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Morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry and
John C Dvorak: familiar Silicon Valley where everybody's happy
about Hunter Biden paying his taxes. I'm John C. Double X.
Adam Curry: Buzzkill. Yeah, yeah, everybody wishes he could
get hookers and blow and cool stuff and then pay the taxes.
The guy's got so much money
John C Dvorak: as me leave those taxes or not.
Adam Curry: I don't know if he paid his taxes or not.
John C Dvorak: That's Yes. No. Did you think you'd know what
yeah, that's all of Fuster making
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Is this a lead up to a three by
three.
John C Dvorak: But we do have a three by three regarding Hunter
Biden's taxes. That's true. Well,
Adam Curry: shall we do it?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, might as well.
Adam Curry: That was done for the three by three. Experiment
by Jesse. Sam. Once again, parents don't read from ABC, CBS
and NBC. Jcv brings the headlines from this morning
three by three from the big three networks. And today the
headlines are are Hunter Biden, I guess? What do we have?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Hunter Biden. They did this apology
tour by the network's have to cover up for HUD and Hunter
Biden as best they can. Oh, no, but they never give us any real
facts. It just kind of. It's weird, but listen to it. And by
the way, these all seem like they're produced by the same
White House. Same Hill and Knowlton White House is almost
identical in the way that in the order of presentation and the
way it ends except for the NBC was slightly different at the
end, but the rest of them are almost identical. It's called
the NBC NBC
Adam Curry: first in the three by three. Tonight,
Unknown: President Biden ignoring questions about the new
round of legal woes for his son. Well, a nine count federal
indictment on tax charges from Special Counsel David Weiss,
Hunter Biden facing the possibility of 17 years in
prison. The 56 page indictment saying he failed to pay at least
$1.4 million dollars in taxes from 2016 to 2019. spending
millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather
than paying his tax bills, including on drugs, escorts and
girlfriends, such as $683,000 on payments to various women, close
to $400,000 on clothes, and $188,000 on adult entertainment.
Adam Curry: Papa Joe please adopt me.
Unknown: Hunter Biden said he was battling addiction. His
attorney saying he paid back the taxes and the charges should not
have been brought wasn't Hunter Biden? This would not have
happened. It comes after Weiss's original plea deal for Hunter
Biden, which would have allowed him to avoid prison time fell
apart under a judge's scrutiny. The growing accusations against
Hunter Biden come as the GOP is investigating the finances of
the Biden family, including the President, with more Republicans
favoring the Impeachment Inquiry already underway.
John C Dvorak: I will support it when it comes to the floor
likely next week.
Unknown: President Biden has repeatedly denied that he spoke
to Hunter about his foreign business dealings
I have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone
else. Anything having to do with our businesses.
A former Hunter Biden partner told Congress President Biden
spoke to their business associates at least 20 times the
President was pressed about it this week.
I did not and especially a bunch of lies, no
Adam Curry: lies, lies there lying about it says lies. I did
not
John C Dvorak: always. All the reports mentioned girlfriends on
top of the hookers. It's
Adam Curry: interesting. This is this is an interesting approach.
I mean, this one yeah, he didn't pay his taxes and then he did
pay his taxes. So that's
John C Dvorak: the beginning of clear that up way if he No, no,
he said that
Adam Curry: he said he did pay his taxes and that I heard your
pace diminished axis.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's what he said. What then if he paid
his taxes, what's the fuss? Well, because it's
Adam Curry: fun to say hookers and girlfriends, I guess and and
hookers is fun. It's entertainment. What's there not
to like about a report like that?
John C Dvorak: Well, for one thing, it's not giving us the
story. Well, if he paid his taxes, why is he what's the
point of all this?
Adam Curry: Well, okay, how about this?
John C Dvorak: Did he pay it? Did he pay the full amount of
taxes the payment? Did he pay the penalties? What is it? This
is not a good story? It's not telling us anything, but what
Adam Curry: it's doing is it's distracting from the Impeachment
Inquiry, because all we hear is hookers, girlfriends, drugs.
Airbnbs. Whoo. Well,
John C Dvorak: when we go to ABC, we're here pretty much
almost an identical report, except for the little ditty at
the end, heading out
Unknown: of the White House today, President Biden ignoring
a barrage of questions about the new federal indictment.
John C Dvorak: Both these all these reports start the same
way. Biden's ignoring the questions. Why did these guys
get together in advance of putting these reports together?
They're structured.
Adam Curry: How about this? How about this for thought? This is
a California issue. Am I correct? I believe this is this
is this comes out of California this Yeah, yeah. Well, how about
that one, it's time to get rid of Joe time to bring in Gavin
Newsom.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's I'm not saying that's not the case.
What I'm talking about is the story itself. They're
identically structured, all three networks. Do their
reporters talk with each other? How does this happen? Oh,
please,
Adam Curry: please.
John C Dvorak: Let's go with you started over, over. Gee,
Adam Curry: I wonder. Do you think there's collusion? Do you
think they have the same effect? I
John C Dvorak: don't think there's collusion I think they
were presented with the with the structure by the White House and
they just follow the instructions heading
Unknown: out of the White House today. President Biden ignoring
a barrage of questions about the new federal indictment against
this son Hunter.
Nine count indictment.
Adam Curry: There's nothing like that. We need to do that more
often.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I love it.
Adam Curry: That's great. I love it
Unknown: six misdemeanors and three felony charges accusing
Hunter Biden of failing to pay $1.4 million in taxes. From 2016
to 2019. Special Counsel David Weiss insisting that during that
time, Biden was living an extravagant lifestyle spending
on drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury hotels,
rental properties, exotic cars, clothing, in short, everything
but his taxes. Biden allegedly shelling out more than $600,000
on various women, another $397,000 on clothes, and more
than $180,000 on adult entertainment. Why is the Trump
appointee kept on by Attorney General Merrick Garland to
continue the probe has been investigating 100 Biden for more
than five years. Through it all. The President standing squarely
behind his Son
or Son has done nothing wrong. I'm facing
Hunter Biden has since paid all this back taxes. Today his
attorney saying if hunters last name was anything other than
Biden, the charges would not have been brought, adding that
the Special Counsel bow to Republican pressure in a
recently recorded podcast heard Biden accusing Republicans of
attack,
Adam Curry: a podcast podcast, where's your tea man,
Unknown: but not have been brought adding that the Special
Counsel bow to Republican pressure in a recently recorded
podcast, Hunter Biden, Republicans have attacking him
to undermine his father's confidence and ability to
continue the campaign.
They're trying to destroy a presidency. And so it's not
about me and their most bass way. What they're trying to do
is they're trying to kill me knowing that it will be a pain
greater than my father could be able to handle.
Adam Curry: Wow, that was an old clip. That's from an old
interview that that Hunter thing at the end there.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, they brought it back. Curious how
that was dropped in the end of this report.
Adam Curry: Ah, okay. Right. This whatever happens next.
Okay. Yes, I think I can back you up here. How about this?
Whatever happens next to hunter? He will kill Joe Biden. Yes,
this is a setup. This is a setup to a View to a Kill.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's go to CBS. Now CBS which is the WoW
got a little bit have a little more on they. They didn't change
much structures basically the same. The exact same clip you
just heard from Hunter will be played again on CBS. The exact
same clip will be played on CBS. And in the CBS report. There's a
couple of elements that you might find missing, leaving the
Unknown: White House for campaign stops in California.
Adam Curry: There's my favorite again, President
Unknown: Biden ignored questions about his son's felony and
misdemeanor tax charges. That 56 page indictment details and
alleged a four year scheme to avoid paying at least 1.4
million in federal taxes. Hunter Biden is charged with nine
counts including tax evasion. and Special Counsel David Weiss
included I popping details about Biden's alleged spending 1.6
million in cash from ATM withdrawals 683,000 in payments
to various women, and 39,000 for home health cleaning and child
care. This is a serious indictment and Tom Dupree
Adam Curry: is a follow on second. What was all that? Okay,
John C Dvorak: there's the there's two differences right
there. One. Yeah. That besides the fact that he took out over a
million dollars in ATM, what does that have to do with
anything Wayman?
Adam Curry: How many? If you can only get $300 Max for eight
notes? It's 300. Most unless it's your own ATM, it's going to
be 300. Some even 200.
John C Dvorak: Well, you can do the calculation. You can't get
1,000,005 or whatever. She said
Adam Curry: the machine. Okay, how many machines Did he go to?
John C Dvorak: Well, there's another issue. That's great.
What was the point? So they get the ATM thing in there. And then
they also put in as though it's a bad thing. Child care. This
CVS report is totally different. I mean, the structure is
identical. They have the woman screaming at the beginning. At
the end time is exactly the same, except they add a couple
of there's a couple of twists one name day at this ATM
nonsense. And then this childcare thing what's that
supposed to be bad? May
Adam Curry: I add that this is the pixie girl This is Catherine
herridge This is the CIA CBS spokes hole. Why is she doing
this report?
Unknown: itself is a good ATM withdrawals 683,000 in payments
to various women and 39,000 for home health cleaning and Child
Care
Adam Curry: Home Health Home Health What is she saying Home
Health cleaning?
John C Dvorak: She said Home Health cleaning, home health
cleaning whatever that is.
Unknown: I'm gonna look it up and 39,000 for home health
cleaning and child care home health. Serious indictment Tom
Dupree is a former senior Justice Department official.
This indictment reads like an accounting ledger of fights and
the prosecutors spell out in gory painful detail exactly how
Hunter Biden was spending his money and it doesn't look good.
The indictment calls Hunter Biden a lobbyist consultant and
business person and alleges he earned millions for work with
the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma Okay,
Adam Curry: hold on a second. Could this all be to show that
whatever he did, he didn't send money. There was no 10% for the
big guy is that maybe the point of this? Like, oh, I took money
out of the ATM a million dollars but no 10% for the big guy. Look
at all the money he spent but no 10% for the big guy. Possibly
John C Dvorak: that's a stretch but it is it does get triggered
it in you so it must trigger in somebody on
Unknown: a Chinese energy firm CFC and other foreign
businesses. More charges could be possible. In a statement,
Hunter Biden's lawyer said based on the facts in the law. If
hunters last name was anything other than Biden, the charges
would not have been brought in a podcast recorded before the
indictment. Hunter Biden blamed Republicans for much of his
legal trouble. They're
trying to kill me and knowing that it will be a pain greater
than my father could be able to handle. And so therefore destroy
your presidency in that way.
Adam Curry: Oh, man. All right, this three by three. Do you mind
if I turn it into a four by four? By adding CNN at CNN, I
think this is the one Dana Bash,
Unknown: I want to bring in our team of political experts to
discuss and Danna bash, I'll
start with you. You just heard Hunter Biden before these
charges actually came out speak about the toll on him
and his dad, not just politically but personally. What
impact will this have on President Biden as he campaigns
for reelection?
Well, it's already having an impact, because it's very, very
difficult for the president for the President's reelection
campaign to try to navigate what is very, very, obviously
understandably personal for the President. And it's not just
about the the indictment and the allegations of criminal
allegations, both the new ones in California and also in
Delaware. It is about his addiction. And that was me, Wolf
listening to Hunter Biden say they're trying to kill me. He
doesn't mean that metaphorically. He means that
literally here we go because he's an addict. And he in his
argument has been that the reason he didn't pay his taxes
the reason he spent so much money over a million, maybe
almost a million and a half dollars on all of these untoward
things and more is because he was addicted to very horrible
drugs to crack. And so what he is saying There is they're
trying to get me to get me off the wagon, which would destroy
my father. And you know, there, of course, are political reasons
for this. And he did do things that were wrong, but from the
perspective of Hunter Biden from the perspective of his lawyers,
not so much that it deserves this kind of attention, and
that's why they say that if his name was anything other than
Biden, that he wouldn't be prosecuted to the degree that he
is right now after that plea deal fell apart in July,
Adam Curry: same script with a little addition. I have to
remind you, Danna bash, married to CIA guy, or a divorce from
CIA guy. This is your OP, this is Biden's going to need to
leave. All his son has to do doesn't actually have to die.
But But I think he's in on it. He has to get addicted again.
All that takes is another, you know, another treasure trove of
fresh pictures. And Biden will lose it and we've all been
forewarned about it. And incomes Big Mike 2024. For Gavin Newsom.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can't see anything else going on here
because this is too scripted. All three networks and then you
put CNN which was kind of a completely different approach
but the exact same thing re it was mashed up a little
differently. Exact same product given to the public, and it
would go something like he gets addicted again. The Republicans
get blamed because they're pricks
Adam Curry: and and they want him to fall off the wagon. Biden
John C Dvorak: has to quit because his of his family, you
know, because of his son. He's got his, you know, got
Adam Curry: to work out with his son. It's more important.
Family's more important. America important.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Because we know family's more important
than this. And that and so he looks like the good guy. Yeah.
Republicans look like the aihole. Yes, they did this. And
Gavin Newsom,
Adam Curry: incomes Gavin or whoever this
John C Dvorak: habit is? Well doing it the now a couple of
things. The CBS report never mentioned that he had paid his
taxes. That's the one thing they left out of the script. And I'm
not sure why it was in the script, because it doesn't help
things. It makes it muddy or whatever the case this
something's going on with this. And I have straight reporting on
this or seemingly so. I think it's from NTD. And
Adam Curry: you want to hit you want here NPR first.
John C Dvorak: And the MPAA. NPR might Yeah, because they'll
still be in the script. And the NTD guys aren't aren't. As far
as I know. They're not read into anything. They're not even taken
seriously by you know, of course.
Adam Curry: All right, let's do NPR.
Unknown: What specific charges is Hunter Biden facing with this
indictment?
Well, this is a nine count indictment. It was handed up by
a federal grand jury in the Central District of California.
The charges are related to tax years 2016 through 2019. Three
of the counts that Hunter Biden is facing here are felony tax
counts, one for tax evasion. Two for filing a false return. The
other six counts are misdemeanors, and those are for
failing to pay his taxes and failing to file his taxes. Okay,
so
this all relates to the 2016 through the 2019 time period.
What does the Special Counsel say that Hunter Biden was doing?
Well, prosecutors say that over four years, Hunter engaged in
its scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in taxes that he
owed. It also says that he evaded paying taxes for 2018.
Now, the indictment says that between 2016 and 2020, hunter
made more than $7 million in total gross and oil indictment
references business dealings in Ukraine. business dealings
related to Connections Romania and China really it says that
Hunter got another $1.2 million in financial support. But
prosecutors say that Hunter spent his money on drugs on
escorts and girlfriends on luxury hotels, exotic cars,
among other things. Prosecutors say In short, that 100 Biden
spent his money on his extravagant lifestyle not on his
taxes
Adam Curry: and so I guess they're saying that he willfully
didn't pay his taxes that's although he had the money to
okay okay. All right now from this NPR report, different
takeaway, not read in not part they have they have the script
but they took a different tack. They actually read the
indictment. The indictment says he earned $7 million which you
know, and he spent a mitt over a million on hookers and blow and
stuff. Okay, that still leaves a good five and a half million
dollars. So the it's ludicrous to say he spent his money on
hookers. He had another five and a half million. This it's
ridiculous knowing that seems unimportant. So the three by
three, including CNN, they are focusing they're focusing your
attention on the hookers don't look at the money from Ukraine
and China. That's not in their script. And they add in Jochen
died any moment or Tikkun, he has to retire because evil
Republicans will get Hunter back off the off the wagon. So this
is the truth. They buried the lede. $7 million from from China
and Ukraine. Hmm. What could be wrong with that? Yeah, that I
think is what's really going on. This is in di D. This is Hunter
Biden charges. Yeah,
Unknown: the president's son Hunter Biden is facing a nine
count indictment that includes three felony charges and six
misdemeanors. The indictment filed by Special Counsel David
Weiss on Thursday accuses the younger Biden of engaging in a
four year scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in federal
taxes from 2016 to 2019, while spending millions of dollars on
an extravagant lifestyle, according to the indictment, he
spent his money on drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury
hotels and rental properties, exotic cars, clothing and other
items of a personal nature. It says in short, everything but
his taxes. Hunters lavish spending was at its highest in
2018, reaching $1.8 million. His four year spending spree
included over $600,000 in payments to various women
$397,000 on clothes and accessories and more than
$180,000 and adult entertainment. Hunter Biden
admitted to a crack cocaine addiction in his recent memoir.
The indictment says he described his drug use in 2018 as 24 hours
a day smoking every 15 minutes seven days a week in 2021. He
spoke to CBS News about that experience. I
spent more time on my hands and knees, picking through rugs,
smoking anything that even remotely resembled crack
cocaine.
Special Counsel why says Hunter Biden made millions of dollars
from foreign entities including business dealings in Ukraine,
Romania and China and that in 2018, he continued to earn
handsomely and to quote spend wildly Oh,
Adam Curry: thank goodness I was about about to be very
disappointed in MTD. They put it in there. Thank you. NTD. For
again, bearing the lead but it's in there.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the lead you're right about during the
lead scored the second half. Hunter
Unknown: Biden's attorney Abbe Lowell said Thursday that if
hunters last name was anything other than Biden, the charges
would not have been brought low accuses Weiss of bowing to
Republican pressure hunters business dealings are at the
center of a house.
