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John C Dvorak: I love pop up
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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi
Devora November 30 2023. This

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Year Award winning elimination
media assassination episode

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1612. This is no agenda,
celebrating our HDS and

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broadcasting live from the heart
of the country here and FEMA.

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Reason number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam

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curry here from

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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley where we're saying rip

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Henry Kissinger. That means it's
the end of the Adrenochrome

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shortage. I'm John C. Dvorak,
raglan.

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Adam Curry: Bushkill Are you
telling me that Kissinger was

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hoarding the Adrenochrome? But

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John C Dvorak: this guy must
have been using most of it? Most

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of the world's supply? Well,

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Adam Curry: well, that I did not
expect from you but I'm all in

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on it. Gets. You know, when you
think about it, the great reset.

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I keep saying you know, the
queen is gone. Kissinger is

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gone. Charlie Munger is gone.
The Pope is sick. We're almost

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at the great reset.

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John C Dvorak: Huh? Yeah, well,
I think those guys are all

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responsible for so maybe the
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, the a
great reset, maybe not the one

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they're expecting. Maybe not
that one. I have to ask you a

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quick question. Right off the
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John C Dvorak: who knows you
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money.

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Adam Curry: Who is a who was a
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Berkeley. Okay. And he's about
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big in the sports and donated
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donates. I'm not giving any more
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chance. Do you know John C.
Dvorak? Oh, of course I do.

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John C Dvorak: Bill, Bart. Bill,
Bart. Yeah.

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Adam Curry: b r dT. He's a wine
guy. He's into sailing.

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John C Dvorak: I may have met a
guy named Bill Bart. Well, he

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was like, he never shows up. He
never calls you never right.

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Adam Curry: Well, surprise,
surprise. Next time I see him

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say hey, man, John's all pissed
off. You never ride you never

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show up. You never called never
write. You never come to the

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alumni meetings.

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John C Dvorak: It was just it
was one of the I actually know

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they used to solicit me
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original thing was, it's if
you're a Cal graduate you,

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you've learned how to tell
people not know. But it's a

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Sunday teacher. And so I used to
say, well, you know, the problem

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is, Earl Anthony produced this
building and gave it to the

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university. And it had to be for
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to be used for a humor magazine.
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California pelican. And then out
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80s or something. They just took
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something else. And they stole
the building from this guy who

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donated it because of the guys
long dead. So they don't care.

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They do this all the time. All
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they take people's names off and
things as you know, no, yeah.

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And so that that kind of almost
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until they call one year and
then I haven't heard since I

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have not heard one call sense.
Do they call they said we should

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you know, alumni. We need money.
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Adam Curry: think they've heard
our show? Maybe like, off the

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list? And you said what

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John C Dvorak: I said, Well, I
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Cal is donating politically, and
they gave $1 million to the

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Barack Obama campaign. If you
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away. You don't need my money.
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Adam Curry: surprise. Who would
have thunk? Yeah, the bill,

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Billy, I think, isn't it? He
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the last time it was there, you
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uniforms for the volleyball
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Don, I'm not going to put it
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John C Dvorak: I'll be true. I
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right. Have you heard our show?

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Adam Curry: We always accept
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John C Dvorak: is good. Cash.
But we did weed but checks are

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easier to account for money
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Adam Curry: So just like we got
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from Richard Haass about
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winding down. I think I may have
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level, but I have a signal that
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discussed that much. But CBS has
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reporter who is complete spook
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face. She's blond, long blonde
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looking straight ahead at the
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John C Dvorak: CEO. That's yeah,
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Adam Curry: Okay, let me mark
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John, I can't remember. But
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mean, she's just a total spook,
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before. Maybe you have. She's on
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that our director of CIA is now
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hostage negotiations, which to
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possibly both. The Biden
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ripcord like this has got to
stop because the genocide Joe

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thing is out of control, a
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possibly that CIA is responsible
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And that then the CIA controls
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John C Dvorak: you know, the
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Biden to come back might be
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Adam Curry: there you go. Well,
let's listen to how can you

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imagine that you're so right, at
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interesting little tidbits in
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wouldn't start off at the the
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Hamas conflict, but this just
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I got to talk to John about it.
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Unknown: Intelligence and
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Well, there's lots of moving
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broadening the pool of hostages
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the eligibility to men and
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not most of the American
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Adam Curry: Okay, right off the
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most of the hostages held by
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men, are these agents. Are these
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is? I think the change in the
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all the women are out now, I
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lady. It's a

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Adam Curry: it's all weird. You
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three to one. And doesn't this
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important guy exchange that is
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these Palestinian detainees that
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John C Dvorak: So that's the
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that they grabbed from the West
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really interesting, because
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Now I know she's a spook for
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the CIA director to run point on
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Bill Burns has been deployed by

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Adam Curry: boy, he's been
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John C Dvorak: like a Swiss army
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knife. Yes, that's what that's
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knife and some of the thorniest
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Adam Curry: going to use the
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Unknown: is that it's confronted
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Taliban has the US left
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done good work to warn Vladimir
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Ukraine. Another good one, he
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relations with Beijing in the
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Adam Curry: Why, wow, this guy
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Unknown: So he's really been
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now he you know, he has been
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got a wealth of contacts. He's
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region. Robert, he's now got the
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chief of working behind the
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which some of these really tough
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Egypt, who similarly have a lot
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obscurity can make some real
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ties in Israel as well. That's
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John C Dvorak: What's his name?

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Adam Curry: Who the Mossad
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. I don't
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Adam Curry: And MD Mossad
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John C Dvorak: Gravity's Nisha,
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Adam Curry: So I think some
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not a part of this. And in fact,
Bibi has sunk so low, he went on

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Adam Curry: one and said the
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poles, their rockets, their
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going to win, because we have to
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forces of civilization against
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barbarism wins in our part of
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and America will be next.
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Adam Curry: The Houthis and the
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now part of the access of
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then spread their barbarism to
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fighting our war, but it's also
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your war. And our victory will
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Adam Curry: draw the line there.
Bibi. Let's draw the line there.

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But you're not fighting our war.
Now for him to go on. Live in to

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say that I think he's lost all
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John C Dvorak: Was it living
radio or TV show? Fox Fox Fox?

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Adam Curry: a lot of people
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Fox. No, nobody's watching Fox
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here. And you know, and this is
pretty desperate of him to say

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this and that you saved the
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John C Dvorak: And I find
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Adam Curry: And then, of course,
we need to up the propaganda

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everywhere. TRT Turkish Radio
Television love those guys.

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They've got a new one.

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Palestine guys. Report by the
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army confiscated dozens of
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Indonesian Hospital in northern
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report suggests that the Israeli
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from a masquerade and one of
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in Gaza linear al Bush, you're
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Oregon Tech were based on
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professionals in Al Shabaab.
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cochlea and corneas as well as
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Adam Curry: I know happen a
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good story more than a few hours
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John C Dvorak: that you'd be
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medical examination. Patients
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death allegations that the
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during a seizure of the medical
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Israel has been accused of
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Adam Curry: Yes, beautiful. So
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getting we got to counter the
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confuse everybody. We've got you
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everything he loved the Jew
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Unknown: I am still devastated.
We're two months since this war

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has been underway by the silence
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country about the rape being
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attack the fact that sexual
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have not come out and denounced
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every rule of law of warfare. It
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the fact that the United Nations
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and women's empowerment has been
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Elimination of Discrimination
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the international Mewtwo
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Adam Curry: it's no good just no
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John C Dvorak: from the Sheryl
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Adam Curry: see it. I didn't see
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John C Dvorak: Gosh, there's two
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should have gotten one I did
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post it but is the Oakland City
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know why the city council's do
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an anti Hamas resolution with
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Adam Curry: Just everywhere.

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John C Dvorak: Every idiot in
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city council meeting wearing the
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and screaming at the City
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Unknown: Good for you. Good for
you, Kathy. Yeah,

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John C Dvorak: this whole thing
is a scam and in the IDF shot

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those Israelis the IDF and they
blamed the whole thing is a

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giant conspiracy. You're being
suckered into it one person

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after another and all wearing
masks, of course.

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Adam Curry: Kifah Yeah. And
masks, and that's perfect.

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John C Dvorak: Perfect. So it's
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Adam Curry: then, and I'm
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Hughes, Ilan. I really think
that this was so well timed by

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him to go to Israel trounce
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I made a mistake. And I mean,
he's just been fantastic clips

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of Elon, we just have to play
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first of all, it solidifies my
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Twitter, that's for sure. It
won't be the same. But first, an

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ABC report that kind of
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Unknown: this morning, Elon Musk
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anti semitic conspiracy theory
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That might be literally the
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ever done. Speaking

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to The New York Times, the
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message for the companies who
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telling them don't advertise and
using an expletive, multiple

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times to emphasize this point.
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don't want them to ever to know.
What do you mean, if somebody's

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gonna try to blackmail me with
advertising blackmail me with

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My face mounting criticism after
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who falsely claimed Jewish
people are stoking hatred

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against white people. Musk
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actual truth. amid the fallout,
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Adam Curry: That is, by the way,
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mischaracterization of what
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very extensively three shows ago
mischaracterization of what what

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the tweet was about what he
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John C Dvorak: truth is that it
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Unknown: Okay, exactly the
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Musk visited Israel touring a
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is independent of of it wasn't
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the controversy could reportedly
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Adam Curry: Joe told me to go
we're gonna stop the genocide.

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Joseph wasn't apology to work
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Unknown: x up to $75 million in
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Adam Curry: did she say 75
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shouldn't it be 75 million
that's nothing 75

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the end of the year. Actually

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what what this advertising
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going to kill a company.

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They're gonna say Elon that you
killed the company because you

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said these things and that they
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they didn't feel comfortable on
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And let's see how Earth responds
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The long awaited Tesla's
cybertruck Today well, four

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years after a prototype was
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drawing mixed reactions. Its so
called armored glass proving to

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be anything but boy. Man, many
experts say the polarizing

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Adam Curry: I know they went
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John C Dvorak: That's a
chickenshit situation. Oh, it's

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beautiful.

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Adam Curry: This is hilarious.
He doesn't cares clarius

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Unknown: Many experts say the
polarizing vehicle could be

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another dent in the company's
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sales have stalled in the US and
Consumer Reports found EVs have

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79% more reliability problems
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Adam Curry: this will help so
we'll get to that because that's

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funny by itself. So the not only
is I think the entire war being

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blamed on on Elon but also the
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Everything is his fault.
Everything is elands fault now.

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So I had to pull three clips
from from This interview that he

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did at the New York Times deal
book Summit, you know, gleefully

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covered by CNBC. Because
everyone, especially the CNBC

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people, Andrew Ross Sorkin is
now analyzing Elon and I'm just

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gonna stick by my prediction
like he doesn't care about

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advertisers. He wants everybody
to stay engaged stay on the

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platform until he turns it into
a bank. That's that right

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John C Dvorak: on. I agree with
that. That's

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Adam Curry: what he's doing. So
here's how that rolled out with

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Andrew Ross Sorkin on stage with
a little less bleeping than ABC

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did what was that trip

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Unknown: like? And obviously by
the way, did

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Adam Curry: you see the flak
jacket he had on walking around?

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It was like a baby flak jacket.
It only covered his chest his to

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his midriff, I mean, his whole
stomach and, and groin was

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exposed. There was like, you
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John C Dvorak: Okay, you think
you have something a little more

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like even a catcher's?

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Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that's,
that's what you want. But no,

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no, he had just like, a little
little breastplate. Very odd.

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Unknown: What was that trip?
Like? And obviously, you know

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that there's a public perception
that you're clarifying this now.

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a apology tour, if you will.
This had been said online. There

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was all of the criticism that
was advertisers, leaving we

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talked about why

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you don't advertise? You

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don't want them to advertise?
What do you mean?

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If somebody's gonna try to
blackmail me with advertising,

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blackmail means money. yourself.
But go yourself? Is that clear?

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I hope it is. Hey, Bob, you're
in the audience?

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That's how I feel. Advertise,
actually, what what this

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advertising boycott is, is going
to do, it's going to kill the

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company. And you see, and the
whole world will know that those

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advertisers killed the company,
and we will document it in great

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detail.

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Adam Curry: Before we continue
with this clip, so he's saying

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the whole world will know that
they killed the company. I mean,

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the first thing that came to my
mind is perfect. declare

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bankruptcy. He buys it out of
bankruptcy turns it into a bank.

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Is that pot in the within the
realm of possibility?

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John C Dvorak: No, I don't think
he's gonna go that far. I don't

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think so. It's just an idle
threat. Because nothing's going

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to it. Everyone knows that the
military industrial complex, and

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the intelligence agencies and
they need us the platform,

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Adam Curry: they need Twitter,
they knew they need that and

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they need

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John C Dvorak: Twitter and it's
not going to get killed. But

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it's like it's a it's kind of a
roundabout threat to the, to

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Disney and others that hey, if
you kill the company, somebody's

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gonna kill you. Yeah, I think
that's a good analysis. Yeah. An

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offhanded way, ya know,

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Adam Curry: so then he goes on.

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Unknown: But there are those
advertisers, I imagine are gonna

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say, they're gonna say we didn't
kill the company to Earth. To

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say that they're gonna say,

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Adam Curry: I love the grandiose
tele to Earth, man, I'm going to

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use that. Hey, macho Earth, the
kids you use that? You took the

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cookies from the cookie jar? Oh,
yeah. Tell it to Earth

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Unknown: on that you kill the
company because you said these

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things. And they were
inappropriate things. And they

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didn't feel comfortable on the
platform. Right.

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And let's see how both responds
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Okay, this goes back to I love

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Adam Curry: Andrew Ross Sorkin,
who's taking this all seriously?

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John C Dvorak: Zero sense of
humor hero, New York Times guy?

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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. All right.

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Unknown: Okay, this, this goes
back

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to a bit, we'll both make our
cases. And we'll see what the

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outcome is. What

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are the economics of that for
you, you have enormous

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resources. So you can actually
keep this company going for a

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very long time, would you keep
it going for a long time, if

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there was no advertising

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company fails, because of
advertiser boycott, it will fail

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because of an advertiser
boycott. And that will be what

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bankrupted the company. And
that's what everybody will know.

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What do you think then? Trust
them, then I'll be gone.

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And it'll be gone because of an
advertiser boycott.

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But you recognize that? Wow,

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Adam Curry: I think you're
right. He is really signaling

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like, Oh, really, really? You
guys want to kill this valuable

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asset valuable to my true
customers, the military

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industrial complex, and the US
government really? Really, you

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know, watch you guys get a
little call from the White

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House. I think that's what do
you say? I think you're right

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about that.

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Unknown: But you recognize that
some of those people are gonna

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say that they didn't feel
comfortable on the platform. And

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I wonder I just wonder and ask
you and since Think about that,

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for $1 to the judge, the judge
is going to be judges, the

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public, the

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Adam Curry: judges the public as
beautiful. This is hilarious. So

450
00:25:13,020 --> 00:25:17,490
then I'm going to, then I'm
gonna have to play these other

451
00:25:17,490 --> 00:25:19,860
two clips before I can get to
the best part, which is Andrew

452
00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:24,960
Ross Sorkin doing an analysis
later of Elon. So now it gets

453
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,520
into AI, which of course, you
might as well put that in there.

454
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,600
And Eli, go, Elon goes off the
rails with this is great. One of

455
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,270
Unknown: the things about
training on data has been this

456
00:25:36,270 --> 00:25:38,760
idea that you're not going to
train or these things are not

457
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,460
being trained on people's
copyrighted information.

458
00:25:41,940 --> 00:25:44,070
Historically, that's been the
concept. Yeah, that's a huge

459
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:45,510
lie. Say that again?

460
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,290
Because these these airs are all
trained on copyrighted data,

461
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:49,830
obviously.

462
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,180
So you think it's a lie? When
when open AI says that this is

463
00:25:54,180 --> 00:25:58,020
not none of these guys get their
training on copyright? That's a

464
00:25:58,020 --> 00:25:58,950
lie. It's a lie.

465
00:25:59,550 --> 00:26:04,530
straight up lie. Okay.
Obviously, it's been trained on

466
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,940
proper data. Okay, so

467
00:26:09,870 --> 00:26:13,680
Adam Curry: he does, he does the
best evil guy laughs I've ever

468
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,880
heard. This is phenomenally
good. And Ross Sorkin doesn't

469
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,960
even say anything about it.

470
00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:22,200
Unknown: Obviously, it's been
trained on perforated data,

471
00:26:24,780 --> 00:26:26,340
which is old.

472
00:26:27,090 --> 00:26:29,100
And he keeps going, he's a cat.

473
00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:36,270
Which is all the people who have
been uploading, or whatever. And

474
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:40,530
all the people have been
uploading articles, the best

475
00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:47,310
quotes from different articles,
videos, to x, all of that can be

476
00:26:47,310 --> 00:26:51,180
trained on. And effectively now
you have this remarkable

477
00:26:51,210 --> 00:26:54,600
repository. And I wonder what
you how you think about that

478
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:58,290
again, and how you think the
creative community and those who

479
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were the original IP owners
should think about that.

480
00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:07,020
I don't know except to say that
the by the time these lawsuits

481
00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:08,490
have decided we'll have digital
God.

482
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,810
Adam Curry: So yeah, there you
go. We'll have digital God. Yes.

483
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,240
Unknown: Digital God at that
point, digital God,

484
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,890
John C Dvorak: you know, did
erupt here. Sure. There's an

485
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:22,950
there's an argument that can be
made when you have that thrown

486
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:26,730
at you that I'm surprised musk
and others haven't used as the

487
00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:31,800
following. Okay, so I'm a
writer. And I want to write my

488
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,690
first novel. So I read all of
Hemingway. I read every thing

489
00:27:36,690 --> 00:27:39,360
he's ever written every art news
article, I read all his novels

490
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,580
because I want to get that
style. I want to have Hemingway

491
00:27:41,580 --> 00:27:45,600
I want to have that kind of that
natty style. I want it. So I

492
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,530
read all this stuff. And then I
produce a novel what's the

493
00:27:49,530 --> 00:27:50,430
difference?

494
00:27:52,650 --> 00:27:55,440
Adam Curry: It doesn't matter
because by the time the lawsuits

495
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,500
are settled, there will be
digital, there'll be a digital

496
00:27:58,500 --> 00:27:59,610
god what's your problem?

497
00:27:59,820 --> 00:28:03,150
John C Dvorak: It just it just
seems to me that argument can be

498
00:28:03,150 --> 00:28:06,270
used against the argument that
oh, it's all these copyrights

499
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:09,870
Yes, everything in the world you
know you what if you just put

500
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:13,620
run it off as Shakespeare it's
not cabas public domain now,

501
00:28:13,710 --> 00:28:16,320
what if you just use public
domain once copyrighted

502
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,800
material? This is bullcrap. This
is not a good argument against

503
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,800
AI. The good argument it says
bullcrap it doesn't work very

504
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,940
well. That's the argument.

505
00:28:24,930 --> 00:28:28,080
Adam Curry: Well, I actually cut
out like a minute of Andrew Ross

506
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,400
Sorkin pining on about as a
creator, as a Creator.

507
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:36,030
John C Dvorak: The Creator beat
anyone steal his material?

508
00:28:36,150 --> 00:28:37,440
Because it's so dynamite.

509
00:28:38,460 --> 00:28:40,530
Unknown: To say that the by the
time these lawsuits have decided

510
00:28:40,530 --> 00:28:41,910
we'll have digital God. So

511
00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:44,820
John C Dvorak: digital God at
that point. Yeah, that's a

512
00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:46,260
flippant answer.

513
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,400
Adam Curry: No, it's very
flippant, and it's pretty wrong.

514
00:28:51,150 --> 00:28:51,360
These

515
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,270
Unknown: lawsuits won't be
decided before, on a timeframe

516
00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:54,900
that is relevant.

517
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,660
Adam Curry: Okay, not before
timeframe is relevant. And then

518
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,070
now, now Elon is going to wrap
it home because remember, he's

519
00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:05,520
the guy that started open AI and
was, you know, shouting the

520
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,020
loudest, the loudest about the
dangers of AI eating the world?

521
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:13,980
And you know, Sam Altman screwed
him over. And they turn to

522
00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:17,280
commercial and Elon has kept
saying no, no, no, no, no, no

523
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,250
regulation. We need regulation.
One of the smartest people in

524
00:29:20,250 --> 00:29:22,860
the world. No, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no. And he's

525
00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:23,640
changed his tune.

526
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,440
Unknown: Is that a good thing or
a bad thing?

527
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:31,740
I think we live you know,
there's that.

528
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:37,110
Adam Curry: I, you know, I gotta
practice. My ILA. You know,

529
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,260
John C Dvorak: I gotta get my
mash ups.

530
00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:44,040
Adam Curry: I'm sorry.

531
00:29:44,730 --> 00:29:46,290
John C Dvorak: I shouldn't get
it. I've got to get some of

532
00:29:46,290 --> 00:29:50,190
these Ilan moments so I can do
it. Another one of my mash ups

533
00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:52,500
who are it's just Elon never
saying anything.

534
00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:55,740
Adam Curry: He actually never
does say anything. It's just the

535
00:29:55,740 --> 00:30:00,810
complicated speak of Silicon
Valley geniuses. like Sam

536
00:30:00,810 --> 00:30:09,900
Backman freed me, Sam Altman
Elon Musk. Give me a break

537
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:11,970
people we live. You know,
there's

538
00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:14,430
Unknown: that. I don't know if
it's actually real Chinese

539
00:30:14,430 --> 00:30:17,700
anyone not, but maybe live in
interesting times, right?

540
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:25,650
There's apparently not a good
thing. But I would prefer to.

541
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:30,240
Adam Curry: And he's looking up
at the whole time it is digital

542
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,440
God, again, not a good thing.

543
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,570
Unknown: But I would prefer to
personally, I would prefer to

544
00:30:36,570 --> 00:30:40,920
live in interesting times. And
we live in the most interesting

545
00:30:41,220 --> 00:30:41,940
of times.

546
00:30:44,340 --> 00:30:45,900
Adam Curry: Yeah, you're
breaking copyright.

547
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,290
Unknown: For a while, I was like
really getting demotivated and

548
00:30:49,290 --> 00:30:54,240
losing sleep over sort of the
threat of AI danger. Finally

549
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,170
sort of became fatalistic about
it and said, Well, okay, even if

550
00:30:58,170 --> 00:31:04,650
I knew it was annihilation was
certain. Would I choose to be

551
00:31:04,650 --> 00:31:09,330
alive at that time or not? And I
probably would choose to be

552
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,050
alive at that time, because it's
the most interesting thing, even

553
00:31:13,050 --> 00:31:14,070
if there's nothing I can do
about it.

554
00:31:14,670 --> 00:31:17,610
Adam Curry: So let's just get
district. So he went, he went

555
00:31:17,610 --> 00:31:21,510
from warning everybody helping
get an executive order, which is

556
00:31:21,510 --> 00:31:25,770
not law. But there's laws being
written all over the world, to

557
00:31:25,770 --> 00:31:30,870
make sure that only the biggest
incumbents can be the true. The

558
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:33,330
true gods of AI, which really
means

559
00:31:33,330 --> 00:31:36,600
John C Dvorak: much money to be
made for just any old schlep,

560
00:31:37,050 --> 00:31:38,760
which go out there and do well,

561
00:31:38,790 --> 00:31:42,030
Adam Curry: which really means
only Google and Amazon and

562
00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:45,720
Google and big companies will be
allowed to create your LLM 's

563
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,690
your your data models and their
cells. They're all selling

564
00:31:48,690 --> 00:31:51,450
horsepower. That's all they're
doing. They're all selling

565
00:31:51,630 --> 00:31:54,120
John C Dvorak: microscopes,
yours compute cycles.

566
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,170
Adam Curry: So all of that's now
over. And now I've given in I

567
00:31:58,170 --> 00:32:01,740
was losing sleep, and I figured,
you know what, screw the world.

568
00:32:01,770 --> 00:32:02,220
So then,

569
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,260
Unknown: basically, a sort of a
fatalistic resignation helped me

570
00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:09,180
sleep at night because I was
having trouble sleeping at night

571
00:32:09,180 --> 00:32:10,770
because of AI danger. Okay,

572
00:32:10,770 --> 00:32:14,100
Adam Curry: so Elon has decided
that the world can go to hell in

573
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:15,990
a handbasket, so that he can
sleep at night.

574
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,630
John C Dvorak: By the way, the
whole day he's full. This is a

575
00:32:21,630 --> 00:32:26,010
lie. Of course. No way. He
wasn't sleeping well at night.

576
00:32:27,330 --> 00:32:31,170
Adam Curry: Really? No, wait
until we get to the analysis. 50

577
00:32:31,170 --> 00:32:32,820
more seconds on this one helped

578
00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:34,320
Unknown: me sleep at night
because I was having trouble

579
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,910
sleeping at night because of AI
danger. Oh, show what to do

580
00:32:38,910 --> 00:32:43,830
about it. I mean, I've been the
biggest one banging the drum the

581
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:49,800
hardest, by far the longest. Or
the one of longest on for AI

582
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:55,350
danger. And these regulatory
things that are happening 80s

583
00:32:55,410 --> 00:32:57,390
Adam Curry: No, wait, wait,
let's listen to this last bit.

584
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:58,230
I'm sorry.

585
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,970
Unknown: And these regulatory
things that are happening? The

586
00:33:02,970 --> 00:33:06,000
single biggest reason that
happening is because of me. Ah,

587
00:33:06,210 --> 00:33:10,170
Adam Curry: it all because of
me. I put it all in place. I

588
00:33:10,170 --> 00:33:14,040
believe that because those
numbnuts in Washington, DC like

589
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,360
Oh, Elon says, AI danger. Yeah,
danger. We got to make him sleep

590
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,930
well at night. Let's put some
executive orders in place. So

591
00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:26,100
then Andrew Ross Sorkin, the
most boring guy in the world

592
00:33:26,460 --> 00:33:32,250
goes on NBC Today show to talk
about his extraordinary because

593
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:37,800
Elon Musk used the F word. And
oh, yes. We had to bleep it out.

594
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,580
It's so bad for children. But
you know, Andrew Ross Sorkin I

595
00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:45,240
mean, keep that this is you are
now news journalist is the news.

596
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,390
Let's bring in the man of the
hour see and lead that

597
00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:50,160
conversation. The man of

598
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,320
John C Dvorak: the hour here was
talking to journalists.

599
00:33:53,340 --> 00:33:55,530
Unknown: The man of the hour at
the New York Times steelbook

600
00:33:55,530 --> 00:33:59,040
Summit. Hello, Andrew. So I
mean, what did you make of that

601
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,500
you've covered Elon Musk a long
time. Here he is in the middle

602
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:05,130
of this fire. Advertisers
fleeing his company X formerly

603
00:34:05,130 --> 00:34:08,220
known as Twitter. Thanks for
reminding us. And then he has

604
00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:09,840
some he does not mince words.

605
00:34:12,060 --> 00:34:14,310
It was fascinating. I was
speechless when he made those

606
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:17,040
remarks weren't gone viral. I do
encourage people to see the

607
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,710
whole thing because in many
ways, I think you got to see the

608
00:34:19,710 --> 00:34:23,430
full Elon Musk, I think you saw
that Elon Musk is many people.

609
00:34:23,820 --> 00:34:26,970
You can see the design and sort
of Steve Jobs version of Elon

610
00:34:26,970 --> 00:34:30,840
Musk, you can see almost a
demonic version of Elon Musk.

611
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,950
And the idea is the question is
Can people hold all of these

612
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:37,560
ideas in their head? And can
they be in the same person? What

613
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,740
was so interesting to me was he
kept saying, I don't care if I

614
00:34:40,770 --> 00:34:44,610
am loved, or I'm hated. But what
I kept trying to get back to was

615
00:34:44,610 --> 00:34:45,420
he didn't say

616
00:34:45,420 --> 00:34:48,570
Adam Curry: that. He didn't say
that at all. I watched the whole

617
00:34:48,570 --> 00:34:51,150
thing. He didn't say that. He
said, I don't care if you

618
00:34:51,150 --> 00:34:52,590
advertise but okay, what I

619
00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:55,320
Unknown: kept trying to get back
to was, do you care about being

620
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,280
trusted? Because ultimately, the
advertisers need to trust you.

621
00:34:59,460 --> 00:35:01,860
The folks who Gotta get in your
vehicles need to trust you,

622
00:35:02,130 --> 00:35:05,310
government that's paying for
SpaceX putting these rockets

623
00:35:05,370 --> 00:35:08,940
need to trust you. And we we
were trying to grapple with

624
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,740
that. And he was trying to
grapple with that. He

625
00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:13,470
Adam Curry: was trying to
grapple with that, that didn't

626
00:35:13,470 --> 00:35:14,100
hear that in

627
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,530
John C Dvorak: any of the clips
you played and or what I heard

628
00:35:16,530 --> 00:35:18,810
when I listened to parts of it,
but it's

629
00:35:18,810 --> 00:35:21,750
Adam Curry: also you would say
he was graphic in this, you

630
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:24,570
would say he was grappling with
that not he was trying to

631
00:35:24,570 --> 00:35:25,620
grapple with it.

632
00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:28,800
John C Dvorak: That's that's
what he was trying to do.

633
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:31,140
Adam Curry: Yeah, let's twice he
said it twice.

634
00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:33,990
John C Dvorak: Let's face trying
to grapple next

635
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:38,160
Unknown: putting these rockets
need to trust you. And we were

636
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,170
trying to grapple with that. And
he was trying to grapple with

637
00:35:40,170 --> 00:35:40,440
that.

638
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:44,220
Adam Curry: Trying to grapple
with that. What does the word

639
00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:47,700
grapple even mean? Grapple.

640
00:35:48,750 --> 00:35:55,290
John C Dvorak: grellus. Look it
up this reframe. Is the question

641
00:35:55,290 --> 00:35:58,200
on our minds. Yes. Why was he
trying to grapple? Or was he

642
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,340
grappling? Well,

643
00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:01,710
Adam Curry: if he was trying to
grapple he was trying to grip or

644
00:36:01,710 --> 00:36:06,330
sees as in a wrestling match. Or
he was using a tool consisting

645
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,060
of several hooks for grasping
and holding, often thrown with a

646
00:36:09,060 --> 00:36:12,900
rope, I think was either one of
those. So let's continue with

647
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:16,230
the next a genius analysis from
Andrew Ross Sorkin, where you

648
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:19,530
talked about demonic the demonic
Sagemont act about his

649
00:36:20,970 --> 00:36:23,070
John C Dvorak: demonic demonic.

650
00:36:23,220 --> 00:36:24,810
Adam Curry: What happened to the
digital God,

651
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,460
Unknown: we talked about demonic

652
00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:27,420
the demonic side, he

653
00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:29,250
talked about his own demons
like,

654
00:36:29,310 --> 00:36:31,320
what did you glean about that
part

655
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:31,770
of him?

656
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,730
Adam Curry: Oh, get ready. He
talked about his demons. Look, I

657
00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:40,500
Unknown: think a lot of what
drives him in very good ways and

658
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:44,100
bad ways is a childhood. I mean,
there was a moment where he was

659
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:46,470
almost crying during this
interview where you can really

660
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:53,010
see the demons that power a lot
of this and it was it sad. There

661
00:36:53,010 --> 00:36:55,440
is a there is a depression under
it. Oh,

662
00:36:55,620 --> 00:36:56,550
John C Dvorak: okay. I don't
want to

663
00:36:56,910 --> 00:36:58,260
Adam Curry: analyze him. Yes.

664
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,960
John C Dvorak: I don't want I
was a psychoanalyst. And now,

665
00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:01,440
yes,

666
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,040
Unknown: he is.

667
00:37:02,070 --> 00:37:05,400
I don't want to I don't want to
say too much about and I can't

668
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,670
diagnose it myself. There is
something that is driving him. I

669
00:37:08,670 --> 00:37:11,190
think it's in many ways it's
productive. And in other ways.

670
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:13,020
It's it's less productive,
called

671
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:15,210
Adam Curry: well done, Andrew.
Oh, that was riveting. That

672
00:37:15,210 --> 00:37:18,660
analysis, right. He was almost
crying on my bench. I'm Andrew

673
00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:19,470
Ross Sorkin.

674
00:37:19,530 --> 00:37:21,090
Unknown: I mean, you know, we're
talking about the world's

675
00:37:21,090 --> 00:37:24,570
richest man 20 to $25 billion
dollars and his contributions to

676
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,500
modern society are undeniable in
so many ways. To your point,

677
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:30,630
you've covered them for a long
time. How do you think it plays

678
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:33,900
out? I mean, how does this?
Where does this go for it from

679
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:37,350
here for Elon Musk? I mean, does
he take X does it get sold as

680
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,610
well? How do you know

681
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,420
he likes to say he doesn't care?
He was ready to he cares. He

682
00:37:42,420 --> 00:37:45,390
cares a lot. You can see it you
can physically see how much he

683
00:37:45,390 --> 00:37:46,710
cares. So he says he

684
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:49,440
Adam Curry: doesn't care. But if
he does care, I can see it. I'm

685
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,490
Andrew Ross Sorkin.

686
00:37:50,610 --> 00:37:51,660
Unknown: I think look,

687
00:37:52,350 --> 00:37:56,820
John C Dvorak: I think you're
saying look, wait, I think I

688
00:37:56,820 --> 00:37:57,300
think look,

689
00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,220
Adam Curry: this is good. I
think look, is that a show

690
00:37:59,220 --> 00:38:01,650
title? I think look, I think
look,

691
00:38:02,730 --> 00:38:05,280
John C Dvorak: what I think mate
might be

692
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:08,100
Unknown: cares. He cares a lot.
You can see it, you can

693
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:12,420
physically see how much he
cares. So I think look, I think

694
00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:15,630
you're gonna see great and
amazing things happen along the

695
00:38:15,630 --> 00:38:16,050
way.

696
00:38:16,410 --> 00:38:19,590
Adam Curry: Well, hold on a
second, the future telehealth,

697
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:22,890
Andrew Ross, I'm from the
future. I'm Andrew Ross Sorkin

698
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:26,730
great things are coming. I tell
you just pay attention to me,

699
00:38:26,730 --> 00:38:27,990
Andrew Ross Sorkin

700
00:38:28,020 --> 00:38:30,420
Unknown: I think you're gonna
see great and amazing things

701
00:38:30,420 --> 00:38:33,660
happen along the way. And I also
imagine you're going to see

702
00:38:33,690 --> 00:38:36,360
other things like and maybe x
will ultimately fail. I don't

703
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,570
know. But I think he's going to
try his hard to get this thing.

704
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,200
In a way. It's the

705
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,140
worst of it. I mean, he has
recent, you know, I mean, x, it

706
00:38:43,140 --> 00:38:45,690
either succeeds it doesn't
succeed, you're talking about

707
00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:48,900
somebody who has an enormous
influence in global affairs,

708
00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:52,050
including things such as the war
in Ukraine, because it's his

709
00:38:52,050 --> 00:38:55,140
satellite system, you can turn
on or turn off. And that's

710
00:38:56,460 --> 00:39:00,300
Adam Curry: that rubric. This
was my favorite. They keep doing

711
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:03,840
that even though he sold that
into you know, what is it the

712
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,010
military version, which stays on
wherever the US military wants

713
00:39:08,010 --> 00:39:09,990
it on, please are able to fight

714
00:39:10,020 --> 00:39:12,210
Unknown: I'm talking but we
talked about that the power that

715
00:39:12,210 --> 00:39:15,240
he has the leverage that he has
ever it's interesting, because

716
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,900
he he has all that leverage in
these physical systems that he

717
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:23,160
owns, but he doesn't have that
leverage in, in Twitter in Acts

718
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,770
it's a different it's a
different business. But the

719
00:39:25,770 --> 00:39:27,570
other thing I was just gonna say
that was so interesting to me

720
00:39:27,570 --> 00:39:31,080
about it was was human. You
know, there's this little that

721
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,440
page in US magazine says they're
just like us, no matter how much

722
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,140
money you have, what your
business title on your business

723
00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:41,040
card. There are these feelings
that people have and they're

724
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,190
complicated, and I think being
able to see that we often don't

725
00:39:44,190 --> 00:39:46,290
have that opportunity so
fascinating.

726
00:39:46,830 --> 00:39:50,640
Adam Curry: So I'm the best this
you want to see feelings. Watch

727
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:57,540
me I'm Andrew Ross Sorkin what a
douchebag. Yeah, no, but it was

728
00:39:57,570 --> 00:40:01,860
very entertaining. Just I mean,
that's the best kind of

729
00:40:01,860 --> 00:40:04,470
entertainment is when the people
on stage don't realize how

730
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:08,640
entertaining they are. And this
whole Starlink thing that seems

731
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,210
that probably have been the main
reason for Elon to go into

732
00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:14,280
Israel for another sale.

733
00:40:14,310 --> 00:40:17,790
Unknown: Now, Elon Musk also
control Starlink, which is an

734
00:40:17,790 --> 00:40:21,420
internet satellite service,
which makes him a key player in

735
00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:25,470
any conflict on this earth. He
wanted to provide the service to

736
00:40:25,470 --> 00:40:28,950
aid organizations in Gaza. The
Israeli government wasn't happy

737
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:32,610
saying that Hamas would use it
for terrorist activities today

738
00:40:32,610 --> 00:40:35,490
and Israeli Government Minister
posted that they had reached an

739
00:40:35,490 --> 00:40:39,360
understanding that Starlink
would only be used in Israel and

740
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,630
Gaza with the approval of the
Israeli government. We have not

741
00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:43,650
yet confirmed that

742
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,170
Adam Curry: there you go sales
call.

743
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:50,250
John C Dvorak: Yes, what was
your sales call? Call?

744
00:40:50,250 --> 00:40:53,370
Adam Curry: Hello, ma'am. Hey,
you know, these my I have a

745
00:40:53,370 --> 00:40:57,030
customer over here in Gaza. And
they get a lot of money in

746
00:40:57,030 --> 00:41:01,470
Qatar. So you want a defense
link? What is it? Isn't it

747
00:41:01,470 --> 00:41:06,240
called defense link? What is it
called? Star link military

748
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:13,320
version? It's something else on
defense link. It's Star Shield.

749
00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:15,330
John C Dvorak: Star Shield,

750
00:41:15,870 --> 00:41:21,330
Adam Curry: Star Shield. That's
what it's called. Star Shield.

751
00:41:21,690 --> 00:41:22,740
It's a sales gonna

752
00:41:22,740 --> 00:41:25,530
John C Dvorak: go in there on an
apology tour is going to he

753
00:41:25,530 --> 00:41:30,420
would go on a sales call.
Exactly. Right. It's a kind of a

754
00:41:30,420 --> 00:41:33,270
shaggy dog story you told but
you're welcome. You're welcome.

755
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:37,830
Essentially what you did there.
Well done. Oh, thank you. Thank

756
00:41:37,830 --> 00:41:41,430
you for talking about the Jews,
Israelis. The rest of us did at

757
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:44,520
least get a couple of my clips
out of the way. I didn't do too

758
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:50,520
much about that. I do have the
update for the the hostage

759
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,030
thing. Whatever the hell's going
on, it might be worth playing.

760
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,610
But first let's play Chuck
Schumer. Oh, Chucky,

761
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,930
Adam Curry: Chucky, what is
Chuck? He's

762
00:41:57,930 --> 00:41:59,730
John C Dvorak: talking about uh,
you know, he's concerned about,

763
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,280
you know, all the Jew hate
that's going on in the United

764
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,480
States because of the
Palestinian problem. Protesters

765
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,100
which are organized by some
radicals of various sorts, left

766
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:15,090
and right. It's a problem. And
now, which is again in

767
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,830
previously I would say Chuck
Schumer would be responsible for

768
00:42:19,830 --> 00:42:23,400
the encouragement of these
folks. But now that they've

769
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,050
turned out to be Jew haters.

770
00:42:26,010 --> 00:42:27,120
Adam Curry: This is no good

771
00:42:27,150 --> 00:42:30,180
Unknown: a five alarm fire that
must be extinguished. A Senate

772
00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:32,790
Majority Leader Chuck Schumer
warning the nation of a

773
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:37,620
dangerous rise in anti semitism.
Lawmakers are now investigating

774
00:42:37,620 --> 00:42:41,310
possible anti semitism at
America's top universities.

775
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:44,040
Adam Curry: I love her they keep
going after the universities

776
00:42:44,190 --> 00:42:48,330
it's your Black Lives Matter
crew bro. It's who you activated

777
00:42:48,330 --> 00:42:50,070
during Trump that's who it is

778
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:52,500
Unknown: entities Aryan past arm
has the story.

779
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,250
I feel compelled to speak
because I'm the highest ranking

780
00:42:56,250 --> 00:42:58,320
Jewish elected official in
America.

781
00:42:58,830 --> 00:43:02,280
King of the Jews, Senate
Majority Leader Chuck Schumer on

782
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,610
Wednesday addressing the rise in
anti semitism in the US. I

783
00:43:05,610 --> 00:43:06,000
couldn't

784
00:43:06,030 --> 00:43:09,990
Adam Curry: resist I'm sorry.
That nobody said it's literally

785
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:12,000
what he's not literally but
that's what he's saying.

