1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,390 John C Dvorak: They can't stop losing weight. Adam curry, John 2 00:00:03,390 --> 00:00:04,110 C. Devora 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,380 Adam Curry: November 9 2023 This is your award winning keep our 4 00:00:07,380 --> 00:00:10,710 nation media and assassination episode 1606 5 00:00:10,740 --> 00:00:14,490 Unknown: This is no agenda protecting you 6 00:00:14,490 --> 00:00:17,460 Adam Curry: from drama based entertainment and broadcasting 7 00:00:17,460 --> 00:00:20,280 live from the heart of the country here and femur into 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,760 number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry and 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,040 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,360 wondering, When did Captain Marvel become a chick and why 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,270 she's selling me signs. I'm John C. Dvorak. 12 00:00:33,900 --> 00:00:35,400 Unknown: Raglan Buzzkill. 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,160 Adam Curry: She's selling Nissan's are nice socks. I 14 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:43,950 couldn't hear if it was Nissan's are nice socks and what's the 15 00:00:43,950 --> 00:00:46,290 difference? Nissan's 16 00:00:46,620 --> 00:00:47,340 John C Dvorak: Nissan's 17 00:00:48,810 --> 00:00:52,320 Adam Curry: they kind of slipped that in. Now. That's it. And 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,660 isn't that isn't that all Disney now Marvel is going so well with 19 00:00:57,660 --> 00:01:02,460 them. It's working so it's working out? Well for them? Yes, 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,160 John C Dvorak: they have you know the dying cash cow. 21 00:01:05,190 --> 00:01:07,290 Adam Curry: Do you remember my buddy the entertainment mogul? 22 00:01:07,740 --> 00:01:10,170 Yes. Who got fired from from Disney. 23 00:01:10,290 --> 00:01:12,510 John C Dvorak: And he was right. Specifically the part of the 24 00:01:12,540 --> 00:01:13,710 comic book. Yeah, it was part 25 00:01:13,710 --> 00:01:16,260 Adam Curry: of the Marvel comic book division. So from what I 26 00:01:16,260 --> 00:01:18,240 understand, you know, there's that activist investor, what's 27 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,770 the guy's name? He keeps buying up shares, Nelson Nelson, 28 00:01:22,770 --> 00:01:27,960 something like that or no. So the word is that like, he's the 29 00:01:27,990 --> 00:01:33,420 he's the like the 8089 year old guy who, who, who owned Marvel 30 00:01:33,420 --> 00:01:36,780 sold us to Disney and then got fired. That they're trying to do 31 00:01:36,780 --> 00:01:40,800 a you know, like a leveraged buyout. A buyback Yeah. Buy out 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,950 the buyout all of Disney with now with that Nelson guy. 33 00:01:45,420 --> 00:01:47,160 John C Dvorak: That would be pretty spectacular. If they did. 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,600 That'd be very difficult. 35 00:01:48,660 --> 00:01:50,580 Adam Curry: I think it's difficult to but the Nelson guy 36 00:01:50,580 --> 00:01:53,100 apparently he's got he's got a lot of shares. He's got a lot of 37 00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:58,050 control. Yeah. So my guy is not officially involved. But I 38 00:01:58,050 --> 00:02:00,180 John C Dvorak: did buy out, buy him out and do what? 39 00:02:01,620 --> 00:02:03,720 Adam Curry: Get rid of all the woke people 40 00:02:05,430 --> 00:02:07,710 John C Dvorak: was in the whole company for the whole company. 41 00:02:08,220 --> 00:02:10,080 Adam Curry: There's nothing left. Nothing 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,670 John C Dvorak: left. Bones. 43 00:02:13,470 --> 00:02:19,620 Adam Curry: Dry Bones rattling? Yeah. Let me just start off by 44 00:02:19,620 --> 00:02:22,380 saying everybody don't worry, the US government is not going 45 00:02:22,380 --> 00:02:27,450 to be taking over the internet next week. Holy crap. Did you 46 00:02:27,450 --> 00:02:28,530 follow this? 47 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,680 John C Dvorak: No, I didn't. And I've avoided it. Now you might 48 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:32,490 as well do it. 49 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,220 Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, I'm no, there's not much. I mean, I 50 00:02:35,340 --> 00:02:40,110 here's what happened. So the Hill Country ladies text message 51 00:02:40,110 --> 00:02:44,430 group goes nuts. Tina texts me. She says, hey, they're saying 52 00:02:44,430 --> 00:02:47,910 the US government's taking over the internet next week. Like, 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:48,300 oh, 54 00:02:48,900 --> 00:02:50,940 John C Dvorak: did they know that the US government was the 55 00:02:50,940 --> 00:02:52,950 internet for a while. They know that? 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,950 Adam Curry: This isn't I don't even go there. Of like, Oh, 57 00:02:55,950 --> 00:03:00,360 okay. Yeah. But you know, the way that sounds is like, Oh, 58 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,310 what are they going to do now? I immediately think net 59 00:03:02,310 --> 00:03:05,550 neutrality, something like that. Because the FCC is working on 60 00:03:05,550 --> 00:03:09,330 that, apparently was Glenn Beck, who's who said that? Like, yeah, 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,900 the US government is taking over the internet next week. And 62 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:16,890 although what is wrong, what's going on here? The the FCC is 63 00:03:16,890 --> 00:03:22,290 trying to get kind of a backdoor into title two without having 64 00:03:22,290 --> 00:03:26,790 Congress passed title two. And so the and so Biden came out 65 00:03:26,790 --> 00:03:32,160 with an executive order that that activates a little oh, what 66 00:03:32,190 --> 00:03:36,120 another little unknown fact in the infrastructure act, you 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:42,390 know, the Greenie bill, which instructs the FCC to basically 68 00:03:42,390 --> 00:03:47,520 force with you know, with a $56 billion budget, which was 69 00:03:47,790 --> 00:03:51,450 assigned to them as a part of that trillion dollar bill to 70 00:03:51,450 --> 00:03:59,130 force equity into broadband access. So what we'll do now 71 00:03:59,130 --> 00:04:02,190 that I looked through all I looked at the executive order, I 72 00:04:02,190 --> 00:04:05,910 looked through the FCC documents, there's no traffic 73 00:04:05,910 --> 00:04:10,860 management or unlawful content anywhere in those documents yet, 74 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,460 but it does seem like they're going to force commercial 75 00:04:14,460 --> 00:04:18,630 companies to do stuff, which is wrong by itself, but it's not 76 00:04:18,630 --> 00:04:23,340 quite the government taking over the internet, which is just one 77 00:04:23,340 --> 00:04:26,640 of those memes and people go crazy. They get all spun up over 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,330 it's like calm down people. Lawsuits will ensue. Oh, of 79 00:04:30,330 --> 00:04:34,620 course this will go nowhere. It's the same as I love the 80 00:04:34,620 --> 00:04:42,690 disinformation they passed. They passed the bill where were you 81 00:04:42,690 --> 00:04:45,930 car has to have a some kind of alcohol detection device you 82 00:04:45,930 --> 00:04:50,400 won't start. It's like they passed that two years ago. But 83 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,080 no one knew no one Massey I guess tried to get an amendment 84 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,560 which of course was struck down. I'm like, Yeah, of course. It's 85 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,050 gonna get struck down not a single One of these Congress, 86 00:05:01,170 --> 00:05:06,060 men or women want Mothers Against Drunk drivers, you know, 87 00:05:06,810 --> 00:05:10,530 protesting outside your door you look like a douchebag and you 88 00:05:10,530 --> 00:05:13,380 get Code Pink and all those people. These people are 89 00:05:13,380 --> 00:05:18,810 spineless and they don't care and it's coming 2026 Any new 90 00:05:18,810 --> 00:05:23,580 car, you'll have to blow into a tube before it starts which is 91 00:05:23,580 --> 00:05:27,030 why I'm hanging on to my internal combustion engine G 92 00:05:27,030 --> 00:05:29,880 John C Dvorak: and I am sure that can't be disabled and 93 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:30,870 rejiggered 94 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,430 Adam Curry: it's so bad I had to take my car in because I had 95 00:05:35,430 --> 00:05:38,790 three times that it didn't start and it's like some weird bug 96 00:05:38,820 --> 00:05:43,500 they don't can't find so yeah bug yeah in the car somewhere 97 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:47,670 it's a glitch is that well, they can't reproduce it so they 98 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:50,220 needed my car for at least a week I said okay, but give me 99 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:54,990 give me a good replacement car you know? And and then and then 100 00:05:54,990 --> 00:05:58,800 they and they say well what electric vehicle Do you want? 101 00:05:58,890 --> 00:06:02,940 And like what I don't want an electric vehicle and well that's 102 00:06:02,940 --> 00:06:07,860 pretty much all we have. What is I live in Fredericksburg the 103 00:06:07,860 --> 00:06:11,970 you're in Austin? I'm I can't I can't even make any make the 104 00:06:11,970 --> 00:06:15,630 drive? So I got this Podunk piece of crap because the only 105 00:06:15,630 --> 00:06:21,030 one that has gas in it but this is this is bad going Oh Joe all 106 00:06:21,030 --> 00:06:24,780 our cars are electric why I say OB if you think about it this is 107 00:06:24,780 --> 00:06:27,930 what I was told. If you think about it, it they're much easier 108 00:06:27,930 --> 00:06:33,420 to maintain. Oh, is that the reason why this is we're headed 109 00:06:33,420 --> 00:06:40,590 for a bad a bad time with these EVs is a bad time hold onto your 110 00:06:40,590 --> 00:06:42,150 gasoline vehicles people 111 00:06:43,290 --> 00:06:45,150 John C Dvorak: are by us when now while you can 112 00:06:45,150 --> 00:06:48,810 Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm still oh and Toyota I love what Toyota 113 00:06:48,810 --> 00:06:51,780 did that there's not going to be sold in America but they have a 114 00:06:51,780 --> 00:06:57,270 truck for $10,000 There'll be a brand new truck you know with a 115 00:06:57,300 --> 00:07:03,810 with a bed you know? A payload bed 10 grand brand new because 116 00:07:03,810 --> 00:07:09,390 it has nothing no electric windows no radio it has you know 117 00:07:09,450 --> 00:07:12,540 a mirror you just with your hand outside the window which have to 118 00:07:12,540 --> 00:07:15,900 roll down completely stripped down I like that's beautiful. 119 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:23,280 I'd love to have that truck. Yeah, I think only 10 grand it's 120 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,910 pretty cheap. Yeah, I mean, any any kind of moderate 121 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,680 John C Dvorak: I wonder how many people alive today amongst our 122 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,490 audience in fact, that would see the hand window crank and wonder 123 00:07:35,490 --> 00:07:35,760 what it 124 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,210 Adam Curry: was the thing that doing something lewd. Hey, what 125 00:07:39,210 --> 00:07:39,390 is 126 00:07:39,390 --> 00:07:41,340 John C Dvorak: this? What is it? Whoa, 127 00:07:41,340 --> 00:07:42,990 Adam Curry: how does this thing work? Hey, 128 00:07:43,140 --> 00:07:44,580 John C Dvorak: what is this supposed to do? People 129 00:07:44,580 --> 00:07:47,040 Adam Curry: can't even tell time and an analog clock of course 130 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:47,850 I'll have no we 131 00:07:47,850 --> 00:07:49,830 John C Dvorak: talked about that quite a bit. We get a lot of 132 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:55,080 pushback. I am. Why can you know most people can't tell time from 133 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,460 an analog clock. Young people, 134 00:07:56,490 --> 00:07:59,700 Adam Curry: new people new people. Not most which 135 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:01,620 John C Dvorak: is the majority of people nowadays. 136 00:08:03,540 --> 00:08:08,250 Adam Curry: Ah well, since he's getting no press I feel really 137 00:08:08,250 --> 00:08:13,350 bad for him. This is he's out of the picture is exit stage left 138 00:08:13,350 --> 00:08:18,690 poor Volodymyr Zelensky can't get any more dough. He went on 139 00:08:18,690 --> 00:08:24,810 Meet the Press with Kristen Welcome Welcome welcome. And I 140 00:08:24,810 --> 00:08:29,160 just have a very short clip because most of it was he was 141 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,890 doing in Ukrainian and then they had a voiceover translating in 142 00:08:31,890 --> 00:08:35,850 real time but then all sudden he switched to English and you know 143 00:08:35,850 --> 00:08:39,000 had this whole thing like hey, you know, we got a $40 billion 144 00:08:39,540 --> 00:08:42,630 hole in our budget we need more money we need the money Hey, 145 00:08:42,630 --> 00:08:45,810 just so you know EU was sent us 19 billion you know they're not 146 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,510 You're not the only people we need more money please America, 147 00:08:48,510 --> 00:08:48,930 we need more 148 00:08:48,930 --> 00:08:52,860 John C Dvorak: money. We need more money. This voice and then 149 00:08:52,860 --> 00:08:53,640 he came up with 150 00:08:53,790 --> 00:08:56,370 Adam Curry: you know, just use the Russian money. 151 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,580 Unknown: This is very important and it's just evil. We'll have 152 00:08:59,610 --> 00:09:07,260 just interest from this $300 billion of Russian assets these 153 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:13,980 these not the we will have we will manage how to close the 154 00:09:13,980 --> 00:09:18,930 half of the gap of the budget. Why? Why do you take money from 155 00:09:19,110 --> 00:09:23,280 Americans take the essence of Russia are we okay with this 156 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:28,920 one? If there is a question through society of United States 157 00:09:29,100 --> 00:09:34,170 about military and ball of something else, okay, let's go 158 00:09:34,170 --> 00:09:40,680 produce it. It will be when when this old one. If you can give us 159 00:09:41,130 --> 00:09:45,150 a gun, give us some financial support. Okay, okay. Please give 160 00:09:45,150 --> 00:09:50,610 us a credit. Give us a credit man and we will give you back 161 00:09:50,610 --> 00:09:56,160 money to the war and the force. We can buy some ammunition. We 162 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:01,260 will buy it we will defend our jobs. We will have taxes and who 163 00:10:01,260 --> 00:10:05,100 will buy we will buy from American companies just allowed 164 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:07,170 us and let's see. Give 165 00:10:07,170 --> 00:10:09,990 Adam Curry: me some credit, man. Come on give us credit, but 166 00:10:09,990 --> 00:10:14,880 it'll be okay. We'll pay you back after the war. Oh my god, 167 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,450 he should open a GoFundMe do a telethon or something. I'm just 168 00:10:18,450 --> 00:10:22,200 getting pretty, pretty pathetic. He's just he's been dropped like 169 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,020 a hot potato. He's learning what it's like now to be on the world 170 00:10:25,020 --> 00:10:29,190 stage as a part of the douchebags. tau goes, bro, 171 00:10:29,250 --> 00:10:34,800 you're done. Then it seems like them. There's now everyone's 172 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,040 looking for solutions, stuff that Zelinsky we'll have to say. 173 00:10:40,710 --> 00:10:43,380 Did I lose you? And I thought I lost you there. And we just 174 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:43,980 thought. 175 00:10:45,330 --> 00:10:50,100 John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, but I missed that. Unfortunately. I'll 176 00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:54,360 catch you later. He's quite the character at this point. Yeah, 177 00:10:54,390 --> 00:10:55,890 TCP back home fighting. 178 00:10:56,550 --> 00:10:59,100 Adam Curry: He wasn't home he was actually home. Or they were 179 00:10:59,100 --> 00:11:04,110 doing a video Yazoo. Doing a zoom was very, with very little 180 00:11:04,110 --> 00:11:08,910 latency. I'm doing zoom very little latency, I find that you 181 00:11:08,910 --> 00:11:11,730 never know where that guy is. Have you noticed this flag down 182 00:11:11,730 --> 00:11:14,880 the street? There's some flag maker who has gotten really 183 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,570 smart. Have you noticed this that all flags. All countries 184 00:11:18,570 --> 00:11:22,470 are now using these cones. It's no longer really a flag. It's 185 00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:28,530 like it's like a a cone made of plastic or something. So that 186 00:11:28,950 --> 00:11:31,350 sort of that the color is wrapped nicely. You know, it's 187 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:36,240 not just a flag that's droopy on a pole. Everyone has them. You 188 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,110 have noticed these? 189 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:39,210 John C Dvorak: No, I have not. I know what you're talking about. 190 00:11:39,210 --> 00:11:42,510 But the cone Yeah. If you look at any like the cone of silence 191 00:11:42,510 --> 00:11:45,150 or what cone? Yeah, like 192 00:11:45,150 --> 00:11:48,210 Adam Curry: a traffic cone. Yeah, the flag the flags now 193 00:11:48,210 --> 00:11:51,570 before you can just go online, look at it, look at Biden, 194 00:11:51,570 --> 00:11:54,900 anybody, they all have these cones, all of a sudden, that's 195 00:11:54,900 --> 00:11:59,070 the new way of of displaying your flag. Cone flags, it's a 196 00:11:59,070 --> 00:11:59,640 new thing. 197 00:12:00,570 --> 00:12:05,070 John C Dvorak: Don't have a funny clip of the lawyer with a 198 00:12:05,190 --> 00:12:08,220 with a newt with a cool idea. You know, there is a straight 199 00:12:08,220 --> 00:12:10,020 flag now all of a sudden, 200 00:12:10,290 --> 00:12:14,070 Adam Curry: straightforward, as opposed to a LGBTQ flag. 201 00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:16,800 John C Dvorak: Yes, a straight flag. And it's basically black 202 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,370 and white stripes with the symbols for male and female 203 00:12:20,370 --> 00:12:25,230 interlinked in the middle. Oh, know how race is. And so there's 204 00:12:25,230 --> 00:12:29,520 this straight flag. And this this lawyer is I got this from 205 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,780 tick tock, I think has one of the best ideas ever big it's 206 00:12:33,780 --> 00:12:37,620 called the prep clip is the pride flag lawyer. Every 207 00:12:37,620 --> 00:12:38,040 classroom 208 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,890 Unknown: in America has a rainbow flag or a progress pride 209 00:12:40,890 --> 00:12:42,900 flag or whatever. They all look like barcodes to me at this 210 00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:46,710 point. Point being is what about this flow? And how many of you 211 00:12:46,710 --> 00:12:48,960 guys have ever seen one of these? reason I'm asking is 212 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,220 because viewpoint discrimination is very clear. You can't censor 213 00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:57,840 one person's view on a topic, if it's being spoken about at all. 214 00:12:58,110 --> 00:13:00,210 You got to talk about gay stuff, you can talk about straight 215 00:13:00,210 --> 00:13:03,330 stuff. So let's say you go to school, ask a teacher to hang up 216 00:13:03,330 --> 00:13:05,760 one of these in the classroom next to the pride flag, they're 217 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,900 gonna probably say no, but let's just say that they didn't know 218 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:12,630 any better. So you need to educate them. And you give them 219 00:13:12,630 --> 00:13:15,270 a packet full of case law that lays out very clearly their 220 00:13:15,270 --> 00:13:18,750 obligations under federal law and what is required of them as 221 00:13:18,750 --> 00:13:22,230 a government entity, you're in public schools. And then you go 222 00:13:22,230 --> 00:13:24,900 back the next day and ask them hang the flag up again. Well, at 223 00:13:24,900 --> 00:13:26,610 that point, if they say no, that's intentional 224 00:13:26,610 --> 00:13:28,770 discrimination because you put them on notice of their 225 00:13:28,770 --> 00:13:32,460 obligations. And that could give rise to punitive damages. I've 226 00:13:32,460 --> 00:13:34,980 seen cases go for anywhere between three and 1000 to 1.1 227 00:13:34,980 --> 00:13:38,970 million. And it just so happens I have a pocket full of this 228 00:13:38,970 --> 00:13:44,490 information case law. laying it out very, very clearly on my 229 00:13:44,490 --> 00:13:48,300 website. So you can go to our website Yoda lavalla.com, or 230 00:13:48,300 --> 00:13:52,590 Yoda es que.com both under the Resource tab and get your packet 231 00:13:52,590 --> 00:13:55,710 download it for free. Go to school, ask them to hang up one 232 00:13:55,710 --> 00:13:59,400 of these. See what they say that they say no, given the packet, 233 00:13:59,460 --> 00:14:03,270 they say no again, so I'm pretty simple. Let's see what happens. 234 00:14:03,570 --> 00:14:05,490 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, yeah, we need more lawsuits in the 235 00:14:05,490 --> 00:14:10,380 classroom. That's great. That's a great idea as you're just 236 00:14:10,410 --> 00:14:11,700 stoking up Feodor 237 00:14:11,730 --> 00:14:14,220 John C Dvorak: es cute I come down here so I went there to get 238 00:14:14,220 --> 00:14:19,500 the packet No, of course you did. And so the you know, so 239 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:22,200 there they have this form you fill out the form doesn't work. 240 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,710 It's one of these some bonehead I think it was done on purpose. 241 00:14:26,070 --> 00:14:28,620 So the phone the show when you try to put a phone number in no 242 00:14:28,620 --> 00:14:32,580 matter what number you put in there refuses to take it no and 243 00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:35,070 then it will get sent you the packet and it doesn't register 244 00:14:35,070 --> 00:14:39,690 so I think he's been sabotaged. But luckily info at Yoder e 245 00:14:39,690 --> 00:14:44,100 sq.com. Just send them a note and get the packet directly you 246 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:48,300 have your fixed our website has your packet on its way. I don't 247 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:50,610 know yet. I just did this yesterday. 248 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,980 Adam Curry: Oh I'm so proud of you. Yeah. 249 00:14:54,930 --> 00:14:57,090 John C Dvorak: Well there's what we need is more lawsuits. You're 250 00:14:57,090 --> 00:14:57,690 right. Yeah, 251 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,610 Adam Curry: more in the classroom while you're at it 252 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,570 gets Get some cameras in that classroom the John cedars a lot 253 00:15:03,570 --> 00:15:05,790 John C Dvorak: of this mostly taking place if they had been 254 00:15:05,820 --> 00:15:08,760 put cameras in the classroom. Yes. 255 00:15:09,929 --> 00:15:13,319 Adam Curry: So I, I feel the need because there's a lot of 256 00:15:13,319 --> 00:15:17,639 things going on but we're Big Pharma is added again and, and 257 00:15:17,639 --> 00:15:22,109 it's really it's so blatant now and there's so much money coming 258 00:15:22,109 --> 00:15:25,979 into the mainly the M five M networks but this is a global 259 00:15:25,979 --> 00:15:31,649 thing. This is global. And I just need to point some of it 260 00:15:31,649 --> 00:15:35,489 out the way the way that this works as you are being sold 261 00:15:35,669 --> 00:15:39,599 under the guise of here's a doctor telling you on your 262 00:15:39,629 --> 00:15:43,319 morning television show what's good for you, or what's not good 263 00:15:43,319 --> 00:15:48,749 for you. And it's all marketing, all of it. This is in regards to 264 00:15:49,049 --> 00:15:55,289 the fantastic news of a quote unquote, new new weight loss 265 00:15:55,289 --> 00:15:57,689 drug called Z bound. Well 266 00:15:57,690 --> 00:16:00,450 Unknown: in tonight's Healthwatch the choose a new 267 00:16:00,450 --> 00:16:04,050 drug in the battle against obesity. A new version of the 268 00:16:04,050 --> 00:16:08,790 diabetes drug Manjaro will now be marketed as zero bound it's 269 00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:11,520 for chronic weight management and trials people who 270 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:12,900 Stopstopstop 271 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:16,530 John C Dvorak: I can't quite make it out. I couldn't make it 272 00:16:16,530 --> 00:16:19,710 out when you set out and maybe the volumes to name is the name 273 00:16:19,710 --> 00:16:24,450 of the product death bound. Death bound Why would anyone 274 00:16:24,450 --> 00:16:25,710 take a drug named Death? 275 00:16:26,250 --> 00:16:29,070 Adam Curry: I agree that this you know so? Well, as we'll hear 276 00:16:29,070 --> 00:16:32,340 in a moment, this is just a relaunch of an existing product 277 00:16:32,340 --> 00:16:38,520 zip. Zulu echo Papa zip bound, probably the worst name ever. 278 00:16:38,970 --> 00:16:41,550 Unknown: That's for chronic weight management and trials. 279 00:16:41,550 --> 00:16:46,410 People who took the highest dose lost on average 48 pounds, the 280 00:16:46,410 --> 00:16:51,000 price of the weekly over $1,000 a month. drugmaker Eli Lilly 281 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,820 says the cost will likely be lower if patients have 282 00:16:53,850 --> 00:16:54,660 insurance. 283 00:16:54,690 --> 00:16:57,600 Adam Curry: Okay, so this is just the beginning of the 284 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,830 marketing push before we go into the true entertainment version. 285 00:17:01,830 --> 00:17:06,870 Let's go to CNBC. And let's have one of these analysts. Let's 286 00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:12,780 just explain what an analyst is. An analyst works for a company 287 00:17:12,780 --> 00:17:16,290 that typically makes market in a stock. In this case, it will be 288 00:17:16,290 --> 00:17:17,100 Eli Lilly, 289 00:17:17,429 --> 00:17:19,319 John C Dvorak: and didn't have to be a market did they 290 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,720 Adam Curry: typically take leave there with a company that makes 291 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:29,670 a market typically, or took a company public? There? It's not 292 00:17:29,670 --> 00:17:34,560 always the case. But I think in this case, it is the Guggenheim. 293 00:17:34,620 --> 00:17:39,480 Okay, the Guggenheim. And so this analyst or the BIA or his 294 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,470 company has a vested interest in the stock. How about that? Is 295 00:17:43,470 --> 00:17:43,890 that fair? 296 00:17:44,130 --> 00:17:46,740 John C Dvorak: Or well? Why would they be on the show is 297 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:52,140 Adam Curry: exactly. And but of course there's a Chinese wall 298 00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:54,720 between the trading desk and the analyst. The analyst just goes 299 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,210 talk to the company, gets all the information, brings it back, 300 00:17:57,330 --> 00:17:59,760 and then also propagates it on CNBC. 301 00:17:59,790 --> 00:18:02,100 Unknown: Joining us on the phone with his reaction is Seamus 302 00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:04,740 Fernandez pharma analyst at Guggenheim Partners, he has a 303 00:18:04,740 --> 00:18:09,090 buy rating on Eli Eli Lilly. By rating how coincidence and a 304 00:18:09,090 --> 00:18:13,830 $675. price target. Welcome, Seamus, let me ask the question. 305 00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:17,340 Is zip bound just a different version of or a wholly different 306 00:18:17,340 --> 00:18:21,480 drug than Manjaro? Which is Eli Lilly's entrance in this field 307 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,200 right now? No, 308 00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:26,190 basically. And thanks for having me. It's basically the same 309 00:18:26,670 --> 00:18:28,710 formulation of 310 00:18:29,940 --> 00:18:32,820 Adam Curry: Manjaro is the same thing with a crappier name. 311 00:18:33,390 --> 00:18:37,860 Unknown: What is unique here is it's just a different name that 312 00:18:37,860 --> 00:18:43,050 you have the product and that basically allows for the company 313 00:18:43,050 --> 00:18:48,420 to track the product much better when it's used for the treatment 314 00:18:48,420 --> 00:18:51,420 of obesity, and it also is very helpful in terms of payer 315 00:18:51,420 --> 00:18:52,440 negotiations. 316 00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:55,800 This likely to be the biggest selling drug of 317 00:18:58,170 --> 00:19:02,400 John C Dvorak: what he's saying is the name death bound is being 318 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,320 used for tracking purposes only. I know. I know that that is the 319 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,850 silliest thing I've ever heard. 320 00:19:08,850 --> 00:19:11,400 Adam Curry: No, no, no, because they have new marketing dollars. 321 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,060 It's like a code. It's like a like a, you know, so now 322 00:19:15,060 --> 00:19:17,310 John C Dvorak: they know Bungie No. 323 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:25,110 Adam Curry: Use your order. You use code genome. That's exactly 324 00:19:25,110 --> 00:19:27,690 right. It's a marketing tracking mechanism. 325 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,420 Unknown: It's very helpful in terms of payer negotiations. 326 00:19:30,990 --> 00:19:32,010 This Oh, I'm 327 00:19:32,010 --> 00:19:33,810 Adam Curry: sorry, I thought that was you, John crap that was 328 00:19:34,020 --> 00:19:34,560 likely 329 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,350 Unknown: to be the biggest selling drug of all time. 330 00:19:39,930 --> 00:19:43,500 Adam Curry: And the CNBC guys in on it? Is this going to be the 331 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:45,660 biggest selling drug of all time? Is this 332 00:19:45,660 --> 00:19:48,630 Unknown: likely to be the biggest selling drug of all 333 00:19:48,630 --> 00:19:49,050 time? 334 00:19:49,140 --> 00:19:54,630 We think it has a very, very strong shot of being the biggest 335 00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:55,110 drug 336 00:19:56,370 --> 00:20:01,500 John C Dvorak: a second. More so than ibuprofen thing, aspirin. 337 00:20:01,710 --> 00:20:03,510 Adam Curry: What they mean is they're going to get the most 338 00:20:03,510 --> 00:20:05,760 money in advertising of all time. That's what they're 339 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,030 talking about is going to be the best for our pocket selling drug 340 00:20:09,060 --> 00:20:10,110 Unknown: of all time. 341 00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:15,720 We think it has a very, very strong shot of being the biggest 342 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:21,930 drug of all time. Obviously competing very closely with Novo 343 00:20:21,930 --> 00:20:28,770 Nordisk ozempic. And we go the as well. But we think that this 344 00:20:28,770 --> 00:20:32,520 category for sure, will be the largest pharmaceutical market of 345 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,000 all time, 346 00:20:33,210 --> 00:20:36,090 Adam Curry: largest of all time. And you have to know that Novo 347 00:20:36,090 --> 00:20:41,640 Nordisk, which makes markets will go V and ozempic. Now is, 348 00:20:41,790 --> 00:20:45,840 its market cap is bigger than the country, it's from Denmark, 349 00:20:46,170 --> 00:20:51,240 they spent $600 million in the first nine months alone in the 350 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,510 US on advertising. So it was about time that we got a 351 00:20:54,510 --> 00:20:58,650 competitor to come in, and boy, they are flooding the market and 352 00:20:58,650 --> 00:21:01,140 how do you do it? What's What do you want to do if you have a 353 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:05,430 competing drug? I think you want to what does it discredit your 354 00:21:05,460 --> 00:21:07,530 your competitor? Isn't that kind of discrediting 355 00:21:07,530 --> 00:21:10,260 John C Dvorak: is good and also getting Dr. Janin? Well, 356 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,140 Adam Curry: yes, Dr. Payal, COE Hill, Dr. 357 00:21:13,140 --> 00:21:16,920 Unknown: Coley, the so called ozempic plateau, which seems 358 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,090 like a place you want to 359 00:21:18,090 --> 00:21:20,430 Adam Curry: post them peak plateau Hold on a second, 360 00:21:20,430 --> 00:21:22,740 there's something wrong with ozempic. Dr. Coley, 361 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,980 Unknown: talk to us about the so called ozempic plateau, which 362 00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:29,400 seems like a place in Utah you want to visit real and why do 363 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,720 people stop losing weight, 364 00:21:30,750 --> 00:21:33,660 you know, it's absolutely real. If you think about how our body 365 00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:36,810 is designed, it's actually designed to fight weight loss, 366 00:21:36,930 --> 00:21:39,090 right, because when we're losing weight, our body goes into a 367 00:21:39,090 --> 00:21:42,930 catabolic state state, it starts going to a stress response. So 368 00:21:42,930 --> 00:21:46,140 when we trick the body by giving it ozempic, and essentially sort 369 00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:49,620 of tricking our metabolism, to get us to lose weight, the 370 00:21:49,620 --> 00:21:53,220 metabolism kind of fights back. And after a while, you get into 371 00:21:53,220 --> 00:21:55,890 this sort of steady state pattern where you end up at your 372 00:21:55,890 --> 00:21:58,290 new setpoint. So I like to say it's sort of like turning your 373 00:21:58,290 --> 00:22:02,130 thermostat down. I like to keep mine at 72 because I run a 374 00:22:02,130 --> 00:22:06,750 little cold. But if you turn it down to 60, living at 68, that 375 00:22:06,750 --> 00:22:09,780 will be your new setpoint. So stop losing weight when you get 376 00:22:09,780 --> 00:22:13,170 to your assembly. And it's a good thing. Because imagine what 377 00:22:13,170 --> 00:22:16,230 would happen if people kept Yeah, right on this medication, 378 00:22:16,650 --> 00:22:19,620 actually breaking down tissues, get nutritional deficiencies and 379 00:22:19,620 --> 00:22:22,560 really start sort of doing more damage than benefit. 380 00:22:25,980 --> 00:22:28,440 Adam Curry: Ha, it'll do more damage and benefit. Well, what 381 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,460 is one way you can? 382 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,250 John C Dvorak: I can just going to predict the next job is going 383 00:22:32,250 --> 00:22:34,380 to be called ozempic. Rebound. 384 00:22:34,830 --> 00:22:38,430 Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, she, this is even funnier. No, it's 385 00:22:38,430 --> 00:22:41,370 funnier. It's funnier than that. What happens if you hit the 386 00:22:41,370 --> 00:22:45,270 plateau? Come on? This is a this is right out of the playbook 387 00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:48,510 John C Dvorak: from a drop dead Are you get really fat? No, no, 388 00:22:48,540 --> 00:22:53,310 no, no, you gotta get fat in this deals to make it work. Now 389 00:22:53,340 --> 00:22:56,580 Adam Curry: remember, the Sackler marketing strategy? What 390 00:22:56,580 --> 00:22:59,640 happens when you know it's not really not really helping the 391 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,560 pain anymore? What do we have to do? 392 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,540 John C Dvorak: Get them addicted. 393 00:23:03,870 --> 00:23:05,310 Unknown: So if you still need to lose more weight, is 394 00:23:05,310 --> 00:23:06,960 there anything you would do? Let's say I want to break 395 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,480 through this plateau? Do I increase my dose? What do I do 396 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:09,990 here? Yeah, 397 00:23:10,020 --> 00:23:12,540 there's a lot of tricks you can do. So you can increase the 398 00:23:12,540 --> 00:23:15,780 dose, there's a lot of tricks. So there's only up to a certain 399 00:23:15,780 --> 00:23:18,000 dose that has been studied, but a lot of people will call me and 400 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,980 say Dr. Coley, I've stopped losing weight, and they're in a 401 00:23:19,980 --> 00:23:22,650 lower dose. And I say, well, let's just go up to the next 402 00:23:22,650 --> 00:23:25,590 dose, knowing that we can push that. But if you're already at 403 00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:29,070 the highest dose, that's not really much oh, what you can do 404 00:23:29,820 --> 00:23:32,640 to the Tesla of weight loss medication. Oh, 405 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,730 Adam Curry: John, Oh, hold on a second. You can oh, let's just 406 00:23:35,730 --> 00:23:40,500 stop for a second. Now if you reach the ozempic Plateau, then 407 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:43,170 you can just up the dose but you know, a lot of my patients are 408 00:23:43,170 --> 00:23:49,170 already maxed out. So then I say, just go to the Tesla of 409 00:23:49,170 --> 00:23:50,550 weight loss medication, 410 00:23:50,580 --> 00:23:53,520 Unknown: not really much of an option. Now what you can do is 411 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,030 switch to the Tesla of weight loss medications, which is the 412 00:23:57,030 --> 00:24:02,550 newer ozempic Excuse me, Shara Manjaro. And then there's 413 00:24:02,550 --> 00:24:04,800 another new one coming so the ozempic is sort of the 414 00:24:06,060 --> 00:24:08,160 death bound the death 415 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,600 John C Dvorak: when did this is interesting in more than one I 416 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,790 mean, it's an obvious you're right, the whole thing is just a 417 00:24:14,790 --> 00:24:20,850 scam. But when did Tesla replaced the Cadillac of or the 418 00:24:20,850 --> 00:24:26,820 Mercedes of or the Rolls Royce of weight loss? Now that's a 419 00:24:26,820 --> 00:24:29,550 very good question. I don't think Tesla's in the same league 420 00:24:29,550 --> 00:24:35,250 as what at least insofar as its impact is Cadillac of Rolls 421 00:24:35,250 --> 00:24:38,310 Royce, which is the one you'd you'd want to use as the as the 422 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:40,650 top from della corral. Maybe 423 00:24:40,650 --> 00:24:42,090 Adam Curry: she's got a side hustle going 424 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,930 John C Dvorak: there's something going on with using Tesla it's 425 00:24:45,930 --> 00:24:48,330 Adam Curry: pathetic is what it is me Shara. 