Adam Curry: I got. So part of the script is if his name was
anything, anything other than Biden, no charges would have
been brought. What if his last name was Trump? Sorry, sorry,
Abby Lowell
Unknown: accused of bowing to Republicans pressure hunters
business dealings are at the center of a house probe into
President Biden's involvement in his son's foreign business
ventures. Republicans on Thursday released a resolution
to further their impeachment investigation of the elder
Biden. On Friday, some House members argued for fast tracking
the floor vote on the resolution. In light of the
recent indictment. Representative Jason Smith told
roll call these charges further confirmed the need for Congress
to move forward with an impeachment inquiry of Joe Biden
in order to uncover all the facts for the American people to
judge. House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer attributed
the new charges to the bravery of two IRS whistleblowers
bravery. Two agents, Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler
testified that the Department of Justice made decisions that
benefited the president's son. Comer said the agents put their
careers on the line to reveal misconduct and politicization
during the probe and that the DOJ got caught in its attempt to
shield the younger Biden. That's another lead
Adam Curry: that was buried everywhere else, of course.
John C Dvorak: And there's another thing that the right
wingers, the more vert newscasters have been bringing
up over and over, which is that this whole thing is, and I think
it's maybe suggested by the fact that if if he already paid his
taxes, which only two of the three by three reporters said
they already pay these taxes, this could go to court, just
linger, linger and prevent Biden from testifying against his
father and the Colmar committee. Because he's under this
indictment he can Do that he can't do this. He can't go. He
can't test away.
Adam Curry: But what Biden can't testify why? Because
John C Dvorak: he had to have to plead the fifth on everything
because it would have because he's under, because he's right
now in the middle of a case against him. Well, can
Adam Curry: he just lie? Doesn't seem to be beyond him at
John C Dvorak: all. Well, I think he rather not be grilled.
Seems like a weak personalities. Yeah. The idea is to keep him
out of the out of the comer committee, investigate or then
the whole impeachment thing. Keep him away? As far away as
you can get him to California. Yeah. Take a long time on this
case. Until passed the election. And then
Adam Curry: so California is friendly fire in this case in
this Yeah. And then
John C Dvorak: you end up with the and then at the end of the
day, they say, Oh, well, you already paid your taxes. This
shouldn't have been forgotten in the first place. Dismiss go
home, and have a nice day and
Adam Curry: then get hooked. And we'll remove your dad later.
Yeah. I have one. Maybe this
John C Dvorak: is too this is just as good as this is
obviously a scheme.
Adam Curry: You mean. Are you telling me that I mean, three
networks are no good. I'm shocked that David Axelrod on
CNN, let me see if this is a political angle. We'll see if
there's anything in this. David
Unknown: Axelrod did the indictment as Danna just
pointed, pointed out, a really does paint a very damning
indictment of charges against Hunter Biden damning. How does
this reflect on the President of the United States? Just
Adam Curry: great look,
Unknown: it does paint a portrait and a lot of it look
known already, Wolf, both through other legal filings and
what Hunter Biden has said himself, the story of his
addiction and some of the activities that flowed from it
are very well known. But it's important to note that it is
about Hunter Biden, it's not about Joe Biden. There are a lot
of people in this country who have children who have fallen to
addiction and, and despite years of effort, there's been no
success. Why the life
Adam Curry: why the laughs He laughs He laughs Oh, I missed
that. Yeah,
Unknown: in this country who have children who have fallen to
addiction and, and despite two years of effort,
Adam Curry: despite years of effort, well, that was a subtle
John C Dvorak: one, I wouldn't call
Unknown: it there's been no successful in linking Biden to
any wrongdoing by Hunter Biden. So I think this is, as Hunter
described, as Danna described, this is an emotional burden for
the President. And we'll be going forward. I don't think I
think people can separate out, Joe from Hunter. I don't think
this issue is, is the political burden that perhaps some hope it
were for the president it's a very personal burn. Absolutely.
And I think that's serious.
Adam Curry: There it is. Hey, if I'm sorry. I mean, if you're
President of the United States, it sucks when your son, you
know, is back on drugs and, and back, you know, it's horrible,
because, you know, he's driving cool cars. He's got hookers. I
mean, it's horrible. If you can't handle that what came then
you can't be president. You can't handle a lot of stuff. The
I'm sick as a dog, I might want to point out
John C Dvorak: Oh, you sound fine. Until you just mentioned
it. Now. You can hear your congest Oh my
Adam Curry: god. And, and I have tracked a source. This is from
the indie meetup. I've gotten several emails. People are sick.
Remember, we had that one human resource? you puked.
John C Dvorak: All right, right. You had a puker we had a pure
Adam Curry: she'll never live that down. Now a couple of guys,
and I wanted a couple guys. I bet Well, I tested I got the Cuf
like don't test. Don't test. I didn't test it. It's Emily.
Emily from the meetup. I blame Emily. She was Typhoid Mary. Was
Emily the puker. No app. No one should know Emily. No, the puke
was little kid. No, Emily. She was in Nashville. She shows up
there cheap cheap. She even said so. Because people email me. I
got the cough to you. You're the germ barge. You are the germ
barge. You have to know Emily to know that this is funny.
John C Dvorak: She's probably loving it.
Adam Curry: I'm sure hope she is. Speaking of Nashville.
Everyone that we know in Nashville is safe. That was a
weird thing last night. You heard about the tornado that
just ripped through Nashville. Yeah. Oh man. I mean it in some
John C Dvorak: weird weather back there.
Adam Curry: Very weird. Well, that my my buddy Dave Jones.
He's an Alabama and he got a part of the storm. The hail was
so fierce in Alabama. It stripped paint off his house
John C Dvorak: that's hailed that's
Adam Curry: that's a real hail there, man. Oh man
John C Dvorak: he has car in the garage.
Adam Curry: Yeah, he has an old Ford 1930s Ford I don't think ah
John C Dvorak: you want it out it looks cool. How'd you do that
man it's looks nice looks good.
Adam Curry: Here's ABC on the latest just since we're talking
about oh by the way, Tina is sick now to the course. So no
Sunday school for us. This is the latest from ABC on on the
coop
Unknown: We turn now to the rising COVID 19 hospitalizations
with RSV and flu cases also taking up it comes as holiday
gatherings get into full swing ABCs Reena Roy
is here now with more good morning Reena
Ariel Good morning to you. Yeah, it is that time of year again,
right a season when we're all celebrating but also dealing
with all kinds of illnesses. We usually hear the numbers go up
in the fall and winter because of travel and holiday
gatherings. And this year, it is no different. The CDC says 15
states plus New York City are experiencing high or very high
levels of respiratory illness activity and that
Adam Curry: respiratory illness activity. What is that
Unknown: like a ping pong game of respiratory illness activity.
And that means doctors are seeing more and more people
coming in with things like fevers and a cough or sore
throat usually from COVID. The common cold or the flu RSV is
also on the rise and about half an increase in flu and COVID
cases. COVID hospitalizations have reached levels not seen
since February, particularly among babies, young children and
older adults. However, they are lower than rates seen at the
same time last year. Meanwhile, health officials are also
tracking a rising coachees breathless it's a variant called
che and why she's
John C Dvorak: hyperventilating her report she's so jacked about
Unknown: whoever they are lower than rates seen at the same time
last year. Meanwhile, health officials are also tracking a
rising COVID sub variant called J and one that's estimated to
make up more than 20% of cases around the country. At this
time. There is no evidence that Jn one is more severe than
previous variant no evidence, vaccines and treatments are no
that
Adam Curry: means when there's no evidence that means is it
there's going to be evidence. Yes, plenty of it just not now
Unknown: more severe than previous variants, tests,
vaccines and treatments are still expected to be effective.
And health officials getting your shots is the best thing you
can do. Now is actually a great time, because it often takes up
to two weeks. Oh
John C Dvorak: my god, again.
Adam Curry: Like this is only a one minute 30 shot. I gotta get
the vaccine promo in their
Unknown: a great time, because it often takes up to two weeks
to reach full protection after a dose. That is just Christmas.
Joe.
That's an important reminder.
Adam Curry: That's an important reminder. Yes. Oh man.
John C Dvorak: I have some important reminders from PBS on
COVID. And they did a little better job of selling the the
vaccine.
Unknown: Okay. Just over 15% of American adults have gotten the
latest COVID Booster Oh, demand for the vaccine has dropped
sharply since it was first introduced at the height of the
pandemic. That's partly because the government's response to
COVID 19 has been so politically charged. Woodruff spoke to
public health experts about that government response. It's part
of her ongoing series America at a crossroads.
In March of 2020 many Americans were united in their fear of the
new unknown virus as people grapple with the images of
overwhelmed hospitals and death abroad and in the US, hopefully
it won't be much longer
but public opinion quickly splintered as governors issued
stay at home orders to slow the spread of the virus
has to be a choice not a mandate
Adam Curry: it's a choice not a mandate. Oh, so they're bringing
this back. This is interesting PBS decides now to say that this
is a political thing.
John C Dvorak: They go in this is a whole 15 minutes I gave you
the beginning and again I'm going to tell you what happens.
So they go on and on and on and they break they actually redo
the entire pandemic. Fred the historic the history of edge
what happened here and there and everywhere in between and and
their concern is of course that people aren't taking things
seriously enough and a lot of it has to do the Republicans those
lousy Republican horrible and so red state bring it back around
so we make sure that they get the right promotions in to make
sure we get back on track. Well how we think about the vaccines.
It she goes from person to person to person and then and
then tops it off. And I I know you'll get it probably.
Adam Curry: And I guess Can I guess Trump doesn't end with
Trump. But no, no,
John C Dvorak: no, no, don't bring me here. Here's what the
question is. She's gonna bring on one expert after another who
knows the ropes. And then finally get to the one guy who's
going to tell it like it is and give us the fear mongering we
need
Adam Curry: Osterholm Of course. Nope. Oh, that's
John C Dvorak: good. That's a good guess. But it's not the
great guests and it's Hotep. Yep. And
Unknown: that had deadly consequences. According to Dr.
Peter Hotez of Baylor College of Medicine, he researched the
human cost of the resistance to masks and vaccines. In his new
book, The deadly rise of anti science. The
John C Dvorak: big differential in deaths was very much on
states where people widely accepted vaccines and states
where people did not widely accept vaccine. My estimate is
that 200,000 Americans needlessly perished. Wow. He's
got no documentation for anything other than his his his
work, his his his book. And then he's got his book. Now. My
advice from the curry console, a dork consulting company, is Hey,
dude, comb your hair. It doesn't take a genius to comb your hair.
Are you married? To dates where people did not widely accept
vaccines. Once my estimate is that 200,000 Americans
needlessly perished because they refused COVID vaccines after
vaccines were widely available. A poll
Unknown: out this September showed 91% of Democratic voters
had received at least one dose of the COVID 19 vaccine,
compared with 66% of Republican voters and Democrats were far
more likely to get the latest booster. And multiple studies
show more Republican strongholds that resisted public health
measures. And vaccinations fared worse in terms of infection and
mortality rates.
John C Dvorak: All sets that's a lie, total lie.
Adam Curry: There's no evidence to that. It's a total
John C Dvorak: lie. So they're basically lying. But they're but
they're you have to consider their audience. They're not
lying to Republicans trying to get get Republicans off their
ass, go get a shot. They're not doing that. They're lying to the
Democrats to assuage them. Don't worry, you did the right thing.
Get another shot. Oh,
Adam Curry: I mean, there's a lot of this going on. I mean,
there's, there's Friends of the show in California, who were
banned from all social circles. I'm talking upper upper upper
class social circles, because they were not jabbed. And now
and now. Like, of course, you know, they're all back again.
Like, Oh, we didn't know silly us mopped. I mean, in the drop
and dead, a lot of them.
John C Dvorak: That's kind of the irony, I guess. So
Adam Curry: no, I was I was gonna do this later in the show.
But since we're on the Cuf train here, Bobby the opp have this
speech. It was like 40 minutes. And it was the he was the
clearest in his speech, which is why I even considered chopping
it up. And he blames everything on the CIA, which of course,
knowing his background is risky business. Everything he began he
blatantly he blames the origin of COVID on the CIA, the Met the
the creation of COVID on the CIA. I mean, it's it's mind
boggling what he had, and a lot of this is from his book, and
I'm sure most people haven't read it. The Fauci book, Fauci
book. But this is very succinct. And then he goes into the
lockdown strategy, and I just, I needed I need to get this out,
because it's so good. And I pick it up, because, you know, he
goes way back to, you know, the bio weapons treaties and how
that was halted under Nixon. And but and it was basically was
picked up by the CIA. They went, Oh, yeah, you put these over at
the Pentagon. We can we can manage the bio weapons. So we
picked it up when? In September of 2001.
Unknown: In 2001. In June, the CIA's sponsors the first of its
pandemic simulations. It simulates a biological attack on
Washington DC by Saddam Hussein. This is in June 2001. That
simulation got International. And a lot of the CIA people like
Judith Miller from the New York Times was promoting it going
around doing all the talk shows. It triggered two Senate
hearings, one by Joe Biden's committee And that hearing was
in September 2001. What happened in September 2001 911. So that
hearing was going on during 911. As soon as 911 happened, the
neo-cons which we're working on all this stuff that CIA, pulled
out the Patriot Act a 350 page statute from a shelf or had been
waiting for a while. And in one week said, we want to pass this
in a week, there's only one member of Congress who read it,
which was done a senator. And he went crazy. And said, You have
no idea that the end of American democracy if you do this, it
allows the CIA to spy on Americans. One of the things the
Patriot Act did is it did not get rid of the Geneva
Convention, or the bio weapons treaty, but it said no federal
official can be prosecuted for violating those two statutes. So
it reopened the bio weapons arms race globally.
Adam Curry: So a couple things we learn here now we understand
why Dennis Kucinich was with him in the beginning, and probably
the up ended, or RFK, Jr. starts, you know, targeting the
CIA and Cassina. Just like, dude, I'm out. I like life.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I'm taking a different angle on it. Okay. I
think consensus was there to brief him and make sure that he
was getting his message on track on behalf of the sea. On behalf
of aspects of the CIA. I'm with checks. Yeah. Is probably in a
schism of newbies, jerk Goffs, old timers.
Adam Curry: Binary roles, what do you call them? binaries non
binary. He's done.
John C Dvorak: Non binaries that got those guys feminine. Nobody
likes. Nobody, like nobody likes. Like, nobody likes them.
And so there's so so right now they're trying to do something
about it. They can't Kennedy's part of the scheme to do
something about it by drawing attention. And he says he's
going to reorg the CIS if he does, that means he's going to
reorg back back to the way it was in the 50s or 60s. Although
he had good old, good old
Adam Curry: days, old days, when they anyway, so now, so
John C Dvorak: yeah, because he's not an idiot. So he's not
really taking a risk. I love
Adam Curry: what he's doing here. And now he's going to take
it to Fort Dietrich.
Unknown: When the week after, when the Patriot Act was being
debated. And it was being held up by two senators. It was an
anthrax attack on the US Capitol. It was blamed on Saddam
Hussein, and I don't need consoles at sea. We were right
in the pandemic simulation, Saddam Hussein attacked us. And
we use that as a justification to go to war against Saddam
Hussein. And within two days, we passed the Patriot Act who got
the anthrax to Senate offices. Tom Dashiell and Patrick Lee,
the two senators who are blocking the Patriot Act. The
FBI did a one year investigation. They said this,
Anthrax was unique. It was Ames anthrax, and there's only one
place in the world to come from for Diedrich, the CIA lab.
Adam Curry: I love this. I mean, it's it's all the stuff we've
been saying. But he put it together in this one beautiful
speech. And now,
John C Dvorak: yes. And he's more likely to know more than we
do. We go on deep on theories. And by doing a lot of reading
and research, we have no inside information on any of this. We
have to make sure people realize that we're just we're just
reading. Yeah, doing what you know, nobody has time to do when
it's time for it. And he's got he's got people briefing him
he's a part of the system.
Adam Curry: Oh, have a system for sure. Asa
John C Dvorak: stasis. Yeah, he's got inside stuff that is we
can deduce. But he can no. So
Adam Curry: now 2001 This is where we bring in Fauci. So
Unknown: we went to war, we pass the Patriot Act, and immediately
started giving $2 billion a year to bio weapons development. The
Pentagon didn't want to do it because it was nervous about the
legality because it was a death penalty to violate the Geneva
Convention. Oh, you would have been committing a you know, a
war crime even if somebody told you it was okay. It wasn't. And
so they funneled it through Teatre and DARPA, They funneled
all of that money to NIH to Nia ID which became the primary
spear tip of bio weapons development. So Tony Fauci
became the bio weapons are in 2001. his budget went up by $2.2
billion. He was personally given a 68% raise from the military.
That's why he was the highest paid individual in the federal
government. So
Adam Curry: now now he goes through a whole bunch of stuff,
which I didn't clip about, you know how Fauci did that he the
money went through the CIA front company, which was that that
weird organization that funny enough, Malone came out of?
Yeah, it's like, he was involved in that. I forget what is it
called. But anyway, doesn't really matter because you
understand the premise. But here's where things went wrong,
because they didn't have this part of the plan set up. And bio
Unknown: weapons development always includes vaccine
development. Because unlike chemicals
Adam Curry: or eco health, that was the place eco health that
was the the front company and
Unknown: bio weapons development always includes vaccine
development. Because unlike chemical weapons, with bio
weapons, there's always blowback is called the boomerang effect.
If you give your enemy bubonic plague, your guy's gonna get it
first, too. They're gonna get it quickly. So the only way you can
deploy a bio weapons if you have already developed a vaccine, so
the race is to develop a vaccine simultaneously, weapons and then
you can deploy the bio weapons and your enemy will take a
couple of years to develop the vaccine. And you can inoculate
all of your team.