786
00:43:12,330 --> 00:43:15,420
Unknown: In the two weeks after
the attacks by Hamas, the anti

787
00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:19,470
Defamation League reports and
almost 400% increase in anti

788
00:43:19,470 --> 00:43:23,250
semitic incidents over the same
period last year. Schumer says

789
00:43:23,250 --> 00:43:26,670
he sees a stark contrast in the
ways Jewish and non Jewish

790
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:29,970
people react to that increase to
us.

791
00:43:31,020 --> 00:43:36,360
The Jewish people, the rise of
anti semitism is a crisis. A

792
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:41,130
five alarm fire no, that must be
extinguished

793
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,540
Adam Curry: five alarm

794
00:43:42,540 --> 00:43:45,570
Unknown: or he says that's
because many American Jews have

795
00:43:45,570 --> 00:43:48,870
family members who suffered
persecution firsthand. And

796
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:52,020
they're now worried that history
is repeating itself. The

797
00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:55,920
majority leader also said anti
Israel protesters often argue

798
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,970
that Israel displaced 700,000
Palestinians. But he said those

799
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:03,750
same people never talk about the
600,000 Jews who are displaced

800
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:07,260
from Arab countries. Schumer
concluded with three appeals to

801
00:44:07,260 --> 00:44:10,470
the American people learn the
history of the Jewish people

802
00:44:10,590 --> 00:44:14,370
reject anti semitic double
standards, and understand why

803
00:44:14,370 --> 00:44:18,030
Jews defend Israel. At the same
time lawmakers in the house are

804
00:44:18,030 --> 00:44:21,120
investigating Harvard, the MIT
and the University of

805
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,810
Pennsylvania. Wow, that's over
allegations of anti semitism on

806
00:44:24,810 --> 00:44:28,260
their campuses. Because of that
the presidents of those three

807
00:44:28,260 --> 00:44:30,990
schools will testify before a
House committee on a

808
00:44:30,990 --> 00:44:32,670
congressional hearing next week.
Oh,

809
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:33,930
goody, goody,

810
00:44:34,050 --> 00:44:37,350
Adam Curry: yeah, we get Jew
hate in Congress. This is gonna

811
00:44:37,350 --> 00:44:42,540
be fun. It's gonna be great. So
Harvard and MIT now to the Oh

812
00:44:42,540 --> 00:44:46,020
man, this is this. Oh, wow. Oh,
this is

813
00:44:46,530 --> 00:44:48,720
John C Dvorak: going to have
this clip. And I got one more

814
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:50,940
which is the University of
California they're going.

815
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:54,480
Unknown: At the same time the
Department of Education is

816
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,840
opening an investigation into
Harvard. That's to find out

817
00:44:57,870 --> 00:45:00,540
whether Harvard failed to
respond to a letter harassment

818
00:45:00,540 --> 00:45:03,870
of students based on their
national origin. However, the

819
00:45:03,870 --> 00:45:07,230
office made clear that it has so
far found no evidence of

820
00:45:07,230 --> 00:45:07,950
wrongdoing.

821
00:45:08,130 --> 00:45:11,580
Adam Curry: Yeah. And remember,
the Department of Education is

822
00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:15,420
also a human rights division of
the government. Yeah, they're

823
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:17,730
John C Dvorak: quite hilarious.
I don't know what these schools

824
00:45:17,730 --> 00:45:20,910
are going to do because they
were the ones. They're the ones

825
00:45:20,910 --> 00:45:24,960
who created the situation at the
behest of the Democrat party.

826
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,170
Yes. Let's be honest about it.
And the whole thing is now

827
00:45:28,170 --> 00:45:29,490
backfired on him.

828
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:34,950
Adam Curry: It's, it's like it
is. It's Biblical. It's so good.

829
00:45:35,490 --> 00:45:38,550
John C Dvorak: It's hilarious
because UC Berkeley sued This is

830
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:41,820
the said the end of the day,
there was a lead into this, but

831
00:45:41,820 --> 00:45:43,170
let's go right into the clip.

832
00:45:43,290 --> 00:45:46,680
Unknown: UC Berkeley and the UC
system are accused of letting

833
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,210
anti semitism go unchecked on
Jewish advocacy organizations

834
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:54,570
allege that student groups
prohibit speakers who support a

835
00:45:54,570 --> 00:45:58,710
Jewish state, and TDs David Lam
speaks with the attorney who's

836
00:45:58,740 --> 00:46:00,840
suing the university Ken mark

837
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,930
is chairman of the Louis D.
Brandeis center and former

838
00:46:03,930 --> 00:46:07,560
assistant secretary of education
for civil rights. Thank you for

839
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,280
joining us. Your nonprofit
organization is suing UC

840
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,730
Berkeley and the UC system,
claiming that it has long

841
00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:18,840
standing unchecked anti semitism
on campus. So how did this

842
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,290
start?

843
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,960
We take no pleasure in bringing
the lawsuit, we would prefer

844
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,990
that they simply comply with
their legal requirements. This

845
00:46:24,990 --> 00:46:29,100
lawsuit is about the failure of
the University of California to

846
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:32,970
address anti semitism on its
campus, certainly over the last

847
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,200
a year and a half. Hold

848
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,680
Adam Curry: on a second, I need
to ask a question. This being

849
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,160
the United States of America,
where we have a First Amendment

850
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:47,730
is anti semitism is that illegal
in America? anti semitic speech.

851
00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:56,220
John C Dvorak: Don't s insofar
as speech is concerned that it

852
00:46:56,220 --> 00:47:00,300
may not be illegal that based on
the First Amendment, but that's

853
00:47:00,420 --> 00:47:03,780
but these schools are signed on
to certain provisions, you know,

854
00:47:03,780 --> 00:47:08,820
certain standards that they have
to follow. And one of them is

855
00:47:08,940 --> 00:47:10,710
don't be, you know,

856
00:47:11,850 --> 00:47:14,580
Adam Curry: not bigoted not be
against Joe. I'm

857
00:47:16,290 --> 00:47:19,020
John C Dvorak: not be bigoted,
but but the thing that Cal

858
00:47:19,050 --> 00:47:22,710
they've keep isolating in these
statements is that there's some

859
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,070
there's a Zionist one or two
Zionist organizations on the

860
00:47:26,070 --> 00:47:28,830
campus, you know, when they have
meetings and give speeches, they

861
00:47:28,830 --> 00:47:31,560
will lead them. And so that is
like,

862
00:47:32,730 --> 00:47:35,100
Adam Curry: that's exclusionary,
and that and that seclusion

863
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:39,030
there. And that goes, okay. All
right, that I got you. Okay. But

864
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:46,290
as just a small aside, when it
was Milo, when it was Ben

865
00:47:46,290 --> 00:47:50,490
Shapiro, or whoever wanted to go
speak at a at a university

866
00:47:50,490 --> 00:47:53,490
campus, and they were forbidden
to do that. We didn't hear

867
00:47:53,490 --> 00:47:56,160
John C Dvorak: this part of
this. By the way, I think this

868
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,520
guy when he says, a long
standing history, I think that

869
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,910
will be included. Oh,
interesting, because the miles

870
00:48:02,910 --> 00:48:06,390
and Shapiro thing, and I think
there was a couple other people,

871
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:13,050
Coulter, Coulter. There too, and
they were shattered, rounded off

872
00:48:13,050 --> 00:48:17,430
the campus and to burn down part
of the ASU C building. And in

873
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:20,430
the process, I think it's mostly
the outsiders, but it's beside

874
00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:23,100
the point. They have this issue,
and they have to solve it. And

875
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:24,810
so they're getting sued. Hey,

876
00:48:24,810 --> 00:48:27,630
Unknown: yeah, certainly over
the last a year and a half,

877
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:31,950
starting with the decision by
nine, nine student organizations

878
00:48:31,950 --> 00:48:36,810
to exclude Zinus from speaking
on any topic whatsoever before

879
00:48:36,810 --> 00:48:38,160
their organization.

880
00:48:39,180 --> 00:48:41,850
And I understand that you
receive many complaints from

881
00:48:41,850 --> 00:48:44,370
students. So what are the
students saying,

882
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:47,400
we're hearing from students
around the country Jewish

883
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,840
students are afraid now because
they are feeling such an immense

884
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,650
amount of hate since the Hamas
atrocities of October 7. Now

885
00:48:55,650 --> 00:48:59,970
think about that. In the wake of
these atrocities in which Jewish

886
00:48:59,970 --> 00:49:05,190
Israelis were tortured, burned
alive, in some cases rate

887
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:11,760
murdered their court, in the
wake of that, a groundswell of

888
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,170
support for their perpetrators.
The Berkeley situation is in one

889
00:49:16,170 --> 00:49:19,890
sense, typical or representative
of what we're hearing all around

890
00:49:19,890 --> 00:49:23,700
the country, but it is also one
of the worst. One

891
00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:24,900
John C Dvorak: of the worst
we're number

892
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:30,840
Adam Curry: one finger number
one baby this kind of reminds me

893
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:35,610
this this whole first amendment
bit went with a friend of mine

894
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,310
went to visit the Pacific War
Museum. He's been here for eight

895
00:49:38,310 --> 00:49:40,590
years has never been I said,
that's an outrage. You gotta go

896
00:49:40,590 --> 00:49:43,260
it's a great museum, because
Admiral Nimitz is from

897
00:49:43,260 --> 00:49:47,880
Fredericksburg, Texas, and they
have a great I mean, it's a very

898
00:49:48,090 --> 00:49:52,110
detailed Nimitz was some
Frederick's Yeah, he's a famous

899
00:49:52,110 --> 00:49:55,470
son. He's the famous son of
Fredericksburg. Wow. So they

900
00:49:55,470 --> 00:49:58,530
have the Nimitz Museum, the
Pacific War Museum. And you

901
00:49:58,530 --> 00:50:02,700
know, my grandfather Renwick
Eugene Curry was Lieutenant

902
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:06,450
Commander and bass commander at
Quadra Alene in the Marshall

903
00:50:06,450 --> 00:50:10,590
Islands. So it was it was and
they have a whole martial line.

904
00:50:10,590 --> 00:50:12,930
This isn't so much we don't do
when you think about World War

905
00:50:12,930 --> 00:50:16,560
Two I think is Hitler Jews,
Hiroshima, boom, that's it.

906
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:19,950
There was a lot more going on
and a lot more and something

907
00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:24,450
that really and they did a good
job of this at the exhibit is

908
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,170
there was a term that I think it
was President Roosevelt is that

909
00:50:28,170 --> 00:50:33,270
right thing was Roosevelt. And
it was loose lips sink ships.

910
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:37,110
John C Dvorak: Yeah, loose lips
sink ships is a lot of posters

911
00:50:37,110 --> 00:50:39,270
you can get that have that
saying, well,

912
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:43,230
Adam Curry: there were
restrictions on speech. At that

913
00:50:43,230 --> 00:50:47,790
time, you were there were
absolute restrictions placed by

914
00:50:47,790 --> 00:50:50,910
the government on speech and
it's just, it kind of hit me

915
00:50:50,910 --> 00:50:55,500
like how easy we are, you know,
especially when you see Rosie

916
00:50:55,500 --> 00:51:00,930
the Riveter man, all this whole
this incredible nationalistic,

917
00:51:01,530 --> 00:51:08,070
Patriot patriotic propaganda,
how people how easily people

918
00:51:08,070 --> 00:51:12,480
give up their right to free
speech. The ends this is it's

919
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,440
bound to happen over and over
and over again. And also, I have

920
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,710
to say, what a senseless bunch
of crap that whole thing was

921
00:51:19,830 --> 00:51:23,340
young men killing each other in
the water and in the air. Oh, my

922
00:51:23,340 --> 00:51:27,120
God, the whole thing just did
you. I mean, this bombing of

923
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,740
Tokyo. No one ever told you
about that crap out of hundreds

924
00:51:31,740 --> 00:51:35,700
of 1000s of civilians died.
Yeah, they just kept bombing for

925
00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:37,020
months, anyway.

926
00:51:37,050 --> 00:51:39,810
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And the
thought was, of course, we as a

927
00:51:39,810 --> 00:51:43,740
few incendiary bombs are good
because Tokyo is built on the

928
00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:48,210
housing in Tokyo was you know,
still is rubber race, rice,

929
00:51:48,210 --> 00:51:51,780
paper, rice, paper and light
wood. Yeah.

930
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,050
Adam Curry: That that museum
will give you a little different

931
00:51:55,050 --> 00:51:59,550
sense of what went on there.
Anyway, my point being, that we

932
00:51:59,550 --> 00:52:04,590
as Americans are so susceptible
to agreeing to restrictions by

933
00:52:04,590 --> 00:52:10,020
the government on our speech,
which is just illegal and wrong.

934
00:52:10,050 --> 00:52:13,410
And that's not what we're built
on. You have the right to talk

935
00:52:13,410 --> 00:52:17,670
like a Nazi in America has fine.
You know, that's, you got that?

936
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:21,720
Right. If that's what you want.
The ACLU used to defend that,

937
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:25,470
that's all over now. It hosts
Taser over and it's really the

938
00:52:25,470 --> 00:52:27,540
best way because then you can
just stand there and laugh at

939
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:33,690
them. That's great. But no. I
have a was, I don't think I have

940
00:52:33,690 --> 00:52:37,440
anything else other than it's
just all bad for Joe. And so

941
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,650
we're distracting. We've got a
lot of you know, we're changing

942
00:52:40,890 --> 00:52:44,310
the narrative to Oh, no, no,
these days, all the students,

943
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,990
that it's not just students,
it's this Antifa there's all

944
00:52:48,990 --> 00:52:52,860
kinds of rainbow people in
there. And they're all just

945
00:52:52,860 --> 00:52:55,680
against whatever they're
supposed to be against. Not a

946
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,700
single word about the 100,000
who die of opioids. Not nothing

947
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:03,060
about the Uyghurs nothing about
anything that's happening in

948
00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:05,250
Africa. How about the fact

949
00:53:05,250 --> 00:53:06,990
John C Dvorak: that you have one
Africa clip where you can play

950
00:53:06,990 --> 00:53:09,360
Why is anyone saying anything
about this? This isn't even

951
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,710
being played because it's not

952
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:12,240
Adam Curry: the new new thing.
The UN

953
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:15,720
Unknown: says 450,000 people
have been displaced in eastern

954
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:19,800
Democratic Republic in the last
six weeks, is blaming recent

955
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,130
violence between armed groups
and government forces in North

956
00:53:23,130 --> 00:53:27,120
Kivu province. The UN Refugee
Agency says is monitoring the

957
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,080
situation after 3000 human
rights violations were reported

958
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,200
last month. That's nearly double
the figure from September

959
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:35,610
Adam Curry: no one cares.

960
00:53:36,930 --> 00:53:37,950
John C Dvorak: Where's yours?

961
00:53:38,190 --> 00:53:40,260
Adam Curry: They're not the same
level. Even

962
00:53:40,260 --> 00:53:44,160
John C Dvorak: our producers
listeners don't don't care about

963
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:44,760
Africa.

964
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,870
Adam Curry: It's they tune out
on another Africa made

965
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:51,180
John C Dvorak: that clip as
short as I could. Good

966
00:53:51,180 --> 00:53:54,900
Adam Curry: work. Everyone's
still here. Okay. Oh, we can't

967
00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:59,880
talk about Africa. That will be
no good. Now, that came across a

968
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:04,410
26 minute video of the homeless
in Austin. It's heartbreaking.

969
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,520
It's just heartbreaking.
Downtown right near the hotels.

970
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:15,060
Everyone's part living it up.
And there's just 1000s of

971
00:54:15,060 --> 00:54:18,150
homeless people. And just like
San Francisco, I'll just step

972
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:20,400
over them. Don't worry. We're
with Google. We

973
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,660
John C Dvorak: were we moved
ours.

974
00:54:21,780 --> 00:54:23,460
Adam Curry: Now. You guys did a
good job.

975
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,980
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we moved
them to LA where they belong.

976
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,410
Adam Curry: I want to go back to
AI for just a second because

977
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:36,990
there was something else that
that was that popped up on CTN.

978
00:54:36,990 --> 00:54:43,500
That's Canadian television. And,
you know, so whatever Elon is

979
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:47,340
doing, you know, thank you Elon.
Thank you. Ai danger has been

980
00:54:47,370 --> 00:54:50,790
set in motion the regulations
because of you. We appreciate

981
00:54:50,790 --> 00:54:57,600
that. But Jen easterly is our
representative from Sissa. The

982
00:54:57,630 --> 00:55:01,500
what does it come computer side
or infrastructure security

983
00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:05,580
administration. We're also or I
should say, are very involved

984
00:55:05,580 --> 00:55:10,680
with protecting our elections.
Because why do it on paper? And

985
00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:12,750
she shows up,

986
00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:15,780
John C Dvorak: heaven forbid
someone actually put a checkmark

987
00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:20,550
on paper now. We can actually
audited but we can't even audit

988
00:55:20,550 --> 00:55:23,760
the Pentagon, let alone audit or
own election. sleaze

989
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,530
Adam Curry: stop. Yeah. So so
she shows up. And her whole job

990
00:55:28,530 --> 00:55:32,640
here is to talk about I guess
she's doing the rounds, and no

991
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:37,590
one cares about it, because Ilan
is out there. And she's, this is

992
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:43,830
starting to not like her a lot.
But she's also full of crap.

993
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:44,580
Easterly,

994
00:55:44,580 --> 00:55:46,590
Unknown: good to meet you. I'll
start with you. I thought maybe

995
00:55:46,590 --> 00:55:48,450
it would be helpful for the
audience. Before we get into the

996
00:55:48,450 --> 00:55:51,060
solutions proposed. If each of
you could reflect on this

997
00:55:51,060 --> 00:55:55,170
threat, as you see posed by AI.
Yeah, this is truly so I think

998
00:55:55,170 --> 00:55:58,620
we have to understand that AI is
a form of information

999
00:55:58,650 --> 00:56:01,080
technology, and the short
history of information

1000
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,160
technology is frankly,
insecurity. And so you think

1001
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,330
back to the internet, it was
never created to be secure.

1002
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,370
Adam Curry: I love think back,
think back, John, to the

1003
00:56:14,370 --> 00:56:18,540
creation of the internet, it was
never created to be secure. So

1004
00:56:18,570 --> 00:56:21,630
Unknown: ultimately, it's all
been about speed to market and

1005
00:56:21,630 --> 00:56:25,830
features and driving down costs
for competition. And really

1006
00:56:25,830 --> 00:56:30,210
where it's led us is an internet
that's full of malware software

1007
00:56:30,210 --> 00:56:33,420
that's full of vulnerabilities
where social media Internet

1008
00:56:33,420 --> 00:56:35,640
Adam Curry: has resulted in
software that's full of

1009
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,710
vulnerabilities. This is great

1010
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,680
Unknown: vulnerabilities, social
media that's full of

1011
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,650
misinformation and
disinformation. And now this

1012
00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:48,240
next generation of AI, we have
to make sure that it does not

1013
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:52,680
have the vulnerabilities that
frankly, have led to ransomware

1014
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,920
attacks across all critical
infrastructure and businesses

1015
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:56,790
large and small. And

1016
00:56:56,970 --> 00:57:00,900
Adam Curry: wait a minute. So
crappy AI has led to ransomware

1017
00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:03,900
attacks. That's what she just
said,

1018
00:57:04,350 --> 00:57:07,050
John C Dvorak: Did she I didn't
hear her say that giant here

1019
00:57:07,050 --> 00:57:11,010
I'll tell you the problem.
Whoever she is she's chiefs,

1020
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:16,410
patterns, rap, rap, rapid fires
or remarks and I kind of zone

1021
00:57:16,410 --> 00:57:19,590
out I didn't I missed it. I was
must have been hypnotized stay

1022
00:57:19,590 --> 00:57:19,800
with

1023
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,200
Unknown: it abilities that,
frankly, have led

1024
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,360
Adam Curry: to roll back a
little further.

1025
00:57:25,590 --> 00:57:28,290
Unknown: We have to make sure
that it does not have the

1026
00:57:28,290 --> 00:57:32,940
vulnerabilities that frankly
have led to ransomware attacks

1027
00:57:32,970 --> 00:57:35,520
across all critical
infrastructure and businesses

1028
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:36,780
large and small. Oh,

1029
00:57:36,780 --> 00:57:38,880
Adam Curry: no, she didn't say
that. She said that just the

1030
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,100
Internet. The Internet itself is
that

1031
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:43,530
John C Dvorak: you know, what
she said was vulnerabilities

1032
00:57:43,530 --> 00:57:46,290
like the kind of the internet
that led to this Yes, it will

1033
00:57:46,290 --> 00:57:50,550
happen with AI because we're not
checking it for vulnerability.

1034
00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:51,150
Yes, right.

1035
00:57:51,210 --> 00:57:54,480
Unknown: And trillions of
dollars lost to global

1036
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,110
cybercrime. So the stakes are
very high when you think about

1037
00:57:58,110 --> 00:58:01,860
the power and the speed and the
unpredictability of these tools.

1038
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:05,760
So it really is significant that
governments came together 18

1039
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,320
governments 23 agencies, along
with 20 companies of industry

1040
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,530
that provided substantive
feedback to lay out these

1041
00:58:13,530 --> 00:58:15,600
guidelines and guardrails

1042
00:58:15,630 --> 00:58:19,500
Adam Curry: guardrails. Now, if
we don't take care of this, what

1043
00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:21,240
will the future be like? Jan,

1044
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,460
Unknown: last question to you I
think so much of this sounds

1045
00:58:23,460 --> 00:58:26,790
very technical, I think even to
myself, I'm wondering if you can

1046
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:28,140
John C Dvorak: hold on

1047
00:58:31,470 --> 00:58:33,240
Adam Curry: Yes, I'm holding on.

1048
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,560
John C Dvorak: I heard
absolutely nothing that seemed

1049
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,050
quote unquote, very technical.

1050
00:58:41,250 --> 00:58:43,530
Unknown: Last question to you. I
think so much of this sounds

1051
00:58:43,530 --> 00:58:46,860
very technical. I think even to
myself. I'm wondering if you can

1052
00:58:46,890 --> 00:58:51,360
impart on Canadians watching
tonight. What a scenario you're

1053
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,870
trying to stop looks like like
what what is it in tangible

1054
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:56,100
layman's terms that

1055
00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:59,670
you're trying to prevent from
happening? Yeah, yeah, to think

1056
00:58:59,670 --> 00:59:03,870
of AI is just a form of
software. And we know that

1057
00:59:03,870 --> 00:59:07,890
software was never created to be
safe and secure. Is

1058
00:59:07,890 --> 00:59:11,970
Adam Curry: that true? John C.
Dvorak long term columnist and

1059
00:59:11,970 --> 00:59:14,550
reporter on technology. Not

1060
00:59:14,550 --> 00:59:17,190
John C Dvorak: that I know of
it's it's actually they try to

1061
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:21,840
sell it as very, very secure.
forbid they sell it as junk that

1062
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:22,530
it is

1063
00:59:23,580 --> 00:59:27,420
Unknown: not software. And we
know that software was never

1064
00:59:27,420 --> 00:59:29,700
created to be safe and secure we

1065
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:32,520
John C Dvorak: all know is
created to be safe and secure.

1066
00:59:32,700 --> 00:59:36,300
Adam Curry: We all know it was
never created to be safe always

1067
00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:38,730
John C Dvorak: created. Who is
this woman? She couldn't

1068
00:59:38,730 --> 00:59:43,890
probably coded. A go to loop. I

1069
00:59:43,890 --> 00:59:46,200
Adam Curry: have a clue. She's
friends with Kara Swisher

1070
00:59:47,970 --> 00:59:52,260
Unknown: software. And we know
that software was never created

1071
00:59:52,260 --> 00:59:56,490
to be safe and secure. It's why
we have ransomware attacks.

1072
00:59:56,490 --> 00:59:58,200
That's why we have data theft.

1073
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,710
Adam Curry: No, Windows is why
We have ransomware attacks

1074
01:00:01,770 --> 01:00:04,080
windows, specifically Microsoft

1075
01:00:04,170 --> 01:00:06,990
Unknown: arm. It's why we have
disruptions on things like

1076
01:00:06,990 --> 01:00:11,190
pipelines. It's why our energy
grids are vulnerable. So you are

1077
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:14,400
John C Dvorak: Yes. That's why
we Yes, this because of Windows

1078
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,630
again, you gotta backup all of
that to clip but okay, Jen, who

1079
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:19,830
is this person? Jen

1080
01:00:19,890 --> 01:00:22,980
Adam Curry: easterly. Jen
eastwell. I'm going to look her

1081
01:00:22,980 --> 01:00:23,130
up.

1082
01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:27,240
John C Dvorak: Who's someone you
hate? Well, you said you learn

1083
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:27,720
gay.

1084
01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:30,360
Adam Curry: I'm learning. I'm
learning not to love. People

1085
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,950
pod. Jen. Jen easterly. Let me
give you that from the wiki is

1086
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:39,450
an American intelligence and
former military official who was

1087
01:00:39,450 --> 01:00:42,900
serving as the Director of
cybersecurity and infrastructure

1088
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:48,360
security agency in the Biden
administration. Bro raised in

1089
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:53,730
Potomac, Maryland, spook went to
the United States Military

1090
01:00:53,760 --> 01:01:00,690
Academy Pembroke College, Oxford
Rhodes Scholar, says globalist

1091
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:01,200
and

1092
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,540
John C Dvorak: she says
globalist spoke and just like

1093
01:01:03,540 --> 01:01:08,700
she just, she probably never cut
it as a spook, it seems to me

1094
01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:10,140
she doesn't get the chops,

1095
01:01:10,170 --> 01:01:13,170
Adam Curry: but she's in charge
of guardrails and in charge of

1096
01:01:13,170 --> 01:01:14,010
the electric

1097
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,740
John C Dvorak: rail, will let it
be in charge. That means nothing

1098
01:01:16,740 --> 01:01:17,280
will happen

1099
01:01:17,850 --> 01:01:21,420
Unknown: fast. It's why we have
disruptions on things like

1100
01:01:21,420 --> 01:01:25,260
pipelines, it's why our energy
grids are vulnerable. So you can

1101
01:01:25,260 --> 01:01:31,080
think about AI as the most
powerful technology of frankly,

1102
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:38,220
that we've ever seen. Use, oh,
nefarious actors, to use them

1103
01:01:38,220 --> 01:01:41,400
for offensive cyber purposes to
destroy our critical

1104
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,370
infrastructure, our water
systems, our energy systems, our

1105
01:01:44,370 --> 01:01:48,300
financial systems, you can think
about using them to create

1106
01:01:48,300 --> 01:01:52,590
biological weapons, chemical
weapons. So we really believe

1107
01:01:53,490 --> 01:01:56,970
that governments and industry
are working together to mitigate

1108
01:01:56,970 --> 01:02:00,300
the risk of these capabilities
being used for nefarious.

1109
01:02:01,260 --> 01:02:05,340
Adam Curry: So she specifically
mentioned water systems. So I

1110
01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:09,360
presume that this report will
tell us that it is AI that is

1111
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:11,370
doing this we begin with
security

1112
01:02:11,370 --> 01:02:13,770
Unknown: concerns here at home
stemming from the war in the

1113
01:02:13,770 --> 01:02:14,850
Middle East. A computer

1114
01:02:14,850 --> 01:02:18,960
hacking group with ties to Iran
has reportedly targeted a water

1115
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,560
supply system in Pennsylvania.
And the group claims this is

1116
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,580
just the beginning just the
beginning. They're using AI this

1117
01:02:26,580 --> 01:02:30,060
morning, a cyber group backed by
Iran is taking credit for

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breaching a water treatment
plant in Pennsylvania.

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01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:38,040
Their ability to infiltrate into
industrial control systems and

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01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:44,040
possibly disrupt or worse, cause
damage to our infrastructure is

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01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:45,810
very, very concerning. According

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01:02:45,810 --> 01:02:49,440
to the Beaver County. The
Municipal Water Authority and

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01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,940
Aliquippa says hackers partially
took control of a substation

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01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:57,720
Saturday, shutting down a pump
that supplies drinking water in

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01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,810
Beaver County, a message
appeared on a pump reading you

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01:03:00,810 --> 01:03:03,750
have been hacked. Every
equipment made in Israel is

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01:03:03,750 --> 01:03:07,710
cyber Avengers legal target.
Water pressure in some areas was

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01:03:07,710 --> 01:03:11,460
reportedly affected before
workers enabled a backup system.

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01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:15,660
The Cyber Avengers hacking group
is also accused of targeting 10

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01:03:15,660 --> 01:03:19,020
water treatment plants in Israel
since the war against Hamas

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01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:20,250
began the cyber

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01:03:20,250 --> 01:03:23,760
ventures or hacking collective
that is associated with Iran.

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01:03:24,060 --> 01:03:27,300
They also are supportive of
Palestine and ever since the

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01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:31,200
conflict began, we have seen
them proactively targeting

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01:03:31,230 --> 01:03:32,820
anything associated with Israel.

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01:03:32,970 --> 01:03:36,840
Experts say the cyber Avengers
group is becoming increasingly

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01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,960
sophisticated federal
authorities reportedly believe

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01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,680
the group successfully hacked
for water treatment plants on

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01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,220
the East Coast in recent days.
All of them use software

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01:03:47,220 --> 01:03:50,430
developed by an Israeli owned
company. This group has

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01:03:50,430 --> 01:03:53,460
expressed that this is just the
beginning. And we should be

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01:03:53,460 --> 01:03:56,370
vigilant that future attacks
might occur where they see

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01:03:56,370 --> 01:03:57,420
opportunities.

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01:03:57,780 --> 01:04:00,660
So Pennsylvania State Police say
they are using a team of

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01:04:00,660 --> 01:04:02,820
computer experts to investigate
the hack.

1146
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:04,860
Adam Curry: Hope it's that sis a
lady.

1147
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,130
John C Dvorak: She'll figure
telling you first of all, why is

1148
01:04:08,130 --> 01:04:11,430
a water pump in Pennsylvania
connected to the internet

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01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:13,080
internet in any way.

1150
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:17,160
Adam Curry: So because this
admin wants to do it from home?

1151
01:04:17,460 --> 01:04:18,390
Exactly.

1152
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,750
John C Dvorak: We want to
monitor the pumps from home.

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01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,310
Take these things off the net
and you won't have any problems

1154
01:04:26,310 --> 01:04:33,840
at all. I just love Why does
local water supply company

1155
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,080
hooked their pumps to the
internet? It makes no sense.

1156
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,160
It's stupid.

1157
01:04:39,660 --> 01:04:43,020
Adam Curry: Back to AI I just
want to remind everybody why AI

1158
01:04:43,020 --> 01:04:47,220
is is not real. It's not true.
It's not working. It's bogus

1159
01:04:47,220 --> 01:04:52,950
because I will not believe in AI
until it fixes my email spam.

1160
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:58,440
Why isn't someone creating a
large language model to do that

1161
01:04:58,470 --> 01:04:59,160
email

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01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,190
John C Dvorak: spam nothing What
about the stupid phone calls I

1163
01:05:02,190 --> 01:05:09,360
get from Steven bengalese guy
named Steven, who's asking me if

1164
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,390
I want to get better cable
service or if I want to get a

1165
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:15,900
new deal if I want to take a
discount on my Submariner, and

1166
01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:19,830
it's all bull crap. Why is that?
Could Why isn't that track down?

1167
01:05:19,830 --> 01:05:23,160
This is causing the American
public billions of dollars? just

1168
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,300
wasted time picking up the
stupid calls from Steven?

1169
01:05:28,020 --> 01:05:29,820
Adam Curry: Well, I think we
need to kill Steven, that may be

1170
01:05:29,820 --> 01:05:34,830
easier. Just get rid of that
guy. I'm just saying Google is

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01:05:34,830 --> 01:05:40,020
the premier source of email for
most people in the Western

1172
01:05:40,020 --> 01:05:45,180
world. Maybe their Incidentally,
I think Apple also has has a lot

1173
01:05:45,180 --> 01:05:49,260
of people. There's still some
AOL people out there. Why don't

1174
01:05:49,260 --> 01:05:53,130
they make it so that your email
only shows you what you want

1175
01:05:53,130 --> 01:05:56,220
really shows you the things that
are important to you. You know,

1176
01:05:56,220 --> 01:06:00,420
they just willy nilly filter
stuff into promotions.

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01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,480
John C Dvorak: Great, shooting
our newsletter, half the time

1178
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,610
where they let real spam come
through

1179
01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:08,580
Adam Curry: it until that time
when Google always reliably

1180
01:06:08,580 --> 01:06:12,990
delivers you the no agenda
newsletter to a steward to the

1181
01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:15,780
top of your list and says
important, important important

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01:06:16,380 --> 01:06:19,320
and doesn't file it away. AI is
bogus.

1183
01:06:20,340 --> 01:06:23,490
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not
gonna argue that point. Yeah,

1184
01:06:23,490 --> 01:06:27,300
where's the AI? Bit showing
shown to be useful except for

1185
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,640
cranking out mediocre art?

1186
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,030
Adam Curry: Yeah, or riding the
advertorials for Sports

1187
01:06:36,030 --> 01:06:37,170
Illustrated. That was pretty

1188
01:06:37,170 --> 01:06:38,790
John C Dvorak: fun. Sports
Illustrated.

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01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:42,330
Adam Curry: The best so, you
know, but it wasn't even there

1190
01:06:42,330 --> 01:06:46,080
just buying this from a company
that is delivering advertorial

1191
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:52,290
content. You know, it's it's
totally oh, by the way, oh, my

1192
01:06:52,290 --> 01:06:57,480
goodness. first sighting of the
season, first sighting of the

1193
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,780
season, what do we what do we
expect every single Christmas

1194
01:07:00,780 --> 01:07:04,170
time? Come on? Well,

1195
01:07:04,170 --> 01:07:07,290
John C Dvorak: we get the the
shopper who buys the gifts for

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01:07:07,290 --> 01:07:09,180
everybody in the store.
Christmas

1197
01:07:09,180 --> 01:07:11,100
Unknown: spirit is alive and
well. In Melbourne, a Secret

1198
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:14,580
Santa came into Kmart Richmond
store on Saturday and paid off

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01:07:14,580 --> 01:07:20,070
all the labor. The $200 Barbie
house and an $89 Barbie Dream

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01:07:20,610 --> 01:07:23,340
came out hasn't revealed how
much the Good Samaritan spent or

1201
01:07:23,340 --> 01:07:27,090
how many customers benefited
from the gesture. Just as good

1202
01:07:27,090 --> 01:07:27,210
when

1203
01:07:27,210 --> 01:07:29,730
we see that Australians are
still prepared to help others in

1204
01:07:29,730 --> 01:07:32,400
need. Even though they don't
know who they are. They're not

1205
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,400
family or friends but just
random acts of kindness. It's

1206
01:07:35,550 --> 01:07:36,180
it's great.

1207
01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:39,810
Pricey Where were you? And you

1208
01:07:40,830 --> 01:07:42,540
work this out. Now

1209
01:07:42,750 --> 01:07:45,630
John C Dvorak: this this brother
right this is a they should ban

1210
01:07:45,630 --> 01:07:48,450
these stories and point out
these are bogus stories. It

1211
01:07:48,450 --> 01:07:53,160
probably not even true. Let
alone permit. It's already after

1212
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,290
the fact. So what difference
does it make anyone who wants to

1213
01:07:55,290 --> 01:08:01,470
get a free doll doll or or toy
from Walmart is nonsense. Every

1214
01:08:01,470 --> 01:08:02,160
year. This is

1215
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:07,500
Adam Curry: a triple whammy.
First of all, as you it well,

1216
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:10,860
I'll get back to the to the
third of the Whammies. But here

1217
01:08:10,860 --> 01:08:15,300
we have the typical. We we know
that this is done over and over

1218
01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:18,840
again Secret Santa, and they're
always promoting Walmart or

1219
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,950
Walgreens or target. It's always
a big box store. It's a known

1220
01:08:23,820 --> 01:08:27,990
promotion. This time it's
Australia that can you Oh, there

1221
01:08:28,020 --> 01:08:31,140
they are. 12 hours ahead of us
are the first ones to come out

1222
01:08:31,140 --> 01:08:36,000
with it. But they did not inform
the old coot on the news team.

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01:08:36,180 --> 01:08:40,980
Everybody's in on it. Everybody
except for the old guy. And I

1224
01:08:40,980 --> 01:08:44,370
don't know what this old guy
does at this news desk. But he's

1225
01:08:44,430 --> 01:08:47,430
you know, and they and they,
they they involve him by saying

1226
01:08:47,550 --> 01:08:51,330
Where were you old guy? What
Where did you do this? You all

1227
01:08:51,480 --> 01:08:56,310
your old adorable coot. And the
old guy does not follow the

1228
01:08:56,310 --> 01:08:59,340
script because they forgot to
give it to him. And you

1229
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:05,519
Unknown: work this out. Why? Why
would someone do that? What do

1230
01:09:05,519 --> 01:09:08,909
you mean? Why would they? Why
would you do that? What's the

1231
01:09:08,909 --> 01:09:13,319
Christmas to help people out?
Yeah, maybe? It just It puzzles

1232
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:17,369
me. They came here we did it
themselves. No, no.

1233
01:09:19,170 --> 01:09:20,940
You think that? Well,

1234
01:09:20,940 --> 01:09:23,640
no, I'm just puzzled as to why
this would happen. If they did

1235
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,730
that. Wouldn't they just say
we've forgiven the labor

1236
01:09:27,930 --> 01:09:32,250
theory it could be anyone it
could stuff on labeling. Not

1237
01:09:32,250 --> 01:09:35,280
everyone's gonna go back to the

1238
01:09:36,660 --> 01:09:38,220
Adam Curry: show. Then they
accused him of being you know,

1239
01:09:38,220 --> 01:09:43,380
britch and he has a private jet.
But listen to what he says,

1240
01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:47,100
well, didn't Kmart just do this
themselves? And one of the guys

1241
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:50,580
if you listen carefully,
actually says Why would we do

1242
01:09:50,580 --> 01:09:50,880
that?

1243
01:09:52,529 --> 01:09:56,789
Unknown: And you would miss out.
Why? Why would someone do that?

1244
01:09:58,500 --> 01:10:01,410
Adam Curry: First Why would
someone do it? Why don't you

1245
01:10:01,410 --> 01:10:03,210
understand this an ad old dude?

1246
01:10:04,350 --> 01:10:09,000
Unknown: Why? Why would someone
do that? What do you mean why

1247
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,480
would they why would you do
that? What's the Christmas to

1248
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:18,930
help people out? Maybe it just
It puzzles me you wouldn't do it

1249
01:10:18,930 --> 01:10:19,680
themselves

1250
01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:25,590
Adam Curry: don't you can hear
the the one of the guys in the

1251
01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:31,770
panel says Why do you say we
would do that? No, no. But now

1252
01:10:31,770 --> 01:10:36,060
that's the second part of the
triple whammy. The real joke is

1253
01:10:36,060 --> 01:10:39,960
and of course you don't have the
images. They they show the

1254
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:45,570
store. They show a guy at the I
guess the layaway desk, bringing

1255
01:10:45,570 --> 01:10:49,140
out two articles and placing
them right in front of the

1256
01:10:49,140 --> 01:10:52,290
camera. Listen again to who's
really paying for this ad.

1257
01:10:52,410 --> 01:10:52,770
Christmas

1258
01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:54,690
Unknown: spirit is alive and
well. In Melbourne, a Secret

1259
01:10:54,690 --> 01:10:57,750
Santa came into came out to
Richmond store on Saturday and

1260
01:10:57,750 --> 01:11:02,160
paid off all the labor. Among
the items $200 Barbie house and

1261
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,620
an $89 Barbie Dream. It's

1262
01:11:04,620 --> 01:11:05,850
Adam Curry: a Barbie ad.

1263
01:11:06,210 --> 01:11:08,250
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Mattel,
Mattel

1264
01:11:09,660 --> 01:11:12,450
Adam Curry: and they place
vintage $200 $80 for this and

1265
01:11:12,450 --> 01:11:17,430
they haven't right there. To
price. Yes, it's a bit Mattel ad

1266
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:18,180
people

1267
01:11:20,340 --> 01:11:23,400
John C Dvorak: get with it. It
did a whole movie. That's an ad

1268
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,480
and people flocked to it.

1269
01:11:25,770 --> 01:11:28,650
Adam Curry: I gotta hand it to
Mattel. There were only a

1270
01:11:28,650 --> 01:11:31,620
John C Dvorak: new marketing
person at Mattel doing they were

1271
01:11:31,620 --> 01:11:32,460
almost dead.

1272
01:11:32,460 --> 01:11:34,500
Adam Curry: 10 years ago,
remember that? They were like

1273
01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:38,670
the short of the century. They
were they were dead. And boom,

1274
01:11:38,670 --> 01:11:42,240
there it is shorter than they
were Oh man. It's just so

1275
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,190
beautiful. So beautiful.

1276
01:11:44,190 --> 01:11:46,290
John C Dvorak: It'll tell you
this sort of thing. I got a

1277
01:11:46,290 --> 01:11:51,510
native ad. Oh, good. This native
ad wouldn't have called here.

1278
01:11:51,540 --> 01:11:54,960
Would it be native ad? They
probably wouldn't be that I

1279
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:55,500
don't see it.

