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John C Dvorak: They are freaked
out. Adam curry Jhansi Devorah

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Adam Curry: 2023 This is your
award winning nation media

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assassination episode 1613. This
is no agenda, watching.

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broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here

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in FEMA Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where everybody's

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saying the same thing. Go
Niners. I'm John C. Dvorak.

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Unknown: Buzzkill.

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Adam Curry: Nobody's saying
that. Oh, yeah. Nobody cares

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about us all they say nobody's
watching football anymore. Have?

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John C Dvorak: So here's the
question for you. Oh, and ask

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Adam or just a regular old guy
just had Miss asking a random

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question. So I'm listening to
all these different shows. And I

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heard this on the rising and I
heard on different networks. And

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it goes on and on about the
death of Sandra Day O'Connor and

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Henry Kissinger, the two of them
and she's all she's the best.

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Yeah, Henry Kissinger was he's
the worry miss. He's the worst

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famous guy but he's the worst.
He killed millions. And he's a

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war criminal. Yes, sir. When was
this? When did he kill millet?

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When did he kill anybody?

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Adam Curry: though? Yeah. Well,

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John C Dvorak: why is he a war
criminal? What did he do it? Did

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he specifically do? Do you know?
Because I tried looking at it. I

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Adam Curry: do I do. He died
while being Jewish. at the wrong

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moment. This is the wrong
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That could be we need you know,
Ilan is kind of getting away

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with it. You know, he's like,
he's making problems for

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everybody. It's like, we need
another Jew to blame. There's no

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better Jew to blame that the
dead Jew who can't defend

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himself. Come on. It's obvious
anything to keep the genocide Jo

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stuff out of the way. Anything.
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everybody. This was this was
hilarious. This is Hillary

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Clinton. I even know where she's
walking. And there's protesters

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be up there they are the
Palestinian flags.

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Hillary, Hillary You can't hide
your supporting genocide.

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John C Dvorak: What did Hillary
do exist?

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Adam Curry: It just existed
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John C Dvorak: I mean, it's not
even Jewish that I know. No,

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Adam Curry: but but she's super
listen. This is so off the hook.

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This is exactly the
counterbalance we needed in the

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world to have any of the people
who have been abused by the

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elites, namely children for the
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they don't know what to do. And
now this is so beautiful.

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Turkish radio and television
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they got these cute young women
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on their the Turkish Radio
Television homepage, these

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videos are filmed in portrait
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for tick tock but they don't
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try and get them to go viral.
And this is the kind of what you

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thought Elon Musk was, was had a
problem No, no, no, no.

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Unknown: Oh are famous global
brands involved in Israel's war

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on Palestine Gaza, these brands
directly helps the Israeli

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economy and Israel economy is
the fuel that feeds its military

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and allows it to bomb Gaza and
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the Palestinian people.

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Adam Curry: So the idea is these
brands. Because they do business

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in or with Israel, they are
fueling the genocide. The

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Unknown: world's leading brands
reach nearly every household

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around the globe. It is
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which at least one of these
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Alone, these three companies
earn more than $200 billion

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Procter and Gamble has been part
of the Israel market since 2001.

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Procter

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Adam Curry: and Gamble has
almost all they've been part of

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the Procter and Gamble is a what
we call an F M. C. G, fast

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moving consumer goods company.
Yeah, paper towels soap. Bah,

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no, they're fueling they're
fueling the genocide. Now.

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Unknown: They have gained
attention with a significant

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multi million dollar investments
in Israeli medical companies and

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research centers. This brand is
so popular in Israel that it is

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found in 98% of Israeli
households, famous luxury brand

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we return. They invested
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diamond production companies,
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Adam Curry: I didn't know that
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cornerstone of the Israeli
economy. Did you know that?

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John C Dvorak: think he did a
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Unknown: they are linked to the
sale of Israeli ahava products

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that are produced in the
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territories. The owner of Louis
Vuitton is known for having made

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significant investments in
Israel's security companies

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amounting to hundreds of
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Adam Curry: of dollars. We
futon, Louie, you're a problem.

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Unknown: Next up is hp.
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in addition to supplying
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and police, HP,

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Adam Curry: Microsoft is next.
I'm telling you, anything if you

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do business with Israel, you're
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John C Dvorak: I'm gonna give a
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this, okay? Because there's
something suspicious about the

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way this is being done. And the
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I was watching little previews
of some new football and they

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brought cut to a Bud Light
commercial. In the Bud Light

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commercials a bar full of dudes
headed with Peyton Manning, the

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old time spokesperson for ex
football players, Emmitt Smith

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and some other hot shots. They
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fortune, he goes to the bar
orders Bud Light. And he says,

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I'll tell you what, let's have
Bud Light for the whole bar. So

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you buy the bar and Peyton
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the Kate with the cam, which
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he's going to end this but they
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of money to do this. And this,
all of this is going to result

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in heavy advertising to make up
for the bad press. This seems

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almost like it's orchestrated by
the media itself to extract more

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money from these poor companies
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Adam Curry: Interesting. Yeah,
yeah. It's the what's the the

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opposite of UFC, the Dana
White's outfit? Yeah, they also

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have a huge, like 100 million
dollar deal or something with

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
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certainly get back on track. And
that's going to be the same

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proctor going after Procter and
Gamble. I mean, who's really

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behind this? This means they're
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Adam Curry: Okay, I'll take your
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certainly jumping on it. But
Hillary Clinton can't

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John C Dvorak: do something if
your brand has been be

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submerged. Here you go. What can
you do about you can go to the

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editors and say, Hey, you guys
are hurt our feelings. You know,

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we didn't do anything wrong. We
just do the stories the way they

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go here. Once you talk to this
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Adam Curry: This guy is brown
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He'll take care of you. I take
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that as a fair point. Fair
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start today because it dawned on
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speak at COP 28. And I know you
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I'm going to lead you into them
that all this the World Economic

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Forum, they're gonna do the
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These guys there, get it. I
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cop 28 Or if it's going to be
cop 29. But they are coming for

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you. They are coming for your
money. They're coming with a

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global carbon tax. They're
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global financial system. Their
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there getting closer and it kind
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something you won't hear at the
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Klaus Schwab. Give me a break.
Now when when you address this

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audience like this, Your

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Unknown: Highness, Secretary
General, Your Majesty is your

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royal highnesses, presidents,
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Adam Curry: ratul your jewels
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Unknown: I would like to extend
our that's a great

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Adam Curry: clip. Because I mean
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make stuff happen. They make
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John C Dvorak: call you and your
royal highness. Yes, yes, your

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Adam Curry: Excellency

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Unknown: ministers ladies and
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extend my heartfelt gratitude to
His Highness Sheikh Mohammed bin

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Zayed. I'm not sure

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Adam Curry: this is not you
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until until the 70s. You know,
they were better when sheep

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farmers have now Oh, Your
Highness Your royalty. Thank you

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Unknown: so much for his warm
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the opening of cop 28. Eight
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be asked to speak at the opening
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touched, which of course
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Agreement. A landmark moment of
hope and optimism. When nations

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put differences to one side for
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my hearts that cop 28 will be
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towards genuine transformational
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already, as scientists have been
warning for so long. Oh, we are

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seeing alarming tipping points
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John C Dvorak: points. Yes,
alarm by the way isn't. He says

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eight years ago, but isn't it
seven years ago when it's cop

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21. You have kept 21 and 22 to a
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by 727 years ago. It's not eight
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Adam Curry: Well, that's muted.
Okay. Who cares? Who can I do?

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Let's get to the music. They

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John C Dvorak: can't do the math
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or seven years? How can they
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Adam Curry: he does. You're
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trillion 5 trillion. small
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John C Dvorak: So companies in
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
This is coming. This is coming

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firmly at the table. What?

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John C Dvorak: I say yeah, it
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come yet. You can still fight
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Unknown: The international
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the innovative use of risk
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risk guarantees

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Adam Curry: stop. What

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John C Dvorak: is he talking
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Adam Curry: I looked it up with
that you did with tools, tools

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tools, like who's

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Unknown: like first loss risk
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Adam Curry: risk guarantees.
This is a type of insurance.

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First loss policy is a type of
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provides only partial insurance
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policyholder agrees to accept an
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of a damaged, destroyed or
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John C Dvorak: property. And
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Adam Curry: in return, the
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the policyholder for under
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property. So I'm not exactly
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exactly sure. But there's
something and we have enough

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boots on the ground people who
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using this insurance clear
insurance scam. By just don't

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know how it works yet, but
they're gonna use this somehow

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to soak everybody. They for him
to say this sums up.

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John C Dvorak: I agree. You
don't bring something like this

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in out of the blue to a
conference like this? And stated

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Unknown: Oh, yeah. We

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could mobilize the trillions of
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order of four and a half to 5
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Adam Curry: A year? A year? Four
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that? Isn't that the GDP of the
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where it's, I mean, it's is that
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John C Dvorak: entire GDP a
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Adam Curry: Well, it's let's get
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Unknown: how could we ensure
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developments are most essential
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Adam Curry: first of all, we set
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John C Dvorak: what she did
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Adam Curry: is a failed
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finance, we must meet the 100
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consistently delivered last year
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doing something here. It's about
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damage. It's first loss
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Adam Curry: 4 trillion No, no,
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team Europe is behind they must
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loss policy firm they're going
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dear friends I wish for a
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Adam Curry: There you go. We
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pricing so we can know exactly
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pollute then you will pay a tax
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that through the insurance
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and we steal it from you I
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are the evil people of the world
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we're so we've been so hammered
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Germany the as they're getting
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evidence that it was really
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regardless, cop 28 starts the
world is boiling and Munich sees

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sees 44 inches of snow which
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record snowfall the planes can
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Adam Curry: to more clips, and
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clips because I seen the title.
So I know more or less what

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you're going to do. The first
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something by the United Nations
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pronunciation of things. On
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Unknown: two at COP 28 in Dubai
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We cannot save a burning planet.
Here fire hose planet. You're

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missing the beauty action
continue. We cannot save a

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burning planet here firehose of
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Adam Curry: We cannot save a
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of fossil fuels. Fossil fuels is
what it is your fossil fuels

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transition to renewables.
renewables. The science is

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Adam Curry: science is clear.
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Adam Curry: burning the fossil
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going to stop with fossil fuels.
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annual climate summit. But on
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eat we're hating 30 countries,
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Adam Curry: can even hear the
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production more sustainable.
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food system is responsible for

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1/3 of greenhouse gas emissions
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overconsumption of industrially
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communities are a key part of
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deal. We don't know what it is,
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then we have our vice president
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queen, Ursula, you might as well
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climate science, delay climate
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misinformation podcasters
corporations that greenwash

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climate inaction and lobby for
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fuel subsidies in the face of
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context of this moment, we must
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here's also announced the US is
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Climate Fund. The International
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administration outline plans
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emissions. The CBC, Susan
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Adam Curry: I'm gonna stop it
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methane clips. So when that
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fossil fuels, fools fools, from
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John C Dvorak: in the
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you are in a deep state, you're
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let's go back to this nonsense
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Adam Curry: If I recall, there
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companies, there is a US
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big tax break? What is that? I
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an oil depletion allowance a tax
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that now my asset has become
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all the unsold all the oil,

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Adam Curry: you get to
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John C Dvorak: I don't know how
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Adam Curry: now is 275 for
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550. It's also an oil production
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Adam Curry: Wednesday, I'm
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I'll get a full breakdown of
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he has oil well. So that'll be
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benefit? He'll tell me. Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: I'll tell you.
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deal. I mean, that's one of the
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people to get this oil audit.
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Adam Curry: you, oil baron,
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John C Dvorak: So let's go to
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Unknown: the United Nations cop
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Vice President head HARRIS
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global fund to help poor nations
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the urgency of this moment is
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just ticking, it is banging, its
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lost time. And we must treat the
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existential threat that is truly

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Adam Curry: who says banging,
banging. The clock is banging,

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banging She's no she was very
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she said banking. I wanted to
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that banking? Banking banking is
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John C Dvorak: she's got that
she's had some she has some

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South Asian. Buried in there.
That's okay. All right. banking,

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banking, banking. Okay, we wrap
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wrap up. Okay. Was she going
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22 methane coming in. I have
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gotcha. I gotcha.

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aimed at getting methane
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Adam Curry: Okay, now methane
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of methane is burning off your
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talking about that in this case
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John C Dvorak: hard to say what
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refineries leaking. And
California's methane. No,

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they're not talking about the
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belches. It turns out Oh, okay.
Because they're ruminants and a

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gas is methane. They won't say
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saying methane, methane. So you
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stove on, you're mad leaking
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methane. Got it. That's natural
gases. 97% methane. So when this

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is a, this is a roundabout way,
this whole methane thing is a

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roundabout way. And I would say
a chickenshit way of getting rid

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of gas stoves, gas furnaces and
gas heaters. You know, it's a

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shame that Boone Pickens isn't
still alive because he was the

455
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big promoter of natural gas as
an alternative to to liquid

456
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petroleum products. And he would
throw a bunch of money at this

457
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nonsense and end it right now
because you can't do what they

458
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want to do without getting rid
of your gas stoves. So they

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don't want to talk about it.
Well, no. Gas No, Donna. No,

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this just trying to stop. This
is very nice. I guess this is

461
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not about gas.

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Adam Curry: This is very
interesting. This is a scam.

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Because the total scam anything
people are very aware of the war

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on gas stoves. You know, then

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John C Dvorak: everyone denies
it. No, no, no, we're not doing

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that. That's not true.

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Adam Curry: Yeah, but but now
they've just done a little

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switcheroo and they just call it
methane or dare I say methane in

469
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the UK. He has me say anything.
And but they're lying. They're

470
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lying. They're really saying No
more No more cheap energy

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because methane gas natural gas
is quite affordable. I think

472
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it's quite sick or am I not?
It's quite safe.

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John C Dvorak: Well in this it
accumulates in a house completed

474
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and in some of the lights a
match. It's a Yeah, it's safe.

475
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It's safe compared to around
been around for longer than

476
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hydrogen lessons.

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Adam Curry: Yes, I agree. All
right. So we have to get rid of

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it. Got it. So

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John C Dvorak: that but this is
this is exactly what you said

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it's a scam. And here we go. And
I just most this is the methane

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series. Now this is cop 28
methane one

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Unknown: at the cop 28 summit in
Dubai today. 50. Oil and gas

483
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companies representing about 40%
of global production pledged to

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reduce methane emissions to near
zero by 2030. Methane is a

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byproduct of oil and gas
production that can trap 80

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times as much heat as carbon
dioxide in the short term. The

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companies including industry
giants, like Exxon Mobil, shell

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and BP say they'll achieve this
by plugging leaks at their

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facilities and ending the
practice of burning off excess

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gas with flares. The same time
the Biden administration

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announced new rules to enforce
major elements of that agreement

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in this country.

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Adam Curry: Ah, there it is.
There's your war on gas stoves.

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John C Dvorak: Now a couple of
things in this clip. He says

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that ADT Muluzi at methane's at
x In terms of greenhouse gas

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emissions at x co2, yeah, but
how come this hasn't been

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addressed before? While it was
You were always talking about

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carbon, carbon, carbon, carbon
and referring to co2, co2 co2,

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which is a parts per million
thing in the atmosphere. It's

500
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hardly anything right. But they
keep talking about it. But

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meanwhile, methane, why now?
Doesn't

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Adam Curry: have very low carbon
dioxide emission? What I'm

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sorry, does burn, does burning
natural gas have a low as

504
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John C Dvorak: lower than
burning? Coal? Yeah, that's what

505
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T. Boone Pickens was always
doing. Always thought, yeah,

506
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Lauren Cole or a lot of

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Adam Curry: stuff. So it's not a
good narrative. And also, well,

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John C Dvorak: this ADX is a raw
This is raw methane going into

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the atmosphere, right. And then
then the East says that and they

510
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refineries are getting down to
refineries. One thing that's

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never mentioned is methane is a
product they sell as natural

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gas. They don't want it leaking
all over the place. They're

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giving away product. It's like,
it's like letting the wine

514
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barrel overfill and go into down
the sewer. Right? This is not

515
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what they want. So this is in
the best interests of the of the

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oil refineries to plug any leaks
there are so that so they're all

517
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always for that. So this is not
a concession by any means.

518
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Because they want to do this
because they're big lose money,

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otherwise, maybe so this is
bullcrap this narrative, well,

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how

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Adam Curry: about this? Or maybe
they're like, Yeah, that's good.

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Give us some more subsidies so
we can plug up.

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John C Dvorak: I believe that's
in the back.

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Adam Curry: Is there is there
also not an element of F Russia

525
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in all of this? Since Russia has
a lot of restaurant? Yes.

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John C Dvorak: I didn't think of
that. But that's obviously the

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case. Yeah. And so you have that
aspect. And the other thing is,

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is in in, the refiners are going
to try to stop flaring so much.

529
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Natural gas when it gets into
the system, and they had to get

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rid of it. They sent it to the
flare. But when it gets burned

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in the flare, it gets burned.
There's no natural gas coming

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off that flame. So that's bull
crap. And that's just bullcrap.

533
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I was just

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Adam Curry: just okay. laughter
Okay, Okay, gotcha. Okay. He's

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both practical.

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John C Dvorak: But again, I
think the whole thing is about

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the stoves but let's go with
methane too. Earlier,

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Unknown: I spoke with Fred
Krupp, the president of the

539
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Environmental Defense Fund, who
was at COP 28. I asked about

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what makes this deal so
important. John,

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I've been at this for a long
time. And in my 30 plus years of

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00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:34,080
doing this work, I don't think
we've ever had as good a day for

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the climate as we had today. We
had the US EPA announcing the

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strongest methane rules for the
oil and gas sector on the

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planet. Second, we had 50
companies representing 40% of

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global oil production, pledging
to virtually eliminate their

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methane pollution. And then
third, we saw an announcement

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from the US and China that
they've agreed to incorporate

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methane in the future into their
pledges internationally. And

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methane, John is 80 times more
powerful as a greenhouse gas

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than carbon dioxide pound for
pound in those first 20 years.

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And so reductions now that will
happen as a result of these

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three actions mean that storms
will be less ferocious, will be

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lower than they would otherwise
be over the next 10 years.

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Thanks to the actions that were
pledged today. Storms

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Adam Curry: will be less
ferocious at the weatherman

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John C Dvorak: over the next 10
years because it is one action

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which is meaningless as
meaningless action which isn't

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going to do jack until they get
rid of this stoves and heaters.

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But now, here's the problem.
They had like the hurricane

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season just ended. What was the
big massive hurricane on the

562
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East Coast that took out like
half of a state and killed

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00:33:52,830 --> 00:33:56,370
millions. was the big storm this
year. Yeah, carry

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Adam Curry: on. Well, there was
a bad storm on the little piece

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00:34:00,210 --> 00:34:04,410
of Florida on the Gulf side,
interestingly. But it didn't

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take out millions. It

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John C Dvorak: wasn't like the
big stores. We'd like Katrina.

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No, no, which was, if you
recall, when Katrina happened,

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this was going to be the
standard of excellence every

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year and it's gonna get worse
and worse. What was this year's

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big storm was that little storm
you're talking about? But this

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was

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Adam Curry: this is the problem.
The problem is people don't look

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at history. They're not taught
history. They're told to just

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oh, just listen, listen to me.
Listen to me, this is the worst

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and it's coming from our so
called leaders so people go

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00:34:34,649 --> 00:34:37,829
okay, because people have other
things to do like figure out how

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00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:39,719
to pay the rent. Now

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John C Dvorak: let's go back to
this guy and he has commentary.

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This is right here. What he said
is meaningless methane bull

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00:34:47,580 --> 00:34:52,620
crap. In which isn't going to do
jack is going to be used as

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00:34:52,620 --> 00:34:55,620
well. We says we passed this
this is the big deal. We passed

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it a cup 28 and looked at we
didn't have so many hurricanes

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is already starting to clear up
a little bit they need because

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the cycle that the weather
cycles based on sunspots is, is

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00:35:05,220 --> 00:35:07,950
switching on to the other one's
going down the other way. And

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they've got to come up with some
reason quick, a quick, real

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00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:15,600
quick fix. And this guy just
told you what it was.

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Adam Curry: They need the quick
fix so they can then take credit

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00:35:19,470 --> 00:35:24,720
for it. Yeah, see, storms are
less temperatures coming down

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days to us. We foam finger
number one, everybody. That's

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right. So we can predict in 10
years, that everything will be

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much calmer. It'll be cold, it'd
be cold, it's gonna be cold.

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It's gonna get cold, right?
We're gonna get very cold,

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everybody. Maybe, maybe, maybe
that's what King Charles meant

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00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:46,830
by tipping point where the
tipping point people, tipping

597
00:35:46,830 --> 00:35:49,380
points, your tipping point and a
tipping point is that

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00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:52,320
temperatures are going down?
Everything's going down? Because

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with the sun cycle, what is it?
What cycle is I forget that they

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00:35:56,700 --> 00:36:00,060
they number them? Every 11
years? It goes to the to the Sun

601
00:36:00,060 --> 00:36:02,790
cycle. I know what is a ham
operator, you know these things?

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So that we're going down to the
bottom of the cycle? I think we

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have two more years left and
then it's over. And then well,

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00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,650
we did it. We did it everybody.
We're in Africa now send us our

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trillions in he was in

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00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:18,180
John C Dvorak: his or trillion
so we can make sure we don't do

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we don't backtrack. Exactly.
Okay, methane, three. And

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Unknown: is this a long term
solution to the problem? Is this

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a sort of short term quick fix?

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Well, we have to both do methane
to reduce temperatures in the

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short term, and we cannot stop
working. In fact, we have to

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accelerate our work on
eliminating carbon dioxide. The

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oil and gas industry took this
one step. But they have to do a

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lot more than this, we have to
move away from laughing Reliance

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or dependency on fossil. Let's
listen again, the oil and gas

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industry took this one step. But
they have to do a lot more than

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this. We have to move away from
reliance or dependency on fossil

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fuels as quickly as we can. But
while we're still using them, we

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have to eliminate this very
powerful greenhouse gas method.

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Adam Curry: Okay, so from the
National Weather Surface,

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Surface service surface

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Unknown: surface mirror surface
surface, we

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Adam Curry: are two years away
from the top of Sun solar cycle

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25. The peak will be expected
solar maximum July 2025. So

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00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:39,570
there's that's the peak of solar
cycle 25. So that's, that's why

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the hurry up.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, buy some
panicky thing we can do. Yeah.

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All right, here we go. Is the
last of these clips, this

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Unknown: agreement is voluntary.
The oil companies have to do

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what they what they promised to
do. And a lot of environmental

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00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,990
groups don't like that. They
said there's no accountability

632
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mechanism or guarantee the
companies will follow through.

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What do you say to that.

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But I think it's good to be
skeptical of pledges at the COP.

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A lot of pledges that have been
made at this Conference of the

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Parties year after year aren't
delivered on in this particular

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pledge. We structured it to have
accountability built in. So the

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oil and gas companies are
agreeing to report their

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emissions by monitoring,
monitoring them and then sending

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them to an international
independent third party. In

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00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,670
addition to that, the Bloomberg
Philanthropies today announced a

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00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:39,780
major $25 million gift to not
only the Environmental Defense

643
00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:43,890
Fund, but it will stand up and
accountability partnership that

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00:38:43,890 --> 00:38:48,360
will make data transparent. And
so we'll be able to see exactly

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00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,420
who is meeting this pledge and
who's not.

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Adam Curry: So oh, I've heard it
four times. Now the

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Environmental Defense Fund.

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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's this
guy. He's the head of it.

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Adam Curry: But is this well? Is
that a global thing?

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00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:08,490
John C Dvorak: I think to
American seems like 9013 C,

651
00:39:08,490 --> 00:39:08,910
whatever it

652
00:39:08,910 --> 00:39:12,540
Adam Curry: is, seems like it's
New York based. Might be founded

653
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in 1967. So yeah, that's good.
Yeah, it

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John C Dvorak: was founded
during the it was that was

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founded at if I'm not mistaken.
The Environmental Defense Fund

656
00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:27,270
was founded during the heyday of
anti pollution, real pollution,

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Ed evety

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00:39:30,090 --> 00:39:32,490
Adam Curry: 1967, a group of
scientists formed the

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organization sets out to ban
DDT.

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John C Dvorak: Oh, is the DDT?
That's right, it was a DDT that

661
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came out of Rachel Carson's best
seller, Silent Spring, which had

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which is really about DDT,

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00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,320
Adam Curry: that and then in
1970, it was efforts to ban

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whale hunting. Remember that
one? Which was an attack on

665
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:57,900
Japan as far as I can remember?
Yeah, horrible Japanese Japanese

666
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killing whales. Um, I got this
one minute 22 second clip. I got

667
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this from, and it's a brief
history. Like, before

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John C Dvorak: you go, I wanted
to comment on the less. Yeah. So

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this I just wanted this as a
refinery story having worked at

670
00:40:17,610 --> 00:40:23,250
a refinery in the lab and I this
is I don't think they're evil by

671
00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:27,180
any means. I like refiners. I
think they're all great, but I'm

672
00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:32,520
just this is the way reporting
goes, we have to do a monthly

673
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,210
coliform test of the effluent
that comes off of the refinery,

674
00:40:36,690 --> 00:40:40,260
water supply, and it goes and
you get a sample and you do this

675
00:40:40,530 --> 00:40:44,220
blood test. And it's for it's
called coliform. And it's a type

676
00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:47,460
of bacteria. It's a bacterial
test. And if it shows up, that

677
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:50,100
means you got contamination in
the water that's going into the

678
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:55,170
San Francisco Bay. And it would
go like this. And it which means

679
00:40:55,170 --> 00:40:57,360
there's sewage, and there's I
don't know how it even gets in

680
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,400
there, but it will get in there.
And it's a little elaborate test

681
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,260
is kind of a pain in the ass.
It's got nothing to do with the

682
00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:07,170
refinery at all, but you have to
do this test. So you do the

683
00:41:07,170 --> 00:41:10,380
test. And you do this test once
a month, I think as I recall,

684
00:41:10,770 --> 00:41:13,260
and you do the test once a month
and you do the test and it goes

685
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:18,120
oh shit, we got coliform. And
then you go, well, or somebody

686
00:41:18,210 --> 00:41:24,480
somebody says, Okay, we'll do
the test tomorrow. Yeah,

687
00:41:25,260 --> 00:41:27,930
yesterday came out, okay. Okay,
send that one in.

688
00:41:28,170 --> 00:41:29,970
Adam Curry: Oh, you see, just
take whatever's handy.

689
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,540
John C Dvorak: This is you take
the test that passes. Nice. And

690
00:41:36,540 --> 00:41:39,930
that's how you do it. And I'm
not, no one's going to convince

691
00:41:39,930 --> 00:41:43,350
me that that's not the way it's
done everywhere by everybody.

692
00:41:43,350 --> 00:41:47,490
Because it's like bull crap test
to begin with. Because in fact,

693
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,730
you take the test every day of
the month, and it would be 90 or

694
00:41:50,730 --> 00:41:54,420
90 by the 25 days of no problem.
And then maybe it's a day in

695
00:41:54,420 --> 00:41:55,920
there. So it's kind of like
doesn't happen.

696
00:41:55,950 --> 00:42:01,680
Adam Curry: It's kind of like a
COVID test. So the Environmental

697
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,780
Defense Fund, indeed, a 501. C
three. Yeah. How much do you

698
00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:12,120
think they were given in 2022?
According to their form,

699
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:19,800
990 $100 million? How about 385
million? I have 452 million in

700
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,730
assets. You know, because they
play the stock market, of

701
00:42:23,730 --> 00:42:27,840
course. And their mission is to
build a vital Earth for

702
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:33,210
everyone. By leveraging
environment, oceans health,

703
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:37,620
environment, health, public
health, children, leveraging

704
00:42:37,620 --> 00:42:43,740
children. Fine. Here's a brief
history of this cop outfit

705
00:42:43,770 --> 00:42:48,510
because it started a long time
ago. And we're still not dead.

706
00:42:48,570 --> 00:42:49,830
Unknown: General Boutros Ghali,

707
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,940
the Earth Summit in Rio was the
first time that more than 100

708
00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:57,120
heads of states and governments
gathered together in one room to

709
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,660
talk climate, establishing
sustainable development as a

710
00:43:00,660 --> 00:43:04,080
basis for international
cooperation. At least in theory,

711
00:43:04,110 --> 00:43:08,160
the world is our garden, and
together, we must cultivate it.

712
00:43:08,850 --> 00:43:09,180
Five

713
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:13,020
years later, the Kyoto Protocol
was signed, develop countries

714
00:43:13,020 --> 00:43:15,660
pledged to reduce their
greenhouse gas emissions by at

715
00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:20,820
least 5% Compared to 1990
levels. One big problem the

716
00:43:20,820 --> 00:43:24,990
world's biggest emitters, the US
China and India were not bound

717
00:43:24,990 --> 00:43:31,320
by the text. In 2009, the aim of
cop 15 in Copenhagen was an

718
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:36,150
international agreement to fight
climate change. The US and China

719
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:39,840
helped draft a last minute joint
statement, it was not widely

720
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,850
adopted. The 2015 edition in
France was considered a

721
00:43:44,850 --> 00:43:48,660
resounding success. The Paris
Agreement was the first treaty

722
00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:51,090
to commit the entire
international community to the

723
00:43:51,090 --> 00:43:54,510
fight against climate change,
pledging to maintain the rise in

724
00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:58,230
the global average temperature
to quote well below two degrees

725
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,610
compared to pre industrial
levels. signatories also agreed

726
00:44:02,610 --> 00:44:06,600
to assess their efforts every
five years. Eight years on the

727
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,860
UN says much more must be done
to meet the goals set in Paris.

728
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,760
Adam Curry: So to just wrap this
part up, these are the real

729
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:21,030
people who are doing a an actual
slow, global reset. It is really

730
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:25,770
happening. They're going to
price carbon. Every action you

731
00:44:25,770 --> 00:44:28,680
take as a human being it'll
start with businesses, the

732
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,560
businesses, they get some deal
I'm sure this insurance scam

733
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,470
somehow work. Someone's going to
tell us how that works.

734
00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:39,510
Business, we'll get some
insurance. Now pay off, but

735
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:43,530
ultimately, it's going to come
from the individual humans that

736
00:44:43,530 --> 00:44:47,370
you travel, you're gonna be
charged for your poop. Yes. How

737
00:44:47,370 --> 00:44:49,650
much do you poop? That's right.
You're gonna be if you're a big

738
00:44:49,650 --> 00:44:52,830
pooper, then sorry, Anderson
Cooper is going to be poor in

739
00:44:52,830 --> 00:44:56,220
the future. As I was just going
to everything you do, there will

740
00:44:56,220 --> 00:45:00,120
be a climate tax. That's why
they're pricing carbon and We

741
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,900
only have to look from Texas a
little bit up to the north to

742
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:07,320
see that this is in play in
Canada. And it was a and they're

743
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,880
joking about it. Do you ever
Trudeau and Paul Revere the two

744
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,660
sides of the political spectrum,
laughing about it now the what?

745
00:45:15,690 --> 00:45:22,260
What happened here is they were
jamming a carbon tax into aid

746
00:45:22,260 --> 00:45:24,840
for Ukraine, I believe, have the

747
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,080
John C Dvorak: right and the
classic and the conservatism

748
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,000
Adam Curry: of now. No, we're
not. We're not going to. We're

749
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,490
not going to pass this without
thinking that but it's all just

750
00:45:32,490 --> 00:45:34,800
a big joke to them, denialism

751
00:45:34,980 --> 00:45:37,650
Unknown: of the Conservative
Party of Canada is putting

752
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,250
future white Christmases at
risk. And that's why

753
00:45:42,570 --> 00:45:46,650
Adam Curry: this is my favorite.
Dude. They've been writing since

754
00:45:46,650 --> 00:45:49,020
2000. We weren't supposed to
have white Christmas and

755
00:45:49,020 --> 00:45:52,710
certainly not in the UK. But
okay. You are threatening White

756
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:53,430
Christmas.

757
00:45:53,790 --> 00:45:57,540
Unknown: Future White Christmas
is at risk. And that's why on

758
00:45:57,540 --> 00:45:58,380
this side of the house

759
00:46:06,570 --> 00:46:08,790
John C Dvorak: clown show to
clown show.

760
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,920
Unknown: Leader the opposition,
Mr. Speaker that has to be the

761
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,770
angriest and most cost to
Christmas message.

762
00:46:27,870 --> 00:46:30,570
This is a guy he hasn't faced
though. Cool. Despite his

763
00:46:30,810 --> 00:46:33,390
theatrics over there, Mr.
Speaker, what he's doing is

764
00:46:33,390 --> 00:46:37,920
phasing out food because
Canadians can't afford it. Now

765
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,210
as he raises carbon taxes on the
wonderful farmers that bring us

766
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:46,470
bring it to our table. Why won't
he axe the tax on farmers so

767
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:50,010
that Canadians can eat heat and
houses themselves? And why

768
00:46:50,010 --> 00:46:52,470
doesn't he be a little less like
Scrooge and a little more like

769
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:53,100
Santa Claus.

770
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:59,310
Adam Curry: So if we make it
another 10 years, I would say

771
00:46:59,340 --> 00:47:04,740
sketchy likelihood at best. We
will be talking about bug

772
00:47:04,740 --> 00:47:09,210
recipes on this very podcast,
because they're doing it. This

773
00:47:09,210 --> 00:47:14,220
is the while we're all arguing
about Klaus Schwab. And I'll go

774
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:18,210
I like it's funny. The Klaus
Schwab songs and everything is

775
00:47:18,210 --> 00:47:18,570
funny.