Adam Curry: So clearly, we didn't have those ready because
you know, the, the virus escaped I don't think it was a really a
truly weaponized virus, the more people died of fear of being,
you know, put on a ventilator. And old people die from flu. So
many of the numbers show was not it was about the same as as a
regular flu year. So it was just fun for him to connect that but
then, and this is the one that blew me away, because I had just
mentioned maybe two three weeks ago, but I felt that social
media was like when a big Milgram experiment. And then all
of a sudden, Bobby the opp continues with his CIA breeding
of the CIA takes it straight into MK Ultra, Operation
Paperclip, you know, all the things that are that were
conspiracy theories when we were talking about him 10 years ago.
And part of the reason Alex Jones has been thrown off the
media planet, although he seems to be coming back since this
Tucker interview, which is interesting. And I'm happy for
him. So then he brings in the Milgram experiments, you know,
Unknown: I have I know a lot about the CIA, I've gotten their
manuals, I paid over $1,000 Just get these manuals because you
know, their training manuals from MK Ultra, and they'll
Adam Curry: pay a grand where are these? eBay? Where can I get
these? That's worth it. Yeah,
Unknown: we'll publish them. H stands for mind control. MK
Niomi. On MK Dietrich, that all came out of 40s. We're going to
NIH, and 150 colleges around our country where they were funding
these studies. And if you look at what they do in these
simulations, they're using all of these techniques that they
developed in colleges, college laboratories, social scientists
and other scientists, medical scientists for years who were
studying, how do you control individual behavior, but also
mass behavior? How do you how do you induce mass psychosis? How
do you create Manchurian candidates? You know, how do you
do all these? All these colleges setting these and and how do
you? How do you impose centralized foreign control on
indigenous populations? I coming into a country by using
propaganda by using fear of bias, sowing chaos by destroying
relationships, destroying faith in institutions, driving people
apart and creating chaos. So they will invite in on authority
who will give them peace and safety? And all of them. All of
these Mind Control techniques are designed to accelerate that
process.
Adam Curry: Does that sound familiar to anybody? Perhaps?
Does that sound familiar? That's this propaganda and so fear, and
does that sound a bit like 2020? And then he explains the Milgram
experiment, but
Unknown: one of the most interesting experiments was
called the Milgram Milgram, and it was assigned to associate
scientists at Yale sociologists called Stanley Milgram, who was
a who was part of the MK Ultra program. And he was he conducted
this experiment where he where he recruited subjects from every
walk of American life If it were students or professors or
business people or blacks, whites, everybody from the New
Haven area, and he would put the subject in a chair at a table,
whether it was a dial in front of them, that they could
administer an electric shock to a person who is tied in the
chair, and the next room, who they told was tied in the chair,
but he was actually a confederate of Milgram, he was
an actor. And when they turn this dial up and administer this
oppose electric shock, they could hear the man in the other
room screaming, shouting, begging, struggling, pleading
with them crying, and most of the people who are participating
in this experiment, they had to stop a lot of work crying, and
telling the doctor the doctor was standing behind them saying,
Turn it up, turn it down, turn it higher, turn it down, turn it
even higher, turn it down, and 67% of them turned it up to 250
volts, where it was marked, potentially fatal.
Adam Curry: So this would be let me see Jimmy Kimmel let him die.
Don't let him come in. Die, Republicans die anti vaxxers
Die, die, but they needed one thing. They needed the man in
the lab coat, because that's how the Milgram experiment literally
worked. It's on YouTube, you can take a look at it. I put the
link in the show notes. You can see the guy has a lab coat and
when there's someone with a lab coat, think Anthony Fauci
John C Dvorak: who says, Why is Anthony Fauci ever wearing a lab
coat or anybody is on TV? By the way that they when I played
those clips of Judy Woodruff are doing the report with the Hotez?
What did you think he's wearing
Adam Curry: lab coat? Yep. So 67% was willing to fry their
fellow Americans, which my dear friends, producers and trolls,
leaves an exact beautiful 33%. That's you 33%
Unknown: of the people got up and walked out. And what Milgram
said, The if you for 67% of people, if you have an authority
figure, and has I'm an amateur of legitimacy, like a doctor's
title, that 67% of people will take his orders, even if it
means violating their most sacred values. They'll go
against everything they believe in. And to me, it occurred to me
many times during that 2020, we were all involved in this huge
Milgram experiment. And that Anthony Fauci was, you know, Dr.
Milgram telling us you can violate the Constitution, you
can censor speech, you can close churches, you can shut
businesses, you can bend jury trials, and you can, you know,
tell people what they can and can't do and you can gaslight
them and marginalize them and vilify them and, and you know,
that no cruelty is too great.
Adam Curry: Hope everyone feels good. And and we also finally
understand the magic number. We are the magic number 33. That's
the magic. The magic number three, sadly, we still have to
pay our taxes. But otherwise, that's it. That's why we exist.
That is our fate in life. 3%
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Key key code and code, My Friend Code
big code for we don't know what? Well, that brings me to this
continuation of what's going on in that regard. And that has to
do with the one day dictator Donald
Adam Curry: Trump. Oh, yes. Just for one day.
John C Dvorak: And by the way, I was watching some news coverage
this morning. And then Juan Williams was on Fox where he
said and Donald Trump said he's going to be the dictator from
day one, though.
Adam Curry: That's wrong. Juan Juan Williams, I thought he was
kicked off of Fox back.
John C Dvorak: I guess it brought him on, he said and he
said that it was corrected by one of the other panelists said
only for one day, so yeah, okay.
Adam Curry: He's a propagandist. He's great. This is this is
John C Dvorak: the this is the way this is going to be played.
Because it's actually incredible to me, but Jim Acosta has a show
on CNN.
Adam Curry: You're kidding. Really. We've never seen this
show. It is a goldmine.
John C Dvorak: It's probably the worst thing that you've ever
seen, because Jim Acosta has no personality whatsoever. He sits
there stone faced, and he just kind of reads from the prompter.
He's he's really an reporter who shouldn't be in the field. He is
not a host. He's no good, but they have him on there and which
really makes me wonder what discovery who owns CNN now at
which is major shareholders, John Malone is one right winger.
Adam Curry: This this guy, Jim Acosta. He's one of the last few
brand names they have.
John C Dvorak: What the brand name and he's sure no good as a
host of saying, you
Adam Curry: know, from a media perspective, that's all the he's
recognizable. Let's put it that way. You can
John C Dvorak: find people. So,
Adam Curry: hey, they kicked out Don Lemon, they kicked out the
Cuomo kid. They kicked everybody out.
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't understand how they didn't kick
this guy out. So this but this, this is the beginning of his
show. It's called CNN news hour or something. And this is the
very beginning. And let's see, I got these are four short clips.
And they're just their jaw droppers.
Unknown: You're live in the CNN Newsroom. I'm Jim Acosta in
Washington. We begin this hour with perhaps the harshest
warning yet. From President Biden about his likely
Republican rival for the White House. The President told a
fundraiser in California late last night that Donald Trump
would destroy American democracy if he somehow wins back the Oval
Office. Biden said to the crowd quote, The greatest threat Trump
poses is to our democracy. The President went on to slam
Trump's role in the January's six attack on US Capitol saying,
quote, it's despicable. Simply despicable Biden also referred
to Trump's comments on Fox earlier this week, when the
former President was asked whether he wants to become an
American dictator. Here's what Trump told Fox.
John C Dvorak: Under no circumstances, you are promising
America tonight. You would never abuse power as retribution
against anybody except for day one. Except
Unknown: he's going crazy. Except for day one, meaning I
want to close the border. And I want to drill
John C Dvorak: that's not that's, that's not.
Unknown: Now if there was any doubt about what Trump meant the
host Sean Hannity gave him a few chances to step back from those
extreme words, but Trump did not love this
guy. He says you're not going to be a dictator. Yeah.
I said, No, no, no. Other than day one.
We're closing the border. And we're drilling drilling drilling
after that I'm not. As we've noted on this program for weeks,
Trump has repeatedly promised to seek vengeance against his
political enemies, praising the leaders of China and North Korea
and also promising to vastly expand presidential powers
leading to headlines like these the Atlantic writing that Trump
isn't bluffing and will follow through on his threats,
including investigating the price for treason, mass roundups
and detention centers for undocumented immigrants.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, he didn't say any of that. He
didn't say any of that. Was there more to the Hannity show
that we missed? No, no, he didn't say any of that he
John C Dvorak: did in the past Sunday time in the past and said
this is putting it all together. Horrible package now. Now. The
second clip here is a discussion of one of the big meetups that
Biden had in LA where he made these comments. And it's funny,
again, I'll bring it up all the time. They keep telling us that
Trump's full of it he says one thing he does another he's a
liar. He's a liar, liar, but yet we take him very seriously when
he says he's going to be a dictator for one day.
Adam Curry: This is your thing. I like it a lot. This is
perfect. He's a liar. He's
John C Dvorak: make up your mind except
Adam Curry: when he says stuff that we want you to believe he's
not a liar. So
John C Dvorak: this is kind of interesting that this clip is
too long, I'm sorry for that is not over the time limit, which
is two minutes. So if anyone out there wants to know the time
limit, yes. But it's long because it takes forever to get
to the point that I want to I wanted to make which is that
Hollywood's a bunch of douche bags led by famous douchebags in
Unknown: Athens Kevin Liptak is live in Los Angeles for us as
the President is in the midst of a weekend fundraising trip in
California. Kevin, I imagine the President's words must have
gotten folks by surprise at that fundraiser. What more is he
saying? Yeah,
he is really ramping up these warnings about what President
Trump might do if he returns to office and certainly the very
start nothing less than the future of American democracy is
at stake, according to President Biden. Now when it comes to that
remark that Trump made about being a dictator, President
Biden deployed some rueful humor saying thank God only one day
but certainly later on really underscoring the potential for
another Trump presidency is no laughing matter telling these
democratic donors literally, I believe the future of American
democracy is at stake the greatest threat Trump poses to
our democracy because if we lost that, we lose everything. And
you really are starting to see President Biden really honing
his attacks on Trump fine tuning his arguments at these
fundraisers, these off camera fundraisers, giving him a chance
to sort of test some material will be a central argument of
his reelection campaign next year. And certainly there are
some Democrats who want President Biden to be more
forceful about President Trump to make this our Clement
publicly and when you talk to campaign aides, they do say that
that moment is coming that President Biden will begin to
sharpen his rhetoric, but they want to wait until they're sure
that Americans are paying attention. They don't want this
falling on deaf ears. And you can imagine that these arguments
will make their way into television ads, digital ads, of
course, that will cost a lot of money. And that is why President
Biden is out here in Los Angeles, raising money at two
important fundraisers one last night with some Hollywood
heavyweights. You know, I was talking to Jeffrey Katzenberg,
he's the co chair of the Biden campaign, a movie mogul, he said
this 36 hours will be the most successful when it comes to
campaign fundraising for President Biden since he
launched his campaign in the spring Jim
Adam Curry: goodness, Katzenberg, Katzenberg Berg
John C Dvorak: and you can be sure Rob Reiner was there. Oh,
yeah. Hey, Katzenberg.
Adam Curry: How's that? What was that short form video thing that
he poured $2 billion into and failed out of the gate? What was
that thing called?
John C Dvorak: I can't remember. Remember that. I remember it. It
was
Adam Curry: trolls. What was that? It was a turd. It was a
big turd. Because he's so smart. You know,
John C Dvorak: the Jim Acosta show and CNN, we have to balance
you know what you want to do. When you do these kinds of
reports. You're the host. You bring somebody in and gives you
a report is on one side. So normally what you do is you
bring somebody in with maybe a different perspective.
Adam Curry: Now, why did we do that? Oh, by the way the trolls
want us to mention Yes, we know Norman Lear died. be asked. We
were the ones that told you about the Hollywood foundation.
Yes, we know. We didn't mention it. Last show was big over so
no,
John C Dvorak: we didn't miss it. Norman Lear die. What? Okay.
We mentioned it. He was I looked at my when I talked to me about
it. I said, you know, they've obviously run out of
Adrenochrome down in LA quibi. Queen. I mean, that's what
Biden's down there for he's trying to get some and they
can't find any quibi
Adam Curry: I think quibi quibus quibi. That's short form. Tube
tarde. tarde to quibi quibus I don't know Yeah. Anyway, yes.
Audrina Chrome. Yes, that's why Biden's there. Well, it hasn't.
It hasn't helped. Well, so we got
John C Dvorak: so we got the opportunity now to bring
somebody in to give us some perspective. Okay, here we go.
All right.
Unknown: Kevin Liptak reporting from LA forest. Kevin, thank you
very much. Let's continue the conversation right now. Joining
me now is the niece of former President Trump, Mary Trump.
Mary, great to have you back on the program. Really appreciate
your time. You heard what
Adam Curry: I know you're so busy doing. Appreciate your
time.
Unknown: The President was saying last night at this
fundraiser in California seizing on what Donald Trump has been
talking about recently, and I just wanted to get your reaction
to what Trump was saying on Fox the other night, a dictator but
only on day one. What was your reaction when you heard that
we need to take Donald at His Word? To a certain point. We can
ignore the second half of that statement. Dictor taters last I
checked, don't stop being dictators. And he has every
intention of destroying American democracy. And we need to be
clear why it's entirely for his own benefit. Nothing about this
is ideological. So in that context, it was it was really
heartening to hear President Biden be so direct about what's
facing this country, I agree that it is too early to assume
that people are paying attention. And we don't want
that argument to get normalized, which is been part of the
problem the last seven years, almost everything Donald does
seems to be normalized. But we've seen what he's done in the
past. And I think what he's starting to do now is push the
envelope and get people familiar with the concept of his
dictatorial tendencies, so that they just write it off the way
they've written off all of his other egregious anti democratic
behavior. Oh,
Adam Curry: she forgot to mention five d chess. I mean,
yes, this is so smart. He's, he said, Build the wall and drill
drill drill. But this is really about him being a dictator for
himself. Because when you destroy America, it's great for
business.
John C Dvorak: You know, the funny thing is, is that, do any
of these people have any sense of how the American system
works? It's gotten three, it's balanced. It does not work where
some guy can just waltz in and but we are describing it and
just decide to be the dictator. We
Adam Curry: saw this because Trump certainly didn't deliver
on all the things he said he would. And what these people are
doing is projecting because they know that they are the ones who
will hang. That's what's going on. Oh, is this guy comes in,
we're in trouble. I mean, not marry Trump. I mean, they'll
marry
John C Dvorak: Trump says Stage, but the fact that she's even Who
is she? I mean, she's just some Brando. But let's, when
Adam Curry: you have a podcast, a cable podcast, you might as
well bring in the randos.
John C Dvorak: So you have a so let's let her finish up with her
doubling down on this whole thing. So we can see the real
logic at play here. And the insanity of these Democrats in
general,
Unknown: that leads me to this question, Marian, that is, I
mean, do you think Trump would stop on day one? I mean, to say
he would only be a dictator on the first day, I suppose if
you're the dictator on the first day, you could say, well,
tomorrow I'll be dictator to because you're the dictator at
that point.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's great logic, Jim. I
Unknown: mean, what do you think does you stop on day one,
every day, from then on, we'll be day one. Let's put it that
way. He has no intention of stopping. He knows why he needs
to get back into the White House. Those reasons won't
disappear on a day two or day 100. So we have to take this
threat incredibly seriously. And part of the threat isn't just
Donald's rhetoric. It's the reception that rhetoric
receives, we heard the laughing and the cheering. In that
audience. We hear what his sycophants and enablers like
Sean Hannity and like practically every single elected
member in Congress, who is Republican is willing to put up
with is willing to allow and is willing to support
Adam Curry: sycophants. That's interesting. That's a talking
point. I'll get to it in a minute. Okay, Why is Trump
saying drill drill drill the ran on the wall in 2016. I think
it's weak. Honestly, I think it's weak. I think by now people
have just figured out that it doesn't have as much to do with
a wall as it does with parole. And I'll give that to Lindy Hop,
parole, catch and release etc. I mean, it's the policy, it's not
the wall. It's the policy, the policy and and that the agency
that's in charge of it just follows up. The oil oil thing is
a direct drill drill drill thing, sorry, is a direct
counter to Nikki Haley. I had dinner with the oil baron. As
promised. Ah, here we go. The Texas oil baron who has actually
met with Nikki Haley, and has shown her around the oil fields.
She had good questions. And she according to him, she is big oil
all the way. Why are you doing this? I said, he said I need a
backup plan. Understandable.
John C Dvorak: And by the way, way, I got confused with the way
you put that. Oh, if Claudia she asked him he asked her what? No.
Why are you doing that you
Adam Curry: asked him was? That was me asking him why are you
asking him? Yes. Why is he doing what? Why are you pandering to
Nikki Haley? Why are you getting her? I don't want to be fair. I
don't know. I don't know if he supported financially, but
certainly his other billionaire buddy did.
John C Dvorak: A lot of billionaires are in on Nikki
Haley. And he's also
Adam Curry: an oil guy, the Hatter out he had a big
fundraiser out at the ranch. His friend. So my friend the oil
baron says we need a backup plan in case something happens to
Trump. Because he knows that Trump is is all in on Big Oil in
drilling etc. And I think that's why Trump is doubling down drill
drill drill drill drill oil, guys, don't worry, I got you
covered yet.
John C Dvorak: Don't give her any more money. Yes,
Adam Curry: exactly. I got you covered. It's all going to be
good. Now. He didn't mention something else. He is very
confused and very mad at something you brought up. The
methane leaks. He says the methane leaks are bull crap.