1280
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:57,330
Adam Curry: I see Nikki Haley,

1281
01:11:57,870 --> 01:12:02,100
John C Dvorak: and Nikki. Here
it is big. Oh, sorry. Let me set

1282
01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:05,610
this up. Pop start. My favorite
start is on the Today show. It's

1283
01:12:05,610 --> 01:12:08,370
a little segment that Carson
Daly comes out. He does. It's

1284
01:12:08,370 --> 01:12:13,110
called Pop start. And it's all
native ads. And so and it's

1285
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:16,950
really pathetic, because it's
really, I mean, it's pathetic.

1286
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,620
Because they plug one thing
after another they're coming out

1287
01:12:19,620 --> 01:12:25,140
I left this the end of the
coming out of a new single by

1288
01:12:25,530 --> 01:12:28,800
the what's the name of the
singer this married to the other

1289
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:33,720
but the famous black singer and
singer. I need a little more to

1290
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:38,310
work with. She's married to the
britches black singer in the

1291
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:42,180
world. A Jay? Jay I see I think
is JLo

1292
01:12:42,180 --> 01:12:46,020
Adam Curry: JLo. She's She's
Latina, Latinx, whoever,

1293
01:12:46,020 --> 01:12:46,380
whatever

1294
01:12:46,380 --> 01:12:49,200
John C Dvorak: she is she but
she got a new signal is the

1295
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,900
greatest thing ever in their UI.
And I go over it. And so they go

1296
01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:55,440
to the next thing. And then they
go into this, this product.

1297
01:12:56,010 --> 01:13:00,270
You're talking about Beyonce,
Beyonce. And so that doesn't

1298
01:13:00,270 --> 01:13:03,210
matter. Because they're going
into the real native ad.

1299
01:13:05,340 --> 01:13:07,080
Adam Curry: Yes, I'm sorry. I'll
be quiet.

1300
01:13:08,340 --> 01:13:11,250
John C Dvorak: They're going
into this ad for a bagel that's

1301
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:17,700
got beer in the dough and their
mail order bagel. So they're

1302
01:13:17,700 --> 01:13:22,320
going on and on about this bagel
and it is a plug for the bagel

1303
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:27,270
company which is a pop up bagel.
And you get to listen to Al

1304
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:33,630
Roker two times say I love pop
up bagels. I love Papa he does

1305
01:13:33,630 --> 01:13:34,380
it twice for me.

1306
01:13:34,890 --> 01:13:36,690
Adam Curry: What are what are
pop up bagels

1307
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,630
John C Dvorak: What are its a
bagel pop up store that crops up

1308
01:13:39,630 --> 01:13:40,290
in New York I

1309
01:13:40,290 --> 01:13:42,900
Adam Curry: guess what is called
a bagel it's called the bagel

1310
01:13:42,900 --> 01:13:44,340
pop up Yeah,

1311
01:13:44,340 --> 01:13:47,340
John C Dvorak: I guess I'm
familiar with it. Oh, but they

1312
01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:50,220
the way they really annoying
This is the worst kind of native

1313
01:13:50,220 --> 01:13:51,240
ad you'll ever hear.

1314
01:13:53,370 --> 01:13:56,040
Adam Curry: Yeah, well let's
let's practice John. We can get

1315
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:57,090
one of these ready

1316
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,400
Unknown: want to see what's
happening in there? Kalos Center

1317
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,070
released a single called can't
get enough in January. You are

1318
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:11,280
Adam Curry: right it's JLo I
take it all back the album

1319
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:11,700
release

1320
01:14:11,970 --> 01:14:16,470
Unknown: and film debut on Prime
Video February 16 Steamy stuff

1321
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:20,430
holiday Lopez. Finally stuff you
know we love a good food

1322
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:24,390
collaboration Popstar we've you
know we've covered to last John

1323
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,810
Adam Curry: How much do you love
a good food collaboration with

1324
01:14:27,810 --> 01:14:32,550
your favorite Popstar nothing
like a holiday

1325
01:14:33,930 --> 01:14:37,260
Unknown: finally, you know we
love a good food collaboration

1326
01:14:37,260 --> 01:14:40,260
pop star we've you know we've
covered to last us ice cream you

1327
01:14:40,260 --> 01:14:43,500
just did the McDonald's crocs
recently well now Blue Moons

1328
01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:46,350
bagels that's right Blue Moon
and New York's beloved pop up

1329
01:14:46,350 --> 01:14:49,770
they love pop up bagels are
teaming up and infusing real

1330
01:14:49,770 --> 01:14:55,650
beer into this beautiful
breakfast bread. orange cream

1331
01:14:55,650 --> 01:14:56,520
cheese did

1332
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,730
you manage mimics? Yes I did.
This is happening. Salt bagels.

1333
01:14:59,730 --> 01:15:05,970
It's true. I have a bagel. Dip
it in one of these. Orange Yeah,

1334
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:11,280
sure, but it's just I wanted to
get your other one this spread

1335
01:15:12,570 --> 01:15:17,340
Savannah has in the bagel. I
bring bagels and beer. I love

1336
01:15:17,340 --> 01:15:27,750
this. I love crunchy outside
soft. Much like you. There's no

1337
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:33,060
alcohol in the beer. I mean in
the ones you know, there was a

1338
01:15:33,060 --> 01:15:36,180
towel bagel, salted plain
everything ordered nationwide

1339
01:15:36,180 --> 01:15:38,310
shipping starts today at noon.
If you're interested to have

1340
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:40,500
this feast, you can do that noon
Eastern time.

1341
01:15:44,670 --> 01:15:47,760
Adam Curry: Got it? Oh, my word.

1342
01:15:48,810 --> 01:15:51,870
John C Dvorak: This is what TVs
come to. Well, I

1343
01:15:51,870 --> 01:15:55,350
Adam Curry: can I can not as
funny. But I can show you it's

1344
01:15:55,350 --> 01:16:01,680
even worse than that. By the
way, people will say, Man, Linda

1345
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:07,380
Lou Patton's doing a native ad.
Well, I don't think so. I love

1346
01:16:07,380 --> 01:16:12,510
Linda Lou Pak and no, yeah, she
has great job search needs.

1347
01:16:13,230 --> 01:16:19,380
Police Police people know this.
Now you alluded to some of this

1348
01:16:19,380 --> 01:16:23,100
and it's not the first clip I'm
going to play. But the native ad

1349
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:28,410
is in full effect for deskbound
Manjaro, which is the you know,

1350
01:16:28,410 --> 01:16:32,760
the new weight loss version of
Manjaro. Manjaro is the diabetes

1351
01:16:32,970 --> 01:16:37,020
weight loss drug, which is for
diabetics, but it helps you lose

1352
01:16:37,020 --> 01:16:40,650
weight and death bound, which I
think is called Zip bound. But

1353
01:16:40,650 --> 01:16:45,480
death bound as we call it is you
know there is native advertising

1354
01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:52,590
everywhere. But this is a huge
shift in lots of different

1355
01:16:52,590 --> 01:16:56,580
businesses. And we're going to
get to the ultimate outcome of

1356
01:16:56,580 --> 01:16:59,670
what needs to happen and what I
think everyone is really pining

1357
01:16:59,670 --> 01:17:05,760
over. But one of the companies
that clearly needs to room

1358
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:10,890
correct themselves is Weight
Watchers. Because for years

1359
01:17:10,890 --> 01:17:16,230
Weight Watchers told people it
was your it was you you you have

1360
01:17:16,230 --> 01:17:17,430
no self control.

1361
01:17:17,730 --> 01:17:19,500
John C Dvorak: You ate too damn
much food.

1362
01:17:19,530 --> 01:17:22,320
Adam Curry: You have no portion
control. Well, now we know

1363
01:17:22,590 --> 01:17:26,970
thanks to Big Pharma and
incessant lying, that people who

1364
01:17:26,970 --> 01:17:31,890
are overweight it's not. It's
not you. It's a medical

1365
01:17:31,890 --> 01:17:37,350
condition. It's a disease. This
disease. It's not the horrible

1366
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:40,380
crap foods you're eating. It's
not the portions you're eating.

1367
01:17:40,530 --> 01:17:43,140
Man. When I was growing up in
the Netherlands, the Dutch

1368
01:17:43,140 --> 01:17:46,590
people would always go you
Americans. You have big gulp

1369
01:17:46,590 --> 01:17:51,210
Vata is dead sheep, man. No
wonder you're fat. Yeah, we're

1370
01:17:51,210 --> 01:17:55,080
drinking big gallons of sugary
water. But that's not the

1371
01:17:55,080 --> 01:18:02,610
problem. It's a disease. So
Weight Watchers hired CNN. And

1372
01:18:02,610 --> 01:18:05,340
they did a beautiful
advertorial. I tightened it up

1373
01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:11,760
to like a buck 40 5am They long
was it God was three minutes. It

1374
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:16,320
was it was expensive, expensive
CNN BUSINESS, a CNN BUSINESS

1375
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,860
cheap CNN business? I don't
think anyone watches this. But

1376
01:18:19,890 --> 01:18:20,250
yeah,

1377
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,530
John C Dvorak: so they probably
could have gone 10 minutes

1378
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:23,820
because they have a relatively
new

1379
01:18:23,820 --> 01:18:26,850
Adam Curry: CEO. And she is
sorry.

1380
01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:31,290
Unknown: But in 2023, another
huge shift led by CEO Seema

1381
01:18:31,290 --> 01:18:34,620
Stani. Weight Watchers jumped
into the booming prescription

1382
01:18:34,620 --> 01:18:37,650
weight loss drug business
acknowledging that for some diet

1383
01:18:37,650 --> 01:18:39,180
and exercise aren't enough,

1384
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,690
though I want to be the first to
say I'm sorry. And we know

1385
01:18:42,690 --> 01:18:46,260
better now, we will do better.
Now. For many who are living

1386
01:18:46,260 --> 01:18:50,100
with obesity. It's a chronic
condition. And therefore it is

1387
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:55,440
not a choice. We needed to be
the first to be proud and loud

1388
01:18:55,470 --> 01:18:58,290
of notice the piano. Oh, the
fact that we got it wrong. In

1389
01:18:58,290 --> 01:19:01,170
the past, we've been treating
these medications like it's a

1390
01:19:01,170 --> 01:19:03,870
vanity. And it's not it's
lifesaving.

1391
01:19:04,530 --> 01:19:07,260
In some ways it's sort of make
or break for the business too,

1392
01:19:07,260 --> 01:19:09,360
though, right? Because this is
sort of the direction this

1393
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,100
industry is going without.

1394
01:19:12,420 --> 01:19:14,130
John C Dvorak: This is
disgusting.

1395
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,280
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Especially
with the piano music on a news

1396
01:19:17,310 --> 01:19:19,050
item. Suppose Yeah, piano

1397
01:19:19,050 --> 01:19:20,970
John C Dvorak: music going to
news items kind of a giveaway as

1398
01:19:20,970 --> 01:19:24,240
a native ad. But this is
disgusting. So basically, there

1399
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:28,560
were higher their entire modus
operandi, which is to get people

1400
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:32,220
to eat less food or eat then or
dead switch over and completely

1401
01:19:32,220 --> 01:19:37,350
eating their crummy food as a
part of a lifestyle change.

1402
01:19:38,010 --> 01:19:40,050
They've just given up on it. No,

1403
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:44,160
Adam Curry: no, no. I know what
they we talked about what the

1404
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,560
change they made, but this is
them selling the change. It'll

1405
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:46,980
come at the

1406
01:19:46,980 --> 01:19:49,740
Unknown: end past we've been
treating these medications like

1407
01:19:49,740 --> 01:19:53,730
it's a vanity. And it's not.
It's lifesaving. In some

1408
01:19:53,730 --> 01:19:56,280
ways it's sort of make or break
for the business too, though,

1409
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,740
right? Because this is sort of
the direction this industry is

1410
01:19:58,740 --> 01:20:00,900
going with or without Weight
Watchers.

1411
01:20:01,410 --> 01:20:03,900
I would say that's true. I would
say that's true. And I think

1412
01:20:03,900 --> 01:20:08,100
that people who are deniers
about the fact that obesity is a

1413
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:10,620
chronic condition, our

1414
01:20:10,650 --> 01:20:14,190
Adam Curry: fat deniers, John,
don't you dare deny that this is

1415
01:20:14,220 --> 01:20:18,750
a chronic medical condition. You
are a denier. If you say they're

1416
01:20:18,780 --> 01:20:19,170
going to be

1417
01:20:19,170 --> 01:20:20,100
Unknown: left behind,

1418
01:20:20,190 --> 01:20:24,030
we watch response sequence a $99
a month telehealth subscription

1419
01:20:24,030 --> 01:20:26,880
service that connects patients
to doctors who can prescribe

1420
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,560
weight loss and diabetes drugs.

1421
01:20:28,830 --> 01:20:31,470
It's incredibly important to
communicate the risks. And

1422
01:20:31,470 --> 01:20:35,040
that's why the training in
obesity care management is is

1423
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:39,030
really important. Also the
lifestyle interventions that

1424
01:20:39,060 --> 01:20:41,700
need to be done alongside the
medications,

1425
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,640
why should somebody come to
weightwatchers for these kinds

1426
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,800
of prescription weight loss
drugs instead of just going to

1427
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,200
their doctor? Well, they can
absolutely

1428
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:53,160
go to their doctor. But I think
that what we can provide is a

1429
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:57,720
higher support solution. Many
doctors don't have training in

1430
01:20:58,230 --> 01:21:01,950
nutrition, obesity care
management, and nor do they have

1431
01:21:01,950 --> 01:21:05,580
the support system to basically
help throughout the journey. How

1432
01:21:05,580 --> 01:21:08,490
do you avoid having to rebrand
the company every couple of

1433
01:21:08,490 --> 01:21:10,860
years as people talk about
weight loss differently,

1434
01:21:10,890 --> 01:21:15,540
I think of it less as rebranding
and more that we shouldn't be

1435
01:21:15,540 --> 01:21:18,900
changing. We shouldn't be
evolving. You can't be around

1436
01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:22,500
for 60 years and still be the
same thing. Our whole world has

1437
01:21:22,500 --> 01:21:23,100
shifted

1438
01:21:23,130 --> 01:21:26,460
Adam Curry: Yeah, as they are
now in obesity care management

1439
01:21:26,460 --> 01:21:29,610
and why go to a doctor when you
can get a higher support

1440
01:21:29,610 --> 01:21:32,010
solution. I mean, seriously,

1441
01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:34,980
John C Dvorak: why go to the
doctor who is any good will or

1442
01:21:34,980 --> 01:21:38,880
she is any good? They'll say
what do you nuts? Stop eating?

1443
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:42,000
Stop eating your fat pig. You're

1444
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:46,890
Adam Curry: a denier. You're a
denier so now we have the best

1445
01:21:47,190 --> 01:21:53,460
way to to position yourself as a
company well there's the best

1446
01:21:53,460 --> 01:21:57,510
way used to be give yourself an
award you create an award show

1447
01:21:57,510 --> 01:22:00,900
give yourself the award is not
what the Archer Daniels Midland

1448
01:22:00,930 --> 01:22:04,470
award whatever the know what's
that award? You can buy

1449
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:05,790
something called like

1450
01:22:05,970 --> 01:22:07,950
John C Dvorak: most of the
awards you have to pay for to

1451
01:22:07,950 --> 01:22:11,700
enter Yeah. And then to buy it
though. kind of tease you with

1452
01:22:11,700 --> 01:22:14,010
the award. But you got to get
more money. Yeah,

1453
01:22:14,250 --> 01:22:16,170
Adam Curry: I forget. Right.
Come on. What's the thing that

1454
01:22:16,170 --> 01:22:19,080
they always have the air? Oh, JD
Power. Thank you. Troll room.

1455
01:22:19,170 --> 01:22:21,210
John C Dvorak: Oh, JD Power JD
Power.

1456
01:22:21,330 --> 01:22:22,800
Adam Curry: Give me a big
company

1457
01:22:22,980 --> 01:22:27,510
John C Dvorak: has made billions
I know untoward? We're stupid.

1458
01:22:27,540 --> 01:22:31,140
But we'll get to that. And so
I've been trying to diagnose but

1459
01:22:31,140 --> 01:22:31,980
you refuse you

1460
01:22:31,980 --> 01:22:34,290
Adam Curry: refuse because I'm
too honest.

1461
01:22:34,710 --> 01:22:38,220
John C Dvorak: You're just
refuse you hate it. So

1462
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:43,950
Adam Curry: Manjaro does the
study of their own drug. That's

1463
01:22:43,980 --> 01:22:47,280
usually how you get it approved
anyway, so we might as well put

1464
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,610
it into some running through
chat. GBT turn it into a press

1465
01:22:50,610 --> 01:22:54,960
release. And there's a reason
for this. They are they are all

1466
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,830
angling for one single thing.
We'll listen to the native ad

1467
01:22:59,610 --> 01:23:03,090
that is running on NBC. I do a
new report on two popular weight

1468
01:23:03,090 --> 01:23:03,750
loss drugs

1469
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:05,640
Unknown: Manjaro and ozempic.
For the first

1470
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,970
time researchers looked at real
world data on the two

1471
01:23:08,970 --> 01:23:09,630
medications

1472
01:23:09,660 --> 01:23:12,360
Adam Curry: real world data W.

1473
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,050
Unknown: Comparing how much
weight people lost in them and

1474
01:23:16,050 --> 01:23:17,910
get this one came out way ahead.

1475
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:19,980
Adam Curry: BUSINESS
CORRESPONDENT CHRISTINE ROMANS,

1476
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,290
one came way, way ahead.

1477
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:24,420
John C Dvorak: We're the one who
paid us now

1478
01:23:24,420 --> 01:23:26,220
Unknown: with more on this
intriguing the one who did the

1479
01:23:26,220 --> 01:23:28,770
study headline. Christine. Good
morning. Good morning.

1480
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,070
John C Dvorak: Before he played
the end of this, on this same

1481
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:34,980
show that you pulled this clip.
Was there any mention of the

1482
01:23:34,980 --> 01:23:40,320
450,000 Africans that were that
are now homeless and roaming as

1483
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,990
refugees? There's even one
mention of it.

1484
01:23:43,650 --> 01:23:46,680
Adam Curry: Well, if they were
fat, they would be but that's

1485
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,650
the problem. They're not eating.
They don't have this disease.

1486
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,570
Unknown: There's now with more
on this intriguing headline

1487
01:23:51,570 --> 01:23:52,440
Christina. Good morning.

1488
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,960
Good morning to both of you. You
know this is a hot topic for

1489
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,340
sure. These hot,

1490
01:23:56,820 --> 01:23:59,100
Adam Curry: hot topic for sure
Hot Topic class of

1491
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:02,100
Unknown: drugs very exciting.
According to the NIH, more than

1492
01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:04,710
two out of every five adults in
this country suffer from

1493
01:24:04,740 --> 01:24:07,710
obesity. And we know from
clinical trials that ozempic and

1494
01:24:07,710 --> 01:24:11,340
Manjaro they work really well to
help people lose weight but now

1495
01:24:11,550 --> 01:24:14,310
a new analysis finds one of
those drugs is the clear winner

1496
01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:15,930
in getting results. Yeah.

1497
01:24:15,930 --> 01:24:18,000
John C Dvorak: Oh, we play this
clip on the last show.

1498
01:24:18,030 --> 01:24:20,850
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no,
this this is new. This is new

1499
01:24:20,850 --> 01:24:24,600
information. Man. This is brand
new. This is great. And man

1500
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,880
Gerald can help decrease how
much food you eat.

1501
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,580
Unknown: There are two of the
most popular weapons in the

1502
01:24:29,580 --> 01:24:30,960
battle against obesity,

1503
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:35,220
Adam Curry: weapons weapons.
This is a war a war against fat.

1504
01:24:35,220 --> 01:24:37,320
Unknown: Now a new report
suggests one of these

1505
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,980
blockbuster drugs is far more
effective in helping people

1506
01:24:40,980 --> 01:24:44,730
slimmed down. The analysis
looked at real world data from

1507
01:24:44,730 --> 01:24:49,860
about 18,000 overweight adults
using Manjaro or ozempic over a

1508
01:24:49,860 --> 01:24:53,640
year, it found those taking
Manjaro were three times more

1509
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,360
likely to lose 15% of their body
weight than those others Empik

1510
01:24:57,540 --> 01:25:01,170
and more than two and a half
times more likely to Lose 10% of

1511
01:25:01,170 --> 01:25:02,280
their body weight. Well,

1512
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,650
Adam Curry: I know which one I'm
choosing. Well, not

1513
01:25:04,650 --> 01:25:07,200
Unknown: a peer reviewed study
this echoes previous research.

1514
01:25:08,610 --> 01:25:11,850
Adam Curry: Well, not a peer
reviewed study, which was you

1515
01:25:11,850 --> 01:25:14,760
know, when it came to
ivermectin, it's not peer

1516
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,820
reviewed. This is just a
conspiracy theory. This has been

1517
01:25:17,820 --> 01:25:19,680
debunked many times over and
more

1518
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,890
Unknown: than two and a half
times more likely to lose 10% of

1519
01:25:22,890 --> 01:25:25,860
their body weight through the
mouth people. Well, not a peer

1520
01:25:25,860 --> 01:25:28,710
reviewed study. This echoes
previous research that found

1521
01:25:28,710 --> 01:25:32,040
Manjaro more effective than
ozempic in helping some people

1522
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,850
with weight loss. Both drugs are
taken through weekly injections,

1523
01:25:35,970 --> 01:25:40,500
and are FDA approved only for
type two diabetes, not weight

1524
01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:44,250
loss. I've lost 17 pounds and
eight weeks, but demand is

1525
01:25:44,250 --> 01:25:48,000
soaring as more patients use
them off label to shed unwanted

1526
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,600
pounds. Doctors say they work by
mimicking hormones in the gut

1527
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:52,980
tied to appetite.

1528
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:56,340
The major difference between the
two medications is that Manjaro

1529
01:25:56,340 --> 01:26:01,470
is working on two hormones and
working on one hormone oh, we're

1530
01:26:01,470 --> 01:26:04,530
essentially getting more bang
for the buck when you take

1531
01:26:04,530 --> 01:26:05,910
majoro after

1532
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:09,390
struggling with obesity her
whole life. Tara Rothen Hofer

1533
01:26:09,390 --> 01:26:14,040
joined a 200 pounds yes Jarrow.
Three years in she says she's

1534
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:18,690
lost more than 200 pounds.
Instead of that feeling of

1535
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,120
looking towards your next meal
while you're still eating the

1536
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:25,200
current meal. You're having more
of that feeling of satisfaction

1537
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:26,100
of enjoyment.

1538
01:26:26,130 --> 01:26:29,430
You know you have a few bites of
something and you feel foolish.

1539
01:26:29,730 --> 01:26:33,000
Eli Lilly maker of Manjaro says
it'll soon release a version

1540
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,900
that's FDA approved for weight
loss called Zed bound. In a

1541
01:26:36,900 --> 01:26:40,500
statement, the maker of Olympic
Novo Nordisk told us their drug

1542
01:26:40,500 --> 01:26:44,670
is only meant to treat Type Two
Diabetes, it's approved drug for

1543
01:26:44,670 --> 01:26:48,180
weight loss called Wigo. V is
similar but at a higher dose

1544
01:26:48,180 --> 01:26:51,510
than ozempic. experts caution
the safety of these drugs is

1545
01:26:51,510 --> 01:26:54,930
still unknown and healthy people
just want to lose a few pounds.

1546
01:26:54,930 --> 01:26:58,020
Who cares. They can have side
effects like gastrointestinal

1547
01:26:58,020 --> 01:27:01,740
distress, nausea and vomiting.
And they only curb hunger while

1548
01:27:01,740 --> 01:27:02,760
being used.

1549
01:27:02,850 --> 01:27:07,530
For most patients. When you stop
the medication, you will regain

1550
01:27:07,530 --> 01:27:11,310
roughly two thirds of that
weight. This is not a medication

1551
01:27:11,490 --> 01:27:13,530
that will reset you for life.

1552
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,860
Adam Curry: Okay, and now we get
down to what this is really all

1553
01:27:16,860 --> 01:27:20,640
about one thing and one thing
only. And I guarantee you, the

1554
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:24,540
Biden administration will push
this and push and of course, the

1555
01:27:24,540 --> 01:27:27,780
executive order whatever they
need, they're gonna get this,

1556
01:27:28,110 --> 01:27:32,100
this in one place, the most
important remember, this is a

1557
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:36,780
disease. This is a debilitating
disease. This is ruining

1558
01:27:36,780 --> 01:27:40,200
people's lives. This is a
horrible thing. And we finally

1559
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,860
have a solution. So we need that
were on Medicare.

1560
01:27:43,890 --> 01:27:45,450
Unknown: So bottom line,
Christine, no matter what these

1561
01:27:45,450 --> 01:27:48,210
drugs are expensive, how much
does insurance cover?

1562
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,670
So right now, these are quite
expensive. Some of these drugs

1563
01:27:50,670 --> 01:27:54,420
are hundreds of dollars a week.
Now if you are prescribed for

1564
01:27:54,420 --> 01:27:57,540
diabetes, then you may have
insurance will cover this and

1565
01:27:57,540 --> 01:27:59,880
insurance does cover a lot of
people on these drugs. But for

1566
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,820
weight loss, specifically, some
of these drugs are not covered

1567
01:28:02,820 --> 01:28:06,120
by insurance. And one of the
wrinkles here, Michael, is that

1568
01:28:06,150 --> 01:28:09,810
Medicare way back like 20 years
ago in the fen Phen craze,

1569
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,770
Congress made that Medicare
would not cover weight loss,

1570
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:17,880
because there were so many
dramatic scams, so they need to

1571
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:22,020
go back into Medicare starts to
cover it for weight loss, then

1572
01:28:22,020 --> 01:28:24,090
you'll probably see insurers
start to follow we're not there

1573
01:28:24,090 --> 01:28:26,910
yet. We are in the early days of
this, but this is our story.

1574
01:28:27,090 --> 01:28:30,600
It's also an economy story.
Because when you can get health

1575
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,620
care costs in this country under
control, it could be really life

1576
01:28:34,620 --> 01:28:38,610
changing and also financially
important for the country.

1577
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,130
Absolutely. When less people are
obese. Exactly.

1578
01:28:43,620 --> 01:28:46,500
John C Dvorak: Bullshit is not
going to help anybody.

1579
01:28:46,830 --> 01:28:49,440
Adam Curry: No, but what they
want is that the drug company

1580
01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:52,590
companies but Eli Lilly is
leading the charge they want

1581
01:28:52,650 --> 01:28:56,160
their drivers on Medicare, they
want this to be covered by

1582
01:28:56,160 --> 01:29:01,140
Medicare so they can pull ahead
of the rest of the pack. And be

1583
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:06,150
under a lie. I mean, I'm not a
doctor, but come on now. You

1584
01:29:06,150 --> 01:29:10,170
know, yeah, you're puking you
have stomach issues. The food

1585
01:29:10,170 --> 01:29:15,630
noise is gone. And so So yeah,
it was we might we gotta get the

1586
01:29:15,630 --> 01:29:20,790
Medicare but it changes the
lives of the it'll it'll combat

1587
01:29:20,790 --> 01:29:24,480
climate change. I'm telling you,
we're gonna change

1588
01:29:24,480 --> 01:29:27,090
John C Dvorak: his party. I got
a bunch of clips called spending

1589
01:29:27,090 --> 01:29:29,910
dilemma that might actually
touch on this.

1590
01:29:30,300 --> 01:29:32,490
Adam Curry: Let me play one last
one because this is such a

1591
01:29:32,490 --> 01:29:35,460
wonder drug. It's doing more
than I mean, we know that people

1592
01:29:35,460 --> 01:29:38,430
don't want to drink alcohol.
They don't want to snort cocaine

1593
01:29:38,430 --> 01:29:38,910
and then

1594
01:29:38,940 --> 01:29:40,770
Unknown: this is a conversation
I'm really excited that we're

1595
01:29:40,770 --> 01:29:47,220
about to have we heard about the
benefits of ozempic we talked

1596
01:29:47,220 --> 01:29:50,220
about we go we wait what has
become weight loss drugs, but

1597
01:29:50,220 --> 01:29:53,310
Adam Curry: now oh, now wait a
minute we have we're better than

1598
01:29:53,310 --> 01:29:55,020
Manjaro there's new information

1599
01:29:55,020 --> 01:29:57,450
Unknown: about how information
can help women who are going

1600
01:29:57,450 --> 01:30:01,620
through menopause. How does it
work? And what does it mean for

1601
01:30:01,650 --> 01:30:04,770
any woman who leaves approaching
that age? Oh me. Yeah,

1602
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,250
we are doing a joined now by Dr.
Robbins to talk more about this

1603
01:30:08,250 --> 01:30:11,400
and this is a conversation I
know Charlene, you are really as

1604
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,950
we had our meetings in the
newsroom, so many points to get

1605
01:30:13,950 --> 01:30:14,130
to.

1606
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,980
Let me just say this Dr. Alicia
Robins. She is a board certified

1607
01:30:16,980 --> 01:30:20,310
OBGYN. She is a lifestyle
physician. She also has a

1608
01:30:20,430 --> 01:30:23,580
medical practice called the LM
which specializes in

1609
01:30:23,580 --> 01:30:27,270
perimenopause and menopause for
women. I've never even heard of

1610
01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:30,960
a practice that specializes in
this. Oh, this is so exciting,

1611
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,830
guys. But first of all, thank
you for joining us. And can you

1612
01:30:34,830 --> 01:30:37,320
please tell us right off the
bat? First of all, who should be

1613
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:40,710
paying attention to this right
now? This is not just older

1614
01:30:40,710 --> 01:30:42,840
women, right? Talk about that.
It's

1615
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,810
Adam Curry: not just for older
women, no menopause. You gotta

1616
01:30:45,810 --> 01:30:49,110
be thinking about it when you're
young. Yes, yes. First of all,

1617
01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:52,410
hi, everyone. Thank you so much
for having me. This is so fun.

1618
01:30:52,440 --> 01:30:55,530
It's so fun. It's so fun. I'm
getting paid. It's so fun.

1619
01:30:55,620 --> 01:30:57,690
Unknown: And I'm so glad that
we're bringing attention to

1620
01:30:57,690 --> 01:31:01,350
this. So yes, Julian, like you
said menopause is

1621
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,020
Adam Curry: give us a newborn's
getting the more.

1622
01:31:04,500 --> 01:31:07,020
Unknown: We're talking about it
more thankfully. Finally, I know

1623
01:31:07,020 --> 01:31:11,280
that this also applies to women
in their 40s which is really the

1624
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:15,570
simplest way of when we say
perimenopause, Peri menopause,

1625
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,560
is the time in your 40s or even
late 30s When your hormones

1626
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:23,610
start to change, and you start
transitioning towards menopause,

1627
01:31:23,610 --> 01:31:27,180
but it can last a decade. So
really, I'm talking about women

1628
01:31:27,180 --> 01:31:29,040
in their 40s and 50s should
listen to

1629
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:31,560
Adam Curry: this really need to
get on this stuff in your 40s

1630
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:35,580
Because you know, you know when
you turn 40 And you know stuff

1631
01:31:35,580 --> 01:31:38,670
starts to slip and you get a
little pudgy. Give me this will

1632
01:31:38,670 --> 01:31:43,260
help with your menopause. These
people are ghouls. This is evil.

1633
01:31:44,490 --> 01:31:48,660
And we need to as you say outlaw
advertising of pharmaceutical

1634
01:31:48,660 --> 01:31:49,740
products to consider

1635
01:31:49,740 --> 01:31:51,660
John C Dvorak: that would
include Native Ads. Ah,

1636
01:31:52,020 --> 01:31:53,490
Adam Curry: disgusting.

1637
01:31:56,820 --> 01:31:58,170
John C Dvorak: Spending dilemma

1638
01:31:58,290 --> 01:32:02,790
Adam Curry: lip I give the I I
defer the rest of my time to the

1639
01:32:02,790 --> 01:32:06,810
gentleman from Berkeley.
Spending dilemma. Let me see.

1640
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,240
Oh, this looks interesting. Is

1641
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,000
Unknown: America heading toward
a debt disaster? What is

1642
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,460
Congress doing about the
nation's increasing

1643
01:32:14,460 --> 01:32:17,730
indebtedness? The house
discusses the problem one

1644
01:32:17,730 --> 01:32:20,880
lawmakers saying the damage will
be catastrophic and

1645
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:25,080
irrepairable. Virginia Gibson
has more. This is

1646
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:28,320
our generations World War. It's
a problem of historic

1647
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:29,130
proportions.

1648
01:32:29,190 --> 01:32:32,550
The most important and
incredible threat to the

1649
01:32:32,550 --> 01:32:34,710
Republicans we know it continued

1650
01:32:34,740 --> 01:32:36,720
act inaction will prove
disastrous

1651
01:32:36,750 --> 01:32:40,680
America's national debt it
continues to surge nonstop as

1652
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,430
Congress continues borrowing to
spend the end result could be

1653
01:32:44,460 --> 01:32:48,420
economic calamity for future
generations. The House Budget

1654
01:32:48,420 --> 01:32:51,690
Committee discussed the urgency
of the issue Wednesday,

1655
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,570
the only people that can fix
this is the United States

1656
01:32:54,570 --> 01:32:58,500
Congress. And difficulty United
States Congress is going to be

1657
01:32:58,500 --> 01:33:01,620
willing to do this is laughable

1658
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,950
lawmaker Steve Womack says
Congress has done nothing to

1659
01:33:04,950 --> 01:33:08,040
address this issue. He says the
big problem is that no

1660
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,520
politician wants to cut the
biggest sources of spending

1661
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:15,690
entitlement programs in
particular social security,

1662
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,560
health care, Income Security and
Medicare cutting these things

1663
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,320
will be unpopular with voters.
This is

1664
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,680
Adam Curry: great. By the way,
this is great

1665
01:33:25,710 --> 01:33:29,070
John C Dvorak: social security
as a separate fund or supposed

1666
01:33:29,070 --> 01:33:34,380
to be because if you look at
your you get a your check stub,

1667
01:33:34,380 --> 01:33:39,840
it shows you the deductions you
get your taxes to pick up and

1668
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,720
then it has Social Security
separate this is supposed to be

1669
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,750
kept separate to the fact that
they're stealing the Social

1670
01:33:45,750 --> 01:33:50,250
Security. In other words, it's
just another part of the tax is

1671
01:33:50,250 --> 01:33:53,370
unconscionable. And nobody has
done anything to stop that.

1672
01:33:54,420 --> 01:33:55,980
Adam Curry: You're getting mad
about this.

1673
01:33:57,090 --> 01:34:00,300
John C Dvorak: No, I'm I'm well,
I've been mad about it. Yeah.

1674
01:34:00,690 --> 01:34:04,410
It's like it's a scam. And
they're taking this money right

1675
01:34:04,410 --> 01:34:07,230
now. We're finally at the point
it took a long time. But we got

1676
01:34:07,230 --> 01:34:10,320
to the point where we're taking
in less money than we're

1677
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,100
borrowing on a yearly basis is I
think 115%

1678
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,550
Adam Curry: is what we're
recording but not according to

1679
01:34:17,550 --> 01:34:21,360
Janet Yellen. By the way. She
says that's fake news. Everybody

1680
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,130
John C Dvorak: says it except
her. They're

1681
01:34:23,130 --> 01:34:24,240
Adam Curry: just the best part.

1682
01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:27,000
John C Dvorak: She's dealing
money left and right and then

1683
01:34:27,030 --> 01:34:30,750
that's why it's interesting
about they want to add $1,000 to

1684
01:34:30,780 --> 01:34:36,120
Medicare, you know, a month to
these people to pay for it for

1685
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:41,040
their shots. $1,000 shot which
is book bogus. And the other

1686
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,800
point is is that if they put in
an enforcement agency and

1687
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:47,190
Medicare they could cut the
probably the budget in half for

1688
01:34:47,190 --> 01:34:50,310
that, do you because there's so
much scamming going on?

1689
01:34:51,060 --> 01:34:53,610
Adam Curry: Well, this is the
biggest scam is this.

1690
01:34:54,060 --> 01:34:56,880
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's one
it's probably pales by

1691
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,980
comparison, but it's continue

1692
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,370
Unknown: and politics Didn't
need votes to stay in power, the

1693
01:35:02,370 --> 01:35:06,510
debt is so high interest
payments themselves take up 16%

1694
01:35:06,510 --> 01:35:07,830
of spending interest is

1695
01:35:07,830 --> 01:35:12,810
crowding out all of our
discretionary programs. Interest

1696
01:35:12,810 --> 01:35:16,830
is certainly crowding out
defense, my colleague on that

1697
01:35:16,830 --> 01:35:19,770
subcommittee and I both see that
every single day. And it's

1698
01:35:19,770 --> 01:35:22,200
certainly happening on the non
defense side, one

1699
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:25,200
possible ray of hope, a fiscal
commission, we need an

1700
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:29,670
outside group of experts to
audit the pension to help us

1701
01:35:29,670 --> 01:35:32,940
understand what the Absolute
Truth is, the commission

1702
01:35:32,940 --> 01:35:35,970
would analyze the economic
situation and then provide

1703
01:35:35,970 --> 01:35:38,160
recommendations to Congress put

1704
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:41,700
Adam Curry: John and Adam on
another waste of money put us on

1705
01:35:41,700 --> 01:35:44,220
this, this would be fun we could
do we could have fun with this

1706
01:35:44,220 --> 01:35:44,850
commission.

1707
01:35:45,210 --> 01:35:47,460
John C Dvorak: So they don't
want to audit the Pentagon,

1708
01:35:47,460 --> 01:35:50,010
which is obviously a source of
waste. There's all kinds of

1709
01:35:50,010 --> 01:35:52,260
waste going on. This guy's
bitching about the fact that our

1710
01:35:52,260 --> 01:35:56,190
interest is overtaking the
military budget, which is

1711
01:35:56,250 --> 01:36:00,330
bloated. I will finish I love

1712
01:36:00,330 --> 01:36:03,240
Unknown: it. But fiscal
commission may not be the magic

1713
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:08,100
potion as the chairman had said.
And it may fail. It may. But we

1714
01:36:08,100 --> 01:36:09,720
cannot stop trying

1715
01:36:09,750 --> 01:36:12,750
lawmaker Bill who is Inga
believes this commission would

1716
01:36:12,750 --> 01:36:16,020
be the most practical and
immediate way Congress can break

1717
01:36:16,020 --> 01:36:19,470
the status quo. unclear how
Congress would react to

1718
01:36:19,470 --> 01:36:21,990
recommendations from such a
commission by

1719
01:36:21,990 --> 01:36:25,050
Adam Curry: clutching their
pearls. The curry Devora

1720
01:36:25,050 --> 01:36:28,560
commission I can see it already
John's work will be taken will

1721
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:34,440
be taken private jets around the
country. Check everything out.

1722
01:36:34,470 --> 01:36:39,720
Yeah, check everything out, you
know? Well, it's obvious. It's

1723
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:42,150
obvious where they're gonna get
it from. It's from a carbon tax.

1724
01:36:42,150 --> 01:36:43,980
That is the global ideal. That's

1725
01:36:43,980 --> 01:36:45,300
John C Dvorak: what they're
hoping for. You're right.

1726
01:36:45,330 --> 01:36:47,790
Adam Curry: Wow, that's it's
more than just what they're

1727
01:36:47,790 --> 01:36:51,570
hoping for. I mean, they're
really starting to push this.

1728
01:36:52,740 --> 01:36:55,950
John C Dvorak: But the pot, the
pot, where the carbon tax money

1729
01:36:55,950 --> 01:37:00,540
goes is going to be the UN. It's
not going to go to to the world

1730
01:37:00,540 --> 01:37:01,560
go V shots.