776
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:21,210
John C Dvorak: I love the Klaus
Schwab material. It's

777
00:47:21,210 --> 00:47:24,810
Adam Curry: funny, but it's very
funny, but it's really the wrong

778
00:47:24,810 --> 00:47:29,430
thing. These are the people and
this is huge. The amount of

779
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:32,670
people who are in these cop
meetings, and they're living it

780
00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:36,090
up. I mean, they're flying
around the land

781
00:47:36,090 --> 00:47:38,550
John C Dvorak: around in their
private hair came in there. Of

782
00:47:38,550 --> 00:47:43,110
all places do buy which is a
long haul for anyone to go to

783
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,150
Adam Curry: a it's a great trip.
Pierre flew in special special

784
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,550
now to do everybody's hair.
Look, I know women and hair,

785
00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:57,360
Queen Ursula his hair was done.
So be there. She had her

786
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:02,280
personal hairdresser fly with
her. Or Pierre was there waiting

787
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,150
for about a week she's actually
no no, no, this is no wig. This

788
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:10,410
is no wig. The you know, she I
believe may be responsible for a

789
00:48:10,410 --> 00:48:16,170
huge, huge loss theft may be of
money with the Pfizer deals

790
00:48:16,170 --> 00:48:19,350
which she did on her on her own
phone. Of course, you know, we

791
00:48:19,350 --> 00:48:23,250
can't show those tax records. I
mean, there's no Yeah, exactly.

792
00:48:23,250 --> 00:48:28,320
There's no record. These people
are stealing from our children's

793
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:28,830
future.

794
00:48:29,490 --> 00:48:33,120
John C Dvorak: That's stealing
from our future. Our

795
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,430
Adam Curry: immediate future. We
don't have much future left and

796
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:39,780
they're stealing from it. That's
been me. Meanwhile, let's all

797
00:48:39,780 --> 00:48:42,870
feel good by stories like

798
00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:45,180
Unknown: this, and finally
tonight, the new technology that

799
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:48,810
could redefine what it means to
go electric. Here's Maggie

800
00:48:48,810 --> 00:48:49,290
Vesper.

801
00:48:50,730 --> 00:48:54,150
Adam Curry: By the way, nothing
funnier than having a reporter

802
00:48:54,180 --> 00:48:57,450
work on climate change and
electrified cars whose name is

803
00:48:57,450 --> 00:48:58,110
Vesper?

804
00:48:58,170 --> 00:49:00,990
John C Dvorak: Are you getting
out the scooter? Yes, but really

805
00:49:01,020 --> 00:49:02,970
Unknown: electric here's Maggie
Vesper.

806
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,070
on its list of claims to
automotive fame, okay, there we

807
00:49:08,070 --> 00:49:14,070
go. Detroit can add America's
first electric Ave. The battery

808
00:49:14,070 --> 00:49:18,510
was at 66% We've been driving a
few minutes and now it's at 68.

809
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,700
Exactly. A public road able to
wirelessly charge Evie batteries

810
00:49:23,730 --> 00:49:27,840
as they drive over asphalt. The
technology is under our feet.

811
00:49:28,530 --> 00:49:32,040
Like the surface of the road
literally. The secret rubber

812
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,790
coated copper coils embedded in
the road that correspond with a

813
00:49:35,790 --> 00:49:38,820
special receiver under the
vehicle. The technology

814
00:49:38,820 --> 00:49:41,880
developed by Israel based
electric Yan who touts similar

815
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,780
projects in several countries,
including Sweden, where NBCs

816
00:49:45,780 --> 00:49:49,620
Kelly cobia got a look last
year. So we're being charged

817
00:49:49,650 --> 00:49:54,210
right now we are being charged.
Tell me why this is safe. This

818
00:49:54,210 --> 00:49:59,460
is safe. This system is only
active when you have a validated

819
00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:02,460
rule. vehicle with the receiver
validated

820
00:50:02,820 --> 00:50:06,150
the price tag for the projects
to ultimately cover one mile of

821
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:09,300
road just under $6 million,
according to state officials,

822
00:50:09,780 --> 00:50:12,840
who say the costs will plummet
as they expand, and in the next

823
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,590
few years, licensed receivers to
the public. Could you see this

824
00:50:16,590 --> 00:50:17,760
actually being used broadly?

825
00:50:17,790 --> 00:50:20,880
I can, yes, we want to get rid
of this myth of range of

826
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,520
guidance. You want to know that
when you get to a location,

827
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,050
you're able to charge your
vehicle

828
00:50:25,110 --> 00:50:30,030
Motor City once again, hoping to
lead the charge into America's

829
00:50:30,030 --> 00:50:30,480
future.

830
00:50:31,260 --> 00:50:35,700
Adam Curry: lead the charge.
Brilliant, brilliantly written I

831
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:37,950
tell you, let's go have a beer.
No.

832
00:50:38,490 --> 00:50:42,720
John C Dvorak: 6 million. My
host problem in this country.

833
00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:47,580
Here we can eliminate the even
the closest concept that that

834
00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:52,290
concept is not doable. The
potholes will eat into the

835
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,730
charging grid that's under there
doesn't electrocute someone.

836
00:50:57,540 --> 00:50:59,460
It's ludicrous.

837
00:50:59,910 --> 00:51:03,210
Adam Curry: And the price is
obviously I mean, that's, it's

838
00:51:03,210 --> 00:51:09,990
crazy, of course $6 million for
one mile. But and by that, and

839
00:51:10,020 --> 00:51:12,780
that's you know, I'm sure. I'm
just going to guess you'd

840
00:51:12,780 --> 00:51:14,430
John C Dvorak: have to have a
meter on your car, because

841
00:51:14,430 --> 00:51:17,610
you're not going to give you the
electricity for free. And

842
00:51:17,610 --> 00:51:21,390
Adam Curry: I'm just going to
guess that. I don't know, maybe

843
00:51:21,420 --> 00:51:24,870
some venture capital company had
something to do with this. You

844
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:27,930
know, this is where this is
where your green where your

845
00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:32,100
green money is going to. And you
know, right on cue with all of

846
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:36,600
this, and I have to give it to
him. Elon Musk is a dynamite

847
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,830
marketer. He's, he knows what
he's doing. I'm gonna go cause a

848
00:51:40,830 --> 00:51:44,820
ruckus and go cause a ruckus.
And then the next day I'm going

849
00:51:44,820 --> 00:51:46,260
to launch my cyber truck.

850
00:51:46,290 --> 00:51:49,050
Unknown: After two years of
delays in production shrinks.

851
00:51:49,050 --> 00:51:52,740
Tesla has finally handed the
first cyber trucks over to

852
00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:56,970
customers. Tesla CEO Elon Musk
says it has an extra safety

853
00:51:56,970 --> 00:52:03,060
feature. Why do you make it
bulletproof? I'm like, why? Do

854
00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:06,750
you want to how tough is your
truck? Bulletproof he says Elon

855
00:52:06,750 --> 00:52:09,840
Musk says the cheapest version
of cybertruck will cost just

856
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,070
under $61,000. That's more than
50% over the price Musk floated

857
00:52:14,070 --> 00:52:17,970
when he announced the vehicle in
2019. Dude,

858
00:52:17,970 --> 00:52:22,080
Adam Curry: we were supposed to
be able to have our Tesla's do

859
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,460
taxi service three years ago. If
I recall correctly,

860
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,280
John C Dvorak: yeah, he's a
great bullshit artist. Yes.

861
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:32,490
Adam Curry: But me he uses the
momentum and he comes out with

862
00:52:32,490 --> 00:52:37,350
the cybertruck and ah, the
amount of just drooling over

863
00:52:37,350 --> 00:52:41,340
this thing. Drooling I mean,
anything I knew we've

864
00:52:41,340 --> 00:52:43,620
John C Dvorak: seen this truck
before and he bashed it with a

865
00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:44,970
hammer and he made a dent and

866
00:52:44,970 --> 00:52:48,600
Adam Curry: it wasn't a hammer.
It was a was a steel ball. And

867
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,830
it broke the window. The window
breakable window. Yeah.

868
00:52:53,490 --> 00:52:56,280
John C Dvorak: So we know about
this truck is uglier than sin.

869
00:52:56,730 --> 00:53:01,830
And there's a few floating
around. People have seen him on

870
00:53:01,830 --> 00:53:05,790
the road. They're here in their
their prototypes, I guess. No.

871
00:53:05,820 --> 00:53:10,050
But you know, this trucks going
nowhere. But yeah, he gets all

872
00:53:10,050 --> 00:53:12,420
the publicity and ease and then
they keep following up because

873
00:53:12,420 --> 00:53:14,760
they're looking for more stuff
about Elon, Elon, Elon, and

874
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,890
boom, you get this beautiful
Yeah, he's a genius.

875
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,710
Adam Curry: I have to give him
that. Now, there are some

876
00:53:19,710 --> 00:53:26,040
transportation things that are
very much under attack. And the

877
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,880
first one is air travel. Now we
know that there's a shortage of

878
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,950
pilots we understand the issues
with unions keep striking. They

879
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:37,920
want more money, particularly
the cabin cabin crew and I'm not

880
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,900
talking about cockpit but cabin
crew. They really don't want you

881
00:53:42,930 --> 00:53:46,620
as a human to have a nice time
flying around on vacation doing

882
00:53:46,620 --> 00:53:50,460
business. They don't want it's
ugly. It's nasty. You know,

883
00:53:50,460 --> 00:53:53,370
you're polluting the world. I
mean, they come up with stuff

884
00:53:53,370 --> 00:53:54,000
like this.

885
00:53:54,030 --> 00:53:57,630
Unknown: Sir Richard Branson was
in the mood to brag after making

886
00:53:57,660 --> 00:54:02,100
history is 787 flew from London
to New York using 100%

887
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:05,370
Sustainable aviation. It's a
blend of process cooking oil,

888
00:54:05,370 --> 00:54:09,270
animal fat and corn based
kerosene using 70% less carbon

889
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:11,880
than normal flights. But Branson
admits the fuel is in short

890
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,880
supply and it's expensive. So
there's a long way to go before

891
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,050
this is streamlined.

892
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,210
Adam Curry: It's never more
never going to happen. It's

893
00:54:18,210 --> 00:54:18,780
never gonna

894
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:21,300
John C Dvorak: Of course I've
had caught it cost more. And by

895
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:24,630
the way, they have more
significant signal it cost a

896
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:28,500
fortune and it has been reversed
blind so it's like a pain in the

897
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:30,570
ass and is stinks when you burn
it.

898
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:32,910
Adam Curry: And it dirties the
engines is all kinds of stuff

899
00:54:32,910 --> 00:54:35,400
that does not make this a great
deal at all, but Richard

900
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,690
Branson, another great marketer,
because that's really what he

901
00:54:39,690 --> 00:54:43,440
is. He's a great marketer. Gotta
give him that he doesn't run

902
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,970
virgin. He sold that a decade
ago. And then the final one,

903
00:54:47,970 --> 00:54:51,810
this has me somewhat concerned
although it runs right into our

904
00:54:51,810 --> 00:54:57,600
trans Maoist agenda, where for
years, the Federal Aviation

905
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,930
Administration has only been
hiring a has only been has

906
00:55:00,930 --> 00:55:09,960
actually forced airlines to hire
minorities qualified or not. And

907
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:13,260
now we're down to, I think an
actual crisis. I've been hearing

908
00:55:13,260 --> 00:55:16,140
a lot about this and that's the
following story.

909
00:55:17,340 --> 00:55:20,430
Unknown: Tonight disturbing new
allegations and questions about

910
00:55:20,430 --> 00:55:23,730
the safety of American air
travel. That was shocking.

911
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,700
According to The New York Times
over the past two years,

912
00:55:26,730 --> 00:55:30,300
multiple air traffic controllers
have been reported for falling

913
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:33,600
asleep on the job, others
allegedly directing traffic

914
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:37,740
under the influence of alcohol
and illegal drugs. The Times

915
00:55:37,740 --> 00:55:40,260
reports one air traffic
controller showed up to work

916
00:55:40,260 --> 00:55:44,250
drunk joking about making big
money bust, adding another

917
00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:47,970
controller routinely smoked
marijuana during breaks dozens

918
00:55:47,970 --> 00:55:51,810
of interviews and government
documents not reviewed by the

919
00:55:51,810 --> 00:55:56,370
newspaper described overworked
at time struggling with mental

920
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:01,410
and physical health as 1000s of
controllers retire 77% of

921
00:56:01,410 --> 00:56:04,980
critical ATC facilities are
understaffed. According to a

922
00:56:04,980 --> 00:56:08,460
recent government report.
shortage is coming with serious

923
00:56:08,460 --> 00:56:13,860
close calls at US airports also
under scrutiny. 23 This year

924
00:56:13,860 --> 00:56:16,620
alone, the air traffic
controllers union writing the

925
00:56:16,620 --> 00:56:19,740
article does not portray the
professionalism and skill with

926
00:56:19,740 --> 00:56:22,680
which air traffic controllers
perform their complex and

927
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,550
stressful duties every day. But
both the union and FAA

928
00:56:26,550 --> 00:56:30,210
acknowledged there are staffing
issues. Something the FAA says

929
00:56:30,210 --> 00:56:34,800
it is working to fix with so
many lives at stake. Okay,

930
00:56:35,220 --> 00:56:38,070
Adam Curry: so I don't know the
truth of it. But I hear from a

931
00:56:38,070 --> 00:56:43,890
lot of ATC personnel and they
say we're pretty stressed. And I

932
00:56:43,890 --> 00:56:47,490
would like to say I would like
to offer I don't know if being a

933
00:56:47,490 --> 00:56:51,270
pilot gives me any advantage.
But if I can go train and pitch

934
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:55,590
in on the weekend I will I don't
smoke weed anymore. But I think

935
00:56:55,590 --> 00:56:58,980
there's if you had a call out
said hey, we have a shortage.

936
00:56:59,130 --> 00:57:02,850
But we'll accept everybody not
just gays, blacks and women

937
00:57:02,910 --> 00:57:11,430
regardless of their of their
capability and ability. This

938
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:14,130
would not be a problem.
Americans like air travel. We

939
00:57:14,130 --> 00:57:21,690
are an air travel country. So
I'm up for it. Then I'm I'm sure

940
00:57:21,690 --> 00:57:24,570
many other pilots who have
private pilot's Yeah, we'll

941
00:57:24,570 --> 00:57:29,250
pitch in. That's the American
way. Not this bullcrap. It's

942
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,830
It's so tiring the story so
tiring.

943
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,330
Unknown: It's good story.

944
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,840
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right now
there's been a debunking of a

945
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,450
debunking of something that was
debunked of a debunk

946
00:57:39,450 --> 00:57:41,520
John C Dvorak: of a debunking of
a debunking of something we

947
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,030
didn't even cover because you in
particular, thought it was

948
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:46,320
bullshit to begin with.

949
00:57:46,350 --> 00:57:49,620
Adam Curry: Yeah. So when I saw
this video, which is now many of

950
00:57:49,620 --> 00:57:52,470
you probably seen this, the New
Zealand database admin

951
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:54,090
whistleblower? Yeah.

952
00:57:54,780 --> 00:57:57,930
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
already a stretch already. Yes,

953
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:58,440
I

954
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:03,150
Adam Curry: looked at the video.
And I was like, you know, and I.

955
00:58:03,420 --> 00:58:05,820
Now of course, I clipped a
minute of it, just so we can

956
00:58:05,820 --> 00:58:09,450
talk about it. But initially, I
was like, this is not this is

957
00:58:09,450 --> 00:58:14,340
not the whole thing had Bridey
on written all over it. Sorry. I

958
00:58:14,340 --> 00:58:15,480
was thinking bit shoot,

959
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,780
Unknown: right? Well, I was
involved with building a project

960
00:58:19,170 --> 00:58:24,360
helped with implementing a
vaccine payment system for our

961
00:58:24,450 --> 00:58:29,640
providers. It's called Pay per
dose system. So that means that

962
00:58:30,090 --> 00:58:34,080
every time someone gets
vaccinated, they get a payment

963
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:42,300
for it as a provider. I helped
build it, I implemented it. And

964
00:58:42,300 --> 00:58:46,140
when I was looking at the data,
which is part of my job, I

965
00:58:46,140 --> 00:58:52,260
noticed some discrepancies with
the dates of death people can

966
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,830
people dying within a week have
been vaccinated? So

967
00:58:55,830 --> 00:58:59,580
what did you notice when you
first started to look at this

968
00:58:59,580 --> 00:59:02,010
data as you were building it?
Well,

969
00:59:02,010 --> 00:59:05,790
as soon as the system went live,
we noticed that people wouldn't

970
00:59:05,790 --> 00:59:10,380
die almost straightaway after
being injected. So that sort of

971
00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:16,020
prompted my curiosity. And so I
dug a little. I am a scientist

972
00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:20,160
by nature. I love science.
That's my all time favorite.

973
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,730
I've got a I've got a master's
degree in science. So

974
00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:27,120
John C Dvorak: I have a master's
degree in science. Wouldn't that

975
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,080
be bad? Would it be a Master of
Science? Would you have a

976
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,960
Master's of Science degree?
Yeah. What would you say? I've

977
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,060
got a Master's of Science
degree, you wouldn't get a

978
00:59:36,060 --> 00:59:39,390
master's degree in science.
There was no such thing. It was

979
00:59:39,390 --> 00:59:43,770
just no degree that you said,
masters that have just science.

980
00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:44,160
It

981
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,070
Adam Curry: was stuff like this
that made me go and whatever

982
00:59:47,070 --> 00:59:49,830
we'll see. We'll see what comes
of it. So I don't want to waste

983
00:59:49,830 --> 00:59:53,580
anybody's time. We're not the
Tim Poole show, like well,

984
00:59:54,210 --> 00:59:57,570
because first of all, I think we
already believe this. We already

985
00:59:57,570 --> 01:00:02,520
believe that the vaccine has
caught was much despair. I don't

986
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,540
need to see any data per se, but
now it's a story. And then so

987
01:00:06,540 --> 01:00:11,010
you send me a substack e Gore's
newsletter.

988
01:00:12,269 --> 01:00:13,739
John C Dvorak: It's pretty good.
By the way, generally,

989
01:00:13,770 --> 01:00:15,930
Adam Curry: it generally is
pretty good. And he says, I

990
01:00:15,930 --> 01:00:19,260
analyze the leak New Zealand
whistleblower data and suggest

991
01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:24,360
to be wary of it. And he says,
bad data inconsistent story. I

992
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,110
don't know this, Igor. I mean,
he's, honestly, I did some

993
01:00:28,110 --> 01:00:31,530
research on this guy. I'm like,
well, now he says he runs his

994
01:00:31,530 --> 01:00:36,180
own data. So it appears the data
looks legit, but there's big

995
01:00:36,180 --> 01:00:40,050
pieces missing from it. So you
and I are kind of like, well, I

996
01:00:40,050 --> 01:00:45,240
think this may be was just a
bullcrap story. But then Jimmy

997
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:50,130
Dore has Steve Kirsch come on
his show. Now, Steve Kirsch

998
01:00:50,670 --> 01:00:55,500
actual Masters of Science, I
believe. Yeah, they're from MIT.

999
01:00:55,740 --> 01:00:59,760
He even has, like a an
auditorium at MIT named after

1000
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,330
him. He's done quite well, these
is he, what did he do? Did he

1001
01:01:03,330 --> 01:01:06,240
make his money with the optical
mouse? Was that his main claim

1002
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,110
to fame? You know, I

1003
01:01:07,110 --> 01:01:09,480
John C Dvorak: don't think I
don't remember he lives around

1004
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:14,130
here somewhere. And talk to him
a couple of times. Over

1005
01:01:15,060 --> 01:01:19,500
directly, I've got his phone
number. And he was a he's one of

1006
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:22,560
these guilt ridden guys because
he was a big promoter of the

1007
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:23,250
vaccine.

1008
01:01:23,670 --> 01:01:28,260
Adam Curry: Infoseek, this
search and that InfoSec. info

1009
01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:31,770
see, now info secret was
InfoSec. Now the search engine

1010
01:01:32,610 --> 01:01:35,880
and then he had Oh, okay frame
technology, which Adobe bought.

1011
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:37,020
So he's been around.

1012
01:01:37,050 --> 01:01:41,040
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's a he's
a really sharp guy. Okay,

1013
01:01:41,070 --> 01:01:47,070
though, he seems to be a guy
who's living a life of guilt,

1014
01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:49,860
because it seems that he
promoted the vaccine. And then

1015
01:01:49,860 --> 01:01:53,910
he discovered it was bold
creditors that it was bad. And

1016
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:59,490
he turned, it became a major,
major anti COVID vaccine guy.

1017
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,470
Yes. Major.

1018
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:03,180
Adam Curry: He did. All right,
way beyond.

1019
01:02:03,180 --> 01:02:06,510
John C Dvorak: Well, we, we just
deconstruct news stories. We

1020
01:02:06,510 --> 01:02:07,830
don't take sides. So this

1021
01:02:07,830 --> 01:02:11,400
Adam Curry: is not. Jimmy Dore
got him on right away. I thought

1022
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,960
that was pretty good. My point,
my point being that Steve cursed

1023
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,200
us. He's a sharp guy. There's no
doubt about it. He's a sharp

1024
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:23,340
guy. So for him to go out on
this limb. He clearly believes

1025
01:02:23,340 --> 01:02:25,350
in what he's saying. And I
pulled a couple of clips from

1026
01:02:25,380 --> 01:02:25,680
well,

1027
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,950
Unknown: I got the data. And I
think I was the first person in

1028
01:02:28,950 --> 01:02:31,860
the world outside of the
whistleblower dude to get the

1029
01:02:31,860 --> 01:02:36,780
data. So it got uploaded to my,
my, I have a wasabi server,

1030
01:02:36,930 --> 01:02:38,790
Adam Curry: we need one of
those, John, we need a wasabi

1031
01:02:38,790 --> 01:02:40,410
server, whatever it is, I want
one.

1032
01:02:40,620 --> 01:02:47,670
Unknown: And the data was
uploaded in November. And though

1033
01:02:47,700 --> 01:02:51,840
the whistle blower asked me to
keep it quiet until November 30.

1034
01:02:52,140 --> 01:02:57,030
And on November 30, I had a
speech in the MIT auditorium,

1035
01:02:57,030 --> 01:03:00,570
the Kirsch auditorium, it's
named after me. And they

1036
01:03:00,570 --> 01:03:03,210
actually let me speak there
because the student group was

1037
01:03:03,210 --> 01:03:07,110
willing to sponsor my speaking
there. But they couldn't find an

1038
01:03:07,110 --> 01:03:11,460
MIT faculty member who was
willing to sponsor me to speak

1039
01:03:11,460 --> 01:03:13,830
about the truth about the COVID
vaccines, but fortunately, a

1040
01:03:13,830 --> 01:03:20,160
student group invited me and so
I spoke about this, this huge

1041
01:03:20,190 --> 01:03:24,840
data dump from New Zealand, and
they've confirmed that it is

1042
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:29,700
legitimate data from a
legitimate source. And that data

1043
01:03:29,700 --> 01:03:33,060
shows there's no way you can
analyze this and come to any

1044
01:03:33,060 --> 01:03:37,350
other conclusion other than the
vaccines have killed massive

1045
01:03:37,350 --> 01:03:40,770
numbers of people about one in
1000 which means the vaccines

1046
01:03:40,770 --> 01:03:47,910
have killed 675,000 People in
America and 13 about 13 million

1047
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:49,350
people worldwide.

1048
01:03:50,070 --> 01:03:52,710
Adam Curry: All right, he has my
attention. And he's going to go

1049
01:03:52,710 --> 01:03:53,130
into some

1050
01:03:53,130 --> 01:03:56,130
John C Dvorak: by the end by the
way on this show, months and

1051
01:03:56,130 --> 01:04:00,540
months and months ago, we had to
one in 1000 number oh yeah, this

1052
01:04:00,540 --> 01:04:02,940
is not necessarily Mrs. None of
this is new.

1053
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:06,960
Adam Curry: So this kind of
leads me to believe that this

1054
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,690
data has been so this data has
been out for at least a month

1055
01:04:09,690 --> 01:04:12,000
people have had it I'm sure
Kirsch wasn't the only guy

1056
01:04:12,330 --> 01:04:17,910
perhaps we have this this
controversy Dare I say thrown

1057
01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:22,020
into the ether so that it can be
similar some summarily dismissed

1058
01:04:22,650 --> 01:04:26,760
by mainstream to say Nah, you
know, these guys, nut job,

1059
01:04:26,850 --> 01:04:31,110
Master of Science, whatever
Steve Kershel anti Vax maybe

1060
01:04:31,110 --> 01:04:36,000
it's just been thrown into this,
this tumbler so that now it can

1061
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,360
be dismissed as a bunch of
nutjob high up thank you.

1062
01:04:39,390 --> 01:04:42,840
Unknown: It's all the records in
a particular database in the New

1063
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,950
Zealand Ministry of Health. So
this is 1/3 of all the

1064
01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:52,800
vaccination records for the New
Zealand for New Zealand. And so

1065
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:57,240
with this data, which includes
the death data and the date of

1066
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:02,730
birth, we can calculate To
everything we want to calculate

1067
01:05:02,730 --> 01:05:05,760
in order to show whether the
vaccines are safe and effective,

1068
01:05:05,940 --> 01:05:10,050
there's only one way to do this
calculation. And there's only

1069
01:05:10,050 --> 01:05:13,950
one result of the calculation.
And there's only one way to

1070
01:05:13,950 --> 01:05:17,640
interpret the results of the
calculation. And it shows

1071
01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:23,100
massive numbers of people
killed, effective 13 million

1072
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:26,490
people were killed by their
governments worldwide. And this

1073
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:32,520
data proves now there are people
who are skilled at gaslighting

1074
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,580
people and trying to convince
them that this data shows

1075
01:05:35,580 --> 01:05:37,080
something other than what it
does.

1076
01:05:37,500 --> 01:05:40,050
Adam Curry: So there he's saying
looks like there could be some

1077
01:05:40,050 --> 01:05:44,130
psyop going on. That's how the
creative or I Consulting Group

1078
01:05:44,310 --> 01:05:48,570
analyze everything is yeah, we
do. So then he's going to go

1079
01:05:48,570 --> 01:05:51,930
into the analysis of the data.
Because this is not a new

1080
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,500
analysis that's been done, as
you just said, we had this

1081
01:05:55,530 --> 01:05:56,850
information, the correct

1082
01:05:56,850 --> 01:05:59,910
Unknown: way to analyze this
data is to do a time series

1083
01:05:59,910 --> 01:06:03,480
cohort analysis, which is the
most sophisticated analysis

1084
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,810
that's available for data like
this. This is what the

1085
01:06:06,810 --> 01:06:11,820
epidemiologists use. This is
what the UK Office of National

1086
01:06:11,820 --> 01:06:15,690
Statistics used to prove the
vaccines are safe and effective.

1087
01:06:15,870 --> 01:06:19,590
So it's a known technique is
generally accepted in the

1088
01:06:19,590 --> 01:06:24,090
community. And it's the most
sophisticated technique. And it

1089
01:06:24,090 --> 01:06:28,110
was only the UK ons which use
the sophisticated technique. And

1090
01:06:28,110 --> 01:06:31,560
of course, their data was very
flawed. But even then, it's

1091
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,460
still showed the same signal, as
in the New Zealand data. And we

1092
01:06:35,460 --> 01:06:39,150
see the same signal in the US
Medicare data, which is all gold

1093
01:06:39,150 --> 01:06:44,160
standard data. So you have the
UK, New Zealand, and the United

1094
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:49,440
States of America, all showing
the same result, which is you

1095
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:54,510
take these vaccines, and your
risk of dying, the next day is

1096
01:06:54,510 --> 01:06:58,290
higher than it was the day
before. And it keeps going up

1097
01:06:58,410 --> 01:06:59,700
and up and up. So

1098
01:06:59,700 --> 01:07:03,360
Adam Curry: this to me is a very
level headed dissection or

1099
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,740
analysis of the data. Because we
were promised safe and effective

1100
01:07:07,740 --> 01:07:12,540
we know effective fell by the
wayside. Right away. The safe

1101
01:07:12,540 --> 01:07:18,450
side is what's in question. So,
you know, the entire, the entire

1102
01:07:18,450 --> 01:07:22,860
reason I believe, for this to be
so controversial, is to make it

1103
01:07:22,860 --> 01:07:26,430
dismissible by government
agencies because they are hiding

1104
01:07:26,430 --> 01:07:30,180
it as witness in his third and
final clip. So

1105
01:07:30,180 --> 01:07:33,450
Unknown: for dose two, for
example, in the United States of

1106
01:07:33,450 --> 01:07:36,390
America, we have the Medicare
data that proves this. In the

1107
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:40,260
United States of America, you
take those two, your risk goes

1108
01:07:40,260 --> 01:07:47,790
up every single day, for 365
days in a row. And it goes up at

1109
01:07:47,790 --> 01:07:54,930
the end of 365 days. It's
climbed by 26% over baseline 26%

1110
01:07:54,930 --> 01:08:00,060
over baseline it should be
falling by 4%. Because this is

1111
01:08:00,060 --> 01:08:03,090
Medicare data, and then the
Medicare mortality is about 4%

1112
01:08:03,090 --> 01:08:07,710
per year. So this data, when you
look at these people who have

1113
01:08:07,710 --> 01:08:11,790
been vaccinated with with those
two, and you take them and you

1114
01:08:11,790 --> 01:08:15,660
look at how they die over time,
there should be like 4% of them

1115
01:08:15,660 --> 01:08:21,810
should die over a period of 12
months. And what we're finding

1116
01:08:22,110 --> 01:08:26,940
is an accelerated death rate
that is about it's it's 30%.

1117
01:08:27,660 --> 01:08:33,210
Differential from the 4% It's
supposed to go down. So there's

1118
01:08:33,210 --> 01:08:39,240
no doubt about it. There. You
can have have the death curve

1119
01:08:39,300 --> 01:08:44,970
march up in a straight line for
12 months without any

1120
01:08:44,970 --> 01:08:49,530
fluctuations whatsoever. It is
like clockwork it is the most

1121
01:08:49,530 --> 01:08:54,030
beautiful graph I have ever
seen. And I just got it recently

1122
01:08:54,030 --> 01:08:57,750
from a whistleblower inside of
health and human services

1123
01:08:57,870 --> 01:09:01,740
because the CDC doesn't disclose
this data. They have the data

1124
01:09:01,980 --> 01:09:05,610
the CDC has access to this
Medicare data with vaccines and

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01:09:05,610 --> 01:09:08,760
deaths they refuse to analyze
it.

1126
01:09:10,260 --> 01:09:15,330
Adam Curry: So Long live the
dudes named Ben they're not all

1127
01:09:15,390 --> 01:09:18,630
as articulate like our boy
they're New Zealand's because it

1128
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:21,300
didn't come out right and he
didn't find the right partner to

1129
01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:25,830
blow the whistle with. But I
liked Steve Kirsch his the way

1130
01:09:25,830 --> 01:09:29,190
he talks about this analysis I
think sounds good particularly.

1131
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,150
If you add to it this one minute
clip from the gold standard

1132
01:09:33,150 --> 01:09:37,350
Peter McCullough. The man cannot
be taken down because of his

1133
01:09:37,350 --> 01:09:40,110
credentials. Who said this just
this last week

1134
01:09:40,110 --> 01:09:44,790
Unknown: now I mentioned the
vaccines since 2021. The

1135
01:09:44,790 --> 01:09:49,230
vaccines has ravaged the
population in the world.

1136
01:09:50,370 --> 01:09:53,190
Worldwide. Two thirds of people
took a vaccine the United States

1137
01:09:53,190 --> 01:09:57,000
COVID Community states study
shows 75% of Americans took a

1138
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:04,260
vaccine thankfully 25% Didn't I
was the only public health and

1139
01:10:04,260 --> 01:10:06,900
public figure in the United
States in writing to question

1140
01:10:06,900 --> 01:10:10,650
the vaccines before they came
up. And I did it as loudly as I

1141
01:10:10,650 --> 01:10:16,230
could. To COVID-19 vaccines, the
United States, 94% of Americans

1142
01:10:16,230 --> 01:10:21,480
took a messenger RNA vaccine. It
is the genetic code for the

1143
01:10:21,480 --> 01:10:25,680
potentially lethal spike protein
part of the virus. It was the

1144
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:31,320
worst idea ever to install the
genetic code by injection, and

1145
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:36,240
allow unbridled production of a
potentially lethal protein in

1146
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,810
the human body for an
uncontrolled duration of time.

1147
01:10:41,130 --> 01:10:43,710
Everything we've learned about
the vaccine, since they come out

1148
01:10:43,890 --> 01:10:45,570
is horrifying.

1149
01:10:46,620 --> 01:10:50,580
Adam Curry: So to be clear, I
certainly don't think everybody

1150
01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:54,810
who was Vax is going to die.
There's no evidence of that. But

1151
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:57,660
anecdotally, and you and I just
talked about this the other day,

1152
01:10:57,660 --> 01:11:01,980
and I'm going to go into all of
our I'm going to do that. After

1153
01:11:01,980 --> 01:11:04,650
I get back from Indian life.
Indianapolis. So it'll be next

1154
01:11:05,790 --> 01:11:09,870
maybe Thursday show, I am going
to take a look at the increase

1155
01:11:10,290 --> 01:11:16,620
in producers who have in their
notes mentioned, friends or

1156
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:21,930
spouses dying, and the amount of
karma F current cancer karma

1157
01:11:21,930 --> 01:11:25,920
requests. You and I anecdotally
have seen these go up? Yeah,

1158
01:11:25,950 --> 01:11:28,770
tripled? Yes. While you're
saying trip, I'm gonna get the

1159
01:11:28,770 --> 01:11:37,020
actual number. So there's that.
But will this ever really be

1160
01:11:37,020 --> 01:11:40,230
discussed? At the level it
should be? No

1161
01:11:40,260 --> 01:11:43,560
John C Dvorak: doubtful.
Doubtful. Why would it be an

1162
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,690
embarrassment? Steve

1163
01:11:45,690 --> 01:11:48,690
Adam Curry: Kirsch added in a in
a slash today? That's what you

1164
01:11:48,690 --> 01:11:52,230
do on extra slash? You lash
Yeah, I call this lash just

1165
01:11:52,410 --> 01:11:57,480
formerly known as tweet. You
slash on x. You can now sue the

1166
01:11:57,480 --> 01:12:01,260
mRNA COVID vaccine manufacturers
for damages and the FDA is

1167
01:12:01,260 --> 01:12:04,200
required to take the COVID
vaccines off the market why?

