I have been
talking about some of these return to TV bullcrap shows like
oh, like what was the one rager Fraser Fraser no good. It's just
terrible. They lost. They lost. The plot is not funny. It's not
the same writers. It's no good. And my favorite one and I have
to apologize to you for this one. Because you made the
comment just out of the blue. I'm talking about the Jon
Stewart show. Jon Stewart had a show on Apple or something and
you said he was fired? Yes. I said no. He wasn't fired. He
agreed to quit. I made it. Yeah, he was making it up. I didn't
know until I watched the show.
Adam Curry: And then you're like No wonder he was fired. It
John C Dvorak: was terrible. He wasn't funny. He was like, you
know knee jerk liberal stuff. That was no good. He is butting
in on things. He shouldn't be having anything to do with
didn't have the same writers obviously. No. And it was no
good. And they Yeah, and he got booted off but I think he was
fired. Yes,
Adam Curry: he was fired. He was fired. out you're fired. You're
done. You're toast goodbye.
John C Dvorak: But as Kelsey Grammer thing is no good is no
good. What is good they did the same thing by the way with the
with the show. That was the name of this show. That guy was the
guy On the slinger Marshall. It's not called vengeance. It's
Adam Curry: called Clouds MacLeod.
John C Dvorak: No, no, God wasn't McLeod. What cloud was
the show? Yes. When I'm talking about,
Adam Curry: I don't know what you're talking about.
John C Dvorak: Timothy Olyphant was the main character. Somebody
might remember what it is gonna try to bring
Adam Curry: that back Gunsmoke.
John C Dvorak: They should try to bring Gunsmoke back I bet you
that really failed they
Adam Curry: bring back Hogan's Heroes. That will be funny.
Hogan said you needed people saying crane, justified just
John C Dvorak: justified. Yes, exactly. Justify, they brought
it back. So here's the show. This premise was a guy who was
he was a martial, but he was also the premise was he was a
quick draw artist. So he would get some beef with people and he
would just gun him down. So he was killing people in the first
year, especially everybody, somebody was getting going down
every show. So the second they bring it back after a few years
of high they left it and then they brought it back. And they
left a gunslinger part out, which was the only part that was
interesting. Oh, dumb is that
Adam Curry: that's right. When we're gone. There's that's it?
I'd be no agenda. It can never be no agenda again.
John C Dvorak: And if there isn't, it'll be like a dud. No,
Adam Curry: it won't. It'll be Adam and Mo what he's talking
about now will both be a dud Yes. What I said what was not a
dud was the artwork. Although I did have some comments on it.
You didn't like it at all the artwork which came from Dame
Kenny Ben for episode 1618. Of course, we titled that fat
leonard, how could we not? And well, even though the art
Jenner's generator is back up, and thank you so much for Polka
tour for resurrecting it for bringing it back from the dead.
The artwork? For some reason, John, you wanted to go for a
traditional Christmas thing? I'm like, No, let's do that on
Christmas. I wanted the curry Devorah swear jars, which I
thought was great. You were like, Man, this has no dynamics
if the and then you'd like I want the Christmas the Christmas
stockings hung by the fire. And like this boring much episode.
There were two choices from Dame Kenny Ben. One was just your
stocking my stocking. And then she had a second one with M five
M. When under the day you call in a bag of coal but then mine
my stockings in the fire? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: this is your complaint you said yeah. And
usually here's the dilemma. Did you give a Louis inside baseball
here you also said okay, we'll take this one but I'm gonna
bitch about it on the next show
Adam Curry: because my stalking was in the fire years his
stalking was in the fire. I don't like it in the fire. The
like, I didn't delete a drawing. We both kind of like Darren
O'Neill's press stooges but we agreed that the press bad
badgers in their hat band was too small and people might not
get it although the goofy look was pretty good for AI. It's aI
obvious Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it was a it was aI everyone's got aI
Adam Curry: you even tried to pawn off that no weed no phone
thing that was no good for a man that was also Dan Kennedy. Ben
you try it you'd like Oh, that's great. No, it's not. Was not did
not then you did you tried it? And then what else was there?
There was kind of it. There really wasn't. Wasn't much. It
looks like people understand for this show. People have caught on
there's a lot of traditional Christmas artwork. So I'm
excited to look at that when we're done. But thank you damn
candy, man. We really appreciate your time. Two in a row for her.
That is Yes, that's right.
John C Dvorak: So she gets it again today and the hat trick.