1731
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:08,550
Adam Curry: They have a Well,
you're right. It's gonna go to

1732
01:37:08,550 --> 01:37:12,600
the UN. And they're already
setting it up. They have there's

1733
01:37:12,630 --> 01:37:15,660
there's even an organization for
this. What is this organization

1734
01:37:15,660 --> 01:37:21,600
called? It's the the Tax Justice
Network put justice in anything

1735
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,010
and you're good to go. Yeah,
just this

1736
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,820
Unknown: last week, country.
Justice. I didn't nations voted

1737
01:37:26,820 --> 01:37:30,600
for the organization to take a
greater role in international

1738
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:34,260
tax matters. The move is
perceived as a threat to the

1739
01:37:34,260 --> 01:37:38,340
ascendancy of the OECD the body
that has led these discussions

1740
01:37:38,340 --> 01:37:42,660
for decades, countries that the
UN adopted a resolution to begin

1741
01:37:42,660 --> 01:37:46,140
the process of establishing a
framework convention on tax and

1742
01:37:46,350 --> 01:37:50,400
completely change how global tax
rules are decided. The

1743
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:53,790
resolution was led primarily by
African member states and could

1744
01:37:53,790 --> 01:37:57,810
eventually move decision making
on global tax rules from the

1745
01:37:57,810 --> 01:38:03,420
OECD, a club of developed
countries to the UN, yes,

1746
01:38:03,690 --> 01:38:05,760
Adam Curry: you're spot on, and
it will be moved to the United

1747
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,670
Nations. And because Africa is
involved with it, that means

1748
01:38:08,670 --> 01:38:13,890
it's a carbon tax. And I have
the details here I have the

1749
01:38:13,890 --> 01:38:20,280
actual numbers from France 24 As
climate finance or as we in the

1750
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:24,630
business, a climate finance is
on the agenda for cop 28, which

1751
01:38:24,630 --> 01:38:25,680
is kicking off

1752
01:38:25,710 --> 01:38:28,080
Unknown: climate finance, it's
going to be one of the items

1753
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,750
that are really at the top of
the agenda, the cop 28 at taking

1754
01:38:30,750 --> 01:38:33,000
place, of course in the United
Arab Emirates, as you said

1755
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:37,350
participants trying to find an
agreement on a target to fix and

1756
01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:39,480
Shaun Pellegrino is here to tell
us more sharp

1757
01:38:39,540 --> 01:38:41,970
That's right. This is a huge
topic of conversation that

1758
01:38:41,970 --> 01:38:44,700
covers many different sectors
areas, whether it's clean

1759
01:38:44,700 --> 01:38:48,330
energy, investments, or spending
on climate resilient

1760
01:38:48,810 --> 01:38:54,270
infrastructure. And at COP 21 in
Paris in 2015 richer countries

1761
01:38:54,540 --> 01:38:58,890
agreed that they should help
poor countries that are more

1762
01:38:58,890 --> 01:39:03,150
vulnerable to the climate chaos
caused by the carbon emissions

1763
01:39:03,180 --> 01:39:07,350
of developed economies. Well,
the commitment that was agreed

1764
01:39:07,350 --> 01:39:11,520
on by these developed countries
in successive climate talks was

1765
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:17,460
of $100 billion per year in
climate assistance by 2020. But

1766
01:39:17,460 --> 01:39:20,910
wait a goal that was missed for
several years and that might

1767
01:39:20,910 --> 01:39:23,970
finally actually have been
reached this year. But the needs

1768
01:39:24,090 --> 01:39:28,350
are so much bigger than that
number. estimates of how much is

1769
01:39:28,350 --> 01:39:32,550
needed by emerging markets and
developing countries in order to

1770
01:39:32,550 --> 01:39:37,440
keep global warming under the
set target of two degrees, while

1771
01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:43,470
they're much higher by 20 $31
trillion. will be needed

1772
01:39:43,500 --> 01:39:45,000
annually in external

1773
01:39:45,060 --> 01:39:48,270
John C Dvorak: what's right what
happened to 1.5 degrees Shut

1774
01:39:48,270 --> 01:39:48,600
Adam Curry: up

1775
01:39:48,630 --> 01:39:54,810
Unknown: tire by 20 $31 trillion
will be needed annually.

1776
01:39:55,080 --> 01:40:00,000
external assistance and total
spending for these countries.

1777
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,740
would actually be much higher
than that around $2.4 trillion.

1778
01:40:07,259 --> 01:40:09,749
Adam Curry: Shut up and listen,
because you don't know what

1779
01:40:09,749 --> 01:40:14,519
you're talking about. You stupid
plebs. They need a trillion

1780
01:40:14,519 --> 01:40:18,299
dollars a year, but really $2.7
trillion a year, they're going

1781
01:40:18,299 --> 01:40:21,929
to steal it from everybody. And
we're going to be living in

1782
01:40:21,929 --> 01:40:27,059
cardboard boxes. It's
unbelievable that needs we need

1783
01:40:27,059 --> 01:40:32,519
to revolt, the revolution. And
of course, this is exactly what

1784
01:40:32,939 --> 01:40:37,409
Donald Trump is proud former
President Trump is saying is not

1785
01:40:37,469 --> 01:40:40,589
I gotta I gotta get in here
because everyone's crazy.

1786
01:40:40,859 --> 01:40:42,239
They've all gone nuts they

1787
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,730
John C Dvorak: apparently are if
they're gonna pull if they was

1788
01:40:44,730 --> 01:40:46,020
buying into this.

1789
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,590
Adam Curry: So now that Trump
once again is on the scene

1790
01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:54,180
talking sense as witnessed by
many people who are starting to

1791
01:40:54,180 --> 01:40:58,500
say oh well you know, before I
continue I have to have to read

1792
01:40:58,500 --> 01:41:01,920
this boots on the remember the
Amazon engineer who told us that

1793
01:41:02,130 --> 01:41:05,850
the rivian deal that Amazon did
with all their delivery for with

1794
01:41:05,850 --> 01:41:09,600
these rivian pickup trucks that
they can have them you know, the

1795
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,150
charging station that stuff is
blowing up these things are

1796
01:41:12,150 --> 01:41:16,320
catching on fire. So listen to
this latest update from our

1797
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:19,590
Amazon engineer boots on the
ground because of power

1798
01:41:19,590 --> 01:41:24,120
generation issues at the power
companies. Amazon is now using

1799
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:27,510
diesel power generators to power
the vehicle chargers

1800
01:41:32,610 --> 01:41:37,560
Oh I love it. That's so good. So
Trump is is is this is the one

1801
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,590
speech that he did that
everyone's up in arms over at

1802
01:41:40,590 --> 01:41:44,760
least is being used to clutch
pearls This is where he said

1803
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:48,150
these vermin have gotta go which
when you listen vermin speech,

1804
01:41:48,180 --> 01:41:52,590
when the now known as the heaven
forbid you use the word vermin.

1805
01:41:52,620 --> 01:41:57,420
Well, it's much worse. Because
over there at NPR on the media

1806
01:41:57,450 --> 01:42:01,560
my they did a midweek show they
have to do a special edition in

1807
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:06,060
between shows, with Brooke,
Gladys Gus the word vermin. Oh,

1808
01:42:06,090 --> 01:42:11,820
no, not just the word vermin the
entire speech. Jeff Charlotte,

1809
01:42:12,270 --> 01:42:18,150
who is the author of under tow,
seems from a slow civil war has

1810
01:42:18,150 --> 01:42:22,140
been around the country. He's
been around the country. He has

1811
01:42:22,140 --> 01:42:25,560
talked to everybody. And he
called him and he comes back and

1812
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:30,150
he lets us know that because of
Trump and Trumpism we are in the

1813
01:42:30,150 --> 01:42:35,070
midst of a slow civil war. And
this is all based upon an

1814
01:42:35,070 --> 01:42:39,540
analysis of Trump's vermin
speech, also known as the post

1815
01:42:39,540 --> 01:42:44,670
indictment speech. And I had
people would start clipping this

1816
01:42:44,670 --> 01:42:48,240
for me and I'd already clipped
it. This is how unhinged

1817
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:53,340
deranged This is from our
national treasure known as NPR.

1818
01:42:53,460 --> 01:42:54,030
His

1819
01:42:54,060 --> 01:42:57,630
Unknown: post indictment speaks
last Saturday of a record crowd

1820
01:42:57,630 --> 01:43:00,870
here today. So that's
represented a turning point in

1821
01:43:00,870 --> 01:43:03,990
his rhetoric. He was talking
about the final battle which

1822
01:43:03,990 --> 01:43:04,680
he's been doing.

1823
01:43:04,740 --> 01:43:07,710
This is the final battles. This
is the most important election

1824
01:43:07,710 --> 01:43:08,490
we've ever had.

1825
01:43:08,610 --> 01:43:11,040
But then there was another
element to speaking of

1826
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:14,490
Obliteration, he saying, not
only is there a risk of world

1827
01:43:14,490 --> 01:43:19,440
war three, there will absolutely
be World War Three and less I am

1828
01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:20,670
returned to power,

1829
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:24,840
I will prevent world war three,
I will prevent it. And now

1830
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:25,530
people believe

1831
01:43:27,180 --> 01:43:29,850
Adam Curry: this is what I love
about this entire analysis. They

1832
01:43:29,850 --> 01:43:34,890
put words in his mouth over and
over again. He didn't say there

1833
01:43:34,890 --> 01:43:38,700
will be World War Three unless
I'm returned to power. He didn't

1834
01:43:38,700 --> 01:43:40,260
say that absolutely

1835
01:43:40,260 --> 01:43:44,220
Unknown: be World War Three.
Unless I am returned to power. I

1836
01:43:44,220 --> 01:43:48,420
will prevent world war three. I
will prevent it and now people

1837
01:43:48,420 --> 01:43:49,620
believe he

1838
01:43:49,620 --> 01:43:53,940
said the same thing in the
speech that just preceded

1839
01:43:53,940 --> 01:43:57,390
January 6. He said you lied.

1840
01:43:58,650 --> 01:44:03,600
John C Dvorak: So she basically
contradicts the basic thesis of

1841
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:07,140
the guy because the guy said
things have changed. He's got

1842
01:44:07,140 --> 01:44:12,750
new rhetoric. And so she comes
out and by the way, he said the

1843
01:44:12,750 --> 01:44:15,780
same thing back and I've
listened to a lot of his

1844
01:44:15,780 --> 01:44:18,150
speeches. I don't listen to much
of them anymore. They haven't

1845
01:44:18,150 --> 01:44:22,680
changed. He goes up there does a
bunch of he does a Buck. Buck 15

1846
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:27,450
Buck 30 of stick hilariously the
same interchangeable material

1847
01:44:27,450 --> 01:44:28,260
and boom,

1848
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:32,400
Adam Curry: no, no, this is this
is something is changed. Now. We

1849
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,790
have to be very afraid of this
war mongering Jew hater

1850
01:44:35,820 --> 01:44:39,990
Unknown: that just preceded
January 6. He said you have to

1851
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:42,900
fight as hard as you can or you
won't have a country.

1852
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,750
Oh no, that's not the same
thing. When he means world war

1853
01:44:45,750 --> 01:44:47,820
three. He's not talking about
not having countries talking

1854
01:44:47,820 --> 01:44:49,260
about nuclear obliteration.

1855
01:44:49,290 --> 01:44:52,920
This won't be a conventional war
with army tanks going back and

1856
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,890
forth shooting each other this
will be nuclear war. This will

1857
01:44:55,890 --> 01:45:01,080
be Obliteration, perhaps
obliteration of the Tire world I

1858
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,990
will prevent it nobody else can
say that

1859
01:45:04,110 --> 01:45:07,920
I alone can stop it right which
is of course a classic a fascist

1860
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:08,400
rhetoric

1861
01:45:08,430 --> 01:45:12,600
John C Dvorak: he didn't say he
never said I alone but

1862
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:15,510
Adam Curry: this is how these
people hear it this is what's so

1863
01:45:15,510 --> 01:45:17,280
fascinating about this is

1864
01:45:17,310 --> 01:45:19,440
John C Dvorak: beauty right
because this is exactly what

1865
01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:22,110
they're hearing and then you
talk to the liberals in the

1866
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:26,760
anywhere you are and you're
going to they all hear is it's

1867
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,520
the dimension thing again
they're they're living in a in a

1868
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:32,100
different dimension they're
hearing different things yes,

1869
01:45:32,130 --> 01:45:34,980
Unknown: it's the Democrats are
just gonna fire off a nuke for

1870
01:45:34,980 --> 01:45:35,700
no reason.

1871
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:39,810
Adam Curry: So now they've heard
that the Democrats are going to

1872
01:45:39,810 --> 01:45:41,520
fire off a nuke for no reason

1873
01:45:41,550 --> 01:45:44,610
Unknown: yeah, I think that is
how it's being heard that we are

1874
01:45:44,610 --> 01:45:49,590
very close to me by you clear
war with Russia that He alone

1875
01:45:49,590 --> 01:45:52,740
can stop it but it's even more
abstract than that right so when

1876
01:45:52,740 --> 01:45:53,940
he says at the

1877
01:45:53,940 --> 01:45:59,520
end of the day are the the
communists when destroy America

1878
01:46:00,150 --> 01:46:04,350
or we destroy the communists
because that's what they are

1879
01:46:04,380 --> 01:46:07,740
they may go by a different name.
Fascists

1880
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:11,160
Marxists to opens and closes the
speech was some kind of classic

1881
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:13,980
anti semitism talking about
globalist and Marxist

1882
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:21,270
Adam Curry: I love it. He's a
Jew hater. Classic anti Semite

1883
01:46:21,300 --> 01:46:23,940
talking about communists and
Marxists.

1884
01:46:25,140 --> 01:46:27,960
John C Dvorak: So if you bitch
about Marxism, you're a Jew

1885
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:32,790
hater. Correct? He's expanding
Marx was marked by the way was

1886
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:37,440
an admitted atheist. Okay, let's
destroy

1887
01:46:37,470 --> 01:46:42,450
Adam Curry: Exactly, exactly but
no, no, no, no. This is the new

1888
01:46:42,450 --> 01:46:44,460
anti Semite is the face of Jew
hate.

1889
01:46:44,490 --> 01:46:48,420
Unknown: They are they may go by
a different name. Fascists

1890
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,810
Marxists to opens and closes the
speech was some kind of classic

1891
01:46:51,810 --> 01:46:55,380
anti semitism talking about
globalists and Marxists. He's

1892
01:46:55,380 --> 01:46:59,430
expanded and say globalists
ending the potent conspiracism

1893
01:46:59,430 --> 01:47:01,980
of anti semitism. So that
applies to all of his enemies.

1894
01:47:01,980 --> 01:47:06,270
But lest anyone be confused, he
doubles down in the middle by

1895
01:47:06,270 --> 01:47:07,680
talking about Jack Smith,

1896
01:47:07,710 --> 01:47:10,200
the special counsel who indicted
him Jack

1897
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:12,990
Smith, what do you think his
name used to be? I don't know to

1898
01:47:12,990 --> 01:47:15,570
say anybody, Jackson. Sounds so
innocent.

1899
01:47:15,990 --> 01:47:19,470
What is his original name?
What's his real name? It's Jack

1900
01:47:19,470 --> 01:47:24,240
Smith. But it couldn't be that
sounds so innocent. By which

1901
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:26,760
means it sounds so. All
American. Wait.

1902
01:47:27,660 --> 01:47:32,340
Adam Curry: Oh, I see. So when
you say that, then you're you

1903
01:47:32,340 --> 01:47:35,970
can't be one of us. He can't be
one of us whities? No, no, no,

1904
01:47:35,970 --> 01:47:38,130
no. Let's get back to the juicy
stuff.

1905
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,590
Unknown: And then at the end,
and this was new, right? He

1906
01:47:40,590 --> 01:47:41,850
said, We will drive

1907
01:47:41,850 --> 01:47:47,400
out to gloveless. We will cast
out the communists, we will

1908
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:51,720
throw off the sick political
class that hates our country and

1909
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:53,610
wants to destroy our country.

1910
01:47:53,700 --> 01:47:56,730
This is a reference to driving
out the money changes, Jesus

1911
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:58,380
driving changes. And

1912
01:48:00,180 --> 01:48:04,350
Adam Curry: this isn't my
favorite. This is a reference to

1913
01:48:04,350 --> 01:48:08,160
Jesus driving out the money
changers, you know, the Jews.

1914
01:48:10,170 --> 01:48:14,010
These people are sick, wow, this
is a sickness. This is a real

1915
01:48:14,010 --> 01:48:14,820
sick, wants

1916
01:48:14,820 --> 01:48:16,770
Unknown: to destroy our country.
This

1917
01:48:16,770 --> 01:48:20,010
is a reference to driving out
the money changes Jesus driving

1918
01:48:20,010 --> 01:48:23,010
out the money changes and to
make sure you don't miss it. He

1919
01:48:23,010 --> 01:48:26,280
refers the speech writer, I
should say, refers to both the

1920
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:29,880
Gospel of John and the Gospel of
Matthew. The money changers

1921
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:34,530
historically, in anti semitism
are understood as the Jews, but

1922
01:48:34,530 --> 01:48:38,670
in this moment, it's understood
as the enemy and the enemy is

1923
01:48:38,790 --> 01:48:41,850
it's Jack Smith. It's whoever is
on the other side.

1924
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:46,080
That's interesting rather than
cast the Jew as enemy. That's

1925
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:50,340
the tradition. Yeah, here that's
already assumed. And so you cast

1926
01:48:50,370 --> 01:48:53,520
the enemy, whoever that may be
as Jews

1927
01:48:55,260 --> 01:48:58,080
Adam Curry: helped me help me
understand how they get how they

1928
01:48:58,080 --> 01:48:59,460
come to this conclusion.

1929
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:04,290
John C Dvorak: I have no no
clue. It weird. Now

1930
01:49:04,290 --> 01:49:07,500
Adam Curry: that they're ill
This is mental illness, total

1931
01:49:07,500 --> 01:49:08,100
mental,

1932
01:49:08,580 --> 01:49:12,180
Unknown: that you becomes
metaphor. And he's got plausible

1933
01:49:12,210 --> 01:49:15,720
deniability because of course,
there are enough right wing

1934
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:19,080
Jews. Maybe he's not saying any
of it. No Miller, who was

1935
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:22,230
Jewish, wrote that speech for
him and has not been shy of

1936
01:49:22,230 --> 01:49:25,770
using that language before. So
we can say this isn't about Jews

1937
01:49:25,770 --> 01:49:30,900
in a way for Trump. It's really
not his enemy, daughters Jewish.

1938
01:49:30,930 --> 01:49:35,940
So as Miller ever is against him
in his power, and then since

1939
01:49:35,940 --> 01:49:39,330
he's become proxy, when I go out
and I speak to everyday people,

1940
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,970
they see him as a martyr. Oh,

1941
01:49:41,970 --> 01:49:44,250
Adam Curry: he's a martyr. Now
let's talk about martyrs for a

1942
01:49:44,250 --> 01:49:47,310
second. Because now we need to
take it's not just Trump, but

1943
01:49:47,310 --> 01:49:53,100
all the crazy people who are for
Trump. Yes, they're really dare

1944
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:56,520
I say racists, they hate black
people. Black people are

1945
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:58,050
dangerous to Trump.

1946
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:02,760
Unknown: So you say that Trump
has always strived to create

1947
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:07,890
martyrs back in 2017 when he was
president. He said that the

1948
01:50:07,890 --> 01:50:12,750
wounded GOP Congressman Steve
Scalise took a bullet for all of

1949
01:50:12,750 --> 01:50:17,130
us when he was shot in the hip
by someone who professed to be a

1950
01:50:17,130 --> 01:50:18,660
Trump hater. He

1951
01:50:18,660 --> 01:50:21,360
Adam Curry: wasn't a Trump
hater. I don't think that guy

1952
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:24,450
was a Trump hater, but he was a
Republican hater. Yeah,

1953
01:50:24,450 --> 01:50:26,610
John C Dvorak: he hated all
Republicans. Trump wasn't even

1954
01:50:26,610 --> 01:50:30,930
worse. But yeah, yeah, but But
Luke Scalise didn't die so he

1955
01:50:30,930 --> 01:50:32,550
wasn't martyred no

1956
01:50:32,790 --> 01:50:36,030
Unknown: at a congressional
baseball practice. But you say

1957
01:50:36,030 --> 01:50:39,540
that Ashley Babbitt who was
killed as she stormed the US

1958
01:50:39,540 --> 01:50:44,430
Capitol on January 6 was quote,
processed made productive almost

1959
01:50:44,430 --> 01:50:48,210
immediately after her death
transformed right away into yet

1960
01:50:48,210 --> 01:50:52,890
another flag like a new tarot
card in the desert of lash ism

1961
01:50:54,420 --> 01:50:57,840
John C Dvorak: was flying out
Ashley Babbitt flag now she was

1962
01:50:57,840 --> 01:50:59,820
she wasn't killed she was
murdered.

1963
01:51:00,090 --> 01:51:02,190
Adam Curry: Oh you racist
processed

1964
01:51:02,190 --> 01:51:05,400
Unknown: made productive almost
immediately after her death

1965
01:51:05,550 --> 01:51:09,900
transformed right away and
talked about it now there. We

1966
01:51:09,900 --> 01:51:13,380
John C Dvorak: didn't even lie
this is this reporting is some

1967
01:51:13,380 --> 01:51:15,270
of the worst I've heard on NPR
for

1968
01:51:15,690 --> 01:51:18,330
Adam Curry: oh, the course par
for the course. We didn't even

1969
01:51:18,330 --> 01:51:24,120
know who shot her for I think
weeks and weeks took a long time

1970
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:26,820
before we before we knew who
shot her and that was and then

1971
01:51:26,820 --> 01:51:29,700
we heard it was an agent and you
know, it was a long time before

1972
01:51:29,700 --> 01:51:33,240
we knew the horrible truth John,
he was black

1973
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:36,270
Unknown: processed, made
productive almost immediately

1974
01:51:36,270 --> 01:51:40,560
after her death transformed
right away into yet another flag

1975
01:51:40,740 --> 01:51:46,110
like a new tarot card in the
deck of fascism where joy macro

1976
01:51:49,410 --> 01:51:52,200
John C Dvorak: gasm new taro
card in the deck of

1977
01:51:52,230 --> 01:51:55,530
Adam Curry: fascism and when
listened to watch it now she she

1978
01:51:55,530 --> 01:51:55,800
says

1979
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:58,350
John C Dvorak: these guys think
they they really think they're

1980
01:51:59,220 --> 01:52:02,130
poets poets, sort of poetry
babies poetry

1981
01:52:02,130 --> 01:52:07,380
Unknown: tarot card in the deck
of fascism. Were joined Gadsden,

1982
01:52:07,410 --> 01:52:09,120
the coiled snake on yet

1983
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:10,260
Adam Curry: isn't a Gadson?

1984
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:15,810
John C Dvorak: Not gaslit as she
says, I think it is gas is gas I

1985
01:52:15,810 --> 01:52:19,200
Adam Curry: thought it was
Gadson. She Gadson yeah but she

1986
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:23,700
says Gaston. what a what a dope
deck

1987
01:52:23,700 --> 01:52:29,340
Unknown: of fire. Listen, were
joined Gadsden, the coiled snake

1988
01:52:29,340 --> 01:52:32,490
on yellow and the blue lives
matter flag.

1989
01:52:32,820 --> 01:52:37,170
When I saw Ashley Babbitt white
woman led a mob climbed up to a

1990
01:52:37,170 --> 01:52:40,020
broken window and on Capitol
Hill police officer shot her and

1991
01:52:40,020 --> 01:52:43,290
killed her as we saw only the
hands of the officer and as a

1992
01:52:43,290 --> 01:52:46,290
black man and I understood
immediately as a student of

1993
01:52:46,350 --> 01:52:50,550
merican mythology and history.
This is the lynching story.

1994
01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:55,440
innocent white womanhood killed
by a black man this is this is

1995
01:52:55,440 --> 01:52:58,110
the template of Hollywood you go
back to the Birth of a Nation

1996
01:52:58,110 --> 01:53:02,130
one of the most influential
movies of all time. 1915 Based

1997
01:53:02,130 --> 01:53:04,890
on a novel called The Klansmen.
It's a positive story about the

1998
01:53:04,890 --> 01:53:08,670
Ku Klux Klan and white woman
flees from a dangerous black man

1999
01:53:08,670 --> 01:53:11,910
and jumps over a cliff and dies
and thus the Klan must ride to

2000
01:53:11,910 --> 01:53:15,630
Avenger Ashley Babbitt was such
a productive martyr because

2001
01:53:15,660 --> 01:53:19,860
she's wearing an American flag
outfit kind of She's the only

2002
01:53:19,860 --> 01:53:23,610
woman in this crowd but she's
really fierce and tough. She's

2003
01:53:23,610 --> 01:53:26,940
also a veteran and I started
traveling around the country

2004
01:53:26,970 --> 01:53:31,080
watching the myth information
who actually bad it was doesn't

2005
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:31,920
matter to them.

2006
01:53:32,970 --> 01:53:36,000
Adam Curry: I mean, this is so
racist. So

2007
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:41,160
John C Dvorak: oh, I'm gonna use
a modern word it's just racist

2008
01:53:41,700 --> 01:53:46,020
word it this is the kind of left
leaning racism that just

2009
01:53:46,020 --> 01:53:49,140
permeates the Democrat Party
right now it's just completely

2010
01:53:49,140 --> 01:53:52,800
out of control in this this
interpretation of one of his

2011
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:55,590
many speeches which are all
pretty much the same if you've

2012
01:53:55,590 --> 01:54:00,270
seen one you've seen most of
them is it's onerous and then

2013
01:54:00,270 --> 01:54:04,500
they come up with all this crazy
you know, the tarot card in the

2014
01:54:04,500 --> 01:54:08,370
deck of fascism and all these
other things. It's ridiculous

2015
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:10,470
how can use embarrassed How

2016
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:13,260
Adam Curry: can you have a tarot
card in the deck of racism with

2017
01:54:13,260 --> 01:54:16,980
the same time you're referring
to Jesus kicking out the money

2018
01:54:16,980 --> 01:54:18,540
John C Dvorak: Jacob's fascism
Yeah.

2019
01:54:20,940 --> 01:54:24,330
Adam Curry: So now Now of
course, you have to understand

2020
01:54:24,480 --> 01:54:28,410
that Ashley Babbitt she's a
perfect martyr for this you know

2021
01:54:28,410 --> 01:54:31,950
as Hollywood mainly a left
leaning outfit there Hollywood

2022
01:54:32,130 --> 01:54:36,390
as they created this this
beautiful No Oh, no black man

2023
01:54:36,390 --> 01:54:39,510
kills white woman horrible. Oh,
yes. This is what we hate in

2024
01:54:39,510 --> 01:54:41,310
America. Go Trump given all

2025
01:54:41,310 --> 01:54:44,760
Unknown: the mythmaking about
Ashley. You looked into her life

2026
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:47,220
and what did you find? Oh boy.
She documented

2027
01:54:47,220 --> 01:54:51,420
her life very extensively. 8000
tweets she made a lot of videos

2028
01:54:51,450 --> 01:54:51,810
that's

2029
01:54:51,810 --> 01:54:53,940
Adam Curry: documenting your
life alright, isn't it the

2030
01:54:53,970 --> 01:54:56,220
Twitter that's a documenting of
my life?

2031
01:54:56,250 --> 01:54:59,370
Unknown: I found someone I think
would surprise a lot of people

2032
01:54:59,370 --> 01:55:02,550
actually bad A bit from Deep
Blue Southern California kind of

2033
01:55:02,580 --> 01:55:06,810
a beach person. Votes for Obama
twice thinks he's the best

2034
01:55:06,810 --> 01:55:08,370
president ever. So

2035
01:55:08,370 --> 01:55:11,760
how did she get from there to
here? What was the turning dead?

2036
01:55:11,790 --> 01:55:14,220
Adam Curry: What do you think
the turning point was? How does

2037
01:55:14,220 --> 01:55:18,060
she get from there to dead? I
mean here, Brooke Gladstone. Oh,

2038
01:55:18,060 --> 01:55:19,140
let's find out.

2039
01:55:19,230 --> 01:55:21,510
Unknown: She talks about a
houseless man in Southern

2040
01:55:21,510 --> 01:55:22,710
California. houseless.

2041
01:55:22,710 --> 01:55:25,710
Adam Curry: Man. Oh, boy. We
can't even say homeless anymore.

2042
01:55:25,860 --> 01:55:29,790
He's a houseless man. houseless
man houseless. Man, let's not

2043
01:55:29,790 --> 01:55:32,640
offend anybody doing this to all
renters

2044
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:34,740
John C Dvorak: in the United
States are houseless men. That's

2045
01:55:34,740 --> 01:55:37,470
Unknown: correct. She talks
about a houseless man in

2046
01:55:37,470 --> 01:55:40,980
Southern California dedicating
on her front lawn and the

2047
01:55:40,980 --> 01:55:44,040
compassion she's trying to have
in her life. She just says To

2048
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:47,760
hell with it. And Trump is right
there with this stuff.

2049
01:55:48,510 --> 01:55:49,830
Adam Curry: He was right there
on

2050
01:55:49,830 --> 01:55:53,250
John C Dvorak: the right do this
anti poop message on the

2051
01:55:53,250 --> 01:55:53,790
sidewalk

2052
01:55:53,790 --> 01:55:57,210
Adam Curry: saying Ashley,
Ashley Bobbitt, I want you to be

2053
01:55:57,210 --> 01:55:58,170
with me

2054
01:55:59,460 --> 01:56:02,430
Unknown: is right there with
this story. You know what that

2055
01:56:02,430 --> 01:56:06,840
anger you feel? It's not anger.
It's love for your country. You

2056
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:09,600
don't have to swim against the
current give into the undertow.

2057
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,480
Let it take you out. Here's
white supremacy is ready to

2058
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:14,580
carry you. And now she's got

2059
01:56:14,610 --> 01:56:17,100
John C Dvorak: a lead on the
front yard and white supremacy

2060
01:56:17,100 --> 01:56:19,620
is all kind of the same thing.
If

2061
01:56:19,620 --> 01:56:22,140
Adam Curry: you have poop in the
front yard, just let White

2062
01:56:22,140 --> 01:56:26,040
supremacy carry you away into
utopia. This is the point that

2063
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:26,130
it

2064
01:56:26,130 --> 01:56:28,560
Unknown: takes you out. Here's
white supremacy is ready to

2065
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:32,250
carry you. And now she's got a
leader and she's got a

2066
01:56:32,250 --> 01:56:34,950
mythology. And it's so easy to
go with it. Oh,

2067
01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:39,360
John C Dvorak: my God, if you're
going to simplify it like that,

2068
01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:42,270
I guess it is easy to go with
it. Now. I bless you as a

2069
01:56:42,270 --> 01:56:45,510
leader. I have the last clip and
she has a mythology where you

2070
01:56:45,510 --> 01:56:48,660
can never really talks about the
mythology and mythology, the

2071
01:56:48,660 --> 01:56:50,850
myth Okay, I'm sorry, I
shouldn't be interrupting

2072
01:56:50,850 --> 01:56:54,540
anymore because I use can never
get this thing done. Playing

2073
01:56:54,570 --> 01:56:56,640
Adam Curry: this is just 39
seconds and we're over

2074
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:59,520
Unknown: speech Trump gave on
Saturday after the indictment.

2075
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,580
There's a key moment there where
he's talking about cutting taxes

2076
01:57:02,580 --> 01:57:05,310
and he gets cheers and then he
starts talking about Stop

2077
01:57:05,310 --> 01:57:08,040
John C Dvorak: man stop you
again. I just want to point out

2078
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:12,630
this this usage of after the
indictment after the indictments

2079
01:57:12,630 --> 01:57:16,320
just to keep reminding us if you
don't remember this, Trump is an

2080
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:19,650
indicted guy. Yes. indicted,
which means he's probably

2081
01:57:19,650 --> 01:57:23,550
guilty. It must be like a proven
innocent speech.

2082
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:26,160
Adam Curry: What are you talking
about? Stop that now. Do I need

2083
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:27,510
to play our buddy?

2084
01:57:28,710 --> 01:57:30,270
John C Dvorak: John Brennan?
Yes. Oh,

2085
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:35,400
Adam Curry: guilty. Whereas
it's, I should I should have I

2086
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:39,000
need to put this one. at the
ready. Yeah, I need to put

2087
01:57:39,690 --> 01:57:45,420
Brennan guilty. Here we go. This
is what they really are talking

2088
01:57:45,420 --> 01:57:45,660
about.

2089
01:57:45,660 --> 01:57:48,690
Unknown: People are innocent
until alleged to be involved in

2090
01:57:48,690 --> 01:57:49,650
some type of criminal activity.

2091
01:57:51,450 --> 01:57:53,430
Adam Curry: That's it. That's
the mantra right there. People

2092
01:57:53,430 --> 01:57:55,440
are innocent until they're
alleged to be involved in some

2093
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:57,960
kind of criminal activity
guilty. The speech

2094
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:00,690
Unknown: Trump gave on Saturday
after the indictment. There's a

2095
01:58:00,690 --> 01:58:03,570
key moment there where he's
talking about cutting taxes and

2096
01:58:03,570 --> 01:58:05,700
he gets cheers and then he
starts talking about what he

2097
01:58:05,700 --> 01:58:10,590
calls transgender craziness and
he gets huge steps back and I've

2098
01:58:10,590 --> 01:58:13,350
seen this moment in so many
Trump rallies he steps back. He

2099
01:58:13,350 --> 01:58:14,400
says Look at that.

2100
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:17,100
You say I'm talking about
cutting taxes. People go like

2101
01:58:17,100 --> 01:58:19,650
that. And he minds moderate
applause. I talk about

2102
01:58:19,650 --> 01:58:22,650
transgender everyone goes crazy.
Who would have thought five

2103
01:58:22,650 --> 01:58:24,030
years ago you didn't know what
the Hold on a

2104
01:58:24,030 --> 01:58:28,650
Adam Curry: second. He didn't
say transgender craziness. He

2105
01:58:28,650 --> 01:58:32,160
said I talk about transgender.
Everybody goes crazy. These

2106
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:35,070
people are literally hearing
things what he

2107
01:58:35,070 --> 01:58:38,190
Unknown: calls transgender
craziness and he gets huge two

2108
01:58:38,700 --> 01:58:41,910
steps back and I've seen this
man, right. So many Trump as he

2109
01:58:41,910 --> 01:58:45,000
steps back. He says Look at
that. You say I'm talking about

2110
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:47,730
cutting taxes. People go like
that, and he minds moderate

2111
01:58:47,730 --> 01:58:48,150
applause.

2112
01:58:48,420 --> 01:58:51,450
I talked about transgender
everyone goes crazy. Who would

2113
01:58:51,450 --> 01:58:53,250
have thought five years ago you
didn't know what the hell it

2114
01:58:53,250 --> 01:58:53,700
was.

2115
01:58:53,730 --> 01:58:58,200
This is how Trump uses rallies.
He is not a leader. He's riding

2116
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,630
this undertow. He is the one
saying is this where we're

2117
01:59:00,630 --> 01:59:03,300
going? He says five years ago,
nobody talked about it. Who

2118
01:59:03,300 --> 01:59:05,940
would have thought? Not him? But
he'll follow now.

2119
01:59:08,010 --> 01:59:09,900
Adam Curry: Your national
treasure ladies and gentlemen.

2120
01:59:10,020 --> 01:59:10,380
Okay,

2121
01:59:10,380 --> 01:59:12,030
John C Dvorak: we'll get a clip
of the day for that work.

2122
01:59:12,270 --> 01:59:13,980
Adam Curry: Oh, well, thank you.
It did take me a little bit of

2123
01:59:13,980 --> 01:59:20,460
time. Meanwhile, it must irk
these people to no end that Fox

2124
01:59:20,460 --> 01:59:24,990
News does stuff like this with
the Rhode Island co founder of

2125
01:59:24,990 --> 01:59:26,580
Black Lives Matter this

2126
01:59:27,690 --> 01:59:31,770
Unknown: day. Because it
identifies what I've seen in the

2127
01:59:31,770 --> 01:59:35,670
barber shop. All the brothers
for some reason right now are

2128
01:59:35,670 --> 01:59:38,700
turning ties right now. And I
just wonder what is the big

2129
01:59:38,700 --> 01:59:39,180
reason?

2130
01:59:41,220 --> 01:59:45,840
I think personally, it's the
duplicity of the Democrats. The

2131
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:49,800
hypocrisy. We're not stupid. The
brothers are not stupid. We

2132
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:52,950
understand when someone's for us
and when someone is not. And

2133
01:59:52,950 --> 01:59:58,140
it's obvious that the Democratic
Party is not for us. policies

2134
01:59:58,500 --> 02:00:01,230
actually strike at the heart of
the black Family and a nuclear

2135
02:00:01,230 --> 02:00:03,180
family. Yeah. So,

2136
02:00:03,390 --> 02:00:06,510
you know, you were part of Black
Lives Matter. You found it in

2137
02:00:06,540 --> 02:00:09,660
there. And now you're saying
you're not saying the entire

2138
02:00:09,660 --> 02:00:12,930
Republican Party. You're saying
Donald Trump. So what is it

2139
02:00:12,930 --> 02:00:16,890
about Donald Trump? Is it the
economics? You know, that the

2140
02:00:16,890 --> 02:00:21,870
black family? What is it gonna
take for him to share up this

2141
02:00:21,870 --> 02:00:24,720
support among black voters?
Well,

2142
02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:27,780
I did. I just think that it's
going to take information a lot

2143
02:00:27,780 --> 02:00:30,180
of people are misinformed. They
don't really understand because

2144
02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:33,810
they don't educate themselves on
on Donald Trump as a person and

2145
02:00:33,810 --> 02:00:36,750
his history. But if they do
that, and it's gonna take you

2146
02:00:36,750 --> 02:00:40,350
know, leaders educated leaders
getting the word out there. I

2147
02:00:40,350 --> 02:00:43,590
think that it'll happen on its
own, and it'll be organic,

2148
02:00:43,620 --> 02:00:46,410
because I'm, personally I love
them, man. I mean, how could you

2149
02:00:46,410 --> 02:00:50,850
not like, red man? How could you
not relate to someone like that?

2150
02:00:50,970 --> 02:00:52,260
Oh,

2151
02:00:52,260 --> 02:00:56,070
Adam Curry: we can't have that.
Oh, he's a racist. Don't you

2152
02:00:56,070 --> 02:00:56,790
know that?

2153
02:00:58,050 --> 02:01:01,710
John C Dvorak: Yeah. That guy's
going around. He's seems irked I

2154
02:01:01,710 --> 02:01:05,550
want to bring in some Nikki
Haley stuff here. Because Nikki

2155
02:01:05,550 --> 02:01:05,820
Hey,

2156
02:01:05,820 --> 02:01:07,170
Adam Curry: Ron Nimrod, Haley.

2157
02:01:07,500 --> 02:01:09,990
John C Dvorak: What's numerati?
Naming one that

2158
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:12,120
Adam Curry: was her real name.

2159
02:01:12,210 --> 02:01:14,070
John C Dvorak: She's the She's
the new op.

2160
02:01:14,130 --> 02:01:16,440
Adam Curry: I know. But what's
it what's her real name? If you

2161
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:17,610
had it last time? Oh,

2162
02:01:17,610 --> 02:01:20,340
John C Dvorak: yeah. It's gonna
make me Nimrod.

2163
02:01:20,370 --> 02:01:23,100
Adam Curry: I came up with
Nimrod. But I Yeah, Nimrods.

2164
02:01:23,100 --> 02:01:25,620
Good. I like Nimrod. We'll just
use Nimrod Haley.

2165
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:29,490
John C Dvorak: So she is being
promoted by a bunch of rich

2166
02:01:29,490 --> 02:01:35,970
guys. Yeah. Koch brothers. In
Silicon Valley, Republicans are

2167
02:01:36,270 --> 02:01:37,170
back here too.

2168
02:01:37,380 --> 02:01:39,780
Adam Curry: I think some oil
guys are back in her as well.

2169
02:01:40,410 --> 02:01:40,590
Yeah,

2170
02:01:40,590 --> 02:01:42,810
John C Dvorak: they're all back
in I don't know why. Well, I do

2171
02:01:42,810 --> 02:01:46,350
know why is because they don't
want Trump Yeah. But she's no

2172
02:01:46,350 --> 02:01:50,730
good. Named Murata. Murata,

2173
02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:53,640
Adam Curry: Murata. Nimrod,
exactly. named Mr. Otto for

2174
02:01:53,640 --> 02:01:58,020
sure. Yes. She's the new op.

2175
02:01:58,140 --> 02:02:00,120
John C Dvorak: I think she's
been that way for us ever since

2176
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:02,880
I started putting money in her
favor. And the thing that gets

2177
02:02:02,910 --> 02:02:07,140
that you notice, if you watch
even Fox, oh, she won the

2178
02:02:07,140 --> 02:02:11,820
debate. Somehow she won the
debate. Nobody's winning these

2179
02:02:11,820 --> 02:02:15,840
debates, but somehow she's
coming out ahead and they keep

2180
02:02:16,020 --> 02:02:19,200
pushing that and they will look
at her numbers are going up.

2181
02:02:19,410 --> 02:02:22,710
Adam Curry: This is a pathetic
attempt to thwart Trump for

2182
02:02:22,710 --> 02:02:24,240
real. It's

2183
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:26,250
John C Dvorak: very pathetic.
It's very pathetic. And here's

2184
02:02:26,250 --> 02:02:28,170
some examples part one. With a

2185
02:02:28,170 --> 02:02:30,900
Unknown: narrower field of
candidates in the GOP primary.

2186
02:02:30,900 --> 02:02:34,020
We are seeing the remaining
candidates picking up major

2187
02:02:34,020 --> 02:02:37,380
endorsements endorsement
political advocacy group backed

2188
02:02:37,380 --> 02:02:40,380
by the Koch brothers recently
through their support behind

2189
02:02:40,410 --> 02:02:44,430
Nikki Haley. And today at
JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon

2190
02:02:44,460 --> 02:02:48,030
also said that Haley is the
candidate who has the best

2191
02:02:48,060 --> 02:02:52,470
chance of unseating GOP front
runner, Donald Trump. What do we

2192
02:02:52,470 --> 02:02:56,460
make of this? Joining us to
discuss is Mike Lyon host of can

2193
02:02:56,460 --> 02:02:58,140
we please talk podcast?

2194
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:01,800
Adam Curry: Oh my god, guys. Oh
my god. Well, this will change

2195
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:05,010
the tide. We've got a podcast
and podcast shows.

2196
02:03:05,250 --> 02:03:08,100
John C Dvorak: She brings on a
podcaster. Yeah, who doesn't

2197
02:03:08,100 --> 02:03:09,090
know anything?

2198
02:03:09,330 --> 02:03:10,860
Adam Curry: What Why did they
bring him on then?

2199
02:03:11,580 --> 02:03:14,310
John C Dvorak: I have no idea
PR, they maybe he has a PR

2200
02:03:14,310 --> 02:03:18,840
person. We can never get one
because the PR people like as

2201
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:22,260
much they hate us because they
hate us. And it's what it is.