1168
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:08,460
adulteration which we talked
about the plasmid by act active

1169
01:12:08,460 --> 01:12:11,550
contaminant sequences were not
pointed out to the regulatory

1170
01:12:11,550 --> 01:12:14,790
authorities it is considered
adulteration. He says he got off

1171
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:18,300
the phone with his lawyers. And
he says that you can sue. And

1172
01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:21,600
I'm sure that they're already
lawsuits in the making. Yeah,

1173
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,200
there's plenty for what good
it'll do. What good? No, no,

1174
01:12:25,230 --> 01:12:26,130
probably not. It's

1175
01:12:26,130 --> 01:12:29,250
John C Dvorak: a concerted
effort by the media. Right at

1176
01:12:29,250 --> 01:12:34,170
the very top of the pyramid. And
the government. Yes. Yeah. And

1177
01:12:34,170 --> 01:12:37,290
the media is still there. You
can I can turn on the TV right

1178
01:12:37,290 --> 01:12:39,990
now and hear somebody tell Oh,
get a shot. Get a COVID get a

1179
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:44,190
COVID shot and other COVID shots
good for you. And never ends.

1180
01:12:46,290 --> 01:12:48,900
Adam Curry: In fact, what did I
read? I read the other day, Mia,

1181
01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:53,250
we had the triple Demick last
year. This year they're talking

1182
01:12:53,250 --> 01:12:55,530
about I don't have a clip of it
yet. We're waiting for the first

1183
01:12:55,530 --> 01:13:01,560
one to pop up. Sin Demick sy n
sin Demick What's that mean?

1184
01:13:01,590 --> 01:13:06,300
Well, I guess that's more than
three cups endemic? I'm gonna

1185
01:13:06,300 --> 01:13:07,860
see if it's popped up anywhere
yet.

1186
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,260
John C Dvorak: By the way, I
wanted to get back to this we

1187
01:13:10,260 --> 01:13:13,620
talked about the cop thing. Do
you know what cops stands for?

1188
01:13:14,850 --> 01:13:19,770
Adam Curry: So go look it up
citizens on patrol? Exactly. I

1189
01:13:19,770 --> 01:13:29,610
knew that sin Demick sin Demick.
Sin Demings model of health

1190
01:13:29,610 --> 01:13:33,360
focuses on the biosocial complex
which consists of interacting co

1191
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,110
present or sequential sequential
diseases. And the social

1192
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:40,770
environmental factors is climate
change. There's not going to

1193
01:13:40,770 --> 01:13:44,250
catch a climate change is
killing us now. I know what it

1194
01:13:44,250 --> 01:13:48,480
John C Dvorak: stands for
Conference of the Parties. Oh,

1195
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:49,140
Adam Curry: interesting.

1196
01:13:49,890 --> 01:13:52,980
John C Dvorak: What does that
even mean? Well, that's the

1197
01:13:53,310 --> 01:13:53,880
parties

1198
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:54,780
Adam Curry: are having a party.

1199
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,230
John C Dvorak: You're in Dubai
believe that. You're gonna be

1200
01:13:58,230 --> 01:13:59,040
partying as if

1201
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,470
Adam Curry: your conference of
partying? Yeah, well, that makes

1202
01:14:01,470 --> 01:14:07,200
sense. And meanwhile, we have we
have a new term finally for this

1203
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:07,980
China thing.

1204
01:14:08,340 --> 01:14:10,920
Unknown: Well, there's a health
warning out of Ohio this week

1205
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,040
after a rise in childhood
pneumonia cases. Some are

1206
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,950
calling it white lung syndrome.
We're gonna we're gonna get to

1207
01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:19,140
that in just a second what
exactly that is I want to talk

1208
01:14:19,140 --> 01:14:22,830
to Dr. Florin with Lurie
Children's Hospital about this.

1209
01:14:22,830 --> 01:14:25,560
He is in charge of a
pediatrician at he's a

1210
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,350
pediatrician at Lurie Children's
Hospital so it seems like at

1211
01:14:28,350 --> 01:14:31,230
least around here in our
newsroom and all my friends I

1212
01:14:31,230 --> 01:14:33,660
feel like everybody has been
sick not just for like a week or

1213
01:14:33,660 --> 01:14:37,170
two but they have this sort of
lingering cough that seems to

1214
01:14:37,170 --> 01:14:37,680
last for

1215
01:14:38,460 --> 01:14:41,070
Adam Curry: a show. Listen,
there's something coming up that

1216
01:14:41,070 --> 01:14:43,770
a clip just for you. The whole
reason for this clip, they just

1217
01:14:43,770 --> 01:14:46,230
gonna talk over it and cough. I

1218
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,140
Unknown: only I only band Mum,

1219
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,150
Adam Curry: I play these clips
for you. I'm not planning for

1220
01:14:51,150 --> 01:14:53,760
anybody. All my clips are for
you. They have this

1221
01:14:54,060 --> 01:14:58,140
Unknown: sort of lingering cough
that seems to last for weeks. Is

1222
01:14:58,140 --> 01:15:00,900
it something out of the ordinary
or is Something that happens

1223
01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:04,080
sort of every year, and we're
just sort of overreacting to it

1224
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,220
this time around. Yeah,

1225
01:15:05,220 --> 01:15:06,240
no, it's a great question, I

1226
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:07,650
think. Yeah, no.

1227
01:15:09,630 --> 01:15:12,390
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, it's a
great question doesn't

1228
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:15,480
Adam Curry: get any better than
that. Yeah, no, it's a great

1229
01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:16,170
Unknown: question. And we're

1230
01:15:16,650 --> 01:15:19,410
John C Dvorak: missing was yeah,
no, it's a great question. Look,

1231
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:22,110
Unknown: I can do it this time
around. Yeah. No, it's a great

1232
01:15:22,110 --> 01:15:24,660
question. I think we're all
hyper sensitized. Yeah, for what

1233
01:15:24,660 --> 01:15:25,380
we experienced.

1234
01:15:25,770 --> 01:15:27,960
Adam Curry: Anyway, this white.
So it is interesting that it's

1235
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:32,520
Ohio. As we know, Ohio has
direct flights from China. So

1236
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,820
maybe they brought over some
white lung syndrome. And that,

1237
01:15:35,820 --> 01:15:39,120
of course, has led some
Republicans to take a well known

1238
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,280
step in these types of
operations.

1239
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,250
Unknown: Hoefler. Tonight, both
of Florida's US Senators urging

1240
01:15:44,250 --> 01:15:47,220
the White House to stop travel
to and from China, Senators

1241
01:15:47,220 --> 01:15:50,040
Marco Rubio and Rick Scott are
among several Republican

1242
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,250
lawmakers warning about a
mysterious respiratory illness,

1243
01:15:53,460 --> 01:15:56,340
they say is spreading in the
Asian country. They sent a

1244
01:15:56,340 --> 01:15:59,820
letter to President Joe Biden
today saying in part that travel

1245
01:15:59,820 --> 01:16:03,930
should immediately be restricted
quote, until we know more about

1246
01:16:03,930 --> 01:16:06,510
the dangers posed by this new
illness.

1247
01:16:06,540 --> 01:16:09,480
Adam Curry: Yeah, lock him down,
lock him down lock downs come in

1248
01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:14,310
lock downs. And now a clip that
is paused specifically because

1249
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:16,350
you know a lot about this. Dr.

1250
01:16:16,350 --> 01:16:18,990
Unknown: Mani Cohen assure
lawmakers yesterday that a new

1251
01:16:18,990 --> 01:16:24,060
virus is not causing the surge.
Listen to this view of COVID. We

1252
01:16:24,060 --> 01:16:28,020
do not believe this is a new or
novel pathogen that we believe

1253
01:16:28,020 --> 01:16:33,390
this is all existing meaning
COVID Flu RSV. CNN CHIEF MEDICAL

1254
01:16:33,390 --> 01:16:35,640
CORRESPONDENT Dr. Sanjay Gupta
joins us now Sanjay, good

1255
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,490
morning, always good to have you
on what can be behind this. And

1256
01:16:38,490 --> 01:16:39,990
how concerned should people be?

1257
01:16:41,220 --> 01:16:43,890
One thing that appears to be
complicating things, especially

1258
01:16:43,890 --> 01:16:49,320
in China is also bacterial
infections, they seem to be a

1259
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,080
large part of what's driving
this as well. And they have a

1260
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,250
lot of antibiotic resistance in
China. So this is something that

1261
01:16:56,250 --> 01:16:59,340
we're really keeping an eye on.
If you look at deaths associated

1262
01:16:59,340 --> 01:17:02,040
with antibiotic resistance
around the world, it's close to

1263
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,340
5 million a year. I mean, people
may not realize that big in

1264
01:17:05,340 --> 01:17:09,300
China alone 600,000. So this is
also I think, further

1265
01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:12,120
complicating things that with
regard to this uptick, they're

1266
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,820
likely to get it under control.
But they gotta keep an eye on

1267
01:17:14,820 --> 01:17:17,610
this problem. I mean, you know,
in China, for example, many

1268
01:17:17,610 --> 01:17:20,850
antibiotics are sold over the
counter. So that just sort of

1269
01:17:20,850 --> 01:17:23,880
fuels the problem. There's also
a lot of antibiotic use in

1270
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,910
livestock. So there's all these
different places, we have to

1271
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,690
sort of curb the use of
antibiotics. And I will tell you

1272
01:17:30,690 --> 01:17:34,050
this, it takes a long time to
develop new antibiotics that can

1273
01:17:34,050 --> 01:17:37,860
take you know, 10 to 15 years,
which is why there are people

1274
01:17:37,860 --> 01:17:41,280
around the world right now who
are trying to find alternative

1275
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,610
sources of antibiotics. They're
scouring the bottoms of the

1276
01:17:44,610 --> 01:17:47,820
ocean with chips, and they're
looking even within nature to

1277
01:17:47,820 --> 01:17:51,180
see if something can serve as an
antibiotic. Now,

1278
01:17:51,180 --> 01:17:53,370
Adam Curry: we've discussed this
in the in the history of the

1279
01:17:53,370 --> 01:17:55,800
show many times, and you know a
lot about it.

1280
01:17:56,850 --> 01:18:00,480
John C Dvorak: I do. Yeah, I do
know, one thing is that the drug

1281
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:03,420
companies, these hot shots that
are making billions of dollars

1282
01:18:03,420 --> 01:18:06,510
with vaccines, and the fact that
they make more money with that,

1283
01:18:06,510 --> 01:18:09,300
and they're not liable for
anything, have given up on

1284
01:18:09,300 --> 01:18:13,260
researching Babett antibiotics,
they've stopped, their

1285
01:18:13,260 --> 01:18:16,800
antibiotics labs have all been
closed down. They don't care

1286
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,040
anymore, because they're just
after the money. And the

1287
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,220
government said nothing to
counter this. That's the big

1288
01:18:23,220 --> 01:18:26,820
thing. I told you, you know a
lot about it. I'm just great

1289
01:18:27,060 --> 01:18:27,750
dosing.

1290
01:18:29,370 --> 01:18:33,930
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, sad news
for Pfizer, they've had to halt

1291
01:18:33,930 --> 01:18:37,800
the development of their twice
daily weight loss drug. They

1292
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:42,030
were trying to hop on the
sediment semaglutide train the

1293
01:18:42,030 --> 01:18:48,210
GLP one drugs. Sad day, they
halted it because up to 73% of

1294
01:18:48,210 --> 01:18:53,340
people in the test experienced
nausea, up to 47% reported

1295
01:18:53,340 --> 01:18:57,330
vomiting, and 25% experienced
diarrhea. I thought that was the

1296
01:18:57,330 --> 01:18:59,700
feature of these drugs. And it
does so to

1297
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,120
John C Dvorak: lose weight that
way. I mean, you can do it

1298
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,140
yourself. It's called bulimia.
But nobody wants to do that

1299
01:19:07,140 --> 01:19:07,590
anymore.

1300
01:19:07,620 --> 01:19:11,370
Adam Curry: I mean, we did hear
from our, our psychiatrist. I

1301
01:19:11,370 --> 01:19:16,020
remember the one who talked, who
told us about how the how

1302
01:19:16,020 --> 01:19:18,690
control the psychiatrists are
when it comes to telling

1303
01:19:18,690 --> 01:19:21,870
children after one visit. Yep,
Bureau boy, you gotta get on

1304
01:19:21,870 --> 01:19:26,640
some drugs. Remember this? Yeah.
All right. So turns out, she

1305
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:31,380
just wanted to say that she
wrote a very long piece in here.

1306
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:35,070
She comes from a background her
mom was 400 pounds her entire

1307
01:19:35,070 --> 01:19:39,900
life she had she said this is
interesting. Watching her over

1308
01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:43,260
the years I learned how to hoard
and sneak food eat it very

1309
01:19:43,260 --> 01:19:46,290
quickly, because otherwise she
would eat it first, which I

1310
01:19:46,290 --> 01:19:49,890
thought was funny. Like, I
adopted and created many food

1311
01:19:49,890 --> 01:19:53,010
games I would play to try and
control my cravings and intake

1312
01:19:53,010 --> 01:19:56,250
nothing worked. I was overweight
most of my life. She says that

1313
01:19:56,250 --> 01:20:02,790
she had the food noise in her
head and Um, her. Her obesity

1314
01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:07,350
came from childhood trauma. You
know, basically she wanted to

1315
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:11,520
not be attractive because of
some abuse that she had as a

1316
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,730
young child. This is very well
known. This happens a lot,

1317
01:20:14,730 --> 01:20:21,840
especially to young girls. But
she ends by saying 34 years old

1318
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,830
now, at 34 years old, I'm now 43
Everything changed. I sought out

1319
01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:28,740
Overeaters Anonymous, they
sister program to Alcoholics

1320
01:20:28,740 --> 01:20:33,030
Anonymous. Now, they of course
have a religious part to this.

1321
01:20:34,500 --> 01:20:37,140
So she's embraced God and
spirituality but along with

1322
01:20:37,140 --> 01:20:40,470
that, Kim a very strong
influence to not eat foods that

1323
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:46,110
contain sugar, and over
processed foods, then she has

1324
01:20:46,110 --> 01:20:49,530
lost 115 pounds she actually
sent two pictures before and

1325
01:20:49,530 --> 01:20:53,670
after them. So she is just
saying that the food noise is

1326
01:20:53,670 --> 01:21:00,360
real, but it's coming from sugar
addiction and unprocessed foods,

1327
01:21:00,390 --> 01:21:03,900
which is the real problem, which
is which is the issue that we

1328
01:21:03,900 --> 01:21:08,100
have and I saw this in the
Netherlands where we used to go

1329
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:11,490
to the butcher get your beef, we
went to the actual Baker and we

1330
01:21:11,490 --> 01:21:14,310
got our bread the milkman
dropped the milk off in the in

1331
01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:18,000
the bottles and everyone biked
to school, no matter what,

1332
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:22,560
whether now, and now you go
look, they're getting fat.

1333
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,590
They're getting obese because
they've got processed food,

1334
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:31,080
they've got fast foods, we got
all kinds of stuff. All all bad

1335
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:35,010
intake, and it's about to get
worse now for business news tick

1336
01:21:35,010 --> 01:21:37,380
tock is one of the world's
that's not what I wanted. I'm

1337
01:21:37,380 --> 01:21:38,820
sorry, I forgot to cut it stay

1338
01:21:38,820 --> 01:21:40,710
Unknown: competitive with higher
end.

1339
01:21:41,970 --> 01:21:45,660
John C Dvorak: Girls, after
sorry, late when you do the big

1340
01:21:46,110 --> 01:21:47,490
grandiose. I

1341
01:21:47,490 --> 01:21:50,340
Unknown: screw it up. The Wall
Street Journal reports that the

1342
01:21:50,340 --> 01:21:54,120
chain has been working for the
past McDonald's seven years on

1343
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,990
improving its signature
hamburgers. After a test run in

1344
01:21:57,990 --> 01:22:02,730
Australia. These 50 tweaks which
include a brioche bun, fresher

1345
01:22:02,730 --> 01:22:05,730
patties and more sauce. Well,
they'll be unveiled in the

1346
01:22:05,730 --> 01:22:08,850
United States that why is
McDonald's doing this well to

1347
01:22:08,850 --> 01:22:13,500
stay competitive with higher end
chains that have taken a $2.4

1348
01:22:13,530 --> 01:22:18,510
billion chunk out of the United
States $72 billion burger

1349
01:22:18,510 --> 01:22:22,350
market. Needless to say the
rollout is massive with 10s of

1350
01:22:22,350 --> 01:22:27,000
1000s of McDonald's workers
across the globe. No news yet

1351
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,820
though. We'll about when these
changes will come to the

1352
01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:31,950
European McDonald's. So

1353
01:22:31,980 --> 01:22:35,760
Adam Curry: McDonald's is going
to make 55 Zero improvements to

1354
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,120
its hamburger. How about better
meat?

1355
01:22:39,510 --> 01:22:41,910
John C Dvorak: Well, how about
they've been they've been

1356
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,290
devolving their burgers I
haven't had when I do like to do

1357
01:22:46,290 --> 01:22:50,280
a quarterly report for
Horowitz's show and and I'm here

1358
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:54,210
to try to have one of these I
can't last time I couldn't even

1359
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:58,620
eat it but so I but I do get the
ice cream cone once in a while

1360
01:22:58,620 --> 01:23:02,670
when it's hot out. But when I do
that I go through the normal

1361
01:23:02,670 --> 01:23:07,170
line and the drive thru and I
look at the menu yes and I gotta

1362
01:23:07,170 --> 01:23:09,780
get bring the camera and go get
another ice cream cone because

1363
01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:17,370
this you know what? A quarter
pounders like $11.10 bucks for a

1364
01:23:17,370 --> 01:23:21,330
Big Mac. These used to be when I
was a kid. This used to be the

1365
01:23:21,330 --> 01:23:27,420
15 cent hamburger place 15 cents
that 15 cent burger now is

1366
01:23:27,420 --> 01:23:31,920
almost three bucks. I mean what
did inflation does it no no I

1367
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,100
know how dad got the inflation
tables this is way beyond

1368
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:39,390
inflation and in the same during
that same period Dave to quality

1369
01:23:39,390 --> 01:23:42,420
has gone nothing but downhill.
Well,

1370
01:23:42,420 --> 01:23:45,240
Adam Curry: there's a couple of
things one minimum wage

1371
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,270
requirements mainly in
California for fast food workers

1372
01:23:48,270 --> 01:23:52,200
unionization this is this is
it's all been predicted. Well

1373
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,960
you know if you if you want if
you want to do that, then you

1374
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,990
know pressure your burger is
gonna go up. But I'm very

1375
01:23:57,990 --> 01:24:02,640
curious to see a what they did
to improve their burger 50

1376
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,840
steps. That's got to be taste
and texture products they're

1377
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:12,570
mixing in to get ready for every
morning show in America. Boy,

1378
01:24:12,570 --> 01:24:15,990
oh, let's try the new burgers
we're on all the native ads are

1379
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:17,130
going to start coming in.

1380
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:18,000
John C Dvorak: It'd be great.
It'd

1381
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,060
Adam Curry: be dropping that
will be fun. And But meanwhile,

1382
01:24:21,060 --> 01:24:22,800
if that's too expensive for you,

1383
01:24:22,830 --> 01:24:25,050
John C Dvorak: this is the best
burger I think I've ever had.

1384
01:24:25,050 --> 01:24:27,990
There's gonna be there's the
line. Yeah, I would write this

1385
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:30,600
line and put it into the script
that they have to somebody has

1386
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,270
to say this. You know, it'd be
elrow could be good at this. I

1387
01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:35,820
think this is the best burger
I've ever eaten. This

1388
01:24:35,820 --> 01:24:38,040
Adam Curry: reminds me of the
burgers I had with a kid when I

1389
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,850
was a kid. That's the line I'd
write this. gone back to the

1390
01:24:41,850 --> 01:24:44,820
base of this. Whatever
McDonald's has done. Its magic.

1391
01:24:45,180 --> 01:24:49,050
They got better cows. And it's
this is this goes back to the

1392
01:24:49,050 --> 01:24:52,650
burger I tasted when I was a
kid. I'm selling his burger

1393
01:24:52,650 --> 01:24:57,000
classic. If you can't afford
that we have a solution for you

1394
01:24:57,030 --> 01:25:00,600
Unknown: for macaroni and cheese
that has no dairy newly released

1395
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,700
today by Chicago based Kraft
Foods

1396
01:25:02,730 --> 01:25:05,760
it's called not mac and cheese
and it was developed with

1397
01:25:05,790 --> 01:25:09,750
Chicago startup not called.
Kraft is offering two versions

1398
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:12,780
original and white cheddar. The
fake cheese will be made out of

1399
01:25:12,780 --> 01:25:16,290
fava beans and coconut oil
powder. It follows other plant

1400
01:25:16,290 --> 01:25:19,830
based products cheese slices and
mayonnaise released earlier this

1401
01:25:19,830 --> 01:25:23,340
year. Looks like mac and cheese
tastes like mac and cheese, not

1402
01:25:23,340 --> 01:25:24,150
mac and cheese.

1403
01:25:25,140 --> 01:25:28,050
John C Dvorak: You slaves can
get used the Mac the mac and

1404
01:25:28,050 --> 01:25:32,910
cheese macaroni and cheese
shatter melted together mac and

1405
01:25:32,910 --> 01:25:33,360
cheese

1406
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,810
Adam Curry: mac and cheese mac
and cheese so it doesn't even

1407
01:25:36,810 --> 01:25:39,570
have cheap cheddar in it
anymore. And we've been on the

1408
01:25:39,570 --> 01:25:44,610
mac and cheese thing for 14
years. Maybe even longer. We

1409
01:25:44,610 --> 01:25:47,880
have said this would be the
future of food and here we are

1410
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:53,250
right again. The future of food
we were wrong on the fact that

1411
01:25:53,250 --> 01:25:54,240
it would be cheese

1412
01:25:56,610 --> 01:25:59,730
John C Dvorak: is not even
cheese's fava beans or some damn

1413
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:04,620
thing it's processed by a
refinery is disgusting.

1414
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,160
Adam Curry: It's unbelievable.
Now I believe it's believable.

1415
01:26:08,190 --> 01:26:09,810
This is where we are this is
where we're at.

1416
01:26:10,230 --> 01:26:12,840
John C Dvorak: This is it. So
I'm going to play three clips

1417
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:16,590
that are a different topic.
Okay. Because this is coming

1418
01:26:16,590 --> 01:26:21,120
this is coming to a head and the
clips are the it says f e i

1419
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,690
think is GA but this f e o RG vs
vs. Oh

1420
01:26:24,690 --> 01:26:27,930
Adam Curry: yes. Yeah, this is a
great case. And this case

1421
01:26:27,930 --> 01:26:30,930
John C Dvorak: is interesting
because it's it's it may or may

1422
01:26:30,930 --> 01:26:34,680
not did. But I'll tell you what
the issue is as we play a few

1423
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,750
these glimpses PLAY CLIP one.
The

1424
01:26:36,750 --> 01:26:39,270
Unknown: Supreme Court is
considering how much authority

1425
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:42,480
federal government agencies
have. The Biden administration

1426
01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:45,960
has appealed a lower court
decision in favor of hedge fund

1427
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:50,190
manager and conservative radio
jockey George dark hazy, the SEC

1428
01:26:50,190 --> 01:26:53,430
find dark hazy and barred him
from the industry after finding

1429
01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:56,970
he committed securities fraud.
The lower court then rolled a

1430
01:26:56,970 --> 01:27:00,660
drug case he should have been
allowed a jury trial, we turn

1431
01:27:00,660 --> 01:27:03,570
out to our Legal Correspondent,
Arlene Richards to sort out the

1432
01:27:03,570 --> 01:27:07,500
arguments. Arlene in layman's
terms. What happened here?

1433
01:27:07,620 --> 01:27:11,520
Well, to state it simply the SEC
is a government agency. And for

1434
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,970
years, it has been initiating
claims against individuals

1435
01:27:14,970 --> 01:27:18,300
through its in house tribunal
system rather than going to an

1436
01:27:18,300 --> 01:27:21,510
outside court. Now Congress gave
them that power under the

1437
01:27:21,510 --> 01:27:25,530
Securities and Exchange Act.
They use the same system in this

1438
01:27:25,530 --> 01:27:29,580
case, which find in BB George
dark hazy for securities fraud.

1439
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,850
Now he appealed to the Fifth
Circuit Court of Appeals, sir

1440
01:27:32,850 --> 01:27:36,690
Casey's attorney argued that the
SEC is powers should be

1441
01:27:36,690 --> 01:27:39,990
restricted by the Seventh
Amendment of the Constitution,

1442
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,920
which gives individuals the
right to a jury trial. At oral

1443
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,520
argument today, he said that
basic securities fraud is a

1444
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:51,630
typically common law claim, and
therefore this client should

1445
01:27:51,630 --> 01:27:55,140
have gotten a jury trial in a
federal court. So this case is

1446
01:27:55,140 --> 01:27:57,840
about what is the extent of
those Seventh Amendment

1447
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:02,610
restrictions in securities fraud
cases where the SEC is seeking

1448
01:28:02,610 --> 01:28:06,660
penalties. In this case, the
Fifth Circuit also ruled that

1449
01:28:06,660 --> 01:28:10,710
the SEC has actions violated
articles one and two of the

1450
01:28:10,710 --> 01:28:14,730
constitution. So the court
effectively invalidated three

1451
01:28:14,730 --> 01:28:18,330
aspects of the SEC is
operations. Yeah,

1452
01:28:18,330 --> 01:28:21,570
Adam Curry: this could change
the entire administrative slash

1453
01:28:21,570 --> 01:28:22,440
Deep State.

1454
01:28:22,440 --> 01:28:27,990
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but the
problem is this case is stepping

1455
01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:32,250
on the upcoming case about
Chevron deference. Yes, yes.

1456
01:28:32,250 --> 01:28:35,700
Which is better. That's, that's
the case, which is a killer,

1457
01:28:35,820 --> 01:28:38,550
because it's about some guy in a
fishing boat where he had to

1458
01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:42,420
hire inspectors and he had to
pay the for the inspector or

1459
01:28:42,420 --> 01:28:46,020
government inspectors would be
on his boat. And it was just a

1460
01:28:46,020 --> 01:28:49,710
complete. The problem was
administrative law. It was

1461
01:28:49,710 --> 01:28:53,820
always accepted, accepted by the
insofar as

1462
01:28:54,420 --> 01:28:57,300
Adam Curry: I have, after your
clips, I have a 45 second clip

1463
01:28:57,300 --> 01:28:59,190
that explains Chevron deference.

1464
01:29:00,450 --> 01:29:03,300
John C Dvorak: Okay, so the
point is, is that the Chevron

1465
01:29:03,300 --> 01:29:06,750
deference case will be the one
that can screw over

1466
01:29:06,750 --> 01:29:11,070
administrative law, because of
abuse of power, which is what's

1467
01:29:11,070 --> 01:29:16,260
happened with that upcoming
Case. This case is a bad case

1468
01:29:16,260 --> 01:29:21,360
because it could step in and
under some circumstance, create

1469
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,730
a precedent that would set rule
over

1470
01:29:25,050 --> 01:29:28,890
Adam Curry: Oh, so this guy is a
see a shield?

1471
01:29:29,220 --> 01:29:30,990
John C Dvorak: No, I don't think
so. I think there's just an

1472
01:29:30,990 --> 01:29:34,080
accident, but they've everyone's
glommed onto it, knowing the

1473
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:38,730
potential for it being
destructive. Insofar as the

1474
01:29:38,730 --> 01:29:42,450
Chevron deference cases concern
which everybody's freaked out

1475
01:29:42,450 --> 01:29:46,170
about, they are freaked out,
because what that case would do

1476
01:29:46,170 --> 01:29:50,550
was take away this, these, these
kangaroo courts and all the rest

1477
01:29:50,550 --> 01:29:54,330
of it has to be all rethought is
a major major case. This case

1478
01:29:54,330 --> 01:29:56,370
here may screw it up. Let's Play
Part Two,

1479
01:29:56,430 --> 01:29:59,760
Unknown: presumably the SEC
followed the same proceedings

1480
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:03,150
that it usually does to handle
suspected fraud. How is this

1481
01:30:03,150 --> 01:30:06,150
case? Are the proceedings
different from other cases?

1482
01:30:06,180 --> 01:30:09,930
Well, the proceeding itself was
not different. But I think the

1483
01:30:09,930 --> 01:30:13,320
issues raised on appeal were
different. And of course, the

1484
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,890
Fifth Circuit's decision was
unexpected. Now the court

1485
01:30:16,890 --> 01:30:20,640
decided that Congress violated
the Seventh Amendment when it

1486
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:24,030
gave the SEC the power to
initiate administrative

1487
01:30:24,030 --> 01:30:27,450
proceedings and seek penalties,
and that by giving them this

1488
01:30:27,450 --> 01:30:32,490
power, the SEC has unrestricted
authority to choose cases and

1489
01:30:32,490 --> 01:30:36,240
seek remedies without going to a
federal court. And the Fifth

1490
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:40,110
Circuit said fraud actions like
this case should be handled

1491
01:30:40,140 --> 01:30:44,550
under federal common law and not
by independent agency action.

1492
01:30:44,670 --> 01:30:48,390
It seems like the Fifth Circuit
unilaterally changed a law or

1493
01:30:48,390 --> 01:30:52,050
proceeding that has always been
used by the SEC. What was the

1494
01:30:52,050 --> 01:30:54,630
Biden administration's response
to the ruling?

1495
01:30:54,690 --> 01:30:57,270
Well, the Biden administration
is, of course very concerned

1496
01:30:57,270 --> 01:31:01,620
about this ruling. Notably, the
SEC is five member commission is

1497
01:31:01,620 --> 01:31:04,950
appointed by the president with
the consent of the Senate. So

1498
01:31:04,950 --> 01:31:08,310
this ruling undercuts the
administration's authority.

1499
01:31:08,580 --> 01:31:12,210
Their response to this decision
is that the SEC has a long

1500
01:31:12,210 --> 01:31:15,660
standing practice of filing
cases under the Securities and

1501
01:31:15,660 --> 01:31:19,110
Exchange Act. It uses an
administrative proceeding that

1502
01:31:19,110 --> 01:31:22,290
sends these cases to an
administrative law judge, and

1503
01:31:22,290 --> 01:31:25,710
that Judge reviews evidence,
holds hearings and hears

1504
01:31:25,710 --> 01:31:29,310
arguments. If the defendant
doesn't agree with the decision,

1505
01:31:29,430 --> 01:31:33,000
he has the right to appeal to a
court of appeals, which is what

1506
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:37,110
happened here. So in other
words, he got due process. They

1507
01:31:37,110 --> 01:31:40,470
argued that the Fifth Circuit
made significant errors in its

1508
01:31:40,470 --> 01:31:44,520
ruling, because Congress does in
fact, have the power to appoint

1509
01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:48,360
individual matters to agencies,
even if they involve common law

1510
01:31:48,390 --> 01:31:49,050
issues.

1511
01:31:49,140 --> 01:31:52,560
Adam Curry: This is kind of the
same thing with the IRS, where

1512
01:31:52,590 --> 01:31:55,500
the IRS who have guns by the
way, they've showed up in my

1513
01:31:55,500 --> 01:32:00,120
office with guns. They, you
know, if you want to appeal a

1514
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:04,170
ruling by the IRS, you can but
you got to have like $100,000 to

1515
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:08,190
mount a case, which is why most
people don't do it. But this

1516
01:32:08,190 --> 01:32:11,610
guy's a Wall Street guy. So he
said, Screw it, I'm going for

1517
01:32:11,610 --> 01:32:11,760
it.

1518
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:15,390
John C Dvorak: Okay, part three.

1519
01:32:15,690 --> 01:32:18,750
Unknown: They also argued that
Congress's power to delegate

1520
01:32:18,750 --> 01:32:22,110
matters to agencies doesn't
depend on whether or not the

1521
01:32:22,110 --> 01:32:25,290
case is uniquely suited for
agency review.

1522
01:32:25,590 --> 01:32:27,900
Now, what are some of the
concerns expressed by the

1523
01:32:27,900 --> 01:32:31,440
Supreme Court justices today
during oral argument?

1524
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,830
Well, I think the biggest
concern here is what effect this

1525
01:32:34,830 --> 01:32:38,640
change would ultimately have.
And one of the justices noted

1526
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:43,080
that this involves asking the
court to change the law, and she

1527
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:47,010
expressed concern that it would
require changing the powers of

1528
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:51,030
all federal agencies, Dr.
Casey's attorney said this could

1529
01:32:51,030 --> 01:32:55,050
be fixed by giving the people a
choice of which Tribunal can

1530
01:32:55,050 --> 01:32:58,050
review the case. But I think
many of the justices were

1531
01:32:58,050 --> 01:33:01,020
concerned that the federal
courts would now be burdened

1532
01:33:01,170 --> 01:33:05,460
with an increase of cases. And
actually, some experts have said

1533
01:33:05,460 --> 01:33:09,510
this decision is particularly
troublesome for federal banking

1534
01:33:09,510 --> 01:33:14,610
regulators who solely rely upon
in house tribunals. Those

1535
01:33:14,610 --> 01:33:17,550
regulators don't have the option
to file claims in federal

1536
01:33:17,550 --> 01:33:21,510
courts. But the court today,
Tiffany seems to be considering

1537
01:33:21,510 --> 01:33:25,080
the suggestion that individuals
should have an option to choose

1538
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:25,800
the tribunal.