426 00:24:50,850 --> 00:24:52,800 Unknown: And then there's another new one coming. So the 427 00:24:53,070 --> 00:24:55,770 biggest sort of the first generation, it hits one 428 00:24:55,770 --> 00:24:56,490 receptor, 429 00:24:57,060 --> 00:25:01,350 John C Dvorak: stop again the another new one coming, which 430 00:25:01,350 --> 00:25:05,670 has already been admitted by the analyst to be the same drug only 431 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:10,110 coded for marketing purposes. Yes. So you could do a numbers 432 00:25:10,110 --> 00:25:15,210 count for the hottest. Next by the correct answer. That's not 433 00:25:15,210 --> 00:25:18,450 another new one. It's another it's just the same one with the 434 00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:22,290 old with the but the new name, but the chic and unaware of 435 00:25:22,290 --> 00:25:26,010 this, and how competent or she just an incompetent bonehead 436 00:25:26,010 --> 00:25:26,910 that we're listening to? 437 00:25:26,940 --> 00:25:31,320 Adam Curry: Are you questioning the integrity of Dr. Coley? I 438 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,020 mean, they're a being the products here the A being the 439 00:25:34,020 --> 00:25:37,170 product names. So now she's promoting Manjaro. And then 440 00:25:37,170 --> 00:25:42,330 she'll have the code Mancino. I mean, death bound, and then 441 00:25:42,330 --> 00:25:45,570 they'll see which which one she did better at which one perform 442 00:25:45,570 --> 00:25:50,340 it's her her key metrics would he call the KPIs or key 443 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:55,560 performance indicators, this is all so cynical over the backs of 444 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,610 people who 445 00:25:56,610 --> 00:25:59,490 Unknown: are taking this first generation, it hits one 446 00:25:59,490 --> 00:26:00,690 receptor. Now this 447 00:26:00,690 --> 00:26:02,400 Adam Curry: is interesting. So when she talks about the 448 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,940 receptors, I started looking into this stuff. The second 449 00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:08,520 Unknown: generation one Manjaro hits two different receptors. 450 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,440 And then there's actually a third generation one coming that 451 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,440 hits three receptors. And so if it was epic, made you lose about 452 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,250 15% On average of your body weight Manjaro would be 20 and 453 00:26:17,250 --> 00:26:19,920 the third generation would be 25. So a lot of Doc's are sort 454 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,860 of getting people almost there with the first generation and 455 00:26:22,860 --> 00:26:25,650 then switching them to the newer and improved version. 456 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,970 John C Dvorak: This is made up Yes, yes, this is a fantasy. 457 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,180 It's 458 00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:34,800 Adam Curry: fantastic. I love it if it weren't necessarily I 459 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,000 mean, we don't know. This is still off label use except for 460 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:44,100 maybe the I guess the not Manjaro but the death bound 461 00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:47,970 they've they've received use authorization and we know that 462 00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:49,020 for I believe so. Yeah, I 463 00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:50,430 John C Dvorak: believe so. You believe so? I 464 00:26:50,430 --> 00:26:53,010 Adam Curry: don't know for a fact but I think so. I mean, I 465 00:26:53,010 --> 00:26:55,860 can check it because we have computers in front of us while 466 00:26:55,860 --> 00:27:01,080 we guessing no. See me death bound. What was it called again? 467 00:27:01,860 --> 00:27:06,810 John C Dvorak: Zero Deaths FDA. Approved bound. Death 468 00:27:06,810 --> 00:27:12,240 Adam Curry: bound. Ely FDA approves. Yes, FDA approves 469 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,170 Lily's zero bound for chronic weight loss. So yes. 470 00:27:16,410 --> 00:27:19,920 John C Dvorak: Chronic what weight chronic? What's chronic 471 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,070 weight loss? What does that mean? 472 00:27:23,850 --> 00:27:26,040 Adam Curry: I don't know. I'm not a doctor Jim. 473 00:27:26,820 --> 00:27:30,570 John C Dvorak: Tamron it would be 70 but chronic weight loss he 474 00:27:30,570 --> 00:27:33,930 can't stop losing weight. That's what is that what is chronic 475 00:27:33,930 --> 00:27:36,180 weightless? That doesn't even make any sense. Let me double 476 00:27:36,180 --> 00:27:39,570 Adam Curry: check that link again. Hold on a second. I keep 477 00:27:39,570 --> 00:27:42,540 putting now now you've got me typing in death bounds. This is 478 00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:48,270 not good. Eta approval on our second we'll see number just 479 00:27:48,270 --> 00:27:52,050 look at this link. FDA approves new medication. Oh, I'm sorry 480 00:27:52,050 --> 00:27:55,080 for chronic weight management which it makes even less sense. 481 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:55,860 Wait again, 482 00:27:55,860 --> 00:27:58,500 John C Dvorak: that makes no sense. But what is wrong with 483 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,440 you? I don't know. I just I have to deal with weight management 484 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,770 and weight management oriented all you got a chronic condition. 485 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,670 It doesn't make that did the usage doesn't make any sense. 486 00:28:09,150 --> 00:28:12,750 But chronic and weight management is like a non 487 00:28:12,750 --> 00:28:15,840 sequitur. I can't help 488 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,200 Adam Curry: but this is your FDA at work. This is what this is 489 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,820 what let me see if if I can find something here. obesity and 490 00:28:23,820 --> 00:28:26,700 overweight are serious conditions that can be 491 00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:28,980 associated with some of the leading causes of death such as 492 00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:31,440 heart disease, stroke and diabetes. This is who has 493 00:28:31,470 --> 00:28:35,250 Division of Diabetes lipid disorders out there. Oh, okay. 494 00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:38,700 All right. Here we go. Heart disease, stroke and diabetes 495 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:42,390 says John Sherratt, MD Director of the Division of Diabetes 496 00:28:42,390 --> 00:28:46,020 lipid disorders and obesity in the FDA Center for Drug 497 00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:50,730 Evaluation and Research in light quote in light of increasing 498 00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:54,420 rates of both obesity and overweight that's interesting 499 00:28:54,420 --> 00:29:00,570 just using that term overweight as as a What does that 500 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:04,860 overweight in the United States today's approval addresses an 501 00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:10,560 unmet medical need. Wow, these guys are all on the take. unmet 502 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,930 need. How about ozempic? Oh, it's not good. We need 503 00:29:12,930 --> 00:29:17,010 deskbound. Alright, let's Oh, and then they do say zip bound 504 00:29:17,010 --> 00:29:20,700 causes thyroid C cell tumors in rats, but those are rats. You're 505 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:23,370 not a rat. You're a human being don't worry about it. Let's 506 00:29:23,370 --> 00:29:26,910 John C Dvorak: continue with Dr. Koh causes what in the thyroid C 507 00:29:26,910 --> 00:29:29,640 Adam Curry: cell tumors but only in rats. 508 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,740 John C Dvorak: That's what everyone needs is a thyroid 509 00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:33,150 condition. It is 510 00:29:33,150 --> 00:29:35,730 Adam Curry: unknown whether xiP bound causes such tumors 511 00:29:35,730 --> 00:29:41,460 including medullary thyroid cancer in humans. Well, that's 512 00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:44,160 interesting. Now let's go to the next piece here. This is I'm 513 00:29:44,190 --> 00:29:46,080 fascinated by Dr. Coley. Alright, so 514 00:29:46,260 --> 00:29:48,180 Unknown: I read that some psychiatrists are prescribing 515 00:29:48,210 --> 00:29:51,360 these weight loss drugs to counter side effects of certain 516 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,530 antidepressants. 517 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,950 Adam Curry: This is great news. You're taking antidepressants 518 00:29:55,980 --> 00:30:00,000 you start to gain weight. Yes, it's medication upon on top of 519 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,120 medication, like weight gain. What are your thoughts on this? 520 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,070 It seems like a lot of medication. 521 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,200 Unknown: I'm torn on this one, Jeff. And I think it's really 522 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,190 complicated. We do this all the time, we mix our drugs. To 523 00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:13,650 counteract the side effects of one drug with another drug, I 524 00:30:13,650 --> 00:30:15,810 give a person a statin, it raises their blood sugar a 525 00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:17,700 little bit, I give them a medicine to lower the blood 526 00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:20,880 sugar. Those are sort of well established mixes. But when 527 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,320 we're talking about psychiatry, right really tricky thing for a 528 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,990 couple of reasons. One, because we know that ozempic has been 529 00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:31,350 linked to some psychiatric problems, such as suicidal 530 00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:34,080 ideation, and you know, depression feelings, like you 531 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,240 want to hurt yourself. So if you're treating somebody with an 532 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,060 antidepressant, and they gain a little weight, and then you're 533 00:30:39,060 --> 00:30:41,310 giving them ozempic, which can actually make the depression 534 00:30:41,310 --> 00:30:44,550 problem worse, we don't yet know. That could be accounted 535 00:30:44,550 --> 00:30:44,730 for. 536 00:30:45,780 --> 00:30:49,260 John C Dvorak: Hold on. We don't yet know civically says we don't 537 00:30:49,260 --> 00:30:53,220 yet know. No, now there were she's making stuff up. And I 538 00:30:53,220 --> 00:30:57,810 have never heard of the ozempic causing suicidal thoughts. Oh, 539 00:30:57,810 --> 00:30:58,230 yes. 540 00:30:58,830 --> 00:31:01,890 Adam Curry: Show no, I've heard I've heard this. This show. I 541 00:31:01,890 --> 00:31:05,070 haven't heard it in their ads. And I have no it showed up in 542 00:31:05,070 --> 00:31:10,230 the marketing for death bound. Hello. So but this is this is 543 00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:13,560 part of the just so we can identify the how they're 544 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,440 marketing. This is part of the marketing. We go to Good Morning 545 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:22,860 America. Who do we have here? Well, this is part of the this 546 00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:25,410 may be counter programming this morning. 547 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,040 Unknown: A potential new use for the popular weight loss drugs 548 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,410 like ozempic Oh, 549 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,210 wow could 550 00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:35,130 Adam Curry: hit the jingle to remind people what they're 551 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,760 talking about 552 00:31:35,790 --> 00:31:38,100 Unknown: predicts weight gain in patients who are taking 553 00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:41,580 antidepressants and antipsychotics. Some mental 554 00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:44,940 health medications may cause weight gain. One review 555 00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:48,510 reporting that patients gained 5% of their weight on certain 556 00:31:48,510 --> 00:31:49,650 antidepressants. 557 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,240 One of the leading reasons why patients stopped taking 558 00:31:54,450 --> 00:31:58,740 medicines for depression, and other mood disorders is weight 559 00:31:58,740 --> 00:31:59,580 gain. Yet 560 00:31:59,610 --> 00:32:03,720 there's a debate among doctors psychiatric departments at six 561 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,450 major hospitals telling the New York Times they were 562 00:32:06,450 --> 00:32:10,110 recommending these weight loss drugs to patients, while seven 563 00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:14,070 other health systems said they weren't citing concerns about 564 00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:18,360 the risks and side effects Dr. Shivani Sethi prescribes them 565 00:32:18,390 --> 00:32:20,430 but carefully carefully. 566 00:32:21,570 --> 00:32:23,670 Adam Curry: I prescribe them but carefully they 567 00:32:23,670 --> 00:32:27,180 Unknown: are a tool to help our patients with certain conditions 568 00:32:27,180 --> 00:32:30,030 and I don't believe that they should be blanket prescribe to 569 00:32:30,030 --> 00:32:31,680 everybody. mom 570 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,150 of three Kristin Eckhart started taking ozempic in March what is 571 00:32:36,210 --> 00:32:38,190 you know you've got me 572 00:32:39,510 --> 00:32:42,690 Adam Curry: and and bucking on this now. What is blanket 573 00:32:42,690 --> 00:32:45,810 prescribe to patients what does that mean as a medical 574 00:32:45,810 --> 00:32:49,140 professional I don't just blanket prescribe. What do you 575 00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:49,620 think that mean? 576 00:32:49,650 --> 00:32:51,210 John C Dvorak: That means you just give it to everybody for 577 00:32:51,210 --> 00:32:53,880 everything. It's like you used to they used to blanket 578 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,830 prescribe penicillin. Wow, okay. All right. Oh, you got a cold 579 00:32:58,830 --> 00:33:03,210 Pearson penicillin or you got penicillin Okay, fully. They 580 00:33:03,210 --> 00:33:04,410 Unknown: are a tool to help 581 00:33:04,410 --> 00:33:07,980 our patients with certain conditions and I don't believe 582 00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:10,260 that they should be blanket prescribed to everybody. 583 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,610 mom of three Kristin Eckhart started taking them back in 584 00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:19,020 March, after she gained 20 pounds and developed prediabetes 585 00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:23,220 while taking an antidepressant. While her mood improved, she 586 00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:25,500 lows, the weight gain mentally 587 00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:29,160 I was feeling a lot more stable, much less irritable with my 588 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,530 kids. And then I was like, wow, I'm really stable. I don't feel 589 00:33:34,530 --> 00:33:38,340 like my outside reflects how I feel inside right now. Oh, I 590 00:33:38,340 --> 00:33:40,950 Adam Curry: don't feel stable on the outside really hard. She 591 00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:41,730 says she's now 592 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,730 John C Dvorak: where their fingernails are coming off or 593 00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:45,210 what's going 594 00:33:45,210 --> 00:33:47,940 Adam Curry: on here. He gained 20 pounds because of the 595 00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:49,350 antidepressant sloughing 596 00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:51,750 John C Dvorak: off her skin sloughing off. I don't know the 597 00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:53,100 weight gain mentally 598 00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:56,400 Unknown: I was feeling a lot more stable, much less irritable 599 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,030 with my kids. And then I was like, Wow, thanks. 600 00:34:00,090 --> 00:34:02,940 Adam Curry: Thanks Big Pharma. I'm much less irritable with my 601 00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:04,590 kids. Oh mighty. 602 00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:07,140 John C Dvorak: be irritable with your kids and your kid can 603 00:34:07,140 --> 00:34:10,680 experience some irritability. Yes, thank you. Okay, no kids, 604 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,830 whatever you're doing, Hey, Jimmy, oh, you can play with 605 00:34:13,830 --> 00:34:16,260 those matches. Don't worry about it. And I'm good. 606 00:34:16,650 --> 00:34:19,710 Unknown: My outside reflects how I feel inside right now. And 607 00:34:19,710 --> 00:34:21,120 that's really hard. She says 608 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:25,679 she's now at a plateau but down rounds and sees an indefinite 609 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,599 future on both meds. 610 00:34:27,630 --> 00:34:32,550 I don't want to discontinue this epic because I'm afraid of side 611 00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:36,600 effects there. And I definitely don't want to discontinue either 612 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,340 of the Mental Health medications on 613 00:34:38,339 --> 00:34:41,249 Adam Curry: to health, mental health medication. So she's 614 00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:45,119 really she's now on three. Oh my god, this poor woman 615 00:34:45,630 --> 00:34:48,240 Unknown: because that's a really bad idea. 616 00:34:48,329 --> 00:34:52,259 We need more research into the effect of these medicines as 617 00:34:52,259 --> 00:34:55,649 woman with mental health disorders. I'm very optimistic 618 00:34:55,649 --> 00:34:59,489 that they will open up a new chapter in our ability to manage 619 00:34:59,489 --> 00:35:02,489 the weight gain pain associated with the use of these medicines. 620 00:35:02,819 --> 00:35:03,299 Okay? 621 00:35:04,290 --> 00:35:06,420 John C Dvorak: So in other words, you're driving me nuts, 622 00:35:06,420 --> 00:35:11,640 Kids, your mom crying all the time. This is like, okay, so 623 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,880 she's She's like a mom who doesn't know how to control her 624 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,120 kids. And so it's just take pills. Unfortunately, 625 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,270 Adam Curry: yeah, we've we've jacked up everybody. And you 626 00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:25,950 know, instead of dealing with life and dealing with it in, you 627 00:35:25,950 --> 00:35:30,300 know, in with in many different ways, deal with just giving 628 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:33,390 people pills and the pills don't work well enough, then we have 629 00:35:33,390 --> 00:35:36,480 to have a screw up, and they have take more pills or pills, 630 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,970 and then you get fat. And then you're unhappy because you're, 631 00:35:39,090 --> 00:35:41,760 you're 20 Because you're fat, because you're fat. And you 632 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:48,450 know, and then you get more. So PBS. Had a doctor on Dr. Carla 633 00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:55,260 Lester. And this I believe, is is the true. This is the real 634 00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:58,680 marketing for all of these for all of these weight loss drugs. 635 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,490 Let's just be honest about it. It's not for diabetes. This is 636 00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:05,160 being marketed for people who feel that they're fat, or maybe 637 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,300 they are fat. But how does it actually work? What is actually 638 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:14,760 going on with these and and you're going to hear some terms 639 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,170 here, which are titled worthy for the show, which I believe to 640 00:36:19,170 --> 00:36:22,050 be 100%. Marketing 641 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,410 Unknown: drugs like Wigo V and ozempic are two medications that 642 00:36:25,410 --> 00:36:28,830 have become popular for their weight loss benefits, and their 643 00:36:28,830 --> 00:36:32,340 increased popularity has put a spotlight on terms like food 644 00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:36,090 chatter, and food noise is the idea of being preoccupied with 645 00:36:36,090 --> 00:36:39,330 food or eating. And while the medications can come with a 646 00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:43,260 hefty price tag, patients say the drastic change in their 647 00:36:43,260 --> 00:36:46,770 relationship to food is worth it. And as a popular hashtag on 648 00:36:46,770 --> 00:36:50,040 social media. 1000s have been sharing their own stories about 649 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,790 food noise and these GLP one medications like ozempic Do you 650 00:36:53,790 --> 00:36:57,330 know what food noises food chatter emotional chatter I'm 651 00:36:57,330 --> 00:37:01,200 Dr. Carla, Dr. Carla lessor is a pediatrician and an obesity 652 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,410 physician who has been looking at the relationship between food 653 00:37:04,410 --> 00:37:07,080 noise and these medications, food noise, 654 00:37:07,110 --> 00:37:11,670 Adam Curry: food chatter, these are people who I'm gonna spoiler 655 00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:17,100 alert. These are people who are severely addicted to sugar. And 656 00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:20,040 we now call that food noise. Dr. 657 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,380 Unknown: Lester, thank you so much for being here. Thank you. 658 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:23,310 Thank you. So wait 659 00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:26,430 John C Dvorak: a second. What are the how are they defining? 660 00:37:26,430 --> 00:37:29,100 She said she used it as though it was some sort of a term that 661 00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:32,250 was in play. What does it mean? She's 662 00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:34,740 Unknown: going to explain? I'd like to ask you if you could 663 00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:38,790 define what food noise is, according to physicians, and 664 00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:42,180 what causes it. Food noise or food chatter isn't a medical 665 00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:43,350 term per se, it's 666 00:37:43,350 --> 00:37:45,660 Adam Curry: a marketing charm. But these are patients 667 00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:49,110 Unknown: people who experience kind of constant noise in their 668 00:37:49,110 --> 00:37:52,650 brain. So they have a constant craving mind for food. So it's 669 00:37:52,650 --> 00:37:56,400 despite hunger and it doesn't necessarily relate to their 670 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,640 weight either. So their food cravings kind of rule the day 671 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,620 they may have just eating and they're looking forward or 672 00:38:01,620 --> 00:38:06,060 thinking about the next meal, or the next snack. And as patients 673 00:38:06,090 --> 00:38:10,320 are big started on medications like Ozanne the glycol Goby like 674 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,750 Manjaro for the first time in their lives, they're 675 00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:16,020 experiencing a quiet mind they're going throughout their 676 00:38:16,020 --> 00:38:19,410 day without this constant food noise food chatter 677 00:38:19,710 --> 00:38:22,290 Adam Curry: of the I was addicted to tobacco have been, 678 00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:29,070 which does have some addictive properties. So yeah, and by the 679 00:38:29,070 --> 00:38:31,680 way, I quit cold turkey, it's been almost a year not a problem 680 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,380 and quit. I don't smoke anything anymore. But so the common 681 00:38:37,380 --> 00:38:42,300 addiction noise is really if as a doctor, even while it's not 682 00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:45,030 really a medical term is food noise because you keep hearing 683 00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:49,980 in your brain. So what these drugs do, is they hit your 684 00:38:49,980 --> 00:38:55,440 receptors. Now, I believe that to be in your brain, but 685 00:38:55,530 --> 00:38:59,100 supposedly you have receptors everywhere in your body. And 686 00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:03,180 this woman is going to contort her way in it contort her words 687 00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:07,680 in so many ways to avoid just saying that people are addicted 688 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,550 to sugar, because that's what it is. But no, no, you have food 689 00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:12,390 noise. 690 00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:15,540 Unknown: For some people. The food noise is constant for some 691 00:39:15,540 --> 00:39:19,230 it's non existent. Is there some biological reason that some 692 00:39:19,230 --> 00:39:22,680 people experience different amounts of food noise? Well, I 693 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,540 Adam Curry: believe different amounts of food. 694 00:39:25,590 --> 00:39:28,560 John C Dvorak: It's just such a dumb question. Oh, it's great. 695 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,470 Well, this is this is journalism at its worst 696 00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:33,930 Adam Curry: he BS PBS, 697 00:39:34,590 --> 00:39:38,220 Unknown: the sophisticated PBS amounts of food noise. Well, I 698 00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:41,430 believe that there are a few reasons why we experienced that. 699 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:45,600 Number one is I believe our essence our bodies are adapted 700 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,810 to keep us basically exactly where we are the status quo. So 701 00:39:48,810 --> 00:39:51,300 somebody who has insulin resistance, a patient who's 702 00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:55,830 struggling with obesity will have more of those hunger cues 703 00:39:55,860 --> 00:39:59,190 less of the fullness cues, and so they may have more of the 704 00:39:59,190 --> 00:40:02,400 food noise and food chatter throughout the day. So 705 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,490 biologically, we need to give ourselves a massive break 706 00:40:05,490 --> 00:40:09,450 because it's it's physiologic. It's brain science, or bucks 707 00:40:09,450 --> 00:40:09,990 brain 708 00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:15,090 Adam Curry: science. Whoa, there you go. It's brain science. 709 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:18,510 Well, that sounds like you should use use any old drug. 710 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,710 Brain Science is great. Look at the antidepressants you've been 711 00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:25,470 taking. It didn't work, get another antidepressant didn't 712 00:40:25,470 --> 00:40:28,830 work? Well, we'll get you some brain science to stop the food 713 00:40:28,830 --> 00:40:30,270 noise in your head as 714 00:40:30,270 --> 00:40:33,180 Unknown: a break because it's it's physiologic, it's brain 715 00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:37,380 science. Our bodies were not meant to be exposed to sugar 716 00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:41,250 levels of insulin and for sure, not persistently high levels of 717 00:40:41,250 --> 00:40:42,690 insulin. So over time, when 718 00:40:42,690 --> 00:40:44,820 Adam Curry: she says high levels of insulin doesn't she mean 719 00:40:44,820 --> 00:40:47,640 sugar is that what she's saying here is that the translation or 720 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,980 my simplifying it too much. 721 00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:55,140 John C Dvorak: Insulin would be a result of high levels of 722 00:40:55,140 --> 00:40:58,290 insulin would be the result of sugar intake. So there's a 723 00:40:58,290 --> 00:41:00,660 connection because that's what she's saying, No, 724 00:41:00,780 --> 00:41:03,330 Unknown: we're not persistently high levels of insulin. So over 725 00:41:03,330 --> 00:41:07,530 time, the body adapts and becomes resistant to it which 726 00:41:07,530 --> 00:41:11,730 creates higher levels. So we know that we have this addictive 727 00:41:11,730 --> 00:41:15,510 trifecta of refined sugars or processed carbohydrates with 728 00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:20,730 trans fats and Saltram create addictive pathways and cravings 729 00:41:20,730 --> 00:41:24,570 in our mind and so humans are highly in tune with our senses. 730 00:41:24,570 --> 00:41:29,550 So just a visual cue smelling it with somebody cooking hearing it 731 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,460 that will induce craving pathways in the brain that will 732 00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:36,030 create more food noise and food chatter throughout the urban 733 00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:39,780 Adam Curry: so yes, she's she's literally explaining how we've 734 00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:43,920 all become sick. In the United States. not all but many people 735 00:41:44,130 --> 00:41:49,560 because you you are infusing so much sugar that you're addicted 736 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,860 to it and then all you need is just an image. Just an image of 737 00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:54,030 flash on TV. 738 00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:56,610 John C Dvorak: So when I'm looking at Cinnabon, the smell 739 00:41:56,610 --> 00:41:59,070 of a Cinnabon in the airport. Oh man 740 00:41:59,070 --> 00:42:01,950 Adam Curry: it smells so good and oh, I need it I crave it 741 00:42:01,950 --> 00:42:05,430 like the smell of a cigarette like the like the anything that 742 00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:08,550 you can get addicted to we've addicted people and now we're 743 00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:13,710 selling them the antidote, which could give you a cancer. Oh, so 744 00:42:13,710 --> 00:42:16,800 Unknown: then why do certain types of medications like GLP 745 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,700 one medications affect how food noise is perceived in the body? 746 00:42:21,210 --> 00:42:24,210 Adam Curry: Food noise perceived in the body mean your brain the 747 00:42:24,210 --> 00:42:28,050 addictive quality in the body fine. Well, the GLP 748 00:42:28,050 --> 00:42:32,250 Unknown: one medications have a lot of effects in the body 749 00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:36,090 because we have GLP one receptors in many parts of our 750 00:42:36,090 --> 00:42:40,620 body. So how it works is in different ways. So works in the 751 00:42:40,620 --> 00:42:44,190 gut, it delays gastric emptying, so patients feel a sense of 752 00:42:44,190 --> 00:42:46,290 fullness, gastric emptying, 753 00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:50,460 Adam Curry: does that mean it makes you constipated? It stops 754 00:42:50,460 --> 00:42:51,150 gastric. 755 00:42:51,630 --> 00:42:53,850 John C Dvorak: Well, what is that? Yes. Drink emptying. What 756 00:42:53,850 --> 00:42:56,490 is that? That means you can't put this stuff in your stomach 757 00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:59,340 gets pushed down to the intestines? No, it's 758 00:42:59,370 --> 00:43:01,230 Adam Curry: Hold on. That's not what she said. Hold on a second 759 00:43:01,230 --> 00:43:03,810 Unknown: when she said she said and so that helps in that way. 760 00:43:03,810 --> 00:43:05,910 It also helps in the gut to 761 00:43:07,110 --> 00:43:08,670 Adam Curry: me, I'm gonna go back here. There's 762 00:43:08,850 --> 00:43:13,020 Unknown: our body. So how it works is in different ways. So 763 00:43:13,020 --> 00:43:16,080 works in the gut, it delays gastric emptying, delays 764 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,410 Adam Curry: gastric emptying, so it doesn't it doesn't push it 765 00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:25,500 down. It delays it so you're full, you're full of crap. Am I 766 00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:26,460 to understand that? 767 00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:29,670 John C Dvorak: Dr. Dvorak? Well, it wouldn't be crap. The crap 768 00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:34,230 forms later, but you'd be freeing up digested food just 769 00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:39,360 lingering and going bad in the stomach. No 770 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,180 Adam Curry: wonder people are great. belches Yeah, people are 771 00:43:42,180 --> 00:43:45,660 puking from this stuff. No wonder okay? Because a promotes 772 00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:49,080 not pushing it down to the intestines. Okay, so patients 773 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:49,440 feel 774 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,730 Unknown: a sense of weight. 775 00:43:50,970 --> 00:43:53,400 John C Dvorak: I guess that would account for the frozen 776 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,500 stomachs. Exactly. 777 00:43:55,500 --> 00:43:57,690 Adam Curry: Frozen stomach, because it's been big ball of 778 00:43:57,690 --> 00:43:58,890 pre poop. And 779 00:43:58,890 --> 00:44:02,400 Unknown: so that helps in that way. It also helps in the gut to 780 00:44:03,090 --> 00:44:06,150 restore how it's supposed to work is how I explain it to my 781 00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:09,120 patients and teens. So it takes 782 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,720 Adam Curry: care of teens, fat teens, oh my god, this is these 783 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:13,710 people are horrible. 784 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,040 Unknown: What we're finding out is sometimes when you try a 785 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,180 medication and medicine, we find out oh, there's all these other 786 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:24,240 side effects that are beneficial. And so a powerful 787 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:28,590 one has been to decrease the food noise, the food chatter, 788 00:44:28,590 --> 00:44:31,680 the constant cravings, the patient's experience. And so 789 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,890 when we talk about food noise or these cravings, we're not 790 00:44:34,890 --> 00:44:37,320 necessarily talking about hunger. But what is the 791 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,260 difference between hunger and food noise? Yeah, that's a good 792 00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:44,250 question. So hunger would be the physiologic sensation that you 793 00:44:44,250 --> 00:44:49,350 need to eat and then the food noise and food Chatter is more 794 00:44:49,380 --> 00:44:52,890 like the craving mind. So that can be induced by so many 795 00:44:52,890 --> 00:44:55,170 different things. You know, we're not taught how to check in 796 00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:57,120 with ourselves throughout the day. We're having a lot of 797 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:02,400 stress or restricting ourselves Food and then we'll get more of 798 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,630 that chatter throughout the day. 799 00:45:03,930 --> 00:45:06,720 John C Dvorak: Ah, definitely check in with ourselves Hey, 800 00:45:07,740 --> 00:45:09,630 Adam Curry: hey baby self How you doing? 