They send you a report. And it's just an algo. He said they run
an algorithm. We have no methane leaks. And if we hadn't, we'd
love to know exactly where they are. Because we'd like to plug
those up. He says they just send them a report that has
algorithms and says Well, according to our algorithm, you
have methane leaks, and here's what you have to pay in fines.
Oh, interesting. And then he said, Where does the money go?
This is this is the face you're saying? Well, this is also
Andrew Horowitz this thing where does the money Oh is always
wondering where the where does the money go? And I said, Well,
here's what I know how it works in the finance industry. What
happens? And I said this is a tip is a tip for you. What you
do is you say oh, okay, well, how because the bank guys, they
do these deals with the Department of the Treasury. So I
don't know how this works for the Department of Energy. They
do a deal. I say, Well, what we'll do is we'll give all this
money this, you know, so it's let's say it's $25 million in
fines. We'll give that to these nonprofits. They see and then
the Treasury for banks by in this case do II I guess would
say, Okay, give that to those guys and what happens you just
gave $25 million to nonprofits you get the write that off of
your taxes. Nice. That's how it typically works. So anyway, the
the oil guy, oil baron, my friend will keep me updated on
progress and he had one other thing for me. Which I want to
let you know. He goes hunting on King Ranch once a year. And he
comes home with I got to look it up with Neil guy. And I L G AI
nilgai. Have you heard of this animal?
John C Dvorak: No, it's like it. I
Adam Curry: have heard of auric it's not orange and you're in
Texas, not Oryx, but it is it is one of those antelope like
animals. He's he's gonna give us a whole bunch of nilgai meat
products now. Okay, good. So and I'll send some to you too, cuz I
know you're gonna love. It's just It's sad. He said, it's
beautiful. It's just like He says very similar to Oryx and,
and an antelope. So excited. And
John C Dvorak: it looks delicious. I've had that. So
what did he have any dispute with my analysis of the oil
loss, or the methane loss or anything, which I said, why, you
know, the refineries don't like this because if this happening,
then they're losing product. They're losing money.
Adam Curry: Not Well, no, he, not only does he agree with you,
he says it's not true. He says they're just sending him a
report that hasn't been renewed that okay, no, it's not true
bullcrap you please show me where the leak is. We'll go and
plug it. We'd love to know where that is.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, doesn't make sense. Yeah. I mean, you
run a refinery there's not I mean, there's a lot of horrible
product has gone here and there every which way. And you can
walk through a refinery right now and you won't smell
anything. There's no no smell of anything. And if you do smell
something, there's an issue that has to be taken care of
immediately.
Adam Curry: Of definitely that this oil baron. He's a
sweetheart i love this guy. This is he's going to be one for the
show for a long time.
John C Dvorak: No good. He straighten this out.
Adam Curry: He will definitely straighten this out. Especially
I got a I got a note from atomic rod Adams. And he's back and I
don't know what's happened, man. He's like, I love you guys. You
know, I know. I've been away for a while. He's been away for a
long time. He sent me a whole explainer. But he says I just
have one disagreement with you. Climate change is real. I'm
like, oh my god, they got to him. I think they got to atomic
rod. Something happened there. And he's all in on on manmade
climate change. Now he sent me I struck back I said dude, don't
do this to me. We'd love it. We love nuclear we're on your we're
on board with you. You don't have to spy on me with this
stuff. I want us to know that's very very rare very very real.
So I'm going to read through his his argumentation because we owe
him that because he's atomic rather than
John C Dvorak: getting your senator some counter material.
He's obviously not getting it. Now he
Adam Curry: has material but he said he answered me this
morning. So I haven't read through it because it's long
anyway. That was just surprised like, oh, man, it's like, you
know, well, maybe one door closes atomic rod oil baron. One
door opens up.
John C Dvorak: I will I want to do a quick Mia culpa ended
discuss just for one second. The testimony of the three college
presidents. Yes, the MIA culpa, is I said Penn State at least
once
Adam Curry: Gosh, people were like, tell John is UPenn I'm
like, I'm not as assistant.
John C Dvorak: Why do people I got a couple notes. How but
Adam Curry: most people think that I am your intern. And
John C Dvorak: you bitched about this constantly. We don't need
to hear it again.
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, I do stop is John at the Vortech dot.
You know what the answer when I say email him, he never answers.
Yeah, well, there you go.
John C Dvorak: I answer mostly I mostly answered but they didn't
answer to the dame that word poet Baronet test of the rhyming
line sent an email she happens to be a an executive at the
professional staff at Berkeley. Oh, and she's she called me out
on my whole analysis about the three presidents and nobody else
has brought any of what I'm going to read from her up at
all. And I realized this is exactly right. She says that you
should go with our comms razor. There was no conspiracy. The
presidents of Harvard, Penn UPenn and MIT were stymied by
their own wokeness how one title nine laws as a professional
staff in higher education, the presidents of Harvard and the
rest of Have you all received hours long training you've read,
you don't take these trainings I have for various things,
harassment, whatever. But I guess these people will take
training on Title Nine. And what constitutes harassment and
bullying according to Title Nine, these trainings make it
very clear that it would be considered harassment behavior
must be quote, pervasive, severe and persistent. Not a single
instance, a single instance may not be enough to constitute
harassment. It has to be a one single event or two pervasive
and persistent. So if a stupid freshman yells genocide to Jews
in an auditorium class and runs out the door that will be
written off as a young kid being stupid. They wish he goes on and
on with this, just describing Title Nine as being there were
caught up in it, and they were trying to beat around the bush
about context. And I retorted with her, I said, what about
this, if these women were so handcuffed? That's what it seems
like they were handcuffed by Title Nine because they could
get sued for not following Title Nine, which was presented and
produced by our government, they should have said I on this
onstage, I can answer a yes or no question like that, because
I'm, I'm handcuffed by Title Nine, something you Congress has
approved and made me abide by? Well, first of all it right back
at him. Okay.
Adam Curry: Couple things. It is now known that the UPenn Lady
and the Harvard lady not the MIT lady had $1,500 An hour lawyers
prepping them for two days. So that's so yeah, that comes back
to Title Nine. But that's where all that went wrong. They were
loitered up, and they were reading their scripts. And
that's why those two were, were their answers were similar. I
think the MIT lady went, Oh, that's good.
John C Dvorak: I'll jump in on it. Lady was said nothing. But
Adam Curry: here's so I wanted to get an alternative opinion
from liberal intellectual elites. Because it's much more
fun to figure out what the other side of thinking is thinking.
And blow and behold, my hatless and twice a week did not
disappoint. Of course, I'm talking about pivot with the
illustrious Kara Swisher, who has a mouth on her Oh, my God,
she drops more F bombs than I ever have. But that's not who
we're talking about today. Today, it is Prof. G. You know
him as the professor from New York University professor in
marketing. who is a Jew, I'm sorry, who happens to be Jewish.
And he had a very fun, no agenda, like take on these
presidents. In particular. Now he's talking about gay president
gay of Harvard.
Unknown: Oh, I thought it was embarrassing for them. They came
across as weak and overlawyered. They were clearly coached to try
and seem empathetic but say nothing. New SmartKey. And, and
I just want to read a statement that President gay put out. She
said, like many of you I've watched in pain and horror, the
events unfolding triggered by callous and depraved actions. We
have been here before too many times. And that familiarity is
part of the heartbreak and outrage of this moment, even as
a global fight against pandemic has forged new bonds and
inspired new acts of profound generosity. We are confronted
again by old hatreds, and the enduring legacies of racism and
inequality. So she put it that's a powerful statement. It's
accurate. But she was writing about George Floyd or the murder
of George Floyd. And that is these presidents have in
unequip? He
Adam Curry: did. He didn't know agenda switcheroo. This was a
good one. Yes, Lloyd.
Unknown: And that is, these presidents have an unequivocal
and strong and resolute about other outrageous things that
have happened and and here's here's the problem. It's not the
issue of whether it's not around whether this is hate speech or
free speech. That's not the issue here in my view, or what's
causing the controversy? Because I would argue that, you know,
that if you're a group of students are walking in a march
and they start saying from the river to the sea, I'm not sure.
That doesn't qualify as free speech. Now, we can have an
argument over that. But the problem here is the
inconsistency.
Adam Curry: There you go. I thought that was quite good. I
wanted to give him his props on that. That was that was a good
switcheroo.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but every clock is right twice a day, but
that's exactly
Adam Curry: what people are seeing. We're seeing they're
seeing the inconsistency. Saying, and it's, it's it's
beautiful because This is drawing light. This is not being
we expected. Well, we hoped, I guess academia higher education
would eventually crumble under, you know, maybe the student
loans or something had to happen. But now, they screwed
themselves. It's beautiful to watch and donors are pulling out
and people are waking up to like, what do you do punchy as
index.
John C Dvorak: And this also takes forever for the public to
figure out what's yours
Adam Curry: sometimes years. And To wit, this is a report from
Turkish radio and television if you if you want to get the
Palestinian slant on everything, this is where you go. They did.
This is a quickie report of the Pope Palace Pro, the pro
Palestine demonstrators marching on Wall Street. The signs were
professional, they were all socialist party, world Workers
Party, anarchy flags, etc.
Unknown: Over the last couple of weeks, I've attended many pro
Palestine demonstrations throughout the United States.
But I can tell you this one in downtown Manhattan today is the
largest crowd I've seen. And they're marching right now
towards Wall Street. And their goal is to shut it down. Their
goal is to send a message from New York, all the way to Gaza,
where downtown Manhattan today and we're marching towards Wall
Street, what's the significance of that
1000s People here marching towards last year, because we
know that it's the center of financial capital, the center of
us capitalism, which is the engine of this horrendous
genocide machine that has killed 20,000 Palestinians in just two
months. So
we have a large coalition of people here from all kinds of
different backgrounds and we also have Jewish people here
demonstrating for Palestine.
Adam Curry: So the whole thing is against capitalism. It's
these are socialists and Marxists. They don't actually
care about Gaza. They see an opportunity and they're seizing
it. And of course it's not going to work but
John C Dvorak: well, it goes where it's worse than that.
Adam Curry: Oh, no.
John C Dvorak: Gambling so so. So we had one of our producers
who happens to be
Adam Curry: a happens to be what John a gorgeous Broadway
actress. Wow, you do get the good producers. Now. I get Emily
the germ barge.
John C Dvorak: She Well, she knows me I sent a clip from one
of these. Pre December December 8 was supposed to be this huge
protests around the country one day, walkouts left and right and
only place it happened was Wall Street and I guess the
Washington Post, but except for those two guys, there's nothing
going on but this guy gives a speech now it's very unfortunate
is very difficult. I ran it through Adobe made it 10 times
worse. Yeah. Now this guy's giving us kind of just give you
a tip a tip.
Adam Curry: That TRT report I tried it through Adobe sucked. I
ran it through the ones that I gave you the link to that it's
the open source love that guy. The vocal remover and isolation
which you would typically think is just to remove music or
background stuff. I'll have to try the next very good for
removing crowd noise and stuff. Well, this
John C Dvorak: is a deep problem is a dual problem echo and crowd
noise man is this. If it sucks, I mean I'm live. If you can't
hear you can't hear but this is a unbelievably interesting.
Couple of eclipses to destroy Israel clip.
Adam Curry: destroy Israel. Here we go. Israel
Unknown: is losing ground politically, diplomatically,
financially, is losing ground in every possible sphere of life,
we have become Biden's worst nightmare. Because now
that they have any every time they hold a press conference
every time they have to make one decision or another or anything
else is essential. Now, the question is, are those
protesters going to show up? What streets are they going to
disrupt? What chaos are they going to have these we finally
deal that final blow to finally destroy a race.
Adam Curry: Oh man, you so should have run that through the
vocal remover either way, the
John C Dvorak: idea is to just destroy Israel. And this is a
millennial thing. All the millennials including my they're
all us but the older millennials in particular, they're all in on
This idea of destroying Israel. Yes. Well, what what is the
point? I mean, what does that accomplish? Well, the second
part of this kind of explains what it accomplishes, if you
can, try to make it out, I'll explain what he said, If you
can't hear it, here we go.
Adam Curry: Here's what I did. While you were talking while the
clip was running. I pulled number two through my AI
machine. Hopefully this will be better. Oops, I need to open the
fader, of course, that hill. This is going this is going to
be Jim, there's going to be genius to
Unknown: the Palestinian people. Well, no army, no air force with
no navy was able to defeat Israel as a US. What is it
possible? What can we do? I know for a fact, I know for sure. I
feel that in my
goodness of our material conditions now.
That's when we defeat Israel in the US Empire, we will actually
have been able to know how to dismantle capitalism here in the
United States.
John C Dvorak: was better, right? It was Yeah. And so the
idea is this whole process is to get is to dismantle Americanism.
And Americans is just a straight up Marxist play. Yeah. And
everyone's buying into Oh, yeah, those poor Palestinians. It's
got nothing to do with the Palestinian. Oh, that's
Adam Curry: that is, that is the most racist genocidal thing you
can be is abuse those people for your own socialist Marxist
needs. That's that's what makes them worse.
John C Dvorak: So everybody supporting Palestine is really
supporting the death of the of America dollars. It was missing
from the guy speech was death to America, which I mentioned in
the newsletter. Yes. That's true to America where, you know,
that's what when you see the Palestinian protests, that's
what you're dealing with, but I got a kick out of the fact that
at the very beginning, he says we're Biden's worst nightmare.
Oh, yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Genocide, Joe? Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was
something I learned amidst all of this, about the boycott,
divest and sanction. The BDS movement thing is Boycott
Divestment Sanction. Thanks to this what it is. I was not aware
of certainly not in the state of Texas, that this goes beyond
just, you know, Roger Waters and, you know, some people yapan
there's actual laws that have been created for state
contracts. In
Unknown: much of the United States, there may be penalties
if you decide to boycott the State of Israel. 37 US states
have enacted some form of anti boycott divestment, sanctions or
BDS legislation. It typically requires parties signing
contracts with the state government not to engage in a
boycott of Israel. Even
to apply for such a contract. I had to sign first sign a pledge,
saying that I would not boycott Israel or not only Israel, get
this Israel or any territory it controls
it. There have been several ports across the United States
that have reached the most important question here does the
Constitution as a First Amendment forbids States federal
government from passing laws that target the anti BDS
movement? I want to thank all Texas for the support in Texas,
a federal court struck down rights the entirety of Texas law
after our client but here on Maui, I was asked to sign a
contract that asked her to promise Israel to promise Israel
that she wouldn't boycott the
state simply passed a new law that applies to companies
instead of individuals,
even when the laws allow for free speech and there needs to
be a social climate that allows folks to freely express their
views
the two months into heightened tensions and rhetoric
surrounding the Israel Hamas war and climate may not be now.
Adam Curry: I'm not sure about this is TR t so I don't know
about a law but that's interesting. The invalid
Realizer when that far anyway. Genocide Joe's representative at
the United Nations on the Security Council did not do
themselves any favor with a veto vote.
Unknown: The US veto in the UN Security Council was not
unexpected. Even the cries of outrage are now growing louder.
China's Permanent Representative to the UN Zanjan called the
decision hypocritical and self deceiving the Iranian foreign
minister warned there could be an uncontrollable explosion of
the situation in the Middle East. If America continues its
support the UEs deputy UN Ambassador Muhammad Abu Shahab
said the decision sends the wrong message to Palestinian
civilians for Amnesty International Secretary General
Agnes Callamard describes the US as action as a callous disregard
for civilian suffering. Doctors Without Borders said the US now
stands alone in costing against humanity
has the US is the one sending weapons and warships have been
surrounding Gaza for 20 years. The arms and rockets have been
manufactured in America, in Western countries, as they
support Israel to kill the youth, children, women and the
elderly. God is our Savior. When America vetoed the ceasefire,
the United Nations and everywhere else. This veto is
against the people who are dying in selling all day and all night
with American weapons.
The US veto has prevented a halt to Israel's brutal attack. The
cry for a ceasefire and now growing stronger as evidence of
genocide mounts against Israel. Yeah,
Adam Curry: there you go. Everybody hates America. Now.
Well done. Joe. Well done. I'm sure your base will love that.
Now we need to counter this myth, this message. This is no
good. So let's call Joe and Mika over there at MSNBC. And let's
launch the new campaign. We need to blame somebody. We need to
blame this on somebody. And these these people. They're
taking it. I mean, they're, they're going with false flag
now. They're not saying it. But whatever it is.
John C Dvorak: Well, just as a reminder, we had the head of the
Council on Foreign Relations on that show, telling them to kick
off a new campaign.
Adam Curry: Well, that no that but that was a campaign that was
to end
John C Dvorak: Ukraine. This is the different war. Well, I know
but it's are
Adam Curry: they get the messages? Yeah. They get the
messages. That's that's your point. Yeah. Well, it's Richard
angle. So this time they brought in Richard angle.
John C Dvorak: Richard. Richard angle. Okay. So yeah,
Adam Curry: the message is, it's Bibi Netanyahu, whose fault
people were hurting
Unknown: your peace, the frustration with the Israeli
military response, the time that it took on October 7, to reach
those kibbutz, as we were talking about that a bit
yesterday on this show. What do officials say about that long
span of time before they can get there?