1539
01:33:27,450 --> 01:33:31,950
Adam Curry: So here is a 40. I
think it's a 45. Second

1540
01:33:31,950 --> 01:33:36,540
explainer from last year,
November last year about the

1541
01:33:36,540 --> 01:33:38,070
Chevron deference case,

1542
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:40,740
Unknown: Tony asks off topic,
but can you explain Chevron

1543
01:33:40,740 --> 01:33:43,470
deference and the rule of
lenity, the Chevron is not a use

1544
01:33:43,470 --> 01:33:46,260
of force doctrine. So it's not
my area of expertise, but just

1545
01:33:46,260 --> 01:33:48,930
you know, general legal
knowledge. Chevron was the

1546
01:33:48,930 --> 01:33:52,200
Supreme Court case in which the
Supreme Court essentially said

1547
01:33:52,230 --> 01:33:55,680
that if there's an
administrative decision by part

1548
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,500
of the executive branch, the EPA
makes some kind of

1549
01:33:58,500 --> 01:34:01,710
administrative decision. It's
not a statute passed by the

1550
01:34:01,710 --> 01:34:05,130
legislature by Congress signed
by the President. It's not a law

1551
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,830
in that sense. It's not case
law. It's not an appellate court

1552
01:34:07,830 --> 01:34:08,190
ruling.

1553
01:34:08,220 --> 01:34:10,920
Adam Curry: It's just the EPA
makes an administrative decision

1554
01:34:10,950 --> 01:34:14,460
that that is treated much as if
it were a statute or was case

1555
01:34:14,460 --> 01:34:17,130
law and is equally binding. The
effect is to give the

1556
01:34:17,130 --> 01:34:20,430
administrative state the
bureaucracy, incredible power

1557
01:34:20,430 --> 01:34:23,310
and authority that many argue I
would argue they should not have

1558
01:34:23,580 --> 01:34:26,640
been so that could go back and
then the administrative state

1559
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:30,240
would have to adhere to the
rules as passed by Congress. And

1560
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:33,720
Congress has to be more
specific, because they Congress

1561
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,970
has to do some work. Yeah,
because they just go Yeah,

1562
01:34:35,970 --> 01:34:38,400
that's good. But we'll let the
EPA figure it out. Well, at the

1563
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,590
IRS figured out but the SEC
figured out

1564
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,310
John C Dvorak: the irony of the
whole Chevron deference case,

1565
01:34:44,310 --> 01:34:47,790
which I think is
underappreciated, especially in

1566
01:34:47,790 --> 01:34:50,790
its ironic for him is that it
came out of the Reagan

1567
01:34:50,790 --> 01:34:55,290
administration. Oh really? And
it came out because because they

1568
01:34:55,290 --> 01:34:59,970
loosened that a Reagan told the
EPA No, no, no, you guys are too

1569
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,230
strict, you've got to pull back
these various, you know, these

1570
01:35:04,230 --> 01:35:07,890
these these requirements of
loosen regulations because it

1571
01:35:07,890 --> 01:35:11,910
was, you know, and so they did
so they loosened regulations and

1572
01:35:11,910 --> 01:35:16,770
got sued for loosening
regulations by dropping the

1573
01:35:16,770 --> 01:35:20,190
standards. They got sued by a
bunch of environmental groups

1574
01:35:20,190 --> 01:35:21,690
that went to the

1575
01:35:21,750 --> 01:35:26,730
Adam Curry: probably Kennedy. It
went betcha

1576
01:35:27,930 --> 01:35:30,660
John C Dvorak: I don't know. But
it went back to the Supreme

1577
01:35:30,660 --> 01:35:35,400
Court. They said, Look, did they
say, look, they said, look,

1578
01:35:37,170 --> 01:35:39,060
here's what we're gonna do,
because they ended up I think

1579
01:35:39,090 --> 01:35:41,700
Chevron got involved by being
sued, because they took

1580
01:35:41,700 --> 01:35:44,760
advantage of the new, looser
regulations. And then they got

1581
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:48,510
sued by the local law,
environmentalists. And they did

1582
01:35:48,510 --> 01:35:50,730
the whole thing went to court
and the Supreme Court said,

1583
01:35:50,730 --> 01:35:55,800
look, look, look. They said,
what, what we have here is a

1584
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:59,010
situation where we have to, we
have all these administrative

1585
01:35:59,010 --> 01:36:05,820
laws it whatever they say goes.
And so if they want to loosen

1586
01:36:05,820 --> 01:36:08,160
the law, fine, if they want to
tighten it fine, and that's the

1587
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,430
way it is. And then that was,
became the Chevron deference.

1588
01:36:11,670 --> 01:36:13,830
And they've sort of they've
environmentalists kind of lost

1589
01:36:13,830 --> 01:36:17,880
the case. But that's where it
started. So nobody thought about

1590
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:21,090
well, instead of going getting
looser and making less

1591
01:36:21,090 --> 01:36:24,420
regulations, because you just do
it on demand. I'm a regulator i

1592
01:36:24,450 --> 01:36:26,670
these regulations, I'm going to
change your mold and nothing.

1593
01:36:27,030 --> 01:36:30,180
You get a bunch of assholes in
there doing crazy stuff, like

1594
01:36:30,210 --> 01:36:33,210
making requirements that are
unobtainable, which is where we

1595
01:36:33,210 --> 01:36:37,620
are now. So now this case is you
know, it's abuse of power. It's

1596
01:36:37,620 --> 01:36:40,350
very interesting, kind of a
switcheroo there, which happens

1597
01:36:40,350 --> 01:36:44,280
is what, what happens when the
or they overdo things

1598
01:36:44,310 --> 01:36:48,570
Adam Curry: since you bring up
Reagan? I watched the Arnold

1599
01:36:48,570 --> 01:36:53,220
Schwarzenegger documentary on
Netflix. Yeah, it's a three

1600
01:36:53,220 --> 01:36:58,140
parter. And for the it's so it's
three hours, basically, the

1601
01:36:58,140 --> 01:37:02,790
first two and a half hours.
You're like, wow, America is

1602
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:06,930
great. What a great country.
Look at this guy. Look at what

1603
01:37:06,930 --> 01:37:11,370
he did look at how America
worked for him. It's just

1604
01:37:11,370 --> 01:37:14,490
everything is beautiful. It's
like apple pie almost is so

1605
01:37:14,490 --> 01:37:18,630
good. It's so beautiful. And
then it gets to the part where

1606
01:37:18,630 --> 01:37:22,290
Arnold Schwarzenegger runs for
reelection as governor of

1607
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:27,570
California. And he goes, he got
he put the this the state in

1608
01:37:27,570 --> 01:37:34,770
debt for $222 billion for solar
crap before climate change,

1609
01:37:34,770 --> 01:37:37,740
because he decided to work. Oh,
I got two hands across the

1610
01:37:37,740 --> 01:37:41,880
aisle. And then he left. I mean,
it was the other states were

1611
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:46,200
worse by the time 2008 came
around. But it's it's really

1612
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:51,120
disappointing to see how this
kind of a good guy got

1613
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:55,680
completely captured because he
tried to be nice, co opted, yes.

1614
01:37:55,680 --> 01:38:01,020
He tried to be nice. And those
exact same climate change rules

1615
01:38:01,170 --> 01:38:04,560
and regulations that he put into
California is what Obama

1616
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:08,220
nationalized. This even this,
it's all in there. Obama won.

1617
01:38:08,220 --> 01:38:12,810
Hey, Arnold was great. Let's do
this for all 50 states. And this

1618
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:13,680
was it was

1619
01:38:13,710 --> 01:38:15,930
John C Dvorak: yeah, thanks to
his wife.

1620
01:38:17,250 --> 01:38:20,010
Adam Curry: Well, he was Maria
and I think they were divorced

1621
01:38:20,010 --> 01:38:20,610
by then.

1622
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,560
John C Dvorak: No, I don't think
so. I think when he first

1623
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:26,280
started with the climate stuff,
he was already Yeah. Could be

1624
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:30,540
could be that was really near
the end when he was Yeah, is

1625
01:38:30,540 --> 01:38:32,820
stupid is made by No,

1626
01:38:32,820 --> 01:38:37,920
Adam Curry: that was that was 96
is when Joseph was born. I mean,

1627
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:39,480
it wasn't no, no,

1628
01:38:39,480 --> 01:38:42,960
John C Dvorak: when he got
caught. Well, it was pretty old.

1629
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:43,080
But

1630
01:38:44,070 --> 01:38:47,940
Adam Curry: he was 14 You know
how that went. So, of course, he

1631
01:38:47,940 --> 01:38:50,310
was, you know, he was the
governor and he was in

1632
01:38:50,310 --> 01:38:54,150
Sacramento. So you know, it's
very difficult on a family, and

1633
01:38:54,150 --> 01:38:59,640
they were going to they were in
therapy together. And one day,

1634
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,250
he's in therapy, and the
therapist says, okay, Maria

1635
01:39:02,250 --> 01:39:05,340
wants to ask you a question. And
she says, yeah, it's Joseph your

1636
01:39:05,340 --> 01:39:07,890
son. And he said, Well, at that
point, I just told the truth.

1637
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,790
And then boom was all over. And
he's it's kind of sad because

1638
01:39:11,790 --> 01:39:15,180
he's alone now. You know, he's,
he's 70.

1639
01:39:16,860 --> 01:39:19,530
John C Dvorak: Donkey that he
lives with the donkeys.

1640
01:39:19,530 --> 01:39:23,670
Adam Curry: They're the donkeys
in the house. Talk he's walking

1641
01:39:23,670 --> 01:39:28,380
around this, it's kind of sad.
The NHS didn't, it was not a

1642
01:39:28,380 --> 01:39:32,400
good ending. But it just shows
that, you know, everything was

1643
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:36,030
great. And then he got co opted
and then just went down the

1644
01:39:36,030 --> 01:39:39,540
tubes. And I can see you know, I
can see his thinking. We got

1645
01:39:39,540 --> 01:39:43,860
soon in California, we should
turn that into energy. Didn't

1646
01:39:43,860 --> 01:39:48,780
work out that way. I'm going to
replay one of the two clips we

1647
01:39:48,780 --> 01:39:52,320
had from Richard Haass with
Morning Joe, which we played a

1648
01:39:52,500 --> 01:39:55,710
week and a half ago because
there is news on the Ukraine

1649
01:39:55,710 --> 01:39:58,470
Russia front that is important
to discuss and there's no clips,

1650
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:00,900
so I'm going to replay This how

1651
01:40:00,900 --> 01:40:04,170
Unknown: long to our allies in
Europe who've all done? I think,

1652
01:40:04,590 --> 01:40:07,890
together, NATO has done an
extraordinary job. How much

1653
01:40:07,890 --> 01:40:16,380
longer? Do we continue pushing?
I think, what what many people

1654
01:40:16,380 --> 01:40:20,520
in Pentagon would think see
unrealistic goal of Ukraine

1655
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:25,680
driving every last Russian out
of out of their country? It's

1656
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,250
exactly the right. Question,
Joe. And what concerns me is

1657
01:40:29,250 --> 01:40:32,250
when people get this solution
and increasingly come to the way

1658
01:40:32,250 --> 01:40:36,330
you were, you and I are, that as
desirable as it is, it's simply

1659
01:40:36,330 --> 01:40:38,790
not feasible. They're going to
increasingly say, and we're

1660
01:40:38,790 --> 01:40:41,370
hearing it in the house, we're
hearing in parts of Europe, why

1661
01:40:41,370 --> 01:40:43,800
should we keep doing this, we're
already stretched, we're trying

1662
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:48,060
to support Israel, we're worried
about Taiwan. And even if we

1663
01:40:48,060 --> 01:40:51,060
give everything we need to give
or want to give to Ukraine, it

1664
01:40:51,060 --> 01:40:55,140
still won't lead to success.
What I argued, therefore, is the

1665
01:40:55,140 --> 01:40:58,590
United States needs to have some
very direct conversations with

1666
01:40:58,590 --> 01:41:02,400
Ukraine with President Solinsky.
Talking about reducing their

1667
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:05,550
emphasis on liberating land
increasingly put all their

1668
01:41:05,550 --> 01:41:09,060
emphasis on holding on to what
they've got, in the long run

1669
01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:11,760
diplomatically through
sanctions, yes, we can try to

1670
01:41:11,790 --> 01:41:14,610
see the rest of their territory
return. But for right now, let's

1671
01:41:14,610 --> 01:41:19,500
have 80% of this country save
80% of this country, rebuilt, I

1672
01:41:19,500 --> 01:41:22,320
would actually propose the
ceasefire as an interim

1673
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:25,950
arrangement to expose the
Russians for what they are, so

1674
01:41:25,950 --> 01:41:29,640
we can rebuild support for
Ukraine and in this country. But

1675
01:41:30,060 --> 01:41:33,360
we've had two fighting seasons,
the idea that one or two or

1676
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:36,480
three more years of this is
going to result in success. I

1677
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:39,240
simply don't see it, Russia is
on a war footing. They have

1678
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:42,780
access all sorts of arms from
North Korea and Iran. So I just

1679
01:41:42,780 --> 01:41:46,320
think, anytime in foreign policy
anytime in life, there's a big

1680
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,440
gap between what you're trying
to do and your ability to do it.

1681
01:41:49,440 --> 01:41:53,040
You've either got to increase
your means or lower your goals.

1682
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:56,070
And I think here the only
realistic option as a tactical

1683
01:41:56,070 --> 01:41:58,680
measure is to lower our goals.
So

1684
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:02,040
Adam Curry: we took that as an
obvious signal to morning, Joe.

1685
01:42:02,550 --> 01:42:02,790
Well,

1686
01:42:02,790 --> 01:42:05,250
John C Dvorak: let's make sure
that we mentioned the fact that

1687
01:42:05,250 --> 01:42:07,680
this guy he was talking to
Morning Joe is the head of the

1688
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,000
Council on Foreign Relations.

1689
01:42:09,300 --> 01:42:12,180
Adam Curry: Big Big Cheese and
he goes on Morning, Joe really?

1690
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,690
So yeah, he makes no sense. He
may even be just be friends.

1691
01:42:16,230 --> 01:42:21,930
With Scarborough say Hey, bro,
like. So now we know that there

1692
01:42:21,930 --> 01:42:26,370
was an article in The Economist
which we missed. And for it to

1693
01:42:26,370 --> 01:42:29,400
be any economist at all, which
is very left leaning with the

1694
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:34,050
new editor who has been there a
couple of years that both the

1695
01:42:34,050 --> 01:42:38,130
nanny most both the military
generals are the leaders of the

1696
01:42:38,130 --> 01:42:41,700
Russian military and the
Ukrainian military, both named

1697
01:42:41,700 --> 01:42:46,890
Valerie interesting Valera
Bhaduri. Have been talking and

1698
01:42:46,890 --> 01:42:51,210
they have decided they're going
to end this thing. Seymour Hersh

1699
01:42:51,210 --> 01:42:54,090
wrote about it and pretty good
substack everyone in Europe is

1700
01:42:54,090 --> 01:42:57,420
talking about this the peace
talks. An American businessman

1701
01:42:57,420 --> 01:43:00,060
who spent years dealing with
high level Ukrainian diplomatic

1702
01:43:00,060 --> 01:43:02,220
and military issues and
government told me earlier this

1703
01:43:02,220 --> 01:43:04,890
week, but there are lots of
questions between the ceasefire

1704
01:43:04,890 --> 01:43:09,870
and the settlement, the veteran
journalist on an Anatol Lieven

1705
01:43:09,990 --> 01:43:12,630
wrote this week that the
battlefield situation Ukraine,

1706
01:43:12,870 --> 01:43:15,240
and the ceasefire negotiations
for peace settlement are

1707
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,300
becoming more and more necessary
for Ukraine. He said that it was

1708
01:43:18,300 --> 01:43:21,060
exceptionally difficult for the
Ukrainian government headed by

1709
01:43:21,060 --> 01:43:24,630
Volodymyr Zelensky. To agree to
talks given his repeated refusal

1710
01:43:24,630 --> 01:43:27,810
to negotiate with Russian
President Vladimir Putin. The

1711
01:43:27,810 --> 01:43:31,290
driving force behind of those
talks has not been Washington or

1712
01:43:31,290 --> 01:43:34,500
Moscow, or Biden or Putin. But
instead the two high ranking

1713
01:43:34,500 --> 01:43:37,860
generals who run the war.
Valerie garish come off of

1714
01:43:37,860 --> 01:43:43,110
Russia and Valerie Zelazny of
Ukraine. And on the table is

1715
01:43:43,110 --> 01:43:46,830
everything that we heard here
from Haas 80%, they'll keep

1716
01:43:46,830 --> 01:43:50,340
their 80% of the 20% that they
have recaptured, which was what

1717
01:43:50,340 --> 01:43:54,300
it was about in the first place.
Interestingly, on the table

1718
01:43:54,300 --> 01:43:58,800
appears to be the allowance for
Ukraine to become a NATO

1719
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:04,620
country, as long as they do not
have any weaponry on the new

1720
01:44:04,620 --> 01:44:09,270
border, as it is now. And it can
be defensive only and that would

1721
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:13,050
be the concession that Putin
makes they keep Crimea, they

1722
01:44:13,050 --> 01:44:18,000
keep the Donbass region and a
NATO can then or Ukraine can

1723
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:22,200
then become a NATO country,
which is like wow, has has Putin

1724
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:27,420
learned nothing, but okay. But
it seems like this is is is

1725
01:44:27,420 --> 01:44:32,280
happening and even in The
Economist, First Lady, Alina

1726
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,370
Zelenka told the economists she
does not want President

1727
01:44:35,370 --> 01:44:38,520
Volodymyr Zelensky to lead and
to lead another term and he

1728
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:43,770
needs to find something new in
life. She doesn't want him to be

1729
01:44:43,770 --> 01:44:48,390
president anymore. So I think
this is feels like this is

1730
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:52,260
John C Dvorak: a handful at
home. She looks like it

1731
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:57,270
Adam Curry: a handful at home.
So it looks like this is really

1732
01:44:57,270 --> 01:44:59,670
happening. It's coming to an
end. Now of course they have to

1733
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,930
Hit I loved the end of Hersha
substack. The two generals may

1734
01:45:06,930 --> 01:45:09,750
continue to talk and Putin may
indeed be interested in a

1735
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:12,030
settlement that gives him
permanent control of Crimea and

1736
01:45:12,030 --> 01:45:15,120
the four provinces he has
claimed. But the Lenski remains

1737
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:18,690
the wildcard, the American
official said that Zelinsky has

1738
01:45:18,690 --> 01:45:21,780
been told that this is a
military to military problem to

1739
01:45:21,780 --> 01:45:24,300
solve and the talks will go on
with or without you, if

1740
01:45:24,300 --> 01:45:28,170
necessary. The American official
told me we can finance his

1741
01:45:28,170 --> 01:45:31,470
voyage to the Caribbean, which
kind of goes in line with those

1742
01:45:31,470 --> 01:45:34,260
two yachts he supposedly just
bought it.

1743
01:45:34,260 --> 01:45:36,330
John C Dvorak: He's got Yes,
he's also got houses all over

1744
01:45:36,330 --> 01:45:39,240
the world. That was a
documentary on YouTube done by

1745
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:43,110
Scott Ritter Ritter. That was
very detailed, and all the

1746
01:45:43,110 --> 01:45:46,230
houses that Zelinsky has managed
to accumulate all over the

1747
01:45:46,230 --> 01:45:49,830
world. So yeah, he can they can
get them out of there if they

1748
01:45:49,860 --> 01:45:53,610
want to. There's I got a weird
Ukraine clip that I wanted to

1749
01:45:53,610 --> 01:45:58,950
play, which is this just off the
wall. I was collecting good news

1750
01:45:58,950 --> 01:46:03,810
clips. And this is from the
Shreveport Louisiana local

1751
01:46:03,810 --> 01:46:08,340
station. And I guess there's a
bunch of and I think, I don't

1752
01:46:08,340 --> 01:46:11,820
know how this isn't a violation
of the Logan Act. I play this

1753
01:46:11,820 --> 01:46:12,330
clip,

1754
01:46:12,390 --> 01:46:15,570
Unknown: the war in Ukraine
rages on and today a delegation

1755
01:46:15,570 --> 01:46:19,110
from the Ukrainian parliament
met in downtown Shreveport to

1756
01:46:19,110 --> 01:46:21,840
inform the public about the
state of the war, and how

1757
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,020
crucial economic investments
from American businesses are

1758
01:46:25,020 --> 01:46:28,380
needed to help rebuild that
country are Madison Edwards

1759
01:46:28,380 --> 01:46:31,170
spoke with members of the
Ukrainian parliament, and he has

1760
01:46:31,170 --> 01:46:34,170
more on what they discuss. So
what was it Madison?

1761
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:37,440
Well, Jeff Louisiana in the
Ukraine share similar port

1762
01:46:37,440 --> 01:46:40,140
exports. That's why the members
of the parliament are asking the

1763
01:46:40,140 --> 01:46:43,410
local tree port citizen to help
their cause and for business

1764
01:46:43,410 --> 01:46:46,800
leaders in the area to invest in
the rebuilding of the nation.

1765
01:46:47,310 --> 01:46:50,820
Louisiana is a major trading
partner of Ukraine, and the

1766
01:46:50,820 --> 01:46:54,120
Ukrainian delegation met in
downtown Shreveport to discuss

1767
01:46:54,150 --> 01:46:57,450
strengthening ties between the
state and Ukraine through

1768
01:46:57,450 --> 01:47:01,590
business, Energy, Agriculture
and humanitarian efforts amid

1769
01:47:01,590 --> 01:47:05,400
the ongoing conflict, Member of
Parliament, David, Eric AMITA

1770
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:08,970
says tree port and Ukraine share
similar business exploits.

1771
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,360
Adam Curry: So the thinking here
is that this is Mike Johnson,

1772
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:15,270
Speaker of the House is home
state. He's their congressman.

1773
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,450
Mike, definitely aware of
getting to him influence

1774
01:47:18,450 --> 01:47:23,520
operation. I mean, they so what
it sounds like is, well, of

1775
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:28,020
course the Biden administration
wants no end. Because let's

1776
01:47:28,170 --> 01:47:30,960
because then the focus will come
back to him and Hunter, which,

1777
01:47:31,170 --> 01:47:33,960
of course, is what we're going
to be wasting our time with for

1778
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:41,460
the next year. Thanks,
Republicans in Congress. That,

1779
01:47:42,060 --> 01:47:45,090
so neither the Biden
administration or the Lensky

1780
01:47:45,090 --> 01:47:50,370
wants to give this up. Give me
credit, man. So we need a

1781
01:47:50,370 --> 01:47:54,810
solution. So everybody can bow
out. And I mean, maybe this is

1782
01:47:54,810 --> 01:47:57,240
something for the curry Devorah
Consulting Group, we need a

1783
01:47:57,240 --> 01:48:00,870
solution to everybody can save
face.

1784
01:48:01,170 --> 01:48:04,560
John C Dvorak: Yeah, a lot of
space saving needed here. This

1785
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,930
report went on for a long time.
I didn't clip the whole thing it

1786
01:48:06,930 --> 01:48:10,710
was I saw it, I saw the whole
thing. Well, the one point that

1787
01:48:10,710 --> 01:48:13,170
they kind of made in there as
these guys is group of

1788
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:18,420
Parliamentarians from, or
parliament members from Ukraine

1789
01:48:18,450 --> 01:48:21,960
are gonna hit like 10 states
along the

1790
01:48:22,350 --> 01:48:23,880
Adam Curry: well. That's part of
the this is part of the

1791
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:25,920
rebuilding. This is the
rebuilding part.

1792
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,560
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
trying to set set the stage but

1793
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:32,910
Well, I think that when it seems
pretty screwy, if he asked me

1794
01:48:32,940 --> 01:48:34,230
the when would be

1795
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:39,240
Adam Curry: Ukraine becoming a
NATO country? That would be that

1796
01:48:39,270 --> 01:48:45,900
that's an obvious win for for
the US. White House. All right.

1797
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:50,820
We got them, but they're nowhere
near being prepared for that.

1798
01:48:52,020 --> 01:48:54,660
Right? Yes. Has Sweden even been
approved yet?

1799
01:48:55,770 --> 01:49:00,390
John C Dvorak: Sweden still, I
think still in in limbo, Finn,

1800
01:49:00,420 --> 01:49:00,870
Finland

1801
01:49:00,870 --> 01:49:07,950
Adam Curry: has near Finland got
their approval. So I mean, they

1802
01:49:07,950 --> 01:49:09,210
need something now.

1803
01:49:10,530 --> 01:49:13,500
John C Dvorak: What's possible
also the following. Let's say

1804
01:49:13,500 --> 01:49:17,940
that deal is done where? Yeah,
you can join NATO. But then but

1805
01:49:17,940 --> 01:49:22,560
joining NATO, NATO does have to
have a majority or not a

1806
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:26,130
majority but a unanimous consent
but all the NATO members,

1807
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:27,150
including Russia,

1808
01:49:28,710 --> 01:49:29,640
Adam Curry: no, I'm just
kidding.

1809
01:49:30,900 --> 01:49:33,060
John C Dvorak: People actually
would would believe this. You

1810
01:49:33,060 --> 01:49:37,440
know, I know. We've seen clips
or oh, I don't know why. We've

1811
01:49:37,440 --> 01:49:41,430
seen clips. But so you do a
behind the scenes deal with

1812
01:49:41,610 --> 01:49:48,450
Turkey, Turkey a turkey a and
tell them hey, Nix this, okay.

1813
01:49:49,620 --> 01:49:54,240
And then you Nix it or even even
Putin could do that deal. I

1814
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,430
mean, somebody could do it
because Turkey doesn't care at

1815
01:49:56,430 --> 01:49:58,950
this point, don't they? They're
the ones screwing up though.

1816
01:49:58,950 --> 01:50:05,010
Sweden. Yeah, yes, yeah. Yeah.
So it's possible that they won't

1817
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,890
I mean, they Yeah, okay. We let
him in but we won't let him in.

1818
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:10,770
Adam Curry: Well, no, we'll let
him in. We're all for good to go

1819
01:50:10,770 --> 01:50:14,040
US Europe. They all say okay,
it's gonna be great. They're

1820
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:18,300
going to be NATO that is the
stepping stone towards full

1821
01:50:18,300 --> 01:50:21,330
European membership, which they
also won't get.

1822
01:50:22,620 --> 01:50:24,960
John C Dvorak: That would be the
worst thing that Europe, Europe.

1823
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:25,620
They don't

1824
01:50:25,620 --> 01:50:28,620
Adam Curry: want another grease
on their hands. So and then

1825
01:50:28,620 --> 01:50:31,560
you're right, then then we were
then we have turkey aid just be

1826
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:37,050
the the foil the foil continuous
foil, like nope, nope, nope,

1827
01:50:37,050 --> 01:50:42,630
nope. But But I mean, it's, it's
a beautiful, it's a beautiful

1828
01:50:42,630 --> 01:50:46,830
thing that is coming to an end.
I'm so happy. We need less war.

1829
01:50:47,700 --> 01:50:48,660
In our lives,

1830
01:50:48,750 --> 01:50:50,730
John C Dvorak: we can deal with
less mess that is just a

1831
01:50:50,730 --> 01:50:53,250
regularization of parts of the
country. Well, they have

1832
01:50:53,250 --> 01:50:55,830
Adam Curry: the rebuilding
projects all good to go. I mean,

1833
01:50:55,860 --> 01:50:58,680
that everybody's ready. And I'm
sure there's money to be made.

1834
01:50:58,710 --> 01:51:02,700
There's tons. Well, there's
money in the in the How about

1835
01:51:02,700 --> 01:51:09,600
that? How about we we give you
rush as money with 300 billion

1836
01:51:09,630 --> 01:51:12,570
that's been on the table for a
long time. I'm sure the Rush has

1837
01:51:12,570 --> 01:51:15,900
written it off. You know,
they're trying to screw Russia

1838
01:51:15,900 --> 01:51:20,880
with the methane bullcrap. So
they could still kind of kind of

1839
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:24,270
have their anti Russian stance.
I mean, there is something new.

1840
01:51:24,750 --> 01:51:28,830
And this was so funny. We've
been through this so many times

1841
01:51:28,830 --> 01:51:31,530
with Russia, but Okay, here it
is one more time

1842
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,560
Unknown: gay clubs across Russia
have been raided just days after

1843
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:38,100
the country ruled the LGBT plus
community was extremist. The

1844
01:51:38,100 --> 01:51:41,130
reports from Moscow followed the
highest court in Russia banning

1845
01:51:41,130 --> 01:51:45,060
what it called the Global LGBTQ
movement. Human rights groups

1846
01:51:45,060 --> 01:51:46,680
have slammed the actions. So
this

1847
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:49,410
Adam Curry: hasn't quite hit in
the US yet. I'm expecting it

1848
01:51:49,410 --> 01:51:54,150
because what happened is 48
hours after the Russian

1849
01:51:54,150 --> 01:51:58,890
government, and really what
they're after is one LGBTQ

1850
01:51:58,890 --> 01:52:04,710
organization, which is a
nonprofit, an NGO, who of

1851
01:52:04,710 --> 01:52:08,880
course, are weaponizing LGBTQ,
just as it's done here in the

1852
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:13,140
US, they say, Hey, you guys are
an extremist organization.

1853
01:52:13,410 --> 01:52:16,890
You're not allowed anymore. If
this is not new, Russia has

1854
01:52:16,890 --> 01:52:20,700
gotten written rid of all kinds
of NGOs, because they usually

1855
01:52:20,700 --> 01:52:24,120
are, you know, agencies,
particularly for the United

1856
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:30,510
States M CIA mi five, mi six, mi
five, mi six. So but this is

1857
01:52:30,510 --> 01:52:34,950
being twisted to say 48 hours
after the after they outlawed

1858
01:52:34,950 --> 01:52:39,750
LGBTQ they they invaded all the
bars, they raided the bars,

1859
01:52:40,440 --> 01:52:43,110
which which was for I guess they
were looking for some they would

1860
01:52:43,110 --> 01:52:46,950
try and do some big drug bust.
So that might catch a storm,

1861
01:52:46,950 --> 01:52:51,840
they might use that. I mean,
that could be a way to refocus

1862
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:56,610
the Palestine energy. Now,
because something has to happen

1863
01:52:56,610 --> 01:53:02,430
with that the Palestine energy
is a problem as a real problem,

1864
01:53:04,110 --> 01:53:09,060
because they're just losing
losing grip over that. So you

1865
01:53:09,060 --> 01:53:12,330
know, we need to remind
everybody that Trump is a

1866
01:53:12,330 --> 01:53:17,640
dictator, and the worst scenario
imaginable in your life is if

1867
01:53:17,850 --> 01:53:21,420
Trump is reelected president,
again, you say Donald Trump, if

1868
01:53:21,420 --> 01:53:24,150
he is, I'm sorry, this is Liz
Cheney on CBS.

1869
01:53:24,180 --> 01:53:27,630
John C Dvorak: You don't waste
anyone even give her a mic.

1870
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,930
Adam Curry: For this reason. And
this reason only, you say Donald

1871
01:53:30,930 --> 01:53:33,180
Unknown: Trump, if he is
reelected, it will be the end of

1872
01:53:33,180 --> 01:53:33,900
the Republic.

1873
01:53:33,930 --> 01:53:37,590
What do you mean, he's done all
this what he will do? It's very

1874
01:53:37,590 --> 01:53:42,180
easy to see the steps that he
will take people who say, Well,

1875
01:53:42,180 --> 01:53:45,510
if he's elected, it's not that
dangerous, because we have all

1876
01:53:45,510 --> 01:53:50,010
of these checks and balances,
don't fully understand the

1877
01:53:50,010 --> 01:53:54,900
extent to which the Republicans
in Congress today have been co

1878
01:53:54,900 --> 01:53:59,430
opted. One of the things that we
see happening today is a sort of

1879
01:53:59,430 --> 01:54:05,280
a sleepwalking into dictatorship
in the United States

1880
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:06,180
dictatorship.

1881
01:54:06,180 --> 01:54:09,000
Adam Curry: It's a replay. It's
whenever you play Rocket

1882
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:11,970
John C Dvorak: crap, when
everyone was lapping it up like

1883
01:54:11,970 --> 01:54:13,080
there's no tomorrow

1884
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,830
Adam Curry: is Liz Cheney. Liz
Cheney

1885
01:54:16,830 --> 01:54:21,270
John C Dvorak: has got to be the
lowest form of human. Well,

1886
01:54:21,270 --> 01:54:26,880
there was a Gavin Newsom is
DeSantis the bay which was a

1887
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:28,890
complete waste of an hour and a
half 5

1888
01:54:28,890 --> 01:54:32,730
Adam Curry: million viewers,
apparently. Yeah, well, that's

1889
01:54:33,270 --> 01:54:34,560
more than I expected.

1890
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:39,870
John C Dvorak: And it is not a
slouch. Drew, so I didn't clip

1891
01:54:39,900 --> 01:54:43,110
any of it and I wasn't about
you. And it was a lot of talking

1892
01:54:43,110 --> 01:54:51,780
over each other. But I did get a
15 second clip of Capehart who

1893
01:54:51,780 --> 01:54:54,990
saw the clip who saw the whole
thing and he had all these

1894
01:54:54,990 --> 01:54:59,640
things to say about it and, and
he did this little ditty

1895
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:03,330
Unknown: he Think that Governor
Newsom appearance though, helps

1896
01:55:03,330 --> 01:55:05,250
the campaign of President Biden
in any way?

1897
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:09,570
I do, because when you and I
watched the debate, every almost

1898
01:55:09,570 --> 01:55:13,680
every, in every sentence, it was
Biden, Harris Biden, Harris

1899
01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:14,940
Biden, Harris, President Harris.

1900
01:55:16,890 --> 01:55:23,790
Adam Curry: It was promotion was
a promotion. That was great.

1901
01:55:24,270 --> 01:55:28,050
Well, here's the here's boots on
the ground. What's happening?

1902
01:55:28,530 --> 01:55:33,600
Chicago, which now is finally
building migrant camps in the

1903
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:38,430
city, with the huge tents, which
should have been up a long time

1904
01:55:38,430 --> 01:55:43,080
ago, because it's 16 degrees in
Chicago, and all the migrants

1905
01:55:43,110 --> 01:55:46,260
who have been partially bussed
in from Texas, but others have

1906
01:55:46,260 --> 01:55:49,950
been flown in. And others choose
willingly to go

1907
01:55:49,950 --> 01:55:52,470
John C Dvorak: to Chicago. Yes.