She gets
Adam Curry: it. That's right. So it's pretty rare on petitioners
on That's right. And she'll get on the front page of The Art
Generator, no agenda, art generator.com You can play
along. You could actually participate. You can upload your
own artwork, you know, get your whole artist profiles all
swanky. If you when you get on the front page as leader boards.
There's all kinds of cool things. It's Republica tourism.
And that's another example of time, talent or treasure, time
and talent a lot of time and talent and probably put some
treasure in there too. Just to make this thing work. We
appreciate it. Same with all the producers who help us here it is
value for value. We provide the value upfront there's no no
paywalls no Patreon levels, you know, no tricks, no gimmicks, no
advertising, no creepy corporate money. We just say hey, if you
if you got any value out of the show, send it back to us. Some
people don't do it for years then they do. Some people do a
little bit every single month for years and years and years
and all sudden they're night or day. Doesn't matter. But we
can't determine the value that you receive. We can't tell
determine what value you place on that. But we do have a number
of people who have given us the treasure of the time, talent and
treasure and we want to thank them right now starting off with
and there he is. The man who always saves the day at the end
of the month, sir animus of Dogpatch on lower Slobo via he
sends his he's always sends it to us and cash. It always
includes a $2. Bill. I'm just going to guess that was one at
least one $2 bill today or maybe six. No one $4,000 $4,012 Wow,
this is massive, massive thank
John C Dvorak: you is just a base one of his biggest
donations for this
Adam Curry: end of year. Thank you so much, and he always has a
typewritten note. When today's note, interestingly, has a has a
has a footnote, I noticed he has a little one. And there's a
footnote Do you see that? I'm gonna go open it now he has a
footprint. It doesn't I'm trying to see where the number one Oh,
okay. The I when I hit the footnote, I will read the
footnote from synonymous with Dogpatch and lo Shlomo via thank
you to all producers that always make this such an insightful
source of information. deconstruction of the three
university presidents testimony was enlightening and paralleled
a discussion with another university president Serrano's
gets around. She shared the view that the presidents were
overlawyered, which is what I said, and had a 47 word Title
Nine mindset that no Congress person would understand or
appreciate. It's what you said. So a fourth university president
who was smart enough not to get invited, confirmed that we were
spot on Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas to the many producers.
Thank you for your faith. Oh, wait. The footnote. She shared
the view that the presidents were overloaded and had a 47
word Title Nine mindset. Now the word I have here, the footnote,
no person, the United States shall on the basis of sex, be
educated. Be six, be excluded from participation in you got
it? Right. I'd got it right. Oh, I've read it again. No person in
the United States shall on the basis of sex be excluded from
participation in be denied the benefits of or be subjected to
discrimination under any education program or activity
receiving federal Finance, Financial Assistance? There you
go. They can't do it. Otherwise, money goes away. Is that the
basic premise here?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the premise is that they would have been
violating Title Nine by their interpretation at the moment.
And that's what the lawyers I think, convinced him of when in
fact, they could have said any number of things. They're,
they're too rigid. These women were not smart, trained. They're
not well, they're probably weren't smart, but they weren't
trained in obfuscation and how to talk to agencies properly and
how to beat around the bush proper way. Happy
Adam Curry: Hanukkah, Merry Christmas to the many producers
thank you for your faith. I hope all have a blessed holiday
season. Happy Hanukkah. Merry Christmas, Allah Akbar. No
jingles no karma. And we thank you profusely sir animus of
Dogpatch and Lois LeBeau via
John C Dvorak: the man onward with an anonymous donation. On
I'm sorry, Mike and Betty, you get the anonymous one. Mike and
Betty Kenny, Becky and Becky Becky. But I say you said Benny
Benny Yeah. Mike and and baby Benny. Mike and Becky kitty in
Katy Texas. Merry Christmas. And she they two of them came in
with 647 71 Merry Christmas to all get more nation this
donation 648 71 allows both my Darling Bride Becky and myself
to Baronet and Baronet tests we met for the first time in 71.
Oddly enough on Christmas Eve today's the 52nd anniversary of
that world changing Whoa.
Adam Curry: 52 years together and they never had a fight.
Never.