2202
02:03:22,290 --> 02:03:24,900
But so they bring this guy and
he's got nothing to say. And

2203
02:03:24,900 --> 02:03:28,290
it's actually kind of funny what
he says because he's a stooge.

2204
02:03:28,380 --> 02:03:31,470
And by the way, the Koch
brothers are notorious treatment

2205
02:03:31,470 --> 02:03:35,610
of they're mentioned a lot in
2015. And 2016 is a terrible

2206
02:03:35,610 --> 02:03:40,140
people. But once they they
turned on Trump, they never

2207
02:03:40,140 --> 02:03:43,710
liked Donald Trump. No. So they
sent him no support whatsoever.

2208
02:03:43,710 --> 02:03:46,560
And then the talk of the Koch
brothers just disappeared.

2209
02:03:47,730 --> 02:03:50,550
Because everyone's fine with
them. Okay, here we go. Mike.

2210
02:03:50,550 --> 02:03:50,850
Leon,

2211
02:03:50,850 --> 02:03:52,290
Unknown: thank you so much for
joining us. Great to have you

2212
02:03:52,290 --> 02:03:54,690
back on the show. Now, big
donors, including the

2213
02:03:54,690 --> 02:03:58,080
billionaire Koch brothers are
backing Nikki Haley for

2214
02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:02,070
presidents. That's the latest
push to beat Trump. How do you

2215
02:04:02,070 --> 02:04:04,260
read this, especially given the
polls?

2216
02:04:04,290 --> 02:04:07,410
Yeah, you know, it's so funny
that now you're starting to see

2217
02:04:07,410 --> 02:04:10,920
folks starting to weigh in and
we saw Iowa Governor Reynolds,

2218
02:04:11,340 --> 02:04:15,180
back Ron DeSantis. Now we're
seeing the donations that are

2219
02:04:15,180 --> 02:04:18,420
coming in from the Koch brothers
for Nikki Haley. I read it as

2220
02:04:18,450 --> 02:04:22,050
similar to last time I was on. I
was mentioning about other

2221
02:04:22,050 --> 02:04:24,480
debate performances went and I
think right now people are

2222
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:27,840
starting to see Nikki Haley's
ascension. After these debates I

2223
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:29,850
mentioned to you, Tiffany, I'm
going to take a victory lap

2224
02:04:29,850 --> 02:04:32,880
about Tim Scott would probably
be dropping. And sure enough, he

2225
02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:34,680
drops and I think what's
happening right now is you're

2226
02:04:34,680 --> 02:04:36,750
starting to see even Wow,

2227
02:04:36,750 --> 02:04:40,590
Adam Curry: he's got a crystal
ball there on that podcast. I

2228
02:04:40,590 --> 02:04:43,200
predict him Scott will drop out
of the race and

2229
02:04:43,260 --> 02:04:47,010
Unknown: take a victory lap
about dropping. And sure enough,

2230
02:04:47,010 --> 02:04:48,930
he drops and I think what's
happening right now is you're

2231
02:04:48,930 --> 02:04:51,870
starting to see even before we
get to January and the Iowa

2232
02:04:52,530 --> 02:04:56,340
primary, you're starting to see
a consolidation and I think the

2233
02:04:56,340 --> 02:04:59,100
money is starting to move
towards Nikki Haley because we

2234
02:04:59,100 --> 02:05:01,890
saw a poll in South Carolina
trending upwards in her

2235
02:05:01,890 --> 02:05:05,670
direction. We've seen her shoot
up in mourning console polls,

2236
02:05:05,670 --> 02:05:08,970
which registered Republicans is
about 4000 or so in those polls.

2237
02:05:09,330 --> 02:05:12,480
And she's moving up continually.
Now the problem is, is that

2238
02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:16,200
they're all chasing the person
that's 4050 points ahead of

2239
02:05:16,200 --> 02:05:20,760
them. But But legal troubles
ahead for the President, we know

2240
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:23,940
that there's going to be trial
dates around key campaign dates,

2241
02:05:24,060 --> 02:05:27,090
Super Tuesday, for example, the
former president could be in

2242
02:05:27,090 --> 02:05:29,250
court. And I think right now,
what you're seeing is that

2243
02:05:29,250 --> 02:05:32,220
donors are starting to realize
we have to put our money behind

2244
02:05:32,220 --> 02:05:36,600
somebody that we think can not
only be Trump in the GOP

2245
02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:39,780
primary, but could also be
President Biden, in the general

2246
02:05:40,020 --> 02:05:42,480
Nikki Haley's campaign has done
that in terms of speaking to

2247
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:45,270
moderates, and independents and
Latinos and bringing in that

2248
02:05:45,270 --> 02:05:49,020
coalition of voters. And I think
right now the ear of those

2249
02:05:49,020 --> 02:05:52,140
donors, she has caught on
because of the messaging because

2250
02:05:52,140 --> 02:05:56,130
of the way she's performed in
these debates. Debates.

2251
02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:57,480
Adam Curry: Well, she,

2252
02:05:57,480 --> 02:05:59,370
John C Dvorak: by the way, she's
gaining ground in South

2253
02:05:59,370 --> 02:06:03,210
Carolina, where she was the
governor, you might hope she'd

2254
02:06:03,210 --> 02:06:05,970
get some support. Sounds

2255
02:06:05,970 --> 02:06:09,360
Adam Curry: to me like some of
these special interests and

2256
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:14,820
donors are they're hedging their
bets here because they they

2257
02:06:14,820 --> 02:06:19,170
don't think Trump can beat the
rap. And they want to have a

2258
02:06:19,170 --> 02:06:20,100
backup horse.

2259
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,950
John C Dvorak: Yep, that she's
not going to beat any Democrat

2260
02:06:25,980 --> 02:06:26,700
mind. I don't

2261
02:06:26,700 --> 02:06:29,220
Adam Curry: think she might not
even be Kamala Harris.

2262
02:06:31,260 --> 02:06:35,100
John C Dvorak: Yet, would be a
great combination to see.

2263
02:06:35,130 --> 02:06:36,930
Adam Curry: It'll be great. Oh.

2264
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:41,640
John C Dvorak: Mimi was pitching
the other day about hey, you

2265
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:44,250
know, I think things so what are
you talking about? This is all

2266
02:06:44,250 --> 02:06:45,600
great for the show.

2267
02:06:45,630 --> 02:06:46,680
Adam Curry: Really, Mimi?

2268
02:06:47,310 --> 02:06:48,900
John C Dvorak: I spent a clue.
Lady.

2269
02:06:48,900 --> 02:06:51,360
Adam Curry: I saw a picture of
Mimi. She looks great. I love

2270
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:56,130
the color of her hair now. She's
got kind of interested. Yeah, I

2271
02:06:56,130 --> 02:06:57,450
like it. I like it a lot.

2272
02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:01,410
John C Dvorak: I do on with the
final clip of Nikki Haley.

2273
02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:02,250
Expanding

2274
02:07:02,250 --> 02:07:05,400
Unknown: on that point. What is
Nikki Haley doing right that the

2275
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:07,140
donors are backing her? Well,

2276
02:07:07,140 --> 02:07:10,410
I think the biggest thing has
been a dehumanizing word. She

2277
02:07:10,410 --> 02:07:12,720
has used this a bunch of
different times when speaking

2278
02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:15,180
about issues that Republicans
have been getting hammered on,

2279
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:18,000
in the midterms, specifically
around abortion, women's

2280
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:20,550
reproductive rights. She
mentioned in the first debate

2281
02:07:20,550 --> 02:07:23,370
with Martha McCallum from Fox
News. She mentioned it recently

2282
02:07:23,370 --> 02:07:25,590
the other debate, I think the
other big thing that was telling

2283
02:07:25,590 --> 02:07:28,890
somebody this a Republican
strategist, this is right now

2284
02:07:28,890 --> 02:07:33,210
the US is involved in two wars.
And there's a third potentially

2285
02:07:33,210 --> 02:07:36,690
looming with respect to whatever
China does with Taiwan. We have

2286
02:07:36,690 --> 02:07:39,150
Russia, Ukraine, we have what's
happening with Israel and Hamas,

2287
02:07:39,150 --> 02:07:41,850
even though there's a pause
right now in the fighting, and I

2288
02:07:41,850 --> 02:07:46,140
think foreign policy wise, Nikki
Haley is way above some of these

2289
02:07:46,140 --> 02:07:49,650
other candidates, specifically
Vivek Ramaswamy. We've seen that

2290
02:07:49,650 --> 02:07:53,130
back and forth him had about
Vladimir Putin and the way they

2291
02:07:53,130 --> 02:07:57,390
would talk to President Xi of
China. So I think that's what's

2292
02:07:57,390 --> 02:08:01,200
happening right now. foreign
policy affects the US economy.

2293
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:04,770
It affects things at home here,
even though voters tend to rank

2294
02:08:04,770 --> 02:08:08,340
it as lower issues. The
billionaire donors know that

2295
02:08:08,580 --> 02:08:11,940
President Trump ran on no new
wars and being able to navigate

2296
02:08:11,940 --> 02:08:15,000
the foreign policy waters. And I
think Nikki Haley is carrying

2297
02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:18,270
that torch. She was a former
ambassador to the UN. And right

2298
02:08:18,270 --> 02:08:21,990
now, she has put out the best
plan in terms of messaging

2299
02:08:22,020 --> 02:08:25,830
around what she would do for our
allies involved in these wars

2300
02:08:25,860 --> 02:08:28,920
and putting out the fires that
could potentially come if China

2301
02:08:28,920 --> 02:08:31,470
were to invade Taiwan. That's
why I think the money is

2302
02:08:31,470 --> 02:08:33,600
shifting towards her. Yeah, he's

2303
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:37,470
John C Dvorak: a big war monger.
She's pro Ukraine war.

2304
02:08:37,500 --> 02:08:38,910
Adam Curry: Yes. Military
Industrial.

2305
02:08:38,940 --> 02:08:41,040
John C Dvorak: What is he
talking about? The guys that is

2306
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:42,900
full of it. He's part of the
scheme.

2307
02:08:43,350 --> 02:08:44,100
Adam Curry: Oh, of course.

2308
02:08:44,130 --> 02:08:46,140
John C Dvorak: Nikki Haley
things getting on my nerves.

2309
02:08:46,170 --> 02:08:53,820
Adam Curry: I can tell. I can
tell. No, it's Yes, she is a

2310
02:08:53,820 --> 02:08:54,210
war.

2311
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:57,870
John C Dvorak: She's a warmonger
she's a hawk. McCain Democrat

2312
02:08:57,870 --> 02:08:58,560
and you know

2313
02:08:58,590 --> 02:09:00,510
Adam Curry: when you think about
the Koch brothers they don't

2314
02:09:00,510 --> 02:09:01,950
they make stuff for war. I'm

2315
02:09:01,950 --> 02:09:04,290
John C Dvorak: sure they make
stuff for war their oil company.

2316
02:09:05,370 --> 02:09:07,650
Adam Curry: Yeah, the oil guys
are behind. We're having dinner

2317
02:09:07,650 --> 02:09:11,430
with the oil barons of Texas oil
baron. Good. Now we're now

2318
02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:15,540
having we're having dinner next
Wednesday. Yeah. So I'm going to

2319
02:09:15,540 --> 02:09:19,230
talk to him about it because I
know that buddies of his and he

2320
02:09:19,230 --> 02:09:23,100
may have he may also be a Nicki
supporter. I'm gonna ask because

2321
02:09:23,100 --> 02:09:28,410
we know that really those guys
want a Democrat to win because

2322
02:09:28,410 --> 02:09:30,210
that's that's how they that's
how they

2323
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:32,760
John C Dvorak: look at the price
of Exxon stock if you want some

2324
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:38,160
confirmation Exactly. Although I
didn't get into stock soared,

2325
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:38,610
yes.

2326
02:09:38,610 --> 02:09:41,670
Adam Curry: Beautiful. It's
beautiful. Even though they're

2327
02:09:41,670 --> 02:09:45,870
patriotic and they they they're
pro America, but Nikki Haley may

2328
02:09:45,870 --> 02:09:47,880
just be just what the doctor
ordered.

2329
02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:52,980
John C Dvorak: Ah, that upside
down smile. I think that's what

2330
02:09:52,980 --> 02:09:54,360
bothers me the most about her.

2331
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:59,160
Adam Curry: I don't like her.
Her. Her look in general. She's

2332
02:09:59,160 --> 02:10:02,040
John C Dvorak: got this because
she has an upside down smile.

2333
02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:06,840
That's like borderlining on a
grimace. Yeah. And she's glib if

2334
02:10:06,840 --> 02:10:08,490
we horribly glib,

2335
02:10:08,580 --> 02:10:11,250
Adam Curry: if we could just be,
you know, very superficial for a

2336
02:10:11,250 --> 02:10:13,620
moment. And incredibly that's
what we do. That's what our

2337
02:10:13,620 --> 02:10:15,960
John C Dvorak: show does. She
got speakers. That's what they

2338
02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:20,160
do in real life. And especially
in the executive suites. She got

2339
02:10:20,160 --> 02:10:23,970
Adam Curry: saddled back, she
shouldn't be wearing jeans where

2340
02:10:23,970 --> 02:10:25,320
she should wear a jacket she
wears.

2341
02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:27,240
John C Dvorak: Part. I didn't
get to that I didn't go that

2342
02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:28,800
far. But you know, I'm, I'm

2343
02:10:30,210 --> 02:10:32,460
Adam Curry: I'm a fashion guy. I
know. I'm normally I'm a face.

2344
02:10:32,460 --> 02:10:32,730
You're

2345
02:10:32,730 --> 02:10:34,620
John C Dvorak: a fat. Yes.
Normally, I'm

2346
02:10:34,620 --> 02:10:38,310
Adam Curry: a face guy. But
yeah, she does not have a

2347
02:10:38,310 --> 02:10:41,610
pleasant smile, or just has a
scowl kind of.

2348
02:10:42,420 --> 02:10:45,780
John C Dvorak: Yes, like
borderline scowl. Yeah.

2349
02:10:46,410 --> 02:10:49,980
Adam Curry: Yeah. But it's
gonna, it's gonna resort to

2350
02:10:49,980 --> 02:10:53,790
nothing. It's just not gonna
it's not gonna work. This I

2351
02:10:53,790 --> 02:10:56,760
don't badger these people really
believe that? I think it's a

2352
02:10:56,760 --> 02:11:00,960
backup. I think it's a backup
hedge. And, you know, if Trump

2353
02:11:01,260 --> 02:11:04,440
beats the wrap, which I think he
will I mean, I don't think any

2354
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:08,370
of these cases will actually
happen before the election. Do

2355
02:11:08,370 --> 02:11:08,880
you think

2356
02:11:10,890 --> 02:11:14,430
John C Dvorak: they're going to
try to find something to do to

2357
02:11:14,430 --> 02:11:16,380
lock him up? Yeah, literally.

2358
02:11:16,410 --> 02:11:19,440
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. Well, he
can still run for president when

2359
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:20,490
he's locked up candy.

2360
02:11:20,790 --> 02:11:23,100
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he can
probably win. Yeah. And then he

2361
02:11:23,100 --> 02:11:25,200
Adam Curry: can pardon himself
and good to go.

2362
02:11:25,230 --> 02:11:27,510
John C Dvorak: I don't know
about that. That's a big issue.

2363
02:11:27,510 --> 02:11:28,860
Nobody knows for sure.

2364
02:11:31,110 --> 02:11:33,300
Adam Curry: Hey, we'll be good
for the show. Who wouldn't

2365
02:11:33,300 --> 02:11:34,890
John C Dvorak: do here's the
here's the question for the

2366
02:11:34,890 --> 02:11:37,500
show. And for the listeners and
for the troll room and for the

2367
02:11:37,500 --> 02:11:45,390
producers. Who's Trump's vice
president? Hmm. Well, I'm pretty

2368
02:11:45,390 --> 02:11:48,270
good at predicting these things.
Well, but Well,

2369
02:11:48,540 --> 02:11:51,300
Adam Curry: here's what I would
do if I was him. Nikki Haley.

2370
02:11:52,350 --> 02:11:57,630
John C Dvorak: No, she hates
Trump. She won't do it. I can't

2371
02:11:57,630 --> 02:12:00,810
see this. Another it'd be
another bad selection. It's

2372
02:12:00,810 --> 02:12:04,800
gonna ask for an assassination.
No. Nikki Haley is out.

2373
02:12:04,830 --> 02:12:06,750
Adam Curry: I have another
option then. Comic Strip

2374
02:12:06,750 --> 02:12:13,710
blogger. Alex Jones, anybody?
You think he has an idea? Do you

2375
02:12:13,710 --> 02:12:16,440
seriously think he has a thought
about that? Right. He must, I

2376
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:17,070
guess

2377
02:12:18,090 --> 02:12:21,900
John C Dvorak: was somebody
must. But I have not heard any

2378
02:12:21,900 --> 02:12:25,020
speculation on any of these
people like to speculate about

2379
02:12:25,020 --> 02:12:28,350
this and that. I've heard
nothing. Regard Sara

2380
02:12:28,350 --> 02:12:30,300
Adam Curry: Holmes. Vice
President Sarah Huckabee.

2381
02:12:32,310 --> 02:12:34,290
John C Dvorak: Sarah Huckabee be
good except that it would be

2382
02:12:34,290 --> 02:12:37,320
like, Oh, look, he's taking a
press secretary and making her

2383
02:12:37,320 --> 02:12:40,980
vice president where she's also
I guess, the governor of

2384
02:12:41,010 --> 02:12:44,880
Arkansas. So maybe that's
something but Sarah Huckabee be

2385
02:12:44,880 --> 02:12:45,420
great

2386
02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:49,110
Adam Curry: than the only Vivec
actually

2387
02:12:49,110 --> 02:12:51,720
John C Dvorak: is calling him
now. Calling Sarah Huckabee I

2388
02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:56,760
think is a good call. I like
that. But she's Of course not

2389
02:12:56,760 --> 02:13:00,900
chimed in. I haven't heard
anything from the Huckabee camp,

2390
02:13:01,140 --> 02:13:05,220
because he's got his own show.
The old man does. That could be

2391
02:13:05,220 --> 02:13:06,600
a goofball, Vice President.

2392
02:13:08,310 --> 02:13:12,270
Adam Curry: What is the what was
pants? He was a disc jockey. And

2393
02:13:12,270 --> 02:13:13,170
they threw him in there

2394
02:13:13,350 --> 02:13:16,590
John C Dvorak: was just a Yeah,
they were hedging their bets

2395
02:13:16,590 --> 02:13:19,920
with pants hoping for the best
and God pens,

2396
02:13:19,980 --> 02:13:23,970
Adam Curry: pins. We have quite
a lot to talk about in our

2397
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:29,490
donation segment. People decided
hey, I want a PhD before this

2398
02:13:29,490 --> 02:13:37,320
ends. And and I want to talk a
lot about it. Keisha case

2399
02:13:37,320 --> 02:13:39,630
John C Dvorak: yes with this is
the worst group that they had

2400
02:13:39,630 --> 02:13:43,560
last minute Charlie's good last
minute. Charlie's This is a new

2401
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:45,780
so they're all last minute
Charlie's and they can't because

2402
02:13:45,780 --> 02:13:48,120
they decided the very last
minute they could have done this

2403
02:13:48,120 --> 02:13:51,420
weeks ago. Where does that come
at the last minute is a huge

2404
02:13:51,420 --> 02:13:57,210
list. Massive and they all are
less. So last minute Charlie's

2405
02:13:57,210 --> 02:14:00,900
are the most talkative. When
they couldn't, we're going to

2406
02:14:00,900 --> 02:14:05,820
edit on the fly. Were they done
this a week ago or two weeks

2407
02:14:05,820 --> 02:14:08,190
ago? We've probably read the
whole note.

2408
02:14:08,220 --> 02:14:10,380
Adam Curry: Where does this come
last? Where does this come from

2409
02:14:10,380 --> 02:14:11,580
last minute, Charlie?

2410
02:14:11,790 --> 02:14:14,910
John C Dvorak: I gotta go back
to the 30s or to cartoon

2411
02:14:14,910 --> 02:14:17,130
probably in a comic

2412
02:14:17,190 --> 02:14:18,900
Adam Curry: or maybe he's
Charlie Chaplin makes Charlie

2413
02:14:18,900 --> 02:14:21,480
Chaplin last minute, Charlie.
Charlie's last but

2414
02:14:21,480 --> 02:14:22,890
John C Dvorak: definitely not
Charlie Chaplin.

2415
02:14:25,170 --> 02:14:27,750
Adam Curry: But before we do
that, we have a couple of

2416
02:14:27,780 --> 02:14:31,320
important business things we
need to take care of one is the

2417
02:14:31,320 --> 02:14:33,090
word of the year. Merriam

2418
02:14:33,090 --> 02:14:36,600
Unknown: Webster is keeping it
real this year. The dictionary

2419
02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:40,920
company says authentic is the
word of the year. It's based on

2420
02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:44,520
large numbers of searches for
the term and its meaning runners

2421
02:14:44,520 --> 02:14:48,000
up influenced greatly by news
events included deep fake

2422
02:14:48,090 --> 02:14:50,220
coordination and indict.

2423
02:14:51,930 --> 02:14:55,080
Adam Curry: I wish indicted to
indict would have been much

2424
02:14:55,080 --> 02:15:00,270
better. It's the word of the
year indict. No, it's that is

2425
02:15:00,300 --> 02:15:04,530
authentic. What do you think
people have been searching for

2426
02:15:04,530 --> 02:15:07,860
when they're looking and why do
you need a definition of the

2427
02:15:07,860 --> 02:15:13,740
word authentic? Are you a moron?
That's what they said is based

2428
02:15:13,740 --> 02:15:19,410
upon searches for definitely
lies. Don't you think? Merriam

2429
02:15:19,410 --> 02:15:25,470
Webster lies? And then the last
thing which is cropping up and I

2430
02:15:25,470 --> 02:15:29,400
think we're going to be hearing
more of the this and it that

2431
02:15:29,400 --> 02:15:32,970
came through a kind of a
roundabout way I had heard the

2432
02:15:32,970 --> 02:15:35,790
term before because I knew that
Amsterdam has implemented this

2433
02:15:35,910 --> 02:15:40,350
Amsterdam run by a socialist
Mayor V extremely socialist

2434
02:15:40,350 --> 02:15:44,220
mayor. It's called the donut
economy. Have you heard of this

2435
02:15:44,220 --> 02:15:48,450
term? The donut economy? Oh, so
the donut economy I

2436
02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:51,120
John C Dvorak: think we have
policemen out there. They may

2437
02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:53,400
have heard it. Oh, wow.

2438
02:15:55,980 --> 02:16:01,170
Adam Curry: Actually have a
Wikipedia has a definition. A

2439
02:16:01,170 --> 02:16:04,380
visual framework for sustainable
development shaped like a

2440
02:16:04,380 --> 02:16:10,170
doughnut or lifebelt. And
Amsterdam has implemented this.

2441
02:16:10,230 --> 02:16:14,370
It's called the don't the
Amsterdam city donut, the donut

2442
02:16:14,370 --> 02:16:20,340
economy. And it stems from a
lady Kate Ray worth who invented

2443
02:16:20,340 --> 02:16:23,130
this word. And she's doing the
circuit now because of course,

2444
02:16:23,130 --> 02:16:25,800
she wrote a book about it. And
everyone's talking about the

2445
02:16:25,800 --> 02:16:28,920
donut economy. And I think it
will catch legs I think I think

2446
02:16:28,920 --> 02:16:32,700
it's got legs at the end of the
day. I don't think so. Really?

2447
02:16:33,150 --> 02:16:35,550
John C Dvorak: What my first
initial impression was about the

2448
02:16:35,550 --> 02:16:39,180
police having a donut. Well,
that does what this does a deal

2449
02:16:39,180 --> 02:16:39,570
killer.

2450
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:41,940
Adam Curry: Would you like to
hear her explain the donut

2451
02:16:41,940 --> 02:16:42,450
economy?

2452
02:16:42,480 --> 02:16:43,260
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, sure.

2453
02:16:43,290 --> 02:16:45,600
Unknown: Tell me about your
donuts tell me the inspiration

2454
02:16:45,600 --> 02:16:48,360
behind the donut. And in another
way, this

2455
02:16:49,469 --> 02:16:51,299
John C Dvorak: is a joke.
falling apart already.

2456
02:16:51,719 --> 02:16:53,039
Unknown: What the donut means.

2457
02:16:53,190 --> 02:16:57,060
So the donut I offer you is the
only one that actually turns out

2458
02:16:57,060 --> 02:16:59,550
to be good for us. It's
incredibly healthy, because it's

2459
02:16:59,550 --> 02:17:02,970
a vision for thriving life. But
yes, think of a doughnut, the

2460
02:17:02,970 --> 02:17:06,000
kind with a hole in the middle.
And think of humanity's use of

2461
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:09,360
Earth Resources radiating out
from the center of that picture.

2462
02:17:09,810 --> 02:17:12,330
This means that the hole in the
middle of the doughnut is a

2463
02:17:12,330 --> 02:17:16,080
place where people are left
falling short on the essentials

2464
02:17:16,080 --> 02:17:20,160
of life. That's where people
don't have the resources for

2465
02:17:20,160 --> 02:17:24,600
health and education for housing
and security for income and

2466
02:17:24,600 --> 02:17:28,560
voice are falling short, we want
to leave nobody in the doughnut

2467
02:17:28,560 --> 02:17:32,130
hole. Now, you could say that
was a very 20th century goal,

2468
02:17:32,520 --> 02:17:35,820
increase our economies grow GDP
and everyone will have the

2469
02:17:35,820 --> 02:17:39,300
resources they need to meet
their needs. So we have to add

2470
02:17:39,300 --> 02:17:44,040
to this a very 21st century
understanding that as we use

2471
02:17:44,040 --> 02:17:48,480
that resources, we come up
against an ecological limit,

2472
02:17:48,780 --> 02:17:52,230
beyond which we must not go
because that is where we

2473
02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:58,950
overturn and transform the life
support systems. We depend on

2474
02:17:58,950 --> 02:18:04,170
this living planet. We depend
upon a stable climate, and

2475
02:18:04,170 --> 02:18:09,330
fertile soils and healthy
oceans, thriving ecosystems and

2476
02:18:09,330 --> 02:18:12,690
when economies seek to grow
forever, they undermine that

2477
02:18:12,690 --> 02:18:14,580
delicate web of life. Do

2478
02:18:14,580 --> 02:18:15,690
Adam Curry: you understand it
yet?

2479
02:18:16,140 --> 02:18:18,060
John C Dvorak: No, she's
bullshit. Whatever she's saying.

2480
02:18:19,140 --> 02:18:21,600
This is not going anywhere.
Nice. Lady, I

2481
02:18:21,600 --> 02:18:25,200
Adam Curry: think I am telling
you this is going places. Yeah,

2482
02:18:25,470 --> 02:18:28,980
well, one more clip and take a
bite out of it.

2483
02:18:29,130 --> 02:18:32,730
Unknown: So the donut says he's
no one in the whole. don't

2484
02:18:32,730 --> 02:18:36,660
overshoot limit. And this is the
goal we strive for.

2485
02:18:37,230 --> 02:18:40,860
So the hole is that vortex in
the middle where people plunge

2486
02:18:40,860 --> 02:18:46,170
into the vortex poverty and
deprivation. Edges are the

2487
02:18:46,170 --> 02:18:49,860
diseases of civilization or
excesses harming the planet

2488
02:18:50,100 --> 02:18:53,400
using more than you then you
need to know this guy gets it

2489
02:18:53,580 --> 02:18:59,310
and forcing more people. So the
fleshy part is the part the

2490
02:18:59,310 --> 02:19:06,480
healthy part. If you had to. If
you had to describe the current

2491
02:19:06,480 --> 02:19:10,080
state of the global donor, the
global inherent fleshy part is a

2492
02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:11,040
very thin one.

2493
02:19:12,299 --> 02:19:15,929
So the current state of the
global donor is a double whammy

2494
02:19:15,929 --> 02:19:18,629
crisis. Billions of people are
falling short. Billions of

2495
02:19:18,629 --> 02:19:21,209
people live in that hole in the
middle. We know that billions of

2496
02:19:21,209 --> 02:19:24,029
people don't have enough food to
eat everyday or have clean

2497
02:19:24,029 --> 02:19:29,129
water. Many kids don't go to
school, millions of billions to

2498
02:19:29,129 --> 02:19:32,549
the most fundamental primary
health care. And at the same

2499
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:37,619
time, collectively, humanity has
overshot at least six of the

2500
02:19:37,619 --> 02:19:40,829
nine planetary boundaries we
recognize on climate breakdown,

2501
02:19:41,249 --> 02:19:44,819
land conversion on biodiversity
loss and excessive fertilizer

2502
02:19:44,819 --> 02:19:48,479
use. So this is our inheritance
at the beginning of the 21st

2503
02:19:48,479 --> 02:19:52,679
century. And it is resulting
from the deeply degenerative and

2504
02:19:52,679 --> 02:19:57,389
divisive economic model that the
20th century led us into.

2505
02:19:57,810 --> 02:20:00,270
Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
everyone's gonna be Talking

2506
02:20:00,270 --> 02:20:03,360
about the donut economy because
it's so convoluted and so

2507
02:20:03,360 --> 02:20:07,800
retarded people will use it I
love the global donut. No

2508
02:20:07,800 --> 02:20:10,710
John C Dvorak: one's gonna use
it. You want it? You heard it

2509
02:20:10,710 --> 02:20:11,700
here last you want

2510
02:20:11,700 --> 02:20:13,020
Adam Curry: to put five bucks on
it

2511
02:20:14,910 --> 02:20:17,070
John C Dvorak: I could take that
out of the 500 You're gonna owe

2512
02:20:17,070 --> 02:20:18,450
me for shortly okay

2513
02:20:18,840 --> 02:20:20,820
Adam Curry: what do you mean
what do you mean shortly what it

2514
02:20:20,820 --> 02:20:21,840
was what?

2515
02:20:23,310 --> 02:20:26,700
John C Dvorak: So no I'm not
betting on any of this I betting

2516
02:20:26,700 --> 02:20:30,840
on the show is a bad idea. That
means that tells the producers

2517
02:20:30,840 --> 02:20:33,180
that we got money to throw away
all

2518
02:20:33,180 --> 02:20:38,790
Adam Curry: $505 That's right
throwing it away. Okay I'm

2519
02:20:38,790 --> 02:20:41,220
telling you the global donor and
about

2520
02:20:41,220 --> 02:20:43,650
John C Dvorak: his thing you
can't that will never end it's

2521
02:20:43,650 --> 02:20:48,240
not like something that's it's
got no end point well, I'll put

2522
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:51,090
five bucks that by the end of
now I just not even worth it's

2523
02:20:51,090 --> 02:20:56,970
too much work to create the
boundaries around the bet. Yeah,

2524
02:20:56,970 --> 02:20:59,490
Adam Curry: we don't we don't
need to bet on it. But I have I

2525
02:20:59,490 --> 02:21:01,860
have a good feeling about this.
Oh, you'll never hear it again.

2526
02:21:03,180 --> 02:21:07,410
Amsterdam is our Amsterdam is
the shining, the shining sparkle

2527
02:21:07,410 --> 02:21:09,480
the glaze on the global donut.

2528
02:21:09,570 --> 02:21:12,030
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, that
glaze is not sugar.

2529
02:21:14,070 --> 02:21:15,810
Adam Curry: I'd like to thank
you for your currency in the

2530
02:21:15,810 --> 02:21:18,210
morning to you the man who put
the sea in the last minute

2531
02:21:18,210 --> 02:21:21,300
Charlie's say hello to my friend
on the other on the One Only Mr.

2532
02:21:21,300 --> 02:21:22,110
John's

2533
02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:30,570
John C Dvorak: on the morning
shows to see boots on the ground

2534
02:21:30,570 --> 02:21:33,480
feet near San Dimas nights out
there in the morning to the

2535
02:21:33,480 --> 02:21:33,870
trolls.

2536
02:21:39,990 --> 02:21:44,940
Adam Curry: Oh no, no, no. 1745
we're failing. We're failing

2537
02:21:44,970 --> 02:21:49,290
trolls. Yeah, they're deserting
us, deserting us left and right.

2538
02:21:49,620 --> 02:21:53,190
And I think they get sick of it.
There was the donut I apologize.

2539
02:21:53,310 --> 02:21:56,910
The owner, you drove them off
nice. I drove them off with the

2540
02:21:56,910 --> 02:22:02,040
donut. So sorry. By the way,
we've driven a lot of people off

2541
02:22:02,040 --> 02:22:06,150
in the in the past couple of
weeks. Why is that? Oh, we

2542
02:22:06,150 --> 02:22:10,830
wouldn't choose a side and
Israel versus Hamas? Because

2543
02:22:10,830 --> 02:22:12,870
John C Dvorak: it gets people
worked up. Yeah. And I just want

2544
02:22:12,870 --> 02:22:14,940
to say we have a lot of people
sending us know saying the best

2545
02:22:14,940 --> 02:22:15,630
shows ever?

2546
02:22:15,750 --> 02:22:18,480
Adam Curry: Well, I would say
that we don't want to be liked.

2547
02:22:18,480 --> 02:22:20,520
We just want to be respected.
And

2548
02:22:21,510 --> 02:22:22,350
John C Dvorak: that's the
ticket.

2549
02:22:23,880 --> 02:22:27,660
Adam Curry: that'll that'll get
us through Christmas. Yeah, but

2550
02:22:27,660 --> 02:22:31,770
I mean that you know, you will
not go to us into it. We're not

2551
02:22:31,770 --> 02:22:36,060
interested in your stupid social
media fights. We're just

2552
02:22:36,390 --> 02:22:39,450
deconstructing media showing you
what's happening. All we do.

2553
02:22:39,480 --> 02:22:42,000
Yeah. And we come up with some
gems from time to time.

2554
02:22:42,750 --> 02:22:44,430
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the donut
being one of them.

2555
02:22:46,500 --> 02:22:48,600
Unknown: Topper Thank you. Well,

2556
02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:51,900
Adam Curry: come on. We had a
bagel we had a donut. You know,

2557
02:22:52,050 --> 02:22:52,320
it's

2558
02:22:52,320 --> 02:22:54,930
John C Dvorak: true. We had we
got to breakfast foods are the

2559
02:22:54,930 --> 02:22:56,010
theme for today's show.

2560
02:22:56,040 --> 02:22:59,160
Adam Curry: breakfast foods are
the theme. I want to thank the

2561
02:22:59,160 --> 02:23:03,660
trolls for being here. We
appreciate you. The you always

2562
02:23:03,660 --> 02:23:07,260
have interesting you help us a
lot. For sure. You helped me a

2563
02:23:07,260 --> 02:23:11,640
lot. So I appreciate it. I
always had my I like I've

2564
02:23:11,640 --> 02:23:15,570
developed this skill, where
sometimes it just like, oh,

2565
02:23:15,570 --> 02:23:17,460
there's something going on. I
look over there. And there's the

2566
02:23:17,460 --> 02:23:20,790
troll room with the answer or
something going on here. You

2567
02:23:20,790 --> 02:23:24,330
know, we're a good, a good
segue. The trolls are important.

2568
02:23:24,330 --> 02:23:27,150
It's a live studio audience.
People should try this more

2569
02:23:27,150 --> 02:23:31,170
often. If you're doing a podcast
if you dare. Because you don't

2570
02:23:31,170 --> 02:23:35,610
have to do editing, post
production. No, we don't do any

2571
02:23:35,610 --> 02:23:38,160
of that. We'd also don't have
cameras and sitting there with

2572
02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:42,630
headphones. We are just two guys
who have some expertise. And we

2573
02:23:42,630 --> 02:23:45,570
love sharing it with you. And
the trolls are a part of that.

2574
02:23:45,570 --> 02:23:49,380
And we appreciate it. And it's
good to troll here. So you get

2575
02:23:49,380 --> 02:23:53,100
it out of your system. Because
it just goes away. It goes away.

2576
02:23:53,430 --> 02:23:56,070
You don't get in trouble. You
know you don't get it you can

2577
02:23:56,070 --> 02:24:00,150
sleep easily. It's like when you
troll troll and the troll room.

2578
02:24:00,180 --> 02:24:03,780
That's why it's called the troll
room.io trolling.io We're using

2579
02:24:03,780 --> 02:24:07,500
modern podcast app which you can
get a podcast apps.com which has

2580
02:24:07,500 --> 02:24:10,410
this a lot of cool features,
including the live feature.

2581
02:24:10,740 --> 02:24:13,080
John C Dvorak: Didn't get into
troll room by going to no agenda

2582
02:24:13,080 --> 02:24:14,130
stream.com

2583
02:24:14,400 --> 02:24:17,190
Adam Curry: is the same thing as
troll room.io That goes to the

2584
02:24:17,190 --> 02:24:20,790
same place. But if you want to
call no agenda, why you say why

2585
02:24:20,790 --> 02:24:21,510
do you bring that up?

2586
02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:24,270
John C Dvorak: Because I went to
it today to see why you weren't

2587
02:24:24,270 --> 02:24:24,840
online.

2588
02:24:24,900 --> 02:24:25,830
Adam Curry: I was online.

2589
02:24:26,340 --> 02:24:29,130
John C Dvorak: It was clear when
I went to no agenda stream.

2590
02:24:30,240 --> 02:24:32,940
Adam Curry: Oh, no. Okay,
whatever. That was still there.

2591
02:24:32,970 --> 02:24:34,920
John C Dvorak: We had some
issues connecting on a clean

2592
02:24:34,920 --> 02:24:35,280
feed.

2593
02:24:35,310 --> 02:24:37,320
Adam Curry: That's okay. We'd
love clean feed. Just have to

2594
02:24:37,320 --> 02:24:40,920
refresh was good just after
someone else. Someone email me.

2595
02:24:41,370 --> 02:24:44,670
How do you do that? That can't
be just clean feed. It's a lot

2596
02:24:44,670 --> 02:24:48,120
of us clean feed. And of course
what do you do what how do you

2597
02:24:48,150 --> 02:24:53,670
create such a great sound
between you and John? I said 45

2598
02:24:53,670 --> 02:24:55,410
years of experience and clean
feet

2599
02:24:57,330 --> 02:24:59,430
John C Dvorak: is an element of
it. Clean feet

2600
02:24:59,430 --> 02:25:02,100
Adam Curry: and 45 have years of
experience exactly. Yeah, we

2601
02:25:02,100 --> 02:25:05,220
know what to do what we're doing
with 45 years is more minds it

2602
02:25:05,220 --> 02:25:11,400
might help a little bit. Anyway.
Yeah, you can always participate

2603
02:25:11,400 --> 02:25:14,100
in that. We appreciate you being
here trolls you can of course

2604
02:25:14,100 --> 02:25:18,480
troll along if you want and post
your memes at no agenda

2605
02:25:18,480 --> 02:25:23,580
social.com which luckily we have
that going on today. So Sir Paul

2606
02:25:23,580 --> 02:25:26,130
couture can have the listeners
to gentlemen see if the Art

2607
02:25:26,130 --> 02:25:28,710
Generator could we will need to
talk about actually is

2608
02:25:28,710 --> 02:25:29,820
John C Dvorak: he got to go in
yet.

2609
02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:34,680
Adam Curry: Let me check. Nope,
nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

2610
02:25:34,680 --> 02:25:37,710
Nope. Seems like it's still a
problem. That's that's not a

2611
02:25:37,710 --> 02:25:42,270
good sign typically want to take
hours to bring something back

2612
02:25:42,270 --> 02:25:44,940
from a hardware promise you
that's that's yeah,

2613
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:48,540
John C Dvorak: these systems are
getting worse and worse over

2614
02:25:48,540 --> 02:25:49,170
time. I hope

2615
02:25:49,170 --> 02:25:51,150
Adam Curry: he doesn't have to
make a trip to the data center.

2616
02:25:51,630 --> 02:25:57,870
That will be bad. It's probably
AI that attacked us. This is a

2617
02:25:57,900 --> 02:26:00,540
call that's called Jen. Tell her
that we're having problems with

2618
02:26:00,540 --> 02:26:01,320
our generator.

2619
02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:06,330
John C Dvorak: I'm sure we'll
get some email submissions that

2620
02:26:06,330 --> 02:26:06,720
will no

2621
02:26:06,720 --> 02:26:10,410
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no
pocket tours managing on nogen

2622
02:26:10,410 --> 02:26:14,790
social.com. They'll tag us so we
will be able to choose it right

2623
02:26:14,790 --> 02:26:19,080
from there. But we won't be able
to do unfortunately, is thank

2624
02:26:19,080 --> 02:26:22,410
our artists by critiquing them.

2625
02:26:23,670 --> 02:26:24,540
John C Dvorak: That's a shame.

2626
02:26:24,660 --> 02:26:27,210
Adam Curry: The only thing we
can do. We're value for value,

2627
02:26:27,990 --> 02:26:30,870
which is what we've been
throughout the duration of this

2628
02:26:30,870 --> 02:26:36,120
program. Oh, I Oh, by the way, I
I did my interview with Mike

2629
02:26:36,120 --> 02:26:37,440
Adams from bright young.