1908
01:55:53,610 --> 01:55:57,840
Adam Curry: But these tents,
which will house I think, a

1909
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:04,680
couple of 1000 migrants are in
black neighborhoods. We've been

1910
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:08,520
following this for a while.
Yeah. And and this is not very,

1911
01:56:08,580 --> 01:56:11,850
this has now come to a head
where the black Chicagoans are

1912
01:56:11,850 --> 01:56:13,950
saying we're voting Republican,

1913
01:56:14,220 --> 01:56:16,860
Unknown: and any Republican
candidate, inner city of

1914
01:56:16,860 --> 01:56:21,120
Chicago, now is your time,
because we are done with the

1915
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:21,720
democratic.

1916
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:35,370
Black community. So we're here
today to say, Okay, if that's

1917
01:56:35,370 --> 01:56:39,330
what we were, we don't have to
support the Democratic Party.

1918
01:56:39,420 --> 01:56:43,860
Right, right. We don't have to
continue to support people who

1919
01:56:43,860 --> 01:56:47,760
are not going to support us. And
the Democratic Party, here in

1920
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:51,480
this city, in this state, and in
this country is not supported.

1921
01:56:52,170 --> 01:56:56,190
You got Republicans and
Democrats on the other side,

1922
01:56:56,280 --> 01:57:02,040
guess what, they are part of the
same birthright. It doesn't

1923
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:07,050
matter anymore which party we go
with. But I tell you this, I

1924
01:57:07,050 --> 01:57:10,650
read the deal with the snake
that outfit himself of the

1925
01:57:10,650 --> 01:57:13,620
Republican Party, then the snake
that's coming up in the

1926
01:57:13,620 --> 01:57:18,630
Democrat. We continue to stay up
with this. We're gonna continue

1927
01:57:18,750 --> 01:57:22,380
to allow our state
representatives, our congressmen

1928
01:57:23,580 --> 01:57:31,830
and our mayor you got to show us
the way that we got to show you

1929
01:57:32,670 --> 01:57:36,270
a great day in the city of
Chicago when a Democratic

1930
01:57:36,270 --> 01:57:41,280
Convention comes here that a lot
of black voters took Republicans

1931
01:57:42,300 --> 01:57:44,130
deal with that. We deal

1932
01:57:44,130 --> 01:57:48,030
Adam Curry: with that. Yeah,
that's right. The convention

1933
01:57:48,030 --> 01:57:51,060
coming in March in Chicago.
Every

1934
01:57:51,060 --> 01:57:53,580
John C Dvorak: time you went to
Chicago, it becomes a riot. Riot

1935
01:57:53,580 --> 01:57:57,330
is situation. Marketing back to
the 68 convention.

1936
01:57:57,570 --> 01:58:02,220
Adam Curry: It's a cycle. It
must be how many years is

1937
01:58:02,910 --> 01:58:07,230
John C Dvorak: 60 years it'd be
40 years, 60 years? 60 years

1938
01:58:07,230 --> 01:58:12,180
cycle? Just like the certain
stock market moves? Yeah. So you

1939
01:58:12,180 --> 01:58:15,960
have 60 years later, you get a
you know about 60

1940
01:58:16,050 --> 01:58:18,690
Adam Curry: It'll be ready to be
a real bad look. If the cops are

1941
01:58:18,690 --> 01:58:20,970
beaten blackheads. I'll tell you
that. Well, they will. They'll

1942
01:58:20,970 --> 01:58:22,950
be beaten up. Yeah, but it'd be
a bad look.

1943
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:24,960
John C Dvorak: That was a bad
look. When they're beaten the

1944
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,210
students and six good Democrats,
hey,

1945
01:58:27,540 --> 01:58:31,440
Adam Curry: we need to bring
that back. Beat students. We

1946
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:35,880
need to bring that back that
crazy. This beat the beat them

1947
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:40,920
students meet them students. One
of our producers, was intrigued

1948
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:44,400
by our discussion of potential
vice presidential picks

1949
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:47,220
John C Dvorak: for President
Trump. We have a we have pics

1950
01:58:47,220 --> 01:58:48,870
coming in. Well, we have.

1951
01:58:49,140 --> 01:58:51,690
Adam Curry: He has the odds. He
has the oddsmakers from the

1952
01:58:51,690 --> 01:58:55,080
sports bet in Australia, which I
thought was interesting, but

1953
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:59,220
this is interesting. Okay. So I
guess the lowest number is the

1954
01:58:59,220 --> 01:59:03,960
most likely right. So it's one
in six. That's that that is more

1955
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:09,030
likely than one in 40. Correct?
Yeah. Okay. All right. So in

1956
01:59:09,030 --> 01:59:14,160
order of appearance, one in six,
Kristi, noem from she's South

1957
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:15,720
Dakota. Yep.

1958
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:18,030
John C Dvorak: South Dakota
governor. One

1959
01:59:18,030 --> 01:59:24,630
Adam Curry: in 6.5. Elise
Stefanik, which was unknown to

1960
01:59:24,630 --> 01:59:26,220
me. But

1961
01:59:27,150 --> 01:59:28,680
John C Dvorak: I've heard her
name but I can't think of what

1962
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:31,350
she is. She didn't know where
the Aussies came up with this.

1963
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:32,220
Well, they'll

1964
01:59:32,220 --> 01:59:33,090
Adam Curry: better look.

1965
01:59:33,660 --> 01:59:34,080
John C Dvorak: I know

1966
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:35,520
Adam Curry: they'll bet on
anything because they got

1967
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:38,610
nothing better to do in
Australia than bet on gun

1968
01:59:38,610 --> 01:59:42,390
countries dead countries. Sorry
Aussies, but you got screwed.

1969
01:59:42,810 --> 01:59:47,760
She is a Republican
congresswoman from New York.

1970
01:59:48,780 --> 01:59:51,210
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, I know
who she is. She's the she hasn't

1971
01:59:51,210 --> 01:59:53,010
got a prayer. Okay.

1972
01:59:54,120 --> 02:00:01,380
Adam Curry: 1721 Vivec Ramaswamy
then it goes to 10 In 110, Nikki

1973
02:00:01,380 --> 02:00:08,070
Haley, then we go one and 12 Tim
Scott tied with Tucker Carlson.

1974
02:00:08,970 --> 02:00:10,170
John C Dvorak: No brother.

1975
02:00:10,380 --> 02:00:12,420
Adam Curry: I know this is why
Australia goes off the rails.

1976
02:00:12,660 --> 02:00:16,320
Then it one in 14 Kerry Lake.
Sarah her

1977
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:19,770
John C Dvorak: legacy has been a
lot of people are pushing Carrie

1978
02:00:19,770 --> 02:00:20,310
lake.

1979
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:24,660
Adam Curry: I don't think
President Trump wants her to

1980
02:00:25,170 --> 02:00:27,480
possibly upstage him and certain
guests

1981
02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:30,030
John C Dvorak: she's enough
stager. No doubt about that

1982
02:00:30,030 --> 02:00:30,330
she's

1983
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:32,580
Adam Curry: upstage or yeah,
that that could be a problem.

1984
02:00:33,630 --> 02:00:38,220
Then my my potential pick one
and 21 so those odds are not

1985
02:00:38,220 --> 02:00:41,970
good Sarah Huckabee Sanders. And
then we get into just you know,

1986
02:00:41,970 --> 02:00:45,600
like Marsha Blackburn, Marjorie
Taylor Greene, Ben Carson.

1987
02:00:45,900 --> 02:00:50,970
Gregory Abbott know that Marco
Rubio I mean, it just I mean it

1988
02:00:50,970 --> 02:00:57,810
let's see odds it. One in 41 is
Tulsi Gabbard. Bobby, the

1989
02:00:57,810 --> 02:01:03,930
opposite 41 JD Vance at 41. So
the odds have it a Kristi, Noem,

1990
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:08,730
at least a phonic that says she
couldn't be. She's definitely

1991
02:01:08,730 --> 02:01:12,180
had made the writing Kristi,
noem being a good candidate.

1992
02:01:12,420 --> 02:01:16,260
Man. The South Dakotans are not
happy with her. They're loud.

1993
02:01:16,260 --> 02:01:20,160
What? No, they just haven't been
a. Craig who's one of our

1994
02:01:20,190 --> 02:01:21,660
producers. She braised

1995
02:01:21,660 --> 02:01:23,610
John C Dvorak: a lot about being
the greatest governor in South

1996
02:01:23,610 --> 02:01:25,170
Dakota in the history of the
state.

1997
02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:26,880
Adam Curry: Now they have all
kinds of issues where there's

1998
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:29,910
lots of stuff she's done that
the South Dakotans don't like

1999
02:01:30,540 --> 02:01:34,320
particularly the conservatives
that I'll have Craig Wright

2000
02:01:34,350 --> 02:01:36,840
credited Weinberg to have him
write write it up the write it

2001
02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:39,990
up for me the he'll tell me
succinctly what it is but I know

2002
02:01:39,990 --> 02:01:44,910
because that's when Megan Kelly
last last time I was on emphasis

2003
02:01:44,910 --> 02:01:46,560
on last time I was on

2004
02:01:47,550 --> 02:01:49,440
John C Dvorak: the last time
you're on yeah she's like

2005
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:52,050
Adam Curry: Christie Christie no
my sadness out the colons don't

2006
02:01:52,050 --> 02:01:54,180
like it that's not true. Okay
Megan

2007
02:01:56,700 --> 02:02:00,240
John C Dvorak: your your
invitation of Kelly is almost

2008
02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:04,350
spot on. I mean, I can't tell if
you're if if she's actually in

2009
02:02:04,350 --> 02:02:05,880
the studio with you I know

2010
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:09,630
Adam Curry: it's like we
switched over to New York. She's

2011
02:02:09,630 --> 02:02:16,200
now going into acting to make it
no no Megan Kelly Yeah,

2012
02:02:16,260 --> 02:02:21,090
everyone's okay so daily wire up
doing movie projects now that's

2013
02:02:21,090 --> 02:02:25,530
what that CEO guy is roaring
always want to do. So I guess

2014
02:02:25,530 --> 02:02:26,940
they're doing a district

2015
02:02:26,940 --> 02:02:30,840
John C Dvorak: who I'm reminded
of, of remembering Yahoo was run

2016
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:35,340
by that guy from Hollywood. What
was his name? Start with a bee I

2017
02:02:35,340 --> 02:02:38,730
think I can't remember somebody
that did a troll room might

2018
02:02:38,730 --> 02:02:41,700
remember it was but he was such
a Hollywood he was going to turn

2019
02:02:41,700 --> 02:02:44,940
everything into like he was
gonna start using Yahoo money to

2020
02:02:44,940 --> 02:02:46,200
produce movies.

2021
02:02:46,230 --> 02:02:48,840
Adam Curry: Yeah, and then and
then they finally spent all this

2022
02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:51,480
time in LA and never was up
here. Yeah, and then they threw

2023
02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:55,020
the whole thing to Marissa Meyer
and just let it go to crap.

2024
02:02:55,770 --> 02:02:56,130
John C Dvorak: Yeah,

2025
02:02:56,550 --> 02:02:58,590
Adam Curry: what was the name of
what was that guy and he was a

2026
02:02:58,590 --> 02:03:02,850
real Hollywood guy. troll him
doesn't know anyway, so daily

2027
02:03:02,850 --> 02:03:07,440
wire doesn't know that stuns me
of trolls not paying attention

2028
02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:11,040
the trolling that's what they
do. They're too young they're

2029
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:15,210
too young to know this stuff. I
mean, we could look it up I

2030
02:03:15,210 --> 02:03:19,740
mean, let's see your hair. Yeah,
now I gotta know Yahoo. Let's

2031
02:03:19,740 --> 02:03:26,460
do. Terry, wasn't it Terry
something Terry

2032
02:03:26,460 --> 02:03:27,840
John C Dvorak: son Terry. Terry.

2033
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:32,910
Adam Curry: Terry. Terry Semel,
Terry Semel. I did that from

2034
02:03:32,910 --> 02:03:38,310
memory. Well, good for you very
much. Anyway, so the boring

2035
02:03:38,310 --> 02:03:42,990
company a boring if the boring
company boring the CEO of daily

2036
02:03:42,990 --> 02:03:47,700
wire. So he's all on the movie
tip. And so they're doing an

2037
02:03:47,700 --> 02:03:51,180
animated short or as series
which I think that's what Megan

2038
02:03:51,180 --> 02:03:54,300
is going to be acting in. And of
course, what everyone's talking

2039
02:03:54,300 --> 02:03:58,620
about is Lady ballers. The
movie. You heard about Lady

2040
02:03:58,620 --> 02:04:02,430
ballers have me? Yeah, yeah. And
I and I think this is a mistake

2041
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:09,450
to be honest about I think it's
counterproductive. Now I like

2042
02:04:09,450 --> 02:04:10,320
humor. What

2043
02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:11,700
John C Dvorak: What's What's the
mistake?

2044
02:04:14,820 --> 02:04:17,070
Adam Curry: If they're what is
their mission? Is that missing?

2045
02:04:17,070 --> 02:04:17,550
Just have

2046
02:04:17,580 --> 02:04:19,890
John C Dvorak: no I met you what
you're saying you're like the

2047
02:04:19,890 --> 02:04:22,500
guy who owns a little store in
the corner and the guy across

2048
02:04:22,500 --> 02:04:26,400
the street selling junk jewelry.
So you sell junk junk jewelry,

2049
02:04:26,490 --> 02:04:29,760
and then another guy down the
street does knife sharpening. So

2050
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:33,390
you do knife sharpening and
pretty soon, the store that you

2051
02:04:33,390 --> 02:04:37,440
started to sell something or
other is now just a store full

2052
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:40,200
of different junk processes.

2053
02:04:40,500 --> 02:04:42,720
Adam Curry: Wow, I hadn't
thought of explaining it that

2054
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:44,250
way. Well, that's what

2055
02:04:44,250 --> 02:04:49,020
John C Dvorak: it is. Know what
your do and do it. Well. So this

2056
02:04:49,020 --> 02:04:51,630
is all of a sudden, well, you
know, while we're at it, why

2057
02:04:51,630 --> 02:04:53,490
don't we do this in that now?

2058
02:04:53,820 --> 02:04:57,120
Adam Curry: Well, so they have
some big names that they have in

2059
02:04:57,120 --> 02:05:01,980
this in this movie. Then it's an
anti woke move. v. And, you

2060
02:05:01,980 --> 02:05:08,640
know, it's like it just seems
like why do you you're doing

2061
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:11,190
John C Dvorak: an anti woke
movies as bad as doing a woke

2062
02:05:11,190 --> 02:05:11,700
movie?

2063
02:05:13,830 --> 02:05:16,350
Adam Curry: Oh, there you go.
That's it was just as bad as

2064
02:05:16,350 --> 02:05:16,950
doing getting

2065
02:05:16,950 --> 02:05:19,050
John C Dvorak: politics out of
it. I mean, that's what you're

2066
02:05:19,050 --> 02:05:20,850
talking about. Yeah,

2067
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:22,530
Adam Curry: I think you're I
think that's that's what I'm

2068
02:05:22,530 --> 02:05:26,370
saying. Yeah. Is that Yeah,
let's do a good movie. There he

2069
02:05:26,370 --> 02:05:26,610
goes,

2070
02:05:26,850 --> 02:05:28,800
John C Dvorak: right making
good, good, entertaining.

2071
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:32,640
Adam Curry: Joy. That's the
movie. We'll all enjoy watching

2072
02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:37,080
that everybody can go and watch.
But I guess that's what Barbie

2073
02:05:37,080 --> 02:05:37,590
was.

2074
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:41,880
John C Dvorak: Maybe a lot of
everybody went and watched it.

2075
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:42,600
Yeah, it was.

2076
02:05:42,630 --> 02:05:45,000
Adam Curry: I still have. I
still haven't seen it. I can't

2077
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:46,110
bring myself to watch. You

2078
02:05:46,110 --> 02:05:48,630
John C Dvorak: won't get past
that. You will not get it over

2079
02:05:48,780 --> 02:05:52,590
1020 minutes into his No way.
No, I'm because it's silly. It's

2080
02:05:52,590 --> 02:05:58,740
a silly promotional film. Yes.
Yes. It's very pink though. And

2081
02:05:58,740 --> 02:06:02,880
I will say this when the Oscars
come out if they don't give set

2082
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:08,220
decoration or art director to
the person who did that movie

2083
02:06:08,460 --> 02:06:12,330
screwing up because it is
Stunning. Stunning.

2084
02:06:13,470 --> 02:06:16,050
Adam Curry: So before we take a
break, I think we should

2085
02:06:16,050 --> 02:06:23,250
probably discuss Israel and
Hamas lips. Yeah, let me let me

2086
02:06:23,250 --> 02:06:26,490
kick this off with the Morning
Joe clip just to get us into the

2087
02:06:26,490 --> 02:06:27,150
mood a little

2088
02:06:27,150 --> 02:06:29,790
Unknown: deeper into the New
York Times report that Israel

2089
02:06:29,790 --> 02:06:35,490
new Hamas was planning a wide
scale assault a year before the

2090
02:06:35,490 --> 02:06:40,080
October 7 terrorist attack one
year, according to the Israeli

2091
02:06:40,080 --> 02:06:44,790
officials obtained an
approximately 40 page document,

2092
02:06:45,180 --> 02:06:50,970
which they codenamed as Ed said
Jericho wall. It outlined point

2093
02:06:50,970 --> 02:06:55,410
by point exactly the kind of
devastating invasion that led to

2094
02:06:55,410 --> 02:07:00,570
the deaths of about 1200 people
probably many more. The Times

2095
02:07:00,570 --> 02:07:04,470
writes Israeli military and
intelligence officials dismissed

2096
02:07:04,470 --> 02:07:08,670
the plan as aspirational,
considering it too difficult for

2097
02:07:08,670 --> 02:07:10,950
Hamas to carry out. Well.

2098
02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:14,340
The problem with that is and
we're going to talk to Jackie

2099
02:07:14,340 --> 02:07:17,100
about this very soon water
behind this right. The problem

2100
02:07:17,100 --> 02:07:24,540
with that is that Israel needs
us funding. We need to know what

2101
02:07:24,540 --> 02:07:29,430
were are we funding Benjamin
Netanyahu? are we funding his

2102
02:07:29,430 --> 02:07:34,470
designs to stay in power? are we
funding an operation where we

2103
02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:37,800
have to look and guess Okay,
well, is this for the in the

2104
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:41,430
best interest of Israeli people?
Or is it this in the best

2105
02:07:41,430 --> 02:07:45,840
interest of a Prime Minister who
deliberately focused on the West

2106
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:53,280
Bank deliberately turned a blind
eye to this plan for a year, a

2107
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:58,140
year where it's specifically
laid out? So I'm not so sure

2108
02:07:58,560 --> 02:08:03,450
that Congress and the President
want to approve even more money

2109
02:08:03,450 --> 02:08:07,380
for Israel? Until we know that
there's actually somebody

2110
02:08:07,380 --> 02:08:11,610
wanting Israel there it is that
even the Israeli support the

2111
02:08:11,610 --> 02:08:14,520
Israelis don't trust Benjamin
Netanyahu.

2112
02:08:14,550 --> 02:08:17,400
Adam Curry: I think this is the
way they want to manage this

2113
02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:23,100
crisis. Because you can't gene
change us You can't hate the

2114
02:08:23,100 --> 02:08:28,830
Jews but everybody can hate Bibi
that's an easy one being even

2115
02:08:28,860 --> 02:08:33,000
our own lives like screw Bibi
Netanyahu he's no good and now

2116
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:35,850
it's like all we don't want to
be funding him. Yes, regime

2117
02:08:35,850 --> 02:08:40,920
change, which would make the
woke Israeli population very

2118
02:08:40,920 --> 02:08:41,460
happy.

2119
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:48,270
John C Dvorak: This Yeah, this
is interesting, because we

2120
02:08:48,270 --> 02:08:51,690
already had Richard Haass, no,
this is a we know there's a

2121
02:08:51,690 --> 02:08:55,620
conduit between the Council on
Foreign Relations and this

2122
02:08:55,620 --> 02:09:01,050
stupid show. So this is just
this is the talking points from

2123
02:09:01,050 --> 02:09:05,250
the CFR Yep. We have to assume
that I think so. The talking

2124
02:09:05,250 --> 02:09:09,870
points are the souls of the CFR
wants to get rid of maybe for

2125
02:09:09,870 --> 02:09:13,410
whatever reason and this bull
crap with this report like oh,

2126
02:09:13,410 --> 02:09:15,720
and he kept ignoring it day
after day as like as though they

2127
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:18,660
were shoving in his face every
single day and his knack get

2128
02:09:18,660 --> 02:09:21,750
that out of there. He looked at
it like a million other reports

2129
02:09:21,750 --> 02:09:24,570
you get when you're in a job
like that, and they come pass

2130
02:09:24,570 --> 02:09:26,520
your desk and Oh, that's
interesting. Oh, that's

2131
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:28,890
interesting isn't different one
every day and they're all doing

2132
02:09:28,890 --> 02:09:31,740
different things. You choose one
or the other. And your guys are

2133
02:09:31,740 --> 02:09:34,560
supposed to tell you what's
important and what's not. And if

2134
02:09:34,560 --> 02:09:37,020
the head of the chief of
intelligence tells you this is

2135
02:09:37,020 --> 02:09:39,450
going to happen, you take it
seriously, but it's just some

2136
02:09:39,450 --> 02:09:42,660
random thing to go through. i
This is bullcrap. I

2137
02:09:42,660 --> 02:09:48,450
Adam Curry: think they can make
him the new Putin. He's he has

2138
02:09:48,450 --> 02:09:51,060
the face for it. Let's be
honest.

2139
02:09:51,450 --> 02:09:53,910
John C Dvorak: By the way, he's
looking like he's getting

2140
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:55,290
getting time as you were

2141
02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:58,860
Adam Curry: getting tired.
You're tired. Like I didn't talk

2142
02:09:58,860 --> 02:09:59,340
like this.

2143
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,250
John C Dvorak: So they're gonna
oust him in some way shape or

2144
02:10:02,250 --> 02:10:03,450
form and but

2145
02:10:03,450 --> 02:10:08,340
Adam Curry: also focus the
energy not on Israel but on Bibi

2146
02:10:08,340 --> 02:10:12,900
Netanyahu that is that's a way
out of this they need a way out

2147
02:10:14,310 --> 02:10:14,880
they be

2148
02:10:16,529 --> 02:10:20,339
John C Dvorak: phony baloney
report is a ruse is a great idea

2149
02:10:20,369 --> 02:10:20,729
yes

2150
02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:23,580
Adam Curry: that's there you go
that's our CIA sometimes the

2151
02:10:24,180 --> 02:10:24,780
whole report

2152
02:10:24,780 --> 02:10:27,210
John C Dvorak: could be both for
all we know could be bogus

2153
02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:30,180
everything he said we don't know
any of it to be true that he

2154
02:10:30,180 --> 02:10:34,770
kept ignoring the report lab lab
law we don't know that one thing

2155
02:10:34,770 --> 02:10:39,660
he says Scarborough borough said
we don't know that one. Any one

2156
02:10:39,660 --> 02:10:41,280
item is actually true.

2157
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:44,190
Adam Curry: Oh, it's
unnecessary. We know that Russia

2158
02:10:44,190 --> 02:10:48,750
Russia Russia very perfect phone
call very fine people come on we

2159
02:10:48,750 --> 02:10:50,550
don't need that. It

2160
02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:53,580
Unknown: just repeats very fine
for my favorite

2161
02:10:53,610 --> 02:10:56,580
Adam Curry: that's repeated over
Dave Rubin tried to correct that

2162
02:10:56,580 --> 02:10:59,070
on he was on with Bill a Bill
Maher where

2163
02:10:59,070 --> 02:11:01,380
John C Dvorak: there's always
somebody trying to correct it to

2164
02:11:01,380 --> 02:11:03,780
no avail. Yeah, and he was on
with

2165
02:11:05,460 --> 02:11:09,270
Adam Curry: what's the old the
old coot the USMC, hoodie pink

2166
02:11:09,270 --> 02:11:15,030
hoodie wearing guy used to be
married to Mary matalin. Guy

2167
02:11:15,060 --> 02:11:17,700
Yeah, the bald guy. The old
Cucamonga ball old

2168
02:11:17,700 --> 02:11:18,390
John C Dvorak: fart. Yeah.

2169
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:21,780
Adam Curry: Yeah. And he was
like, very fine people. And Dave

2170
02:11:21,780 --> 02:11:24,870
Rubin is like, well, you know,
he's and just everyone laughed

2171
02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:27,750
over him. Dave Rubin could not
could not could not get the

2172
02:11:27,750 --> 02:11:30,960
correction in. No, we're not
going to happen. James Carville.

2173
02:11:30,990 --> 02:11:31,440
Thank you.

2174
02:11:31,620 --> 02:11:35,130
John C Dvorak: Carville. Yeah
Harville Yeah, yeah, no,

2175
02:11:35,160 --> 02:11:37,500
Adam Curry: no no you can't even
under I couldn't clip it because

2176
02:11:37,500 --> 02:11:42,300
you can't understand you say
pretty much like that. Yeah, you

2177
02:11:42,300 --> 02:11:46,650
can't understand them anymore.
Can't Alright, so what clip Do

2178
02:11:46,650 --> 02:11:48,600
you have what clips do you have
about this? Well, I

2179
02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:51,600
John C Dvorak: got the update
the as of yesterday, update on

2180
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:54,900
the on the whole thing. Of
course it's from PBS and so it

2181
02:11:54,900 --> 02:12:00,660
will have a certain anti Jew a
Jew hate slant, but it's okay.

2182
02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:08,580
This is the guys update. elitist
voices of America. This is NPR

2183
02:12:09,570 --> 02:12:10,650
where PBS

2184
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:13,290
Unknown: tonight hopes for
another pause in the fighting in

2185
02:12:13,290 --> 02:12:17,250
Gaza anytime soon have dimmed
considerably. Israeli Prime

2186
02:12:17,250 --> 02:12:20,280
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
ordered his negotiators home

2187
02:12:20,280 --> 02:12:24,240
from Qatar, saying the talks
there had hit a dead end since

2188
02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:27,330
fighting resumed at least 200
Palestinians have been killed

2189
02:12:27,540 --> 02:12:30,270
bringing the death toll since
October 7. That's more than

2190
02:12:30,270 --> 02:12:35,280
15,200 Those numbers from the
Hamas run Gaza health ministry.

2191
02:12:35,670 --> 02:12:38,670
Meanwhile, the focus of Israel's
renewed aerial bombardment of

2192
02:12:38,670 --> 02:12:45,720
Gaza has shifted from the North.
Yeah, in the snap pops,

2193
02:12:45,750 --> 02:12:48,180
Adam Curry: we gotta remind
everybody NAT pops that's what

2194
02:12:48,180 --> 02:12:50,370
you do as a video editor. Good
work, Israel's

2195
02:12:50,370 --> 02:12:53,190
Unknown: renewed aerial
bombardment of Gaza has shifted

2196
02:12:53,190 --> 02:13:00,120
from the north. In the southern
Gaza City of Khan Yunis, the

2197
02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:04,350
streets are engulfed in smoke.
The Israeli military has dropped

2198
02:13:04,350 --> 02:13:07,470
leaflets urging residents of the
city and the surrounding area to

2199
02:13:07,470 --> 02:13:11,370
evacuate further south but
beleaguered Gaza and say there

2200
02:13:11,370 --> 02:13:17,370
is nowhere to go. They seek
refuge wherever they can find it

2201
02:13:17,370 --> 02:13:21,450
like this makeshift camp outside
all Nasr hospital, settled them

2202
02:13:21,450 --> 02:13:22,140
in nearly flat

2203
02:13:22,140 --> 02:13:25,740
the North before coming here. We
went to various places. There's

2204
02:13:25,740 --> 02:13:27,300
no safe place in Gaza.

2205
02:13:28,830 --> 02:13:33,900
Our houses are gone. Our
property is gone. Our money is

2206
02:13:33,900 --> 02:13:38,670
gone. Some died some handicapped
in the hospital. What is left to

2207
02:13:38,670 --> 02:13:43,260
cry for? And then they tell us
we will get aid. Where is it? As

2208
02:13:43,260 --> 02:13:46,920
the wounded fill Oh, Nasr
hospital today that aid 50

2209
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:49,920
trucks will according to the
Palestine Red Crescent Society

2210
02:13:50,190 --> 02:13:53,550
enter through the Rafah crossing
along the Egyptian border. The

2211
02:13:53,550 --> 02:13:57,690
first relief since the ceasefire
ended Friday. Yesterday, Israel

2212
02:13:57,690 --> 02:13:59,700
had blocked me from getting into
Gaza.

2213
02:14:00,840 --> 02:14:04,200
Adam Curry: It's interesting
that Sir Brian of London is in

2214
02:14:04,440 --> 02:14:09,870
Israel. He's been giving me his
boots on the ground. Yes. On

2215
02:14:09,870 --> 02:14:13,440
Friday, he sends me a text
message. He says well ceasefires

2216
02:14:13,440 --> 02:14:16,860
over rockets are incoming. But I
didn't hear anybody report on

2217
02:14:16,860 --> 02:14:17,370
that.

2218
02:14:18,540 --> 02:14:21,660
John C Dvorak: I heard one
report of rockets. But they

2219
02:14:21,660 --> 02:14:24,930
cease before the season was
over. Before it was over. They

2220
02:14:24,930 --> 02:14:28,320
started launching rockets. Yeah,
Israel. Yeah. Now the thing

2221
02:14:28,320 --> 02:14:30,930
about these reports and all of
them have the same thing. It's

2222
02:14:30,930 --> 02:14:36,240
the it's the Palestinian health
authorities that has the the

2223
02:14:36,240 --> 02:14:40,230
head counter the dead. What is
that all about? But they're the

2224
02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:43,200
Adam Curry: they're the
authority. The

2225
02:14:43,200 --> 02:14:45,390
John C Dvorak: Health Authority,
they're not the death authority.

2226
02:14:45,390 --> 02:14:48,330
They're not the government.
Well, the health they find it

2227
02:14:48,330 --> 02:14:52,530
peculiar that this one done
agency or who knows who they

2228
02:14:52,530 --> 02:14:55,830
are. This is got the death
counts, but they got probably

2229
02:14:55,830 --> 02:14:57,690
Adam Curry: some guy in an
apartment in London,

2230
02:14:58,770 --> 02:15:02,130
John C Dvorak: you know, to say
Same thing, like the Syrian

2231
02:15:02,460 --> 02:15:05,760
Adam Curry: guy, forget who that
was. Right? That was a girl. No,

2232
02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:08,880
no, no, it's the Syrian guy who
was the authority. And he was in

2233
02:15:08,880 --> 02:15:11,520
London and he's, he's making

2234
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:13,530
John C Dvorak: it up as he goes
along. So okay, that's good.

2235
02:15:13,530 --> 02:15:14,100
Part two of

2236
02:15:14,100 --> 02:15:16,800
Unknown: Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu said the

2237
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:20,970
fighting would not stop until
Israel meets its objectives. No,

2238
02:15:20,970 --> 02:15:21,840
she's blaming him.

2239
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:25,410
We will continue the war until
we achieve all its goals, and

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02:15:25,410 --> 02:15:28,530
it's impossible to achieve those
goals without the ground

2241
02:15:28,530 --> 02:15:32,070
operation. The ground operation
was necessary to bring the

2242
02:15:32,070 --> 02:15:35,610
results until now, and it is
necessary to bring the results

2243
02:15:35,610 --> 02:15:35,940
moving

2244
02:15:35,940 --> 02:15:36,510
forward.

2245
02:15:36,690 --> 02:15:39,660
with hopes of a renewed
ceasefire dissipating. Vice

2246
02:15:39,660 --> 02:15:42,690
President Kamala Harris spoke
with reporters in Dubai group

2247
02:15:42,690 --> 02:15:45,300
laying out the Biden
administration's vision for

2248
02:15:45,300 --> 02:15:45,840
peace.

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02:15:46,290 --> 02:15:49,230
five principles guide our
approach for post conflict,

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02:15:49,230 --> 02:15:56,910
God's Gaza. No forcible
displacement, no reoccupation no

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02:15:56,910 --> 02:16:03,270
siege or blockade, no reduction
in territory, and no use of Gaza

2252
02:16:03,270 --> 02:16:08,520
as a platform for terrorism. We
want to see a unified Gaza and

2253
02:16:08,520 --> 02:16:13,350
West Bank under the Palestinian
Authority, and Palestinian

2254
02:16:13,350 --> 02:16:18,060
voices and aspirations must be
at the center of this work.

2255
02:16:18,210 --> 02:16:22,290
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow, waffling
much Wofully.

2256
02:16:22,800 --> 02:16:25,440
John C Dvorak: She has
absolutely no emotion

2257
02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:29,130
whatsoever. When she discusses
anything she just reads like a

2258
02:16:29,130 --> 02:16:31,860
Adam Curry: robot. Yeah, sounds
like it sounds about right.

2259
02:16:32,700 --> 02:16:37,500
She's an idiot. Unlike unlike
the emotion and the sportscaster

2260
02:16:37,500 --> 02:16:39,600
ish vibe of this CNN report,

2261
02:16:39,630 --> 02:16:41,610
Unknown: both Israel and Hamas
had indicated they were ready to

2262
02:16:41,610 --> 02:16:44,280
restart fighting if the
negotiations fell apart and if

2263
02:16:44,280 --> 02:16:46,860
the truce expired, and that's
exactly what happened right

2264
02:16:46,860 --> 02:16:48,840
around seven o'clock this
morning. We have seen the

2265
02:16:48,840 --> 02:16:52,470
skyline of Gaza. We have heard
the strikes the IDF is carrying

2266
02:16:52,470 --> 02:16:57,840
out in Gaza. So this war is very
much back on as both Hamas had

2267
02:16:57,840 --> 02:17:01,050
promised Israel carrying out
strikes and southern Gaza

2268
02:17:01,050 --> 02:17:03,600
according to authorities there
that is where they said they

2269
02:17:03,600 --> 02:17:07,020
would focus the second phase of
their operation. Meanwhile,

2270
02:17:07,020 --> 02:17:10,080
Israel has dropped leaflets in
parts of southern Gaza.