John C Dvorak: Today's the 52nd anniversary of that world
changing meeting, I would have put event plus six for 871 is a
prime number. But I thought that would be cool. For this special
day, Mike Kinney night of the great Katy Prairie and Becky
game of the great Katy Prairie. Yes, we
Adam Curry: should be great. We will be upgrading you
momentarily. Thank you so much for your courage. Anonymous is
in Redford, North Carolina. $500 And just as anonymous please no
jingles. No. No jingles no karma. Not even a double up. You
got it. Thank you.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Sir Chris in Carmel by the sea in
California. A which used to be the mayor used to be a Clint
Eastwood switcheroo in Japan out John anatomy it and very merry
Christmas you and yours thanks as always for the excellent
media deconstruction over the past year here's to a happy,
healthy and prosperous new year. For the entire no agenda family
please credit this executive producer ship for the love of my
life. And soul mate Dame Kristen Carmel by the sea she's
celebrating her 29th birthday today. Happy Birthday bird thank
you for your courage cheers circus carnival
Adam Curry: by the sea and she's on the list and the switcheroo
has been made John Greer is in enterprise Alabama 333 33 Our
favorite donation amount thanks for your hard work keep it up
I'd love some jobs karma for the new year because jobs karma
works jobs
Unknown: jobs jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs karma
John C Dvorak: William mount nee in Mount Holly New Jersey 33333
No Note that we can find nothing else so that means he gets a
double up karma like it or
Adam Curry: not yes and he's his name is actually bill and he did
one of the end of show mixes for today's show so we appreciate
that bill.
Unknown: He's got karma
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. Anonymous in valid vo Yes.
Sorry. valatie Velocity balance at noon New York. I've never
heard of that. Either. 333 33 Merry Christmas. This donation
is long overdue and done in haste. Please keep me anonymous
no jingles or Karma done you got it. Thank you.
John C Dvorak: USA here comes from Rancho Santa Margarita
California. U S A toy sales trainer $33.33 He got no note
whatsoever so let's give them a double up karma that'll do it.
Unknown: You've got karma
Adam Curry: Eric mcaro Ed's is in Socorro, New Mexico 333 33
Merry Christmas to you and your To Do you to and your family.
Thank you. Happy holiday to the rest of no agenda family. I need
to remember to check but I might be a baron or night by now.
Well, you should check on that. Let's go check. Let us know.
Upcoming
John C Dvorak: as Surrey Yogi in West, Richland, Washington.
Three Three ITM genser. Yo, yo, here's a switcheroo to be
credited to my better half Dame Janice of the bombing range.
Dame Janet sets the big 65 On December 26. So please add her
to the birthday list. We've been tripping around the sentence for
some 45 years now. It's still having a good time doing it.
Happy birthday, sweetie. Please give her a good karma and a
little girl yay. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you
get bow nation. Sir Yogi the night of the Carnival midway.
Unknown: You've got karma
John C Dvorak: dog bark was? Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. Tina is back with the stepdaughter and her
fiance. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: like the dog has an echo in that room. Yeah, it's
just perfect
Adam Curry: as I know. Well, you're gonna have to enjoy it.
John from immediate casualty casualty care. It is John from
immediate casualty cares in Columbus, Ohio. 333 Season's
Greetings, John and Adam I donate today because I've been
seeing the magic number 33 Literally everywhere. And that's
the sign to do do the voodoo and donate. Also, please mention my
website immediate casualty care.com. So I can write this
off as an advertising expense because I'm not giving any more
of my rapidly inflating Federal Reserve notes to the big guy.
Then I have to remember to leave out cricket cookies for Santa
Santa Klaus Schwab Have a merry fourth turning and a Happy New
World Order. Peace out John from immediate casualty care. Good
note, funny.
John C Dvorak: Anna Farley in Cleveland, Ohio 333 and Hannah
has a switcheroo I'm getting all Switcheroos except the next one.
On behalf of a switcheroo on behalf of Benjamin dumb zosky
free to be feel free to butcher that name. Your Christian your
Christian Christian your Christmas I'm butchering
everything else your your Christmas dream of producing the
post cast with the most beeps boops and jingle jangles has
come true. Thanks John and Adam.
Adam Curry: J I'd like to post cast I think that's a good one.
Andrew scollard is in Marietta, California 333 Switcheroo John
Adam this is a long awaited make good for my father Jesse. I
wanted to make him an executive producer of 1512 but didn't ask
for the switcheroo better over 100 episodes late than never
love you dad. Uh oh jingles kiss my ring and beautiful young. You
may kiss my ring. Do you fall
John C Dvorak: classic Priscilla Oh, Leary in Ramona, California,
Ramona 300 Merry Christmas to you and your family and God
bless all the new agenda listeners. Kevin and Priscilla
O'Leary. Bowman,
Adam Curry: Bowman McMahon, San Antonio, Texas San Antonio first
Associate Executive Producer for today 270 Thanks and Merry
Christmas. Thank you America Christmas to you.