801 00:45:10,050 --> 00:45:11,790 John C Dvorak: I gotta check in so 802 00:45:11,940 --> 00:45:14,730 Adam Curry: so this is clearly this is why they're, they're 803 00:45:14,730 --> 00:45:17,700 saying things like oh it could also help against cocaine 804 00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:21,360 addiction and other things and it's so beneficial because it's 805 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,200 doing something to your brain it is disrupting the neural 806 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,080 pathways that you have associated with sugar addiction, 807 00:45:28,350 --> 00:45:31,620 which by itself sounds like pretty good, but let's first 808 00:45:31,620 --> 00:45:35,940 let's just admit what it is and say hey, we're messing with your 809 00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:39,960 brain, but I don't think anyone really knows what the true side 810 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,850 effects long term can be. And how does that affect anything I 811 00:45:44,850 --> 00:45:48,600 expect fully expect the fast food industry to start fighting 812 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,660 this by telling you that you're going to die from these drugs 813 00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:55,140 we're going to have studies that are going to show all if you 814 00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:58,950 take these things which severely impact our bottom line because 815 00:45:58,950 --> 00:46:01,380 people aren't eating sweets 816 00:46:01,740 --> 00:46:05,670 John C Dvorak: if before he I liked the thesis but I don't 817 00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:08,880 know that the fast food industry can think like that 818 00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:15,030 Adam Curry: hmm, I would think that well 819 00:46:15,870 --> 00:46:18,480 John C Dvorak: I think if you worked there and you were 820 00:46:18,510 --> 00:46:22,710 presenting this I even somebody presenting it like you just did 821 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,350 I wonder if they can think like that 822 00:46:25,710 --> 00:46:28,440 Adam Curry: there's got to be at least one look at Mars or any 823 00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:32,670 like the forgets fast food. Let's just think about sweets 824 00:46:32,670 --> 00:46:37,950 candy, Cadbury Mars, these guys their bottom lines getting hit 825 00:46:37,950 --> 00:46:41,790 because people aren't aren't snacking because the filter 826 00:46:41,790 --> 00:46:44,940 John C Dvorak: evidence of this evidence not yet, 827 00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:49,140 Adam Curry: right yet. And not yet. Not yet yet. But I have a 828 00:46:49,140 --> 00:46:53,700 feeling. If this rolls out the way it is that people will not 829 00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:56,430 be eating sweets as much. They may Good. 830 00:46:56,460 --> 00:46:58,920 John C Dvorak: Well, hold on. I'm gonna keep arguing with this 831 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,960 point of yours because I know what you're trying to say. But 832 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,440 I'm going to argue against it. It's quite likely that if you 833 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,980 can lose weight on all this with this stuff, and you get real 834 00:47:07,980 --> 00:47:10,800 thin, you say, Well, I can eat more sweets possibly may 835 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,480 actually boost the bottom line as 836 00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:16,860 Adam Curry: well. Why don't you Why don't you go long goes epic, 837 00:47:16,860 --> 00:47:18,960 John C Dvorak: and I can eat more sweets, I don't have to cut 838 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,220 down on my I don't have to worry about 839 00:47:20,220 --> 00:47:22,770 Adam Curry: what I eat. I'm gonna go short, you can go 840 00:47:22,770 --> 00:47:23,370 along. 841 00:47:23,970 --> 00:47:24,810 John C Dvorak: I will go along. 842 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,810 Adam Curry: Now the next question is, Will does it 843 00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:34,830 behoove insurance companies to pay for this? Because you really 844 00:47:34,830 --> 00:47:38,490 want the insurance? I mean, the Met the pharmaceutical industry 845 00:47:38,490 --> 00:47:43,920 wants people sick. But of course they are, you know, in bed with 846 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,800 the insurance companies? Where does where does this have to 847 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,630 give? I mean, do we want people getting healthy by allowing 848 00:47:51,630 --> 00:47:58,140 insurance to pay for it or not? It may be CNBC has an answer 849 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,680 Unknown: and and who's gonna pay for it? And how because the list 850 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,750 price is 1000 a month? You're gonna cover it, I assume, but 851 00:48:06,750 --> 00:48:09,690 most insurers are probably not going to want to correct Yeah, I 852 00:48:09,690 --> 00:48:11,970 John C Dvorak: mean, I think this is probably stop again. 853 00:48:12,930 --> 00:48:16,380 Keep in mind that why does he say that? Why does he want you 854 00:48:16,380 --> 00:48:18,870 to go back and play that again. But I'm gonna ask the more 855 00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:21,390 simple question or the earlier question, a question that should 856 00:48:21,390 --> 00:48:26,700 be asked that they won't ask on CNBC ever. What, what? What 857 00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:30,570 gives them the right data? Right, you can do whatever you 858 00:48:30,570 --> 00:48:34,350 want. But what gives them the impetus? Well, the impetus is 859 00:48:34,350 --> 00:48:38,520 another thing. This drug doesn't cost that much to manufacture, 860 00:48:38,550 --> 00:48:41,640 they're gouging the public, why doesn't somebody do something 861 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:47,640 about gouging? This is probably a $10 drug, not 1000? Well, 862 00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:54,450 Adam Curry: these semaglutide Phoebe, the semaglutide is is a 863 00:48:54,450 --> 00:48:59,070 generic, it's open source. It's free, it's free. You can 864 00:48:59,070 --> 00:49:03,690 basically buy it, and many different online, you can buy 865 00:49:03,690 --> 00:49:07,380 it, boom, you have to buy your own syringe and inject it, then 866 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,030 the marketing you can't put on there just like ozempic or, you 867 00:49:12,030 --> 00:49:17,010 know, I can't believe it's not well, govi you can't see me. 868 00:49:17,550 --> 00:49:23,610 It's okay. You can have your food noise later. Let's listen 869 00:49:23,610 --> 00:49:26,370 to this guy right off the bat. I presume they don't want to pay 870 00:49:26,370 --> 00:49:31,020 for it. Why not? If it's if it's saving, the idea is it's 871 00:49:31,020 --> 00:49:34,800 healthy. We know it's not but it's healthy. It is saving 872 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,670 people from dying from cardiac issues because they're severely 873 00:49:38,670 --> 00:49:41,520 obese or overweight, but I presume 874 00:49:41,820 --> 00:49:43,140 John C Dvorak: that they don't want to burn it 875 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,410 Unknown: and and who's going to pay for it and how because the 876 00:49:46,410 --> 00:49:51,030 list price is 1000 a month. Some insurers are going to cover it I 877 00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:53,760 assume but most insurers are probably not going to want to 878 00:49:53,820 --> 00:49:54,330 correct 879 00:49:54,330 --> 00:49:58,080 Yeah, I mean, I think this is probably the main challenge. Is 880 00:49:58,110 --> 00:50:03,360 is gaining reimbursement but for the obesity opportunity over 881 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,940 time, that being obese have the opportunity 882 00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:08,940 Adam Curry: this. What's your Wow, what's your obesity 883 00:50:08,940 --> 00:50:11,160 opportunity index? This is good. 884 00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:16,410 John C Dvorak: Opportunity, obesity. You have 885 00:50:16,410 --> 00:50:20,190 Unknown: some really important data coming this weekend. From 886 00:50:20,220 --> 00:50:23,580 Novo Nordisk called the Select study, oh, 887 00:50:23,580 --> 00:50:25,950 Adam Curry: we've got new studies coming standby and 888 00:50:25,950 --> 00:50:27,060 marketing on the way. 889 00:50:27,150 --> 00:50:30,870 Unknown: And that could really prove out that the benefits of 890 00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:35,100 this product for patients who have high cardiovascular risk, 891 00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:39,030 so this may become more of a cardiovascular drug at the end 892 00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:43,920 of the day, that's how we do it. So use broadly in the diabetes 893 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,700 setting as well. And there's a very compelling argument for 894 00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:53,670 both managing weight and blood sugar as driving material 895 00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:57,240 benefits in a patient population diagnosed with diabetes, and 896 00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:02,040 these products have been moving forward in the treatment regimen 897 00:51:02,250 --> 00:51:07,140 among physicians for the last decade, honestly, and now that 898 00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:11,340 they've got potent drugs like this. They're looking forward to 899 00:51:11,340 --> 00:51:14,820 using them earlier and earlier in the treatment paradigm. So it 900 00:51:14,820 --> 00:51:16,650 always makes sense a paradigm 901 00:51:18,450 --> 00:51:20,250 John C Dvorak: makes up, I love it. 902 00:51:20,910 --> 00:51:23,190 Unknown: They're looking forward to using them earlier and 903 00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:26,130 earlier in the treatment paradigm. So it always makes 904 00:51:26,130 --> 00:51:30,510 sense to pay for diabetes drugs, for sure. It always makes sense 905 00:51:30,510 --> 00:51:34,710 to treat patients with high cardiovascular risk. And then 906 00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:38,250 more broadly, that's just the weight loss drug, you know, for 907 00:51:38,250 --> 00:51:41,220 patients who were, you know, trying to lose a little bit of 908 00:51:41,220 --> 00:51:44,190 weight or don't want to go to the gym as much. I think that's 909 00:51:44,190 --> 00:51:45,420 a little bit of a different dialogue. 910 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,530 Adam Curry: You don't want to go to the gym, take a shot, it's 911 00:51:49,530 --> 00:51:53,520 fine. Don't worry about it. Okay, I get it. So they're going 912 00:51:53,550 --> 00:51:57,810 so because they are approved for weight loss. What was it? What 913 00:51:57,810 --> 00:51:59,070 was that? What was it again? 914 00:51:59,610 --> 00:52:02,460 John C Dvorak: The great mid paradigm? No, no, 915 00:52:02,490 --> 00:52:05,370 Adam Curry: the weight loss thing was on a second I'll get 916 00:52:05,370 --> 00:52:11,430 it with chronic weight management. So chronic weight 917 00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:17,160 management will be seen as good for your heart. That may be that 918 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,810 way we can get I just I don't understand the insurance 919 00:52:21,810 --> 00:52:25,680 business. Isn't the point that you don't want to you don't want 920 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:32,310 to pay out more money. So wouldn't you want to get people 921 00:52:32,340 --> 00:52:37,770 on the obesity opportunity drugs, anti obesity opportunity 922 00:52:37,770 --> 00:52:38,670 drugs, so they got 923 00:52:38,670 --> 00:52:41,100 John C Dvorak: it $1,000 A pop and they know it's not doesn't 924 00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:43,950 cost that much to even come close to manufacturing price. 925 00:52:43,980 --> 00:52:47,190 Okay, so that's they're, they're not they're not going to be good 926 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,910 insurance companies not to defend them. No, they just don't 927 00:52:50,910 --> 00:52:53,910 want to be taken for suckers. Okay, and that's what this 928 00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:55,980 sounds like. And so you're an insurance company send these 929 00:52:55,980 --> 00:52:59,790 1000 bucks. Why wait, it costs you 10 cents to make this stuff 930 00:52:59,790 --> 00:53:04,140 and he's gonna gouge us for 1000 bucks because you can Yeah, no, 931 00:53:04,170 --> 00:53:13,020 Adam Curry: yeah. No. Anyway, Eli Lilly stock jumped on the 932 00:53:13,050 --> 00:53:17,970 the approval of the drug. So but I just none of this sounds good. 933 00:53:19,980 --> 00:53:23,820 Doesn't sound healthy. You should just not eat. Just don't 934 00:53:23,820 --> 00:53:30,630 eat sugary snacks all day. Simple. They don't know what's 935 00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:36,000 going on only causes cancer in rats. Who cares? It's a rat. We 936 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,410 want them to even 937 00:53:37,410 --> 00:53:41,700 John C Dvorak: test it then. You're testing it on the RAT for 938 00:53:41,700 --> 00:53:44,730 Adam Curry: a reason. Yeah, because the rat has similar 939 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,770 doesn't the rat genetics 940 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,350 John C Dvorak: the rat gets you'll get Yeah, but when the 941 00:53:49,350 --> 00:53:53,040 rat gets some then you say hey, you know I don't know. Screw it. 942 00:53:53,310 --> 00:53:53,760 Yeah, 943 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,800 Adam Curry: yeah, stupid rat. Ah, anyway, so we're being 944 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:04,590 flooded with true mis and disinformation for marketing 945 00:54:04,590 --> 00:54:09,540 purposes from competing drugs. And this hitting network 946 00:54:09,570 --> 00:54:12,780 competing networks or PBS doesn't Eli Lilly, aren't they 947 00:54:12,780 --> 00:54:14,670 an underwriter of PBS, and 948 00:54:14,670 --> 00:54:17,820 John C Dvorak: I'll evolve the drug companies are Yeah, that's 949 00:54:17,820 --> 00:54:20,850 Adam Curry: true. But they all they all compete. And that's um, 950 00:54:20,850 --> 00:54:24,270 that's what you're being being shoved. Oh, it's just it's so 951 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,170 disheartening. And what do we say we should not allow 952 00:54:28,170 --> 00:54:31,350 advertising sponsorship underwriting whatever you want 953 00:54:31,350 --> 00:54:37,230 to call it on television or any media no and and how come 954 00:54:37,230 --> 00:54:38,190 they're not corrupts 955 00:54:38,190 --> 00:54:40,590 John C Dvorak: the system and the system is totally corrupted 956 00:54:40,590 --> 00:54:41,670 by it. That you 957 00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:43,410 Adam Curry: know what they should do only allow it on 958 00:54:43,410 --> 00:54:47,130 podcasts? Cuz I would I would switch in a heartbeat. 959 00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:51,330 John C Dvorak: Yeah, we'd be advertising sent value for value 960 00:54:51,450 --> 00:54:56,130 Adam Curry: Screw that. We would we would slam ozempic In a 961 00:54:56,130 --> 00:55:02,580 heartbeat for the competing food noise Solution brought to you 962 00:55:02,610 --> 00:55:07,410 which is death bound as this great man who that really bugs 963 00:55:07,410 --> 00:55:12,030 me. Who came up with that name? What mean? I'd like to be in 964 00:55:12,030 --> 00:55:16,410 that meeting. All right, you know ozempic has Oh ozempic is 965 00:55:16,410 --> 00:55:19,800 dynamite. You know, everybody. I mean, they're even doing ads of 966 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,180 the guy Pylab 967 00:55:21,210 --> 00:55:22,560 Unknown: depth, depth depth. 968 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,730 Adam Curry: No, we needed a new song we needed we needed a new 969 00:55:29,730 --> 00:55:32,760 version of a classic but then they come up with zip bound. 970 00:55:33,150 --> 00:55:41,010 Why? Why I don't understand. Zip bound. So stupid. 971 00:55:41,790 --> 00:55:44,190 John C Dvorak: Probably has a different meaning in Denmark. 972 00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:45,360 Oh, 973 00:55:45,390 --> 00:55:48,570 Adam Curry: no, Eli Lilly is zip bound. They're not in Denmark. 974 00:55:48,570 --> 00:55:52,650 That's Novo Nordisk. They're the ozempic they're smart. They are 975 00:55:52,650 --> 00:55:57,420 geniuses marketing genius right there. To get Hollywood to use 976 00:55:57,420 --> 00:56:02,220 it. So now the hashtag is food. Nice. Food. Nice food chatter. 977 00:56:02,970 --> 00:56:10,590 Means your brain is addicted. addicted. Now, though, we 978 00:56:10,590 --> 00:56:14,340 John C Dvorak: have iOS any thing on this? No, I'm done. I'm 979 00:56:14,340 --> 00:56:18,210 done. Don't take it boys watch debates, which were last night. 980 00:56:18,450 --> 00:56:22,830 Yeah. Yes. Worst ever hold on. 981 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,390 Adam Curry: I give avec high marks for being entertaining. 982 00:56:28,380 --> 00:56:30,750 high marks, high marks to Vivec. 983 00:56:31,590 --> 00:56:34,860 John C Dvorak: She, she said something on these debates, 984 00:56:34,860 --> 00:56:38,220 which just too much, but I have a bunch of clips. They're all 985 00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:42,660 short, with the exception of one of them. Which was the fight 986 00:56:42,690 --> 00:56:46,530 they got into a fight. I just took a chunk. I didn't really I 987 00:56:46,530 --> 00:56:48,990 mean, I don't have the whole thing broken down. I just have a 988 00:56:48,990 --> 00:56:51,810 piece where they got into it to the point where they're starting 989 00:56:51,810 --> 00:56:53,160 to yell at each other. And 990 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,010 Adam Curry: we set the stage first. This is the Republican 991 00:56:56,010 --> 00:57:03,810 debates on NBC on NBC makes total sense. With Kristen Welker 992 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,920 welcome, walk in Christopher Walken, moderating with the 993 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,070 other dude, what's his? what's that guy's name? Who took over 994 00:57:11,070 --> 00:57:11,820 the Lester 995 00:57:11,820 --> 00:57:15,720 John C Dvorak: Holt. Listen, this this podcast or radio guy 996 00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:20,550 who looks just like Stephen King, and every time they put 997 00:57:20,550 --> 00:57:24,030 him on the screen, I gotta jump back a little bit. And 998 00:57:24,060 --> 00:57:26,370 Adam Curry: so this didn't include Trump by far the 999 00:57:26,370 --> 00:57:31,590 foreigner who instead counter programmed in Florida, and had 1000 00:57:31,590 --> 00:57:37,050 his thing going on there. And so it's really it's really just 1001 00:57:37,050 --> 00:57:39,840 entertainment. I mean, none of these people have a shot at 1002 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:44,490 becoming the nominee. No, so it's just it's just purely for 1003 00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:48,450 for Megyn Kelly to be outraged over isn't that what this is 1004 00:57:48,450 --> 00:57:49,230 forced is just 1005 00:57:49,230 --> 00:57:51,930 John C Dvorak: I think so. And the thing though, is raunchy No, 1006 00:57:52,350 --> 00:57:57,480 the best part? Yes. The best part was Nikki Haley. Yes, under 1007 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,510 her breath, calling vervaecke Skunk 1008 00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:05,730 Adam Curry: Alright, let's get into these clips. Tell me what 1009 00:58:05,730 --> 00:58:06,270 did we go 1010 00:58:06,270 --> 00:58:08,940 John C Dvorak: says starts off at a stupid question asked by 1011 00:58:09,180 --> 00:58:15,120 Hal Holbrook. Whoever that guy was that third guy. It starts 1012 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:19,080 off with a dumb question about should we ban Tiktok and the 1013 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,430 whole thing got into it got into a heated screaming match. But it 1014 00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:26,100 starts off with Chris Christie. Gallagher, 1015 00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:28,800 Unknown: who is chairman of the House bipartisan Select 1016 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,920 Committee on the Chinese Communist Party published a long 1017 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,970 essay on Tik Tok following the flooding of pro Hamas propaganda 1018 00:58:35,970 --> 00:58:39,120 on the tick tock accounts across the United States Chairman 1019 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,120 Gallagher called it shocking he called the app predatory 1020 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,930 controlled by America's preeminent adversary one use to 1021 00:58:45,930 --> 00:58:49,650 push propaganda and divide America. It's spyware. He said a 1022 00:58:49,650 --> 00:58:52,680 means of surveillance. Governor Christie, do you agree with 1023 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,950 Chairman Gallagher and if so, would you ban or force the sale 1024 00:58:55,950 --> 00:58:57,120 of Tiktok? I 1025 00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:02,400 agree 100% With Gallagher Well, let me say this tick tock is not 1026 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:08,040 only spyware. It is polluting the minds of American young 1027 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,070 people all throughout this country. And they're doing it 1028 00:59:11,070 --> 00:59:14,490 intentionally. And when you saw what happened in the last few 1029 00:59:14,490 --> 00:59:20,340 weeks, with all of this anti semitic, horrible stuff that 1030 00:59:20,340 --> 00:59:23,940 their algorithms were pushing out. Algo gargantuan rate 1031 00:59:23,970 --> 00:59:28,530 gargantuan This is China trying to further divide the United 1032 00:59:28,530 --> 00:59:32,100 States of America. This is one of the big failings among many 1033 00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:36,810 of the Trump administration. He talked tough about tic toc. I 1034 00:59:36,810 --> 00:59:41,070 heard him do it many times. But when it came down to it, he did 1035 00:59:41,070 --> 00:59:44,460 not ban them when he could have and should have. And now since 1036 00:59:44,460 --> 00:59:49,740 then, we've had an additional nearly six years of this type of 1037 00:59:49,740 --> 00:59:53,040 poison be put out throughout the United States, even putting 1038 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,790 aside the spine, which we know is going on in the theft of 1039 00:59:56,790 --> 01:00:00,360 American personal data and information. Okay, 1040 01:00:00,750 --> 01:00:02,670 Adam Curry: I just have to make a few comments here. First of 1041 01:00:02,670 --> 01:00:07,890 all, I love the tough tic toc toc. That's very good. You know, 1042 01:00:07,890 --> 01:00:13,380 the this part of this is because of a debate where Hallie was on 1043 01:00:13,380 --> 01:00:16,020 the floor saying we've, you know, the Senate saying we've 1044 01:00:16,020 --> 01:00:19,080 got to ban tick tock, and then Rand Paul got up and said, Are 1045 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:23,160 you nuts? Do you want Republicans to lose everything? 1046 01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:27,360 So if this is the main platform young people are on? I don't 1047 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,630 know if that came up in the debate. But there's so much in 1048 01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:34,860 here. Tick tock is used by China to steal our data much more than 1049 01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:38,400 any other app on your phone. Oh, yeah. I'm sure. Oh, yeah, that's 1050 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,910 right. It's spyware. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah. But it's more 1051 01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:46,140 spyware than any of the SDKs that meta or anyone else uses. 1052 01:00:46,140 --> 01:00:49,260 Oh, yeah. It's much, much worse even know what spyware. They 1053 01:00:49,260 --> 01:00:52,320 don't they're full of crap that this guy is disqualified. He 1054 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:53,820 should get on the ozempic. 1055 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,240 John C Dvorak: Nine that but he lied about the fact that Trump 1056 01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,780 Trump did try to treat banned tick tock, and it was the courts 1057 01:01:00,780 --> 01:01:04,440 that told him no, and that was the end of it. Yes. Somebody did 1058 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,540 it later in the debate, somebody corrected him. 1059 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,740 Adam Curry: It's also a very bad precedent. Don't you think? It's 1060 01:01:10,740 --> 01:01:14,010 ridiculous, because who do they ban next? You know, who's next 1061 01:01:14,010 --> 01:01:15,390 on the block? Well, he 1062 01:01:15,390 --> 01:01:17,820 John C Dvorak: brings up another point, and then that point has 1063 01:01:17,820 --> 01:01:21,240 to be slipped into the question for the next guy. But let's go 1064 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,520 to Christie to So 1065 01:01:23,610 --> 01:01:26,970 Unknown: in my first week as President, we would ban tick 1066 01:01:26,970 --> 01:01:30,300 tock, they want to go ahead and sell it. Let them go ahead and 1067 01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:32,250 sell it. But I'll tell you another reason we would do it. 1068 01:01:32,550 --> 01:01:38,460 Facebook's not in China. x is not in China, what? They're not 1069 01:01:38,460 --> 01:01:41,700 permitting a free flow of information to the Chinese 1070 01:01:41,700 --> 01:01:44,190 people from our social media companies. 1071 01:01:47,370 --> 01:01:50,400 Adam Curry: Oh, Chris. Oh, Chris. 1072 01:01:50,670 --> 01:01:53,610 John C Dvorak: So the question has to be restated with the with 1073 01:01:53,610 --> 01:01:57,000 that with that in mind. So we end up with the three. 1074 01:01:59,070 --> 01:02:03,000 Adam Curry: Sorry, rewind this and Rhonda DeSantis. 1075 01:02:03,150 --> 01:02:05,460 Unknown: Would you man Okay, is that turning? I 1076 01:02:05,460 --> 01:02:09,330 John C Dvorak: talked and want to go to the podcast guy who 1077 01:02:09,330 --> 01:02:12,570 used to be a radio guy went knocking Hugh Hewitt or whatever 1078 01:02:12,570 --> 01:02:14,550 his name. Oh, whew, I got you. I 1079 01:02:14,550 --> 01:02:17,580 Unknown: want to go to the Santas. Would you ban or force 1080 01:02:17,580 --> 01:02:21,090 the sale of Tiktok regardless of whether or not China allowed 1081 01:02:21,090 --> 01:02:23,790 American apps to operate in China? Yes. 1082 01:02:23,790 --> 01:02:26,850 I think that China's the top threat we face they've been very 1083 01:02:26,850 --> 01:02:30,090 effective at infiltrating different parts of our society. 1084 01:02:30,270 --> 01:02:33,270 So my policy on China and the Chinese Communist Party is very 1085 01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:35,970 simple. We win. They lose. 1086 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,660 Adam Curry: Wow, that's some tough talk. I like it. 1087 01:02:40,050 --> 01:02:42,360 John C Dvorak: What does that even mean? Chop tear. I have a 1088 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,050 policy. Hey, Adam. I have a policy. Yeah, we win. We win. 1089 01:02:46,050 --> 01:02:47,490 You lose heads, I 1090 01:02:47,490 --> 01:02:48,570 Adam Curry: win tails you lose 1091 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,120 John C Dvorak: that policy, or is that some sort of wishful 1092 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,690 thinking? What is that? Really? It's entertainment policy. 1093 01:02:54,780 --> 01:02:56,130 Adam Curry: It's entertainment. 1094 01:02:56,220 --> 01:02:57,990 John C Dvorak: How is that a policy? It's 1095 01:02:57,990 --> 01:03:00,960 Adam Curry: something that Tim the pool man get very upset 1096 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,170 about because it's the wrong boots. You have lifts in your 1097 01:03:04,170 --> 01:03:05,610 boots and you're talking dumb. 1098 01:03:07,590 --> 01:03:10,620 John C Dvorak: So okay, so that was the stupidest thing in the 1099 01:03:10,650 --> 01:03:12,660 whole debate. I might add, did it? 1100 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,200 Adam Curry: Did anyone say bomb China? Bomb 1101 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,410 John C Dvorak: again. If she was if she was there, we would have 1102 01:03:19,410 --> 01:03:26,700 had that. So here we go into Santas. Born and then they 1103 01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:30,270 introduce Haley. Oh, Nikki. Nick comes into play here. 1104 01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:32,880 Adam Curry: She loves war. Doesn't she know she's a war 1105 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,900 monger? No, no, no, she loves war. Just like war. I like 1106 01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:40,020 watching war videos. I like watch anything John Wayne. And 1107 01:03:40,020 --> 01:03:41,190 war is good. We 1108 01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:44,610 Unknown: win. They lose. And in order to do that it's not just 1109 01:03:44,610 --> 01:03:48,750 military. It's economic. And it's cultural. And as the dad of 1110 01:03:48,750 --> 01:03:52,170 a six, five and a three year old, I'm concerned about the 1111 01:03:52,170 --> 01:03:55,860 data that they're getting from our young people. And what 1112 01:03:55,890 --> 01:03:58,260 Adam Curry: do you have your kids on? Tick tock, you know, 1113 01:03:58,260 --> 01:03:59,970 I'm not better. No, I'm 1114 01:03:59,970 --> 01:04:03,870 John C Dvorak: thing is five and a three and he's concerned that 1115 01:04:03,870 --> 01:04:06,720 the Chinese are stealing information from these kids. 1116 01:04:06,780 --> 01:04:07,350 They shouldn't 1117 01:04:07,350 --> 01:04:09,780 Adam Curry: be on Tik Tok. They're polluting their phone. 1118 01:04:11,070 --> 01:04:11,610 Thank you. 1119 01:04:12,150 --> 01:04:15,840 Unknown: I'm concerned about the data that they're getting from 1120 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:16,920 our young people. 1121 01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:20,610 Adam Curry: Oh, they got data. Like Oracle has nothing the data 1122 01:04:20,610 --> 01:04:24,270 brokers don't have anything. No, no, it's tick tock grabbing 1123 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:30,180 spyware. This is insulting to anyone who knows. Even the 1124 01:04:30,210 --> 01:04:36,510 tiniest bit. You know, just before we get to this, there was 1125 01:04:36,510 --> 01:04:46,620 an actual hack of the what do you call it? That Atlassian 1126 01:04:46,620 --> 01:04:56,010 software company trying to think what it's called now. And it's 1127 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,910 the contractors I know who work for the military are saying this 1128 01:04:59,910 --> 01:05:04,590 is is the worst. And China has everything. They have all 1129 01:05:05,130 --> 01:05:10,410 information from any contractor who does any kind of technology 1130 01:05:10,410 --> 01:05:14,940 work on anything in our US military, if they, you know, 1131 01:05:14,940 --> 01:05:17,460 they've they're kind of like, you know, you guys kind of plug 1132 01:05:17,460 --> 01:05:20,220 that hole don't make this public. Don't tell me about it. 1133 01:05:20,550 --> 01:05:25,140 And it's Atlassian Atlassian is it? And it is horrible and 1134 01:05:25,140 --> 01:05:29,730 there's no attention paid to it zero instead. Oh, no, China's 1135 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:34,770 giant. Tick tock is spying on your Confluence constantly. 1136 01:05:34,770 --> 01:05:39,090 You've heard of confluence. Caught the product Confluence. 1137 01:05:39,390 --> 01:05:42,300 John C Dvorak: No, I don't know the product Confluence. Everyone 1138 01:05:42,300 --> 01:05:44,400 Adam Curry: uses it is where you put all your notes, all the 1139 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,390 programming code, just like GitHub on steroids. It's been 1140 01:05:48,390 --> 01:05:52,830 hacked for a few weeks now. And they're not talking about it. 1141 01:05:52,890 --> 01:05:56,730 But it's, it's really, really bad. And no, no tick tock with 1142 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,070 with Rhonda as five year old 1143 01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:02,460 Unknown: old, I'm concerned about the data that they're 1144 01:06:02,460 --> 01:06:05,400 getting from our young people and what they're doing to 1145 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,760 pollute the minds of our young people, these kids get these 1146 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,160 devices and they have a mind of their own. And I know a lot of 1147 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,520 parents are looking, it's hard to even keep it out. China's 1148 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,370 obviously the most extreme, but this is happening with other 1149 01:06:17,370 --> 01:06:20,280 things. So we are going to do that. And we are going to make 1150 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,980 sure to protect the American people. It's a full spectrum 1151 01:06:22,980 --> 01:06:26,640 approach to be able to fend China off. Yes. Military 1152 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:31,230 deterrence, yes. Economic decoupling. Also their role in 1153 01:06:31,230 --> 01:06:34,590 our culture. If we don't, if we ignore that, we're not going to 1154 01:06:34,590 --> 01:06:35,550 be able to win the fight. 1155 01:06:35,790 --> 01:06:38,430 Together. Ambassador Haley said to the parents out there, 1156 01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:40,560 they're probably tick tock apps on half the phone. 1157 01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:44,910 No, I'm gonna speak to the fact that two people hit me and you 1158 01:06:44,910 --> 01:06:47,850 didn't let me respond. So let's first talk about the fact that 1159 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,720 they want to talk about the Chinese land from 10 years ago. 1160 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,750 Yes, I brought a fiberglass company 10 years ago to South 1161 01:06:54,750 --> 01:06:58,590 Carolina. But Ron, you are the chair of your economic 1162 01:06:58,590 --> 01:07:03,210 development agency that as of last week, said Florida is the 1163 01:07:03,210 --> 01:07:08,250 ideal place for Chinese businesses. Not only that, you 1164 01:07:08,250 --> 01:07:12,420 have a company that is manufacture of Chinese military 1165 01:07:12,420 --> 01:07:16,320 planes. You have it, they are expanding to training sites at 1166 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,680 two of your airports now, one which is 12 miles away from a 1167 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,950 naval base, then you have another company that's 1168 01:07:22,950 --> 01:07:25,650 expanding, and they were just invaded by the Department of 1169 01:07:25,650 --> 01:07:27,120 Homeland Security. Oh, 1170 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,250 Adam Curry: so now we have millionaires who've been a part 1171 01:07:29,250 --> 01:07:33,780 of the military industrial complex comparing who has worst 1172 01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:39,690 stuff in their state in their states. Nikki Haley, you know, 1173 01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:43,590 there's a lot of Republicans who really dig her. I don't know. I 1174 01:07:43,590 --> 01:07:44,190 can't I 1175 01:07:44,190 --> 01:07:45,060 John C Dvorak: don't get it either. 1176 01:07:45,090 --> 01:07:46,200 Adam Curry: I don't understand. I 1177 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,970 John C Dvorak: andriese. A horror. She seems like a 1178 01:07:47,970 --> 01:07:49,080 horrible person. 1179 01:07:49,110 --> 01:07:51,930 Adam Curry: I don't get it. I just don't get it. Why did 1180 01:07:51,930 --> 01:07:54,240 John C Dvorak: she get it? Well, it just gets worse. So let's 1181 01:07:55,830 --> 01:07:59,640 five. This is a good finish that one. Yeah, that's done. That's 1182 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:04,830 done. That was for. Okay. So I didn't know that. They were 1183 01:08:04,830 --> 01:08:08,340 building Chinese military planes in Florida. But that's what she 1184 01:08:08,340 --> 01:08:12,630 says. Yeah. But what happens? What did they find back to 1185 01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:17,040 China? Well, what's the deal? I find out so I never heard that. 1186 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,210 So but okay. So now we start getting into it because she 1187 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:26,130 opens the gate to bickering. So here we go with the fight that 1188 01:08:26,130 --> 01:08:26,520 started 1189 01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:31,620 Unknown: mine was 10 years ago. What's your story? Then? I 1190 01:08:31,620 --> 01:08:35,010 abolished that agency that she's talking about. Enterprise 1191 01:08:35,010 --> 01:08:38,640 Florida. We abolished it. And of course, we banned China for 1192 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:43,770 buying the website. Recruiting, banning them from purchasing. 1193 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:52,500 Adam Curry: Florida, use grab your website laughing. This is 1194 01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:53,730 an embarrassment. 1195 01:08:53,759 --> 01:08:57,569 Unknown: Mr. Ramaswamy. We've talked about this you campaign 1196 01:08:57,569 --> 01:09:01,349 on tick tock. How do you get to talk banned if you use it? 1197 01:09:01,710 --> 01:09:04,350 Well, I want to laugh at why Nikki Haley didn't answer your 1198 01:09:04,350 --> 01:09:06,630 question, which was about looking at families in the eye. 1199 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,480 In the last debate, she made fun of me for actually joining Tik 1200 01:09:09,480 --> 01:09:12,480 Tok while her own daughter was actually using the app for a 1201 01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:14,640 long time. So you might want to take care of your family first. 1202 01:09:17,730 --> 01:09:21,990 The next generation of Americans are using and that's actually 1203 01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:25,110 the point of her supporters. Propping her up that's fine. 1204 01:09:25,170 --> 01:09:27,450 Here's the truth. Here's the answer. 1205 01:09:31,050 --> 01:09:33,750 Adam Curry: Leave my daughter out of your voice. You spoke it 1206 01:09:33,750 --> 01:09:37,740 was mouth and then you should have slapped him. Like will will 1207 01:09:37,740 --> 01:09:39,030 did to his to Chris Rock. 1208 01:09:39,329 --> 01:09:41,219 John C Dvorak: Yeah, that would have been that what you hear 1209 01:09:41,339 --> 01:09:43,499 carefully at the end or she calls him Scott. 1210 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,420 Adam Curry: No, I know. I heard everyone heard it. I'm gonna 1211 01:09:45,420 --> 01:09:48,180 play it again. Right. You're just scum. Here's the truth. 