2271
02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:13,110
Interestingly, those leaflets
have a QR code that brings you

2272
02:17:13,110 --> 02:17:17,070
to a map with Gaza broken up
into very tiny partial teams as

2273
02:17:17,070 --> 02:17:20,790
if Israel tried to evacuate
these parcels of civilians along

2274
02:17:20,790 --> 02:17:24,210
established evacuation routes.
In an attempt to avoid civilian

2275
02:17:24,210 --> 02:17:27,630
casualties as the fighting
resumes at peace worth noting

2276
02:17:27,630 --> 02:17:30,480
the Secretary of State Antony
Blinken was just here. He said

2277
02:17:30,480 --> 02:17:33,720
Israel had to have a concrete
plan to protect civilians before

2278
02:17:33,720 --> 02:17:37,410
they launch the second phase of
their operation. Well, that is

2279
02:17:37,410 --> 02:17:39,780
now here. He also said Israel
needed a plan for more

2280
02:17:39,780 --> 02:17:43,350
humanitarian assistance, and yet
aid trucks outside of Gaza that

2281
02:17:43,350 --> 02:17:45,960
have already been inspected by
Israel. According to an

2282
02:17:45,960 --> 02:17:48,690
eyewitness on the ground there
have not gotten in since this

2283
02:17:48,690 --> 02:17:51,420
morning. So Phil, it is very
much a question of whether that

2284
02:17:51,420 --> 02:17:54,240
humanitarian aid has now been
cut off with the fighting

2285
02:17:54,270 --> 02:17:54,810
resumed.

2286
02:17:55,229 --> 02:17:57,509
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we know
that's not true because to

2287
02:17:57,509 --> 02:17:59,309
yesterday's report showed that
came through

2288
02:18:00,029 --> 02:18:02,219
Adam Curry: Poppy Harlow broke
it down for us.

2289
02:18:03,510 --> 02:18:07,020
Unknown: This hospital simply
cannot take more children with

2290
02:18:07,020 --> 02:18:09,780
the wounds of war. There are
children everywhere these

2291
02:18:09,780 --> 02:18:13,530
children are sleeping there was
a farm literally 50 meters from

2292
02:18:13,530 --> 02:18:16,140
here. This is a war on children

2293
02:18:16,949 --> 02:18:20,309
and war on children's stock
warrants from a UNICEF spokesman

2294
02:18:20,309 --> 02:18:24,059
as the truce between Israel and
Hamas has ended. He was speaking

2295
02:18:24,059 --> 02:18:27,059
from one of the last remaining
hospitals that is operating in

2296
02:18:27,059 --> 02:18:30,509
Gaza the Hamas controlled
Palestinian health ministry says

2297
02:18:30,539 --> 02:18:34,889
6000 children have been killed
in Gaza since the October 7

2298
02:18:34,949 --> 02:18:36,179
terror attack that's

2299
02:18:36,180 --> 02:18:39,240
Adam Curry: all you need to know
to war on children. That's it.

2300
02:18:39,810 --> 02:18:43,020
That's when it's a war on
children. And with that, I'd

2301
02:18:43,020 --> 02:18:44,940
like to thank you for your
courage in the morning to you

2302
02:18:44,940 --> 02:18:47,820
the man who put the sea and the
war on children ladies and

2303
02:18:47,820 --> 02:18:49,740
gentlemen say hello to my friend
on the other end the one and

2304
02:18:49,740 --> 02:18:50,970
only Mr. John

2305
02:18:55,230 --> 02:18:57,300
John C Dvorak: Well, in the
morning to you Mr. Curry in the

2306
02:18:57,300 --> 02:18:59,550
morning it was chips to see
boots on the ground feet in the

2307
02:18:59,550 --> 02:19:02,130
air subs in the water and all
the games and all the nights

2308
02:19:09,990 --> 02:19:14,820
Adam Curry: we got 2073 trolls
in the troll room

2309
02:19:15,449 --> 02:19:16,349
Unknown: 400 low.

2310
02:19:18,389 --> 02:19:20,339
Adam Curry: They are eventually
just going to have to take this

2311
02:19:20,339 --> 02:19:25,229
as the as the new normal. No,
no, no. Okay. All right. That

2312
02:19:25,229 --> 02:19:29,549
mean, I would say by Christmas
we'll be back to doing the

2313
02:19:29,549 --> 02:19:33,059
executive producers in after the
first hour because it'd be very

2314
02:19:33,059 --> 02:19:36,569
short. I know. I know. Look,
I've been around this gig. I

2315
02:19:36,569 --> 02:19:41,129
know. Hey, I've been around gig
man. But for now, we're still

2316
02:19:41,129 --> 02:19:44,969
very happy to report we have
2073 Trolls hanging out with us

2317
02:19:44,969 --> 02:19:48,119
in the troll room which you can
join them when there's room for

2318
02:19:48,119 --> 02:19:52,979
400 Apparently go to troll
room.io and join in the fun you

2319
02:19:52,979 --> 02:19:56,759
can log in right there. Listen
to no agenda stream.com Listen

2320
02:19:56,759 --> 02:19:59,489
to it live as we come to you
live every Thursday and Sunday.

2321
02:19:59,639 --> 02:20:03,539
And of course first before our
show is the the fabulous Darren

2322
02:20:03,539 --> 02:20:06,029
O'Neill, who celebrated to Ozzy
Osborne.

2323
02:20:06,720 --> 02:20:09,540
John C Dvorak: Oh my god, he
played his songs. They're

2324
02:20:09,540 --> 02:20:10,530
terrible.

2325
02:20:10,590 --> 02:20:12,600
Adam Curry: They're not terrible
as you saw,

2326
02:20:12,900 --> 02:20:13,470
John C Dvorak: Lee.

2327
02:20:14,190 --> 02:20:17,610
Adam Curry: Yo, bah bah humbug
Come on man. What do you want

2328
02:20:17,610 --> 02:20:21,300
Lawrence Welk Darren plays some
Lauren's well for John on

2329
02:20:21,300 --> 02:20:21,930
Thursday.

2330
02:20:23,070 --> 02:20:25,080
John C Dvorak: That's right.
That's the way to go counter

2331
02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:27,000
argument is lower as well.

2332
02:20:27,030 --> 02:20:31,980
Adam Curry: Yeah, both Ozzy is
classic man, this is sucks. Oh,

2333
02:20:32,010 --> 02:20:37,230
wow. All right, John dvorak.org.
You can't, you can't mess with

2334
02:20:37,260 --> 02:20:40,410
us. That's just not that's
that's unAmerican

2335
02:20:40,410 --> 02:20:41,220
John C Dvorak: stinks.

2336
02:20:43,860 --> 02:20:47,700
Adam Curry: You can also be
alerted when we go live. When

2337
02:20:47,700 --> 02:20:50,040
any of the shows go live.
Actually, if you subscribe to

2338
02:20:50,040 --> 02:20:53,490
the podcast and a modern podcast
app, go to modern podcast

2339
02:20:53,490 --> 02:20:58,140
apps.com. I'm using podcast guru
right now. I like it a lot. It's

2340
02:20:58,140 --> 02:21:02,760
got a lot of cool features in
there. Or you can just join us

2341
02:21:02,760 --> 02:21:06,480
at no agenda social.com where I
have not posted a single post

2342
02:21:06,750 --> 02:21:10,350
since the last show and I will
continue my boycott because it's

2343
02:21:10,350 --> 02:21:10,920
horrible.

2344
02:21:11,910 --> 02:21:15,270
John C Dvorak: Gary all over you
about your Musk hater.

2345
02:21:16,170 --> 02:21:18,030
Adam Curry: You even told the
guy that he should be kicked

2346
02:21:18,030 --> 02:21:19,110
off. I

2347
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:22,020
John C Dvorak: did i Well, you
are at least paying attention. I

2348
02:21:22,020 --> 02:21:25,740
read a course knock it off your
gig. You're you're making a fool

2349
02:21:25,740 --> 02:21:29,100
of yourself or quit quit the
platform. Yeah. And

2350
02:21:29,100 --> 02:21:31,380
Adam Curry: did you see his
reply? No.

2351
02:21:31,980 --> 02:21:33,780
Unknown: They told me I'm sorry.
I didn't

2352
02:21:33,780 --> 02:21:36,330
Adam Curry: know that you
couldn't deconstruct the media

2353
02:21:36,330 --> 02:21:39,300
deconstructors or have an
opinion or make

2354
02:21:40,170 --> 02:21:42,150
John C Dvorak: this guy get rid
of and take him off. I'm

2355
02:21:42,150 --> 02:21:45,810
Adam Curry: not doing anything
of the kind. I'm okay. I'm

2356
02:21:45,810 --> 02:21:46,260
watching

2357
02:21:46,260 --> 02:21:49,260
John C Dvorak: he thinks he
thinks you're a big aihole Chris

2358
02:21:49,260 --> 02:21:51,720
he thinks I am now two because I
defended you.

2359
02:21:51,810 --> 02:21:54,300
Adam Curry: Thank you. I
appreciate that. No, I'm just

2360
02:21:54,360 --> 02:21:57,780
this is now a social experiment.
I'm just watching it devolve

2361
02:21:57,780 --> 02:22:02,760
into into mush it says who
chaos? Yes, people I used to try

2362
02:22:02,760 --> 02:22:05,940
and you know, manage it a little
bit tell people you know try and

2363
02:22:05,940 --> 02:22:09,360
calm stuff down. I'm not I'm
left to their own devices. Even

2364
02:22:09,360 --> 02:22:14,460
people who believe they're on
the same team of love goes just

2365
02:22:14,490 --> 02:22:18,180
there. Everyone is traumatized
and we're and everyone's yelling

2366
02:22:18,180 --> 02:22:18,390
and

2367
02:22:18,660 --> 02:22:22,260
John C Dvorak: one mining of
John Conway's The Game of Life.

2368
02:22:23,070 --> 02:22:25,950
A very early computer program
that came out in the probably

2369
02:22:25,950 --> 02:22:30,480
the late 70s. That was this
little it started these little

2370
02:22:30,510 --> 02:22:33,300
the game. It was a great it was
just regular old fashioned

2371
02:22:33,300 --> 02:22:37,200
screens before graphics came
along. And then these little

2372
02:22:37,230 --> 02:22:39,480
communities would crop up and
they would show you how they

2373
02:22:39,480 --> 02:22:41,580
grew and shrunk and grew and
shrunk and they never

2374
02:22:41,580 --> 02:22:46,950
stabilized. And they all went
extinct. And I'm reminded of

2375
02:22:46,950 --> 02:22:49,620
that when I see what's going on
there. Well, that's what it's

2376
02:22:49,620 --> 02:22:53,370
always going to be it reminds me
of the no agenda forums that was

2377
02:22:54,060 --> 02:22:58,980
lively and a great just went
extinct because it was they went

2378
02:22:58,980 --> 02:22:59,640
nuts. Now

2379
02:22:59,670 --> 02:23:01,830
Adam Curry: what happened with
no agenda forums, as they kept

2380
02:23:01,830 --> 02:23:05,550
saying, You need to post over
here, you need to participate.

2381
02:23:06,360 --> 02:23:08,730
And I was like, I got no time
for that. Well, you don't love

2382
02:23:08,730 --> 02:23:10,170
us. And I said Well there

2383
02:23:10,170 --> 02:23:12,420
John C Dvorak: was that what the
real killer for them was they

2384
02:23:12,420 --> 02:23:16,230
started their own podcast. The
rounds counter program was

2385
02:23:16,230 --> 02:23:18,660
Adam Curry: the rounds and it
was called the roundtable wasn't

2386
02:23:18,660 --> 02:23:19,770
it? I think

2387
02:23:19,770 --> 02:23:21,930
John C Dvorak: something like
that. Yeah. Yeah. And so they

2388
02:23:21,930 --> 02:23:24,990
were just as if this podcast
that nobody paid attention to

2389
02:23:24,990 --> 02:23:26,730
because just these No,

2390
02:23:26,760 --> 02:23:29,700
Adam Curry: that's not the they
tried to do a podcast about our

2391
02:23:29,700 --> 02:23:33,390
podcast every day or twice a
week and it turns out Oh, it's

2392
02:23:33,390 --> 02:23:34,710
really hard. Well,

2393
02:23:34,710 --> 02:23:37,230
John C Dvorak: actually that
that's more than another one yo

2394
02:23:37,230 --> 02:23:42,720
agenda was more along those
comic strip blogger. Yeah, yeah.

2395
02:23:42,720 --> 02:23:45,750
And his buddy had there's two
guys and they was yelling rouse

2396
02:23:45,750 --> 02:23:49,380
about our show. Yeah, and then
when the show that's when the

2397
02:23:49,380 --> 02:23:53,370
show first started and then when
it got like two hours long and

2398
02:23:53,370 --> 02:23:55,500
then it got harder. Yeah, they

2399
02:23:56,820 --> 02:23:59,070
Unknown: couldn't they couldn't
bailed out.

2400
02:24:00,420 --> 02:24:04,290
Adam Curry: We got which we
smothered them with love. No, no

2401
02:24:04,290 --> 02:24:08,520
What you should do this and I'm
a proponent of the troll room. I

2402
02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:13,290
think it's good for people to go
to troll room.io During the

2403
02:24:13,290 --> 02:24:17,880
show, go in there and go I hate
you. You suck because it's just

2404
02:24:17,910 --> 02:24:21,570
disposed off. And it goes away
and then yeah, I've been nothing

2405
02:24:21,570 --> 02:24:23,940
really happens. It's just this
good. You get it out of your

2406
02:24:23,940 --> 02:24:27,540
system. I think it's a really
that's that is the place to go.

2407
02:24:27,840 --> 02:24:31,170
Then and you also can't post
memes that's another good thing

2408
02:24:31,170 --> 02:24:34,350
about it. You know, it's just
text. So you have to be crafty

2409
02:24:34,350 --> 02:24:38,400
with words you know, you have to
have some talent talent. Not

2410
02:24:38,400 --> 02:24:38,610
really.

2411
02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:41,160
John C Dvorak: Anyway use NET.

2412
02:24:43,200 --> 02:24:46,920
Adam Curry: Now, what was the
what was the email system that

2413
02:24:46,920 --> 02:24:50,940
you went to the bulletin boards?
Remember, you would write an

2414
02:24:50,940 --> 02:24:55,020
email and then it would it would
upload and it would would that

2415
02:24:55,020 --> 02:24:58,800
was MCI Mail was no no, no, no,
no, no, no. It was through the

2416
02:24:58,800 --> 02:24:59,730
bulletin boards. It

2417
02:24:59,730 --> 02:25:02,010
John C Dvorak: was Isn't
CompuServe email oh

2418
02:25:02,010 --> 02:25:05,970
Adam Curry: no no before that it
wasn't the source no before that

2419
02:25:06,000 --> 02:25:10,350
it was It wasn't Fido next was
they don't add Yes, that's it.

2420
02:25:10,380 --> 02:25:14,670
Nailed it fight on it. Yes. And
you'd have to wait a day and

2421
02:25:14,670 --> 02:25:18,540
have to wait wait for the phone
lines to open up with a guy

2422
02:25:18,540 --> 02:25:21,060
would have a bulletin board with
five phone lines. You have a

2423
02:25:21,060 --> 02:25:22,620
demon Island to have a

2424
02:25:22,620 --> 02:25:24,780
John C Dvorak: bulletin board
back in the day you had to have

2425
02:25:25,020 --> 02:25:28,080
Multics number of phone lines
coming in. So you'd have to be

2426
02:25:28,080 --> 02:25:31,950
with hand 20 phone lines. This
is a good thing for the phone

2427
02:25:31,950 --> 02:25:32,700
companies

2428
02:25:32,730 --> 02:25:35,220
Adam Curry: what was all local
calls? You had to find a

2429
02:25:35,220 --> 02:25:38,850
bulletin board with a local
local numbers so you could be

2430
02:25:38,910 --> 02:25:41,040
because you know long distance
no one could afford it.

2431
02:25:41,370 --> 02:25:44,760
Especially not at 300 baud or
whatever we had. It was

2432
02:25:44,760 --> 02:25:47,670
John C Dvorak: 300 baud.
Remember those quickly went to

2433
02:25:47,670 --> 02:25:49,560
1200. So there you go. And then

2434
02:25:49,560 --> 02:25:51,870
Adam Curry: we got the Hayes
compression protocol.

2435
02:25:53,430 --> 02:25:55,830
John C Dvorak: Yeah, maybe and
his Hayes. Remember that?

2436
02:25:56,460 --> 02:25:57,180
Adam Curry: Good time. Yeah,

2437
02:25:57,210 --> 02:25:59,220
John C Dvorak: I do. Remember
all that stuff. Now I had all

2438
02:25:59,220 --> 02:26:00,240
that gear. Now

2439
02:26:00,240 --> 02:26:05,280
Adam Curry: I have five gigabits
per second fiber in my lifetime,

2440
02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:09,180
okay, meaning just because you
have two networks that don't

2441
02:26:09,180 --> 02:26:13,290
even get one in total. Apply. I
have two networks that both get

2442
02:26:13,500 --> 02:26:16,740
or not get you're getting one to
the local head end to the ping

2443
02:26:16,740 --> 02:26:19,650
you're not getting any any was
that's true with everything

2444
02:26:19,650 --> 02:26:24,420
right? So once you don't give me
this getting food, it's not that

2445
02:26:24,450 --> 02:26:28,200
it's not about the speed. It's
about the amount of things I can

2446
02:26:28,200 --> 02:26:32,850
have simultaneously. I can have
my tours and I can have my

2447
02:26:32,910 --> 02:26:40,680
Umbral at my start nine and we
can bring Yes, yeah, I see. Why

2448
02:26:40,680 --> 02:26:41,580
is that funny to

2449
02:26:41,580 --> 02:26:42,990
John C Dvorak: you? is funny.

2450
02:26:44,520 --> 02:26:48,630
Adam Curry: All right. We are a
value for value show. We

2451
02:26:48,630 --> 02:26:52,860
pioneered the concept. You know,
even you know even the noster

2452
02:26:52,860 --> 02:26:56,880
guys are now calling themselves
value for value. Yeah,

2453
02:26:56,880 --> 02:26:59,490
eventually will be forgotten.
Well, I think it's already

2454
02:26:59,490 --> 02:27:05,130
happened. I have a feeling well
wait way past that point. Yeah,

2455
02:27:05,130 --> 02:27:09,180
man, Jack Dorsey invented value
for value. That's how that went

2456
02:27:09,180 --> 02:27:12,810
bad. I started that company a
long time. Thanks, Jack at Jack.

2457
02:27:14,670 --> 02:27:19,050
Yeah, so we decided long ago
that the only way to be able to

2458
02:27:19,050 --> 02:27:22,920
speak freely is to not have
advertising or any corporate

2459
02:27:22,950 --> 02:27:27,060
interests or any anything that
that is other than than just us

2460
02:27:27,060 --> 02:27:30,930
and the audience which we never
called listeners. We decided to

2461
02:27:30,930 --> 02:27:33,690
call you producers because
that's what you do. You send us

2462
02:27:33,690 --> 02:27:36,510
clips you send us articles boots
on the ground your insights,

2463
02:27:36,510 --> 02:27:38,820
your knowledge. Sometimes even
your

2464
02:27:39,270 --> 02:27:42,120
John C Dvorak: by that we had
talking about that. We had like

2465
02:27:42,120 --> 02:27:45,150
I didn't I may or may not read
these today probably in the show

2466
02:27:45,150 --> 02:27:49,920
it coming up. We have at least
three people that I got email

2467
02:27:49,920 --> 02:27:53,550
from who work in the facilities
at these various water

2468
02:27:54,000 --> 02:27:58,320
facilities. Yes, I know all the
insight about designers is bold

2469
02:27:58,320 --> 02:28:02,370
crap. And they using you know
passwords, the default password,

2470
02:28:02,370 --> 02:28:05,520
the full passwords, and anyone
can hack in and there's no

2471
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:09,810
reason is on the net. We have
people that do. That's why when

2472
02:28:09,810 --> 02:28:13,290
you ask for somebody who knew
about this insurance scam, it'll

2473
02:28:13,290 --> 02:28:16,830
show it will get it it'll show
up because we it's astonishing.

2474
02:28:16,860 --> 02:28:21,180
I have to say at some point is
astonishing. The people that we

2475
02:28:21,180 --> 02:28:23,850
have that work in every single
industry, I was talking to

2476
02:28:23,850 --> 02:28:26,760
somebody about the show recently
and they asked me well what are

2477
02:28:26,760 --> 02:28:29,430
we talking about? What's your
demo? He asked me

2478
02:28:29,460 --> 02:28:32,670
Adam Curry: what's our demo? Did
you Did Why did you kick him in

2479
02:28:32,670 --> 02:28:35,160
the shins and poke him right in
the balls?

2480
02:28:36,210 --> 02:28:40,260
John C Dvorak: So I said the
great thing about our show is we

2481
02:28:40,260 --> 02:28:45,780
have no demo yes little kids
stole men old women and

2482
02:28:45,780 --> 02:28:50,220
everything in between an
engineers and and everything

2483
02:28:50,220 --> 02:28:55,050
pilots I mean his preachers
everybody is astonishing the

2484
02:28:55,050 --> 02:28:55,590
demo

2485
02:28:56,070 --> 02:29:00,090
Adam Curry: Yeah. Every race
creed religion background

2486
02:29:00,630 --> 02:29:05,850
everything that yes, we have we
have a world demo telling

2487
02:29:06,420 --> 02:29:09,480
John C Dvorak: our world that's
probably easier on him than

2488
02:29:09,480 --> 02:29:10,800
kicking him in the balls

2489
02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:13,530
Adam Curry: well it's too late
now than me the guy never talked

2490
02:29:13,530 --> 02:29:17,850
to you ago and pissed off about
it. So the way that works is if

2491
02:29:17,850 --> 02:29:20,730
you get any value out of the
show and if you don't you got to

2492
02:29:20,730 --> 02:29:23,850
question your life because why
well you could be hate listening

2493
02:29:24,390 --> 02:29:25,710
could be hate listening. Yeah,

2494
02:29:25,710 --> 02:29:28,590
John C Dvorak: so are we do have
hate listeners. Oh, you know,

2495
02:29:28,920 --> 02:29:31,980
but a lot but we do have those
shows that I hate to listen to

2496
02:29:32,010 --> 02:29:35,820
by listen to regularly. Yeah,
you're a hate list or you got a

2497
02:29:35,820 --> 02:29:37,020
find shows you ate

2498
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:39,750
Adam Curry: I know there's only
one show I hate. Then I listened

2499
02:29:39,750 --> 02:29:45,660
to by the way she's on TV now
she's on. She's on a Sunday CNN

2500
02:29:45,660 --> 02:29:50,970
panel show. I can't wait for the
clips. Oh brother is right. Led

2501
02:29:50,970 --> 02:29:54,600
by that x Fox guy. What's it
what's his face

2502
02:29:54,900 --> 02:29:57,450
John C Dvorak: with X for lunch?
Sanchez?

2503
02:29:57,450 --> 02:30:00,240
Adam Curry: No, no, the guy who
left Fox the fake If you're

2504
02:30:00,240 --> 02:30:01,650
famous dad what's his name?

2505
02:30:02,310 --> 02:30:03,300
John C Dvorak: Tucker Carlson.

2506
02:30:04,529 --> 02:30:09,029
Adam Curry: Other famous? No the
news guy. We went I'm leaving

2507
02:30:09,029 --> 02:30:13,739
this fox you Republicans? I'm a
liberal. Oh Shepard Smith. No,

2508
02:30:13,739 --> 02:30:15,449
no, no, no, no, no.

2509
02:30:16,440 --> 02:30:19,680
John C Dvorak: burn as many
names as I can. Chris Wallace.

2510
02:30:19,710 --> 02:30:22,530
Oh, Chris Wallace. That guy.
Yeah.

2511
02:30:22,830 --> 02:30:26,400
Adam Curry: He moderated and
carried his way is just

2512
02:30:26,400 --> 02:30:28,710
John C Dvorak: a well, it's dud
meets Duck.

2513
02:30:29,310 --> 02:30:33,630
Adam Curry: Duck meets dud. Oh,
gotta write that one down. Dud

2514
02:30:33,660 --> 02:30:39,000
meets duck anyway back to value
for value. So here's an example

2515
02:30:39,030 --> 02:30:42,360
of though it's a sad example
because Sir Paul couture created

2516
02:30:42,360 --> 02:30:45,780
the no agenda art generator for
us no agenda, art generator.com.

2517
02:30:46,200 --> 02:30:49,110
And he's maintained that thing
for well over a decade, we had

2518
02:30:49,110 --> 02:30:52,830
one before that, but it's it
really that is true value

2519
02:30:52,830 --> 02:30:53,280
because he

2520
02:30:53,280 --> 02:30:55,470
John C Dvorak: changed the
structure of it led midway

2521
02:30:55,710 --> 02:30:59,640
through me way. And you know,
there's overspend just smooth as

2522
02:30:59,640 --> 02:31:02,460
silk, over 24 25,000,

2523
02:31:02,790 --> 02:31:06,660
Adam Curry: always smoother. So
24 25,000 pieces of artwork,

2524
02:31:06,660 --> 02:31:11,310
this is where the artists
compete. This thing went, went

2525
02:31:11,310 --> 02:31:15,270
belly up, hardware failure, and
he has just been pulling his

2526
02:31:15,270 --> 02:31:18,480
hair out trying to get it back
online. So he has a temporary

2527
02:31:18,480 --> 02:31:22,080
page up, we got all kinds of
solutions. But the point is, we

2528
02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:25,440
never would have started that we
never, we would never been able

2529
02:31:25,440 --> 02:31:29,310
to afford to pay someone to do
that. You know, we would look at

2530
02:31:29,310 --> 02:31:33,900
the monthly bill and go and I
can hear you go and why are you

2531
02:31:33,900 --> 02:31:37,860
paying for this. And it goes for
all kinds of things. We have

2532
02:31:37,860 --> 02:31:40,890
never had to do any of that. All
we have to do is deconstruct

2533
02:31:40,890 --> 02:31:45,510
media and assemble a show twice
a week and we're so grateful

2534
02:31:45,510 --> 02:31:48,330
everyone that's value for value.
Yeah,

2535
02:31:48,360 --> 02:31:51,030
John C Dvorak: volunteerism is a
big part of it. That's not

2536
02:31:51,030 --> 02:31:53,790
something you can just do if
you're a commercial entity, no

2537
02:31:53,790 --> 02:31:58,920
selling ads, try invites. I
mean, our show invites

2538
02:31:58,920 --> 02:32:02,070
volunteerism we get we get
reports that are voluntarily

2539
02:32:02,070 --> 02:32:05,220
submitted, we get the artists
voluntarily done your we have

2540
02:32:05,220 --> 02:32:09,480
somebody doing the Art Generator
did it voluntarily. And so

2541
02:32:09,540 --> 02:32:13,680
that's what it's a big deal when
you can get a system together

2542
02:32:13,680 --> 02:32:18,300
that has a lot of volunteerism,
because you end up getting a

2543
02:32:18,300 --> 02:32:22,920
astonishing product until it
craps out. But obviously,

2544
02:32:24,120 --> 02:32:26,310
Adam Curry: it has its ups and
downs. This

2545
02:32:26,520 --> 02:32:28,770
John C Dvorak: downside? Yeah,
there's a downside. It's kind of

2546
02:32:28,980 --> 02:32:30,120
it's kind of quaint. No, it's

2547
02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:32,760
Adam Curry: like I like it
because we can't yell at

2548
02:32:32,760 --> 02:32:33,960
anybody. You know, if

2549
02:32:34,320 --> 02:32:37,380
John C Dvorak: you can't do what
you're gonna do. Working for

2550
02:32:37,380 --> 02:32:38,700
free. Yeah. Break

2551
02:32:38,730 --> 02:32:41,430
Adam Curry: if we dislike if
we've been paying for this, we

2552
02:32:41,430 --> 02:32:43,770
will like get that thing back
up. I can't believe it knows

2553
02:32:43,770 --> 02:32:47,970
now. Like, I'm not spun up over
it. I'm not mad or fired. I'm

2554
02:32:47,970 --> 02:32:51,960
not. I'm not mad, like, Oh, I
feel bad. I feel bad for Paul.

2555
02:32:51,960 --> 02:32:53,640
But he's trying to fix that. And
it's a pain.

2556
02:32:54,480 --> 02:32:57,600
John C Dvorak: I'm sure. It's,
it's a miserable situation,

2557
02:32:58,050 --> 02:32:59,370
taking him this long, no

2558
02:32:59,370 --> 02:33:02,580
Adam Curry: doubt. So with that,
that's the time and talent

2559
02:33:02,580 --> 02:33:05,790
portion. We also have the
treasure the three T's of value

2560
02:33:05,790 --> 02:33:09,570
for value, time, talent,
treasure, and we love to thank

2561
02:33:09,570 --> 02:33:12,420
our executive and Associate
Executive Producers right at the

2562
02:33:12,420 --> 02:33:15,780
top of our list. We always read
out the amounts we give the

2563
02:33:15,780 --> 02:33:19,170
notes that people have sent him.
And we are very inept.

2564
02:33:19,170 --> 02:33:21,150
John C Dvorak: We we call we got
to thank the artists for the

2565
02:33:21,150 --> 02:33:21,930
last artwork.

2566
02:33:21,960 --> 02:33:24,630
Adam Curry: Well, I don't know
who it was because I remember

2567
02:33:24,690 --> 02:33:27,300
you sent it to me. He said, I
don't know who did it.

2568
02:33:28,680 --> 02:33:30,660
John C Dvorak: But the artists
who did it, just send us a

2569
02:33:30,660 --> 02:33:33,630
notice. Hey, so we couldn't be
some credit here. So I

2570
02:33:33,630 --> 02:33:36,270
Adam Curry: can put your name
into the credits, which are just

2571
02:33:36,270 --> 02:33:38,820
empty because I didn't know who
had done that because it was

2572
02:33:38,820 --> 02:33:41,430
something you just collected. I

2573
02:33:41,430 --> 02:33:44,130
John C Dvorak: collected what I
Yeah, normally before I do a

2574
02:33:44,130 --> 02:33:47,010
newsletter, I go onto the Art
Generator and I find two or

2575
02:33:47,010 --> 02:33:50,550
three pieces of art that I might
want to use for the newsletter

2576
02:33:50,550 --> 02:33:53,310
and then I'll place it into the
newsletter and see if it works.

2577
02:33:53,610 --> 02:33:59,490
And that piece was rejected. And
or I'd used it I'm not I don't

2578
02:33:59,490 --> 02:34:02,640
remember. But whatever the case
is that so I always have a bunch

2579
02:34:02,640 --> 02:34:06,600
of pieces sitting in my files
that I

2580
02:34:06,630 --> 02:34:09,060
Adam Curry: just looked at your
email. You mean you email

2581
02:34:09,060 --> 02:34:09,660
yourself?

2582
02:34:09,690 --> 02:34:12,330
John C Dvorak: No, it's no I
don't know. I do it directly. I

2583
02:34:12,330 --> 02:34:14,190
do just save save images.

2584
02:34:14,220 --> 02:34:16,980
Adam Curry: Oh, right. Right
click Save image as nice. Yeah,

2585
02:34:16,980 --> 02:34:17,070
I

2586
02:34:17,070 --> 02:34:18,930
John C Dvorak: don't do any
emails like stuff

2587
02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:24,360
Adam Curry: slick. All right. So
yes, we'd like to thank our

2588
02:34:24,360 --> 02:34:27,330
Executive Associate Executive
producers and we start off with

2589
02:34:27,720 --> 02:34:31,140
a guy who has always been there
for us, usually about once a

2590
02:34:31,140 --> 02:34:36,360
month sir animus of Dogpatch and
Lois LeBeau via and T sends now

2591
02:34:36,360 --> 02:34:39,660
this is not an atypical number
for him because he likes to

2592
02:34:39,660 --> 02:34:46,110
dollar bills. He sent us a row
of ducks 2222 which I'm going to

2593
02:34:46,110 --> 02:34:50,130
presume was in cash and included
$2 bills at least one one cue

2594
02:34:50,130 --> 02:34:55,410
dollar bill. Yes. And he says
thank you to any always has a

2595
02:34:55,410 --> 02:34:59,760
typewritten note we have very
little idea about about this

2596
02:34:59,760 --> 02:35:02,100
pretty Mr. Schreiner must have
Dogpatch in Los Lobos,

2597
02:35:02,130 --> 02:35:04,260
John C Dvorak: other than
Bikkies anonymous, he keeps

2598
02:35:04,260 --> 02:35:05,670
himself Anonymous is

2599
02:35:05,670 --> 02:35:09,420
Adam Curry: anonymous and he is
a patron saint for us. Thank you

2600
02:35:09,420 --> 02:35:12,090
to all the producers, and
congratulations to the many that

2601
02:35:12,090 --> 02:35:17,340
now use the pronoun doctor.
That's a pronoun we stand

2602
02:35:17,340 --> 02:35:20,670
behind. And thank you to John
and Adam, for being effective

2603
02:35:20,700 --> 02:35:23,910
altruists, working on holidays,
finding the best use of your

2604
02:35:23,910 --> 02:35:27,600
remaining lives is to
deconstruct news and entertain.

2605
02:35:27,720 --> 02:35:32,220
Wait a minute, is he predicting
our doom here? Working on

2606
02:35:32,220 --> 02:35:35,100
holidays and finding the best
use of your remaining lives.

2607
02:35:35,100 --> 02:35:38,430
That's you and I, John, is to
deconstruct news and entertain

2608
02:35:38,430 --> 02:35:42,450
the dedicated producers. It is
good to see Americans fight the

2609
02:35:42,450 --> 02:35:46,230
effort to impose theological
beliefs into law by so called

2610
02:35:46,230 --> 02:35:49,650
conservatives, having a little
experience with countries

2611
02:35:49,650 --> 02:35:52,530
committed to conservative
theological law of laws of my

2612
02:35:52,530 --> 02:35:56,220
faith, implementing some of
these laws can cause even those

2613
02:35:56,220 --> 02:35:59,790
with strong morals to question
their interpretation. No, that's

2614
02:35:59,790 --> 02:36:03,390
deep. It's deeper than normal. I
think for Serrano, he's

2615
02:36:03,630 --> 02:36:05,880
John C Dvorak: must have been
given a parking ticket or

2616
02:36:05,880 --> 02:36:10,260
something I'm guessing in Saudi
Arabia, which comes with a

2617
02:36:10,260 --> 02:36:10,830
beating.