John C Dvorak: Catherine Boudreau in Carlisle,
Massachusetts 250 ITM John and Adam wishing you and the entire
no agenda family a blessing holiday. We love listening to
you both. Thank you for the twice weekly dose of clarity and
humor. Merry Merry Christmas from Catherine Boudreau in
Carlisle.
Adam Curry: Dillon is in Chilliwack Of course he is. in
Chilliwack, British Columbia Canada Navia to 4078 My car was
totaled in an accident a tire flew through the middle of the
highway and landed on my hood. To my surprise I received a good
offer from insurance but that didn't stop me from asking them
for more well wouldn't you know they sent me a check for an
extra 333 dot 40 So I've oh so he should be he should be bumped
up it should be bumped up yes you will be an executive
producer. So so he's sending us the bonus check for 333 40
John C Dvorak: Yeah he asked for Please ask any shall receive
that's
Adam Curry: right and knock and it will be open. So I for this
bonus on to you please add me to the birthday list it was on
December 20 jingles realize it on the magic number and
relationship karma please Merry Christmas no agenda
Unknown: in the standby 333 33 or otherwise are out. Dirty.
Dozen magic. Magic.
You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: And another switcheroo coming up from Sir
drywall in Petrolia, Ontario, Canada on September 13. I did an
instant eye donation and commented that if you mentioned
nows and a US drywall of petroleum Ontario this in a US
drywall. I could write it off as marketing. Well, it worked. I
got a great house the drywall out of the deal. So here's my
follow up donation. And he wants to give a switcheroo to Jamie
Forsythe, the contractor who hired me thanks for WORKING
CHRISTMAS EVE no jingles no Carmen 225610 Nice.
Adam Curry: Then we have a note from Sir pursuit of peace and
tranquility with a row of ducks to 2222 and he actually asked us
to hold this in abeyance he sent it on December 1 That's a very
risky thing to do. Very risky very risky but you got lucky
this time. In the morning boys please accept this shorter row
of ducks for the month of December to keep myself current.
In addition, I would greatly appreciate some jobs karma for
our youngest human resource and for my keeper Please play the
birthday biscuit jingle for who? To celebrate her 57th trip
around the sun they always give me a biscuit on my birthday
appreciate in advance the karma and the jingle keep it brief
sincerely pursuit of peace and tranquility in the lens of the
red clay and the cherry trees and He gives us His accounting
and thank you very much of course we'd be more than happy
to hand out some jobs karma for your spouse and human resources
jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs
John C Dvorak: he or she is de mad stryd of Tokyo that's right
DeMasters
Adam Curry: actually Japan and the all the disputed
John C Dvorak: I yeah I mentioned at the end she said
she's a duchess, Duchess Dame Astrid in Tokyo, Tokyo. Dear
John and Adam whenever I hear you talking about exit strategy
my alarm bells go off and it's time to donate. May this day
never come wishing you and your lovely families a merry
christmas Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan and all the disputed
islands tu tu tu dot two two road ducks Thank you name.
Adam Curry: De mastered? Yes. Say hi to Sir Mark for us as
well. Dave The broke air controller. Indianapolis Indiana
short road ducks 22 dot 22 donation note from Dave The
broke air traffic controller. And I just thought I'd mentioned
the last show but he sent me in the mail he I think I talked
about this. He sent me a huge packet of stuff he should not
have sent me.
John C Dvorak: Yes, you mentioned this okay about lasers
Adam Curry: from C 130s and stuff But we appreciate your
brother thank you very much have yourself an eggnog with whiskey
on the job today. I know that's what you guys love.
John C Dvorak: Sir Jeremy shum body in Oakville, Ontario Canada
we get some Canadians coming in a lot. Yeah. tu tu tu tu tu tu
another row of Dutch ITM John and Adam a Merry Christmas and a
Happy New Year, sir Jeremy, chum, buddy somehow
Adam Curry: I think there's a correlation between our Jewish
producers eating Chinese on Christmas and our Canadian
producers donating on Christmas. I'm not sure why. It feels like
there's a correlation there. Maybe even what Lawrence Kansas
$200 No note double up karma for you and
Unknown: you've got karma
John C Dvorak: que es in Madison Heights Virginia. 200. Thanks
for all the work you to to put the show together and keep us
all informed. You guys rock. Thank
Adam Curry: you. Hi. Yes, there's Brandon. Who from
Flagstaff, Arizona. Blandon Brandon trainwreck. And I read
his note earlier he is the the dude named Ben who was if only
the the to the captain and the commander had given him some of
their hotel rooms and bribes and hookers and blow he would have
taught them about the how to not get caught in the in the old
Lenny's
John C Dvorak: password. Cryptography
Adam Curry: so great podcast he says bring back the stuff about
secure phones. We actually talked about that earlier. I'm
due for a new one and it would be nice if it didn't spy on me.