1212 01:09:48,210 --> 01:09:52,980 Your easy answer. Just calm. This is a scam. That Well, in a 1213 01:09:52,980 --> 01:09:57,030 way he's scummy. In a way, they're all scum. This 1214 01:09:57,030 --> 01:09:58,740 John C Dvorak: is this is something I think there's some 1215 01:09:58,740 --> 01:10:03,570 subtle, more subtle thing there. both Indian and she's Indian 1216 01:10:03,570 --> 01:10:06,210 tonight think that there's a planning issue here. 1217 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:12,510 Adam Curry: Oh, that's what we need in our politics. Yeah. We 1218 01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,800 don't we didn't we didn't have Indian classicism yet. Oh, good. 1219 01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:22,230 I have 121 second clip of Haley, which I thought was on the level 1220 01:10:22,260 --> 01:10:27,720 of Judge Jeanine and it was about what she would say to 1221 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,320 Benjamin not Netanyahu about Hamas, Hamas. 1222 01:10:31,770 --> 01:10:33,990 John C Dvorak: I just play it because the last clip is gonna 1223 01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:35,190 wrap it. The first 1224 01:10:35,190 --> 01:10:37,440 Unknown: thing I said to him when it happened was I said, 1225 01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:40,110 finish them, finish them finish 1226 01:10:40,110 --> 01:10:43,410 Adam Curry: them. That's like, end them. It's like that is so 1227 01:10:43,410 --> 01:10:48,990 creepy. The way she says that? Yeah, she should creep. Finish 1228 01:10:48,990 --> 01:10:51,150 them. Finish them. All right. 1229 01:10:52,530 --> 01:10:54,780 John C Dvorak: Here we go. So this is the final clip of this 1230 01:10:54,900 --> 01:10:57,360 of the debate is all about this one topic. I didn't go any 1231 01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,990 further. I could clip thing all night. But this is the bickering 1232 01:11:00,990 --> 01:11:04,290 stuff and here we go with the fight continued. And this is the 1233 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,050 just, it just falls apart. 1234 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,530 Unknown: Here's the truth. Your easy answer is actually to say 1235 01:11:10,530 --> 01:11:13,440 that we're just going to ban one app, we got to go further. We 1236 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:18,330 have to ban any US company actually transferring US data to 1237 01:11:18,330 --> 01:11:22,470 the Chinese here's a story. Most people don't know Airbnb, hands 1238 01:11:22,470 --> 01:11:28,320 over us user data to the CCP that's a US owned company. So 1239 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,090 this is the problem when you have Republicans that 1240 01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,540 temporarily go the way the winds blow and now it's popular to 1241 01:11:33,540 --> 01:11:36,210 talk tough on China when she was UN Ambassador called them 1242 01:11:36,210 --> 01:11:38,160 literally her words not mine our great friend 1243 01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:40,530 Adam Curry: you know what he should have done? He says you're 1244 01:11:40,530 --> 01:11:44,250 just a dot head. He should have done that you towelhead Nikki 1245 01:11:44,250 --> 01:11:44,700 Haley 1246 01:11:44,730 --> 01:11:47,010 Unknown: and when you have Republicans that temporarily go 1247 01:11:47,010 --> 01:11:50,160 the way the winds blow and now it's popular to talk tough on 1248 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,950 China when she was UN Ambassador called them literally her words 1249 01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:56,130 not my our great friend. He can't be fairweather fans of the 1250 01:11:56,130 --> 01:12:00,810 right policy. Get to the root cause even US companies in 1251 01:12:00,810 --> 01:12:04,860 Silicon Valley are regularly doing it. The virtue signaling 1252 01:12:05,130 --> 01:12:07,650 the fact of the matter is Democrats are on tick tock today 1253 01:12:07,650 --> 01:12:10,290 the only person one of the few people who stop stop stop 1254 01:12:11,970 --> 01:12:14,400 John C Dvorak: it this guy rattles off stuff so fast. He's 1255 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:19,080 a fast talker, Ben Shapiro. Yes. Well, no one's doing data to 1256 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:24,450 China because you get paid money is not virtue signaling. No, 1257 01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:27,420 that's called but he makes it sound as though the whole thing 1258 01:12:27,420 --> 01:12:30,540 is that you're interrelate virtue signaling stop virtue 1259 01:12:30,540 --> 01:12:33,120 signaling by sending your data to China what that doesn't make 1260 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,230 any sense. But he's talked so fast he Blathers, this stuff out 1261 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,950 like a machine gun. And you know, it's it's I don't like 1262 01:12:40,950 --> 01:12:41,760 hey, 1263 01:12:41,820 --> 01:12:45,090 Adam Curry: are you getting worked up over this? Yeah, doing 1264 01:12:45,300 --> 01:12:45,930 the right to 1265 01:12:46,530 --> 01:12:50,640 Unknown: get to the root cause even US companies in Silicon 1266 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,870 Valley are regularly doing it. The virtue signaling. The fact 1267 01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:57,270 of the matter is Democrats are on tick tock today, the only 1268 01:12:57,270 --> 01:13:00,090 person one of the few people who is putting up content the way 1269 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,330 the actual algorithms work speaking for pro Israel views or 1270 01:13:03,330 --> 01:13:07,920 others and more Republicans will join it to stop us companies 1271 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,620 from turning over data to Chinese companies that 1272 01:13:12,030 --> 01:13:14,490 don't get to respond to personal attacks. But you do. 1273 01:13:14,580 --> 01:13:17,280 Thank you very much. You know, when he talks about me praising 1274 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,340 China, he doesn't know the fact that the reason China was 1275 01:13:20,340 --> 01:13:23,310 praised was because I negotiated with China and Russia the 1276 01:13:23,310 --> 01:13:27,330 largest set of sanctions against North Korea in a generation. We 1277 01:13:27,330 --> 01:13:30,210 are the that is literally the reason North Korea stopped 1278 01:13:30,210 --> 01:13:33,690 testing ballistic missiles. So I said China did good on their 1279 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,870 Adam Curry: way. I thought it was Trump who said I got a 1280 01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:39,540 button here and mind go boom, wasn't 1281 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,440 John C Dvorak: her she's the one who did it. Oh, Nikki, 1282 01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:45,000 Adam Curry: whoa, we should give her money 1283 01:13:45,030 --> 01:13:47,460 Unknown: because I negotiated with China and Russia the 1284 01:13:47,460 --> 01:13:51,450 largest set of sanctions against North Korea in a generation. We 1285 01:13:51,450 --> 01:13:54,330 are the that is literally the reason North Korea stopped 1286 01:13:54,330 --> 01:13:57,840 testing ballistic missiles. So I said China did good on their 1287 01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:58,950 part. That was 1288 01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:03,150 you said Nikki, those are your words not mine is to just own up 1289 01:14:03,150 --> 01:14:09,450 to you would never lie to the people about my 1290 01:14:12,060 --> 01:14:17,310 everyday I fought China and I did it by making sure no agency 1291 01:14:17,310 --> 01:14:22,050 heads in un. I did it by making sure that we call them out on 1292 01:14:22,050 --> 01:14:24,810 human rights. I did it by making sure that we held them 1293 01:14:24,810 --> 01:14:27,810 accountable on everything that they did. That's the reason we 1294 01:14:27,810 --> 01:14:30,060 got out of the Human Rights Council. That's the reason we 1295 01:14:30,060 --> 01:14:31,920 call them out. And I have theirs 1296 01:14:34,020 --> 01:14:40,260 Adam Curry: was made afterwards. 100% Entertainment is great. 1297 01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:44,250 This is fantastic. This is fun to watch. This is why we watch 1298 01:14:44,250 --> 01:14:49,410 debates. This the only reason that I have I have a clip my one 1299 01:14:49,410 --> 01:14:54,120 clip, I thought debates Yes. I look at the opening Vivec 1300 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:59,940 Ramaswamy. And the first thing he does is he takes the the the 1301 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,120 cheer woman of the Republican Party. Isn't Isn't she a Romney? 1302 01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:09,180 John C Dvorak: She's the rah rah. I think she's even related. 1303 01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:12,390 I think she is. Yeah. Yeah. Related to the Romney since 1304 01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:13,560 robic Romney eight 1305 01:15:13,590 --> 01:15:16,620 Adam Curry: Ronna Romney. Run isn't that women see her name 1306 01:15:16,620 --> 01:15:23,880 is? I'm gonna look at real good Ronna Romney McDaniel. And not 1307 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,480 just that he takes the host to task. I thought this was the 1308 01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:30,210 best of the entire entertainment show. 1309 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,660 Unknown: Please make your case. Why would you? Why should you be 1310 01:15:33,660 --> 01:15:35,520 the nominee and not the former president? 1311 01:15:35,850 --> 01:15:38,430 I think there's something deeper going on in the Republican Party 1312 01:15:38,430 --> 01:15:42,240 here and I am upset about what happened last night. We become a 1313 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,570 party of losers. At the end of the day was cancer, the 1314 01:15:45,570 --> 01:15:48,990 Republican establishment speak the truth. I mean, since Rhonda 1315 01:15:48,990 --> 01:15:53,010 McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017. We have lost 1316 01:15:53,190 --> 01:15:58,770 2018 2020 2022 No red wave that never came. We got trounced last 1317 01:15:58,770 --> 01:16:03,180 night in 2023. And I think that we have to have accountability 1318 01:16:03,210 --> 01:16:05,670 in our party. For that matter. Ron, if you want to come on 1319 01:16:05,670 --> 01:16:08,640 stage tonight you want to look the GOP voters in the eye and 1320 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,850 tell them you resign. I will turn over my yield my time to 1321 01:16:11,850 --> 01:16:14,460 you. And frankly, look, the people they're cheering for 1322 01:16:14,460 --> 01:16:17,430 losing and the Republican Party. Think about who's moderating 1323 01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:20,340 this debate. This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan and 1324 01:16:20,340 --> 01:16:24,180 Elon Musk 10 times the viewership asking questions that 1325 01:16:24,180 --> 01:16:27,480 GOP primary voters actually care about and bringing more people 1326 01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:30,150 into our party, getting the Democrats and we've got Kristen 1327 01:16:31,260 --> 01:16:34,650 getting a demo Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld, 1328 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:39,210 toasted democratic they wouldn't do it. I mean, Chris, I'm gonna 1329 01:16:39,210 --> 01:16:42,000 use this talk because it's actually about you in the media 1330 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,850 and the corrupt media establishment. Ask you the Trump 1331 01:16:44,850 --> 01:16:47,880 Russia collusion hoax that you pushed on this network for 1332 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,510 years. Was that real? Or was that Hillary Clinton made up 1333 01:16:51,510 --> 01:16:54,150 misinformation? Answer the question go, 1334 01:16:54,480 --> 01:17:00,060 Adam Curry: go. I love that by the way, answer the question go 1335 01:17:00,090 --> 01:17:03,180 I gotta use that was that Hillary Clinton should try that 1336 01:17:03,180 --> 01:17:03,840 with your wife. 1337 01:17:06,450 --> 01:17:07,890 John C Dvorak: Everybody out there listening to this show 1338 01:17:07,890 --> 01:17:09,720 should think about using that technique. 1339 01:17:11,310 --> 01:17:15,210 Unknown: Question. Didn't need this information. Answer the 1340 01:17:15,210 --> 01:17:17,250 question go. This 1341 01:17:22,890 --> 01:17:26,100 accountability because this media rig the 2016 election, 1342 01:17:26,340 --> 01:17:28,830 they rigged the 2020 election with the Hunter Biden laptop 1343 01:17:28,830 --> 01:17:31,950 story. This electric time is accountability. 1344 01:17:36,510 --> 01:17:38,820 Adam Curry: Fabulous, I thought that was great. I really loved 1345 01:17:38,820 --> 01:17:41,160 it. That has nothing to do with the presidential debate. 1346 01:17:41,250 --> 01:17:42,090 John C Dvorak: None to do. 1347 01:17:42,570 --> 01:17:45,690 Adam Curry: I love I gotta call Joe. Because you know, Joe, 1348 01:17:45,690 --> 01:17:50,190 he'll be like, This is so weird. He doesn't understand any of us 1349 01:17:50,190 --> 01:17:54,180 is so weird that people think that I should be leading the 1350 01:17:54,180 --> 01:17:58,920 debate with Elon and what was the what was the other one? With 1351 01:17:58,950 --> 01:18:04,620 Elon Musk? Greg and Tucker? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That'll be the 1352 01:18:04,650 --> 01:18:08,190 that'll Megyn Kelly get ready to talk about something that Dan 1353 01:18:08,190 --> 01:18:10,950 bond Gino, your review background was rollers 1354 01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:18,510 absolutely right. Gino use promo code bond Gino. Meanwhile, there 1355 01:18:18,510 --> 01:18:25,080 were some actual problems with the this this off year vote, 1356 01:18:25,590 --> 01:18:29,520 which for some states. There are some people know there's some 1357 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,820 positions and state legislative legislations that had to be 1358 01:18:33,150 --> 01:18:37,350 voted on Texas had a whole bunch of propositions. But I think I 1359 01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:40,470 said no to almost every single one of them. Hey, should the 1360 01:18:40,470 --> 01:18:42,630 state of Texas make money available to build 1361 01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:46,620 pharmaceutical facilities? No. Should we make money available 1362 01:18:46,620 --> 01:18:49,620 to build out broadband? No, let them do it commercially, you 1363 01:18:49,620 --> 01:18:55,110 know, stupid questions. But this voting machine glitches, actual 1364 01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:58,680 glitches while we've got to show let's not talk about what 1365 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,420 happened in Pennsylvania. 1366 01:19:00,660 --> 01:19:03,480 Unknown: Now headlines with words like voting machines 1367 01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:07,440 malfunction, voting machine glitch flipped votes, issue and 1368 01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:10,770 voting machines and counties face and ballot marking machine 1369 01:19:10,770 --> 01:19:14,910 issues headlines like these on the day of an election add to 1370 01:19:14,910 --> 01:19:17,730 the distrust in America's democracy. 1371 01:19:18,210 --> 01:19:21,000 Adam Curry: By the way, this is not some mainstream news. This 1372 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,580 is straight arrow news Northampton 1373 01:19:23,580 --> 01:19:25,980 Unknown: County, Pennsylvania with a population of over 1374 01:19:25,980 --> 01:19:30,120 300,000. Voters were asked to decide whether two judges should 1375 01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:34,230 be retained for additional 10 year terms. When voters received 1376 01:19:34,230 --> 01:19:37,830 their printed voting summary. The yes or no votes were 1377 01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:41,520 switched. Election officials learned it was an issue on all 1378 01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,960 300 Plus voting systems in the county. Election officials say 1379 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,920 it was a clerical and coding error. Even though printed 1380 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,400 voting records showed a switch in votes. The voting machines 1381 01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,570 back end system tabulated the votes accurately. Don't worry 1382 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,970 Adam Curry: the back end off it'd be the back end systems. 1383 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,000 got you covered. It's all fine. Meanwhile, in 1384 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,370 Unknown: Kentucky with a governor's race on the line 1385 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:09,300 voting machines in some counties were selecting the wrong options 1386 01:20:09,300 --> 01:20:12,660 on touchscreens when a voter went to select a straight party 1387 01:20:12,660 --> 01:20:16,230 votes. Election officials say sometimes it would highlight the 1388 01:20:16,230 --> 01:20:19,320 wrong party. Oh, yes. Yes, we've had 1389 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,810 issues. This is not the way elections supposed to be 1390 01:20:21,810 --> 01:20:26,250 conducted. That all sounds horrible. But that's not the 1391 01:20:26,250 --> 01:20:28,710 voting. That's a ballot marking device. No. 1392 01:20:28,710 --> 01:20:32,400 Okay. Apparently, the issue was a persistent one starting days 1393 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,460 before during early voting, that's according to the election 1394 01:20:35,460 --> 01:20:38,880 official. So these flyers were hung at polling locations, 1395 01:20:38,970 --> 01:20:42,270 alerting a voter to select their candidate by clicking their 1396 01:20:42,270 --> 01:20:45,810 name, rather than the tiny box. All right, 1397 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,730 Adam Curry: so that was throughout the country, then 1398 01:20:47,730 --> 01:20:52,560 Pennsylvania, people, people noticed that their votes were 1399 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:57,000 flipped. And this immediately became an issue. They they 1400 01:20:57,030 --> 01:21:02,460 hauled in the the Senior Vice President of customer operations 1401 01:21:02,490 --> 01:21:06,180 of election systems and software, as the company 1402 01:21:06,180 --> 01:21:10,710 responsible for the Pennsylvania votes. And she was asked, Hey, 1403 01:21:10,710 --> 01:21:13,650 how did this happen, that people's votes were flipped? 1404 01:21:13,860 --> 01:21:16,260 What what went wrong? What happened here? 1405 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,410 Unknown: That's been brought to my attention. But yes, I believe 1406 01:21:19,410 --> 01:21:27,390 so. Well, like I said, it was a human error, based on, you know, 1407 01:21:27,420 --> 01:21:31,740 someone from our team that program the election, and they 1408 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,110 Adam Curry: I love the term, by the way, someone on our team who 1409 01:21:34,110 --> 01:21:36,960 programmed the election, sorry to sound like that's how it 1410 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,190 works these days. Well, 1411 01:21:38,220 --> 01:21:42,330 Unknown: like I said, it was a human error, based on, you know, 1412 01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:46,740 someone from our team that program the election, and they 1413 01:21:47,460 --> 01:21:51,960 made a mistake, putting the printed text on the card, as 1414 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:56,400 compared to the boat screen. Because the retention is a lot 1415 01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:00,090 of text to it. It's got to be abbreviated on the printed card. 1416 01:22:01,020 --> 01:22:05,460 So someone on our team inadvertently put the wrong name 1417 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:06,570 advertently 1418 01:22:07,290 --> 01:22:09,570 Adam Curry: compensate, when will we learn? 1419 01:22:10,350 --> 01:22:12,270 John C Dvorak: Well, you know, the way to deal with this in the 1420 01:22:12,270 --> 01:22:16,230 end it is when you catch somebody like this, you call for 1421 01:22:16,230 --> 01:22:19,770 another election and make that company pay for it. Elections 1422 01:22:19,770 --> 01:22:25,200 cost millions of dollars to do Yeah. Election a complete redo, 1423 01:22:25,290 --> 01:22:29,790 and you make them pay for it? Yes. And they should sign a 1424 01:22:29,790 --> 01:22:32,910 document before they're given the contract. How about be 1425 01:22:32,910 --> 01:22:36,120 liable for all these issues? And how about fully liable? How 1426 01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,540 about we look, we weren't having a liability in this country? 1427 01:22:39,660 --> 01:22:41,880 vaccines? Who cares what happens to you? 1428 01:22:44,010 --> 01:22:47,070 Adam Curry: Okay, since you bring that up, let's go to Bobby 1429 01:22:47,070 --> 01:22:50,580 The up because Bobby, the OP is also in the news talking about 1430 01:22:50,580 --> 01:22:55,680 presidential hopefuls PBS hmm, there we are, again, everybody, 1431 01:22:55,680 --> 01:23:04,110 let's let's play elitist voices of America. This is NPR or PBS? 1432 01:23:04,140 --> 01:23:06,510 Unknown: Can I ask you another question about your candidacy 1433 01:23:06,510 --> 01:23:10,140 because a number of your own family members have spoken out 1434 01:23:10,140 --> 01:23:12,570 against it. Four of your siblings issued a statement 1435 01:23:12,570 --> 01:23:15,690 denouncing your candidacy, saying it's dangerous for the 1436 01:23:15,690 --> 01:23:17,820 country. They wrote in a statement Bobby might share the 1437 01:23:17,820 --> 01:23:20,220 same name is our father. He doesn't share the same values 1438 01:23:20,220 --> 01:23:24,180 vision or judgment. Your families are icons of the 1439 01:23:24,180 --> 01:23:27,270 Democratic Party. They do not typically speak out against 1440 01:23:27,270 --> 01:23:29,940 their own, but they are in this case, why? 1441 01:23:30,690 --> 01:23:35,670 Well, I have 105 family, living family members or your siblings 1442 01:23:35,700 --> 01:23:40,020 are supporting me. But let me ask you this. Does your family 1443 01:23:40,020 --> 01:23:42,000 always agree with everything that you do? 1444 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,400 They don't always agree with it. But I think they vote for me if 1445 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,140 I ran for president out of 1446 01:23:46,140 --> 01:23:48,990 the market to vote for me, but not all of them, your siblings. 1447 01:23:48,990 --> 01:23:55,740 So my family has a long history with President Biden, there's 1448 01:23:55,740 --> 01:23:57,840 five members of my family that are working for the 1449 01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:03,000 administration. And President Biden has a statue I busted my 1450 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,450 father behind him at the Oval Office. We've I've known 1451 01:24:06,450 --> 01:24:10,560 President Biden virtually my entire life. All the people in 1452 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,830 my family are many of the people including all the people that 1453 01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:16,410 you mentioned there, the four members of my family, you 1454 01:24:16,410 --> 01:24:20,040 mentioned there have strong, long friendships with President 1455 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:25,410 Biden. And I understand they're disappointed with the fact that 1456 01:24:25,410 --> 01:24:27,120 I would run against him but they're 1457 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,130 more than disappointed sir. They're saying that it's 1458 01:24:29,130 --> 01:24:31,350 dangerous for the country dangerous. 1459 01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,560 You would have to ask them, why don't you have them on this 1460 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,990 show? And you can ask them what they said that 1461 01:24:37,020 --> 01:24:39,180 Adam Curry: day. All right. So now to the vaccine question, 1462 01:24:39,180 --> 01:24:45,180 because of course, we have to roll out the the anti Vaxxer and 1463 01:24:45,180 --> 01:24:48,630 I have to say I thought Buffy the opposite of really good job 1464 01:24:48,630 --> 01:24:52,860 on this and maybe even scored a point or two. 1465 01:24:52,890 --> 01:24:55,170 Unknown: Let me ask you about a specific concern your family's 1466 01:24:55,170 --> 01:24:58,020 expressed in the past two which is your controversial views on 1467 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:03,870 on vaccines and being poor. To the anti vaccine vaccines? Well, 1468 01:25:03,900 --> 01:25:07,800 you've said previously that no vaccine is safe or effective, 1469 01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:12,540 which you did say that on in a podcast interview Oh, July, you 1470 01:25:12,540 --> 01:25:15,930 did say that there are quotes and that reporting is there. And 1471 01:25:15,930 --> 01:25:19,140 you're making something on Fox News, you said that you still 1472 01:25:19,140 --> 01:25:22,290 believe in this idea that vaccines can cause cause autism, 1473 01:25:22,290 --> 01:25:23,070 which has long been, 1474 01:25:23,940 --> 01:25:25,980 you're changing the subject what you said. 1475 01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,330 I'm asking about your views on vaccines. When that's right, 1476 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:35,310 I'm happy to those are the vaccines should be tested by all 1477 01:25:35,310 --> 01:25:37,860 other medications, our tests, they shouldn't have placebo 1478 01:25:37,860 --> 01:25:42,150 controlled trials prior to licensure is the only medical 1479 01:25:42,150 --> 01:25:46,110 product, the only medical product or medical device that 1480 01:25:46,110 --> 01:25:50,310 is allowed to get a license without engaging in a safety 1481 01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:50,730 test. 1482 01:25:50,730 --> 01:25:54,000 So you do not believe the statement that no vaccine is 1483 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,690 safe and effective. According to these reports, and live 1484 01:25:57,690 --> 01:25:59,580 recording, a podcast interview 1485 01:26:00,630 --> 01:26:04,200 the problem if you are reading reports about me in the 1486 01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,320 mainstream media, including this network, they're almost always 1487 01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:11,790 inaccurate on how to any facts. I've never been any back, spoke 1488 01:26:11,790 --> 01:26:12,180 before 1489 01:26:12,180 --> 01:26:16,110 one of the largest anti vaccine groups in the country a few days 1490 01:26:16,110 --> 01:26:18,990 ago. That's what they call themselves. That's not what they 1491 01:26:18,990 --> 01:26:21,810 call themselves, but that's what they advocate. You know what I 1492 01:26:21,810 --> 01:26:22,650 speak to a lot 1493 01:26:22,650 --> 01:26:26,580 of people, and I don't agree, and I don't pretend to agree 1494 01:26:26,580 --> 01:26:30,180 with everything that everybody in the audience says, Can I ask 1495 01:26:30,180 --> 01:26:35,610 you? I, you know, I've said, Listen, I fought against mercury 1496 01:26:35,610 --> 01:26:37,980 and fish for 40 years. 1497 01:26:38,250 --> 01:26:43,170 Nobody called me any fish. I like the idea that we have seat 1498 01:26:43,170 --> 01:26:44,040 belts in cars. 1499 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:49,410 Nobody calls me any automobile. I want vaccines that are safe, 1500 01:26:49,410 --> 01:26:53,220 just like every other medicine and are adequately tested. It 1501 01:26:53,220 --> 01:26:58,440 doesn't mean I'm anti vaccine. It just means sensible and I've 1502 01:26:58,440 --> 01:27:02,550 gotten censored. I think most Americans if they understood my 1503 01:27:02,550 --> 01:27:06,570 views, my real views rather than theirs distortions of my views 1504 01:27:06,570 --> 01:27:10,740 in the mischaracterizations. You hear from the mainstream media, 1505 01:27:10,740 --> 01:27:13,860 including this network that they would agree with me, 1506 01:27:13,890 --> 01:27:16,200 I'll just say there's evidence of these statements on the 1507 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:17,070 record. Show me 1508 01:27:22,020 --> 01:27:23,940 evidence well, you call it evidence of it 1509 01:27:23,940 --> 01:27:27,870 Adam Curry: a statement evidence of a statement. I like that. 1510 01:27:28,020 --> 01:27:34,470 People don't call me auntie fish. Like that. That was a good 1511 01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:37,440 one. So then, going 1512 01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:39,660 John C Dvorak: back to the election machines, I do want to 1513 01:27:39,690 --> 01:27:42,900 read this from one of our producers who said the that'd be 1514 01:27:42,900 --> 01:27:45,600 interesting to mention. He says the Kentucky election results 1515 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:49,500 occurring is boots on the ground guy bring in New York Times 750 1516 01:27:49,500 --> 01:27:55,290 to 750 2000. Republicans voted for the Attorney General 784 1517 01:27:55,500 --> 01:28:00,510 voted for the Secretary of State both Republicans but only 627 1518 01:28:00,510 --> 01:28:04,290 voted for the Republican governor. What what gives? That 1519 01:28:04,290 --> 01:28:08,160 means between 120,000 and 130,000, Republicans voted for a 1520 01:28:08,340 --> 01:28:11,460 Democrat Governor instead, but doesn't make any sense. Oh, 1521 01:28:11,460 --> 01:28:11,670 that's 1522 01:28:11,670 --> 01:28:16,680 Adam Curry: the did the Democrat winning Kentucky? Yeah. Well, 1523 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:17,280 there you go. 1524 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:18,540 John C Dvorak: He's reelected. 1525 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,150 Adam Curry: A lot of people get confused about what this means 1526 01:28:21,150 --> 01:28:24,030 you Oh, it's a blue wave. Okay. 1527 01:28:24,420 --> 01:28:25,470 John C Dvorak: It's a wave and that's the 1528 01:28:26,610 --> 01:28:30,750 Adam Curry: wave of nothing. Meanwhile, we had to slam Trump. 1529 01:28:31,290 --> 01:28:36,660 And I wasn't even prepared with my own. My own setup. I'm 1530 01:28:36,660 --> 01:28:40,410 surprised. Yes. Who do you bring out to the view if you want to 1531 01:28:40,410 --> 01:28:43,560 slam Trump? Oh, there she is. Ladies and gentlemen. She's 1532 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:51,090 flapping her wings. She's flying around. Oh, yes. Yes, Hillary 1533 01:28:51,090 --> 01:28:56,100 Clinton on the view. Lovely. Lovely. Now this country has 1534 01:28:56,100 --> 01:28:59,670 Unknown: a lot of problems. And the main one is named Donald 1535 01:28:59,670 --> 01:29:04,440 Trump. Okay, I can't personally believe that this loser has so 1536 01:29:04,440 --> 01:29:07,410 many people who still think that he could make a decent 1537 01:29:07,410 --> 01:29:11,190 president. He's been criminally charged with 91 counts. I mean, 1538 01:29:11,190 --> 01:29:14,010 he's practically got one foot in jail. No going on a banana peel 1539 01:29:14,010 --> 01:29:17,490 the sky. And they still say oh, we still like him. What do you 1540 01:29:17,490 --> 01:29:18,360 make of that? 1541 01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,660 Oh, I don't know joy. Didn't you just write a play about this? 1542 01:29:23,490 --> 01:29:26,130 Adam Curry: Did you just write a play? This joy Beyhadh written a 1543 01:29:26,130 --> 01:29:27,870 play news to me. 1544 01:29:28,860 --> 01:29:32,190 Unknown: By the way, you know, Miss Mrs. Clinton did win the 1545 01:29:32,190 --> 01:29:36,360 popular vote. Yeah. Yeah. Continue to believe that you 1546 01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:36,990 want Oh, 1547 01:29:38,550 --> 01:29:42,060 look, I think you're absolutely right to sound the alarm. And 1548 01:29:42,090 --> 01:29:47,670 and what I think, again, we saw yesterday is that a lot of 1549 01:29:47,670 --> 01:29:51,930 people may not be telling pollsters they're reconsidering, 1550 01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:56,610 but they are reconsidering? I do. I think that the chaos that 1551 01:29:56,610 --> 01:30:03,300 comes with is just It's not attractive to a majority of 1552 01:30:03,300 --> 01:30:06,930 people anymore. But look, there are people who still, you know, 1553 01:30:06,930 --> 01:30:09,840 are supportive. They say they're gonna vote for him. We just have 1554 01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:13,530 to limit the number of those people and reach out to those 1555 01:30:13,530 --> 01:30:15,990 who are having second thoughts who say, Well, you know, I 1556 01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:18,570 thought he would have done better or how much longer is he 1557 01:30:18,570 --> 01:30:21,330 going to do this rigged election thing or look at all the 1558 01:30:21,330 --> 01:30:24,300 problems he's got in the court system. So I think we have to 1559 01:30:24,300 --> 01:30:29,070 keep reaching out to the people who are open to looking at the 1560 01:30:29,070 --> 01:30:32,250 damage that he would cause if you were ever anywhere near the 1561 01:30:32,250 --> 01:30:32,640 White House. 1562 01:30:33,780 --> 01:30:35,820 We should knock him up now. Well. 1563 01:30:39,090 --> 01:30:41,550 Adam Curry: Bonkers in the boroughs at the New York Comedy 1564 01:30:41,550 --> 01:30:46,410 Festival, five short plays by Joy Bay are about New Yorkers in 1565 01:30:46,410 --> 01:30:48,960 all five boroughs. So yes, I guess you did write a play about 1566 01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:49,050 it. 1567 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,810 John C Dvorak: I'll bet you that's a good one. Tesco did 1568 01:30:51,810 --> 01:30:52,260 that. Now 1569 01:30:52,260 --> 01:30:54,480 Adam Curry: we bring in the lawyer Sonny Halston, some of 1570 01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:55,920 the polls reflect 1571 01:30:56,970 --> 01:31:01,590 Unknown: that voters that if he is convicted voters will change 1572 01:31:01,590 --> 01:31:04,860 their their opinion about him and will vote for him so I even 1573 01:31:04,860 --> 01:31:07,590 the ones who are supporting him not exactly so I trust I trust 1574 01:31:07,590 --> 01:31:08,400 that our country is 1575 01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,820 curious what do you think that's true? Just because he's 1576 01:31:11,820 --> 01:31:14,190 convicted they don't believe anything now what why would they 1577 01:31:14,190 --> 01:31:15,570 believe there are some that will 1578 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:19,350 change? That is exactly what these polls have have shown 1579 01:31:19,380 --> 01:31:19,740 Redmond. 1580 01:31:19,740 --> 01:31:23,460 Adam Curry: So first. So first, people are lying to pollsters, 1581 01:31:23,460 --> 01:31:26,130 they really they're lying to them. But this is what the polls 1582 01:31:26,130 --> 01:31:26,670 show. 1583 01:31:26,820 --> 01:31:30,450 Unknown: You know, I think when you are in any, any kind of 1584 01:31:30,450 --> 01:31:33,870 relationship, when you're 100% committed, it's really hard to 1585 01:31:33,870 --> 01:31:37,380 say you're wrong. Yes. You know, people go Yeah, why 1586 01:31:37,380 --> 01:31:40,410 Adam Curry: are you still Oh, projection? Anybody? 1587 01:31:40,500 --> 01:31:43,440 Unknown: This guy? And you're like, Well, you know, I thought 1588 01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:46,800 he would do this or I liked what he did there. And it's hard for 1589 01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,620 people to separate and I did say and I believe this and there are 1590 01:31:49,620 --> 01:31:52,830 a lot of other people not just me saying this. Liz Cheney said 1591 01:31:52,830 --> 01:31:56,160 it recently. Oh, that there's a kind of cult like dementia is 1592 01:31:57,930 --> 01:32:03,030 like a walking ID you know, in psychology ego and the super ego 1593 01:32:03,030 --> 01:32:03,870 and this 1594 01:32:03,870 --> 01:32:06,240 Adam Curry: one way over everyone's head what is an ID? 1595 01:32:06,270 --> 01:32:08,880 Can you explain it because the I'm sure that there's 1596 01:32:09,900 --> 01:32:13,110 John C Dvorak: getting goes back to Freud, where they divides us, 1597 01:32:13,500 --> 01:32:18,390 the brain into subconscious brain into the ego and the ID 1598 01:32:18,390 --> 01:32:22,380 and the super ego. It's all it's into these chunks is kind of 1599 01:32:22,380 --> 01:32:28,620 like college girls, you know, kind of remembrance. And so it 1600 01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:33,690 worked into the the it is like the animal. And okay, 1601 01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,630 Adam Curry: this one, this one over the crowds had the view 1602 01:32:37,020 --> 01:32:37,200 that 1603 01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,300 John C Dvorak: it did because it's like old fashioned and 1604 01:32:39,300 --> 01:32:43,470 it's, it's, you know, esoteric, to say the least nowadays, 1605 01:32:43,710 --> 01:32:48,120 Unknown: walking in, you know, in psychology, ego and the super 1606 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,780 ego and the ID. And so a lot of people go, Oh, man, did you hear 1607 01:32:51,780 --> 01:32:55,650 what he said? It's like watching a constant entertainment show. 1608 01:32:55,710 --> 01:32:59,160 And people get into that, and they don't want to give it up 1609 01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,130 because it is, you know, kind of entertaining and interesting 1610 01:33:02,130 --> 01:33:02,400 wants 1611 01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:07,560 Adam Curry: to chaos. Yes, not chaos is a comedy show. But now 1612 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,160 we have to do something that always belongs in a conversation 1613 01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,590 about Donald Trump. We have to bring a peddler 1614 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:17,550 Unknown: I think that your last job in 2016 will go down in 1615 01:33:17,550 --> 01:33:20,130 history is one of the most pivotal times in our country, 1616 01:33:20,310 --> 01:33:24,540 one of the most pivotal moments in our country. And it's still 1617 01:33:24,540 --> 01:33:30,030 reeling from, you know, Trump's policies, I think, and the deep 1618 01:33:30,030 --> 01:33:34,200 divisions that he sowed in this country, what in your view would 1619 01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,470 happen if he were to be reelected? Oh, I can't even I 1620 01:33:37,710 --> 01:33:41,640 can't even think because I think it would be the end of our 1621 01:33:41,820 --> 01:33:45,960 country as we know it. And I don't say that, you know, I 1622 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:49,830 hated losing, and especially hated losing to him, because I 1623 01:33:49,830 --> 01:33:53,100 had seen so many warning signals during the campaign. But I 1624 01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:56,640 immediately said, Look, we have to give them a chance we got to 1625 01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:00,450 support. You know, the president we have, and I meant it, and I 1626 01:34:00,450 --> 01:34:03,720 tried really hard and then the resistance. 