2618
02:36:12,390 --> 02:36:15,300
Adam Curry: John has often
referenced shanty towns as an

2619
02:36:15,300 --> 02:36:19,680
alternative to 10 cities. And I
would say you've promoted the

2620
02:36:19,680 --> 02:36:23,850
idea. Yes, I have the political
term at the time was Hoover

2621
02:36:23,850 --> 02:36:25,710
villes. Yes, under President so

2622
02:36:25,710 --> 02:36:28,530
John C Dvorak: that was in the
30s. But there's been a we've

2623
02:36:28,590 --> 02:36:31,920
hit, but worldwide is what I'm
talking. I'm talking about the

2624
02:36:31,920 --> 02:36:34,920
shanty towns that are that are
everywhere, but the United

2625
02:36:34,920 --> 02:36:37,140
States, not the hood hills.
Well, and he

2626
02:36:37,140 --> 02:36:40,380
Adam Curry: continues, but go on
Kara, with elections in the

2627
02:36:40,380 --> 02:36:45,060
offing. Perhaps they can be
named Biden towns or Trump towns

2628
02:36:45,060 --> 02:36:48,000
could work well, but the
incumbent usually gets naming

2629
02:36:48,000 --> 02:36:52,380
rights. No jingles, no karma.
But thank you so much on Mr.

2630
02:36:52,380 --> 02:36:55,830
Dogpatch. And Lois LeBeau. Via
you always have the best mute

2631
02:36:55,860 --> 02:36:59,250
cut right through it. Even if it
if it's cutting through us. We'd

2632
02:36:59,250 --> 02:37:00,270
love you for it. Thank you.

2633
02:37:01,140 --> 02:37:04,140
John C Dvorak: Yeah, who reveals
we're because they had this

2634
02:37:04,170 --> 02:37:08,010
homeless situation back in the
30s. And it was like, resulted

2635
02:37:08,010 --> 02:37:12,300
in these little is nothing like
today, as far as I can tell it,

2636
02:37:12,630 --> 02:37:15,930
looked into it to what we have
going on today in certain

2637
02:37:15,930 --> 02:37:20,250
cities, New York would be one of
them. Chicago, San Francisco of

2638
02:37:20,250 --> 02:37:23,250
old, they're not there. I know
what happened to them. And

2639
02:37:23,310 --> 02:37:27,570
Berkeley had a big town of
homeless under what happened to

2640
02:37:27,570 --> 02:37:27,960
them.

2641
02:37:29,250 --> 02:37:31,890
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, same

2642
02:37:32,250 --> 02:37:36,450
John C Dvorak: acreage and them
do their own thing. plumas up,

2643
02:37:37,050 --> 02:37:42,630
and she is Bluma I think it's
caught Hi, Kai. Kai. Hi. Hi. Hi,

2644
02:37:42,660 --> 02:37:50,220
Hawaii, Kauai in Hawaii. I asked
the guy once do you pronounce in

2645
02:37:50,220 --> 02:37:54,870
Hawaii or Hawaii? And he says
you pronounce it Hawaii? How

2646
02:37:54,870 --> 02:37:57,450
about simple thing. I said well,
thanks. And he said You're

2647
02:37:57,450 --> 02:37:59,100
welcome, though.

2648
02:37:59,100 --> 02:38:02,250
Adam Curry: Oh boy. Did that
joke writer write that one for

2649
02:38:02,250 --> 02:38:02,520
you?

2650
02:38:04,320 --> 02:38:07,230
John C Dvorak: Was from my
vaudeville days. Yes, of course.

2651
02:38:07,590 --> 02:38:14,220
She came in with 111111 Nice
satchel Richards. She says param

2652
02:38:14,220 --> 02:38:17,850
Manyana gents Oopsie doopsie
Dame pluma protector the

2653
02:38:17,850 --> 02:38:20,670
feathered whales from here to
Hawaii with a correction and a

2654
02:38:20,670 --> 02:38:24,240
make good for show 1612 And a
few dollars for your troubles

2655
02:38:24,240 --> 02:38:28,470
I'll say she donated $1,000 And
she wanted to make good so she

2656
02:38:28,470 --> 02:38:33,330
donated No 11 Do it wow that's
what I call a producer producer

2657
02:38:33,930 --> 02:38:38,430
please note soul sister Kelly or
egos birthday is December 4 Not

2658
02:38:38,430 --> 02:38:45,450
January 4. Oh no. My mistakes or
credit her with those 5111 Bonus

2659
02:38:45,450 --> 02:38:48,900
Bucks and give her another
birthday biscuit.

2660
02:38:49,020 --> 02:38:51,960
Unknown: If time allows I have a
birthday biscuit for they always

2661
02:38:51,960 --> 02:38:53,850
give me a biscuit on my
birthday.

2662
02:38:54,750 --> 02:38:57,210
John C Dvorak: also received my
PhD was somewhat skipped over

2663
02:38:57,210 --> 02:38:59,940
during the massive pronunciation
ceremony and I can't

2664
02:38:59,940 --> 02:39:03,120
legitimately claim my dame hood.
It's I feel that sort of

2665
02:39:03,120 --> 02:39:10,080
touchdown on my shoulder and
upon my we amygdala PS Maori

2666
02:39:10,080 --> 02:39:13,470
boots on the ground coming soon.
Spoiler alert, no real solutions

2667
02:39:13,470 --> 02:39:19,620
for the survivors on the table.
Yet surprised mahalo nui loa for

2668
02:39:19,620 --> 02:39:23,460
your courage and the supportive
community you've co created

2669
02:39:23,790 --> 02:39:24,300
Bluma

2670
02:39:24,480 --> 02:39:27,660
Adam Curry: Oh, thanks. Yeah, we
got everything all set up for

2671
02:39:27,660 --> 02:39:32,610
you. Vert fuller is in Batavia,
New York, although with a name

2672
02:39:32,610 --> 02:39:35,280
like vert and a place like
batavi you think it would be

2673
02:39:35,280 --> 02:39:40,350
Deutschland? But no New York
$1,000 with a handwritten note

2674
02:39:40,380 --> 02:39:44,880
on Native American Rights Fund
paper, which I thought was

2675
02:39:44,880 --> 02:39:50,010
interesting. And says John, I
guess I don't exist. I've no

2676
02:39:50,010 --> 02:39:53,040
this is possibly late but I will
never get a chance again for a

2677
02:39:53,040 --> 02:39:58,830
doctor near my name. So here's
my check for $1,000 I will give

2678
02:39:58,830 --> 02:40:04,230
this before Cathy Hoko takes
everything from New Yorker and

2679
02:40:04,230 --> 02:40:09,180
Joby takes the rest I need karma
for my sister and will who will

2680
02:40:09,180 --> 02:40:15,390
be leaving soon I will miss her
apple pies it's like it's so

2681
02:40:15,390 --> 02:40:16,230
cool to retro

2682
02:40:16,230 --> 02:40:20,370
John C Dvorak: that just drove a
random name of pi physical

2683
02:40:20,370 --> 02:40:23,970
Adam Curry: Tourettes advice.
I'm sure I've given enough for

2684
02:40:23,970 --> 02:40:28,380
knighthood and would like to be
served dirt karma to all from

2685
02:40:28,380 --> 02:40:32,010
vert sir dirt now. So does he
Are you going to send him a

2686
02:40:32,010 --> 02:40:33,630
doctorate? Yeah,

2687
02:40:33,630 --> 02:40:38,490
John C Dvorak: when he says the
details of the address. He came

2688
02:40:38,490 --> 02:40:40,110
in he came in on time. Yeah.
Okay.

2689
02:40:40,140 --> 02:40:42,810
Adam Curry: Well, here's a Karma
as requested. You got you've

2690
02:40:42,810 --> 02:40:46,110
Unknown: got karma. I'm gonna
put apple pies

2691
02:40:46,110 --> 02:40:47,580
Adam Curry: for the roundtable
just in case I

2692
02:40:48,930 --> 02:40:50,340
Unknown: add that for a second.
Maybe

2693
02:40:50,340 --> 02:40:52,170
John C Dvorak: that's what he
meant. I'd like it though. apple

2694
02:40:52,170 --> 02:41:00,060
pies. Josh Brownlee in the
Korra. Iowa to be Decker. I

2695
02:41:00,060 --> 02:41:04,860
think the Cora may be I don't
know. Four Four. 4.66. Gets me

2696
02:41:04,860 --> 02:41:08,700
to do 1000 I guess I get a
knighthood plus PhD. No, you get

2697
02:41:08,700 --> 02:41:12,630
a knighthood. What I really want
however, is jobs karma from my

2698
02:41:12,630 --> 02:41:17,250
wife who just got laid off last
week. You can now call me sir

2699
02:41:17,250 --> 02:41:21,390
protector of the Driftless
areas. Grandma's hummus for the

2700
02:41:21,390 --> 02:41:22,620
roundtable. Please. You

2701
02:41:22,620 --> 02:41:26,400
Unknown: got jobs, jobs, jobs
and jobs.

2702
02:41:26,430 --> 02:41:30,450
John C Dvorak: Let's vote for
jobs. Karma.

2703
02:41:32,520 --> 02:41:36,870
Adam Curry: And then we have
Carl post from riegelsville

2704
02:41:36,870 --> 02:41:40,140
Pennsylvania. 336. Merry
Christmas. Happy birthday to my

2705
02:41:40,140 --> 02:41:43,200
smokin hot wife Donna post. What
are you drinking?

2706
02:41:44,880 --> 02:41:49,110
John C Dvorak: It's the same old
signature seltzer original. Do

2707
02:41:49,110 --> 02:41:51,510
Adam Curry: you think you'd do
something of a show and get

2708
02:41:51,510 --> 02:41:53,340
something new to drink? Yes,

2709
02:41:53,340 --> 02:41:55,590
John C Dvorak: I will. The next
time you hear a can opening is

2710
02:41:55,590 --> 02:41:57,690
going to be something wild. Oh,
I

2711
02:41:57,690 --> 02:42:00,300
Adam Curry: can't wait. Merry
Christmas. Happy birthday to my

2712
02:42:00,300 --> 02:42:03,450
smokin hot wife Donna post.
Here's an executive producer for

2713
02:42:03,450 --> 02:42:09,780
your suffix to keep up with your
Dr. Your doctor. And it says oh

2714
02:42:09,780 --> 02:42:13,230
no, I'm sorry. There's a little
I'll reread that. So this is for

2715
02:42:13,260 --> 02:42:15,990
Donna. Here's an executive
producer for yourself. It's to

2716
02:42:15,990 --> 02:42:21,270
keep up with the doctors and
CPAs at work. Yes. Well done.

2717
02:42:21,300 --> 02:42:22,110
Good idea.

2718
02:42:24,540 --> 02:42:30,120
John C Dvorak: Alright, Rick,
Rick Rick Parkins hearkens.

2719
02:42:30,690 --> 02:42:34,080
Parkins intervener. Noise shot.

2720
02:42:34,140 --> 02:42:36,150
Adam Curry: It's like new wiener
Ville. Really?

2721
02:42:36,300 --> 02:42:41,370
John C Dvorak: New Hot Dog. New
Hot Dog. Austria. Yes. Yeah.

2722
02:42:41,730 --> 02:42:45,660
Well, they have a good posture
has got great food. Yeah, I

2723
02:42:45,660 --> 02:42:49,050
started listening to you Gu
after Adam's appearance on Peter

2724
02:42:49,050 --> 02:42:54,750
McCormick's podcast. What
Bitcoin did I'm hooked. Yeah. So

2725
02:42:54,750 --> 02:42:56,580
what podcast was this? I never
heard of it's

2726
02:42:56,580 --> 02:42:58,890
Adam Curry: called what Bitcoin
did is very popular, very

2727
02:42:58,890 --> 02:43:03,090
popular. More popular podcast
well, you couldn't do some to

2728
02:43:03,090 --> 02:43:03,690
you know.

2729
02:43:06,450 --> 02:43:10,740
John C Dvorak: You're the pretty
boy. The donation is also in the

2730
02:43:10,740 --> 02:43:14,430
donation is also in celebration
by 61st trip around the sun,

2731
02:43:14,430 --> 02:43:17,910
which finishes on the second of
December, please add me to the

2732
02:43:17,910 --> 02:43:20,550
birthday list. You're on it.
Thanks for everything and keep

2733
02:43:20,550 --> 02:43:24,540
up the exceptional work. Jingles
busy like Boom shaka laka little

2734
02:43:24,540 --> 02:43:28,080
girl yay and some jobs karma
from my smokin hot girlfriend.

2735
02:43:28,140 --> 02:43:33,390
Eva greetings from Vayner
nauseous dot Austria, new

2736
02:43:33,390 --> 02:43:38,400
wieners town or Irish Vlerick
Perkins, bingo boom

2737
02:43:42,960 --> 02:43:48,120
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Jobs.

2738
02:43:52,020 --> 02:43:55,920
Adam Curry: Shawn Boyce, Buford,
Georgia 333 One of our favorite

2739
02:43:55,920 --> 02:43:58,980
numbers ITM with the addition of
our new human resource. I

2740
02:43:58,980 --> 02:44:02,040
haven't had as much time to
listen but please deduce me with

2741
02:44:02,040 --> 02:44:03,600
my 333 donation

2742
02:44:05,820 --> 02:44:06,990
Unknown: deed deuced

2743
02:44:08,250 --> 02:44:10,710
Adam Curry: and thank you for
all you guys do please share

2744
02:44:10,710 --> 02:44:15,480
some just share share some jobs,
jobs karma we are all self

2745
02:44:15,480 --> 02:44:19,350
employed. So it's namely so is
it named differently? No, it's

2746
02:44:19,380 --> 02:44:23,760
It's jobs Carmen for our online
shop. We've created the Atlanta

2747
02:44:23,760 --> 02:44:27,930
tennis monsters characters and
made really cool shirts by Mark

2748
02:44:27,930 --> 02:44:31,020
sunder Meyer, aka mark the
artist who needs to be called

2749
02:44:31,020 --> 02:44:35,460
out as a douche bag. did hit him
in the mouth last year special

2750
02:44:35,460 --> 02:44:40,320
no agenda code for 20% off marks
Atlanta tennis monsters T shirts

2751
02:44:40,350 --> 02:44:45,420
is no agenda 23 If anyone wants
to help a brother out Oh Ken

2752
02:44:45,420 --> 02:44:48,870
gianduia sales voice for Atlanta
tennis monsters.com

2753
02:44:50,820 --> 02:44:53,730
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can. I
had to put that up. Hold on.

2754
02:44:55,290 --> 02:45:02,910
Yeah. Okay, Sean boy. This book
is which where is it where it

2755
02:45:02,910 --> 02:45:08,820
would have been this was
hilarious. Hey, go to Atlanta

2756
02:45:08,820 --> 02:45:14,370
tennis monsters.com and get
yourself some great great T

2757
02:45:14,370 --> 02:45:18,330
shirts. Voice Yeah, that's

2758
02:45:18,330 --> 02:45:20,130
Adam Curry: the voice I think
that's the one. I was thinking

2759
02:45:20,130 --> 02:45:22,080
of creating a shirt that says
everything I learned about

2760
02:45:22,080 --> 02:45:25,470
podcasting I learned from Adam
curry not just don't just don't

2761
02:45:25,470 --> 02:45:28,950
Please don't. Lastly, can we
request podcast calm before

2762
02:45:28,950 --> 02:45:33,000
Atlanta tennis podcast? Is that
a thing? If not, can it be?

2763
02:45:33,030 --> 02:45:35,730
Well, of course it can if I give
it to you. Absolutely. Thanks.

2764
02:45:35,910 --> 02:45:39,060
And if you ever need a tennis
expert send me a note Sean Boyce

2765
02:45:39,060 --> 02:45:41,880
and my smokin hot wife and
business partner Giovanni

2766
02:45:42,270 --> 02:45:48,570
Buford, Georgia jobs, jobs, jobs
and jobs for jobs.

2767
02:45:52,740 --> 02:45:57,390
John C Dvorak: Now we have a
$333 donation from Switzerland

2768
02:45:57,390 --> 02:46:02,640
from Moran a bear in heart. Bear
in hearts good router.

2769
02:46:04,410 --> 02:46:07,170
Adam Curry: Which means that
which means St. Bernard's

2770
02:46:07,170 --> 02:46:12,060
greeter oh, maybe it sounded
funny

2771
02:46:12,090 --> 02:46:17,490
John C Dvorak: but sounds like
it 333 And I will give him a

2772
02:46:17,490 --> 02:46:18,030
double up.

2773
02:46:18,690 --> 02:46:26,700
Adam Curry: No no, there you go.
You've got karma takes us to our

2774
02:46:26,700 --> 02:46:30,990
first Associate Executive
Producer millennial Fred 250.

2775
02:46:30,990 --> 02:46:35,610
See attached note. Let me see
millennial Fred says donation.

2776
02:46:36,000 --> 02:46:38,790
Dear John and Adam, Adam and
John, here are some options for

2777
02:46:38,790 --> 02:46:43,260
your retirement plans. work
until you drop preferred by most

2778
02:46:43,260 --> 02:46:49,710
if not all shows your value or
potential final episodes 3333 or

2779
02:46:49,710 --> 02:46:57,660
2133 or 2121 or 2112. Adam check
your Pio box. Sincerely

2780
02:46:57,660 --> 02:47:00,660
millennial Fred, I will do that.
That will do millennial Fred,

2781
02:47:00,660 --> 02:47:01,110
thank you.

2782
02:47:01,200 --> 02:47:03,180
John C Dvorak: Do you still have
the old Pio box to

2783
02:47:03,210 --> 02:47:06,780
Adam Curry: know I have my Pio
box 1849 in Fredericksburg,

2784
02:47:06,780 --> 02:47:07,140
Texas

2785
02:47:07,170 --> 02:47:08,880
John C Dvorak: fair. What about
the old one that no no,

2786
02:47:08,910 --> 02:47:10,230
Adam Curry: no, that's long
gone.

2787
02:47:10,800 --> 02:47:12,960
John C Dvorak: Did you make sure
it was forwarded?

2788
02:47:12,960 --> 02:47:14,610
Adam Curry: Am I an idiot? Of
course.

2789
02:47:15,540 --> 02:47:18,060
John C Dvorak: But that's a
question that needs full show.

2790
02:47:18,090 --> 02:47:26,160
Go for it. Okay, Ryan do SEO in
Fishers Indiana. Rove ducks.

2791
02:47:27,000 --> 02:47:30,390
Two, two. Dang. And a great
note. Best note. Thank you for

2792
02:47:30,390 --> 02:47:32,430
your courage. See you in Indy.

2793
02:47:33,300 --> 02:47:36,600
Adam Curry: Stephen Rebus City
of Industry California row of

2794
02:47:36,600 --> 02:47:39,000
ducks. 222 dot 22 Greetings.

2795
02:47:39,510 --> 02:47:39,840
Unknown: Oh,

2796
02:47:39,870 --> 02:47:42,360
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I didn't
have these lined up. Of course.

2797
02:47:43,080 --> 02:47:46,860
Ah, another Trump. I'm gonna
come because it's so funny. So

2798
02:47:46,860 --> 02:47:49,710
funny. I'm going to start I'm
gonna have to start outlawing

2799
02:47:49,710 --> 02:47:57,570
this one. Trump comm All right,
Trump calm. And then, Orange.

2800
02:47:57,720 --> 02:48:01,350
Sorry, I didn't have these
prepped for some reason. I got

2801
02:48:01,350 --> 02:48:05,280
the orange. Where's the orange?
Orange Yellow is like an orange

2802
02:48:05,310 --> 02:48:09,450
orange is a big orange to have
the orange Yes, I've orange

2803
02:48:09,450 --> 02:48:16,050
yellow. And go karma from my
bros. Mick Tao Ben G Thank you.

2804
02:48:16,050 --> 02:48:19,440
PS bad MailChimp spank that
monkey. Haha.

2805
02:48:19,500 --> 02:48:32,370
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna come
you've got you've got sir FOD

2806
02:48:32,370 --> 02:48:36,930
father in Indianapolis, Indiana.
tu tu tu tu tu tu and he's also

2807
02:48:36,930 --> 02:48:41,850
known as Ted cattle in the
morning, thank you. Savor

2808
02:48:41,880 --> 02:48:45,090
saviors of sanity for all you
do. May you never find an exit

2809
02:48:45,090 --> 02:48:48,750
strategy as proof that I do
occasionally give a duck. I

2810
02:48:48,750 --> 02:48:54,600
present the enclosed row of
ducks the value of which shall

2811
02:48:54,600 --> 02:48:58,380
hoist me over the bar from
Baronet to the exalted title of

2812
02:48:58,380 --> 02:49:02,640
Baron. To the peerage committee
find no objection to title sir

2813
02:49:02,640 --> 02:49:08,190
FOD. Father shall be retired and
I shall henceforth be known as

2814
02:49:08,190 --> 02:49:14,070
Sir Edward of tattenhall. Baron
of flyover country, jingle

2815
02:49:14,100 --> 02:49:18,630
little girl. Yay. And he says I
just made just in time for a

2816
02:49:18,630 --> 02:49:22,590
visit from Adam and Tina to the
Circle City. Whoo hoo. See you

2817
02:49:22,590 --> 02:49:27,780
in December, Adam and John, You
are cordially invited as well.

2818
02:49:27,930 --> 02:49:30,540
Come on down. Love is lit.

2819
02:49:32,280 --> 02:49:36,240
Adam Curry: Yes, tomorrow. Tina,
the keeper and I will be flying

2820
02:49:36,240 --> 02:49:40,620
to Indianapolis for a meetup
tomorrow evening. And we're very

2821
02:49:40,620 --> 02:49:44,250
much looking forward to it. We
spoke to mark and Maria, who

2822
02:49:44,250 --> 02:49:47,880
organized all of these meetups
and so apparently they have a

2823
02:49:47,880 --> 02:49:51,810
stage there and they had a great
idea which I agreed to. They

2824
02:49:51,810 --> 02:49:56,490
want to do ask Adam so everybody
will be writing down their last.

2825
02:49:58,740 --> 02:50:01,650
Funny you had the same reaction
I had except I was quiet about

2826
02:50:01,650 --> 02:50:04,710
it when I'm gone. Okay. Yeah,
great idea. So we'll do that.

2827
02:50:04,710 --> 02:50:08,970
But I have a condition. The
meetup report, which is always

2828
02:50:08,970 --> 02:50:12,870
very professionally produced
from the indie crowd, I want you

2829
02:50:12,900 --> 02:50:15,840
first thing that comes to your
mind, I want you to instead of

2830
02:50:15,840 --> 02:50:23,010
your typical, no, no. No, I want
you to tell me the thing you are

2831
02:50:23,010 --> 02:50:26,400
most grateful for this year.
That is what I want everybody to

2832
02:50:26,400 --> 02:50:30,000
do for the meetup report. That
is, so we need to shake these

2833
02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:35,640
things up a little bit. See? Oh,
please. Dane Beth is in Tucson.

2834
02:50:35,640 --> 02:50:39,510
Arizona to 22 Hi. Oh, boys.
Here's my annual birthday gift

2835
02:50:39,510 --> 02:50:44,010
to myself. Boy I'm sorry, I
forgot the yay. Here's my annual

2836
02:50:44,010 --> 02:50:47,520
birthday gift to myself
supporting the beat podcast in

2837
02:50:47,520 --> 02:50:53,040
the universe. I hope she meant
best. Born on 12 Two at 2222

2838
02:50:53,040 --> 02:50:56,370
hence the dollar amount. Tucson
slaves watch for a meet up in

2839
02:50:56,370 --> 02:50:59,520
the new year. No jiggles no
karma Dame Beth bareness of Baja

2840
02:50:59,520 --> 02:51:00,240
Arizona

2841
02:51:02,490 --> 02:51:04,650
John C Dvorak: I don't have a
name on line 15

2842
02:51:04,680 --> 02:51:08,730
Adam Curry: No, I don't have his
name either. Funny enough. The

2843
02:51:08,760 --> 02:51:11,250
the amount is typical or at
least we're gonna

2844
02:51:11,250 --> 02:51:15,000
John C Dvorak: get a make good
from whoever sent us $207.49

2845
02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:17,400
Let's give him a double up karma
whom ever they are.

2846
02:51:18,540 --> 02:51:19,350
Unknown: You've got

2847
02:51:24,690 --> 02:51:28,140
Adam Curry: then we have Joe
death in new Baltimore, Michigan

2848
02:51:28,140 --> 02:51:31,980
200 In The Morning John Adam
today December 30 is my birthday

2849
02:51:31,980 --> 02:51:34,800
happy birthday. And what better
birthday present to myself to

2850
02:51:34,800 --> 02:51:37,500
becoming a producer of the best
podcast in the universe. This is

2851
02:51:37,500 --> 02:51:45,660
also my first donation please do
doo dee doo sched was hitting

2852
02:51:46,080 --> 02:51:49,530
was hitting the mouth. I was hit
in the mouth by Buddy last year

2853
02:51:49,530 --> 02:51:52,590
and I've been faithfully
listening since please also call

2854
02:51:52,590 --> 02:51:58,020
this buddy out as a giant douche
bag. He knows who he is for

2855
02:51:58,020 --> 02:52:01,230
jingles. Can I get a biscuit for
my birthday? Yes, of course you

2856
02:52:01,230 --> 02:52:05,430
can. A little Reverend owl and a
goat karma. Well we can

2857
02:52:05,430 --> 02:52:07,980
definitely give you a little
Reverend Al we love doing it

2858
02:52:07,980 --> 02:52:09,180
goat karma as well.

2859
02:52:09,210 --> 02:52:16,680
John C Dvorak: They always give
me a biscuit on my birthday. ESP

2860
02:52:16,680 --> 02:52:25,020
I see? You've got karma. And I
think he got on the birthday

2861
02:52:25,020 --> 02:52:31,380
list is marked as such. Debbie
and Lake Mary Florida. $200. No

2862
02:52:31,740 --> 02:52:35,490
note whatsoever. Give them a
double up karma. Or a she?

2863
02:52:35,520 --> 02:52:41,880
Adam Curry: You've got karma.
All right. Then we have John

2864
02:52:41,880 --> 02:52:46,590
Cooper, who was in China,
Michigan. Is there really a

2865
02:52:46,590 --> 02:52:48,060
place called China Michigan?

2866
02:52:48,090 --> 02:52:49,920
John C Dvorak: Probably Wow,
that's

2867
02:52:50,220 --> 02:52:50,850
Adam Curry: rough.

2868
02:52:51,600 --> 02:52:53,970
John C Dvorak: I can get it.
Where are you from? I'm from

2869
02:52:53,970 --> 02:52:55,860
China. What you don't look at

2870
02:52:57,810 --> 02:53:01,710
Adam Curry: those kinds of suck
from China. I can't go to India

2871
02:53:01,710 --> 02:53:07,530
as a peasant. So I tallied my
donations to learn my 2053 makes

2872
02:53:07,530 --> 02:53:11,490
me an instant Baronet. pleased
to announce to Kate me as

2873
02:53:11,490 --> 02:53:15,720
Baronet John of the St. Clair
low lands with Ryan rye whiskey

2874
02:53:15,720 --> 02:53:18,780
and grilled beef at the
roundtable. No jingles no karma.

2875
02:53:18,780 --> 02:53:21,450
Many thanks, John Cooper from
China, Michigan.

2876
02:53:22,170 --> 02:53:25,950
John C Dvorak: And then last on
our list. I believe it's last is

2877
02:53:25,980 --> 02:53:31,080
yes. Linda Lou packin ha. She's
in Lakewood, Colorado and she

2878
02:53:31,080 --> 02:53:34,560
wants jobs coming by the way.
For a remarkable resume that

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k.com or just find Linda Lou Pat
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list jobs,

2883
02:53:46,350 --> 02:53:48,930
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.

2884
02:53:52,800 --> 02:53:56,460
Adam Curry: Congratulations and
salutations to these executive

2885
02:53:56,460 --> 02:53:59,040
and Associate Executive
producers. Why congratulations

2886
02:53:59,040 --> 02:54:01,800
because not only have you
supported the best podcast in

2887
02:54:01,800 --> 02:54:04,800
the universe with your producer
ship. These are titles that are

2888
02:54:04,800 --> 02:54:09,150
real and usable anywhere credits
of this nature are recognized

2889
02:54:09,150 --> 02:54:12,090
which is show business. So you
can use it in your LinkedIn

2890
02:54:12,090 --> 02:54:14,670
profile, use it on your resume.
And of course you can if you

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02:54:14,670 --> 02:54:17,580
don't have one, you can open up
an IMDB account, they are

2892
02:54:17,580 --> 02:54:21,420
universally recognized there.
Almost 1000 Executive Associate

2893
02:54:21,420 --> 02:54:24,960
Executive producers in IMDb
including some real heavy

2894
02:54:24,960 --> 02:54:28,380
hitters from Hollywood itself.
And thank you all so much for

2895
02:54:28,380 --> 02:54:31,620
supporting us. We really
appreciate it. And we also want

2896
02:54:31,620 --> 02:54:34,590
to thank everyone who came in
under $50 For reasons of

2897
02:54:34,590 --> 02:54:38,490
anonymity. We never mentioned
any names under that amount, but

2898
02:54:38,490 --> 02:54:41,820
we have a lot of people who just
give us $5 From time to time

2899
02:54:41,820 --> 02:54:45,210
when they can we love you just
the same. Thank you so much the

2900
02:54:45,210 --> 02:54:48,570
value is in the amount that is
valued to you and what you can

2901
02:54:48,570 --> 02:54:52,170
afford. So thank you for anyone
who support us in any amount.

2902
02:54:52,380 --> 02:54:54,570
And John will take us through
the 50s and then we'll get into

2903
02:54:54,570 --> 02:54:56,160
our meetups and a couple other
things.

2904
02:54:56,310 --> 02:55:00,120
John C Dvorak: Sir am Andrew
Jones starts us off and $11 Is

2905
02:55:00,120 --> 02:55:03,630
11 cents and he also actually
did send in a nice car.

2906
02:55:04,590 --> 02:55:07,740
Adam Curry: Isn't he the book
guy? am Andrew Jones I remember

2907
02:55:07,740 --> 02:55:10,380
him he's we He sends us books.
We've read his books. I think

2908
02:55:10,380 --> 02:55:11,190
we've read his books.

2909
02:55:12,000 --> 02:55:14,550
John C Dvorak: Well, he does
also draws. He drew a little

2910
02:55:14,550 --> 02:55:18,480
mountain on his card is very
cute. He says, Thanks, sir Ted

2911
02:55:18,480 --> 02:55:24,780
in mendon New York. $111.11 just
$111 Baron lategan in Houston,

2912
02:55:24,780 --> 02:55:28,590
Texas. $100 right John
neurobion. A $100. Kevin

2913
02:55:28,590 --> 02:55:33,330
McLaughlin is up there already
Concord North Carolina. Boobs.

2914
02:55:33,510 --> 02:55:39,660
808 The ultimate pick me up he
writes William Alston in El

2915
02:55:39,660 --> 02:55:46,950
Paso, Texas 808. He says thanks
for the infotainment, Sam Deaton

2916
02:55:46,950 --> 02:55:55,320
in signal mountain Tennessee
7258. Jose already parrot per

2917
02:55:55,320 --> 02:56:01,320
bred A's Paret A's parodies
Paradesi in Wichita, Kansas,

2918
02:56:01,860 --> 02:56:07,710
that 6993 He's got a wife call
out for his his wife, a wife

2919
02:56:07,710 --> 02:56:11,970
called call her birthday wife
call her wife call out Shayla

2920
02:56:12,930 --> 02:56:18,000
Jim breath in north Wales
Pennsylvania. 6666 Parentis was

2921
02:56:18,000 --> 02:56:22,230
6933 If I didn't say Kevin
McLaughlin is backwards 606 with

2922
02:56:22,230 --> 02:56:27,720
the comment. Boobs are perfect.
Boobs are the perfect gift for

2923
02:56:27,750 --> 02:56:31,470
it's what it says boobs are the
perfect gift for any occasion.

2924
02:56:33,120 --> 02:56:37,350
Except the grim Marion's
occasions. Peter Chung and that

2925
02:56:37,350 --> 02:56:43,290
was 606 Peter Chung in Lakewood,
Washington. 5510 Brian Furley

2926
02:56:43,380 --> 02:56:50,880
5510 Jordan Polino in Salem,
Oregon 50 Opps these are all $50

2927
02:56:50,880 --> 02:56:55,260
donors were there already as a
shortlist the starting with

2928
02:56:55,650 --> 02:57:01,920
gays, Justin as Justin Heiner
and he's just in time. Tony Lang

2929
02:57:01,920 --> 02:57:07,770
Castle Pines Colorado, dotted
mind Lincoln, UK. James

2930
02:57:07,770 --> 02:57:13,380
sheremeta in Napa anak New York.
Kirkpatrick in nine Nanaimo,

2931
02:57:13,470 --> 02:57:16,140
British Columbia and for some
reason starting to pronounce

2932
02:57:16,140 --> 02:57:17,880
that wrong. Is that the dog
girls,

2933
02:57:18,450 --> 02:57:20,070
Adam Curry: but I did hear the
dog.

2934
02:57:21,630 --> 02:57:22,890
John C Dvorak: I didn't play a
dog. No, I

2935
02:57:22,890 --> 02:57:24,240
Adam Curry: thought I heard the
basset hound.