They are saying absolutely nothing. They are postponing
that question until after the war is over. And it's many
Israelis initially were accepting that and they said
fine. This is a national time of national crisis, National
Emergency investigations will be held later. But as time passes,
they are they are demanding answers. How could it possibly
have taken in just that was eight hours in other places it
was longer. We spoke to people who are hiding by the side of
the road for 10 1214 hours, some cases 24 hours. This is a
country with a military active police force that has lots of
planes, lots of helicopters, how could it possibly and it's a
small country, how could they have missed what looked like an
army crossing the border, the Hamas militants crossed in
Israel, most of them in a militarized uniform in green,
many of them in vehicles on motorcycles. They vending we're
setting fires rampaging the Israelis throughout, we're
calling each other communicating. I've spoken to
families of survivors who manage themselves to send friends and
relatives to go rescue people before there was any kind of
military or police response. So there was a not just an
intelligence failure to do not anticipate this attack, but then
a complete failure in responding to it. And the official line is,
yes, there was a failure. We will deal with that at a later
time and there will be a full and thorough investigation.
Adam Curry: Ah, so the message is clear. Thank you very much
CIA guys. So mica, Mica. Come on baby. Do your business, Richard.
Unknown: So Israel also now saying it has detained hundreds
of people suspected of terrorism? What more can you
tell us about that?
So there is a considerable amount of confusion about these,
these these images that many people are finding disturbing.
They show they were broadcast on Israeli television extensively
yesterday, and they show at least 100 Palestinians on the
ground, stripped down to their underwear holding their their
head in their hands with is regarded by Israeli troops and
the Israeli military spokesman said that they were not
officially released by the military. He didn't deny them
but he said he didn't know if or when Israeli soldiers may have
taken them. But he said that the the main mission is to confront
Hamas and go after Hamas suspects wherever they are.
Israeli media said that they were men who were arrested in
Gaza, and that some of them included Hamas suspects who turn
themselves in. very differently. They say that this was an
attempt by Israeli forces to to humiliate Palestinians and break
the will of the people. Response Time question is not just a
little follow up, we'll leave for later. This is a disturbing
reality eight hours is rule is the size of what Massachusetts
maybe Benjamin Netanyahu was very quick to declare war, he
could assess the situation and realize that Israel was at war,
but eight hours to get to women who are being raped, by the way
for a year for months. Disregarding a female analyst
who said this is coming, there's a 40 page document, spelling it
out. And I want to spell this out even more. For you. Think
about it. This is a small country, these gave crossings
are militarized. You're gonna tell me they don't have cameras,
you're gonna tell me. They don't have panic buttons, you're going
to tell me they have absolutely no communication with the
outside world. But they could there was no warning of this
sign of this, there was no way to know that we immediately need
to respond and get there within minutes. This is a problematic
question. And it's it's fair to ask, it should be asked now. And
quite frankly, how does the administration go forward?
Without knowing the answer? We're suffering the
repercussions here in the United States. We're learning a lot
about attitudes and the response to this complex situation. But
that question needs to be answered.
Adam Curry: That wasn't my bell by the way. For some reason.
They're using a bell now. I think that was her Your time's
up from the control room. So that's there it is. There's your
answer. It's Bibi Netanyahu whose fault Yeah,
John C Dvorak: but here's what's that stage one of the I don't
want to say of the up,
Adam Curry: I'll say it. No
John C Dvorak: problem is the stage one, stage two, which is
already starting to float around and surface is Netanyahu knew
this was coming. He wanted it to happen so he could make his move
against the Palestinians.
Adam Curry: Makes nothing but sense because
John C Dvorak: he did this on purpose. Yeah, it wasn't a
failure of intelligence. So
Adam Curry: of course that's that is the that's why I said
they're moving towards false now he's done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
that and then the woke when?
John C Dvorak: And yeah, and Israel goes all queer approach
to queer
Adam Curry: approaches to Israel, queers for Palestine.
Oh, yeah.
John C Dvorak: And queer history Israel queer should yeah, it's
just it's, it's this is the untold part of the story. These
the I guess somebody even came in I said, Israel is probably
the most gay country in the world. This whole thing is
simmering underneath this
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, that that was part of the whole the
whole protest against him that this is what we know all those
protests were as I was told from boots on the ground, very
similar to Black Lives Matter matters. During Trump Yeah. Now
they do have an out they've created an out yah, yah sin wha
that's the guy we're now after. Yeah, yes. In WA. If we can,
yeah, well, yeah, we can get Yaya, then I think we can end
this what is the very latest in terms of the fighting?
Unknown: Almost impossible to judge on the accuracy of what's
the reports coming from the Israeli military. But they do
say that they're making progress. They say that Hamas is
military structures are beginning to break down that
brigade structures are beginning to collapse. As more and more
fighters are killed. The Australia has claimed round
about 7000. Hamas fighters have been killed since the war
started after October the seventh, as I said, impossible
to verify that but if it's true, that's about 25% of Hamas is arm
strength and it would indicate that it is beginning to fall
apart. And there are signs to the morale is beginning to
collapse a bit. Hamas fighters surrendering in the northern
part of Gaza in the Jabalia refugee camp in the South yokkao
Sin Well, that's the commander of Hamas in Gaza as house has
been surrounded. Israel's describing that as a symbolic
victory for them nothing more than that, but say they will get
Yahya sinwar under they will kill him eventually, that he's
got no perhaps moments, the fighting is going on very, very
intensely house to house from top to bottom of Gaza. The
Israelis have a high newness to main city in the south of Gaza
surrounded now with armor and that pressing forward into the
city on the grounds that the same time they're calling people
to evacuate. As you said, the introduction to this report.
Yeah, I
Adam Curry: think that's the guy Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Kind of name that we were always looking for like
that cigarette guy Six Sigma, whoever it was in Africa.
There's been a bunch of these characters. They're always have
stupid names. Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. And yeah, it's easy to remember we can remember
is easy.
John C Dvorak: And, you know, it's rhymes and certain songs
have to Yeah,
Adam Curry: sit in my yard. From a Yeah, yeah. Sin walks. So
John C Dvorak: yeah, yeah. So they're gonna get him even
though they have his house around it. I don't know why they
just don't walk in and get him. But right now it's around. And I
guess they said eventually, they'll get in there somehow.
And so just bomb in place. And
Adam Curry: you know, so. And this will only last as long as
Netanyahu can come up with something to save his own hide,
because he's got to come up with a counter to the counter. Now
he'll do something he's in trouble. He's in trouble. Well,
no, he's, and he's, I mean, really, the only thing he needs
to do here is just keep going. But eventually, you know,
because the good terrace. he invoked Article, I think 99 or
something of
John C Dvorak: Oh, good terrorists is just a Israel
hater.
Adam Curry: So when you invoke Well, at this point we need to
stop the war. We the killing can stop anytime now. You know, it's
I think everyone's made their point was somebody's got
John C Dvorak: to come up with a way to do it. That's the
problem. Seems that all these western countries can get into
these quagmires and they can't get out. Because, you know,
here's another interesting irony. We always bitch and moan
about the Asians. And they're the way they deal with things
they have to come out. They have to save face, it's so important
for them. Because they're there, they've got their egos are all
tied up and saving face. I have never seen anything worse than
the Americans, the Europeans and everybody outside of Asia,
having to save face. We're the ones we have to save face. We
just can't walk away from anything. Oh, because we're
losing. We're embarrassing. That's
Adam Curry: true. That's true. And when I I'm going to move
away from this for a second go, but since it's still genocide,
Joe back to Biden, because just when we're getting ready to, you
know, the message has gone out, Hey, we got to stop this, we got
to stop the Ukraine thing. And that's now being used for some
border stuff, which is all bull crap. They're going to stick it
all in there. They're going to give Ukraine more money for a
little bit longer. But we needed to ratchet it up one more step,
just one more. And this is a setup by Kirby and then I'll
play the actual Biden clip.
Unknown: So we can't support Ukraine. Their chief adviser
yesterday said they're likely to lose this war, if they lose us
support. And Putin gets all of Ukraine, then what? Then?
Where's he go? Because right, then he's up against the Eastern
Flank of NATO. And if you think the cost of supporting Ukraine
is high now, just imagine how much higher it's going to be not
just in national treasure, but in American blood, if he starts
going after one of our NATO allies, because as the President
also said, we take our Article Five commitments very seriously.
So the
Adam Curry: so what he's saying here now, this is this is I
mean, this is not even to be taken seriously, is the if we
don't keep using Ukrainian men, as cannon fodder to be blown up
every single day. There's another Abrams tank, there's
another Bradley vehicle, these things are getting blown up one
after another. It's
John C Dvorak: yeah, once they show up, they get blown up, get
blown up
Adam Curry: continuously. It's all bull crap. It's all lies.
It's not true. So now we're saying, you know, if we don't go
for the original truce, which I would like to point out,
according that I will use the language of our producers who
are very mad, very mad, that we're really mad about why we
didn't call Henry Kissinger, a war criminal. You see,
John C Dvorak: so I will I hadn't I don't want to interrupt
the train. But I had a good guy. Yeah, but I'm going to some guy
writes for you, you know, he's a war criminal. Why don't you say
it you know, when you said, and so you know, you know who this
guy is some Dutch guy. And so I'm, I'm I think, and so I still
want somebody to give me an example. How was he a war
criminal? Cambodia? Oh, really? He went over to Cambodia. I
didn't know that. I thought it was over here all the time. You
mean he advised Nixon perhaps to bomb Cambodia and then Nixon
bombed Cambodia, or he advised you Lyndon Johnson tend to go
deeper into North Vietnam and bomb. I mean, he advised one
president after the other. It's the president who's the war
criminal. He doesn't have to take Henry Kissinger's advice.
But yet when when Lyndon Johnson died, nobody said he was a war
criminal. When Nixon died, nobody called him a war
criminal. But poor Henry Kissinger, he dies. Somehow he's
the war criminal because all he did was sit on his ass at a
desk. He didn't pull a gun out. He didn't carry a gun. He didn't
shoot anybody, but he's a war criminal. For what?
Adam Curry: For being a Jew. Come on, you know, this. Sounds
obvious. So by the same logic, by the same logic, Boris Johnson
is a war criminal, because he thwarted the peace he prolong
the war between Russia and Ukraine. This is fact unknown,
and there's no disagreement over this. Nobody has denied it. And
all Putin wanted was the buffer, which he's going to get
eventually 700,000 men have died I'll guess just No, look, I'm no
Hamas health authority. But when it comes to Ukraine, those
numbers are probably pretty accurate. A lot of Russians a
lot of Ukrainians died over this silliness, the stupidity,
probably just to cover up the crimes of our political elites,
including the Biden's including the Pelosi that doesn't carry
kid labs,
John C Dvorak: the lab Bio Labs all over Ukraine, nobody's
talking about that anymore. Bring up all all
Adam Curry: of these crimes, the money laundering, the the
cybercrime, the hookers, all of it. There's always hookers
involved to cover all of that to create an even better crime
state. No, we had to delay all that and just kill some people
who cares. Ursula is invalid. They're all involved in this is
no secret to us. We tried to just deconstruct media anyway,
to bring it back. This is now the new Gambit is no no. If If
Ukraine falls then they're going to attack what?
John C Dvorak: Yeah. domino theory over again from the
1960s. Poland. Is
Adam Curry: that who they're gonna attack really Poland?
That'll
John C Dvorak: be the day and but you've got well,
Adam Curry: let's listen to the to the current president. Good
Unknown: afternoon, everyone. I would like to speak to you today
about an urgent responsibility. The Congress has to uphold the
national security needs of the United States. And quite
frankly, of our partners as well. This cannot wait. Congress
needs to pass supplemental funding for Ukraine before they
break for the holiday resources as simple as that. Frankly, I
think it's stunning that we've gotten to this point in the
first place of Congressman Publix and Congress's are
willing to give Putin the greatest gift he could hope for
and abandon our global leadership, not just Ukraine.
But beyond it Putin takes Ukraine, he won't stop there.
It's important to see the long run here. He's gonna keep going.
He's made that pretty clear Putin attacks and NATO ally,
then we'll have something that we don't seek, and that we don't
have today, American troops fighting Russian troops,
American troops fighting Russian troops if he moves into other
parts of NATO. Extreme Republicans are playing chicken
with our national security, holding Ukraine's funding
hostage to their extreme partisan border policies. And
now they're willing to literally kneecap Ukraine on the
battlefield and damage our national security the process.
Well
Adam Curry: buckle up everybody because I do not put it beyond
these people at all to create some kind of false flag. I'm
gonna say it, I'll just say it. And they want war so bad. No, I
know everyone's gonna say no, what's the Zinus now is Joe
Biden, his Blinken, bomber, all the all these people, they're
all horrible. They love war. They don't care. They don't
care. We should be happy that Putin is reserved. And by the
way, he's of course running for reelection. BBC time President
Putin
Unknown: wasn't even looking at the camera. When he announced
today he was seeking another six years in office is muffled words
were picked up by nearby microphone at a ceremony to
award medals to soldiers fighting in Ukraine. He was told
by one of them Russia needs you. To which he replied,
I will not hide that I have had different thoughts at different
times. But it's now time to make a decision. But now is the right
time, the time when the decision needs to be made. I will run for
the position of president of the Russian Federation,
where it will be Mr. Putin's fifth term and we're leading
opposition figures either imprisoned or in exile voting
and is expected to be a formality and his reelection
assured.
Adam Curry: Now, analysis of this is even more interesting
from the BBC. Because, as we know, election rigging doesn't
happen anywhere. No, Trump is an idiot. It was the it was the
fairest election ever. But when it comes to Putin,
Unknown: there's clearly no doubt in his mind and the minds
of those that surround him that he will be reelected. There's
no question about that. And we even have already a sense of
what it's likely to be. In terms of the results. Apparently,
Putin's spin doctors and political technicians are
working on a 75 to 80% share of the vote on a 70% turnout,
because they want to make some kind of grand gesture about how
the Russian people are behind them. But that said, although
the outcome of the election is not in doubt, the interesting
thing about Russian elections is how much work the Kremlin's will
have to do to get that result. In theory, it can just rig the
whole thing. Now, because it's introducing voting over three
days and a lot of electronic voting, which makes rigging even
simpler than before. However, if you rigged it to, obviously to
offensively show say, not only does it mean that you're going
to win the kind of public legitimacy that you hope for,
but also there's a risk that it sparks public protests it has in
the past 2011 2012 We saw the largest protests in Russia since
1991. Because of that reason, so instead, a lot of how do you pre
read, buying off constituencies? And in particular, making sure
that you stack the campaign so that none of the other
candidates look at all appealing or credible tell
Adam Curry: there it is. Don't worry, besides the fact that
Putin is clearly has cancer and his dead will be dead any minute
now. He looks so sick. Now. Now he's going to rig his own
election. This is exactly how insane we become. Now we have
two new puppets on the playing field. This is important to pay
attention to because the Lensky has done that once you went with
the Hey man, give us some credit. Give us some credit. Now
he was done. He doesn't have the juice. Juice, ju ice troll room.
Okay, the juice. You gotta you gotta clarify that everything's
these trolls. You know, his recent appearance in front of
Congress was canceled. So we have two puppets on the scene
now for the Republicans. We have rousse llansteffan shook head of
Ukrainian parliament. He is this huge. I mean, the guy is gotta
be six, six foot seven teeth. You know, he was here he is with
shaking Mike Johnson's hand, the Speaker of the House, within
your black all black military style fatigues. And he is in
fact number he is. Number two in line should anything happen to
Zelinsky. But then all of a sudden, I'm going to think
Military Industrial Complex puppet pops up. Welcome back.
Poroshenko Hello, and
Unknown: welcome to Tetteh Ted France. 24th flagship interview
show. Our guest today is Petro Poroshenko. He is the former
President of Ukraine and the leader of the opposition. He
joins us from Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine. Thank you very much,
Mr. Poroshenko. It's a pleasure. Thank you for the invitation.
Mr. Poroshenko, the US Senate has decided for now to withhold
a major package of financial and military aid for Ukraine. There
is a forthcoming European Union summit next week also to decide
whether there should be financial and military aid to
Ukraine, no guarantee that there will be agreement on this. Are
you worried that the West is losing faith in Ukraine and is
not going to provide Ukraine with the financial and military
assistance it needs. For us to understand that this next week,
or next seven days, is one of the most important day in
Ukrainian history. And undoubtedly, very important
for Europe. And for the rest situation. This is not just a
package for assistance Ukraine, we discussed with the United
States. This is the investment in the American security in the
American defense capability. And with that situation, I hate the
idea that Ukraine can appear the hostage of different Arbic
questions included in the question for the internal policy
for the Let's hear election. Now
Adam Curry: if I had to bet on it I'd say Poroshenko is the guy
he's the guy that is going to be brought in to create the truce
that we will get American weapons defense this is all been
flushed out I think already Poroshenko who was brought back
to Ukraine to face treason and you know whatever be of treason
charges literally three treason charges. So now he's they're
just hanging out doing a little interviews with Deutsche Avella.
I think he's the guy. He's the guy that will they'll be brought
in. The truce will be signed. This guy's a CIA guy to be fired
as as Deutsche Avella has asked him. Thank you. Did you hear
them leading the witness, by the way with that question?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, amateur.
Adam Curry: So I think that's that's where we're at. I think
that's, that is the that's the basic Yeah,
John C Dvorak: but there's something going on. I think the
reason for all this money right now just before if they keep
talking about before the holidays is because this is when
their fiscal year is going to end for a couple of these these
giant defense contractors and they need to get their bonuses
figured out and it's always a piece of the action and so
they're gonna get their Christmas bonuses this year.
They're gonna get it next year. And so they gotta get that put
put aside, and that's what the reason for the panic is yes.