1627 01:34:06,630 --> 01:34:08,670 Adam Curry: Hey, man, bring up Hitler 1628 01:34:08,700 --> 01:34:12,480 Unknown: No. campaign. But I immediately said, Look, we have 1629 01:34:12,480 --> 01:34:16,380 to give them a chance. We've got to support long the president we 1630 01:34:16,380 --> 01:34:20,280 have and I meant it. And I tried really hard. And then literally 1631 01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:24,750 from his inauguration on, it was nothing but you know, loving 1632 01:34:24,750 --> 01:34:28,350 people of things, making up facts denying the size of the 1633 01:34:28,350 --> 01:34:32,100 crowd at his own inauguration. And everything that I worried 1634 01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:37,620 about, I saw unfolding. And so I think that he'd be even worse 1635 01:34:37,620 --> 01:34:42,240 now. Because he was somewhat restrained, believe it or not, 1636 01:34:43,140 --> 01:34:48,120 first term by people who he hired, because he thought they 1637 01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:52,410 would go along with him and they stood up to him. And so now he 1638 01:34:52,410 --> 01:34:53,100 is going to 1639 01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,720 John C Dvorak: stop, stop, stop. Do you remember the narrative 1640 01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:03,120 that nobody would stand up to him? Yes, well, apparently that 1641 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,360 was not the narrative is every everyone was standing up to him. 1642 01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:08,760 And that's why he didn't destroy the country, people 1643 01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:09,810 Adam Curry: move to Canada, 1644 01:35:10,500 --> 01:35:14,730 Unknown: by people who he hired, because he thought they would go 1645 01:35:14,730 --> 01:35:18,810 along with him. And they stood up to him. And so now he is 1646 01:35:18,810 --> 01:35:22,200 going to, if you were ever near the oval office again, find 1647 01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:26,160 people who have no principles, no conscience, who are totally 1648 01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:30,450 tied, you know, to his fortunes literally, literally, therefore, 1649 01:35:30,450 --> 01:35:34,680 would do whatever he said. And so the the wreckage is almost 1650 01:35:34,710 --> 01:35:36,990 unimaginable. You know, when I was secretary of state, I used 1651 01:35:36,990 --> 01:35:40,560 to talk about one and done and what I meant by that is that 1652 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:45,720 people would get legitimately elected. And then they would try 1653 01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:49,410 to do away with elections and do away with opposition, and do 1654 01:35:49,410 --> 01:35:51,750 away with a free press like and like 1655 01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:57,210 Adam Curry: it's just talking about escapes. So how to do a 1656 01:35:57,510 --> 01:35:59,580 Hitler bring up Hitler Hitler a 1657 01:35:59,610 --> 01:36:02,880 Unknown: way with elections and do away with opposition, and do 1658 01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:07,050 away with a free press. And you could see it in countries where 1659 01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:12,930 well, Hitler was truly, right. And so all of a sudden, somebody 1660 01:36:12,930 --> 01:36:16,110 with those tendencies so dictatorial authoritarian 1661 01:36:16,110 --> 01:36:19,590 tendencies would be like, Okay, we're going to shut this down. 1662 01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:22,320 We're going to throw these people in jail. Yes. And they 1663 01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:26,970 didn't usually Telegraph that. Trump is telling us what he had. 1664 01:36:29,370 --> 01:36:33,780 At his word, as the man means to throw people in jail, who 1665 01:36:33,780 --> 01:36:38,160 disagree with them, shut down legitimate press outlets do what 1666 01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,520 he can to literally undermine the rule of law. He 1667 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:45,120 Adam Curry: keeps hit the crowds in 2016. were chanting, lock her 1668 01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,970 up, lock her up. He didn't even throw Hillary in jail. 1669 01:36:48,030 --> 01:36:50,070 Unknown: And our country's valuables used the military 1670 01:36:50,070 --> 01:36:50,340 never 1671 01:36:50,340 --> 01:36:52,680 John C Dvorak: even indicted her for anything, even though she 1672 01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,920 clearly violated the law. Protesters, 1673 01:36:55,950 --> 01:36:57,840 Unknown: he's gonna do it. He's not gonna do a whole bunch of 1674 01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:04,680 stuff right now. Not right now. But we'll find out what more we 1675 01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:05,700 think can go on. 1676 01:37:07,980 --> 01:37:10,080 Adam Curry: happened now, something interesting happened. 1677 01:37:10,350 --> 01:37:14,910 But I think legal at ABC called down to the studio and said, you 1678 01:37:14,910 --> 01:37:17,850 know, we got a problem with what joy was ad libbing there. You 1679 01:37:17,850 --> 01:37:21,060 know, this is a tightly scripted program. So we're not quite sure 1680 01:37:21,060 --> 01:37:23,700 why she did that. We need a retraction on the air people 1681 01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:24,210 back 1682 01:37:24,210 --> 01:37:26,820 Unknown: with former Secretary of State the fabulous Hillary 1683 01:37:26,820 --> 01:37:29,130 Clinton. But I was saying before I just 1684 01:37:30,540 --> 01:37:33,990 let me get let me get a list and please correct me something. Oh, 1685 01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:37,230 you do? Yeah. Because I don't want the impression to be made 1686 01:37:37,230 --> 01:37:40,440 that I didn't accept the results of the lead the Trump 1687 01:37:40,440 --> 01:37:43,230 administration to win, but I don't like the Electoral 1688 01:37:43,230 --> 01:37:47,550 College. The popular he won the Electoral College. And that's 1689 01:37:47,550 --> 01:37:50,790 the thing that needs to be addressed. Because this person 1690 01:37:50,790 --> 01:37:54,450 was based on slavery. Yeah. And I think it's an American. It's 1691 01:37:54,450 --> 01:37:55,200 an American. 1692 01:37:57,060 --> 01:37:59,310 Adam Curry: I think the electoral college is unAmerican. 1693 01:37:59,700 --> 01:38:01,710 We got to get rid of that. That's the problem we have to 1694 01:38:01,710 --> 01:38:04,800 address. And I don't want to sound like an election denier. 1695 01:38:04,860 --> 01:38:06,720 According to ABC legal. 1696 01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,680 John C Dvorak: Speak. Yeah, you're right. Somebody made the 1697 01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:13,560 call down. Totally. Yeah, you're right. And this show is very 1698 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:14,190 scripted. 1699 01:38:14,250 --> 01:38:18,570 Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. She went off script. Oh, man, it's just 1700 01:38:18,570 --> 01:38:23,700 so tiring. Yeah. And we still have a whole year to go. Just 1701 01:38:23,700 --> 01:38:26,760 gonna get worse shot a whole year. I don't know if we can we 1702 01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,380 can handle this. So yeah, 1703 01:38:28,380 --> 01:38:29,520 John C Dvorak: we were the best. 1704 01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:35,580 Adam Curry: Were the best. Yes. So I have some some were the 1705 01:38:35,580 --> 01:38:39,240 best. Were the best or the best or the best at handling this. 1706 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,930 Yes. Take it easy. People. Don't worry. We got another year to go 1707 01:38:43,050 --> 01:38:45,660 before you have to have your vote changed by the machine. 1708 01:38:46,050 --> 01:38:49,740 Yeah. And the voting machine whenever I think ink in the oh, 1709 01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:53,220 by the way, we have the I voted done. 1710 01:38:53,250 --> 01:38:55,440 John C Dvorak: We have Yeah, them over the finger. That 1711 01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:59,400 purple finger foam finger tip. Just put me here's what's going 1712 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:03,870 on. We're gonna have some action here in the city. Oh, Cisco. Oh, 1713 01:39:04,290 --> 01:39:07,500 gee in San Francisco, part one from NTD 1714 01:39:07,650 --> 01:39:11,550 Unknown: 20,000. Attendees representing 21 member economies 1715 01:39:11,550 --> 01:39:14,370 will be in the city of San Francisco. But what are the 1716 01:39:14,370 --> 01:39:18,150 highlights other than heightened security massive road closures 1717 01:39:18,210 --> 01:39:19,650 and protests? I 1718 01:39:19,650 --> 01:39:22,320 think it's particularly significant this year because 1719 01:39:22,650 --> 01:39:25,800 with the tension between the United States and China, the 1720 01:39:25,890 --> 01:39:29,190 opportunity to have President Xi meet with President Biden is a 1721 01:39:29,190 --> 01:39:30,870 very important one. The 1722 01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:34,320 White House announced last week that US President Biden will 1723 01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,650 meet with a Chinese leader Xi Jinping making the first time 1724 01:39:37,650 --> 01:39:40,800 the two leaders will speak in person since a year ago. 1725 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:41,760 Challenges 1726 01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:46,140 are facing a lot of pressure of dunk downturn in the economy in 1727 01:39:46,140 --> 01:39:50,640 China. He won the American business have to to go to China 1728 01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:54,870 to make more investment and he also wants Americans to buy more 1729 01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:59,820 products from China. So that's why he's coming both sides 1730 01:39:59,820 --> 01:40:02,670 up been showing signs of easing up detentions. 1731 01:40:02,820 --> 01:40:05,250 As I've said, since the beginning to my administration, 1732 01:40:05,700 --> 01:40:08,670 we see competition, not conflict with China. 1733 01:40:09,210 --> 01:40:13,140 We're not looking for a new Cold War. Treasury Secretary Janet 1734 01:40:13,170 --> 01:40:17,790 Yellen is also scheduled to host the Chinese Vice Premier Li funk 1735 01:40:17,820 --> 01:40:21,690 for two days in San Francisco before the start of the APEC 1736 01:40:21,690 --> 01:40:25,440 summit. This all comes on the heels of California Governor 1737 01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:29,160 nuisance recent a week long visit to China, a meeting with 1738 01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:30,510 the Chinese President Xi. 1739 01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:32,940 Adam Curry: Well, this is interesting. Why didn't they 1740 01:40:32,940 --> 01:40:36,360 talk about that at the debate last night? What a perfect 1741 01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:37,230 opportunity. 1742 01:40:37,830 --> 01:40:40,320 John C Dvorak: So the Seoul City has been going to be shut down. 1743 01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,810 Basically, you can't go over there. That couple of bridge 1744 01:40:42,810 --> 01:40:44,700 lanes are gonna be closed. Oh, 1745 01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:46,920 Adam Curry: you mean the homeless can't move around the 1746 01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:47,730 day? Oh, no, they've 1747 01:40:47,730 --> 01:40:52,230 John C Dvorak: already rousted them. They've robbed the 1748 01:40:52,230 --> 01:40:54,210 homeless cleaned up the poop where 1749 01:40:54,210 --> 01:40:54,870 Adam Curry: they put him? 1750 01:40:55,140 --> 01:40:57,210 John C Dvorak: I have no idea. I've been trying to figure it 1751 01:40:57,210 --> 01:41:00,000 out by the news reports, but all I know is that the whole I would 1752 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,340 like take a drive over there. Maybe I'll do it tomorrow, go 1753 01:41:02,370 --> 01:41:05,040 see what's going on. Because they have threatened me, they 1754 01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:08,760 are gusting up the city. They're spending all the money they can 1755 01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:12,060 to gussy it up for because they know that Chinese media is going 1756 01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:15,450 to be here. And if they see one homeless guy pooping on the 1757 01:41:15,450 --> 01:41:18,330 street, they're gonna bet to be all over Chinese news. And it'd 1758 01:41:18,330 --> 01:41:20,490 be a humiliation for the for us mafia. 1759 01:41:20,490 --> 01:41:23,250 Adam Curry: Hold on hold on a second, because first of all, GE 1760 01:41:23,250 --> 01:41:26,670 is coming here because he wants more business he wants which is 1761 01:41:26,700 --> 01:41:30,330 which is our dark deal. And everything manufactured in 1762 01:41:30,330 --> 01:41:33,660 China, we buy it dollars, they go around, they buy our debt. I 1763 01:41:33,660 --> 01:41:38,670 mean, it's a system. So this really detracts from the whole 1764 01:41:38,670 --> 01:41:41,310 Republican debate. I mean, someone should have said, I 1765 01:41:41,310 --> 01:41:44,730 can't believe San Francisco is gonna have G over Biden's gonna 1766 01:41:44,730 --> 01:41:47,760 be wishy he's our enemy. They didn't do any of that. Because 1767 01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:48,210 I've done 1768 01:41:48,210 --> 01:41:52,800 John C Dvorak: an outstanding rap. It's all scripted, 1769 01:41:54,030 --> 01:41:56,970 scripted, they're gonna you know, and Biden comes into town 1770 01:41:56,970 --> 01:41:59,190 and causes nothing but trouble. You got to pick 1771 01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:01,560 Adam Curry: it, you got to paint your roof blue John, just so 1772 01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:04,260 that, you know, direct energy weapon gets deployed to be 1773 01:42:04,260 --> 01:42:04,830 careful. 1774 01:42:06,180 --> 01:42:07,500 John C Dvorak: So hey, here's part two. 1775 01:42:08,190 --> 01:42:11,040 Unknown: The key discussions of this year summit will center 1776 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,910 around trade technology transfer and economic development. 1777 01:42:15,090 --> 01:42:17,430 The United States is very concerned about technology 1778 01:42:17,430 --> 01:42:20,550 transfer to China, the United States has been very aggressive 1779 01:42:20,550 --> 01:42:24,060 in pushing restrictions on semiconductors. And that's been 1780 01:42:24,060 --> 01:42:26,550 a very important issue for us because we're very concerned 1781 01:42:26,550 --> 01:42:29,460 about the transfer of technology to China, potentially for 1782 01:42:29,460 --> 01:42:30,630 defense purposes, 1783 01:42:30,660 --> 01:42:34,320 but others are skeptical of China's position and economic 1784 01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:34,980 sector. 1785 01:42:35,130 --> 01:42:39,780 More than 90% of Americans have negative opinions about China. 1786 01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:43,830 So I don't see she is going to be very successful to attract a 1787 01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:45,930 lot of investments to China. 1788 01:42:46,140 --> 01:42:50,460 While APEC is intended to be an economic forum, political topics 1789 01:42:50,460 --> 01:42:53,730 that do come up during discussions among world leaders, 1790 01:42:53,820 --> 01:42:57,030 especially when international tensions are high with the 1791 01:42:57,030 --> 01:43:00,780 current Russia, Ukraine war and conflicts in the Middle East. 1792 01:43:01,260 --> 01:43:04,530 Meanwhile, San Francisco is aggressively clearing homeless 1793 01:43:04,530 --> 01:43:08,100 encampments, increasing drug related arrests to improve the 1794 01:43:08,100 --> 01:43:11,850 city's image as delegations arrived. Hey, that'll 1795 01:43:11,850 --> 01:43:15,960 Adam Curry: fool them. Yeah. Clean up the streets. That'll 1796 01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,810 trick them into thinking everything's great here. The 1797 01:43:18,810 --> 01:43:20,910 John C Dvorak: question you asked earlier is the question I 1798 01:43:20,910 --> 01:43:21,780 still have when 1799 01:43:22,230 --> 01:43:24,000 Adam Curry: putting them in. Now is this going to be at the 1800 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,040 Moscone Center where they're going to do it? Yeah, it's 1801 01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:27,720 John C Dvorak: gonna be right near Moscone Center. It's 1802 01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:31,110 actually two sections are going to be blocked. blockaded, is 1803 01:43:31,110 --> 01:43:35,040 going to be the entire Moscone area. No, no traffic. And the 1804 01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:37,890 Fairmont. I guess they're putting everybody up at the 1805 01:43:37,890 --> 01:43:39,660 Fairmont up on top of the hill. 1806 01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,080 Adam Curry: Oh, is it not the Fairmont and Union Square? 1807 01:43:44,190 --> 01:43:46,350 John C Dvorak: No, this is a fair amount on the hill. There 1808 01:43:46,350 --> 01:43:48,060 is no Fairmont on Union Square. What's 1809 01:43:48,060 --> 01:43:49,800 Adam Curry: the Union Square? There's something with an F I 1810 01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,560 thought the Pharaohs of Fairmont there was a fair amount of Union 1811 01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:55,890 Square. thought there was a fair amount there, which is filled 1812 01:43:55,890 --> 01:43:59,070 with the homeless. Remember? 1813 01:44:00,270 --> 01:44:04,170 John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Now maybe maybe I'm confused. Maybe 1814 01:44:04,170 --> 01:44:07,650 it is the Union Square Hotel. That's still at some distance 1815 01:44:07,650 --> 01:44:11,550 still a distance away from the from the 1816 01:44:11,940 --> 01:44:14,400 Adam Curry: homeless in the Fairmont. I'm sure of it. 1817 01:44:14,610 --> 01:44:16,410 John C Dvorak: I don't know if they put the homeless in there. 1818 01:44:16,410 --> 01:44:20,670 I think it was they tried to not do that. But whatever the case 1819 01:44:20,670 --> 01:44:24,870 is, that's all blockaded. So the city's gonna be a mess. So 1820 01:44:25,230 --> 01:44:27,960 nobody should go to San Francisco but I again I don't 1821 01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:30,300 know what they've done with all these people. And his hunt 1822 01:44:30,330 --> 01:44:34,080 hundreds of I think it was like 6500 I think they should this is 1823 01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,300 the time to initiate the shanty town 1824 01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:39,990 Adam Curry: on the hill at the Fairmont on the hill where 1825 01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:42,720 John C Dvorak: Yeah, on the hill where they have a view just like 1826 01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:43,830 Brazil. Perfect 1827 01:44:43,860 --> 01:44:46,350 Adam Curry: now no one cares about the American homeless no 1828 01:44:46,350 --> 01:44:48,900 one cares about the drug addicts. No, we care about 1829 01:44:48,900 --> 01:44:53,100 Hamas, Israel. You aren't 1830 01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:58,380 John C Dvorak: just talking about that. 1831 01:44:58,740 --> 01:45:01,680 Adam Curry: Oh, please, please. Can we not talk about that? I'm 1832 01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:02,760 so tired. I 1833 01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:04,950 John C Dvorak: want to talk about because I got these clips. 1834 01:45:05,010 --> 01:45:12,510 Okay, this is Dershowitz. All right. And Dershowitz went on 1835 01:45:12,510 --> 01:45:15,780 the I think it's a little TV local TV show or something that 1836 01:45:16,050 --> 01:45:17,700 that Huckabee does. 1837 01:45:17,730 --> 01:45:21,000 Adam Curry: He can't get on any other network no one else has. 1838 01:45:21,270 --> 01:45:24,450 John C Dvorak: So he's on TBD as he's called TBCs on with 1839 01:45:24,450 --> 01:45:28,800 Huckabee, how can be has a show? Yeah, yeah. It could be as a 1840 01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:34,320 show. And so Dersch went on the show in the last few weeks, and 1841 01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,980 he was doing a lamentation which I had to have to, I had what 1842 01:45:37,980 --> 01:45:43,350 what is lamentation? What's kind of a Christian idea? Is where 1843 01:45:43,350 --> 01:45:49,770 you just lament your view rose. Oh, you know, this, you know, 1844 01:45:49,770 --> 01:45:52,560 the worst day? And I think, you know, you're just it's, it's 1845 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:56,910 kind of a prayer in some ways, but he's not Catholic. Maybe 1846 01:45:56,910 --> 01:45:59,700 he's Catholic. Maybe it's not anything else. But it's a 1847 01:45:59,700 --> 01:46:01,470 moaning and groaning that's 1848 01:46:01,470 --> 01:46:04,440 Adam Curry: Jewish. Come on, get your religious Jewish. There you 1849 01:46:04,440 --> 01:46:05,010 go. 1850 01:46:05,340 --> 01:46:08,160 John C Dvorak: So he comes up with a lamentation I have to cut 1851 01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:12,210 two clips here. And the lamentation as I listened to it, 1852 01:46:12,330 --> 01:46:15,600 because I followed this guy since I was in college. This 1853 01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:21,900 guy's old and delimitation that much of this is actually his 1854 01:46:21,900 --> 01:46:22,680 fault. 1855 01:46:23,700 --> 01:46:26,490 Unknown: But the professor's I'm sorry. 1856 01:46:26,580 --> 01:46:28,620 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I thought you were Yeah, let me finish was 1857 01:46:28,620 --> 01:46:30,000 way too big of a pause. 1858 01:46:31,980 --> 01:46:34,050 John C Dvorak: Sorry, Jewish professor, that would You're 1859 01:46:34,050 --> 01:46:38,940 right. You hit the you hit it. But Jewish professors are 1860 01:46:38,940 --> 01:46:43,710 largely responsible for what's happened in the colleges. And 1861 01:46:43,710 --> 01:46:47,550 now they're doing lamentation about it. And they blame 1862 01:46:47,550 --> 01:46:49,080 everybody but themselves and 1863 01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:52,890 Adam Curry: you want to you want to back that claim up. What are 1864 01:46:52,890 --> 01:46:56,460 you saying? Jewish professors are responsible for wokeness? 1865 01:46:57,210 --> 01:46:57,870 Unknown: Yeah. 1866 01:46:58,980 --> 01:47:02,970 Adam Curry: You before we play these clips do explain. I've 1867 01:47:02,970 --> 01:47:04,740 John C Dvorak: been through this system. I went to University of 1868 01:47:04,740 --> 01:47:09,360 California, Berkeley, and the Jewish liberal elite in this 1869 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,840 country is largely responsible for wokeness. 1870 01:47:13,980 --> 01:47:17,490 Adam Curry: Wow, the I don't think I've heard this accusation 1871 01:47:17,490 --> 01:47:21,780 yet anywhere. After Oh, there it is. have to check with Dan bond 1872 01:47:21,780 --> 01:47:24,210 Gino Techwin Mancino. He'll 1873 01:47:24,210 --> 01:47:25,170 John C Dvorak: tell you what 1874 01:47:25,170 --> 01:47:29,220 Unknown: the ultimate victims are all good people. All 1875 01:47:29,220 --> 01:47:33,750 Americans, Judeo Christian values. That's what's under 1876 01:47:33,750 --> 01:47:38,340 attack. This is a war between decency and barbarism not 1877 01:47:38,340 --> 01:47:42,360 talking about the Palestinian people. They should be saved 1878 01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:45,600 from Hamas and allowed to live in peace. I'm talking about 1879 01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:50,550 these people from Hamas that raped and these people at 1880 01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:54,540 Harvard who support the rapist? Can you imagine them supporting 1881 01:47:54,540 --> 01:47:58,140 rapists? in any other context? I cannot 1882 01:47:58,170 --> 01:48:00,630 you you talk there for many years, one of the most 1883 01:48:00,660 --> 01:48:04,620 distinguished professors of law anywhere. Your career at Harvard 1884 01:48:04,650 --> 01:48:05,190 was 1885 01:48:05,220 --> 01:48:09,660 Adam Curry: the seller. However question, since when is rapists 1886 01:48:09,690 --> 01:48:16,680 worse than killers? He kind of positions raping above killing 1887 01:48:16,770 --> 01:48:17,940 Did I did I misunderstood 1888 01:48:17,940 --> 01:48:21,000 John C Dvorak: why he never mentioned his killings. I think 1889 01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:22,500 that was just an oversight. Okay. 1890 01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,800 Unknown: I cannot you you talk there for many years, one of the 1891 01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:29,670 most distinguished professors of law anywhere. Your career at 1892 01:48:29,670 --> 01:48:33,780 Harvard was the stellar Are you shocked by what you're saying? 1893 01:48:33,810 --> 01:48:34,350 You know, it 1894 01:48:34,350 --> 01:48:38,220 reminds me of I remember reading about a Jewish professor in 1895 01:48:38,220 --> 01:48:43,470 Berlin, who love to teach German students. And then he was taken 1896 01:48:43,500 --> 01:48:46,980 into the gas chambers by one of his own students. 10 years 1897 01:48:46,980 --> 01:48:51,210 later, when I think of my students who I taught, I labored 1898 01:48:51,210 --> 01:48:55,260 over I love them. I wrote them recommendations. And then they 1899 01:48:55,260 --> 01:49:00,960 write a petition saying it's all Israel's fault. Imagine if I had 1900 01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:04,680 students who were in the Ku Klux Klan, and they said, Oh, those 1901 01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:09,000 black people who were lynched, it was their fault, or those 1902 01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:12,510 women who were raped, it was their fault, or the people who 1903 01:49:12,510 --> 01:49:16,020 were shot in the street. It was their fault. That's what these 1904 01:49:16,020 --> 01:49:20,010 students were saying. And I said to myself, I taught them for 50 1905 01:49:20,010 --> 01:49:23,010 years. What has gone wrong? 1906 01:49:24,450 --> 01:49:28,230 John C Dvorak: Tick tock hollows meant tick 1907 01:49:28,230 --> 01:49:31,020 Adam Curry: tock. What else could have gone right? These are 1908 01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:36,030 MK Ultra trauma, mind controlled human beings. Hello. 1909 01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,580 John C Dvorak: But he did a shitty job of teaching him if 1910 01:49:38,580 --> 01:49:41,100 they'll if they turned on him. And I would say the same thing 1911 01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:46,350 to that. A folklore ish story about the Jewish professor was 1912 01:49:46,350 --> 01:49:47,970 walked into the gas chambers by one. 1913 01:49:48,060 --> 01:49:50,490 Adam Curry: I've never heard this story, but it's a good one. 1914 01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:51,900 It's a good one. But you 1915 01:49:51,900 --> 01:49:54,390 John C Dvorak: know, and it probably happened at some level 1916 01:49:54,390 --> 01:49:55,830 in some way. Yeah, but 1917 01:49:56,850 --> 01:49:57,990 Adam Curry: George Soros walked 1918 01:49:59,910 --> 01:50:03,930 Unknown: in happiest time of my life or as was the guy, happiest 1919 01:50:03,930 --> 01:50:05,520 time of my life? Yes. 1920 01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:14,280 John C Dvorak: Yes. And so so this lament is goes on and it's 1921 01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:18,120 really He's beside himself with this. And I think he should be 1922 01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:23,880 because it's like what? It's, he has to have some reason to think 1923 01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:27,990 that there's he's got something to do with it. So let's go with 1924 01:50:28,980 --> 01:50:31,290 part two second part of this clip, it 1925 01:50:31,290 --> 01:50:34,200 Unknown: must be a little comforting to see that many of 1926 01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:37,320 the high dollar donors to schools like Harvard and Penn 1927 01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,800 and others are saying we're not giving any more money unless you 1928 01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:41,670 stand against this 1929 01:50:41,670 --> 01:50:45,420 on Jews as well as Jews. Yes, Huntsman and Mormon now has said 1930 01:50:45,420 --> 01:50:48,690 that many many other people they've said, Look, we have a 1931 01:50:48,690 --> 01:50:51,750 lot of places to give our money to. We've given it to Harvard 1932 01:50:51,750 --> 01:50:56,400 and Yale and other schools. But look what they've turned out. 1933 01:50:56,550 --> 01:50:59,460 There has to be a reckoning when George Floyd was killed and it 1934 01:50:59,460 --> 01:51:03,210 was horrible. One man filled with drugs, long history of 1935 01:51:03,210 --> 01:51:07,350 front one man is killed. What happens a major reckoning in 1936 01:51:07,350 --> 01:51:10,710 every American not only University Media Company 1937 01:51:10,710 --> 01:51:16,050 Corporation, admission standards change the curriculum change. We 1938 01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:21,510 need a reckoning by universities about their attitude toward Jews 1939 01:51:21,570 --> 01:51:26,430 toward Judeo Christian values toward America toward 1940 01:51:26,430 --> 01:51:30,960 patriotism. We need a reckoning and until that reckoning thumbs 1941 01:51:31,740 --> 01:51:35,820 we must stop supporting those schools financial 1942 01:51:37,140 --> 01:51:38,940 Adam Curry: All right, got a little applause there. 1943 01:51:39,510 --> 01:51:44,640 John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Well, I just found this to be funny. 1944 01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:48,450 Adam Curry: It's funny because is he just now figuring out that 1945 01:51:48,480 --> 01:51:51,000 John C Dvorak: that's, that's what's funny. You're just new. 1946 01:51:51,030 --> 01:51:55,260 You isolated the humorous moment. Has he just after he's 1947 01:51:55,260 --> 01:51:59,550 like his ad or something now? He just figured this out. 1948 01:52:00,210 --> 01:52:06,360 Adam Curry: And that he's to blame. And he's to blame. Oh, 1949 01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:11,010 goodness. Well, since you broach the topic, let's get a little 1950 01:52:11,010 --> 01:52:14,280 update from our resident spook Richard angle. Let's see what's 1951 01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,800 going on, buddy. Let's see what's happening. The Israeli 1952 01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,950 Unknown: military says it's fighting inside Gaza City 1953 01:52:19,950 --> 01:52:24,960 tonight. Releasing this video of soldiers on the hunt thing 1954 01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:25,410 again, 1955 01:52:25,410 --> 01:52:28,290 Adam Curry: I have to give props because you know, you don't even 1956 01:52:28,290 --> 01:52:33,090 have to see the video to win just you hear all the explosions 1957 01:52:33,090 --> 01:52:38,910 and the death and destruction. This is so bad for This Is War 1958 01:52:38,910 --> 01:52:42,660 noise. You've heard or noise four to four. You've heard a 1959 01:52:42,660 --> 01:52:45,810 food noise. This is war noise in your brain. The 1960 01:52:45,810 --> 01:52:49,320 Unknown: Israeli military says it's fighting inside Gaza City 1961 01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:54,930 tonight. Releasing this video of soldiers on the hunt for Hamas. 1962 01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:59,130 Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu says Israel will take overall 1963 01:52:59,130 --> 01:53:03,630 security responsibility in Gaza for an unspecified period to 1964 01:53:03,630 --> 01:53:07,140 prevent another Hamas attack, prompting this response from the 1965 01:53:07,140 --> 01:53:08,430 White House President 1966 01:53:08,430 --> 01:53:13,590 maintains his position that reoccupation by Israeli forces 1967 01:53:13,590 --> 01:53:14,790 is not the right thing to do. 1968 01:53:15,270 --> 01:53:18,630 Israel's air and ground offensive is turning cities 1969 01:53:18,870 --> 01:53:23,580 wastelands and many Palestinians say Israel is carrying out its 1970 01:53:23,580 --> 01:53:28,260 revenge against 2.3 million people who can't leave the Gaza 1971 01:53:28,260 --> 01:53:33,420 Strip one month on and this war still seems to be in its early 1972 01:53:33,420 --> 01:53:34,830 stages. That 1973 01:53:34,830 --> 01:53:37,500 Richard I know there's also a new headline tonight about the 1974 01:53:37,500 --> 01:53:39,750 wars impact on the people of Gaza. 1975 01:53:41,340 --> 01:53:45,420 The UN said today 70% of Gazans have been displaced from their 1976 01:53:45,420 --> 01:53:48,300 homes since the start of the war. That's about one and a half 1977 01:53:48,300 --> 01:53:49,530 million people, Lester. 1978 01:53:53,550 --> 01:53:59,340 Adam Curry: We have let's see. We have Israel being very bad. 1979 01:53:59,700 --> 01:54:01,680 CBS CBS has this report. 1980 01:54:01,710 --> 01:54:04,950 Unknown: President Biden called Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu 1981 01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:08,550 again this morning telling him it is imperative to reduce 1982 01:54:08,550 --> 01:54:12,180 civilian casualties in Gaza, which by us count are 1983 01:54:12,180 --> 01:54:12,930 skyrocketing. 1984 01:54:13,140 --> 01:54:19,740 Many many 1000s have been killed and many more injured or 1985 01:54:19,740 --> 01:54:20,250 wounded. 1986 01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:24,270 US officials say the majority of bombs Israel has dropped on Gaza 1987 01:54:24,570 --> 01:54:28,800 are unguided so called dumb bombs, which are accurate but 1988 01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,110 less precise than satellite guided weapons. 1989 01:54:31,170 --> 01:54:33,810 Adam Curry: I can't believe that using dumb bombs. How about the 1990 01:54:33,810 --> 01:54:37,140 smart bombs the smart but we've been using surgical strikes from 1991 01:54:37,140 --> 01:54:41,790 smart bombs for decades now. They're using dumb bombs. These 1992 01:54:41,790 --> 01:54:44,190 Unknown: officials say the primary cause of civilian 1993 01:54:44,190 --> 01:54:48,300 casualties is not the message. But Israel's willingness to 1994 01:54:48,300 --> 01:54:52,740 strike targets Hamas located in civilian neighborhoods. This is 1995 01:54:52,740 --> 01:54:56,640 tragic, but we cannot allow for mass immunity just because they 1996 01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:57,900 hide behind civilians. 1997 01:54:59,340 --> 01:55:02,160 Israel claims Seems it has killed more than 60 Hamas 1998 01:55:02,190 --> 01:55:05,880 operatives, but US officials questioned whether the military 1999 01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:09,180 value of the strikes is worth the civilian harm 2000 01:55:09,420 --> 01:55:11,550 Adam Curry: to listen to the horrible noises in the 2001 01:55:11,550 --> 01:55:15,360 background people in sheer terror. Good job CBS the 2002 01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:15,900 Israelis 2003 01:55:15,900 --> 01:55:18,570 Unknown: are dropped leaflets warning civilians to flee 2004 01:55:18,570 --> 01:55:23,520 northern Gaza. Even so said one US official civilian casualties 2005 01:55:23,550 --> 01:55:25,530 are not a priority of their 2006 01:55:25,650 --> 01:55:29,040 Adam Curry: you know, if you look online right now, man, it 2007 01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:30,630 doesn't matter where you load weight 2008 01:55:30,630 --> 01:55:34,410 John C Dvorak: will stop from what he said something 2009 01:55:34,410 --> 01:55:40,500 interesting the way he said it. Civilian casualties are not a 2010 01:55:40,500 --> 01:55:43,530 priority. I'm gonna listen again, you have sufficient 2011 01:55:43,530 --> 01:55:45,030 sentences that what does that mean? 2012 01:55:45,060 --> 01:55:47,700 Unknown: Let's listen question whether the military value of 2013 01:55:47,700 --> 01:55:51,600 the strikes is worth the civilian harm. Israelis have 2014 01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:55,020 dropped leaflets warning civilians to flee northern Gaza. 2015 01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:59,820 Even so said one US official civilian casualties are not a 2016 01:55:59,820 --> 01:56:03,210 priority of theirs. Okay, well, 2017 01:56:04,260 --> 01:56:06,570 John C Dvorak: does that mean that you would prioritize you 2018 01:56:06,570 --> 01:56:08,910 want more civilian cancer casualties? 2019 01:56:09,870 --> 01:56:11,550 Adam Curry: That's one way of looking at it. They 2020 01:56:11,550 --> 01:56:12,900 John C Dvorak: say that. Well, 2021 01:56:12,900 --> 01:56:14,160 Adam Curry: now I have to finish the report. 2022 01:56:14,190 --> 01:56:18,150 Unknown: Oh, Israel does this matters. We will focus as well 2023 01:56:18,150 --> 01:56:23,940 on steps that need to be taken to protect civilians who are in 2024 01:56:23,940 --> 01:56:26,460 a crossfire of Mostess. Making us 2025 01:56:26,460 --> 01:56:30,000 is already shipping Israel precision guided 250 pound 2026 01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:33,960 bombs, which have a much smaller blast radius, compared to some 2027 01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:37,440 of the bunker busters that have been used to go after the Hamas 2028 01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,920 tunnel system. Israel says it needs more white phosphorus 2029 01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:44,880 shells, which can be used to create smoke screens but also 2030 01:56:45,150 --> 01:56:49,050 cause horrific burns. A US official says the Biden 2031 01:56:49,050 --> 01:56:53,640 administration is unlikely to grant that request. Now 2032 01:56:53,700 --> 01:56:56,820 John C Dvorak: after we sell. We're just going to Ukraine. 2033 01:56:56,820 --> 01:56:59,730 Yeah, we say we sent cluster bombs to Ukraine. All but from 2034 01:56:59,730 --> 01:57:01,590 the white Bosphorus all Ukraine. Yeah, 2035 01:57:01,620 --> 01:57:04,830 Adam Curry: and we have evidence. Now we also mentioned 2036 01:57:04,830 --> 01:57:08,370 the tunnels. You and I both got the clip where at least both had 2037 01:57:08,370 --> 01:57:11,790 I saw you posted on no agenda social. So I have the clip, just 2038 01:57:11,790 --> 01:57:14,610 on the tunnels, which has always been this you know, there's 2039 01:57:14,610 --> 01:57:18,690 always a tunnel Bin Laden had a tunnel. It was so sophisticated 2040 01:57:18,690 --> 01:57:21,480 Bin Laden tunnel system. It wasn't just tunnels. It was 2041 01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:26,670 entire into quarters layers. And the here is Secretary of Defense 2042 01:57:26,670 --> 01:57:32,100 at the time, Donald Rumsfeld with things like Meet the Press. 