2630
02:26:38,310 --> 02:26:40,950
John C Dvorak: Yeah, brought
Mike Adams who's the nature? No,

2631
02:26:40,980 --> 02:26:41,280
no, I

2632
02:26:41,280 --> 02:26:42,900
Adam Curry: don't think he is
the same guy. No, I

2633
02:26:42,900 --> 02:26:45,150
John C Dvorak: looked it up. I
will use this. The guy who

2634
02:26:45,150 --> 02:26:48,480
founded Bridey on is the same
guy. He's the health Ranger.

2635
02:26:49,620 --> 02:26:53,130
Adam Curry: Got it? Yeah. But
he's a nice guy. Really seems

2636
02:26:53,130 --> 02:26:56,640
like a really nice guy. And and
and he was very knowledgeable

2637
02:26:56,670 --> 02:27:01,140
and his his partner there on the
podcast, Todd, he's a no agenda

2638
02:27:01,140 --> 02:27:05,490
producer. And he loves the show
and had a lot to say about it.

2639
02:27:05,670 --> 02:27:07,830
But the cool and he hasn't
released that yet. But at a

2640
02:27:07,830 --> 02:27:11,100
certain point. I want to give
him kudos right so by the way,

2641
02:27:11,100 --> 02:27:14,460
Mike you know we talk about you
know, Bridey on often on the

2642
02:27:14,460 --> 02:27:17,100
show, he says you do I say
usually goes like this. John

2643
02:27:17,100 --> 02:27:19,740
will say where did you get that
clip from? Bridey on

2644
02:27:22,590 --> 02:27:25,530
John C Dvorak: I usually say
rumble too. I rarely know

2645
02:27:25,530 --> 02:27:30,900
Brighty I rarely be SMERSH Brady
on only when it's not true it's

2646
02:27:30,900 --> 02:27:31,650
a lie. That's

2647
02:27:31,650 --> 02:27:34,230
Adam Curry: not only one it's a
really nutty clip that we both

2648
02:27:34,230 --> 02:27:37,710
say that must be from Friday on
he thought it was funny. So

2649
02:27:37,710 --> 02:27:43,440
anyway, we appreciate him so
yes, it's value for value. We

2650
02:27:43,440 --> 02:27:47,760
talked about that a lot. which
he thought was outstanding

2651
02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:50,070
people really love this idea and
it's you know, it's it's

2652
02:27:50,070 --> 02:27:53,850
spreading it's become a term
unto itself. So instead of you

2653
02:27:53,850 --> 02:27:59,730
know tipping or now no value for
value if you get any for V for v

2654
02:27:59,910 --> 02:28:03,150
value for value dot info if you
got anything for it was at

2655
02:28:03,150 --> 02:28:06,780
number four in the middle. If
you get anything out of this

2656
02:28:06,780 --> 02:28:09,570
podcast, which we don't have
behind a paywall, there's no

2657
02:28:09,750 --> 02:28:15,030
tears, no subscription, no
Patreon little secret shows

2658
02:28:15,030 --> 02:28:18,840
secret bonus No What is it
premium content? No premium

2659
02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:22,890
John C Dvorak: content is to
premium. Premium content to me

2660
02:28:22,890 --> 02:28:27,990
is the most insulting thing you
can do as a podcaster. Yes, but

2661
02:28:28,020 --> 02:28:32,640
next week is basically insulting
people should note that yes, it

2662
02:28:32,640 --> 02:28:34,770
Adam Curry: is. It's an insult
if you're listening to something

2663
02:28:34,770 --> 02:28:37,740
and then they say, if you want
premium content, subscribe to

2664
02:28:37,740 --> 02:28:39,690
our Patreon. Yeah, you

2665
02:28:39,690 --> 02:28:40,650
Unknown: go to locals.

2666
02:28:44,040 --> 02:28:47,910
Adam Curry: Hello, Scott Adams.
Yes, it is insulting. I agree.

2667
02:28:47,940 --> 02:28:51,210
It's insulting. So we don't
insult you. In fact, we don't

2668
02:28:51,210 --> 02:28:55,620
even insult you by calling you
fans or audience or listeners

2669
02:28:55,650 --> 02:29:00,120
you our producers and prospects.
Well, there are douchebags and

2670
02:29:00,120 --> 02:29:04,530
producers return value back to
the show and you do it in three

2671
02:29:04,530 --> 02:29:08,490
ways time, talent or treasure.
There's so many ways that people

2672
02:29:08,490 --> 02:29:12,000
will contribute to this program
boots on the ground. Making art

2673
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:16,890
is one of them of course, giving
us leaves information making

2674
02:29:16,890 --> 02:29:22,170
clips making making up and also
promoting the show hitting

2675
02:29:22,170 --> 02:29:24,870
people in the mouth. There's
many ways you can do that. And

2676
02:29:24,870 --> 02:29:27,840
we love our artists I wish we
could critique all of them

2677
02:29:27,840 --> 02:29:31,830
because we usually get these
days close to 20 pieces of art

2678
02:29:32,790 --> 02:29:35,220
that we want to talk about why
we didn't choose it so we'll

2679
02:29:35,220 --> 02:29:39,570
just talk about the one that we
did choose for episode 16 111 We

2680
02:29:39,570 --> 02:29:44,220
call that podcast Pro. Why do we
title it podcast Pro? I don't

2681
02:29:44,220 --> 02:29:45,600
even remember why was that

2682
02:29:45,630 --> 02:29:50,400
John C Dvorak: because there was
that we were mocking that the

2683
02:29:50,400 --> 02:29:54,120
term because somebody indicated
in one of our clips that that

2684
02:29:54,120 --> 02:29:58,830
you we were playing it was a
long story but it was a mockery.

2685
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:01,410
Adam Curry: Yes clearly a Mitel

2686
02:30:01,440 --> 02:30:02,640
John C Dvorak: yes and mockery.

2687
02:30:02,820 --> 02:30:06,870
Adam Curry: Now the artwork was
from Francisco Scaramanga who is

2688
02:30:06,900 --> 02:30:11,070
now two in a row. If if you
nails this next one is the hat

2689
02:30:11,070 --> 02:30:15,210
trick. It's gonna be hard while
there were many pieces to choose

2690
02:30:15,210 --> 02:30:20,580
from, and we chose a kind of a I
would say a compilation probably

2691
02:30:20,580 --> 02:30:24,000
about five good pieces in that
group there were this was a

2692
02:30:24,000 --> 02:30:31,050
compilation piece which had it
had RFK Jr seal and Hawk

2693
02:30:32,340 --> 02:30:34,860
John C Dvorak: which is good the
clincher by the way this is that

2694
02:30:34,860 --> 02:30:35,220
was the

2695
02:30:35,220 --> 02:30:38,340
Adam Curry: clincher it was a
cute little Ukrainian girl with

2696
02:30:38,340 --> 02:30:42,450
a drone then we thought that
this has to this has to be AI.

2697
02:30:43,050 --> 02:30:45,420
John C Dvorak: Oh totally miss
this cute I would like to just

2698
02:30:45,420 --> 02:30:48,990
scare monger says not AI and I
think but I don't I think he did

2699
02:30:48,990 --> 02:30:52,200
compose it because it was like
It looks like there's a couple

2700
02:30:52,200 --> 02:30:55,740
of pieces from Unity maybe done
done couple of pieces of AI and

2701
02:30:55,830 --> 02:30:59,010
put them together paucity. I
obviously put the title in his

2702
02:30:59,250 --> 02:31:02,700
in the Korean DeVore I think on
himself Yeah, with an overlay

2703
02:31:02,730 --> 02:31:07,410
but I think the basic piece with
the girl and the drone is is AI

2704
02:31:07,440 --> 02:31:07,770
now

2705
02:31:07,770 --> 02:31:11,160
Adam Curry: the seal and the
hawk on the on the seals head

2706
02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:11,430
was

2707
02:31:12,990 --> 02:31:14,640
John C Dvorak: hilarious. So
stupid.

2708
02:31:15,210 --> 02:31:16,470
Adam Curry: Just but

2709
02:31:16,470 --> 02:31:17,250
John C Dvorak: yet cute.

2710
02:31:17,280 --> 02:31:20,160
Adam Curry: Yeah, it had
something. I got pushback from

2711
02:31:20,160 --> 02:31:25,230
people. Hey man, fell cunning
and is Hawking is not is not a

2712
02:31:25,230 --> 02:31:31,950
rich boy sport. said Well, have
you seen the video of RFK Jr.

2713
02:31:32,430 --> 02:31:37,920
with his Hawks? Look, look
pretty douchey to me. Yeah.

2714
02:31:37,950 --> 02:31:41,520
Walking out in the field. Having
your hawk destroying other

2715
02:31:41,520 --> 02:31:44,640
animals in midair? I don't know.
It didn't feel kind of weird to

2716
02:31:44,640 --> 02:31:45,420
me. And

2717
02:31:45,720 --> 02:31:50,190
John C Dvorak: it may be it may
be not originally made. Maybe

2718
02:31:50,190 --> 02:31:52,980
mermaid Ridge Boys would never
take it up and it might be more

2719
02:31:53,010 --> 02:31:54,090
maybe I'm confused with

2720
02:31:54,090 --> 02:31:57,840
Adam Curry: falcon wing. I guess
Falcon. Same thing about falcon

2721
02:31:57,840 --> 02:32:01,350
wing. Some of those birds go for
a million bucks in Saudi Arabia

2722
02:32:01,410 --> 02:32:02,130
in the desert.

2723
02:32:04,230 --> 02:32:06,210
John C Dvorak: I mean, some of
the birds go for a million bucks

2724
02:32:06,210 --> 02:32:08,490
and it's a rich voice. I'm
telling you some of those birds

2725
02:32:09,120 --> 02:32:12,840
are like, for example is bring
up our executive producer in

2726
02:32:12,840 --> 02:32:17,220
residence or Hollywood producer
in residence. So David Brunetti.

2727
02:32:17,670 --> 02:32:21,810
He's actually made friends with
a hawk like a friend. Really?

2728
02:32:22,290 --> 02:32:26,130
Yeah, little Hawk baby Hawk sat
next to me. He's documented most

2729
02:32:26,130 --> 02:32:30,120
of us on Instagram. Oh, little
baby Hawk started hanging out

2730
02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:33,900
with him. And as a hog grew up,
he come by and say hi, everyone.

2731
02:32:33,900 --> 02:32:37,680
So while I think he could turn
that Hawk into a Falken for

2732
02:32:37,710 --> 02:32:40,740
Falken again, it would be baby
become worth a million.

2733
02:32:40,770 --> 02:32:44,310
Adam Curry: I predict. I predict
a seal is in his future and his

2734
02:32:44,310 --> 02:32:44,790
pool.

2735
02:32:45,030 --> 02:32:46,140
John C Dvorak: Yes. seals in the

2736
02:32:46,590 --> 02:32:49,200
Adam Curry: pool seal in the
pool be coming up next is

2737
02:32:49,200 --> 02:32:50,910
John C Dvorak: becoming an
elitist. And well, thank

2738
02:32:50,910 --> 02:32:53,460
Adam Curry: you very much
Francisco Scaramanga and

2739
02:32:53,610 --> 02:32:57,840
hopefully, we'll go Who knows
you might as Johnson is going to

2740
02:32:57,840 --> 02:33:01,020
be tough, but do you could have
a hat trick. There's only few

2741
02:33:01,020 --> 02:33:04,470
who have done it. Then we hope
we'll have and we of course,

2742
02:33:04,470 --> 02:33:08,070
thanks for Polka tour for
running the no agenda art

2743
02:33:08,070 --> 02:33:14,070
generator.com For how many
years? 1213.

2744
02:33:15,120 --> 02:33:17,460
John C Dvorak: At least well,
him and Randy Asher did a

2745
02:33:17,490 --> 02:33:19,320
previous site which you've lost

2746
02:33:19,320 --> 02:33:21,840
Adam Curry: and that was Drupal.
That was headless Drupal. That

2747
02:33:21,840 --> 02:33:22,890
didn't run very well. I

2748
02:33:22,890 --> 02:33:25,440
John C Dvorak: don't I think the
Drupal came later. I think it

2749
02:33:25,440 --> 02:33:29,880
went when couture took it over
just soul as a solo. I think

2750
02:33:29,880 --> 02:33:34,110
he's the one who implemented the
Drupal code. Okay. Well, that

2751
02:33:34,650 --> 02:33:38,280
became a new site site, which
has a lot of old art in it is

2752
02:33:38,280 --> 02:33:38,490
going

2753
02:33:38,490 --> 02:33:39,330
Adam Curry: last all that?

2754
02:33:39,810 --> 02:33:41,190
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Well, I

2755
02:33:41,190 --> 02:33:44,160
Adam Curry: have a backup of you
know, up until about wasn't

2756
02:33:44,160 --> 02:33:44,640
maybe

2757
02:33:44,970 --> 02:33:46,860
John C Dvorak: six weeks ago,
believe me? There's

2758
02:33:46,860 --> 02:33:49,650
Adam Curry: plenty of art. Yeah,
there's art but it's sad when

2759
02:33:49,650 --> 02:33:52,680
that happens particular show
day. And don't sweat it Sir Paul

2760
02:33:52,680 --> 02:33:55,500
good to where we love you. It'll
work out. Don't worry about it.

2761
02:33:56,640 --> 02:34:02,370
So then what is left is a long
list of lengthy notes. But much

2762
02:34:02,370 --> 02:34:08,430
appreciated. Because it's great
for the show of executive and

2763
02:34:08,430 --> 02:34:11,730
Associate Executive producers.
And of course we have this was

2764
02:34:11,730 --> 02:34:15,450
the Wednesday was the last day
the last day for the triple

2765
02:34:15,450 --> 02:34:19,920
bagger have no agenda PhD and
official PhD certificate the

2766
02:34:19,920 --> 02:34:24,960
whole deal, which gets you a
instant night or insert name and

2767
02:34:25,050 --> 02:34:29,430
or title upgrade, and an
executive producer ship. And

2768
02:34:29,460 --> 02:34:33,270
wow. You know, people just
really came in at the last blast

2769
02:34:33,270 --> 02:34:35,430
John C Dvorak: miniature last
minute Charlie's

2770
02:34:35,610 --> 02:34:40,260
Adam Curry: Friday to droves,
Frank ads and Zotz I wonder if

2771
02:34:40,260 --> 02:34:45,330
that's how you pronounce it.
odsonne sots. He's in Armadale,

2772
02:34:45,360 --> 02:34:49,710
Victoria, Australia. And I
haven't seen one of these

2773
02:34:49,710 --> 02:34:55,080
numbers in a while. 125687
There's got to be something up

2774
02:34:55,080 --> 02:34:58,800
with that. Maybe that's what it
takes to get to 1000 since $1

2775
02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:02,400
Reduce he says last They have
PhD opportunity something I

2776
02:35:02,400 --> 02:35:06,870
would not miss oh a donation of
125687 which also takes me to

2777
02:35:06,870 --> 02:35:10,470
the official US dollar total to
become Duke Frank. There you go

2778
02:35:10,680 --> 02:35:14,940
to be known henceforth as the
Duke of frankness, no jingles,

2779
02:35:15,120 --> 02:35:19,590
just some revenue Jade
generating karma. Keep up the

2780
02:35:19,590 --> 02:35:22,530
amazing work spreading the
message and evidence about how

2781
02:35:22,560 --> 02:35:26,310
inept and compromised most of
the mainstream media is today.

2782
02:35:26,670 --> 02:35:29,760
Thank you. You nailed it. That's
exactly what we do. Regards.

2783
02:35:30,510 --> 02:35:34,290
Frank. Oh, Arjun Stott. Hey, yo,
Pronunciation Guide. Armidale

2784
02:35:34,290 --> 02:35:37,050
Victoria, Australia, Duke of
frankness. Yes, you shall be the

2785
02:35:37,050 --> 02:35:41,190
Duke in momentarily. And here's
that karma. You asked for my

2786
02:35:41,190 --> 02:35:43,020
friend. You've got karma.

2787
02:35:44,850 --> 02:35:48,420
John C Dvorak: Robert Dawson,
who's happened to be in Taiwan

2788
02:35:48,420 --> 02:35:53,370
came in with 123456. And this
took a while to get through. We

2789
02:35:53,370 --> 02:35:57,330
had to he was working on sell.
And then he did something he

2790
02:35:57,330 --> 02:36:01,470
finally got some money through
using Capital One going straight

2791
02:36:01,470 --> 02:36:07,200
into the bank. Oh, no, no, it
was it was a week of work back

2792
02:36:07,200 --> 02:36:08,430
and forth, and back and forth.

2793
02:36:08,460 --> 02:36:11,130
Adam Curry: So Jay was on that
the whole time? No, I

2794
02:36:11,130 --> 02:36:16,530
John C Dvorak: was actually Oh,
wow. So he got it in. And by the

2795
02:36:16,530 --> 02:36:19,230
way, there will be some laggards
that get you know, there's a guy

2796
02:36:19,230 --> 02:36:23,070
who said send a pile does some
stuff come in the mail is going

2797
02:36:23,070 --> 02:36:25,830
to be postmarked is going to be
late. So we have a few more of

2798
02:36:25,830 --> 02:36:26,790
these mph.

2799
02:36:26,820 --> 02:36:30,120
Adam Curry: We of course have
enough PhDs for all we don't

2800
02:36:30,120 --> 02:36:31,200
care. No.

2801
02:36:32,970 --> 02:36:35,400
John C Dvorak: Except for the
long notes, but luckily Dawson

2802
02:36:35,400 --> 02:36:37,350
didn't have a long note. He says
looking forward to taking the

2803
02:36:37,350 --> 02:36:40,170
seat next all the Knights and
Dames and DHPs DS at the

2804
02:36:40,290 --> 02:36:42,990
illustrious roundtable. I'll
take a big portion of that

2805
02:36:42,990 --> 02:36:46,950
button and made I'll bring high
mountain oolong and the whole

2806
02:36:46,950 --> 02:36:51,780
group at the end of our twice
weekly bank banquets. He

2807
02:36:51,780 --> 02:36:56,430
probably has even TVs in Taiwan,
which has terrific food great

2808
02:36:56,460 --> 02:36:59,580
oolongs having banquets twice a
week. Cheers John and Anna thank

2809
02:36:59,580 --> 02:37:02,790
you for all the bottom my heart
and my wife's bottom two. Here's

2810
02:37:02,790 --> 02:37:05,670
the next 16 years karma all
around Alright, calm

2811
02:37:05,670 --> 02:37:07,590
Adam Curry: all around. Thank
you very much Robert Dawson.

2812
02:37:07,620 --> 02:37:12,960
You've got karma karma and Hulu
Derek Hi Brink Plymouth

2813
02:37:12,960 --> 02:37:17,130
Minnesota. 123456 ITM thank you
for your media deconstruction no

2814
02:37:17,130 --> 02:37:21,390
agenda has kept me company for
over 10 years on long car rides

2815
02:37:21,390 --> 02:37:24,960
and long distance runs please
Knight me sir Derek protector of

2816
02:37:24,960 --> 02:37:28,740
star Lake I'm looking forward to
checking the graduate degree box

2817
02:37:28,890 --> 02:37:36,180
in the next census Yeah, I guess
is there a box for that? I guess

2818
02:37:36,180 --> 02:37:39,510
there is a box for that must be
way to go I like it jingles F

2819
02:37:39,510 --> 02:37:40,950
cancer karma for all listeners

2820
02:37:45,600 --> 02:37:47,250
Unknown: you've got karma

2821
02:37:50,430 --> 02:37:52,860
John C Dvorak: a check the box
because I thought that's what

2822
02:37:52,860 --> 02:38:01,410
you meant. It was right. Mm hmm.
pluma 111111 Row Adickes was the

2823
02:38:01,410 --> 02:38:05,130
road so says yes. A big Rolodex.
Lots of ground to cover today

2824
02:38:05,130 --> 02:38:08,220
prayer. Forgive the lengthy
note. I'm a proud monthly

2825
02:38:08,220 --> 02:38:12,990
supporter as everyone should be.
All caps and grateful is the

2826
02:38:12,990 --> 02:38:15,870
common word to accurately
describe what is gained through

2827
02:38:15,870 --> 02:38:18,690
your tireless devotion to the
process of production quality

2828
02:38:18,690 --> 02:38:22,290
and the unparalleled lessons on
deconstruction Wow. As a

2829
02:38:22,290 --> 02:38:25,590
lifelong student I'm thrilled to
receive the no agenda PhD

2830
02:38:25,590 --> 02:38:29,580
executive producers etc. Pick up
my soul sister Kelly rego. It's

2831
02:38:29,580 --> 02:38:34,410
11111 is $211.11 of producer
credit for upcoming 40th

2832
02:38:34,410 --> 02:38:38,130
birthday you can keep track of
that on January 4 I hope she's

2833
02:38:38,130 --> 02:38:40,920
on the list I don't know digit
This is a nightmare for Jay to

2834
02:38:40,920 --> 02:38:44,190
put this thing together no
dating other people would

2835
02:38:44,190 --> 02:38:48,870
acquit. Please decree me as
pluma dame of the feathered

2836
02:38:48,870 --> 02:38:49,530
whales

2837
02:38:49,560 --> 02:38:51,930
Adam Curry: Oh, so her oh nice
blue muscle her plume

2838
02:38:51,930 --> 02:38:54,510
John C Dvorak: is at her by
trade I've worked in radio,

2839
02:38:54,930 --> 02:38:58,110
film, TV festivals and events
for more than a decade. I've

2840
02:38:58,110 --> 02:39:00,990
held a creative producer role in
a bent toward projects that

2841
02:39:01,320 --> 02:39:04,050
raise consciousness and help us
all become better humans which

2842
02:39:04,050 --> 02:39:07,530
appears to be a lifelong
mission. And between projects

2843
02:39:07,530 --> 02:39:11,190
noun and very inspiring gig in
Saudi Arabia is at a standstill.

2844
02:39:11,370 --> 02:39:16,110
So I'm putting my faith has some
sweet pagan jobs. Karma might at

2845
02:39:16,110 --> 02:39:19,530
you I would say I'm glad you
mentioned pagan jobs karma. We

2846
02:39:19,530 --> 02:39:23,220
have. We have a number of people
that refuse karma because yeah,

2847
02:39:23,250 --> 02:39:26,880
because Hagen has his pagan.
Yes. Although it's not really in

2848
02:39:26,880 --> 02:39:30,840
this case for them. It's no
agenda. Yeah, divine assignment

2849
02:39:30,840 --> 02:39:35,220
from the hui Hui shores of
Hawaii. She's in Hawaii. Mahalo

2850
02:39:35,220 --> 02:39:39,720
nui loa for your courage put
Kelly rego on the birthday list

2851
02:39:39,720 --> 02:39:43,470
and give her a biscuit. They
always give me a biscuit on my

2852
02:39:43,470 --> 02:39:48,420
birthday. Got that gem and bolt
Mezcal at a roundtable hold

2853
02:39:48,420 --> 02:39:49,110
fruit All

2854
02:39:49,110 --> 02:39:50,400
Adam Curry: right, here's your
monk karma.

2855
02:39:56,100 --> 02:40:02,070
Karma I forgot about that one.
We have Kevin McLaughlin

2856
02:40:02,070 --> 02:40:06,240
Concord, North Carolina our
booth man. And he comes what

2857
02:40:06,240 --> 02:40:09,210
about Kirk? I'm sorry, we got
Kirk Pettis and scrolled and

2858
02:40:09,210 --> 02:40:12,390
scrolled past him. The
spreadsheet I'm sorry, Kirk

2859
02:40:12,390 --> 02:40:17,370
Pettis, Hopkins, Minnesota. 1100
Thank you, John and Adam JLN

2860
02:40:17,760 --> 02:40:21,510
truly the best podcasts in the
universe. The last 11 years has

2861
02:40:21,510 --> 02:40:25,530
ingrained inspiration and
reverberation. The Ph D has

2862
02:40:25,530 --> 02:40:29,730
triggered my vanity and forced
the procrastination. Hey made

2863
02:40:29,730 --> 02:40:33,390
another Ryan King me King the
nightmare as Sir rain the

2864
02:40:33,390 --> 02:40:35,760
kingmaker, PhD karma for

2865
02:40:37,590 --> 02:40:39,450
Unknown: you, you've got karma.

2866
02:40:40,530 --> 02:40:42,900
John C Dvorak: So Kevin
McLaughlin decides to come in.

2867
02:40:43,260 --> 02:40:47,070
And I would have never seen him
as a last minute Charlie says

2868
02:40:47,070 --> 02:40:52,050
he's very consistent. Yes,
Concord, North Carolina. 10808

2869
02:40:52,050 --> 02:40:58,140
got Booba near 10808 which is a
PHD with a boob donation and

2870
02:40:58,170 --> 02:41:01,980
incorporate in a twist. He wants
to cancer karma for all those

2871
02:41:01,980 --> 02:41:05,190
who need it. Could you please
squeeze the melon mixed by sound

2872
02:41:05,190 --> 02:41:08,760
guy Steven to the end of the
show, and we did that. Archduke

2873
02:41:08,760 --> 02:41:11,550
of lunares 1612 You bet.

2874
02:41:16,530 --> 02:41:21,600
Adam Curry: You've got karma.
And we have bio life member

2875
02:41:21,600 --> 02:41:27,840
jury. Oak Grove, Missouri. 1044.
Sir, as you both always make my

2876
02:41:27,840 --> 02:41:31,290
day when listening. My wife is
so sick of me sitting with my

2877
02:41:31,290 --> 02:41:35,610
ear pods on giggling to myself.
I've had the show on in the car

2878
02:41:35,610 --> 02:41:40,080
many times or listen. I've had
the show on in the car many

2879
02:41:40,080 --> 02:41:43,080
times during our constant
travels. She just doesn't get

2880
02:41:43,080 --> 02:41:46,110
it. Oh well, her loss. I figure
I've been a listener since

2881
02:41:46,110 --> 02:41:50,850
episode 104. I did go back and
listen to the previous 103

2882
02:41:50,850 --> 02:41:54,180
episodes as well. I don't
remember what the name of the

2883
02:41:54,180 --> 02:41:56,730
show was I listened to that
mentioned your podcast but it

2884
02:41:56,730 --> 02:41:59,430
was a jack love or something
like that. Who was at the time

2885
02:41:59,430 --> 02:42:02,250
of regular and Alex Jones a
regular Alex Jones guest from

2886
02:42:02,280 --> 02:42:05,760
Austin Texas. He was copying
your value for value system

2887
02:42:05,760 --> 02:42:09,360
that's not copying. That is open
source. We want people to move

2888
02:42:09,360 --> 02:42:13,350
to this if the only way forward
the only way I was so intrigued

2889
02:42:13,350 --> 02:42:16,800
by this way of doing business
that I had to listen in I'd say

2890
02:42:16,800 --> 02:42:20,550
in a roundabout way my donations
on Alex Jones donation. He's

2891
02:42:20,550 --> 02:42:23,340
always right by the way, even
though I no longer listen to him

2892
02:42:23,340 --> 02:42:27,510
unless Adam is a guest. I would
humbly ask to become sir curl

2893
02:42:27,540 --> 02:42:30,810
the wagons protector of the
Missouri Ozarks from Mobley

2894
02:42:30,810 --> 02:42:33,240
south to Branson. This is
definitely the most beautiful

2895
02:42:33,240 --> 02:42:36,300
part of the country of ours.
I've set in place a plan that

2896
02:42:36,300 --> 02:42:40,410
allows no agenda listeners. Oh
yes. The opportunity to visit

2897
02:42:40,410 --> 02:42:45,180
the Ozarks, please release this
email to no agenda nation. It's

2898
02:42:45,180 --> 02:42:49,020
no agenda review
reservations@gmail.com no agenda

2899
02:42:49,020 --> 02:42:53,910
reservations@gmail.com. And any
reservations of his properties

2900
02:42:53,910 --> 02:42:58,200
will be discounted 60 to 70%. If
you are if you email him, we've

2901
02:42:58,200 --> 02:43:00,510
seen his properties. They're
nice properties in the Ozarks.

2902
02:43:00,510 --> 02:43:03,420
If you're looking for a trip
there, then definitely hit him

2903
02:43:03,420 --> 02:43:05,520
up and he wants to jingles
fishing knots and the whole

2904
02:43:05,520 --> 02:43:10,320
load. I got that for you just
good or John. Your peeve about

2905
02:43:10,320 --> 02:43:12,720
the fisting method of eating
snacks.

2906
02:43:13,410 --> 02:43:16,050
John C Dvorak: I see this on the
airplane and it's very annoying

2907
02:43:16,050 --> 02:43:19,020
and I think it will result in in
fights breaking out because it

2908
02:43:19,020 --> 02:43:23,250
just so annoying to watch. guy
takes his bag of peanuts and

2909
02:43:23,700 --> 02:43:27,420
throws a pile of them into his
palm of his hand and then he

2910
02:43:27,420 --> 02:43:30,720
makes a fist around the nuts.

2911
02:43:32,400 --> 02:43:34,950
Adam Curry: I'm gonna give you
the whole load today. There you

2912
02:43:34,950 --> 02:43:38,310
go. It's a little too long. It's
not quite a jingle There you go,

2913
02:43:38,310 --> 02:43:38,970
man. Thank you.

2914
02:43:41,040 --> 02:43:45,540
John C Dvorak: Matt Lubbock
inner rim rock. Arizona was

2915
02:43:45,540 --> 02:43:48,960
another one where we had to go
back for the get he wanted to do

2916
02:43:48,960 --> 02:43:55,080
a direct deposit managed to go
to paypal anyway. 103 3.33 and

2917
02:43:55,080 --> 02:43:57,270
that 3333 is the Pay Pal fee.

2918
02:43:57,540 --> 02:43:59,010
Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you
very much.

2919
02:43:59,100 --> 02:44:02,130
John C Dvorak: Keep it short and
sweet. couldn't pass up the PhD

2920
02:44:02,130 --> 02:44:05,160
from the guys who taught me so
much and I needed you do.

2921
02:44:07,020 --> 02:44:09,720
Unknown: You've been D deuced.
I'll take

2922
02:44:09,720 --> 02:44:11,910
John C Dvorak: the show credit
and the PhD but like to pass the

2923
02:44:11,910 --> 02:44:16,920
knighthood to my dad John.
Hopefully that's got on Yeah, I

2924
02:44:16,920 --> 02:44:20,370
think God bless you both and no
jingles no karma. Thanks for

2925
02:44:20,370 --> 02:44:24,900
your courage in his pronounced
limbic limbic not Lubbock.

2926
02:44:24,930 --> 02:44:27,480
Liebeck Matt Liebig, Justin

2927
02:44:27,480 --> 02:44:31,410
Adam Curry: Frank Paul gar is in
Santa Cruz, California 1033 and

2928
02:44:31,410 --> 02:44:34,230
a penny. In the morning
professors curried Dvorak thank

2929
02:44:34,230 --> 02:44:37,170
you for your dedication to this
craft chocolate blessings to all

2930
02:44:37,170 --> 02:44:41,700
get mo net nationals, but those
blessings in your mouth at Yes,

2931
02:44:41,700 --> 02:44:46,230
coco.com Yes, coco.com

2932
02:44:46,230 --> 02:44:48,750
John C Dvorak: that's Coco. Ca
Oh, yeah,

2933
02:44:49,080 --> 02:44:52,110
Adam Curry: ITM gets you 11%
off. I earned my bachelor's

2934
02:44:52,110 --> 02:44:55,080
degree in introspective
humanistic behavior from UC

2935
02:44:55,080 --> 02:44:59,400
Santa Cruz. Yes, I created the
major. I've spent the last 15

2936
02:44:59,400 --> 02:45:02,820
years making Chocolate and
rehearsing reality, not for the

2937
02:45:02,820 --> 02:45:06,000
greater good but for the
greatest great Godwin's after

2938
02:45:06,000 --> 02:45:10,050
1000s of hours of amygdala
squashing on the 30 330/3 day of

2939
02:45:10,080 --> 02:45:13,560
2023. A PhD in media
deconstruction is the next

2940
02:45:13,590 --> 02:45:17,340
obvious yes can't wait to hear
Adams motivational commencement

2941
02:45:17,340 --> 02:45:21,270
speech for my it's gonna be a
long one for my knighthood I

2942
02:45:21,270 --> 02:45:25,470
shall be known as Sir Yes sir.
For the feast please have durian

2943
02:45:25,500 --> 02:45:28,320
oni and my hot wife on a
platter. I'll bring the

2944
02:45:28,320 --> 02:45:31,470
chocolate for jingles it's a
good time for the shapeshifting

2945
02:45:31,470 --> 02:45:36,360
Jews JC these ants and pasta
Glock you're asking for a lot my

2946
02:45:36,360 --> 02:45:42,720
friend homeless second it's ants
and it's all going to be short

2947
02:45:42,720 --> 02:45:46,650
pieces of it because this would
be by itself six minutes if we

2948
02:45:46,650 --> 02:45:47,610
played all of it

2949
02:46:00,150 --> 02:46:01,020
Unknown: shapeshifting

2950
02:46:10,380 --> 02:46:11,340
John C Dvorak: nice made curring

2951
02:46:35,790 --> 02:46:39,300
Adam Curry: I got the my pasta
Glocks locked and loaded.

2952
02:46:40,680 --> 02:46:43,920
John C Dvorak: Here we go. These
are not jingles neither auto

2953
02:46:43,920 --> 02:46:47,610
mixes there's not jingles
people. I will mention this as

2954
02:46:47,610 --> 02:46:50,520
he did mention about getting he
made his own major at the

2955
02:46:50,520 --> 02:46:53,760
University of California system
throughout the state. You can

2956
02:46:53,760 --> 02:46:58,650
make up your own major really
and you just go to your council

2957
02:46:58,740 --> 02:47:02,520
counselor will put together with
the courses you need. So you

2958
02:47:02,520 --> 02:47:05,670
could get a degree in media
deconstruction from Cal Berkeley

2959
02:47:05,670 --> 02:47:10,290
if you if you want to do but,
you know just you get one from

2960
02:47:10,290 --> 02:47:12,510
the no agenda show for less
money in

2961
02:47:12,750 --> 02:47:15,300
Adam Curry: Berkeley it'll cost
you $150,000

2962
02:47:16,440 --> 02:47:18,840
John C Dvorak: Sir midnight of
the rivers in Pensacola, Florida

2963
02:47:18,840 --> 02:47:25,260
102 2.5 to PhD with a small duck
duck gray duck donation Minnis

2964
02:47:25,260 --> 02:47:29,190
no top producers will understand
please give me a title change

2965
02:47:29,190 --> 02:47:32,700
the SIR Jason rivers and some F
cancer karma. Thank you for your

2966
02:47:32,700 --> 02:47:33,300
courage.

2967
02:47:33,360 --> 02:47:34,800
Adam Curry: Thank you for your
courage

2968
02:47:39,960 --> 02:47:45,240
karma Sir Don, with 1013 and a
Swaziland off at the end 69

2969
02:47:45,240 --> 02:47:48,810
cents. I went to college for
eight years from 1998 to 2006

2970
02:47:48,840 --> 02:47:52,140
earned five bachelor's degrees.
A doctorate wasn't available for

2971
02:47:52,140 --> 02:47:54,960
my field of interest. They've
been completely worthless in my

2972
02:47:54,960 --> 02:47:58,500
professional life. Sounds about
right. Listening to the best

2973
02:47:58,500 --> 02:48:03,330
podcast in the universe for the
last 16 years has provided far

2974
02:48:03,330 --> 02:48:07,020
more education and the lifelong
value than college ever could

2975
02:48:07,050 --> 02:48:11,010
even the alcohol and drugs part.
I threw my diplomas away many

2976
02:48:11,010 --> 02:48:14,310
years ago but I will proudly
hang the no agenda PhD on my

2977
02:48:14,310 --> 02:48:17,370
office wall. I'd also like to
say happy birthday to my smokin

2978
02:48:17,370 --> 02:48:21,270
hot meal fiance Dame Audra of
Lego Land who celebrates 45

2979
02:48:21,270 --> 02:48:23,760
trips around the Sun December 1
love you most baby.

2980
02:48:24,180 --> 02:48:28,920
Unfortunately she needs to be
called out as a douchebag for

2981
02:48:28,920 --> 02:48:33,570
not donating for nearly two
years. That's not real douchebag

2982
02:48:33,570 --> 02:48:36,360
is someone who has never donated
so you kind of harsh on your

2983
02:48:36,570 --> 02:48:40,350
lovely lady there she says
Burnett sounds too feminine for

2984
02:48:40,350 --> 02:48:44,370
the savage beast of a man I am
so until I reached Baron status

2985
02:48:44,370 --> 02:48:47,790
I humbly request that title
change from Sir dawn to Dr. Dawn

2986
02:48:47,790 --> 02:48:51,870
so she can brag about marrying a
doctor can you please play the

2987
02:48:51,870 --> 02:48:56,760
French Bulldog F 35 goat screams
kept with our two d two

2988
02:48:56,760 --> 02:49:04,260
relationship karma oh my
goodness okay it's not exactly

2989
02:49:04,260 --> 02:49:09,480
the way you call it. I can do
some of that I think yes I can

2990
02:49:21,060 --> 02:49:21,840
Unknown: you've got

2991
02:49:26,430 --> 02:49:29,280
John C Dvorak: Scott Clark from
Hudson oaks Texas where we're

2992
02:49:29,280 --> 02:49:36,300
that is 10101 1010 Please de
douche

2993
02:49:38,940 --> 02:49:40,410
Unknown: van de deuced

2994
02:49:41,070 --> 02:49:47,100
John C Dvorak: please go up my
douchebag nephew Ty Walker. He

2995
02:49:47,100 --> 02:49:49,050
says I think you need to have
something worse than a douche

2996
02:49:49,050 --> 02:49:51,990
bag gives you use for people
like my douchebag nephew Blake

2997
02:49:51,990 --> 02:49:52,560
Walker.

2998
02:49:54,630 --> 02:49:55,710
Adam Curry: Was that was that
another douche?

2999
02:49:57,930 --> 02:49:59,790
John C Dvorak: Who didn't have
the common courtesy to hit me in

3000
02:49:59,790 --> 02:50:03,210
the mouth? outh minor switcheroo
please credit $5 You do all the

3001
02:50:03,210 --> 02:50:06,870
accounting for Thai Blake. I
don't want douche bags in my

3002
02:50:06,930 --> 02:50:09,630
house for the holidays. I'm
keeping the 1000s for my

3003
02:50:09,630 --> 02:50:15,090
knighthood and PhD please Knight
me srviper 515 He'd like a

3004
02:50:15,090 --> 02:50:23,580
parent's Bay Coconut Rum 90 and
barks red cream soda and West

3005
02:50:23,580 --> 02:50:27,210
Milton oh how Firemen's waffles
is gonna get to at the

3006
02:50:27,210 --> 02:50:29,760
roundtable will give you all of
them jingles working with the

3007
02:50:29,760 --> 02:50:34,830
Constitution Sharpton and hoping
for a no exit strategy am Scott

3008
02:50:34,830 --> 02:50:37,620
Clark Now get out there and

3009
02:50:45,240 --> 02:50:47,580
Adam Curry: it's a slide whistle
mix that forgot about oh

3010
02:50:54,210 --> 02:50:54,900
Unknown: my god

3011
02:51:00,510 --> 02:51:02,910
ESP I see what you got somewhere
to be.

3012
02:51:04,200 --> 02:51:05,370
John C Dvorak: No, I'm here.