Well, that's not gonna Good luck. I would say I have an idea
Yeah, John Cena vortex idea. Put it in a drawer don't use a phone
no phone. That's right. You're a no PHONER I'm
John C Dvorak: a no phone or an old phone or no Boehner. That's
all right. I'll come up with a better phrase to be better.
Adam Curry: You're up? Oh,
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. Oh, and who is it? Oh, it's Linda.
LAPACK in in Lakewood, Colorado. Good. Oh, Linda. She comes in
with $200 as usual with with the staredown and she wants to jobs
karma. And she says for a resume that gets results go to Image
makers inc.com For all of your executive resume and job search
needs. This image makers ink with a case like a que ink I NK
are just fine Linda Lou packin under the show's producer list,
Merry Christmas jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.
Adam Curry: Wonderful, our executive and Associate
Executive producers for episode 1619. Thank you all so much for
supporting us. Of course, we appreciate the support that all
of you give us all the way down to the $3 level that I see on
today's spreadsheet. Of course you don't mention anybody under
50 For reasons of anonymity and we always appreciate those of
you who are on sustaining donations which you can find it
no agenda donations.com Or at vora.org/and A those things
really help out in the slower months and very Merry Christmas
to all of you. We appreciate what you've done for us and we
continue to provide the value for you since you came back with
the value for us. Jon's gonna take us through the 50s now,
John C Dvorak: yeah, it's a pretty good list. Just starting
with Nathan traywick in San Antonio, Texas. 175 57 He needs
a de doo dee doo deuced and you'll get some jobs karma at
the end. Hopefully right at the end. Lydia Terry Dominello in
Rochester New Hampshire one twos 533. Chloe cheer Hart in lost
wages Nevada 12233. And this is a switcheroo on behalf of Phil
shear Hart from your loving wife Chloe. Happy anniversary. Morgan
Medlock in for crest Washington 10101 in field 100 And he has
under the mistaken belief that he earns a note when it's not
absolutely
Adam Curry: that's EB that's the next I'm
John C Dvorak: sorry, Ian feel says nothing. It is Eb in
Carlsbad, California. That stinks. He gets a note here read
but it's too long and it's under 200. So no, but he does get a D
douching.
Unknown: You've been D deuced.
John C Dvorak: I think he's got a douchebag call out in there.
Adam Curry: Yes. For Jamison who hit him in the mouth. That's his
brother.
John C Dvorak: That'll do get I'll do it. Chris England.
Ancaster Ontario Canada nein nein nein nein nein nein Nein.
With a lewd to notes thanks for that. Jason maror in Vancouver
Washington. 808 Sir Kevin McLaughlin and Nora, Concord
North Carolina 808 He does get his little note read because it
only says boobs are the peanut butter to our jelly. Okay, don't
eat sandwiches at Kevin's house. Sure. Boober in Nevada, Iowa 808
No, he wants his boobs for Christmas. Oh, yard and Karen in
XMF I'm getting there right shorts and cardboard and Karen
cotton cotton. Cotton in chyron in name Megan Nathan in Holland
77 T J of the side i Clayton North Carolina 75. carers.
Katherine Morton in Charlotte, North Carolina. 75 Monica
Lansing. Oh, Monica Lansing is back in Drayton Valley. De
Monica. Alberta. 74 Baroness Actually, her fat dad of the
BMX. I can't be in Mexicans. North Little Rock, Arkansas.
He's
Adam Curry: he's the guy that won as an old dude. He went he
did that whole BMX race and he won. Oh, yeah. As a fat tax
John C Dvorak: as a rough go as a 6969. You have to have a
strong crotch. Sure, Doherty and Stevens city Virginia has 5443
Cameron Linga in North Branch, Minnesota 6420. Nathan Newman is
floating around and APO box number 606 is a switcheroo for
his wife. Ria in Korea. Wow. She needs a D douching. You've been
D deuced. He's also on the birthday list Matthew L. wart in
Weatherford, Texas. 606 is small boobs. According to start Kevin
McLaughlin is back from Concord, North Carolina and he says what
606 Like Fine Art boobs are meant to be admired. Steven
Shevlin in Southampton, Massachusetts. 606. Also, small
boobs. Michelle Larson and Ham Lake Minnesota 606 with a merry
Christmas tour smokin out husband
Adam Curry: Ashley and she says yes, he is a male and we are not
a gay couple.