2043 01:57:33,090 --> 01:57:34,800 With dead guy now. What's his name? 2044 01:57:35,070 --> 01:57:38,760 John C Dvorak: Yeah, you're right. Yeah, him that guy. And 2045 01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:42,330 he's got the picture that eight story tunnels deeply with 2046 01:57:42,330 --> 01:57:45,180 meeting room. Beds. Here's 2047 01:57:45,180 --> 01:57:47,100 Unknown: the clip, there was constant discussion about him 2048 01:57:47,100 --> 01:57:50,070 hiding out in caves. And I think many times the American people 2049 01:57:50,070 --> 01:57:52,770 have a perception that it's a little hole dug out of upside of 2050 01:57:52,770 --> 01:57:56,940 a mountain. Oh, no, this is it. This is a fortress, a complex 2051 01:57:56,970 --> 01:57:59,790 multi tiered bedrooms and offices on the top. As you can 2052 01:57:59,790 --> 01:58:04,110 see secret exits on the side and the and on the bottom, cut deep 2053 01:58:04,110 --> 01:58:07,170 to avoid thermal detection of ventilation system and to allow 2054 01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:10,500 people to breathe and to carry on entrances large enough to 2055 01:58:10,500 --> 01:58:14,250 drive trucks and even tanks, even computer systems and 2056 01:58:14,250 --> 01:58:18,300 telephone systems. It's a very sophisticated operation. Oh, you 2057 01:58:18,300 --> 01:58:22,230 bet. This is serious business. And there's not one of those. 2058 01:58:22,260 --> 01:58:23,790 There are many of those. 2059 01:58:23,820 --> 01:58:27,360 Adam Curry: Have we ever seen one of these caves? 2060 01:58:27,870 --> 01:58:31,920 John C Dvorak: Yes. On a James Bond, third movie, blow fell and 2061 01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:36,360 had one. That's where he got the idea from. 2062 01:58:37,980 --> 01:58:42,840 Adam Curry: That's good. That's good. I was gonna say that what 2063 01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:46,320 we're seeing some of its some of it is obviously on mainstream 2064 01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:50,370 television. But when you look on Twitter, when you look on 2065 01:58:50,670 --> 01:58:55,620 Telegram, when you look on the really anywhere, on any other 2066 01:58:55,620 --> 01:59:00,510 social networks, the death and destruction and horrible 2067 01:59:00,510 --> 01:59:05,520 pictures that we're being exposed to, every single day and 2068 01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:09,000 the algorithms pick it up. I mean, and I'm gonna date myself. 2069 01:59:09,390 --> 01:59:16,380 Back in the day. We had a video called Faces of death. Yeah. And 2070 01:59:16,380 --> 01:59:18,480 it was and it was passed around. You had a 2071 01:59:18,540 --> 01:59:21,210 John C Dvorak: you had, they were like, version two of that 2072 01:59:21,210 --> 01:59:21,450 thing. It 2073 01:59:21,450 --> 01:59:24,690 Adam Curry: was so popular. And you had a copy of a copy of a 2074 01:59:24,690 --> 01:59:28,260 copy of a call. It was good. Johari and it was all it was 2075 01:59:28,260 --> 01:59:32,310 just you know, it was all fuzzy. And you saw people dying in 2076 01:59:32,310 --> 01:59:36,270 horrific ways. And that was like, Oh man, you got faces of 2077 01:59:36,270 --> 01:59:38,940 death and we'd have we go over to someone's house. My parents 2078 01:59:38,940 --> 01:59:42,870 and my parents aren't home and we would watch that and it would 2079 01:59:42,870 --> 01:59:47,970 get disturbed by it. You know, disturbed, sad thing. And but 2080 01:59:47,970 --> 01:59:53,640 this is, this is on a non stop basis. It has this is it is 2081 01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:57,960 severe. It's very, very, very destructive to everybody. 2082 01:59:58,110 --> 02:00:01,530 Everybody you need to get up Need to get off this stuff? Get 2083 02:00:01,530 --> 02:00:01,830 off 2084 02:00:02,220 --> 02:00:05,550 John C Dvorak: social media, the even off get rid of your phone? 2085 02:00:05,550 --> 02:00:06,240 Yes. 2086 02:00:06,270 --> 02:00:11,970 Adam Curry: Yes be like JCD it is so destructive it is bad for 2087 02:00:11,970 --> 02:00:20,160 you. And I love the stories. So now there's some some evidence 2088 02:00:21,090 --> 02:00:25,620 that Associated Press CNN, The New York Times and Reuters had 2089 02:00:25,620 --> 02:00:32,490 journalists embedded with Hamas on the October 7 event. And they 2090 02:00:32,490 --> 02:00:35,400 were following them and taking they were ready. They were 2091 02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:40,170 they're ready for this to take place. Photographers without 2092 02:00:40,170 --> 02:00:41,280 borders. I don't 2093 02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:42,390 John C Dvorak: believe this for a minute. 2094 02:00:42,540 --> 02:00:46,320 Adam Curry: Well, the the mainstream itself was reporting 2095 02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:46,950 on this. 2096 02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:50,640 John C Dvorak: I would like to see some documentation they 2097 02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:53,070 Adam Curry: have there is some documentation. I would 2098 02:00:53,100 --> 02:00:55,500 John C Dvorak: like again, I'm very skeptical of this report. I 2099 02:00:55,500 --> 02:00:58,470 think it's just to demean the media, which is already in bad 2100 02:00:58,470 --> 02:00:58,860 shape. 2101 02:00:58,890 --> 02:01:00,150 Adam Curry: I'm good with it. If 2102 02:01:00,150 --> 02:01:02,250 John C Dvorak: any of this is true, I'm good with that, but 2103 02:01:02,250 --> 02:01:03,720 should be arrested. Well, 2104 02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:08,160 Adam Curry: they have they have pictures of known journalists of 2105 02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:14,880 them taking pictures before they go through the gate. So now, I'm 2106 02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:19,110 not sure I'm not sure but if it's to demean the media or I'm 2107 02:01:19,110 --> 02:01:20,700 good with that too. Well, 2108 02:01:20,700 --> 02:01:23,520 John C Dvorak: that's always applies still. And then the 2109 02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:25,170 other thing right reason I'd like 2110 02:01:25,170 --> 02:01:29,640 Adam Curry: to debunk the you know, this is this isn't just 2111 02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:33,480 about this is your this is about the canal, the Ben Gurion canal 2112 02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:39,990 project. No. Well, yeah, like they weren't it was going right 2113 02:01:39,990 --> 02:01:43,650 through Gaza. No, look at the map. Please look at the map. 2114 02:01:43,770 --> 02:01:51,030 It's about the pipeline. No, no, no. It's so tiring, just tiring 2115 02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:58,470 anyway, but I've got Broadway have I've got if we want to even 2116 02:01:58,470 --> 02:02:00,090 want to listen to Netanyahu what 2117 02:02:00,090 --> 02:02:04,140 John C Dvorak: he has to say. No, anybody but him. Okay. Well, 2118 02:02:04,140 --> 02:02:08,490 then let's do have a kind of an update that Hamas hostage update 2119 02:02:08,490 --> 02:02:09,870 from N T D. 2120 02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:13,680 Adam Curry: Okay. Let's listen to that. I'm sorry. You should 2121 02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:15,240 John C Dvorak: play the NTD intro. 2122 02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:19,950 Adam Curry: Oh, I thought you were sick. This is in D D. A. 2123 02:02:24,300 --> 02:02:28,170 Unknown: D D a cry for help on Capitol Hill. Families of Hamas 2124 02:02:28,170 --> 02:02:31,890 hostages tell their stories and asked the us to do more to 2125 02:02:31,890 --> 02:02:35,430 rescue their loved ones. And today's Molina Weiss cup has the 2126 02:02:35,430 --> 02:02:35,970 story. 2127 02:02:36,060 --> 02:02:39,150 We don't have the list of the hostages. We don't know their 2128 02:02:39,150 --> 02:02:44,010 condition. I don't have anything. So I need your help. 2129 02:02:45,300 --> 02:02:50,610 Oh seven my life stopped. When my two younger brothers Darlene 2130 02:02:50,610 --> 02:02:52,890 says the man who kidnapped Hamas 2131 02:02:52,890 --> 02:02:56,220 is believed to be holding hostage a total of around 240 2132 02:02:56,220 --> 02:02:59,400 people since their initial attack in Gaza one month ago, 2133 02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:02,460 just four hostages have been released in one has been 2134 02:03:02,460 --> 02:03:06,570 rescued. But the vast majority remain with little details. No. 2135 02:03:07,020 --> 02:03:07,890 Hamas took 2136 02:03:07,890 --> 02:03:13,020 them. The youngest said, I'm too young don't take me. There are 2137 02:03:13,020 --> 02:03:19,050 over 30 kids only 10 months old. And again, we do not know the 2138 02:03:19,050 --> 02:03:20,340 condition of any of them. 2139 02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:23,760 The Biden administration has called for a pause in fighting 2140 02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:27,900 to allow humanitarian aid to get through in for civilians to get 2141 02:03:27,900 --> 02:03:31,500 out. While many support the idea of pauses. Some Democrats are 2142 02:03:31,500 --> 02:03:35,490 critical of calls even within their own party for a ceasefire 2143 02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:37,920 before the hostages are released. 2144 02:03:38,070 --> 02:03:41,190 And the fact that there are people advocating for a 2145 02:03:41,190 --> 02:03:45,870 ceasefire without discussing that the hostages must be 2146 02:03:45,870 --> 02:03:51,000 returned, makes no sense and runs completely counter to our 2147 02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:52,230 American values. 2148 02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:56,070 Israel's Prime Minister is opposing a ceasefire until all 2149 02:03:56,070 --> 02:03:57,720 the hostages are released. 2150 02:03:57,750 --> 02:03:59,640 Adam Curry: Yeah, they're trying to get a script together. 2151 02:03:59,670 --> 02:04:02,730 They're trying to get a hostage situation we love a good hostage 2152 02:04:02,730 --> 02:04:06,240 situation story. We love that and then when you because it 2153 02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:09,660 always has a great payoff on the hostages are released. Screw 2154 02:04:09,660 --> 02:04:13,020 these people screw the whole media and all of this. All of 2155 02:04:13,020 --> 02:04:15,750 it's so disgusting. Let's look at Iran because that's the only 2156 02:04:15,750 --> 02:04:16,680 thing that matters. We 2157 02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:19,380 Unknown: begin tonight with breaking news. I was just 2158 02:04:19,380 --> 02:04:23,580 learning from the Pentagon about airstrikes in eastern Syria and 2159 02:04:23,580 --> 02:04:27,630 the target a weapons storage facility linked to Iran and 2160 02:04:27,630 --> 02:04:31,380 Iranian troops. Secretary of Defense revealing that the US 2161 02:04:31,380 --> 02:04:36,360 military is responding to more than 40 attacks on US forces in 2162 02:04:36,360 --> 02:04:40,680 Iraq and Syria. These attacks have left dozens of our soldiers 2163 02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:43,440 and troops with traumatic brain injuries. Let's get straight to 2164 02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:47,190 the breaking news with CBS at the White House. Good evening. 2165 02:04:47,250 --> 02:04:49,320 Good evening. We just come on learning break. What do you 2166 02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:49,890 learn anything 2167 02:04:49,890 --> 02:04:53,370 to you, Nora tonight at the direction of President Biden to 2168 02:04:53,370 --> 02:04:57,510 f 15 fighter jets launched airstrikes in eastern Syria at 2169 02:04:57,510 --> 02:05:01,350 that weapons facility that is used by Iran Revolutionary Guard 2170 02:05:01,500 --> 02:05:05,730 and proxy forces that are backed by Iran. They were in response 2171 02:05:05,730 --> 02:05:09,780 to attacks by those groups on US troops in both Syria and Iraq 2172 02:05:09,930 --> 02:05:13,830 over 40 In the last three weeks alone that have injured nearly 2173 02:05:13,830 --> 02:05:17,670 50 American servicemembers, and just today, US troops were 2174 02:05:17,670 --> 02:05:21,660 attacked again in Syria, and in another sign of the increased 2175 02:05:21,660 --> 02:05:25,080 tensions in the region and American region costing about 2176 02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:29,700 $30 million was shot down in the Red Sea by the Iranian backed 2177 02:05:29,700 --> 02:05:32,430 Houthi rebels. They had fired missiles last month toward 2178 02:05:32,460 --> 02:05:36,630 Israel, which were shot down by a US naval ship. President Biden 2179 02:05:36,630 --> 02:05:40,740 has repeatedly warned Iran a longtime adversary of Israel 2180 02:05:40,890 --> 02:05:44,490 against getting involved in the war in the Middle East. Nora, 2181 02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:47,610 and they are sending a message tonight no doubt, yes, 2182 02:05:47,910 --> 02:05:50,310 Adam Curry: a message tonight we're all jacked because that 2183 02:05:50,310 --> 02:05:53,190 message that's what the CIA does they start 2184 02:05:53,610 --> 02:05:56,640 John C Dvorak: still skeptical about these who themers things 2185 02:05:56,670 --> 02:05:59,670 of course, they got their own problems they should teach 2186 02:05:59,790 --> 02:06:03,060 sending random missiles across our fleets which are going to 2187 02:06:03,060 --> 02:06:06,420 shoot them down as they put it, CBS CIA 2188 02:06:06,420 --> 02:06:08,850 Adam Curry: broadcasting systems, all they want is to get 2189 02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:12,900 Iran a war with Iran going. That's the next I don't think 2190 02:06:12,900 --> 02:06:14,220 it's working. Actually, I'm 2191 02:06:14,220 --> 02:06:16,800 John C Dvorak: not I mean, the time's running out. Yeah, listen 2192 02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:17,250 to this one 2193 02:06:17,250 --> 02:06:19,860 Unknown: Secretary of State Antony Blinken, shuttle 2194 02:06:19,860 --> 02:06:22,860 diplomacy in the Middle East isn't the Biden administration's 2195 02:06:22,890 --> 02:06:26,550 only attempt at avoiding a wider war, we learned that a second 2196 02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:29,940 aircraft carrier the USS Eisenhower just arrived in the 2197 02:06:29,940 --> 02:06:33,330 Red Sea over the weekend, it is headed to the Persian Gulf. That 2198 02:06:33,330 --> 02:06:36,840 is a clear message of deterrence and it is directed at Iran. And 2199 02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:39,690 then just yesterday, the Pentagon revealing that a new US 2200 02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:42,960 nuclear submarine crossed through the Suez Canal. The fact 2201 02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:45,480 that we can see these pictures is very rare, but it is 2202 02:06:45,480 --> 02:06:49,890 deliberate a message these vessels operating even called 2203 02:06:49,890 --> 02:06:54,390 the silent service, this submarine can carry 154 Tomahawk 2204 02:06:54,390 --> 02:06:58,710 cruise missiles. That is a major threat to any adversary. Yeah, 2205 02:06:58,740 --> 02:07:02,250 Adam Curry: no, that makes sense. Good. Good idea. Let's do 2206 02:07:02,250 --> 02:07:04,830 that. Let's send something dangerous another aircraft 2207 02:07:04,830 --> 02:07:08,910 carrier. Let's go Let's go. This is great. This is fantastic that 2208 02:07:08,940 --> 02:07:10,710 John C Dvorak: I thought Eisenhower's position there 2209 02:07:10,710 --> 02:07:12,540 already I don't know that this is new. 2210 02:07:12,570 --> 02:07:15,510 Adam Curry: Doesn't matter if these people than media, the 2211 02:07:15,510 --> 02:07:20,760 military industrial complex of 99% of all of our political 2212 02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:24,090 representatives, not leaders representatives are all war 2213 02:07:24,090 --> 02:07:28,800 mongers. The cheerleader in three seals 2214 02:07:28,860 --> 02:07:30,990 John C Dvorak: meanwhile, of course they don't mention this. 2215 02:07:31,050 --> 02:07:33,720 This I don't know how old that report is because Blink is not 2216 02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:35,490 there anymore. He's on the move. 2217 02:07:35,580 --> 02:07:37,740 Adam Curry: He's on the move. Hold on a second. Where's he? 2218 02:07:37,860 --> 02:07:38,760 Where's he off to 2219 02:07:38,790 --> 02:07:41,790 Unknown: Foley crisis visit to the Middle East Secretary of 2220 02:07:41,790 --> 02:07:44,760 State Antony Blinken is now shifting the focus of his 2221 02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:47,910 intense diplomacy efforts from the Middle East now to the Indo 2222 02:07:47,910 --> 02:07:50,640 Pacific for yesterday and today's meeting with 2223 02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:54,450 counterparts from the g7 democracies in Japan. We're in 2224 02:07:54,450 --> 02:07:57,270 addition to the ongoing wars in the Middle East and of course in 2225 02:07:57,270 --> 02:08:01,770 Ukraine, topics such as China's economic origin towards Asian 2226 02:08:01,770 --> 02:08:05,430 countries are also at the top of their agenda. Here's what 2227 02:08:05,430 --> 02:08:08,310 Secretary Blinken told his Japanese counterparts and during 2228 02:08:08,340 --> 02:08:09,780 a meeting today watch 2229 02:08:10,500 --> 02:08:14,130 during support for Ukraine, the work that we're doing together 2230 02:08:14,130 --> 02:08:19,050 to combat economic coercion, trilateral cooperation with the 2231 02:08:19,050 --> 02:08:21,630 Republic of Korea, all of these are vital. 2232 02:08:22,110 --> 02:08:25,440 Lincoln's also visiting South Korea on both Wednesday and 2233 02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:28,140 Thursday and today I asked the State Department during its 2234 02:08:28,140 --> 02:08:31,740 briefing about China's economic coercion specifically towards 2235 02:08:31,740 --> 02:08:35,010 South Korea, in which ongoing efforts are being done by the 2236 02:08:35,010 --> 02:08:38,310 Chinese Embassy in South Korea to try to block an American 2237 02:08:38,310 --> 02:08:42,480 performing arts company Shen Yun from performing and South Korea. 2238 02:08:42,690 --> 02:08:45,480 The classical Chinese dance show, which is widely popular 2239 02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:49,380 around the world is banned in China due to his portrayal of 2240 02:08:49,380 --> 02:08:52,920 some human rights persecutions in mainland China. And the State 2241 02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:55,650 Department told me that they continue to be concerned about 2242 02:08:55,650 --> 02:08:59,580 such practices by Beijing to use this economic leverage to try to 2243 02:08:59,580 --> 02:09:01,260 pressure our democratic allies. 2244 02:09:01,980 --> 02:09:03,090 Adam Curry: Stupidity. 2245 02:09:03,900 --> 02:09:05,820 John C Dvorak: This brings me to the question Why did you just 2246 02:09:05,820 --> 02:09:07,500 come to San Francisco next week? 2247 02:09:07,530 --> 02:09:09,300 Adam Curry: Yeah, just hang out with him here. 2248 02:09:10,260 --> 02:09:13,290 John C Dvorak: And when he went to China, gee wouldn't meet with 2249 02:09:13,290 --> 02:09:13,590 him. 2250 02:09:13,620 --> 02:09:16,290 Adam Curry: It's almost as stupid as Buttigieg going to 2251 02:09:16,290 --> 02:09:19,350 meet with Zelensky. What's that about? 2252 02:09:20,340 --> 02:09:22,380 John C Dvorak: That's pretty stupid. Let's listen to part two 2253 02:09:22,380 --> 02:09:25,260 of this new we can talk about how stupid budaj edge is. 2254 02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:27,630 Unknown: Meanwhile, President Biden is set to meet with 2255 02:09:27,630 --> 02:09:31,320 China's shooting ping next week during the APEC summit in San 2256 02:09:31,320 --> 02:09:34,620 Francisco, of course remains to be seen how issues such as human 2257 02:09:34,620 --> 02:09:37,890 rights abuses by China as well as China's increasingly 2258 02:09:37,890 --> 02:09:41,280 aggressive actions toward other countries, including espionage 2259 02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:43,560 activities here in the US will be discussed. 2260 02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:49,530 Adam Curry: Okay, I need to talk about something else because 2261 02:09:49,530 --> 02:09:56,370 this this is just I think everyone's tired of it. No, no, 2262 02:09:56,400 --> 02:09:59,460 they're not tired of it because everyone's ALL Whoa, I'm old. 2263 02:09:59,460 --> 02:10:00,780 I'm all jacked. But you're 2264 02:10:02,190 --> 02:10:05,190 John C Dvorak: right. Yes. Let people hate us for this show 2265 02:10:05,190 --> 02:10:07,500 that probably. Yeah, exactly. 2266 02:10:08,550 --> 02:10:11,880 Adam Curry: Well, then let me discuss something else because 2267 02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:17,550 the very people in universities, which Alan Dershowitz doesn't 2268 02:10:17,550 --> 02:10:23,160 understand, who are now protesting Israel for the waving 2269 02:10:23,190 --> 02:10:27,270 Palestinian flags, they must have forgotten about black lives 2270 02:10:27,270 --> 02:10:32,070 matter. I thought Black Lives mattered. Doesn't matter 2271 02:10:32,070 --> 02:10:35,250 anymore. Certainly not the black lives in Chicago. 2272 02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:41,160 Unknown: This was a meeting of the city council rules 2273 02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:44,070 committee, which was about to take up debate over a proposal 2274 02:10:44,070 --> 02:10:47,520 to let Chicagoans decide whether Chicago should remain a 2275 02:10:47,520 --> 02:10:50,700 sanctuary city welcoming to migrants by putting that 2276 02:10:50,700 --> 02:10:54,210 question onto a referendum on next spring's election ballot. 2277 02:10:54,510 --> 02:10:57,300 But the meeting devolved into chaos after hundreds of 2278 02:10:57,300 --> 02:11:00,030 protesters, mostly African Americans packed the City 2279 02:11:00,030 --> 02:11:03,030 Council gallery and began shouting down the aldermen. 2280 02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:06,030 They're angry after a special city council meeting on the 2281 02:11:06,030 --> 02:11:09,390 migrant question was canceled last week when Mayor Brandon 2282 02:11:09,390 --> 02:11:12,960 Johnson's floor leader Alderman Carlos Ramirez Rosa tried to 2283 02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:15,900 prevent a quorum by discouraging aldermen from entering the 2284 02:11:15,900 --> 02:11:18,720 chamber including a confrontation with longtime 2285 02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:22,380 Alderwoman Emma Mitch, all after about a half hour Today's 2286 02:11:22,380 --> 02:11:26,010 meeting was suspended and the crowd cleared, but not before 2287 02:11:26,010 --> 02:11:29,670 some aldermen blame the mayor and Sanctuary City Supporters of 2288 02:11:29,670 --> 02:11:33,840 causing the chaos spike trying to block the referendum. Do you 2289 02:11:34,020 --> 02:11:37,590 as a resident city Chicago believe that we should remain a 2290 02:11:37,590 --> 02:11:40,170 sanctuary city? It's a simple question. 2291 02:11:45,030 --> 02:11:48,990 That's why you've seen the chaos in this city. Because you're 2292 02:11:48,990 --> 02:11:53,190 trying to silence a voice of certain people that just want to 2293 02:11:53,190 --> 02:11:54,360 be heard. Debate 2294 02:11:54,360 --> 02:11:57,450 on the sanctuary city referendum will continue on Thursday when 2295 02:11:57,450 --> 02:12:00,120 the Rules Committee continues the meeting that was suspended 2296 02:12:00,120 --> 02:12:04,050 today. No word yet on whether any special rules or security 2297 02:12:04,050 --> 02:12:06,300 will be in place for that meeting, though after the 2298 02:12:06,300 --> 02:12:09,780 gallery was clear today. The regular city council meeting was 2299 02:12:09,780 --> 02:12:12,180 held as scheduled and was peaceful. 2300 02:12:13,380 --> 02:12:16,080 Adam Curry: Yeah, so all the migrants being dropped off in 2301 02:12:16,950 --> 02:12:19,860 predominantly black neighborhoods in Chicago. Yeah. 2302 02:12:20,760 --> 02:12:21,630 That's beautiful thing, 2303 02:12:22,140 --> 02:12:24,480 John C Dvorak: by the way, says trying to silence certain people 2304 02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:27,150 when they say trying to Silent blacks of Chicago. Yeah, 2305 02:12:27,150 --> 02:12:30,510 Adam Curry: why would they do that? Makes no sense. Can't be 2306 02:12:30,510 --> 02:12:34,830 doing that. This is a great time actually. When when the news 2307 02:12:34,830 --> 02:12:39,450 media is just all about Israel and Hamas, Hamas, Israel, that's 2308 02:12:39,450 --> 02:12:43,350 all that they can talk about. It's a great time to have all 2309 02:12:43,350 --> 02:12:46,350 kinds of other stuff happen. Like this little ditty 2310 02:12:46,380 --> 02:12:48,930 Unknown: federal investigators say they busted a network of 2311 02:12:48,930 --> 02:12:52,860 brothels in Massachusetts and Virginia that catered to well 2312 02:12:52,860 --> 02:12:56,790 connected clients, including elected officials and military 2313 02:12:56,790 --> 02:12:59,730 officers have already saved potentially hundreds of people 2314 02:12:59,730 --> 02:13:03,510 including doctors, lawyers and pharmaceutical executives paid 2315 02:13:03,510 --> 02:13:09,450 up to $600 an hour in cash for sex primarily with Asian three 2316 02:13:09,450 --> 02:13:13,260 people accused of operating the ring are in custody primarily 2317 02:13:13,260 --> 02:13:19,080 John C Dvorak: with women. Gotcha. Sick 600 merrily but not 2318 02:13:19,080 --> 02:13:22,950 exclusively with women these pharma exec GN know what I'm 2319 02:13:22,950 --> 02:13:23,610 saying. 2320 02:13:24,030 --> 02:13:28,200 Adam Curry: And politicians. Of course, politicians are 2321 02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:31,740 John C Dvorak: notorious for pouring around as that's nothing 2322 02:13:31,740 --> 02:13:32,190 new. 2323 02:13:32,220 --> 02:13:35,280 Adam Curry: That's that's how they get blackmailed and 2324 02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:41,790 captured. And then this helped me remember when JP Morgan Chase 2325 02:13:41,790 --> 02:13:45,750 got me up. They they, they basically paid off I think was 2326 02:13:45,750 --> 02:13:54,570 200 victims of Jeffrey Epstein. So, so they had been, I don't 2327 02:13:54,570 --> 02:14:00,570 remember that. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yes. So that Jamie diamond 2328 02:14:00,570 --> 02:14:01,890 didn't have to go testify. 2329 02:14:02,220 --> 02:14:04,770 John C Dvorak: Jamie diamond came out of it. Yeah, 2330 02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:07,470 Adam Curry: they made they made a deal. They also they spent a 2331 02:14:07,470 --> 02:14:14,190 billion a billion dollars on lawyers wilmerhale. And so 2332 02:14:14,340 --> 02:14:17,100 Wilma, I think it will let me say it was it must have been 2333 02:14:17,190 --> 02:14:22,770 over 200 victims, because they want to, you know, set up a 2334 02:14:22,770 --> 02:14:27,030 class action suit against Jamie diamond and of course, Chase 2335 02:14:27,030 --> 02:14:34,680 Bank JP Morgan Chase. Now 17 attorney generals have said, you 2336 02:14:34,680 --> 02:14:37,770 know, it doesn't matter that you bought them off. We can we can 2337 02:14:37,770 --> 02:14:42,060 still take you to court over this. And it looks like this 2338 02:14:42,060 --> 02:14:46,770 gonna happen. They're not getting out of this. Yeah. Yeah. 2339 02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:47,490 Well, we'll 2340 02:14:47,490 --> 02:14:48,300 Unknown: see. We'll see. 2341 02:14:49,920 --> 02:14:54,180 Adam Curry: We'll see. Okay, good point. And then we have in 2342 02:14:54,180 --> 02:14:59,760 total eight, four of which in the last 24 hours, Los Angeles 2343 02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:03,600 show Arizona Sheriff employees have killed themselves. 2344 02:15:04,290 --> 02:15:06,870 John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is this is a weird story. 2345 02:15:08,610 --> 02:15:11,130 Adam Curry: For Los Angeles Sheriff's employees die by 2346 02:15:11,130 --> 02:15:15,000 suicide within 24 hours, another four Sheriff's Department 2347 02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:22,740 employees have died by suicide this year. This is weird. See, 2348 02:15:22,740 --> 02:15:25,200 they're they're either being murdered, murdered is what I'm 2349 02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:26,130 thinking, which is what 2350 02:15:26,130 --> 02:15:31,530 John C Dvorak: I would think. Yeah. Because the suicide mean, 2351 02:15:31,530 --> 02:15:34,650 you know, I, maybe they did something that they're worried 2352 02:15:34,650 --> 02:15:38,160 about and is a part of a scheme and they don't want to go to 2353 02:15:38,160 --> 02:15:41,730 court and end up in jail where they get brutalized. I mean, 2354 02:15:41,730 --> 02:15:46,710 that's, you know, but usually you'd give it a college try. 2355 02:15:47,790 --> 02:15:51,000 Seems to me, I don't know something's missing with this 2356 02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:52,860 story is is unusual. 2357 02:15:52,860 --> 02:15:55,050 Adam Curry: Most most. I know cops that have left. They've 2358 02:15:55,050 --> 02:15:57,120 just left law enforcement. Yeah, but 2359 02:15:57,120 --> 02:15:58,740 John C Dvorak: that's a different dose because it's not 2360 02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:01,950 rewarding to them anymore, not because they didn't shoot 2361 02:16:01,950 --> 02:16:03,060 themselves since 2362 02:16:03,060 --> 02:16:05,670 Adam Curry: this is. Since the pandemic many and law 2363 02:16:05,670 --> 02:16:07,830 enforcement say police departments have been suffering 2364 02:16:07,830 --> 02:16:11,880 from flagging morale. Thanks to a wave of anti police sentiment 2365 02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:12,210 that peak 2366 02:16:12,210 --> 02:16:14,310 John C Dvorak: with the killed police lives matter. You can 2367 02:16:14,310 --> 02:16:15,780 take them with as many 2368 02:16:15,780 --> 02:16:18,000 Adam Curry: police departments have seen a mass exodus of 2369 02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:20,430 officers over the last several years along with difficulty 2370 02:16:20,430 --> 02:16:22,230 hiring new officers, but that doesn't mean that they're 2371 02:16:22,230 --> 02:16:28,200 killing themselves. Yeah, no. Now it's like no. So and it's 2372 02:16:28,200 --> 02:16:33,540 Los Angeles. So which is just questionable. It's questionable. 2373 02:16:33,540 --> 02:16:33,660 I 2374 02:16:33,660 --> 02:16:36,300 John C Dvorak: don't know. LA is like they don't like nexus of 2375 02:16:36,300 --> 02:16:37,680 corruption in California. 2376 02:16:37,710 --> 02:16:40,350 Adam Curry: Yeah. And then, you know, I don't have any clips or 2377 02:16:40,350 --> 02:16:45,540 anything but the news media seems more obsessed with how the 2378 02:16:45,540 --> 02:16:52,350 how the Nashville trend shooters manifesto got out than the 2379 02:16:52,380 --> 02:16:58,500 actual manifesto itself. That's that's very strange. Oh, yeah, 2380 02:16:58,530 --> 02:16:59,640 bro. They sold it. 2381 02:16:59,669 --> 02:17:02,819 John C Dvorak: They ended up in contact with the Nashville 2382 02:17:02,819 --> 02:17:03,599 police. Hi. 2383 02:17:03,630 --> 02:17:05,670 Adam Curry: Yeah. What did you hear? Well, he 2384 02:17:05,669 --> 02:17:08,549 John C Dvorak: says out the thing that got out is real. 2385 02:17:08,579 --> 02:17:10,769 That's what he wants. I'm sure it is. 2386 02:17:10,770 --> 02:17:12,930 Adam Curry: And we heard it was something like that. It was 2387 02:17:12,930 --> 02:17:17,790 multiple notebooks. Yeah, I'm sure it's real. But the ones 2388 02:17:18,030 --> 02:17:18,120 that 2389 02:17:18,120 --> 02:17:20,880 John C Dvorak: got out? No, it does. It doesn't seem to be at 2390 02:17:20,880 --> 02:17:22,650 his nobody seems to know yet. 2391 02:17:24,540 --> 02:17:28,710 Adam Curry: And but who cares? How about what's in it? What's 2392 02:17:28,710 --> 02:17:30,570 in it is what's what's crazy. 2393 02:17:33,180 --> 02:17:35,400 John C Dvorak: Okay, well, you can kind of see that what's in 2394 02:17:35,400 --> 02:17:41,040 it has more to do is didn't fit the narrative. They're trying to 2395 02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:41,700 push. 2396 02:17:41,880 --> 02:17:45,810 Adam Curry: No kidding. Speaking of narratives, it is a very 2397 02:17:45,810 --> 02:17:52,170 important time. Right now we have a UN meeting about the 2398 02:17:52,770 --> 02:17:56,400 polls. And I don't mean from Poland, but the north and south 2399 02:17:56,400 --> 02:18:00,600 pole. Because as you know, the ice is melting faster than any 2400 02:18:00,600 --> 02:18:04,110 time ever before. We're all going places, and I always will. 2401 02:18:04,380 --> 02:18:12,840 And we have cop 29 coming up in the number one gas nation. I 2402 02:18:12,840 --> 02:18:16,710 love that. And so right on cue, we need to promote this. We have 2403 02:18:16,710 --> 02:18:22,020 the Copernicus climate change service, which is a part of the 2404 02:18:22,020 --> 02:18:26,580 EU, the European Space Agency, and well, what do you think 2405 02:18:26,580 --> 02:18:28,860 their report is the head of emergency briefing? What do you 2406 02:18:28,860 --> 02:18:29,940 think they had to say? 2407 02:18:32,010 --> 02:18:34,500 John C Dvorak: Everything's getting worse. hottest year on 2408 02:18:34,500 --> 02:18:37,290 record. Exactly. Yeah, hottest is always the hardest. Yeah. 2409 02:18:37,830 --> 02:18:39,990 Unknown: Copernicus climate change Service said they were 2410 02:18:39,990 --> 02:18:44,520 the largest wildfires recorded on European soil in years. Now 2411 02:18:44,550 --> 02:18:47,880 the organization is warning of something even worse, we 2412 02:18:48,029 --> 02:18:52,259 know with almost complete certainty that 2023 is the 2413 02:18:52,259 --> 02:18:56,519 warmest year on record. And now besides the previous warmest 2414 02:18:56,519 --> 02:19:00,719 year by 0.1 degrees Celsius and the previous warmest year was 2415 02:19:00,719 --> 02:19:01,769 2016. 2416 02:19:03,090 --> 02:19:06,180 Copernicus, which is part of the European Space Agency says 2417 02:19:06,210 --> 02:19:11,370 temperatures in October smashed record 0.85 degrees above the 2418 02:19:11,370 --> 02:19:14,640 long term average for the month. The huge rise follows four 2419 02:19:14,640 --> 02:19:19,380 months of global temperature records being obliterated amid 2420 02:19:19,380 --> 02:19:22,440 extreme events like Storm Daniel, which killed more than 2421 02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:24,840 11,000 people in Libya. Oops, 2422 02:19:24,929 --> 02:19:27,419 Adam Curry: oop, hold on a second. It wasn't the storm 2423 02:19:27,419 --> 02:19:32,969 Daniel that killed 11,000 people. It was the crappy dams 2424 02:19:33,389 --> 02:19:36,779 that people went to jail over. But okay, 2425 02:19:36,810 --> 02:19:39,330 John C Dvorak: let's just have been reported as lousy for 2426 02:19:39,330 --> 02:19:40,200 years. Let's 2427 02:19:40,200 --> 02:19:42,780 Adam Curry: just call it storm Daniel Daniel, 2428 02:19:42,960 --> 02:19:46,080 Unknown: which killed more than 11 Lousy people in Libya. The 2429 02:19:46,320 --> 02:19:46,980 reality 2430 02:19:46,980 --> 02:19:50,280 is that the warmer our planet is, the more extreme events we 2431 02:19:50,280 --> 02:19:53,910 will have. And so that will not only get more extreme events, 2432 02:19:53,910 --> 02:19:55,710 but there'll be more intense as well. 2433 02:19:55,770 --> 02:19:58,020 Adam Curry: I have a question about this. So not only will get 2434 02:19:58,020 --> 02:20:01,890 more extreme events, all subjective words. What does it 2435 02:20:01,890 --> 02:20:04,950 mean that they will get? What is what is the term she use on a 2436 02:20:04,950 --> 02:20:05,790 second? And 2437 02:20:05,820 --> 02:20:08,460 Unknown: so they will not only get more extreme events, but 2438 02:20:08,460 --> 02:20:10,020 they'll be more intense as well 2439 02:20:10,050 --> 02:20:12,540 Adam Curry: in terms of is there an intensity scale of the 2440 02:20:12,540 --> 02:20:15,000 storms? How do they measure in Arizona 2441 02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:15,930 John C Dvorak: hurricanes one 2442 02:20:15,930 --> 02:20:17,430 Adam Curry: through five oh intense. 2443 02:20:17,730 --> 02:20:19,920 Unknown: A report released Wednesday by the United Nations 2444 02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:22,800 has warned things could yet get worse worse, researchers at the 2445 02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:26,610 UN said global fossil fuel production in 2030 is set to be 2446 02:20:26,610 --> 02:20:30,360 more than doubled the levels deemed concil no global climate. 2447 02:20:31,230 --> 02:20:36,300 Those were set under the 2015 Paris Climate Agreement. Warning 2448 02:20:36,300 --> 02:20:39,450 comes as global experts met in Paris for the one planet polar 2449 02:20:39,450 --> 02:20:42,780 summit, the first international meeting dedicated to glaciers 2450 02:20:42,780 --> 02:20:46,920 and poles. Attention, however, is focused squarely on the 2451 02:20:46,950 --> 02:20:51,180 upcoming cop summit at the end of November in the UAE. Worrying 2452 02:20:51,180 --> 02:20:53,910 growth in the use of fossil fuels, failing renewable 2453 02:20:53,910 --> 02:20:57,360 projects for wind farms in places like the UK and US. And 2454 02:20:57,360 --> 02:21:00,660 the growing abandonment of climate pledges have all cast 2455 02:21:00,660 --> 02:21:04,260 shadows over the meeting. The EU's climate Commissioner what 2456 02:21:04,290 --> 02:21:08,970 Hoekstra warned last month, if we don't do enough, the plant 2457 02:21:08,970 --> 02:21:13,020 will be boiling. According to Europe's climate scientists, it 2458 02:21:13,020 --> 02:21:14,310 already is. That's 2459 02:21:14,310 --> 02:21:18,630 Adam Curry: boiling. That's the Dutch guy. Vodka. If we don't do 2460 02:21:18,630 --> 02:21:22,920 enough, develop, there'll be boiling. And boiling, you will 2461 02:21:22,920 --> 02:21:26,970 be like frog in a boiling pot. You people is sheep man, 2462 02:21:26,970 --> 02:21:29,490 John C Dvorak: they're gonna go to the UAE, which is a 2463 02:21:29,610 --> 02:21:35,790 incredibly warm area. Yes, yes. And you're gonna blame that? Of 2464 02:21:35,790 --> 02:21:39,360 course, it's been that way forever. But you're gonna blame 2465 02:21:39,360 --> 02:21:41,550 it on climate change. So hot here as 2466 02:21:41,550 --> 02:21:45,030 Adam Curry: Yes, yes, of course, of course. And that's the two 2467 02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:48,300 year anniversary time once again, to remind ourselves of 2468 02:21:48,300 --> 02:21:52,050 that bastion of truth, the Ice Age farmer who always speaks the 2469 02:21:52,050 --> 02:21:55,830 truth to check in with his prognostication from two years 2470 02:21:55,830 --> 02:22:03,330 ago. Let's go back to that show. And I'll wrap it up with the 2471 02:22:03,330 --> 02:22:06,870 latest report from the Ice Age farmer, again, showing you what 2472 02:22:06,870 --> 02:22:09,000 the what the idea is, 2473 02:22:09,060 --> 02:22:12,270 Unknown: American farmers are having their land confiscated 2474 02:22:12,360 --> 02:22:15,240 through the use of eminent domain, they will not be allowed 2475 02:22:15,240 --> 02:22:18,690 to farm they're going forward. In order to make room for a 2476 02:22:18,690 --> 02:22:23,670 massive carbon capture and sequestration pipeline. These 2477 02:22:23,670 --> 02:22:27,840 pipelines there are two such projects run 1000s of miles 2478 02:22:27,900 --> 02:22:30,990 through the very heart of the Corn Belt, the nation's most 2479 02:22:30,990 --> 02:22:36,300 productive farmland. There are letters going out now, like the 2480 02:22:36,300 --> 02:22:41,970 one on your screen, by the 1000s announcing to surprise farmers 2481 02:22:42,210 --> 02:22:46,380 that we will just be taking your land land that you have owned 2482 02:22:46,380 --> 02:22:49,770 and your family and worked in some cases for generations now. 2483 02:22:50,700 --> 02:22:53,220 These announcements are particularly salient in light of 2484 02:22:53,220 --> 02:22:57,300 the fact that even now there are warnings going out from major 2485 02:22:57,660 --> 02:23:02,310 fertilizer CEOs saying we're gonna have a food crisis next 2486 02:23:02,310 --> 02:23:05,250 year there's not going to be enough food to eat and indeed 2487 02:23:05,280 --> 02:23:09,420 this is quote a life or death issue. Not 2488 02:23:09,690 --> 02:23:10,710 Adam Curry: don't listen to me 2489 02:23:12,900 --> 02:23:16,860 John C Dvorak: that guy now I want you to put that clip. Can 2490 02:23:16,860 --> 02:23:19,350 you mark it with something because I want to play it again 2491 02:23:19,410 --> 02:23:22,380 one year from now when we're having these food shortages. 