Adam Curry: Yes. There's Let me see. I'm going to bring in AI
into this conversation because there is some AI news. As you
know, AI it's the future
John C Dvorak: of bullcrap future humor, if you watch
enough of these clips of Hillary, well,
Adam Curry: well, here's here's a good one. I like this AI,
which, of course, we have regulation everywhere. This is
AI is the most dangerous thing in the world, if you ever want
to prove that AI was bad. Al Jazeera has the latest on the AI
that is killing Palestinians, more than two months of Israeli
bombing have turned the Gaza strip into a hellscape entire
neighborhoods had been wiped out made uninhabitable with more
than 16,000 Palestinians killed. It is a population on the run
and unfolding genocide. And we now know that the unprecedented
killing of Gazans is being powered, at least in part by AI,
and Israeli artificial intelligence system that
generates new targets at a rate we have never seen before. We
have
Unknown: three AI systems, which operate in concert, we have the
alchemists system, which collects information with the
second layer of this AI system, which is called the Fire
factory, which analyzes the data and the gospel system which
produces possible military targets.
Adam Curry: Thanks, bro. The killing of AI is called the
gospel,
Unknown: it must be stressed that every military target which
is attacked from the air by the IDF goes through an analysis of
both intelligence officers and legal advisors. So while AI
systems produce potential targets, at the end of the day,
these are human beings which are authorizing them,
the Gaza Strip and the occupied Palestinian territories have
become a testing laboratory in every sense of the word there is
just simply no limitations to the extent that Israel can test
these technologies against Palestinians. I think the
objective is clear. And that is the annihilation of Palestinians
in the Gaza Strip and making Gaza uninhabitable these
technologies that are used now in Gaza we should probably
upgrade the term from automated apartheid to automated genocide.
Adam Curry: There you go automated genocide beautiful.
The screw you guys calling it the gospel. Bring out the book.
Stop that nonsense nonsense. The EU however, has I think I'm
thank you for the left.
John C Dvorak: The A What is funny if you think about it is
it's it's so gospel. Gent. Yeah. Okay. Say it. Go
Adam Curry: ahead, say it.
John C Dvorak: Well, it basically infers Christian
Christian. Yes. And so you have the like a Christian, you know,
behind the killing done by the Jews against the Palestinians,
just the layers of irony and as far as screwing this is just way
over the top. So
Adam Curry: the EU completed as the first ever in the world, Pa
they're so good. They're the EU's they can they've just got
their AI regulation done. Now this is only the political part
because the actual technical part will need to come later.
But listen to this,
Unknown: do you if you and the union has agreed on on
legislation to govern the use of artificial intelligence, the
deal includes limits on facial recognition technology, and
restrictions on using AI to manipulate human behavior that
you use as the future legal framework for AI will include
tough penalties for companies breaking the rules, but will not
stifle development of the industry in Euros for those
years of discussions among Member States and lawmakers in
the European Parliament.
We had one objective to deliver a legislation that would ensure
that the ecosystem of AI in Europe would develop with a
human centric approach respecting fundamental rights
and the European values.
Adam Curry: Because this is really something that is much
more I believe that book is a launchpad for the European
startups, and also researchers to to lead the global race for
what our fellow citizens for trustworthy. Alright, so blah,
blah, blah. We did a great job, everybody. Let's get to the
details with our Deutsche Abello tech, Deutsche Bella techno
douche,
Unknown: you will divide AI applications into four risk
classes, some of them will be completely forbidden, like
facial recognition in on a massive scale. There are some
exemptions for military and law enforcement.
Adam Curry: Ah, don't worry, everybody, facial recognition
not going to happen with a couple of exemptions for police,
the police need to do it. And
Unknown: also the behavioral control and control of your
thoughts that will be also banned. Except
Adam Curry: when we need to control your thoughts at this a
few exemptions in the controlling your thoughts area.
But
Unknown: high risk applications for example, in self driving
cars will be allowed in the EU to be certified. The technique
has to be open so that everybody can see how that works. And
normally I would call it like Chet GBT on a medium risk level
that can be in the EU without any restrictions. But it has to
be documented how this thing works. And everybody has to know
that he's dealing with AI that is not talking to a human. Wait,
wait, wait, there's a fourth category. This is one of the
essential measures in the whole legislations. You as a consumer
should always decide do I want to talk to a machine, I have to
know that it's not human. This is the basic principle and but
there are also some AI applications that could be not
regulated, for example, audio and video altering programs that
make these well known deep fakes. These are not regulated,
they don't pose a high risk in the view of the EU.
Adam Curry: I love it. So we could do any kind of deep fakes.
We want an audio and video no problem. And by the way, I love
the name that he came up with chat GP GPT. I think we should
have a chat bot called chit,
John C Dvorak: chit chit chat is
Adam Curry: a great name for it for a chat bot. And of course,
right?
John C Dvorak: Yes, I just stood in that conversation. He
discussed the openness necessary for the self driving cars. Yes.
Which is the last thing I want. Because I don't want any every
hacker in the world going through the code of a self
driving car and looking for ways to defeat the mechanism and for
fool it or have a drive into over the cliff or across the you
know, across the bridge and then over the bridge into the drink.
I mean, the you don't want that. No.
Adam Curry: Well, the EU, the UK is lucky because they're no
longer a part of EU regulation. And it's, that's great, because
Brits may now be forced to take a selfie before they can watch
porn. You know, because the fate the the AI will make sure you're
old enough. That's how they're going to check that. They have
one more clip here before Wow, good one that it's great idea.
Don't worry. It's just making sure you're old enough. Don't
worry about the selfie or to worry
John C Dvorak: about the fact that we're going to post these
selfies of the people watching porn.
Adam Curry: The funniest news this week was that that fabulous
demo of Google's Gemini that everybody was drooling over
turns out was completely phony it up.
John C Dvorak: Gee, wait a minute, Silicon Valley demo was
following up. What a genius idea.
Adam Curry: If you saw it, they had you know they were talking
to it and it was answering and they were showing little like
oh, this drawing a duck. Oh, that's a Duck QUACK. Except they
cut out all the response times that could have been three
seconds. 30 seconds. Who knows? The voice prompts were not
voiced. They had pre entered those with text. The whole thing
was phony. Phony from Google. That's okay. because we have Al
Gore to bring the humor back into AI. And he did it does, he
had a great interview, half an hour at COP 28. No cop is
complete without Al Gore
Unknown: to one based on broadcasting and then moving on
to the internet and to social media has disrupted the balances
that used to exist, that made representative democracy work
much better. Because a free self governing people rely on a
shared base of knowledge that serves as a basis for reasoning
together collectively. But if you have social media that is
dominated by algorithms that pull people down these rabbit
holes that are a bit like pitcher plants, these
algorithms, they are the digital equivalent of AR fifteens. They
ought to be banned, they really ought to be banned. It's an
abuse of the public forum. But when these when people are
pulled down these rabbit holes, you know what's at the bottom of
the rabbit hole. That's where the echo chamber is. And if you
spend too much time in the echo chamber, what's weaponized is
another form of AI, not artificial intelligence,
artificial insanity. I'm serious. I'm serious.
Adam Curry: I'm at the bottom, I'll help me.
John C Dvorak: Artificial insanity,
Adam Curry: which is dumb, because artificial insanity
would mean that people aren't really insane. It's artificial.
But that's just an outdoor man. And yeah, he comes out. He comes
out on stage. He puts his hand together praying like Thank you.
Thank you. I'm so thank you know
John C Dvorak: mosty Namaste.
Adam Curry: Yeah, Namaste style.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Very good to the Buddha.
Adam Curry: I gotta reiterate right now. I see even comic
strip blogger loved the man. I've known him longer than my
wife. And he and he posts from from what is it? Barf. grok.
This is Elon Musk's fantastic AI grok. It's it's word salad. It's
crap. None of this is good. It's entirely recognizable
immediately.
John C Dvorak: It's just they gotta fix that
Adam Curry: they can't because it's no good. These things can't
even do math. They really can't if you ask them to do some some
basic math. It's hard for AI. It's people argue with me all
day long. But AI is not going to kill us. This is list
John C Dvorak: all over and kill us with laughter
Adam Curry: It's list all over again. The AI winter is coming.
This Yeah. That was the largest used Yeah, right. The list guys
are all over this like, hey, we did this with list midweek at
least create this large list model. That's what it is. It's
not impressive. It's going to fail. And the only people
winning are is Nvidia because everyone wants compute cycles.
And I think I would say that they're they're good for a
short. I mean, that's just me. I don't I'm not the DH on plug
guy. I'm just saying that. Some things. This Gemini demo was the
second fail for Google. The first one was barf. And he got
all the answers wrong. And then this Gemini demo was faked.
Where's the business?
John C Dvorak: where's the where's the data? You did? Now?
You You nailed it. Where does the business where's the
business? The business is meet compute side like that old
commercial? Yeah, where's the business?
Adam Curry: where's the where's the beef? Where's the business?
John C Dvorak: I mean, that the way I see it, I still liked the
AI stuff because I love the Hillary AI woman I liked the
Biden AI. Like all the AIS that are being used for great for
humor by goofballs that are online creating this stuff to
not make it there's no business in that either. And it's like
the guys who do memes there's no business model. You can't do
memes for a living though. And but that's where it's going it's
where it's headed and some of its pretty getting better.
Adam Curry: With that stuff is fantastic. And that's as you saw
is the is the bottom of the totem pole. I mean that will be
used for now it will be used in reverse as we discussed. I
didn't say that said politician a. That must have been AI that's
not true. When there's
John C Dvorak: a bias there's a product for sale. I think it's
actually legit. It's a product debt. It is a snap on finger.
Yes. The extra finger, you put you put this finger on it so
anyone takes a picture of you and says that it's a picture of
you doing something rather you point out that you have six
fingers on one hand so it must be a I That's great. I just
thought it was a great idea.
Adam Curry: I mean, seriously that. I just don't see that.
Now. Okay. So pretty soon, just like everybody had homogenized
flower points will have homogenized Word docs, it all be
the same at all be the, in the ever expanding world of filling
your business name. That's what it does. It creates predictable
crap. It's not impressive.
John C Dvorak: No, I agree. It means not impressive. No, thank
you. So it is funny.
Adam Curry: Well, it'll be great for the show. But when when then
John C Dvorak: is great for the show because you can bellyache
constantly, which you do. Yes, I do. Which is my job. But you do
a better job of it with AI with AI with AI and it's material.
It's dynamite. As you mentioned, I should have clipped up the
Hillary thing. Yes. Where she blames everything on global
warming, which is very funny because like
Adam Curry: the Greta thing that was great. You know, the Greta
with the vegan hand grenades. I mean, it's yeah, it's great.
It's just it's not a business model. Comedy is hard. It's hard
to make money at comedy.
John C Dvorak: Especially when you're just giving it away. Yes.
So
Adam Curry: no, it's I'm sorry. And I love all the podcasts
companies. Oh, we've got AI for this. Yeah, we'll do your show
notes. Ai everyone wants to make it so easy. Like oh, you don't
have you hardly have to show up and your podcast will be created
is great. No, no, it's not.
John C Dvorak: So we were I wanted to talk about TV and
movies for a minute.
Adam Curry: Okay, we do have to take a break. So we're, we got
John C Dvorak: to heart out that's come out of the break.
And I want to bitch about a couple of things out there.
Adam Curry: Let's go into the break with pitching that's
always fun. Come on, do it. Well, let's start
John C Dvorak: with this that there's a movie The Dave hell
raising the Flower Hill or whatever it is, is a it's a
score Ceci movie that was produced by Apple. Oh, god, it's
three and a half hours long. I have a screen here. I tried to
why it's unwatchable is too long. It's about some murders
that took place in the south during the of Indians. And I'm
going to play a clip from it. This is the whole movie by the
way. Oh, it's as if it's like Southern accents killers
Adam Curry: of the flower moon. Yeah, killers of the flower
moon.
John C Dvorak: It's it's a money is obviously Scorsese got to
show up who knows how much money to do this film. Took it to
three and a half hours to make sure nobody actually got to want
to see it. Because they you'd be embarrassed. And the whole movie
is like DiCaprio and a bunch of other guys including De Niro.
You know, the usual suspects
Adam Curry: is one of those and man we're all on the Scorsese
movies. Gonna be like The Godfather.
John C Dvorak: We're gonna have nothing but fun. They all have
the worst Southern accents a match mine is bad. No, DiCaprio
is is worse. And he's doing a Texas accent and even though
he's from Saudi it's just terrible. And the whole movie I
have a clip from the movie I'm telling you the whole three and
a half hours is basically this
Unknown: yes me mess for you for Kingham don't see the foundation
curly until we take care of one read all right it's time now guy
came to write man my wife said my wife sick to my wife said to
go Why don't you Why are you always trying to get somebody
like me? Do you work for you walk because I don't know. I
don't really see Kirby looks locking right I mean I wouldn't
do it but I can't do it because I don't know. I'm sorry. Hi,
I'll do it. But I can't do it right now. I can't get to a
right now just so you know that something needs to be done
straight away. Not to wait on for Hale has to be done straight
away right now. Me and mighty pushing earnest. I gotta get
back. Let me tell you, John, John. This is it. One more
change. I will talk to King Hale. I'm gonna tell him you're
gonna do right now. I don't want to lose this job John. Dang it.
Adam Curry: Oh man, that's bad.
John C Dvorak: I mean a whole movie is basically that
Adam Curry: I live in the South. They don't nobody
John C Dvorak: talks like that. I know. man put his like clip
custodian
Adam Curry: says he watched it took him two days to watch it.
John C Dvorak: Oh, he couldn't watch it in one setting now I
don't think anybody can. But why get even why even watch it?
Adam Curry: Well, as his kid is going through chemo, this was
probably less fun. Watching this movie. Oh my god. We're
John C Dvorak: talking about some of the other crap that's on
television. The Kelsey Grammer reboot. Yes, unwatchable. I
anything is on network TV. If I watched something,
Adam Curry: I watched something that I liked. Okay. ready for
it. We watched it last night. It had a very different type of
plot. It had good cameos I would say out and not just can't but
big, good actors, well known actors. He kept the producer the
guy who produced it and stars in it kept true to his, his legacy.
And it's a Christmas movie, Candy Cane Lane, by Eddie
Murphy. very watchable, very watchable. Very fun.
John C Dvorak: Bill Murphy is no slouch when it comes to
producing a movie or being in a movie that's watchable. Yeah.
And
Adam Curry: it was a different take on a on a Christmas movie.
It was a lot of black actors, but it wasn't like look, we're
all black actors. I mean, it was just it was good. It was a good
movie.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's probably a contrast to Sean
Hannity's producing movie.
Adam Curry: Oh no.
John C Dvorak: Which is only on rumble and he's so proud of it.
And the title alone tells you where this movie is headed. It's
called jingle smells now
Adam Curry: just stop stop I'm kidding. Yes, that can't be
true. Jingle smells Do you have a clip? No, I
John C Dvorak: don't have a clip I didn't think God bringing a
clip of that but thank you so so proud of this is a good movie
that all the family is a good Christian values movie
Adam Curry: brother and it's on rumble
John C Dvorak: rumble or bitch shoot one of the two is that guy
get these mixed up these platforms and God
Adam Curry: well there you go everybody that's your holiday
watching tips from your no agenda show. And with that I'd
like to thank you for your currency in the morning to you
the man who put the commies who want hate our capitalism you put
the season that's a lot of my friend on the other end one one
only missed our jobs
John C Dvorak: in the morning the industry and McCurry look in
the morning, boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the
water and all the names and all
Adam Curry: their trolls the trolls are good. I'm really
digging the joke I you know, I've really I've I've really
changed my stance a lot. I love the trolls and the troll room
I'm feeling very good. I like it when they say horrible things to
me. Because I forgive them immediately obviously, it's it's
it's good and it just scrolls off and then the trolls do other
things and they focus our attention on someone else we
have 2031 Trolls today
John C Dvorak: that's 400 lower this but seems to be our new
Sunday number it's our new low
Adam Curry: this is our new low Exactly. But what it but it's
it's you know we are a bit two minutes and 18 Two hours and 18
minutes into the show. I wanted to break earlier but we are on
such a roll. Because the this will be a very short donation
segment are getting shorter as the days get longer. The longer
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You've got the troll room right there. And if you're if you're
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John C Dvorak: it's true. And people should go to modern
podcast apps.com Every so often. That's
Adam Curry: right, just check up and see what's going on. Thank
you, John. And you should also go to too many eggs.com Because
it's a great combo.
John C Dvorak: You never know if you need a big fat giant
cookbook, too many eggs. It's these are all good tip little
ball rolling on the no agenda show. That's what you're
supposed to do. If you're doing a podcast is log roll, which Joe
Rogan doesn't do.
Adam Curry: It's interesting. You bring that up because these
apps have a new feature which is called the pod roll. I didn't
make the name up. And now that we have in our pod enroll for
the show which shows up in the apps. We have DHA unplugged. And
I think I put Korean zookeeper in there. If you have another
one, you put that one in there, let me know. And I'll add it.
It's exactly that same thing. It's log rolling only for
podcasts, which is a great discovery mechanism. You can
also follow us on what is that thing called? No agenda?
social.com which I no longer pay for it? No, it's not. It's it's
very disappointing.
John C Dvorak: I am now doing the three the three main posts
every so often.
Adam Curry: Is that what you're doing
John C Dvorak: it dedicated to you?
Adam Curry: Thank you. So you just post three main things is
that once a day memes movie, no meme memes to you as a mean
thing, but
John C Dvorak: it means memes. Yes. Yeah. Boys three.
Adam Curry: Honestly, I've been looking at the no agenda.