John C Dvorak: Okay, Ashley, good to know. And Michelle
Larson comes into second time with the same exact donation. Oh
interest 606 And then we're not sure what's going on there. But
that's Thank you very much you. Ban straw Baron of BNA,
Nashville, Tennessee at the 993 Dan Pinkerton with a birthday
from Chula Vista California $57 57th Birthday should be
boop. Night of the frozen tundra in New Brighton, Minnesota.
5678. Katie chopper in Livingston, Texas 5585 Marcus
Miller in monta Boer Deutschland 5522. Jimmy Frederickson.
MacFarlane, Wisconsin 5510 Ryan Smith, Raleigh, North Carolina
5510 surprise surprise, the night of astonishment Yukon,
Oklahoma 5444, Dame Nancy San Bruno California 5244. Barron
Henry paulose Rancho Palos Verdes days in California 5242
Amanda West and Red Wing Minnesota with a birthday 5222
Sir Woody in Sioux Falls South Dakota 5120 Mike Petrie in
Hampton, New Jersey with a switcheroo for his wife
Michelle. She loves the show, so she probably needs a D douching.
You've been D deuced. Is a $51 donation sir Sergeant postal in
Miami Lakes Florida 5033. Forrest Martin 5005 parts are
known as Sir Andrew Benz and Imperial Missouri 5005. And now
we finally get to the $50 donors to big list today. Sorry,
Michael Cicoria in New Richmond, Wisconsin. Tatsiana. Prince in
Hollywood, Florida. Greg Huff in Austin, Texas. David Perdue and
Snow Hill, North Carolina, gaucho woodworking go to their
website, gaucho woodworking in Redondo Beach, California. Got
some pretty cool stuff. They have the cutting boards that he
specializes in, it seems Katie Haskell in San Rafael California
Alex Delgado in Aptos, California Michael Romano, in
Sebastopol, California, James Farrell in Haverhill,
Massachusetts. Heather rose in Lander, Wyoming with a birthday
coming up Somebody needs her husband her man needs a D
douching.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: Diego Lopez crane in Ithaca, New York. 50 He's got
to know about some. Brian humble in Wimberley, Texas gaago Just
50.
Adam Curry: He said he's made a lot of sub $50 donations. He
wants that money to be contributed to the penny jar for
future producers. So Gotcha. Thank you.
John C Dvorak: That's nice. Brian Hummel, Wimberley, Texas,
Charles Boyd in San Marcos, Texas. Samuel Kennedy in North
Riverside, Illinois, Brandon Guzman in Den Haag, The Hague,
Netherlands. Brett lemons Mitchell, Indiana, Russ quarry
in Winter Park, Florida. David Hudson Lombard Illinois. John is
right you guys are educating the truck drivers of America. J
could a cine in Austin Texas. Steven crummy in El Cajon. Brian
P belong in s. S. S burry New Jersey. Patrick s. S. S. S
Ekstrom Ekstrom. In brick, New Jersey. Michael Stadium in parts
unknown and last on our list of a lot of people is Leanne
Shipley, Dame Lian in Covington, Washington. Want to thank
everybody on this list for helping make the as we wrap the
year, a successful show out of 1619 Thank
Adam Curry: you all so very much again, thank you to our
executive and Associate Executive producers. We have a
Baronet note from Nick Ridge who came in with a lower amount
Merry Christmas, John Adam. I've been on subscription for nearly
five years and it does add up and ready to take the Baronet
title on my birthday, which is on Christmas Eve 1619 show thank
you for your show. It's the best present please Knight me Burnett
nextar of the high Grove overlooking the Grand Terrace of
the Inland Empire. No jingles no karma I'll forage for food and
drink at the roundtable and we appreciate you and appreciate
your note and as requested a final jobs karma jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs
Adam Curry: and remember us torok.org/na Or no agenda
donations.com Thank you again for supporting us for episode
1690
Unknown: Our formula is this we go out we get people in the
mouth
tomorrow
Adam Curry: we got quite the list today. As you heard earlier
Dylan celebrated on the 20th Amanda West which is Adam a
happy birthday and I love you. I'll see you celebrate on the
22nd head the rose which is Scott happy one belated for the
22nd sort of pursuit of peace and tranquility wishes his
keeper a very happy birthday she turns 57 Today, Sir Chris wishes
his soul mate Dame Kristen of Carmel by the seat. A very happy
one for today as well. Nick Ridge is celebrating the dam
Pinkerton turns 57 Tomorrow sir Brian turn 60 to 65 tomorrow to
Yogi wishes Dame Janice at the bombing range a happy 165 On the
second day of Christmas the 26th Nathan Newman wished his wife
Maria in Korea happy one for January 1 My sister's birthday
as well. And TJ have the side iser TJ decide their wishes his
future millionaire Suni a happy birthday. Happy birthday for
everybody here the best podcast in the universe
don't want to do span we have the families that no agendas
together baronet's Together. We have Mike Kinney and Becky
Chinni and Mike is the night of the great Katy Prairie and Becky
of course is a dame with the great Katy Perry. They become
barren and bear Netis today look at them with those sashes. Hey,
look wonderful. I give them a round of applause. Everybody.