2492 02:23:22,410 --> 02:23:22,860 Okay. 2493 02:23:26,160 --> 02:23:28,680 Adam Curry: On the second anniversary have we seen food 2494 02:23:28,680 --> 02:23:31,440 shortages at a moment in time yet John have we seen the food 2495 02:23:31,440 --> 02:23:32,130 shortages 2496 02:23:34,170 --> 02:23:36,570 John C Dvorak: depends on who you are and where you live in 2497 02:23:36,570 --> 02:23:36,660 the 2498 02:23:36,660 --> 02:23:37,530 Adam Curry: United States. 2499 02:23:38,430 --> 02:23:39,510 John C Dvorak: I don't think so. 2500 02:23:39,810 --> 02:23:46,110 Adam Curry: I don't think now it's um it's unaffordable. I'll 2501 02:23:46,110 --> 02:23:49,050 give him that but I don't think that that is because of the 2502 02:23:49,050 --> 02:23:52,470 carbon sequestration pilot they never ran that pipe that of 2503 02:23:52,470 --> 02:23:55,740 course not no they didn't I didn't that's why they taught 2504 02:23:56,250 --> 02:24:00,420 not to trust your no agenda show and with that, I'd like to thank 2505 02:24:00,420 --> 02:24:02,730 you for your courage say in the morning to you the man who put 2506 02:24:02,730 --> 02:24:05,850 the seeds in the Copernicus climate change service say hello 2507 02:24:05,850 --> 02:24:09,030 to my friend on the other end the one and only Mr. John 2508 02:24:13,980 --> 02:24:17,700 John C Dvorak: new Mr. Positive in the morning all ships and sea 2509 02:24:17,700 --> 02:24:21,420 boots on the ground feeding their sons in the water and all 2510 02:24:21,420 --> 02:24:22,860 the games and nights out. 2511 02:24:31,620 --> 02:24:35,670 Adam Curry: Early earlier we had 19 147 Trolls it has now dropped 2512 02:24:35,670 --> 02:24:41,730 off to 1738 and I checked it I did a count silent count before 2513 02:24:41,730 --> 02:24:46,530 we started the Israel Hamas clips and we lost 200 Trolls. 2514 02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:51,060 That's how it rolls. With the trolls. It's not good for 2515 02:24:51,060 --> 02:24:56,250 business. Because we're not you know all excited and blaming one 2516 02:24:56,250 --> 02:25:00,630 side or the other. We're not doing it right Hey, yeah, we're 2517 02:25:00,630 --> 02:25:03,750 John C Dvorak: not I would say that's true. We are not doing it 2518 02:25:03,750 --> 02:25:04,410 right. 2519 02:25:04,500 --> 02:25:07,410 Adam Curry: Yeah, we've we got to take a page from Dan bond 2520 02:25:07,410 --> 02:25:09,900 Gino or Megyn. Kelly, we were not doing them. 2521 02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:15,120 John C Dvorak: Any of the puro Schiff? Can't talk fast enough 2522 02:25:15,120 --> 02:25:15,720 to do him. 2523 02:25:16,290 --> 02:25:20,430 Adam Curry: No, no, absolutely not. Trolls are in the troll 2524 02:25:20,430 --> 02:25:23,940 room. And they do hang out there quite a bit. And it's 24/7 this 2525 02:25:23,940 --> 02:25:27,570 troll room because we have no agenda stream.com Which as the 2526 02:25:27,570 --> 02:25:30,450 troll room or troll room.io It's it's basically goes to the same 2527 02:25:30,450 --> 02:25:31,680 place. Ones, how 2528 02:25:31,680 --> 02:25:33,030 John C Dvorak: do you get there from the IRC, 2529 02:25:34,140 --> 02:25:38,310 Adam Curry: you go to you go to troll them.io And then it tells 2530 02:25:38,310 --> 02:25:41,400 you how you can get there from the IRC if you want to. But why 2531 02:25:41,400 --> 02:25:43,710 do that when you have a webpage, that's everything all in one 2532 02:25:43,710 --> 02:25:47,100 handy place. It's perfect. There's all kinds of shows that 2533 02:25:47,100 --> 02:25:49,530 you can listen to there. And of course, on Thursdays and 2534 02:25:49,530 --> 02:25:52,560 Sundays, we do this show live and we love doing it live 2535 02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:56,760 because we do it live. And when we do it live, you get 2536 02:25:56,760 --> 02:25:59,190 everything. You get everything you need. It's in real time. You 2537 02:25:59,190 --> 02:26:03,030 can sit there the office, lord knows what almost 2000 People 2538 02:26:03,030 --> 02:26:05,820 are doing that they don't have to work on Thursday, but they're 2539 02:26:05,820 --> 02:26:10,110 probably working from home. I don't know. They're not in their 2540 02:26:10,110 --> 02:26:11,700 WeWork offices, that's for sure. 2541 02:26:13,050 --> 02:26:14,910 Unknown: And kept him going. 2542 02:26:15,390 --> 02:26:15,930 Adam Curry: I'm sorry. 2543 02:26:16,530 --> 02:26:18,900 John C Dvorak: I think that we work. Officers still running. I 2544 02:26:18,900 --> 02:26:21,360 mean, I know that company went bankrupt. 2545 02:26:21,780 --> 02:26:24,510 Adam Curry: Yeah, but Well, bankruptcy means they can be 2546 02:26:24,510 --> 02:26:24,810 bought 2547 02:26:24,810 --> 02:26:26,490 John C Dvorak: out. Yeah, that means you can still be in 2548 02:26:26,490 --> 02:26:29,940 business. Yeah. All right. But that the cappuccino bar 2549 02:26:30,570 --> 02:26:32,610 Adam Curry: in the WeWork office, we're there with the 2550 02:26:32,610 --> 02:26:36,810 earbuds in IRC dot zero no dotnet if you really need to 2551 02:26:36,810 --> 02:26:39,840 know if you're really into the IRC thing and it was gonna it's 2552 02:26:39,840 --> 02:26:42,660 been there for 15 years so you should know it by now. I'm 2553 02:26:42,660 --> 02:26:47,940 surprised you don't I don't You can also follow us on no agenda 2554 02:26:47,940 --> 02:26:51,120 social.com I've been blocking people now now I'm turning into 2555 02:26:51,120 --> 02:26:55,080 you is horrible. I don't like myself. Most people just the 2556 02:26:55,080 --> 02:26:57,750 John C Dvorak: practical way to go it's pragmatic here but then 2557 02:26:57,750 --> 02:27:01,020 no like yourself because you hated the idea that I was doing 2558 02:27:01,020 --> 02:27:05,430 it and then now having to choose kind of do it yourself. You 2559 02:27:05,430 --> 02:27:09,780 realize you know the wisdom of it. And you you've now you hate 2560 02:27:09,780 --> 02:27:11,760 yourself because you're you're wise. 2561 02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:14,820 Adam Curry: I don't hate myself. I hate what it's I hate what 2562 02:27:14,820 --> 02:27:20,430 social media has become to me. I have a email inbox. And I have a 2563 02:27:20,430 --> 02:27:24,000 no agenda social inbox, which I look at once or twice a day. 2564 02:27:24,000 --> 02:27:26,850 Just go to my notifications. Anything good? No. Okay, done. 2565 02:27:27,510 --> 02:27:31,380 And then x same thing on x, which usually Oh, what are we 2566 02:27:31,380 --> 02:27:35,490 drinking? Oh, I have food noise. Well, 2567 02:27:35,490 --> 02:27:39,810 John C Dvorak: this is as a matter of fact. If I can find 2568 02:27:39,810 --> 02:27:46,560 the label, DJI DJI dual bow. Oh, herbal tea. Yeah, it's the 2569 02:27:46,560 --> 02:27:52,350 origin of a Chinese herbal tea since the Tang Dynasty it's 2570 02:27:52,350 --> 02:27:55,830 herbal tea made from Prime herbal ingredients. It's 2571 02:27:55,830 --> 02:27:57,960 actually made in Malaysia and it's carbon 2572 02:27:57,960 --> 02:28:00,510 Adam Curry: I have yet to try it is it carbonated because I heard 2573 02:28:00,510 --> 02:28:00,570 it 2574 02:28:02,220 --> 02:28:04,800 John C Dvorak: was not as carbonated as I like no 2575 02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:08,610 Adam Curry: because it's it's from the during the Qing Dynasty 2576 02:28:08,610 --> 02:28:10,590 or whatever the means and it carbonated 2577 02:28:10,590 --> 02:28:14,490 John C Dvorak: at all and it's too sweet. Why did it go? That's 2578 02:28:14,490 --> 02:28:17,400 probably for mental pressure, the temperature and you 2579 02:28:17,400 --> 02:28:17,640 shouldn't 2580 02:28:17,640 --> 02:28:19,800 Adam Curry: be drinking that you might be my poison you I 2581 02:28:19,800 --> 02:28:23,640 wouldn't drink this. Food noise that's what it is. 2582 02:28:23,640 --> 02:28:25,680 John C Dvorak: Just if I grow a second head, I'll let you know. 2583 02:28:25,710 --> 02:28:26,370 Okay, thank 2584 02:28:26,370 --> 02:28:29,670 Adam Curry: you know, this social media has just become 2585 02:28:29,700 --> 02:28:34,170 unused. It's bad for my health. Because I see people like hey, 2586 02:28:34,950 --> 02:28:39,900 my get riled up over it. Then I want to reply, um, no, no, no, 2587 02:28:39,900 --> 02:28:42,660 no. So I just walk away. It's no good. None of us any good. 2588 02:28:43,350 --> 02:28:45,510 John C Dvorak: Just listen, she's got to do it blocking 2589 02:28:45,510 --> 02:28:46,020 people. 2590 02:28:47,940 --> 02:28:50,310 Adam Curry: Well, because it's an inbox and I just want to have 2591 02:28:50,460 --> 02:28:55,170 a high signal to noise. I don't want the noise of people tagging 2592 02:28:55,170 --> 02:28:57,180 me in their personal disputes. 2593 02:28:58,230 --> 02:29:00,900 John C Dvorak: We had some guy quit the bid to show because of 2594 02:29:00,900 --> 02:29:01,830 it. Some 2595 02:29:01,830 --> 02:29:07,920 Adam Curry: guy. Geez, lots of guys, then gals, and and donors 2596 02:29:07,980 --> 02:29:09,390 and special interests, all 2597 02:29:09,390 --> 02:29:10,410 John C Dvorak: donors. And 2598 02:29:11,910 --> 02:29:14,580 Adam Curry: now we're just gonna stay the course will give you 2599 02:29:14,580 --> 02:29:16,890 whatever we think is necessary. But we're not going to pick 2600 02:29:16,890 --> 02:29:19,890 sides in any of this. It's not worth it. It's not worth it to 2601 02:29:19,890 --> 02:29:23,700 you either. Particularly because it's a region it's a conflict in 2602 02:29:23,700 --> 02:29:27,300 the region. It was not the worst thing in the world is bad. But 2603 02:29:27,300 --> 02:29:30,030 it's not the worst thing. It is not the most people who are 2604 02:29:30,030 --> 02:29:34,410 killed in any kind of scenario. There's a lot more going on. And 2605 02:29:34,410 --> 02:29:38,280 maybe you could just when's the last time there wasn't a happy 2606 02:29:38,280 --> 02:29:45,480 news report. The even even like a like something just a wedding. 2607 02:29:45,810 --> 02:29:48,210 John C Dvorak: But that did experiment with that constantly 2608 02:29:48,210 --> 02:29:54,060 and it ends up being on TMZ. Yeah. What are your wedding? 2609 02:29:54,060 --> 02:29:56,130 Sorry. Well, Bree Courtney had a baby. 2610 02:29:56,160 --> 02:29:59,070 Adam Curry: Well bring me I want a happy report next show Sunday. 2611 02:29:59,160 --> 02:30:01,950 Bring me at least one on mainstream happy report. 2612 02:30:02,400 --> 02:30:05,070 John C Dvorak: Okay, I'll do it. You'll find I consider that my 2613 02:30:05,070 --> 02:30:06,360 goal in life. All right, 2614 02:30:06,390 --> 02:30:09,660 Adam Curry: then not expect one every show. I don't think you 2615 02:30:09,660 --> 02:30:10,320 can do it. Yeah, I'll 2616 02:30:10,320 --> 02:30:15,600 John C Dvorak: get you one. Every so often. You know, you 2617 02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:19,020 Adam Curry: know what happy news is. naked, naked news. That's 2618 02:30:19,020 --> 02:30:19,170 how 2619 02:30:20,190 --> 02:30:21,870 John C Dvorak: naked Whatever happened to that girl. 2620 02:30:21,900 --> 02:30:23,820 Adam Curry: They're still around naked news. This 2621 02:30:24,480 --> 02:30:27,120 John C Dvorak: doesn't get more publicity. Gee, 2622 02:30:27,150 --> 02:30:29,190 Adam Curry: I'm gonna see naked news.com Let me see if they 2623 02:30:29,190 --> 02:30:34,290 still exist. Yes, welcome to naked news. Oh, they're still 2624 02:30:34,590 --> 02:30:36,990 John C Dvorak: Oh, here we go, same woman or is somebody 2625 02:30:36,990 --> 02:30:37,650 NetSuite? 2626 02:30:38,190 --> 02:30:39,090 Unknown: Oh, they got a whole bunch of 2627 02:30:40,830 --> 02:30:43,350 things we like we're looking for your feedback. 2628 02:30:47,220 --> 02:30:50,610 Adam Curry: They're all sitting around like the view naked. Meet 2629 02:30:50,610 --> 02:30:55,950 the anchors. There you go. Okay, happy news does exist. There you 2630 02:30:55,950 --> 02:31:02,310 go. We're value for value. We don't have any commercials. But 2631 02:31:02,310 --> 02:31:05,580 that would only depress us even more. Although we're open. We're 2632 02:31:05,580 --> 02:31:09,780 open to pharmaceutical ads, if it's only on podcast, because 2633 02:31:09,780 --> 02:31:12,420 we'd be the masters of it. Which first of all, we want to have 2634 02:31:12,420 --> 02:31:15,780 meetings with you. We want to talk about your branding. I want 2635 02:31:15,780 --> 02:31:18,150 to talk about the names you choose because you're really 2636 02:31:18,150 --> 02:31:22,170 you're messing it up people. There's a new mic at the 2637 02:31:22,170 --> 02:31:24,540 Cleveland Clinic. It's not the same as the Mayo Clinic, 2638 02:31:24,720 --> 02:31:27,360 John C Dvorak: the Cleveland I'm looking at his naked news page. 2639 02:31:27,360 --> 02:31:30,390 And in some of these girls, I doubt these are their real 2640 02:31:30,390 --> 02:31:34,710 names. Is there really a thing somebody named Madison bones? I 2641 02:31:34,710 --> 02:31:38,670 hope so. Veronica Fox x x eight? No, she's 2642 02:31:38,670 --> 02:31:41,820 Adam Curry: known Veronica fat Fox. She says she was a Veronica 2643 02:31:41,820 --> 02:31:42,270 Fox. 2644 02:31:42,270 --> 02:31:43,560 John C Dvorak: And here she is. 2645 02:31:44,400 --> 02:31:48,120 Adam Curry: What was the bones lady was her name? Madison 2646 02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:51,300 John C Dvorak: bones. Maybe it's been I think his bones like 2647 02:31:51,300 --> 02:31:56,010 Adam Curry: bones better. There's a new disorder that the 2648 02:31:56,010 --> 02:31:58,860 Cleveland Clinic is identifying, which I think is important for 2649 02:31:58,860 --> 02:32:01,110 everybody to know. Because since we'll be going all pharma all 2650 02:32:01,110 --> 02:32:11,700 the time. RSD RSD Nora Z RSD AR Romeo Sierra Delta RSD it's our 2651 02:32:11,700 --> 02:32:17,010 as D that's called rejection sensitive dysphoria. What does 2652 02:32:17,010 --> 02:32:20,070 that mean? It's when you experience severe emotional 2653 02:32:20,070 --> 02:32:25,080 pain. Because of a failure or feeling rejected. This content 2654 02:32:25,080 --> 02:32:30,360 this condition is linked to ADHD and experts suspects it happens 2655 02:32:30,450 --> 02:32:35,520 due to differences in brain structure. The host differences 2656 02:32:35,520 --> 02:32:40,440 mean your brain can't regulate rejection related emotions and 2657 02:32:40,440 --> 02:32:45,330 behaviors making them much more intense. Can you believe the 2658 02:32:45,330 --> 02:32:49,980 goal of these people? Rejection is a part of life believe it 2659 02:32:49,980 --> 02:32:51,780 rejection is a part of life. 2660 02:32:52,890 --> 02:32:55,380 John C Dvorak: It's like phone leanness if you have phone 2661 02:32:55,380 --> 02:32:58,620 Adam Curry: leanness and have show mix coming up, so we're 2662 02:32:58,620 --> 02:33:01,440 value for value, which means of course, we don't take 2663 02:33:01,440 --> 02:33:04,410 pharmaceutical as no creepy corporate money, no advertising 2664 02:33:04,410 --> 02:33:08,730 at all. We'd also don't force you into subscribing and, and 2665 02:33:08,730 --> 02:33:11,910 doing things. Oh, you don't subscribe special episodes. 2666 02:33:11,910 --> 02:33:17,790 Yeah. Oh, premium content. You join our Patreon? No, none of 2667 02:33:17,790 --> 02:33:22,020 that. We give the show to you twice a week, and do with it 2668 02:33:22,020 --> 02:33:26,730 what you want. If it brings you joy, if it brings you value, 2669 02:33:26,760 --> 02:33:30,240 then consider sending us some value back. That is a very 2670 02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:35,520 simple agreement. It's not hard at all. And 97% of people maybe 2671 02:33:35,520 --> 02:33:38,730 even more never send us anything. No, they never do. No, 2672 02:33:38,730 --> 02:33:43,560 they never do. ever do. Luckily enough people do have that 3% 2673 02:33:43,560 --> 02:33:46,950 that we can make it work and it's it has been working for 16 2674 02:33:46,950 --> 02:33:50,550 years, but you should look at yourself in the mirror. How long 2675 02:33:50,550 --> 02:33:54,000 have you not not supported the show? Now there are many ways 2676 02:33:54,000 --> 02:33:57,300 you can do at time, talent treasure. So we accept all we 2677 02:33:57,300 --> 02:34:03,180 love cost cutting measures such as websites, promotions, of 2678 02:34:03,180 --> 02:34:05,730 course, we have our boots on the ground, everyone's a producer, 2679 02:34:05,940 --> 02:34:09,810 whether you support us monetary and or not. You send us some 2680 02:34:09,810 --> 02:34:13,260 information that only you know about. This is very helpful. You 2681 02:34:13,260 --> 02:34:16,290 know, we have we have a lawyer, we have a lawyer who was 2682 02:34:16,290 --> 02:34:20,310 following the Missouri versus Biden case. Did you know that 2683 02:34:20,340 --> 02:34:23,880 Bobby the opp tried to get in on that on that lawsuit and the he 2684 02:34:23,880 --> 02:34:24,810 got thrown out? 2685 02:34:26,040 --> 02:34:29,100 John C Dvorak: He got to know that Yeah, he got rejected. He 2686 02:34:29,100 --> 02:34:33,240 Adam Curry: filed a brief those standing. Hmm, I'm not sure if 2687 02:34:33,240 --> 02:34:38,400 they gave me. Well, if you wait for a second, I can tell you 2688 02:34:39,060 --> 02:34:42,990 because our lawyer who's coming to the meetup by the way, I look 2689 02:34:42,990 --> 02:34:47,880 forward to meeting him. He sent me a note here. Of course I 2690 02:34:47,880 --> 02:34:53,370 can't find it. Well, that's just one of the many notes we get. I 2691 02:34:53,370 --> 02:34:56,220 also got a note about Tom Swift in the Hardy Boys. 2692 02:34:58,560 --> 02:35:00,720 John C Dvorak: I didn't know what it is say Well, I 2693 02:35:00,720 --> 02:35:05,580 Adam Curry: did not know that Tom Swift, the Hardy Boys, and 2694 02:35:05,580 --> 02:35:11,310 more, were all published by the Stratemeyer Syndicate. And the 2695 02:35:11,310 --> 02:35:15,240 Stratemeyer Syndicate was this guy Stratemeyer who just started 2696 02:35:15,240 --> 02:35:18,690 publishing all these books and he used so he said Victor 2697 02:35:18,690 --> 02:35:20,820 Appleton is the guy that wrote Tom Swift, but they were 2698 02:35:20,820 --> 02:35:26,910 multiple writers. He was really smart. So there was no one 2699 02:35:26,940 --> 02:35:29,640 author of The Hardy Boys, Tom Swift or any of this other 2700 02:35:29,640 --> 02:35:33,060 stuff. But I didn't know that. cartoonists 2701 02:35:33,060 --> 02:35:33,720 John C Dvorak: do that too. 2702 02:35:33,780 --> 02:35:35,520 Adam Curry: Let me say Yes, Scott Adams. 2703 02:35:36,270 --> 02:35:38,700 John C Dvorak: Let me see. Scott actually does his own material. 2704 02:35:38,700 --> 02:35:39,450 Nancy Drew 2705 02:35:39,450 --> 02:35:42,900 Adam Curry: The Hardy Boys, Tom Swift, the Bobbsey Twins, the 2706 02:35:42,900 --> 02:35:50,580 rover boys and many more. And I also learned something else. Tom 2707 02:35:50,580 --> 02:35:56,490 Swift and his electronic rifle Do you know what what that was 2708 02:35:56,490 --> 02:35:57,480 used for later? 2709 02:35:58,770 --> 02:36:00,510 John C Dvorak: killing Nazis. No, it's 2710 02:36:02,130 --> 02:36:06,510 Adam Curry: no, it's where the term laser came from. A taser, 2711 02:36:06,510 --> 02:36:11,550 I'm totally a taser. Tom Swift and his electronic rifle T s er, 2712 02:36:11,550 --> 02:36:11,760 I 2713 02:36:11,760 --> 02:36:14,040 John C Dvorak: don't believe that for a minute as a right 2714 02:36:14,040 --> 02:36:18,630 here on the wiki. But that doesn't mean it must be true 2715 02:36:18,660 --> 02:36:21,120 Adam Curry: must be true. Now the Taser company it's the Taser 2716 02:36:21,120 --> 02:36:24,570 is a brand is a company name. They said that's where they got 2717 02:36:24,570 --> 02:36:29,640 it from. So I kind of believe that this is the kind of fantasy 2718 02:36:29,640 --> 02:36:33,270 that's happy news right there. If we could, you did it. If only 2719 02:36:33,270 --> 02:36:36,690 naked news ladies could present this and say no agenda show was 2720 02:36:36,690 --> 02:36:42,390 definitely much better off. So we accept all kinds of all forms 2721 02:36:42,390 --> 02:36:46,230 of, of time and talent. We love our artists. We appreciate what 2722 02:36:46,230 --> 02:36:49,530 you guys do so much. And it really is the cherry on top for 2723 02:36:49,530 --> 02:36:52,620 us after every single show. We sit down and we're doing the 2724 02:36:52,620 --> 02:36:55,560 credits and like let's choose something great for Grace about 2725 02:36:55,560 --> 02:36:59,040 art and Grace about it. And it makes us happy it really does. 2726 02:36:59,250 --> 02:37:02,400 So we want to thank Dame Kenny Ben, is this the second time in 2727 02:37:02,400 --> 02:37:05,190 a row for no? No, but 2728 02:37:05,190 --> 02:37:07,290 John C Dvorak: she knows she missed one she would have been 2729 02:37:07,290 --> 02:37:08,850 like four bagger I think 2730 02:37:10,080 --> 02:37:13,680 Adam Curry: well damn Kenny Ben brought us the artwork for 2731 02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:19,740 episode 1605 We titled that techno douche and I'm trying to 2732 02:37:19,740 --> 02:37:22,140 get to the art generated art generators and seem to be 2733 02:37:22,140 --> 02:37:24,600 responding can you get to the art generate oh here it is. Yeah 2734 02:37:24,600 --> 02:37:29,310 money generated came through a slow for some reason. Let's take 2735 02:37:29,310 --> 02:37:35,250 a look at what and this was her her incident protest box which 2736 02:37:35,250 --> 02:37:39,990 contains 33 items and out of it was little Palace Palestine flag 2737 02:37:40,260 --> 02:37:45,390 little scarf mio I got I got people sending I got the the 2738 02:37:45,390 --> 02:37:47,790 boys from Mercy Me they were texting me oh, we can't wait to 2739 02:37:47,790 --> 02:37:50,610 hear this show. That art just tells me it's going to be a 2740 02:37:50,610 --> 02:37:54,330 doozy. No, I agree. That's that's part of what the artwork 2741 02:37:54,330 --> 02:37:59,100 is supposed to do. So let's see what else we had. We had 2742 02:37:59,220 --> 02:38:05,070 nothing. Now Jim Cramer with a creepy look now the two slices 2743 02:38:05,070 --> 02:38:07,650 of bread stop war which is also Kenny Ben 2744 02:38:08,700 --> 02:38:13,620 John C Dvorak: met boasts our vert war rules was it was the 2745 02:38:13,620 --> 02:38:16,290 right idea but it just wasn't cool. Yeah, 2746 02:38:16,290 --> 02:38:18,960 Adam Curry: the book with war rules yet didn't quite. I'd like 2747 02:38:18,960 --> 02:38:23,130 to debunk bubble by Dan also named Kenny Ben, the drink 2748 02:38:23,130 --> 02:38:25,740 debunk bubble. Why don't we use that? Did we even discuss it? 2749 02:38:26,700 --> 02:38:27,030 No, 2750 02:38:27,030 --> 02:38:28,830 John C Dvorak: we didn't use it because we neither one of us. 2751 02:38:29,370 --> 02:38:33,060 You're like, what is there? And I said the only thing I like is 2752 02:38:33,060 --> 02:38:35,550 the instant protests and we just kind of decided that was the end 2753 02:38:35,550 --> 02:38:36,690 it was very short meeting. 2754 02:38:36,720 --> 02:38:38,790 Adam Curry: It was a it was a rather short meeting. Yes, 2755 02:38:38,790 --> 02:38:42,420 that's true. But I let you have that one. Also that you have the 2756 02:38:42,420 --> 02:38:45,990 title. I mean, I had titles and you said I like techno douche. 2757 02:38:46,320 --> 02:38:46,800 Okay. 2758 02:38:47,220 --> 02:38:49,890 John C Dvorak: No, no, you like techno douche to that and you 2759 02:38:49,890 --> 02:38:53,340 also liked the art it this is an agreement situation where we 2760 02:38:53,340 --> 02:38:56,850 both have to agree. It's not one guy lording it over the other 2761 02:38:56,850 --> 02:38:58,590 one like I've just tried to make it sound. 2762 02:39:00,480 --> 02:39:03,300 Adam Curry: It's usually I gotta go somewhere. I just use that. 2763 02:39:04,110 --> 02:39:08,220 Well, that does happen. Congratulation has happened. 2764 02:39:08,640 --> 02:39:11,610 Congratulations named Kenny. Ben, we really appreciate the 2765 02:39:11,610 --> 02:39:14,310 work that you do in all of our knowledge and artists. And 2766 02:39:14,340 --> 02:39:20,280 unlike real jobs that pay cash money, instead of a credit, it 2767 02:39:20,280 --> 02:39:23,880 will give you a true review will tell you but if we say nothing 2768 02:39:23,880 --> 02:39:27,420 was there, then your art was just it wasn't good enough. So 2769 02:39:27,450 --> 02:39:30,330 we're honest, we're here for you. And we love it that you're 2770 02:39:30,330 --> 02:39:34,740 there for us and we really appreciate that. Now on to our 2771 02:39:35,010 --> 02:39:38,670 the treasure portion. We have some interesting notes to get to 2772 02:39:38,670 --> 02:39:42,600 today. And I got a couple of emails people were concerned 2773 02:39:42,600 --> 02:39:45,990 about synonymous of Dogpatch and Lois LeBeau via knowing that he 2774 02:39:45,990 --> 02:39:50,520 is of the Muslim persuasion like hey man, I hope he comes back 2775 02:39:50,520 --> 02:39:55,530 after the way you guys position the war. What did we do nothing 2776 02:39:55,560 --> 02:39:59,550 nothing and in fact, there he is, sir autonomous of dog 2777 02:39:59,550 --> 02:40:02,550 pattern. ours LeBeau via right on cue Thank you could not have 2778 02:40:02,550 --> 02:40:06,480 been a better time. And he sent a longer than usual note but 2779 02:40:06,480 --> 02:40:11,580 also 2356 as his donation amount, we're always humbled by 2780 02:40:11,580 --> 02:40:15,750 you, sir autumn is a Dogpatch and Loris LeBeau. Via. So let's 2781 02:40:15,750 --> 02:40:21,060 hear his wise words. This is a wise man. That's all we know 2782 02:40:21,060 --> 02:40:25,200 about him is that he's wise. Thank you to all the producers 2783 02:40:25,230 --> 02:40:28,530 and support this show that support this show with time, 2784 02:40:28,530 --> 02:40:32,610 talent and treasure again, we watched neglected Human and 2785 02:40:32,610 --> 02:40:36,870 political issues raging in extreme violence at time other 2786 02:40:36,870 --> 02:40:41,370 parts of the world are already in flames. Palestine isn't the 2787 02:40:41,400 --> 02:40:45,750 only example of disenfranchised region regions, giving rise to 2788 02:40:45,750 --> 02:40:49,650 conflicts and demonstrating the ongoing failure of the United 2789 02:40:49,650 --> 02:40:54,450 Nations in supporting justice over the might make sense of 2790 02:40:54,450 --> 02:41:00,720 effort for ism forum was a forum effort for risk furs, and what 2791 02:41:00,720 --> 02:41:05,910 does that say got it like an old saying the attacks by both sides 2792 02:41:05,910 --> 02:41:08,880 are terrible and the human slaughter of women, children, 2793 02:41:08,910 --> 02:41:13,470 elderly and innocent civilians is wrong. Thank you too, for 2794 02:41:13,470 --> 02:41:17,370 offering some balance in this political and not religious 2795 02:41:17,370 --> 02:41:22,230 conflict. Yes, thank you. Seeing our respective faiths attacked 2796 02:41:22,260 --> 02:41:26,580 hurts us all anti semitic and Islamophobic reaction have 2797 02:41:26,580 --> 02:41:30,990 quickly returned in the turn the other cheek Christian world 2798 02:41:31,260 --> 02:41:35,670 justifying killing on both sides. Thank you M five M. And 2799 02:41:35,670 --> 02:41:38,910 politicians Nikki Haley for again making out religious 2800 02:41:38,910 --> 02:41:43,650 groups terrorists and killing Jews and Muslims acceptable. For 2801 02:41:43,650 --> 02:41:48,690 those wondering about attitude in the region. It has quickly 2802 02:41:48,690 --> 02:41:53,250 turned hostile following the West's overt side taking Western 2803 02:41:53,250 --> 02:41:56,760 political leaders can rest assure Russia and China will 2804 02:41:56,760 --> 02:42:01,470 make inroads. Jordan is about as close to Russia as Venezuela is 2805 02:42:01,470 --> 02:42:07,830 to the US. As was stated in Team America, this is 911 times dot 2806 02:42:07,830 --> 02:42:12,060 dot while 911 times 100 I think is what they said. Nobody knows 2807 02:42:12,060 --> 02:42:17,760 what it is 911 times 100 And JNK Serrano numbers have Dogpatch 2808 02:42:17,760 --> 02:42:22,110 and Lois LeBeau via I love that guy. I love his wisdom. 2809 02:42:24,330 --> 02:42:27,030 John C Dvorak: Well, he's a he's out he's out and about. He's in 2810 02:42:27,030 --> 02:42:27,840 the region of ground. 2811 02:42:27,870 --> 02:42:28,680 Adam Curry: He's in the region. 2812 02:42:29,310 --> 02:42:31,230 John C Dvorak: He's doing something we don't know where he 2813 02:42:31,230 --> 02:42:35,940 is. He's in the region. Really? He's in the regional lot. Yeah, 2814 02:42:35,970 --> 02:42:38,190 Adam Curry: well, he's in the region that's what he does. 2815 02:42:38,670 --> 02:42:42,810 Which means he's boots on the ground and a top executive 2816 02:42:42,810 --> 02:42:45,720 producer of the no agenda show we thank you very much so animus 2817 02:42:47,430 --> 02:42:50,370 John C Dvorak: Douglas MC fate shows up in second place. 2818 02:42:51,090 --> 02:42:55,830 Although it's not a competition. He's in Waller, Texas. It's 2819 02:42:55,830 --> 02:42:59,820 interesting how these Texans coming up here indeed iTMi and 2820 02:43:00,150 --> 02:43:02,610 thoroughly enjoy the show and it's high time I got off my 2821 02:43:02,610 --> 02:43:05,820 douchebag ass and make a donation please de douche me. 2822 02:43:07,950 --> 02:43:11,160 Adam Curry: You've been de duced douchebag as 2823 02:43:13,320 --> 02:43:17,430 John C Dvorak: pronouncing pronouncing Kate me is skunk 2824 02:43:17,430 --> 02:43:22,800 beard night of the third coast and rebel us with the yet karma 2825 02:43:22,800 --> 02:43:28,980 for all God bless. Dub MC fate in Waller Texas. 2826 02:43:31,410 --> 02:43:35,910 Unknown: You've got ah Harma 2827 02:43:37,980 --> 02:43:43,410 Adam Curry: then we have Mary NEW NEW NEW any new new from 2828 02:43:43,410 --> 02:43:47,220 wills point Texas oh she has a note which is attached. Here we 2829 02:43:47,220 --> 02:43:55,080 go number two Mary Mary new Dear John and this is $1,000.33 short 2830 02:43:55,080 --> 02:43:59,580 note. It says short note Nice. Dear John Adam granted is your 2831 02:43:59,580 --> 02:44:04,800 well earned $1,000.33 cent donation I see 33 everywhere. 2832 02:44:05,100 --> 02:44:08,670 When you said PhD I could not resist gotta have one. Please 2833 02:44:08,670 --> 02:44:13,770 send my media deacons send me my media deconstruction PhD. for 2834 02:44:13,770 --> 02:44:17,160 over 10 years. I've been listening with Bose speakers 2835 02:44:17,160 --> 02:44:21,120 hooked up in my kitchen where I slave making healthy food for 2836 02:44:21,120 --> 02:44:24,780 hubby. That hit me in the mouth. Kimchi egg salad kombucha. 2837 02:44:24,870 --> 02:44:31,500 Microgreens kefir is cheese, SUN OVEN grass fed beef. I don't 2838 02:44:31,500 --> 02:44:37,470 listen to anything but you and my husband moved from Wisconsin 2839 02:44:37,470 --> 02:44:39,960 to Texas and bought a monolithic dome. 2840 02:44:40,080 --> 02:44:43,650 John C Dvorak: Oh, cool. You live in a dome? Yeah, 2841 02:44:43,650 --> 02:44:45,990 Adam Curry: monolithic dome send a picture I want to see that. 2842 02:44:46,110 --> 02:44:50,130 Short and sweet. No jingles. We'd like German Dornfelder wine 2843 02:44:50,220 --> 02:44:56,280 and Sicilian beef speed any speed speed any at the 2844 02:44:56,280 --> 02:45:01,110 roundtable de Mary of the dome stead Thank you. Okay, I gotta 2845 02:45:01,110 --> 02:45:05,100 write this down. German Dornfelder wine. I've never 2846 02:45:05,100 --> 02:45:06,300 heard of this in my life. 2847 02:45:07,620 --> 02:45:11,790 John C Dvorak: German Dornfelder wine Dornfelder is a brand of 2848 02:45:11,820 --> 02:45:14,100 Riesling German, Doran 2849 02:45:14,130 --> 02:45:17,730 Adam Curry: Felder wine and what was that other product she 2850 02:45:17,730 --> 02:45:21,870 wanted. Hello? Okay, well, you read the next one. I'll add this 2851 02:45:21,870 --> 02:45:24,180 here. Okay. Dini, 2852 02:45:24,300 --> 02:45:27,900 John C Dvorak: Edward Taran or Tarrant in Dillsburg, 2853 02:45:27,930 --> 02:45:32,520 Pennsylvania. And he came in with 1000 says jingles deaf 2854 02:45:32,520 --> 02:45:36,030 cancer donate me Joe. Anything with the Jide Reverend and a 2855 02:45:36,030 --> 02:45:40,170 Bitcoin in the morning and mofos thank you so much for everything 2856 02:45:40,170 --> 02:45:43,350 you do. I've been a douche bag for too long many. Too many 2857 02:45:43,350 --> 02:45:49,890 years now. Please de douche. You've been de deuced I heard 2858 02:45:49,890 --> 02:45:56,280 you both on ground zero with Clyde Lewis an age ago and we 2859 02:45:56,280 --> 02:46:00,690 were on that show. They must have clipped us must only have 2860 02:46:00,690 --> 02:46:04,920 heard one other person mentioned that interview on this show is 2861 02:46:04,920 --> 02:46:08,280 the second Clyde Lewis donation. There you go. Thank you, which 2862 02:46:08,280 --> 02:46:12,660 is also too far back to recall. Actually, I remember it. It 2863 02:46:12,660 --> 02:46:15,540 wasn't that far back. I've been hooked ever since and I can 2864 02:46:15,540 --> 02:46:17,730 honestly say that if it weren't for the birth to you I wouldn't 2865 02:46:17,730 --> 02:46:21,690 have made it through that rough past six years that my life that 2866 02:46:21,690 --> 02:46:27,900 has been my life Jesus Christ joking but not please give me a 2867 02:46:27,900 --> 02:46:30,300 birthday shout out to my beautiful baby kid Atlanta 2868 02:46:30,300 --> 02:46:33,570 Phoenix on 11 Seven I don't know if she's on the list or now she 2869 02:46:33,570 --> 02:46:37,950 is. She's the best and it will kill me until I see you again. 2870 02:46:38,340 --> 02:46:43,050 The message to her a shout out to my son Edison. Edison Finn as 2871 02:46:43,050 --> 02:46:46,200 well. I love you both can I please get an F cancer for my 2872 02:46:46,200 --> 02:46:49,740 dad who passed this year on my birthday? Can't beat those odds 2873 02:46:49,740 --> 02:46:53,670 I love you and know you are where you want to be. I'm sorry 2874 02:46:53,670 --> 02:46:57,990 it took me so long to donate. If you read the off the air part of 2875 02:46:57,990 --> 02:47:00,330 this note you will hopefully have an easter egg to add to 2876 02:47:00,330 --> 02:47:04,170 your show sometime down the line. The Ph D program is a 2877 02:47:04,170 --> 02:47:11,670 fantastic idea I'm in and it adds to my grand plan genius 2878 02:47:12,540 --> 02:47:16,500 please meet me sir Phoenix Finnikin of the Pennsylvania to 2879 02:47:16,500 --> 02:47:20,130 turions Thank you both over and over F Pennsylvania 2880 02:47:27,810 --> 02:47:30,390 Unknown: all hell is gonna break loose and you're gonna need a 2881 02:47:30,390 --> 02:47:30,930 Bitcoin 2882 02:47:36,150 --> 02:47:38,610 you've got karma? I must say. 2883 02:47:41,070 --> 02:47:47,550 Adam Curry: My, my Ph D came in my diploma. Yeah, I was so 2884 02:47:47,550 --> 02:47:51,840 happy. I thought it looks so nice. I took a picture of it, 2885 02:47:52,260 --> 02:47:54,420 which included in the newsletter, 2886 02:47:54,630 --> 02:47:56,910 John C Dvorak: you tweeted and I put it in the newsletter. 2887 02:47:57,270 --> 02:48:02,910 Adam Curry: Now. That thing got 3000 likes more than anything. 2888 02:48:02,970 --> 02:48:08,430 What was interesting. A large portion of people said oh my 2889 02:48:08,430 --> 02:48:11,430 god, look at those teeth, which you 2890 02:48:11,430 --> 02:48:16,140 John C Dvorak: got. If he had 3000 likes you had 2000 teeth 2891 02:48:16,140 --> 02:48:20,700 calm likes and 1000 t shirt likes and what 2892 02:48:20,700 --> 02:48:24,810 Adam Curry: was also amazing I think a lot of people thought I 2893 02:48:24,810 --> 02:48:28,560 had actually graduated and gotten a PhD I don't think a lot 2894 02:48:28,560 --> 02:48:30,990 of people were like wow, that's a great congratulations. Good 2895 02:48:30,990 --> 02:48:33,360 job. Well done. You must have worked 2896 02:48:33,660 --> 02:48:35,400 John C Dvorak: below that picture up but it clearly said 2897 02:48:35,400 --> 02:48:36,540 no agenda show. 2898 02:48:36,810 --> 02:48:39,930 Adam Curry: I know I think there was a high high degree of people 2899 02:48:40,020 --> 02:48:43,830 who just thought I got my degree you know like oh, wow, curry did 2900 02:48:43,830 --> 02:48:47,670 that. You did but you know what I mean? Like really? Like went 2901 02:48:47,670 --> 02:48:53,070 John C Dvorak: to school? I mean me a school. Show degree 2902 02:48:55,710 --> 02:49:00,120 Adam Curry: was fun though. Mark Borst Parts Unknown Mr. Mark. 2903 02:49:00,150 --> 02:49:04,380 Hey guys. 1000 Originally I became a night and show 1500 2904 02:49:04,380 --> 02:49:07,890 with your two time donation promotion that was the BOGO. 2905 02:49:09,540 --> 02:49:12,810 Although I'm not sure I was ever knighted back then. Although I 2906 02:49:12,810 --> 02:49:15,270 could have missed my name amongst the chaos of that 2907 02:49:15,270 --> 02:49:19,710 episode since I was listening at 2.5 speed back then. lol and 2908 02:49:19,710 --> 02:49:23,550 since I felt like a cheapskate I never got my ring. Now my 2909 02:49:23,550 --> 02:49:27,330 ceiling is getting dull so I could use the wax. About to 2910 02:49:27,330 --> 02:49:29,730 finish paying for my oldest in college and getting ready to 2911 02:49:29,730 --> 02:49:34,620 start over with my youngest How could I pass up a 1k PhD for 2912 02:49:34,620 --> 02:49:39,300 myself? Thanks for your six plus hours a week in the morning. Dr. 2913 02:49:39,300 --> 02:49:42,960 Sir becoming heroic. Yes, instant nights you get the 2914 02:49:42,960 --> 02:49:46,260 ceiling wax and you get your PhD and you're an executive 2915 02:49:46,260 --> 02:49:47,580 producer. It doesn't get any better. 