2936
02:57:24,270 --> 02:57:27,240
John C Dvorak: And now there's
no dog here. Oh, that dog. Oh,

2937
02:57:27,240 --> 02:57:32,460
hey, this this guy. I love my
truck and I love what I do. I

2938
02:57:32,460 --> 02:57:37,380
was hurt Patrick and I Nymo
Let's go 50 Charles Peterson

2939
02:57:37,380 --> 02:57:41,400
with a D in Albuquerque. Jacob
Martinez in El montay,

2940
02:57:41,400 --> 02:57:45,360
California, Brett Farrell, who I
believe is in New York City. And

2941
02:57:45,360 --> 02:57:48,960
last on his short list of very
short donation lists today as we

2942
02:57:48,960 --> 02:57:54,960
expected after the promotion was
over Baroness night in Edmond

2943
02:57:54,990 --> 02:57:58,140
Washington. That's our group. We
have

2944
02:57:58,170 --> 02:58:01,980
Adam Curry: a we have a couple
of make goods and things that

2945
02:58:02,430 --> 02:58:07,410
need correcting. Three in total.
Sir Gary, who came in under 50

2946
02:58:07,410 --> 02:58:11,250
and did want us to read his
note. Sir Gary of Kasko point on

2947
02:58:11,250 --> 02:58:14,400
Lake Minnetonka here fantastic
show. This week I'm writing and

2948
02:58:14,400 --> 02:58:17,580
attaching a spreadsheet showing
these exceeded the level needed

2949
02:58:17,580 --> 02:58:20,490
as of December to become a
Baronet. If I may put in a

2950
02:58:20,490 --> 02:58:23,310
shameless plug for a noble
organization. I am State

2951
02:58:23,310 --> 02:58:26,940
Director for bugles across
America, at bugles across

2952
02:58:26,940 --> 02:58:31,320
america.org. Our sole purpose is
providing live taps free of

2953
02:58:31,320 --> 02:58:35,070
charge for any US veteran
funeral honor services. Oh,

2954
02:58:35,070 --> 02:58:35,610
beautiful.

2955
02:58:35,670 --> 02:58:39,000
John C Dvorak: By the way, this
I got this note. And I said,

2956
02:58:39,480 --> 02:58:43,980
Wow, this is a very famous
organization. And they did some

2957
02:58:43,980 --> 02:58:46,890
local stories about him. Yes,
that's exactly what they do.

2958
02:58:46,890 --> 02:58:50,850
They bring out the bugler and
they can give taps to the some

2959
02:58:50,850 --> 02:58:53,790
of these funeral systems. And
this guy is the head of it, I

2960
02:58:53,790 --> 02:58:57,810
guess. Wow. And I'm a stunt.
This is an example of the kind

2961
02:58:57,810 --> 02:59:01,830
of astonishing producers we
have. I mean, this is like as I

2962
02:59:01,830 --> 02:59:03,660
was taken aback.

2963
02:59:04,770 --> 02:59:07,680
Adam Curry: Well, I wouldn't
mind a little no agenda bugle

2964
02:59:07,710 --> 02:59:11,790
recording, honestly, something
we could play on the show,

2965
02:59:12,360 --> 02:59:14,400
John C Dvorak: especially after
a short donation segment. I

2966
02:59:14,400 --> 02:59:15,960
think taps would be appropriate.
I

2967
02:59:15,960 --> 02:59:18,300
Adam Curry: don't want taps I
just want some do like I want to

2968
02:59:18,300 --> 02:59:21,960
charge thing or whatever.
Anyway, our sole purpose is and

2969
02:59:21,960 --> 02:59:24,240
you're right. This is a very
famous organization providing

2970
02:59:24,240 --> 02:59:27,060
live taps free of charge for any
US veterans funeral honor

2971
02:59:27,060 --> 02:59:30,870
services. The military authorize
the use of a recording of tabs

2972
02:59:30,870 --> 02:59:33,720
for these events in the year
2000. Since then, our founder

2973
02:59:33,720 --> 02:59:37,830
Tom day and some 4000 volunteers
he has assembled take care of

2974
02:59:37,830 --> 02:59:40,500
this last tribute to our
veterans Oh, I sees the military

2975
02:59:40,500 --> 02:59:44,130
but we'll just do it we'll just
use a recording and they said

2976
02:59:44,130 --> 02:59:47,670
John C Dvorak: no, they gave one
here on my phone. Yeah. God

2977
02:59:47,670 --> 02:59:49,590
Adam Curry: bless you guys.
We're doing that. If you could

2978
02:59:49,590 --> 02:59:52,110
just give the website ask people
to remember when their veteran

2979
02:59:52,110 --> 02:59:54,810
passes on that there's good
chance that they will have a

2980
02:59:54,810 --> 02:59:58,260
recorded taps performance rather
than having a heartbeat behind

2981
02:59:58,260 --> 03:00:01,800
those sacred 26 Notes. Just go
to the website put in the date

2982
03:00:01,800 --> 03:00:04,320
and details and someone will
contact you and be there for

2983
03:00:04,320 --> 03:00:08,520
your veteran. That's not too big
of an ask. We we love that you

2984
03:00:08,520 --> 03:00:12,960
do that. Sir another website.
Well, I'd mentioned it three

2985
03:00:12,960 --> 03:00:17,100
times bugles across america.com
bugle a.org. Bugles across

2986
03:00:17,100 --> 03:00:21,660
america.org bugles across
america.org? That's bugles

2987
03:00:21,660 --> 03:00:27,420
across america.org Sir Not sure
it says Dear John Adams, donated

2988
03:00:27,420 --> 03:00:30,810
for show 1611 I want to express
the value I receive is

2989
03:00:30,810 --> 03:00:34,230
priceless. When every news
source tries to cover up the

2990
03:00:34,230 --> 03:00:37,890
truth you guys kept me sane to
the so called pandemic at a time

2991
03:00:37,890 --> 03:00:41,040
when fear was shoved down our
throats. I would like to claim

2992
03:00:41,070 --> 03:00:46,680
this he did the 333333 donation.
I would like yeah, then he had

2993
03:00:46,680 --> 03:00:51,420
no no big one. Note, I would
like to claim the title Baron

2994
03:00:51,420 --> 03:00:53,670
keeper of the tri lakes If
approved by the peerage

2995
03:00:53,670 --> 03:00:58,350
committee. I'd also like to call
out Alex, Russia as a douchebag

2996
03:01:00,240 --> 03:01:02,940
thanks for bringing me to your
show, though. Love is lit. Thank

2997
03:01:02,940 --> 03:01:07,560
you guys for Mark brushroll. And
finally, sir Julian says I was

2998
03:01:07,560 --> 03:01:11,310
originally United back in
episode 1184 titled objects it

2999
03:01:11,760 --> 03:01:14,430
with a night name that I found
to be funny at the time, but

3000
03:01:14,430 --> 03:01:18,000
it's not family friendly. My
last donation on November 20,

3001
03:01:18,000 --> 03:01:22,200
put me well over the necessary
level in donations, which I do

3002
03:01:22,200 --> 03:01:26,160
believe makes me a baron. For my
title change. I would like to be

3003
03:01:26,160 --> 03:01:29,190
known as Sir Julian Baron of the
Santa Cruz Mountains of this

3004
03:01:29,190 --> 03:01:32,370
territory is available, John
available. Yeah, it's good. But

3005
03:01:32,370 --> 03:01:34,260
John C Dvorak: what was his old
name that he didn't like? Oh,

3006
03:01:34,260 --> 03:01:34,440
it's

3007
03:01:34,440 --> 03:01:38,790
Adam Curry: apparently not good.
But the note gets more

3008
03:01:38,790 --> 03:01:41,730
interesting. This is truly the
best podcast in the universe.

3009
03:01:41,730 --> 03:01:43,950
And I don't know where I'd be
without it. I'm grateful that

3010
03:01:43,950 --> 03:01:47,640
you to do what you do. You guys
always say that. Couples that

3011
03:01:47,640 --> 03:01:51,300
listen together, stay together.
Well, that idea is being tested

3012
03:01:51,300 --> 03:01:55,080
right now. Because of me, I
would really appreciate all the

3013
03:01:55,080 --> 03:02:01,800
relationship karma I can get
right now. And he doesn't know

3014
03:02:01,800 --> 03:02:02,730
like, wow, this

3015
03:02:02,730 --> 03:02:03,780
John C Dvorak: is a bad thing.

3016
03:02:03,870 --> 03:02:08,640
Adam Curry: He has a note to the
love of my life. Babe. I love

3017
03:02:08,640 --> 03:02:11,940
you from the bottom of my heart.
And I don't know what to do

3018
03:02:11,940 --> 03:02:16,200
without you. I hope you can find
it in your heart to forgive me.

3019
03:02:17,460 --> 03:02:26,820
Julian forgiving Harmar I would
say he messed it up. Big time.

3020
03:02:28,050 --> 03:02:29,490
Big time big time.

3021
03:02:30,000 --> 03:02:31,170
John C Dvorak: Not getting
bashed.

3022
03:02:32,820 --> 03:02:34,920
Adam Curry: You just making
things worse. The guy's trying

3023
03:02:34,920 --> 03:02:38,850
to you know trying to patch
things up man. Like have a heart

3024
03:02:39,270 --> 03:02:42,930
of a heart of a heart. Thank you
everybody for supporting the

3025
03:02:42,930 --> 03:02:45,060
best podcast in the universe,
especially our execs and

3026
03:02:45,060 --> 03:02:47,670
Associate Executive producers.
Thank you for supporting us here

3027
03:02:47,670 --> 03:02:52,110
for episode 1103 formula. One,

3028
03:02:52,710 --> 03:02:55,200
Unknown: we go out 60 People in
the mouth

3029
03:02:57,900 --> 03:02:58,860
Adam Curry: out of control

3030
03:03:02,910 --> 03:03:04,170
Unknown: 1613.

3031
03:03:15,150 --> 03:03:17,130
Adam Curry: We do have a couple
of birthdays to celebrate we

3032
03:03:17,130 --> 03:03:22,260
have four Kirkenes who turned 62
Yesterday. Dane also celebrated

3033
03:03:22,260 --> 03:03:27,690
yesterday. Joe Duffin turns 27
Today Jose bananas by Autodesk

3034
03:03:27,840 --> 03:03:30,930
wishes his wife Shayla Happy
Birthday she's celebrating

3035
03:03:30,930 --> 03:03:35,190
today. Zack Taylor turns 54
pluma Happy Birthday to Keeley

3036
03:03:35,190 --> 03:03:41,430
Rico for tomorrow and on the
fifth. My uncle Donald Greg will

3037
03:03:41,430 --> 03:03:45,510
be turning 96 years old Happy
Birthday uncle Don and Carl

3038
03:03:45,510 --> 03:03:49,200
posed wishes his smokin hot wife
Donna posted a very happy

3039
03:03:49,200 --> 03:03:52,260
birthday happy birthday from
everybody in the best podcast in

3040
03:03:52,260 --> 03:03:53,250
the universe

3041
03:04:02,640 --> 03:04:05,730
don't want to be induced. You
heard a couple of those tidal

3042
03:04:05,730 --> 03:04:09,930
changes here they are listed in
appropriate order. We have

3043
03:04:09,930 --> 03:04:13,260
served area of Casco point and
on Lake Manitoba becomes a

3044
03:04:13,260 --> 03:04:17,100
Baronet Sir Not sure become
certain on shore barren keep up

3045
03:04:17,100 --> 03:04:19,890
the tri lakes are Julian's or
Julian Baron of the Santa Cruz

3046
03:04:19,890 --> 03:04:23,280
Mountains and certified father
becomes a Baronet Sir Edward

3047
03:04:23,760 --> 03:04:27,480
Hall, Baron of flyover country
Thank you all very much for

3048
03:04:27,480 --> 03:04:30,570
supporting us here at the no
agenda show. It is highly

3049
03:04:30,570 --> 03:04:33,960
appreciated. We do have a dame
which is of course there was the

3050
03:04:33,960 --> 03:04:37,470
pluma that we messed up and we
have a couple of nights so let's

3051
03:04:37,470 --> 03:04:40,080
get a nice one to rest on. pluma
shoulder there, John.

3052
03:04:40,620 --> 03:04:41,190
John C Dvorak: Here you go.

3053
03:04:41,640 --> 03:04:45,960
Adam Curry: Oh, that isn't nice.
Come on up. Sorry. Sorry. We

3054
03:04:45,960 --> 03:04:50,700
messed it up. Works for John
Brownlee. John Cooper. Hop on

3055
03:04:50,700 --> 03:04:53,940
over here if you don't mind
please. I'm very proud to

3056
03:04:53,940 --> 03:04:59,250
pronounce the cane vs. Bluma
dame of the feathered whales,

3057
03:04:59,250 --> 03:05:04,050
sir dirt Sir protector of the
driftless area and Baronet John

3058
03:05:04,080 --> 03:05:06,960
of the St. Clair lowlands for
you we have hookers and blow

3059
03:05:06,960 --> 03:05:10,980
rent boys and Chardonnay along
with that apple pies, grandma's

3060
03:05:10,980 --> 03:05:15,480
hummus, rye whiskey and grilled
beef and of course, DEC red hide

3061
03:05:15,480 --> 03:05:18,330
redheads and rise we got
Rubenesque women and Rosae gay

3062
03:05:18,330 --> 03:05:21,900
son and sock a bong hits and
bourbon, ginger ale and Jerboas

3063
03:05:21,900 --> 03:05:27,090
breast milk and pablum sparkling
cider and escorts and mutton and

3064
03:05:27,090 --> 03:05:29,970
meat everybody loves the mutton
and meat and I would also like

3065
03:05:29,970 --> 03:05:35,160
to welcome the word fuller as a
doctor and he can also go to no

3066
03:05:35,160 --> 03:05:38,340
agenda rings.com no agenda
rings.com where you will see

3067
03:05:38,340 --> 03:05:41,610
pictures of your beautiful
knight or Dame rings. Also it

3068
03:05:41,610 --> 03:05:45,750
comes with wax to seal your
important correspondence with in

3069
03:05:45,750 --> 03:05:49,080
addition to that a certificate
of authenticity. All you have to

3070
03:05:49,080 --> 03:05:54,570
do is make sure that you give us
an address to send it to and a

3071
03:05:54,570 --> 03:05:57,900
ring size. All of that will be
making it a lot easier to get

3072
03:05:57,900 --> 03:06:01,260
that to you thank you so much
for being here for us the best

3073
03:06:01,260 --> 03:06:04,500
podcast in the universe. No one
said

3074
03:06:11,790 --> 03:06:15,240
like a party we had a meetup
taking place in the Netherlands,

3075
03:06:15,240 --> 03:06:22,110
no audible report but this was
Tilburg Cafe Kandinsky and let's

3076
03:06:22,110 --> 03:06:25,680
see on our producer there so do
John out on the meetup in

3077
03:06:25,680 --> 03:06:29,250
Tilburg went well Baron Robbins
or Detective Do terace We're

3078
03:06:29,250 --> 03:06:33,330
joined by for first timers who
had traveled from afar Roland, a

3079
03:06:33,330 --> 03:06:36,480
recent recent Associate
Executive Producer, Umbro

3080
03:06:36,480 --> 03:06:40,710
Katrina and Ralph and dog turbo.
We had great conversations

3081
03:06:40,710 --> 03:06:43,380
through quality time well spent,
thanks to all and thank you for

3082
03:06:43,380 --> 03:06:46,350
your courage and we go over to
the report from Denver

3083
03:06:46,380 --> 03:06:48,780
Unknown: Denver meetup checking
the shift hand up notes from the

3084
03:06:48,780 --> 03:06:52,530
Netherlands meetup we drank a
lot of beer a bunch of people

3085
03:06:52,530 --> 03:06:55,350
were smoking weed but they're
trying to hide it from us and

3086
03:06:55,500 --> 03:06:58,740
mirror nook in a lot of mirror
and looking in the conversations

3087
03:06:58,770 --> 03:07:02,130
I guess will keep the meetup
going on our global round the

3088
03:07:02,130 --> 03:07:05,970
world no agenda meetups thanks
everybody. Yeah,

3089
03:07:06,240 --> 03:07:10,320
great meet up this is Sir our I
have Georgia on my Mind.

3090
03:07:10,680 --> 03:07:15,600
Colorado Carebear at the Denver
meetup. Tito ITM

3091
03:07:15,630 --> 03:07:19,020
Josh the Samsung checking in
from North Aurora. This is him

3092
03:07:19,020 --> 03:07:22,140
Andrew Jones still napping for
human quarry in

3093
03:07:22,140 --> 03:07:23,850
the morning, sir soothsayer

3094
03:07:23,850 --> 03:07:26,520
here. Thank you John for
actually spelling My name or

3095
03:07:26,520 --> 03:07:29,430
saying my name correctly. Brand
fairly. That's the way you say

3096
03:07:29,430 --> 03:07:30,990
it in the morning.

3097
03:07:33,720 --> 03:07:38,130
Adam Curry: meet ups. Today. A
meet up in Cheyenne is underway.

3098
03:07:38,130 --> 03:07:41,010
I believe it chronicles
distillery in Cheyenne, Wyoming

3099
03:07:41,010 --> 03:07:45,120
on tomorrow. We have the
December nd no agenda meetup.

3100
03:07:45,450 --> 03:07:48,630
That's right the flying to
flyover country event at the

3101
03:07:48,630 --> 03:07:52,470
dugout bar and I will be there
with my keeper kicking off at

3102
03:07:52,470 --> 03:07:56,820
seven o'clock. Looking forward
to it's gonna be a blast. On

3103
03:07:56,820 --> 03:07:59,790
Wednesday, the fourth monthly
Webster County whet your whistle

3104
03:07:59,790 --> 03:08:02,700
meet up five o'clock at
Community tap and pizza Fort

3105
03:08:02,700 --> 03:08:07,680
Dodge Iowa. And the next show
day Thursday five forks first

3106
03:08:07,680 --> 03:08:10,020
Thursday six o'clock at
Bullwinkle Tavern in

3107
03:08:10,020 --> 03:08:14,070
Simpsonville, South Carolina and
the North wake Thanksgiving

3108
03:08:14,070 --> 03:08:21,960
recovery circle of trust. Excuse
me. tepid water. Yep. And water.

3109
03:08:23,250 --> 03:08:26,970
Compass Rose brewery, Raleigh,
North Carolina and on the way

3110
03:08:26,970 --> 03:08:29,790
man we got a lot of meetups all
the way through Christmas and

3111
03:08:29,790 --> 03:08:34,110
beyond including December 22.
Sofia, Bulgaria looking forward

3112
03:08:34,110 --> 03:08:38,220
to a meet up report from that.
We have Houston Texas, Brooklyn,

3113
03:08:38,220 --> 03:08:42,240
New York, Brooklyn on the ninth
very interesting and February 3,

3114
03:08:42,270 --> 03:08:46,710
Albany, California to get John
out of the house. 2.0 meet up

3115
03:08:46,710 --> 03:08:47,190
you going.

3116
03:08:47,220 --> 03:08:49,020
John C Dvorak: Yeah, looks like
it. Yeah, I guess so.

3117
03:08:49,080 --> 03:08:52,050
Adam Curry: I'm excited. That'll
be good. So finally you get out

3118
03:08:52,050 --> 03:08:53,790
of the house. Again,

3119
03:08:54,270 --> 03:08:55,320
John C Dvorak: once it

3120
03:08:55,320 --> 03:08:58,020
Adam Curry: happens twice a
year. It's amazing how that

3121
03:08:58,020 --> 03:09:01,560
works. Those are your no agenda
meet ups. Make sure you go to at

3122
03:09:01,560 --> 03:09:04,350
least one of these in your
lifetime. And once you do, it's

3123
03:09:04,350 --> 03:09:06,900
like Pringles you can't you
gotta eat them all. You can't

3124
03:09:06,900 --> 03:09:11,340
stop because just like we said
earlier, our demo is the world

3125
03:09:11,340 --> 03:09:15,480
you will be thrilled to meet
people that you might not have

3126
03:09:15,660 --> 03:09:19,620
had a conversation with
otherwise, it is the companion

3127
03:09:19,620 --> 03:09:22,800
to the podcast, go out meet some
of your producers. No agenda

3128
03:09:22,800 --> 03:09:26,340
meetups.com If you can't find
one near you start one yourself

3129
03:09:26,340 --> 03:09:29,160
and remember, connection is
protection.

3130
03:09:31,980 --> 03:09:42,360
Unknown: Hang out with Tyson
days. You'd be triggered. You

3131
03:09:42,360 --> 03:09:45,720
want to be everybody feels the
same.

3132
03:09:48,060 --> 03:09:51,690
Adam Curry: Like it's always
like a party. We truly are

3133
03:09:51,690 --> 03:09:55,260
parties. It's a great party. To
me. It's just like a party

3134
03:09:55,260 --> 03:10:00,750
that's on fire. Not like a like
a collection another party's

3135
03:10:01,500 --> 03:10:01,980
cup.

3136
03:10:02,370 --> 03:10:02,940
Unknown: I like that. I

3137
03:10:02,940 --> 03:10:06,300
Adam Curry: only have one. Ice
so I feel bad. I'm falling down.

3138
03:10:06,300 --> 03:10:06,390
I

3139
03:10:06,390 --> 03:10:08,490
John C Dvorak: should feel about
what is it getting tea bag?

3140
03:10:08,520 --> 03:10:11,970
Unknown: There's no doubt about
it. What? We're getting tea bag,

3141
03:10:12,000 --> 03:10:14,100
John C Dvorak: there's no doubt
about it. We're getting tea

3142
03:10:14,100 --> 03:10:14,640
bagged.

3143
03:10:15,450 --> 03:10:16,260
Unknown: We're getting tea bag.

3144
03:10:16,290 --> 03:10:19,050
John C Dvorak: There's no doubt
about this Tucker, for whatever

3145
03:10:19,050 --> 03:10:22,470
reason. I don't know what the
hell that's about. It's not

3146
03:10:22,470 --> 03:10:26,760
good. It's no good. I have three
that are all usable. But let's

3147
03:10:26,760 --> 03:10:32,160
see which one you like. All the
requisite one second law. Okay.

3148
03:10:33,120 --> 03:10:35,700
So at the top I have that means
something. And that

3149
03:10:35,700 --> 03:10:38,520
Unknown: means something. Do I'd
like to up talk on that? Yeah.

3150
03:10:38,550 --> 03:10:39,060
Okay. Yeah, I

3151
03:10:39,060 --> 03:10:42,120
John C Dvorak: do, too. I like
that. devastated.

3152
03:10:42,360 --> 03:10:46,890
Adam Curry: I was devastated.
Not I still like the first one

3153
03:10:46,890 --> 03:10:47,730
better. Okay.

3154
03:10:48,210 --> 03:10:51,540
John C Dvorak: And then. Not
right. Something wasn't right.

3155
03:10:52,650 --> 03:10:54,180
Adam Curry: I think all of them

3156
03:10:54,180 --> 03:10:55,860
John C Dvorak: Yes. Interesting.
I didn't notice that when I

3157
03:10:56,040 --> 03:10:58,920
flipped them. But they all have
an uptick. And they're all Yeah,

3158
03:10:59,370 --> 03:11:02,670
Unknown: but this this is and
that means something. I liked

3159
03:11:02,670 --> 03:11:05,160
that one the best. Yeah, I think
that worked out really is good.

3160
03:11:05,190 --> 03:11:06,870
Oh, hold on. Now it's time for

3161
03:11:09,780 --> 03:11:13,830
Adam Curry: God see God. People
love this segment. They listened

3162
03:11:13,860 --> 03:11:17,250
to die. Don't believe that for a
minute. People love the good

3163
03:11:17,250 --> 03:11:20,550
news segment. It puts them in a
good mood. They're happy like,

3164
03:11:20,580 --> 03:11:24,930
Oh, now I can leave this program
and just feel good about myself.

3165
03:11:24,960 --> 03:11:29,610
Yes. Yes. People are telling me.
I love the good news. Nobody's

3166
03:11:29,610 --> 03:11:34,440
John C Dvorak: done this. But
okay. It's true. Good news. This

3167
03:11:34,440 --> 03:11:39,690
is the good news clip for today.
It's about the dog named mage.

3168
03:11:40,110 --> 03:11:43,590
Unknown: Firefighters leaped
into action saving 100 pound

3169
03:11:43,620 --> 03:11:47,700
Great Dane trapped in a deep
hole. This happened off an old

3170
03:11:47,700 --> 03:11:51,510
south a road and Lake Wheeler
road. Tonight we talked to Majus

3171
03:11:51,510 --> 03:11:58,440
owner about the rescue mission.
This is mage in happier times.

3172
03:11:59,070 --> 03:12:03,240
And this was mage on Saturday
afternoon. The 100 pound great

3173
03:12:03,240 --> 03:12:06,150
game fell into an old well 50
feet.

3174
03:12:06,330 --> 03:12:10,980
Oh no call 911 right away. And
you know they come out but they

3175
03:12:11,010 --> 03:12:13,920
they don't have the they have to
call the right department that

3176
03:12:13,920 --> 03:12:16,800
has the right equipment. You
know, they had to bring that

3177
03:12:16,800 --> 03:12:19,800
tripod situation with all the
climbing harnesses and

3178
03:12:19,800 --> 03:12:21,120
everything to get down there.

3179
03:12:21,330 --> 03:12:25,530
Crews from carry fire fear view
rural fire and Swift Creek Fire

3180
03:12:25,530 --> 03:12:30,180
Departments responded. They used
a rope rescue technique. It took

3181
03:12:30,180 --> 03:12:34,740
hours and plenty of patience for
crews were able to lift the mage

3182
03:12:34,740 --> 03:12:34,980
out.

3183
03:12:35,280 --> 03:12:39,540
I don't know. But unscathed. I
just can't even believe it. It's

3184
03:12:39,540 --> 03:12:42,510
quite a drop and it is covered
up now, by the way completely

3185
03:12:42,510 --> 03:12:47,400
covered up. So yeah. You know,
part of me kind of wanders.

3186
03:12:47,790 --> 03:12:51,030
Yeah, part of me kind of
wonders, you know, did she fall

3187
03:12:51,030 --> 03:12:52,110
to save someone else?

3188
03:12:52,140 --> 03:12:56,760
So how did mage get down in that
old Well, we found out mage is

3189
03:12:56,760 --> 03:13:00,420
owners now Dean's recently
purchased a property and the

3190
03:13:00,420 --> 03:13:04,050
wells it's quite a distance from
the family home. They didn't

3191
03:13:04,050 --> 03:13:08,370
think it would be a problem. But
now they know differently. Mudge

3192
03:13:08,370 --> 03:13:12,150
is now home safely. And her
family couldn't be more thankful

3193
03:13:12,180 --> 03:13:13,320
for first responder.

3194
03:13:13,350 --> 03:13:16,620
They did all of this for my dog.
I mean, and she is part of our

3195
03:13:16,620 --> 03:13:20,520
family truly. So God bless them.
I mean, they were very, very

3196
03:13:20,520 --> 03:13:23,040
organized. When they showed up.
They had a plan. They knew

3197
03:13:23,040 --> 03:13:25,110
exactly what to do. Oh, I

3198
03:13:25,110 --> 03:13:28,740
was so happy for months now that
well was covered before with

3199
03:13:28,740 --> 03:13:32,880
barbed wire. The family has now
covered it with some rebar. So

3200
03:13:32,880 --> 03:13:34,980
it doesn't happen to anyone
else.

3201
03:13:36,210 --> 03:13:44,280
Good news story from JCD happy
vibes for you and me and we all

3202
03:13:44,280 --> 03:13:49,440
feel better. Now he's done his
bit. To back to reality. That's

3203
03:13:49,440 --> 03:13:50,460
turning to shit.

3204
03:13:52,290 --> 03:13:55,110
Adam Curry: Good news. Good
news. Good news. Well done,

3205
03:13:55,110 --> 03:13:58,080
John. There's nothing like a
good good news story that's

3206
03:13:58,080 --> 03:14:02,850
about a dog. Dog. It's always
good. It's always good. There's

3207
03:14:02,850 --> 03:14:06,900
nothing wrong with it. Nothing
wrong at all. And we come to the

3208
03:14:06,900 --> 03:14:10,800
end of our media deconstruction
for this day. Thank you so much

3209
03:14:10,800 --> 03:14:15,720
for supporting us, dragging us
through. We hope you enjoyed it.

3210
03:14:15,750 --> 03:14:18,090
Hope you learned something. Hope
you got some value from it.

3211
03:14:18,720 --> 03:14:23,880
We've got that Larry show coming
up next on the on the tube on

3212
03:14:23,880 --> 03:14:29,550
the wires. It's episode 442
titled Mary Griffis Oh, that's

3213
03:14:29,550 --> 03:14:33,810
gonna be good lad Larry show and
the show mixes Neal Jones,

3214
03:14:33,810 --> 03:14:38,130
Stephen Jenkinson, and Jesse
Coyne Nelson who never

3215
03:14:38,130 --> 03:14:42,780
disappoints. Looking forward to
meeting everybody and indeed

3216
03:14:42,780 --> 03:14:47,520
tomorrow evening coming to you
from the parts of the Texas hill

3217
03:14:47,520 --> 03:14:50,010
country here in FEMA Region
number six in the morning,

3218
03:14:50,010 --> 03:14:52,170
everybody. I'm Adam curry and

3219
03:14:52,170 --> 03:14:55,050
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain.

3220
03:14:55,080 --> 03:14:56,430
I'm John C. Dvorak.

3221
03:14:56,550 --> 03:15:00,720
Adam Curry: And with that, we
bid you adieu We look forward to

3222
03:15:00,720 --> 03:15:04,380
seeing you again on Thursday.
I'll have my meetup reports and

3223
03:15:05,490 --> 03:15:09,390
all kinds of groovy stuff, no
doubt because the news never

3224
03:15:09,390 --> 03:15:12,330
stops. Nor does the
deconstruction. Remember us at

3225
03:15:12,330 --> 03:15:16,680
the borax.org/na until Thursday
on iOS mobile phones or who we

3226
03:15:16,680 --> 03:15:19,200
who eat and such.

3227
03:15:23,790 --> 03:15:25,350
Unknown: This was straight

3228
03:15:25,350 --> 03:15:31,860
out of Putin's playbook.
playbook, this playbook was

3229
03:15:31,860 --> 03:15:35,100
playbooks, playbooks, playbooks
playbook. We

3230
03:15:35,100 --> 03:15:40,440
know this is definitely part of
the Russian playbook. Russian

3231
03:15:41,310 --> 03:15:45,480
playbook playbook played in the
Russian, the Russian philosophy,

3232
03:15:45,480 --> 03:15:47,940
the Russian playbook will not
change. So I think that is the

3233
03:15:47,940 --> 03:15:49,860
Russian playbook. It is part

3234
03:15:49,860 --> 03:15:53,190
of the Russian playbook. The
tactics look familiar like a

3235
03:15:53,190 --> 03:15:56,280
page from Russia's playbook
because of what he called Rush's

3236
03:15:56,280 --> 03:15:58,320
playbook on murdering people.
Clearly

3237
03:15:58,320 --> 03:16:02,580
Russia benefits the most from
this and it does fit the Russian

3238
03:16:02,580 --> 03:16:03,000
playbook.

3239
03:16:11,130 --> 03:16:11,820
playbook and

3240
03:16:13,530 --> 03:16:18,180
Russia Russia's playbook. But
what Putin is doing in Ukraine

3241
03:16:18,360 --> 03:16:20,610
is actually straight out of the
Russian military planners

3242
03:16:20,610 --> 03:16:21,180
playbook.

3243
03:16:23,070 --> 03:16:29,700
Putin's playbook. playbook, a
playbook to win. The Republican

3244
03:16:29,700 --> 03:16:33,960
Party adopts Russia's
authoritarian playbook. So

3245
03:16:33,990 --> 03:16:38,580
Ukraine is a country Russia is a
major country, Russia in the

3246
03:16:38,580 --> 03:16:43,440
past century, Russia decided to
invade militarily unprovoked,

3247
03:16:43,470 --> 03:16:47,370
basically, that's wrong. We
respect the sovereignty and

3248
03:16:47,370 --> 03:16:54,600
territorial integrity. Right.
Right. Right. Right. Right.

3249
03:16:56,460 --> 03:17:07,140
Right. Right, right. Right.
Right. are saying that's wrong.

3250
03:17:07,260 --> 03:17:11,490
And we will stand with Ukraine
in saying that that is wrong. We

3251
03:17:11,490 --> 03:17:15,570
know that what Russia is doing
is wrong. There needs to be

3252
03:17:15,570 --> 03:17:20,220
severe consequences. You'll hear
on the news, their bad behavior.

3253
03:17:20,430 --> 03:17:24,540
You'll hear on the news, their
bad behavior. That's what the

3254
03:17:24,540 --> 03:17:29,610
issue is engineer bad behavior.
You'll hear on the news, their

3255
03:17:29,640 --> 03:17:33,810
bad behavior. That's what the
issue is essentially. Right.

3256
03:17:34,740 --> 03:17:44,880
Right, right. Right. Right.
Right. Right. Right. Right.

3257
03:17:54,270 --> 03:18:02,100
Where if you take out Saddam,
Saddam's regime, I guarantee

3258
03:18:02,820 --> 03:18:06,390
that it will have enormous
positive reverberations under

3259
03:18:08,580 --> 03:18:14,700
Judas. You lie in DC

3260
03:18:17,370 --> 03:18:20,430
if you take away the Soviet
Union, and its chief proxy, the

3261
03:18:20,430 --> 03:18:23,400
PLO, international terrorism
would collapse.

3262
03:18:37,980 --> 03:18:40,950
Any other nations that you would
recommend that the United States

3263
03:18:40,980 --> 03:18:43,530
launch pre emptive attacks upon
at this point?

3264
03:18:44,040 --> 03:18:48,600
The answer is categorically Yes.
Is Iraq and Iran but third

3265
03:18:48,600 --> 03:18:52,170
nation by the way is Libya as
well Libya is trying very

3266
03:18:52,170 --> 03:18:57,780
rapidly to build an atomic bomb
capability all stand together to

3267
03:18:57,780 --> 03:19:03,450
stop Iran's March of conquest,
subjugation and terror no matter

3268
03:19:03,450 --> 03:19:07,590
on which side of the island set
you stand with Israel.

3269
03:19:23,280 --> 03:19:30,300
mopho.org/n A and that means
something