3013
02:51:07,530 --> 02:51:12,810
Adam Curry: Then we have Jack
ash, Snohomish, Washington, 1003

3014
02:51:12,810 --> 02:51:17,220
and 33. Great name Jack ash in
the morning gents. I've been

3015
02:51:17,220 --> 02:51:19,350
meaning to donate for a while
now but kept putting it off as

3016
02:51:19,350 --> 02:51:21,540
I've been meaning to put a note
together with a little insight

3017
02:51:21,540 --> 02:51:24,270
slash boots on the ground. And a
few things y'all have mentioned

3018
02:51:24,270 --> 02:51:25,950
over the last several months
I've been listening more

3019
02:51:25,950 --> 02:51:28,920
earnestly. I heard Adam on Rogan
a few years back and listened

3020
02:51:28,920 --> 02:51:32,070
sporadically until early this
year. Anyway this is not that

3021
02:51:32,070 --> 02:51:35,130
note thank you just bugging you
guys for a title and another

3022
02:51:35,130 --> 02:51:40,830
sheepskin. I'd like to known as
Sir Jack ash. Pronounce the as

3023
02:51:40,830 --> 02:51:44,580
one word akin to Jack ash. Yeah,
I got it. Wandering Sasquatch of

3024
02:51:44,580 --> 02:51:50,280
the Gardena, Snohomish, and
Watauga valleys. Here after the

3025
02:51:50,280 --> 02:51:53,790
monikers Jack ash or that damn
Sasquatch will suffice aside

3026
02:51:53,790 --> 02:51:58,320
from the standard fare. I'd like
to will again cook coolant kit

3027
02:51:58,470 --> 02:52:02,430
Kiwi Kiwi Lango burger from
bareback grill pizza port beer

3028
02:52:02,430 --> 02:52:06,060
buddies Jagger fries from Fred's
river town Ale House and Apex

3029
02:52:06,060 --> 02:52:10,590
IPA from sound to submitting
brewing squash at the roundtable

3030
02:52:10,800 --> 02:52:13,920
Billy get to don't do these
things but they're just doing it

3031
02:52:13,920 --> 02:52:22,680
to this is you're a narcissist
but we love you oh x Oh by Oh to

3032
02:52:22,680 --> 02:52:25,860
more closely match Adams five by
five how I see it when he says

3033
02:52:25,860 --> 02:52:29,160
five by five in my shorthand no
jingles no karma. Thanks again

3034
02:52:29,160 --> 02:52:30,870
jets. Thank you Jack ash

3035
02:52:33,210 --> 02:52:38,730
John C Dvorak: DeLong Jack ash
Jack ash. Chris Fosgate 1000

3036
02:52:38,760 --> 02:52:41,280
Parts Unknown Craig
Congratulations on making it the

3037
02:52:41,280 --> 02:52:47,100
1611 Well 1612 Now no agenda is
the only source of news I can

3038
02:52:47,100 --> 02:52:50,550
stand these days so very glad
that you both invest your time

3039
02:52:50,550 --> 02:52:54,780
and superior media
deconstruction skills. Thanks

3040
02:52:54,780 --> 02:52:57,870
for all you do. Let me Sir Chris
Snyder the Kansas City Real

3041
02:52:57,870 --> 02:53:00,360
Estate no jingles no karma There
you go. There's no ads

3042
02:53:00,360 --> 02:53:02,220
Adam Curry: and no How about
this one though? Joel Hansen

3043
02:53:02,220 --> 02:53:07,350
from Modesto, California. 1000.
Sir Schmoll of the skinny white

3044
02:53:07,350 --> 02:53:10,650
guys Keystone light and kibble
from my noble steeds You guys

3045
02:53:10,650 --> 02:53:14,190
rock. Thank you for your
courage. Now that is no that's

3046
02:53:14,190 --> 02:53:16,530
what I call a good note. And

3047
02:53:16,530 --> 02:53:21,720
John C Dvorak: the crece YOLO in
Phoenix Arizona, which is also

3048
02:53:21,720 --> 02:53:26,340
where they put a lot of people
in witness protection gallery

3049
02:53:26,340 --> 02:53:31,770
1000 ITM gentlemen, it's been
over a year since my last

3050
02:53:31,770 --> 02:53:36,000
donation is almost sounds like
time almost sounds like time

3051
02:53:36,000 --> 02:53:39,930
since my last donation anywho
life has been tragic and all

3052
02:53:39,930 --> 02:53:42,300
over the place, but I won't bore
you with too with you to have

3053
02:53:42,300 --> 02:53:45,330
that with that information. I
just wanted to wish to a belated

3054
02:53:45,330 --> 02:53:48,630
Thanksgiving have amazing end of
the year. You too deserve a lot

3055
02:53:48,630 --> 02:53:51,090
more than you've ever received.
For all the hard work and

3056
02:53:51,090 --> 02:53:53,730
entertainment you provide. Thank
you so much for everything. I

3057
02:53:53,730 --> 02:53:57,420
have no idea what my current
title is. Last was Baron crack

3058
02:53:57,420 --> 02:54:01,530
ruler of Arizona and Cabo
cologne, but I think it would

3059
02:54:01,530 --> 02:54:05,100
this I hopefully get a PhD and
then if I'm late, then enjoy the

3060
02:54:05,100 --> 02:54:09,300
spoils extra mutton in me
please. And the F 35 goldstream

3061
02:54:09,750 --> 02:54:11,460
Unknown: Karma screen

3062
02:54:11,490 --> 02:54:15,810
you've got karma

3063
02:54:18,090 --> 02:54:21,330
Adam Curry: sir Dave the reform
Baronet 1000 What a bargain

3064
02:54:21,360 --> 02:54:25,620
removing the douchey guilt of
overdue V for V and a PhD can't

3065
02:54:25,620 --> 02:54:29,280
pass this up. This also makes me
a Baronet sir Dave, the reformed

3066
02:54:29,280 --> 02:54:33,480
Baronet if that's a title change
request to Bob Dylan The titles

3067
02:54:33,480 --> 02:54:36,690
are changing intro you got it.
Thanks for the very best media

3068
02:54:36,690 --> 02:54:40,170
deconstruction six hours a week
no jingles no karma sir Dave the

3069
02:54:40,170 --> 02:54:41,490
reformed Baronet.

3070
02:54:42,660 --> 02:54:46,710
John C Dvorak: Robin Robson, a
Robeson. I guess Robson 1000.

3071
02:54:46,710 --> 02:54:52,230
John, I'm near spasm. He's in
Canada. I'll say he's from spasm

3072
02:54:52,230 --> 02:54:56,550
booth. I had is he always gets a
laugh in Canada. told the story

3073
02:54:56,550 --> 02:55:00,000
before I was given my first
speech and he was in Vancouver.

3074
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:02,100
Even the guy comes on and he
says you want to get a laugh? I

3075
02:55:02,100 --> 02:55:06,720
said yeah, he says just somehow
work in the town name of spasm.

3076
02:55:07,590 --> 02:55:11,610
I got a huge laugh, because
shall henceforth be known as Sir

3077
02:55:11,610 --> 02:55:16,590
Robin of the wack. Chilliwack BC
get it? Candy Navia please de

3078
02:55:16,590 --> 02:55:17,100
douche me.

3079
02:55:18,750 --> 02:55:21,120
Unknown: You've been de deuced I

3080
02:55:21,120 --> 02:55:23,310
John C Dvorak: couldn't pass up
this chance to become a PhD

3081
02:55:23,310 --> 02:55:26,520
Knight Rogan donation Rubin
donation.

3082
02:55:27,120 --> 02:55:29,940
Adam Curry: Anonymous, comes in
with a switcheroo Adam and John

3083
02:55:29,940 --> 02:55:33,240
hope this finds you well. $1,000
I'm writing as I'm making a

3084
02:55:33,240 --> 02:55:36,810
$1,000 donation to the show and
honored my friend Tom. Tom

3085
02:55:36,810 --> 02:55:40,410
introduced me and several others
to no agenda in 2019. We haven't

3086
02:55:40,410 --> 02:55:43,200
been here since the beginning.
But we have been here through

3087
02:55:43,200 --> 02:55:47,280
COVID Ukraine and all the
distractions. Tom's wife went to

3088
02:55:47,280 --> 02:55:51,480
heaven a few weeks ago at the
much too young age of 43 men

3089
02:55:51,990 --> 02:55:55,410
leaving behind Tom and their
three wonderful kids I'm sure he

3090
02:55:55,410 --> 02:55:58,080
has sounds like he has a great
set of friends and community

3091
02:55:58,080 --> 02:56:01,620
around him. So a memory of Tom's
wife we are making the donation

3092
02:56:01,620 --> 02:56:04,620
such that Tom forever claims his
seat at the no agenda round

3093
02:56:04,620 --> 02:56:07,530
table and knows the support of
all the Knights Dames and

3094
02:56:07,530 --> 02:56:11,370
douchebags that make up the no
agenda family. Tom will be known

3095
02:56:11,370 --> 02:56:15,450
as Sir Thomas Lord of the ham
radio hobbits. No karma, please.

3096
02:56:15,450 --> 02:56:17,220
But we do wish for a de douche.

3097
02:56:19,170 --> 02:56:20,580
Unknown: Van De deuced.

3098
02:56:20,790 --> 02:56:23,580
Adam Curry: And we also request
though full throated, that's

3099
02:56:23,580 --> 02:56:24,930
bull crap from John.

3100
02:56:25,650 --> 02:56:27,780
John C Dvorak: Dad's bowl crap.

3101
02:56:28,080 --> 02:56:30,180
Adam Curry: That is one of the
best ones you've done. That may

3102
02:56:30,180 --> 02:56:31,410
be a show openers, so

3103
02:56:31,410 --> 02:56:35,550
John C Dvorak: but they can use
that further ringtone and why do

3104
02:56:35,550 --> 02:56:35,850
people

3105
02:56:35,850 --> 02:56:37,260
Adam Curry: still do ringtones

3106
02:56:38,460 --> 02:56:40,950
John C Dvorak: it's even called
relaxing some people do and most

3107
02:56:40,950 --> 02:56:43,080
be the one that's the most
annoying is the people that have

3108
02:56:43,080 --> 02:56:47,310
the phone ring that lousy old
fashioned ring. Yeah, that's

3109
02:56:47,310 --> 02:56:52,500
just annoying. Yeah. Ramco de
Reser

3110
02:56:52,800 --> 02:56:56,760
Adam Curry: the fryer dryer the
fryer fryer in

3111
02:56:56,760 --> 02:56:59,280
John C Dvorak: penis Rotterdam?
fairness.

3112
02:57:01,410 --> 02:57:02,310
Adam Curry: Fairness.

3113
02:57:02,910 --> 02:57:05,940
John C Dvorak: I thought it says
penis Yeah, no. Are in their

3114
02:57:05,970 --> 02:57:12,090
fairness 1000 I missed it. About
two years ago I hired Dame to

3115
02:57:12,090 --> 02:57:16,470
Tola following a tweet about her
being fired for not getting the

3116
02:57:16,470 --> 02:57:19,110
shot its whole lot she
immediately hit me in the mouth

3117
02:57:19,110 --> 02:57:23,250
and I never missed the show
since I'm glad that I'm no

3118
02:57:23,250 --> 02:57:27,120
longer a douchebag I'm no longer
douche bag or Emco and I would

3119
02:57:27,120 --> 02:57:31,170
like to be known as Sir Remco
Knight of the of to visa and the

3120
02:57:31,170 --> 02:57:38,310
Spanish Spanish Spanish refuge
of Ribera Deborah I expect them

3121
02:57:38,310 --> 02:57:41,910
to talk to hola to change my
name accordingly and her phone

3122
02:57:41,910 --> 02:57:46,980
contacts she now as we listen to
as douchebag Remo, no jingles

3123
02:57:46,980 --> 02:57:48,930
but health karma for everyone
who needs to keep up the good

3124
02:57:48,930 --> 02:57:55,110
work, sir M co night of DVSA and
Spanish refuge of Ribera de

3125
02:57:55,110 --> 02:57:58,530
Braga from penis the Netherlands
penis the Netherlands

3126
02:57:59,070 --> 02:58:01,230
Unknown: you've got karma and

3127
02:58:01,230 --> 02:58:06,930
Adam Curry: the Dukes go crazy.
Oh look at this we have WWW dot

3128
02:58:06,930 --> 02:58:12,630
wild dirt co.com Hello from my
internet please dump me survivor

3129
02:58:12,630 --> 02:58:19,110
of still waters and dee doo dee
doo stand because I have this

3130
02:58:19,140 --> 02:58:23,370
opportunity I'm offering all no
agenda producers $333 off any

3131
02:58:23,370 --> 02:58:28,350
land purchase as well as a $330
Switcheroo donation in your name

3132
02:58:28,350 --> 02:58:34,260
if you go to www dot wild dirt
co.com and buy some land. We

3133
02:58:34,260 --> 02:58:37,920
specialize in Super rural and
desirable parcels of raw land

3134
02:58:37,920 --> 02:58:42,570
homestead or bugout all with
payment plan options. I gotta

3135
02:58:42,570 --> 02:58:43,440
look at that myself.

3136
02:58:43,470 --> 02:58:45,420
John C Dvorak: That's that's
business that's

3137
02:58:45,630 --> 02:58:48,210
Adam Curry: I love bugout I need
some bugout land

3138
02:58:48,720 --> 02:58:49,980
John C Dvorak: well yeah land we

3139
02:58:51,420 --> 02:58:55,320
Adam Curry: got bugout Matt Wait
a very busy, very busy season

3140
02:58:55,320 --> 02:58:59,280
are running low on inventory all
while stocks last the 333 plus

3141
02:58:59,280 --> 02:59:02,400
333 dealer wild dirt co.com has
opened you from now until

3142
02:59:02,400 --> 02:59:06,600
eternity thank you for your
service. PS a PSA really. We are

3143
02:59:06,600 --> 02:59:09,900
currently in a golden age of
memes and some of the best

3144
02:59:09,900 --> 02:59:13,770
curated memes are found no
agenda social however fellow

3145
02:59:13,770 --> 02:59:16,980
Meemers we can do better no
likes and no boost means your

3146
02:59:16,980 --> 02:59:20,880
post is subpar. And you fail to
hit the mark let's up our Game

3147
02:59:20,880 --> 02:59:24,570
Boys and Girls stop posting
trash. I'm with you on that

3148
02:59:24,570 --> 02:59:29,190
that's exactly what I want to
say. That was well put I want to

3149
02:59:29,190 --> 02:59:31,050
look at Wild dirt co.com

3150
02:59:31,530 --> 02:59:33,870
John C Dvorak: While you do that
I'm gonna go to vous de vous

3151
02:59:33,900 --> 02:59:40,710
vous vous via account of
Hamilton 1000 rings from the

3152
02:59:40,710 --> 02:59:44,460
beautiful Westfield Indiana
that's where he's from. This is

3153
02:59:44,460 --> 02:59:47,730
the vibe count of Hamilton and
the two and the two penny

3154
02:59:47,730 --> 02:59:50,400
supporting your excellent
program signing up for the PhD

3155
02:59:50,400 --> 02:59:53,040
for myself and also the
institute a my better half is

3156
02:59:53,040 --> 02:59:57,570
another one of those split
donations and obtain a PhD for

3157
02:59:57,570 --> 03:00:00,060
her as well. He does have a
second one here from the VA They

3158
03:00:00,060 --> 03:00:04,470
kind of Hamilton for day Missy.
Also $1,000 Please put $2,000 in

3159
03:00:04,470 --> 03:00:07,500
this should be at the top. She
is certainly worthy of a Debbie

3160
03:00:07,500 --> 03:00:09,480
listen since the beginning
hitting me in the mouth it'd be

3161
03:00:09,480 --> 03:00:13,020
a surprise early Christmas gift
for her. For now let her be day

3162
03:00:13,020 --> 03:00:16,230
Missy for the ceremony and she
can let you know if she prefers

3163
03:00:16,230 --> 03:00:19,710
another name God willing. We
will be at the indie meetup on

3164
03:00:19,740 --> 03:00:25,290
Monday. Monday, Monday, Monday
Monday. So no J No. K and God

3165
03:00:25,290 --> 03:00:28,200
bless you both yours truly the
vibe count of Hamilton in the

3166
03:00:28,200 --> 03:00:30,030
two pennies. So

3167
03:00:30,270 --> 03:00:34,800
Adam Curry: the wild dirt co
over seven years in the business

3168
03:00:34,800 --> 03:00:41,970
of flipping wild dirt.
Fantastic. Anonymous with 1000

3169
03:00:41,970 --> 03:00:46,200
Can I please request Ben
Shapiro. Oh my god. Do we have

3170
03:00:46,200 --> 03:00:47,340
that? That's not a genuine

3171
03:00:47,340 --> 03:00:51,330
John C Dvorak: no that we do. I
heard when I read this note. I

3172
03:00:51,330 --> 03:00:55,560
said Oh, my God. No, that's not
that's been. No, that's

3173
03:00:57,990 --> 03:01:00,780
Adam Curry: no, that's not him.
I don't think we have Ben

3174
03:01:00,780 --> 03:01:06,090
Shapiro doing that. Oh, my God.
No, that's not Ben Shapiro. Is

3175
03:01:06,090 --> 03:01:10,350
this one Ben Shapiro. Oh, no, we
don't have Ben Shapiro. Charlie.

3176
03:01:11,430 --> 03:01:13,380
John C Dvorak: Have it logged?
No,

3177
03:01:13,380 --> 03:01:15,480
Adam Curry: I don't I don't
think we've ever had that one.

3178
03:01:15,480 --> 03:01:17,940
That's just that's just the
bottom line. We've never had

3179
03:01:17,940 --> 03:01:23,310
that. Followed by a Space Force
from Trump. Yes. SpaceForce got

3180
03:01:23,310 --> 03:01:26,940
that. I would like to be known
as Sir big A please, for my

3181
03:01:26,940 --> 03:01:28,860
night name. Thank you for
everything you do. I listen to

3182
03:01:28,890 --> 03:01:31,740
no agenda every Tuesday and
Thursday. Well, it's interesting

3183
03:01:31,740 --> 03:01:34,440
because we do it on Sundays, but
it's fine if you listen to it on

3184
03:01:34,440 --> 03:01:35,940
Tuesday. Thank you.

3185
03:01:36,210 --> 03:01:38,100
John C Dvorak: Where's he from?
He might be in Australia. He

3186
03:01:38,100 --> 03:01:42,900
doesn't say listens to the
Sunday show on Tuesday, I guess.

3187
03:01:43,140 --> 03:01:46,890
Okay, Mike Dee's up and he's in
for $1,000 and he says just like

3188
03:01:46,890 --> 03:01:50,670
college I've waited to the last
minute to turn in my paperwork.

3189
03:01:50,670 --> 03:01:54,120
So there we go. At least he's
honest about it. Like that

3190
03:01:54,120 --> 03:01:57,330
surely wanted to make the
deadline for the no agenda PhD

3191
03:01:57,330 --> 03:02:01,020
and media deconstruction,
already more proud of this PhD

3192
03:02:01,020 --> 03:02:05,910
than I am of my bachelor's in
business from Kansas State. Go

3193
03:02:05,910 --> 03:02:12,510
ahead and de Deus. You've been
de deuced at the roundtable I

3194
03:02:12,510 --> 03:02:15,960
have what Adams having along
with a glass of tepid water.

3195
03:02:16,050 --> 03:02:20,280
He's a podcaster and a wine
bottle of whatever John is

3196
03:02:20,280 --> 03:02:24,330
drinking please Knight me, Sir
Mike D of the 7 Billion Rising.

3197
03:02:24,570 --> 03:02:28,050
I'm a real estate broker in
Texas. He's in Texas going on 20

3198
03:02:28,050 --> 03:02:30,540
years. The last few years I
concentrated more on creative

3199
03:02:30,540 --> 03:02:34,800
financing in buying and selling
property. Leaving the banks out

3200
03:02:34,800 --> 03:02:39,390
of it. You go get a raise 7
billion rising.org He's got a

3201
03:02:39,390 --> 03:02:43,350
story to tell. I thank you for
showing up. For us with an

3202
03:02:43,350 --> 03:02:46,050
amazing podcast twice a week
your media deconstruction is

3203
03:02:46,050 --> 03:02:49,890
tops. I hope you never exit this
fight. Much love for your

3204
03:02:49,890 --> 03:02:53,220
leadership. And everyone part of
the no agenda nation from my new

3205
03:02:53,220 --> 03:02:57,120
homestead in Kyle Texas. Where's
Kylie? County, Texas? No, Jake,

3206
03:02:57,600 --> 03:02:59,010
Kyle, Kyle, Texas. Yes.

3207
03:02:59,640 --> 03:03:02,340
Adam Curry: Thank you my
Nicholas Schroeder 1000

3208
03:03:02,370 --> 03:03:06,090
Salutations professors Korean
Dvorak having previously

3209
03:03:06,090 --> 03:03:08,280
obtained knighthood and the
title of Sergeant of Arms

3210
03:03:08,280 --> 03:03:10,470
protector of the roundtable
under a pseudonym used in

3211
03:03:10,470 --> 03:03:13,860
creative writing exercises, I
must now submit my tuition paid

3212
03:03:13,860 --> 03:03:16,170
in full for the education
received over the years for this

3213
03:03:16,200 --> 03:03:19,800
for this from this honorable
institution. I am beyond

3214
03:03:19,800 --> 03:03:22,320
ecstatic to have officially
obtained my doctorate and I'm

3215
03:03:22,320 --> 03:03:24,960
looking forward to the benefits
that such a prestigious title

3216
03:03:24,960 --> 03:03:27,240
will afford me. I am
appreciative for all the work

3217
03:03:27,240 --> 03:03:30,390
you have done in the advanced
and somewhat controversial field

3218
03:03:30,390 --> 03:03:33,030
of media deconstruction, thank
you for your courage and know

3219
03:03:33,030 --> 03:03:36,150
that I regard this amount paid
and my poverty but a fraction of

3220
03:03:36,150 --> 03:03:39,120
the value received over the
years, keeping us safe and sane

3221
03:03:39,120 --> 03:03:42,180
from all of the games that the
corporate media plays on the

3222
03:03:42,180 --> 03:03:46,140
public for the benefit of the
highest bidder, well put, I'm

3223
03:03:46,140 --> 03:03:48,600
forever in your debt for the
knowledge and the power and the

3224
03:03:48,600 --> 03:03:51,750
prompting to better myself in so
many ways, including getting

3225
03:03:51,750 --> 03:03:55,260
things as small as obtaining my
ham radio license at Adams

3226
03:03:55,260 --> 03:03:59,580
direction because John wouldn't
renew his I renewed it. I think.

3227
03:04:00,390 --> 03:04:03,330
I hope to continue paying it
back and forward in any way

3228
03:04:03,330 --> 03:04:07,320
possible. While I won't share my
Brazilian hottie, I will bring

3229
03:04:07,320 --> 03:04:11,070
cachaca to the graduation prior
to share with microtia Yeah, so

3230
03:04:11,160 --> 03:04:13,350
Kusha what is Kousaka Shusha

3231
03:04:13,800 --> 03:04:18,450
John C Dvorak: it's a it's a
white. It's like a white Ramon

3232
03:04:18,450 --> 03:04:22,920
is it's more like the Brazilian
we got version and it's got a

3233
03:04:22,980 --> 03:04:27,540
very distinctive flavor that is
is made with sugar cane but it's

3234
03:04:27,540 --> 03:04:30,540
got a really different tastes
delicious.

3235
03:04:31,140 --> 03:04:34,230
Adam Curry: Excellent because
Sha Sha is here. And I will

3236
03:04:34,230 --> 03:04:35,610
share that with Mikasa

3237
03:04:35,670 --> 03:04:36,390
John C Dvorak: because yes,

3238
03:04:38,040 --> 03:04:42,630
Adam Curry: I know it. Linus
Rotterdam Kinshasa penis to the

3239
03:04:42,630 --> 03:04:45,360
graduation party to share with
my cohort a fellow producer for

3240
03:04:45,360 --> 03:04:48,480
this episode 70 threes
respectfully deconstructed

3241
03:04:48,480 --> 03:04:51,720
Nicholas J Schroeder 70 threes
to Yukito five Alpha Charlie

3242
03:04:51,720 --> 03:04:57,270
Charlie you did not add your
callsign man Okay. Well let you

3243
03:04:57,270 --> 03:04:57,570
slow

3244
03:04:57,750 --> 03:05:01,410
John C Dvorak: unwary was Sir
pants in Brookfield, Wisconsin

3245
03:05:01,410 --> 03:05:05,400
his shirt pants actually came in
twice with $1,000 Wow Monterey

3246
03:05:05,400 --> 03:05:12,960
is first time sir pants PhD
donation go eg U N direct Egan

3247
03:05:12,960 --> 03:05:16,590
direct.com Check it out best
weapons dealers on planet Earth

3248
03:05:16,590 --> 03:05:20,220
they've got every gun diver they
got a lot of good guns on that

3249
03:05:20,220 --> 03:05:24,000
site worth worth looking at. I'm
going over the interesting guns

3250
03:05:25,080 --> 03:05:30,540
talking about him he is a 22
What sir pants in Brookfield

3251
03:05:30,540 --> 03:05:34,440
Wisconsin comes in with another
1000 with a switcheroo PhD for

3252
03:05:34,440 --> 03:05:39,570
Sir ass crack Nice. He's the
brother of Sir pants. Give him

3253
03:05:39,570 --> 03:05:41,850
some gentlemen farming karma and
as

3254
03:05:44,280 --> 03:05:45,990
Unknown: you've got karma

3255
03:05:49,020 --> 03:05:52,020
Adam Curry: All right. Then we
have that was kinda cool. We

3256
03:05:52,020 --> 03:05:57,270
have Quint. Why Newell with 1000
in the morning gents, PhD ME

3257
03:05:57,270 --> 03:06:00,150
PLEASE NO jingles no camera
plenty of love and light to no

3258
03:06:00,150 --> 03:06:04,740
agenda nation. Love you TOS from
Quint. Thank you and I'll do

3259
03:06:04,830 --> 03:06:10,920
Henry coca Zoli $1,000 Now note
and resolvent Technologies Inc.

3260
03:06:10,920 --> 03:06:14,430
$1,000. Now note gobble up karma
for you guys. Thank you so much.

3261
03:06:14,460 --> 03:06:15,240
Unknown: You've got

3262
03:06:17,370 --> 03:06:21,900
John C Dvorak: karma. Danielle
Lawson and nightmare sir let's

3263
03:06:21,900 --> 03:06:27,120
$1,000 A night me sir love and
Baron of Bay Ridge in Kings

3264
03:06:27,120 --> 03:06:32,220
County, New York. Any insights
about pawns in the game or

3265
03:06:32,670 --> 03:06:40,230
Whitney Webb books? Give me a mo
karma jingle please. Yeah. You

3266
03:06:40,230 --> 03:06:44,730
got other things to do with your
time? You've got

3267
03:06:49,290 --> 03:06:54,420
Adam Curry: Aaron Bonjour Kaz.
Mojo cares Mission Viejo,

3268
03:06:54,420 --> 03:06:59,310
California 1000 Please Knight
me, Knight Philip Hello of the

3269
03:06:59,310 --> 03:07:07,200
BB urea Plains area. Yeah, Bab
urea ver Dolla dolla gas with

3270
03:07:08,340 --> 03:07:10,860
what is it John, go ahead. Just
pronounced it for me. I'll go

3271
03:07:10,890 --> 03:07:13,650
John C Dvorak: I ended up
verdant verdure over Dolla

3272
03:07:15,090 --> 03:07:18,210
Adam Curry: dolla Goss with pork
and green sauce and the glass of

3273
03:07:18,240 --> 03:07:24,630
cold to paci to posh to Pachi. I
can't pronounce it it's hard for

3274
03:07:24,630 --> 03:07:25,710
me to serve it.

3275
03:07:26,730 --> 03:07:30,780
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well.
You're out of luck, this way to

3276
03:07:30,780 --> 03:07:34,050
talk and Mission Viejo. That's,
oh,

3277
03:07:34,050 --> 03:07:37,950
Adam Curry: that's the problem.
Okay. Thank you Dr. Aaron

3278
03:07:37,950 --> 03:07:43,920
Arnaldo Boyer quiz. Joe Boyer
kids. This is tough. Yeah,

3279
03:07:44,370 --> 03:07:47,340
John C Dvorak: I'm not sure
either. So yogi, that's easier

3280
03:07:47,670 --> 03:07:53,310
in West Richland Washington 1000
bucks a day by the way we should

3281
03:07:53,310 --> 03:07:54,090
mention this is

3282
03:07:54,240 --> 03:07:57,810
Adam Curry: excessive it is this
is not your it's very

3283
03:07:57,810 --> 03:08:01,320
John C Dvorak: abnormal, but we
love it because it will pay the

3284
03:08:01,320 --> 03:08:04,890
bills till February March 8 We
don't even start getting

3285
03:08:04,890 --> 03:08:06,990
donations again till March. Oh,
it's gonna be

3286
03:08:08,250 --> 03:08:11,070
Adam Curry: dead goes dead. It
will be dead I

3287
03:08:11,070 --> 03:08:13,710
John C Dvorak: was waiting to
get home from California road

3288
03:08:13,710 --> 03:08:18,360
trip if if to see if there was
enough cash left over to get

3289
03:08:18,360 --> 03:08:23,310
myself a PhD. Yeah. On the last
day while heading home went to

3290
03:08:23,310 --> 03:08:27,000
our favorite coffee joint and
what was handwritten on the cup

3291
03:08:27,000 --> 03:08:32,910
lids but the number 33 I shit
you not the writing was on the

3292
03:08:32,910 --> 03:08:37,470
lid. Oh, no. The universe was
telling me to get that PhD

3293
03:08:37,470 --> 03:08:40,140
thanks for all you doing? Keep
me in my smokin hot Diem sane.

3294
03:08:40,500 --> 03:08:44,040
Peace and love to you both you
sir Yogi Knight of the carnival.

3295
03:08:44,040 --> 03:08:46,740
Midways. Can I get a good karma
for everybody?

3296
03:08:47,520 --> 03:08:51,990
Unknown: You've got karma. And

3297
03:08:51,990 --> 03:08:55,470
Adam Curry: we have another 1000
from Sir Googe of RVA.

3298
03:08:55,650 --> 03:08:56,610
Unknown: Good.

3299
03:08:56,910 --> 03:09:00,270
Adam Curry: No jingles no karma.
Just a PhD? Thank you. No exit

3300
03:09:00,270 --> 03:09:04,260
plan, please. You got it. We're
still here. Joe

3301
03:09:04,290 --> 03:09:09,930
John C Dvorak: Acton main 1000.
I've been listening for a few

3302
03:09:09,930 --> 03:09:12,600
years and I haven't missed the
show since I started listening.

3303
03:09:12,600 --> 03:09:15,210
But I have to admit I was
starting to feel guilty about

3304
03:09:15,210 --> 03:09:18,510
being a douchebag Kept thinking
I should probably take advantage

3305
03:09:18,510 --> 03:09:21,060
of the Ph. D program because I
always wanted some higher

3306
03:09:21,060 --> 03:09:24,390
education credentials and became
a knight at the same time. I'm

3307
03:09:24,390 --> 03:09:27,540
going to pass this up. But I
just couldn't pull the trigger.

3308
03:09:27,540 --> 03:09:30,690
Then in the 33rd day of the year
I looked at my phone and it had

3309
03:09:30,690 --> 03:09:38,910
3333 unread emails. This was a
sign it's time to give back and

3310
03:09:38,910 --> 03:09:41,490
do my part and hopefully keep
you guys from finding an exit

3311
03:09:41,490 --> 03:09:43,860
strategy. Please de douche me.

3312
03:09:45,540 --> 03:09:47,400
Unknown: You've been de deuced

3313
03:09:48,810 --> 03:09:51,570
John C Dvorak: bridging goes
places classic Sharpton F 35

3314
03:09:51,780 --> 03:09:54,900
Health karma for everybody. And
he'll be knighted sir jolly, the

3315
03:09:54,900 --> 03:10:05,070
brave of the main mountains.
About ESP IICT he finished a

3316
03:10:05,070 --> 03:10:06,150
bacon cheeseburger.

3317
03:10:06,150 --> 03:10:10,560
Adam Curry: Hey, quiet during
the karma. He was Be quiet

3318
03:10:10,560 --> 03:10:11,310
during the karma.

3319
03:10:13,349 --> 03:10:17,699
Unknown: You've got karma.

3320
03:10:18,900 --> 03:10:20,580
John C Dvorak: You put this on
your list. He wants a bacon

3321
03:10:20,580 --> 03:10:23,160
cheeseburger and Chateau Latour.

3322
03:10:25,020 --> 03:10:27,330
Adam Curry: I wouldn't mind
having one of those myself.

3323
03:10:27,450 --> 03:10:29,670
Which year Chateau Latour.
Should

3324
03:10:29,670 --> 03:10:32,160
John C Dvorak: we all okay,
let's make it a 2005

3325
03:10:32,550 --> 03:10:38,730
Adam Curry: Okay, Chateau La
Tour. Isn't that? Isn't that

3326
03:10:38,730 --> 03:10:40,110
made by the Rothschilds?

3327
03:10:40,590 --> 03:10:45,150
John C Dvorak: No, no, that's
Mouton and in the feet, Michael

3328
03:10:45,150 --> 03:10:48,960
Adam Curry: how big or how the
1000 No, nope. Get your double

3329
03:10:48,960 --> 03:10:50,340
up karma. Thank you very much.

3330
03:10:50,370 --> 03:10:53,880
Unknown: You've got karma.

3331
03:10:56,250 --> 03:11:00,390
John C Dvorak: Jonathan Lang is
busy race to the end. Humbly

3332
03:11:00,390 --> 03:11:02,850
requesting a D douchey. And all
purpose jobs karma.

3333
03:11:04,560 --> 03:11:07,590
Unknown: You've been D deuced. I

3334
03:11:07,590 --> 03:11:13,230
John C Dvorak: do declare myself
sir. No, please. And a scholar.

3335
03:11:13,800 --> 03:11:16,290
For those in the Memphis area.
Keep an eye out for a meet up

3336
03:11:16,290 --> 03:11:20,880
soon once you requested it. One
one of you requested a month or

3337
03:11:20,880 --> 03:11:22,800
two back they've recurs jobs,

3338
03:11:22,950 --> 03:11:27,120
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.

3339
03:11:31,560 --> 03:11:37,050
Adam Curry: We have Scott
McNulty. Due to my this is 1000

3340
03:11:37,050 --> 03:11:39,900
Due to my affiliation with
various secret societies, which

3341
03:11:39,900 --> 03:11:42,210
will henceforth never be
mentioned again. I had to wait

3342
03:11:42,210 --> 03:11:46,110
until the ninth hour of the eve
of the solar day of 333 in order

3343
03:11:46,110 --> 03:11:49,320
to make my donation for obvious
reasons. When the moon is in the

3344
03:11:49,320 --> 03:11:54,900
house of the sun's first light
the seed is born. We dive at

3345
03:11:54,900 --> 03:11:57,270
dawn I was working at the
Canadian Broadcasting

3346
03:11:57,270 --> 03:12:00,240
Corporation CBC embedded in the
news department. I'd been there

3347
03:12:00,240 --> 03:12:03,210
for over a decade when the first
global native ad for the UN led

3348
03:12:03,210 --> 03:12:07,380
Big Pharma Military Industrial
Complex copro was launched. I

3349
03:12:07,380 --> 03:12:10,800
lost my family and job to
groupthink in that battle. Wow.

3350
03:12:11,220 --> 03:12:14,700
They were all spellbound by the
black magic of propaganda. The

3351
03:12:14,700 --> 03:12:17,130
silver lining is that I no
longer work at the Ministry of

3352
03:12:17,130 --> 03:12:20,070
Truth since then my field of art
direction and graphic design

3353
03:12:20,190 --> 03:12:23,400
have been requiring the jabs for
jobs around here until only two

3354
03:12:23,400 --> 03:12:26,730
months ago in order to get by
I've been painting houses and

3355
03:12:26,730 --> 03:12:30,840
playing guitar in the Toronto
art rock band projects with a

3356
03:12:30,840 --> 03:12:31,200
que

3357
03:12:32,220 --> 03:12:36,390
John C Dvorak: wow that guy yeah
love you for this I like this

3358
03:12:36,390 --> 03:12:37,320
guy fifth

3359
03:12:37,320 --> 03:12:41,160
Adam Curry: projects latest EP
The wolf made it to number 23

3360
03:12:41,160 --> 03:12:45,060
across Canada on campus radio in
2023 If you'd love a warm

3361
03:12:45,060 --> 03:12:48,180
embrace and a kiss to your third
eye or female fronted

3362
03:12:48,180 --> 03:12:51,030
psychedelic art rock you can
pick up a copy of the wolf

3363
03:12:51,030 --> 03:12:55,050
during tomorrow band camp Friday
and all proceeds will go to us

3364
03:12:55,530 --> 03:12:58,470
We're an independent band rely
on value for value just like no

3365
03:12:58,470 --> 03:13:02,640
agenda search for fifth project
with a que on bandcamp.com to

3366
03:13:02,640 --> 03:13:05,370
have a listen that's fifth
project was okay we're on all

3367
03:13:05,370 --> 03:13:07,560
the socials to I've been
listening to this isn't I love

3368
03:13:07,560 --> 03:13:10,260
this note we've been listening
to no agenda regulations Adams

3369
03:13:10,260 --> 03:13:14,190
JRE debut so this is long
overdue. And this first time dee

3370
03:13:14,190 --> 03:13:21,420
doo dee doo suddenly comes with
a PhD but a proper knighting to

3371
03:13:21,450 --> 03:13:22,890
woohoo

3372
03:13:25,800 --> 03:13:29,790
John C Dvorak: when said WT C
seven you are yay oh really jobs

3373
03:13:29,790 --> 03:13:30,150
karma

3374
03:13:30,330 --> 03:13:36,150
Adam Curry: that's not on my
note oh oh shoot oh my god

3375
03:13:36,150 --> 03:13:40,830
that's it eat that wasn't even
on my cell that's how that's

3376
03:13:41,640 --> 03:13:41,970
that's

3377
03:13:41,970 --> 03:13:42,660
John C Dvorak: a big note. It's

3378
03:13:42,660 --> 03:13:43,740
Adam Curry: a big note here we
got

3379
03:13:43,740 --> 03:13:45,930
John C Dvorak: a guy to get
anyone credit who went through

3380
03:13:45,930 --> 03:13:51,840
who is art director. So yes,
honest with himself that he

3381
03:13:51,840 --> 03:13:54,360
figures you know, you can make
money other ways but he'll go

3382
03:13:54,360 --> 03:13:57,240
back into it. He's obviously a
talented person

3383
03:14:04,320 --> 03:14:08,340
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's

3384
03:14:11,490 --> 03:14:14,760
John C Dvorak: karma. On the
other extreme we have Alex

3385
03:14:14,790 --> 03:14:19,950
boorish with $1,000 No note is
very good. gobble up karma.

3386
03:14:19,980 --> 03:14:25,740
Unknown: You've got karma. Eric,
Eric

3387
03:14:25,740 --> 03:14:28,920
Adam Curry: Hall Bryner, South
Ogden, Utah 1000. In the morning

3388
03:14:28,950 --> 03:14:31,680
as a successful professional
procrastinator, I'm finally

3389
03:14:31,680 --> 03:14:37,230
funding my PhD tuition. Thank
you for your courage. Oh, I'm

3390
03:14:37,230 --> 03:14:42,090
sorry. Jingle requests. I'm
going to come I want to get rid

3391
03:14:42,090 --> 03:14:48,720
of that one. It's it's I can't
even find it half the time. It's

3392
03:14:48,720 --> 03:14:49,860
not that's not what it is.

3393
03:14:50,880 --> 03:14:53,850
John C Dvorak: Trump, Trump
probably Trump's the trump card.

3394
03:14:53,910 --> 03:14:58,830
Adam Curry: I can't find it.
Chase, hold on, hold on stupid.

3395
03:14:59,100 --> 03:15:03,000
I do not like this on Trump calm
and then go to screen. Okay, I'm

3396
03:15:03,000 --> 03:15:07,050
gonna come you've got

3397
03:15:10,230 --> 03:15:15,690
John C Dvorak: Todd Matera in
looks like oh, he's it and from

3398
03:15:15,690 --> 03:15:19,770
behind the lines in Chicago.
He's $1,000 Thank you both for

3399
03:15:19,770 --> 03:15:24,180
your service. Please Knight me
as Todd Zell the unvaccinated no

3400
03:15:24,180 --> 03:15:27,030
jingles no comment not an
anonymous donation Proud to

3401
03:15:27,030 --> 03:15:28,470
support you both. Thank

3402
03:15:28,470 --> 03:15:33,390
Adam Curry: you. James Bartels
1000 No location but he's been

3403
03:15:33,420 --> 03:15:36,510
listening since episode number
one thank you for all you do

3404
03:15:36,510 --> 03:15:41,460
Thank you James. Nice name sir
Jim of Casey stage hands needs

3405
03:15:41,460 --> 03:15:50,220
work. He says What is this stuff
and arrest him and arrest sounds

3406
03:15:50,220 --> 03:15:52,530
like and rest of time and
bulletproof coffee for the

3407
03:15:52,530 --> 03:15:55,710
roundtable jobs karma and goat
for everybody loves

3408
03:15:55,860 --> 03:16:00,090
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs

3409
03:16:05,640 --> 03:16:09,480
John C Dvorak: Megan Kenny first
time donations she came with

3410
03:16:09,480 --> 03:16:12,690
1000 Come to the no agenda
family in a roundabout way from

3411
03:16:12,690 --> 03:16:13,890
the Glenn Beck program.

3412
03:16:13,920 --> 03:16:15,210
Adam Curry: Oh there you are.

3413
03:16:15,750 --> 03:16:19,020
John C Dvorak: That does happen.
Worked out. I was hit in the

3414
03:16:19,020 --> 03:16:22,770
mouth by my best friend Karen. I
was taking a break from Glenn

3415
03:16:22,770 --> 03:16:26,610
Beck sometimes doom and gloom
but my friend was listening and

3416
03:16:26,610 --> 03:16:30,870
heard Adam sounding a lot like
me or was it may sound a lot

3417
03:16:30,870 --> 03:16:34,620
like Adam you either way she
knew right away you were my

3418
03:16:34,620 --> 03:16:38,190
people. I was listening to your
archives for 2020 to 21 and you

3419
03:16:38,190 --> 03:16:41,850
do sound like me? So it only
makes sense I should earn a

3420
03:16:41,850 --> 03:16:44,400
doctorate in media
deconstruction I look forward to

3421
03:16:44,400 --> 03:16:48,510
your episodes and thank you both
and the no agenda nation for all

3422
03:16:48,510 --> 03:16:54,930
you do she must be Dame Kenny of
the mega light Megalodon that's

3423
03:16:54,930 --> 03:16:58,410
the giant shark she'd like
Guinness and medium rare

3424
03:16:58,440 --> 03:17:01,890
tomahawk steak at the roundtable
and and these are all hell

3425
03:17:01,890 --> 03:17:04,590
breaking loose so you're going
to need a Bitcoin it's all gonna

3426
03:17:04,590 --> 03:17:07,200
die in yay stay strong.

3427
03:17:07,440 --> 03:17:08,130
Unknown: Yes

3428
03:17:09,240 --> 03:17:12,540
Adam Curry: that's Manning Yes.
Okay, I got those for you.