2916 02:49:47,850 --> 02:49:51,840 John C Dvorak: I would suggest his goes to no agenda rings.com 2917 02:49:51,840 --> 02:49:55,560 and put in for the rain Ray? Yes you will. And you also put it 2918 02:49:55,560 --> 02:50:01,860 for the certificate your PhD diploma. The same sight. And you 2919 02:50:01,890 --> 02:50:03,990 I sense he never did that. 2920 02:50:04,860 --> 02:50:07,080 Adam Curry: No, but he will now because he felt like a 2921 02:50:07,080 --> 02:50:09,690 cheapskate. Now he's up the ante, he's good to go. I love 2922 02:50:09,690 --> 02:50:11,040 people this good, 2923 02:50:11,070 --> 02:50:14,880 John C Dvorak: he might just not do anything he might Patricia 2924 02:50:14,880 --> 02:50:19,830 cross another Parts Unknown donator $1,000 And she says I 2925 02:50:19,830 --> 02:50:23,760 did it, I finally pulled the trigger and made my first 2926 02:50:23,760 --> 02:50:28,410 donation. My niece turned on me, I turned me on to your show. And 2927 02:50:28,410 --> 02:50:33,330 on July of this year, she turned me on, turned on me and turned 2928 02:50:33,330 --> 02:50:37,080 me on to your show in July of this year, and I'm hooked. I 2929 02:50:37,080 --> 02:50:40,260 decided to PhD You'd make a great early Christmas present to 2930 02:50:40,260 --> 02:50:44,850 myself. By the way, it would be a good Christmas present for 2931 02:50:44,850 --> 02:50:48,360 anybody for anybody. I would like to be referred to as that 2932 02:50:48,390 --> 02:50:53,550 Dame stitchy woman. Keep up the great work Patricia cross, that 2933 02:50:53,550 --> 02:50:53,910 Dame 2934 02:50:53,910 --> 02:50:58,680 Adam Curry: stitchy woman I like it, sir, whose cadaver? Well, 2935 02:50:58,710 --> 02:51:01,740 Parts Unknown, but that's from the Netherlands 1000 In the 2936 02:51:01,740 --> 02:51:05,430 morning, Adam and John, who doesn't want to be PhD in media 2937 02:51:05,430 --> 02:51:09,720 deconstruction, or maybe better media nihilism. So Doctor of 2938 02:51:09,720 --> 02:51:13,560 Philosophy name at the certificate, Albert Peter EURion 2939 02:51:13,560 --> 02:51:18,720 for Hey, no agenda rings.com You can put in whatever whatever you 2940 02:51:18,720 --> 02:51:22,230 want. A shout out to the NA lowlands community. Thank you 2941 02:51:22,230 --> 02:51:25,710 for your courage or Fusco dopher. I also believe 2942 02:51:25,710 --> 02:51:28,950 John C Dvorak: that that is a you have to go to the website to 2943 02:51:28,950 --> 02:51:32,070 get this done. And man sending us the names and stuff. It's 2944 02:51:32,070 --> 02:51:33,750 just no, we don't have the address here. 2945 02:51:33,780 --> 02:51:37,470 Adam Curry: May I May I say something? May I say that 2946 02:51:37,470 --> 02:51:42,840 certificate? It's good. And I want to compliment Jay because 2947 02:51:42,870 --> 02:51:45,600 Jay, did Jay do most of the work on that? Yeah. 2948 02:51:45,870 --> 02:51:47,640 John C Dvorak: And she designed to seal the 2949 02:51:47,640 --> 02:51:51,720 Adam Curry: seal. I mean, it's the RE seal is beautiful. The 2950 02:51:51,720 --> 02:51:56,310 only thing aren't some sort of on some PhD certificates bigger 2951 02:51:56,310 --> 02:51:56,820 or is that only 2952 02:51:56,820 --> 02:51:59,640 John C Dvorak: four? No, that's about the right size. That's 2953 02:51:59,760 --> 02:52:01,770 some are smaller. Well, it's 2954 02:52:01,770 --> 02:52:05,280 Adam Curry: a beautiful, it is beautiful. And Tina went that's 2955 02:52:05,280 --> 02:52:10,140 beautiful. I'm going to frame that. So she will is going on my 2956 02:52:10,140 --> 02:52:13,200 wall prominently display. It is it I mean it's just it's it's an 2957 02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:14,790 outstanding product. That's all I need to 2958 02:52:16,440 --> 02:52:18,690 John C Dvorak: do products on this show. That's that's a 2959 02:52:18,690 --> 02:52:23,400 complimentary outstanding product product thing. It's this 2960 02:52:23,400 --> 02:52:27,000 our tote bag. Yeah, you want a tote bag? Give your money to 2961 02:52:27,000 --> 02:52:30,060 KQED you want a PhD? 2962 02:52:30,090 --> 02:52:33,060 Adam Curry: Yeah, give your money to no agenda. There you 2963 02:52:33,060 --> 02:52:33,450 go. 2964 02:52:36,570 --> 02:52:39,480 John C Dvorak: You know, there's got to be the people that have 2965 02:52:39,480 --> 02:52:42,990 made it it's it's an interesting promotion and in this kind of be 2966 02:52:42,990 --> 02:52:47,280 people especially in the in the public broadcasting segment, 2967 02:52:47,280 --> 02:52:51,780 which I have worked in. Who think you know, we did the tote 2968 02:52:51,780 --> 02:52:56,070 bag in a it could we do this now and you know, gritting their 2969 02:52:56,070 --> 02:52:56,910 teeth. Well, we 2970 02:52:58,440 --> 02:53:02,940 Adam Curry: know only no agenda can pull this Why can't 2971 02:53:02,940 --> 02:53:07,800 John C Dvorak: Can't we do it? Because we just can't Yeah, 2972 02:53:07,860 --> 02:53:11,250 Adam Curry: and because we deliver value twice a week, six 2973 02:53:11,250 --> 02:53:15,690 hours, six more than six hours a week we deliver value. You're 2974 02:53:15,690 --> 02:53:21,210 delivering regurgitated talking points and poop. It has no value 2975 02:53:22,590 --> 02:53:25,350 John C Dvorak: on what does have value as Kate Dame Karen Yes, 2976 02:53:25,380 --> 02:53:29,520 she comes in with $1,000 and says John and Adam I thank you 2977 02:53:29,520 --> 02:53:32,460 both for the best podcast in the universe and thank you for 2978 02:53:32,460 --> 02:53:35,700 helping us keep our sanity over the years please award this 2979 02:53:35,700 --> 02:53:40,800 degree to my wonderful husband Bradley seltzer aka sir Brad one 2980 02:53:40,800 --> 02:53:45,810 ex love Dame Karen and she would like to Reverend Al plus our 2d 2981 02:53:45,810 --> 02:53:46,440 to karma 2982 02:53:50,940 --> 02:53:57,840 Unknown: ESP. You've got karma 2983 02:54:00,840 --> 02:54:05,580 Adam Curry: sir Adam giant Cary, North Carolina 500. Executive 2984 02:54:05,580 --> 02:54:07,800 producer in the morning Adam and John my birthday falls on 2985 02:54:07,800 --> 02:54:10,950 tomorrow show show day so I decided to celebrate with no 2986 02:54:10,950 --> 02:54:14,190 agenda executive producer gift to myself please also include 2987 02:54:14,190 --> 02:54:18,150 the customary biscuit I think I have a biscuit for you. 2988 02:54:18,180 --> 02:54:20,670 Unknown: Here's your Biscay always give me a biscuit on my 2989 02:54:20,670 --> 02:54:21,990 birthday. Your coverage 2990 02:54:21,990 --> 02:54:24,390 Adam Curry: of the trans Maoist movement triggered or forgotten 2991 02:54:24,390 --> 02:54:28,080 memory I thought you might enjoy now. In 2011, I worked for a 2992 02:54:28,080 --> 02:54:30,900 Silicon Valley based media company that owns an online 2993 02:54:30,900 --> 02:54:34,590 community forum. The company declared that we must add an 2994 02:54:34,800 --> 02:54:39,510 other option for gender entry on the forum accounts, which seemed 2995 02:54:39,510 --> 02:54:43,350 crazy at the time. After rolling this out and tallying the 2996 02:54:43,350 --> 02:54:51,810 results to number one other entry was Jedi all the rest of 2997 02:54:51,810 --> 02:54:56,490 our complete nonsense bonus dad joke question. Where do you get 2998 02:54:56,490 --> 02:55:04,020 a no agenda PhD answer night school Oh, keep up the great 2999 02:55:04,020 --> 02:55:07,590 work Tom sir Adam giant of Carrie. Thank you. Thank you 3000 02:55:07,590 --> 02:55:08,910 very much. We appreciate that 3001 02:55:09,960 --> 02:55:16,290 John C Dvorak: yet. So we move on to Amy teason in Lake Park, 3002 02:55:16,380 --> 02:55:22,680 Iowa 33332 And she sent a check in it. Paper note, which I can 3003 02:55:22,680 --> 02:55:27,210 prove I have because makes that noise. Hi, John and Adam. In 3004 02:55:27,210 --> 02:55:29,940 addition to being a stay at home homeschooling mom of four I also 3005 02:55:29,940 --> 02:55:33,570 run my own business, a retail store and charcuterie kitchen 3006 02:55:33,570 --> 02:55:37,230 called Lakeside market. I've included a typo my couple of my 3007 02:55:37,260 --> 02:55:40,710 top selling products for you to enjoy my best selling cocktail 3008 02:55:40,710 --> 02:55:46,260 party pouch in lime Margarita as Sangria party pouch, and an old 3009 02:55:46,260 --> 02:55:49,050 fashioned infusion jar kit. So she 3010 02:55:50,100 --> 02:55:51,150 Adam Curry: got this product. 3011 02:55:51,270 --> 02:55:54,600 John C Dvorak: I love you got this stuff, too. Yes, I love 3012 02:55:54,840 --> 02:55:59,220 these party pouches. They're like I told Jason, what do you 3013 02:55:59,220 --> 02:56:01,650 think what are this? And I said Look at this. And I said it's 3014 02:56:01,650 --> 02:56:03,870 like a book boat a bag? Yeah, it's 3015 02:56:04,230 --> 02:56:06,540 Adam Curry: a handle and a spout and you just fill it up with 3016 02:56:06,540 --> 02:56:09,000 booze and Bam, you got a cocktail. 3017 02:56:09,390 --> 02:56:12,300 John C Dvorak: And Jay says what's the boat a bag? Says 3018 02:56:12,300 --> 02:56:15,150 Adam Curry: know what the millennials would do? You can't 3019 02:56:15,150 --> 02:56:18,570 tell time either. What's a boater bag, John? Boat a 3020 02:56:18,570 --> 02:56:23,160 John C Dvorak: bag is this kind of a kind of a leather bag as 3021 02:56:23,160 --> 02:56:26,430 supposedly even though it's usually lined and back in the 3022 02:56:26,430 --> 02:56:31,290 70s I guess they would you'd have a boat a bag at your party, 3023 02:56:31,530 --> 02:56:34,740 and it would be filled with wine. And it had a spout on it 3024 02:56:34,740 --> 02:56:39,300 that squirted the wine out of a stream. And you'd go you'd get 3025 02:56:39,300 --> 02:56:42,780 over somebody and she'd open her mouth or to get and then just 3026 02:56:42,990 --> 02:56:46,440 work the wine into the mouth right before you do a shotgun. 3027 02:56:47,010 --> 02:56:51,780 And that was the end of that that ended 2030 years ago so no 3028 02:56:51,780 --> 02:56:53,790 millennial knows what the hell you're talking about. 3029 02:56:54,630 --> 02:56:57,810 Adam Curry: It was leather pouch leather string on it. Oh yeah, 3030 02:56:57,810 --> 02:56:58,800 the boba. Yeah, you 3031 02:56:59,010 --> 02:56:59,940 John C Dvorak: had it. Yeah. 3032 02:57:01,860 --> 02:57:05,070 Adam Curry: But I love this product because literally it's a 3033 02:57:05,190 --> 02:57:09,240 it's a bag about a bag. And then it has ingredients. 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Oh the days 3055 02:58:23,010 --> 02:58:24,750 John C Dvorak: very she's a character. Yes, 3056 02:58:24,750 --> 02:58:27,630 Adam Curry: she is. I like that product though. Sir cow. Oh 3057 02:58:27,630 --> 02:58:32,010 there sir. Cow buff. Another outstanding product. Lavender 3058 02:58:32,010 --> 02:58:36,450 blossoms.org. He's in Northville. Michigan 311 dot 10 3059 02:58:36,450 --> 02:58:40,320 Happy birthday to all Marines out there. Yes. Tomorrow. 3060 02:58:40,890 --> 02:58:43,650 Although it's celebrated its celebrate tomorrow but the 11th 3061 02:58:43,650 --> 02:58:48,240 is Veterans Day. And we observe that because we have a lot of 3062 02:58:48,240 --> 02:58:51,480 veterans who listen to the no agenda show we'd love all of 3063 02:58:51,480 --> 02:58:57,090 you. So he is he is saying happy birthday to all Marines out 3064 02:58:57,090 --> 02:59:01,770 there Sergeant N aka sir cow of lavender blossoms. Oh, he was a 3065 02:59:01,770 --> 02:59:07,500 badass sergeant. Bet a bet he was Betty was thank you sir cow. 3066 02:59:07,590 --> 02:59:10,260 John C Dvorak: We appreciate you. Sir pursuit of peace and 3067 02:59:10,260 --> 02:59:15,420 tranquility in Midland, Georgia. To to to erode. Dux. To to to to 3068 02:59:15,420 --> 02:59:20,220 to to see attached note and is on a card still makes noise when 3069 02:59:20,220 --> 02:59:25,710 you shake it. In the morning, boys, please accept this shorter 3070 02:59:25,710 --> 02:59:28,800 road ducks for the month of November to keep myself current. 3071 02:59:28,980 --> 02:59:32,400 No jingles no karma necessary sincerely to the pursuit of 3072 02:59:32,460 --> 02:59:35,250 peace and tranquility in the lands of the red clay and the 3073 02:59:35,250 --> 02:59:39,540 cherry trees. All right. And he has some accounting nurse. 3074 02:59:39,660 --> 02:59:42,930 Adam Curry: And just because you have been contracted to do the 3075 02:59:42,930 --> 02:59:45,450 read. I think you should do our last Associate Executive 3076 02:59:45,450 --> 02:59:45,960 Producer. 3077 02:59:46,290 --> 02:59:53,010 John C Dvorak: Oh, yes. Yes. So we have Linda Lou patcon. Yes, 3078 02:59:53,220 --> 02:59:57,030 Lakewood Colorado jobs karma she wants for a resume that gets 3079 02:59:57,030 --> 03:00:00,990 results go to Image makers inc.com Roll your executive 3080 03:00:00,990 --> 03:00:05,340 resume and search needs. That's image makers Inc with a k.com. 3081 03:00:05,550 --> 03:00:09,660 Or just fine Linda Lou patcon under the show's producer lists, 3082 03:00:09,660 --> 03:00:10,410 jobs, 3083 03:00:10,560 --> 03:00:14,700 Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. 3084 03:00:19,020 --> 03:00:21,810 Adam Curry: People like Blake do or x contracted 3085 03:00:23,670 --> 03:00:24,720 John C Dvorak: to show down. 3086 03:00:26,790 --> 03:00:28,590 Adam Curry: Thank you to these executive and Associate 3087 03:00:28,590 --> 03:00:32,580 Executive producers and fresh new PhD years. I look forward to 3088 03:00:32,580 --> 03:00:36,510 seeing all of you up on our podium in a moment as John takes 3089 03:00:36,510 --> 03:00:39,900 us through it and won't be very long takes us through the 50s of 3090 03:00:39,900 --> 03:00:44,460 our donors where we give name and location usually in May 3091 03:00:44,460 --> 03:00:46,020 John C Dvorak: and I want to mention that we have sent out 3092 03:00:46,020 --> 03:00:52,740 the first batch of PhDs PhDs Yes, Webster County meet up 170. 3093 03:00:53,430 --> 03:00:59,010 That's 170 bucks that Michael J donate 120 and Benjamin rittgers 3094 03:00:59,040 --> 03:01:06,570 50. Rajeev valetti in Bedford, Massachusetts 150, sir, Hey, 3095 03:01:06,570 --> 03:01:11,790 man, watch that shit. Or watch this shit in Austin, Texas. It 3096 03:01:11,790 --> 03:01:16,800 should be a typical name for that area. Yeah. No kid at 778 3097 03:01:17,550 --> 03:01:20,970 Brian McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina. Why do you say 3098 03:01:20,970 --> 03:01:22,320 Brian? His name is Kevin. 3099 03:01:22,380 --> 03:01:23,850 Adam Curry: What is wrong with you today? 3100 03:01:24,270 --> 03:01:29,880 John C Dvorak: I don't know. 808 And he says the Archduke of Luna 3101 03:01:29,880 --> 03:01:35,640 lover American boots. Sir David callsign Barney Jarman in north 3102 03:01:35,640 --> 03:01:42,300 to Remora 76. Call me Ivan and I got it wrong. Oh calls me Ivan 3103 03:01:42,360 --> 03:01:47,070 and I got it wrong. What the hell? Okay. Guy is a beef 3104 03:01:47,070 --> 03:01:52,380 between you and him, not me. I don't know. You said Tora Maura 3105 03:01:52,410 --> 03:01:56,970 incorrectly. Okay, Grayson insurance in Aurora, Colorado. 3106 03:01:56,970 --> 03:02:04,650 606. Kevin McLaughlin again 606 small boobs donation. Michael 3107 03:02:04,680 --> 03:02:10,560 fredell, Riedel or freddo Freidel. Kansas City, Missouri 3108 03:02:10,620 --> 03:02:17,940 60. Craig cut nerd in Atlanta, Georgia. Advice get vi count 3109 03:02:17,940 --> 03:02:25,710 birthday 57 six s 5678. Sir Edward in Omaha, Nebraska. 5568. 3110 03:02:26,490 --> 03:02:32,970 William Arcand in Bedford, New Hampshire 5555. Sir, broth. br 3111 03:02:32,970 --> 03:02:39,810 Roach pH in Greenfield Park. New York. Needs some jobs currently 3112 03:02:39,810 --> 03:02:43,050 give you that at the end of course. Kristen Hines in 3113 03:02:43,050 --> 03:02:47,640 Manchester, New Hampshire. 5123 as we get down to the 50s Josiah 3114 03:02:47,640 --> 03:02:54,930 Thomas and Kenny and Kenny and Kenny and Kenny and Kiowa 51 Bad 3115 03:02:54,930 --> 03:03:00,090 idea supply $50.50 3116 03:03:01,200 --> 03:03:03,060 Adam Curry: on sale this week, but 3117 03:03:03,060 --> 03:03:05,610 John C Dvorak: I don't know where he is didn't come through. 3118 03:03:05,760 --> 03:03:08,970 Just his name is bad idea supplies good Carrie Lynn and 3119 03:03:08,970 --> 03:03:15,540 Elizabeth Colorado 5050. And it's a birthday miles Plano 3120 03:03:15,540 --> 03:03:20,850 miles in Charlottesville, Virginia 5033. Ryan Tiernan in 3121 03:03:20,850 --> 03:03:24,120 North Providence, Rhode Island comes in at 50 and the following 3122 03:03:24,120 --> 03:03:28,140 people all came in at 50 name and location as not that many 3123 03:03:28,440 --> 03:03:33,360 Matthew Smith and Colchester Suffolk UK Philip Koosman offski 3124 03:03:33,390 --> 03:03:37,620 in Austin, Texas, Jonathan Farris and liberal Kansas Geron 3125 03:03:37,620 --> 03:03:44,310 Anderson in Hacienda Heights, California Danika Keaney. Kenny 3126 03:03:44,310 --> 03:03:50,550 Kenny, in Lincoln, New Hampshire. Robertson's home in 3127 03:03:50,550 --> 03:03:55,260 Flint, Michigan, that's Robertson home, Justin Cruz and 3128 03:03:55,260 --> 03:03:58,830 to hatchapee California. And remember Zurich in Memphis, 3129 03:03:58,830 --> 03:04:03,840 Tennessee, Steven ray in Spokane, Washington, Jonathan 3130 03:04:03,840 --> 03:04:09,480 Meyer in Xenia, Ohio George rachet in La vernia, Texas, Cap 3131 03:04:09,480 --> 03:04:16,050 pack, chiropractic PLLC and Capek Michigan that see a PAC 3132 03:04:17,070 --> 03:04:20,970 William Kidwell in Dover Delaware natey of Oregon, San 3133 03:04:20,970 --> 03:04:26,970 Marcos, California, Adrianna Adriana Marshall in Shrewsbury, 3134 03:04:26,970 --> 03:04:34,800 UK, William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas, William dole gay and 3135 03:04:34,800 --> 03:04:41,700 Bristol Ville, Ohio. And Jason deluzy Oh in Miami Beach I want 3136 03:04:41,700 --> 03:04:46,200 to mention that possibly Adriana there in shops are so she she's 3137 03:04:46,200 --> 03:04:51,150 a high time she donated probably give her a de douching you've 3138 03:04:51,150 --> 03:04:58,050 been de deuced that's our list of supporters for show. 1606 3139 03:04:58,050 --> 03:05:00,480 want to thank each and every one of them for making To show 3140 03:05:00,480 --> 03:05:01,110 reality 3141 03:05:01,140 --> 03:05:04,950 Unknown: yes and here's the jobs karma as requested jobs, jobs, 3142 03:05:05,070 --> 03:05:08,220 jobs and jobs for jobs 3143 03:05:10,530 --> 03:05:12,630 John C Dvorak: good make good street do that you can 3144 03:05:12,870 --> 03:05:15,240 especially for a lady a dame 3145 03:05:15,300 --> 03:05:18,180 Adam Curry: yes Dame with the Pensacola homestead says not to 3146 03:05:18,180 --> 03:05:21,480 be a pain but you forgot to play house selling karma for me on 3147 03:05:21,480 --> 03:05:26,070 Sunday show sadly we've had to extend our closing date again. 3148 03:05:26,490 --> 03:05:30,570 Well, let's take care of this and add in a go to make it work 3149 03:05:30,570 --> 03:05:39,330 shall we? You've got our money. And let me see John Adams. This 3150 03:05:39,330 --> 03:05:42,720 is Denise Robertson who become a dame I've been seeing 30 threes 3151 03:05:42,720 --> 03:05:45,330 everywhere so that inspired me to check my donations with my 3152 03:05:45,330 --> 03:05:48,270 last PayPal donation. I have achieved daymo To the best 3153 03:05:48,270 --> 03:05:50,910 podcast in universe. I want to thank you for helping me 3154 03:05:50,910 --> 03:05:53,850 recognize that the M five m is nothing but propaganda for 3155 03:05:53,850 --> 03:05:57,270 government and can essentially be ignored and for keeping us 3156 03:05:57,270 --> 03:06:00,300 informed about what is really going on. For everyone listening 3157 03:06:00,300 --> 03:06:03,210 make a monthly donation that will get you to the roundtable. 3158 03:06:03,210 --> 03:06:06,510 What are you waiting for? Nobody should work for free. And I used 3159 03:06:06,510 --> 03:06:09,180 to stop listening before the ending show music listening to 3160 03:06:09,180 --> 03:06:12,780 the compilation podcast, when you were out changed all that 3161 03:06:12,900 --> 03:06:16,140 what an amazing talented crew your producers are that's the 3162 03:06:16,140 --> 03:06:20,310 end of show mixes. I never skip a minute now. And the art is 3163 03:06:20,310 --> 03:06:24,120 always impressive. Same with the tech great job producers. For my 3164 03:06:24,120 --> 03:06:27,030 damn name. I would like to be deemed a nice queen of COBOL 3165 03:06:27,030 --> 03:06:32,010 programmers who about that, quote cobalt, she 3166 03:06:32,010 --> 03:06:34,530 John C Dvorak: says cool, but that color ball. Gotta be that 3167 03:06:34,530 --> 03:06:37,350 old cobalt machine member I think we Sun Microsystems used 3168 03:06:37,350 --> 03:06:38,220 to make a gold bug 3169 03:06:38,220 --> 03:06:40,680 Adam Curry: no micro Sun Microsystems bought I still have 3170 03:06:40,680 --> 03:06:44,070 one. I have a cobalt. Yeah, you have a cobalt I have a cobalt 3171 03:06:44,070 --> 03:06:48,810 cube. But I think I'm pretty sure she she means COBOL but I 3172 03:06:48,810 --> 03:06:49,500 John C Dvorak: don't think so. 3173 03:06:50,070 --> 03:06:55,170 Adam Curry: Oh pitcher for the round table I like Adam's Rib 3174 03:06:55,170 --> 03:07:00,180 have eaten Ohio barbecue and peach crown. Oh my goodness. I'm 3175 03:07:00,180 --> 03:07:06,120 gonna just add this. That sounds yummy. Okay, Adam's Rib have 3176 03:07:06,180 --> 03:07:11,760 eaten barbecue Okay, and keep up the good work Please play the 3177 03:07:11,760 --> 03:07:14,880 longest version of Rev Allah makes me lol every single time. 3178 03:07:14,910 --> 03:07:18,750 Oh goodness gracious. Well, since we're alert the affiliates 3179 03:07:18,780 --> 03:07:22,860 regardless, we're going over time but she has been she has 3180 03:07:22,860 --> 03:07:25,710 been at this for a very long time. She saved up all her 3181 03:07:25,710 --> 03:07:27,840 pennies and sent it to us so yes 3182 03:07:31,830 --> 03:07:35,130 Unknown: he's getting lunch at Chipotle 3183 03:07:36,810 --> 03:07:47,550 parties in the race. Kim Kardashian Weaver they are all 3184 03:07:47,550 --> 03:07:53,160 Ginny Sol ESP I see there's no real conference. This 3185 03:07:58,530 --> 03:08:01,680 we must we must 3186 03:08:02,730 --> 03:08:07,290 and we will much about that. 3187 03:08:09,330 --> 03:08:11,430 Adam Curry: And thank you to all executive and Associate 3188 03:08:11,430 --> 03:08:13,980 Executive Producers those titles are real thank you for 3189 03:08:13,980 --> 03:08:16,500 supporting the no agenda show our formula 3190 03:08:16,500 --> 03:08:20,460 Unknown: is this. We go out for yet people in the mouth. 3191 03:08:40,680 --> 03:08:43,440 Adam Curry: We congratulate Sir Edward who celebrated on the 3192 03:08:43,440 --> 03:08:46,620 sixth of November Edward Taran who wishes his beautiful baby 3193 03:08:46,620 --> 03:08:49,500 kids Alana Phoenix Happy Birthday. Alana Phoenix 3194 03:08:49,500 --> 03:08:52,410 celebrate on the seventh Craig cutter wishes by Councillor 3195 03:08:52,410 --> 03:08:57,060 Craig of Northeast Georgia Happy birthday today. Sir Adam giant 3196 03:08:57,060 --> 03:09:01,350 celebrates today. And Carolyn Colorado Carebear is turning the 3197 03:09:01,350 --> 03:09:04,140 Big Five Oh, happy birthday from everybody. He had the best 3198 03:09:04,140 --> 03:09:11,760 podcast in the universe. And it is to bring up our Ph. D award. 3199 03:09:12,180 --> 03:09:15,600 Somebody please your optimism Dogpatch and Lois LeBeau via 3200 03:09:15,600 --> 03:09:20,430 Douglas McBain Mary new Edward Taran Mark Boris Patricia 3201 03:09:20,430 --> 03:09:24,750 crosser whose cadaver and Bradley cells are welcome new no 3202 03:09:24,750 --> 03:09:29,640 agenda MD Ph. D. Which is a society of learned persons. The 3203 03:09:29,640 --> 03:09:32,430 path to this high academic honor for some of you it has been a 3204 03:09:32,430 --> 03:09:35,820 long if not costly one. Some of the prices have been paid by 3205 03:09:35,820 --> 03:09:38,610 your hard earned wisdom some in other ways, but today is not an 3206 03:09:38,610 --> 03:09:42,090 end. It is only a beginning. From this point forward. Go 3207 03:09:42,090 --> 03:09:46,230 forth and spread the no agenda word far and wide. We will not 3208 03:09:46,230 --> 03:09:49,410 be silenced. We will not be deterred the truth is out there 3209 03:09:49,410 --> 03:09:57,300 now. PHCS go and find it's getting better, huh? 3210 03:09:58,320 --> 03:09:59,550 John C Dvorak: It's better you're getting closer. I'm 3211 03:09:59,550 --> 03:10:01,770 Unknown: getting back Getting closer. I'm working 3212 03:10:01,770 --> 03:10:04,740 Adam Curry: on it. Now we have a couple of dame's and some nights 3213 03:10:04,740 --> 03:10:07,440 to bring up on the podium. They get some rings and they get an 3214 03:10:07,440 --> 03:10:12,120 official. Get the big boy. Oops, somehow my Oh boy. Oh, this is 3215 03:10:12,120 --> 03:10:18,360 not good. This is not good. I'm frozen. Oh, you know what that 3216 03:10:18,360 --> 03:10:24,900 means is a crash is coming. Oh unfrozen so we're lucky up on 3217 03:10:24,900 --> 03:10:30,060 the podium Denise Robertson, Mary Douglas Mick St. Edward 3218 03:10:30,060 --> 03:10:32,880 Turner Mark Morris all of you are now Knights and Dames with 3219 03:10:32,880 --> 03:10:35,790 the no agenda Roundtable. I'm very proud to pronounce the k d 3220 03:10:35,790 --> 03:10:39,900 as Dame Denise queen of COBOL. prog programmers they marry up 3221 03:10:39,900 --> 03:10:44,190 the domes did that Dame stitchy woman sir some beard night of 3222 03:10:44,190 --> 03:10:47,100 the third Kosar, Phoenix Finnegan of the Pennsylvania 3223 03:10:47,100 --> 03:10:52,170 Tartarian and Dr. Sir, becoming heroic for you. We have hookers 3224 03:10:52,170 --> 03:10:57,900 and blow rent boys and Chardonnay. German Dornfelder 3225 03:10:57,900 --> 03:11:01,620 wine into psyllium beefs, Bedini Adams rim of Eaton, Ohio 3226 03:11:01,620 --> 03:11:05,910 barbecue on peach crown and of course, mutton and Mead here 3227 03:11:05,910 --> 03:11:09,870 already over at no agenda rings.com I know you are, you're 3228 03:11:09,870 --> 03:11:12,510 there to go. Take a look at those handsome Damon Knight 3229 03:11:12,510 --> 03:11:16,590 rings. There's a ring sizing guide send us your details 3230 03:11:16,800 --> 03:11:20,340 through the form the same for you PhDs, go ahead and use that 3231 03:11:20,340 --> 03:11:23,580 there's a PhD menu item and for those of you who want to become 3232 03:11:23,580 --> 03:11:25,680 a producer of the no agenda show go here 3233 03:11:25,710 --> 03:11:29,670 Unknown: for.org/n A or no 3234 03:11:29,670 --> 03:11:32,190 Adam Curry: agenda donations.com. And as always, we 3235 03:11:32,220 --> 03:11:36,150 also thank everyone who came in under $50 Typically for reasons 3236 03:11:36,150 --> 03:11:39,510 of anonymity or because you're on one of these sustaining 3237 03:11:39,510 --> 03:11:42,870 donations which you can make up yourself. You can do a 33 you 3238 03:11:42,870 --> 03:11:46,800 can do a $3.33 Anything you want. It's all possible and it 3239 03:11:46,800 --> 03:11:50,370 all helps support us by being producers of the no agenda show 3240 03:11:50,400 --> 03:11:51,450 no one said 3241 03:11:58,020 --> 03:12:01,530 and also thank you to the clip custodian the clip collector 3242 03:12:01,530 --> 03:12:05,100 Dred Scott, everybody who works behind the scenes and is out 3243 03:12:05,100 --> 03:12:08,670 there delivering time and talents to the show. Before we 3244 03:12:08,670 --> 03:12:11,640 get to our list of meetups here's a report from the TMI 3245 03:12:11,640 --> 03:12:12,000 Mito. 3246 03:12:14,160 --> 03:12:16,170 Unknown: Greetings from the farthest regions of the new 3247 03:12:16,170 --> 03:12:19,140 agenda multiverse This is the mudflats coming alive to tell 3248 03:12:19,140 --> 03:12:22,140 you that I'm not going anywhere. Now I'm gonna pass the mic to 3249 03:12:22,140 --> 03:12:23,760 Greta Thunberg How dare 3250 03:12:23,760 --> 03:12:26,550 you you still like future this is your cemetery seven 3251 03:12:26,550 --> 03:12:30,690 masquerading as a kind of sleeper cell agent. I have my 3252 03:12:30,720 --> 03:12:33,030 official documents in my pocket in the 3253 03:12:33,030 --> 03:12:34,680 morning this is eventual 3254 03:12:34,680 --> 03:12:37,440 serve vessel foot come to a meet up it's a lot of fun in the 3255 03:12:37,440 --> 03:12:40,290 morning is the circumference from sketchy coast.com And I'm 3256 03:12:40,290 --> 03:12:44,430 just sitting here 15 minutes just like JCD taught me de magic 3257 03:12:44,430 --> 03:12:45,150 boop in 3258 03:12:45,150 --> 03:12:46,530 the morning. No name 3259 03:12:46,680 --> 03:12:51,810 Adam Curry: in the morning and her head is gone that Greta Thun 3260 03:12:51,810 --> 03:12:54,510 Berry was pretty good. You should do something yes you do 3261 03:12:54,510 --> 03:12:58,230 some stuff for us. I like that. Hey meet ups taking place today 3262 03:12:58,230 --> 03:13:02,190 Broomfield Mile High meet up and birthday Bonanza that's at 630 3263 03:13:02,190 --> 03:13:06,660 at Old Man bar in Broomfield, Colorado today. The dame faith 3264 03:13:06,660 --> 03:13:10,380 first and douchebags who are already meeting in Pensacola, 3265 03:13:10,380 --> 03:13:13,710 Florida at goat lips, chew and brew house and bet they're 3266 03:13:13,710 --> 03:13:18,840 having fun. On Saturday, the release the Seattle Kraken, two 3267 03:13:18,840 --> 03:13:22,290 o'clock in Vietnamese coffee you district in Seattle, Washington 3268 03:13:22,770 --> 03:13:26,070 on Saturday as well the second Saturday slave soiree Dick's 3269 03:13:26,070 --> 03:13:30,630 primal burger in Portland, Oregon. I knew that was gonna 3270 03:13:30,630 --> 03:13:35,550 have to happen. Sorry. The next show day is the 12th of November 3271 03:13:36,000 --> 03:13:36,480 met. 3272 03:13:37,950 --> 03:13:41,250 John C Dvorak: Oh, wait, let me hit the coff button. Slow late. 3273 03:13:43,470 --> 03:13:48,060 Adam Curry: Nov. 12 505. My scars are psychosomatic one 3274 03:13:48,060 --> 03:13:52,290 o'clock at Urban's 360 pisa in Albuquerque, New Mexico. That's 3275 03:13:52,290 --> 03:13:55,770 sir Jeff Toei. Go and hang out with him. And on November 12. 3276 03:13:55,800 --> 03:13:57,630 Oh, we have a promo 3277 03:13:57,660 --> 03:14:02,310 Unknown: this Sunday Friendsgiving in Fredericksburg, 3278 03:14:02,460 --> 03:14:12,510 Virginia. 1:30pm come enjoy the best beer or root beer I'll be 3279 03:14:12,510 --> 03:14:20,190 your bartender. Pretzels pizzas empanadas for dogs gonna be like 3280 03:14:22,200 --> 03:14:25,380 Adam Curry: all righty Red Dragon brewery. Also on Sunday 3281 03:14:25,380 --> 03:14:30,330 November's in de na and strategy meet up come on man 3282 03:14:30,330 --> 03:14:34,620 Indianapolis, Indiana the dugout bar and on the 12 That's hills 3283 03:14:34,620 --> 03:14:38,340 and valleys the next episode four o'clock. Fun to hearing 3284 03:14:38,340 --> 03:14:41,910 from Barrett and all. That's the Dutch meetup. Sure. Andre Knight 3285 03:14:41,910 --> 03:14:46,200 of the MTP Pal account will be hosting that. And reminder. 3286 03:14:46,620 --> 03:14:52,080 Corinne the keeper and no agenda meet up at Doc's backyard Austin 3287 03:14:52,110 --> 03:14:57,480 on the 18th and we'll be in Fort in Indianapolis, Indiana. On the 3288 03:14:57,480 --> 03:14:59,880 fourth for the meetups. We're looking forward to seeing a big 3289 03:14:59,880 --> 03:15:02,520 two earn out. They're very excited about it. That's it. You 3290 03:15:02,520 --> 03:15:04,980 know agenda meetups, that's your list but there's a much bigger 3291 03:15:04,980 --> 03:15:07,620 list goes all the way up until Christmas. Really? You can find 3292 03:15:07,620 --> 03:15:10,080 that no agenda meetups.com Go take a look right now. You 3293 03:15:10,080 --> 03:15:12,930 deserve it. Why do you deserve it? Because it is the companion 3294 03:15:12,930 --> 03:15:15,690 to listening to the show. It's where you get connection, which 3295 03:15:15,720 --> 03:15:19,230 always gives you protection. No agenda meetup.com You can't find 3296 03:15:19,230 --> 03:15:21,090 one near you start one yourself. 3297 03:15:21,480 --> 03:15:25,890 Unknown: Sometimes you go hang out with all the nights and 3298 03:15:25,890 --> 03:15:36,360 days. You won't be triggered. You want to be everybody feels 3299 03:15:36,360 --> 03:15:37,110 the same. 3300 03:15:39,810 --> 03:15:46,800 Adam Curry: Like a like a potty vicious? Like a potty. Did you 3301 03:15:46,800 --> 03:15:47,580 have ISOs? 3302 03:15:48,990 --> 03:15:51,060 John C Dvorak: Yeah, I have two ISOs as matter of fact. 3303 03:15:51,600 --> 03:15:52,680 Adam Curry: All right. Let's do 3304 03:15:54,330 --> 03:15:56,460 John C Dvorak: it. Let's start with disturbing. It's 3305 03:15:56,490 --> 03:16:02,460 disturbing. Okay, and the other one is when 3306 03:16:02,580 --> 03:16:06,600 Unknown: we win, they lose. Okay, 3307 03:16:07,020 --> 03:16:09,690 Adam Curry: let me see if I can beat any of that homeless 3308 03:16:09,690 --> 03:16:12,810 second. What do I have? Oh, goodness, I got a lot. Why don't 3309 03:16:12,810 --> 03:16:13,530 have so many. 3310 03:16:15,090 --> 03:16:18,060 Unknown: Stop clutching your pearls. Okay. 3311 03:16:19,890 --> 03:16:25,500 Adam Curry: We are so rude beyond all belief. digest all of 3312 03:16:25,500 --> 03:16:29,940 this. And believe me, it's a lot to digest. That's too long. I 3313 03:16:29,940 --> 03:16:30,600 like this one. 3314 03:16:30,630 --> 03:16:32,370 Unknown: That's a wonderful way to say thank you. 3315 03:16:33,600 --> 03:16:36,360 Adam Curry: Yeah. And then the final one. Answer 3316 03:16:36,360 --> 03:16:37,200 Unknown: the question go. 3317 03:16:39,900 --> 03:16:41,430 Adam Curry: What do you like? Well, 3318 03:16:41,430 --> 03:16:45,480 John C Dvorak: that was kind of blurry. Question go. Yeah, 3319 03:16:45,630 --> 03:16:46,620 Adam Curry: this one you'd like that's 3320 03:16:46,620 --> 03:16:49,740 Unknown: a wonderful way to say thank you. Okay, we 3321 03:16:49,740 --> 03:16:50,610 John C Dvorak: can go with that. I 3322 03:16:50,610 --> 03:16:54,720 Adam Curry: think that's kind of cool. I like that one too. Boy, 3323 03:16:54,720 --> 03:16:57,480 did we get to everything? I don't we didn't get to 3324 03:16:57,480 --> 03:16:57,990 everything. 3325 03:16:58,020 --> 03:17:01,500 John C Dvorak: Probably not No, no, I had to we got to Biden 3326 03:17:01,500 --> 03:17:05,700 versus the banana. We can no scrub. I got the I got this is 3327 03:17:05,700 --> 03:17:09,630 kind of interesting. ESG investments suck. 3328 03:17:10,740 --> 03:17:13,770 Adam Curry: I'll listen to that the goal of ESG is not better 3329 03:17:13,770 --> 03:17:18,780 financial performance. It is to force compliance to one view the 3330 03:17:18,780 --> 03:17:20,790 Unknown: House Ways and Means Committee on Tuesday 3331 03:17:20,790 --> 03:17:24,780 investigating retirement plans being invested into ESG funds. 3332 03:17:24,960 --> 03:17:28,560 ESG stands for environmental, social and governance. In the 3333 03:17:28,560 --> 03:17:32,130 past, pension managers had to aim for maximum profit over 3334 03:17:32,130 --> 03:17:36,030 everything else. However, in 2022, the Biden administration 3335 03:17:36,030 --> 03:17:39,480 changed the rules, saying they may consider climate change and 3336 03:17:39,480 --> 03:17:42,510 other environmental, social and governance factors in selecting 3337 03:17:42,510 --> 03:17:46,170 retirement investments. Numbers now show such investments do 3338 03:17:46,170 --> 03:17:47,460 bring less returns, 3339 03:17:47,580 --> 03:17:50,010 they could have had 11 and a half percent return but they've 3340 03:17:50,010 --> 03:17:53,160 only had a four and a half percent. Oh, really, that's not 3341 03:17:53,160 --> 03:17:54,600 keeping pace with inflation. 3342 03:17:54,690 --> 03:17:58,170 This witness Jason iSeq, former Texas state representative and 3343 03:17:58,170 --> 03:18:01,740 director of life powered, says such investments do more damage 3344 03:18:01,740 --> 03:18:04,050 besides hurting returns, but 3345 03:18:04,080 --> 03:18:06,000 Adam Curry: it's still the hottest year on record. So 3346 03:18:06,000 --> 03:18:09,300 whatever you say, we got to keep pouring money into all this 3347 03:18:09,300 --> 03:18:13,350 stuff. Because it's good. It's good. Even if you lose money. 3348 03:18:13,650 --> 03:18:16,170 Even if you lose money, it's good. You're doing it for the 3349 03:18:16,170 --> 03:18:21,270 world companies investment people's good. Emmys. Was there 3350 03:18:21,270 --> 03:18:25,080 more to this? There's nothing more Yeah, okay. Well, you know 3351 03:18:25,080 --> 03:18:29,610 what? We're way over. But it's because we love everybody. 3352 03:18:29,640 --> 03:18:35,940 That's why just because we love everybody. We love you. And we 3353 03:18:35,940 --> 03:18:41,310 also love hogs story. We got them coming up next on no agenda 3354 03:18:41,310 --> 03:18:45,120 stream. And we got some end of show mixes, which as you heard 3355 03:18:45,120 --> 03:18:48,240 earlier, you should always listen to them after the sign 3356 03:18:48,240 --> 03:18:53,490 off music. Yes. You miss out on stuff if you just leave. You 3357 03:18:53,490 --> 03:19:00,210 know, it's so sad when people do that. We've got pyramid King 3358 03:19:00,210 --> 03:19:06,780 Reuben, Sir Chris Wilson. And Secret Agent Paul. Paul in the 3359 03:19:06,780 --> 03:19:11,520 end of show makes us and of course we will return on Sunday 3360 03:19:11,520 --> 03:19:14,820 with another deconstruction of what's going on in the media of 3361 03:19:14,820 --> 03:19:18,420 what's happening in your world with our usual humorous banter. 3362 03:19:19,320 --> 03:19:21,870 Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill, country and 3363 03:19:21,870 --> 03:19:24,930 female region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam 3364 03:19:24,930 --> 03:19:25,710 curry and 3365 03:19:25,710 --> 03:19:29,250 John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain I 3366 03:19:29,250 --> 03:19:32,160 guess it's gonna start raining next week, so you have another 3367 03:19:32,160 --> 03:19:36,810 wet winter. By the way, we had the coldest summer ever for you. 3368 03:19:36,930 --> 03:19:39,060 Climate changers. I'm John Seymour and 3369 03:19:39,060 --> 03:19:43,980 Adam Curry: it's raining and cold here in Texas. Remember us 3370 03:19:43,980 --> 03:19:48,870 at the vortech.org/na Until next time, adios mofos who he who he 3371 03:19:48,870 --> 03:19:49,560 answered 3372 03:19:52,200 --> 03:19:53,430 Unknown: someone's pressing buttons 3373 03:19:55,710 --> 03:19:56,640 What am I have sound 3374 03:19:59,460 --> 03:20:05,640 who's gotta Hammer where is it? Where's the hammer? Is it on the 3375 03:20:05,700 --> 03:20:06,930 go one from the other floor 3376 03:20:09,300 --> 03:20:14,160 I'll go down to the goddamn for myself call fucking silver 3377 03:20:14,160 --> 03:20:18,510 tsunami care who the fuck you have to stop the hammering 3378 03:20:30,480 --> 03:20:43,260 you are online something is watching and if 3379 03:20:47,640 --> 03:20:48,750 you're watching 3380 03:20:51,120 --> 03:20:55,590 watching trees 3381 03:21:20,040 --> 03:21:21,900 it gives us here you 3382 03:21:50,400 --> 03:21:53,610 Adam Curry: quote the behavioral addiction of smartphone use 3383 03:21:53,610 --> 03:21:57,150 begins forming neurological connections in the brain and 3384 03:21:57,150 --> 03:21:59,910 they've they've come up with their own name and they call it 3385 03:22:00,000 --> 03:22:01,350 phone Linus 3386 03:22:07,680 --> 03:22:10,920 Unknown: net stupid go 3387 03:22:21,120 --> 03:22:26,040 phone Linus instead of Lowe's instead of loneliness they 3388 03:22:26,040 --> 03:22:29,550 Adam Curry: call it phone leanness phone leanness Yes. 3389 03:22:33,450 --> 03:22:38,490 Unknown: Slava tone Molinos has just got 3390 03:22:43,650 --> 03:22:43,950 back 3391 03:22:54,390 --> 03:22:55,320 No, please 3392 03:23:03,090 --> 03:23:07,140 mobo borg.org/n A. 3393 03:23:08,190 --> 03:23:09,870 That's a wonderful way to say thank you