Telegram channels. Now. I mean, that's better. As to me. It's
better. It's what happens is
John C Dvorak: you I don't even know you had a channel. Oh, I
Adam Curry: didn't create it. This is Oh, by the
John C Dvorak: way, you gotta send me an invite.
Adam Curry: Oh, no, you can just join. There must be 50. No
agenda channels and groups on telegram. And I hate telegram.
But it's the signal to noise ratio. I can't post I can't do a
reply. or anything. Everyone's like, it's negative. It's all
negative. No one's nice to me. And you know, if you're not
nice, then then I'm
John C Dvorak: just not going to be nice to my wife told me Yeah,
but
Adam Curry: they're not. And you know, I get all triggered. And
then there's all these memes. And there's a lot of you know,
polarizing things. We're the most blocked and hated group on
the fediverse.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And it shows. Yeah, we are the block
group they hated. The fediverse does not like is the whole fair
versus a joke.
Adam Curry: Well, there's that. But it's, it's something about
hate the game, not the players. It's something about social
media. That just it's it's broken. It's evil. It's the
devil. I think
John C Dvorak: I think you're onto something. And I brought up
the Marshall McLuhan concepts. And I think you nailed it. It's
the medium is the message. Yes.
Adam Curry: And I'm, I'm happy to I mean, I love our community.
I love no agenda. In fact, we have, we did this meet up the
super spreader, seething, infected human resources, meet
up
John C Dvorak: Indiana of the affected Indiana meetup.
Adam Curry: And I asked, this will be our end of show because
we didn't really get any new mixes. So I asked, you know,
instead of just saying, because, you know, there's a lot of
people there. And you do just the two minutes of people thank,
you know, like, Hey, it's me. It's me. It's
John C Dvorak: me. It's saying lotta handshaking letter.
Adam Curry: I'm talking, talking about them out of control,
talking about the meetup report.
John C Dvorak: That's what I meant, right? So
Adam Curry: instead of that, I said, Why don't you do a meter
report and tell us what you're thankful for. And that shows the
real no agenda community. And I'm going to play that as our
end of show that's we did is I know, I knew you'd love it. It's
about sad. It'd be right after the good news, too, which is,
man, there's so much good stuff coming. If you leave now you are
bad and stupid.
John C Dvorak: But that's I know, see that you condemning
them already know. But
Adam Curry: the trolls don't leave. Because the troll room is
the place where you can do this stuff. I love it troll me all
you want on the troll room is perfect for that. It's
ephemeral, it goes away. And you can do that in a modern podcast
app too. So value for value is what we've been running on. I
think by now you realize that if you got this far, and you're a
first time listener, maybe second time, you're like, how do
these guys do all this stuff without getting the platform?
Well, we don't. We don't have a platform, first of all, but
we're gonna say we
John C Dvorak: create our own platform. That's what everyone
should do is not an impossible. Yes. And we instead of relying
on a third party, we spend the money to create our own
platform, so nobody can kick us off of it. Because we we own it.
Adam Curry: Yes. And we do this with, with our producers who
help us in, in many ways, a lot of the technology stuff that has
been done, we haven't done, we've never built a website for
ourselves that I can remember or maybe one of the first ones all
of that has been done by producers as part of our time,
talent and treasure and the the way it worked with value for
value, which is a concept which is catchy catching on in all
kinds of areas. Music now, people are seeing it as truly
the, the way out. Because Silicon Valley's model is give
us all your content and we'll give you nothing. That's their
basic, that's what Spotify does. That's what they've done to
musicians. That's what they do. That's what social media is, is
Mark Zuckerberg, like hey, give me all your Instagram posts.
Give me real tick tock, give it to me. Give it to me, give him
give it to me, and you get nothing. So you're working your
slave If you're working for them, so instead we just say,
Hey, if you got any value out of the show, if you learned
anything if you if you laughed, even if you cried if there was
something you didn't know of, you know what, even if you got
mad at us, that's valuable. And eventually you'll say, I need
more of that.
John C Dvorak: If I didn't do that you're a listener with Yes.
Couple of shows. Yeah. And
Adam Curry: what I do is I force myself to listen to the, to the
pivot ads, I do that to, you know, to help them. I wish I
could just give them money, I'd gladly give them money with a
message. I hate you. Here's 50 bucks, I'd give him 500. From
time to time, if I had the money. Bet I hate you. Here's
here's some value back. Now, one way, speaking of websites. Let's
see, Sir Paul couture has been running for for many years, and
I just opened it. Yeah. Is it running? Is it up? Nope. He's
been running no agenda, art generator.com, which has been a
just a fabulous resource with almost 30,000 pieces of art.
Since since he started that, and we had something before then and
any there was some horrible incident. He's
John C Dvorak: actually changed this a couple of times. Yes, he
has changed infrastructure. We went to headless Drupal and I
went to just headless Ruby on Rails,
Adam Curry: whatever. So he is taking advantage of the
explosion in the data center to bring everything back up, we
hope with the with a new system, which he was planning anyway.
Whatever we love you, Sir Paul, good tour. If you can get it
back up. You can if not, we have a backup, we can always import
that into a new system. We'll work it out. That's that's part
of the value for value system as well. So since we didn't
contract someone for 1000s of dollars
John C Dvorak: a month to complain about time we know he's
a coder. Its content is continous the way it is yeah,
it's content
Adam Curry: content. But we don't have to get all mad
because we're paying you for this. What are you doing? This
is horrible. Your service is no good. I knew we should have gone
was as your the WS No, no, there's none of that. We just
like okay, all right, man. We know you're working on whatever.
Yeah, we love.
John C Dvorak: Whatever, man. So yeah, I said part
Adam Curry: of that Kumar, wonderful artists. And they and
so they've jerry rigged some system now no agenda. social.com
has been very handy for this. They've been posting their
artwork. They're tagging Sir Paul couture. And so we have
been able to at least get some submissions.
John C Dvorak: It's probably more work now than ever. Oh, it
Adam Curry: tons of work, tons of work. And so we Yeah, and we
always select something from from the offering that we have
there from the value that is returned to us by ours. And we
love all the value. We can only choose one of course, and we
will review it will give you value right back reviewing your
work if we thought it will tell you why we didn't choose it. And
we want to thank Darren O'Neill, who likes crappy music as you
can by stand by he knows Stan nailed it. He could do art every
show. He nailed it with the no agenda threat level indicator.
Yeah, if you haven't, I mean this. This was just great when
the and the levels were low, raised high. Trump and swift.
For Taylor Swift nailed it. So we're at Taylor Swift threat
level. It was great. Darren, thank you. It was just
fantastic. There were a couple others that we discussed. There.
John C Dvorak: A lot of them were good Dame Kenny Ben's MC
partner was I liked that piece a lot. You liked the blinking
lights? Yes. Well, they'd like why didn't Altair computer?
Yeah. Why
Adam Curry: didn't we choose Dame Kenny Ben's that was the
big mac works with ozempic. Why did we not choose that? Just
because Sharon was better? Is
John C Dvorak: it because we liked Darren is better period?
Yeah. And I think it was because of that swift joke. There
Adam Curry: was the network spent a lot of time on on the
crocs discussion. Which was interesting. Yeah, you know why
that was interesting. Let me let me just go back and remind
everybody of what where that came from. Go back to Episode
1614. That's very inexpensive. I wouldn't know you don't get you
wear crocs.
John C Dvorak: I don't wear crocs at all things.
Adam Curry: You wear Speedos that look like crocs.
John C Dvorak: I don't wear Speedos. I don't even know they
made shoes. What is the shoes you
Adam Curry: had that look like crocs. Alright, so that was the
conversation. And as part of that tremendous value, one of
our producers said oh, let me take you back to Episode 910.
What could be in that episode? First.
John C Dvorak: The keyboard was it was The floor probably
happening on the horror would show what you're losing the
keyboard keyboards on the floor and I kick it with my This
happened on our last year you didn't notice
Adam Curry: we just crossed a picket with a crock.
John C Dvorak: I don't wear crocs, I wear Speedos.
Adam Curry: Oh no. happened there.
John C Dvorak: Okay, there was a brand issues that they had at
Costco ones that were made by speedos and they had a slight
resemblance to a crock shoe. Now I to speedos in play other garb,
never
Adam Curry: we knew it was about the the shoes.
John C Dvorak: I had have put in the in the in the safe and the
zipped up that information. And I have now in denial as to the
fact that those were Speedo shoes that I had five years ago.
Adam Curry: The kids call this receipt, I'm really happy
John C Dvorak: that the producers out there have nothing
better to do dig up a slight gash.
Adam Curry: That's value for value right there. That's how it
works. Do you get it now? Do you understand? That's value for
value. Thank you to our artists, for submitting your artwork. We
really appreciate it all of you. I mean, we have now there's a
little extra side issue to the Art Generator being down all of
those beautiful chapter images that Dred Scott does so
diligently for every single show, which he's been doing it
for hundreds of shows, and I think probably about 100 and
over 100 shows. They were all linked to the Art Generator
images. So those of course are temporarily down as well. So
he's been working with some other systems because what we
does he take a lot it takes a lot of this artwork that we did
not choose and puts it into the chapter images for for each
individual show. Thank you for that Drebin Thank you artists.
We appreciate you so much. And we also want to thank of course
the treasurer delivers value and that means our executive and
Associate Executive producers and then a very short list which
gets us to the 50s Before we get into our meet up reports and we
kick it off with Baron not sure from monument Colorado comes in
with a satchel of Richard's that is 111111 and it's a switcheroo
Hey Adam and John he writes Baron not sure here I would like
to call up my sister Mary Rochelle as a douchebag I can't
let her be the last one in our family so I would also like to
credit this donation to her so she can get a dee doo dee doo
she's a nice brother right there. Can she get an old one
didn't have this one and Obama you might die sorry Oh, I missed
that. I missed that. You might die is what else do you want
with that? To do the head Oh goodness gracious. I'm really
fell down on this one.
John C Dvorak: Today a little girl yay.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm looking for two to the head here.
Where's to the head? Got it. But
John C Dvorak: you're doing that I'll read the rest hang out a
little girl. Yeah, please name her Dame Marie. And she's on the
list until she finds something else more fitting be up to her
for the roundtable. She needs some fava beans and a nice
Kiante that way we got a nice Kenzie, thank you guys for your
courage and F for everything you do mark, Rachel Rachel
Adam Curry: and your jobs karma is here as well. Jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
John C Dvorak: Let's vote for job. Karma. Continue with Aaron
Brzezinski in Ottawa, Tennessee, or Etowah. One of the two. Aaron
in Tennessee. This donation gets me a knighthood. I'd like to be
known and by the way came with 33334. I'd like to be known as
Sir Ahab Knight of the seven seas and for all of your real
estate needs in Hawaii. Contact my old friend Cynthia Harrison
edge ventures southerlies International. That's a nice
play for your old friends Cynthia Cynthia Harrison
adventure Sotheby's? We need green crackers at the table.
That's
Adam Curry: right, the old ones I left there are green now. Jim
Bob way and vite Countess Maryanne Schneeberger from
Shotzi land 333 33 Thanks for everything you do. They say
tomorrow is our 10th wedding anniversary and they never had
had a fight. So I'm wishing my wonderful wife, vi Countess
Marianne Schneeberger all my love. Love remains lit JimBob
way, and by contrast, Marian Schneeberger of Shotzi land that
John C Dvorak: came in as a as a direct bank transfer.
Adam Curry: Oh, how does that work? How do you how?
John C Dvorak: Let's find the best straight swift bank
transfers? Oh, that works. Oh, yeah, it
Adam Curry: works no problem so we're not we except from Russia.
John C Dvorak: I don't know about Russia. Not on the Yeah,
because they gotta cut out cut them out. Drat. Indy, no agenda
meetup came in again with Greenway in Greenwood, Indiana
with another $333.33 And as a switcheroo from December 4 The
Indian origin to meet up on behalf of please pirate LLC and
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Adam Curry: I met those guys. I met those guys to meet up very
nice. Actually talk with them for quite a while and they were
like hey man, we got a small box with some of our you know some
of our merch and stuff. And can you take that? Yes. Okay, we
just had carry on. They come out with like, you know this huge
box like now you can send that to the PIO box. It was a little
bit too much. But this stuff is good. I agree you you would like
him if you like. If you'd like rock music and no agenda you'd
like those guys. $300 from Garrett Hampton Broken Arrow
Oklahoma says thank you for the many years of media
deconstruction. Your early coverage of the Common Core
education standards nightmare many years ago, was a huge eye
opener for my wife and me and was pivotable pivotal in our
decision to homeschool our kids. Another human resource saved are
created. So many of our current cultural and political problems
can be traced to the massive failure of the public education
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like to be known as Sir thinking dad, guardian of the home
educators and we'd love sushi and unsweet tea at the
roundtable no pagan karma or jingles for me. Thanks, God
bless Garrett Hampton and God bless you Garrett Thank you.
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna you're gonna read the next one but
first I'll read this one's Linda LAPACK in in Lakewood, Colorado
and 200 bucks jobs karma she wants and then she says believe
it or not, she says the following. For a remarkable
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs, or jobs.
Adam Curry: Very nice donation here from iTunes Crapo from
Amsterdam, the Netherlands Associate Executive Producer
with 200. He says about three years ago, my douchebag friend
Fritz de lunga hit me in the mouth with some stories about
COVID. He also mentioned his high school friend and my idol
for my teenage years. Adam curry. That's how I found out
about the no agenda show. Since then. I've been hooked and a
steady listener of your podcast. Keep up the great work you do
you guys do? Good. you deduce me. You've been de deuced and
call out my douchebag friend Fritz. Who I have here on board
with me on my KlM 667 flight to Austin today. Adam, if you
happen to have time for a cup of coffee tomorrow or Saturday, I
will be honored to meet you. But free liquor through Arnold
Crapo. Well, this is interesting, because if it's too
long, not only Well, we didn't go to school together. He was my
neighbor for many years in NASA Nomsa was even before I lived in
Amsterdam, And he's a 747 Captain as his audience, and he
reached out to me, he texted me. And he said, Hey, I'm going to
be in Austin. And you want to hook up and have some coffee. I
said, Well, I live in Hill Country. Can you guys come out
here? I texted him back. I didn't text me back. So somehow
we missed the communications. And I'm really sorry. Yeah.
Because, well, they'll
John C Dvorak: fly back out there again.
Adam Curry: There's nothing more fun than hanging out with with
747 captains because we could have learned a few things I'm
sure. So tailwinds guys, thank you very much. Sorry, we missed
each other. And that is it for executive and Associate
Executive producers for episode 1615. These credits are real,
which means they're recognized anywhere credits are recognized
at all, which of course, is Hollywood. But it's very
impressive on your resume, you can stick it right there on your
LinkedIn profile or open up if you don't have one already, an
IMDB profile. imdb.com. Unlike the douchebags in Hollywood, if
anyone questions, the validity, or what you did, as a producer,
or executive producer will vouch for you, let us know we'll take
care of you. And thank you again for supporting no agenda show
1615. John's going to take us through the 50s and I'll get our
meetups
John C Dvorak: began by saying the total number of donations
over 50 Today is 29. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's not a lot. We have a million people who
listen,
John C Dvorak: we have a million well, almost a million people
missing nine or 1000. And we have 29,000 on the mailing list,
which means and the mailing list alone, one out of 10,000 people
contributed to the show and you know well done
Adam Curry: everybody. Thanks for that. Of 10,000 Well, how
you doing all that value from I guess good one out of 10,000
sends us something thanks. love my job and I love my truck.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay. I will redo the math is one out of
1000 but it's still low. Mary Rochelle in bauxite. What a
great name for a ton they must have. I'm guessing there's
aluminum. Bauxite, Arizona, Arkansas. 121 13 And there's a
birthday there's a switcheroo birthday call for Alex or
Rochelle Rochelle. And he needs a biscuit for
Adam Curry: his birthday. Well, not just the biscuit for the
birthday. Isn't there a deducing in there as well? I thought is
there I think so.
Unknown: You've been d do they
always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
John C Dvorak: Okay, Elizabeth Gunther or Gunther? Probably
Gunther in Texas. Round Rock, Texas. 100. Michael Butler's San
Francisco guest Michael buck. Rock'n'roll geek
Adam Curry: show, baby.
John C Dvorak: That's right. And he says he's no longer a
douchebag you have to do Sheesh.
Unknown: De douche to
Adam Curry: me. I note that this January he will be inducted into
the podcast Hall of Fame. He will chess and rightly so. He is
one of the Oh geez. Way back. He's definitely been doing it
forever. Rock'n'roll geek show. Michael Butler. Thank you very
much brother.
John C Dvorak: Sir Bryce said I should go visit you know he's
I've been to his house. He's it's a very interesting part of
town.
Adam Curry: You use herbicides. You used to get beef together.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: we used to actually, we were well we bought
also bought a pig together. And I think it was a pig that were
the story. He tells the story because I couldn't I was doing I
think I was working on this show. He went out to the to the
auction. And it was either a cow or a pig. But whatever it was,
the story is, is he went to the auction. And he he bought a pig.
He bought the animal but he was a low bid. And not only was it a
low bid, he got the thing. Cheap. We had it butchered and
three legs. No, no, it was a fine animal. But the thing was
that he had to mention that the little girl who sold the animals
and in tears and and he kind of thought that was kind of fun.
Adam Curry: And then when did you drop him as a friend? You
just just said that we've dropped him as a friendly I'm
not calling you
John C Dvorak: in now. Now we somehow he got into butchering,
and I haven't really talked to him since
Adam Curry: he was actually he was doing meats for dogs. Oh
John C Dvorak: yeah. And actually says we now own a
kennel.