3429
03:17:13,980 --> 03:17:16,980
Unknown: That's and all hell is
gonna break loose and you're

3430
03:17:16,980 --> 03:17:17,880
gonna need a Bitcoin

3431
03:17:23,640 --> 03:17:27,660
Adam Curry: that's a good combo
is an interesting combo. Sir,

3432
03:17:28,050 --> 03:17:33,210
let me make sure I've got your
your rare Tomahawk, Guinness and

3433
03:17:33,210 --> 03:17:35,610
medium rare tomahawk steak, slay
it

3434
03:17:35,610 --> 03:17:39,300
John C Dvorak: and then I'm
gonna go to Sir Henry. He's in

3435
03:17:39,300 --> 03:17:42,840
Austin, Texas, right around the
corner from you. That donation

3436
03:17:42,840 --> 03:17:46,740
makes me a bear and gives me a
PhD and my happy man. Sir Henry.

3437
03:17:46,740 --> 03:17:48,810
That's the note we like. We

3438
03:17:48,810 --> 03:17:51,630
Adam Curry: do like that. Andrew
Herman Edmonton, Alberta,

3439
03:17:52,020 --> 03:17:55,920
Canada. Navia in the morning,
John. Thanks. My donation of

3440
03:17:55,920 --> 03:18:01,530
$1,046.31 That's Kanak bucks.
Canuck bucks, please add me to

3441
03:18:01,530 --> 03:18:05,190
the PhD and executive producer
ship and an instant knighting

3442
03:18:05,190 --> 03:18:10,800
list. A douche bag no more Sir
Andrew Herman Edmonton, Alberta.

3443
03:18:10,800 --> 03:18:11,220
I guess I'll give

3444
03:18:13,080 --> 03:18:14,940
Unknown: you Ben de deuced.

3445
03:18:16,500 --> 03:18:19,710
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he'll get
bumped up. Amy Thurmond in

3446
03:18:19,710 --> 03:18:26,370
Westfield, Indiana. 665 released
from AMI in Westfield, Indiana

3447
03:18:26,370 --> 03:18:29,760
could not meet the pod father in
December without first claiming

3448
03:18:29,760 --> 03:18:33,810
my dame ho. Ooh, she's gonna be
at the meet up. Yeah, my smokin

3449
03:18:33,810 --> 03:18:36,480
hot husband sir Craig of the
Dark Moon hit me in the mouth

3450
03:18:36,480 --> 03:18:40,890
years ago. I'm a better human
for it. Please bestow upon me

3451
03:18:40,890 --> 03:18:43,740
the title of Dame AMI of the
shining sea. I generally try to

3452
03:18:43,740 --> 03:18:47,700
stay healthy by limiting carbs,
fat sugar sodium. So at the

3453
03:18:47,700 --> 03:18:51,810
roundtable, I like to pay homage
to my Indian roots. And sorry,

3454
03:18:52,140 --> 03:18:56,490
India and Indiana is named after
Indians. And fortify my food

3455
03:18:56,490 --> 03:19:00,600
depraved soul by requesting a
giant breaded pork tenderloin,

3456
03:19:00,840 --> 03:19:05,580
and a chocolate Miracle Whip
cake. That'll do it. For all you

3457
03:19:05,580 --> 03:19:05,760
do.

3458
03:19:05,790 --> 03:19:10,170
Adam Curry: God we've got some
death bound here for you. Sir

3459
03:19:10,170 --> 03:19:13,890
Penton serpent serpentine sir
Lance interesting. Oh, it's a

3460
03:19:13,890 --> 03:19:16,470
switcheroo. Serpentine
Scarborough, Queensland,

3461
03:19:16,530 --> 03:19:21,630
Australia six five 4.32 clips of
cancer you've got karma we got

3462
03:19:21,630 --> 03:19:24,990
that for this is a switcheroo
donation from serpentine night

3463
03:19:24,990 --> 03:19:29,070
of the Ricoh the wreck lif
peninsular, I guess. This

3464
03:19:29,070 --> 03:19:33,720
donation of 1038 australian
dollar reduce is for my father,

3465
03:19:34,110 --> 03:19:37,650
soon to be incinerated sir Lance
Knight of the Northern Rivers.

3466
03:19:37,680 --> 03:19:41,310
Oh, that's just lovely. We'll
make sure we do that Phoebe is

3467
03:19:41,340 --> 03:19:44,730
going nuts. Please play him F
cancer and you've got karma

3468
03:19:44,730 --> 03:19:48,780
jingles I know you can defeat
this dad. We both enjoy your

3469
03:19:48,780 --> 03:19:51,990
entertaining informative podcast
immensely. I'm hoping that I

3470
03:19:51,990 --> 03:19:55,980
made it in time for a 1000
Aussie dollar do doctorate in pH

3471
03:19:55,980 --> 03:20:01,320
mediate Ph D, CB and Ph. D media
tickets. correction for my dad.

3472
03:20:01,560 --> 03:20:04,860
Yeah of course and here's here's
your F cancer it works

3473
03:20:12,210 --> 03:20:17,400
John C Dvorak: good John calibre
and Milwaukee Good girl. Three

3474
03:20:17,400 --> 03:20:21,690
Three YTM crackpot and buzzkill
doctrine during your shows on

3475
03:20:21,690 --> 03:20:26,640
Black Friday and Cyber Monday. I
had to donate value for value on

3476
03:20:26,640 --> 03:20:30,810
Wednesday. I've appreciate the
bi weekly deconstruction since

3477
03:20:30,810 --> 03:20:34,470
owning of your show and the
higher side chats Oh yes, I chat

3478
03:20:34,470 --> 03:20:38,490
donation of a couple of years
back, Adam. In my first donation

3479
03:20:38,490 --> 03:20:41,520
I asked what your favorite
conspiracy was and you said you

3480
03:20:41,520 --> 03:20:46,950
don't like them at all. So I'll
rephrase what conspiracy to find

3481
03:20:46,950 --> 03:20:51,450
the most interesting fake space
Hollow Earth Operation Highjump

3482
03:20:51,750 --> 03:20:54,780
there's got to be something Oh
John, I'm glad you brought back

3483
03:20:54,780 --> 03:20:57,810
to three by three and hope to
hear it more often. Jingles

3484
03:20:57,810 --> 03:21:02,550
climate gate chemtrails, Obama
sucking in such Thanks and enjoy

3485
03:21:02,550 --> 03:21:03,630
the holidays John.

3486
03:21:03,690 --> 03:21:06,270
Adam Curry: Yes, I would say
Operation Highjump is my

3487
03:21:06,270 --> 03:21:10,080
favorite to the gate to the gate

3488
03:21:21,930 --> 03:21:29,040
Joanne fortune is in where or
where North Hampshire 333. I've

3489
03:21:29,040 --> 03:21:31,170
listened to you live for the
last year and a half and you've

3490
03:21:31,170 --> 03:21:34,410
changed my life. I've moved to
the Freedom State of New

3491
03:21:34,410 --> 03:21:37,500
Hampshire and New Hampshire and
I go to the meetups you to rock

3492
03:21:37,500 --> 03:21:40,530
my world. Thank you. And thank
you for your courage and Thank

3493
03:21:40,530 --> 03:21:42,900
you Joanne I'm very nice note.
We

3494
03:21:42,900 --> 03:21:45,270
John C Dvorak: have Jackie
green, the famous guitarist in

3495
03:21:45,330 --> 03:21:51,300
orange Vale, California Jackie,
Jack, a jagged green 333 Love

3496
03:21:51,300 --> 03:21:52,740
you mean it perfect note,

3497
03:21:53,280 --> 03:21:56,370
Adam Curry: not as good as Tyler
home from Westminster, Colorado.

3498
03:21:56,490 --> 03:22:00,570
First Associate Executive
Producer 250 No notes. So you

3499
03:22:00,570 --> 03:22:05,790
gotta love karma. You've got
karma.

3500
03:22:06,900 --> 03:22:10,290
John C Dvorak: So let's see end
with Linda Lubetkin in Lakewood,

3501
03:22:10,290 --> 03:22:15,600
Colorado. 200. And she requests
jobs karma and wants to tell you

3502
03:22:15,810 --> 03:22:19,140
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Adam Curry: Well, thank you all
very much. This has been quite

3509
03:22:43,740 --> 03:22:49,230
the pre Christmas surprise. And
of course, everyone here who

3510
03:22:49,230 --> 03:22:51,930
came in with the correct amount
is going to get a PhD is a

3511
03:22:51,960 --> 03:22:56,220
rather long list of nice things,
and PhDs but I'm happy to do it.

3512
03:22:56,400 --> 03:22:59,400
We love you for it. We have
meetups to talk about as well,

3513
03:22:59,400 --> 03:23:02,610
there's so much so going on in
the no agenda show. But

3514
03:23:02,610 --> 03:23:05,490
especially to hang up i
executive and Associate

3515
03:23:05,490 --> 03:23:09,450
Executive producers, thank you
for supporting us, we enjoy

3516
03:23:09,480 --> 03:23:13,020
support from anybody the whole
point of value for value is you

3517
03:23:13,020 --> 03:23:17,730
give us what the show delivers
and value to you. That may just

3518
03:23:17,730 --> 03:23:21,660
be $5 a month. And if that's all
you can afford, we love you just

3519
03:23:21,660 --> 03:23:25,200
as much and appreciate you. You
don't have to be an executive

3520
03:23:25,200 --> 03:23:29,040
producer to help the show. In
fact, if every if everybody gave

3521
03:23:29,070 --> 03:23:32,700
us $5 It would be fantastic.
That never happened. So we

3522
03:23:32,700 --> 03:23:35,760
appreciate these execs and
associate execs for paying it

3523
03:23:35,760 --> 03:23:39,120
forward for others and of course
enjoying their their instant

3524
03:23:39,120 --> 03:23:44,220
Knights and Dames and their
PhDs. I'll get ready for the for

3525
03:23:44,220 --> 03:23:46,800
all the ceremonies. John will
take us through the very quick

3526
03:23:46,800 --> 03:23:48,330
smallest in the 50s Yeah,

3527
03:23:48,330 --> 03:23:50,580
John C Dvorak: the small list
leftover of people who just

3528
03:23:50,580 --> 03:23:53,520
donated the wishes while we're
all we're gonna get from now on.

3529
03:23:54,030 --> 03:23:58,080
Sure. Michael rag goose in
Tustin, California. $100 Happy

3530
03:23:58,080 --> 03:24:00,690
Holidays he says Kevin
McLaughlin does come in and

3531
03:24:00,690 --> 03:24:04,290
Concord North Carolina yet
another 808 What a great life is

3532
03:24:04,290 --> 03:24:08,910
better with boobs he says true.
Edward Owens 808 He's in

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Alameda. The island of boobs.
Diana Dana Dana Carroll in

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Laughlin, Nevada Laughlin 7227
Craig Kohler in Evansville,

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Indiana. 6502 sir. Pipe Nam pipe
Nam 61 Parts Unknown. Jamie

3536
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Buell in Vista California 606. A
boobs donation small and for

3537
03:24:35,850 --> 03:24:39,120
fact here it comes Kevin
McLaughlin once again at 606.

3538
03:24:39,660 --> 03:24:45,360
moves or the reason bras were
invented. He says surprise

3539
03:24:45,360 --> 03:24:51,210
nights surprise night and Yukon
Oklahoma 5444. Colleen Garrett

3540
03:24:51,210 --> 03:24:56,160
and Cary, North Carolina which
is where curiously near Kevin

3541
03:24:56,160 --> 03:24:59,970
McLaughlin, I believe that'd be
rotating me my gift to you 54

3542
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:04,200
dollars Eric Bogle in mole rose,
Deutschland, we haven't heard

3543
03:25:04,200 --> 03:25:07,980
from him for a while. And there
he is. And there he is with the

3544
03:25:07,980 --> 03:25:12,750
right spelling of his name yes
as a spreadsheet is beautiful 52

3545
03:25:13,140 --> 03:25:18,210
Scott Nelson and Council Bluffs,
Iowa 5001 And here we go

3546
03:25:18,210 --> 03:25:24,300
wrapping it up with $50 donators
starting with John Taylor in

3547
03:25:24,300 --> 03:25:28,770
Florissant, Colorado, Sir
Richard Gardner, I believe in

3548
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New York City, Aaron wise Gerber
in Bend, Oregon, Michael Elmore

3549
03:25:33,330 --> 03:25:38,400
in Gastonia North Carolina, Zev
green and Teaneck, New Jersey

3550
03:25:38,400 --> 03:25:44,820
David Steele in Mobile, Alabama.
automobile, Jason Kaler and

3551
03:25:44,820 --> 03:25:51,450
Bluffton, Indiana Ray Howard in
Kremmling. Colorado. Kyle Shaw

3552
03:25:51,450 --> 03:25:57,060
sharper is shaper in New Albany,
Ohio, as opposed to Oh lovely

3553
03:25:57,060 --> 03:26:03,210
Ohio and in the northwest. Julie
Mindanao Mina Dale in Costa

3554
03:26:03,210 --> 03:26:09,300
Mesa. Kyle mine in Cincinnati,
Ohio, Jill woods and Ocean

3555
03:26:09,300 --> 03:26:13,230
Grove, New Jersey, Brian
Laughlin Sugar Hill, Georgia and

3556
03:26:13,230 --> 03:26:19,050
last on our list, the inimitable
new Ryan sharp in Huntsville,

3557
03:26:19,050 --> 03:26:21,570
Alabama. I want to thank all
these people for making this a

3558
03:26:21,570 --> 03:26:25,800
great show this show 1612 And
this will make up for a lot of

3559
03:26:26,280 --> 03:26:28,260
slower shows coming

3560
03:26:29,040 --> 03:26:31,620
Adam Curry: and thank you again
to our executive and Associate

3561
03:26:31,620 --> 03:26:34,710
Executive Producers those titles
are real and you can use them

3562
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anywhere titles are recognized.
Of course that can be on your

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resume, it can be on your
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place to put it or if you don't
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profile on imdb.com It is
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show business heavyweights there
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3567
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you'd like to become a producer
of any amount, including under

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03:26:53,940 --> 03:26:58,800
$50 which are never mentioned
for anonymity reasons or please

3569
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think of the sustaining
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few dollars a month a week or
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vote.org/and Let me give
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3572
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you've got karma and thank you
for supporting no agenda Show

3573
03:27:16,470 --> 03:27:17,520
Episode Six.

3574
03:27:19,320 --> 03:27:23,670
Unknown: Our formula is this. We
go out. We hit people in the

3575
03:27:23,670 --> 03:27:23,970
mouth

3576
03:27:43,380 --> 03:27:45,990
Adam Curry: we got lots of lists
of lists birthdays today faith

3577
03:27:45,990 --> 03:27:49,830
and bizarre wishes Dave was your
Happy Birthday turned 50 on the

3578
03:27:49,830 --> 03:27:54,930
23rd Tim Bob way Boston Shotzi
Live Happy Birthday to his wife

3579
03:27:54,930 --> 03:27:57,960
by Countess Marianne
Schneeberger to celebrate on the

3580
03:27:57,960 --> 03:28:02,940
25th Aaron Berger is celebrating
or celebrating the 2018 SLV

3581
03:28:02,940 --> 03:28:07,680
wishes. Thailand Selby Happy
Birthday turned 33 on the 28th

3582
03:28:07,800 --> 03:28:11,130
Colleen Garrett celebrated
yesterday served on wishes his

3583
03:28:11,130 --> 03:28:14,760
smokin hot milk fiance Dame
Audra of Legoland a happy

3584
03:28:14,760 --> 03:28:19,110
birthday turning 45 tomorrow and
pluma says Happy Birthday to

3585
03:28:19,110 --> 03:28:23,670
Kenny rego turning 40 on January
4 Happy birthday from everybody

3586
03:28:23,670 --> 03:28:30,270
here the best podcast in the
universe to gather around

3587
03:28:30,270 --> 03:28:37,350
douchebag producer is we all
think your brothers and sisters

3588
03:28:37,740 --> 03:28:49,410
good. Them Nice. So the title of
my request we bring in the Bob

3589
03:28:49,410 --> 03:28:53,580
Dylan titles are changing we
have title changes for sank Sir

3590
03:28:53,580 --> 03:28:57,480
Frank Azim Stott will become
becomes Duke of frankness or

3591
03:28:57,480 --> 03:29:01,200
midnight of the rivers becomes
baronet's or Jason rivers. Sir

3592
03:29:01,200 --> 03:29:04,890
Dave, the reformed becomes a
Baronet you become sir Dave, the

3593
03:29:04,890 --> 03:29:10,440
reformed Baronet and Sir Henry
becomes a baron. All right time

3594
03:29:10,440 --> 03:29:14,520
now to congratulate our Ph. D.
Graduates. Frank Azim start

3595
03:29:14,520 --> 03:29:18,420
Robert Dawson Derek Haydn. Brink
Bluma Kurt Pettis, Kevin

3596
03:29:18,420 --> 03:29:23,400
McLaughlin biolife member jury
Matt Liebig, Justin Frank Paul

3597
03:29:23,400 --> 03:29:27,690
gar sir midnight of the river
Sir Don M. Scott Clark jackass,

3598
03:29:27,690 --> 03:29:32,040
sir Fosgate Johansson, Andy
Cocker recode, something like

3599
03:29:32,040 --> 03:29:36,060
that, sir Dave, the reformed
Baronet robbing Robson, Tom

3600
03:29:36,060 --> 03:29:40,950
Remco, to Freya wild dirt co.com
via account of Hamilton de Missy

3601
03:29:40,950 --> 03:29:45,510
anonymous Mike De Nicola
Schroeder, sir pants, Quinn y

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03:29:45,510 --> 03:29:50,550
Newell Henry caca Zoli resolvent
Technologies Inc. Daniel Lawson

3603
03:29:50,550 --> 03:29:56,100
Aaron Burr Kez sir Yogi sir
Bucha of RVA Joe Michael Halabi

3604
03:29:56,100 --> 03:30:01,080
Jonathan Lang Scott McNulty,
Alex alreay Eric halberda Todd

3605
03:30:01,080 --> 03:30:06,360
massira James Bartels, Margaret
Kenny Sir Henry Andrew Herman

3606
03:30:06,360 --> 03:30:11,700
army Thurman, Amy Thurman, sir
LANSON sir ass crack welcome new

3607
03:30:11,700 --> 03:30:16,680
no agenda MD PhD just society of
the learner person you've got in

3608
03:30:16,680 --> 03:30:19,680
just under the wire. We
congratulate you and say from

3609
03:30:19,680 --> 03:30:24,240
this point forward go forth and
spread the word far and wide

3610
03:30:24,240 --> 03:30:26,640
because we will not be silenced.
We will not be deterred the

3611
03:30:26,640 --> 03:30:32,940
truth is out there now go and
find it. Glad I can retire this.

3612
03:30:33,570 --> 03:30:36,390
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I hopefully
we missed anybody. I hope

3613
03:30:37,440 --> 03:30:41,820
Adam Curry: we got everybody. I
even have Jay texting me on the

3614
03:30:41,820 --> 03:30:45,330
fly with some nights that had
missed the list. So let's do

3615
03:30:45,330 --> 03:30:50,070
them. Now that I have everything
completed. Let's get up. This is

3616
03:30:50,070 --> 03:30:50,820
my blade.

3617
03:30:51,690 --> 03:30:52,290
John C Dvorak: Here's mine.

3618
03:30:53,430 --> 03:30:55,110
Adam Curry: To pick it up. Get
the get the bigger one.

3619
03:30:55,140 --> 03:30:59,280
John C Dvorak: You take it, hold
it and just keep it. Okay.

3620
03:30:59,310 --> 03:31:01,860
Adam Curry: All that feels kind
of good. Up on the podium,

3621
03:31:01,860 --> 03:31:07,230
please. Miss Amy Thurman. Robber
Dawson. Derek. Hi, bring Kurt

3622
03:31:07,230 --> 03:31:11,820
pedis VIOLIFE member jury Justin
Frank Paul gar M Scott Clark,

3623
03:31:12,060 --> 03:31:16,620
Jack Asch. Robin Robson, Tom
Remco. To failure five Viber

3624
03:31:16,620 --> 03:31:20,820
anonymous, Mike D. Daniel
Lawson. Aaron Baraka Says Joe

3625
03:31:20,820 --> 03:31:25,590
Jonathan Lang, Scott McNulty,
Todd macera, James Bartels,

3626
03:31:26,040 --> 03:31:30,450
Margaret Kenny, Chris Fosgate
Joel Hansen, sir Schmoll Andrew,

3627
03:31:30,450 --> 03:31:34,170
Herman, and Lance all of you are
about to become knights in

3628
03:31:34,170 --> 03:31:37,440
danger the no agenda roundtable
I am very proud to pronounce the

3629
03:31:37,440 --> 03:31:41,730
cage the as Robert Dawson sir
Derek protector of the star

3630
03:31:41,730 --> 03:31:45,090
lakes terrain the kingmaker,
PhD, sir curl the wagons

3631
03:31:45,090 --> 03:31:48,600
protector of the Missouri Ozarks
from the Mobley south to Branson

3632
03:31:48,780 --> 03:31:53,640
Sir Yes sir Viper 515 Wandering
Sasquatch of the Gardena,

3633
03:31:53,640 --> 03:31:58,410
Snohomish, and what Agha valleys
Sir Robin of the wack Chilliwack

3634
03:31:58,590 --> 03:32:02,610
can the Navia Sir Thomas Lord of
the ham radio hobbits sir Remco

3635
03:32:02,610 --> 03:32:06,090
Knight of the Tissa and the
Spanish refuge of Rivera dubare

3636
03:32:06,090 --> 03:32:10,230
de Burgh sure my brother still
waters sir big A sir Mike D of

3637
03:32:10,230 --> 03:32:13,980
the 7 Billion Rising sir love
and Baron of Bay Ridge and Kings

3638
03:32:13,980 --> 03:32:18,390
County New York City knights
Filipino Phillip Phillip Hello

3639
03:32:18,660 --> 03:32:22,740
of the barber a plane sir jolly
the brave of the main mountain

3640
03:32:22,740 --> 03:32:27,930
sir no pool No please. Sir Scott
Oh matric of the Scandinavian

3641
03:32:27,930 --> 03:32:31,650
high ground sir Todd sold the
unvaccinated sir Jim of the KC

3642
03:32:31,650 --> 03:32:37,200
stagehands game Kenny of the
mega magala mix Megalodon Sir

3643
03:32:37,200 --> 03:32:40,380
Chris Knight of the Kansas City
Real Estate search mall Sir

3644
03:32:40,380 --> 03:32:43,620
Andrew Herman and Sir Lance
Knight of the Northern Rivers

3645
03:32:43,620 --> 03:32:46,770
and for you we have lined up
here at the roundtable. Let me

3646
03:32:46,770 --> 03:32:56,340
stop that for a second. We have
some hookers and blow right boys

3647
03:32:56,340 --> 03:33:00,480
and Chardonnay. We also have a
high mountain or long German

3648
03:33:00,480 --> 03:33:04,530
bald Mezcal parrots Bay coconut
rum, 90 Proof barks red cream

3649
03:33:04,530 --> 03:33:08,130
soda West Milton, Ohio,
Firemen's waffles, durian Guney

3650
03:33:08,130 --> 03:33:11,550
and his hot wife on a platter
Kirilenko burger from the

3651
03:33:11,550 --> 03:33:15,000
bareback grill pizza port beer
buddies Jagger fries from Fred's

3652
03:33:15,000 --> 03:33:18,090
river town Ale House and Apex
IPA from the sound to summit

3653
03:33:18,090 --> 03:33:21,720
brewing quest, Keystone light
and kibbles glass of tepid water

3654
03:33:21,720 --> 03:33:25,290
and a wine bottle ventola guys
with pork and green sauce and a

3655
03:33:25,290 --> 03:33:30,150
glass of Colton, Hachi and, and
riqueza Tam and bulletproof

3656
03:33:30,150 --> 03:33:33,510
coffee giant breaded pork 10 to
one chocolate miracle web cake,

3657
03:33:33,540 --> 03:33:36,720
bacon cheeseburger and a Chateau
Latour and a Guinness and a

3658
03:33:36,720 --> 03:33:41,520
medium rare tomahawk steak. And
of course, mutton and Mead,

3659
03:33:41,820 --> 03:33:46,200
please go to no agenda rings.com
That is where you will find.

3660
03:33:47,100 --> 03:33:49,500
Well, first of all beautiful
pictures of the night and Dame

3661
03:33:49,500 --> 03:33:52,380
rings, you can see that if you
fill out your ring size, there's

3662
03:33:52,380 --> 03:33:55,470
a handy ring sizing guide there
send us your address, we will

3663
03:33:55,470 --> 03:33:58,500
send you the note and the knight
or Dame ring, whichever one you

3664
03:33:58,500 --> 03:34:02,100
want. We don't discriminate and
along with a certificate of

3665
03:34:02,100 --> 03:34:04,620
authenticity and some wax to
seal your important

3666
03:34:04,620 --> 03:34:08,190
correspondence with if you have
a PhD, go to the same website no

3667
03:34:08,190 --> 03:34:12,180
agenda rings.com Select the PhD
so and of course put in the name

3668
03:34:12,180 --> 03:34:14,910
that you want to on on your
certificate. And we'll send that

3669
03:34:14,910 --> 03:34:18,120
out to the address you provide
as well. Thank you all so much

3670
03:34:18,120 --> 03:34:20,280
for supporting your no agenda
show.

3671
03:34:20,790 --> 03:34:21,090
Unknown: No

3672
03:34:27,600 --> 03:34:30,120
Adam Curry: you're not done with
me yet. No, no, no, you're not

3673
03:34:30,120 --> 03:34:33,120
known. We got some meetups and
meetups today the Mile High meet

3674
03:34:33,120 --> 03:34:36,870
up 630 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in
Denver, Colorado. We have in

3675
03:34:36,870 --> 03:34:39,930
tilbyr Probably over by now but
they may be listening all

3676
03:34:39,930 --> 03:34:43,080
stoned. The one week after
another Parliament election in

3677
03:34:43,080 --> 03:34:44,880
the Netherlands meetup it
started at eight o'clock at the

3678
03:34:44,880 --> 03:34:48,120
beer Cafe Kandinsky in Tilburg,
the Netherlands tomorrow, the

3679
03:34:48,120 --> 03:34:53,910
Thanksgiving therapy meet up 630
At I Stromer brewery in St.

3680
03:34:53,910 --> 03:34:57,690
Gabriel, Louisiana on Friday as
well the Fort Wayne Aubert,

3681
03:34:57,690 --> 03:35:02,160
Bluffton Busto, no agenda Up 33
meet at one o'clock crazy pins

3682
03:35:02,160 --> 03:35:05,550
Fort Wayne, Indiana. On Saturday
the Connecticut ugly sweater

3683
03:35:05,550 --> 03:35:08,880
party two o'clock at the truck
Park in Hagen him Connecticut

3684
03:35:08,910 --> 03:35:13,230
beach girls organizing the 208
Treasure Valley Boise meet up

3685
03:35:13,230 --> 03:35:16,410
three o'clock on Saturday at the
polar powder house brewery,

3686
03:35:16,410 --> 03:35:19,620
Garden City, Idaho. And on
Sunday, the next show day a meet

3687
03:35:19,620 --> 03:35:22,620
up in Cheyenne one o'clock and
that'll be at Chronicles

3688
03:35:22,620 --> 03:35:26,040
distillery in Cheyenne, Wyoming.
And a reminder on Monday,

3689
03:35:26,040 --> 03:35:30,120
December 4, Indianapolis,
Indiana, it will be a no agenda

3690
03:35:30,120 --> 03:35:33,510
mean up there's about 75 or 80
people are expected we'll be

3691
03:35:33,510 --> 03:35:36,960
doing a live ask Adam on stage
and the keeper will be with me.

3692
03:35:36,960 --> 03:35:40,410
That's it. You're no agenda
meetups. This is what you need.

3693
03:35:40,410 --> 03:35:43,650
As a companion to the show.
Everybody knows it. In fact, the

3694
03:35:43,650 --> 03:35:46,770
Indiana meetup was started
because Mark and Maria we talked

3695
03:35:46,770 --> 03:35:49,230
to them we had a Zoom meeting to
make sure they want to make sure

3696
03:35:49,230 --> 03:35:52,200
we were comfortable with
everything. They started the

3697
03:35:52,200 --> 03:35:55,560
Indianapolis Indy meetup,
because they felt that they

3698
03:35:55,560 --> 03:35:58,800
needed to have people and a
community in case we went

3699
03:35:58,800 --> 03:36:01,050
through something we went
through in the past three years.

3700
03:36:01,260 --> 03:36:03,900
And I really respect that and
they know what the slogan is.

3701
03:36:03,900 --> 03:36:06,990
Connection is protection. No
agenda meetups.com If you can't

3702
03:36:06,990 --> 03:36:09,750
find one near you start one
yourself. It's easy and always

3703
03:36:09,750 --> 03:36:23,430
guaranteed a party with Tyson
days you'd be triggered. You

3704
03:36:23,430 --> 03:36:31,770
want to be buddy feels the same.
Is like a bar. Now I got a

3705
03:36:31,770 --> 03:36:37,230
couple of couple of ISOs I want
to fly by you see if you'd like

3706
03:36:37,230 --> 03:36:38,100
any of them ready?

3707
03:36:38,670 --> 03:36:42,270
John C Dvorak: Sure. I think the
proof is in the pudding. It's

3708
03:36:42,270 --> 03:36:43,290
not bad. Okay.

3709
03:36:44,700 --> 03:36:49,680
Adam Curry: Next one. Wow. Whoa,
look at that. And then maybe

3710
03:36:49,680 --> 03:36:50,070
this one

3711
03:36:54,540 --> 03:36:55,650
John C Dvorak: that was an
audible.

3712
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Adam Curry: I know it was a
podcast. Police put the mics

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03:36:58,350 --> 03:37:00,960
down. Yes. Hi. What's your All
right.

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03:37:00,960 --> 03:37:03,210
John C Dvorak: Well, I think I
beat all those. I probably.

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03:37:04,470 --> 03:37:11,220
Let's start with what is the
offbeat goal? Tao oh gosh. Oh,

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03:37:12,720 --> 03:37:13,860
Adam Curry: yes. Yeah, that's

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03:37:13,860 --> 03:37:17,490
John C Dvorak: out. Finish go to
the obvious. Thank you. Thank

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03:37:17,490 --> 03:37:21,960
you. That's cute. Cute. And then
unbelievable.

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03:37:22,020 --> 03:37:24,240
Unknown: Literally unbelievable.
That's the

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03:37:24,240 --> 03:37:27,360
Adam Curry: best one. It's the
clearest. It punches through

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03:37:27,360 --> 03:37:30,720
everything. And we are literally
unbelievable, literally

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03:37:30,720 --> 03:37:36,090
unbelievable. I think that's the
one for us. Everyone. Tell me

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03:37:36,090 --> 03:37:37,530
you got a good news clip. John.

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03:37:37,950 --> 03:37:42,690
John C Dvorak: I always have a
good news clip. If I didn't

3725
03:37:42,690 --> 03:37:46,080
notice something you should be
no this is from the Norville

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03:37:46,110 --> 03:37:50,880
insight edition. When you have
syndicated network shows, they

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03:37:50,880 --> 03:37:55,890
keep it short and sweet to
local. Good news goes on for

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03:37:55,890 --> 03:37:59,280
five minutes. They talk to the
neighbors. Oh, we can't have

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03:37:59,280 --> 03:38:02,340
Adam Curry: that. They can't
keep it tight, locally. tight.

3730
03:38:02,340 --> 03:38:03,480
Keep it tight people.

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03:38:03,930 --> 03:38:05,220
John C Dvorak: So here we go.
Heroes

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03:38:05,220 --> 03:38:07,680
Unknown: can be found
everywhere. This one was behind

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03:38:07,680 --> 03:38:10,530
the wheel of a truck when a
woman who was choking approached

3734
03:38:10,590 --> 03:38:14,730
Tamra Gagliano. He's now being
called an angel. You're probably

3735
03:38:14,730 --> 03:38:18,090
not used to seeing a truck
driver like this chilling out to

3736
03:38:18,090 --> 03:38:24,300
classical violin in his big rig.
But his moment of calm is

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03:38:24,300 --> 03:38:27,930
suddenly disrupted. A Woman
Pulls up in front of his truck.

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03:38:28,080 --> 03:38:31,830
She is in obvious distress. The
truck driver saw she had one

3739
03:38:31,830 --> 03:38:34,590
hand to her throat and she
raised both hands. She was

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03:38:34,590 --> 03:38:38,640
giving him the international
symbol for choking. He jumps out

3741
03:38:38,640 --> 03:38:41,760
of his truck and immediately
realizes it's a life or death

3742
03:38:41,760 --> 03:38:45,480
crisis. Then he grabs her from
behind and administers the life

3743
03:38:45,480 --> 03:38:49,980
saving Heimlich maneuver with
three thrusts under the ribcage

3744
03:38:50,040 --> 03:38:54,330
and out came the fast food she
was choking on in an instant the

3745
03:38:54,330 --> 03:38:57,570
ordeal was over when the truck
driver escorted her back to her

3746
03:38:57,570 --> 03:39:03,240
car. He noticed two toddlers in
the backseat. Today cement truck

3747
03:39:03,240 --> 03:39:04,800
driver Jeff hanis

3748
03:39:04,830 --> 03:39:08,250
was in the right place the right
time. And I did in my opinion

3749
03:39:08,250 --> 03:39:09,510
what most would have done

3750
03:39:09,750 --> 03:39:14,760
a humble hero and for that good
deed the Chicago Bulls gave Jeff

3751
03:39:14,760 --> 03:39:16,530
and his family courtside seats.

3752
03:39:17,520 --> 03:39:21,750
John C Dvorak: What do we want?
And what when they left out?

3753
03:39:23,250 --> 03:39:26,670
They left out the part where the
Chicago Bulls game the courtside

3754
03:39:26,670 --> 03:39:30,210
seats because the Chicago Bulls
are chokers.

3755
03:39:32,160 --> 03:39:37,020
Adam Curry: I liked I liked that
it was a great good news story.

3756
03:39:37,260 --> 03:39:40,410
I liked the part about the
international sign for choking

3757
03:39:40,410 --> 03:39:45,630
which I didn't know that either
International and that she was

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03:39:45,630 --> 03:39:50,040
choking on some fast food. This
was a dynamite and to this

3759
03:39:50,280 --> 03:39:55,530
16 112 episode of the no agenda
show. Of course we have endless

3760
03:39:55,530 --> 03:39:59,250
show mixes coming up by request
we got sound guy Steve, we got

3761
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:05,460
Um Oh we have the an AI mix from
coconut peak which is kind of

3762
03:40:05,460 --> 03:40:09,120
funny. End of show mix from the
clip custodian Neal Jones and

3763
03:40:09,120 --> 03:40:15,390
serve Dr. Ai on the no agenda
stream.com website or troll

3764
03:40:15,390 --> 03:40:20,580
room.io of next we have
unrelenting that's where that's

3765
03:40:20,580 --> 03:40:24,150
with Darren UNASUR gene. All
right, that should be beautiful.

3766
03:40:24,330 --> 03:40:27,480
Thank you all so much for some
celebrating your PhDs with us

3767
03:40:27,480 --> 03:40:30,300
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3768
03:40:30,300 --> 03:40:33,120
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3769
03:40:33,120 --> 03:40:35,910
six in the morning everybody.
I'm Adam curry

3770
03:40:36,150 --> 03:40:39,090
John C Dvorak: live in northern
Silicon Valley and Jhansi Dvorak

3771
03:40:39,240 --> 03:40:39,810
meet us

3772
03:40:39,810 --> 03:40:42,240
Adam Curry: back here again on
Sunday we'll be right back we'll

3773
03:40:42,240 --> 03:40:45,390
do another three hours of media
deconstruction for you remember

3774
03:40:45,390 --> 03:40:49,470
us in the meantime@devora.org
slash na no agenda donation.com

3775
03:40:49,620 --> 03:40:53,760
Until then adios mofos or who we
answer

3776
03:41:13,800 --> 03:41:59,280
Unknown: Right. Add

3777
03:42:04,830 --> 03:42:06,120
some new steps

3778
03:42:14,520 --> 03:42:17,970
did you know there are over 40
different types of melons out

3779
03:42:17,970 --> 03:42:18,720
there Kevin

3780
03:42:18,720 --> 03:42:21,150
John C Dvorak: McLaughlin in
Concord North Carolina says

3781
03:42:21,150 --> 03:42:24,150
honeydew melons he just wrote
that in there for some reason.

3782
03:42:24,180 --> 03:42:27,960
He likes melons, Golden
Delicious melons, the Gallia

3783
03:42:27,960 --> 03:42:32,910
melon, corn, melons, man melons
that are there in the world.

3784
03:42:32,910 --> 03:42:37,860
There are over four different
types of melons to show off your

3785
03:42:37,860 --> 03:42:43,920
melons ladies, honey globe,
melons, honey globe and melons,

3786
03:42:43,950 --> 03:42:48,660
tasty camouflage melons, peppers
and aisle three camouflage

3787
03:42:48,660 --> 03:42:55,020
melons Jade. Melon donation Jade
do is another literal melon and

3788
03:42:55,020 --> 03:42:57,720
I've had those are pretty good.
I think the trustor mountains my

3789
03:42:57,720 --> 03:42:58,110
favorite.

3790
03:42:58,530 --> 03:42:59,670
Adam Curry: You just love
melons,

3791
03:42:59,850 --> 03:43:04,770
John C Dvorak: the Picasso melon
Calabash melons, that's Calabash

3792
03:43:04,800 --> 03:43:08,820
melons, the kiss melon has got a
big tongue that comes out of it

3793
03:43:08,820 --> 03:43:13,710
the papaya melon, the bailin
melon that you Bari Kingdom

3794
03:43:13,710 --> 03:43:17,850
melon autumn sweets, Autumn
sweets, the melon of choice for

3795
03:43:17,850 --> 03:43:21,720
connoisseurs to get to run out
of melons by the melons

3796
03:43:21,840 --> 03:43:29,370
varieties. I think this
watermelon yet exactly. Can tall

3797
03:43:29,370 --> 03:43:31,500
a melon another one I've never
heard of.

3798
03:43:31,650 --> 03:43:34,230
Adam Curry: But how long will he
be able to come up with melon

3799
03:43:34,230 --> 03:43:34,740
names?

3800
03:43:36,120 --> 03:43:37,500
John C Dvorak: Korean melons

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03:43:37,530 --> 03:43:39,330
Adam Curry: I love his melon
assortment

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03:43:39,390 --> 03:43:43,830
John C Dvorak: GAC mellitus, the
ananassa melon zero had won the

3803
03:43:43,830 --> 03:43:48,210
sprite melon or Charentais
melons which is literally a

3804
03:43:48,210 --> 03:43:52,170
melon Kevin McLaughlin is back
this time promoting this snap

3805
03:43:52,170 --> 03:43:55,050
melon for you keep his score.
Melon

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03:43:55,050 --> 03:43:57,360
Adam Curry: children today they
think the internet is their

3807
03:43:57,360 --> 03:44:03,390
iPhone. Hey, I got Google I got
the internet ticket apps.

3808
03:44:05,370 --> 03:44:06,810
Unknown: Apps come on

3809
03:44:08,100 --> 03:44:10,050
John C Dvorak: the web was the
internet too if you really want

3810
03:44:10,050 --> 03:44:10,530
to go back

3811
03:44:11,790 --> 03:44:17,190
Adam Curry: was it still is the
web ever implies the web. But

3812
03:44:17,190 --> 03:44:22,380
the web is an open communication
hyperlinking system that runs

3813
03:44:22,380 --> 03:44:24,690
John C Dvorak: on the internet
on top of the internet yet but

3814
03:44:24,690 --> 03:44:25,380
it's it's

3815
03:44:25,410 --> 03:44:29,940
Adam Curry: it's one step closer
to. It's not a platform. The web

3816
03:44:29,940 --> 03:44:33,540
is not a platform. Twitter is a
platform. Facebook is a

3817
03:44:33,540 --> 03:44:37,230
platform. Google is a platform,
your iPhone App Store is a

3818
03:44:37,230 --> 03:44:41,670
platform. These are platforms
that they will regulate to to

3819
03:44:41,670 --> 03:44:47,310
their own desire. The web is
still the last place Trump

3820
03:44:49,170 --> 03:44:57,090
Unknown: is telling us what he
attends. Trump means to throw

3821
03:44:57,090 --> 03:45:00,120
people in jail who disagree with
them. To

3822
03:45:03,720 --> 03:45:07,740
listen to what he says because
he's telling us what he will do

3823
03:45:12,840 --> 03:45:17,100
he says let's remove all doubt
this is what I'm about this is

3824
03:45:17,100 --> 03:45:27,180
what I'm about this will execute
to whatever Geez Oh wow

3825
03:45:31,050 --> 03:45:34,590
take him at his word. Boom.

3826
03:45:36,540 --> 03:45:39,690
predilection predilection for

3827
03:45:42,930 --> 03:45:47,760
revenge past

3828
03:45:53,220 --> 03:45:54,990
Trump is telling us

3829
03:46:00,420 --> 03:46:01,140
to be eliminated

3830
03:46:12,480 --> 03:46:15,480
forex.org/and

3831
03:46:15,540 --> 03:46:18,840
A literally unbelievable