Thank you so much for supporting us. We do have one, one
knighting today, and that is our buddy there from the Inland
Empire. So let me get our inland empire. So California this week
boy Nick Wren step on up buddy. You are now about to become an
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All you today. No Baray Adam thanks votes count. I gotcha.
Thanks for hosting me, brother. But DC Adam thinks the votes
count. What votes? I don't know we're talking about voting. I
said this is why Joe Biden will not be reelected then he says
well I said no but I think the Republicans will cheat better
this time
John C Dvorak: everyone cheats and that's what's going to count
because they can be used one way or the other.
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Unknown: What happened?
Adam Curry: How did that happen? How long donations I guess? That
happened? I should have realized I didn't realize we had so many
50s That was really, really nice to see though. Nice to see. ISOs
and to show ISOs Okay, go. Oh, I have three let's lean into love.
Nice Christmas message. Yeah, are you Oh, you sound
underwhelmed? Totally. Okay, second one,
Unknown: but it's true.
John C Dvorak: That's a good one for some other day.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, this one may just change your mind about
my ISO offerings.
John C Dvorak: Why on earth does this stuff make the news? Cool.
I like that one. I don't think it's I think I've got the one.
Well of course you do. But I have a bunch of them so we can
try a few. Let's try to start with Festivus
Adam Curry: let's try them on for size.
Unknown: Oh Festivus for the rest of us.
Adam Curry: Okay, yeah, that's decent.
John C Dvorak: Then well let's go to in the clear we're pretty
much in the clear.
Adam Curry: I mean, they're all chopped off they're not good.
The chopped off at the end.
John C Dvorak: A Nutcracker Nutcracker slash Nutcracker.
Adam Curry: Okay, you got me on that one.
John C Dvorak: Okay, now you got two ones that are gonna win.
Now. It could be this one. Let's start with Merry Christmas to
Okay. Merry Christmas. Everyone knows like Dracula saying Merry
Christmas. But then I'll just go to the cut to the chase after
Adam Curry: boring us. Yeah, with the crap ones. Just get to
the good one.
John C Dvorak: It's gonna be this tomorrow's Christmas and I
don't know how we can't use this one which is Merry Christmas
one.
Unknown: Merry Christmas
John C Dvorak: yeah clear to the point not chopped off
Adam Curry: what I would actually do is I mean I'm
thinking you could also do a combo Merry Christmas
Unknown: slash Nutcracker
John C Dvorak: Come on Come you want to add a little? Yeah okay,
Adam Curry: I think slash nutcrackers Best Buy no Mike
come on man You can't beat that now it's time for
John C Dvorak: GCD All right, which is the shortest? Actually
with the shortest is that one I want to just play as a as a
throw away. So I got to today okay, one's only eight seconds.
And um, you want the shortest. We could start doing ones like
this. Stalin
Unknown: returns with his annual segment asking people to share
with their good news. They
got a new cat and they learned how
Adam Curry: to read. Hopefully you have another one. That was
good. That was good. The
John C Dvorak: new cat and I learned how to read. Very good
Adam Curry: news. Almost perfect. But instead we'll play
what is this man and pony? Man and pony. Is this something from
Mexico from Tijuana? No, no, it's
John C Dvorak: not what you're thinking. Finally
Unknown: tonight, it is never too late for your holiday wish
to come through. Take a look. Mr. Berg is 100 years young and
always wanted a pony for Christmas. He lives at a senior
living location in Yuba City. And as you see here, they teamed
up with Blue Zones project to make his dream come true. Oh,
and as you see here, he was all smiles when he was finally able
to pet that cute pony. Something that he had wished for when he
was a kid.