Adam Curry: Like they should get in touch with them.
John C Dvorak: I think but I think Butler should provide the
treats. I agree. Okay, I'll get a hold of them because Brian
Tobias and and Gardner, Kansas eight D 808. And Kevin
McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina 808 And he says boobs
are the original stress balls. Curiously, he's with this
donation saying was so short, that he's right up against it
was so 606 And he doesn't have a comment on that. 606 donation.
Daniel Mudge, Fairborn, Ohio 606, Baron of BNA in Nashville,
Tennessee. 5993 submode paths in memory Louisiana to D 510.
Adam Curry: A nice note, let me just read this, because this
just shows you how this has value. And we got value back.
Thank you. I've been dealing with serious medical emergencies
with my elderly parents in September 30. I was listening to
the global donut episode in the hospital today and laughed for
the first time all month listening to you and Adam break
down NPR. Thank you. Thank you.
John C Dvorak: Global donut. Paul have Rev. Re. Paul growth
rigged. And for Greg den Hill, frozen Hill. Yeah, I'm sure he
doesn't pronounce it that way in Madison, Wisconsin, but he did
contribute 55 Garis or jerris Corporation. I think it's Garis.
I don't know. Arlington, Virginia. 53. He's a job karma
for the circus of the pike and we'll put that at the end.
Cameron. Cameron Linga in North Branch Minnesota nuts 5161 Bad
idea supply. And for some reason, we don't know where they
are anymore. $50.50 And now we have a loved idea, by the way a
bad idea supply. William Kidwell in Dover, Delaware. 50. These
are all 50s Just the name and location. We're going to wrap
this up. Quickly. George was shot in love hernia, Texas, cat
pet chiropractic PLLC and Capek Michigan. Check them out if your
backs out. Paul DuBois in can occur conch, Kerr hongxin New
York William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas Nadia borg
in San Marcos, California, Steven Chu make in Xenia, Ohio.
Michelle petty in Grand Forks, North Dakota, and Margarita
ended hood in orange Vale, California. And that wraps our
donation segment up for show 1615 next show 1616 That should
give you some ideas.
Adam Curry: Yeah, will it give us some ideas?
John C Dvorak: I can't think of any.
Adam Curry: Now I have a this is a second winner of the indie na
meet up email. No, ma'am. I'm just gonna read this because I'm
not sure what the back office wants me to do. But there's a
whole bunch of raffle winners and their donations are coming.
So oh, this is from John Jones. I'll read it. Oh, hey, Adam. And
John. Just want to thank Adam and the keeper for coming to the
Indianapolis meetup. I was one of the lucky winners of the
raffle for an executive producer level donation. So he wasn't
unlisted. I was he.
John C Dvorak: But there was somebody on the list from there.
We have to make these. This has to be consolidated. We can't
stretch out one meet up over 10 shows.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, especially because I don't see
it here. So well. It'll be in for Thursday. So John, yeah,
it'll be in for Thursday, I guess. Yeah. Because all those
are Executive Associate Executive Producer levels. So
that will work that out. John Jones will work it out. Don't
worry about it. Thank you very much to our execs, our Associate
Executive producers and of course, everybody who came in
under $50 For reasons of anonymity, or perhaps you're on
one of the sustaining donations they really help during donation
days like this, when it's you know, the total is 29 above 50.
You can do any type of number you want. You can do you know
something periodic once every week, once every show day. Just
make it something recurring. We're very appreciative. You can
find out more about that at no agenda donations.com or
vora.org/in as requested jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.
Adam Curry: And thank you again for everybody who supported us
here for the no agenda Show episode 1650 Our
Unknown: formula is this. We go out we get people in the mouth
Adam Curry: and now I understand why that was on the list. Why
that? John Jones donation was there because he has a birthday
and he wishes his human resource Desmond a happy birthday who
turned one year old on December 6. Baron or BNA wishes his
smokin hot wife Jessica a good one, and that good one took
place or takes place tomorrow. are on the 11th and Marie
Rochelle wishes her brother Alex Rachele, a happy birthday we say
happy birthday from everybody. Here's the best podcast in the
universe. We have one Dame and we have two nights so that'll be
a nice blade here for them if you oh our careful. There we go.
Murray Rocio Aaron Brzezinski and Garrett Hampton all up on
the podium all three of you are about to become game and Night
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agenda show No one sat down
we have a couple of meetup reports. The first one is this
is the second annual holiday meet up Gore melts. Hi,
Unknown: I'm Alex Maga macaroni and cheese cheddar mouth and to
gather at gar mouths hi this is Marshall coming to you 60 miles
south of spook Central. We thank you for your courage in the
morning. This is Dame trill chicken here look here's the
deal I'm on the offensive life is a scam in the morning is
robbed from Richmond.
This is their from Richmond. I've
got ants in the morning another Chris from King George. This is
Roger rowdy. Stop the hammering round Dave Starkweather. Happy
to be here. We're protecting?
Adam Curry: Yes, Tom Starkweather. And his much
better half Alex and the whole crew there and spoke Central.
Thank you all very much. Here's the five fort first Thursday
meet up report. All right. This is Sir Matt with the five forks
first Thursday. No agenda meet up in the morning to you. Hey,
this
Unknown: is Gary. My wife didn't want to come but she's curious
what this is about. So when I get home, I'm going to give her
the whole load
in the morning and thank you for your courage and we're not
drinking seltzer.
Hey, this is Joe. I'm just trying not to get roasted.
Hey, this is Drew it's my first meetup and everybody has a tiny
amygdala and I love it.
Don't eat me Joe Biden, you scary so scary day.
Adam Curry: And of course we'll have that six minute what you're
thankful for meetup report from Indianapolis. Of course. Besides
that, we got the Cuf or RSV or Zika or Ebola whatever it is
pick your choice. We had a great time and we really love all you
guys out there it was it was a lot of fun. We have one meet up
happening to know on Thursday nothing today on the 14th the
Mile High meet up 630 Mountain Time Lincoln's Roadhouse in
Denver, Colorado, and up until Christmas let's see Gloucester,
Virginia, Epping, New Hampshire, Fort Worth Texas, Cincinnati,
Lansdale, Pennsylvania, Los Angeles, Columbus, Longview,
Texas, Alpharetta, Georgia, North Carolina Sofia, Sofia,
Bulgaria Hello, Sofia, I do want a report from you. After
Christmas, Indonesia Lombok, which is next to Bali on the
28th Hayward, Wisconsin, the Virgin Islands towards Tortola
Tortola Virgin Islands. I'll be on Jordan Cola, Tortola on on
the first nice, Denver, Colorado Fort Wayne, Indiana
Indianapolis, Indiana Oh, to spread it out by a week luckily.
And Albany, California that's the get John out of the house
meet up and Anna, Texas on the eighth which will be for the big
solar eclipse. Those are just the meetups that I have listed.
There's many more no agenda meetups.com one of those great,
no agenda producer actually night Daniel, manage and set up
that whole website, which is much better than meet ups.com
which we were using back in the day. So it's no agenda ups.com
Wait until you hear the wonderful human resources or end
of show MCS and what they were thankful for. I think that when
you hear that you will say yes, this is a group so diverse. If
every Meetup is like that I need to be at one and you know what
you do? It's the perfect companion to your no agenda
podcast. Go to no agenda meetups.com If you can't find a
meet up near you start one yourself. It's easy and always a
party to go hang out with Dyson day. You won't be triggered
everybody feels the same and I love what I do. That's the one.
That's the one.
John C Dvorak: I only have one eye so oh
Adam Curry: goodness. Okay
shall I play it? No.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I might as well. What's a holiday?
Adam Curry: Nice fry. What's a holiday? That's pretty good. Let
me see what I have. That's a wow. Mm hmm. And if you love
America, you throw money in its hole.
John C Dvorak: You throw money what in this hole? Disgusted is
I don't wear crocs wear Speedos.
Adam Curry: That's an ISO. That's a nice oh, if I ever
heard one.
John C Dvorak: I would say, Well, I think there's a toss up
there we have between ankle fry.
Adam Curry: Yes. On vocal fry. What the hell is that? Yeah. And
then that's a wow, I
John C Dvorak: think the WoW is better. Really? I
Adam Curry: was gonna say the vocal fry actually,
John C Dvorak: well used the vocal fry.
Adam Curry: I think I think that's a little bit better. Let
me let me just listen to it again. What's the whole is that
is put is this gray fry is a decent fry. To good fry. Let me
see what time is it? It's almost that time? I would say it is
that time. So it's time What time is it? You know, it's the
time it's, you know, it's the thing, man, it's the time what
time is everyone saying? Well, it's the time and now it's time
for Google. GCD good news, the JCD This is how we end every
single show these days. To get you in a good mood and feeling
great for the few days in between shows. Because we know
the world can be tough. If you don't have your media
deconstructors right next to you all the time to hold your hand.
So good news will put you in the right mood. What do you have for
good news, John?
John C Dvorak: One of the another animal story.
Adam Curry: Oh, this good news. Here we
Unknown: go. Our feel good. Friday starts with a
heartwarming story out of October hung county a Courageous
Cat is reunited with his family after he was missing for two
years. Three years this sticks the ActiveHybrid County Humane
Society shared how this incredible feline found his way
home. It's all thanks to a microchip. This is a small
device implanted under a pet's skin carrying vital information
like contact details. It became fish sticks ticket back to his
family after a long separation. The Animal Shelter says this
story highlights the importance of microchipping your Furbabies
a simple act can make miracles like this one happen.
A good news story from JCD happy vibes for me and we all feel
better now he's done his bit. To back to reality that's turning
to shit. Beautiful.
Adam Curry: Beautiful, John, that was beautiful, man. I
really loved it. Nothing like a cat story of furbaby
John C Dvorak: disappear for two years and they're talking about
great These chips are when they get the cat back home like you
know within a month.
Adam Curry: Cat didn't want to go home. Cats like no, you name
this dicks.
John C Dvorak: fish sticks.
Adam Curry: That's the problem. Don't name your name and give me
a K give me an animal a good name. People don't do anything
like that. All right, time for me to hit the anvil. But here's
your real good news. We'll be back on Thursday with another
JAM PACKED episode full of media deconstruction to help you get a
better view of your world which is distorted by those douchebags
and mainstream media. And many alternative media turns out
these days can't trust your podcast anymore. It's getting
crazy. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country
here in FEMA Region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain
I'm Jhansi Dvorak coming
Adam Curry: up next, I know agenda stream.com Troll room.io
And on the modern podcast apps, our buddy nick the rat with
episode 415 from the sewer. And remember we got our nd thank
yous coming up right now until next time, remember us at the
borak.org/na in the morning everybody a hui Hui and adios
mofos
Unknown: Hello, this is de Maria and this is Sir Mark at a super
amazing meetup. We are so thankful for the wonderful tribe
we have here and especially from Adam and Tina joining us today.
Merry Christmas everyone
Gary from Greenwood and I'm thankful for obviously my health
my family, my friends. and no agenda podcast and friends
Shannon
visiting from Fort Wayne is that climate change in your pocket?
Are you happy to see us we are thankful for too many eggs.com
This Mike from Fort Wayne I'm thankful for Tito and and have
him and doing the no agenda podcast and all the producers
that make it happen may very well be the secret to saving
this nation.
This is Damon baseball from Indianapolis and I'm thankful
for amazeballs This
is Mike the POLYMATH from Westfield, Indiana and I'm
grateful for podcasts check mine out easy peasy podcast.
Hi this is Sir Robert and I'm so grateful for the podcasting 2.0
project. Thank you Adam has served PBR streaking thank you
in the morning John and Adam and I'm most thankful for the Advent
season in
the morning Dame Trinity having a great time so thankful for all
the people that showed up and for served PBR street gang for
36 years. It was Guzman
in the Midwest from Branzburg. Indiana I'm most thankful for no
agenda nation
Dame Cindy of the Tito's from Carmel, Indiana. Thank you for
your courage.
Hi Tim John and Adam daughter from Indianapolis and I am
thankful for my mother
five syrup of the maple that's syrup of the Bible with a K and
I'm thankful for in the morning, sir Ted
from Indianapolis and I am forever grateful for my partner
of 40 years my wife named Marina del of the snickerdoodles who
wishes she could be here rather than being at home or recovering
from knee replacement surgery. I love you though to be Ryan
de Blasio from Fishers Indiana. I am most thankful for my
laughing wife and two human resources
sir Larry here from Columbus, Ohio and I am thankful for
Central Ohio meetups going on a year and a half
Michelle from Broad Ripple thankful for my family. We are
five generation strong
sir scoops coming up from Cincinnati on mountain dead I'm
most thankful for the banter between two dudes keeping us
sane for 16 years please pirate This is douchebag Nate from
Cincinnati, Ohio on the top of mountain dead I'm most grateful
for my partner in crime Baron scoops and our construction of
the dead verse
April Kyle Carmel, Indiana and I am thankful that we are not
locked down and we are here gathered together
in the morning. This is Dave The broke air traffic controller.
I'm most thankful for my job that I can not only drink party
and smoke on the weekends but also while on duty in
the morning. This is the anonymous controller from
Franklin, Indiana and I am also thankful for my job as an air
traffic controller. Now let's get these drinks going. I gotta
be at work by 10 This is John John Smith cordial Indiana I am
thankful for my human resource Desmond who's 21 year old and
two days this is Jared from Greenwood and this Wednesday I
have dinner with a foam finger executive. This is Sir Brian
with an AI from Austin, Texas and I am thankful for my AI and
generated girlfriend. Hi I'm Jane Karen and I'm so Bradley
from the Lagrange Kentucky we're thankful for each other and for
the best Destiny universe. This
was Raymond H from hold Michigan.
Glad to be down here.
And indeed I am thankful that I have not had to eat the bugs
yet.
John from Vincennes, Indiana and I'm grateful for no agenda.
Hello I'm Joshua kromm from Carmel, Indiana and I'm most
thankful for my sobriety
anarcho Daniel from Indianapolis, Indiana. I'm most
grateful for my smokin hot wife, Riley
stone, Indianapolis, Indiana and I'm most grateful for my
parents.
I'm Reagan I'm from Indianapolis and I'm most grateful for my
siblings and my parents.
My name is Keith stone from Indianapolis and I'm thankful
for my family. My name is Macy I'm from Indianapolis and I'm
thankful for Christmas school curd bottler or single scholar
from South Bend Indiana grateful my parents are still alive. Hi,
I'm Chris Keller and from Streamwood, Illinois, and I'm
most grateful for my health my family and having the
opportunity to be retired and enjoy
it in the morning. My name is Leisha. I'm from Carmel,
Indiana, and I am most thankful for my job my boyfriend and just
being a good place in life
sir Ohio blood from now Ohio and I'm thankful for Adam and Tina
and
I'm the blog Sheila Rebecca man so playdough from Ohio also and
I'm thankful for my faith and
my family. Hello, this
is Sir Mikey boss,
the Irish Catholic center in town from Evansville. I am most
grateful for my reversion to the faith and 2017 and for being
here among the no agenda tribe.
I'm Sean. I'm Carrie.
We're from Avon, Indiana, and we're thankful for being here.
Hi,
I'm Karen and I'm from the region aka St. John Indiana and
I'm thankful for the hobby the family and the smarts to know
when to resist
or Jake Madison Indiana most thankful for SPECO sir Trent
from Zionsville Indiana and I'm most thankful for six fingered
AI women John from Bloomington thankful that Bitcoin isn't
quite to 200,000 because Adam is still podcasting. Paul O'Connor
from Bloomington Indiana thankful to have all you guys
with me. Hey, this
is Kristen from Bloomington and I am thankful for carbon credits
my family and the best podcast in the universe. This
is Joe driver says student the quarter from Zionsville and I'm
thankful for my smokin hot wife Nicole
Brittany Shavers Zionsville, Indiana
I am also thankful for Joe's smokin hot wife Nicole. Hey,
this is Connor slush neroca from Arcadia, Indiana. I'd say what
I'm most grateful for would be my family. both the natural and
the no agenda family. This is Kyle
from Zionsville, Indiana. I'm grateful for my amazing parents
who follow me and my wife all the way to Zionsville from
Florida.
I'm Steve shaver. I'm from Zionsville, Indiana and I'm
thankful for two friends that have opened up and independent
health surgery center that are breaking the mold. I'm Nicole
Molinero from Zionsville, Indiana and I'm thankful for God
and critical thinkers
in the morning. I'm Sam from Paris, France, and I'm most
grateful for all my friends here in Indianapolis. This is Sir
becoming heroic from shareable Indiana and I'm thankful that I
never had to partake in the jab. Hi,
I'm Brett from Carmel and I'm most thankful for my
relationship with Jesus Christ. This is Sir spooky from Chicago,
Illinois.
I am most thankful for
all of the caretakers out there. My name is Rory from Detroit and
this Christmas season I'm most thankful for long live family
members and long friendships. Andrea
diazo from Fishers Indiana here with my smoking hot husband and
I am thankful for him and my two human resources.
This is Anthony seven vike out of Hamilton from Westfield,
Indiana and I am most grateful for our Lord and Savior Jesus
Christ sir Craig of the dark Boone from Westfield, Indiana.
I am most thankful for my smokin hot wife. Hi, this
is Dame Amy of the shining sun from Westfield, Indiana and I'm
most grateful for my smokin hot
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thankful for the birth of my Lord and Savior Victoria Nuland.
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