I had to keep thinking that I wrote a letter to Santa Claus 90
years ago and never got my pony. But this time I got it. So don't
give up hope and keep wishing Santa Claus eventually come
through.
Yes, he will. Mr. Verse advice to children is to not be
surprised if you don't get what you want immediately. But keep
wishing and believing. And eventually as you heard him say
it might indeed come through
Adam Curry: Ah good one John. That put me in the Christmas
John C Dvorak: spirit. That should ever by the way anyone
out there that starts saying stuff like 100 years young.
Yeah, should be shot.
Unknown: A good news story from JCD happy vibes for you and me
and we all feel beds now. He's done his bit to the back to
reality. That's turning to shit
Adam Curry: on everybody. That is our show. That's it for the
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley. My name is John
C. Dvorak mine is
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John C Dvorak: And Merry Christmas to you and all yours
and all the ships at sea and boots on the ground and boots on
the ground and beat in the air until
Adam Curry: we meet again on Thursday. Merry Christmas. Adios
mofos Oui oui. and such. Oh, that's right. Thank you Jessie
Coy and l Nelson. And Bill mountain a for the show makes us
very Christmassy boys very Christmassy.
Unknown: What we have to do though, is to convince them that
we are not easily pushed around in a cage now the agreement will
be unenforceable as we go around
they ran out of money a build up in that arm just to remind the
normal job we're gonna make the right where
they are coming for us. To them. We are the infidels. My
resolution airstrikes, bombed them, bomb them, keep bombing
them, bomb them again and again. on this
joyous occasion, I want to wish all of you a very Merry
Christmas. The
twinkle of a child's eye the joy of a grandmother's laughter the
love and the hearts of mothers and fathers for their children.
We came, we saw he died. didn't have anything to do with your
visit. I'm sure. I
have two words for you. Predator drones
you will never see it coming. Every
nation in every region now has a decision to make Either you are
with us where you are with the terrorists the decision of one
man to launch a wholly unjustified and brutal invasion
of Iraq I mean over Ukraine correct anyway.
Well, we should have kept the low when we got out and you
know, it's very interesting had we taken the lead you wouldn't
have ISIS because they fuel themselves with the oil that's
where they got the money. So you believe we can go in and take
the oil we should have taken the
oil when I searched John McCain on YouTube the biggest thing
that comes up is using bom bom bom bom, bom Moran 744,000 hits
in case you haven't checked it recently. Are you proud or
embarrassed of that?
I'm proud look,
when I'm in the company of veterans which I was and one of
them says to me when are you going to send a message to Iran
and we're joking around I'm gonna joke around and if someone
doesn't like it my advice to them is to lighten up
John C Dvorak: by your call to have Hooton be assassinated Do
you still stand
Unknown: by hope you'll be taken out one way or the other I don't
care how they take him out.
How dare you watch the Huskies no
guys shall open your eyes because standard by big pharma
business it's not about your health normal loss because
Navigators are horrible six wants to sign
up my brother, my sister just to make you more money
for a horse to get vaccine funds to score down on
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President Kennedy said about golf. He said we're going you
know why? Because when we choose to postpone No, let's not
postpone and get out of the rain. God bless you all. Thank
you. He's crying took on Putin in terms of Iraq. I mean, excuse
me in terms of what was going on in Ukraine. The pressure he
looked at President acclamation voter fraud was detecting the
right people at bat and kept sundry occurring creepy robot
leg down the swamp is really the I'm gonna give you the whole
load today that watch the hair cut back up again, shoot it over
to pressure.
Why not include members of the FBI
and transition team as part of this summer?
We're gonna have to see who the next administration is because
we won and those swing states and there was terrible things
that went on. So we're gonna have to see who the next
administration is. We
have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter
fraud organization in the history of American politics. So
I learned about roaches I learned about kids jumping on my
lap. Why attacks and why we're
getting nervous. Today 1000s of President Trump supporters
gathered in the nation's capitol. CBS has Jeff to gaze
was in the crowd, including
the recently pardoned former National Security Adviser
Michael Flynn. This is the President's loyal base when
you have constipation unlike hostels, a soft stool is easy to
pass
shorter rush over to pressure
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